/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/09/06/#kubuntu.txt

BlankBedulix: how about doing: apt-cache policy  packagename12:05
=== tango_ [n=nome@adsl-ull-115-119.44-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu
edulixBlankB: already tried that, and also apt-cache showpkg kiax, none of those show the rep12:06
BlankBkiax is not in any repository that I am using.12:07
BlankBwhen you do: apt-cache show kiax     does it return anything at all?12:08
edulixBlank: sure12:12
edulixBlankB: Package, Status, Priority, etc12:12
edulixas usual12:12
BlankBsend me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list to here: http://blankb.pastebin.com/12:13
=== jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216126.hartford.edu] has joined #kubuntu
=== _root [n=root@12-202-67-224.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _root is now known as ShdwShinobi
=== thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic
ShdwShinobiWould someone be able to help me with a problem on my display size? i can't remember what to change in the xorg.conf12:14
edulixBlankB: http://blankb.pastebin.com/35141812:15
ShdwShinobiand, i can't get a size higher then 640x480 (even from the configure menu)12:15
=== Sho_ [i=EHS1@konversation/developer/hein] has left #kubuntu []
BlankBedulix: Using your sources.list I dont see kiax when I do apt-get search kiax12:17
=== dmk [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
edulixoh my, that's strange12:18
BlankBdid you install kiax outside of apt-get? like using dpkg?12:20
edulixi downloaded also the package from sourceforge, but obviosly it's not installed12:20
edulixBTW, is it dangerous to use --auto-deconfigure dpkg option?12:20
=== redguy [n=mati@aij220.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
edulixBlankerB: now after doing a apt-get -f install kiax is not in apt so that was it12:22
BlankBdunno about that.12:22
edulixanyway, i'll mail the package owner12:23
ShdwShinobiBlankB, would you be able to help me with my problem?12:23
BlankBjust ask a question if someone here thinks they can help they will respond.12:24
=== claydoh_ [n=claydoh@65.99.186.13] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobiMy montior is stuck at 640x480. I know i have to change something in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but i do not know what it is. Does anyone have any idea on what i have to change?12:26
jrattner1when i type lspci -v my sound card is listed with a weird property that saysCapabilities: <available only to root> how do i change it to all users?12:26
BlankBshdwshinobi: im not sure how to do that. Im not that good with X config stuff.12:27
seth_kShdwShinobi, you need to add the VertRefresh and HorizSync lines12:28
seth_kShdwShinobi, what is the model of your monitor?12:28
ShdwShinobiDELL E772c12:29
seth_kokay, one moment :)12:29
=== Bags [n=emihatov@203.171.95.102] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobi:)12:30
seth_kokay, ShdwShinobi12:30
seth_krun in terminal:12:30
seth_kkdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:30
seth_k(just copy and paste)12:30
ShdwShinobikk12:30
ShdwShinobiit's open12:30
Blissexjrattner1: nothing that is returned by 'lspci' matters as to Linux user permissions.12:30
jrattner1Blissex, then why does it say that12:30
seth_kokay, ShdwShinobi, find the "Monitor" section and add these lines12:30
seth_kHorizSync 30-7012:31
=== Bags [n=emihatov@203.171.95.102] has joined #kubuntu
seth_kVertRefresh 50-16012:31
seth_ksave and restart X, and you should have resolution options :)12:31
ShdwShinobiok12:31
ShdwShinobi:)12:31
ShdwShinobithanks12:31
seth_knp12:31
=== Bags [n=emihatov@203.171.95.102] has joined #kubuntu
jrattner1Blissex, ?12:32
edulixi need to no, bye!12:33
=== _root [n=root@12-202-67-224.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _root is now known as ShdwShinobi
Blissexjrattner1: because you are not running 'lspci' as 'root', so the _display_ of information is limited.12:34
ShdwShinobito get a higher resolution, i just add the mode in the default screen, right?12:34
seth_kShdwShinobi, you'll need to add it to each color depth for best results12:34
seth_kbut yes12:34
jrattner1Blissex, ohh12:34
ShdwShinobiok. and if it's not too much bother. I have a nVidia geforce card, and i would like to be able to use that to use dual screen. would you know how to set it up? (sorry, but i'm just switching to Kubuntu from XP... after being fed up with it)12:36
seth_kummm12:36
seth_kyou'll need Xinerama12:36
seth_kbut I've never used it12:36
seth_ktry #ubuntu, that's not a KDE question so you may get better general help in there :)12:36
seth_kI gotta run to class now anyways12:37
ShdwShinobiok :) thanks12:37
seth_kcheers :) hope you get it working12:37
=== seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has left #kubuntu []
=== esher is now known as esher`chaosradio
BlissexShdwShinobi: look at the sample configs in http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ if you are comfortable with writing config files by hand12:38
=== esher`chaosradio is now known as esher
BlissexShdwShinobi: otherwise just rerun the X  configuration generator, it should support generating dual screen setups.12:39
ShdwShinobiok. i'm comfortable editing it by hand... i just use backups :)12:39
ShdwShinobialthough it's been a while since using linux.. and i forgot how to backup files easily12:40
=== edulix [n=edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== edulix is back
=== Pete051 [n=pete051@user-2655.lns4-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
Pete051hi peeps12:41
ShdwShinobiBlissex: the link timed out12:42
BlankBshdwshinobi: have a look at http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewforum.php?f=2 if you are using a matrix.12:42
BlankBmatrix=matrox.12:42
=== edsuom [n=edsuom@207-118-81-111.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
BlissexShdwShinobi: http://zen.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ might work, try that12:44
=== samdfo0l [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-31-172.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== samdfo0l [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-31-172.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Good]
=== Pete051 [n=pete051@user-2655.lns4-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Only]
=== cfaun [n=cfaun@pool-71-245-196-30.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aitor [n=aitor@84-122-70-73.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobiBlissex: it didn't work...12:49
=== aitor is now known as gaspode_hispano
ShdwShinobii think i have a start though... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:49
=== cocozz [n=cocozz@194.158.95.15] has joined #kubuntu
=== cocozz [n=cocozz@194.158.95.15] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== _root [n=root@12-202-67-224.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _root is now known as ShdwShinobi
edulixwohoo12:58
edulixnow i have kiax!12:58
edulixcompiled from sources12:58
=== _poldi [n=poldi@e176130185.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216126.hartford.edu] has joined #kubuntu
=== fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-169-87-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== BlankB [n=blank@adsl-68-93-6-78.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== _steve [n=steve@dsl-217-155-223-81.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== AnHu [n=anton@mnch-d9ba46c6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Chambers` [n=Thom@64.108.190.120] has joined #kubuntu
=== cfaun [n=cfaun@pool-71-245-196-30.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
=== aseigo [n=aseigo@kde/aseigo] has joined #kubuntu
=== Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu
=== uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
DewDudewhere can i add repositories in Kynaptic02:12
DewDudemost of the things iv'e seen are synaptic specific02:12
=== setite [n=setite@ip68-108-160-103.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
setitewhats the repo line for kubuntu02:15
crimsunsee the topic02:16
=== utta [n=brandon@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobiwho knows how to access Synaptic Package Manager? I can't find System>Administration02:23
DewDudedid you install it?02:24
DewDudeit didn't come preloaded with kubuntu02:24
ShdwShinobiah.. the guide never said that you had to do that... thanks :) i can get it now02:24
DewDudekynaptic did02:24
DewDudewell02:24
DewDudeubuntu came with it02:24
DewDudekubuntu came with kynaptic02:24
ShdwShinobiwierd... i did: apt-get install synaptic   it install it and everything, but there's always an error with unpackaging (for anything i do with apt-get) that it doesn't 02:27
=== dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-164.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #kubuntu
=== fromoze [n=fromoze@81.172.95.222] has joined #kubuntu
=== _manuel [n=manuel@213.231.68.70] has joined #kubuntu
=== ORiON [n=orion@cpe-70-117-2-253.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== cfaun [n=cfaun@pool-71-245-196-30.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== bellecose [n=bellecos@ppp-72-140.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobican someone help me manually install Synaptic Package Manager?03:02
=== Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu
=== The_Vox [n=vox@201.130.66.7] has joined #kubuntu
=== ShdwShinobi [n=shdwshin@12-202-67-224.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu
ShdwShinobihow do you configure kubuntu with a nvidia graphics card? it won't seem to recognize it.03:18
=== Maneit [n=magnus@bl120a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #kubuntu
=== youssef [n=youssef@def92-1-81-57-132-100.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dudikoph [n=[gales] @183-68-31.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #Kubuntu
=== pentax [n=pentax@216-155-71-232.bk1-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu [n=ubuntu@pcp0011990245pcs.tupelo01.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu is now known as gdawg
=== gdawg [n=ubuntu@pcp0011990245pcs.tupelo01.ms.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== kalenedrael [n=ubuntu@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
kalenedraelhello03:29
kalenedraeli'm on the kubuntu livecd right now... looking for a way to disable the swap partition03:30
kalenedraeli need to repartition the drive and it can't seem to be able to, because the swap partition is in use03:30
kalenedraelthis is pissing me off03:35
=== dudikoph [n=[gales] @183-68-31.ip.adsl.hu] has left #Kubuntu ["bye"]
=== murtaugh [n=murtaugh@mail.selectimpressions.com] has joined #kubuntu
murtaughwhere can i find a list of the debs I need to install in order to compile kde/qt software?03:39
murtaughI remember that I need a bunch of dev packages (qt and kde) but I remember there being a few others03:40
kalenedraeli suspect that all you need to compile software for qt and kde are the qt and kde dev packages...03:42
kalenedraelyou also need standard headers03:43
kalenedraeland a compiler :P03:43
murtaughalright thanks, I'm going through and googling the compile errors... I'll get em'!03:43
kalenedraelwell, what errors?03:44
kalenedraelif it says something like 'foo/foo.h not found' then you probably need foo-dev or libfoo-dev03:44
murtaughits just complaining qt headers arn't installed, etc... I think I've got it :)03:44
kalenedraelok03:45
murtaughis KDE 3.5 sept or october?03:45
kalenedraeldunno03:45
murtaughI wanted to switch to gnome because I like the interface better but I switched back because I missed konqueror and kate03:46
murtaughand they look crappy in a gtk environment :)03:46
kalenedraelwow, i am an idiot03:47
kalenedraelthat was easier than it should have been03:47
murtaugh?03:47
=== Maneit [n=magnus@bl120a.studby.ntnu.no] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
kalenedraeli was trying to disable swap03:47
kalenedraeli'm on the kubuntu livecd03:47
murtaughah03:48
kalenedraelthe command would be 'sudo swapoff -a'...03:48
kalenedraeli typed that and apparently it stopped using swap, causing me to go 'wtf?' at how simple it was03:48
murtaughyep, I only now that because of my brief gentoo experience03:48
murtaughdo you know if there are debs for amarok 1.3? or is that source only03:50
kalenedraelthere are debs, i think03:51
kalenedraeli don't know what the latest version is03:51
murtaughso are you moving your kubuntu live CD image to your harddrive?03:51
kalenedraelno, i already have kubuntu installed03:52
kalenedraeli'm mucking around with the partitions03:52
murtaughoh ok03:52
murtaughI installed osX using pearpc last night... took 5 hours for the osX install process to finish...but it works... pretty cool but slow03:54
=== EasterSunshine [n=EasterSu@pool-141-155-9-16.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== [EasterSunshine] [n=EasterSu@pool-141-155-9-16.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== [EasterSunshine] is now known as EasterSunshine
=== setite [n=setite@48.sub-70-219-188.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== `Nomad [n=Bob@stjhnbsu67w-142167000112.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.250] has joined #kubuntu
=== _setite [n=setite@145.sub-70-209-229.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
_setitewhat file loads modules automatically so i dont have to type modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1416 product=0x1110 whenever i start04:09
_setiteand also for mknod04:09
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu
`Nomad Hi all, I am running Firefox 1.0.3 on Kubuntu and my search box is gone weird.  I can't select which search engines I want to use in it.. Any ideas?04:13
hussam`Nomad: does it keeps defaulting to google?04:14
`NomadHussam: It has no other option, no icon showing on the left of th ebox, and no way to add others, like dictionary.com04:16
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.13] has joined #kubuntu
hussam`Nomad: you need to run firefox as root to add additional search engines04:17
`Nomadahh?04:17
`Nomadok, will try04:17
`Nomadhussam: sudo mozilla-firefox   ?04:21
`NomadGtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:21
hussam`Nomad: probably sudo firefox04:23
`Nomadit,s a matter of permission on the display..04:24
`Nomadroot can't open a window04:24
hussamok I see04:25
hussamI usually use gksu to run stuff as root04:26
hussambecause kdesu will use sudo and not su04:26
=== Wimpie [n=u19809@cable-62-205-105-206.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu
`NomadIt's my theme.. :(04:26
`NomadI just switched to the default theme and it's back04:26
`Nomadso something went wrong with my Noia theme04:26
=== _setite [n=setite@118.sub-70-219-244.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
Wimpieneed to recover my disk partition.  isn't there an external command  on the install CD that I can call ?04:26
`Nomadthanks for your help :)04:26
_setitewoot worked04:26
hussam`Nomad: doesn't kubuntu have firefox 1.0.6 ?04:27
`Nomadnot mine :(04:27
`NomadI'm sorry, you're right04:27
`Nomad1.0.604:27
`Nomadam too tired :)04:27
hussamoh ok04:27
=== lascar [n=aj@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
`Nomadwow.  Different skins are fine, just Noia Extreme.. Solved :)04:30
`NomadNow I have my list back, but I have 2 Googles.  One with no icons.. There must just be a file somewhere where I can take out the extra?04:31
hussam`Nomad: check in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/searchplugins/04:32
=== DewDude [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== DewDude [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== DewDude [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nickmch [n=nic@49.239.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== BlankB [n=blank@adsl-68-93-6-78.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
`Nomadhussam: Thanks a lot04:48
`Nomad:)04:48
=== gdiebel [n=gdiebel@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
lascarmy printer was working fine last week when I set it up, but whenever I send it a job, the spool server eternally processes04:59
lascarcan anyone help?05:02
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.13] has joined #kubuntu
`Nomadhussam:  There are also plugins within our local folders ( /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/c653jh7623.72653/search)  and that is where I had a google.src without a matching google.png  :)05:09
`Nomadproblems all solved, goodnight05:09
hussam`Nomad: cool :)05:09
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
=== TimM [n=nobody@b-6c.lcom.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
=== JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Crazy_Man [n=spencerc@c-24-1-138-143.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Elsidox [n=Elsidox@CPE-70-94-4-87.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
Elsidoxcan someone tell me what package I need to get the mediaplayer in apollon to work?05:36
fatejudgerapollon?05:36
Elsidoxapollon is a p2p program05:38
Elsidoxa very nice one05:38
Elsidox=)05:38
lascaris it available as a package?05:42
Elsidoxlascar: yes05:43
lascarwhere is it contained?  Universe?  Multiverse?05:43
Elsidoxlascar: im not sure05:44
Elsidoxone sec i can check05:44
lascarcool05:44
=== setite [n=setite@12.sub-70-219-141.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
Elsidoxlascar: I think universe05:44
fatejudgerp2p program?05:45
fatejudgerlike Kazaa?05:45
fatejudgerI prefer torrents myself05:45
Elsidoxsimilar05:45
setitecan anyone help me.. whats this mean.. i used sudo05:45
setiteFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:45
fatejudgerKtorrent is awesome05:45
Elsidoxfatejudger: agreed05:45
Elsidoxfatejudger: But i use apollon for downloading singel songs05:45
fatejudgerah05:46
fatejudgerI tend to only download music from artists that are able to put out a good cd05:46
fatejudgerwith mostly all good songs05:46
=== Crazy_Man [n=spencerc@c-24-1-138-143.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
fatejudgerit's very rare that I need to download a single song05:46
fatejudgerand if I do05:46
fatejudgerI just use my windows box05:46
lascarfatejudger: that's entirely subjectve05:46
fatejudgerMIRC + Autoget05:46
lascar*subjective05:46
fatejudgeryeah05:46
=== Elsidox misses windows sometimes
fatejudgerI wish there was autoget for linux05:46
fatejudgerI have a dualboot on here05:47
fatejudgerwindows and linux05:47
fatejudgerbut linux is my default05:47
Elsidoxwhats autoget?05:47
lascarwhat partition tool did you use?05:47
fatejudgerI used the default partitioner for Kubuntu05:47
fatejudgerautoget is a plugin for mirc05:47
fatejudgeror a script05:47
fatejudgerand basically it goes on the main mp3 channels05:47
fatejudgerand searches for song05:47
fatejudger*songs05:47
Elsidoxawesome05:47
fatejudgeryea it is05:47
Elsidoxi really like mirc05:47
fatejudgermirc is good05:47
fatejudgerexcept it isn't free05:48
lascarfatejudger: qtparted?05:48
fatejudgerqtparted?05:48
lascarthere are so many keys for mirc05:48
Elsidoxim using konversation atm its pretty good05:48
fatejudgeryeah, I use konversation05:48
fatejudgerbut there isn't an irc client for linux made for downloading things05:48
fatejudgerat least that I know of05:48
lascarI still can't get apollon05:49
Elsidoxdo either of you know how to remove the sastus of a contact from the tabs in kopete? The tabs are hugh. I dont understand why they add the contacts satus in the tab.05:49
lascarhelp?  anyone?05:49
=== TimM [n=nobody@b-6c.lcom.net] has left #kubuntu []
Elsidoxlascar: http://apollon.sourceforge.net/files.html05:49
lascarah!  it's in unstable05:50
lascarbrb05:50
setiteanyone know why im getting the ndiswrapper error?05:50
=== ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== shimmei [n=miss@218.111.192.85] has joined #kubuntu
shimmeihai05:55
=== Speedy2 [n=John@cpe-70-93-199-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
lascarElsidox: crap, it's still not working!05:57
shimmeiHAI05:57
shimmeiYAP05:57
pussfellermirc runs pretty good under wine05:58
pussfellerdk about the fserve specific commands tho05:58
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu
Speedy2Can I update KDE 3.4.1 to 3.4.2 via synaptic (while in KDE) ?06:00
lascarprobably, though i don't recommend it06:01
fatejudgerwhy not?06:02
fatejudgerit works great06:02
fatejudgerI upgraded to KDE 3.4.2 from 3.4.0 that way06:02
fatejudgerand I had no problems06:02
lascaryou mean downgraded06:02
lascar?06:02
fatejudgerno06:02
fatejudgerI upgraded06:02
fatejudgerre-read what I said06:03
fatejudgerto 3.4.206:03
fatejudgerfrom 3.4.006:03
lascarX and everything?06:03
fatejudgeryeah06:03
fatejudgerthe whole thing06:03
fatejudgerlinux is made to do that06:03
fatejudgerbesides06:03
fatejudgerkde is run in memory by that time06:03
Speedy2fatejudger: THanks.06:03
fatejudgeryeah, no problem06:03
lascari probably still have Windows angst06:03
fatejudgeryeah06:03
lascarjust feel safer with Shell i guess06:03
fatejudgershell has more control obviously06:03
fatejudgerbut Kubuntu was made to be all GUI06:04
fatejudgerif someone wanted it that way06:04
=== Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu
fatejudgerI like a combination of both myself06:04
fatejudgerI compile some things06:04
lascarall GUI's not a bad idea06:04
fatejudgerbut mostly I use packages06:04
fatejudgeryou could do all GUI06:04
lascarand binaries is a toss-up for me06:04
fatejudgerKubuntu was made to be usable, fast, and easy06:05
lascarwhich reminds me:06:05
lascarhas anyone gotten Azureus to work?06:05
fatejudgerI used Azureus06:05
fatejudgerbut don't06:05
fatejudgerI switched06:05
lascarfatejudger: how'd you do it?06:05
fatejudgerapt get ktorrent06:05
fatejudgeror synaptic06:06
fatejudgerwhichever way you like to do it06:06
lascari still can't get it06:06
Speedy2Is there a way to get synaptic to show "critical" updates (or what it deems critical updates) ?06:06
fatejudgerktorrent is great though06:06
fatejudgerwell06:06
fatejudgeryou can tell it to run a "smart" upgrade06:06
fatejudgerthen go into apply06:06
fatejudgerand read the list of packages06:06
fatejudgeryou can always go to edit -> undo06:06
fatejudgerif you don't like the packages it has picked out06:06
=== Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu
Speedy2Thanks06:08
Speedy2Let's see if it worked06:08
lascarok, for those who were able to run ktorrent/apollon: can I see your sources.list?06:08
lascarjust post it in pastebin06:09
=== Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu
lascaror can someone give me a deb site that supports the unstable repository06:12
lascari'm begging now06:12
=== Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Speedy2 [n=John@cpe-70-93-199-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
Speedy2Anyone else have KControl disappear of the menu in updating to KDE 3.4.2 ?06:13
lascaryep!06:13
lascarjust create a shortcut06:14
Speedy2lascar: Yeah, did it.06:14
fatejudgeryeah06:16
=== seth_k [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-214-252.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #kubuntu
fatejudgerthat's what happens when you upgrade06:16
fatejudgerI thought I had accidentally deleted it at first06:16
fatejudgerI don't know why they took it out06:17
=== Elsidox [n=Elsidox@CPE-70-94-4-87.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
=== Name1 [n=marius@ti541210a080-7285.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu
=== JunkScience [n=Huh@adsl-70-224-49-135.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== JunkScience [n=Huh@adsl-70-224-49-135.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Who]
lascarnice, installing ktorrent06:24
lascarfound a webpage for instructions06:24
fatejudgerthere is a repository for it06:26
lascarindeed06:28
lascarhad to manually add it06:28
=== huerlisi [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
lascarand now i've got apollon06:32
lascarbbl06:32
=== lascar [n=aj@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu
=== P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.20.2] has joined #kubuntu
=== abhayks [n=abhayks@59.145.136.1] has joined #kubuntu
=== root1 [n=root1@0x503e5645.arcnxe1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
=== huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@82.136.69.117] has joined #kubuntu
=== _emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu
=== dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-137-151.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-210.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Loufier [n=Loufier@203-59-113-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
Loufieris there any decent drivers for ati cards out?..07:56
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-210.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
KuolioLoufier: decent in what way?07:57
Kuolioyou mean if they work, then yes07:58
Kuolioatleast my mobile x700 is working like a charm, and i can play games like UT2k4 with maxed details07:59
Kuoliotheres how-to about ati-drivers in the ubuntu wiki07:59
Loufiercuz ive heard the ati drivers made for linux r shit...07:59
Loufierive got two cards one is a radeon 9800 pro, and the other is a nvida 5600 fx, the nvida one i had first n i hated it soo i got an ati.08:00
Kuoliohmm, i haven't had any problems with them, but then again installing ati-drivers with ubuntu is quite easy08:01
Kuolioyou just need to apt-get some packages, make few edits on Xorg.conf and you are set to go08:01
Loufieri mean in temrs of gammin :P08:02
Loufieri want too use cedega08:02
Kuoliooh.. well, that i dont know much about08:02
Kuolioi only run native linux games08:02
Loufierhmmn owell may aswell try kubuntu with it, this system is about dead neway ^^08:03
Kuoliotry asking in cedega's irc-channel or search for their forums?08:03
Loufierive onli read bug reports too do with ati cards .... kinda dodgey cuz somehow i perfer the ati cards compared too the nvidia..08:04
=== emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu
=== DewDude [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Chambers_ [n=Thom@64.108.190.120] has joined #kubuntu
=== PurpleMotion thinks Loufier spoke some words of wisdom in that quit message
=== PurpleMotion nudges nikkia
PurpleMotionlinux needs a better emulator scene08:27
jehemulators for what?08:31
PurpleMotionnes, snes, gb, gba, gbc, sms, 32x, sega-cd, neo-geo, etc etc etc blah blah blah08:31
pussfellertheres some n-64 games i would love to play on a computer08:35
PurpleMotionzophar.net08:36
pussfellerbut i never heard or that08:36
PurpleMotionclick on linux on the right08:36
PurpleMotionemulators for everything youc an imagine08:36
jehthe only one i'd care for is the only one you didn't mention: c6408:45
jehlinux needs boulder dash08:46
jehbtw, can the kubuntu installer or some app configure the system to use NIS?08:46
jehwe run nis/nfs/dhcp at home and it would be nice if all that "just worked"08:47
PurpleMotionthere's a c64 emu08:53
PurpleMotionzophar.net08:53
PurpleMotionclick unix/linux on the right08:54
=== shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-16-118.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== samdfo0l [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-31-172.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
samdfo0lsaluzatous09:01
fatejudger?09:02
samdfo0lsorry ... it's an english chan isn't it !? :$09:04
samdfo0lI said hi everybody !09:04
samdfo0lso I let you sleep... have a good day !09:06
=== samdfo0l [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-31-172.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Good]
nikkiaPurpleMotion: linux has some of the best emulators around09:06
nikkiaPurpleMotion: there is one notable exception - the playstation emulators generally suck :)09:07
nikkia(mostly, tho, the *plugins* suck on linux, compared to the windows plugins)09:07
=== dionysus [n=dionysus@220-245-18-40.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== troglodyt [n=user@204.101.205.72] has joined #kubuntu
=== edulix [n=edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== m-fox [n=mpasdzie@router.isea.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #kubuntu
=== Loufier [n=Loufier@203-59-113-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
Loufierif u have 2 drives witch r raided taht equal up to 240 gig  wuld it be best too partition it one for windows and one for kubuntu, or have onli one.. and if partitioned how big should both sided be =/, if the onli thing ur going use the windows partition for is games u cant run on the linux side 09:20
=== tango_ [n=nome@adsl-ull-115-119.44-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== wincide [n=trax@224.Red-81-34-220.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== samdf0ol [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-13-166.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
jeha shared raid for linux and windows?09:28
=== grimse [n=grimse@p5481EFF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
Loufieryea a shared raid ^_^09:34
=== mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
Loufierim wondering if its a good idea or not09:34
=== mindspin is now known as _mindspin
=== Loufier is happily burning all his stuff of his comp
=== _mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-16-118.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu []
=== _synd [n=synd@h255.43.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _synd is now known as synd_
=== synd_ [n=synd@h255.43.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== Guest_893 [n=Guest_89@user-7377.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
jehi wouldn't make a shared raid09:57
jehnot sure it can be done at all09:57
jehthe onboard bios raid stuff can't always be used under linux09:58
=== ORiON [n=orion@cpe-70-117-2-253.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== vegiVamp [n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== `TUX` [n=princosc@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== samdf0ol [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-13-166.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Good]
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu []
=== JensK [n=JensK@p54906623.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Speedy2 [n=John@cpe-70-93-199-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
Speedy2Hey all.10:38
Speedy2Has anyone gotten the error: "Remote Files Not Accepted" from k3b?10:38
_mindspindoes anyone here know about open office issues?10:40
_mindspindoes anybody know how to make a samba share visible in the "Load file" dialog?10:41
_mindspinin open office??10:41
=== dudikoph [n=[gales] @183-68-158.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #Kubuntu
=== bentox [n=harald@ip-213-49-120-159.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnumdk [n=gnumdk@195.221.59.29] has joined #kubuntu
bentoxHi . I'm new in the linux world. I'm installing Kubuntu. I've got some issues with Matrox Dualhead cards; I've followed some tutos but it didn't help. Anyone to help me ?10:51
Speedy2bentox: I can try.  What's up?10:51
bentoxHi Speedy2 ; well, I'm trying to get my dualhead on. Actually, it work. I've got to screen , but both identicall. In my xconf file, There is only one screen existing. I've allready upadte, the linux-kernel and header, the Matrox driver. But , I'm a little confused on what to do now10:53
Speedy2bentox: Ah...sorry to say I haven't done a dual display in Linux yet.  The feature I think is called Cinerama?10:54
bentoxXinemara , yes10:54
bentoxThere is some information but I think I need some help to do it clean10:55
bentoxSpeedy2: Thanks any way. I continue my quest10:56
Speedy2bentox: Sorry I couldn't be of much help :(10:56
bentoxI need the dual screen and my wacom tavlet working for a project of comics strip on linux10:56
bentoxYou can see the first here http://perso.bentox.net/comics.php  done on winxp and photoshop. THe goal is to make it on linux and giimp. A challenge man !10:58
jeh_mindspin: mount the samba share using smbclient or similar10:59
Speedy2bentox: That's very nice looking! :)11:00
jehyeah, very nice!11:00
_mindspinthe share is mounted ansd accesible via konqueror, what I need is the share shown in open offices file open dialog11:00
jehalthough, what would "he grants the coffee machine" mean? greet?11:01
bentoxThanks, There is a lot to come11:01
bentoxBut first make Kubuntu working and my wacom11:01
=== Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp217-130.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu
Speedy2bentox: Understood.11:04
=== kris [n=kris@p54A6076C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
jehbentox: add an extra "e" to coffee :)11:05
jehi love the opera strip!11:05
=== kris [n=kris@p54A6076C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
bentoxYep It's noticed for days11:06
=== lotchi [n=lotchi@247.229-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== bentox [n=harald@ip-213-49-120-159.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== furic [n=Furic@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #Kubuntu
furicHeya11:38
furicHow do i back up my messages from kmail?11:38
furic~/Mail seems to only have messages from March, no other month, and is missing entire folders. :\11:38
=== Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has joined #Kubuntu
=== Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has left #Kubuntu ["Ieinu"]
=== ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hettar [n=hettar@ppp113-236.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.60.217.240] has joined #kubuntu
=== dudikoph [n=[gales] @183-68-158.ip.adsl.hu] has left #Kubuntu ["bye"]
jehfuric: maybe you use imap?11:45
furicI use pop11:45
=== samdf0ol [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-13-166.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== samdf0ol [n=dams@AToulouse-251-1-13-166.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Good]
furicAhh, screw it, forget the mail11:50
=== furic [n=Furic@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #Kubuntu []
=== ubuntu [n=ubuntu@dialup-56.166.220.203.acc01-neer-bal.comindico.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu
=== cdb [n=grimweb@c529c055b.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu
cdbkubuntu does not ask for rootpasswd during install -> how do I retreive it?12:08
cdbhi all BTW12:08
cdbnoone?12:10
hussamcdb: use sudo instead of su12:13
cdbI need it for Kpackage12:14
hussamcdb: so Kpackage is asking for root password?12:14
cdbjep, if you want to install something12:14
hussamcdb: I guess you can just run: kdesu kpackage 12:15
cdbgood idea12:15
cdbhussam: works! great idea12:17
=== ekimus [n=ekimus@ateist.htu.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu
ekimushi, anyone knows how to start kate and force it to a certain syntax highlighting?12:18
cdbkwrite does it standard12:20
ekimuswhat do you mean?12:20
cdbhighlighting with colors/I/B etc12:21
ekimusi know it does, but i want to tell the application to specifically highlight a special syntax from a script12:21
cdboh.. I'm sorry, can't help you there12:21
=== jc-denton [n=nils@80.254.173.61] has joined #kubuntu
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu
=== dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== MrPoke [n=athul@67.109.209.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #kubuntu
hettarcdb: you can also sudo passwd to set a password for root12:43
=== pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu
=== dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
cdbhettar: that is an even better idea, then I don't have to run console12:50
cdbthanks12:50
=== cdb [n=grimweb@c529c055b.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== colyte [i=colyte@crashmag.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-233-7-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== incubii [n=incubii@cor9-ppp3429.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== JensK [n=JensK@p54906C72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@132.Red-83-40-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== laser_tk [n=laser@a84-231-249-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== Somez [n=somez@dsl51B69317.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== JensK [n=JensK@p54906C72.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
Somezhi everyone!01:32
=== miobio [n=miobio@host238-44.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
aftertafhi01:33
SomezI have a desktop computer with internet connection and two ethernet cards, and I want to share the internet with my laptop, by connecting the two machines01:35
Somezcan someone help me with that?01:35
SomezI connected them with a cable, and they have the same mask, but they can't ping each other01:36
aftertafstraight or crossover cable?01:36
Somezstraight01:36
Somezpatch01:36
aftertafk01:36
Somezcrossover is essential?01:36
ekimusSomez: www.netfilter.org has a good howto on that01:36
Somezthank you, I check that!01:36
aftertafphew ekimus ;)01:36
ekimusSomez: not if the machines are not too old01:37
aftertafi always forget which cable is which...01:37
ekimusaftertaf: what? netfilter is _the_ source for this kind of stuff01:37
ekimus:)01:37
=== aftertaf right click, open in new tab :)
=== tango_ [n=nome@adsl-ull-115-119.44-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== JensK [n=JensK@p54906C72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Somez [n=somez@dsl51B69317.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu
=== setite [n=setite@61.sub-70-219-161.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Somez [n=somez@dsl51B69317.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== henk [n=henk@cp11902-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
henkcan kubuntu live cd read ntfs?02:03
fromozehenk: i think no... but not sure... may it can be read but didn't write02:04
Kamping_Kaiseryes it can henk02:04
=== Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-173-122.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
fromozebut just read, no?02:05
henkKamping_Kaiser do i need to run any tools for it to happen or is that enabled by default ?02:05
Kamping_Kaiserfromoze: yes, correct02:05
Kamping_Kaiserhenk: it might auto mount them, otherwise you have toby hand02:05
henkKamping_Kaiser great that'll save me some time moving my media to a differnt filesystem02:07
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, untill you try and save a playlist ;)02:08
Kamping_Kaiserbut live cd, so not an issue anyway02:08
=== Cem__ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-169-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
dell500anyone here know how to get the accented e for a resume02:19
dell500nm, peace02:22
fromoze:=02:22
aftertafalt 13002:22
aftertafor the 2 key on a french kb02:23
aftertafor copy paste this:     02:23
aftertaf:)02:23
aftertaf:p02:23
nikkiaaftertaf: there's also alt-gr ; e   on non-US keyboards, too02:27
=== aftertaf is in france wth french keyboard
fromozebut, can you do that: ?02:34
=== ubuntu [n=ubuntu@c529c65b0.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu
fromoze-no copypaste please :P-02:34
=== ralph1 [n=ralph1@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
aftertaffromoze:  nope02:36
aftertaf ? yep02:36
ralph1Does anyone know if a version 0.5.4 of KCheckGmail is avalible for horay. The current 0.5.0 is broken.02:36
fromozecool ?! 02:36
=== Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-169-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
aftertaffromoze:  colr02:39
fromozeco ... spanish layout is powerful!!! aftertaf 02:41
aftertafhehe02:41
aftertafthis is silly, stop it :)02:41
aftertafralph1:  really?02:41
fromozed'accord, mais j'ai gagn :P02:42
aftertaf suivre.... :)02:43
ralph1aftertaf: really. Gmail changed log in. This was fixed in either version 0.5.3a or version 0.5.4 do not remember which one. Anyway version 0.5.4 is current.02:44
=== Kerk [n=skata@ppp43-adsl-95.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu
aftertaf!info gmail02:45
aftertafno not! denied :)02:45
aftertafno bot02:45
Kerkhello peeps02:45
Kerki need some help with compiling source code02:46
ralph1!info KCheckGmail02:46
aftertafmail the maintainer... 02:46
ubotukcheckgmail: (KDE systray application to check GMail accounts), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.5.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 580 kB02:46
Kerkhmmm02:47
Kerk!info kvirc02:47
ubotukvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:2.1.3.1-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1385 kB, Installed size: 4204 kB02:47
=== Kerk [n=skata@ppp43-adsl-95.ath.forthnet.gr] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
aftertafralph1:  get the sources then... from df.net02:49
aftertafsf.net02:49
=== marculo [i=ciccio2@host203-69.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
ralph1aftertaf: thanks for the help was trying to avoid that as I have no devel packages in my hoary. Have been concentrating on getting it working and learning. Will add devel packages when breezy comes out.02:55
marculohi, i installed nvidia drivers using apt-get and step-by-step described on ubuntuguide. how to completely uninstall it?02:55
=== aftertaf respects and approves of the safeness of your path
aftertafmarculo:  run synaptic and remove 'em....02:56
marculok, let's try02:57
marculoi just uninstall all that starts with nvidia* ?02:59
=== Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@140.Red-83-33-157.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
aftertafyes, think so...03:04
aftertafit'll not break anything that way.03:04
=== ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
nikkiaoh dear03:11
=== Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@140.Red-83-33-157.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-005.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== theD3viL [n=geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== theD3viL [n=geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has left #kubuntu ["cya"]
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu
marculohow to exit X?03:32
m-foxK->Logout or Ctrl-Alt-Del03:35
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== MikaEL` [n=mikael@193.230.183.230] has joined #kubuntu
=== spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-135-189.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
spiralhi03:39
jjessehello spiral 03:39
=== gnumdk [n=gnumdk@pf-amon.crid-85.ac-nantes.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== `TUX` [n=princosc@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== axlfoley [n=axlfoley@p54A5A8B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== axlfoley [n=axlfoley@p54A5A8B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
nikkiahmmmm03:44
=== d3k [n=d3k@dialup84113-220.ip.PeterStar.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== d3k [n=d3k@dialup84113-220.ip.PeterStar.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== crimsun [n=crimsun@sh.nu] has joined #kubuntu
=== lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== r1n0x [n=r1n0x@81-202-71-158.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== r1n0x [n=r1n0x@81-202-71-158.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== golanz [n=golan@85.116.131.5] has joined #kubuntu
=== Sho_ [i=EHS1@konversation/developer/hein] has joined #kubuntu
Sho_What's the name of the kernel sources package?04:00
=== JensK [n=JensK@p549073D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
aftertaflinux-source-x-x-x04:02
aftertafor thereabouts....04:02
Sho_thanks04:02
aftertaf!info linux-k704:02
ubotulinux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB04:02
aftertaf!info linux-i68604:02
=== artur [n=artur@e176079209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
aftertaf:/04:02
=== artur [n=artur@e176079209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== wincide [n=trax@224.Red-81-34-220.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Kuolio] : kubuntu
Kuoliouuuuups :O04:04
=== elmago [n=elmago@p508DD9D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
Kuolioi meant to check what was on the topic, not to delete it04:05
elmagohi guys one question is the license from transgaming.net trustable?04:05
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu
lascarwhich package do i install to configure fonts in GTK applications?04:06
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:seaLne] : congrats to pef on membership | Kubuntu Official Help Channel | KDE 3.4.2 Packages are out: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl | Espaol #kubuntu-es | Deutsch #kubuntu-de | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | To prevent spam: /umode +CE
=== elmago [n=elmago@p508DD9D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
marculohmm04:09
marculoi did ctrl-alt-backspace04:10
marculoit switched me into dos-like mode04:10
marculothen i instaled nvidia drivers04:10
marculothat went succesfully, seems04:10
marculothen i "rebooted"04:10
marculobut it doesn't load the gui04:10
marculoit's still as dos-like mode04:10
marculohow to turn it back to gui mode?04:11
=== grimse [n=grimse@p5481C6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
lascarthe same thing happened to me!04:12
lascarverbatim04:12
lascari reinstalled because i didn't have too much time on my hands04:12
marculoare u sayign to me ?04:13
lascaryeah04:13
marculodoh04:13
=== aitor [n=aitor@84-122-70-73.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== aitor is now known as gaspode_hispano
marculoanybody know how to fix?04:14
=== `TUX` [n=princosc@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["Hello,]
=== lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== aitor [n=aitor@84-122-70-73.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== aitor is now known as gaspode_hispano
=== sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-210.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mikl [n=mikkel@82.192.168.151] has joined #Kubuntu
=== m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== sahin_w [n=sahin@gvarel4.hp.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== raquel [n=raquel@45.Red-83-42-161.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== d3k [n=d3k@dialup84114-91.ip.PeterStar.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dazjorz [n=dazjorz@82.171.248.210] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzheya04:52
dazjorzanyone knows a very light-weight FTP server ?04:53
dazjorzI've tried PureFTPD04:53
=== lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzit doesn't work ... the vhosts stuff04:53
Kamping_Kaiserproftp?04:59
dazjorzalready using that for another server05:01
=== arte [n=arte@AStrasbourg-251-1-20-58.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
lascarcould someone please tell me the command to upgrade kde?05:10
lascari think i've already done it, but i'm still getting a 3.4.0 printout05:10
=== jens [n=JensK@p54905FDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphoslascar: add the new repository, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:11
apokryphos!kde34205:11
ubotukde342 is, like, at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php05:11
lascari did that before adding the repo, and installation went through and all05:13
lascarbrb05:13
=== deacon [n=deacon@ny-amherst-C4-1-bg4c-2-125.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu
deaconGreetings all.  Does anyone here know how to change the "terminal" font that the X-server uses in KDE?05:15
lascar"Invalid operation dist" error05:15
lascarapokryphos: Invalid operation dist05:15
apokryphoslascar: you're not typing what I said05:16
lascarwhoops, forgot the hyphen05:16
lascar;)05:16
lascaret voila!05:16
lascarafter the install, a simple logout should do the trick right?05:17
frank23yeah05:20
=== FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu
=== Somez [n=somez@dsl51B69317.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== Somez [n=somez@dsl51B69317.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== Tm_T [n=travolta@85-156-4-245.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
=== miquel [n=miquel@101.Red-83-55-71.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
deaconDoes anyone here know how to stop the KDE window manager from using that ugly monospace 9 on EVERY button, titlebar, taskbar, text-box, EVERYTHING?05:24
Tm_Tdeacon: kcontrol ->05:25
Tm_Tyou can control fonts ;p05:25
deaconok, where is kcontrol?05:25
Tm_Tbtw I use monospace font as much as possible05:25
Tm_TK Control Centre05:25
unintendeddo you have 3.4.2?05:25
Tm_Tum?05:26
unintendedi asked deacon05:26
=== regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu
deaconyep.  I already tried that.  swapped all fonts to sans 12 point.  still getting monospace 9 on half the buttons and toolbars05:26
lascarapokryphos: Errors were encountered while processing:05:26
lascar /var/cache/apt/archives/libkiten1_4%3a3.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb05:26
lascar /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.2-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb05:26
lascarE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (105:26
lascarany ideas?05:26
apokryphoshm05:27
Tm_Tdeacon: you mean GTK apps have that "ugly" font?05:27
lascarthis was during the kdm unpacking/install05:27
deaconFro example.  I am currently using X-Chat IRC to talk to you right now.  the message box I am typing in is displaying in monospace 9, as are the names on the right hand side, and the bittuns on top.05:27
deaconerr, buttons05:28
lascar!kdm05:28
ubotuI don't know, lascar05:28
Tm_Tdeacon: yup, GTK05:28
=== Phantom^^ [n=john@82-71-19-153.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
deaconok, how to I fix that.05:28
apokryphoslascar: try doing sudo apt-get upgrade first05:28
deaconmonospace 9 is too small on this laptop mojnitor05:28
Tm_Tdeacon: 1) install qt-gtk engne or what it was05:29
Tm_T2) use Kcontrol to change fon05:29
Phantom^^hey, can anyone tell me how to install java for web browsers 05:29
deaconok, I'll try that05:29
apokryphos!java05:29
ubotu[java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:29
=== _somez [n=somez@dsl51B66290.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-12-162.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
Tm_T!gtk-qt05:29
ubotuInstall the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package to make your GTK apps more bearable in KDE. Apply settings in KControl, and restart GTK apps.05:29
Tm_T=)05:29
Tm_Tubotu: thank you05:30
ubotubitte, Tm_T05:30
lascarTm_T: thanx, i actually needed that too05:30
Tm_T=)05:30
Tm_Tnp05:30
=== puiut [n=puiut@dlp-01-174.ss.uiowa.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _somez [n=somez@dsl51B66290.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== dazjorz [n=dazjorz@82.171.248.210] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
lascarapokryphos: already done05:32
apokryphoslascar: and didn't help?05:32
deaconHmmm05:32
unintended!sources.list05:33
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, unintended05:33
deaconthat didn't help.  GTK programs such as Synaptic still show monospace 9 on all interface elements05:33
=== gnumdk_ [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-63-136.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
lascarapokryphos: no05:34
Phantom^^thanks for the help with the java now i can play yahoo chess :D05:34
apokryphoslascar: can you pastebin the full error output then?05:34
lascarsure05:35
lascargive me the url05:35
lascarbut before that05:35
lascarlet me reboot05:35
=== miquel [n=miquel@101.Red-83-55-71.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
deaconbrb05:36
=== miquel [n=miquel@101.Red-83-55-71.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== deacon is away: AFK right now, be back later.
=== chile [n=chile@85.136.103.225] has joined #kubuntu
=== KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu
=== kinfo [n=kinfo@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
=== uniq_ [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
=== lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== glDaher [n=daher@81.10.119.154] has joined #kubuntu
glDaherhi, I wanna ask if I must uninstall gnome to get kubuntu running or not..05:44
apokryphosglDaher: not necessary, no05:45
unintendedno05:45
lascarapokryphos: all i needed was a reboot05:45
lascarthanx again05:45
glDaheron the kubuntu faq it says this: "... installing Ubuntu and adding the KDE packages (and removing the Gnome packages)"05:45
lascari'm off two the first day of my 2nd year at rutgers05:46
lascartill then05:46
glDaherthen perhaps someone needs to edit that.05:46
apokryphosglDaher: to install kubuntu.... sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:46
apokryphosthat won't remove any gnome stuff05:46
glDaheryeah, I know this should work this way, but thought the faq is wierd05:46
apokryphosglDaher: which kubuntu faq?05:46
glDaherthanks apokryphos, anywhere I should report this?05:46
glDaherhttp://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php05:46
glDaherfirst question05:47
=== Tm_T [n=travolta@85-156-4-245.elisa-mobile.fi] has left #kubuntu []
=== uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphosglDaher: no, that's just telling you what *Kubuntu* is05:48
apokryphosi.e. the ISO05:48
=== gnumdk_ [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-63-136.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnumdk_ is now known as gnumdk
glDaheroh right, I thought I read that twice, and I was like ---> o.0 ... ;) cool then, thanks05:48
=== glDaher [n=daher@81.10.119.154] has left #kubuntu []
=== aitor [n=aitor@84-122-70-73.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== aitor is now known as gaspode-hispano
marculohello, i uninstalled the packages in kynoptics that started with nvidia* (since i installed them using atp-get) and installed the nvidia drivers (from www.nvidia.com) after have closed the X using ctr-alt-backspace. installation was succesfull, but after reboot, kubuntu is still in shell mode.. any way to fix?05:59
marculoprobably i uninstalled something i shouldn't do?05:59
=== uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
=== ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== CellarDoor [n=CellarDo@d58-104-21-142.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== CellarDoor [n=CellarDo@d58-104-21-142.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [""Righteousness]
apokryphos[K] ubuntu got best distro by TUX issue, congrats!06:08
apokryphosKDE best DE by a 3:1 margin :D06:08
=== mindspin is now known as _mindspin
apokryphosXMMS best player -- bah!06:09
seth_keww06:09
seth_kXMMS < all06:09
apokryphosCan't believe people still use that, tbh. :)06:10
apokryphosKWrite came in higher than Kate -- that's an odd one.06:10
=== JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Court-Jus [n=Court-Ju@court-jus.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== laser_tk [n=laser@a84-231-249-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphos...and Thunderbird doubling all other email clients (KMail at second).06:12
seth_kI use KMail on laptop, it's lightweight. Thunderbird on desktop06:13
seth_kKMail still lacks polish06:13
seth_kTux isn't a good indicator of the population as a whole though, it should be called "Linux 4 Noobs & We Heart KDE Magazine"06:13
apokryphosheh06:13
nikkiaseth, there are a FEW media players that xmms beats, just06:13
nikkiaeg, mpg123 :)06:14
apokryphosyeah, still gives an indication of what those like06:14
seth_khaha nikkia, well played ;)06:14
nikkiaurgh, colours == evil06:14
apokryphostoo bright for my old eyes06:14
nikkianick highlighting meant that line was green on black, please desist!06:14
apokryphosFirefox beat Opera (which came third) 10 to 1, there06:14
seth_kackk, I forgot I was on windows!06:14
nikkiaapokryphos: not surprising06:15
seth_kI miss Konversation :(06:15
apokryphosFirefox has come and taken the limelight06:15
nikkiaseth_k: use kvirc, then you can have a common setup between both :P06:15
apokryphoseven though I think Opera is more worthy :D06:15
nikkiaapokryphos: its not just that, but opera has some serious 'wtf-ism's06:15
apokryphos(especially for new users)06:15
apokryphoshehe06:15
nikkiaapokryphos: the keyboard shortcuts, for example06:15
apokryphosthey're different, yes06:15
nikkiait took me about 3 days to track down where 'next-tab' and 'previous-tab' were06:16
apokryphosall easily changeable, of course, but it doesn't help that they're different to the browser world06:16
nikkiaapokryphos: except that firefox's conform to standards :P06:16
apokryphosstill, Opera has been there for longer, no?06:17
nikkialonger than firefox, yes06:17
nikkiahowever, that doesn't justify using non-standard keyboard shortcuts06:17
apokryphoswho made the standard?06:17
nikkiaapokryphos: a large chunk of them date back to apple and IBM, actually06:18
nikkiagood old CUAA (now just CUA, i think)06:18
=== Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphosthey made shortcuts for changing tabs?06:18
nikkiaapokryphos: thats also where things like ctrl-x,c,v come from06:18
apokryphosit uses those, surely06:18
nikkiaapokryphos: no, the tabs keys i don't remember where they came from06:18
nikkiabut stuff like ctrl-d == bookmark is *old*06:19
nikkiactrl-t is a wtfism06:19
apokryphoswhat proper browser had tabs though before Opera?06:19
nikkiaapokryphos: iCab?06:19
thoreauputicapokryphos: if you like Opera, Richard Stallman will haunt your drems and sing the Free Software Song at you (believe me, you don't want to hear RMS singing ) ;-)06:19
apokryphosI do admit that they should, regardless, change now.06:19
apokryphoshehe06:19
nikkiathoreauputic: actually, it'd be bad enough having RMS in your dreams, period06:20
=== deacon [n=deacon@ny-amherst-C4-1-bg4c-2-125.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu
thoreauputicnikkia: heheh :)06:20
nikkiaespecially, if like most high IQ people, you have full senses in your dreams06:20
apokryphos(on another note, shouldn't we disable colours in this chan? They're annoying)06:20
deaconok, bck.  sorry.  had to reboot06:20
nikkia(he stinks :)06:20
apokryphosheh06:20
apokryphosI find it odd that people genuinely think that Opera is ugly06:21
ToyManhi all06:21
nikkiaapokryphos: bits of it are06:21
apokryphosIt's so nice and slick06:21
nikkiaapokryphos: the windecs on popups, for example06:21
ToyManis there a way to log which programs are doing outbound on port 21 from my own box?06:21
apokryphoshas cool features; beautiful ticks, extra lil' things that I think... "wow, they got that right"06:21
ToyManI have an isp that's blocking me and telling me i'm trying to access their ftp more than 10 times in ten seconds06:21
nikkiaToyMan: yes, its called 'ps -aux | fgrep ftp'06:21
apokryphosnikkia: what's wrong with them?06:21
nikkiaapokryphos: they're drawn by opera, and thus don't match your WM06:22
nikkiaToyMan: ah, going out to some other port 2106:22
apokryphosToyMan: you can use netstat to check what's taking what port06:22
nikkiaToyMan: lsof will show tcp connections06:22
nikkiaToyMan: or you can use netstat -p06:22
deaconapokryphos, I can't speak for on Kubuntu, as I use firefox.  But on XP Opera is ugly, cluttered and slow.06:22
ToyManyes, but does it log?06:22
nikkiaboth probably need to be run as root unless the process is running as you06:22
nikkiaToyMan: no, you'll have to write a script for that06:22
apokryphosnikkia: Integration isn't a strength. True. :)06:22
nikkiaToyMan: you could also use tcpdump to do it, but it won't tell you WHAT, just that its happening06:23
apokryphosnikkia: I still prefer the look (by a long margin) to Firefox GTK06:23
apokryphosdeacon: Interesting. I think the contrary on all counts :)  (even on Windows)06:23
ToyManhmmm. ok, thanks06:23
ToyMananyone here using nvu at all?06:23
ToyManthat's the only prg on the linooks side that I could see causing a problem06:24
=== Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
nikkiaToyMan: tbh, if your ISP is blocking you, then just netstat -p might give you a hint, as you'll probably have loads of SYN_WAIT or FIN_WAIT state sockets open :)06:24
nikkiaToyMan: nvu is most likely your problem, yes06:24
nikkiaand no, i don't use it, its a buggy POS06:24
deaconNot that I don't HAVE Opera, just simply to make sure I have a spare browser.  But I just prefer firefox overall.  But then i suppose beauty is indeed in the eye of the behiolder.06:24
=== red-tag [n=jordi@80-102-178-136.bcn1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu
thoreauputicapokryphos: I use the Pinball FF theme, and reduce the toolbars etc to one line - it's quite clean that way (don't like the default theme)06:24
ToyMank, thanks nikkia 06:24
apokryphosdeacon: I generally tend to disagree when people say that; beauty is more intersubjective than subjective06:25
=== seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu
deaconrofl06:25
apokryphosthoreauputic: I don't much like it either06:25
apokryphosdeacon: yes, that's me telling you what's beautiful :P06:25
deaconwell, gotta go make lunch.  Just stopped by to say that the font fix DID work, I just needed to reboot.06:25
apokryphosj/k; Not really; I'm just saying that it's not as subjective as people think.06:26
=== Court-Jus [n=Court-Ju@court-jus.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
deaconso thanks to TM, even if he isn't here now06:26
apokryphosdeacon: ok, see ya06:26
deaconCU later06:26
=== deacon [n=deacon@ny-amherst-C4-1-bg4c-2-125.bflony.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu
nikkiaright, i'm going to head out for a few minutes to try and pick up some bargains from netto :P06:26
nikkia(they have guitar stands for sale this week!!!)06:26
apokryphosnikkia: only the best shop in the *world*06:26
apokryphosyou can buy yoghurts and stuff ro 8p!06:27
nikkiaapokryphos: no, its a lousy shop, except when they have strange and puzzling items cheap06:27
nikkiaapokryphos: such as logitech keyboards for a tenner06:27
apokryphosnikkia: everything is cheap06:27
apokryphosand for lunchtime, it's the best possible shop 06:27
apokryphos(it was just pretty far from oru school)06:27
=== Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphosstill, there was stiff competition for lunchtimes06:28
apokryphos"Sam's Chicken" had 2-for2 -- 2 beautiful chicken-burgers, and 2 fries, for 2 bucks! =)06:28
=== Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-233-7-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== julia [n=julia@xdslaj218.osnanet.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Fraeon [i=kzer-za@85-194-204-72.wlannet.com] has joined #kubuntu
FraeonMaybe I'll just wait for the final Breezy release06:30
=== Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu
marculowho help me uninstalling the nvidia kernel module?06:41
marculoX is fucked, i can't start it =\06:41
=== ubuntu [n=ubuntu@ns2.agat.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu
marculonobody know?06:45
=== _pierre [n=pierre@pool-151-196-9-20.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
marculoError: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version 1.0.7174. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.06:47
marculo(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!06:47
marculo(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***06:47
marculoanybody have a clue?06:47
_pierreHello?06:48
ubuntuthis distribution just sux.06:48
_pierreHello06:49
_pierreanybody home?06:49
marculowell, lol.06:49
marculothat didn't help much06:49
_pierre???06:49
apokryphosSaying "hello?" "???" is hardly going to help06:49
apokryphosif you have a question, state it. If you don't get a response, then fine.06:49
ztonzy"hello"06:49
ztonzy:D06:49
apokryphosmarculo: for non-kde-related issues #ubuntu is really the better place06:50
_pierreOk I will dispense with common courtesy. I have a question06:50
_pierreI am trying to use my konquerer browser and I keep getting a message that I have my cookies off. I dont. but i still get that message.06:51
_pierreWhat can I do?06:51
=== P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.37.110.197] has joined #kubuntu
ztonzyapokryphos, hey06:51
apokryphos_pierre: did you just upgrade or something? What version of KDE?06:52
apokryphosztonzy: hola! :) How's it going?06:52
m0ns00n:-D06:52
m0ns00nHowdihow06:52
=== P3L|C4N0 o/ Hi people
ztonzyapokryphos, good, thanks for asking06:52
_pierre3.406:52
apokryphosm0ns00n, P3L|C4N0: Hi!06:52
_pierreIm using KUBUNTU06:52
apokryphosztonzy: how's everything going?06:52
apokryphos_pierre: try upgrading to 3.4.206:52
=== P3L|C4N0 :)
=== _pierre_ [n=pierre@pool-151-196-9-20.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
ztonzyapokryphos, started my internship today, doing plumbing :)06:53
_pierreJust got this ISO from the website YESTERDAY it shoule be up to date right?06:53
apokryphosztonzy: cool =). 06:53
apokryphos_pierre: a hoary one? No, it won't have 3.4.206:53
ztonzyapokryphos, yes06:54
_pierreyeah hoary. How do i get the latest version?06:54
apokryphos!kde34206:54
ubotuwell, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php06:54
m0ns00nbrb06:56
_pierreTHANKS!06:56
=== jatos [n=jamie@82-34-93-26.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
jatoshi06:57
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphosjatos: hi06:59
=== dazjorz [n=dazjorz@82.171.248.210] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzanybody here knows about a very good light-weight FTP server ?07:03
redguypure-ftpd?07:05
redguynot that I ever used it :-)07:06
ztonzy!breezy07:07
=== Nalioth [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
ztonzyhmmm07:07
ztonzywhy did I get PM'ed by the bot ?07:08
thoreauputicztonzy: if it's more than a few lines it goes to pm07:08
apokryphosNalioth: many ;P07:08
dazjorzRedguy: I've tried Pure-ftpd. It's not working for me.07:09
dazjorz!tell me about breezy07:09
Naliothdang, ubotu gets around, dont it?07:09
ztonzythoreauputic, ah ok07:09
apokryphosNalioth: yeah, got cafuego to get 'im in here as soon as I saw the usefulness07:10
Naliothat least it's a useful bot07:11
dazjorzanyone here ever used vsftpd ?07:12
redguyubotu is a liar07:12
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, redguy07:12
apokryphosNalioth: Indeed. Have you tried out supybots?07:13
apokryphosyeouch07:13
Naliothi have no need for a droid07:13
apokryphosthey don't permit /msg ; I ask in #supybot why.... no answer. They're "help" is anything but helpful too, unfortunately.07:15
Naliothapokryphos: you mean like #debian?07:15
apokryphosno, as in you cannot /msg the bot07:16
apokryphosSeems pretty stupid to me07:16
Naliothapokryphos: which bot?07:16
dazjorzsomeone here who has ever used vsftpd07:16
apokryphosNalioth: supybots; susehelp one, for example07:16
dazjorzor any other good ftp server that can be used for probably just one user07:17
dazjorzNvm, i'm gonna reinstall Ubuntu anyways.07:17
Naliothapokryphos: ah. well ubotu answers up07:17
=== dazjorz is still banned from #ubuntu..... why ?!?!
apokryphosblootbots are infinitely superior, without a doubt07:17
Nalioth!botsnack07:17
ubotuthanks nalioth :)07:17
=== dazjorz wants to join #ubuntu again... :(
Naliothdazjorz: what did you do to get banned?07:17
apokryphosdazjorz: please stop asking that in here07:17
dazjorzNalioth: Me and my friend were talking offtopic, Seveas asked to stop, I did, my friend didn't so I put him on ignore07:18
dazjorzNalioth: Later, I asked twice how to deignore him and Seveas put me on +q07:18
apokryphosis it me, or does your story change slightly each time? :)07:18
Naliothapokryphos: it's your bad memory, lol07:18
dazjorzNalioth: Then when I asked him, after about an hour, why I still had the q07:18
dazjorzand then he banned me07:18
dazjorzapokryphos: It doesn't change slightly each time07:18
apokryphosdazjorz: last time you said you nearly got banned for shouting07:18
apokryphosdazjorz: and ended up nearly getting banned in here too07:18
Naliothdazjorz: he will unban you probably later today07:18
dazjorzapokryphos: Yes, the second time I asked how to deignore someone in capitals.07:19
dazjorzNalioth: That was now, 2 weeks ago.07:19
Naliothdazjorz: wow you must have hurt seveas' ears07:19
=== jefis [n=jefis@85.206.102.179] has joined #kubuntu
jefishow to disable boot scripts on startup like 0dns-down and time synchroning?07:20
dazjorzNalioth: And as I'm back in Ubuntu now, along with my server, I would like to talk in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu since the last is mainly about KDE...07:20
dazjorzNalioth: Though, I've send Seveas a memo and some PM's (he's called Seveaz now) but he still won't answer and won't do anything against it07:20
Naliothdazjorz: usually (with most ops) the more you pester them about your 'punishment', the longer it will be07:21
apokryphosdazjorz: the fact that you keep mentioning this in here is getting annoying, too.07:21
=== Spudchat [n=none@adsl-69-211-23-135.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzNalioth: Although, He's rejecting memo's, and I've just sent him 3 pm's at the same time, containing a question can I be unbanned, a notice that it happened a week ago... And nothing else but that07:22
Spudchathi everyone...im new to ubuntu and just decided to run kubunutu...they are basically the same right?07:23
apokryphosSpudchat: same base. Ubuntu uses GNOME; Kubuntu uses KDE.07:23
dazjorzapokryphos: It's very unfair! I really want to go to #ubuntu, but because Seveaz doesn't like me (he said it before), he bans me forever...07:24
Naliothdazjorz: quit pestering him and #kubuntu07:24
Spudchatallright good..im sick of gnome07:24
dazjorzapokryphos: What do you think anyone else would've got for that07:24
dazjorzNalioth: But...... argh07:24
Spudchatand wanted to use fedora core four but they dont support my wireless card :(07:24
=== dazjorz [n=dazjorz@82.171.248.210] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
apokryphosdazjorz: for shouting? A ban. And you're lucky you haven't got one here yet. :)07:25
Naliothdazjorz: nobody in #kubuntu can help you with dealings in #ubuntu07:25
Spudchatallright time to go install it :) be back from taht machine soon07:25
=== Spudchat [n=none@adsl-69-211-23-135.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-169-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax9-009.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic
=== Gorth- [n=gorth@cpe.atm2-0-51110.0x50a4d38e.abnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu
=== ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-135-189.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== _chris [n=chris@12-216-145-145.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== sune [n=sune@0x503e53ae.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu
=== sune [n=sune@0x503e53ae.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== bt [n=bt@user-5478.l6.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
bthello, I have tons of email in mbox format (from pine). Do you know if I can use them directly in thunderbird or Kmail?08:07
Naliothbt i dont think so08:09
Naliothbt use "mail" from a terminal 08:09
thoreauputicthere might be a way - with sylphed you can use "incorporate from spool" /var/mail08:11
thoreauputic*sylpheed08:11
btNalioth, thats an idea :) Im trying to get a permanent fix, I wouldnt like to use "mail" regularly08:11
=== gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-39-88.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Distro^Junkie [n=patrick@mctnnbsa28w-142167096026.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _chris [n=chris@12-216-145-145.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
Naliothbt: there is a way (complicated, if you ask me) to get your mail sent from the system to a mechanism (fetchmail or something) that your t-bird can read08:12
thoreauputicbt: there might be an option like the one I mentioned - check in kmail, it does most of these things08:12
Naliothbt: but i'd ask in #ubuntu, if you can't get an answer here08:12
=== aaron [n=aaron@p54AC0317.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
btI'll check the sylpheed solution08:15
btI tried the other day, cannot remember if kmail or thunderbird and they could convert one by one, but i've got more than 400 so...08:15
Naliothbt, the easiest way would be to have the system use a mta that t-bird or whatever could access08:16
=== dazjorz [n=dazjorz@82.171.248.210] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzbit fast question 08:16
dazjorzhow do I print something from Linux to a printer that's shared on a Windows machine ?08:16
dazjorzsomeone has a guide for that ?08:17
dazjorz!print08:17
ubotudazjorz: Are you on ritalin?08:17
dazjorz!netprint08:17
ubotuNo idea, dazjorz08:17
dazjorz!windowsprint08:17
ubotudazjorz: What?08:17
dazjorzuhm08:17
Distro^Junkieits been several months since I've used kubuntu so kinda outta the circle of information... can someone direct me to a site for tutorials after you get kubuntu installed ?08:17
NaliothDistro^Junkie: any KDE help site will be useful, also wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:17
thoreauputicdazjorz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OldFrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-4418cd7d615ef8671298999da334d7f7b8d3b8ae08:18
thoreauputicmight help08:18
Naliothdazjorz: that URL i just sent Distro^Junkie will help you too08:18
btNalioth, but at some point you need to move the mail from the mta storage to a local folder, and then it gets into mbox or maildir, correct?08:18
dazjorzNalioth: Thanks a lot08:18
blackflag?08:18
Distro^Junkiethanx Nalioth 08:18
thoreauputicNalioth: that URL is the answer to the !docs command IIRC08:19
thoreauputic!docs08:19
ubotuI guess docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:19
thoreauputicyup08:19
Naliothbt: once you get your system to xfer the mail to a t-bird friendly mta, you can set t-bird to remove mail from server, blah08:19
=== blackflag [n=stef@p54ABD9B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aaron is now known as Budda
btNalioth, got that! what I want to convert is _old_ email, not the new one coming. I probably won't use even a local mta08:21
Naliothbt: i know how "I" would do it, but it's kinda fscked and jerry rigged08:22
=== viyyer [n=viyyer@202.159.205.141] has joined #kubuntu
viyyerI have a kubuntu install. I am not able to use kppp as it freezes when one tries to dial. 08:31
viyyerbut wvdial works fine. 08:31
viyyeris this a bug ?08:32
=== Sho_ [i=EHS1@konversation/developer/hein] has joined #kubuntu
=== Spudchat [n=Spuddle@adsl-69-211-23-135.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
Spudchatwow this kubuntu is really nice08:35
Spudchatkde is awesome08:35
Naliothisnt it, tho?08:37
=== Distro^Junkie [n=patrick@mctnnbsa28w-142167096026.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
Distro^Junkiehow do I go about updating amarok to 1.3 ?08:38
Spudchati was usin regular ubuntu and went looking for something else08:39
Spudchati found it right here in kde08:39
=== jefis [n=jefis@85.206.102.179] has joined #kubuntu
jefiscan someone help me with translucenty in kubuntu?, i know i need nvidia drivers, but how to make it work faster?08:41
jefisIf you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure08:42
jefis       you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel08:42
jefis       installed on your system. If you specified a separate08:42
jefis       output directory using either the "KBUILD_OUTPUT" or08:42
jefis       the "O" KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this08:42
jefis       directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with08:42
jefis       the appropriate nvidia-installer command line option.08:42
jefisups08:42
jefisthis is the error when i'm trying to install nvidia08:42
Naliothjefis, please dont paste in here. use a pastebin or #flood08:42
jefissorry08:43
jefisanyone have any ideas? ;)08:43
frank23jefis you need to install your kernel sources.... or just install the driver package from synaptic/kynaptic08:44
=== blackflag [n=stef@p54ABE918.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
jefisi have it installed08:44
jefisit's in /usr/src/linux08:44
frank23jefis how did you install them?08:45
jefiswith kynaptic08:45
jefiswhen archive is in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz208:45
jefistar -xjvf linux.xxxx.bz208:45
jefismv linux-source2.6.10 linux08:45
jefis:)08:45
frank23you don't need that... just install the appropriate linux-headers package08:47
jefisok08:47
frank23jefis: I think that's all you need08:47
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-210.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== senator32 [n=senator3@12-216-231-194.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
senator32i need some help getting my wifi working08:52
Nalioth!docs08:53
ubotuhmm... docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:53
Naliothsenator32: try at the above URL08:53
Naliothsenator32: or try in #ubuntu08:53
senator32well the card is reconized but it is non configurable in WiFi manager08:54
Spudchatis there a file i should edit for repositories?08:54
Nalioth!tell Spudchat about repos08:54
frank23senator32: the wifimanager in kcontrol? I never got that to works08:54
Spudchatty08:55
senator32oh08:55
senator32i can see the interface in ifconfig -a08:55
=== gdh [i=foobar@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
senator32but i dont know the commands to set it up with the SSID and the 128 bit wep08:55
=== Segali [n=Segali@dsl-jklgw2i6e.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
frank23senator32: I used network-admin from the package gnome-system-tools to setup my wifi card08:56
senator32ill try that08:56
frank23senator32: you can setup wep with it too08:56
btNalioth, I think I found the solution to the mbox issue. In thunderbird I can just copy the mbox into the storage folder and they are recognised. Not sure if it will take double the space as some other files with different extensions are created as well, but at least I will be able to get my old email08:57
senator32ah im ganna go get it now08:57
senator32thx08:57
Naliothbt: yes, that is what i was gonna suggest08:57
senator32hmm cant seem to find that in synaptic08:57
frank23senator32: its in main08:58
frank23!info gnome-system-tools08:58
ubotugnome-system-tools: (Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME), section gnome, is extra. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 985 kB, Installed size: 5136 kB08:58
senator32really08:59
senator32hmmm08:59
Naliothsenator32: you should be able to just run "network-admin"08:59
senator32didn't work08:59
senator32weird08:59
senator32im in kde is that an issue08:59
frank23I'm in kde too08:59
senator32weird08:59
senator32i dont have any network-admin09:00
frank23well you need to install gnome-system-tools to get network-admin09:00
senator32k09:00
dazjorzhow to create a driver disk ?09:00
=== dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnumdk_ [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-23-231.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu
dazjorzhow to format a isk09:03
=== aaron [n=aaron@p54AC0317.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
senator32ok another question...i have set a unix root pass in console like normal...evrrything works great, except that when i try and put it in the p[ass in control center and network manager the system just sits there and wont let me in as admin,,,,any ideas09:05
frank23does your user's pass work?09:05
dazjorzhow to fast format a disk ?09:05
dazjorzit was like09:05
dazjorzfscreate or something right ?09:06
Nalioth(k)ubuntu doesnt use root accounts for things09:06
frank23!sudo09:06
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:06
senator32welll actually i know its bad practice but its the same pass09:06
senator32should i change it09:06
=== aaron is now known as Budda
frank23senator32: it shouldn't matter09:06
Buddawich ports are used by apt?09:07
senator32k09:07
senator32i gtg thanks for the help guya09:07
NaliothBudda: 8009:07
NaliothBudda: 2109:07
frank23kcontrol has a problem going into administrator mode. It's better to run sudo kcontrol 09:07
=== p3ts [n=p3ts@84-50-48-246-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu
Buddai can't connect to any apt server and i doesn't know why...anyone got a solution?09:09
=== ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p50801DC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
NaliothBudda: it may be down09:10
Buddawould you try apt-get update and send me your sources.list?09:11
Nalioth!tell Budda about repos09:11
apokryphosBudda: if the error persists, please paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/apt/sources.list and then link it in here09:15
=== p3ts is now known as p3ts_
Buddaatm i've got another problem:09:17
BuddaE: Konnte Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock nicht bekommen - open ----> E: Can't get Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open09:18
NaliothBudda: you can only run one instance of apt at a time, or you need to start apt with "sudo"09:18
Buddaok got it thx09:20
Buddaso here's my sources.list09:20
Buddahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/179809:20
=== _mike [n=mike@82-41-227-152.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphosBudda: close any other instances of apt/synaptic/kynaptic etc09:24
apokryphossources look fine09:25
=== kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-082-224-229.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
kayfelixim running a ./configure script for an ac'97 realtek audio codec and its saying "checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist."09:27
kayfelixhow do I install it?09:27
kayfelixhelp greatly appreciated, kubuntu works a treat - except for the sound not working.!09:27
apokryphoskayfelix: you left before I could mention it, but #ubuntu is better for non-kde-related questions09:28
Naliothkayfelix: you're better off asking in #ubuntu first, then coming here09:28
kayfelixoh right, someone just sent me here - sorry but I had to get the hoover, thats why i left.09:28
apokryphoskayfelix: you hadn't stated your problem yet, that's why. 8)09:28
kayfelixits simple - i think - i need to get the kernel-source somehow - isnt that simple....09:29
apokryphoskernel source you get from apt09:29
Naliothkayfelix: it is simple, but i dont knwo the command line sequence, and there are users in #ubuntu who do09:29
kayfelixrightyo, thanks nalioth, i shall ask there09:29
=== khai [n=khai@66-215-200-160.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Sho_ [i=EHS1@konversation/developer/hein] has left #kubuntu []
=== _aaron [n=aaron@p54AC0317.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== _aaron is now known as Budda2
=== alek_6 [n=alexis@pat35-2-82-240-214-91.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== JensK [n=JensK@p54903C71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
wincidehi all :) i'm looking for a tomcat server, but i have not found any :S .. so i can't upload a site which needs tomcat to run .. does someone knows something about? thx :)09:53
=== orangey [n=orangey@hlfxns0145w-142167129126.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== p3ts_ is now known as p3ts
=== keith_ [n=keith@KEITHC.RES.WPI.NET] has joined #kubuntu
keith_i need help with my KDE control panel10:06
keith_when i go to any section, particularly network settings, the one i need to be in10:06
keith_it loads fine10:06
keith_but when i hit administrator mode10:06
keith_and enter my password10:06
keith_it always goes back to the homepage for the control panel10:06
=== orangey [n=orangey@hlfxns0145w-142167129126.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
keith_control center*10:06
frank23keith_: yeah... kcontrol has problems. try sudo kcontrol to start it10:08
keith_k thanks10:08
keith_frank- heres one last problem for you10:08
keith_im not in network settings under sudo10:09
keith_im trying to enable my wireless access point10:09
keith_im in college and the wireless networks are up but not yet connected to the internet10:09
keith_so i want to be ready when they do activate it10:09
keith_i set it to automatic, check turn on automatically when computer starts10:09
keith_and it basicaly enables for 1/3 a second10:09
keith_disables again10:09
keith_and doesnt remember my settings10:09
frank23... and the turn on automatically check doesn't stick?10:09
frank23yeah I had those problems too... hopefully the next version of kubuntu will fix all that!10:10
frank23well you need to install gnome-system-tools to get network-admin10:10
frank23I used network-admin to setup wireless10:10
frank23and it worked!10:10
keith_ok let me package search it10:10
keith_ok dling and installing now10:11
keith_ok where in the menu will that gnome system tools be now?10:12
frank23I don't think it will be in the menu at all10:12
frank23run network-config from console10:13
keith_so what command should i run/add10:13
frank23run network-admin10:13
keith_network-config does not do anything10:13
frank23it's network-admin, sorry10:13
keith_network admin works10:13
keith_awesome!10:13
keith_imma make a shortcut for that...10:13
keith_now how do i scan access points10:14
keith_easily and successfully10:14
frank23not sure10:15
frank23I knew my ssid10:15
keith_k well thanks for the help so far...... im out for a bit10:15
Naliothiwlist, it should be10:15
Naliothoh well10:15
frank23too late ;010:16
=== Zinoc [n=david@nan77-2-82-242-116-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
frank23Nalioth: are you in Houston?10:17
Naliothjust like my IP says10:17
Naliothcomplete with nasty heat10:17
Naliothand horrible humidity10:17
frank23Nalioth: did people start to arrive from New-Orleans?10:18
Nalioththey've been arriving10:18
=== Luen [n=luen@81-203-36-205.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu
=== Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu
kayfelixI know I've already asked, but maybe there's someone new in here now with the answer. I have a sound problem. Everything is there, running, looking peachy... but no sound. System beep works over the speakers though, so im pretty sure HW is all setup and working. Its an AC'97 Realtek onboard soundcard on an ASROCK K7S41GX mainboard, im running kubuntu and to be honest, am completely at a loss as to what to do next.10:29
=== troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Naliothkayfelix: you might try #kde10:29
kayfelix;) oki gonna give it a go10:30
frank23kayfelix: try cat somefile > /dev/dsp to see if your sound driver works10:35
Spudchatshould i follow the directions for ubuntu regarding installing my nvidia driver?10:47
=== _mike [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
NaliothSpudchat: yes. kubuntu is ubuntu is kubuntu....10:47
NaliothSpudchat: the difference is KDE and gnome as default DMs10:48
Spudchatlol ok10:48
_mikehi, im trying to install the latest version of the gimp... but it says my version of GLIB isnt updated either...what do i do to remove the old glib and get the new one10:48
Nalioth_mike: that might break your system10:49
Naliothhave you looked in backports?10:49
_mike...huh?10:49
_mikebackports?10:50
_mikeIm still kinda new to linux10:50
Nalioth!backports10:50
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:50
Nalioth!repos10:50
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:50
Naliothmike i'd advise you to read both of these websites b4 you proceed10:51
Naliothor all 3, even10:51
_mike...wut?10:51
_mikewell10:51
Nalioth_mike: the 3 URLs ubotu has just mentioned.10:52
_mikeall i wanna do is upgrade my gimp/glib...i cant do that without "breaking my system"?10:52
Naliothcorrect10:52
Naliothglib is one of the foundation blocks of ubuntu10:53
_mikeim using KDE tho..10:53
Naliothyou change it, nothing works (well, if at all)10:53
Naliothubuntu is kubuntu.10:53
_mikeim running hoary 5.04 with KDE10:53
=== KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu
Naliothok. read those URLs10:54
frank23_mike: basically to get the latest version of gimp, either use backports or compile from source10:54
_mikeim trying to compile from source, but it detects my glib is at 2.63 and it needs to be at like 2.8 sumthing10:54
Naliothwhat he said, lol10:54
=== kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Nalioth_mike: are there features in the latest gimp that are earthshaking?10:55
_mikei dont care if they arent that good Nalioth, i dont like this old gimp and i want the new one10:56
Nalioth_mike: i just put gimp 2.2.4 on my box from source, it gave me no glib errors10:57
Nalioth_mike: i'm running hoary, also10:57
_mikeim trying to get 2.2.8...latest version10:57
=== weblight2000 [n=weblight@p213.54.208.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu
_mikehow would i get it through backports10:58
Nalioth_mike: you might have to try a step lower until you get one that doesnt complain about the glib10:58
Nalioth_mike: read those URLs10:58
Nalioth_mike: and youll have access to all kinds of updated software10:58
=== weblight2000 [n=weblight@p213.54.208.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
_mikei dont get sum parts of the site...10:59
_mikesorry if im a bit newby but linux is complicated10:59
frank23_mike: there is alot to learn because it's different. Once you get going, it's easy11:00
Nalioth!tell _mike about backports11:00
Nalioth!tell _mike about repos11:00
_mikeok11:00
Nalioth_mike: you got the URLs and inst in a priv msg window11:01
_mikeok11:01
_mikethanx11:01
_mikethanks alot nalioth, im able to do it through synaptic now11:04
=== yonkel [n=yonkel@pcp04665066pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
yonkelanyone use a dell inspiron 6000 or have experience with it?11:05
Nalioth_mike: enjoy your new toys11:05
_mikethanks11:05
=== blackflag [n=stef@p54ABE918.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jpowers [n=jpowers@208-59-170-43.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== blackflag [n=stef@p54ABE918.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-082-224-229.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== Phantom^^ [n=john@82-71-19-153.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-23-231.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Phantom^^ is now known as John^^
=== _humbe [n=humbe@126.Red-213-97-165.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jefis [n=jefis@85.206.98.142] has joined #kubuntu
=== _humbe [n=humbe@126.Red-213-97-165.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.13] has joined #kubuntu
=== nxv_ [n=matrix@dsl-084-056-103-111.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-169-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hettar [n=hettar@ppp113-236.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== spiritz [n=spiritz@abo-97-248-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Tm_T [n=travolta@85-156-3-230.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #kubuntu
spiritzis there any kde 3.5 package available somewhere?11:58
=== aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu
Tm_Twell, there's no KDE 3.5 yet11:59
Tm_Tit's not released12:00
yonkeli am on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop and i installed kubuntu successfully. i can't seem to get x to start however. can someone help?12:00
teprrr:)12:01
teprrrthere's alpha version :)12:01
spiritzyes sure; But maybe there is beta package.. My computer is kind of old and konstruct takes ages to compile12:01
teprrrTm_T, you got into someone's blog, btw ;)12:01
Tm_Twat?!12:02
Tm_Twhere?12:02
=== _mike [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
Tm_Tteprrr: and hullo :)12:02
_mikehey nalioth, wuts the pastebin for the repositories again?12:02
teprrrhullo?12:02
teprrrcan't find it atm, just a minute..12:02
Tm_Thello =)12:02
=== _mike is now known as TheMagnumMunkey
=== _hugues [n=hugues@mon75-2-81-57-110-135.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
teprrrah, hello hello ;)12:04
=== frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu
frank23!repos12:04
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:04
teprrrduh, no luck :/12:04
teprrrsomewhere saw a quote of yours :)12:04
Tm_Toh12:04
TheMagnumMunkeythanx ubotu12:04
=== TheMagnumMunkey [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!