[12:05] <BlankB> edulix: how about doing: apt-cache policy  packagename
[12:06] <edulix> BlankB: already tried that, and also apt-cache showpkg kiax, none of those show the rep
[12:07] <BlankB> kiax is not in any repository that I am using.
[12:08] <BlankB> when you do: apt-cache show kiax     does it return anything at all?
[12:12] <edulix> Blank: sure
[12:12] <edulix> BlankB: Package, Status, Priority, etc
[12:12] <edulix> as usual
[12:13] <BlankB> send me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list to here: http://blankb.pastebin.com/
[12:14] <ShdwShinobi> Would someone be able to help me with a problem on my display size? i can't remember what to change in the xorg.conf
[12:15] <edulix> BlankB: http://blankb.pastebin.com/351418
[12:15] <ShdwShinobi> and, i can't get a size higher then 640x480 (even from the configure menu)
[12:17] <BlankB> edulix: Using your sources.list I dont see kiax when I do apt-get search kiax
[12:18] <edulix> oh my, that's strange
[12:20] <BlankB> did you install kiax outside of apt-get? like using dpkg?
[12:20] <edulix> i downloaded also the package from sourceforge, but obviosly it's not installed
[12:20] <edulix> BTW, is it dangerous to use --auto-deconfigure dpkg option?
[12:22] <edulix> BlankerB: now after doing a apt-get -f install kiax is not in apt so that was it
[12:22] <BlankB> dunno about that.
[12:23] <edulix> anyway, i'll mail the package owner
[12:23] <ShdwShinobi> BlankB, would you be able to help me with my problem?
[12:24] <BlankB> just ask a question if someone here thinks they can help they will respond.
[12:26] <ShdwShinobi> My montior is stuck at 640x480. I know i have to change something in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but i do not know what it is. Does anyone have any idea on what i have to change?
[12:26] <jrattner1> when i type lspci -v my sound card is listed with a weird property that saysCapabilities: <available only to root> how do i change it to all users?
[12:27] <BlankB> shdwshinobi: im not sure how to do that. Im not that good with X config stuff.
[12:28] <seth_k> ShdwShinobi, you need to add the VertRefresh and HorizSync lines
[12:28] <seth_k> ShdwShinobi, what is the model of your monitor?
[12:29] <ShdwShinobi> DELL E772c
[12:29] <seth_k> okay, one moment :)
[12:30] <ShdwShinobi> :)
[12:30] <seth_k> okay, ShdwShinobi
[12:30] <seth_k> run in terminal:
[12:30] <seth_k> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <seth_k> (just copy and paste)
[12:30] <ShdwShinobi> kk
[12:30] <ShdwShinobi> it's open
[12:30] <Blissex> jrattner1: nothing that is returned by 'lspci' matters as to Linux user permissions.
[12:30] <jrattner1> Blissex, then why does it say that
[12:30] <seth_k> okay, ShdwShinobi, find the "Monitor" section and add these lines
[12:31] <seth_k> HorizSync 30-70
[12:31] <seth_k> VertRefresh 50-160
[12:31] <seth_k> save and restart X, and you should have resolution options :)
[12:31] <ShdwShinobi> ok
[12:31] <ShdwShinobi> :)
[12:31] <ShdwShinobi> thanks
[12:31] <seth_k> np
[12:32] <jrattner1> Blissex, ?
[12:33] <edulix> i need to no, bye!
[12:34] <Blissex> jrattner1: because you are not running 'lspci' as 'root', so the _display_ of information is limited.
[12:34] <ShdwShinobi> to get a higher resolution, i just add the mode in the default screen, right?
[12:34] <seth_k> ShdwShinobi, you'll need to add it to each color depth for best results
[12:34] <seth_k> but yes
[12:34] <jrattner1> Blissex, ohh
[12:36] <ShdwShinobi> ok. and if it's not too much bother. I have a nVidia geforce card, and i would like to be able to use that to use dual screen. would you know how to set it up? (sorry, but i'm just switching to Kubuntu from XP... after being fed up with it)
[12:36] <seth_k> ummm
[12:36] <seth_k> you'll need Xinerama
[12:36] <seth_k> but I've never used it
[12:36] <seth_k> try #ubuntu, that's not a KDE question so you may get better general help in there :)
[12:37] <seth_k> I gotta run to class now anyways
[12:37] <ShdwShinobi> ok :) thanks
[12:37] <seth_k> cheers :) hope you get it working
[12:38] <Blissex> ShdwShinobi: look at the sample configs in http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ if you are comfortable with writing config files by hand
[12:39] <Blissex> ShdwShinobi: otherwise just rerun the X  configuration generator, it should support generating dual screen setups.
[12:39] <ShdwShinobi> ok. i'm comfortable editing it by hand... i just use backups :)
[12:40] <ShdwShinobi> although it's been a while since using linux.. and i forgot how to backup files easily
[12:41] <Pete051> hi peeps
[12:42] <ShdwShinobi> Blissex: the link timed out
[12:42] <BlankB> shdwshinobi: have a look at http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewforum.php?f=2 if you are using a matrix.
[12:42] <BlankB> matrix=matrox.
[12:44] <Blissex> ShdwShinobi: http://zen.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ might work, try that
[12:49] <ShdwShinobi> Blissex: it didn't work...
[12:49] <ShdwShinobi> i think i have a start though... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:58] <edulix> wohoo
[12:58] <edulix> now i have kiax!
[12:58] <edulix> compiled from sources
[02:12] <DewDude> where can i add repositories in Kynaptic
[02:12] <DewDude> most of the things iv'e seen are synaptic specific
[02:15] <setite> whats the repo line for kubuntu
[02:16] <crimsun> see the topic
[02:23] <ShdwShinobi> who knows how to access Synaptic Package Manager? I can't find System>Administration
[02:24] <DewDude> did you install it?
[02:24] <DewDude> it didn't come preloaded with kubuntu
[02:24] <ShdwShinobi> ah.. the guide never said that you had to do that... thanks :) i can get it now
[02:24] <DewDude> kynaptic did
[02:24] <DewDude> well
[02:24] <DewDude> ubuntu came with it
[02:24] <DewDude> kubuntu came with kynaptic
[02:27] <ShdwShinobi> wierd... i did: apt-get install synaptic   it install it and everything, but there's always an error with unpackaging (for anything i do with apt-get) that it doesn't 
[03:02] <ShdwShinobi> can someone help me manually install Synaptic Package Manager?
[03:18] <ShdwShinobi> how do you configure kubuntu with a nvidia graphics card? it won't seem to recognize it.
[03:29] <kalenedrael> hello
[03:30] <kalenedrael> i'm on the kubuntu livecd right now... looking for a way to disable the swap partition
[03:30] <kalenedrael> i need to repartition the drive and it can't seem to be able to, because the swap partition is in use
[03:35] <kalenedrael> this is pissing me off
[03:39] <murtaugh> where can i find a list of the debs I need to install in order to compile kde/qt software?
[03:40] <murtaugh> I remember that I need a bunch of dev packages (qt and kde) but I remember there being a few others
[03:42] <kalenedrael> i suspect that all you need to compile software for qt and kde are the qt and kde dev packages...
[03:43] <kalenedrael> you also need standard headers
[03:43] <kalenedrael> and a compiler :P
[03:43] <murtaugh> alright thanks, I'm going through and googling the compile errors... I'll get em'!
[03:44] <kalenedrael> well, what errors?
[03:44] <kalenedrael> if it says something like 'foo/foo.h not found' then you probably need foo-dev or libfoo-dev
[03:44] <murtaugh> its just complaining qt headers arn't installed, etc... I think I've got it :)
[03:45] <kalenedrael> ok
[03:45] <murtaugh> is KDE 3.5 sept or october?
[03:45] <kalenedrael> dunno
[03:46] <murtaugh> I wanted to switch to gnome because I like the interface better but I switched back because I missed konqueror and kate
[03:46] <murtaugh> and they look crappy in a gtk environment :)
[03:47] <kalenedrael> wow, i am an idiot
[03:47] <kalenedrael> that was easier than it should have been
[03:47] <murtaugh> ?
[03:47] <kalenedrael> i was trying to disable swap
[03:47] <kalenedrael> i'm on the kubuntu livecd
[03:48] <murtaugh> ah
[03:48] <kalenedrael> the command would be 'sudo swapoff -a'...
[03:48] <kalenedrael> i typed that and apparently it stopped using swap, causing me to go 'wtf?' at how simple it was
[03:48] <murtaugh> yep, I only now that because of my brief gentoo experience
[03:50] <murtaugh> do you know if there are debs for amarok 1.3? or is that source only
[03:51] <kalenedrael> there are debs, i think
[03:51] <kalenedrael> i don't know what the latest version is
[03:51] <murtaugh> so are you moving your kubuntu live CD image to your harddrive?
[03:52] <kalenedrael> no, i already have kubuntu installed
[03:52] <kalenedrael> i'm mucking around with the partitions
[03:52] <murtaugh> oh ok
[03:54] <murtaugh> I installed osX using pearpc last night... took 5 hours for the osX install process to finish...but it works... pretty cool but slow
[04:09] <_setite> what file loads modules automatically so i dont have to type modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1416 product=0x1110 whenever i start
[04:09] <_setite> and also for mknod
[04:13] <`Nomad>  Hi all, I am running Firefox 1.0.3 on Kubuntu and my search box is gone weird.  I can't select which search engines I want to use in it.. Any ideas?
[04:14] <hussam> `Nomad: does it keeps defaulting to google?
[04:16] <`Nomad> Hussam: It has no other option, no icon showing on the left of th ebox, and no way to add others, like dictionary.com
[04:17] <hussam> `Nomad: you need to run firefox as root to add additional search engines
[04:17] <`Nomad> ahh?
[04:17] <`Nomad> ok, will try
[04:21] <`Nomad> hussam: sudo mozilla-firefox   ?
[04:21] <`Nomad> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:23] <hussam> `Nomad: probably sudo firefox
[04:24] <`Nomad> it,s a matter of permission on the display..
[04:24] <`Nomad> root can't open a window
[04:25] <hussam> ok I see
[04:26] <hussam> I usually use gksu to run stuff as root
[04:26] <hussam> because kdesu will use sudo and not su
[04:26] <`Nomad> It's my theme.. :(
[04:26] <`Nomad> I just switched to the default theme and it's back
[04:26] <`Nomad> so something went wrong with my Noia theme
[04:26] <Wimpie> need to recover my disk partition.  isn't there an external command  on the install CD that I can call ?
[04:26] <`Nomad> thanks for your help :)
[04:26] <_setite> woot worked
[04:27] <hussam> `Nomad: doesn't kubuntu have firefox 1.0.6 ?
[04:27] <`Nomad> not mine :(
[04:27] <`Nomad> I'm sorry, you're right
[04:27] <`Nomad> 1.0.6
[04:27] <`Nomad> am too tired :)
[04:27] <hussam> oh ok
[04:30] <`Nomad> wow.  Different skins are fine, just Noia Extreme.. Solved :)
[04:31] <`Nomad> Now I have my list back, but I have 2 Googles.  One with no icons.. There must just be a file somewhere where I can take out the extra?
[04:32] <hussam> `Nomad: check in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/searchplugins/
[04:48] <`Nomad> hussam: Thanks a lot
[04:48] <`Nomad> :)
[04:59] <lascar> my printer was working fine last week when I set it up, but whenever I send it a job, the spool server eternally processes
[05:02] <lascar> can anyone help?
[05:09] <`Nomad> hussam:  There are also plugins within our local folders ( /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/c653jh7623.72653/search)  and that is where I had a google.src without a matching google.png  :)
[05:09] <`Nomad> problems all solved, goodnight
[05:09] <hussam> `Nomad: cool :)
[05:36] <Elsidox> can someone tell me what package I need to get the mediaplayer in apollon to work?
[05:36] <fatejudger> apollon?
[05:38] <Elsidox> apollon is a p2p program
[05:38] <Elsidox> a very nice one
[05:38] <Elsidox> =)
[05:42] <lascar> is it available as a package?
[05:43] <Elsidox> lascar: yes
[05:43] <lascar> where is it contained?  Universe?  Multiverse?
[05:44] <Elsidox> lascar: im not sure
[05:44] <Elsidox> one sec i can check
[05:44] <lascar> cool
[05:44] <Elsidox> lascar: I think universe
[05:45] <fatejudger> p2p program?
[05:45] <fatejudger> like Kazaa?
[05:45] <fatejudger> I prefer torrents myself
[05:45] <Elsidox> similar
[05:45] <setite> can anyone help me.. whats this mean.. i used sudo
[05:45] <setite> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:45] <fatejudger> Ktorrent is awesome
[05:45] <Elsidox> fatejudger: agreed
[05:45] <Elsidox> fatejudger: But i use apollon for downloading singel songs
[05:46] <fatejudger> ah
[05:46] <fatejudger> I tend to only download music from artists that are able to put out a good cd
[05:46] <fatejudger> with mostly all good songs
[05:46] <fatejudger> it's very rare that I need to download a single song
[05:46] <fatejudger> and if I do
[05:46] <fatejudger> I just use my windows box
[05:46] <lascar> fatejudger: that's entirely subjectve
[05:46] <fatejudger> MIRC + Autoget
[05:46] <lascar> *subjective
[05:46] <fatejudger> yeah
[05:46] <fatejudger> I wish there was autoget for linux
[05:47] <fatejudger> I have a dualboot on here
[05:47] <fatejudger> windows and linux
[05:47] <fatejudger> but linux is my default
[05:47] <Elsidox> whats autoget?
[05:47] <lascar> what partition tool did you use?
[05:47] <fatejudger> I used the default partitioner for Kubuntu
[05:47] <fatejudger> autoget is a plugin for mirc
[05:47] <fatejudger> or a script
[05:47] <fatejudger> and basically it goes on the main mp3 channels
[05:47] <fatejudger> and searches for song
[05:47] <fatejudger> *songs
[05:47] <Elsidox> awesome
[05:47] <fatejudger> yea it is
[05:47] <Elsidox> i really like mirc
[05:47] <fatejudger> mirc is good
[05:48] <fatejudger> except it isn't free
[05:48] <lascar> fatejudger: qtparted?
[05:48] <fatejudger> qtparted?
[05:48] <lascar> there are so many keys for mirc
[05:48] <Elsidox> im using konversation atm its pretty good
[05:48] <fatejudger> yeah, I use konversation
[05:48] <fatejudger> but there isn't an irc client for linux made for downloading things
[05:48] <fatejudger> at least that I know of
[05:49] <lascar> I still can't get apollon
[05:49] <Elsidox> do either of you know how to remove the sastus of a contact from the tabs in kopete? The tabs are hugh. I dont understand why they add the contacts satus in the tab.
[05:49] <lascar> help?  anyone?
[05:49] <Elsidox> lascar: http://apollon.sourceforge.net/files.html
[05:50] <lascar> ah!  it's in unstable
[05:50] <lascar> brb
[05:50] <setite> anyone know why im getting the ndiswrapper error?
[05:55] <shimmei> hai
[05:57] <lascar> Elsidox: crap, it's still not working!
[05:57] <shimmei> HAI
[05:57] <shimmei> YAP
[05:58] <pussfeller> mirc runs pretty good under wine
[05:58] <pussfeller> dk about the fserve specific commands tho
[06:00] <Speedy2> Can I update KDE 3.4.1 to 3.4.2 via synaptic (while in KDE) ?
[06:01] <lascar> probably, though i don't recommend it
[06:02] <fatejudger> why not?
[06:02] <fatejudger> it works great
[06:02] <fatejudger> I upgraded to KDE 3.4.2 from 3.4.0 that way
[06:02] <fatejudger> and I had no problems
[06:02] <lascar> you mean downgraded
[06:02] <lascar> ?
[06:02] <fatejudger> no
[06:02] <fatejudger> I upgraded
[06:03] <fatejudger> re-read what I said
[06:03] <fatejudger> to 3.4.2
[06:03] <fatejudger> from 3.4.0
[06:03] <lascar> X and everything?
[06:03] <fatejudger> yeah
[06:03] <fatejudger> the whole thing
[06:03] <fatejudger> linux is made to do that
[06:03] <fatejudger> besides
[06:03] <fatejudger> kde is run in memory by that time
[06:03] <Speedy2> fatejudger: THanks.
[06:03] <fatejudger> yeah, no problem
[06:03] <lascar> i probably still have Windows angst
[06:03] <fatejudger> yeah
[06:03] <lascar> just feel safer with Shell i guess
[06:03] <fatejudger> shell has more control obviously
[06:04] <fatejudger> but Kubuntu was made to be all GUI
[06:04] <fatejudger> if someone wanted it that way
[06:04] <fatejudger> I like a combination of both myself
[06:04] <fatejudger> I compile some things
[06:04] <lascar> all GUI's not a bad idea
[06:04] <fatejudger> but mostly I use packages
[06:04] <fatejudger> you could do all GUI
[06:04] <lascar> and binaries is a toss-up for me
[06:05] <fatejudger> Kubuntu was made to be usable, fast, and easy
[06:05] <lascar> which reminds me:
[06:05] <lascar> has anyone gotten Azureus to work?
[06:05] <fatejudger> I used Azureus
[06:05] <fatejudger> but don't
[06:05] <fatejudger> I switched
[06:05] <lascar> fatejudger: how'd you do it?
[06:05] <fatejudger> apt get ktorrent
[06:06] <fatejudger> or synaptic
[06:06] <fatejudger> whichever way you like to do it
[06:06] <lascar> i still can't get it
[06:06] <Speedy2> Is there a way to get synaptic to show "critical" updates (or what it deems critical updates) ?
[06:06] <fatejudger> ktorrent is great though
[06:06] <fatejudger> well
[06:06] <fatejudger> you can tell it to run a "smart" upgrade
[06:06] <fatejudger> then go into apply
[06:06] <fatejudger> and read the list of packages
[06:06] <fatejudger> you can always go to edit -> undo
[06:06] <fatejudger> if you don't like the packages it has picked out
[06:08] <Speedy2> Thanks
[06:08] <Speedy2> Let's see if it worked
[06:08] <lascar> ok, for those who were able to run ktorrent/apollon: can I see your sources.list?
[06:09] <lascar> just post it in pastebin
[06:12] <lascar> or can someone give me a deb site that supports the unstable repository
[06:12] <lascar> i'm begging now
[06:13] <Speedy2> Anyone else have KControl disappear of the menu in updating to KDE 3.4.2 ?
[06:13] <lascar> yep!
[06:14] <lascar> just create a shortcut
[06:14] <Speedy2> lascar: Yeah, did it.
[06:16] <fatejudger> yeah
[06:16] <fatejudger> that's what happens when you upgrade
[06:16] <fatejudger> I thought I had accidentally deleted it at first
[06:17] <fatejudger> I don't know why they took it out
[06:24] <lascar> nice, installing ktorrent
[06:24] <lascar> found a webpage for instructions
[06:26] <fatejudger> there is a repository for it
[06:28] <lascar> indeed
[06:28] <lascar> had to manually add it
[06:32] <lascar> and now i've got apollon
[06:32] <lascar> bbl
[07:56] <Loufier> is there any decent drivers for ati cards out?..
[07:57] <Kuolio> Loufier: decent in what way?
[07:58] <Kuolio> you mean if they work, then yes
[07:59] <Kuolio> atleast my mobile x700 is working like a charm, and i can play games like UT2k4 with maxed details
[07:59] <Kuolio> theres how-to about ati-drivers in the ubuntu wiki
[07:59] <Loufier> cuz ive heard the ati drivers made for linux r shit...
[08:00] <Loufier> ive got two cards one is a radeon 9800 pro, and the other is a nvida 5600 fx, the nvida one i had first n i hated it soo i got an ati.
[08:01] <Kuolio> hmm, i haven't had any problems with them, but then again installing ati-drivers with ubuntu is quite easy
[08:01] <Kuolio> you just need to apt-get some packages, make few edits on Xorg.conf and you are set to go
[08:02] <Loufier> i mean in temrs of gammin :P
[08:02] <Loufier> i want too use cedega
[08:02] <Kuolio> oh.. well, that i dont know much about
[08:02] <Kuolio> i only run native linux games
[08:03] <Loufier> hmmn owell may aswell try kubuntu with it, this system is about dead neway ^^
[08:03] <Kuolio> try asking in cedega's irc-channel or search for their forums?
[08:04] <Loufier> ive onli read bug reports too do with ati cards .... kinda dodgey cuz somehow i perfer the ati cards compared too the nvidia..
[08:27] <PurpleMotion> linux needs a better emulator scene
[08:31] <jeh> emulators for what?
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> nes, snes, gb, gba, gbc, sms, 32x, sega-cd, neo-geo, etc etc etc blah blah blah
[08:35] <pussfeller> theres some n-64 games i would love to play on a computer
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> zophar.net
[08:36] <pussfeller> but i never heard or that
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> click on linux on the right
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> emulators for everything youc an imagine
[08:45] <jeh> the only one i'd care for is the only one you didn't mention: c64
[08:46] <jeh> linux needs boulder dash
[08:46] <jeh> btw, can the kubuntu installer or some app configure the system to use NIS?
[08:47] <jeh> we run nis/nfs/dhcp at home and it would be nice if all that "just worked"
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> there's a c64 emu
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> zophar.net
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> click unix/linux on the right
[09:01] <samdfo0l> saluzatous
[09:02] <fatejudger> ?
[09:04] <samdfo0l> sorry ... it's an english chan isn't it !? :$
[09:04] <samdfo0l> I said hi everybody !
[09:06] <samdfo0l> so I let you sleep... have a good day !
[09:06] <nikkia> PurpleMotion: linux has some of the best emulators around
[09:07] <nikkia> PurpleMotion: there is one notable exception - the playstation emulators generally suck :)
[09:07] <nikkia> (mostly, tho, the *plugins* suck on linux, compared to the windows plugins)
[09:20] <Loufier> if u have 2 drives witch r raided taht equal up to 240 gig  wuld it be best too partition it one for windows and one for kubuntu, or have onli one.. and if partitioned how big should both sided be =/, if the onli thing ur going use the windows partition for is games u cant run on the linux side 
[09:28] <jeh> a shared raid for linux and windows?
[09:34] <Loufier> yea a shared raid ^_^
[09:34] <Loufier> im wondering if its a good idea or not
[09:57] <jeh> i wouldn't make a shared raid
[09:57] <jeh> not sure it can be done at all
[09:58] <jeh> the onboard bios raid stuff can't always be used under linux
[10:38] <Speedy2> Hey all.
[10:38] <Speedy2> Has anyone gotten the error: "Remote Files Not Accepted" from k3b?
[10:40] <_mindspin> does anyone here know about open office issues?
[10:41] <_mindspin> does anybody know how to make a samba share visible in the "Load file" dialog?
[10:41] <_mindspin> in open office??
[10:51] <bentox> Hi . I'm new in the linux world. I'm installing Kubuntu. I've got some issues with Matrox Dualhead cards; I've followed some tutos but it didn't help. Anyone to help me ?
[10:51] <Speedy2> bentox: I can try.  What's up?
[10:53] <bentox> Hi Speedy2 ; well, I'm trying to get my dualhead on. Actually, it work. I've got to screen , but both identicall. In my xconf file, There is only one screen existing. I've allready upadte, the linux-kernel and header, the Matrox driver. But , I'm a little confused on what to do now
[10:54] <Speedy2> bentox: Ah...sorry to say I haven't done a dual display in Linux yet.  The feature I think is called Cinerama?
[10:54] <bentox> Xinemara , yes
[10:55] <bentox> There is some information but I think I need some help to do it clean
[10:56] <bentox> Speedy2: Thanks any way. I continue my quest
[10:56] <Speedy2> bentox: Sorry I couldn't be of much help :(
[10:56] <bentox> I need the dual screen and my wacom tavlet working for a project of comics strip on linux
[10:58] <bentox> You can see the first here http://perso.bentox.net/comics.php  done on winxp and photoshop. THe goal is to make it on linux and giimp. A challenge man !
[10:59] <jeh> _mindspin: mount the samba share using smbclient or similar
[11:00] <Speedy2> bentox: That's very nice looking! :)
[11:00] <jeh> yeah, very nice!
[11:00] <_mindspin> the share is mounted ansd accesible via konqueror, what I need is the share shown in open offices file open dialog
[11:01] <jeh> although, what would "he grants the coffee machine" mean? greet?
[11:01] <bentox> Thanks, There is a lot to come
[11:01] <bentox> But first make Kubuntu working and my wacom
[11:04] <Speedy2> bentox: Understood.
[11:05] <jeh> bentox: add an extra "e" to coffee :)
[11:05] <jeh> i love the opera strip!
[11:06] <bentox> Yep It's noticed for days
[11:38] <furic> Heya
[11:38] <furic> How do i back up my messages from kmail?
[11:38] <furic> ~/Mail seems to only have messages from March, no other month, and is missing entire folders. :\
[11:45] <jeh> furic: maybe you use imap?
[11:45] <furic> I use pop
[11:50] <furic> Ahh, screw it, forget the mail
[12:08] <cdb> kubuntu does not ask for rootpasswd during install -> how do I retreive it?
[12:08] <cdb> hi all BTW
[12:10] <cdb> noone?
[12:13] <hussam> cdb: use sudo instead of su
[12:14] <cdb> I need it for Kpackage
[12:14] <hussam> cdb: so Kpackage is asking for root password?
[12:14] <cdb> jep, if you want to install something
[12:15] <hussam> cdb: I guess you can just run: kdesu kpackage 
[12:15] <cdb> good idea
[12:17] <cdb> hussam: works! great idea
[12:18] <ekimus> hi, anyone knows how to start kate and force it to a certain syntax highlighting?
[12:20] <cdb> kwrite does it standard
[12:20] <ekimus> what do you mean?
[12:21] <cdb> highlighting with colors/I/B etc
[12:21] <ekimus> i know it does, but i want to tell the application to specifically highlight a special syntax from a script
[12:21] <cdb> oh.. I'm sorry, can't help you there
[12:43] <hettar> cdb: you can also sudo passwd to set a password for root
[12:50] <cdb> hettar: that is an even better idea, then I don't have to run console
[12:50] <cdb> thanks
[01:32] <Somez> hi everyone!
[01:33] <aftertaf> hi
[01:35] <Somez> I have a desktop computer with internet connection and two ethernet cards, and I want to share the internet with my laptop, by connecting the two machines
[01:35] <Somez> can someone help me with that?
[01:36] <Somez> I connected them with a cable, and they have the same mask, but they can't ping each other
[01:36] <aftertaf> straight or crossover cable?
[01:36] <Somez> straight
[01:36] <Somez> patch
[01:36] <aftertaf> k
[01:36] <Somez> crossover is essential?
[01:36] <ekimus> Somez: www.netfilter.org has a good howto on that
[01:36] <Somez> thank you, I check that!
[01:36] <aftertaf> phew ekimus ;)
[01:37] <ekimus> Somez: not if the machines are not too old
[01:37] <aftertaf> i always forget which cable is which...
[01:37] <ekimus> aftertaf: what? netfilter is _the_ source for this kind of stuff
[01:37] <ekimus> :)
[02:03] <henk> can kubuntu live cd read ntfs?
[02:04] <fromoze> henk: i think no... but not sure... may it can be read but didn't write
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes it can henk
[02:05] <fromoze> but just read, no?
[02:05] <henk> Kamping_Kaiser do i need to run any tools for it to happen or is that enabled by default ?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> fromoze: yes, correct
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> henk: it might auto mount them, otherwise you have toby hand
[02:07] <henk> Kamping_Kaiser great that'll save me some time moving my media to a differnt filesystem
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, untill you try and save a playlist ;)
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> but live cd, so not an issue anyway
[02:19] <dell500> anyone here know how to get the accented e for a resume
[02:22] <dell500> nm, peace
[02:22] <fromoze> :=
[02:22] <aftertaf> alt 130
[02:23] <aftertaf> or the 2 key on a french kb
[02:23] <aftertaf> or copy paste this:     
[02:23] <aftertaf> :)
[02:23] <aftertaf> :p
[02:27] <nikkia> aftertaf: there's also alt-gr ; e   on non-US keyboards, too
[02:34] <fromoze> but, can you do that: ?
[02:34] <fromoze> -no copypaste please :P-
[02:36] <aftertaf> fromoze:  nope
[02:36] <aftertaf>  ? yep
[02:36] <ralph1> Does anyone know if a version 0.5.4 of KCheckGmail is avalible for horay. The current 0.5.0 is broken.
[02:36] <fromoze> cool ?! 
[02:39] <aftertaf> fromoze:  colr
[02:41] <fromoze> co ... spanish layout is powerful!!! aftertaf 
[02:41] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:41] <aftertaf> this is silly, stop it :)
[02:41] <aftertaf> ralph1:  really?
[02:42] <fromoze> d'accord, mais j'ai gagn :P
[02:43] <aftertaf>  suivre.... :)
[02:44] <ralph1> aftertaf: really. Gmail changed log in. This was fixed in either version 0.5.3a or version 0.5.4 do not remember which one. Anyway version 0.5.4 is current.
[02:45] <aftertaf> !info gmail
[02:45] <aftertaf> no not! denied :)
[02:45] <aftertaf> no bot
[02:45] <Kerk> hello peeps
[02:46] <Kerk> i need some help with compiling source code
[02:46] <ralph1> !info KCheckGmail
[02:46] <aftertaf> mail the maintainer... 
[02:46] <ubotu> kcheckgmail: (KDE systray application to check GMail accounts), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.5.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 580 kB
[02:47] <Kerk> hmmm
[02:47] <Kerk> !info kvirc
[02:47] <ubotu> kvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:2.1.3.1-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1385 kB, Installed size: 4204 kB
[02:49] <aftertaf> ralph1:  get the sources then... from df.net
[02:49] <aftertaf> sf.net
[02:55] <ralph1> aftertaf: thanks for the help was trying to avoid that as I have no devel packages in my hoary. Have been concentrating on getting it working and learning. Will add devel packages when breezy comes out.
[02:55] <marculo> hi, i installed nvidia drivers using apt-get and step-by-step described on ubuntuguide. how to completely uninstall it?
[02:56] <aftertaf> marculo:  run synaptic and remove 'em....
[02:57] <marculo> k, let's try
[02:59] <marculo> i just uninstall all that starts with nvidia* ?
[03:04] <aftertaf> yes, think so...
[03:04] <aftertaf> it'll not break anything that way.
[03:11] <nikkia> oh dear
[03:32] <marculo> how to exit X?
[03:35] <m-fox> K->Logout or Ctrl-Alt-Del
[03:39] <spiral> hi
[03:39] <jjesse> hello spiral 
[03:44] <nikkia> hmmmm
[04:00] <Sho_> What's the name of the kernel sources package?
[04:02] <aftertaf> linux-source-x-x-x
[04:02] <aftertaf> or thereabouts....
[04:02] <Sho_> thanks
[04:02] <aftertaf> !info linux-k7
[04:02] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[04:02] <aftertaf> !info linux-i686
[04:02] <aftertaf> :/
[04:04] <Kuolio> uuuuups :O
[04:05] <Kuolio> i meant to check what was on the topic, not to delete it
[04:05] <elmago> hi guys one question is the license from transgaming.net trustable?
[04:06] <lascar> which package do i install to configure fonts in GTK applications?
[04:09] <marculo> hmm
[04:10] <marculo> i did ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:10] <marculo> it switched me into dos-like mode
[04:10] <marculo> then i instaled nvidia drivers
[04:10] <marculo> that went succesfully, seems
[04:10] <marculo> then i "rebooted"
[04:10] <marculo> but it doesn't load the gui
[04:10] <marculo> it's still as dos-like mode
[04:11] <marculo> how to turn it back to gui mode?
[04:12] <lascar> the same thing happened to me!
[04:12] <lascar> verbatim
[04:12] <lascar> i reinstalled because i didn't have too much time on my hands
[04:13] <marculo> are u sayign to me ?
[04:13] <lascar> yeah
[04:13] <marculo> doh
[04:14] <marculo> anybody know how to fix?
[04:52] <dazjorz> heya
[04:53] <dazjorz> anyone knows a very light-weight FTP server ?
[04:53] <dazjorz> I've tried PureFTPD
[04:53] <dazjorz> it doesn't work ... the vhosts stuff
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> proftp?
[05:01] <dazjorz> already using that for another server
[05:10] <lascar> could someone please tell me the command to upgrade kde?
[05:10] <lascar> i think i've already done it, but i'm still getting a 3.4.0 printout
[05:11] <apokryphos> lascar: add the new repository, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:11] <apokryphos> !kde342
[05:11] <ubotu> kde342 is, like, at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
[05:13] <lascar> i did that before adding the repo, and installation went through and all
[05:13] <lascar> brb
[05:15] <deacon> Greetings all.  Does anyone here know how to change the "terminal" font that the X-server uses in KDE?
[05:15] <lascar> "Invalid operation dist" error
[05:15] <lascar> apokryphos: Invalid operation dist
[05:16] <apokryphos> lascar: you're not typing what I said
[05:16] <lascar> whoops, forgot the hyphen
[05:16] <lascar> ;)
[05:16] <lascar> et voila!
[05:17] <lascar> after the install, a simple logout should do the trick right?
[05:20] <frank23> yeah
[05:24] <deacon> Does anyone here know how to stop the KDE window manager from using that ugly monospace 9 on EVERY button, titlebar, taskbar, text-box, EVERYTHING?
[05:25] <Tm_T> deacon: kcontrol ->
[05:25] <Tm_T> you can control fonts ;p
[05:25] <deacon> ok, where is kcontrol?
[05:25] <Tm_T> btw I use monospace font as much as possible
[05:25] <Tm_T> K Control Centre
[05:25] <unintended> do you have 3.4.2?
[05:26] <Tm_T> um?
[05:26] <unintended> i asked deacon
[05:26] <deacon> yep.  I already tried that.  swapped all fonts to sans 12 point.  still getting monospace 9 on half the buttons and toolbars
[05:26] <lascar> apokryphos: Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:26] <lascar>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libkiten1_4%3a3.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb
[05:26] <lascar>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.2-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb
[05:26] <lascar> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[05:26] <lascar> any ideas?
[05:27] <apokryphos> hm
[05:27] <Tm_T> deacon: you mean GTK apps have that "ugly" font?
[05:27] <lascar> this was during the kdm unpacking/install
[05:27] <deacon> Fro example.  I am currently using X-Chat IRC to talk to you right now.  the message box I am typing in is displaying in monospace 9, as are the names on the right hand side, and the bittuns on top.
[05:28] <deacon> err, buttons
[05:28] <lascar> !kdm
[05:28] <ubotu> I don't know, lascar
[05:28] <Tm_T> deacon: yup, GTK
[05:28] <deacon> ok, how to I fix that.
[05:28] <apokryphos> lascar: try doing sudo apt-get upgrade first
[05:28] <deacon> monospace 9 is too small on this laptop mojnitor
[05:29] <Tm_T> deacon: 1) install qt-gtk engne or what it was
[05:29] <Tm_T> 2) use Kcontrol to change fon
[05:29] <Phantom^^> hey, can anyone tell me how to install java for web browsers 
[05:29] <deacon> ok, I'll try that
[05:29] <apokryphos> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:29] <Tm_T> !gtk-qt
[05:29] <ubotu> Install the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package to make your GTK apps more bearable in KDE. Apply settings in KControl, and restart GTK apps.
[05:29] <Tm_T> =)
[05:30] <Tm_T> ubotu: thank you
[05:30] <ubotu> bitte, Tm_T
[05:30] <lascar> Tm_T: thanx, i actually needed that too
[05:30] <Tm_T> =)
[05:30] <Tm_T> np
[05:32] <lascar> apokryphos: already done
[05:32] <apokryphos> lascar: and didn't help?
[05:32] <deacon> Hmmm
[05:33] <unintended> !sources.list
[05:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, unintended
[05:33] <deacon> that didn't help.  GTK programs such as Synaptic still show monospace 9 on all interface elements
[05:34] <lascar> apokryphos: no
[05:34] <Phantom^^> thanks for the help with the java now i can play yahoo chess :D
[05:34] <apokryphos> lascar: can you pastebin the full error output then?
[05:35] <lascar> sure
[05:35] <lascar> give me the url
[05:35] <lascar> but before that
[05:35] <lascar> let me reboot
[05:36] <deacon> brb
[05:44] <glDaher> hi, I wanna ask if I must uninstall gnome to get kubuntu running or not..
[05:45] <apokryphos> glDaher: not necessary, no
[05:45] <unintended> no
[05:45] <lascar> apokryphos: all i needed was a reboot
[05:45] <lascar> thanx again
[05:45] <glDaher> on the kubuntu faq it says this: "... installing Ubuntu and adding the KDE packages (and removing the Gnome packages)"
[05:46] <lascar> i'm off two the first day of my 2nd year at rutgers
[05:46] <lascar> till then
[05:46] <glDaher> then perhaps someone needs to edit that.
[05:46] <apokryphos> glDaher: to install kubuntu.... sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <apokryphos> that won't remove any gnome stuff
[05:46] <glDaher> yeah, I know this should work this way, but thought the faq is wierd
[05:46] <apokryphos> glDaher: which kubuntu faq?
[05:46] <glDaher> thanks apokryphos, anywhere I should report this?
[05:46] <glDaher> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[05:47] <glDaher> first question
[05:48] <apokryphos> glDaher: no, that's just telling you what *Kubuntu* is
[05:48] <apokryphos> i.e. the ISO
[05:48] <glDaher> oh right, I thought I read that twice, and I was like ---> o.0 ... ;) cool then, thanks
[05:59] <marculo> hello, i uninstalled the packages in kynoptics that started with nvidia* (since i installed them using atp-get) and installed the nvidia drivers (from www.nvidia.com) after have closed the X using ctr-alt-backspace. installation was succesfull, but after reboot, kubuntu is still in shell mode.. any way to fix?
[05:59] <marculo> probably i uninstalled something i shouldn't do?
[06:08] <apokryphos> [K] ubuntu got best distro by TUX issue, congrats!
[06:08] <apokryphos> KDE best DE by a 3:1 margin :D
[06:09] <apokryphos> XMMS best player -- bah!
[06:09] <seth_k> eww
[06:09] <seth_k> XMMS < all
[06:10] <apokryphos> Can't believe people still use that, tbh. :)
[06:10] <apokryphos> KWrite came in higher than Kate -- that's an odd one.
[06:12] <apokryphos> ...and Thunderbird doubling all other email clients (KMail at second).
[06:13] <seth_k> I use KMail on laptop, it's lightweight. Thunderbird on desktop
[06:13] <seth_k> KMail still lacks polish
[06:13] <seth_k> Tux isn't a good indicator of the population as a whole though, it should be called "Linux 4 Noobs & We Heart KDE Magazine"
[06:13] <apokryphos> heh
[06:13] <nikkia> seth, there are a FEW media players that xmms beats, just
[06:14] <nikkia> eg, mpg123 :)
[06:14] <apokryphos> yeah, still gives an indication of what those like
[06:14] <seth_k> haha nikkia, well played ;)
[06:14] <nikkia> urgh, colours == evil
[06:14] <apokryphos> too bright for my old eyes
[06:14] <nikkia> nick highlighting meant that line was green on black, please desist!
[06:14] <apokryphos> Firefox beat Opera (which came third) 10 to 1, there
[06:14] <seth_k> ackk, I forgot I was on windows!
[06:15] <nikkia> apokryphos: not surprising
[06:15] <seth_k> I miss Konversation :(
[06:15] <apokryphos> Firefox has come and taken the limelight
[06:15] <nikkia> seth_k: use kvirc, then you can have a common setup between both :P
[06:15] <apokryphos> even though I think Opera is more worthy :D
[06:15] <nikkia> apokryphos: its not just that, but opera has some serious 'wtf-ism's
[06:15] <apokryphos> (especially for new users)
[06:15] <apokryphos> hehe
[06:15] <nikkia> apokryphos: the keyboard shortcuts, for example
[06:15] <apokryphos> they're different, yes
[06:16] <nikkia> it took me about 3 days to track down where 'next-tab' and 'previous-tab' were
[06:16] <apokryphos> all easily changeable, of course, but it doesn't help that they're different to the browser world
[06:16] <nikkia> apokryphos: except that firefox's conform to standards :P
[06:17] <apokryphos> still, Opera has been there for longer, no?
[06:17] <nikkia> longer than firefox, yes
[06:17] <nikkia> however, that doesn't justify using non-standard keyboard shortcuts
[06:17] <apokryphos> who made the standard?
[06:18] <nikkia> apokryphos: a large chunk of them date back to apple and IBM, actually
[06:18] <nikkia> good old CUAA (now just CUA, i think)
[06:18] <apokryphos> they made shortcuts for changing tabs?
[06:18] <nikkia> apokryphos: thats also where things like ctrl-x,c,v come from
[06:18] <apokryphos> it uses those, surely
[06:18] <nikkia> apokryphos: no, the tabs keys i don't remember where they came from
[06:19] <nikkia> but stuff like ctrl-d == bookmark is *old*
[06:19] <nikkia> ctrl-t is a wtfism
[06:19] <apokryphos> what proper browser had tabs though before Opera?
[06:19] <nikkia> apokryphos: iCab?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: if you like Opera, Richard Stallman will haunt your drems and sing the Free Software Song at you (believe me, you don't want to hear RMS singing ) ;-)
[06:19] <apokryphos> I do admit that they should, regardless, change now.
[06:19] <apokryphos> hehe
[06:20] <nikkia> thoreauputic: actually, it'd be bad enough having RMS in your dreams, period
[06:20] <thoreauputic> nikkia: heheh :)
[06:20] <nikkia> especially, if like most high IQ people, you have full senses in your dreams
[06:20] <apokryphos> (on another note, shouldn't we disable colours in this chan? They're annoying)
[06:20] <deacon> ok, bck.  sorry.  had to reboot
[06:20] <nikkia> (he stinks :)
[06:20] <apokryphos> heh
[06:21] <apokryphos> I find it odd that people genuinely think that Opera is ugly
[06:21] <ToyMan> hi all
[06:21] <nikkia> apokryphos: bits of it are
[06:21] <apokryphos> It's so nice and slick
[06:21] <nikkia> apokryphos: the windecs on popups, for example
[06:21] <ToyMan> is there a way to log which programs are doing outbound on port 21 from my own box?
[06:21] <apokryphos> has cool features; beautiful ticks, extra lil' things that I think... "wow, they got that right"
[06:21] <ToyMan> I have an isp that's blocking me and telling me i'm trying to access their ftp more than 10 times in ten seconds
[06:21] <nikkia> ToyMan: yes, its called 'ps -aux | fgrep ftp'
[06:21] <apokryphos> nikkia: what's wrong with them?
[06:22] <nikkia> apokryphos: they're drawn by opera, and thus don't match your WM
[06:22] <nikkia> ToyMan: ah, going out to some other port 21
[06:22] <apokryphos> ToyMan: you can use netstat to check what's taking what port
[06:22] <nikkia> ToyMan: lsof will show tcp connections
[06:22] <nikkia> ToyMan: or you can use netstat -p
[06:22] <deacon> apokryphos, I can't speak for on Kubuntu, as I use firefox.  But on XP Opera is ugly, cluttered and slow.
[06:22] <ToyMan> yes, but does it log?
[06:22] <nikkia> both probably need to be run as root unless the process is running as you
[06:22] <nikkia> ToyMan: no, you'll have to write a script for that
[06:22] <apokryphos> nikkia: Integration isn't a strength. True. :)
[06:23] <nikkia> ToyMan: you could also use tcpdump to do it, but it won't tell you WHAT, just that its happening
[06:23] <apokryphos> nikkia: I still prefer the look (by a long margin) to Firefox GTK
[06:23] <apokryphos> deacon: Interesting. I think the contrary on all counts :)  (even on Windows)
[06:23] <ToyMan> hmmm. ok, thanks
[06:23] <ToyMan> anyone here using nvu at all?
[06:24] <ToyMan> that's the only prg on the linooks side that I could see causing a problem
[06:24] <nikkia> ToyMan: tbh, if your ISP is blocking you, then just netstat -p might give you a hint, as you'll probably have loads of SYN_WAIT or FIN_WAIT state sockets open :)
[06:24] <nikkia> ToyMan: nvu is most likely your problem, yes
[06:24] <nikkia> and no, i don't use it, its a buggy POS
[06:24] <deacon> Not that I don't HAVE Opera, just simply to make sure I have a spare browser.  But I just prefer firefox overall.  But then i suppose beauty is indeed in the eye of the behiolder.
[06:24] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I use the Pinball FF theme, and reduce the toolbars etc to one line - it's quite clean that way (don't like the default theme)
[06:24] <ToyMan> k, thanks nikkia 
[06:25] <apokryphos> deacon: I generally tend to disagree when people say that; beauty is more intersubjective than subjective
[06:25] <deacon> rofl
[06:25] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: I don't much like it either
[06:25] <apokryphos> deacon: yes, that's me telling you what's beautiful :P
[06:25] <deacon> well, gotta go make lunch.  Just stopped by to say that the font fix DID work, I just needed to reboot.
[06:26] <apokryphos> j/k; Not really; I'm just saying that it's not as subjective as people think.
[06:26] <deacon> so thanks to TM, even if he isn't here now
[06:26] <apokryphos> deacon: ok, see ya
[06:26] <deacon> CU later
[06:26] <nikkia> right, i'm going to head out for a few minutes to try and pick up some bargains from netto :P
[06:26] <nikkia> (they have guitar stands for sale this week!!!)
[06:26] <apokryphos> nikkia: only the best shop in the *world*
[06:27] <apokryphos> you can buy yoghurts and stuff ro 8p!
[06:27] <nikkia> apokryphos: no, its a lousy shop, except when they have strange and puzzling items cheap
[06:27] <nikkia> apokryphos: such as logitech keyboards for a tenner
[06:27] <apokryphos> nikkia: everything is cheap
[06:27] <apokryphos> and for lunchtime, it's the best possible shop 
[06:27] <apokryphos> (it was just pretty far from oru school)
[06:28] <apokryphos> still, there was stiff competition for lunchtimes
[06:28] <apokryphos> "Sam's Chicken" had 2-for2 -- 2 beautiful chicken-burgers, and 2 fries, for 2 bucks! =)
[06:30] <Fraeon> Maybe I'll just wait for the final Breezy release
[06:41] <marculo> who help me uninstalling the nvidia kernel module?
[06:41] <marculo> X is fucked, i can't start it =\
[06:45] <marculo> nobody know?
[06:47] <marculo> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version 1.0.7174. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.
[06:47] <marculo> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
[06:47] <marculo> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[06:47] <marculo> anybody have a clue?
[06:48] <_pierre> Hello?
[06:48] <ubuntu> this distribution just sux.
[06:49] <_pierre> Hello
[06:49] <_pierre> anybody home?
[06:49] <marculo> well, lol.
[06:49] <marculo> that didn't help much
[06:49] <_pierre> ???
[06:49] <apokryphos> Saying "hello?" "???" is hardly going to help
[06:49] <apokryphos> if you have a question, state it. If you don't get a response, then fine.
[06:49] <ztonzy> "hello"
[06:49] <ztonzy> :D
[06:50] <apokryphos> marculo: for non-kde-related issues #ubuntu is really the better place
[06:50] <_pierre> Ok I will dispense with common courtesy. I have a question
[06:51] <_pierre> I am trying to use my konquerer browser and I keep getting a message that I have my cookies off. I dont. but i still get that message.
[06:51] <_pierre> What can I do?
[06:51] <ztonzy> apokryphos, hey
[06:52] <apokryphos> _pierre: did you just upgrade or something? What version of KDE?
[06:52] <apokryphos> ztonzy: hola! :) How's it going?
[06:52] <m0ns00n> :-D
[06:52] <m0ns00n> Howdihow
[06:52] <ztonzy> apokryphos, good, thanks for asking
[06:52] <_pierre> 3.4
[06:52] <apokryphos> m0ns00n, P3L|C4N0: Hi!
[06:52] <_pierre> Im using KUBUNTU
[06:52] <apokryphos> ztonzy: how's everything going?
[06:52] <apokryphos> _pierre: try upgrading to 3.4.2
[06:53] <ztonzy> apokryphos, started my internship today, doing plumbing :)
[06:53] <_pierre> Just got this ISO from the website YESTERDAY it shoule be up to date right?
[06:53] <apokryphos> ztonzy: cool =). 
[06:53] <apokryphos> _pierre: a hoary one? No, it won't have 3.4.2
[06:54] <ztonzy> apokryphos, yes
[06:54] <_pierre> yeah hoary. How do i get the latest version?
[06:54] <apokryphos> !kde342
[06:54] <ubotu> well, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
[06:56] <m0ns00n> brb
[06:56] <_pierre> THANKS!
[06:57] <jatos> hi
[06:59] <apokryphos> jatos: hi
[07:03] <dazjorz> anybody here knows about a very good light-weight FTP server ?
[07:05] <redguy> pure-ftpd?
[07:06] <redguy> not that I ever used it :-)
[07:07] <ztonzy> !breezy
[07:07] <ztonzy> hmmm
[07:08] <ztonzy> why did I get PM'ed by the bot ?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> ztonzy: if it's more than a few lines it goes to pm
[07:08] <apokryphos> Nalioth: many ;P
[07:09] <dazjorz> Redguy: I've tried Pure-ftpd. It's not working for me.
[07:09] <dazjorz> !tell me about breezy
[07:09] <Nalioth> dang, ubotu gets around, dont it?
[07:09] <ztonzy> thoreauputic, ah ok
[07:10] <apokryphos> Nalioth: yeah, got cafuego to get 'im in here as soon as I saw the usefulness
[07:11] <Nalioth> at least it's a useful bot
[07:12] <dazjorz> anyone here ever used vsftpd ?
[07:12] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[07:12] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, redguy
[07:13] <apokryphos> Nalioth: Indeed. Have you tried out supybots?
[07:13] <apokryphos> yeouch
[07:13] <Nalioth> i have no need for a droid
[07:15] <apokryphos> they don't permit /msg ; I ask in #supybot why.... no answer. They're "help" is anything but helpful too, unfortunately.
[07:15] <Nalioth> apokryphos: you mean like #debian?
[07:16] <apokryphos> no, as in you cannot /msg the bot
[07:16] <apokryphos> Seems pretty stupid to me
[07:16] <Nalioth> apokryphos: which bot?
[07:16] <dazjorz> someone here who has ever used vsftpd
[07:16] <apokryphos> Nalioth: supybots; susehelp one, for example
[07:17] <dazjorz> or any other good ftp server that can be used for probably just one user
[07:17] <dazjorz> Nvm, i'm gonna reinstall Ubuntu anyways.
[07:17] <Nalioth> apokryphos: ah. well ubotu answers up
[07:17] <apokryphos> blootbots are infinitely superior, without a doubt
[07:17] <Nalioth> !botsnack
[07:17] <ubotu> thanks nalioth :)
[07:17] <Nalioth> dazjorz: what did you do to get banned?
[07:17] <apokryphos> dazjorz: please stop asking that in here
[07:18] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Me and my friend were talking offtopic, Seveas asked to stop, I did, my friend didn't so I put him on ignore
[07:18] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Later, I asked twice how to deignore him and Seveas put me on +q
[07:18] <apokryphos> is it me, or does your story change slightly each time? :)
[07:18] <Nalioth> apokryphos: it's your bad memory, lol
[07:18] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Then when I asked him, after about an hour, why I still had the q
[07:18] <dazjorz> and then he banned me
[07:18] <dazjorz> apokryphos: It doesn't change slightly each time
[07:18] <apokryphos> dazjorz: last time you said you nearly got banned for shouting
[07:18] <apokryphos> dazjorz: and ended up nearly getting banned in here too
[07:18] <Nalioth> dazjorz: he will unban you probably later today
[07:19] <dazjorz> apokryphos: Yes, the second time I asked how to deignore someone in capitals.
[07:19] <dazjorz> Nalioth: That was now, 2 weeks ago.
[07:19] <Nalioth> dazjorz: wow you must have hurt seveas' ears
[07:20] <jefis> how to disable boot scripts on startup like 0dns-down and time synchroning?
[07:20] <dazjorz> Nalioth: And as I'm back in Ubuntu now, along with my server, I would like to talk in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu since the last is mainly about KDE...
[07:20] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Though, I've send Seveas a memo and some PM's (he's called Seveaz now) but he still won't answer and won't do anything against it
[07:21] <Nalioth> dazjorz: usually (with most ops) the more you pester them about your 'punishment', the longer it will be
[07:21] <apokryphos> dazjorz: the fact that you keep mentioning this in here is getting annoying, too.
[07:22] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Although, He's rejecting memo's, and I've just sent him 3 pm's at the same time, containing a question can I be unbanned, a notice that it happened a week ago... And nothing else but that
[07:23] <Spudchat> hi everyone...im new to ubuntu and just decided to run kubunutu...they are basically the same right?
[07:23] <apokryphos> Spudchat: same base. Ubuntu uses GNOME; Kubuntu uses KDE.
[07:24] <dazjorz> apokryphos: It's very unfair! I really want to go to #ubuntu, but because Seveaz doesn't like me (he said it before), he bans me forever...
[07:24] <Nalioth> dazjorz: quit pestering him and #kubuntu
[07:24] <Spudchat> allright good..im sick of gnome
[07:24] <dazjorz> apokryphos: What do you think anyone else would've got for that
[07:24] <dazjorz> Nalioth: But...... argh
[07:24] <Spudchat> and wanted to use fedora core four but they dont support my wireless card :(
[07:25] <apokryphos> dazjorz: for shouting? A ban. And you're lucky you haven't got one here yet. :)
[07:25] <Nalioth> dazjorz: nobody in #kubuntu can help you with dealings in #ubuntu
[07:25] <Spudchat> allright time to go install it :) be back from taht machine soon
[08:07] <bt> hello, I have tons of email in mbox format (from pine). Do you know if I can use them directly in thunderbird or Kmail?
[08:09] <Nalioth> bt i dont think so
[08:09] <Nalioth> bt use "mail" from a terminal 
[08:11] <thoreauputic> there might be a way - with sylphed you can use "incorporate from spool" /var/mail
[08:11] <thoreauputic> *sylpheed
[08:11] <bt> Nalioth, thats an idea :) Im trying to get a permanent fix, I wouldnt like to use "mail" regularly
[08:12] <Nalioth> bt: there is a way (complicated, if you ask me) to get your mail sent from the system to a mechanism (fetchmail or something) that your t-bird can read
[08:12] <thoreauputic> bt: there might be an option like the one I mentioned - check in kmail, it does most of these things
[08:12] <Nalioth> bt: but i'd ask in #ubuntu, if you can't get an answer here
[08:15] <bt> I'll check the sylpheed solution
[08:15] <bt> I tried the other day, cannot remember if kmail or thunderbird and they could convert one by one, but i've got more than 400 so...
[08:16] <Nalioth> bt, the easiest way would be to have the system use a mta that t-bird or whatever could access
[08:16] <dazjorz> bit fast question 
[08:16] <dazjorz> how do I print something from Linux to a printer that's shared on a Windows machine ?
[08:17] <dazjorz> someone has a guide for that ?
[08:17] <dazjorz> !print
[08:17] <ubotu> dazjorz: Are you on ritalin?
[08:17] <dazjorz> !netprint
[08:17] <ubotu> No idea, dazjorz
[08:17] <dazjorz> !windowsprint
[08:17] <ubotu> dazjorz: What?
[08:17] <dazjorz> uhm
[08:17] <Distro^Junkie> its been several months since I've used kubuntu so kinda outta the circle of information... can someone direct me to a site for tutorials after you get kubuntu installed ?
[08:17] <Nalioth> Distro^Junkie: any KDE help site will be useful, also wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:18] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OldFrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-4418cd7d615ef8671298999da334d7f7b8d3b8ae
[08:18] <thoreauputic> might help
[08:18] <Nalioth> dazjorz: that URL i just sent Distro^Junkie will help you too
[08:18] <bt> Nalioth, but at some point you need to move the mail from the mta storage to a local folder, and then it gets into mbox or maildir, correct?
[08:18] <dazjorz> Nalioth: Thanks a lot
[08:18] <blackflag> ?
[08:18] <Distro^Junkie> thanx Nalioth 
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Nalioth: that URL is the answer to the !docs command IIRC
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !docs
[08:19] <ubotu> I guess docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:19] <thoreauputic> yup
[08:19] <Nalioth> bt: once you get your system to xfer the mail to a t-bird friendly mta, you can set t-bird to remove mail from server, blah
[08:21] <bt> Nalioth, got that! what I want to convert is _old_ email, not the new one coming. I probably won't use even a local mta
[08:22] <Nalioth> bt: i know how "I" would do it, but it's kinda fscked and jerry rigged
[08:31] <viyyer> I have a kubuntu install. I am not able to use kppp as it freezes when one tries to dial. 
[08:31] <viyyer> but wvdial works fine. 
[08:32] <viyyer> is this a bug ?
[08:35] <Spudchat> wow this kubuntu is really nice
[08:35] <Spudchat> kde is awesome
[08:37] <Nalioth> isnt it, tho?
[08:38] <Distro^Junkie> how do I go about updating amarok to 1.3 ?
[08:39] <Spudchat> i was usin regular ubuntu and went looking for something else
[08:39] <Spudchat> i found it right here in kde
[08:41] <jefis> can someone help me with translucenty in kubuntu?, i know i need nvidia drivers, but how to make it work faster?
[08:42] <jefis> If you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure
[08:42] <jefis>        you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel
[08:42] <jefis>        installed on your system. If you specified a separate
[08:42] <jefis>        output directory using either the "KBUILD_OUTPUT" or
[08:42] <jefis>        the "O" KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this
[08:42] <jefis>        directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with
[08:42] <jefis>        the appropriate nvidia-installer command line option.
[08:42] <jefis> ups
[08:42] <jefis> this is the error when i'm trying to install nvidia
[08:42] <Nalioth> jefis, please dont paste in here. use a pastebin or #flood
[08:43] <jefis> sorry
[08:43] <jefis> anyone have any ideas? ;)
[08:44] <frank23> jefis you need to install your kernel sources.... or just install the driver package from synaptic/kynaptic
[08:44] <jefis> i have it installed
[08:44] <jefis> it's in /usr/src/linux
[08:45] <frank23> jefis how did you install them?
[08:45] <jefis> with kynaptic
[08:45] <jefis> when archive is in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[08:45] <jefis> tar -xjvf linux.xxxx.bz2
[08:45] <jefis> mv linux-source2.6.10 linux
[08:45] <jefis> :)
[08:47] <frank23> you don't need that... just install the appropriate linux-headers package
[08:47] <jefis> ok
[08:47] <frank23> jefis: I think that's all you need
[08:52] <senator32> i need some help getting my wifi working
[08:53] <Nalioth> !docs
[08:53] <ubotu> hmm... docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:53] <Nalioth> senator32: try at the above URL
[08:53] <Nalioth> senator32: or try in #ubuntu
[08:54] <senator32> well the card is reconized but it is non configurable in WiFi manager
[08:54] <Spudchat> is there a file i should edit for repositories?
[08:54] <Nalioth> !tell Spudchat about repos
[08:54] <frank23> senator32: the wifimanager in kcontrol? I never got that to works
[08:55] <Spudchat> ty
[08:55] <senator32> oh
[08:55] <senator32> i can see the interface in ifconfig -a
[08:55] <senator32> but i dont know the commands to set it up with the SSID and the 128 bit wep
[08:56] <frank23> senator32: I used network-admin from the package gnome-system-tools to setup my wifi card
[08:56] <senator32> ill try that
[08:56] <frank23> senator32: you can setup wep with it too
[08:57] <bt> Nalioth, I think I found the solution to the mbox issue. In thunderbird I can just copy the mbox into the storage folder and they are recognised. Not sure if it will take double the space as some other files with different extensions are created as well, but at least I will be able to get my old email
[08:57] <senator32> ah im ganna go get it now
[08:57] <senator32> thx
[08:57] <Nalioth> bt: yes, that is what i was gonna suggest
[08:57] <senator32> hmm cant seem to find that in synaptic
[08:58] <frank23> senator32: its in main
[08:58] <frank23> !info gnome-system-tools
[08:58] <ubotu> gnome-system-tools: (Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME), section gnome, is extra. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 985 kB, Installed size: 5136 kB
[08:59] <senator32> really
[08:59] <senator32> hmmm
[08:59] <Nalioth> senator32: you should be able to just run "network-admin"
[08:59] <senator32> didn't work
[08:59] <senator32> weird
[08:59] <senator32> im in kde is that an issue
[08:59] <frank23> I'm in kde too
[08:59] <senator32> weird
[09:00] <senator32> i dont have any network-admin
[09:00] <frank23> well you need to install gnome-system-tools to get network-admin
[09:00] <senator32> k
[09:00] <dazjorz> how to create a driver disk ?
[09:03] <dazjorz> how to format a isk
[09:05] <senator32> ok another question...i have set a unix root pass in console like normal...evrrything works great, except that when i try and put it in the p[ass in control center and network manager the system just sits there and wont let me in as admin,,,,any ideas
[09:05] <frank23> does your user's pass work?
[09:05] <dazjorz> how to fast format a disk ?
[09:05] <dazjorz> it was like
[09:06] <dazjorz> fscreate or something right ?
[09:06] <Nalioth> (k)ubuntu doesnt use root accounts for things
[09:06] <frank23> !sudo
[09:06] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:06] <senator32> welll actually i know its bad practice but its the same pass
[09:06] <senator32> should i change it
[09:06] <frank23> senator32: it shouldn't matter
[09:07] <Budda> wich ports are used by apt?
[09:07] <senator32> k
[09:07] <senator32> i gtg thanks for the help guya
[09:07] <Nalioth> Budda: 80
[09:07] <Nalioth> Budda: 21
[09:07] <frank23> kcontrol has a problem going into administrator mode. It's better to run sudo kcontrol 
[09:09] <Budda> i can't connect to any apt server and i doesn't know why...anyone got a solution?
[09:10] <Nalioth> Budda: it may be down
[09:11] <Budda> would you try apt-get update and send me your sources.list?
[09:11] <Nalioth> !tell Budda about repos
[09:15] <apokryphos> Budda: if the error persists, please paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/apt/sources.list and then link it in here
[09:17] <Budda> atm i've got another problem:
[09:18] <Budda> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock nicht bekommen - open ----> E: Can't get Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open
[09:18] <Nalioth> Budda: you can only run one instance of apt at a time, or you need to start apt with "sudo"
[09:20] <Budda> ok got it thx
[09:20] <Budda> so here's my sources.list
[09:20] <Budda> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1798
[09:24] <apokryphos> Budda: close any other instances of apt/synaptic/kynaptic etc
[09:25] <apokryphos> sources look fine
[09:27] <kayfelix> im running a ./configure script for an ac'97 realtek audio codec and its saying "checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist."
[09:27] <kayfelix> how do I install it?
[09:27] <kayfelix> help greatly appreciated, kubuntu works a treat - except for the sound not working.!
[09:28] <apokryphos> kayfelix: you left before I could mention it, but #ubuntu is better for non-kde-related questions
[09:28] <Nalioth> kayfelix: you're better off asking in #ubuntu first, then coming here
[09:28] <kayfelix> oh right, someone just sent me here - sorry but I had to get the hoover, thats why i left.
[09:28] <apokryphos> kayfelix: you hadn't stated your problem yet, that's why. 8)
[09:29] <kayfelix> its simple - i think - i need to get the kernel-source somehow - isnt that simple....
[09:29] <apokryphos> kernel source you get from apt
[09:29] <Nalioth> kayfelix: it is simple, but i dont knwo the command line sequence, and there are users in #ubuntu who do
[09:29] <kayfelix> rightyo, thanks nalioth, i shall ask there
[09:53] <wincide> hi all :) i'm looking for a tomcat server, but i have not found any :S .. so i can't upload a site which needs tomcat to run .. does someone knows something about? thx :)
[10:06] <keith_> i need help with my KDE control panel
[10:06] <keith_> when i go to any section, particularly network settings, the one i need to be in
[10:06] <keith_> it loads fine
[10:06] <keith_> but when i hit administrator mode
[10:06] <keith_> and enter my password
[10:06] <keith_> it always goes back to the homepage for the control panel
[10:06] <keith_> control center*
[10:08] <frank23> keith_: yeah... kcontrol has problems. try sudo kcontrol to start it
[10:08] <keith_> k thanks
[10:08] <keith_> frank- heres one last problem for you
[10:09] <keith_> im not in network settings under sudo
[10:09] <keith_> im trying to enable my wireless access point
[10:09] <keith_> im in college and the wireless networks are up but not yet connected to the internet
[10:09] <keith_> so i want to be ready when they do activate it
[10:09] <keith_> i set it to automatic, check turn on automatically when computer starts
[10:09] <keith_> and it basicaly enables for 1/3 a second
[10:09] <keith_> disables again
[10:09] <keith_> and doesnt remember my settings
[10:09] <frank23> ... and the turn on automatically check doesn't stick?
[10:10] <frank23> yeah I had those problems too... hopefully the next version of kubuntu will fix all that!
[10:10] <frank23> well you need to install gnome-system-tools to get network-admin
[10:10] <frank23> I used network-admin to setup wireless
[10:10] <frank23> and it worked!
[10:10] <keith_> ok let me package search it
[10:11] <keith_> ok dling and installing now
[10:12] <keith_> ok where in the menu will that gnome system tools be now?
[10:12] <frank23> I don't think it will be in the menu at all
[10:13] <frank23> run network-config from console
[10:13] <keith_> so what command should i run/add
[10:13] <frank23> run network-admin
[10:13] <keith_> network-config does not do anything
[10:13] <frank23> it's network-admin, sorry
[10:13] <keith_> network admin works
[10:13] <keith_> awesome!
[10:13] <keith_> imma make a shortcut for that...
[10:14] <keith_> now how do i scan access points
[10:14] <keith_> easily and successfully
[10:15] <frank23> not sure
[10:15] <frank23> I knew my ssid
[10:15] <keith_> k well thanks for the help so far...... im out for a bit
[10:15] <Nalioth> iwlist, it should be
[10:15] <Nalioth> oh well
[10:16] <frank23> too late ;0
[10:17] <frank23> Nalioth: are you in Houston?
[10:17] <Nalioth> just like my IP says
[10:17] <Nalioth> complete with nasty heat
[10:17] <Nalioth> and horrible humidity
[10:18] <frank23> Nalioth: did people start to arrive from New-Orleans?
[10:18] <Nalioth> they've been arriving
[10:29] <kayfelix> I know I've already asked, but maybe there's someone new in here now with the answer. I have a sound problem. Everything is there, running, looking peachy... but no sound. System beep works over the speakers though, so im pretty sure HW is all setup and working. Its an AC'97 Realtek onboard soundcard on an ASROCK K7S41GX mainboard, im running kubuntu and to be honest, am completely at a loss as to what to do next.
[10:29] <Nalioth> kayfelix: you might try #kde
[10:30] <kayfelix> ;) oki gonna give it a go
[10:35] <frank23> kayfelix: try cat somefile > /dev/dsp to see if your sound driver works
[10:47] <Spudchat> should i follow the directions for ubuntu regarding installing my nvidia driver?
[10:47] <Nalioth> Spudchat: yes. kubuntu is ubuntu is kubuntu....
[10:48] <Nalioth> Spudchat: the difference is KDE and gnome as default DMs
[10:48] <Spudchat> lol ok
[10:48] <_mike> hi, im trying to install the latest version of the gimp... but it says my version of GLIB isnt updated either...what do i do to remove the old glib and get the new one
[10:49] <Nalioth> _mike: that might break your system
[10:49] <Nalioth> have you looked in backports?
[10:49] <_mike> ...huh?
[10:50] <_mike> backports?
[10:50] <_mike> Im still kinda new to linux
[10:50] <Nalioth> !backports
[10:50] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:50] <Nalioth> !repos
[10:50] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:51] <Nalioth> mike i'd advise you to read both of these websites b4 you proceed
[10:51] <Nalioth> or all 3, even
[10:51] <_mike> ...wut?
[10:51] <_mike> well
[10:52] <Nalioth> _mike: the 3 URLs ubotu has just mentioned.
[10:52] <_mike> all i wanna do is upgrade my gimp/glib...i cant do that without "breaking my system"?
[10:52] <Nalioth> correct
[10:53] <Nalioth> glib is one of the foundation blocks of ubuntu
[10:53] <_mike> im using KDE tho..
[10:53] <Nalioth> you change it, nothing works (well, if at all)
[10:53] <Nalioth> ubuntu is kubuntu.
[10:53] <_mike> im running hoary 5.04 with KDE
[10:54] <Nalioth> ok. read those URLs
[10:54] <frank23> _mike: basically to get the latest version of gimp, either use backports or compile from source
[10:54] <_mike> im trying to compile from source, but it detects my glib is at 2.63 and it needs to be at like 2.8 sumthing
[10:54] <Nalioth> what he said, lol
[10:55] <Nalioth> _mike: are there features in the latest gimp that are earthshaking?
[10:56] <_mike> i dont care if they arent that good Nalioth, i dont like this old gimp and i want the new one
[10:57] <Nalioth> _mike: i just put gimp 2.2.4 on my box from source, it gave me no glib errors
[10:57] <Nalioth> _mike: i'm running hoary, also
[10:57] <_mike> im trying to get 2.2.8...latest version
[10:58] <_mike> how would i get it through backports
[10:58] <Nalioth> _mike: you might have to try a step lower until you get one that doesnt complain about the glib
[10:58] <Nalioth> _mike: read those URLs
[10:58] <Nalioth> _mike: and youll have access to all kinds of updated software
[10:59] <_mike> i dont get sum parts of the site...
[10:59] <_mike> sorry if im a bit newby but linux is complicated
[11:00] <frank23> _mike: there is alot to learn because it's different. Once you get going, it's easy
[11:00] <Nalioth> !tell _mike about backports
[11:00] <Nalioth> !tell _mike about repos
[11:00] <_mike> ok
[11:01] <Nalioth> _mike: you got the URLs and inst in a priv msg window
[11:01] <_mike> ok
[11:01] <_mike> thanx
[11:04] <_mike> thanks alot nalioth, im able to do it through synaptic now
[11:05] <yonkel> anyone use a dell inspiron 6000 or have experience with it?
[11:05] <Nalioth> _mike: enjoy your new toys
[11:05] <_mike> thanks
[11:58] <spiritz> is there any kde 3.5 package available somewhere?
[11:59] <Tm_T> well, there's no KDE 3.5 yet
[12:00] <Tm_T> it's not released
[12:00] <yonkel> i am on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop and i installed kubuntu successfully. i can't seem to get x to start however. can someone help?
[12:01] <teprrr> :)
[12:01] <teprrr> there's alpha version :)
[12:01] <spiritz> yes sure; But maybe there is beta package.. My computer is kind of old and konstruct takes ages to compile
[12:01] <teprrr> Tm_T, you got into someone's blog, btw ;)
[12:02] <Tm_T> wat?!
[12:02] <Tm_T> where?
[12:02] <Tm_T> teprrr: and hullo :)
[12:02] <_mike> hey nalioth, wuts the pastebin for the repositories again?
[12:02] <teprrr> hullo?
[12:02] <teprrr> can't find it atm, just a minute..
[12:02] <Tm_T> hello =)
[12:04] <teprrr> ah, hello hello ;)
[12:04] <frank23> !repos
[12:04] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:04] <teprrr> duh, no luck :/
[12:04] <teprrr> somewhere saw a quote of yours :)
[12:04] <Tm_T> oh
[12:04] <TheMagnumMunkey> thanx ubotu