[12:04] jbailey: yeah, he was in the channel a day or two ago [12:04] he doesn't need much mentoring, though [12:08] Right, he made it through being a DD, so it shouldn't be much.' === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-doc === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106001217da6aab.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:59] hi all [03:03] Heya === rmflagg [n=ouaejk@rrcs-24-123-40-148.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:08] Does anyone know what could have happened when the "Default" or "Last" setting in GDM no longer functions? GDM also no longer asks me if I want to change my default setting. === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:00] are the planet.gnome rss feeds down for anyone else? === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:24] how the hell do I commit to our svn server again? [05:39] The Ubuntu-docs builds fine and appears to be reasonably correct. [05:40] The kde directory doesn't build at all. I'm getting XML errors, and there's two trivial bugs in the rules file. [05:40] Right now, it's doing a make -C kde/, which isn't needed. [05:40] By policy you have to be starting in the kde directory. [05:40] hmm [05:40] our main kde person has apparently jumped ship (Sean Wheller) [05:41] I can spend tomorrow doing cleanup work on it. [05:41] that would be great [05:41] But it would probably help if I had commit rights to the repository. [05:41] How do I arrange that? [05:41] talk to elmo [05:41] I have no objections, and I doubt anyone else would [05:41] Who's the team load for the docteam? It would help to at least cc: the person on the email to elmo. [05:42] we don't relaly have one [05:42] But I'll upload ubuntu-docs in a moment, and clean it up during preview freeze so that everything looks at it right. [05:42] Fair enough. [05:43] cool [05:43] can you do the yelp hacking as well? [05:43] Yeah. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:46] Burgundavia, when did sean leave? [05:47] rob^, there is a post to the list [05:47] he comes and gos === rob^ checks mail [05:47] rob^, a while back [05:47] just got in from work [05:48] back when he was going on about that open learning thing? [05:48] earlier [05:48] must of missed it [05:50] did you know he wrote a book about Ubuntu recently? [05:51] yes, I got the Toc for review [05:51] yeah same [05:51] very much a Sean doc [05:51] lots of verbage [05:51] yeah === Burgundavia hates excessive verbage [05:52] it was very long, I thought they had sent me a copy of the actual book when I first opened it [05:52] I've sent the request to elmo now. [05:55] jbailey, do you have elmos email address? I need to get a new password for svn [05:55] james.troup@canonical.com [05:56] thanks [05:58] Oh, I see. This doc package will have to be done tomorrow. mgavin's made an assumption about it being possible to have a deep debian/ directory which isn't strictly doable. === jeffsch [n=jeffsch@fatwire-201-218.uniserve.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:39] rob^: ping [06:39] jeffsch, pong [06:39] whats up? [06:39] i was just looking at the faq guide... [06:40] it has profiles for os="kde" [06:40] yes, some [06:40] brb [06:40] but do we actually produce a kde version? [06:43] no, not for breezy [06:43] the plan is to do a kde version, I have started some work on it but haven't had time to do heaps [06:44] I mean, you could, but it would mainly only be about gnome apps [06:44] at the moment [06:45] ok good. I'll ignore the kde stuff then. [06:45] yeah ok :) [06:45] making the package I take it? [06:46] i just made some big changes to getting-started.xml. Can you take a look at it? [06:46] ok [06:46] rob^: no. not making any packages. just reviewing. [06:46] ok [06:47] i also wanna ask about question 1.5 on it. It says to use GnomeBaker instead of Nautilus. [06:47] I was going for more a dedicated app rather then nautilus [06:48] its what I use, but either way would suffice [06:48] if you have an iso, right-clicking works [06:48] as gnome-baker needs to be installed [06:48] ah. Maybe add Nautilus as an additional method [06:48] umm, there is no need for gnomebaker [06:49] your talking about How do I burn the ISO onto a CD-R(W)? [06:49] yes [06:50] yeah, the nautilus way would be easier for that [06:50] ok. i will change it. [06:50] ok np [06:51] i also changed the style of the question, from "how to..." to "how do I..." [06:51] if there is any reason to keep, "how to..." then i can change it back [06:51] there are a lot of How to [06:51] most of that was a hang over from ubuntuguide [06:52] maybe a general search replace for them might be good [06:52] yep [06:52] some are "how do I" and some are "How can I..." [06:52] hardware 5 (palmos devices) is completely wrong [06:53] I dont own a palm so I couldnt check that [06:53] I do, will check it with my laptop [06:53] ok thanks [06:54] Burgundavia: you will fix it then? [06:54] do we not have a section for the ATI drivers? [06:54] jeffsch, yes [06:54] ditto [06:54] hmm, maybe the first item on user admin should not be "how to enable root account" [06:55] heh [06:55] it is a FAQ though [06:55] we are also promoting Ubuntu Best Practices, which is sudo [06:56] rob^, the sound stuff needs to extensively overhauled [06:57] because esd has undergone some major changes in Breezy [06:57] yes, its changed a bit now [06:57] I have the latest right now [06:57] but they have only been recent [06:57] the dmix stuff? that is a least a month old [06:57] I have been going nuts tracking all the changes lately [06:58] Burgundavia: you can fix that stuff too then [06:58] ahh [06:59] rob^, to answer my previous question, is there an ATI section? [06:59] not currently [06:59] hmm [07:00] BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is pretty good [07:00] rob^, do you want me to tell you the changes or just make them? [07:00] go ahead [07:02] dumb newbie-to-SVN question: once all that stuff is on my computer, I can just open the files normally, right? the tutorial isn't totally clear to me... [07:03] I just sent some diffs in, dam my svn account [07:04] Madpilot: yep. just open and modify in place. [07:04] OK, thanks [07:06] jeffsch, you want to apply those patches? [07:06] rob^: you can't remember your password? It should be in the email elmo sent you [07:06] Burgundavia: ok [07:06] yes, its encrypted with my gpg key which I no longer have [07:07] :( [07:07] tell me about it [07:07] thats why you haven't seen much work from me in the last week or so [07:08] rob^, why do the DVD stuff point at RestrictedFormats> [07:08] ? [07:08] after some advice I got from mdke and others it was recommended that we point users to the wiki when it comes to things like this [07:09] ok [07:09] fair enough [07:09] due to the legal issues with using/distributing libdvdcss2 [07:09] covering our asses mainly [07:10] same with w32codecs and libdivx4linux [07:10] even that is dubious, I heard [07:10] hmm [07:11] I am thinking we should just kill this section on sound [07:11] because dmix replaces all of it [07:11] now that it has been fixed up, I agree [07:11] the only thing we should keep is the flash one [07:11] sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 [07:11] that one [07:13] hmm scorched3d still has dependencies problems [07:13] so, any objections to renaming [07:13] "How to configure sound to work properly in GNOME?" to "How do I get sound working with Flash?" and removing all but that section? [07:13] no, go ahead [07:14] rob^: oh? motu bug then [07:14] libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6ubuntu1) but it is not installable [07:14] Scorched3d better be workign in Breezy - it's the only reason I need a 3d card... ;) [07:15] rob^: right, I'll fix that up when I get home [07:15] yeah, I added it to the game section in the FAQ Guide.. [07:15] ajmitch, ok thanks [07:15] it looks to be fixed, but the fix failed to build :) [07:15] hah [07:16] remove clipboard and smeg, yep I was going to do that myself [07:18] hmm [07:19] is there a &smeg for the smeg menu item? [07:20] rob^, ^ [07:21] Applications -> System Tools -> Smeg Menu Editor [07:21] heh, you mean in the .xml [07:21] ya [07:21] if it isn't in there, then most likely no [07:22] matt went through and did them [07:22] where do I add them? [07:23] gnome/menus/C [07:24] hmm, so I added smeg.xml [07:25] but it still is spitting errors out at me [07:26] just do something like &smeg; [07:26] I think you may need to include it at the beginning of faqguide.xml [07:26] nope, need to edit gnome-menus.ent [07:27] oh, sorry you need to edit gnome/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent [07:27] ah yeah [07:27] For XHTML docs, should I be using "charset=UTF-8" instead of "charset=ISO-8859-1"? [07:27] which would include it [07:28] ah [07:28] there is arlready something [07:28] Madpilot, yep [07:28] &menu-editor [07:28] rob^: thanks [07:28] ah [07:29] [07:29] bbs [07:30] tips and tricks 6 and 7 [07:31] killall nautilus and gnome-panel [07:31] these are horrible hackish solutions we shouldn't promote [07:36] but sometimes needed, no? esp. when adding things to the panels? [07:36] no [07:36] gamin now works [07:36] rob^: this is actually an XHTML doc still, not XML - I'm going to leave converting it to full XML to someone who knows XML... [07:36] and killing gnome-panel causes all kinds of joy [07:37] but it's now fully w3c-compliant XHMLT 1.0 Transitional, FWIW... [07:38] which? [07:38] tips and tricks 20 (synaptic is quite redundant) [07:39] Burgundavia: the Quick Tour - I've been finishing the code for it off [07:39] cool [07:39] adding DocTypes and all the good stuff we left off when we first hacked it together === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] back [08:04] synaptic? [08:04] 10.22 should be removed [08:05] redundant [08:06] and 10.23 would be better done with either synaptic or apt-get/aptitude === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:06] the uninstall bit anyway [08:08] Burgundavia, you will also need to do a find and remove for the answers that refer to killall gnome-panel too [08:08] ya [08:08] hey guys [08:08] hey jsgotangco [08:08] hi jsgotangco [08:08] rob^, what is the link for that? [08:09] it will look something like: [08:09] [08:09] Read [08:09] [08:09] [08:09] all that will have to be removed [08:10] how do I grep all the files in a dir? [08:10] umm.. [08:10] Burgundavia: -R [08:10] resursive [08:10] recursive, even... [08:10] find '*.xml' -exec something.. [08:11] to remove all that [08:11] probaby need a couple of regexes [08:11] that is very odd [08:12] err guys we are about to package some stuff for the preview release jbailey is the one helping out [08:12] or you could just pop open gedit and do it [08:12] im not familiar how it was done in hoary..anyone have a clue? [08:12] the diff in the emails says I removed this line "" just above "How to install/uninstall .deb file?", but it isn't removed in my version [08:12] can someone svn up and confirm that> [08:12] ? [08:12] hold on [08:14] I got: [08:14] [08:14] How to install/uninstall .deb file? [08:14] [08:14] ok, that is correct [08:14] after a svn up [08:14] the diff in the email is wrong [08:14] Burgundavia, ewww on the ubuntu logo [08:15] jsgotangco, it is a hacked [08:15] version. I am going to take the svg and export tot eh correct size [08:15] "my Ubuntu" or just "Ubuntu">? [08:15] Ubuntu [08:15] hmm so I see [08:16] svn is on crack [08:16] "my " is far too Microsoft-like... === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^ thinks something rude [08:16] jsgotangco: the messy Ubuntu logo on the quick tour is actually my fault, but it is just a placeholder... === ajmitch is reminded of the screenshot mako posted on his blog [08:17] that was awful [08:17] even MS is dropping My for Vista [08:18] vista is such a crap name for an OS [08:18] I still refer to it as "longhorn" [08:18] which is almost as crap.. [08:18] Virusta... [08:19] but then theres "Ubuntu".. :) [08:19] which at least means something [08:20] zingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg [08:20] yeah, I know [08:21] I still might register "www.windowsvirusta.com", if only for the pleasure of selling it back to MS... ;) [08:22] you might get a free xbox and mcse like that mike rowe soft kid [08:22] then I could ebay the Xbox and get something useful... [08:23] its "Vista" anyway [08:23] wow, a free MCSE [08:23] I wouldn't take it free === rob^ peers at his mcse books under his computer desk [08:24] its free its still good [08:24] its still worth something to other employers [08:24] thats right [08:24] anybody else think that Installing Applications is far too wordy? [08:24] yes, but I don't want to work with windows :) [08:24] Burgundavia, the phrase? [08:25] no, the section [08:25] I could probably get an MCSE, and I'm about that level, but argh [08:25] HrdwrBoB, nither do many of the rest of us, but that tends to be where the work and money is [08:25] indeed [08:25] but the jobs suck [08:25] its still money [08:25] all of us need it one way or another [08:26] yes [08:26] yep, hence I lock my self in my unix server room as much as I can [08:26] i actually did a demo of the OpenCD to a group of students yesterday [08:26] rob^: there's plenty (and more everyday) of linux work around [08:26] Burgundavia, you should have seen how wordy it used to be [08:27] ouch [08:27] HrdwrBoB, yes but most jobs require you to have ms certs also [08:29] I removed about 40% of what used to be there [08:30] the first question was twice as long as that before [08:30] rob^: not in my experience [08:30] though I'm in sysdamin in australia [08:34] so am I [08:34] its just who I do it for is different [08:35] then the norm, anyway [08:36] grr this lack of commit access really sucks [08:37] where are the menu entries again? [08:37] gnome/ something [08:50] wow security is full of crap [08:51] yeah just a bit [08:51] I think it should be scraped and redone [08:51] but like I said, no commit password :( [08:51] honestly, there isn't anything more than the following two things [08:51] 1. Keep up to date [08:51] 2. Don't install software from untrusted sources [08:52] when it comes to Linux, yes they are the two key things [08:52] shall I burn it down to those 2? [08:52] and maybe one about adding a firewall [08:52] but some of the other things are important when going to a LUG meeting with your box :) [08:53] if you go to lug meetings, you should know what to do [08:53] kill nessus too [08:53] heh yeah [08:53] and you are unlikely to be looking at this doc for advice [08:53] you haven't seen some of the members of my lug [08:53] its half tafe students [08:54] just sent the Quick Tour diff off to the list, fully of shiny XHTML goodness [08:54] rob^: tafe students? who/what is tafe? [08:55] rob^, so can I go to town on the security section? [08:55] yep [08:56] tafe students are like adult student things [08:56] umm like poor mans uni/collage [08:57] its a funny thing [08:57] heheh [08:57] you can do an IT diploma there [08:57] adult continuing ed, like? [08:57] Madpilot: not really [08:57] Madpilot: but some of them [08:57] Madpilot: more like... vocational skills [08:58] tafe also does the trade stuff [08:58] ah, OK. [08:58] chippies, sparkies, etc [08:58] yep [08:58] my mother works at a tafe teaching english to migrates and illiterate people [08:58] that doesnt sound so bad its still education [08:59] jsgotangco: yeah but it won't get you anywhere professionally [08:59] in terms of IT [08:59] oh its that bad then [08:59] it's not necessarily bad, but it's not valued by most employers for anything over a gopher position [08:59] yeah I did an it diploma many years ago, tell me bout it [09:01] its kind of the equiv of doing a trade [09:01] I was looking at the web design diploma at our local college, and it really seems more like a Macromedia diploma... [09:02] yeah [09:02] plus the fact that the web design program's servers have now been down for a week+ doesn't inspire confidence! [09:02] it might teach YOU how to do things [09:02] but that's all it's ultimately for [09:03] my problem is I'm biased towards professional IT, and as such discount tafe stuff mostly offhand, plus I'm a bit of an arsehole [09:03] so take it all with a grain of salt :) [09:08] wow lock screen now works [09:08] even sound mute [09:08] !!! [09:11] grr [09:11] ? [09:11] generic/faqguide/C/security.xml:44: parser error : Entity 'firestarter' not defined [09:11] Madpilot, toshiba hotkeys [09:12] but it freaking works!!! [09:12] jsgotangco: ah, OK... [09:16] ok I have a conflict [09:16] validate is spitting up an error at me, but the doc works [09:17] should I commit? === jsgotangco svn up [09:17] hmmm... does ./validate.sh work on HTML/XHTML docs as well as XML? [09:17] Burgundavia, faqguide? [09:17] jsgotangco, yes [09:17] the error I just posted [09:17] are you validating security.xml itself? [09:18] ya [09:18] try validating faqguide.xml instead [09:18] just did, that works [09:19] it should work because security.xml is not a complete docbook [09:19] it just starts with [09:20] oh wait [09:20] i get tons of errors [09:21] cleanup the unknown entity called "refreshgnomepanel" [09:21] its an unkown ID [09:21] grr [09:22] need to kill those [09:22] (no idea where that entity is ) [09:22] dead [09:22] "refreshgnomepanel" is the only thing you need to kill [09:22] I already did [09:22] commit again and i'll check [09:22] but the references are not [09:23] its still there [09:23] in a big number of lines [09:28] i can fix this but i'll have to open up all the docs and check [09:29] already did [09:30] ahh there its now clean [09:31] ahh right daniels said it was fixed already on -56 but the repo still hasnt refreshed [09:31] it still has -54 === rob^ sits back down [09:32] ah the joys of having kids [09:37] rob^: what were they lighting on fire this time? ;) [09:37] nah mainly puking all over me === Burgundavia was discussing kids with gf this evening. It was decided not to have any [09:38] we talking "quite ill" or "very very small"? [09:38] very wise :P [09:38] Burgundavia: I really, really can't see C as a a mom, it just doesn't compute... [09:39] very very small [09:39] well one is [09:39] Madpilot, no [09:40] how do I apply a diff? [09:41] kids are great [09:41] especially when they say i love you daddy === Burgundavia thinks that kids are great honey-roasted [09:41] people who didnt expererience being parents wont know the feeling [09:41] of vomit on their clothes, that is [09:42] jsgotangco: is that before or after they puke? [09:42] neither [09:42] if its your kid you wouldn't mind [09:42] children are after all very vulnerable [09:42] thats why the world made parents to protect them [09:44] jsgotangco, how do I apply a diff? [09:45] patch -p0 patch.diff file.xml [09:45] wait [09:46] file.xml first then patch.dff === robitaille ah kids...imagine how much ubuntu stuff I could do without them :) [09:46] robitaille, you're not serious [09:46] heh yep [09:46] :) === Burgundavia breaks out his honey and his bbq [09:50] Madpilot, applied [09:50] thanks [09:51] svn up - lots of stuff - how come neither FF nor Opera can parse some of those xml files? [09:51] Madpilot, do you follow doc-team commits? [09:51] Madpilot, they are docbook [09:52] and DocBook isn't XML as regular browsers understand it, right? [09:52] it is a type of XML === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:56] nevermind, just found the wiki info on opening stuff in Yelp... [09:57] the new OOo 2 can actually save documents as docbook [09:57] breezy decided to install both OOo1 and OOo2 the other day [09:57] that's cool, and will make things much easier for Doc teams everywhere, I hope... [09:58] heh we will see about that.. === Burgundavia doesn't trust wysiwyg editors, for any *ml [09:58] could make things worse [09:59] like Burgundavia said [09:59] yeah, if it cranks out buggy code, then it's worse than useless... [09:59] just look at wysiwyg html editors [09:59] rob^: exactly... [10:02] Burgundavia, are updates supposed to be seen instantly after uploading or is there a certain amount of time that it gets updated? [10:03] jsgotangco, updates to Ubuntu? [10:03] yes Breezy specifically [10:03] there is a nightly cron job to apt-get update [10:04] as for telling the user, I think the icon-thingy polls about every 5 minutes [10:04] doesn't update, just looks to see if there are some indicated by a previous update [10:04] nvm, daniels' update just appeared [10:04] there is also a complicate schedule for building [10:04] this should fix my Xorg now [10:05] things are build and then twice an hour moved to the repos [10:05] well the daily build is scheduled [10:05] 03 and 33 [10:06] need sleep - having to work at 0900 bites. g'night, all [10:06] hmm at least an hour and a half after upload === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:17] heh [10:17] ? 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[05:22] jbailey: hi, i am here === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:26] mgalvin: Heya - The bits inside the gnome directory references things outside of it. [05:26] So having the debian directory buried in there isn't really going to work. [05:26] yea, that the not normal part i was talking about [05:27] this is the way it has been for a while as far as i know, what would you recommend doing [05:28] Do you intend for the KDE and Gnome ones to be the same source package? [05:28] Or should they be completely separate and duplicate where needed? [05:28] (Or have a common base for other things?) [05:28] If you haven't thought about it, no worries. =) [05:29] gnome and kde are separate and the common stuff is the stuff we ref .. [05:29] Right. [05:29] It wants the stuff from ../ [05:29] Works fine when I build it from the svn tree. [05:29] But the souce package doesn't have the final bits in it. [05:31] i guess it would be easier/quicker for now to just dup the common stuff for now, then later we can make a proper ubuntu-docs-common type package (or something similar) [05:32] I can do both just as easily. [05:32] So I'll aim for that then. Hmm. [05:32] Although I guess that means a source tree reorg... [05:33] ok, if you can whip up -common, that would be cool [05:33] yea which is something that would require a bit more discussion with the rest of the team [05:35] 'k, I'll whip it up separate for now. I'd like to just do -common so the ftp masters don't beat me. [05:36] kde also didn't build, I'm guess I'll need to clean that up. [05:36] I've asked for write access to the SVN repo. [05:38] sounds good, if you need anything committed to svn for now, let me know, i can commit it for you until your commit access is set up === uniq_ [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:47] Cool. === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dand_ [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax9-009.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jbailey [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:13] for the split into -common and such... [08:13] During development, will it be acceptible to require that the -common package bits be installed into the correct locations? [08:14] I'm wondering how I'll ask the build to look *either* in ../common *or* in /usr/share/ubuntu-docs-common/... [08:40] jbailey: i would say ../common would be best for now [08:40] Right, but the packages versions have to build based on stuff in /usr/share/... [08:41] That's why I was originally wondering if it should be one big source package for all of the docs. === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:24] hmm, i don't have any objects to having everything in one package, but i don't how the other members would feel about that [09:25] jbailey: we don't have much time left to open a discussion about it, i would say just do what you need to do to get it to work and for breezy+1 we will come up with a better structure and packaging method [09:26] 'kay. I'll glue it all together as I want and get it uploaded. [09:45] great === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-009.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"]