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lllmanulllI made a few tries and designed a few icons, here :01:36
lllmanulllhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomePanelEnhancementsIdeas01:36
lllmanulll(bottom of the page)01:36
lllmanulllStill need to be downsized for the non-vector ones, but the basic is there01:36
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Obzehlo03:27
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volvoguyhi all! what's happenin'?04:26
lllmanulllWell04:28
lllmanulllNot much :)04:28
volvoguywell let's get to work! *snap, snap* :o)04:29
lllmanulllI did make a few icons today04:29
lllmanulllBut nothing fantastic :)04:29
lllmanulllAnyway, is the team really active ?04:30
volvoguyexcellent. are you keeping in touch with andrew about getting them in the official package? 04:30
lllmanulllHmm, not yet, actually I just began this04:30
lllmanulllCouldn't really find someone to tell me what icons to make, since I'd like to concentrate on applications icons04:31
volvoguywe really need to be active. i think Jeff W's email on the list confirmed that. we've just been slacking off (probably my fault) while we waited for our server to be put in place. 04:31
lllmanulllAh, right, I first to need to subscribe to this list :)04:31
lllmanulllMaybe you could give me your opinion about my first icons ? :)04:31
volvoguylllmanulll, are you on the mailing list? i don't see andrew in here very often, so that's probably the best way to get his attention.04:32
lllmanulllI'll do that04:32
volvoguymailing list is here - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art04:32
lllmanulllActually I was working on code until now (for the gnome panel)04:32
volvoguycool! 04:33
volvoguyhonestly, i'm not sure  what the best way is to collaborate on the icons right this second. you almost have to ask andrew where he needs help. i know mime types are really lacking right now. 04:34
lllmanulllThat's it, subscribed ! Thanks04:34
volvoguyexcellent. 04:35
lllmanulllI also made these :04:35
lllmanulllhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomePanelEnhancementsIdeas04:35
lllmanulllSee bottom of the page04:35
lllmanulllAny of them can actually be usable ?04:35
volvoguyquite possible. have you seen the "humility" icon theme that will be the default in breezy? 04:36
lllmanulllYes, I'm using it right now04:36
volvoguygood, good. i think while we're waiting for CVS/subversion/whatever, the best thing to do is submit ideas (and links to examples if you have them) to the mailing list. if we run into a really pressing issue, we'll try to get everybody in here for a meeting. 04:38
lllmanulllAll right, I might be posting the link above to the list, then ?04:39
volvoguyi actually got a laptop from canonical for the laptop testing team, and to use on the couch (really bad back problems). unfortunately i got a spankin' new laptop that Ubuntu doesn't like so far, so i haven't got much done lately. 04:39
volvoguyyeah. i would post that link and say you created the icons at the bottom... then ask generally (or Andrew specifically) what areas in the icon set need the most work. 04:40
lllmanulllAll right04:40
volvoguyAndrew is kinda like the boss of the icon set. i know that one major thing he strives for is to only use colors from the ubuntu palette - then do overlays of black and white transparency to do shading. that's probably his most strict "rule". 04:42
lllmanulllAh right, my icons will probably need a bit of color work then04:43
volvoguyprobably a little. that's why i don't have much done either - it's not easy to restrict yourself to such a small palette! :)04:45
lllmanulllRight...04:45
volvoguyhey miketech. are you awake in here? 04:46
volvoguyi found out yesterday that Canonical HAS been working on our server, and that they're using art.gnome.org as the codebase for the website. "we have the technology. we can rebuild it". :) miketech, do you know what else we might need to do to become a "repository" in your gnome-art app? 04:49
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klepasmoin08:49
whiprushvolvoguy: ping08:50
volvoguyyo whiprush. 08:50
klepas:-)08:50
volvoguywhat's up?08:50
klepasthanks for clearing up the art team issue for me volvo08:50
whiprushvolvoguy: hust got your mail08:50
whiprushlemme digest it08:51
klepasYea08:51
volvoguyi do what i can. :)08:51
klepasI was the guy who asked08:51
klepas:-)08:51
klepasSorry to hear about your back though08:51
volvoguywe're glad to have ya. 08:51
volvoguythanks. it sucks, but i'll live. :)08:51
klepas:-)08:51
klepasI'm new to helping out with Ubuntu08:52
klepasI've been reading through the wiki08:52
volvoguyi'll probably just need to disappear for about a month post-surgery.08:52
klepasespecially in relation to joining, doing doc and art08:52
klepasouch08:52
whiprushvolvoguy: heh, try ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu for an ubuntu mirror. :p08:52
whiprushBut yeah, I can provide anything you need.08:53
whiprushsvn, svn, or bzr, whatever.08:53
whiprusher, cvs, svn, or bzr is what I meant to say08:53
volvoguywell, this group seems to be slow going right now. hopefully Jeff's comments will get people motivated. 08:54
whiprushI am here to help!08:54
klepasditto08:54
volvoguyI know Andrew (the icon guy) and Jeff Waugh have talked about bazzar, but I have no idea what the status is right now. 08:54
whiprushSo you don't go under until nov then right? Surely we can hang out before then.08:54
klepasbazzar?08:54
klepashttp://www.volvoguy.net is heavily outdated...08:55
volvoguyyep. november 4th. i get to be cut open and turned into the bionic man. well... some screws and steel cables in my spine. that's better that missing discs though i think. 08:55
klepaslast blog entry october last yea08:55
whiprushvolvoguy: we should meet irl soon then.08:56
whiprushOur loco has like 30 people08:56
whiprushwe could help.08:56
volvoguyklepas, yeah.... when i get the time to work on the computer these days i'm using working on artwork or laptop (curses) stuff. 08:56
klepascurses or courses? :-)08:57
volvoguywhiprush, excellent. i'm sure i can manage something this weekend or next week. my schedule is clear until the surgery now i think.08:57
volvoguyklepas, curses. I got a Canonical laptop but it's too new for Linux. It has hardware RAID, SATA hard drives and a PCI express video card. none of which work with Ubuntu at the moment. 08:58
klepasa canonical laptop - what exactly makes it a canonical one?08:59
volvoguyoh... and bazzar (from what i understand) is Canonical's own software versioning system like CVS, Subversion and the like. 08:59
whiprushvolvoguy: next saturday we're doing an installfest at oakland to celebrate software freedom dasy08:59
whiprusher, day08:59
volvoguyklepas, they bought it for me. :)08:59
whiprushbut we could meet earlier, I got a comfy, back-safe couch in my office.08:59
volvoguywhiprush, oooh. cool. i'll be there for that!08:59
whiprushvolvoguy: www.ubuntudetroit.org09:00
volvoguycouches work too. :)09:00
klepasah, finally it's Friday09:00
volvoguywhiprush, nice... someone (maybe you?) mentioned the detroit site the day it launched i think and it was down at the time. i keep forgetting to visit. 09:01
whiprushheh09:01
volvoguynice header. :)09:01
whiprushwell, dude we've got plenty of members in the area, if you need any kind of help then please ping me.09:01
whiprushIt's all about community09:01
whiprushso if you need anything from us then let us know09:01
whiprushwe're here to help.09:02
volvoguyi appreciate it! i haven't been to an MDLUG meeting in years. :)09:02
whiprush2~heh09:03
whiprushthey kind of suck09:03
whiprushyou need to go to mug.09:03
volvoguyyeah. they kinda scared me. 09:03
whiprushdon't worry dude, we're on a 2 year plan09:03
volvoguyhanging out in SGI's building was kinda cool though. 09:03
whiprushthe plan is to become such a huge community that sabdfl has to visit us.09:03
volvoguywoohoo!09:04
whiprushwe do need to meet before nov though09:04
volvoguyyou know, the next conference is in canada. 09:04
whiprushbecause I'm going to montreal for the next dev conference09:04
volvoguycool. :)09:04
whiprushso I need to get your concerns about whatever09:04
whiprushso I can present them to the devs09:04
volvoguywhen is that again? 09:04
whiprushfirst week of nov09:05
volvoguydoh!09:05
whiprushshitty timing09:05
whiprusheither way, it's crappy that we haven't linked up yet.09:05
whiprushyou'd dig our loco, we got a good thing going on09:05
volvoguysabdfl would have to pay my way anyway. although likely being involved in two teams now, i knew the medical stuff would screw it up.09:05
volvoguydo you mostly do stuff on OU's campus?09:06
whiprushya09:06
whiprushwe're doing lots of linux stuff now09:06
volvoguycool. 09:06
whiprushmy hope is that the U will fund a group to go to every ubuntu conference.09:06
volvoguycan you get me some scholarships? 09:06
volvoguy:)09:06
whiprush:p I wish09:06
whiprushI'm thinking in the short term that we should link up and Do Great Things(tm)09:07
whiprushand things like sponsorship end up taking care of themselves.09:07
volvoguythis workers comp stuff is a bunch of BS. before the surgery decision yesterday they were planning on handing me over to a vocational counselor to decide what jobs i could do with major pain and addicted to narcotics. yeah... right. 09:07
whiprushhey so you think you're healthy enough to meet sometime this week?09:08
klepaswhoa.09:08
whiprushI'm flexible to whatever needs you have09:08
volvoguyit might have to be a last-minute-play-it-by-ear kinda thing, but i'm sure i could manage something this week.09:08
whiprushrocking.09:09
whiprushwe have lots to discuss.09:09
volvoguyklepas, yeah... i don't think i'd even want to work for the company that would hire me in this condition. 09:09
whiprushmaybe find you some work that doesn't screw you over. :p09:09
volvoguyhey, if someone could help me beat this laptop into shape, i'd be happy. 09:10
whiprushvolvoguy: I'm basically stuck at work for most of the time with the semester just starting, so just im or mail me and I'll round up the local ubuntu crew to wherever you want to meet.09:10
klepasvolvoguy: for an idea of the sort of art I enjoy doing, and would like to do for Ubuntu (taking in mind their nice colour palette) see this - http://wombat.nuxified.com/work09:10
whiprushas long as they have beer.09:10
klepaslol :-)09:10
volvoguybeer and narcotics are a nice mix. as long as you drive. ;)09:11
whiprushwe can arrange drives09:11
whiprushthat's the best part. :p09:11
volvoguyklepas, nice stuff! i dig the earthy tones. :)09:11
klepasyea09:11
klepasI actually use Suse and KDE the most09:12
volvoguywhiprush, where's the best place to IM you?09:12
klepasbeing the system I was first introduced to, have learned to hack somewhat and yea09:12
klepasbut I love Ubuntu09:12
klepas:-)09:12
volvoguyklepas, when the art website opens, there will be a dedicated section for kubuntu. the best of both worlds. :)09:13
whiprushvolvoguy: jorge.castro@gmail.com for gtalk or whiprush on aim09:13
whiprushjorge@whiprush.org or castro@oakland.edu for mail09:13
klepashehe09:13
klepasnice09:13
klepasbut I love gnome too09:13
klepasUbuntu would be the system of choice for a laptop09:13
klepaswhenever I get one09:14
volvoguywhiprush, added ya on AIM. I'm awaite32 there. 09:14
klepas:-)09:14
whiprushokey09:14
whiprushman dude, suse.09:14
whiprushit's like they try to turn off gnome users on purpose.09:14
klepasI like my Suse box.09:14
klepasHowcome?09:14
whiprushthe desktop is just not put together well09:14
klepasSuse's Gnome has a lot of cool features 09:14
whiprushnone of the icons match09:14
whiprushthe menus are a mess09:14
volvoguySuse used to be really gnome-centric didn't it? 09:14
klepasand they are trying to get Ximian on Suse09:15
klepasvovloguy: yea, years back though09:15
volvoguyi actually BOUGHT SuSE Pro about a week before the Warty preview came out. doh!09:15
klepaslol09:15
whiprushheh09:15
klepaswhat version?09:15
klepas9.3?09:15
klepas:D09:15
volvoguyummm. (looks for box propping up the printer)09:16
whiprushvolvoguy: we're a suse mirror now too, opensuse.secs.oakland.edu09:16
klepascool09:16
klepasyea, opensuse is just sweet09:16
volvoguyi forget. it was the first release after the novell buyout. 09:17
klepasthe release date for Suse 10 (yep, from 9.3 to 10.0!! :-D ) has been moved closer by weeks at a time due to the massive input by the opensuse project09:17
klepasah, 9.2 if I recall correctly09:17
volvoguywow. you mean opensource works?! hehe. 09:17
whiprushheading to bed09:17
whiprushnite guys09:17
volvoguyok. catch you soon whiprush!09:17
whiprushok09:18
whiprushhope to meet you soon!09:18
volvoguyditto.09:18
volvoguyyeah. 9.2 sounds about right. 09:18
klepasnn whiprush :-)09:18
volvoguyit took them so long to deliver it that they upgraded me from standard to pro... but by the time it got here i was already using Ubuntu and I never even installed it. 09:19
volvoguybut it's all good. i've been using linux for almost ten years, so it was about time they got a little money from me. :)09:20
volvoguyyeah... i definitely like your color schemes klepas.09:21
klepashehe09:22
klepasyea09:22
klepaswe usually purchase every major release09:22
klepas8.x, 9.x09:22
volvoguyi remember installing slackware entirely from floppies. man i feel old. 09:23
klepaswhoa!09:23
klepashey, just a quick question09:23
volvoguysure.09:24
klepasI've got a friend on the line who knows his fair share of PHP and MySQL etc.09:24
klepasI asked him whether he was interested in helping out on art.ubuntu.com09:24
klepashe just wants to know how much there is to do09:24
klepasand if he could do only a bit09:24
klepas[if there was heaps[09:24
volvoguywell, i don't have access to the server directly yet myself, so i haven't seen the damage yet. the "definitely not live" site is sitting here right now - http://69.60.114.112/09:25
klepasyup09:26
volvoguyfrom what i've heard, submissions aren't actually making it to the database yet, and therefore don't get displayed anywhere. 09:27
klepasI've got to run09:27
klepassadly09:27
klepasgave my friend the url09:27
klepashe'll have a look09:27
volvoguyok. i'm going to try to be around quite a bit this weekend. we'll talk soon.09:28
klepassure09:28
klepasI intend to check back09:28
klepasthanks again09:28
klepasexpect a reply on the mailing list soon09:28
klepasand by Sunday I hope to have done a splash screen image09:28
klepasor 209:28
klepas:-)09:28
volvoguyexcellent! check the archives too.... someone submitted a pretty cool GDM spash concept. 09:29
klepasyea, saw that09:30
klepasit look awesome09:30
klepasI might build on from it09:30
volvoguycool.09:30
klepasany idea where I can get the source for that file?09:30
klepas(gimp xcf for eg.)09:30
volvoguyask on the list. i don't know if the author is sharing yet. 09:30
klepasyup09:31
klepasanyhoo09:31
volvoguywe need to get a good bootsplash going too. the current one is frightening. 09:31
klepasthanks and kudos09:31
klepasagreed!09:32
volvoguyno problem!09:32
klepas:-)09:32
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