[12:08] I seem to be able to resolve www.ubuntu.com, but not archive.ubuntu.com, anyone else seeing this [12:08] ? === mxpxpod [n=BryanFor@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] Works with me [12:09] tiramisu ~/icons>ping archive.ubuntu.com [12:09] PING archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.151) 56(84) bytes of data. [12:09] 64 bytes from 82.211.81.151: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=45.7 ms [12:09] 64 bytes from 82.211.81.151: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=44.3 ms [12:09] --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics --- [12:09] 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms [12:09] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 44.316/45.025/45.734/0.709 ms [12:09] tiramisu ~/icons> [12:10] Thanks, seems to work now. Weird. [12:10] lllmanulll unclogged it [12:11] Right :) [12:11] Hey, anybody knows what's up with the Google's Summer of Code project ? [12:11] I've been trying to contact seb128 all day, but he's unreachable [12:13] lllmanulll: seb128 was here until 8 hours ago [12:14] morning [12:14] timezone problems, perhaps [12:15] Well, he came online a few times, but didn't respond to my /query [12:15] And we're on the same timezone [12:15] Anyway, nevermind :) [12:15] perhaps try mail instead === kayfelix [n=root@dsl-082-082-224-229.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sto [n=sto@debian/developer/sto] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xhaker [i=xhaker@213.201.220.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] is the wiki down? [12:40] works for me? [12:40] hmm....that sucks [12:40] WORKSFORME NOTABUG [12:42] zul, others have been reporting issues with the wiki === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-223-101.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089D034.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] gah, why do I have too many channels? === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === marcin_ant [n=marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tix [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jk- [n=jk@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Elleo [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === avanspronsen [n=andrewv@Toronto-HSE-ppp3866743.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xerox [n=xerox@adsl-152-237.38-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] mvo, synaptic didn't make it yet into Rosetta?:) === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [n=daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [n=sfeehan@pool-71-241-137-217.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as GmanAFK === jlj [n=agp@cm-80.111.97.105.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as GmanAFK [03:43] mdz: I have a list of libglitz.la depending packages that I need to discuss with seb128, and then probably upload a few of them for rebuilds to finish that transition completely [03:44] just as an oh-by-the-way [03:45] (sadly, gcc-4.0 and gimp appear to be on that list - hence my need to talk with seb128 before I go fixing things..) [03:50] mdz/seb128: specifically, the following packages (in at least 1 of the 3 architectures) have /usr/lib/*.la files which contain the string "libglitz.la", but do not Depend on any libglitz package: [03:50] dia-newcanvas gcc-4.0 gcompris gimp gtkgl2 gtkglext libctk libquicktime libsigcx somaplayer === dereks [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] Lots of people need seb128 now :) [04:03] lllmanulll: well, truthfully speaking, I could just upload -build kicks of all of those (and it's possible that I will need to), but I'd like to check first. === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dereks needs seb128 :) [04:08] queue forms to the left. :-) === pete_maas [n=petemaas@cpe-68-206-58-119.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:09] lamont: haha [04:10] hehe, I guess he's sleeping, and will come back in about 6 hours ? :) [04:10] sounds about right [04:11] But he's my 'mentor' for the Google 'Summer of Code' program, which deadline is about... huh... right now [04:11] Doh [04:11] Couldn't get to him for the whole day, must have been pretty busy === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [n=sfeehan@pool-71-241-137-217.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:17] lllmanulll: what was your project? [04:20] dereks, "Gnome panel enhancements" [04:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomePanelEnhancementsIdeas === bur[n] er [n=norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pete_maas [n=petemaas@cpe-68-206-58-119.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-157-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [n=sfeehan@pool-71-241-137-217.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:36] lllmanulll: looks great [04:36] ryanthiessen, Thanks :) [04:39] it's a small thing compared to the rest of what you did, but I'm quite looking forward to the separator :-) [04:39] Ah :) [04:39] Unfortunately, I don't think it will make it for breezy [04:39] d'oh [04:40] Well, I guess it's up to seb128 :) [04:40] But the freeze are already passed, aren't they ? [04:40] s/freeze/freezes [04:40] so much of the great SoC projects didn't make breezy :-( [04:40] Right... The freezes were a bit early [04:41] But breezy++ will be even better :) [04:42] it's going to just miss firefox 1.5 too, I imagine there will be a lot of people using backports [04:42] Well, I need some sleep now (4:42 am here) :) [04:43] g'night [04:43] If seb128 comes back, tell him I desperately need him :-p [04:43] Good night :) [04:44] mm? [04:44] we have firefox 1.0.6 [04:45] Are newer firefox revisions really adding that much that people are desperate to get them? [04:45] new shiny things [04:45] jbailey, check the ff roadmap [04:47] but i wouldn't say desperate.. but if breezy ships with 1.5 then it has 100+ points.. heh [04:47] has=would have [04:47] we have a freeze schedule [04:47] xhaker: rather unlikely, I'd say [04:47] not a good idea to go against it [04:47] i'm not the one bringing this up [04:48] i've just given my opinion [04:48] xhaker: I've always found the firefox plans a bit weak, since they say things like 'feature complete', witout providing a URL to the list of features. =) [04:49] jbailey, i think they've improved a bit now, with this deer park [04:49] should i call it approach? [04:49] Ah, cool. [04:49] jbailey: the feature I'd like most is that the dialog box popups are replaced by error pages -- but I'm not arguing against the freeze [04:49] they look like they care now [04:50] Cool. [04:50] I have to admit to using ephy, so it's alwyas the core bits that I want. [04:50] And I've been pining for useful svg for years, another few months won't hurt me. =) [04:50] not only that, the new engine, the svg support, the fixed back/forward behavior.. to name a few [04:51] jbailey: I use ephy too -- and when it's built against ff1.5 it will get that feature too :-) [04:51] jdub: you awake? [04:51] ryanthiessen, you can have the error pages now, just have to edit some wierd key [04:51] lamont: He was at like 2pm our time. [04:52] rebooting, justasec [04:55] lamont: i am now! [04:55] lamont: thanks very much! [04:55] jdub: ?? [04:55] lamont: was a lovely dream about fountains and meadows! [04:55] and WATERFALLS! [04:55] AND THEN YOU COME AND WAKE ME UP! [04:55] what - computer beeps and wakes you up??? [04:55] heh [04:55] no [04:55] you should mute that when you sleep... [04:55] i am just having a morning hate [04:56] heh === lamont was working at bludgeoning some creul hacks in, involving breezy-changes... [04:56] but I should be able to subscribe the hacky-address [05:02] success. :-) === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] xhaker: do you recall what that key is? [05:07] browser.xul.error_pages.enabled [05:07] set to true [05:07] thanks! [05:07] the only gripe i have with it is that the address changes in the editbox [05:07] try it and you'll see what i mean === lamont -> home [05:10] haha, ryanthiessen i have just discovered another way :P [05:10] xhaker: you mean the address bar? it's not doing that for me right now... [05:10] it used to [05:10] i didn't enable it before because of that === Traxer|off [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] i'm trying out tor.. and it spits out a nice 403 page in the browser too :P === wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-173-207-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:15] jdub: nm rewriting resolv.conf sucks because it also overwrites nameservers added by VPNs. THAT"S WHY. I had forgotten my real reason earlier. ;) === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:15] wasabi: C'mon, tell us how you really feel. =) [05:15] Haha. [05:16] I had just brought up how that annoyed me a few days ago, but I couldn't remember WHY [05:16] It also would toast any other resolv options that folks wanted in there by hand. [05:16] wasabi: the whole point of NM rewriting resolv.conf and using bind is to handle complex situations like internet+VPN name resolution [05:16] Well, that doesn't work, right now, because VPNs don't yet play nice. =/ [05:17] Or do they and mine is just broke? [05:17] mmm, hopefully soon there'll be better support for static profile configuration and things like openvpn [05:17] indeed, it could be very soon if you wrote it! :) [05:17] RIght now I use pon, it uses resolvconf [05:17] so it merges with my existing config. [05:17] ANd it works great, until nm clobbers resolvconf [05:18] and NM is *intended* to be a whole new world [05:18] you could either: [05:18] a) add better support for static profiles [05:18] b) add support for whatever vpn software you're using [05:19] What are the deficienes with resolvconf, so I can think NM is better? [05:19] deficiencies. [05:19] resolv.conf won't let you use different DNS servers for different networks [05:19] I mean resolvconf without the . [05:20] it's mostly irrelevant [05:20] Oh? [05:20] jdub: Err.. Are you planning on chewing on glibc's resolver code with this? [05:20] jbailey: hrm? [05:21] So... I know you might think this is silly. [05:21] But can bind start on !53? [05:21] Perhaps you mean something different by that. I interpreted what yousaid as "I have two interfaces, ppp0 to the Internet, and eth0 to my local lan. I can refer traffice for ppp0 to an external nameserver, and traffic for eth0 to an internal nameserver based on routing" [05:21] And can glibc know of it? [05:21] I realize bind is a much better resolver engine than plain ol resolv.conf [05:21] jbailey: yeah [05:21] But I do run some local copies of bind for test configs and stuff. [05:21] wasabi: why? bind it to localhost. [05:22] (which is what NM does with it) [05:22] Yes, but I run my own copy of bind. [05:22] Sometimes. For development stuff. [05:22] sudo netstat -pan | grep $(pidof named) [05:22] I guess I could run my own copy on !localhost heh [05:23] yeah [05:23] wasabi: make a new lo on 127.0.0.2 :-) [05:23] oh! [05:23] Hah! [05:23] Great idea! [05:23] Thinking outside the box! [05:23] haha [05:24] Such a crazy concept never occured to me. [05:24] good thing they gave a whole /8 to loopback [05:24] Kamion: ping [05:24] I don't think I have ever considered making a new lo for anything ever. === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-157-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:26] I have no complaints now. [05:26] Carry on. [05:27] jbailey: man-di has sort of taken over Eclipse and I'm letting him, in Debian anyways. He's sorta working on it a lot now, and I just don't have time. [05:28] Soon as he gets his feature complete with mine, and breezy is out, i'll sync it. [05:28] sometimes it is painful watching technology changes in progress, NM is a rough one [05:28] Work is just kicking my ass. [05:29] Wonder if I can make NM run on .2 heh [05:29] brb === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-173-207-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] wonder if NM should always run on .2 === carstenh_ [n=carstenh@mkfw.fh-trier.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-157-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === edwarddes [n=edwardde@cpe-24-93-23-192.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] ghawd [06:14] I have to repatch pmount [06:14] I hate filenames in uppercase === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-157-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [n=mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:35] what the heck i see jdub, bob2 and chmj in the xscreensaver prompt === lamont looks around for someone with stock hoary system who is willing to test something for him [06:36] specifically, my fix for 14130 [06:36] lamont, I have one [06:36] Burgundavia: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/postfix_2.2.4-1ubuntu2 and install it - it shouldn't ask you any questions [06:37] (this is assuming that you haven't mucked with debconf priorities, and that you still have the hoary version of postfix installed beforehand) [06:38] lamont, I have a pure hoary install, just a sec [06:39] cool... if it does ask for mailer type, then I'll go ahead and make myself a fresh install to play with [06:39] lamont, getting a 404 [06:40] gah [06:41] Burgundavia: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/postfix_2.2.4-1ubuntu2_i386.deb [06:41] :-( === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-169-223.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-169-223.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:47] daniels: imlib+png2 build says: In file included from cache.c:5: [06:47] gdk_imlib_private.h:104: error: syntax error before 'XShmSegmentInfo' === Burgundavia curses his isp [06:49] p.u.c/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/i/imlib+png2/1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2/imlib+png2_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_20050901-1255-i386-failed.gz [06:51] lamont, installed [06:51] i get a postfix configuration === sfvt [n=sfeehan@pool-71-241-137-217.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:52] jsgotangco: you got a question? [06:52] sigh [06:52] well, that's something for my list tomorrow then [06:52] yep postfix configuration screen [06:54] grumble === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] at least one of the gtk2hs guys uses ubuntu :-) [07:18] http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/gallery/Cairo-demo/Cairo_demo_8 [07:18] (the dude doing cool cairo work!) [07:19] rock [07:19] === whiprush blogs angry. [07:22] jdub: I think mjg59 is a bad influence on me. === ajmitch takes a look at whiprush's blog [07:24] pretty long blog for anger [07:25] yeah [07:25] ok, so feel good story of the day, I showed my boss the new usplash stuff. [07:26] And he was like "feel free to not get charged vacation time for your next ubuntu trip." [07:26] schwing! [07:26] heh [07:29] whiprush: woo! [07:29] whiprush: "oh, by the way boss, THAT'LL BE IN OCTOBER! THANKS!" [07:30] jdub, you are so prominent on the xscreensaver prompt heh === ajmitch really has to see this new xscreensaver crack === Burgundavia runs gnome-screensaver [07:30] me too. [07:30] I thought g-s was the default until I did a fresh install the other day [07:30] xscreensaver is so 90's [07:30] this was during the smackdown at the hotel [07:31] everyone was kinda drunk already [07:31] then I realized I had switched to it previously. === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-157-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:31] whiprush, I hear rumours of it being default for .14 [07:31] I would welcome that. [07:32] jsgotangco: scary. [07:32] along with g-p-m and fusa [07:32] Burgundavia: oooh oooh, NetworkManager too [07:32] by then it should be in great shape === ajmitch hopes that NM is nice & shiny by then [07:32] "someone else" doesn't jive [07:32] ya [07:33] "login as a new user" perhaps? === sjg [n=jason@67.126.87.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] I hate the lull periods before a release. It tends to make you go "ooh, +1 will just be so awesome." [07:34] well that's the time people clean up [07:34] for end users they just wait... [07:34] oh god xscreensaver is a cludge [07:35] jdub: so apprently calvin@novell is converting his desktop to ubuntu so they can provide ifolder packages. [07:35] whiprush, you serious? [07:35] yep. [07:35] nice [07:35] ifolder crack === Burgundavia watches Novell convert to Ubuntu is 2 years [07:36] I was surprised to find quite an iFolder [07:36] presence on the ubuntu site. I'm hoping to build packages for all of [07:36] our stuff and place them on our web site so people can just add it to [07:36] their apt sources. [07:36] whiprush: like most of the rest of them ;) [07:36] yeah [07:36] I hung out with one of their hula interns, at boston they can run whatever they want [07:36] we should invite him to join MOTU instead of maintaining a separate repo [07:37] whiprush: we should MOTUise him, yes [07:37] apparently ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. [07:37] I believe Martin has been corresponding with them over email. [07:37] I'm idling in #ifolder, I will mention it to calvin soon. [07:37] Mez did the backport right? [07:37] No [07:38] It's a pain right now [07:38] ahh [07:38] they're working on making it more better repackageable though. [07:38] For one, their simple server is now a seperate package, etc. [07:39] which would open the whole thing up for easy deployment, right now you have to build the server out of cvs, etc. [07:39] the other thing that could use some repackagable love is banshee [07:39] well, they've patched stuff up to make it easier to build in ubuntu [07:40] Burgundavia: tseng is on it [07:40] they're really receptive to us at the moment [07:40] tseng is all over it [07:40] Burgundavia: don't worry, the mono team is rocking at the moment [07:40] ajmitch, cool. Muine is pissing me off right now [07:40] is iFolder stuff going to be in breezy (universe)? [07:40] Burgundavia: tell me your problems.. [07:40] I kind of feel bad for them, right now it seems that our users are more receptive to their projects than the opensuse community [07:41] Mithrandir: could be, if it's ready & we get an exception for it [07:41] ajmitch: well, if nothing depends on it, it's an easy exception. :-) [07:41] Mithrandir: it's a bitch to build, you'll have to ask tseng. I'm not holding my breath [07:41] ajmitch, the notification area control causes muine is sef fault [07:42] Mithrandir: yeah, we've got some freeze policies for universe though [07:42] Burgundavia: ok, amd64? [07:42] ajmitch, i386 [07:42] hm, filed a bug on it? [07:43] sadly most of the mono apps got demoted to universe due to various reasons [07:44] ajmitch, not yet. I didn't get very good feedback from tseng about bug filing on muine. I think he also dislikes Malone [07:44] he doesn't like the unreproducible bugs [07:44] I'll also watch muine bugs, though [07:45] I need to test on my fresh breezy install box [07:45] right [07:45] then I will file === ajmitch needs to burn a breezy install disc === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:45] but I cannot get my laptop online at home, due to my ISP [07:46] due to your ISP? [07:46] that's unfortunate [07:46] jdub: so ... large appliances that cool things. Update? [07:46] working on it === ajmitch is using the laptop at the moment, albeit in XP :) [07:46] MAC acdy restirction, only 2 machines get real address. I am too broke to buy a router [07:46] cool. [07:46] Burgundavia: we'll have to ship you one [07:46] :) [07:46] only have a hub right now [07:47] the other boxes are running linux? === Burgundavia is now working, so being broke will go away soon [07:47] yes [07:47] I really should set up my desktop box to be a router, but meh [07:47] why not play the one-armed router hack, and use NAT? [07:48] or just do MAC spoofing [07:48] laziness [07:48] or better, have 2 NICs in the box [07:48] argh.. why oh why does wlan-modules get loaded before wired ones.. [07:48] and I don't know where my extra NICs are [07:51] hm, using my camera as usb mass storage device doesn't work when its battery is flat, what a pain === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:52] Morning [07:52] hey pitti [07:52] how are you? [07:53] pitti: Hey.. [07:53] pitti: Your update actually even works better than the previous one =) [07:53] pitti: A number of strings that weren't showing up localised before now are =) [07:53] pitti! [07:54] Hi ajmitch [07:54] ajmitch: great, thanks! :-) [07:54] jbailey: wow, that's really unexpected... :-) [07:54] hi whiprush === pitti feels really welcomed [07:54] pitti: I thought it might be. =) [07:55] Hi daniels! Just replied to the X breakage mail [07:57] morning pitti [07:57] Hi carstenh_ [07:57] carstenh_: do you have fire for me? :-) [07:58] pitti: not yet, after the breakfast :) [07:59] jdub: volvoguy is local to me and I just caught up on their list; if they need hosting then I've jsut mailed him offering unlimited hosting for whatever they need. [08:01] hmm, has the art team been that hard up for hosting? [08:02] nup [08:02] they seem to think they're waiting for art.ubuntu.com to go live, but they don't actually need it to do artwork :) [08:02] oh I see. === wasab1 [n=wasabi@c-67-166-199-153.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:03] Do we have a methodology for packaging add-on modules and making sure they get compiled for each new kernel release? [08:03] For instance, mac-on-linux. [08:03] wasab1: no, we've tried very hard to avoid it [08:04] putting all our modules in the linux-image build [08:04] Ahh. [08:04] Can MOL fit in there? [08:05] And, ancilliary to this question, I am trying to compile MOL and cannot figure out how to get it to install into /lib/2.6.12-7-powerpc, long name, etc. [08:05] make-kpkg is not agreeing [08:05] are the torrents at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current actually being used? I get the feeling nothing is seeding them === carstenh [n=carstenh@mkfw.fh-trier.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:05] CarlFK: possibly not; ask elmo or Znarl [08:06] Bah. I am this | | close to just hand moving them in there. [08:06] wasab1: you have to change the version in the makefile [08:06] i forget [08:06] long time since i've built my own [08:06] YAY! [08:06] Agreed, Yay. [08:06] Too bad these modules aren't in the archive. =( [08:07] wow - 550K/s eta 20 min to wget the live image. who cares about BT? ;) [08:08] Hmm. [08:08] .torrent files should support a HTTP file path in them, in case of no seeds. [08:08] Byte-range gets could be used. [08:09] Would make a torrent self seeding. [08:09] well, that assumes 2+ extra steps: tweek the torrent, tweek the client, put the file on a web server [08:10] I think it would make more sense for the person creating the torrent to just seed it ;) [08:10] sure, but HTTP can be mirrored, like Ubuntu is. [08:10] I guess you could run seeds on each mirror. Anyways, just sounds like a nice little feature. [08:10] the mirros could just be BT clients [08:11] kamion: around? [08:13] HA HA HA HA HA [08:13] whiprush: "hope fumes" [08:13] ha ha ha ha [08:13] :( [08:13] It's not funny. [08:13] here is my idea how to use BT to replace the current mirror system: http://p2p.noreply.org/p2p/DirDistribution [08:13] I really do hope [08:14] elmo: polygen sync, please [08:18] elmo: affix sync, please === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] Moins mvo [08:25] elmo: zsync sync, please [08:26] hi mvo [08:27] hey pitti, hi ajmitch [08:27] good morning all [08:28] elmo: python2.3 sync, too (that was the last one for today, promised :-) ) [08:29] elmo: and for me, scummvm & f-spot sync [08:29] jbailey: do you know whether ia32-libs will disappear by breezy? [08:31] jbailey: I'm asking because it still has a vulnerable zlib version, so whether I need to fix it or not === mvo goes to see dholbach presentation for his thesis now === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-071-123.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:46] morning [08:46] Hi pef === vedran [n=vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:50] bah, there seems to be no way to tell the kernel to load e100 before orinoco on install? === Crushed_Cigar [n=zinc@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:54] hey doko [08:54] :) [08:56] good morning, JaneW, yes I've network access again, the central access point of my provider in Berlin was damaged ... === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:58] doko: sounds bad - glad you managed to get back... [09:04] Hi doko [09:05] doko; so what's the story with this mouse wheel business? === vedran [n=vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === seb128 [n=seb@d213-103-233-106.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] Hey seb128 [09:11] hey hey pitti === kronoss [n=kronoss@FW-7-250.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] Hi kronoss [09:11] hi pitti [09:13] desrt: tell me, what information you need? did you get feedback from the other guys? [09:13] doko; was it on the bug? [09:13] doko; it'd be good if you can identify what event devices corresponds to your mouse and see if wheel events register there [09:14] doko; basically, one by one run hd /dev/input/event0, event1, event2 etc [09:14] and move the mouse around to see [09:14] desrt: so this wm crasher is an upstream issue :) [09:14] then once you find it see if wheel events are reported [09:14] seb128; yes it is. and there's a patch available [09:15] 315000 iirc [09:15] I've just read elijah's and yours comment [09:15] thanks guys [09:15] thank the guy who found it :P [09:15] i tried looking for it for about an hour... i was just lost === silbs [n=sbsm0084@host86-129-106-78.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-071-123.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-071-123.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [n=ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-071-123.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-071-123.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] doko; wb. [09:20] doko; did yo catch the instructions? [09:23] desrt: didn't save them, I'll try a clean install first, to rule out upgrade problems, but not today [09:24] doko; k. === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-123-118.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@c183242.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TWD [n=chatzill@LAubervilliers-151-12-90-52.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:48] morning all [09:49] anybody has an idea why when you don't have enough room on /boot, and you were attempting kernel upgrade which failed in the middle, you get left without network getting weird erros of permission denied when trying to get a lease? [09:49] (/me is curious to understand how that works) === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] I was getting the permission denied errors although I was root, on the SIOCSIFADDR and freinds.. === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57]