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thoreauputicopman: have you tried #apache ?12:00
Blissexopman: because this is an Apache support channel?12:00
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dinlater, i'm goin home12:00
spiritzhow usable is breezy? I had bad luck when I tried it during the C++ transition:12:00
thoreauputicWeems: you might need bchunk12:00
thoreauputic!info bchunk12:00
Weemspl12:00
ubotubchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB12:00
phantombrainmis there a german ubuntu channel too?12:00
opmanBlissex: because the apache channel inst responsive right now :)12:00
Weemsok.12:00
Blissexopman: however read http://tinyurl.com/2rfwr on the subject of mass virtual hosts12:00
DVSoftwarethoreauputic: i just hope it doesn't screw my kernel12:00
Seveas!de12:01
DVSoftwarei hate kernel panics12:01
ubotude is probably #ubuntu-de bitte.12:01
gn0mephantombrainm: #ubuntu-de maybe?12:01
seliniumNalioth: After checking both systems, it seems that when I shut down my local machine it did send the shutdown signal to my remote server as well. Had to pop into the office and start the machine.12:01
phantombrainma yeah, thanks!12:01
gn0me:)12:01
phantombrainmnot that im not speaking english but i just wanted to know12:01
opmanBlissex: your fucking funny, but next time ask me if i already tried google12:01
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D13GU___ the wireless ethernet adpter DWL-G510 is supported in ubuntu 5.04?12:02
Weemsthoreauputic: what do I have to do after its installed?12:02
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Blissexopman: I just did that search and I got quite a few URLs to documents that explain it in detail.12:02
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Weemsdo I have to convert the .bin to .iso?12:02
thoreauputicWeems: I have no idea, sorry12:02
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Weemsoh..12:02
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thoreauputicWeems: I've not used it12:02
opmanBlissex: not specifically on my question12:02
QMario!Botsnack12:03
ubotuthanks qmario :)12:03
opmanif you look into them12:03
Blissexopman: specifically on your question...12:03
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opmanBlissex: ..12:03
thoreauputichmm12:03
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Blissexopman: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/mass.html12:04
TheMagnumMunkeyhi12:04
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TheMagnumMunkeyjust saying hi12:04
TheMagnumMunkeybye12:04
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opmanBlissex: ive looked at that, it doesnt even mention subdomains12:04
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Blissexopman: it does not make a difference.12:04
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funkyHatanyone know? O:-)12:05
funkyHator have a wild guess at least12:05
phantombrainmhow can i put the username of someone in front of my line?12:05
opmanBlissex: i want it automatically to map subdomains, so i would have to use some mod_Rewrite or something to grab the subdomain name and change the url path12:05
IceDC571um.. configuration screen, what do you mean by that, funkyHat ?12:05
Blissexopman: note that Apache is not a DNS server, the domains or subdomains must already exist.12:05
funkyHatIceDC571, like the bios setup, only it's a separate setup as it's a PCI card12:05
opmanBlissex: i have already setup bind9 to catch all subdomains12:06
IceDC571funkyHat, sorry. I have no idea.12:06
Blissexopman: so the section "Simple dynamic virtual hosts" shows how to do the mapping.12:06
opmanBlissex: not for "sub" domains,   mapping /htdocs/www.test.com/abc to abc.test.com12:07
Blissexopman: I'd like to point out that the mapping goes the other way...12:07
opmanBlissex: that doesnt matter12:08
seliniumHi Seveas, can you spare 5 mins to look my first compile thing?12:08
jpfariasdoes someone knows in which package is the helvetica font?12:08
Blissexopman: and ir works as in '/htdocs/abs.test.com/' whats wrong with that.12:08
chumphriesi love how things just work in ubuntu :) something i thought would never exist in linux :)12:08
thoreauputicphantombrainm: type the first few letters, then hit <tab>12:08
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phantombrainmthoreauputic, coool12:08
phantombrainmworks12:08
Seveasselinium, yeah12:08
chumphriesmy girlfriend may use linux now :)12:08
opmanBlissex: becasue thats not the way i want it?,12:08
thoreauputic:)12:08
phantombrainmthx12:08
seliniumSeveas: Cool, I'll just go at pastebin it12:09
Blissexopman: then use 'mod_rewrite' or write your own version of the 'mod_vhost_alias' module.12:09
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abarbacciahey guys- whats the purpose of a tab in a makefile?12:09
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Blissexopman: but consider http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_vhost_alias.html and the '%N.M' syntax12:09
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Blissexabarbaccia: it distinguishes recipes from dependencies.12:10
Blissexabarbaccia: iff a line begins with a tab it is a recipe command.12:10
abarbacciaBlissex, can you explain more-  what do you mean recipes?12:10
seliniumSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1802 :)12:10
Seveasselinium, apt-get build-dep xmms12:11
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seliniumSeveas: it may be a bad choice but i saw someone else asking about installing it.12:11
Blissexabarbaccia: you really need to read an introduction to Make ...12:11
seliniumSeveas: will do, Sorry to be a pain, but why?  want to know what to do next time :)12:11
abarbacciaBlissex, do you have one handy?12:12
Seveasit's a plugin for xmms so having all xmms build dependencies in place might be useful12:12
Blissexabarbaccia: two random ones that I just found are: http://makepp.sourceforge.net/1.19/makepp_tutorial.html http://www.wlug.org.nz/MakefileHowto12:12
seliniumSeveas: Cheers. :)12:12
abarbacciathanks buddy12:13
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CookedGryphonhey, i've been trying to download wine, it keeps failing tho, where else can i get a supported version of it?12:13
Seveasapt-get install wine12:13
seliniumSeveas: Done. Do i try the ./configure again now?12:13
Seveas(enable multiverse)12:13
BlissexCookedGryphon: supported? Look at Transgaming.com12:13
Seveasselinium, yes12:13
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DVSoftwareCookedGryphon: codeweavers crossover office12:14
ChadzaAnyone know how to keep ubuntu from starting X?12:14
Seveasupdate-rc.d -f gdm remove12:14
abarbacciaBlissex, so basically the tab lets make know to run the command12:15
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Blissexabarbaccia: sort of -- not quite. It is a syntactic element, not a semantic one.12:15
ChadzaSeveas: So the corresponding command to bring it back would be update-rc.d -f gdm add?12:16
Seveasno12:16
ChadzaDo tell then.12:16
ChadzaSo what is the command to add it back once I realize the error of my ways?12:17
seliniumSeveas: Still complianing about the lack of BMP? Is that the beep music player?12:17
Seveasupdate-rc.d gdm start 13 2 3 4 5 . stop 01 0 1 612:18
Seveasselinium, no idea what it is12:18
Seveastry installing beep-media-player-dev12:18
feugan3333anyone know why I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/180312:18
seliniumSeveas: Cheers12:18
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Seveastry installing beep-media-player-dev .12:18
Seveasupdate-rc.d gdm start 13 2 3 4 5 . stop 01 0 1 6 .12:18
Seveasyou need the final dot12:18
ChadzaSeveas: You are my ubuntu hero.12:19
ChadzaAnd for this base console that I'm at.12:19
ChadzaAny way to raise the res slightly?12:19
ChadzaI'm all about text, but not 1/4 inch letters.12:19
HrdwrBoBChadza: that's your LCD12:20
Seveasadd vga=773 as kernel boot parameter in the '# kopt' line of /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub12:20
HrdwrBoBchange it to stretch12:20
abarbacciaquick non-ubuntu question - if new fails in C++ what happens?  what's the error?12:20
ChadzaChange what to strech HrdwrBoB ?12:20
HrdwrBoBChadza: your LCD12:21
ChadzaThis fills the screen.12:21
Seveasabarbaccia, paste the error on the pastebin, this is hopeless without context12:21
HrdwrBoBoh, well then wht's the problem12:21
ChadzaI'm on the 'base' console, I guess.12:21
ChadzaSo it's the generic BIOS size font.12:21
Seveasadd vga=773 as kernel boot parameter in the '# kopt' line of /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub <-- Chadza12:21
abarbacciaSeveas, no, i'm asking just a question - if new were to fail (you run out of memory) what happens12:21
HrdwrBoBChadza: what Seveas said12:21
Seveasabarbaccia, ah ok12:22
HrdwrBoBin any case though, why is that a problem12:22
ChadzaI want more text visible.12:22
HrdwrBoByou should only need to use it when something goes terribly wrong12:22
HrdwrBoBso use X12:22
Seveaswell, you might get an exception somewhere. At least the reference to the object is invalid12:22
feugan3333abarbaccia: Nothing happens, no memory is allocated and new returns a null pointer12:22
HrdwrBoBit has better fonts, movable windows, all sort of fun things12:22
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Seveasfeugan3333, no exceptions?12:22
ChadzaI need irssi, pork, and mpg321, and a term.12:22
ChadzaThat's all I use this box for.12:23
Seveasabarbaccia, in that case exception/segfaults will occur when using the pointer returned by new12:23
abarbacciafeugan3333, i just looked it up - that's wrong - it throws an exception/segfault12:23
Seveasso always check the result of new (and *alloc)12:23
CookedGryphonwhy do the ubuntu repositories never work?12:23
DVSoftwaregod damn it12:23
DVSoftwarethis update lasts forever12:23
SeveasCookedGryphon, nonsense.12:24
CookedGryphonwell, not never, but there's a lto fo broken ones12:24
abarbacciathanks feugan3333 and Seveas12:24
feugan3333Ok sorry I was thinking of C12:24
CookedGryphonlot  of*12:24
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SeveasCookedGryphon, again nonsense.12:24
DVSoftwareCookedGryphon: i've never seen that official ubuntu reposotory is broken12:24
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CookedGryphonjsut amin, which one of mine is broken....12:24
SeveasDVSoftware, packages can't get accepted if their dependencies can't be mad12:25
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SeveasDVSoftware, packages can't get accepted if their dependencies can't be made*12:25
Kyralwhy does that nick make me think sexcopter8000m is a spambot?12:25
frank23which repository is borken?12:25
seliniumSeveas: It needs libcurl, do i get libcurl or libcurl-dev?12:25
SeveasKyral, he's not :)12:25
NaliothKyral: his cousins are all in -unregged, lol12:25
Seveasselinium, both (althugh the latter should drag in the former)12:25
seliniumSeveas: Cheers12:25
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CookedGryphonwell fine then, the ones that i want to use, cross platform univers,e , r broken12:26
Seveasubuntu universe is not broken.12:26
DVSoftwareCookedGryphon: i've just downloaded 1.6 gb from ubuntu repos12:26
DVSoftwarethey're not broken12:26
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KyralI'm Dist-Upgrading12:26
DVSoftwareKyral: me too12:26
CookedGryphonwel then what's wrong with my setup then12:26
CookedGryphoni'm trying to dl wine package12:27
CookedGryphonand it won't work12:27
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KyralI half expect it to break, but thats what the weekend is for!12:27
DVSoftwarewhat's the error12:27
Seveaswhat's the error?12:27
Seveaslol :)12:27
DVSoftwareKyral: well, if it break12:27
thoreauputicCookedGryphon: probably a typo in /etc/apt/sources.list or you screwed up your sources somehow12:27
DVSoftwarei will kill myself12:27
frank23CookedGryphon, are you using x86?12:27
CookedGryphonyeah12:27
KyralI think X is stable now...12:27
DVSoftwarei don't have backup, and i don't have spare partition12:27
KyralAnyone dist-upgrade recently?12:28
frank23Kyral, I just installed breezy and it seems to work12:28
Kyralfrom Colony 3?12:28
frank23Kyral, I installed it from scratch12:28
frank23yeas12:28
DVSoftwareKyral: i've run in dependency problem few minutes before12:28
Kyralyah, I'm going upgrade12:28
Kyralthen Colony3 if it fails12:28
DVSoftwareforced it however12:28
DVSoftwarewe will see12:29
DVSoftwarei always have my ubuntu livecd12:29
KyralI'm getting a crappy DL rate12:29
Kyrallike 20 KBps12:29
Kyralits gonna take all night prolly12:29
DVSoftwareKyral: i got 250 kb/s12:29
Kyralfucker12:29
DVSoftwarewell12:29
frank23Kyral, i got up to 450 KB/s12:29
DVSoftwareit's little for my connection12:29
DVSoftwarei can get upto 8mb/s12:30
KyralI would be too if the mirror on campus didn't only host Hoary and Warty Repos12:30
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Kyralarchive.ubuntu.org?12:30
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DVSoftwareKyral: no max dl rate12:30
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DVSoftware:D12:31
Kyralyah, my uni is a bitch about downloading stuff12:31
KyralI assume you are downloading from a local mirror12:31
SeveasDVSoftware, yeah, i fon't have lan, just .11b wifi :)12:31
DVSoftwareSeveas: well, rarely i can get max speed12:31
DVSoftwaregot 7mb/s max once12:31
sexcopter8000mheh, Kyral :)12:32
sexcopter8000mi'm not a bot12:32
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Kyrallike I said, I wish my local mirror had up to date Breezy repos12:32
Kyralbut they aren't going to sync them again until the official release12:32
sexcopter8000mbut i do have upgrades sometimes :)12:32
DVSoftwarebut the downside of  my ultra fast internet connection is12:32
DVSoftwaredaily 1.5 gb transfer limit12:33
DVSoftware:S12:33
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Kyralgood lord is archive.ubuntu.com overloaded or something?12:33
KyralI'm down to 10kbps12:33
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frank23Kyral, Actually I'm using the canadian one12:34
frank23Kyral, you can try that one if you want12:34
Kyralwhats that address?12:34
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frank23ca.archive.ubuntu...12:34
Seveasca.archive.ubuntu.com12:34
Seveasse.archive is fast too12:34
DVSoftwareit's not overloaded12:34
DVSoftware00:35:24 (867.78 KB/s) - `Contents-amd64.gz' saved [8,720,015/8,720,015] 12:34
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KyralI assume the ca. prefix goes for the security mirrors too, right?12:35
DVSoftwarewell upgrade finished12:35
DVSoftwarenow pray for me12:35
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seliniumSeveas: I did it! Woo Hoo! I am almost a real *nix user!12:36
Seveashehe12:37
thoreauputicselinium: :)12:37
selinium8D12:37
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Kyral...I hate my uni...12:38
thoreauputicselinium: just don't get carried away and try to recompile X or something ;-)12:38
KyralI'm still getting pisspoor rates12:38
seliniumthoreauputic: not on my athlon 900.... no :)12:39
thoreauputicselinium: ;-)12:39
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Seveasselinium, *g* my athlon 900 is my main compile station :)12:39
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frank23Kyral, probably the uni limiting your bandwidth: "whatever they do online, they're up to no good!"12:39
feugan3333is security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu included in the apt sources.list by default. I mean is it enabled by default?12:39
Kyralyah...12:39
Seveasmaybe for breezy..12:40
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reagleBRKLNhelp: just bought a little laser printer, but can't configure it. cups reads "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing"12:40
robotgeekyeah, i think even my university is upto no good :)12:40
kevogodI installed 'linux-image-2.6.11-1-386' for Ubuntu and it locks up the whole system after I login, when the GNOME desktop appears. Are there any known issues with this version that would cause such a problem?12:40
SeveasreagleBRKLN, then do what it says...12:40
seliniumSeveas: My athlon 900 is my main machine. I have a 64bit athlon 3000 at work to play with, but i dont really want to break it just yet!12:40
thoreauputickevogod: yes12:40
Seveaskevogod, 2.6.11 packages are BROKEn and not meant to be used12:40
thoreauputickevogod: don't use 2.6.1112:40
Seveasselinium, *g*12:40
kevogodOK, thanks for that information. :-)12:41
Kyralso basically the kernel that Breezy is gonna install is broken?12:41
reagleBRKLNSeveas: can't, I type in my root password and it says authentication failed!12:41
robotgeekKyral: breezy uses 2.6.12 ??12:41
DewDudeoh, fun12:41
KyralI dunno12:41
SeveasreagleBRKLN, the menus need your password12:41
DewDudei get to take my linux box out of the house12:41
Seveasyou don't need a root password on ubuntu12:41
DewDudethis should be exciting12:41
kevogodI assume it is not the same kernel version.12:41
reagleBRKLNSeveas: I have a root password12:42
sexcopter8000mKyral: where are you at uni?12:42
Seveasrobotgeek, it does12:42
KyralI'm just wondering why its removing 60 some odd packages12:42
KyralClarkson12:42
reagleBRKLNi like to keep a root shell open12:42
Seveasjeez12:42
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Seveastalk about bad security...12:42
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thoreauputicreagleBRKLN: you can do sudo -i for a root shell12:42
reagleBRKLNdon't want to argue about whether i should have a root shell, want to print12:42
reagleBRKLNmy security is great :)12:43
NaliothDewDude: mounting it in your car?12:43
Kyralwhy is this removing VLC?12:43
SeveasreagleBRKLN, then use YOUR password in the menus12:43
DewDudeno12:43
DewDudei'm goin to my cousins12:43
reagleBRKLNSeveas: doesn't work12:43
DewDudeand...i'm leaving to go to more family members sometime early tomorrow morning...and i don't feel like fighting with his PC tonight12:43
reagleBRKLNroot@rootpwd; reagle@rootpwd; reagle@reaglepwd etc all fail12:43
thoreauputicreagleBRKLN: then you broke sudo, methinks12:43
DewDudeso i'm taking the iTux12:43
NaliothDewDude: oh. thought you was gonna pimp yo' ride with linux power12:43
DewDudehah12:44
Concord_Dawn!dist-upgrade12:44
ubotuNot a clue, Concord_Dawn12:44
reagleBRKLNthoreauputic: is there a way to back out?12:44
Concord_Dawnhmm12:44
SeveasreagleBRKLN, did you install with expert or server as boot option?12:44
robotgeekKyral: ifu are upgrading to breezy on PPC, vlc is broken!12:44
Concord_Dawnsomeone got a linky to how to do the distro upgrade with apt?12:44
KyralNo! No! Why is this dist-upgrade removing VLC12:44
Kyralrobotgeek, x8612:44
Concord_DawnKyral, because VLC is broken on Breezy.12:44
Kyral....12:44
reagleBRKLNSeveas: doen't remember (also, used kubuntu)12:44
KyralNOOOOOOOOOOO!12:44
Seveas!upgrade12:44
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:44
SeveasreagleBRKLN, in the terminal, type: sudo echo foo12:44
KyralOh wait....bored showed me a page on how to compile VLC in Breezy12:45
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy12:45
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces12:45
robotgeekKyral: linky?12:45
reagleBRKLNurd:/root> sudo echo foo12:45
reagleBRKLNfoo12:45
Seveasas NORMAL user12:45
NaliothKyral: yes, don't tease us12:45
Kyralrobotgeek, its somewhere on the Otaku Thread12:45
ChadzaSeveas: Thanks, got me a nice minimalist setup now.12:45
reagleBRKLNSeveas: oh, that fails12:45
Seveaswith which error?12:45
NaliothKyral: is that anywhere pittsburg?12:45
robotgeek:)12:46
reagleBRKLNSeveas: if i give it root passwd, it fails, if user passwd it works12:46
NaliothChadza: you're console-only?12:46
ChadzaYa12:46
thoreauputicreagleBRKLN: that's right12:46
SeveasreagleBRKLN, that's because sudo needs the USER password12:46
DewDudeits amazing my entire cd collection fits on a brick12:46
NaliothChadza: good man12:46
thoreauputic!tell reagleBRKLN about root12:46
ChadzaNalioth: All the clutter/distractions are gone.12:46
Kyralhttp://nanocrew.net/?p=129 <----There12:46
Seveasif that works, the menus (with YOUR password) work too12:46
thoreauputicreagleBRKLN: this is told you in the install, BTW12:47
ChadzaAnyone know how to run esd from a term and not have to leave that term with just it running?12:47
Seveasesd &12:47
NaliothChadza: yessir, i showed a friend of mine the light. he's console-only now (no xserver at all)12:47
pussfellerwhats gonna play mms:// streams, and what are they12:47
NaliothChadza: run anything from a terminal and end it with a &12:47
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Chadza*Seveas12:47
NaliothChadza: the & means to run and release the terminal back to you, the user12:47
ChadzaAh.12:47
DewDude well, with any luck...i should be back online in an hour or so12:47
ChadzaOnly been on nix for about 2/3 weeks now.12:48
Naliothpussfeller: mmsclient12:48
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Kyralokay12:48
DewDudedepends if i can get my cousins computer to peer-to-peer12:48
Naliothpussfeller: they are microsoft multimedia streams (wmv, asf, asx)12:48
Kyralwhy is this installing KDEBase?12:48
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DewDudewhich means i get to buy a crossover cable12:48
DewDudefun12:48
_lui_hello hello12:48
NaliothDewDude: better to buy a cheap switch12:48
_lui_how can I restore my Ubuntu default Icons??12:48
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Kyralwhy is the dist-upgrade installing kdebase?12:48
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Kyraland no, I don't run KDE12:49
ccfielhello ppl..12:49
_lui_excuse me, how can I restore my Ubuntu default cursors??12:49
SeveasKyral, since a new version of in installed package drags it in as a dependency12:49
thoreauputicKyral: did you have kde stuff installed?12:49
Kyralk3b....12:49
Seveas_lui_, use gcursor12:49
NaliothKyral: obviously something on your box uses something from kde12:49
DewDudewell12:49
thoreauputicKyral: there's your answer12:49
DewDudei actually have a switch12:49
Kyral******12:49
_lui_thanks Seveas12:49
DewDudei may just buy a cat5 cable12:49
Seveasuninstall k3b, dist-upgrade, try to reinstall it12:49
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ccfielhow do i make softlink..i think.. from /dev/ttySHSF0 to /dev/modem?12:49
Kyralit will just install kdebase then :P12:49
NaliothDewDude: that would be my recommendation12:50
ccfielhow do i make link..i think.. from /dev/ttySHSF0 to /dev/modem?12:50
Kyralmight as well do it now12:50
Seveasln -s /dev/ttySHSF0 /dev/modem12:50
DewDudei'm not 100% this thing works12:50
DewDudeit's not been used in ages12:50
NaliothKyral: just go ahead and install kubuntu-desktop12:50
thoreauputicccfiel: that will need sudo too12:50
DewDudei also don't see a linksys switch just...going bas12:50
DewDudebad12:50
KyralNalioth, hell no12:50
DewDudeanyway, i must shutdown12:50
DewDudelater12:50
Kyralthe less kde in my system the better12:50
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KyralK3B > all12:51
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Naliothdoes anyone know why the daily images aren't matching their md5s?12:52
Kyralmm?12:52
Naliothaug31 and todays dont match12:52
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KyralI wouldn't know12:52
KyralI'm dist-upgrading12:52
feugan3333When is the release date for breezy?12:52
KyralOct 1612:52
gn0meWhen I run fglrxinfo for my ATI video card.. I get: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:53
Kyral!ati12:53
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:53
feugan3333Ahh, thanks.12:53
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feugan3333Where did you get that info?12:53
NaliothKyral: unfortunately, hoary nor warty will install on my G5 imac. so i cant dist-upgrade12:53
Kyralfeugan3333, I forgot...I was fooling around in the Wiki a week ago and stumbled on it12:54
frank23what package should I get rid of that will remove all the gnome apps but let kubuntu-desktop there12:54
syndNalioth: cuz you suck12:54
Kyraluhh...12:54
BurgundaviaKyral, feugan3333 13th actually12:54
BurgundaviaKyral, feugan3333 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule12:54
Kyralyou should have started with a Kubuntu disk :P12:54
KyralClose enough :P12:54
frank23Kyral, I know but this is breezy12:55
feugan3333Yeah I know. I've probabily been to that page too. But can never find it when your actually looking for it.12:55
feugan3333Thanks Burgundavia.12:55
Kyraldunno then12:55
RiddellKyral: libgtk2.0-012:55
Kyralmanual removal12:55
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KyralRiddell, what?12:55
frank23Ridell ok12:55
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dvsoftware:S12:55
KyralI didn't ask the question :P12:55
KyralI <3 Gnome12:55
dvsoftwareupgrade process didn't finished12:56
syndxfce4!12:56
Kyraleh?12:56
dvsoftwareit stopped12:56
Kyralhowso?12:56
dvsoftwarewith error12:56
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Kyralabout what?12:56
dvsoftwarei thought it's done12:56
dvsoftwareand rebooted :S12:56
KyralDependency hell?12:56
dvsoftwareKyral: yeah12:56
dvsoftwarenow i've left here without xorg12:56
matthew_wHow would I run a TV out card in Ubuntu?12:56
Kyraltime to take the DPKG jackhammer to it!12:56
dvsoftwareircing with irssi12:57
Kyraljust AptGet the XOrg package12:57
dvsoftwareand upgrading the rest of packages12:57
Kyralso anyone know if the NVidia-Glx package works in Breezy yet? :P12:59
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dvsoftwarei'm getting errors that locale is missing12:59
dvsoftware:(12:59
Kyralfor nvidia?01:00
Oewyndoes anyone know where i can get some info on the new version of xsupplicant's .conf files... my config file broke in the upgrade.01:00
dvsoftwareKyral: no01:00
matthew_wYeah01:00
matthew_wNvidia01:00
dvsoftwareah that01:00
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Kyralmatthew, NFI01:00
Kyral!tv01:00
ubotuNo idea, Kyral01:00
Kyral...01:00
matthew_wKyral; NFI?01:00
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KyralNo F***ing Idea01:00
Kyral!nvidia01:00
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:00
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Kyraltry that, I'm sorry01:00
matthew_wS'ok!01:01
KyralSearch the Forums01:01
Kyral....I should get around to trying out my S-Video out port....01:01
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reagleBRKLNwell, i disabled root login, `sudo adduser cupsys shadow; sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart` as recommended in http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=1487301:03
reagleBRKLNcan now access admin functions through web01:03
KyralYou are talkin' greek to me pal01:03
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Kyraland it seems the this Dist-Upgrade is removing Firefox.....why!01:05
mumblesback01:05
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yonkel-lappyi am having some trouble with ubuntu on a laptop. i can get x to show up on an external monitor but not in the integrated lcd. is there something i am doing wrong?01:06
KyralBAD! BAD! NO REMOVE FIREFOX!01:06
IceDC571anyone know a guide tutorial on grip?01:07
gantchevbye01:07
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chiddyyonkel-lappy, what kind of laptop are you using and what kind of video card does it have?01:11
gn0meWhen I hit logout /w 1201:11
gn0meit hangs for like 30-40 seconds01:12
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gn0mein gnome. :-\01:12
zjddid i screw up during the installation, or does ubuntu not give you root acces besides 'sudo'?01:12
Kyralyou got it right01:12
Naliothzjd: ubuntu does not use root01:12
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yonkel-lappychiddy: dell inspiron 6000 with an intel 900 graphics accelerator01:12
Kyralonly through sudo01:12
dvsoftwarewhat a mess01:12
dvsoftware:S01:13
Nalioth!tell zjd about sudo01:13
gn0meBut if you wanted a root terminal, you can just sudo bash or something.01:13
zjdi know what and hwo to use sudo01:13
Kyraland please don't ask me how to enable root login because I will beat you01:13
bytefooyou can just do01:13
bytefoosudo su01:13
bytefoo:|01:13
bytefooand tada root :|01:13
dvsoftwarewho needs root?01:13
dvsoftware!root01:13
uboturoot is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:13
zjdi dont know if i like not having root access01:13
chiddyyonkel-lappy, rrrrgh, i don't know much about setting up dual displays on anything but nvidia, but i'll look around and let you know if I figure something out. In the mean time, if you can upload your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file somewhere it would be helpful01:13
Kyralzjd, you do01:14
dvsoftwarezjd01:14
Kyralthrough sudo01:14
dvsoftwaresudo -i01:14
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Kyraldvsoftware, shaddup, we don't want everyone running around as root01:14
dvsoftware:D01:14
zjdyeah, but i sometimes don't want to type... sudo root, Enter Password: every 3 minutes01:14
Kyralthis is one of the big reasons XP is so damn hackable01:14
zjdthis seems a little macosxish to me01:14
Kyraland there is anything wrong with that? :D01:15
yonkel-lappychiddy: it's not a dual display. i just can't get x to start on the lcd. it gives me a blank screen01:15
gn0meosx is sexy!01:15
Naliothzjd: you do have root access, just not through a root account01:15
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flughgeezus, emacs sucks01:15
bytefooyah, and only that first account01:15
zjdok, it is like osx heh01:15
bytefoounless you add more :X01:15
Kyralif you keep hitting sudo it shouldn't require a password every 3 minutes01:15
zjdi have my beloved root!01:15
FatDarreldvsoftware, you can always have sudo not accept passwords :) and also you can create a root user who has a passwd and always keep that shell open01:15
chiddyyonkel-lappy, oh so even if you have the external monitor disconnected the lcd is blank?01:15
zjdroot@silver/ #:01:15
zjdyay!01:15
gn0me:D01:15
gn0me\o/01:15
FatDarrelKyral, change the sudo time out value to01:15
Kyral*groan*01:15
FatDarrel3 days :)01:15
yonkel-lappychiddy: yes.01:15
KyralNo thanks01:15
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bytefoo:X:01:16
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KyralI use root as little as possible01:16
gn0meThe only time you ever NEED root is for a few things. :-\01:16
bytefooi need it all the time :-/01:16
Kyralin a day its maybe 3 times to update/upgrade01:16
bytefooi always get permission errors01:16
RedGhostwhy when i try and set a file to default open with program, or do "open with" does it always say "Cannot add application"01:16
gn0meI use it only for make install01:16
Kyralbytefoo, you shouldn't need to!01:16
gn0meand editing xorg.conf01:16
Pickle_Weaselis there an equalizer program for ubuntu? preferrably a rhythmbox addon?01:16
Kyralgn0me, you don't NEED make install01:16
Kyralapt!!01:16
KyralAPT!!01:16
bytefoo:/01:16
bytefooi needed it for mad wifi drivers01:17
gn0meYeah, but if there's no copy in the repository, I get sad.01:17
bytefooand aircrack, and kismet01:17
bytefooetc01:17
chiddyyonkel-lappy: is there anyway for you to upload your xorg.conf anywhere, it would help to look at it.01:17
bytefoobecause hoary was too old01:17
bytefooso all make install or build from breezy source :|01:17
bytefooand all that shizzle needs root :|01:17
yonkel-lappychiddy: ok give me a second and i'll be back01:17
Kyralsee, I make Bash Alias so its call one command01:17
Naliothgn0me: "make install" you are so yesterday.... 'checkinstall' is the new "make install" lol01:17
Kyralsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade turn into aptUI01:18
NaliothKyral: i have many aliases, and that's why i cant use anyone elses puter01:18
Kyralhehehe01:18
KyralI did that today01:18
zjddoes any debian package source work with ubuntu, or should i not cross-breed my /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:18
bytefookeep them on a usb key :/01:18
Kyraltold a guy to type "debI <package>" 'cause thats my alias for sudo dpkg -i01:18
Kyralno cross breeding!01:18
bytefoono is not correct01:19
bytefoobad is a little more correct ;)01:19
bytefoo:D01:19
zjdso only use ubuntu sources?01:19
Kyralshaddup!01:19
Kyralzjd yes01:19
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gn0meooh! drop shadows!01:19
zjdwhat happens when they don't have packages you want....?01:19
bytefoodid you add universe and multiverse?01:19
KyralYou can ask for a backport...01:19
CookedGryphonor they don't download01:19
Kyral!backports!01:19
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports01:19
bytefooumm backports are just updates dude01:20
bytefoo:-/01:20
Kyralactually not01:20
Kyral!extras!01:20
ubotuI guess extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:20
transparentdreamcan i get help with HPLIP?01:20
bytefooand worst comes to worse you find the deb and install it from freshrpms or somethin :-/01:21
bytefooor worst comes to worse comes to worse you build it :(01:21
Kyraljust stick to the Ubuntu repos01:21
CookedGryphonis tehre any picassa style program for organising photos in linux?01:21
Kyralyou CAN build it from Breezy source if you want01:21
bytefooif its there01:21
dvsoftwarei afraid that my system i so borked01:22
zjdsweet, that multiverse thing worked01:22
zjdi see my packages!01:22
bytefoo=D01:22
dvsoftwarebut... I'LL FIX IT!01:22
dvsoftwaregod damnit01:22
Kyral90% of the stuff people want is in the Universe/Multiverse/Backports/Extras01:22
bytefooyah01:22
Kyralwe can't be perfect....yet :P01:22
transparentdreamQuestion: Trying to install HPLIP, but when i try to ./configure it says no acceptable C compiler in $PATH01:22
KyralWhats HPLIP?01:23
bytefooi think you have to sudo apt-get install build-essential01:23
dvsoftwareahh :) aptitude is in da haus01:23
transparentdreamprogram that enables HP officejet through USB01:23
bytefooto install gcc and such01:23
Quinthiustransparentdream: have you installed gcc? (build-essential)01:23
gn0meIf I remove the Ubuntu CD as a repository.. will the stuff from the CD be accessed from the other repositories?01:23
transparentdreamuhh...01:23
bytefooyes gn0me01:23
gn0mek.01:23
Kyraltransparentdream, have you tried to plug it in and selecting "New Printer"?01:23
transparentdreamyes, i have tried01:23
zjdanyone know how i can kick my other "nick" off..? ( i am logged in at work still)01:24
transparentdreamit does not rexognize01:24
Kyralokay01:24
Kyralsudo apt-get install build-essential01:24
dvsoftwarewell, i think aptitude fixed dependency problem01:24
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bytefoois your nick registered?01:24
transparentdreamkk lemme try01:24
bytefooif so you just /msg nickserv ghost nickname password01:24
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KyralI am so glad I don't use Aptitude01:25
zdennisthanks bytefoo01:25
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kevogodWill CDs of Breezy be sent to me if I do not touch my Shipit account from when I requested CDs of Hoary?01:25
Pickle_Weaselis there an equalizer program for ubuntu? preferrably a rhythmbox addon?01:25
transparentdreamKyral, was it supposed to ask me for a cd?01:25
Pickle_Weaselsound equalizer*01:25
Kyralack!01:25
zdennisany ruby users here?01:25
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reiki!Alsa01:25
ubotuI heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:25
Kyralcomment out the CDROM repo in your sources.list and then update01:25
bytefoomaybe someone can tell me why i'm forced to use esound for the output plugin in xmms?01:26
Kyraland did I really need to reinstall Ubuntu-Desktop before this Dist-Upgrade?01:26
bytefooxmms just freezes with oss selected :|01:26
Kyralinstall the ALSA plugin01:26
dvsoftwareKyral: i didn't do that o_O01:26
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KyralI was talking to bytefoo01:27
bytefooahh01:27
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bytefoothat makes sense o_O01:27
zdennisanyone know if you can install different wallpapers to each monitor when running Xinerama, and stretching out the desktops?01:27
dvsoftwarewell i hope i didn't borked my system :S01:27
andrewskiis there any way to copy a group of subdirectories but have them maintain their hierarchy?  like selected subdirs of /usr and selected subdirs of /opt?01:27
Kyralcp -r01:27
DrajkaI'm trying to update my gfx drivers...01:28
andrewskiKyral: no, i don't want all of /usr, just (say) /usr/share and /usr/foo.01:28
Drajkai already downloaded the pack from the nvidia web site.. linux, amd54bit01:28
Naliothzdennis: you should be able to01:28
DrajkaBut...01:28
Drajkaer... amd 6401:28
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Kyralthen you should do multiple cps01:28
Drajkait's saying ti need to close X server before I can install01:28
Drajkao.O01:28
Kyralie, cp /foo/foo201:28
andrewskiKyral: well, when all's said and done, i may have a lot of dirs to copy: just got a new music player and want to copy some albums from each artist, but not all.01:29
andrewskiKyral: so a batch cp would be ideal: 20G will take all night, i reckon.01:29
kevogodDoes using Ubuntu increase your awareness of the world, universe, and humanity?01:30
Kyraldo it in all one command01:30
bob2just use rsync01:30
bob2kevogod: no, it's just a nice OS01:30
bob2with judicious use of the --ignore flag01:30
andrewskibob2: lol01:30
andrewskibob2: so rsync is where i should look?01:30
Kyral!ubutu tell transparentdream about backports!01:30
ubotuKyral: What?01:30
Kyral!ubutu tell transparentdream about backports01:30
ubotuKyral: I don't know01:30
Kyral!ubotu tell transparentdream about backports01:30
bob2andrewski: yes01:31
bob2Kyral: please?01:31
transparentdreamthx01:31
Kyraleh?01:31
andrewskibob2: ok, will check out; thanks.  (you always seem to have the answers!)01:31
bob2any quesion that involves copying large amounts of anything has an answer involving rsync01:31
NaliothKyral: enough already, i think transparentdream got the picture01:31
KyralI know nothing abotu rsync :P01:31
andrewskibob2: lol01:31
gn0meI am sad.  Every time I log into gnome it takes around three minutes. :-(01:31
andrewskiKyral: me either, surprise.01:31
bytefoo:(01:32
DrajkaI'm trying to update my gfx drivers...01:32
bytefooit must be hanging on something, check your logs :|01:32
Drajkai already downloaded the pack from the nvidia web site.. linux, amd64bit01:32
Drajkait's saying ti need to close X server before I can install01:32
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gn0meYeah, was just going to ask where I can view the output01:32
bob2Drajka: a) it's a lie, b) you're better off using the nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu, c) sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop01:32
bytefoonot sure, but i would guess one of the files in /var/log/01:32
gn0meaha, found it.01:32
bytefoodunno if it would be X or gnome or what tho01:33
gn0meThank you.01:33
Kyral!apt01:33
ubotuwell, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto01:33
dvsoftwarebob2: well01:33
dvsoftwareubuntu nvidia drivers01:33
Drajkahrm... Well, I need to change the refresh rate.01:33
dvsoftwarewon't work for me01:34
DrajkaAnd it isn't lettting me. ;/01:34
Kyral!ubotu tell transparentdream about apt01:34
bob2dvsoftware: which bug # is your report?01:34
dvsoftwarei didn't reported it :$01:34
dvsoftwarebut i got just blank screen after installing nvidia-glx01:34
NaliothKyral: you know you can /msg the bot and get all that done, right?01:35
dvsoftwarenvidia geforce 440 go01:35
Kyralwell, I guess the nvidia-glx package is busted still....01:35
andrewskibob2: so there's not going to be a GUI/DND way for this, eh?01:35
bob2no01:35
Kyralwhich means I get to compile the module myself!01:35
bob2wtf01:35
bob2how on earth would that help?01:35
Kyralhmm?01:35
bob2andrewski: what would a gui that let yo udo this look like?01:36
bob2Kyral: blank screen sounds very much like a minor refresh rate problem01:36
bob2do you have reason to believe otherwise?01:36
Kyralor that...01:36
dvsoftwarebob2: well01:36
Drajkabob2,01:36
dvsoftwarewith nvidia drivers01:36
dvsoftwareofficial01:36
DrajkaWhat can I do about my refresh rate01:36
DrajkaIm about to stab out my eyes01:36
bytefoorysnc is the sweet01:36
dvsoftwareit works fine01:36
Kyralsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:36
bytefooyou specify it in xorg.conf i think :|01:36
bytefooor that :-/01:36
dvsoftwarewith SAME xorg.conf01:36
andrewskibob2: a treeview filemanager in which i select multiple directories under /music and it copies them to a specified destination.01:36
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Drajkai tried to do that01:36
bob2dvsoftware: then file a bug already01:36
Drajkai tried01:36
DrajkaIt dosen't take it01:37
Drajkai tell it to go at 75hz01:37
dvsoftwarebob2: i'll do it01:37
bob2then file a bug as well01:37
Drajkait boots at 6001:37
andrewskibob2: or a FM with the notable addition of a 'retain folder hierarchy' option. :-D01:37
bob2and then read the wiki01:37
dvsoftwarewhen i finish upgrading01:37
Naliothdoes anyone have any idea why the md5s aren't matching the dailies? not for aug31 or today01:38
bytefoocorrupted download01:38
bob2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?01:38
Naliothbytefoo: incomplete download is what it looks like01:39
bytefooprobably01:40
yonkelchiddy, i cannot get the laptop to connect to the network either wirelessly or through the lan01:40
bytefoo99% of the time its something corrupted or incomplete01:40
bytefoothe other 1% is bad news bads :X01:40
yonkelchiddy, it looks like both eth0 (lan) and eth1 (wifi) are disabled somehow01:40
Naliothbytefoo: both wget and curl report "complete" d/l but when i look at the file (comparing the torrent hash with gtorrentviewer) there's lots missing01:41
bytefoooooh torrents01:41
chiddyokay, did you set them up in Gnome? You have to go to System > Administration > Networking, select the interface, click on Properties, check off this device is configured, select DHCP, click OK, then activate the card01:41
chiddyyonkel or open up terminal and try: sudo ifup eth001:42
yonkelchiddy, tried it on both ifaces and got nothing01:43
Naliothbytefoo: no torrents (nobody seeding the daily ppc image), i just compared the hash in the .torrent to what i d/l (that wget said was complete)01:43
chiddyyonkel: i think the 6000 uses the same broadcom lan card my 9300 has and it should work out of the box on ubuntu, that is strange01:43
Octaneanyone know how to change my country?01:43
Octaneit says "Moscow"01:43
Octaneand 3:43 am01:43
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OctaneNew orleans blogger: ed over the vast expanses of water that form the world's oceans.01:44
Octaneoops01:44
Octanehttp://ernieattorney.typepad.com/01:44
Octaneoops wrong channel01:45
yonkelyes. kde network settings are telling me that the devices are disabled and it won't let me use the administrator features because it doesn't do anything after i type my password into the prompt....is there some ubuntu specific way of enabling hardware?01:45
yonkelpreferably from the cli01:45
bytefoohmm01:45
chiddyyonkel: so your using KDE and not Gnome?01:45
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HrdwrBoByou're01:46
chiddyHrdwrBoB, if that's intended towards my bad english :P01:46
bytefoomaybe it was modified somehow Naolith01:46
bytefoolike the compression or so01:46
yonkelchiddy, yes. kde not gnome01:47
Naliothbytefoo: i'm not sure what happned01:47
Naliothdid it yesterday the same01:47
yonkelchiddy, kubuntu01:47
chiddyyonkel, okay let me see how to do it through the terminal01:47
bytefoowell does it work?01:47
JRlinuxI want both Gnome and KDE.  Should I install kubuntu and apt-get gnome or install ubuntu and apt-get KDE?  Does it matter?01:47
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chiddyJRlinux, shouldn't matter01:48
seliniumhow do i create a symlink?01:48
JRlinuxchiddy, OK, thanks01:48
bytefooln01:48
Kyralln -s <source> <target>01:48
Naliothselinium: ln -s01:48
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Concord_DawnDoes anyone here happen to know a free DVD burning program for Linux?01:48
KyralK3b....Gnomebaker....01:49
Kyraland this is Linux, everything is free :D01:49
JRlinuxConcord_Dawn, i LOVE k3b; have used it for many many CDs and DVD01:49
NaliothConcord_Dawn: several, k3b is best, but graveman, gnomebaker, gcombust, blah blah01:49
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seliniumCheer Nalioth, by the way while I had nautilus and ssh open to the remote server, issueing a shutdown did close the remote machine aswell01:49
chiddyyonkel, not sure if this will work, but open up konsole and type: sudo ifconfig eth0 dynamic up01:49
matthew_w!nvidia01:49
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:49
yonkelchiddy, will do01:50
Concord_DawnCheers Nalioth01:50
Naliothselinium: you issued the "shutdown" command on your box, and the other machine went down, too?01:50
Concord_DawnNow, can anyone tell me how to change Gnome's splash screen?01:50
Kyralthere is an FAQ on art.gnome.org01:50
seliniumNalioth: yep, i had to drive to the office to restart it.01:50
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Naliothselinium: you got major security problems, then01:50
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seliniumNalioth: both machines have the same user:password ie me01:51
Naliothselinium: doestn matter. the machine you're logged into should ignore any commands passed to your local machine01:51
seliniumNalioth: I havent done anything strange? I set up a shared key, would that have had any affect?01:52
flughive done something like that before, but was just my not realizing what computer i was logged into at the time. so i started changing my bash prompt color based ont he host01:52
yonkelchiddy, nothing. not even output.01:53
Naliothselinium: the remote machine should only obey commands you pass to it in its ssh session01:53
JRlinuxI have a Compaq AMD64.  I download Ubuntu 5.04 ?  It is 64 friendly?01:53
flughi did a 'reboot', and the friggin 'main server' went down, not the workstation i was sitting at (but was ssh'd to the main server)01:53
Naliothflugh: Surprise!01:53
flughNalioth, yeah, hehe, thank god it was a weekend and nobody was around to catch me ;)01:54
seliniumNalioth: I understand what you are saying. I am just trying to find out why :)01:54
Naliothall my boxen have distinctive machine names01:54
Naliothselinium: yes, we want to know01:54
yonkelchiddy, does ubuntu use the /etc/network/interfaces file like normal? maybe there is something in there01:54
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bob2it does01:55
chiddyyonkel, i have no idea i've never had a problem where i can't activate the network in ubuntu... but htat file should be standard between kubuntu and ubuntu01:55
seliniumNalioth: I just went through the standard system/log out/shutdown on my local machine. But i had ssh open and nautilus both locally and remote open. In the keyring.01:56
seliniumthere should be a comma after nautilus01:56
selinium:P01:56
dvsoftwareanyone using kde should check metatheme kde style/windows decoration01:56
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dvsoftwareit has abilty to load windows msstyles files01:56
chiddyyonkel, you already tried going to K > Control Center > Internet & Network > Network Settings > Administrator Mode > Select Network Interfaces (eth0) > Enable Interface, right?01:57
yonkelchiddy, i got it to work from /etc/network/interfaces by adding an entry for eth001:58
yonkelapt-getting xchat now and i'll see you from there and explain my issue01:58
yonkelchiddy, thank you so much for the help01:58
chiddyokay, see you then01:58
gn0meAnyone know any good way to sync an ftp dir with a local one?01:58
bob2use rsync01:59
bob2presumably you have ssh to them both01:59
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dvsoftwarebob2: and how without sshing01:59
bob2you wouldn't01:59
dvsoftwaredamn02:00
bob2I can't think of a non-warez situation where you'd need to do that02:00
bob2otoh, apt-cache search fxp02:00
dvsoftwarei have to mirror a copy of my web site ftp02:00
dvsoftwarefor backup purposes02:00
bob2oh, just copy it locally?02:01
bob2wget -r will do that02:01
dvsoftwarebecause i allready lost my data02:01
dvsoftwareonce02:01
dvsoftware-r ?02:01
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dvsoftwareand not -m ?02:01
matthew_wHey there guys02:01
matthew_wI set up the nvidia drivers, etc... now my question is, does anyone know anything about tv-out?  Because my OpenGL runs better now, but still no TV out support02:02
QMarioBob2, how can I run my Java programs?02:02
bob2so02:02
Naliothbob2: wget -r will copy the whole internet, if he's got links from the page (til it fills his HD)02:02
bob2that questoin sucks02:02
douglaschi all. i'm using ubutu 5.04 and i can only use the 640x480 resolution. how can i change this?02:02
bob2did you read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java yet?02:02
Naliothdvsoftware: you want wget -r -np -L <URL>02:02
QMarioBob2, yes.02:02
bob2Nalioth: on an ftp server?02:02
QMariomedia/usbdisk/HelloWorld.class not found in [file:/usr/share/java/gnujaxp.jar, file:/media/usbdisk/./] 02:03
QMario   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass (URLClassLoader.java:748)02:03
QMario   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass (ClassLoader.java:359)02:03
QMario   at java.lang.ClassLoader$1.loadClass (ClassLoader.java:1282)02:03
QMario   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass (ClassLoader.java:303)02:03
QMario   at java.lang.VirtualMachine.main (VirtualMachine.java:83)02:03
Naliothbob2: i should learn to read, eh?02:03
dvsoftwareNalioth: hm, i want to copy ftp02:03
dvsoftwareQMario: don't do that02:03
QMarioThat is my error.02:03
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QMarioDvsoftware, what is the limit for pasting lines?02:03
Naliothdvsoftware: then bob sent you the right variable02:03
dvsoftwareQMario: use pastebin for flooding02:03
intelikeywhat file prevents root login into ub gui ?02:04
bob2QMario: you need to show the command you ran too02:04
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NaliothQMario: 2 lines, please02:04
QMariojava /media/usbdisk/HelloWorld.class02:04
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dvsoftware!tell intelikey about root02:04
yonkelchiddy, ok here i am02:04
QMarioNalioth, okay. :(02:04
durtdouglasc: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?02:04
transparentdreamUh, can someone help with CUPS?02:04
intelikeywhat file prevents root login into ub gui ?02:04
dvsoftwarehm02:04
dvsoftware!root02:04
bob2I'm pretty sure that's not how you run java programs02:04
uboturumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:04
intelikeywhat file prevents root login into ub gui ?02:04
bob2intelikey: gdm, why do you want to disable it?02:04
yonkeli am typing on my laptop keyboard and view it on an external monitor02:05
bob2please don't repeat02:05
douglascdurt: nope, i'll try it right now02:05
intelikeybob2 /etc/gdm ?02:05
chiddyyonkel: i'm still here, did you get xorg.conf uploaded?02:05
bob2QMario: you'll need to find a java tutorial or something to show you how to run it02:05
yonkelchiddy, let me do that now02:05
QMario!Botsnack02:05
ubotuthanks qmario :)02:05
intelikeyno such file...02:05
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bob2QMario: I'm almostr certain you need to pass a class name, not a file02:05
bob2intelikey: why are you trying to do this?02:05
intelikeybob2 because i want to02:05
transparentdreamI can;t load up CUPS at http://localhost:631 for some reason. cupsys in installed, so what's wrong?02:06
bob2transparentdream: yes, it's disabled; use the gnome tool.02:06
bob2intelikey: good luck!02:06
Naliothtransparentdream: is your cups daemon running?02:06
bob2transparentdream: (system -> admin -> printing)02:06
intelikeyor is ubuntu the os for the people that will do what mine furror says ?02:06
transparentdreami dont know...02:06
chiddytransparentdream, try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart02:07
transparentdreamthe CUPS server could not be contacted02:07
transparentdreamok02:07
bob2intelikey: oh, stop it02:07
douglascdurt: what should i do next?02:07
bob2transparentdream: as above, the web interface is disabled02:07
Naliothbob2: i think my knowledge on some things is real old02:07
matthew_wI wonder if the bot will get fat.02:07
matthew_w!botsnack02:07
ubotuthanks matthew_w :)02:07
transparentdreamworks now02:08
transparentdreamThx :)02:08
bob2I don't think the web interface was even enabled in warty preview02:08
yonkelchiddy, http://www.bluefacemonkey.com/personal/xorg.conf02:08
transparentdreamAdministrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing. WHY IS IT DISABLED???02:09
durtdouglasc: you went through the questions and selected the resolutions and video drivers you want?02:09
transparentdream**from the CUPS site02:09
douglascdurt: yes02:09
chiddyyonkel: i'll look it over.. brb02:09
Concord_Dawntransgress, for security reasons? As it says in the line you just pasted?02:09
bob2transparentdream: how would you login without a root password?02:09
intelikeydvsoftware you sujested that root is disabled in ubuntu.   (via the bot) the only disabling of root is that the passwd is not set by defaule.   sudo passwd  fixes that minor oversite.02:09
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bob2"oversight"02:09
chiddyyonkel, i think i know what hte problem is, i hope :)02:09
matthew_wAnyone know anything about TV-Out, incidentally?02:10
DrajkaCan someone help me get the large (around 16000 pack) list of files on the Synaptic Package Manager?02:10
bob2transparentdream: if the gnome tool doesn't work for you, please do file a bug02:10
bob2Drajka: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepoistoryHowto02:10
transparentdreamok02:10
durtdouglasc: maybe you dont have your video drivers installed properly02:10
chiddyyonkel: look at Section "Device" and find the Driver "i810" line.... that the i810 to vesa02:10
transparentdreamhow do i file a bug/02:10
bob2transparentdream: what doesn't work for you with the gnome tool?02:10
DrajkaThis page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.02:10
chiddyyonkel: that the i810 = change the i810...02:10
Drajka=x02:10
Nalioth!tell Drajka about source02:11
yonkelchiddy, but that is the proper driver02:11
transparentdreamit won't recognize my printer even though it's a USB printer!02:11
bob2Drajka: and when you read the page, it has a list of similarly-named ones, one of which is the one I meant02:12
Concord_Dawntransparentdream, have you tried installing drivers?02:12
chiddyyonkel: well if i read correctly, the inspiron 6000 uses the i915 integrated card that is not supported by xorg 6.8.2 the version used by ubuntu, so that driver is actually incorrect... i think the new xorg in CVS is supposed to have the correct driver for the i91502:12
transparentdreamuh...how?02:12
Concord_Dawnby Googling?02:12
Concord_Dawngoogle "name of printer" drivers linux02:12
chiddyyonkel: vesa is more of a generic driver, but if it works then you may just have to wait until the new version of xorg is released02:13
yonkelchiddy, it's worth a shot. the laptoptesting team entry on the wiki says it worked fine tho02:13
bob2wtf02:13
transparentdreamok lemme try02:13
bob2transparentdream: what model printer is it?02:13
transparentdreamhp officejet k8002:13
intelikeybob2 yes oversight,  as in having an overseer.  some one watching over what i do with my software.   if i want root disabled i know how to do that. (console mode)  but i do not yet know where the 'dictators file' that locks out gui login of root is.02:14
bob2wtf02:14
bob2stop being such a prat02:14
intelikeyprat ?02:14
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Concord_Dawnintelikey, System->Administration->Login Screen Setup02:14
durtyeah whats a "prat"?02:14
Concord_Dawnintelikey, prat is an idiot.02:14
bimberitransparentdream: hoary has drivers for that printer, have you tried those?02:15
transparentdreamyes, it does not recognize my printer!! what should i do?02:15
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intelikeyConcord_Dawn ty    that should help me find it.      prat ? what language ?02:15
bimberitransparentdream: "does not recognise"? what do you mean?02:16
bob2intelikey: English02:16
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intelikeyhmmm i've never heard it said before.02:16
transparentdreamwhen i plug in my printer via USB, shouldn't it show up in the detected printers menu?02:16
bob2no02:17
bimberino02:17
transparentdreamoh...02:17
transparentdreamwell let me try agin then..02:17
bob2it might perhaps show up in the "add printer" "detected printer" list02:17
chiddyyonkel, how old is your laptop and do you happen to know what version the bios is?02:17
bob2if not, file a bug and use the manual thing02:17
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intelikeywarning     i'll bbl02:17
Gorth!multimedia02:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia02:17
bimberir4ndy: you need to cut short your post, it's too big02:18
bimberijust missed :)02:18
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bimberir4ndy: you need to cut short your post, it's too big02:18
chiddyyonkel: here's something that might be interesting - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4442602:19
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gn0meIs there any default "play a wav" prog?02:19
bob2play will02:20
gn0meBecause my gaim used to play sounds, now it doesn't.. but there's a little "command" option for sounds.02:20
bob2so should rhythmbox02:20
bob2that's more likely to be due to esd02:20
gn0meSome command-line one.02:20
chiddyyonkel: apparantly people have to use vesa for bios revision higher than A06 and A07, but i810 should work with bios A05... your bios could be too new02:20
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gn0meI tried "aplay" but they don't like.. uhh.. overlap.  So it'll go in queue rather than overlap.02:20
Concord_Dawntransparentdream, part is British slang.02:21
DewDudeit's nice having my entire system in a form that's easier to carry around02:21
bob2they won't overlap unless you get everything using dmix02:21
Concord_Dawnah02:21
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bob2installing esound-clients will probably get you a esd-aware wav player02:21
Concord_Dawnbob2, Rythymbox is already that.02:21
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bob2yeah02:22
DewDudeyay02:22
floehi all02:22
bob2but not particularily awesome to have gaim spawning on a regular basis02:22
DewDudenow that ubuntu is up and running02:22
gn0meYeah.. hmm.02:22
DewDudei can use my cousins POS PC to burn music02:22
floe i just installed kernel 2.6.12 k7 from breezy + madwifi drivers. In madwifi the ath-rate.onoe seems to be build for 686. Is that a known issue?02:23
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bob2is it in the BTS?02:23
QMarioCan anyone in this channel successfully run a Java program?02:23
AristoMagnussure02:23
AristoMagnusim running Azureus all the time02:23
popeyQMario: yes02:24
QMarioWhat is Azureus?02:24
mcphailIs there any way to install a 'live' ubuntu onto a portable hard disk (e.g. so it will detect hardware / configure X for whatever box it is plugged into)?02:24
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AristoMagnustorrent program02:24
QMarioPopey, how did you set it up?02:24
QMario!Java02:24
ubotufrom memory, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:24
popeysudo apt-get install java-package02:24
QMarioI did that...02:24
bob2QMario: this is a problem with how you're running the program02:25
popeyand?02:25
Concord_DawnCan anyone give me a crash course in setting up Qpopper?02:25
QMarioBob2, I am doing it the way the textbook says to run it?02:25
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popeyQMario: what do you get?02:25
NaliothQMario: sure. i run java apps alla time02:25
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QMarioPopey, I get errors.02:26
skajahow do i mount my windows hard drive in ubuntu02:26
QMarioHold on....02:26
popeyspecifically02:26
bob2Concord_Dawn: why not dovecot?02:26
AristoMagnus!apt source02:26
ubotuAristoMagnus: Wish i knew02:26
popeydon't paste them here if they're big02:26
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bob2qoppoer in ubuntu has no security support02:26
AristoMagnus!apt02:26
ubotumethinks apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto02:26
bimberi!tell skaja about windowsdrives02:26
Nalioth!tell AristoMagnus about sources02:26
QMariohttp://pastebin.com/35238802:27
skajai can go online with ubuntu02:27
skajai cant02:27
QMarioNalioth and popey, what commands do you use?02:27
Concord_Dawnbob2, pardon? What is dovecot?02:27
popeyQMario: that looks like java is working :D02:27
DewDudeyou know...the more i use ubuntu...the more i like it02:27
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popeyjust not the way you want it to02:27
bob2Concord_Dawn: a very nice imap/pop server02:28
dvsoftwarew00t02:28
NaliothQMario: i just run em by their absolutes (got em in my menu)02:28
dvsoftwaresuccessfully upgraded all packages02:28
NaliothQMario: or i start em ./javaprogram02:28
Concord_Dawnbob2, does it provide compatibility with Postfix?02:28
dvsoftwarerebooting02:28
QMarioPopey, there is an error.02:28
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popeyQMario: "java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError" has quite a few hits on google02:28
dvsoftwarepray for me02:28
bob2Concord_Dawn: that's how I get my mail02:28
Concord_DawnThat's not the question.02:28
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popeyQMario: is the JAVA_HOME environment variable set?02:29
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yonkeltronchiddy: i think i need to call it quits for the evening02:29
skajawhat do i do with this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:29
AristoMagnusthis one works for you? deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./02:29
Concord_Dawnbob2, you still haven't answered my question.02:29
AristoMagnus!horde02:29
ubotuNo idea, AristoMagnus02:29
chiddyyonkeltron, okay... see you later02:29
bob2Concord_Dawn: wtf? of course it works with postfix.02:29
Naliothskaja: instructions are included at the top. open it with a text editor and read it02:29
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bob2how could you make a pop3 server incompatible with an mta?02:30
Concord_DawnI'm simply asking, mock me not on my ignorance.02:30
skajai cant copy thing over to linux02:30
bob2Concord_Dawn: yes, it is compatible, and "that's how I get my mail" does indeed answer your question02:31
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bob2any MTA is compatible with any pop3 server02:31
QMarioPopey, what is that?02:31
skajai could use a floppy02:31
bob2it may require more or less fiddling, tho02:31
Concord_Dawnbob2, "That's how I get my mail" doesn't really.02:31
QMarioI don't think so....02:31
QMarioHow do I set it?02:31
popeyQMario: an environment variable, type "env" and look see if there's one called JAVA_HOME...?02:31
AristoMagnus!webmail02:31
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, AristoMagnus02:31
dreamieis there a command to see when a person last spoke?02:31
Concord_Dawnit implies that you use Dovecot.02:31
bob2well, I thought it was clear, but anyway02:31
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yonkeltronchiddy: i want to thank you for your help02:32
bob2I'd strongly recommend using dovecot02:32
NaliothAristoMagnus: what are you after?02:32
chiddyyonkeltron, no problem, happy to help :)02:32
Naliothdreamie: not in here02:32
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popeyQMario: http://www.dougsparling.com/comp/howto/linux_java.html02:32
Naliothdreamie: /whois that person02:32
AristoMagnusNalioth: im trying to configure my horde webmail02:32
QMarioPopey, none.02:32
QMario:(02:32
popeythat's probably why then02:32
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AristoMagnusNalioth: I see Horde2 and Horde3 install, but not in /var/www02:33
NaliothAristoMagnus: on that, you're better off asking uncle google, cuz poor ubotu has no clue02:33
AristoMagnushehe i see that ;)02:33
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AristoMagnusim already on google ;)02:33
popeyQMario: you need to find out where java was installed...02:33
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popeyQMario: on my machine it's set to JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2re1.4-sun02:33
popeycan an op ban that r4ndy guy?02:34
bimberiseconded02:34
bob2for having a slightly bouncy connection?02:34
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Naliothi'm dreading the flood that r4ndy is bringin.. .. ..02:34
popeyhe's not bouncing he's joining, flooding/spamming, and being kicked IMO02:34
QMarioPopey, how do I set it?02:34
bimberi"Excess Flood" = bouncy connection?02:34
bob2where is he flooding or spamming?02:35
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skajaoh root can be turned on02:35
bob2yes02:35
bimberino-one, only attempting02:35
Madpilothi all02:35
popeyQMario: mine is set in /etc/bash.bashrc02:36
popeyJAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2re1.4-sun02:36
popeyexport JAVA_HOME02:36
bob2r4ndy appears to just be annoying, not malicious02:36
matthew_wWhat's a good terminal?02:37
bob2xterm02:37
matthew_wI want something cool, with actual transparency, not just an annoying image of the background.02:37
matthew_wlol02:37
bob2then there isn't one02:37
QMarioPopey, what is the default for setting the environmental variables?02:37
popeyi disagree bob2, he's joined many times from different hosts, exhibiting the behaviour of a spammer02:37
popeyi just pasted it QMario02:37
QMarioDefault file name, I mean.02:37
QMarioThat's the default?02:37
skajahow come ubuntu does not have gnome ppp on the cd02:37
popeythat's where mine is02:38
matthew_wbob2; there's none with true transparency?02:38
bob2popey: yes, hence why I asked an oper, who said he/she just appears to be an idiot02:38
popeybob2: do a /whowas r4ndy02:38
bob2matthew_w: indeed02:38
popeyoh, ok02:38
bob2matthew_w: transset lets you make random apps transparent02:38
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NaliothQMario: if it pleases you, here's my show-n-tell export PATH="$PATH:/opt/IBMJava2-ppc-142/bin"02:38
Madpilotmatthew_w: have a look around the forums, there's an interesting eyecandy terminal setup there somewhere02:38
bob2but you'll soon realise that it's just annoying02:38
anomalyis there not a base install iso? the 568mb iso installs the kitchen sink as it were. I would like just the basic kernel, cli tools and apt-get what I want from there myself.02:38
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QMarioPopey, can you paste your /etc/bash.bashrc file, so I can see if it is the right file?02:39
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chiddymatthew_w, especially when x crashes every 30 seconds02:39
popeyi just pasted the two lines you need02:39
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bob2anomaly: read the help when you first boot it02:39
QMarioNalioth, you are using a Macintosh?02:39
anomalybob2 ty02:39
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QMarioPopey, what does it exactly say in the "/etc/bash.bashrc" file?02:39
NaliothQMario: yessir02:39
stan-amcan anyone give me a hand installing a genius webcam?02:40
popeyQMario: I JUST posted it02:40
popeyscroll up02:40
bob2I think you'd want a server instal02:40
QMarioSomething tells me I am in the wrong file. :(02:40
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stan-amcan anyone give me a hand installing a genius webcam?02:40
dug____Any way to enable sata support in the ubuntu installer?  I need libata and ata_piix apparently.02:40
cafuego!beagle02:41
ubotuhmm... beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto02:41
popeydug____: i installed on a sata disk with no extra options specified recently02:41
Madpilotdug____: ubuntu installed just fine to my SATA disc w/o any extras...02:41
popeysnap!02:41
bob2dug____: there's nothing to enable...02:41
Madpilotpopey: gotcha... ;)02:41
matthew_wchiddy; I'02:41
bob2stan-am: no need to ask over and over; I'd try askin on the mailing list, tho02:41
stan-amhey doods, any urls i can use to install a genius webcam?02:41
cafuegodug____: libata is a 2.4 kernel feature afai; in 2.6 they use the scsi system; should just work, unless your hardware is too new.02:41
matthew_wchiddy; I'll take it you don't use x.02:41
stan-amthnx bob202:41
neighborleestan-am, if doesn't work with the gnome webcam util that comes with ubuntu then try here: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php < and/or asking on Mailing List02:42
chiddymatthew_w: yeah I use X... its just that xrender and transset are really buggy right now and turning them on makes things crash and the windows transparency drives you insane after awhile02:42
stan-amgnome webcam util? whats that?... im such a noob sorry02:42
cafuegostan-am: try coriander02:43
chiddymatthew_w, its nice eye candy but it needs to be perfected still02:43
cafuego(not cilantro)02:43
QMarioPopey, I still have the error. :(02:43
stan-amcan i find that on synaptic?02:43
popeyQMario:  did you close terminal and login again?02:43
stan-amcoriander wasnt recognized02:43
popeyQMario: check your env vars again.. is it set>?02:43
Madpilotstan-am: do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?02:43
cafuego!info coriander02:43
ubotucoriander: (control IEEE1394 digital camera), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 1.0.0-r-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 116 kB, Installed size: 380 kB02:43
cafuegostan-am: Well, it does exist.02:43
stan-ami do, i already found it and its being installed02:44
stan-amthnx fellas02:44
neighborleestan-am, kewl02:44
QMarioPopey, huh?02:44
neighborleestan-am, sorry I could not remember name of app ...dont use it not having working webcam in linux atm ;(\02:44
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popeyi previously suggested you type "env" and see if there was a JAVA_HOME, you just placed the setting in your bash file, now run env again and see if you have an env var called JAVA_HOME02:45
popeyif not then you probably need to close your terminal and open a new one for the change to take effect02:45
popey(or just run bash)02:45
djurI'm getting an error for a package I just downloaded of "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"02:45
stan-amwhats that neighborlee?02:45
djuranyone know how to determine what is using it and free it?02:45
bob2djur: close the other instance of apt, aptitude or synaptric that you have running02:45
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djurah02:46
QMarioPopey, it's still not there.02:46
popeyright, have you closed terminal and opened a new one?02:46
QMarioI even used the file you told me to use.02:46
QMarioNo.02:46
popeydo so then as I suggested02:46
billytwowillyis there a good samba print sharing howto out there? The samba.org docs are WAY too technical for me. I just want to share my printer with a windows laptop and an ubuntu laptop..02:46
billytwowillyor maybe a gui tool to set it up like in suse/redhat/mandriva?02:47
stan-amneighborlee im getting an error saying :" warning: could not get a handle to your IEEE 1394 card.02:47
popeybillytwowilly: I dont use samba for that, but just use xp to print to the ipp printer02:47
stan-amany ideas on that?02:47
AristoMagnusbillytwowilly: apt-get install webmain02:47
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AristoMagnusbillytwowilly: apt-get install webmin02:47
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AristoMagnusbillytwowilly: apt-get install webmin-samba02:47
AristoMagnuseasiers way02:47
billytwowillyk, thanks02:47
wolkihow do I apply a patch to source code?02:47
neighborleestan-am, was just saying I dont have a webcam for linux right now .....02:47
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stan-amneighborlee did u read the error message?02:48
QMarioPopey, I did. It is there, but is still does not run. :*02:48
stan-amany idea what that means?02:48
QMario:(02:48
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QMario!Botsnack02:48
ubotu:)02:48
popeyQMario: did you set it to the right location?02:48
popeyQMario: to where java is *actually* installed?02:49
QMarioYes.02:49
QMarioYes.02:49
billytwowillyAristoMagnus, what port does webmin run on?02:49
Madpilotstan-am: IEEE 1394 = Firewire - is it a firewire camera?02:49
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neighborleestan-am, yeah I honestly have no clue...dont have a webcam so im little help02:49
stan-amits just a genius webcam v4 usb cam02:49
QMario"/usr/lib/sun/bin"02:49
brennerQMario: you're making ubotu fat. :)02:49
neighborleestan-am, try the Mailing List at: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=contact02:49
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Naliothbrenner: are you back again?02:50
stan-amthnx neighboorlee02:50
stan-amwhat is firewire madpilot?02:50
neighborleeyour welcome02:50
benplauthello everyone :)02:50
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dug____thanks for your help.  unfortunately the installer isn't working at all.  i have a year old dell02:50
popeyQMario: that's not where it is on my machine..02:50
neighborleebenplaut, hi02:50
cafuegoWhat is the name of the utility that processes files in config directories?02:50
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cafuegorun-parts, ok02:50
brennerNalioth: for about an hour, yep....then i'm off to work02:50
neighborleecafuego, I think your after gconf02:50
Naliothwork?02:51
zdennisi just added a nfs mount to my fstab...w/o rebooting how can i mount it to see if i entered it correctly?02:51
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cafuegoneighborlee: No, run-parts; you're far too late02:51
JRlinuxOne more time-- I want to download the latest/best Ubuntu for 64 machines.  Which one do I download?02:51
zdennismount -a        ?02:51
brennerNalioth: you been in here all this time?02:51
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Madpilotstan-am: a different system from USB - have you asked google about your camera & linux?02:51
neighborleecafuego, LOL good enough02:51
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Naliothbrenner: dropped some glue in my chair last night02:51
stan-amyeah i did madpilot, followed the instructions but its not takin it02:51
xsquaredhi, is there a package that i can get that contains the win32 codecs so i can play wma's and wmv's?02:51
stan-amwhat d you do with that error message madpilot?02:51
zdennisxsquared, you should convert yoru wmas to mp3s and then play them02:52
Naliothxsquared: w32codecs02:52
Madpilotstan-am: like neighborlee, I don't have a webcam, so I don't know specifics...02:52
brennerNalioth: yep, work. i'm not just an #ubuntu addict after all. :)02:52
popeyzdennis: !02:52
stan-amdarn... arright02:52
stan-amnevermind then, thnx for ure help anyway02:52
popeyzdennis: that's mad02:52
xsquaredzdennis, you can't if you can't play them02:52
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zdennisxsquared,  you can to, it's called mplayer02:52
zdennisuse the command line one!02:52
xsquaredMadpilot, its not listing under apt-cache search02:52
QMarioPopey, where is it then?02:52
zdennisunless mplayer has i'ts own codecs02:52
zdennis...?02:52
popeyQMario: where i pasted earlier02:53
Madpilotxsquared: sorry, what isn't?02:53
zdennisanywho...you should stilll convert them02:53
xsquaredzdennis, it doesn't have its own codecs02:53
zdenniswmas are bloated02:53
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xsquaredi know02:53
xsquaredi wouldn't even use mp302:53
IceDC571anyone here using a mac?02:53
omp342hello, ubuntu users02:53
xsquaredid use OGG02:53
popeyzdennis: that's daft. you definately should NOT re-encode from one lossy format to another02:53
xsquaredogg > all.02:53
IceDC571flac > all02:53
popeyzdennis: if anything you should re-encode the original02:53
NaliothIceDC571: yes i use a mac02:53
kyncanixsquared: you should have instructions to install w32codecs on ubuntu wiki i think02:53
xsquaredIceDC571, no, such a big file02:54
bob2ogg isn't a codec02:54
bob2vorbis is02:54
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DewDudeEWW02:54
DewDudei just put headphones on this thing02:54
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DewDudei think the audio settings are whacked02:54
robotgeekIceDC571: yup02:54
DewDudecuz everything sounds overloaded02:54
Naliothbob2 why IS r4ndy s IP changing?02:54
ZotnixTrying out Ubuntu Breezy in VMWare02:54
xsquaredneighborlee, thanks ! :)02:55
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ZotnixIf Cairo is making everything look so crisp... yay Cairo.02:55
neighborleexsquared, np02:55
zdennisis there a way to tell XMMS to look in all subdirectories for mp3s to add to library? instead of manually selecting files02:55
robotgeekzdennis: select the directory and say add02:55
xsquaredyeh02:55
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IceDC571Nalioth, what format do you rip your cds to in OSX? im planning to get an iMac soon02:55
xsquaredxmms sucks anyway02:55
QMarioPopey, I changed it to this "/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun".02:56
xsquaredbeep-media-player <302:56
QMarioIt still won't work02:56
cafuegoIceDC571: iMacs G5 apparently can't run Ubuntu yet.02:56
zdennisrobotgeek... i dotn get that option02:56
QMarios/" "/.02:56
ZotnixI have grown fond of rhythmbox to be honest.02:56
zdennisrobotgeek, i get "Add Selected Files", "Add all files in directory"02:56
NaliothIceDC571: i have installed the lame thing to my mac(s)02:56
cafuegoQMario: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions02:56
NaliothIceDC571: aac is nice, but not universally accepted02:56
xsquaredzdennis, it will only add the files it can play02:56
bob2Nalioth: it's not02:56
zdennisi want to say "Add all files in this directories and recursively ina ll subdirectoreis"02:56
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bob2Nalioth: it's using tor02:56
zdennisah02:56
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bob2wtf02:57
zdennisall i have are mp3s02:57
robotgeekzdennis: hold the add sign, it pops up add directory02:57
zdennisit adds them individually02:57
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Naliothbob2: i'm in need of education on tor. link? or what is it?02:57
bob2Nalioth: tor.eff.net02:57
cafuegoNalioth: anonymiser02:57
Naliothcafuego: ah02:57
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cafuegoNalioth: useful for script kiddies and not much else.02:57
ZotnixWelp, just converted my friend from Mandrake to ubuntu02:57
zdennisit doesn't work how i want...darnit02:57
ZotnixSorry02:57
Naliothwell, better off without him, i say02:57
ZotnixMandriva02:57
IceDC571Zotnix, how did you do it?02:58
QMarioPopey?02:58
ZotnixSeems mandrake didn't like his computer... he had to manually pass acpi=off to his kernel02:58
zdennisI have /home/zdennis/music    inside there i have 200 different directories of music. Why can't I click "Add" on "music"?02:58
ZotnixAnd it was giving him problems.02:58
bytefoohmm...my laptop won't shutdown...02:58
QMarioWhere are you?02:58
ZotnixUbuntu automatically worked02:58
bytefooit hangs at power down...02:58
ZotnixAnd turned off acpi for him02:58
IceDC571i see02:59
ZotnixMy other friend said wireless worked right out of the box  for his laptop. he converted there :p02:59
ZotnixI've converted.. hrm... 3 people to ubuntu02:59
IceDC571yeah wireless worked out of the box all the time for me while using ubuntu02:59
robotgeekzdennis: click + file for abt 2 secs, then for the expanded menu, select + dir , and select ur music folder02:59
DewDudeheh02:59
DewDudea mac user converted me to ubuntu02:59
robotgeeki converted from mac OSX to ubuntu myself02:59
kspathI am running ubuntu on my iBook now02:59
DewDudemost because i said "gentoo doesn't support half my stuff"02:59
IceDC571why would you convert from OSX?02:59
IceDC571whats not to like about it?03:00
DewDudeand he's like "ubuntu has full imac support"03:00
DewDudei could get OSX03:00
DewDuderight now03:00
Naliothbob2: ty03:00
DewDude2.2 GB ISO image03:00
DewDudeSTANDARD iso03:00
DewDudenot that apple-disk crap03:00
QMarioDid popey leave?03:00
QMario 03:00
kspathubuntu is better  I have support for my ext plextor DVD burner and epson stylus scan 2500 multifuntion now that MacOSX would not I can scan and printer great with ubuntu03:00
NaliothIceDC571: it's not FOSS03:00
robotgeekIceDC571: I prefer to configure the way i like my OS to work, and i don't prefer the environment which apple gave to me03:01
billytwowillywhat is the default spool directory in ubuntu?03:01
NaliothIceDC571: it is very nice, but i have more freedom running ubuntu on my mac(s)03:01
DewDudeheh03:01
DewDudemy clock is all wrong03:01
robotgeekrobotgeek: plus, ubuntu is free as in freedom!03:01
billytwowilly/var/spool/cups ?03:01
bob2billytwowilly: spool of what?03:01
DewDudeagain..ubuntu ignores my settings03:01
bob2oh, printer03:01
robotgeekDewDude: ntpdate :)03:01
billytwowillybob2, my hp7150 printer03:01
kspathubuntu is free      MacOSX update was going to be 130$03:01
DewDudeheh03:01
bob2DewDude: ignore what?03:01
IceDC571i'd rather run ubuntu on x86's but thats just my opinion03:01
zdennisrobotgeek, i must be doing something wrong. Is this all within the "Add files to media library" ...window?03:02
DewDudewell, it was saying it didn't have my timezone03:02
DewDudeso i set it03:02
IceDC571im pissed now that apple is using intel chips03:02
DewDudeand....it's displaying GMT03:02
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DewDudenot local time03:02
brennerIceDC571: you'd prefer amd? ;)03:03
bob2DewDude: /etc/default/rcS03:03
IceDC571brenner :)03:03
brenneri thought i read somewhere it wasn't such a bad thing.03:03
DewDudeyup03:03
DewDudethere it is03:03
DewDudeUTC=yes03:03
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IceDC571its not a bad thing but now windows users will get spoiled with OSX03:04
ZotnixHrm. I prefer ubuntu for Mac OS X and Windows, personally03:04
DewDudeumm03:04
Zotnixover*03:04
ZotnixRather03:04
AgrajagIceDC571: what are you talking about?03:04
robotgeekzdennis: we are talking abt xmms, right?03:04
Agrajagmacs will still be macs03:04
DewDudeplans are the x86 version of OSX won't boot on non-apple hardware03:04
Agrajagyeah03:04
bob2DewDude: is your hardware clock really set to GMT?03:04
ZotnixDewDude: I'll give Linux hackers a few days for that :p03:05
Agrajagit'll only work now if it's hacked a bit03:05
DewDudeHAH03:05
IceDC571ohh okay, then thats much better03:05
DewDudei don't know03:05
DewDudewhen i got this thing03:05
DewDudeMacOS wasn't saving time03:05
zdennisrobotgeek...i am a moron03:05
ZotnixOh03:05
DewDudeevery time the OS would reboot the time would be ALL off03:05
ZotnixOther way around03:05
zdennisthanks for your help and patience03:05
DewDudei thought it was a dead battery, but that checks out03:05
brennerIceDC571: what's so bad about that?  they'll finally be enlightened. :)03:05
DewDudeand it's holding time now03:05
ZotnixBut basically Apple says Windows can boot from their Hardware, right?03:05
ZotnixBut not the other way around03:05
kspathinternal battery in your old mac messed up   losing memory of time?03:05
Agrajagthey said they will not prevent windows from booting03:05
Agrajagbut why bother with windows on a mac?03:06
robotgeekAgrajag: games :)03:06
AgrajagYou could run the program in wine, or just run windows in a VM03:06
Agrajagoh pfft03:06
DewDudeno03:06
DewDudethe battery is good03:06
kspathYou would have to pay me to run windows03:06
Agrajagif you want to play games, you don't buy a mac03:06
DewDudeand ever since i put gentoo on...it kept time03:06
Naliothwe are kinda gettin offtopic here03:06
zdennisxmms is freezing....crap03:06
robotgeekNalioth: sorry!03:06
robotgeekzdennis: get beep-media-player :)03:07
DewDudeit's just i got timezones all screwed up..i don't know what my hardware clock is set to..i can't check it in BIOS like a x86 machine03:07
zdennisis it better?03:07
Zotnixbeep-media-player doesn't have as many plugins, no?03:07
robotgeekzdennis: much better :)03:07
ZotnixI haven't viewed the project in awhile03:07
DewDuderoot@iTux:/etc/default # date03:07
DewDudeFri Sep  2 01:07:10 UTC 200503:07
robotgeekZotnix: not really a plugin person!03:07
kspathDewDude set up ntpd03:07
DewDudei did that in kde03:07
DewDudeor, already did that03:07
DewDudecuz it syncs during boot03:07
DewDudeit was AFTER i did that the time went all whack on me03:08
bob2DewDude: why is your timezone set wrong?03:08
ZotnixBreezy is looking gorgeous03:08
robotgeekDewDude: if you want to change the UTC setting, take a look at /etc/default/rcS03:08
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Devrethmanhello03:08
brennerZotnix: iirc, bmp can use xmms plugins03:08
brennerso there's no excuse. :)03:08
ZotnixYou need to recompile with gtk2 no?03:08
poningruguys I had a question03:09
ZotnixAnd sometimes that doesn't work03:09
robotgeekZotnix: for the most part, except for the plugin info/help03:09
DewDudebob: i've got no idea03:09
ZotnixI use rhythmbox anyways03:09
DewDudei'll be the first to admit...for the last 10 years i've been a windows man03:09
zdennisrobotgeek, i got it up and going, maybe my nfs share just sucks03:09
DewDudenever messed with linux03:09
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poningruthere is some strange beeping sound coming from my laptop how do I determine the source of it?03:09
ZotnixIt plays my mp3s fine03:09
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zdennisi am pulling from another box03:09
poningruits coming from the speakers03:09
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bob2DewDude: sudo tzconfig03:09
brennerponingru: system bell?03:09
Madpilotponingru: it's about to blow up? :)03:09
robotgeekzdennis: xmms is dead!03:09
Zotnixxmms2 is in the works03:09
zdenniswell beep-media-player froze to03:09
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zdennis=(03:09
Zotnixmy friend is a hacker on that project03:09
poningrubrenner: its beeping continuasly(sp)03:09
djurdoes ubuntu come set up with a "swap" file?03:09
zdenniswhen i try to play a song03:10
ficusplanetHey everyone.  I'm having trouble with a breezy install.  I made it into the second phase, but dpkg bailed on me and now apt-get says "run dpkg --configure -a".  But that fails with the following message:03:10
poningruMadpilot: rofl03:10
brennerzdennis: changed the outpu plugin?03:10
brenner*output03:10
DewDuderoot@iTux:/etc/default # tzconfig03:10
DewDudeYour current time zone is set to America/New_York03:10
poningruwtf its not stoping03:10
djurI'm running on limited RAM.. and it seems like it just freaking flops when I open too much stuff...03:10
bob2DewDude: did you change that lately?03:10
poningruits got a pattern of sorts03:10
ficusplanetdpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed03:10
zdennisi haven't yet....03:10
djurI'm thinking no swap file.03:10
DewDudelast night03:10
ficusplanetAny ideas?03:10
zdennisi will try03:10
DewDudeafter i enabled ntp03:10
poningruI think it is morse code03:10
poningruwtf03:10
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bob2DewDude: does" TZ=America/New_York date" print the right time?03:10
robotgeekponingru: turn off sound events03:10
robotgeekponingru: system -> preferences -> sound03:11
DewDudeno03:11
Devrethmanfor some reason the installer always hangs for me during the partitioner03:11
zdennisALSA output doesn't work, i get an error03:11
DewDudeerr03:11
DewDudeyeah03:11
DewDudeit does03:11
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zdenniseSound works!03:11
zdennissweet03:11
zdennisthanks brenner!03:11
DewDuderoot@iTux:/etc/default # TZ=America/New_York date03:11
DewDudeThu Sep  1 21:11:11 EDT 200503:11
DewDudepurely random03:11
robotgeekzdennis: cool03:12
DewDudeheh03:12
poningruwtf it stopped03:12
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owen_collect2: cannot find `ld' -- any thoughts?03:12
Devrethmanit gets stuck at "det03:12
poningruit wasnt the sound events though03:12
Devrethmanecting disks or something like that03:12
brennerzdennis: common issue unfortunately03:12
zdennishow to you tell beep-media-player to shuffle songs?03:12
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bob2owen_: install build-essential03:12
gusto5hi a quick question. what media player will handle .avi files?03:12
Devrethmanxine03:13
gusto5( Network Stats ) Device: eth0 | Hostname: amd1400 | Data: In: 26.8 MB ( 19.34K/sec ) Out: 12.6 MB ( 9.10K/sec ), Total: 39.4 MB [ In 68.0% | Out 32.0% ]  ( 28.44K/sec )03:13
bob2gusto5: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:13
brennerzdennis: there's a button next to the eject button03:13
gusto5thank you, bob203:13
robotgeekzdennis: yeah, also get a better skin :)03:13
bob2gusto5: please fix your IRC client...03:13
brennerzdennis: bit hard to find with the default skin03:13
bob2DewDude: logging out should fix it then03:13
gusto5bob2 what is wrong with my IRC client?03:13
DewDudewell03:13
DewDudeit was like that LAST night03:13
owen_bob2, no change.03:13
DewDudei've changed nothing03:13
DewDudei've rebooted03:13
zdennisok, i will seach google for sknns03:13
DewDudethe clock in KDE still came up with 1 an03:13
DewDudeam03:13
brenner!players03:13
ubotuAudio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Xine, Mplayer03:13
robotgeekzdennis: get them from the link on bmp page03:13
gusto5bob2, whats wrong with my client?!03:14
bob2owen_: er, are yo usure?03:14
tom17hHey all -- I've recently upgraded to breezy to try out beagle. It's not indexing any files. Anyone here know how I might find out why?03:14
poningruwtf was that I wonder03:14
bob2gusto5: it's spouting statistics at the channel03:14
owen_bob2, let me double check.03:14
gusto5bob2, how do i fix that? im not aware of that happening...03:14
bob2gusto5: no idea03:14
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JRlinuxanyone know how ez it is to get an all-in-one printer/scanner/copier going on Ubuntu?03:14
gusto5now bob2?03:14
owen_bob2, yeah, installed.03:15
bob2JRlinux: depends entirely on what it is; look at the linux printing website03:15
MadpilotJRlinux: depends who it's made by03:15
DewDudemy god...i love how sexy slot-load drives are03:15
zdennisonce you download a skin, how do you install it for beep?03:15
brennergusto5: seemed to happen after you joined03:15
JRlinuxOK; have not bought one yet; I just want to get the easiest one.03:15
Devrethmanok, anybody know why my installer would constantly hand on "scanning disk drives" 41% immediately after I configure a raid0 array?03:15
bob2owen_: I don't know how taht could happen then, unless you've been playing weird games with your toolchain03:15
gusto5is it still happening?03:15
MadpilotJRlinux: http://www.linuxprinting.org/03:15
bob2DewDude: is the CD ok?03:15
brennergusto5: no03:15
gusto5brenner, still going?03:15
bob2gusto5: no03:15
gusto5oh ok :)03:15
Naliothzdennis: should be a subdirectory of ~/.beepmp or something03:16
DewDude???03:16
DewDudeyeah03:16
JRlinuxThanks Madpilot , bob203:16
DewDudethe CD is fine03:16
DewDudei just said..i love how sexy they are...thier action03:16
owen_bob2, not as far as I know :) I followed the algorithm collect2 uses to locate ld... you think zapping the gcc packages would get it back going?03:16
bob2er03:16
bob2Devrethman: is the cd ok?03:16
bob2owen_: no03:16
Devrethmanyea03:16
DewDudeheh03:16
owen_bob2, er, and I found ld the way it should.03:16
owen_bob2, ok, any thoughts then?03:16
Devrethmanpretty sure, doesn't it check it automatically?03:16
MadpilotJRlinux: I do know - did a bunch of research lately - that many of the new HP multi-fucntion units work OK in Linux - but check that URL...03:16
gusto5wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats doesnt have anything on .avi03:16
brennerNalioth, zdennis : nope....just copy the archive to ~/.bmp/Skins03:17
robotgeekzdennis: put the tar .gz file in ~/.bmp/Skins and select it from preferences03:17
JRlinuxOK Madpilot03:17
bob2Devrethman: no03:17
Devrethmanah03:17
DewDudegusto: avi is a contianer format03:17
Devrethmani'll try that...03:17
bob2Devrethman: it would a) take forever and b) take bloody forever03:17
Naliothbrenner: i dont run bmp, so didnt know the dir name03:17
DewDudeit contains two streams03:17
gusto5DewDude, elaborate please03:17
DewDudelike03:17
DewDudeok03:17
DewDudeyou've got your video and audio03:17
gusto5ok03:17
gusto5oh ok03:17
DewDudein AVI...the format doesn't matter03:17
DewDudeyou could have cinepack and raw PCM03:17
brennerNalioth: i figured that :)03:17
DewDudeor divx and mp3 as the most popular combo is03:18
gusto5ok03:18
Naliothbrenner: doin the best i can from macland03:18
DewDudeunlike a .mpg file which is mpeg both ways03:18
gusto5oh ok i see03:18
bob2except it handles VBR poorly03:18
DewDudewhat. mpeg?03:18
DewDudeor AVI03:18
bob2AVI03:18
gusto5DewDude, gotcha. thanks alot. i learned something today03:18
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dalamarw00.03:22
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brennernice...there's a bmp-skins package03:25
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owen_well, yes. the toolchain is obviously messed up. hmmph.03:26
bob2ouchy03:26
rendiguy's how to instal new splash screen03:27
DVSoftwareanyone knows kow to fix this?03:27
DVSoftwarehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/180603:27
owen_so, do you know how to fix these kinds of problems? The answer on #gcc was -- "yes" [toolchain is broken!] 03:27
owen_:/03:27
bob2depends how it got broken03:27
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owen_any pointers on where to start looking?03:27
bob2you really did nothing to it?03:27
bob2you're using hoary, and you never deleted things from /usr or installed gcc/whatever from source?03:27
cafuegoand you don't have backports enabled?03:28
rendi!splash03:28
ubotuNo idea, rendi03:28
owen_Installed gcc from source? heh, I'm not crazy :) but nope, I haven't deleted anything and I am using hoary, and no backports.03:28
zdenniswhats the best way to install java ... ?03:28
cafuego!java03:28
ubotuI heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:28
bob2DVSoftware: sounds like a bug in what you're compiling03:28
zdennisthx ubotu03:29
cafuegoThe best way is to follow the link to a cutom java install from that wiki page.03:29
DVSoftwarestrange... no one complained on that :\03:29
rendihello ?03:30
DVSoftwarelet's try compiling something different03:30
tristanmikerendi, do you mean something to replace the lines of text?03:30
rendino no03:31
brennerrendi: i think you want gdm themes03:31
tristanmikerendi, do you mean the logon screen?03:31
rendihttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24581 <= i want to instal this one03:31
rendiyeah logo03:31
DVSoftwarewell... im going to sleep now03:32
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DVSoftwarei'm too tired to think03:32
DVSoftwareand google03:32
cafuegoHmm, it's never done that ebfore.03:32
cafuegonautilus is previewing mp3 files03:32
Madpilotcafuego: I think it's supposed to do that, but mine never has either...03:33
brennerprobably b/c you have never hovered on an mp3 file before03:33
cafuegoMadpilot: It just started doing it, very nice. Just hover and it plays03:33
brenneriirc it's enabled by default03:33
Madpilotno, even when I hover I get no music preview - either on mp3 or ogg...03:33
cafuegoNalioth: The perl script I wrote for irssi, to block BitchX quit messages.03:35
brennerMadpilot: check your prefs maybe03:35
owen_eCos.03:36
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owen_I forgot I was working with eCos and it decided to muck with my toolchain.03:36
DewDudeim starting to not like windows anymore03:36
Naliothcafuego: ah, now you get back with me...03:36
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cafuegoNalioth: http://ftp.cc.com.au/pub/users/cafuego/stuff/ is full of toys03:36
cafuegoNalioth: I mainly used to see them on #debian.. to the point of a script to block them being the only way to stay sane ;-)03:37
owen_thanks for the toolchain advise :)03:38
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wolkirebooting03:40
tristanmikerendi, where is that splash suppose to go?03:41
chumphrieshello folks, i searched for a few hours on the hotplug freeze on boot problem, searched the ubuntu site (faq and wiki) and forums, yet nothing on there helped. works great on this laptop, yet on my workstation at work it freezes at hotplug. could not find any messages in logfiles on errors from hotplug or anything that looks like hardware conflict problems03:42
dieguitochumphries, are you sing a usb keyboard?03:43
chumphriesare there other resources? other than forums, faq, and wiki searching? google seems to mostly just link to those on hotplug freeze03:43
brennertristanmike, rendi: sys > admin > login > graphical greeter > install new thee03:43
dieguitos/sing/using03:43
brenner*theme03:43
chumphriesno, mouse and ps2 are ps2, not using usb03:43
tristanmikeok, so you want to replace the Logon theme then?03:43
dieguitochumphries, mmm well in debian there's output about what it's detecting, i guess there's someway to activate that on ubuntu03:44
brennertristanmike: he does, yes03:44
dieguitochumphries, any weird device?03:44
tristanmikebrenner, hmmmm03:44
chumphriesdieguito: may try a different hardware configuration tomorrow, ie swap for another machine03:45
brenneror she, whatever03:45
chumphriesdieguito: ya, it has to be hardware i am sure, like conflicts or something. *shrug* heh03:45
tristanmikebrenner, did you look at the link s/he is trying to install?03:45
chumphriesi love ubuntu03:45
tristanmikebrenner, cause that's not a logon theme03:45
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chumphriesand python is strong focus, that says a lot right there03:45
brennertristanmike: nope. :)03:45
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tristanmikebrenner, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2458103:46
brennertristanmike: you asked him before though, and said yes, "the login screen"03:46
brennerlooking now03:46
brenneroh, that's not a gdm theme. lol03:46
skreetAlright, I'm on the voyage of installing fglrx, I got the module to build (after installing GCC and making a /usr/src/linux symlink to my headers) -- but now I'm stuck. X will start, and seemingly use the fglrx module -- then i do a glxinfo and it says it's unable to load a shared library: libGL.so.1, anyone been here before, or have any ideas? Thanks.03:46
brennertristanmike, rendi: you can use gtweakui for that03:47
brenner*those03:47
tristanmikebrenner, actually he replied "logo" not "logon" so I thought s/he either meant the one like the nVidia splash or the one just after you login. still don't know what s/he wants03:47
brennerskreet: er, why are you doing things the hard way?03:48
brenner!ati03:48
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:48
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skreetbrenner: hm, I'll take a look but I've tried a ton of other things.03:48
brennertristanmike: hehe. right you are. ah well, we tried *shrug*03:48
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rendino no its png file03:49
tristanmikebrenner, lol03:49
skreetbrenner, Does the current fglrx-driver package contain the NEWEST ati driver? I dont belive it does, not as of an outdated post.. ;)03:49
dibbonI followed the ubuntu instructions, added the necessary repositories for multimedia support, did an apt update, but I still am unable to recieve w32codecs03:49
rendihttp://gnome-look.org/content/files/24581-splash_top.png <== see that03:49
brennerskreet: afaik, no....it doesn't even use the official ati driver iirc03:49
tristanmikerendi, what do you expect it to replace?03:49
brennerrendi: i already told you, use gtweakui03:49
djurwhat's the best mp3 player for ubuntu?03:49
skreetbrenner, .. fglrx is the official driver -- Do you use an ATI card?03:49
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brennerskreet: yes i do...i should know that *looks down in shame*03:50
skreetbrenner, Heh. What card?03:50
Behihi all.03:50
brenneri thought there was a difference b/n ati and fglrx though03:50
Behisorry if I'm asking this twice03:50
brennerskreet: 9600pro03:50
OohBattmanhey guys, anyone want to help with a dual screen setup?03:51
Behiwhat's the equivalent of Windows' Alt+Shift in Ubuntu?03:51
brennerdibbon: it's in hoary-extras03:51
Behifor switching languages...03:51
skreetbrenner, And this method allows you to get "Direct Rendering: Yes" -- I'll try it but I have an X850XT PE PCI-Express and afaik only the NEWEST driver supports it..03:51
brennerskreet: *shrug* worth a shot.....you searched the forum yet?03:52
skreetbrenner, A few times, I like the more conversable replies I get here, Heh.03:52
skreetForums are boring, maybe i'll post and wait a year see if someone replies with some outdated information, you know :)03:52
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brennerha03:53
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brennerthey're not _that_ bad.03:53
skreetbrenner, I'm gonna take a stab at loading this, thanks for the pointer.. I'll be back if it doesnt work :D03:53
dibbonI have hoary extras on the list03:54
dibbonunder synapse03:54
dibbonbut w32codecs doesn't show up under a search03:54
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brennerpost your sources.list to the pastebin in the channel topic03:54
Behiany internationalization gurus here :-)03:54
IceDC571dibbon, http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/03:55
IceDC571dibbon, thats where w32codecs is03:55
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geeksaucei'm new to ubuntu (and linux), and i'm having trouble getting my mp3's to play.  different progs react differently when i try to play...03:57
brennerOohBattman:  wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation has an article on dual displays03:57
geeksaucexmms locks, totem just sits there, rythymbox does the same03:57
derekshow do i get debug information on why gdm (or gnome) is crashing when Xorg.0.log seems fine (not crashing) and there is nothing in .xsession-errors03:57
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brennergeeksauce: cahnge the output plugin in xmms03:58
Naliothgeeksauce: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:58
wolkire... i'm trying to build an alarm clock with at. at itself seems to work, but I can't tell totem to start playing... tried passing totem --play to at but it doesn't work. does someone have an idea?03:58
skreetWell that didnt work, thats an old version, doesnt support my card bummer.03:58
brennergeeksauce: totem and rbox probably need the gstreamer codec03:58
derekswhat other logs should i be looking in?03:58
geeksaucethanks03:58
brennerskreet: does the driver have install instructions? :)03:58
skreetSo anyone have any idea.. glxinfo returns glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | But the fglrx modules and xorg driver load and communicate to each otehr correctly.. it seems03:58
wolkigeeksauce: you need to set the audio output to esd in the xmms settings03:58
brennerskreet: maybe you're missing a lib03:58
skreetYea, I followed them to the T..03:59
billytwowillyis there an ubuntu specific samba print server howto? This should be easier.03:59
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billytwowillyoh yah, and webmin sucks03:59
skreetbrenner, It would seem that way.. any clue how to.. un-miss it.03:59
geeksauceokay cool.   i had to xkill xmms and now it won03:59
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geeksauce't start again...any way to revive it without logging out?03:59
wolkigeeksauce: what do you want to start again?03:59
geeksaucexmms04:00
DonLcontrol alt backspace maybe04:00
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skreetAnyone here running an X850XT PE PCI-Express video card?04:00
brennerskreet: er, i never installed the ati driver from source04:00
DonLoh. sorry04:00
wolkijust kill it and start it again04:00
regeyayikes.04:00
spiderwormhi all, where's grub.conf gone to with ubuntu?04:00
wolki"killall xmms"04:00
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regeyamake sure xmms was really killed.04:00
IceDC571the ati driver has a source?04:00
regeyaps -ax | grep xmms04:00
IceDC571hmm..04:00
regeyaor that04:00
regeyakillall xmms would do that...duh.04:00
skreetbrenner, Thats not possible, the source isnt released. however it does compile PART of the driver to match your distro.. and by installing it you did compile part of it, you just dont know it :)04:00
brennerspiderworm: /boot/grub/menu.lst04:00
spiderwormbrenner: thanx04:00
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brennerfudge...i should know my ati stuff better :-/04:01
rendiguys gdeskles is a theme or not ?04:01
skreetbrenner, Heh, it's alright -- you're the only person responding so I guess it could be worse :(04:01
wolkirendi: no04:01
devrethmanwhen i try to install ubuntu it always hangs on "scanning disks" right after i configure software raid04:01
rendigDesklets04:01
IceDC571if ati released their source, we would have a lot more driver releases coming out04:01
rendiic04:01
devrethmanand the CD's OK, i checked it04:01
dibbonhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/180704:01
brennercan we move on please? :)04:02
wolkirendi: gdesklets are little applets that live directly on your desktop04:02
IceDC571i didnt mean that in a bad way.. i was just saying.. lol04:02
IceDC571okay04:02
rendisoo it need more RAM ?04:02
devrethmananybody?04:02
wolkirendi: a theme is something that changes the look of an app. so a gdesklet can have themes.04:02
IceDC571devrethman, whats the problem?04:02
dereksanyone know how to figure out why gdm/gnome is freezing?04:02
devrethmanwhen i configure software raid inthe installer the progress bar gets stuck04:03
devrethmanat"Scanning disks04:03
devrethman"04:03
skreetbrenner, It's just odd, GLX and FGLRX load in the log without ANY errors, in fact I have no (EE) or (WW) lines to speak of.. yet all glx apps fail with that error.04:03
rendi!gcc04:03
uboturendi: Bugger all, i dunno04:03
devrethmanit's been there for 20 minutes04:03
cafuegodevrethman: Are you using the Hoary installer?04:03
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devrethmanyea, amd6404:03
wolkirendi: yes it does. if you're tight on ram, desklets probably aren't a good idea. though i guess there are some that aren't that memory intensive04:03
zdenniswhat vnc client gives you the ability to send ctrl-alt-delete combos?04:03
cafuegoPeculiar.04:03
cafuegozdennis: all of them04:04
rendiic04:04
zdennishow do you send it them?04:04
cafuegozdennis: hit F5 in the normal vnc viewer04:04
geeksaucestill can't start xmms04:04
zdennisah04:04
zdennisthx04:04
dibbonhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1807 | I am trying to install w32codecs :(04:04
brennerdibbon: we want /etc/apt/sources.list04:04
devrethmanany ideas??04:04
belal122what's the command for gconf that makes mailto handlers piont to www.gmail.com04:04
IceDC571i dont know anything about linux raid, sorry04:04
wolkirendi: if you just want system information, there are desktop monitors that don't take much cpu/ram.04:04
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devrethmanit did it when i tried without raid too04:05
brennerskreet: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58104&highlight=ati+howto04:05
nikolelooking for mirror address for breezy - latest release | I can't get the install to recognize SATA drive....04:05
geeksaucenothing happens when i click or run from terminal04:05
Naliothrendi: conky.sf.net04:05
brennerskreet: hang on, that might be unrelated. :)04:05
cafuegonikole: Use hoary.04:05
IceDC571nikole, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/04:05
nikoleUgh -- tried hoary too -- with expert04:05
cafuegowhat controller?04:06
skreetbrenner, Hey, he's having the same issue ! :)04:06
nikoleany special switches?04:06
brennerskreet: symlink seems to be the fix04:06
dibbonhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/180804:06
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nikolehold sec... 4get controller04:06
brennerskreet: ahem, what were you saying about forums being crap? :)04:06
nikoledell GX620 though...04:06
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cafuegoWith a dell, you never know..04:06
geeksauceoh well, i'll try restart04:06
brennerdibbon: did you reload/apt-get update?04:07
nikolei'm historically a Debian fan... wanted to give Ubuntu a whirl04:07
dibbonthat was what the previous paste was04:07
dibbonI thought apt update's output would say the same as the file04:07
skreetbrenner, Perhaps I meant to say _my_ forum skills are crap.. Obviously you have the skills that pay the bills, or at least get my 3d working..04:07
skreetI do run an AMD64 as these 2 people do.04:08
brennerdibbon: ah, yep. sorry.04:08
cafuegoskreet: amd64 with ati?04:08
devrethmanouch04:08
devrethmanamd64 eith nvidia is bad ehough04:08
wolkidoes someone here have an idea how to build an mp3 alarm clock with ubuntu? rhythmbox doesn't work with at either :-/04:08
cafuegodevrethman: amd64 with nvidia is trivial.04:08
cafuegowolki: mpg321 and cron?04:09
skreetcafuego, Trying..04:09
skreetcafuego, I think I'm failing -- but I am trying.04:09
Naliothwolki: use cron + mpg123 or similar04:09
cafuegoskreet: No chznce you can swap that card for an nvidia? (They compile/work fine)04:09
wolkicafuego: cron might be an idea, but that is so complicated... at is so easy to use... i'll try mpg123 though04:09
skreetcafuego, Oh yea, let me pull my X850XT PE real quick and buy a new video card..04:09
skreetcafuego,  :)04:10
cafuegoskreet: Well, the think is...04:10
nikolein bios i even changed my sata to 'combination'04:10
skreetcafuego, I had an nvidia before.. i miss them :(04:10
wolkiused to use a muine plugin, but it crashes with the new mono04:10
cafuegoskreet: I checked compatibility BEFORE spending money ;-)04:10
skreetcafuego, Even the windows driviers SUCK04:10
devrethmanamd64 is the problem04:10
devrethmanit won't install04:10
brennerhmmm, has w32codecs been taken out of extras?04:10
OohBattmananyone know how to set up Nvidia dual screen?04:10
rendigess04:10
skreetcafuego, Heh ;)04:10
brennerdibbon: your sources.list file seems to be ok04:10
cafuegodevrethman: No it's not. If ATI provided decent drivers, they'd work fine.04:10
brennerOohBattman: didn't i send you a link?04:11
OohBattmandid you?04:11
skreetcafuego, If I can find someone to give me what this card is worth I'd buy NV in a heartbeat. I cant even play KOTOR in windows..04:11
devrethmanwell, yea but they don't and it doesn't really make a difference until i can get it to install04:11
OohBattmani must have missed it, ill scroll up04:11
cafuegoskreet: ouch04:11
brennerOohBattman: i did04:11
skreetcafuego, Yea, it's a known issue..04:11
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cafuegodevrethman: Again, that's a matter of research BEFORE buying hardware. it's not rocket science.04:11
OohBattmanbrenner, sweet, thanks :)04:11
nikoleahhh.. it's the govt's money  :-)04:11
skreetcafuego, ATI basically said "Yea, that dont work once you get to Dantoine" (sp?)04:11
cafuegoskreet: scumbags <heh>04:12
kevogod!breezy04:12
ubotubreezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/04:12
Naliothwolki: there are crontab editors to make your life easier04:12
cafuegojesus, they're doing overtime on debian-security-announce today04:12
skreetcafuego, Yea, I'm not too happy -- card runs great,  not to mention alot cooler than nvidia did.. but overall I think I'd rather have an nv card.04:12
devrethmancafeugo it is, and i did mine, but for some reason ubuntu won;t work04:12
cafuegodevrethman: And that's amd64's fault?04:12
Naliothcafuego: get off my wavelength04:12
devrethmanno04:12
cafuegoNalioth: 2.4GHz is a free band, mate.04:13
Naliothcafuego: not that, the xuhf my brain runs on04:13
skreetlol04:13
brennerdibbon: i think w32codecs might've been taken out of the repo04:13
cafuegoNalioth: been eating shrooms again, huh?04:13
brennercan anyone confirm this?04:13
skreetbrenner, the universe or the ubuntuguide repos?04:14
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cafuego!info w32codecs04:14
DonLThe combination of my NVidia card and the AMD Athlon makes the top of the computer uncomfortably hot to touch in the summer04:14
brennerskreet: hoary-extras04:14
skreetDonL, I had a 6800GT and a Prescott Intel -- you're telling me.04:14
skreetDonL, I now have X850XT and AMD64 Venice -- cool all day long :)04:14
DonLskreet, doesn't seem to hurt it though04:14
brennercafuego: already asked ubotu: Package 'w32codecs' does not exist.04:14
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kevogodI have it installed...04:15
brenner<brenner>find w32codecs <ubotu>:  Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'w32codecs' returned no results.04:15
Naliothwho wants w32codecs?04:15
cafuego!info w32codecs extras04:15
skreetDonL, You kidding, the nvidia control panel in windows would tell me that my nvidia card was doing 76c and that the thermal point was 120c! 120C is really hot!04:15
brennerNalioth: dibbon04:15
rendi!wallpaper04:15
uboturendi: What?04:15
kevogodIt's backports04:15
skreet76c would burn a CPU any day - and that was when I wasnt gaming.04:15
brennerfudge04:15
Naliothdibbon: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codec package04:15
kevogodskreet: Not an Intel CPU04:15
skreetI dont know, my intel never ran that hot.04:16
Naliothdibbon: they go in /usr/local/lib/codecs04:16
kevogodThose burn out at over 10004:16
skreetAnd it was a 2.8c Prescott 478 - probably one of the hottest.04:16
skreet*2.8e04:16
cafuegoAren't they DESIGNED for 80+C ?04:16
dibbongracious!04:16
dibbon^^04:16
skreetcafuego, You must be thinking of the G504:16
cafuegoWhat with needing a small nuclear reactor to power them...04:16
kevogodgranted... running over 100 degrees C is not recommended....04:16
skreetcafuego, "With the unique all-in-one liquid cooling heatsink the G5 processor runs at a cool 88 degrees celcius" -- that was in a magazine somewhere..04:17
DonLI was worried about this one because I built this machine myself. Was used to Intel processors. Thought I had done something wrong and the cpu was burning up04:17
skreetkevogod, Unless you'd like to boil water...04:17
skreetDonL,  What are you running?04:17
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cafuegoskreet: <heh> That seems a bit over the top.04:18
DonLAMD 2600XP, MSI MX44004:18
wolkicafuego, Nalioth: at+mpg321 works, thank you. it's not a good solution because i have to edit the script to choose a new mp3 but it's much better than not waking up until a new muine plugin is done. :) thank you very much!04:18
skreetcafuego, I thought so.04:18
skreetDonL, I think i'd rather have the Mx440 right now, want to trade?04:18
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brennerDonL: ah, mx440 ...my old card. :)04:18
gusto5lol skreet04:18
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dennis__Guys04:19
DonLhaha. Not likely. I'm really happy with it. Not the latest or greatest, but all I need04:19
cafuegoskreet: The MX440 is not happy with the latest nvidia driver, afaik.04:19
dennis__Whats a good program to convert wma to mp3 in linux?04:19
skreetAt least I could get GLX running in < 4 minutes.04:19
skreetcafuego, Nevermind then.04:19
dennis__Anyone know of one?04:19
brennerdennis__: you'll lose quality iirc04:19
dennis__:/04:19
skreetdennis__, Alot of quality04:19
brennerlossy -> lossy = very lossy04:19
dennis__Well04:19
dennis__I can't get it to play :/04:19
brennerdennis__: using what?04:19
dennis__I have all the codecs installed  and everything04:19
skreetdennis__, It's like converting cassett to vinal then vinal to CD.. it's gonna sound worse than cassett or vinal.04:20
dennis__I'm trying to get it to play in totem04:20
DonLcafuego, maybe I don't have the latest driver.04:20
dennis__And I already have the xine plugin04:20
brennerdennis__: install totem-xine04:20
dennis__brenner, i have it installed already04:20
brennerdennis__: what happens? does an error box pop up?04:21
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dennis__Yeah04:21
brennersaying?04:21
dennis__Audio codec '0x0' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies04:21
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brennerer, installed gstreamer0.8-mad?04:22
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cafuegoCPU Temp:    +22C04:22
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dennis__Yeah brenner04:22
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DonLcafuego, apparently, I'm running 1.0-717404:22
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CCFIELhello ppl...04:22
CCFIELim back..04:22
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DaSkreechok Evince got screwed04:23
CCFIELfinally i have configure my 56k modem...04:23
cafuego!info nvidia-glx hoary04:23
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB04:23
CCFIELin ubuntu...04:23
cafuegoDonL: That seems right.04:23
DaSkreechhow do I fix it? is there a apt-get reinstall?04:23
CCFIELyeehey.......04:23
cafuegoDonL: The altest is 7667 (breezy)04:23
bur[n] erugh... rhythmbox is not hte most stable breezy thing these days ;)04:23
DonLseems good here, but I'm not touching breezy for a bit04:23
dennis__brenner, any idea whats up?04:23
cafuegothat's not a bad idea ;-)04:23
CCFIELcan somebody point me...what should i install...i want to have a GUI...for pppconfig and..pon...what is a GUI app for this?04:24
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brennerdennis__: i just tested a wma in totem, works fine....:-/04:24
brennerdennis__: i'm not sure actually....does w32codecs provide wma?04:24
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cafuegobrenner: it does, but wma9 might be badly supported anyways.04:25
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dennis__:/04:25
brennerdennis__: have you installed w32codecs?04:25
dennis__Yes04:25
cafuegothe 'w' in wma should hint at how badly it should be avoided ;-)04:25
dennis__lol04:25
DonLlol04:25
dennis__Its not my fault04:25
dennis__I got it off oink04:25
dennis__:/04:25
cafuegouse them for using a proprietary closed format.04:25
cafuego.sue04:26
cafuegostupid autocorrect04:26
DonLA long while ago, I think I got my w32 codecs off Marillat, but I'm not sure that is a good idea04:26
phrizerspeaking of totem, i just installed ubuntu about an hour ago, just tried to play a .avi and .mpg and it siad there were no decoders found...04:26
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tristanmikeyou got it off of oink and it's a wma?04:26
dennis__Phrizer04:26
brennerdennis__: gstreamer0.8-plugins?04:26
dennis__Read the wiki04:26
dennis__Yes04:26
phrizerokay ;o04:26
dennis__Everything is setup04:26
cafuego!RestrictedFormats04:26
uboturestrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'04:26
dennis__I followed the guide04:26
dennis__www.ubuntuguide.org04:26
IceDC571oh god04:26
dennis__Everything is setup fine04:26
cafuegophrizer: ^^ visit that url.04:26
dennis__What?04:26
brennerhehe04:26
DaSkreechcan I use apt to reinstall or is that only Synaptic?04:27
dennis__I found the guide more helpful than the wiki04:27
cafuegoIceDC571: yes, my son?04:27
Naliothdennis__: no you didnt.. .. ..04:27
dennis__??04:27
brennerdennis__: they're ubguide haters04:27
dennis__lol04:27
Naliothdennis__: be careful of the guide04:27
dennis__:/04:27
dennis__:?04:27
Naliothbrenner: we dont like fixin boxes cuz of it04:27
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brennerDaSkreech: synaptic is easier...i'm sure apt-get would have an option04:27
geeksaucexmms works fine now, thanks guys04:27
dennis__Don't hate04:27
cafuego"Ubuntuguide said I had to run 'rm -rf /' and now I can't log in..."04:28
dennis__lol04:28
dennis__I got tricked into doing that once04:28
dennis__By a friend04:28
dennis__:/04:28
dennis__When I first started using linux04:28
brennerex-friend? :)04:28
bytefoo:/04:28
DonLMust admit, I did have some problems, and turned off the repository after04:28
dennis__Hehe04:28
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dennis__It was on FreeBSD though04:28
cafuegohit ctrl-c quicly enough to not have trashed /bin04:28
dennis__:P04:28
bytefooOiNK04:28
bytefoo:|04:29
dennis__I was drunk ;)04:29
HrdwrBoBin SCO, /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin04:29
belal122how do you install the pitfdll plugin?  is there any repository I can use to get it with apt?04:29
HrdwrBoB.. don't accidentally delete04:29
HrdwrBoB.. on a machine that's in another country04:29
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: In SCO, white is black.04:29
brennerdennis__: that doesn't tell you to install totem-xine!04:29
HrdwrBoBcafuego: tell me about it, I despised that machine04:29
robertbby0 HrdwrBoB04:29
dennis__But I have it installed04:29
dennis__I installed it yesterdya brenner04:29
brennerdamn04:29
HrdwrBoByo04:29
robertbbTell me..04:29
dennis__Fuck it04:29
brennerthought i had it04:29
brenner:)04:29
dennis__Fuck windows and their shitty codecs04:29
dennis__I'll just go find the mp3 version04:29
cafuegodennis__: that's the spirit!04:30
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brennerdennis__: that's the spirit04:30
IceDC571lol04:30
dennis__:)04:30
tristanmikedennis__, isn't wma against the rules of Oink?04:30
HrdwrBoBrobertbb: tell you...04:30
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dennis__Yeah04:30
robertbbI wanna stick Hoary on this laptop. I also want to go to breezy when it comes out. If I install hoary and then apt-get distupgrade to breezy, will the install be any "less clean" than a vanilla breezy install would be?04:30
dennis__Thats why I'm pissed04:30
DewDudeis it now?04:30
DewDudethey used to allow it04:30
IceDC571which one is more evil.. wma or aac?04:30
geeksaucenew question:  i can't seem to set my resolution any highter than 1024x768...i would like to set it to 1280x102404:30
tristanmikedennis__, did you report it, I would that site is so posh04:30
DewDudewma04:30
HrdwrBoBrobertbb: no04:30
dennis__:P04:30
brennerrobertbb: afaik, shouldn't be04:30
dennis__That site is awesome04:30
DewDudeAAC does have some free decoders04:30
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brennerubotu: tell geeksauce about fixres04:30
HrdwrBoBrobertbb: the upgrade will be tested as well as the install04:30
IceDC571DewDude, oh yeah.. forgot about that04:30
HrdwrBoBrobertbb: it's *possible* but highly unlikely04:31
DewDudeAAC is a nice format04:31
tristanmikedennis__, but I find them too strict on policy04:31
belal122aac n wmv both bad.  just buy real CDs and rip to ogg.04:31
dennis__Nah04:31
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IceDC571theres Pystel which wasnt really free and theres FAAC04:31
JMeeterhey04:31
oneseventeen_does breezy use a new kernel, if so, will it make a new module path and therefore cause me to reinstall my modules?04:31
dennis__I've never had any problems with them04:31
DewDudewell04:31
robertbbHrdwrBoB: So not likely to have any unecessary files or users/groups etc?04:31
DewDudeFAAC plays everything iv'e given it04:31
oneseventeen_(when upgrading)04:31
HrdwrBoBrobertbb: any issues are likely to be minor and easily rectified in any case04:31
DewDudemy windows machine is the music machine04:31
skajaubuntu sees my modem but it wont dial the number04:31
DewDudeit's got the expensive sound setup04:31
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IceDC571DewDude, what sound card?04:31
DewDudeSB audigy 204:32
brenneroneseventeen_: 2.6.13 iirc04:32
DewDudei'm using KX drivers04:32
whyameyeHow do I partition and format a USB drive?04:32
DewDudewith a DirectSound SSRC plugin to upsample to 96/24 so the p16v module is the only thing running04:32
IceDC571DewDude, i got a modded Audigy 2 but gave it away.. sadly04:32
HrdwrBoBwhyameye: same as a normal drive04:32
DewDudemodded audigy 2?04:32
oneseventeen_brenner: I guess I'm just curious if I'll have to reinstall my wireless drivers/video drivers with the new kernel04:32
DaSkreechdennis__: is that me?04:32
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HrdwrBoBwhyameye: it will appear as a SCSI drive04:32
DewDudemodded...how?04:32
skajai dont think you can boot off a usb drive04:32
HrdwrBoBskaja:  you can04:32
HrdwrBoBI'm doing it right now :)04:33
IceDC571DewDude, i got the stuff on it modded so it sounds better by some guy named X86Dude at HardOCP04:33
oneseventeen_weird... i just noticed my laptop's touchpad scroll bar works in ubuntu! (never really tried it)04:33
DewDudeheh04:33
DewDudei don't know what could have been modded04:33
IceDC571DewDude, but im curious about the new soundblaster X-Fi or whatever its called04:33
DonLoneseventeen_, cool04:33
DewDudeoh04:33
DewDudei am too04:33
DewDudei got a preorder in04:33
whyameyeHrdwrBoB, so where will I find the drive? /dev/???04:33
geeksaucebrenner: what is this fixres you speak of?  didn't find anything useful after googling for it04:33
DewDude$49904:33
brenneroneseventeen_: can't tell you to be honest...never tried breezy04:33
brennergeeksauce: ubotu should have pm'ed you a link04:34
IceDC571DewDude, haha you really like your sound dont you?04:34
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DaSkreechbrenner: Hmm suppose I can't use synaptic at the moment?04:34
geeksauceahhh my bad, i see it now04:34
DewDudeIceDC571, ever heard of TheAudioShack04:34
rendiwhat mean that in english ??04:34
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DewDudeyou probably haven't04:34
IceDC571DewDude, cant say i have04:34
geeksaucethanks brenner04:34
DewDudeever been on Oink?04:34
ssdd65is there a ubuntu pkg for gkrellm04:34
skajawhat i'm i doing wrong04:34
Carpe_LibertatemHey, Sina.04:34
brennerDaSkreech: man apt-get04:34
IceDC571DewDude, um... no04:35
DewDudethere's a 96/24 FLAC of the Manson Personal Jesus 10" floating around04:35
brennerDanusMcAnus: there's a --reinstall option04:35
sinasilver4Hello.. Name I don't know.04:35
nikoleapt-cache search gkrellm04:35
robotgeekssdd65: shud be there04:35
DewDudei ripped that04:35
IceDC571DewDude, are you serious??04:35
lunitikssdd65: its in universe04:35
DewDudeyes04:35
DaSkreechI did didn't seem to have much helpful04:35
DewDudei good vinyl rips04:35
ssdd65under what catigory/04:35
DewDudeDVD-quality vinyl rips04:35
IceDC571very, very nice04:35
IceDC571i'm impressed04:35
MadpilotDewDude: how on earth do you rip vinyl?04:35
brennerssdd65: use the search function04:36
skajacan i get some info on the actiontec pci callwaiting modem04:36
ssdd65thanks...04:36
DewDudeoops04:36
DewDudei wonder if i'm still connected04:36
Madpilotskaja: www.google.com04:36
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IceDC571DewDude, connected to what?04:36
DewDudeheh04:36
DewDudemy switch04:36
brennerMadpilot: you're so full of knowledge *looks up in awe*04:37
DewDudeit's got a bad power plug04:37
skajai want the info for ubuntu04:37
DewDudei bumped it with my foot and it lost power04:37
whyameyeHrdwrBoB, so I found the drive as sda. But I can't mount it right? Because it isn't formatted yet...04:37
IceDC571DewDude, im guessing linux is far from being able to decode 96/24 flac files? i mean it can but is alsa capable of such an output?04:37
DewDudebut...how do you rip vinyl? in real-time...with a decent card04:37
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DewDude...i don't know04:37
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Madpilotbrenner: I try, I try... ;) but seriously, if you know the model name/number of something, google is your best bet..04:37
DewDudemy software for restoration is Windows only04:37
DewDudethat's why i have to have a windows machine04:37
sinasilver4Anyone know where I could get printer drivers for a HP Deskjet 842C? :P04:38
skajai found the way to set up my modem with debian but ubuntu is missing the file i need04:38
brennerMadpilot: i know...personally i wouldn't have bothered with the www. and the .com :)04:38
IceDC571DewDude, what software and drives do you use to rip your stuff with?04:38
DewDudenow now04:38
DewDudeif i told everyone...i'd not have a shot at going pro04:38
brennerlet's all shake fists at him04:39
nikoledidja try cups for printer drivers? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_842C04:39
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DewDudei did manage to get remastering CD credits on an actual CD04:39
DonLsinasilver4, did you google it?04:39
IceDC571i see04:39
IceDC571would you ever use apple?04:39
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zenwheni do04:39
DewDudeIceDC571, me...use apple?04:39
ssdd65thanks again...04:39
sinasilver4I've never heard of it before.. Thank you.04:39
DewDudefor what?04:39
IceDC571DewDude, yep.. for music04:39
DewDudeno04:39
DewDudelack of 96/2404:40
DewDudeOSX might04:40
DonLsinasilver4, were the drivers not already there?04:40
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brennerskaja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto04:40
DewDudebut..the mac software is EXPENSIVE04:40
viceswhere would I go to look for a redirect service for a webpage?04:40
DewDudehardware wise...i'm on a mac right now ;)04:40
DewDudevices: www.dyndns.org\04:41
DonLDewDude, which one?04:41
NaliothDewDude: fink and darwinports04:41
vicesDewDude: thanks04:41
DaSkreechbrenner: Ah Fixed it :)04:41
DewDudewhich what? which hardware04:41
DaSkreechbrenner: Removed ubuntu-desktop04:41
DewDudeiMac G3 DV04:41
IceDC571DewDude, im getting an iMac soon... but i love music so much so i was wondering if its possible to rip flac files on OSX04:41
DonLOk04:41
DewDudei'm sure it is04:41
frank23what are the chances that my alsa driver supports 5.1? I know my hardware does04:41
DewDudei know you can do it in linux04:41
NaliothIceDC571: yes, it is possible04:41
brennerDaSkreech: i don't get you....but glad to hear it's fixed. :)04:42
IceDC571franks23, i'd say theres a 75% chance it would support it04:42
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DaSkreechbrenner: Ubuntu-desktop forced the package to reinstall :)04:42
skajai have did that step i type in sudo pon and nothing happends04:42
moralehas anyone had success getting the ATI drivers installed on ubuntu on an amd64 system?04:42
brennerDaSkreech: ah, ok.04:42
brenner*chuckle*04:42
DaSkreechbrenner: So it's all good now :)04:42
IceDC571Nalioth, what software would i use to listen to my flacs? or might there be an itunes plugin?04:42
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IceDC571ack.. forget itunes its not gapless04:43
brennermorale: skreet's trying to :)04:43
moraleah.. is he around right now?04:43
IceDC571DewDude, whats your lossy format of choice?04:43
brennerskaja: you set up your isp stuff all correctly?04:43
DewDudewell, depends on my requirements04:44
DonLVery cool. Since Macs are now using unix, there's devinitely an overlapping of interests. Shows in places like this. I think it's healthy04:44
brennermorale: half-joking....he's having problems04:44
kevogodVorbis man.04:44
brennerskreet: ping04:44
whyameyewhat's the command to format a drive in Linux to ext304:44
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DewDudeif i want to archive something in lossy..i go musepack04:44
JMeeterhttp://forums.neverside.com/post/770108/04:44
moralebrenner, yeah.. he may be on the same track as me though.. im trying to find out why my ld.so linker is not following symbolic links correctly.04:44
IceDC571what about on an ipod?04:44
skajacan some one hell me where the S30setserial file is?04:44
brennermorale: exact same problem04:44
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DaSkreechThanks04:45
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brennermorale: pci-e card?04:45
DewDudenever infer i'd own that POS04:45
moralehmm.. since it is all the same partition.. maybe i should try hard links..04:45
moralebrenner, yeah it is..04:45
DewDudeand never say ipod when you mean "portable media player"04:45
moraleasus x300 or something04:45
NaliothIceDC571: fink.sourceforge.net and darwinports.opendarwin.org are gonna be really helpful to you04:45
brennermorale: these the official ati drivers?04:45
kevogodMusepack may have been better than Vorbis at one time, but that certainly is not true now.04:45
moralebrenner, yes..04:45
DewDudeno04:45
IceDC571hahaha. okk..04:45
DewDudemusepack is better than vorbis04:45
moraleati-driver-installer-8.16.20-x86_64.run04:45
brennermorale: this is uncanny. :)04:45
DewDudevorbis is good, yes04:45
DewDudehowever04:45
DewDudemusepack does a nicer job04:46
brennermorale: i sent him this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58104&highlight=ati+howto04:46
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brennermorale: he's since nicked off04:46
moraleah.04:46
DewDudei've been using ogg a lot for transcoding for the iRiver04:46
DewDudecuz it now somewhat plays ogg04:46
moralei'll have a lookie see at that, i have been googling all night04:46
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brennermorale: he reminisced about how much better nvidia cards were04:46
vicesDewDude: anticipating becoming an experienced user, do I want my own dns, or a custom provided dns?04:46
brennerthen he's been quiet for a while04:46
IceDC571i got an ipod a year back.. since then its been sitting in the dust, i dont know what to get now04:46
moraleyeah..04:46
IceDC571for a portable media player04:46
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HrdwrBoBvices: you don't want your own DNS04:47
nikolewhyameye -->    'tune2fs'    for ext2 to ext304:47
skajai have done this http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/cwifaq.html#installlinux and this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto04:47
Naliothgood thing, too04:47
IceDC571ive been looking at the iriver and creative04:47
kevogodhttp://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=7e2d74923a536b1f86816260c137d056&showtopic=36465&st=004:47
reikiIceDC571: you can use an iPod as a flash drive. Don't let it go COMPLETELY to waste :)04:47
moralei like nvidia, but i wasn't going to pay an extra 100$ for something decent with dvi from my wholesaler.04:47
geeksaucesecond problem resolved, lol04:47
brennermorale: might be worth pinging him....you can work together. :)04:47
frank23IceDC571: yeah... I checked and the via82xx does support 5.1 but I'm way too lazy to try and set this up properly!04:47
brennermorale: gtg, good luck04:47
moralebrenner, yeah already did that :) he seems to be away.04:47
IceDC571frank23, have you tried just booting up with a livecd to see if it works?04:47
brennermorale: well, search for other forum topics maybe.....mailing list is there as well04:48
DewDudeok....now my CDROM isn't mounting04:48
brennerlater04:48
frank23Well I don't even have speakers right now so it will have to wait04:48
skajais there a diffrent place i can look04:48
Agrajagso hey, I've been using an athlon xp 2000+ for a while now, and I just got a 3000+. Is it worth it at this point to install the 64-bit version of ubuntu or are there enough bugs that I should stick with the 32-bit one?04:48
frank23IceDC571: would kaffeine be able to output 5.1 from a DVD, do you think?04:48
IceDC571frank23, i have no idea.. im not a kde user04:49
whyameyeif I want to find a certain word in the man pages, how would I do it?04:49
geeksaucei just need to get rythymbox to work so i can use my ipod with it.  i tried re-installing gstreamer, but still no luck04:49
Agrajagwhyameye: with the man page open, hit / and the word you're looking for, then enter04:49
NaliothAgrajag: no bugs, just more usability with the 32bit arch(es)04:50
Agrajagunless you're looking for the word in multiple pages, in which case apropos might be better04:50
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AgrajagNalioth: oh ok, probably stick to 32 then04:50
nikolewhyameye: after / just his 'n' or next word04:50
DonLAgrajag, probably just as well04:50
kevogodIs Ubuntu going to support Windows key combinations (out of the box) in the future?04:50
geeksaucewhat else should i try to get rythymbox to work?04:51
DewDudefucking hell04:51
Naliothkevogod: it already supports some windows=key=combos04:51
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DonLkevogod, the best combinations problably already exist04:51
kevogodNalioth: In Hoary?04:51
NaliothDewDude: please, there are women and children present04:51
DewDudesorry04:51
DewDudei typed before i thought04:51
Naliothkevogod: yes, i use windows combos alla time04:51
Naliothkevogod: start kubuntu and hit the "windows key"04:52
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kevogodI am using Ubuntu04:52
kevogodnot KDE Ubuntu04:52
dibbonI was installing mplayer with GUI and I got Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation04:52
kevogodWindows key does nothing for me.04:52
rendiguy's how to change my cursos04:52
Naliothkevogod: well let me inform you the "windows key" makes the "K"menu pop right up04:53
DonLkevogod, nor me. Wait a minute, I don't have a windows key04:53
Naliothdibbon: install "xlibs-dev"04:53
dibbonty04:53
frank23dibbon: why not install mplayer from synaptic/04:53
frank23?04:53
rendiany one ?04:53
kevogodGranted, Windows + F* keys work, but those aren't very convenient.04:53
bob2I don't think swearing in here has anything to do with "women and children" being present04:53
bob2kevogod: file a wishlist bug asking for it04:54
whyameyewhat's the best command to use to copy the entire contents of a drive, including hidden/system files etc.?04:54
nightswimrsync04:54
Madpilotbob2: no, these days they know all the words too...;)04:54
nikolesata still not detected... maddening.  lspci shows 'unknown device'04:54
bob2some americans have odd views04:54
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bob2whyameye: cp -a, or tar, or rsync04:54
Naliothfrank23: i'll say that a recompiled mplayer is a lot nicer (the default one doesnt have hardly anthing compiled into it, due to ubuntu being 'by default' patent free)04:54
bob2you need to be more specific about what you're doing04:55
bob2mplayer in multiverse includes all sorts of nasty things04:55
Naliothkevogod: windows + e, winkey + f, etc work04:55
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geeksaucewhen i try to import a folder into my library, it says there is no plugin installed to support an mp3 file.  what plugin do i need to install?04:55
Naliothkevogod: so most of the win key combos function04:55
Madpilot!tell geeksauce about mp304:55
bob2geeksauce: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (linked from the FAQ)04:55
DonLI have a system that works so well. Must admit that most stuff I got working long enough ago that I forget how I did it04:56
kevogodNalioth: Although that is in KDE.04:56
DewDudehow is mp3 a restricted format...is it because Fraunhoffer wants royalties?04:56
moralelook at that, i know exactly what is wrong.. i need a 64-bit gcc compiler so i can build these 64-bit libraries04:56
frank23Nalioth: well I have no idea what I'm missing then04:56
nikoleinstalling ubuntu - tried hoary/breezy - unknown controller - cannot find SATA drive04:56
Naliothfrank23: dibbon: i recompiled my own mplayer (didgnt get it from the repos)04:56
belal122i hate mplayer... and xine.04:56
geeksaucethanks04:56
Naliothkevogod: it is up to gnome to integrate more win-key-combos into it04:57
frank23Nalioth: what do you have that I don't?04:57
bob2DewDude: it's patent-encumbered04:57
DewDudeahhh04:57
NaliothDewDude: yes04:57
belal122canonical needs to throw out that trashy rhythm box and put in beep media player as default04:57
DonLbelal122, mplayer is the one that works consistently well for me, through all kinds of distros04:57
FR500hello04:57
bob2DewDude: and yes, fraunhoffer want money04:57
dreamiehow do you do a search in bitchx?04:57
Naliothmorale: that is a journey you will remember04:57
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kevogodNalioth: Well, Ubuntu could add its own.04:57
DewDudeheh04:57
DewDudethey sure haven't gotten any from me04:57
belal122donL, it's a headache04:57
DewDudei wonder how badly they got screwed04:57
bob2Nalioth: what formats can mplayer in multiverse not play?04:57
FR500how do i know if i have usb module driber (CONFIG_USB_ACM) compiled in kernel?04:58
DonLbelal122, it was until it worked04:58
DewDudeconsidering i've yet to see a pc that hasn't played it back04:58
kevogodI know how to add the shortcuts/combinations, but that's beside the point.04:58
Naliothbob2: idk, i didnt even know there was one there04:58
Naliothbob2: i tend to compile my own stuff with my own codec requirements in them04:58
bob2kevogod: if you want windows shortcuts b ydefault, file a wishlist bug04:58
belal122donL: i guess, but i don't know.  i just have a problem with it, it seems like a very messy program compared to totem/gstreamer04:58
kevogodbob2: I will.04:59
bob2no one you're talking to here has the power to change it04:59
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whyameyebob2, thanks. I went with cp -a and it's working great!04:59
DonLbelal122, whatever works for you.04:59
frank23Nalioth: I installed mplayer and w32codecs from the repos and have yet to find something I can't play (expect drmed .wmv)04:59
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moralehmm.. how do you force gcc to build 64-bit binaries?04:59
Naliothfrank23: ok. i listen to mp4/aac and that rot05:00
bob2morale: you mean "I'm running the Ubunut i386 port on an amd64, and I'd like to compile an amd64 binary"?05:00
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DonLJust looked out the window. Holy Purple Sky. Dusk here. Sorry to change subject05:00
rendihello ??05:00
dibbonGTK Devel packages means gnome-devel ?05:01
skajaok i have a hardware modem05:01
Naliothrendi  :?05:01
rendi:o)05:01
Naliothdibbon: use synaptic, and search for -dev05:01
bob2dibbon: no, it means libgtk2.0-dev05:01
rendihow to change my cursor ?05:01
skaja:(|)05:01
bob2dibbon: if you're compiling a gnome thing, tho, gnome-devel will get all you need05:01
bob2dibbon: as long as you have build-essential, too05:01
rendi===D05:02
bob2rendi: please don't.05:02
rendican ? how ?05:02
skajaso how do i get my modem to dial using ubuntu05:02
IceDC571DewDude, you back yet?05:03
bob2skaja: er, search the wiki?05:03
DewDudeyeah05:03
DewDudei never actually left05:03
DewDudedude..i got iTux sitting next to the PC monitor05:03
absinthe_Breezy is like 10 times faster than Hoary05:03
IceDC571DewDude, iTux?05:03
RedGhostthis is my first few days using ubuntu (or any linux for that matter) can someone reccomend a good AV? (prefered free)05:03
DewDudethat's what i named my bx05:03
DonLskaja, sorry I've never done that so I don't know how to help you05:03
DewDudebox05:03
DewDudecuz it's an iMac..with linux...iTux05:04
IceDC571ohh05:04
NaliothRedGhost: clamav05:04
bob2skaja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto, for instance05:04
IceDC571haha nice :)05:04
frank23RedGhost: you don't need one ;-)05:04
bob2RedGhost: note that you don't need one for ubuntu05:04
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firebird619Hi, I have an external modem which I have set up in System ==> Administration ==> Networking. I tried to configure the modem using wvdial, but it says Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory. I have entered the information I need to in /etc/wvdial.conf, including /dev/ttyS0 which is where the modem is at. It also says Warning: section [Dialer Defaults]  does not exist in wvdial.conf, however, when I open the wvdial.conf file05:04
DewDudemy XP machine is named MediaPimp05:04
bob2RedGhost: it's only useful if you're scanning files for windows machines05:04
skajabob i cant get that to work05:04
IceDC571DewDude, so what do you think about this "SuperRip" feature by creative? haha05:04
RedGhostlol why is that05:04
Hmmmmhullo there people05:04
IceDC571it seems a little strange to me05:04
bob2skaja: how could anyone possibly help you unless you explain what isn't working?05:04
DewDudesuperrip?05:04
skajai type in sudo pon and nothing happends05:04
Hmmmmneed some help with security05:04
RedGhosti ran kaspersky, avast prom and noron on windows :x05:04
IceDC571"The X-Fi 24-bit Crystalizer and X-Fi CMSS-3D features allow you to "SuperRip" CDs into Xtreme Fidelity quality so you can now enjoy permanently enhanced music instead of low-quality MP3 files!"05:05
RedGhostnorton*05:05
kevogodlol05:05
DewDudeoh05:05
DewDudeHAH05:05
DewDudei don't know05:05
bob2skaja: er, did you watch your logs?05:05
Hmmmmi have users logging in through an application and they are allowed to execute code in /tmp05:05
bob2IceDC571: that's marketing crap05:05
NaliothRedGhost: linux has no known viruses05:05
DewDudewell...yes and no05:05
DewDudeyou can't fix bad mp3's05:05
RedGhostlol what the fuck05:05
Hmmmmi want to make sure they can delete or overwrite other people files in /tmp05:05
bob2RedGhost: language please05:05
bob2Hmmmm: that's a terrible idea05:05
Hmmmmbob2, i know05:05
DewDudebut if you're running 44.1, you could use some advanced interpolation models to attempt to up to like..9605:05
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bob2Hmmmm: but removing the t permission from /tmp will do that05:05
RedGhostyour saying no programmer has never gone through the trouble of enginerring a virus05:05
RedGhostand sorry for the swear05:06
Hmmmmi am going to move it to /home05:06
IceDC571i hate mp3's.. i can hear the difference no matter what bitrate its at05:06
bob2DewDude: that's crap too05:06
DewDudeheh05:06
Hmmmmbut as of now i have to make do with /tmp05:06
DewDudeyeah05:06
phayze2RedGhost: most exploits are patched within a few hours05:06
Hmmmmis there a  way around this?05:06
DewDudebob: i'll be the judge around that05:06
bob2RedGhost: how would a virus get to run on your machine to begin with?05:06
DewDudeerr05:06
DewDudeof05:06
bob2RedGhost: don't run random crap from the internet and you'll be fine05:06
NaliothRedGhost: the operation of *nix sort of precludes any major damage/gain from a virus05:06
bob2RedGhost: and make sure you keep u pwith security updates05:06
RedGhosthaha i dont, dont worry05:06
FR500im new to kernel stuff, i have to add  CONFIG_USB_ACM support, how do i do that?05:06
geeksauceproblem solved.  thnaks05:06
bob2DewDude: you can't use interpolation to create more detail than was there to begin with05:06
skajamy modem does not make a dialing out noise i tryed this i typed in sudo pon then loaded up fire fox and typed in google.com and it would not load the page05:07
IceDC571DewDude, ever heard of PlexTools? its my favorite ripping software05:07
DewDudei'm not saying you'll get more detail05:07
RedGhosthmm, ive never done any nix programming only windows, (thats the reason i installed linux for programming reasons) so i dont know much about unix internals05:07
bob2FR500: it's already enabled in ubuntu kernels...05:07
DewDudeyou'll be more analog sounding audio05:07
bob2wtf05:07
FR500bob2: ok05:07
bob2that's filtering, not interpolation05:07
FR500then unsupported device i guess05:07
DewDudeumm05:07
bob2FR500: it's a module, maybe it's not being autoloaded05:07
DewDudedepends how you look at it05:07
bob2skaja: look at your logs05:07
FR500bob2: modprobe acm rite?05:08
Hmmmmbob2, removing the t makes it unsticky. right?05:08
skajai dont know how to do that05:08
DewDudeif you've got 44100 samples and you wanna take it to 96...you can't filter the extra samples in05:08
RedGhostwell ill check out clamav, thanks for the advice all05:08
NaliothRedGhost: have fun with this (it's old but revelant) http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml05:08
bob2FR500: I dunno, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acm*"05:08
DewDudemost of the filtering done in SSRC is due to the fact a basic resampling causes haromic distortion05:08
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tritiumupsampling is in fact a form of discrete filtering05:08
FR500KM05:08
DewDudewell, maybe it is05:08
bob2Hmmmm: yeah05:09
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Naliothtritium: howdy05:09
skajabob so how do i look at the logs05:09
tritiumhi Nalioth, bob205:09
bob2hey tritium05:09
bob2skaja: tail -f /var/log/syslog05:09
Hmmmmand why wouldi want to make it unsticky, if i may ask?05:09
DewDudei've not heard the Xi-Fi "superrip"05:09
DewDudei don't know exactly how it works..i've come to not use hardware DSP's05:09
DewDudeeverything i do in software05:09
bob2Hmmmm: ?05:10
RedGhostnalioth, lol i really coulda used that a few days ago, that should be a great help ty05:10
DewDudeexcept EQ05:10
bob2Hmmmm: man chmod, "STICKY DIRECTORIES" explains what it means05:10
DewDudei got a nice piece of analog hardware to do my EQ for me05:10
bob2I stand by my opinion that "Xtreme Fidelity" is some sort of lie invented by their marketing department, tho05:10
Hmmmmthanks bob2, lemme check it out...05:10
IceDC571well its not that bad05:11
DewDudewould you say "Advanced Resolution" on DVD-Audio is a marketing gimmick?05:11
tritiumthe human ear can't hear much beyond 22k, so sampling at Nyquist (44k) is sufficient.  96k is overkill05:11
DewDudegood god05:11
rendiwhat's the best editor for html guy's like macromedia mx05:11
DewDudeyou people05:11
DewDudelike05:11
bob2I don't know what "Advanced Resolution" is05:11
rendianyone know ?05:11
IceDC571bob2, im surprised my live card sounds SO MUCH better than on windows, linux really brings out its full potential05:11
DewDudeyou take nyquist theory so literally05:11
IceDC571and creative havent updated their live drivers in years05:12
bob2but claiming you can extract more information from a CD than is there is a lie05:12
tritiumDewDude, of course.05:12
bob2IceDC571: heh05:12
DewDudei never said you could05:12
DonLtritium, maybe it's the system your dog or cat needs05:12
DonLlol05:12
tritiumDonL, ?05:12
DewDudeit's not about what your ears can hear05:12
DewDudeit's about digital sampling05:12
DewDudeand analog sound05:12
whyameyeI have been trying "kill -9 <PID>" and the process won't die. It's some sort of disk read and the disk activity light is on...05:12
bob2IceDC571: I'm always astounded by how shit i810 audio sounds, I need to move my sblive to the new desktop05:12
bob2whyameye: it's unkillable then05:13
tritiumDewDude, if your ears can't tell a difference, what's the point?05:13
DewDudei can05:13
DewDudeto a degree05:13
frank23DewDude: Iam wondering where you're going with: It's not what your ears can hear05:13
DonLtritium, just a joke about their hearing is better than ours... lol05:13
DewDudeit's more about preserving the original waveform05:13
bob2what is the point of anything you can't hear?05:13
DewDudeyou gotta remember...audio is analog05:13
tritiumDewDude, perhaps you have sensitivity above 22k.05:13
bob2you can't preserve the original waveform05:13
DewDudeyou can get closer05:13
whyameyebob2, the unkillable process is a disk read. Now I can't access the disk... The disk is damaged, BTW....05:13
bob2yes05:13
Naliothrendi: i know nothing like macromedia for html05:13
DewDude96k preserves more of the wave than 44.105:13
tritiumNo, sampling at Nyquist allows for perfect reconstruction05:13
tritiumNo05:13
Madpilotrendi: Bluefish or Screem (I prefer Screem)... ask ubotu about html05:13
DewDudebull05:13
bob2whyameye: yeah, then you're screwed05:14
DewDudeit doesn't05:14
bob2whyameye: the kernel ca't beat bad hardware05:14
DewDudewhy is hollywood running all thier digital through analog tape before mastering?05:14
frank23DewDude: At 44Khz whatever part of the original waveform is useless to you but maybe not to your cat05:14
frank23DewDude: At 44Khz whatever part of the original waveform you lose is useless to you but maybe not to your cat05:14
DewDudejsut stop05:14
DewDudewe're not going to agree05:14
tritiumYes it does, however...we can't produce a perfect sinc function, so there is a slight inefficiency there05:14
DewDudeyou're going to spout nyquist theory05:14
bob2DewDude: you seem to be confusing "people being used to analog artifacts" with "44khz is not enough"05:14
whyameyebob2, I'm just surprised it doesn't at some point give up and just report a read error...05:14
DewDudei'm going to spot my theory05:14
DewDudeit's going to clash05:14
bob2whyameye: it might eventually05:14
DewDudejust..ask yourself this...who's got professional remastering expierence05:15
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rendi!sound05:15
ubotusound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:15
whyameyebob2, it's been easily 15 min... This is a bummer. 70gig of ntfs crap. Most of it is readable...and then this happens when I try to copy it to a clean disk...05:15
DonLMust go for now. Thanks for the chat.05:16
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bob2whyameye: eep05:16
tritiumDewDude, Nyquist sampling theorem is well-developed, proven, and exact05:16
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DewDudeif nyquist theory produced perfect reproduction....then the first audio CD's that were mastered wouldn't have been crap...and there wouldn't be a push for 96/24 in the consumer market05:16
DewDudeyes..it works05:16
DewDudebut..for a purist05:16
DewDudeit's crap05:16
DewDudei'm a purist05:16
tritiumDewDude, the problem with CDs is the dynamic range.  it has nothing to do with sampling rate05:17
NaliothMadpilot: can you hit 44khz in -offtopic <snort>05:17
Carpe_LibertatemCan Ubuntu write to NTFS non-destructively?05:17
tritiumMadpilot is right.  Let's move this to #ubuntu-offtopic05:17
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: not safely05:17
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: if you use captive-ntfs, sort of05:17
bob2modulo the driver exploding05:17
DewDudewatever05:17
DewDudei'm not getting into it05:17
DewDudecuz it's 4billion against me05:17
DewDudeand no one's gonna get my back05:17
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: that is putting a windwos lib into your kernel05:17
DewDudebecause you obciously know he nyquist theorm and think 44.1/16 is all you need for great audio05:18
frank23DewDude: too much math/physics/eng background here I guess05:18
DewDudeobviously05:18
IceDC571i'm in #ubuntu-unregged :)05:18
IceDC571time to enter my password05:18
DewDudewhere as i have no math/physics and judge only by my ears05:18
Carpe_LibertatemIs there a way to covnert NTFS to fat?05:18
DewDudeCarpe: no05:18
bob2ah, my vague recollection was correct, nyquist is related to shannon's05:18
IceDC571Carpe_Libertatem, not really05:18
tritiumDewDude, sounds like you're sensitive to the poor dynamic range (a result of only 16-bit samples)05:18
whyameyebob2: it just came back! So...is there a way to reduce the number of read retries before reporting back failure?05:19
tritium_not_ the sampling rate05:19
bob2whyameye: hm, I don't know, sorry05:19
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: Partition Magic (tm) will do it05:19
DewDudetritium: dynamic range a bit....but the first CD's were mastered on standard 44.1/16 and sounded...digital05:19
lunitikbob2: wow... I think thats the first time I've ever heard that from you  :P05:19
lunitikbob2: you are human  :D05:19
lunitiks/heard/seen/05:20
Naliothlunitik: human or out-of-memory'd heh05:20
DewDudepeople prefer more analog sound...and from my standpoint...you take a signal...sample it 44100 times a second..you get a somewhat accurate representation..but you double the amount...and you've got more information there to recreate a wave05:20
DewDudeit's not about the extra 40khz of informtion05:20
NaliothDewDude: -offtopic, you seem to be holding your own05:20
tritiumDewDude, it's not extra information05:21
rendi!mysql05:21
ubotuhmm... mysql is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:21
firebird619Where can I type Initialization strings for my modem. It is an external modem and right now the connection speed is very slow and from reading info on the modem manufacturer site, to increase the speed I need to enter initialization strings, but it does not tell me where to enter them. Can someone please help me?05:21
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intelikeyhowto install lilo rather than grub when installing ubuntu ?05:22
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rendi====D~05:23
IceDC571i hate the offtopic section.. i want it to die05:23
lunitikintelikey: apt-get install lilo ; lilo05:23
IceDC571i mean seriously we're still talking about geek stuff05:23
lunitikintelikey: both require sudo05:23
rendilet talk about libido05:23
rendilol05:23
intelikeylunitik no from the cd's installer,  while installing ?05:24
lunitikintelikey: during install, I don't think its possible... maybe try expert mode... although if you use a different fs other than ext3, this is done automagically05:24
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skajaok there is what i get05:24
intelikeyanyone know ?05:25
skajacant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit05:25
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intelikeybrb05:27
Demon_strokeok am i in teh help channel now?05:27
skajabov you there?05:27
skajabob05:27
MadpilotDemon_stroke: yes05:27
NaliothDemon_stroke: you have somehow landed here05:28
cafuegoha05:28
IceDC571you think the soundblaster x-fi would work in ubuntu? lol05:28
Demon_strokei got a question, Will normal Linux Programs run on Ubuntu?05:28
IceDC571lol05:28
IceDC571i suppose so?05:28
IceDC571sorry05:28
IceDC571yes they will05:28
IceDC571what do you mean by normal linux programs?05:29
bimberiDemon_stroke: programs such as?05:29
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windexDemon_stroke, its really hard to answer that because vendors provide linux binaries for a billion diffrent types of platforms. the answer is, 'probably'.05:29
cafuegoDemon_stroke: Yes, but please do install them using syanptic whenever possible.05:29
intelikeyback05:29
Demon_strokewell i need a media player for ubuntu wut media player would u guyz reccommend05:30
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lunitikDemon_stroke: theoretically... they will... yes... Ubuntu is LSB complient...05:30
IceDC571Demon_stroke, it depends, do you want to run gnome or kde?05:30
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cafuegoDemon_stroke: beep-media-player for audio; totem or mplayer for video05:30
HrdwrBoBI assume  you mean "what media player would you guys recommend"05:30
HrdwrBoBin that case, what cafuego said05:30
frank23Demon_stroke: I gnome, I used gxine or mplayer for video05:30
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Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why when i change my sound levels in gnome the level doesnt change?05:30
IceDC571yeah what cafuego said05:30
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IceDC571but if you run kde.. kaffiene (i cant spell) is pretty nice05:31
cafuegokaffeine05:31
HrdwrBoBBad_Magic: depends, you may be changing a different level05:31
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Kyralhow would i set LC_ALL=05:32
Kalidarnhi in installing kubuntu on a laptop that doesn't have a internal cd drive (uses external usb interface) now as we know this works with nearly no linux distros. is it possible for me to install kubuntu/ubuntu in any other way that from the internet? like perhaps USB boot floppy then local FTP install? (thats how mandrake worked on there)05:32
skajabob here is my error cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit05:32
zdennisanyone know how to get your scroll wheel to work in linux?05:32
zdenniser...gnome05:32
ubuntu-askerhello, i dont know if was something i did wrong or if ubuntu install (breezy) gcc4 ?!?05:32
Bad_Magichrdwrbob: im using the keyboard shortcuts on my laptop (a little box pops up showing its actually doing something)... beyond that I couldnt tell ya05:32
cafuegoKalidarn: Is it a plain extermal USB cd drive?05:33
bob2ubuntu-asker: it indeed uses gcc 4.005:33
NaliothKalidarn: check your Priv Msgs05:33
cafuegoKalidarn: ... as in: no weird interface?05:33
ubuntu-askerbob2, doh... that weird :S i didnt expect that05:33
Demon_strokeok guyz ill brb, im getting an error message on startup also, ill grab a notepad and write it down05:33
Kalidarnyes.05:33
Kalidarni, someone in the #kubuntu channel told me about smartboot05:33
cafuegoKalidarn: Then provided you can boot off it, it should work fine.05:33
Kalidarni used it once before but it didnt wor05:33
zdennisbob2, what is typically the gcc vesion used, 3.3?05:34
Kalidarnwas another distro thogh05:34
bob2ubuntu-asker: breezy is the development version, it's not intended for end users yet05:34
cafuego!info gcc hoary05:34
ubotugcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB05:34
Demon_strokehey how do i know if its like kaffeine or wutever, or the other one?05:34
bob2zdennis: most distributions use gcc 3.3, yes; 3.4 and 4.0 change the way C++ libraries work, so it's a big step05:34
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zdennisso i should install 3.3?05:34
cafuegozdennis: just 'gcc'05:34
Kalidarncafuego, my drive is a USB IDE Bay (takes any IDE device) with a Pioneer 109 DVD Burner in it05:34
zdennisthx cafuego05:35
Kalidarnill try smartboot though05:35
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cafuegoKalidarn: Provided you can tell the laptop bios to boot off that drive, you should be able to install normally; the installer should detect a usb (or usb2) mass storage device.05:35
ubuntu-askerbob2, but.. gcc 3.4 can be considerer "testing" but... 4 this is REALLY testing05:35
cafuegoKalidarn: It's not really any different from booting off a usb key etc.05:35
juanejanyone using quod libet?05:35
Kalidarnit detects it alright05:35
ubuntu-askerbob2, i cant even compile the kernel with 4.05:36
Kalidarnbut the linux kernel has a problem at the moment with usb drives05:36
Kalidarnbasically it hangs at isolinux boot agent05:36
cafuegoKalidarn: ouch05:36
Kalidarnthis is with all distros except for Novel Linux Desktop05:36
Kalidarn(only had a trial of that)05:36
cafuegoKalidarn: Then again, that's BEFORE it actually boots.05:36
bob2zdennis: you generally want build-essential if you want to compile things.  it gets you the default gcc, etc.05:36
cafuego(the kernel, anyway)05:36
Kalidarnsame on my workstation :) if i use external USB05:36
Kalidarnwit any drive05:36
Kalidarni tried a liteon cd burner still failed and a LG DVD combo that failed the same way too05:37
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AristoMagnus!skype05:37
Carpe_LibertatemI can mount my /home/ directory to a FAT partition, can't I?05:37
ubotumethinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free05:37
bob2ubuntu-asker: ok05:37
cafuegoKalidarn: If the worst comes to the worst, you can always netboot via tftp and pass an installer initrd05:37
rob^can anyone using Breezy and an ATI graphics card confirm if the instructions at this pages works: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:37
intelikeyCarpe_Libertatem that will cause problems with most gui's05:38
Kalidarnthe only things that boot properly is WindowsXP Pro, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, Windows Vista 1.0 (and previous betas) and Novell Linux Desktop05:38
Carpe_Libertatemintellikey - how's that?05:38
Kalidarncafuego, thats how i did it before via internet installl05:38
Kalidarntry it External USB CD Drive, plain ol boot disk it wont matter what u use it will fail05:38
AristoMagnusFailed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 198.63.211.251 80] 05:39
AristoMagnus:s05:39
rob^no Breezy users here then?05:39
cafuegoAristoMagnus: yes, x86 only, i imagine.05:39
Kalidarncafuego, smartboot might be the answer thank god to the good buntu docs05:39
AristoMagnus:(05:39
cafuegorob^: Sure, but they're all smart enough to use nvidia ;-)05:39
AristoMagnuscafuego: i need to do  my chroot for 32bit :)05:39
intelikeylinux doesn't have a problem with it Carpe_Libertatem but most (if not all) gui's use files in your $HOME for verious things that they insist on being able to make those files secure and also they creat symlinks.05:39
cafuegoAristoMagnus: looks like it :-)05:39
AristoMagnushehehe05:39
rob^cafuego, yeah so am I, hence I need someone who has an ATI card to confirm if they work so I can add it to the FAQ Guide..05:40
Carpe_LibertatemI see. So is there a viable way to keep downloads and documents default to a directory on a FAT partition?05:40
cafuegorob^: From the reports I've heard on the state of their driver, i doubt it even compiles with gcc 4.05:40
AristoMagnusFAT sucks.. :|05:40
Kalidarncafuego, smart boot is how i did it last time ;)05:40
Carpe_LibertatemI dual-boot, and want an easy way to exchange files between Lin & Win.05:40
rob^cafuego, grr thats not what I wanted to hear.. :P05:40
AristoMagnusCarpe: ext2 can be mount from windows !05:40
cafuego!ext2fsd05:40
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, cafuego05:40
cafuegoCarpe_Libertatem: look for ext2fsd on sourceforge.05:41
Demon_strokeerror mesage: could not open internet adress for unbuntu(gnome), to fix copy ubuntu to ect/hosts.05:41
Demon_strokeany ideas?05:41
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Carpe_LibertatemIt can write?05:41
cafuegoCarpe_Libertatem: It mounts ext2 and ext3 read/write on Windows.05:41
AristoMagnusext3 too?05:41
Madpilotrob^: I know that Burgundavia has an ATI card - ask him about it05:41
cafuegoAristoMagnus: yes05:41
AristoMagnusnice!05:41
AristoMagnusdid you tried it05:41
rob^Madpilot, thanks05:41
cafuegoYes, I use it nearly every day.05:41
AristoMagnuscool05:42
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Demon_strokeerror mesage: could not open internet adress for unbuntu(gnome), to fix copy ubuntu to ect/hosts.<<<<<need help05:42
intelikeyyes you can "ln -s <your fat mount point> Documents" carpe_; and most things will dl to Documents by default. the ones that don't you can change the defaults...05:42
Demon_strokeanyone know how to fix the error message05:43
Demon_stroke....anyone?05:44
Nalioth!tell Carpe_Libertatem about windowsdrives05:44
intelikeyto fix copy ubuntu to ect/hosts.   ???05:44
Demon_strokeerror mesage: could not open internet adress for unbuntu(gnome), to fix copy ubuntu to ect/hosts.05:44
NaliothDemon_stroke: what does your prompt say when you open a terminal?05:44
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Demon_strokei dont get a prompt05:44
Demon_strokethat happens wen i log in05:45
NaliothDemon_stroke: yes you do, open a terminal and just look at it05:45
Demon_strokeok 1 sec05:45
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skajathere i'm back05:45
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Demon_strokesays my name then a lil money sign thingy05:47
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Milk_Is there a good dvd authoring suite that has a gui?05:47
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unuhello05:47
Demon_strokehmm05:47
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unudoes anyone know what sabdfl means?05:47
rendisudo apt-get install MySQL 4.1.1405:48
rendiPassword:05:48
rendiReading package lists... Done05:48
rendiBuilding dependency tree... Done05:48
rendiE: Couldn't find package MySQL05:48
rendihello05:48
MadpilotDemon_stroke: that is a prompt, then05:48
rendierr05:48
NaliothDemon_stroke: does it say "ubuntu" anywhere in there?05:48
Demon_strokeno05:48
Madpilotrendi: pastebin, please!05:48
Demon_strokeill double check05:48
rendiwhat the newes version of mysql ??05:48
Milk_sabdfl = self apointed benevolent dictator for life  (2nd link on google.. geez)05:48
Naliothrendi: dont paste in here. use #flood or a pastebin05:48
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rendii wannna to instal mysql05:48
rendiand get err like tha05:48
Milk_anywho... is there a good dvd authoring suite with a gui?05:48
Madpilot!tell rendi about lamp05:49
Demon_strokejayson@ubuntu:-$05:49
unurenni: apt-cache mysql | less05:49
bimberirendi: put mysql, not MySQL05:49
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rendiok05:49
NaliothMilk_: i think so (not sure of the name, tho)05:49
unurenni: apt-cache search mysql | less :)05:49
bimberiDemon_stroke: where do you get that error message?05:49
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unudoes anyone know what sabdfl means?05:49
NaliothDemon_stroke: ok, open a text editor using sudo05:49
Milk_Naolith, any ideas on where I can look?05:49
Demon_strokeas soon as i log in, i get 2 options, Log in anyway, and try again05:49
Milk_unu, ready above!05:49
skajaso how do i fix this error cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit05:49
NaliothDemon_stroke: and open /etc/hosts05:49
Milk_unu, OR.. GOOGLE IT!!!!05:50
NaliothMilk_: i don't know if 'dvdauthor' is a gui or not05:50
unuMilk_: google *doesn't* help05:50
unuMilk_: why would i ask on a forum, especially ubuntu05:50
Kalidarnwtf?05:50
Demon_strokeokie 1 moment05:50
NaliothDemon_stroke: you have terminals in your applicatins > system tools > terminal05:50
unuMilk_: it's the title of shuttleworth05:50
Madpilotunu: Supreme & Benelvolent Dictator For Life - a joke title for  mark shuttleworth05:50
Kalidarnweird bug05:50
Milk_unu, the 2nd link on google searching for it answers yoru question without even clicking it05:50
Madpilot*Benevolent, even...05:50
unuNalioth: which above?05:50
Milk_unu, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sabdfl&btnG=Google+Search05:51
Kalidarncafuego, where is the .img file i point rawwrite to?05:51
Naliothunu i have 0 clue what you're on about05:51
ilba7rhi i have a VT82C686 AC97 sound controller. Whenever i use the scroll keys on firefox i hear a scratchy sound. Any one had a problem similar to that?05:51
ilba7rI suspect might bne attributed to cpu load but i do not think it should do that05:52
Demon_strokeyes i do, in the text editor, under ect/hosts, says 127.0.0 sumtin then says Localhost05:52
unuwtf? i get different google results in links and mozilla05:52
unusomething is strange...05:52
Demon_strokei do not have internet on the ubuntu comp eiher05:52
frank23what script does a make install follow?05:52
unudamn google personalized search05:52
unuthanks for the link though05:52
Kalidarnoh duh i forgot ialread just downloaded it05:53
Kalidarni must ve tired05:53
NaliothDemon_stroke: put your cursor next to "localhost" space over a couple and type "ubuntu"05:53
Milk_well.. I guess I will have to try later05:53
Demon_strokek 1 sec05:53
NaliothDemon_stroke: then save it. log out and back in05:54
sjg!restrictedformats05:54
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'05:54
Demon_strokeread only and i cannot change the properties05:55
Demon_strokecan i save over a read only file?05:55
phrizeri installed the w32codecs, but still cant get totem to play files... do i need to install totem-xine?05:56
NaliothDemon_stroke: you have to open the text editor using sudo05:56
Demon_strokesudo...?05:56
Naliothphrizer: what kind of files?05:56
phrizerNalioth, divx, mpeg, wmv, avi05:56
phrizermp3.05:56
Demon_strokenot sure were that is,05:57
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Naliothphrizer: did you use synaptic to get them? or d/l and installed yourself?05:58
phrizersynaptix05:58
phrizerer05:58
NaliothDemon_stroke: at terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/hosts"05:58
phrizersynaptic05:58
MadpilotDemon_stroke: add "sudo" before whatever line05:58
Naliothphrizer: you also need this05:58
Nalioth!tell phrizer about restricted05:58
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phrizeryeah i read that05:58
skajaso how do i fix this error cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit05:58
phrizerNalioth, so i need to install totem-xine ?05:59
Madpilot!tell Demon_stroke about sudo05:59
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neoprodigyHave a question, I screwed up my home directory somehow which affected my gnome-panel, I changed the path and did killall gnome-panel and everything disappeared. Is there a way to reset my home directory path through a terminal?05:59
Naliothphrizer: no, you need to install a mp3 codec05:59
Naliothphrizer: read your PM05:59
phrizerI read that page.06:00
ununeoprodigy: what do you mean by changed path?06:00
ununeoprodigy: as in /etc/profile? or what?06:00
neoprodigyunu: I changed the path from /home/neoprodigy to /media/home06:00
neoprodigyunu: in the Users and Group tool06:01
ununeoprodigy: aaaaa06:01
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neoprodigyunu: I seem to remember this info being stored in a file somewhere06:01
Demon_stroke"unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostname()06:01
neoprodigyunu: But I don't remember which.06:01
unuwell you'll have to edit /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc06:02
NaliothDemon_stroke: have you got the hosts file open?06:02
Demon_strokeno i closed it b4 i did the sudo thing06:02
NaliothDemon_stroke: this is a common problem06:02
NaliothDemon_stroke: at a terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/hosts"06:02
neoprodigyunu, ok, thanks, i will take a look see06:02
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unuuse sudo for  /etc/profile  - it needs root privileges06:03
neoprodigyk, thanks a bunch06:03
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ununeoprodigy: no problem06:03
Demon_strokehmm06:03
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CCFIELhello ppl...06:03
Demon_strokewait unu i need to open the profile and do wut06:03
intelikeyhmmm i rm'd sudo   ;/06:04
CCFIELhas somebody as a package for ubuntu...gaim vv...= support webcam/06:04
NaliothDemon_stroke: open your hosts file. your .profile is not necessary06:04
Demon_strokei cannot open the hosts file using sudo i get the error message i just typed above06:05
Kalidarn:( thatx crap i got smart boot manager working and it noticed my DVD burner connected06:05
unuintelikey: use su06:05
Kalidarnbut its not in the boot menu06:05
unuDemon_stroke: ?06:05
Kalidarnsmart boot manager cant see my dvd drive either06:05
unuDemon_stroke: oh, that was for neoprodigy06:05
NaliothDemon_stroke: what password are you using?06:05
Demon_strokeo i c06:05
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Demon_strokei got it open im being an idiot, maybe 2 am isnt good for fixin, o well, anyways, its open, but its also empty06:06
intelikeyunu na i just login as root   and keep a root console open06:06
Demon_strokethe localhost words and all that are gone06:06
kairu0hi all! i have a problem with my system crashing occasionally with sound files. when i right click on an mp3 in the file manager and choose properties it crashes. what might cause this?06:06
BubbleflyHuh... How can I make mailto: links work in Firefox/Thunderbird?06:07
NaliothDemon_stroke: go to the "open" dialog and find /etc/hosts06:07
unuintelikey: do *not* login as root, use a root console if you must06:07
NaliothBubblefly: system > prefs > preferred applications06:08
BubbleflyNalioth: Yeah, I already have it in there... but mailto links still don't open? :306:08
Naliothunu: it's intelikey's box. let him do as he likes06:08
NaliothBubblefly: hmm. strange06:09
phrizerNalioth, i read that url, still stumped as to what im ment to install.06:09
neoprodigyunu: Nothing in the /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc that helps me change the path for my home directory06:09
Demon_strokeok06:09
ununeoprodigy: oh, stupid me, you changed the path to you home :) wait a min06:09
Demon_strokehas all the words in it now06:09
intelikeyunu ?06:09
unuNalioth: of course, but you don't need more spammers :)06:09
Demon_strokeso do i just add ubuntu past the localhost words06:09
tritiumNalioth, did the daily install image work for you?06:10
unuNalioth: as in rooted :D06:10
NaliothDemon_stroke: find the "localhost" next to the 127.0.blah and next to the 'localhost' a couple spaces, type "ubuntu"06:10
NaliothDemon_stroke: then save it. log out and back in06:10
ununeoprodigy: usermod06:10
Naliothtritium: i cant get good downloads06:10
Demon_strokek ill brb06:10
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ununeoprodigy: man usermod, usermod -d /home/name  i  think06:11
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Nalioththey say they're comeplete (via wget and curl) but they're almost half empty (using the torrent hash to check via gtorrentviewer)06:11
tritiumNalioth, ah, I see.06:11
Naliothi cant figger it06:11
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tritiumI'm going to test today's daily now.  I'm also on as mrimbert06:11
neoprodigyunu: i'll take a look at the man, thanks for pointing the direction06:11
ununeoprodigy: still around?06:11
tritiumbe back soon06:11
ununeoprodigy: found it usermod -d /home/neo :)06:12
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neoprodigyunu: that's what i'm looking for! thanks!06:12
ununeoprodigy: you're welcome06:12
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Demon_strokeyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ur teh s**t Nalioth06:13
Demon_stroke;)06:13
unuintelikey: logging in as root is *bad* for security; every little thing that could go wrong will crash your system..think windows :P06:13
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Demon_strokei was on windows Xp but my comp's hd reformat was too large, so it was laggy, ubuntu runs a bit better and its nice to expeirience sumtin a little different06:14
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intelikeyunu think "my box, if i want to break it!"   :)06:14
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andrewskibob2: around?06:15
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tritiumandrewski: he went to lunch06:15
unuintelikey: yes, but a rootkit could affect me too via spam :D06:15
unuintelikey: ubuntu spirit everywhere :D06:16
andrewskitritium: anyone else here a bash/tar guru?06:16
Naliothandrewski: ask your question, you never know who can answer06:16
tritiumandrewski: ask and find out, I guess ;)06:16
sjgAnyone can tell me how to make beep-media-player my default sound application over rhythmbox?06:17
intelikeyunu you are talking about irc'ing as root,  i don't do that.06:17
frank23speaking of tar, I heard that tar now detects compression on its own and that the z or j option is not necessary. This doesn't work in ubuntu however06:17
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Naliothsjg: system > prefs > preferred apps06:18
unufrank23: one more letter doesn't hurt06:18
cafuegofrank23: No, you were probably told wrong.06:18
sjgNalioth, No option listed for sound ..06:18
andrewskitritium: i'm using the following to copy while preserving hierarchy: "while IFS=$'\n' read i; do tar -cf - "$i/"* | ( cd /media/IAUDIO/music; tar -xf - ); done < folders" (folders is a file).  but for some reason it escapes colons, so that any file with a colon fails because it's quoted and has a backslash.  --force-local doesn't work because the syntax is all funny....06:18
unuintelikey: try cd / && rm -rf :D just kidding, don't do that06:18
sjgunu, thats mean.06:19
sjglol06:19
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frank23unu: that wouldn't work without sudo06:19
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unusjg: no, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda is mean06:19
cafuegoandrewski: 'cp -a' is nice,06:19
Naliothunu: lets keep those jokes out of here, please, we sometimes have impressionable folks06:19
unusjg: dont't do that either06:20
andrewskicafuego: nope, this does exactly what i want but fails on filenames with a colon.06:20
unuNalioth ok, ok...06:20
frank23Nalioth: I actually think your concern is justified ;-)06:20
andrewskii just can't get the syntax right with the --force-local flag.06:20
cafuegoandrewski: ergo: it does not do what you want (I assume you don't want it to fail)06:20
unui told them not to do it06:20
andrewskicafuego: sure, but i don't want to use cp or i'd be using cp.06:21
cafuegoandrewski: Any reason?06:21
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andrewskicafuego: cannot open: invalid argument06:21
cafuegoapart from having a slightly more convoluted way that doesn't work?06:21
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Naliothfrank23: believe me, it is.. .. ..06:21
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unuandrewski: maybe rename the files? like from : to _06:21
teardrop_candrewski: thats what i tell my wife06:21
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teardrop_candrewski: cannot clean: invalid argument06:22
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andrewskiunu: this is a lot of files.06:22
BROKEN_LADDERis there a way to specify in sessions to start up apps in a specific window, that is, apps that don't support sessions.06:22
BROKEN_LADDER?06:22
cafuegoandrewski: If it automatically escapes, perhaps just don't quote.06:22
unuandrewski: with a script of course =))06:22
teardrop_candrewski: you could combine find with a sed command06:22
unuandrewski: not by hand :))06:22
andrewskicafuego: but the filenames have other characters--spaces, parentheses--that need to be quoted.06:23
frank23Nalioth: Someguy apt-get removed glibc when I told him to downgrade it... I should have anticipated that06:23
andrewskii repeat: i just can't get the syntax with --force-local right.06:23
andrewskicould someone help me with that, specifically?06:23
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unufrank23: no problem, i heard of gentoo people that removed gcc :P06:23
unufrank23: or python06:23
tritiumandrewski: did you ask in #bash?06:23
cafuegoandrewski: Does it also escape when you just run for in in `cat folders`; do .....; done ?06:24
andrewskitritium: yeah, they were helping me, then just disappeared.06:24
misterdeffhello. can someone please tell me how to access my ntfs partition?06:24
cafuego!ntfs06:24
Nalioth!tell misterdeff about windowsdrives06:24
cafuegostupid bot06:24
unuNalioth:)) why not?06:24
BROKEN_LADDERMany people had dogs that they were not permitted to take on the bus. A police officer took one from a little boy, who cried until he vomited. The policeman told a reporter he did not know what would happen to the dog06:25
Naliothunu: why not what?06:25
andrewskicafuego: tried that, but wouldn't work with the spaces.  the while works.06:25
unuNaliot why not ntfs?06:25
unu!ntfs = not ntfs :)06:25
ubotuNo idea, unu06:25
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Naliothunu: What?06:26
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konra`is there any way to set up ubuntu to enable a windows machine to use a printer hooked up to it?06:26
Nalioth!tell unu about windowsdrives06:26
cafuegoandrewski: Did you find out WHY 'cp' prints an error?06:26
meeephi. how do i add a path in my $PATH ?06:26
andrewskicafuego: tar prints the error.06:26
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cafuegomeeep: export PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar06:26
frank23meeep: you can edit .bashrc06:26
teardrop_cmeeep: add it into bashrc or similar06:26
Madpilotkonra`: yes, but I don't know details06:26
konra`Madpilot, any suggestions?06:27
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unusorry about the bot - suse has susehelp, which is more intuitive - i didn't get it :)06:27
unubut now i do :P06:27
PuffballDoes Ubuntu have a preset root password on a fresh installation?06:28
cafuego!+root06:28
uboturoot is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:28
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NaliothPuffball: no06:28
cafuegoPuffball: In others words: you don't need root.06:28
unu!login06:28
ubotuNo idea, unu06:28
Naliothcafuego: why are there + signs in your bot requests?06:28
unu!+login06:28
ubotuI haven't a clue, unu06:28
unu!ubuntu06:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards06:28
meeepi look into .bashrc, but just cant find something that recalls the $PATH - thingie? :S06:28
cafuegoNalioth: karma06:28
PuffballI get this error to modify and add my hostname to /etc/host, but when I try to edit the file, I can't, because root has ownership of it.06:28
intelikeypuffball no the passwd for root is not set,  that is how it is "disabled" so to speek06:28
Madpilotkonra`: I think SAMBA will allow you to do it06:28
unu!+ubuntu06:28
ubotuubuntu is probably an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards06:28
unu!awards06:29
ubotusomebody said awards was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks06:29
konra`!samba06:29
ubotufrom memory, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:29
tritiumlook what you've started, cafuego ;)06:29
unu:))06:29
cafuegoyeah06:29
intelikeyPuffball if you ever need to "enable" root just sudo passwd06:29
cafuego!botabuse06:29
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.06:29
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frank23nice06:30
PuffballAh, thanks06:30
Naliothcafuego: what is the command for ubotu to google something ?06:30
intelikeynp06:30
cafuegoNalioth: !scrape, but I'm fairly sure the scrape module is disabled.06:30
snizalrighty, I'm currently on the 5.04 LiveCD, and I have absolutely no options for changing my resolution in xorg... I would try editing the xorg.conf, but i'm afraid that i'd write out all that crap for nothin', cuz i'd have to reboot06:30
cafuegoit is.06:31
snizwhat the crap06:31
frank23!resolution06:31
uboturesolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:31
intelikey!+help06:31
ubotuI learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"06:31
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snizoi06:31
cafuegointelikey: thanks for not spamming.06:31
unu:))06:31
snizlemme try this out ;] 06:31
cafuegointelikey: you can '/msg ubotu help'06:31
intelikeyi expected that to be a /msg reply06:32
unutry  that in debian-bots :D06:32
cafuegointelikey: Don't use the '+'06:32
unu3 pages worth06:32
intelikeyoh  ok06:32
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chrismyhail all06:32
cafuegochrismy: where? there's sun here...06:32
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CCFIELhello ppl..06:33
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konra`lol06:33
snizthanks frank2306:33
Octaneis there still no flash for amd64?06:33
snizimma try these out ;] 06:33
chrismycafuego, hey ubotu's creator :D yes you know well i am in Malaysia06:33
CCFIELhas somebody here compiled gaim vv=webcam support?06:33
cafuegochrismy: stop accusing me06:33
chrismycafuego, huh?06:33
frank23Octane: until you can get macromedia to make one, no06:33
cafuegoOctane: Why would you want flash if you were smart enough to buy amd64?06:33
unuOctane: imho ubuntu on amd64 is *very* unstable06:33
unuOctane: use i386...06:34
Octaneunu: i run it on amd64 and its great06:34
cafuegounu: amd64 runs fine.06:34
Octaneya06:34
Naliothtritium: you dailys come down alright?06:34
Octaneyou dont know what youre talking about06:34
Octaneanyway, i just wanted to see if its come out06:34
tritiumNalioth: yes, downloading 20050901.1 right now.06:34
Octaneill keep using firefix32 bit06:34
ali4728Help needed to set up Name Based Hosting (Multiple sites on single IP)06:34
tritiumWell, burning it to disk, actually06:34
unuunu: i used a kubuntu on amd64.... horrible06:35
Naliothtritium both aug31 and todays did the same thing.06:35
unucafuego: : i used a kubuntu on amd64.... horrible06:35
tritiumNalioth: want me to snail-mail one to you?  ;)06:35
Octaneunu: im running kubuntu 6406:35
frank23unu: I did that too before I switched to i386. did kaffeine work for you?06:35
cafuegounu: Yes of course, KDE is horrible no matter what arch you run it on.06:35
cafuegounu: It's hardly fair to blame that on the cpu.06:35
tritiumNalioth: kernel panic still?06:35
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Naliothtritium: heh, by that time, we'll be at Preview Release X06:35
chrismyubuntu on my AMD64 has no problems so far ;)06:35
Naliothtritium: i aint got a current one to use06:36
intelikeycafuego k seems ok on this p133mmx   :)06:36
tritiumokay06:36
Dr_WillisUbuntu on my V2311us Turion Based Laptop = ACK. :(06:36
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unucafuego: not only kde, firefox too06:36
unucafuego: believe me, it was unbrowsable - 3 tabs and bang..06:36
cafuegounu: I run amd64 (breezy) and currently have NO problems.06:37
unuunu: you lucky guy :P06:37
sjgcafuego: same here, runs like a dream06:37
cafuegoI've had the odd package brokenness that comes with running breezy, but certainly no unexplained crashes or hangs.06:37
intelikeyahh  what am i supposed to do with it   ?????06:37
unucafuego: breezy? isn't that a bit risky?06:37
sjgcafuego: and my laptop is kinda a pos lol06:37
cafuegounu: Not for people who 1) know what they're doing and 2) can fix problems without hassling #ubuntu.06:38
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sjgunu, breezy is pretty stable tbh06:38
frank23cafuego: can you install i386 packages with that?06:38
cafuegofrank23: I run a 32bit (i386) chroot for openoffice i386.06:38
cafuegoThough OOo2 is now working again.06:38
sjgfrank23: You can run i386 packages in a chrooted envir06:38
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frank23cafuego: ok. but I heard that multiarch would be in breezy. Is that true?06:39
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unucafuego: give me examples of problem fixing - hacking ? or plain package management?06:39
cafuegofrank23: Yeah, I can install it without the chroot, but I'd rather not start mixing stuff whilst breezy isn't stable.06:39
frank23cafuego: And does your chroot see stuff in /media ? It never did for me before in hoary06:40
Puffballintelikey: running 'sudo passwd root' returned something relatively close to: "failed to return ... from getbyhost()"06:40
cafuegounu: Having config file backups, knowing when to restore/downgrade using /var/cache/apt/archives, knowing how (and WHEN) to use force commands for dpkg, using equivs, managing custom apckages.06:40
unucafuego: so not hacking... you forgot to mention that you need to want to do it06:41
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unucafuego: maybe i could handle it, but i don't want to, frankly06:41
mello6hey fella,s what's a program that'll unarchive .rar files that ubuntu will work with?06:42
cafuegounu: Hacking is only necessary when stuff is VERY badly broken, I've not seen that sinec the libpam issues on Debian Sid.06:42
intelikeyPuffball then fall back to su  and then passwd06:42
cafuegoPuffball: You *could* just use sudo, you know.06:42
frank23mello6: rar  which is in multiverse06:42
Naliothmello6: unrar-nonfree06:42
intelikeyyou don't add the root anyway...06:42
cafuegoPuffball: Just check you have an entry for your local hostname in /etc/hosts06:42
tritiumNalioth: did you see my new "monitor"?06:42
intelikeyit is just sudo passwd06:42
PuffballI don't, but when I try to modify it, I can't.06:43
Naliothtritium: i think i have its brother in front of me06:43
ali4728Help needed !! Name Based Hosting?06:43
cafuegoPuffball: If you get yoyr password right, it will. it just needs to time-out on the hostname lookup.06:43
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cafuegoali4728: http://httpd.apache.org/ - lots of docs.06:43
PuffballI see06:43
tritiumNalioth: http://mip-lab4.ecn.purdue.edu/~rimbert/images/P1010171.JPG06:44
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scooba_stevehello06:46
unuhello06:47
CCFIELhello ...ppl..06:48
scooba_stevei'm running off of the Ubuntu Hoary livecd right now, and i noticed that when i move windows arround it has a sort of "ghost" effect when redrawing the windows, is this normal? is there a way to fix this?06:48
unuscooba_steve: check the refresh06:48
CCFIELdoes somebody here has a package for gaim vv=webcam support?06:48
CCFIELdoes somebody here has a package for gaim vv=webcam support?06:48
Naliothscooba_steve: it doesnt do that on an installed ubuntu06:48
scooba_steveokay06:48
Quinthiuswhat is the usual way to stop various services from starting on boot?06:48
cafuegoCCFIEL: No need to repeat.06:48
unuCCFIEL: google it, you might be lucky06:49
cafuegoQuinthius: Easiest is to install and run 'rcconf'.06:49
Naliothwhere'd tritium go?06:49
CCFIELcafuego: sorry...06:49
tritiumI'm here06:49
Quinthiuscafuego: thanks, will check it out06:49
cafuegoQuinthius: (Actually, uninstalling the pkg in question is even easier ;-)06:49
Quinthiuscafuego: well, true :P06:50
scooba_stevei'm going to restart, because i updated a piece of software and i guess it quit a daemon, but since i'm on the livecd it will all go back to normal when i restart...06:50
scooba_stevegoodbye06:50
unucafuego: that's even more dangerous that my jokes06:50
intelikeyQuinthius if you like doing things by hand, remove the symlink to the things you don't want to start from /etc/rc#.d/   and /etc/rcS.d/06:50
Quinthiuscafuego: but some, like postfix, cause ubuntu-desktop to be removed also... and im kinda hesitant about doing that06:50
Carpe_LibertatemDoes Opera on Linux not have the built-in BT client?06:50
unucafuego: one uninstall later and and bye bye system'06:50
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cafuegoQuinthius: Indeed; but you really do want postfix running.06:51
andrewskiok, rsync lackeys: can anyone help me with it?06:51
LaserLineHello all, When re-installing Ubuntu Hoary, When I select partitions, Should I make the Primary onw "bootflag" on or off ?06:51
cafuegointelikey: 'rcconf' does that via a nice interface.06:52
Quinthiuscafuego: well, maybe, but there are others, like cups, that are useless to me06:52
LaserLineNote that's I'm wiping the HD before.06:52
andrewskicafuego: 'rsync . /media/IAUDIO/music --include-from folders'06:52
andrewskiskipping directory .06:52
andrewskicafuego: any ideas?06:52
intelikeymc is a nice interface for that....  or gentoo.... or even nautilus.06:52
cafuegoLaserLine: if you wiped the HD, just tell it to auto-partition.06:52
cafuegoandrewski: is . in the folder list?06:53
unuintelikey: rcconf is nice06:53
andrewskicafuego: doesn't matter if it is; it says the same thing.06:53
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LaserLinecafuego I don't wany EXT3, I'm having too many problems with it, I'm goint to try ReiserFS (3 times EXT3 failing - don't like it)06:53
unuspeaking of which, other nice admin packages are editkeep and orphaner06:53
intelikeyk unu when i get back to un i06:54
intelikeytry it06:54
intelikeysorry bumped the return by mistake... there ^06:54
frank23LaserLine: problems with ext3? are you sure its not your disk?06:54
cafuegoLaserLine: Um, reiser os FAR more likely to fail than ext3.06:54
Kalidarnhmm okay that didnt work either06:54
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Kalidarntime to install ubuntu from the internet06:54
cafuegoLaserLine: make sure you 1) shut your machinw down properly and 2) Don't have bad hardware.06:54
sjgext3 is "Far" more reliable than reiserfs imo06:54
worthawholebeanHow can I share a printer from an Ubuntu computer to a Mac OS X comp?06:54
cafuegoworthawholebean: Both Mac OS X and Linux use CUPS.06:55
tritiumworthawholebean: cups06:55
worthawholebeanWhere's the documentation?06:55
Kalidarnwhat size?06:55
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KalidarnD or C?06:55
intelikeysjg you have had data loss with reiserfs ?06:55
LaserLinecafuego 1. I shutdown machine proberly. 2. I checked the disk various times with UBCD, and all say it's good.06:55
tritiumworthawholebean: all packages put their docs in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>06:55
Kalidarni like D CUPS06:56
bimberiNalioth: you got ops! Yay!06:56
worthawholebeanThanks.06:56
Kalidarnis one CUP fuller than the other?06:56
LaserLinecafuego, Should I try partitioning  the drive, but telling it that to start from the end instead of beginning ?06:56
sjgintelikey: had a whole drive unusable. Till reformat06:56
tritiumKalidarn: please watch the comments06:56
Naliothbimberi: i do?06:56
cafuegoLaserLine: Then something else is goign wrong, somewhere. You're ceratinly not going to get BETTER reliability with reiser (Though feel free to find out the hard way).06:56
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Kalidarnhey trit i was talking about plastic beakers06:56
Kalidarnywith water06:56
intelikeysjg one time ?06:56
sjgintelikey: Yes, just one time06:56
Kalidarni like more water than less so i asked if one of te cups was fuller than the other one06:56
bimberiNalioth: hehe06:56
Naliothbimberi: what now?06:56
cafuegoLaserLine: Well, at a minimum start at the front, have a large / partition.. use maybe 512Mb or so swap.06:57
sjgintelikey: Never had any issues with ext3 at all06:57
intelikeysjg i was just wondering what that "<sjg> ext3 is "Far" more reliable than reiserfs imo" was bassed on ?06:57
LaserLinecafuego, start at the front ?06:57
cafuegoLaserLine: yes06:57
sjgintelikey: Just what I said, I had issues with reiserfs, never with ext306:57
LaserLinecafuego, what does that mean ?06:57
tritiumsjg: I too had issues with reiserfs06:57
intelikeyi've never had a problem with reiser  but i have  two times with ext2/306:58
cafuegosjg: I've had 2 unrecoverable FS issues with reiser, 3 with XFS. None with ext2 and ext3.06:58
sjgintelikey: *knock on wood*06:58
intelikeybut it was probably hardware rather than software related..06:58
cafuegosjg: The stats overall seem to indicate ext3 is the one to use.06:58
sjgagreed cafuego, im all for ext306:58
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Carpe_LibertatemI just apt-got fbpanel, when I try to run it I get06:58
Carpe_Libertatemfbpanel: can't start plugin menu06:58
Carpe_Libertatemfbpanel: can't start panel06:58
dabaRhey!! Happy new year!!06:59
sjg..06:59
gusto5whats fbpanel?!07:00
dabaRIm just joking, cause I turn on my screen, and its exactly midnight...07:00
unubye07:00
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LaserLinecafuego, I Didn't understand what you meant with the "minimum start at the front"07:00
sjgHmm, not midnight here :P07:00
dabaRright, that too.07:00
sjgBut it will be that timezone soon for me once I move07:00
CarlFKlive CD - i told it that 1024xz7 was the hightest the res will go, but now I see it will do more (laptop screen isn[t full).  other than reboot, how can I enable a higer res?07:01
cafuegoLaserLine: For a minimal partition scheme. / and swap. make / be the first.07:01
Quinthiusoddly enough, it was just exactly midnight here :)07:01
andrewskibob2: back yet?07:01
LaserLinecafuego Ok, but should It asks "would you like to create it at the beginig or the end of the drive".. what's the diffrence ?07:01
NaliothCarlFK: run the dpkg-reconfigure dance07:02
CarlFKthanks07:02
sjgI cannot wait to be in chi-town. ...so sick of california07:02
sjgand the 3.25 gas prices do not help07:02
Quinthiusis there a huge difference between a normal install and a "server" install? or does the server just not include some desktop-oriented stuff?07:02
CarlFKsjg - i grew up in San Jose, now live in chi.  where you from/going?07:02
sjgsunnyvale to chicago07:02
intelikeyah the windy city07:03
CarlFKsjg - I just went past a station: 2.35, 45 and .55 - so fill up before you leave ;)07:03
andrewskioh, please, it's 3.19 here in philly.07:03
tritiumsjg: I'll be in sunnyvale on Wednesday night07:03
sjg3.25 makes me sad :(07:03
LaserLinecafuego, I meant the Ubuntu Partitioner asks me where to create it...07:03
sjg98 dollar fillup this evening07:03
NaliothQuinthius: server does not include X or any X things07:03
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QuinthiusNalioth: ahhh okie07:03
cafuegoLaserLine: and I said 'at the beginning"07:03
LaserLinecafuego, Ok, Thanks.07:04
andrewskicafuego: for all the people who have lauded rsync, no one knows how to make it do what tar does.07:04
sjgtritium: sunnyvale is overrated :)07:04
cafuegosjg: That's still below what the rest of the world pays, so expect it to go up.07:04
sjgcafuego: Agreed07:04
tritiumsjg: it's just a business trip, overnight07:04
cafuegoandrewski: I've only ever used it remotely.07:04
sjgcafuego: Sadly my truck gets like 17 mpg :(07:04
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sjgtritium: where ya from?07:05
worthawholebeanscore one for hybrids07:05
tritiumsig: Albuquerque07:05
worthawholebean:)07:05
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sjgI want the new lexus hybrid suv07:05
cafuegosjg: Why do you need to drive a truck instead of a normal car?07:05
andrewskiworthawholebean: i wish i could afford one, that's for sure.07:05
sjgcafuego: only vehicle, And I do quite a bit of camping, Nice to have a truck07:05
worthawholebeanAnyway, about that printer... So you just set it up normally? And sharing works by default?07:05
cafuegosjg: Imagine how little fuel a non-SUV hybrid would use.07:05
tritiumtoo bad hybrids have battery problems in hot climates like New Mexico07:05
sjgPlus for work  :P07:05
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LaserLinecafuego, The reason why I'm changing the FS is becasue yesterday I reinstalled my Laptop (Only Ubuntu on it) and after I finished setting it up, and Installing all my software, I rebooted and got "EXT3 FS erros" and missing INODES, and after that some modules in the Kernel directory (sound) wern't able to load and I recieved Module erros. The system have shutdown properly.07:06
sjgcafuego: eevvvvil.07:06
tritiumthat may be a bit excessive, cafuego ;)07:06
dabaRQuinthius: I also hear there is a big difference, not just that. tritium what is your take on the diff between the server, and normal install, is it only the X things, that differ?07:06
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sjgBut alas I cannot afford a new vehicle. So Ill just stick with the titan07:06
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cafuegoIf a car can't go somewhere, maybe you should go there by car. Walk, fat-ass.07:06
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sjgAnd Complain about the gas prices.07:06
tritiumdabaR: that's the only difference I'm familiar with07:06
cafuegos/should/shouldn't/07:06
dabaRoki.07:06
sjglol cafuego07:07
cafuegotritium: I've come to that considered opinion after cycling around Melbourne.07:07
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sjgcourse the toyota prius has become a possible option if i have to commute much more after i move07:07
sjg50 mpg would be heavenly07:07
tritiumcafuego: still a bit excessive, I'd say07:08
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cafuegotritium: When poeple drive SUVs because they prefer to be in a heavier, alrger car when they crash, they need to be made soylent green.07:08
sjgcafuego: What about people that drive superbikes?07:08
sjgThose things dont exactly get good gas milage07:08
LaserLineDudes, I got a CRAZY idea.... NTFS never had problems with my system (XP worked flawlessly)... What would Happend if I Installed UBUNTU with NTFS ???07:08
cafuegosjg: They use far less fuel and DO pay attention to fellow traffic, because they're ALSO vulnerably.07:09
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NaliothLaserLine: waht are you doing?07:09
QuinthiusLaserLine: i don't think linux has very good write support for ntfs at all yet...07:09
sjgcafuego: true, i know when i ride mine Im very careful cause i dont wanna get crunched07:09
LaserLineNalioth Trying not to Install Windows XP on my laptop.............07:10
sjgBut normally I drive my truck everywhere about 95% of the time, 40k + miles a year.07:10
Naliothby ctcp'ing us?07:10
tritiumI dislike drunk drivers far more than I disklike SUV drivers07:10
cafuegosjg: That;s a massive difference from wiping out pedestrians, cycles, bikes and smaller cars with a damn TANK.07:10
Carpe_Libertatemtritium: what about drunken SUV drivers?07:10
Quinthiustritium: dont ever come to kansas then...07:10
NaliothQuinthius: i say that writing to NTFS from linux is the best first step to an all-linux box07:10
tritiumCarpe_Libertatem: ;)07:10
tritiumoh, the drunk driving in New Mexico is pretty bad07:11
cafuegosjg: Probably 80% of those here don't use their mirrors, because theye xpect small fry to get out of the way anwyay.07:11
sjgomg07:11
sjgcafuego: where you live?07:11
LaserLineWhy shouldn't I choose EXT2 ? I'm reading here: http://linux.org.mt/article/filesystems  (very interesting)07:11
sjgAhh, NZ yah...07:11
MadpilotIf it's an all-Linux box, why not just use EXT3 or similar? wwho needs NTFS?07:11
Quinthiustritium: oh, i thought you said "truck" drivers. but drunk is even more applicable here :(07:11
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone here use Fluxbox?07:11
dabaRI use openbox.07:11
cafuegosjg: Melbourne07:12
NaliothLaserLine: use ext3 (psst, it's ext2 + journaling = ext3)07:12
cafuegosjg: (Australia)07:12
Carpe_LibertatemIs that similar to fluxbox?07:12
sjgntfs.....is a microsoft proprietary filesystem, it belongs no where near linux imo07:12
CarlFKhttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive  The first free NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux07:12
BurgundaviaCarlFK, not free07:12
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: it is similar...like debian and ubuntu:)07:12
BurgundaviaCarlFK, it requires the MS NTFS driver07:12
sjgcafuego: I assumed nz from your domain, heh :p07:12
hondjeI thought captive wasn't being developed anymore07:12
NaliothCarlFK: if you like the idea of a microsoft lib riding along with your kernel07:13
cafuegoCarlFK: isn't that a filthy travesty like ndiswrapper?07:13
LaserLineNalioth Reading about that now... But I can't TRUST EXT3 anymore on this laptop... 3 times, the same problems... while every check on UBCD says my drive is good.07:13
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: I have not used the fluxbox much, so I cant tell you.07:13
cafuegoLaserLine: Go ext2, then.07:13
NaliothLaserLine: chuck the lappy07:13
LaserLineNalioth, Even checked the CPU, Memory and IDE controllers.07:13
Carpe_LibertatemdabaR: Is it easy to change themes in?07:13
cafuegoLaserLine: if ext2 fucks up, you DO have a hardware issue.07:13
MadpilotLaserLine: time to replace the lappy's harddrive?07:13
LaserLineNalioth I was searching EBAY for a Super Elektro-Magnet....... but they are too expensive...07:13
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: which openbox? ya... #fluxbox exists.07:14
sjgLaserLine: Your hdd might be having issues. Seriously,07:14
Carpe_LibertatemYeah, I'm there.07:14
NaliothLaserLine: car or truck works good07:14
CarlFKBurgundavia - why would you have NTFS if you didn't have the MS drivers already?07:14
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NaliothLaserLine: is the lappy near you and connected to the net right now?07:14
sjgLaserLine: What is ext3 doing that makes it "mess up"07:14
worthawholebeanHow do I get my hard drive(s) to show on the desktop?07:14
CarlFK(same question for anyone else commenting on why ntfs)07:14
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LaserLineNalioth - Yes...07:14
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: there is a openbox forum thread at ubuntuforums.org, started by stormy eyes.07:14
NaliothLaserLine: got a livecd?07:15
LaserLinesjb, nothing. I installed my selection of software. and that's about it...07:15
dabaRhe left...07:15
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BurgundaviaCarlFK, umm, you are missing the point07:15
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sjgLaserLine: So whats the "Problem" then?07:15
BurgundaviaCarlFK, captive is not free by any stretch of the imagination07:15
dabaRworthawholebean: which ones? do you have a computer icon on the desktop?07:16
NaliothLaserLine: can you boot the lappy with an ubuntu liveCD and get it online?07:16
LaserLinesjb I recieve EXT3 FS Errors on Boot time, and after I fix it with recovery mode and "shutdown -rF now" I recieve other problems like modules being bad and so, and then another fsck session needs to be run.07:16
dabaRback up.07:17
CarlFKum, I can DL and use the captive part, without having to pay any more than I did for the OS that got me ntfs inthe first place.  how is that not free?07:17
LaserLineNalioth - Harddrive is 63% wiping, in 8 minutes I could get it online, but with no data on the drive..07:17
CarlFKor is the fact that I have to pay for the  CPU and Hard drive make everything "not free"?07:17
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sjgLaserLine: Did you power the system off, without proper shutdown?07:17
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MadpilotCarlFK: it's the fact that you have to pay MS for the NTFS drivers that make the whole NTFS-writer app non-Free...07:18
dabaRCarlFK: ? are you asking what it means free in the free software circles?07:18
som1hi, my dad just bought some leet digital camera (hp photosmart m417), how do i download the pictures from it? :] 07:18
dabaRsom1: tried plugging it into the computer?07:18
Dr_Willissom1,  plug it in - and it 'should' show up as a usb drive.07:18
NaliothLaserLine: that's fine07:18
som1well07:18
som1it doesnt.07:18
NaliothLaserLine: let me know when you're online with it07:18
Dr_Willishit it with a hammer. :P07:18
som1unless im looking in the wrong place07:19
LaserLineNalioth - Thanks..07:19
som1where should it show up?07:19
CarlFKMadpilot - right, but you wouldn't have NTFS in the first place if you didnt' already own the MS product.  the part that is "captive ntfs" is free, open, all that07:19
Dr_Willissom1,  check the output of 'dmesg' as ya plug/unplug/plug it in.07:19
dabaR som1 are you running gnome?07:19
OohBattmananyone set up a DVICO dvb tv card before?07:19
som1lets see.07:19
MadpilotDr_Willis: you're from the "subtle" school of tech support, then? ;)07:19
Juhazsom1, at least some hp cameras have an option somewhere in the in-camera menus that control if it works as usb drive07:19
som1no, im with kubuntu.07:19
som1ohh..07:19
som1yeah, ive seen something.07:19
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  yep. :P if dmesg aint printing out info about it.. no amount of other twiddling with gnome will help07:19
sjgMadpilot: He must be "bofh" trained ...07:19
CarlFKdabaR - I am pretty much quoting the web page, which I tend to agree with.  others on the channel have a problem with it's use of "free"07:20
NaliothMadpilot: Dr_Willis is the king of 'dynamic performance testing'07:20
MadpilotCarlFK: right, but the whole thing isn't, and people who don't run Win might still be interested in NTFS-writing (can't imagine why, but...)07:20
Dr_Willisgotta love people that spend all day tryign to get their network working.. THEN realize they tripped over the cable. :P07:20
sjglol Nalioth...07:20
sjgLol Dr_Willis07:20
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som1here we go.07:20
dabaRCarlFK: its about the definition...it seems. dunno. You did not answer my question, tho.07:20
sjgThose people make me want to hit them in the head with a 2x407:20
som1:D07:20
Dr_WillisThen again, my wife was mad - shw couldent find the button to 'unlock' the Washer machine... she dident see the button with the fine print "Hold for 3 sec to unlock' :P07:20
MadpilotFirst Rule of Troubleshooting: Thou shalt check to see if it is plugged in... ;)07:21
dabaRsom1: good stuff.07:21
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CarlFKdabaR - A: no.07:21
Dr_Willisnetwork checking #2 rule.. if the dog has chewed on the cable.. replace it anyway.07:21
dabaRoki.07:21
Dr_Willisthat took me a week to find!07:21
sjgI hate it when dogs chew cables07:21
sjgMine did, my playstation 2 cables, my network cables, my flatpanel dvi cable07:22
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LaserLineNalioth, I'll /Msg you...07:22
sjgI was "NOT" happy.07:22
CarlFKMadpilot - I think you are thinking that the captive package includes the MS drivers.  "it" (what you get when you dl captive) doesn't, so "it" can be called free07:22
Dr_Willisi spryed all the cables with some "apple bitters" to keep them from chewing.. then sort of had it on my hands... then  was eating some food... and dident wash first... Ewwww07:22
Dr_Willisthat stuff will keep you from chewing your nails.07:22
dabaRCarlFK: can you modify it?07:22
ionrockhas anyone else had any issues with the mono and related packages in breezy?07:22
sjgDr_Willis: eww.07:23
Madpilotsjg: so you converted the dog into a dog-fur rug, right? ;)07:23
Dr_Willissjg,  but the stuff kept the dog from chewing.07:23
som1awesome.07:23
som1thanks07:23
sjgMadpilot: That dog is not allowed in the house anymore.07:23
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Burgundaviaionrock, what sort of issues07:23
Dr_WillisLol.07:23
Dr_Willispoor puppy wanted to play PS2!07:23
sjgI almost took him to the pound for that07:23
dabaRI like the almost part.07:24
sjgI was quite pissed.07:24
CarlFKdabaR - you get the source, the page mentions "Open Source" but I don't see an official licience07:24
MadpilotCarlFK: even if it doesn't include the drivers, it depends on them, and they're not free...07:24
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ionrockBurgundavia, everytime I try to run a mono app (ie tomboy, muine, etc) I get an error saying it can't find the Mono.Posix assembly07:24
Burgundaviaionrock, you updated to the latest mono07:24
CarlFKMadpilot - ext2 depens on things you have to buy to.  but ext2 is free, right?07:24
pixelmonkeywhy is libcairo1 "not available" in breezy?07:24
ionrockBurgundavia, I just have been doing apt-get upgrades in breezy07:25
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MadpilotCarlFK: hardware isn't the issuet, if you mean "you have to own a hard drive to be able to use EXT2"...07:25
Madpilot*issue07:25
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dabaR even if you buy a copy of linux, its still free, that stands.07:26
LaserLineNalioth, Loading the LIVE CD - I /MSG you....07:26
dabaRcan you guys go to #ubuntu-offtopic?07:26
MadpilotCarlFK: http://www.debian.org/intro/free07:27
CarlFKMadpilot - find me something that sugests that depandancy on non free drivers voids the OSness of it.07:27
MadpilotCarlFK: read the URL I just posted...07:27
Burgundaviaionrock, what version are you running?07:27
CarlFKMadpilot - like "While free software is not totally free of constraints" or is there something that supports your point?07:28
ionrockBurgundavia, mono? 1.1.8.207:28
Burgundaviaionrock, -1ubuntu4?07:28
MadpilotCarlFK: the "free to develop" part, and "free to copy"07:29
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CarlFKright, right.  so captive is free.  glad we can agree.07:29
ionrockBurgundavia, not sure what you mean... I just did an upgrade to the latest breezy if that is what you mean07:29
Burgundaviaionrock, the mono version should be 1.1.8.2-1ubuntu407:29
MadpilotCarlFK: let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue, OK?07:29
ionrockBurgundavia, ah, the package... let me double check that07:30
CarlFKhow bout we drop it. I dont' really care.07:30
tritiummove it to off-topic guys07:30
ionrockBurgundavia, yeah that is what it is07:30
dabaR2 the ' is used to show where the letters are missing...so like, don't if anyone cares.07:30
ionrock1.1.8.2-1ubuntu407:30
CarlFKna, if anyone wants ntfs stuff, they can figure it out.  I have no more to add.07:30
LaserLineNalioth I'm Online07:31
NaliothLaserLine: apt-get install smartmontools07:31
CarlFKfor the flip side that almost nulls the whoe issue: http://www.fs-driver.org07:31
LaserLineNalioth, from the live CD terminal in Gnome ?07:32
LaserLineNalioth That should be with sudo, right ?07:32
CarlFKcours I suppose that requries windows too, so maybe it is the same.  again, I don't care.07:32
NaliothLaserLine: yes, all correct07:32
dabaRCarlFK: good link.07:32
LaserLine"couldn't find package"07:33
CarlFKtx.  I havn't tired it yet, so don't take it as an indorsement07:33
MadpilotCarlFK: #ubuntu-offtopic - you're missing a couple of details that're important...07:33
LaserLineNalioth "couldn't find package"07:33
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CarlFKMadpilot "07:33
intelikeywhere is the headquarters of debian ?    what geographical local ?07:33
CarlFKMadpilot "I" dont' care.  if anyone does care, they can go get them07:33
Naliothlaserline enable all the repos07:33
LaserLineNalioth Got it :D07:34
LaserLineNalioth needet to apt-get update.07:34
LaserLineNalioth (didn't need to enable all the repos, it's in MAIN)07:34
LaserLineNalioth What to do now ?07:34
NaliothLaserLine: run (from a terminal) "smartctl"07:35
Carpe_LibertatemIs there anyone to make a transparent terminal window not display the background image if a window is between it and the desktop?07:35
NaliothLaserLine: paste the output to a pastebin in the /topic07:35
Carpe_Libertatemanyone = anyway07:35
LaserLineit requires a device name... it shoud be /dev/hda ?07:35
NaliothLaserLine: yes07:36
LaserLineNalioth nothing happend - I ran "smartctl /dev/hda"07:36
Carpe_LibertatemIs there anyway to make a transparent terminal window not display the background image if a window is between it and the desktop?07:37
Carpe_Libertatem:p07:37
NaliothLaserLine: nothing happned at all?07:37
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dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: you know you are really asking whether it is possible to display the window in between, right?07:38
LaserLineNalioth now I wrote smartctl /dev/hda -a07:38
LaserLineNalioth and got output07:38
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Carpe_LibertatemdabaR: Yeah.07:39
NaliothLaserLine: paste it and show us the link07:39
Carpe_LibertatemdabaR: is it?07:39
pablo928I just downloaded the latest upgrades for Breezy and now Firefox crashes as soon as it opens.07:39
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: I believe not.07:39
geeksauceback with another question...every time i run rhthymbox while my ipod is connected, it immediately crashes.  what could be the problem?07:39
LaserLinehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/180907:40
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fr500hi07:41
fr500has anyone succefully compiled bmpx?07:41
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CarlFKrats.  how come xorg.conf has 1024, but prefs/screen res only has 640 and 800?  (and ctrl alt + only flipes between those two)07:42
Madpilot!fixres07:42
ubotu[fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:42
NaliothLaserLine: your HD is fuX0rd07:42
MadpilotCarlFK: see above ^^^07:42
Dr_WillisCarlFK,  could be the monitor settings are to blame. not the vid card settings.07:42
dabaRBROKEN_LADDER: you better have something else to follow up on that.07:42
LaserLineNalioth What ?07:43
LaserLineNalioth How do you know that ?07:43
NaliothLaserLine: did you not read what the thing output?07:43
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: cite and/or source?07:43
NaliothLaserLine: the word "Failing" mean anything?07:43
CarlFKDr_Willis - do laptop lcd's have monitor settings?07:43
LaserLineNalioth, I read... I don't understand all...07:43
LaserLineNalioth It's only on "Load_Cycle_Count"07:43
Dr_WillisCarlFK,  they are special. :P    but hmm.. this a wide screen lcd?07:44
NaliothLaserLine: the program you ran talks to the HD's onboard processor07:44
NaliothLaserLine: the onboard processor keeps tabs on the 'health' of the HD07:44
CarlFKnope.  P2-266, 1024x76807:44
NaliothLaserLine: your HD is "failing_now"07:44
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NaliothLaserLine: as has been pointed out, you have hardware trouble07:45
geeksauceit says "the application 'rhthymbox' has quit unexpectedly" and gives me the option to restart the app, close, or inform developers07:45
CarlFKDr_Willis - I am booting the ubuntu live CD.  the box has FC2 on it, and that runs at 102407:45
Dr_Willishttp://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl  - is handy for my needs. you could copy the working X config over. and compare the 207:45
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CarlFKI am tempted to just cp xorg.conf and restart X.07:45
CarlFKwill ctrl-alt-bs restart X on the live CD?07:46
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LaserLineNalioth, But only in the "Load_Cycle_Count"... (what that means?)07:46
dabaRCarlFK: ya.07:47
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LaserLineNalioth If I test it ? with -t long or short or offline....?07:48
NaliothLaserLine: a hard drive is a precision instrument. if i got this on a production machine, i'd back up the data and buy a new HD07:48
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LaserLineNalioth It says the the Overall helth passed....07:50
NaliothLaserLine: do as you wish. but hardware ill health WAS confirmed07:52
LaserLineNalioth Ok... (2.5" HD are kinda expensive... already put 250$ for the laptop :( )07:52
sjgWhat speed laptop?07:53
NaliothLaserLine: it aint the cost of the drive, it's the cost of labor to put it in07:53
MadpilotLaserLine: if you only paid $250 for the lappy, getting a new HD still makes it a fairly cheap laptop!07:53
Carpe_LibertatemWhen the next version of Ubuntu comes out, how would I upgrade?07:53
sjgLaptop drives are not too bad, My main computer is a laptop and I have 2 hdd's for it, One with win xp, the one it came with and another 60gb laptop drive for linux07:53
LaserLineNalioth no no no... I paid 250$ to get the battery fixed and new ram...07:53
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LaserLineNalioth This was supposed to be my laptop for school (starting university)07:54
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: supposedly there'll be a big "Upgrade Now" button, like the red icons for regular updates that we already get...07:54
dabaRCarpe_Libertatem: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy, and dont do it now, if you like to use your computer.07:54
dabaRMadpilot: really?07:54
HmmmmLaserLine, where did u pick up the laptop? i am lookin for a cheap one myself07:54
dabaRthat dont sound right.07:54
NaliothLaserLine: what part of the country do you live in?07:55
LaserLineNalioth It was my dad's.. It is 1.7KG with the battery (I live in Israel)07:55
NaliothLaserLine: then go to your local electronics outlet and get another 20gb HD for it07:56
MadpilotdabaR: that's what I heard, but can't remember even who told me...07:56
shadeofgreyokay guys.  im finally fed up with openoffice.  whats the best alternative?07:56
sjgshadeofgrey: vim07:57
sjg:P07:57
LaserLineI hope i'll find one cheap (all are 80GB)07:57
Madpilotshadeofgrey: Koffice?07:57
BurgundaviaMadpilot, that will not make breezy07:57
tristanmikeshadeofgrey, what's wrong with OO.o?07:57
dabaRMadpilot: why it dont sound right to me, is cause that upgrade button pulls from the sources.list, which will still have hoary, and thus not know about the new packages in breezy...07:57
MadpilotBurgundavia: the fancy instant-upgrade thing? oh well...07:57
shadeofgreytrisstan:  its slow, very buggy, and they're taking forever with 2.007:57
BurgundaviaMadpilot, I think so07:57
shadeofgreyit crashes on me all the time...07:58
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shadeofgreyand this is linux...  screw crashes07:58
tristanmikeshadeofgrey, too bad, I've never had a problem07:58
shadeofgreyif i wanted that shit id go back to windows and use office07:58
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sjglol07:58
shadeofgreytristan:  have you ever tried writing 400 page novels with it?07:58
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shadeofgreyive got 2 gigs of ram and it still chokes07:59
tristanmikeshadeofgrey, no, but I haven't with Word either07:59
shadeofgreythats unacceptyable07:59
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tristanmikehope you have a spell check, lol07:59
HmmmmLaserLine, check this out for HDD: http://clickserve.cc-dt.com/link/click?lid=41000000000558655&redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.compusa.com%2Fproducts%2Fproduct_info.asp%3F%26ref%3Dcj%26pfp%3Dcj%26product_code%3D31619607:59
Xanthus7Hello is there anything in ubuntu for twain drivers for a scanner07:59
BurgundaviaXandriX, sane should work08:00
LaserLineNalioth If the laptop's harddrive is Toshiba MK-1016GAP, What kind of drive should I get ?08:00
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Xanthus7ok08:00
Dr_Willisall scanners use the "SANE" scaning tools   may want to check the SANE homepage for details on your speficic scanner.08:00
geeksauceima try and compile and install the latest build.  what is a good c compiler to download?08:00
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LaserLineIt's for a Fujitsu-Siemens S-4546 laptop (P3-600, 256MB RAM Intel440MX Chipset)08:00
dabaRgeeksauce: sudo aptitude install build-essential.08:01
dabaRthen gcc08:01
geeksaucegcc?  you're talkin to a noob here...08:01
aftertafshadeofgrey:  i find the beta version is quite stable already...08:01
pablo928I made a incorrect statement earlier. I said that my browser crashes as soon as it opens. Actually that's because the homepage is set to yahoo. I can accesws any other page without problems, but the browser crashes as soon as I go to a Yahoo page.08:01
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fr500shadeofgrey, abbiword? (haven't tested it)08:01
dabaRgcc dabar.c08:01
aftertafpablo928:  use google ;)08:01
fr500is 00.o2 faster?08:02
dabaRgeeksauce: you can leave out teh noob parrt next time.08:02
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Madpilotpablo928: yahoo is evil08:02
aftertaflooool Madpilot :)08:02
pablo928aftertaf- I've used Yahoo as my homepage for years.08:02
LaserLineIt's this drive : http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk1016.htm08:02
dabaRthat BROKEN_LADDER dude was weird with his paste.08:02
aftertaftrue, but google does seem intent on world domination too... secret buyout by M$ maybe ;)08:02
geeksaucegotcha08:02
aftertafpablo928:  only messing ;)08:03
Dr_WillisThat would be amusing.08:03
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pablo928aftertaf- Doesn't yahoo like firefox. Or is it the other way around?08:03
aftertafnever tried, pablo928, it is odd though...08:03
sjgDr_Willis: GoogleLinux lol08:03
djurI can't figure out how to fix it.08:03
Madpilotpablo928: which URL crashed FF?08:03
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pablo928I even have the Yahoo toolbar installed on firefox.08:03
aftertafcan you try konqueror, or nautilus... just to test.?08:04
Dr_Willissjg,  is "GooLinux" better? :P isent that taken allready?08:04
Dr_Willislol08:04
KornFlamezhello, i'm pretty new to linux, this may seem a simple problem but i would appreciate all your help ;  here it goes i installed a video player xine, according to ubuntuguide.org and now the default installed totom player doesn't start up anymore it gives the following error totem cannot be executed source occupied or not available ??08:04
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Madpilot!tell KornFlamez about ubuntuguide08:04
pablo928 Madpilot- Any Yahoo page.....let me try yahoo.com08:04
brownie17!tell brownie17 about cle08:04
dabaRKornFlamez: tell us about whether esd is running.08:04
brownie17!tell brownie17 about cli08:04
dabaRand KornFlamez tell us about whether you use gnome.08:05
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sjgDr_Willis: lol, I think im just too taken with ubuntu, I switched from Redhat which i started with back around the 5.2 era to debian for a short time, then started using ubuntu around warty initial release and have been here ever since.08:05
djurwhat about installing the "how to turn on numlock on gnome startup?" would cause a USB keyboard to stop working.  I even removed the line I added to /etc/x11/gdm/init/default   and it still isn't working.08:05
fr500KornFlamez, i would get totem-xine08:05
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KornFlamezi use gnome yes, i got cd mailed to my frontdoor08:05
NaliothLaserLine: you get sorted?08:05
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AvatarofVirgoI installed Ubuntu as a dual boot next to SUSE.  I'm on SUSE right now because I can't get my external serial modem to work with Ubuntu.  Can some one help me?08:05
Madpilotpablo928: www.yahoo.com just loaded fine for me, in both Opera & FF08:06
KornFlamezmadpilot is there something i have to know about ubuntuguide ( i know it says unofficial at the top of page ) but besides that?08:06
pablo928Madpilot- Any Yahoo page including Yahoo.com is crashing my browser.08:06
fr500pablo928, same for me08:06
brownie17djur: that sounds really helpful actually, i wish mine would start on, but is it likely that it would cause those problems with every keyboard, or is your case an individual08:06
fr500KornFlamez, u got me?08:06
LaserLineNalioth sorted ?08:06
aftertafpablo928:  try just plain mozilla, see if same happens... maybe remove/purge then reinstall ? :/08:07
KornFlamezcan i just apt-get that?08:07
fr500yws08:07
Madpilotbrownie17: I've got numlockx running on this PS/2 keyboard, and it works just fine08:07
benplautwhy do so many *nx users despise and take offense at Nano/Pico?08:07
fr500**yes08:07
geeksaucedabaR: i am still unclear about what i am supposed to do with gcc dabar.c08:07
NaliothLaserLine: decide what you are gonna do?08:07
Madpilotbenplaut: because they aren't as cool/complicated as emacs or vi?08:07
apokryphosbenplaut: they do? Haven't noticed it. Many old-school users consider nano pseudo-vim08:07
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dabaRgeeksauce: what are you trying to compile?08:07
sjgmmmm vi ....08:08
sjgI <3 vi08:08
pablo928) Madpilot- it worked just fine on this box also until I installed the latest Breezy upgrades.08:08
apokryphosI seriously doubt users are more productive on vi[m]  than I am on Kate or Kwrite.08:08
Madpilotpablo928: ah, OK. still using Hoary here08:08
fr500apokryphos, or even nano08:08
geeksaucedabar: rhthymbox 0.9.008:08
sjgapokryphos: I think its just a personal preference.08:08
dabaRgeeksauce: why, and where did you get the source?08:09
sjgapokryphos: I use vi and/or abiword 99% of the time08:09
pablo928) Madpilot- I am too on another box. This one is just to play with.08:09
apokryphossjg: I still can't help but think users are with vi[m]  to specifically stay old-school, and not accepting full GUI.08:09
apokryphossjg: not all, of course.08:09
LaserLineNalioth - Trying to install with ReiserFS (i;m going the HARD WAY!) if it'll crash i'll look for a new hardrive, could you help me out with the hardrive choise ? I have this drive: http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk1016.htm and found a toshiba drive for cheap (under 100$) here: http://www.toshiba-europe.com/storage/products/otherdocs/Brochures/SDDBrochure_02-2005.pdf08:09
benplautapokryphos, what do you consider Emacs users?08:09
Madpilotapokryphos: interesting theory...08:09
sjgemacs, ...eww08:10
sjgI absolutely abhor emacs08:10
LaserLineNalioth the MK4032GAX08:10
sjgId rather use ms office than emacs08:10
apokryphosbenplaut: I don't really use it; I don't generally use vi much either08:10
dabaRok, this is off topic... sjg08:10
geeksaucebecause 0.8.8 crashes when i have my ipod connected; got the source from http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/download.html08:10
LaserLineNalioth, I'm don't really know what HD this laptop would take (today it's 4200RPM, with 1MB Buffer 9.5MM)08:10
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dabaRgeeksauce: is there compilation instructions? did you install build-essential?08:11
djurhow would I list drives available to be mounted?08:11
NaliothLaserLine: any 2.5" you find will do, i'm sure08:11
dabaRdjur: how many hard disks do you have?08:11
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dabaRsudo fdisk -l djur08:11
geeksaucedabar: i installed build-essential, but i am not sure what you meant by gcc dabar.c08:11
pablo928) Madpilot-just tried google.com and it crashed too, but MSN.com works. It this a plot?08:12
KornFlamezthx alot that solved it08:12
dabaRgeeksauce: it was an example, and a wrong one to that.08:12
sjgpablo928: Thats realllllllly weird08:12
dabaRgeeksauce: did you untar the source?08:12
geeksauceyeah08:12
djurhm..08:12
djurcan you mount a drive from the live system?08:12
LaserLinedarn, I need to buy an LCD Screen, Speakers and now a Hard-drive !?! (the LCD and speakers are for my desktop - moving out)08:12
aftertafbreezy bug?08:13
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djursays it doesn't exist in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:13
aftertafdoes it just die?08:13
aftertafpablo928:  ?08:13
pablo928 sjg:I know. I'm still laughing about it. But I shouldn't be. I also use Yahoo mail.08:13
sjgLaserLine: college is expensive, buy less beer :p08:13
aftertaf!tell djur about mount08:13
EpixHey. Can anyone recomend some free console-only games? I would expecally like a multiplayer one. Any suggestions?08:13
djursince that's the live systems fstab and mtab..  I don't think I can do anything about it...08:13
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sjgpablo928: I just hit yahoo and a ton of other sites no issues here08:13
sjgpablo928: Just curious what release are you on and have you upgraded your browser ?08:13
aftertafdjur:  with just the mount command, maybe, but not automount...08:14
LaserLineLoL08:14
tristanmikewhat do you mean by "console" Epix?08:14
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LaserLineNalioth, Should I go for 4200 or 5400 ? (now it's 4200)08:14
Epixtristanmike: as in, not in X08:14
LaserLineNalioth - It's kind of an old laptop...08:14
pablo928 sjg:On my hoary box it works fine too. It's just on this breezy box after I loaded the latest upgrades a few minutes ago.08:14
tristanmikeahhh08:14
sjgLaserLine: Id get  a 5400 or if you can afford it a 720008:15
sjgLaserLine: the 7200 rpm drives are slightly expensive.08:15
_mindspinhi, I have a call to a .sh script in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh which mounts samba shares automatically on boot, I get a"permission denied", the script is owned by root. anny idea how to make it work on boot?08:15
LaserLineok...08:15
sjgpablo928: im on breezy currently, with a freshly upgraded system and it works perfect.08:15
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NaliothLaserLine: whatever is cheaper, keep in mind the heat issues08:15
dabaRgeeksauce: do you have a terminal open in the folder that you untared to?08:15
CarlFK_mindspin - why not put them in fstab?08:15
aftertaf_mindspin:  put it elsewhere and make a sym link in /etc/init.d08:15
Naliothsjg: this is for a laptop08:15
_mindspinit does not work from fstab08:16
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sjgNalioth, my laptop is using a hitachi 2.5 inch 60gb 7200 rpm drive /shrug08:16
geeksaucedabaR: yes08:16
dabaR./configure08:16
djurokay.. so I screwed up my system and can't use my USB keyboard....  I can't mount the drive from the live system...  how can I fix this?  is there anything remotely like a recovery feature (beside the one in the boot menu)?08:16
apokryphos_mindspin: did you chmod it?08:16
CarlFK_mindspin - um, mine do.  whats wrong with yours ?08:16
_mindspinyes its chmodded08:16
LaserLineNAlioth... Hope it won't crash again ... (Or I  will have to buy a new drive)08:16
geeksaucedabar: i compiled it per the instructions in the readme, and got some errors...08:17
apokryphos_mindspin: a symlink as suggested will of course work, though.08:17
sjgLaserLine: I suggest backing up anything important.08:17
dabaR!compiling08:17
_mindspinCarlFK could you post it somewhere?,08:17
dabaR!compiling08:17
NaliothLaserLine: it is not a "if" it is a "when"08:17
apokryphosdabaR: too long for here, I think.08:17
Naliothdabar write one08:17
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NaliothdabaR: use /msg08:17
dabaRya, thanks.08:18
Naliothsjg: LaserLine posted his S.M.A.R.T report. his HD is failing08:18
_mindspinapokryphos: I'll have a try with the symlink08:18
sjgNalioth, yeah i read it08:18
pablo928 sjg- I can't imagine what caused my problem. Maybe I need to reinstall firefox.08:18
geeksaucedabaR: checking for hal >= 0.2.92 hal < 0.5 gnome-vfs-2.0 >= 2.7.4... Package hal was not found in the pkg-config search path.08:18
geeksaucePerhaps you should add the directory containing `hal.pc'08:18
geeksauceto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable08:18
sjgNalioth, Id be removing that drive asafp08:18
CarlFK_mindspin //cnt496/d      /mnt/smb/cnt496/d        smbfs  username=carl,password=xyz,noauto 0 008:18
apokryphosgeeksauce: please don't paste in here.08:18
CarlFKthat is the line from fstab08:18
geeksaucemy bad08:18
sjgpablo928: remove, purge, reinstall firefox might fix it :P08:18
LaserLineNalioth...nothing is important on it now :D08:19
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_mindspinCarlFK: thats exactly (beside path and user;-) what I had in fstab08:19
aftertaflike i said....08:19
sjgLaserLine: Till you get a new drive, be religious about backing it up :P08:19
apokryphosgeeksauce: try exporting the variable then and recompile08:19
pablo928 sjg- the removal and reinstall is easy, but how do I purge?08:19
NaliothLaserLine: and dont put anything important on it08:19
LaserLineAtleast I studied linux on it.......... I like it D08:19
CarlFK_mindspin - what about the "noauto" ?08:19
djurI'm trying to add hda1 to my fstab file...   what is the syntax?08:19
LaserLineNalioth should I install the Smart Deamon on the laptop ?08:20
dabaRnight08:20
aftertafdjur:  did you check the link?08:20
apokryphosdjur: well, what is it you're mounting?08:20
djurmy hard drive08:20
geeksauceapokryphos: exporting the variable?08:20
_mindspinI had it in, no work replaced it and added gid and uid for getting write access08:20
NaliothLaserLine: it's only gonna count down the inevitable08:20
apokryphosdjur: obviously. What filetype, and what do you plan the mountpoint being08:20
aftertaflol apokryphos :)08:20
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damonehi everyone!08:21
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apokryphosgeeksauce: yes, as it says. export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pgkconfig/08:21
damonei really need help with ubuntu install08:21
NoUsedamone what kind of problem are you having?08:21
damoneit loops the user password step08:21
djuruhm...  it's  ffa3 or something like that.. the default file system...  and /dev/hda1   *           1         753     6048441   83  Linux08:21
djuris what I get from fdisk -l08:21
aftertaferf...08:21
NoUsedamone is this a downloaded CD?08:21
damoneyes i downloaded the cd08:22
damonethe install works ok till user pass step08:22
dabaRgeeksauce: I strongly suggest you read compilation instructions on the site if there are any.08:22
NoUsedamone did you you use bittorrent or just the web?08:22
damonethe web08:22
aftertafand.... are you actually putting in a password (sorry for the silly question)08:23
Naliothdamone: did you md5 checksum your iso image b4 you burnt it?08:23
apokryphosdjur: ok.... /dev/hda1       /mount/point           ext3    defaults        0       208:23
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apokryphosdjur: I take it it's ext3...08:23
aftertafapokryphos:  83 ;)08:23
djuryeah I think that's it :)08:23
damoneyes i input passwords but the screens dosnt show anything, not even *s08:23
apokryphosaftertaf: ?08:24
aftertafdamone:  thats normal.08:24
dabaRwhat is this supposed to mean? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181008:24
dabaRI get it on xine too.08:24
aftertafapokryphos:  83 = fs type, right?08:24
NoUsedamone did you md5 checksum the image?08:24
apokryphosaftertaf: 83 = ext3, yes.08:25
damoneactually im installing in spanish language... but i dont think thats the prob08:25
brownie17madpilot: i'm having a bit of trouble08:25
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damonenope, i didnt check, but im sure its working ok08:25
NoUsedamone obviously its not08:25
damonewell yes08:25
damonebut i guess mn08:25
brownie17madpilot: I put a shortcut to a program i have into the applications directory, and it for some reason loses its cutom icon as soon as i do08:25
geeksauceapokryphos: did that, recompiled...same error, among a few other similar ones08:25
damonemaybe its something else08:26
apokryphosgeeksauce: what is it you're compiling?08:26
geeksauceapokryphos: rhthymboc 0.9.008:26
NoUsedamone do you have the iso file handy?08:26
CarlFKanyone know the growisofs command to erase and burn an image to a CD-RW?08:26
apokryphosgeeksauce: are you specifying the gnome prefix on configure, whatever it is...08:27
apokryphosgeeksauce: try using build-dep, too.08:27
Madpilotbrownie17: using .desktop files?08:27
brownie17madpilot: yes08:27
brownie17madpilot:08:27
damonewow.... i think i messed up the partitions, because i did a default install and now it just worked ok08:27
geeksauceapokryphos: i'm not sure what the gnome prefix is08:27
NoUsedamone cool08:27
LaserLineGuys, I silly GMAIL Question... How do I disable the option it adds the original message to the replied one (I'm reading the help, and can't find a thing)08:27
damonei was trying to make a fat 32 partion to transfer files from windows08:28
Naliothgeeksauce: pardon me, but what are you trying?08:28
damonebut i think i messed up08:28
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Madpilotbrownie17: hmmm, I've used one and built a 2nd one, and they just worked - see wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for a sample .desktop file...08:28
brownie17laserline: Gmail kicks hotmails behind any day08:28
apokryphosgeeksauce: sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox08:28
brownie17madpilot: i have done others that worked fine, but this one won't08:28
LaserLinebrownie17 I know, but I don't find that option I asked about.......08:28
apokryphosgeeksauce: I think you can probably use /usr/local08:28
damoneanyway08:29
geeksauceNalioth: ./configure --enable-ipod08:29
Madpilotbrownie17: pastebin it, somebody can probably pick it apart08:29
Madpilot!pastebin08:29
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:29
damonehow i can make a fat32 partition on ubuntu??08:29
Naliothgeeksauce: do what apokryphos said about build-dep08:29
carthik!fat3208:29
ubotusomebody said fat32 was http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab08:29
Naliothgeeksauce: then try it again08:29
Naliothdamone: use qtparted08:29
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Naliothcarthik: no, that's for mounting an existing fat32 partition08:30
carthikdamone, it is one of the options you can choose when you create the partitions.. man mkfs for details08:30
carthikNalioth, yeah, i just wanted to know what !fat32 would pull up08:30
Naliothcarthik: you can /msg the bot and keep channel flotsam down08:30
brownie17laserline: it is still in BETA testing stages, maybe when the official release comes out it will be more customisable08:31
geeksauceapokryphos: thanks, i'm giving that a shot now08:31
brownie17madpilot: ok08:31
damonethanx08:31
carthikNalioth, thanks08:31
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damoneis there any introduction on how to use apt-get???08:33
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damoneim such a n00b to linux08:33
damonelol08:33
NoUsedamone use synaptic08:33
dabaRoooh...I borked my X, I installed fluxbox, and now gdm restarts all the time when I get to it, like, just keeps flashing...08:33
geneo93man apt-get08:33
Naliothdamone: synaptic is the easiest way08:33
Madpilot!tell damone about synaptic08:33
apokryphosdamone: check the wiki08:34
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damonethanx08:34
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brownie17http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1811    cane somebody please take a look at this pastebin and tell me whats wrong?08:35
geeksauceapokryphos: i'm still getting the same errors08:35
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konra`hey, anyone know how to let windows computers access your CUPS printer through samba?08:35
apokryphosgeeksauce: did you do both of those things? Can you pastebin the full output?08:35
Naliothgeeksauce: what errors are those?08:35
_mindspinok the symlink didn#t work /no connection" i guess I#ll have to call it alittle later....08:35
apokryphosgeeksauce: s/output/error output08:35
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!lilo:*! Earthlink has set up a database site to help connect Hurricane Katrina victims with friends and relatives.... http://hurricane.earthlink.net/ .... please pass that around to anyone who might need to know08:36
brownie17http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1811    cane somebody please take a look at this pastebin and tell me whats wrong?08:36
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Madpilotkonra`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba - seems to have at least most of the info you need08:36
brownie17'08:37
apokryphosgeeksauce: do you have a proper pkgconfig directory? Did you make sure you specified it exact on the export?08:37
brownie17'08:37
Nalioth!tell brownie17 about smeg08:37
brownie17http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1811    cane somebody please take a look at this pastebin and tell me whats wrong?08:37
Naliothbrownie17: read what the bot send you08:37
Naliothbrownie17: let the tool do the work08:37
brownie17nalioth: I cannot install smeg from synpatic due to an error that no-one seems to know how to resolve08:37
apokryphosbrownie17: and don't needlessly repeat :P08:37
Naliothbrownie17: not from repos, use the "installsmeg" script08:37
geeksauceapokryphos: i just copied and pasted from the line you supplied08:38
brownie17apokryphos: sorry08:38
brownie17nalioth: installsmeg script?08:38
brownie17sudo apt-get installsmeg?08:38
apokryphosgeeksauce: don't; check that it exists08:38
Naliothbrownie17: read what ubotu sent you, go to the URL and get the script08:38
geeksauceapokryphos: k hold on a sec08:38
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apokryphosgeeksauce: should be /usr/lib/pkgconfig08:39
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geeksauceapokryphos: yep, it exists08:39
brownie17nalioth: i have the script, how do i use it?08:40
apokryphosgeeksauce: make sure you export the variable properly, then.08:40
geeksauceapokryphos: how do i do that?08:40
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apokryphosgeeksauce: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig/08:40
djurI get this error when trying to remove a package I installed using apt-get:  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:40
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pundaihi08:40
djurDoes anyone know what could be using that?08:40
geeksauceapokryphos: yeah i did that already08:41
pundaii cant get my wireless set up with ubuntu08:41
apokryphosgeeksauce: and in the same terminal re-run the configure..making sure you specify the prefix. If you get errors, pastebin then.08:41
pundaii think ipv6 is enabled08:41
NoUsebrownie17 give the file executable permssions and then run it08:41
apokryphosgeeksauce: do that *exact* export.08:41
Naliothdjur: close all instances of apt or dpkg you have running08:41
brownie17nouse: ok, if i can08:41
CaiN_SAdjur, you need to use root :)08:41
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NoUsedjur you have another instance of apt or synatpic running08:41
Naliothdjur: or use sudo when you issue the command08:41
geeksauceapokryphos: how do i specify the prefix?08:41
apokryphosgeeksauce: erm, you didn't specify it before? :)08:41
dreamiepundai is sean connery08:41
apokryphosgeeksauce: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local08:41
omp342does anyone know an estimate of when breezy is coming out?08:41
pundaidreamie i am08:42
NoUseomp342 october 1508:42
CaiN_SAomp342, i would also like to know08:42
geneo93oct08:42
dreamiehow old are you sean connery?08:42
!lilo:*! <dangle> hey mate, just wondering if you wouldn't mind spamming the red cross Katrina collection as well? <dangle> https://secure2.convio.net/arc/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_DONATION_OPTIONS&CAMPAIGN_ID=116108:42
omp342NoUse: thanks :)08:42
pundaidreamie i forget08:42
Dr_Willis"when its done" :P08:42
pundaibut i still get chicks08:42
omp342i'll probably switch from gentoo to ubuntu when breezy comes out08:42
Naliothapokryphos: is --prefix=/usr/local necessary? most source defaults to that08:42
dreamiehaha pundai08:42
djurI used sudo when I issued the command08:42
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pundaibut seriously08:42
djurI forget how to list open processes...08:42
dreamieis everyone getting a message from lilo?08:42
pundaihow the hell do i set up my wifi08:42
djurwhat was it again?08:42
dreamie!lilo:*!?08:42
ERMACUbuntu.com lets you order their cd in bundles, exactly how many will they allow you to order. I work for a college, and passing this out would be a great idea.08:42
pundaiand ensure ipv6 is disabled08:42
hermiteveryone always gets messages from lilo08:43
apokryphosNalioth: by default you should specify the prefix, when compiling programs, yes.08:43
Madpilotdjur: top?08:43
geneo93not i08:43
brownie17nalioth: you are a genius08:43
geeksauceapokryphos: it says to add --enable-ipod   do i put that before or after the prefix?08:43
apokryphosgeeksauce: either08:43
CaiN_SAERMAC, prolly as much as you want, just say somewhere i want TONS for giving away at college08:43
NoUsedjur I would do 'ps aux | grep dpkg' or 'ps aux | grep apt'08:43
LaserLinebrownie17 so I guess there is no way of changing this Gmail behaviour ?08:43
CaiN_SAthen they wont have a problem08:43
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apokryphosdjur: did you close a terminal while apt/dpkg was running?08:44
djurokay how do I exit top?08:44
NoUsedjur q08:44
brownie17laserline: not that i know of08:44
ERMAChow long as this distro been out? I mean heck, I never heard of it before, until about 3 weeks ago08:44
djurmy live environment kinda crashed so I have only one terminal left :(08:44
carthikERMAC 2004 october08:45
BurgundaviaERMAC, we are nearing our 3rd 6-month release08:45
brownie17nalioth: when i go to run smeg, it has that "starting SMEG" in the panel, but then it just never opens08:45
pundaiok so any ideas how to trouble shoot the stupid wifi08:45
pundaiand make sure ipv6 is not on08:45
Naliothbrownie17: hmmm08:45
pundaimy router doesnt support it08:45
geeksauceapokryphos:  tried it again, this time with prefix, but same story08:45
ERMACdamn, nice stuff done to it.  Maybe this will wake Microsuck up, and get them to actual care about their users, instead of their wallets.08:45
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Kleggasis there any terminal applikation similiar to firestarter?08:45
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NoUse!wifi08:46
ubotusomebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:46
apokryphosgeeksauce: then please pastebin the output08:46
pefmorning08:46
aftertafmorning ;)08:46
NaliothKleggas: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml08:46
carthikpef: depends on where you are from, really08:46
pundaiubotu ok this room is very noisy so i didnt see it thanks08:46
ubotupundai: okay08:46
aftertafERMAC:  :)08:46
geeksauceapokryphos:  how do i pastebin?08:46
bob2ERMAC: ubuntu began in april or so 200408:46
apokryphosubotu: tell geeksauce about pastebin08:46
pundaierr im talking to a bot08:46
geeksauceapokryphos: and last time i  got told not to paste in here...should i pm you?08:47
pefcarthik: difficult to ask to all people here ;)08:47
ERMACWho created this distro anyway?08:47
brownie17!tell geeksauce about pastebin08:47
Myrtti!pastebin08:47
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:47
Dr_Willisspace aliens.08:47
apokryphosgeeksauce: you shouldn't paste in here, you should use a pastebin service. Ubotu just /msg you one08:47
aftertafpundai:  lol, you find it happens a lot!!08:47
carthikERMAC, http://www.ubuntu.com/08:47
NoUsepundai you just taught the bot something08:47
geeksauceapokryphos: k hang on a sec08:47
brownie17nalioth: no ideas?08:47
NoUse!tell pundai about ok this room08:47
apokryphosERMAC: Mark Shuttleworth08:47
pundaiNoUse haha08:48
NoUseubotu forget ok this room08:48
ubotuNoUse: i forgot ok this room08:48
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Naliothbrownie17: none at all08:48
NoUse!tell pundai about wifi08:48
robhusf/quit08:48
brownie17nalioth: i'll ask someone else08:48
bob2ask amaranth08:49
bob2he wrote it08:49
brownie17seveas: i installed smeg through the install script from their website, then when i went to open it, it showed the "starting smeg" bar in the panel, but it never opened smeg08:49
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geeksauceapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181208:50
rob^brownie17, why did you do that?08:50
geeksaucebrb08:51
brownie17rob^, do what? use the install script? becasue i got an error when i tried to use synaptic, no-one knew how to fix08:51
apokryphosgeeksauce: that's the end of the error message? Can you clarify that hal.pc is in /usr/lib/pkgconfig?08:51
rob^what was the error?08:51
brownie17rob^, someything about pythonxdg being 0.9< instead of 0.1-4 or something08:52
brownie17rob^ i can probably find the error again if you think you might be able to fix it08:53
Naliothgeeksauce: install "gnome-devel"08:53
brownie17rob^ in synaptic it says that my smeg package is broken08:53
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Deterministhow do i close a window in irssi?08:54
Deterministthis client can drive me mad sometimes08:54
Dr_Willis- /window close08:54
Dr_Willisi think08:54
rob^brownie17, have you added any repos to your sources.list?08:54
geeksauceapokryphos: aha! hal.pc isn't in there08:54
NaliothDeterminist: channel or pm?08:54
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bob2it's always /window close08:54
brownie17rob^ this is error: "  Depends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed"08:54
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Deterministguess i just found out08:54
apokryphosgeeksauce: ok, one sec.08:54
bob2brownie17: yay backports08:54
NaliothDeterminist: channels, you /part and PMs you /wc (window close)08:55
rob^bob2, thats what I was getting at..08:55
brownie17rob^, i think i have added them alll. i don't know, people are alwasy telling me to do that, and i think i have08:55
apokryphosgeeksauce: install libhal-dev08:55
DeterministNalioth: thanks, just figured that out08:55
brownie17bob2: what is backports?08:55
bob2brownie17: look in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:55
rob^!backports08:55
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports08:55
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rob^hmm08:55
brownie17rob^: how can i tell you if i have installed repositories08:55
bob2QA is something that happens to other people, it seems08:55
carthikbrownie17, by looking at the source.list files?08:55
alienacionhi all08:55
alienacioncan you help me???08:56
carthikno one will help alienacion - shhh!08:56
Deterministwould it be very wrong for me to grab a big heavy metallic object and beat to death the buncha construction workers giving me a headache from the floor upstairs???08:56
aftertafor looking in synaptic (same thing)08:56
aftertafalienacion:  what is your current woe?? :)08:56
alienacioni can't understand why cin and cout don't work08:56
geeksauceapokryphos:  "install- too few arguements"08:56
carthikalienacion, welcome, i was kidding... whats it about>?08:56
brownie17rob^: bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181308:56
bob2alienacion: you need to ask a question first...08:56
LaserLineGuys, What do you think about WinFS ? to what linux FS it resembles the most ?08:56
hermittime for stupid newbie question. I'm new to debian style systems. I just installed ubuntu and setup my apt sources and did some updating already. I want to upgrade firefox but when I do 'sudo apt-get upgrade firefox' i get: The following packages have been kept back:08:56
hermit  mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support08:56
hermitI get no explanation WHY they were kept back.08:56
hermitCan someone explain that to me?08:56
aftertafLaserLine:  LOOOL urban myth!!08:56
bob2winfs appears to be a complete waste of time08:57
alienacioni'm including iostream08:57
apokryphosgeeksauce: use synaptic08:57
bob2hermit: read the apt-get manpage08:57
alienacionin my c++ file08:57
carthikalienacion, apt-get install build-essentials perhaps?08:57
bob2hermit: 'sudo apt-get upgrade blah' doesn't mean anything08:57
geeksauceapokryphos: k hang on08:57
alienacionyes carthik08:57
LaserLineaftertaf, What do you mean ?08:57
hermitthe apt-get man page has not one occurence of the word 'kept'08:57
bob2hermit: 'sudo apt-get upgrade' is what you're actually running08:57
rob^brownie17, remove the last line08:57
bob2hermit: and you didn't read the bit where it explains what upgrade and dist-upgrade mean08:57
hermitoh08:57
aftertafLaserLine:  WinFS :)   sort of like "IE7 will be fully compliant" ;)08:58
brownie17rob^: do you want me to comment (#) it?08:58
rob^yes08:58
carthikalienacion, if you have installed it, then cross-check with some downloaded source - easiest way out...08:58
bob2brownie17: how do you not know the word "backport" when you've manually put it in /etc/apt/sources.list?08:58
rob^brownie17, then do: sudo apt-get update08:58
rob^brownie17, then: sudo apt-get upgrade08:58
geeksauceapokryphos: done08:58
carthikalienacion, in other words, get a simple C++ source from the web, and try compiling it,a nd using it...08:58
NoUseLaserLine taking into account how stable windows is and how fast MS SQL server is, the closest resemblance would probably be a hamster in a broken wheel08:58
apokryphosgeeksauce: now, re-do configure08:58
brownie17E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:58
brownie17E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:58
LaserLineLOL !!!08:59
aftertafloool NoUse :)08:59
bob2brownie17: yes, you have apt or dpkg running somewhere else...08:59
LaserLineNoUse, ROFLTMAO\08:59
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brownie17bob2: i got that sources thing off the internet, somone told me to download it08:59
brownie17bob@, how do i killall that process?08:59
alienacioncarthik, my prog simply print hello-world on stdout08:59
bob2brownie17: then don't do things you don't understand just because someone tells you to08:59
bob2brownie17: you don't killall anything08:59
aftertafbrownie17:  close synaptic...08:59
brownie17aftertef: ok09:00
bob2brownie17: you go and find it and close it properly09:00
LaserLineWindwos Asta-La-VISTA is kinda taking some *nix capabilities (terminal, permessions etc..)09:00
hermitSo what's the name of the tool I should be using to just upgrade a single package (and any deps it may require updated)?09:00
carthikalienacion, you are obviously doing soething wrong so get a similar program source from the web and try it out - if it works - compare sources...09:00
NoUseLaserLine they cancelled the terminal09:00
bob2hermit: sudo apt-get install blah09:00
aftertaf!tell hermit about apt09:00
LaserLineNoUse Cancelled ?09:00
brownie17E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)09:00
brownie17E: The list of sources could not be read.09:00
alienaciondon't work09:00
bob2brownie17: so, show us line 3309:00
alienacioni can't compile nothing09:00
NoUseLaserLine there were already 3 viruses/exploits for it09:00
brownie17bob2: count!?09:00
aftertafLaserLine:  asta la vista??? you mean LongWait?09:00
carthikalienacion, you cant compile is differnt from cout not working09:00
bob2brownie17: or use a non-shit text editor, which should show you that line with one command09:01
apokryphosbrownie17: enable line-count in your editor09:01
LaserLineNoUse I read that, but cannelled ? stupid microsoft...09:01
bob2brownie17: e.g. vim /etc/apt/sources.list, 33g09:01
alienacioni can't compile beacuse cout undeclared09:01
ERMACDudes, this is great, a great distro, and a hot babe to advertise ubuntu as well: http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ubuntu.jpg09:01
carthikalienacion, if you cant compile, you dont have the tools, fire up synaptic, search and install the pckages you need for ompiling whatever code it is...09:01
LaserLineaftertaf it's kind of Ironic that they call it vista.... "asta la vista, baby"09:01
bob2alienacion: your C++ code is broken09:01
bob2alienacion: go get a modern C++ book09:01
brownie17bob2: did what you said, it came up with just alot of blank space09:02
geeksauceapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181409:02
cafuegoor use C09:02
bob2alienacion: cout doesn't exist in modern C++; use "std::cout" or add a "using namespace std;" to the top of your source09:02
bob2brownie17: anyway, find line 33 however you know how09:02
LaserLinePPL, Wish me luck with ReiserFS.... Finished installing Ubuntu for the second time in 15 hours.09:02
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brownie17bob2: found the line!09:03
bob2I wouldn't be using reiserfs if you're going to say things like that09:03
carthikalienacion, all would have been easier had you tried what i said - search - download - try to compile...09:03
apokryphosgeeksauce: something's buggy with that pastebin. Hm.09:03
apokryphosgeeksauce: anyhow, if you say you have exported the variable then I'm not sure what's going on... I just configured it here and it's fine.09:03
cafuegobob2: He claims ext3 has died a few times and reiser is better now.09:03
bob2haha09:03
Carpe_LibertatemAre there any podcast managers available for Ubuntu?09:03
Naliothapokryphos: gnome-devel didnt help?09:03
brownie17bob2: line33: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/09:03
alienacionok now it work09:03
bob2everytime I hear "podcast", I twitch09:03
bob2brownie17: so delete it09:04
alienacionthanks to all very much09:04
cafuegobob2: you just jealous09:04
Carpe_Libertatembob2: Good for you. :-P09:04
brownie17bob2: comment (#) it?09:04
apokryphosNalioth: I take it he installed it... so apparently not.09:04
bob2brownie17: or delete it entirel09:04
cafuegopodcast!09:04
ERMACGuys: what are some ways to "edit" ubuntu? Like the coding, etc.09:04
bob2ERMAC: you need to be a lot more specific09:04
NaliothERMAC: with a fine text editor09:04
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bob2cafuego: I wish I'd thought of putting audio files on the intarweb first09:04
bob2then I could be famous like a blogger09:04
carthikCarpe_Libertatem, so what does a podcast manage do - manage mp3s on your hdd?09:05
apokryphosgeeksauce: can you also verify that you have libdbus-glib-1-1-dev?09:05
cafuegobob2: only if you'd done it using PUSH technology09:05
brownie17bob2: did sudo apt-get upgrade and it is now saying "reading package lists"09:05
apokryphosgeeksauce: can you also verify that you have libdbus-glib-1-dev09:05
bob2cafuego: and CHANNELS09:05
bob2brownie17: ok09:05
cafuegobob2: The big Leblogski is neet, though.09:05
brownie17bob2: done, with no errors, now try synaptic for SMEG?09:05
geeksauceapokryphos: hold09:05
ERMACsay I just wanna edit some of the stuff in ubuntu, I like to disect programs, kinda like for windows progs, I use Resource Hacker, etc. I like the just edit stuff, wording, etc, and just tweak with code, how would I do that in ubuntu09:05
cafuegobob2: http://www.jeffbridges.com/latestjul.html09:05
bob2brownie17: ok09:05
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem I user Ipodder09:05
aftertafvista, longwait, now Blackcomb....09:06
brownie17bob2: still got exactly the same error09:06
bob2ERMAC: er, this is a real OS. you just download the actual source of the program.09:06
aftertafWhen will they release Windows Desertstorm?09:06
Carpe_LibertatemThat's not in any of the repos.09:06
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem there aren't any managers in the repos09:06
NaliothERMAC: and look at it with a text editor of your choice09:06
ERMACnow say I edit something, how do I make it take affect in ubuntu?09:06
geeksauceapokryphos: nothing found under libdbus-glib-1-dev in synaptic09:06
apokryphosERMAC: save!09:06
bob2ERMAC: you've never programmed before, have you?09:07
NaliothNoUse: Carpe_Libertatem: gtkpod + rhythmbox09:07
ERMACyes, but does ubuntu need compiled afterwards, or are things different09:07
ERMACevery language / OS has it's own thing.09:07
Carpe_LibertatemRB has podcast support?09:07
bob2ERMAC: no, I mean programmed09:07
brownie17bob2: what do i do? that didn't fix anything09:07
NoUseNalioth but that doesn't aggrigate my podcast feeds09:07
bob2ERMAC: things in ubuntu are written in dozens of languages09:07
apokryphosgeeksauce: ah, doesn't seem to exist in hoary. Hm.09:07
bob2ERMAC: some are compiled, some are interpreted09:07
bob2brownie17: I don't even know what your original problem was09:07
bob2cafuego: that's the most obnoxious page I've seen all week09:08
brownie17bob2: smeg wouldnt install through synaptic, got an error09:08
cafuegobob2: Oh come on, it's funny :-P09:08
ERMACdepends, I know C++, C, VB (not really a REAL language), python, and languages like that.09:08
bob2indeed09:08
brownie17rob^: that thing in the sources didnt fix anything, it still gives me the same error09:08
bob2ERMAC: there you go, you've answered your own question09:08
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bob2brownie17: ignore synaptic then09:08
rob^brownie17, did you fix your sources.list?09:08
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geeksauceapokryphos: how can i check to make sure i have exported the variable properly?09:09
bob2oh, I should check if agile is at my exchange yet09:09
apokryphosgeeksauce: echo it09:09
brownie17rob^: yes, and now that apt-get thing works fine, but synpatic still wont install smeg, which was the orgional problem09:09
geeksauceapokryphos: how?09:09
rob^brownie17, do: sudo apt-get remove smeg09:09
apokryphosgeeksauce: echo PKG_CONFIG_PATH09:09
rob^then install it again09:09
brownie17bob2: what do you mean ignore it? the only other way of installing smeg is do use script, and that didnt work either09:09
brownie17rob^ i allready used synaptic to remove it09:10
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bob2someone needs to make a "backports" person unfuck that whole thing09:10
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bob2I tried and failed to beat sense into them09:10
rob^yep09:10
geeksauceapokryphos:  what goes after PKG_CONFIG_PATH  ?09:10
rob^they are an official project now09:10
rob^they should be09:10
LaserLineIf I have a P3-600, Should I install the Ubuntu 686 Kernel ?09:10
brownie17rob^ so should synpatic install smeg fine now?09:10
cafuegogeeksauce: echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH09:10
apokryphosgeeksauce: just echo it; the output is what you exported the variable as.09:11
rob^probably09:11
robert1123hello all. I am trying to install apache and I need to add my universial repository but how do I do this by command line?09:11
brownie17rob^ it didnt09:11
cafuegogeeksauce: apokryphos forgou the '$'09:11
apokryphosgeh09:11
bob2official in name09:11
cafuegorobert1123: 'apache2' is in main, afaik.09:11
rob^yeah ;P09:11
apokryphosgeeksauce: echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH09:11
bob2they still appear to be in their own little world09:11
cafuegoLaserLine: Yes, btw.09:11
brownie17rob^ you got no more ideas on whats wrong? i found a guide on what was wrong, but that was more fucked up and than this error09:11
rob^brownie17, just remove it, wait a month for breezy which has it installed by default09:12
LaserLinecafuego I need to install the headers too, ot just the linux-686 package ?09:12
brownie17rob^ what is breezy?,09:12
apokryphosbob2: which backports? The forum or the a.u.c one?09:12
apokryphosubotu: tell brownie17 about breezy09:12
rob^next release of Ubuntu09:12
cafuegoLaserLine: No need for headers unless you're custom compiling stuff.09:12
ERMACif you lock ur desktop in live mode, whats the password to unlock?09:12
geeksauceapokryphos: says "/usr/lib/pgkconfig/09:12
geeksauce" , so i guess i exported properly09:12
robert1123cafuego: thanks. but how do I add my universial repository from command line? they only tell you how to do it from gui on the ubuntu site.09:12
bob2apokryphos: both09:12
bob2randomly backporting things with no testing is a terrible path09:13
cafuegorobert1123: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, add universe to the end on the line that starts with 'deb'09:13
apokryphosgeeksauce: it's p*kg*config09:13
robert1123thanks09:13
LaserLinecafuego... Ok Thanks, BTW - another question, When I mark all upgrades in Synaptic, what to choose "smart" or default ? I usually choose "smart"09:13
apokryphossure. Firefox problems again I heard the other day from backports. :/09:13
geeksauceapokryphos: huh?09:13
cafuegoLaserLine: smart is fine09:14
LaserLinecafuego thanks.09:14
apokryphosgeeksauce: close that terminal. Open a new one, and do *exactly* this:   export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig/09:15
apokryphosgeeksauce: then cd into the appropriate directory and run the configure09:15
cafuegowhoops libc6 update09:15
Naliothbrb09:15
geeksauceapokryphos: what was the prefix?09:17
apokryphosgeeksauce: /usr/local09:17
apokryphosgeeksauce: though you could still get errors; the app requests other things of higher version09:18
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geeksauceapokryphos: so it should be like ./configure -usr/local --enable-ipod09:19
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apokryphosgeeksauce: no :).  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-ipod09:19
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geeksauceapokryphos: yeah, like you said, still dependency errors.  where do i go from here?09:24
Naliothgeeksauce: squash the dependency errors09:26
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dazvidHello people09:27
dazvid:)09:27
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Xanthus7Ok I have sane installed but how do I use it09:27
Xanthus7what program do I use to scan something with09:28
tritiumhi apokryphos09:28
IceDC571oh thats why the channel was so dead.. i was in #ubuntu-unregged09:28
dazvidYeh, I had the same problem last night09:28
dazvidlol09:28
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apokryphosgeeksauce: you don't really wanna get into dependency hell...09:28
apokryphostritium: hola!09:29
dazvidCan someone please help me grub setup?09:29
bob2you need to ask a question...09:29
IceDC571does anyone use ext2 in windows? im wondering how it is because i have an external hd that is ext2 and i want to use it with my ubuntu and windows computers09:29
ColonelKernelwhats up09:29
geeksauceapokryphos: lol, no but i reallly want my ipod to work in linux09:29
carthikXanthus7, you should have a scanner with the drivers setup09:29
apokryphosgeeksauce: isn't there gtkpod or something for gnome?09:29
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apokryphosgeeksauce: my amaroK does the business just fine though...09:29
IceDC571apokryphos, yep.. gtkpod exactly09:29
bob2IceDC571: you can mount it readonly09:29
ColonelKernelgeeksauce, hell, they have linux for ps2 and dreamcast, why the hell not09:29
geeksaucehahaha09:30
Xanthus7I have a visoneer 5800 but it has not linux stuff with it check web site all windows programs09:30
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IceDC571bob2, well i just did a quick read on the new IFS (installable file system) for windows and now you can read and write in windows.. which seems a little messy for me09:30
bob2I don't know what that means09:30
geeksauceapokryphos so you're saying amarok works with ipod?09:30
=== ColonelKernel just wants a tiny cheap mp3 player w some kinda flash card that takes at least 1g of mp3's
bob2but I would not trust windows to write to a linux filesystem09:30
bob2ever09:30
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ColonelKernelbob2, i dont even think thats possible09:31
apokryphosgeeksauce: quite perfectly, yes. Not sure if the version in the repos does... iPod support was added in 1.309:31
IceDC571problem is.. windows is stupid and doesnt know what to do with FAT partitions over 36gb09:31
ERMAChow do you get all this info on your desktop? http://hungsquirrel.org/images/ubuntu.png09:31
IceDC571so it just pretends there is no hd at all09:31
NaliothColonelKernel: ext2fs makes it possible09:31
geeksauceapokryphos: heh, will i have to get into dependency hell if i attempt to install 1.3? :)09:31
ColonelKernelNalioth, that use to be read only09:31
bob2you generally don't bother about that "info09:31
apokryphosgeeksauce: all the stuff you will need should be in the repositories, apart from taglib09:31
bob2since it's useless and comparing ram size is something you stop doing when you hit 1409:31
ColonelKernelok thats some NICE art for desktop09:32
Naliothapokryphos: taglib isnt in the repos?09:32
geeksauceapokryphos: aight cool09:32
apokryphosNalioth: the one required for 1.3 is not, no.09:32
ColonelKerneli dig the transparent terminal window09:32
Naliothah09:32
apokryphosgeeksauce: there's debs on the forum for both of those, though09:32
No1VikingHow do I set Joliet filenames when I burn a DVD?09:32
IceDC571i found this http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html09:32
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apokryphosubotu: tell geeksauce about amarok1.309:32
ColonelKernelNo1Viking, select it in your burning program09:32
bob2No1Viking: man mkisofs, hint: -J09:32
IceDC571but im like.. writing with windows is now possible? what about the whole chmod deal? damn..09:33
ColonelKernelIceDC571, thats what im wondering09:33
No1VikingOK, so what burning program have the joliet option?09:33
IceDC571on the website it says nothing about permissions on ext209:33
No1VikingWith a GUI fo course09:34
IceDC571No1Viking, nerolinux.. heh09:34
ColonelKernelExt2fsd, An ext2 filesystem driver for Windows NT/2K/XP. The most recent version has read-write support09:34
ColonelKernelthats insane09:34
ColonelKernelif that really works right that means no more vfat share partition09:35
apokryphosERMAC: I think that's gkrellm or whatever it is. For good screenshots get a theme manager, like superkaramba.09:35
IceDC571but how is it all of a sudden now write support? wouldnt it take a while to make it stable?09:35
Xanthus7I have a visoneer 5800 but it has not linux stuff with it check web site all windows programs09:35
ColonelKernelas long as im not gaming linux has it all over windows09:36
bob2IceDC571: not if they just slop the linux ext2 driver into the windows kernel09:36
IceDC571ohh i see.. so its like emulation of the real thing09:36
ERMACi just want like the info on the sides, etc, so I can keep track of stuff09:36
IceDC571i can see it now, permission errors everywhere in windows09:37
ColonelKernelbob2, what if they oh so carefully patch it in there gently and seal it up with flowers and goodness?09:37
bob2doing that would violate the ext2 license, tho09:37
ColonelKernel:(09:37
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lewwyhi guys09:38
ColonelKernelslop it is09:38
IceDC571hmm.. whenever i do cp -rvf * /foo it always hangs on some random file and freezes the copying process09:38
ColonelKernelwhich pretty much fits microsoft anyhow09:38
IceDC571its done this on my other computer too09:38
DewDudekeep ext2 on linux...were it belongs09:38
DewDudewhere09:38
lewwyif i were to download Ubuntu Linux v5.10 Colony 3 for AMD64 ISO would this be like, stable?09:38
ColonelKernelits too bad theres no counter-strike 2 using the doom3 gameshell09:38
IceDC571i'm trying to copy all my music to my external hard drive but it keeps freezing after it transfers some amount of files09:39
lewwybetter question, is Ubuntu Linux v5.10 Colony 3 for AMD64 ISO a stable release09:39
ColonelKernelthat kinda hurts my feelings, the last one used the quake2 gameshell09:39
DewDudei just network drives if they're in a different fs  *coughmusicdriveisntfscough*09:39
ColonelKernelwhat the hell09:39
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ColonelKernel5.1009:39
apokryphoslewwy: you're better off upgrading to something more late; development changes radically09:39
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IceDC571the latest daily is nice09:39
IceDC571try it09:39
lewwyuhh ok apokryphos, could you recommend something for my new amd64 sys ima get?09:40
apokryphoslewwy: breezy's stability is on-and-off, but it really is getting more stable (noticeably).09:40
Deterministbob2: you around?09:40
bob2lewwy: do yo ucare about binary-only software?09:40
bob2Determinist: briefly09:40
lewwywhat is binary-only software?09:40
IceDC571lewwy, remember if it hangs on the post-install, you'll have to switch terminals and comment out all sources but cdrom and reboot09:40
apokryphoslewwy: not compiling everything09:40
bob2lewwy: windows dlls, windows programs, flash, acrobat...09:40
Deterministbob2: a question... more a theoretical one tho, since i cant really configure that kind of thing right now09:40
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bob2ubuntu unstable has tended to be more broken than sid, sadly09:40
Deterministbob2: got 2 computers, 1 with 2 NICs. NIC1 = cable modem09:40
bob2I used sid for 4 years, and now I'm still running hoary09:41
IceDC571anyone have an idea why copying to an external hard drive always freezes for me?09:41
lewwyhmmm, i wouldnt mind compiling everything from source, if i didnt have so many freaking problems with it09:41
Deterministbob2: NIC2 = crossed cable to computer #2.09:41
Deterministbob2: how would one be able to make computer #2 access the net through #1?09:41
ColonelKernelbob2, yes, your help in debian was much appreciated, and it is good to see you in here now.09:41
bob2lewwy: that's not what I was talking about09:41
lewwybob2, ok09:41
DewDudeDeterminist, what OS is computer 1?09:41
bob2lewwy: do you care about things like flash, or acrobat or windows programs?09:41
DeterministDewDude: both ubuntu hoary09:42
bob2Determinist: sure09:42
DewDudeoh09:42
DewDudeno idea09:42
lewwybob2, uhhh, not really i suppose09:42
geeksauceapokryphos: ahhhh http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181609:42
bob2lewwy: then I'd go with hoary amd6409:42
DewDuderight now i'm going Windows XP wireless -> switch -> iMac09:42
lewwybob2, why, whats the difference in breezy?09:42
IceDC571i think i need to fill up my hd with zeros.. is there a program like boot and nuke for linux?09:42
lewwy*Mac ftl09:42
bob2lewwy: it's more broken09:42
bob2IceDC571: it's called dd09:42
lewwykk09:42
lewwythanks09:42
DewDudecuz i don't think i can find a USB wireless adapter that'll work in ubuntu09:42
Deterministbob2: sure... as in yes it can be done. i'll assume one would need to have a bridge set up between NIC1 which is the modem and NIC2 which is the network consisting of 2 computers.09:43
bob2IceDC571: and is on your livecd09:43
lewwy:((((09:43
bob2DewDude: my netgear ma-111 worked well09:43
IceDC571omg i just typed it in the terminal in my home directory09:43
DewDudewell09:43
bob2as well as any usb wireless device is going to wor, I guess09:43
DewDudei have no need for it09:43
bob2DewDude: no09:43
bob2er09:43
IceDC571and it did something.. ouch09:43
lewwyhey, is it just me bob2, or is kubuntu more broken than ubuntu09:43
bob2Determinist: no09:43
CaiN_SAwhat version of kde is in breezy ?09:43
bob2I don't know, I've never used kubuntu09:43
lewwytouche09:43
bob2CaiN_SA: packages.ubuntu.com/kde09:43
Deterministbob2: no ... what?09:43
CaiN_SAerm not kubuntu hey09:44
bob2IceDC571: dd does nothing by default09:44
apokryphosgeeksauce: that's weird; it's built on a hoary machine so it shouldn't ask for such dependencies... maybe just force ignore depends.09:44
bob2Determinist: no need for a bridge09:44
DewDudekubuntu = ubuntu with kde09:44
apokryphosCaiN_SA: 3.4.2 currently09:44
DewDudeso..it's the same09:44
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Carpe_Libertatemkde = death!09:44
CaiN_SAin breezy that added kde into the ubuntu stuff09:44
Deterministbob2: how then? set up NAT?09:44
CaiN_SAthx09:44
CaiN_SAapokryphos,09:44
IceDC571well it sure is doing something09:44
geeksauceapokryphos: how?09:44
IceDC571actually i think it just took away my cursor09:44
DewDudehave fun with iptables09:44
DewDudehehehe09:44
Deterministlol09:44
LaserLineAfter Installing UBUNTU and updateing the system I get the following error... VFS Error EXT3 Filesystem not found on /dev/hda and the Filesystem is NOT clean ( I have a ReiserFS filesystem) - What's going on ??09:44
Deterministi dont like iptables :/09:45
apokryphosgeeksauce: man dpkg09:45
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IceDC571ack, i hate reading manuals09:45
bob2Determinist: yes09:45
apokryphosgeeksauce: use the --force-depends option. Make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed first, though.09:45
Deterministbob2: how would one go about this? any place you suggest I ask such a question?09:45
bob2LaserLine: "updateing the system"?09:45
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bob2Determinist: install ipmasq on the cable modem machine09:46
geeksauceah, i didn't think about having to have kde installed09:46
Xanthus7what is the main difference between kbe desktop and gnome desktop09:46
bob2Determinist: why don't you like iptables?09:46
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LaserLinebob2 Synaptic - Makr all upgrades... chose "smart"09:46
ColonelKernelwhen is breezy slated to go stable?09:46
bob2Xanthus7: one is KDE, one is GNOME09:46
bob2ColonelKernel: october09:46
apokryphosgeeksauce: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop09:46
Deterministbob2: still havent learned to use it... so i'm not liking it, yet :)09:46
ColonelKernelman09:46
Xanthus7ok I understand that but is one better than the other09:46
ColonelKernelnot complaining, this is just so nice its going to hurt to upgrade09:46
bob2Determinist: you don't need to learn iptables, it's a low-level tool.  ipmasq automates basically your whole plan.09:46
bob2shorewall is another nice frontend09:47
DewDudeXanthus7, it's a matter of personal preference09:47
bob2Xanthus7: no, neiter is better than the other09:47
bob2ColonelKernel: how come?09:47
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Xanthus7I have never used kde always have used gnoe09:47
Carpe_LibertatemXanthus7: Sometimes one is better for some, and the other better for others.09:47
LaserLineAny clue ??09:47
bob2LaserLine: hoary?09:47
Deterministbob2: i see. ok, thanks. i suppose i'll have a look at the chains ipmasq creates then to see how it was done. i assume ipmasq is some tool used to manipulate iptables rules, correct?09:47
apokryphosXanthus7: it's worth trying out both, of course.09:47
bob2your questio is lacking large amounts of useful detail09:47
LaserLinebob2 yes, with ubuntu backports enabled.09:48
Carpe_LibertatemXanthus7: There's also fluxbox, openbox, IceWM, enlightenment, nad a bunch of others.09:48
bob2LaserLine: haha09:48
bob2LaserLine: ask in the backports forum on www.ubuntuguide.org09:48
bob2assuming it was actually an error, not a warning09:48
Xanthus7Thank give me all those choices now in quandry land which one to pick LOL09:48
bob2Determinist: it does the whole thing for you, yes09:48
Deterministbob2: thanks.09:48
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LaserLinebob2, "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem ob dev hda1" -- Is that ok ? sience I have a RaiserFS filesystem ?09:49
bob2I hear firestarter is good if you like clickiness09:49
carthikXanthus - i use enlightenment with gnome - worth trying - if i may say so09:49
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bob2have tou filed a bug?09:50
bob2LaserLine: is it a warning or an error?09:50
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Deterministbob2: firestarter wont set up forwarding rules tho, just Accept and drop rules09:50
Carpe_LibertatemXanthus7: What do you like in a display manager? Do you find problems with GNOME?09:50
Kamping_Kaiserbob2: me? im still trying to work out what could be causing it09:50
bob2Determinist: are you sure?09:51
apokryphosXanthus7: the two most popular are KDE and GNOME. The other ones are generally more "lightweight" Desktop Environments, but can also be very nice.09:51
Deterministbob2: quite, unless i've missed a feature or 10... which i dont think since i've played with it quite a bit09:51
bob2it has a wizard, I hear09:51
apokryphosXanthus7: really, only kde and gnome are *properly* supported by [K] ubuntu09:51
omp342i'm waiting till breezy comes out to install ubuntu, but i'm having second thoughts about waiting so long.. what do you guys think?09:52
Deterministbob2: yes, but the wizard has afew defaults which do not seem to play along with my currect setup. either way... this is more of a learning how to do it issue than making it work one.09:52
carthik_ina_carapokryphos, the others are not desktop environments - just window managers09:52
bob2Determinist: ok09:52
bob2Determinist: if you intend to fiddle, shorewall is a far better choice09:52
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bob2I've never succeeded in twiddling ipmasq without breaking it completely09:53
Deterministbob2: will check into that too. thank you.09:53
bob2omp342: why would you wait?09:53
aftertafomp342:  go hoary dude09:53
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aftertafthen enjoy going breezy when it stables09:54
aftertafhoary is coool09:54
Kamping_Kaiseromp342: and its going to be worth the wait :)09:54
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, i agree aftertaf :) but breezy will be better09:54
aftertafif you have a before after scenario, you can appreciate more!!!!!09:54
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  :)09:54
Kamping_Kaiser:D09:54
Xanthus7carthik where can you download enlightment and does it work on the current version of gnome09:54
bob2no09:55
omp342i guess i'll install ubuntu monday =] 09:55
aftertafyeah:)09:55
Kamping_Kaiserwoot09:55
aftertaf[k] 09:56
aftertafwoot? where?09:56
apokryphosubotu: tell Xanthus7 about enlightenment09:56
aftertafwho?09:56
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: lol. i thought i was winning against the laptop, but im not :/09:56
LaserLinebob2 It's the first warning after the Starting Ubuntu line after GRUB.09:57
Xanthus7I hate this brown desktop them in ubuntu09:57
bob2Xanthus7: then change it09:57
aftertafXandriX:  go kubuntu :)09:57
aftertafor change :)09:57
Xanthus7ok where do I get other themes at09:58
LaserLinebob2 Any Idea?09:58
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bob2Xanthus7: there are other themes included already09:58
bob2LaserLine: you didn't really abswer my question09:58
bob2LaserLine: does it boot fine?09:58
LaserLinebob2 Yes.09:58
bob2then ignore it09:59
ompenlightenment is horrible =o09:59
LaserLinebob2 Ok...09:59
ompat least in my opinion09:59
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Kamping_Kaiserenlightnment needs learning09:59
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apokryphosomp: the development version looks pretty flash, but whether it will ever be released you can't help but wonder10:00
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scooba_steveHey10:01
LaserLineDoes FSCK work with ReiserFS ?10:01
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bob2nope10:02
bob2yet another reason why reiser is so awesome10:02
geeksauceapokryphos: i installed kubuntu desktop, then tried ignoring package dependencies on amarok -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181810:02
LaserLinebob2, are you being cynical ?10:02
bob2I'm being sarcastic10:02
hackeronwhat would you say is your favorite bittorrent client and why?10:03
bob2one of the main reasons sane people don't use reiser is because of it's lack of recovery tools10:03
LaserLinebob2 Ok, so what tools to check and "fix" the RaiserFS ?10:03
mrimbertreiserfs ate my research10:03
bob2there aren't any10:03
omphow do you peopel like kde more than gnome? :/10:04
LaserLinebob2 so it doesn't scan itself every 30 bootups ?10:04
bob2and pickign a non-default filesystem if you don't know how to use it seems fairly suboptimal10:04
bob2correct10:04
LaserLinebob2 I think the error might have come, because i wrote 'shutdown -rF now' ?10:04
scooba_steveI'm running the Hoary LiveCD (x86) and whenever I move a window around it has a sort of "ghost" trail effect delay when redrawing the window.. My refresh rate is 85 hz, the highest it will allow me to set it. Does anybody else have this problem with the Live Cd?10:04
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bob2LaserLine: why  would you think that?10:05
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LaserLinebob2 don't know... searching my optionts...10:06
LaserLinebob2, what is the package reiserfsprogs? it says it has fsck.reiserfs410:06
bob2perhaps it randomly corrupted itself10:06
bob2a) you're not using reiser410:06
bob2b) I'm pretty sure that command does nothing10:06
bob2fsck for reiser3 at least just exits without doing anything10:06
bob2progreiserfs and reiserfsprogrs contain tools that claim to fix reiser10:07
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bob2but one of them is unmaintained and critically buggy10:07
bob2I forget which10:07
geeksauceapokryphos: i installed kubuntu desktop, then tried ignoring package dependencies on amarok -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181810:08
LaserLinebob2, on the other hand, when I had EXT3 on (12 hours ago) I recieved a lot of EXT3 errors and Inode blah blah....10:08
bob2LaserLine: then you almost certainly have physical disk problems10:08
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LaserLinebob2 while haveing installed ubuntu 3 times...10:08
bob2there you go10:08
apokryphosgeeksauce: ok, try removing amarok from there and doing just plain taglib10:08
mrimbertyeah, sounds like physical problems with the disk10:09
bob2when things continue to fuck up, figure out why10:09
geeksauceapokryphos: k i'll try hang on10:09
LaserLinebob2 Is it the drive or the IDA controller ? how can I check what's wrong ?10:09
bob2no idea10:09
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LaserLinebob2, I get this error after running smartctl from the liveCD on a wiped drive: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/180910:10
mrimbertLaserLine: failure rates for drives are higher han for controllers10:10
mrimberts/han/than10:10
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LaserLinemrimbert I'd be glad if you could take a look on the pastebit for me too.10:10
mrimbertok10:10
mrimbertyou tried to wipe a file on reiserfs?10:11
LaserLinemrimbert what do you mean ?10:11
mrimbertasking if you installed and used wipe10:11
mrimbertit's not supposed to be used with journaling filesystems10:11
onkarshindeCan anyone tell me what advantages ReiserFS has over ext3 for personal computing daily use?10:11
geeksauceapokryphos: still havin problems with dependencies-> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/181910:11
LaserLinemrimbert nope, I wiped with UBCD (killdisk) before installing.10:11
bob2onkarshinde: none10:12
LaserLinemrimbert the pastebin was generated with a wiped drive and livecd (installed smartmon on the livecd)10:12
apokryphosgeeksauce: you're not meant to use sudo when you're root, of course, by the way.10:12
mrimbertok, LaserLine10:12
geeksauceapokryphos: ohh ok thanks10:13
apokryphosgeeksauce: though admittedly I have no idea for why it's asking for a higher gcc. Annoying.10:13
LaserLinemrimbert what do you think ?10:13
mrimbertLaserLine: can't tell10:14
apokryphosgeeksauce: have you tried gtkpod?10:14
geeksauceapokryphos: couldd i just install the higher version then?10:14
LaserLinemrimbert ok, thanks/10:15
geeksauceapokryphos: nah, haven't tried that10:15
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apokryphosgeeksauce: if you don't use gtkpod, your only other choice is to compile libtag. Compiling in general is not so fun if you don't know what you're doing10:15
apokryphosgeeksauce: worth trying. It's in the repositories.10:15
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IceDC571wonderful so i copied all my music files to /media/usbdisk and it copied it into a folder called usbdisk on the same hd10:17
IceDC571i love linux10:17
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z|banditohello all10:17
IceDC571hi10:17
mrimbertIceDC571: you did something wrong10:18
aftertafhi z|bandito10:18
z|banditoi have ubuntu installed on this box, and it seems to be playing sound effects triggered by gnome ok, but when I try and use the CD player or the internet radio it seems to be all garbled.  any ideas?10:18
geeksauceapokryphos: it says "iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.10:18
geeksauce"10:18
IceDC571yeah its copying to my external hd now10:19
apokryphosgeeksauce: not sure how it works, but you probably have to mount your ipod under /mnt/ipod for it to detect it10:19
IceDC571but pretty soon it will freeze and crash10:19
IceDC571which i have no idea why linux does that10:19
mrimbertgood night10:19
apokryphos'night10:19
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IceDC571it just froze again10:20
IceDC571now i have to reformat my external hd, recreate the partition and recopy my files until it fails again10:20
ompIceDC571: =o10:21
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geeksauceapokryphos: it wants it mounted under /media/ipod/   how do i change where it is mounted and under what name?10:23
ColonelKernelhow do I put my computer into standby to ram mody?10:24
ColonelKernelmode?10:24
apokryphosgeeksauce: it's vfat, no?10:25
bob2ColonelKernel: sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh10:25
bob2ColonelKernel: assuming your laptop is supported10:25
apokryphossudo mount /dev/sdaX /media/ipod -t vfat -o umask=00010:25
ColonelKernelI dont have a laptop its a desktop10:25
apokryphosgeeksauce: ...where sdaX is the respective iPod entry10:25
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bob2ColonelKernel: then you almost certainly can't; suspend-to-ram requires hardware support10:25
bob2ColonelKernel: you should be able to suspend to disk, however10:25
ColonelKernelit does it in windoze...10:26
geeksauceapokryphos: yeah, fat3210:26
bob2I'd be very surprised if windows really did that10:26
ColonelKernelit does10:26
bob2hw do you know?10:26
apokryphosgeeksauce: ok, so do that.10:26
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ColonelKernelall the fans and everything shut off and when I hit enter it comes back to life10:26
ColonelKernelright back where I was10:26
bob2that's not neccessarily suspend to ram10:27
ColonelKernelwell it aint to the HD cause it starts back up FAST10:27
ColonelKernelbut no, that doesnt work10:27
bob2why do you think it suspended at all?10:27
ColonelKernelit doesnt spn the drive other than to power it up, it doesnt go taking info off the hd or anything10:27
bob2it could just power down the fans and slow down the CPU10:27
ColonelKernelbecause the box is powered down, but the power LED is blinking10:28
ColonelKernelthe hd are off10:28
ColonelKerneltheres no signal to the monitor10:28
ColonelKerneltheres no fans spinning10:28
aftertafColonelKernel:  if you wiggle the mouse?10:28
IceDC571bob2, is there any way i could get dd in verbose mode?10:28
ColonelKerneland of course, I selected "stand by"10:28
dazvidColonelKernel, thats windows "hibernate" yeh?10:28
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ColonelKernelno hibernate you hit ctrl at that screen10:28
bob2IceDC571: to do what?10:29
ColonelKerneland you have to enable ti in the power management settings10:29
ColonelKernelanyhow im gonna go do it now10:29
ColonelKernelsee you al tommorrow10:29
dazvidRighto10:29
IceDC571bob2, i'm writing zeros on my external hd but i have no idea how long its going to take10:29
IceDC571all it has is a blinking cursor10:29
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mitzkrieghowdy, anyone around that might be able to help me with totem?10:30
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IceDC571there is no verbose mode on dd.. great..10:31
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Luna-TickHello everyone, how do I get the Gnome cpufreq system tray applet to start?10:31
geeksauceapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/182310:32
apokryphosgeeksauce: your ipod is apparently not /dev/sdb10:32
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geeksauceapokryphos: oops, it's sdb210:34
bob2Luna-Tick: right click on pane. add applet. enjoy.10:35
Deterministbbl10:35
geeksauceapokryphos: what is the command to delete a dir...i created the wrong one and now i don't have permission to delete10:35
apokryphosrm -rf /some/directory10:35
mitzkriegpossible help with Totem? when i try to start it up i get this error "Totem could not startup, Resource busy or not available"10:36
Luna-TickThanks bob2 - had to unlock the panel and give myself some space to click on! Wouldn't have found it had I not known it was there :D10:37
geeksauceapokryphos: thanks.  is there a way i can make the ipod mount to that folder every time i plug it in?  i know i could add a line to fstab, but wouldn't that just mount it if it was already plugged in on boot?10:37
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apokryphosgeeksauce: not sure what tools gnome uses to automatically detect things; in fact, not sure if they have any. Regardless, if you ever just mount that directory (/media/ipod) it'll do the stuff appropriately10:38
geeksauceok coo10:39
LaserLineWhat does the line "Filesystem seems mounted as readonly, skipping journal replay" on boot sequance after the line "Filesystem Clean" - working with reiserFS10:39
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LaserLineanyone has an idea what does the above line mean ?10:41
Salutishello all10:41
dazvidhi Salutis10:41
Salutisdazvid, thanks10:42
LaserLinehey Salutis.10:42
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Torpslo ppl10:42
Torpsdoes any 1 know how to set up ubuntu to work on the net with RP-PPPoR10:43
Torpsit connects, but nothing happens10:43
Torpscant get the browser to do anything10:43
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Seveasdo you get an ip address?10:44
Torpsits going over an adsl router10:44
bob2Torps: why are you using RP?10:44
Torpsso i set the machine to DHCP10:44
bob2and no, it's not going over a router10:44
Torpswhat else could i use ?10:44
bob2if it was, your machine would not know about the DSL at all10:44
Torpsbut the router is not set up like a router10:44
bob2go back and explain what your goal is10:44
bob2then it's a bridge in thise case, not a router10:45
Torpsok=)10:45
Torpsi have a adsl modem10:45
Torpsi need to connect to it with PPPoE10:45
Torpsso i installed RP-PPPoE and it works now10:45
Torpsshows that it is conncted10:45
bob2ok10:46
Torpsbut browser doesnt pick up the connection10:46
bob2get rid of RP entirely10:46
Torpsok10:46
bob2then run "sudo pppoeconf"10:46
bob2then "sudo pon" to connect10:46
Torpscool10:46
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Torpsthanks =)10:46
Torpswill try that10:46
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osfameronwoot, maybe my ubuntu disks have arrived10:48
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lassesandberghi people10:48
Torpsawsome10:48
Torpsthat worked10:48
lassesandbergi installed wine through synaptic package manager, but i dont get any config file after the first time i run it10:48
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Torpsthanks10:48
lassesandberghow do i get the default config file10:49
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lassesandberganyone?10:51
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aftertafcan you install the system with a live cd?10:52
aftertaf a qu on #kubuntu10:52
bob2not simply10:52
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aftertafbob2:  very complicated ?10:54
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bob2not very10:54
bob2you really should just use the install cd, tho10:54
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dazvidaftertaf, there is a bounty for someone to develop that feature10:55
dazvidI was reading it last night10:55
apokryphosOn some Live CDs there's a secret "install" option, but I forget which ones; not any Kubuntu, IIRC.10:55
aftertaflol dazvid really?10:55
Burgundaviadazvid, it is mostly done. It should become default for breezy+110:55
dazvidah ok, cant remember who it was assigned to10:55
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bob2the UbuntuExpress people10:55
bob2who appear to be behind schedule10:55
dazvid:o10:55
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dazvidumm, I have this giant grey square in my display.. anyone else get this problem?10:56
dazvidits "Always on top" too.. so I cant see whats beneath it10:56
dazvidits also on all of my desktops :|10:57
aftertafdazvid:  restart X is it still there?10:57
dazvidWhats the easiest way to restart X and keep my session open?10:58
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aftertafX session? you can't (afaik)10:58
dazviddamn10:58
dazvidok well.. brb.10:58
aftertafu d/l ing ?10:58
dazvidNope10:58
dazvidjust happened while I was reading some text documents in vim10:58
aftertafno preocesses haging around being weird?10:59
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dazvidHow do I check background processes?11:00
aftertafopen console, type ps -A11:00
dazvidis there a keyboard shortcut similar to Ctrl Alt del11:00
aftertafkde, Ctl & Esc11:00
aftertafgnome dunno11:00
dazvidah ok11:00
dazvidApparently I have no processes?11:00
bob2"background processes" has a specific meaning11:01
bob2what are you trying to look at?11:01
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dazvidbob2, Im not sure what Im looking for.. theres a big grey box in the top left of my screen which is always on top. Its just rather annyoing11:02
dazvidOnly popped up while reading text documents in vim11:02
bob2you neglected to mention lots of details, tho11:02
bob2right11:02
bob2so presumably it's part of vim11:02
bob2or you ran it and forgot11:02
dazvidLots of details? It just appeared -_-11:03
gn0meanyone know how to eliminate: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".11:03
bob2that seems somewhat unlikely11:03
Seveasgn0me, by enabling DRI perhaps...11:04
gn0mein my xorg.conf it includes the DRI module. :-\11:04
dazvidwell, all I did was open vim in a console and then it appeared11:04
aftertafgn0me:  what gfx card do you have?11:04
gn0meATI Radeon 9600XT11:04
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bob2gn0me: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:05
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bob2dazvid: so, we here have no more information than what you have said?11:05
bob2did it show up at the same time?11:05
bob2if so, that's relevant11:05
dazvidno, it was as I switched a window (to gaim i believe)11:06
`paulif a have root access is it possible to hide a process ..(invisible from ps aux??)11:06
gn0meWhat if I don't have a /proc/pci :-\11:06
bob2`paul: of course11:07
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bob2gn0me: then use lspci11:07
dazvidmeh, I will just reboot. brb.11:07
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bob2`paul: root can do anything11:07
`paulhow? at bob2?11:07
bob2dude11:08
`pauli mean i ran something with nohup <aaaaa> &11:08
bob2root can overwrite any part of memory11:08
bob2this is what rootkits do11:08
bob2oh11:08
`paulrootkits...11:08
bob2no, there is no command line tool for it, because that would be dumb11:08
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`paulive read that there is a trick in renaming a process... to something11:09
bob2why would you want to hide a process?11:09
`paulso its better to add rootkits11:09
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bob2wtf11:10
scanwinderis there a command to activate a wireless card.......at the moment i have to go into the network admin utility every time i want to use wireless......i want a command that i can put in a shell script11:10
bob2stop being obscure11:10
`paul:(11:10
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bob2`paul: why on earth would you want to hide a process?11:10
osfameronscanwinder: sudo ifup ?11:10
bob2you haven't explained what on earth you're doing11:10
onkarshindeanybody from India here?11:10
gn0meIs there a way I can override version mismatch dependencies with apt-get?11:10
scanwinderosfameron: thanks11:10
gn0meCan't seem to find it in the manpage11:10
Salutis#join slovakia11:10
bob2gn0me: no, that won't help11:10
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gn0meI'm trying to install the fglrx driver, so it might.11:11
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osfameronscanwinder: your wireless card should be something like wlan0 or ath0 (on mine it's eth1) try ifconfig to get the possibilities11:11
bob2gn0me: no, don't do that11:11
bob2gn0me: read the page I poitned you at, not some random other one11:11
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bob2`paul: ?11:13
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spolaso i used sound juicer to rip my *entire* cd collection to ogg (which took days)... and now I just discovered my mp3 player can't play ogg files. I was wondering how to convert these ogg's to mp3's11:13
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`paulnevermind... sorry...11:14
rule187Hi, how can I set a static IP and subnet mask in the CLI?11:14
bob2this is why ripping to lossy formats is a bad idea...11:14
bob2rule187: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev eth011:14
spolarule187, do "man 5 interfaces"11:14
bob2rule187: ip route add 1.2.3.0/24 dev eth011:14
rule187thanks guys :)11:15
spolabob2, so ... there's no way to do this? wth i found at least a dozen windows programs that do excactly what i need while looking for a linux program11:16
bob2spola: sure, there's tons of ways11:16
bob2it's like one line of shell11:16
bob2but it' a terrible idea11:16
spolawell i dont want to convert my entire collection11:16
`paulbtw, is ubuntu that diff from debian... coz i put a deb repository in the sources.list and updated evrything... after i restarted evrything was f*ckd up11:16
seliniumspola: check out sox11:16
spolai was thinking of just converting everything on my mp3 player before umounting11:16
scanwinderosfameron: ifup didnt seem to do it...... "sudo ifup ath0" is what i tried.......11:16
spolaselinium, thx11:17
bob2mp32ogg - Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis11:17
osfameronscanwinder: try iwconfig to see what interfaces you have ?11:17
scanwinderosfameron: wait, it did activate it...it must be sumthin else is wrong....11:17
bob2`paul: no, that was stupid, do not mix them unless you know what you're doing11:17
scanwinderosfameron: its ath011:17
osfameronscanwinder: do you have a key or something?11:17
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bob2dir2ogg - converts mp3, m4a, and wav files into ogg-vorbis format11:17
bob2etc11:17
bob2spola: apt-cache search mp3 ogg11:18
bob2any one of those will be simple to get going11:18
scanwinderosfameron: i put in the key11:18
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scanwinderosfameron: i put iwconfig ath0 key xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx in11:19
scanwinderosfameron: its picking up the access point but it wont get an IP address11:20
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bob2best to disable WEP entirely11:21
bob2to make sure it works11:21
^ChRiS^^Okay I need some help11:21
`paulcan i use kate in ubuntu(gnome) by just installing the base kde lib?11:22
osfameronscanwinder: yeah, what bob2 said :-)  actually, I use wifiradar, because I'm lazy and it's (relatively) shiny11:23
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bob2`paul: just by insatlling kate, yes11:23
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`pauloh11:26
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`paulso kate really doesnt require KDE?11:26
spolasox (installed in synaptic) has been built without mp3 support, is there anyway i can get a version that does support mp3's?11:26
`pauldo you know of any good php/c++ editors that supports SSH?11:27
apokryphos`paul: it does' kate is *in* kde11:27
spolasomeone should build a guerilla ubuntu with all the stuff that has been left out for legal reasons11:27
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bob2`paul: it does, but apt will automatically install whatever bits kate needs11:28
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prasys|laptopcan i know , where is x-chat is located , so I can create a shoutcut , i just used kynaptic for it11:28
scanwinderbob2: is wifiradar in the ubuntu repositories?11:29
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apokryphosprasys|laptop: the executable is in /usr/bin/11:29
aftertafprasys|laptop:  can't kypantic tell you where the file is?11:29
bob2scanwinder: no idea11:29
bob2I use kismet and netapplet11:29
bob2not that netapplet actually works, at all11:29
aftertaf!info wifiradar11:29
aftertaf[DF2] :  yo :) how goes it ?11:30
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prasysthanks a lot11:30
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franco64how can u ntotally uninstall an application without going to synaptic manager, is there a unix command to do this11:32
bob2sudo aptitude purge blah11:33
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franco64the reason why is the synaptic still leaves files behind and i need to do a totally fresh install11:33
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bob2that sounds unlikely11:34
aftertafsynaptic has a total purge option...11:34
bob2perhaps you didn't tell synaptic to purge the package in question11:34
apokryphos"Complete Removal"11:34
^ChRiS^^I get this error when I try to install xmms The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to glib-config. configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first11:34
franco64i did i asked for a total uninstall and all assosiations and still still kept files there11:34
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franco64oh and bob2 thanks11:35
aftertafchris: you using sorece tarballs or apt?11:35
^ChRiS^^tarballs11:35
bob2^ChRiS^^: so, you're all wrong to begin with; why are you installing xmms from source to begin with?11:35
^ChRiS^^..thats what it said?11:36
franco64still left files there in /usr/lib/gdesklets11:36
aftertafok....11:36
aftertafchris... type sudo apt-get install xmms11:36
aftertafitll manage the dependencies itself.11:37
franco64i can manually delete them but i really would like the system to delete the files and any files that i might miss11:37
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^ChRiS^^ok then what11:39
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^ChRiS^^ha nm11:40
aftertafchris, did it finish without an error?11:40
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nfinitep1astikso much fuss for a reg'd nick11:41
^ChRiS^^Yeah, ty.11:43
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nfinitep1astikgg nickserv11:45
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nfinitep1astiksucks to be whoever got the b00t11:46
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z|banditoi have ubuntu installed on this box, and it seems to be playing sound effects triggered by gnome ok, but when I try and use the CD player or the internet radio it seems to be all garbled.  any ideas?11:53
nfinitep1astikz|bandito: do you have alsa enabled?11:54
CaiN_SAnfinitep1astik,11:54
CaiN_SAobviously he does11:54
CaiN_SAgnomes sounds plays11:54
CaiN_SAand if alsa wasnt enabled11:54
CaiN_SAthe sound would not have came out garbled11:55
CaiN_SAthere wouldnt have been any at all11:55
nfinitep1astikCaiN_SA: actually, i had that same problem on my box, and ALSA wasn't enabled11:55
nfinitep1astikCaiN_SA: nasty esound was enabled11:55
CaiN_SAerm11:55
CaiN_SAlook11:55
CaiN_SAoss in kernel isnt used anymore11:56
CaiN_SAthus also is now in kernel11:56
seliniumCaiN_SA: surely if he had any off the other sound server running he would get sound. OSS deosn't support mutil threaded sound11:56
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Digiswhere can I report bugs in breezy?11:59
Digishttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?12:00
nfinitep1astikDigis:what kind of bug are you experiencing?12:02
Digisin breezy, emu10k1, by default is enabled to digital output,  so there is no sound in it, I think it should be enabled to analog output12:03
youngcoderwhat dir is samba.log in?12:03
aftertaf!find12:03
z|banditohow do i check if alsa is enabled?  or esound?12:04
youngcoderi did a whereis12:04
aftertaffind / -name samba.log12:04
aftertafi think...12:04
Digisnfinitep1astik, so?12:04
nfinitep1astikDigis: well, i wouldn't quite consider that a bug then ^^;;12:04
youngcoderaftertaf, that didnt work12:05
nfinitep1astikz|bandito: preferences and multimedia12:05
Digisnfinitep1astik, well I understant that, but, I think by default ubuntu should play sounds, and its not12:05
aftertafman find :)12:05
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nfinitep1astikDigis: well, i guess it would depend on your hardware and how ubuntu configures it12:05
aftertafor sudo it first...12:05
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aftertafis it caled samba.log?12:07
Digisnfinitep1astik, I have audigy 1 sound card, and ubuntu breezy configures it incorrectly,  I have never experienced this problem in hoary12:08
ubuntUserhello:I've got 12.GHz and 256MB RAM, i installed hoary, and my system is slow in some cases (ex. when I open 3 firefoxes) top shows that then my ram is about 3MB free. If I buy more RAM will I get system speed up?12:08
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spolaanyone has the ubuntusetup script from downloads.forums.....? it refuses to resolve here :/12:08
gwilymDoes anyone know a way to arrange things so that, from either windows or ubuntu, I can choose what the default boot option will be next time?12:08
ubuntUser1.2GHZ;] 12:08
nfinitep1astikgwilym: change your options on your boot loader, but you'll need a little knowledge12:08
aftertafubuntulog:  haveyou setup a swap partiton?12:08
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aftertafyoungcoder:  check /etc/samba12:09
mitzkriegfor installing a multi disc game, the wiki says to use the -monitor-cdrom-eject option. how do i enable this?12:09
mitzkriegor check to see if it's enabled12:10
nfinitep1astikDigis: hmmm....as far as i know, i dont think creative supports anything else than windows...and by configures it incorrectly, it just enables the digital output?12:10
gwilymnfinitep1astik: I'd like to be able to toggle between the two easily, so that the next boot after ubuntu is windows, but the next after windows is ubuntu, or similar: it's a remote machine. I've set the menu.lst at the moment to go into windows - is there an easy way to change it from in windows?12:10
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v1ru5My mouse prevents Gnome from launching! How can i fix it? :/12:11
Digisnfinitep1astik, yes it enables the digital output, and disables analog output, so I must enable analog ouput manually, and I think itis confusing for unexperienced user, to change in alsamixer12:11
nfinitep1astikgwilym: i haven't heard of something like that nor how sure it how possible that would be....the boot script usually remains static, unless you're able to modify ntldr dynamically...which i doubt x.x12:12
robotgeekv1ru5: still having that problem?12:12
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v1ru5robotgeek: yep.12:13
z|banditoinput is oss, output is ESD... i should try alsa?12:13
robotgeekv1ru5: it's a usb right?12:13
nfinitep1astikDigis: and i agree, but that's part of the beauty of linux...asking quesions to annoy everyone else =D12:13
z|banditothanks for the help, btw :)12:13
v1ru5robotgeek: yep, logitech, usb and optical12:13
nfinitep1astikz|bandito: yes, switch to alsa12:13
robotgeekv1ru5: for how much time does it hang in there?12:14
kandoora_let's say i don't have connection to the internet, but i wanna install an application. how do i go about it, do i download the source code or the deb or the rpm, what do i do then12:14
v1ru5robotgeek: for what i have waited, more than 6 hours12:14
v1ru5robotgeek: how long exactly, i cannot know12:14
mitzkriegcan anyone tell a newb how to enable -monitor-cdrom-eject option for a multi disc game installation?12:14
v1ru5could be +20, +48, +90012:15
nfinitep1astikkandoora_: you dont even have to do that, just apt-get install *program name*12:15
Digisnfinitep1astik, well nobody helped me, I found the solution on some other distros forum, so I think its quite tricky for a newbie, so U think I should report this as a some bug?12:15
nfinitep1astikkandoora_: just make sure you add sudo beforehand ^.~12:15
Digisor I shouldnt?12:15
nfinitep1astikDigis: you could always try, no harm in pushing the idea forward12:15
gwilymthanks nfinitep1astik - probably best to do it manually then. Cheerio12:16
kandoora_nfinitep1astik: so the line should be sudo apt-get install inkscape12:16
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nfinitep1astikkandoora_: then do that in your terminal12:16
robotgeekv1ru5: just asking, that's all. it's really really weird12:16
LaserLineGuys, will I notice and diffrence between 8MB and 16MB buffer on a 5400RPM HD (40GB) laptop drive on a P3-600 and 256RAM12:16
LaserLineit's a laptop12:16
v1ru5robotgeek: tell me about it :/12:17
v1ru5robotgeek: annoying as **** too12:17
kandoora_nfinitep1astik: but what should the program be .deb .rpm or source code12:17
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meta!getty12:17
ubotumeta: Are you smoking crack?12:17
v1ru5robotgeek: any workaround from this??12:17
nfinitep1astikkandoora_: rpms are red hat, and unless you can compile your code, then deb it is....but when you install through apt (aptitude) you dont need to worry about that12:17
aftertaf!info getty12:17
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robotgeekv1ru5: it's only gnome and not any other environment like fluxbox or so?12:18
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nfinitep1astikkandoora_: if you can bring it up through apt-get, browse synaptic and see if you can find it there12:18
nfinitep1astikcant*12:18
ubuntUsercan anyon help me?12:18
ubuntUser;] 12:18
mitzkriegcan anyone tell a newb how to enable -monitor-cdrom-eject option for a multi disc game installation?12:18
v1ru5robotgeek: i do not know12:19
robotgeekv1ru5: can u try that? do a apt-get install fluxbox, and see if it's a gnome problem12:19
nfinitep1astikmitzkrieg: although i haven't installed a multi-cd game, it just sounds like a command, more than an option you enable12:20
kandoora_nfinitep1astik: so what if i go through synaptic and don't find it there, or it ain't the latest version then what do i do?12:20
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v1ru5robotgeek: ok12:20
nfinitep1astikkandoora_: you're pretty much SOL if you cant google it or just find it somewhere on the web12:20
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kandoora_nfinitep1astik: can i msg u pls.?12:21
LaserLineWill I notice and diffrence between 8MB and 16MB buffer on a 5400RPM HD (40GB) laptop drive on a P3-600 and 256RAM ?12:21
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nfinitep1astikkandoora_: sure12:21
v1ru5robotgeek: it won't override Gnome by default, right?12:21
robotgeekv1ru5: no, you will be able to select it from gdm12:21
v1ru5robotgeek: nice feature considering that i don't even know what gdm is :)12:22
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robotgeekv1ru5: okay, gdm is basically the login screen u see if you logout12:23
v1ru5robotgeek: ok.. i downloaded it12:23
ibitoxhi12:23
thesaltydogjust upgraded breezy from hoary. I am experiencing a huge performance loss... What am I missing?12:23
v1ru5robotgeek: how do i launch it?12:23
ibitoxcan someone help me? with my riptide sound card12:23
phrizerhm, this might seem odd, but, how can i access samba shares from the standard 'open' dialog boxes, like in xchats dcc send? I can access them though the 'network servers' tool and create an icon on the desktop that opens it.12:23
v1ru5robotgeek: startx -something?12:23
thesaltydog40 seconds to open an openoffice document12:23
robotgeekv1ru5: how do u generally login12:23
thesaltydog8 seconds to open the terminal..12:24
v1ru5robotgeek: it launches up gnome automatically12:24
ibitoxanyone?12:24
robotgeekv1ru5: from the login screen, if you use it, select session as fluxbox and login12:24
v1ru5ibitox: CHECK THE TOPIC12:25
v1ru5ibitox: esp. the second paragraph ;)12:25
v1ru5robotgeek: umm, i have no idea what you are talking about12:25
v1ru5robotgeek: i have only gnome login screen12:25
v1ru5robotgeek: and console login "screen"12:25
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ibitoxI seems not to work, I try to install drivers but it doesnt install12:26
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robotgeekv1ru5: okay, let's try and fix that for you.12:26
z|bandito'failed to construct test pipeline for alsa'12:26
robotgeekv1ru5: you are on another machine right?12:26
LaserLineWhat's the diffrence between 'locate' and 'slocate' ?12:28
robotgeekv1ru5: get to the console login, then go to "cd /etc/gdm/sessions". there will be a default script there. follow me till here?12:28
robotgeekv1ru5: btw, there should also be a "failsafe gnome" login in there screen. did u try that?12:28
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cafuegoLaserLine: slocate ought to only find _your_ files12:31
ibitoxanyone again?12:32
Juhazthere is no difference12:32
robotgeekcafuego: how do i get the underline?12:32
LaserLinecafuego so what should i add to my cron.daily ? slocate or locate ?12:32
cafuegorobotgeek: _underscore_ on both sides of teh word, irc client does the interpreting.12:33
robotgeekcafuego: ah, _neat_12:33
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cafuegoLaserLine: locate should already be running12:33
cafuegorobotgeek: indeed12:33
robotgeekv1ru5: u there?12:33
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robotgeekcafuego: thanks, one more thing learned today :)12:34
cafuegoLaserLine: if you need search options, have a look at beagle.12:34
LaserLinecafuego how can i check that ? where to look ?12:34
LaserLinecafuego (about locate)12:34
v1ru5robotgeek: having my breakfast, i'll be back in a bit :)12:34
cafuegoLaserLine: 'rgrep updatedb /etc'12:34
cafuegoLaserLine: 'updatedb' updates the 'locate' database.12:35
robotgeekv1ru5: okay, i might leave in another 15-20 minutes, so try the failsafe login if i am not here!12:35
robotgeekcafuego: would you know how memory/cpu intensive beagle is?12:35
LaserLinecufuego Ok, in what conf file would I see if locate is running ?12:35
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cafuegorobotgeek: The initial index made my AMD64 1.8GHz with 1 GB ram do quite a lot of poo.12:36
robotgeekcafuego: okay, find with grep works great :)12:36
robotgeeki will have to stick to that!12:36
cafuegoLaserLine: /etc/cron.daily/find12:36
cafuegorobotgeek: Now that it's all indexed, finding stuff is immediate12:37
LaserLinecafuego I only have a file named: 'find.notslocate12:37
cafuegoLaserLine: Umculiar.12:37
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LaserLinecafuego and i have anotherone 'slocate'12:38
robotgeekcafuego: u are getting me hooked, u evil man :)12:38
cafuegothen yours is probably using slocate12:38
cafuegorobotgeek: well, the alternative is running OSX with Spotlight12:38
LaserLinecafuego what time daily does it work ?12:38
robotgeekcafuego: nah, i'll just keep my stuff organised, my poor 500 mhz machine may not be able to handle it.12:39
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InitMasshow do i test if my proftpd works?12:39
cafuegoLaserLine: 7:30 am12:39
VirtuallInitMass, launch it and ftp://localhost ?12:40
v1ru5robotgeek: back12:40
LaserLinecafuego is there a way to change the time ? what happens if the laptop is closed at that time... ?12:40
InitMassVirtuall, but if i want to test if external users can access it?12:40
v1ru5robotgeek: should i shutdown gnome (how?) before running that failsafe?12:40
robotgeekv1ru5: logout, (i hope u are on a different machine!) and then select failsafe gnome from the sessions popup (i think f10)12:41
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VirtuallInitMass, ftp://your.ip12:41
v1ru5robotgeek: i am on that machine12:41
v1ru5robotgeek: the one with the problems12:41
robotgeekv1ru5: okay, then i guess u'll have to leave and come back12:42
Virtuallor tell me your IP and i'll try it :)12:42
v1ru5robotgeek: well this irssi isn't on that box :P12:42
robotgeekv1ru5: phew :)12:42
v1ru5robotgeek: i'm connecting to a remote box to IRC with ssh12:42
robotgeekv1ru5: same here :)12:42
v1ru5so umm, logout? how? lol12:43
v1ru5i mean, gnome just stands there, without anything displaying but the mouse cursor12:43
InitMassVirtuall, doesn't seem to work for external users but it does to me12:43
robotgeekkill by ctrl + alt +del12:43
v1ru5pressed ctrl + alt + del, nothing happens12:44
nfinitep1astiklol12:44
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v1ru5pressed ctrl + alt + del 3 times more, nothing happens12:45
nfinitep1astikwhat process are you trying to kill?12:45
VirtuallInitMass, hmm it may be listening on 127.0.0.1 orit might be your firewall. have one?12:45
robotgeekv1ru5: damn, it's hung pretty bad. so, maybe a hard reboot?12:45
InitMassVirtuall, yes i'm using firestarter and have opened port 20-2112:45
v1ru5robotgeek: but then it launches up it again!12:46
v1ru5robotgeek: and hungs again12:46
v1ru5o_O12:46
VirtuallInitMass, check if it's not listening on 127.0.0.112:46
Virtuallsee proftpd.conf12:47
robotgeekv1ru5: u have gnome to boot up automatically without logging in?12:47
v1ru5yep12:47
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DrajkaSo.. Where might I get a software firewall for Ubuntu. ;)12:48
franco64just use firestarter12:48
robotgeekokay, let gnome boot up without your mouse connected, then connect your mouse later.select to not login automatically (for now)12:48
v1ru5robotgeek: but i'll boot and try to unplug the mouse and try to get gnome working that way and i'll disable it12:48
v1ru5yep12:48
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v1ru5brb12:48
franco64drajka : firestarter12:48
DrajkaO.o ok12:48
InitMassVirtuall, do you know where i should look in the proftpd.conf? i can't find anything about 127.0.0.112:49
Drajka......12:49
DrajkaI kep getting this error when I try to install things.12:49
DrajkaE: locales:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 412:49
franco64Drajka: apt-get install firestarter12:50
franco64what's the error messages12:50
Drajka......12:50
DrajkaI just posted it12:50
nfinitep1astiklol12:50
cafuegorobotgeek: Just reindexing now, load is 4 after a minute12:51
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nfinitep1astikDrajka: what are you running?12:51
Drajka... Ubuntu?12:51
franco64have u tried doing a dist upgrade12:52
nfinitep1astikDrajka: ^^;;....your kernal?12:52
VirtuallInitMass, ;( if it hasn't any address there, it's probably default. and default is 0.0.0.0 afaik. so /me gives up12:52
nfinitep1astikkernel*12:52
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Drajkax86_6412:53
nfinitep1astikDrajka: so the k7? or the 64 bit?12:53
gn0meHmm.. takes like 5 minutes for my gnome to load, freezes at the default brown background after the GDM..12:53
Drajka64bit..12:53
nfinitep1astikDrajka: i have the amd 64 also, but i have to run k7 otherwise....so you install the 64 bit originally?12:54
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Drajkayes..12:54
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robotgeekcafuego: :)12:54
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DrajkaIt's just recently that this problem happpened12:54
robotgeekv1ru5: alrite, i gotta go and take driving test now. cya later!12:54
v1ru5./12:55
nfinitep1astikDrajka: what's changed since the last time you tried to install something?12:55
agent86ianHi everyone, New to linux and have a couple of questions.12:55
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Drajkanothing12:55
sepmikehi guys12:56
Drajkait must have been one of the things i installed12:56
Drajkai installed a bunch of updates12:56
Drajkaand then suddenly I'm getting the error12:56
Drajkathen again12:56
DrajkaI haven't tried restarting ubuntu yet12:56
nfinitep1astikthat might work12:56
sepmikedoes anyone have some time to answer a few laptop  installation questions?12:56
nfinitep1astikagent86ian, sepmike: ask away12:56
sepmikethanks12:56
sepmikeI have a pcg-fx104 vaio12:57
sepmikehad to install with acpi=no12:57
sepmikeand now of course I can't get pcmcia to run12:57
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nfinitep1astikand you probably wont12:57
nfinitep1astikwhy couldn't you enable acpi?12:57
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sepmikeit hung on boot at acpi: subsystem revisions .....12:58
sepmikewhen I went to install12:58
agent86ianI have a Nvidia FX 5200 video card and the LCD monitor is running at the native resolution of 1280 x 1024 but the fonts are blurry. I have fiddled arround with the fonts settings but it is not sharp like it is in Windows XP Any clues?12:58
sepmikething is it shows the netgear pcmcia wifi card in the devices12:59
sepmikebut i can't get it to run12:59
sepmikeI know this wifi card works cause I have ubunutu on an other laptop using the same card12:59
sepmikeany ideas?12:59
Drajkaw0w.. katomic is fun.12:59
DrajkaSo how can I restart01:00
DrajkaDo I have to do a complete reboot01:00
Drajkaor can I just do ctrl+alt+ backspace or somethin01:00
Drajkag01:00
Drajka:P01:00
nfinitep1astiksepmike: and it's the exact setup? what is the difference in laptops?01:00
nfinitep1astikDrajka: you can type init 5 in your terminal01:01
sepmikeyeah the other one is old compaq armada 7400  p2 36601:01
Drajkakk01:01
sepmikethis vaio is a p3 70001:01
Drajkabye then.. maybe01:01
Drajka<.<01:01
nfinitep1astikDrajka: or simply select 'logout' and 'restart the computer'01:01
nfinitep1astiksepmike: rofl, well, good to know the armada is still kicking01:01
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sepmikeyeah it runs just fine, i use it as a client terminal so it serves its purpose01:02
sepmikebut I'd like to get the vaio running with wifi01:02
nfinitep1astikagent86ian: sometimes you'll run into trouble that ubuntu doesn't have the same driver support, if any, like windows does01:02
sepmikenever thought I'd have trouble installing it tho :(01:02
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nfinitep1astiksepmike: you might want to check to see if there's an updated pcmcia driver you could install01:03
agent86ianWhere would I look for Nvidia drivers for linux? Then I have to work out how to install :-)01:03
silvanhi - im supposed to mute all IEC* channels in order to get sound working but no IEC* channel is showing up in alsamixer - any ideas?01:03
aftertaf!tell agent86ian about nvidia01:03
nfinitep1astikagent86ian: unfortuatenly, nvidia doesn't share the wonder for the GNU license like everyone else, so closed drivers are a bit difficult to get a hold of01:04
agent86ianWindows XP Pro SP2 did not detect my Intel onboard Lan 1G but Ubuntu had no problems.01:04
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aftertafsilvan:  try aumix or aumix-gtk01:04
agent86ianWhat brand of card do you recommend? I have a spare ATI Radeon Hang on I will get the number.01:05
nfinitep1astikagent86ian: then just use that, ATI has much better support in linux01:05
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nfinitep1astikDrajka: wb01:05
prasys|laptopdoes anyone knows any good x-chat sysinfo script for ubuntu01:05
DrajkaThanks :)01:05
sepmikecardctl status says ... socket 1: 3.3v cardbux card function 0: [ready] 01:06
agent86ianAre they standard or will I have to get drivers and install?01:06
sepmike*cardbus01:06
phrizerhm, how does gnome store its menus?01:06
silvanaftertaf: no iec* either01:06
nfinitep1astikagent86ian: gotta find the drivers ^.^01:06
sepmikeso it's detected the card is inserted01:06
prasys|laptopndiswrapper will do the trick for you , for cardbus/wifi01:06
siimophrizer, /usr/share/applications/01:07
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aftertafsilvan:  hmm i have seen them once on debian, cant remember where tho.01:07
silvanaftertaf: pressing f2 in alsamixer lists iec channels as output of /proc01:07
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VoXis there something wrong with cdimage.ubuntulinux.org? i'm on a 10mbit link and i'm getting a whopping 10k/sec01:07
spiritzis there anyone running breezy and kde that could share his sources.list please?01:08
Seveasspiritz: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:08
nfinitep1astikagent86ian: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=2701:08
Seveasspiritz, just replace every occurence of hoary with breezy01:08
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phrizersiimo,  what about per user menus?01:09
siimophrizer, that would be the same as default gnome maybe somewhere in ~/.gnome201:10
VoXi'm guessing thats a "dont know" then01:10
spiritzSeveas: thanks01:10
nfinitep1astikVoX: trying pinging it01:11
agent86ianThanks everyone. I will do some reading.01:11
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VoX~600ms01:11
nfinitep1astiktry pinging somewhere you know is fast01:11
VoXhmm01:12
VoXsome weird routing going on i think01:12
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phrizersiimo, how can i add menus?01:12
phrizeror rather, menu items.01:13
VoXare there any other breezey iso repositries? i dont much feel like waiting 16hours for this to download..01:14
nfinitep1astikVoX: you have bittorrent?01:15
nfinitep1astikVoX: http://www.torrentz.com/t.php?id=18848401:15
VoXnfi: nay01:15
VoXi'm currently using a somewhat-crippled debian sid install01:15
VoXwhich i cant get running right on my amd6401:15
VoXhence why i want to go to ubuntu01:16
nfinitep1astikdid you install the 64 version?01:16
siimophrizer, theres a menu editor look on ubuntu forums01:16
VoXnfinitep1astik: yeah01:16
nfinitep1astikfunny, i have the 64 bit proc too and i had a few problems installing the 64bit version myself, i just went back to the 386 and updated to the k7 kernel01:16
VoXah i've got the kernel sorted, just having issues with xorg mainly01:17
nfinitep1astikcant get x to start?01:17
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VoXit kinda starts. i get the nvidia logo.. then it goes back to cli.. then back to the logo.. etc.. then craps itself.01:18
VoXso x is starting01:18
VoXit just wont initiate gdm01:18
nfinitep1astikdid you try to install the glx drivers?01:18
VoXyeah, done that01:18
nfinitep1astikdid you have problems right after you installed the glx drivers?01:19
VoXnah01:19
hansderis there a way to mount nrg,iso,cue,bin.. images on gnome... like 'mount iso image' for kde (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577)01:19
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nfinitep1astikyou could try editing your xorg.conf back to the default driver and get back into x01:19
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VoXwell sorta. i couldnt use the stock debian kernel, as the nvidia drivers conflicted with riva in the stock kernel, so i conf'd my own kernel(2.6.12), built the nvidia modules, installed them.. and it hasnt worked yet01:20
nfinitep1astikhave you tried just switching back to the default driver?01:21
nfinitep1astikand uninstalling glx?01:21
VoXnfinitep1astik: it's nvidia. it wont work without the nvidia drivers01:21
nfinitep1astikyes it can ^.^01:22
VoX?01:22
nfinitep1astikor probably you didn't change your driver setting in your xorg.conf01:22
nfinitep1astikjust nano it up and look for the model of your video card01:22
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VoXnano?01:22
nfinitep1astikit's a text editor01:23
VoXah01:23
hansderhow do i forcefully end a process?01:23
gn0meTakes like 5 minutes for my gnome to load, freezes at the default brown background after the GDM.. I tried deleting the ~/.gnome and .gnome2 dirs.. thinking it might be something it's trying to load.. Only X log errors are saying that it can't find some font dirs, so I don't think that's the case..01:23
nfinitep1astikhansder: pkill *process name*01:23
hansderthx01:23
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hansdernfinitep1astik, pkill doesnt work process still running :(01:25
nfinitep1astikhansder: what are you trying to kill?01:25
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SmegzorI have been trying to get a vnc server working without success.  I want to do the remote desktop thing but with a virtual desktop, not the one on the host's screen.01:26
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seliniumhansder: some processes are un-interruptable like dd01:26
SmegzorIs this possible?01:26
DeterministSmegzor: you can use GDM over VNC... that way you wont have to use an open session01:26
hansder'python' i cant kill it with the task manager either01:26
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DeterministSmegzor: meaning no user would have to be logged in to allow for connections to be made01:27
Smegzorah so the answer is NO it cannot be done :(01:27
hansderselinium, and its using up to 90% of my cpu ressources01:27
DeterministSmegzor: actually... yes, it can be done01:27
Smegzora virtual desktop?  NOT the desktop of the currently logged in user?01:27
DeterministSmegzor: i just have no idea how exactly since i've never tried, but i'm sure it can be done with a certain amount of tweaking01:28
Smegzormy hunting around the net suggests a LOT of tweaking :(  I'm a Windows user which doesn't help :)01:28
DeterministSmegzor: like i said, GDM over VNC = connecting under a NEW session, not requiring a user to be logged in. works similiar to RDP on W2k machines01:28
Smegzorwhere can I find some info about setting that up?01:29
SmegzorI need some instructions I can follow.01:29
DeterministSmegzor: easy, gimme a sec, i'll post a link01:29
Smegzorthanks01:29
DeterministSmegzor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4294101:30
Smegzorthis is the last big thing I haven't got working in my new installation.  I was using another debian before this and never had this much trouble.01:30
Smegzorthanks01:30
DeterministSmegzor: np mate, good luck. that has worked for me quite well btw :)01:30
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rouvenmoinmoin.01:31
Smegzor:) if this works, the wife can use HER new linux box and I can fiddle with it without unseating her or stealing her mouse :)01:31
Deterministbbiab01:31
Smegzorhmm..  I enabled all? the universe repositories yet there is no vnc4server in my package lists :(01:33
SmegzorI think I know where I stuffed up :)01:33
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DeterministSmegzor: any luck so far?01:36
Gorth-Does Ubuntu respecet the preferences file in apt?01:37
Smegzorworking on it..  slowly.  at another comp :)  I am defiling this chatroom by using Windows at it :)01:37
SmegzorI'll be a while..01:37
Gorth-I can't seem to make it default to hoary01:37
Gorth-isn't the syntax APT::Default-Release "hoary"; ?01:37
hansderis there a way to mount nrg,iso,cue,bin.. images on gnome... like 'mount iso image' for kde (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577)01:38
Smegzorhmm..  i don't understand why vnc4server is not showing up when I search the package manager for it.  I have all the universe repositories enabled etc.01:39
Smegzormaybe I need to grab it directly off a website?01:39
bimberiSmegzor: are you on i386?01:39
Smegzor64bit01:40
Smegzordoes that answer you?  Its a new motherboard with an AMD64 in it.01:40
aftertafhansder:  you asked that before right?01:40
bimberiSmegzor: yes it does...01:41
bimberiSmegzor: i'm only sure that it's available for i38601:41
Smegzorhmm..  i'll try to find its maintainer website.  see what I can find out there..01:41
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Smegzorthere is a downloadable package for ia64..  what is that?01:42
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daakuanyone know if its possible to use a linksys wireless router by connecting it to the internet using a wireless connection?01:43
bimberiSmegzor: try searching at http://packages.ubuntu.com01:43
sepmikeyes daaku if you have enabled remote access01:44
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BurgerMannHow do you edit user groups in a shell?01:45
Smegzorrats.  ia64 is for powerpc aka.  Mac01:45
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persiaBurgerMann: `sudo vi /etc/group`01:45
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jinrohxsane 0.9.6, ubuntu 5.0.4, Problem - xsane will not recogonize my scanner.  It only see my tv card.  If I run xsane as root the scanner is recognize; but, xsane recommends that you don't run as root.  My user is a member of the scanner group. Does anyone have any ideas how to correct this problem?01:46
BurgerMannpersia, thx01:46
daakusepmike: i guess i should explain more: i have 2 wireless routers, far away, need to connect one to the other so i have wired access at both places (so sort of make one router a client of the other)01:46
bimberiSmegzor: I wonder if it works with the basic vncserver?01:47
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Smegzori tried that.  I get "failed to connect to server"01:48
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perseo_piHow can I list the partitions?01:48
Smegzorqtparted?01:48
bimberiperseo_pi: sudo fdisk -l01:49
perseo_pithanks01:49
sepmikeoh daaku dunno about that01:50
ralphAm I right in thinking Ubuntu bugzilla bugs don't get much attention whilst they're `unconfirmed'?01:51
Smegzorthis might not work.  I have downloaded vnc4server (the i386 version) and I want to try to install it on my ubuntu64.  I have the .deb package on my desktop.  What do I do now?  I'm a Windows user :)01:52
apokryphosralph: I'm sad to say that several bugs I reported didn't get much attention at all in the past.01:53
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ralphThere seems to be plenty of bugs that are easy to confirm by a 3rd party but that isn't happening.  I was wondering if something like `kernel janitor/newbies' existed to help with the first round of ubuntu bug analysis.01:54
bimberiSmegzor: i don't know if it will install but if you want to try: sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb01:54
Smegzorthanks01:54
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Smegzornah it won't because my computer is too awesome for it :)  Its a pity that i386 won't work on amd6401:56
SmegzorI'll have to wait for the world to catch up..01:56
ralphTake bug 12168, spelling mistakes in the aspell British English dictionary.  Easy for a B.E. speaker to confirm it's a bug.  But it just sits at unconfirmed as release 5.10 draws nearer.  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1216801:57
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ralphI realise the people fixing the bugs are too busy to confirm them, that's why I wondered if there's a community effort to do so.  People that are too busy to help out apart from the odd five minutes could easy confirm a bug or two a day;  or explain why they're not bugs.01:58
bimberiSmegzor: my crossed fingers didn't work then :(01:59
scumboSmegzor, you might be able to find a built amd64 .deb built for debian01:59
Smegzorone will turn up eventually.  I'll live with sliding across the desk to the other pc in the meantime.  its such a trial.  It just means I'll have to shoo the wife off to do "important" maintenance stuff.02:01
ralphOr bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14542 about a bug in printf() comes with a simple C test program anyone can try in order to get it out of unconfirmed state.02:01
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seliniumHi all, I am pretty new to this compiling from source stuff. I have compiled a deb for gambas_1.0.8 and it all looked fine.02:02
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PuffballHow do you enable the root account?02:03
seliniumBut now on install it says dpkg: error processing /home/james/src/gambas-1.0.8/gambas_1.0.8-1_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gbi', which is also in package gambas-runtime02:03
thenukePuffball: why isn't sudo enough :(02:03
thenukePuffball: sudo passwd02:03
seliniumAny ideas anyone?02:04
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ralphselinium: apt-get remove gambas-runtime ?02:05
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persiaSmegzor: I don't know if it would be compatible with the method described on the wiki, but I used to use tightvncserver to echo a new desktop to export a desktop, and there is a README.inetd in the package that demonstrates another method...02:05
seliniumralph: i will give it a go!02:05
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seliniumralph: it is not installed. :)02:06
SmegzorI'm playing with tightvncserver.  it can't find my fonts at the moment..02:06
Smegzori'm a bit lost as to what to do about that.02:07
Puffballthenuke: 'sudo' never really works, it prompts for the root password, which was never set during the install.02:08
scumboselinium, if you're brave you could try the --force-conflict on your dpkg line02:08
thenukePuffball: it does not ask for root pass02:08
seliniumscumbo: what does that do?02:08
thenukePuffball: would that not be a bit stupid if using root was forbidden :)02:08
thenukePuffball: so you could not install anything to your own OS and so on ;)02:09
Puffballwell, I have to edit /etc/host, which is owened by root.02:09
thenukePuffball: did you already figure it out :) it asks for YOUR password02:09
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scumboselinium, it allows one package's files to overwrite anothers (which is your immediate problem)02:09
Puffballthenuke: I've tried everything. Seriously. I've used my password, no password, and all combinations of that, and GNOME will not work correctly unless I add my hostname to /etc/host, which can't be modified unless I use the root account.02:10
seliniumscumbo: Oh, but i do not have gambas-runtime installed, so it should be ok? right?02:10
thenukePuffball: sudo passwd definately asks for your passwd too02:11
thenukePuffball: so you cannot then even activate the root account itself02:11
Puffballthenuke: As in, none of the System Tools will start. I'm prompted with a GNOME messaging at boot saying I need to edit /etc/host or the environment may not work properly.02:11
scumboselinium, not sure.  There's something wrong.  What do you get if you do a02:11
PuffballHmm02:11
scumbodpkg -S gambas ?? (S == Search)02:12
seliniumscumbo: not found02:13
seliniumscumbo: nor gambas-runtime02:13
thenukePuffball: try reinstalling02:13
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viceshow do i get some presets for xmmms's equalizer?02:13
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thenukePuffball: sounds like bad-install to me if it does not work out of the box02:14
youngcoderhow do i find my netBIOS name of my windows computer?02:14
scumboselinium, your package directory must be in some sort of inconsistent state, but it sounds like it'd be OK to use the force flag.02:15
Puffballthenuke: this is my third install, it always does this :/02:15
thenukePuffball: tried different media?02:15
thenukeyour install-cd might be bad02:15
PuffballI used the CDs I got from Ubuntu's ShipIt system.02:16
seliniumscumbo: i have found that on un-installing gambas_1.0.0 it left a load of other packages. I will remove them and see what happens first. Dont want to break my machine just yet!02:16
thenukePuffball: btw, paste your /etc/hosts to me with a priv message02:16
Smegzorif I want to find out anything about my computer, I run Everest Home Edition. (windows) its free.  I don't know if it will tell you want you want though.02:16
osfameronPuffball: doesn't mean there won't be a problem :-)02:16
thenukePuffball: have you tried the livecd?02:16
osfameronI ended up getting my colleague to burn one on a x2 setting, which worked02:16
scumboselinium, did you include the purge flag when you uninstalled?02:17
Puffballthenuke: I'm booted into Windows, because I'm doing a dual boot, and I can't configure my wifi card in Ubuntu.02:17
thenukePuffball: roger.02:17
seliniumscumbo: yep, but it left lots of gambas-* files. they are on there way out now!02:18
thenukePuffball: well, you should try to boot the liveCD sometime too to see if it gives you the same error which I doubt it would..02:18
thenukePuffball: then it would be most certain that the install-cd is broken02:18
PuffballAh02:18
PuffballAlright, thanks02:18
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scumboselinium, dropping left behind from before doesn't explain why dpkg knew which package they were associated with.  Something dodgy's going on there.02:19
seliniumscumbo: After uninstalling the gambas-* files, it installed fine... Strange!02:21
scumboselinium, ah well.  Just call it a "Windows moment" and move on :-)02:21
seliniumscumbo: not just yet... It cant find it to execute it...02:22
Puffballthenuke: in the installation, would keeping the hostname blank help?02:22
seliniumscumbo it is showing as installed on synaptic... strange!02:22
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seliniumscumbo maybe I need to +x the file?02:23
thenukePuffball: really doubt that, cant you download and burn the install c?02:23
Puffballthenuke: thats what the third install was :P02:23
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thenukeah ok02:23
thenukethen this is a bit too weird for me :)02:23
scumboselinium, shouldn't need a +x.  What do you see if you do a dpkg --listfiles <pkg-name>?02:23
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Puffballthenuke: I'll set up a windows router to get my Ubuntu installation online, and I'll return the actual /etc/host result in a few.02:24
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BiSK-8hello02:24
scumboselinium, you're looking for the appropriate executable in that list.02:24
BiSK-8can any1 help me with wine?02:24
thenukePuffball: ok02:24
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BiSK-8where do the installed files go with wine?02:25
seliniumscumbo: not installed.....? Aaaargh! :)02:25
GBXtrahi, got a problem after apt update: kernel panic at bootup (Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow_block(3,1))02:25
GBXtradoes anyone know how to fix this02:26
scumboselinium.  Ok, let's recap.  You've built a .deb from source.02:26
podgeBiSK-8, What installed files? The windows programs you installed using Wine?02:26
seliniumscumbo: yep02:26
BiSK-8podge, yes02:26
scumboselinium, you've installed it using "dpkg -i"02:26
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podgeBiSK-8, Check out your .wine directory.. which should be in your homedir..02:27
scumboselinium, and now, dpkg --listfiles says the same package isn't installed?02:27
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glynMy Windows drive went down, how do I enable writing on it from ubuntu?02:27
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seliniumscumbo: yes, but it shows as installed in Synaptic!02:27
BiSK-8podge, i installed the google video viewer, found the installed files and now how do i get it 2 work?02:28
scumboselinium, does synaptic have a list files option? (I don't use synaptic)02:29
mohkohnI am having problems with OpenOffice.org2. My thesaurus is greyed out. How do I install it and get it working? In British English.02:29
seliniumscumbo: i dont usually! trying to learn all the command line stuff.02:29
podgeBiSK-8, Have you read the wine manual? :) I think you do something like..... wine "C:\Program Files\GoogleViewer\gv.exe"  the path will be different for you..02:29
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BiSK-8ok02:30
BiSK-8tks02:30
seliniumYes, i can paste them in the bin. One mo02:30
wickedpuppyanyone knows how to load a bootstrap from grub menu.lst ?02:31
seliniumscumbo: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/182702:32
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scumboselinium, looks kinda odd.  /opt/gambas/bin isn't a usual standard package path.02:33
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seliniumscumbo: I will try and remove it via synaptic.02:34
scumboselinium, if you include /opt/gambas/bin in you shell PATH, you should be able to find gambas.02:34
seliniumscumbo: how would i do that?02:34
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scumboselinium, depends on your shell.  Are you using bash?02:35
seliniumscumbo: yep02:35
bytefoowhich gambas02:35
elverWhen running gcc, why the hell do I get "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory"? Latest Breezy.02:35
scumboselinium, then "PATH=$PATH:/opt/gambas/bin" should do.02:36
scumboselinium, after that, just typing gambas should start the program.02:36
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seliniumscumbo: Strange things are happening to my system, i cant open a nautilus window. I am gonna reboot. c u in 502:38
GBXtradoes noone know a solution?02:38
scumboselinium, OK.02:38
osfameronGBXtra: repost the question - it's not visible on this page :-)02:38
GBXtrahi, got a problem after apt update: kernel panic at bootup (Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow_block(3,1))02:39
elverWhy is GCC in Ubuntu broken?02:39
elverAnd who do I smack to get it working?02:39
GBXtracould have something to do with the kernel update, apt did02:40
GBXtrabtw i am using lilo02:40
osfameronGBXtra: I have no idea myself :-)  but it might be useful to say which version of kernel you upgraded to, in case anyone here knows of a problem with it?02:41
scumboelver, gcc worked for me.02:41
GBXtra2.6.10-5-686 and -36802:42
elverscumbo, right. Why is there no cc1plus on my system?02:42
elverAlso, what package does cc1plus come in? I've tried reinstalling the gcc-related packages, but no luck.02:42
seliniumscumbo: that will teach me for having too many shells open. I have just switched off my remote machine!02:43
scumboelver, it should be part of the base gcc package (I'm in front of Debian right now, ubuntu's on my other disk)02:43
scumboselinium, too many shells?  Never.02:43
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elverscumbo, I've tried reinstalling those. No luck.02:44
elverelver@eudaimonia:~/ut/arvutigraafika/praktikum1$ gcc praktikum1.cpp gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory02:45
scumboelver, have you installed g++?  That's where it is in Debian and there's a good chance it's there in Ubuntu.02:45
seliniumscumbo: Doh, no wonder i was having 'issues' All fine now!02:45
scumboselinium, so what *was* the problem?02:46
elverAck. Why isn't it in the gcc package? >_<02:46
scumboelver, guess it's the C++ part of the compiler package, not plain C.02:46
elver"gcc" usually stands for "gnu compiler collection", emphasis on the "collection" part...02:47
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seliniumscumbo: I believe it was to do with building bits on different machines, not knowing what was installed where and the like. I just uninstalled and reinstalled and it works fine!02:48
scumboelver, I guess that's a package naming thing.  Most people wouldn't want (say) Fortran to be there.02:48
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scumboselinium, glad to hear it's working.  Working with multiple machines at once can mess with your brain.02:50
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seliniumscumbo: it has just occured to me. my remote machine is much quicker than my work station. I think i will do the compiles on that machine. Will that cause any problems?02:52
wickedpuppyanyone knows how to load a bootstrap from grub menu.lst ?02:53
scumboselinium, as usual, it depends.  If you have the same OS on both, compilers, libraries, etc., it'll be OK.  Are you sure you'll need that much speed?02:54
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NoHopehello all02:54
NoHopeubotu tell me about repos02:54
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seliniumscumbo: my work station is an athlon 900, the remote machine is an Athlon 64 3000. I am sure it would be a bit quicker! would it make any difference if the OS was k7 or 636?02:55
spiritzis it possible to use breezy and kde at the same time using kubuntu repositories for kde?02:55
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NoHopespiritz, I see no problem... but it's beta yet, maybe ubuntu experts can tell you.02:56
bytefoo" Are you sure you'll need that much speed?" <-- wow, that question should NEVER be asked. ever.02:56
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spiritzNoHope: Actually I just tried with a dist-upgrade but now I get hundred of unmet dependencies :s02:57
scumboselinium, different kernel or arch won't matter, but unless you're building something big, or often, Athlon 900 will be fast enough.02:57
scumboOh, I've gone and said it again!02:57
bytefoo:P02:57
NoHopespiritz, are you on kubuntu:02:57
bytefoobut you are right ;D02:57
seliniumlol02:58
spiritzNoHope: sort of, I was on hoary then I installed kubuntu-desktop.02:58
NoHopespiritz, same as me. Now you want to use Breezy, right?02:58
seliniumscumbo: cheers for all your help and tips. :)02:58
scumboselinium, no worries.  Have fun.02:59
spiritzNoHope: yep... But each time it messes everything up. What about you ? what are you at?02:59
seliniumwhy did I spend sooo much time with m$02:59
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rouvenhello, all! is there a reason for tetex-extra (which contains koma-script) not being included in ubuntu-desktop in breezy?03:00
osfameronselinium: because you used it at work, it had good apps and tools, and did most of what you wanted it to do ?03:00
NoHopespiritz, I'm under ubuntu. At home (I'm at work now) I have downloaded kubuntu-desktop too, but I really prefer gnome.03:00
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seliniumosfameron: only because i didn't know there was an alternative. I have been programming since getting a BBC Micro 32k first Christmas years ago. No windows there!03:01
spiritzNoHope: Hehe.... ok I see. As far as I am concerned I prefer KDE... although I never really tried gnome.03:01
spiritzNoHope: Under gnome I miss wonderful apps such as amarok akregador etc03:02
osfameronselinium: heh, I loved the BBC micro.  But then again, I also thought Word6 with wordmacros was mindblowing when I first saw it :-)03:03
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NoHopespiritz, you can use qt apps under gnome. I use skype and umbrello sometimes. But sure kde is more beautiful than gnome.03:04
seliniumosfameron: Basic was the first manual i read. IE with out the computer infront of me. I think that was when I resigned myself that I was a bit of a nerd!03:04
spiritzNoHope: if it's more beautiful then why do u prefer gnome?03:04
NoHopespiritz, performance, control.03:05
supernixhas anyone noticed a problem with BBcode in FireFox 1.06 ?03:05
podgeselinium, Amos Basic on the Amiga 500 ruled.. :)03:05
NoHopespiritz, I didn't tried Gtk vs. Qt yet, but Gtk seems better than Qt.03:05
seliniumpodge: I had an amiga later, but i was amazed what a tiny processor and bugger all memory could do!03:06
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osfameronI stayed with Acorn and had an Archimedes (actually an A3000, the cheapo knockoff :-)03:07
podgeselinium, Amiga was 10 years ahead of it's time.. modern day consoles work pretty much the same way as it did.. ie.. custom chips etc..03:07
podgeselinium, I still have my A500 and A1200 upstairs.. I boot them up occassionally for the hell of it..03:08
seliniumpodge: indeed.It managed to get much more out of its lower spec chip.03:08
podgeselinium, Is there a Linux port for the Amiga 68000? :)03:08
Deterministbah, the backports repo on mirrormax is horribly slow :/03:09
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seliniumpodge: I still have my bbc micro somewhere! I remember a friend using the slot in the top for the 'speech chip' as an ashtray! He also piggy backed a chip onto the ram to increase its brain! real low tech stuff! My watch has a bigger procesor!03:10
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podgeselinium, But your watch was never really that much fun... (unless your watch is super cool.. hehe)..03:12
seliniumpodge: nope, i lost countless days trawling the galaxy as commander selinium on Elite!03:12
osfameronthe BBC had the best game ever invented: XOR03:13
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osfameronwhich got ported to PC fairly recently, except without the brilliant music03:13
osfameronwonder if wine will run it...03:13
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seliniumosfameron: elite, chucky egg, fra03:14
osfamerongah, elite was rubbish on Spectrum 48K.  the copy protection was so difficult to use that you'd spend 10 minutes loading it,03:15
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osfameronfail to work out how to use the lens and tuner and then it would crap out.03:15
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osfameronwhat's fra?03:15
podgeselinium, My lost days (when young) were spent playing cartridge games on the Vic 20. GORF being the main addiction.03:15
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thenukeah.. gorf..03:16
podgethenuke, GORF sounds like some strange Unix command.. like awk, sed, grep etc.. heheh..03:17
seliniumI had the old gamebox thing that you plugged into the tv in had two variacs and played different versions a bat and ball03:17
podgethenuke, A windows guy at work was having some fun with the three letter unix commands the other day..03:18
thenuke:-] 03:18
thenukeAwwww.... "what did you say? awk? thought you use windows only"03:19
mumblesbotted up into ubntu for the first tine in 3 /1/2 weeks and theres lots of updates03:19
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mumblesbeen on holiday03:19
seliniummumbles: would you rather wait for security patches?03:20
podgethenuke, He was using the cygwin port... essentially scripting on Windows is braindead with stuff like Cygwin..03:20
[DF2] it says adsl-start03:20
podgethenuke, Sorry.. "without stuff like Sygwin"..03:20
[DF2] it says adsl-start:command not found03:20
[DF2] can anyone help?03:20
mumblesselinium,  not complaining but im just glad ive got brodband03:21
selinium:)03:21
apokryphosmumbles: just so easy to take it for granted03:21
mumblesyeh i know03:21
mumblesi was stuck in africa for 3 weeks03:21
podgemumbles, The price we pay for Open Source progress.. ! :)03:21
mumbleswhat with the powercuts and there dileup crashing most the time :(03:22
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podgemumbles, You could always wait 5 years for the next update to your Windows OS.. ;)03:22
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[DF2] anyone?03:22
podgemumbles, Africa?03:22
mumblesyeh... windows sucks03:22
mumblesyeh The gambia03:22
podgeHas anyone here updated their Hoary to Breezy via apt-get?03:23
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apokryphospodge: I doubt many did it by downloading the ISO somehow ;-)03:24
[DF2] pls someone03:25
osfameronhow would you take advantage of, say, improvements in hardware detection if you use apt-get ?03:25
osfameron[DF2] : probably best to ask the question again, can't see what it is without wading through scrollback03:25
podgeapokryphos, Have you updated to Breezy?.. I tried the livecd and it was good..03:25
[DF2] ive just config all the stuff for pppoe03:25
[DF2] eciadsl03:26
apokryphospodge: yes03:26
[DF2] now i should do adsl-start03:26
[DF2] but says03:26
twibblerpodge: whats breezy ....03:26
[DF2] it says adsl-start:command not found03:26
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mumblesright i need to do some work on the windows install now03:26
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podgetwibbler, Next version of Ubuntu.. currently in development..03:27
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gjoemmiello?03:27
twibblerpodge: stable or playful ?... guess playful ...03:27
podgeapokryphos, Did you have any problems after the update?03:27
gjoemmieIs there anyone who wants to talk to me for 5 minutes about my questions of ubuntu plz?03:28
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podgetwibbler, Playful.. :).. of course, everyone should try it out if they can..03:28
neliusi have a problem with breezy03:28
Nggjoemmie: just ask your question, if anyone knows, they will pipe up :)03:28
twibblerpodge thanks must get a play machine ....03:28
apokryphospodge: a few; you'll be ok if you know what you're doing.03:28
gjoemmieI want to make a dual boot03:28
gjoemmiebcuz a friend of mine used this computer with ubuntu03:29
Deterministis there any way to install a local .deb package using apt-get so that it will download missing packages to satisfy dependencies?03:29
gjoemmiebut i dont understand it, so i wanna dual boot it with windows03:29
neliusinstallation of breezy was w.o. problems. but now after the first boot i get no network connections. ifconfig tells me that the interface in setup properly03:29
gjoemmiehow do i dual boot?03:29
podgegjoemmie, Do you have Windows on the computer already?03:29
gjoemmieno03:29
gjoemmieonly ubuntu03:29
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gustavorI can't find acroread 7, j2se and w32codes in ubuntu repo. I have restricted, universe and multiverse added to my sources.list. were they recently removed?03:30
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gjoemmiebut he gave this laptop to me, but I dont know how to work with it (and i need it tomorrow)03:30
AristoMagnus!sources03:30
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:30
furicwhat would be a command line application to play a wav through esd? something light and quick, suitable for system notifications.03:30
AristoMagnusgustavor: go see that link03:30
gjoemmieso he just said: try to dual boot with windows, u'll understand03:30
gustavorAristoMagnus: I already have all this added03:30
AristoMagnusok03:30
AristoMagnus:x03:30
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tdnI have installed Ubuntu and is impressed by it. There is just one thing that bothers me. It is that it seems to be using som generic driver for mig graphics card. I have a GForce2 GTS/Pro. It should be supported.03:31
brownie17bob2: i finally managed to get smeg working, but there are still problems03:31
brownie17bob2: like the fact that any changes i make in the damn thing just dont save!!!03:32
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brownie17bob2: for some reason it wont let me make a new menu, it seems to work fine, but it just doesn't make it03:33
tdnHow do I get Ubuntu to use the correct driver for my GForce2 GTS/Pro?03:33
podgetdn, I thought you had to download and compile the nvidia drivers?03:33
brownie17aftertaf03:33
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brownie17aftertaf: i am having some problems with smeg, it works fine but it won't let me make a new menu03:34
mindampheres a tough one...03:34
furicthats an nvidia card right tdn?03:34
neliusi get "no route to host" if i try to ssh a host out in the net03:34
mindampwhenever i try to apt-get remove or install ANY package... i get an error from dpkg about nagios03:34
mindampand teapop03:34
mindampwhich both should not be installed anymore03:34
mindampwhats going on?03:34
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podgetdn, Also, use Synaptics to search for nvidia related modules..03:35
mindampanyone?03:35
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furicYou need to install nvidia-glx03:36
podgemindamp, What is the error?03:36
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mindamproot@beast:/etc # apt-get remove apache03:36
mindampReading package lists... Done03:36
mindampBuilding dependency tree... Done03:36
mindampPackage apache is not installed, so not removed03:36
mindamp0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 54 not upgraded.03:36
mindamp2 not fully installed or removed.03:36
mindampNeed to get 0B of archives.03:36
mindampAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.03:36
mindampSetting up nagios-common (1.3-0+pre6) ...03:36
mindampgrep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory03:36
mindamp/usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable, exiting03:36
mindamp/usr/bin/htpasswd: cannot create file /etc/nagios/htpasswd.users03:37
mindampdpkg: error processing nagios-common (--configure):03:37
mindamp subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:37
mindampSetting up teapop (0.3.7-2) ...03:37
mindamp/var/lib/dpkg/info/teapop.postinst: line 49: /etc/teapop/teapop.passwd: No such file or directory03:37
mindampERROR: Could not edit /usr/share/teapop/teapop.passwd.in -> /etc/teapop/teapop.passwd03:37
mindamp/var/lib/dpkg/info/teapop.postinst: line 136: /etc/init.d/teapop: No such file or directory03:37
brownie17 i am having some problems with smeg, it works fine but it won't let me make a new menu, can anyone help me?03:37
mindampdpkg: error processing teapop (--configure):03:37
mindamp subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:37
mindampErrors were encountered while processing:03:37
mindamp nagios-common03:37
mindamp teapop03:37
mindampE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:37
mindamproot@beast:/etc #03:37
mindampfucking sorry03:37
mumblesmindamp use pastbin03:37
mindampdidn't mean to do that03:37
brownie17PASTEBIN!!!!03:37
tdnpodge, hmm... Should I just download and compile the driver from nvidia.com? In Debian I'm am not to use that one.03:37
brownie17!tell mindamp about pastebin03:37
mumbleshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:37
mindamphttp://mindamp.org/error03:37
mindamperrrrr http://mindamp.org/error.txt03:37
mindampi hate when people mesg me03:38
mindampthats so gay03:38
mindampi said i had the wrong damn window03:38
brownie17language03:38
mindampi know about pastbin03:38
mindampsorry03:38
podgetdn, Did you install the nvidia-glx packages?03:38
mindampits just annoying03:38
brownie17forgvine03:38
brownie17 i am having some problems with smeg, it works fine but it won't let me make a new menu, can anyone help me?03:38
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JuhazI wouldn't complain about others being annoying after just annoying the hell out of half of the channel, accidentally or no :)03:38
AristoMagnus !!!03:38
mindampyeh yeh03:39
AristoMagnuslol03:39
mindampdid you have an answer juhaz?03:39
tdnpodge, on Ubuntu? No. I haven't. I am doing that now.03:39
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AristoMagnus03:40
nightswimbecause most irc clients suck03:40
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mindampso can anyone help?03:40
mindamphttp://mindamp.org/error.txt03:40
mindampwhy is that line mucking with nagios.. which shouldn't be installed, and why does apt-get say 2 not fully installed or removed?03:41
mindampand how do i fix that?03:41
brownie17seems like apache allready wasnt installed03:41
brownie17:)03:41
brownie17that's allright, i know im a a great help :)03:41
McScrufflo ,pls help, somehow my storage ext3 partition has been formatted, is there a linux app that can recover it03:41
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brownie17mcscruff: i doubt it, depends on how well it was formatted, how many passes?03:42
mindampuhmmm... im not asking about the apache part03:42
Juhazsounds like you, or something else, has been mucking around with those files outside package management03:42
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mindampwell i was using dplg03:42
brownie17mindamp: it's allright, i've got no idea anyway03:42
mindamper dpkg03:42
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mindampbut how do i fix that?03:42
znhhello03:42
McScruffbrownie, i dont even recall doing it, i think a suse install raped it so it would have been 103:42
apokryphosmindamp: you used dpkg to install?03:43
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mindampinstead of getting trolled could i get some help with this03:43
mindampit was a mistake03:43
mindampi was high03:43
brownie17McSruff: i guess you're best bet is to try synaptic, all the smart people seem ot be not listening right now03:43
apokryphosmindamp: who said that was a troll?03:43
apokryphosmindamp: if you did instlal with dpkg, then remove with dpkg03:43
McScruffi found an app but its a windows app :(03:43
znhI've installed samba, but I'd like to change the servers description.. it's currently Samba 3.0.10-Ubuntu03:43
mindamphmmm03:44
mindampill try that03:44
apokryphosmindamp: man dpkg03:44
OneSeventeenI'm trying to use a nautilus script that uses the "sudo" command, but it won't work.  (non-sudo scripts work though)  Is there something I need to do to make them work?03:44
brownie17Mcsruff: what i want to know is, WHY IN GOD'S NAME WERE YOU TRYING TO DITCH UBUNTU!?03:44
mindampremove dpkg?03:44
mindampor uninstall with dpkg03:44
podgeMcScruff, Was it a quick format?03:44
apokryphosmindamp: uninstall with dpkg, of course. man dpkg03:44
mindampher03:44
mindampYes, do as i say!03:44
McScruffpodge, tbh i have no idea, as i didnt ask for it to be done03:45
mindampapokryphos... i tried to uninstall nagios with dpkg03:45
brownie17i'm going to bed, it's 12am here!03:45
mindampbut it says its not installed03:45
znhbrownie17: have fun :)03:45
brownie17znh: :)03:45
apokryphosmindamp: go to the .deb you tried to install it with, and do dpkg -r {package}.deb03:46
podgeMcScruff, Can you still boot into Linux? or it is really bad?03:46
apokryphosmindamp: or dpkg --purge even better03:46
mindampapokyruphos.. i did have a .deb to install it with03:46
mindampi don't even remember really using the command03:46
apokryphosubotu: tell mindamp about tab03:47
McScruffpodge, it was a storage hdd03:47
mindamphah03:47
mindampapokryphos, when i try to purge nagios it says its not installed03:47
podgeMcScruff, So you can still boot into Linux.. which helps..03:47
McScruffyep03:47
podgeMcScruff, Did you do any Google searching for Linux recovery tools?03:47
McScruffbut an app i found needs windows03:47
rodietzehi dudes03:47
McScruffim googleing now03:47
apokryphosmindamp: with the same deb you tried to install it with? Ok, then it's apparently not installed.03:47
McScruffand hav been for a few mins03:48
apokryphosmindamp: ...not with tha .deb, anyway.03:48
mindampapokryphos, i didnt have a .deb03:48
McScruffim gonna try wine03:48
apokryphosmindamp: geh03:48
mindampapokryphos, no its GAY03:48
apokryphosmindamp: how exactly did you use dpkg to install it then...03:48
apokryphosmindamp: no, it's not gay. :)03:48
mindampapokryphos,  i don't think i did03:48
mindampapokryphos,  thats why im confused as to why whenever i use apt-get i get that message about dpkg teapop, and nagios03:49
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BiSK-8hello03:49
rodietzehow to get all packages from ubuntu without being by FTP, coz it always stops suddenly03:49
osfameronooo, nautilus++ # adding an smb share adds it to the Places menu03:49
mindampapokryphos,  which IS gay03:49
podgeMcScruff, Windows utilities generally won't know about ext3 filesystems..03:49
apokryphosmindamp: please don't use that term to describe things being negative.03:49
BiSK-8how can i get my ipod 2 work on ubuntu?03:49
mindampapokryphos,  sorry.. didn't mean to offend you :-)03:50
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apokryphosmindamp: so what's the problem as it stands, that you can't remove apache/03:50
mindampapokryphos, not.. i can use apt-get fine...03:50
mindamphowever it always says that sh*t dpkg always says that sh*t about nbagios and teapop03:50
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McScruffpodge, this is a windows app that is for recoverying ext2 and ext303:51
mindampthat was strange..03:51
twibblerNow can anybody help me with setting up a link to a samba server please....03:51
mindampi meant it always says that crap about nagios and teapop03:51
mindampwhenever i use apt03:51
osfamerongnome-- # ffs, why can't you magically open a document from samba?03:52
podgeMcScruff, Yeah..? What is it called?03:53
mindamptwibbler.. what does that mean?03:53
mindampa link from windows or linux to the samba server...03:53
infinitocan someone help me configuring alsa?03:53
mindampand do you mean a share/mount or what?03:53
mindampsmbmount03:53
mindampman smbmount03:53
twibblerI have a samba server which I want to setup alink from my laptop to ... so I can play with the files ...03:53
tdnpodge, I have now installed the nvidia package. What do I do now?03:53
wijnanddoes anyone here use gutenprint?03:54
tdnpodge, should it just work?03:54
twibblermindamp: ubuntu to fedora 303:54
podgetdn, As far as I know, you have to restart X?03:54
mindamptwibbler... man smbmount03:54
mindampi wish someone would help me with my problem03:54
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tdnpodge, I have tried that. No difference.03:54
twibblermindamp: thank you going to install the man docs now ...03:55
mindamptwibbler... one sec03:55
mindampill pull the exact command for you03:55
McScruffpodge http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm03:55
McScruffis there a way to get vmware to use my storage hdd as a "real" drive?03:56
apokryphosmindamp: have you tried doing a sudo dpkg --configure -a ?03:56
tdnpodge, shouldn't I be able to see the driver being loaded if I do a dmesg |grep -i nvidia?03:56
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mindamptwibbler.. just install smbmount and run the command03:57
mindampit has examples03:57
twibblermindamp: thank you ....03:57
mindampapokryphos,  i don't wanna configure it, i wanna remove it :-)03:57
apokryphosmindamp: err, I know. =)03:58
podgetdn, When you ran glx-gears do they run fast?03:58
mindampapokryphos, it says some errors about teapop03:58
mindampwhich shouldn't be installed03:58
mindampso i am going to remove the teapop stuff from /var/lib/dpkg/info03:58
tdnpodge, doesn't have glx-gears03:58
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tdnpodge, Oh. Yes I have. glxgears even.03:59
mindampapokryphos, hah! i removed the teapop stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info and now when i run " dpkg --configure -a " it says setting up teapop....03:59
mindampWTF03:59
tdnpodge, it says: ``Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'' and ``glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.''03:59
apokryphosmindamp: yes, another broken package installation it seems...03:59
apokryphosmindamp: let it install and then remove it *properly* with apt04:00
mindampill try that04:00
apokryphosdid you install debian packages or something? Could've happened from you stopping dpkg while it's installing, improperly, I guess.04:01
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mindampapokryphos,  thats prolly what happend04:01
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podgetdn, So you have all of the nvidia packages installed?04:03
Mustafa^^hello04:03
podgetdn, and I think you are right.. you might need to reboot of manually load the kernel modules for the driver to work..04:03
Mustafa^^How to mount Hp Photosmart 735 camera?04:03
tdnpodge, I have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings. I do not have installed the nvclock packages for overclocking.04:04
qt2might someone reccomend a good dvd authoring program for linux?04:04
tdnpodge, Ok. If I reboot now. How do I load the driver manually?04:04
tdnpodge, I also do not have installed nvidia-kernel-source. Should I?04:04
podgetdn, What about linux restricted modules etc?04:04
Kyralsudo modprobe <module>04:05
tdnpodge, no. Not the restricted modules. Should I install them?04:05
podgeDoes anyone else here have an nvidia graphics card?04:05
Mustafa^^Help me04:05
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Mustafa^^How to mount Hp Photosmart 735 camera?04:05
KyralPlug it in04:06
Kyralshould automount...I think..04:06
Mustafa^^It doesnt work04:06
KyralMy Canon Powershot worked :D04:06
apokryphos...especially in kde04:06
Kyralhave you installed gphoto?04:06
Mustafa^^I am using Kubuntu04:06
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jatoshi04:06
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CCFIELdoes anybody here know where to get a gaim-vv ( with webcam support )? :)04:07
Kyral!info gaim-vv04:07
jatostry gaim.sourceforge.net04:07
jatosand look uder plugins04:08
podgetdn: Not sure.. trying to find a help page on the Internet.04:08
tdnpodge, Ok. Thanks.04:08
podgetdn, nvidia-kernel-common installed?04:08
jatosbut I think you will find that kopete has what you want04:08
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CCFIELjatos: what do you mean kopete support webcam?04:08
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jatosI beleive kopete messenger supports webcams04:09
apokryphosjatos: only svn, currently.04:09
apokryphos3.5 will04:09
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tdnpodge, Yes. nvidia-kernel-common is installed.04:10
CCFIELapokryphos: what do you mean i need to compile..04:10
CCFIEL?04:10
apokryphosI mean you'd have a big hassle for it, yes.04:11
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jatosanyone in this room used crossover office04:11
podgetdn, This might interest you.. http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver04:11
CCFIELic..i dont like to compile it..:( just want to apt-get.. :)04:11
tdnpodge, ok. Thanks.04:13
podgetdn, They are specific instructions for Ubuntu and Nvidia drivers..04:13
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Jejjohallo04:16
apokryphosaloha04:16
tdnpodge, yeah I see. I'm trying them now. Thanks.04:16
Jejjohi i have a problem accessing shared folder on xp pro from ubuntu. i'm asked for autentication request04:17
Jejjoif i enter user plus password it doesnt work04:18
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Jejjois anubody here?04:18
podgeJejjo, Did you set a password on the XP share?04:19
wijnanddoes anyone here use gutenprint?04:19
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Jejjopodge, yep04:19
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meeepheya. how do i get sound to VLC, had the same prob with BMP, but changed output to esound. any cle?04:19
podgeJejjo, Are you using smbclient? Or something else?04:20
Jejjopodge, sorry. no. no password on the share. i entered the password of the machine i want to log on but it doesn't seem to work04:20
osfameronJejjo: is your username the same on that machine ?04:20
tdnpodge, it worked! Thanks!04:20
tdnpodge, the page is now bookmarked :)04:21
podgemeep: Preferences, Audio... then click the Advanced Options box.. then change the Audio Output Module...04:21
podgetdn, Good news! :)...04:21
Jejjopodge, i 've tried surfing from net resources ( i have it in italian but it should be that) i can surfe the share but i can't copy or move files. the user name is the same04:21
podgeJejjo, Have you checked "allow users to modify my files" on the XP box?04:22
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Jejjopodge, but i've tryed entering dfferent shared folders on different pcs but always no acces from ubuntu04:22
podgetdn, How fast does GLX gears run? :)04:22
auraxdoes anyone knows how to save iptables?04:22
batomsdoes anyone else have problems with metacity restarting when a pygtk app opens a dialog04:22
podgeJejjo, Are you using smbclient?04:23
Jejjopodge, yes it's possible to modyfy files. i can do it from other xp machines04:23
Jejjono smbclient04:23
meeeppodge, i can only type in that field04:23
meeepwhat should i typ,e podge?04:23
Jejjopodge, do i need to start the smbclient?04:23
meeepnevermind podge, im with stupid :P04:23
podgemeeep, No.. if you move the scrollbar you will have a dropdown box..04:23
tdnpodge, actually not as good as I have hoped for: 5366 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1073.200 FP04:24
meeepyeah, saw that now. thx alot 4 savin my day, podge!04:24
tdnpodge, +as04:24
tdnpodge, -a04:24
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kickrocksis there a live cd for ia6404:24
podgemeeep, is EsounD output in the list?04:24
meeeppodge, no it isnt :S04:24
podgeJejjo, Nah.. open a terminal window.. and run  .... smbclient \\<ip>\<share> -U <username>04:25
tdnpodge, They use 100% CPU. When I do not touch the computer, they run ok smoothly, but if I move the mouse (especially in horizontal) the are not running smoothly.04:25
Jejjopodge, maybe i miss something. must i start a process of smbclient to gain access to shared folders?04:25
meeeplinux something, dummy something, sound for file something. wtf? :S :(04:25
Jejjopodge, thanks i try04:25
podgetdn : So you are not happy with 1000+ frames per second? :)04:25
podgemeep: You need to install the esound plugin for vlc..04:26
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meeepok, podge. ehm... where can i do that? (so ashamed for being newbish)04:26
podgemeep : vlc-esd04:26
meeepTY :D04:26
podgemeep : apt-get install vlc-esd04:26
tdnpodge, yeah. Thats ok. But I was just hoping for some more :)04:26
podgetdn: It is an old card (it is exactly the same as mine)..04:27
podgeJejjo, smbclient is the command line version of mapping shares..04:27
tdnpodge, ok :)04:27
Raskallhmm.. strange. in breezy: I have norwegian characters in text mode and in login window, but when I am logged in to gnome my norwegian chars is gone04:27
tdnpodge, how much does your card perform?04:27
podgetdn, It still tuns call of duty pretty well.. :)04:27
meeeppodge! THANKS! you sure are the man today :D now lets watch some jackass :D04:27
tdnpodge, heh ok :)04:28
tdnpodge, if I do not touch the computer for 5 secs it does 17894 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3578.800 FPS04:28
podgetdn, I am on my laptop at the moment.. so I can't say.. but I also compiled my drivers..04:28
tdnpodge, ok.04:28
podgemeeep, So you now have sound in VLC?04:28
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tdnpodge, well... It does tuxracer nicely. Thats good enough for me! :D04:29
meeeppodge. i sure do! thx to you! love #ubuntu and all helpers in here!04:29
podgetdn, I suspect if you compile your drivers the performance will go up..04:29
tommaehi, anyone have overclockix 3.8 english and working cd?04:29
tommaeor any download link04:29
tdnpodge, ok. Maybe I'll try that some time. For now I just want to play tuxracer ;)04:29
podgemeeep, VLC is great.. but how do you make it keep it's window size when the movie finishes playing?04:29
podgetdn, and run the cool OpenGL screensavers.. heheh..04:30
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tdnpodge, hehe yea.04:30
meeeppodge, my knowledge aint too good, sorry :/04:30
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Jejjopodge, i get an error \172.16.124.143shared: Not enough '\' characters in service but i have inserted a \ between the ip and the share04:32
LaserLineAnybody uses BEAGLE here ?? I  get an error trying to load it. here is the error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183004:32
podgeJejjo, Sorry.. you can use / instead of \ so .... smbclient //172.16.124.143/shared04:33
Raskallahh.. fixed it. had to remove my customized .xmodmap file (had to make one since it didn't work when I first upgraded to breezy)04:34
podgeRaskall, How have you found Breezy?04:34
podgeRaskall, Is it good?04:34
LaserLineAnyone has a clue why Beagle doesn't work - I just apt-get install beagle..... here is the error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183004:34
podgeLaserLine, Sorry.. I can't help..04:34
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Raskallpodge: been running breezy without problems other than kb for about a month now04:34
Raskallpodge: not a lot of differences yet.04:35
podgeRaskall, I tried the LiveCD on my laptop and it functioned better with the custom buttons..04:36
NoHopehey, where is smbmount?04:36
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podgeRaskall, I need to sit down and have a play with it..04:37
podgeNoHope, You need the smbfs package installed..04:37
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NoHopepodge, thx.04:38
podgeRaskall, What kernel does it come with and what version of gnome?04:38
Jejjopodge, i seem to gain acces now. thanks. even though i get this error message: " params.c:Section() - Badly formed line in configuration file: ]  params.c:pm_process() - Failed.  Error returned from params.c:parse() smbclient: Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it" but then i get the password prompt and a04:38
KyralKernel is always in flux it seems04:38
Jejjopodge, i enter machine04:38
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Kyralbut the 2.6.12 series04:38
KyralGNOME 2.11.something like 1004:39
podgeJejjo, Are you able to create a directory on the share?04:39
wolkidoes someone here have problems connecting to googletalk, too? Sometimes it works, but most of the time gaim tells me error while reading04:39
podgeKyral, The new gnome improvements sound good..04:39
Kyralwolki, sometimes04:39
Jejjopodge, yes mkdir works. how can i have this loaded by defauld so i dont need to enter command for each share. i have many shared folders on many different machines04:40
KyralI need to download and burn Colony3 today04:40
KyralI want to try out the graphical install04:40
wolkiKyral: i get it most of the time, then i wait an hour and it might work... i wonder whether it's a local problem or their servers are overloaded. Very annoying is that metacity seems to crash each time it fails on breezy...04:40
Kyraleh I wouldn't know04:41
podgeJejjo, Are you able to create a directory when you browse to the share using gnome?04:41
KyralI tend to keep a constant connection04:41
Jejjowolki, googletalk for linux?04:41
wolkiJejjo: using their server with gaim04:41
wolkiKyral: yeah, once i'm connected it stays for hours... bizzarre04:42
Jejjopodge, it requests access autentication04:42
LaserLineAnyone here uses Beagle ??04:42
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podgeJejjo, Yeah... so you type in the username and password... can you then create a directory?04:43
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Jejjopodge, i do but i get prompted again and again. username  and pws don't work04:43
djpcan anybody here help me with the compile and install of gens under hoary? the reason i ask is it is, the only piece of software that i have to install from source, due to lack of any deb file in the ubuntu repos. i really do not have any idea what i need to do, but really would like to have the emulator working as it is the best mega drive/genesis emu available04:44
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podgeJejjo, Can you try the "Connect to Server..." option in the Places menu.. Then change the Sevice type to Windows share... fill in details.. .... is it successful then?04:45
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Jejjopodge, my username on xp is usertest password is passtest. i enter it and i get again authentication required. "you must log in to access usertest@xppro/shared"04:46
Xappehmm, is there no usplash in breezy ppc?04:46
Jejjopodge, i try04:46
chrissturmdjp: it seems that gens is windows only04:46
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podgeJejjo, The gnome network browser isn't sending the details through properly if smbclient is working correctly.. just have to work out what format gnome network requires..04:47
djpchrissturm: no it is available for gnu/linux. i have used it under suse and fedora. there are rpm files available for both distros.04:47
chrissturmdjp: found it04:48
djpchrissturm: i know, difficult to locate on the official web page!04:48
djpchrissturm: i'm looking for it now...04:48
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wolkidjp: dgen is in the repos, for backup, should you not get gens to work04:50
u_int32_they i cant get my wifi to associate with any router... i read the howto on the wiki and that didnt help, what can i try04:51
djpwolki: sure thanks. i have tried that emu, but itof the "two" games i really want to play, one of them, dr. robotnik's mean bean machine, does not display the falling beans properly... :(04:52
djpwolki: otherwise, i would have stuck with that... i know that gens and generator both work with mean bean machine04:52
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Deterministamule isnt letting me write files to /mnt/winxpdat, says permittion denied. i've chmod the dir to be 777 but still04:53
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wolkibasic procedure for installing from source: install "checkinstall", get and unpack the file. "./configure", look for the missing dependencies, install them, repeat the last two steps until configure finishes, "make", "sudo checkinstall"04:53
wolkidjp: might be, i have that game here but play sonic most of the time... stopped that too since i finally bought a dreamcast04:54
djpwolki: i love my dreamcast!04:54
podgeDeterminist, Does the ntfs driver allow you to write to windows drives?04:54
Deterministpodge: FAT32, not NTFS ;)04:55
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djpwolki: is there a special package that needs to be installed for compiling and installing packages?04:55
Jejjopodge, it doesn't help having gnome in italian! :( . i tryed so; service tipe windows share. server: machinenamei want to access. share: shared folder name.  folder: again sharedfolder name, username: machineshareusername. name to be used for connection: again username. but when i get the password prompt the password is not correct.04:55
podgeDeterminist, Okay...04:55
wolkidjp: me too... and how can you say no to 10 plus 10 shipping04:55
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tdnRight now I have a 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. I would like to upgrade to one that is optimized for my CPU (AMD Athlon 1400MHz). How do I do that on Ubuntu?04:56
wolkidjp: build-essential, and one of the automakes, i think. checkinstall is recommended, as it will create a deb before installing it so you can remove it easily (a big pain if you just "make install")04:56
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wolkidjp: usually compiling is not that hard, some programs might be difficult though04:57
podgeJejjo, It is interesting that gnome won't let you in .... but smbclient does..04:57
rp78hi all04:57
wolkihi rp7804:57
OneSeventeenhow do I add an application to the "Applications" menu in gnome?04:57
wolkiOneSeventeen: in hoary, you need to install smeg, look at the forums04:58
monkstergreetings04:58
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djpcheers wolki04:58
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=== Xappe can't find the usplash package in the breezy ppc repos
rp78anyone please help me with multimedia codecs04:59
podgeDeterminist, Did you mount the drive manually.. maybe it is mounted read-only?04:59
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kayfelixHello!05:00
kayfelixAnyone know how I can access my Hauppage WinTV card?05:00
qt2might someone reccomend a good dvd authoring program for linux?05:00
Xappekayfelix: use tvtime05:00
OneSeventeenwolki: thanks!  got it and it works great05:00
Deterministpodge: mounted from fstab using this: /dev/hda5       /mnt/winxpdat   vfat            rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0       005:00
kayfelixXappe: tvtime opens and closes.05:00
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kayfelixXappe: normal for a program i know, but the delay between the two is only like 200ms...05:01
Xappekayfelix: hmm, strange. I've never had any problems with my wintv pci in ubuntu05:01
kayfelixkubuntu?05:01
NoHopehey, [apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird]  is trying to download from the cdrom, how to download it from the web?05:02
Xappekayfelix: no, i'm using gnome05:02
kayfelixcan I pm you Xappe?05:02
Xappeyes05:02
podgeDeterminist, Umm... if you open a Root Terminal are you able to cd into the directory and create files?05:02
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Deterministof course05:03
podgeDeterminist, but not as a user..05:03
podgeDeterminist,  ???05:03
kayfelixXappe: did you get the pm?05:04
Deterministpodge: havent checked that, but it shows the dir owner is root. has the right permissions tho... 77705:04
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Xappekayfelix: not if you pasted already05:05
kayfelixi did not05:05
Xappekayfelix: use the pastebin05:05
Xappeok05:05
kayfelixpastebin? where do I find that?05:05
kayfelix!info pastebin05:06
podgeDeterminist, So can you CD into the /mnt/winxpdat area and see your windows files?05:06
BubbleflyHmmm... If/When I dist-upgrade to Breezy, would all my personal setting still be around, or would I have to set up everything again? :305:06
kayfelix!pastebin05:06
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:06
kayfelixXappe: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183205:06
kayfelix& to anyone else who cares to look and tell me how to sort out my WinTV card...05:08
kayfelixhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183205:08
AristoMagnuslittle question: Carolina is in wich state in us05:11
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avalostAristoMagnus: there are two states with carolina05:11
AristoMagnusoh05:11
AristoMagnus:|05:11
avalostnorth carolina and south carolina05:11
avalostI live in south carolina05:11
AristoMagnusthe one with the phone 71405:11
avalostdo an area code lookup05:12
AristoMagnus California   Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco05:12
AristoMagnusits not carolina05:12
AristoMagnus:s05:12
AristoMagnushuh05:13
AristoMagnuswhat the..05:13
AristoMagnusIn usa, the area code can be in more than one state?05:13
AristoMagnuscity05:13
avalostyes05:13
avalostmy old area code 518 covered like 80% of new york state05:14
AristoMagnushuh05:14
AristoMagnushow can it be possible05:14
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AristoMagnushere in montreal, we need more 514 area !05:14
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AristoMagnusso we will have to get 2 area code just for 1 city05:14
OneSeventeenwhen I boot up and shut down, I just have a black screen until gdm starts, this all happened after compiling a custom kernel, is this a common issue?  if so, how do I correct it?05:15
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boodleHi.. anyone else seeing problems in breezy's evolution when moving messages to different folders and folder updates in general?05:15
morale(EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI. - what does this mean when i try to startx?.. How do I built X.org with DRI 4.1.x.. instead of 5?05:15
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kandooradoes any one have the hsfmodem file for x86 from linuxant05:16
JRlinuxTried Live Ubuntu for 64 and no sound.  I was going to install Ubuntu, but if there is no sound... maybe not.05:17
Deterministpodge: yes, i can05:17
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none_-is it safe to upgrade to breezy via the repositories? is breezy analogous to debian unstable?05:18
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thenukenone_-: safe? no.05:18
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thenukenone_-: breezy is not the stable one, so it is not safe05:19
kayfelixXappe: hey im back05:19
avalosthow far is breezy from release?05:19
Xappemorale: that's a known bug in breezy. they're working on it...05:19
thenukeavalost: few months I guess05:19
none_-my question is whether or not you can update via the repositories05:19
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Gorullazi have configured my nvidia geforce card so that tv out also works as twinview. but now i need to learn to make videos maximize in TV and use monitor to do other work. is that possible?05:20
avalostnone_-: I don't see why not05:20
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thenukenone_-: yes you can upgrade to breezy if you want to05:20
podgeDeterminist, Sorry... I have to go.. I am sorry that I cannot stay to finish helping...05:20
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none_-cool05:20
igorcarhow to set up splash screen on ubuntu?05:20
none_-just making sure i didn't have to use CVS or somesuch05:20
avalostigorcar: check the wiki05:20
none_-thanks05:21
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thenukenone_-: you just cant wait few months :905:21
thenukenone_-: ?05:21
igorcarpls tell me05:21
none_-not really.. i switched from debian unstable to ubuntu.. i prefer bleeding edge05:21
igorcarPLS05:22
none_-some of the software in hoary is outdated05:22
igorcarTELL ME, DAMNWITHKIT05:22
Gorullazhi, can anyone help me.05:22
thenukenone_-: yeah, well if you know how to fix your system when it brokes you are free to do the upgrading :905:23
igorcarthis is ubuntu channel05:24
igorcardamned05:24
igorcaryou assholes!05:24
glynlol05:24
thenukeigorcar: you stupid!05:24
avalostigorcar: take a hike05:24
igorcarjust fuck off, all of you,05:24
igorcar!!!05:24
ubotuit has been said that ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me05:24
thenukeigorcar: what makes you think we know everything?05:24
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avalostigorcar: go back to your third world country and learn proper english before trying to insult us :)05:25
jatosif someone speaks to us like that why bother speaking to them?05:25
jatosI see I am not the only one thinking that..05:25
igorcaryeah05:25
thenukeigorcar: please leave us be and go get kick&bans from channel like #debian, there is also ppl who knows how to use bootsplashes05:25
igorcaryou are stupid05:25
igorcarFUCK YOUUUUU !05:25
chrissturmigorcar, if you dont like it here, leave05:25
igorcaryou motherfuckers\05:25
igorcaryou can ban me05:26
glynthis is funny05:26
avalosthaha05:26
igorcarbut05:26
avalostthis IS funny05:26
igorcaravalost: reci to svojoj mami!05:26
thenukeigorcar is my 4 year old boy, I'm sorry :D05:26
chrissturmbut you will still have no splashscreen05:26
thenukeHe's still learning the IRC :D05:26
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avalostigorcar:  type rm -rf $HOME05:26
rp78anyone who has a driver for epson c4505:26
igorcarthenuke: retardu05:26
avalostthen fix your bootsplash :)05:26
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thenukeigorcar: you must have meant 'retardo'05:26
igorcarno05:27
igorcarretardu05:27
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BollocksMacenzieHow do you create a custom graphical login?05:27
avalostyeah, 'retardu' is idiot for 'retarded' :)05:27
jatoswheres the ops when you need them?05:27
thenukeBollocksMacenzie: read the docs05:28
thenukeBollocksMacenzie: for graphical login managers05:28
igorcarOPS ARE GONE05:28
igorcarFUCK YOU!05:28
avalostany of you people using e17?05:28
igorcarFUCK YOU!05:28
igorcarMOTHERFUCKERS!05:28
BollocksMacenziethenuke: Why do people say stuff like that! If I found anything usefull before now, I wouldn't have asked!05:28
igorcarfuck fuck fuck fuck05:28
igorcarfuck off05:28
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thenukeBollocksMacenzie: excuse me?05:29
BollocksMacenziethenuke: Why do people say stuff like that! If I found anything usefull before now, I wouldn't have asked!05:29
jatoshey ,lets ignore him05:29
sepmikesomeone  ddos igorcar please05:29
thenukeBollocksMacenzie: excuse me?05:29
igorcarBollocksMacenzie: cause they don't want to answer to your questions05:29
jatosI got an either better suggestion...05:29
chrissturm igorcar!*@* added to ignore list.05:29
igorcarthey want to ..05:29
igorcarjebte se svi bre05:29
thenukeright! that is what we want! svi bre!05:30
BollocksMacenziethenuke: Checked docs, that's my point! If they said how to create custom ones I wouldn't have asked!05:30
jatostheres no ops here so why don't he all go into a second channel till hes gone for now, then come back when hes got the message we are not bothered05:30
avalostfist of all nobody here owes it to you to give you help, if you're either too lazy to try and help yourself or too much of an ass to deserve help you prolly won't get any05:30
thenukeBollocksMacenzie: but did not try google?05:30
avalostBollocksMacenzie: there is plenty of info on the wiki05:30
CarlFKavalost - watch the language05:31
avalostCarlFK: have you been sleeping?05:31
CarlFKjust woke up05:31
CarlFKso yes.05:31
avalostyeah, scroll up.05:31
sepmikeread ^^05:31
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arachnionhello05:32
BollocksMacenziethenuke: Yes, I tried Google!05:32
arachnionI was here yesterday with a sound problem05:32
BollocksMacenzieavalost: There's nothing on the wiki!05:32
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thenukeBollocksMacenzie: how do you suppose every other dude made those things then if there just is no docs :D05:33
avalosthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=splash&titlesearch=Titles05:33
arachnionlunitik, o/05:33
arachnionyesterday I had no sound05:34
arachnionnow, my sound is just noise05:34
arachnionand it's responding to events, it seems05:34
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djfmHi05:34
arachnioncertain noises are created when I hold down a key, move my mouse...05:34
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djfmhow can I temporarily disable the sound server?05:35
avalosthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=158628705:35
djfmI have games that have no sound05:35
JRlinuxAnother try:  I need a linux for my Compaq AMD64 computer.  Wanted to install Ubuntu, but the live Ubuntu does NOT do sound.  How hard might it be to fix that?05:35
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jatosvery, in fact your best bet is just to put kubuntu on second partition JRlinux05:38
jatos*ubuntu05:38
Xappedjfm: killall esd05:38
djfmthanks05:39
djfmand to start it again.?05:39
Xappedjfm: just type esd and press enter05:39
djfmgreat05:39
JRlinuxjatos   You mean that kubuntu might be more likely to do the sound?05:43
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jatosno, that was typo05:43
JRlinuxok05:44
toranhey guys... I'm trying to compile a program, and its configure script can't find openal on my system. I have libopenal0 and libopenal-dev installed, though05:44
aTypicalHi, all.  Where can I get the Colony-3 iso?  The US server I saw only has Colony-2.05:44
JRlinuxjato, I already have Mepis on one partition.  Maybe I should settle for Mepis for sound and Ubuntu for speed and recognition of all the ports...05:45
toranhttp://pastebin.com/35289705:46
toranwhat's going on?05:46
jatoshmm, I think you will find you get sound if you insta.ll ubuntu instead of using live05:46
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sepmikecan anyone help me get my wifi card working ?05:48
Poprocksanyone know why the ~/.forward file is needed for procmail w/ postfix on ubuntu?05:48
Poprockssepmike: what's the problem05:48
JRlinuxjatos, that is encouraging.  I think I might try it.  I find some Mepis folks cynical of Ubuntu, but I cannot get a clear reason why.  I kinda like what I have seen of it.05:48
sepmikePoprocks: no leds05:49
Rondomich versuche gerade sk98lin nach der anleitung von https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sk98lin zu installieren. der sagt mir aber bei der installation, dass die gcc-version irgendwie falsch ist05:49
Rondom[17:39]  <Rondom> Check kernel gcc version (3.3.5) (Kernel:3.3.5 != gcc:(Debian) [Failed] 05:49
Rondomsorry05:49
toranJRlinux: I've tried several distros, ubuntu is definately my favorite05:49
toranit has all the best of debian, with loads of ease of use05:49
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toran</plug>05:49
toran;-)05:49
Poprockssepmike: you attach it and it doesn't light up?05:49
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jatosJRlinux: What do you expect, its the normal rivally you get the world over for in various situations05:50
sepmikeyeah it's inserted and cardctl status cshows status socket 0: 3.3v cardbus card function 0: [ready] 05:50
RondomI'm trying to install sk98lin using the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sk98lin bit I get "Check kernel gcc version (3.3.5) (Kernel:3.3.5 != gcc:(Debian) [failed] "05:50
Rondomhow do I fix that?05:50
XorlevJRlinux: The Linux world is fiercly competitive...though I don't see the point.05:51
Poprockssepmike: ... yet it's not lit up?05:51
sepmikecorrect05:51
MarkAngelsHi, will the Gigabyte GN-WBKG (wifi usb2 dongle) work in Ubuntu? Or where can I find that sort of information?05:51
toranhttp://pastebin.com/35289705:51
torancould someone take a look at that?05:51
sepmikedmesg shows eth1 cound not install irq handler05:52
Poprockssepmike: on windows does it usually always have a light on or only if it sees a hotspot?05:52
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sepmikeit'll search05:52
sepmikelight up05:52
Poprocksare you using ndiswrapper?05:52
dabarRondom: installed build-essential?05:52
sepmikeit's wg51105:53
sepmikenative support05:53
sepmikeit runs on my other lappy default install05:53
sepmikei think this might be a cause05:53
sepmikepart of the dmesg05:53
James-CSilly question: Do you know what ubuntu package provides the 'configure' program you use when compiling a program (configure, make, make install) from scratch?05:53
sepmikeno irq know for interrupt pin a of device blah blah05:53
sepmikeplease try using pci=biosirq05:53
Poprockshave you tried that?05:54
sepmikewell05:54
sepmikewhere do I put it?05:54
Poprockssepmike: in your grub config05:54
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dabartoran: what gives you the error?05:54
sepmike/boot/grup?05:54
sepmike*b05:54
toran./configure of a program05:54
tvoJames-C: configure is a script in the package you compile, that's why you do ./configure (note the ./)05:54
toranI'm trying to install it05:54
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Poprockssepmike: yes, on your kernel line05:54
dabartell James-C about configure.05:55
sepmikei'm not sure exact what file to do it to05:55
dabaroh, nm.05:55
sepmikei'm rather new to ubuntu05:55
Poprockssepmike: in /boot/grub/menu.lst -- look for a line that reads "#kopt"05:55
Rondomdabar: yes05:55
James-Ctvo: ahhh.05:55
Poprocksit will be a commented line -- for instance mine reads:05:55
Poprocks# kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro resume=/dev/hda105:55
sepmikeah lilo05:55
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arachnionI'm still having sound problems, anybody here that knows something about sound devices etc?05:56
James-Ctvo: the README says configure, the file in this case is named configure.ac  *doh* it is always something obvious... *sigh*05:56
Poprocksdon't uncomment it but add pci=biosirq to it, so like # kopt=pci=biosirq05:56
sepmikeI use lilo05:56
Poprocksoh05:56
sepmikewell05:56
Poprocksthen it should be /etc/lilo.conf05:56
tvoJames-C: configure.ac is the input file for autoconf, which generates ./configure script from it05:57
binais there a fast way to find out how many lines are in a text file?05:57
dabarman wc bina05:57
binadabar: thanks05:57
dabarya!05:58
mindampquestion.. whenever i "apt-get install apache2" everything goes find with the exception that its not adding apache2 to /etc/init.d05:58
mindampwhat can I do to fix this?05:58
sepmikethere is no kopt line in lilo conf05:58
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Poprocksright, it's "append="05:58
Poprockslet me check05:58
dabarmindamp: is httpd in that folder?05:58
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Xappeany ppc breezy users here?05:58
binadabar: generated an 800MB text file. v proud :)05:58
James-Ctvo: hrmm, very strange, I'm going to go find the tar elsewhere to see if I can find one with a ./configure in it then.05:58
dabarbina: whats in it? a life story;)?05:59
tvoJames-C: it's not a daily-snapshot or something a like, they often require some extra commands (autoconf etc.) to install?05:59
arachnioncan anyone help me with some sound problems here?05:59
tvoJames-C: I have to go now, dinnertime06:00
meuserj|workJames-C, try to run the autogen.sh script06:00
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meuserj|workJames-C, if there is one that is...06:00
binadabar: lol, i got bored earlier n made a java prog that goes through the alphabet 26 times, so i get aaaaa...a aaaaa....b aaaaaa.c etc etc.  been going at it for hours06:00
dabarwe dont know anything about your issue, arachnion, thus, we can not know whether we can help you.06:00
arachnionok dabar06:00
bina51,883,485 Lines06:00
sepmikearachnion select asla06:00
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arachnion cardI have no sound, using an on board AC06:01
arachnionNum lock06:01
sepmikemindamp there is a good step by step apache2 install guide the forum06:01
arachnionI have no sound, using an on board AC97 card06:01
sepmikearachnion select asla06:01
arachnionswitched to alsa already06:01
Poprockssepmike: just add a line to the top of lilo.conf, append= "pci=biosirq"06:01
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orangeyhey all!06:01
dabarbina: ah, ok, yes,  *generated*06:01
orangeyis there a backport of 2.6.13 for hoary, by chance?06:02
mindampsepmike... i know how to install apache206:02
binadabar :)06:02
Poprockssepmike: then run lilo and reboot06:02
mindampits as simple as "apt-get install apache2" and normally it install the init.d script as well... however mine is not doing that06:02
mindampand im wondering why06:02
arachnionapt-get installed libesd-alsa0, switched in System >> Pref >> multimedia select06:02
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mindampanyone have any suggestions?06:02
James-Cmeuserj|work: Ah, I think tvo was right and the more stable package is complete and has ./configure06:02
mindamplike a special argument for apt-get?06:02
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Seveasmindamp, there is no argument to exclude an instscript06:03
dabarmindamp: I dont think so, wana paste your /etc/init.d to seveas' pastebin?06:03
arachnionis there anything else that should be said dabar ?06:04
aenohi, what tv-card program do you recommend for hauppauges old tv-cards?06:04
mindampdabar.. why would i do that?06:04
mindampthere is no apache2 there...06:04
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GNAMwhat about kubuntu betas?06:04
mindampand i don't wanna exclude the initscript... i wanna include the init script06:04
mindampare you guys listening?06:05
dabararachnion: paste amixer output to paste.ubuntulinux.org I can try seeing whether there is something I could tell from it.06:05
darkheartmindamp It might be in /usr/share, or /usr/libexec06:05
meeephow can i make UTF-8 work for others? i see special letters myself, but others sees only ascii-code with irc. what should i do? :S06:05
Seveasmindamp, where did you install apache2 from? ubuntu repository?06:06
dabarmindamp: well, if there is not script to exclude it, then it should not have been excluded because of that reason, I think that is what seveas though.06:06
Seveasif so - the initscript is included. EOD.06:06
dabarmindamp: what are you trying to do tho? tried sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start or something?06:06
RedGhost[DENTISTok so i downloaded the limewire .rpm, then i converted it to a .deb with alien, now i do dkpg install <name> right?06:06
bur[n] eranyone using rhythmbox .9 and find the search box a crash trigger?06:06
glynGlobal controls will have to be imposed..and a world governing body will be created to enfroce them06:06
bur[n] erRedGhost[DENTIST: theoretically, yes :)06:06
dabarRedGhost[DENTIST: use the .bin, I say.06:06
Hoxzercan I somehow install ubuntu without destroying my windows XP install?06:07
mindampwhat are you guys talking about?06:07
bur[n] erHoxzer: resize your XP partition using qtparted06:07
mindampi tried to apt-get install apache2 ... everything went fine06:07
RedGhost[DENTISTis there a .bin listed on the site?06:07
mindamphowever it did not start apache206:07
arachnionI just posted it on pastebin dabar, your link 404'd: http://pastebin.com/35291006:07
RedGhost[DENTISTi never saw one06:07
mindampi looked in /etc/init.d06:07
HoxzerBur: ok, can I have guide for that?06:07
spine55where does ubutnu log sshd login attempts?06:07
mindampand sure enough no apache2 initscript06:07
dabarmindamp: try sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start.06:07
mindampforget it06:07
aenoHoxzer, yes if you install to other partition06:07
meeep!proftpd06:07
ubotumeeep: I give up, what is it?06:07
mindampdabar06:07
mindampyour not listening.. there is no /etc/init.d/apache206:08
dabararachnion: ya, its paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:08
mindampwhen i run invoke-rc.d it says there is no /etc/init.d/apache206:08
aenobut can you help me with tv-card program? I don't know what to look for, any names you could give?06:08
mindampawtv06:08
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aenothanks06:09
Seveasspine55, /var/log/auth.log perhaps06:09
aenohmm looks like my sources aren't complite06:09
arachnionshould I put it on paste.ubuntulinux.nl too dabar ?06:09
auraxi got an issue, i want to connect to my office, and have the ability to remote control the workstation which are winxp06:09
auraxwhat should i start with ?06:09
Seveasaeno: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:09
Seveasaurax, applications -> internet -> terminal server client06:10
aenothanks!06:10
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Hoxzerbur[n] er: hmmm, seems like qtparted is only for linux06:10
bur[n] erHoxzer: boot a livecd with qtparted on it ;)06:10
Hoxzerok06:10
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auraxSeveas ?06:10
Hoxzerthis is gonna be hard :E06:10
Seveasaurax ?06:10
auraxname me the ports06:10
auraxplease06:11
mindampaeno... "apt-get install xawtv"06:11
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auraxi want to remote admin my workstations @ office06:11
auraxnot the server06:11
Seveasah ok06:11
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aurax;)06:11
spine55Seveas: Thanks ... I keep seeing refrences to /var/log/secure on the net06:11
Seveaswindows remote desktop uses 3389006:11
auraxi was thinking about dial in to the office06:11
mindampok.. even bigger problem now06:11
Quinthiushi all, what would you guys say is a suitable size for /var on a non-server typical desktop system? i tried 500mb and that wasn't even enough to finish installation...06:11
auraxthen have the ability to surf the internal net06:11
mindampapt-get install apache2 ... isn't even creating the /etc/apache2 directory...06:11
mindampwhat the hell?06:11
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auraxand remote admin of course06:11
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Seveasmindamp, dpkg -P apache206:12
Seveasdouble-check your sources.list06:12
dabararachnion: nono, thats fine, I dont know what you can do about the sound. You could try using alsamixer in a terminal, and playing with the controls, but remember to return it to how it was if you dont fix it. m mutes/unmutes06:12
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Seveasand then install it06:12
LasseLubuntu-unregged setup is driving me nuts!06:12
arachnion:( ok, thanks for looking dabar06:12
SeveasLasseL, it's driving everyone nuts06:12
Seveasbut spam is worse06:12
dabarsure, I am really a beginner with the sound thing...so I know very few things. ask crimsun if you see him, that will likely fix your issue.06:13
LasseLSeveas, but now unregistered nicks can no longer send PMs06:13
auraxso does anyone has a solution about remote admin windows workstation with ubuntu server?06:13
dabarVNC?06:13
SeveasLasseL, you can disable that filter06:13
dabarI dont know, but it sounds that is how you would go about it, aurax.06:13
auraxvnc..06:14
auraxuhm06:14
Seveasaurax, you're not making 100% sense about your setup06:14
LasseLSeveas, I would that that and a flood protection bot would be enough to protect agains spammers?06:14
darkheartaurax What are you trying to do?06:14
Seveasbe a bit more precise in your description06:14
auraxi got office with 7 clients that i want to remote admin06:14
auraxone ubuntu server06:14
Seveasthey spam in private messages LasseL06:14
auraxthat is a gateway also06:14
Seveasaha06:14
aurax;)06:14
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Seveaswell, forward port 33890 to one workstation06:14
mindampcan i get some fing help here?06:15
Seveas33891 to 33890 on another06:15
LasseLSeveas, yes, but if the bots are not registered nicks they can't do that anymore06:15
Seveasetc...06:15
auraxuhm06:15
Seveasand use the standard remote desktop client06:15
mindampdpkg -P apache2 does nothing...06:15
darkheartSeveas I thought it was 3389 for Windows Remote Desktop?06:15
mindampmy sources are fine...06:15
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mindampwhat is going on?06:15
SeveasLasseL, their sheer volume makes watching then join+part awful too06:15
mindampthis makes me wanna through ubuntu out the window06:15
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Seveasmindamp, dpkg -P apache206:15
mindampseveas... that does nothing06:15
Seveasthen apt-get install apache206:15
mindamplike i said thrice06:16
mindampive done that06:16
Seveasand put the output on the pastebin06:16
mindampover and over06:16
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mindampfine06:16
dabarmindamp: we're not your network admins, ok? we just use ubuntu, please calm down, and give some time to your issue, try some things...06:16
Seveastogether with your sources06:16
mindampjesus06:16
Ichanzhai all06:16
dabaryo06:16
LasseLSeveas, are you sure that the people that send the bots keep running them if they can't spam anyone anymore06:16
darkheartlol06:17
SeveasLasseL, yes06:17
Seveasthey still join every few seconds06:17
Ichanzhow to change resolution in BASH06:17
darkheartThat's like 'are you sure the sign is in English when we're not looking?' =)06:17
Ichanzi mean xwindow resolution06:17
mindamphere you go http://pastebin.com/35292006:17
mindampthat process creates no /etc/apache2 directory06:17
mindampor even the initscript06:17
LasseLSeveas, so you are saying that most people in #ubuntu-unregged is bots??06:18
SeveasLasseL, no06:18
Seveasthe bots join+part06:18
Seveasjoin the unregged channel06:18
glynyeah installing stuff can be frustrating on Ubuntu..sometimes it takes me 2-4 hours to install something06:18
Seveasand watch them fly by all the time06:18
LasseLi am there06:18
dabarSeveas: seems like his main is commented out.06:18
dabarmaybe not:)06:18
mindampim right here...06:19
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mindampyou can talk to me06:19
mindampso whats the deal?06:19
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aenomm06:19
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dabarIchanz: Do you mean your resolution for your screen, like 640x480, and that? in the gnome desktop environment after you log in?06:20
Seveasmindamp, odd, it ignores the dependencies06:20
Gnonthgolglyn: but we are trying to fox that, just write it down if you gets a bug and send it to someone at ubuntu06:20
Seveasapache2 is not a real package but depends on real apache packages06:20
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Seveasmindamp, dpkg -l 'apache2*'06:20
Seveasand paste the output on the pastebin06:20
mindampk06:21
simplydazedHi, i'm having some trouble setting up a TVcard. I loaded the correct modules, but getting "bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)" error. Could anybody point me in the rite direction.06:21
Ichanzdabar Ichanz: Do you mean your resolution for your screen, like 640x480, and that? in the gnome desktop environment after you log in? <-- yesss... i can see anything cos my screen shaking.... i have to decrease the resolution ... how ???06:22
mindamphttp://pastebin.com/35292806:22
mindampthere06:22
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Ichanzdabar Ichanz: Do you mean your resolution for your screen, like 640x480, and that? in the gnome desktop environment after you log in? <-- yesss... i can not see anything cos my screen shaking.... i have to decrease the resolution ... how ???06:22
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Gnonthgolsimplydazed: what type of TV card? have you googled it?06:22
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simplydazedGnonthgol, Pixelview Card. Spend 2 hours on google06:23
mindampwintv thes best06:23
simplydazedGnonthgol, tried all the Pixelview possible cards, but still getting the error and ***unknown*** card06:23
Seveasmindamp, apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils06:23
Seveasapt-get update06:23
Seveasapt-get install apache206:24
simplydazedGnonthgol : bttv0: using:  *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC ***  [card=0,autodetected] 06:24
Gnonthgolsimplydazed: what does HAL say?06:24
simplydazedGnonthgol, not following you06:24
mindampseveas...06:25
mindampuh why is that removing phpsysinfo, and phpmyadmin?06:25
simplydazedGnonthgol, can you msg you?06:25
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Gnonthgolubotu: tell simplydazed about hal06:25
Seveasbecause the depend on apache, reinstall them later06:25
chrisslbecause apache is a dep for this php stuff06:25
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chrissl:)06:25
dabarsimplydazed: he probably could, but then he would be talking to himself.06:26
mindampbah06:26
mindampseveas...06:26
mindampit works06:26
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simplydazedGnonthgol, thanks06:26
mindamphowever whenever i hit my site.. i have to download the php06:26
mindampwhats that all about06:26
wijnanddoes anyone here use gutenprint?06:26
mindampdo i need to addtype to apache2.conf?06:26
osfameronwijnand: I don't.... but I'm curious now, what is it ?06:26
simplydazeddabar, ?06:26
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wijnandosfameron: it's simply the latest gimp-print :)06:27
dabar(11:25:37) simplydazed: Gnonthgol, can you msg you?06:27
Seveasmindamp, install libapache2-mod-php406:27
simplydazeddabar, your reply doesn't make any sense.06:27
mindampseveas.. i did06:27
Doonzhey guys i have a wierd problem06:27
glynhelp:someone put meth in my soda and I'm going crazy06:27
wijnandosfameron: as it's not in any repository i want to make surei can actually use it with ubuntu without a problem before i buy a cutting edge printer ;)06:27
dabarsimplydazed: its not important...you asked him if he can message himself.06:28
Doonzeverytime i boot up i have to refresh my fstab so it takes all my mount points any ideas?06:28
simplydazeddabar, lol, i did. Sorry heh06:28
mindampseveas... libapache2-mod-php4 is installed06:28
mindampcould it be jacked like apache2 was?06:28
Seveasyes06:28
simplydazed:)06:28
Seveasit will be removed when you remove apache206:28
osfameronwijnand: you probably know there's a #gimp channel too?  (good old channel list :-)06:28
Ichanzbrb06:28
simplydazedGnonthgol, where does hal log to?06:29
wijnandosfameron: gimp-print is more of a separate project though, but yeah i guess i could ask there06:29
mindampahah06:29
mindampit works06:29
mindampthanks06:29
LaserLineAnyone got Beagle to work on Hoary ?06:30
Gnonthgolsimplydazed: System > Administration > nr. 3 from the top06:30
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poningrumorning guys06:31
Seveasmoin06:31
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Gnonthgolubotu: tell LaserLine about beagle06:32
poningruhttp://shop2.outpost.com/%7BQxh7aohZiBmPa8fGeAjYc8X0W43VNFj91Z0FUintMIJ1WEQWhPCj|-8888008532668758186/184095266/6/7001/7001/7002/7002/7001/-1|6615232222760492626/184095268/6/7001/7001/7002/7002/7001/-1|1125677930811%7D/product/416972306:32
poningruwoah06:32
poningrusorry06:32
darkheartDamn...that one link was almost a flood =)06:32
mindampappreciate it guys06:32
poningruanyone try a texas instrument chipset wifi card?06:32
poningrulooking into buying one06:32
LaserLineGnonthgol  Already followed that, buy I have ReiserFS...06:32
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poningrulooking around the wiki only shows couple of people with texas instrument chipsets06:34
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poningrubut they seem to be older/ different brand06:34
dabarponingru: read the ndiswrapper list of supported cards?06:34
poningruI cant find that list anywhere now06:36
poningrulast I heard they moved it to some wiki somewhere06:36
LaserLineGnothgol - What to i need to do for ReiserFS and Beagle ?06:36
poningrubut I cant find it for the life of me06:36
wijnandponingru: the list comes with the ndiswrapper installation06:36
wijnand(at least when you install from source...)06:36
simplydazedSeveas, could you help me with my TVcard problem?06:36
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Seveassimplydazed, probably not, I don't have such a card06:37
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simplydazedok, but i think its a module problem06:37
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GnonthgolLaserLine: Actualy I dont know what beagle is or why you are using ReiserFS06:37
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aTypicalLaserLine, beagle is a mono project so I think you'll need to install it.06:38
mindamphow do i set courier-pop to use the local mailboxes?06:39
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Seveascourier uses maildirs06:41
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Seveaslocal users maildirs are ~/.maildir06:41
Seveasset that path in /etc/courier/pop3d06:41
Oewynwhat's a good PCI/USB wireless card that works well w/ linux and is relatively new?06:41
KyralOrinoco06:42
davroNetwork controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 have worked for here ok.06:42
GnonthgolOewyn: I use RaLink06:43
Gnonthgol!tab06:44
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.06:44
ompaulanyone got a URL for the community calendar?06:44
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar06:44
ompaulthanks06:45
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Oewynanyone have success w/ xsupplicant and any of these cards?06:45
simplydazedGnonthgol, any idea how i can get the framebuffer address?06:45
apokryphosSeveas: you're deactivated on the NewUser network?06:45
Gnonthgolsimplydazed: no06:46
zoexiihello, is there a command that I can type to see my ip address?  I try 'ip -s' put none of the returned stuff looks like ip #'s.  I am trying to change port settings on my router and I need to know which computer is mine.06:46
Oewynifconfig06:46
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Oewyn!victory for the newbie! <-----06:47
zoexiiworks, cool.06:47
Seveasapokryphos, i've never really been a member of it06:47
Seveasjust an advisor06:47
ali4728Can any one help with multiple web site hosting (Name based virt host) ?06:48
QuinthiusCan anyone suggest a suitable size for /var on a desktop system? I tried 500mb and it was too small for installation to complete06:48
glyneveryone check out the channel I just found for the band DRI!  /join #dri06:49
apokryphosQuinthius: a gig, here.06:49
apokryphosQuinthius: why partition that off?06:49
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apokryphosQuinthius: actually, a large portion of that is extra stuff I have in www/06:49
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ubuntUserhow to check fps in q306:50
ubuntUser?06:50
ubuntUserhow to turn it on06:50
ubuntUser?06:50
Quinthiusapokryphos: and that holds up fine for installing lots of packages? (I noticed /var seems to be used for temporary package data while installing them)06:50
snak3cg_drawfps 1 via console06:50
snak3or showfps06:50
snak3i'm not sure :)06:50
apokryphosQuinthius: indeed; /var/cache/apt/archives/ is where packs go06:50
ubuntUserthx06:51
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apokryphosI still don't see the point in partitioning that off; it's pretty mainstream /06:51
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Oewynshould i get a PCI wireless card or just a USB?06:52
apokryphosQuinthius: re: holding up -- no, it probably wouldn't. From apt you can get up to around 0.5 gigs for an upgrade06:52
KyralI like the PCI06:52
apokryphosQuinthius: current dist-upgrade for me is 330 megs, for example. =)06:52
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Quinthiusapokryphos: but that is only temporary, right? doesn't need to KEEP that after it's installed, does it?06:53
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apokryphosyou can do an apt-get clean to remove them, sure.06:53
danixhey, well i dist upgrade my breezy 2 days ago and my x not enter anymore...some one get this problem or now something to do about it?06:54
Quinthiusapokryphos: so shouldn't 1 gig be fine for just installing packages and upgrades? no server stuff really... except maybe small personal web stuff06:54
apokryphosQuinthius: shaky. Again, *why* do you want to?06:55
Quinthiusapokryphos: it will be under LVM anyway, so i can increase the size later. i'm  just looking for a decent starting point06:55
apokryphosat _least_ 1.2, I'd put.06:56
danixits xorg broken?06:56
apokryphosdanix: in breezy -- yes, on-and-off.06:57
Quinthiusapokryphos: i like to keep /var, /tmp, /usr and /home on seperate partitions, especially if under LVM, so that sizes can be increased individually if needed. i would just leave /var on / and put / on lvm, but i've read about problems with root on lvm...06:57
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know of any good bandwidth monitoring software?06:57
apokryphosI can see that, but i still don't see why you'd want to. That would make things slower, when files are being transferred between partitions06:58
apokryphosaka, making your comp slower. The only partitions I'd make are really /home and /boot06:58
Quinthiusthat still leaves me with the problem of putting / on lvm...06:58
SeveasDr_Melectaus, bwm06:58
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Dr_Melectausthanks Seveas06:59
Seveasbut it could just as well be only / since my / is simply ext306:59
apokryphos /home is good for if you want to go between distros, and good for new users who think you need to ever reinstall, for example.07:00
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darkheartapokryphos It depends on the use of the computer to say that multiple partitions would make it slower.07:00
danixapokryphos, how its on-and-off?07:01
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apokryphosdarkheart: to an extent, of course. But transferring between partitions is slower than transferring between one partition.07:01
apokryphosdanix: as in, it varies.07:01
Quinthiusi want as much as possible on lvm, but would prefer to keep / off of lvm due to possible booting, recovery and upgrade problems i've seen mentioned. that means other common-use directories will need to be partitioned off from /07:01
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danixapokryphos, uhm....and i can only wait? because i cant enter x anymore07:02
apokryphosdanix: it's not recommended that you upgrade to breezy, of course. It hasn't received stable-status07:02
darkheartapokryphos True, but that's assuming your are doing a lot of cross-disk activity. If you are doing a lot of I/O from remote hosts, then having a logical partition that is dedicated to that service would improve performance.07:02
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danixapokryphos, i know...but im using =P and now the x dont enter...do u know something i can do?07:03
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Whistler:)07:04
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pefbye !07:04
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apokryphosdarkheart: granted. =)07:06
apokryphosdanix: not really. You could try reconfiguring your X, making sure the new drivers are properly intsalled07:07
Quinthiushmm, screw it, i'll just try / on lvm with a seperate non-lvm /boot and see how well that works...07:07
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apokryphosX in Breezy had actual issues with ATI drivers, but no idea how that's shaping up. NVidia seems to be working for the most part, but RenderAccel in X seems to be still broken07:07
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danixapokryphos, i reconfigured it twice..and nothing....07:10
reiki_worklooking for some clues here about microphone... When I turn teh mic on I can hear it in my speakers. So the mic's working. Ubuntu is not able to capture sound from the mic although it DOES appear to be trying. I simply get no sound recorded. There is no error. I'm at work right now but any clues where to start looking when I get home?07:12
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danixuhm...07:14
Seveasreiki_work, open alsamixer in the teminal07:14
Seveashit tab until you are at the recording controls07:15
Seveasfind the mic07:15
Seveasand raise the volume07:15
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reiki_workSeveas; thanks. I'll try that. I opened the mixer from the drop down menus and I did find the mic volume down right at first. That wasn't alsamixer? (sorry... clueless after so much time away from linux)07:16
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Seveasreiki_work, alsamixer is a command you type in the termina;l07:19
reiki_workSeveas: ok... I thought maybe it was a command that opened a window. :)  Thanks. I'll try this first thing when I get home07:19
lsuactiafnerSeveas : i got a machine with ATA and SATA disks and only the sata is detected.. default ubuntu kernel, my own kernel didnt detect it either, any quick fixes you can think of?07:20
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Ichanzhi07:27
IchanzHELP!!!07:27
Whistler?07:27
nfinitep1astikheh...exactly07:27
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Ichanzi've got to change my resolution in ubuntu07:27
Ichanzhow ???07:27
lsuactiafner!kernel07:28
nfinitep1astikIchanz: preferences ----> screen resolution07:28
nlogaxSystem | Preferences | Screen Resolution07:28
lsuactiafnerwhats the default hoary ubuntu kernel thats installed on 5.04?07:28
Ichanznfinitep1astik Ichanz: preferences ----> screen resolution <-- using console... i cant see anything in xwindows07:28
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nfinitep1astikrofl07:28
Ichanz:P07:28
Seveaslsuactiafner, mess around in the bios07:29
nlogaxgot root access?07:29
Ichanzyep07:29
nlogaxcd /etc/X1107:29
lakcajdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:29
Seveas!res07:29
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Seveas07:29
Seveasubotu, stfu07:29
ubotuSeveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:29
Ichanzsure i've got one07:29
nlogaxIchanz I'll defer to lakcaj for a moment07:29
lsuactiafnerthats what i also told him but he doesnt believe me07:30
Seveas!resolution07:30
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:30
Ichanzthx a lot07:30
Seveas^== Ichanz07:30
tvolsuactiafner: 2.6.1007:30
danixi realy need help!!07:30
Xappethou may ask, and we shall consider to answer07:31
lakcajdanix, you are being _way_ too specific.07:31
danixWhen gdm starts I can see nvidia logo for few seconds, and them the x dont enter...and console comes...07:31
danixjust it...sems to be a problem with the devices or something like this...07:32
AristoMagnusdid X crashes?07:32
danixhapened after a upgrade07:32
danixyes07:32
themuffinkingwhere is the "Administrator Mode" button?07:33
lakcajdanix, did you look at any of the log files in /var/log for info?07:33
BlissexXappe: lakcaj: I have prepared this page on ''suggestions on how to ask questions'' to give to people in such occasions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v407:33
danixi reconfigured de xserver-xorg but dont work either07:33
danixyes....07:33
Blissexdanix: if you see the NVIDIA logo you are using the proprietary NVIDIA driver, which may have problem of its own.07:33
danixbut its not here..because im on windows...07:33
lakcajBlissex, wow, that's pretty "all encompassing"07:33
HappyFoolthemuffinking: is "applications -> system tools -> root terminal" what you want?07:33
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danixBlissex, wich problem?07:33
themuffinkingfound it07:34
Blissexdanix: have you tried the 'nv' or 'vesa' drivers to see if it is a driver problem or an X config problem?07:34
HappyFooldanix: are you on hoary or breezy?07:34
danixBlissex, not yet07:34
Blissexlakcaj: I have been trying hard :-)07:34
danixbreezy07:34
Blissexdanix: good, if you use Breezy you are a master guru and people like us cannot presume to help someone with your vast knowledge of incomplete bleeding edge systems...07:35
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danixBlissex, lol07:35
nlogax:-)07:35
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Sionidehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580521513807:36
danixBlissex, and because of this u cant help me?07:36
Blissexdanix: because of this we _should not_ help you...07:36
danixBlissex, this is not good...07:37
danix=(07:37
Blissexdanix: you know the story ''doctor if I hammer a nail into my hand it really hurts me, how can I stop that pain?''07:37
lakcajdanix, 1.  look in /var/log for info     2.  If you can't resolve the issue this way, try the nv or vesa driver07:37
nlogaxdanix I'd go with earlier suggestion to use nv or vesa drivers07:37
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danixi will try the nv driver...07:37
lakcajdanix, the nv driver will lack 3d acceleration, fyi07:38
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nlogaxtry the logs, cos it may well be another part of X that is dying07:38
danixyes..07:38
Blissexdanix: however, as well as trying the 'nv' or 'vesa' drivers, do as lakcaj suggests: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and check what exactly is the cause of the X server stopping. it usually writes an error message there before crashing.07:38
danixyes...i saw it...have error in imput devices07:39
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Xappedanix, the first thing you should do is to check the breezy development forums07:39
nlogaxdanix well well well07:39
danixXappe, already did07:40
danixand post07:40
Xappejust wanted to make sure :)07:40
danix=P07:40
snak3hmm after a fresh ubuntu install there is the ipp service started by default..how can i disable it?07:40
danixwell...im looking if i found anything elso..to reboot and try again07:40
lakcajsnak3, do you know what script starts the service?  update-rc.d -f <script_name> remove (in debian at least)07:41
snak3nope, dont know it :/07:41
AristoMagnushuh07:42
AristoMagnusbetter than that07:42
AristoMagnusapt-get install rcconf07:42
AristoMagnusrcconmf07:42
AristoMagnusrcconf07:42
dabartell Blissex about ask07:42
AristoMagnuswith a nice ncurses interface ;)07:42
lakcajsnak3, how did you discover the service?  What does "nmap 127.0.0.1" say?  Anything useful?07:42
snak3jep, nmap says that the port is open :)07:43
snak3thats why i want to close it07:43
lakcajsnak3, could it be cups opening the port?07:44
AristoMagnuswhich port07:44
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snak3631 default ipp port07:44
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AristoMagnushum07:44
lakcajyeah, that's cups07:44
AristoMagnusok07:45
AristoMagnussnak3: do you have a printer?07:45
snak3nope07:45
lakcajif you enter localhost:631 into your url of your browser, you should see the cups configuration wizard07:45
Flying-Penguinis there some kind of a wine channle?07:45
AristoMagnusrcconf and disable cups07:45
lakcaj#winehq07:46
Gnonthgolsnak3: just uninstall cups07:46
AristoMagnusno need07:46
AristoMagnusmaybe he will need it07:46
AristoMagnusjust disable the service and your done07:46
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snak3i'll try it, thanks :)07:46
AristoMagnusnp07:46
HappyFoolFlying-Penguin: i think it might be #winehq07:48
snak3hmm the webinterface says that all administrative commands are disabled...i should use the gnome cups manager...07:48
snak3and in the cups manager i cant disable the whole thing07:48
snak3guess i try the rcconf thing07:48
lakcajsnak3, that was just to illustrate that cups had the port open... yeah, as AristoMagnus said, use rcconf.07:49
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HappyFoolsnak3: it should only be listening on the localhost interface; do you really need to disable it?07:50
XTCi'm trying to get working a TV card on linux, and i managed to get S-Video working and being able to select which input i want (S-Video or TV) but TV mode isn't really working.... i tried scantv a few moments ago and it threw back "vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] " so i realized there's something missing which i don't know what it could be and neither google07:50
snak3dont want any ports open which i dont need07:50
Xappesnak3: check the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, you can fiddle with things there too07:51
Gnonthgolsnak07:51
Gnonthgolsnak3: why not?07:52
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snak3why should i?07:52
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citrosackdoes anyone know what port i should forward for remote desktop ?07:53
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nlogaxcitrosack - do you mean MS RDP?07:55
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Gnonthgolcitrosack: 590007:56
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citrosackGnonthgol: thanks07:56
auraxany good vnc app that supports windows and can scan the local subnet for the servers to connect to?07:57
Gnonthgolcitrosack: just found out07:57
Nalioth_zZzcitrosack: 22 if you're doing it in a secure manner07:57
tritiumuse update-rc.d07:57
citrosackthru ssh?07:57
Nalioth_zZzcitrosack: yes, through ssh07:58
citrosackhow do you do that?07:58
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Naliothhow do you do what? ssh tunneling?07:59
slibshow do i install latest clearlooks or gnome, so that i can use clearlooks graphite theme?07:59
aruslibs: did you download it yet?07:59
citrosackyeah ... sounds complicated07:59
Naliothslibs: start synaptic, search for "clearlook"08:00
slibsamm08:00
Naliothcitrosack: not at all, esp if you make a couple of aliases08:00
tritiumhi Nalioth08:00
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Naliothcitrosack: i do it every day08:00
slibsi have clearlooks already, but in ubuntu it's too old version08:00
Naliothhowdy tritium08:00
spiderwormhey all how do i play windows media player 9 movies?  totem wont play them....08:00
aru!mp308:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support08:01
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aruspiderworm: read that link08:01
citrosackNalioth: aliases for?08:01
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slibsNalioth, i need at least 0.6, and the clearlooks in ubuntu is 0.508:01
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Naliothcitrosack: it's a nice long command sequnce to set up ssh tunneling, an alias makes it nicer08:02
citrosackoh i see what you mean08:02
Naliothslibs: so go d/l the source code08:02
danixhey guys....dont worked...anyone want to see the gdm log or xorg conf?08:02
tritiumdanix: what are you trying to do?08:02
danixfix my xorg08:03
danixdont pass by nvidia logo08:03
tritiumdanix: put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin please08:03
tritiumnvidia logo can be disabled with a single option08:03
tritiumis that all you want to do?08:03
danixi will past..brb08:03
danixno08:03
tritiumokay08:03
danixmy x dont enter anymore08:04
dorini am having trouble getting wireless card working on laptop. when i go to device manager, it shows that it is there, but i don't have any idea how to actually set it up. can someone help me with that?08:04
tritiumdorin: which card?08:04
slibsNalioth, no thanks, i just found out that i can download 0.6 if i add few repositories08:04
dorinmotorola wn825gp08:04
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Naliothslibs: be careful with nonofficial repos, they may cause trouble for your box08:05
tritiumdorin: is there support for that in the latest kernel?08:05
tritiumNalioth++08:05
Nalioth?08:05
dorinhow would i be able to find that out (i am very new to linux in general, just installed it last night)08:05
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danixhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/gNJl6O20.html gdm log08:06
wolkiwhat's the command to find out a window's name again?08:06
tritiumslibs: heed Nalioth's warning about nonofficial repos08:06
rodietzeHow to join ubuntu developers team?08:06
danixtritium, http://rafb.net/paste/results/gNJl6O20.html08:06
spiderwormaru: ive got that repo and there's no w32codec package on there... 64 bit here, mebbe it's different for us?08:06
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danixBlissex, http://rafb.net/paste/results/gNJl6O20.html dont work put nv instend of nvidia08:06
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aruhmm08:06
tritiumdanix: checking08:07
danixk08:07
tritiumdanix: so you're saying nv works and nvidia doesn't?  Have you followed the BinaryDriverHowto?08:07
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spiderwormi shoulda gone 32 bit.  maybe when breezy is stable...08:07
tritiumDid you run nvidia-glx-config enable?08:07
ivoksSeveas: you kicked me?! :)08:07
danixno...no one works08:08
HappyFooldanix: you should probably mention that you're on breezy when stating your problem; i believe X has had lots of changes made from hoary08:08
tritiumdanix: please be more specifig08:08
tritiumspecific08:08
GoRoDeKhi all, after every reboot X fails to start, i believe the nvidia modul have to be loaded, but how i do it?08:08
rodietzedanix did u comment the xorg or XF86Config-4 the dri line and glcore lines?08:08
danixtritium, ok when i boot x try to start but dont start...08:08
GnonthgolGoRoDeK: what version are you on?08:08
tritiumdanix: are you running breezy?08:08
danixnvidia logo apears and x try to start again..but dont start..08:09
danixyes..breezy08:09
tritiumthis is important info08:09
danixits because i was talking about this before here...08:09
GoRoDeKGnonthgol: ubuntu 5.4 with kernel 2.6.1008:09
danixand go to ubuntu to test what people tell me to do08:09
danixrodietze, yes08:10
HappyFoolirc is approximately memoryless for any period longer than 60 seconds ;)08:10
tritiumdanix: I just read a bug report about serious regressions with the latest daily breezy image, and X not starting08:10
GoRoDeKif i reinstall the drivers and "startx" x runs perfectly. but after the restart x fails to start.08:10
tritiumGoRoDeK: which drivers?08:10
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danixtritium, where?08:11
GoRoDeKtritium: i downloaded nvidia drivers from the official page.08:11
ShereKhanCan anybody help me with DRI on Ubuntu? Installed 5.04 on a laptop with a Radeon Mobility 9700. Followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557 but it does not work. /var/log/Xorg.log says "could not detect XFree86 version (query_status=-3)" and "DRI initialization failed!". What gives?08:11
ShereKhanAnd yes, I installed the fglrx-package for xorg, not xfree8608:11
rodietzeuhm, danix, try commenting the last lines of the xorg.conf whre says: dri section 66608:11
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tritiumGoRoDeK: you should have followed the BinaryDriverHowto08:11
pepsiis anybody using vmware with breezy?08:11
tritiumdon't use nVidia's official page.  use ubuntu packages08:11
danixyes...08:12
lakcajdanix, your x is not starting because /dev/input/mice does not exist08:12
danixhave this on conf08:12
danixdo u wana see?08:12
tritiumGoRoDeK: don't do it that way.  use ubuntu packages08:12
danixlakcaj, and?08:12
danixlakcaj, what i can do?08:12
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chrismyhi ya08:12
danixwhere is the mice direcitory?08:12
dabarheyo.08:12
GoRoDeKtritium: ok i will give the ubuntu packages a try.., thx08:12
lakcajsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom08:12
lakcajsudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'08:12
lakcajsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:12
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chrismy:D08:13
lakcajlet it autodetect your mouse, if it still asks you for a device node, try /dev/psaux08:13
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danixk08:13
danixi will try it and what rodietze told08:14
lakcajdanix, but IMHO, you might want to try running the stable version of ubuntu.08:14
GoRoDeKdabar: thx! :)08:14
danixok08:14
danix=P08:14
g14Anyone knowledgable with squid?08:14
g14I have a very simple squid question08:14
rodietzedanix what did i tell u? :P08:15
rodietzegl4 shot08:15
Naliothg14: ask your squid question, you never know if some lurker wrote it08:15
mindampanyone know of a simple web based pop3 checker?08:15
wolkidoes someone here have experience with devilspie?08:15
Blissexdanix: the problem with your setup is with the mouse, not the NVIDIA driver.08:15
mindampand smtp interface?08:15
g14I need to set up squid to proxy ssl on HP-UX08:15
BlissexFatal server error: failed to initialize core devices08:16
danixBlissex, i know08:16
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g14squid on linux should be the same as squid on linux08:16
Blissexdanix: so just fix the mouse driver...08:16
coolkevwhen the new version of Ubuntu "Breezy" releases, will there be a way for those on hoary to upgrade to the new version, without loosing their files and data08:16
danixrodietze, tell me to coment a line on conf08:16
wolkicoolkev: there is08:16
Naliothcoolkev: yes, there will08:16
g14I can't find any docs on setting up squid to proxy ssl08:16
coolkevok08:16
coolkevthanks08:16
danixBlissex, i would like to know how08:16
danix=P08:16
Gnonthgol!breezy08:16
ubotusomebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/08:16
wolkicoolkev: apt / synaptic takes care of that08:17
rodietzedanix oh yeah, I had this problem before, and try checking your mose settings08:17
coolkevk08:17
Naliothg14 have you tried doin the same operatins as proxyin everything else?08:17
coolkevthat's cool and easy08:17
Blissexdanix: as a temporary solution: 'modprobe psmouse; modprobe usbmouse; modprobe mousedev'08:17
g14Yes08:17
rodietzedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:17
tritiumusing sudo08:17
danixrodietze, i already tryed reconfiguring08:17
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g14Nalioth: I have it set up to proxy http right now, but It's not doing ssl08:17
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rodietzedanix, but I mean the mouse settings08:17
puffis there a package to use my thinkpad microphone to record audio?08:18
Blissexdanix: the root problem is /dev/input/mice and the 'mousedev' module handles that.08:18
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wolkicoolkev: just replace the hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list. don't do it yet unless you know what you're doing08:18
TokenBadcan ubuntu be ran on a mac?08:18
Naliothg14: you set up the port numbers and all that rot?08:18
danixrodietze, i will try again08:18
tritiumpuff: try apt-cache search thinkpad.  There may be some packages08:18
NaliothTokenBad: ahem08:18
danixBlissex, what i put instend of /dev/input/mice?08:18
coolkevno i want to upgrade once it's finished and released.. like how someone on windows 98 would upgrade to windows xp i want to do similar with ubuntu08:18
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tritiumTokenBad: of course ;)08:18
NaliothTokenBad: um, .. yes08:19
TokenBadok...08:19
TokenBadjust asking08:19
TokenBaddon't kill me please08:19
Naliothcoolkev: 98 to XP is a whole different kettle of rotten fish then a apt-get upgrade08:19
NaliothTokenBad: there are many of us running ubuntu on macintosh in here08:19
Blissexdanix: well, you could make sure that device exists first...08:19
TokenBadcool08:19
danixhehe Blissex how?08:20
TokenBadits not for me..a friend is running like redhat ppc08:20
TokenBadand I asked why..and told him to get ubuntu08:20
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Blissexdanix: otherwise '/dev/psaux' for PS2 mouse or '/dev/usbmouse' for a USB mouse.08:20
lakcajpuff, you don't have to do anything special to get your mic working.  Just run alsamixer and try unmuting the mic.  As for recording from the mic, I'm not too sure.08:20
windexTokenBad, there may be issues if the machine is very old.08:20
danixBlissex, k08:20
nlogaxTokenBad> yes it can run on a Mac08:20
coolkevbut will it be easy and painless... like all the program will be upgraded and all the new features and eye candy will be added witht he upgrade while still keeping my old program settings like my gaim info and etc08:20
windexTokenBad, because last i knew redhat for ppc was very very old.08:20
Blissexdanix: how to configure the mouse for X is described in many HOWTOs...08:20
danixBlissex, ok08:21
TokenBadits a g3 machine08:21
TokenBadwill that be ok?08:21
Naliothwindex: redhat for everything is very old08:21
NaliothTokenBad: not a problem08:21
windexi was worried it was like a powermac. :)08:21
windexe.g. original powermac.08:21
konra`I'm having trouble sharing my linux printer over the network - I got samba and cups set up as described http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html, but the windows machines say "access denied to printer"08:21
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pufftritium: Only a few packages showed up with thinkpad as a keyword.08:22
lakcajTokenBad, be advised, some things will simply not work.  For example, there is no w32codecs for mac, and there is no flash plugin for firefox either if I remember correctly08:22
pufflakcaj: Thanks, I'll give alsamixer a spin.08:22
tritiumpuff: okay, just a suggestion08:22
puffMainly I want something for doing stuff like recording conversations and mp3 encoding them.08:22
slibshow risky is it to upgrade packages from backports stage?08:22
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pufftritium: Cool.  I don't really mind "did you check to see if it's plugged in" type suggestions, I've made mistakes like that in the past :-).08:23
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Naliothlakcaj: but otw, the hardware is fully supported (if it's still stock)08:23
tritiumpuff: :)08:23
rodietzehow many GBs would I get donwloading all the main and restricted ubuntu repos?08:23
lakcajpuff, man arecord08:23
TokenBadhe needs the powerpc version right?08:24
NaliothTokenBad: correct08:24
tritiumTokenBad: yep08:24
TokenBadk08:24
lakcajNalioth, yeah, I'm running debian ppc on my g/f's G3 ibook, using xfce4 to speed things up a bit, and it's not bad at all.08:24
pufflakcaj: a-hah!  Innnnteresting.08:24
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pabqasHi there, I wonder could someone help me wih a problem I'm having with ubuntu08:25
Naliothlakcaj: ive not had a problem running ubuntu-gnome on my G3 ibook (way faster than the stock OS)08:25
spiderwormcorrect me if im wrong, but i believe there's no amd64 packages at ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net at all08:25
pabqasI mean iptables08:25
tritiumpabqas: please ask08:25
danixtritium, u told that read a bug that x dont enter..where did u read this?08:25
pabqasI just upgraded a machine from Red Hat 908:25
tritiumdanix: one second08:25
lakcajNalioth, I just did a base install, so I didn't get the opportunity to try gnome, but it's nice to hear that it is functional.08:26
pabqasIt was running as a file, web, email and database server08:26
pabqasbut also as a web proxy08:26
rodietzehey how many GigaBytes are the entire main and restricted packages?08:26
pabqason a hunch, I figured I might be able to enable it as a NAT gateway08:26
pabqaswhich worked great08:26
KyralWhy would you want to download the ENTIRE repos?08:26
lakcajgotta go08:26
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pabqasI've installed ubuntu anyway, and I've gotten everything back, better than it was, except the NAT gateway08:27
pabqasI tried replicating the iptables script, but it didn't work...08:27
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xXKobaXxhey08:27
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Nalioth_wrknbbl08:27
pabqasset up as follows: college network, a 255.255.0.0 situation08:27
rodietzekyral, coz I don't have internet connection at home08:27
bob_toois there a known issue with installing breezy in "server" mode08:28
tritiumsee you Nalioth_wrkn08:28
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jbarberols08:28
tritiumbob_too: like what?08:28
jbarberoWhoops, hello!08:28
xXKobaXxcan someone tell me how to fix this error i get when i start up my Ubuntu? Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!08:28
KyralNo....internet.....at....home?08:28
pabqasthe ubuntu machine has outgoing and incoming connections.08:28
jbarberoI am wondering how I can pretend to apt that libexo is already installed?08:28
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jbarberoI am trying to install the package xfld-desktop from OS-Cillation.08:28
rodietzeKyral nope, so I want to save all the repos in a cd08:28
rodietzeoops08:28
bob_tooit hangs during the install...i believe at "laptop detect"08:28
rodietzein lots of them08:28
Kyralrodietze, thats gonna take a shitload of CDs08:28
jbarberoHowever, they have an older version of libexo than ubuntu, but apt doesn't recognize this fact.08:28
tritiumdanix: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/laptop-testing-team/2005-September/000040.html08:29
pepsianyone using vmware with breezy?08:29
KyralI'd download the packages you want and then burn them to CD08:29
tritiumthat doesn't appear to be related to your mouse proble, though danix08:29
bob_tootritium: my last msg was for you08:29
pabqasI want to connect 7 or 9 other machines to the internet by specifying the ubuntu machine's ip as a gateway08:29
danixtritium, ok..but i will read it..thanks08:29
tritiumbob_too: which image?08:29
rodietzeKyral , but I need gtk2.0 and beep-media-player, but there are lots of dependencies08:29
bob_toox86 install08:29
tritiumdaily?  what's the date?08:30
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rodietzeI mean almost uncountable dependencies, so instead of checking it out I'd download it all08:30
bob_tootritium: oh yeah, let me check that...08:30
LinuxNubhey does anyone know hot to set swapiness in ubuntu?08:30
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tritiumfeel free to ask08:31
rodietzebtw I'd like to congratule everybody that was involved in ubuntu, it roxxx!08:31
Kyralrodietze, I can assure you that its a lot less space to download the depends only08:31
bob_tootritium: iso downloaded Aug. 16th08:31
jbarberothis is the stupid error: libexo0.3-0: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.2) but 1.8.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed08:31
jbarberohow can APT mess up so badly?08:31
tritiumbob_too: you might want to try a more recent image08:31
xXKobaXxi get an error when ever i start up Ubuntu: Kernle Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!08:31
bob_tootritium: sure thing08:31
BlissexxXKobaXx: please read these suggestions on how to ask questions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v408:32
xXKobaXxKernel*08:32
tritiumbob_too: Colony 3, or the latest daily08:32
bob_toothanks08:32
KyralxXKobaXx, I can't help you sorry.....08:32
pepsibob_too, :( vmware is still brokenb, sir08:32
pepsiit makes me sad08:32
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Kyraljbarbero, you may wanna grab it from Debian repos.....08:32
jbarberoGrab which? libpango?08:32
Kyralyah08:32
jbarberoThanks08:33
Concord_DawnAny good internet radio stream ripping utilities available in the repos08:33
LinuxNubIf i use synaptic to remove evolution, it wants to take ubuntu-desktop is that ok?08:33
bob_toopepsi: what we get for being so "progressive"08:33
rodietzeKyral, heh ok thanks! I'll map all the dependencies needed so :) and hope it works heh oho btw, are debian packages completely suitable to ubuntu?08:33
KyralLinuxNub, its a metapackage (means it only exists to pull in a collection of unrelated packages)08:33
tritiumrodietze: no08:33
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Kyralso its safe to remove08:33
LinuxNuboh ok, thanks :)08:33
tritiumit's best not to mix debian packages with ubuntu08:33
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rodietzeuhmm thanks I'd do a bad mix so hehe08:34
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Kyralbut you want to reinstall it when you upgrade to Breezy08:34
LinuxNubill format when breezy comes08:34
rodietzetritium are you a ubuntu devel?08:34
jbarberoSorry, how do I add the Debian repos? I can't find their URLs08:34
tritiumrodietze: no08:34
tritiumI need to go for a while...08:35
rodietzeok08:35
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danixi will try..ttl08:36
rodietzebrb08:36
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LinuxNubso does anyone know how to set swapiness in ubuntu? sysctl -w swapiness=20 doesnt work08:37
dinswapiness?08:37
Concord_Dawn?08:37
Concord_Dawnswapiness?08:38
Concord_Dawnwhat in the?08:38
jbragnari'm trying to get breezy onto a vmware ws install, it fails on reboot after base install. Is there a known problem with vmware?08:38
LinuxNubits the value for ram to swap usage08:38
KyralI believe that is the parameter that determines how often the system goes to the swapdrive08:38
Concord_Dawnnot as far as I know jbarbero08:38
Concord_Dawnerm08:38
Concord_Dawnjbragnar*08:38
jbragnaroh08:38
jbragnargreat, i'll plug on08:38
jbragnarthank you Concord_Dawn08:38
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chrisslLinuxNub, swapon /dev/yourswapdrive08:39
chrisslyou use a swap partition08:39
LinuxNub?? thats not gonna help lol, im trying to set the value for swap to ram usage08:39
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cbuddenhey08:40
OculusAquilaehi cbudden08:40
cbuddenwonder if your can help me08:40
OculusAquilaemaybe08:40
cbuddeni have two ntfs partitions mounted to /media/windows and /media/mydoes08:41
cbuddenand i would like to have them appear as a drive on my desktop08:41
cbuddeni found a post on a forum that helps08:41
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cbudden sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart08:41
cbuddenmakes it work08:41
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stjepanhello08:42
OculusAquilaek08:42
cbuddenbut i would need to do this every time i log in08:42
stjepanhow can I install engage on Ubuntu?08:42
Concord_Dawnerm?08:42
Concord_Dawnapt-get install engage?08:42
wolkicbudden: tried adding it to gnome-session?08:42
cbuddenok08:43
nubbeLinuxNub, did u use sudo?  :)08:43
cbuddencould your please tell me how to do this?08:43
cbuddenplease08:43
cbuddenlol08:43
wolkiSystem -> Prefernces -> Session -> third tab -> add new08:43
wolkitype command there08:43
cbuddenyes i already tried that08:44
cbuddenbut it didnt work08:44
wolkiset order to something high, i'd say08:44
cbuddenok08:44
LinuxNubsudo with sysctl? i used it in a root terminal08:44
wolkinot? hm...08:44
cbuddenlike 10008:44
stjepanConcord_Dawn: E: Package engage has no installation candidate08:44
stjepan:(08:44
nubbeoki08:44
cbuddenthe skype and gaim entries i have in their are on 5008:44
wolkicbudden: tried linking it onto your desktop?08:44
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cbuddeni have it as a folder08:44
Concord_Dawnstjepan, have you tried googling?08:44
jbarberoThis is a weird question, but in for example Arch and Fedora, I can use the delete key in pico. Not in Ubuntu. Do you know what might cause this?08:44
sexcopter8000mhi, can anyone point me to a wiki or howto for printing on a network. the document is on an ubuntu machine and the printer is on an xp machine08:45
stjepanConcord_Dawn: yes08:45
Blissexjbarbero: probably.08:45
sexcopter8000mor do i just install cups and it's obvious?08:45
Blissexsexcopter8000m: you install CUPS and then it is not totally obvious :-)08:45
wolkiengegae is not in the repos, i think08:45
stjepanwolki: but how to install08:45
wolkitry if smoon's repo is still up, link is in the forums08:45
stjepan?08:45
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Blissexsexcopter8000m: looks for some HOWTO on Samba remote printing. One of the keywords should be 'smbprint'08:46
Concord_Dawncan't help you then stephank08:46
Concord_Dawnerm08:46
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sexcopter8000mBlissex: ty08:46
Concord_Dawnstjepan*08:46
cbuddenwolki: any idea?08:46
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stjepanI tried to install Engage from RPM, but it always says it needs shared library08:46
ValheruLordhow can i install java in ubuntu08:46
wolkistjepan: if it's not your out of luck. you either have to install it manually, which is a big hassle, or try if the debian packages work on breezy08:46
BlissexValheruLord: there is a nioce HOWTO in thw Ubuntu Wiki.08:47
Blissex!java08:47
ubotu[java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:47
stjepanwolki: I have hoary08:47
pepsihwat package is cc1plus in?08:47
wolkistjepan: i had it working from smoons repository, but he stopped updating it and i'm not sure it's still up08:47
pepsig++08:47
stjepanwolki: you have engage on ubuntu?08:48
wolkistjepan: debian packages will not work on hoary easily. wait a month and try on breezy08:48
stjepanwhy not on hoary?08:48
wolkistjepan: changed to breezy and didn't set it up there yet, but i did have it running on hoary08:48
stjepanhow did you install it?08:48
wolkistjepan: because the require a newer version of libc than hoary has08:49
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stjepanok08:49
wolkistjepan: like i said, smoon's repos. howto in the forums08:49
stjepanbut how to install it?08:49
stjepanfrom where?08:49
stjepanhow?08:49
nubbeLinuxNub, it works for mw08:49
stjepansmoon?08:49
nubbeLinuxNub, it works for me08:49
wolkisheesh... i'll go look.08:49
nubbelinuxboy, in term with sudo08:50
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Sionideis breezy alright to use yet?08:51
Concord_Dawnno08:51
Concord_DawnX is broken afaik08:51
wolkistjepan: here you are http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4610508:51
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JakeofArkWhat's the default root password for Ubuntu and how do I change it? I need the "su" command to work.08:52
nubbeLinuxNub, actually sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=?08:52
stjepanwolki: tnx08:52
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wolkiSionide: works here08:52
Blissexwolki: Debian Sarge and Ubuntu Hoary are mostly compatible at the _application_ level as they use the same main ABIs (GLIBC, C++, KDE, ...)08:52
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell JakeofArk about root08:52
konra`is there a gnome keyboard shortcut to kill the current process?08:52
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Blissexkonra`: there is no such thing as the ''current process''.08:52
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konra`Blissex, currently open window?08:53
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wolkistjepan: it will install all of e17, but you should be able to install just engage + dependencies08:53
Blissexkonra`: try to close it?08:53
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konra`how?08:53
wolkiBlissex: but getting it to work from the repos is still a big pain.08:53
nubbeLinuxNub, vm.swappiness=08:53
konra`witohout a mouse08:53
Blissexwolki: yes....08:53
HappyFoolkonra`: ctrl+w ?08:53
konra`ah.08:53
konra`thank you08:53
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LinuxNubAhaha! I found it, to set swapiness, echo >> /proc/sys/vm/swapiness08:54
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LinuxNuberr echo 2008:54
LinuxNubvm.swapiness is not defined08:54
Blissexkonra`: also, click on the ''close window'' button. Eventually GNOME detects that the window is not closing and offers to kill it.08:54
nubbeLinuxNub, sysctl -w vm.swappiness=?08:54
dduckoWhat do I need to do to install .deb files?08:54
LinuxNuberror: 'vm.swapiness' is an unknown key08:54
Blissexdducko: 'man dpkg'08:54
BlissexLinuxNub: two "p"s08:54
JakeofArkOk well than thank you but I have another question08:54
LinuxNublol08:54
JakeofArkHow do I mount hda1 (my windows filesystem) in Ubuntu?08:55
LinuxNubi had that line this whole time, i was just spelling it wrong08:55
floehi all... since I installed kernel 2.6.12 and madwifi (linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-k7) my wlan is broken. The driver loads but i can't ping any host. Anyone with the same problem or any idea?08:55
stjepanwolki: 25MB to download???08:55
LinuxNubwell i guess thats why im linux nub :p08:55
BlissexJakeofArk: nautilus should do that for you.08:55
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JakeofArkok....08:55
ColonelKernelhow do I come out of hibernate mode?08:55
JakeofArkhang on lemme see08:55
LinuxNubwow ubuntu flys now08:55
BlissexColonelKernel: at spring. :-)08:55
LinuxNub:) i like08:55
ColonelKernel:((08:56
HappyFool!windowsdrives08:56
ubotufrom memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically08:56
BlissexColonelKernel: in theory when you open your laptop and press the power button.08:56
LinuxNub!nvidia08:56
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ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:56
Blissex!make love08:56
ubotuBlissex: Are you on ritalin?08:56
JakeofArkWell I'm unable to get into my windows system08:56
Blissex:-)08:56
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ColonelKernelBlissex how about on a desktop?08:57
LinuxNubnubbe, what do u keeps ures set at?08:57
svuwhich package should I install to get /lib/modules/2.6.12-.../build/.config ?08:57
BlissexColonelKernel: should be the ''soft power'' button, but not sure.08:57
HappyFoolsvu: you probably need a linux-headers-386 package08:57
BlissexColonelKernel: try pressing the power button as if powering it up.08:58
HappyFoolsvu: i think you can find .config as /boot/config08:58
ColonelKernelcrap - that isnt working08:58
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nubbeLinuxNub, standard (60)08:58
HappyFoolsvu: make that /boot/config-<version>08:58
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BlissexColonelKernel: hibernate does not necessarily work that well, especially on a desktop.08:58
mik3hello08:58
svuHappyFool, thanks, I'll try08:58
ColonelKernelBlissex works great if I could get it to return :((08:58
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mik3i just moutned a 9 gig hard drive to this ubuntu box, where can i go for information on mounting this drive now that i have formatted it with qtparted08:59
LinuxNubnubbe, why?!?08:59
BlissexColonelKernel: in suspending, saving is easy, it is restoring that is hard.08:59
ColonelKernel:((08:59
mik3i just mounted a 9 gig hard drive to this ubuntu box, where can i go for information on mounting this drive now that i have formatted it with qtparted08:59
svuHappyFool, just not i386, powerpc64-smp :)08:59
Blissexmik3: edit '/etc/fstab', lots of HOWTOs on how to do that.08:59
LinuxNubunless ure running a server.. i could understand08:59
Blissexmik3: do not repeat a question more often than every 5 minutes./08:59
nubbeLinuxNub, why not09:00
spiderwormhi all, ive created a 32 bit chroot on my 64 bit machine, it appears there's nothing i cant do with the 32 bit chroot so far... is there a way to just replace the 64 bit environment with the 32?09:00
mik3i didn't repeat it. it was a correction09:00
LinuxNubdoes anyone know if nvidia-glx in the repos works with nvidia Rvia TNT2 Ultra?09:00
mik3Blissex : thanks =>09:00
Blissexmik3: if you want extra fast support response, quote your 15 second support response contract number or contact our sales team to open one.09:00
LinuxNubnubbe, running it at 10-20 rith anything about 256mb ram will increase response time dramatically09:00
nubbeLinuxNub, I usually don't have any swap at all, so it doesn't affect me09:00
Blissexspiderworm: basically total reinstall.09:00
mik3Blissex : cool, can i buy stock?09:01
spiderwormBlissex: oh ok nm09:01
Blissexspiderworm: but your 32 bit 'chroot' should ''just work''09:01
wolkirebooting09:01
svuHappyFool, you were right. it was headers09:01
Blissexspiderworm: in particular also look at http://WWW.Linuc-vserver.org/ for a really nice 'chroot' solution.09:01
spiderwormBlissex: heck yah it does, lots of testing to do still09:01
Blissexspiderworm: that was http://WWW.Linux-vserver.org/ oops09:02
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spiderwormBlissex: 32 bit chroot even does sound, 3d acceleration...09:03
Blissexspiderworm: 3D acceleration is a bit too much :-)09:03
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spiderwormBlissex: what do you mean?09:03
Blissexspiderworm: you are too lucky...09:03
spiderwormBlissex: am i?09:03
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neoprodigyCan anyone tell me where Synaptic Package Manager caches packages by default?09:04
dduckoIm haveing trouble getting totem-xine instaled, is there a way to get Synamptic to do it09:05
neoprodigyYa, just search for totem-xine09:05
neoprodigyand install it09:05
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Naliothneoprodigy: apt caches at /var/apt/cache i believe09:06
mik3ok so since i added this drive initially i would want to annotate the following in fstab: /dev/hdb1  /store  ext3  defaults <--is that correct so it mounts to /store every time i boot?09:06
neoprodigyNalioth, i don't have a /var/apt09:06
dduckoit doesnt show up in Synaptic thats the problem09:06
Naliothneoprodigy: hang ona minim09:06
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neoprodigydducko, make sure you have the necessary repositories09:07
Naliothmik3: looks like a good start09:07
chavoneoprodigy, it's /var/cache/apt09:07
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dduckoIve added the multiverse one.. is there another one?09:07
neoprodigychavo, ah, thanks09:07
Naliothneoprodigy: sorry, /var/cache/apt/09:07
Naliothdducko: just uni and multi09:07
neoprodigyNalioth, got it, thanks09:07
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chavoThe .debs will be in the archive directory09:07
mik3this is fun!09:08
mik3=D09:08
chavobut I think you have to tell it to save them, the default is to clean out the cache directory09:08
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Naliothchavo: i have all my debs in mine09:08
neoprodigydducko, I am using only the three official repositories, try removing and readding them, then hit relaod, totem-xine should come with the official release repositories09:08
chavoYeah, me too.09:09
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mik3yaay it worked!09:09
lassesandberghi people09:09
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lassesandbergcan someone help me? im pretty new in ubuntu, trying to get the gstreamer mp3 plugin, but i cant find it in the synaptic09:10
mik3Seveas can i tell you something in query please?09:10
mik3LasseL: update your repository09:10
mik3er09:10
HappyFoollassesandberg: you need to enable the universe repository09:10
mik3lassesandberg: update your respository09:10
kayfelixalsamixer settings are gone upon reboot - how do I make it permanent?09:10
mik3!tell lassesandberg about repositry09:11
HappyFoollassesandberg: you can read about this on the restrictedformats page, i believe09:11
mik3!tell lassesandberg about repository09:11
HappyFool!restricted09:11
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:11
mik3=/09:11
kayfelix!help me please09:11
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kayfelixubotu: no help on me please.09:12
ubotukayfelix: Bugger all, i dunno09:12
HappyFoolkayfelix: at a guess that is handled by /etc/init.d/alsa or /etc/init.d/alsasound09:12
Naliothkayfelix: what do you need?09:12
kayfelixon sec09:13
kayfelix<IEC958 C> is always unmuted - but i need it to stay muted09:14
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Lefungushello, I was wondering how to get colored text in the terminal, especially under ubuntu09:15
LefungusI know it's something like setting TERM="rxvt", but it seems my memory is failing09:16
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell nlogax about root09:16
LefungusI do get colors under things like 'ls', but not under vi09:16
HappyFoolkayfelix: alsa settings should be saved on shutdown automatically09:16
HappyFoolLefungus: in which terminal is this?09:17
Belutzanyone using vmware?09:17
LefungusHappyFool, gnome-terminal09:17
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kayfelixHappyFool: well they're definately not, that chip setting is OO everytime i restart09:17
ekimusLefungus: you mean syntax highlighting?09:18
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Lefungusyes09:18
HappyFoolkayfelix: the command which actually does this is 'alsactl' -- maybe you can test what 'sudo alsactl store' and 'sudo alsactl restore' do (without rebooting, i mean)09:18
ekimusLefungus: ":syntax on"09:18
kayfelixwhere does alsactrl store it?09:19
Lefungusekimus, it's not enabled by default for C files ?09:19
HappyFoolkayfelix: /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, according to the man page09:19
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell me about mp309:19
ekimusLefungus: afaik vim runs by default in compat mode which doesn't do highlighting09:19
Lefungushmm, it may explain a lots of things then09:19
Lefungusespecially why the TERM trick doesn't work :)09:20
ekimusLefungus: you may also want to set ":bs=2" this will make backspace work over newlines09:20
Lefungusthanks for the tip09:20
lassesandbergokay, i did what that site said, but i still cant find any gstreamer mp3 plugin in the list09:20
ekimusLefungus: and read thru the icr log on vi-improved.org09:20
Lefungusyup, :syntax on does work09:21
HappyFoolto get syntax highlight try ":wq!emacs<enter>M-xfont-lock-mode<enter>"09:21
HappyFool;)09:21
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HappyFoollassesandberg: it's called gstreamer0.8-mad, i think09:21
lassesandbergyeah, the site said that to. but it dont show up in the list, after i enabled the repositories that the site said :/09:22
ekimusHappyFool: emacs is cool, but vim is easier (no joke). because you don't have to know lisp to configure it...09:22
mik3lassesandberg : what's your problem again? it sounds vaguely familiar09:22
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LefungusI knew how to quit Emacs, that wasn't true with vi :D09:22
Lefungusin the first run09:22
djpanyone know what this message means when compiling, glade/interface.c:2065: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast?09:22
lassesandbergim trying to get the gstreamer mp3 plugin09:23
HappyFoollassesandberg: then it is likely that you have made an error. read the instructions carefully and try again; if it still doesn't work, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the paste-bin09:23
pepsibob_too, vmware works! :D09:23
Concord_DawnPoll: Best MTP?09:23
ekimusLefungus: was just the other way around here....using both, depends on what i'm doing...but then i have to change my WM at least 3 times a day to be happy ;)09:23
darkheartdjp It means exactly what it says =) but it's just a warning so you should be fine.09:23
HappyFooldjp: at a guess something like "char* a=23;" is being done09:23
lassesandbergokay, i will. i have no idea what the last you said means tho, im very new to linux :P09:23
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mik3well then you chose the right distribution09:24
HappyFoolekimus: there's something wrong with having to learn lisp to configure your editor? ;) (i'm not a big e-lisp fan)09:24
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HappyFoollassesandberg: fair enough. you can also put screenshots on the paste-bin, if you prefer09:25
HappyFool!paste-bin09:25
ubotuHappyFool: Not a clue09:25
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grimborghi!09:25
HappyFool!pastebin09:25
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:25
djp!pastebin09:26
ekimusHappyFool: nothing's wrong. it's just that i think it's overkill that you have to learn a programming language to configure your editor09:26
mik3ubuntu makes my peepee go, da doing doing doing09:27
ekimusHappyFool: but then... a friend of mine knows emacs and vim really very well. he stays with joe :)09:27
spolanothing beats gedit09:27
ekimusspola: i bet a really big magnet does exactly that :)09:28
djpHappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183509:28
grimborgi've installed the support for the galician language (gl_ES) but when I log in i receive the message "Language gl_ES.UTF-8 does not exist. Using system default.". I installed language-pack-gl and language-support-gl and checked the /etc/locale.gen file: gl_ES.UTF-8 is there. i ran locale-gen and gl_ES.UTF-8 was generated. I also ran dpkg-reconfigure locales. None of these worked so far. searched around in google but found no more things to09:28
grimborgtry. Any ideas on how to install the language or what may be wrong? thanks!!09:28
djpdarkheart: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183509:28
spola:p09:28
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kayfelixhappyfool: thanks, ill try it next time i reboot09:30
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ekimusspola: just fore the sake of the argument: how do you use gedit to fix a broken X installation?09:30
HappyFooldjp: is this an app you've written ?09:30
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HappyFoolekimus: he uses git-less gedit, of course09:31
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ekimusHappyFool: git-less?09:31
HappyFooled! ;)09:31
ekimus.... :)09:31
spolaekimus, SWOOSH09:32
ekimuslast week i had to fix a broken fstab on openbsd.... had to do it with sed because in the bsd.rd i couldn't find an editor quickly09:32
spolai'd take a liveCD but that's just me09:32
djpHappyFool: no it is the gens emulator09:33
darkheartdjp Looks like you're missing some package.09:33
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HappyFooldjp: maybe what darkheart said. are there any errors about missing #include files? (they'll probably occur early on)09:35
LinuxDoltis there a good reason why i don't have a /dev/hdc?  i do have a secondary master IDE device, a dvd-rom, i also have a secondary slave, a cdrw drive.  the secondary slave (/dev/hdd) does exist09:35
mik3is there a certain way i should be emptying the trash bin?09:35
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mik3LinuxDolt: add it to /etc/fstab?09:36
darkheartdjp Try to include a few more lines above the messages you pasted also.09:36
AristoMagnuscan someone tell me why my vfat are mounted but not in fstab ? where ubuntu configure that kind of mount09:36
LinuxDoltmik3: err, i'd be glad to, as soon as i have the device node09:36
HappyFoolLinuxDolt: is it in /proc/ide anywhere?09:36
pepsihow can i see how much memory i have?09:37
HappyFoolLinuxDolt: maybe in /proc/ide/ide109:37
lassesandbergsorry to distrub you guys again,i've done as the instructions said exactly, i have the universe repository enabled, but the mp3 plugin is not in the list.09:37
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pepsifree?09:37
HappyFoollassesandberg: ok, can you open 'gedit' (applications -> accessories -> text editor)09:37
LinuxDoltHappyFool: nope09:37
AristoMagnusforget my question, the vfat are there09:38
HappyFoolLinuxDolt: hmm. checked the ide connection/power supply to the device?09:38
pepsifree says i  have 488M.. thats an odd number... where would 24M get lost?09:38
djpdarkheart: i think it may be to do with gcc, i have just read that it cannot compile using gcc 3.3, which is what hoary uses by default. i will try and install gcc 2.95 and see if that helps...09:38
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lassesandbergyeah, got it open now09:38
AristoMagnusits the usb auto-mount that i dont find09:38
LinuxDoltHappyFool: their fine, the device runs flawlessly in windows09:38
HappyFoollassesandberg: ok, go to file -> open09:38
lassesandbergdone09:39
dtamasAre there anybody, who configured a citrix client on ubuntu? Which version fits with the default libxaw6?09:39
dtamasI'm using breezy09:39
HappyFoollassesandberg: double-click 'Filesystem' (on the left)09:39
lassesandbergdone09:39
darkheartdjp Yeah, that sounds like it makes sense =) try gcc 4.009:39
HappyFoollassesandberg: then in the list window on the right, double click 'etc', then 'apt' and then 'sources.list'09:39
HappyFoollassesandberg: you should see a file starting with 'deb cdrom <more stuff>'09:40
lassesandbergyup09:40
HappyFoollassesandberg: ok, leave that window open. point your browser to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:41
LinuxDoltappearantly we've run out of ideas...09:41
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lassesandbergokay, im there09:41
elvirolohi all09:41
HappyFoollassesandberg: copy and paste the text of the file (sources.list) into the large text-entry area on the web-page, and press 'send' (you can put you nick in the space, if you want)09:42
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mik3how do i modify file association? like mp3 files are opened by totem by default, i want them to be opened by bmp09:42
McScruffi know09:42
McScruffpick me09:42
McScruff:P09:42
spiderwormdamn im going to start chrooting everything that has 64 bit problems.  this is great09:42
McScruffits in kcontrol09:42
McScruffooo09:42
McScruffthis aint kubuntu09:42
lassesandberghttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183609:42
funkyHatmik3, right click on a file of the type you want to change the association for, click on properties, then click on the 'open with' tab at the top, then choose the program you want to use09:42
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HappyFoollassesandberg: ok, the only repository you appear to have enabled is the sourceforge.net wine repository09:43
ompaulLinuxDolt, you say you have /dev/hdd can you paste the contents of /etc/fstab for me to read along with the results of 'sudo fdisk -l' please09:43
lassesandbergargh, hmm. 2 secs :P09:44
HappyFoollassesandberg: anything with a '#' at the front is ignored in that file09:44
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dtamasWhat can I do, when I'm downdate a package from debian repo and the updater always want to renew it? I have to use the previous stable package!09:44
ompaulthe letter X09:44
Seveashehe09:44
lassesandbergahh doh, i know whats happend, i've mistaken theese ugly checkboxes for whats toggled and not. so i took all off instead of the wine one. now i feel kinda silly :p09:44
lassesandbergthere it is, gstreamer0.8-mad.09:45
lassesandbergthanks alot for the help09:45
tristanmikeCan someone help me understand why I can ping my router, but not the outsided world, but still surf? :)09:45
HappyFoollassesandberg: cool, np09:45
lassesandberghmm, one last question. cant i somewhere in the theme or something edit how thoose checkboxes look? so they look somehow normal?09:46
funkyHattristanmike, because your router is blocking pings ;)09:46
funkyHat:P09:46
LinuxDoltompaul: what does my /etc/fstab have to do with device detection?  as for fdisk, it doesn't show anything regarding hdc or hdd, only hdb and hda, and sda#, which are my hard drives09:46
HappyFoollassesandberg: maybe in system -> preferences -> themes, but i'm not sure09:46
dtamasNobody uses Citrix client on Ubuntu? I don't believe it!09:47
lassesandbergohh, playing mp'3s now.09:47
lassesandbergokay. i'll look at it, thanks alot again09:47
elviroloone of my friends has been having this prob (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14451) and I asked about it in the forums, I filled in a bug report ... but still no feedback ... it _is_ a rather severe problem though ... any ideas ?09:48
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grogoreohi09:48
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tristanmikefunkyHat, I'm pretty sure I could in windows, I know it's not windows but that why i wanna understand what's going on, thanx :)09:48
funkyHati don't have any other ideas, just winding you up :P09:49
funkyHatperhaps something to do with UPnP? or maybe your router not using it properly...09:49
grogoreoI have a package that I want to build/compile (http://www.jahshaka.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,14/Itemid,49/) and I know how to comile it (using the make script) but how can I make it into a deb? would I just compile it then convert to deb. How would i specify the dependenices? Or do you know of a good guide to compiling and making a deb please?09:50
tristanmikefunkyHat, :s09:50
tristanmikelol09:50
funkyHat(ok, so i just did have another idea)09:50
[DF2] how do i start up an internet connection... presuming i've setup the modem and everything elsr right?09:50
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elvirolodoes anyone know if the developpers are actively looking at bugs or not ? cause this is getting irritating (nothing to do with them, though)09:52
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puffelvirolo: No idea.09:53
[DF2] i finally setup eciadsl, my modem is synching, have a tap0, etc... maybe a silly question but now how can i start an internet connection?09:53
puffelvirolo: Actually, I do have an idea.09:53
elvirolopuff: do you ?09:54
puffelvirolo: I posted a bug a few weeks ago - maybe four weeks ago.09:54
elvirolo:-P09:54
grogoreoI'm going to comiple a program (jahshaka) and after I do the configure, then make should I then turn the files into a deb, instead of doing 'make install'?09:54
elviroloyes ...09:54
puffIt was a pretty obscure but - problem with resume-from-hibernate on a specific laptop.09:54
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puffAnd about three weeks later I got an email telling me one of the developers had looked at it and assigned it to somebody.09:54
puffSo that's about what I know.09:54
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puffI have another, more serious bug, that I've been meaning to psot the past several days, but the bugzilla doens't seem to be letting me.09:55
LinuxDoltompaul: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183709:55
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puffAnyway, to me, this indicates that the developers are at least *looking* at bugs.09:57
puffIf they got to an obscure bug like that within three weeks.09:57
elvirolopuff: ok, thanks :)09:58
spolameh they should make it easier for noobs to report bugs, im sure 80% just thinks "pfft im not gonna bother registering an account for this shit"09:58
spolawell i know i do09:59
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puffHm, I see;  the bugzilla for ubuntu universe is a different installation, needs a different login.10:00
puffspola: Yeah, but hey, what are you gonna do.10:00
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puffany alternative would amount to just having no controls at all.10:00
puffNothing preventing idiot script kiddies from bombarding you with bullshit.10:01
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juanmawhat is the bittorrent client installed with ubuntu hoary=10:01
juanma?10:01
puffMaybe some sort of CAPTCHA system and an installed-by-default bug-reporting tool?10:01
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puffCAPTCHA being those schemes where it displays a graphic and asks you to type in the word.10:02
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puffSomething like that, that would install maybe an SSL cert in your browser, would do the trick.10:02
GregAscheis there a tool to mass convert all .mp3 files in a directory to .wav files?10:03
cyphaseKatrina Public Web Project Wants Volunteers - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1855469,00.asp10:03
LinuxDoltGregAsche: the point?10:03
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GregAschei'm burning a copy of this cd I made, but i can't play .mp3 files in a cd player...10:05
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LinuxDoltno... that you cannot...  aren't there plugins for outputting what you're listening to to a file instead of audio output?  why don't you do that, set all the files up in a playlist, and just play them in your favorite audio player?10:06
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GregAschei don't know of any plugins that do that10:07
LinuxDoltwhat program do you use?  xmms?10:07
GregAscheamarok10:07
GregAschei have xmms installed10:07
GregAschei could use that10:08
LinuxDolti don't know anything about amarok...10:08
GregAscheis there a plugin for xmms?10:08
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LinuxDoltbut i'm certain there're disk writers for xmms10:08
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elviroloGregAsche: with this :   mpg123 -b 10000 -s "$1" | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c2 - "$2" ?10:09
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GregAschewhere do i run that?10:10
LinuxDoltGregAsche: from the terminal emulator10:10
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LinuxDoltGregAsche: and his solution will be the simplest :)10:11
elviroloGregAsche: well, in a terminal ... and you replace "$1" and "$2" by the appropriate filenames10:11
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GregAscheok10:11
GregAschethanks10:11
elvirolonp10:11
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elviroloof course, sox has to be installed10:11
GregAschei have it installed10:11
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c0rrupt_doesnt it suck10:12
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LinuxDoltelvirolo: is sox not installed by default in ubuntu?10:12
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Seveasc0rrupt_, use your nickserv password as channel password10:13
elviroloLinuxDolt: no, i don't think so10:13
Seveasthen you're identified in time for autojoins to work10:13
svuwho is maintaining kernel in ubuntu?10:13
Seveasthe kernel maintainers10:13
elviroloben something ? :-D10:13
LinuxDoltelvirolo: indeed it is not... *proceeds to install it* i just know i'm going to be needing it at some time or another10:14
Seveassvu, why do you need to know?10:14
svuSeveas, what is the right way to contact them?10:14
elviroloLinuxDolt: it's always useful :)10:14
Seveasdepends on the reason10:14
[DF2] how can i check to see if rp-pppoe is installed on my system?10:14
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svuSeveas, they included driver for acx_pci and forgot acx_usb. Is it a reason to register a bug?10:14
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Seveassvu, a wishlist bug i guess10:15
Whistlerhow do i install run files?10:15
Whistlersh filename?10:15
Whistleror smt like that?10:15
SeveasWhistler, what is it?10:15
[DF2] i've been trying to setup my modem for 3 long and stressful days now10:15
svuSeveas, well, probably you are right...10:15
[DF2] it finially seems to be setup ok now10:16
LinuxDoltanyways.  there are some new people around now, anyone have any ideas why i might be missing /dev/hdc when i have a secondary master ide device in the system, as well as a secondary slave, which i DO have the device file for, hdd?10:16
WhistlerSeveas its a game10:16
z0undshi, i need some help making fstab mount my ntfs partition at bootup, i did this in /etc/fstab : /dev/hda5       /mnt/d-drive    ntfs    ro,user,exec,suid,dev           0      0   (problem is it only allows root to view the folder)10:16
[DF2] i just need a little help getting the internet connection started.. can anyone please help10:16
[DF2] i'm on the edge of hurting myself10:16
LinuxDoltrelevant data: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183710:16
Seveasz0unds: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically10:16
Whistlerso how do i start *run files?10:17
Seveasremove all windows partitions from fstab prior to running the script10:17
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SeveasWhistler, chmod +x filename.run10:17
Seveas./filename.run10:17
elvirolowhoops10:17
bur[n] eranyone know how to get a new login in an XNest?10:18
mik3Seveas mind if i send you a query real quick?10:18
SololUbuntu really is an awesome distro10:18
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elviroloanyone knows when X will be fixed in breezy ?10:18
Seveasmik3, sure10:18
Seveaselvirolo, it should be fixed right now/real soon now10:19
z0undsokay Seveas: how do i run the script?10:19
diemanheh10:19
diemantour!10:19
diemantrying to see if the lug here is interesed10:19
diemaninterested10:19
diemanhopefully we still have an airline by november10:19
Gnonthgolelvirolo: they are giving out breezy in october sor...10:19
diemanand they don't go bankrupt or something10:19
durthow can i play videos in beep-media-player? the xmms-mplayer plugin doesnt seem to work10:19
elviroloSeveas: cause i have trouble compiling the kopete svn ... configure can't find my X includes, although they are installed10:20
Naliothz0unds: open the script in a text editor and read it10:20
z0undsSeveas: sry my bad i know10:20
Naliothz0unds: most things that end in .sh have instructions at the top of them (they're mostly fancy txt files)10:20
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Seveaselvirolo, what exactly can't it find?10:20
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Naliothdurt: to my knowledge, bmp is for audio only10:21
SeveasContinuumXLS, welcome ;)10:21
Naliothdurt: but i may be wrong10:21
ContinuumXLShey =D10:21
mik3no you're right10:21
elviroloSeveas: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!10:21
Naliothelvirolo: install "xlibs-dev"10:22
Seveastry: apt-get build-dep kopete10:22
LinuxDoltvlc is the king of video playback.  why try anything else?10:22
QMarioHow do I run an executable?10:22
ContinuumXLSI'll be right back - have to get ready for work10:22
Seveasthat installs all build dependencies10:22
SeveasQMario, /path/to/executable10:22
Pickle_Weaselis there an equalizer for rhythmbox?10:22
Seveasif it's in the current dir: ./executable10:22
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GnonthgolQMario: what is the problem?10:22
jfosais there a way to  'lock' the system?10:22
durti copied the xmms-mplayer .so files to the bmp input directory, but bmp still wont play videos, whereas xmms will - oh well10:22
elviroloNalioth: oh thanks10:23
LinuxDoltdurt: why don't you go give vlc a whirl?  it's a much better program imo10:23
Naliothjfosa: log out10:23
jfosaokay found it, thanks :)10:23
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OneSeventeenI'm in the states and am getting a custom license plate for a Mazda 6, any clever geeky ideas?  (max 7 characters)10:24
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LinuxDoltas far as video playback goes, that is.  bmp is the best for audio playback10:24
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marcin_antelvirolo, hi10:24
OneSeventeen(I figured the ubuntu channel would be geeky enough to come up with good suggestions)10:24
durtlinuxdolt: and is vlc any good with audio? i have it but prefer totem for video10:24
marcin_antelvirolo, what's wrong with X on breezy?10:24
gnumdksome ubuntu devels in the place?10:24
QMarioGnonthgol, I figured it out! Thank you Seveas! :)10:24
hmrochamarcin_ant, i have breezy and X is working fine10:24
NaliothOneSeventeen: how bout "ubuntu"?10:24
LinuxDoltdurt: vlc really isn't designed for audio, although i assume it can play audio10:25
marcin_anthmrocha, I have breezy too on desktop and laptop and X is working fine too10:25
SeveasOneSeventeen, Ubuntu10:25
Seveas:D10:25
OneSeventeenI thought about that, but haven't decided yet... I've also thought about "APTGET6" since it is going on a 610:25
marcin_anthmrocha, so, I don't know what can be wrong with X in breezy10:25
Pickle_Weaselis there an equalizer for rhythmbox?10:25
OneSeventeenThere will definitely be an Ubuntu logo on the front license plate, since my state doesn't require a real license plate up there.10:25
mik3anyone ever notice cp is slower than drag and drop copying?10:25
durtok,  well i was just looking for a way to get a good all-in-one media player10:26
Kyralmik3, not for going through like 12 directories10:26
Kyralor batch copies10:26
LinuxDoltOneSeventeen: how about IR1337?10:26
Kyralor anything really :D10:26
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GnonthgolOneSeventeen: what about "wlanmob"?10:26
mik3what would the syntax to copy all certain files in all directorys?10:26
elviroloNalioth: thx it worked10:26
mik3so you're saying typing cd * is faster than clicking on *10:26
rob_pOneSeventeen:  or, "RTFM"10:26
czeslawhello10:26
Kyral"certain" files?10:27
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Naliothelvirolo: np10:27
OneSeventeenGnonthgol: if I were going to put wireless on it, I might... (and I haven't decided yet if I'm going to go through the effort of a car pc)10:27
mik3yeah, im going through all of my cd's copying mp3 files to drive10:27
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LinuxDoltmik3: yes, typing is faster than clicking :D10:27
mik3lies!10:27
Naliothdurt: vlc will play anthing, but has little "bling" (addons)10:27
LinuxDoltnever!10:27
OneSeventeenrob_p: I have a personal vendetta against RTFM, it is my goal to strip it from the geek language.... :p10:27
OneSeventeenI can use a plus sign and spaces as well (plus comes out as a "zia symbol")10:28
rob_pOneSeventeen:  he, he :-)10:28
NaliothOneSeventeen: how bout "jfgi"  ? lol10:28
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czeslawi'm starting to fight with my acer laptop and battery status support. wish me luck10:28
SeveasOneSeventeen, great10:28
OneSeventeenmaybe "NO RIAA" or "NO MPAA"10:28
mik3woot acer10:28
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Seveasthat's just the attitude we need in here, ban the RTFM :)10:28
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czeslawyes, i arleady know, acer + linux = sux10:28
mik3cp: reading `Bighose Presents-Jasmine St. Claire Awesome Anal & Deep Thro.mpg': Input/output error10:28
mik3oops10:28
Seveas"NO RIAA" would rock :)10:28
mik3mispaste10:29
z0undsHey i ran the automaticly-mount-ntfs-drives-script and i still dont have access to them as normal user??10:29
Seveasmik3, eek10:29
czeslawbut i want to fight, anyway10:29
LinuxDolthow about BSB?  (Bush Sucks Balls)10:29
durtwith bmp/xmms i can adjust the sound with presets and heaphone plugins, etc. is that possible in vlc?10:29
Seveasz0unds, did you remove them from fstab prior to running the script?10:29
mik3so yeah, these mp3's that i'm copying, seems the cd's are corrupt10:29
LinuxDolti think most geeks agree with that statement ;)10:29
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helenkahi there10:29
Naliothmik3: BUSTED! lolol10:29
OneSeventeenyeah, my wife won't let me get the "negative" ones... so NO RIAA and NO MPAA are not an option (neither is LIBCSS)10:29
mik3teehee10:29
z0undsSeveas: i removed the thing i made myself and ran the script with sudo10:30
helenkaplease does anyone have experience with installing ac 97 with Intel 82801BA chip?10:30
helenkaor any page perhaps.10:30
helenka?10:30
OneSeventeenLinuxDolt: as a dissinterested geek, I actually don't care much about politics... I complain too much when I get involved :p10:30
lakcajhelenka, did you try alsaconf as root?10:30
LinuxDoltOneSeventeen: haha10:30
Naliothlets try to keep politics out of here, please10:30
helenkalakcaj: not yet will do it right now10:30
OneSeventeenor AMD64 but then I'd have to change myplate as I upgrade!10:30
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Seveasz0unds, put your current fstab on the pastebin together with the output of mount10:31
LinuxDolteh?  AMD64 shall remain immortal!10:31
NaliothOneSeventeen: AMDPWNS10:31
lakcajhelenka, after alsaconf, if everything went fine, run alsamixer and make sure the channels are unmuted and turned up.10:31
djphow do i change my bpp? i want to reduce it to 16bpp10:31
OneSeventeenNalioth: that's actually a really good one I hadn't thought of!10:31
z0undsSeveas: what do you mean by output of the mount?10:31
GnonthgolOneSeventeen: what about "MS DoS"?10:31
LinuxDoltGnonthgol: lol, that's perfect!10:32
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OneSeventeenGnonthgol: their last "stable" OS... not a bad idea! (j/k don't want to start MS bashing here)10:32
LinuxDoltMicrosoft Denial of Service :D10:32
Gnonthgollol10:32
OneSeventeenor simply GPL10:32
BjornWcan I just change the /var mount by  remounting it to a new hd?10:32
Seveasz0unds, run mount (without arguments) in a terminal10:32
Seveasthe output of that :)10:33
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helenkalakcaj: I don't have alsaconf but alsamixer10:33
LinuxDoltOneSeventeen: for some reason i doubt that MS bashing will carry any consequences around here...10:33
djphow can i change my color depth to 16bit under hoary?10:33
helenkahow can I demute the alsa there?10:33
h0sl3rHelp. I just installed Apache2 with php4 using ubuntuguide.org and php is not working. Do I have to edit anything?10:33
helenkaxmms appears to be playing, however it is mute10:33
OneSeventeenLinuxDolt: yeah, but it's like beating a dead/closed source horse...10:33
lakcajhelenka, press m when you have the channel highlighted10:33
helenka... no sound is comming out10:33
LinuxDoltunless it got out of hand, of course10:33
NaliothLinuxDolt: ms-bashing (overt) goes in #ubuntu-offtopic (where you can get really nasty)10:33
BjornWhow can I mount /var to a new hd?10:34
ContinuumXLSWhere can I find the plugin to listen to mp3 files? I want to use my Ipod on my ubantu comp10:34
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delmonicohey :)10:34
Nalioth!tell ContinuumXLS about restricted10:34
durthelenka, you may have to change the output to alsa10:34
durtin xmms10:34
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NaliothContinuumXLS: check your Priv msgs10:34
ContinuumXLSHow?10:34
delmonicoI have problems installing hoary on my new FSC Amilo Pro V8010 notebook :( the installer doesnt find the CDROM. I tried to locate it on the console, apparently the SATA HDD and DVD-RW drives are not working :( any ideas?10:34
elvirolothat's something ... i _never_ managed to read *anything* with totem ... eveything works with xine / amarok / kaffeine though10:35
ContinuumXLSOh, thanks10:35
z0undsSeveas: i think i know my problem, i didnt umount it before i did the script :)10:35
lakcajhelenka, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss10:35
Seveasz0unds, check :)10:35
lakcajhelenka, alsaconf10:35
h0sl3rHelp. I just installed Apache2 with php4 using ubuntuguide.org and php is not working. Do I have to edit anything?10:35
lakcajhelenka, alsamixer10:35
z0undsSeveas: brb logoff/login ^_^10:35
lakcajhelenka, I guess that should be sudo alsaconf10:35
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OneSeventeenh0sl3r: did you install apache2's mod_php4 or whatever it's called?10:36
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ContinuumXLSThanks for the help!10:36
ContinuumXLS I have to go10:36
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h0sl3rOneSeventeen: yeah10:36
helenkadidn't have alsa-oss installed10:37
helenkawill do that now10:37
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OneSeventeenh0sl3r: did you also install like 2 or 3 other php4 related items?  (I remember having to install a bunch of packages like php4 php4-dev apache2_mod_php4 and a few others....)10:38
tearhi, I kinda need some help :/10:38
OneSeventeenh0sl3r: those packages are fake, not the real names for them because I forgot10:38
durtask tear10:38
OneSeventeen(just wanted to throw a disclaimer in there!)10:38
helenkathank you for help will do it :)10:38
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TheMagnumMunkeyhey, i need sum help installing the moodin engine for kde.10:38
lakcajhelenka, working now?10:38
z0undsSeveas: works :)10:38
tearwell I was AFK during most of the installation, and I just switched to Ubunto, and it never asked me to enter a root password10:38
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helenkanot yet ... try it just now10:39
lakcajok10:39
elvirolo!tell tear about root10:39
elvirololol10:39
TheMagnumMunkey...10:39
lakcajwhat's the bot's name in this channel?10:39
z0undshow do i start a VNC server?10:40
mik3!tell lakcaj your name10:40
h0sl3rOneSeventeen: I followed the ubuntuguide.org instructions. I have libapache2-mod-php4, and php4 installed. you say i need php4-dev too?10:40
Gnonthgolubotu tell lakcaj abotu ubotu10:40
Nalioth!tell lakcaj about ubotu10:40
AristoMagnusfreenode'ubotu10:40
Seveasz0unds, I know it works10:40
lakcajthanks :)10:40
SeveasI wrote it :)10:40
h0sl3rOneSeventeen: i also have php4-common10:40
z0undsSeveas: Nice :D:D10:40
OneSeventeenh0sl3r: I was thinking of php4-common, not php4-dev, sorry about that10:40
mik3going through a box of burnt cd's for misc. video and music is like treasure hunting10:40
mik3it makes me go 'arrrrrr, avast ye!'10:40
elviroloSeveas: he 's great :) how do i get the list of the commands one can pass him ?10:41
Seveasz0unds, system -> prefs -> remote desktop10:41
z0undsSeveas, i have a problem with captive-ntfs, i dosnt compile the LUFS kernel modules correctly, what can i do?10:41
OneSeventeenh0sl3r: I really don't know what else to say, forgetting to install everything was my mistake, once I installed them, php worked fine...10:41
Seveasz0unds, i've never seen captive+ubuntu work10:41
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Naliothz0unds: captive ntfs is bad.10:41
z0undsNalioth, anything i should use instead?10:41
OneSeventeenh0sl3r: sorry, that's the only idea I had.... is it just displaying the PHP scripts code isntead of executing it?  or does it spit out errors?10:42
h0sl3rOneSeventeen: could you open synaptic and see which apache and php packages you have installed for me?10:42
Naliothz0unds: for what?10:42
h0sl3rOneSeventeen: yeah its making me download the file and not showing what is supposed to be shown.10:42
LinuxDoltthis is extremely annoying...  there must be some way to delay autojoin until automatic nickserv identification10:42
z0undsNalioth, writing to ntfs drives :)10:42
NaliothLinuxDolt: what client?10:42
Naliothz0unds: use Windows XP10:42
OneSeventeenh0sl3r: Unfortunately I installed PHP on another computer and have formatted it since then.  (I decided not to use my laptop as a server...  I was just playing with it for a while)10:42
LinuxDoltNalioth: x-chat10:43
NaliothLinuxDolt: see the xchat forums, (i run irssi, and dont know much about delays)10:43
z0undsNalioth, i deleted that and used the partition for ubuntu :)10:43
SeveasLinuxDolt, use your nickserv password as server password10:43
h0sl3rok10:43
Seveasthen you're immediately identified10:43
Seveasand autojoins work :)10:43
Naliothz0unds: then why do you want to write to NTFS, if you havent got any partitions of NTFS?10:44
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mik3haha10:44
h0sl3rDoes anyone know how to get php4 to work with apache2 on ubuntu? I think I installed all the right packages, but it still wont work.10:44
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zukalk!lamp10:45
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP10:45
Seveash0sl3r, libapache2-mod-php410:45
h0sl3rSeveas: allready have that installed10:45
priesti'm trying to get a atheros wlan to work in hoary, but i'm getting this error: "ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1" what can i do?10:45
z0undsNalioth, because windows was on 1 out of 3 NTFS partitions, so that if i deleted the windows partition i wouldnt loose the files on the others :)10:45
h0sl3rzakulk: ill look into that10:45
Gnonthgol!your name10:46
ubotuMy name is ubotu.10:46
Carpe_Libertatem!my name10:46
ubotufrom memory, my name is ubotu10:46
Naliothz0unds: i believe you are out of luck10:46
Gnonthgoldone that to10:46
Naliothz0unds: google "barts pe disk"10:46
Naliothz0unds: or get someone to gift you with partition magic (converts filesystems)10:47
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z0undsNalioth, but isnt partition magic for windows? :)10:47
Naliothz0unds: PM is os-agnostic10:48
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Gnonthgolz0unds: one tip, bootup disks10:49
jobliok10:49
Gnonthgolok?10:49
mik3i have bart pe somewhere10:49
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NaliothMrGardenHoseMan: are you using moodin .4.1?10:51
anasizonhow do I set my screen resolution to 1024x768, the option is not there in the resolution system tool10:51
Nalioth!tell anasizon about resolution10:52
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anasizonthanks nalioth10:52
MrGardenHoseManisn't that for kde?10:52
NaliothMrGardenHoseMan: sorry, got a buncha windows open, and missent10:53
MrGardenHoseManahh hehe10:53
MrGardenHoseMannp10:53
NaliothMrGardenHoseMan: didnt mean to wake you up10:53
helenkalakcaj: can't find alsaconf anywhere10:54
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helenkahave only alsamixeer10:54
z0undscan i make a folder on the desktop that shows the content of /media/mounted-partition ?10:54
Seveasz0unds, cd ~/Desktop10:55
bur[n] erz0unds: make a shortcut10:55
Seveasln -s /media/something10:55
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nitriumhello10:55
z0undsthx :D10:55
elvirolonitrium: hi10:56
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bur[n] eranyone have any luck with qemu & kqemu in breezy?  <---i get make errors10:56
JazyLNXhey guys10:56
Gnonthgol!my name10:56
ubotuYour name is gnonthgol!10:56
JazyLNXanyone run any snes emu in ubuntu10:56
JazyLNXwhich would be the easiest to install.10:56
bur[n] erJazyLNX: zsnes10:57
elvirolo!bot abuse10:57
ubotu[bot abuse]  a bannable offense10:57
bur[n] erJazyLNX: sudo apt-get install zsnes10:57
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z0undsis there a movie-player that supports divx or xvid or where can i download the plugins for it for Totem ?10:58
hmrochaz0unds, install gstreamer0.8-plugins10:58
Seveasz0unds, use totem-xine + w32codecs10:59
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JazyLNXbur[n] er,  not avlible but avlible through another package10:59
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JazyLNXi searched for it in apt. and nothing11:00
JazyLNXi did find snes9x11:00
Carpe_Libertatemcongrats11:01
aTypicalHello all.  I'm trying to boot the LIVE CD, but am having trouble.  It gets to loading HAL but then nothing.  Anyone know what would cause that?11:01
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helenkawell can't do anything about it today will try it tommorow.  Thank you everybody  for help and will log-on t.  See ya :)11:01
lakcajWhy does ubuntu remove alsaconf from alsa-utils?11:02
Fanskapethmm anyone have a working rc.d script for pvpgn around?11:03
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imfuedsfalicI need to get a promt but all I get on boot is a graphical prompt to enter my username11:04
z0undsSeveas, where do i get w32codecs11:05
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elviroloz0unds: backports?11:05
LasseL!backports11:06
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:06
zukalkmy ubuntu has been working slower over time. is this normal (like on winblows)?11:06
z0undsokay :)11:06
Naliothimfuedsfalic: hit ctrl-alt-f311:06
Fanskapetzukalk what do you mean by that?11:06
imfuedsfalicThanks nalioth11:06
Fanskapetzukalk no it's not normal11:06
Fanskapetjust if you install alot of crap11:06
pabqashey.  Could someone help me please.  There are a million ways it seems to do NAT with 2 network adapters with a subnet and a public ip.  I want to do nat with one machine in college that has a college ip, but it's also it's public ip .... how do I best achieve this and how best do I set up ubuntu as a network gateway?11:06
Fanskapetas linux would be aswell.. when installed alot of crap that is11:07
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zukalkFanskapet, takes more time to load after GDM logon, apps seem heavier too11:07
Fanskapetzukalk probably overlasting your computer's memory11:07
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zukalkFanskapet, even with 1GB ram?11:07
Fanskapetexeding your physical memory and using swap more.11:07
sorush20hi..11:07
Seveasz0unds, hoary-extras11:08
z0undsubotu, the sites seem to be down11:08
ubotuz0unds: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:08
z0undseh?11:08
zukalkFanskapet, isn't there anyting like a hdd defrag tool?11:08
Fanskapethmm well.. dunno.. maybe your apps reads alot from your hardware11:08
Seveasz0unds, ubotu is a bot11:08
sorush20how can I download miniDV form my handy cam Using USB 2.0 rather that firewire since I don't have firewire11:08
z0undslol11:08
Fanskapetzukalk hmm there is.. but ext drives doesn't get much defragmented.11:08
Seveas!ubotu11:08
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:08
zukalkFanskapet, i'm talking about normal apps, like browsers, gaim, etc11:08
Fanskapetso there's actually no need to defrag the drive.11:08
sorush20why doesn't firefox save my emails on yahoo and hotmail when I have tryped it and accidently go back to forward to a page using the same email composing tab?11:08
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rob_ppabqas:  Here's an Internet Connection Sharing how-to written specifically for Ubuntu if you're interested: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/28/76/11:08
Fanskapetzukalk, then it's not normal.11:08
zukalkdamn11:09
Fanskapetzukalk still.. gnome is pretty slow to begin with.11:09
Fanskapetzukalk try xfce11:09
pabqasrob_p: cool.  thanks I'll check it out.  I'm going crazy ... I had it all set up with RH 9, but the system sucked.11:09
Seveasrob_p, ics is easy: install firestarter and tick 'enable ics'11:09
pabqasNow the system is sweet but all my machines are internetless!11:09
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z0undsSeveas, still dosnt work11:09
LasseLyeah, gnome could use a feature freeze for a couple of releases and a full focus on optimizations11:09
zukalkFanskapet, can the fact that i have Ubuntu and windblows in the same physical disc explain that?11:09
Seveaspabqas, then install firestarter :)11:10
rob_pSeveas:  Yes, it is!11:10
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Seveasz0unds, what's the error?11:10
Fanskapetzukalk no that has nothing to do with that since you got them on different partitions.11:10
pabqasI'm doing it remotely from ssh11:10
Naliothbrb11:10
Fanskapetzukalk running some strange docking app on gnome?11:10
zukalknope11:10
Fanskapeteg.. cpu stat plugin or something.11:10
zukalkon the contrary Fanskapet11:11
LasseLzukalk, samba shares?11:11
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zukalkLasseL, yes11:11
zukalkLasseL, one shared folder11:11
imfuedsfalicafter installation I cannot log into any of my accounts11:11
z0undsSeveas, "couldnt find the source-package-list" - it's in danish so you wouldnt understand11:11
Seveasz0unds, apt-get update11:11
zukalkactually, two, LasseL11:11
LasseLzukalk, I find my machine freezes sometimes, but that goes away if I reconnect to the samba shares11:11
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Fanskapethmm samba should not be a problem like that.11:12
zukalkLasseL, freezes how? completely?11:12
z0undsSeveas,  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found11:12
elvirolowhat's ghosting anyway?11:12
LasseLnautilus hangs ... can't get a simple 'ls' through in a terminal window even on other mounts11:12
elvirolowhoops wrong chan11:12
vader1102what does it meen when totem tellls me" Could not open resource for writing.11:12
Seveasz0unds, hoary-extras is not on archive.ubuntu.com11:13
sorush20 /umode +CE11:13
z0undsk backports works11:13
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Fanskapethmm backports really sucks.11:13
Seveasz0unds, try ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net for hoary-extras11:13
zukalkFanskapet, i used to think that until i switched to the official backports11:13
anasizonrestarting x now... hope it works11:13
Fanskapetjust feels bad using backports.. would get in big problems probably when updating ubuntu at a later stage11:13
z0unds!backports11:13
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:13
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Fanskapeti just use the official sources and then compile / install the other apps myself11:14
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Fanskapetmuch better and safer.. then you always know where the stuff is placed and so on..11:14
Fanskapetmore control over the os.11:14
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Nalioth<sigh>11:14
Naliothmuch better11:14
LasseLz0unds, #ubuntu-dk ?11:14
Naliothnow to chase the dog11:14
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vader1102Nalioth, what does it meen when totem tells me that it could not open the source for writing?11:15
Fanskapetah just found a perfect ssh-ftp client for windows11:16
Naliothvader1102: it can't find whatever you pointed it at11:16
FanskapetWinSCP seems to rock really.11:16
NaliothFanskapet: ubuntu?11:16
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Fanskapetno for windows.11:16
zukalkFanskapet, i always liked SmartFTP11:16
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vader1102hmmmmmm ok, it is on my USB disk and it is going through my usb 2.0 card11:16
NaliothFanskapet: i recommend filezilla to my windows-encumbered friends11:16
Fanskapethmm well i use Total commander for the minor stuff like connecting to my xbox and then FlashFXP11:16
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Naliothvader1102: mebbe it doesnt know how to negotiate usb alleyways11:17
vader1102k11:17
Fanskapetbut WinSCP was very light.. and well.. as im a previus Be user i like it *light* the only right way :)11:17
vader1102is there a how to, to get that working right?11:17
imfuedsfalicI cannot log in as root or my user ( I just installed and remember what I set up as)11:17
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Gnonthgolvader1102: do you have ntfs on the udb?11:18
Gnonthgol*usb11:18
vader1102nooooo it is fat3211:18
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Carpe_Libertatemimfuedsfalic: Why do you need to get on root?11:18
durthttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_go_co/katrina_black_lawmakers11:18
Lebanonis there any package to install windows on my ubuntu ?11:18
vader1102I know the probs with ntfs11:18
Lebanonlike virtual pc or something11:18
imfuedsfalicI wanted to set up a user to log into because the one I set up is not working11:18
Carpe_LibertatemLebanon: Know packages I know of.11:19
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SeveasLebanon, qemu11:19
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FanskapetSeveas hmm.. why not wmware? :)11:19
Seveassearch for qemu on the wiki to find a howto11:19
Lebanonhmm11:19
GnonthgolLebanon: try wine11:19
Seveasqemu is free/open11:19
thrushLebanon, isnt vmware free for linux?11:19
FanskapetSeveas that's true :)11:19
Carpe_Libertatemimfuedsfalic: type sudo adduser11:19
Seveasthrush, ni11:19
Fanskapetwmware is alot better though :)11:19
Xanthus7No vmware cost money11:20
imfuedsfaliccarpe: at the login promt?11:20
Pickle_Weaselwin2lin > all11:20
Lebanonguys11:20
Pickle_Weaselyou have to pay for win2lin, though11:20
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Pickle_Weaselbut it's the best i've found11:20
Carpe_Libertatemimfuedsfalic: Try logging into root, using the password you setup before11:20
hussamdoes anybodu know if there is a gui frontend for qemu?11:20
Xanthus7Thrush can I pm you please11:20
thrushXanthus7, np11:20
imfuedsfalicCarpe: ahhh the problem exactly I cannot login it says wrong password11:21
LebanonPickle_Weasel: they accept credit card?11:21
Fanskapethttp://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5845905.html11:21
Fanskapetcrap11:21
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Pickle_Weaseluh...i don't know, i'm guessing they do11:22
Pickle_Weaselwhat sucks is that you need to have an actual retail copy of windows to install11:22
Pickle_Weaseland it only supports XP Pro and 200o Pro11:22
Pickle_Weasel2000*11:22
FatDarrelwhat ?11:22
LebanonXP is fine11:23
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Carpe_Libertatemimfuedsfalic: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html - that might help11:23
imfuedsfaliccarpe :  thanks11:24
GnonthgolFanskapet: det er jo berre  sette opp ein spoof server11:24
Xanthus7Need some minor help  with kde  I need to find where I set fonts to I can enlarge the text11:24
FanskapetGnonthgol, hmm well jag har en pvpgn server uppsatt hos mig.11:24
Fanskapetfonkar prima :)11:25
Fanskapetdock s r rc.d scriptet ej funktionabelt som fljer med11:25
Carpe_LibertatemIf I forget my password - am I done for?11:25
Fanskapeto de r lite illa vet inte riktigt hur jag ska f skiten att starta vid bootning.. kanske fr knpa ihop ett eget.11:25
ompaulCarpe_Libertatem, no11:25
vader1102what extension do I need to totem gstreamer to do mp3's?11:25
Carpe_Libertatemompaul: What do I do then?11:25
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Xanthus7Need some minor help  with kde  I need to find where I set fonts to I can enlarge the text11:26
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GnonthgolFanskapet: det er ikkje s vanskelig  lage ein startup script, berre skj p dei eksisterende og kopier11:26
ompaulCarpe_Libertatem, thought you'd never ask :) okay first up you need to reboot, to get the machine into single user mode11:27
FanskapetGnonthgol hmm well well det som fljer med pvpgn fungerar inte11:27
FanskapetGnonthgol har du ett som fungerar som du kan dcca?11:27
Gnonthgolnei11:27
ompaulCarpe_Libertatem, when there you need to type the following command 'passwd your_username'11:27
bibi2is it possible to use your windows xp desktop (already installed) in ubuntu?11:27
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ompaulCarpe_Libertatem, then you reboot again11:28
Gnonthgolbibi2: both is stored in dir.s but ubuntu dont have the .lnk11:28
LasseL!restrictedformats11:29
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'11:29
LasseL!codecs11:29
ubotuhmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:29
bibi2Gnonthgol:  so the answer is no. Ok, what about reverse, access and use ubuntu desktop (already installed) in windows xp11:30
ompaulCarpe_Libertatem, to get into single user mode you need to press escape in the grub menu and choose rescue - is that enough info foryou?11:30
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tearcould anyone tell me how to set folder permissions by terminal command?11:33
Gnonthgolbibi2: the dir. is /home/<user>/Desktop in ubuntu and c:\Documents and settings\<user>\desktop ubuntu does not have suport for the shortcuts11:33
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imfuedsfalicompaul; thanks I am trying it11:33
Gnonthgoltear: chmod premisions file11:33
Xanthus7Anyone in here help  me with kde please11:34
NaliothXanthus7: have to ask a quetstion first11:35
thrushtear, apropos is a handy tool when looking for the right command11:35
bibi2Gnonthgol: I should be more clearer - i'm asking if it's possible to use windows xp inside ubuntu -not just accessing files from xp installing in ubuntu11:35
hussamDoes anybodu know if there is a gui frontend for qemu?11:35
Xanthus7frist question I changed the right click button and cannot find where to change it back at11:36
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Carpe_Libertatemhussam: There's none I have seen.11:37
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tearthanks thrush and Gnonthgol11:37
Gnonthgol!tell bibi2 about wine11:37
Naliothhussam: kqemu, perhaps?11:37
Xanthus7Can anyone help me with my question11:37
delmonicoman ich knnt kotzen der schei sata controller macht rger11:37
delmonicosorry wrong window :P11:38
imfuedsfaliccarpe and ompaul: I have added a user with the rescue prompt but "passwrd" and passwd" are both commands not found11:38
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hawkingwhat is "gnome-video-thu"? I see it when I write the command "top" ... what is this programme?11:38
Lebanon!tell Lebanon about wine11:39
Lebanon:P11:39
diemanthank god for fai. ive installed about 120 ubuntu machines in the last two weeks :)11:39
Carpe_Libertatemimfuedsfalic: passwd should work11:39
ompaulyou did not want to add a user you wanted to 'passwd username' for your user - and if you can't do it its just me being silly - mount -a please11:39
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imfuedsfalicsorry it worked thanks11:40
Xanthus7Nalioth I asked my question and got no response does that mean no has an answer11:41
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ompaulimfuedsfalic, you did not want to add a user you wanted to 'passwd username' for your user - and if you can't do it its just me being silly - mount -a please11:41
hawkingnoone knows what it is? I see "gnome-video-thu" I can't kill it cause I don't know its exact name I just see this part11:41
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Xanthus7frist question I changed the right click button and cannot find where to change it back at can some please answer this11:42
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Pistache`hawking: use xkill11:43
Fanskapethmm anyone here that is able to connect to ubuntuforums ?11:43
Xanthus7frist question I changed the right click button and cannot find where to change it back at can some please answer this11:43
SeveasXanthus7, we can't do anything with that11:44
GnonthgolFanskapet: works for me11:44
Seveasbe a bit more specific...11:44
Fanskapethmm not for me.11:44
Xanthus7ok  thank you last one is there a place to change the font size in kde11:44
funkyHatwhat would i put in boot.ini in order to make it boot from a CD drive?11:45
funkyHat(no, i can't do it in the bios)11:45
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Lebanonbtw I cann't join as root ?:|11:45
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Seveaswelcome sofia :)11:46
GnonthgolfunkyHat: grub dont have suport for the cd fs11:46
sofiahi, i have a problem with vhcs, anybody can help me11:46
sofiahi11:46
funkyHatGnonthgol, i have windows installed currently, i want to install linux instead11:46
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kayfelixfunkyhat: then install windows11:47
kayfelix*linux11:47
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funkyHatkayfelix, read my messages above ^11:47
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kayfelixfunkyHat: good idea11:47
sofiai have a problem with vhcs, anyone can help me11:47
kayfelixfunkyHat: nah still dont know what your problem is11:48
Seveassofia, it helps if you state the problem11:48
GnonthgolfunkyHat: all bios can boot from cdrom, try F12, F2, Del, C any of thease can boot in cdrom or get into bios11:48
Fanskapethmm11:48
thrushfunkyHat, can you boot from floppy?11:48
funkyHati can't boot from the CD rom drive because i can't get into the bios for the PCI IDE controller11:48
kayfelixNalioth: im back mummy11:48
vader1102funkyHat, if you go into your BIOS, and set the boot order to boot from CD then it will11:48
funkyHatvader1102, ^PCI IDE11:48
vader1102hmmm11:49
kayfelixfunkyHat: why cant you get set CDRom as a boot option in your bios?11:49
funkyHatbecause it has a PCI IDE11:49
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funkyHatcontroller11:49
funkyHatwhich isn't managed by the bios11:49
funkyHatand i can't get into the configuration for the PCI IDE11:49
kayfelixfunkyHat: so... cant you connect it to the ide controller?11:50
kayfelixfunkyHat: or doesnt your mb have one?11:50
vader1102is there a way of getting the CD ROM on the MB?11:50
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sofiawhen i try when attempt to enter myweb.com, I need that it goes to his respective index11:50
Fanskapetodd.11:51
Fanskapet36 bytes from gw3-no88.tbcn.telia.com (81.233.194.1): Destination Host Unreachable11:51
sofiasince this takes my localhost to me11:51
Fanskapetthat i get when pinging ubuntuforums from my router11:51
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sofiaI am testing of local way11:51
funkyHatthe MB does have IDE controllers, but 1, they are ata33, the PCI is ata100, 2, they aren't picking up the cdrom11:51
funkyHati don't want to remove the PCI IDE controller, because chances are i won't be able to plug the drives back into that after installing linux without breaking everything11:52
vader1102well, is the CD ROM working?11:52
funkyHatit works in the PCI controller from inside windows11:53
hawkingwhy was w32codecs removed from the repositories??11:53
kayfelixfunkyHat: check the PCI IDE CARD's handbook, perhaps it tells you about jumpers you have to set to make it "bootable"11:53
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vader1102ty kayfelix that's what I was typing lol11:53
vader1102funkyHat, google it11:53
funkyHatok11:53
sofiaI need that when puts myweb.com it goes to index of myweb.com11:53
mik3huhuhuhhuh you said hand11:53
funkyHati'll have a look on the card11:53
sofiaand that does not go to localhost11:54
Seveassofia, what is vhcs?11:54
sofia VHCS is a Professional Control Panel Software for shared, reseller, virtual and dedicated server management.11:55
Seveasright11:55
vader1102okay have a great night... I will figure this MP3 problem out some other time11:55
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SeveasI don't think we can support that in here - it's not included in #ubuntu and I doubt that someone has any knowledge about it11:56
Seveastry the vhcs helpdesk11:56
sofiavhcs wiki is hacked11:56
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sofiasomeone deleted all11:57
sofiadocs11:57
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sofiawell, thanks for all Seveas11:59
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