/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/09/08/#ubuntu.txt

!lilo:*! A problem exists with the NickServ 'SET UNFILTERED ON' flag, in connection with cloaking. If you have a cloak, this UNFILTERED may be set on as well. We're working on a patch and should have something fairly soon. Thanks.12:01
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== erUSUL [n=erusul@im-175.arrakis.es] has joined #ubuntu
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-1120uti.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Unit134679hello everyone12:04
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-1120uti.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Shit]
=== Cody` [n=cody@ddsl-216-68-134-98.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesIt's so quiet here right now.12:06
Gnonthgol#ubuntu-offtopic12:07
funkyHatcos everyone's computer is working :P12:07
LinuxJonesheh12:07
Gnonthgollol12:07
Cody`Can anyone help me with the apache package? I have it all setup except for mod rewrite. I've disabled all virtual hosting and set the documentroot to /var/www instead. When using mod_rewrite in userdirs(via mod_userdir) mod_rewrite doesn't work. Here is what error.log says [Fri Sep 02 17:53:54 2005]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  File does not exist: /var/www/home, referer: http://localhost/~cody/osdever/forum.php?page_id= as you can see, it looks i12:08
Cody`n /var/www/home instead :/12:08
Cody`any ideas?12:09
SeveasCody`, put your .htaccess  or relevant section of config files on the pastebin12:09
lsuactiafnerSeveas : damn ubuntu needs to pay you for all your help12:10
lsuactiafneri gave up and started to want to tell ppl rm -rf /12:10
Seveasthey do by providing an excellent work/play environment :)12:10
lsuactiafnerand DO NOT do that command ppl12:10
maewhat is the correct font to use for ascii art?12:10
Seveasmae, freecourier oslt12:10
Seveasany fixed-width font will do12:10
=== Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
Seveaslsuactiafner, that's called a support butn-out12:11
Cody`Seveas, one sec then12:11
lsuactiafnerSeveas : i'm going to find a quesion you dont have an answer for12:11
Seveasjust stay away from this place a few weeks and rebuild energy :)12:11
lsuactiafnerheh12:11
Seveaslsuactiafner, there are lots of those12:11
Seveasin fact, I don't know that much :)12:11
lsuactiafneryeh but i realsed i helped ppl instead of studying12:11
Naliothlsuactiafner: when you're passing out the money, dont forget the rest of us how like to work/play in here12:11
lsuactiafnerso i decided screw pcs.12:11
=== kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-050.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu
kayfelixfunkyHat: did you get it sorted?12:12
kayfelixfunkyHat: sorry, fell offline12:12
maeSeveas, well I tried using monospace but when I put it on instiki with <pre> It formats correct but you can tell some stuff still isn't lined up right.  Is there any other CSS settings you need to use for it to appear right in a web browser?12:12
lsuactiafnerbut the ppl in this channel that help so often should have a huge say in the development process12:12
funkyHatkayfelix, not yet :(12:12
Cody`Seveas, http://rafb.net/paste/results/3lEcvd59.html12:12
lsuactiafnerthey know best what ppl need12:12
Cody`I think there is a letter spacing thing in css12:13
Cody`look on w3schools.com12:13
lsuactiafneris there an xchat equivalent for exec -o yes that can be run in bitch?12:13
Cody`then set it to like 2px12:13
Seveasmae, <pre> should do it if the website author didn't do funky things12:13
=== Digis [n=digis@85.206.160.135] has joined #ubuntu
SeveasCody`, I see no mod_rewrite stuff in there12:14
Cody`not if he doesn't have a monospaced font set for the site12:14
Cody`Seveas: RewriteEngine On is set in rewrite.conf12:14
Cody`forgot to paste12:14
Cody`that's all that's enabled12:14
SeveasCody`, not having a monospaced font for <pre> is what I meant with funky things ;)12:14
Cody`and I enable it in my .htaccess as a precaution12:14
kayfelixfunkyHat: you there?12:14
funkyHatyep12:14
=== incubii [n=incubii@61.68.5.83] has joined #ubuntu
SeveasCody`, and what is your RewriteBase and your RewriteRules?12:15
Cody`I'll paste12:15
Cody`http://rafb.net/paste/results/OGSWox89.html12:15
funkyHatkayfelix, yes, i'm here12:15
Cody`for some reason it keeps looking in /var/www/home though :/12:16
Cody`Seveas, That exact .htaccess worked on my freebsd server before the harddrive went out, along with two other servers...12:16
SeveasCody`, you're missing a RewriteBase12:16
Cody`0.o never had to use before12:17
Cody`hmm12:17
Seveaswhat's the location on disk of these files?12:17
kayfelixfunkyHat: I researched it, maybe you can do it by selecting "SCSI" as a boot option - but tbh it looks fishy12:17
kayfelixfunkyHat: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22boot+from+pci+ide%22&btnG=Suche&meta=12:17
Seveasand what's the location on disk of your .htaccess?12:17
Cody`they are located in /home/cody/public_html/osdever12:17
Cody`and .htaccess is in that dir as well12:17
funkyHatkayfelix, thanks :) i'll give it a go12:17
kayfelixfunkyHat: apparantly most ide cards have problems booting from atapi devices... :(12:17
funkyHatgah12:18
Seveasand you want to make it available as http://yourserver/~cody/forums12:18
Seveas?12:18
linuxboywhat is in the multiverse repo?12:18
Cody`Seveas, it's already available12:18
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu []
Cody`mod rewrite doesn't play with mod_userdir correctly12:18
funkyHatdo you think i'll be able to have the PCI controller and the onboard controller working at the same time?12:18
Cody`when you use mod_rewrite in the userdirs it checks for the files in /var/www/home12:18
Cody`as indicated by the error log12:18
Cody`because it will give you a 40412:18
funkyHator, i could probably do it with a boot floppy....12:18
SeveasCody`, rigghht12:18
=== funkyHat smacks forhead
Seveasuse RewriteBase /~cody/12:19
funkyHatwhy didn't i think of _that_ before12:19
kayfelixfunkyHat: Im no expert at this - possibly yes but its not a bios-standard I dont think - so I doubt you'd be able to boot of the pci ide12:19
SeveasI'm using a similar setup with rewritebase and it works fine for me12:19
Cody`I'll try12:19
kayfelixfunkyHat: boot floppy or boot usb...12:19
Cody`that doesn't fix the problem12:20
Cody`:/12:20
Cody`meh got it12:21
Seveaswhat is it?12:21
Cody`but what's the reason it requires RewriteBase in ubuntu and it didn't on apache 2.0.54 compiled from source on freebsd, and apache 2.0.54 on suse12:22
Cody`nor does it need it on osdever.net 0.o12:22
=== redguy [n=mati@aiz44.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasno idea, I alwas use RewriteBase :)12:22
Cody`I made a typo in RewriteBase when I said it didn't work aboce12:22
Cody`above*12:22
Cody`well ty12:23
funkyHatare PS-2 keyboards hot-pluggable?12:23
mik3usually12:23
mik3i think12:24
funkyHatcool12:24
mik3i donno i guess12:24
Seveasusually not12:24
funkyHatjust wondered as PS-2 mice aren't12:24
anomalyno, not usually12:24
kayfelixfunkyHat: just dont burn yourself ;)12:24
mik3i never had a need to randomly pull keyboards out12:24
Seveasps2 is a non-hotpluggable interface12:24
funkyHati'm setting up a server box that i don't want to have a keyboard in most of the time12:24
mik3i think if you boot the box with a keyboard, unplug the keyboard, and plug it back in you will be ok12:24
=== eazel7 [n=eazel7@host232.201-252-119.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu
funkyHati'll be using ssh to control it12:24
mik3lets find out12:24
funkyHatbut if ssh breaks ;)12:24
linuxboywhat is in the multiverse repo?12:25
=== eazel7 [n=eazel7@host232.201-252-119.telecom.net.ar] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"]
=== yuacht [n=suker@82.193.191.5] has joined #ubuntu
kayfelixlinuxboy: not entirely sure, just lots of packages i _think_12:25
NaliothfunkyHat: set the bios to not stop on errors (like keyboard and video missing)12:25
funkyHatyeah i'm going to do that ;)12:26
linuxboykayfelix: i think you are talking universe12:26
kayfelixlinuxboy: im not sure what im talking about to be honest - just know it exists12:26
linuxboy:)12:26
kayfelixNalioth: you can do that? no more "press F3 to continue"?12:26
linuxboythanx for trying :)12:27
Naliothkayfelix: yes you can12:27
kayfelixNalioth: ace, i thought that was hard coded bios stuff12:27
Naliothkayfelix: you can tell it to boot up w/o stopping (this setting is for headless servers)12:28
funkyHatyeah i've got that set on my old server12:28
kayfelixfunky12:29
funkyHat(_old_ as in, won't accept a 100Mbit network card ;))12:29
funkyHatwhich is why i'm setting this one up12:29
qt2does ubuntu have some sort of remote desktop software that comes preinstalled?12:30
funkyHatqt2, it has a client preinstalled12:30
=== Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation]
Seveasand a vnc server12:30
kayfelixvnc12:30
=== kjalil [n=kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
funkyHatoh yeah, i forgot that was preinstalled12:30
qt2funkyHat, err, how do i access it?12:30
funkyHatapplications > internet > terminal server client12:31
=== jatos [n=jamie@82-34-93-26.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
qt2is that only for terminal, or x as well?12:31
jatoshi12:31
Seveasqt2, the client: applications -> internet -> terminal server client12:32
Seveasthe server: system -> preferences -> remote desktop12:32
kayfelixSeveas: where would that be in kubuntu?12:33
Seveaskayfelix, ENOCLUE12:33
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #ubuntu
=== wrtpeeps [n=andy@unaffiliated/wrtpeeps] has joined #ubuntu
wrtpeepswhere is my source list for apt stored?12:33
hussamin general, if I want to compile a program, how do I specify compiler optimization flags?12:34
kayfelixSeveas:  enoclue?12:34
=== Dr_Fate [n=Une-ga-d@249.249.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
funkyHat:S!:S12:34
SeveasENOCLUE means that I have no clue about it12:34
thrushwrtpeeps, /etc/apt/sources.list12:34
kayfelixSeveas:  thought it did ;)12:34
=== UrbanFox|sleep is now known as urbanfox|room
funkyHat'This device is disabled because the BIOS forthe device did not give it an IRQ (Interrupt Request). (Code 29.)12:34
funkyHat'12:35
wrtpeepsthanks12:35
thrushwrtpeeps, np12:35
funkyHat(that's the PCI IDE controller)12:35
kayfelixfunkyHat: sounds un-funky12:35
kayfelixfunkyHat: can you set IRQ by hand maybe?12:36
funkyHatyep12:36
=== majikstreet [n=majikstr@68.55.130.177] has joined #ubuntu
funkyHatare there any i shouldn't use?12:36
=== majikstreet [n=majikstr@68.55.130.177] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
kayfelixfunkyHat: no idea, sorry12:36
funkyHatok12:36
=== XTERM35 [n=xterm35@pcp0011532176pcs.monticello.in.ftwayne.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
funkyHatanyone else know? i know i shouldn't use 11, as that's network12:36
=== auk [n=scott@h-69-3-211-186.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu
kayfelixfunkyHat: get wise ... use google ...12:37
kayfelixfunkyHat: I think thats all the advice ur gonna get anyway :p12:38
funkyHati am trying, it's not coming up with anything useful for me :P12:38
=== Paradoxx [n=matthewm@port0066-adb-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #Ubuntu
=== alexubuntu [n=alex@J0f60.j.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== funkyHat will keep trying
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
Paradoxxhola12:39
alexubuntuhi12:39
kayfelixhola12:39
alexubuntu12:42
=== ogra [n=ogra@p5089D034.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== eazel7 [n=eazel7@host232.201-252-119.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu
=== alexubuntu [n=alex@J0f60.j.pppool.de] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
Paradoxxwhat RSS reader would you all recommend?12:44
jatosfeedreader @ p12:44
jatos*paradoxx12:44
Paradoxxjatos whats so good about it?12:45
NaliothParadoxx: i use liferea12:45
jdubGOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!12:45
=== xTina [n=xTina@p54A259DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== cafuego gives jdub a wary stare
NaliothParadoxx: theres a buttload of rss/atom readers avail at sourceforge12:45
jdubyou guys heard about the BadgerBadgerBadgerTour yet?12:45
jdubhttp://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/ubuntu/112568716012:45
ompauljdub, self promoting :)12:45
jdub^ DING-DING-DING!12:45
=== pedro_ [n=pedro@pc-200-74-115-99.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompauljdub, come to Dublin, I'll even buy you a pint12:46
meuserj|workjdub, as jimmydean already told you.. you should come to Indy.12:46
=== Parisi [n=jblparis@cpe-24-92-48-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
pedro_hey someone with breezy and x font server?12:46
jdubmeuserj|work: you guys got a petition goign? :)12:46
cafuegopedro_: does breezy with a debian sarge font server count?12:46
Seveashi jdub :)12:46
ParadoxxNalioth: yea i kno..but generally speaking there are a bag of s/w for anything at sourceforge, and i just want to see wat every1 is useing, so i have a better chance of getting somthing feature filler and that i'll like12:46
jdubompaul: unfortunately, dublin is a bit out of the way :)12:47
ParisiJust tried the new windows vista beta 112:47
jdubhey Seveas12:47
ParisiCrappy12:47
Seveasgreat that you come to NL and want to talk :)12:47
pedro_cafuego, ermm no12:47
=== Seq [n=chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM0011ae907ae4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompauljdub, :)12:47
jdubSeveas: gave you level 29 access, going to have to talk to the feenode admins about level 30 :)12:47
Seqdoes anybody know if there is a way to have xchat wait until after it has authenticated with nickserv to join channels?12:47
meuserj|workjdub, not yet.. jimmydean and I are going to cinlug on wednesday.. so we might see if they would like to start a petition.12:47
=== Digis [n=digis@85.206.161.8] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasjdub, thnx for that!12:47
ompauljdub, but from London it is 45 mins in a plane12:47
NaliothParadoxx: well give feedreader and liferea a run12:47
ParisiWhat Ircd does freenode use anyways?12:48
jdubmeuserj|work: rock!12:48
=== Devrethman [n=therobot@ip68-104-189-65.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
jdubParisi: their own12:48
Paradoxxfeedreader is W$ s/w though12:48
ParisiFrom scratch? or based on something else?12:48
jdubwas once based on hybrid, then called dancer12:48
Paradoxx>.<12:48
ParisiAh12:48
SeveasParisi, now called hyperion12:48
ParisiI was never really a big fan of Hybrid..12:49
ParisiWell, didnt really get a chance to use it rather.12:49
=== kspath [n=tweekken@adsl-65-43-120-93.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
Devrethmananybody know a good, relatively cheap hardware SATA RAID controller?12:49
cafuegoDevrethman: cheap ones aren't good.12:49
Seveashear hear :)12:49
Devrethmanrelatively12:49
jdubDevrethman: avoid hardware raid, do it right in software :)12:49
Devrethmanwell, software doesn't work12:49
ParisiI might go back to the days of running my own Irc network just for fun.12:49
cafuegoDevrethman: If you could choose between good OR cheap, which would it be?12:49
Devrethmangood12:50
cafuegoDevrethman: Then it's going to cost you .. ;-)12:50
ParadoxxParisi: neat, what s/w did you use to do so?12:50
cafuegoDevrethman: Seiously though, I think the 3ware sata raid cards aren RELATIVELY cheap and RELATIVELY good.12:50
Devrethmanso there's no like... semi affordable way to do raid that works?12:50
ompaulDevrethman, some 'hardware raid' systems are little more than software badly implemented, do what jdub said save the bother12:50
NaliothParadoxx: i dont know a bunch of em, i've used yarssr, rawdog and now liferea12:50
cafuegoDevrethman: I find software raid1 to work fine on most low-end boxen12:51
ParisiParadoxx i believe it was Shadow ircd or something the one we used mainly, i forget the services..12:51
SeveasNalioth, tried blam! already?12:51
Devrethmanthe partitioner always crashes on me12:51
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.85.245] has joined #ubuntu
Devrethmanwhen i try to configure it12:51
ParisiParadoxx it's been a while :012:51
cafuegoDevrethman: You should be able get somehting for under US$100012:51
ParisiParadoxx do you have any experience with it?12:51
ParadoxxNalioth: ty, i'll check thouse out12:51
Devrethmancafuego: under $150 would be better....12:52
cafuegoDevrethman: No way you get hw raid for that.12:52
ParadoxxParisi: nope... just that i might b intrested in runnin a irc server with a few friends of mine in the future12:52
Paradoxxso was just asking you experience12:52
SeveasDevrethman, then go software raid12:52
=== din [n=din@24.144.40.40] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nquick question: when you do the "make" "make install" commands for ndiswrapper, is it compiled to run on your architecture(amd64,ppc)?12:52
Devrethmanseveas: i would love to, but it doesn't work12:52
cafuegoh17m4n: Yes, so you will ALSO need WiNDOWS drivers for that arch.12:53
Gnonthgol!ndiswrapper12:53
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper12:53
cafuegoh17m4n: So ppc would be useless, as is amd64 in most cases.12:53
Paradoxxlol noo more java...12:53
h17m4nI'm ndis right now12:53
Paradoxxlol12:53
Devrethmanthe liveCD install hangs on "scanning disks" immediately after i configure software raid12:53
ParisiParadoxx I have run a small network on my own for a little while, we had a couple of home and private linux/bsd servers runnings and linked all together, we had anywhere from 100 to 200 people on it..12:53
Paradoxxright now, i'm useing eclipse and azureus, and they are killing resources..12:53
Paradoxxlol12:53
=== juanej [n=juanej@cable200-116-218-88.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu
ParadoxxParisi: nice...12:53
cafuegoDevrethman: Let me tweak that minimum price down to around $500 US12:54
ParisiIt was fun and interesting to see how it all worked together.12:54
h17m4nand I used 32-bit drivers.... hmmm guess I'll have to redo all the steps and install the 64 bit ones12:54
ParisiFreenode runs the same exact way.12:54
cafuegoh17m4n: if there are 64bit ones12:54
h17m4nI have them12:54
ParisiI'v always wanted to know how IRC networks worked in general so that was my way in12:54
h17m4nsitting in my homefolder12:54
Paradoxxyea, same here...12:55
Paradoxxthough i haven't gotten around to it yet12:55
Devrethmancafuego: ok, forget that, do does anybody know how to make it work??12:55
ParisiRunning and configuring on was tricky but fun for the most part.12:55
h17m4nis there an easier way to upgrade drivers instead of having to uninstall ndiswrapper and doing it all over again?12:55
Paradoxxmight b a little difficult atm, as i have college apps to do in the next follow months12:55
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu []
Paradoxxi'm thinkin about doing a bootable CD profile of myself to send to colleges12:56
Paradoxxmight use DSL (Damn small linux)12:56
=== pepsi [n=pepsi@pdpc/supporter/student/pepsi] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulParadoxx, but they will not look at it as it might have a virus :)12:57
pepsiis the system monitor applet misworded? "16% in use of which 11% is cache".. does that mean 11% of whats in use is cache or 11% of the whole memory is being used as cache?12:57
cafuegoas an application? they'll not be able to use them, as the tech department disabled cd booting.12:57
Paradoxxthat should b fun, but i defenetly wanna do the IRC thing...12:57
=== auk is now known as gnu_
h17m4nhmmm bootable profile12:57
h17m4nI dunno about that12:57
ParisiYa, i would like ot get back into myself if theres time.12:57
Paradoxxompaul: lol, i should pput a sticker that says No Windows included12:57
Paradoxxlol12:57
h17m4nI dont think they will want to restart the PC just to look at a profile12:57
Paradoxxh17m4n: y you say that m8?12:58
h17m4ncos picture it12:58
h17m4nthe person looking at your profile12:58
Paradoxxwell, thats tru12:58
=== gnu_ is now known as osprey
h17m4nhas his/her pc on12:58
=== ompaul gave away a shipit CD and this guy got into a 'but is it not a copyright violation' I didn't answer that directly, I just said if that was the case why has someone not got an injunction out to stop it?
h17m4nthey probably will skip looking at it12:58
h17m4nwhere are you going to college though?12:59
h17m4nwhat country?12:59
cafuegoThey came in to work, started their PC< waited 10 minutes for Outlook to load, then they do NOT want to reboot. They probably 1) cannot even enter their bios to boot off cd and 2) wouldn't know how to.12:59
Paradoxxwell, i wanted to go to college in the UK, but thats not looking probably atm...12:59
Paradoxx>.<12:59
=== osprey is now known as ravenousraven
Paradoxxso probably the US, i'm from Jamaica by the way12:59
Carpe_LibertatemAhh12:59
h17m4ncool12:59
cafuegoYou're assuming a level of technological literacy that's just unrelaistic.12:59
h17m4nkingston?12:59
Paradoxxyep01:00
Paradoxxyea, i guess..01:00
ParisiJamaica, ah01:00
h17m4none of hs friends was from kingston01:00
Paradoxxi'll probably just do a power point document or somthing01:00
=== cafuego works with IT teachers. Some of those can't even type their own email address.
ompaulParadoxx, do a PDF01:00
=== farruinn [n=jessica@cpe-69-201-11-215.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegoParadoxx: You COULD do a pdf (they'll be fine) or web site structure on CD (You could include Firefox)01:01
Paradoxxwas gonna build a java app for it, but haven't done java in a while so...01:01
Paradoxxompaul, i might want to put videos in it or somthin01:01
lakcajParadoxx, google S501:01
h17m4nwhy not build a website and give them the url?01:01
cafuegoh17m4n: They'll make typos.01:01
ompaulParadoxx, a little over the top, unless you want to teach multi media stuff is it not?01:01
ParisiWhat type of hardware you all run around here with Ubuntu, just kinda curious? I have a P4 1.7 with 256 ram myself.01:01
=== wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
ParisiAnd i find it "acceptable"01:02
ParadoxxParisi:  i probably have the best machine here01:02
=== DeFi [n=DeFi@ip68-6-40-245.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
pepsi1MHz 8080 with 32k ram01:02
ParisiIts nor fast or slow either01:02
cafuegoParisi: A Mac Mini 1.4GHz with 512MB and an AMD64 1.8GHz with 1GB01:02
h17m4nGateway 7405GX(laptop) Mobile A64 3200+, 512MB, 80GB01:02
Paradoxxp3 500 mhz 256 mb01:02
farruinnis there a mythtv howto for ubuntu?  I ran apt-get install mythtv and it downloaded the necessary packages and told me that I would have to log into an X session as the mythtv user01:02
ParisiI am currently shopping for a powerbook 1.33 soon..01:02
funkyHatlmao @ Paradoxx01:02
farruinnit didn't however tell me what I should use for a password, so I don't know how to do this01:02
ParisiThe p3 aint that bad really.01:02
ompaulamd1900 with 256  - amd 2400 with 512 (64 shared for video) and some monster my father in law owns01:03
lakcajfarruinn, sudo passwd mythtv01:03
cafuegoParisi: Keep in mind the airport extreme won't work under Linux.01:03
yonkeltronGOOD SHABBOS!!!01:03
Paradoxxnope01:03
Paradoxxits keeping up01:03
h17m4ncafuego: which feels faster, the ppc or amd64?01:03
Paradoxxbut its the java apps i use day to day, that are killin it01:03
ParisiParadoxx I have used an old Dell p233 for the longest time this ealier this year ;001:03
Paradoxxi really need to up my memory01:03
cafuegoh17m4n: the amd6401:03
Parisicafuego i wouldnt dare run Linux on it either way :901:03
h17m4nohh01:03
ParisiI am shopping for the pb4 for OSX01:04
h17m4nI thought the ppc had a faster performance per clock01:04
cafuegoParisi: Ah nice - I have a 12" iBook with OSX, very neet. Just make sure you max the ram.01:04
Paradoxxh17m4n: i would think so01:04
ParisiI wouldnt consider apples without OSX really01:04
cafuegoh17m4n: then ia32, sure.01:04
farruinnParisi: macs you mean, they don't make the apple anymore01:04
Parisicafuego agreed, i had a pb4 12'' 1.33 with 768 ram previously, it was fast but not too fast.01:05
Paradoxxnext year i'm lookin to hopefully buy a notebook01:05
=== bloodnik [n=alastair@spc1-bagu3-6-0-cust248.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
bloodnikHai where can I get fonts?01:05
Paradoxxgoing all out, i wanna but a PM, hopefully the 64bit versions of them will b out01:05
ParisiApple as the company, thats what i meant sorry.01:05
cafuegobloodnik: www.chankfont.com01:05
bloodnikty01:05
Paradoxxi dunno, for some reason i prefer them to the AMD mobile offerings01:05
farruinnParisi: sorry, just a pet peeve of mine :)01:05
bloodnikdo true type fonts work?01:05
Paradoxxturion isn't ready yet IMO01:05
cafuegobloodnik: also try google for more font sites. Download the files, put the .ttf files in ~/.fonts01:05
Paradoxxbut it is good01:05
bloodnikah01:06
farruinnbloodnik: you can do 'apt-cache search ttf' for font packages01:06
bloodnikI didn't realise Linux used ttf01:06
bloodnikThat's sexy.01:06
Naliothbloodnik: any truetype fonts will do01:06
bloodnikMint.01:06
bloodnikthanks01:06
bloodniksee you all when I next fug up01:06
cafuegoParadoxx: I'm not sure they'll ever geta round to G5 powerbooks, of if they'll go directly to P4-M powerbooks...01:06
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bHI. ANyone here?01:06
UbuntuN00bI need some help.01:06
mik3...01:07
h17m4nhmmm why won't my pc open Synaptic... I click on it and it doesnt open01:07
cafuegoand apple open type fonts work fine too01:07
=== ky0nce [n=agerber@myw-stp-196-37-192-218.sentechsa.net] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bIs there anyway to insall a .rpm file on Ubuntu?01:07
mik3hah01:07
mik3good question01:07
cafuegoUbuntuN00b: using 'alien'. 'alien foo.rpm', that created foo.deb.01:07
GnonthgolUbuntuN00b: use alien01:07
cafuegoUbuntuN00b: then 'dpkg -i foo.deb' - this MAY not work, depending on the rpm.01:07
ParadoxxUbuntunoob what they said01:07
cafuegoUbuntuN00b: Ideally, try to find a .deb of the software.01:08
Gnonthgol!alien01:08
ubotuI heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/01:08
=== Zhukov_ [n=jpoa@bl5-47-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bANy of you guys on AIM? I might need a walkthrough.01:08
UbuntuN00bI suck. lol.01:08
Zhukov_Hi there01:08
cafuegoif you get stuck, just ask here.01:09
cafuegoThere are always 20 people and 500 bots ready to help.01:09
Carpe_LibertatemUbuntuN00b: What is in RPM that you can't get from the repos?01:09
Zhukov_Seveas, how are you? Sorry about the other day, i was no identified, so i was unable to send you msgs :S Can you let me acess the java packages now please?01:09
UbuntuN00bLimewire.01:09
=== reiki [n=chatzill@24-52-225-13.kntnny.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
mik3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:09
mik3W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems01:09
h17m4nisnt that default?01:10
ompaulI note that we are down by a hundred or two since the famous bot wars of last weekedn01:10
Gnonthgol!limewire01:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire01:10
mik3i run apt-get update and i get this......01:10
cafuegoZhukov_: The ones in the repository were fixed, check wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:10
Carpe_LibertatemUbuntuN00b: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire01:10
Carpe_Libertatemerr01:10
h17m4nhow do I make the "Back button" work on my mouse?01:10
Carpe_LibertatemI'm slow. :-P01:10
h17m4nI could only r/l click and scroll01:10
Parisibbl01:11
mik3i think my apt-get is broked =/01:11
ompaulh17m4n, right click does not offer you back?01:11
reikiin alsamixer (in terminal) after tabbing to mic control, how do I raise the level?01:11
Zhukov_cafuego, Seveas has a newer version01:11
=== din [n=din@24.144.40.40] has joined #ubuntu
=== protokol420 [n=dfsaygdr@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
protokol420hellp all01:12
=== incubii [n=incubii@61.68.5.83] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
h17m4nyeah.... but I have an extra button(thumb) which is not being used01:12
=== ravenousraven is now known as auk
=== death121 [n=dk121@c-24-23-30-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
cafuego!find mach_mpspec.h01:12
Paradoxxh17m4n:  you have a M$ intelli mouse?01:13
h17m4nlogitech cordless01:13
Paradoxxas i'm experienceing the same problem with the mouse i have01:13
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== ompaul goes to bed
Paradoxx!microsoft01:13
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Paradoxx01:13
Paradoxx!windows01:14
ubotumethinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative01:14
kvidellWiNE is Not an Emulator.01:14
=== xTina [n=xTina@p54A2771F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Carpe_Libertatem!alternative01:14
ubotuit has been said that alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant01:14
Paradoxxkvidell: y you say that?01:14
kvidellbecause it isn't?01:14
=== infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Paradoxxwhat is it?01:14
kvidellIt provides linux with the APIs necessary to run windows software.01:14
=== infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"]
kvidellWine stands for "Wine is not an emulator"01:15
kvidellcheck the site :-P01:15
h17m4nwill it let me run games like sof2?01:15
Zhukov_h17m4n, you better use cedega for that01:15
Paradoxxlakcaj hey m8, have you used S5 b4?01:15
=== benkong2 [n=benjamin@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Zhukov_Seveas, are you there?01:16
h17m4nkool01:16
kvidellmaybe.. I've heard success stories and horror stories pertaining to Wine and gaming. As Zhukov_ said, may want to stick with Cedega.01:16
h17m4nI will try that later01:16
SeveasZhukov_, ?01:16
Paradoxxlakcaj: ??01:16
mik3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:16
mik3why do i get so many of those on an apt-get update?01:16
Paradoxx!S501:16
ubotuParadoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:16
Zhukov_although i must say...suddenly my steam stopped working under cedega :S01:17
Seveasmik3, paste the *complet* output of apt-get update on the pastebin01:17
=== Demon_stroke [i=spiritwo@71-9-133-61.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
meuserj|workmik3, you should only get that the first time... do it a second time and it shouldn't give you the errors.01:17
mik3it does it repeatedly01:17
Paradoxxhas any1 here used S5 b4?01:17
meuserj|workmik3, then you have problems01:17
mik3how helpful01:17
=== Ganoosh [n=myNegRea@ool-44c456ba.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
kvidelllol01:17
Carpe_Libertatem!xen01:17
ubotuCarpe_Libertatem: Bugger all, i dunno01:17
meuserj|workmik3, as Seveas said.. paste the whole output in pastebin01:17
Ganooshhey all01:18
=== anomaly [n=aa@adsl-0-171-207.mob.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu []
benkong2when booting I get an error cannot map device eth0 successfully and eth0 does not get a dhcp ip address. What can I do? breezy CD301:18
Demon_strokehey guyz i got a que01:18
Ganooshif i install in expert mode, will it ask me what partition to install on?01:18
Demon_strokeCan i partition my drive straight from ubuntue os?01:19
Paradoxx!lifrea01:19
ubotuParadoxx: Not a clue01:19
kayfelixDemon_stroke: yup01:19
=== P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.166] has joined #ubuntu
benkong2!device mapper01:19
ubotubenkong2: Are you on ritalin?01:19
kayfelixubuntu installation anyway01:19
GnonthgolGanoosh: yes, just like in normal mode01:19
Ganooshoh ok good cuz i heard it automatically repartition the whole drive01:20
Demon_strokeok kewl01:20
meuserj|workGanoosh, only if you tell it to01:20
kayfelixGanoosh: you dont HAVE to partition at all01:20
kayfelixyou can do that with your favorite tool01:20
mik3http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184001:21
Ganooshcan I select an unused partition on my drive in the install and it will put all necessary partitions on that one01:21
kayfelixin the setup you can choose to do what needs to be done01:21
=== kjalil [n=kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has left #ubuntu []
Ganooshlike main, boot, swap01:21
mik3http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1840 <-------any suggestions01:21
kayfelixyeah just chose the unpartition space, mount as root, "/", it will make an Ext3 out of it and then choose some other space and make the Swap01:21
Ganooshk cool sounds good01:22
kayfelixmik3: check your sources.list01:22
Gnonthgolkayfelix: you dont need the root partision to be Ext301:22
kayfelixGnonthgol: just saying thats what it made for me...01:22
mik3kayfelix : i did, i have a few commented out ones that i added, but they are commented01:22
Seveasmik3, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*01:23
Seveas(will give an error about partial - that's ok)01:23
Seveasthen: sudo apt-get update01:23
mik3mindstorm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory01:23
mik3oh ok01:23
mik3thanks01:23
tearconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  See `config.log' for more details.01:23
tearhmm not what I had hoped for01:23
Seveastear, sudo aptitude install build-essential01:23
meuserj|worktear, apt-get install build-essential01:23
Seveaswhat are you compiling?01:24
Demon_strokehey how do i install totme01:24
Demon_stroketotem*01:24
Seveasit's installed by default...01:25
mik3Seveas you're my hero, marry me.01:25
benkong2ping Seveas01:25
Seveasmik3, sorry, I'm engaged already :)01:25
Seveaspong benkong201:25
Demon_strokewelll just generally, i dont know how to install anything01:25
benkong2when booting I get an error cannot map device eth0 successfully and eth0 does not get a dhcp ip address. What can I do? breezy CD301:25
tearthx01:25
kayfelixapt-get install aptname01:25
mik3Demon_stroke : apt get install totem01:25
mik3Demon_stroke : apt-get install totem01:25
SeveasDemon_stroke, system -> administration -> package manager01:25
cafuego!tell tear -about compiling01:25
Seveassearch for something and hit the install button :)01:25
Carpe_Libertatem!mount01:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives01:26
Carpe_Libertatem!windowsdrives01:26
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically01:26
Demon_strokeic01:26
Seveasbenkong2, rip the mapping stuff out of /etc/network/interfaces01:26
mik3hey my 30 ubuntu cd's finally came01:26
benkong2Seveas; thanks01:26
=== protokol420 [n=dfsaygdr@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Demon_strokealso01:26
mik3good thing i took the initiative and downloaded it via dialup01:27
benkong2can I change the interrupt of a nic it is being picked up as a usb port?01:27
Demon_strokei cant playback any movies, im missin some codecs for wmv so and such01:27
Demon_strokewere can i dl them01:27
cafuego!codecs01:27
ubotu[codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:27
Seveas!tell Demon_stroke about hoary-extras01:27
NaliothDemon_stroke: the more modern microshaft video codecs wont play no matter what01:28
Gnonthgolmik3: lets see how long you will run out of cds01:28
=== FoulPlay [n=FoulPlay@220-203.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== fredforfaen [n=Morrari@216-132-216.0502.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu
fredforfaenyo01:28
FoulPlayHello everyone01:28
=== robert1123 [n=robert@cpe-24.216.141.129.charter-stl.com] has left #ubuntu []
Gnonthgoljoa01:28
=== Xatu [i=dragon@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokeSeveas tell me again i accidently closed it,01:29
fredforfaenwhats up01:29
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | FAQs & User Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Do NOT paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | To prevent spam: /umode +CE | For auto-joining to work: use your nickserv password as server password
Seveas!tell Demon_stroke about hoary-extras01:29
=== meuserj|work [n=meuserj|@64.72.138.21] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegofredforfaen: sky or ceiling01:30
Seveasstars or sun (depending on where you are)01:30
cafuegoSeveas: couds?01:30
cafuego+l01:30
Naliothcafuego: sky? don't you mean "the big blue room"?01:31
Seveaspossibly01:31
fredforfaenhehe01:31
cafuegoNalioth: get back into your straightjacket!01:31
GnonthgolSeveas: I think it will be stars for him01:31
fredforfaenguess a J , is up......gonna roll me a phat one , brb01:31
Demon_strokehey do i dl the packages.gz01:31
cafuegoDemon_stroke: No, you run 'apt-get update'01:31
Seveasapt-get does that for you01:31
Naliothcafuego: it doesnt fit anymore (losing weight, and slipped right out the bottom)01:31
FoulPlayCan X-Chat run commands on startup like mIRC can?01:32
=== wrtpeeps [n=andy@unaffiliated/wrtpeeps] has left #ubuntu []
cafuegoNalioth: into the bag of kittens and into the river with you then ;-)01:32
FoulPlaylike to register, join channel ,etc01:32
=== reiki [n=chatzill@24-52-225-13.kntnny.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokemy comp in there isnt running the internet01:32
NaliothFoulPlay: yes it can01:32
=== soson_ [n=soson@241.Red-80-32-172.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
SeveasFoulPlay, look at the topic for registration01:32
soson_Hiho01:32
Naliothcafuego: thought that was a "bag of rats"01:32
Seveasand simply set auto-join channels in the server connection dialog01:32
=== Gnonthgol [n=knut@ti400720a081-11628.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu []
=== hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegoDemon_stroke: Then 'apt-zip' and 'apt-move' might be what you need. Manually fetching Packages.gz isn't going to do you much good.01:32
hussamI can't seem to access ubuntuforums.org. Can somebody be nice enough to check for me it is offline or not?01:33
Seveasit's off01:33
FoulPlaySeveas, I've already registered with the server.01:33
kvidellit's off?01:33
=== soson_ is now known as soson
SeveasFoulPlay, i meant for identification :)01:34
cafuegoit probably runs phpbb2 and probably has bugs01:34
Seveas*g*01:34
Seveasphpbb is the crappiest forum ever01:34
Naliothgot a sep2 breezy daily i'm fixin to inflict on my G5 imac01:35
=== othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2DAC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== soson [n=soson@241.Red-80-32-172.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_stroketoo many holes in phpbb201:35
cafuegoNalioth: I'll go and sacrifice a goat01:35
=== Swoop|Around [n=Ask@0x55516c79.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
FoulPlaySeveas, please excuse my ignorance. But what exactly am I looking for in the Topic?01:36
aukcafuego: don;t do that. that's nto fair to the poor goat.01:36
Naliothcafuego: so far so good, it didnt kernel panic when i put it in osx01:36
cafuegoauk: hey, free dinner01:36
shinuif im trying to get kernel source, should i download them from kernel.org?01:36
mik3Seveas : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184101:36
Naliothshinu: use the ubuntu kernel source(s)01:36
shinuNalioth: from apt-get?01:37
Ganooshwhat would you recommend, KDE, GNOME or something else?01:37
cafuegohmm, fresh espresso01:37
Naliothshinu: use synaptic, it's easier01:37
mik3hmm, fresh moonshine.01:37
tearhow come i can't "make"01:37
NaliothGanoosh: there are over a dozen desktop manglers, choose the one YOU like01:37
shinuNalioth: i never use synaptic...01:37
cafuegoGanoosh: it's probably best to run the one you like, not what others say you should like.01:38
mik3synaptec is for the devil!01:38
NaliothGanoosh: also you can use kde apps:gnome apps:x-apps in other DMs01:38
cafuegoGanoosh: That said, I like Gnome :-)01:38
Naliothshinu: then yes, apt will show them to you01:38
Naliothcafuego: my fan isnt running 90mph01:38
Ganooshhow is GNOME, it looks really good, very customizable?01:38
mik3as in eye candy?01:38
=== capncrunk [n=capncrun@dsl231-042-024.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== kelsey23 [n=kelsey23@adsl-68-78-16-146.dsl.sgnwmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
Ganooshyeah01:39
NaliothGanoosh: ALL of linux is customizable01:39
mik3gnome, just like kde, has a lot of different themes01:39
=== paulproteus [n=paulprot@pool-151-196-50-75.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
shinuNalioth: got it, thanks! somehow i didnt notice the source but only the image files before :P01:39
mik3it's all about preference, just install ubuntu base, play with gnome for a bit, then try kde01:39
Naliothshinu: always better to use ubuntu stuff b4 you go elsewhere01:39
tear2 problems,  (1) I can't open madlib gz file (2) I can't "make"01:40
=== Parallax_ [n=pbl@85.155.0.223] has joined #ubuntu
mik3why can't you make?01:41
Naliothtear: download it again01:41
Ganooshi'll be back in a bit probably see ya01:41
=== Ganoosh [n=myNegRea@ool-44c456ba.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu []
Naliothawful lot of red screens on this breezy thing.. ..01:41
shinuNalioth: one more thing. my uname -r gives 2.6.10-5-386. the source for 2.6.10 is the right on isnt it? there is no source for 2.6.10-5 right?01:41
capncrunkmy users-admin utility just tells me "The entered password is invalid," never asked for one. even a "sudo users-admin" does the same thing. 5.0401:41
=== Parallax_ [n=pbl@85.155.0.223] has left #ubuntu []
tearNalioth, tried 7 times01:42
Naliothshinu: not sure01:42
cafuegoNalioth: Yeah, than fan spin-up thing was REALLY weird.01:42
Naliothtear: then it seems to be a bad archive for everyone, or try another mirror01:42
cafuegoNalioth: It does the same when you flash any bits of firmware it may have (like bluetooth or airport)01:42
=== wegstar [n=foo@allegro/user/wegstar] has joined #ubuntu
teartried form 7 difrent01:43
cafuegoshinu: 2.6.10-34 is the source for 2.6.10-5-XXX01:43
Naliothcafuego: what does the same?01:43
shinuNalioth: well.. thats the only thing i can see in apt-get... ill just get that :P01:43
tear[/bin/sh: tar: command not found]  <-- but only with madlib01:43
cafuegoNalioth: When I tried Ubuntu on the g5 imac, it hung with the fan reaching take-off speed. I recent did a firmare update on that imac, which made the fan go to take-off speed as well.01:43
shinucafuego: 2.6.10-34? why the -34?01:44
mik3any suggestions to my little problem: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184101:44
cafuegoshinu: revision 3401:44
=== kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-050.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu []
Naliothcafuego: the fan runs continuously for any linux (nobody has figgered out the software-fan combo yet)01:44
=== keikoz gnight all vais dormir quelques 24 heures
cafuego!info linux-source-2.6.1001:44
Naliothcafuego: PM01:44
ubotulinux-source-2.6.10: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-34 (hoary), Packaged size: 36633 kB, Installed size: 36756 kB01:44
shinucafuego: alright thanks01:45
=== mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokeok can some1 just gimme the direct download link to the codecs needed to play video/audio (note im on my xp right now so i will burn them)01:46
=== benkong2 [n=benjamin@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothDemon_stroke: www.mplayerhq.hu  see "downloads"01:47
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bHow do I install Java?01:48
UbuntuN00bI'm at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire01:48
UbuntuN00btrying to follow the instructions on that page.01:48
UbuntuN00bfor java01:48
mik3Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)01:48
Seveas!java01:48
ubotuI heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:48
Seveasmik3, again?01:48
mik3save me Seveas01:48
mik3yeah01:48
Demon_strokeoooo they got skins too01:48
Seveasodd01:49
UbuntuN00b!java01:49
mik3http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184101:49
Seveasrm /var/lib/apt/lists/*01:49
capncrunktried re-installing gnome-system-tools, but still no go01:49
Demon_strokehey anyonegot a kewl techy lookin skin?01:49
UbuntuN00bWhat do I do?01:49
Seveasand apt-get update01:49
eFFayis there any "easy" way to burn bin/cue-files in ubuntu?01:49
sosonsudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.501:49
Seveasit's odd that it happens though01:49
UbuntuN00bI typed that.01:49
mik3Seveas : again?01:49
UbuntuN00bNOthing happens.01:49
UbuntuN00bsays invaled package01:49
Seveasmik3, yeah, that's the only thing to solve this01:49
mik3oh ok01:49
SeveasUbuntuN00b, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:49
eFFayany recommendations on what program i should use?01:49
Seveasmik3, did you interrupt apt-get update before this happened?01:50
capncrunkmy users-admin utility just tells me "The entered password is invalid," never asked for one. even a "sudo users-admin" does the same thing. 5.04.. cant find a config file01:50
mik3i told my box you were going to come over and kick it in the face, it just laughed. =(01:50
benkong2cat/proc/interrupts shows 21: 25531 IO-APCI-Level ohci_hcd:usb2, eth0 I think my eth0 is assigned to the wrong interrupt. I disabled the mapping stuff in /etc/network/interfaces any other thoughts?01:50
Seveashehe01:50
mik3no01:50
UbuntuN00bSeveas it wont let me01:50
SeveasUbuntuN00b, msg me a username and password and it will :)01:50
Demon_strokeis it possible to download additional ubuntu themes01:50
Seveas!themes01:51
ubotumethinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com01:51
meuserj|workeFFay, I don't know if it is the easiest way but I do: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx cuefile=whatever.cue01:51
tearhow come it won't allow me to use "make" command?01:51
Demon_stroke:D01:51
mik3i was trying to add a repository site with the instructions on the scribus web page for updating to scribus 1.3, and that's when it started giving me problems. so i just commented out the sites i added01:51
mik3maybe i should delete them completely?01:51
=== Pickle_Weasel [i=w00f@AC8EB999.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasmik3, no...01:52
Seveascommented out has the same effect01:52
Pickle_Weaseli installed the DVD codec, now what can i use as a palyer? Totem won't work =\01:52
capncrunkanyone got any ideas?01:52
meuserj|workPickle_Weasel, apt-get install totem-xine01:52
meuserj|workthen totem will work01:52
benkong2Seveas; cat/proc/interrupts shows 21: 25531 IO-APCI-Level ohci_hcd:usb2, eth0 I think my eth0 is assigned to the wrong interrupt. I disabled the mapping stuff in /etc/network/interfaces any other thoughts?01:52
mik3k01:52
Seveasbenkong2, not really, sorry01:52
Pickle_Weaselty ^.^01:52
benkong2ok01:53
benkong2thanks01:53
meuserj|workPickle_Weasel, np01:53
=== JKnife [n=JKnife@24-181-246-251.dhcp.snfr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifewhen i try building E17 it says it cant find X11... i didnt have this problem on Slackware, or Archlinux01:54
SeveasJKnife, install xlibs-dev01:54
Seveasor better: apt-get build-dep enlightenment01:55
Seveasthat installs all build dependencies01:55
JKnifek01:55
Seveasthere also are packages for e17 on ubuntu.nooms.de01:55
=== infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifei dont like using other peoples E17 pkgs... they tend to not like my setup01:56
Seveas:)01:56
=== mik3 shakes his fist in a threatening mannor to his box.
Naliothhooray01:57
Demon_strokewhy cant i download from gnome art...........01:57
Nalioth!!!01:57
ubotu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:57
sosonSomeone here program games on Linux?01:57
soson:P01:57
Seveasubotu, you broken01:57
ubotuEep! *crash*01:57
=== ep [n=ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifesoson, no i only build games for windows :-P01:57
mik3doing repository updates on aol dialup sucks01:58
Demon_strokewuts a splash screen?01:58
mik3=D01:58
=== PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
tearcould someone link me to a madlibor other codex pack?01:58
Naliothmik3: doing anything on ANY dialup sucks01:59
Zhukov_Demon_stroke, instead of all the letters while booting up an image is displayed01:59
=== chavo [n=chavo@78.sub-70-197-188.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokeo kewl01:59
mik3yeah01:59
Demon_strokeman i cant find the linux pengiun stuff anywere01:59
=== [DF2] [n=Digi@60-240-7-7-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokehmm02:00
Demon_strokeim confused again02:01
mik3same error again damnit02:01
mik3THAT'S IT, I'M GETTING THE HAMEMR02:01
mik3hamemr02:01
mik3hammer02:01
mik3jesus02:01
mik3and a dictionary02:01
Demon_strokewen i go to download splash screen it just shows again, do i have to DL it from linux?02:01
Seveasmik3, cool down :)02:01
[DF2] has anyone experience installing blowfish or could point me in the right direction.. maybe a webpage.. nfo ??02:02
mik3yeah i don't really need to install alian but i'm bored02:02
=== s00d [n=s00d@host81-153-41-83.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Zhukov_hey guys, anyone wants to help me troubleshot my last problem with the laptop?02:03
SeveasZhukov_, what's it?02:03
=== PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Zhukov_The sd card reader! :D It is displayed at lspci --> 0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)02:04
Zhukov_ but when i plug a card, nothing happens02:04
mik3what do you need blowfish for, an eggy?02:04
=== imfuedsfalic [n=imfuedsf@66-211-236-242.velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifebrb02:04
=== meuserj|work [n=meuserj|@64.72.138.21] has joined #ubuntu
SeveasZhukov_, sdcard readers that are built in notoriously have no drivers02:05
imfuedsfalicwhen starting a program that requires a password the program never starts even with the correct password02:05
Seveastry googling for your laptop model02:05
meuserj|workholy crap.. the new breezy usplash screen is awesome!02:05
Seveasif it's an hp compaq nc 6000 it's guaranteed not to work02:05
Zhukov_Seveas, kinda hard...custom build :D02:05
s00dHi. I'm a linux/networking newbie. I was wondering if the Red Hat Network Manager was going to be ported into Ubuntu anytime soon? Or if it was easy to compile on ubuntu?02:05
Seveass00d, it's planned to be the default in the version for april 200602:06
mik3uh02:06
mik3holy crap.02:06
s00dAha. Darn. :-p02:06
Seveasit will likely be available in the october 2005 version too02:06
Nalioths00d: no need to compile, it's all in the repos02:06
s00dIt is?02:06
SeveasNalioth, it is already? nice102:06
s00dI can't seem to find it. I have all the repos enabled.02:06
Nalioths00d: sorry, i misunderstood02:06
s00dOh. :-(02:06
NaliothSeveas: calm down, i misunderstood02:06
mik399% [10 Packages bzip2 0]  [15 Packages gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers] 02:06
s00dSo it might pop up on the repos in about a month?02:07
Seveass00d, probably you still run Ubuntu 5.04/hoary. There will never be networkmanager for that version02:07
=== Nalioth is currenty inflicting breezy on his imac
[DF2] i started the internet connection with pppoeconf.. is there another way connect? and once connected how do i disconnect.. and kill any pppoe processes that might still be running???02:07
mik3gzip: stdin: not in gzip format02:07
mik3Err http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org experimental/main Packages02:07
mik3  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:07
s00dReally? Oh.02:07
=== worthawholebean [n=worthawh@69.0.31.221] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasmik3, throw out AOL, somehow they are mangling your downloads02:07
s00dIs ther any other utility that might let me easily do WPA?02:07
=== Nalioth has more than one mac. Dont put breezy on your only machine (unless you know what you are doing)
=== imfuedsfalic [n=imfuedsf@66-211-236-242.velocity.net] has left #ubuntu []
Seveass00d, networkmanager does not easily do WPA02:08
Seveasat least not the version I once tried02:08
s00dOh, right.02:08
s00dSo, still stuffed re: wpa?02:09
=== infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"]
Seveass00d, yeah, wpa is a bitch, install wpasupplicant and hack up a configfile02:09
cafuegoit's about a s useless as wep, so i wouldn't unduly worry about it02:09
=== mcphail [n=mcphail@dynamic-62-56-44-59.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
Seveascafuego, WPA is much more secure02:09
=== mik3 calls AOL.
Naliothmik3: what are you calling them?02:09
cafuegojust leave the AP open and run a vpn on top02:09
JKnifeare there US Mirrors???? im getting ~50kB/sec02:10
Naliothmik3: and don't be too vulgar here02:10
Seveasanyhow, mv /proc/self /dev/bed02:10
Seveascya all!02:10
NaliothJKnife: yes there are02:10
Zhukov_Hasta Seveas02:10
=== tear [n=tear@62-181-70-216.skbbip.com] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifewhere?02:10
mik3Nalioth : names that would cause lilo to akill me from this network if i repeated.02:10
tearis the "make" command difrent in ubuntu?02:11
s00dI'm way too scared to try and tangle with wpasupplicant ;-(02:11
cafuegotear: No. What are you trying to compile?02:11
mik3lol Seveas02:11
mik3dork02:11
mik3gnight02:11
Naliothmik3: you mean you are not using words with them that would melt the phone lines immediately? tsk tsk02:11
=== levander [i=cponder@user-1121c7a.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifeNalioth, are they already in sources.list?02:11
levanderAnybody know if lmbench is in the repositories somewhere and I'm just missing it?02:11
tearcafuego: anything, it just returns that no makefile is present02:11
=== Demon_stroke [i=spiritwo@71-9-133-61.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
cafuegotear: And, is there one?02:12
JKnifeor where can i get a list or URI?02:12
cafuego!find lmbench02:12
levanderFind hard to believe it's not in there, anandtech uses it for their benchmarks, and the software is GPL'd02:12
tearyea, the ./configure part works perfectly. I get the make files, but somehow it won't use them02:12
NaliothJKnife: when you open your sources.list, put us. in front of ubuntu.blah.blah02:12
mik3aol is fast on linux, just crappy tun device02:12
s00dmeuserj|work: where is the splash screen posted?02:12
cafuegotear: Which software specifically?02:12
=== worthawholebean [n=worthawh@69.0.15.195] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegotear: ie: are you compiling something you shouldn't be compiling to begin with?02:13
tearcafuego: right now I'm on VLC02:13
levandercafuego: uboto was supposed to respond to that command?02:13
worthawholebeanHi!02:13
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
worthawholebeanI have an Epson Stylus Color 740. I haven't installed any extra drivers or anything. I have selected the Gimp-Print driver. However, when I try to print something, Ubuntu says it is printing and then finishes but nothing happens with the Printer. It's connected via USB to my Mac.02:13
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'lmbench' returned no results.02:13
JKnifeok02:13
cafuegolevander: Yes.02:13
meuserj|works00d, I don't know if it is... I just rebooted breezy for the first time in a while and saw it.02:13
levandercafuego: guess it just took a while02:13
cafuegolevander: SO it's not in main/resctricted/universe/multiverse.02:14
s00dOh, right.02:14
worthawholebeanCan anyone help me? Thanks.02:14
cafuegotear: vlc is precompiled and in Ubuntu.02:14
cafuego!info vlc02:14
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB02:14
=== Kromonos [n=kromonos@pppoe3-99-luxdsl-111.pt.lu] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegotear: Enable the 'universe' repository.02:14
Kromonoskromonos@KromLap:~$ eject /dev/dvd02:15
Kromonoseject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument02:15
KromonosWhat does this error mean?02:15
Naliothworthawholebean: we've seen your question. if anyone knows, they'll answer02:15
worthawholebeanThank you.02:15
s00dNot wanting to start a flame war or anything. I really like GNOME, but my system struggles a little with it. Is KDE noticeably leaner at all?02:15
tearcafuego: excuse my lack of knollage but how02:15
Naliothworthawholebean: you might check the forums or hit the mailing lists02:15
=== LinuxDolt [n=alp@cblmdm205-162-222-101.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ubuntu
cafuego!repos02:15
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:15
worthawholebeanI posted on the forums.02:16
Nalioths00d: use xfce4 or enlightenment02:16
cafuegotear: Visit the url ubotu just posted02:16
=== _tester_ [n=yz@216.238.203.165] has joined #ubuntu
=== jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #ubuntu
=== benplaut [n=benplaut@72.42.42.185] has joined #ubuntu
Seveass00d, KDE is MUCH heavier than gnome02:18
mik3go to bed Mr.02:18
Seveasxfce is lighter, try that one02:18
levanderWhat would be the most popular benchmark under Linux?02:18
Seveasmik3, i'm waiting for some downloads to finish02:18
=== cornflake [n=cornflak@ip68-4-36-107.pv.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
mik3oh02:18
cafuegolevander: benchmarks are useless02:18
mik3the story of my life02:18
mik3=>02:18
s00dOh, right. Thanks for telling me before I tried switching, seveas. :-)02:19
Seveascafuego, neh, they keep tweakers happy, so they have some use :)02:19
cafuegolevander: A cpu bench would be a kernel compile (useless as the kernel might be configured differently) and a disk one bonnie++.02:19
cafuegoSeveas: Oh, right.02:19
mik3ok i give up on apt-get updates02:19
cafuegolevander: Gentoo is a Linux benchmark.02:19
levandercafuego: you've got to have some place to start, benchmarks better than most02:19
Seveaslevander, there are lies, evil lies and statistics/benchmarks02:19
cafuegoMind you, it benches the linux USER, not the system.02:19
cafuegolevander: the the cpu_mhz number in /proc/cpuinfo is higher, the system is probably faster.02:20
LinuxDoltcafuego: haha02:20
=== t0mmy [n=t0mmy@24-159-104-11.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
levandercafuego: thanks for the tip, but that won't help much with what i'm working on02:20
t0mmyopenoffice 1.1.3 freezes on a right click02:21
t0mmyi tried reinstalling and it didn't help02:21
t0mmyany ideas?02:21
cafuegoare you comparing a ppc to an intel box?02:21
=== karma_ [n=karma@83.149.193.45] has joined #ubuntu
mcphailHave been having some trouble installing Colony 3 (and other udev using distros) on a USB hard disk. Has anyone else had problems?02:21
levandercafuego: no02:21
Zhukov_does colony 3 supports ipw2100?02:21
UbuntuN00bHow do I extract a Tar, I forget. :(02:22
SeveasZhukov_, it should02:22
cafuegoUbuntuN00b: tar x foo.tar02:22
SeveasUbuntuN00b, tar -xf filename.tar02:22
cafuegoright, f02:22
t0mmy>_>02:22
UbuntuN00bWhat do the x and the f stand for anyway? :-p02:22
mik3xtra fruity!02:22
cafuegoeXtract File02:22
karma_Hello! What's the minimal requestions for hardware running web-server (apache+php+mysql) with 30-40 simultaneously connections02:22
cafuegosee 'man tar' for additional clarification.02:23
=== t0mmy [n=t0mmy@24-159-104-11.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["sigh"]
UbuntuN00bUm What if it's a tar.gz02:23
worthawholebeanThe wiki printer requirements table says this: Needs cupsys-driver-gimpprint from universe.02:23
UbuntuN00bis that the same?02:23
SeveasUbuntuN00b, tar zxv filename.tar.gz02:23
JKnifeAHH its slower on the us servers02:23
mik3karma_ : depends on what the users are going to be doing02:23
cafuegokarma_: Pentium 166 with 64Mb ram (if you want to be running php on it too) otherwise 32Mb will pobably do.02:23
cafuegoSeveas: xfz02:23
Seveascafuego, zxf02:23
Seveasthe f must come last :)02:23
JKnifetar -xvzf foo.tar.bz202:24
LinuxDoltokay...  i went and installed the standalone flash player from Macromedia on a x86_64, forcing the architecture.  it is complaining about the following: gflashplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:24
worthawholebeanxzvf02:24
JKnifetar -xvjf foo.tar.bz2*02:24
cafuegoSeveas: no, it doesn't. Feel free to check.02:24
JKnifetar -xvzf foo.tar.gz02:24
karma_mik3: hehe, forum, chat and other low-traffic stuff02:24
Seveascafuego, hmm...02:24
worthawholebeantar -xvf foo.tar02:24
mcphailSeveas: i think some versions of tar need 'f' last02:24
NaliothLinuxDolt: that's what happens when you 1) use non ubuntu stuff, and 2) force things02:24
Seveasmcphail, yeah, at least the solaris version does02:24
JKnife-j = bz2, -z = gz, -x = extract, -v=verbose, -f=file02:25
cafuegoLinuxDolt: 32bit chroot02:25
LinuxDoltNalioth: pfft, wine forced just fine ;)02:25
mik3karma_ : i'd say throw it on at least a pII 350/128mb02:25
NaliothLinuxDolt: chrooting the stuff into a 32bit environment doest work?02:25
cafuegoLinuxDolt: yes, I *know* it's *supposed* tow rok, but 32bit chroot.02:25
worthawholebeanWith my printer, if it says "Needs cupsys-driver-gimpprint from universe." in the Wiki HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters, does that mean I need to install something before I can set up my printer?02:25
SeveasLinuxDolt, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.302:25
LinuxDolthow do i make a 32bit chroot in ubuntu?02:25
Seveasso you need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.202:25
cafuegotear: Pick a different mirror.02:25
=== smo [n=soneil@pdpc/supporter/active/smo] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxDolt!chroot02:26
ubotuchroot is, like, totally, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457502:26
cafuegotear: and please don't paste stuff to me in msg)02:26
=== x33x [n=peck@146.Red-217-126-140.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
tearcafuego: roger!02:26
mik3W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:26
x33xhey all. running irc on lynx, how can I close a window?02:27
mcphailCan anyone help me with udev and the boot process?02:27
x33xrunning irc from the shell on ubuntu i meant, not lynx... blah, i'm a little off, sorry02:28
JKnifeis Dev-Cpp for linux in the rap?02:28
Naliothx33x: what client?02:28
x33xjust typed irc02:29
mik3j33x: /exit02:29
LinuxDoltJKnife: i dunno, but Code::Blocks is02:29
mik3oh a window?02:29
mik3hmm irssi.02:29
x33x;) mik302:29
mik3./help win02:29
mik3Seveas : i have narrowed my problems down to something with gzip02:29
=== picole [n=picole@202.101.10.194] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasmik3, gzip is fine, the downloads somehow get mangled02:30
mik3no way beaves02:30
mik3look...02:30
mik3well02:30
mik3all the errors i get are about gzip02:30
mik3i just went to upgrade gzip and it failed02:31
mik3someone hax0red my gzip02:31
mik3and replaced it with chimpanzees02:31
Seveasyeah, gzip is responsible for unpacking your downloads02:31
mik3oh02:31
mik3=<02:31
=== karma_ [n=karma@83.149.193.45] has left #ubuntu []
LinuxDoltJKnife: if you are interested in Code::Blocks, it is available here: http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php/Compiling_Code::Blocks_in_Linux_%28applies_to_all_distros%2902:31
JKnifek02:31
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== LinuxDolt has no idea how it runs in linux... last he heard it still had a lot of work to be done
malvo1So does Shuttleworth ever hang out in here?02:32
SeveasLinuxDolt, what's Code::Blocks?02:32
rob^malvo1, yes02:32
Seveasmalvo1, not too often02:32
malvo1He's a linux stud02:33
JKnifeSeveas, its a IDE02:33
LinuxDoltSeveas: a C++ IDE made in wxWidgets with a helpful set of additional wxWidgets templates02:33
cafuegomalvo1: that would explain it, they all hang out in #gentoo.02:33
Seveaseek wxwidgests....02:33
LinuxDoltSeveas: don't like wx?02:34
=== wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-173-207-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
wasabiI don't suppose anybody knows hwo to make NFS work without reverse DNS?02:34
cafuegowasabi: /etc/hosts02:34
JKnifei want to get into Evas and edje...02:34
malvo1i used to use gentoo, then I realized that compiling everything is impractical in a work environment02:34
wasabicafuego: without that too.02:35
=== x33x [n=x33x@146.Red-217-126-140.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
wasabiI would really just like to disable the requirement in NFS.02:35
x33xback in graph ;)02:35
LinuxDolthow can you not have /etc/hosts...02:35
JKnifemalvo1, ive used gentoo before but compiling everything a a AMD K6-2/333mHz didnt seem worthit02:35
cafuegowasabi: use IPs and nost hostnames? Don't run it through the tcp wrappers?02:36
wasabiIt's not thru TCP wrappers.02:36
wasabiOkay, here's the thing. I have two boxes. They are both on non static public IPs. The IPs will change in teh future. They are doing ddns for forward dns.02:36
wasabiI have a static route between them so they go over the lan.02:36
=== sjg [n=jason@67.126.87.116] has left #ubuntu []
wasabimount: kyoto:/shares failed, reason given by server: Permission denied02:37
wasabiSo the server is actively denying it. I have not enabled tcp wrappers.02:37
=== johntramp [n=john@222-153-46-25.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxDoltSeveas LinuxDolt, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 || Seveas so you need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 || so... exactly what does this mean?  i have libstdc++ 6.x and glibc2.x, but they are at higher versions02:38
johntramphey I have just installed ubuntu and cant get it off 640x480 resolution02:39
wasabiFor some reason I had thought it was DNS... I am trying to figure out why I thought that now.02:39
SeveasLinuxDolt, install that package02:39
Seveas libstdc++2.10-glibc2.202:39
johntrampin xorg.conf it has Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" yet still will only use 640x48002:39
=== SUPEROGT [n=Diego@201.152.19.138] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxDoltSeveas: i don't see it in synaptic :/02:39
cafuegoLinuxDolt: They're also amd64 versions, not ia32 ones.02:39
johntrampthe pc has an intel graphics card,  are there some drivers I need to install to get it going ?02:39
wasabiOkay, yeah. The error from the server Sep  2 19:39:17 kyoto-ls-net mountd[7638] : mount request from unknown host x.x.140.66 for /shares (/shares)02:40
malvo1try removing 640x48002:40
SUPEROGTHi, anyone know where can i get doc about Gnoppix ?02:40
JKnifegoogle02:40
cafuegowasabi: it's using an IP that's not listed in exports then.02:40
SeveasLinuxDolt, it's in universe02:41
johntrampmalvo1, oh yea, when I did that it wouldnt start gdm02:41
Seveas        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages02:41
wasabiAhh hah!02:41
wasabiThat was it. Hah. Stupid me.02:41
malvo1Seveas: Hmmm, I am not sure then02:41
SUPEROGTSomeone else ? i looked at Google, that's the reason cause i'm asking02:41
wasabiI'm sorry for asking that. =(02:41
LinuxDoltSeveas: blargh.  there is something clearly wrong with my repo sources...  except there ISN'T X.X02:42
cafuegowasabi: Youi also want to make sure those boxes are nicely firewalled from the outside world.02:42
wasabicafuego: yeah, got that covered.02:42
wasabiSo, on another topic... is there any super cool routing protocol I can install on these two public boxes so they will realize they are on local LAN and set up static routes?02:42
wasabiWithout me having to deal with it.02:42
=== hybrid_goth [n=hybrid@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu
SUPEROGTso any help about Gnoppix documentation ?02:42
cafuegowasabi: I don't think so.02:42
SeveasSUPEROGT, www.google.com/search?q=gnoppix02:43
cafuegowasabi: Can I privmsg you?02:43
wasabiSure.02:43
SUPEROGTdah02:43
wasabiAbout the evils of having them wide open or something?02:43
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== cafuego h4xx0rz y00
Seveas /remove #ubuntu cafuego Seveas h4xx0rzz y0002:44
Seveas:p02:44
LinuxDoltdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse02:45
=== houman_zhu [n=dave123@d36-104-145.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu
wasabiSomebody mentioned OSPF a few weeks ago as a potential solution.02:45
LinuxDoltthat line SHOULD include that package, nay?02:45
SUPEROGThum02:45
wasabiBut I never figured that out.02:45
SeveasLinuxDolt, yes02:45
cafuegoSeveas: Sshhh.02:45
LinuxDoltyet i don't have that package...02:45
Seveascafuego, je band loopt leeg :p02:45
cafuegoSeveas: neen, dat is mijn hoofd.02:46
houman_zhui have a question regarding the mail command, everytime i try to send an email from commandline it is sent from localhost.localdomain, how do i set the commandline mail client to use my real email info?02:46
SeveasLinuxDolt, make sure you spell it correctly :)02:46
LinuxDoltSeveas: that's what copy and paste is for ;)02:46
cafuegohouman_zhu: Check /etc/mailname and /etc/postfix/main.cf02:46
SeveasLinuxDolt, then don't forget to remove the trailing ':'02:46
LinuxDoltSeveas: of course02:46
cafuegohouman_zhu: it will use info from either of those files and prefix your login name.02:46
=== SUPEROGT [n=Diego@201.152.19.138] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
houman_zhucafuego: thank you , also if this email command works does that mean im runing a mail server?02:47
Seveashouman_zhu, yes (usually)02:47
cafuegohouman_zhu: if you installed ubuntu, you're running postfix (a mail server).02:47
houman_zhucafuego:i mean its obviously not using my outgoing server that i specified in thunderbird for example, can i kinda make it use the info from thunderbird?02:47
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-2-gre-82-250-62-138.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Seveashouman_zhu, no02:48
cafuegohouman_zhu: yes, you can.02:48
elvirolohi02:48
LinuxDoltep: Couldn't find package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.202:48
houman_zhucafuego: hmm, i guess most of you guys turn it off after installation right?02:48
cafuegohouman_zhu: it's not exactly trivial, though.02:48
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injk01.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhucafuego: i mean the mail server02:48
cafuegohouman_zhu: No, I just set mine up to forward all mail to the office smtp server; that box is set up to deal with any mails appropriately.02:48
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
malvo1if you are using an athlon, and you use the k7 kernel, is there much of a performance boost?02:49
cafuegohouman_zhu: if you turn it off, the system can't send you info about misconfigured packages or failed cron jobs,02:49
houman_zhucafuego: but say for most people having an email server is unecesary kind of, so how would i turn it off?02:49
elviroloi currently have both ubuntu (GNOME that is) and Kubuntu installed ... but i want to get rid of ubuntu ... do i have to look for the individual ackages manually ? ubuntu-desktop depends on all these packages, but the packages don't depend on ubuntu-desktop, so it makes it difficult02:49
cafuegomalvo1: A bit, nothing to write home about.02:49
cafuegohouman_zhu: The best way is to remove postficx and install nullmailer (many packages depend on an installed mail server, that gives you a fake one, so other stuff doesn't break)02:50
elvirolo/koin #kubuntu02:50
skajai get this error when i try to dial out using ubuntu cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit02:50
elvirolowhoops02:50
houman_zhucafuego: so if you set up your mail toforward to the office mail server, say you sent an email to bob@mail.com, will bob see your real office email address as the sender? i mean im trying to think how does your office mail server figure out who this mail was sent frmo02:50
cafuegoshite; don't you hate it when you forget to take the olive pips out of your espresso cup?02:51
elviroloideas anyone ?02:51
houman_zhucafuego: wow that sounds like a great idea, cuz i dont want the overhead of running an unecessary service02:51
cafuegohouman_zhu: You can give it mapping tables; so that email coming from cafuego@dhcp-10.10.1.18.intranet is mapped to cafuego@domain.com before it's sent on.02:51
cafuegohouman_zhu: If you already use thunderbird anyway, just install nullmailer.02:52
houman_zhucafuego: you got to ask the admin right? in that case i cant do that, i have a commercial ISP02:52
cafuegohouman_zhu: You can make YOUR postfix do that mapping.02:52
cafuegohouman_zhu: ... and then YOUR postfix can send those mails on securely to your ISPs mail server, which can then do as it sees fit.02:53
houman_zhucafuego: thanks, i guess i should go with the nullmailer thing, thank you so mcuh for your help02:53
cafuegohouman_zhu: It's just a matter of deciding whether it's worth fiddling with for a week... ;-)02:53
=== Hentai^NT [n=Robert@57-6.cable.guam.net] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhucafuego: yea, i might set that up, its cool to be able to send mail from commandline, hahaha, im such a geek02:54
=== pcharky [n=khagen@ip503c6061.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhucafuego: im being nosy , one question, do you run ubuntu in your office?02:55
cafuegohouman_zhu: The thing in postfi to look for is a smarthost (maybe using smtp auth) and virtusertable settings.02:55
=== NightLord [n=bruce@jazzmusic.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
skajai get this error when i try to dial out using ubuntu cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit02:55
elvirolomy menus in kubuntu lack a lot of entries like kmail, kfrb, etc ... anyone knows why ?02:56
elvirolois there a workaround ?02:56
=== phrizer [n=lance@60-234-134-230.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegohouman_zhu: I have two machines running Ubuntu, one running WinXP, one running Win2K, one running Debian Sarge and two running MacOS X Tiger.02:56
houman_zhucafuego: thanks, i guess i have to read some docs about postfix if i wanna figure that out02:56
CarlFKbooted, grub came up.  is there a way to get it to boot the CD or floppy?02:56
NightLordcan someone help me with a ppproblem i gooot with my mouse?02:56
houman_zhucafuego: is that a home office or somehting :|02:56
cafuegohouman_zhu: The remote (main) server runs Debian sarge.02:56
cafuegohouman_zhu: yep.02:56
elviroloplease ... ideas ?02:56
houman_zhucafuego: at my work they just give you one box, haha02:56
cafuegohouman_zhu: The remote server does all the main mail handling (for clients as well).02:57
=== Madpilot [n=yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhucafuego: no wonder you knwo so much, for us the admin does everything so we wont learn squat02:57
elvirololisten, is there an ubuntu channel with proper geeks that answer *any* of your questions in half a second ?02:57
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injk01.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
JKnifeyeah its called man02:57
cafuegohouman_zhu: I *am* the admin.02:57
houman_zhucafuego: i assume youre hosting a website there too right?02:57
JKnifeelvirolo, ^02:57
NightLordclicking doesn't work right, like, when i try to right click, or click drop downs etc, i have to hold down the mouse button, even though normally if i click it stays open02:57
cafuegohouman_zhu: I host web and mail for about 120 domains.02:57
Madpilotelvirolo: this is about as good as it gets... and keep in mind that nobody gets paid to be here...02:58
JKnifeMadpilot, i dont think he has meet man yet02:58
houman_zhucafuego: wow thats pretty amazing, do you do web design and programming too?02:58
cafuegohouman_zhu: A bit yes.02:58
JKnifeweb design is a LOT easier then programming02:59
cafuegohouman_zhu: I wrote most of the admin backend, so clients can manage all their own email stuff (liek adding mailboxes and aliases)02:59
=== NightLord [n=bruce@jazzmusic.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
NightLordso does anyone know whats wrong?02:59
houman_zhucafuego: lotsa shell scripting?02:59
cafuegoJKnife: Not really. only if you think designing involves putting a picture and an ugly font on a site.02:59
cafuegohouman_zhu: php02:59
cafuegohouman_zhu: and C wrappers02:59
pcharkyJKnife: I disagree.. I'm a total loser at webdesign ;)02:59
cafuegoJKnife: If you add the requirement for cross-browser and disabled accessibility...03:00
houman_zhuweb design could get VERY complicated, i had a friend who worked at amazon, and some of the server side programming is pretyt hardcore, os webdesign is more than just html03:00
JKnifecafuego, your right flash, java, and cgi are a bit tricky03:00
NightLordso thats a no?03:00
monkey89ugh, java is so not web design03:01
cafuegoJKnife: I use neither flash nor java, as they're not cross comparible. (My amd64 box runs neither).03:01
pcharkyJKnife: It's about as tricky as you want it to be.03:01
JKnifethey dont have it for amd64?03:01
houman_zhuim sure there is java virtual thingie for amd too03:01
cafuegoThere's a 1.4.2 java plugin03:01
Madpilotat least 90% of the flash & java in use, shouldn't be in use at all... perhaps that should be 99%...03:01
Seveascafuego, sun jave runs fine on amd64 :)03:01
cafuegoThe 1.5 jre has no plugin.03:01
cafuegoSeveas: Yes, I know. Applications. Not web stuff.03:02
houman_zhui agreee with java because it makes loading webpages slow, but i think flash is cool, i think the new generation of websites will have lotsa flash03:02
cafuegohouman_zhu: flash is BAD.03:02
monkey89the flash plugin crashes my browser once in a while, sound is lagged03:02
Madpilothouman_zhu: unfortunately, you may be right... :(03:02
Agrajagflash makes accessibility pretty much impossible03:02
cafuegohouman_zhu: 1) it is slow to load; more then 50% of people are on 56K. Flash cannot be indexed by search engines.03:02
houman_zhucafuego: why? then how do you make interactive and colorful webpages? no java and no flash? then what else?03:02
pcharkyTo me, it's all perl.03:03
monkey89you can still be interactive with ajax03:03
monkey89ive heard great things about ruby on rails03:03
JKnifehave yall seen the 3d window manager that is being built off java?03:03
cafuegohouman_zhu: If people want interactivity that requires flash I tell them to find a gfx designer, not a web coder.03:03
monkey89looking glass? yes03:03
Naliothhouman_zhu: css javascript03:03
Madpilothouman_zhu: CSS & PHP can do pretty cool things03:03
=== Xenguy [n=gnu@xenarchy.ca] has joined #ubuntu
pabqasyo.03:03
=== Demon_stroke [i=spiritwo@71-9-133-61.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhucss and javasript wont give you the kinda visdual effects you could get from flash03:03
monkey89i recommend yuo look at csszengarden03:04
pabqasanyone ever come accross a situation whereby you ping localhost ( or try to do anything ) and get an 'operation not permitted'03:04
Demon_strokeok i dl'd the essentail codecs, how do i get them installed03:04
houman_zhucafuego: and where do 50% of people have dialup? USA? mo way, everyone has broadband03:04
cafuegohouman_zhu: People don't LOOK at websites because they want visual effects. They want info.03:04
pabqasEverything seemed to be fine until a while back03:04
cafuegohouman_zhu: I suggest you check the figures before you make that usa broadband claim.03:04
JKnifehouman_zhu, only 75% of ppl have broadband in the US03:04
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injk01.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilothttp://www.csszengarden.com/ <-- pure CSS & graphics. no flash. not at all boring03:04
houman_zhucafuego: i disagree, MOST of the time people lok to the web for entertainment03:04
NightLordI really need help03:04
monkey89^^03:04
=== tristanmike [n=tristan@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
JKnifehouman_zhu, where do you live(state pm it if you want)03:05
MadpilotNightLord: ask your questions, someone will stop being off-topic long enough to help...03:05
Demon_strokecan some1 giv me directions on setting up codecs03:05
skajacan some one help me with my error03:05
houman_zhuits ifne, canada03:05
cafuegohouman_zhu: I find that the clients I work for don't have that audience.03:05
NightLordi did ask it03:05
JKnifeb/c in the south a lot of people dont have broadband03:05
NightLordbut i'll ask again03:05
Madpilot!tell Demon_stroke about restricted03:05
monkey89Demon_stroke, what do you mean by setting up codecs?  what type of format do you want to play?03:05
cafuegohouman_zhu: Thus I don't have to build shock-the-monkey flash scripts.03:05
cafuegoJKnife: ... or a house03:06
houman_zhucafuego: ok, then you cant make a general claim about web usage, i liek flash, specially those games :p03:06
monkey89flash and java are appropriate for games.  not for navigation or pretty much most elements of a website03:06
Demon_strokeI want to play mp3 files, but it says no codecs, so i downloaded the codecs wut do i do with them03:06
NightLordI seem to be having a problem with my mouse,  aka, normally when i right click or click on drop down lists, i click once, and the menu stays open, but now, i have to hold down the button to get it to stay open, why?03:06
JKnifecafuego, they have trailers03:06
=== jfosa [n=jfosa@fosajc0.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu
jfosadir03:06
monkey89Demon_stroke, www.ubuntuguide.org has a section on how to play mp3s03:06
jfosahow do i install a bin file?03:06
monkey89jfosa, chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin03:06
skajaerror cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit03:06
MadpilotDemon_stroke: see the msg that ubotu sent you for codecs info03:07
cafuegohouman_zhu: I'm just going on what I have seen from people I visit and work for. Most know about flash, but aren't interested in waitinf for movies or splash intros to download. They invariably click 'skip'.03:07
houman_zhucafuego: but i think the future of the web wont be html, it will be something else, i mean in the future people will have broadband and there is a need for something more sophisticated than pure js and css, thats why i assumed flash would be it03:07
Demon_strokei got the codecs i cant figure out wut i do with them03:07
jfosamonkey89: thanks03:07
monkey89Demon_stroke, please read the website I mentioned.03:07
cafuegohouman_zhu: maybe you have experience with different usage, but I know what my clienst want and I know what I prefer designing <heh>03:07
MadpilotDemon_stroke: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:08
houman_zhucafuego: absoluetly i didnt say youre wrong, im just saying there is a large group out there (maybe 50%) who go to websites for entertainment, for example i like when people show their thumbnails and images using flash, very interactive :)03:08
skajai think i helped my self03:08
NaliothDemon_stroke: put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs03:09
=== pcharky [n=khagen@ip503c6061.speed.planet.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Madpilothouman_zhu: I'm waiting for JS-activated animated SVGs - that's going to be cool, and a lot more bandwidth-friendly than Flash (and Free, too)03:09
cafuegohouman_zhu: The future of the web 9if corporations have anything to say about it) involves an INTARWEB Browser[tm]  with a menu of precompiled crap and advertisit. A bit like AOL.03:09
houman_zhucafuego: so i guess unecssarily long and tedious intros to websites with flash are redundant, but there are places that they are very much appropriate03:09
monkey89svg can definitely be a future animation tech for websites03:09
skajanope that wont work shoot03:10
cafuegohouman_zhu: Perhaps, I find that showing thumnails in flash as opposed to just pngs on html is slower.03:10
Demon_strokeah, thanks nalioth03:10
houman_zhucafuego: you say AOL? if thats the future of the web then ill run over with my modem with my truck and never use my computer again03:10
rob_pskaja:  Whatcha tryin' to do?03:10
cafuegohouman_zhu: Time Warner already owns you <heh>03:10
houman_zhucafuego: if you have broadband and a new cpu i dont think you can really tell the difference03:10
houman_zhucafuego: why? my isp is not AOL03:11
rob_pskaja:  not saying that I can help or anything... just curious...03:11
=== incubii [n=incubii@cor9-ppp657.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
monkey89i have a pentium 4 2.4 ghz, 512 mb ram.  I can't play a simple flash game of pong with the sound on or it lags like crazy.03:11
Madpilothouman_zhu: sure, *assuming* that flash works for you at all...03:11
cafuegohouman_zhu: Your main content provider probably is, though.03:11
houman_zhucafuego: :( that sucks , i thought my isp was a small canadian company run by good old local people03:12
cafuegohouman_zhu: Your opinion on internet latency is probably a bit skewed as well. I live a MINIMUM 170msec away from anywhere except new zealand.03:12
=== fadrian [n=fadrian@ftp.ancar.org] has joined #ubuntu
=== fadrian [n=fadrian@ftp.ancar.org] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
houman_zhucafuego: :| may i ask where you live? pupa new ginea or something?03:12
cafuegohouman_zhu: Bit further south.03:13
cafuegohouman_zhu: Australia (Melbourne)03:13
skajais grub the only one i can use?03:13
JKnifeno03:13
JKnifeyou can use lilo03:13
houman_zhucafuego: oh ok, hahah, well you guys are connected to internet backbones through satellite or somerthing i dunno, so i dont think it will be slow03:13
=== neighborlee [n=neighbor@d23-73.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
skajai like lilo better how do i use lilo03:14
cafuegohouman_zhu: sattellites are FAR slower then cable.03:14
JKnifeapt-get install lilo03:14
houman_zhucafuego: ohg now that im talking to a pro, do you know how i can lauch embedded videos in websites in an external player, i always have to switch to windows cuz i cant watch the daily show in my browser03:14
skajasatt has a bad upload speed03:15
cafuegohouman_zhu: No, we have a few links from Sydnet to LA and sydney/melbourne to Auckland then LA. I think there's something going off north through the Phillipines as well.03:15
JKnifeapt-get remove lilo03:15
JKnifeapt-get remove grub*03:15
wasabiWonder if there is some creative way to completely disable the BIOS screens on my mobo. =/03:15
cafuegohouman_zhu: Still, 6000km equals lag.03:15
skajaoh thanks03:15
JKnifeapt-get remove grub && apt-get install lilo03:15
JKnifethere we go03:15
cafuegohouman_zhu: embedded video doesn't run on AMD64.03:15
houman_zhucafuego: well, latency doesnt mean low speed right?03:15
houman_zhucafuego: why embedded video doesnt run on amd? im sure everything in linux has been ported to amd03:16
cafuegohouman_zhu: I'd never design a site with embedded video anyway, I'd provide a link03:16
cafuegohouman_zhu: Oh no, it's FAST enough, the initial response time isn't low, though.03:16
houman_zhucafuego: to see embedded video you need 1- firefox 2- mplayer 3- mplayer-plugin, and there is 64 bit version for everything03:16
=== MarcN [n=marc@dsl.wildcat.mv.com] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegohouman_zhu: stuff like w32codecs (WMA, Real, Quicktime) run 32bit windows code.03:16
rob_pcafuego:  You on a satellite connection too?03:17
houman_zhucafuego: you gotta be kidding, i was gonna buy an amd now i wont03:17
cafuegohouman_zhu: amd64 doesn't run 32bit windows code when Linux runs in 64bit mode.03:17
=== Kromonos [n=kromonos@pppoe3-99-luxdsl-111.pt.lu] has left #ubuntu []
cafuegorob_p: hell no03:17
monkey89use theora video or mpeg4 or whatever it is that the guy who made the xgl videos used03:17
rob_pcafuego:  wish I could say the same :-)03:17
cafuegoI don't have a need for video, though. My DVD player, attached to the TV, works fine.03:17
rob_pcafuego:  just under 1 second of latency (round-trip)03:18
houman_zhucafuego: but im sure someone will port those codecs to 64 bit soon enough, and isnt here 32 bit emulation in amd? so it will be backward compatible with 32 bits? or yhou totally cant run anythign 3203:18
cyphaseare there any plans at all to combine gstreamer and xine?03:18
cafuegorob_p: yeah, annoying on remote shells.03:18
monkey89cyphase, combine in what sense03:18
wasabicyphase: whatcha mean by that03:18
Demon_strokeok im still having trouble with the codecs and i looked at that page03:18
cyphasetake the best from both and make them one framework03:18
cafuegohouman_zhu: They haven't ported them in the past year; what do you mean by 'soon' ?03:18
wasabigstreamer is the best.03:19
wasabiHeh.03:19
=== Quinthius [n=james@ip68-103-73-17.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
cyphasethere are formats 1 supports that the other doesn't03:19
wasabiThen the code can't be copied.03:19
cafuegohouman_zhu: I can run them in a 32bit chroot, yes. but i don't NEED them, so why would I bother setting them up?03:19
rob_pcafuego:  Yup!  I've got 2 open at the moment as well as a VPN to a couple of servers in the US... latency HELL!!!03:19
houman_zhucafuego: well the number of people owning 64 bit processors is increasing dramatically, im sure the free software people will come up with a solution soon03:19
Demon_strokesudo apt-get install "file name here?"03:19
cafuegohouman_zhu: that's optimistic, I'03:19
cafuegom not holding my breath.03:20
=== IcemanV9 [n=nobody@adsl-68-79-61-21.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegohouman_zhu: If you want Linux on an amd64, just run the i386 flavour. it'll STILL be faster then a P4.03:20
houman_zhucafuego: but i want higher floating point op accuracy!!!! haha im, kidding03:21
MadpilotDemon_stroke: use Synaptic, it's easier than apt-get...03:21
Madpilot!tell Demon_stroke about synaptic03:21
cafuegohouman_zhu: INT_MAX is still INT_MAX03:21
houman_zhuyea but im sure there is some benefits in runing them i a real 64 bit environment03:22
houman_zhuit like buying a corvette and driving it in manhattan03:22
Hentai^NTlol03:22
houman_zhui mean, you cant benefit from the speed or whatever the 64 bit cpu has to offer if you run it in 3203:22
=== durt [n=ben@pcp0011938702pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Agrajagof course you can, you can't have more than 4GB of ram, but who has that much?03:23
houman_zhuso is that th eonly advantage of amd 64 ? you can have more ram?03:24
Agrajagthey're still faster in 32-bit mode than a 32-bit processor, due to just plain being better03:24
Agrajagwell no, but it's the most immediate one03:24
=== Xanthus7 [n=chris@az-yuma-cuda1q-32.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Agrajagit's the only one you'd notice right now03:24
Agrajagonce the userland comes together and you can do everything in 64-bit mode that you can in 32, it'll be better to run 64-bit03:24
=== aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhuok, well, i wont have money to buy one, im happy with my centrino :p03:25
AgrajagI just got one yesterday03:25
houman_zhuwhich isnt really fast, in spite of what the dude at best buy told me03:25
houman_zhuamd?03:25
Agrajaggonna go reinstall ubuntu in a few minutes03:25
Agrajagyeah03:25
Agrajaga 3000+03:25
houman_zhu3500?03:25
Agrajaggod no03:25
houman_zhuwhy not go for the dual core?03:25
Agrajagtoo expensive03:25
Agrajagwaaaay too expensive03:25
houman_zhuor the multicore03:26
AgrajagI'm not paying more than $200 for a processor, no way03:26
houman_zhuyea, the dual core is like 1000, more than my laptop03:26
Xanthus7what can you tell me about breezy is it worth installing03:26
Naliothcafuego: you here?03:26
MarcNhouman_zhu: I'm playing around with an opteron dc -- very nice.03:27
MarcNsadly not running ubuntu or even debian...03:27
=== Cidolfas [n=null@adsl-67-118-13-48.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhuthen what?03:27
houman_zhudont say the W word03:27
MarcNhouman_zhu: RHEL 4.  on a 2P, DC one of these: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant-bl/p-class/25p/index.html03:28
=== PurpleMotion [n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Xanthus7what can you tell me about breezy is it worth installing is stable or still a bunch of trouble03:28
monkey89its pretty decent here, but things still might break03:28
IcemanV9Xanthus7: if you have spare pc or nothing to lose (losing data), then install and play with it03:28
NaliothXanthus7: wait a couple weeks03:28
houman_zhubreezy is the new one? its available for dl ?03:29
IcemanV9or even dual-boot (hoary & breezy)03:29
monkey89there are preleases03:29
=== CCFIEL [n=kelly@210.213.153.163] has joined #ubuntu
CCFIELhello ppl..03:29
houman_zhuwow , im off to screw up my comp03:29
Naliothhouman_zhu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com03:29
durtbreezy seems no more troublesome than hoary03:29
monkey89hey, im using it on my only desktop here, and it works quite well - but ive used linux long enough to know how to fix things when they break03:30
monkey89and all my data is on another hard disk03:30
CCFIELwhat will i install so that i could have a big icons in my lower center of my desktop? like i  have seen..03:30
CCFIELto other sample desktp03:30
monkey89engage, gdesklets starterbar03:30
monkey89you mean the zooming bar, right?03:30
CCFIELyes..03:30
houman_zhucafuego: anywya sim off to bed, thanks again for all your help if youre there, night m803:30
CCFIELok..i have install gdesklets.. what is next?:)03:30
monkey89get the starterbar desklet03:31
monkey89i dont know enough about it to help you there03:31
monkey89but check their website03:31
CCFIELmonkey...ok..thanks..03:31
=== mik3 [n=mike@AC9E3A16.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokei still cant get the codec package to install, im feelinglike more of an idiot then wen my own virus killed my comp03:35
durtwhy is is that some WMVs play fine, but others dont, and totem says they are "encrypted"?03:36
JKnifehow do i make .deb's from cvs source03:36
mik3anyone want to help me tackle a problem i have with repositories and apt-get update i am having?03:36
durtJknife: i think "make package" might do that03:36
durtjust ask mik303:37
mik3is Seveas asleep? =(03:37
=== aquarius [n=aquarius@82-37-94-127.cable.ubr04.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== avanspronsen [n=andrewv@Toronto-HSE-ppp3866743.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
CCFIELi have installed gdesklets.. i want to have the starterbar what shall i do..:( i have click gdesklets..but nothing happens..03:37
Demon_strokehey, how do i get synaptic (or wutever) to install my codec package03:38
NaliothDemon_stroke: the codec pkg has to be in the repos03:38
MadpilotDemon_stroke: do you have the Universe/Multverse repos enabled?03:38
JKnifemik3, how do i build .deb pkgs from cvs03:38
Demon_strokelemmi check brb03:38
Xanthus7I am trying to install nzb newsreader and I need this file installed Qt 403:39
Xanthus7I understand you cannot install it in this version of ubuntu but can in breezy03:39
mik3JKnife : sorry, i'm relatively new to linux, i wouldn't be much help to you. it looks like all of the helpers in here are gone.03:40
JKnifek03:40
Demon_stroke>.<03:41
=== DavidChipman [n=david@CPE00e0292c27c4-CM000f212f943c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
DavidChipmanHi all!!03:41
=== aquarius [n=aquarius@82-37-94-127.cable.ubr04.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== housetier [n=housetie@dsl-084-056-145-158.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
durtjkife: why do you need to make a deb package?03:42
DavidChipmanWhat is the initial root password for Ubuntu?03:42
NaliothDavidChipman: there is none03:42
Nalioth!tell DavidChipman about root03:43
mik3!tell Nalioth about root03:43
mik3oops03:43
DavidChipmanso, how do I log in to root?03:43
=== mik3 puts down the bottle of wine.
mik3Davey: you don't03:43
DavidChipmanmik3, eh?03:43
mik3DavidChipman: you don't03:43
NaliothDavidChipman: read what the bot sent you via PM03:43
mik3has anyone seen this problem before while doing an apt-get update ---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184103:43
QuinthiusDavidChipman: you can start a root terminal from the applications -> system menu... but mostly you're supposed to use sudo to do admining03:43
DavidChipmanWhy? How does one install software from source?03:44
=== anomaly [n=aa@adsl-0-171-207.mob.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothDavidChipman: sudo03:44
=== norhted [n=norhted@85.100.60.108] has joined #ubuntu
mik3it's annoying coming from fbsd to ubuntu with the whole sudo thing.03:44
DavidChipman(ie: su -c 'make install')03:44
QuinthiusDavidChipman: sudo...03:44
Naliothstay away from the applications > system > root terminal03:44
mik3Nalioth : why?03:44
QuinthiusNalioth: why :P03:44
DavidChipmanI'm comgin from Fedora Core03:44
anomalyI have heard there is a basic install available. where might I find it to download iso? and secondly, I was never asked for a root password, is this a ubuntu thing? :)03:45
kafeinecause you can crash kill and burn your system03:45
Naliothbecause it's a vestigial app in the menu from debian03:45
Naliothuse sudo -s instead for a temporary root terminal03:45
Demon_strokei cant enable universe/multverse beacause there is no internet connection on that computer, can i download those then add them?03:45
DavidChipmanSo? Let me crash and burn..03:45
Quinthiusnot intended to be there for ubuntu?03:45
JKnifeim out03:45
mik3anomaly : instead of hitting enter during installation, read the options, you can install server , normal desktop system, etc.03:45
anomalymik3 ty03:45
kafeineDavidChipman, feel free. Your install cs is laying around, I hope03:45
Naliothanomaly: it's the same download. just choose 'server install'03:45
Madpilot!tell anomaly about root03:45
NaliothDemon_stroke: did you read what i sent you earlier about mplayerhq?03:46
anomalyMadpilot ty03:46
kafeineanyway, it's just as unsafe for new and inexperienced users as it is for experienced ones03:46
=== expense [n=expense@24-119-135-39.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== IcemanV9 uses 'sudo' in fbsd :p
Demon_strokeyes thats were i downloaded the Codecs from, i just cant get them to work lol03:46
kafeinea friend of mine ocassionally rm-ed all of his source code just because he didn't pay attention03:46
NaliothDemon_stroke: have you opened the archive?03:46
expensedoes anyone have experience with vsftpd?03:47
=== anomaly [n=aa@adsl-0-171-207.mob.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu []
Naliothkafeine: i hate it when i do that03:47
Demon_strokeyes i did03:47
DavidChipmanHow do I change screen resolution? (What's the program name?)03:47
kafeine:)03:47
NaliothDemon_stroke: are you familiar with the terminal?03:47
Nalioth!tell DavidChipman about resolution03:47
Demon_strokeive used it to n extent03:47
NaliothDavidChipman: system > prefs > screen resolution03:48
Demon_strokeid say im pretty frimilar03:48
NaliothDemon_stroke: open a terminal, and cd into the codecs directory03:48
=== pdlnhrd [n=jason@southcity-24.107.191.198.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokek03:48
Naliothtoo much service for him, i guess03:48
NaliothDemon_stroke: type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/codecs"03:49
malvo1liferea is a nice program03:49
malvo1bad name, but nice program03:49
Naliothmalvo1: i've used yarssr and rawdog b4, but they both showed me their issues03:49
=== cruzbullit [n=dylan@ppp-70-226-129-202.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== atpwb [n=nick@cpe-69-204-253-46.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
cruzbullithey03:50
NaliothDemon_stroke: keep me informed of your progress03:50
atpwbHi, I'm trying to grep from a text file only lines beginning with a string; can anyone help me with what options I need?03:50
cruzbullitcan anyone guide me through the setup process of tvtime?03:50
Demon_strokehow do i switch dirs03:50
mik3..03:51
mik3are you serious?03:51
Madpilot!tell Demon_stroke about cli03:51
MadpilotDemon_stroke: basic command line stuff at the URLs ubotu just sent you03:52
=== rendi [n=asdasd@202.6.224.178] has joined #ubuntu
malvo1!help03:52
atpwbAny grep wonks out there?03:52
mik3gotta love a basic unix virgins03:52
mik3makes me teary eyed03:52
rendilibgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common  <== how to add in respositoris ??03:52
NaliothDemon_stroke: cd03:52
Demon_strokethanks madpilot03:52
rendiit say E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.203:52
Demon_strokek lemmi test this out03:52
NaliothDemon_stroke: just dont test with "sudo", lol03:53
malvo1any parents here that force their kids to use Linux?03:53
Quinthiushaha03:53
atpwbGrepping help, anyone? Pretty please?03:53
MarcNmalvo1: i force them to use Firefox, thunderbird and openoffice (on windows)03:53
IcemanV9force?? i think they ALREADY knew about linux! :p03:53
rendianyone can help03:53
=== lopingo [n=lopingo@espeed26-204.brunet.bn] has joined #ubuntu
lopingohello03:54
Madpilotatpwb: "man grep" isn't any help?03:54
lopingoim noob... i need help03:54
cruzbullitcan anyone guide me through the setup process of tvtime?03:54
zdennisMarcN, last year I got my brother and girlfriend to use OpenOffice, and now my family, and my brothe'rs girlfriend's family and friends call me on where to download OO03:54
zdennisOO is sweet03:54
malvo1Yea, whenever I meet people I try to switch them over03:54
zdennisand i haven't pusehd it on anyone!03:54
malvo1It's like an experiment to see how well they can make due, and entertaining to watch03:54
Madpilotrendi: libgtk-1.2 is in repos, at least for me03:54
lopingoi cant suft the net with firefox but i can chat here03:54
lopingosurf*03:54
malvo1zealotry is fun =)03:55
rendinot03:55
rendii still can find that packet03:55
rendiE: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.203:56
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-85-31.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
IcemanV9rendi: did you add repos??03:56
elviroloplease, could anyone tell me how to make my kde menu behave properly ?03:56
Madpilotrendi: leave the dash out. "libgtk1.203:56
Madpilot"03:56
MarcNzdennis: even my manager can use OOo, which is nice.03:56
rendii'm follow on ubuntuguide.org03:56
=== OddAbe19 [n=OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilot!ubuntuguide03:56
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.03:56
Naliothrendi: be careful with that03:56
OddAbe19i keep getting kicked to ubuntu-unregged... why03:56
elviroloOddAbe19: cause y're not registered03:57
OddAbe19don't tell me that03:57
OddAbe19i know i am03:57
OddAbe19i have no problem on any other channel03:57
malvo1did you identify yourself?03:57
elvirolowell identify then :)03:57
OddAbe19yes03:57
MadpilotOddAbe19: Freenode has been having trouble with spambots03:57
OddAbe19automagically03:57
malvo1odd03:57
elvirolo /msg nickserv password03:57
OddAbe19-NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized03:57
OddAbe19* services. sets mode +e OddAbe1903:57
OddAbe19like i said03:57
rendiMadpilot what u mean with dash out ??03:58
OddAbe19i automatically identify03:58
NaliothOddAbe19 is IDd03:58
elvirolocan anyone *please* tell me why i seem to be the only perosn whose kde menu is lacking entries ?03:58
rendi sudo apt-get install "libgtk-1.2 <= like this ?03:58
Madpilotrendi: the filename doesn't have a dash in it. it's "libgtk1.2"03:58
Naliothrendi: use synaptic. it's easier03:58
zdenniselvirolo, i dont use kde, so perhaps that is why mine is empty03:58
malvo1!gnome03:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.03:58
malvo1!kde03:59
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/03:59
elvirolowell,i happen to use KDE, and to prefer it over to gnome03:59
malvo1hmmm, I was expecting more slander03:59
elvirolo(although i do like gnome as well)03:59
Demon_strokesays, "cannot make directory file or directory does not exist03:59
rendii'm still can't find libgtk-1.2 on sypnatic03:59
aruOddAbe19: mine registers when I connect, but nickserv is slow at recognizing me, so it throws me in unregged first03:59
Madpilotrendi: it is NOT called "libgtk-1.2", there is NO DASH in the filename!04:00
Madpilotthis is only the 3rd time I've explained this to you, pardon me for sounding peeved...04:00
rendiyes04:00
rendistill can't04:00
Madpilotrendi: search Synaptic for "libgtk"04:01
Madpilotrendi: you will find a file called "libgtk1.2" - with NO DASH in the filename...04:01
=== overture [n=ceo@hh-2-211.flexabit.net] has joined #ubuntu
overturecould anyone help me troubleshoot a problem with my box?04:02
=== mauper [n=mauper@dsl-213-023-223-220.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothoverture: if we knew what it was04:02
rendisee this04:03
rendithis thread need correct04:03
rendinot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999604:03
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.85.245] has joined #ubuntu
overturevarious applications (i.e. firefox) crash very very often, X locks up somewhat often, and the system completly hangs (cant ssh in remotely, etc) often as well04:04
rendilibgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common but libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common04:04
atpwbmadpilot, I was away; man grep was not helpful however this was very helpful: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html04:04
=== atpwb [n=nick@cpe-69-204-253-46.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-85-31.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
overtureive run memtest86 on for well over an hour (many passes of each test)04:04
h17m4nhey all04:04
overturewith no problems04:04
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injkcg.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilotrendi: posting a correction on that thread would probably be appreciated - the forums are easy to sign up to04:05
h17m4ndoes anyone know if this works for the amd64 distro: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&04:05
rendiok04:05
zdennisoverture, do you have access to additional memory you could swap out temporarily to see if system freezes still happen?04:05
overtureany my cpu doesnt seem to have heat problems (lots of testing under real full loads, and stress tests like prime95's torture tests)04:05
skajai tryed every thing to get my modem to work with ubuntu nothing seems to work04:06
overturezdennis, unfortunately not04:06
mauperskaja: what kind of modem is that ?04:06
=== kevogod [n=kevogod@68-115-7-181.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
skajahardware modem04:06
mauperusb, serial, pcicard ... ?04:07
skajaits an actiontec pci04:07
h17m4nhardware modems are easier to set up on windoze... I dont no about linux tho(I'm a noob)04:07
mauperskaja: yuck ;) - that might be a problem04:07
h17m4nsoft modems = pain04:07
=== theeil [n=neil@HSE-Quebec-City-ppp129871.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
skajait supports linux04:08
theeilwhat repository do i need for limewire?04:08
overturetheeil, its easy enough just to download their .bin, isnt it?04:08
arutheeil: I believe it's multiverse04:08
theeilah ok thanks04:08
kevogodhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire04:09
=== Dr_Willis [i=willis@12-222-84-112.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
Nalioththeeil: you can use gtk-gnutella. it does the same thing w/o the java bloat04:09
kevogod(SORRY for linking to Ubuntu guide)04:09
Naliothkevogod: please04:09
overturelol04:09
IcemanV9kevogod: don't be sorry, ubotu said it as well04:09
Dr_Willis:)04:09
mauperskaja: what does "cat /proc/pci" tell ?04:09
h17m4nsetting up limewire isnt as hard as setting up ndiswrapper+broadcom is it?04:09
kevogodProbably not04:10
skajai cant get that to work04:10
overturerofl, not at all04:10
h17m4nthat took me almost 2 days to get done :-(04:10
=== vader1102 [n=vader110@72.1.217.91] has joined #ubuntu
kevogodWhere does LimeWire.jar come from when trying to build LimeWire?04:10
Dr_Willislimewier shold be fairly easy. last i used it however.. it required the official sun java.04:10
overturelimewire with their binary is basically the same as when installing under windows04:10
overture[assuming you have java installed] 04:11
skajai type that mommand and nothing shows up04:11
=== DonL [n=don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegokevogod: limewire.jar would be the equivalent to the closed source .exe04:11
h17m4nand would it work with a sun alternative?04:11
kevogodSo is there no way to reproduce this on one's own? I can create core.jar.04:11
mauperskaja: that doesn't sound too promising ... I think it should at least show up there ...04:11
theeilit comes as a .zip with a windoze binary (.exe) and a sh script to launch it04:12
=== token_ [n=qwertyui@201-24-207-43.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegoh17m4n: probably with blackdown (which is sun) but not with the gcc one04:12
kevogodbut I do not see anywhere about LimeWire.jar04:12
Dr_Willis. last i used it,.. it required the official sun java.04:12
mik3how do i decompress a bz2 file?04:12
cafuegokevogod: *shrug* 3rd party closed source, we can't help.04:12
token_anyone having "connection refused (111)" on the ubuntu torrent trackers?04:12
Naliothcafuego: not ibm java?04:12
cafuegomik3: bunzip204:12
skajamy modem shows up in the divice man.04:12
mik3thanks04:12
cafuegoNalioth: Maybe; i've had many segfaults with it.04:12
aruif you install from the repositories, I doubt you have to worry about anything :)04:12
token_trying to DL the powerpc dvd and cannot connect to trackers04:12
Naliothcafuego: hmmm works fine for me (the .001% of the time i actually use it)04:13
rendi!wine04:13
cafuegoNalioth: I need it for a (one) app, which it doesn't work with.04:13
=== zdennis is now known as zdennis|away
mauperskaja: then it should show up in ... "cat /proc/bus/pci/devices"04:16
=== hondje [n=hondje@c-67-164-224-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
skajai have not tryed that yet04:16
=== _RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
DonLAnyone here use Enlightenment?04:17
=== _RedGhost is now known as RedGhost
theeilis it OK to delete /usr/X11r6/lib/libGL.a as WineCVS.sh tells me to do?04:18
Dr_Willistheeil,  could just rename it.04:18
cafuego!find /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a04:18
RedGhostwhere would i be able to edit the Applications menu, there is multiple entries for the same program but only one install and i would like to remove one04:18
=== MarcN [n=marc@dsl.wildcat.mv.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== Pickle_Weasel [i=w00f@AC90EB27.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothRedGhost: kde or gnome?04:19
RedGhostgnome04:19
skajabrb04:19
cafuego!test04:19
ubotuWorking....04:19
=== wirwzd_ [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Pickle_Weaselif at the time of my install i didn't have a net connection, how would i run the network configuration tool now that i DO have a connection?04:19
Nalioth!tell RedGhost about smeg04:19
vader1102!botsnack04:20
ubotuthanks vader1102 :)04:20
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a' returned no results.04:20
RedGhostlol... smegma?04:20
RedGhost:s04:20
RedGhostoh04:20
RedGhostok thanks again mate :D04:20
cafuegothat;'s pretty special04:20
mauperpickle_weasel: system->administration->networking ?04:20
Pickle_Weaselty04:21
Pickle_Weasel=)04:21
=== trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #ubuntu
cafuegowhat to do, what do do..04:22
cafuegoaha!04:22
Naliothcafuego: when are you gonna build ubotu a nice house?04:22
=== snoop_ [n=snoopy@pcp05840088pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== DonL [n=don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== snoop_ [n=snoopy@pcp05840088pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
rendiguy's M$ VB can run in wine very well without error ?04:23
hybrid_gothwtfh04:24
hybrid_gothrendi: why do you want VB04:24
h17m4nthis is for firefox: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.504:24
h17m4njava -version04:24
h17m4nwill it work with limewire?04:24
rendihybrid_goth just tes my ubuntu working very well with wine or not04:25
hybrid_gothrendi: vb is not the way to go04:25
rendidirect x can be ?04:25
hybrid_gothrendi: try putty or something04:25
hybrid_gothrendi: yes direct x does and so does WGA04:25
=== gdub [n=Miranda@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Tzi [n=mike@60-240-230-198-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
mauperbtw: is the delphi5 debugger working now in wine ?04:27
TziHi =)04:27
TziJust wondering.. Is Breezy okay to dist-upgrade currently?04:27
=== dereks [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziI heard X was misbehaving04:27
hybrid_gothTzi: i wouldnt04:27
TziStill in a bad way? =)04:28
hybrid_gothTzi: X is fixed but there is still issues04:28
hybrid_gothTzi: ya never know what will happen04:28
TziWhat kind of issues?04:28
TziHehe.. Where's your sense of adventure? :P04:28
=== Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziI'm already running it, but haven't upgraded for about 2 weeks now04:29
pdlnhrdTzi: i started the dist-upgrade about ten minutes ago... i can let you know in a couple of hours04:29
hybrid_gothTzi: it is not much atm04:29
hybrid_gothbut ya never know04:29
TziOkay, great =)04:29
=== Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-233-7-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
TziYeah.. I guess not..04:29
hybrid_goththats my only draw back04:30
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injk8r.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
skajaok i'm back i did cat /proc/bus/pci/devices and it gave me a bunch of 00000004:32
=== alex___ [n=alex@i-83-67-16-154.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu
Carpe_LibertatemDiesem Saftsack hat werde ich die Fresse polieren!04:32
alex___morning all04:33
TziJuice sack? =)04:34
=== adiabatic [n=comatoas@dsl-206-55-130-248.tstonramp.com] has joined #ubuntu
TziMorning =)04:34
skajai have other modems i could use04:34
alex___bit of a weird, question, i know its not precisely OT, but was wondering and it's a difficult one to google for (at this time anyway...)...04:35
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's the best burning app available for Lin?04:35
TziCarpe_Libertatem: K3b by a long shot =)04:36
Kamping_Kaisertry Gnome-baker in Ubuntu04:36
TziGnome-baker doesn't do overburning though, does it?04:36
TziI think it's on the cards though..04:36
malvo1if your just doing data cds, nautilus works well04:36
alex___are there any efforts to devel a task-based linux distribution? by this i mean one where all user applications are completey abstraced from the file system04:36
Kamping_KaiserTzi: don't know04:36
TziBit slow though, cos it insists on making an image first04:36
malvo1true04:36
malvo1btw, is there any way to have it work on the fly?04:37
h17m4nis anyone using java on a amd64 distro?04:37
TziI don't think so, malvo1.. At least not yet04:37
alex___ie - you have 'email' and 'music' and 'images' all with shitloads of metadata presented in a format the applications understand04:37
skajawhat verson of debian use for ubuntu 5.0404:37
kevogodIf I use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will my computer die?04:38
Kamping_Kaiserskaja: Sarge04:38
Tzialex___: I think I've heard such a concept being thrown around - Not sure if it's being explored yet04:38
Kamping_Kaiserkevogod: depends what you dist-upgrade to04:38
malvo1kevogod: didn't for me04:38
kevogodKamping_Kaiser, Windows XP SP204:38
alex___Tzi, methingks it would be fucking difficult, but fucking sweet04:38
pdlnhrdh17m4n:  does gentoo count? cause i run it fine there on my workstation at work  sun's  java works great on it04:38
=== tomchuk [n=ubuntu@cpe-69-201-141-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
kevogodj/k04:39
Kamping_Kaiser>.<04:39
Kamping_Kaiserdon't think that would work ;)04:39
Tzialex___: Certainly a big shift..04:39
tomchukAny liveCD gurus around?04:39
skajaok i want here http://start.at/modem my modem has a chip next to it04:39
h17m4nwas it default or you had to install it?04:40
aruis there any music store applications like itunes for linux?04:40
pdlnhrdh17m4n:  i had to install it, pretty sure it is due to licensing issues04:40
=== token_ [n=qwertyui@201-24-207-43.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Kamping_Kaiserkevogod: dist-upgrade is the recomended way of doing an upgrade04:41
cafuegoaru: to buy misuc? nah04:41
=== juanej [n=juanej@cable200-116-218-88.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu
alex___aru, dvd jon made an apple itunes client04:41
aruyeah, to buy music04:41
juanejanyone using quod libet?04:41
alex___the only non-apple one, havn't looked into it but apparently you can buy music and it gives it you all non drm'd :)04:41
alex___dunno if its linux, but would be v surprised it it weren't04:42
h17m4ncool... I'm looking at it right now... I'm browsing thru ubuntuforums... so ubuntu can't ship with it, but can you as a user install it?04:42
skajahow come this cat /proc/pci does not work in ubuntu04:42
alex___h17m4n,  depends on whether or not someone's stuck it in a repository you have added, heh04:42
h17m4nheh... what if I dl the bin and set it up?04:44
alex___but no, ubuntu couldn't ship with it unless they make a client that's all licensed and certified by apple.. but i don't know if that's possible, and due to the costs involved they certainly couldn't include it in a free distribution04:44
h17m4nit's on their site... so it has to be legal04:44
=== regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.107.114.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
skajai get cat /proc/pci to work under debian04:45
=== transparentdream [n=transpar@c-67-176-67-90.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
juanejhow do i use a quodlibet .py plugin???04:45
alex___h17m4n, what's on whose site?04:45
TziSun's04:46
TziYeah there are a few howtos that describe how to install lit..04:46
mik3note to self: wild turkey and wine do not mix.04:46
h17m4nthis: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp04:46
TziThere's a good one on ubuntuforums.org04:46
Madpilotmik3: just don't puke on the keyboard, OK? ;)04:46
h17m4ngood thing they have the amd64 version04:46
h17m4nyeah04:46
transparentdreamhow do I get quake2 to work?04:47
Tzitransparentdream: apt-get install quake2, then copy the game files into /usr/share/games/quake2/somethingsomething..04:47
mik3Madpilot : that shouldn't be a problem until after this bottle is done04:47
h17m4nI'm following the last one on this first page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5922904:47
transparentdreamWell I installes it using synaptic04:47
transparentdreamand i can't find it04:47
h17m4nI wish macromedia was nice enough to make an amd64 version of flashplayer04:48
Tzitransparentdream: What can't you find? /usr/share/quake2?04:48
transparentdreamI can;t find how to run it...04:48
TziHave you tried 'quake2'? :P04:48
Dr_Willisyou need the data files from the comercial quake2 I think. dont ya?04:49
bob2hint: /usr/games/04:49
dereksis there a way to have apt clean up config files of a set of packages (ie if i wanted to have it use default config files for pkgx pkgy and pkgz, is there a way to do that)?04:49
TziYep, you do04:49
bob2dereks: sure, man apt-get; hint: --purge04:49
bob2or use aptitude04:49
transparentdreamWell, using synaptic I installed the quake 2 game and the data files it said04:49
TziI usually just apt-get install --reinstall...04:49
dereksbob2: thanks04:49
Tzitransparentdream: The game data is commercial, so you have to copy that in yourself..04:50
TziSee /usr/share/doc/quake2*/README04:50
transparentdreamoh...04:50
transparentdreamhow do i do that?04:50
bob2Tzi: that does not touch config files at all04:50
alex___transparentdream, you're running ubuntu yeah?04:50
bob2it doesn't even restore config files that you "accidentally" delete04:50
Tzibob2: Oh =) My mistake, hehe04:50
transparentdreamyes04:50
TziIt doesn't?04:50
Madpilottransparentdream: the only thing they've open-sourced is the engine, not the artwork & stuff04:50
alex___transparentdream, SYNAPTIC04:50
skajai dont know what to do now04:50
transparentdreamI have04:50
h17m4nwhen I first saw it in synaptic I thought the game was in there for free04:50
transparentdreamYEah04:50
Dr_Willis:)04:50
alex___transparentdream, have you applied the extra repositories as per ubuntu guide (or whatever its called, the unofficial thing)?04:51
transparentdreamyes i have04:51
Dr_Willischeck out that first person shooter "cube" its kinda nifty04:51
alex___the documentation for the packages is actually quite good04:51
bob2you can get the shareware data for free04:51
bob2as in beer-money04:51
TziDr_Willis: Is that in Ubuntu?04:51
alex___yeah, i'm doing taht now04:51
mik3HI BOB! =D04:51
bob2hi04:51
alex___have the CD but my CD drives are nackered :/04:51
bob2I should never have had "bob" in my nick04:52
alex___just interested to play a level for old times sake04:52
juanejhow do i use a quodlibet .py plugin???04:52
alex___and to see if it runs at a decent speed on ubuntu04:52
mik3bob is a great name, i sometimes tell people my name is Bob Bobertson04:52
skajais there a download to make my modem work04:52
bob2juanej: it has no documentation?  or user mailing list? or irc channel?04:53
mik3skaja : what kind of modem?04:53
overturemik3, change your lastname to just bob04:53
bob2skaja: is it an actual modem, or an internal winmodem?04:53
sproingiemik3: i work with a guy named brad bradley04:53
juanejbob2, i already read the documentation04:53
h17m4nis the ATI driver installed by ubuntu decent or is it needed to follow another one of those 5 page howtos?04:53
juaneji dont find a channel04:53
skajaits a hardware modem actionteck pci callwaiting modem04:53
mik3hmmm04:53
bob2h17m4n: unless you have a very good reason, just follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:53
=== Cidolfas [n=null@adsl-67-118-13-51.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziHehe... Bob.. Awesome04:53
juaneji put the py file in quodlibet/plugins but it doesnt seem to work04:53
bob2pci modems are rarely hardware modems04:53
mik3skaja : take the modem out, what do the chips say04:54
mik3bob2 : indeed04:54
bob2skaja: why are you so sure it's a hardware modem?04:54
dereksbob2: --purge allows the package and configs to be removed, i would then have to reinstall the packages/04:54
bob2yes04:54
skajaLucent Venus chipset04:54
mik3haha04:54
bob2if it's something critical, 'sudo dpkg -P --force-depends blah ; sudo apt-get install blah' can be handy04:54
bob2lucent = winmodem04:54
mik3lucent == winmodem04:54
mik3haha04:55
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
mik3<3 bob04:55
skajahttp://start.at/modem04:55
mik3skaja : download a program called ltmodem04:55
dereksbob2: i was considering doing it to gdm/gnome :)04:55
skajamy is hardware04:55
mik3no04:55
bob2gnome has no usefu lconfig files to remove04:55
mik3it's winmodem04:55
bob2gdm might be usefully purged and reinstalled, if you edited them and broke them04:55
dereksbob2: but aren't there global configs?04:55
mik3anything with lucent = winmodem, if you wish to oppose our skills, then have fun trying to get your 'hardware modem' to work04:55
bob2dereks: for what?04:56
bob2skaja: that website does not appear to be accessible04:56
=== wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dereksbob2: gnome04:56
mik3skaja : i am on a winmodem dialing to aol on linux, you would think i know this04:56
skajahttp://linmodems.org/04:56
bob2dereks: gnome consists of about 5 000 000 little programs04:56
derekshaha04:57
=== aeruder [i=muncher@ip68-102-201-46.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
mik3yes that site will suffice, ltmodem = what you want04:57
bob2dereks: if your problem is that gnome does weird things as your user, reinstalling it is absolutely not going to help04:57
=== No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu
dereksbob2: when I go to apt-get --purge remove gdm, it takes gnome with it04:57
bob2yes04:57
bob212:54:54           bob2 | if it's something critical, 'sudo dpkg -P --force-depends blah ; sudo apt-get install blah' can be handy04:57
=== mattyJ [n=X@oh-clevelandheights-cdnt1-bg2c-224.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
dereksbob2:   oh, gotcha04:58
=== wulfy814 [n=lorentz@dsl093-061-214.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
wulfy814anyone install on a Dell PE700?04:58
wulfy814it's blowing up on me during the install04:58
wulfy814unable to load modules from cd04:58
skajahere is a link to my modem http://actiontec.com/support/modems/cwi.html04:58
bob2wulfy814: is the CD sorted?04:58
=== Agrajag [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
Tziwulfy814: I had that issue ones =) CD was busted04:59
wulfy814bob2: Tzi: cd is known good04:59
thrushwulfy814, can you do a server install?04:59
wulfy814let me get the specific error04:59
wulfy814thrush: that's what I'm attempting :-)05:00
wulfy814SATA drives05:00
mik3skaja : dude, download a program called ltmodem, you have a win modem, you need to use ltmodem, download it, thanks, buh-bye.05:00
mik3holy crap bob, good thing we're getting paid for this.05:00
mik3oh, wait..05:00
skajai download the debian verson of ltmodem right05:01
mik3yeah?05:01
mik3and?05:01
juanejPlugins dont work with my quodlibet!!! where they have to go?05:02
skajaok how do  install it05:02
thrushskaja, what is the full filename?05:02
skajaltmodem-2.6.8-2-386_8.31a11_i386.deb05:03
wulfy814thrush: bob2: Tzi: ok specific error: "Load installer components from CD - Installation step failed"05:03
=== finn [i=jani@ppp80-14.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
mik3skaja : what does dpkg -i ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386_8.31a11_i386.deb do?05:04
Paradoxxwhat rss readers do you all use?05:04
Paradoxxor recommend05:04
cyphasehow do you kill beagled gracefully?05:04
skajadont know not on linux05:04
mik3...05:04
cyphaseParadoxx, Liferea is good05:04
mik3get on linux and try it?05:05
cyphaseso is Blam, but i prefer Liferea05:05
=== skaja wips out the 3'5 inch floppy
bob2I use planet to read rss05:06
=== finn is now known as finn_
Paradoxxis it on apt-get?05:06
Paradoxxcause i couldn't get it05:06
skajaoh brb05:06
bob2liferea is05:06
bob2planet is not05:06
=== finn_ is now known as finn
=== finn is now known as finn_
Paradoxxgettin it now, i'll try it out?05:08
Paradoxxwhat is so special about either of them?05:08
=== misterdiff [n=ruben@101.202.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
bob2I like planet because I can use it from anywhere05:08
=== finn_ is now known as finn
misterdiffhi all05:08
wulfy814no ideas on my "Load installer components from CD" problem?05:09
=== jiggafellz [n=jiggafel@c-24-2-39-108.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
bob2and it means one less dodgy C# or python gtk program running05:09
bob2wulfy814: if you're really sure the cd is fine, file a bug I guess05:09
Paradoxxwhat you mean you can use it anywhere??05:09
zdennis|away'top' is only showing me half of the system memory i have installed...05:09
Paradoxxaswell as the commen about the python/gtk thing05:10
misterdiffi'm having problems playing mp3 files with rhythmbox. i've got a pretty big collection of mp3s and xmms just will not due for playing my jukebox. everytime i try to import something to rhythmbox it says it has no plugin for mp305:10
zdennis|awayany ideas why that would be?05:10
misterdiffanyone know a fix for this?05:10
bob2Paradoxx: planet is what runs planet.debian.org, etc05:10
bob2Paradoxx: it aggregates rss feeds int oa webpage05:10
bob2zdennis|away: and the amount of ram you think you have is...05:10
zdennis|awaymisterdiff, i dont use rhythmbox, but is there an option to view the plugins?05:10
zdennis|awaybob2, I have 1.5Gb05:11
aeruderzdennis|away: do a 'free'05:11
zdennis|awayit shows 90005:11
bob2misterdiff: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:11
zdennis|awayMb05:11
bob2zdennis|away: it shows 896MB05:11
bob2zdennis|away: what CPU?05:11
Demon_strokehey guyz, how do i create a second partition on Linux, so i can dual boot 2 o's?05:11
zdennis|awayAMD Athlon XP 180005:11
misterdiffzdennis|away, not that i see. what do you use for mp3 organization?05:11
bob2Demon_stroke: same as you would in any other OS05:11
bob2zdennis|away: sudo aptitude install linux-k7, reboot05:11
Demon_strokeim a linux moron and cant figure out how to partition05:11
bob2zdennis|away: the default -386 kernel does no support HIGHMEM, which means ram is cut off at 896MB05:11
=== a_monkey [n=elmunky@user-0can33s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== pdlnhrd [n=jason@southcity-24.107.191.198.charter-stl.com] has left #ubuntu []
bob2Demon_stroke: you have unallocated space on the disk?05:11
zdennis|awayah05:12
zdennis|awaythanks bob205:12
zdennis|awayyou are a life saver =)05:12
Demon_strokebout 9 gigs i think05:12
zdennis|awayi almost couldn't open my 35th app05:12
=== dereks [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== dereks [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Georgiepoo [n=xip@cyprus-48.iusb.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== cruzbullit [n=dylan@ppp-70-226-129-202.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu []
Demon_strokeso how do i make it so i can dual boot05:14
zdennis|awayu edit your bootloader configuration file05:14
h17m4nhow to I delete this file: /usr/local/bin/java05:14
zdennis|away/boot/grub/menu.list05:14
h17m4nis it just del like windoze?05:14
zdennis|awayh17m4n, sudo rm /usr/local/bin/java05:15
h17m4nthx05:15
Demon_strokei need to make a partition and i also dunno wut i need to do to the boot loader thingy05:15
zdennis|awayit would be "rm /usr/local/bin/java" but it is probably owned by root. so that is why you need to sudo05:15
zdennis|awaydo you have windows installed, or are you installing windows?05:15
Pickle_Weaselhow do i make the panel flash when i get a message in Gaim? =\05:16
Demon_strokei want to install windows05:16
Pickle_Weaseli've asked this before, and didn't write it down like a moron05:16
=== xXKobaXx [n=Koba@S0106001195739c23.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== xXKobaXx [n=Koba@S0106001195739c23.ok.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
aeruderPickle_Weasel: look at the plugins in the preferences05:17
aeruderi'm sure you'll find something in there if nowhere else05:17
zdennis|awayDemon_stroke, you will want to write down the location of your /boot partition before you install05:17
Pickle_Weaselno, it's not that, it was somewhere on the forums05:17
zdennis|awayBecause windows will overwrite your Grub boot loader,05:17
Pickle_Weaselsome complicated nonsense05:17
zdennis|awayand you'll have to fix it later05:17
Demon_strokeok05:17
Demon_strokeso first off05:17
Demon_strokehow do i partition in linux05:18
zdennis|awayPickle_weasel, Preferences > Plugins > Message Notification05:18
thrushDemon_stroke, sudo cfdisk /dev/hda or b or .. but you can create the partition during the windows install05:18
=== kcidx [n=kcidx@c-67-160-21-144.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
zdennis|awayDemon_stroke, i use fdisk,  so "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"05:18
kcidxAnyone using breezy with the fglrx driver?05:19
zdennis|awaywould typically work on a normal system05:19
Pickle_Weasel=\05:19
Demon_strokewell if i can create a partition during windows install,05:19
Pickle_Weaselthat gives me a sound05:19
Pickle_Weaselbut no flashing05:19
NaliothDemon_stroke: you keepin linux?05:19
=== marx_ [n=marx@200.209.167.99] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokeyeh im keepin it, i cant play my porn so im gonne learn to dual boot win98 SE, gotta play my vids lol05:19
=== EE|Bullz [n=EE_Bullz@ool-45776e74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothDemon_stroke: they tell you about qtparted?05:20
AgrajagDemon_stroke: uh, install VLC?05:20
Naliothporn plays fine in linux05:20
zdennis|awayPickle_weasel send me an IM....aim name: sapenchant05:20
Demon_strokeok so i can partition during windows install, ok how about, the dual booting,05:20
Naliothdvdjon keeps gifting us with new codecs05:20
zdennis|awayDemon_stroke, if you have unused hard drive space05:21
Demon_strokemy codecs wont install on linux because its being a bitch right now05:21
=== rob_p [n=rob@cust-ipadvanced-dynnat-232130.d-star-eutelsat.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
EE|BullzI have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them?05:21
zdennis|awayyou can create it05:21
=== Cody` [n=cody@ddsl-216-68-134-98.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu
Cody`does anyone know how I add an fstab entry to automatically mount a floppy image on  bootup on a loopback device?05:21
NaliothDemon_stroke: if you don't want to reinstall linux, ask about qtparted05:21
Demon_strokeok im asking about Qtparted, wdf is that?05:21
NaliothDemon_stroke: qtparted will allow you to shrink your linux partition so you have free space for the Other05:22
NaliothDemon_stroke: it will do it w/o destroying your stuff05:22
ParadoxxPickle_Weasel: did you figure how to do it?05:22
Demon_strokehow do i perform this,05:22
Pickle_Weaselnay05:23
zdennis|awayPickle_Weasel, send me another iM05:23
=== zakame [n=zakame@210.213.80.187] has joined #ubuntu
zakameei!05:23
EE|BullzI have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them?05:23
zakamehow do I burn an audio cd in ubuntu?05:23
Naliothzakame: use k3b05:24
EE|Bullz>,<05:24
NaliothDemon_stroke: you need to apt-get qtparted05:24
NaliothDemon_stroke: then it's easy (it works very much like partition magic)05:24
zakameNalioth, is that in universe?05:24
ParadoxxPickle_Weasel: if you figure out how to do it, can you tell me also please05:25
Pickle_Weaselwill do05:25
derekscan someone look in there .dmrc file, and tell me what it should have05:25
EE|Bullzdoes anyone know whats wrong with my problem?05:25
EE|Bullzor should i just install another core05:25
Cody`does anyone know how I add an fstab entry to automatically mount a floppy image on  bootup on a loopback device?05:26
Nalioth!info k3b05:26
ubotuk3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB05:26
marx_hello.. how can i read an usb flash drive on ubuntu?05:26
=== skaja_ [i=user@user-2injk03.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokehey nailoth, if i download anothermedia player for linux, and then install that, will my codecs work05:26
EE|Bullzhas a problem05:27
skaja_well i tryed to un pack the file but that did not work05:27
NaliothDemon_stroke: no05:27
Demon_strokeso ur saying theres like no hope for my codecs playing05:27
NaliothDemon_stroke: vlc plays most everything by default, but will not allow your other programs play those files05:27
=== skpl [i=skalpel@adsl-69-153-202-207.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothDemon_stroke: yes, you just need to get them into that folder05:28
skplcan someone tell me how to change the preferred player for movies on my computer?05:28
Naliothskpl: system > prefs > preferred apps05:28
Demon_strokecant i make myself a supa user, then just copy and paste05:28
Pickle_WeaselParadoxx05:28
Pickle_Weaselhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39776&page=305:28
skplNalioth: there is no section for multimedia players05:29
skaja_linux never works right for me05:29
Demon_strokevlc looks ok05:29
Demon_strokewhy dont i just get that05:29
=== rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu
skaja_right click on the media file and add a new app05:29
Naliothskpl: right click on your file in nautilus and change the properties that way05:30
mik3skaja whats the problem05:30
Demon_strokehey which vlc do i download, i see suse, red hat, no ubuntu though05:30
skaja_it keeps giving me cant unpack error05:30
misterdiffany of you guys using oo2? if so, do you have the spell checker, dictionaries, or any of the addons working?05:30
NaliothDemon_stroke: use synaptic05:30
zakamewtf? 'tis k3b not in the hoary cd?05:30
skaja_non of them debian05:31
NaliothDemon_stroke: 99% of what you want is available using synaptic05:31
=== z|bandito [n=julia@cpe-66-8-155-153.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothzakame: k3b is a kde app05:31
=== zoexii [n=zoe@dsl-206-180.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
zakameheh05:31
=== skaja_ is now known as Skaja
MadpilotDemon_stroke: what codecs are you using that you can't find in Synaptic?05:31
zoexiihello, is there a channel for wine?  what is it called?05:31
zdennis|awayPickle_Weasel, send me another IM can you05:31
Demon_strokeshould i just dl the mandrake one?05:31
Naliothzoexii: try #wine05:31
zdennis|awayso i can test it05:31
Madpilotzakame: k3b is in the repos though, and it works in Ubuntu05:32
NaliothDemon_stroke: vlc is in the repos05:32
Nalioth!tell Demon_stroke about sources05:32
Demon_strokemadpilot:the essential codec pack05:32
zoexiiNalioth: yeah, there's only one other dude in there, and he isn't talking05:32
Skajais there a diffrent way to install li moedmes05:32
=== zdennis|away is now known as zdennis
MadpilotDemon_stroke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <-- what you need isn't mentioned here?05:33
Demon_strokemadpilot i wen through all that but i cannot install the codecs that i downloaded, ive tried lotsa stuff05:33
z|banditohello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)05:33
MadpilotDemon_stroke: if you install the codecs mentioned on that page via Synaptic or apt-get, they'll auto-install when you select them...05:34
Skajamik3 is there a diffrent way to um pack and install it05:35
Demon_strokethey dont show in snaptic and apt-get i dont think ive tried05:35
thrushDemon_stroke, have you edited your sources.list file yet?05:35
mik3Skaja : im sorry i'm relatively drunk, did you do dpkg -i filename.deb?05:35
Demon_strokesources.list? why do i have to edit that05:35
thrushDemon_stroke, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list just uncomment all the entries05:36
NaliothDemon_stroke: if you read all the things that are sent to you, you'd be watching pR0n already05:36
MadpilotDemon_stroke: follow that RestrictedFormats page carefully. you have to add new repos to your list...05:36
=== Tzi [n=mike@60-240-230-198-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
mik3session05:36
mik3Skaja : im sorry i'm relatively drunk, did you do dpkg -i filename.deb?05:36
Skajayes05:37
EE|BullzI have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them? i really need someone to answer this for a file i have to print05:37
=== Virtuall is now known as Virtuall[BZA]
=== dreamie [n=sunnyflo@adsl-10-222-141.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
z|banditopassworded or you do not have access privilidges, EE|Bullz ?05:37
=== KillerKiwi2005 [n=jason@203-173-188-104.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
EE|Bullzit says05:38
Pickle_Weaselcan someone tell me what the repository i need to add for packages.ubuntu.com is?05:38
=== arbir [n=chatzill@S01060011953d8506.fm.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
EE|Bullzi do not have the privilidges05:38
Madpilot!tell Pickle_Weasel about repos05:38
=== LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-206-163.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
KillerKiwi2005Is Klick going to be in breezy?05:39
Skaja!tell skaja about dpkg05:39
z|banditook, open a terminal window05:39
EE|Bullzok05:39
EE|Bullzlet me go onit05:39
EE|Bullzone sec05:40
Skajamik3  'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'05:40
mik3Skaja : i have gotten ltmodem to work on multiple systems, from FreeBSD, Solaris, Linux distros, you need to find some documentation and try to make it work, or go buy a modem that doesn't have a lucent chipset05:40
=== Dr_Willis [i=willis@12-222-84-112.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
mik3Skaja : does that work?05:40
z|banditoit\s in applications- system tools05:40
=== zoexii [n=zoe@dsl-206-180.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
z|banditothen you have to know your own password to get root privs05:40
mik3Skaja : does that work?05:41
z|banditotype sudo chown FILENAME YOUR-USERNAME05:41
Skajawill find out soon05:41
Demon_strokeok guyz the codec thingy hoary ectras doesnt work because my linux isnt running windows on it05:41
z|banditothen enter your password, and it should change it to you owning it.. if you can't open it at that point, do sudo chmod 644 FILENAME05:41
EE|Bullzone sec z band05:41
Kamping_Kaiserchown username.group filename05:41
z|banditoi think that should work05:41
z|banditook05:41
MadpilotDemon_stroke: huh? that made very little sense...05:41
z|banditoKamping_Kaiser has it correct i think :)05:42
Kamping_Kaiser:)05:42
Kamping_Kaisertrust me this once05:42
z|banditolol05:42
=== bullz [n=bullz@ool-45776e74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
z|banditoyou have to specify a group?05:42
=== aeruder_ [i=muncher@ip68-102-201-46.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Demon_strokethe line in the restricted formats area (http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted) wont work cuz i dont have internet in there05:42
bullzz|band im on my other comp now05:42
=== [DF2] [i=DF2@220-245-79-98-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Kamping_Kaiserit's optional05:42
Kamping_Kaiserbut i always do05:42
z|banditoi see :)05:42
bullzhow do i handle this?05:43
MadpilotDemon_stroke: how did you get the other packages you've been trying without internet to your Ubuntu computer?05:43
LaserJockhi all! does anybody know how to change the color of the font on the desktop icons in gnome?05:43
=== auk is now known as Furic
Kamping_Kaiserwhen you have a multi user system getting grouips wrong is a pita :)05:43
Demon_strokedownloaded them using my xp then burned them to a disk05:43
=== Furic is now known as auk
=== vinux [n=vinux@pcp0010359420pcs.hcksrd01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
MadpilotDemon_stroke: how about getting net connection working on your Ubuntu box first? it'll be much, much easier to do the rest of this after that...05:44
=== Cody` [n=cody@ddsl-216-68-134-98.fuse.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Demon_strokeits not possible to just download them here then use synaptic, cuz that comp is all the way in my room, and moving it out here would be a bitch05:45
zoexiihey, the winehq channel is dead, maybe someone here knows something.  I am trying to install DvdDecrypter and get an error: "Error writing to Temporary file.  Make sure your temp folder is valid."  How can I fix?05:45
NaliothDemon_stroke: 100m of cat5 runs about $2005:45
derekscan anyone tell me if this is important (from my .xsession-errors)                     (gnome-panel:6312): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/panel/toplevels/bottom_panel_screen1/screen' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x810c97005:45
MadpilotDemon_stroke: Synaptic depends on online repositories to work...05:46
thrushDemon_stroke, you could always google for ubuntuaddon.zip contains a script and packages for common things05:46
Kamping_KaiserMadpilot: not as such05:46
Kamping_Kaiserjust it's a lot easyer05:46
Demon_strokei dont know wut that is nalioth05:46
=== ducky [n=oconnor@64-216-108-47.ded.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
bob2Demon_stroke: install and examine the apt-zip package05:46
Demon_strokewuts the apt zip package05:47
MadpilotDemon_stroke: cat5 is network cable05:47
duckywhere can I get a binary package for bluefish?05:47
bob2Demon_stroke: dude05:47
bob2ducky: from ubuntu...05:47
bob2Demon_stroke: 13:46:56           bob2 | Demon_stroke: install and examine the apt-zip package05:47
bullzdoes anyone know how i can access my files.. its password proteccted.. what do i do -.-05:47
Kamping_Kaiserbullz: put in your password?05:47
duckybob2, apt-get install bluefish doesn't work05:47
bullzit doesnt ask me to05:47
=== zdennis [n=zdennis@66-227-241-58.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
bullzit just says i do not have the privlidges05:48
bob2bullz: can you be more vague?05:48
bob2bullz: e.g. don't tell us what files you mean, or what you're trying to do, or how you're accessing them05:48
bullzYou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "history".05:48
Kamping_Kaiserducky: what's bluefish?05:48
bob2ducky: well, it's in ubuntu, in universe05:48
bullzbob is that enough ?05:48
NaliothKamping_Kaiser: bluefish is a text based html editor05:48
bullzi copied it off the error05:48
duckybob2, http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/download.html05:48
bob2ducky: ignore that05:49
Kamping_Kaiserok thanks Nalioth. new the name was familiar :)05:49
bob2bullz: when doing what?05:49
bullztrying to open the folder05:49
bob2"the folder"?05:49
bob2no one else can see your screen05:49
bullzthe name of the folder is called history05:49
bob2dude05:49
bob2stop05:49
bob2it's not just called "history"05:50
duckydoes anyone know where there is a binary for the code editor bluefish?05:50
bob2where is it?05:50
bob2ducky: it's in ubuntu05:50
bullzDesktop05:50
bob2ducky: did you not enable universe yet?05:50
Madpilotducky: bluefish is in Universe05:50
Naliothducky: in the repos05:50
duckyI don't know what universe is05:50
bob2ducky: then say so05:50
bob2ducky: ignoring help you don't understand is fairly suboptimal05:50
duckyapt-get install bluefish should work I would think05:50
Naliothducky: read your mail from the bot05:50
bob2ducky: not unless you told apt about the universe repository05:51
bob2ducky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:51
bullzbob2: it's on my desktop ...05:51
bullzits a folder with an x and a lock on it05:51
bob2bullz: and how did it get there?05:51
bullzi put it there05:51
Hentai^NTok that makes sence about the noob thing now05:51
bullzwhy is it bad to have it on desktop?05:52
bob2bullz: and how did you put it there?05:52
bob2what is it?05:52
bullzsaved it off of firefox05:52
bob2which means....05:52
bullzand it saved there as default05:53
bullzand i extracted it there05:53
=== Dr_Net [i=Dr_Net@DENIS01.RES.WPI.NET] has joined #ubuntu
mik3to walk, or not to walk, that is the question05:53
Dr_Nethello, dear users of linux ^^05:53
=== LathropWells [n=lathropw@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== JosephB [n=ck@S0106000d88b53081.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Dr_Netanybdoy willing to help me with drivers to my laptop's touchpad?05:54
bullzbob2: should i extract somewhere else05:54
=== aeruder [i=muncher@ip68-102-201-46.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4ndid any of you guys install blackdown-j2re1.4 for amd64?05:55
duckybob2, thanks05:56
ParadoxxPickle_Weasel: you there m8?05:56
duckybob2, that worked05:56
Pickle_Weaselaye05:56
Pickle_Weaseldoing 20 things at once05:56
JosephBI need to delete a redundant entry in my gnome menu, it's not letting me just right click and delete the menu item either05:56
Pickle_Weasel>_<05:56
=== robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #ubuntu
Paradoxxwhat source did you use to get the file?05:57
=== Dr_Willis [i=willis@12-222-84-112.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Pickle_Weaselum, hold05:57
Pickle_Weaselyou mean for Gaim?05:57
Paradoxxyep05:58
JosephByeah. i have 2 gaims menu items since i upgraded the package. ;)05:58
Pickle_Weaseli just followed the instructions05:58
Pickle_Weaseli'll walk you through it in PM if you like05:58
JosephBthanks PW05:58
Pickle_Weaseleh?05:58
Pickle_Weaselyw, i guess =o05:58
Dr_Netppl, has anyone had problems with touchpads ?05:59
JosephBoh...you weren't talking to me :P05:59
Pickle_Weaseli was just about to point that out05:59
Pickle_Weaselbut also to point out05:59
Pickle_Weaseli know how to solve your problem05:59
Pickle_Weaseland i can help you05:59
Pickle_Weaseland i can walk you through it in PM05:59
Pickle_Weasel-_-05:59
Dr_Netif you have, just send me the config file - that's all i'm begging for ^^05:59
JosephBif you can, i'd appreciate it.06:00
Paradoxxkk06:00
Paradoxxyes please06:00
Pickle_Weaselok Paradoxx, let me finish with JosephB06:00
Paradoxxi'd appreciate it06:00
Paradoxxkk06:00
=== deFrysk [n=deFrysk@i111223.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Carpe_LibertatemIn some Distros I've used, you can cycle between desktop backgrounds. Is there a way to do that in UBuntu?06:01
ParadoxxPickle_Weasel: you followed the instructions on the first page06:01
Paradoxx??06:01
=== billytwowilly [n=billy@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== h08817 [n=h08817@pcp05165700pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
billytwowillyanyone good with graphics enough to turn this image: http://media.mawsonlakes.org/misc/theopencd30label.png into a 4.87 " by 4.87" image I can put on a cd cover with much less pain than the current one is providing me with?06:02
billytwowillyI need to print 200 of the cd labels for an installfest.06:03
=== mushtaq [n=macuser@ftms-kl.ftmsuni.com.my] has joined #ubuntu
Pickle_WeaselParadoxx, yes sir06:03
Pickle_Weasel=)06:03
=== mushtaq [n=macuser@ftms-kl.ftmsuni.com.my] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Pickle_Weaselthose instructions indeed06:03
Paradoxxhmm06:03
Paradoxxkk06:03
Pickle_Weaselthat's all you need to do06:03
Carpe_LibertatemIn some distros I've used, you can cycle between desktop backgrounds. Is there a way to do that in Ubuntu?06:04
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: chbg06:04
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: there are other methods for changing wallpaper06:05
=== Cody` [n=cody@ddsl-216-68-134-98.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu
Cody`/home/cody/images/IllusionOS.img /media/IllusionOS msdos loop,auto 0 006:05
Cody`why couldn't a regular user write to that?06:05
robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: use feh and wrtire urself a funky script :)06:05
Cody`I can't get it set so a regular user can write to it06:06
Cody`:/06:06
Pickle_WeaselParadoxx, did you figure it out?06:06
Madpilotbillytwowilly: the GIMP should resize it without problems - you should add a label to NVU first though...06:06
robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: wrtire/write06:06
Paradoxxkk, it seems to b going thru now now..06:06
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: yes, i use feh, and have written a script for myself06:06
h08817how can i remove grub from my mbr?06:06
Paradoxxi guess its cause i'm streaming somthing, and have azurues ope06:06
Paradoxxn06:06
Paradoxxi was gettin a host connection error b406:06
Paradoxxbut seems to b going thru now06:07
Naliothh08817: windows boot floppy06:07
Carpe_Libertatem Nalioth: I don't know how to write scripts. :-P06:07
=== mindstorm [n=mindstor@67-42-68-240.albq.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nso I got this .deb named blackdown-j2re1.4_1.4.2+rc1_amd64 @homedir, how do I install it?06:07
=== CCFIEL [n=kelly@210.213.153.163] has joined #ubuntu
Cody`dpkg -i bob.deb06:07
CCFIELhello ppl..06:07
h08817Nalioth, it is installed on a win9806:07
=== back_east [n=jesse@wndsnyhed01-pool0-a20.wndsny.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu
Pickle_Weaseli installed linux last week, i am a linux noob, i come in here for help06:07
Pickle_Weaseli end up helping people06:07
Pickle_Weaselwtf eh06:07
Naliothh08817: a windows boot floppy will clean the mbr06:08
=== spanglesontoast [n=edd@eddland.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
CCFIELdoes anybody here used gdesklets...starterbar..desklet?06:08
JosephBand while i'm here...is there some crazy voodoo i need to learn to get my palm to sync? when i hotsync i can see it show up in the usb device manager, but gpilot just won't talk to it06:08
h08817Nalioth, so does it have to be a 98 boot floppy?06:08
robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: hehe, a good time to learn!06:08
=== mushtaq [n=macuser@ftms-kl.ftmsuni.com.my] has joined #ubuntu
h08817Nalioth, and if so where can i get one?06:08
Dr_Netwhoever had problems with touchpads on laptops, would you send me your config file?06:08
Dr_Netor, PM me06:08
Demon_strokehey, is there a media player that will play (without me having to install codecs), videos and musik06:08
Naliothh08817: use your win98 to make one06:08
mushtaqhi i have install kubuntu on powerpc but i cannot enter X as default i have to type startx everytime how to change that /06:08
mushtaq?06:09
back_easth08817: bootdisk.com06:09
Naliothh08817: put fdisk.com on it when it's made06:09
=== LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-206-163.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu []
h08817then give the cmd fixmbr?06:09
Naliothh08817: that is the fdisk.com in your c:/windows/ directory06:09
Naliothh08817: you DID say win98, right?06:09
mushtaqhi i have install kubuntu on powerpc but i cannot enter X as default i have to type startx everytime how to change that ?06:10
h08817Nalioth, yes 9806:10
Paradoxxwoot06:11
Naliothh08817: make a boot disk, and find your fdisk.com you have in c:/windows/command and copy that onto it06:11
Paradoxxmy gaim flashes now...06:11
Naliothh08817: boot with the floppy, and type "fdisk /mbr", and that'll do it06:11
Carpe_LibertatemNalioth: Could you help me with the script thing?06:12
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: use chbg06:12
=== LathropWells [n=lathropw@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nYAY!!!! I got blackdownjre amd64 plugin working on Firefox!!!!06:13
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: or google    ranwp.sh ubuntu06:13
LathropWellsback_east hm interesting part message.06:13
=== incubii [n=incubii@cor9-ppp657.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Dr_NetAnybody had troubles with touchpads on laptops?06:13
Naliothok fellas. how to log into a gui instead of a console?06:13
Dr_Netmsg me plz, i need just one config file =)06:14
=== slicslak [n=slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
h08817Nalioth, how do i know which version of 98 i have? i know i don't have se but i have custom and OEM to choose from06:14
Naliothh08817: it doesnt matter06:14
CCFIELdoes anybody here used gdesklets...starterbar..desklet?06:15
NaliothCCFIEL: i use adesklets06:15
CCFIELNalioth: i like starterbar desklets.. have you used that?06:16
NaliothCCFIEL: never heard of it. link?06:16
h08817Nalioth, ok thanks06:16
billytwowillyMadpilot, I didn't make it, someone else did, I'm just trying to get my crappy printer to print it on a white cd cover.06:17
JosephBHal Device Manager sees Palm m500, gpilot won't talk to it. Added a udev rule for it in /etc/udev/rules.d -- Still can't sync06:17
CCFIELNaliot: http://www.gdesklets.org/06:17
=== fivetwentysix [n=fivetwen@n219078247106.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
fivetwentysixHi06:18
fivetwentysixHow do I setup my mouse buttons such as my back and left button? I'm using a Logitech MX 518.06:18
CCFIELnaliot: i have tried the clock desklets.. and it was succefully display in my desktop..i want to put the starter bar..but it just put a black dot..06:19
=== ContinuumXLS [n=sean@12-218-38-47.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Roots [i=olsen@adsl-68-91-218-11.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothCCFIEL: gdesklets dont work for me06:20
=== revildab [i=NNSCRIPT@pcp0010240784pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
LathropWellsDr_Net Hi patience and persistence will pay off.  spent the last hour fighting with cedega configuration for an ancient app.06:20
ContinuumXLSHey, does anyone know of a good widows emulator? I want to run photoshop on my ubuntu06:20
CCFIELNalioth: why what's wrong?06:20
=== ContinuumXLS [n=sean@12-218-38-47.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Cody` [n=cody@ddsl-216-68-134-98.fuse.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== pajama [n=ricardo@207.250.uio.satnet.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ContinuumXLS [n=sean@12-218-38-47.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== thedevilsjester [n=akuma@12-207-194-51.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9d77.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
LathropWells!emulator06:22
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, LathropWells06:22
LathropWells!emulation06:23
ubotuLathropWells: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:23
thedevilsjesterWhat is a good IDE avilable in ubuntu's apt?  (i.e. anjuta, etc...)06:23
ContinuumXLSI want to install photoshop on my ubuntu...what is the best way of going about it?  is it even possible?06:23
thedevilsjesterContinuum, use Wine or CrossOver06:23
h08817why install photoshop? thats what the gimp is06:24
=== kafeine [n=kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu
ContinuumXLSI know photoshop06:24
thedevilsjestergimp sucks, it really does, use Pixel32 its much better06:24
ContinuumXLSI think i installed wine already06:24
thedevilsjesterif you want native that is06:24
h08817good for u i wish i knew photoshop06:24
ContinuumXLShaha06:24
thedevilsjesterPixel32 is really nice, I would check it out06:24
ContinuumXLShow do I run wine?06:24
Carpe_LibertatemIsn't Adobe developing a PS for Linux?06:24
thedevilsjestertype  wine <app.exe>06:25
h08817where do u get pixel32 from?06:25
fivetwentysixHow do I setup my mouse buttons such as my back and left button? I'm using a Logitech MX 518.06:25
LathropWellsContin, - it is possible  crossover office, cedega or vmware may be worth a try.06:25
aruwasn't there a project for a bit to make the Gimp interface more like Photoshop?06:25
thedevilsjesterpixel32.box.sk06:25
Madpilotaru: GimpShop, I think it's called. ask google06:25
thedevilsjesterits like photoshop but cross platform06:25
aruthats what it is06:25
LathropWellsConti, - Google a bit and see what other people say about it.06:26
JosephBhow the mighty have fallen..06:26
thedevilsjesteranyone know of a good IDE thats in apt?06:26
ContinuumXLSThedevilgester: Thanks!06:26
LathropWellsGIMP is very powerful. - the interface is just plain awful.06:27
thedevilsjesterwhat ContinuumXLS ?06:27
fivetwentysixWhat's the shortcut to open terminal?06:27
ContinuumXLSthanks for telling me06:27
thedevilsjesterYou look at Pixel32?06:27
h17m4nman... I spent 2 days trying to install ndiswrapper+broadcom.... and now I'm installing packages in minutes... wow... yesterday I didn't think it was so easy06:28
thedevilsjesterYeah GIMP has many features but its interface leaves alot to be desired06:28
JosephBI love GIMP. Yes, the interface isn't all that intuitive, is it?06:28
h17m4njava is working, limewire is workin, WOW06:28
LathropWells"GIMPshop" - new interface for GIMP   great idea06:28
=== EnsignRedshirt [n=wweckess@cpe-24-59-254-40.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.06:28
thedevilsjester282 people and know one knows of a good ide in apt? :P06:29
h17m4nsome are noobs06:29
h17m4nwell06:29
aeruderthedevilsjester: vim06:29
h17m4nat least I am06:29
EnsignRedshirtAre they all "people"?06:29
JosephBworking on it, tdj....i had one installed the other day before i wiped and started over06:29
aeruderthedevilsjester: works for me ;)06:29
thedevilsjesteraeruder, I said a GOOD ide :)06:29
aruwouldnt emacs be a good IDE?06:29
thedevilsjesterI normally use anjuta06:30
JosephBAnjuta is what i used, yeah06:30
aeruderaru: that may work too06:30
thedevilsjesterbut its not in apt and I dont feel like a long compile06:30
aeruderlinux has had two pretty awesome ides for a long time now ;)06:30
arutheres xEmacs isn't there?06:30
fivetwentysixWhat's the shortcut to open terminal?06:30
Agrajagthedevilsjester: what, yes it is06:30
CCFIELdoes anybody use gdesklets... i have tried the clock desklets module.. and it was succefully display in my desktop..i want to put the starter bar..but it just put a black dot.. how to configure starter bar..?06:30
Agrajaganjuta - A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++06:30
JosephBdo you have the multiverse repos in your apt?06:30
Agrajagit's probably in universe06:30
Agrajagor multiverse06:31
thedevilsjesterI did a search and it didnt show up...06:31
aeruderSection: universe/gnome06:31
thedevilsjesterits not listed in Synaptic, does this front end not list everything or does it not actually use apt?06:32
Madpilotthedevilsjester: it's in Universe06:32
Madpilot!tell thedevilsjester about repos06:32
thedevilsjesterAh ok, not used to apt, used to portage :P06:32
EnsignRedshirtAnyone know how to tell evolution what browser it should use when I click on a url in an email?  I'm running warty, and I replaced ubuntu's firefox with the version from the mozilla web page, but now clicking on a url in evolution doesn't do anything.06:33
JosephB you will need to use the Hoary-extras repository. To use this, in the Synaptic repositories dialog box, click Add and then Custom. In the dialog box, type in the following APT line:06:33
JosephBdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:33
JosephBokay...get that added to your repos, then do the search for anjuta again. it works.06:34
Naliothsynaptic and aptitude are frontends to apt-get06:34
NaliothEnsignRedshirt: system > prefs > preferred apps06:34
=== aeruder [i=muncher@ip68-102-201-46.ks.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
z|banditohello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)06:35
=== Demon_stroke [i=spiritwo@71-9-133-61.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
thedevilsjestergot it, had to also select Universe from the settings dialog also (was unchecked)06:35
thedevilsjesterHmm I havent rebooted since install, does Ubuntu include a bootsplash by default?06:36
Xatu*falls down face first to the ground*06:36
youngcoderi hate samba06:37
Xatu*falls down face first to the ground*06:37
EnsignRedshirtNalioth: Ah, I see. (But in warty, it looks like Computer->Desktop Preferences->Preferred Applications)06:37
Xatu*falls down face first to the ground*06:37
h17m4ntalking about samba... how do I access a shared folder from my windoze pc?06:37
Xatu*falls down face first to the ground*06:37
=== holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderh17m4n, thats what is so bad about it06:38
h17m4nheh06:38
youngcoderh17m4n, i cant figure it out and things arent where they are supposed to be :)06:38
ContinuumXLSi downloaded and installed WINE, but I cant find it! how do I run it??06:38
youngcoder!wine06:38
youngcoderhmm06:38
h17m4nI tried smb://192.168.1.10X/folder and it wouldnt work06:38
youngcoderya i tried that also06:39
thedevilsjesterContinuumXLS, just open a terminal and type 'wine /path/to/app/name.exe'06:39
youngcoderhttp://www.math.temple.edu/computing/samba.html#install   ....   this is what im using06:39
h17m4nisn't there a different app to do this?06:39
youngcoderh17 nope not that i know of06:39
=== Drajka [n=woot@cpe-24-26-146-15.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Xatu [i=dragon@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265] has joined #ubuntu
ContinuumXLSi dont know the path to it06:40
ContinuumXLSi searched for it06:40
DrajkaK.. I'm trying to install/compile Xine.. but.. I"m a complete noob. And I don't know how. ;] 06:40
Drajkaer06:40
Drajkawell06:40
Drajkacompile it .. and install it tha tis06:40
ContinuumXLS(how do you message by the way)06:40
=== Xatu [i=dragon@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265] has left #ubuntu []
DrajkaI'll actually take any program that has mpg/mpeg decoders and plays video06:40
DrajkaBut...06:40
EnsignRedshirtWhoa, this is weird.  I'm trying to change the preferred browser, and I can't type more than two character in the field where I enter the command for the browser.  After typing fi, it clears itself.06:40
h17m4nk I bookmarked that page06:40
EnsignRedshirtI'm trying to type firefox06:41
h17m4nI'm gonna keep working on the codecs06:41
h17m4nx@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame06:41
h17m4nReading package lists... Done06:41
h17m4nBuilding dependency tree... Done06:41
h17m4nE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame06:41
h17m4nsomehow that one won't work06:41
NaliothContinuumXLS: in a terminal type "which wine"06:41
youngcoder!tell ContinuumXLS about wine06:42
Naliothh17m4n: no more pasting. use #flood or a pastebin. please06:42
h17m4nk sry06:42
EnsignRedshirtNevermind... I had several copies of the "preferred apps" window open.06:42
Madpiloth17m4n: you need the Universe/Multiverse repos, probably. and use Synaptic, it's easier than apt-get...06:42
=== adiabatic [n=comatoas@dsl-206-55-130-248.tstonramp.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== JosephB is now known as FibreOptic
DrajkaI need a program that plays videos06:43
Drajkaor I need to install a mpg/mpeg decoder for totem?06:44
Madpilot!tell Drajka about restricted06:44
MadpilotDrajka: you need codecs - see the URL ubotu just sent you06:44
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-210.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
cyphasedoes anyone know of an easy to use server admin tool?06:46
Naliothapokryphos has arrived06:46
apokryphosaloha06:46
h17m4nwhats the package name for the mp3 codec?06:46
apokryphosh17m4n: gstreamer0.8-mad06:46
h17m4nthx06:47
FibreOptichow do you add kernel modules to load on startup?06:47
=== brc_ [n=brc@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc] has joined #ubuntu
brc_hello06:48
brc_anybody know the current status of breezy network installer isos?06:48
Drajka....06:49
DrajkaMadpilot,06:49
brc_all I've been able to find is this, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/daily-installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ and the most recent iso is from the 12'th06:49
Drajkathe apt line dosen't work06:49
brc_it fails with a message about missing kernel modules06:49
MadpilotDrajka: do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?06:49
Naliothbrc_: why do ou wnt a netboot image?06:50
DrajkaMadpilot,  --06:50
Drajkahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184206:50
brc_Nalioth, no special reason, just want to install breezy06:50
brc_without installing hoary first06:51
MadpilotDrajka: w32codecs don't work on AMD64 installs, AFAIK06:51
apokryphosDrajka: you've got the line wrong there.06:51
=== Rotund [n=joe@207-118-214-144.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
Rotundhello06:51
RotundI was wondering if anyone's use Breezy06:51
Drajka<.<06:51
RotundHow is it?06:51
=== bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-39-69.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkaso how can I fix it.06:51
brc_Nalioth, are there nightly builds of the full breezy isos?06:51
apokryphosubotu: tell Drajka about hoary-extras06:51
brc_if so, where...06:51
Naliothbrc_: get a fresh hot daily06:51
cyphaseRotund, i have it on my test machine06:51
cyphaseit's good06:51
Naliothbrc_: they all update from the net anyway, during installation06:52
RotundIs it fairly stable for day-to-day use?06:52
=== EnsignRedshirt [n=wweckess@cpe-24-59-254-40.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
brc_"they"?06:52
Naliothbrc_: cdimage.ubuntulinix.org06:52
Naliothcrap06:52
Naliothbrc_: cdimage.ubuntulinux.org06:52
Drajka........... ok06:52
Drajkaand then06:52
Drajkawhat do i do06:52
Drajkaafter I get that..06:52
Naliothbrc_: get ya a fresh daily06:52
cyphaseRotund, i haven't had any crashes06:53
MadpilotDrajka: in Synaptic, hit the Reload button06:53
DrajkaI did06:53
DrajkaWhat do I download06:53
FibreOpticeh...found it.06:53
RotundIs there any major bugs in Breezy still?  like Evolution corrupts all e-mail or something06:53
=== brc_ grumbles about how these damn kids and their dailys.
FibreOpticreboot, bbl06:53
Carpe_LibertatemI'm not getting chbg. I've added my pictures to the list, how do I set when it should change?06:53
MadpilotDrajka: now search for w32codec06:53
brc_I tell ya, when I was a lad we had nightlies, and we had to etch the bits into the cd by HAND06:53
brc_and WE LIKED IT!06:54
apokryphosDrajka: are you on i386?06:54
Drajka6406:54
=== FibreOptic [n=ck@S0106000d88b53081.ok.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Madpilotbrc_: thank you for our nightly dose of Python ;)06:54
brc_thanks Nalioth...be nice if that was linked from somewhere obvious06:54
apokryphosDrajka: there is no w32codecs, of course, for that (in case you're trying to get it).06:54
DrajkaNo, not trying to get that ;)06:54
apokryphosok06:54
=== brc_ prefers ruby thankyouverymuch
DrajkaTrying to get anything that works.06:54
Drajka:] 06:54
RotundDrajka: What file type?06:55
DrajkaI'm a linux noob, but not a computer noob...06:55
Drajkampg/mpeg06:55
apokryphosDrajka: so you don't know what you're trying to get?06:55
Carpe_Libertatem I'm not getting chbg. I've added my pictures to the list, how do I set when it should change?06:55
MadpilotDrajka: now that you've got repos working, go back to that Restricted Formats page, it's got mpg info06:55
apokryphosubotu: tell Drajka about w32codecs06:55
=== Fikrann [n=fikrann@zmt.zinc.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: there is a setting on hours/minutes/days06:55
=== thedevilsjester [n=akuma@12-207-194-51.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
FikrannHello06:55
RotundDrajka: You don't need that.  just enable the community thingy.  Look under gstreamer-0.8 in synaptic06:56
RotundThen Totem will just play them06:56
FikrannIs Breezy still broken to the point X refuses to start up?06:56
=== dabaR [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-186-216.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu
dabaRhi06:56
Carpe_LibertatemNalioth: Is it at "Properties"  at the top, where it says "Interval"?06:56
thedevilsjesterOk I am on a 64bit system trying to install Point2Play -small (the .deb file), but it complains about arch differences, anyone encounter this?06:57
Drajkawoot.06:57
Drajkasuccess06:57
Drajkathanks06:57
Drajka<306:57
=== Drajka [n=woot@cpe-24-26-146-15.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Rotundokay... he didn't even stay...06:57
RotundWOW!06:57
h17m4nthedevilsjester, it must be a 386 arch06:58
Rotundyup06:58
h17m4nand you need a amd64/x86-64/ia-32 one06:58
RotundYou need to run the 32-bit version of Ubuntu06:58
thedevilsjesterile Description:06:58
thedevilsjesterDEB format Point2Play 2.0.3 graphical frontend for Cedega. (requires: python >= 2.3, pygtk2, gtk2-engines, gtk2). Unsupported. Users who have a 64 bit distribution should use one of these small packages. If you have problems please try the appropriate large package. Created August 11th, 2005.06:58
Rotundhmmm... wow.06:59
=== DelPede [i=Exnay@port91.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterit works perfectly in gentoo64 bit, dont see why it shouldnt in ubunutu06:59
sproingiesigh.  someone is trying to brute force me on ssh ... getting all kinds of inbound port22 activity from a single ip06:59
RotundI didn't think Wine worked under 64 bit linux06:59
sproingieis there a decent IDS tool i can use that will firewall attackers off automatically?06:59
Rotundsproingie: get them back =)06:59
thedevilsjesterwine works perfectly under 64bit06:59
Rotundyup06:59
brc_Nalioth, know if the nightlies on http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ are mirrored anywhere?06:59
sproingieRotund: it's probably just a zombie. no point.  just looking for a tool i can use to put the shields up automaticall07:00
sproingiey07:00
brc_it's not even starting it's so slow07:00
Carpe_LibertatemWhere's a place to get wallpapers besides deviantart?07:00
Naliothbrc_: it takes a week or two for them to filter out to the mirrors07:00
brc_blah07:00
sproingieCarpe_Libertatem: digitalblasphemy.com07:00
z|banditohello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)07:00
h17m4nthe divx4linux pack wont dl07:00
Rotundsproingie: I don't know a program, but I think you can set up iptables to automatically do it after so many attempts07:00
Madpilot!tell Carpe_Libertatem about themes07:00
sproingieRotund: i don't really know anything about iptables07:00
=== sproingie turned off ssh at his router for now, but doesn't want to leave it closed
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: there are OK (and some very good) wallpapers at most of those URLs ubotu just sent you07:01
=== Milk_ [n=amshake@12-221-214-138.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
Milk_Is there a way to tell what processes are running that are not allowing me to unmount a drive?07:01
brc_Carpe_Libertatem, http://www.caedes.net/   http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/07:01
brc_free..07:01
sproingieRotund: i'm looking for an IDS that will write those iptables deny rules when it catches an attack07:02
=== revildab [i=NNSCRIPT@pcp0010240784pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Rotundsproingie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1820055#post182005507:02
Rotundsproingie: built right into the kernel =)07:02
thedevilsjesteris there anyway to tell if this deb is going to conflic with existing apps I have?07:02
thedevilsjester32bit deb forced on 64bit arch07:03
sproingieRotund: nifty.  thanks07:03
sproingieRotund: is there any standard place to put iptables commands on startup?07:03
Rotundthat's what I'm looking for07:04
sproingiehm, shorewall looks like something useful07:05
thedevilsjester sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture ~/point2play-small_2.0.3_i386.deb07:06
IcemanV9what's version of bmp? 0.9.7?07:06
thedevilsjesterseems to work fine, doesnt break anything, incase anywone was curious07:06
brc_hey Nalioth know of any mirrors that have semi-recent breezy dailies? I can't seem to find any07:07
brc_er, nevermind, odd... it just started to work07:07
Rotundsproingie: you make a new init.d script07:07
Rotundsproingie: this is shown at http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm07:08
=== anomaly [n=aa@adsl-0-171-207.mob.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
brc_very strange...user limit?07:08
Naliothbrc_: search google for "colony-3 .iso"07:08
brc_k07:09
sproingieRotund: thanks again07:09
Rotundn/a07:09
Rotundn/p07:09
Rotundsproingie: thank you.  I'm adding it to my server now =)07:10
=== Gorth [n=Gorth@c-24-1-206-136.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthis telling WINE to use XP dlls a good idea??07:15
Gorththe website discouraged NT :(07:15
NaliothGorth: it works better with win9x dlls07:15
Carpe_LibertatemUgh, I wonder what idiot made the Weather Report app use a list of locations, rather than simply utilizing a zip code input box v_v07:15
Gorthnalioth, thanks!07:16
Gorth(how do i go about telling wine to use those :()07:16
Gorthi have a 98SE cd07:16
Gorthjust no idea how to get from here to there!07:16
Gorthall my searches just say "you can do it" and not really HOW07:16
=== anomaly [n=aa@adsl-0-171-207.mob.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothGorth: you don't dual boot?07:17
Gorthand also, are the 9x dlls that much better than the default wine?07:17
Gorthi do, but with XP07:17
NaliothGorth: many years ago (when i had intel boxen) i had a treble boot system07:18
NaliothGorth: i had win98se, win2k and linux07:18
Gorth:O07:18
Nalioththe win98se was only there for wine07:18
NaliothGorth: it was a minimal install (only there for the dlls)07:18
Gorthso i really need another partition?07:18
FikrannGorth, not every of the bazillion functions in that swarm of .dlls is yet rewritten and debugged in Wine.07:18
NaliothGorth: no new partition needed07:19
Gorthso getting the 98se dlls is a good idea (better than the defaults?)07:19
Gorth:O nalioth!07:19
Gorthhow do i do it07:19
Naliothwin98 can exist on the same partition as your winxp. only thing is.. .. ..07:19
Naliothinstalling win98 will eat your /mbr (no more booting linux)07:19
Gorth:O07:20
Gorthso what do i do?!07:20
FikrannGorth, I have installed 98se within wmware then copied dlls from it..07:20
Naliothyou'll need this if you isntall win98 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:20
NaliothGorth: know anyone running win98 on a networkable laptop?07:21
Gorthfikrann, that sounds like a good idea07:21
Gorthnalioth, no :(07:21
Gorthwell07:21
Fikrannyou can get vmware trial .. and it'll be far sufficent.07:21
Gorthwait07:21
Gorthprobably not :(07:21
=== Agrajag [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
thellamahow do install vlc? apt-get what?07:23
Gorthand my friend said w32codecs was removed??07:23
thellamaanyone?07:24
FikrannGorth, its in multiverse07:24
Nalioththellama: apt-get install vlc07:24
thellamadoesn't work07:24
Gorthah thanks fikrann07:24
Tobahow can I mount an iso?07:24
Tobamount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to.iso /mountpoint07:25
Fikrannthellama, use your friendly apt front-end and search for 'vlc', that's what these frontends are.07:25
Tobais that right?07:25
=== thedevilsjester [n=akuma@12-207-194-51.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
FikrannToba, yes. Works for root only, though.07:25
=== syn-ack [i=Matt@ip68-228-38-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
TobaI'm running as root07:25
Tobaand it says that the filesystem is wrong07:25
Tobais there a command to verify the integrity of an iso?07:26
thedevilsjesterLol one issue after another, ok xorg-x11-devel package usually contains the X headerfiles, where/what is this called in apt? or do I have to manually install it?07:26
thedevilsjesterToba md5sum07:26
syn-ackToba: yeah, check the MD5 hashg07:26
thedevilsjesteryou need the original sum though07:26
Toba...07:26
Tobathat's no good07:26
TobaI used nrg2iso to get it from nrg07:26
thellamaFikrann: comes up with nothing...07:26
=== Adross [n=drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== robertbb [n=robertbb@d154-20-136-58.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== surfdue [n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue] has joined #ubuntu
thellamamaybe it's not checking on the net07:26
surfduehi07:27
thellamaonly in my cd07:27
FikrannToba, you can use nautilus to 'open' the .iso.07:27
Adrossdoes anyone here have a mic and is willing to help me make a commercial for english extension? If so, could you join #adross07:27
thedevilsjesteranyone develop in here and use the X header files?  I need to know what package in apt installs them (normally this is xorg-x11-devel) but that doesnt exist in apt (atleast the repositories I have)07:28
TobaFikrann: I'll try that.07:28
Tobait says error occured07:28
Tobawhich sucks07:28
Gorthwhat would ya'll recommend i do for windows emulation/running on linux?07:29
Gorthi have XP and 98 libs available07:29
Adrossvmware?07:29
FikrannGorth, what you want to run in it?07:29
=== alex73 [n=alexandr@63.245.124.140] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthgames, probably07:29
thedevilsjesterwont run very fast07:29
thedevilsjester1 FPS if you are lucky07:30
Gorththey're games like UO07:30
thellamahow can I install vlc (video lan client)07:30
GorthUO ran ok in WINE with a 586 color mode07:30
Gorthit was just all kinda blue07:30
thedevilsjesterWINE is not an emulator07:30
thedevilsjesterthats why07:30
thedevilsjestervmware and the likes are07:30
Gorthoh07:30
thellamathat's what wine stands for ;)07:30
thedevilsjesterwine only emulates windows api calls which are usually few and far between in the code of an app07:31
Adrossthellama: sudo apt-get install vlc07:31
thellamaAdross: it doesn't find the package07:31
thedevilsjesterthe rest is just translated hardware calls07:31
Adrossthellama: after enabling the universe reps07:31
thellamaah07:31
thellamahow...07:31
Adrossdo you know how to enable universe?07:31
anomalyfrom the winehq website: Wine as a compatibility layer for running Windows programs. Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely free alternative implementation of the Windows API consisting of 100% non-Microsoft code, however Wine can optionally use native Windows DLLs if they are available07:31
thellamanot really... (blushes)07:32
Nalioth!tell Adross about sources07:32
Adrossthellama: one moment please07:32
thellamak07:32
=== Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterI am looking for the X.h file (and friends), anyone know which package in apt will install these?07:33
Nalioththedevilsjester: what are you doing? to need X.h?07:34
Adrossthellama: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:34
thellamathanks07:34
Nalioththellama: please wait07:34
Madpilot!ubuntuguide07:34
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.07:34
Madpilot!tell thellama about repos07:34
thedevilsjesterDevelopment07:35
thedevilsjesterUsing X11 Api07:35
Nalioththedevilsjester: x-11 developement requires "xlibs-dev"07:35
thedevilsjesterah ok, its normally xorg-x11-devel (via source, rpm, portage, etc...), didnt notice xlibs-dev07:36
Gorthwelp07:36
Gorththanks guys!07:36
=== Gorth [n=Gorth@c-24-1-206-136.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== pundai [n=pundai@S010600131081f1b5.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
pundaihey how do i set up remote repositories/double check07:37
thedevilsjesterthat did the trick Nalioth thank you07:37
FikrannNalioth, do you happen to know if X is still hopelessly broken in Breezy?07:37
skplcan someone tell me how to install donkey?07:37
=== IcemanV9 just find out that pixel32 is not free :/
pundaii tried to install subversion but it asked for the cd07:38
NaliothFikrann: there is hope now (freeze is coming soon)07:38
Fikrannyay!07:38
cyphaseis there a way to save a list of your installed applicatons?07:38
NaliothFikrann: i'd still wait a few weeks b4 i put it on a production machine07:38
cyphaseso that you can install ubuntu and have apt/synaptic install all those apps for you07:38
Madpilotpundai: you can remove the CD from your list of repos in Synaptic07:39
Naliothcyphase: yes, but i dont know how to do it (maybe open a terminal and type "dpkg --help" for a clue)07:39
FikrannNalioth, of course, but I'm going to switch hdds and check if I can get it going.07:39
skplcan someone tell me how to install mldonkey?07:39
cyphaseskpl, apt-get install mldonkey07:39
regeyacarefully.07:39
skplE: Couldn't find package mldonkey07:40
cyphasethen it's not in the repositories07:40
skplhow do i add it?07:40
cyphaseat least no the ones you have enabled07:40
pundaiMadpilot, ok07:40
pundaiMadpilot, where/how07:40
Naliothskpl: what does mldonkey do? what network does it operate on?07:40
cyphaseskpl, mldonnkey-gui07:40
cyphasemldonkey-gui*07:40
skplis that the only program i need?07:40
cyphaseyou can try amule07:41
Madpilotpundai: in Synaptic, open Settings -- Repositories - I think the CD is right at the top of the list of repos there07:41
cyphaseor gtk-gnutella07:41
skplwhat is amule?07:41
cyphasean eDonkey client07:41
regeyaapt-cache search mldonkey07:41
Carpe_LibertatemUgh, what's the key to make a tilde in Linux?07:41
regeyamldonkey-gui is in universe07:42
cyphasesame as any other OS07:42
Carpe_LibertatemWhen I try to make one it gives me `07:42
cyphasehold shift07:42
Carpe_LibertatemI am!07:42
Carpe_Libertatem:07:42
regeyashift?07:42
Carpe_Libertatemer07:42
regeya~~~~07:42
Carpe_Libertatem:-P07:42
regeya~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~07:42
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: shift-` - top left corner of a standard keyboard - ~~~07:42
regeyaw00t w00t07:42
cyphase~~~~~~~~~~~~~07:42
Carpe_Libertatem````````` is what I get07:42
regeyamaana07:42
=== IcemanV9 [n=nobody@adsl-68-79-61-21.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Carpe_LibertatemWell this is messed-up.07:42
cyphasetry the other shift key07:42
Carpe_LibertatemDid07:43
Naliothyou guys forgot to ask Carpe_Libertatem what key bindings he's using07:43
regeyamuy loco!07:43
=== brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
cyphaseyour on ubuntu i assume07:43
Carpe_LibertatemYes.07:43
cyphasei don't know then07:43
brownie17aftertaf: bob2 told me to do this sutff with my repos, and now i get an error everytime i open synaptic, it still works, but i wan to get rid of the error07:43
regeyah h07:44
Naliothbrownie17: what error (you can paraphrase)07:44
brownie17W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:44
brownie17nalioth: oops07:44
regeya~07:44
brownie17sorry everyone07:44
brownie17accident07:44
Carpe_LibertatemWell does anyone know how I can edit the actual keyboard layout?07:44
regeyawhat keyboard layout are you currently using?  what language did you install for?  etc.07:44
Carpe_LibertatemEnglish US07:44
brownie17nalioth: what i accidnetly just pasted was the error07:45
regeyaOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain07:45
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: system > prefs > keyboard07:45
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: System - Prefs - Keyboard07:45
Carpe_LibertatemI'm in there =P07:45
Naliothbrownie17: so i see07:45
regeyarock on...07:45
Carpe_LibertatemBut, that's to switch between layouts, not actually edit a layout from what I see.07:45
=== alex73 [n=alexandr@63.245.124.140] has left #ubuntu ["Be]
Naliothbrownie17: dja use the sources list ubotu sent you?07:45
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: if you installed english, US, then somethings hosed your keybindings07:46
Carpe_Libertatem~~ - I removed, and added again, works now07:46
Carpe_Libertatemv_v07:46
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: aren't computers fun? ;)07:47
Carpe_LibertatemThe best. =P07:47
brownie17nalioth: um.. i think so. i can't really remember what i did, i was heaps tired07:47
brownie17!repos07:48
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:48
apokryphosbrownie17: what's the error/problem?07:48
Naliothapokryphos: 404 in synaptic07:48
brownie17apokryphos, if you look up, i accidently pasted it into this window07:48
apokryphosappears to be down07:48
apokryphosbrownie17: try updating07:49
Madpilothttp://archive.ubuntu.com is up...07:49
brownie17its updating07:49
brownie17apokryphos: nalioth: haha, i am bloody stupid07:50
brownie17it worked07:50
brownie17sorry for wasting your time07:50
Naliothbrownie17: we all suffer from that at times07:51
apokryphos=)07:51
=== AdmiralCrunch [n=quandar@71-34-38-24.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu
brownie17i have another problem though07:51
=== KillerKiwi2005 [n=jason@203-173-188-104.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
brownie17nalioth: when i try to use smeg, it lets me hide things, but not add new ones to the menus, plus i cannot add new menus, they apear fine in smeg, but whe ni close it and restart the gnome panel, they aren't there07:52
Naliothbrownie17: you using it using "sudo" ?07:52
regeyasmeg is a symptom of a larger problem.07:52
brownie17nalioth: yes07:52
KillerKiwi2005My SMEG has a "new entry" button07:52
brownie17yes.. i know07:53
regeyaoh smeg!  what the smeggin hell is smeggin going on?07:53
brownie17i used it07:53
brownie17regeya: red dwarf????/07:53
skplred dwarf? i love that show07:53
Carpe_LibertatemHmm, I sorta found a bug. The Arabic QWERTY layout is not an Arabic QWERTY layout.07:53
AdmiralCrunchKIllerKiwi2005: Me too...07:53
brownie17nalioth: don't know whats wrong?07:53
KillerKiwi2005Wel it let me add a new itme just did it then07:54
brownie17did it appear in the actual gnome panel?07:54
KillerKiwi2005yes brand spanky new "Edonkey" icon07:54
Naliothbrownie17: sorry, no07:55
=== GroMmiT1982 [n=grommit1@60-240-239-221-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
brownie17nalioth: ok, ill ask aftertaf07:55
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com, search first then file if you're sure about it07:55
brownie17aftertaf: when i create new mens and icons in SMEG, they don't appear in the menus07:55
Naliothbrownie17: there is a fella here named amaranth. he wrote it07:55
brownie17really? cool07:55
brownie17amaranth: hey, i've a problem with smeg, do you mind giving me a hand?07:56
apokryphosbrownie17: he's not here now07:56
brownie17nalioth: is there a sort of remote assistance program, like in windows XP07:56
brownie17apokryphos: oh, i thought he meant he was here nwo07:56
Naliothyes07:56
brownie17nalioth: whats it called?07:56
Naliothbrownie17: but better to retain control of your own system07:57
brownie17nalioth: yeah, but those things usually have a really easy way to cut anyone out don't they?07:57
AdmiralCrunchAnyone here use E17? If so how do you like it?07:57
Naliothbrownie17: it aint like windows07:57
brownie17nalioth: ok07:58
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone here know how to actually edit keyboard layouts?07:58
bob2e17 is rather incomplete07:58
bob2if you think you'd like it, just try it07:58
FikrannAdmiralCrunch, E17 is nothing more but a bunch of unfinished source files now.07:58
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: to do what?07:58
Carpe_Libertatembob2: I want to make the Arabic keyboard have a transliterated QWERTY layout. Same with Cyrillic.07:59
brownie17When i create new menus and icons in SMEG, they don't appear in the actual gnome menus. can anyone give me a hand?07:59
AdmiralCrunchFikrann, I've noticed there is a lot of incomplete stuff in it, I like the look, but I love GNOME, I don't think I can easily part with it.07:59
bob2that's unlikely to be trivial08:00
Naliothi hate permissions snafus on public servers (ftp.gnome.org says i dont have permission to access it's public server)08:00
bob2try #freedesktop08:00
FikrannAdmiralCrunch, you can always use it instead of the gnome wm.08:00
GroMmiT1982Noob here: Can someone tell me if Ubuntu runs ok with AMD Athlon processors?08:00
AdmiralCrunchYes it does08:01
bob2GroMmiT1982: of course it does08:01
AdmiralCrunchDo you have the XP or 64?08:01
brownie17grommit1982: you have to get a special version for 64bit proccessors i tihkn08:01
bob2no, you don't08:01
AdmiralCrunchThere is a i386 build for XP and AMD64 for well, AMD64.08:01
brownie17bob2: oh ok, my mistake, oh ok08:01
AdmiralCrunchI have a AMD64 and I still use i386. Most software is complied for it already.08:02
bob2amd64 machines can run either the i386 or amd64 ports08:02
brownie17admiral crunch, but doesn't that mean your not using your processor to its full potential?08:02
brownie17admiralcrunch, but doesn't that mean your not using your processor to its full potential?08:03
AdmiralCrunchhonestly, what application am I going to need 64 bit for08:03
AdmiralCrunchIts not needed right now08:03
Naliothbrownie17: no OS uses the processor to its full potential08:03
brownie17admiralcrunhc, then why did you buy one?08:03
AdmiralCrunchBecause it was cheap and fast08:03
brownie17nalioth, but 64 versions more so, yes?08:03
AdmiralCrunchand I like AMD, Intel sucks08:03
brownie17intel does suck, ...... i have a celeron  (*is embarressed*)08:03
Naliothbrownie17: any of em, any OS08:03
=== GroMmiT1982 [n=grommit1@60-240-239-221-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
AdmiralCrunchAlso for the future, when 64-bit computing does come.08:04
AdmiralCrunchI will be ready08:04
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I show system stats in the terminal?08:04
AdmiralCrunchWhat kind of stats, processor, hd, all? What?08:04
bob2you wouldn't, generally, since it's pointless08:04
brownie17admiralcrunch: good thinking08:04
Carpe_Libertatemall08:05
bob2dmesg, free and /proc/cpuinfo and df -h would be buseful08:05
AdmiralCrunchremember to run those in sudo08:05
bob2no08:05
bob2don't run them with sudo08:05
=== alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.125.114] has joined #ubuntu
=== GroMmiT1982 [n=grommit1@60-240-239-221-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilotyou don't need to run any of those in sudo to get results from them...08:06
AdmiralCrunchyeah, my bad.08:06
=== peterretief [n=peter@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu
=== erik [n=erik@adsl-68-127-184-208.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== pundai [n=pundai@S010600131081f1b5.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
erikhey, using breezy; I can't seem to find the 'fixed' X font, did it move into a new package?08:09
peterretiefhow do i get a cron to run without any users logged on? use root08:10
alexandroscan some help find my kde icons and of the programs I had in kubuntu now that I have converted it to ubuntu desktop?08:10
bob2peterretief: what?08:10
bob2peterretief: cron runs fine regardless of who is logged in08:10
peterretiefok08:10
regeyaerik, you brave person, testing breezy.  I salute you.08:10
=== jiggafellz [n=jiggafel@c-24-2-39-108.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Fikrannerik, you need to edit your xorg.conf, font directories has been moved around.08:10
erikregeya: :D08:11
peterretiefbob2: so the user for crontab is for .. logging?08:11
erikFikrann: you know how exactly I need to tweak it (or a doc or something)?08:11
AdmiralCrunchI think I might upgrade to breezy soon, do you guys find it stable enough yet?08:11
erikor a way to just regen it from scratch would be fine too08:11
Carpe_LibertatemWhats a good FTP client?08:11
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: the file manage08:12
bob2r08:12
AdmiralCrunchgFTP08:12
Naliothalexandros: /usr/share/pixmaps/08:12
bob2peterretief: I don't know what you're talking about08:12
bob2peterretief: stuff in my crontab runs as me08:12
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: you can do alot of FTP stuff right inside Nautilus - the file manager08:12
alexandrosLook ed but they were not there!08:12
erikah, here we go08:12
bob2alexandros: try #kubuntu08:13
erikit just didn't make a link to the misc/ dir.08:13
erikExcellent, thanks :)08:13
Fikrannerik, Nope, I forgot where they were moved (been several weeks since I last attempted to install Breezy) and the solution was trivial enough for me to find that I didn't memorize any details.08:13
peterretiefso if i need root permissions to run a process I must create a crontab -e using root?08:13
Naliothbob2: kubuntu is dead atm08:13
bob2shock08:13
alexandrosthanks Nalioth08:13
bob2peterretief: if you really need root permissions...08:13
peterretief:)08:13
alexandrosbob2: kubuntu is not as polished as ubuntu08:13
bob2as above08:14
Naliothalexandros: it's all what you make of it08:14
peterretiefthanks08:14
=== thrice` [n=andrew@unaffiliated/Thr1cE] has joined #ubuntu
peterretiefbob2:08:14
AdmiralCrunchI think I might upgrade to breezy soon, do you guys find it stable enough yet?08:14
alexandrosnopw, I was really having problemss with kubuntu08:14
bob2AdmiralCrunch: wait until preview08:14
alexandrosIt would not let me change my ip address08:15
bob2sure it does08:15
alexandrosand some toher things08:15
peterretiefhas breezy got good wireless management stuff08:15
bob2no08:15
FikrannAdmiralCrunch, make an image of your disc so you can restore quickly.08:15
=== Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.76] has joined #ubuntu
alexandroswhen i was was prompted for root password I entered my password and it acted like it was successful but then I ended up right back at the original screen08:17
FikrannHmm .. It'd be good if I'd listen to my own advices .. why the fuck I decided it's better to take apart my lappy, swap disks, install breezy from scratch is beyond me.08:17
thrice`when is preview due?08:19
peterretiefbob2: last one :)  were do I check cron logs08:20
brc_is the current breezy daily borked?08:21
brc_I get the installer could not figure out how to install the base system error08:21
brc_and I can't find a way to give it a mirror to use08:21
brc_says it can't find an installable cd, or mirror08:21
brc_suggestions?08:22
=== TokenBad [i=TokenBad@c-67-166-95-9.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilotkeep running Hoary08:23
TokenBadok...a friend installed ubuntu..but he can't hear his cd player when he plays music08:23
Naliothbrc_: breezy is broken (and will be until you see 'Preview Release' in its version number08:24
FatDarrelTokenBad, your friend might not have the cdplayer audio out cable going to his mobo08:24
TokenBadchecking on that now08:24
brc_no shit it's broken, and obviously I understand that it is in development and, surprise, needs testing!08:25
TokenBadits a g3 mac computer08:25
MadpilotFatDarrel: modern mobos (within the last two-three years) should do digital audio with no problems, I don't have an audio cable on either drive...08:25
FatDarrelTokenBad, don't know08:25
=== Xatu [i=dragon@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265] has joined #ubuntu
FatDarrelMadpilot, i can't do it08:26
TokenBadMadpilot its a g3..so so not sure if it does that08:26
MadpilotTokenBad: I know zip about Macs - might want to ask google08:26
MadpilotFatDarrel: really? how old are your mobo & CD drive?08:27
FatDarrelMadpilot, i have a dvd burner and my mobo is about 2 years old at the max08:27
=== kcidx [n=kcidx@c-67-160-21-144.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
FatDarrelanyone here run a dual opteron ?08:27
FatDarrelIs there anyway to make a really quiet / almost silent dual Opteron system08:28
MadpilotFatDarrel: my (fairly new model) DVD burner & two-three year old mobo do digital transfer...?08:28
NaliothFatDarrel: i wish. you got an extra one to loan me so i'm not underpriveleged?08:28
=== Agrajag [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
MadpilotFatDarrel: watercooling?08:29
NaliothFatDarrel: you put big enough heatsinks on the SOB, it'll be quiet08:29
AdmiralCrunchyeah, watercooling, with some good radiators08:29
=== arma [n=arma@MORIA.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothFatDarrel: apple xserve procs have no fans on em08:29
peterretiefbigger fans make less noise08:29
FatDarrelNalioth, the box has funs :)08:30
TokenBadok i am confused08:30
TokenBadanyone here use mac computer?08:30
FatDarrelthey suck air from the front to the back08:30
FatDarrelTokenBad, me08:30
NaliothFatDarrel: fan placement/size is everything08:30
FatDarrelNalioth, Yeah the Opterons are loud trying to design a new kick ass systerm08:31
NaliothFatDarrel: have you looked the the dual G5s from apple (powermacs)08:31
TokenBadwell08:31
TokenBadthe cd rom in his system08:31
FatDarrelNalioth, well it is more like heat dissipation08:31
TokenBadit just has this really big ide cable08:31
TokenBadnot even a power port08:31
TokenBadlike normal cd-roms08:31
NaliothFatDarrel: the powermacs have a plastic insert in the case, keeping hot air and cool air seperate08:31
FatDarrelNalioth, yes08:31
FatDarrelNalioth, Correct 100 virgins to you08:31
NaliothFatDarrel: i've got one. i appreciate how quiet it is (until i start compiling something)08:31
AdmiralCrunchI have a couple 120mm fans in my Antec Sonata case, with overclocked 3200+ (64) and it has temps around 40C, almost silent (Zalman Heatsink)08:32
FatDarrelNalioth, yeah do a make -j 128 and see that sucker go08:32
NaliothFatDarrel: virgins aren't any fun08:32
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
FatDarrelNalioth, you should stop there08:32
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, you OC'ed your 3200+ to what ?08:32
NaliothFatDarrel: you offered..08:33
TokenBadFatDarrel you play audio cds on mac computer using ubuntu?08:33
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, the Athlon64's are pretty quiet08:33
NaliothTokenBad: i do08:33
FatDarrelTokenBad, no I use OS X08:33
TokenBadNalioth my friend says he can't get his to play music cd's08:33
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, the opterons are really hot ... so more air thus more fans08:33
NaliothTokenBad: you'll need to do the wiki dance on fixing sound in hoary08:34
AdmiralCrunchYeah, they are quiet, its overclocked to 2.408:34
FatDarrelTokenBad, tell him to quit playing CD's and buy music from some online retailer in Russia08:34
TokenBadhe installed kubuntu by the way08:34
AdmiralCrunchI love AMD :P08:34
Hentai^NToh yeah kubuntu should be done DLing08:34
Hentai^NThurrayy08:34
TokenBadNalioth it plays sound fine...the start up sound and all plays fine08:35
TokenBadjust the audio cd's don't08:35
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, looking for a dual core  or a dual proc dual core system I am sick and tired of my single cpu not being able to handle something and do you run SCSI or SATA ?08:35
AdmiralCrunchSATA08:35
TokenBadNalioth and what you mean do the wiki dance on fixing sound?08:35
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, one guy I know says he finds SATA faster than ATA ? .... they are basically the same disks08:35
Hentai^NToh crud08:36
=== init_6 [n=init6@cpe-65-24-197-50.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilotthe data transfer rate between ATA & SATA isn't that big...08:36
init_6anyone in here use cedega with ubuntu?08:36
AdmiralCrunchFatDarrel, well, the disks run at the same RPM usally, but the data transfer rate is a bit faster, its not a huge improvment.08:36
FatDarrelAdmiralCrunch, I see, I have SATA connectors on my x86 linux box and I am wondering somwthing with it in the new future you can get cheap SATA disks now08:37
=== init_6 [n=init6@cpe-65-24-197-50.insight.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Hentai^NTknoppix or kubuntu?08:37
AdmiralCrunchI like SATA, the speed is a tad faster, the cables are much smaller, and you can RAID them even easier.08:38
NaliothTokenBad: there are several entries on the wiki and forums for ubuntu sound hoary08:38
AdmiralCrunchConsidering most SATA motherboards already have RAID on them.08:38
NaliothTokenBad: if he hears sounds fine, then theres a mechanical reason CDs dont work08:39
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
AdmiralCrunchI am considering getting a 300GB SATA drive for my system. 140$ at Newegg.08:39
thellamai just bought that one08:39
thellamamaxtor right?08:39
thellama15 meg cache08:39
AdmiralCrunchYep08:39
thellama*1608:39
thellamaI love it08:39
AdmiralCrunchI need to get one of those, I am running out of space for my live music08:39
thellamabut I payed 250 for it... :(08:40
AdmiralCrunchoooh...ouch08:40
FatDarrelI just burn my  crap to DVD much better08:40
thellamahow can i undo the last synaptic installation?08:40
MadpilotAdmiralCrunch: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html <-- a lot of the "SATA RAID" installed on mobos isn't really raid...08:40
thellamai installed kde and all dep. but i dont want it (blushes)08:41
thellamahow can i undo?08:41
armais there a web interface to see which packages are available in hoary universe?08:41
AdmiralCrunchIf its not RAID it acts like it, serves its purpose, so its not a problem to me.08:41
Madpilotarma: packages.ubuntu.com08:41
thellamaanyone?08:42
MadpilotAdmiralCrunch: read that page, a lot of it doesn't work properly on linux, apparently - do you already use it?08:42
FikrannIs there dedicated reiserfs dump/restore or will standard one work?08:42
AdmiralCrunchI have 2x 120GBs mirrored on my DFI Lanparty GT08:42
thellamasomeone help...08:42
=== redtech [n=redtech@unaffiliated/redtech] has joined #ubuntu
AdmiralCrunchIf I remember right, its the Promise chipset08:43
armamadpilot: great, thanks. and packages in hoary universe are called stable and not ever changed except for security updates, and even those aren't promised since it's universe?08:43
AdmiralCrunchwait, I have to check, brb08:43
Fikrannthellama, use synaptic.08:43
thellamai did08:43
thellamahow can i undo08:43
Nalioththellama: is your HD not big enough?08:43
TokenBadNalioth: thanks..will try it08:43
thellamasort of08:43
thellamait's on an old ibook08:43
Madpilotarma: not sure of the exact policies, to be honest08:44
Nalioththellama: use synaptic, search for 'kde' remove what you like08:44
thellamaokay...08:44
AdmiralCrunchAlright, I just looked at the motherboard manual, it says NVIDIA, I suppose that would make sense considering its a NVIDIA based motherboard08:44
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
thellamabut there's no way to just automatically select everything i just installed Nalioth?08:45
=== nalioths_dog [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Nalioththellama: not to my knowledge08:46
armamadpilot: ok. thanks.08:46
thellamaokay, thanks Nalioth :)08:47
thellamabye y'all08:47
=== markuman [n=markuman@p5092752C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
markumanhi. powernowd is for AMD and what is for Intel???08:48
armaah, one other question. do most hoary users have hoary-backports in their repository list? or do most just use stable?08:48
markumanboth08:49
=== Crimguy [n=matt@ip70-176-159-221.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Madpilotarma: I use hoary-extras but not backports08:49
nalioths_dogarma, i dont use extras or backports08:49
syn-ackBackports are evil08:49
syn-ackWell, they can be, that is08:49
nalioths_dogoh wait, i'm talking out of the wrong mouth08:50
armaok. thanks.08:50
syn-acknalioths_dog: What, you dont think so?08:50
syn-ackIve run across on some major breakage on Debian at least with Backports.08:51
Naliothi think backports and extras need to be handled carefully (esp soon after a release)08:51
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-134-235.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== delmonico [n=delmonic@p54AEE9A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
armaright. in this case hoary universe ships with a program with some major security problems,08:51
=== peterretief [n=peter@196.7.130.34] has left #ubuntu []
armaand the developers of that program consider it obsolete and aren't maintained that tree anymore (it's 8 months old)08:52
ompaularma, which program is that?08:52
armator08:52
syn-ackWhat the hell is tor?08:52
Madpilot!info tor08:52
arma(i've been talking to security@ubuntu about it, but i'm trying to get a feel here for what's going on with it)08:52
ubotutor: (anonymizing overlay network for TCP), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 0.0.9.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 765 kB, Installed size: 1980 kB08:52
syn-ackah08:53
=== markuman [n=markuman@p5092752C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu []
Naliothanother tool to be misused by script-kiddies08:53
=== pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
syn-ackLooks like.08:53
armawe added a newer version to hoary-backports, but it doesn't sound like this solves the problem of "hoary user apt-gets tor and uses it and is insecure and doesn't know it"08:53
pefhello08:53
armai guess i'll see what the security team wants to do.08:54
syn-ackSince Ive never heard of that app, much less used it, I cant comment on it, so...08:54
syn-ackarma: Hell, I would just have it taken out of the repos altogether. How popular of an app it is?08:55
ompaularma one plus is that while it is in universe it is not the kind of thing that is widely used08:55
Naliothhad one in here t'other day, join, flood (in another channel) and be dissed, over and over08:55
syn-acks/it is/is it?08:55
armado they remove packages from hoary universe? they seemed hesitant to just remove it.08:56
Madpilotarma: breezy will have the new (hoary backports) version in in - http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tor&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&page=3&number=5008:56
armamadpilot: right08:56
Madpilothoary being frozen, I suspect they wouldn't want to yank something outright08:57
ompaularma, well the ccorrect way to do it is to patch the broken version test it and pass out a security alert08:57
ompauland not in that order :)08:57
syn-ackMadpilot: yeah, thats a good point08:58
armaompaul: we put out the security alert weeks ago. we've stopped maintaining the 0.0.9.x tree though, since it's 9 months old now.08:58
=== Crimguy [n=matt@ip70-176-159-221.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaularma, ahhh08:58
armaompaul: we put out a patch for the 0.1.0.x tree, and the 0.1.1.x tree, and told people that 0.0.9.x was now obsolete. so ubuntu is sort of in a bind.08:59
=== paranoid_ [n=paranoid@3E6B9749.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Firetech [n=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulyeap, and maybe not might test and force an upgrade to 0.1.009:00
armawell, testing or not, i know of many security and crash bugs in 0.0.9.2 and they're all fixed in 0.1.0.1409:00
armaso holding it back because they want to test it seems sort of backwards.09:01
=== chavo [n=chavo@78.sub-70-197-188.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== protok0l [n=protokol@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== hyphenated [n=cgilmour@202.72.195.36] has joined #ubuntu
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0521.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu
=== tommi^ [n=tommi@line-10712.dsl.kpo.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== gendibal [n=gordon@82.153.117.48] has joined #ubuntu
=== jcoxon [n=jcoxon__@81-178-189-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
protok0lyo all09:08
protok0li need help adding the unoffical repos to synaptic09:08
syndprotok0l: edit your sources.list09:08
protok0lthe wiki article seems to be for a earlier version09:09
Madpilotprotok0l: you using Breezy already?09:09
=== ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-137-14.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu
=== Whistler [n=whistler@85.206.161.9] has joined #ubuntu
=== Adross [n=drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothprotok0l: unofficial repos can break your system09:10
=== Agrajag [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
protok0li just wanna install mp3 and dvd and java support09:13
Madpilot!restricted09:13
ubotuI heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:13
Madpilotprotok0l: see the URL above ^^^09:13
tommi^Hi. I'm soon going to have an external harddrive (300gb) and I'm wondering how should I partition it. I need to have a partition that is encrypted and used for backups of my home directory (50 gb should be way more than enough). That I know how to do but what about rest of the space? I will be using it for storing some bigger files which I use regularly. It should also be possible to hook it up on a windows machine. Which type the rest o09:13
tommi^f the space should be and is it feasable to use smaller partitions instead of one big one (250gb)? Thanks09:13
=== mejobloggs [n=chatzill@ip-210-54-30-48.watchdog.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
mejobloggshey, has anyone here set up svn on ubuntu?09:14
=== Fikrann has
Madpilotmejobloggs: I'm using it to access other people's stuff (Ubuntu doc team) but haven't done anything but the basics...09:15
=== paranoid_ [n=paranoid@3E6B9749.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Avoid]
mejobloggsyeah, thats ok09:16
Madpilotactual installation is dirt-simple09:16
=== mjog [i=mjg@continuity.home.vee.net] has joined #ubuntu
mejobloggsi installed it, but i dont know how to do anything else09:16
Adrossanyone here have a mic and want to help me with making a commercial for an imagenery movie for my english extension project? If so, please join #adross09:16
mejobloggsi shall explain what im doing09:16
FikrannGawd, what a fuck-up of a sysadmin I am .. trying to bash progs like cpfs.reiserfs into submission instead of using good old cpio09:16
Fikrannmejobloggs, go grab svn ebook ..09:17
mejobloggsI have a local ubuntu server with svn installed, and on my windows pc, i have tortoisesvn. So I have got this far, but i dont know how to go on09:17
protok0lit says it couldnt stat source package list09:17
mejobloggsFikrann: I have looked at that, but i cant figure it out09:17
Fikrannhttp://svnbook.red-bean.com/09:17
FikrannChapters 5 and 6 have all info you need.09:17
protok0lnm got it09:18
=== Cashel [n=non@0-1pool52-215.nas19.portland1.or.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu
protok0lnope, didnt get it09:19
protok0llol09:19
protok0lsame error09:19
mejobloggsFikrann: ok, i shall read it again :)09:19
protok0lwhat should i do09:19
protok0li need java like a crackhead needs a fix09:19
nalioths_dogprotok0l: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:20
CashelHello! Is there a second CD for Ubuntu 5.04? The download section on the web lists only install and live cds, yet the base-install deal lets you choose to scan a 2nd CD? Also I'm getting pangora (sp? something related to gnome) errors when I try to run X w/ what looks like a good .conf to me.. any ideas/comments would be appreciated...09:20
Madpilot!java09:20
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:20
Whistleri am getting slow download speeds at  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com can i change to eu?09:20
Whistleror any other country?09:20
Whistlercause the speeds are terrible09:21
NaliothWhistler: they're all slow09:21
WhistlerNalioth  with my 2mbit line all i get is max 90Kb/s09:22
Fikrannmejobloggs, it's a bit confusing for the first time I do agree .. but really simple. Run svnadmin create, edit your config file, run svnserve09:22
Whistler=[09:22
=== Demitar [n=demitar@2122142507-WEBTECH-OREBRO-NET.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #ubuntu
NaliothWhistler: feller in here whallago wanted on the us. repos, cuz his was slow, too09:23
Whistlergrr.. now i am getting only 19Kb/s09:23
mejobloggsFikrann: svnadmin? where is that?09:23
NaliothWhistler: turn off your pR0n downloads, and it'll get faster...    ;)09:23
mejobloggsheh09:23
protok0li'd like to install other stuff too09:23
Madpilothah09:23
WhistlerNalioth i turden everything off09:24
protok0lany idea whats up with me error, i selected the other repos straight from synaptic09:24
Whistlerturned09:24
Whistler:)09:24
=== Cashel ponders... linux v porn?? Can I realy live w/ out either?
=== aburrent [n=guerrero@adsl-68-127-151-223.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
Whistlercan i change this  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com to http://eu.archive.ubuntu.com09:24
Whistler?09:24
aburrentanyone know how to install flash for mozilla?09:25
Naliothsure thing09:25
MadpilotWhistler: yes, or just leave out the country suffix entirely09:25
NaliothWhistler: or just take off any prefix09:25
Madpilot!tell aburrent about flash09:25
Whistlerso i can use http://mycountry.archive.ubuntu.com09:25
Whistler?09:25
aburrentMadpilot, huh?  is it a secret?09:25
NaliothWhistler: no. use just plain ubuntu.blah.blah09:26
Madpilotaburrent: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu with a URL?09:26
Whistlerk09:26
=== arma [n=arma@MORIA.MIT.EDU] has left #ubuntu []
aburrentMadpilot, oh..ok..nothing yet09:26
Madpilotaburrent: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- in case ubotu doesn't deliver (do you have all /msgs turned off?)09:27
aburrentMadpilot, I'm somewhat of a n00b with irc...how do I turn msgs on/off?09:27
Madpilotaburrent: depends on your irc program09:28
aburrentim using x-chat..09:28
aburrentoh09:29
=== svizzero [n=svizzero@host37-94.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
aburrentMadpilot, I see...it did send a message09:29
aburrentthanks09:30
Madpilotabydos: no problem09:30
Madpilotanyway, need sleep. good night/morning/whatever, eveyone09:30
=== gendibal [n=gordon@82.153.117.48] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
aburrentgnite09:31
=== Madpilot [n=yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.111.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== chibifs [n=chibifs@68-78-181-184.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Gyoza [n=gyoza@pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mypapit [n=mypapit@60.50.41.134] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulaburrent,  /umode +CE is that what you want09:36
ompaulaburrent, ohh and don't hang out in the channels where the messages are coming from :)09:36
FikrannHmmm.. I wonder why I keep expecting to hear a DDS drive whine up every time I archive something with tar... ;)09:36
ompaulFikrann, auto suggestive technique after too many years of sitting beside a server at backup time?09:37
=== ompaul is now known as dds_drive
dds_driveclick whir whir whir click whirrrrrrrrrr09:38
=== dds_drive is now known as ompaul
=== Fikrann stuffs DDS cleaning cartridge into ompaul's mouth. ;)
=== ompaul loves the sound of tapes tensioning in the morning
=== ompaul removes all sadness from his life by thinking about the big breakfast that I will have within the hour
=== lurah|off is now known as lurah
FikrannYeah .. I quite regret I can't put a tape drive in my lappy.09:40
ompaulFikrann, but you could get a portable tape drive to sit on the parallel port, oooohhhhh yeah09:41
Naliothompaul: and the parellel to usb connector....09:41
=== ompaul puts Nalioth on udev just to see how he likes it :)
FikrannWell .. I'd rather stuff it in the router in place of never-used CD drive :}09:42
Naliothkeep it under 50 joules, please09:42
=== X7C [n=xtc@pc-63-24-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
RedGhosti followed http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#linux exactly09:43
RedGhostbut when i click the limewire icon09:43
RedGhostnothing shows09:43
RedGhostand i installed java runtime with firefox plugin09:43
ompaul!guide09:43
ubotuompaul: I haven't a clue09:43
RedGhoster09:43
RedGhost#limewire09:43
ompaul!ubuntuguide09:43
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.09:43
ompaulwhy can't I connect to the tracker for torrenting my hoary iso09:44
NaliothRedGhost: use gtk-gnutella09:44
=== aeolist [n=aeolist@ppp-229-031.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothompaul: tracker is down?09:45
ompaulbumber09:45
RedGhostok ill check it out09:45
ompaulbummer even09:45
apokryphosompaul: you know of a better guide for installing limewire on ubuntu?09:45
=== tvelocity [n=tony@ipa175.1.tellas.gr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
ompaulapokryphos, no, but I have seen so many complaints about I looked this up on u/guide09:46
Naliothapokryphos: i don't advocate java apps09:46
apokryphosompaul: there is really no other guide for limewire, so I'd recommend u/guide there09:46
=== stiev [n=stiev@adsl-63-192-209-164.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaul!limewire09:46
ubotuwell, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire09:46
ompaulhaha09:46
apokryphosNalioth: odd. Your loss. =)09:46
Naliothapokryphos: gtk-gnutella is a functional equivelant09:47
apokryphosI'll try it out, but I haven't found anything that matches Limewire in functionality, for gnutella network09:47
RedGhosti just tried to install it09:47
RedGhostwith those steps09:47
mypapitapokryphos, gtk-gnutella.. ;) i use them.. and it's fine..09:47
RedGhostdidnt seem to work for me09:47
=== mattyJ [n=X@oh-clevelandheights-cdnt1-bg2c-224.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== apokryphos downloads
=== ompaul sings the choral work 'java is evil, at least 63.7% of the time' :)
=== chibifs [n=chibifs@68-78-181-184.ded.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu []
Whistlerompaul me joins the chorus09:49
Whistler:)09:49
Fikrannompaul, IMO java's evil at least 150% of the time.09:49
apokryphosIt can be evil, but let's not remove its strengths. It's generic, and easier to program than some other things. 8)09:49
=== Nalioth doesnt program, he just has to watch his system drop a gear or two when java engages
ompaulits statically typed, and this is bad(tm)09:50
apokryphosNalioth: that's often because many of the java apps you'd use are pretty featureful09:50
apokryphosAzureus, Limewire09:50
=== Nalioth doesnt use those, esp azureus
Naliothazureus is devil-spawned09:51
apokryphosNalioth: which java apps made you go down a gear?09:51
apokryphosNalioth: it's the most featureful Bittorrent client09:51
=== Bjoern-Erik [n=unknownn@66.84-48-25.nextgentel.com] has joined #Ubuntu
Naliothin the past, azureus, limewire, comic archive viewers, etc)09:51
=== ompaul is sorry he can't stay for the flame war but food calls and hunger on this scale can't be ignored
=== Fikrann prefers Python. Try writing a true full featured web app server, like Zope, in Java ..
=== ompaul is now known as ompaulAFK
Naliothazureus can bite me09:52
aburrentany programming language that blithely encourages the programmer to forget about intelligent resource management is of limited use09:52
Naliothi'm only expressing my opinion09:52
apokryphosNalioth: erm, so you just proved my point. You did use htem both.09:52
ompaulAFKaburrent, I C09:52
aburrent"oh don't worry memory management...we'll handle it...the same way...for every app..one size fits all..sweep the problem under the rug"09:52
Naliothand only cuz there aint but a few of us in here alive09:52
Naliothapokryphos: i've used all kind of things09:53
Naliotheven tho i aint owned a PC in over 3.5 years, i still run windows programs on fearful occasions09:53
apokryphosaburrent: that's your opinion, but it's pretty obvious that it decreases development time, increases programmer-productivity09:54
apokryphosNalioth: so far gtk-gnutella looks ok09:54
apokryphosugly, but has the basics. Cool.09:54
aburrentapokryphos, it works for some apps...often the apps grow in complexity to the point where not handling resource management yourself explicitly limits the performance of your app09:55
apokryphos(unlike Qtella, which seems to do anything but actually work)09:55
Naliotha functional equivelant09:55
Fikrannaburrent, so you believe C model of "I'm so ellastic you need to tell me what a byte is" is best?09:55
aburrentim not saying it doesn't have uses...but java is sold as the one true programming language...it isn't09:55
apokryphosaburrent: seems that no big application shave suffered from such a limitation; including Limewire.09:55
aburrentFikrann, or maybe c++ with STL.09:55
apokryphosNalioth: indeed09:56
Fikrannaburrent, ah, I misread you ..09:56
=== shinu [n=blu@cpc1-walt2-6-0-cust197.popl.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu []
aburrentc++ with STL is my poison of choice...add boost to the mix and you are approaching the ease of other languages like java and python...but with the internals a mere pointer dereference away if you needto get down and dirty09:58
=== Sil4kka [n=sepe@a80-186-215-36.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
Fikrannaburrent, the funniest thing with Python is that you practically never need to 'get down and dirty'.09:59
apokryphosOk, I'm out for now. Au revoir.10:00
aburrentFikrann, to be fair, I haven't given python an honest shake.10:00
nalioths_dogwoof10:00
Sil4kkacould someone help me with installing my graphics card drivers10:01
aburrentwuts the problem?10:01
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkawhen i run the installer from root terminal, it says something like: you're running an X server10:02
Sil4kkahow do i exit the server10:02
aburrentdo you need to exit the server to install?10:02
Sil4kkayep10:02
Sil4kkawait...10:03
=== Carpe_Libertatem [n=esenthie@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== malvo1 [n=macca@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
aburrentalt ctrl backspace...but that will kill your x-server...beware10:03
Sil4kka ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before10:03
Sil4kka         installing.10:03
nalioths_dogSil4kka, dont do that10:03
Sil4kkai get that10:03
aburrentyou x-server is your windowing system10:03
aburrentalt-ctrl backspace will kill it10:03
aburrentbut everything goes by by but a shell prompt10:03
nalioths_dogSil4kka, hit ctrl-alt-f310:03
Sil4kkaok ill try it...10:04
aburrentcya10:04
Whistlerem10:04
aburrentclose all your apps10:04
Naliothdont kill your x, cycle to another login window10:04
=== dennis__ [n=Bleh@68-186-49-71.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
Whistlerhow do i open ports in my ubuntu?10:04
Sil4kkanalioth what do you mean10:04
Whistleri dont use any firewall10:04
NaliothSil4kka: hold the ctrl key, press teh alt key and hold it, then press f310:04
aburrentNalioth, what does that do?10:05
NaliothSil4kka: ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back here10:05
Naliothyou all have 8 login shells on your ubuntu boxen10:05
aburrentbut the installer is complaining that an X-server is running10:05
Naliothctrl-alt-f(1-6) get you a terminal, while ~f7/8 are for X10:06
aburrentis that going to stop all x-servers?10:06
Naliothaburrent: if you ctrl-alt-backspace, it'll just restart the xserver10:06
dennis__Guys10:06
dennis__!cd burning10:06
ubotudennis__: I haven't a clue10:06
=== spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
dennis__Whats a good cd burning tool?10:06
dennis__!cdburning10:06
ubotudennis__: Are you smoking crack?10:06
Naliothdennis__: k3b10:06
dennis__keb/10:06
dennis__HMm10:06
dennis__!k3b10:06
ubotudennis__: I haven't a clue10:06
dennis__:/10:06
Carpe_Libertatem!burning10:07
ubotuCarpe_Libertatem: Do they come in packets of five?10:07
dennis__Uboto sucks10:07
Naliothdennis__: its !info k3b10:07
spiralhi10:07
dennis__!info k3b10:07
ubotuk3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB10:07
Carpe_Libertatem!info xen10:07
dennis__I'm in gnome10:07
dennis__any gnome ones/10:07
dennis__I don't like kde programs :o10:07
Carpe_LibertatemK3b should work in Gnome, no?10:07
Naliothk3b is the best one available. period. you can use gnomebaker or graveman10:07
dennis__k10:07
Carpe_LibertatemI don't know why KDE is so popular.10:08
Carpe_LibertatemIs the only reason it came out fist10:08
Carpe_Libertatem?10:08
NaliothCarpe_Libertatem: what does kde look like?10:08
Carpe_LibertatemCrap?10:09
Carpe_Libertatemand XP10:09
=== malv [n=malv@pool-71-103-7-181.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Carpe_LibertatemKDE was popular before XP was out though, no?10:10
Fikrannk3b is _the_best_ CD burning application available. No other program offers such good interface.10:10
=== rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu
aburrentnite all10:10
=== Carpe_Libertatem falls asleep
=== Sil4kka [n=sepe@a80-186-215-36.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== znh [n=hans@dsl-212-84-153-132.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-69-224-19-59.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
znherr.. why is all my memory in use? - I have only running bash without X running!10:12
Sil4kkawhen i did that ctrl-alt-f3 and ran the installer it said: nvidia-installer must be run as root10:12
nalioths_dogSil4kka, so use sudo when running it10:12
FikrannThat, Amarok and Kontact are three KDE based programs that are clearly superior than other programs in their categories.10:12
Fikrannznh, what does free -m show to you?10:13
znhFikrann: Total 758, Used: 75210:13
=== Liz [n=Liz@static-203-87-81-158.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
FikrannHow about -/+ buffers/cache:  line?10:14
=== Liz [n=Liz@static-203-87-81-158.nsw.chariot.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
znhFikrann: total 1223 used 0 free 122310:14
Fikrannnot swap, but buffers. The middle line.10:15
znhFikrann: when I am watching 'top' everything seems to be cached - what's this about?10:15
Myrttierm.10:15
chavoznh, it's a conspiracy10:16
znhchavo: hmm.. don't know that word yet :-] 10:16
znhFikrann: middle line: used 45 free 71210:16
Fikrannznh, I bet that 95% of your RAM are filled with the disk buffers.10:16
chavoznh, linux will use all available ram as a cache10:16
chavoyou will see almost no swap usage10:17
znhchavo: that's right10:17
znhso i's a good thing?10:17
znh*it's10:17
chavoyes10:17
znhyaay *blinks*10:18
Sil4kkanalioth i tried like: sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run10:19
NaliothSil4kka: why are you not using the nvidia drivers from the repos?10:20
znhNalioth: yeah.. that would be allot easier10:20
Sil4kkaehhh how10:20
Sil4kkafrom synaptic?10:20
Nalioth!tell Sil4kka about sources10:20
znhSil4kka:synaptic is a hard way.. try  openning a terminal and typ it like we are going to tell you10:21
Sil4kkaok10:21
NaliothSil4kka: znh is pulling your leg10:21
Sil4kka?10:21
NaliothSil4kka: you can use whatever method you are comfortable with10:21
Myrttithose of you who like podcasts, what podcast client are you using to get the streams?10:21
znhNalioth: not very kind :P10:21
Naliothznh: we are a "help" channel here10:22
znhNalioth: and I am a "helper"10:22
Naliothwe are here to teach people to fish10:22
znhNalioth: I am just telling him that the terminal is also a way to get the nvidia packages10:22
znhNalioth: most people find out that it's way faster and easier10:23
=== bluesceada [n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada] has joined #ubuntu
cyphasehow do i fix evolution when it crashes every time i run it10:23
DemitarYou want to install linux-restricted-modules-* and nvidia-glx, and use the nvidia x11 driver.10:23
NaliothSil4kka: synaptic is a point and click interface to apt-get. aptitude is a console frontend to apt-get.10:23
cyphasei think it's data corruption10:23
NaliothSil4kka: apt-get can be run by itself (without a frontend)10:23
Naliothznh: the floor is yours10:24
skplcan someone tell me what this error means? \eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument10:24
znhNalioth: aight.. I am sorry that I told it a bit wrong..10:24
Sil4kkacould someone explain it to me now, what do i exactly need to do10:24
Demitarskpl, what command are you running?10:25
znhSil4kka: sure, but I don't know if Nalioth wants to tell it10:25
skplDemitar: eject10:25
Demitarskpl, just "eject" with no arguments?10:25
skplyes10:25
=== spektr [i=aleph0@M976P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu
znhSil4kka: first, we need to add some new places to get packages from10:26
Naliothznh: you are more familiar. i dont run intel hardware10:26
znhNalioth: so do I10:26
DemitarYou might want to run it with the -v flag to find out which the "default" device is. (And try "man eject" if you want more specific information.)10:26
Myrttierm. that podcastclient?10:27
Sil4kkago on znh10:27
znhSil4kka: in order to get root access, we need to open a terminal and typ 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'10:27
Fikrannznh, try eject /dev/hdc if you have IDE cd drive ...10:27
=== wickedpuppy [n=wicked@cm10.epsilon163.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu
znhFikrann: wrong guy10:28
Fikrannznh, sorry10:28
znhFikrann: np10:28
=== faked [n=faked@83-65-250-75.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu
Fikrannskpl, try eject /dev/hdc if you have IDE cd drive ...10:28
DemitarFikrann, skpl: If you want to eject a cdrom device "eject cdrom" should work as well.10:29
Sil4kkaznh now it opened the source.list with the text editor10:29
znhSil4kka: great, how add the following lines10:29
znhdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:29
znhdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:29
FikrannDemitar, true.10:29
znhSil4kka: *now10:29
znhNalioth: anyways.. why do you think I am running intel hardware?10:30
lunitikznh: if he doesn't know how to add it himself... you likely dont' have to tell him about source repo's... it will just slow down his apt-get update process10:30
Demitarznh, Sil4kka: Isn't the nvidia modules in restricted anyways? Which should be enabled by default?10:31
fakedI have a small problem with my syslog, it logs all messages to all virtual terminals. How can I bring syslog to log only in one virtual terminal?10:31
lunitikDemitar: ye10:31
znhlunitik: Demitar: they aren't by default in the sources10:31
Sil4kkaznh i add the lines and save the file?10:31
lunitikznh: I know.. he still doesn't need the source repo...10:31
=== jcoxon [n=jcoxon__@81-178-189-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
znhlunitik: sharp indeed..10:32
Demitarznh, still, he doesn't need multiverse.10:32
znhDemitar: then what repo does he need?10:32
Demitarznh, restricted, which he already should have.10:32
Naliothznh: what? i havent owned intel hardware in over 3 years10:32
lunitikDemitar: most users wish to use things like java... so multiverse should be activated for most10:32
lunitiks/java/flash10:32
lunitikjava is in extras though10:32
znhNalioth: you said "you are more familiar with intel hardware"10:33
Demitarlunitik, still, that's not what it's all about anyway. :)10:33
znhSil4kka: exit the editor, and typ 'sudo apt-get update'10:33
Naliothznh: i said "You" were more familiar. i only own macs (for the past 3.5 years)10:33
Sil4kkaznh do i save the file?10:33
znhSil4kka: that would be nice10:33
lunitikDemitar: what is it about then? Users main requirements involve full web support... flash is popular online...10:34
Demitarlunitik, the original question was about nvidia x11 acceleration if I didn't misunderstand.10:34
Sil4kkaznh, done10:34
lunitikDemitar: nvidia stuff is installed by default...10:35
=== sexcopter8000m [n=james@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikDemitar: its a depends of linux-restricted-modules-*10:35
znhSil4kka: now we have to fetch the drivers, and a tool that does the configuration part10:35
Demitarlunitik, that was what I suspected as well. :)10:35
znhSil4kka: first, typ 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'10:36
lunitikznh: thats installed by default10:36
znhlunitik: negative10:36
lunitikSil4kka: ignore znh and view  the following site10:36
znhlunitik: or has it been added last days :/ ?10:36
lunitik!BinaryDriverHowto10:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, binarydriverhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto or ask !Display !Resolution !ati !nvidia Please use /msg <your_question> to avoid flooding the channel10:36
lunitikor just !nvidia10:36
lunitik!nvidia10:37
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:37
znhlunitik: the standard nvidia drivers doens't have 3D Acceleration10:37
znhlunitik: and 'ignore znh' is _not_ kind at all!10:37
znhdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:37
lunitikznh: all you have said is misinformation... pointing him at the correct page on the wiki is more useful10:38
lunitikznh: nvidia drivers are in restricted _NOT_ multiverse!!!10:38
=== merhojt [n=merhojt@h194n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
znhlunitik: they were never in restricted when I tried to install the nvidia drivers.. also ubuntuguide.org confirms that10:39
Naliothwow10:39
Demitarlunitik, pointing fingers and shouting doesn't help either. :)10:39
NaliothSil4kka: if you go to ubuntuguide, come in here and get a 2nd opinion on anything you find there b4 you follow it, it can lead you to a broken ubuntu10:40
lunitik!ubuntuguide10:40
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.10:40
=== mode/#ubuntu [+o Nalioth] by ChanServ
Sil4kkaznh i did what you said, it unpacked some file from the ubuntu cd10:41
lunitikDemitar: I wasn't pointing fingers or shouting... I was simply trying to speed up the process of a user getting help... and limiting miss information10:41
znhSil4kka: aight.. then they weren't in multiverse anyway (what changed last days :/!)10:41
lunitikznh: They certainly aren't in multiverse10:41
=== DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
znhSil4kka: ok, the drivers are installed but not configured yet - this can be done by installing the nvidia-settings package10:42
Demitarlunitik, I understood your intention, but I doubt that's how it would be interpreted by znh. :)10:42
lunitikDemitar: znh isn't giving correct help... I was trying to limit Sil4kka's misinformation10:42
Seveaslunitik: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct10:43
lunitikSeveas: I've read it10:43
znhangels all around me..10:43
lunitikSeveas: thanks though10:43
Seveasthen adhere to it and be polite10:43
lunitikSeveas: /ignore me... kthanx10:43
Demitarlunitik, as I said I understood, and the facts I'd agree with, but the tone it was said was not appropriate.10:43
=== syn-ack [i=Matt@ip68-228-38-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Seveaslunitik, no, as operator I cannot do that and let you mess up the atmosphere in here again10:43
lunitikSeveas: I'm sure other ops can judge my conduct well enough10:43
Naliothlunitik: ya might not like how you're ignored .. .. ..10:43
Sil4kkaznh where do i get the settings package from10:44
Seveas!info nvidia-settings10:44
ubotunvidia-settings: (Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 491 kB, Installed size: 1008 kB10:44
znhSil4kka: at the same way you have fetched the nvidia-glx package, just by typing 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings'10:44
Seveasthey're also in restricted10:44
Sil4kkaznh, done10:45
lunitikSeveas: I used to help more than most... you messed up the atmosphere more than I ever did... however if you want to discuss that... feel free to /msg me about it10:45
znhSeveas: very odd.. always when I had to install the nvidia-glx packages, they weren't in restricted for me10:45
Demitarlunitik, the worst part of it being that it might discourage znh from helping, he might have been misinformed but he was very helpful with what information he had.10:45
znhSil4kka: great, last part: sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable10:45
Seveaslunitik, read back the log of this channel and see where you're wrong10:45
=== ml267 [n=ml267@c-67-168-155-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasyou've been in here three times in the last 5 months. three times you made problems10:45
lunitikSeveas: My stay in the Ubuntu community is already limited because of you...10:45
ml267what's the fastest way to check the version of an installed ubuntu system?10:46
=== dwk [n=dwk@wbs-146-191-231.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkaznh, it says: sudo: nvidia-glx-settings: command not found10:46
dwkHello folks10:46
lunitikSeveas: I've been here since the preview release... you're the only person that keeps me from helping more10:46
Naliothml267: in a terminal, type "uname -a"10:46
znhSil4kka: my bad10:46
SeveasI'm not limiting anyone who behaves properly, so either behave or begone10:46
znhSil4kka: it's sudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:46
dwkAnyone here able to help with disk partitioning on install?10:46
ml267Nalioth, it doesn't say10:46
lunitikSeveas: You make this channel hell to help in... just because I am not polite to people giving misinformation?10:47
wickedpuppydwk just ask pls ...10:47
Naliothml267: what does it say?10:47
v1ru5anyone here able to figure out why my mouse is preventing gnome from launching??10:47
=== liable [n=linux@dialup-172.189.220.203.acc01-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
znhSil4kka: one little explaination about 'sudo' - it's a portal to the root user, it gives a process all the permissions.. only use this when people tell you in this channel!10:47
Naliothlunitik: thre are other ways to point these things out10:47
ml267Nalioth, well, it's running the 2.6.10 kernel... might have been locally built10:47
lunitikSeveas: You'll be glad that to hear that you are the single reason I will be using SUSE when it is released though. You rule as an op10:47
Sil4kkaznh, it says x needs to be restarted, how do i do that, log out or restart or something?10:47
Naliothml267: then i'm not sure, but 2.6.10 is hoary, i believe10:47
lunitikSil4kka: /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:48
Seveaslunitik, if that means you won't be making problems in here again, I can only be glad10:48
znhSeveas: I'm getting pissed..10:48
ml267Nalioth: so there's no ubuntu equivalent to /etc/debian_version ?10:48
Naliothml267: did you try that?10:48
lunitikSeveas: it also means one more clueful person leaves the Ubuntu community10:48
Naliothml267: im not a tech like others in here, more of a talented user10:48
Sil4kkalunitik: i get * Starting GNOME Display Manager...          [fail] 10:48
lunitikSeveas: at least 2 other ops in here agree with me that you are hard to deal with.10:49
Seveaslunitik, name them10:49
ml267Nalioth: what does 3.1 debian correspond to for ubuntu?10:49
lunitikSeveas: /msg me10:49
Naliothlunitik: all that has been pointed out to you is that you need some thought of your communication skills10:49
syn-ackml267: it doesnt, really10:49
znhlunitik: at least 300 people in here might agree that Seveas is not hard to deal with10:49
=== Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_away
Demitarlunitik, people are not machines and cannot be treated as such, you have to consider the feelings as well as the facts.10:49
Seveasznh, there are only 286 people in here ;)10:49
syn-ackml267: they arent really interchangeable, without breaking a lot of stuff.10:49
Naliothml267: i dont think there are direct comparisons. ubuntu releases every 6 months10:49
Sil4kkaznh, how do i restart X?10:49
=== barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.240] has joined #ubuntu
SeveasSil4kka, /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:49
lunitikznh: most of those 300 people haven't been here as long as the people that hold my point of view10:49
ml267Ooooh, I just thought of an idea... I can check the apt sources list!10:50
znhSeveas: some might be sleeping10:50
ml267as long as it hasn't been futzed with10:50
syn-ackml267: It was originally based off of Deb Sid though.10:50
Sil4kkaseveas i just did that and it said: gnome display manager not running, starting GDM...  [fail] 10:50
lunitikSeveas: I told him that... X failed at restarting... so something is wrong with his nvidia configuration...10:50
znhSil4kka: hit ctrl+alt+backspace, that will restart the X server (it will go a bit fast, like it crashes)10:50
Naliothlunitik: i agree with you that sometimes Seveas can be a little harsh, but you DO need to work on your communication skills10:50
lunitikznh: NO... something is wrong with his configuration...10:51
lunitikznh: he needs to post his /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere to see what might be wrong10:51
znhlunitik: he didn't tell anything about a wrong configuration.. only that he had to restart X, and that's normal10:51
v1ru5does anyone know how to get an optical USB logitech mouse working in linux? (it prevents gnome from launching - and it works if you unplug it when you power up, let linux launch and then plug it but it's FUCKING ANNOYING to do that.)10:51
ml267Nalioth: looks like it is in fact hoary.  thanks10:51
=== rendi [n=asdasd@202.6.224.178] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothml267: np10:52
v1ru5*in ubuntu10:52
SeveasSil4kka, put your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the pastebin please10:52
rendiguy's how to play *.wma file10:52
Seveasrendi, install w32codecs and use mplayer or titem-xine10:52
Naliothv1ru5: watch the lingo, please10:52
lunitikNalioth: thats a given... and I realize this... but making a helpful member of the community go else where is hardly the way to deal with it...10:52
=== xukun [n=xukun@gt1989.uvt.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkaseveas: pastebin?10:52
rendity10:52
SeveasSil4kka, paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:52
Naliothlunitik: mind your behavior, and he'll mind his.10:52
v1ru5Nalioth: yah well i've asked this question for days here and nobody says anything but robotgeek who isn't here right now10:53
znhSeveas: why do you think that he has a wrong X configuration?10:53
Naliothv1ru5: cussin aint gonna get answers out of the ignorant10:53
v1ru5Nalioth: and there are more advanced problems solved here so why anyone doesn't know a shiznit about mouse configuring10:53
Seveasznh, X not starting usually means wrong setting/driver10:53
znhSeveas: he didn't say anything about that10:53
v1ru5Nalioth: would you happen to know how to fix that?10:53
Naliothv1ru5: have you been to the forums or hit the mailing list(s)?10:53
Sil4kkaseveas,znh: i g2g AFK for a while ill do that when i get back10:53
lunitikNalioth: I have tried to explain to Seveas that I am not someone to confront in a disrespectful manor... I have also asked him to discuss this in private... neither of which will he comply with...10:53
Seveas * Starting GNOME Display Manager...          [fail] 10:53
v1ru5Nalioth: nah, i hate mailing lists but the forums could be help.. where are they?10:54
znhSeveas: oh.. he didn't use highlighting..10:54
znhv1ru5: on the internet10:54
v1ru5znh: hahahahaha10:54
Seveasv1ru5, ubuntuforums.org10:54
v1ru5znh: LOL10:54
Naliothlunitik: i have seen what has gone on tonight. YOU should work on your communication skills.10:54
v1ru5znh: ROFL HAHHAHHHEHEHEEHEHEE10:54
v1ru5znh: bad one.10:54
Naliothv1ru5: wiki.ubuntu.com10:54
znhv1ru5: sorry.. bit mad10:54
v1ru5btw any idea why gnome doesn't want to put 1024x768 on anymore?10:55
v1ru5it did it before i launched up fluxbox one time10:55
znhv1ru5: is there a mode line for that resolution?10:55
v1ru5:/10:55
Nalioth!tell v1ru5 about resolution10:55
v1ru5no it onmly displays 640x48010:55
v1ru5BUT, it displayed em all before10:55
lunitikNalioth: my reaction to Seveas is due to prior encounters with him... however I was simply trying to point Sil4kka in the right direction, and told him that znh is mininforming him...10:55
znhanyways I am not going to help anyone anymore.. since I am not helpfull10:56
syn-ackv1ru5: You have to fix your applicable resolutions.10:56
rendiwhat mean ioctl dif1:invalid argumen ??10:56
Naliothlunitik: yes, but you've been told by several people in here what their opinions of all this has been10:56
=== mmtb [n=marcin@dvt32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
Juhazlunitik, you know, there's this old saying: treat others how you would like to be treated10:56
rendii wanna play cd with mplaye10:56
rendiand err like that10:56
=== mmtb [n=marcin@dvt32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Juhazlunitik, if you keep treating others disrespectfully, you don't have the slightest right to whine when others also treat you disrespectfully10:56
lunitikznh: wrong stance to take.... help if you are sure you know the answer... but if you aren't 100% sure... then you do more harm than good10:56
znhlunitik: oh that makes me feel good10:57
=== mode/#ubuntu [+b %lunitik!*@*] by Seveas
Seveaslast time you pissed us off10:57
=== erics [n=erics@cohan.cs.kun.nl] has joined #ubuntu
stievok, i'm using a 4port KVM switch for 2 (k)ubuntu boxes and two win boxes... why do i have to be switched to the current ubuntu box for it to load the mouse and the display properly?10:57
Seveasznh, don't feel bad, we appreciate the help from anyone who is polite10:57
Naliothlunitik: work on your communication skills10:57
rendiSeveas can help me10:58
=== lunitik [n=trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [requested]
Demitarlunitik, znh: That's plain silly, you can be 100% sure and be completely wrong. (Better to try and offer your advice and let others fill in.)10:58
=== mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] by Seveas
=== mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*trey@*.cox.net] by Seveas
=== stephank [n=stephank@ip503dc86f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== erics [n=erics@cohan.cs.kun.nl] has left #ubuntu []
Seveasrendi, what's the problem?10:58
rendii wanna play cd with mplayer10:59
rendiand the err like this ioctl dif1:invalid argumen ??10:59
Seveasone second10:59
Naliothstiev: depending on the kvm, you shouldnt (some dont tell all the boxen there's a kb and video attached at boot time)10:59
=== [RedWire] [n=RedWire@203.41.13.244] has joined #ubuntu
rendiok11:00
Sil4kkaSeveas: i'll put all of the xorg.0.log and the other file to the pastebin?11:00
SeveasSil4kka, that would help11:00
Seveasrendi, how did you start mplayer, I didn't know it could play cd's :)11:00
=== syn-ack [i=Matt@ip68-228-38-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
rendilol11:00
rendiput cd on cdrom11:00
rendiopen mplare11:00
=== syn-ack kicks his internet connection
rendimplayer11:00
znhSeveas: Sil4kka: sorry for interrupting.. but what does uname -r gives as output?11:01
stievNalioth: thanks- it's not that big of an issue cause i keep them up all the time... just one of those annoying things11:01
rendiand file open cd rom11:01
rendithat is11:01
rendior play vcd11:01
Sil4kkaznh just type that to the terminal? i got 2.6.10-5-38611:01
Naliothstiev: some of the more pricy kvms report devices to all the boxen, even though only one is active11:01
rendii have file on *.wmz but can't display that picture only sound play11:01
rendiwma11:01
znhSil4kka: ok, that woulden't a problem then11:01
Seveasrendi, wma is audio only..11:02
topylii forget: how do you set the "sticky bit" or something on a dir such as /home/pub/pics so that it's read/write for everybody in the 'users' group whoever adds pics to it?11:02
znhrendi: windows media audio11:02
Naliothrendi: some modern microsoft media wont play no matter how hard you try11:02
rendiarg11:02
=== syn-ack wont use anything thats DRM capable at all
znhrendi: no reason to 'argh', there might exist applications to convert them to mp3 files11:03
rendii just get that cd from amazon and only sound :(11:03
rendiit is black eye peas11:03
rendino picture11:03
rendiheh11:03
znhrendi: black peayed eyes?11:03
Naliothsyn-ack: then i guess you are walking and living in a box?11:03
rendiyup znh11:03
topyliblack eyed peas11:03
stievNalioth: it's an IOGear MiniView. not that that means anything, but i don't have this problems with any other computers i've plugged it into (including Lindows)11:03
rendii have spend $17 and onlye get sound ......11:04
syn-ackNakkel: um no, I just use formats such as mp3 and .ogg11:04
Naliothstiev: hmm thats funny. i have an iogear (something) and my ubuntu doesnt have a problem...11:04
=== neighborlee [n=neighbor@d23-73.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Sil4kkaseveas: now they should be in the pastebin11:04
Sil4kkaseveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184311:04
znhrendi: well tbh.. .wma stands for 'windows media audio' - this will never give any video..11:05
stievNalioth: can ubuntu be configured as a file/print server?11:05
=== mode/#ubuntu [-o Nalioth] by ChanServ
Naliothstiev: yes it can11:05
=== bina [n=bina@81-179-123-68.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
syn-ackSil4kka: Wow, you11:05
stievNalioth: How do I go about doing that?11:05
syn-ack're missing most of your config11:05
v1ru5lol, back @ windows. at least microsoft knows their shit about compatibility :)11:05
topylistiev: of course. i have a windows client who has all their files here, plus printing. the keyword is sambqa11:06
topylisamba even11:06
znhv1ru5: what do you mean by that?11:06
Naliothstiev: not sure. i dont print.11:06
v1ru5and that's just something (compatibility, i mean) linux will take years and years to accomplish11:06
Naliothstiev: have you looked at the wiki?11:06
syn-ackv1ru5: No, they dont. They make their own "standards" and ignore actual standards. Now stop trolling11:06
Naliothstiev: wiki.ubuntu.com11:06
=== IceDC571 [i=Ice@c-24-4-178-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
v1ru5znh: well all your hardware works on it11:06
v1ru5syn-ack: yep well nevertheless it works. you're just jealous :)11:06
znhv1ru5: have you tried an onboard soundcard like AC'95, doesn't work on windows.. works on linux!11:07
binav1ru5: all my harware works on here11:07
stievNalioth: Not too much- I've really just started with Linux/Ubuntu yesterday, so I'm really a n00b11:07
syn-ackI happen to run windows on my primary workstation11:07
=== Madeye [n=Jad@213.186.185.105] has joined #Ubuntu
=== OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D1F33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
Madeyeguys, how to unzip 500 zip file at once?11:07
topylistiev: do you have linux or windows clients?11:07
Naliothstiev: start here wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation11:07
=== azeem [n=mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== azeem [n=mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has left #ubuntu []
topylistiev: actually it doesn't even matter, i would use samba anyway11:08
znhMadeye: cd in that directory and typ unzip *11:08
binaIs there some way to archive old mail in Kmail?11:08
Madeyecaution: filename not matched:  adige_ceug.zip11:09
Madeyecaution: filename not matched:  apsuwa.zip11:09
Madeyecaution: filename not matched:  diaspora.zip11:09
stievtopyli: both- 5 Win XP sp2 (2 wireless); 1 Win2k Prof (Wireless); 2 Ubuntu; 1 Win 9811:09
=== messju [i=messju@unaffiliated/messju] has joined #ubuntu
topylisamba it is11:09
znhbina: I don't have any expierence with Kmail, but you might want to find out were Kmail saves the mailes, and tar it manualy11:09
stievlol11:09
topyliit's your only choice :)11:09
binaznh: k, will try that.  thanks11:09
messjuhi, what wlan-pcmcia-card is recommended/good for ubuntu/hoary? orinoco?11:09
znhbina: welcome11:09
syn-ackI generally fun WinXP Pro on all the Workstations, save the Linux dev box and the AD server, and then linux on everything else11:10
stievi'm thinking about turning that 98 box into a file/print server, and so far ubuntu is the easiest distro to use11:10
=== znh did some good..
syn-acks/fun/run11:10
Sil4kkaseveas: you there? did you already look at the files11:10
Naliothbina: mail files are just text, so use a compressor of your choice11:10
rendiguys what about play *.wav file11:10
rendiuse mplayer or totem ?11:10
messjurendi: I'd use xmms11:11
znhrendi: bplay is a very good one, if you need some more stuff on your screen you might like 'xmms'11:11
=== HappyFool [n=user@tedo-ip-nas-1-p307.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
syn-ackrendi: neither is going to do very good, with out the codecs installed.11:11
topylistiev: that works too, the linux box can use the client part of samba. but i would not make any sort of server on w98 :)11:11
binaNalioth: k thanks.  Searching out where theyre hiding how :)11:11
rendiok ty11:11
znhbina: I bet Kmail saves it in ~/.kde/applications(orsomething)/kmail11:11
=== tommy_h [n=tommmy@129.240.123.205] has joined #ubuntu
=== __filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has joined #ubuntu
Naliothbina: look in your ~./kde folder to start (unless you have a ~/.kmail)11:12
stievtopyli: yeah, that option is out the window!11:12
znhNalioth: ha you damn mind reader!11:12
topylihah11:12
Sil4kkacould someone else take a look at those config files, seveas seems to have gone somewhere11:12
stievthanks topyli & Nalioth- hopefully I'll see you guys on soon. Time for me to turn in11:12
znhSil4kka: I have a better idea11:12
binaznh, Nalioth: success. Thanks11:13
__filip_i know about winmac_fstab, that add my windows and mac partitions into my fstab. Is there something like that but it add my ext3 partitions?11:13
rob^topyli, there is one type of server you could make on a window98 box: a honeypot11:13
topylistiev: so, if it's a slow box, you will install ubuntu with the "server" option and have a bare-bones install. then just add the services you want11:13
=== jcoxon [n=jcoxon__@81-178-189-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkaznh: tell me11:13
znhSil4kka: what about backing up the current configuration, and let nvidia-glx-config make a new one?11:13
topylirob^: nah, you want win2k for that. the modern worms and viruses won't even work on w9811:13
stievtopyli: yeah, 333Mhz is pretty slow!11:13
Sil4kkaznh: how?11:13
topylistiev: that's mighty fast11:13
znhstiev: 333mhz.. that's VERY fast11:14
=== Raskall [n=rolfas@topof.ronningveien.net] has joined #ubuntu
znhstiev: I wish i had such proccsor in my head :-D11:14
topyliheh11:14
messjuis there anything better than orinoco for pcmcia-wlan? (won't repeat, promised! :)11:14
znhSil4kka: (backupup:) sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup11:14
Nalioth__filip_: how did you get a ext3 after the fact?11:14
topyliznh: all you need is some gin11:14
stievtopyli, znh: yeah, but it still loses to my 3.2GHz every time!11:14
__filip_a make an new partition.11:14
topylistiev: sure, but you're talking about a samba file/print server11:15
znhstiev: I woulden't feel the difference.. only in slow wm's such as gnome _o_11:15
HappyFoolanyone else using the acroread_5.10 package from multiverse (hoary, x86) ? I think the install is incorrect (as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1832.html)11:15
rob^saftey in obsolescence.. I could make a few bucks with that security strategy ;)11:15
Sil4kkaznh: done11:15
znhSil4kka: allright, now lets run that tool again: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:16
stievtopyli: yeah, i'll see soon enough. well, eventually anyway11:16
topylistiev: happy hacking!11:16
Sil4kkaznh: what now, it says again: X needs to be restarted11:16
Nalioth__filip_: then you should be able to add it to your fstab by mimicing existing entries, adding in the new drives info11:16
znhSil4kka: that's a good thing, try restarting it :)11:16
=== Aric [n=Septor@EATcf-374p101.ppp15.odn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu
znhSil4kka: oh wait, teh stupid I am11:17
topylihah11:17
=== znh slaps hisself
stievznh: i only feel the difference when trying to play movies- although the 333MHz box does have an ATI All-IN-Wonder Pro11:17
stievtopyli: thanks!11:17
znhstiev: well yeah.. that's a important thing!11:17
__filip_Nalioth: how can i do that easy?11:17
znhSil4kka: remove the current config by typing: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:18
Nalioth__filip_: open your fstab and have a look at it11:18
stievnight all-11:18
znhSil4kka: after that, run the wizard xorgconfig by typing: sudo xorgconfig11:18
Nalioth__filip_: dont change anything, just look11:18
=== nfinitep1astik [n=p1astik@c-24-10-111-92.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
__filip_Nalioth: okej11:18
__filip_what should i do next?11:19
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu
__filip_Nalioth: what next?11:21
znhSil4kka: how's the status?11:22
Nalioth__filip_: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"11:22
Sil4kkaznh: it's asking what kind of monitor i have and stuff like that11:22
__filip_okej11:22
znhSil4kka: great!11:22
__filip_you whant the results?11:23
nfinitep1astikanyone know to properly exract bz2 files using tar?11:24
znhnfinitep1astik: yes, tar -xvjpf11:24
Nalioth__filip_: no, compare the results with your fstab11:24
Sil4kkaznh: ehh, i dont have my monitor manual anymore, and it says check the monitor database /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors to see if your monitor is there.11:24
nfinitep1astikznh: sankyuu11:24
Sil4kkaznh: but there isnt a /doc/ folder there11:24
znhSil4kka: hmm ok what's your monitor called?11:25
Sil4kkaznh: i dont know :S11:25
=== messju [i=messju@unaffiliated/messju] has left #ubuntu ["thanks]
znhSil4kka: I bet there's a model number on it somewhere (mostly on the back or on the front)11:26
Naliothnfinitep1astik: tar xvjf filename.tbz11:26
nfinitep1astikNalioth: thanks ^.^d11:27
Naliothnfinitep1astik: tar xvjf filename.tar.bz211:27
Sil4kkaznh: i think its: Digital PCXBV-FZ11:27
=== spola [n=fstr@kotnet-150.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu
znhSil4kka: ok perfect, will do a search11:27
nfinitep1astikyeah, thank god for autocomplete  because azureus has the longest name @.@11:27
nfinitep1astiker..the bz2 file name.....11:28
wickedpuppybtw anyone here using breezy ?11:28
wickedpuppyor upgraded to breezy ?11:28
=== GNULinuxer [n=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu
LaserLineHello, anyone here managed to Install Beagle on Hoary with RaserFS /11:30
znhSil4kka: it can handle max resolution of 1280x1024, that's all I can find out, horSync and versync are the default I think11:30
znhLaserLine: *reiserfs?11:31
LaserLineznh Yup, Typo ...11:32
znhLaserLine: np11:32
Sil4kkaznh: what is the default for them? there's 11 different options to choose from11:32
LaserLineI followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto and this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto but I get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/183011:32
znhSil4kka: hmm.. hsync should be number 9 (31.5 - 79)11:33
=== z0unds [n=kenan@x1-6-00-e0-18-de-7f-16.k380.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkaznh: should i choose this then:  9  31.5 - 79.0; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz11:34
znhSil4kka: that's number 9 indeed11:34
Sil4kkaznh: what about vertical sync then11:35
znhSil4kka: number one11:35
spolahow do i make it that when you doubleclick the menubar the mindow gets minimized?11:35
=== weo [n=weo@p5499D627.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== [DF2] [i=DF2@220-245-73-125-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
znhspola: what window manager are you using?11:37
Sil4kkaznh: where can i find my video card video memory amount11:38
znhSil4kka: what videocard have you got?11:38
wickedpuppyznh, won't it be much better for you to ssh into his box?11:38
Sil4kkaznh: Nvidia geforce ti4200 64mb11:38
spolaznh, gnome11:39
znhwickedpuppy: then we might have to configure a hardware firewall11:39
wickedpuppylol11:39
wickedpuppykk kk11:39
znhSil4kka: then it's 64 MB11:39
znhspola: System->Behaviour.. unsure.. haven't used a slow wm since a few months11:40
=== arachnion [n=arachnio@d51A49FA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
arachnionhello there everyone11:40
znhhello arachnion11:40
arachnionI've been here a couple of times before11:40
spolawhat do you use?11:40
arachnionsound problems11:40
arachnionI'm just gonna try again:11:40
Sil4kkaznh: now it saved the conf file11:41
=== KillerKiwi2005 [n=jason@203-173-188-104.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
arachnionI have an onboard AC97 sound card, and I don't seem to be getting any sound11:41
arachnionI have unmuted all channels, chmodded the device ok, and changed all sorts of configuration files11:41
znhspola: xfce4 was pretty awesome, fluxbox is very fast but not a great navigation.. window maker is quite good and fast, evilwm is way too buggy, KDE is user friendly but asks quite many system resources11:41
HiddenWolfarachnion, have you tried opening all mixer channels?11:41
=== ragesoss [n=Sage@68-118-190-206.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
arachnionnothing seems to work11:41
arachnionyes HiddenWolf11:41
znhSil4kka: aight very good11:42
HiddenWolfarachnion, using Hoary I presume?11:42
arachnionyes11:42
topylihow to set the sticky bit on a dir so that new files all have specific permissions?11:42
znhSil4kka: now, run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' again11:42
spolaill check some out11:42
HiddenWolfarachnion, any idea what kind of sound chip exactly? what kind of motherboard? old? new?11:42
arachnionall rather old11:42
Sil4kkaznh: i get Error: your X configuration has been altered.11:42
arachnionthat's my audio card11:43
znhSil4kka: hmm.. what's the full error?11:43
HiddenWolfSil4kka, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - in section device replace 'nv' with 'nvidia' - that's all the nvidia script does.11:43
HiddenWolfznh, nothing serious.11:43
znhHiddenWolf: thanks11:43
Sil4kkaznh: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184511:43
HiddenWolfSil4kka, then, save and restart X.11:44
KillerKiwi2005Will Klik be in breezy ?11:44
znhHiddenWolf: might sound a bit assy.. but please ask before interrupting :P11:44
arachnionHiddenWolf, ...?11:44
znhSil4kka: ah that errror11:45
HiddenWolfznh, I was under the assumption that any advice given here would be welcome.11:45
=== k0p [n=dark@81.193.18.222] has joined #ubuntu
nfinitep1astiki guess i dl'ed a self extractly binary file for java...but it doesn't seem to be extracting nor does sun's site help any11:45
znhHiddenWolf: sure, I don't say that11:45
nfinitep1astikextracting*11:45
k0phi all :)11:45
=== mz2 [n=matias@cpc2-cmbg9-4-0-cust13.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
HiddenWolfarachnion, best find out exactly what motherboard, what chip, and google a bit.11:45
ragesossQuestion: How do I set a workgroup/domain name for Ubuntu?  When I installed regular Debian, at one point I was prompted for such a name, which I put as the same as my Windows workgroup, and as soon as it was up and running I had access to the shared material on the Windows computer.  But during my new Ubuntu (5.04) installation I was never prompted for anything like that.11:45
znhSil4kka: typ 'sudo md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum11:45
znh'11:46
arachnion:( ok, ty HiddenWolf11:46
=== _vince_ [n=vince@80-219-97-43.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
HiddenWolfarachnion, sound infrastructure was revamped quite a bit in the development version, might be that it works in breezy, but I can't really advice you to upgrade at this piont.11:46
arachnionok11:46
Sil4kkaznh: i put sudo tee /var/lib/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum, and got: file or folder doesnt exist11:47
HiddenWolfarachnion, IE, it might help, it might not, and it might well be that it'd work at default but due to edited config files it won't still.11:47
znhSil4kka: well then do what Hiddenwolf said..11:47
arachnionah11:48
arachnion:(11:48
arachnionI forgot to back some of em up11:48
arachniongot some, not all11:48
HiddenWolfarachnion, do you have a seperate /home?11:48
arachnionyes11:48
arachnionI think so11:48
arachnionwhat do you mean 'separate'?11:48
HiddenWolfseperate partition.11:48
arachnionno11:48
arachnionnot *yet*11:49
HiddenWolfNot to sound snobby, but get that. :)11:49
arachnion;)11:49
arachnionI know11:49
arachnionI have a partition waiting to be fstabbed11:49
Sil4kkahiddenwolf,znh: now i replaced the nv with nvidia11:49
arachnionbut, I want sound first.11:50
HiddenWolfarachnion, what you can do is pop in a Breezy-live cd, and see if sounds works there for you, if you have some -rw's lying around.11:50
znhSil4kka: ok11:50
arachniondon't have any rw's, I don't mind "wasting" an r11:50
nfinitep1astikrm -rf always solves my problems......}=D11:50
Sil4kkaznh: how did i restar x again11:50
=== angelus__1969 [n=Angelo@cp868196-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Sil4kkarestart*11:50
znhSil4kka: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:51
angelus__1969can I (and how) use the external VGA on a laptop as a seperate desktop under Ubuntu??11:51
=== terrex [n=terrex@84-122-80-108.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu
HiddenWolfarachnion, Might be more that one, if the daily is broken. but if it works in breezy, then all you have to do is dist-upgrade. If it doesn't, file a bug. :)11:51
HiddenWolfarachnion, sorry to be of so little help btw.11:52
arachnionmaybe, I'll dist-upgrade, and reinstall ubuntu if it doesn't work11:52
Sil4kkaznh: i didnt notice at first but when i put " sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" i got: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:Authentication Rejected11:52
znhangelus__1969: can you give some more details please11:52
arachnionIt's a fresh install anyway11:52
=== rendi [n=asdasd@202.6.224.178] has joined #ubuntu
rendiguy's i'm back11:53
rendi:o)11:53
Sil4kkaznh: reason : None of the authentication protocols specified  are supported and host-based authentication failed.11:53
rendicdda:///dev/hdc <== what mean this ??11:53
=== TiffOn [i=user@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
rendii can't play that file in dir in xmms11:53
znhSil4kka: odd.. but that has not anything to do with the nvidia drivers I think11:53
znhhi rendi11:53
nfinitep1astikrendi:  it's not music11:53
HiddenWolfarachnion, you might want to see if you can get crimsun to help you but he's usually around in 8-10 hours. (the guy that maintains alsa among other things)11:53
angelus__1969znh, it's a Compaq presario 1722, running Ubuntu 5.04 and I want to use the external VGA as a seperate desktop, preferably with it's own resolution, like a dualhead setup11:53
Naliothangelus__1969: have you been to the wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  yet?11:53
rendiis music11:53
=== rp78 [i=rufinojr@210.1.86.157] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderis there a samba channel?11:54
rendiand filetype is *.wav11:54
arachnionyes, HiddenWolf, someone has advised that for me before11:54
znhangelus__1969: hmm yeah I understand now11:54
arachniontimezones are a bit of a problem for that11:54
rendii can play with cd player but can't with xmss11:54
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== arachnion lives in europe ;)
rendiznh can help me11:54
=== nfinitep1astik bows before znh's might
spolayo guys i have a problem: my "ISP" requires me to log on using a webmail interface, which means that everything that needs internet can't execute at boot time (ntp but also when x starts xchat, gaim, torrents etc...) now i now what wget command i need to type, but how do i make it happen right after getting my address ?11:55
znhrendi: can you please tell me what your problem again is?11:55
=== barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.240] has joined #ubuntu
HiddenWolfarachnion, but in any case, if you could test it on breezy, live or installed, that'd be good. if it doesn't wok out of the box there, you should file a bug so that A you get help, and B it gets fixed.11:55
angelus__1969Nalioth, yes, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for11:55
rendiouw11:55
arachnionok Hiddenwolf11:55
arachnionI'll try Breezy11:55
arachnionand post the bug if I need to11:56
youngcoderdoes anyone know of a samba help channel?11:56
arachnionanyway11:56
=== bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-39-69.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== housetier [n=housetie@dsl-084-056-145-158.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
arachnionjust looked it up, Breezy should be stable by october?11:56
rendii have file on cdda:///dev/hdc11:56
rendiand how to play that file on xmms11:56
rendiis *.wav11:56
znhrendi: ok moment, have to help parents with there MS Windooz11:56
rendiok11:56
HiddenWolfarachnion, best of luck, and sorry.11:57
=== Nalioth is now known as Nalioth_zZz
=== Kaiser_away is now known as Kamping_Kaiser
arachnionHiddenWolf, no problem11:57
z0undswhat would be the best partition type? (to have games on and play from)? ext2?11:58
znhrendi: ok, back11:58
Seveasspola, in the /etc/network/interfaces file, add a line saying 'post-up wget http://,,,,,,'11:58
rendigod news ?11:58
znhrendi: god news :D11:58
rendi:o)11:58
znhrendi: hdc is your cdrom device?11:58
rendiyup11:59
rendii put BEP on it11:59
=== Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A19144.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
znhrendi: and what's on that cdrom? (what kind of audio/type)11:59
rendiwav11:59
arachnionbbl11:59
rendii can play with cd Player but can't with xmms11:59
=== merhojt [n=merhojt@h194n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
znhrendi: ok, first make a directory in your home directoy by typing 'mkdir ~/cdrom'12:00
rendiand then12:00
=== mumbles [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
znhrendi: mount it with your cdrom device with 'sudo mount /dev/hdc ~/cdrom'12:01
HappyFoolrendi: have you set the xmms output to esd? (esound) ?12:01
znhHappyFool: I don't think that's the prob12:01
Nalioth_zZzznh: why dont you have rendi symlink /media/cdrom to his homedi?12:01
rp78hi all, i installed xmms. where do i find it? it's not automatically added to the applications menu12:01
znhNalioth_zZz: because I want to explain how to mount cdrom devices.. then people would know how things work12:02
HappyFoolrp78: it should be under applications -> sound & video12:02
Nalioth_zZzznh: ah12:02
znhNalioth_zZz: but I understand your point of view12:03
rendimount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only12:03
rendimount: you must specify the filesystem type12:03
rendierr like that12:03
znhrendi: mk.. does /media/cdrom exist?12:03
=== znh grins at hisself
rendiyes12:04
nfinitep1astiklol12:04
rendimedia/cdrom$12:04
znhrendi: aight, is it bound to the cdrom?12:04
=== nalioths_dog [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
rendi?12:04
rendiwhat mean bound ??12:05
znhrendi: does /media/cdrom contain your cdrom files12:05
rendinothing12:05
rendiis blank12:05
=== albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu
znhrendi: hmm ok, can you post your /etc/fstab on pastebin?12:05
rendimy file on cd sit in this dir cdda:///dev/hdc12:06
znhrendi: I think xmms has troubles accessing that place ;)12:06
rendii think too12:06
rendisoo how to tell xmms in right place12:06
HappyFoolrendi: you said 'cd player' can play the cd?12:07
rendiyes can12:07
rendiis autoplay12:07
znhHappyFool: I think he means directly, without motherboard12:07
HappyFoolyou cannot, as far as i know, mount a music CD as a filesystem12:07
Nalioth_zZzrendi: when a cdrom is in your machine it will also show up in /media/cdrom, cdrom0 or cdrom1, etc12:08
=== angelus__1969 [n=Angelo@cp868196-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
nfinitep1astikyou cant mount cdfs?12:08
LaserLineHow do I enable Extended User Attributes on ReiserFS ? and Hoary... ?12:08
HappyFooli recommend checking that xmms works at all (e.g., with sounds in /usr/share/sound) and then try the 'CD play' option again12:08
rendiusualy is /media/cdrom12:08
rp78are there filipinos here12:08
rendibut today in cdda:///dev/hdc12:08
HappyFoolrendi: is it a normal music CD ? one you can put in a CD player?12:09
=== ragesoss [n=Sage@68-118-190-206.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
rendiyes normal12:09
znhthen it aren't wave files..12:09
HappyFoolnfinitep1astik: what's cdfs? someone here claimed a few weeks ago one could mount a music CD, but I couldn't get much out of him12:10
nfinitep1astikznh: then it arent?12:10
arachnion.cda12:10
znhnfinitep1astik: are not12:10
nfinitep1astikHappyFool: its the filesystem for cds12:11
rendiin xmms option i can't change to cdda:///dev/hdc12:11
nfinitep1astikznh: rofl, i was just pokin fun at your sleep deprivation12:11
rendiit always in to /media/cdrom12:11
=== AdmiralCrunch [n=quandar@71-34-38-24.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu
nfinitep1astikHappyFool: well, let me try12:11
znhyea let me cry too12:11
=== Decadent [n=variemai@ppp50-adsl-214.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu
Decadenthi12:11
znhhi Decadent .. your name is quite funny here in holland ;-)12:12
Decadent:)12:12
arachnionznh, holland? Hallo ik woon in Belgi ;-)12:12
HappyFoolI get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'cdfs'"12:12
HiddenWolfarachnion, #ubuntu-nl12:12
LaserLineAfter Installing the BEAGLE, and running 'beagled' do I need to run it manually or does it run automatically ?12:12
znharachnion: hallo ;) (english please here in this channel, some people find our dutch anonying :P)12:12
arachnionyes yes ;) ofcourse12:13
arachnionHiddenWolf, that's fine, I'm downloading Breezy as we speak12:13
AdmiralCrunchI have a tad bit of a problem right now. When I try to boot up into GNOME (I am in Fluxbox right now), I cant, even in failsafe. It says that something around xsessions, I dont exactly remember it, I am sorry for being very non-descriptive.12:13
HiddenWolfarachnion, znh, don't forget #ubuntu-nl if you prefer native-language advice. :)12:13
arachnionok HiddenWolf12:14
spolathx Seveas12:14
znhHiddenWolf: sure, but 'hallo' isn't only dutch ;)12:14
HappyFoolhmm. I can't figure out to play CD's in xmms, to be honest12:14
HiddenWolfznh, Quite aware of that. :)12:14
znhHiddenWolf: same here12:14
rendii think i have to switch to m$ and play that song12:15
=== znh gives rendi a bitch slap
nfinitep1astikHappyFool: yep, my hdc is my cdrom mounted as a udf fs12:15
=== ralphj [n=ralph@ip3e83014d.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
rp78anyone who can help me with the right version of libmad for gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.10-1ubuntu7_i38612:15
HappyFoolnfinitep1astik: udf is for dvd's, i thought?12:15
=== kairu0 [n=kairu@i211251.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu
nfinitep1astikHappyFool: it is ^.^12:15
rendibash: cd: cdda:///dev/hdc: No such file or directory12:16
rendilol12:16
rendii can open with nautilus but can't with bash12:16
nfinitep1astikHappyFool: it was the only thing with data i had on it....ever since i got my dvd-r...cd-r's have mysteriously disappeared12:17
=== yuacht [n=suker@82.193.191.5] has joined #ubuntu
=== Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #ubuntu
Nalioth_zZzask and run ask and run12:18
HappyFoolnfinitep1astik: some of us are still in the dark ages :P12:18
Seveasrendi, nautilus uses gnome-vfs12:18
HappyFoolNalioth_zZz: do you know how to play a cd in xmms ? i really can't figure it out12:18
Seveascdda:/// and other url-like files are handled by that12:18
Nalioth_zZzHappyFool: i have no clue. y'all seem to have tried it all12:20
Nalioth_zZztry file:///media/cdrom as an address12:20
nfinitep1astikso has rendi's problem been figured out?12:21
HappyFoolno12:21
nfinitep1astikrofl12:21
HappyFoolbut if you know how to play a cd in xmms, let us know12:21
rendi:)12:21
=== s00d [n=s00d@host81-153-41-83.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolNalioth_zZz: hmm, no. also /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom don't work12:21
nfinitep1astikdid we ever find out what was in his fstab?12:21
HappyFoolthere's a 'CD audio player' in the input plugins, and it tells me how many songs are on the cd, but i can't get the cd to play12:22
s00dHi. I'm trying to lock my /etc/resolv.conf as per the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690. when I enter "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf", I get this error message: "chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf" What am I doing wrong?12:23
nfinitep1astikno one have beef if i help rendi?12:23
HappyFoolnfinitep1astik: enlighten us all12:23
rendihow to enter cdda:///dev/hdc in fstab12:23
rendii mean new line on it12:23
nfinitep1astikrendi: you dont put that line it is...fstab is to identify the hardware and where it's mounted12:24
rendithis my mine /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:24
=== ralphj [n=ralph@ip3e83014d.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: what filesystem is / (or /etc) on? ext3?12:24
nfinitep1astikok, then go to your /media/cdrom012:24
rendils12:25
rendiblank12:25
rendino file12:25
rendimy file still on cdda:///dev/hdc12:25
nfinitep1astikone sec12:25
rendiok12:25
s00dHappyFool: ext3, I'm sure.12:25
arachnionHiddenWolf, writing the cd ;)12:26
=== mmtb [n=marcin@dvt32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
=== ssh_rdp [n=root@sina.ut.ac.ir] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: hrm. does 'lsattr /etc/resolv.conf' work?12:26
nfinitep1astikrendi: after iso 9660, add 'cdfs'12:26
s00dHappyFool: Same again : "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf12:27
HiddenWolfarachnion, right12:27
s00d"12:27
nfinitep1astikmake sure the comma is between iso9660 and cdfs with no spaces12:27
rendiok wait12:27
=== topyli [n=juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: ok, how about mount|grep '/ '12:27
ssh_rdpIs it possible to install ubuntu without burning the cd(I have a grub installed)12:27
s00dHappyFool : "/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"12:28
=== ompaulAFK is now known as ompaul
HappyFools00d: how about 'lsattr /bin/ls' ?12:28
rendinfinitep1astik you mean like this /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660,cdfs12:28
s00dHappyFool: "----------------- /bin/ls"12:29
nfinitep1astikrendi: yes12:29
rendidone and then12:29
nfinitep1astikrendi: you'll need to reboot12:29
HappyFools00d: puzzling.   mount|grep '/etc'         ?12:29
rendiwooow12:29
rendiwhat about without reboot12:29
nfinitep1astikno worries, we'll still be here12:29
HappyFoolnfinitep1astik: changing fstab does not require a reboot12:29
rendican remount it without reboot ?12:30
nfinitep1astiktry it12:30
s00dHappyFool: That doesn't return anything.12:31
ompaulwhere would I find the person with the authority (say it like they do in south park) or even the interest to figure out why I can't connect to the torrent service to hand away more ubuntu - kanotix is winning for the first time in months today :)12:31
=== mmtb [n=marcin@dvt32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: erk. how about 'lsattr /etc/passwd'12:31
s00dHappyFool "----------------- /etc/passwd"12:32
HappyFools00d: 'ls -l /etc/resolv.conf' ?12:33
s00dHappyFool :"lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 31 2005-09-03 00:31 /etc/resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"12:33
HappyFools00d: ah-ha12:33
s00dWhat did I do?12:33
wickedpuppyanyone got problem with System -> Log out in breezy ??12:33
=== AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: try chattr'ing the file linked to instead12:34
wickedpuppywhen i go there my menus hang12:34
HappyFools00d: although I'm definitely not an expert on this12:34
s00dUm.12:34
=== sebest [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu
s00dOh, right.12:34
s00dGotcha.12:34
=== rendi [n=asdasd@202.6.224.178] has joined #ubuntu
rendiumm dc12:34
sebesthello is there something new with restricted kernel modules on ubuntu?12:34
rendii have remount it and then ?12:35
s00dHappyFool: Nope. Still the same thing.12:35
HappyFoolsebest: in hoary? (ubuntu 5.04)12:35
sebestmy nvidia modules are no more in /lib/modules , but in /lib/linux-restricted12:35
sebestHappyFool, no breezy12:35
HappyFools00d: ok, how about 'ls -l /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf'12:35
=== mmtb [n=marcin@dvt32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
arachnionHiddenWolf, just one more question: if I have installed breezy, and my sound doesn't work, do I try to fix it, or post the bug immediately?12:35
s00dHappyFool: "-rw-r--r--  1 root root 75 2005-09-03 11:22 /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"12:36
HappyFools00d: so it looks a like a normal file on a normal ext3 filesystem12:36
=== Smegzor [n=Matthew@60-234-133-204.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
=== dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFools00d: is /etc/resolvconf or /etc/resolvconf/run maybe a link too?12:37
HiddenWolfarachnion, if it doesn't work on a clean/default install,; you can file a bug immediatly. But it's better to try and find out what causes it. IE, a muted mixer is not as bad as a missing kernel module or messed up alsa.12:37
arachnionok HiddenWolf12:37
arachnion<< installing breezy12:37
SmegzorI have installed Windows 2000 Pro on a 2nd partition and Windows insisted on de-activating my primary partition.  How do I go about getting grub back so that I can dual boot to the OS of my choice?12:37
HiddenWolfarachnion, be sure you've backed up your stuff!12:38
nfinitep1astiksmegzor: use a live cd to access your linux partition12:38
arachnionyes HiddenWolf it's fine12:38
rendinfinitep1astik and then ?12:38
Nalioth_zZzSmegzor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:38
HiddenWolfarachnion, Best of luck. :)12:38
nfinitep1astikeven better12:38
nfinitep1astikrendi: still cant acess it normally?12:39
Smegzor:D  thanks.  thats the info I was hoping you'd give me :)  I could spend all night trying to find that myself :O12:39
rendiyup12:39
=== SirSakke [i=sirsakke@p241.ip4.netikka.fi] has joined #ubuntu
s00dHappyFool: Maybe?? I don't know --> "lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2005-09-03 00:31 run -> /dev/shm/resolvconf"12:39
HappyFools00d: ah-ha12:39
=== bummba [i=sandro@62.2.174.23] has joined #ubuntu
bummbahiya12:40
HappyFools00d: i think /dev/shm is a magic filesystem12:40
HappyFools00d: check out 'mount|grep /dev/shm' -- it's type tmpfs12:40
s00dHappyFool: oh?12:40
bummbahas any of you ever encountered that gnome did not fully start?12:40
nfinitep1astikrendi: try putting a data cd for me?12:40
bummbagdm come up fine but when I try to login it hangs12:40
s00dHappyFool: Yup "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)"12:40
HappyFools00d: let me quickly scan that howto to see what you're trying to do...12:41
bummbanothing in the log12:41
=== norhted [n=norhted@85.100.60.108] has joined #ubuntu
bummbaand no idea what I could do12:41
bummbaany ideas?12:41
HappyFools00d: oh, that instruction applies if you don't install resolvconf12:41
Seveas!xhangs12:41
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five?12:41
nalioths_dogbummba, no error msgs?12:41
HappyFools00d: i think you are following step 1 -- i think step 2 is an alternative, not an addition12:42
s00dHappyFool: I uninstalled it, because that method doesn't seem to be working? :-/12:42
norhtedhi everyone, i need some help about GRUB12:42
rendiDon't Phunk With My Heart.wav12:42
HappyFools00d: oh. try uninstalling with the '--purge' option12:42
rendiLocation cdda:///dev/hdc12:42
nfinitep1astikrendi: not a music cd, a data one12:42
bummbanalioths_dog: nope...nothing in gdm log and nothing in X log12:42
Seveasbummba, login in text mode, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit12:42
Seveasand clean out /tmp12:42
bummbanalioths_dog: and all the other logs as well not12:42
HappyFools00d: are you using aptitude or apt-get?12:42
rendithis is cd music12:42
s00dHappyFool: Um. I already removed it with synaptic. Do I have to reinstall it before I do that?12:43
rendiwhat ur mean data ?12:43
HappyFools00d: hang on, let me check what the synaptic method is12:43
bummbaSeveas: ohhh maybe I should say that it doesn't behave like that all the time12:43
s00dHappyFool: Thanks12:43
nfinitep1astikrendi: anything else that's NOT music....i just need to make sure your drive is mounted correctly12:43
bummbaSeveas: just sometimes...and kill X and let it restart and try to login again won't help12:43
HappyFools00d: ok, in synaptic, find to the 'resolvconf' package, right-click and choose 'Mark for compelete removal' and the 'apply'12:43
bummbaSeveas: a real complete restart does only help12:43
Seveasbummba, do you oftern run things as root?12:44
bummbaSeveas: nope12:44
=== scanwinder [n=scanwind@CPE-60-224-192-21.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
bummbaSeveas: I use only sudo...12:44
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
s00dHappyFool: And than can I try locking my resolvconf again?12:44
bummbaSeveas: and only when it's needed12:44
nalioths_dogbummba, do you use sudo to start gui apps?12:44
scanwinderwhat are .diff files and how do i use them?(ive got 1 that patches dillo with tab and frame support)12:44
bummbanalioths_dog: nope...never12:44
HappyFools00d: yeah, though you might need to create an /etc/resolv.conf first12:44
=== pfp [n=pfp@YYYKMMMDCCCXCIX.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu
nalioths_dogscanwinder, open a terminal and "man patch"12:45
norhtedi want to add my windows to GRUB menu.lst12:45
bummbaSeveas: when I login in I see that gnome begins to start but the splashscreen does not come and it hangs at that point forever12:45
topyliis it better to upgrade to breezy, or do a clean install?12:45
=== LaserLine [n=idan_mm@199.203.36.154] has left #ubuntu []
sorush20anyone here using Lycos or Hotmail or Yahoo webmail.. well what happened to the extara editable composing features..  it all seems to be plain text now days even gmail..has anyone been using a webmail service that gives you spell checking and smiles and html formating..12:46
norhtedthe example in the menu.lst didnot work12:46
s00dHappyFool: Thank you, thank you, thank you.12:46
ompaul!grub12:46
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:46
nalioths_dogtopyli, upgrade. this is not windows12:46
HappyFools00d: heh. np ;)12:46
=== Deansweb2004 [n=deansweb@host86-134-129-156.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
s00dHopefully, no more DNS problems. :-p12:47
ompaulnorhted that ubotu stuff should be useful12:47
HappyFoolah-ha! i know how to play a cd in xmms.12:47
HappyFoolrendi: you still around?12:47
topyliNalioth_zZz: on my work box i just had a hard time. did work eventually though. also, this was not very recently, so things might have improved12:47
norhtedompaul, what is ubotu12:47
s00dIs there a good c++ bittorrent client for linux?12:47
rendiyes HappyFool12:47
ompaul!ubotu12:47
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:47
HappyFoolrendi: ok, is your music cd in the drive?12:47
rendihow ?12:47
=== Dethread [i=Boid@VPNPOOL01-0021.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu
rendiyes12:47
=== SirSakke [i=sirsakke@p241.ip4.netikka.fi] has left #ubuntu []
ompaultell norhted about grub12:48
Nalioth_zZztopyli: i just tried today with a daily on my imac, and still no dice12:48
Dethreadhi, I have a problem connecting to my university's network via VPN. Can someone help me?12:48
HappyFoolrendi: ok, first thing is to check your audio output. right-click on the xmms window (say on the X in the bottom-right corner) and choose Options -> Preferences12:48
=== falemagn [n=Fabio@adsl-143-186.38-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu
topyliNalioth_zZz: ok. btw, what the hell is "windows"? :_)12:48
nalioths_dogs00d, bittornado12:48
ompaulnorhted, I will ask the bot again and you can grab the urls from there12:48
falemagnhello12:48
ompaul!grub12:48
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:48
nalioths_dogs00d, woops, you said c++12:48
rendithen12:48
bummbahmm annoying somehow12:48
falemagnguys, is there a way to bypass ubuntu's partitioning tool at installation time? It's not able to detect the partitions on one of the hdd's I have12:48
norhtedompaul, thnx :)12:48
HappyFoolrendi: ok, what does the button under 'Output Plugin' say?12:49
ompaulnorhted, np12:49
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: what do you want it to detect?12:49
falemagnnfinitep1astik, ehm, the partitions I already have?12:49
HappyFoolrendi: just the first word or two is ok12:49
falemagnit doesnt see it12:49
rendieSound12:49
s00dnalioths_dog: Yeah, I'm tryng to see if I can avoid a python client. IT's a bit heavy on my system.12:49
HappyFoolrendi: great12:49
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: well duh =P...but what partition is it not recognizing?12:49
bummbafalemagn: what kind of partition is it?12:49
rendiand then12:50
HappyFoolrendi: ok, under 'Input plugins' (just above) do you see 'CD Audio Player' ?12:50
falemagnnfinitep1astik, it doesn't see _any_ partitions12:50
rendii see12:50
bummbafalemagn: so there is probably any :)12:50
rendiconfigure it ?12:50
fredforfaenhey peeps12:50
HappyFoolrendi: let's try; don't change anything though12:50
falemagnbummba, you'd think I know whether or not I have partitions on my hdd...12:50
HappyFoolrendi: click on that entry, and click configure12:50
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: do you have an existing filesystem on your hdd(s)?12:50
falemagnnfinitep1astik, yes, of course12:50
bummbafalemagn: hehe..does it detect the drive?12:50
rendiok12:50
falemagnbummba, it does, of course.12:51
nfinitep1astikbummba: lol12:51
HappyFoolrendi: what do the 'Device' and 'Directory' entries say? (under CD audio player configuration)12:51
bummbanfinitep1astik: the filesystem is not needed for the partitioning12:51
rendidev/cdrom12:51
=== MarkAngels [n=MarkAnge@h114n1fls32o925.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
phrizeris it generally true that linux/gnome feels less responsive than say windows XP? or just in my system? ;o12:51
falemagnI know that partition table of that hdd is somewhat non-standard, but fdisk is able to handle that drive properly12:51
rendidir /cdrom/12:51
HappyFoolrendi: ok, good12:51
rendilol12:52
rendiand then12:52
=== Elleo [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
bummbafalemagn: try cfdisk12:52
phrizerI'm finding scrolling in a window for example, is interrupting a mp3 playing. and stuff.12:52
HappyFoolrendi: click 'cancel', and 'cancel' again to get back to xmms12:52
=== pippijn [n=pippijn@ACB0334B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
pippijnhi all12:52
=== ssh_rdp [n=root@sina.ut.ac.ir] has left #ubuntu []
falemagnbummba, the problem is that I cant12:52
rendiyes12:52
reikiphrizer: mine is actually MORE respnsive, but I'm coming from an old and "dirty" WinXP installation into a fresh Ubuntu installation12:52
falemagnbummba, the problem is that I can't seem able to go past that stage in the installation12:52
bummbafalemagn: ohh shit...forgot :)12:52
HappyFoolrendi: now, right click on xmms again and choose 'play directory'12:52
falemagnwithout configuring a root directory12:52
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: by chance....you can see your hda in the BIOS right......?12:52
HappyFoolrendi: scroll up until you see 'cdrom' (under /)12:53
falemagnnfinitep1astik, I can see my hda from anywhere12:53
rendiand then12:53
HappyFoolrendi: click on that, click OK and then press the 'play' button on XMMS12:53
rendiis blank12:53
HappyFoolrendi: that's ok; it's a 'fake' directory12:53
phrizerhmm12:53
rendiok then12:53
falemagnthe problem is that the partitioning tool of ubuntu must be thinking the partition table is invalid and hence doesn't display any partitions12:53
bummbais the breezy stuff on the mirrors?12:53
=== bummba is actually no ubuntu user but installed it for his brother
bummbamaybe an update would solve the gnome startup problem12:54
MarkAngelsHi, I get timed out when I try to access ubuntuforums.org. Is it down? I need help installing a wifi usb dongle12:54
HappyFoolrendi: is it working?12:54
rendinothing12:54
bummbacan't seem to find anything on the forums about my problem12:54
=== qeed_ [n=qeed_@adsl-18-23-113.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: have you tried using fdisk?12:54
=== pippijn [n=pippijn@ACB0334B.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu []
rendiis blank12:54
rendi:)12:54
HappyFoolrendi: what's blank?12:54
rendii can't find any file on it12:54
falemagnnfinitep1astik, fdisk, as said, works. But I can't use fdisk to install ubuntu, can I?12:54
rendion /cdrom12:55
falemagnI dont need to repartition the drivers12:55
HappyFoolrendi: there aren't files there12:55
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: no but you can check your hd's integrity12:55
rendiyes12:55
HappyFoolrendi: it's just a way to tell xmms to play the music cd12:55
falemagnI just need to tell the installation program to map the partitions to certain directories12:55
falemagnnfinitep1astik, the hdd is fine12:55
HappyFoolrendi: click 'OK' in the directory selection window; you should see 'CD AUDIO TRACK 01' appear in the xmms window12:55
rendimy file on cdda:///dev/hdc12:55
=== sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolrendi: the files will not appear; you cannot use this method to rip .WAV files from the cd12:56
HappyFoolrendi: only to play it12:56
rendisame can't play with xmms12:57
rendionly cd player12:57
topylisomeone please upload on the web a good sources.list for breezy12:57
=== mypapit [n=mypapit@60.49.46.15] has joined #ubuntu
falemagnso, no way to bypass that partitioning tool?12:57
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: not that im aware of12:57
nfinitep1astikfalemagn: i've yet to encounter a problem like that12:57
HappyFoolrendi: ok, let's try one more time12:58
falemagntoo bad, no ubuntu for me12:58
HappyFoolrendi: do you have xmms open?12:58
rendiok12:58
rendiyes12:58
nfinitep1astikor just format c:12:58
HappyFoolrendi: ok, type Ctrl+L12:58
falemagnnfinitep1astik, yeah, sure :)12:58
nfinitep1astiklol12:58
HappyFoolrendi: a new window should appear12:58
rendiyes12:58
HappyFoolrendi: type    /cdrom    there, and press enter12:58
HappyFoolrendi: your CD should start playing12:59
rendiye splay12:59
rendiplay12:59
HappyFoolrendi: you should see the time changing on xmms12:59
HappyFool*yay*12:59
rendibut can't hear a song12:59
falemagnnfinitep1astik, where can I make a bug report?12:59
nfinitep1astiklmao12:59
HappyFoolchange the volume12:59
rendilol12:59
rendivolume is full12:59
norhtedompaul, i have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown12:59
rendihahaha12:59
nfinitep1astikbugzilla.mozilla.org12:59
HappyFool*collapse*12:59
falemagnnfinitep1astik, ehm, somehow I dont think thats the bugtracker for ubuntu?01:00
nfinitep1astikoh er..01:00
nfinitep1astikwhups01:00
nfinitep1astiksorry, i was helping with someone with firefox and that was my last clippy01:00
reikido some programs need certain sound systems? I mean... is it possible he's set up for alsa and XMMS is looking for oss?01:00
HappyFoolrendi: xmms has a separate sound control01:00
HappyFoolno, you said the output plugin was esound, remember?01:00
topylixmms is legacy anyway01:01
nfinitep1astikhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/01:01
rendiic01:01
rendiyes01:01
=== spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolrendi: ok, i need a cup of tea. fiddle around and see if you can get it working01:02
norhtedi have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown01:02
reiki"figddle around" is a technical term I've used often :)01:02
=== ogra [n=ogra@p5089EE09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
rendi:)01:03
reikis/fiddle/figddle01:03
rendibrb reboot my pc and switch to m$ to play my cd01:03
nfinitep1astiknorhted: is your fstab setup for it?01:03
=== mjr [i=mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
norhtednfinitep1astik, nope :( i just added the second HDD after installation01:04
nfinitep1astiki swear xmms likes to only play 20 songs out of the 1000 in the play list01:04
Seveasnorhted, put the output of fdisk -l on the pastebin please01:04
HappyFoolwell, the method to play a CD is rather obscure, imho01:05
=== aeho [n=aeho@qn-vlk-234.cable.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
norhtedSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/35350401:06
HappyFoolgah, bmp is as arcane01:07
topylireiki: "figddle" sounds a lot better in this context :-)01:07
ompaulnorhted, I am happy and unhappy with your situation, unhappy cos I can't give you an answer and happy because I don't run that other stuff :) however that being said there is an example which includes a thing called chainloader in the menu.lst so make sure you have all that example in there01:08
ompaulnorhted, with the changes that you spoke about01:08
norhtedSeveas, do you want me to paste the menu.lst also?01:08
reikitopyli: I'm figddling around with trying to get my microphone to actually be recorded in the Sound Recorder app :)01:08
=== mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu
norhtedompaul, :)01:08
ompaulnorhted, pasting that would be useful01:08
Seveasnorhted, would be helpful :)01:08
topylireiki: happy figddling ;-)01:09
reikidanke01:09
norhtedhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/35350601:09
ompaulwho is in charge of the ubuntu torrent server side (which I can't connect to) cos I would like them to check it out I can't connect01:10
reikiSeveas: I opened alsa mixer as you instructed yesterday. Tabbed to teh mic vontrols. It won't let me raise volume, however farther down there are capture controls and those are both up. I still can't get microphone working01:10
Seveasompaul, the thing is often broken01:10
Seveasreiki, try amixer in a terminal01:10
Seveasand paste the output on the pastebin01:10
ompaulnorhted, where are you going with boot?01:11
ompaulnorhted, please paste the whole menu.lst01:11
norhtedompaul, i did it01:11
ompaulnorhted, ehhhhhh that is for one operating system only - so why the grub?>01:12
Seveasnorhted, move the XP entry outide the debian automagic kernel list or you'll lose it on updates01:12
norhtedompaul, line 124 to 128 there is an xp01:12
Seveasnorhted, did you install windows after installing Ubuntu?01:13
norhtedSeveas, ok01:13
=== ompaul must be looking at the wrong pastebin
reikiSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/184901:13
norhtedSeveas, no the xp was installed the HDD long time ago. but when i am installing the ubuntu this second HDD was not attached to my computer01:13
ompaulnorhted, and remove the wood boot from that chainloader should be happy without it01:13
ompaulnorhted, s/wood/word01:14
norhtedompaul, sorry i couldnt get it01:14
=== uthini [n=uthini@myw-stp-66-18-86-113.sentechsa.net] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasnorhted, that might confuse windows01:14
ompaulnorhted, read that version01:14
norhtedompaul, do you mean `remove the boot line?`01:14
Seveasreiki, the capture for 'Mix' is off01:15
ompaulI just posted :)01:15
ompaulhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/35351001:15
=== Sybaek [n=sean@pool-71-105-43-26.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
norhtedSeveas, should i install LILO instead of GRUB?01:16
Seveasnorhted, that will not help too much01:16
Seveaswhat was the exact error again?>01:16
norhtedSeveas, what should i do then?01:17
=== yonil [n=yoni@bzq-236-43.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
mejobloggscan you guys help me with svn on ubuntu?01:17
mejobloggsi get this: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem01:17
yonilI've installed amaroK (using apt-get) and it just doesn't produce any sound ... -- any ideas ?01:17
norhtedFilesystem type mismatch or Unknown filesystem, i dont remember.01:17
ompaulyonil, does anything else create sound?01:17
=== Karhuton [n=timo@KMMMCDXVII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #Ubuntu
SybaekHow can I get my Fluxbox to be selectable in the graphical startup that Ubuntu has?01:18
=== Bobulor [n=robert@64.106.84.193] has joined #ubuntu
=== mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu
Bobulorseveas: hurray01:18
norhtedSeveas, ompaul, anyway thnx01:18
Bobulorseveas: anyway, I have two issues. My sound only selectively works, and I hate my mplayerplug-in01:19
Bobulorseveas, I have totem movie player, is there a way to make mozilla use that by default?01:19
=== youngcoder [n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== falemagn [n=Fabio@adsl-143-186.38-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Seveasnot yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for mplayer :)01:20
youngcoderanyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?01:20
Bobulorseveas, i dont know what that means but ok01:20
Seveasnot yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for *totem*01:20
HappyFooldo I report bugs in multiverse to bugzilla.ubuntu.com, or is that for main/restricted only ?01:20
Bobulorok01:21
youngcoderanyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?01:21
mxpxpoddoes anyone here use gdesklets? I'm having a problem where if I start gdesklets, it crashes X01:21
Bobulorseveas what's this breezy and hoary and other stuff i keep hearing about that I've also seen on my Synaptic program?01:21
HappyFoolyoungcoder:   sudo /etc/init.d/samba start01:21
HappyFool!breezy01:22
ubotusomebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/01:22
youngcoderHappyFool, will that start all the daemons?01:22
HappyFoolyoungcoder: that should start smbd and nmbd01:22
HappyFoolyoungcoder: you can take a look inside; (try 'less /etc/init.d/samba') -- i think it starts nmbd first01:22
reikiSeveas: turned on cature for Mix and still nothing. I'll experiment. I'd love to get this working but it's not a high priority. Some folks have more important problems01:23
reiki:)01:23
youngcoderHappyFool, it said failed01:23
youngcoderlol01:23
HappyFoolyoungcoder: then perhaps your config file is broken01:23
youngcoderlol01:23
HappyFoolyoungcoder: you did remember the 'sudo', right?01:23
youngcoderi was in root terminal01:24
HappyFoolyoungcoder: try 'restart' instead of start01:24
Bobulorseveas: every time I load a movie on mozilla, mplayer comes in and (maybe), loads the whole thing. But then it just sits there cranking away a whole-lot-a-nothing.01:24
HappyFoolyoungcoder: you can use 'testparm' to check your samba config file01:25
youngcoderi did01:25
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1409.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderit said ok01:25
youngcoderand restart passed01:25
HappyFoolyoungcoder: ah, so it was running already01:25
youngcoderyes but not working01:26
reikiSeveas: in alsamixer... if I toggle capture ON for Mix.... it UNtoggles capture for Mic. Is that normal?01:26
mumblesdammit01:26
mumblesi need to wait trill my dad drills though the wall so i can get the server online again01:27
=== kronoss [n=kronoss@FW-7-250.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu
=== scumbo [n=roberts@dsl-220-253-68-40.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderHappyFool, my windows machine still wont recognize this comp01:27
youngcoderHappyFool, do a lot of people have problems with this?01:28
HappyFoolyoungcoder: samba can be tricky to setup01:28
HappyFoolyoungcoder: can you ping the windows machine (using IP addresses)? and vice versa?01:28
youngcoderyes01:29
HappyFoolyoungcoder: ok, do you have an anonymous share in the samba config? that will let us test fairly easily01:30
youngcoderYES01:30
youngcoderoops sorry01:30
yonilompaul, yes Beep-media-player (similiar to xmms) does01:31
=== mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu
=== mypapit [n=mypapit@218.111.185.252] has joined #ubuntu
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-2-gre-82-250-47-180.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
elvirolohi01:32
=== slept [n=sebi@ACB7B568.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== haich [n=haich@81.Red-83-35-0.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
slepthello01:33
ompaulyonil, what is in /etc/issue?01:33
HappyFoolyoungcoder: ok, what does 'smbclient -L localhost' do on your machine?01:33
elvirolois it safe to upgrade to breezy ? i'm currently using it on a separate partition for testing (from a fresh install) but it was wondering if there were still issues about upgrading from hoary01:33
HappyFoolyoungcoder: just press <enter> for the password01:34
HappyFoolyoungcoder: and don't paste here ;)01:34
yonilompaul, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l<NEW LINE>You have new mail in /var/mail/yoni01:34
youngcoderlol01:34
youngcoderok01:34
youngcodergimmie a sec i got a phone call01:34
ompaulyonil, I was curious cos I could not find beep01:34
yonilompaul,  huh ? apt-get install beep-media-player01:35
yonilompaul, xmms also works fine ..01:35
elviroloideas anyone ?01:35
ompaulyonil, ehhh it helps if I also include -player :)01:35
yonil;)01:36
=== albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu
=== joh [n=joh@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolelvirolo: i think breezy is still for developers, not for end-users01:36
=== dazvid [n=dazvid@c211-28-53-202.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
ompaul!breezy01:36
ubotubreezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/01:36
elviroloHappyFool: well, it is, but they have passed the feature freeze haven't they ?01:36
sleptthis is of topic, but does anyone have expierience with beos ? I need to find bone or nfs01:36
elviroloi'm currently using breezy, and i like it, it works better than hoary here01:37
yonilanyone knows why possibly i don't get sound from amaroK ? (it doesn't seem like it even plays the song when i double click it)01:37
HappyFoolelvirolo: i don't know; however, everytime i come onto irc there is someone with a weird new breezy problem01:37
=== joee [n=jhiemer@p54A98C1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== joee [n=jhiemer@p54A98C1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu []
elviroloHappyFool: you can't even imagine the number of weird probs i have with *hoary* !01:38
=== dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has joined #ubuntu
=== norhted [n=norhted@85.100.60.108] has joined #ubuntu
elvirolomy scanner doesn't work although it worked on all my previous distros01:38
=== joee [n=jhiemer@p54A98C1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
dtamasPlase help! My desktop fully unvisible! Only taskbar works. What can I do? I use breezy.01:39
HappyFoolelvirolo: yeah, but hoary isn't a moving target for fixes. anyway, if you can risk losing your machine, or taking time to fix odd problems, go for it.01:39
elvirolomy KDE menu doesn't show have the entries it should show01:39
elviroloetc...01:39
joeewhere do I find my .profile file=01:39
elviroloHappyFool: well, again, it works,on my separate partition01:39
ompaulyonil, perhaps it is more of a Kde thing - I strictly gnome except when I'm not :) apt-get install kubuntu-desktop might shove some stuff in the backgroud which would help, but for to test it I have to d/l 27 megs of stuff over a 1 meg line that is being used to feed a linux torrent :) but I shall install same01:40
HappyFooljoee: in /home/joeee (or whatever your home directory is)01:40
ompauldtamas, ctrl+alt+f201:41
elvirolodtamas: and then upgrade, and then hope ...01:41
yonilompaul, lol, but is there a gnome amaroK-like application ?01:41
ompauldtamas, then login and run the command >> killall nautilus <<01:41
joeeHappyFool and then just vi .profile ?01:41
elviroloyonil: yes, but it's not quite as good01:42
elviroloyonil: it is called quodlibet01:42
ompaulyonil, maybe  rhythmbox but I am not sure01:42
HappyFooljoee: yeah. 'vi ~/.profile' will work too, from anywhere01:42
yonilok thanks ompaul, elvirolo01:42
HappyFooljoee: you may want to check exactly when .profile is used -- i think it's only for 'login' shells. Check out 'man bash'01:42
elvirolorythmbox box is not way as powerful as amarok i'm afraid to say :(01:42
dazvidI need help installing GRUB onto my windows partition.. LILO is currently installed and doesnt work with my XP. When trying to install to my hda1, it says its a read-only partition.. how can I make it writeable?01:42
=== selinium [n=selinium@82-34-235-207.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Elleo [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
elviroloyonil: i've used quodlibet quite a lot, and it's the closest to amarok you'll get, AFAIK01:43
=== aRAchNiON [n=arachnio@d51A49FA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/185001:43
joeeHappyFool: yeah I needs to be, because I want to set this EV in my profile ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle; export ORACLE_BASE01:43
aRAchNiONHiddenWolf, I'm on breezy now, still no sound01:43
Bobulorwhenever I try to watch a video on mozilla, mplayer downloads the file (maybe) and sits around not doing anything afterwards. What do I do?01:43
aRAchNiONwhere do I submit my bug?01:43
=== ompaul lives in a happy world of grip audacity and xmms
elviroloaRAchNiON: bugs.ubuntu.com ?01:44
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:44
aRAchNiONok ;)01:44
aRAchNiONah01:44
=== mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulaRAchNiON, or you can try malone01:44
HappyFoolyoungcoder: can you put your /etc/samba/smb.conf up on the pastebin/01:44
aRAchNiONty HiddenWolf01:44
ompaulmalone.launchpad.com01:44
aRAchNiONompaul, ?01:44
HiddenWolfompaul, main is still bugzilla01:44
youngcoderHappyFool, ya one sec01:44
ompaulHiddenWolf, ack01:44
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, bugzilla, not malone01:44
elvirolowhoops, i HiddenWolf is right, bugs is for kde01:44
dtamasyou can write on ntfs with captive-ntfs01:45
=== dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has left #ubuntu []
ompauldtamas, why would you put a windows device driver near a linux kernel, why not get an ext reader for windows01:45
ompauldtamas,  ext reader / writer for windows01:46
elviroloompaul: cause they're not very reliable?01:46
=== dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has joined #ubuntu
youngcoderHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/185101:46
Bobulorubuntu noob = needs help01:46
dtamasthe killall nautilus works! thanks!01:46
=== Waerner [i=Waerner@c-6128e253.46-8-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulelvirolo, you realise that that was the most pointless irc session :-)01:47
elviroloompaul: more or less, yes :)01:47
=== A-Z-I-Z [n=aziz@62.215.128.10] has joined #ubuntu
Bobulorbreezy01:47
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, package linux please include lspci -v |grep -i audio and ls /proc/asound and lspci01:47
A-Z-I-ZIs there a GUI application for controlling wireless connections ?01:48
youngcoderHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/185201:48
elviroloA-Z-I-Z: do you use gnome ?01:48
aRAchNiONHiddenWolf, sure01:48
Bobulordammit01:48
A-Z-I-Zright now.. KDE01:48
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, thanks. :)01:48
ompauldtamas, I would not allow a windows device driver near a linux kernel - perhaps have a look at an ext reader / writer for windows only check the reliabity before you commit to some solution01:49
=== ubuntuguy [n=user1@host-24-149-222-45.patmedia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Bobulor...01:49
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, also mention that you use breezy, and that you've tried opening mixers etc. That's 2 default questions they ask. :)01:49
elviroloA-Z-I-Z: well, kwifimanager i suppose then01:49
A-Z-I-Zelvirolo: what's the name of the application for wireless in gnome ?01:49
elvirolofor gnome, you can use this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4914801:49
=== ompaul wishes that people would stop using non '*x' operating systems world wide right now this second
HappyFoolyoungcoder: hmm. 'anonymous' browsing with smbclient works here01:50
elvirolowhich is good01:50
ubuntuguyDoes Ubuntu hire developers? How can someone get a job working for Ubuntu?01:50
seliniumAnybody about how knows ablout compiling from source?01:50
elviroloubuntuguy: canonical does01:50
elviroloselinium: yes01:50
aRAchNiONok HiddenWolf01:50
HiddenWolfubuntuguy, canonical hires developers, yes01:50
aRAchNiONI'll do it in a sec, just eating now01:50
HappyFoolyoungcoder: try maybe simplifying your smb.conf, at least for testing01:50
ubuntuguyelvirolo: URL?01:50
HiddenWolfaRAchNiON, take your time. I'm off now tho.01:50
aRAchNiONo/01:50
youngcoderHappyFool, how simple can it get?01:51
HappyFoolyoungcoder: i can paste mine, if you like01:51
HappyFoolyoungcoder: well, remove the 'domain master' stuff01:51
seliniumelvirolo: do yuo mind having a look at the output from a make. I am not sure if it failed or not. Very new to compiling! Second one!01:51
HappyFoolyoungcoder: and the 'server signing'01:51
elviroloubuntuguy: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu obviously01:51
ompaulubuntuguy, be prepared to use a lot of python :)01:51
A-Z-I-Zelvirolo: thanks01:51
elviroloselinium: sure, but let's do it by mp01:51
elviroloA-Z-I-Z: np01:51
elvirolopm*01:51
=== siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #ubuntu
Dr_Fatehttp://freshmeat.net/projects/smtm/01:52
youngcoderHappyFool, please do i need an example01:52
siimocan someone please tell me how to extract an RPM ?01:52
Dr_FateNow I REALLY LOVE Debian/Ubuntu01:52
Dr_Fatehow cool is that?01:52
HappyFoolyoungcoder: ok, standby. Mine is pretty close to the standard ubuntu setup01:52
ubuntuguyelvirolo: How is canonical related to ubuntu?01:52
Dr_Fatesiimo, turn that rpm into a .deb with alein01:52
Dr_Fatealien01:52
elvirolo      rpm2cpio {FullNameOfRPM} | cpio -iumd     {FullNameOfFileToExtract}01:53
ptloubuntuguy, canonical is the company that produces ubuntu01:53
elvirolowell, used to01:53
ompaulubuntuguy, why not read about it on that web page :)01:53
elvirolocanonical was founded by mark shuttleworth, and created the ubuntu project01:53
=== barkman [n=bart@BSN-95-248-237.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolyoungcoder: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/185301:54
ubuntuguyOK, who produces it now? and why does canonical no longer "produce" ubuntu?01:54
elvirolosince them, the guy created the ubuntu foundation though, so that it is independent financially from canonical01:54
=== Fanskapet [n=din@81-233-197-124-no88.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolyoungcoder: the one hacky thing i've added is the 'interfaces=' and 'bind interfaces only' lines01:54
HiddenWolfubuntuguy, the ubuntu foundation will produce Breezy with the community from the next release on.01:54
siimoelvirolo, rpm2cpio is not in apt?01:54
ubuntuguydoes the ubuntu foundation hire?01:55
elvirolosiimo: oh ..., that's what i used when i had RH01:55
barkmanHi! I'm having poblems with my repositories for 5.04. Can anyone give me a list of working repos? Thanks!01:55
ompaul!repos01:55
ubotumethinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:55
=== nubbe [n=martin@c-a52970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
barkmanThanks, ompaul01:55
ompaulubuntuguy, why not check out the web pages and see if you have anything to offer01:56
elvirolosiimo: let me check01:56
youngcoderHappyFool, that is simpler than mine?01:56
HappyFoolyoungcoder: well, it is closer to bog-standard ubuntu setup01:56
youngcoderok01:56
youngcoderbrb01:56
HappyFoolyoungcoder: or, to put it another way, It Works Here(tm)01:56
siimoDr_Fate, can i extract it after converting to deb01:57
ubuntuguythank  you01:57
Dr_Fatesiimo, they don't "extract" they install01:57
dazvidi am trying to install grub to my boot dir, (on an xfs partition) and it gives me a warning, and then the install hangs.. any ideas?01:58
siimoi'd like to extract since its not designed for ubuntu01:58
ompaulubuntuguy, to see what the community of developers are up to check out #ubuntu-devel01:58
sleptdazvid, you dont install to a dir you install to a device like grub-install  /dev/hda01:59
lJlolelDr_Fate, the charts aren't working for me in smtm02:00
dazvidHmm, I read on the ubuntu guide to install it to the boot dir :S02:00
Smegzori'm running the live cd to recover my grub boot loader after installing a 2nd OS.  following the howto.. how do I tell if I have a /boot/ listing in my fstab?02:00
HappyFoolSmegzor: open the /etc/fstab file (on your drive, so maybe /mnt/hda3/etc/fstab or something) and look for a /boot entry02:00
dazvidYup02:01
Smegzorthanks02:01
sleptdazvid, thats the place where you have configuration (and splashimigas if you like to). install grub via apt, and then do grub-install02:02
dazvidI can't open my terminal now because that install hung.. so02:02
dazvidbrb02:02
=== Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== spiritz [n=spiritz@abo-97-248-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
scumbosiimo, see if there's a package "rpm".  It exists in Debian and may be available for ubuntu.  It has rpm2cpio.02:04
siimook thx02:05
=== bdoetsch [n=bastian@c137027.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
spiritzI can't remember the name of an equivalent to rpmfind for deb packages. Any clue anyone?02:06
bdoetschhi there02:06
HappyFoolspiritz: apt-cache, maybe?02:06
HappyFoolspiritz: otherwise take a look at packages.ubuntu.com02:06
spiritzI was looking for a website indeed02:06
scumbospiritz, rpmseek.com02:06
A-Z-I-Zis there an application that shows the battery level of my laptop ??02:07
spiritzscumbo: perfect; thanks02:07
bdoetschanyone knows how i can get alexandria to start up in breezy?02:07
spiritzA-Z-I-Z: acpii does that02:07
Dr_Fatehttp://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2005/05/04/#smtm_charts_fix02:07
spiritzA-Z-I-Z: acpi not acpiii sorry02:08
HappyFoolA-Z-I-Z: right-click on the panel, choose 'Add to panel' and scroll down to the 'Battery charge monitor' (I don't have a laptop, so i haven't used it myself)02:08
A-Z-I-ZHappyFool: is that for Gnome ?02:08
=== Behi [n=behrangs@213.207.200.168] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolA-Z-I-Z: indeed02:08
=== Juhaz [i=voas0113@koopa.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu
Behianybody from australia? or finland?02:08
=== samigaru [n=samigaru@61.173.29.242] has joined #ubuntu
sleptBehi, what do australia an finland have in common ?02:09
Juhazthey're on same planet?02:10
Behislept: my interest in them :D ;)02:10
ompaulmonthy python did stuff about both of them02:10
BehiJuhaz: you're right man ;)02:11
BehiLOL!02:11
ompaulthe song finland and the sketch bruce02:11
aRAchNiONI'm about to post a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:11
Behianybody from adelaide or helsinki?02:11
aRAchNiONis there anything I should enter in the URL or Cc fields?02:12
=== grxmrx [i=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #ubuntu
aRAchNiONit's about a sound problem02:12
youngcoderhey HappyFool , i think the problem is that my windows box had the domain controller enabled02:12
youngcoderHappyFool, i fixed it and rebooted and i will post my results02:13
=== skywire [n=sky@L0851P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolyoungcoder: ah. interesting02:13
youngcoderthat will definitely cause a problem02:13
aRAchNiON..?02:13
aRAchNiONok, I'm commiting02:14
=== _vince_ [n=_vince_@80-219-97-43.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
aRAchNiONcould someone check if there is anything I forgot to mention here?02:15
aRAchNiONhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464302:15
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== bluesceada [n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada] has joined #ubuntu
=== spayne is now known as spayne|afk
=== dazvid [n=dazvid@c211-28-53-202.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidok, I retried installing it just to a partition.. and the same error appears, and locks up my terminal.02:19
dazvidReally frustrating actually02:19
youngcoderHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854   ....  if my windows box doesnt show a workgroup name then what setting is wrong on the windows box?02:20
youngcoderHappyFool, i ensured that it was set to MSHOME02:20
=== Behi [n=behrangs@213.207.200.168] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolyoungcoder: sorry, i'm not sure02:21
HappyFoolyoungcoder: is this a domain or a workgroup?02:21
Smegzorhmm..  I have finished recovering my mbr after installing windows to a 2nd partition, but after rebooting, all I get is a command prompt grub>  it was working before I installed windows and I followed the howto.  how can I fix this?02:21
sleptyoungcoder, do  smbtree02:22
scumbodazvid, you looking for anyone in particular?02:22
youngcoderslept ok now what?02:22
grxmrxhello02:22
youngcoderHappyFool, workgroup02:22
=== hamourabi [n=hamourab@62.84.67.170] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidnot really, just anyone who thinks they know whats going on really ;/02:22
hamourabihi roo02:22
hamourabihi room02:23
youngcodergrxmrx, hello02:23
aRAchNiONI'm going02:23
youngcoderbye aRAchNiON02:23
dazvidscumbo, slept told me I had to install to an actual partition.. which I just tried, and it still had the same error with XFS partition stuff02:23
aRAchNiONbye o/02:23
=== Paradoxx [n=matthewm@port0066-adb-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #Ubuntu []
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-2-gre-82-250-47-180.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu []
dazvidand then just hangs02:23
hamourabii've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens02:23
hamourabiwhat to do?02:23
scumbodazvid, I don't think I saw your original error message.02:24
dazvid"Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation02:24
dazvidfault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and02:24
dazvidcan be ignored.02:24
dazvid"02:24
aRAchNiON... messy shutdown, again :S02:24
aRAchNiON:(02:25
youngcoderslept, you still with me?02:25
sleptyoungcoder, what is excactly your problem with samba ? you cant access the shares from windows ?02:25
dazvidthats after the command "grub-install /dev/hda02:25
=== hamourabi is now known as bassem
Smegzoranyone know a nice way to recover my boot loader?  Is it possible to install a new one from scratch without losing anything?02:26
=== bassem is now known as bassembg
=== jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #ubuntu
bassembghi room02:26
youngcoderslept, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854 ... yes i cant access them and i got this02:26
scumbodazvid, /dev/hda being your entire disk.  That's what you intend?02:26
bassembgi've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens02:26
=== terrex [n=terrex@84-122-80-108.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu
bassembgwhat to do?02:26
A-Z-I-Zwhen i type "acpi" in command line shell, i get "No support for device type: battery" ... how do i get support for battery ?02:26
dazvidhda has my windows XP stuff on it02:26
=== OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D237F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidhda1 to be more precise02:27
sleptyoungcoder, I got that right, you wnat to mount the windows-shares from linux ?02:28
grxmrxI'm new here, I have just read the manual about ubuntu, just to make sure I have one stupid question, is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same disk where I have partitions with other operating system (morphos)? I'm don't want to lost access (or lose data) to morphos partitions. I have installed debian ppc,02:28
grxmrx is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same partition where I have debian ppc already?02:28
scumbodazvid, OK, so it's installing a new MBR on the disk, with windows on hda1 and the whatever else wherever else.02:28
dazvidYup (thats what I want)02:28
youngcoderslept, yes and it seems that windows doesnt show workgroup as MSHOME02:28
=== codenut [n=abeck@ip142176058045.islandtelecom.com] has joined #ubuntu
lJlolel!windowsdrives02:28
uboturumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically02:28
=== ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu
scumbodazvid, weird error message though.  XFS is the SGI filesystem IIRC, so why is grub hitting a problem with it?02:29
sleptyoungcoder, if you do smbtree you get some \\servername\share just use that info and do mount -t smbfs //servername/share /mountpoint02:30
dazvidIm using XFS for my linux partitions perhaps?02:30
dazviderr I mean I am using them.. but perhaps that is the source of error02:30
youngcoderslept i didnt get any info02:30
scumbodazvid, clutching at straws, but what does "fdisk -l /dev/hda" show you as far as partition types go?02:30
sleptyoungcoder, from smbtree?02:30
scumbodazvid, never mind.  OK, so you're using XFS.02:30
grxmrxhmm, I mean not 'on' but 'over" debian partition ;)02:30
youngcoderslept, correct02:31
youngcoderill paste it02:31
=== JzE [n=jze@a84-231-30-190.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
sleptyoungcoder, then there is no server running , try to restart the server02:31
dazvidscumbo, yup. Is there anyway to terminate what the console is doing?02:31
youngcoderslept, how is that done ?02:32
sleptyoungcoder, I don't know I never used windows with networking , there might be a button or sth like that02:32
=== yuacht [n=suker@82.193.191.5] has joined #ubuntu
=== spayne|afk is now known as spayne
scumbodazvid, probably a few.  ^C will send a sigint.  ^Z might put it in the background for you.  Or you can use kill from another shell.02:33
dazvidYeh ^C didnt work.. how do I kill from another shell?02:33
dazvidscratch that... I cant open another shell.02:34
sleptyoungcoder, smbtree searches all workgroups available on the net , therefor I'm quite sure you don't have a server running02:34
dazvid^Z worked *phew*02:34
youngcoderslept, i just wish i knew how to fix it02:34
=== surfdue [n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue] has joined #ubuntu
scumbodazvid, you might have been able to try a different console <ctrl><alt><right>.  Anyway, ^Z has left the process in a stopped state, so try "ps -lf" in that console and see if there's anything interesting about the hung process.02:35
=== hawking [n=Stephen@85.99.194.34] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidDont really understand all this..:02:36
hawkingwho has removed w32codecs from the repositories and why??02:36
dazvid"F S UID        PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDR SZ WCHAN  STIME TTY          TIME CMD02:36
dazvid0 S dazvid    8127  8125  0  75   0 -  1037 wait   22:10 pts/0    00:00:00 bash02:36
dazvid0 R dazvid    8416  8127  0  77   0 -   959 -      22:36 pts/0    00:00:00 ps -l"02:36
=== osfameron [n=osfa@83.67.56.62] has joined #ubuntu
scumbodazvid, nothing useful there.  Wonder where the process has gone.  You could try "ps -efl | fgrep grub"  we're looking for your grub install line.02:38
sleptyoungcoder, I just had to set up the server side  and only used it with linux clients :( , but if you don't want to have password things you can have a look at nfs, its very easy to use02:38
dazvidok02:38
dazvidI might send it in a private msg..02:38
youngcoderslept where should i look?02:39
youngcoder!nfs02:39
dazvid1 D root      8399  8275  0  76   0 -   957 xfs_tr 22:18 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/sh /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda02:39
dazvid0 R dazvid    8420  8127  0  77   0 -   759 -      22:38 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -F grub02:39
dazvidm02:39
dazvidnot kool02:39
codenutstats /p02:40
=== Fanskapet [n=din@81-233-197-124-no88.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
SmegzorI'm confused.  I did everything correctly according to the howto to recover my grub boot loader.  I can even see the original loader files part way through the howto. Yet after completing this and rebooting, no boot loader :(  any ideas how to get it back?  Its not lost yet.02:40
codenutHow exactly do I become root in a terminal session?02:41
Smegzorsudo -i02:41
codenutSmegzor: I will look at that02:41
surfduehey can someone tell me how I can fix my sound driver, so that X-Lite will reconize them02:41
scumbodavidz, nothing spectacular there; don't know what xfs_tr means.  Sounds suspicious.  Might be something to Google for.02:41
dazvidcodenut, you can just open a root terminal through the "Applications > system tools"02:42
sleptyoungcoder, the linuxpart is easy just install nfs-user-server edit /etc/exports, add aline with /sharedir and permissions02:42
dazvidRight scumbo02:42
dazvidI just need to install grub so I can access windows -_-02:42
=== ogra [n=ogra@pD9FAB6C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidatm i cant dual boot02:42
dazvidThere is a previous installation of GRUB on my system though.. that might be messing it up..02:43
Smegzori'm part way through following the howto a 2nd time.  last time I let it recover grub automatically.02:43
Smegzorwhy isn't midnight commander included in the live cd?02:44
scumbodavidz, unfortunately I've only used grub a few times myself.  I've used lilo for years and haven't seen much need to change.  Between that and the fact I use ext3 not xfs, I'm not sure I can help all that much.02:44
dazvidDoes lilo work with xp?02:45
dazvidatm I have that installed, and it doesnt offer the option of booting my other HDD02:45
Xappehow do I prevent update-manager to load when starting up gnome?02:45
scumbodazvid, sure.02:45
=== geoff_theFish [n=geoff@host-87-74-29-111.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
dazvidHow do I set it up to offer the dual boot?02:46
ompauldazvid, unfortunately yes, the unfortunate part is XP now if you had said does it work with brand X linux or BSD I would be happy :)02:46
dazvidompaul, I dont understand what you mean with that sentence.. :S02:47
=== tommi^ [n=tommi@line-10712.dsl.kpo.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
scumbodazvid, you just need to add an appropriate entry.  If you have an /etc/lilo.conf which single boots linux, add two lines for windows:02:47
scumboother=/dev/hda102:48
scumbo  label="WinNT(hda1)"02:48
dazvidrighto, will try that02:48
scumbodazvid, Oh, and *very* important.  Run "/sbin/lilo" after that.02:48
dazvidwhen my console unfreezes...02:48
dazvidok02:48
dazvidSeriously I think i broke my console =[02:48
tommi^Hi. My friend has made a user account to his win xp computer. Now I'm trying to access my home directory with samba. With nautilus, I'm trying to access smb://myusername@friendsIP/ -address but without results. What should I define after last slash? What else could be the problem?02:48
=== fivetwentysix [n=fivetwen@n219078247106.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompauldazvid, maybe  you have seen this version of it: XP is the problem, now what was the question :-)02:49
ompauldazvid, why not use Grub?02:49
surfduehow do we switch from hoary to beta breezy02:49
dazvidbecause when installing grub, it outputs an error, and then locks up the terminal02:50
ompaul!upgrade02:50
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:50
scumbothis is not to say that lilo isn't going to do the same thing.02:50
ompaulsurfdue, if you can't modify that script then you should not consider to move to breezy02:51
surfdueoh u mean tats not right?02:52
surfdue...02:52
surfduethanks.02:52
ompaulsurfdue, well that won't do any damage if you are using hoary02:52
surfduei know to change the hoary to testing in sources.list02:53
surfdueright?02:53
surfduestable to testing02:53
surfduei mean02:53
surfdue:)02:53
ompaulsurfdue, that gets you from warty to hoary - you want to change hoary to breezy testing is debian :)02:53
ompauldoh02:53
=== ompaul goes and gets brain examined
ompaulthere is nothing there02:54
ompaulI am going to play computer games for an hour02:54
surfdueon 1 sec02:54
=== aeho [n=aeho@qn-vlk-234.cable.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
surfduesudo sed -e 'breezy' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:54
surfdueis this right?02:54
HappyFoolsurfdue: how about using 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and change hoary to breezy that way?02:56
surfduek02:56
HappyFooli think the re is probably s/hoary/breezy/, but i'm not a sed user02:56
surfdueok im use to debian with testing and stable02:56
surfduenot the actuall names02:56
ompaulsurfdue, ahh okay02:57
surfduesudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:57
surfduethis is right ?02:57
=== XandriX [n=slack@unaffiliated/xandrix] has joined #ubuntu
scumbosurfdue, why use three sudos when one would do?02:57
=== HappyFool disavows responsibilty for sed regex ;)
surfdueubotu gave me this command02:58
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, surfdue02:58
surfduethats why02:58
ompaulsurfdue, that reads a lot better - but testing in debian is not = breezy it is sid and that breaks a lot, just so you know what you are getting into02:58
surfdue:)02:58
ompaul!ubotu02:58
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:58
surfduenvm then02:58
surfduei just love ubuntu02:59
surfduebut the sound never works02:59
=== sciv [n=sciv@221.143.115.133] has joined #ubuntu
surfdueon some of my apps.02:59
HappyFoolsurfdue: what topic was that under?02:59
surfdueand its annoying02:59
surfdueX-Lite sip phone dosnt work ever on ubuntu02:59
surfduei mean the sound dosnt02:59
=== candlelight [n=tyubu@218.208.206.91] has joined #ubuntu
lsuactiafneris breezy out?03:00
ompaul!breezy03:00
ubotubreezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/03:00
Smegzorok heres the problem.  my grub has a file menu.lst which contains what I expect it to, but when I goot I only get GRUB>  What do I need to do now to get that menu.lst displayed at boot time?03:00
=== No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu
lsuactiafneroh03:00
Smegzorer.. goot is boot :)03:00
HappyFoolSmegzor: did you run grub-install?03:00
Smegzoryes03:01
HappyFoolhmm03:01
Smegzori'll do it again anyway..03:01
HappyFoolwhat command did you use?03:01
=== ezerhoden|afk is now known as ezerhoden
HappyFooli mean, what command-line parameters?03:01
Smegzor/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda03:01
HappyFooli think you might need the --root option too03:02
HappyFoolbut i have not yet successfully helped anyone with this03:02
surfdueguys all i need is my X-LIte to work if it does ubuntu is perfect03:02
SmegzorI have 2 partitions on my hdd.. hda1 appears to be ubuntu (it was installed first), hda2 appears to be my new windows install.03:02
surfduewhen it tryies to detect my sound device i can only choose one defualt and it wont accept that03:02
surfduehow can i fix this error03:02
Smegzorhmm..  ok03:02
Smegzorbrb03:03
HappyFoolSmegzor: my guess would be to try 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda', but i'm not sure if that only applies when you have a separate boot partition03:07
Smegzorhmm..  --root doesn't appear to be a valid command03:08
=== spanglesontoast [n=edd@eddland.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
spanglesontoasthelp03:08
Smegzorits not listed in the help03:08
HappyFool--root-directory03:08
spanglesontoastis there a way of stopping the annoying sound card warnings03:08
=== binbrain [n=meredith@adsl-68-79-116-182.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
binbrain*whoa* big problems upgrading-dist to breezy03:09
binbrainmy everything is broke03:09
spanglesontoastwell duh03:09
HappyFoolSmegzor: hmm, no, scrap that. I think plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' should work,03:09
binbraincan anybody lend a hand for assistence03:09
HappyFoolSmegzor: you don't have /boot on a separate partition03:10
HappyFoolright?03:10
Smegzorhmm..  i don't know03:10
binbrainanybody have broken dependency problems in breezy right now?03:10
Smegzorthere is a boot folder in hda103:10
HappyFoolSmegzor: ok, and what's in it?03:10
HappyFoolSmegzor: or rather, is it empty or not?03:11
Smegzori got an error just before..  /boot/boot/grub is not an XFS file system...03:11
HappyFool/boot/boot/grub ?03:11
HappyFoolhmm03:11
HappyFoolare you using XFS at all?03:11
=== samu2 [n=Sam@svamppi.sby.abo.fi] has joined #ubuntu
Smegzorin /boot is my original menu.lst with entries I recognise and a bunch of other files..03:12
HappyFoolmenu.lst is in /boot/grub on my system03:12
samu2something bad happened when i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop03:12
Smegzorno idea.  what is it?03:12
samu2it cant install GRUB to the MBR03:12
HappyFoolSmegzor: XFS is a different filesystem -- if you don't know, you probably aren't using it ;)03:12
HappyFoolSmegzor: are you irc'ing from that machine at the moment?03:13
=== albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu
=== stoeptegel [n=stoepteg@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Smegzorat the end of the grub-install process it lists (hd0) /dev/hda and (hd1) /dev/hdb.  I have a single hd divided into two partitions.03:14
Smegzorhardly03:14
SmegzorI have many pc's03:14
=== phantombrainm [n=phantomb@d102119.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
SmegzorI can irc from it though.03:14
stoeptegelhow do i install the k7 kernel? i can't find it in kynaptic03:15
phantombrainmstoeptegel, search for linux-kernel03:15
Smegzori'm going to reboot and see if anything has changed.  then I'll hit google for a bit.  I will stay here also.03:15
ompaullinux-image-2.6.10-5-k703:16
phantombrainmsorry, linux-image not kernel03:16
=== _vince_ [n=vince^@80-219-97-43.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulstoeptegel, apt-cache search linux | grep k7 don't forget to install modules as awll03:17
ompaulstoeptegel, s/awll/well03:17
phantombrainm:)03:17
phantombrainmas well03:17
phantombrainm;)03:17
Smegzor:O  it worked that time.  I did nothing differently from the first time03:17
Smegzornow to see if it will boot into windows03:18
ompaulphantombrainm, alzo ?03:18
=== ompaul titters
phantombrainmompaul, alzo? What does that mean?03:18
ompaulalso, I am having fun, because I mussen :)03:18
stoeptegelthnx guys :)  i have the choise between linux-image-k7 and linux-k7. Which is the right one.03:18
stoeptegelompaul: modules? ehm... which one03:19
Seveasompaul, stoeptegel, just installing linux-k7 is the easiest route :)03:19
=== sJaM [n=jacob@ip54507a8f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== ezerhoden is now known as ezerhoden|afk
Seveaslinux-k7 is a metapackage that depends on the most recent k7 kernel + modules03:19
Seveasso you automagically get upgrades too03:19
=== _tester_ [n=yz@216.238.203.31] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulSeveas, so I go to court this week :) for bad info03:20
=== XandriX [n=slack@unaffiliated/xandrix] has joined #ubuntu
stoeptegelROFLOL03:21
=== denis_molnar [n=denis@Newmarket-ppp110228.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolSmegzor: are you still here? plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' worked?03:21
Seveasompaul, rofl ;)03:21
=== robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-170-119.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulSeveas, nice to see automagically has gotten around a bit03:22
Smegzorhmm..  ok it loads into linux again YAY!  but windows isn't correct in the grub loader.  I can just edit it can't I?03:22
SmegzorI know where I parked Windows :)03:22
SmegzorHappyFool yes to both03:22
mjryeah, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:22
ompaulSeveas, are we going to see another colony?03:23
Seveasno03:23
Seveasnext is the previw release03:23
ompaularrays?03:23
HappyFoolSmegzor: if you know the partition which windows is on, you can probably hack something from the grub command-line03:23
Dr_Fatewhere can I find this? Tk::PNG03:23
mjrDr_Fate, I don't know, but I'm guessing libtk-img03:24
Smegzori'm booting into linux so I can 'see' everything and I'll hack the menu.lst for starters.03:24
HappyFoolDr_Fate: maybe perl-tk ?03:24
Dr_Fatethx guys03:25
Dr_Fate perl-tk already installed03:26
=== chrismy [n=Christop@60.49.70.225] has joined #ubuntu
Dr_Fatetrying to install the latest smtm03:26
chrismyhey all03:26
=== BollocksMacenzie [n=Bollocks@82.133.106.43] has joined #ubuntu
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@84.45.5.127] has joined #ubuntu
Stormx2Heya03:27
spolawhen can we expect an GNU/Hurd ubuntu?03:27
chrismy:D03:27
Dr_FateTk::PNG 2.005 is what I need03:27
Stormx2Does anyone have any experience in using multisync?03:27
=== funkyHat [n=matt@cpc3-nthc3-3-1-cust65.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
mjrspola, probably not very soon... Hurd is not for human beings yet ;I03:27
mjrthough I am kinda impatient myself03:28
Dr_Fatethe repositories don't have the newer files I need03:28
Dr_FateI tried the .deb package03:28
Dr_Fateno go03:28
Dr_Fateso I'm trying source03:28
Dr_Fateand this is where it chokes03:28
BollocksMacenzieHas anyone had toruble with PCMCIA USB 2.0 cards? Would like to know before I buy one.03:28
Smegzorok please confirm.  in boot.lst (hd0,0) is my linux install.  currently the windows boot is (hd1,0) I know I installed windows on a 2nd partition of the same drive as (hd0,0) so should (hd1,0) actually read (hd0,1) ???03:28
=== ompaul just larted a top poster who came out with "in short <shout>leave us top posters alone</shout>" so my reply was posted below, and it said 'No, because, unlike you I read from the top of the screen to the bottom :) regards ....'
ompauldoh wrong place03:28
=== kefkey [n=selwyn@204-212-120-129.setardsl.aw] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasompaul, *g*03:29
HappyFoolSmegzor: yes03:29
mjrSmegzor, yep03:29
Smegzorthanks03:29
spolai hard they were making steay progress with GNU/Hurd debian03:29
Smegzorthat will be why its not working atm03:29
Smegzorbrb03:29
mjrspola, it is progressing nicely. Though there's the small matter that the Hurd developers are in the process of porting Hurd onto another microkernel and stuff...03:29
Stormx2Hey, anyone used Multisync?03:29
=== surfdue [n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue] has joined #ubuntu
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
spolayeah i heard they were going to replace the mach for the l4 do you know what the diffrences are?03:30
Dr_FateTurns out that it pretty easy to fix things -- loading the Tk::PNG module and then declaring the png format is all it takes03:30
pirastubotu?03:30
pirastwhere is ubotu?03:30
ompaul!ubotu03:30
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:30
robotgeek!botsnack03:30
ubotuthanks robotgeek :)03:30
pirastahhh03:31
pirasti though he is not here :-)03:31
mjrspola, I'm not familiar with many of the exact details on the differences, though I heard that eg. drivers can be better moved into user processes with L403:31
Smegzorbother!  it still won't boot into windows.  its partition is NTFS.  does that matter?03:31
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolSmegzor: it shouldn't03:32
=== denis_molnar [n=denis@Newmarket-ppp110228.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
pirast!sound03:32
ubotuhmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/03:32
HappyFoolSmegzor: you can put your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for us to look at it you want03:32
Smegzorok03:32
=== KFC^_^ [n=kfc@218.111.62.156] has joined #ubuntu
Smegzori'll be a min. I have to reboot ^^03:33
pirastsince I upgraded my Breezy sound doesn't work -.-03:33
pirastmartin@mubuntu:~$ aplay -l03:33
pirastaplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...03:33
pirastoh sry03:33
=== KFC^_^ [n=kfc@218.111.62.156] has left #ubuntu []
=== kefkey [n=selwyn@204-212-120-129.setardsl.aw] has joined #ubuntu
pirasti forgot to use paste.ubuntu...03:33
=== Une-ga-dihi [n=Une-ga-d@249.249.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Une-ga-dihipower just goes out03:34
Une-ga-dihinice03:34
=== stoeptegel [n=stoepteg@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
BollocksMacenzieUSB 2.0 PCMCIA cards, work/don't work?03:35
=== _vince_ [n=vince^@80-219-97-43.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
stoeptegelinstalled k7, running smooth. I would be lost without you guys _o_03:35
pirast!Audigy03:35
ubotuI guess audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.03:35
ompaulstoeptegel, no you would be running windows, that is a lot worse than being lost :-)03:35
=== Fanskapet [n=din@81-233-197-124-no88.tbcn.telia.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== tommy_h [n=tommmy@129.240.123.205] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== tommy_h [n=tommy@129.240.123.205] has joined #ubuntu
=== ompaul hates audigy for that
=== singingwolfboy [n=Baumgold@pool-70-21-83-157.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== robotgeek hates not having a audigy
Smegzorok  my menu.lst (minus the comments) is pasted http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/185703:39
ompaulrobotgeek, well a friend of mine has it, and I could not get it to work - now I can :)03:39
robotgeekompaul: :)03:39
robotgeeki need some coffee!03:40
ompaulrobotgeek, then when it works we will have another 100% of the time ubuntu user03:40
ompaulrobotgeek, make me one too please :)03:40
robotgeekompaul: i converted my roomate to ubuntu03:40
=== robotgeek pours ompaul a cup of cofee!
Smegzori should be able to mount and look at my windows partition yes?  I might find its not where I think it is!03:40
=== singingwolfboy [n=Baumgold@pool-70-21-83-157.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== singingwolfboy [n=Baumgold@pool-70-21-83-157.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolSmegzor: you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to list all the partitions ubuntu can find03:41
=== singingwolfboy [n=Baumgold@pool-70-21-83-157.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
tommi^robotgeek, oh nou! What will his parents say when he's an ubuntu?03:41
robotgeekompaul: he was suprised that everything just worked, wireless with ndiswrapper, and even his function keys!03:41
robotgeektommi^: better than a window :)03:41
SmegzorAHA!  it is on hda303:41
=== Shorty` [n=shorty@persephone.trancelab.org] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolSmegzor: the ubuntu installer thought that windows was on your second hard-drive, according to the paste03:41
tommi^robotgeek, they could see right through him03:42
Smegzorok  well I can see it on hda3 so how would that boot line look?03:42
HappyFoolSmegzor: that will be (hd0,2)03:42
robotgeekthen i made him jealous by showing him network-manager :)03:42
Smegzorthanks03:42
Stormx2!multisync03:42
ubotuStormx2: Wish i knew03:42
Stormx2!synce03:42
ubotuStormx2: I give up, what is it?03:42
Stormx2Uhg.03:42
ompaulmy wife uses it, my father in law uses it, my non game playing friends use it, my lug uses it after me ranting and raving about it and I have have had over 300 cds given away - me fanatical no, okay then just a little :)03:43
robotgeekStormx2: i wanted to try out multi-sync, but have been too lazy!03:43
=== dabaR [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-157-176.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu
robotgeekompaul: great! keep the good work going!03:43
ompaulohh I also invented the internet my name is al gore :)03:43
=== ompaul rafl
Stormx2robotgeek: I can't get it to work.03:44
robotgeekompaul: bush went one step further, he invented the internets!03:44
ompaulrobotgeek, I do, am going to give out shipit next time (assuming they still exist)03:44
ompaulrobotgeek, well the republicans have the money for that sort of thing03:44
robotgeekStormx2: i havent tried messing with it03:44
Smegzorthanks guys :D  I can now boot into my awesome Ubuntu or my sad Windows :)03:45
robotgeekompaul: it's just weird, the way things work here. i think enuf off-topic though!03:45
ompaulaye03:45
=== ompaul takes it to #ubuntu-offtopic
robotgeekompaul: what did u mean, u are going to give out shipits?03:46
ompaulrobotgeek, the ones we gave out we burnt ourselves03:46
robotgeekompaul: okay, the shipits are nice though. live cd + install!03:47
ompaulrobotgeek, I was given one, hehe03:47
robotgeeki just can't wait, i just download it. univ net!03:47
Une-ga-dihiloading the Tk::PNG module03:48
Une-ga-dihihow would I call this module ot edit it?] 03:48
=== ubercompuser [n=ubercomp@adsl-211-157-24.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
CarlFKsuper dumb Q: do I need cdrecord, or can I use the DVD tools to  burn a CD?03:49
=== mumbles [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
dabaR!ask03:49
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bobbyd [n=bobby@195.137.31.171] has joined #ubuntu
bobbydhi03:54
bobbydgaim keeps disconnecting my MSN account, is that a known issue?03:54
Seveasmsn is flaky at times03:55
stoeptegelbobbyd: what i always do is switching to psi with msn transport for the time being when gaim/kopete doesn't work03:57
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
=== RedGhost [n=power@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== lvraab [i=user@dialup-4.159.98.105.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== samu2 [n=sam@svamppi.sby.abo.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== joe_alf [i=joe_alf@pcd646044.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Waerner [i=Waerner@c-6128e253.46-8-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
Waerner Hello, I have a bit of a n00b question. Is there any way to get the external IP of the localhost? I mean, the computer I am using atm04:03
lvraabping??04:03
kyncaniWaerner: ifconfig04:03
Waernerkyncani: Thanks alot =)04:04
kyncaninp :)04:04
lvraabhas anyone had any problems with starting X at startup??04:05
dabaRno, noone ever.04:05
lvraabhmm04:05
Waernerdamn mysql...04:05
lvraabI installed 5.04 and when I rebooted I got an error message about how the X server couldn't be started04:05
fivetwentysixHow long did php take for you guys to learn04:06
ompaullvraab, video card?04:06
fivetwentysixi just got a book and started learning it, books pretty deep04:06
lvraabompaul: yep04:06
ompaullvraab, what type?04:06
dabaRwhich one, dude.04:06
lvraabnVidia FX520004:06
ompaul!nvidia04:06
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:06
ompaullvraab, have a look at that04:06
=== jhaa [n=juha@dsl-aur-mm44.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== dgottfried [i=dgottfri@067.216-123-231-0.interbaun.com] has joined #ubuntu
ubuntuguyanyone: I'm using Colony3, I used update manager an hour ago and now sshd won't let me log in. Any ideas?04:07
lvraabubotu, ompaul: thanks04:08
ubotulvraab: Do they come in packets of five?04:08
ompaul!ubotu04:08
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:08
Waernerifconfig gives me the status of three devices,   eth0, lo and sit0, I guess I should look under eth0? But it only gives me a IPv6 adress or something04:09
dabaRWaerner: lo is nothing important to your issue. eth0 is the ethernet card, tell us what the sit is.04:10
dabaRor, tell us whether it has an ipv4 address, at least.04:12
Waernerthe only IP "looking" adress I can see under sit0 is 83.***.**.3/9604:12
WaernerAnd I can't ping it either04:12
=== Virtuall[BZA] is now known as Virtuall
lvraabompaul: if i can't start X, how am I supposed to start Synaptic??04:13
Waernerapt-get...?04:13
lvraabompaul: I can only get a command-line04:13
dabaRthats your IP, Waerner .04:13
dabaRhttp://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9611.1/0330.html04:13
WaernerdabaR: Yes, But I don't get any replies on my pings04:13
dabaRthere is obviously some kind of firewalling involved, see th /96...thats likely a port number.04:14
=== robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-170-119.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu []
Waernerokay?04:14
=== leonel [n=leonel@dsl-201-128-131-116.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
WaernerI don't understand that much of the link you posted...?04:15
dabaRread that URL?04:15
Waerneryep04:15
WaernerBut I didn't really understand what it was saying04:16
ompaullcrarb that link I pointed you to, if you can't do synaptic then do apt-get install04:16
lvraabompaul: alright04:16
dabaRya, I understood that from your previous post. Well, basically, your eth0 is configured for ipv6, and then the sit0 is used to encapsulate ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams. meaning that there is some kind of translation there. Do you use a router at all? and if not, tell us about the set up of your home network.04:17
WaernerThe set up:    ISP --> Modem --> Switch --> This one (Win XP) and the Ubuntu machine04:18
=== VoX [n=vox@c211-28-45-196.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
dabaR2 IPs from the ISP, I suppose.04:18
Waerneryup04:18
dabaRcan ubuntu get online?04:18
CarlFKdabaR - huh?04:19
VoXi'm trying to run an opengl game, but it's complaining it cant find any ogl drivers. any particular package i have to install?04:19
CarlFKdabaR - ah.  hm04:19
=== OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D2567.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== gbon121 [n=chatzill@d81-211-188-74.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu
dabaRCarlFK: misunderstood something? need clarification?04:20
WaernerYep, I rebooted it, and now it can, it even replies on my pings after the reboot04:20
dabaRoki, well, solved? know the IP?04:20
Waerneryeah04:20
kyncaniVoX: if the game has been packaged for ubuntu, you should use the package04:20
VoXkyncani: it hasnt04:21
=== brettcar [n=brettcar@69.60.121.206] has joined #ubuntu
CarlFKdabaR - "can ubuntu get online?" - but then i figured out what you were doing04:21
WaernerBut why did it all of a sudden switch to ipv6?04:21
=== lvraab [i=user@dialup-4.159.98.105.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== Puffball [n=neuropuf@12-218-142-84.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
dabaRWaerner: no idea. another way to get your external IP is whatsmyip.com or so.04:21
pirast!wlan04:21
ubotupirast: Are you on ritalin?04:21
=== guptan [n=someone@83.110.224.237] has joined #ubuntu
WaernerdabaR: Yeah, but I don't have any browsers of X-server installed :)04:22
VoXand also, why is there no vlc package? even debian has vlc04:22
kyncaniVoX: well, to my knowing, there is no easy way to know which library to install if you're not a developper. (don't know about auto-apt)04:23
=== franco64 [n=franco64@bl6-125-77.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu
=== IRCD=dancer CAPAB CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=bdeIq,k,lfJD,cgijLmnPQrRstz CHANLIMIT=#:20 PREFIX=(ov)@+ MAXLIST=bdeI:50 MODES=4 STATUSMSG=@ KNOCK NICKLEN=16 :are supported by this server
=== SAFELIST CASEMAPPING=ascii CHANNELLEN=30 TOPICLEN=450 KICKLEN=450 KEYLEN=23 USERLEN=10 HOSTLEN=63 SILENCE=50 are supported by this server
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else05:09
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>05:09
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Password accepted - you are now recognized05:09
=== mode/ubuntulog [+e] by services.
-MemoServ(MemoServ@services.)- You have no new memos05:09
=== ubuntulog [n=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Help channel | FAQs & User Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Do NOT paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | To prevent spam: /umode +CE | For auto-joining to work: use your nickserv password as server password
=== Topic (#ubuntu): set by Seveas at Sat Sep 3 01:29:37 2005
(joee/#ubuntu) and gnome and kde are plenty to much05:10
(ompaul/#ubuntu) houman_zhu, run this for yourself 'apt-cache show cpufreqd' it will tell you more about it05:10
=== fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Musko [n=Jy@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
(ompaul/#ubuntu) joee have a look at fluxbox05:10
(letschatt/#ubuntu) h17m4n, 's about time someone made this tool :) i am recompiling my stock kernel that came with ubuntu this weekend. it doesn't obey acpi commands (doesn't suspend, windows does)05:11
(h17m4n/#ubuntu) letschatt: make sure that you understand that any program that is not used by and/or is not on the keeper's list will be removed05:11
(h17m4n/#ubuntu) cool05:11
(houman_zhu/#ubuntu) ompaul: thanks05:11
h17m4nI will use that same guide later.... to remove kde05:12
MuskoHi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.05:12
dabaRmaiku-: have you looked at the ubuntu.com web site under downloads?05:12
v1ru5how to edit kernel parameters?05:12
letschatth17m4n, yeah everything requires a ton of documentation the first thing it asked me to remove was gnome-terminal05:12
h17m4npersonally I liked kde's look better05:12
v1ru5i need help fast, should burn a CD05:13
HappyFoolVoX: no, breezy is the next release of ubuntu (due in October)05:13
v1ru5how do i add SCSI support to ubuntu's kernel?05:13
maiku-dabaR the tought had crossed my mind a few times05:13
letschattso there's no effective way to remove gnome eh.. that's fine05:13
mjrv1ru5, do you have an actualy SCSI burner? 'cause you don't do that SCSI thing with ATA burners anymore05:13
dabaRmaiku-: the sun is warm.05:13
mjrv1ru5, anyway, the base kernel should have scsi support05:13
v1ru5mjr: no i have a IDE interfaced cd burner05:14
v1ru5but xcdroast bitches that i don't05:14
v1ru5so i suppose i don't have it05:14
maiku-then I thoguht after trying to use the torrent provided and seeing that there wasn't anything to diretly that I'd ask here05:14
mjrv1ru5, maybe xcdroast is outdated; have you tried straight-up nautilus-cd-burner05:14
v1ru5and the default burner prog isn't able to burn cd's either05:14
h17m4nyou could always just remove all g related apps from synaptic(or the package manager from desktop)05:14
v1ru5mjr: yah well it complains the cd isn't 700mb05:14
v1ru5mjr: while it actually is05:14
v1ru5mjr: how to fix this annoying prob? any ideas?05:14
mjrhmh05:14
mjr*shrug*05:15
v1ru5:/05:15
mjrtry cdparanoia from the command line05:15
=== basvg kicks the mail-notification.deb some more and tries again
v1ru5anyhow, i could try enabling the kernel SCSI support05:15
=== ppd [n=max@dsl-084-056-006-243.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
mjrdon't05:15
MuskoHi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.05:15
ppdhi. has anyone here experience with a samsung sgh e700 and irda file transfer?05:15
v1ru5mjr: well lol @ the cdparanoia thing05:16
v1ru5mjr: isn't there a GUI available for cdparanoia?05:16
v1ru5coz command line cd burner = pure shit05:16
mjroops, my brain was faulty, cdrecord05:16
mjrv1ru5, well guess you're pure shit outta luck05:16
v1ru5:D05:16
mjr(anyway, yes there are, they're called nautilus-cd-burner and xcdroast, among others)05:16
=== NielsKjoeller [n=NielsKjo@83.72.240.29.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
mjrI was just wondering if the frontends get something wrong05:17
=== Tzi [n=mike@60-240-230-198-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
mjryou can try eg. gnomebaker too thou05:17
Myrttierm.05:18
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injkav.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
MyrttiI got me a new cd-rw-burner, should I fiddle kernel to get the burning options on or should Ubuntu know what to do with the drive automatically?05:19
MyrttiI have no ideas on what words to use in Google05:19
MyrttiI tried, though05:19
qt2can someone recoomend some good dvd authoring software for linux?05:20
TziMyrtti: Ubuntu should hopefully sort it out itself =)05:20
=== sockpuppe1 [n=thewarma@68.199.211.123] has joined #ubuntu
seliniumHi all, is it possible to have a local folder with debs in and put it in the sources.list file as a repo?05:20
sockpuppe1anyone know where I can get blackbox skins05:21
sockpuppe1?05:21
skajaok when i try to install limodems i get this error05:21
joeeompaul: trying to start fluxbox I get: Make sure you started X before you start fluxbox05:21
skajaconfiguration of ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386:05:21
TziDoes anyone know if there's a trick to getting keyboard special keys working?  On my last system, running Hoary, my multimedia keys mapped to XF86AudioPlay, etc.. Then I could hop into gconf editor and set up metacity to listen for those keysyms...  Now, though, the keys aren't mapped to any symbol05:21
skaja ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386; however:05:21
skaja  Package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 is not installed.05:21
skajadpkg: error processing ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 (--install):05:21
skaja dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:21
skajaErrors were encountered while processing:05:21
skaja ltmodem-2.6.8-2-38605:21
HappyFoolskaja: please don't paste command output here05:22
seliniumskaja: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or you will get booted not help! :)05:22
sockpuppe1any one know a good spot for blackbox skins05:23
sockpuppe1?05:23
=== aesp [n=ae@ppp5-32.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu
seliniumskaja: by the looks of it you are using a different kernel05:23
letschatth17m4n, buddy i keep getting this error debfoster is unable to acquire a lock on the keeper file another debfoster process probably has it05:24
HappyFoolsockpuppe1: try #blackbox, or google05:24
v1ru5mjr: thx for the help, gnomebaker does the job :))05:24
sockpuppe1HappyFool why is it that your dialog is red?05:25
HappyFoolsockpuppe1: because i included your nick in the message05:25
mjrv1ru5, well good then05:25
joeeHappyFool: trying to start fluxbox I get: Make sure you started X before you start fluxbox05:25
sockpuppe1lol05:25
=== sockpuppe1 [n=thewarma@68.199.211.123] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
HappyFooljoee: so, is X started? (I don't used fluxbox)05:25
seliniumHi all, is it possible to have a local folder with debs in and put it in the sources.list file as a repo?05:25
HappyFooljoee: if i were you i would use GDM to login, and select fluxbox as the 'login session' (or whatever it's called)05:26
MuskoHi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.05:26
ompauljoee, have you still got gnome on the machine?05:26
HappyFooljoee: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'05:26
ompauljoee, what HappyFool said05:26
joeeompaul no05:26
=== spola [n=fstr@kotnet-150.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== basvg [n=basvg@loki.cs.kun.nl] has left #ubuntu []
joeecommand not found :/05:27
wouterlabeeuwjoe: or you can try by exec. xinit and than typing fluxbox in the shell to start fluxbox05:27
ompauljoee, apt-get install xserver-xorg05:28
=== catch_ [n=daniel@81-179-201-248.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFooljoee: you'll have to do what wouterlabeeuw suggests. there is a way to get xinit (or startx?) to use fluxbox as the first command, but i've forgotten what it is05:28
skajawhat kernel verson does ubuntu use05:28
HappyFool2.6.10 in hoary05:28
catch_Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please05:29
v1ru5how to see CPU use??05:29
v1ru5what command05:29
catch_v1ru5 : top05:29
=== shorty_ [n=shorty@shorty.arach.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
catch_Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please05:30
ompaulcatch_, please paste the repos have you got installed and we saw it first time05:30
TziWoah.. That's impressive05:30
ompaulcatch into a pastebin05:30
seliniumv1ru5:  or you can use Applications/System Tools/System Monitor05:30
ompaul!pastebin05:30
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:30
catch_ompaul : sorry though I wrote it in a different chan05:30
dabaRcatch_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl in other words.05:31
=== wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-173-207-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
seliniumIs it possible to set up a local repo?05:31
h17m4nwhats the use of BitRock Install Builder?05:31
wouterlabeeuwjoee, try xwmconfig and select fluxbox, then just type startx05:32
ompaulselinium,  anything is possible, what would you want to do that for?05:32
=== srid [n=srid2@unaffiliated/srid] has joined #ubuntu
catch_dabaR, ompaul : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/186205:32
=== joe_alf [n=joey_alf@pcd303050.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== bored2k [n=reb@103samana87.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu
TziAhh.. found my problem.. Incidentally if anyone else has a similar problem, and can't seem to get multimedia keys working.. Install xmodmap =)05:32
dabaRcatch_: how about sudo aptitude update, or apt-get update, does that reboot it?05:33
bored2kis there a real difference between using xine-ui and totem-xine ?05:33
seliniumompaul: I am compiling some debs, I want to put them somewhere they can be found easily and also can be used by synaptic to install un-install, that kind of thing!05:33
catch_dabaR : I haven't tried, it normally reboots part way through installing dbus05:33
dabaRTzi: Ill keep that in mind.05:33
catch_or updating i should say05:33
joeeompaul: xserver is installed05:33
ompaulselinium, well seems logical enough:)05:33
dabaRI have no idea.05:33
seliniumompaul: would you know how to though?05:34
ompaulselinium, I don't know the specifics but I can say that the best howto I ever saw on apt was on an ibm apt faq05:34
=== DavidChipman [n=david@CPE00e0292c27c4-CM000f212f943c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
dabaRselinium: look at a sources.list file, and the corresponding URl, and set up something like that on your computer.05:35
=== HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.111.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
DavidChipmanHi all!05:35
seliniumompaul: Cheers05:35
=== Diff-to-the-indo [i=bloodrun@duppp-141-158-166-85.nas0.lmyn.pa.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Diff-to-the-indo is now known as Diffindo
ompauljoee is gnome/kde running?05:35
seliniumdabaR: something like file:// ? or set up a directory on my webserver?05:35
joeeompaul no nothing I installed server-version of ubunut05:35
dabaRselinium: yes. to both.05:35
DavidChipmanDoes anybody know when I should set my root password?05:35
HiddenWolfDavidChipman, don't use root05:36
joeeDavidChipman during installation05:36
seliniumDavidChipman: You dont. use sudo05:36
dabaR!rootsudo05:36
uboturootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:36
=== bored2k [n=reb@103samana87.codetel.net.do] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
DavidChipmanBut how do I access my CD burner?05:36
catch_DavidChipman : you don't it's randomly generated, the first user created has sudo privilages, use that05:36
HiddenWolfjoee, ubuntu doesn't use root.05:36
DiffindoI'm looking for an open source util that will read/write to UDF formatted CD-RWs in Ubuntu05:36
joeeHiddenWolf yeah but the password you specify during installtion is your sudo passw05:37
mjrDavidChipman, via a burning program, such as nautilus-cd-burner05:37
ompauljoee the easy way to do this is 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' then install fluxbox then when the machine boots choose fluxbox05:37
DavidChipmanso, when sudo asks for a passwor, what do I enter?05:37
seliniumDavidChipman: Your password05:37
dabaRompaul: :) that is just wrong.05:37
DavidChipmanReally!?05:37
DavidChipmanI ry it05:37
dabaRto install the whole ubuntu-desktop, to get use of flubox:)05:37
catch_ompaul : do you have any idea why my box just dies part way through any apt-get ?05:37
seliniumDavidChipman: You would use sudo <command> then it will ask for your password05:38
DavidChipmanGot it now..05:38
ompaulcatch_, not after seeing that and you say you have dbus issues05:38
=== DavidChipman will now buzz-off
seliniumDavidChipman: Cool05:38
TziDavidChipman: You wouldn't happen to be an Australian, would you?05:38
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
joeeompaul okay gonna go for that05:38
joeethanks05:38
DavidChipmanNo, Canuck..05:38
catch_ompaul : other than a reinstall any sugestions?05:38
=== jorgp3 is now known as jorgp
TziOkay =) Just checking05:38
TziWould be a very small world05:38
DavidChipmanWhat? You know an Aussie with the attitude of a rhino-with-toothache? :)05:39
=== IntangibleLiquid [n=hey_mygr@58.186.38.66] has joined #ubuntu
=== IntangibleLiquid [n=hey_mygr@58.186.38.66] has left #ubuntu []
ompauldabaR, space is not the restriction, the guy was struggling to get the box up off the ground, I think it was the path of least resistance05:39
UbuntuN00bHow do I get to the Mixer?05:39
UbuntuN00bIs it "alseramix" in the terminal?05:39
=== bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9d77.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Bubblefly [n=Nanami@brndmb02dc1-220-1.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu
skajaubuntu kerenl verson 2.6.10 right05:40
TziUbuntuN00b: Tried double-clicking on the volume control in the panel?05:40
ompaulcatch_, well if you did apt-get install foo | tee > LogMe maybe it might help you find the last thing that happens before the machine goes down also check syslog enteries05:40
=== fivetwentysix [n=fivetwen@n219078247163.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
catch_ompaul ta will try it now05:41
=== Malin [n=malin@083142121204.unregistered.media-com.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bSO yeah. I also have a RAM Problem.05:41
fivetwentysixAnyone know if there's any program I can use newsgroups on? Like I could on Outlook Express on Windows?05:41
UbuntuN00bThe system's running at almost 100 percent, and all I have open is Gaim and IRC.05:41
=== pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziUbuntuN00b: May be a runaway process.. See if there's anything sus in the system monitor05:42
lakcajUbuntuN00b, what does top say?  You might have a runaway process05:42
TziSnap05:42
=== lakcaj owes Tzi a coke :)
fivetwentysixWould USB sound work on Ubuntu ???05:43
TziI like my version better.. Less terminal reliance :P05:43
TziHehe05:43
mjrfivetwentysix, it should05:43
=== LathropWells [n=lathropw@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3855982.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00b84% of Memory in use. 32% of which is cached.05:43
zblachhi. network printing to windows machines?05:43
mjrfivetwentysix, the next version improves hotplug sound handling, though05:43
ompaulfivetwentysix, there are several, personally I would use thunderbird http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq <-- will tell you how to if you need that level of help05:43
ompaulUbuntuN00b, how much ram have you got?05:43
lakcajUbuntuN00b, you are looking for a single process that it using a high % of your CPU resources.05:44
=== thrush_2 [n=thrush_2@bhag.csaa.com] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bI think it's either 128 or 25605:44
UbuntuN00bIt's an old compaq that i'm jst using to get used to linux05:44
ompaulUbuntuN00b, use the command 'free'05:45
UbuntuN00bIn terminal, right?05:45
ompaulUbuntuN00b,  yes, if it says total  256812 then you have 256 :)05:45
UbuntuN00b     total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached05:45
UbuntuN00bMem:        127024     125156       1868          0       1032      4074405:45
UbuntuN00b-/+ buffers/cache:      83380      4364405:45
UbuntuN00bSwap:       369452      44912     32454005:45
UbuntuN00b:(05:45
Tzi(Be careful with pasting here, by the way)05:46
UbuntuN00bSOrry. :)05:46
UbuntuN00bJust wanted to show.05:46
ompaulUbuntuN00b, okay, you have 128, and second do not paste output in here :) it will get you kicked use a pastebin like http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl05:46
=== Bwl [n=orange@fobie.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziOpen system monitor, and click on the column header marked '% CPU'..05:46
=== pax [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #ubuntu
v1ru5is there a command to force CDrom drive to eject??05:46
v1ru5the motherfucker stays closed05:47
v1ru5:/05:47
TziSort in descending order.. If there's a process at the top using a large amount of cpu, that's a problem05:47
Tziv1ru5: I know exactly what you mean =) sudo eject -f05:47
UbuntuN00bBut, if it's a ram problem...then what05:47
ompaulv1ru5, language and the command is 'sudo eject /media/disk'05:47
TziThen you need more ram =)05:47
UbuntuN00bPoop. lol05:47
zblachv1ru5, right-click on the icon on desktop and 'eject'05:48
MuskoHi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.05:48
UbuntuN00bWHy doesn't it slow down when I'm running windows?05:48
ompaulUbuntuN00b, u useing win 98 or some such?05:48
BwlA05:48
UbuntuN00bXP.05:48
TziUbuntuN00b: Out of curiosity...  'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda'05:48
=== aRAchNiON [n=arachnio@d51A49FA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== maximaus [n=max@adsl-32-211-186.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bWhat do you want me to copy and paste?05:49
ompaulUbuntuN00b, pastebin05:50
TziChuck it into the pastebin if you like..05:50
=== pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #ubuntu
Tzi!pastebin05:50
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:50
UbuntuN00bK, it's there.05:50
ompaulUbuntuN00b, and while your pasting cat /proc/cpuinfo across into pastebin05:50
ompaulUbuntuN00b, >> cat /proc/cpuinfo <<05:51
UbuntuN00bWhere do I put that?05:51
UbuntuN00blol05:51
ompaulterminal and pastebin05:51
qt2can someone recoomend some good dvd authoring software for linux?05:51
zblachcan hoary auto-detect network printers?05:51
TziWoaaahhhhhhh05:52
TziDamn05:52
TziUbuntuN00b: You have a driver problem05:52
Tzi143 Mb/s cached reads, 15 Mb/s disk reads... ouch =)05:52
MuskoOk, that it! I'm going back to Win3.105:52
UbuntuN00bPosted that one you wanted me to05:52
TziWin 3.1? Pah... Dos 6.2, baby05:52
UbuntuN00bcat /proc/cpuinfo05:53
MuskoI have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.05:53
ompaulUbuntuN00b, put that in a pastebin05:53
TziIt is..05:53
UbuntuN00bYEah, it's there.05:53
TziSo.. Presumably your drive isn't that slow.. is DMA on?05:53
Tzihdparm -d /dev/hda05:53
Tzi(that's just a one-liner.. You can put that here)05:54
UbuntuN00bjerry@geleff:~$ hdparm -d /dev/hda05:54
UbuntuN00b/dev/hda: Permission denied05:54
Tzisudo hdparm -d /dev/hda05:54
=== FlangeR [n=Katink@cc843981-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00b using_dma    =  1 (on)05:55
TziOkay.. So perhaps the chipset driver isn't loaded05:55
ompaulUbuntuN00b, if you handed a command that does not work and gives permission denied usually it is a matter of putting 'sudo' in front of the command :) this allows you have super user powers on the machine :)05:55
UbuntuN00boh alright. :)05:56
UbuntuN00bcoo.05:56
TziHehe.. super user.. Just remember to put your cape on05:56
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
zblachi'm having trouble setting up network printers. has anyone gotten them to work?05:56
TziSo.. can anyone suggest a module to load to make that cache read faster?05:56
TziUbuntuN00b: Try googling/searching on ubuntuforums.org for your machine05:56
seliniumompaul: It looks like I can sort a local repos, but it is looking for a Packages.gz? Would you know what it is supposed to contain?05:57
=== thrush_2 [n=thrush_2@bhag.csaa.com] has joined #ubuntu
zblach*sigh* network printing. not easy in ubuntu?05:57
ompaulselinium, I will ask around - hang on a sec05:57
seliniumompaul: cheers05:57
fivetwentysixOK, I can't get my usb sound to work, seems like I need drivers for it, it's the Steel 5H USB edition C-media drivers I need. I can't seem to find it anywhere.05:57
h17m4ndoes anyone know if I could just install fglrx from synaptic?05:58
=== XandriX [n=slack@unaffiliated/xandrix] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nor how to check what driver is installed for the video card05:58
thrush_2h17m4n, seems to be there..05:58
reikizblach: my very first ubuntu setup05:58
LathropWellsmaybe ubotu knows about fglrx05:58
zblachreiki, how'd you do it?05:59
reikiI printed to an Epson shared on another machine05:59
ompaulselinium, take a pm?05:59
LathropWells!fglrx05:59
ubotuhmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:59
seliniumompaul: sure05:59
ompaulselinium, its long :)05:59
UbuntuN00bSOrry, I was on the phone.05:59
=== srid [n=srid2@unaffiliated/srid] has left #ubuntu []
seliniumlol05:59
UbuntuN00bWhat do I search for now?05:59
=== skaja [i=user@user-2injk2t.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
TziUbuntuN00b: What's your machine?05:59
reikizblach: going from memory here... (and I'm 52 so....)  I seem to recall having to set up an lpr printer and enter the IP and preinter sharename05:59
UbuntuN00bCompaq something or other.05:59
TziI'd be looking to see if anyone else has had similar probs with the same hardware06:00
FlangeRCan someone pls help me with setting up my usb palm? I've followed ubuntuguide and usb howto's, added rules in /etc/udev/rules, and still nothing seems to work. Help pls?06:00
=== brenner [n=Unknown@WNPP-p-203-54-24-126.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
zblachreiki, thats somewhat complicated. nothing with samba?06:00
UbuntuN00bHum, i'm trying to find the model06:00
UbuntuN00bPresario06:01
TziIn particular, look for cache speed06:01
TziCos 145mb/s is really slow.. You should be getting in the order of 600mb/s, really06:02
UbuntuN00bWHere do I get that?06:02
=== robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-170-119.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziIn reads from your hard disk06:02
UbuntuN00bSo, I need to look at my hard drive?06:03
TziIt's more likely to be your chipset..06:03
TziBut it'll certainly be a factor in your system being slow06:03
lakcajUbuntuN00b, what does lspci say?  Does it give details on the PCI or Host Bridge?06:04
FlangeRIf nobody can help me, does anybody know where I could get more help?06:04
TziIs it just me, or does evolution really, really suck?06:04
UbuntuN00blspci?06:04
h17m4nwould it be safe to delete the ndiswrapper folders that I used to set it up from my home folder? it has a lock on it06:04
lsuactiafnerwhats the program that keeps redoing my menu's after i use apt?06:04
TziFlangeR: I'd be seeing if you can get device ids from the usb system.. And googling for them06:04
=== JDahl [n=joachim@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2t1-68.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has left #ubuntu []
TziFlangeR: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices, then look for your device, and find the vendor/product ids just above it (on the line that starts 'P:')06:05
FlangeRTzi, from var/log/messages right?06:05
skajawhat is that pase it site06:07
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
Tzi!pastebin06:07
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:07
LathropWells!flood06:07
ubotu[flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.06:07
BwlTzi: Heh, you understood what he said. :P06:07
brennerlsuactiafner: usually done by gnome-panel restarting06:07
TziBwl: I'll have you know I detect 5 bit errors, and correct 2 :P06:08
UbuntuN00b:( Am I doomed?06:08
TziUbuntuN00b: Someone probably will've got that hardware working..06:08
TziJust type 'lspci' and look for 'pci bridge' stuff06:09
UbuntuN00bCan you find anything on it?06:09
UbuntuN00bWhere do I type that?06:09
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
brennerapps > sys tools > terminal06:09
skajacan some one help with this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/186106:09
TziOn the refrigerator.. :P06:09
TziIs it just me, or does Evolution completely suck?06:10
TziI really, really wanna use it...06:10
UbuntuN00b!pastebin06:10
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:10
TziBut it self-destructs all the bloody time=)06:10
Tziskaja: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-38606:10
UbuntuN00bOk, I pasted.06:10
skajai cant get online06:10
brennerskaja: er, i think that package is broken06:11
=== brenner can't find a kernel-image package
brennerTzi: breezy?06:11
skajagrr when where do i get lt modems06:11
TziUbuntuN00b: sudo modprobe via82cxxx06:11
skaja!tell skaja about ltmodems06:12
UbuntuN00bIt asked for a password, and nothing happened.06:12
Tzibrenner: You can't find any? That's weird..06:12
TziUbuntuN00b: Cool.. You should be right now.. Just test again - sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda06:12
brennerTzi: can you? :-/06:12
brennerclosest i get is kernel-image-netbootable06:13
TziOh =) linux-image06:13
UbuntuN00b Timing cached reads:   288 MB in  2.01 seconds = 143.09 MB/sec06:13
UbuntuN00b Timing buffered disk reads:   34 MB in  3.01 seconds =  11.30 MB/sec06:13
TziOh, blah06:13
FlangeRTzi, thanks for your last advice, but what when I can't find my device listed in proc/usb/devices?06:13
brennerskaja: where'd you get the deb file?06:13
UbuntuN00bPoopie.06:13
=== bobbyd [n=bobby@195.137.31.171] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
LathropWellsUbuntuNOOB - am seeing the same numbers here. - seems okay no?06:14
TziFlangeR: Oh, joy =) Okay, so it doesn't even register the device name, that means it either is entirely unsupported, or it is supported but not known.  I'd go through the devices, discount the ones you know aren't your device, and search for the ones that might be06:14
brennerskaja: an apt-cache search on 'ltmodem' returns some linux-restricted-modules packages....maybe get one of those06:14
TziFlangeR: Just do a google search for the vendor/product ids06:14
skajawww.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem06:14
UbuntuN00bLathropWells: It's slow. :-p06:14
skajawww.close.u-net.com/ltmodem.html06:14
flodineanyone running breezy?06:15
LathropWellsIt is fast enough for Unreal Tournament.06:15
TziLathropWells: 143mb/s cached?  Sounds nasty to me06:15
FlangeRok, thanks06:15
Tziflodine: Yep =)06:15
brennerskaja: you used the debian package right?06:15
skajayep06:15
brennerskaja: probably configged for debian then06:15
brennerskaja: get the source, and then use checkinstall to install06:15
brennerto make things easy06:16
flodineevery time i run breezy the bootloader doesnt work why?06:16
lsuactiafnerneh not gnome panel restarting that makes blackbox get new menus, don't have gdm running @ all or gnome06:16
=== kayfelix [n=root@dsl-213-023-249-241.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
lsuactiafnersome program keeps redoing my custum blackbox menu when i do apt-get upgrade06:16
lsuactiafnerand its very annoying06:16
skajai even used http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/ubuntu-ltmodem-2.6.10-5-386_8.31a13_i386.deb06:16
Tziflodine: Whatcha mean doesn't work06:16
UbuntuN00bTzi: ANy other ideas? :(06:17
flodinewell breezy just dont boot06:17
flodineget a black scrren06:17
ompaul!breezy06:17
ubotuwell, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:17
=== IceDC571 [i=Ice@c-24-4-178-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziUbuntuN00b: So you mentioned your CPU hovers around 100%.. Have you determined what process is causing it?06:17
UbuntuN00bNo.06:17
UbuntuN00bCPU Runs around 15.06:18
Tziflodine: Hmm.. How far does it get?06:18
UbuntuN00bMY Ram is running high06:18
TziAh..06:18
=== NielsKjoeller [n=NielsKjo@83.72.240.29.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #ubuntu []
youngcoderHappyFool, ?06:18
IceDC571does the sound blaster x-fi work on ubuntu?06:18
HappyFoolyoungcoder: you called?06:18
TziMy ram runs high too, and I have 512 mb.. Linux tends to.. expand a bit, to fill the space available, which isn't necessarily a bad thing06:18
youngcoderheya bud06:18
TziIs it particulary slow?06:18
HappyFoolthat beep-on-nick thing has it's uses ;)06:18
brennerubotu: tell IceDC571 about hardware06:18
youngcoderim compiling the 2.6.13 kernel and figured i would stop by and check to see how you are doing06:18
HappyFooleek06:19
HappyFooldo you need the new kernel?06:19
youngcoderno06:19
UbuntuN00bTzi: It's alot slow.06:19
youngcoderjust wanted to compile it06:19
youngcoderbut06:19
UbuntuN00bI guess I need to buy more?06:19
brennerHappyFool: what irc client you using?06:19
HappyFoolok. make sure to keep the ubuntu one around if/when things go wrong ;)06:19
HappyFoolbrenner: emacs erc06:19
brennerbah06:19
=== ompaul lost a brain cell or two how do you use echo to return the contents of a sub directory
youngcoderi do have 2 computers that are solely for experimental purposes06:19
HappyFoolbrenner: but x-chat does something similar06:19
HappyFool'echo *'06:20
brennerHappyFool: yes...i never managed to get it working.  why i asked. :)06:20
youngcoderbrenner, what error are you getting with x-chat?06:20
HappyFoolyoungcoder: fair enough06:20
IceDC571hmm.. the alsa pages dont mention anything about the soundblaster x-fi.. looks like linux developers dont care about new hardware06:20
ompaulHappyFool, sorry I want the contents of those :) ahh I'll play with xargs and some other stuff for a minute or so06:20
brenneryoungcoder: not an error persay, just can't work it out. :)06:20
=== jsgotangco [n=jsg@info1-232.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu
flodineTzi i install breezy the same way i do hoary but when it says its done and reboot it doesnt06:21
youngcoderbrenner, well if you expalin i might can help06:21
brennerIceDC571: or someone hasn't submitted their success yet. :P06:21
LathropWellsIceDC - did you search sourceforge? freshmeat?06:21
HappyFoolompaul: echo */* ?06:21
IceDC571haha... damn creative06:21
youngcoderi cant config samba but i love x-chat :)06:21
brenneryoungcoder: ok, how would i go about getting a sound to play when someone posts with my name in it?06:21
=== Webby` [n=Webby`@ool-18b8c5ee.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulHappyFool, thanks thats the one06:22
brennerer, preferrably no the beep either. :)06:22
fivetwentysixIs there a program i can use to convert videos to psp format?06:22
UbuntuN00bTzi: SO, basically I buy more?06:22
IceDC571i dont think they release open source drivers because alsa is a lot more successful than they'll ever be06:22
UbuntuN00bfivetwentysix: pspvideo 906:22
ompaulHappyFool, was looking at ls -R but then you have to strip out the directory names - yuk06:22
flodinecan someone tell me why hoary doesnt update to kernel 2.6.12?06:22
HappyFoolompaul: i'd probably use find with -exec06:22
fivetwentysixthanks06:22
brennerflodine: security updates only iirc06:23
fivetwentysixIs that available on repositries?06:23
youngcodersettings-->sound-->your messege06:23
=== elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-2-gre-82-250-47-180.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
elvirolohi all06:23
TziUbuntuN00b: More ram is always good..06:23
youngcoderbrenner, settings-->sound-->your messege06:23
flodinehas anyone updateed there hoary to kernel to 2.6.1206:23
youngcoderbrenner, then select a sound06:23
brenneryoungcoder: k, now i know which event...what do i put in sound playing method?06:23
TziUbuntuN00b: I dunno really, without actually being physically at the computer there's not much more I could suggest06:24
UbuntuN00bTzi: YEs. WHat doed Ubuntu run on anyway?06:24
UbuntuN00bHow much ram06:24
Tziflodine: I'm 2.6.12-6-68606:24
elviroloi just upgraded to breezy ... and the boot process halts at "checking battery state" (although i don't have a laptop)06:24
ompaulHappyFool, it ends up getting pumped through ogg123 -z  move a few files in and out randomly and you get a continious playlist of all availabe muzac that works for the purposes here06:24
elviroloideas anyone?06:24
TziUbuntuN00b: You what now?06:24
youngcoderbrenner, automatic doesnt work?06:24
flodineTzi you on breezy06:24
Tziflodine: Yup06:24
brenneryoungcoder: hang on.. just changed. can you post something again? :)06:24
UbuntuN00bTzi: How much ram does ubunto use06:24
TziOh06:24
TziDuh06:24
brenneryoungcoder: actually, i heard the sound...when _i_ post. :)06:25
TziUbuntuN00b: I've got 512mb, currently 487mb used06:25
ompaulUbuntuN00b, as much as you can put in your machine, though in your case half a gig would be fantastic06:25
youngcoderbrenner, thats a start06:25
TziMind you, I ask a lot of my machine...06:25
flodinewell has anyone on 5.04 updated there kernel?06:25
elvirolohas anyone experienced the same prob as me ?06:25
=== Webby` loves Ubuntu
UbuntuN00bOmpaul: I have 1024 in my other desktop, but im experimenting here before i move to that one06:25
youngcoderbrenner, have you selected an event for your messege?06:26
UbuntuN00bI love Linux, I'm just so sucky at commands and such.06:26
Tzielvirolo: Sounds irritating =) Have you googled/searched ubuntuforums?06:26
ompaulUbuntuN00b, then you will be fine06:26
UbuntuN00bPlus, I don't like some of the compatibility issues.06:26
elviroloTzi: i have :(06:26
brenneryoungcoder: "your message" is for when the user posts06:26
brenneryoungcoder: just working out which one is the trigger for when someone posts to _me_06:26
Tzielvirolo: Try booting with 'noacpi'06:26
UbuntuN00bLike. I want most of my Windows programs to run06:26
brenneryoungcoder: sound seems to work though. *thumbs up*06:26
UbuntuN00bBut, that's not possible.06:26
elviroloTzi: oh yeah, good idea, i hadn't thought of that06:26
elvirolothanks06:27
adjacenthmm. im new to ubuntu's packages... where is smbmount?06:27
brenneryoungcoder: can you try again pls?06:27
Tzielvirolo: Or mv /etc/rc2.d/S99acpi-support /etc/rc2.d/K99acpi-support, if that doesn't work06:27
adjacentmount -t smbfs gives an error about no support in dmesg06:27
TziBut it should06:28
youngcoderbrenner, does it work ?06:28
HappyFooladjacent: try -t cifs ?06:28
=== weo [n=weo@p5499D627.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFooladjacent: or do 'sudo modprobe smbfs' and try again06:28
brennerno, not that time either.....i'll just ask #xchat....thanks though!06:28
youngcoderbrenner, any luck?06:28
TziSo.. Has anyone else had issues with Evolution showing a blank inbox? (Even though mine's currently reporting 1 new message)06:28
TziOther folders seem to be fine06:29
=== tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Rayen [n=borgirc-@c529cabae.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
adjacentHappyFool: smbfs is loaded. still eroors06:29
adjacentHappyFool: im playing with cifs now06:29
brenneryoungcoder: i think i got it this time...06:29
youngcoderwhich one was it?06:29
HappyFooladjacent: smbmount is in the 'smbfs' package06:29
brenneryoungcoder: nvm, didn't work. :)06:30
youngcoderbrenner, i personal dont have it set that way but i am curious06:30
brenneroh! i heard it!06:30
youngcoderbrenner, did you try the beep ?06:30
Rayenhi, i was wondering if is possible to install Ubuntu on a small ISO (less than 100 MB) ?06:30
brenneryoungcoder: i think it's "channel msg highlight"06:30
youngcoderahh06:30
youngcodertry that06:30
HappyFooladjacent: smbfs is dependent on smbclient, which is in turn dependent on ubuntu-desktop (and kubuntu-desktop), so on a normal install you should have it06:30
youngcoderthat would make sense06:31
HappyFoolRayen: not easily, i don't think, but i may be wrong06:31
youngcoderbrenner, any luck?06:31
brenneryoungcoder: yep...that's the one!06:31
youngcoderbrenner, woot06:31
brenneryoungcoder: thanks for your testing. :)06:31
adjacentHappyFool: that was it. i had samba-common, etc installed, but smbfs was messed up06:31
adjacentHappyFool: thanks06:31
youngcoderbrenner, trial and error my friend06:31
HappyFooladjacent: np06:31
brennereveryone else: sorry for flooding. :P06:31
youngcoderbrenner, thank for helping me flood its my hobby :P06:31
HappyFoolRayen: you can experiment with the 'expert' install mode and see how little you can install06:31
=== Tritis [n=Tritis@ool-4355bbb1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
RayenHappyFool That's great! I will try that :)06:32
=== rushi [n=rushi@thing1.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
brennerHappyFool: i think he wants a samll iso, not a small install. :-/06:32
brenner*small06:32
TritisAnyone know how to fix the gnome1 fonts in GnuCash?06:32
RayenHappyFool is there any documentation for the expert install  ?06:32
HappyFooloh06:32
HappyFoolRayen: oops, my mistake06:32
=== spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolRayen: i didn't notice the 'ISO' bit there06:33
Rayenhehe06:33
=== amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== rushi [n=rushi@thing1.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
Rayenso I need to get the 600/700 MB file?06:33
brennerRayen: afaik, no....the ISOs available are all there is06:33
brenneri think so, yes06:33
Rayenok06:33
brennertehre's shipit06:33
rushihi, re. breezy kernel, does anyone know if radeonfb patch allowing radeon_force_sleep will be included?06:33
brenner*there's06:33
brennerRayen: you can get the cds shipped to you for free if you can wait06:34
=== moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Virtuall is now known as Virtuall[BZA]
=== Roots [i=olsen@adsl-67-65-8-167.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Filbert [n=Filbert@d51A479B5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
amepI have a laptop that fails during suspend to RAM (goes down, but oopses on the way up before the screen lights up). The machine is a Compaq R3000z AMD64 system and I used the dailly CD image of yesterdat. How should I go about debugging? and is suspend to RAM a target for breezy so should I even bother? Suspend to disk worked.06:34
moparfan90hello. i have mplayer installed but cant watch this movie... i get this error and then the movie sound starts playing... its a .wmv06:35
moparfan90what do i do?06:35
=== meeep [n=pontus@h27n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
Webby`momparfan90: you need the w32codecs06:35
moparfan90how do i get that06:36
moparfan90?06:36
meeephi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?06:36
=== Gorth [n=Gorth@c-24-1-206-136.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthis free-java-sdk all i need to start programming in java?06:36
Gorth(is that the same SDK i'd get off the sun website)06:36
Webby`momparfan90: It's on this page: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html click on the one that says all06:36
moparfan90Webby`, how do i get that?06:36
moparfan90o06:36
meeepgorth06:36
Gorthyes meeep?06:36
meeepgorth, download the JDK and netbeans from sun's homepage06:36
brenner!java06:36
ubotuhmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:37
aRAchNiONhello everyone, I'm working on a sound problem06:37
aRAchNiONwhen I do "fuser /dev/dsp"06:37
brenneri think that coveres jdk as well06:37
aRAchNiONI get the following notice:06:37
Gorthah06:37
aRAchNiONarachnion@Spanky:~$ fuser /dev/dsp06:37
aRAchNiON/dev/.static/dev: Permission denied06:37
brenner*covers06:37
Gorththanks ya'll06:37
aRAchNiONdoes anyone have an idea what this means?06:37
meeephi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?06:37
Gorthi assume sun-j2sdk1.5 comes straight from sun??06:38
meeepGorth, correct06:38
brennerGorth: seems so06:38
meeepthats the one you should use!06:38
Gorththanks ya'll!06:38
Gorth:D06:38
meeepdarn, does any1 here know how to make a script?06:39
meeep!script06:39
ubotumeeep: Bugger all, i dunno06:39
=== Virtuall[BZA] is now known as Virtuall
Gorthis cedega worth 5 dollars a month?06:40
Gorthor does WINE do just as good of a job :O06:40
Gorthor should i break down and reboot to windows everytime i want to play my games :("06:40
=== pajama [n=ricardo@207.250.uio.satnet.net] has joined #ubuntu
brennercedega cvs is free iirc ... not sure of the functionality hit it takes though06:41
Gorthindeed06:41
Gorththanks06:41
brennersadly, i still dualboot for gaming06:41
Gorth:(06:41
brennerexcept for q3 :)06:41
Gorthi just don't have any firewalls or anti virus deals on my windows partition06:41
Gorth(and i don't really need em on my linux partition :O)06:42
amepbrenner: the CVS version doesn't have the install shield support so installing the games is hard.06:42
=== seife [n=arturo_m@200.85.75.85] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthso i hate getting on windows06:42
=== asdc [n=sox@198.Red-81-38-218.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifehi06:42
seifei just installed ubuntu06:42
seifefirst time using this OS06:42
seifeive used windows all my life06:42
seifetell me what u guys recommend to me06:42
brenneramep: interesting.  i heard dx9 support doesn't exist either?06:42
Gorthseife: that's a pretty broad request06:42
aRAchNiONseife, anything in particular?06:42
brennerGorth: just get zone-alarm and avast06:43
youngcoderHappyFool, you said to make sure i keep the hoary kernel06:43
meeepdarn, does any1 here know how to make a script?06:43
asdcsorry, i don't want to be boring06:43
seifeok06:43
HappyFoolyoungcoder: yip06:43
seifehelp06:43
Gorththanks brenner06:43
seifei have never used this lol06:43
asdcbut i have some problems with my apt06:43
seifei would like to install the sound06:43
seifeto hear some music06:43
amepbrenner: I don't know. It been a while since I looked I just know that installshield is copyright incumbered so it cannot be released for free.06:43
aRAchNiONseife ;) that can be a bit of a problem06:43
seifewhat type of music files can i listen to in linux?06:43
=== Tzi [n=mike@60-240-230-198-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
asdcReading package lists... Done06:43
asdcBuilding dependency tree... Done06:43
asdcYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:06:43
asdcThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:43
asdc  amule: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed06:43
seifewhy?06:43
asdc         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed06:43
asdc         Depends: libwxbase2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed06:43
HappyFoolyoungcoder: you should be able to have multiple kernels (and related files) in /boot06:43
asdc         Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed06:43
youngcoderHappyFool, not sure im gonna install it because i have heard nothing but bad things but i might06:43
asdc  ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gimp but it is not going to be installed06:43
aRAchNiONubuntu seems to have some sound issues06:43
asdc                  Depends: gstreamer0.8-x but it is not going to be installed06:43
HappyFoolasdc: please don't paste in here06:43
asdc                  Depends: ttf-baekmuk but it is not going to be installed06:44
asdc                  Depends: ttf-kochi-gothic but it is not going to be installed06:44
asdc                  Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installedE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).06:44
brennerasdc: DON'T paste!06:44
youngcoderHappyFool, that is what i was hoping06:44
asdcoops06:44
asdcsorry06:44
aRAchNiONtry and test your sound by doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp06:44
asdcsorry sorry!06:44
HappyFoolyoungcoder: the risk is probably not that great06:44
brennerasdc: in future, use a pastebin for > 3 lines06:44
seifewtf is that cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?06:44
youngcoderHappyFool, ya i can always revert back06:44
brenner!pastebin06:44
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:44
aRAchNiONoh sorry, seife, you know how to use terminals?06:44
seifewhere i have to put that.06:44
seifeno, this is first time i use this06:44
seifelol06:44
brenner!terminal06:44
uboturumour has it, terminal is in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.06:44
brennerseife: ^^^06:44
=== moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
moparfan90helo again06:45
=== jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-112.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu
moparfan90where are the codecs for mplayer ?06:46
brennerasdc: you might be missing some repos06:46
brenner!repos06:46
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:46
meeepgeez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(06:46
brennermoparfan90: on the mplayer site06:46
moparfan90i read the read me its not where they said it would be>06:47
moparfan90?\06:47
asdcbrenner and i solve it in the /etc/apt/sources.list ??06:47
brennermoparfan90: er didn't Webby` tell you how already?06:47
=== huhmz [n=huhmz@h47n2fls33o888.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
brennerasdc: yes06:48
moparfan90no just the site06:48
huhmzHi. How can I see all the messages from when the computer is booting? that is the output of the init scripts, not just /var/log/messages06:48
asdcso I have to change some repositories.... there is a list in the ubunto page?06:48
=== athlon [n=athlon@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== smalltux [i=david@c-c7b9e055.17-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
asdcok06:49
asdcthanks06:49
Seveasmoparfan90, ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net06:50
brennerhuhmz: dmesg | less06:50
huhmzbrenner: no06:50
brennerasdc: there's a sample one on the second link in ubotu's last post06:51
athlonve never burnt a dvd+rw before, is there any other parameter that I have to set or will k3b recognize that the media is rewriteable ?06:51
asdcok06:51
=== zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.199.53] has joined #ubuntu
asdci'm just on it06:51
=== catch_ [n=daniel@81-178-112-59.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
catch_hi, I was having a problem earlyer which a couple of you were helping me with, when ever I did any apt-get upgrade function my machine froze or rebooted06:53
=== jeang [n=jeang@c7-dbn-167.absamail.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
moparfan90Seveas, whats that?06:54
catch_I've narrowed it down to the deletion of a couple of files, when i try and do it by hand as root (sudo su) it also causes my machine to die06:54
meeepgeez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(06:54
moparfan90ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net, nevermind06:54
catch_They seem to just be readme files and changelogs in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-106:54
=== s_wart [i=swart@4096.garda.sk] has joined #ubuntu
catch_I was wondering if anyone would know why deleting them would cause my machine to suddently die06:55
Gorthis there a repository with netbeans?06:55
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== pmazer [n=pmazer@r73h69.res.gatech.edu] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthor do i just have to MANUALLY DO THAT ONE06:55
pmazeranyone know of a program like squirrelmail that might be better?06:55
Gorthubuntu's made me lazy :(06:55
s_wartcan someone point me to a FAQ page on how to upgrade from hoary?06:55
Gorththere's a new one?06:56
s_wartjust want to get some newer packages06:56
brenners_wart: you sure you want to?06:56
brenner:)06:56
s_wartI just restaged an hour ago. I will do it again if necessary :)06:56
brennerGorth: breezy....will be officially released in october06:57
brenner!upgrade06:57
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:57
Gorthah06:57
s_wartbrilliant. thanks vm06:57
Gorththanks brenner06:57
brenners_wart: replace warty with hoary, and hoary with breezy. :)06:57
=== ubercompuser [n=ubercomp@adsl-211-157-24.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
catch_brenner : how stable is breezy?06:57
ubercompuseri woud like to know on a 3 pin fan connector. what colors are what?06:57
Gorthwho makes these names?!06:57
=== unvs [n=unvs@c-ac6fe353.04-80-6f736c3.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu
brennercatch_: can't say personally having never used it.....people who have have said it goes back and forth between being broken06:58
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifeanyone can help me06:59
seifei want to install sound card06:59
=== XiDuS [n=rugg@2001:4840:ffff:c013:204:5aff:fe7c:89f8] has joined #ubuntu
=== Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
seifeto get sound on speakers :(06:59
seifeim newb06:59
catch_do you or anyone else know why trying to delete txt files in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-1 would cause my machine to die?06:59
RayenIs Debian able to install/work with -all- Ubuntu (Apt-Get) Packages ?06:59
=== mumbles [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
brennercatch_: define die. :)07:00
brennerRayen: afaik, it's a bad idea to mix the two07:00
SeveasRayen, ubuntu is not debian07:01
Seveasdon't mix repositories07:01
brennerthey're different distros and as such have different configs07:01
mumblesyay - my wirewing worked first time for once07:01
catch_brenner : either the screen goes black and the box reboots or it hangs, I assume the kernel is dead when it hangs07:01
seifeis anyone helping me :( ?07:01
Gorthwhat do i need to install with aptitude to get all the compilers?07:01
Gorthwithout having to do them separately??07:01
SeveasGorth, build-essential07:01
brennerseife: do you get any sound at all?07:01
Gorthseveas, thanks07:01
=== moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
Rayenbrenner but Ubuntu is able to work with Debian?!07:01
SeveasGorth, that does not include java compilers however07:02
moparfan90hello. ok i added the codecs and still get a error07:02
=== __filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthgcj?07:02
SeveasGorth, not in hoary07:02
=== Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-154-135-238.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolRayen: ubuntu is based on debian, but there can be binary incompatabilities (e.g., libc version)07:02
Webby`Did you restart your xomputer?07:02
Maikeruhey07:02
seifeno i dont07:02
__filip_how can i mount my hda6 that is an ext3 partition?07:02
seifeim TOTALLY newb.07:02
MaikeruI have an older laptop and am using the DWL-650 Revision P PCMCIA card.07:02
moparfan90no. do i have to?07:03
MaikeruI have been on google for hours trying to find information07:03
Seveas__filip_, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /path/to/desired/mountpoint07:03
MaikeruI finally got ndiswrapper working and loaded the winxp drivers through it07:03
moparfan90Webby`, do i have to?07:03
brennerRayen: use ubuntu packages/repos07:03
__filip_Seveas: ok07:03
Webby`i think so07:03
moparfan90ok07:03
moparfan90brb07:03
Rayenok07:03
SeveasMaikeru, yeah ndiswrapper is a bitch sometimes07:03
Maikerundiswrapper -l says that the netprism is loaded07:03
MaikeruWell, I do iwconfig wlan0 and ifconfig wlan007:04
Maikeruneither can find it07:04
brennerseife: not even when you click on icons?  (i.e. the drum sound)07:04
MaikeruI'm tired and just want to get on the net via my laptop07:04
Maikerucan anybody -please- walk me through this07:04
SeveasMaikeru, what does ndiswrapper -l say?07:04
Seveasit should say 'driver present, hardware present'07:05
MaikeruBTW: Kernel 2.6.10-5-386, Ubuntu Hoary release07:05
=== El_Che [n=claudio@213.193.225.53] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasah07:05
Maikerunetprism driver present07:05
Seveasswitch to linux-686 (pentium processor) or linux-k7 (amd)07:05
El_Chesmall question: any idea why dvi will work on the console but not on X?07:05
Seveasthe -386 has been troublesome with ndiswrapper07:05
flodinecan ubuntu uzip mpg files07:05
MaikeruHrm07:06
Seveasflodine, that makes no sense....07:06
MaikeruEr07:06
MaikeruCan I speak to you in PM real quick?07:06
Seveasmpg files are not zips07:06
SeveasMaikeru, sure07:06
=== chumphries [n=chris@fluffy.unixfu.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifeno07:07
seifenot sound at all07:07
ubercompuserwhich connectors on a 3 pin fan represent07:07
brennerseife: have a read of this then: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/07:07
seifebrenner07:07
seifei have sound07:07
brennerseife: search the forum if none of that works07:07
seifeon my headphones07:07
seifewhen i click icons07:07
seifebut i dont get sound07:08
seifeon the speakers07:08
=== Jhair [n=jhair@p54A3F7DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
GorthSOUNDS like speaker problems!07:08
chumphrieshello, i installed server package, and postfix is installed and running, and i can netcat to port 25 locally, yet not remotely, iptables allows port 25 in, and that is correct. also why are a lot of microsoft looking services look like they are running except samba is not installed.07:08
=== a_monkey [n=elmunky@user-0can33s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifethe speakers needs a CD to be installed07:08
moparfan90hello again07:08
seifei ise to use that cd07:09
seifein windows07:09
seifebut i dunno if i can use it on linux07:09
moparfan90i restarted and it doesnt wok07:09
a_monkeygcc 3.3.5 is a huge man page, and i don't feel like scrolling thru the whole thing in a terminal shell07:09
a_monkeyany way i can see the gcc 3.3.5 man page as html or something?07:09
lonewolffinstall man2html07:10
lonewolffman2html - Turns a web-browser and an httpd-server into a man pager07:10
lonewolffor use stuff on tldp.org07:10
a_monkeyum07:10
a_monkeyok07:10
Jhaira_monkey, emacs has a man mode where you can display man pages... (M-x man)07:10
a_monkeyJhair: oh cool07:10
=== hawking [n=Stephen@85.99.194.34] has joined #ubuntu
brennerseife: like i said, try that page, then search the forum07:10
=== aRAchNiON [n=chatzill@109-242.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== candlelight [n=tyubu@218.208.206.91] has joined #ubuntu
brennerjhaa: why not just use a terminal then? :-/07:11
moparfan90i m using mplayer and cant play a wmv movie. how can i fix this?07:11
brennerwhat's the difference?07:11
Seveasmoparfan90, install their codecs07:12
brennermoparfan90: some wm* files aren't supported iirc07:12
moparfan90i did it doesnt work07:12
brennerthe more recent formats especially07:12
=== Tufek [i=Tufek@Montreal-ppp3531894.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
moparfan90is there any way to fix it?07:12
moparfan90o07:12
=== m0rphx [n=morph@p85.212.160.104.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== fivetwentysix [n=fivetwen@n219078247163.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== surfdue [n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue] has joined #ubuntu
fivetwentysixHurray, I got my newsgroups working in Thunderbird!07:13
Jhairbrenner, the emacs man-mode has some nice features like following links to reference to other man pages for example07:13
Xappemoparfan90: http://nanocrew.net/?p=129 <-- something like that perhaps07:13
brennerjhaa: sort of like 'info' then?07:13
TufekI have ubuntu 4.10 version , Is it support sata raid 0 or no?07:14
seifeok07:14
moparfan90i dont have breeze07:14
Xappemoparfan90: well, that could work on hoary?07:15
moparfan90ok07:15
Xappebut i'm far from sure :)07:15
Xappejust remembered that I saw that url in the forums today07:15
moparfan90ok07:16
=== lok [n=lala@dyn-83-155-26-81.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== Tufek [i=Tufek@Montreal-ppp3531894.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
meeepgeez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(07:18
moparfan90it cant find the files07:18
jhaabrenner ?07:18
brennernvm, i guess07:19
=== Concord_Dawn [n=DJChaos@CPE002078c84c59-CM00080d71a84c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthhow do i run a jar?07:19
Concord_DawnCan anyone tell me how to permanently change my hostname?07:19
chumphries/etc/hostname ?07:20
Concord_Dawnthanks.07:20
=== gnomicon [n=gnomi@193.167.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== TestDummy [i=testdumm@user-0c2i8mp.cable.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu
brennerGorth: what does 'file <filename.jar>' say?07:22
TestDummyUgh, this new policy sucks :(07:22
=== houman_zhu [n=dave123@d36-104-145.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Gorthjedit42install.jar: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract07:22
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu
huhmzwhich package does the "misc" fonts come from for X?07:22
=== amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
houman_zhuhi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?07:23
=== jcoxon [n=jcoxon__@81-178-189-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== zeus1_ [n=zeus1_@cpe-24-161-33-119.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
zeus1_does anyone kno how to fix sound07:24
chumphrieshouman_zhu: well the one that matches your kernel?07:24
brennerGorth: never ran into jar files, but maybe try double-clicking in nautilus?07:24
brenner!sound07:24
ubotusomebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/07:24
Gorthindeed :(07:24
chumphriesjar files are java archive files07:24
chumphriesneed java07:24
surfduehey there is a problem with skype07:24
surfduethe package is gone?07:24
brenner*chuckle*07:25
=== surfdue kills brenner
surfduedont chuckle07:25
surfduelol07:25
brennerobviously i've never done java07:25
brennersurfdue: i like chuckling07:25
=== Virtuall is now known as Virtuall[BZA]
houman_zhuchumphries: but then why do i have two folders :|07:25
protok0lhey all07:26
houman_zhuchumphries: one is 686 specific and one doesnt specifiy an architecture in its name, so i am kinda confused07:26
houman_zhuprotok0l: hi there07:26
protok0lim trying to download sun java with apt, but it says that there is a dependency that it cannot resolve, libasound207:26
gnomiconwhen i open a second gnome session for the same user with "X :1 -query <ip>" from another host, i dont have any icons in nautilus (on the desktop and in the file browser)07:26
zeus1_no see...i have working sound but its the USB headset thats not working07:27
zeus1_ubuntu is not detecting my head set...07:27
gnomiconalthough it works when i connect twice on a fedora powered gnome..07:27
TestDummyUh, er, I'm having a problem. I can't get Gaim to work with MSN at all. I've tried installing it from Synaptic, compiling twice from source (using gnutls and nss), tried to autopackage, and I still cannot use MSN. #gaim says it's their problem, but everything is just fine in Windows. I don't know what to do about it.07:27
=== Virtuall[BZA] is now known as Virtuall
houman_zhuTerminX: what d you mean? so liek you cant sign in ? what erro do you get?07:28
=== ompaul is now known as ompaulAFK
protok0lTestDummy: MSN goes down all the time, just wait it out07:28
TestDummyI've tried over three days.07:28
TestDummyTells me it's failing to authenticate.07:28
Xappehave you tested any other IM-client with msn support?07:28
TestDummyAnd like I said, no problems in Windows. I'm aware they do have a little problem every now and then.07:28
brennerprotok0l: following the wiki?07:28
TestDummyXappe: yes I have.07:29
=== Alia26 [n=tia@217-81-134.5001.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu
TestDummyaMSN doesn't work either.07:29
zeus1_ubuntu is not  detecting my USB headset...crimsun helped me detect it but when I rebooted it didnt detect any more07:29
=== No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu
XappeTestDummy: I've used centericq with msn without any problems07:30
=== mumbles [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
gnomiconany idea ?..07:30
Alia26Hi.. Can i get some help? Last night i installed ubuntu from the official cd. I got alot of Trying to fix it, but a reboot is needed. A friend of me told me to run memtest86 to see if there was some problems with my ram. If i'm gonna run memtest86 from the livecd. what do i type on the boot: line?07:30
brennerzeus1_: wait for crimsun i guess...unfortunately not many other sound gurus in here07:31
=== `sg [n=Miranda@27.159.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu
TestDummyEr..07:31
TestDummyWrong button07:31
zeus1_:(07:31
=== TestDummy is too used to tab completion :|
=== jfosa [n=jfosa@fosajc0.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu
TestDummyXappe: Hm..07:31
zeus1_this makes me very.,..upset07:31
=== thrice` [n=andrew@unaffiliated/Thr1cE] has joined #ubuntu
TestDummyI haven't tried that yet. But I'm not very familiar with that program.07:32
jfosaI 'installed' the JRE, but nothing yet07:32
thrice`is preview release considered stable for breezy ?  (well, stable enough)07:32
=== Concord_Dawn [n=DJChaos@CPE002078c84c59-CM00080d71a84c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
houman_zhuhi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?07:32
brennerAlia26: if you installed, grub should give you a memtest boot option07:32
thrice`houman_zhu: do you see a difference in those ?07:32
Alia26brenner: hmm.. so i don't need a livecd?07:32
houman_zhuthrice: yes, one has the 686 the other doesnt07:32
brennerAlia26: well, _i_ have a memtest boot option07:33
thrice`houman_zhu: ok; looks like one's a config for a 686 kernel, the other isn't07:33
XappeTestDummy: that's a cli client though...really nice for running in screen on a remote server :)07:33
Alia26brenner: hoary, right?07:33
brennerAlia26: not sure how you would run memtest through live anyways07:33
brennerAlia26: correct07:33
houman_zhuthrice`: im using 686, why would i have a kernel that i dont need then :|07:33
TestDummyXappe: I don't usually use my programs that way.07:33
Maikeruyay07:33
Maikeruinstallerizing linux-68607:33
Maikeruthen my pcmcia card should work07:34
thrice`houman_zhu: because the default isn't 68607:34
Maikeruthen I can laugh and frollic in the field07:34
brennerhouman_zhu: my guess is 'cos the default is 38607:34
Alia26brenner: hmm this is odd. how do i operate memtest then?07:34
houman_zhuthrice`: the default was 386 which i removed, also those two configs are actually different, i mean some options are checked in the 686 that are not checked in the other one, i mean shouldnt they have the same config ?07:34
XappeTestDummy: well, it would be my choice locally too nowadays. I'm so tired of all fancy smileys and stuff they bloat the im's with07:35
Alia26i started the option, but it doesn't do anything?07:35
thrice`houman_zhu: in some respects, yes; in others, probably not07:35
brennerAlia26: you chose the boot option in grub?07:35
gnomiconwhen i open a second gnome session with "X :1 -query <ip>" from another host, when the same user is already connected locally, i dont have any icons in nautilus (all items use the 'unknown document' icon, on the desktop and file browser)07:35
=== Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.76] has joined #ubuntu
Alia26the memtest86 yes07:36
TestDummyXappe: I'm not a big fan of the bloat either, but I'm not too fond of CLI programs.07:36
houman_zhuthrice`: haha, thats vague, ok, do you knwo how to recompile my kernel if i chaneg the config? since i only have the headers? i men can i just change the config file ? sorry im a noob07:36
chumphrieswhat would make it where i can connect to postfix locally, yet not remotely ?07:36
jfosawhat's the command to check my IP?07:36
chumphriesifconfig07:36
=== TestDummy wishes he knew what the problem was though
TestDummyGaim used to work, but 1.5.0 doesn't for some reason.07:37
TestDummySomething get broken?07:37
seifeyo guys07:37
TestDummyI mean, it starts and runs, but..07:37
seifehow i install blender on ubuntu?07:37
XappeTestDummy: you don't run any firewall?07:37
TestDummyI do.07:37
Alia26seife: apt-get07:37
TestDummyI have Firestarter installed.07:37
TestDummyShould I open up a port or something?07:38
=== aRAchNiON [n=chatzill@109-242.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
XappeTestDummy: have you opened the right ports then?07:38
houman_zhuXappe: i run a firewall but firestarted wont come up unless i click on it :| what kidn of firewall needs ot be started by the user? shouldnt it start automatically?07:38
TestDummyWell, I don't even know what ports to try opening.07:38
=== ttyS0 [i=blitz@chules.net] has joined #ubuntu
XappeTestDummy: hang on, ill ceck my shorewall config07:38
brennerAlia26: what does the config look like in menu.lst?07:38
brenner... for memtest07:39
=== theeil [n=neil@Toronto-HSE-ppp3732141.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
zeus1_does anyone know why my USB headset is not being detected by linux07:39
theeildid anyone get winex cvs working?07:39
Maikeruhrm07:39
a_monkeyfor a powerpc processor, is it faster to use -mcpu and -mtune, or just one?07:39
MaikeruI don't like winex cvs07:39
=== holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
MaikeruI was able to get a .deb of cedega07:40
Maikerufree07:40
a_monkeyand if the latter is true, which one?07:40
theeilMaikeru: where?07:40
Maikeruthough it is cedega 4.0.something07:40
Maikerulet me try and find the link07:40
Maikeruhold up07:40
XappeTestDummy: 5190 maybe07:40
Alia26It have 3 lines, Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 and the same but as recovery mode and then Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+07:40
Maikeruergh07:40
Maikeruwan't me to just dcc?07:40
TestDummy5190?07:40
TestDummyHm.07:40
=== Concord_Dawn [n=DJChaos@CPE002078c84c59-CM00080d71a84c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
TestDummyGoogle says that a port AIM uses O_o07:41
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1517.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu
Xappend ICQ07:42
Xappe*and07:42
brennerAlia26: i have this:  title          Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+ <newline> root           (hd0,2) <newline> kernel         /boot/memtest86+.bin <newline> boot07:42
BelutzMaikeru: how big is the cedega .deb ?07:42
brennerAlia26: you might need to change the (hd0,2) line07:42
a_monkeywhoops, forgot to mention that i'm dealing with gcc optimizations07:42
TestDummyHm I guess I'll give it a try.07:42
Maikerulike 7mb07:42
TestDummyBut I can't right now.07:42
TestDummyThanks though :)07:42
Alia26brenner: how?07:42
=== TestDummy [i=testdumm@user-0c2i8mp.cable.earthlink.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Maikeruhmm07:42
MaikeruI forgot07:42
MaikeruI have it on FTP07:43
=== Prinkster [n=guest@156.26.179.80] has joined #ubuntu
Maikerucause the place I got it from was like 2kb/s07:43
Maikerulol07:43
Maikeruso I d/l'd and uploaded07:43
Alia26it says 76K e820-Std off when i enter memtest86+07:43
PrinksterUmm, hey, is there a place to go for uber-newbie help?07:43
Maikeruone sec let me get you a link to my FTP07:43
brennerAlia26: i thought you get nothing when you ran it?07:44
Alia26i am trying to run it07:44
PrinksterCan I ask a really stupid question?  How do I install new software?  ;_;07:44
brenner!synaptic07:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:44
thrice`Prinkster: sudo aptitude install <software>07:44
brennerPrinkster: that's the easiest way07:44
Alia26brenner: when i installed source i got Trying to fix it, but a reboot is needed07:45
PrinksterUmmm, I'm a complete newb to Linux...is that a command line or something?07:45
brennerPrinkster: yes, i suggest you get used to synaptic and then "graduate" to commandline07:46
thrice`synaptic is all gui07:46
=== HelmutG [i=helmut@subdivi.de] has joined #ubuntu
theeilyou can use apt-get CLI07:46
brennerAlia26: er, and a reboot doesn't fix it?07:46
PrinksterOkay, thank you.07:46
Alia26brenner.. no the programs keep crashing on me.07:46
HelmutGHi. I'm a Debian user, so could someone check whether there is a package called slate in ubuntu?07:46
thrice`apt-cache search slate07:47
brennerAlia26: er, what programs?07:47
HelmutGthrice`: I know there is slate in debian. ;)07:47
Tomcat_HelmutG: packages.ubuntu.com07:47
=== trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ncp [n=ncp@home.prefix.dk] has joined #ubuntu
HelmutGTomcat_: thanks.07:47
thrice`HelmutG: oops...misread the question!  sorry :)07:47
Tomcat_No package "slate", only "slatec" :o07:47
Alia26gaim, galeon, gnome, firefox.... and many others.07:47
=== windex [n=windex@dpc67143139042.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu
Alia26brenner: if i'm gonna reinstall all packages again, how do i do that?07:48
HelmutGOk. Can you then tell me what to do to get slate into ubunto as it already is in debian?07:48
PrinksterOkay, sorry, so I opened up Synaptic Packet Manager, now let's say I want to download and install Azereus, is there a tutorial somewhere I would be able to see how to do that?07:48
=== syn-ack [i=Matt@ip68-228-38-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
thrice`man, no gaim 1.5.0 in backports ?07:49
=== protok0l [n=protokol@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Tomcat_HelmutG: You can *try* to install the debian package with dpkg -i slate*.deb after downloading it...07:49
Tomcat_HelmutG: But it might not work.07:49
HappyFool!tell Prinkster about synaptic07:49
brennerAlia26: if lots of programs are crashing on you... i don't see how reinstalling would fix things..like your friend said, try and do a memtest07:49
zeus1_anyone kno how to detect USB headset07:49
brenner*reinstalling them07:49
Seveasthrice`, not yet :)07:49
PrinksterThaniks a ton.07:49
brennernot the whole system :)07:49
thrice`Seveas: i thought it was quicker than that07:50
Alia26brenner: I am trying to do so, but you seem to ignore me. I need help on how to do so.07:50
Tomcat_HelmutG: Otherwise, you can ask the Ubuntu Universe people to include it in the next release.07:50
HelmutGTomcat_: I think you misunderstood me. It's the other way round. I don't have any ubuntu installation. I'm the debian maintainer of that package and I'm asking how to get this package in the official ubuntu distribution.07:50
Tomcat_HelmutG: Oh alright... then the last thing I said. :)07:50
Tomcat_HelmutG: #ubuntu-motu is the channel I think.07:50
brennerAlia26: not ignoring....just a little confused...sorry.   ok, so running memtest gives you a blank screen?07:50
Seveasthrice`, it's not easy to backport (probably won't be there), because gaim in breezy includes launchpad integration07:51
HelmutGTomcat_: Thank you very much. :)07:51
thrice`Seveas: launchpad ?07:51
=== katzor [n=udssr@p54BA0C4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== windex [n=windex@dpc67143139042.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== HelmutG [i=helmut@subdivi.de] has left #ubuntu []
BelutzMaikeru: would you mind send it to me?07:52
Alia26No it says, Athlon XP (0.13) 1396 Mhz, L1 cache: 128K 8566MB/s, L2 Cache: 256K 2727MB/s, memory: 1024M 592MB/s, Chipset: SiS 74507:52
Maikerubelutz07:52
Maikerupm me so I remember your nick07:52
MaikeruAnd I will as soon as i finish workin on the laptop07:52
Maikeruk?07:52
MaikeruI gotta get my laptop up on the net07:52
Alia26and then in the middle of the screen it says: 76K e820-Std Off07:52
BelutzMaikeru: ok07:52
Maikeruthen I can send it to you and one other07:52
zeus1_anyone kno how to detect USB headset07:52
windexyay. fixed auto ident07:52
MaikeruNow, let's hope seveas comes back on07:53
=== Mustafu [n=aeris@24-180-195-240.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
fivetwentysixWhats the offical site for cedega?07:53
fivetwentysixi can't find it07:53
katzor#ubuntu-laptop07:53
katzorlol07:53
=== Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-154-135-238.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== athlon [n=athlon@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #ubuntu
Belutzfivetwentysix: www.transgaming.com07:54
Maikeruhmm07:54
Maikeruxchat crashed07:54
fivetwentysixthanks07:54
fivetwentysixBelutz07:54
=== PAK_013 [n=trt-mrt@195.252.72.13] has joined #ubuntu
=== chumphries [n=chris@fluffy.unixfu.net] has joined #ubuntu
PAK_013how can i install fluxbox on ubuntu 5.04 for PPC ????07:54
Alia26brenner?07:55
PAK_013apt-get dont find packages07:55
chumphriesproblem with ubuntu and postfix not working for remote connections is that ubuntu main.cf defaults inet_interfaces = loopback-only07:55
zeus1_anyone kno how to detect USB headset07:55
Xorlevzeus1_: cat /proc/scsi/scsi gives me my USB devices.07:55
chumphriesso i just had to modify that to have it work of course :)07:55
zeus1_ok h/o07:55
PrinksterOkay, here's another newb question, is there a way to play MP3s?07:55
HappyFoolPAK_013: have you added the relevant repositories ? (universe, in this case)07:55
XorlevPrinkster: http://www.ubuntuguide.org07:55
XorlevYes there is.07:55
HappyFoolPrinkster: yip; but you need to install specific packages07:55
PrinksterOkay, thanks.07:55
XorlevJust some libraries to install.07:55
HappyFool!tell Prinkster about restricted07:55
thrice`is gtk 2.8.X going to drive breezy ?07:56
HappyFoolubuntuguide.org is generally frowned upon here07:56
zeus1_Xorlev I got "Attached devices:                                 "       << just all blank07:56
brennerAlia26: googling...i'm not sure if that's an error, or if so...what it means07:56
=== Dr_Willis [i=willis@12-222-84-112.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevHmm...07:56
Dr_WillisMoo...07:56
Xorlev2u07:56
Xorlev207:56
jfosathe thing I don't like about synaptic is I don't know where things are installed07:56
zeus1_hmm I got "bash: 2u: command not found"07:57
PAK_013HappyFool, thanks... i just add it and i will see what hapens...07:57
HappyFooljfosa: iirc you can right click on the package and find a file list07:57
Xorlevzeus1_: 2u2 was in response to Dr_Willis :P07:57
=== Mustafu [n=aeris@24-180-195-240.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
Dr_Willis:)07:57
Dr_Willisapt-get install 2u07:57
jfosaHappyFool: thanks07:57
Xorlevjfosa: whereis, dpkg -S package07:58
=== Orbi- [n=r00t@baana11-237.verkkotieto.fi] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevAnd apt-get -v moo =)07:58
XorlevErr07:58
Xorlevaptitude07:58
huhmzI just upgraded to breezy but the fonts got screwed up, what could be the problem?07:58
XorlevThen add v's to it.07:58
zeus1_xorlev how do i fix....ur first command said there were no attached devices07:59
=== kung [n=Kundalf@p85.212.4.86.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevHmm, lemmie Google for a minute.07:59
zeus1_k07:59
kunghi there07:59
brenneranyone familiar with memtest86?  could you help out Alia26?07:59
=== fevel [n=fevel@200165130155.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
Xorlevzeus1_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892608:00
=== h0sl3r [n=hosler@207.189.1.174] has joined #ubuntu
kungcan anyone tell me, in which file the modules are placed, that ubuntu loads at boot time?08:00
XorlevMight help.08:00
Xorlevkung: Kernel modules?08:00
h0sl3rWhen I watch flash cartoons the sound lags behind a bit. How can i fix this?08:00
HappyFoolkung: you maybe want /etc/modules ?08:01
kungyea, I'm trying to remove the module for my onboard sound card08:01
kungno, /etc/modules is for additional modules it seems08:01
=== protok0l [n=protokol@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
h0sl3rkung: just remove it in the bios.08:01
protok0lis there a proper ubuntu way to set the $PATH08:01
zeus1_xorlev....I have read that thread over 12 times08:01
HappyFoolkung: yeah; there is a blacklist somewhere08:01
HappyFoolkung: in /etc/hotplug08:01
zeus1_xorlev...I did the commands he did...but when he did it it detected his headset when i do the command it doesnt detect the headset08:02
kungI can't disable it in the bios..:/08:02
zeus1_and its not in device manager either08:02
zeus1_but the speakers work fine...08:02
kungthx, I'll try that hotplug thing now08:02
=== s_wart [i=swart@4096.garda.sk] has left #ubuntu []
h0sl3rkung: just remove it in the bios.08:02
XorlevHmm08:02
h0sl3roops08:02
=== pete-h [n=pete@81-178-251-3.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
h0sl3rWhen I watch flash cartoons the sound lags behind a bit. How can i fix this?08:02
=== contrasutra [n=ben@pcp03313000pcs.wchryh01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457158b1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevDo you have working USB ports? USB support compiled into kernel?08:02
kungoh, k, now i c...08:03
zeus1_umm...08:03
kungubuntu is different from my previous distros..;)08:03
zeus1_xorlev...the headset works perfect in windows XP08:03
fevelhi...can anyone help me to disable my onboard sound card and only use my pci one08:03
=== elvirolo [n=isa@lns-bzn-2-gre-82-250-47-180.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
kungyou have to tell it what  not to load, not what to load..:)08:03
elvirolohi amll08:03
Xorlevzeus1_: XP is evil, and the USB ports work, but are they working in Linux?08:04
elviroloi recebtly upgraded to breezy $,08:04
HappyFoolfevel: is it possible to disable in your bios setup?08:04
zeus1_Xorlev...lol..umm...idk how do i tell if there working in Linux08:04
kungfevel try to enter the module in the /etc/hotplug/blacklist file..;)08:04
elviroloand X is broken, it says it can't find /dev/input/mice (which doesn't exist, indeed)08:04
Maikeruargh08:04
Maikeruseveas left when I needed his help08:04
Maikeru:<08:04
kungthats pretty much, what I just asked and what i'm trying now..;)08:04
=== youngcoder [n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Jack-Ho [n=dsad@85-65-145-130.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bun2 [n=bun2@P-1.43.EUnet.yu] has joined #ubuntu
Jack-Hocan any one help me?08:05
elviroloideas anyone,08:05
bun2Hi!08:05
Xorlevzeus1_: Not quite sure...a bit out of my expertise. My USB ports just worked.08:05
Jack-Hohow can i register a protocol under ubuntu? so when i click on a "irc://irc.server.com/chan" link in firefox it'll open xchat and connect to that server automaticly?08:05
HappyFoolelvirolo: i'd go read the ubunut-devel mailing lists08:05
=== JosephB [n=ck@S0106000d88b53081.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
bun2how can i change my resolution from console?08:05
elviroloHappyFool, well i did have a look there ...08:06
zeus1_xorlev...08:06
bun2someone?08:06
=== stoeptegel [n=stoepteg@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
zeus1_xorlev..my keyboard is usb and it works fine in linux08:06
HappyFoolelvirolo: ppl here were talking about modprobing mouse drivers or something last night (here on #ubuntu), but i don't remember the details08:06
JosephBHow do I enable the ftpd, and is there a good frontend for configing it?08:06
zeus1_So I KNOW theres not a problem with the usb ports08:06
elviroloHappyFool, never mind, thx anyway :)08:06
Jack-Hoany one?08:06
fevelHappyFool, I never tried08:06
HappyFoolJack-Ho: that's probably a firefox thing08:06
brennerbun2: if you're running console, why would you need to change res? :-/08:06
=== slibs [n=slibs@a84-230-92-235.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
fevelHappyFool, ill see if I can08:07
PrinksterAwesome, I got the MP3 player to work.  Thanks guys!08:07
Jack-Hoand, how can i fix that?08:07
bun2brenner: cause I can't change it08:07
HappyFoolfevel: that would be the easiest solution; otherwise it may be possible to stop the driver from being loaded08:07
slibshi, how can i watch quicktime files?08:07
dalamari wish breezy would come out sooner, there's alot of programs now that new versions are requiring a newer version of libc and I'm not going to run breezy instable heh08:07
=== joe_alf [i=joe_alf@pcd303222.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== spartas [n=tim@adsl-065-082-233-182.sip.btr.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
brennerbun2: in your desktop environ you mean?08:07
fevelHappyFool, I can choose the alsa driver for xmms and use my pci, but not for gaming08:07
bun2brenner: yeah. I can't 'drop' dropdown menu08:08
brennerubotu: tell slibs about restricted08:08
=== pawelek [n=pawelek@abr132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
Jack-Hoany one? :\08:08
slibsbrenner, won't help08:08
brennerubotu: tell bun2 about fixres08:08
brennerslibs: you installed w32codecs?08:08
pawelekfrom where (repository) i can download jdk08:08
slibsbrenner, yes there's only problem with sound08:08
pawelekand j2re?08:08
brennerslibs: install totem-xine08:08
brenner!java08:08
=== zetor [n=zetor@c-cd62e255.52-2-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #Ubuntu
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:08
slibsi have that too08:08
brennerpawelek: ^^08:09
brennerslibs: ok, what sound probs?08:09
zetorhi all!08:09
pawelekbranner?08:09
HappyFoolJack-Ho: sorry, i can't see anything obvious08:09
brennerpawelek: see ubotu's link08:09
pete-hhi, is split-screen (laptop) support known to be broken in Hoary?08:09
zeus1_guys what the heezee my beezee in the sheezie ....... its not working rite08:09
Jack-Ho:)08:09
Jack-Ho:(08:09
Jack-Hoand i have aneder prablome08:09
pawelekbrenner: but I don't know any repositorium where I can find it08:09
pawelekrepository*08:09
Jack-Hoiv got an usb keybord08:09
brennerpawelek: see ubotu's link08:10
Jack-Hoand in the grub menu08:10
Jack-Hoi can`t choose, the keybord dosnt work08:10
=== fraggsta [n=jrw6@82-32-117-167.cable.ubr03.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
pawelekbrenner: but where?08:10
slibsbrenner, aha!, totem did work, the sound was just disabled by default08:10
slibsbut i'd like to get the sound work in the vlc08:11
brennerpawelek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:11
=== thedevilsjester [n=akuma@12-207-194-51.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
gnomiconi cant open multiple gnome sessions with the same user without losing the icons in nautilus desktop and file browser, anyone knows how to make it work normally, eg like in fedora core 3 ?..08:11
dalamarpawelek, I'd use the info at the bottom of the wiki about installing it from Sun, I believe the java package has been taken out of the repos08:11
zeus1_MY USB HEADSET ISNT being deteCTED......how do u fix08:11
HappyFoolJack-Ho: hmm. look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-276.html  -- i'd look for a bios setting to make your usb keyboard look like a normal one08:11
pawelekyhm08:11
paweleki see08:11
pawelekthx08:11
zeus1_but my usb keyboard works fine08:12
thedevilsjesterOK I am trying to compile my OpenGL app on a new installation of ubuntu, but I get the following error08:12
=== twoSharp [n=twoSharp@ti400720a081-2818.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: present but cannot be compiled08:12
zeus1_and the headset dose not08:12
thedevilsjesterhas anyone encountered this and know how to fix it?08:12
=== perseo_pi [n=usuario1@186.Red-83-41-54.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Maikeruhey08:12
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: well, one doesn't usually compile .h files08:12
Jack-Hoin the windows "grub" the keybord work fine :\08:12
thedevilsjesterthats from configure08:12
thedevilsjesterconfigure fails there08:13
joe_alfi have a problem on my broadband connection i've run pppoeconf just fine and ifconfig tell's that i am connected but i can't browse the internet and even ping doesn't seems to work.08:13
thedevilsjesterchecking X11/extensions/XShm.h usability... no08:13
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: hmm. have you installed the x development libraries?08:13
=== twoSharp [n=twoSharp@ti400720a081-2818.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== mumbles [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
stoeptegelhow do i get writepermission on my /media/ext3.stuff partition?08:13
thedevilsjesterchecking X11/extensions/XShm.h usability... no08:14
thedevilsjesterchecking X11/extensions/XShm.h presence... yes08:14
thedevilsjesterits there08:14
MaikeruI am using 2.6.10-5-686, Ubuntu Hoary, and ndiswrapper. I have a DWL-650 Revision P PCMCIA (Cardbus) card.08:14
thedevilsjesterjust not useable, I have installed every dev package I can think of08:14
MaikeruI typed ndiswrapper -i wlan/NETPRISM.inf08:14
MaikeruI then type modprobe ndiswrapper and to verify dmesg |grep ndis08:14
PAK_013i have one more question... is opera avaible for PPC and where I can download it ?08:14
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: ok, and what does 'ls -l /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h' say?08:14
Maikerudmesg outputs: ndiswrapper version 1.0rc2 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=no)08:14
perseo_piHi, I have installed, I think it, xine-lib and xine-ui with "sudo aptitude install gxin". And now, How can I execute the program?08:14
XorlevIs it just my internet, or is CPAN not resolving?08:14
HappyFoolPAK_013: look on opera's site08:15
bun2okk ... i still can't drop down "resolution" menu08:15
bun2:(08:15
Maikerundiswrapper (load_devices:479): Each driver can only support a single busstype08:15
slibsstoeptegel, with chmod08:15
Maikerundiswrapper: driver netprism (D-Link,07/17/2003,3.0.8) added08:15
Maikeruthat's it08:15
thedevilsjester ls -l /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h08:15
thedevilsjester-rw-r--r--  1 root root 4285 2005-04-05 11:08 /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h08:15
=== Jack-Ho [n=dsad@85-65-145-130.barak-online.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
thedevilsjesterits not a symlink08:15
Maikeruthen I type iwconfig and it shows lo and sit0 with no devices found08:15
MaikeruI tried iwconfig wlan0 and it couldn't find it08:15
=== meeep [n=pontus@h27n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
MaikeruI tried iwconfig wlan0 essid <MyAPName> and it didn't work08:16
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: what app is it? maybe you can do a apt-get build-dep08:16
MaikeruI also tried ifconfig wlan008:16
meeephow do i mount a SATA hd? it cant find sda5 when ubuntu boots, but i can mount it later, in terminal, wtf to08:16
thedevilsjesterits my app08:16
thedevilsjesterso no, I cant :P08:16
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: ah, right08:16
MaikeruNow, I don't think it understands that my PCMCIA is inserted or something08:16
brennerPAK_013: their official site might be a better place to query08:16
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: but then you have control of the ./configure08:16
MaikeruThe light for activity on the card is green, but all that tells me is that it's getting power08:16
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: so what are you testing for?08:16
MaikeruOther than that I don't know, my only guess is that it has no clue I have a PCMCIA card there08:16
=== masoft [n=moeen@217.164.250.159] has joined #ubuntu
MaikeruSo, any ideas? :)08:16
masoftI our office, we have just a Microsoft ISA in server as Proxy (not socks) , and we use it for websites. now I wanna know is it possible to have VNC access with a http proxy ?08:16
thedevilsjesterwell this is a 3rd party lib to my app,08:17
thedevilsjesterand I cant get precompiled versions08:17
=== ompaul [n=tpjohn@159-134-129-114.as1.pal.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu
huhmzAfter upgrading to breezy my fonts in firefox and thunderbird have become "invisible", others have the same problem (i googled) but couldn't find any answers, alsa ubuntuforums.org seems down. Anyone know what the problem could be?08:17
thedevilsjesterI need specific config options08:17
=== youngcoder [n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterfox 1.5.8 gui lib08:17
=== Maikeru fiddles around with the laptop while waiting
kvidellhuhmz: Well of course you couldn't find any answers. The fonts are invisible ^.^! I am helping.08:17
thedevilsjesterworks perfectly in my gentoo box, but wont even configure on this one08:17
emileis the ubuntu kismet wiki still valid for ubuntu install with all updates applied?08:17
ompaul!audigy08:17
ubotuit has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.08:17
thedevilsjesternot many useable results via google either08:18
ompaulany ideas on what to do with this:: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default08:18
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: i'd try the fox dev lists08:18
thedevilsjesterits not a fox issue08:18
fraggstaHere's a puzzling question;  I have a friend who just installed Ubuntu.  Both of our machines have SB Live! cards.  They come up EXACTLY the same in lspci.  When he plays a song in AmaroK, the sound becomes "muffled" and "muted" (I'm going on his description hear, I can't hear his speakers over the internet)08:18
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: that configure message is a bit obscure08:18
fraggstaSo why is his machine doing that?08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: present but cannot be compiled08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: see the Autoconf documentation08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result08:19
thedevilsjesterconfigure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: in the future, the compiler will take precedence08:19
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: or look in the configure.in or configure file to see how it's doing the test08:19
=== indigirl1 [i=Daniel@cpe-066-056-115-111.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: no, don't paste here08:19
Belutz!paste08:19
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:19
dalamaruse pastebin!08:19
huhmz   /topiic08:19
zeus1_umm08:19
thedevilsjesterits not large amounts of text08:19
thedevilsjesterjust 6 lines08:19
zeus1_how do u detect USB headset08:19
dalamarthats alot08:19
tommi^Hi. How come I can read other user's directories?08:19
meeephow do i mount a SATA hd? it cant find sda5 when ubuntu boots, but i can mount it later, in terminal, wtf to08:20
Maikerugrm08:20
zeus1_I cant detect usb headset..but usb keyboard works fine08:20
ompaulthedevilsjester, pastebin is good for you, don't argue or one of the ops will kick you :-) I'm not an op just letting you konw08:20
pawelekand one more qustion where I can find in repos jd?08:20
pawelekjdk08:20
PAK_013i can't leave this chanel withouth saying that UBUNTU IS GREAT! i love it! :)08:20
PAK_013bye 2 all! cya soon...08:20
zeus1_I cant detect usb headset..but usb keyboard works fine anyone help08:20
ompaulPAK_013, you could but hey it is great to read that kind of thing now and again - put it in your sign off message :)08:20
=== PAK_013 [n=trt-mrt@195.252.72.13] has left #ubuntu ["Shit]
=== Maikeru cries
HappyFool!java08:21
=== protok0l [n=protokol@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
brennerzeus1_: repeating yourself every 10 seconds isn't helping08:21
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:21
dalamarpawelek, I just searched and the jre package is in the repos, you must not have one working .. I would follow the wiki exactly, including setting up the repos08:21
thedevilsjesterSo no one encounter this?  What package installs the XShm.h file? maybe I can redownload it?08:21
candlelightpawelek, search for "java" at ubuntu wiki.08:21
brennerthedevilsjester: ubuntu.packages.com08:21
pawelekjre im downloading08:21
zeus1_of course its not...im not geting any help on the forums and ppl just give up on me in here08:21
=== Xanthus7 [n=theshado@az-yuma-cuda1q-32.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
brennerThe_Vox: then use the file search feature08:21
Maikeruzeus: the point is saying:08:21
joe_alfneed help please. regarding broadband internet conection.08:21
Maikeru<my problem>08:21
Maikeru(10 seconds later) <my problem>08:21
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: hmm. "dpkg: /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h not found."  -- odd08:21
=== abydos [n=asittler@cus63-79-27-75.sentco.net] has joined #ubuntu
Maikeruover and over is just gonna piss everyone off and then you will definately be ignored and not receive an answer :)08:22
tommi^really, is it really so that I can read other user's directories in ubuntu by default or have I done something stupid? Isn't that like very insecure?08:22
zeus1_cuz no one helps me out...and ive been at this for weeks08:22
thedevilsjesterbrenner,  that site doesnt exist..08:22
MaikeruWell I've been at this for months08:22
brennersorry....packages.ubuntu.com08:22
MaikeruSo there08:22
zeus1_and i bumped my forum post into next tuesday with 19 bumps and still no help08:22
dalamartommi^, your main user is a superuser, it should be able to read anything and write any with a sudo command08:22
ompaulzeus1_, maybe get a new headset - or try breezy - or pay someone who can code to fix it08:23
ompaulzeus1_, and you iknow that breezy is unstable :)08:23
MaikeruAnyone know where I can possibly contact Seveas?08:23
Xanthus7Hey I blew out grub and I need to reinstall it all I can get into is my windows xp08:23
HappyFool!recover08:23
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:23
ompaulMaikeru, what do you want him for?08:23
zeus1_new headset? this is state of the art thats not gonna happen....try breezy..its unstable and why would i pay someone to fix it for me08:23
Maikeruompaul, he knew what he was talkin about when it came to my wireless card08:23
Maikeruand was helping me08:24
Maikeruand I need his help08:24
Maikeruit refuses to work08:24
HappyFoolzeus1_: you would pay someone because it is worth something to you ;)08:24
MaikeruI did as he said and it still hates me08:24
Maikeruheh08:24
tommi^dalamar, nou.. If I su [otheruser]  I can still read other users' directories and files. Home directories seem to be 75508:24
zeus1_thats going a bit overboard happyfool, to have to pay someone cause im not getting help when the answer is out there ive been searching hard for it08:24
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, what command did you type to get the no found result?08:24
ompaulMaikeru, well he is not logged in atm when he is, he is obvious :)08:24
brennerzeus1_: have you tried repeating crimsun's fix?08:24
tommi^dalamar, all directories under /home are drwxr-xr-x08:24
zeus1_IDR his fix...08:24
Xanthus7Maikeru don't tell me it is Qwest wireless you are using08:24
zeus1_it happened a whiel back08:25
MaikeruD-Link DWL-65008:25
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: dpkg -S /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h08:25
zeus1_so i cant remeber the commands08:25
brennerIDR?08:25
MaikeruRevision P08:25
MaikeruBloody hell08:25
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: err, that may be wrong08:25
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: the filename, i mean08:25
Maikeruzeus: I worked on my belkin f5d6050 for months08:25
Maikeruand couldn't find shit08:25
zeus1_whats that08:25
stoeptegelslibs: chmodding a partition? :s08:25
MaikeruI went back to google months later, tried a search (different from what I had done)08:25
Maikeruand BAM! It worked08:25
MaikeruGive it some time and don't complain over a couple weeks08:25
Xanthus7Cool I switching to qwest dsl in a couple months and they are givinb a wireless modem/router08:25
=== robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
MaikeruI had to give up on FreeBSD and Linux because of that08:25
thedevilsjesternope its the right name, and even though the file is there it still says not found..08:25
zeus1_but the sound is working in the speakers...and my usb keyboard is working08:26
MaikeruBTW: It's a wireless adapter08:26
ompaulzeus1_, this is not harsh this is the real world, your other option is to contact the makers of the hardware and say where is my Linux driver you ... nice people :)08:26
zeus1_ya rite...like there just gonna make a linux driver because of one angry customer...lol08:26
MaikeruMaybe you're not the only one?08:26
MaikeruYou ever thought of that?08:26
Dr_Willis"I am looking to buy new hardware from your company, what devices do you have that support linux"08:26
Dr_Willis:P08:26
MaikeruMaybe there's a lot of other people08:26
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
zeus1_but crimsun helped me get it working....and then when i rebooted it stopepd working agaijn08:27
MaikeruMaybe they're working on one08:27
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: yeah, i'm not sure what that means. very odd, because i certainly didn't put those files there myself08:27
MaikeruYou never know08:27
Dr_WillisThen they have to admit No, and the fact they are losing a sale is their fault.08:27
Dr_Willis:P08:27
zeus1_the thing is it slipped out of my grasp08:27
zeus1_when i had the problem fixed08:27
zeus1_:(08:27
Xanthus7So can some help me here please I blew out grub and need to reinstall it so I can get back into ubuntu08:27
ompaulzeus1_, I have given you a few solutions your call  the great thing about non closed hardware and software is that you dont get those kind of problems :)08:27
thedevilsjesterYeah I think it is the root cause of the configure error...something is off08:27
Maikeru!recover08:27
ubotuhmm... recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:27
HappyFool!tell Xanthus7 about recover08:27
Maikeruergh08:27
huhmzAnyone running breezy that can tell me all their FontPath's from xorg.conf?08:27
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, this is a fresh ubuntu install so I KNOW I didnt put those there08:27
thedevilsjesterI even just re apt'ed the package that contains the file08:28
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: i'm trying packages.ubuntu.com08:28
Dr_Willishuhmz,  i was thinkign it defaulted to like "localhost:7100" or somthing in this day and age of font-servers.08:28
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: it's libxext-dev08:28
thedevilsjesteryeah I re installed that08:28
=== zeus1_ [n=zeus1_@cpe-24-161-33-119.hvc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== zeus1_ [n=zeus1_@cpe-24-161-33-119.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, no difference08:28
huhmzdr_willis: but there are static ones as well08:28
huhmzi really need the paths08:28
=== aeruder_ [i=muncher@ip68-102-201-46.ks.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
huhmzand they aren't the same as for hoary08:29
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: ah, try this: dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h08:29
meeep!ubuntu08:29
ubotuubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards08:29
Dr_Willishuhmz,  Hmm.. odd..  wonder why they would move them.08:29
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: that doesn't help you though, sorry08:29
=== bun2 [n=bun2@P-1.101.EUnet.yu] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, I get the same results as you08:29
bun2i can't change my resolution08:29
bun2i'm sorry for writting this again08:30
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, 'not found' even though I can open it in nano just fine08:30
bun2but maybe someone new is here08:30
bun2so,08:30
huhmzCould someone running breezy please pm me all the FontPath lines from xorg.conf please?08:30
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: no, it's a symlink -- the X11 directory is probably a link08:30
=== itrebal [n=itrebal@adsl-210-59-101.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: that's kind of irrelevant to your problem though08:30
bun2when i go to preferences> resolution08:30
stoeptegelslibs: the file /media/ext3.stuff already is 75508:30
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: is it possible that this lib needs a newer X ?08:31
fivetwentysixDoes Ubuntu-64 support 32 bit applications?08:31
bun2i can see only 640x48008:31
bun2i can't change it08:31
bun2someone knows why?08:31
thedevilsjesterI sincerly doubt it, I have compiled this for a couple years on all sorts of versions08:31
mjrfivetwentysix, not very transparently08:31
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: same version of fox?08:31
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: how big is the fox download?08:32
thedevilsjesterAFAIK they didnt change the opengl in the latest versions08:32
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, a couple megs08:32
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: url?08:32
meeephow do i make my SATA hd mount in startup? it wont do, it says sda5 cant be found? :/08:32
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, http://www.fox-toolkit.org/ftp/fox-1.5.8.tar.gz08:32
=== itrebal [n=itrebal@adsl-210-59-101.mco.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== lok [n=lala@dyn-83-155-26-81.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjestermy config line is08:33
thedevilsjester./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-jpeg --disable-png --disable-tiff --disable-bz2lib  --disable-cups --without-xrandr --enable-release --enable-shared=no --enable-static=yes --with-opengl --without-xcursor08:33
candlelightbun2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%2908:33
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: hm. i'm on dial-up -- you mind waiting about 20 minutes?08:33
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, I have plenty of time, yes, I appreciate the help08:33
fivetwentysixmjr, I'm trying to install Cedega, could you point me in the direction to install this on 64bit Ubuntu?08:33
=== ompaul kills all closed systems within 500km
HappyFooli should have the deps; i compiled an opengl lib not too long ago08:33
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, install Point2Play small deb08:34
=== protok0l [n=sfkdlgnk@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, then use Point2PLay and your login to install cedega08:34
=== ompaul mutters something about closed source hardware being the bane of his life
fivetwentysixYes I tried that08:34
=== rhican [n=derk@dD5779248.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, you have to force architexture though08:34
fivetwentysixGave me something like this :  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)08:34
fivetwentysixHow can I do that?08:34
thedevilsjesteryeah simply --force-architecture (spelling?)08:35
protok0li cannot add a a directory to my $PATH, i tried editing /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile but it never applied, even after logout/login and reboot08:35
Dr_Williscedega on 64bit - needs some work - last i looked into it.08:35
fivetwentysixOk thanks let me try that08:35
thedevilsjesteras long as its the small package, it will work08:35
HappyFoolprotok0l: do you need this for a command-line or gui app?08:35
thedevilsjesterotherwise you could break your system because the big one installs 32bit deps08:35
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix,  sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture /home/akuma/Desktop/point2play-small_2.0.3_i386.deb08:36
HappyFoolprotok0l: try setting the path in ~/.gnomerc -- that should work for both, assuming you're using gnome08:36
thedevilsjesterof course use your paths :p08:36
HappyFoolprotok0l: you (obviously?) need to export it08:36
=== Drajka [n=woot@cpe-24-26-146-15.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== A-Z-I-Z [n=aziz@62.215.128.10] has joined #ubuntu
zeus1_any1 no how to detect USB headset08:37
protok0lHappyFool: it is in /etc/profile just fine, but it doesnt export08:37
fivetwentysixOK08:37
DrajkaI'm still having trouble with DVD functionability....08:37
fivetwentysixThis is what happens once I do that08:37
Drajka] I got mpeg and sound to work08:37
protok0lif ii run "source /etc/profile" it works08:37
fivetwentysixIt ends here : Unpacking replacement point2play-small ...08:37
fivetwentysixSetting up point2play-small (2.0.3) ...08:37
=== BlueEagle [n=blueeagl@ti541210a080-8421.bb.online.no] has joined #Ubuntu
Drajkabut still no dvd... i'm pretty sure i got libdvdcss installed properly, but I don't know.08:37
fivetwentysixThen nothing happens08:37
BelutzDrajka: libdvdcss2 ?08:38
thedevilsjestertype Point2Play (case sensitive)08:38
Drajkao.O I don't have that08:38
BelutzDrajka: you must installed that08:38
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, I just did that a couple hours ago on this very system, so I know it works :P08:38
Drajkai must have? or I must08:38
BelutzDrajka: you must08:39
Drajkaok08:39
fivetwentysixIt does work, it unpacks the stuff, but when it says setting up, all of a sudden nothing happens08:39
=== kefkey [n=selwyn@204-212-120-129.setardsl.aw] has joined #ubuntu
BelutzDrajka: you must have it installed, sorry for my bad english :D08:39
Drajka:)08:39
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, did you try and run point2play now?08:39
=== lJlolel [n=joe@adsl-067-034-104-254.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
DrajkaI installed libdvdcss.. but I have to install libdvdcss2 as well?08:39
lJlolelhow do i draw a straight line in the gimp?08:39
fivetwentysixHow can I do that?08:39
thedevilsjesterjust type Point2Play in your console08:39
HappyFoolprotok0l: /etc/profile is not sourced in the gdm login process08:40
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix,  its case sensitive08:40
fivetwentysix:-)08:40
HappyFoolprotok0l: nor for non-login bash shells (non-login is the standard for gnome-terminal)08:40
fivetwentysixThank you so much!08:40
BelutzDrajka: you can uninstall the libdvdcss08:40
=== Cyber-shot [n=Cyber@maze.mephi.ru] has joined #ubuntu
=== fivetwentysix does the happy dance
thedevilsjesterfivetwentysix, no problem08:40
Drajkato be honest, I don't know how. :] 08:40
=== kandoora [n=kandoora@ldd037.emirates.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolprotok0l: try ~/.gnomerc; add export PATH=/my/own/path:$PATH and logout and login and try it08:40
=== bun2 [n=bun2@P-1.64.eunet.yu] has joined #ubuntu
elvirolocould anyone tell me what the mouse device file is in breezy ?08:41
BelutzDrajka: you have to enable the universe/multiverse repo, do you know how to do that?08:41
=== MAPD [n=bz@a213-22-135-31.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu
MAPDhey08:41
DrajkaI did, i have 15229 packs in synap08:41
=== pfp [n=pfp@YYYKMMMDCCCXCIX.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.13] has joined #ubuntu
MAPDi got dual boot windows and ubuntu08:41
zeus1_any1 no how to detect USB headset cause i cant here any sound08:41
Drajkahowever --08:41
MAPDhow do i remove grub to remove linux after?08:41
thedevilsjesterHappyFool, I have to be afk for a few mins, PM me when you get that downloaded will you?08:41
Drajkamapd08:41
MAPDpls08:41
DrajkaI can actually help you with this08:41
Drajkalol08:41
HappyFoolthedevilsjester: will do08:41
lJloleldoes anybody know how to draw a straight line in the gimp (its flippin impossible)08:42
DrajkaEven though I'm a linux nub..08:42
DrajkaI'm a windows master.08:42
Drajka:s08:42
MAPDfdisk /mbr08:42
elvirolo                           lJlolel08:42
seifeI'm a windows master too. ;o08:42
MAPDinst work08:42
Belutz!tell Drajka about sources08:42
MAPDing08:42
elvirolowhoopis08:42
MAPD:P08:42
redeemanhello08:42
redeemanto enable nvidia acceleration in ubuntu, one needs to run a program called something like nvidia-opengl-config enable, what about ati?08:42
kandoorawhen i installed the hsfmodem driver, booting takes longer, it gets stuck @ configuring network interface, any idea why?08:42
HappyFoollJlolel: maybe use inkscape instead? or dia? I think gimp also has some rudimentary line drawing thing08:43
elvirololJlolel, yes08:43
=== fevel [n=fevel@200165130155.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
elvirololJlolel, you hold shift while using the "pen" tool08:43
lJlolelelvirolo, thanks, how do you do a rectangle?08:43
HappyFooloh, ok. i'm not a gimp user ;)08:43
fevelDid any gamer install "last man standing" on their ubuntu08:44
thedevilsjesterlJlolel, use KPaint its much easier08:44
fevelI got ET working08:44
thedevilsjesterlJlolel, its like MSPaint with transparencies08:44
elvirololJlolel, i'm afraid you need to activate the rectangular selection, fill in a coulour, reduce the selection by a few pixels, and fill in white08:44
bun2still nobody can't tell me how to change my low resolution to high ?08:45
lJlolelelvirolo, lol cool08:45
elvirololol08:45
kvidelllJlolel: It's the same as Photoshop nearly.08:45
kvidell(Gimp is)08:45
kvidellthe shift trick is how you do it in photoshop as well, etc.08:45
MAPDgimp rule08:45
MAPDs08:45
MAPD.P08:45
elvirolobun2, you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:45
aRAchNiONlJlolel: you can also make a rectangular selection08:45
aRAchNiONconvert it to a path08:45
aRAchNiONand draw a line over that path08:45
kvidellI personally hate gimp, but if I don't have an OSX box available, I use it.08:45
elviroloso does anyoneuse breezy here ?08:45
kvidellor, make a rectangular selection and use the "Stroke" tool08:46
MAPDkvidell which program you run08:46
MAPDon your OSX box?08:46
fivetwentysixAnyone know how to get my headset working which is connected through my usb soundcard?08:46
kvidellPPhsop08:46
kvidellPhotoshop*08:46
DrajkaBelutz, I've already looked at that ;/08:46
kvidellsorry, ssh is getting sticky... *wonders where the bandwidth went*08:46
=== mello6 [n=mellowyl@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
MAPDi use photoshop on windows08:47
BelutzDrajka: using synaptics, try to search libdvdcss208:47
MAPDkvidell run OSX on x8608:47
=== levander [i=cponder@user-1121c7a.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
kvidellMAPD: No, I'm okay :-P08:47
levanderCan you play DRM protected WMA files on Linux?08:47
kvidellI prefer to run it on optimised hardware.08:47
kvidellbesides, I'd have to dual boot or lose my *nix box.08:48
kvidelland I <3 my Debian boxes so :-P08:48
Maikerube back later08:48
Maikerugonna install a different linux distro08:48
=== Riskbreaker9 [n=dfafdsa@pool-71-243-35-118.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Riskbreaker9hello08:49
Maikerugot 200gigs here and it can't -all- go to ubuntu :)08:49
=== amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkahai n00bz08:49
Drajkahmm08:49
kvidellhi!08:49
DrajkaHow do I access the sources.list file08:49
Drajka:x08:49
DrajkaSo I can replace the repositories using copy paste of an entire list08:50
kvidellsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
=== penguin42 [n=dg@dsl-212-23-14-246.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
penguin42anyone running Ubuntu with mainly gnome but also with KDE installed can do a test for me?08:50
Riskbreaker9I have a question... when I try to change my screen resolution, ubuntu tells me I need to upgrade my X server to version 4.3, and that I don't have something called XRandR (rotate and resize)... can someone help me with this?08:50
Xorlevsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
BelutzDrajka: /etc/apt/sources.list08:51
pepsihow can i tell if a linux install is ubuntu by looking at the filesystem?08:51
penguin42pepsi: Have a look at /etc/issue08:51
BlueEaglepepsi: /etc/issue perhaps?08:51
pepsii see08:51
XorlevYou can tell its a Linux install, but not really the distro.08:51
BlueEagleWhere can I find a list of packages that are availible for installation. Thinks like eggdrop and aterm08:52
kandoorathrush: r u there08:52
Riskbreaker9hello?08:52
pepsi/etc/issue says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" Development Branch08:52
HappyFoolBlueEagle: packages.ubuntu.com08:52
Drajkawhich archetecure is mine... if I'm using amd6408:52
HappyFoolBlueEagle: apt-cache and synaptic are good too, if you've enabled all the repositories08:52
Drajkai686?08:52
HappyFoolello Riskbreaker908:52
=== youngcoder [n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xorlevx64 I think08:52
Xorlevi686 is still 32bit.08:53
=== kefkey [n=selwyn@204-212-120-129.setardsl.aw] has left #ubuntu []
=== kandoora is looking for an expert in modem drivers
penguin42pepsi: pepsi: Something like   grep -qi  ubuntu /etc/issue && echo "You have ubuntu"08:53
=== goldnlink [n=goldnlin@cpc2-stoc1-6-0-cust91.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== kernow [n=kernow@82-32-209-113.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== bun2 [n=bun2@P-1.123.EUnet.yu] has joined #ubuntu
=== kernow [n=kernow@82-32-209-113.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== goldnlink [n=goldnlin@cpc2-stoc1-6-0-cust91.midd.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu [""I]
DrajkaI might be having a problem installing libdvdcss...08:53
=== aRAchNiON [n=chatzill@109-242.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu []
BlueEagleWhen I try to: apt-get install eggdrop I get E: Couldn't find package eggdrop08:54
bun2i tried to change xorg.conf but my resolution is still LOW08:54
DrajkaSo.. I'll paste the install log in the pastebin and see what you guys think, if it dosen't work.08:54
Riskbreaker9can you help me?08:54
bun2i'm going to kill myselff08:54
=== kent [n=kent@h55d210.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu
bun2please help me08:54
XorlevRiskbreaker9: Whats the problem?08:54
penguin42anyone running a konsole ? Tell me if logname works for them08:54
=== c0rrupt_ [n=joe@cpe-69-207-74-118.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
tommi^I remember debian had something called "non world readable home directories" or such question. I still haven't gotten an answer why new user's directories are drwxr-xr-x so that everybody can read'em. Thanks for your time. :)08:55
=== Will^Draven [i=1000@cpe-071-065-211-035.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Cyber-shothell all08:55
Cyber-shoti can't read *.chm file in ubuntu08:55
Xorlevpenguin42: $ logname08:55
Xorlevlogname: no login name08:55
Cyber-shothow i need to do08:55
Cyber-shotpls help me08:55
Cyber-shot>:D<08:55
XorlevCyber-shot: Google helps.08:55
penguin42Xorlev: Thanks - are you running a full KDE setup or just a konsole running under gnome?08:55
XorlevFull KDE08:55
penguin42Cyber-shot: What is chm?08:55
Riskbreaker9I have a question... when I try to change my screen resolution, ubuntu tells me I need to upgrade my X server to version 4.3, and that I don't have something called XRandR (rotate and resize)... can someone help me with this?08:55
Cyber-shotpenguin42,08:55
DaveyCHM is the Windows Help File format08:56
penguin42Xorlev: Thnaks, ok I was running konsole under mostly gnome, so it is not just that which does it  - hmm I'll ask the #kde guys08:56
Cyber-shotchm file is like help file in software08:56
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, you can still change your res but it has to be before X starts08:56
Riskbreaker9oh, how would i do that?08:56
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, you need Resize and Rotate (RandR) to do it dyanmically (without virtual screens)08:56
fivetwentysixAnyone know how to get my headset working which is connected through my usb soundcard?08:56
penguin42Cyber-shot: There is a package called xchm08:56
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:56
penguin42Cyber-shot: If you have the 'universe' enabled then you should be able to install it08:57
Riskbreaker9can i just do that right now in a terminal window?08:57
Drajkak08:57
XorlevWhy would anyone want to defile their system with a Windows help file?08:57
Drajkawhen installing something08:57
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9,08:57
thedevilsjesternano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:57
Drajkashoul di use tar.gz or tar.bz208:57
DaveyCyber-shot, there is also http://gnochm.sourceforge.net/08:57
=== beezly [n=andy@2001:618:400:1ad7:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #ubuntu
bun2new people are here so i'm going to ask again08:58
Xorlevtar.bz2 produces smaller archives than tar.gz08:58
=== pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevThey're the same files.08:58
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, look towards the bottom where it list resolutions08:58
bun2i can't change my screen resolution08:58
bun2it's low08:58
MAPDgtg08:58
MAPDbye thanks08:58
thedevilsjesterbun2, tried your xorg.conf?08:58
penguin42Xorlev: Only down side is bz2 tends to take longer to compress08:58
thedevilsjesterbun2, nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:58
bun2in "change res" dropdown menu i can see only 640x48008:58
thedevilsjesterbun2, you need to list the res08:58
thedevilsjesterbun2, in your xorg.conf file08:59
Riskbreaker9yup, I see a bunch of them listed.08:59
BlueEagleahh.. apt-get update seems to have fixed it. :)08:59
XorlevTrue penguin42, but when downloading already created files, I go for tar.bz2.08:59
kandoorais inkscape prepacked in ubuntu?08:59
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, what I have done in the past is remove all the res'es that I dont want to use, forcing it to use the only one left08:59
bun2thedevilsjester: i tried with xorg.conf... how to list the res?08:59
meeepso here i am again, in desperate need of getting my ATi graphics going. im just too newbish to understand howto? any help?08:59
XorlevWhen downloading the PHP source, its a difference of 1mb.08:59
XorlevSo the gain is measurable.09:00
thedevilsjesterbun2, towards the bottom it should list a bunch of resolutions09:00
Xorlevmeeep: Been to http://www.ubuntuforums.org?09:00
XorlevTheres a nice guide on installing ATi propritetary drivers.09:00
=== c0rrupt_ [n=joe@cpe-69-207-74-118.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
bun2thedevilsjester: so?09:00
Rayenjust wondering why everyone always use 'nano -w file' instead of 'nano file' ?09:00
=== pete-h [n=pete@81-178-251-3.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
XorlevI use nano file o.o09:00
Drajka...09:01
thedevilsjesterbun2, remove all but the res(es) you want09:01
DrajkaTotem still is bitching.09:01
penguin42kandoora: Yes09:01
c0rrupt_hello, is anyone familiar with firestorm...09:01
DrajkaEvery time I try to play a dvd..09:01
DrajkaThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?09:01
thedevilsjesterbun2, if there isnt many, add some to the list09:01
XorlevRayen: -w is nowrap09:01
kandoorahow do i install it09:01
DrajkaI just installed libdvdcss.09:01
kandoorapenguin42: how do i install it09:01
thedevilsjesterbun2, i.e.   Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"09:01
bun2thedevilsjester: i tried that and i logged off but it's still the same09:01
c0rrupt_error while loading shared libraries: libfirestorm.so.009:01
meeep!ati09:02
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:02
RayenXorlev what does 'nowrap' mean?09:02
c0rrupt_cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:02
penguin42kandoora: The same way you install anything else - from the command line     sudo apt-get install inkscape    or use the package manager from System->Administration->Package Manager if you prefer gui09:02
thedevilsjesteryou have to reboot x09:02
thedevilsjesterbun2, goto GDM and type ctrl+alt+backspace09:02
Cyber-shotyea09:02
Cyber-shotchm is winodwo help file format09:02
Cyber-shotbut09:02
Cyber-shoti can't read in ubuntu09:02
c0rrupt_me?09:02
Cyber-shothow i need to do?09:02
thedevilsjestererr press09:02
Cyber-shotpenguin42, how i need to do?09:02
Cyber-shothow i install it?09:02
c0rrupt_o/009:02
Cyber-shotyea?09:02
Cyber-shotok09:02
Cyber-shotthanks09:03
kandoorapenguin42: strange thing is it didn't work, i tried it09:03
kandoorapen09:03
penguin42Cyber-shot: You know how to install packages?09:03
GNULinuxerguys, mkinitrd doesn't create any initrd image nor does it display any errors ... what's the problem?09:03
XorlevRayen: lines don't wrap around the screen, they keep going.09:03
kandoorapenguin42: is scribus prepacked with ubuntu?09:03
Rayenoh ok09:03
=== kandoora [n=kandoora@ldd037.emirates.net.ae] has left #ubuntu []
penguin42kandoora: Use the package manager to find out - start it up and do a search in there for the package - then install it, if it doesn't find it then go to settings->Repositories and add ubuntu universe and multiverse09:04
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.127.81] has joined #ubuntu
c0rrupt_error while loading shared libraries: libfirestorm.so.009:04
c0rrupt_cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:04
zblachthere's no way to auto-detect network printers, is there?09:05
c0rrupt_thats the error when i run #firestorm-nids09:05
=== icewt [n=icewt@MDCCCLXI.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu
c0rrupt_does anyone know whats wrong..09:05
=== Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.127.81] has joined #ubuntu
XorlevRayen: especially useful for config files with long lines.09:05
h17m4nis there a more clarified howto for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:06
=== sig [n=sig@unaffiliated/sig] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkak.. Need help09:08
DrajkaThis won't compile.09:08
Drajkahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187009:08
seifesomeone help me09:08
penguin42c0rrupt_: You are mssing a library - whereever you got firestorm from look there09:08
seifei would like to put the network of my home09:08
seifewith my comp that acts like server using ubuntu09:08
=== Pelalil [n=thomas@cpc2-hatf2-6-0-cust109.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
c0rrupt_but penguin42 its there09:08
penguin42c0rrupt_: Where?09:08
c0rrupt_/usr/local/lib/libfirestorm.so.009:09
c0rrupt_slocate returns a number of locations09:09
penguin42c0rrupt_: Ah - try doing   export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  in the same terminal you then try and start it from09:09
c0rrupt_also /usr/local/lib/libfirestorm.so.0.0.0 is there..09:09
Blissexseife: thats not clear, but probably it is not difficult.09:09
penguin42Drajka: Do you know basic C programming?09:09
c0rrupt_ok09:09
Blissexseife: try to be more precise as to what you want to achieve. Ask a specific question.09:09
c0rrupt_penguin42, it worked09:09
h17m4nany fglrx users here?09:09
h17m4nthat could help?09:10
c0rrupt_what did that just do?09:10
penguin42c0rrupt_: It told the linker to search for libraries in /usr/local/lib as well as the standard places09:10
DrajkaEh09:10
c0rrupt_thanks09:10
penguin42c0rrupt_: If you want to make it do that permenantly add a line to /etc/ld.so.conf09:10
DrajkaI know... some very basic C.. some BASIC.. and a small amount of C++09:10
penguin42Drajka: OK, try writing a little 'hello world' program and see whether gcc will compile it for you09:11
Drajkak.. I'll try.09:11
Blissexh17m4n: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions09:11
Riskbreaker9thedevilsjester: so is it like really inconvenient to install this XRandR or something?09:11
Myrtti!root09:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:12
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, I come from a "compile from source" distro, so it is for me09:12
=== mustafu [n=aeris@24-180-195-240.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, it might be easier with apt, but recompiling X is something I try to avoid09:12
c0rrupt_its not fully loading09:12
c0rrupt_"1125774594.221117 error: exit: capture: cant find 'pcap'"09:12
Drajkapenguin42, , I don't know hwo to...09:12
Drajkauhh..09:12
Drajkacompile it from here. ;] 09:12
=== BlueEagle [n=blueeagl@ti541210a080-8421.bb.online.no] has left #Ubuntu []
DrajkaI have it in a .txt09:12
Riskbreaker9egh, i'd have to recompile X?09:13
=== ubuntuguy [n=user1@host-24-149-222-45.patmedia.net] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjesterRiskbreaker9, most likely09:13
tdnRight now I have a 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. How do I upgrade it so that it is a 686-kernel? I have an AMD Athlon 1400MHz. So I dont know which package I should install: linux-image-2.6.11-1-386, linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 or linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7? Can you help me?09:13
penguin42Drajka: Hmm ok - rename the file to hello.c  and type   gcc hello.c09:13
Drajkawell it's c++09:14
=== ompaul [n=tpjohn@159-134-128-133.as1.pal.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkaso.. .cpp?09:14
chavotdn, you can use the k7 kernel09:14
GyozaHey, if I try that "nvidia-opengl-config enable" thing, would it wack out hibernation?09:14
penguin42nod09:14
chavobut you won't notice any difference09:14
penguin42tdn: Install the 'linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7' package09:14
Blissextdn: the '-686' or '-k7' packages should be OK.09:14
ompaulalsamixergui shows PCM to be muted how do I unmute it?09:14
thedevilsjesterompaul, press M09:15
c0rrupt_penguin42, it says #exit: capture: cant find 'pcap'09:15
protok0lah crap, i lost the scrollback. what do i put in ~/.gnomerc to export my $PATH09:15
thedevilsjesterompaul, atleast in alsamixer for ncurses09:15
tdnBlissex, ok. Then what is the difference between the two? Which is best?09:15
tdnchavo, penguin42: ok.09:15
=== Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-154-135-238.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
tdnpenguin42, why 2.6.10 and not 2.6.11?09:15
penguin42c0rrupt_: When does it say that?09:16
=== Maikeru sighs
Blissextdn: the difference is that '-686' is slightly more compatible with other CPUs, and '-k7' is precisely for Athlons, so in theory it should be a tiny bit better.09:16
penguin42tdn: 2.6.10-5 is the standard version on ubuntu still, you could install the 2.6.11 version in universe09:16
ompaulthedevilsjester, I have gone to the curses mixer and it does not accept M :( on the pcm item it is saying post 3D ,,,09:16
HappyFoolseveas has railed against the 2.6.11 in the repos a few times ;)09:16
HappyFoolapparently it was for testing09:16
=== Maikeru waits for seveas
=== meeep [n=pontus@h27n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
Maikeruuntil theb09:17
c0rrupt_penguin42, when i run firestorm-nids09:17
meeepis 5300 FPS in glxgears good?09:17
MaikeruI guess I'll bang my head against the wall09:17
thedevilsjesterompaul, have you tried amixer via the command line?09:17
c0rrupt_the other plugins load succesfully.. but when it gets to pcap it fails09:17
syndwhats better, Beagle or Spotlight?09:17
tdnBlissex, ok09:17
meeepis 5300 FPS in glxgears good for a x800pro?09:17
spolameeep, run fgl_glxgears09:17
spolathats the real one09:18
tdnpenguin42, ok. But why should I not use the 2.6.11? Isn't it stable enough? Wouldn't you use it?09:18
penguin42c0rrupt_: Bit odd for it to be  a runtime thing, pcap is a library that you can install09:18
ompaulthedevilsjester, it was spdif out that needed the M :) thanks for that09:18
penguin42tdn: Yeh it probably is - just unless you need it then sticking to something in the ubuntu main is a bit more tested09:18
meeepspola, that gives 1.3 K fps, good or not?09:18
c0rrupt_libcap-bin?09:18
thedevilsjestermeeep,  1000+ is good09:18
meeepwell, ok, it shows up to 2.3 there as well :)09:18
spolaacceptable :p09:19
meeepok, TY09:19
h17m4nOk, so I followed this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and ran into problems. After changing fglrx to ati and rebooting, I'd get no image.09:19
=== jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-236.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkagod damnit09:19
penguin42c0rrupt_: Try installing libpcap0.809:19
Drajkawhat's the exit() command for C++09:19
DrajkaI can't remember =|09:19
Drajkaer09:20
Drajkantoc ommand09:20
Drajkabut for the coding, so I can end the code and compile09:20
penguin42you don't need one09:20
tdnpenguin42, ok.09:20
meeepso, do i have to "obtain" doom3, UT 2004(or something) just like normal, or is it some special linux edition i need?09:20
=== __filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has joined #ubuntu
Maikeruwahhhh09:20
=== Maikeru cries
=== contrasutra [n=ben@pcp03313000pcs.wchryh01.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["You]
=== bipolar [n=bipolar@66.216.151.137.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu
DrajkaSigh, what's wrong with this, penguin09:20
Drajkahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187109:20
=== Nalioth_zZz is now known as Nalioth_wrkn
ompauldang thing is so fast that led zepplin is faster than metallica09:21
Blissexmeeep: the UT series have the Linux binaries included; Doom3 for Linux is a separate buy. You can also download the UT2004 demo for Linux to get an idea.09:21
penguin42Drajka: How far does it get  - you probably want to #include <fstream.h> (or is it ofstream()09:21
bipolardoes anyone have a source for an up to date gnucash? I switched from fedora and now gnucash crashes trying to open the file from the newer version.09:21
__filip_i follow an guide at ubuntuforums that was makeing my application start faster but know some applications dont work anymore, i dont find it. Someone have an link or know how i can uninstall it?09:22
meeepBlissex, good, how 'bout enemy territory, is it doable for linux?09:22
spolameeep, it depends, some games release a linux client (but you'll still need to find the artwork on a cd), other games don't but many games can be ran through cedag / winx / whatever is hip right now09:22
spolaET works perfectly09:22
penguin42bipolar: Which version do you need?09:22
=== Maikeru kicks something
MaikeruI want to shoot something09:22
Blissexmeeep: no idea, but look at the Linux Gaming FAQ on http://WWW.Icculus.org/ and also look for the site called Linux Game Tome etc.09:22
Maikeruargh09:22
=== Pelalil [n=thomas@cpc2-hatf2-6-0-cust109.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu ["Client]
DrajkaNaw09:22
DrajkaNow it' snot understanding cin / cout09:23
meeepspola, dont intend to use an emulator, the games that works on linux i will use, no others :)09:23
thedevilsjester__filip_, you talking about prelink?09:23
bipolarpenguin42, I think it was 1.8.1109:24
__filip_yes, that was the name09:24
bipolarpenguin42, I don't know what verson it will take to be compatible.09:24
penguin42bipolar: Hmm, I can see source for 1.8.10 in debian's pool09:24
thedevilsjester__filip_,  just uninstalling it wont do anything09:24
__filip_thedevilsjester: you know how i can get it uninstall?09:24
=== tehwindi [n=windi@nat.wia.cz] has joined #ubuntu
thedevilsjester__filip_, it modified your executables, you need to undo the changes09:24
__filip_how?09:24
__filip_okej09:25
thedevilsjester__filip_, google for a prelink howto, I dont know offhand, its a simple prelink command09:25
bipolarpenguin42, thats strange... I wonder why ubuntu doesn't have it.09:25
__filip_ok09:25
penguin42bipolar: Probably just in debian/unstable09:25
Maikerusigh09:25
=== seife [n=arturo_m@200.85.75.85] has joined #ubuntu
Drajka.................09:25
Drajkapenguin.....09:25
Drajkalol....09:25
DrajkaI just realized this....09:25
Drajkawe can't use gcc09:25
Drajkawe need to use G++09:26
Drajkalol09:26
penguin42nah gcc will do it with a .cpp file09:26
DrajkaI used G++ and it didn't complain much09:26
penguin42shrug ok09:26
Maikerucan someone e-mail me a gun?09:26
penguin42Maikeru: Sure, a glider gun do you?09:26
MaikeruI wanna shoot something09:27
Maikerucause nothing else is going good for me09:27
=== ruggo [n=ruggo@c211-30-206-169.rivrw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkapenguin42,09:27
DrajkaHow do I try to run it now :O09:27
mello6does anyone use Breezy yet?09:27
mello6it's almost a month away09:27
seifeanyone here09:27
Maikeruwhat's the ETA of the release?09:28
seifei need help to fix my home network.09:28
=== jcape [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
MaikeruI hope it's Oct 1409:28
mello6why?09:28
Maikeruthat'd be the best bday present ever09:28
__filip_thedevilsjester: you know that you can uninstall prelink? i dont find anythink09:28
mello6haha09:28
mello6yeah, it usually comes out near the 10th09:28
mello6if i'm not mistaken09:28
penguin42Drajka: well if it produced a binary called a.out you can run it - if it didn't you look at the errors and find out why - chances are the errors you get there will be the same errors as your original problem09:28
Maikeruhrm09:28
thedevilsjester__filip_, gimme a sec09:28
Maikerunow09:29
=== juanej [n=juanej@cable200-116-218-88.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu
Drajkaok..09:29
MaikeruI also need a hammer09:29
DrajkaThen how do I run it09:29
Drajka<.<09:29
Maikeruto smash this fucking wireless card09:29
DrajkaThe a.out <.<09:29
__filip_thedevilsjester: jupp09:29
Maikeruor the laptop09:29
Maikeruone or the other09:29
mello6Maikeru, are you on Hoary?09:29
Maikeruyeah09:29
penguin42Drajka: ./a.out09:29
thedevilsjester__filip_, prelink -ua09:29
Drajkaoh, look at that :] 09:29
Drajkait works09:29
penguin42Drajka: Damn - I'd assumed it would fail and the failure would tell us why your original configure couldn't run the C compiler.....09:30
seifeanyone helping me:'( ?09:30
__filip_thedevilsjester: thanx09:30
thedevilsjester__filip_, np09:30
Drajka:[09:30
seifeI need a Network Guru09:30
c0rrupt_penguin42, libpcap0.8 is already the newest version.09:30
=== z0unds [n=kenan@x1-6-00-e0-18-de-7f-16.k380.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
penguin42c0rrupt_: Shrug - you'll need to look at the thing thats using it then09:30
ompaulwhats the situation with a CD playing from the drive too fast but grip rips no problem and encodes09:30
z0undsokay works now also used mkfs, how do i make a link to it on the desktop09:31
Maikeruanyone know when seveas will most likely be on? ;/09:31
c0rrupt_hmm?09:31
=== penguin42 taps his foot twice on the channel
c0rrupt_Lol09:31
__filip_i have one more question, has you run linux before try ubuntu? it is to everyone09:31
=== tehwindi [n=windi@nat.wia.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Drajka:O09:31
=== Narcotic [n=trip@c9062ad0.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
Blissex__filip_: yes, for the paste dozen years...09:31
z0undshow do i make a link on the desktop to /mnt/hda6 ?09:32
bipolarugh.... the gnucash dependancys are screwing with me trying to install the gnucash from debian09:32
z0undsin the desktop folder that is09:32
__filip_what distro?09:32
ompaul__filip_, well lets see if we can work that out, I have been using various Linux and BSD stuff for ten years and Ubuntu is almost a year old :)09:32
=== xxviperzlairxx [i=xxviperz@cary-e-075.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
xxviperzlairxxhello09:32
Blissexompaul: that a CD plays from the drive too fast is really very unlikely.09:32
seifesomeone09:32
seifehelp me09:32
h17m4nwhat is the command to restart gdm?09:32
seifeplease09:32
seife!09:32
ubotuseife: Not a clue09:32
thedevilsjesterh17m4n, ctrl+alt+backspace  while in gdm...09:33
__filip_ompaul: have ever run windows? you know how windows works?09:33
thedevilsjesterh17m4n, that will restart X too09:33
Blissexseife: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions09:33
ompaulBlissex, you know that is a reasonsable point, it must be the software09:33
Blissexh17m4n: depends... but <thedevilsjester>'s suggestion sounds reasonable; else 'killall gdm'09:34
xxviperzlairxxWhen does the next release of Ubuntu come out?09:34
thedevilsjesterBlissex, h17m4n already left :P09:34
ompaul__filip_, years ago and for various employers over the last few years09:34
Blissexompaul: or perhaps a wacked ALSA setup. Read the troublehsooting and sound quality sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 for possible hints09:34
__filip_okej09:34
=== seife [n=arturo_m@200.85.75.85] has joined #ubuntu
Maikerulalalalala09:35
=== Pyf [n=meep@cpc3-basf3-6-1-cust55.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
seifeok09:35
seifesomeone09:35
seifeplease help09:35
seife:'(09:35
thedevilsjesterBlissex, it would have to restart GDM because it reboots X and GDM depends on X :)09:35
ompaul__filip_, and I have used mac os and os X and mainframes :)09:35
=== ogra [n=ogra@p5089DA99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== arnieboy [n=arnieboy@68-68-100-80.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulBlissex, yeah I just got this working it could be a kludege09:35
ompaulBlissex, kludge09:36
__filip_so you have run all OS nextly? have you run that..hmm what is it call?09:36
__filip_bos09:36
arnieboyanybody got vdrift working?09:36
__filip_BEos i think09:36
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
ompaul__filip_, that was a nice idea lasted about a year09:37
=== Bateau_ [n=Bateau@ti211110a080-7106.bb.online.no] has joined #Ubuntu
__filip_mopaul: ok09:37
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Bateau_hey! i need gcc and c compiler and so on.. is there a package that has all these basic things in it? so that i dont have to install all packages by myself. (im trying to compile a program, and it says i need a c compiler, and gcc)09:38
ompaulBateau_, apt-get install build-essential09:39
seifehow i see wich network cards are available and how do i configure network connections09:39
Bateau_ah, thanks ompaul :D09:39
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifephew09:40
seifenobody helps me here.09:41
seifeive asked like 3 times09:41
Pyfhi im following ubuntuguide.org and trying to install azureus, it says i need to install a java runtime, which i try and do, but i get"E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" when I "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"09:41
Pyfwhat am i doing wrong?09:41
arnieboysystem -->administration -->networking @seife09:42
ompaulseife, click on system adminstration networking09:42
seifethank u so much09:42
arnieboyhave u added the backports repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list @pyf09:42
=== amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
seifethanks09:43
=== z0unds [n=kenan@x1-6-00-e0-18-de-7f-16.k380.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
arnieboycheck http://ubuntuguide.org#repositories for details09:44
arnieboy@pyf09:44
=== jcape [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
z0undswhat option should i set in fstab to make the partition accesible by all users? (dosnt work with default or users)09:45
ompaulz0unds, is it not the function of fstab to do that09:45
z0undsthen what09:45
=== pekka^ [n=pekka@c-5d7b71d5.05-171-6c756c1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
seifei turned on the network stuff09:47
seifeput the ip09:47
El_Che&/wc09:47
=== El_Che [n=claudio@213.193.225.53] has left #ubuntu []
seifebut my dad is still dont getting internet on his comp09:47
pekka^could some kind soul please help me configure my logitech quickcam pro 3000? :)09:48
=== Baltor [n=epatters@cpe-66-25-147-179.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifehelp09:50
pekka^been looking through documentation, forums, you name it. still can't get the cam to work properly, the problem is the picture is too dark :(09:50
=== ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-71-240-199-143.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Cyber-shothello all09:51
Cyber-shothow to install  gnochm in ubuntu?09:51
=== darksatanic [n=hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== GNULinuxer [n=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu
=== sig [n=sig@unaffiliated/sig] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolCyber-shot: it doesn't seem to be in the repositories; one option is to install from source09:53
=== chrismy [n=Christop@218.111.150.182] has joined #ubuntu
chrismyyo yo09:53
thellamayo09:54
pekka^yo09:54
=== GodFather [n=rcc@c-67-167-133-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
chrismylol09:54
thellama^_^09:54
pekka^:P09:54
thellamamy ibook can't sleep in hoary09:55
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.127.81] has joined #ubuntu
thellamait says something about not finding cpu freq on wake09:55
chrismyi swould like to know what is the best compression free software for video and audio for linux.09:55
thellamaffmepgx?09:55
thellama*ffmpegx09:55
pekka^is there anyone in this channels that is a guru when it comes to webcaming in linux?09:55
Cyber-shotpls help me09:55
Cyber-shot>:D<09:55
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bIs there anyway to run RealVNC on Ubuntu?09:55
chrismyffmpegx?09:56
h17m4nI'm trying to install fglrx, and I get this: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-amd6409:56
GNULinuxermkinitrd is NOT creating any initrd image ... nor there is any error ... any ideas?09:56
thellamawoops, thats for mac only09:56
thellamasorry09:56
thellamait's a gui frontend to ffmpeg09:56
thellamayou guys have to admit, tiger is much more polished than hoary...09:57
ionrockdoes anyone know of a good way to get rid of anything mono related? the breezy packages haven't been working at all for me so I would just like to compile things from scratch09:57
Pyfhmmm, ive added the repositories now and it says "killall gnome-panel" when i "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"09:57
GNULinuxerthellama: no doubt ...09:57
seifehow i put a network connection to share internet ?09:57
seifesomething like allow other computer networks to use my internet09:57
seifehow?09:57
Pyfmeh, wrong copy, it actually says "Unable to lock the download directory"09:57
=== regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.179.211.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
seifehow i put a network connection to share internet ?09:58
seifemy internet09:58
pekka^anybody realised this channel is filled with people asking questions but no one hardly ever answers them? :)09:58
GNULinuxerpekka^: heh09:59
chrismythellama, how about ffmpeg2theora? is it better than the ffmpeg?09:59
HappyFoolPyf: you're running synaptic or another aptitude or apt-get process09:59
=== aurax [i=aurax@bzq-179-88-253.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== aurax [i=aurax@bzq-179-88-253.cablep.bezeqint.net] has left #ubuntu []
thellamachrismy: hmm09:59
LasseLthe "answering team" must be taking a day off :)09:59
=== aurax [i=aurax@bzq-179-88-253.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== thellama checks
auraxsup guys09:59
HappyFoolPyf: or something crashed and didn't release the lock10:00
pekka^yeah something like that :P10:00
=== hamourabi [n=hamourab@62.84.67.170] has joined #ubuntu
thellamai preffer ffmpeg to ffmep2theora10:00
hamourabiI need to install gcc on my box10:00
LasseLPyf, did you enable backports?10:00
HappyFoolhamourabi: install the 'build-essential' package; it's on the cd10:00
thellamaffmpeg2theora is only a simple converter10:00
chrismythellama, why is it?10:00
thellamaffmpeg is much more10:00
thellamamore codecs10:01
LasseLPyf, try searching for "sun" in synaptic10:01
thellamamore options10:01
UbuntuN00bI need help installing AIM.10:01
thellamaaim?10:01
thellamahow about gaim?10:01
LasseLUbuntuN00b, try gaim10:01
UbuntuN00bYEs.10:01
UbuntuN00bI want to try AIM.10:01
=== apokryphos [n=dw@host-87-74-3-105.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
thellamay?10:01
UbuntuN00bThe one that AOL Released.10:01
thellamagaim does aim10:01
UbuntuN00bYEs, I know.10:01
UbuntuN00bI just want to try it.10:01
thellamaokay...10:01
pekka^does anybody know how to modify the brightness and such on my webcam? the bars in gnomemeeting has no effect at all10:01
UbuntuN00bllama could you help?10:02
thellamait might mess up your computer UbuntuN00b10:02
HappyFoolUbuntuN00b: gaim is installed by default, i think10:02
HappyFoolUbuntuN00b: applications -> internet -> gaim10:02
UbuntuN00bIt's an experimental computer, i dont care.10:02
pekka^gqcam also does nothing, it gets a little brighter but not enough10:02
thellamaah okay10:02
=== thellama checks...
LasseLUbuntuN00b, are you sure the AOL version is for linux?10:02
UbuntuN00bYEs.10:03
UbuntuN00bThey release a new one.10:03
auraxis there a good firewall guide out there for ubuntu ?10:03
ionrockUbuntuN00b, I am doubting folks know how to install it. it is  a very very old version and gaim does most things just as and in the majority of cases, much better10:03
hamourabiHappyFool, I did download the ubuntu, I didnt buy it on a cd, I didnt find it in there :\10:03
=== ionrock looks into a new aim... just for fun :)
HappyFoolhamourabi: did you download the install cd ?10:03
hamourabiyeah10:03
HappyFoolhamourabi: put the install cd into the drive, and install 'build-essential' with synaptic10:04
=== Will^Draven [i=1000@cpe-071-065-211-035.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
auraxis there a good automated solution for ubuntu ?10:05
auraxautomated backup*10:05
ionrockhttp://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=  <-- I am sticking with gaim ;)10:05
HappyFoolaurax: maybe bacula? i'm sure there are several10:06
hamourabiI got it10:06
=== Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-138-357.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabimay I paste 2 lines?10:06
HappyFoolhamourabi: sure10:06
hamourabi./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'10:06
hamourabi./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'10:06
HappyFoolhamourabi: how are you installing this?10:06
hamourabichmod a+x build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb10:07
hamourabithe ./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb10:07
hamourabithen*10:07
HappyFoolno10:07
HappyFooluse synaptic10:07
HappyFoolor aptitude10:07
HappyFoolare you running gnome?10:07
hamourabihmm, I'm a newbie :(10:07
hamourabiyeah10:07
LasseLaurax, did you try searching in synaptic for backup?10:07
auraxHappyFool, i tell you what i wanna do10:07
auraxyeh LasseL10:07
auraxi found amanda,10:07
LasseLaurax, I am looking for a system too :)10:07
HappyFoolhamourabi: system -> administration -> synaptic10:07
LasseLaurax, bacula ?10:08
auraxi got ubuntu as a mail/gateway etc10:08
apokryphosManually installing build-essential seems pretty useless to me10:08
HappyFoolhamourabi: enter your user password10:08
apokryphosit's just a metapackage10:08
auraxpfft10:08
auraxloking intresting10:08
auraxi want to attach to it a USB drive10:08
LasseLaurax, i run a mail and samba server10:08
auraxbackup daily at certein hour10:08
LasseLaurax, a USB drive is just a mount10:08
LasseLaurax, nothing special about that10:08
auraxpoint is...10:08
HappyFoolhamourabi: then look for 'build-essential' in the list, right click it and choose 'Mark for installation' then click 'apply'10:08
auraxi got two 160gb's10:08
auraxone is / and the other is /usr10:08
chrismythellama, oh yeah. it does has A LOT or options! but it has no example how to use it.10:09
auraxhow can i backup them both to one drive10:09
auraxand restore when i need10:09
auraxany known configuration /10:09
aurax?10:09
HappyFoolhamourabi: if you don't understand, please tell me -- i will happily explain further10:09
=== zdennis [n=zdennis@66-227-241-58.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolaurax: you can maybe just use rsync if you want to copy everything10:10
zdennisi lost a network connection for about 2 seconds, and now my nfs mounts are freezing... i can't umount them because it says "Device is busy", but I can't remount them either. Any ideas?\10:10
hamourabiHappyFool,  I got an error10:10
hamourabiE: Type '...' is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
hamourabiE: The list of sources could not be read.10:10
hamourabiGo to the repository dialog to correct the problem.10:10
HappyFoolhamourabi: hmm10:10
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
HappyFoolhamourabi: you've edited /etc/apt/sources.list ?10:10
auraxrsync is imager?10:11
HappyFoolaurax: it copies files 'efficiently'10:11
LasseLaurax, I think rsync is more for keeping mirror ftp sites up to date10:11
HappyFoolaurax: if you want to image, you could maybe use dd, or something more specialized; i'm not familiar with disk imaging10:11
HappyFoolit's for sync'ing any two directory structures. very handy10:11
auraxahm10:12
auraxi prefer something i can backup pure backup10:12
auraxand pure restore10:12
auraxif system fails10:12
LasseLaurax, how much space is on your usb disc?10:12
aurax160 if i remember rightg10:12
hamourabiHappyFool, nah didnt yet, hold on to see whats in there10:12
auraxbut the os as it is now10:12
=== dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-24-4.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
auraxis like >10gigs10:12
LasseLaurax, that leaves you 160gb short10:12
LasseLok10:12
auraxyeah i thought about that, but i prefer like keep a backup of information only10:13
=== dereks [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiHappyFool, what should I do in there ?:(10:13
HappyFoolhamourabi: can you please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:13
LasseLaurax, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/209 ?10:14
HappyFoolhamourabi: you can view that file with gedit (e.g., 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' from the command line)10:14
auraxthx, checking ...10:14
hamourabiHappyFool, I used "nano"10:15
auraxLasseL10:15
auraxwont it be best to rar the mail server daily10:15
HappyFoolhamourabi: if you know how to cut-and-paste to the pastebin website with nano, ok;10:15
auraxand move it to another file system?10:15
auraxerr drive*10:15
LasseLaurax, no, you should find a way to do an incremental backup10:16
hamourabiHappyFool, I pasted10:16
hamourabihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187510:17
LasseLaurax, otherwise when your maildir gets bigger your server will spend half its time doing backups :)10:17
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok, just a second10:17
HappyFoolhamourabi: line 4 has three dots (...) -- they should not be there10:17
HappyFoolhamourabi: use nano to remove them, and save the file10:17
=== lobo_nz [n=lobo_nz@203-173-169-47.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiok10:17
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
hamourabiHappyFool, done.10:18
auraxLasseL -> http://freshmeat.net/projects/ribs/ ?10:18
HappyFoolhamourabi: when that is done, close synaptic and open it again10:18
LasseLaurax, http://www.fluffy.co.uk/boxbackup/10:18
huhmzHi. I just upgraded to breezy from hoary but my fonts arent displaying in firefox, what could be the problem?10:18
HappyFoolhamourabi: is it working now?10:19
auraxthx10:19
hamourabiyeah10:20
Maikerurawr10:21
MaikeruI'm installing winecvs10:21
=== Bateau_ [n=Bateau@ti211110a080-7106.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
Maikeruwhee10:21
auraxLasseL i dont need backup server/client10:21
auraxjust one solution with cronjob10:22
=== ompaul [n=tpjohn@159-134-128-47.as1.pal.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu
LasseLaurax, boxbackup does that10:22
=== fevel [n=fevel@200.217.200.222] has joined #ubuntu
fevelcan someone help me to install my scanner10:23
fevelxsane doesntseem to support it10:23
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-11201bc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
fevelits a parallel scanner10:23
Unit134679anyone here can help me with a GRUB problem?10:23
MaikeruState what the problem is10:24
Maikerube specific10:24
LasseLaurax, I have about 300gb of data and nowhere to put it all, so I have to just backup the 30gb most important stuff10:24
Maikeruelse we don't know if we can or can't10:24
=== frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Bateau_hey. when i try to install "build-essential", i get this error that i need gcc-3.3 installed. do i find it in the synaptic list nad try to install. this says that i need cpp-3.3. but i cant find that in synaptic. what to do?10:24
fevelxsane doesnt recognize the device10:24
Unit134679mind if i pm you Maikeru? its long10:24
apokryphosBateau_: are you trying to install build-essential from synaptic?10:25
Maikeruhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:25
Bateau_apokryphos: no, i typed that in a console10:25
Bateau_apt-get and so on10:25
Bateau_:P10:25
apokryphosBateau_: and, perhaps the external repositories are commented out in your sources.list10:25
MaikeruPaste there and give us the URL and we'll take a look10:25
MaikeruCause I might not be able to help but someone else might be able to10:25
HappyFoolgcc etc are on the cd10:25
HappyFoolbuild-essential should Just Work10:25
Bateau_apokryphos: oki? which on is to be uncommented?10:26
apokryphosHappyFool: build-essential on the CD? Hm.10:26
HappyFoolapokryphos: yip10:26
Bateau_i dont have the cd :P10:26
HappyFoolapokryphos: and its dependencies (bit pointless otherwise)10:26
HappyFoolah10:26
apokryphosYes. One sec, I'll double-check.10:26
=== sedatc [n=sedat@81.213.59.218] has joined #ubuntu
sedatchi all10:27
r0bbyhow would I go about getting the 000default file for sites-enabled in apache2?10:27
sedatcis there any body can help me10:27
HappyFoolsedatc: tell us the problem, maybe we can10:27
apokryphosyup, build-essential seems to be there10:27
apokryphosBateau_: can you http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/apt/sources.list10:27
hamourabiHappyFool, gcc is installed :D10:28
HappyFoolhamourabi: well done ;)10:28
Unit134679Maikeru: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d187610:28
Bateau_apokryphos: oki 1 sec :)10:28
hamourabibut I still have many to install :(10:28
sedatcI am trying to use eclipse when I try to run it from gui it says there is no jre installed10:28
HappyFoolsedatc: you probably need to install java10:28
HappyFool!java10:28
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:28
apokryphosBateau_: did you say you *don't* have hte cd?10:28
=== sartas [n=sartas@212.37.115.158] has joined #ubuntu
sedatcwhen I try to execute script from console everything is okey why10:28
Bateau_apokryphos: thats right10:29
sartasshould i get breezy, you think?10:29
Bateau_apokryphos: i DONT have the cd10:29
sartasor: WHY should i get Breezy?10:29
apokryphosBateau_: yes, got it. We'll have to use the net to get it then10:29
hamourabiI'm trying to install the xmms the media player for linux :(10:29
apokryphossartas: you shouldn't, if you don't know what you're doing.10:29
Bateau_indeed :D10:29
hamourabiconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***10:29
sartasok10:29
r0bbyhamourabi, sudo apt-get install xmms10:29
seifecan u guys tell me an ubuntu network configuration help page10:29
seife!10:29
ubotuNo idea, seife10:29
HappyFoolhamourabi: xmms is in the repositories; you don't need to compile it10:29
=== protok0l [n=sfkdlgnk@user-0c9h0lq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
sartasanother thingy then: how do i start ubuntu calendar?10:30
protok0lfor some reason firefox will not install extensions10:30
sartas=D10:30
sartasprotokol:10:30
protok0lin the default ubuntu install10:30
sartasits a common problem10:30
hamourabiHappyFool, I have to ./configure10:30
hamourabithen make10:30
HappyFoolhamourabi: no10:30
hamourabiand make install10:30
hamourabithen ? :\10:30
ttyS0Is that possible to remove "nVidia" logo that appears before showing log-in screen? :)10:30
sartasyup10:30
HappyFoolhamourabi: you can enable network repositories, and install that way instead10:30
protok0lsartas: is there a fix for it?10:30
sartastty:10:30
HappyFoolhamourabi: *much* easier10:31
Unit134679can someone help me with my GRUB?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d187610:31
sartascheck ubuntuguide.org10:31
Bateau_apokryphos: what do i do to "use the net" then? what kind of repository do i need to ad :)10:31
sartasprotok0l: dont think so10:31
apokryphosBateau_: paste it and we'll see10:31
chrismyhow do i use the ffmpeg? it is more difficult than the ffmpeg3theora :(10:31
ttyS0thx10:31
chrismy*ffmpeg2theora10:31
Bateau_apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187710:31
HappyFoolhamourabi: read the page ubotu will be pointing you to10:31
HappyFool!tell hamourabi about repos10:32
apokryphosBateau_: hm, seems fine.10:32
apokryphosBateau_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential10:32
HappyFoolhamourabi: add the network repositories, and use synaptic to install xmms10:32
=== Patrick` [n=pitt2@pitt2.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Patrick`the torrent tracker is down?10:32
=== cfaun [n=cfaun@pool-151-204-78-190.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
EE|Bullzcan someone help me10:32
sedatcHappyFool: could be  there any problem with setting path for console and gui seperate10:32
Patrick`we can try10:32
sartasplease tell me: how do i run ubuntu-calendar?10:33
Unit134679can i get some help with my GRUB?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d187610:33
cfaunubuntu Why does the latest repository of ubuntu still have a critical security update in zlib?10:33
protok0lsartas: i dont see it on there10:33
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-11201bc.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
sartasprotok0l: what?10:34
chrismy!ffmpeg10:34
ubotuchrismy: I don't know10:34
sartasprotok0l: on ubuntu guide? that wasnt for you.. someone wanted to get rid of the nVidia logo10:34
=== z0unds [n=kenan@x1-6-00-e0-18-de-7f-16.k380.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
r0bbycan anybody give me a default sites-enabled file?10:34
r0bbyi was a nimrod and deleted mine10:35
r0bby:X10:35
=== fortran01 [i=che_sosa@openwire.metawire.org] has joined #ubuntu
r0bby000default :/10:35
HappyFoolsedatc: not really10:35
Patrick`jesus10:35
Patrick`official ubuntu people, I salute you10:36
HappyFoolsedatc: to set path for the console, use ~/.bashrc10:36
Patrick`good luck, don't get homicidal10:36
Patrick`I'm off10:36
Bateau_apokryphos: this happens: E: Build-dependencies for build-essential could not be satisfied.10:36
=== lathropwells [n=lathropw@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolsedatc: for gui, use ~/.gnomerc10:36
=== Patrick` [n=pitt2@pitt2.plus.com] has left #ubuntu []
Bateau_apokryphos: so it still dosent work10:36
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
=== NeverDream [n=neverdre@rrcs-70-61-110-39.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiHappyFool, I give up, what is the network repsitories ?10:36
z|banditohello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)10:36
apokryphosBateau_: doing sudo aptitude install gcc gives?10:36
hamourabinow I got the ubotu10:36
HappyFoolhamourabi: did you read the page ubotu told you about?10:36
EE|Bullzi have a problem :(10:36
sartas...10:36
hamourabiHappyFool,  didnt see them before10:36
EE|Bullzi do not have access to my own files10:36
sartas!ubuntu-calendar10:37
ubotusartas: What?10:37
ompaul!ask10:37
z|banditoor how can i determine the chipset to see if there is a bug report?10:37
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok, check them out and get back to me10:37
sartaslol.10:37
=== stimpack [n=raileh@55.Red-83-51-28.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
z|banditoi know it has i810 integrated graphics; not sure if that also does the sound10:37
ompaul!tell EE|Bullz about ask10:37
Bateau_apokryphos: gcc: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installable10:37
r0bbyi give up10:37
r0bby:/10:37
z|banditobullz did you try to do the sudo chmod thing/10:37
z|bandito?10:37
EE|Bullzno10:38
HappyFoolr0bby: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187810:38
EE|Bullzyou didnt tell me10:38
EE|Bullzyou like left10:38
z|banditosorry i had to go10:38
EE|Bullzoh it sok10:38
z|banditoi have an injury atm10:38
apokryphosBateau_: comment out hoary-backports and hoary-extras and retry10:38
EE|Bullzso what should i do to access that folder10:38
apokryphosBateau_: what other things have you installed on the system?10:38
lathropwells<<-- New All-in-Wonder video card inspires a dance on the chair. - lol10:38
z|banditoi have a couple of minutes10:38
ompaulEE|Bullz, which folder?10:38
EE|Bullzits one of my folders i downloaded called source10:38
z|banditotry and read the man pages on chmod or chown.. those are the commands you likely will need to use10:38
ompaulEE|Bullz, where is it?10:38
EE|Bullzdesktop10:39
z|banditothough admittadly the man pages can be hard to understand at times10:39
lathropwells!fglrx10:39
ubotuit has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:39
frank23Bateau_: Did you install packages from debian or other non-ubuntu sources?10:39
=== X7C [n=xtc@200.50.114.122] has joined #ubuntu
seifeman10:39
seifei cant get my network10:39
ompaulEE|Bullz, right click on it and tell me this whose name in on the file owner?10:39
seifeworking10:39
Bateau_frank23: no10:39
EE|Bullzk one sec10:39
Bateau_apokryphos: still the same message10:40
=== sartas [n=sartas@212.37.115.158] has left #ubuntu ["Lmnar"]
bullzits me bullz10:40
apokryphosBateau_: you commented them both out, saved the file, updated apt, then tried installing?10:40
bullzim on the computer10:40
Bateau_yes10:40
Bateau_but forgot to update :x10:41
apokryphosuseless, then. :P10:41
bullzompaul: what should i be looking for?10:41
bullzompaul: i right clicked..10:41
Bateau_ill try again :)10:41
frank23Bateau_: gcc-3.3 is in main. It should work. Can you install other packages?10:41
Bateau_frank23: yes. those who dont depend on gcc-3.3 :P10:41
ompaulbullz, there is a tab called permissions click that and read the name of the file owner10:42
bullz(some contents unreadable)10:42
bullzthe file owner is speed along with the file group10:42
lobo_nzanyone have any advice on the easiest way to get mysql5 installed?10:42
=== __filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulbullz, and what is your username10:42
bullzspeed10:42
bullz=\10:43
ompaulbullz, so you do have access to the file10:43
bullzno..10:43
bullzit has an x on the folder10:43
=== mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu
bullzwith a lock next to the x10:43
hamourabiHappyFool,  downloading package information, but seems it's stuck10:43
MaikeruUnit10:43
MaikeruI had Windows and Ubuntu on two different drives. When I installed Ubuntu, it was master and Windows was slave, and since GRUB wouldnt boot Windows since it was slave, I switched Windows to master and Ubuntu to slave. I can't install GRUB on the MBR, and I dont want to reinstall Ubuntu.10:43
MaikeruYou call ^^ THAT!? a big paste?10:43
MaikeruOh lord10:43
Maikeru!recover10:43
uboturecover is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:43
HappyFoolMaikeru: maybe he ran afoul of seveas once before ;)10:44
MaikeruPossibl10:44
MaikeruPossibly*10:44
MaikeruHe asked to pm me cause it was large10:44
Maikeruso I tell him to pastebin it10:44
HappyFoolhamourabi: i'd just wait10:44
Maikeruand paste it in here10:44
hamourabiokey10:44
Maikerucause if he just pmed me I might nt be able to help (not knowing the problem)10:44
Maikeruso he pastebins and pms me with the url10:44
Maikerulol10:44
fivetwentysixubotu lollll10:44
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, fivetwentysix10:44
ompaulbullz, in that tab under the owner which boxes are clicked10:45
bullzompaul: all of them10:45
fivetwentysixubotu usb sound10:45
ubotufivetwentysix: Are you on ritalin?10:45
fivetwentysixAnyone know how to get usb sound to work?10:46
hamourabifailed Release.gpg10:46
__filip_i have an USB harddrive that hade allways been automounted but not now when i put it in. why? and ho can i muont it?10:46
=== auk [n=scott@h-69-3-128-186.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Bateau_you dont have a solution apokryphos? :( im strugeling in the dark here D:10:47
aukpoofy!10:47
ompaulbullz, okay I want you to do a screen shot with that tab and the folder visible and put it in a pastebin10:47
seifeok10:47
seifei still cant get my network with internet10:47
seifeso its ubuntu10:47
apokryphosBateau_: did you try what I said?10:47
seife;:(10:47
bullzompaul im not right clicking on the folder10:48
Bateau_yes10:48
Bateau_it failed apokryphos  :(10:48
bullzi cant right click on it10:48
apokryphosBateau_: and same error? Ok. What other things have you installed sofar?10:48
apokryphosBateau_: can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep gcc10:48
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-11201bc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulbullz, you were if you were able to get the permissions which you called out to me afik - may I suggest you take a screenshot of that folder and put it in pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl10:49
=== lobo_nz [n=lobo_nz@203-173-169-47.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has left #ubuntu ["hmmm"]
=== fortran01 [i=che_sosa@openwire.metawire.org] has joined #ubuntu
Unit134679I had Windows and Ubuntu on two different drives. When I installed Ubuntu, it was master and Windows was slave, and since GRUB wouldnt boot Windows since it was slave, I switched Windows to master and Ubuntu to slave. I can't install GRUB on the MBR, and I dont want to reinstall Ubuntu.10:49
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiHappyFool, if the download will go through ftp, so I cann't get it, coz most of the ports the firewall blocks it, and I dont have access on the firewall.10:49
Dr_Willisgrub can boot the slave windows drive - if you do it right.10:49
Bateau_apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187910:50
=== Pyf [n=meep@cpc3-basf3-6-1-cust55.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolhamourabi: what can you access ? http?10:50
hamourabiand I got 2 Failed packages .10:50
apokryphosBateau_: there's your problem. You got gcc from somewhere else, apparently.10:50
Pyfi managed to crash mplayer and im a bit of a noob, how do i kill it, the equivalent of ctrl-alt-delete10:51
Pyf?10:51
HappyFoolhamourabi: i do not understand. Can you access http ?10:51
hamourabiHappyFool, I can access http. and the failed packages, its protocol is http.10:51
hamourabibut I dunno why Failed :/10:51
ompaulokay bullz I am on a modem - please save that as a jpg and put it on the pastebin - and don't send stuff to people unless they ask :)10:51
pajamaI have an AVER TVPhone98 tuner card, how can I configure it under Ubuntu?10:51
HappyFoolhamourabi: try 'reload' in synaptic10:51
=== ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-71-240-202-205.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Bateau_apokryphos:  aha.. how did that happen? i havent installed gcc, or any other ap. only from synaptic10:51
HappyFoolhamourabi: maybe there was a network glitch10:51
bullzim finding this too much over a folder10:51
apokryphosBateau_: I don't know if backports has it or something. Anyhow...10:51
bullzi might as well switch back to fedora core10:51
Dr_Willispajama,  may want to check google to see if that thing has any linux support at all.10:51
hamourabiHappyFool, I will canel the download?10:51
apokryphosBateau_: sudo apt-get remove gcc10:51
hamourabicancel*10:52
=== exil3 [n=exil3@ti131310a080-13024.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
exil3finally10:52
=== bullz is now known as Bullz||brb
Unit134679DR_Willis, how can i do it right then?10:52
Unit134679Dr_Willis*10:52
HappyFoolPyf: try application -> system tools -> system monitor10:52
HappyFoolPyf: it's a bit like windows task manager10:52
HappyFoolhamourabi: um10:52
Unit134679im not in Ubuntu10:52
Unit134679by the way10:52
Bateau_apokryphos: "Package gcc is not installed, so not removed"10:52
HappyFoolhamourabi: what are you downloading now? the synaptic reload still?10:52
exil3Sorry, I'm having problems with my resolution... where do i find a nvidia graphics pack.. mine didnt work10:52
Dr_WillisUnit134679,  there is some way to remap the slave to be master in the grub configs. been ages since ive had to do so.10:53
HappyFool!nvidia10:53
Unit134679oh10:53
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:53
=== Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosBateau_: sudo apt-get remove gcc-2.9510:53
=== Cyber-shot [n=Cyber@maze.mephi.ru] has joined #ubuntu
Dr_WillisUnit134679,  perhaps similer to 'remap 0x83 0x82' or somthing.. the x8# is like how the bios numbers the drives i recall.10:53
Unit134679well since i have Windows as the master now, i tried installed GRUB into the MBR but it wouldnt work10:53
exil3thanks ubot10:53
exil3u10:53
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
PyfHappyFool, ooh thanks :)10:54
hamourabiHappyFool, I did reload10:54
Dr_WillisUnit134679,  personally - i  use my mbs bios to boot each hard drive.. I can hit F11 and pick what HD to boot. :P10:54
hamourabiand it started to download Release packages10:54
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok10:54
thellamaokay, so i just installed opera with sudo dpkg -i, and i can start it by typing in opera at the command line, how come i dont have an icon in the app menu10:54
Dr_Willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/10:54
Unit134679well i would do that but i want to make it easy for other people who use my computer10:55
Bateau_apokryphos: oki, its done :)10:55
Dr_WillisGrub is one of those things that it pays to learn all about.10:55
thellamaanyone?10:55
=== z0unds [n=kenan@x1-6-00-e0-18-de-7f-16.k380.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Dr_Willismake a launcher then thellama  :P10:55
seifei think my other comps will never get internet :(10:55
HappyFoolthellama: easiest is to create an 'application launcher' on the panel (right-click, add to panel)10:55
thellamaah thanks!10:56
hamourabiHappyFool, all failed10:56
thellama:)10:56
apokryphosBateau_: hm, that gcc is from Universe actually. Weird. Try installing gcc now10:56
hamourabijust the one from cdrom is done.10:56
HappyFoolhamourabi: are you in the US?10:56
Bateau_oki10:56
hamourabiHappyFool, I'm in Lebanon.10:56
HappyFoolhamourabi: cos your mirrors are all us.archive.*10:56
HappyFoolhamourabi: in /etc/apt/sources.list, try changing us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com10:57
Bateau_apokryphos:  not apt-get install build-essential? but that gcc thingy?10:57
hamourabiokey10:57
HappyFoolhamourabi: you'll probably need to change at least 4 lines10:57
=== __filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has left #ubuntu ["Lmnar"]
apokryphosBateau_: doesn't matter for now10:57
apokryphosBateau_: gcc better10:57
Bateau_oki10:58
HappyFoolhamourabi: each of the ones starting with 'deb http://' -- the 'deb-src' lines should be commented out still (that is, should have '#' in front of them)10:58
hamourabiHappyFool, I will just change the hashed lines too ? :\10:58
Bateau_apokryphos: "gcc: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installable"10:58
HappyFoolhamourabi: if you like10:58
thellamausually when i install something with synaptic, i get my new app in the gnome applications menu, and i can add that to the panel, but i dont see opera in internet10:58
apokryphos:S10:58
hamourabiokey..10:58
Dr_Willisthellama,  if the package is from the official opera site. its possible they just dident follow the right procedure to make the icon automaticially show.10:59
hamourabiHappyFool, done and saved.10:59
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok, try 'reload' in synaptic again10:59
hamourabiI did :)11:00
=== terrex [n=terrex@84-122-80-108.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolis it working now?11:00
thellamaDr_Willis, ah so how can i do it11:00
thellamaoh11:00
thellama:/11:00
hamourabiHappyFool, dunno yet, still ..11:00
thellamashould i reboot?11:00
Unit134679Dr_Willis, i dont understand that GRUB Manual you gave me11:00
thellamaokey....11:00
HappyFoolthellama: if you want to edit the gnome menus, you can use smeg11:01
HappyFool!smeg11:01
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.11:01
=== eggo [n=eggo@206.130.143.246] has joined #ubuntu
thellamaah thanks11:01
eggohello11:01
=== auk is now known as WindowsDelete
thellamawhere could i find the opera icon though?11:01
apokryphosBateau_: I couldn't really say, tbh; I'd be clutching at straws. If no-one responds here, you can try the mailing list.11:01
HappyFoolthellama: not sure; try 'dpkg -L opera' and see what files it has11:01
thellamak thanks HappyFool11:02
Bateau_arg :(11:02
=== WindowsDelete is now known as auk
funkyHatthellama, if you use KDE, in lost and found, if you use gnome, install smeg and make a launcher in your menu for it11:02
thellamathanks guys! :)11:02
thellamaand gals ;)11:02
hamourabiHappyFool, Failed ...11:03
HappyFoolhamourabi: then you have some sort of networking problem11:04
=== theeil [n=neil@69.156.125.199] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiwelcome to lebanon :D11:04
HappyFoolhamourabi: can you browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com ? Do you have to enter a password to access the web?11:04
=== leonel [n=leonel@dsl-201-128-131-116.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabihold11:04
=== flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiHappyFool, Index of /11:05
hamourabiI'm in.11:05
theeilsound works in most apps, but not in sdl games (SDL_mixer)11:05
=== robertbb [n=robertbb@d154-20-136-58.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== huhmz [n=huhmz@h47n2fls33o888.telia.com] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolhamourabi: do you have some sort of password-protected web-proxy?11:05
flodinecan some help me update libc6 file11:05
Bateau_hmm, kinda weird... when i try to install gcc-3.3. it says i need cpp-3.3. so when i try tin install that, it says its allready installed... :x11:05
hamourabiI use the ISP proxy, 172.16.20.111:06
HappyFoolhamourabi: ah11:06
Bateau_i have cpp-3.3.. so why is gcc-3.3 making such a fus?11:06
=== misfit_toy [n=guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolhamourabi: do you have a username/password for that, or not?11:06
hamourabiwell, no, its intranet proxy ..11:06
HappyFoolok11:06
hamourabiif I removed this proxy so no more internet connection11:07
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok11:07
HappyFoolhamourabi: in synaptic, click on settings -> preferences11:07
=== mode/#ubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ
=== Carpe_Libertatem [n=esenthie@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolhamourabi: then go to the 'Network' tab, and enter your proxy details11:07
=== mode/#ubuntu [-strlinge *!*@85.96.76.140] by Seveas
=== mode/#ubuntu [+n] by ChanServ
=== ZurnaNet394 [n=cesim@pcp03617997pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
misfit_toyhamourabi, are you having trouble using apt-get behind a proxy?11:07
=== mode/#ubuntu [+t] by Seveas
=== mode/#ubuntu [+s] by Seveas
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.11:07
=== D1 [n=damian@pool-71-104-105-237.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ZurnaNet394 [n=cesim@pcp03617997pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
hamourabimisfit_toy,  yeah11:08
hamourabiHappyFool, fixed :D11:08
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok, try reload again?11:08
=== theeil [n=neil@69.156.125.199] has joined #ubuntu
=== dwq [n=doktor_m@81.212.13.229] has joined #ubuntu
D1does anyone know how to stop a module from loading at startup? eg my sis900 ethernet module11:08
hamourabiHappyFool, downloading worked :D11:08
=== dwq [n=doktor_m@81.212.13.229] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolhamourabi: eish. at last11:08
misfit_toyhamourabi, I had that issue at the office and had to use ntmltables from sourceforge, cool little program11:08
theeilhow do i fix SDL_mixer to work11:08
flodinecan someone help me get libc6 21 installed11:08
=== PCaaocipoo [n=mahioupk@222.124.20.90] has joined #ubuntu
=== lukus001 [n=lukus001@82-32-107-175.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFoolhamourabi: ok, once it's updated, you should be able to find xmms in the list11:08
=== PCaaocipoo [n=mahioupk@222.124.20.90] has left #ubuntu []
=== hacim [i=micah@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== umutlu [n=beatles@mngn-d9b9830f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== yekta_20 [n=ustegmen@194.17.16.250] has joined #ubuntu
lukus001I have a problem with my microphone, it's pluged in but it doesnt work... any driver need intalling or sominthg?11:09
=== umutlu [n=beatles@mngn-d9b9830f.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #ubuntu []
emilewhat tool can be used to configure wireless lans?11:09
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.11:09
=== yekta_20 [n=ustegmen@194.17.16.250] has left #ubuntu []
hacimhi, I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, but postfix is held back, reason:   postfix: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed11:09
=== reaff [n=reaff@216-55-142.0102.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu
reaffhi all11:09
=== halilcanUSA [n=guzin23@201.132.99.87] has joined #ubuntu
reaffwhats root password after install?11:09
=== eWHcFiJBo [n=aieicgli@86.104.125.17] has joined #ubuntu
Bateau_hmm, kinda weird... when i try to install gcc-3.3. it says i need cpp-3.3. so when i try tin install that, it says its allready installed... i have cpp-3.3.. so why is gcc-3.3 making such a fus? anyone? help please :/11:09
=== halilcanUSA [n=guzin23@201.132.99.87] has left #ubuntu []
HappyFoolD1: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:10
=== eWHcFiJBo [n=aieicgli@86.104.125.17] has left #ubuntu []
hacimreaff: there is none, use sudo11:10
=== djjason [n=johann@c-67-189-189-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFool!root11:10
ubotu[root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:10
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.11:10
emile!wifi11:10
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:10
=== Koceaih [n=eoeiihm@222.124.20.90] has joined #ubuntu
=== Koceaih [n=eoeiihm@222.124.20.90] has left #ubuntu []
=== ZurnaNet5827 [n=trbznaa@81.215.224.18] has joined #ubuntu
hacimanyone know why postfix depends on an upgrade to libc6?11:11
=== mode/#ubuntu [+r] by Seveas
HappyFoolhacim: is this a breezy dist-upgrade?11:11
=== h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.132.233] has joined #ubuntu
lukus001How do i get my microphone working pleawes ^^11:12
Bateau_is there a breezy repository list to?11:12
Carpe_Libertatem!styles11:12
ubotuCarpe_Libertatem: Are you on ritalin?11:12
Carpe_Libertatem!themes11:12
uboturumour has it, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com11:12
hamourabiHappyFool, no xmms in there :S11:12
misfit_toyhmm, I just remembered an issue I have on my ubuntu box at work...can't use CVS to grab E17, is the only answer to have the firewall open CVS ports?11:12
HappyFoolhamourabi: make sure you've added the 'universe' repository11:12
HappyFooloh, hango n11:13
hacimHappyFool: ah,  I figured it out, had a bad apt line11:13
=== hacim [i=micah@micha.hampshire.edu] has left #ubuntu []
reaffis tehre a way to get root oprative?11:13
HappyFoolhamourabi: sorry, xmms is in main11:13
HappyFoolreaff: yeah, but we don't recommend it11:13
reaffwhy?11:13
mjrhm, when do breezy preorders start?11:13
theeilhow to get sound to work in games that use SDL (cube, lsdldoom, wesnoth)?11:13
h17m4nok I got fglrx installed, but when I go to System>Preferences>Screen Res. I only get 3 resolutions, when I have 4 listed in the xorg.conf11:13
HappyFoolreaff: something like 'sudo passwd' should do it11:13
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== UbuntuN00b [n=1337_NOO@pcp08529581pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nhow do I change to that 4th resolution which is not shown?11:14
UbuntuN00bWHat's a good graphics program?11:14
UbuntuN00bTo use with linux11:14
HappyFoolreaff: i'm not really sure. it's an extra level of safety, i guess.11:14
thellamadpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg: smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however: Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-111:14
thellamagimp11:14
misfit_toyUbuntuN00b, gimp11:14
HappyFoolreaff: you can use sudo -s to get a 'root shell'11:14
=== chavo [n=chavo@131.sub-70-197-57.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu
UbuntuN00bYEah, figured.11:14
apokryphosubotu: tell thellama about smeg11:15
UbuntuN00bAnd another thing, how do I unpack a tgz?11:15
reaffHappyFool,  oki thnx11:15
=== lathropwells [n=lathropw@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Bateau_is there a breezy repository list to? where can i get it?11:15
=== tylerkn0x [i=n3bz0r@12-222-117-90.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== urbanfox|room is now known as urbanfox
HappyFoolBateau_: change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list11:15
Bateau_oh :P11:15
HappyFoolBateau_: that won't fix your gcc problem though ;)11:15
UbuntuN00bWhat's that command?11:15
HappyFoolBateau_: one way to solve your problem would be to just reinstall11:16
HappyFoolUbuntuN00b: tar xzf foo.tgz11:16
tylerkn0xhello11:16
Bateau_i know. but i dont want to do that :(11:16
thellamais ubotu a bot?11:16
theeiluBOTu11:16
HappyFoolBateau_: something has been installed which is getting in the way of gcc; it's hard to guess what it is remotely, though11:16
thellamaah heh11:17
flodinecan someone help me get libc611:17
flodineneed 2111:17
thellamai get this error on sudo dpkg -i11:17
thellamadpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:11:17
thellama smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:11:17
thellama  Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.11:17
=== detzli [n=heanol@c-1e23e253.271-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
detzliis breezy like unstable?11:17
HappyFoolthellama: easiest is probably to enable hoary-backports and install smeg from there11:17
thellamaenable hoary backports?11:18
HappyFool!backports11:18
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:18
urbanfoxhow hard is it to update a system to breezy?11:18
thellamaah thanks11:18
HappyFoolbreezy is not recommended for end-users11:18
=== styles` [i=styles@ool-43541646.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
urbanfoxcan I just add the breezy repositories, update, and dist-upgrade?11:18
urbanfoxHappyFool> I understand that... this is my secondary system11:19
urbanfoxmy main system (my laptop) is staying Hoary until release of Breezy11:19
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
lathropwellsHi - Eagerly adding my first ATI  All-In-Wonder card.  no success with enabling acceleration following the wiki binary driver howto fglrx isn't added to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  my system 386 kernel 9800 ati11:19
HappyFoolurbanfox: replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and away you go11:19
pirasthey11:19
urbanfoxHappyFool> thanks11:19
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.11:19
UbuntuN00bIs there anyway to use Macromedia Dreamweaver on Ub?11:19
pirasti try to get ubuntu-calender to work under breezy but it doesn't works. I can't select the "ubuntu-calender" background :-/ pls help me11:19
styles`ive tried installing ubuntu but run into a problem with grub, the installations automated process for grub doesnt configure it correctly, my question is how do i have grub boot my linux system manually11:19
lukus001can somone help me get my microphone working please?11:20
=== Rondom [n=andreas@mrbg-d9b95988.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiback sorry11:21
h17m4nlathropwells11:21
lathropwellsHi! :)11:21
h17m4nfollow thishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:21
misfit_toyhmm, I just remembered an issue I have on my ubuntu box at work...can't use CVS to grab E17, is the only answer to have the firewall open CVS ports? I get "connection refused" from sourceforge.11:21
UbuntuN00bWHy can't I move a file from my home directory to the bin directory in the usr folder?11:21
h17m4nhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=5&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:21
lathropwellsEXCELLENT! - many thanks. :)11:21
h17m4nI was having problems with that wiki11:21
urbanfoxshould I log out of X while I do this, HappyFool11:22
h17m4nand I got it done in 5 mins following that howto11:22
HappyFoolurbanfox: i don't know, i've never done it11:22
lathropwells!ubotu ati is also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:22
ubotuokay, lathropwells11:22
UbuntuN00bWHy can't I move a file from my home directory to the bin directory in the usr folder?11:22
HappyFoolurbanfox: i would guess it's not necessary; obviously you'll eventually need to reboot11:22
urbanfoxof course11:22
=== pnoman [n=baekgaar@port157.ds1-taa.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabiHappyFool, I got many xmms* ...11:24
=== crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu
=== reaff [n=reaff@216-55-142.0102.adsl.tele2.no] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
kspathdid you sudo ~/filename /usr/bin/filename  ?11:24
HappyFoolhamourabi: just plain 'xmms' should be fine11:24
thellamai need python-xdg for smeg but it doesn't show up in synaptic11:24
D1could anyone tell me how I'd add to to my apt sources list?11:24
thellama0.1411:24
D1http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/11:24
hamourabiI tried to mark as installed one of them.. but it say  Depends: xmms (>=1.2) but it is not installable11:25
kspathUbuntu: I misread your question11:25
D1I mean, the syntax11:25
hamourabiwhere in plain?11:25
hamourabidesktop you mean ?11:25
pirast!restricted11:25
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:25
=== urbanfox [n=urbanfox@68-118-240-62.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
kspathUbuntu: sudo ls -la /usr/bin/11:25
pirastups11:25
HappyFoolhamourabi: i mean simply 'xmms'11:26
kspathUbuntuN00b: sudo ls -la /usr/bin/ | less11:26
HappyFoolhamourabi: not 'xmms-alarm' or whatever11:26
HappyFoolhamourabi: have you enabled 'main' yet?11:26
=== fadrian [n=fadrian@ftp.ancar.org] has joined #ubuntu
kspathUbuntuN00b: do you need to be "in" the /usr/bin/ dir ?11:26
hamourabiHappyFool, dunno what you mean by main :(11:26
HappyFoolhamourabi: it's one of the repositories11:26
HappyFoolhamourabi: main, restricted, universe and multiverse11:27
HappyFoolhamourabi: read the repositories page on the wiki again, and make sure main is enabled11:27
kspathUbuntuN00b: did you sudo cp ~/filename /usr/bin/filename  ?11:27
HappyFoolhamourabi: i'm afraid i must be off to bed11:27
=== meeep [n=pontus@h27n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
HappyFooli hope someone else here will be able to help11:28
meeepif i want kubuntu on my ubuntu-os, do i have to re-install everything?11:28
kspathUbuntuN00b: make sure you are not overwriting something useful using ls11:28
=== HappyFool [n=user@tedo-ip-nas-1-p307.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["good]
=== HaRDaWaY [n=ubuntu@81.172.69.162] has joined #ubuntu
HaRDaWaYhello11:28
meeep!kubuntu11:29
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/11:29
=== seife [i=arturo_m@200.35.219.112] has joined #ubuntu
pnomanmeeep: No, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu. Just did it; works fine11:29
seifeBack on windows11:29
=== ffub [n=stephen@cpc3-bror3-4-0-cust141.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
seifeCould not get Network Working on Ubuntu11:29
HaRDaWaYone question, i have problems with my toshiba satellite m40-145 + ubuntu, acpi not runs, it make conflict with irq11, and if i have active acpi to up and down processor frecuency, network card not runs, anybody can help me please?11:30
meeeppnoman, do i have to restart ubuntu, how does it work? can i chose between gnome and kde or what?11:30
=== disasm [i=disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
fadrianHi folks.  I'm having problems with my sound.  Namely, there isn't any.  On boot I get the error message /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message: 'alsactl load_state:1326 No sound cards found...'. My system has an intel 815 chipset.11:30
pnomanmeep: No, just log out. Select KDE in session and log in again.11:30
pirastubotu tell fadrian about sound11:30
=== kafeine [n=kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu
h17m4nwhere are the xorg logs placed?11:30
meeepty pnoman11:31
pnomanmeeep: You can chose what should be your default, or if you just want to try it out. Good luck.11:31
hamourabihmmm11:32
RedGhostXMMS and MPLAYER crash for me whenever i load a file ? i have reinstalled many times11:32
ffubhi. i've installed the uplash program in breezy, but there doesn't seem to be any artwork installed11:32
RedGhostit gives no error, just freezes11:32
ffubsudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` gives me: Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...11:32
h17m4nhow can I view the xorg log files?11:32
MyrttiI'm rolling my eyes here11:33
MyrttiI use tar.bz2 to compress my ~/ every sunday night11:33
=== dreamie [n=dreams@adsl-10-222-141.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttiand I have really big suspicions that it really cannot pack data *that* tight11:34
ffubh17m4n: they're stored in /var/log as text files11:34
Myrttibut I guess I have to believe it now11:34
urbanfoxMyrtti: is all your data text and/or bunch of small files?11:34
Myrttinot all11:34
=== Unit134679 [n=unit1346@user-11201bc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttibut 1.2G --> 756M seems too good to be true11:34
urbanfoxI've got a lot of redundant data on my disk... so usually my 100G compresses to around 60 GB11:35
=== HaRDaWaY [n=ubuntu@81.172.69.162] has left #ubuntu []
urbanfoxnah, that sounds about right11:35
urbanfoxthe more data you have the better the compression ratio :)11:35
h17m4nthank you ffub11:35
Unit134679i need help with my GRUB. i cant install GRUB onto my MBR11:35
Unit134679or my previous MBR11:35
=== stoeptegel [n=stoepteg@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== dreamie [n=dreams@adsl-10-222-141.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu []
Myrttio.0 it really did pack it that tight11:38
Myrtti\o/11:38
stoeptegelwhen i move files on ext3 to another directory it takes ages, in ntfs i was used to get it done in a few secs. Is there something wrong with my setup?11:38
=== hamourabi [n=hamourab@62.84.67.170] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabihi11:39
=== bun2 [n=bun2@P-1.23.EUnet.yu] has joined #ubuntu
BubbleflyWhat can I use to crc check a file?11:40
nightswimcsv11:40
=== BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
hamourabii try to open vcd on Totem movie hi say There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat", you might need to install the corresponding plugins11:41
=== damneinstien [n=damneins@d53-64-168-214.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
BROKEN_LADDERis there any way to keep a directory on a second drive synced with some directory on my primary drive, so that my music files will always have a current backup without my having to periodically overwrite the entire directory with thousands of files, over-writing a lot of valid data?11:41
bun2I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio card, I have installed all codecs but when I play any sound file (mp3,wav ...) I get sound of 'damaged file'. How to fix this ?11:41
=== Seq [n=chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM0011ae907ae4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== GranMaestro [n=chatzill@adsl-ull-149-41.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu
damneinstienhello.. i need help with file sharing between ubuntu and winxp. i set up samba and i **thought** i properly configured it with the username and addition of home directory but in windows I can't access the share (it says that I dont have rights to access the share). even with another ubuntu box i cant access the share. i can ping to and from all my computers. any ideas?11:43
pnomanBROKEN_LADDER: Hm... not sure, but if it were on another machine, I'd look into rsync and rdiff.11:43
pnomandamneinstien: Did you smbpasswd -a username the users you want to log in? Just a thought...11:44
hamourabihello11:44
hamourabii need hellp11:44
=== pirast [n=pirast@p508B14D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu []
BlissexBROKEN_LADDER: yes.11:45
damneinstienpnoman: yes11:45
damneinstienpnoman: well, I added my ubuntu username and another password if thats what you mean11:45
bun2can somebody help me ?11:45
damneinstienbun2: what problem do you have?11:46
pnomandamneinstien: I meant, did you run the smbpasswd command to create the user properly?11:46
BlissexBROKEN_LADDER: as <pnoman>says, look at RSYNC.Samba.org and like  WWW.Rsnapshot.org11:46
=== Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-154-135-238.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
Blissexbun2: consider reading this: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...11:46
damneinstienpnoman: i run smbpasswd as root to add a unix name11:46
BlissexBubblefly: depends on the type of CRC.11:47
hamourabineed some help11:47
BlissexBubblefly: look at 'md5sum' or 'sha1sum'11:47
damneinstienpnoman: i run smbpasswd as root to add my unix username11:47
pnomandamneinstien: OK, then it must be something else. Did you nmap your external IP to see that Samba is indeed offering the share?11:47
Blissexhamourabi: consider reading this: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...11:47
damneinstienpnoman: how would i do that?11:47
bun2Blissex: yeah, I will but you are still not going to help me11:47
bun2this is help channel11:48
bun2but nobody can't help you here11:48
lsuactiafnerwhats bash to make input 308-200k.rm into 308-200k.avi in a script?11:48
=== FLD [n=FLD@a80-186-22-138.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
lsuactiafnerlike in a for i in do script11:48
Blissexhamourabi: as to using CODECs you probably need to find a shady site that offers RPMs of CODECs taken win MS Windows.11:48
FLDhey where was ati HOWTO11:48
=== ffub [n=stephen@cpc3-bror3-4-0-cust141.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu []
pnomandamneinstien: Just run "nmap x.y.z.z" being your external side IP (not 127.0.0.1). But if you can see the machine from somewhere else, it must be something else. Samba can be a bit tricky to setup. You edited the smb.conf files by hand or by swat?11:48
Blissexbun2: the problem is that most people here are not telepathic...11:48
=== seife [i=arturo_m@200.35.219.112] has left #ubuntu []
=== transparentdream [n=transpar@c-67-176-67-90.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
urbanfoxbun2: what do you need help with?11:49
damneinstienpnoman: should i run the nmap from another workstation?11:49
FLDhey where was ati HOWTO11:49
urbanfoxI'm waiting for an update and am in console on IRC I have nothing better to do at the moment11:49
FLDi cant find it11:49
urbanfoxbun2: I'll help if I can.11:49
pnomandamneinstien: You can do it locally as well. If you can from another PC, you should be able to see the samba server ports open.11:49
bun2urbanfox: I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio card, I have installed all codecs but when I play any sound file (mp3,wav ...) I get sound of 'damaged file'. How to fix this ?11:49
FLDfound it11:50
=== mpm2 [n=helio7@pool-71-102-145-6.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
transparentdreamCan someone help me with my ATI Radeon 9800 PRO?11:50
urbanfoxwhat do you mean by sound of 'damage file'?11:50
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, depends, what is wrong with it?11:50
damneinstienpnoman: shouldn't my router not accept ping requests?11:50
mpm2What Java Programming Environment do you (anyone listening) recommend on Ubuntu?11:50
urbanfoxmpm2: you can use Netbeans11:51
PlanarPlatypusmpm2, depends what you want from it, I personally use eclipse11:51
urbanfoxI don't know much about it though11:51
bun2urbanfox: sound of damaged file ... some 'fast forward' effect11:51
urbanfoxbun2: mhm... so the sound is still recognizable, just playing too fast?11:51
mpm2PlanarPlatypus: eclipse you compiled yourself?  it's not apt-get-able right?11:51
transparentdreamPlanarPlatypus, it doesn;t run like it should, I can't play games or run a screensaver with it11:51
=== Gnonthgol [n=knut@ti400720a081-11628.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== vrih [n=vrih@bowtell.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== thellama [n=llama@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
damneinstienpnoman: I get this response: Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-09-03 16:50 CDT11:52
damneinstienNote: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P011:52
damneinstienNmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 4.045 seconds11:52
damneinstien. I think its my router not accepting requests11:52
pnomandamneinstien: depends on your setup. Strategy for finding the problem is 1) ensure you can access the machine somehow, 2) that it has connection to the right port where samba is running, then 3) check if it gets proper data (ethereal), etc... I'd work from the bottom up.11:52
bun2urbanfox: yeah11:52
thellamaso i just installed enlightenment via synaptic, now what?11:52
urbanfoxbun2: is this system in question a laptop?11:52
seliniumSeveas: Are you about for a quick question?11:52
pnomandamneinstien: is that all you get from nmap?11:52
damneinstienpnoman: yes11:52
=== thellama is now known as llama
=== albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu
bun2urbanfox: no. PC11:52
=== llama is now known as thellama
urbanfoxhrm...11:53
PlanarPlatypusmpm2, I just got the download from the eclipse site, it is supposed to be apt-gettable in breezy though see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE?highlight=%28eclipse%2911:53
=== [hxcl] [n=gr3g@ip216-239-87-96.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
pnomanYou should get: Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-09-03 23:52 CEST11:53
pnomanInteresting ports on xxx :11:53
pnoman(The 1649 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)11:53
pnomanPORT     STATE SERVICE11:53
pnoman21/tcp   open  ftp11:53
pnoman22/tcp   open  ssh11:53
pnoman25/tcp   open  smtp11:53
pnoman80/tcp   open  http11:53
pnoman110/tcp  open  pop311:53
pnoman139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn11:53
pnoman etc...11:53
transparentdreamWhere can i get drivers for an ATI readon 9800 PRO?11:53
urbanfoxwell, I'd suggest you look through the wiki for your particular card... that's an odd issue indeed. Sounds like Linux is trying to send the audio to the card at either the wrong sampling rate or the internal clock is screwed up11:53
transparentdreamradeon*11:53
chrismy!lossless11:53
ubotuchrismy: I don't know11:53
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, I assume you are using the graphics accelleration11:53
urbanfoxbun2: sorry that I can't be any more helpful, that's a very odd issue indeed...11:53
chrismy!parse11:53
ubotuchrismy: Wish i knew11:53
[hxcl] is there something wrong with intel 845g chipsets and ubuntu? Ive tried everything, and i cant get my resolution out of 640 x 48011:53
Gnonthgolpnoman: no phasting11:54
thellamai just installed enlightenment via synaptic, now how do i log in using it?11:54
transparentdreamPlanarPlatypus, I'm not sure if i am or not, how do I ckeck?11:54
bun2urbanfox: ok. tnx anyway11:54
pnomanGnonthgol: Sorry, what is phasting? Mea culpa...11:54
urbanfoxtransparentdream: it should be under sessions in GDM11:54
thellamaurbanfox: it's not11:54
transparentdreamurbanfox, what? whats GDM?11:54
Gnonthgoltransparentdream: I am runing the same card just fine with my uguntu install11:54
urbanfoxoh. ew.11:54
disasmdamneinstien: can you ping the ip of your ubuntu box from another workstation?11:54
Gnonthgol*ubuntu11:55
D1hows breezy treating you guys?11:55
urbanfoxtransparentdream: the login screen, but apparently that doesn't do it.11:55
urbanfoxtransparentdream: I honestly don't know :(11:55
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, if you have not changed anything then you probably aren't11:55
FLDHEY how was the xorg reconf thing11:55
FLDdpkg-reconfigure xorg11:55
FLDhow was it11:55
transparentdreamGnonthgol, did you have to install and additional drivers? I can;t get it to wokr on screensavers or anything11:55
[hxcl] anyone? I cant get my resolution out of 640 x 480.. My video card is intel 845g..11:55
Gnonthgoltransparentdream: no aditional drivers11:56
thellamahow do i use enlightenment?11:56
FLDhow can i reconfigure xorg11:56
thellamait doesnt show up in sessions11:56
damneinstiendisasm: yea.. it seems that the netbios port is open (139, 445)11:56
[hxcl] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:56
transparentdreamhmmmm11:56
FLDthx11:56
=== erDiZz [n=erdizz@nat1-aci.icn.bmstu.ru] has joined #ubuntu
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, but the way you check is you look at what driver you use which is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for a section called "Device"11:57
transparentdreamok11:57
=== Will^Draven [i=1000@cpe-071-065-211-035.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
disasm[hxcl] : the res is set in your xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) if you look in there, it should have a list of resolutions it tries to use.11:57
[hxcl] yes11:58
[hxcl] i know11:58
[hxcl] doesnt work11:58
[hxcl] still stuck11:58
damneinstienpnoman: i get that 139 is open (netbios) and 445 is open (microsoft something) from another computer11:58
disasm[hxcl] : what happens if you manually change the res? no X at all?11:58
=== Nalioth_wrkn is now known as noirequus
[hxcl] nope11:58
=== sanitario [n=sanitari@c-c62970d5.02-61-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
thellamahow do i log in using enlightenment?11:58
[hxcl] i tried everything including modelines11:58
thellamaplease help!11:58
transparentdreamSection "Device"11:58
transparentdreamIdentifier"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 980011:58
disasmdamneinstien: if the ports open, then samba is running, can you authenticate from the localhost using mount -t smbfs or smbclient?11:59
funkyHatthellama, click on session under the login box11:59
apokryphosubotu: tell thellama about enlightenment11:59
thellamait doesnt show up funkyHat11:59
noirequusthellama: you have no optiom to log into enlightenment?11:59
Gnonthgoltransparentdream: "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 SE (RV350 AQ)" for me11:59
FLDwhat else do i have to do than: loadkeys fi-latin1 to get finnish keys11:59
thellamanope11:59
sanitariodoes anyone know what will be used as Network Magic in Breezy?11:59
=== fredforfaen [n=Morrari@216-132-216.0502.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu
FLDwhat was the keymap thing11:59
damneinstiendisasm: actually i found out what the problem is.. its firestarter not letting the other computer access ports...11:59
noirequusthellama: open a .desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions11:59
=== sigurdga [n=sigurd@139.80-203-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
thellamak11:59
apokryphosthellama: follow the instructions on that thread11:59
noirequusthellama: use that file as a template for your enlightenment sesssions entry12:00
pnomandamneinstien: you're good then. Network connections are OK then, so it must be something else.12:00
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, that is the right bit, there should be a section marked Driver12:00

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!