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[12:04] <Unit134679> hello everyone
[12:06] <LinuxJones> It's so quiet here right now.
[12:07] <Gnonthgol> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <funkyHat> cos everyone's computer is working :P
[12:07] <LinuxJones> heh
[12:07] <Gnonthgol> lol
[12:08] <Cody`> Can anyone help me with the apache package? I have it all setup except for mod rewrite. I've disabled all virtual hosting and set the documentroot to /var/www instead. When using mod_rewrite in userdirs(via mod_userdir) mod_rewrite doesn't work. Here is what error.log says [Fri Sep 02 17:53:54 2005]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  File does not exist: /var/www/home, referer: http://localhost/~cody/osdever/forum.php?page_id= as you can see, it looks i
[12:08] <Cody`> n /var/www/home instead :/
[12:09] <Cody`> any ideas?
[12:09] <Seveas> Cody`, put your .htaccess  or relevant section of config files on the pastebin
[12:10] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : damn ubuntu needs to pay you for all your help
[12:10] <lsuactiafner> i gave up and started to want to tell ppl rm -rf /
[12:10] <Seveas> they do by providing an excellent work/play environment :)
[12:10] <lsuactiafner> and DO NOT do that command ppl
[12:10] <mae> what is the correct font to use for ascii art?
[12:10] <Seveas> mae, freecourier oslt
[12:10] <Seveas> any fixed-width font will do
[12:11] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, that's called a support butn-out
[12:11] <Cody`> Seveas, one sec then
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : i'm going to find a quesion you dont have an answer for
[12:11] <Seveas> just stay away from this place a few weeks and rebuild energy :)
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> heh
[12:11] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, there are lots of those
[12:11] <Seveas> in fact, I don't know that much :)
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> yeh but i realsed i helped ppl instead of studying
[12:11] <Nalioth> lsuactiafner: when you're passing out the money, dont forget the rest of us how like to work/play in here
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> so i decided screw pcs.
[12:12] <kayfelix> funkyHat: did you get it sorted?
[12:12] <kayfelix> funkyHat: sorry, fell offline
[12:12] <mae> Seveas, well I tried using monospace but when I put it on instiki with <pre> It formats correct but you can tell some stuff still isn't lined up right.  Is there any other CSS settings you need to use for it to appear right in a web browser?
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> but the ppl in this channel that help so often should have a huge say in the development process
[12:12] <funkyHat> kayfelix, not yet :(
[12:12] <Cody`> Seveas, http://rafb.net/paste/results/3lEcvd59.html
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> they know best what ppl need
[12:13] <Cody`> I think there is a letter spacing thing in css
[12:13] <Cody`> look on w3schools.com
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> is there an xchat equivalent for exec -o yes that can be run in bitch?
[12:13] <Cody`> then set it to like 2px
[12:13] <Seveas> mae, <pre> should do it if the website author didn't do funky things
[12:14] <Seveas> Cody`, I see no mod_rewrite stuff in there
[12:14] <Cody`> not if he doesn't have a monospaced font set for the site
[12:14] <Cody`> Seveas: RewriteEngine On is set in rewrite.conf
[12:14] <Cody`> forgot to paste
[12:14] <Cody`> that's all that's enabled
[12:14] <Seveas> Cody`, not having a monospaced font for <pre> is what I meant with funky things ;)
[12:14] <Cody`> and I enable it in my .htaccess as a precaution
[12:14] <kayfelix> funkyHat: you there?
[12:14] <funkyHat> yep
[12:15] <Seveas> Cody`, and what is your RewriteBase and your RewriteRules?
[12:15] <Cody`> I'll paste
[12:15] <Cody`> http://rafb.net/paste/results/OGSWox89.html
[12:15] <funkyHat> kayfelix, yes, i'm here
[12:16] <Cody`> for some reason it keeps looking in /var/www/home though :/
[12:16] <Cody`> Seveas, That exact .htaccess worked on my freebsd server before the harddrive went out, along with two other servers...
[12:16] <Seveas> Cody`, you're missing a RewriteBase
[12:17] <Cody`> 0.o never had to use before
[12:17] <Cody`> hmm
[12:17] <Seveas> what's the location on disk of these files?
[12:17] <kayfelix> funkyHat: I researched it, maybe you can do it by selecting "SCSI" as a boot option - but tbh it looks fishy
[12:17] <kayfelix> funkyHat: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22boot+from+pci+ide%22&btnG=Suche&meta=
[12:17] <Seveas> and what's the location on disk of your .htaccess?
[12:17] <Cody`> they are located in /home/cody/public_html/osdever
[12:17] <Cody`> and .htaccess is in that dir as well
[12:17] <funkyHat> kayfelix, thanks :) i'll give it a go
[12:17] <kayfelix> funkyHat: apparantly most ide cards have problems booting from atapi devices... :(
[12:18] <funkyHat> gah
[12:18] <Seveas> and you want to make it available as http://yourserver/~cody/forums
[12:18] <Seveas> ?
[12:18] <linuxboy> what is in the multiverse repo?
[12:18] <Cody`> Seveas, it's already available
[12:18] <Cody`> mod rewrite doesn't play with mod_userdir correctly
[12:18] <funkyHat> do you think i'll be able to have the PCI controller and the onboard controller working at the same time?
[12:18] <Cody`> when you use mod_rewrite in the userdirs it checks for the files in /var/www/home
[12:18] <Cody`> as indicated by the error log
[12:18] <Cody`> because it will give you a 404
[12:18] <funkyHat> or, i could probably do it with a boot floppy....
[12:18] <Seveas> Cody`, rigghht
[12:19] <Seveas> use RewriteBase /~cody/
[12:19] <funkyHat> why didn't i think of _that_ before
[12:19] <kayfelix> funkyHat: Im no expert at this - possibly yes but its not a bios-standard I dont think - so I doubt you'd be able to boot of the pci ide
[12:19] <Seveas> I'm using a similar setup with rewritebase and it works fine for me
[12:19] <Cody`> I'll try
[12:19] <kayfelix> funkyHat: boot floppy or boot usb...
[12:20] <Cody`> that doesn't fix the problem
[12:20] <Cody`> :/
[12:21] <Cody`> meh got it
[12:21] <Seveas> what is it?
[12:22] <Cody`> but what's the reason it requires RewriteBase in ubuntu and it didn't on apache 2.0.54 compiled from source on freebsd, and apache 2.0.54 on suse
[12:22] <Cody`> nor does it need it on osdever.net 0.o
[12:22] <Seveas> no idea, I alwas use RewriteBase :)
[12:22] <Cody`> I made a typo in RewriteBase when I said it didn't work aboce
[12:22] <Cody`> above*
[12:23] <Cody`> well ty
[12:23] <funkyHat> are PS-2 keyboards hot-pluggable?
[12:23] <mik3> usually
[12:24] <mik3> i think
[12:24] <funkyHat> cool
[12:24] <mik3> i donno i guess
[12:24] <Seveas> usually not
[12:24] <funkyHat> just wondered as PS-2 mice aren't
[12:24] <anomaly> no, not usually
[12:24] <kayfelix> funkyHat: just dont burn yourself ;)
[12:24] <mik3> i never had a need to randomly pull keyboards out
[12:24] <Seveas> ps2 is a non-hotpluggable interface
[12:24] <funkyHat> i'm setting up a server box that i don't want to have a keyboard in most of the time
[12:24] <mik3> i think if you boot the box with a keyboard, unplug the keyboard, and plug it back in you will be ok
[12:24] <funkyHat> i'll be using ssh to control it
[12:24] <mik3> lets find out
[12:24] <funkyHat> but if ssh breaks ;)
[12:25] <linuxboy> what is in the multiverse repo?
[12:25] <kayfelix> linuxboy: not entirely sure, just lots of packages i _think_
[12:25] <Nalioth> funkyHat: set the bios to not stop on errors (like keyboard and video missing)
[12:26] <funkyHat> yeah i'm going to do that ;)
[12:26] <linuxboy> kayfelix: i think you are talking universe
[12:26] <kayfelix> linuxboy: im not sure what im talking about to be honest - just know it exists
[12:26] <linuxboy> :)
[12:26] <kayfelix> Nalioth: you can do that? no more "press F3 to continue"?
[12:27] <linuxboy> thanx for trying :)
[12:27] <Nalioth> kayfelix: yes you can
[12:27] <kayfelix> Nalioth: ace, i thought that was hard coded bios stuff
[12:28] <Nalioth> kayfelix: you can tell it to boot up w/o stopping (this setting is for headless servers)
[12:28] <funkyHat> yeah i've got that set on my old server
[12:29] <kayfelix> funky
[12:29] <funkyHat> (_old_ as in, won't accept a 100Mbit network card ;))
[12:29] <funkyHat> which is why i'm setting this one up
[12:30] <qt2> does ubuntu have some sort of remote desktop software that comes preinstalled?
[12:30] <funkyHat> qt2, it has a client preinstalled
[12:30] <Seveas> and a vnc server
[12:30] <kayfelix> vnc
[12:30] <funkyHat> oh yeah, i forgot that was preinstalled
[12:30] <qt2> funkyHat, err, how do i access it?
[12:31] <funkyHat> applications > internet > terminal server client
[12:31] <qt2> is that only for terminal, or x as well?
[12:31] <jatos> hi
[12:32] <Seveas> qt2, the client: applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[12:32] <Seveas> the server: system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[12:33] <kayfelix> Seveas: where would that be in kubuntu?
[12:33] <Seveas> kayfelix, ENOCLUE
[12:33] <wrtpeeps> where is my source list for apt stored?
[12:34] <hussam> in general, if I want to compile a program, how do I specify compiler optimization flags?
[12:34] <kayfelix> Seveas:  enoclue?
[12:34] <funkyHat> :S!:S
[12:34] <Seveas> ENOCLUE means that I have no clue about it
[12:34] <thrush> wrtpeeps, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:34] <kayfelix> Seveas:  thought it did ;)
[12:34] <funkyHat> 'This device is disabled because the BIOS forthe device did not give it an IRQ (Interrupt Request). (Code 29.)
[12:35] <funkyHat> '
[12:35] <wrtpeeps> thanks
[12:35] <thrush> wrtpeeps, np
[12:35] <funkyHat> (that's the PCI IDE controller)
[12:35] <kayfelix> funkyHat: sounds un-funky
[12:36] <kayfelix> funkyHat: can you set IRQ by hand maybe?
[12:36] <funkyHat> yep
[12:36] <funkyHat> are there any i shouldn't use?
[12:36] <kayfelix> funkyHat: no idea, sorry
[12:36] <funkyHat> ok
[12:36] <funkyHat> anyone else know? i know i shouldn't use 11, as that's network
[12:37] <kayfelix> funkyHat: get wise ... use google ...
[12:38] <kayfelix> funkyHat: I think thats all the advice ur gonna get anyway :p
[12:38] <funkyHat> i am trying, it's not coming up with anything useful for me :P
[12:39] <Paradoxx> hola
[12:39] <alexubuntu> hi
[12:39] <kayfelix> hola
[12:42] <alexubuntu> 
[12:44] <Paradoxx> what RSS reader would you all recommend?
[12:44] <jatos> feedreader @ p
[12:44] <jatos> *paradoxx
[12:45] <Paradoxx> jatos whats so good about it?
[12:45] <Nalioth> Paradoxx: i use liferea
[12:45] <jdub> GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!
[12:45] <Nalioth> Paradoxx: theres a buttload of rss/atom readers avail at sourceforge
[12:45] <jdub> you guys heard about the BadgerBadgerBadgerTour yet?
[12:45] <jdub> http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/ubuntu/1125687160
[12:45] <ompaul> jdub, self promoting :)
[12:45] <jdub> ^ DING-DING-DING!
[12:46] <ompaul> jdub, come to Dublin, I'll even buy you a pint
[12:46] <meuserj|work> jdub, as jimmydean already told you.. you should come to Indy.
[12:46] <pedro_> hey someone with breezy and x font server?
[12:46] <jdub> meuserj|work: you guys got a petition goign? :)
[12:46] <cafuego> pedro_: does breezy with a debian sarge font server count?
[12:46] <Seveas> hi jdub :)
[12:46] <Paradoxx> Nalioth: yea i kno..but generally speaking there are a bag of s/w for anything at sourceforge, and i just want to see wat every1 is useing, so i have a better chance of getting somthing feature filler and that i'll like
[12:47] <jdub> ompaul: unfortunately, dublin is a bit out of the way :)
[12:47] <Parisi> Just tried the new windows vista beta 1
[12:47] <jdub> hey Seveas
[12:47] <Parisi> Crappy
[12:47] <Seveas> great that you come to NL and want to talk :)
[12:47] <pedro_> cafuego, ermm no
[12:47] <ompaul> jdub, :)
[12:47] <jdub> Seveas: gave you level 29 access, going to have to talk to the feenode admins about level 30 :)
[12:47] <Seq> does anybody know if there is a way to have xchat wait until after it has authenticated with nickserv to join channels?
[12:47] <meuserj|work> jdub, not yet.. jimmydean and I are going to cinlug on wednesday.. so we might see if they would like to start a petition.
[12:47] <Seveas> jdub, thnx for that!
[12:47] <ompaul> jdub, but from London it is 45 mins in a plane
[12:47] <Nalioth> Paradoxx: well give feedreader and liferea a run
[12:48] <Parisi> What Ircd does freenode use anyways?
[12:48] <jdub> meuserj|work: rock!
[12:48] <jdub> Parisi: their own
[12:48] <Paradoxx> feedreader is W$ s/w though
[12:48] <Parisi> From scratch? or based on something else?
[12:48] <jdub> was once based on hybrid, then called dancer
[12:48] <Paradoxx> >.<
[12:48] <Parisi> Ah
[12:48] <Seveas> Parisi, now called hyperion
[12:49] <Parisi> I was never really a big fan of Hybrid..
[12:49] <Parisi> Well, didnt really get a chance to use it rather.
[12:49] <Devrethman> anybody know a good, relatively cheap hardware SATA RAID controller?
[12:49] <cafuego> Devrethman: cheap ones aren't good.
[12:49] <Seveas> hear hear :)
[12:49] <Devrethman> relatively
[12:49] <jdub> Devrethman: avoid hardware raid, do it right in software :)
[12:49] <Devrethman> well, software doesn't work
[12:49] <Parisi> I might go back to the days of running my own Irc network just for fun.
[12:49] <cafuego> Devrethman: If you could choose between good OR cheap, which would it be?
[12:50] <Devrethman> good
[12:50] <cafuego> Devrethman: Then it's going to cost you .. ;-)
[12:50] <Paradoxx> Parisi: neat, what s/w did you use to do so?
[12:50] <cafuego> Devrethman: Seiously though, I think the 3ware sata raid cards aren RELATIVELY cheap and RELATIVELY good.
[12:50] <Devrethman> so there's no like... semi affordable way to do raid that works?
[12:50] <ompaul> Devrethman, some 'hardware raid' systems are little more than software badly implemented, do what jdub said save the bother
[12:50] <Nalioth> Paradoxx: i dont know a bunch of em, i've used yarssr, rawdog and now liferea
[12:51] <cafuego> Devrethman: I find software raid1 to work fine on most low-end boxen
[12:51] <Parisi> Paradoxx i believe it was Shadow ircd or something the one we used mainly, i forget the services..
[12:51] <Seveas> Nalioth, tried blam! already?
[12:51] <Devrethman> the partitioner always crashes on me
[12:51] <Devrethman> when i try to configure it
[12:51] <Parisi> Paradoxx it's been a while :0
[12:51] <cafuego> Devrethman: You should be able get somehting for under US$1000
[12:51] <Parisi> Paradoxx do you have any experience with it?
[12:51] <Paradoxx> Nalioth: ty, i'll check thouse out
[12:52] <Devrethman> cafuego: under $150 would be better....
[12:52] <cafuego> Devrethman: No way you get hw raid for that.
[12:52] <Paradoxx> Parisi: nope... just that i might b intrested in runnin a irc server with a few friends of mine in the future
[12:52] <Paradoxx> so was just asking you experience
[12:52] <Seveas> Devrethman, then go software raid
[12:52] <h17m4n> quick question: when you do the "make" "make install" commands for ndiswrapper, is it compiled to run on your architecture(amd64,ppc)?
[12:52] <Devrethman> seveas: i would love to, but it doesn't work
[12:53] <cafuego> h17m4n: Yes, so you will ALSO need WiNDOWS drivers for that arch.
[12:53] <Gnonthgol> !ndiswrapper
[12:53] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:53] <cafuego> h17m4n: So ppc would be useless, as is amd64 in most cases.
[12:53] <Paradoxx> lol noo more java...
[12:53] <h17m4n> I'm ndis right now
[12:53] <Paradoxx> lol
[12:53] <Devrethman> the liveCD install hangs on "scanning disks" immediately after i configure software raid
[12:53] <Parisi> Paradoxx I have run a small network on my own for a little while, we had a couple of home and private linux/bsd servers runnings and linked all together, we had anywhere from 100 to 200 people on it..
[12:53] <Paradoxx> right now, i'm useing eclipse and azureus, and they are killing resources..
[12:53] <Paradoxx> lol
[12:53] <Paradoxx> Parisi: nice...
[12:54] <cafuego> Devrethman: Let me tweak that minimum price down to around $500 US
[12:54] <Parisi> It was fun and interesting to see how it all worked together.
[12:54] <h17m4n> and I used 32-bit drivers.... hmmm guess I'll have to redo all the steps and install the 64 bit ones
[12:54] <Parisi> Freenode runs the same exact way.
[12:54] <cafuego> h17m4n: if there are 64bit ones
[12:54] <h17m4n> I have them
[12:54] <Parisi> I'v always wanted to know how IRC networks worked in general so that was my way in
[12:54] <h17m4n> sitting in my homefolder
[12:55] <Paradoxx> yea, same here...
[12:55] <Paradoxx> though i haven't gotten around to it yet
[12:55] <Devrethman> cafuego: ok, forget that, do does anybody know how to make it work??
[12:55] <Parisi> Running and configuring on was tricky but fun for the most part.
[12:55] <h17m4n> is there an easier way to upgrade drivers instead of having to uninstall ndiswrapper and doing it all over again?
[12:55] <Paradoxx> might b a little difficult atm, as i have college apps to do in the next follow months
[12:56] <Paradoxx> i'm thinkin about doing a bootable CD profile of myself to send to colleges
[12:56] <Paradoxx> might use DSL (Damn small linux)
[12:57] <ompaul> Paradoxx, but they will not look at it as it might have a virus :)
[12:57] <pepsi> is the system monitor applet misworded? "16% in use of which 11% is cache".. does that mean 11% of whats in use is cache or 11% of the whole memory is being used as cache?
[12:57] <cafuego> as an application? they'll not be able to use them, as the tech department disabled cd booting.
[12:57] <Paradoxx> that should b fun, but i defenetly wanna do the IRC thing...
[12:57] <h17m4n> hmmm bootable profile
[12:57] <h17m4n> I dunno about that
[12:57] <Parisi> Ya, i would like ot get back into myself if theres time.
[12:57] <Paradoxx> ompaul: lol, i should pput a sticker that says No Windows included
[12:57] <Paradoxx> lol
[12:57] <h17m4n> I dont think they will want to restart the PC just to look at a profile
[12:58] <Paradoxx> h17m4n: y you say that m8?
[12:58] <h17m4n> cos picture it
[12:58] <h17m4n> the person looking at your profile
[12:58] <Paradoxx> well, thats tru
[12:58] <h17m4n> has his/her pc on
[12:58] <h17m4n> they probably will skip looking at it
[12:59] <h17m4n> where are you going to college though?
[12:59] <h17m4n> what country?
[12:59] <cafuego> They came in to work, started their PC< waited 10 minutes for Outlook to load, then they do NOT want to reboot. They probably 1) cannot even enter their bios to boot off cd and 2) wouldn't know how to.
[12:59] <Paradoxx> well, i wanted to go to college in the UK, but thats not looking probably atm...
[12:59] <Paradoxx> >.<
[12:59] <Paradoxx> so probably the US, i'm from Jamaica by the way
[12:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ahh
[12:59] <h17m4n> cool
[12:59] <cafuego> You're assuming a level of technological literacy that's just unrelaistic.
[12:59] <h17m4n> kingston?
[01:00] <Paradoxx> yep
[01:00] <Paradoxx> yea, i guess..
[01:00] <Parisi> Jamaica, ah
[01:00] <h17m4n> one of hs friends was from kingston
[01:00] <Paradoxx> i'll probably just do a power point document or somthing
[01:00] <ompaul> Paradoxx, do a PDF
[01:01] <cafuego> Paradoxx: You COULD do a pdf (they'll be fine) or web site structure on CD (You could include Firefox)
[01:01] <Paradoxx> was gonna build a java app for it, but haven't done java in a while so...
[01:01] <Paradoxx> ompaul, i might want to put videos in it or somthin
[01:01] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, google S5
[01:01] <h17m4n> why not build a website and give them the url?
[01:01] <cafuego> h17m4n: They'll make typos.
[01:01] <ompaul> Paradoxx, a little over the top, unless you want to teach multi media stuff is it not?
[01:01] <Parisi> What type of hardware you all run around here with Ubuntu, just kinda curious? I have a P4 1.7 with 256 ram myself.
[01:02] <Parisi> And i find it "acceptable"
[01:02] <Paradoxx> Parisi:  i probably have the best machine here
[01:02] <pepsi> 1MHz 8080 with 32k ram
[01:02] <Parisi> Its nor fast or slow either
[01:02] <cafuego> Parisi: A Mac Mini 1.4GHz with 512MB and an AMD64 1.8GHz with 1GB
[01:02] <h17m4n> Gateway 7405GX(laptop) Mobile A64 3200+, 512MB, 80GB
[01:02] <Paradoxx> p3 500 mhz 256 mb
[01:02] <farruinn> is there a mythtv howto for ubuntu?  I ran apt-get install mythtv and it downloaded the necessary packages and told me that I would have to log into an X session as the mythtv user
[01:02] <Parisi> I am currently shopping for a powerbook 1.33 soon..
[01:02] <funkyHat> lmao @ Paradoxx
[01:02] <farruinn> it didn't however tell me what I should use for a password, so I don't know how to do this
[01:02] <Parisi> The p3 aint that bad really.
[01:03] <ompaul> amd1900 with 256  - amd 2400 with 512 (64 shared for video) and some monster my father in law owns
[01:03] <lakcaj> farruinn, sudo passwd mythtv
[01:03] <cafuego> Parisi: Keep in mind the airport extreme won't work under Linux.
[01:03] <yonkeltron> GOOD SHABBOS!!!
[01:03] <Paradoxx> nope
[01:03] <Paradoxx> its keeping up
[01:03] <h17m4n> cafuego: which feels faster, the ppc or amd64?
[01:03] <Paradoxx> but its the java apps i use day to day, that are killin it
[01:03] <Parisi> Paradoxx I have used an old Dell p233 for the longest time this ealier this year ;0
[01:03] <Paradoxx> i really need to up my memory
[01:03] <cafuego> h17m4n: the amd64
[01:03] <Parisi> cafuego i wouldnt dare run Linux on it either way :9
[01:03] <h17m4n> ohh
[01:04] <Parisi> I am shopping for the pb4 for OSX
[01:04] <h17m4n> I thought the ppc had a faster performance per clock
[01:04] <cafuego> Parisi: Ah nice - I have a 12" iBook with OSX, very neet. Just make sure you max the ram.
[01:04] <Paradoxx> h17m4n: i would think so
[01:04] <Parisi> I wouldnt consider apples without OSX really
[01:04] <cafuego> h17m4n: then ia32, sure.
[01:04] <farruinn> Parisi: macs you mean, they don't make the apple anymore
[01:05] <Parisi> cafuego agreed, i had a pb4 12'' 1.33 with 768 ram previously, it was fast but not too fast.
[01:05] <Paradoxx> next year i'm lookin to hopefully buy a notebook
[01:05] <bloodnik> Hai where can I get fonts?
[01:05] <Paradoxx> going all out, i wanna but a PM, hopefully the 64bit versions of them will b out
[01:05] <Parisi> Apple as the company, thats what i meant sorry.
[01:05] <cafuego> bloodnik: www.chankfont.com
[01:05] <bloodnik> ty
[01:05] <Paradoxx> i dunno, for some reason i prefer them to the AMD mobile offerings
[01:05] <farruinn> Parisi: sorry, just a pet peeve of mine :)
[01:05] <bloodnik> do true type fonts work?
[01:05] <Paradoxx> turion isn't ready yet IMO
[01:05] <cafuego> bloodnik: also try google for more font sites. Download the files, put the .ttf files in ~/.fonts
[01:05] <Paradoxx> but it is good
[01:06] <bloodnik> ah
[01:06] <farruinn> bloodnik: you can do 'apt-cache search ttf' for font packages
[01:06] <bloodnik> I didn't realise Linux used ttf
[01:06] <bloodnik> That's sexy.
[01:06] <Nalioth> bloodnik: any truetype fonts will do
[01:06] <bloodnik> Mint.
[01:06] <bloodnik> thanks
[01:06] <bloodnik> see you all when I next fug up
[01:06] <cafuego> Paradoxx: I'm not sure they'll ever geta round to G5 powerbooks, of if they'll go directly to P4-M powerbooks...
[01:06] <UbuntuN00b> HI. ANyone here?
[01:06] <UbuntuN00b> I need some help.
[01:07] <mik3> ...
[01:07] <h17m4n> hmmm why won't my pc open Synaptic... I click on it and it doesnt open
[01:07] <cafuego> and apple open type fonts work fine too
[01:07] <UbuntuN00b> Is there anyway to insall a .rpm file on Ubuntu?
[01:07] <mik3> hah
[01:07] <mik3> good question
[01:07] <cafuego> UbuntuN00b: using 'alien'. 'alien foo.rpm', that created foo.deb.
[01:07] <Gnonthgol> UbuntuN00b: use alien
[01:07] <cafuego> UbuntuN00b: then 'dpkg -i foo.deb' - this MAY not work, depending on the rpm.
[01:07] <Paradoxx> Ubuntunoob what they said
[01:08] <cafuego> UbuntuN00b: Ideally, try to find a .deb of the software.
[01:08] <Gnonthgol> !alien
[01:08] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:08] <UbuntuN00b> ANy of you guys on AIM? I might need a walkthrough.
[01:08] <UbuntuN00b> I suck. lol.
[01:08] <Zhukov_> Hi there
[01:09] <cafuego> if you get stuck, just ask here.
[01:09] <cafuego> There are always 20 people and 500 bots ready to help.
[01:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> UbuntuN00b: What is in RPM that you can't get from the repos?
[01:09] <Zhukov_> Seveas, how are you? Sorry about the other day, i was no identified, so i was unable to send you msgs :S Can you let me acess the java packages now please?
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b> Limewire.
[01:09] <mik3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:09] <mik3> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:10] <h17m4n> isnt that default?
[01:10] <ompaul> I note that we are down by a hundred or two since the famous bot wars of last weekedn
[01:10] <Gnonthgol> !limewire
[01:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[01:10] <mik3> i run apt-get update and i get this......
[01:10] <cafuego> Zhukov_: The ones in the repository were fixed, check wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:10] <Carpe_Libertatem> UbuntuN00b: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[01:10] <Carpe_Libertatem> err
[01:10] <h17m4n> how do I make the "Back button" work on my mouse?
[01:10] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'm slow. :-P
[01:10] <h17m4n> I could only r/l click and scroll
[01:11] <Parisi> bbl
[01:11] <mik3> i think my apt-get is broked =/
[01:11] <ompaul> h17m4n, right click does not offer you back?
[01:11] <reiki> in alsamixer (in terminal) after tabbing to mic control, how do I raise the level?
[01:11] <Zhukov_> cafuego, Seveas has a newer version
[01:12] <protokol420> hellp all
[01:12] <h17m4n> yeah.... but I have an extra button(thumb) which is not being used
[01:12] <cafuego> !find mach_mpspec.h
[01:13] <Paradoxx> h17m4n:  you have a M$ intelli mouse?
[01:13] <h17m4n> logitech cordless
[01:13] <Paradoxx> as i'm experienceing the same problem with the mouse i have
[01:13] <Paradoxx> !microsoft
[01:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Paradoxx
[01:14] <Paradoxx> !windows
[01:14] <ubotu> methinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[01:14] <kvidell> WiNE is Not an Emulator.
[01:14] <Carpe_Libertatem> !alternative
[01:14] <ubotu> it has been said that alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[01:14] <Paradoxx> kvidell: y you say that?
[01:14] <kvidell> because it isn't?
[01:14] <Paradoxx> what is it?
[01:14] <kvidell> It provides linux with the APIs necessary to run windows software.
[01:15] <kvidell> Wine stands for "Wine is not an emulator"
[01:15] <kvidell> check the site :-P
[01:15] <h17m4n> will it let me run games like sof2?
[01:15] <Zhukov_> h17m4n, you better use cedega for that
[01:15] <Paradoxx> lakcaj hey m8, have you used S5 b4?
[01:16] <Zhukov_> Seveas, are you there?
[01:16] <h17m4n> kool
[01:16] <kvidell> maybe.. I've heard success stories and horror stories pertaining to Wine and gaming. As Zhukov_ said, may want to stick with Cedega.
[01:16] <h17m4n> I will try that later
[01:16] <Seveas> Zhukov_, ?
[01:16] <Paradoxx> lakcaj: ??
[01:16] <mik3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:16] <mik3> why do i get so many of those on an apt-get update?
[01:16] <Paradoxx> !S5
[01:16] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:17] <Zhukov_> although i must say...suddenly my steam stopped working under cedega :S
[01:17] <Seveas> mik3, paste the *complet* output of apt-get update on the pastebin
[01:17] <meuserj|work> mik3, you should only get that the first time... do it a second time and it shouldn't give you the errors.
[01:17] <mik3> it does it repeatedly
[01:17] <Paradoxx> has any1 here used S5 b4?
[01:17] <meuserj|work> mik3, then you have problems
[01:17] <mik3> how helpful
[01:17] <kvidell> lol
[01:17] <Carpe_Libertatem> !xen
[01:17] <ubotu> Carpe_Libertatem: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:17] <meuserj|work> mik3, as Seveas said.. paste the whole output in pastebin
[01:18] <Ganoosh> hey all
[01:18] <benkong2> when booting I get an error cannot map device eth0 successfully and eth0 does not get a dhcp ip address. What can I do? breezy CD3
[01:18] <Demon_stroke> hey guyz i got a que
[01:18] <Ganoosh> if i install in expert mode, will it ask me what partition to install on?
[01:19] <Demon_stroke> Can i partition my drive straight from ubuntue os?
[01:19] <Paradoxx> !lifrea
[01:19] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Not a clue
[01:19] <kayfelix> Demon_stroke: yup
[01:19] <benkong2> !device mapper
[01:19] <ubotu> benkong2: Are you on ritalin?
[01:19] <kayfelix> ubuntu installation anyway
[01:19] <Gnonthgol> Ganoosh: yes, just like in normal mode
[01:20] <Ganoosh> oh ok good cuz i heard it automatically repartition the whole drive
[01:20] <Demon_stroke> ok kewl
[01:20] <meuserj|work> Ganoosh, only if you tell it to
[01:20] <kayfelix> Ganoosh: you dont HAVE to partition at all
[01:20] <kayfelix> you can do that with your favorite tool
[01:21] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1840
[01:21] <Ganoosh> can I select an unused partition on my drive in the install and it will put all necessary partitions on that one
[01:21] <kayfelix> in the setup you can choose to do what needs to be done
[01:21] <Ganoosh> like main, boot, swap
[01:21] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1840 <-------any suggestions
[01:21] <kayfelix> yeah just chose the unpartition space, mount as root, "/", it will make an Ext3 out of it and then choose some other space and make the Swap
[01:22] <Ganoosh> k cool sounds good
[01:22] <kayfelix> mik3: check your sources.list
[01:22] <Gnonthgol> kayfelix: you dont need the root partision to be Ext3
[01:22] <kayfelix> Gnonthgol: just saying thats what it made for me...
[01:22] <mik3> kayfelix : i did, i have a few commented out ones that i added, but they are commented
[01:23] <Seveas> mik3, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:23] <Seveas> (will give an error about partial - that's ok)
[01:23] <Seveas> then: sudo apt-get update
[01:23] <mik3> mindstorm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[01:23] <mik3> oh ok
[01:23] <mik3> thanks
[01:23] <tear> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  See `config.log' for more details.
[01:23] <tear> hmm not what I had hoped for
[01:23] <Seveas> tear, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:23] <meuserj|work> tear, apt-get install build-essential
[01:24] <Seveas> what are you compiling?
[01:24] <Demon_stroke> hey how do i install totme
[01:24] <Demon_stroke> totem*
[01:25] <Seveas> it's installed by default...
[01:25] <mik3> Seveas you're my hero, marry me.
[01:25] <benkong2> ping Seveas
[01:25] <Seveas> mik3, sorry, I'm engaged already :)
[01:25] <Seveas> pong benkong2
[01:25] <Demon_stroke> welll just generally, i dont know how to install anything
[01:25] <benkong2> when booting I get an error cannot map device eth0 successfully and eth0 does not get a dhcp ip address. What can I do? breezy CD3
[01:25] <tear> thx
[01:25] <kayfelix> apt-get install aptname
[01:25] <mik3> Demon_stroke : apt get install totem
[01:25] <mik3> Demon_stroke : apt-get install totem
[01:25] <Seveas> Demon_stroke, system -> administration -> package manager
[01:25] <cafuego> !tell tear -about compiling
[01:25] <Seveas> search for something and hit the install button :)
[01:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> !mount
[01:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> !windowsdrives
[01:26] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[01:26] <Demon_stroke> ic
[01:26] <Seveas> benkong2, rip the mapping stuff out of /etc/network/interfaces
[01:26] <mik3> hey my 30 ubuntu cd's finally came
[01:26] <benkong2> Seveas; thanks
[01:26] <Demon_stroke> also
[01:27] <mik3> good thing i took the initiative and downloaded it via dialup
[01:27] <benkong2> can I change the interrupt of a nic it is being picked up as a usb port?
[01:27] <Demon_stroke> i cant playback any movies, im missin some codecs for wmv so and such
[01:27] <Demon_stroke> were can i dl them
[01:27] <cafuego> !codecs
[01:27] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:27] <Seveas> !tell Demon_stroke about hoary-extras
[01:28] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: the more modern microshaft video codecs wont play no matter what
[01:28] <Gnonthgol> mik3: lets see how long you will run out of cds
[01:28] <fredforfaen> yo
[01:28] <FoulPlay> Hello everyone
[01:28] <Gnonthgol> joa
[01:29] <Demon_stroke> Seveas tell me again i accidently closed it,
[01:29] <fredforfaen> whats up
[01:29] <Seveas> !tell Demon_stroke about hoary-extras
[01:30] <cafuego> fredforfaen: sky or ceiling
[01:30] <Seveas> stars or sun (depending on where you are)
[01:30] <cafuego> Seveas: couds?
[01:30] <cafuego> +l
[01:31] <Nalioth> cafuego: sky? don't you mean "the big blue room"?
[01:31] <Seveas> possibly
[01:31] <fredforfaen> hehe
[01:31] <cafuego> Nalioth: get back into your straightjacket!
[01:31] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: I think it will be stars for him
[01:31] <fredforfaen> guess a J , is up......gonna roll me a phat one , brb
[01:31] <Demon_stroke> hey do i dl the packages.gz
[01:31] <cafuego> Demon_stroke: No, you run 'apt-get update'
[01:31] <Seveas> apt-get does that for you
[01:31] <Nalioth> cafuego: it doesnt fit anymore (losing weight, and slipped right out the bottom)
[01:32] <FoulPlay> Can X-Chat run commands on startup like mIRC can?
[01:32] <cafuego> Nalioth: into the bag of kittens and into the river with you then ;-)
[01:32] <FoulPlay> like to register, join channel ,etc
[01:32] <Demon_stroke> my comp in there isnt running the internet
[01:32] <Nalioth> FoulPlay: yes it can
[01:32] <Seveas> FoulPlay, look at the topic for registration
[01:32] <soson_> Hiho
[01:32] <Nalioth> cafuego: thought that was a "bag of rats"
[01:32] <Seveas> and simply set auto-join channels in the server connection dialog
[01:32] <cafuego> Demon_stroke: Then 'apt-zip' and 'apt-move' might be what you need. Manually fetching Packages.gz isn't going to do you much good.
[01:33] <hussam> I can't seem to access ubuntuforums.org. Can somebody be nice enough to check for me it is offline or not?
[01:33] <Seveas> it's off
[01:33] <FoulPlay> Seveas, I've already registered with the server.
[01:33] <kvidell> it's off?
[01:34] <Seveas> FoulPlay, i meant for identification :)
[01:34] <cafuego> it probably runs phpbb2 and probably has bugs
[01:34] <Seveas> *g*
[01:34] <Seveas> phpbb is the crappiest forum ever
[01:35] <Nalioth> got a sep2 breezy daily i'm fixin to inflict on my G5 imac
[01:35] <Demon_stroke> too many holes in phpbb2
[01:35] <cafuego> Nalioth: I'll go and sacrifice a goat
[01:36] <FoulPlay> Seveas, please excuse my ignorance. But what exactly am I looking for in the Topic?
[01:36] <auk> cafuego: don;t do that. that's nto fair to the poor goat.
[01:36] <Nalioth> cafuego: so far so good, it didnt kernel panic when i put it in osx
[01:36] <cafuego> auk: hey, free dinner
[01:36] <shinu> if im trying to get kernel source, should i download them from kernel.org?
[01:36] <mik3> Seveas : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1841
[01:36] <Nalioth> shinu: use the ubuntu kernel source(s)
[01:37] <shinu> Nalioth: from apt-get?
[01:37] <Ganoosh> what would you recommend, KDE, GNOME or something else?
[01:37] <cafuego> hmm, fresh espresso
[01:37] <Nalioth> shinu: use synaptic, it's easier
[01:37] <mik3> hmm, fresh moonshine.
[01:37] <tear> how come i can't "make"
[01:37] <Nalioth> Ganoosh: there are over a dozen desktop manglers, choose the one YOU like
[01:37] <shinu> Nalioth: i never use synaptic...
[01:38] <cafuego> Ganoosh: it's probably best to run the one you like, not what others say you should like.
[01:38] <mik3> synaptec is for the devil!
[01:38] <Nalioth> Ganoosh: also you can use kde apps:gnome apps:x-apps in other DMs
[01:38] <cafuego> Ganoosh: That said, I like Gnome :-)
[01:38] <Nalioth> shinu: then yes, apt will show them to you
[01:38] <Nalioth> cafuego: my fan isnt running 90mph
[01:38] <Ganoosh> how is GNOME, it looks really good, very customizable?
[01:38] <mik3> as in eye candy?
[01:39] <Ganoosh> yeah
[01:39] <Nalioth> Ganoosh: ALL of linux is customizable
[01:39] <mik3> gnome, just like kde, has a lot of different themes
[01:39] <shinu> Nalioth: got it, thanks! somehow i didnt notice the source but only the image files before :P
[01:39] <mik3> it's all about preference, just install ubuntu base, play with gnome for a bit, then try kde
[01:39] <Nalioth> shinu: always better to use ubuntu stuff b4 you go elsewhere
[01:40] <tear> 2 problems,  (1) I can't open madlib gz file (2) I can't "make"
[01:41] <mik3> why can't you make?
[01:41] <Nalioth> tear: download it again
[01:41] <Ganoosh> i'll be back in a bit probably see ya
[01:41] <Nalioth> awful lot of red screens on this breezy thing.. ..
[01:41] <shinu> Nalioth: one more thing. my uname -r gives 2.6.10-5-386. the source for 2.6.10 is the right on isnt it? there is no source for 2.6.10-5 right?
[01:41] <capncrunk> my users-admin utility just tells me "The entered password is invalid," never asked for one. even a "sudo users-admin" does the same thing. 5.04
[01:42] <tear> Nalioth, tried 7 times
[01:42] <Nalioth> shinu: not sure
[01:42] <cafuego> Nalioth: Yeah, than fan spin-up thing was REALLY weird.
[01:42] <Nalioth> tear: then it seems to be a bad archive for everyone, or try another mirror
[01:42] <cafuego> Nalioth: It does the same when you flash any bits of firmware it may have (like bluetooth or airport)
[01:43] <tear> tried form 7 difrent
[01:43] <cafuego> shinu: 2.6.10-34 is the source for 2.6.10-5-XXX
[01:43] <Nalioth> cafuego: what does the same?
[01:43] <shinu> Nalioth: well.. thats the only thing i can see in apt-get... ill just get that :P
[01:43] <tear> [/bin/sh: tar: command not found]  <-- but only with madlib
[01:43] <cafuego> Nalioth: When I tried Ubuntu on the g5 imac, it hung with the fan reaching take-off speed. I recent did a firmare update on that imac, which made the fan go to take-off speed as well.
[01:44] <shinu> cafuego: 2.6.10-34? why the -34?
[01:44] <mik3> any suggestions to my little problem: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1841
[01:44] <cafuego> shinu: revision 34
[01:44] <Nalioth> cafuego: the fan runs continuously for any linux (nobody has figgered out the software-fan combo yet)
[01:44] <cafuego> !info linux-source-2.6.10
[01:44] <Nalioth> cafuego: PM
[01:44] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.10: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-34 (hoary), Packaged size: 36633 kB, Installed size: 36756 kB
[01:45] <shinu> cafuego: alright thanks
[01:46] <Demon_stroke> ok can some1 just gimme the direct download link to the codecs needed to play video/audio (note im on my xp right now so i will burn them)
[01:47] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: www.mplayerhq.hu  see "downloads"
[01:48] <UbuntuN00b> How do I install Java?
[01:48] <UbuntuN00b> I'm at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[01:48] <UbuntuN00b> trying to follow the instructions on that page.
[01:48] <UbuntuN00b> for java
[01:48] <mik3> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:48] <Seveas> !java
[01:48] <ubotu> I heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:48] <Seveas> mik3, again?
[01:48] <mik3> save me Seveas
[01:48] <mik3> yeah
[01:48] <Demon_stroke> oooo they got skins too
[01:49] <Seveas> odd
[01:49] <UbuntuN00b> !java
[01:49] <mik3> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1841
[01:49] <Seveas> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:49] <capncrunk> tried re-installing gnome-system-tools, but still no go
[01:49] <Demon_stroke> hey anyonegot a kewl techy lookin skin?
[01:49] <UbuntuN00b> What do I do?
[01:49] <Seveas> and apt-get update
[01:49] <eFFay> is there any "easy" way to burn bin/cue-files in ubuntu?
[01:49] <soson> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[01:49] <Seveas> it's odd that it happens though
[01:49] <UbuntuN00b> I typed that.
[01:49] <mik3> Seveas : again?
[01:49] <UbuntuN00b> NOthing happens.
[01:49] <UbuntuN00b> says invaled package
[01:49] <Seveas> mik3, yeah, that's the only thing to solve this
[01:49] <mik3> oh ok
[01:49] <Seveas> UbuntuN00b, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:49] <eFFay> any recommendations on what program i should use?
[01:50] <Seveas> mik3, did you interrupt apt-get update before this happened?
[01:50] <capncrunk> my users-admin utility just tells me "The entered password is invalid," never asked for one. even a "sudo users-admin" does the same thing. 5.04.. cant find a config file
[01:50] <mik3> i told my box you were going to come over and kick it in the face, it just laughed. =(
[01:50] <benkong2> cat/proc/interrupts shows 21: 25531 IO-APCI-Level ohci_hcd:usb2, eth0 I think my eth0 is assigned to the wrong interrupt. I disabled the mapping stuff in /etc/network/interfaces any other thoughts?
[01:50] <Seveas> hehe
[01:50] <mik3> no
[01:50] <UbuntuN00b> Seveas it wont let me
[01:50] <Seveas> UbuntuN00b, msg me a username and password and it will :)
[01:50] <Demon_stroke> is it possible to download additional ubuntu themes
[01:51] <Seveas> !themes
[01:51] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[01:51] <meuserj|work> eFFay, I don't know if it is the easiest way but I do: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx cuefile=whatever.cue
[01:51] <tear> how come it won't allow me to use "make" command?
[01:51] <Demon_stroke> :D
[01:51] <mik3> i was trying to add a repository site with the instructions on the scribus web page for updating to scribus 1.3, and that's when it started giving me problems. so i just commented out the sites i added
[01:51] <mik3> maybe i should delete them completely?
[01:52] <Seveas> mik3, no...
[01:52] <Seveas> commented out has the same effect
[01:52] <Pickle_Weasel> i installed the DVD codec, now what can i use as a palyer? Totem won't work =\
[01:52] <capncrunk> anyone got any ideas?
[01:52] <meuserj|work> Pickle_Weasel, apt-get install totem-xine
[01:52] <meuserj|work> then totem will work
[01:52] <benkong2> Seveas; cat/proc/interrupts shows 21: 25531 IO-APCI-Level ohci_hcd:usb2, eth0 I think my eth0 is assigned to the wrong interrupt. I disabled the mapping stuff in /etc/network/interfaces any other thoughts?
[01:52] <mik3> k
[01:52] <Seveas> benkong2, not really, sorry
[01:52] <Pickle_Weasel> ty ^.^
[01:53] <benkong2> ok
[01:53] <benkong2> thanks
[01:53] <meuserj|work> Pickle_Weasel, np
[01:54] <JKnife> when i try building E17 it says it cant find X11... i didnt have this problem on Slackware, or Archlinux
[01:54] <Seveas> JKnife, install xlibs-dev
[01:55] <Seveas> or better: apt-get build-dep enlightenment
[01:55] <Seveas> that installs all build dependencies
[01:55] <JKnife> k
[01:55] <Seveas> there also are packages for e17 on ubuntu.nooms.de
[01:56] <JKnife> i dont like using other peoples E17 pkgs... they tend to not like my setup
[01:56] <Seveas> :)
[01:57] <Nalioth> hooray
[01:57] <Demon_stroke> why cant i download from gnome art...........
[01:57] <Nalioth> !!!
[01:57] <ubotu> ! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:57] <soson> Someone here program games on Linux?
[01:57] <soson> :P
[01:57] <Seveas> ubotu, you broken
[01:57] <ubotu> Eep! *crash*
[01:57] <JKnife> soson, no i only build games for windows :-P
[01:58] <mik3> doing repository updates on aol dialup sucks
[01:58] <Demon_stroke> wuts a splash screen?
[01:58] <mik3> =D
[01:58] <tear> could someone link me to a madlibor other codex pack?
[01:59] <Nalioth> mik3: doing anything on ANY dialup sucks
[01:59] <Zhukov_> Demon_stroke, instead of all the letters while booting up an image is displayed
[01:59] <Demon_stroke> o kewl
[01:59] <mik3> yeah
[01:59] <Demon_stroke> man i cant find the linux pengiun stuff anywere
[02:00] <Demon_stroke> hmm
[02:01] <Demon_stroke> im confused again
[02:01] <mik3> same error again damnit
[02:01] <mik3> THAT'S IT, I'M GETTING THE HAMEMR
[02:01] <mik3> hamemr
[02:01] <mik3> hammer
[02:01] <mik3> jesus
[02:01] <mik3> and a dictionary
[02:01] <Demon_stroke> wen i go to download splash screen it just shows again, do i have to DL it from linux?
[02:01] <Seveas> mik3, cool down :)
[02:02] <[DF2] > has anyone experience installing blowfish or could point me in the right direction.. maybe a webpage.. nfo ??
[02:02] <mik3> yeah i don't really need to install alian but i'm bored
[02:03] <Zhukov_> hey guys, anyone wants to help me troubleshot my last problem with the laptop?
[02:03] <Seveas> Zhukov_, what's it?
[02:04] <Zhukov_> The sd card reader! :D It is displayed at lspci --> 0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
[02:04] <Zhukov_>  but when i plug a card, nothing happens
[02:04] <mik3> what do you need blowfish for, an eggy?
[02:04] <JKnife> brb
[02:05] <Seveas> Zhukov_, sdcard readers that are built in notoriously have no drivers
[02:05] <imfuedsfalic> when starting a program that requires a password the program never starts even with the correct password
[02:05] <Seveas> try googling for your laptop model
[02:05] <meuserj|work> holy crap.. the new breezy usplash screen is awesome!
[02:05] <Seveas> if it's an hp compaq nc 6000 it's guaranteed not to work
[02:05] <Zhukov_> Seveas, kinda hard...custom build :D
[02:05] <s00d> Hi. I'm a linux/networking newbie. I was wondering if the Red Hat Network Manager was going to be ported into Ubuntu anytime soon? Or if it was easy to compile on ubuntu?
[02:06] <Seveas> s00d, it's planned to be the default in the version for april 2006
[02:06] <mik3> uh
[02:06] <mik3> holy crap.
[02:06] <s00d> Aha. Darn. :-p
[02:06] <Seveas> it will likely be available in the october 2005 version too
[02:06] <Nalioth> s00d: no need to compile, it's all in the repos
[02:06] <s00d> It is?
[02:06] <Seveas> Nalioth, it is already? nice1
[02:06] <s00d> I can't seem to find it. I have all the repos enabled.
[02:06] <Nalioth> s00d: sorry, i misunderstood
[02:06] <s00d> Oh. :-(
[02:06] <Nalioth> Seveas: calm down, i misunderstood
[02:06] <mik3> 99% [10 Packages bzip2 0]  [15 Packages gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers] 
[02:07] <s00d> So it might pop up on the repos in about a month?
[02:07] <Seveas> s00d, probably you still run Ubuntu 5.04/hoary. There will never be networkmanager for that version
[02:07] <[DF2] > i started the internet connection with pppoeconf.. is there another way connect? and once connected how do i disconnect.. and kill any pppoe processes that might still be running???
[02:07] <mik3> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[02:07] <mik3> Err http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org experimental/main Packages
[02:07] <mik3>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:07] <s00d> Really? Oh.
[02:07] <Seveas> mik3, throw out AOL, somehow they are mangling your downloads
[02:07] <s00d> Is ther any other utility that might let me easily do WPA?
[02:08] <Seveas> s00d, networkmanager does not easily do WPA
[02:08] <Seveas> at least not the version I once tried
[02:08] <s00d> Oh, right.
[02:09] <s00d> So, still stuffed re: wpa?
[02:09] <Seveas> s00d, yeah, wpa is a bitch, install wpasupplicant and hack up a configfile
[02:09] <cafuego> it's about a s useless as wep, so i wouldn't unduly worry about it
[02:09] <Seveas> cafuego, WPA is much more secure
[02:09] <Nalioth> mik3: what are you calling them?
[02:09] <cafuego> just leave the AP open and run a vpn on top
[02:10] <JKnife> are there US Mirrors???? im getting ~50kB/sec
[02:10] <Nalioth> mik3: and don't be too vulgar here
[02:10] <Seveas> anyhow, mv /proc/self /dev/bed
[02:10] <Seveas> cya all!
[02:10] <Nalioth> JKnife: yes there are
[02:10] <Zhukov_> Hasta Seveas
[02:10] <JKnife> where?
[02:10] <mik3> Nalioth : names that would cause lilo to akill me from this network if i repeated.
[02:11] <tear> is the "make" command difrent in ubuntu?
[02:11] <s00d> I'm way too scared to try and tangle with wpasupplicant ;-(
[02:11] <cafuego> tear: No. What are you trying to compile?
[02:11] <mik3> lol Seveas
[02:11] <mik3> dork
[02:11] <mik3> gnight
[02:11] <Nalioth> mik3: you mean you are not using words with them that would melt the phone lines immediately? tsk tsk
[02:11] <JKnife> Nalioth, are they already in sources.list?
[02:11] <levander> Anybody know if lmbench is in the repositories somewhere and I'm just missing it?
[02:11] <tear> cafuego: anything, it just returns that no makefile is present
[02:12] <cafuego> tear: And, is there one?
[02:12] <JKnife> or where can i get a list or URI?
[02:12] <cafuego> !find lmbench
[02:12] <levander> Find hard to believe it's not in there, anandtech uses it for their benchmarks, and the software is GPL'd
[02:12] <tear> yea, the ./configure part works perfectly. I get the make files, but somehow it won't use them
[02:12] <Nalioth> JKnife: when you open your sources.list, put us. in front of ubuntu.blah.blah
[02:12] <mik3> aol is fast on linux, just crappy tun device
[02:12] <s00d> meuserj|work: where is the splash screen posted?
[02:12] <cafuego> tear: Which software specifically?
[02:13] <cafuego> tear: ie: are you compiling something you shouldn't be compiling to begin with?
[02:13] <tear> cafuego: right now I'm on VLC
[02:13] <levander> cafuego: uboto was supposed to respond to that command?
[02:13] <worthawholebean> Hi!
[02:13] <worthawholebean> I have an Epson Stylus Color 740. I haven't installed any extra drivers or anything. I have selected the Gimp-Print driver. However, when I try to print something, Ubuntu says it is printing and then finishes but nothing happens with the Printer. It's connected via USB to my Mac.
[02:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'lmbench' returned no results.
[02:13] <JKnife> ok
[02:13] <cafuego> levander: Yes.
[02:13] <meuserj|work> s00d, I don't know if it is... I just rebooted breezy for the first time in a while and saw it.
[02:13] <levander> cafuego: guess it just took a while
[02:14] <cafuego> levander: SO it's not in main/resctricted/universe/multiverse.
[02:14] <s00d> Oh, right.
[02:14] <worthawholebean> Can anyone help me? Thanks.
[02:14] <cafuego> tear: vlc is precompiled and in Ubuntu.
[02:14] <cafuego> !info vlc
[02:14] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[02:14] <cafuego> tear: Enable the 'universe' repository.
[02:15] <Kromonos> kromonos@KromLap:~$ eject /dev/dvd
[02:15] <Kromonos> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[02:15] <Kromonos> What does this error mean?
[02:15] <Nalioth> worthawholebean: we've seen your question. if anyone knows, they'll answer
[02:15] <worthawholebean> Thank you.
[02:15] <s00d> Not wanting to start a flame war or anything. I really like GNOME, but my system struggles a little with it. Is KDE noticeably leaner at all?
[02:15] <tear> cafuego: excuse my lack of knollage but how
[02:15] <Nalioth> worthawholebean: you might check the forums or hit the mailing lists
[02:15] <cafuego> !repos
[02:15] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:16] <worthawholebean> I posted on the forums.
[02:16] <Nalioth> s00d: use xfce4 or enlightenment
[02:16] <cafuego> tear: Visit the url ubotu just posted
[02:18] <Seveas> s00d, KDE is MUCH heavier than gnome
[02:18] <mik3> go to bed Mr.
[02:18] <Seveas> xfce is lighter, try that one
[02:18] <levander> What would be the most popular benchmark under Linux?
[02:18] <Seveas> mik3, i'm waiting for some downloads to finish
[02:18] <mik3> oh
[02:18] <cafuego> levander: benchmarks are useless
[02:18] <mik3> the story of my life
[02:18] <mik3> =>
[02:19] <s00d> Oh, right. Thanks for telling me before I tried switching, seveas. :-)
[02:19] <Seveas> cafuego, neh, they keep tweakers happy, so they have some use :)
[02:19] <cafuego> levander: A cpu bench would be a kernel compile (useless as the kernel might be configured differently) and a disk one bonnie++.
[02:19] <cafuego> Seveas: Oh, right.
[02:19] <mik3> ok i give up on apt-get updates
[02:19] <cafuego> levander: Gentoo is a Linux benchmark.
[02:19] <levander> cafuego: you've got to have some place to start, benchmarks better than most
[02:19] <Seveas> levander, there are lies, evil lies and statistics/benchmarks
[02:19] <cafuego> Mind you, it benches the linux USER, not the system.
[02:20] <cafuego> levander: the the cpu_mhz number in /proc/cpuinfo is higher, the system is probably faster.
[02:20] <LinuxDolt> cafuego: haha
[02:20] <levander> cafuego: thanks for the tip, but that won't help much with what i'm working on
[02:21] <t0mmy> openoffice 1.1.3 freezes on a right click
[02:21] <t0mmy> i tried reinstalling and it didn't help
[02:21] <t0mmy> any ideas?
[02:21] <cafuego> are you comparing a ppc to an intel box?
[02:21] <mcphail> Have been having some trouble installing Colony 3 (and other udev using distros) on a USB hard disk. Has anyone else had problems?
[02:21] <levander> cafuego: no
[02:21] <Zhukov_> does colony 3 supports ipw2100?
[02:22] <UbuntuN00b> How do I extract a Tar, I forget. :(
[02:22] <Seveas> Zhukov_, it should
[02:22] <cafuego> UbuntuN00b: tar x foo.tar
[02:22] <Seveas> UbuntuN00b, tar -xf filename.tar
[02:22] <cafuego> right, f
[02:22] <t0mmy> >_>
[02:22] <UbuntuN00b> What do the x and the f stand for anyway? :-p
[02:22] <mik3> xtra fruity!
[02:22] <cafuego> eXtract File
[02:22] <karma_> Hello! What's the minimal requestions for hardware running web-server (apache+php+mysql) with 30-40 simultaneously connections
[02:23] <cafuego> see 'man tar' for additional clarification.
[02:23] <UbuntuN00b> Um What if it's a tar.gz
[02:23] <worthawholebean> The wiki printer requirements table says this: Needs cupsys-driver-gimpprint from universe.
[02:23] <UbuntuN00b> is that the same?
[02:23] <Seveas> UbuntuN00b, tar zxv filename.tar.gz
[02:23] <JKnife> AHH its slower on the us servers
[02:23] <mik3> karma_ : depends on what the users are going to be doing
[02:23] <cafuego> karma_: Pentium 166 with 64Mb ram (if you want to be running php on it too) otherwise 32Mb will pobably do.
[02:23] <cafuego> Seveas: xfz
[02:23] <Seveas> cafuego, zxf
[02:23] <Seveas> the f must come last :)
[02:24] <JKnife> tar -xvzf foo.tar.bz2
[02:24] <LinuxDolt> okay...  i went and installed the standalone flash player from Macromedia on a x86_64, forcing the architecture.  it is complaining about the following: gflashplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:24] <worthawholebean> xzvf
[02:24] <JKnife> tar -xvjf foo.tar.bz2*
[02:24] <cafuego> Seveas: no, it doesn't. Feel free to check.
[02:24] <JKnife> tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz
[02:24] <karma_> mik3: hehe, forum, chat and other low-traffic stuff
[02:24] <Seveas> cafuego, hmm...
[02:24] <worthawholebean> tar -xvf foo.tar
[02:24] <mcphail> Seveas: i think some versions of tar need 'f' last
[02:24] <Nalioth> LinuxDolt: that's what happens when you 1) use non ubuntu stuff, and 2) force things
[02:24] <Seveas> mcphail, yeah, at least the solaris version does
[02:25] <JKnife> -j = bz2, -z = gz, -x = extract, -v=verbose, -f=file
[02:25] <cafuego> LinuxDolt: 32bit chroot
[02:25] <LinuxDolt> Nalioth: pfft, wine forced just fine ;)
[02:25] <mik3> karma_ : i'd say throw it on at least a pII 350/128mb
[02:25] <Nalioth> LinuxDolt: chrooting the stuff into a 32bit environment doest work?
[02:25] <cafuego> LinuxDolt: yes, I *know* it's *supposed* tow rok, but 32bit chroot.
[02:25] <worthawholebean> With my printer, if it says "Needs cupsys-driver-gimpprint from universe." in the Wiki HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters, does that mean I need to install something before I can set up my printer?
[02:25] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[02:25] <LinuxDolt> how do i make a 32bit chroot in ubuntu?
[02:25] <Seveas> so you need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[02:25] <cafuego> tear: Pick a different mirror.
[02:26] <LinuxDolt> !chroot
[02:26] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:26] <cafuego> tear: and please don't paste stuff to me in msg)
[02:26] <tear> cafuego: roger!
[02:26] <mik3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:27] <x33x> hey all. running irc on lynx, how can I close a window?
[02:27] <mcphail> Can anyone help me with udev and the boot process?
[02:28] <x33x> running irc from the shell on ubuntu i meant, not lynx... blah, i'm a little off, sorry
[02:28] <JKnife> is Dev-Cpp for linux in the rap?
[02:28] <Nalioth> x33x: what client?
[02:29] <x33x> just typed irc
[02:29] <mik3> j33x: /exit
[02:29] <LinuxDolt> JKnife: i dunno, but Code::Blocks is
[02:29] <mik3> oh a window?
[02:29] <mik3> hmm irssi.
[02:29] <x33x> ;) mik3
[02:29] <mik3> ./help win
[02:29] <mik3> Seveas : i have narrowed my problems down to something with gzip
[02:30] <Seveas> mik3, gzip is fine, the downloads somehow get mangled
[02:30] <mik3> no way beaves
[02:30] <mik3> look...
[02:30] <mik3> well
[02:30] <mik3> all the errors i get are about gzip
[02:31] <mik3> i just went to upgrade gzip and it failed
[02:31] <mik3> someone hax0red my gzip
[02:31] <mik3> and replaced it with chimpanzees
[02:31] <Seveas> yeah, gzip is responsible for unpacking your downloads
[02:31] <mik3> oh
[02:31] <mik3> =<
[02:31] <LinuxDolt> JKnife: if you are interested in Code::Blocks, it is available here: http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php/Compiling_Code::Blocks_in_Linux_%28applies_to_all_distros%29
[02:31] <JKnife> k
[02:32] <malvo1> So does Shuttleworth ever hang out in here?
[02:32] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, what's Code::Blocks?
[02:32] <rob^> malvo1, yes
[02:32] <Seveas> malvo1, not too often
[02:33] <malvo1> He's a linux stud
[02:33] <JKnife> Seveas, its a IDE
[02:33] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: a C++ IDE made in wxWidgets with a helpful set of additional wxWidgets templates
[02:33] <cafuego> malvo1: that would explain it, they all hang out in #gentoo.
[02:33] <Seveas> eek wxwidgests....
[02:34] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: don't like wx?
[02:34] <wasabi> I don't suppose anybody knows hwo to make NFS work without reverse DNS?
[02:34] <cafuego> wasabi: /etc/hosts
[02:34] <JKnife> i want to get into Evas and edje...
[02:34] <malvo1> i used to use gentoo, then I realized that compiling everything is impractical in a work environment
[02:35] <wasabi> cafuego: without that too.
[02:35] <wasabi> I would really just like to disable the requirement in NFS.
[02:35] <x33x> back in graph ;)
[02:35] <LinuxDolt> how can you not have /etc/hosts...
[02:35] <JKnife> malvo1, ive used gentoo before but compiling everything a a AMD K6-2/333mHz didnt seem worthit
[02:36] <cafuego> wasabi: use IPs and nost hostnames? Don't run it through the tcp wrappers?
[02:36] <wasabi> It's not thru TCP wrappers.
[02:36] <wasabi> Okay, here's the thing. I have two boxes. They are both on non static public IPs. The IPs will change in teh future. They are doing ddns for forward dns.
[02:36] <wasabi> I have a static route between them so they go over the lan.
[02:37] <wasabi> mount: kyoto:/shares failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[02:37] <wasabi> So the server is actively denying it. I have not enabled tcp wrappers.
[02:38] <LinuxDolt> Seveas LinuxDolt, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 || Seveas so you need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 || so... exactly what does this mean?  i have libstdc++ 6.x and glibc2.x, but they are at higher versions
[02:39] <johntramp> hey I have just installed ubuntu and cant get it off 640x480 resolution
[02:39] <wasabi> For some reason I had thought it was DNS... I am trying to figure out why I thought that now.
[02:39] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, install that package
[02:39] <Seveas>  libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[02:39] <johntramp> in xorg.conf it has Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" yet still will only use 640x480
[02:39] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: i don't see it in synaptic :/
[02:39] <cafuego> LinuxDolt: They're also amd64 versions, not ia32 ones.
[02:39] <johntramp> the pc has an intel graphics card,  are there some drivers I need to install to get it going ?
[02:40] <wasabi> Okay, yeah. The error from the server Sep  2 19:39:17 kyoto-ls-net mountd[7638] : mount request from unknown host x.x.140.66 for /shares (/shares)
[02:40] <malvo1> try removing 640x480
[02:40] <SUPEROGT> Hi, anyone know where can i get doc about Gnoppix ?
[02:40] <JKnife> google
[02:40] <cafuego> wasabi: it's using an IP that's not listed in exports then.
[02:41] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, it's in universe
[02:41] <johntramp> malvo1, oh yea, when I did that it wouldnt start gdm
[02:41] <Seveas>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[02:41] <wasabi> Ahh hah!
[02:41] <wasabi> That was it. Hah. Stupid me.
[02:41] <malvo1> Seveas: Hmmm, I am not sure then
[02:41] <SUPEROGT> Someone else ? i looked at Google, that's the reason cause i'm asking
[02:41] <wasabi> I'm sorry for asking that. =(
[02:42] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: blargh.  there is something clearly wrong with my repo sources...  except there ISN'T X.X
[02:42] <cafuego> wasabi: Youi also want to make sure those boxes are nicely firewalled from the outside world.
[02:42] <wasabi> cafuego: yeah, got that covered.
[02:42] <wasabi> So, on another topic... is there any super cool routing protocol I can install on these two public boxes so they will realize they are on local LAN and set up static routes?
[02:42] <wasabi> Without me having to deal with it.
[02:42] <SUPEROGT> so any help about Gnoppix documentation ?
[02:42] <cafuego> wasabi: I don't think so.
[02:43] <Seveas> SUPEROGT, www.google.com/search?q=gnoppix
[02:43] <cafuego> wasabi: Can I privmsg you?
[02:43] <wasabi> Sure.
[02:43] <SUPEROGT> dah
[02:43] <wasabi> About the evils of having them wide open or something?
[02:44] <Seveas>  /remove #ubuntu cafuego Seveas h4xx0rzz y00
[02:44] <Seveas> :p
[02:45] <LinuxDolt> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[02:45] <wasabi> Somebody mentioned OSPF a few weeks ago as a potential solution.
[02:45] <LinuxDolt> that line SHOULD include that package, nay?
[02:45] <SUPEROGT> hum
[02:45] <wasabi> But I never figured that out.
[02:45] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, yes
[02:45] <cafuego> Seveas: Sshhh.
[02:45] <LinuxDolt> yet i don't have that package...
[02:45] <Seveas> cafuego, je band loopt leeg :p
[02:46] <cafuego> Seveas: neen, dat is mijn hoofd.
[02:46] <houman_zhu> i have a question regarding the mail command, everytime i try to send an email from commandline it is sent from localhost.localdomain, how do i set the commandline mail client to use my real email info?
[02:46] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, make sure you spell it correctly :)
[02:46] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: that's what copy and paste is for ;)
[02:46] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Check /etc/mailname and /etc/postfix/main.cf
[02:46] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, then don't forget to remove the trailing ':'
[02:46] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: of course
[02:46] <cafuego> houman_zhu: it will use info from either of those files and prefix your login name.
[02:47] <houman_zhu> cafuego: thank you , also if this email command works does that mean im runing a mail server?
[02:47] <Seveas> houman_zhu, yes (usually)
[02:47] <cafuego> houman_zhu: if you installed ubuntu, you're running postfix (a mail server).
[02:47] <houman_zhu> cafuego:i mean its obviously not using my outgoing server that i specified in thunderbird for example, can i kinda make it use the info from thunderbird?
[02:48] <Seveas> houman_zhu, no
[02:48] <cafuego> houman_zhu: yes, you can.
[02:48] <elvirolo> hi
[02:48] <LinuxDolt> ep: Couldn't find package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[02:48] <houman_zhu> cafuego: hmm, i guess most of you guys turn it off after installation right?
[02:48] <cafuego> houman_zhu: it's not exactly trivial, though.
[02:48] <houman_zhu> cafuego: i mean the mail server
[02:48] <cafuego> houman_zhu: No, I just set mine up to forward all mail to the office smtp server; that box is set up to deal with any mails appropriately.
[02:49] <malvo1> if you are using an athlon, and you use the k7 kernel, is there much of a performance boost?
[02:49] <cafuego> houman_zhu: if you turn it off, the system can't send you info about misconfigured packages or failed cron jobs,
[02:49] <houman_zhu> cafuego: but say for most people having an email server is unecesary kind of, so how would i turn it off?
[02:49] <elvirolo> i currently have both ubuntu (GNOME that is) and Kubuntu installed ... but i want to get rid of ubuntu ... do i have to look for the individual ackages manually ? ubuntu-desktop depends on all these packages, but the packages don't depend on ubuntu-desktop, so it makes it difficult
[02:49] <cafuego> malvo1: A bit, nothing to write home about.
[02:50] <cafuego> houman_zhu: The best way is to remove postficx and install nullmailer (many packages depend on an installed mail server, that gives you a fake one, so other stuff doesn't break)
[02:50] <elvirolo> /koin #kubuntu
[02:50] <skaja> i get this error when i try to dial out using ubuntu cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit
[02:50] <elvirolo> whoops
[02:50] <houman_zhu> cafuego: so if you set up your mail toforward to the office mail server, say you sent an email to bob@mail.com, will bob see your real office email address as the sender? i mean im trying to think how does your office mail server figure out who this mail was sent frmo
[02:51] <cafuego> shite; don't you hate it when you forget to take the olive pips out of your espresso cup?
[02:51] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[02:51] <houman_zhu> cafuego: wow that sounds like a great idea, cuz i dont want the overhead of running an unecessary service
[02:51] <cafuego> houman_zhu: You can give it mapping tables; so that email coming from cafuego@dhcp-10.10.1.18.intranet is mapped to cafuego@domain.com before it's sent on.
[02:52] <cafuego> houman_zhu: If you already use thunderbird anyway, just install nullmailer.
[02:52] <houman_zhu> cafuego: you got to ask the admin right? in that case i cant do that, i have a commercial ISP
[02:52] <cafuego> houman_zhu: You can make YOUR postfix do that mapping.
[02:53] <cafuego> houman_zhu: ... and then YOUR postfix can send those mails on securely to your ISPs mail server, which can then do as it sees fit.
[02:53] <houman_zhu> cafuego: thanks, i guess i should go with the nullmailer thing, thank you so mcuh for your help
[02:53] <cafuego> houman_zhu: It's just a matter of deciding whether it's worth fiddling with for a week... ;-)
[02:54] <houman_zhu> cafuego: yea, i might set that up, its cool to be able to send mail from commandline, hahaha, im such a geek
[02:55] <houman_zhu> cafuego: im being nosy , one question, do you run ubuntu in your office?
[02:55] <cafuego> houman_zhu: The thing in postfi to look for is a smarthost (maybe using smtp auth) and virtusertable settings.
[02:55] <skaja> i get this error when i try to dial out using ubuntu cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit
[02:56] <elvirolo> my menus in kubuntu lack a lot of entries like kmail, kfrb, etc ... anyone knows why ?
[02:56] <elvirolo> is there a workaround ?
[02:56] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I have two machines running Ubuntu, one running WinXP, one running Win2K, one running Debian Sarge and two running MacOS X Tiger.
[02:56] <houman_zhu> cafuego: thanks, i guess i have to read some docs about postfix if i wanna figure that out
[02:56] <CarlFK> booted, grub came up.  is there a way to get it to boot the CD or floppy?
[02:56] <NightLord> can someone help me with a ppproblem i gooot with my mouse?
[02:56] <houman_zhu> cafuego: is that a home office or somehting :|
[02:56] <cafuego> houman_zhu: The remote (main) server runs Debian sarge.
[02:56] <cafuego> houman_zhu: yep.
[02:56] <elvirolo> please ... ideas ?
[02:56] <houman_zhu> cafuego: at my work they just give you one box, haha
[02:57] <cafuego> houman_zhu: The remote server does all the main mail handling (for clients as well).
[02:57] <houman_zhu> cafuego: no wonder you knwo so much, for us the admin does everything so we wont learn squat
[02:57] <elvirolo> listen, is there an ubuntu channel with proper geeks that answer *any* of your questions in half a second ?
[02:57] <JKnife> yeah its called man
[02:57] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I *am* the admin.
[02:57] <houman_zhu> cafuego: i assume youre hosting a website there too right?
[02:57] <JKnife> elvirolo, ^
[02:57] <NightLord> clicking doesn't work right, like, when i try to right click, or click drop downs etc, i have to hold down the mouse button, even though normally if i click it stays open
[02:57] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I host web and mail for about 120 domains.
[02:58] <Madpilot> elvirolo: this is about as good as it gets... and keep in mind that nobody gets paid to be here...
[02:58] <JKnife> Madpilot, i dont think he has meet man yet
[02:58] <houman_zhu> cafuego: wow thats pretty amazing, do you do web design and programming too?
[02:58] <cafuego> houman_zhu: A bit yes.
[02:59] <JKnife> web design is a LOT easier then programming
[02:59] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I wrote most of the admin backend, so clients can manage all their own email stuff (liek adding mailboxes and aliases)
[02:59] <NightLord> so does anyone know whats wrong?
[02:59] <houman_zhu> cafuego: lotsa shell scripting?
[02:59] <cafuego> JKnife: Not really. only if you think designing involves putting a picture and an ugly font on a site.
[02:59] <cafuego> houman_zhu: php
[02:59] <cafuego> houman_zhu: and C wrappers
[02:59] <pcharky> JKnife: I disagree.. I'm a total loser at webdesign ;)
[03:00] <cafuego> JKnife: If you add the requirement for cross-browser and disabled accessibility...
[03:00] <houman_zhu> web design could get VERY complicated, i had a friend who worked at amazon, and some of the server side programming is pretyt hardcore, os webdesign is more than just html
[03:00] <JKnife> cafuego, your right flash, java, and cgi are a bit tricky
[03:00] <NightLord> so thats a no?
[03:01] <monkey89> ugh, java is so not web design
[03:01] <cafuego> JKnife: I use neither flash nor java, as they're not cross comparible. (My amd64 box runs neither).
[03:01] <pcharky> JKnife: It's about as tricky as you want it to be.
[03:01] <JKnife> they dont have it for amd64?
[03:01] <houman_zhu> im sure there is java virtual thingie for amd too
[03:01] <cafuego> There's a 1.4.2 java plugin
[03:01] <Madpilot> at least 90% of the flash & java in use, shouldn't be in use at all... perhaps that should be 99%...
[03:01] <Seveas> cafuego, sun jave runs fine on amd64 :)
[03:01] <cafuego> The 1.5 jre has no plugin.
[03:02] <cafuego> Seveas: Yes, I know. Applications. Not web stuff.
[03:02] <houman_zhu> i agreee with java because it makes loading webpages slow, but i think flash is cool, i think the new generation of websites will have lotsa flash
[03:02] <cafuego> houman_zhu: flash is BAD.
[03:02] <monkey89> the flash plugin crashes my browser once in a while, sound is lagged
[03:02] <Madpilot> houman_zhu: unfortunately, you may be right... :(
[03:02] <Agrajag> flash makes accessibility pretty much impossible
[03:02] <cafuego> houman_zhu: 1) it is slow to load; more then 50% of people are on 56K. Flash cannot be indexed by search engines.
[03:02] <houman_zhu> cafuego: why? then how do you make interactive and colorful webpages? no java and no flash? then what else?
[03:03] <pcharky> To me, it's all perl.
[03:03] <monkey89> you can still be interactive with ajax
[03:03] <monkey89> ive heard great things about ruby on rails
[03:03] <JKnife> have yall seen the 3d window manager that is being built off java?
[03:03] <cafuego> houman_zhu: If people want interactivity that requires flash I tell them to find a gfx designer, not a web coder.
[03:03] <monkey89> looking glass? yes
[03:03] <Nalioth> houman_zhu: css javascript
[03:03] <Madpilot> houman_zhu: CSS & PHP can do pretty cool things
[03:03] <pabqas> yo.
[03:03] <houman_zhu> css and javasript wont give you the kinda visdual effects you could get from flash
[03:04] <monkey89> i recommend yuo look at csszengarden
[03:04] <pabqas> anyone ever come accross a situation whereby you ping localhost ( or try to do anything ) and get an 'operation not permitted'
[03:04] <Demon_stroke> ok i dl'd the essentail codecs, how do i get them installed
[03:04] <houman_zhu> cafuego: and where do 50% of people have dialup? USA? mo way, everyone has broadband
[03:04] <cafuego> houman_zhu: People don't LOOK at websites because they want visual effects. They want info.
[03:04] <pabqas> Everything seemed to be fine until a while back
[03:04] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I suggest you check the figures before you make that usa broadband claim.
[03:04] <JKnife> houman_zhu, only 75% of ppl have broadband in the US
[03:04] <Madpilot> http://www.csszengarden.com/ <-- pure CSS & graphics. no flash. not at all boring
[03:04] <houman_zhu> cafuego: i disagree, MOST of the time people lok to the web for entertainment
[03:04] <NightLord> I really need help
[03:04] <monkey89> ^^
[03:05] <JKnife> houman_zhu, where do you live(state pm it if you want)
[03:05] <Madpilot> NightLord: ask your questions, someone will stop being off-topic long enough to help...
[03:05] <Demon_stroke> can some1 giv me directions on setting up codecs
[03:05] <skaja> can some one help me with my error
[03:05] <houman_zhu> its ifne, canada
[03:05] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I find that the clients I work for don't have that audience.
[03:05] <NightLord> i did ask it
[03:05] <JKnife> b/c in the south a lot of people dont have broadband
[03:05] <NightLord> but i'll ask again
[03:05] <Madpilot> !tell Demon_stroke about restricted
[03:05] <monkey89> Demon_stroke, what do you mean by setting up codecs?  what type of format do you want to play?
[03:05] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Thus I don't have to build shock-the-monkey flash scripts.
[03:06] <cafuego> JKnife: ... or a house
[03:06] <houman_zhu> cafuego: ok, then you cant make a general claim about web usage, i liek flash, specially those games :p
[03:06] <monkey89> flash and java are appropriate for games.  not for navigation or pretty much most elements of a website
[03:06] <Demon_stroke> I want to play mp3 files, but it says no codecs, so i downloaded the codecs wut do i do with them
[03:06] <NightLord> I seem to be having a problem with my mouse,  aka, normally when i right click or click on drop down lists, i click once, and the menu stays open, but now, i have to hold down the button to get it to stay open, why?
[03:06] <JKnife> cafuego, they have trailers
[03:06] <jfosa> dir
[03:06] <monkey89> Demon_stroke, www.ubuntuguide.org has a section on how to play mp3s
[03:06] <jfosa> how do i install a bin file?
[03:06] <monkey89> jfosa, chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin
[03:06] <skaja> error cant get termal parameters input/output error connect script failed exit
[03:07] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: see the msg that ubotu sent you for codecs info
[03:07] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I'm just going on what I have seen from people I visit and work for. Most know about flash, but aren't interested in waitinf for movies or splash intros to download. They invariably click 'skip'.
[03:07] <houman_zhu> cafuego: but i think the future of the web wont be html, it will be something else, i mean in the future people will have broadband and there is a need for something more sophisticated than pure js and css, thats why i assumed flash would be it
[03:07] <Demon_stroke> i got the codecs i cant figure out wut i do with them
[03:07] <jfosa> monkey89: thanks
[03:07] <monkey89> Demon_stroke, please read the website I mentioned.
[03:07] <cafuego> houman_zhu: maybe you have experience with different usage, but I know what my clienst want and I know what I prefer designing <heh>
[03:08] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <houman_zhu> cafuego: absoluetly i didnt say youre wrong, im just saying there is a large group out there (maybe 50%) who go to websites for entertainment, for example i like when people show their thumbnails and images using flash, very interactive :)
[03:08] <skaja> i think i helped my self
[03:09] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:09] <Madpilot> houman_zhu: I'm waiting for JS-activated animated SVGs - that's going to be cool, and a lot more bandwidth-friendly than Flash (and Free, too)
[03:09] <cafuego> houman_zhu: The future of the web 9if corporations have anything to say about it) involves an INTARWEB Browser[tm]  with a menu of precompiled crap and advertisit. A bit like AOL.
[03:09] <houman_zhu> cafuego: so i guess unecssarily long and tedious intros to websites with flash are redundant, but there are places that they are very much appropriate
[03:09] <monkey89> svg can definitely be a future animation tech for websites
[03:10] <skaja> nope that wont work shoot
[03:10] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Perhaps, I find that showing thumnails in flash as opposed to just pngs on html is slower.
[03:10] <Demon_stroke> ah, thanks nalioth
[03:10] <houman_zhu> cafuego: you say AOL? if thats the future of the web then ill run over with my modem with my truck and never use my computer again
[03:10] <rob_p> skaja:  Whatcha tryin' to do?
[03:10] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Time Warner already owns you <heh>
[03:10] <houman_zhu> cafuego: if you have broadband and a new cpu i dont think you can really tell the difference
[03:11] <houman_zhu> cafuego: why? my isp is not AOL
[03:11] <rob_p> skaja:  not saying that I can help or anything... just curious...
[03:11] <monkey89> i have a pentium 4 2.4 ghz, 512 mb ram.  I can't play a simple flash game of pong with the sound on or it lags like crazy.
[03:11] <Madpilot> houman_zhu: sure, *assuming* that flash works for you at all...
[03:11] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Your main content provider probably is, though.
[03:12] <houman_zhu> cafuego: :( that sucks , i thought my isp was a small canadian company run by good old local people
[03:12] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Your opinion on internet latency is probably a bit skewed as well. I live a MINIMUM 170msec away from anywhere except new zealand.
[03:12] <houman_zhu> cafuego: :| may i ask where you live? pupa new ginea or something?
[03:13] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Bit further south.
[03:13] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Australia (Melbourne)
[03:13] <skaja> is grub the only one i can use?
[03:13] <JKnife> no
[03:13] <JKnife> you can use lilo
[03:13] <houman_zhu> cafuego: oh ok, hahah, well you guys are connected to internet backbones through satellite or somerthing i dunno, so i dont think it will be slow
[03:14] <skaja> i like lilo better how do i use lilo
[03:14] <cafuego> houman_zhu: sattellites are FAR slower then cable.
[03:14] <JKnife> apt-get install lilo
[03:14] <houman_zhu> cafuego: ohg now that im talking to a pro, do you know how i can lauch embedded videos in websites in an external player, i always have to switch to windows cuz i cant watch the daily show in my browser
[03:15] <skaja> satt has a bad upload speed
[03:15] <cafuego> houman_zhu: No, we have a few links from Sydnet to LA and sydney/melbourne to Auckland then LA. I think there's something going off north through the Phillipines as well.
[03:15] <JKnife> apt-get remove lilo
[03:15] <JKnife> apt-get remove grub*
[03:15] <wasabi> Wonder if there is some creative way to completely disable the BIOS screens on my mobo. =/
[03:15] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Still, 6000km equals lag.
[03:15] <skaja> oh thanks
[03:15] <JKnife> apt-get remove grub && apt-get install lilo
[03:15] <JKnife> there we go
[03:15] <cafuego> houman_zhu: embedded video doesn't run on AMD64.
[03:15] <houman_zhu> cafuego: well, latency doesnt mean low speed right?
[03:16] <houman_zhu> cafuego: why embedded video doesnt run on amd? im sure everything in linux has been ported to amd
[03:16] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I'd never design a site with embedded video anyway, I'd provide a link
[03:16] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Oh no, it's FAST enough, the initial response time isn't low, though.
[03:16] <houman_zhu> cafuego: to see embedded video you need 1- firefox 2- mplayer 3- mplayer-plugin, and there is 64 bit version for everything
[03:16] <cafuego> houman_zhu: stuff like w32codecs (WMA, Real, Quicktime) run 32bit windows code.
[03:17] <rob_p> cafuego:  You on a satellite connection too?
[03:17] <houman_zhu> cafuego: you gotta be kidding, i was gonna buy an amd now i wont
[03:17] <cafuego> houman_zhu: amd64 doesn't run 32bit windows code when Linux runs in 64bit mode.
[03:17] <cafuego> rob_p: hell no
[03:17] <monkey89> use theora video or mpeg4 or whatever it is that the guy who made the xgl videos used
[03:17] <rob_p> cafuego:  wish I could say the same :-)
[03:17] <cafuego> I don't have a need for video, though. My DVD player, attached to the TV, works fine.
[03:18] <rob_p> cafuego:  just under 1 second of latency (round-trip)
[03:18] <houman_zhu> cafuego: but im sure someone will port those codecs to 64 bit soon enough, and isnt here 32 bit emulation in amd? so it will be backward compatible with 32 bits? or yhou totally cant run anythign 32
[03:18] <cyphase> are there any plans at all to combine gstreamer and xine?
[03:18] <cafuego> rob_p: yeah, annoying on remote shells.
[03:18] <monkey89> cyphase, combine in what sense
[03:18] <wasabi> cyphase: whatcha mean by that
[03:18] <Demon_stroke> ok im still having trouble with the codecs and i looked at that page
[03:18] <cyphase> take the best from both and make them one framework
[03:18] <cafuego> houman_zhu: They haven't ported them in the past year; what do you mean by 'soon' ?
[03:19] <wasabi> gstreamer is the best.
[03:19] <wasabi> Heh.
[03:19] <cyphase> there are formats 1 supports that the other doesn't
[03:19] <wasabi> Then the code can't be copied.
[03:19] <cafuego> houman_zhu: I can run them in a 32bit chroot, yes. but i don't NEED them, so why would I bother setting them up?
[03:19] <rob_p> cafuego:  Yup!  I've got 2 open at the moment as well as a VPN to a couple of servers in the US... latency HELL!!!
[03:19] <houman_zhu> cafuego: well the number of people owning 64 bit processors is increasing dramatically, im sure the free software people will come up with a solution soon
[03:19] <Demon_stroke> sudo apt-get install "file name here?"
[03:19] <cafuego> houman_zhu: that's optimistic, I'
[03:20] <cafuego> m not holding my breath.
[03:20] <cafuego> houman_zhu: If you want Linux on an amd64, just run the i386 flavour. it'll STILL be faster then a P4.
[03:21] <houman_zhu> cafuego: but i want higher floating point op accuracy!!!! haha im, kidding
[03:21] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: use Synaptic, it's easier than apt-get...
[03:21] <Madpilot> !tell Demon_stroke about synaptic
[03:21] <cafuego> houman_zhu: INT_MAX is still INT_MAX
[03:22] <houman_zhu> yea but im sure there is some benefits in runing them i a real 64 bit environment
[03:22] <houman_zhu> it like buying a corvette and driving it in manhattan
[03:22] <Hentai^NT> lol
[03:22] <houman_zhu> i mean, you cant benefit from the speed or whatever the 64 bit cpu has to offer if you run it in 32
[03:23] <Agrajag> of course you can, you can't have more than 4GB of ram, but who has that much?
[03:24] <houman_zhu> so is that th eonly advantage of amd 64 ? you can have more ram?
[03:24] <Agrajag> they're still faster in 32-bit mode than a 32-bit processor, due to just plain being better
[03:24] <Agrajag> well no, but it's the most immediate one
[03:24] <Agrajag> it's the only one you'd notice right now
[03:24] <Agrajag> once the userland comes together and you can do everything in 64-bit mode that you can in 32, it'll be better to run 64-bit
[03:25] <houman_zhu> ok, well, i wont have money to buy one, im happy with my centrino :p
[03:25] <Agrajag> I just got one yesterday
[03:25] <houman_zhu> which isnt really fast, in spite of what the dude at best buy told me
[03:25] <houman_zhu> amd?
[03:25] <Agrajag> gonna go reinstall ubuntu in a few minutes
[03:25] <Agrajag> yeah
[03:25] <Agrajag> a 3000+
[03:25] <houman_zhu> 3500?
[03:25] <Agrajag> god no
[03:25] <houman_zhu> why not go for the dual core?
[03:25] <Agrajag> too expensive
[03:25] <Agrajag> waaaay too expensive
[03:26] <houman_zhu> or the multicore
[03:26] <Agrajag> I'm not paying more than $200 for a processor, no way
[03:26] <houman_zhu> yea, the dual core is like 1000, more than my laptop
[03:26] <Xanthus7> what can you tell me about breezy is it worth installing
[03:26] <Nalioth> cafuego: you here?
[03:27] <MarcN> houman_zhu: I'm playing around with an opteron dc -- very nice.
[03:27] <MarcN> sadly not running ubuntu or even debian...
[03:27] <houman_zhu> then what?
[03:27] <houman_zhu> dont say the W word
[03:28] <MarcN> houman_zhu: RHEL 4.  on a 2P, DC one of these: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant-bl/p-class/25p/index.html
[03:28] <Xanthus7> what can you tell me about breezy is it worth installing is stable or still a bunch of trouble
[03:28] <monkey89> its pretty decent here, but things still might break
[03:28] <IcemanV9> Xanthus7: if you have spare pc or nothing to lose (losing data), then install and play with it
[03:28] <Nalioth> Xanthus7: wait a couple weeks
[03:29] <houman_zhu> breezy is the new one? its available for dl ?
[03:29] <IcemanV9> or even dual-boot (hoary & breezy)
[03:29] <monkey89> there are preleases
[03:29] <CCFIEL> hello ppl..
[03:29] <houman_zhu> wow , im off to screw up my comp
[03:29] <Nalioth> houman_zhu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:29] <durt> breezy seems no more troublesome than hoary
[03:30] <monkey89> hey, im using it on my only desktop here, and it works quite well - but ive used linux long enough to know how to fix things when they break
[03:30] <monkey89> and all my data is on another hard disk
[03:30] <CCFIEL> what will i install so that i could have a big icons in my lower center of my desktop? like i  have seen..
[03:30] <CCFIEL> to other sample desktp
[03:30] <monkey89> engage, gdesklets starterbar
[03:30] <monkey89> you mean the zooming bar, right?
[03:30] <CCFIEL> yes..
[03:30] <houman_zhu> cafuego: anywya sim off to bed, thanks again for all your help if youre there, night m8
[03:30] <CCFIEL> ok..i have install gdesklets.. what is next?:)
[03:31] <monkey89> get the starterbar desklet
[03:31] <monkey89> i dont know enough about it to help you there
[03:31] <monkey89> but check their website
[03:31] <CCFIEL> monkey...ok..thanks..
[03:35] <Demon_stroke> i still cant get the codec package to install, im feelinglike more of an idiot then wen my own virus killed my comp
[03:36] <durt> why is is that some WMVs play fine, but others dont, and totem says they are "encrypted"?
[03:36] <JKnife> how do i make .deb's from cvs source
[03:36] <mik3> anyone want to help me tackle a problem i have with repositories and apt-get update i am having?
[03:36] <durt> Jknife: i think "make package" might do that
[03:37] <durt> just ask mik3
[03:37] <mik3> is Seveas asleep? =(
[03:37] <CCFIEL> i have installed gdesklets.. i want to have the starterbar what shall i do..:( i have click gdesklets..but nothing happens..
[03:38] <Demon_stroke> hey, how do i get synaptic (or wutever) to install my codec package
[03:38] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: the codec pkg has to be in the repos
[03:38] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: do you have the Universe/Multverse repos enabled?
[03:38] <JKnife> mik3, how do i build .deb pkgs from cvs
[03:38] <Demon_stroke> lemmi check brb
[03:39] <Xanthus7> I am trying to install nzb newsreader and I need this file installed Qt 4
[03:39] <Xanthus7> I understand you cannot install it in this version of ubuntu but can in breezy
[03:40] <mik3> JKnife : sorry, i'm relatively new to linux, i wouldn't be much help to you. it looks like all of the helpers in here are gone.
[03:40] <JKnife> k
[03:41] <Demon_stroke> >.<
[03:41] <DavidChipman> Hi all!!
[03:42] <durt> jkife: why do you need to make a deb package?
[03:42] <DavidChipman> What is the initial root password for Ubuntu?
[03:42] <Nalioth> DavidChipman: there is none
[03:43] <Nalioth> !tell DavidChipman about root
[03:43] <mik3> !tell Nalioth about root
[03:43] <mik3> oops
[03:43] <DavidChipman> so, how do I log in to root?
[03:43] <mik3> Davey: you don't
[03:43] <DavidChipman> mik3, eh?
[03:43] <mik3> DavidChipman: you don't
[03:43] <Nalioth> DavidChipman: read what the bot sent you via PM
[03:43] <mik3> has anyone seen this problem before while doing an apt-get update ---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1841
[03:43] <Quinthius> DavidChipman: you can start a root terminal from the applications -> system menu... but mostly you're supposed to use sudo to do admining
[03:44] <DavidChipman> Why? How does one install software from source?
[03:44] <Nalioth> DavidChipman: sudo
[03:44] <mik3> it's annoying coming from fbsd to ubuntu with the whole sudo thing.
[03:44] <DavidChipman> (ie: su -c 'make install')
[03:44] <Quinthius> DavidChipman: sudo...
[03:44] <Nalioth> stay away from the applications > system > root terminal
[03:44] <mik3> Nalioth : why?
[03:44] <Quinthius> Nalioth: why :P
[03:44] <DavidChipman> I'm comgin from Fedora Core
[03:45] <anomaly> I have heard there is a basic install available. where might I find it to download iso? and secondly, I was never asked for a root password, is this a ubuntu thing? :)
[03:45] <kafeine> cause you can crash kill and burn your system
[03:45] <Nalioth> because it's a vestigial app in the menu from debian
[03:45] <Nalioth> use sudo -s instead for a temporary root terminal
[03:45] <Demon_stroke> i cant enable universe/multverse beacause there is no internet connection on that computer, can i download those then add them?
[03:45] <DavidChipman> So? Let me crash and burn..
[03:45] <Quinthius> not intended to be there for ubuntu?
[03:45] <JKnife> im out
[03:45] <mik3> anomaly : instead of hitting enter during installation, read the options, you can install server , normal desktop system, etc.
[03:45] <anomaly> mik3 ty
[03:45] <kafeine> DavidChipman, feel free. Your install cs is laying around, I hope
[03:45] <Nalioth> anomaly: it's the same download. just choose 'server install'
[03:45] <Madpilot> !tell anomaly about root
[03:46] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: did you read what i sent you earlier about mplayerhq?
[03:46] <anomaly> Madpilot ty
[03:46] <kafeine> anyway, it's just as unsafe for new and inexperienced users as it is for experienced ones
[03:46] <Demon_stroke> yes thats were i downloaded the Codecs from, i just cant get them to work lol
[03:46] <kafeine> a friend of mine ocassionally rm-ed all of his source code just because he didn't pay attention
[03:46] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: have you opened the archive?
[03:47] <expense> does anyone have experience with vsftpd?
[03:47] <Nalioth> kafeine: i hate it when i do that
[03:47] <Demon_stroke> yes i did
[03:47] <DavidChipman> How do I change screen resolution? (What's the program name?)
[03:47] <kafeine> :)
[03:47] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: are you familiar with the terminal?
[03:47] <Nalioth> !tell DavidChipman about resolution
[03:47] <Demon_stroke> ive used it to n extent
[03:48] <Nalioth> DavidChipman: system > prefs > screen resolution
[03:48] <Demon_stroke> id say im pretty frimilar
[03:48] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: open a terminal, and cd into the codecs directory
[03:48] <Demon_stroke> k
[03:48] <Nalioth> too much service for him, i guess
[03:49] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/codecs"
[03:49] <malvo1> liferea is a nice program
[03:49] <malvo1> bad name, but nice program
[03:49] <Nalioth> malvo1: i've used yarssr and rawdog b4, but they both showed me their issues
[03:50] <cruzbullit> hey
[03:50] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: keep me informed of your progress
[03:50] <atpwb> Hi, I'm trying to grep from a text file only lines beginning with a string; can anyone help me with what options I need?
[03:50] <cruzbullit> can anyone guide me through the setup process of tvtime?
[03:50] <Demon_stroke> how do i switch dirs
[03:51] <mik3> ..
[03:51] <mik3> are you serious?
[03:51] <Madpilot> !tell Demon_stroke about cli
[03:52] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: basic command line stuff at the URLs ubotu just sent you
[03:52] <malvo1> !help
[03:52] <atpwb> Any grep wonks out there?
[03:52] <mik3> gotta love a basic unix virgins
[03:52] <mik3> makes me teary eyed
[03:52] <rendi> libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common  <== how to add in respositoris ??
[03:52] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: cd
[03:52] <Demon_stroke> thanks madpilot
[03:52] <rendi> it say E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2
[03:52] <Demon_stroke> k lemmi test this out
[03:53] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: just dont test with "sudo", lol
[03:53] <malvo1> any parents here that force their kids to use Linux?
[03:53] <Quinthius> haha
[03:53] <atpwb> Grepping help, anyone? Pretty please?
[03:53] <MarcN> malvo1: i force them to use Firefox, thunderbird and openoffice (on windows)
[03:53] <IcemanV9> force?? i think they ALREADY knew about linux! :p
[03:53] <rendi> anyone can help
[03:54] <lopingo> hello
[03:54] <Madpilot> atpwb: "man grep" isn't any help?
[03:54] <lopingo> im noob... i need help
[03:54] <cruzbullit> can anyone guide me through the setup process of tvtime?
[03:54] <zdennis> MarcN, last year I got my brother and girlfriend to use OpenOffice, and now my family, and my brothe'rs girlfriend's family and friends call me on where to download OO
[03:54] <zdennis> OO is sweet
[03:54] <malvo1> Yea, whenever I meet people I try to switch them over
[03:54] <zdennis> and i haven't pusehd it on anyone!
[03:54] <malvo1> It's like an experiment to see how well they can make due, and entertaining to watch
[03:54] <Madpilot> rendi: libgtk-1.2 is in repos, at least for me
[03:54] <lopingo> i cant suft the net with firefox but i can chat here
[03:54] <lopingo> surf*
[03:55] <malvo1> zealotry is fun =)
[03:55] <rendi> not
[03:55] <rendi> i still can find that packet
[03:56] <rendi> E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2
[03:56] <IcemanV9> rendi: did you add repos??
[03:56] <elvirolo> please, could anyone tell me how to make my kde menu behave properly ?
[03:56] <Madpilot> rendi: leave the dash out. "libgtk1.2
[03:56] <Madpilot> "
[03:56] <MarcN> zdennis: even my manager can use OOo, which is nice.
[03:56] <rendi> i'm follow on ubuntuguide.org
[03:56] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[03:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[03:56] <Nalioth> rendi: be careful with that
[03:56] <OddAbe19> i keep getting kicked to ubuntu-unregged... why
[03:57] <elvirolo> OddAbe19: cause y're not registered
[03:57] <OddAbe19> don't tell me that
[03:57] <OddAbe19> i know i am
[03:57] <OddAbe19> i have no problem on any other channel
[03:57] <malvo1> did you identify yourself?
[03:57] <elvirolo> well identify then :)
[03:57] <OddAbe19> yes
[03:57] <Madpilot> OddAbe19: Freenode has been having trouble with spambots
[03:57] <OddAbe19> automagically
[03:57] <malvo1> odd
[03:57] <elvirolo>  /msg nickserv password
[03:57] <OddAbe19> -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[03:57] <OddAbe19> * services. sets mode +e OddAbe19
[03:57] <OddAbe19> like i said
[03:58] <rendi> Madpilot what u mean with dash out ??
[03:58] <OddAbe19> i automatically identify
[03:58] <Nalioth> OddAbe19 is IDd
[03:58] <elvirolo> can anyone *please* tell me why i seem to be the only perosn whose kde menu is lacking entries ?
[03:58] <rendi>  sudo apt-get install "libgtk-1.2 <= like this ?
[03:58] <Madpilot> rendi: the filename doesn't have a dash in it. it's "libgtk1.2"
[03:58] <Nalioth> rendi: use synaptic. it's easier
[03:58] <zdennis> elvirolo, i dont use kde, so perhaps that is why mine is empty
[03:58] <malvo1> !gnome
[03:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[03:59] <malvo1> !kde
[03:59] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[03:59] <elvirolo> well,i happen to use KDE, and to prefer it over to gnome
[03:59] <malvo1> hmmm, I was expecting more slander
[03:59] <elvirolo> (although i do like gnome as well)
[03:59] <Demon_stroke> says, "cannot make directory file or directory does not exist
[03:59] <rendi> i'm still can't find libgtk-1.2 on sypnatic
[03:59] <aru> OddAbe19: mine registers when I connect, but nickserv is slow at recognizing me, so it throws me in unregged first
[04:00] <Madpilot> rendi: it is NOT called "libgtk-1.2", there is NO DASH in the filename!
[04:00] <Madpilot> this is only the 3rd time I've explained this to you, pardon me for sounding peeved...
[04:00] <rendi> yes
[04:00] <rendi> still can't
[04:01] <Madpilot> rendi: search Synaptic for "libgtk"
[04:01] <Madpilot> rendi: you will find a file called "libgtk1.2" - with NO DASH in the filename...
[04:02] <overture> could anyone help me troubleshoot a problem with my box?
[04:02] <Nalioth> overture: if we knew what it was
[04:03] <rendi> see this
[04:03] <rendi> this thread need correct
[04:03] <rendi> not http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[04:04] <overture> various applications (i.e. firefox) crash very very often, X locks up somewhat often, and the system completly hangs (cant ssh in remotely, etc) often as well
[04:04] <rendi> libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common but libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common
[04:04] <atpwb> madpilot, I was away; man grep was not helpful however this was very helpful: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html
[04:04] <overture> ive run memtest86 on for well over an hour (many passes of each test)
[04:04] <h17m4n> hey all
[04:04] <overture> with no problems
[04:05] <Madpilot> rendi: posting a correction on that thread would probably be appreciated - the forums are easy to sign up to
[04:05] <h17m4n> does anyone know if this works for the amd64 distro: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&
[04:05] <rendi> ok
[04:05] <zdennis> overture, do you have access to additional memory you could swap out temporarily to see if system freezes still happen?
[04:05] <overture> any my cpu doesnt seem to have heat problems (lots of testing under real full loads, and stress tests like prime95's torture tests)
[04:06] <skaja> i tryed every thing to get my modem to work with ubuntu nothing seems to work
[04:06] <overture> zdennis, unfortunately not
[04:06] <mauper> skaja: what kind of modem is that ?
[04:06] <skaja> hardware modem
[04:07] <mauper> usb, serial, pcicard ... ?
[04:07] <skaja> its an actiontec pci
[04:07] <h17m4n> hardware modems are easier to set up on windoze... I dont no about linux tho(I'm a noob)
[04:07] <mauper> skaja: yuck ;) - that might be a problem
[04:07] <h17m4n> soft modems = pain
[04:08] <skaja> it supports linux
[04:08] <theeil> what repository do i need for limewire?
[04:08] <overture> theeil, its easy enough just to download their .bin, isnt it?
[04:08] <aru> theeil: I believe it's multiverse
[04:08] <theeil> ah ok thanks
[04:09] <kevogod> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:09] <Nalioth> theeil: you can use gtk-gnutella. it does the same thing w/o the java bloat
[04:09] <kevogod> (SORRY for linking to Ubuntu guide)
[04:09] <Nalioth> kevogod: please
[04:09] <overture> lol
[04:09] <IcemanV9> kevogod: don't be sorry, ubotu said it as well
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:09] <mauper> skaja: what does "cat /proc/pci" tell ?
[04:09] <h17m4n> setting up limewire isnt as hard as setting up ndiswrapper+broadcom is it?
[04:10] <kevogod> Probably not
[04:10] <skaja> i cant get that to work
[04:10] <overture> rofl, not at all
[04:10] <h17m4n> that took me almost 2 days to get done :-(
[04:10] <kevogod> Where does LimeWire.jar come from when trying to build LimeWire?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> limewier shold be fairly easy. last i used it however.. it required the official sun java.
[04:10] <overture> limewire with their binary is basically the same as when installing under windows
[04:11] <overture> [assuming you have java installed] 
[04:11] <skaja> i type that mommand and nothing shows up
[04:11] <cafuego> kevogod: limewire.jar would be the equivalent to the closed source .exe
[04:11] <h17m4n> and would it work with a sun alternative?
[04:11] <kevogod> So is there no way to reproduce this on one's own? I can create core.jar.
[04:11] <mauper> skaja: that doesn't sound too promising ... I think it should at least show up there ...
[04:12] <theeil> it comes as a .zip with a windoze binary (.exe) and a sh script to launch it
[04:12] <cafuego> h17m4n: probably with blackdown (which is sun) but not with the gcc one
[04:12] <kevogod> but I do not see anywhere about LimeWire.jar
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> . last i used it,.. it required the official sun java.
[04:12] <mik3> how do i decompress a bz2 file?
[04:12] <cafuego> kevogod: *shrug* 3rd party closed source, we can't help.
[04:12] <token_> anyone having "connection refused (111)" on the ubuntu torrent trackers?
[04:12] <Nalioth> cafuego: not ibm java?
[04:12] <cafuego> mik3: bunzip2
[04:12] <skaja> my modem shows up in the divice man.
[04:12] <mik3> thanks
[04:12] <cafuego> Nalioth: Maybe; i've had many segfaults with it.
[04:12] <aru> if you install from the repositories, I doubt you have to worry about anything :)
[04:12] <token_> trying to DL the powerpc dvd and cannot connect to trackers
[04:13] <Nalioth> cafuego: hmmm works fine for me (the .001% of the time i actually use it)
[04:13] <rendi> !wine
[04:13] <cafuego> Nalioth: I need it for a (one) app, which it doesn't work with.
[04:16] <mauper> skaja: then it should show up in ... "cat /proc/bus/pci/devices"
[04:16] <skaja> i have not tryed that yet
[04:17] <DonL> Anyone here use Enlightenment?
[04:18] <theeil> is it OK to delete /usr/X11r6/lib/libGL.a as WineCVS.sh tells me to do?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> theeil,  could just rename it.
[04:18] <cafuego> !find /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a
[04:18] <RedGhost> where would i be able to edit the Applications menu, there is multiple entries for the same program but only one install and i would like to remove one
[04:19] <Nalioth> RedGhost: kde or gnome?
[04:19] <RedGhost> gnome
[04:19] <skaja> brb
[04:19] <cafuego> !test
[04:19] <ubotu> Working....
[04:19] <Pickle_Weasel> if at the time of my install i didn't have a net connection, how would i run the network configuration tool now that i DO have a connection?
[04:19] <Nalioth> !tell RedGhost about smeg
[04:20] <vader1102> !botsnack
[04:20] <ubotu> thanks vader1102 :)
[04:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a' returned no results.
[04:20] <RedGhost> lol... smegma?
[04:20] <RedGhost> :s
[04:20] <RedGhost> oh
[04:20] <RedGhost> ok thanks again mate :D
[04:20] <cafuego> that;'s pretty special
[04:20] <mauper> pickle_weasel: system->administration->networking ?
[04:21] <Pickle_Weasel> ty
[04:21] <Pickle_Weasel> =)
[04:22] <cafuego> what to do, what do do..
[04:22] <cafuego> aha!
[04:22] <Nalioth> cafuego: when are you gonna build ubotu a nice house?
[04:23] <rendi> guy's M$ VB can run in wine very well without error ?
[04:24] <hybrid_goth> wtfh
[04:24] <hybrid_goth> rendi: why do you want VB
[04:24] <h17m4n> this is for firefox: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:24] <h17m4n> java -version
[04:24] <h17m4n> will it work with limewire?
[04:25] <rendi> hybrid_goth just tes my ubuntu working very well with wine or not
[04:25] <hybrid_goth> rendi: vb is not the way to go
[04:25] <rendi> direct x can be ?
[04:25] <hybrid_goth> rendi: try putty or something
[04:25] <hybrid_goth> rendi: yes direct x does and so does WGA
[04:27] <mauper> btw: is the delphi5 debugger working now in wine ?
[04:27] <Tzi> Hi =)
[04:27] <Tzi> Just wondering.. Is Breezy okay to dist-upgrade currently?
[04:27] <Tzi> I heard X was misbehaving
[04:27] <hybrid_goth> Tzi: i wouldnt
[04:28] <Tzi> Still in a bad way? =)
[04:28] <hybrid_goth> Tzi: X is fixed but there is still issues
[04:28] <hybrid_goth> Tzi: ya never know what will happen
[04:28] <Tzi> What kind of issues?
[04:28] <Tzi> Hehe.. Where's your sense of adventure? :P
[04:29] <Tzi> I'm already running it, but haven't upgraded for about 2 weeks now
[04:29] <pdlnhrd> Tzi: i started the dist-upgrade about ten minutes ago... i can let you know in a couple of hours
[04:29] <hybrid_goth> Tzi: it is not much atm
[04:29] <hybrid_goth> but ya never know
[04:29] <Tzi> Okay, great =)
[04:29] <Tzi> Yeah.. I guess not..
[04:30] <hybrid_goth> thats my only draw back
[04:32] <skaja> ok i'm back i did cat /proc/bus/pci/devices and it gave me a bunch of 000000
[04:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> Diesem Saftsack hat werde ich die Fresse polieren!
[04:33] <alex___> morning all
[04:34] <Tzi> Juice sack? =)
[04:34] <Tzi> Morning =)
[04:34] <skaja> i have other modems i could use
[04:35] <alex___> bit of a weird, question, i know its not precisely OT, but was wondering and it's a difficult one to google for (at this time anyway...)...
[04:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the best burning app available for Lin?
[04:36] <Tzi> Carpe_Libertatem: K3b by a long shot =)
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> try Gnome-baker in Ubuntu
[04:36] <Tzi> Gnome-baker doesn't do overburning though, does it?
[04:36] <Tzi> I think it's on the cards though..
[04:36] <malvo1> if your just doing data cds, nautilus works well
[04:36] <alex___> are there any efforts to devel a task-based linux distribution? by this i mean one where all user applications are completey abstraced from the file system
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tzi: don't know
[04:36] <Tzi> Bit slow though, cos it insists on making an image first
[04:36] <malvo1> true
[04:37] <malvo1> btw, is there any way to have it work on the fly?
[04:37] <h17m4n> is anyone using java on a amd64 distro?
[04:37] <Tzi> I don't think so, malvo1.. At least not yet
[04:37] <alex___> ie - you have 'email' and 'music' and 'images' all with shitloads of metadata presented in a format the applications understand
[04:37] <skaja> what verson of debian use for ubuntu 5.04
[04:38] <kevogod> If I use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will my computer die?
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> skaja: Sarge
[04:38] <Tzi> alex___: I think I've heard such a concept being thrown around - Not sure if it's being explored yet
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> kevogod: depends what you dist-upgrade to
[04:38] <malvo1> kevogod: didn't for me
[04:38] <kevogod> Kamping_Kaiser, Windows XP SP2
[04:38] <alex___> Tzi, methingks it would be fucking difficult, but fucking sweet
[04:38] <pdlnhrd> h17m4n:  does gentoo count? cause i run it fine there on my workstation at work  sun's  java works great on it
[04:39] <kevogod> j/k
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> >.<
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't think that would work ;)
[04:39] <Tzi> alex___: Certainly a big shift..
[04:39] <tomchuk> Any liveCD gurus around?
[04:39] <skaja> ok i want here http://start.at/modem my modem has a chip next to it
[04:40] <h17m4n> was it default or you had to install it?
[04:40] <aru> is there any music store applications like itunes for linux?
[04:40] <pdlnhrd> h17m4n:  i had to install it, pretty sure it is due to licensing issues
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> kevogod: dist-upgrade is the recomended way of doing an upgrade
[04:41] <cafuego> aru: to buy misuc? nah
[04:41] <alex___> aru, dvd jon made an apple itunes client
[04:41] <aru> yeah, to buy music
[04:41] <juanej> anyone using quod libet?
[04:41] <alex___> the only non-apple one, havn't looked into it but apparently you can buy music and it gives it you all non drm'd :)
[04:42] <alex___> dunno if its linux, but would be v surprised it it weren't
[04:42] <h17m4n> cool... I'm looking at it right now... I'm browsing thru ubuntuforums... so ubuntu can't ship with it, but can you as a user install it?
[04:42] <skaja> how come this cat /proc/pci does not work in ubuntu
[04:42] <alex___> h17m4n,  depends on whether or not someone's stuck it in a repository you have added, heh
[04:44] <h17m4n> heh... what if I dl the bin and set it up?
[04:44] <alex___> but no, ubuntu couldn't ship with it unless they make a client that's all licensed and certified by apple.. but i don't know if that's possible, and due to the costs involved they certainly couldn't include it in a free distribution
[04:44] <h17m4n> it's on their site... so it has to be legal
[04:45] <skaja> i get cat /proc/pci to work under debian
[04:45] <juanej> how do i use a quodlibet .py plugin???
[04:45] <alex___> h17m4n, what's on whose site?
[04:46] <Tzi> Sun's
[04:46] <Tzi> Yeah there are a few howtos that describe how to install lit..
[04:46] <mik3> note to self: wild turkey and wine do not mix.
[04:46] <h17m4n> this: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[04:46] <Tzi> There's a good one on ubuntuforums.org
[04:46] <Madpilot> mik3: just don't puke on the keyboard, OK? ;)
[04:46] <h17m4n> good thing they have the amd64 version
[04:46] <h17m4n> yeah
[04:47] <transparentdream> how do I get quake2 to work?
[04:47] <Tzi> transparentdream: apt-get install quake2, then copy the game files into /usr/share/games/quake2/somethingsomething..
[04:47] <mik3> Madpilot : that shouldn't be a problem until after this bottle is done
[04:47] <h17m4n> I'm following the last one on this first page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59229
[04:47] <transparentdream> Well I installes it using synaptic
[04:47] <transparentdream> and i can't find it
[04:48] <h17m4n> I wish macromedia was nice enough to make an amd64 version of flashplayer
[04:48] <Tzi> transparentdream: What can't you find? /usr/share/quake2?
[04:48] <transparentdream> I can;t find how to run it...
[04:48] <Tzi> Have you tried 'quake2'? :P
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> you need the data files from the comercial quake2 I think. dont ya?
[04:49] <bob2> hint: /usr/games/
[04:49] <dereks> is there a way to have apt clean up config files of a set of packages (ie if i wanted to have it use default config files for pkgx pkgy and pkgz, is there a way to do that)?
[04:49] <Tzi> Yep, you do
[04:49] <bob2> dereks: sure, man apt-get; hint: --purge
[04:49] <bob2> or use aptitude
[04:49] <transparentdream> Well, using synaptic I installed the quake 2 game and the data files it said
[04:49] <Tzi> I usually just apt-get install --reinstall...
[04:49] <dereks> bob2: thanks
[04:50] <Tzi> transparentdream: The game data is commercial, so you have to copy that in yourself..
[04:50] <Tzi> See /usr/share/doc/quake2*/README
[04:50] <transparentdream> oh...
[04:50] <transparentdream> how do i do that?
[04:50] <bob2> Tzi: that does not touch config files at all
[04:50] <alex___> transparentdream, you're running ubuntu yeah?
[04:50] <bob2> it doesn't even restore config files that you "accidentally" delete
[04:50] <Tzi> bob2: Oh =) My mistake, hehe
[04:50] <transparentdream> yes
[04:50] <Tzi> It doesn't?
[04:50] <Madpilot> transparentdream: the only thing they've open-sourced is the engine, not the artwork & stuff
[04:50] <alex___> transparentdream, SYNAPTIC
[04:50] <skaja> i dont know what to do now
[04:50] <transparentdream> I have
[04:50] <h17m4n> when I first saw it in synaptic I thought the game was in there for free
[04:50] <transparentdream> YEah
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:51] <alex___> transparentdream, have you applied the extra repositories as per ubuntu guide (or whatever its called, the unofficial thing)?
[04:51] <transparentdream> yes i have
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> check out that first person shooter "cube" its kinda nifty
[04:51] <alex___> the documentation for the packages is actually quite good
[04:51] <bob2> you can get the shareware data for free
[04:51] <bob2> as in beer-money
[04:51] <Tzi> Dr_Willis: Is that in Ubuntu?
[04:51] <alex___> yeah, i'm doing taht now
[04:51] <mik3> HI BOB! =D
[04:51] <bob2> hi
[04:51] <alex___> have the CD but my CD drives are nackered :/
[04:52] <bob2> I should never have had "bob" in my nick
[04:52] <alex___> just interested to play a level for old times sake
[04:52] <juanej> how do i use a quodlibet .py plugin???
[04:52] <alex___> and to see if it runs at a decent speed on ubuntu
[04:52] <mik3> bob is a great name, i sometimes tell people my name is Bob Bobertson
[04:52] <skaja> is there a download to make my modem work
[04:53] <bob2> juanej: it has no documentation?  or user mailing list? or irc channel?
[04:53] <mik3> skaja : what kind of modem?
[04:53] <overture> mik3, change your lastname to just bob
[04:53] <bob2> skaja: is it an actual modem, or an internal winmodem?
[04:53] <sproingie> mik3: i work with a guy named brad bradley
[04:53] <juanej> bob2, i already read the documentation
[04:53] <h17m4n> is the ATI driver installed by ubuntu decent or is it needed to follow another one of those 5 page howtos?
[04:53] <juanej> i dont find a channel
[04:53] <skaja> its a hardware modem actionteck pci callwaiting modem
[04:53] <mik3> hmmm
[04:53] <bob2> h17m4n: unless you have a very good reason, just follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:53] <Tzi> Hehe... Bob.. Awesome
[04:53] <juanej> i put the py file in quodlibet/plugins but it doesnt seem to work
[04:53] <bob2> pci modems are rarely hardware modems
[04:54] <mik3> skaja : take the modem out, what do the chips say
[04:54] <mik3> bob2 : indeed
[04:54] <bob2> skaja: why are you so sure it's a hardware modem?
[04:54] <dereks> bob2: --purge allows the package and configs to be removed, i would then have to reinstall the packages/
[04:54] <bob2> yes
[04:54] <skaja> Lucent Venus chipset
[04:54] <mik3> haha
[04:54] <bob2> if it's something critical, 'sudo dpkg -P --force-depends blah ; sudo apt-get install blah' can be handy
[04:54] <bob2> lucent = winmodem
[04:54] <mik3> lucent == winmodem
[04:55] <mik3> haha
[04:55] <mik3> <3 bob
[04:55] <skaja> http://start.at/modem
[04:55] <mik3> skaja : download a program called ltmodem
[04:55] <dereks> bob2: i was considering doing it to gdm/gnome :)
[04:55] <skaja> my is hardware
[04:55] <mik3> no
[04:55] <bob2> gnome has no usefu lconfig files to remove
[04:55] <mik3> it's winmodem
[04:55] <bob2> gdm might be usefully purged and reinstalled, if you edited them and broke them
[04:55] <dereks> bob2: but aren't there global configs?
[04:55] <mik3> anything with lucent = winmodem, if you wish to oppose our skills, then have fun trying to get your 'hardware modem' to work
[04:56] <bob2> dereks: for what?
[04:56] <bob2> skaja: that website does not appear to be accessible
[04:56] <dereks> bob2: gnome
[04:56] <mik3> skaja : i am on a winmodem dialing to aol on linux, you would think i know this
[04:56] <skaja> http://linmodems.org/
[04:56] <bob2> dereks: gnome consists of about 5 000 000 little programs
[04:57] <dereks> haha
[04:57] <mik3> yes that site will suffice, ltmodem = what you want
[04:57] <bob2> dereks: if your problem is that gnome does weird things as your user, reinstalling it is absolutely not going to help
[04:57] <dereks> bob2: when I go to apt-get --purge remove gdm, it takes gnome with it
[04:57] <bob2> yes
[04:57] <bob2> 12:54:54           bob2 | if it's something critical, 'sudo dpkg -P --force-depends blah ; sudo apt-get install blah' can be handy
[04:58] <dereks> bob2:   oh, gotcha
[04:58] <wulfy814> anyone install on a Dell PE700?
[04:58] <wulfy814> it's blowing up on me during the install
[04:58] <wulfy814> unable to load modules from cd
[04:58] <skaja> here is a link to my modem http://actiontec.com/support/modems/cwi.html
[04:58] <bob2> wulfy814: is the CD sorted?
[04:59] <Tzi> wulfy814: I had that issue ones =) CD was busted
[04:59] <wulfy814> bob2: Tzi: cd is known good
[04:59] <thrush> wulfy814, can you do a server install?
[04:59] <wulfy814> let me get the specific error
[05:00] <wulfy814> thrush: that's what I'm attempting :-)
[05:00] <wulfy814> SATA drives
[05:00] <mik3> skaja : dude, download a program called ltmodem, you have a win modem, you need to use ltmodem, download it, thanks, buh-bye.
[05:00] <mik3> holy crap bob, good thing we're getting paid for this.
[05:00] <mik3> oh, wait..
[05:01] <skaja> i download the debian verson of ltmodem right
[05:01] <mik3> yeah?
[05:01] <mik3> and?
[05:02] <juanej> Plugins dont work with my quodlibet!!! where they have to go?
[05:02] <skaja> ok how do  install it
[05:02] <thrush> skaja, what is the full filename?
[05:03] <skaja> ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386_8.31a11_i386.deb
[05:03] <wulfy814> thrush: bob2: Tzi: ok specific error: "Load installer components from CD - Installation step failed"
[05:04] <mik3> skaja : what does dpkg -i ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386_8.31a11_i386.deb do?
[05:04] <Paradoxx> what rss readers do you all use?
[05:04] <Paradoxx> or recommend
[05:04] <cyphase> how do you kill beagled gracefully?
[05:04] <skaja> dont know not on linux
[05:04] <mik3> ...
[05:04] <cyphase> Paradoxx, Liferea is good
[05:05] <mik3> get on linux and try it?
[05:05] <cyphase> so is Blam, but i prefer Liferea
[05:06] <bob2> I use planet to read rss
[05:06] <Paradoxx> is it on apt-get?
[05:06] <Paradoxx> cause i couldn't get it
[05:06] <skaja> oh brb
[05:06] <bob2> liferea is
[05:06] <bob2> planet is not
[05:08] <Paradoxx> gettin it now, i'll try it out?
[05:08] <Paradoxx> what is so special about either of them?
[05:08] <bob2> I like planet because I can use it from anywhere
[05:08] <misterdiff> hi all
[05:09] <wulfy814> no ideas on my "Load installer components from CD" problem?
[05:09] <bob2> and it means one less dodgy C# or python gtk program running
[05:09] <bob2> wulfy814: if you're really sure the cd is fine, file a bug I guess
[05:09] <Paradoxx> what you mean you can use it anywhere??
[05:09] <zdennis|away> 'top' is only showing me half of the system memory i have installed...
[05:10] <Paradoxx> aswell as the commen about the python/gtk thing
[05:10] <misterdiff> i'm having problems playing mp3 files with rhythmbox. i've got a pretty big collection of mp3s and xmms just will not due for playing my jukebox. everytime i try to import something to rhythmbox it says it has no plugin for mp3
[05:10] <zdennis|away> any ideas why that would be?
[05:10] <misterdiff> anyone know a fix for this?
[05:10] <bob2> Paradoxx: planet is what runs planet.debian.org, etc
[05:10] <bob2> Paradoxx: it aggregates rss feeds int oa webpage
[05:10] <bob2> zdennis|away: and the amount of ram you think you have is...
[05:10] <zdennis|away> misterdiff, i dont use rhythmbox, but is there an option to view the plugins?
[05:11] <zdennis|away> bob2, I have 1.5Gb
[05:11] <aeruder> zdennis|away: do a 'free'
[05:11] <zdennis|away> it shows 900
[05:11] <bob2> misterdiff: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:11] <zdennis|away> Mb
[05:11] <bob2> zdennis|away: it shows 896MB
[05:11] <bob2> zdennis|away: what CPU?
[05:11] <Demon_stroke> hey guyz, how do i create a second partition on Linux, so i can dual boot 2 o's?
[05:11] <zdennis|away> AMD Athlon XP 1800
[05:11] <misterdiff> zdennis|away, not that i see. what do you use for mp3 organization?
[05:11] <bob2> Demon_stroke: same as you would in any other OS
[05:11] <bob2> zdennis|away: sudo aptitude install linux-k7, reboot
[05:11] <Demon_stroke> im a linux moron and cant figure out how to partition
[05:11] <bob2> zdennis|away: the default -386 kernel does no support HIGHMEM, which means ram is cut off at 896MB
[05:11] <bob2> Demon_stroke: you have unallocated space on the disk?
[05:12] <zdennis|away> ah
[05:12] <zdennis|away> thanks bob2
[05:12] <zdennis|away> you are a life saver =)
[05:12] <Demon_stroke> bout 9 gigs i think
[05:12] <zdennis|away> i almost couldn't open my 35th app
[05:14] <Demon_stroke> so how do i make it so i can dual boot
[05:14] <zdennis|away> u edit your bootloader configuration file
[05:14] <h17m4n> how to I delete this file: /usr/local/bin/java
[05:14] <zdennis|away> /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:14] <h17m4n> is it just del like windoze?
[05:15] <zdennis|away> h17m4n, sudo rm /usr/local/bin/java
[05:15] <h17m4n> thx
[05:15] <Demon_stroke> i need to make a partition and i also dunno wut i need to do to the boot loader thingy
[05:15] <zdennis|away> it would be "rm /usr/local/bin/java" but it is probably owned by root. so that is why you need to sudo
[05:15] <zdennis|away> do you have windows installed, or are you installing windows?
[05:16] <Pickle_Weasel> how do i make the panel flash when i get a message in Gaim? =\
[05:16] <Demon_stroke> i want to install windows
[05:16] <Pickle_Weasel> i've asked this before, and didn't write it down like a moron
[05:17] <aeruder> Pickle_Weasel: look at the plugins in the preferences
[05:17] <aeruder> i'm sure you'll find something in there if nowhere else
[05:17] <zdennis|away> Demon_stroke, you will want to write down the location of your /boot partition before you install
[05:17] <Pickle_Weasel> no, it's not that, it was somewhere on the forums
[05:17] <zdennis|away> Because windows will overwrite your Grub boot loader,
[05:17] <Pickle_Weasel> some complicated nonsense
[05:17] <zdennis|away> and you'll have to fix it later
[05:17] <Demon_stroke> ok
[05:17] <Demon_stroke> so first off
[05:18] <Demon_stroke> how do i partition in linux
[05:18] <zdennis|away> Pickle_weasel, Preferences > Plugins > Message Notification
[05:18] <thrush> Demon_stroke, sudo cfdisk /dev/hda or b or .. but you can create the partition during the windows install
[05:18] <zdennis|away> Demon_stroke, i use fdisk,  so "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"
[05:19] <kcidx> Anyone using breezy with the fglrx driver?
[05:19] <zdennis|away> would typically work on a normal system
[05:19] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[05:19] <Demon_stroke> well if i can create a partition during windows install,
[05:19] <Pickle_Weasel> that gives me a sound
[05:19] <Pickle_Weasel> but no flashing
[05:19] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: you keepin linux?
[05:19] <Demon_stroke> yeh im keepin it, i cant play my porn so im gonne learn to dual boot win98 SE, gotta play my vids lol
[05:20] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: they tell you about qtparted?
[05:20] <Agrajag> Demon_stroke: uh, install VLC?
[05:20] <Nalioth> porn plays fine in linux
[05:20] <zdennis|away> Pickle_weasel send me an IM....aim name: sapenchant
[05:20] <Demon_stroke> ok so i can partition during windows install, ok how about, the dual booting,
[05:20] <Nalioth> dvdjon keeps gifting us with new codecs
[05:21] <zdennis|away> Demon_stroke, if you have unused hard drive space
[05:21] <Demon_stroke> my codecs wont install on linux because its being a bitch right now
[05:21] <EE|Bullz> I have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them?
[05:21] <zdennis|away> you can create it
[05:21] <Cody`> does anyone know how I add an fstab entry to automatically mount a floppy image on  bootup on a loopback device?
[05:21] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: if you don't want to reinstall linux, ask about qtparted
[05:21] <Demon_stroke> ok im asking about Qtparted, wdf is that?
[05:22] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: qtparted will allow you to shrink your linux partition so you have free space for the Other
[05:22] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: it will do it w/o destroying your stuff
[05:22] <Paradoxx> Pickle_Weasel: did you figure how to do it?
[05:22] <Demon_stroke> how do i perform this,
[05:23] <Pickle_Weasel> nay
[05:23] <zdennis|away> Pickle_Weasel, send me another iM
[05:23] <zakame> ei!
[05:23] <EE|Bullz> I have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them?
[05:23] <zakame> how do I burn an audio cd in ubuntu?
[05:24] <Nalioth> zakame: use k3b
[05:24] <EE|Bullz> >,<
[05:24] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: you need to apt-get qtparted
[05:24] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: then it's easy (it works very much like partition magic)
[05:24] <zakame> Nalioth, is that in universe?
[05:25] <Paradoxx> Pickle_Weasel: if you figure out how to do it, can you tell me also please
[05:25] <Pickle_Weasel> will do
[05:25] <dereks> can someone look in there .dmrc file, and tell me what it should have
[05:25] <EE|Bullz> does anyone know whats wrong with my problem?
[05:25] <EE|Bullz> or should i just install another core
[05:26] <Cody`> does anyone know how I add an fstab entry to automatically mount a floppy image on  bootup on a loopback device?
[05:26] <Nalioth> !info k3b
[05:26] <ubotu> k3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB
[05:26] <marx_> hello.. how can i read an usb flash drive on ubuntu?
[05:26] <Demon_stroke> hey nailoth, if i download anothermedia player for linux, and then install that, will my codecs work
[05:27] <EE|Bullz> has a problem
[05:27] <skaja_> well i tryed to un pack the file but that did not work
[05:27] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: no
[05:27] <Demon_stroke> so ur saying theres like no hope for my codecs playing
[05:27] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: vlc plays most everything by default, but will not allow your other programs play those files
[05:28] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: yes, you just need to get them into that folder
[05:28] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change the preferred player for movies on my computer?
[05:28] <Nalioth> skpl: system > prefs > preferred apps
[05:28] <Demon_stroke> cant i make myself a supa user, then just copy and paste
[05:28] <Pickle_Weasel> Paradoxx
[05:28] <Pickle_Weasel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39776&page=3
[05:29] <skpl> Nalioth: there is no section for multimedia players
[05:29] <skaja_> linux never works right for me
[05:29] <Demon_stroke> vlc looks ok
[05:29] <Demon_stroke> why dont i just get that
[05:29] <skaja_> right click on the media file and add a new app
[05:30] <Nalioth> skpl: right click on your file in nautilus and change the properties that way
[05:30] <mik3> skaja whats the problem
[05:30] <Demon_stroke> hey which vlc do i download, i see suse, red hat, no ubuntu though
[05:30] <skaja_> it keeps giving me cant unpack error
[05:30] <misterdiff> any of you guys using oo2? if so, do you have the spell checker, dictionaries, or any of the addons working?
[05:30] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: use synaptic
[05:30] <zakame> wtf? 'tis k3b not in the hoary cd?
[05:31] <skaja_> non of them debian
[05:31] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: 99% of what you want is available using synaptic
[05:31] <Nalioth> zakame: k3b is a kde app
[05:31] <zakame> heh
[05:31] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: what codecs are you using that you can't find in Synaptic?
[05:31] <zoexii> hello, is there a channel for wine?  what is it called?
[05:31] <zdennis|away> Pickle_Weasel, send me another IM can you
[05:31] <Demon_stroke> should i just dl the mandrake one?
[05:31] <Nalioth> zoexii: try #wine
[05:31] <zdennis|away> so i can test it
[05:32] <Madpilot> zakame: k3b is in the repos though, and it works in Ubuntu
[05:32] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: vlc is in the repos
[05:32] <Nalioth> !tell Demon_stroke about sources
[05:32] <Demon_stroke> madpilot:the essential codec pack
[05:32] <zoexii> Nalioth: yeah, there's only one other dude in there, and he isn't talking
[05:32] <Skaja> is there a diffrent way to install li moedmes
[05:33] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <-- what you need isn't mentioned here?
[05:33] <Demon_stroke> madpilot i wen through all that but i cannot install the codecs that i downloaded, ive tried lotsa stuff
[05:33] <z|bandito> hello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)
[05:34] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: if you install the codecs mentioned on that page via Synaptic or apt-get, they'll auto-install when you select them...
[05:35] <Skaja> mik3 is there a diffrent way to um pack and install it
[05:35] <Demon_stroke> they dont show in snaptic and apt-get i dont think ive tried
[05:35] <thrush> Demon_stroke, have you edited your sources.list file yet?
[05:35] <mik3> Skaja : im sorry i'm relatively drunk, did you do dpkg -i filename.deb?
[05:35] <Demon_stroke> sources.list? why do i have to edit that
[05:36] <thrush> Demon_stroke, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list just uncomment all the entries
[05:36] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: if you read all the things that are sent to you, you'd be watching pR0n already
[05:36] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: follow that RestrictedFormats page carefully. you have to add new repos to your list...
[05:36] <mik3> session
[05:36] <mik3> Skaja : im sorry i'm relatively drunk, did you do dpkg -i filename.deb?
[05:37] <Skaja> yes
[05:37] <EE|Bullz> I have a question, Some of my files are password protected for no reason after i installed a program, how can i access them? i really need someone to answer this for a file i have to print
[05:37] <z|bandito> passworded or you do not have access privilidges, EE|Bullz ?
[05:38] <EE|Bullz> it says
[05:38] <Pickle_Weasel> can someone tell me what the repository i need to add for packages.ubuntu.com is?
[05:38] <EE|Bullz> i do not have the privilidges
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell Pickle_Weasel about repos
[05:39] <KillerKiwi2005> Is Klick going to be in breezy?
[05:39] <Skaja> !tell skaja about dpkg
[05:39] <z|bandito> ok, open a terminal window
[05:39] <EE|Bullz> ok
[05:39] <EE|Bullz> let me go onit
[05:40] <EE|Bullz> one sec
[05:40] <Skaja> mik3  'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'
[05:40] <mik3> Skaja : i have gotten ltmodem to work on multiple systems, from FreeBSD, Solaris, Linux distros, you need to find some documentation and try to make it work, or go buy a modem that doesn't have a lucent chipset
[05:40] <mik3> Skaja : does that work?
[05:40] <z|bandito> it\s in applications- system tools
[05:40] <z|bandito> then you have to know your own password to get root privs
[05:41] <mik3> Skaja : does that work?
[05:41] <z|bandito> type sudo chown FILENAME YOUR-USERNAME
[05:41] <Skaja> will find out soon
[05:41] <Demon_stroke> ok guyz the codec thingy hoary ectras doesnt work because my linux isnt running windows on it
[05:41] <z|bandito> then enter your password, and it should change it to you owning it.. if you can't open it at that point, do sudo chmod 644 FILENAME
[05:41] <EE|Bullz> one sec z band
[05:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> chown username.group filename
[05:41] <z|bandito> i think that should work
[05:41] <z|bandito> ok
[05:41] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: huh? that made very little sense...
[05:42] <z|bandito> Kamping_Kaiser has it correct i think :)
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> trust me this once
[05:42] <z|bandito> lol
[05:42] <z|bandito> you have to specify a group?
[05:42] <Demon_stroke> the line in the restricted formats area (http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted) wont work cuz i dont have internet in there
[05:42] <bullz> z|band im on my other comp now
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's optional
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i always do
[05:42] <z|bandito> i see :)
[05:43] <bullz> how do i handle this?
[05:43] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: how did you get the other packages you've been trying without internet to your Ubuntu computer?
[05:43] <LaserJock> hi all! does anybody know how to change the color of the font on the desktop icons in gnome?
[05:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> when you have a multi user system getting grouips wrong is a pita :)
[05:43] <Demon_stroke> downloaded them using my xp then burned them to a disk
[05:44] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: how about getting net connection working on your Ubuntu box first? it'll be much, much easier to do the rest of this after that...
[05:45] <Demon_stroke> its not possible to just download them here then use synaptic, cuz that comp is all the way in my room, and moving it out here would be a bitch
[05:45] <zoexii> hey, the winehq channel is dead, maybe someone here knows something.  I am trying to install DvdDecrypter and get an error: "Error writing to Temporary file.  Make sure your temp folder is valid."  How can I fix?
[05:45] <Nalioth> Demon_stroke: 100m of cat5 runs about $20
[05:45] <dereks> can anyone tell me if this is important (from my .xsession-errors)                     (gnome-panel:6312): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/panel/toplevels/bottom_panel_screen1/screen' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x810c970
[05:46] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: Synaptic depends on online repositories to work...
[05:46] <thrush> Demon_stroke, you could always google for ubuntuaddon.zip contains a script and packages for common things
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Madpilot: not as such
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> just it's a lot easyer
[05:46] <Demon_stroke> i dont know wut that is nalioth
[05:46] <bob2> Demon_stroke: install and examine the apt-zip package
[05:47] <Demon_stroke> wuts the apt zip package
[05:47] <Madpilot> Demon_stroke: cat5 is network cable
[05:47] <ducky> where can I get a binary package for bluefish?
[05:47] <bob2> Demon_stroke: dude
[05:47] <bob2> ducky: from ubuntu...
[05:47] <bob2> Demon_stroke: 13:46:56           bob2 | Demon_stroke: install and examine the apt-zip package
[05:47] <bullz> does anyone know how i can access my files.. its password proteccted.. what do i do -.-
[05:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> bullz: put in your password?
[05:47] <ducky> bob2, apt-get install bluefish doesn't work
[05:47] <bullz> it doesnt ask me to
[05:48] <bullz> it just says i do not have the privlidges
[05:48] <bob2> bullz: can you be more vague?
[05:48] <bob2> bullz: e.g. don't tell us what files you mean, or what you're trying to do, or how you're accessing them
[05:48] <bullz> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "history".
[05:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ducky: what's bluefish?
[05:48] <bob2> ducky: well, it's in ubuntu, in universe
[05:48] <bullz> bob is that enough ?
[05:48] <Nalioth> Kamping_Kaiser: bluefish is a text based html editor
[05:48] <bullz> i copied it off the error
[05:48] <ducky> bob2, http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/download.html
[05:49] <bob2> ducky: ignore that
[05:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok thanks Nalioth. new the name was familiar :)
[05:49] <bob2> bullz: when doing what?
[05:49] <bullz> trying to open the folder
[05:49] <bob2> "the folder"?
[05:49] <bob2> no one else can see your screen
[05:49] <bullz> the name of the folder is called history
[05:49] <bob2> dude
[05:49] <bob2> stop
[05:50] <bob2> it's not just called "history"
[05:50] <ducky> does anyone know where there is a binary for the code editor bluefish?
[05:50] <bob2> where is it?
[05:50] <bob2> ducky: it's in ubuntu
[05:50] <bullz> Desktop
[05:50] <bob2> ducky: did you not enable universe yet?
[05:50] <Madpilot> ducky: bluefish is in Universe
[05:50] <Nalioth> ducky: in the repos
[05:50] <ducky> I don't know what universe is
[05:50] <bob2> ducky: then say so
[05:50] <bob2> ducky: ignoring help you don't understand is fairly suboptimal
[05:50] <ducky> apt-get install bluefish should work I would think
[05:50] <Nalioth> ducky: read your mail from the bot
[05:51] <bob2> ducky: not unless you told apt about the universe repository
[05:51] <bob2> ducky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:51] <bullz> bob2: it's on my desktop ...
[05:51] <bullz> its a folder with an x and a lock on it
[05:51] <bob2> bullz: and how did it get there?
[05:51] <bullz> i put it there
[05:51] <Hentai^NT> ok that makes sence about the noob thing now
[05:52] <bullz> why is it bad to have it on desktop?
[05:52] <bob2> bullz: and how did you put it there?
[05:52] <bob2> what is it?
[05:52] <bullz> saved it off of firefox
[05:52] <bob2> which means....
[05:53] <bullz> and it saved there as default
[05:53] <bullz> and i extracted it there
[05:53] <mik3> to walk, or not to walk, that is the question
[05:53] <Dr_Net> hello, dear users of linux ^^
[05:54] <Dr_Net> anybdoy willing to help me with drivers to my laptop's touchpad?
[05:54] <bullz> bob2: should i extract somewhere else
[05:55] <h17m4n> did any of you guys install blackdown-j2re1.4 for amd64?
[05:56] <ducky> bob2, thanks
[05:56] <Paradoxx> Pickle_Weasel: you there m8?
[05:56] <ducky> bob2, that worked
[05:56] <Pickle_Weasel> aye
[05:56] <Pickle_Weasel> doing 20 things at once
[05:56] <JosephB> I need to delete a redundant entry in my gnome menu, it's not letting me just right click and delete the menu item either
[05:56] <Pickle_Weasel> >_<
[05:57] <Paradoxx> what source did you use to get the file?
[05:57] <Pickle_Weasel> um, hold
[05:57] <Pickle_Weasel> you mean for Gaim?
[05:58] <Paradoxx> yep
[05:58] <JosephB> yeah. i have 2 gaims menu items since i upgraded the package. ;)
[05:58] <Pickle_Weasel> i just followed the instructions
[05:58] <Pickle_Weasel> i'll walk you through it in PM if you like
[05:58] <JosephB> thanks PW
[05:58] <Pickle_Weasel> eh?
[05:58] <Pickle_Weasel> yw, i guess =o
[05:59] <Dr_Net> ppl, has anyone had problems with touchpads ?
[05:59] <JosephB> oh...you weren't talking to me :P
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> i was just about to point that out
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> but also to point out
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> i know how to solve your problem
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> and i can help you
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> and i can walk you through it in PM
[05:59] <Pickle_Weasel> -_-
[05:59] <Dr_Net> if you have, just send me the config file - that's all i'm begging for ^^
[06:00] <JosephB> if you can, i'd appreciate it.
[06:00] <Paradoxx> kk
[06:00] <Paradoxx> yes please
[06:00] <Pickle_Weasel> ok Paradoxx, let me finish with JosephB
[06:00] <Paradoxx> i'd appreciate it
[06:00] <Paradoxx> kk
[06:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> In some Distros I've used, you can cycle between desktop backgrounds. Is there a way to do that in UBuntu?
[06:01] <Paradoxx> Pickle_Weasel: you followed the instructions on the first page
[06:01] <Paradoxx> ??
[06:02] <billytwowilly> anyone good with graphics enough to turn this image: http://media.mawsonlakes.org/misc/theopencd30label.png into a 4.87 " by 4.87" image I can put on a cd cover with much less pain than the current one is providing me with?
[06:03] <billytwowilly> I need to print 200 of the cd labels for an installfest.
[06:03] <Pickle_Weasel> Paradoxx, yes sir
[06:03] <Pickle_Weasel> =)
[06:03] <Pickle_Weasel> those instructions indeed
[06:03] <Paradoxx> hmm
[06:03] <Paradoxx> kk
[06:03] <Pickle_Weasel> that's all you need to do
[06:04] <Carpe_Libertatem> In some distros I've used, you can cycle between desktop backgrounds. Is there a way to do that in Ubuntu?
[06:04] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: chbg
[06:05] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: there are other methods for changing wallpaper
[06:05] <Cody`> /home/cody/images/IllusionOS.img /media/IllusionOS msdos loop,auto 0 0
[06:05] <Cody`> why couldn't a regular user write to that?
[06:05] <robotgeek> Carpe_Libertatem: use feh and wrtire urself a funky script :)
[06:06] <Cody`> I can't get it set so a regular user can write to it
[06:06] <Cody`> :/
[06:06] <Pickle_Weasel> Paradoxx, did you figure it out?
[06:06] <Madpilot> billytwowilly: the GIMP should resize it without problems - you should add a label to NVU first though...
[06:06] <robotgeek> Carpe_Libertatem: wrtire/write
[06:06] <Paradoxx> kk, it seems to b going thru now now..
[06:06] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: yes, i use feh, and have written a script for myself
[06:06] <h08817> how can i remove grub from my mbr?
[06:06] <Paradoxx> i guess its cause i'm streaming somthing, and have azurues ope
[06:06] <Paradoxx> n
[06:06] <Paradoxx> i was gettin a host connection error b4
[06:07] <Paradoxx> but seems to b going thru now
[06:07] <Nalioth> h08817: windows boot floppy
[06:07] <Carpe_Libertatem>  Nalioth: I don't know how to write scripts. :-P
[06:07] <h17m4n> so I got this .deb named blackdown-j2re1.4_1.4.2+rc1_amd64 @homedir, how do I install it?
[06:07] <Cody`> dpkg -i bob.deb
[06:07] <CCFIEL> hello ppl..
[06:07] <h08817> Nalioth, it is installed on a win98
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> i installed linux last week, i am a linux noob, i come in here for help
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> i end up helping people
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> wtf eh
[06:08] <Nalioth> h08817: a windows boot floppy will clean the mbr
[06:08] <CCFIEL> does anybody here used gdesklets...starterbar..desklet?
[06:08] <JosephB> and while i'm here...is there some crazy voodoo i need to learn to get my palm to sync? when i hotsync i can see it show up in the usb device manager, but gpilot just won't talk to it
[06:08] <h08817> Nalioth, so does it have to be a 98 boot floppy?
[06:08] <robotgeek> Carpe_Libertatem: hehe, a good time to learn!
[06:08] <h08817> Nalioth, and if so where can i get one?
[06:08] <Dr_Net> whoever had problems with touchpads on laptops, would you send me your config file?
[06:08] <Dr_Net> or, PM me
[06:08] <Demon_stroke> hey, is there a media player that will play (without me having to install codecs), videos and musik
[06:08] <Nalioth> h08817: use your win98 to make one
[06:08] <mushtaq> hi i have install kubuntu on powerpc but i cannot enter X as default i have to type startx everytime how to change that /
[06:09] <mushtaq> ?
[06:09] <back_east> h08817: bootdisk.com
[06:09] <Nalioth> h08817: put fdisk.com on it when it's made
[06:09] <h08817> then give the cmd fixmbr?
[06:09] <Nalioth> h08817: that is the fdisk.com in your c:/windows/ directory
[06:09] <Nalioth> h08817: you DID say win98, right?
[06:10] <mushtaq> hi i have install kubuntu on powerpc but i cannot enter X as default i have to type startx everytime how to change that ?
[06:10] <h08817> Nalioth, yes 98
[06:11] <Paradoxx> woot
[06:11] <Nalioth> h08817: make a boot disk, and find your fdisk.com you have in c:/windows/command and copy that onto it
[06:11] <Paradoxx> my gaim flashes now...
[06:11] <Nalioth> h08817: boot with the floppy, and type "fdisk /mbr", and that'll do it
[06:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> Nalioth: Could you help me with the script thing?
[06:12] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: use chbg
[06:13] <h17m4n> YAY!!!! I got blackdownjre amd64 plugin working on Firefox!!!!
[06:13] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: or google    ranwp.sh ubuntu
[06:13] <LathropWells> back_east hm interesting part message.
[06:13] <Dr_Net> Anybody had troubles with touchpads on laptops?
[06:13] <Nalioth> ok fellas. how to log into a gui instead of a console?
[06:14] <Dr_Net> msg me plz, i need just one config file =)
[06:14] <h08817> Nalioth, how do i know which version of 98 i have? i know i don't have se but i have custom and OEM to choose from
[06:14] <Nalioth> h08817: it doesnt matter
[06:15] <CCFIEL> does anybody here used gdesklets...starterbar..desklet?
[06:15] <Nalioth> CCFIEL: i use adesklets
[06:16] <CCFIEL> Nalioth: i like starterbar desklets.. have you used that?
[06:16] <Nalioth> CCFIEL: never heard of it. link?
[06:16] <h08817> Nalioth, ok thanks
[06:17] <billytwowilly> Madpilot, I didn't make it, someone else did, I'm just trying to get my crappy printer to print it on a white cd cover.
[06:17] <JosephB> Hal Device Manager sees Palm m500, gpilot won't talk to it. Added a udev rule for it in /etc/udev/rules.d -- Still can't sync
[06:17] <CCFIEL> Naliot: http://www.gdesklets.org/
[06:18] <fivetwentysix> Hi
[06:18] <fivetwentysix> How do I setup my mouse buttons such as my back and left button? I'm using a Logitech MX 518.
[06:19] <CCFIEL> naliot: i have tried the clock desklets.. and it was succefully display in my desktop..i want to put the starter bar..but it just put a black dot..
[06:20] <Nalioth> CCFIEL: gdesklets dont work for me
[06:20] <LathropWells> Dr_Net Hi patience and persistence will pay off.  spent the last hour fighting with cedega configuration for an ancient app.
[06:20] <ContinuumXLS> Hey, does anyone know of a good widows emulator? I want to run photoshop on my ubuntu
[06:20] <CCFIEL> Nalioth: why what's wrong?
[06:22] <LathropWells> !emulator
[06:22] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, LathropWells
[06:23] <LathropWells> !emulation
[06:23] <ubotu> LathropWells: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:23] <thedevilsjester> What is a good IDE avilable in ubuntu's apt?  (i.e. anjuta, etc...)
[06:23] <ContinuumXLS> I want to install photoshop on my ubuntu...what is the best way of going about it?  is it even possible?
[06:23] <thedevilsjester> Continuum, use Wine or CrossOver
[06:24] <h08817> why install photoshop? thats what the gimp is
[06:24] <ContinuumXLS> I know photoshop
[06:24] <thedevilsjester> gimp sucks, it really does, use Pixel32 its much better
[06:24] <ContinuumXLS> I think i installed wine already
[06:24] <thedevilsjester> if you want native that is
[06:24] <h08817> good for u i wish i knew photoshop
[06:24] <ContinuumXLS> haha
[06:24] <thedevilsjester> Pixel32 is really nice, I would check it out
[06:24] <ContinuumXLS> how do I run wine?
[06:24] <Carpe_Libertatem> Isn't Adobe developing a PS for Linux?
[06:25] <thedevilsjester> type  wine <app.exe>
[06:25] <h08817> where do u get pixel32 from?
[06:25] <fivetwentysix> How do I setup my mouse buttons such as my back and left button? I'm using a Logitech MX 518.
[06:25] <LathropWells> Contin, - it is possible  crossover office, cedega or vmware may be worth a try.
[06:25] <aru> wasn't there a project for a bit to make the Gimp interface more like Photoshop?
[06:25] <thedevilsjester> pixel32.box.sk
[06:25] <Madpilot> aru: GimpShop, I think it's called. ask google
[06:25] <thedevilsjester> its like photoshop but cross platform
[06:25] <aru> thats what it is
[06:26] <LathropWells> Conti, - Google a bit and see what other people say about it.
[06:26] <JosephB> how the mighty have fallen..
[06:26] <thedevilsjester> anyone know of a good IDE thats in apt?
[06:26] <ContinuumXLS> Thedevilgester: Thanks!
[06:27] <LathropWells> GIMP is very powerful. - the interface is just plain awful.
[06:27] <thedevilsjester> what ContinuumXLS ?
[06:27] <fivetwentysix> What's the shortcut to open terminal?
[06:27] <ContinuumXLS> thanks for telling me
[06:27] <thedevilsjester> You look at Pixel32?
[06:28] <h17m4n> man... I spent 2 days trying to install ndiswrapper+broadcom.... and now I'm installing packages in minutes... wow... yesterday I didn't think it was so easy
[06:28] <thedevilsjester> Yeah GIMP has many features but its interface leaves alot to be desired
[06:28] <JosephB> I love GIMP. Yes, the interface isn't all that intuitive, is it?
[06:28] <h17m4n> java is working, limewire is workin, WOW
[06:28] <LathropWells> "GIMPshop" - new interface for GIMP   great idea
[06:28] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[06:29] <thedevilsjester> 282 people and know one knows of a good ide in apt? :P
[06:29] <h17m4n> some are noobs
[06:29] <h17m4n> well
[06:29] <aeruder> thedevilsjester: vim
[06:29] <h17m4n> at least I am
[06:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Are they all "people"?
[06:29] <JosephB> working on it, tdj....i had one installed the other day before i wiped and started over
[06:29] <aeruder> thedevilsjester: works for me ;)
[06:29] <thedevilsjester> aeruder, I said a GOOD ide :)
[06:29] <aru> wouldnt emacs be a good IDE?
[06:30] <thedevilsjester> I normally use anjuta
[06:30] <JosephB> Anjuta is what i used, yeah
[06:30] <aeruder> aru: that may work too
[06:30] <thedevilsjester> but its not in apt and I dont feel like a long compile
[06:30] <aeruder> linux has had two pretty awesome ides for a long time now ;)
[06:30] <aru> theres xEmacs isn't there?
[06:30] <fivetwentysix> What's the shortcut to open terminal?
[06:30] <Agrajag> thedevilsjester: what, yes it is
[06:30] <CCFIEL> does anybody use gdesklets... i have tried the clock desklets module.. and it was succefully display in my desktop..i want to put the starter bar..but it just put a black dot.. how to configure starter bar..?
[06:30] <Agrajag> anjuta - A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++
[06:30] <JosephB> do you have the multiverse repos in your apt?
[06:30] <Agrajag> it's probably in universe
[06:31] <Agrajag> or multiverse
[06:31] <thedevilsjester> I did a search and it didnt show up...
[06:31] <aeruder> Section: universe/gnome
[06:32] <thedevilsjester> its not listed in Synaptic, does this front end not list everything or does it not actually use apt?
[06:32] <Madpilot> thedevilsjester: it's in Universe
[06:32] <Madpilot> !tell thedevilsjester about repos
[06:32] <thedevilsjester> Ah ok, not used to apt, used to portage :P
[06:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone know how to tell evolution what browser it should use when I click on a url in an email?  I'm running warty, and I replaced ubuntu's firefox with the version from the mozilla web page, but now clicking on a url in evolution doesn't do anything.
[06:33] <JosephB>  you will need to use the Hoary-extras repository. To use this, in the Synaptic repositories dialog box, click Add and then Custom. In the dialog box, type in the following APT line:
[06:33] <JosephB> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:34] <JosephB> okay...get that added to your repos, then do the search for anjuta again. it works.
[06:34] <Nalioth> synaptic and aptitude are frontends to apt-get
[06:34] <Nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: system > prefs > preferred apps
[06:35] <z|bandito> hello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)
[06:35] <thedevilsjester> got it, had to also select Universe from the settings dialog also (was unchecked)
[06:36] <thedevilsjester> Hmm I havent rebooted since install, does Ubuntu include a bootsplash by default?
[06:36] <Xatu> *falls down face first to the ground*
[06:37] <youngcoder> i hate samba
[06:37] <Xatu> *falls down face first to the ground*
[06:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Nalioth: Ah, I see. (But in warty, it looks like Computer->Desktop Preferences->Preferred Applications)
[06:37] <Xatu> *falls down face first to the ground*
[06:37] <h17m4n> talking about samba... how do I access a shared folder from my windoze pc?
[06:37] <Xatu> *falls down face first to the ground*
[06:38] <youngcoder> h17m4n, thats what is so bad about it
[06:38] <h17m4n> heh
[06:38] <youngcoder> h17m4n, i cant figure it out and things arent where they are supposed to be :)
[06:38] <ContinuumXLS> i downloaded and installed WINE, but I cant find it! how do I run it??
[06:38] <youngcoder> !wine
[06:38] <youngcoder> hmm
[06:38] <h17m4n> I tried smb://192.168.1.10X/folder and it wouldnt work
[06:39] <youngcoder> ya i tried that also
[06:39] <thedevilsjester> ContinuumXLS, just open a terminal and type 'wine /path/to/app/name.exe'
[06:39] <youngcoder> http://www.math.temple.edu/computing/samba.html#install   ....   this is what im using
[06:39] <h17m4n> isn't there a different app to do this?
[06:39] <youngcoder> h17 nope not that i know of
[06:40] <ContinuumXLS> i dont know the path to it
[06:40] <ContinuumXLS> i searched for it
[06:40] <Drajka> K.. I'm trying to install/compile Xine.. but.. I"m a complete noob. And I don't know how. ;] 
[06:40] <Drajka> er
[06:40] <Drajka> well
[06:40] <Drajka> compile it .. and install it tha tis
[06:40] <ContinuumXLS> (how do you message by the way)
[06:40] <Drajka> I'll actually take any program that has mpg/mpeg decoders and plays video
[06:40] <Drajka> But...
[06:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Whoa, this is weird.  I'm trying to change the preferred browser, and I can't type more than two character in the field where I enter the command for the browser.  After typing fi, it clears itself.
[06:40] <h17m4n> k I bookmarked that page
[06:41] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm trying to type firefox
[06:41] <h17m4n> I'm gonna keep working on the codecs
[06:41] <h17m4n> x@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[06:41] <h17m4n> Reading package lists... Done
[06:41] <h17m4n> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:41] <h17m4n> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[06:41] <h17m4n> somehow that one won't work
[06:41] <Nalioth> ContinuumXLS: in a terminal type "which wine"
[06:42] <youngcoder> !tell ContinuumXLS about wine
[06:42] <Nalioth> h17m4n: no more pasting. use #flood or a pastebin. please
[06:42] <h17m4n> k sry
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> Nevermind... I had several copies of the "preferred apps" window open.
[06:42] <Madpilot> h17m4n: you need the Universe/Multiverse repos, probably. and use Synaptic, it's easier than apt-get...
[06:43] <Drajka> I need a program that plays videos
[06:44] <Drajka> or I need to install a mpg/mpeg decoder for totem?
[06:44] <Madpilot> !tell Drajka about restricted
[06:44] <Madpilot> Drajka: you need codecs - see the URL ubotu just sent you
[06:46] <cyphase> does anyone know of an easy to use server admin tool?
[06:46] <Nalioth> apokryphos has arrived
[06:46] <apokryphos> aloha
[06:46] <h17m4n> whats the package name for the mp3 codec?
[06:46] <apokryphos> h17m4n: gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:47] <h17m4n> thx
[06:47] <FibreOptic> how do you add kernel modules to load on startup?
[06:48] <brc_> hello
[06:48] <brc_> anybody know the current status of breezy network installer isos?
[06:49] <Drajka> ....
[06:49] <Drajka> Madpilot,
[06:49] <brc_> all I've been able to find is this, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/daily-installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ and the most recent iso is from the 12'th
[06:49] <Drajka> the apt line dosen't work
[06:49] <brc_> it fails with a message about missing kernel modules
[06:49] <Madpilot> Drajka: do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?
[06:50] <Nalioth> brc_: why do ou wnt a netboot image?
[06:50] <Drajka> Madpilot,  --
[06:50] <Drajka> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1842
[06:50] <brc_> Nalioth, no special reason, just want to install breezy
[06:51] <brc_> without installing hoary first
[06:51] <Madpilot> Drajka: w32codecs don't work on AMD64 installs, AFAIK
[06:51] <apokryphos> Drajka: you've got the line wrong there.
[06:51] <Rotund> hello
[06:51] <Rotund> I was wondering if anyone's use Breezy
[06:51] <Drajka> <.<
[06:51] <Rotund> How is it?
[06:51] <Drajka> so how can I fix it.
[06:51] <brc_> Nalioth, are there nightly builds of the full breezy isos?
[06:51] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Drajka about hoary-extras
[06:51] <brc_> if so, where...
[06:51] <Nalioth> brc_: get a fresh hot daily
[06:51] <cyphase> Rotund, i have it on my test machine
[06:51] <cyphase> it's good
[06:52] <Nalioth> brc_: they all update from the net anyway, during installation
[06:52] <Rotund> Is it fairly stable for day-to-day use?
[06:52] <brc_> "they"?
[06:52] <Nalioth> brc_: cdimage.ubuntulinix.org
[06:52] <Nalioth> crap
[06:52] <Nalioth> brc_: cdimage.ubuntulinux.org
[06:52] <Drajka> ........... ok
[06:52] <Drajka> and then
[06:52] <Drajka> what do i do
[06:52] <Drajka> after I get that..
[06:52] <Nalioth> brc_: get ya a fresh daily
[06:53] <cyphase> Rotund, i haven't had any crashes
[06:53] <Madpilot> Drajka: in Synaptic, hit the Reload button
[06:53] <Drajka> I did
[06:53] <Drajka> What do I download
[06:53] <FibreOptic> eh...found it.
[06:53] <Rotund> Is there any major bugs in Breezy still?  like Evolution corrupts all e-mail or something
[06:53] <FibreOptic> reboot, bbl
[06:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'm not getting chbg. I've added my pictures to the list, how do I set when it should change?
[06:53] <Madpilot> Drajka: now search for w32codec
[06:53] <brc_> I tell ya, when I was a lad we had nightlies, and we had to etch the bits into the cd by HAND
[06:54] <brc_> and WE LIKED IT!
[06:54] <apokryphos> Drajka: are you on i386?
[06:54] <Drajka> 64
[06:54] <Madpilot> brc_: thank you for our nightly dose of Python ;)
[06:54] <brc_> thanks Nalioth...be nice if that was linked from somewhere obvious
[06:54] <apokryphos> Drajka: there is no w32codecs, of course, for that (in case you're trying to get it).
[06:54] <Drajka> No, not trying to get that ;)
[06:54] <apokryphos> ok
[06:54] <Drajka> Trying to get anything that works.
[06:54] <Drajka> :] 
[06:55] <Rotund> Drajka: What file type?
[06:55] <Drajka> I'm a linux noob, but not a computer noob...
[06:55] <Drajka> mpg/mpeg
[06:55] <apokryphos> Drajka: so you don't know what you're trying to get?
[06:55] <Carpe_Libertatem>  I'm not getting chbg. I've added my pictures to the list, how do I set when it should change?
[06:55] <Madpilot> Drajka: now that you've got repos working, go back to that Restricted Formats page, it's got mpg info
[06:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Drajka about w32codecs
[06:55] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: there is a setting on hours/minutes/days
[06:55] <Fikrann> Hello
[06:56] <Rotund> Drajka: You don't need that.  just enable the community thingy.  Look under gstreamer-0.8 in synaptic
[06:56] <Rotund> Then Totem will just play them
[06:56] <Fikrann> Is Breezy still broken to the point X refuses to start up?
[06:56] <dabaR> hi
[06:56] <Carpe_Libertatem> Nalioth: Is it at "Properties"  at the top, where it says "Interval"?
[06:57] <thedevilsjester> Ok I am on a 64bit system trying to install Point2Play -small (the .deb file), but it complains about arch differences, anyone encounter this?
[06:57] <Drajka> woot.
[06:57] <Drajka> success
[06:57] <Drajka> thanks
[06:57] <Drajka> <3
[06:57] <Rotund> okay... he didn't even stay...
[06:57] <Rotund> WOW!
[06:58] <h17m4n> thedevilsjester, it must be a 386 arch
[06:58] <Rotund> yup
[06:58] <h17m4n> and you need a amd64/x86-64/ia-32 one
[06:58] <Rotund> You need to run the 32-bit version of Ubuntu
[06:58] <thedevilsjester> ile Description:
[06:58] <thedevilsjester> DEB format Point2Play 2.0.3 graphical frontend for Cedega. (requires: python >= 2.3, pygtk2, gtk2-engines, gtk2). Unsupported. Users who have a 64 bit distribution should use one of these small packages. If you have problems please try the appropriate large package. Created August 11th, 2005.
[06:59] <Rotund> hmmm... wow.
[06:59] <thedevilsjester> it works perfectly in gentoo64 bit, dont see why it shouldnt in ubunutu
[06:59] <sproingie> sigh.  someone is trying to brute force me on ssh ... getting all kinds of inbound port22 activity from a single ip
[06:59] <Rotund> I didn't think Wine worked under 64 bit linux
[06:59] <sproingie> is there a decent IDS tool i can use that will firewall attackers off automatically?
[06:59] <Rotund> sproingie: get them back =)
[06:59] <thedevilsjester> wine works perfectly under 64bit
[06:59] <Rotund> yup
[06:59] <brc_> Nalioth, know if the nightlies on http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ are mirrored anywhere?
[07:00] <sproingie> Rotund: it's probably just a zombie. no point.  just looking for a tool i can use to put the shields up automaticall
[07:00] <sproingie> y
[07:00] <brc_> it's not even starting it's so slow
[07:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Where's a place to get wallpapers besides deviantart?
[07:00] <Nalioth> brc_: it takes a week or two for them to filter out to the mirrors
[07:00] <brc_> blah
[07:00] <sproingie> Carpe_Libertatem: digitalblasphemy.com
[07:00] <z|bandito> hello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)
[07:00] <h17m4n> the divx4linux pack wont dl
[07:00] <Rotund> sproingie: I don't know a program, but I think you can set up iptables to automatically do it after so many attempts
[07:00] <Madpilot> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about themes
[07:00] <sproingie> Rotund: i don't really know anything about iptables
[07:01] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: there are OK (and some very good) wallpapers at most of those URLs ubotu just sent you
[07:01] <Milk_> Is there a way to tell what processes are running that are not allowing me to unmount a drive?
[07:01] <brc_> Carpe_Libertatem, http://www.caedes.net/   http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/
[07:01] <brc_> free..
[07:02] <sproingie> Rotund: i'm looking for an IDS that will write those iptables deny rules when it catches an attack
[07:02] <Rotund> sproingie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1820055#post1820055
[07:02] <Rotund> sproingie: built right into the kernel =)
[07:02] <thedevilsjester> is there anyway to tell if this deb is going to conflic with existing apps I have?
[07:03] <thedevilsjester> 32bit deb forced on 64bit arch
[07:03] <sproingie> Rotund: nifty.  thanks
[07:03] <sproingie> Rotund: is there any standard place to put iptables commands on startup?
[07:04] <Rotund> that's what I'm looking for
[07:05] <sproingie> hm, shorewall looks like something useful
[07:06] <thedevilsjester>  sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture ~/point2play-small_2.0.3_i386.deb
[07:06] <IcemanV9> what's version of bmp? 0.9.7?
[07:06] <thedevilsjester> seems to work fine, doesnt break anything, incase anywone was curious
[07:07] <brc_> hey Nalioth know of any mirrors that have semi-recent breezy dailies? I can't seem to find any
[07:07] <brc_> er, nevermind, odd... it just started to work
[07:07] <Rotund> sproingie: you make a new init.d script
[07:08] <Rotund> sproingie: this is shown at http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm
[07:08] <brc_> very strange...user limit?
[07:08] <Nalioth> brc_: search google for "colony-3 .iso"
[07:09] <brc_> k
[07:09] <sproingie> Rotund: thanks again
[07:09] <Rotund> n/a
[07:09] <Rotund> n/p
[07:10] <Rotund> sproingie: thank you.  I'm adding it to my server now =)
[07:15] <Gorth> is telling WINE to use XP dlls a good idea??
[07:15] <Gorth> the website discouraged NT :(
[07:15] <Nalioth> Gorth: it works better with win9x dlls
[07:15] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ugh, I wonder what idiot made the Weather Report app use a list of locations, rather than simply utilizing a zip code input box v_v
[07:16] <Gorth> nalioth, thanks!
[07:16] <Gorth> (how do i go about telling wine to use those :()
[07:16] <Gorth> i have a 98SE cd
[07:16] <Gorth> just no idea how to get from here to there!
[07:16] <Gorth> all my searches just say "you can do it" and not really HOW
[07:17] <Nalioth> Gorth: you don't dual boot?
[07:17] <Gorth> and also, are the 9x dlls that much better than the default wine?
[07:17] <Gorth> i do, but with XP
[07:18] <Nalioth> Gorth: many years ago (when i had intel boxen) i had a treble boot system
[07:18] <Nalioth> Gorth: i had win98se, win2k and linux
[07:18] <Gorth> :O
[07:18] <Nalioth> the win98se was only there for wine
[07:18] <Nalioth> Gorth: it was a minimal install (only there for the dlls)
[07:18] <Gorth> so i really need another partition?
[07:18] <Fikrann> Gorth, not every of the bazillion functions in that swarm of .dlls is yet rewritten and debugged in Wine.
[07:19] <Nalioth> Gorth: no new partition needed
[07:19] <Gorth> so getting the 98se dlls is a good idea (better than the defaults?)
[07:19] <Gorth> :O nalioth!
[07:19] <Gorth> how do i do it
[07:19] <Nalioth> win98 can exist on the same partition as your winxp. only thing is.. .. ..
[07:19] <Nalioth> installing win98 will eat your /mbr (no more booting linux)
[07:20] <Gorth> :O
[07:20] <Gorth> so what do i do?!
[07:20] <Fikrann> Gorth, I have installed 98se within wmware then copied dlls from it..
[07:20] <Nalioth> you'll need this if you isntall win98 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:21] <Nalioth> Gorth: know anyone running win98 on a networkable laptop?
[07:21] <Gorth> fikrann, that sounds like a good idea
[07:21] <Gorth> nalioth, no :(
[07:21] <Gorth> well
[07:21] <Fikrann> you can get vmware trial .. and it'll be far sufficent.
[07:21] <Gorth> wait
[07:21] <Gorth> probably not :(
[07:23] <thellama> how do install vlc? apt-get what?
[07:23] <Gorth> and my friend said w32codecs was removed??
[07:24] <thellama> anyone?
[07:24] <Fikrann> Gorth, its in multiverse
[07:24] <Nalioth> thellama: apt-get install vlc
[07:24] <thellama> doesn't work
[07:24] <Gorth> ah thanks fikrann
[07:24] <Toba> how can I mount an iso?
[07:25] <Toba> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to.iso /mountpoint
[07:25] <Fikrann> thellama, use your friendly apt front-end and search for 'vlc', that's what these frontends are.
[07:25] <Toba> is that right?
[07:25] <Fikrann> Toba, yes. Works for root only, though.
[07:25] <Toba> I'm running as root
[07:25] <Toba> and it says that the filesystem is wrong
[07:26] <Toba> is there a command to verify the integrity of an iso?
[07:26] <thedevilsjester> Lol one issue after another, ok xorg-x11-devel package usually contains the X headerfiles, where/what is this called in apt? or do I have to manually install it?
[07:26] <thedevilsjester> Toba md5sum
[07:26] <syn-ack> Toba: yeah, check the MD5 hashg
[07:26] <thedevilsjester> you need the original sum though
[07:26] <Toba> ...
[07:26] <Toba> that's no good
[07:26] <Toba> I used nrg2iso to get it from nrg
[07:26] <thellama> Fikrann: comes up with nothing...
[07:26] <thellama> maybe it's not checking on the net
[07:27] <surfdue> hi
[07:27] <thellama> only in my cd
[07:27] <Fikrann> Toba, you can use nautilus to 'open' the .iso.
[07:27] <Adross> does anyone here have a mic and is willing to help me make a commercial for english extension? If so, could you join #adross
[07:28] <thedevilsjester> anyone develop in here and use the X header files?  I need to know what package in apt installs them (normally this is xorg-x11-devel) but that doesnt exist in apt (atleast the repositories I have)
[07:28] <Toba> Fikrann: I'll try that.
[07:28] <Toba> it says error occured
[07:28] <Toba> which sucks
[07:29] <Gorth> what would ya'll recommend i do for windows emulation/running on linux?
[07:29] <Gorth> i have XP and 98 libs available
[07:29] <Adross> vmware?
[07:29] <Fikrann> Gorth, what you want to run in it?
[07:29] <Gorth> games, probably
[07:29] <thedevilsjester> wont run very fast
[07:30] <thedevilsjester> 1 FPS if you are lucky
[07:30] <Gorth> they're games like UO
[07:30] <thellama> how can I install vlc (video lan client)
[07:30] <Gorth> UO ran ok in WINE with a 586 color mode
[07:30] <Gorth> it was just all kinda blue
[07:30] <thedevilsjester> WINE is not an emulator
[07:30] <thedevilsjester> thats why
[07:30] <thedevilsjester> vmware and the likes are
[07:30] <Gorth> oh
[07:30] <thellama> that's what wine stands for ;)
[07:31] <thedevilsjester> wine only emulates windows api calls which are usually few and far between in the code of an app
[07:31] <Adross> thellama: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:31] <thellama> Adross: it doesn't find the package
[07:31] <thedevilsjester> the rest is just translated hardware calls
[07:31] <Adross> thellama: after enabling the universe reps
[07:31] <thellama> ah
[07:31] <thellama> how...
[07:31] <Adross> do you know how to enable universe?
[07:31] <anomaly> from the winehq website: Wine as a compatibility layer for running Windows programs. Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely free alternative implementation of the Windows API consisting of 100% non-Microsoft code, however Wine can optionally use native Windows DLLs if they are available
[07:32] <thellama> not really... (blushes)
[07:32] <Nalioth> !tell Adross about sources
[07:32] <Adross> thellama: one moment please
[07:32] <thellama> k
[07:33] <thedevilsjester> I am looking for the X.h file (and friends), anyone know which package in apt will install these?
[07:34] <Nalioth> thedevilsjester: what are you doing? to need X.h?
[07:34] <Adross> thellama: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:34] <thellama> thanks
[07:34] <Nalioth> thellama: please wait
[07:34] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[07:34] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:34] <Madpilot> !tell thellama about repos
[07:35] <thedevilsjester> Development
[07:35] <thedevilsjester> Using X11 Api
[07:35] <Nalioth> thedevilsjester: x-11 developement requires "xlibs-dev"
[07:36] <thedevilsjester> ah ok, its normally xorg-x11-devel (via source, rpm, portage, etc...), didnt notice xlibs-dev
[07:36] <Gorth> welp
[07:36] <Gorth> thanks guys!
[07:37] <pundai> hey how do i set up remote repositories/double check
[07:37] <thedevilsjester> that did the trick Nalioth thank you
[07:37] <Fikrann> Nalioth, do you happen to know if X is still hopelessly broken in Breezy?
[07:37] <skpl> can someone tell me how to install donkey?
[07:38] <pundai> i tried to install subversion but it asked for the cd
[07:38] <Nalioth> Fikrann: there is hope now (freeze is coming soon)
[07:38] <Fikrann> yay!
[07:38] <cyphase> is there a way to save a list of your installed applicatons?
[07:38] <Nalioth> Fikrann: i'd still wait a few weeks b4 i put it on a production machine
[07:38] <cyphase> so that you can install ubuntu and have apt/synaptic install all those apps for you
[07:39] <Madpilot> pundai: you can remove the CD from your list of repos in Synaptic
[07:39] <Nalioth> cyphase: yes, but i dont know how to do it (maybe open a terminal and type "dpkg --help" for a clue)
[07:39] <Fikrann> Nalioth, of course, but I'm going to switch hdds and check if I can get it going.
[07:39] <skpl> can someone tell me how to install mldonkey?
[07:39] <cyphase> skpl, apt-get install mldonkey
[07:39] <regeya> carefully.
[07:40] <skpl> E: Couldn't find package mldonkey
[07:40] <cyphase> then it's not in the repositories
[07:40] <skpl> how do i add it?
[07:40] <cyphase> at least no the ones you have enabled
[07:40] <pundai> Madpilot, ok
[07:40] <pundai> Madpilot, where/how
[07:40] <Nalioth> skpl: what does mldonkey do? what network does it operate on?
[07:40] <cyphase> skpl, mldonnkey-gui
[07:40] <cyphase> mldonkey-gui*
[07:40] <skpl> is that the only program i need?
[07:41] <cyphase> you can try amule
[07:41] <Madpilot> pundai: in Synaptic, open Settings -- Repositories - I think the CD is right at the top of the list of repos there
[07:41] <cyphase> or gtk-gnutella
[07:41] <skpl> what is amule?
[07:41] <cyphase> an eDonkey client
[07:41] <regeya> apt-cache search mldonkey
[07:41] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ugh, what's the key to make a tilde in Linux?
[07:42] <regeya> mldonkey-gui is in universe
[07:42] <cyphase> same as any other OS
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> When I try to make one it gives me `
[07:42] <cyphase> hold shift
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> I am!
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> :
[07:42] <regeya> shift?
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[07:42] <regeya> ~~~~
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> :-P
[07:42] <regeya> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[07:42] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: shift-` - top left corner of a standard keyboard - ~~~
[07:42] <regeya> w00t w00t
[07:42] <cyphase> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> ````````` is what I get
[07:42] <regeya> maana
[07:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> Well this is messed-up.
[07:42] <cyphase> try the other shift key
[07:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> Did
[07:43] <Nalioth> you guys forgot to ask Carpe_Libertatem what key bindings he's using
[07:43] <regeya> muy loco!
[07:43] <cyphase> your on ubuntu i assume
[07:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> Yes.
[07:43] <cyphase> i don't know then
[07:43] <brownie17> aftertaf: bob2 told me to do this sutff with my repos, and now i get an error everytime i open synaptic, it still works, but i wan to get rid of the error
[07:44] <regeya> h h
[07:44] <Nalioth> brownie17: what error (you can paraphrase)
[07:44] <brownie17> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:44] <brownie17> nalioth: oops
[07:44] <regeya> ~
[07:44] <brownie17> sorry everyone
[07:44] <brownie17> accident
[07:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> Well does anyone know how I can edit the actual keyboard layout?
[07:44] <regeya> what keyboard layout are you currently using?  what language did you install for?  etc.
[07:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> English US
[07:45] <brownie17> nalioth: what i accidnetly just pasted was the error
[07:45] <regeya> OOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
[07:45] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: system > prefs > keyboard
[07:45] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: System - Prefs - Keyboard
[07:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'm in there =P
[07:45] <Nalioth> brownie17: so i see
[07:45] <regeya> rock on...
[07:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> But, that's to switch between layouts, not actually edit a layout from what I see.
[07:45] <Nalioth> brownie17: dja use the sources list ubotu sent you?
[07:46] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: if you installed english, US, then somethings hosed your keybindings
[07:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> ~~ - I removed, and added again, works now
[07:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> v_v
[07:47] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: aren't computers fun? ;)
[07:47] <Carpe_Libertatem> The best. =P
[07:47] <brownie17> nalioth: um.. i think so. i can't really remember what i did, i was heaps tired
[07:48] <brownie17> !repos
[07:48] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:48] <apokryphos> brownie17: what's the error/problem?
[07:48] <Nalioth> apokryphos: 404 in synaptic
[07:48] <brownie17> apokryphos, if you look up, i accidently pasted it into this window
[07:48] <apokryphos> appears to be down
[07:49] <apokryphos> brownie17: try updating
[07:49] <Madpilot> http://archive.ubuntu.com is up...
[07:49] <brownie17> its updating
[07:50] <brownie17> apokryphos: nalioth: haha, i am bloody stupid
[07:50] <brownie17> it worked
[07:50] <brownie17> sorry for wasting your time
[07:51] <Nalioth> brownie17: we all suffer from that at times
[07:51] <apokryphos> =)
[07:51] <brownie17> i have another problem though
[07:52] <brownie17> nalioth: when i try to use smeg, it lets me hide things, but not add new ones to the menus, plus i cannot add new menus, they apear fine in smeg, but whe ni close it and restart the gnome panel, they aren't there
[07:52] <Nalioth> brownie17: you using it using "sudo" ?
[07:52] <regeya> smeg is a symptom of a larger problem.
[07:52] <brownie17> nalioth: yes
[07:52] <KillerKiwi2005> My SMEG has a "new entry" button
[07:53] <brownie17> yes.. i know
[07:53] <regeya> oh smeg!  what the smeggin hell is smeggin going on?
[07:53] <brownie17> i used it
[07:53] <brownie17> regeya: red dwarf????/
[07:53] <skpl> red dwarf? i love that show
[07:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> Hmm, I sorta found a bug. The Arabic QWERTY layout is not an Arabic QWERTY layout.
[07:53] <AdmiralCrunch> KIllerKiwi2005: Me too...
[07:53] <brownie17> nalioth: don't know whats wrong?
[07:54] <KillerKiwi2005> Wel it let me add a new itme just did it then
[07:54] <brownie17> did it appear in the actual gnome panel?
[07:54] <KillerKiwi2005> yes brand spanky new "Edonkey" icon
[07:55] <Nalioth> brownie17: sorry, no
[07:55] <brownie17> nalioth: ok, ill ask aftertaf
[07:55] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com, search first then file if you're sure about it
[07:55] <brownie17> aftertaf: when i create new mens and icons in SMEG, they don't appear in the menus
[07:55] <Nalioth> brownie17: there is a fella here named amaranth. he wrote it
[07:55] <brownie17> really? cool
[07:56] <brownie17> amaranth: hey, i've a problem with smeg, do you mind giving me a hand?
[07:56] <apokryphos> brownie17: he's not here now
[07:56] <brownie17> nalioth: is there a sort of remote assistance program, like in windows XP
[07:56] <brownie17> apokryphos: oh, i thought he meant he was here nwo
[07:56] <Nalioth> yes
[07:56] <brownie17> nalioth: whats it called?
[07:57] <Nalioth> brownie17: but better to retain control of your own system
[07:57] <brownie17> nalioth: yeah, but those things usually have a really easy way to cut anyone out don't they?
[07:57] <AdmiralCrunch> Anyone here use E17? If so how do you like it?
[07:57] <Nalioth> brownie17: it aint like windows
[07:58] <brownie17> nalioth: ok
[07:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone here know how to actually edit keyboard layouts?
[07:58] <bob2> e17 is rather incomplete
[07:58] <bob2> if you think you'd like it, just try it
[07:58] <Fikrann> AdmiralCrunch, E17 is nothing more but a bunch of unfinished source files now.
[07:58] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: to do what?
[07:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> bob2: I want to make the Arabic keyboard have a transliterated QWERTY layout. Same with Cyrillic.
[07:59] <brownie17> When i create new menus and icons in SMEG, they don't appear in the actual gnome menus. can anyone give me a hand?
[07:59] <AdmiralCrunch> Fikrann, I've noticed there is a lot of incomplete stuff in it, I like the look, but I love GNOME, I don't think I can easily part with it.
[08:00] <bob2> that's unlikely to be trivial
[08:00] <Nalioth> i hate permissions snafus on public servers (ftp.gnome.org says i dont have permission to access it's public server)
[08:00] <bob2> try #freedesktop
[08:00] <Fikrann> AdmiralCrunch, you can always use it instead of the gnome wm.
[08:00] <GroMmiT1982> Noob here: Can someone tell me if Ubuntu runs ok with AMD Athlon processors?
[08:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Yes it does
[08:01] <bob2> GroMmiT1982: of course it does
[08:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Do you have the XP or 64?
[08:01] <brownie17> grommit1982: you have to get a special version for 64bit proccessors i tihkn
[08:01] <bob2> no, you don't
[08:01] <AdmiralCrunch> There is a i386 build for XP and AMD64 for well, AMD64.
[08:01] <brownie17> bob2: oh ok, my mistake, oh ok
[08:02] <AdmiralCrunch> I have a AMD64 and I still use i386. Most software is complied for it already.
[08:02] <bob2> amd64 machines can run either the i386 or amd64 ports
[08:02] <brownie17> admiral crunch, but doesn't that mean your not using your processor to its full potential?
[08:03] <brownie17> admiralcrunch, but doesn't that mean your not using your processor to its full potential?
[08:03] <AdmiralCrunch> honestly, what application am I going to need 64 bit for
[08:03] <AdmiralCrunch> Its not needed right now
[08:03] <Nalioth> brownie17: no OS uses the processor to its full potential
[08:03] <brownie17> admiralcrunhc, then why did you buy one?
[08:03] <AdmiralCrunch> Because it was cheap and fast
[08:03] <brownie17> nalioth, but 64 versions more so, yes?
[08:03] <AdmiralCrunch> and I like AMD, Intel sucks
[08:03] <brownie17> intel does suck, ...... i have a celeron  (*is embarressed*)
[08:03] <Nalioth> brownie17: any of em, any OS
[08:04] <AdmiralCrunch> Also for the future, when 64-bit computing does come.
[08:04] <AdmiralCrunch> I will be ready
[08:04] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I show system stats in the terminal?
[08:04] <AdmiralCrunch> What kind of stats, processor, hd, all? What?
[08:04] <bob2> you wouldn't, generally, since it's pointless
[08:04] <brownie17> admiralcrunch: good thinking
[08:05] <Carpe_Libertatem> all
[08:05] <bob2> dmesg, free and /proc/cpuinfo and df -h would be buseful
[08:05] <AdmiralCrunch> remember to run those in sudo
[08:05] <bob2> no
[08:05] <bob2> don't run them with sudo
[08:06] <Madpilot> you don't need to run any of those in sudo to get results from them...
[08:06] <AdmiralCrunch> yeah, my bad.
[08:09] <erik> hey, using breezy; I can't seem to find the 'fixed' X font, did it move into a new package?
[08:10] <peterretief> how do i get a cron to run without any users logged on? use root
[08:10] <alexandros> can some help find my kde icons and of the programs I had in kubuntu now that I have converted it to ubuntu desktop?
[08:10] <bob2> peterretief: what?
[08:10] <bob2> peterretief: cron runs fine regardless of who is logged in
[08:10] <peterretief> ok
[08:10] <regeya> erik, you brave person, testing breezy.  I salute you.
[08:10] <Fikrann> erik, you need to edit your xorg.conf, font directories has been moved around.
[08:11] <erik> regeya: :D
[08:11] <peterretief> bob2: so the user for crontab is for .. logging?
[08:11] <erik> Fikrann: you know how exactly I need to tweak it (or a doc or something)?
[08:11] <AdmiralCrunch> I think I might upgrade to breezy soon, do you guys find it stable enough yet?
[08:11] <erik> or a way to just regen it from scratch would be fine too
[08:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> Whats a good FTP client?
[08:12] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: the file manage
[08:12] <bob2> r
[08:12] <AdmiralCrunch> gFTP
[08:12] <Nalioth> alexandros: /usr/share/pixmaps/
[08:12] <bob2> peterretief: I don't know what you're talking about
[08:12] <bob2> peterretief: stuff in my crontab runs as me
[08:12] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: you can do alot of FTP stuff right inside Nautilus - the file manager
[08:12] <alexandros> Look ed but they were not there!
[08:12] <erik> ah, here we go
[08:13] <bob2> alexandros: try #kubuntu
[08:13] <erik> it just didn't make a link to the misc/ dir.
[08:13] <erik> Excellent, thanks :)
[08:13] <Fikrann> erik, Nope, I forgot where they were moved (been several weeks since I last attempted to install Breezy) and the solution was trivial enough for me to find that I didn't memorize any details.
[08:13] <peterretief> so if i need root permissions to run a process I must create a crontab -e using root?
[08:13] <Nalioth> bob2: kubuntu is dead atm
[08:13] <bob2> shock
[08:13] <alexandros> thanks Nalioth
[08:13] <bob2> peterretief: if you really need root permissions...
[08:13] <peterretief> :)
[08:13] <alexandros> bob2: kubuntu is not as polished as ubuntu
[08:14] <bob2> as above
[08:14] <Nalioth> alexandros: it's all what you make of it
[08:14] <peterretief> thanks
[08:14] <peterretief> bob2:
[08:14] <AdmiralCrunch> I think I might upgrade to breezy soon, do you guys find it stable enough yet?
[08:14] <alexandros> nopw, I was really having problemss with kubuntu
[08:14] <bob2> AdmiralCrunch: wait until preview
[08:15] <alexandros> It would not let me change my ip address
[08:15] <bob2> sure it does
[08:15] <alexandros> and some toher things
[08:15] <peterretief> has breezy got good wireless management stuff
[08:15] <bob2> no
[08:15] <Fikrann> AdmiralCrunch, make an image of your disc so you can restore quickly.
[08:17] <alexandros> when i was was prompted for root password I entered my password and it acted like it was successful but then I ended up right back at the original screen
[08:17] <Fikrann> Hmm .. It'd be good if I'd listen to my own advices .. why the fuck I decided it's better to take apart my lappy, swap disks, install breezy from scratch is beyond me.
[08:19] <thrice`> when is preview due?
[08:20] <peterretief> bob2: last one :)  were do I check cron logs
[08:21] <brc_> is the current breezy daily borked?
[08:21] <brc_> I get the installer could not figure out how to install the base system error
[08:21] <brc_> and I can't find a way to give it a mirror to use
[08:21] <brc_> says it can't find an installable cd, or mirror
[08:22] <brc_> suggestions?
[08:23] <Madpilot> keep running Hoary
[08:23] <TokenBad> ok...a friend installed ubuntu..but he can't hear his cd player when he plays music
[08:24] <Nalioth> brc_: breezy is broken (and will be until you see 'Preview Release' in its version number
[08:24] <FatDarrel> TokenBad, your friend might not have the cdplayer audio out cable going to his mobo
[08:24] <TokenBad> checking on that now
[08:25] <brc_> no shit it's broken, and obviously I understand that it is in development and, surprise, needs testing!
[08:25] <TokenBad> its a g3 mac computer
[08:25] <Madpilot> FatDarrel: modern mobos (within the last two-three years) should do digital audio with no problems, I don't have an audio cable on either drive...
[08:25] <FatDarrel> TokenBad, don't know
[08:26] <FatDarrel> Madpilot, i can't do it
[08:26] <TokenBad> Madpilot its a g3..so so not sure if it does that
[08:26] <Madpilot> TokenBad: I know zip about Macs - might want to ask google
[08:27] <Madpilot> FatDarrel: really? how old are your mobo & CD drive?
[08:27] <FatDarrel> Madpilot, i have a dvd burner and my mobo is about 2 years old at the max
[08:27] <FatDarrel> anyone here run a dual opteron ?
[08:28] <FatDarrel> Is there anyway to make a really quiet / almost silent dual Opteron system
[08:28] <Madpilot> FatDarrel: my (fairly new model) DVD burner & two-three year old mobo do digital transfer...?
[08:28] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: i wish. you got an extra one to loan me so i'm not underpriveleged?
[08:29] <Madpilot> FatDarrel: watercooling?
[08:29] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: you put big enough heatsinks on the SOB, it'll be quiet
[08:29] <AdmiralCrunch> yeah, watercooling, with some good radiators
[08:29] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: apple xserve procs have no fans on em
[08:29] <peterretief> bigger fans make less noise
[08:30] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, the box has funs :)
[08:30] <TokenBad> ok i am confused
[08:30] <TokenBad> anyone here use mac computer?
[08:30] <FatDarrel> they suck air from the front to the back
[08:30] <FatDarrel> TokenBad, me
[08:30] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: fan placement/size is everything
[08:31] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, Yeah the Opterons are loud trying to design a new kick ass systerm
[08:31] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: have you looked the the dual G5s from apple (powermacs)
[08:31] <TokenBad> well
[08:31] <TokenBad> the cd rom in his system
[08:31] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, well it is more like heat dissipation
[08:31] <TokenBad> it just has this really big ide cable
[08:31] <TokenBad> not even a power port
[08:31] <TokenBad> like normal cd-roms
[08:31] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: the powermacs have a plastic insert in the case, keeping hot air and cool air seperate
[08:31] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, yes
[08:31] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, Correct 100 virgins to you
[08:31] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: i've got one. i appreciate how quiet it is (until i start compiling something)
[08:32] <AdmiralCrunch> I have a couple 120mm fans in my Antec Sonata case, with overclocked 3200+ (64) and it has temps around 40C, almost silent (Zalman Heatsink)
[08:32] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, yeah do a make -j 128 and see that sucker go
[08:32] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: virgins aren't any fun
[08:32] <FatDarrel> Nalioth, you should stop there
[08:32] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, you OC'ed your 3200+ to what ?
[08:33] <Nalioth> FatDarrel: you offered..
[08:33] <TokenBad> FatDarrel you play audio cds on mac computer using ubuntu?
[08:33] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, the Athlon64's are pretty quiet
[08:33] <Nalioth> TokenBad: i do
[08:33] <FatDarrel> TokenBad, no I use OS X
[08:33] <TokenBad> Nalioth my friend says he can't get his to play music cd's
[08:33] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, the opterons are really hot ... so more air thus more fans
[08:34] <Nalioth> TokenBad: you'll need to do the wiki dance on fixing sound in hoary
[08:34] <AdmiralCrunch> Yeah, they are quiet, its overclocked to 2.4
[08:34] <FatDarrel> TokenBad, tell him to quit playing CD's and buy music from some online retailer in Russia
[08:34] <TokenBad> he installed kubuntu by the way
[08:34] <AdmiralCrunch> I love AMD :P
[08:34] <Hentai^NT> oh yeah kubuntu should be done DLing
[08:34] <Hentai^NT> hurrayy
[08:35] <TokenBad> Nalioth it plays sound fine...the start up sound and all plays fine
[08:35] <TokenBad> just the audio cd's don't
[08:35] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, looking for a dual core  or a dual proc dual core system I am sick and tired of my single cpu not being able to handle something and do you run SCSI or SATA ?
[08:35] <AdmiralCrunch> SATA
[08:35] <TokenBad> Nalioth and what you mean do the wiki dance on fixing sound?
[08:35] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, one guy I know says he finds SATA faster than ATA ? .... they are basically the same disks
[08:36] <Hentai^NT> oh crud
[08:36] <Madpilot> the data transfer rate between ATA & SATA isn't that big...
[08:36] <init_6> anyone in here use cedega with ubuntu?
[08:36] <AdmiralCrunch> FatDarrel, well, the disks run at the same RPM usally, but the data transfer rate is a bit faster, its not a huge improvment.
[08:37] <FatDarrel> AdmiralCrunch, I see, I have SATA connectors on my x86 linux box and I am wondering somwthing with it in the new future you can get cheap SATA disks now
[08:37] <Hentai^NT> knoppix or kubuntu?
[08:38] <AdmiralCrunch> I like SATA, the speed is a tad faster, the cables are much smaller, and you can RAID them even easier.
[08:38] <Nalioth> TokenBad: there are several entries on the wiki and forums for ubuntu sound hoary
[08:38] <AdmiralCrunch> Considering most SATA motherboards already have RAID on them.
[08:39] <Nalioth> TokenBad: if he hears sounds fine, then theres a mechanical reason CDs dont work
[08:39] <AdmiralCrunch> I am considering getting a 300GB SATA drive for my system. 140$ at Newegg.
[08:39] <thellama> i just bought that one
[08:39] <thellama> maxtor right?
[08:39] <thellama> 15 meg cache
[08:39] <AdmiralCrunch> Yep
[08:39] <thellama> *16
[08:39] <thellama> I love it
[08:39] <AdmiralCrunch> I need to get one of those, I am running out of space for my live music
[08:40] <thellama> but I payed 250 for it... :(
[08:40] <AdmiralCrunch> oooh...ouch
[08:40] <FatDarrel> I just burn my  crap to DVD much better
[08:40] <thellama> how can i undo the last synaptic installation?
[08:40] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html <-- a lot of the "SATA RAID" installed on mobos isn't really raid...
[08:41] <thellama> i installed kde and all dep. but i dont want it (blushes)
[08:41] <thellama> how can i undo?
[08:41] <arma> is there a web interface to see which packages are available in hoary universe?
[08:41] <AdmiralCrunch> If its not RAID it acts like it, serves its purpose, so its not a problem to me.
[08:41] <Madpilot> arma: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <thellama> anyone?
[08:42] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: read that page, a lot of it doesn't work properly on linux, apparently - do you already use it?
[08:42] <Fikrann> Is there dedicated reiserfs dump/restore or will standard one work?
[08:42] <AdmiralCrunch> I have 2x 120GBs mirrored on my DFI Lanparty GT
[08:42] <thellama> someone help...
[08:43] <AdmiralCrunch> If I remember right, its the Promise chipset
[08:43] <arma> madpilot: great, thanks. and packages in hoary universe are called stable and not ever changed except for security updates, and even those aren't promised since it's universe?
[08:43] <AdmiralCrunch> wait, I have to check, brb
[08:43] <Fikrann> thellama, use synaptic.
[08:43] <thellama> i did
[08:43] <thellama> how can i undo
[08:43] <Nalioth> thellama: is your HD not big enough?
[08:43] <TokenBad> Nalioth: thanks..will try it
[08:43] <thellama> sort of
[08:43] <thellama> it's on an old ibook
[08:44] <Madpilot> arma: not sure of the exact policies, to be honest
[08:44] <Nalioth> thellama: use synaptic, search for 'kde' remove what you like
[08:44] <thellama> okay...
[08:44] <AdmiralCrunch> Alright, I just looked at the motherboard manual, it says NVIDIA, I suppose that would make sense considering its a NVIDIA based motherboard
[08:45] <thellama> but there's no way to just automatically select everything i just installed Nalioth?
[08:46] <Nalioth> thellama: not to my knowledge
[08:46] <arma> madpilot: ok. thanks.
[08:47] <thellama> okay, thanks Nalioth :)
[08:47] <thellama> bye y'all
[08:48] <markuman> hi. powernowd is for AMD and what is for Intel???
[08:48] <arma> ah, one other question. do most hoary users have hoary-backports in their repository list? or do most just use stable?
[08:49] <markuman> both
[08:49] <Madpilot> arma: I use hoary-extras but not backports
[08:49] <nalioths_dog> arma, i dont use extras or backports
[08:49] <syn-ack> Backports are evil
[08:49] <syn-ack> Well, they can be, that is
[08:50] <nalioths_dog> oh wait, i'm talking out of the wrong mouth
[08:50] <arma> ok. thanks.
[08:50] <syn-ack> nalioths_dog: What, you dont think so?
[08:51] <syn-ack> Ive run across on some major breakage on Debian at least with Backports.
[08:51] <Nalioth> i think backports and extras need to be handled carefully (esp soon after a release)
[08:51] <arma> right. in this case hoary universe ships with a program with some major security problems,
[08:52] <arma> and the developers of that program consider it obsolete and aren't maintained that tree anymore (it's 8 months old)
[08:52] <ompaul> arma, which program is that?
[08:52] <arma> tor
[08:52] <syn-ack> What the hell is tor?
[08:52] <Madpilot> !info tor
[08:52] <arma> (i've been talking to security@ubuntu about it, but i'm trying to get a feel here for what's going on with it)
[08:52] <ubotu> tor: (anonymizing overlay network for TCP), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 0.0.9.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 765 kB, Installed size: 1980 kB
[08:53] <syn-ack> ah
[08:53] <Nalioth> another tool to be misused by script-kiddies
[08:53] <syn-ack> Looks like.
[08:53] <arma> we added a newer version to hoary-backports, but it doesn't sound like this solves the problem of "hoary user apt-gets tor and uses it and is insecure and doesn't know it"
[08:53] <pef> hello
[08:54] <arma> i guess i'll see what the security team wants to do.
[08:54] <syn-ack> Since Ive never heard of that app, much less used it, I cant comment on it, so...
[08:55] <syn-ack> arma: Hell, I would just have it taken out of the repos altogether. How popular of an app it is?
[08:55] <ompaul> arma one plus is that while it is in universe it is not the kind of thing that is widely used
[08:55] <Nalioth> had one in here t'other day, join, flood (in another channel) and be dissed, over and over
[08:55] <syn-ack> s/it is/is it?
[08:56] <arma> do they remove packages from hoary universe? they seemed hesitant to just remove it.
[08:56] <Madpilot> arma: breezy will have the new (hoary backports) version in in - http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tor&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&page=3&number=50
[08:56] <arma> madpilot: right
[08:57] <Madpilot> hoary being frozen, I suspect they wouldn't want to yank something outright
[08:57] <ompaul> arma, well the ccorrect way to do it is to patch the broken version test it and pass out a security alert
[08:57] <ompaul> and not in that order :)
[08:58] <syn-ack> Madpilot: yeah, thats a good point
[08:58] <arma> ompaul: we put out the security alert weeks ago. we've stopped maintaining the 0.0.9.x tree though, since it's 9 months old now.
[08:58] <ompaul> arma, ahhh
[08:59] <arma> ompaul: we put out a patch for the 0.1.0.x tree, and the 0.1.1.x tree, and told people that 0.0.9.x was now obsolete. so ubuntu is sort of in a bind.
[09:00] <ompaul> yeap, and maybe not might test and force an upgrade to 0.1.0
[09:00] <arma> well, testing or not, i know of many security and crash bugs in 0.0.9.2 and they're all fixed in 0.1.0.14
[09:01] <arma> so holding it back because they want to test it seems sort of backwards.
[09:08] <protok0l> yo all
[09:08] <protok0l> i need help adding the unoffical repos to synaptic
[09:08] <synd> protok0l: edit your sources.list
[09:09] <protok0l> the wiki article seems to be for a earlier version
[09:09] <Madpilot> protok0l: you using Breezy already?
[09:10] <Nalioth> protok0l: unofficial repos can break your system
[09:13] <protok0l> i just wanna install mp3 and dvd and java support
[09:13] <Madpilot> !restricted
[09:13] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:13] <Madpilot> protok0l: see the URL above ^^^
[09:13] <tommi^> Hi. I'm soon going to have an external harddrive (300gb) and I'm wondering how should I partition it. I need to have a partition that is encrypted and used for backups of my home directory (50 gb should be way more than enough). That I know how to do but what about rest of the space? I will be using it for storing some bigger files which I use regularly. It should also be possible to hook it up on a windows machine. Which type the rest o
[09:13] <tommi^> f the space should be and is it feasable to use smaller partitions instead of one big one (250gb)? Thanks
[09:14] <mejobloggs> hey, has anyone here set up svn on ubuntu?
[09:15] <Madpilot> mejobloggs: I'm using it to access other people's stuff (Ubuntu doc team) but haven't done anything but the basics...
[09:16] <mejobloggs> yeah, thats ok
[09:16] <Madpilot> actual installation is dirt-simple
[09:16] <mejobloggs> i installed it, but i dont know how to do anything else
[09:16] <Adross> anyone here have a mic and want to help me with making a commercial for an imagenery movie for my english extension project? If so, please join #adross
[09:16] <mejobloggs> i shall explain what im doing
[09:16] <Fikrann> Gawd, what a fuck-up of a sysadmin I am .. trying to bash progs like cpfs.reiserfs into submission instead of using good old cpio
[09:17] <Fikrann> mejobloggs, go grab svn ebook ..
[09:17] <mejobloggs> I have a local ubuntu server with svn installed, and on my windows pc, i have tortoisesvn. So I have got this far, but i dont know how to go on
[09:17] <protok0l> it says it couldnt stat source package list
[09:17] <mejobloggs> Fikrann: I have looked at that, but i cant figure it out
[09:17] <Fikrann> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[09:17] <Fikrann> Chapters 5 and 6 have all info you need.
[09:18] <protok0l> nm got it
[09:19] <protok0l> nope, didnt get it
[09:19] <protok0l> lol
[09:19] <protok0l> same error
[09:19] <mejobloggs> Fikrann: ok, i shall read it again :)
[09:19] <protok0l> what should i do
[09:19] <protok0l> i need java like a crackhead needs a fix
[09:20] <nalioths_dog> protok0l: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[09:20] <Cashel> Hello! Is there a second CD for Ubuntu 5.04? The download section on the web lists only install and live cds, yet the base-install deal lets you choose to scan a 2nd CD? Also I'm getting pangora (sp? something related to gnome) errors when I try to run X w/ what looks like a good .conf to me.. any ideas/comments would be appreciated...
[09:20] <Madpilot> !java
[09:20] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:20] <Whistler> i am getting slow download speeds at  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com can i change to eu?
[09:20] <Whistler> or any other country?
[09:21] <Whistler> cause the speeds are terrible
[09:21] <Nalioth> Whistler: they're all slow
[09:22] <Whistler> Nalioth  with my 2mbit line all i get is max 90Kb/s
[09:22] <Fikrann> mejobloggs, it's a bit confusing for the first time I do agree .. but really simple. Run svnadmin create, edit your config file, run svnserve
[09:22] <Whistler> =[
[09:23] <Nalioth> Whistler: feller in here whallago wanted on the us. repos, cuz his was slow, too
[09:23] <Whistler> grr.. now i am getting only 19Kb/s
[09:23] <mejobloggs> Fikrann: svnadmin? where is that?
[09:23] <Nalioth> Whistler: turn off your pR0n downloads, and it'll get faster...    ;)
[09:23] <mejobloggs> heh
[09:23] <protok0l> i'd like to install other stuff too
[09:23] <Madpilot> hah
[09:24] <Whistler> Nalioth i turden everything off
[09:24] <protok0l> any idea whats up with me error, i selected the other repos straight from synaptic
[09:24] <Whistler> turned
[09:24] <Whistler> :)
[09:24] <Whistler> can i change this  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com to http://eu.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:24] <Whistler> ?
[09:25] <aburrent> anyone know how to install flash for mozilla?
[09:25] <Nalioth> sure thing
[09:25] <Madpilot> Whistler: yes, or just leave out the country suffix entirely
[09:25] <Nalioth> Whistler: or just take off any prefix
[09:25] <Madpilot> !tell aburrent about flash
[09:25] <Whistler> so i can use http://mycountry.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <Whistler> ?
[09:25] <aburrent> Madpilot, huh?  is it a secret?
[09:26] <Nalioth> Whistler: no. use just plain ubuntu.blah.blah
[09:26] <Madpilot> aburrent: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu with a URL?
[09:26] <Whistler> k
[09:26] <aburrent> Madpilot, oh..ok..nothing yet
[09:27] <Madpilot> aburrent: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- in case ubotu doesn't deliver (do you have all /msgs turned off?)
[09:27] <aburrent> Madpilot, I'm somewhat of a n00b with irc...how do I turn msgs on/off?
[09:28] <Madpilot> aburrent: depends on your irc program
[09:28] <aburrent> im using x-chat..
[09:29] <aburrent> oh
[09:29] <aburrent> Madpilot, I see...it did send a message
[09:30] <aburrent> thanks
[09:30] <Madpilot> abydos: no problem
[09:30] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep. good night/morning/whatever, eveyone
[09:31] <aburrent> gnite
[09:36] <ompaul> aburrent,  /umode +CE is that what you want
[09:36] <ompaul> aburrent, ohh and don't hang out in the channels where the messages are coming from :)
[09:36] <Fikrann> Hmmm.. I wonder why I keep expecting to hear a DDS drive whine up every time I archive something with tar... ;)
[09:37] <ompaul> Fikrann, auto suggestive technique after too many years of sitting beside a server at backup time?
[09:38] <dds_drive> click whir whir whir click whirrrrrrrrrr
[09:40] <Fikrann> Yeah .. I quite regret I can't put a tape drive in my lappy.
[09:41] <ompaul> Fikrann, but you could get a portable tape drive to sit on the parallel port, oooohhhhh yeah
[09:41] <Nalioth> ompaul: and the parellel to usb connector....
[09:42] <Fikrann> Well .. I'd rather stuff it in the router in place of never-used CD drive :}
[09:42] <Nalioth> keep it under 50 joules, please
[09:43] <RedGhost> i followed http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#linux exactly
[09:43] <RedGhost> but when i click the limewire icon
[09:43] <RedGhost> nothing shows
[09:43] <RedGhost> and i installed java runtime with firefox plugin
[09:43] <ompaul> !guide
[09:43] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[09:43] <RedGhost> er
[09:43] <RedGhost> #limewire
[09:43] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[09:43] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[09:44] <ompaul> why can't I connect to the tracker for torrenting my hoary iso
[09:44] <Nalioth> RedGhost: use gtk-gnutella
[09:45] <Nalioth> ompaul: tracker is down?
[09:45] <ompaul> bumber
[09:45] <RedGhost> ok ill check it out
[09:45] <ompaul> bummer even
[09:45] <apokryphos> ompaul: you know of a better guide for installing limewire on ubuntu?
[09:46] <ompaul> apokryphos, no, but I have seen so many complaints about I looked this up on u/guide
[09:46] <Nalioth> apokryphos: i don't advocate java apps
[09:46] <apokryphos> ompaul: there is really no other guide for limewire, so I'd recommend u/guide there
[09:46] <ompaul> !limewire
[09:46] <ubotu> well, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[09:46] <ompaul> haha
[09:46] <apokryphos> Nalioth: odd. Your loss. =)
[09:47] <Nalioth> apokryphos: gtk-gnutella is a functional equivelant
[09:47] <apokryphos> I'll try it out, but I haven't found anything that matches Limewire in functionality, for gnutella network
[09:47] <RedGhost> i just tried to install it
[09:47] <RedGhost> with those steps
[09:47] <mypapit> apokryphos, gtk-gnutella.. ;) i use them.. and it's fine..
[09:47] <RedGhost> didnt seem to work for me
[09:49] <Whistler> ompaul me joins the chorus
[09:49] <Whistler> :)
[09:49] <Fikrann> ompaul, IMO java's evil at least 150% of the time.
[09:49] <apokryphos> It can be evil, but let's not remove its strengths. It's generic, and easier to program than some other things. 8)
[09:50] <ompaul> its statically typed, and this is bad(tm)
[09:50] <apokryphos> Nalioth: that's often because many of the java apps you'd use are pretty featureful
[09:50] <apokryphos> Azureus, Limewire
[09:51] <Nalioth> azureus is devil-spawned
[09:51] <apokryphos> Nalioth: which java apps made you go down a gear?
[09:51] <apokryphos> Nalioth: it's the most featureful Bittorrent client
[09:51] <Nalioth> in the past, azureus, limewire, comic archive viewers, etc)
[09:52] <Nalioth> azureus can bite me
[09:52] <aburrent> any programming language that blithely encourages the programmer to forget about intelligent resource management is of limited use
[09:52] <Nalioth> i'm only expressing my opinion
[09:52] <apokryphos> Nalioth: erm, so you just proved my point. You did use htem both.
[09:52] <ompaulAFK> aburrent, I C
[09:52] <aburrent> "oh don't worry memory management...we'll handle it...the same way...for every app..one size fits all..sweep the problem under the rug"
[09:52] <Nalioth> and only cuz there aint but a few of us in here alive
[09:53] <Nalioth> apokryphos: i've used all kind of things
[09:53] <Nalioth> even tho i aint owned a PC in over 3.5 years, i still run windows programs on fearful occasions
[09:54] <apokryphos> aburrent: that's your opinion, but it's pretty obvious that it decreases development time, increases programmer-productivity
[09:54] <apokryphos> Nalioth: so far gtk-gnutella looks ok
[09:54] <apokryphos> ugly, but has the basics. Cool.
[09:55] <aburrent> apokryphos, it works for some apps...often the apps grow in complexity to the point where not handling resource management yourself explicitly limits the performance of your app
[09:55] <apokryphos> (unlike Qtella, which seems to do anything but actually work)
[09:55] <Nalioth> a functional equivelant
[09:55] <Fikrann> aburrent, so you believe C model of "I'm so ellastic you need to tell me what a byte is" is best?
[09:55] <aburrent> im not saying it doesn't have uses...but java is sold as the one true programming language...it isn't
[09:55] <apokryphos> aburrent: seems that no big application shave suffered from such a limitation; including Limewire.
[09:55] <aburrent> Fikrann, or maybe c++ with STL.
[09:56] <apokryphos> Nalioth: indeed
[09:56] <Fikrann> aburrent, ah, I misread you ..
[09:58] <aburrent> c++ with STL is my poison of choice...add boost to the mix and you are approaching the ease of other languages like java and python...but with the internals a mere pointer dereference away if you needto get down and dirty
[09:59] <Fikrann> aburrent, the funniest thing with Python is that you practically never need to 'get down and dirty'.
[10:00] <apokryphos> Ok, I'm out for now. Au revoir.
[10:00] <aburrent> Fikrann, to be fair, I haven't given python an honest shake.
[10:00] <nalioths_dog> woof
[10:01] <Sil4kka> could someone help me with installing my graphics card drivers
[10:01] <aburrent> wuts the problem?
[10:02] <Sil4kka> when i run the installer from root terminal, it says something like: you're running an X server
[10:02] <Sil4kka> how do i exit the server
[10:02] <aburrent> do you need to exit the server to install?
[10:02] <Sil4kka> yep
[10:03] <Sil4kka> wait...
[10:03] <aburrent> alt ctrl backspace...but that will kill your x-server...beware
[10:03] <Sil4kka>  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:03] <Sil4kka>          installing.
[10:03] <nalioths_dog> Sil4kka, dont do that
[10:03] <Sil4kka> i get that
[10:03] <aburrent> you x-server is your windowing system
[10:03] <aburrent> alt-ctrl backspace will kill it
[10:03] <aburrent> but everything goes by by but a shell prompt
[10:03] <nalioths_dog> Sil4kka, hit ctrl-alt-f3
[10:04] <Sil4kka> ok ill try it...
[10:04] <aburrent> cya
[10:04] <Whistler> em
[10:04] <aburrent> close all your apps
[10:04] <Nalioth> dont kill your x, cycle to another login window
[10:04] <Whistler> how do i open ports in my ubuntu?
[10:04] <Sil4kka> nalioth what do you mean
[10:04] <Whistler> i dont use any firewall
[10:04] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: hold the ctrl key, press teh alt key and hold it, then press f3
[10:05] <aburrent> Nalioth, what does that do?
[10:05] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back here
[10:05] <Nalioth> you all have 8 login shells on your ubuntu boxen
[10:05] <aburrent> but the installer is complaining that an X-server is running
[10:06] <Nalioth> ctrl-alt-f(1-6) get you a terminal, while ~f7/8 are for X
[10:06] <aburrent> is that going to stop all x-servers?
[10:06] <Nalioth> aburrent: if you ctrl-alt-backspace, it'll just restart the xserver
[10:06] <dennis__> Guys
[10:06] <dennis__> !cd burning
[10:06] <ubotu> dennis__: I haven't a clue
[10:06] <dennis__> Whats a good cd burning tool?
[10:06] <dennis__> !cdburning
[10:06] <ubotu> dennis__: Are you smoking crack?
[10:06] <Nalioth> dennis__: k3b
[10:06] <dennis__> keb/
[10:06] <dennis__> HMm
[10:06] <dennis__> !k3b
[10:06] <ubotu> dennis__: I haven't a clue
[10:06] <dennis__> :/
[10:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> !burning
[10:07] <ubotu> Carpe_Libertatem: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:07] <dennis__> Uboto sucks
[10:07] <Nalioth> dennis__: its !info k3b
[10:07] <spiral> hi
[10:07] <dennis__> !info k3b
[10:07] <ubotu> k3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB
[10:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> !info xen
[10:07] <dennis__> I'm in gnome
[10:07] <dennis__> any gnome ones/
[10:07] <dennis__> I don't like kde programs :o
[10:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> K3b should work in Gnome, no?
[10:07] <Nalioth> k3b is the best one available. period. you can use gnomebaker or graveman
[10:07] <dennis__> k
[10:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> I don't know why KDE is so popular.
[10:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is the only reason it came out fist
[10:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> ?
[10:08] <Nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: what does kde look like?
[10:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> Crap?
[10:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> and XP
[10:10] <Carpe_Libertatem> KDE was popular before XP was out though, no?
[10:10] <Fikrann> k3b is _the_best_ CD burning application available. No other program offers such good interface.
[10:10] <aburrent> nite all
[10:12] <znh> err.. why is all my memory in use? - I have only running bash without X running!
[10:12] <Sil4kka> when i did that ctrl-alt-f3 and ran the installer it said: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[10:12] <nalioths_dog> Sil4kka, so use sudo when running it
[10:12] <Fikrann> That, Amarok and Kontact are three KDE based programs that are clearly superior than other programs in their categories.
[10:13] <Fikrann> znh, what does free -m show to you?
[10:13] <znh> Fikrann: Total 758, Used: 752
[10:14] <Fikrann> How about -/+ buffers/cache:  line?
[10:14] <znh> Fikrann: total 1223 used 0 free 1223
[10:15] <Fikrann> not swap, but buffers. The middle line.
[10:15] <znh> Fikrann: when I am watching 'top' everything seems to be cached - what's this about?
[10:15] <Myrtti> erm.
[10:16] <chavo> znh, it's a conspiracy
[10:16] <znh> chavo: hmm.. don't know that word yet :-] 
[10:16] <znh> Fikrann: middle line: used 45 free 712
[10:16] <Fikrann> znh, I bet that 95% of your RAM are filled with the disk buffers.
[10:16] <chavo> znh, linux will use all available ram as a cache
[10:17] <chavo> you will see almost no swap usage
[10:17] <znh> chavo: that's right
[10:17] <znh> so i's a good thing?
[10:17] <znh> *it's
[10:17] <chavo> yes
[10:18] <znh> yaay *blinks*
[10:19] <Sil4kka> nalioth i tried like: sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run
[10:20] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: why are you not using the nvidia drivers from the repos?
[10:20] <znh> Nalioth: yeah.. that would be allot easier
[10:20] <Sil4kka> ehhh how
[10:20] <Sil4kka> from synaptic?
[10:20] <Nalioth> !tell Sil4kka about sources
[10:21] <znh> Sil4kka:synaptic is a hard way.. try  openning a terminal and typ it like we are going to tell you
[10:21] <Sil4kka> ok
[10:21] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: znh is pulling your leg
[10:21] <Sil4kka> ?
[10:21] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: you can use whatever method you are comfortable with
[10:21] <Myrtti> those of you who like podcasts, what podcast client are you using to get the streams?
[10:21] <znh> Nalioth: not very kind :P
[10:22] <Nalioth> znh: we are a "help" channel here
[10:22] <znh> Nalioth: and I am a "helper"
[10:22] <Nalioth> we are here to teach people to fish
[10:22] <znh> Nalioth: I am just telling him that the terminal is also a way to get the nvidia packages
[10:23] <znh> Nalioth: most people find out that it's way faster and easier
[10:23] <cyphase> how do i fix evolution when it crashes every time i run it
[10:23] <Demitar> You want to install linux-restricted-modules-* and nvidia-glx, and use the nvidia x11 driver.
[10:23] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: synaptic is a point and click interface to apt-get. aptitude is a console frontend to apt-get.
[10:23] <cyphase> i think it's data corruption
[10:23] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: apt-get can be run by itself (without a frontend)
[10:24] <Nalioth> znh: the floor is yours
[10:24] <skpl> can someone tell me what this error means? \eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[10:24] <znh> Nalioth: aight.. I am sorry that I told it a bit wrong..
[10:24] <Sil4kka> could someone explain it to me now, what do i exactly need to do
[10:25] <Demitar> skpl, what command are you running?
[10:25] <znh> Sil4kka: sure, but I don't know if Nalioth wants to tell it
[10:25] <skpl> Demitar: eject
[10:25] <Demitar> skpl, just "eject" with no arguments?
[10:25] <skpl> yes
[10:26] <znh> Sil4kka: first, we need to add some new places to get packages from
[10:26] <Nalioth> znh: you are more familiar. i dont run intel hardware
[10:26] <znh> Nalioth: so do I
[10:26] <Demitar> You might want to run it with the -v flag to find out which the "default" device is. (And try "man eject" if you want more specific information.)
[10:27] <Myrtti> erm. that podcastclient?
[10:27] <Sil4kka> go on znh
[10:27] <znh> Sil4kka: in order to get root access, we need to open a terminal and typ 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:27] <Fikrann> znh, try eject /dev/hdc if you have IDE cd drive ...
[10:28] <znh> Fikrann: wrong guy
[10:28] <Fikrann> znh, sorry
[10:28] <znh> Fikrann: np
[10:28] <Fikrann> skpl, try eject /dev/hdc if you have IDE cd drive ...
[10:29] <Demitar> Fikrann, skpl: If you want to eject a cdrom device "eject cdrom" should work as well.
[10:29] <Sil4kka> znh now it opened the source.list with the text editor
[10:29] <znh> Sil4kka: great, how add the following lines
[10:29] <znh> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:29] <znh> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:29] <Fikrann> Demitar, true.
[10:29] <znh> Sil4kka: *now
[10:30] <znh> Nalioth: anyways.. why do you think I am running intel hardware?
[10:30] <lunitik> znh: if he doesn't know how to add it himself... you likely dont' have to tell him about source repo's... it will just slow down his apt-get update process
[10:31] <Demitar> znh, Sil4kka: Isn't the nvidia modules in restricted anyways? Which should be enabled by default?
[10:31] <faked> I have a small problem with my syslog, it logs all messages to all virtual terminals. How can I bring syslog to log only in one virtual terminal?
[10:31] <lunitik> Demitar: ye
[10:31] <znh> lunitik: Demitar: they aren't by default in the sources
[10:31] <Sil4kka> znh i add the lines and save the file?
[10:31] <lunitik> znh: I know.. he still doesn't need the source repo...
[10:32] <znh> lunitik: sharp indeed..
[10:32] <Demitar> znh, still, he doesn't need multiverse.
[10:32] <znh> Demitar: then what repo does he need?
[10:32] <Demitar> znh, restricted, which he already should have.
[10:32] <Nalioth> znh: what? i havent owned intel hardware in over 3 years
[10:32] <lunitik> Demitar: most users wish to use things like java... so multiverse should be activated for most
[10:32] <lunitik> s/java/flash
[10:32] <lunitik> java is in extras though
[10:33] <znh> Nalioth: you said "you are more familiar with intel hardware"
[10:33] <Demitar> lunitik, still, that's not what it's all about anyway. :)
[10:33] <znh> Sil4kka: exit the editor, and typ 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:33] <Nalioth> znh: i said "You" were more familiar. i only own macs (for the past 3.5 years)
[10:33] <Sil4kka> znh do i save the file?
[10:33] <znh> Sil4kka: that would be nice
[10:34] <lunitik> Demitar: what is it about then? Users main requirements involve full web support... flash is popular online...
[10:34] <Demitar> lunitik, the original question was about nvidia x11 acceleration if I didn't misunderstand.
[10:34] <Sil4kka> znh, done
[10:35] <lunitik> Demitar: nvidia stuff is installed by default...
[10:35] <lunitik> Demitar: its a depends of linux-restricted-modules-*
[10:35] <znh> Sil4kka: now we have to fetch the drivers, and a tool that does the configuration part
[10:35] <Demitar> lunitik, that was what I suspected as well. :)
[10:36] <znh> Sil4kka: first, typ 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[10:36] <lunitik> znh: thats installed by default
[10:36] <znh> lunitik: negative
[10:36] <lunitik> Sil4kka: ignore znh and view  the following site
[10:36] <znh> lunitik: or has it been added last days :/ ?
[10:36] <lunitik> !BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, binarydriverhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto or ask !Display !Resolution !ati !nvidia Please use /msg <your_question> to avoid flooding the channel
[10:36] <lunitik> or just !nvidia
[10:37] <lunitik> !nvidia
[10:37] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:37] <znh> lunitik: the standard nvidia drivers doens't have 3D Acceleration
[10:37] <znh> lunitik: and 'ignore znh' is _not_ kind at all!
[10:37] <znh> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:38] <lunitik> znh: all you have said is misinformation... pointing him at the correct page on the wiki is more useful
[10:38] <lunitik> znh: nvidia drivers are in restricted _NOT_ multiverse!!!
[10:39] <znh> lunitik: they were never in restricted when I tried to install the nvidia drivers.. also ubuntuguide.org confirms that
[10:39] <Nalioth> wow
[10:39] <Demitar> lunitik, pointing fingers and shouting doesn't help either. :)
[10:40] <Nalioth> Sil4kka: if you go to ubuntuguide, come in here and get a 2nd opinion on anything you find there b4 you follow it, it can lead you to a broken ubuntu
[10:40] <lunitik> !ubuntuguide
[10:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[10:41] <Sil4kka> znh i did what you said, it unpacked some file from the ubuntu cd
[10:41] <lunitik> Demitar: I wasn't pointing fingers or shouting... I was simply trying to speed up the process of a user getting help... and limiting miss information
[10:41] <znh> Sil4kka: aight.. then they weren't in multiverse anyway (what changed last days :/!)
[10:41] <lunitik> znh: They certainly aren't in multiverse
[10:42] <znh> Sil4kka: ok, the drivers are installed but not configured yet - this can be done by installing the nvidia-settings package
[10:42] <Demitar> lunitik, I understood your intention, but I doubt that's how it would be interpreted by znh. :)
[10:42] <lunitik> Demitar: znh isn't giving correct help... I was trying to limit Sil4kka's misinformation
[10:43] <Seveas> lunitik: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:43] <lunitik> Seveas: I've read it
[10:43] <znh> angels all around me..
[10:43] <lunitik> Seveas: thanks though
[10:43] <Seveas> then adhere to it and be polite
[10:43] <lunitik> Seveas: /ignore me... kthanx
[10:43] <Demitar> lunitik, as I said I understood, and the facts I'd agree with, but the tone it was said was not appropriate.
[10:43] <Seveas> lunitik, no, as operator I cannot do that and let you mess up the atmosphere in here again
[10:43] <lunitik> Seveas: I'm sure other ops can judge my conduct well enough
[10:43] <Nalioth> lunitik: ya might not like how you're ignored .. .. ..
[10:44] <Sil4kka> znh where do i get the settings package from
[10:44] <Seveas> !info nvidia-settings
[10:44] <ubotu> nvidia-settings: (Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 491 kB, Installed size: 1008 kB
[10:44] <znh> Sil4kka: at the same way you have fetched the nvidia-glx package, just by typing 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings'
[10:44] <Seveas> they're also in restricted
[10:45] <Sil4kka> znh, done
[10:45] <lunitik> Seveas: I used to help more than most... you messed up the atmosphere more than I ever did... however if you want to discuss that... feel free to /msg me about it
[10:45] <znh> Seveas: very odd.. always when I had to install the nvidia-glx packages, they weren't in restricted for me
[10:45] <Demitar> lunitik, the worst part of it being that it might discourage znh from helping, he might have been misinformed but he was very helpful with what information he had.
[10:45] <znh> Sil4kka: great, last part: sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable
[10:45] <Seveas> lunitik, read back the log of this channel and see where you're wrong
[10:45] <Seveas> you've been in here three times in the last 5 months. three times you made problems
[10:45] <lunitik> Seveas: My stay in the Ubuntu community is already limited because of you...
[10:46] <ml267> what's the fastest way to check the version of an installed ubuntu system?
[10:46] <Sil4kka> znh, it says: sudo: nvidia-glx-settings: command not found
[10:46] <dwk> Hello folks
[10:46] <lunitik> Seveas: I've been here since the preview release... you're the only person that keeps me from helping more
[10:46] <Nalioth> ml267: in a terminal, type "uname -a"
[10:46] <znh> Sil4kka: my bad
[10:46] <Seveas> I'm not limiting anyone who behaves properly, so either behave or begone
[10:46] <znh> Sil4kka: it's sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:46] <dwk> Anyone here able to help with disk partitioning on install?
[10:46] <ml267> Nalioth, it doesn't say
[10:47] <lunitik> Seveas: You make this channel hell to help in... just because I am not polite to people giving misinformation?
[10:47] <wickedpuppy> dwk just ask pls ...
[10:47] <Nalioth> ml267: what does it say?
[10:47] <v1ru5> anyone here able to figure out why my mouse is preventing gnome from launching??
[10:47] <znh> Sil4kka: one little explaination about 'sudo' - it's a portal to the root user, it gives a process all the permissions.. only use this when people tell you in this channel!
[10:47] <Nalioth> lunitik: thre are other ways to point these things out
[10:47] <ml267> Nalioth, well, it's running the 2.6.10 kernel... might have been locally built
[10:47] <lunitik> Seveas: You'll be glad that to hear that you are the single reason I will be using SUSE when it is released though. You rule as an op
[10:47] <Sil4kka> znh, it says x needs to be restarted, how do i do that, log out or restart or something?
[10:47] <Nalioth> ml267: then i'm not sure, but 2.6.10 is hoary, i believe
[10:48] <lunitik> Sil4kka: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:48] <Seveas> lunitik, if that means you won't be making problems in here again, I can only be glad
[10:48] <znh> Seveas: I'm getting pissed..
[10:48] <ml267> Nalioth: so there's no ubuntu equivalent to /etc/debian_version ?
[10:48] <Nalioth> ml267: did you try that?
[10:48] <lunitik> Seveas: it also means one more clueful person leaves the Ubuntu community
[10:48] <Nalioth> ml267: im not a tech like others in here, more of a talented user
[10:48] <Sil4kka> lunitik: i get * Starting GNOME Display Manager...          [fail] 
[10:49] <lunitik> Seveas: at least 2 other ops in here agree with me that you are hard to deal with.
[10:49] <Seveas> lunitik, name them
[10:49] <ml267> Nalioth: what does 3.1 debian correspond to for ubuntu?
[10:49] <lunitik> Seveas: /msg me
[10:49] <Nalioth> lunitik: all that has been pointed out to you is that you need some thought of your communication skills
[10:49] <syn-ack> ml267: it doesnt, really
[10:49] <znh> lunitik: at least 300 people in here might agree that Seveas is not hard to deal with
[10:49] <Demitar> lunitik, people are not machines and cannot be treated as such, you have to consider the feelings as well as the facts.
[10:49] <Seveas> znh, there are only 286 people in here ;)
[10:49] <syn-ack> ml267: they arent really interchangeable, without breaking a lot of stuff.
[10:49] <Nalioth> ml267: i dont think there are direct comparisons. ubuntu releases every 6 months
[10:49] <Sil4kka> znh, how do i restart X?
[10:49] <Seveas> Sil4kka, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:49] <lunitik> znh: most of those 300 people haven't been here as long as the people that hold my point of view
[10:50] <ml267> Ooooh, I just thought of an idea... I can check the apt sources list!
[10:50] <znh> Seveas: some might be sleeping
[10:50] <ml267> as long as it hasn't been futzed with
[10:50] <syn-ack> ml267: It was originally based off of Deb Sid though.
[10:50] <Sil4kka> seveas i just did that and it said: gnome display manager not running, starting GDM...  [fail] 
[10:50] <lunitik> Seveas: I told him that... X failed at restarting... so something is wrong with his nvidia configuration...
[10:50] <znh> Sil4kka: hit ctrl+alt+backspace, that will restart the X server (it will go a bit fast, like it crashes)
[10:50] <Nalioth> lunitik: i agree with you that sometimes Seveas can be a little harsh, but you DO need to work on your communication skills
[10:51] <lunitik> znh: NO... something is wrong with his configuration...
[10:51] <lunitik> znh: he needs to post his /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere to see what might be wrong
[10:51] <znh> lunitik: he didn't tell anything about a wrong configuration.. only that he had to restart X, and that's normal
[10:51] <v1ru5> does anyone know how to get an optical USB logitech mouse working in linux? (it prevents gnome from launching - and it works if you unplug it when you power up, let linux launch and then plug it but it's FUCKING ANNOYING to do that.)
[10:51] <ml267> Nalioth: looks like it is in fact hoary.  thanks
[10:52] <Nalioth> ml267: np
[10:52] <v1ru5> *in ubuntu
[10:52] <Seveas> Sil4kka, put your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the pastebin please
[10:52] <rendi> guy's how to play *.wma file
[10:52] <Seveas> rendi, install w32codecs and use mplayer or titem-xine
[10:52] <Nalioth> v1ru5: watch the lingo, please
[10:52] <lunitik> Nalioth: thats a given... and I realize this... but making a helpful member of the community go else where is hardly the way to deal with it...
[10:52] <Sil4kka> seveas: pastebin?
[10:52] <rendi> ty
[10:52] <Seveas> Sil4kka, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:52] <Nalioth> lunitik: mind your behavior, and he'll mind his.
[10:53] <v1ru5> Nalioth: yah well i've asked this question for days here and nobody says anything but robotgeek who isn't here right now
[10:53] <znh> Seveas: why do you think that he has a wrong X configuration?
[10:53] <Nalioth> v1ru5: cussin aint gonna get answers out of the ignorant
[10:53] <v1ru5> Nalioth: and there are more advanced problems solved here so why anyone doesn't know a shiznit about mouse configuring
[10:53] <Seveas> znh, X not starting usually means wrong setting/driver
[10:53] <znh> Seveas: he didn't say anything about that
[10:53] <v1ru5> Nalioth: would you happen to know how to fix that?
[10:53] <Nalioth> v1ru5: have you been to the forums or hit the mailing list(s)?
[10:53] <Sil4kka> seveas,znh: i g2g AFK for a while ill do that when i get back
[10:53] <lunitik> Nalioth: I have tried to explain to Seveas that I am not someone to confront in a disrespectful manor... I have also asked him to discuss this in private... neither of which will he comply with...
[10:53] <Seveas>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...          [fail] 
[10:54] <v1ru5> Nalioth: nah, i hate mailing lists but the forums could be help.. where are they?
[10:54] <znh> Seveas: oh.. he didn't use highlighting..
[10:54] <znh> v1ru5: on the internet
[10:54] <v1ru5> znh: hahahahaha
[10:54] <Seveas> v1ru5, ubuntuforums.org
[10:54] <v1ru5> znh: LOL
[10:54] <Nalioth> lunitik: i have seen what has gone on tonight. YOU should work on your communication skills.
[10:54] <v1ru5> znh: ROFL HAHHAHHHEHEHEEHEHEE
[10:54] <v1ru5> znh: bad one.
[10:54] <Nalioth> v1ru5: wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <znh> v1ru5: sorry.. bit mad
[10:55] <v1ru5> btw any idea why gnome doesn't want to put 1024x768 on anymore?
[10:55] <v1ru5> it did it before i launched up fluxbox one time
[10:55] <znh> v1ru5: is there a mode line for that resolution?
[10:55] <v1ru5> :/
[10:55] <Nalioth> !tell v1ru5 about resolution
[10:55] <v1ru5> no it onmly displays 640x480
[10:55] <v1ru5> BUT, it displayed em all before
[10:55] <lunitik> Nalioth: my reaction to Seveas is due to prior encounters with him... however I was simply trying to point Sil4kka in the right direction, and told him that znh is mininforming him...
[10:56] <znh> anyways I am not going to help anyone anymore.. since I am not helpfull
[10:56] <syn-ack> v1ru5: You have to fix your applicable resolutions.
[10:56] <rendi> what mean ioctl dif1:invalid argumen ??
[10:56] <Nalioth> lunitik: yes, but you've been told by several people in here what their opinions of all this has been
[10:56] <Juhaz> lunitik, you know, there's this old saying: treat others how you would like to be treated
[10:56] <rendi> i wanna play cd with mplaye
[10:56] <rendi> and err like that
[10:56] <Juhaz> lunitik, if you keep treating others disrespectfully, you don't have the slightest right to whine when others also treat you disrespectfully
[10:56] <lunitik> znh: wrong stance to take.... help if you are sure you know the answer... but if you aren't 100% sure... then you do more harm than good
[10:57] <znh> lunitik: oh that makes me feel good
[10:57] <Seveas> last time you pissed us off
[10:57] <stiev> ok, i'm using a 4port KVM switch for 2 (k)ubuntu boxes and two win boxes... why do i have to be switched to the current ubuntu box for it to load the mouse and the display properly?
[10:57] <Seveas> znh, don't feel bad, we appreciate the help from anyone who is polite
[10:57] <Nalioth> lunitik: work on your communication skills
[10:58] <rendi> Seveas can help me
[10:58] <Demitar> lunitik, znh: That's plain silly, you can be 100% sure and be completely wrong. (Better to try and offer your advice and let others fill in.)
[10:58] <Seveas> rendi, what's the problem?
[10:59] <rendi> i wanna play cd with mplayer
[10:59] <rendi> and the err like this ioctl dif1:invalid argumen ??
[10:59] <Seveas> one second
[10:59] <Nalioth> stiev: depending on the kvm, you shouldnt (some dont tell all the boxen there's a kb and video attached at boot time)
[11:00] <rendi> ok
[11:00] <Sil4kka> Seveas: i'll put all of the xorg.0.log and the other file to the pastebin?
[11:00] <Seveas> Sil4kka, that would help
[11:00] <Seveas> rendi, how did you start mplayer, I didn't know it could play cd's :)
[11:00] <rendi> lol
[11:00] <rendi> put cd on cdrom
[11:00] <rendi> open mplare
[11:00] <rendi> mplayer
[11:01] <znh> Seveas: Sil4kka: sorry for interrupting.. but what does uname -r gives as output?
[11:01] <stiev> Nalioth: thanks- it's not that big of an issue cause i keep them up all the time... just one of those annoying things
[11:01] <rendi> and file open cd rom
[11:01] <rendi> that is
[11:01] <rendi> or play vcd
[11:01] <Sil4kka> znh just type that to the terminal? i got 2.6.10-5-386
[11:01] <Nalioth> stiev: some of the more pricy kvms report devices to all the boxen, even though only one is active
[11:01] <rendi> i have file on *.wmz but can't display that picture only sound play
[11:01] <rendi> wma
[11:01] <znh> Sil4kka: ok, that woulden't a problem then
[11:02] <Seveas> rendi, wma is audio only..
[11:02] <topyli> i forget: how do you set the "sticky bit" or something on a dir such as /home/pub/pics so that it's read/write for everybody in the 'users' group whoever adds pics to it?
[11:02] <znh> rendi: windows media audio
[11:02] <Nalioth> rendi: some modern microsoft media wont play no matter how hard you try
[11:02] <rendi> arg
[11:03] <znh> rendi: no reason to 'argh', there might exist applications to convert them to mp3 files
[11:03] <rendi> i just get that cd from amazon and only sound :(
[11:03] <rendi> it is black eye peas
[11:03] <rendi> no picture
[11:03] <rendi> heh
[11:03] <znh> rendi: black peayed eyes?
[11:03] <Nalioth> syn-ack: then i guess you are walking and living in a box?
[11:03] <rendi> yup znh
[11:03] <topyli> black eyed peas
[11:03] <stiev> Nalioth: it's an IOGear MiniView. not that that means anything, but i don't have this problems with any other computers i've plugged it into (including Lindows)
[11:04] <rendi> i have spend $17 and onlye get sound ......
[11:04] <syn-ack> Nakkel: um no, I just use formats such as mp3 and .ogg
[11:04] <Nalioth> stiev: hmm thats funny. i have an iogear (something) and my ubuntu doesnt have a problem...
[11:04] <Sil4kka> seveas: now they should be in the pastebin
[11:04] <Sil4kka> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1843
[11:05] <znh> rendi: well tbh.. .wma stands for 'windows media audio' - this will never give any video..
[11:05] <stiev> Nalioth: can ubuntu be configured as a file/print server?
[11:05] <Nalioth> stiev: yes it can
[11:05] <syn-ack> Sil4kka: Wow, you
[11:05] <stiev> Nalioth: How do I go about doing that?
[11:05] <syn-ack> 're missing most of your config
[11:05] <v1ru5> lol, back @ windows. at least microsoft knows their shit about compatibility :)
[11:06] <topyli> stiev: of course. i have a windows client who has all their files here, plus printing. the keyword is sambqa
[11:06] <topyli> samba even
[11:06] <znh> v1ru5: what do you mean by that?
[11:06] <Nalioth> stiev: not sure. i dont print.
[11:06] <v1ru5> and that's just something (compatibility, i mean) linux will take years and years to accomplish
[11:06] <Nalioth> stiev: have you looked at the wiki?
[11:06] <syn-ack> v1ru5: No, they dont. They make their own "standards" and ignore actual standards. Now stop trolling
[11:06] <Nalioth> stiev: wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <v1ru5> znh: well all your hardware works on it
[11:06] <v1ru5> syn-ack: yep well nevertheless it works. you're just jealous :)
[11:07] <znh> v1ru5: have you tried an onboard soundcard like AC'95, doesn't work on windows.. works on linux!
[11:07] <bina> v1ru5: all my harware works on here
[11:07] <stiev> Nalioth: Not too much- I've really just started with Linux/Ubuntu yesterday, so I'm really a n00b
[11:07] <syn-ack> I happen to run windows on my primary workstation
[11:07] <Madeye> guys, how to unzip 500 zip file at once?
[11:07] <topyli> stiev: do you have linux or windows clients?
[11:07] <Nalioth> stiev: start here wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:08] <topyli> stiev: actually it doesn't even matter, i would use samba anyway
[11:08] <znh> Madeye: cd in that directory and typ unzip *
[11:08] <bina> Is there some way to archive old mail in Kmail?
[11:09] <Madeye> caution: filename not matched:  adige_ceug.zip
[11:09] <Madeye> caution: filename not matched:  apsuwa.zip
[11:09] <Madeye> caution: filename not matched:  diaspora.zip
[11:09] <stiev> topyli: both- 5 Win XP sp2 (2 wireless); 1 Win2k Prof (Wireless); 2 Ubuntu; 1 Win 98
[11:09] <topyli> samba it is
[11:09] <znh> bina: I don't have any expierence with Kmail, but you might want to find out were Kmail saves the mailes, and tar it manualy
[11:09] <stiev> lol
[11:09] <topyli> it's your only choice :)
[11:09] <bina> znh: k, will try that.  thanks
[11:09] <messju> hi, what wlan-pcmcia-card is recommended/good for ubuntu/hoary? orinoco?
[11:09] <znh> bina: welcome
[11:10] <syn-ack> I generally fun WinXP Pro on all the Workstations, save the Linux dev box and the AD server, and then linux on everything else
[11:10] <stiev> i'm thinking about turning that 98 box into a file/print server, and so far ubuntu is the easiest distro to use
[11:10] <syn-ack> s/fun/run
[11:10] <Sil4kka> seveas: you there? did you already look at the files
[11:10] <Nalioth> bina: mail files are just text, so use a compressor of your choice
[11:10] <rendi> guys what about play *.wav file
[11:10] <rendi> use mplayer or totem ?
[11:11] <messju> rendi: I'd use xmms
[11:11] <znh> rendi: bplay is a very good one, if you need some more stuff on your screen you might like 'xmms'
[11:11] <syn-ack> rendi: neither is going to do very good, with out the codecs installed.
[11:11] <topyli> stiev: that works too, the linux box can use the client part of samba. but i would not make any sort of server on w98 :)
[11:11] <bina> Nalioth: k thanks.  Searching out where theyre hiding how :)
[11:11] <rendi> ok ty
[11:11] <znh> bina: I bet Kmail saves it in ~/.kde/applications(orsomething)/kmail
[11:12] <Nalioth> bina: look in your ~./kde folder to start (unless you have a ~/.kmail)
[11:12] <stiev> topyli: yeah, that option is out the window!
[11:12] <znh> Nalioth: ha you damn mind reader!
[11:12] <topyli> hah
[11:12] <Sil4kka> could someone else take a look at those config files, seveas seems to have gone somewhere
[11:12] <stiev> thanks topyli & Nalioth- hopefully I'll see you guys on soon. Time for me to turn in
[11:12] <znh> Sil4kka: I have a better idea
[11:13] <bina> znh, Nalioth: success. Thanks
[11:13] <__filip_> i know about winmac_fstab, that add my windows and mac partitions into my fstab. Is there something like that but it add my ext3 partitions?
[11:13] <rob^> topyli, there is one type of server you could make on a window98 box: a honeypot
[11:13] <topyli> stiev: so, if it's a slow box, you will install ubuntu with the "server" option and have a bare-bones install. then just add the services you want
[11:13] <Sil4kka> znh: tell me
[11:13] <znh> Sil4kka: what about backing up the current configuration, and let nvidia-glx-config make a new one?
[11:13] <topyli> rob^: nah, you want win2k for that. the modern worms and viruses won't even work on w98
[11:13] <stiev> topyli: yeah, 333Mhz is pretty slow!
[11:13] <Sil4kka> znh: how?
[11:13] <topyli> stiev: that's mighty fast
[11:14] <znh> stiev: 333mhz.. that's VERY fast
[11:14] <znh> stiev: I wish i had such proccsor in my head :-D
[11:14] <topyli> heh
[11:14] <messju> is there anything better than orinoco for pcmcia-wlan? (won't repeat, promised! :)
[11:14] <znh> Sil4kka: (backupup:) sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[11:14] <Nalioth> __filip_: how did you get a ext3 after the fact?
[11:14] <topyli> znh: all you need is some gin
[11:14] <stiev> topyli, znh: yeah, but it still loses to my 3.2GHz every time!
[11:14] <__filip_> a make an new partition.
[11:15] <topyli> stiev: sure, but you're talking about a samba file/print server
[11:15] <znh> stiev: I woulden't feel the difference.. only in slow wm's such as gnome _o_
[11:15] <HappyFool> anyone else using the acroread_5.10 package from multiverse (hoary, x86) ? I think the install is incorrect (as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1832.html)
[11:15] <rob^> saftey in obsolescence.. I could make a few bucks with that security strategy ;)
[11:15] <Sil4kka> znh: done
[11:16] <znh> Sil4kka: allright, now lets run that tool again: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:16] <stiev> topyli: yeah, i'll see soon enough. well, eventually anyway
[11:16] <topyli> stiev: happy hacking!
[11:16] <Sil4kka> znh: what now, it says again: X needs to be restarted
[11:16] <Nalioth> __filip_: then you should be able to add it to your fstab by mimicing existing entries, adding in the new drives info
[11:16] <znh> Sil4kka: that's a good thing, try restarting it :)
[11:17] <znh> Sil4kka: oh wait, teh stupid I am
[11:17] <topyli> hah
[11:17] <stiev> znh: i only feel the difference when trying to play movies- although the 333MHz box does have an ATI All-IN-Wonder Pro
[11:17] <stiev> topyli: thanks!
[11:17] <znh> stiev: well yeah.. that's a important thing!
[11:17] <__filip_> Nalioth: how can i do that easy?
[11:18] <znh> Sil4kka: remove the current config by typing: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:18] <Nalioth> __filip_: open your fstab and have a look at it
[11:18] <stiev> night all-
[11:18] <znh> Sil4kka: after that, run the wizard xorgconfig by typing: sudo xorgconfig
[11:18] <Nalioth> __filip_: dont change anything, just look
[11:18] <__filip_> Nalioth: okej
[11:19] <__filip_> what should i do next?
[11:21] <__filip_> Nalioth: what next?
[11:22] <znh> Sil4kka: how's the status?
[11:22] <Nalioth> __filip_: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:22] <Sil4kka> znh: it's asking what kind of monitor i have and stuff like that
[11:22] <__filip_> okej
[11:22] <znh> Sil4kka: great!
[11:23] <__filip_> you whant the results?
[11:24] <nfinitep1astik> anyone know to properly exract bz2 files using tar?
[11:24] <znh> nfinitep1astik: yes, tar -xvjpf
[11:24] <Nalioth> __filip_: no, compare the results with your fstab
[11:24] <Sil4kka> znh: ehh, i dont have my monitor manual anymore, and it says check the monitor database /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors to see if your monitor is there.
[11:24] <nfinitep1astik> znh: sankyuu
[11:24] <Sil4kka> znh: but there isnt a /doc/ folder there
[11:25] <znh> Sil4kka: hmm ok what's your monitor called?
[11:25] <Sil4kka> znh: i dont know :S
[11:26] <znh> Sil4kka: I bet there's a model number on it somewhere (mostly on the back or on the front)
[11:26] <Nalioth> nfinitep1astik: tar xvjf filename.tbz
[11:27] <nfinitep1astik> Nalioth: thanks ^.^d
[11:27] <Nalioth> nfinitep1astik: tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[11:27] <Sil4kka> znh: i think its: Digital PCXBV-FZ
[11:27] <znh> Sil4kka: ok perfect, will do a search
[11:27] <nfinitep1astik> yeah, thank god for autocomplete  because azureus has the longest name @.@
[11:28] <nfinitep1astik> er..the bz2 file name.....
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> btw anyone here using breezy ?
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> or upgraded to breezy ?
[11:30] <LaserLine> Hello, anyone here managed to Install Beagle on Hoary with RaserFS /
[11:30] <znh> Sil4kka: it can handle max resolution of 1280x1024, that's all I can find out, horSync and versync are the default I think
[11:31] <znh> LaserLine: *reiserfs?
[11:32] <LaserLine> znh Yup, Typo ...
[11:32] <znh> LaserLine: np
[11:32] <Sil4kka> znh: what is the default for them? there's 11 different options to choose from
[11:32] <LaserLine> I followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto and this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto but I get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1830
[11:33] <znh> Sil4kka: hmm.. hsync should be number 9 (31.5 - 79)
[11:34] <Sil4kka> znh: should i choose this then:  9  31.5 - 79.0; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz
[11:34] <znh> Sil4kka: that's number 9 indeed
[11:35] <Sil4kka> znh: what about vertical sync then
[11:35] <znh> Sil4kka: number one
[11:35] <spola> how do i make it that when you doubleclick the menubar the mindow gets minimized?
[11:37] <znh> spola: what window manager are you using?
[11:38] <Sil4kka> znh: where can i find my video card video memory amount
[11:38] <znh> Sil4kka: what videocard have you got?
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> znh, won't it be much better for you to ssh into his box?
[11:38] <Sil4kka> znh: Nvidia geforce ti4200 64mb
[11:39] <spola> znh, gnome
[11:39] <znh> wickedpuppy: then we might have to configure a hardware firewall
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> kk kk
[11:39] <znh> Sil4kka: then it's 64 MB
[11:40] <znh> spola: System->Behaviour.. unsure.. haven't used a slow wm since a few months
[11:40] <arachnion> hello there everyone
[11:40] <znh> hello arachnion
[11:40] <arachnion> I've been here a couple of times before
[11:40] <spola> what do you use?
[11:40] <arachnion> sound problems
[11:40] <arachnion> I'm just gonna try again:
[11:41] <Sil4kka> znh: now it saved the conf file
[11:41] <arachnion> I have an onboard AC97 sound card, and I don't seem to be getting any sound
[11:41] <arachnion> I have unmuted all channels, chmodded the device ok, and changed all sorts of configuration files
[11:41] <znh> spola: xfce4 was pretty awesome, fluxbox is very fast but not a great navigation.. window maker is quite good and fast, evilwm is way too buggy, KDE is user friendly but asks quite many system resources
[11:41] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, have you tried opening all mixer channels?
[11:41] <arachnion> nothing seems to work
[11:41] <arachnion> yes HiddenWolf
[11:42] <znh> Sil4kka: aight very good
[11:42] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, using Hoary I presume?
[11:42] <arachnion> yes
[11:42] <topyli> how to set the sticky bit on a dir so that new files all have specific permissions?
[11:42] <znh> Sil4kka: now, run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' again
[11:42] <spola> ill check some out
[11:42] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, any idea what kind of sound chip exactly? what kind of motherboard? old? new?
[11:42] <arachnion> all rather old
[11:42] <Sil4kka> znh: i get Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:43] <arachnion> that's my audio card
[11:43] <znh> Sil4kka: hmm.. what's the full error?
[11:43] <HiddenWolf> Sil4kka, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - in section device replace 'nv' with 'nvidia' - that's all the nvidia script does.
[11:43] <HiddenWolf> znh, nothing serious.
[11:43] <znh> HiddenWolf: thanks
[11:43] <Sil4kka> znh: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1845
[11:44] <HiddenWolf> Sil4kka, then, save and restart X.
[11:44] <KillerKiwi2005> Will Klik be in breezy ?
[11:44] <znh> HiddenWolf: might sound a bit assy.. but please ask before interrupting :P
[11:44] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, ...?
[11:45] <znh> Sil4kka: ah that errror
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> znh, I was under the assumption that any advice given here would be welcome.
[11:45] <nfinitep1astik> i guess i dl'ed a self extractly binary file for java...but it doesn't seem to be extracting nor does sun's site help any
[11:45] <znh> HiddenWolf: sure, I don't say that
[11:45] <nfinitep1astik> extracting*
[11:45] <k0p> hi all :)
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, best find out exactly what motherboard, what chip, and google a bit.
[11:45] <ragesoss> Question: How do I set a workgroup/domain name for Ubuntu?  When I installed regular Debian, at one point I was prompted for such a name, which I put as the same as my Windows workgroup, and as soon as it was up and running I had access to the shared material on the Windows computer.  But during my new Ubuntu (5.04) installation I was never prompted for anything like that.
[11:45] <znh> Sil4kka: typ 'sudo md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:46] <znh> '
[11:46] <arachnion> :( ok, ty HiddenWolf
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, sound infrastructure was revamped quite a bit in the development version, might be that it works in breezy, but I can't really advice you to upgrade at this piont.
[11:46] <arachnion> ok
[11:47] <Sil4kka> znh: i put sudo tee /var/lib/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum, and got: file or folder doesnt exist
[11:47] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, IE, it might help, it might not, and it might well be that it'd work at default but due to edited config files it won't still.
[11:47] <znh> Sil4kka: well then do what Hiddenwolf said..
[11:48] <arachnion> ah
[11:48] <arachnion> :(
[11:48] <arachnion> I forgot to back some of em up
[11:48] <arachnion> got some, not all
[11:48] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, do you have a seperate /home?
[11:48] <arachnion> yes
[11:48] <arachnion> I think so
[11:48] <arachnion> what do you mean 'separate'?
[11:48] <HiddenWolf> seperate partition.
[11:48] <arachnion> no
[11:49] <arachnion> not *yet*
[11:49] <HiddenWolf> Not to sound snobby, but get that. :)
[11:49] <arachnion> ;)
[11:49] <arachnion> I know
[11:49] <arachnion> I have a partition waiting to be fstabbed
[11:49] <Sil4kka> hiddenwolf,znh: now i replaced the nv with nvidia
[11:50] <arachnion> but, I want sound first.
[11:50] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, what you can do is pop in a Breezy-live cd, and see if sounds works there for you, if you have some -rw's lying around.
[11:50] <znh> Sil4kka: ok
[11:50] <arachnion> don't have any rw's, I don't mind "wasting" an r
[11:50] <nfinitep1astik> rm -rf always solves my problems......}=D
[11:50] <Sil4kka> znh: how did i restar x again
[11:50] <Sil4kka> restart*
[11:51] <znh> Sil4kka: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:51] <angelus__1969> can I (and how) use the external VGA on a laptop as a seperate desktop under Ubuntu??
[11:51] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, Might be more that one, if the daily is broken. but if it works in breezy, then all you have to do is dist-upgrade. If it doesn't, file a bug. :)
[11:52] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, sorry to be of so little help btw.
[11:52] <arachnion> maybe, I'll dist-upgrade, and reinstall ubuntu if it doesn't work
[11:52] <Sil4kka> znh: i didnt notice at first but when i put " sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" i got: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:Authentication Rejected
[11:52] <znh> angelus__1969: can you give some more details please
[11:52] <arachnion> It's a fresh install anyway
[11:53] <rendi> guy's i'm back
[11:53] <rendi> :o)
[11:53] <Sil4kka> znh: reason : None of the authentication protocols specified  are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:53] <rendi> cdda:///dev/hdc <== what mean this ??
[11:53] <rendi> i can't play that file in dir in xmms
[11:53] <znh> Sil4kka: odd.. but that has not anything to do with the nvidia drivers I think
[11:53] <znh> hi rendi
[11:53] <nfinitep1astik> rendi:  it's not music
[11:53] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, you might want to see if you can get crimsun to help you but he's usually around in 8-10 hours. (the guy that maintains alsa among other things)
[11:53] <angelus__1969> znh, it's a Compaq presario 1722, running Ubuntu 5.04 and I want to use the external VGA as a seperate desktop, preferably with it's own resolution, like a dualhead setup
[11:53] <Nalioth> angelus__1969: have you been to the wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  yet?
[11:53] <rendi> is music
[11:54] <youngcoder> is there a samba channel?
[11:54] <rendi> and filetype is *.wav
[11:54] <arachnion> yes, HiddenWolf, someone has advised that for me before
[11:54] <znh> angelus__1969: hmm yeah I understand now
[11:54] <arachnion> timezones are a bit of a problem for that
[11:54] <rendi> i can play with cd player but can't with xmss
[11:54] <rendi> znh can help me
[11:55] <spola> yo guys i have a problem: my "ISP" requires me to log on using a webmail interface, which means that everything that needs internet can't execute at boot time (ntp but also when x starts xchat, gaim, torrents etc...) now i now what wget command i need to type, but how do i make it happen right after getting my address ?
[11:55] <znh> rendi: can you please tell me what your problem again is?
[11:55] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, but in any case, if you could test it on breezy, live or installed, that'd be good. if it doesn't wok out of the box there, you should file a bug so that A you get help, and B it gets fixed.
[11:55] <angelus__1969> Nalioth, yes, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for
[11:55] <rendi> ouw
[11:55] <arachnion> ok Hiddenwolf
[11:55] <arachnion> I'll try Breezy
[11:56] <arachnion> and post the bug if I need to
[11:56] <youngcoder> does anyone know of a samba help channel?
[11:56] <arachnion> anyway
[11:56] <arachnion> just looked it up, Breezy should be stable by october?
[11:56] <rendi> i have file on cdda:///dev/hdc
[11:56] <rendi> and how to play that file on xmms
[11:56] <rendi> is *.wav
[11:56] <znh> rendi: ok moment, have to help parents with there MS Windooz
[11:56] <rendi> ok
[11:57] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, best of luck, and sorry.
[11:57] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, no problem
[11:58] <z0unds> what would be the best partition type? (to have games on and play from)? ext2?
[11:58] <znh> rendi: ok, back
[11:58] <Seveas> spola, in the /etc/network/interfaces file, add a line saying 'post-up wget http://,,,,,,'
[11:58] <rendi> god news ?
[11:58] <znh> rendi: god news :D
[11:58] <rendi> :o)
[11:58] <znh> rendi: hdc is your cdrom device?
[11:59] <rendi> yup
[11:59] <rendi> i put BEP on it
[11:59] <znh> rendi: and what's on that cdrom? (what kind of audio/type)
[11:59] <rendi> wav
[11:59] <arachnion> bbl
[11:59] <rendi> i can play with cd Player but can't with xmms
[12:00] <znh> rendi: ok, first make a directory in your home directoy by typing 'mkdir ~/cdrom'
[12:00] <rendi> and then
[12:01] <znh> rendi: mount it with your cdrom device with 'sudo mount /dev/hdc ~/cdrom'
[12:01] <HappyFool> rendi: have you set the xmms output to esd? (esound) ?
[12:01] <znh> HappyFool: I don't think that's the prob
[12:01] <Nalioth_zZz> znh: why dont you have rendi symlink /media/cdrom to his homedi?
[12:01] <rp78> hi all, i installed xmms. where do i find it? it's not automatically added to the applications menu
[12:02] <znh> Nalioth_zZz: because I want to explain how to mount cdrom devices.. then people would know how things work
[12:02] <HappyFool> rp78: it should be under applications -> sound & video
[12:02] <Nalioth_zZz> znh: ah
[12:03] <znh> Nalioth_zZz: but I understand your point of view
[12:03] <rendi> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[12:03] <rendi> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:03] <rendi> err like that
[12:03] <znh> rendi: mk.. does /media/cdrom exist?
[12:04] <rendi> yes
[12:04] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[12:04] <rendi> media/cdrom$
[12:04] <znh> rendi: aight, is it bound to the cdrom?
[12:04] <rendi> ?
[12:05] <rendi> what mean bound ??
[12:05] <znh> rendi: does /media/cdrom contain your cdrom files
[12:05] <rendi> nothing
[12:05] <rendi> is blank
[12:05] <znh> rendi: hmm ok, can you post your /etc/fstab on pastebin?
[12:06] <rendi> my file on cd sit in this dir cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:06] <znh> rendi: I think xmms has troubles accessing that place ;)
[12:06] <rendi> i think too
[12:06] <rendi> soo how to tell xmms in right place
[12:07] <HappyFool> rendi: you said 'cd player' can play the cd?
[12:07] <rendi> yes can
[12:07] <rendi> is autoplay
[12:07] <znh> HappyFool: I think he means directly, without motherboard
[12:07] <HappyFool> you cannot, as far as i know, mount a music CD as a filesystem
[12:08] <Nalioth_zZz> rendi: when a cdrom is in your machine it will also show up in /media/cdrom, cdrom0 or cdrom1, etc
[12:08] <nfinitep1astik> you cant mount cdfs?
[12:08] <LaserLine> How do I enable Extended User Attributes on ReiserFS ? and Hoary... ?
[12:08] <HappyFool> i recommend checking that xmms works at all (e.g., with sounds in /usr/share/sound) and then try the 'CD play' option again
[12:08] <rendi> usualy is /media/cdrom
[12:08] <rp78> are there filipinos here
[12:08] <rendi> but today in cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:09] <HappyFool> rendi: is it a normal music CD ? one you can put in a CD player?
[12:09] <rendi> yes normal
[12:09] <znh> then it aren't wave files..
[12:10] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: what's cdfs? someone here claimed a few weeks ago one could mount a music CD, but I couldn't get much out of him
[12:10] <nfinitep1astik> znh: then it arent?
[12:10] <arachnion> .cda
[12:10] <znh> nfinitep1astik: are not
[12:11] <nfinitep1astik> HappyFool: its the filesystem for cds
[12:11] <rendi> in xmms option i can't change to cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:11] <nfinitep1astik> znh: rofl, i was just pokin fun at your sleep deprivation
[12:11] <rendi> it always in to /media/cdrom
[12:11] <nfinitep1astik> HappyFool: well, let me try
[12:11] <znh> yea let me cry too
[12:11] <Decadent> hi
[12:12] <znh> hi Decadent .. your name is quite funny here in holland ;-)
[12:12] <Decadent> :)
[12:12] <arachnion> znh, holland? Hallo ik woon in Belgi ;-)
[12:12] <HappyFool> I get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'cdfs'"
[12:12] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, #ubuntu-nl
[12:12] <LaserLine> After Installing the BEAGLE, and running 'beagled' do I need to run it manually or does it run automatically ?
[12:12] <znh> arachnion: hallo ;) (english please here in this channel, some people find our dutch anonying :P)
[12:13] <arachnion> yes yes ;) ofcourse
[12:13] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, that's fine, I'm downloading Breezy as we speak
[12:13] <AdmiralCrunch> I have a tad bit of a problem right now. When I try to boot up into GNOME (I am in Fluxbox right now), I cant, even in failsafe. It says that something around xsessions, I dont exactly remember it, I am sorry for being very non-descriptive.
[12:13] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, znh, don't forget #ubuntu-nl if you prefer native-language advice. :)
[12:14] <arachnion> ok HiddenWolf
[12:14] <spola> thx Seveas
[12:14] <znh> HiddenWolf: sure, but 'hallo' isn't only dutch ;)
[12:14] <HappyFool> hmm. I can't figure out to play CD's in xmms, to be honest
[12:14] <HiddenWolf> znh, Quite aware of that. :)
[12:14] <znh> HiddenWolf: same here
[12:15] <rendi> i think i have to switch to m$ and play that song
[12:15] <nfinitep1astik> HappyFool: yep, my hdc is my cdrom mounted as a udf fs
[12:15] <rp78> anyone who can help me with the right version of libmad for gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.10-1ubuntu7_i386
[12:15] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: udf is for dvd's, i thought?
[12:15] <nfinitep1astik> HappyFool: it is ^.^
[12:16] <rendi> bash: cd: cdda:///dev/hdc: No such file or directory
[12:16] <rendi> lol
[12:16] <rendi> i can open with nautilus but can't with bash
[12:17] <nfinitep1astik> HappyFool: it was the only thing with data i had on it....ever since i got my dvd-r...cd-r's have mysteriously disappeared
[12:18] <Nalioth_zZz> ask and run ask and run
[12:18] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: some of us are still in the dark ages :P
[12:18] <Seveas> rendi, nautilus uses gnome-vfs
[12:18] <HappyFool> Nalioth_zZz: do you know how to play a cd in xmms ? i really can't figure it out
[12:18] <Seveas> cdda:/// and other url-like files are handled by that
[12:20] <Nalioth_zZz> HappyFool: i have no clue. y'all seem to have tried it all
[12:20] <Nalioth_zZz> try file:///media/cdrom as an address
[12:21] <nfinitep1astik> so has rendi's problem been figured out?
[12:21] <HappyFool> no
[12:21] <nfinitep1astik> rofl
[12:21] <HappyFool> but if you know how to play a cd in xmms, let us know
[12:21] <rendi> :)
[12:21] <HappyFool> Nalioth_zZz: hmm, no. also /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom don't work
[12:21] <nfinitep1astik> did we ever find out what was in his fstab?
[12:22] <HappyFool> there's a 'CD audio player' in the input plugins, and it tells me how many songs are on the cd, but i can't get the cd to play
[12:23] <s00d> Hi. I'm trying to lock my /etc/resolv.conf as per the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690. when I enter "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf", I get this error message: "chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf" What am I doing wrong?
[12:23] <nfinitep1astik> no one have beef if i help rendi?
[12:23] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: enlighten us all
[12:23] <rendi> how to enter cdda:///dev/hdc in fstab
[12:23] <rendi> i mean new line on it
[12:24] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: you dont put that line it is...fstab is to identify the hardware and where it's mounted
[12:24] <rendi> this my mine /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:24] <HappyFool> s00d: what filesystem is / (or /etc) on? ext3?
[12:24] <nfinitep1astik> ok, then go to your /media/cdrom0
[12:25] <rendi> ls
[12:25] <rendi> blank
[12:25] <rendi> no file
[12:25] <rendi> my file still on cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:25] <nfinitep1astik> one sec
[12:25] <rendi> ok
[12:25] <s00d> HappyFool: ext3, I'm sure.
[12:26] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, writing the cd ;)
[12:26] <HappyFool> s00d: hrm. does 'lsattr /etc/resolv.conf' work?
[12:26] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: after iso 9660, add 'cdfs'
[12:27] <s00d> HappyFool: Same again : "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, right
[12:27] <s00d> "
[12:27] <nfinitep1astik> make sure the comma is between iso9660 and cdfs with no spaces
[12:27] <rendi> ok wait
[12:27] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, how about mount|grep '/ '
[12:27] <ssh_rdp> Is it possible to install ubuntu without burning the cd(I have a grub installed)
[12:28] <s00d> HappyFool : "/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"
[12:28] <HappyFool> s00d: how about 'lsattr /bin/ls' ?
[12:28] <rendi> nfinitep1astik you mean like this /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660,cdfs
[12:29] <s00d> HappyFool: "----------------- /bin/ls"
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: yes
[12:29] <rendi> done and then
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: you'll need to reboot
[12:29] <HappyFool> s00d: puzzling.   mount|grep '/etc'         ?
[12:29] <rendi> wooow
[12:29] <rendi> what about without reboot
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> no worries, we'll still be here
[12:29] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: changing fstab does not require a reboot
[12:30] <rendi> can remount it without reboot ?
[12:30] <nfinitep1astik> try it
[12:31] <s00d> HappyFool: That doesn't return anything.
[12:31] <ompaul> where would I find the person with the authority (say it like they do in south park) or even the interest to figure out why I can't connect to the torrent service to hand away more ubuntu - kanotix is winning for the first time in months today :)
[12:31] <HappyFool> s00d: erk. how about 'lsattr /etc/passwd'
[12:32] <s00d> HappyFool "----------------- /etc/passwd"
[12:33] <HappyFool> s00d: 'ls -l /etc/resolv.conf' ?
[12:33] <s00d> HappyFool :"lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 31 2005-09-03 00:31 /etc/resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"
[12:33] <HappyFool> s00d: ah-ha
[12:33] <s00d> What did I do?
[12:33] <wickedpuppy> anyone got problem with System -> Log out in breezy ??
[12:34] <HappyFool> s00d: try chattr'ing the file linked to instead
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> when i go there my menus hang
[12:34] <HappyFool> s00d: although I'm definitely not an expert on this
[12:34] <s00d> Um.
[12:34] <s00d> Oh, right.
[12:34] <s00d> Gotcha.
[12:34] <rendi> umm dc
[12:34] <sebest> hello is there something new with restricted kernel modules on ubuntu?
[12:35] <rendi> i have remount it and then ?
[12:35] <s00d> HappyFool: Nope. Still the same thing.
[12:35] <HappyFool> sebest: in hoary? (ubuntu 5.04)
[12:35] <sebest> my nvidia modules are no more in /lib/modules , but in /lib/linux-restricted
[12:35] <sebest> HappyFool, no breezy
[12:35] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, how about 'ls -l /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf'
[12:35] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, just one more question: if I have installed breezy, and my sound doesn't work, do I try to fix it, or post the bug immediately?
[12:36] <s00d> HappyFool: "-rw-r--r--  1 root root 75 2005-09-03 11:22 /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"
[12:36] <HappyFool> s00d: so it looks a like a normal file on a normal ext3 filesystem
[12:37] <HappyFool> s00d: is /etc/resolvconf or /etc/resolvconf/run maybe a link too?
[12:37] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, if it doesn't work on a clean/default install,; you can file a bug immediatly. But it's better to try and find out what causes it. IE, a muted mixer is not as bad as a missing kernel module or messed up alsa.
[12:37] <arachnion> ok HiddenWolf
[12:37] <arachnion> << installing breezy
[12:37] <Smegzor> I have installed Windows 2000 Pro on a 2nd partition and Windows insisted on de-activating my primary partition.  How do I go about getting grub back so that I can dual boot to the OS of my choice?
[12:38] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, be sure you've backed up your stuff!
[12:38] <nfinitep1astik> smegzor: use a live cd to access your linux partition
[12:38] <arachnion> yes HiddenWolf it's fine
[12:38] <rendi> nfinitep1astik and then ?
[12:38] <Nalioth_zZz> Smegzor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:38] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, Best of luck. :)
[12:38] <nfinitep1astik> even better
[12:39] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: still cant acess it normally?
[12:39] <Smegzor> :D  thanks.  thats the info I was hoping you'd give me :)  I could spend all night trying to find that myself :O
[12:39] <rendi> yup
[12:39] <s00d> HappyFool: Maybe?? I don't know --> "lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2005-09-03 00:31 run -> /dev/shm/resolvconf"
[12:39] <HappyFool> s00d: ah-ha
[12:40] <bummba> hiya
[12:40] <HappyFool> s00d: i think /dev/shm is a magic filesystem
[12:40] <HappyFool> s00d: check out 'mount|grep /dev/shm' -- it's type tmpfs
[12:40] <s00d> HappyFool: oh?
[12:40] <bummba> has any of you ever encountered that gnome did not fully start?
[12:40] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: try putting a data cd for me?
[12:40] <bummba> gdm come up fine but when I try to login it hangs
[12:40] <s00d> HappyFool: Yup "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)"
[12:41] <HappyFool> s00d: let me quickly scan that howto to see what you're trying to do...
[12:41] <bummba> nothing in the log
[12:41] <bummba> and no idea what I could do
[12:41] <bummba> any ideas?
[12:41] <HappyFool> s00d: oh, that instruction applies if you don't install resolvconf
[12:41] <Seveas> !xhangs
[12:41] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:41] <nalioths_dog> bummba, no error msgs?
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: i think you are following step 1 -- i think step 2 is an alternative, not an addition
[12:42] <s00d> HappyFool: I uninstalled it, because that method doesn't seem to be working? :-/
[12:42] <norhted> hi everyone, i need some help about GRUB
[12:42] <rendi> Don't Phunk With My Heart.wav
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: oh. try uninstalling with the '--purge' option
[12:42] <rendi> Location cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:42] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: not a music cd, a data one
[12:42] <bummba> nalioths_dog: nope...nothing in gdm log and nothing in X log
[12:42] <Seveas> bummba, login in text mode, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit
[12:42] <Seveas> and clean out /tmp
[12:42] <bummba> nalioths_dog: and all the other logs as well not
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: are you using aptitude or apt-get?
[12:42] <rendi> this is cd music
[12:43] <s00d> HappyFool: Um. I already removed it with synaptic. Do I have to reinstall it before I do that?
[12:43] <rendi> what ur mean data ?
[12:43] <HappyFool> s00d: hang on, let me check what the synaptic method is
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: ohhh maybe I should say that it doesn't behave like that all the time
[12:43] <s00d> HappyFool: Thanks
[12:43] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: anything else that's NOT music....i just need to make sure your drive is mounted correctly
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: just sometimes...and kill X and let it restart and try to login again won't help
[12:43] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, in synaptic, find to the 'resolvconf' package, right-click and choose 'Mark for compelete removal' and the 'apply'
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: a real complete restart does only help
[12:44] <Seveas> bummba, do you oftern run things as root?
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: nope
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: I use only sudo...
[12:44] <s00d> HappyFool: And than can I try locking my resolvconf again?
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: and only when it's needed
[12:44] <nalioths_dog> bummba, do you use sudo to start gui apps?
[12:44] <scanwinder> what are .diff files and how do i use them?(ive got 1 that patches dillo with tab and frame support)
[12:44] <bummba> nalioths_dog: nope...never
[12:44] <HappyFool> s00d: yeah, though you might need to create an /etc/resolv.conf first
[12:45] <nalioths_dog> scanwinder, open a terminal and "man patch"
[12:45] <norhted> i want to add my windows to GRUB menu.lst
[12:45] <bummba> Seveas: when I login in I see that gnome begins to start but the splashscreen does not come and it hangs at that point forever
[12:45] <topyli> is it better to upgrade to breezy, or do a clean install?
[12:46] <sorush20> anyone here using Lycos or Hotmail or Yahoo webmail.. well what happened to the extara editable composing features..  it all seems to be plain text now days even gmail..has anyone been using a webmail service that gives you spell checking and smiles and html formating..
[12:46] <norhted> the example in the menu.lst didnot work
[12:46] <s00d> HappyFool: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[12:46] <ompaul> !grub
[12:46] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:46] <nalioths_dog> topyli, upgrade. this is not windows
[12:46] <HappyFool> s00d: heh. np ;)
[12:47] <s00d> Hopefully, no more DNS problems. :-p
[12:47] <ompaul> norhted that ubotu stuff should be useful
[12:47] <HappyFool> ah-ha! i know how to play a cd in xmms.
[12:47] <HappyFool> rendi: you still around?
[12:47] <topyli> Nalioth_zZz: on my work box i just had a hard time. did work eventually though. also, this was not very recently, so things might have improved
[12:47] <norhted> ompaul, what is ubotu
[12:47] <s00d> Is there a good c++ bittorrent client for linux?
[12:47] <rendi> yes HappyFool
[12:47] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:47] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:47] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, is your music cd in the drive?
[12:47] <rendi> how ?
[12:47] <rendi> yes
[12:48] <ompaul> tell norhted about grub
[12:48] <Nalioth_zZz> topyli: i just tried today with a daily on my imac, and still no dice
[12:48] <Dethread> hi, I have a problem connecting to my university's network via VPN. Can someone help me?
[12:48] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, first thing is to check your audio output. right-click on the xmms window (say on the X in the bottom-right corner) and choose Options -> Preferences
[12:48] <topyli> Nalioth_zZz: ok. btw, what the hell is "windows"? :_)
[12:48] <nalioths_dog> s00d, bittornado
[12:48] <ompaul> norhted, I will ask the bot again and you can grab the urls from there
[12:48] <falemagn> hello
[12:48] <ompaul> !grub
[12:48] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:48] <nalioths_dog> s00d, woops, you said c++
[12:48] <rendi> then
[12:48] <bummba> hmm annoying somehow
[12:48] <falemagn> guys, is there a way to bypass ubuntu's partitioning tool at installation time? It's not able to detect the partitions on one of the hdd's I have
[12:48] <norhted> ompaul, thnx :)
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, what does the button under 'Output Plugin' say?
[12:49] <ompaul> norhted, np
[12:49] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: what do you want it to detect?
[12:49] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, ehm, the partitions I already have?
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: just the first word or two is ok
[12:49] <falemagn> it doesnt see it
[12:49] <rendi> eSound
[12:49] <s00d> nalioths_dog: Yeah, I'm tryng to see if I can avoid a python client. IT's a bit heavy on my system.
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: great
[12:49] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: well duh =P...but what partition is it not recognizing?
[12:49] <bummba> falemagn: what kind of partition is it?
[12:50] <rendi> and then
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, under 'Input plugins' (just above) do you see 'CD Audio Player' ?
[12:50] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, it doesn't see _any_ partitions
[12:50] <rendi> i see
[12:50] <bummba> falemagn: so there is probably any :)
[12:50] <rendi> configure it ?
[12:50] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: let's try; don't change anything though
[12:50] <falemagn> bummba, you'd think I know whether or not I have partitions on my hdd...
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: click on that entry, and click configure
[12:50] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: do you have an existing filesystem on your hdd(s)?
[12:50] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, yes, of course
[12:50] <bummba> falemagn: hehe..does it detect the drive?
[12:50] <rendi> ok
[12:51] <falemagn> bummba, it does, of course.
[12:51] <nfinitep1astik> bummba: lol
[12:51] <HappyFool> rendi: what do the 'Device' and 'Directory' entries say? (under CD audio player configuration)
[12:51] <bummba> nfinitep1astik: the filesystem is not needed for the partitioning
[12:51] <rendi> dev/cdrom
[12:51] <phrizer> is it generally true that linux/gnome feels less responsive than say windows XP? or just in my system? ;o
[12:51] <falemagn> I know that partition table of that hdd is somewhat non-standard, but fdisk is able to handle that drive properly
[12:51] <rendi> dir /cdrom/
[12:51] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, good
[12:52] <rendi> lol
[12:52] <rendi> and then
[12:52] <bummba> falemagn: try cfdisk
[12:52] <phrizer> I'm finding scrolling in a window for example, is interrupting a mp3 playing. and stuff.
[12:52] <HappyFool> rendi: click 'cancel', and 'cancel' again to get back to xmms
[12:52] <pippijn> hi all
[12:52] <falemagn> bummba, the problem is that I cant
[12:52] <rendi> yes
[12:52] <reiki> phrizer: mine is actually MORE respnsive, but I'm coming from an old and "dirty" WinXP installation into a fresh Ubuntu installation
[12:52] <falemagn> bummba, the problem is that I can't seem able to go past that stage in the installation
[12:52] <bummba> falemagn: ohh shit...forgot :)
[12:52] <HappyFool> rendi: now, right click on xmms again and choose 'play directory'
[12:52] <falemagn> without configuring a root directory
[12:52] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: by chance....you can see your hda in the BIOS right......?
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: scroll up until you see 'cdrom' (under /)
[12:53] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, I can see my hda from anywhere
[12:53] <rendi> and then
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: click on that, click OK and then press the 'play' button on XMMS
[12:53] <rendi> is blank
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: that's ok; it's a 'fake' directory
[12:53] <phrizer> hmm
[12:53] <rendi> ok then
[12:53] <falemagn> the problem is that the partitioning tool of ubuntu must be thinking the partition table is invalid and hence doesn't display any partitions
[12:53] <bummba> is the breezy stuff on the mirrors?
[12:54] <bummba> maybe an update would solve the gnome startup problem
[12:54] <MarkAngels> Hi, I get timed out when I try to access ubuntuforums.org. Is it down? I need help installing a wifi usb dongle
[12:54] <HappyFool> rendi: is it working?
[12:54] <rendi> nothing
[12:54] <bummba> can't seem to find anything on the forums about my problem
[12:54] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: have you tried using fdisk?
[12:54] <rendi> is blank
[12:54] <rendi> :)
[12:54] <HappyFool> rendi: what's blank?
[12:54] <rendi> i can't find any file on it
[12:54] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, fdisk, as said, works. But I can't use fdisk to install ubuntu, can I?
[12:55] <rendi> on /cdrom
[12:55] <falemagn> I dont need to repartition the drivers
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: there aren't files there
[12:55] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: no but you can check your hd's integrity
[12:55] <rendi> yes
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: it's just a way to tell xmms to play the music cd
[12:55] <falemagn> I just need to tell the installation program to map the partitions to certain directories
[12:55] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, the hdd is fine
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: click 'OK' in the directory selection window; you should see 'CD AUDIO TRACK 01' appear in the xmms window
[12:55] <rendi> my file on cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:56] <HappyFool> rendi: the files will not appear; you cannot use this method to rip .WAV files from the cd
[12:56] <HappyFool> rendi: only to play it
[12:57] <rendi> same can't play with xmms
[12:57] <rendi> only cd player
[12:57] <topyli> someone please upload on the web a good sources.list for breezy
[12:57] <falemagn> so, no way to bypass that partitioning tool?
[12:57] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: not that im aware of
[12:57] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: i've yet to encounter a problem like that
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, let's try one more time
[12:58] <falemagn> too bad, no ubuntu for me
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: do you have xmms open?
[12:58] <rendi> ok
[12:58] <rendi> yes
[12:58] <nfinitep1astik> or just format c:
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, type Ctrl+L
[12:58] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, yeah, sure :)
[12:58] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: a new window should appear
[12:58] <rendi> yes
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: type    /cdrom    there, and press enter
[12:59] <HappyFool> rendi: your CD should start playing
[12:59] <rendi> ye splay
[12:59] <rendi> play
[12:59] <HappyFool> rendi: you should see the time changing on xmms
[12:59] <HappyFool> *yay*
[12:59] <rendi> but can't hear a song
[12:59] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, where can I make a bug report?
[12:59] <nfinitep1astik> lmao
[12:59] <HappyFool> change the volume
[12:59] <rendi> lol
[12:59] <rendi> volume is full
[12:59] <norhted> ompaul, i have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown
[12:59] <rendi> hahaha
[12:59] <nfinitep1astik> bugzilla.mozilla.org
[12:59] <HappyFool> *collapse*
[01:00] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, ehm, somehow I dont think thats the bugtracker for ubuntu?
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> oh er..
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> whups
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> sorry, i was helping with someone with firefox and that was my last clippy
[01:00] <reiki> do some programs need certain sound systems? I mean... is it possible he's set up for alsa and XMMS is looking for oss?
[01:00] <HappyFool> rendi: xmms has a separate sound control
[01:00] <HappyFool> no, you said the output plugin was esound, remember?
[01:01] <topyli> xmms is legacy anyway
[01:01] <nfinitep1astik> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[01:01] <rendi> ic
[01:01] <rendi> yes
[01:02] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, i need a cup of tea. fiddle around and see if you can get it working
[01:02] <norhted> i have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown
[01:02] <reiki> "figddle around" is a technical term I've used often :)
[01:03] <rendi> :)
[01:03] <reiki> s/fiddle/figddle
[01:03] <rendi> brb reboot my pc and switch to m$ to play my cd
[01:03] <nfinitep1astik> norhted: is your fstab setup for it?
[01:04] <norhted> nfinitep1astik, nope :( i just added the second HDD after installation
[01:04] <nfinitep1astik> i swear xmms likes to only play 20 songs out of the 1000 in the play list
[01:04] <Seveas> norhted, put the output of fdisk -l on the pastebin please
[01:05] <HappyFool> well, the method to play a CD is rather obscure, imho
[01:06] <norhted> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353504
[01:07] <HappyFool> gah, bmp is as arcane
[01:07] <topyli> reiki: "figddle" sounds a lot better in this context :-)
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, I am happy and unhappy with your situation, unhappy cos I can't give you an answer and happy because I don't run that other stuff :) however that being said there is an example which includes a thing called chainloader in the menu.lst so make sure you have all that example in there
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, with the changes that you spoke about
[01:08] <norhted> Seveas, do you want me to paste the menu.lst also?
[01:08] <reiki> topyli: I'm figddling around with trying to get my microphone to actually be recorded in the Sound Recorder app :)
[01:08] <norhted> ompaul, :)
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, pasting that would be useful
[01:08] <Seveas> norhted, would be helpful :)
[01:09] <topyli> reiki: happy figddling ;-)
[01:09] <reiki> danke
[01:09] <norhted> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353506
[01:10] <ompaul> who is in charge of the ubuntu torrent server side (which I can't connect to) cos I would like them to check it out I can't connect
[01:10] <reiki> Seveas: I opened alsa mixer as you instructed yesterday. Tabbed to teh mic vontrols. It won't let me raise volume, however farther down there are capture controls and those are both up. I still can't get microphone working
[01:10] <Seveas> ompaul, the thing is often broken
[01:10] <Seveas> reiki, try amixer in a terminal
[01:10] <Seveas> and paste the output on the pastebin
[01:11] <ompaul> norhted, where are you going with boot?
[01:11] <ompaul> norhted, please paste the whole menu.lst
[01:11] <norhted> ompaul, i did it
[01:12] <ompaul> norhted, ehhhhhh that is for one operating system only - so why the grub?>
[01:12] <Seveas> norhted, move the XP entry outide the debian automagic kernel list or you'll lose it on updates
[01:12] <norhted> ompaul, line 124 to 128 there is an xp
[01:13] <Seveas> norhted, did you install windows after installing Ubuntu?
[01:13] <norhted> Seveas, ok
[01:13] <reiki> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1849
[01:13] <norhted> Seveas, no the xp was installed the HDD long time ago. but when i am installing the ubuntu this second HDD was not attached to my computer
[01:13] <ompaul> norhted, and remove the wood boot from that chainloader should be happy without it
[01:14] <ompaul> norhted, s/wood/word
[01:14] <norhted> ompaul, sorry i couldnt get it
[01:14] <Seveas> norhted, that might confuse windows
[01:14] <ompaul> norhted, read that version
[01:14] <norhted> ompaul, do you mean `remove the boot line?`
[01:15] <Seveas> reiki, the capture for 'Mix' is off
[01:15] <ompaul> I just posted :)
[01:15] <ompaul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353510
[01:16] <norhted> Seveas, should i install LILO instead of GRUB?
[01:16] <Seveas> norhted, that will not help too much
[01:16] <Seveas> what was the exact error again?>
[01:17] <norhted> Seveas, what should i do then?
[01:17] <mejobloggs> can you guys help me with svn on ubuntu?
[01:17] <mejobloggs> i get this: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
[01:17] <yonil> I've installed amaroK (using apt-get) and it just doesn't produce any sound ... -- any ideas ?
[01:17] <norhted> Filesystem type mismatch or Unknown filesystem, i dont remember.
[01:17] <ompaul> yonil, does anything else create sound?
[01:18] <Sybaek> How can I get my Fluxbox to be selectable in the graphical startup that Ubuntu has?
[01:18] <Bobulor> seveas: hurray
[01:18] <norhted> Seveas, ompaul, anyway thnx
[01:19] <Bobulor> seveas: anyway, I have two issues. My sound only selectively works, and I hate my mplayerplug-in
[01:19] <Bobulor> seveas, I have totem movie player, is there a way to make mozilla use that by default?
[01:20] <Seveas> not yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for mplayer :)
[01:20] <youngcoder> anyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?
[01:20] <Bobulor> seveas, i dont know what that means but ok
[01:20] <Seveas> not yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for *totem*
[01:20] <HappyFool> do I report bugs in multiverse to bugzilla.ubuntu.com, or is that for main/restricted only ?
[01:21] <Bobulor> ok
[01:21] <youngcoder> anyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?
[01:21] <mxpxpod> does anyone here use gdesklets? I'm having a problem where if I start gdesklets, it crashes X
[01:21] <Bobulor> seveas what's this breezy and hoary and other stuff i keep hearing about that I've also seen on my Synaptic program?
[01:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder:   sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[01:22] <HappyFool> !breezy
[01:22] <ubotu> somebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[01:22] <youngcoder> HappyFool, will that start all the daemons?
[01:22] <HappyFool> youngcoder: that should start smbd and nmbd
[01:22] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you can take a look inside; (try 'less /etc/init.d/samba') -- i think it starts nmbd first
[01:23] <reiki> Seveas: turned on cature for Mix and still nothing. I'll experiment. I'd love to get this working but it's not a high priority. Some folks have more important problems
[01:23] <reiki> :)
[01:23] <youngcoder> HappyFool, it said failed
[01:23] <youngcoder> lol
[01:23] <HappyFool> youngcoder: then perhaps your config file is broken
[01:23] <youngcoder> lol
[01:23] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you did remember the 'sudo', right?
[01:24] <youngcoder> i was in root terminal
[01:24] <HappyFool> youngcoder: try 'restart' instead of start
[01:24] <Bobulor> seveas: every time I load a movie on mozilla, mplayer comes in and (maybe), loads the whole thing. But then it just sits there cranking away a whole-lot-a-nothing.
[01:25] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you can use 'testparm' to check your samba config file
[01:25] <youngcoder> i did
[01:25] <youngcoder> it said ok
[01:25] <youngcoder> and restart passed
[01:25] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ah, so it was running already
[01:26] <youngcoder> yes but not working
[01:26] <reiki> Seveas: in alsamixer... if I toggle capture ON for Mix.... it UNtoggles capture for Mic. Is that normal?
[01:26] <mumbles> dammit
[01:27] <mumbles> i need to wait trill my dad drills though the wall so i can get the server online again
[01:27] <youngcoder> HappyFool, my windows machine still wont recognize this comp
[01:28] <youngcoder> HappyFool, do a lot of people have problems with this?
[01:28] <HappyFool> youngcoder: samba can be tricky to setup
[01:28] <HappyFool> youngcoder: can you ping the windows machine (using IP addresses)? and vice versa?
[01:29] <youngcoder> yes
[01:30] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, do you have an anonymous share in the samba config? that will let us test fairly easily
[01:30] <youngcoder> YES
[01:30] <youngcoder> oops sorry
[01:31] <yonil> ompaul, yes Beep-media-player (similiar to xmms) does
[01:32] <elvirolo> hi
[01:33] <slept> hello
[01:33] <ompaul> yonil, what is in /etc/issue?
[01:33] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, what does 'smbclient -L localhost' do on your machine?
[01:33] <elvirolo> is it safe to upgrade to breezy ? i'm currently using it on a separate partition for testing (from a fresh install) but it was wondering if there were still issues about upgrading from hoary
[01:34] <HappyFool> youngcoder: just press <enter> for the password
[01:34] <HappyFool> youngcoder: and don't paste here ;)
[01:34] <yonil> ompaul, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l<NEW LINE>You have new mail in /var/mail/yoni
[01:34] <youngcoder> lol
[01:34] <youngcoder> ok
[01:34] <youngcoder> gimmie a sec i got a phone call
[01:34] <ompaul> yonil, I was curious cos I could not find beep
[01:35] <yonil> ompaul,  huh ? apt-get install beep-media-player
[01:35] <yonil> ompaul, xmms also works fine ..
[01:35] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[01:35] <ompaul> yonil, ehhh it helps if I also include -player :)
[01:36] <yonil> ;)
[01:36] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i think breezy is still for developers, not for end-users
[01:36] <ompaul> !breezy
[01:36] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[01:36] <elvirolo> HappyFool: well, it is, but they have passed the feature freeze haven't they ?
[01:36] <slept> this is of topic, but does anyone have expierience with beos ? I need to find bone or nfs
[01:37] <elvirolo> i'm currently using breezy, and i like it, it works better than hoary here
[01:37] <yonil> anyone knows why possibly i don't get sound from amaroK ? (it doesn't seem like it even plays the song when i double click it)
[01:37] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i don't know; however, everytime i come onto irc there is someone with a weird new breezy problem
[01:38] <elvirolo> HappyFool: you can't even imagine the number of weird probs i have with *hoary* !
[01:38] <elvirolo> my scanner doesn't work although it worked on all my previous distros
[01:39] <dtamas> Plase help! My desktop fully unvisible! Only taskbar works. What can I do? I use breezy.
[01:39] <HappyFool> elvirolo: yeah, but hoary isn't a moving target for fixes. anyway, if you can risk losing your machine, or taking time to fix odd problems, go for it.
[01:39] <elvirolo> my KDE menu doesn't show have the entries it should show
[01:39] <elvirolo> etc...
[01:39] <joee> where do I find my .profile file=
[01:39] <elvirolo> HappyFool: well, again, it works,on my separate partition
[01:40] <ompaul> yonil, perhaps it is more of a Kde thing - I strictly gnome except when I'm not :) apt-get install kubuntu-desktop might shove some stuff in the backgroud which would help, but for to test it I have to d/l 27 megs of stuff over a 1 meg line that is being used to feed a linux torrent :) but I shall install same
[01:40] <HappyFool> joee: in /home/joeee (or whatever your home directory is)
[01:41] <ompaul> dtamas, ctrl+alt+f2
[01:41] <elvirolo> dtamas: and then upgrade, and then hope ...
[01:41] <yonil> ompaul, lol, but is there a gnome amaroK-like application ?
[01:41] <ompaul> dtamas, then login and run the command >> killall nautilus <<
[01:41] <joee> HappyFool and then just vi .profile ?
[01:42] <elvirolo> yonil: yes, but it's not quite as good
[01:42] <elvirolo> yonil: it is called quodlibet
[01:42] <ompaul> yonil, maybe  rhythmbox but I am not sure
[01:42] <HappyFool> joee: yeah. 'vi ~/.profile' will work too, from anywhere
[01:42] <yonil> ok thanks ompaul, elvirolo
[01:42] <HappyFool> joee: you may want to check exactly when .profile is used -- i think it's only for 'login' shells. Check out 'man bash'
[01:42] <elvirolo> rythmbox box is not way as powerful as amarok i'm afraid to say :(
[01:42] <dazvid> I need help installing GRUB onto my windows partition.. LILO is currently installed and doesnt work with my XP. When trying to install to my hda1, it says its a read-only partition.. how can I make it writeable?
[01:43] <elvirolo> yonil: i've used quodlibet quite a lot, and it's the closest to amarok you'll get, AFAIK
[01:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1850
[01:43] <joee> HappyFool: yeah I needs to be, because I want to set this EV in my profile ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle; export ORACLE_BASE
[01:43] <aRAchNiON> HiddenWolf, I'm on breezy now, still no sound
[01:43] <Bobulor> whenever I try to watch a video on mozilla, mplayer downloads the file (maybe) and sits around not doing anything afterwards. What do I do?
[01:43] <aRAchNiON> where do I submit my bug?
[01:44] <elvirolo> aRAchNiON: bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ok ;)
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ah
[01:44] <ompaul> aRAchNiON, or you can try malone
[01:44] <HappyFool> youngcoder: can you put your /etc/samba/smb.conf up on the pastebin/
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ty HiddenWolf
[01:44] <ompaul> malone.launchpad.com
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ompaul, ?
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> ompaul, main is still bugzilla
[01:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ya one sec
[01:44] <ompaul> HiddenWolf, ack
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, bugzilla, not malone
[01:44] <elvirolo> whoops, i HiddenWolf is right, bugs is for kde
[01:45] <dtamas> you can write on ntfs with captive-ntfs
[01:45] <ompaul> dtamas, why would you put a windows device driver near a linux kernel, why not get an ext reader for windows
[01:46] <ompaul> dtamas,  ext reader / writer for windows
[01:46] <elvirolo> ompaul: cause they're not very reliable?
[01:46] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1851
[01:46] <Bobulor> ubuntu noob = needs help
[01:46] <dtamas> the killall nautilus works! thanks!
[01:47] <ompaul> elvirolo, you realise that that was the most pointless irc session :-)
[01:47] <elvirolo> ompaul: more or less, yes :)
[01:47] <Bobulor> breezy
[01:47] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, package linux please include lspci -v |grep -i audio and ls /proc/asound and lspci
[01:48] <A-Z-I-Z> Is there a GUI application for controlling wireless connections ?
[01:48] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1852
[01:48] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: do you use gnome ?
[01:48] <aRAchNiON> HiddenWolf, sure
[01:48] <Bobulor> dammit
[01:48] <A-Z-I-Z> right now.. KDE
[01:48] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, thanks. :)
[01:49] <ompaul> dtamas, I would not allow a windows device driver near a linux kernel - perhaps have a look at an ext reader / writer for windows only check the reliabity before you commit to some solution
[01:49] <Bobulor> ...
[01:49] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, also mention that you use breezy, and that you've tried opening mixers etc. That's 2 default questions they ask. :)
[01:49] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: well, kwifimanager i suppose then
[01:49] <A-Z-I-Z> elvirolo: what's the name of the application for wireless in gnome ?
[01:49] <elvirolo> for gnome, you can use this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49148
[01:50] <HappyFool> youngcoder: hmm. 'anonymous' browsing with smbclient works here
[01:50] <elvirolo> which is good
[01:50] <ubuntuguy> Does Ubuntu hire developers? How can someone get a job working for Ubuntu?
[01:50] <selinium> Anybody about how knows ablout compiling from source?
[01:50] <elvirolo> ubuntuguy: canonical does
[01:50] <elvirolo> selinium: yes
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> ok HiddenWolf
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuguy, canonical hires developers, yes
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> I'll do it in a sec, just eating now
[01:50] <HappyFool> youngcoder: try maybe simplifying your smb.conf, at least for testing
[01:50] <ubuntuguy> elvirolo: URL?
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, take your time. I'm off now tho.
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> o/
[01:51] <youngcoder> HappyFool, how simple can it get?
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: i can paste mine, if you like
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: well, remove the 'domain master' stuff
[01:51] <selinium> elvirolo: do yuo mind having a look at the output from a make. I am not sure if it failed or not. Very new to compiling! Second one!
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: and the 'server signing'
[01:51] <elvirolo> ubuntuguy: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu obviously
[01:51] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, be prepared to use a lot of python :)
[01:51] <A-Z-I-Z> elvirolo: thanks
[01:51] <elvirolo> selinium: sure, but let's do it by mp
[01:51] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: np
[01:51] <elvirolo> pm*
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> http://freshmeat.net/projects/smtm/
[01:52] <youngcoder> HappyFool, please do i need an example
[01:52] <siimo> can someone please tell me how to extract an RPM ?
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> Now I REALLY LOVE Debian/Ubuntu
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> how cool is that?
[01:52] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, standby. Mine is pretty close to the standard ubuntu setup
[01:52] <ubuntuguy> elvirolo: How is canonical related to ubuntu?
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> siimo, turn that rpm into a .deb with alein
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> alien
[01:53] <elvirolo>       rpm2cpio {FullNameOfRPM} | cpio -iumd     {FullNameOfFileToExtract}
[01:53] <ptlo> ubuntuguy, canonical is the company that produces ubuntu
[01:53] <elvirolo> well, used to
[01:53] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, why not read about it on that web page :)
[01:53] <elvirolo> canonical was founded by mark shuttleworth, and created the ubuntu project
[01:54] <HappyFool> youngcoder: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1853
[01:54] <ubuntuguy> OK, who produces it now? and why does canonical no longer "produce" ubuntu?
[01:54] <elvirolo> since them, the guy created the ubuntu foundation though, so that it is independent financially from canonical
[01:54] <HappyFool> youngcoder: the one hacky thing i've added is the 'interfaces=' and 'bind interfaces only' lines
[01:54] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuguy, the ubuntu foundation will produce Breezy with the community from the next release on.
[01:54] <siimo> elvirolo, rpm2cpio is not in apt?
[01:55] <ubuntuguy> does the ubuntu foundation hire?
[01:55] <elvirolo> siimo: oh ..., that's what i used when i had RH
[01:55] <barkman> Hi! I'm having poblems with my repositories for 5.04. Can anyone give me a list of working repos? Thanks!
[01:55] <ompaul> !repos
[01:55] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:55] <barkman> Thanks, ompaul
[01:56] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, why not check out the web pages and see if you have anything to offer
[01:56] <elvirolo> siimo: let me check
[01:56] <youngcoder> HappyFool, that is simpler than mine?
[01:56] <HappyFool> youngcoder: well, it is closer to bog-standard ubuntu setup
[01:56] <youngcoder> ok
[01:56] <youngcoder> brb
[01:56] <HappyFool> youngcoder: or, to put it another way, It Works Here(tm)
[01:57] <siimo> Dr_Fate, can i extract it after converting to deb
[01:57] <ubuntuguy> thank  you
[01:57] <Dr_Fate> siimo, they don't "extract" they install
[01:58] <dazvid> i am trying to install grub to my boot dir, (on an xfs partition) and it gives me a warning, and then the install hangs.. any ideas?
[01:58] <siimo> i'd like to extract since its not designed for ubuntu
[01:58] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, to see what the community of developers are up to check out #ubuntu-devel
[01:59] <slept> dazvid, you dont install to a dir you install to a device like grub-install  /dev/hda
[02:00] <lJlolel> Dr_Fate, the charts aren't working for me in smtm
[02:00] <dazvid> Hmm, I read on the ubuntu guide to install it to the boot dir :S
[02:00] <Smegzor> i'm running the live cd to recover my grub boot loader after installing a 2nd OS.  following the howto.. how do I tell if I have a /boot/ listing in my fstab?
[02:00] <HappyFool> Smegzor: open the /etc/fstab file (on your drive, so maybe /mnt/hda3/etc/fstab or something) and look for a /boot entry
[02:01] <dazvid> Yup
[02:01] <Smegzor> thanks
[02:02] <slept> dazvid, thats the place where you have configuration (and splashimigas if you like to). install grub via apt, and then do grub-install
[02:02] <dazvid> I can't open my terminal now because that install hung.. so
[02:02] <dazvid> brb
[02:04] <scumbo> siimo, see if there's a package "rpm".  It exists in Debian and may be available for ubuntu.  It has rpm2cpio.
[02:05] <siimo> ok thx
[02:06] <spiritz> I can't remember the name of an equivalent to rpmfind for deb packages. Any clue anyone?
[02:06] <bdoetsch> hi there
[02:06] <HappyFool> spiritz: apt-cache, maybe?
[02:06] <HappyFool> spiritz: otherwise take a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <spiritz> I was looking for a website indeed
[02:06] <scumbo> spiritz, rpmseek.com
[02:07] <A-Z-I-Z> is there an application that shows the battery level of my laptop ??
[02:07] <spiritz> scumbo: perfect; thanks
[02:07] <bdoetsch> anyone knows how i can get alexandria to start up in breezy?
[02:07] <spiritz> A-Z-I-Z: acpii does that
[02:07] <Dr_Fate> http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2005/05/04/#smtm_charts_fix
[02:08] <spiritz> A-Z-I-Z: acpi not acpiii sorry
[02:08] <HappyFool> A-Z-I-Z: right-click on the panel, choose 'Add to panel' and scroll down to the 'Battery charge monitor' (I don't have a laptop, so i haven't used it myself)
[02:08] <A-Z-I-Z> HappyFool: is that for Gnome ?
[02:08] <HappyFool> A-Z-I-Z: indeed
[02:08] <Behi> anybody from australia? or finland?
[02:09] <slept> Behi, what do australia an finland have in common ?
[02:10] <Juhaz> they're on same planet?
[02:10] <Behi> slept: my interest in them :D ;)
[02:10] <ompaul> monthy python did stuff about both of them
[02:11] <Behi> Juhaz: you're right man ;)
[02:11] <Behi> LOL!
[02:11] <ompaul> the song finland and the sketch bruce
[02:11] <aRAchNiON> I'm about to post a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <Behi> anybody from adelaide or helsinki?
[02:12] <aRAchNiON> is there anything I should enter in the URL or Cc fields?
[02:12] <aRAchNiON> it's about a sound problem
[02:12] <youngcoder> hey HappyFool , i think the problem is that my windows box had the domain controller enabled
[02:13] <youngcoder> HappyFool, i fixed it and rebooted and i will post my results
[02:13] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ah. interesting
[02:13] <youngcoder> that will definitely cause a problem
[02:13] <aRAchNiON> ..?
[02:14] <aRAchNiON> ok, I'm commiting
[02:15] <aRAchNiON> could someone check if there is anything I forgot to mention here?
[02:15] <aRAchNiON> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14643
[02:19] <dazvid> ok, I retried installing it just to a partition.. and the same error appears, and locks up my terminal.
[02:19] <dazvid> Really frustrating actually
[02:20] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854   ....  if my windows box doesnt show a workgroup name then what setting is wrong on the windows box?
[02:20] <youngcoder> HappyFool, i ensured that it was set to MSHOME
[02:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder: sorry, i'm not sure
[02:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder: is this a domain or a workgroup?
[02:21] <Smegzor> hmm..  I have finished recovering my mbr after installing windows to a 2nd partition, but after rebooting, all I get is a command prompt grub>  it was working before I installed windows and I followed the howto.  how can I fix this?
[02:22] <slept> youngcoder, do  smbtree
[02:22] <scumbo> dazvid, you looking for anyone in particular?
[02:22] <youngcoder> slept ok now what?
[02:22] <grxmrx> hello
[02:22] <youngcoder> HappyFool, workgroup
[02:22] <dazvid> not really, just anyone who thinks they know whats going on really ;/
[02:22] <hamourabi> hi roo
[02:23] <hamourabi> hi room
[02:23] <youngcoder> grxmrx, hello
[02:23] <aRAchNiON> I'm going
[02:23] <youngcoder> bye aRAchNiON
[02:23] <dazvid> scumbo, slept told me I had to install to an actual partition.. which I just tried, and it still had the same error with XFS partition stuff
[02:23] <aRAchNiON> bye o/
[02:23] <dazvid> and then just hangs
[02:23] <hamourabi> i've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens
[02:23] <hamourabi> what to do?
[02:24] <scumbo> dazvid, I don't think I saw your original error message.
[02:24] <dazvid> "Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[02:24] <dazvid> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[02:24] <dazvid> can be ignored.
[02:24] <dazvid> "
[02:24] <aRAchNiON> ... messy shutdown, again :S
[02:25] <aRAchNiON> :(
[02:25] <youngcoder> slept, you still with me?
[02:25] <slept> youngcoder, what is excactly your problem with samba ? you cant access the shares from windows ?
[02:25] <dazvid> thats after the command "grub-install /dev/hda
[02:26] <Smegzor> anyone know a nice way to recover my boot loader?  Is it possible to install a new one from scratch without losing anything?
[02:26] <bassembg> hi room
[02:26] <youngcoder> slept, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854 ... yes i cant access them and i got this
[02:26] <scumbo> dazvid, /dev/hda being your entire disk.  That's what you intend?
[02:26] <bassembg> i've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens
[02:26] <bassembg> what to do?
[02:26] <A-Z-I-Z> when i type "acpi" in command line shell, i get "No support for device type: battery" ... how do i get support for battery ?
[02:26] <dazvid> hda has my windows XP stuff on it
[02:27] <dazvid> hda1 to be more precise
[02:28] <slept> youngcoder, I got that right, you wnat to mount the windows-shares from linux ?
[02:28] <grxmrx> I'm new here, I have just read the manual about ubuntu, just to make sure I have one stupid question, is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same disk where I have partitions with other operating system (morphos)? I'm don't want to lost access (or lose data) to morphos partitions. I have installed debian ppc,
[02:28] <grxmrx>  is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same partition where I have debian ppc already?
[02:28] <scumbo> dazvid, OK, so it's installing a new MBR on the disk, with windows on hda1 and the whatever else wherever else.
[02:28] <dazvid> Yup (thats what I want)
[02:28] <youngcoder> slept, yes and it seems that windows doesnt show workgroup as MSHOME
[02:28] <lJlolel> !windowsdrives
[02:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[02:29] <scumbo> dazvid, weird error message though.  XFS is the SGI filesystem IIRC, so why is grub hitting a problem with it?
[02:30] <slept> youngcoder, if you do smbtree you get some \\servername\share just use that info and do mount -t smbfs //servername/share /mountpoint
[02:30] <dazvid> Im using XFS for my linux partitions perhaps?
[02:30] <dazvid> err I mean I am using them.. but perhaps that is the source of error
[02:30] <youngcoder> slept i didnt get any info
[02:30] <scumbo> dazvid, clutching at straws, but what does "fdisk -l /dev/hda" show you as far as partition types go?
[02:30] <slept> youngcoder, from smbtree?
[02:30] <scumbo> dazvid, never mind.  OK, so you're using XFS.
[02:30] <grxmrx> hmm, I mean not 'on' but 'over" debian partition ;)
[02:31] <youngcoder> slept, correct
[02:31] <youngcoder> ill paste it
[02:31] <slept> youngcoder, then there is no server running , try to restart the server
[02:31] <dazvid> scumbo, yup. Is there anyway to terminate what the console is doing?
[02:32] <youngcoder> slept, how is that done ?
[02:32] <slept> youngcoder, I don't know I never used windows with networking , there might be a button or sth like that
[02:33] <scumbo> dazvid, probably a few.  ^C will send a sigint.  ^Z might put it in the background for you.  Or you can use kill from another shell.
[02:33] <dazvid> Yeh ^C didnt work.. how do I kill from another shell?
[02:34] <dazvid> scratch that... I cant open another shell.
[02:34] <slept> youngcoder, smbtree searches all workgroups available on the net , therefor I'm quite sure you don't have a server running
[02:34] <dazvid> ^Z worked *phew*
[02:34] <youngcoder> slept, i just wish i knew how to fix it
[02:35] <scumbo> dazvid, you might have been able to try a different console <ctrl><alt><right>.  Anyway, ^Z has left the process in a stopped state, so try "ps -lf" in that console and see if there's anything interesting about the hung process.
[02:36] <dazvid> Dont really understand all this..:
[02:36] <hawking> who has removed w32codecs from the repositories and why??
[02:36] <dazvid> "F S UID        PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDR SZ WCHAN  STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[02:36] <dazvid> 0 S dazvid    8127  8125  0  75   0 -  1037 wait   22:10 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[02:36] <dazvid> 0 R dazvid    8416  8127  0  77   0 -   959 -      22:36 pts/0    00:00:00 ps -l"
[02:38] <scumbo> dazvid, nothing useful there.  Wonder where the process has gone.  You could try "ps -efl | fgrep grub"  we're looking for your grub install line.
[02:38] <slept> youngcoder, I just had to set up the server side  and only used it with linux clients :( , but if you don't want to have password things you can have a look at nfs, its very easy to use
[02:38] <dazvid> ok
[02:38] <dazvid> I might send it in a private msg..
[02:39] <youngcoder> slept where should i look?
[02:39] <youngcoder> !nfs
[02:39] <dazvid> 1 D root      8399  8275  0  76   0 -   957 xfs_tr 22:18 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/sh /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[02:39] <dazvid> 0 R dazvid    8420  8127  0  77   0 -   759 -      22:38 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -F grub
[02:39] <dazvid> m
[02:39] <dazvid> not kool
[02:40] <codenut> stats /p
[02:40] <Smegzor> I'm confused.  I did everything correctly according to the howto to recover my grub boot loader.  I can even see the original loader files part way through the howto. Yet after completing this and rebooting, no boot loader :(  any ideas how to get it back?  Its not lost yet.
[02:41] <codenut> How exactly do I become root in a terminal session?
[02:41] <Smegzor> sudo -i
[02:41] <codenut> Smegzor: I will look at that
[02:41] <surfdue> hey can someone tell me how I can fix my sound driver, so that X-Lite will reconize them
[02:41] <scumbo> davidz, nothing spectacular there; don't know what xfs_tr means.  Sounds suspicious.  Might be something to Google for.
[02:42] <dazvid> codenut, you can just open a root terminal through the "Applications > system tools"
[02:42] <slept> youngcoder, the linuxpart is easy just install nfs-user-server edit /etc/exports, add aline with /sharedir and permissions
[02:42] <dazvid> Right scumbo
[02:42] <dazvid> I just need to install grub so I can access windows -_-
[02:42] <dazvid> atm i cant dual boot
[02:43] <dazvid> There is a previous installation of GRUB on my system though.. that might be messing it up..
[02:43] <Smegzor> i'm part way through following the howto a 2nd time.  last time I let it recover grub automatically.
[02:44] <Smegzor> why isn't midnight commander included in the live cd?
[02:44] <scumbo> davidz, unfortunately I've only used grub a few times myself.  I've used lilo for years and haven't seen much need to change.  Between that and the fact I use ext3 not xfs, I'm not sure I can help all that much.
[02:45] <dazvid> Does lilo work with xp?
[02:45] <dazvid> atm I have that installed, and it doesnt offer the option of booting my other HDD
[02:45] <Xappe> how do I prevent update-manager to load when starting up gnome?
[02:45] <scumbo> dazvid, sure.
[02:46] <dazvid> How do I set it up to offer the dual boot?
[02:46] <ompaul> dazvid, unfortunately yes, the unfortunate part is XP now if you had said does it work with brand X linux or BSD I would be happy :)
[02:47] <dazvid> ompaul, I dont understand what you mean with that sentence.. :S
[02:47] <scumbo> dazvid, you just need to add an appropriate entry.  If you have an /etc/lilo.conf which single boots linux, add two lines for windows:
[02:48] <scumbo> other=/dev/hda1
[02:48] <scumbo>   label="WinNT(hda1)"
[02:48] <dazvid> righto, will try that
[02:48] <scumbo> dazvid, Oh, and *very* important.  Run "/sbin/lilo" after that.
[02:48] <dazvid> when my console unfreezes...
[02:48] <dazvid> ok
[02:48] <dazvid> Seriously I think i broke my console =[
[02:48] <tommi^> Hi. My friend has made a user account to his win xp computer. Now I'm trying to access my home directory with samba. With nautilus, I'm trying to access smb://myusername@friendsIP/ -address but without results. What should I define after last slash? What else could be the problem?
[02:49] <ompaul> dazvid, maybe  you have seen this version of it: XP is the problem, now what was the question :-)
[02:49] <ompaul> dazvid, why not use Grub?
[02:49] <surfdue> how do we switch from hoary to beta breezy
[02:50] <dazvid> because when installing grub, it outputs an error, and then locks up the terminal
[02:50] <ompaul> !upgrade
[02:50] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:50] <scumbo> this is not to say that lilo isn't going to do the same thing.
[02:51] <ompaul> surfdue, if you can't modify that script then you should not consider to move to breezy
[02:52] <surfdue> oh u mean tats not right?
[02:52] <surfdue> ...
[02:52] <surfdue> thanks.
[02:52] <ompaul> surfdue, well that won't do any damage if you are using hoary
[02:53] <surfdue> i know to change the hoary to testing in sources.list
[02:53] <surfdue> right?
[02:53] <surfdue> stable to testing
[02:53] <surfdue> i mean
[02:53] <surfdue> :)
[02:53] <ompaul> surfdue, that gets you from warty to hoary - you want to change hoary to breezy testing is debian :)
[02:53] <ompaul> doh
[02:54] <ompaul> there is nothing there
[02:54] <ompaul> I am going to play computer games for an hour
[02:54] <surfdue> on 1 sec
[02:54] <surfdue> sudo sed -e 'breezy' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <surfdue> is this right?
[02:56] <HappyFool> surfdue: how about using 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and change hoary to breezy that way?
[02:56] <surfdue> k
[02:56] <HappyFool> i think the re is probably s/hoary/breezy/, but i'm not a sed user
[02:56] <surfdue> ok im use to debian with testing and stable
[02:56] <surfdue> not the actuall names
[02:57] <ompaul> surfdue, ahh okay
[02:57] <surfdue> sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:57] <surfdue> this is right ?
[02:57] <scumbo> surfdue, why use three sudos when one would do?
[02:58] <surfdue> ubotu gave me this command
[02:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, surfdue
[02:58] <surfdue> thats why
[02:58] <ompaul> surfdue, that reads a lot better - but testing in debian is not = breezy it is sid and that breaks a lot, just so you know what you are getting into
[02:58] <surfdue> :)
[02:58] <ompaul> !ubotu
[02:58] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:58] <surfdue> nvm then
[02:59] <surfdue> i just love ubuntu
[02:59] <surfdue> but the sound never works
[02:59] <surfdue> on some of my apps.
[02:59] <HappyFool> surfdue: what topic was that under?
[02:59] <surfdue> and its annoying
[02:59] <surfdue> X-Lite sip phone dosnt work ever on ubuntu
[02:59] <surfdue> i mean the sound dosnt
[03:00] <lsuactiafner> is breezy out?
[03:00] <ompaul> !breezy
[03:00] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[03:00] <Smegzor> ok heres the problem.  my grub has a file menu.lst which contains what I expect it to, but when I goot I only get GRUB>  What do I need to do now to get that menu.lst displayed at boot time?
[03:00] <lsuactiafner> oh
[03:00] <Smegzor> er.. goot is boot :)
[03:00] <HappyFool> Smegzor: did you run grub-install?
[03:01] <Smegzor> yes
[03:01] <HappyFool> hmm
[03:01] <Smegzor> i'll do it again anyway..
[03:01] <HappyFool> what command did you use?
[03:01] <HappyFool> i mean, what command-line parameters?
[03:01] <Smegzor> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[03:02] <HappyFool> i think you might need the --root option too
[03:02] <HappyFool> but i have not yet successfully helped anyone with this
[03:02] <surfdue> guys all i need is my X-LIte to work if it does ubuntu is perfect
[03:02] <Smegzor> I have 2 partitions on my hdd.. hda1 appears to be ubuntu (it was installed first), hda2 appears to be my new windows install.
[03:02] <surfdue> when it tryies to detect my sound device i can only choose one defualt and it wont accept that
[03:02] <surfdue> how can i fix this error
[03:02] <Smegzor> hmm..  ok
[03:03] <Smegzor> brb
[03:07] <HappyFool> Smegzor: my guess would be to try 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda', but i'm not sure if that only applies when you have a separate boot partition
[03:08] <Smegzor> hmm..  --root doesn't appear to be a valid command
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> help
[03:08] <Smegzor> its not listed in the help
[03:08] <HappyFool> --root-directory
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> is there a way of stopping the annoying sound card warnings
[03:09] <binbrain> *whoa* big problems upgrading-dist to breezy
[03:09] <binbrain> my everything is broke
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> well duh
[03:09] <HappyFool> Smegzor: hmm, no, scrap that. I think plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' should work,
[03:09] <binbrain> can anybody lend a hand for assistence
[03:10] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you don't have /boot on a separate partition
[03:10] <HappyFool> right?
[03:10] <Smegzor> hmm..  i don't know
[03:10] <binbrain> anybody have broken dependency problems in breezy right now?
[03:10] <Smegzor> there is a boot folder in hda1
[03:10] <HappyFool> Smegzor: ok, and what's in it?
[03:11] <HappyFool> Smegzor: or rather, is it empty or not?
[03:11] <Smegzor> i got an error just before..  /boot/boot/grub is not an XFS file system...
[03:11] <HappyFool> /boot/boot/grub ?
[03:11] <HappyFool> hmm
[03:11] <HappyFool> are you using XFS at all?
[03:12] <Smegzor> in /boot is my original menu.lst with entries I recognise and a bunch of other files..
[03:12] <HappyFool> menu.lst is in /boot/grub on my system
[03:12] <samu2> something bad happened when i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop
[03:12] <Smegzor> no idea.  what is it?
[03:12] <samu2> it cant install GRUB to the MBR
[03:12] <HappyFool> Smegzor: XFS is a different filesystem -- if you don't know, you probably aren't using it ;)
[03:13] <HappyFool> Smegzor: are you irc'ing from that machine at the moment?
[03:14] <Smegzor> at the end of the grub-install process it lists (hd0) /dev/hda and (hd1) /dev/hdb.  I have a single hd divided into two partitions.
[03:14] <Smegzor> hardly
[03:14] <Smegzor> I have many pc's
[03:14] <Smegzor> I can irc from it though.
[03:15] <stoeptegel> how do i install the k7 kernel? i can't find it in kynaptic
[03:15] <phantombrainm> stoeptegel, search for linux-kernel
[03:15] <Smegzor> i'm going to reboot and see if anything has changed.  then I'll hit google for a bit.  I will stay here also.
[03:16] <ompaul> linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7
[03:16] <phantombrainm> sorry, linux-image not kernel
[03:17] <ompaul> stoeptegel, apt-cache search linux | grep k7 don't forget to install modules as awll
[03:17] <ompaul> stoeptegel, s/awll/well
[03:17] <phantombrainm> :)
[03:17] <phantombrainm> as well
[03:17] <phantombrainm> ;)
[03:17] <Smegzor> :O  it worked that time.  I did nothing differently from the first time
[03:18] <Smegzor> now to see if it will boot into windows
[03:18] <ompaul> phantombrainm, alzo ?
[03:18] <phantombrainm> ompaul, alzo? What does that mean?
[03:18] <ompaul> also, I am having fun, because I mussen :)
[03:18] <stoeptegel> thnx guys :)  i have the choise between linux-image-k7 and linux-k7. Which is the right one.
[03:19] <stoeptegel> ompaul: modules? ehm... which one
[03:19] <Seveas> ompaul, stoeptegel, just installing linux-k7 is the easiest route :)
[03:19] <Seveas> linux-k7 is a metapackage that depends on the most recent k7 kernel + modules
[03:19] <Seveas> so you automagically get upgrades too
[03:20] <ompaul> Seveas, so I go to court this week :) for bad info
[03:21] <stoeptegel> ROFLOL
[03:21] <HappyFool> Smegzor: are you still here? plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' worked?
[03:21] <Seveas> ompaul, rofl ;)
[03:22] <ompaul> Seveas, nice to see automagically has gotten around a bit
[03:22] <Smegzor> hmm..  ok it loads into linux again YAY!  but windows isn't correct in the grub loader.  I can just edit it can't I?
[03:22] <Smegzor> I know where I parked Windows :)
[03:22] <Smegzor> HappyFool yes to both
[03:22] <mjr> yeah, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:23] <ompaul> Seveas, are we going to see another colony?
[03:23] <Seveas> no
[03:23] <Seveas> next is the previw release
[03:23] <ompaul> arrays?
[03:23] <HappyFool> Smegzor: if you know the partition which windows is on, you can probably hack something from the grub command-line
[03:23] <Dr_Fate> where can I find this? Tk::PNG
[03:24] <mjr> Dr_Fate, I don't know, but I'm guessing libtk-img
[03:24] <Smegzor> i'm booting into linux so I can 'see' everything and I'll hack the menu.lst for starters.
[03:24] <HappyFool> Dr_Fate: maybe perl-tk ?
[03:25] <Dr_Fate> thx guys
[03:26] <Dr_Fate>  perl-tk already installed
[03:26] <Dr_Fate> trying to install the latest smtm
[03:26] <chrismy> hey all
[03:27] <Stormx2> Heya
[03:27] <spola> when can we expect an GNU/Hurd ubuntu?
[03:27] <chrismy> :D
[03:27] <Dr_Fate> Tk::PNG 2.005 is what I need
[03:27] <Stormx2> Does anyone have any experience in using multisync?
[03:27] <mjr> spola, probably not very soon... Hurd is not for human beings yet ;I
[03:28] <mjr> though I am kinda impatient myself
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> the repositories don't have the newer files I need
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> I tried the .deb package
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> no go
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> so I'm trying source
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> and this is where it chokes
[03:28] <BollocksMacenzie> Has anyone had toruble with PCMCIA USB 2.0 cards? Would like to know before I buy one.
[03:28] <Smegzor> ok please confirm.  in boot.lst (hd0,0) is my linux install.  currently the windows boot is (hd1,0) I know I installed windows on a 2nd partition of the same drive as (hd0,0) so should (hd1,0) actually read (hd0,1) ???
[03:28] <ompaul> doh wrong place
[03:29] <Seveas> ompaul, *g*
[03:29] <HappyFool> Smegzor: yes
[03:29] <mjr> Smegzor, yep
[03:29] <Smegzor> thanks
[03:29] <spola> i hard they were making steay progress with GNU/Hurd debian
[03:29] <Smegzor> that will be why its not working atm
[03:29] <Smegzor> brb
[03:29] <mjr> spola, it is progressing nicely. Though there's the small matter that the Hurd developers are in the process of porting Hurd onto another microkernel and stuff...
[03:29] <Stormx2> Hey, anyone used Multisync?
[03:30] <spola> yeah i heard they were going to replace the mach for the l4 do you know what the diffrences are?
[03:30] <Dr_Fate> Turns out that it pretty easy to fix things -- loading the Tk::PNG module and then declaring the png format is all it takes
[03:30] <pirast> ubotu?
[03:30] <pirast> where is ubotu?
[03:30] <ompaul> !ubotu
[03:30] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <robotgeek> !botsnack
[03:30] <ubotu> thanks robotgeek :)
[03:31] <pirast> ahhh
[03:31] <pirast> i though he is not here :-)
[03:31] <mjr> spola, I'm not familiar with many of the exact details on the differences, though I heard that eg. drivers can be better moved into user processes with L4
[03:31] <Smegzor> bother!  it still won't boot into windows.  its partition is NTFS.  does that matter?
[03:32] <HappyFool> Smegzor: it shouldn't
[03:32] <pirast> !sound
[03:32] <ubotu> hmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:32] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you can put your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for us to look at it you want
[03:32] <Smegzor> ok
[03:33] <Smegzor> i'll be a min. I have to reboot ^^
[03:33] <pirast> since I upgraded my Breezy sound doesn't work -.-
[03:33] <pirast> martin@mubuntu:~$ aplay -l
[03:33] <pirast> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[03:33] <pirast> oh sry
[03:33] <pirast> i forgot to use paste.ubuntu...
[03:34] <Une-ga-dihi> power just goes out
[03:34] <Une-ga-dihi> nice
[03:35] <BollocksMacenzie> USB 2.0 PCMCIA cards, work/don't work?
[03:35] <stoeptegel> installed k7, running smooth. I would be lost without you guys _o_
[03:35] <pirast> !Audigy
[03:35] <ubotu> I guess audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[03:35] <ompaul> stoeptegel, no you would be running windows, that is a lot worse than being lost :-)
[03:39] <Smegzor> ok  my menu.lst (minus the comments) is pasted http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1857
[03:39] <ompaul> robotgeek, well a friend of mine has it, and I could not get it to work - now I can :)
[03:39] <robotgeek> ompaul: :)
[03:40] <robotgeek> i need some coffee!
[03:40] <ompaul> robotgeek, then when it works we will have another 100% of the time ubuntu user
[03:40] <ompaul> robotgeek, make me one too please :)
[03:40] <robotgeek> ompaul: i converted my roomate to ubuntu
[03:40] <Smegzor> i should be able to mount and look at my windows partition yes?  I might find its not where I think it is!
[03:41] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to list all the partitions ubuntu can find
[03:41] <tommi^> robotgeek, oh nou! What will his parents say when he's an ubuntu?
[03:41] <robotgeek> ompaul: he was suprised that everything just worked, wireless with ndiswrapper, and even his function keys!
[03:41] <robotgeek> tommi^: better than a window :)
[03:41] <Smegzor> AHA!  it is on hda3
[03:41] <HappyFool> Smegzor: the ubuntu installer thought that windows was on your second hard-drive, according to the paste
[03:42] <tommi^> robotgeek, they could see right through him
[03:42] <Smegzor> ok  well I can see it on hda3 so how would that boot line look?
[03:42] <HappyFool> Smegzor: that will be (hd0,2)
[03:42] <robotgeek> then i made him jealous by showing him network-manager :)
[03:42] <Smegzor> thanks
[03:42] <Stormx2> !multisync
[03:42] <ubotu> Stormx2: Wish i knew
[03:42] <Stormx2> !synce
[03:42] <ubotu> Stormx2: I give up, what is it?
[03:42] <Stormx2> Uhg.
[03:43] <ompaul> my wife uses it, my father in law uses it, my non game playing friends use it, my lug uses it after me ranting and raving about it and I have have had over 300 cds given away - me fanatical no, okay then just a little :)
[03:43] <robotgeek> Stormx2: i wanted to try out multi-sync, but have been too lazy!
[03:43] <robotgeek> ompaul: great! keep the good work going!
[03:43] <ompaul> ohh I also invented the internet my name is al gore :)
[03:44] <Stormx2> robotgeek: I can't get it to work.
[03:44] <robotgeek> ompaul: bush went one step further, he invented the internets!
[03:44] <ompaul> robotgeek, I do, am going to give out shipit next time (assuming they still exist)
[03:44] <ompaul> robotgeek, well the republicans have the money for that sort of thing
[03:44] <robotgeek> Stormx2: i havent tried messing with it
[03:45] <Smegzor> thanks guys :D  I can now boot into my awesome Ubuntu or my sad Windows :)
[03:45] <robotgeek> ompaul: it's just weird, the way things work here. i think enuf off-topic though!
[03:45] <ompaul> aye
[03:46] <robotgeek> ompaul: what did u mean, u are going to give out shipits?
[03:46] <ompaul> robotgeek, the ones we gave out we burnt ourselves
[03:47] <robotgeek> ompaul: okay, the shipits are nice though. live cd + install!
[03:47] <ompaul> robotgeek, I was given one, hehe
[03:47] <robotgeek> i just can't wait, i just download it. univ net!
[03:48] <Une-ga-dihi> loading the Tk::PNG module
[03:48] <Une-ga-dihi> how would I call this module ot edit it?] 
[03:49] <CarlFK> super dumb Q: do I need cdrecord, or can I use the DVD tools to  burn a CD?
[03:49] <dabaR> !ask
[03:54] <bobbyd> hi
[03:54] <bobbyd> gaim keeps disconnecting my MSN account, is that a known issue?
[03:55] <Seveas> msn is flaky at times
[03:57] <stoeptegel> bobbyd: what i always do is switching to psi with msn transport for the time being when gaim/kopete doesn't work
[04:03] <Waerner>  Hello, I have a bit of a n00b question. Is there any way to get the external IP of the localhost? I mean, the computer I am using atm
[04:03] <lvraab> ping??
[04:03] <kyncani> Waerner: ifconfig
[04:04] <Waerner> kyncani: Thanks alot =)
[04:04] <kyncani> np :)
[04:05] <lvraab> has anyone had any problems with starting X at startup??
[04:05] <dabaR> no, noone ever.
[04:05] <lvraab> hmm
[04:05] <Waerner> damn mysql...
[04:05] <lvraab> I installed 5.04 and when I rebooted I got an error message about how the X server couldn't be started
[04:06] <fivetwentysix> How long did php take for you guys to learn
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, video card?
[04:06] <fivetwentysix> i just got a book and started learning it, books pretty deep
[04:06] <lvraab> ompaul: yep
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, what type?
[04:06] <dabaR> which one, dude.
[04:06] <lvraab> nVidia FX5200
[04:06] <ompaul> !nvidia
[04:06] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, have a look at that
[04:07] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I'm using Colony3, I used update manager an hour ago and now sshd won't let me log in. Any ideas?
[04:08] <lvraab> ubotu, ompaul: thanks
[04:08] <ubotu> lvraab: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:08] <ompaul> !ubotu
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[04:09] <Waerner> ifconfig gives me the status of three devices,   eth0, lo and sit0, I guess I should look under eth0? But it only gives me a IPv6 adress or something
[04:10] <dabaR> Waerner: lo is nothing important to your issue. eth0 is the ethernet card, tell us what the sit is.
[04:12] <dabaR> or, tell us whether it has an ipv4 address, at least.
[04:12] <Waerner> the only IP "looking" adress I can see under sit0 is 83.***.**.3/96
[04:12] <Waerner> And I can't ping it either
[04:13] <lvraab> ompaul: if i can't start X, how am I supposed to start Synaptic??
[04:13] <Waerner> apt-get...?
[04:13] <lvraab> ompaul: I can only get a command-line
[04:13] <dabaR> thats your IP, Waerner .
[04:13] <dabaR> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9611.1/0330.html
[04:13] <Waerner> dabaR: Yes, But I don't get any replies on my pings
[04:14] <dabaR> there is obviously some kind of firewalling involved, see th /96...thats likely a port number.
[04:14] <Waerner> okay?
[04:15] <Waerner> I don't understand that much of the link you posted...?
[04:15] <dabaR> read that URL?
[04:15] <Waerner> yep
[04:16] <Waerner> But I didn't really understand what it was saying
[04:16] <ompaul> lcrarb that link I pointed you to, if you can't do synaptic then do apt-get install
[04:16] <lvraab> ompaul: alright
[04:17] <dabaR> ya, I understood that from your previous post. Well, basically, your eth0 is configured for ipv6, and then the sit0 is used to encapsulate ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams. meaning that there is some kind of translation there. Do you use a router at all? and if not, tell us about the set up of your home network.
[04:18] <Waerner> The set up:    ISP --> Modem --> Switch --> This one (Win XP) and the Ubuntu machine
[04:18] <dabaR> 2 IPs from the ISP, I suppose.
[04:18] <Waerner> yup
[04:18] <dabaR> can ubuntu get online?
[04:19] <CarlFK> dabaR - huh?
[04:19] <VoX> i'm trying to run an opengl game, but it's complaining it cant find any ogl drivers. any particular package i have to install?
[04:19] <CarlFK> dabaR - ah.  hm
[04:20] <dabaR> CarlFK: misunderstood something? need clarification?
[04:20] <Waerner> Yep, I rebooted it, and now it can, it even replies on my pings after the reboot
[04:20] <dabaR> oki, well, solved? know the IP?
[04:20] <Waerner> yeah
[04:20] <kyncani> VoX: if the game has been packaged for ubuntu, you should use the package
[04:21] <VoX> kyncani: it hasnt
[04:21] <CarlFK> dabaR - "can ubuntu get online?" - but then i figured out what you were doing
[04:21] <Waerner> But why did it all of a sudden switch to ipv6?
[04:21] <dabaR> Waerner: no idea. another way to get your external IP is whatsmyip.com or so.
[04:21] <pirast> !wlan
[04:21] <ubotu> pirast: Are you on ritalin?
[04:22] <Waerner> dabaR: Yeah, but I don't have any browsers of X-server installed :)
[04:22] <VoX> and also, why is there no vlc package? even debian has vlc
[04:23] <kyncani> VoX: well, to my knowing, there is no easy way to know which library to install if you're not a developper. (don't know about auto-apt)
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[05:10] (joee/#ubuntu) and gnome and kde are plenty to much
[05:10] (ompaul/#ubuntu) houman_zhu, run this for yourself 'apt-cache show cpufreqd' it will tell you more about it
[05:10] (ompaul/#ubuntu) joee have a look at fluxbox
[05:11] (letschatt/#ubuntu) h17m4n, 's about time someone made this tool :) i am recompiling my stock kernel that came with ubuntu this weekend. it doesn't obey acpi commands (doesn't suspend, windows does)
[05:11] (h17m4n/#ubuntu) letschatt: make sure that you understand that any program that is not used by and/or is not on the keeper's list will be removed
[05:11] (h17m4n/#ubuntu) cool
[05:11] (houman_zhu/#ubuntu) ompaul: thanks
[05:12] <h17m4n> I will use that same guide later.... to remove kde
[05:12] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:12] <dabaR> maiku-: have you looked at the ubuntu.com web site under downloads?
[05:12] <v1ru5> how to edit kernel parameters?
[05:12] <letschatt> h17m4n, yeah everything requires a ton of documentation the first thing it asked me to remove was gnome-terminal
[05:12] <h17m4n> personally I liked kde's look better
[05:13] <v1ru5> i need help fast, should burn a CD
[05:13] <HappyFool> VoX: no, breezy is the next release of ubuntu (due in October)
[05:13] <v1ru5> how do i add SCSI support to ubuntu's kernel?
[05:13] <maiku-> dabaR the tought had crossed my mind a few times
[05:13] <letschatt> so there's no effective way to remove gnome eh.. that's fine
[05:13] <mjr> v1ru5, do you have an actualy SCSI burner? 'cause you don't do that SCSI thing with ATA burners anymore
[05:13] <dabaR> maiku-: the sun is warm.
[05:13] <mjr> v1ru5, anyway, the base kernel should have scsi support
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: no i have a IDE interfaced cd burner
[05:14] <v1ru5> but xcdroast bitches that i don't
[05:14] <v1ru5> so i suppose i don't have it
[05:14] <maiku-> then I thoguht after trying to use the torrent provided and seeing that there wasn't anything to diretly that I'd ask here
[05:14] <mjr> v1ru5, maybe xcdroast is outdated; have you tried straight-up nautilus-cd-burner
[05:14] <v1ru5> and the default burner prog isn't able to burn cd's either
[05:14] <h17m4n> you could always just remove all g related apps from synaptic(or the package manager from desktop)
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: yah well it complains the cd isn't 700mb
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: while it actually is
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: how to fix this annoying prob? any ideas?
[05:14] <mjr> hmh
[05:15] <mjr> *shrug*
[05:15] <v1ru5> :/
[05:15] <mjr> try cdparanoia from the command line
[05:15] <v1ru5> anyhow, i could try enabling the kernel SCSI support
[05:15] <mjr> don't
[05:15] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:15] <ppd> hi. has anyone here experience with a samsung sgh e700 and irda file transfer?
[05:16] <v1ru5> mjr: well lol @ the cdparanoia thing
[05:16] <v1ru5> mjr: isn't there a GUI available for cdparanoia?
[05:16] <v1ru5> coz command line cd burner = pure shit
[05:16] <mjr> oops, my brain was faulty, cdrecord
[05:16] <mjr> v1ru5, well guess you're pure shit outta luck
[05:16] <v1ru5> :D
[05:16] <mjr> (anyway, yes there are, they're called nautilus-cd-burner and xcdroast, among others)
[05:17] <mjr> I was just wondering if the frontends get something wrong
[05:17] <mjr> you can try eg. gnomebaker too thou
[05:18] <Myrtti> erm.
[05:19] <Myrtti> I got me a new cd-rw-burner, should I fiddle kernel to get the burning options on or should Ubuntu know what to do with the drive automatically?
[05:19] <Myrtti> I have no ideas on what words to use in Google
[05:19] <Myrtti> I tried, though
[05:20] <qt2> can someone recoomend some good dvd authoring software for linux?
[05:20] <Tzi> Myrtti: Ubuntu should hopefully sort it out itself =)
[05:20] <selinium> Hi all, is it possible to have a local folder with debs in and put it in the sources.list file as a repo?
[05:21] <sockpuppe1> anyone know where I can get blackbox skins
[05:21] <sockpuppe1> ?
[05:21] <skaja> ok when i try to install limodems i get this error
[05:21] <joee> ompaul: trying to start fluxbox I get: Make sure you started X before you start fluxbox
[05:21] <skaja> configuration of ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386:
[05:21] <Tzi> Does anyone know if there's a trick to getting keyboard special keys working?  On my last system, running Hoary, my multimedia keys mapped to XF86AudioPlay, etc.. Then I could hop into gconf editor and set up metacity to listen for those keysyms...  Now, though, the keys aren't mapped to any symbol
[05:21] <skaja>  ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386; however:
[05:21] <skaja>   Package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 is not installed.
[05:21] <skaja> dpkg: error processing ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 (--install):
[05:21] <skaja>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:21] <skaja> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:21] <skaja>  ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386
[05:22] <HappyFool> skaja: please don't paste command output here
[05:22] <selinium> skaja: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or you will get booted not help! :)
[05:23] <sockpuppe1> any one know a good spot for blackbox skins
[05:23] <sockpuppe1> ?
[05:23] <selinium> skaja: by the looks of it you are using a different kernel
[05:24] <letschatt> h17m4n, buddy i keep getting this error debfoster is unable to acquire a lock on the keeper file another debfoster process probably has it
[05:24] <HappyFool> sockpuppe1: try #blackbox, or google
[05:24] <v1ru5> mjr: thx for the help, gnomebaker does the job :))
[05:25] <sockpuppe1> HappyFool why is it that your dialog is red?
[05:25] <HappyFool> sockpuppe1: because i included your nick in the message
[05:25] <mjr> v1ru5, well good then
[05:25] <joee> HappyFool: trying to start fluxbox I get: Make sure you started X before you start fluxbox
[05:25] <sockpuppe1> lol
[05:25] <HappyFool> joee: so, is X started? (I don't used fluxbox)
[05:25] <selinium> Hi all, is it possible to have a local folder with debs in and put it in the sources.list file as a repo?
[05:26] <HappyFool> joee: if i were you i would use GDM to login, and select fluxbox as the 'login session' (or whatever it's called)
[05:26] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:26] <ompaul> joee, have you still got gnome on the machine?
[05:26] <HappyFool> joee: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[05:26] <ompaul> joee, what HappyFool said
[05:26] <joee> ompaul no
[05:27] <joee> command not found :/
[05:27] <wouterlabeeuw> joe: or you can try by exec. xinit and than typing fluxbox in the shell to start fluxbox
[05:28] <ompaul> joee, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:28] <HappyFool> joee: you'll have to do what wouterlabeeuw suggests. there is a way to get xinit (or startx?) to use fluxbox as the first command, but i've forgotten what it is
[05:28] <skaja> what kernel verson does ubuntu use
[05:28] <HappyFool> 2.6.10 in hoary
[05:29] <catch_> Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please
[05:29] <v1ru5> how to see CPU use??
[05:29] <v1ru5> what command
[05:29] <catch_> v1ru5 : top
[05:30] <catch_> Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please
[05:30] <ompaul> catch_, please paste the repos have you got installed and we saw it first time
[05:30] <Tzi> Woah.. That's impressive
[05:30] <ompaul> catch into a pastebin
[05:30] <selinium> v1ru5:  or you can use Applications/System Tools/System Monitor
[05:30] <ompaul> !pastebin
[05:30] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:30] <catch_> ompaul : sorry though I wrote it in a different chan
[05:31] <dabaR> catch_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl in other words.
[05:31] <selinium> Is it possible to set up a local repo?
[05:31] <h17m4n> whats the use of BitRock Install Builder?
[05:32] <wouterlabeeuw> joee, try xwmconfig and select fluxbox, then just type startx
[05:32] <ompaul> selinium,  anything is possible, what would you want to do that for?
[05:32] <catch_> dabaR, ompaul : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1862
[05:32] <Tzi> Ahh.. found my problem.. Incidentally if anyone else has a similar problem, and can't seem to get multimedia keys working.. Install xmodmap =)
[05:33] <dabaR> catch_: how about sudo aptitude update, or apt-get update, does that reboot it?
[05:33] <bored2k> is there a real difference between using xine-ui and totem-xine ?
[05:33] <selinium> ompaul: I am compiling some debs, I want to put them somewhere they can be found easily and also can be used by synaptic to install un-install, that kind of thing!
[05:33] <catch_> dabaR : I haven't tried, it normally reboots part way through installing dbus
[05:33] <dabaR> Tzi: Ill keep that in mind.
[05:33] <catch_> or updating i should say
[05:33] <joee> ompaul: xserver is installed
[05:33] <ompaul> selinium, well seems logical enough:)
[05:33] <dabaR> I have no idea.
[05:34] <selinium> ompaul: would you know how to though?
[05:34] <ompaul> selinium, I don't know the specifics but I can say that the best howto I ever saw on apt was on an ibm apt faq
[05:35] <dabaR> selinium: look at a sources.list file, and the corresponding URl, and set up something like that on your computer.
[05:35] <DavidChipman> Hi all!
[05:35] <selinium> ompaul: Cheers
[05:35] <ompaul> joee is gnome/kde running?
[05:35] <selinium> dabaR: something like file:// ? or set up a directory on my webserver?
[05:35] <joee> ompaul no nothing I installed server-version of ubunut
[05:35] <dabaR> selinium: yes. to both.
[05:35] <DavidChipman> Does anybody know when I should set my root password?
[05:36] <HiddenWolf> DavidChipman, don't use root
[05:36] <joee> DavidChipman during installation
[05:36] <selinium> DavidChipman: You dont. use sudo
[05:36] <dabaR> !rootsudo
[05:36] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:36] <DavidChipman> But how do I access my CD burner?
[05:36] <catch_> DavidChipman : you don't it's randomly generated, the first user created has sudo privilages, use that
[05:36] <HiddenWolf> joee, ubuntu doesn't use root.
[05:36] <Diffindo> I'm looking for an open source util that will read/write to UDF formatted CD-RWs in Ubuntu
[05:37] <joee> HiddenWolf yeah but the password you specify during installtion is your sudo passw
[05:37] <mjr> DavidChipman, via a burning program, such as nautilus-cd-burner
[05:37] <ompaul> joee the easy way to do this is 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' then install fluxbox then when the machine boots choose fluxbox
[05:37] <DavidChipman> so, when sudo asks for a passwor, what do I enter?
[05:37] <selinium> DavidChipman: Your password
[05:37] <dabaR> ompaul: :) that is just wrong.
[05:37] <DavidChipman> Really!?
[05:37] <DavidChipman> I ry it
[05:37] <dabaR> to install the whole ubuntu-desktop, to get use of flubox:)
[05:37] <catch_> ompaul : do you have any idea why my box just dies part way through any apt-get ?
[05:38] <selinium> DavidChipman: You would use sudo <command> then it will ask for your password
[05:38] <DavidChipman> Got it now..
[05:38] <ompaul> catch_, not after seeing that and you say you have dbus issues
[05:38] <selinium> DavidChipman: Cool
[05:38] <Tzi> DavidChipman: You wouldn't happen to be an Australian, would you?
[05:38] <joee> ompaul okay gonna go for that
[05:38] <joee> thanks
[05:38] <DavidChipman> No, Canuck..
[05:38] <catch_> ompaul : other than a reinstall any sugestions?
[05:38] <Tzi> Okay =) Just checking
[05:38] <Tzi> Would be a very small world
[05:39] <DavidChipman> What? You know an Aussie with the attitude of a rhino-with-toothache? :)
[05:39] <ompaul> dabaR, space is not the restriction, the guy was struggling to get the box up off the ground, I think it was the path of least resistance
[05:39] <UbuntuN00b> How do I get to the Mixer?
[05:39] <UbuntuN00b> Is it "alseramix" in the terminal?
[05:40] <skaja> ubuntu kerenl verson 2.6.10 right
[05:40] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Tried double-clicking on the volume control in the panel?
[05:40] <ompaul> catch_, well if you did apt-get install foo | tee > LogMe maybe it might help you find the last thing that happens before the machine goes down also check syslog enteries
[05:41] <catch_> ompaul ta will try it now
[05:41] <UbuntuN00b> SO yeah. I also have a RAM Problem.
[05:41] <fivetwentysix> Anyone know if there's any program I can use newsgroups on? Like I could on Outlook Express on Windows?
[05:41] <UbuntuN00b> The system's running at almost 100 percent, and all I have open is Gaim and IRC.
[05:42] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: May be a runaway process.. See if there's anything sus in the system monitor
[05:42] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, what does top say?  You might have a runaway process
[05:42] <Tzi> Snap
[05:43] <fivetwentysix> Would USB sound work on Ubuntu ???
[05:43] <Tzi> I like my version better.. Less terminal reliance :P
[05:43] <Tzi> Hehe
[05:43] <mjr> fivetwentysix, it should
[05:43] <UbuntuN00b> 84% of Memory in use. 32% of which is cached.
[05:43] <zblach> hi. network printing to windows machines?
[05:43] <mjr> fivetwentysix, the next version improves hotplug sound handling, though
[05:43] <ompaul> fivetwentysix, there are several, personally I would use thunderbird http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq <-- will tell you how to if you need that level of help
[05:43] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, how much ram have you got?
[05:44] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, you are looking for a single process that it using a high % of your CPU resources.
[05:44] <UbuntuN00b> I think it's either 128 or 256
[05:44] <UbuntuN00b> It's an old compaq that i'm jst using to get used to linux
[05:45] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, use the command 'free'
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> In terminal, right?
[05:45] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b,  yes, if it says total  256812 then you have 256 :)
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b>      total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> Mem:        127024     125156       1868          0       1032      40744
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> -/+ buffers/cache:      83380      43644
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> Swap:       369452      44912     324540
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> :(
[05:46] <Tzi> (Be careful with pasting here, by the way)
[05:46] <UbuntuN00b> SOrry. :)
[05:46] <UbuntuN00b> Just wanted to show.
[05:46] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, okay, you have 128, and second do not paste output in here :) it will get you kicked use a pastebin like http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:46] <Tzi> Open system monitor, and click on the column header marked '% CPU'..
[05:46] <v1ru5> is there a command to force CDrom drive to eject??
[05:47] <v1ru5> the motherfucker stays closed
[05:47] <v1ru5> :/
[05:47] <Tzi> Sort in descending order.. If there's a process at the top using a large amount of cpu, that's a problem
[05:47] <Tzi> v1ru5: I know exactly what you mean =) sudo eject -f
[05:47] <UbuntuN00b> But, if it's a ram problem...then what
[05:47] <ompaul> v1ru5, language and the command is 'sudo eject /media/disk'
[05:47] <Tzi> Then you need more ram =)
[05:47] <UbuntuN00b> Poop. lol
[05:48] <zblach> v1ru5, right-click on the icon on desktop and 'eject'
[05:48] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:48] <UbuntuN00b> WHy doesn't it slow down when I'm running windows?
[05:48] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, u useing win 98 or some such?
[05:48] <Bwl> A
[05:48] <UbuntuN00b> XP.
[05:48] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Out of curiosity...  'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda'
[05:49] <UbuntuN00b> What do you want me to copy and paste?
[05:50] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, pastebin
[05:50] <Tzi> Chuck it into the pastebin if you like..
[05:50] <Tzi> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:50] <UbuntuN00b> K, it's there.
[05:50] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, and while your pasting cat /proc/cpuinfo across into pastebin
[05:51] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, >> cat /proc/cpuinfo <<
[05:51] <UbuntuN00b> Where do I put that?
[05:51] <UbuntuN00b> lol
[05:51] <ompaul> terminal and pastebin
[05:51] <qt2> can someone recoomend some good dvd authoring software for linux?
[05:51] <zblach> can hoary auto-detect network printers?
[05:52] <Tzi> Woaaahhhhhhh
[05:52] <Tzi> Damn
[05:52] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: You have a driver problem
[05:52] <Tzi> 143 Mb/s cached reads, 15 Mb/s disk reads... ouch =)
[05:52] <Musko> Ok, that it! I'm going back to Win3.1
[05:52] <UbuntuN00b> Posted that one you wanted me to
[05:52] <Tzi> Win 3.1? Pah... Dos 6.2, baby
[05:53] <UbuntuN00b> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:53] <Musko> I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:53] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, put that in a pastebin
[05:53] <Tzi> It is..
[05:53] <UbuntuN00b> YEah, it's there.
[05:53] <Tzi> So.. Presumably your drive isn't that slow.. is DMA on?
[05:53] <Tzi> hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:54] <Tzi> (that's just a one-liner.. You can put that here)
[05:54] <UbuntuN00b> jerry@geleff:~$ hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:54] <UbuntuN00b> /dev/hda: Permission denied
[05:54] <Tzi> sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:55] <UbuntuN00b>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:55] <Tzi> Okay.. So perhaps the chipset driver isn't loaded
[05:55] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, if you handed a command that does not work and gives permission denied usually it is a matter of putting 'sudo' in front of the command :) this allows you have super user powers on the machine :)
[05:56] <UbuntuN00b> oh alright. :)
[05:56] <UbuntuN00b> coo.
[05:56] <Tzi> Hehe.. super user.. Just remember to put your cape on
[05:56] <zblach> i'm having trouble setting up network printers. has anyone gotten them to work?
[05:56] <Tzi> So.. can anyone suggest a module to load to make that cache read faster?
[05:56] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Try googling/searching on ubuntuforums.org for your machine
[05:57] <selinium> ompaul: It looks like I can sort a local repos, but it is looking for a Packages.gz? Would you know what it is supposed to contain?
[05:57] <zblach> *sigh* network printing. not easy in ubuntu?
[05:57] <ompaul> selinium, I will ask around - hang on a sec
[05:57] <selinium> ompaul: cheers
[05:57] <fivetwentysix> OK, I can't get my usb sound to work, seems like I need drivers for it, it's the Steel 5H USB edition C-media drivers I need. I can't seem to find it anywhere.
[05:58] <h17m4n> does anyone know if I could just install fglrx from synaptic?
[05:58] <h17m4n> or how to check what driver is installed for the video card
[05:58] <thrush_2> h17m4n, seems to be there..
[05:58] <reiki> zblach: my very first ubuntu setup
[05:58] <LathropWells> maybe ubotu knows about fglrx
[05:59] <zblach> reiki, how'd you do it?
[05:59] <reiki> I printed to an Epson shared on another machine
[05:59] <ompaul> selinium, take a pm?
[05:59] <LathropWells> !fglrx
[05:59] <ubotu> hmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <selinium> ompaul: sure
[05:59] <ompaul> selinium, its long :)
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> SOrry, I was on the phone.
[05:59] <selinium> lol
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> What do I search for now?
[05:59] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: What's your machine?
[05:59] <reiki> zblach: going from memory here... (and I'm 52 so....)  I seem to recall having to set up an lpr printer and enter the IP and preinter sharename
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> Compaq something or other.
[06:00] <Tzi> I'd be looking to see if anyone else has had similar probs with the same hardware
[06:00] <FlangeR> Can someone pls help me with setting up my usb palm? I've followed ubuntuguide and usb howto's, added rules in /etc/udev/rules, and still nothing seems to work. Help pls?
[06:00] <zblach> reiki, thats somewhat complicated. nothing with samba?
[06:00] <UbuntuN00b> Hum, i'm trying to find the model
[06:01] <UbuntuN00b> Presario
[06:01] <Tzi> In particular, look for cache speed
[06:02] <Tzi> Cos 145mb/s is really slow.. You should be getting in the order of 600mb/s, really
[06:02] <UbuntuN00b> WHere do I get that?
[06:02] <Tzi> In reads from your hard disk
[06:03] <UbuntuN00b> So, I need to look at my hard drive?
[06:03] <Tzi> It's more likely to be your chipset..
[06:03] <Tzi> But it'll certainly be a factor in your system being slow
[06:04] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, what does lspci say?  Does it give details on the PCI or Host Bridge?
[06:04] <FlangeR> If nobody can help me, does anybody know where I could get more help?
[06:04] <Tzi> Is it just me, or does evolution really, really suck?
[06:04] <UbuntuN00b> lspci?
[06:04] <h17m4n> would it be safe to delete the ndiswrapper folders that I used to set it up from my home folder? it has a lock on it
[06:04] <lsuactiafner> whats the program that keeps redoing my menu's after i use apt?
[06:04] <Tzi> FlangeR: I'd be seeing if you can get device ids from the usb system.. And googling for them
[06:05] <Tzi> FlangeR: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices, then look for your device, and find the vendor/product ids just above it (on the line that starts 'P:')
[06:05] <FlangeR> Tzi, from var/log/messages right?
[06:07] <skaja> what is that pase it site
[06:07] <Tzi> !pastebin
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:07] <LathropWells> !flood
[06:07] <ubotu> [flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[06:07] <Bwl> Tzi: Heh, you understood what he said. :P
[06:07] <brenner> lsuactiafner: usually done by gnome-panel restarting
[06:08] <Tzi> Bwl: I'll have you know I detect 5 bit errors, and correct 2 :P
[06:08] <UbuntuN00b> :( Am I doomed?
[06:08] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Someone probably will've got that hardware working..
[06:09] <Tzi> Just type 'lspci' and look for 'pci bridge' stuff
[06:09] <UbuntuN00b> Can you find anything on it?
[06:09] <UbuntuN00b> Where do I type that?
[06:09] <brenner> apps > sys tools > terminal
[06:09] <skaja> can some one help with this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1861
[06:09] <Tzi> On the refrigerator.. :P
[06:10] <Tzi> Is it just me, or does Evolution completely suck?
[06:10] <Tzi> I really, really wanna use it...
[06:10] <UbuntuN00b> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:10] <Tzi> But it self-destructs all the bloody time=)
[06:10] <Tzi> skaja: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386
[06:10] <UbuntuN00b> Ok, I pasted.
[06:10] <skaja> i cant get online
[06:11] <brenner> skaja: er, i think that package is broken
[06:11] <brenner> Tzi: breezy?
[06:11] <skaja> grr when where do i get lt modems
[06:11] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: sudo modprobe via82cxxx
[06:12] <skaja> !tell skaja about ltmodems
[06:12] <UbuntuN00b> It asked for a password, and nothing happened.
[06:12] <Tzi> brenner: You can't find any? That's weird..
[06:12] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Cool.. You should be right now.. Just test again - sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[06:12] <brenner> Tzi: can you? :-/
[06:13] <brenner> closest i get is kernel-image-netbootable
[06:13] <Tzi> Oh =) linux-image
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b>  Timing cached reads:   288 MB in  2.01 seconds = 143.09 MB/sec
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b>  Timing buffered disk reads:   34 MB in  3.01 seconds =  11.30 MB/sec
[06:13] <Tzi> Oh, blah
[06:13] <FlangeR> Tzi, thanks for your last advice, but what when I can't find my device listed in proc/usb/devices?
[06:13] <brenner> skaja: where'd you get the deb file?
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b> Poopie.
[06:14] <LathropWells> UbuntuNOOB - am seeing the same numbers here. - seems okay no?
[06:14] <Tzi> FlangeR: Oh, joy =) Okay, so it doesn't even register the device name, that means it either is entirely unsupported, or it is supported but not known.  I'd go through the devices, discount the ones you know aren't your device, and search for the ones that might be
[06:14] <brenner> skaja: an apt-cache search on 'ltmodem' returns some linux-restricted-modules packages....maybe get one of those
[06:14] <Tzi> FlangeR: Just do a google search for the vendor/product ids
[06:14] <skaja> www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem
[06:14] <UbuntuN00b> LathropWells: It's slow. :-p
[06:14] <skaja> www.close.u-net.com/ltmodem.html
[06:15] <flodine> anyone running breezy?
[06:15] <LathropWells> It is fast enough for Unreal Tournament.
[06:15] <Tzi> LathropWells: 143mb/s cached?  Sounds nasty to me
[06:15] <FlangeR> ok, thanks
[06:15] <Tzi> flodine: Yep =)
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: you used the debian package right?
[06:15] <skaja> yep
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: probably configged for debian then
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: get the source, and then use checkinstall to install
[06:16] <brenner> to make things easy
[06:16] <flodine> every time i run breezy the bootloader doesnt work why?
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> neh not gnome panel restarting that makes blackbox get new menus, don't have gdm running @ all or gnome
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> some program keeps redoing my custum blackbox menu when i do apt-get upgrade
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> and its very annoying
[06:16] <skaja> i even used http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/ubuntu-ltmodem-2.6.10-5-386_8.31a13_i386.deb
[06:16] <Tzi> flodine: Whatcha mean doesn't work
[06:17] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: ANy other ideas? :(
[06:17] <flodine> well breezy just dont boot
[06:17] <flodine> get a black scrren
[06:17] <ompaul> !breezy
[06:17] <ubotu> well, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:17] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: So you mentioned your CPU hovers around 100%.. Have you determined what process is causing it?
[06:17] <UbuntuN00b> No.
[06:18] <UbuntuN00b> CPU Runs around 15.
[06:18] <Tzi> flodine: Hmm.. How far does it get?
[06:18] <UbuntuN00b> MY Ram is running high
[06:18] <Tzi> Ah..
[06:18] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ?
[06:18] <IceDC571> does the sound blaster x-fi work on ubuntu?
[06:18] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you called?
[06:18] <Tzi> My ram runs high too, and I have 512 mb.. Linux tends to.. expand a bit, to fill the space available, which isn't necessarily a bad thing
[06:18] <youngcoder> heya bud
[06:18] <Tzi> Is it particulary slow?
[06:18] <HappyFool> that beep-on-nick thing has it's uses ;)
[06:18] <brenner> ubotu: tell IceDC571 about hardware
[06:18] <youngcoder> im compiling the 2.6.13 kernel and figured i would stop by and check to see how you are doing
[06:19] <HappyFool> eek
[06:19] <HappyFool> do you need the new kernel?
[06:19] <youngcoder> no
[06:19] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: It's alot slow.
[06:19] <youngcoder> just wanted to compile it
[06:19] <youngcoder> but
[06:19] <UbuntuN00b> I guess I need to buy more?
[06:19] <brenner> HappyFool: what irc client you using?
[06:19] <HappyFool> ok. make sure to keep the ubuntu one around if/when things go wrong ;)
[06:19] <HappyFool> brenner: emacs erc
[06:19] <brenner> bah
[06:19] <youngcoder> i do have 2 computers that are solely for experimental purposes
[06:19] <HappyFool> brenner: but x-chat does something similar
[06:20] <HappyFool> 'echo *'
[06:20] <brenner> HappyFool: yes...i never managed to get it working.  why i asked. :)
[06:20] <youngcoder> brenner, what error are you getting with x-chat?
[06:20] <HappyFool> youngcoder: fair enough
[06:20] <IceDC571> hmm.. the alsa pages dont mention anything about the soundblaster x-fi.. looks like linux developers dont care about new hardware
[06:20] <ompaul> HappyFool, sorry I want the contents of those :) ahh I'll play with xargs and some other stuff for a minute or so
[06:20] <brenner> youngcoder: not an error persay, just can't work it out. :)
[06:21] <flodine> Tzi i install breezy the same way i do hoary but when it says its done and reboot it doesnt
[06:21] <youngcoder> brenner, well if you expalin i might can help
[06:21] <brenner> IceDC571: or someone hasn't submitted their success yet. :P
[06:21] <LathropWells> IceDC - did you search sourceforge? freshmeat?
[06:21] <HappyFool> ompaul: echo */* ?
[06:21] <IceDC571> haha... damn creative
[06:21] <youngcoder> i cant config samba but i love x-chat :)
[06:21] <brenner> youngcoder: ok, how would i go about getting a sound to play when someone posts with my name in it?
[06:22] <ompaul> HappyFool, thanks thats the one
[06:22] <brenner> er, preferrably no the beep either. :)
[06:22] <fivetwentysix> Is there a program i can use to convert videos to psp format?
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: SO, basically I buy more?
[06:22] <IceDC571> i dont think they release open source drivers because alsa is a lot more successful than they'll ever be
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> fivetwentysix: pspvideo 9
[06:22] <ompaul> HappyFool, was looking at ls -R but then you have to strip out the directory names - yuk
[06:22] <flodine> can someone tell me why hoary doesnt update to kernel 2.6.12?
[06:22] <HappyFool> ompaul: i'd probably use find with -exec
[06:22] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[06:23] <brenner> flodine: security updates only iirc
[06:23] <fivetwentysix> Is that available on repositries?
[06:23] <youngcoder> settings-->sound-->your messege
[06:23] <elvirolo> hi all
[06:23] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: More ram is always good..
[06:23] <youngcoder> brenner, settings-->sound-->your messege
[06:23] <flodine> has anyone updateed there hoary to kernel to 2.6.12
[06:23] <youngcoder> brenner, then select a sound
[06:23] <brenner> youngcoder: k, now i know which event...what do i put in sound playing method?
[06:24] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: I dunno really, without actually being physically at the computer there's not much more I could suggest
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: YEs. WHat doed Ubuntu run on anyway?
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> How much ram
[06:24] <Tzi> flodine: I'm 2.6.12-6-686
[06:24] <elvirolo> i just upgraded to breezy ... and the boot process halts at "checking battery state" (although i don't have a laptop)
[06:24] <ompaul> HappyFool, it ends up getting pumped through ogg123 -z  move a few files in and out randomly and you get a continious playlist of all availabe muzac that works for the purposes here
[06:24] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[06:24] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: You what now?
[06:24] <youngcoder> brenner, automatic doesnt work?
[06:24] <flodine> Tzi you on breezy
[06:24] <Tzi> flodine: Yup
[06:24] <brenner> youngcoder: hang on.. just changed. can you post something again? :)
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: How much ram does ubunto use
[06:24] <Tzi> Oh
[06:24] <Tzi> Duh
[06:25] <brenner> youngcoder: actually, i heard the sound...when _i_ post. :)
[06:25] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: I've got 512mb, currently 487mb used
[06:25] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, as much as you can put in your machine, though in your case half a gig would be fantastic
[06:25] <youngcoder> brenner, thats a start
[06:25] <Tzi> Mind you, I ask a lot of my machine...
[06:25] <flodine> well has anyone on 5.04 updated there kernel?
[06:25] <elvirolo> has anyone experienced the same prob as me ?
[06:25] <UbuntuN00b> Ompaul: I have 1024 in my other desktop, but im experimenting here before i move to that one
[06:26] <youngcoder> brenner, have you selected an event for your messege?
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> I love Linux, I'm just so sucky at commands and such.
[06:26] <Tzi> elvirolo: Sounds irritating =) Have you googled/searched ubuntuforums?
[06:26] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, then you will be fine
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> Plus, I don't like some of the compatibility issues.
[06:26] <elvirolo> Tzi: i have :(
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: "your message" is for when the user posts
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: just working out which one is the trigger for when someone posts to _me_
[06:26] <Tzi> elvirolo: Try booting with 'noacpi'
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> Like. I want most of my Windows programs to run
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: sound seems to work though. *thumbs up*
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> But, that's not possible.
[06:26] <elvirolo> Tzi: oh yeah, good idea, i hadn't thought of that
[06:27] <elvirolo> thanks
[06:27] <adjacent> hmm. im new to ubuntu's packages... where is smbmount?
[06:27] <brenner> youngcoder: can you try again pls?
[06:27] <Tzi> elvirolo: Or mv /etc/rc2.d/S99acpi-support /etc/rc2.d/K99acpi-support, if that doesn't work
[06:27] <adjacent> mount -t smbfs gives an error about no support in dmesg
[06:28] <Tzi> But it should
[06:28] <youngcoder> brenner, does it work ?
[06:28] <HappyFool> adjacent: try -t cifs ?
[06:28] <HappyFool> adjacent: or do 'sudo modprobe smbfs' and try again
[06:28] <brenner> no, not that time either.....i'll just ask #xchat....thanks though!
[06:28] <youngcoder> brenner, any luck?
[06:28] <Tzi> So.. Has anyone else had issues with Evolution showing a blank inbox? (Even though mine's currently reporting 1 new message)
[06:29] <Tzi> Other folders seem to be fine
[06:29] <adjacent> HappyFool: smbfs is loaded. still eroors
[06:29] <adjacent> HappyFool: im playing with cifs now
[06:29] <brenner> youngcoder: i think i got it this time...
[06:29] <youngcoder> which one was it?
[06:29] <HappyFool> adjacent: smbmount is in the 'smbfs' package
[06:30] <brenner> youngcoder: nvm, didn't work. :)
[06:30] <youngcoder> brenner, i personal dont have it set that way but i am curious
[06:30] <brenner> oh! i heard it!
[06:30] <youngcoder> brenner, did you try the beep ?
[06:30] <Rayen> hi, i was wondering if is possible to install Ubuntu on a small ISO (less than 100 MB) ?
[06:30] <brenner> youngcoder: i think it's "channel msg highlight"
[06:30] <youngcoder> ahh
[06:30] <youngcoder> try that
[06:30] <HappyFool> adjacent: smbfs is dependent on smbclient, which is in turn dependent on ubuntu-desktop (and kubuntu-desktop), so on a normal install you should have it
[06:31] <youngcoder> that would make sense
[06:31] <HappyFool> Rayen: not easily, i don't think, but i may be wrong
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, any luck?
[06:31] <brenner> youngcoder: yep...that's the one!
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, woot
[06:31] <brenner> youngcoder: thanks for your testing. :)
[06:31] <adjacent> HappyFool: that was it. i had samba-common, etc installed, but smbfs was messed up
[06:31] <adjacent> HappyFool: thanks
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, trial and error my friend
[06:31] <HappyFool> adjacent: np
[06:31] <brenner> everyone else: sorry for flooding. :P
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, thank for helping me flood its my hobby :P
[06:31] <HappyFool> Rayen: you can experiment with the 'expert' install mode and see how little you can install
[06:32] <Rayen> HappyFool That's great! I will try that :)
[06:32] <brenner> HappyFool: i think he wants a samll iso, not a small install. :-/
[06:32] <brenner> *small
[06:32] <Tritis> Anyone know how to fix the gnome1 fonts in GnuCash?
[06:32] <Rayen> HappyFool is there any documentation for the expert install  ?
[06:32] <HappyFool> oh
[06:32] <HappyFool> Rayen: oops, my mistake
[06:33] <HappyFool> Rayen: i didn't notice the 'ISO' bit there
[06:33] <Rayen> hehe
[06:33] <Rayen> so I need to get the 600/700 MB file?
[06:33] <brenner> Rayen: afaik, no....the ISOs available are all there is
[06:33] <brenner> i think so, yes
[06:33] <Rayen> ok
[06:33] <brenner> tehre's shipit
[06:33] <rushi> hi, re. breezy kernel, does anyone know if radeonfb patch allowing radeon_force_sleep will be included?
[06:33] <brenner> *there's
[06:34] <brenner> Rayen: you can get the cds shipped to you for free if you can wait
[06:34] <amep> I have a laptop that fails during suspend to RAM (goes down, but oopses on the way up before the screen lights up). The machine is a Compaq R3000z AMD64 system and I used the dailly CD image of yesterdat. How should I go about debugging? and is suspend to RAM a target for breezy so should I even bother? Suspend to disk worked.
[06:35] <moparfan90> hello. i have mplayer installed but cant watch this movie... i get this error and then the movie sound starts playing... its a .wmv
[06:35] <moparfan90> what do i do?
[06:35] <Webby`> momparfan90: you need the w32codecs
[06:36] <moparfan90> how do i get that
[06:36] <moparfan90> ?
[06:36] <meeep> hi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?
[06:36] <Gorth> is free-java-sdk all i need to start programming in java?
[06:36] <Gorth> (is that the same SDK i'd get off the sun website)
[06:36] <Webby`> momparfan90: It's on this page: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html click on the one that says all
[06:36] <moparfan90> Webby`, how do i get that?
[06:36] <moparfan90> o
[06:36] <meeep> gorth
[06:36] <Gorth> yes meeep?
[06:36] <meeep> gorth, download the JDK and netbeans from sun's homepage
[06:36] <brenner> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> hello everyone, I'm working on a sound problem
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> when I do "fuser /dev/dsp"
[06:37] <brenner> i think that coveres jdk as well
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> I get the following notice:
[06:37] <Gorth> ah
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> arachnion@Spanky:~$ fuser /dev/dsp
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> /dev/.static/dev: Permission denied
[06:37] <brenner> *covers
[06:37] <Gorth> thanks ya'll
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> does anyone have an idea what this means?
[06:37] <meeep> hi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?
[06:38] <Gorth> i assume sun-j2sdk1.5 comes straight from sun??
[06:38] <meeep> Gorth, correct
[06:38] <brenner> Gorth: seems so
[06:38] <meeep> thats the one you should use!
[06:38] <Gorth> thanks ya'll!
[06:38] <Gorth> :D
[06:39] <meeep> darn, does any1 here know how to make a script?
[06:39] <meeep> !script
[06:39] <ubotu> meeep: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:40] <Gorth> is cedega worth 5 dollars a month?
[06:40] <Gorth> or does WINE do just as good of a job :O
[06:40] <Gorth> or should i break down and reboot to windows everytime i want to play my games :("
[06:41] <brenner> cedega cvs is free iirc ... not sure of the functionality hit it takes though
[06:41] <Gorth> indeed
[06:41] <Gorth> thanks
[06:41] <brenner> sadly, i still dualboot for gaming
[06:41] <Gorth> :(
[06:41] <brenner> except for q3 :)
[06:41] <Gorth> i just don't have any firewalls or anti virus deals on my windows partition
[06:42] <Gorth> (and i don't really need em on my linux partition :O)
[06:42] <amep> brenner: the CVS version doesn't have the install shield support so installing the games is hard.
[06:42] <Gorth> so i hate getting on windows
[06:42] <seife> hi
[06:42] <seife> i just installed ubuntu
[06:42] <seife> first time using this OS
[06:42] <seife> ive used windows all my life
[06:42] <seife> tell me what u guys recommend to me
[06:42] <brenner> amep: interesting.  i heard dx9 support doesn't exist either?
[06:42] <Gorth> seife: that's a pretty broad request
[06:42] <aRAchNiON> seife, anything in particular?
[06:43] <brenner> Gorth: just get zone-alarm and avast
[06:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, you said to make sure i keep the hoary kernel
[06:43] <meeep> darn, does any1 here know how to make a script?
[06:43] <asdc> sorry, i don't want to be boring
[06:43] <seife> ok
[06:43] <HappyFool> youngcoder: yip
[06:43] <seife> help
[06:43] <Gorth> thanks brenner
[06:43] <seife> i have never used this lol
[06:43] <asdc> but i have some problems with my apt
[06:43] <seife> i would like to install the sound
[06:43] <seife> to hear some music
[06:43] <amep> brenner: I don't know. It been a while since I looked I just know that installshield is copyright incumbered so it cannot be released for free.
[06:43] <aRAchNiON> seife ;) that can be a bit of a problem
[06:43] <seife> what type of music files can i listen to in linux?
[06:43] <asdc> Reading package lists... Done
[06:43] <asdc> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:43] <asdc> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:43] <asdc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:43] <asdc>   amule: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <seife> why?
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libwxbase2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you should be able to have multiple kernels (and related files) in /boot
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, not sure im gonna install it because i have heard nothing but bad things but i might
[06:43] <asdc>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gimp but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <aRAchNiON> ubuntu seems to have some sound issues
[06:43] <asdc>                   Depends: gstreamer0.8-x but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <HappyFool> asdc: please don't paste in here
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ttf-baekmuk but it is not going to be installed
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ttf-kochi-gothic but it is not going to be installed
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installedE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:44] <brenner> asdc: DON'T paste!
[06:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, that is what i was hoping
[06:44] <asdc> oops
[06:44] <asdc> sorry
[06:44] <aRAchNiON> try and test your sound by doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[06:44] <asdc> sorry sorry!
[06:44] <HappyFool> youngcoder: the risk is probably not that great
[06:44] <brenner> asdc: in future, use a pastebin for > 3 lines
[06:44] <seife> wtf is that cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[06:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ya i can always revert back
[06:44] <brenner> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:44] <aRAchNiON> oh sorry, seife, you know how to use terminals?
[06:44] <seife> where i have to put that.
[06:44] <seife> no, this is first time i use this
[06:44] <seife> lol
[06:44] <brenner> !terminal
[06:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, terminal is in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.
[06:44] <brenner> seife: ^^^
[06:45] <moparfan90> helo again
[06:46] <moparfan90> where are the codecs for mplayer ?
[06:46] <brenner> asdc: you might be missing some repos
[06:46] <brenner> !repos
[06:46] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:46] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[06:46] <brenner> moparfan90: on the mplayer site
[06:47] <moparfan90> i read the read me its not where they said it would be>
[06:47] <moparfan90> ?\
[06:47] <asdc> brenner and i solve it in the /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[06:47] <brenner> moparfan90: er didn't Webby` tell you how already?
[06:48] <brenner> asdc: yes
[06:48] <moparfan90> no just the site
[06:48] <huhmz> Hi. How can I see all the messages from when the computer is booting? that is the output of the init scripts, not just /var/log/messages
[06:48] <asdc> so I have to change some repositories.... there is a list in the ubunto page?
[06:49] <asdc> ok
[06:49] <asdc> thanks
[06:50] <Seveas> moparfan90, ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[06:50] <brenner> huhmz: dmesg | less
[06:50] <huhmz> brenner: no
[06:51] <brenner> asdc: there's a sample one on the second link in ubotu's last post
[06:51] <athlon> ve never burnt a dvd+rw before, is there any other parameter that I have to set or will k3b recognize that the media is rewriteable ?
[06:51] <asdc> ok
[06:51] <asdc> i'm just on it
[06:53] <catch_> hi, I was having a problem earlyer which a couple of you were helping me with, when ever I did any apt-get upgrade function my machine froze or rebooted
[06:54] <moparfan90> Seveas, whats that?
[06:54] <catch_> I've narrowed it down to the deletion of a couple of files, when i try and do it by hand as root (sudo su) it also causes my machine to die
[06:54] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[06:54] <moparfan90> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net, nevermind
[06:54] <catch_> They seem to just be readme files and changelogs in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-1
[06:55] <catch_> I was wondering if anyone would know why deleting them would cause my machine to suddently die
[06:55] <Gorth> is there a repository with netbeans?
[06:55] <Gorth> or do i just have to MANUALLY DO THAT ONE
[06:55] <pmazer> anyone know of a program like squirrelmail that might be better?
[06:55] <Gorth> ubuntu's made me lazy :(
[06:55] <s_wart> can someone point me to a FAQ page on how to upgrade from hoary?
[06:56] <Gorth> there's a new one?
[06:56] <s_wart> just want to get some newer packages
[06:56] <brenner> s_wart: you sure you want to?
[06:56] <brenner> :)
[06:56] <s_wart> I just restaged an hour ago. I will do it again if necessary :)
[06:57] <brenner> Gorth: breezy....will be officially released in october
[06:57] <brenner> !upgrade
[06:57] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:57] <Gorth> ah
[06:57] <s_wart> brilliant. thanks vm
[06:57] <Gorth> thanks brenner
[06:57] <brenner> s_wart: replace warty with hoary, and hoary with breezy. :)
[06:57] <catch_> brenner : how stable is breezy?
[06:57] <ubercompuser> i woud like to know on a 3 pin fan connector. what colors are what?
[06:57] <Gorth> who makes these names?!
[06:58] <brenner> catch_: can't say personally having never used it.....people who have have said it goes back and forth between being broken
[06:59] <seife> anyone can help me
[06:59] <seife> i want to install sound card
[06:59] <seife> to get sound on speakers :(
[06:59] <seife> im newb
[06:59] <catch_> do you or anyone else know why trying to delete txt files in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-1 would cause my machine to die?
[06:59] <Rayen> Is Debian able to install/work with -all- Ubuntu (Apt-Get) Packages ?
[07:00] <brenner> catch_: define die. :)
[07:00] <brenner> Rayen: afaik, it's a bad idea to mix the two
[07:01] <Seveas> Rayen, ubuntu is not debian
[07:01] <Seveas> don't mix repositories
[07:01] <brenner> they're different distros and as such have different configs
[07:01] <mumbles> yay - my wirewing worked first time for once
[07:01] <catch_> brenner : either the screen goes black and the box reboots or it hangs, I assume the kernel is dead when it hangs
[07:01] <seife> is anyone helping me :( ?
[07:01] <Gorth> what do i need to install with aptitude to get all the compilers?
[07:01] <Gorth> without having to do them separately??
[07:01] <Seveas> Gorth, build-essential
[07:01] <brenner> seife: do you get any sound at all?
[07:01] <Gorth> seveas, thanks
[07:01] <Rayen> brenner but Ubuntu is able to work with Debian?!
[07:02] <Seveas> Gorth, that does not include java compilers however
[07:02] <moparfan90> hello. ok i added the codecs and still get a error
[07:02] <Gorth> gcj?
[07:02] <Seveas> Gorth, not in hoary
[07:02] <HappyFool> Rayen: ubuntu is based on debian, but there can be binary incompatabilities (e.g., libc version)
[07:02] <Webby`> Did you restart your xomputer?
[07:02] <Maikeru> hey
[07:02] <seife> no i dont
[07:02] <__filip_> how can i mount my hda6 that is an ext3 partition?
[07:02] <seife> im TOTALLY newb.
[07:02] <Maikeru> I have an older laptop and am using the DWL-650 Revision P PCMCIA card.
[07:03] <moparfan90> no. do i have to?
[07:03] <Maikeru> I have been on google for hours trying to find information
[07:03] <Seveas> __filip_, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /path/to/desired/mountpoint
[07:03] <Maikeru> I finally got ndiswrapper working and loaded the winxp drivers through it
[07:03] <moparfan90> Webby`, do i have to?
[07:03] <brenner> Rayen: use ubuntu packages/repos
[07:03] <__filip_> Seveas: ok
[07:03] <Webby`> i think so
[07:03] <moparfan90> ok
[07:03] <moparfan90> brb
[07:03] <Rayen> ok
[07:03] <Seveas> Maikeru, yeah ndiswrapper is a bitch sometimes
[07:03] <Maikeru> ndiswrapper -l says that the netprism is loaded
[07:04] <Maikeru> Well, I do iwconfig wlan0 and ifconfig wlan0
[07:04] <Maikeru> neither can find it
[07:04] <brenner> seife: not even when you click on icons?  (i.e. the drum sound)
[07:04] <Maikeru> I'm tired and just want to get on the net via my laptop
[07:04] <Maikeru> can anybody -please- walk me through this
[07:04] <Seveas> Maikeru, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[07:05] <Seveas> it should say 'driver present, hardware present'
[07:05] <Maikeru> BTW: Kernel 2.6.10-5-386, Ubuntu Hoary release
[07:05] <Seveas> ah
[07:05] <Maikeru> netprism driver present
[07:05] <Seveas> switch to linux-686 (pentium processor) or linux-k7 (amd)
[07:05] <El_Che> small question: any idea why dvi will work on the console but not on X?
[07:05] <Seveas> the -386 has been troublesome with ndiswrapper
[07:05] <flodine> can ubuntu uzip mpg files
[07:06] <Maikeru> Hrm
[07:06] <Seveas> flodine, that makes no sense....
[07:06] <Maikeru> Er
[07:06] <Maikeru> Can I speak to you in PM real quick?
[07:06] <Seveas> mpg files are not zips
[07:06] <Seveas> Maikeru, sure
[07:07] <seife> no
[07:07] <seife> not sound at all
[07:07] <ubercompuser> which connectors on a 3 pin fan represent
[07:07] <brenner> seife: have a read of this then: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[07:07] <seife> brenner
[07:07] <seife> i have sound
[07:07] <brenner> seife: search the forum if none of that works
[07:07] <seife> on my headphones
[07:07] <seife> when i click icons
[07:08] <seife> but i dont get sound
[07:08] <seife> on the speakers
[07:08] <Gorth> SOUNDS like speaker problems!
[07:08] <chumphries> hello, i installed server package, and postfix is installed and running, and i can netcat to port 25 locally, yet not remotely, iptables allows port 25 in, and that is correct. also why are a lot of microsoft looking services look like they are running except samba is not installed.
[07:08] <seife> the speakers needs a CD to be installed
[07:08] <moparfan90> hello again
[07:09] <seife> i ise to use that cd
[07:09] <seife> in windows
[07:09] <seife> but i dunno if i can use it on linux
[07:09] <moparfan90> i restarted and it doesnt wok
[07:09] <a_monkey> gcc 3.3.5 is a huge man page, and i don't feel like scrolling thru the whole thing in a terminal shell
[07:09] <a_monkey> any way i can see the gcc 3.3.5 man page as html or something?
[07:10] <lonewolff> install man2html
[07:10] <lonewolff> man2html - Turns a web-browser and an httpd-server into a man pager
[07:10] <lonewolff> or use stuff on tldp.org
[07:10] <a_monkey> um
[07:10] <a_monkey> ok
[07:10] <Jhair> a_monkey, emacs has a man mode where you can display man pages... (M-x man)
[07:10] <a_monkey> Jhair: oh cool
[07:10] <brenner> seife: like i said, try that page, then search the forum
[07:11] <brenner> jhaa: why not just use a terminal then? :-/
[07:11] <moparfan90> i m using mplayer and cant play a wmv movie. how can i fix this?
[07:11] <brenner> what's the difference?
[07:12] <Seveas> moparfan90, install their codecs
[07:12] <brenner> moparfan90: some wm* files aren't supported iirc
[07:12] <moparfan90> i did it doesnt work
[07:12] <brenner> the more recent formats especially
[07:12] <moparfan90> is there any way to fix it?
[07:12] <moparfan90> o
[07:13] <fivetwentysix> Hurray, I got my newsgroups working in Thunderbird!
[07:13] <Jhair> brenner, the emacs man-mode has some nice features like following links to reference to other man pages for example
[07:13] <Xappe> moparfan90: http://nanocrew.net/?p=129 <-- something like that perhaps
[07:13] <brenner> jhaa: sort of like 'info' then?
[07:14] <Tufek> I have ubuntu 4.10 version , Is it support sata raid 0 or no?
[07:14] <seife> ok
[07:14] <moparfan90> i dont have breeze
[07:15] <Xappe> moparfan90: well, that could work on hoary?
[07:15] <moparfan90> ok
[07:15] <Xappe> but i'm far from sure :)
[07:15] <Xappe> just remembered that I saw that url in the forums today
[07:16] <moparfan90> ok
[07:18] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[07:18] <moparfan90> it cant find the files
[07:18] <jhaa> brenner ?
[07:19] <brenner> nvm, i guess
[07:19] <Gorth> how do i run a jar?
[07:19] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone tell me how to permanently change my hostname?
[07:20] <chumphries> /etc/hostname ?
[07:20] <Concord_Dawn> thanks.
[07:22] <brenner> Gorth: what does 'file <filename.jar>' say?
[07:22] <TestDummy> Ugh, this new policy sucks :(
[07:22] <Gorth> jedit42install.jar: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract
[07:22] <huhmz> which package does the "misc" fonts come from for X?
[07:23] <houman_zhu> hi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?
[07:24] <zeus1_> does anyone kno how to fix sound
[07:24] <chumphries> houman_zhu: well the one that matches your kernel?
[07:24] <brenner> Gorth: never ran into jar files, but maybe try double-clicking in nautilus?
[07:24] <brenner> !sound
[07:24] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[07:24] <Gorth> indeed :(
[07:24] <chumphries> jar files are java archive files
[07:24] <chumphries> need java
[07:24] <surfdue> hey there is a problem with skype
[07:24] <surfdue> the package is gone?
[07:25] <brenner> *chuckle*
[07:25] <surfdue> dont chuckle
[07:25] <surfdue> lol
[07:25] <brenner> obviously i've never done java
[07:25] <brenner> surfdue: i like chuckling
[07:25] <houman_zhu> chumphries: but then why do i have two folders :|
[07:26] <protok0l> hey all
[07:26] <houman_zhu> chumphries: one is 686 specific and one doesnt specifiy an architecture in its name, so i am kinda confused
[07:26] <houman_zhu> protok0l: hi there
[07:26] <protok0l> im trying to download sun java with apt, but it says that there is a dependency that it cannot resolve, libasound2
[07:26] <gnomicon> when i open a second gnome session for the same user with "X :1 -query <ip>" from another host, i dont have any icons in nautilus (on the desktop and in the file browser)
[07:27] <zeus1_> no see...i have working sound but its the USB headset thats not working
[07:27] <zeus1_> ubuntu is not detecting my head set...
[07:27] <gnomicon> although it works when i connect twice on a fedora powered gnome..
[07:27] <TestDummy> Uh, er, I'm having a problem. I can't get Gaim to work with MSN at all. I've tried installing it from Synaptic, compiling twice from source (using gnutls and nss), tried to autopackage, and I still cannot use MSN. #gaim says it's their problem, but everything is just fine in Windows. I don't know what to do about it.
[07:28] <houman_zhu> TerminX: what d you mean? so liek you cant sign in ? what erro do you get?
[07:28] <protok0l> TestDummy: MSN goes down all the time, just wait it out
[07:28] <TestDummy> I've tried over three days.
[07:28] <TestDummy> Tells me it's failing to authenticate.
[07:28] <Xappe> have you tested any other IM-client with msn support?
[07:28] <TestDummy> And like I said, no problems in Windows. I'm aware they do have a little problem every now and then.
[07:28] <brenner> protok0l: following the wiki?
[07:29] <TestDummy> Xappe: yes I have.
[07:29] <TestDummy> aMSN doesn't work either.
[07:29] <zeus1_> ubuntu is not  detecting my USB headset...crimsun helped me detect it but when I rebooted it didnt detect any more
[07:30] <Xappe> TestDummy: I've used centericq with msn without any problems
[07:30] <gnomicon> any idea ?..
[07:30] <Alia26> Hi.. Can i get some help? Last night i installed ubuntu from the official cd. I got alot of Trying to fix it, but a reboot is needed. A friend of me told me to run memtest86 to see if there was some problems with my ram. If i'm gonna run memtest86 from the livecd. what do i type on the boot: line?
[07:31] <brenner> zeus1_: wait for crimsun i guess...unfortunately not many other sound gurus in here
[07:31] <TestDummy> Er..
[07:31] <TestDummy> Wrong button
[07:31] <zeus1_> :(
[07:31] <TestDummy> Xappe: Hm..
[07:31] <zeus1_> this makes me very.,..upset
[07:32] <TestDummy> I haven't tried that yet. But I'm not very familiar with that program.
[07:32] <jfosa> I 'installed' the JRE, but nothing yet
[07:32] <thrice`> is preview release considered stable for breezy ?  (well, stable enough)
[07:32] <houman_zhu> hi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?
[07:32] <brenner> Alia26: if you installed, grub should give you a memtest boot option
[07:32] <thrice`> houman_zhu: do you see a difference in those ?
[07:32] <Alia26> brenner: hmm.. so i don't need a livecd?
[07:32] <houman_zhu> thrice: yes, one has the 686 the other doesnt
[07:33] <brenner> Alia26: well, _i_ have a memtest boot option
[07:33] <thrice`> houman_zhu: ok; looks like one's a config for a 686 kernel, the other isn't
[07:33] <Xappe> TestDummy: that's a cli client though...really nice for running in screen on a remote server :)
[07:33] <Alia26> brenner: hoary, right?
[07:33] <brenner> Alia26: not sure how you would run memtest through live anyways
[07:33] <brenner> Alia26: correct
[07:33] <houman_zhu> thrice`: im using 686, why would i have a kernel that i dont need then :|
[07:33] <TestDummy> Xappe: I don't usually use my programs that way.
[07:33] <Maikeru> yay
[07:33] <Maikeru> installerizing linux-686
[07:34] <Maikeru> then my pcmcia card should work
[07:34] <thrice`> houman_zhu: because the default isn't 686
[07:34] <Maikeru> then I can laugh and frollic in the field
[07:34] <brenner> houman_zhu: my guess is 'cos the default is 386
[07:34] <Alia26> brenner: hmm this is odd. how do i operate memtest then?
[07:34] <houman_zhu> thrice`: the default was 386 which i removed, also those two configs are actually different, i mean some options are checked in the 686 that are not checked in the other one, i mean shouldnt they have the same config ?
[07:35] <Xappe> TestDummy: well, it would be my choice locally too nowadays. I'm so tired of all fancy smileys and stuff they bloat the im's with
[07:35] <Alia26> i started the option, but it doesn't do anything?
[07:35] <thrice`> houman_zhu: in some respects, yes; in others, probably not
[07:35] <brenner> Alia26: you chose the boot option in grub?
[07:35] <gnomicon> when i open a second gnome session with "X :1 -query <ip>" from another host, when the same user is already connected locally, i dont have any icons in nautilus (all items use the 'unknown document' icon, on the desktop and file browser)
[07:36] <Alia26> the memtest86 yes
[07:36] <TestDummy> Xappe: I'm not a big fan of the bloat either, but I'm not too fond of CLI programs.
[07:36] <houman_zhu> thrice`: haha, thats vague, ok, do you knwo how to recompile my kernel if i chaneg the config? since i only have the headers? i men can i just change the config file ? sorry im a noob
[07:36] <chumphries> what would make it where i can connect to postfix locally, yet not remotely ?
[07:36] <jfosa> what's the command to check my IP?
[07:36] <chumphries> ifconfig
[07:37] <TestDummy> Gaim used to work, but 1.5.0 doesn't for some reason.
[07:37] <TestDummy> Something get broken?
[07:37] <seife> yo guys
[07:37] <TestDummy> I mean, it starts and runs, but..
[07:37] <seife> how i install blender on ubuntu?
[07:37] <Xappe> TestDummy: you don't run any firewall?
[07:37] <TestDummy> I do.
[07:37] <Alia26> seife: apt-get
[07:37] <TestDummy> I have Firestarter installed.
[07:38] <TestDummy> Should I open up a port or something?
[07:38] <Xappe> TestDummy: have you opened the right ports then?
[07:38] <houman_zhu> Xappe: i run a firewall but firestarted wont come up unless i click on it :| what kidn of firewall needs ot be started by the user? shouldnt it start automatically?
[07:38] <TestDummy> Well, I don't even know what ports to try opening.
[07:38] <Xappe> TestDummy: hang on, ill ceck my shorewall config
[07:38] <brenner> Alia26: what does the config look like in menu.lst?
[07:39] <brenner> ... for memtest
[07:39] <zeus1_> does anyone know why my USB headset is not being detected by linux
[07:39] <theeil> did anyone get winex cvs working?
[07:39] <Maikeru> hrm
[07:39] <a_monkey> for a powerpc processor, is it faster to use -mcpu and -mtune, or just one?
[07:39] <Maikeru> I don't like winex cvs
[07:40] <Maikeru> I was able to get a .deb of cedega
[07:40] <Maikeru> free
[07:40] <a_monkey> and if the latter is true, which one?
[07:40] <theeil> Maikeru: where?
[07:40] <Maikeru> though it is cedega 4.0.something
[07:40] <Maikeru> let me try and find the link
[07:40] <Maikeru> hold up
[07:40] <Xappe> TestDummy: 5190 maybe
[07:40] <Alia26> It have 3 lines, Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 and the same but as recovery mode and then Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+
[07:40] <Maikeru> ergh
[07:40] <Maikeru> wan't me to just dcc?
[07:40] <TestDummy> 5190?
[07:40] <TestDummy> Hm.
[07:41] <TestDummy> Google says that a port AIM uses O_o
[07:42] <Xappe> nd ICQ
[07:42] <Xappe> *and
[07:42] <brenner> Alia26: i have this:  title          Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+ <newline> root           (hd0,2) <newline> kernel         /boot/memtest86+.bin <newline> boot
[07:42] <Belutz> Maikeru: how big is the cedega .deb ?
[07:42] <brenner> Alia26: you might need to change the (hd0,2) line
[07:42] <a_monkey> whoops, forgot to mention that i'm dealing with gcc optimizations
[07:42] <TestDummy> Hm I guess I'll give it a try.
[07:42] <Maikeru> like 7mb
[07:42] <TestDummy> But I can't right now.
[07:42] <TestDummy> Thanks though :)
[07:42] <Alia26> brenner: how?
[07:42] <Maikeru> hmm
[07:42] <Maikeru> I forgot
[07:43] <Maikeru> I have it on FTP
[07:43] <Maikeru> cause the place I got it from was like 2kb/s
[07:43] <Maikeru> lol
[07:43] <Maikeru> so I d/l'd and uploaded
[07:43] <Alia26> it says 76K e820-Std off when i enter memtest86+
[07:43] <Prinkster> Umm, hey, is there a place to go for uber-newbie help?
[07:43] <Maikeru> one sec let me get you a link to my FTP
[07:44] <brenner> Alia26: i thought you get nothing when you ran it?
[07:44] <Alia26> i am trying to run it
[07:44] <Prinkster> Can I ask a really stupid question?  How do I install new software?  ;_;
[07:44] <brenner> !synaptic
[07:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:44] <thrice`> Prinkster: sudo aptitude install <software>
[07:44] <brenner> Prinkster: that's the easiest way
[07:45] <Alia26> brenner: when i installed source i got Trying to fix it, but a reboot is needed
[07:45] <Prinkster> Ummm, I'm a complete newb to Linux...is that a command line or something?
[07:46] <brenner> Prinkster: yes, i suggest you get used to synaptic and then "graduate" to commandline
[07:46] <thrice`> synaptic is all gui
[07:46] <theeil> you can use apt-get CLI
[07:46] <brenner> Alia26: er, and a reboot doesn't fix it?
[07:46] <Prinkster> Okay, thank you.
[07:46] <Alia26> brenner.. no the programs keep crashing on me.
[07:46] <HelmutG> Hi. I'm a Debian user, so could someone check whether there is a package called slate in ubuntu?
[07:47] <thrice`> apt-cache search slate
[07:47] <brenner> Alia26: er, what programs?
[07:47] <HelmutG> thrice`: I know there is slate in debian. ;)
[07:47] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <HelmutG> Tomcat_: thanks.
[07:47] <thrice`> HelmutG: oops...misread the question!  sorry :)
[07:47] <Tomcat_> No package "slate", only "slatec" :o
[07:47] <Alia26> gaim, galeon, gnome, firefox.... and many others.
[07:48] <Alia26> brenner: if i'm gonna reinstall all packages again, how do i do that?
[07:48] <HelmutG> Ok. Can you then tell me what to do to get slate into ubunto as it already is in debian?
[07:48] <Prinkster> Okay, sorry, so I opened up Synaptic Packet Manager, now let's say I want to download and install Azereus, is there a tutorial somewhere I would be able to see how to do that?
[07:49] <thrice`> man, no gaim 1.5.0 in backports ?
[07:49] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: You can *try* to install the debian package with dpkg -i slate*.deb after downloading it...
[07:49] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: But it might not work.
[07:49] <HappyFool> !tell Prinkster about synaptic
[07:49] <brenner> Alia26: if lots of programs are crashing on you... i don't see how reinstalling would fix things..like your friend said, try and do a memtest
[07:49] <zeus1_> anyone kno how to detect USB headset
[07:49] <brenner> *reinstalling them
[07:49] <Seveas> thrice`, not yet :)
[07:49] <Prinkster> Thaniks a ton.
[07:49] <brenner> not the whole system :)
[07:50] <thrice`> Seveas: i thought it was quicker than that
[07:50] <Alia26> brenner: I am trying to do so, but you seem to ignore me. I need help on how to do so.
[07:50] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: Otherwise, you can ask the Ubuntu Universe people to include it in the next release.
[07:50] <HelmutG> Tomcat_: I think you misunderstood me. It's the other way round. I don't have any ubuntu installation. I'm the debian maintainer of that package and I'm asking how to get this package in the official ubuntu distribution.
[07:50] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: Oh alright... then the last thing I said. :)
[07:50] <Tomcat_> HelmutG: #ubuntu-motu is the channel I think.
[07:50] <brenner> Alia26: not ignoring....just a little confused...sorry.   ok, so running memtest gives you a blank screen?
[07:51] <Seveas> thrice`, it's not easy to backport (probably won't be there), because gaim in breezy includes launchpad integration
[07:51] <HelmutG> Tomcat_: Thank you very much. :)
[07:51] <thrice`> Seveas: launchpad ?
[07:52] <Belutz> Maikeru: would you mind send it to me?
[07:52] <Alia26> No it says, Athlon XP (0.13) 1396 Mhz, L1 cache: 128K 8566MB/s, L2 Cache: 256K 2727MB/s, memory: 1024M 592MB/s, Chipset: SiS 745
[07:52] <Maikeru> belutz
[07:52] <Maikeru> pm me so I remember your nick
[07:52] <Maikeru> And I will as soon as i finish workin on the laptop
[07:52] <Maikeru> k?
[07:52] <Maikeru> I gotta get my laptop up on the net
[07:52] <Alia26> and then in the middle of the screen it says: 76K e820-Std Off
[07:52] <Belutz> Maikeru: ok
[07:52] <Maikeru> then I can send it to you and one other
[07:52] <zeus1_> anyone kno how to detect USB headset
[07:52] <windex> yay. fixed auto ident
[07:53] <Maikeru> Now, let's hope seveas comes back on
[07:53] <fivetwentysix> Whats the offical site for cedega?
[07:53] <fivetwentysix> i can't find it
[07:53] <katzor> #ubuntu-laptop
[07:53] <katzor> lol
[07:54] <Belutz> fivetwentysix: www.transgaming.com
[07:54] <Maikeru> hmm
[07:54] <Maikeru> xchat crashed
[07:54] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[07:54] <fivetwentysix> Belutz
[07:54] <PAK_013> how can i install fluxbox on ubuntu 5.04 for PPC ????
[07:55] <Alia26> brenner?
[07:55] <PAK_013> apt-get dont find packages
[07:55] <chumphries> problem with ubuntu and postfix not working for remote connections is that ubuntu main.cf defaults inet_interfaces = loopback-only
[07:55] <zeus1_> anyone kno how to detect USB headset
[07:55] <Xorlev> zeus1_: cat /proc/scsi/scsi gives me my USB devices.
[07:55] <chumphries> so i just had to modify that to have it work of course :)
[07:55] <zeus1_> ok h/o
[07:55] <Prinkster> Okay, here's another newb question, is there a way to play MP3s?
[07:55] <HappyFool> PAK_013: have you added the relevant repositories ? (universe, in this case)
[07:55] <Xorlev> Prinkster: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:55] <Xorlev> Yes there is.
[07:55] <HappyFool> Prinkster: yip; but you need to install specific packages
[07:55] <Prinkster> Okay, thanks.
[07:55] <Xorlev> Just some libraries to install.
[07:55] <HappyFool> !tell Prinkster about restricted
[07:56] <thrice`> is gtk 2.8.X going to drive breezy ?
[07:56] <HappyFool> ubuntuguide.org is generally frowned upon here
[07:56] <zeus1_> Xorlev I got "Attached devices:                                 "       << just all blank
[07:56] <brenner> Alia26: googling...i'm not sure if that's an error, or if so...what it means
[07:56] <Xorlev> Hmm...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> Moo...
[07:56] <Xorlev> 2u
[07:56] <Xorlev> 2
[07:56] <jfosa> the thing I don't like about synaptic is I don't know where things are installed
[07:57] <zeus1_> hmm I got "bash: 2u: command not found"
[07:57] <PAK_013> HappyFool, thanks... i just add it and i will see what hapens...
[07:57] <HappyFool> jfosa: iirc you can right click on the package and find a file list
[07:57] <Xorlev> zeus1_: 2u2 was in response to Dr_Willis :P
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install 2u
[07:57] <jfosa> HappyFool: thanks
[07:58] <Xorlev> jfosa: whereis, dpkg -S package
[07:58] <Xorlev> And apt-get -v moo =)
[07:58] <Xorlev> Err
[07:58] <Xorlev> aptitude
[07:58] <huhmz> I just upgraded to breezy but the fonts got screwed up, what could be the problem?
[07:58] <Xorlev> Then add v's to it.
[07:59] <zeus1_> xorlev how do i fix....ur first command said there were no attached devices
[07:59] <Xorlev> Hmm, lemmie Google for a minute.
[07:59] <zeus1_> k
[07:59] <kung> hi there
[07:59] <brenner> anyone familiar with memtest86?  could you help out Alia26?
[08:00] <Xorlev> zeus1_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926
[08:00] <kung> can anyone tell me, in which file the modules are placed, that ubuntu loads at boot time?
[08:00] <Xorlev> Might help.
[08:00] <Xorlev> kung: Kernel modules?
[08:00] <h0sl3r> When I watch flash cartoons the sound lags behind a bit. How can i fix this?
[08:01] <HappyFool> kung: you maybe want /etc/modules ?
[08:01] <kung> yea, I'm trying to remove the module for my onboard sound card
[08:01] <kung> no, /etc/modules is for additional modules it seems
[08:01] <h0sl3r> kung: just remove it in the bios.
[08:01] <protok0l> is there a proper ubuntu way to set the $PATH
[08:01] <zeus1_> xorlev....I have read that thread over 12 times
[08:01] <HappyFool> kung: yeah; there is a blacklist somewhere
[08:01] <HappyFool> kung: in /etc/hotplug
[08:02] <zeus1_> xorlev...I did the commands he did...but when he did it it detected his headset when i do the command it doesnt detect the headset
[08:02] <kung> I can't disable it in the bios..:/
[08:02] <zeus1_> and its not in device manager either
[08:02] <zeus1_> but the speakers work fine...
[08:02] <kung> thx, I'll try that hotplug thing now
[08:02] <h0sl3r> kung: just remove it in the bios.
[08:02] <Xorlev> Hmm
[08:02] <h0sl3r> oops
[08:02] <h0sl3r> When I watch flash cartoons the sound lags behind a bit. How can i fix this?
[08:02] <Xorlev> Do you have working USB ports? USB support compiled into kernel?
[08:03] <kung> oh, k, now i c...
[08:03] <zeus1_> umm...
[08:03] <kung> ubuntu is different from my previous distros..;)
[08:03] <zeus1_> xorlev...the headset works perfect in windows XP
[08:03] <fevel> hi...can anyone help me to disable my onboard sound card and only use my pci one
[08:03] <kung> you have to tell it what  not to load, not what to load..:)
[08:03] <elvirolo> hi amll
[08:04] <Xorlev> zeus1_: XP is evil, and the USB ports work, but are they working in Linux?
[08:04] <elvirolo> i recebtly upgraded to breezy $,
[08:04] <HappyFool> fevel: is it possible to disable in your bios setup?
[08:04] <zeus1_> Xorlev...lol..umm...idk how do i tell if there working in Linux
[08:04] <kung> fevel try to enter the module in the /etc/hotplug/blacklist file..;)
[08:04] <elvirolo> and X is broken, it says it can't find /dev/input/mice (which doesn't exist, indeed)
[08:04] <Maikeru> argh
[08:04] <Maikeru> seveas left when I needed his help
[08:04] <Maikeru> :<
[08:04] <kung> thats pretty much, what I just asked and what i'm trying now..;)
[08:05] <Jack-Ho> can any one help me?
[08:05] <elvirolo> ideas anyone,
[08:05] <bun2> Hi!
[08:05] <Xorlev> zeus1_: Not quite sure...a bit out of my expertise. My USB ports just worked.
[08:05] <Jack-Ho> how can i register a protocol under ubuntu? so when i click on a "irc://irc.server.com/chan" link in firefox it'll open xchat and connect to that server automaticly?
[08:05] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i'd go read the ubunut-devel mailing lists
[08:05] <bun2> how can i change my resolution from console?
[08:06] <elvirolo> HappyFool, well i did have a look there ...
[08:06] <zeus1_> xorlev...
[08:06] <bun2> someone?
[08:06] <zeus1_> xorlev..my keyboard is usb and it works fine in linux
[08:06] <HappyFool> elvirolo: ppl here were talking about modprobing mouse drivers or something last night (here on #ubuntu), but i don't remember the details
[08:06] <JosephB> How do I enable the ftpd, and is there a good frontend for configing it?
[08:06] <zeus1_> So I KNOW theres not a problem with the usb ports
[08:06] <elvirolo> HappyFool, never mind, thx anyway :)
[08:06] <Jack-Ho> any one?
[08:06] <fevel> HappyFool, I never tried
[08:06] <HappyFool> Jack-Ho: that's probably a firefox thing
[08:06] <brenner> bun2: if you're running console, why would you need to change res? :-/
[08:07] <fevel> HappyFool, ill see if I can
[08:07] <Prinkster> Awesome, I got the MP3 player to work.  Thanks guys!
[08:07] <Jack-Ho> and, how can i fix that?
[08:07] <bun2> brenner: cause I can't change it
[08:07] <HappyFool> fevel: that would be the easiest solution; otherwise it may be possible to stop the driver from being loaded
[08:07] <slibs> hi, how can i watch quicktime files?
[08:07] <dalamar> i wish breezy would come out sooner, there's alot of programs now that new versions are requiring a newer version of libc and I'm not going to run breezy instable heh
[08:07] <brenner> bun2: in your desktop environ you mean?
[08:07] <fevel> HappyFool, I can choose the alsa driver for xmms and use my pci, but not for gaming
[08:08] <bun2> brenner: yeah. I can't 'drop' dropdown menu
[08:08] <brenner> ubotu: tell slibs about restricted
[08:08] <Jack-Ho> any one? :\
[08:08] <slibs> brenner, won't help
[08:08] <brenner> ubotu: tell bun2 about fixres
[08:08] <brenner> slibs: you installed w32codecs?
[08:08] <pawelek> from where (repository) i can download jdk
[08:08] <slibs> brenner, yes there's only problem with sound
[08:08] <pawelek> and j2re?
[08:08] <brenner> slibs: install totem-xine
[08:08] <brenner> !java
[08:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:08] <slibs> i have that too
[08:09] <brenner> pawelek: ^^
[08:09] <brenner> slibs: ok, what sound probs?
[08:09] <zetor> hi all!
[08:09] <pawelek> branner?
[08:09] <HappyFool> Jack-Ho: sorry, i can't see anything obvious
[08:09] <brenner> pawelek: see ubotu's link
[08:09] <pete-h> hi, is split-screen (laptop) support known to be broken in Hoary?
[08:09] <zeus1_> guys what the heezee my beezee in the sheezie ....... its not working rite
[08:09] <Jack-Ho> :)
[08:09] <Jack-Ho> :(
[08:09] <Jack-Ho> and i have aneder prablome
[08:09] <pawelek> brenner: but I don't know any repositorium where I can find it
[08:09] <pawelek> repository*
[08:09] <Jack-Ho> iv got an usb keybord
[08:10] <brenner> pawelek: see ubotu's link
[08:10] <Jack-Ho> and in the grub menu
[08:10] <Jack-Ho> i can`t choose, the keybord dosnt work
[08:10] <pawelek> brenner: but where?
[08:10] <slibs> brenner, aha!, totem did work, the sound was just disabled by default
[08:11] <slibs> but i'd like to get the sound work in the vlc
[08:11] <brenner> pawelek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:11] <gnomicon> i cant open multiple gnome sessions with the same user without losing the icons in nautilus desktop and file browser, anyone knows how to make it work normally, eg like in fedora core 3 ?..
[08:11] <dalamar> pawelek, I'd use the info at the bottom of the wiki about installing it from Sun, I believe the java package has been taken out of the repos
[08:11] <zeus1_> MY USB HEADSET ISNT being deteCTED......how do u fix
[08:11] <HappyFool> Jack-Ho: hmm. look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-276.html  -- i'd look for a bios setting to make your usb keyboard look like a normal one
[08:11] <pawelek> yhm
[08:11] <pawelek> i see
[08:11] <pawelek> thx
[08:12] <zeus1_> but my usb keyboard works fine
[08:12] <thedevilsjester> OK I am trying to compile my OpenGL app on a new installation of ubuntu, but I get the following error
[08:12] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: present but cannot be compiled
[08:12] <zeus1_> and the headset dose not
[08:12] <thedevilsjester> has anyone encountered this and know how to fix it?
[08:12] <Maikeru> hey
[08:12] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: well, one doesn't usually compile .h files
[08:12] <Jack-Ho> in the windows "grub" the keybord work fine :\
[08:12] <thedevilsjester> thats from configure
[08:13] <thedevilsjester> configure fails there
[08:13] <joe_alf> i have a problem on my broadband connection i've run pppoeconf just fine and ifconfig tell's that i am connected but i can't browse the internet and even ping doesn't seems to work.
[08:13] <thedevilsjester> checking X11/extensions/XShm.h usability... no
[08:13] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: hmm. have you installed the x development libraries?
[08:13] <stoeptegel> how do i get writepermission on my /media/ext3.stuff partition?
[08:14] <thedevilsjester> checking X11/extensions/XShm.h usability... no
[08:14] <thedevilsjester> checking X11/extensions/XShm.h presence... yes
[08:14] <thedevilsjester> its there
[08:14] <Maikeru> I am using 2.6.10-5-686, Ubuntu Hoary, and ndiswrapper. I have a DWL-650 Revision P PCMCIA (Cardbus) card.
[08:14] <thedevilsjester> just not useable, I have installed every dev package I can think of
[08:14] <Maikeru> I typed ndiswrapper -i wlan/NETPRISM.inf
[08:14] <Maikeru> I then type modprobe ndiswrapper and to verify dmesg |grep ndis
[08:14] <PAK_013> i have one more question... is opera avaible for PPC and where I can download it ?
[08:14] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: ok, and what does 'ls -l /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h' say?
[08:14] <Maikeru> dmesg outputs: ndiswrapper version 1.0rc2 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=no)
[08:14] <perseo_pi> Hi, I have installed, I think it, xine-lib and xine-ui with "sudo aptitude install gxin". And now, How can I execute the program?
[08:14] <Xorlev> Is it just my internet, or is CPAN not resolving?
[08:15] <HappyFool> PAK_013: look on opera's site
[08:15] <bun2> okk ... i still can't drop down "resolution" menu
[08:15] <bun2> :(
[08:15] <Maikeru> ndiswrapper (load_devices:479): Each driver can only support a single busstype
[08:15] <slibs> stoeptegel, with chmod
[08:15] <Maikeru> ndiswrapper: driver netprism (D-Link,07/17/2003,3.0.8) added
[08:15] <Maikeru> that's it
[08:15] <thedevilsjester>  ls -l /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h
[08:15] <thedevilsjester> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 4285 2005-04-05 11:08 /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h
[08:15] <thedevilsjester> its not a symlink
[08:15] <Maikeru> then I type iwconfig and it shows lo and sit0 with no devices found
[08:15] <Maikeru> I tried iwconfig wlan0 and it couldn't find it
[08:16] <Maikeru> I tried iwconfig wlan0 essid <MyAPName> and it didn't work
[08:16] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: what app is it? maybe you can do a apt-get build-dep
[08:16] <Maikeru> I also tried ifconfig wlan0
[08:16] <meeep> how do i mount a SATA hd? it cant find sda5 when ubuntu boots, but i can mount it later, in terminal, wtf to
[08:16] <thedevilsjester> its my app
[08:16] <thedevilsjester> so no, I cant :P
[08:16] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: ah, right
[08:16] <Maikeru> Now, I don't think it understands that my PCMCIA is inserted or something
[08:16] <brenner> PAK_013: their official site might be a better place to query
[08:16] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: but then you have control of the ./configure
[08:16] <Maikeru> The light for activity on the card is green, but all that tells me is that it's getting power
[08:16] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: so what are you testing for?
[08:16] <Maikeru> Other than that I don't know, my only guess is that it has no clue I have a PCMCIA card there
[08:16] <Maikeru> So, any ideas? :)
[08:16] <masoft> I our office, we have just a Microsoft ISA in server as Proxy (not socks) , and we use it for websites. now I wanna know is it possible to have VNC access with a http proxy ?
[08:17] <thedevilsjester> well this is a 3rd party lib to my app,
[08:17] <thedevilsjester> and I cant get precompiled versions
[08:17] <huhmz> After upgrading to breezy my fonts in firefox and thunderbird have become "invisible", others have the same problem (i googled) but couldn't find any answers, alsa ubuntuforums.org seems down. Anyone know what the problem could be?
[08:17] <thedevilsjester> I need specific config options
[08:17] <thedevilsjester> fox 1.5.8 gui lib
[08:17] <kvidell> huhmz: Well of course you couldn't find any answers. The fonts are invisible ^.^! I am helping.
[08:17] <thedevilsjester> works perfectly in my gentoo box, but wont even configure on this one
[08:17] <emile> is the ubuntu kismet wiki still valid for ubuntu install with all updates applied?
[08:17] <ompaul> !audigy
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[08:18] <thedevilsjester> not many useable results via google either
[08:18] <ompaul> any ideas on what to do with this:: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default
[08:18] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: i'd try the fox dev lists
[08:18] <thedevilsjester> its not a fox issue
[08:18] <fraggsta> Here's a puzzling question;  I have a friend who just installed Ubuntu.  Both of our machines have SB Live! cards.  They come up EXACTLY the same in lspci.  When he plays a song in AmaroK, the sound becomes "muffled" and "muted" (I'm going on his description hear, I can't hear his speakers over the internet)
[08:18] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: that configure message is a bit obscure
[08:19] <fraggsta> So why is his machine doing that?
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: present but cannot be compiled
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: see the Autoconf documentation
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> configure: WARNING: X11/extensions/XShm.h: in the future, the compiler will take precedence
[08:19] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: or look in the configure.in or configure file to see how it's doing the test
[08:19] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: no, don't paste here
[08:19] <Belutz> !paste
[08:19] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:19] <dalamar> use pastebin!
[08:19] <huhmz>    /topiic
[08:19] <zeus1_> umm
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> its not large amounts of text
[08:19] <thedevilsjester> just 6 lines
[08:19] <zeus1_> how do u detect USB headset
[08:19] <dalamar> thats alot
[08:19] <tommi^> Hi. How come I can read other user's directories?
[08:20] <meeep> how do i mount a SATA hd? it cant find sda5 when ubuntu boots, but i can mount it later, in terminal, wtf to
[08:20] <Maikeru> grm
[08:20] <zeus1_> I cant detect usb headset..but usb keyboard works fine
[08:20] <ompaul> thedevilsjester, pastebin is good for you, don't argue or one of the ops will kick you :-) I'm not an op just letting you konw
[08:20] <pawelek> and one more qustion where I can find in repos jd?
[08:20] <pawelek> jdk
[08:20] <PAK_013> i can't leave this chanel withouth saying that UBUNTU IS GREAT! i love it! :)
[08:20] <PAK_013> bye 2 all! cya soon...
[08:20] <zeus1_> I cant detect usb headset..but usb keyboard works fine anyone help
[08:20] <ompaul> PAK_013, you could but hey it is great to read that kind of thing now and again - put it in your sign off message :)
[08:21] <HappyFool> !java
[08:21] <brenner> zeus1_: repeating yourself every 10 seconds isn't helping
[08:21] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:21] <dalamar> pawelek, I just searched and the jre package is in the repos, you must not have one working .. I would follow the wiki exactly, including setting up the repos
[08:21] <thedevilsjester> So no one encounter this?  What package installs the XShm.h file? maybe I can redownload it?
[08:21] <candlelight> pawelek, search for "java" at ubuntu wiki.
[08:21] <brenner> thedevilsjester: ubuntu.packages.com
[08:21] <pawelek> jre im downloading
[08:21] <zeus1_> of course its not...im not geting any help on the forums and ppl just give up on me in here
[08:21] <brenner> The_Vox: then use the file search feature
[08:21] <Maikeru> zeus: the point is saying:
[08:21] <joe_alf> need help please. regarding broadband internet conection.
[08:21] <Maikeru> <my problem>
[08:21] <Maikeru> (10 seconds later) <my problem>
[08:21] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: hmm. "dpkg: /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h not found."  -- odd
[08:22] <Maikeru> over and over is just gonna piss everyone off and then you will definately be ignored and not receive an answer :)
[08:22] <tommi^> really, is it really so that I can read other user's directories in ubuntu by default or have I done something stupid? Isn't that like very insecure?
[08:22] <zeus1_> cuz no one helps me out...and ive been at this for weeks
[08:22] <thedevilsjester> brenner,  that site doesnt exist..
[08:22] <Maikeru> Well I've been at this for months
[08:22] <brenner> sorry....packages.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <Maikeru> So there
[08:22] <zeus1_> and i bumped my forum post into next tuesday with 19 bumps and still no help
[08:22] <dalamar> tommi^, your main user is a superuser, it should be able to read anything and write any with a sudo command
[08:23] <ompaul> zeus1_, maybe get a new headset - or try breezy - or pay someone who can code to fix it
[08:23] <ompaul> zeus1_, and you iknow that breezy is unstable :)
[08:23] <Maikeru> Anyone know where I can possibly contact Seveas?
[08:23] <Xanthus7> Hey I blew out grub and I need to reinstall it all I can get into is my windows xp
[08:23] <HappyFool> !recover
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:23] <ompaul> Maikeru, what do you want him for?
[08:23] <zeus1_> new headset? this is state of the art thats not gonna happen....try breezy..its unstable and why would i pay someone to fix it for me
[08:23] <Maikeru> ompaul, he knew what he was talkin about when it came to my wireless card
[08:24] <Maikeru> and was helping me
[08:24] <Maikeru> and I need his help
[08:24] <Maikeru> it refuses to work
[08:24] <HappyFool> zeus1_: you would pay someone because it is worth something to you ;)
[08:24] <Maikeru> I did as he said and it still hates me
[08:24] <Maikeru> heh
[08:24] <tommi^> dalamar, nou.. If I su [otheruser]  I can still read other users' directories and files. Home directories seem to be 755
[08:24] <zeus1_> thats going a bit overboard happyfool, to have to pay someone cause im not getting help when the answer is out there ive been searching hard for it
[08:24] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, what command did you type to get the no found result?
[08:24] <ompaul> Maikeru, well he is not logged in atm when he is, he is obvious :)
[08:24] <brenner> zeus1_: have you tried repeating crimsun's fix?
[08:24] <tommi^> dalamar, all directories under /home are drwxr-xr-x
[08:24] <zeus1_> IDR his fix...
[08:24] <Xanthus7> Maikeru don't tell me it is Qwest wireless you are using
[08:25] <zeus1_> it happened a whiel back
[08:25] <Maikeru> D-Link DWL-650
[08:25] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: dpkg -S /usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h
[08:25] <zeus1_> so i cant remeber the commands
[08:25] <brenner> IDR?
[08:25] <Maikeru> Revision P
[08:25] <Maikeru> Bloody hell
[08:25] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: err, that may be wrong
[08:25] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: the filename, i mean
[08:25] <Maikeru> zeus: I worked on my belkin f5d6050 for months
[08:25] <Maikeru> and couldn't find shit
[08:25] <zeus1_> whats that
[08:25] <stoeptegel> slibs: chmodding a partition? :s
[08:25] <Maikeru> I went back to google months later, tried a search (different from what I had done)
[08:25] <Maikeru> and BAM! It worked
[08:25] <Maikeru> Give it some time and don't complain over a couple weeks
[08:25] <Xanthus7> Cool I switching to qwest dsl in a couple months and they are givinb a wireless modem/router
[08:25] <Maikeru> I had to give up on FreeBSD and Linux because of that
[08:25] <thedevilsjester> nope its the right name, and even though the file is there it still says not found..
[08:26] <zeus1_> but the sound is working in the speakers...and my usb keyboard is working
[08:26] <Maikeru> BTW: It's a wireless adapter
[08:26] <ompaul> zeus1_, this is not harsh this is the real world, your other option is to contact the makers of the hardware and say where is my Linux driver you ... nice people :)
[08:26] <zeus1_> ya rite...like there just gonna make a linux driver because of one angry customer...lol
[08:26] <Maikeru> Maybe you're not the only one?
[08:26] <Maikeru> You ever thought of that?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> "I am looking to buy new hardware from your company, what devices do you have that support linux"
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:26] <Maikeru> Maybe there's a lot of other people
[08:27] <zeus1_> but crimsun helped me get it working....and then when i rebooted it stopepd working agaijn
[08:27] <Maikeru> Maybe they're working on one
[08:27] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: yeah, i'm not sure what that means. very odd, because i certainly didn't put those files there myself
[08:27] <Maikeru> You never know
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Then they have to admit No, and the fact they are losing a sale is their fault.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:27] <zeus1_> the thing is it slipped out of my grasp
[08:27] <zeus1_> when i had the problem fixed
[08:27] <zeus1_> :(
[08:27] <Xanthus7> So can some help me here please I blew out grub and need to reinstall it so I can get back into ubuntu
[08:27] <ompaul> zeus1_, I have given you a few solutions your call  the great thing about non closed hardware and software is that you dont get those kind of problems :)
[08:27] <thedevilsjester> Yeah I think it is the root cause of the configure error...something is off
[08:27] <Maikeru> !recover
[08:27] <ubotu> hmm... recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:27] <HappyFool> !tell Xanthus7 about recover
[08:27] <Maikeru> ergh
[08:27] <huhmz> Anyone running breezy that can tell me all their FontPath's from xorg.conf?
[08:27] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, this is a fresh ubuntu install so I KNOW I didnt put those there
[08:28] <thedevilsjester> I even just re apt'ed the package that contains the file
[08:28] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: i'm trying packages.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> huhmz,  i was thinkign it defaulted to like "localhost:7100" or somthing in this day and age of font-servers.
[08:28] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: it's libxext-dev
[08:28] <thedevilsjester> yeah I re installed that
[08:28] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, no difference
[08:28] <huhmz> dr_willis: but there are static ones as well
[08:28] <huhmz> i really need the paths
[08:29] <huhmz> and they aren't the same as for hoary
[08:29] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: ah, try this: dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h
[08:29] <meeep> !ubuntu
[08:29] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> huhmz,  Hmm.. odd..  wonder why they would move them.
[08:29] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: that doesn't help you though, sorry
[08:29] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, I get the same results as you
[08:29] <bun2> i can't change my resolution
[08:30] <bun2> i'm sorry for writting this again
[08:30] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, 'not found' even though I can open it in nano just fine
[08:30] <bun2> but maybe someone new is here
[08:30] <bun2> so,
[08:30] <huhmz> Could someone running breezy please pm me all the FontPath lines from xorg.conf please?
[08:30] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: no, it's a symlink -- the X11 directory is probably a link
[08:30] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: that's kind of irrelevant to your problem though
[08:30] <bun2> when i go to preferences> resolution
[08:30] <stoeptegel> slibs: the file /media/ext3.stuff already is 755
[08:31] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: is it possible that this lib needs a newer X ?
[08:31] <fivetwentysix> Does Ubuntu-64 support 32 bit applications?
[08:31] <bun2> i can see only 640x480
[08:31] <bun2> i can't change it
[08:31] <bun2> someone knows why?
[08:31] <thedevilsjester> I sincerly doubt it, I have compiled this for a couple years on all sorts of versions
[08:31] <mjr> fivetwentysix, not very transparently
[08:31] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: same version of fox?
[08:32] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: how big is the fox download?
[08:32] <thedevilsjester> AFAIK they didnt change the opengl in the latest versions
[08:32] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, a couple megs
[08:32] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: url?
[08:32] <meeep> how do i make my SATA hd mount in startup? it wont do, it says sda5 cant be found? :/
[08:32] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, http://www.fox-toolkit.org/ftp/fox-1.5.8.tar.gz
[08:33] <thedevilsjester> my config line is
[08:33] <thedevilsjester> ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-jpeg --disable-png --disable-tiff --disable-bz2lib  --disable-cups --without-xrandr --enable-release --enable-shared=no --enable-static=yes --with-opengl --without-xcursor
[08:33] <candlelight> bun2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[08:33] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: hm. i'm on dial-up -- you mind waiting about 20 minutes?
[08:33] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, I have plenty of time, yes, I appreciate the help
[08:33] <fivetwentysix> mjr, I'm trying to install Cedega, could you point me in the direction to install this on 64bit Ubuntu?
[08:33] <HappyFool> i should have the deps; i compiled an opengl lib not too long ago
[08:34] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, install Point2Play small deb
[08:34] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, then use Point2PLay and your login to install cedega
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> Yes I tried that
[08:34] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, you have to force architexture though
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> Gave me something like this :  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> How can I do that?
[08:35] <thedevilsjester> yeah simply --force-architecture (spelling?)
[08:35] <protok0l> i cannot add a a directory to my $PATH, i tried editing /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile but it never applied, even after logout/login and reboot
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> cedega on 64bit - needs some work - last i looked into it.
[08:35] <fivetwentysix> Ok thanks let me try that
[08:35] <thedevilsjester> as long as its the small package, it will work
[08:35] <HappyFool> protok0l: do you need this for a command-line or gui app?
[08:35] <thedevilsjester> otherwise you could break your system because the big one installs 32bit deps
[08:36] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix,  sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture /home/akuma/Desktop/point2play-small_2.0.3_i386.deb
[08:36] <HappyFool> protok0l: try setting the path in ~/.gnomerc -- that should work for both, assuming you're using gnome
[08:36] <thedevilsjester> of course use your paths :p
[08:36] <HappyFool> protok0l: you (obviously?) need to export it
[08:37] <zeus1_> any1 no how to detect USB headset
[08:37] <protok0l> HappyFool: it is in /etc/profile just fine, but it doesnt export
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> OK
[08:37] <Drajka> I'm still having trouble with DVD functionability....
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> This is what happens once I do that
[08:37] <Drajka> ] I got mpeg and sound to work
[08:37] <protok0l> if ii run "source /etc/profile" it works
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> It ends here : Unpacking replacement point2play-small ...
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> Setting up point2play-small (2.0.3) ...
[08:37] <Drajka> but still no dvd... i'm pretty sure i got libdvdcss installed properly, but I don't know.
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> Then nothing happens
[08:38] <Belutz> Drajka: libdvdcss2 ?
[08:38] <thedevilsjester> type Point2Play (case sensitive)
[08:38] <Drajka> o.O I don't have that
[08:38] <Belutz> Drajka: you must installed that
[08:38] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, I just did that a couple hours ago on this very system, so I know it works :P
[08:38] <Drajka> i must have? or I must
[08:39] <Belutz> Drajka: you must
[08:39] <Drajka> ok
[08:39] <fivetwentysix> It does work, it unpacks the stuff, but when it says setting up, all of a sudden nothing happens
[08:39] <Belutz> Drajka: you must have it installed, sorry for my bad english :D
[08:39] <Drajka> :)
[08:39] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, did you try and run point2play now?
[08:39] <Drajka> I installed libdvdcss.. but I have to install libdvdcss2 as well?
[08:39] <lJlolel> how do i draw a straight line in the gimp?
[08:39] <fivetwentysix> How can I do that?
[08:39] <thedevilsjester> just type Point2Play in your console
[08:40] <HappyFool> protok0l: /etc/profile is not sourced in the gdm login process
[08:40] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix,  its case sensitive
[08:40] <fivetwentysix> :-)
[08:40] <HappyFool> protok0l: nor for non-login bash shells (non-login is the standard for gnome-terminal)
[08:40] <fivetwentysix> Thank you so much!
[08:40] <Belutz> Drajka: you can uninstall the libdvdcss
[08:40] <thedevilsjester> fivetwentysix, no problem
[08:40] <Drajka> to be honest, I don't know how. :] 
[08:40] <HappyFool> protok0l: try ~/.gnomerc; add export PATH=/my/own/path:$PATH and logout and login and try it
[08:41] <elvirolo> could anyone tell me what the mouse device file is in breezy ?
[08:41] <Belutz> Drajka: you have to enable the universe/multiverse repo, do you know how to do that?
[08:41] <MAPD> hey
[08:41] <Drajka> I did, i have 15229 packs in synap
[08:41] <MAPD> i got dual boot windows and ubuntu
[08:41] <zeus1_> any1 no how to detect USB headset cause i cant here any sound
[08:41] <Drajka> however --
[08:41] <MAPD> how do i remove grub to remove linux after?
[08:41] <thedevilsjester> HappyFool, I have to be afk for a few mins, PM me when you get that downloaded will you?
[08:41] <Drajka> mapd
[08:41] <MAPD> pls
[08:41] <Drajka> I can actually help you with this
[08:41] <Drajka> lol
[08:41] <HappyFool> thedevilsjester: will do
[08:42] <lJlolel> does anybody know how to draw a straight line in the gimp (its flippin impossible)
[08:42] <Drajka> Even though I'm a linux nub..
[08:42] <Drajka> I'm a windows master.
[08:42] <Drajka> :s
[08:42] <MAPD> fdisk /mbr
[08:42] <elvirolo>                            lJlolel
[08:42] <seife> I'm a windows master too. ;o
[08:42] <MAPD> inst work
[08:42] <Belutz> !tell Drajka about sources
[08:42] <MAPD> ing
[08:42] <elvirolo> whoopis
[08:42] <MAPD> :P
[08:42] <redeeman> hello
[08:42] <redeeman> to enable nvidia acceleration in ubuntu, one needs to run a program called something like nvidia-opengl-config enable, what about ati?
[08:42] <kandoora> when i installed the hsfmodem driver, booting takes longer, it gets stuck @ configuring network interface, any idea why?
[08:43] <HappyFool> lJlolel: maybe use inkscape instead? or dia? I think gimp also has some rudimentary line drawing thing
[08:43] <elvirolo> lJlolel, yes
[08:43] <elvirolo> lJlolel, you hold shift while using the "pen" tool
[08:43] <lJlolel> elvirolo, thanks, how do you do a rectangle?
[08:43] <HappyFool> oh, ok. i'm not a gimp user ;)
[08:44] <fevel> Did any gamer install "last man standing" on their ubuntu
[08:44] <thedevilsjester> lJlolel, use KPaint its much easier
[08:44] <fevel> I got ET working
[08:44] <thedevilsjester> lJlolel, its like MSPaint with transparencies
[08:44] <elvirolo> lJlolel, i'm afraid you need to activate the rectangular selection, fill in a coulour, reduce the selection by a few pixels, and fill in white
[08:45] <bun2> still nobody can't tell me how to change my low resolution to high ?
[08:45] <lJlolel> elvirolo, lol cool
[08:45] <elvirolo> lol
[08:45] <kvidell> lJlolel: It's the same as Photoshop nearly.
[08:45] <kvidell> (Gimp is)
[08:45] <kvidell> the shift trick is how you do it in photoshop as well, etc.
[08:45] <MAPD> gimp rule
[08:45] <MAPD> s
[08:45] <MAPD> .P
[08:45] <elvirolo> bun2, you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <aRAchNiON> lJlolel: you can also make a rectangular selection
[08:45] <aRAchNiON> convert it to a path
[08:45] <aRAchNiON> and draw a line over that path
[08:45] <kvidell> I personally hate gimp, but if I don't have an OSX box available, I use it.
[08:45] <elvirolo> so does anyoneuse breezy here ?
[08:46] <kvidell> or, make a rectangular selection and use the "Stroke" tool
[08:46] <MAPD> kvidell which program you run
[08:46] <MAPD> on your OSX box?
[08:46] <fivetwentysix> Anyone know how to get my headset working which is connected through my usb soundcard?
[08:46] <kvidell> PPhsop
[08:46] <kvidell> Photoshop*
[08:46] <Drajka> Belutz, I've already looked at that ;/
[08:46] <kvidell> sorry, ssh is getting sticky... *wonders where the bandwidth went*
[08:47] <MAPD> i use photoshop on windows
[08:47] <Belutz> Drajka: using synaptics, try to search libdvdcss2
[08:47] <MAPD> kvidell run OSX on x86
[08:47] <kvidell> MAPD: No, I'm okay :-P
[08:47] <levander> Can you play DRM protected WMA files on Linux?
[08:47] <kvidell> I prefer to run it on optimised hardware.
[08:48] <kvidell> besides, I'd have to dual boot or lose my *nix box.
[08:48] <kvidell> and I <3 my Debian boxes so :-P
[08:48] <Maikeru> be back later
[08:48] <Maikeru> gonna install a different linux distro
[08:49] <Riskbreaker9> hello
[08:49] <Maikeru> got 200gigs here and it can't -all- go to ubuntu :)
[08:49] <Drajka> hai n00bz
[08:49] <Drajka> hmm
[08:49] <kvidell> hi!
[08:49] <Drajka> How do I access the sources.list file
[08:49] <Drajka> :x
[08:50] <Drajka> So I can replace the repositories using copy paste of an entire list
[08:50] <kvidell> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <penguin42> anyone running Ubuntu with mainly gnome but also with KDE installed can do a test for me?
[08:50] <Riskbreaker9> I have a question... when I try to change my screen resolution, ubuntu tells me I need to upgrade my X server to version 4.3, and that I don't have something called XRandR (rotate and resize)... can someone help me with this?
[08:50] <Xorlev> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <Belutz> Drajka: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <pepsi> how can i tell if a linux install is ubuntu by looking at the filesystem?
[08:51] <penguin42> pepsi: Have a look at /etc/issue
[08:51] <BlueEagle> pepsi: /etc/issue perhaps?
[08:51] <pepsi> i see
[08:51] <Xorlev> You can tell its a Linux install, but not really the distro.
[08:52] <BlueEagle> Where can I find a list of packages that are availible for installation. Thinks like eggdrop and aterm
[08:52] <kandoora> thrush: r u there
[08:52] <Riskbreaker9> hello?
[08:52] <pepsi> /etc/issue says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" Development Branch
[08:52] <HappyFool> BlueEagle: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <Drajka> which archetecure is mine... if I'm using amd64
[08:52] <HappyFool> BlueEagle: apt-cache and synaptic are good too, if you've enabled all the repositories
[08:52] <Drajka> i686?
[08:52] <HappyFool> ello Riskbreaker9
[08:52] <Xorlev> x64 I think
[08:53] <Xorlev> i686 is still 32bit.
[08:53] <penguin42> pepsi: pepsi: Something like   grep -qi  ubuntu /etc/issue && echo "You have ubuntu"
[08:53] <Drajka> I might be having a problem installing libdvdcss...
[08:54] <BlueEagle> When I try to: apt-get install eggdrop I get E: Couldn't find package eggdrop
[08:54] <bun2> i tried to change xorg.conf but my resolution is still LOW
[08:54] <Drajka> So.. I'll paste the install log in the pastebin and see what you guys think, if it dosen't work.
[08:54] <Riskbreaker9> can you help me?
[08:54] <bun2> i'm going to kill myselff
[08:54] <bun2> please help me
[08:54] <Xorlev> Riskbreaker9: Whats the problem?
[08:54] <penguin42> anyone running a konsole ? Tell me if logname works for them
[08:55] <tommi^> I remember debian had something called "non world readable home directories" or such question. I still haven't gotten an answer why new user's directories are drwxr-xr-x so that everybody can read'em. Thanks for your time. :)
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> hell all
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> i can't read *.chm file in ubuntu
[08:55] <Xorlev> penguin42: $ logname
[08:55] <Xorlev> logname: no login name
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> how i need to do
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> pls help me
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> >:D<
[08:55] <Xorlev> Cyber-shot: Google helps.
[08:55] <penguin42> Xorlev: Thanks - are you running a full KDE setup or just a konsole running under gnome?
[08:55] <Xorlev> Full KDE
[08:55] <penguin42> Cyber-shot: What is chm?
[08:55] <Riskbreaker9> I have a question... when I try to change my screen resolution, ubuntu tells me I need to upgrade my X server to version 4.3, and that I don't have something called XRandR (rotate and resize)... can someone help me with this?
[08:55] <Cyber-shot> penguin42,
[08:56] <Davey> CHM is the Windows Help File format
[08:56] <penguin42> Xorlev: Thnaks, ok I was running konsole under mostly gnome, so it is not just that which does it  - hmm I'll ask the #kde guys
[08:56] <Cyber-shot> chm file is like help file in software
[08:56] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, you can still change your res but it has to be before X starts
[08:56] <Riskbreaker9> oh, how would i do that?
[08:56] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, you need Resize and Rotate (RandR) to do it dyanmically (without virtual screens)
[08:56] <fivetwentysix> Anyone know how to get my headset working which is connected through my usb soundcard?
[08:56] <penguin42> Cyber-shot: There is a package called xchm
[08:56] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:57] <penguin42> Cyber-shot: If you have the 'universe' enabled then you should be able to install it
[08:57] <Riskbreaker9> can i just do that right now in a terminal window?
[08:57] <Drajka> k
[08:57] <Xorlev> Why would anyone want to defile their system with a Windows help file?
[08:57] <Drajka> when installing something
[08:57] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9,
[08:57] <thedevilsjester> nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:57] <Drajka> shoul di use tar.gz or tar.bz2
[08:57] <Davey> Cyber-shot, there is also http://gnochm.sourceforge.net/
[08:58] <bun2> new people are here so i'm going to ask again
[08:58] <Xorlev> tar.bz2 produces smaller archives than tar.gz
[08:58] <Xorlev> They're the same files.
[08:58] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, look towards the bottom where it list resolutions
[08:58] <bun2> i can't change my screen resolution
[08:58] <bun2> it's low
[08:58] <MAPD> gtg
[08:58] <MAPD> bye thanks
[08:58] <thedevilsjester> bun2, tried your xorg.conf?
[08:58] <penguin42> Xorlev: Only down side is bz2 tends to take longer to compress
[08:58] <thedevilsjester> bun2, nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <bun2> in "change res" dropdown menu i can see only 640x480
[08:58] <thedevilsjester> bun2, you need to list the res
[08:59] <thedevilsjester> bun2, in your xorg.conf file
[08:59] <Riskbreaker9> yup, I see a bunch of them listed.
[08:59] <BlueEagle> ahh.. apt-get update seems to have fixed it. :)
[08:59] <Xorlev> True penguin42, but when downloading already created files, I go for tar.bz2.
[08:59] <kandoora> is inkscape prepacked in ubuntu?
[08:59] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, what I have done in the past is remove all the res'es that I dont want to use, forcing it to use the only one left
[08:59] <bun2> thedevilsjester: i tried with xorg.conf... how to list the res?
[08:59] <meeep> so here i am again, in desperate need of getting my ATi graphics going. im just too newbish to understand howto? any help?
[08:59] <Xorlev> When downloading the PHP source, its a difference of 1mb.
[09:00] <Xorlev> So the gain is measurable.
[09:00] <thedevilsjester> bun2, towards the bottom it should list a bunch of resolutions
[09:00] <Xorlev> meeep: Been to http://www.ubuntuforums.org?
[09:00] <Xorlev> Theres a nice guide on installing ATi propritetary drivers.
[09:00] <bun2> thedevilsjester: so?
[09:00] <Rayen> just wondering why everyone always use 'nano -w file' instead of 'nano file' ?
[09:00] <Xorlev> I use nano file o.o
[09:01] <Drajka> ...
[09:01] <thedevilsjester> bun2, remove all but the res(es) you want
[09:01] <Drajka> Totem still is bitching.
[09:01] <penguin42> kandoora: Yes
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> hello, is anyone familiar with firestorm...
[09:01] <Drajka> Every time I try to play a dvd..
[09:01] <Drajka> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[09:01] <thedevilsjester> bun2, if there isnt many, add some to the list
[09:01] <Xorlev> Rayen: -w is nowrap
[09:01] <kandoora> how do i install it
[09:01] <Drajka> I just installed libdvdcss.
[09:01] <kandoora> penguin42: how do i install it
[09:01] <thedevilsjester> bun2, i.e.   Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:01] <bun2> thedevilsjester: i tried that and i logged off but it's still the same
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> error while loading shared libraries: libfirestorm.so.0
[09:02] <meeep> !ati
[09:02] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:02] <Rayen> Xorlev what does 'nowrap' mean?
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:02] <penguin42> kandoora: The same way you install anything else - from the command line     sudo apt-get install inkscape    or use the package manager from System->Administration->Package Manager if you prefer gui
[09:02] <thedevilsjester> you have to reboot x
[09:02] <thedevilsjester> bun2, goto GDM and type ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> yea
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> chm is winodwo help file format
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> but
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> i can't read in ubuntu
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> me?
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> how i need to do?
[09:02] <thedevilsjester> err press
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> penguin42, how i need to do?
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> how i install it?
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> o/0
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> yea?
[09:02] <Cyber-shot> ok
[09:03] <Cyber-shot> thanks
[09:03] <kandoora> penguin42: strange thing is it didn't work, i tried it
[09:03] <kandoora> pen
[09:03] <penguin42> Cyber-shot: You know how to install packages?
[09:03] <GNULinuxer> guys, mkinitrd doesn't create any initrd image nor does it display any errors ... what's the problem?
[09:03] <Xorlev> Rayen: lines don't wrap around the screen, they keep going.
[09:03] <kandoora> penguin42: is scribus prepacked with ubuntu?
[09:03] <Rayen> oh ok
[09:04] <penguin42> kandoora: Use the package manager to find out - start it up and do a search in there for the package - then install it, if it doesn't find it then go to settings->Repositories and add ubuntu universe and multiverse
[09:04] <c0rrupt_> error while loading shared libraries: libfirestorm.so.0
[09:04] <c0rrupt_> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:05] <zblach> there's no way to auto-detect network printers, is there?
[09:05] <c0rrupt_> thats the error when i run #firestorm-nids
[09:05] <c0rrupt_> does anyone know whats wrong..
[09:05] <Xorlev> Rayen: especially useful for config files with long lines.
[09:06] <h17m4n> is there a more clarified howto for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:08] <Drajka> k.. Need help
[09:08] <Drajka> This won't compile.
[09:08] <Drajka> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1870
[09:08] <seife> someone help me
[09:08] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: You are mssing a library - whereever you got firestorm from look there
[09:08] <seife> i would like to put the network of my home
[09:08] <seife> with my comp that acts like server using ubuntu
[09:08] <c0rrupt_> but penguin42 its there
[09:08] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: Where?
[09:09] <c0rrupt_> /usr/local/lib/libfirestorm.so.0
[09:09] <c0rrupt_> slocate returns a number of locations
[09:09] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: Ah - try doing   export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  in the same terminal you then try and start it from
[09:09] <c0rrupt_> also /usr/local/lib/libfirestorm.so.0.0.0 is there..
[09:09] <Blissex> seife: thats not clear, but probably it is not difficult.
[09:09] <penguin42> Drajka: Do you know basic C programming?
[09:09] <c0rrupt_> ok
[09:09] <Blissex> seife: try to be more precise as to what you want to achieve. Ask a specific question.
[09:09] <c0rrupt_> penguin42, it worked
[09:09] <h17m4n> any fglrx users here?
[09:10] <h17m4n> that could help?
[09:10] <c0rrupt_> what did that just do?
[09:10] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: It told the linker to search for libraries in /usr/local/lib as well as the standard places
[09:10] <Drajka> Eh
[09:10] <c0rrupt_> thanks
[09:10] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: If you want to make it do that permenantly add a line to /etc/ld.so.conf
[09:10] <Drajka> I know... some very basic C.. some BASIC.. and a small amount of C++
[09:11] <penguin42> Drajka: OK, try writing a little 'hello world' program and see whether gcc will compile it for you
[09:11] <Drajka> k.. I'll try.
[09:11] <Blissex> h17m4n: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions
[09:11] <Riskbreaker9> thedevilsjester: so is it like really inconvenient to install this XRandR or something?
[09:12] <Myrtti> !root
[09:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:12] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, I come from a "compile from source" distro, so it is for me
[09:12] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, it might be easier with apt, but recompiling X is something I try to avoid
[09:12] <c0rrupt_> its not fully loading
[09:12] <c0rrupt_> "1125774594.221117 error: exit: capture: cant find 'pcap'"
[09:12] <Drajka> penguin42, , I don't know hwo to...
[09:12] <Drajka> uhh..
[09:12] <Drajka> compile it from here. ;] 
[09:12] <Drajka> I have it in a .txt
[09:13] <Riskbreaker9> egh, i'd have to recompile X?
[09:13] <thedevilsjester> Riskbreaker9, most likely
[09:13] <tdn> Right now I have a 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. How do I upgrade it so that it is a 686-kernel? I have an AMD Athlon 1400MHz. So I dont know which package I should install: linux-image-2.6.11-1-386, linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 or linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7? Can you help me?
[09:13] <penguin42> Drajka: Hmm ok - rename the file to hello.c  and type   gcc hello.c
[09:14] <Drajka> well it's c++
[09:14] <Drajka> so.. .cpp?
[09:14] <chavo> tdn, you can use the k7 kernel
[09:14] <Gyoza> Hey, if I try that "nvidia-opengl-config enable" thing, would it wack out hibernation?
[09:14] <penguin42> nod
[09:14] <chavo> but you won't notice any difference
[09:14] <penguin42> tdn: Install the 'linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7' package
[09:14] <Blissex> tdn: the '-686' or '-k7' packages should be OK.
[09:14] <ompaul> alsamixergui shows PCM to be muted how do I unmute it?
[09:15] <thedevilsjester> ompaul, press M
[09:15] <c0rrupt_> penguin42, it says #exit: capture: cant find 'pcap'
[09:15] <protok0l> ah crap, i lost the scrollback. what do i put in ~/.gnomerc to export my $PATH
[09:15] <thedevilsjester> ompaul, atleast in alsamixer for ncurses
[09:15] <tdn> Blissex, ok. Then what is the difference between the two? Which is best?
[09:15] <tdn> chavo, penguin42: ok.
[09:15] <tdn> penguin42, why 2.6.10 and not 2.6.11?
[09:16] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: When does it say that?
[09:16] <Blissex> tdn: the difference is that '-686' is slightly more compatible with other CPUs, and '-k7' is precisely for Athlons, so in theory it should be a tiny bit better.
[09:16] <penguin42> tdn: 2.6.10-5 is the standard version on ubuntu still, you could install the 2.6.11 version in universe
[09:16] <ompaul> thedevilsjester, I have gone to the curses mixer and it does not accept M :( on the pcm item it is saying post 3D ,,,
[09:16] <HappyFool> seveas has railed against the 2.6.11 in the repos a few times ;)
[09:16] <HappyFool> apparently it was for testing
[09:17] <Maikeru> until theb
[09:17] <c0rrupt_> penguin42, when i run firestorm-nids
[09:17] <meeep> is 5300 FPS in glxgears good?
[09:17] <Maikeru> I guess I'll bang my head against the wall
[09:17] <thedevilsjester> ompaul, have you tried amixer via the command line?
[09:17] <c0rrupt_> the other plugins load succesfully.. but when it gets to pcap it fails
[09:17] <synd> whats better, Beagle or Spotlight?
[09:17] <tdn> Blissex, ok
[09:17] <meeep> is 5300 FPS in glxgears good for a x800pro?
[09:17] <spola> meeep, run fgl_glxgears
[09:18] <spola> thats the real one
[09:18] <tdn> penguin42, ok. But why should I not use the 2.6.11? Isn't it stable enough? Wouldn't you use it?
[09:18] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: Bit odd for it to be  a runtime thing, pcap is a library that you can install
[09:18] <ompaul> thedevilsjester, it was spdif out that needed the M :) thanks for that
[09:18] <penguin42> tdn: Yeh it probably is - just unless you need it then sticking to something in the ubuntu main is a bit more tested
[09:18] <meeep> spola, that gives 1.3 K fps, good or not?
[09:18] <c0rrupt_> libcap-bin?
[09:18] <thedevilsjester> meeep,  1000+ is good
[09:18] <meeep> well, ok, it shows up to 2.3 there as well :)
[09:19] <spola> acceptable :p
[09:19] <meeep> ok, TY
[09:19] <h17m4n> Ok, so I followed this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and ran into problems. After changing fglrx to ati and rebooting, I'd get no image.
[09:19] <Drajka> god damnit
[09:19] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: Try installing libpcap0.8
[09:19] <Drajka> what's the exit() command for C++
[09:19] <Drajka> I can't remember =|
[09:20] <Drajka> er
[09:20] <Drajka> ntoc ommand
[09:20] <Drajka> but for the coding, so I can end the code and compile
[09:20] <penguin42> you don't need one
[09:20] <tdn> penguin42, ok.
[09:20] <meeep> so, do i have to "obtain" doom3, UT 2004(or something) just like normal, or is it some special linux edition i need?
[09:20] <Maikeru> wahhhh
[09:20] <Drajka> Sigh, what's wrong with this, penguin
[09:20] <Drajka> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1871
[09:21] <ompaul> dang thing is so fast that led zepplin is faster than metallica
[09:21] <Blissex> meeep: the UT series have the Linux binaries included; Doom3 for Linux is a separate buy. You can also download the UT2004 demo for Linux to get an idea.
[09:21] <penguin42> Drajka: How far does it get  - you probably want to #include <fstream.h> (or is it ofstream()
[09:21] <bipolar> does anyone have a source for an up to date gnucash? I switched from fedora and now gnucash crashes trying to open the file from the newer version.
[09:22] <__filip_> i follow an guide at ubuntuforums that was makeing my application start faster but know some applications dont work anymore, i dont find it. Someone have an link or know how i can uninstall it?
[09:22] <meeep> Blissex, good, how 'bout enemy territory, is it doable for linux?
[09:22] <spola> meeep, it depends, some games release a linux client (but you'll still need to find the artwork on a cd), other games don't but many games can be ran through cedag / winx / whatever is hip right now
[09:22] <spola> ET works perfectly
[09:22] <penguin42> bipolar: Which version do you need?
[09:22] <Maikeru> I want to shoot something
[09:22] <Blissex> meeep: no idea, but look at the Linux Gaming FAQ on http://WWW.Icculus.org/ and also look for the site called Linux Game Tome etc.
[09:22] <Maikeru> argh
[09:22] <Drajka> Naw
[09:23] <Drajka> Now it' snot understanding cin / cout
[09:23] <meeep> spola, dont intend to use an emulator, the games that works on linux i will use, no others :)
[09:23] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, you talking about prelink?
[09:24] <bipolar> penguin42, I think it was 1.8.11
[09:24] <__filip_> yes, that was the name
[09:24] <bipolar> penguin42, I don't know what verson it will take to be compatible.
[09:24] <penguin42> bipolar: Hmm, I can see source for 1.8.10 in debian's pool
[09:24] <thedevilsjester> __filip_,  just uninstalling it wont do anything
[09:24] <__filip_> thedevilsjester: you know how i can get it uninstall?
[09:24] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, it modified your executables, you need to undo the changes
[09:24] <__filip_> how?
[09:25] <__filip_> okej
[09:25] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, google for a prelink howto, I dont know offhand, its a simple prelink command
[09:25] <bipolar> penguin42, thats strange... I wonder why ubuntu doesn't have it.
[09:25] <__filip_> ok
[09:25] <penguin42> bipolar: Probably just in debian/unstable
[09:25] <Maikeru> sigh
[09:25] <Drajka> .................
[09:25] <Drajka> penguin.....
[09:25] <Drajka> lol....
[09:25] <Drajka> I just realized this....
[09:25] <Drajka> we can't use gcc
[09:26] <Drajka> we need to use G++
[09:26] <Drajka> lol
[09:26] <penguin42> nah gcc will do it with a .cpp file
[09:26] <Drajka> I used G++ and it didn't complain much
[09:26] <penguin42> shrug ok
[09:26] <Maikeru> can someone e-mail me a gun?
[09:26] <penguin42> Maikeru: Sure, a glider gun do you?
[09:27] <Maikeru> I wanna shoot something
[09:27] <Maikeru> cause nothing else is going good for me
[09:27] <Drajka> penguin42,
[09:27] <Drajka> How do I try to run it now :O
[09:27] <mello6> does anyone use Breezy yet?
[09:27] <mello6> it's almost a month away
[09:27] <seife> anyone here
[09:28] <Maikeru> what's the ETA of the release?
[09:28] <seife> i need help to fix my home network.
[09:28] <Maikeru> I hope it's Oct 14
[09:28] <mello6> why?
[09:28] <Maikeru> that'd be the best bday present ever
[09:28] <__filip_> thedevilsjester: you know that you can uninstall prelink? i dont find anythink
[09:28] <mello6> haha
[09:28] <mello6> yeah, it usually comes out near the 10th
[09:28] <mello6> if i'm not mistaken
[09:28] <penguin42> Drajka: well if it produced a binary called a.out you can run it - if it didn't you look at the errors and find out why - chances are the errors you get there will be the same errors as your original problem
[09:28] <Maikeru> hrm
[09:28] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, gimme a sec
[09:29] <Maikeru> now
[09:29] <Drajka> ok..
[09:29] <Maikeru> I also need a hammer
[09:29] <Drajka> Then how do I run it
[09:29] <Drajka> <.<
[09:29] <Maikeru> to smash this fucking wireless card
[09:29] <Drajka> The a.out <.<
[09:29] <__filip_> thedevilsjester: jupp
[09:29] <Maikeru> or the laptop
[09:29] <Maikeru> one or the other
[09:29] <mello6> Maikeru, are you on Hoary?
[09:29] <Maikeru> yeah
[09:29] <penguin42> Drajka: ./a.out
[09:29] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, prelink -ua
[09:29] <Drajka> oh, look at that :] 
[09:29] <Drajka> it works
[09:30] <penguin42> Drajka: Damn - I'd assumed it would fail and the failure would tell us why your original configure couldn't run the C compiler.....
[09:30] <seife> anyone helping me:'( ?
[09:30] <__filip_> thedevilsjester: thanx
[09:30] <thedevilsjester> __filip_, np
[09:30] <Drajka> :[
[09:30] <seife> I need a Network Guru
[09:30] <c0rrupt_> penguin42, libpcap0.8 is already the newest version.
[09:30] <penguin42> c0rrupt_: Shrug - you'll need to look at the thing thats using it then
[09:30] <ompaul> whats the situation with a CD playing from the drive too fast but grip rips no problem and encodes
[09:31] <z0unds> okay works now also used mkfs, how do i make a link to it on the desktop
[09:31] <Maikeru> anyone know when seveas will most likely be on? ;/
[09:31] <c0rrupt_> hmm?
[09:31] <c0rrupt_> Lol
[09:31] <__filip_> i have one more question, has you run linux before try ubuntu? it is to everyone
[09:31] <Drajka> :O
[09:31] <Blissex> __filip_: yes, for the paste dozen years...
[09:32] <z0unds> how do i make a link on the desktop to /mnt/hda6 ?
[09:32] <bipolar> ugh.... the gnucash dependancys are screwing with me trying to install the gnucash from debian
[09:32] <z0unds> in the desktop folder that is
[09:32] <__filip_> what distro?
[09:32] <ompaul> __filip_, well lets see if we can work that out, I have been using various Linux and BSD stuff for ten years and Ubuntu is almost a year old :)
[09:32] <xxviperzlairxx> hello
[09:32] <Blissex> ompaul: that a CD plays from the drive too fast is really very unlikely.
[09:32] <seife> someone
[09:32] <seife> help me
[09:32] <h17m4n> what is the command to restart gdm?
[09:32] <seife> please
[09:32] <seife> !
[09:32] <ubotu> seife: Not a clue
[09:33] <thedevilsjester> h17m4n, ctrl+alt+backspace  while in gdm...
[09:33] <__filip_> ompaul: have ever run windows? you know how windows works?
[09:33] <thedevilsjester> h17m4n, that will restart X too
[09:33] <Blissex> seife: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions
[09:33] <ompaul> Blissex, you know that is a reasonsable point, it must be the software
[09:34] <Blissex> h17m4n: depends... but <thedevilsjester>'s suggestion sounds reasonable; else 'killall gdm'
[09:34] <xxviperzlairxx> When does the next release of Ubuntu come out?
[09:34] <thedevilsjester> Blissex, h17m4n already left :P
[09:34] <ompaul> __filip_, years ago and for various employers over the last few years
[09:34] <Blissex> ompaul: or perhaps a wacked ALSA setup. Read the troublehsooting and sound quality sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 for possible hints
[09:34] <__filip_> okej
[09:35] <Maikeru> lalalalala
[09:35] <seife> ok
[09:35] <seife> someone
[09:35] <seife> please help
[09:35] <seife> :'(
[09:35] <thedevilsjester> Blissex, it would have to restart GDM because it reboots X and GDM depends on X :)
[09:35] <ompaul> __filip_, and I have used mac os and os X and mainframes :)
[09:35] <ompaul> Blissex, yeah I just got this working it could be a kludege
[09:36] <ompaul> Blissex, kludge
[09:36] <__filip_> so you have run all OS nextly? have you run that..hmm what is it call?
[09:36] <__filip_> bos
[09:36] <arnieboy> anybody got vdrift working?
[09:36] <__filip_> BEos i think
[09:37] <ompaul> __filip_, that was a nice idea lasted about a year
[09:37] <__filip_> mopaul: ok
[09:38] <Bateau_> hey! i need gcc and c compiler and so on.. is there a package that has all these basic things in it? so that i dont have to install all packages by myself. (im trying to compile a program, and it says i need a c compiler, and gcc)
[09:39] <ompaul> Bateau_, apt-get install build-essential
[09:39] <seife> how i see wich network cards are available and how do i configure network connections
[09:39] <Bateau_> ah, thanks ompaul :D
[09:40] <seife> phew
[09:41] <seife> nobody helps me here.
[09:41] <seife> ive asked like 3 times
[09:41] <Pyf> hi im following ubuntuguide.org and trying to install azureus, it says i need to install a java runtime, which i try and do, but i get"E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" when I "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[09:41] <Pyf> what am i doing wrong?
[09:42] <arnieboy> system -->administration -->networking @seife
[09:42] <ompaul> seife, click on system adminstration networking
[09:42] <seife> thank u so much
[09:42] <arnieboy> have u added the backports repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list @pyf
[09:43] <seife> thanks
[09:44] <arnieboy> check http://ubuntuguide.org#repositories for details
[09:44] <arnieboy> @pyf
[09:45] <z0unds> what option should i set in fstab to make the partition accesible by all users? (dosnt work with default or users)
[09:45] <ompaul> z0unds, is it not the function of fstab to do that
[09:45] <z0unds> then what
[09:47] <seife> i turned on the network stuff
[09:47] <seife> put the ip
[09:47] <El_Che> &/wc
[09:47] <seife> but my dad is still dont getting internet on his comp
[09:48] <pekka^> could some kind soul please help me configure my logitech quickcam pro 3000? :)
[09:50] <seife> help
[09:50] <pekka^> been looking through documentation, forums, you name it. still can't get the cam to work properly, the problem is the picture is too dark :(
[09:51] <Cyber-shot> hello all
[09:51] <Cyber-shot> how to install  gnochm in ubuntu?
[09:53] <HappyFool> Cyber-shot: it doesn't seem to be in the repositories; one option is to install from source
[09:53] <chrismy> yo yo
[09:54] <thellama> yo
[09:54] <pekka^> yo
[09:54] <chrismy> lol
[09:54] <thellama> ^_^
[09:54] <pekka^> :P
[09:55] <thellama> my ibook can't sleep in hoary
[09:55] <thellama> it says something about not finding cpu freq on wake
[09:55] <chrismy> i swould like to know what is the best compression free software for video and audio for linux.
[09:55] <thellama> ffmepgx?
[09:55] <thellama> *ffmpegx
[09:55] <pekka^> is there anyone in this channels that is a guru when it comes to webcaming in linux?
[09:55] <Cyber-shot> pls help me
[09:55] <Cyber-shot> >:D<
[09:55] <UbuntuN00b> Is there anyway to run RealVNC on Ubuntu?
[09:56] <chrismy> ffmpegx?
[09:56] <h17m4n> I'm trying to install fglrx, and I get this: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-amd64
[09:56] <GNULinuxer> mkinitrd is NOT creating any initrd image ... nor there is any error ... any ideas?
[09:56] <thellama> woops, thats for mac only
[09:56] <thellama> sorry
[09:56] <thellama> it's a gui frontend to ffmpeg
[09:57] <thellama> you guys have to admit, tiger is much more polished than hoary...
[09:57] <ionrock> does anyone know of a good way to get rid of anything mono related? the breezy packages haven't been working at all for me so I would just like to compile things from scratch
[09:57] <Pyf> hmmm, ive added the repositories now and it says "killall gnome-panel" when i "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[09:57] <GNULinuxer> thellama: no doubt ...
[09:57] <seife> how i put a network connection to share internet ?
[09:57] <seife> something like allow other computer networks to use my internet
[09:57] <seife> how?
[09:57] <Pyf> meh, wrong copy, it actually says "Unable to lock the download directory"
[09:58] <seife> how i put a network connection to share internet ?
[09:58] <seife> my internet
[09:58] <pekka^> anybody realised this channel is filled with people asking questions but no one hardly ever answers them? :)
[09:59] <GNULinuxer> pekka^: heh
[09:59] <chrismy> thellama, how about ffmpeg2theora? is it better than the ffmpeg?
[09:59] <HappyFool> Pyf: you're running synaptic or another aptitude or apt-get process
[09:59] <thellama> chrismy: hmm
[09:59] <LasseL> the "answering team" must be taking a day off :)
[09:59] <aurax> sup guys
[10:00] <HappyFool> Pyf: or something crashed and didn't release the lock
[10:00] <pekka^> yeah something like that :P
[10:00] <thellama> i preffer ffmpeg to ffmep2theora
[10:00] <hamourabi> I need to install gcc on my box
[10:00] <LasseL> Pyf, did you enable backports?
[10:00] <HappyFool> hamourabi: install the 'build-essential' package; it's on the cd
[10:00] <thellama> ffmpeg2theora is only a simple converter
[10:00] <chrismy> thellama, why is it?
[10:00] <thellama> ffmpeg is much more
[10:01] <thellama> more codecs
[10:01] <LasseL> Pyf, try searching for "sun" in synaptic
[10:01] <thellama> more options
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> I need help installing AIM.
[10:01] <thellama> aim?
[10:01] <thellama> how about gaim?
[10:01] <LasseL> UbuntuN00b, try gaim
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> YEs.
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> I want to try AIM.
[10:01] <thellama> y?
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> The one that AOL Released.
[10:01] <thellama> gaim does aim
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> YEs, I know.
[10:01] <UbuntuN00b> I just want to try it.
[10:01] <thellama> okay...
[10:01] <pekka^> does anybody know how to modify the brightness and such on my webcam? the bars in gnomemeeting has no effect at all
[10:02] <UbuntuN00b> llama could you help?
[10:02] <thellama> it might mess up your computer UbuntuN00b
[10:02] <HappyFool> UbuntuN00b: gaim is installed by default, i think
[10:02] <HappyFool> UbuntuN00b: applications -> internet -> gaim
[10:02] <UbuntuN00b> It's an experimental computer, i dont care.
[10:02] <pekka^> gqcam also does nothing, it gets a little brighter but not enough
[10:02] <thellama> ah okay
[10:02] <LasseL> UbuntuN00b, are you sure the AOL version is for linux?
[10:03] <UbuntuN00b> YEs.
[10:03] <UbuntuN00b> They release a new one.
[10:03] <aurax> is there a good firewall guide out there for ubuntu ?
[10:03] <ionrock> UbuntuN00b, I am doubting folks know how to install it. it is  a very very old version and gaim does most things just as and in the majority of cases, much better
[10:03] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I did download the ubuntu, I didnt buy it on a cd, I didnt find it in there :\
[10:03] <HappyFool> hamourabi: did you download the install cd ?
[10:03] <hamourabi> yeah
[10:04] <HappyFool> hamourabi: put the install cd into the drive, and install 'build-essential' with synaptic
[10:05] <aurax> is there a good automated solution for ubuntu ?
[10:05] <aurax> automated backup*
[10:05] <ionrock> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=  <-- I am sticking with gaim ;)
[10:06] <HappyFool> aurax: maybe bacula? i'm sure there are several
[10:06] <hamourabi> I got it
[10:06] <hamourabi> may I paste 2 lines?
[10:06] <HappyFool> hamourabi: sure
[10:06] <hamourabi> ./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:06] <hamourabi> ./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'
[10:06] <HappyFool> hamourabi: how are you installing this?
[10:07] <hamourabi> chmod a+x build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:07] <hamourabi> the ./build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:07] <hamourabi> then*
[10:07] <HappyFool> no
[10:07] <HappyFool> use synaptic
[10:07] <HappyFool> or aptitude
[10:07] <HappyFool> are you running gnome?
[10:07] <hamourabi> hmm, I'm a newbie :(
[10:07] <hamourabi> yeah
[10:07] <LasseL> aurax, did you try searching in synaptic for backup?
[10:07] <aurax> HappyFool, i tell you what i wanna do
[10:07] <aurax> yeh LasseL
[10:07] <aurax> i found amanda,
[10:07] <LasseL> aurax, I am looking for a system too :)
[10:07] <HappyFool> hamourabi: system -> administration -> synaptic
[10:08] <LasseL> aurax, bacula ?
[10:08] <aurax> i got ubuntu as a mail/gateway etc
[10:08] <apokryphos> Manually installing build-essential seems pretty useless to me
[10:08] <HappyFool> hamourabi: enter your user password
[10:08] <apokryphos> it's just a metapackage
[10:08] <aurax> pfft
[10:08] <aurax> loking intresting
[10:08] <aurax> i want to attach to it a USB drive
[10:08] <LasseL> aurax, i run a mail and samba server
[10:08] <aurax> backup daily at certein hour
[10:08] <LasseL> aurax, a USB drive is just a mount
[10:08] <LasseL> aurax, nothing special about that
[10:08] <aurax> point is...
[10:08] <HappyFool> hamourabi: then look for 'build-essential' in the list, right click it and choose 'Mark for installation' then click 'apply'
[10:08] <aurax> i got two 160gb's
[10:08] <aurax> one is / and the other is /usr
[10:09] <chrismy> thellama, oh yeah. it does has A LOT or options! but it has no example how to use it.
[10:09] <aurax> how can i backup them both to one drive
[10:09] <aurax> and restore when i need
[10:09] <aurax> any known configuration /
[10:09] <aurax> ?
[10:09] <HappyFool> hamourabi: if you don't understand, please tell me -- i will happily explain further
[10:10] <HappyFool> aurax: you can maybe just use rsync if you want to copy everything
[10:10] <zdennis> i lost a network connection for about 2 seconds, and now my nfs mounts are freezing... i can't umount them because it says "Device is busy", but I can't remount them either. Any ideas?\
[10:10] <hamourabi> HappyFool,  I got an error
[10:10] <hamourabi> E: Type '...' is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <hamourabi> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:10] <hamourabi> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[10:10] <HappyFool> hamourabi: hmm
[10:10] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you've edited /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:11] <aurax> rsync is imager?
[10:11] <HappyFool> aurax: it copies files 'efficiently'
[10:11] <LasseL> aurax, I think rsync is more for keeping mirror ftp sites up to date
[10:11] <HappyFool> aurax: if you want to image, you could maybe use dd, or something more specialized; i'm not familiar with disk imaging
[10:11] <HappyFool> it's for sync'ing any two directory structures. very handy
[10:12] <aurax> ahm
[10:12] <aurax> i prefer something i can backup pure backup
[10:12] <aurax> and pure restore
[10:12] <aurax> if system fails
[10:12] <LasseL> aurax, how much space is on your usb disc?
[10:12] <aurax> 160 if i remember rightg
[10:12] <hamourabi> HappyFool, nah didnt yet, hold on to see whats in there
[10:12] <aurax> but the os as it is now
[10:12] <aurax> is like >10gigs
[10:12] <LasseL> aurax, that leaves you 160gb short
[10:12] <LasseL> ok
[10:13] <aurax> yeah i thought about that, but i prefer like keep a backup of information only
[10:13] <hamourabi> HappyFool, what should I do in there ?:(
[10:13] <HappyFool> hamourabi: can you please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:14] <LasseL> aurax, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/209 ?
[10:14] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you can view that file with gedit (e.g., 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' from the command line)
[10:14] <aurax> thx, checking ...
[10:15] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I used "nano"
[10:15] <aurax> LasseL
[10:15] <aurax> wont it be best to rar the mail server daily
[10:15] <HappyFool> hamourabi: if you know how to cut-and-paste to the pastebin website with nano, ok;
[10:15] <aurax> and move it to another file system?
[10:15] <aurax> err drive*
[10:16] <LasseL> aurax, no, you should find a way to do an incremental backup
[10:16] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I pasted
[10:17] <hamourabi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1875
[10:17] <LasseL> aurax, otherwise when your maildir gets bigger your server will spend half its time doing backups :)
[10:17] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok, just a second
[10:17] <HappyFool> hamourabi: line 4 has three dots (...) -- they should not be there
[10:17] <HappyFool> hamourabi: use nano to remove them, and save the file
[10:17] <hamourabi> ok
[10:18] <hamourabi> HappyFool, done.
[10:18] <aurax> LasseL -> http://freshmeat.net/projects/ribs/ ?
[10:18] <HappyFool> hamourabi: when that is done, close synaptic and open it again
[10:18] <LasseL> aurax, http://www.fluffy.co.uk/boxbackup/
[10:18] <huhmz> Hi. I just upgraded to breezy from hoary but my fonts arent displaying in firefox, what could be the problem?
[10:19] <HappyFool> hamourabi: is it working now?
[10:19] <aurax> thx
[10:20] <hamourabi> yeah
[10:21] <Maikeru> rawr
[10:21] <Maikeru> I'm installing winecvs
[10:21] <Maikeru> whee
[10:21] <aurax> LasseL i dont need backup server/client
[10:22] <aurax> just one solution with cronjob
[10:22] <LasseL> aurax, boxbackup does that
[10:23] <fevel> can someone help me to install my scanner
[10:23] <fevel> xsane doesntseem to support it
[10:23] <fevel> its a parallel scanner
[10:23] <Unit134679> anyone here can help me with a GRUB problem?
[10:24] <Maikeru> State what the problem is
[10:24] <Maikeru> be specific
[10:24] <LasseL> aurax, I have about 300gb of data and nowhere to put it all, so I have to just backup the 30gb most important stuff
[10:24] <Maikeru> else we don't know if we can or can't
[10:24] <Bateau_> hey. when i try to install "build-essential", i get this error that i need gcc-3.3 installed. do i find it in the synaptic list nad try to install. this says that i need cpp-3.3. but i cant find that in synaptic. what to do?
[10:24] <fevel> xsane doesnt recognize the device
[10:24] <Unit134679> mind if i pm you Maikeru? its long
[10:25] <apokryphos> Bateau_: are you trying to install build-essential from synaptic?
[10:25] <Maikeru> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:25] <Bateau_> apokryphos: no, i typed that in a console
[10:25] <Bateau_> apt-get and so on
[10:25] <Bateau_> :P
[10:25] <apokryphos> Bateau_: and, perhaps the external repositories are commented out in your sources.list
[10:25] <Maikeru> Paste there and give us the URL and we'll take a look
[10:25] <Maikeru> Cause I might not be able to help but someone else might be able to
[10:25] <HappyFool> gcc etc are on the cd
[10:25] <HappyFool> build-essential should Just Work
[10:26] <Bateau_> apokryphos: oki? which on is to be uncommented?
[10:26] <apokryphos> HappyFool: build-essential on the CD? Hm.
[10:26] <HappyFool> apokryphos: yip
[10:26] <Bateau_> i dont have the cd :P
[10:26] <HappyFool> apokryphos: and its dependencies (bit pointless otherwise)
[10:26] <HappyFool> ah
[10:26] <apokryphos> Yes. One sec, I'll double-check.
[10:27] <sedatc> hi all
[10:27] <r0bby> how would I go about getting the 000default file for sites-enabled in apache2?
[10:27] <sedatc> is there any body can help me
[10:27] <HappyFool> sedatc: tell us the problem, maybe we can
[10:27] <apokryphos> yup, build-essential seems to be there
[10:27] <apokryphos> Bateau_: can you http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:28] <hamourabi> HappyFool, gcc is installed :D
[10:28] <HappyFool> hamourabi: well done ;)
[10:28] <Unit134679> Maikeru: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1876
[10:28] <Bateau_> apokryphos: oki 1 sec :)
[10:28] <hamourabi> but I still have many to install :(
[10:28] <sedatc> I am trying to use eclipse when I try to run it from gui it says there is no jre installed
[10:28] <HappyFool> sedatc: you probably need to install java
[10:28] <HappyFool> !java
[10:28] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:28] <apokryphos> Bateau_: did you say you *don't* have hte cd?
[10:28] <sedatc> when I try to execute script from console everything is okey why
[10:29] <Bateau_> apokryphos: thats right
[10:29] <sartas> should i get breezy, you think?
[10:29] <Bateau_> apokryphos: i DONT have the cd
[10:29] <sartas> or: WHY should i get Breezy?
[10:29] <apokryphos> Bateau_: yes, got it. We'll have to use the net to get it then
[10:29] <hamourabi> I'm trying to install the xmms the media player for linux :(
[10:29] <apokryphos> sartas: you shouldn't, if you don't know what you're doing.
[10:29] <Bateau_> indeed :D
[10:29] <hamourabi> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[10:29] <sartas> ok
[10:29] <r0bby> hamourabi, sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:29] <seife> can u guys tell me an ubuntu network configuration help page
[10:29] <seife> !
[10:29] <ubotu> No idea, seife
[10:29] <HappyFool> hamourabi: xmms is in the repositories; you don't need to compile it
[10:30] <sartas> another thingy then: how do i start ubuntu calendar?
[10:30] <protok0l> for some reason firefox will not install extensions
[10:30] <sartas> =D
[10:30] <sartas> protokol:
[10:30] <protok0l> in the default ubuntu install
[10:30] <sartas> its a common problem
[10:30] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I have to ./configure
[10:30] <hamourabi> then make
[10:30] <HappyFool> hamourabi: no
[10:30] <hamourabi> and make install
[10:30] <hamourabi> then ? :\
[10:30] <ttyS0> Is that possible to remove "nVidia" logo that appears before showing log-in screen? :)
[10:30] <sartas> yup
[10:30] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you can enable network repositories, and install that way instead
[10:30] <protok0l> sartas: is there a fix for it?
[10:30] <sartas> tty:
[10:31] <HappyFool> hamourabi: *much* easier
[10:31] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my GRUB?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1876
[10:31] <sartas> check ubuntuguide.org
[10:31] <Bateau_> apokryphos: what do i do to "use the net" then? what kind of repository do i need to ad :)
[10:31] <sartas> protok0l: dont think so
[10:31] <apokryphos> Bateau_: paste it and we'll see
[10:31] <chrismy> how do i use the ffmpeg? it is more difficult than the ffmpeg3theora :(
[10:31] <ttyS0> thx
[10:31] <chrismy> *ffmpeg2theora
[10:31] <Bateau_> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1877
[10:31] <HappyFool> hamourabi: read the page ubotu will be pointing you to
[10:32] <HappyFool> !tell hamourabi about repos
[10:32] <apokryphos> Bateau_: hm, seems fine.
[10:32] <apokryphos> Bateau_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:32] <HappyFool> hamourabi: add the network repositories, and use synaptic to install xmms
[10:32] <Patrick`> the torrent tracker is down?
[10:32] <EE|Bullz> can someone help me
[10:32] <sedatc> HappyFool: could be  there any problem with setting path for console and gui seperate
[10:32] <Patrick`> we can try
[10:33] <sartas> please tell me: how do i run ubuntu-calendar?
[10:33] <Unit134679> can i get some help with my GRUB?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1876
[10:33] <cfaun> ubuntu Why does the latest repository of ubuntu still have a critical security update in zlib?
[10:33] <protok0l> sartas: i dont see it on there
[10:34] <sartas> protok0l: what?
[10:34] <chrismy> !ffmpeg
[10:34] <ubotu> chrismy: I don't know
[10:34] <sartas> protok0l: on ubuntu guide? that wasnt for you.. someone wanted to get rid of the nVidia logo
[10:34] <r0bby> can anybody give me a default sites-enabled file?
[10:35] <r0bby> i was a nimrod and deleted mine
[10:35] <r0bby> :X
[10:35] <r0bby> 000default :/
[10:35] <HappyFool> sedatc: not really
[10:35] <Patrick`> jesus
[10:36] <Patrick`> official ubuntu people, I salute you
[10:36] <HappyFool> sedatc: to set path for the console, use ~/.bashrc
[10:36] <Patrick`> good luck, don't get homicidal
[10:36] <Patrick`> I'm off
[10:36] <Bateau_> apokryphos: this happens: E: Build-dependencies for build-essential could not be satisfied.
[10:36] <HappyFool> sedatc: for gui, use ~/.gnomerc
[10:36] <Bateau_> apokryphos: so it still dosent work
[10:36] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I give up, what is the network repsitories ?
[10:36] <z|bandito> hello... I have ubuntu installed on this system, and I can get sound effects from gnome OK (makes a noise when you launch or close a window or something similar) but when I try to play an audio CD or internet radio, it's all garbled...  I tried switching to ALSA (instead of ESD) but it gives an error when I click 'test' (failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA) .... how can I fix this?  thanks ! :-)
[10:36] <apokryphos> Bateau_: doing sudo aptitude install gcc gives?
[10:36] <hamourabi> now I got the ubotu
[10:36] <HappyFool> hamourabi: did you read the page ubotu told you about?
[10:36] <EE|Bullz> i have a problem :(
[10:36] <sartas> ...
[10:36] <hamourabi> HappyFool,  didnt see them before
[10:36] <EE|Bullz> i do not have access to my own files
[10:37] <sartas> !ubuntu-calendar
[10:37] <ubotu> sartas: What?
[10:37] <ompaul> !ask
[10:37] <z|bandito> or how can i determine the chipset to see if there is a bug report?
[10:37] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok, check them out and get back to me
[10:37] <sartas> lol.
[10:37] <z|bandito> i know it has i810 integrated graphics; not sure if that also does the sound
[10:37] <ompaul> !tell EE|Bullz about ask
[10:37] <Bateau_> apokryphos: gcc: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installable
[10:37] <r0bby> i give up
[10:37] <r0bby> :/
[10:37] <z|bandito> bullz did you try to do the sudo chmod thing/
[10:37] <z|bandito> ?
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> no
[10:38] <HappyFool> r0bby: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1878
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> you didnt tell me
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> you like left
[10:38] <z|bandito> sorry i had to go
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> oh it sok
[10:38] <z|bandito> i have an injury atm
[10:38] <apokryphos> Bateau_: comment out hoary-backports and hoary-extras and retry
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> so what should i do to access that folder
[10:38] <apokryphos> Bateau_: what other things have you installed on the system?
[10:38] <lathropwells> <<-- New All-in-Wonder video card inspires a dance on the chair. - lol
[10:38] <z|bandito> i have a couple of minutes
[10:38] <ompaul> EE|Bullz, which folder?
[10:38] <EE|Bullz> its one of my folders i downloaded called source
[10:38] <z|bandito> try and read the man pages on chmod or chown.. those are the commands you likely will need to use
[10:38] <ompaul> EE|Bullz, where is it?
[10:39] <EE|Bullz> desktop
[10:39] <z|bandito> though admittadly the man pages can be hard to understand at times
[10:39] <lathropwells> !fglrx
[10:39] <ubotu> it has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <frank23> Bateau_: Did you install packages from debian or other non-ubuntu sources?
[10:39] <seife> man
[10:39] <seife> i cant get my network
[10:39] <ompaul> EE|Bullz, right click on it and tell me this whose name in on the file owner?
[10:39] <seife> working
[10:39] <Bateau_> frank23: no
[10:39] <EE|Bullz> k one sec
[10:40] <Bateau_> apokryphos: still the same message
[10:40] <bullz> its me bullz
[10:40] <apokryphos> Bateau_: you commented them both out, saved the file, updated apt, then tried installing?
[10:40] <bullz> im on the computer
[10:40] <Bateau_> yes
[10:41] <Bateau_> but forgot to update :x
[10:41] <apokryphos> useless, then. :P
[10:41] <bullz> ompaul: what should i be looking for?
[10:41] <bullz> ompaul: i right clicked..
[10:41] <Bateau_> ill try again :)
[10:41] <frank23> Bateau_: gcc-3.3 is in main. It should work. Can you install other packages?
[10:41] <Bateau_> frank23: yes. those who dont depend on gcc-3.3 :P
[10:42] <ompaul> bullz, there is a tab called permissions click that and read the name of the file owner
[10:42] <bullz> (some contents unreadable)
[10:42] <bullz> the file owner is speed along with the file group
[10:42] <lobo_nz> anyone have any advice on the easiest way to get mysql5 installed?
[10:42] <ompaul> bullz, and what is your username
[10:42] <bullz> speed
[10:43] <bullz> =\
[10:43] <ompaul> bullz, so you do have access to the file
[10:43] <bullz> no..
[10:43] <bullz> it has an x on the folder
[10:43] <bullz> with a lock next to the x
[10:43] <hamourabi> HappyFool,  downloading package information, but seems it's stuck
[10:43] <Maikeru> Unit
[10:43] <Maikeru> I had Windows and Ubuntu on two different drives. When I installed Ubuntu, it was master and Windows was slave, and since GRUB wouldnt boot Windows since it was slave, I switched Windows to master and Ubuntu to slave. I can't install GRUB on the MBR, and I dont want to reinstall Ubuntu.
[10:43] <Maikeru> You call ^^ THAT!? a big paste?
[10:43] <Maikeru> Oh lord
[10:43] <Maikeru> !recover
[10:43] <ubotu> recover is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:44] <HappyFool> Maikeru: maybe he ran afoul of seveas once before ;)
[10:44] <Maikeru> Possibl
[10:44] <Maikeru> Possibly*
[10:44] <Maikeru> He asked to pm me cause it was large
[10:44] <Maikeru> so I tell him to pastebin it
[10:44] <HappyFool> hamourabi: i'd just wait
[10:44] <Maikeru> and paste it in here
[10:44] <hamourabi> okey
[10:44] <Maikeru> cause if he just pmed me I might nt be able to help (not knowing the problem)
[10:44] <Maikeru> so he pastebins and pms me with the url
[10:44] <Maikeru> lol
[10:44] <fivetwentysix> ubotu lollll
[10:44] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, fivetwentysix
[10:45] <ompaul> bullz, in that tab under the owner which boxes are clicked
[10:45] <bullz> ompaul: all of them
[10:45] <fivetwentysix> ubotu usb sound
[10:45] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: Are you on ritalin?
[10:46] <fivetwentysix> Anyone know how to get usb sound to work?
[10:46] <hamourabi> failed Release.gpg
[10:46] <__filip_> i have an USB harddrive that hade allways been automounted but not now when i put it in. why? and ho can i muont it?
[10:47] <Bateau_> you dont have a solution apokryphos? :( im strugeling in the dark here D:
[10:47] <auk> poofy!
[10:47] <ompaul> bullz, okay I want you to do a screen shot with that tab and the folder visible and put it in a pastebin
[10:47] <seife> ok
[10:47] <seife> i still cant get my network with internet
[10:47] <seife> so its ubuntu
[10:47] <apokryphos> Bateau_: did you try what I said?
[10:47] <seife> ;:(
[10:48] <bullz> ompaul im not right clicking on the folder
[10:48] <Bateau_> yes
[10:48] <Bateau_> it failed apokryphos  :(
[10:48] <bullz> i cant right click on it
[10:48] <apokryphos> Bateau_: and same error? Ok. What other things have you installed sofar?
[10:48] <apokryphos> Bateau_: can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep gcc
[10:49] <ompaul> bullz, you were if you were able to get the permissions which you called out to me afik - may I suggest you take a screenshot of that folder and put it in pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:49] <Unit134679> I had Windows and Ubuntu on two different drives. When I installed Ubuntu, it was master and Windows was slave, and since GRUB wouldnt boot Windows since it was slave, I switched Windows to master and Ubuntu to slave. I can't install GRUB on the MBR, and I dont want to reinstall Ubuntu.
[10:49] <hamourabi> HappyFool, if the download will go through ftp, so I cann't get it, coz most of the ports the firewall blocks it, and I dont have access on the firewall.
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> grub can boot the slave windows drive - if you do it right.
[10:50] <Bateau_> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1879
[10:50] <HappyFool> hamourabi: what can you access ? http?
[10:50] <hamourabi> and I got 2 Failed packages .
[10:50] <apokryphos> Bateau_: there's your problem. You got gcc from somewhere else, apparently.
[10:51] <Pyf> i managed to crash mplayer and im a bit of a noob, how do i kill it, the equivalent of ctrl-alt-delete
[10:51] <Pyf> ?
[10:51] <HappyFool> hamourabi: i do not understand. Can you access http ?
[10:51] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I can access http. and the failed packages, its protocol is http.
[10:51] <hamourabi> but I dunno why Failed :/
[10:51] <ompaul> okay bullz I am on a modem - please save that as a jpg and put it on the pastebin - and don't send stuff to people unless they ask :)
[10:51] <pajama> I have an AVER TVPhone98 tuner card, how can I configure it under Ubuntu?
[10:51] <HappyFool> hamourabi: try 'reload' in synaptic
[10:51] <Bateau_> apokryphos:  aha.. how did that happen? i havent installed gcc, or any other ap. only from synaptic
[10:51] <HappyFool> hamourabi: maybe there was a network glitch
[10:51] <bullz> im finding this too much over a folder
[10:51] <apokryphos> Bateau_: I don't know if backports has it or something. Anyhow...
[10:51] <bullz> i might as well switch back to fedora core
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> pajama,  may want to check google to see if that thing has any linux support at all.
[10:51] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I will canel the download?
[10:51] <apokryphos> Bateau_: sudo apt-get remove gcc
[10:52] <hamourabi> cancel*
[10:52] <exil3> finally
[10:52] <Unit134679> DR_Willis, how can i do it right then?
[10:52] <Unit134679> Dr_Willis*
[10:52] <HappyFool> Pyf: try application -> system tools -> system monitor
[10:52] <HappyFool> Pyf: it's a bit like windows task manager
[10:52] <HappyFool> hamourabi: um
[10:52] <Unit134679> im not in Ubuntu
[10:52] <Unit134679> by the way
[10:52] <Bateau_> apokryphos: "Package gcc is not installed, so not removed"
[10:52] <HappyFool> hamourabi: what are you downloading now? the synaptic reload still?
[10:52] <exil3> Sorry, I'm having problems with my resolution... where do i find a nvidia graphics pack.. mine didnt work
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Unit134679,  there is some way to remap the slave to be master in the grub configs. been ages since ive had to do so.
[10:53] <HappyFool> !nvidia
[10:53] <Unit134679> oh
[10:53] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:53] <apokryphos> Bateau_: sudo apt-get remove gcc-2.95
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Unit134679,  perhaps similer to 'remap 0x83 0x82' or somthing.. the x8# is like how the bios numbers the drives i recall.
[10:53] <Unit134679> well since i have Windows as the master now, i tried installed GRUB into the MBR but it wouldnt work
[10:53] <exil3> thanks ubot
[10:53] <exil3> u
[10:54] <Pyf> HappyFool, ooh thanks :)
[10:54] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I did reload
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Unit134679,  personally - i  use my mbs bios to boot each hard drive.. I can hit F11 and pick what HD to boot. :P
[10:54] <hamourabi> and it started to download Release packages
[10:54] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok
[10:54] <thellama> okay, so i just installed opera with sudo dpkg -i, and i can start it by typing in opera at the command line, how come i dont have an icon in the app menu
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/
[10:55] <Unit134679> well i would do that but i want to make it easy for other people who use my computer
[10:55] <Bateau_> apokryphos: oki, its done :)
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> Grub is one of those things that it pays to learn all about.
[10:55] <thellama> anyone?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> make a launcher then thellama  :P
[10:55] <seife> i think my other comps will never get internet :(
[10:55] <HappyFool> thellama: easiest is to create an 'application launcher' on the panel (right-click, add to panel)
[10:56] <thellama> ah thanks!
[10:56] <hamourabi> HappyFool, all failed
[10:56] <thellama> :)
[10:56] <apokryphos> Bateau_: hm, that gcc is from Universe actually. Weird. Try installing gcc now
[10:56] <hamourabi> just the one from cdrom is done.
[10:56] <HappyFool> hamourabi: are you in the US?
[10:56] <Bateau_> oki
[10:56] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I'm in Lebanon.
[10:56] <HappyFool> hamourabi: cos your mirrors are all us.archive.*
[10:57] <HappyFool> hamourabi: in /etc/apt/sources.list, try changing us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <Bateau_> apokryphos:  not apt-get install build-essential? but that gcc thingy?
[10:57] <hamourabi> okey
[10:57] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you'll probably need to change at least 4 lines
[10:57] <apokryphos> Bateau_: doesn't matter for now
[10:57] <apokryphos> Bateau_: gcc better
[10:58] <Bateau_> oki
[10:58] <HappyFool> hamourabi: each of the ones starting with 'deb http://' -- the 'deb-src' lines should be commented out still (that is, should have '#' in front of them)
[10:58] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I will just change the hashed lines too ? :\
[10:58] <Bateau_> apokryphos: "gcc: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installable"
[10:58] <HappyFool> hamourabi: if you like
[10:58] <thellama> usually when i install something with synaptic, i get my new app in the gnome applications menu, and i can add that to the panel, but i dont see opera in internet
[10:58] <apokryphos> :S
[10:58] <hamourabi> okey..
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> thellama,  if the package is from the official opera site. its possible they just dident follow the right procedure to make the icon automaticially show.
[10:59] <hamourabi> HappyFool, done and saved.
[10:59] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok, try 'reload' in synaptic again
[11:00] <hamourabi> I did :)
[11:00] <HappyFool> is it working now?
[11:00] <thellama> Dr_Willis, ah so how can i do it
[11:00] <thellama> oh
[11:00] <thellama> :/
[11:00] <hamourabi> HappyFool, dunno yet, still ..
[11:00] <thellama> should i reboot?
[11:00] <Unit134679> Dr_Willis, i dont understand that GRUB Manual you gave me
[11:00] <thellama> okey....
[11:01] <HappyFool> thellama: if you want to edit the gnome menus, you can use smeg
[11:01] <HappyFool> !smeg
[11:01] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[11:01] <thellama> ah thanks
[11:01] <eggo> hello
[11:01] <thellama> where could i find the opera icon though?
[11:01] <apokryphos> Bateau_: I couldn't really say, tbh; I'd be clutching at straws. If no-one responds here, you can try the mailing list.
[11:01] <HappyFool> thellama: not sure; try 'dpkg -L opera' and see what files it has
[11:02] <thellama> k thanks HappyFool
[11:02] <Bateau_> arg :(
[11:02] <funkyHat> thellama, if you use KDE, in lost and found, if you use gnome, install smeg and make a launcher in your menu for it
[11:02] <thellama> thanks guys! :)
[11:02] <thellama> and gals ;)
[11:03] <hamourabi> HappyFool, Failed ...
[11:04] <HappyFool> hamourabi: then you have some sort of networking problem
[11:04] <hamourabi> welcome to lebanon :D
[11:04] <HappyFool> hamourabi: can you browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com ? Do you have to enter a password to access the web?
[11:04] <hamourabi> hold
[11:05] <hamourabi> HappyFool, Index of /
[11:05] <hamourabi> I'm in.
[11:05] <theeil> sound works in most apps, but not in sdl games (SDL_mixer)
[11:05] <HappyFool> hamourabi: do you have some sort of password-protected web-proxy?
[11:05] <flodine> can some help me update libc6 file
[11:05] <Bateau_> hmm, kinda weird... when i try to install gcc-3.3. it says i need cpp-3.3. so when i try tin install that, it says its allready installed... :x
[11:06] <hamourabi> I use the ISP proxy, 172.16.20.1
[11:06] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ah
[11:06] <Bateau_> i have cpp-3.3.. so why is gcc-3.3 making such a fus?
[11:06] <HappyFool> hamourabi: do you have a username/password for that, or not?
[11:06] <hamourabi> well, no, its intranet proxy ..
[11:06] <HappyFool> ok
[11:07] <hamourabi> if I removed this proxy so no more internet connection
[11:07] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok
[11:07] <HappyFool> hamourabi: in synaptic, click on settings -> preferences
[11:07] <HappyFool> hamourabi: then go to the 'Network' tab, and enter your proxy details
[11:07] <misfit_toy> hamourabi, are you having trouble using apt-get behind a proxy?
[11:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.
[11:08] <hamourabi> misfit_toy,  yeah
[11:08] <hamourabi> HappyFool, fixed :D
[11:08] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok, try reload again?
[11:08] <D1> does anyone know how to stop a module from loading at startup? eg my sis900 ethernet module
[11:08] <hamourabi> HappyFool, downloading worked :D
[11:08] <HappyFool> hamourabi: eish. at last
[11:08] <misfit_toy> hamourabi, I had that issue at the office and had to use ntmltables from sourceforge, cool little program
[11:08] <theeil> how do i fix SDL_mixer to work
[11:08] <flodine> can someone help me get libc6 21 installed
[11:08] <HappyFool> hamourabi: ok, once it's updated, you should be able to find xmms in the list
[11:09] <lukus001> I have a problem with my microphone, it's pluged in but it doesnt work... any driver need intalling or sominthg?
[11:09] <emile> what tool can be used to configure wireless lans?
[11:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.
[11:09] <hacim> hi, I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, but postfix is held back, reason:   postfix: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[11:09] <reaff> hi all
[11:09] <reaff> whats root password after install?
[11:09] <Bateau_> hmm, kinda weird... when i try to install gcc-3.3. it says i need cpp-3.3. so when i try tin install that, it says its allready installed... i have cpp-3.3.. so why is gcc-3.3 making such a fus? anyone? help please :/
[11:10] <HappyFool> D1: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:10] <hacim> reaff: there is none, use sudo
[11:10] <HappyFool> !root
[11:10] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:10] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.
[11:10] <emile> !wifi
[11:10] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:11] <hacim> anyone know why postfix depends on an upgrade to libc6?
[11:11] <HappyFool> hacim: is this a breezy dist-upgrade?
[11:12] <lukus001> How do i get my microphone working pleawes ^^
[11:12] <Bateau_> is there a breezy repository list to?
[11:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> !styles
[11:12] <ubotu> Carpe_Libertatem: Are you on ritalin?
[11:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> !themes
[11:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[11:12] <hamourabi> HappyFool, no xmms in there :S
[11:12] <misfit_toy> hmm, I just remembered an issue I have on my ubuntu box at work...can't use CVS to grab E17, is the only answer to have the firewall open CVS ports?
[11:12] <HappyFool> hamourabi: make sure you've added the 'universe' repository
[11:13] <HappyFool> oh, hango n
[11:13] <hacim> HappyFool: ah,  I figured it out, had a bad apt line
[11:13] <reaff> is tehre a way to get root oprative?
[11:13] <HappyFool> hamourabi: sorry, xmms is in main
[11:13] <HappyFool> reaff: yeah, but we don't recommend it
[11:13] <reaff> why?
[11:13] <mjr> hm, when do breezy preorders start?
[11:13] <theeil> how to get sound to work in games that use SDL (cube, lsdldoom, wesnoth)?
[11:13] <h17m4n> ok I got fglrx installed, but when I go to System>Preferences>Screen Res. I only get 3 resolutions, when I have 4 listed in the xorg.conf
[11:13] <HappyFool> reaff: something like 'sudo passwd' should do it
[11:14] <h17m4n> how do I change to that 4th resolution which is not shown?
[11:14] <UbuntuN00b> WHat's a good graphics program?
[11:14] <UbuntuN00b> To use with linux
[11:14] <HappyFool> reaff: i'm not really sure. it's an extra level of safety, i guess.
[11:14] <thellama> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg: smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however: Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1
[11:14] <thellama> gimp
[11:14] <misfit_toy> UbuntuN00b, gimp
[11:14] <HappyFool> reaff: you can use sudo -s to get a 'root shell'
[11:14] <UbuntuN00b> YEah, figured.
[11:15] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell thellama about smeg
[11:15] <UbuntuN00b> And another thing, how do I unpack a tgz?
[11:15] <reaff> HappyFool,  oki thnx
[11:15] <Bateau_> is there a breezy repository list to? where can i get it?
[11:15] <HappyFool> Bateau_: change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <Bateau_> oh :P
[11:15] <HappyFool> Bateau_: that won't fix your gcc problem though ;)
[11:15] <UbuntuN00b> What's that command?
[11:16] <HappyFool> Bateau_: one way to solve your problem would be to just reinstall
[11:16] <HappyFool> UbuntuN00b: tar xzf foo.tgz
[11:16] <tylerkn0x> hello
[11:16] <Bateau_> i know. but i dont want to do that :(
[11:16] <thellama> is ubotu a bot?
[11:16] <theeil> uBOTu
[11:16] <HappyFool> Bateau_: something has been installed which is getting in the way of gcc; it's hard to guess what it is remotely, though
[11:17] <thellama> ah heh
[11:17] <flodine> can someone help me get libc6
[11:17] <flodine> need 21
[11:17] <thellama> i get this error on sudo dpkg -i
[11:17] <thellama> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[11:17] <thellama>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[11:17] <thellama>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[11:17] <detzli> is breezy like unstable?
[11:17] <HappyFool> thellama: easiest is probably to enable hoary-backports and install smeg from there
[11:18] <thellama> enable hoary backports?
[11:18] <HappyFool> !backports
[11:18] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:18] <urbanfox> how hard is it to update a system to breezy?
[11:18] <thellama> ah thanks
[11:18] <HappyFool> breezy is not recommended for end-users
[11:18] <urbanfox> can I just add the breezy repositories, update, and dist-upgrade?
[11:19] <urbanfox> HappyFool> I understand that... this is my secondary system
[11:19] <urbanfox> my main system (my laptop) is staying Hoary until release of Breezy
[11:19] <lathropwells> Hi - Eagerly adding my first ATI  All-In-Wonder card.  no success with enabling acceleration following the wiki binary driver howto fglrx isn't added to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  my system 386 kernel 9800 ati
[11:19] <HappyFool> urbanfox: replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and away you go
[11:19] <pirast> hey
[11:19] <urbanfox> HappyFool> thanks
[11:19] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I remove the "grippers" on the edge of a non-expanded panel? You know, the edges that have the horizontal lines going from top to bottom.
[11:19] <UbuntuN00b> Is there anyway to use Macromedia Dreamweaver on Ub?
[11:19] <pirast> i try to get ubuntu-calender to work under breezy but it doesn't works. I can't select the "ubuntu-calender" background :-/ pls help me
[11:19] <styles`> ive tried installing ubuntu but run into a problem with grub, the installations automated process for grub doesnt configure it correctly, my question is how do i have grub boot my linux system manually
[11:20] <lukus001> can somone help me get my microphone working please?
[11:21] <hamourabi> back sorry
[11:21] <h17m4n> lathropwells
[11:21] <lathropwells> Hi! :)
[11:21] <h17m4n> follow thishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:21] <misfit_toy> hmm, I just remembered an issue I have on my ubuntu box at work...can't use CVS to grab E17, is the only answer to have the firewall open CVS ports? I get "connection refused" from sourceforge.
[11:21] <UbuntuN00b> WHy can't I move a file from my home directory to the bin directory in the usr folder?
[11:21] <h17m4n> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=5&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:21] <lathropwells> EXCELLENT! - many thanks. :)
[11:21] <h17m4n> I was having problems with that wiki
[11:22] <urbanfox> should I log out of X while I do this, HappyFool
[11:22] <h17m4n> and I got it done in 5 mins following that howto
[11:22] <HappyFool> urbanfox: i don't know, i've never done it
[11:22] <lathropwells> !ubotu ati is also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:22] <ubotu> okay, lathropwells
[11:22] <UbuntuN00b> WHy can't I move a file from my home directory to the bin directory in the usr folder?
[11:22] <HappyFool> urbanfox: i would guess it's not necessary; obviously you'll eventually need to reboot
[11:22] <urbanfox> of course
[11:24] <hamourabi> HappyFool, I got many xmms* ...
[11:24] <kspath> did you sudo ~/filename /usr/bin/filename  ?
[11:24] <HappyFool> hamourabi: just plain 'xmms' should be fine
[11:24] <thellama> i need python-xdg for smeg but it doesn't show up in synaptic
[11:24] <D1> could anyone tell me how I'd add to to my apt sources list?
[11:24] <thellama> 0.14
[11:24] <D1> http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/
[11:25] <hamourabi> I tried to mark as installed one of them.. but it say  Depends: xmms (>=1.2) but it is not installable
[11:25] <kspath> Ubuntu: I misread your question
[11:25] <D1> I mean, the syntax
[11:25] <hamourabi> where in plain?
[11:25] <hamourabi> desktop you mean ?
[11:25] <pirast> !restricted
[11:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:25] <kspath> Ubuntu: sudo ls -la /usr/bin/
[11:25] <pirast> ups
[11:26] <HappyFool> hamourabi: i mean simply 'xmms'
[11:26] <kspath> UbuntuN00b: sudo ls -la /usr/bin/ | less
[11:26] <HappyFool> hamourabi: not 'xmms-alarm' or whatever
[11:26] <HappyFool> hamourabi: have you enabled 'main' yet?
[11:26] <kspath> UbuntuN00b: do you need to be "in" the /usr/bin/ dir ?
[11:26] <hamourabi> HappyFool, dunno what you mean by main :(
[11:26] <HappyFool> hamourabi: it's one of the repositories
[11:27] <HappyFool> hamourabi: main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[11:27] <HappyFool> hamourabi: read the repositories page on the wiki again, and make sure main is enabled
[11:27] <kspath> UbuntuN00b: did you sudo cp ~/filename /usr/bin/filename  ?
[11:27] <HappyFool> hamourabi: i'm afraid i must be off to bed
[11:28] <HappyFool> i hope someone else here will be able to help
[11:28] <meeep> if i want kubuntu on my ubuntu-os, do i have to re-install everything?
[11:28] <kspath> UbuntuN00b: make sure you are not overwriting something useful using ls
[11:28] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[11:29] <meeep> !kubuntu
[11:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[11:29] <pnoman> meeep: No, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu. Just did it; works fine
[11:29] <seife> Back on windows
[11:29] <seife> Could not get Network Working on Ubuntu
[11:30] <HaRDaWaY> one question, i have problems with my toshiba satellite m40-145 + ubuntu, acpi not runs, it make conflict with irq11, and if i have active acpi to up and down processor frecuency, network card not runs, anybody can help me please?
[11:30] <meeep> pnoman, do i have to restart ubuntu, how does it work? can i chose between gnome and kde or what?
[11:30] <fadrian> Hi folks.  I'm having problems with my sound.  Namely, there isn't any.  On boot I get the error message /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message: 'alsactl load_state:1326 No sound cards found...'. My system has an intel 815 chipset.
[11:30] <pnoman> meep: No, just log out. Select KDE in session and log in again.
[11:30] <pirast> ubotu tell fadrian about sound
[11:30] <h17m4n> where are the xorg logs placed?
[11:31] <meeep> ty pnoman
[11:31] <pnoman> meeep: You can chose what should be your default, or if you just want to try it out. Good luck.
[11:32] <hamourabi> hmmm
[11:32] <RedGhost> XMMS and MPLAYER crash for me whenever i load a file ? i have reinstalled many times
[11:32] <ffub> hi. i've installed the uplash program in breezy, but there doesn't seem to be any artwork installed
[11:32] <RedGhost> it gives no error, just freezes
[11:32] <ffub> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` gives me: Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[11:32] <h17m4n> how can I view the xorg log files?
[11:33] <Myrtti> I'm rolling my eyes here
[11:33] <Myrtti> I use tar.bz2 to compress my ~/ every sunday night
[11:34] <Myrtti> and I have really big suspicions that it really cannot pack data *that* tight
[11:34] <ffub> h17m4n: they're stored in /var/log as text files
[11:34] <Myrtti> but I guess I have to believe it now
[11:34] <urbanfox> Myrtti: is all your data text and/or bunch of small files?
[11:34] <Myrtti> not all
[11:34] <Myrtti> but 1.2G --> 756M seems too good to be true
[11:35] <urbanfox> I've got a lot of redundant data on my disk... so usually my 100G compresses to around 60 GB
[11:35] <urbanfox> nah, that sounds about right
[11:35] <urbanfox> the more data you have the better the compression ratio :)
[11:35] <h17m4n> thank you ffub
[11:35] <Unit134679> i need help with my GRUB. i cant install GRUB onto my MBR
[11:35] <Unit134679> or my previous MBR
[11:38] <Myrtti> o.0 it really did pack it that tight
[11:38] <Myrtti> \o/
[11:38] <stoeptegel> when i move files on ext3 to another directory it takes ages, in ntfs i was used to get it done in a few secs. Is there something wrong with my setup?
[11:39] <hamourabi> hi
[11:40] <Bubblefly> What can I use to crc check a file?
[11:40] <nightswim> csv
[11:41] <hamourabi> i try to open vcd on Totem movie hi say There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to keep a directory on a second drive synced with some directory on my primary drive, so that my music files will always have a current backup without my having to periodically overwrite the entire directory with thousands of files, over-writing a lot of valid data?
[11:41] <bun2> I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio card, I have installed all codecs but when I play any sound file (mp3,wav ...) I get sound of 'damaged file'. How to fix this ?
[11:43] <damneinstien> hello.. i need help with file sharing between ubuntu and winxp. i set up samba and i **thought** i properly configured it with the username and addition of home directory but in windows I can't access the share (it says that I dont have rights to access the share). even with another ubuntu box i cant access the share. i can ping to and from all my computers. any ideas?
[11:43] <pnoman> BROKEN_LADDER: Hm... not sure, but if it were on another machine, I'd look into rsync and rdiff.
[11:44] <pnoman> damneinstien: Did you smbpasswd -a username the users you want to log in? Just a thought...
[11:44] <hamourabi> hello
[11:44] <hamourabi> i need hellp
[11:45] <Blissex> BROKEN_LADDER: yes.
[11:45] <damneinstien> pnoman: yes
[11:45] <damneinstien> pnoman: well, I added my ubuntu username and another password if thats what you mean
[11:45] <bun2> can somebody help me ?
[11:46] <damneinstien> bun2: what problem do you have?
[11:46] <pnoman> damneinstien: I meant, did you run the smbpasswd command to create the user properly?
[11:46] <Blissex> BROKEN_LADDER: as <pnoman>says, look at RSYNC.Samba.org and like  WWW.Rsnapshot.org
[11:46] <Blissex> bun2: consider reading this: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...
[11:46] <damneinstien> pnoman: i run smbpasswd as root to add a unix name
[11:47] <Blissex> Bubblefly: depends on the type of CRC.
[11:47] <hamourabi> need some help
[11:47] <Blissex> Bubblefly: look at 'md5sum' or 'sha1sum'
[11:47] <damneinstien> pnoman: i run smbpasswd as root to add my unix username
[11:47] <pnoman> damneinstien: OK, then it must be something else. Did you nmap your external IP to see that Samba is indeed offering the share?
[11:47] <Blissex> hamourabi: consider reading this: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...
[11:47] <damneinstien> pnoman: how would i do that?
[11:47] <bun2> Blissex: yeah, I will but you are still not going to help me
[11:48] <bun2> this is help channel
[11:48] <bun2> but nobody can't help you here
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> whats bash to make input 308-200k.rm into 308-200k.avi in a script?
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> like in a for i in do script
[11:48] <Blissex> hamourabi: as to using CODECs you probably need to find a shady site that offers RPMs of CODECs taken win MS Windows.
[11:48] <FLD> hey where was ati HOWTO
[11:48] <pnoman> damneinstien: Just run "nmap x.y.z.z" being your external side IP (not 127.0.0.1). But if you can see the machine from somewhere else, it must be something else. Samba can be a bit tricky to setup. You edited the smb.conf files by hand or by swat?
[11:48] <Blissex> bun2: the problem is that most people here are not telepathic...
[11:49] <urbanfox> bun2: what do you need help with?
[11:49] <damneinstien> pnoman: should i run the nmap from another workstation?
[11:49] <FLD> hey where was ati HOWTO
[11:49] <urbanfox> I'm waiting for an update and am in console on IRC I have nothing better to do at the moment
[11:49] <FLD> i cant find it
[11:49] <urbanfox> bun2: I'll help if I can.
[11:49] <pnoman> damneinstien: You can do it locally as well. If you can from another PC, you should be able to see the samba server ports open.
[11:49] <bun2> urbanfox: I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio card, I have installed all codecs but when I play any sound file (mp3,wav ...) I get sound of 'damaged file'. How to fix this ?
[11:50] <FLD> found it
[11:50] <transparentdream> Can someone help me with my ATI Radeon 9800 PRO?
[11:50] <urbanfox> what do you mean by sound of 'damage file'?
[11:50] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, depends, what is wrong with it?
[11:50] <damneinstien> pnoman: shouldn't my router not accept ping requests?
[11:50] <mpm2> What Java Programming Environment do you (anyone listening) recommend on Ubuntu?
[11:51] <urbanfox> mpm2: you can use Netbeans
[11:51] <PlanarPlatypus> mpm2, depends what you want from it, I personally use eclipse
[11:51] <urbanfox> I don't know much about it though
[11:51] <bun2> urbanfox: sound of damaged file ... some 'fast forward' effect
[11:51] <urbanfox> bun2: mhm... so the sound is still recognizable, just playing too fast?
[11:51] <mpm2> PlanarPlatypus: eclipse you compiled yourself?  it's not apt-get-able right?
[11:51] <transparentdream> PlanarPlatypus, it doesn;t run like it should, I can't play games or run a screensaver with it
[11:52] <damneinstien> pnoman: I get this response: Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-09-03 16:50 CDT
[11:52] <damneinstien> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0
[11:52] <damneinstien> Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 4.045 seconds
[11:52] <damneinstien> . I think its my router not accepting requests
[11:52] <pnoman> damneinstien: depends on your setup. Strategy for finding the problem is 1) ensure you can access the machine somehow, 2) that it has connection to the right port where samba is running, then 3) check if it gets proper data (ethereal), etc... I'd work from the bottom up.
[11:52] <bun2> urbanfox: yeah
[11:52] <thellama> so i just installed enlightenment via synaptic, now what?
[11:52] <urbanfox> bun2: is this system in question a laptop?
[11:52] <selinium> Seveas: Are you about for a quick question?
[11:52] <pnoman> damneinstien: is that all you get from nmap?
[11:52] <damneinstien> pnoman: yes
[11:52] <bun2> urbanfox: no. PC
[11:53] <urbanfox> hrm...
[11:53] <PlanarPlatypus> mpm2, I just got the download from the eclipse site, it is supposed to be apt-gettable in breezy though see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE?highlight=%28eclipse%29
[11:53] <pnoman> You should get: Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-09-03 23:52 CEST
[11:53] <pnoman> Interesting ports on xxx :
[11:53] <pnoman> (The 1649 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
[11:53] <pnoman> PORT     STATE SERVICE
[11:53] <pnoman> 21/tcp   open  ftp
[11:53] <pnoman> 22/tcp   open  ssh
[11:53] <pnoman> 25/tcp   open  smtp
[11:53] <pnoman> 80/tcp   open  http
[11:53] <pnoman> 110/tcp  open  pop3
[11:53] <pnoman> 139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn
[11:53] <pnoman>  etc...
[11:53] <transparentdream> Where can i get drivers for an ATI readon 9800 PRO?
[11:53] <urbanfox> well, I'd suggest you look through the wiki for your particular card... that's an odd issue indeed. Sounds like Linux is trying to send the audio to the card at either the wrong sampling rate or the internal clock is screwed up
[11:53] <transparentdream> radeon*
[11:53] <chrismy> !lossless
[11:53] <ubotu> chrismy: I don't know
[11:53] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, I assume you are using the graphics accelleration
[11:53] <urbanfox> bun2: sorry that I can't be any more helpful, that's a very odd issue indeed...
[11:53] <chrismy> !parse
[11:53] <ubotu> chrismy: Wish i knew
[11:53] <[hxcl] > is there something wrong with intel 845g chipsets and ubuntu? Ive tried everything, and i cant get my resolution out of 640 x 480
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> pnoman: no phasting
[11:54] <thellama> i just installed enlightenment via synaptic, now how do i log in using it?
[11:54] <transparentdream> PlanarPlatypus, I'm not sure if i am or not, how do I ckeck?
[11:54] <bun2> urbanfox: ok. tnx anyway
[11:54] <pnoman> Gnonthgol: Sorry, what is phasting? Mea culpa...
[11:54] <urbanfox> transparentdream: it should be under sessions in GDM
[11:54] <thellama> urbanfox: it's not
[11:54] <transparentdream> urbanfox, what? whats GDM?
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> transparentdream: I am runing the same card just fine with my uguntu install
[11:54] <urbanfox> oh. ew.
[11:54] <disasm> damneinstien: can you ping the ip of your ubuntu box from another workstation?
[11:55] <Gnonthgol> *ubuntu
[11:55] <D1> hows breezy treating you guys?
[11:55] <urbanfox> transparentdream: the login screen, but apparently that doesn't do it.
[11:55] <urbanfox> transparentdream: I honestly don't know :(
[11:55] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, if you have not changed anything then you probably aren't
[11:55] <FLD> HEY how was the xorg reconf thing
[11:55] <FLD> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[11:55] <FLD> how was it
[11:55] <transparentdream> Gnonthgol, did you have to install and additional drivers? I can;t get it to wokr on screensavers or anything
[11:55] <[hxcl] > anyone? I cant get my resolution out of 640 x 480.. My video card is intel 845g..
[11:56] <Gnonthgol> transparentdream: no aditional drivers
[11:56] <thellama> how do i use enlightenment?
[11:56] <FLD> how can i reconfigure xorg
[11:56] <thellama> it doesnt show up in sessions
[11:56] <damneinstien> disasm: yea.. it seems that the netbios port is open (139, 445)
[11:56] <[hxcl] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <transparentdream> hmmmm
[11:56] <FLD> thx
[11:57] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, but the way you check is you look at what driver you use which is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for a section called "Device"
[11:57] <transparentdream> ok
[11:57] <disasm> [hxcl] : the res is set in your xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) if you look in there, it should have a list of resolutions it tries to use.
[11:58] <[hxcl] > yes
[11:58] <[hxcl] > i know
[11:58] <[hxcl] > doesnt work
[11:58] <[hxcl] > still stuck
[11:58] <damneinstien> pnoman: i get that 139 is open (netbios) and 445 is open (microsoft something) from another computer
[11:58] <disasm> [hxcl] : what happens if you manually change the res? no X at all?
[11:58] <[hxcl] > nope
[11:58] <thellama> how do i log in using enlightenment?
[11:58] <[hxcl] > i tried everything including modelines
[11:58] <thellama> please help!
[11:58] <transparentdream> Section "Device"
[11:58] <transparentdream> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9800
[11:59] <disasm> damneinstien: if the ports open, then samba is running, can you authenticate from the localhost using mount -t smbfs or smbclient?
[11:59] <funkyHat> thellama, click on session under the login box
[11:59] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell thellama about enlightenment
[11:59] <thellama> it doesnt show up funkyHat
[11:59] <noirequus> thellama: you have no optiom to log into enlightenment?
[11:59] <Gnonthgol> transparentdream: "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 SE (RV350 AQ)" for me
[11:59] <FLD> what else do i have to do than: loadkeys fi-latin1 to get finnish keys
[11:59] <thellama> nope
[11:59] <sanitario> does anyone know what will be used as Network Magic in Breezy?
[11:59] <FLD> what was the keymap thing
[11:59] <damneinstien> disasm: actually i found out what the problem is.. its firestarter not letting the other computer access ports...
[11:59] <noirequus> thellama: open a .desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions
[11:59] <thellama> k
[11:59] <apokryphos> thellama: follow the instructions on that thread
[12:00] <noirequus> thellama: use that file as a template for your enlightenment sesssions entry
[12:00] <pnoman> damneinstien: you're good then. Network connections are OK then, so it must be something else.
[12:00] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, that is the right bit, there should be a section marked Driver