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klepasmoin02:54
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klepas:-)03:57
volvoguyhowdy klepas.03:57
klepas:-)03:57
klepashow's it going?03:57
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volvoguyoh, not too bad. i've been in bed most of the day. 03:58
klepasback aches?03:59
volvoguyyeah. rough day. 03:59
klepasdamn04:00
volvoguyi've opted for a tasty shiraz red wine tonight instead of drugs. seems to be working so far. 04:00
klepasfound the most pleasant message in my inbox yesterday04:01
klepas;-)04:01
klepasi did a splash screen for my favourite music manager under KDE - JuK04:01
klepasI sent it to the dev - Scott Wheeler04:01
klepasand he loved it04:01
volvoguycool!04:01
klepaswill be included in KDE 3.5, and possibly 4 as well04:02
klepasthe other cool thing is that JuK never had a splash screen before04:02
klepasso i think i started something here - the next one will be determined via a competition04:02
klepasdid you see - GNOME 2.12 is looking for a new splash?04:03
miketechHi04:03
klepasmoin miketech04:03
volvoguywell, i know ubuntu is going to try to have a new GDM spash screen for Breezy. 04:04
klepasbtw - volvo - you can see it [JuK splash]  - http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/5104:04
klepascool04:05
klepasi'm interested in making the background or something like that04:05
klepasGDM is only the login though - there would have to be a GDM theme and a splash screen04:05
klepasunless i am mistaken04:05
miketechthere is a gnome 2.12. splash screen contest at the moment04:06
klepasyep04:06
klepashttp://art.gnome.org04:06
miketechyup04:06
klepasentries due in today04:06
klepasnot going to make that deadline :-(04:07
volvoguyhowdy miketech.04:08
klepasmiketech: are you putting in an entry?04:08
miketechno04:08
miketechi am not a good artist :)04:08
klepashehe04:08
klepashow about you volvoguy?04:08
volvoguyi'll be working on Ubuntu stuff. probably not Gnome branded artwork though.04:09
klepas:-)04:10
klepasi can't wait for art.ubuntu.com to be up04:10
miketechyeah ive seen the test system04:11
miketechvery nice04:11
volvoguyit's up, more or less. the submissions just aren't making it to the website at the moment.04:11
volvoguyhey miketech, is the art.gnome.org website code alone enough to make the ubuntu repository in your gnome-art app?04:11
miketechhm gnome-art currently only supports one server04:12
miketechif you wanna use it for ubuntu you have to change the url in gnome-art04:12
miketechand copy the xml.php from art.gnome.org04:12
miketechthen it should work04:12
volvoguyok. i wasn't sure if you talked to the MySQL database directly or if we have to wait for all the SOAP stuff you told me about.04:12
miketechcurrently we are using mysql database directly04:13
miketechbut via xml file04:13
miketechon AGO there is a xml.php that returns xml code, that is parsed by gnome-art04:13
klepasi'm going to afk for a while04:13
klepastalk to you guys later04:13
volvoguyoh. that's not a huge change then. i don't know if gnome-art is going to be in the main repository for breezy, but if it is i'll pass along those changes. 04:13
klepascheers04:13
volvoguysee ya later klepas!04:14
miketechcu klepas 04:14
miketechok i can show you, where to change it04:14
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volvoguywill it work if our database isn't generating  an xml file though?04:14
miketechno, xml.php is the interface for gnome-art04:15
volvoguyahh. gotcha. 04:15
miketechits a very simple file04:15
volvoguyok. if it's easy, give me a run through. 04:15
volvoguyi just have ssh access to my breezy machine ATM, but i can demo the GUI later. 04:15
miketechok, you simply have to copy the xml.php from AGO to your server04:15
volvoguylet's see... does wget parse the php file when in grabs it? 04:16
miketechyup04:16
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miketechdo you have cvs access to AGO?04:17
volvoguyno. our server guy is the only one working with AGO directly at the moment. 04:17
miketechok wait04:17
volvoguyif he got the code from CVS though, he might already have it. 04:17
volvoguyyep. there's an xml.php file sitting in the site's root directory.04:18
miketechah ok04:18
miketechah yeah its working *g*04:18
volvoguyi'm *not* a php guru though by any means. do i need to make any changes? 04:19
miketechhm well the problem is:04:19
miketechart.ubuntu.com has different categories04:19
miketechand the categories arent dynamically at the moment04:19
volvoguyyes. 04:19
volvoguyit looks like he added the new categories at the top of the php file already. does that help?04:20
miketechhm no, this means many changes in gnome-art04:20
miketechbecause the current version of gnome-art doesnt support categories dynamically04:21
volvoguyi finally have sudo priviledges on our server. i went almost a week trying to make changes to things before i realized they hadn't given me access yet. 04:21
miketechyou can use your xml file, but i dont know, what will happen04:21
volvoguyooooh. i gotcha.04:21
volvoguywould it be easy for me to grab gnome-art out of cvs and make the changes and compile it myself? 04:22
miketechhm no, there are many changes needed :(04:22
miketechits easy to change the path of the xml file04:23
miketechbut then your categories arent working04:23
volvoguyi see. 04:23
miketechbut you can try it of course04:23
miketechmaybe some categories will work04:23
volvoguyi think the app is only in Ubuntu's universe, so it wouldn't make it into breezy even if it were working correctly. 04:24
miketechah ok04:24
volvoguyok. i'll see what i can do over the weekend. is it in gnome's cvs system?04:24
miketechno04:24
miketechmiketech.net/gnome-art04:24
volvoguyk.04:24
miketechhere you can download the source code04:25
miketechi can tell you what you have to change:04:25
miketechin lib/gnome-art you will find a file:04:25
miketechconfig.rb04:25
volvoguyk04:25
miketechthere is a line:    XML_File = "http://art.gnome.org/xml.php"04:25
miketechchange it to:     XML_File = "http://http://69.60.114.112/xml.php"04:26
miketechoops04:26
miketechhttp://69.60.114.112/xml.php04:26
miketechyou know :)04:26
volvoguy:) yep04:26
miketechthen it should work with the old categories04:26
miketechmaybe backgrounds are working04:26
miketechmaybe some icons04:26
miketechits a ruby script04:27
miketechif you have already installed it you can change the code directly04:27
miketechthe file should be installed in a ruby-dir, maybe /usr/lib/ruby/site-ruby/1.8/gnome-art/config.rb04:27
volvoguyyep. i have it installed. 04:27
volvoguyfound it.04:28
volvoguyk. changed it. 04:31
volvoguymy job for the evening was to submit some artwork, so i probably can't test it until there's some conten there. :)04:32
miketechthere are 3 backgrounds04:32
volvoguyoh. cool. henrik must have been busy today!04:32
miketechbut you should take a look at the xml file04:32
miketechmaybe you have to change some urls in there04:33
miketechreplacing art.gnome.org with your url04:33
volvoguyok. i'll check it out. just changing that one URL didn't seem to do it. 04:33
miketechbut nice to see the art.gnome.org software running04:34
miketechbecause when soap is continue working we simply can migrate it on art.ubuntu.com04:34
volvoguyyeah. i guess henrik has done a good amount of talking to the AGO guys and they're going to keep the sites as similar as possible.04:35
miketechbut currently everyone is on vacation *g*04:35
miketechyup i have read the threads on the mailinglist04:35
volvoguyyes. :) except me who's always on vacation... well, kinda. 04:35
miketechlol04:35
miketechwe have some nice mockups of new gnome-art04:35
miketechbut only mockups04:36
volvoguyi joke - but take my advice. don't ever do anything at a job that could injure you. 04:36
miketechhm04:36
miketechmaybe its too late ...04:36
miketechbut i will remember it for the future :)04:36
volvoguyyou showed me a couple of them, and i passed 'em along to Jeff Waugh (still the "big cheese" as far as art goes). 04:36
volvoguyhehe04:36
miketechi am always working a lot04:37
volvoguyit turns out that i'm probably lucky they've treated me so badly. there's a good chance i'll win a big lawsuit when it's all over. 04:37
miketechhm??04:38
miketechwhat has happened?04:38
volvoguyi know that all the art people i've taled to are excited about the whole "artwork repository" idea. i'm sure it'll make it into ubuntu main eventually.04:38
volvoguyoh, my employer really hassled me about it initially, stopped paying me for a while, sent me to about a half dozen of "their doctors" who all claimed i was fine - and they're still holding back paychecks on weeks that i have end of the week doc appointments. 04:39
miketechuargs04:40
volvoguythey were ready to dump me and send me back to work this week until my doctor told them i'll be needing major surgery that requires a year of recovery time.04:40
miketechsounds terrible04:40
miketechi wish you good luck with your lawsuit04:41
volvoguyit has been, but i think it'll work to my advantage in the end. 04:42
volvoguythanks!04:42
miketechoh i see.. i should go to bed 04:43
miketechhere it is nearly 5 am04:43
volvoguywell hey, i need to go spend some time on my other ubuntu project (the laptop testing team). 04:43
volvoguyperfect timing. :)04:43
miketechoh laptopt testing team?04:43
volvoguyhave a good night. i'll let you know how i get along with gnome-art.04:43
volvoguyyeah. they gave me a laptop to do hardware testing with.04:43
miketechbut top priority is your health04:44
miketechubuntu "only" is a hobby04:44
volvoguyyes. :)04:44
miketechyouve got a laptop??04:44
volvoguythe red wine seems to be effective tonight. :)04:44
miketechlol04:44
volvoguyyeah. Canonical sent me a really new Toshiba laptop.04:44
miketechcanonical has too much money :))04:45
volvoguyreally new meaning it won't work properly even with breezy yet. :)04:45
volvoguyhey, i'm not complaining. :)04:45
miketechoh *g*04:45
miketechhehe :)04:45
volvoguyit means i can work from the couch. 04:45
miketechbut ubuntu is going a good way04:45
miketechi have it installed now too04:46
miketechon my desktop system04:46
volvoguyyes. i really like their whole philosophy - as well as the software - and Mark is a really great guy. 04:46
miketechdo you know him?04:46
volvoguyjust from talking to him on IRC and email. 04:46
miketechah ok04:47
volvoguyi'll make it to a conference one of these days though. 04:47
miketechwell you are really with ubuntu *g*04:47
miketech+ involved04:47
volvoguyyep. i'm sold. it's the first distro i've actually been able to do work with and not just "play" with. 04:48
miketechhehe yeah04:48
volvoguy(and that's after nearly 10 years of Linux involvement)!04:48
miketechand the poeple love it04:49
miketechwe distributed over 1000 cds on the "linux tag" in germany within 4 days04:49
volvoguyexcellent! i just grabbed the knoppix the other day that was released at linux tag. 04:49
miketechah. its a nice way to do some recovery stuff. but i dont like it as a desktop system *g*04:50
volvoguyit *ahem* recognized all the hardware in my laptop. i'm trying to use that to motivate the ubuntu devs. :)04:50
miketechhehe yeah 04:50
volvoguyme too.04:50
miketechthe hardware recognition is really good04:50
miketechbut its bloated04:51
volvoguyyeah. REALLY good. breezy doesn't even recognize that there's a hard drive or video card in my laptop.04:51
miketechnot even the hard drive?04:51
miketechthats hard *g*04:51
volvoguyat least knoppix is really "pretty". i use the DVD often to show off the state of the linux desktop.04:52
volvoguywell, it's an SATA drive connected to a RAID controller. yes. in a laptop. :)04:52
miketechwow :)04:52
volvoguyit'll rock when i finally get Ubuntu installed. :)04:52
miketechcanonical really does have to much money :)04:53
volvoguy:)04:53
miketechi am interested in breez04:53
miketechy04:53
miketechtried to installed it, but didnt boot :)04:53
volvoguyi'm trying to make myself useful enough that they'll want to hire me when my back is fixed. :)04:53
volvoguybreezy is still pretty rough around the edges. 04:53
miketechyou wanna work for canonical?04:53
miketechnice :)04:54
volvoguyi have a fully functioning desktop machine, but it was a hoary to breezy upgrade.04:54
volvoguyi'd love to.04:54
miketechhehe yeah why not04:54
volvoguyespecially if i could move. i always thought i was born on the wrong continent. 04:54
miketechwhere are you coming from?04:54
volvoguyi'm in detroit, michigan, usa.04:55
volvoguyand i drive european cars. :)04:55
miketechah and where is the registered office of canonical?04:55
miketechhehe :) 04:55
volvoguythe isle of man. an island between ireland and england i believe. 04:55
miketechah you dont like usa?04:56
volvoguywell, i don't like detroit. 04:56
miketechthe last time ive been there i was maybe 12 years old :)04:56
miketecha long time ago :)04:57
miketechoh well i really have to go *g*04:57
volvoguythe auto capital of the world and the roads are so bad you hesitate to drive on them sometimes. way too much money around here crammed into way too little space. 04:57
volvoguyah yes. :)04:57
volvoguyhave a good night. :)04:57
miketechthanks :) and good luck! good night04:58
volvoguyg'night. :)04:58
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klepas|afkstill there?06:00
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: why is the ubuntu font not packaged ? it is ! install ttf-ubuntu-title on breezy ;) ROCK AND ROLL
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(klepas/#ubuntu-artwork) :-)06:32
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jsgotangcohey08:29
jsgotangcoi wouldn't want to flood the other channel08:30
jsgotangco:)08:30
klepashey08:30
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volvoguyahh yes. i already got yelled at once in there for going off topic. (if nobody has spoken in 30 minutes, how can 3 sentences be off topic?) :-P08:35
jsgotangcoheh08:36
volvoguyby next week we should have an ubuntu-ized version of the art.gnome.org website up and running. 08:36
volvoguyhopefully we'll get a flood of good artwork that we can quickly tweak and promote as official breezy artwork. 08:37
jsgotangcosure there will be submissions08:37
jsgotangcothe forums has been flooded with that (backgrounds and stuff)08:38
jsgotangcoeven usplash08:38
volvoguyyes. there's a pretty fair amount of ubuntu specific artwork up at gnome-look.org as well. 08:38
volvoguyi think our own art site will be really popular. 08:38
jsgotangcowhere are you hosting it?08:39
volvoguyhonestly, i don't know. a canonical person named Henrik did most of the "porting" and it's set up on a colocated machine instead of at Canonical's facilities. 08:40
volvoguyit's kinda cool to have a sudo account on a production server running Ubuntu. :) i'm stuck with RHEL on my own colo box. 08:43
volvoguywell hey, i'm going to go have a bedtime snack and see if a real WinXP disc works better on this laptop. drop by here anytime though. the more the merrier. :o)08:46
volvoguyg'night all! 08:47
jsgotangcolaters08:48
klepasdrat08:49
klepasjust missed em08:49
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klepasanyone awake at this uncanny hour?11:11
klepas:)11:11
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klepasanyone home?12:56
klepas:(01:00
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JuHi all !10:26
JuI"m looking for the ubuntu logo in svg format...10:26
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lukacuhi Ju! try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork10:53
Ju /o\ sorry one hundred times, google didn't show this one... Thanks for the link...10:58
lukacuno problem11:00
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