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TheMuso.c12:13
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pefbye !12:13
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mxpxpodzul: you're the wlan guy, right?12:43
mxpxpodkernel wlan guy, rather12:43
zulkind of...its on my list to update this weekend..12:44
mxpxpodawesome!12:44
mxpxpodI posted a patch to my bug in bugzilla12:44
zulyeah...i saw...wrong kernel version though :)12:44
mxpxpodah suck12:45
mxpxpodcan't you just change those numbers ;)12:45
zuli have to look at it12:49
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zulmxpxpod, which version did you use?01:13
mxpxpodzul: kernel version?01:13
zulno wlan-ng01:13
mxpxpod0.2.201:14
zulk thanks01:14
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mxpxpodzul: I gotta get going... I don't think you should have any problems with that patch01:34
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wasab1Hey I don't suppose anybody is into computer robotic stuff? I'm looking for some resources. :002:36
lamont-awayKamion: really odd.02:43
lamont-awaymind you, that was just a warning in passing...02:44
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lamontelmo: please sync tmview_1:01.03-12 (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=294375)05:27
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bddebianlamont: I think everyone is dead/asleep :-)06:13
GoIrishhey bddebian :)06:13
bddebianTritium?06:13
GoIrishyep06:13
bddebianHeh06:13
bddebianHowdy06:13
GoIrishhow's it going?06:14
bddebianSlowly as always. You?06:14
lamontbddebian: well, it is a 3-day weekend in the US, and it is 0-dark-30 in the UK06:14
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lamontright... mdz is US, elmo/kamion are UK06:14
lamontelmo: please put csh down on the list of packages to just sync-instead-of-merge post-breezy.  (or pre-breezy, for that matter.... :-)06:15
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development (not support, even with breezy) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion/ | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | Colony 3 is released: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-3/ | PreviewFreeze: no uploads without approval https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HelpingWithBugs | MOM/NDA producing bad diffs
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lamontgda-freetds-provider.h:67: error: syntax error before 'TDSCONNECTINFO'07:11
lamontgda-freetds-provider.h:67: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union07:11
lamontre07:11
lamontew, even07:11
lamont /build/buildd/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/bin/uic -L /build/buildd/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/plugins pixmapfunction.ui -o pixmapfunction.h07:19
lamontmake[4] : *** [pixmapfunction.h]  Bus error07:19
lamontwho made uic do unaligned load/stores, I wonder...07:20
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Lathiatmdz: bah as if its major, it makes half the worlds touchpads unbearable ;p07:37
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pefhi07:44
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lamonthrm... when I enable unaligned loads, then uic segv's.08:04
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jdubGOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!09:25
siretartmorning jdub!09:26
ivoks:/09:26
siretarthi ivoks 09:26
ivokshi siretart 09:26
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zygajordi: ping09:38
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ograjbailey, you broke the CD builds ! any reason that you changed the binary names of ubuntu-docs ? 12:38
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sivangmorning all01:07
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sivangjdub: ping, any news on your side for ubuntu on the pseries ?01:40
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blackmoonhi, how can i compile grub under amd64? when i run ./configure, i've got this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"01:45
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pefhi01:54
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snoogerthi, when i try to compile grub under amd64, i've got this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"....02:05
pefsnoogert: please join #ubuntu and install gcc ;)02:11
Lathiatand don't come whingign when grub broke because your compiling it instead of using the package02:12
Lathiat... please :)02:12
snoogerti've already installed gcc... now i try to join #ubuntu... thanks02:14
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pirrohhello, is there in breezy a known bug about xchat Xlib SHAPE extension?03:38
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mxpxpodis there a reason why I wouldn't have /dev/inotify in breezy?03:56
ajmitchyes, it's not a device node anymore, iirc03:56
mxpxpodreally...03:56
Lathiatyeh03:56
Lathiatit changed03:57
Lathiatso it could be imoprted into the kernel03:57
mxpxpoddoes beagle know this?03:57
Lathiatmine does03:57
ajmitchworks for me03:57
mxpxpodok... I just saw a beagle message about not finding /dev/inotify03:57
Lathiatmight have support for both or something03:57
tsengmxpxpod: there is no /dev/inotify03:57
mxpxpodah, probably03:57
ajmitchmxpxpod: 0.0.12-0ubuntu6 ?03:57
tseng0.0.13 will be fine03:58
mxpxpodyup03:58
tsengif it ever gets here03:58
mxpxpodtseng: hopefully it will have fixed some issues with the FileSystem backend... it seems to like to get stuck on certain files for me03:58
tsengmeh03:59
Lathiatbleh beagle didnt even find a pdf i wanted today it sucks :)03:59
mxpxpodit'll say "what do I do with this file?", "doing nothing", and then it starts the process over again for that same file03:59
mxpxpodLathiat: I've had that problem as well03:59
mxpxpodanyway, thanks for the help04:01
Lathiati hate it when people take stupdi things i say seriously04:03
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bddebianLathiat: :-)04:16
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jbaileyogra: Changed how, sorry?06:06
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ograjbailey, it built ubuntu-quickguide before, which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop now it doesnt06:24
jbaileyOh, hmm.06:25
jbaileyI don't remember seeing that in the old source package.06:25
jbaileyI can correct it if it hasn't been already.06:25
jbaileyHmm.06:26
ograi dont think someone hs yet06:26
jbaileyIs quickguide still included?06:26
jbaileyI think that might be one of the docs that the docteam dropped for Breezy.06:27
jbaileyThere's something called a 'quicktour' now.06:27
ograhmm, probably.... anastacia wants to move ubuntu-doc to universe.... i guess you should change the seeds then06:28
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jbaileyogra: I need to finish sorting out some initramfs/usplash integration bits first.06:31
ograok, i dropped the dependency in edubuntu for now, dont worry06:31
jbaileyI have the stuff mostly written, so it shouldn't be long.  The kernel integration will be amusing.06:32
ograi'll add it back after preview06:32
mptubuntu-doc in universe! *boggle*06:38
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pittiHi07:36
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kronosshi pirroh 07:37
kronosssorry, hi pitti 07:38
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carstenhhi pitti07:44
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zygapitti: hey07:55
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zygahello mvo08:08
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mirakXine on ubuntu breezy crash when you do a right click08:22
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hrvojeany ubuntu developers available ?09:37
CarlFKdurring a hoary install on a compaq armada 1700 P2-266.  dmesg shows "Critical temp reached. shuttind down" and sure enough, shuts down.09:40
CarlFKI have a bunch of fans around it now, and pulled the keyboard out, so I think I will be able to get by09:40
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CarlFKyears ago there was a kernel patch for this problem, but I thought it was part of the kernel now.  anyone want me to reasearch it?09:41
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elvirolohi all10:16
elviroloare, by any chance, python-wxgtk2.6 and gstreamer0.8-musepack broken?10:17
CarlFKhow can I see what options were used to compile the kernel ubuntu uses?10:20
CarlFKnamly I need CONFIG_ACPI_COMPAQ_ARMADA_1700=y10:21
elviroloplease anyone?10:22
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ivokshuh?10:27
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ivoksCarlFK: /proc/config.gz or /boot/config-`uname -r`10:27
ivoksCarlFK: but this is wrong channel for that question10:28
CarlFKkiinda.  if it isn't set I was going to file a bug report10:28
CarlFKbut thanks for the anwer10:28
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elviroloiideas anyone?10:31
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zygapitti: ping10:57
zygapitti: is http://l10n-status.gnome.org/gnome-2.12/pl/desktop/index.html automatically imported here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/pl10:58
zygaanybody here?11:01
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pittizyga: not automatically I think11:05
pittizyga: that needs to find its way through source packages11:05
pittibut that usually happens fast11:05
zygapitti: someone at translators@gnomepl.org (the translation team) mentioned that the deadline is tomorrow11:06
zygapitti: is that the gnome deadline?11:06
pittiyes, I think so11:06
pittiwe will update langpacks later11:06
zygagreat11:06
zygapitti: so once upstream closes you pull the translations again?11:07
pittiyes11:07
pittiwell, I guess the translations will already be in the final gnome 2.12 packages11:07
ivoksi have one idea for breezy+111:08
ivoksit's shouldn't be hard to implement, if you guys like it11:08
ivoksit's great to have this big repository11:09
ivoksbut there are still apps that aren't in it, and will never be (due licenses)11:09
zygapitti: k, so no need for me to manually pull all of those .po files 11:09
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zygapitti: I could just make sure that once rosetta gets updated stuff I can translate ubuntu-only things11:09
pittizyga: no, certainly not11:09
pittizyga: I have a script to pull gnome translations in bulk, in case we need it11:10
ivoksnah... i'll write that down and propose one day...11:10
zygapitti: one last thing, what are the chances of rosetta export working till breezy ships (so that say... for 2.12.1 we can update translations again)11:11
zygaivoks: what packages for example?11:11
ivoksfor example, skype...11:11
ivoksbut that's not important11:11
zygaivoks: well..... 11:12
pittizyga: no percentage here, but it looks not too bad11:12
zygaivoks: kind of a good point11:12
ivoksi tought, maybe we could have local repository after installation11:12
zygaivoks: did you try to contact the dev team?11:12
pittizyga: in any case, even if it works two months after the breezy release, we can still update the breezy langpacks at that time11:12
pittizyga: in fact we will do that anyway11:12
zygapitti: right11:12
ivoksand user would, clicking on deb on internet, copy that deb to that repository11:12
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HiddenWolfivoks, there is a very good reason not to allow that. Security11:13
ivoksthat crossed my mind11:13
HiddenWolfivoks, you'd have to pull in new dependencies too. It'd be a nightmare.11:13
ivoksbut...11:13
HiddenWolfThink about it.11:13
zygaivoks: what would a local repo be good for?11:13
ivoksthat's the idea!11:13
ivoksthis way user wouldn't have to deal with dependency11:13
zygaivoks: is this mainly for skype?11:13
ivoksit would be done automaticly11:13
HiddenWolfSomeone uses warty, and wants to use evince by clicking on the deb on packages.u.c. That'd be a nightmare. :P11:14
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ivokszyga: no, for any other deb that's not in main/restricted/universe/multiverse11:14
zygaivoks: if so I'm sure skype management would love to have a .deb in multiverse or anything 11:14
HiddenWolfivoks, autopackage is there for that kind of problem.11:14
ivokshm...11:14
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ivoksHiddenWolf: thans for reminding me on those problems11:15
ivoksthanks11:16
ivoksah... i'm tierd11:16
ivokstired11:16
ivokswhatever :)11:16
HiddenWolfivoks, no problem. :)11:16
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xTinaI haven't found anything in bugzilla related to this, and no mailing list discussion: Is it on purpose that "Open Terminal" is missing from the menu that appears when right-clicking the Gnome desktop in breezy, or is that a bug that should be reported?11:43
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jgorskiapt-get install nautilus-open-terminal11:48
jgorskiseems to be intentional behaviour11:49
HrdwrBoBso the only place to open a terminal is buried in the system menu ?11:51
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