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noirequusapokryphos: there's a thread?12:00
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, what does that say?12:00
transparentdreamhold on12:00
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apokryphosnoirequus: indeed; notes the nooms repository etc too12:00
apokryphosnoirequus: hi, by the way =)12:00
pnomandamneinstien: What does smbclient -L '\\server-name\' give you (you need to enter a password also for this to work)12:00
transparentdreamDriver"ati"12:00
transparentdreamBusID"PCI:1:0:0"12:00
disasmdamneinstien: ah, firewall ;-) firestarter work pretty good? i've never used any of the gui firewalls12:00
noirequusfixin to go to  work12:00
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Gnonthgoltransparentdream: the same with mine12:00
thellamai opened /usr/share/xsessions... now what?12:01
transparentdreamhmmmm12:01
transparentdreamwell wjhy cant i run games then?12:01
damneinstiendisasm: well, firestarters pretty good but i dont seem to be able to add a rule to allow incoming/outgoing conection from samba12:01
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, that looks like it should work but not give you any accelleration.  What do you mean when you say you can't run games?12:01
apokryphosthellama: please check the thread you were provided with; it will walk you through exactly what you have to put in etc12:01
damneinstienpnoman: actually i found out what the problem is.. its firestarter not letting the other computer access ports...12:01
transparentdreami mean any sort of acceleration. Gnometris works, etc. but nothing like tuxracer12:02
damneinstienpnoman: but i can't add a rule to let other computers access smb client. (all rule options are grayed out)12:02
pnomandamneinstien: Good... that was what we were about to test, by going down and up. Congrats!12:02
transparentdreamscreen savers are very very slow and freeze up12:02
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pnomandamneinstien: Sorry, cannot help you with the firewall (am not using that one here). And I have to go anyway; still work to do and it's getting late here. Sorry... but good luck.12:03
damneinstienpnoman: thanks for ur help : )12:03
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, in that case you might well want to install the ATI fglrx driver, gimme a mo on that one12:04
pnomandamneinstien: cu.12:04
steinHi! What key stops the boot timeout in the grub boot menu ? I set a very short timeout and it always goes into the default selection, I can select the others...12:04
urbanfoxstein: Escape12:04
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transparentdreammo?12:04
urbanfoxand any key stops the menu timeout12:04
steinurbanfox: sure? I tries holding it and it did not work.12:04
urbanfoxdon't hold12:04
urbanfoxpress12:04
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urbanfoxtap12:04
urbanfoxit needs to see a change in keystate I believe12:04
steinwhen ? I said I have a very short timeout. The monitor is dark, because of the reolution switch12:05
urbanfoxjust keep tapping the up and down keys12:05
steintried that too :-)12:05
urbanfoxhrm12:05
urbanfoxthat's odd12:05
steinOK, I'll try again :-(12:05
mcphail#join ##linux12:06
damneinstiendisasm: what firewall do you use?12:06
steinmcphail: talking to me ? I was there, no help.12:06
PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, moment, I think this might be what you are looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28fglrx%2912:06
mcphailnope - slip of the key12:06
GnonthgolPlanarPlatypus: thanks12:06
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steinbye12:07
PlanarPlatypusGnonthgol, no problem :-)12:07
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transparentdreamThank you! I'll let you know when i install it12:07
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disasmdamneinstien: it should have something to do with policy in the firestarter page (I have my own custom iptables script running on my servers, and my desktops/laptops i don't bother running a firewall12:10
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geneo93disasm:  did you use ipkungfu12:11
disasmgeneo93: no i haven't, whats it?12:11
juanejWhy im getting "ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms." when using quod libet?12:11
FR500hello12:12
FR500has anyone been able to compile bmpx?12:12
geneo93its for setting up iptables12:12
crimsunsure12:12
crimsunbmpx compiles fine under breezy12:12
PlanarPlatypusjuanej, do you know what motherboard and ethernet card you have?12:13
juanejPlanarPlatypus, Pcchips for motherboard and a sis etherenet card12:13
pefbye !12:13
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transparentdreamAHH12:15
transparentdreamok12:15
transparentdreamthe driver works12:15
transparentdreambut i cant change screen resolution now12:15
geneo93man you have to love mplayer playing file i'm dling from bt and it just skips to next piece12:16
PlanarPlatypusjuanej, what sound card?12:16
juanejsis 701812:16
transparentdreamPlanarPlatypus, this is what it says when i try to change the screen resolution now12:16
transparentdreamThe X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.12:16
D1where are these bmpx skins coming from?12:18
PlanarPlatypusjuanej, not sure then I am afraid, the only problem I had like that was with a VIA onboard soundcard and was apparently a kernel bug, seems to be fixed now though so I am afraid I have no idea12:18
geneo93xmms are the same skins12:18
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PlanarPlatypustransparentdream, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5357 says it better than I can12:19
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geneo93winamp 2 skins work also12:20
urbanfoxthey do?12:20
styles`can someone help me out12:20
transparentdreamok thx12:20
styles`im trying to install ubuntu but it configures grub wrong12:21
geneo93yes12:21
styles`i need to manually edit grub.conf but have no idea how to get to it since it isnt booting12:21
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geneo93styles`:  use the live cd12:21
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PlanarPlatypusdoes anyone know if there is a way to get evolution to apply filters to all messages in a given folder rather than just to the incoming messages12:22
styles`geneo93, i am using the live cd i think12:23
styles`lol12:23
styles`which one is the live cd12:23
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geneo93hehe just forward them all to yourself12:23
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D1new breezy splash screen is kinda iffy12:24
D1too dark12:24
geneo93the one that says it is12:24
z0undshow do i start bittornado from console??12:24
PlanarPlatypusgeneo93, heh, the idea is tempting but hopefully there is a better way of doing it12:25
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styles`geneo93, im dwonloading the livecd as we speak, will the livecd allow me to install ubuntu?12:25
Stalwartno12:25
Stalwartyou need install cd to set up ubu to your computer12:25
styles`will it let me edit grub.conf?12:25
geneo93PlanarPlatypus:  not that i know of12:25
StalwartStalwart, yes, it will do12:26
geneo93styles`:  no12:26
styles`grrrrrr12:26
Stalwartgeneo93, ?12:26
styles`ok so how can i fix grub12:26
thrush_2D1, you dont want to keep the reg splashcreen anyway, personalize your computer man =)12:26
geneo93yes to second question12:26
styles`uhmmmmmmmmmm12:26
styles`sooo12:26
styles`the live cd will allow me to edit the current filesystem that ubuntu has installed12:27
styles`?12:27
Stalwartstyles`, yes12:27
styles`ok thanks12:27
styles`guys confused me there for a sec12:27
styles`yes no yes no12:27
styles`lol12:27
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geneo93styles`:  you cnat install with livecd and you can edit grub with it12:27
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styles`ok12:27
styles`hopefully i get it to work12:27
geneo93styles`:  ask one question at a time12:27
styles`i hate grub so bad12:27
styles`answer one question at a time =P12:28
jroeshi, does anyone know how I can allow multiple simultaneous X users to login?12:28
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geneo93i did12:28
jroesfor instance, instead of me logging out to let a friend on, I can "switch user" to them12:28
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geneo93jroes:  i can do that in some distros dont know about ubuntu12:29
jroesit's probably not distro-specific.  I'm betting it has something to do with my wm12:29
benplaut!menu12:30
ubotubenplaut: What?12:30
PlanarPlatypusgeneo93, ah, the problem being that there are about 500 of them......12:30
geneo93jroes:  that could be12:30
disasmgeneo93: ipkungfu looks ok, i don't like any firewall that locks me out of all networking, even after I uninstall it, but it might not be bad for someone not familiar with iptables. doesn't appear to have any ipsec vpn support though12:30
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geneo93PlanarPlatypus:  i only use 4 here12:30
meeepgeez, kde is horrid, back to gnome for me :O12:30
GranMaestromeeep: I couldn't agree more :D12:31
jroesgeneo93: assuming that's the case, how do you normally configure this?12:31
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geneo93meeep:  turn all the crap off12:31
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meeepGranMaestro, geez, i really DID try it out, but hell, wtf, geez, omfg ( im so upset right now :P )12:31
thrice`anyone running breezy and ATI ?12:31
PlanarPlatypusgeneo93,I mean mail messages, I am currently looking for a bulk forward but I am thinking this is not the best idea12:31
Stalwartwill ubuntu somewhen have minimum install?12:32
geneo93click on menu and switch users12:32
FLDHEY tell me MP3 player that works in console12:32
StalwartFLD, mpg12312:32
geneo93PlanarPlatypus:  i was j/k12:32
FLDStalwart didint fint in apt-get12:32
StalwartFLD, mpg32112:32
PlanarPlatypusgeneo93, ah12:32
PlanarPlatypusgeneo93, heh, fair enough12:32
PlanarPlatypusI just achieved the same thing with vfolders infact12:33
PlanarPlatypusso no worries12:33
thrush_2Stalwart, you mean other than server install?12:33
delireFLD: 'play'12:33
geneo93i have done that before just for spamassin12:33
FLDtell me MP3 player that works in console and is at apt-get12:33
delireFLD: of course that's not a jukebox. i like pytone very much12:34
FLDnot in apt-get12:34
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FLDno mpg321 or pytone12:34
delireFLD: it takes 10 minutes to go through a few hundred mp3's but once it's built a database it's worth it.12:34
apokryphos!info mpg32112:35
delireFLD: perhaps in universe/multiverse12:35
Stalwartthrush_2, yes, like server, but lighter12:35
ubotumpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 128 kB12:35
geneo93FLD:  then you dont have all the repos enabled12:35
apokryphosFLD: it's in Universe. Enable the repository, and you're good to go.12:35
FLDwtf12:35
FLDwhat repository12:35
apokryphos!repositories12:35
FLDhow12:35
ubotuI guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:35
disasmPlanarPlatypus: i've never used evolution, but is there something like run filters in a menu somewhere?12:35
FLDi dont have mozilla12:35
FLDi cant look12:35
apokryphosFLD: you don't have any browser?12:35
FLDno i dont12:35
GranMaestroHi everybody, pls don't bash me for asking but.. what is the actual developer release for Ubuntu?12:36
FLDi dont have graphics12:36
apokryphosFLD: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line with "Universe" in it.12:36
apokryphos:/12:36
FLDok12:36
StalwartGranMaestro, Breezy Colony 312:36
GranMaestroStalwart: where can I get a copy?12:36
apokryphosStalwart: not Colony 3, of course12:36
StalwartGranMaestro, 3 sec12:36
apokryphosand you can get later builds12:36
benplaut!breezy12:36
ubotumethinks breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/12:36
PlanarPlatypusdisasm, unfortunately no but the effect can be achieved with a vfolder and just performing the action on everything in there12:36
benplautnope12:36
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GranMaestrotahks a ton folks.. :D12:36
apokryphosGranMaestro: it's not recommended that you install it...12:37
apokryphosbut: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com (you can grab a daily build from there)12:37
GranMaestroapokryphos: very buggy?12:37
thrush_2FLD you have lynx?12:37
froggy365i have a compaq R4000 with an amd 64, but it just goes to a black screen after about 10 seconds12:37
apokryphosGranMaestro: at times; you can muck up your system.12:37
disasmPlanarPlatypus: well, what format is the mail in? if it's mbox you could probly write a short procmail script to filter it one time only12:37
benplauthow do i start another xserver in tty8? [breezy] 12:37
froggy365cant get it do run live cd12:37
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Stormx2 /quit and /exit were sitting in a park. /exit left, so who was still sitting in the park?12:37
disasmbenplaut: startx -- :112:37
benplauti mean, having 2 at once12:38
GranMaestroapokryphos: I have been using Ubuntu from the early days and prior to that Debian on my x486.. :D12:38
froggy365guys can you help me get it started12:38
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PlanarPlatypusdisasm, it is in whatever format evolution stores its mail in right now but I did managed to do the filtering with vfolders so all is happy and shiny again12:38
apokryphosGranMaestro: up to you, of course. If you don't know what you're doing you'll run into problems. Most these days are X-related.12:38
apokryphosGranMaestro: the respective packages haven't exactly been, perfected shall we say.12:39
delirefroggy365: what's up?12:39
delirefroggy365: not booting?12:39
froggy365i put the cd in to boot12:39
froggy365and it finds it12:39
froggy365i press enter12:39
froggy365then it goes through the white text12:39
disasmfroggy365: does it boot the cd? if so, maybe try passing parameters like nousb noacpi nopcmcia, etc...12:39
froggy365and then goes black12:39
FLDhow do i set mpg321 use alsa12:39
froggy365it sees the cd12:39
delirefroggy365: ouch12:39
froggy365how do i use parameters?12:40
disasmfroggy365: also i think the number 2 should get you at a bash prompt so you can see if it's X or not12:40
GranMaestroapokryphos: OK I shall wait than, just wanted to have a look at it. Today I booted from Hoary PPC live CD on my iMac and was real impressed about how everything went on real smooth12:40
disasmi dunno, is it linux for the livecd kernel?12:40
froggy365okay im at where it says boot:12:40
delirefroggy365: when you see the boot prompt use the key mentioned for other options.12:40
apokryphosGranMaestro: nice =)12:40
FLDhow do i set mpg321 use alsa?12:40
disasmtry typing linux noacpi nousb nopcmcia 212:40
froggy365yea i see other options12:40
froggy365okay12:41
GranMaestroapokryphos: even Airport detection and WEP encryprion were no problem at all .. ;-)12:41
apokryphosFLD: did you make *any* effort to find out?12:41
disasmor maybe it's ubuntu, not sure what the kernel name is on the live cd...12:41
froggy365lucky i have this computer right next to me12:41
apokryphosFLD: i.e. the man page12:41
D1yay! the networkmanager package works in breezy! =] 12:41
D1<3 ubuntu12:41
FLDapokryphos yes i did12:41
FLDi did mpg321 -a N alsa12:41
FLDand it didnt work12:41
froggy365it says could not find kernel image: linux12:42
disasmwhats the difference between mpg123 and mpg321?12:42
disasmhmm, in the options does it tell you the kernel image name?12:42
apokryphosFLD: devicetype?12:42
FLDi donnoo12:42
FLDalsamixer works12:42
dalamarone plays mp3s forward the other plays them backward12:42
GranMaestroapokryphos: sorry to bother, where can I find some info as for the goals set for breezy?12:42
dalamar;)12:42
geneo93dalamar:  haha12:43
apokryphos!breezygoals12:43
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, apokryphos12:43
FLDlets try alsaplayer12:43
FLDmpg321 suc12:43
apokryphosubotu: breezygoals is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals12:43
ubotuapokryphos: okay12:43
apokryphosGranMaestro: there :)12:43
apokryphosGranMaestro: also check the !breezy factoid... it will provide you with a link for the differences between hoary and breezy12:44
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disasmFLD: i just did mpg321 -o alsa <name_of_mp3>12:45
Stalwart!breezy factoid12:45
ubotuStalwart: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:45
Stalwartubotu, yes12:45
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, stalwart?12:45
apokryphosStalwart: omit the "factoid"12:45
Stalwart?12:45
apokryphos!breezy12:45
ubotubreezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/12:45
apokryphos(is the "breezy" factoid)12:46
dalamaroctober 1st or what?12:46
apokryphos13th12:46
dalamari see12:46
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GranMaestro!breezy factoid12:46
ubotuGranMaestro: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:46
dalamar...12:46
Stormx2haha12:46
Xanthus7what is ubuntu 5.04 powerpc12:46
GranMaestroubotu: :D12:46
ubotuGranMaestro: Are you on ritalin?12:46
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Stormx2!botsnack12:47
ubotuthanks stormx2 :)12:47
dalamarXandriX, ubuntu hoary for macs12:47
dalamaror powerpc based systems12:47
Xanthus7ok12:47
froggy365tried all that stuff, you have to type live at the beginning tho instead of linux12:47
froggy365but it goes black12:47
apokryphosGranMaestro: no "factoid" needed, of course.12:47
GranMaestroyup yup thaks folks12:47
froggy365what if id try the non amd-64 version?12:48
GranMaestro!breezy12:48
Xanthus7can some one give that web address for fixing grub again12:48
dalamarcant wait for breezy and newer libc .. have been tempted to try it but everything works now heh12:48
Xanthus7I know there is qt4 in breezy I need that for a program to run12:48
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FLDHEY how do you start alsaplayer to textmode12:50
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Stormx2start it in terminal?12:52
disasmFLD: i don't think you can12:53
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FLDdisasm well i fucking apt-getted alsaplayer-text12:53
FLDso i can12:53
FLD:<12:53
pauldaousthey, folks... I'm looking for some LAN-savvy people here...12:53
geneo93alsaplayer (file)12:53
disasmah, alsaplayer-text ;-)12:53
apokryphosFLD: language, please.12:53
FLDits not alsaplayer-text12:53
FLDmpg321 does not have interface12:53
pauldaoustI've read a lot about single-sign-on and LDAP and Radius and Kerberos and Active Directory... but I'm wondering, which of these would *you* use?12:54
disasmFLD: yup that does the trick ;-)12:54
Stormx2!botsnack12:54
ubotu:)12:54
FR500hello12:54
disasmFLD: apt-get remove alsaplayer-gtk12:54
pauldaoustI'm deploying a school-wide Ubuntu network (yep, every computer Ubuntu except the secretary and the principal), and I want kids to be able to access their account at any computer.12:54
apokryphosFR500: aloha!12:54
FR500is usplash better than splashy?12:54
pauldaoustwould anyone be able to recommend the best way? I'm thinking pam_ldap or pam_sql12:55
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pauldaoust(I'm more familiar with SQL, and I can't seem to get OpenLDAP working properly on Ubuntu)12:55
apokryphosFR500: I thought they were the same thing :/12:55
apokryphosjust different versions12:55
pauldaoustFR500: where'd you get your nick?12:55
FR500oh12:55
pauldaoustlooks familiar12:55
FR500pauldaoust: it's a car12:55
apokryphosBreezy is going to use usplash, apparently.12:56
FR500a 302 sn95 Mustang concept12:56
disasmpauldaoust: is this using ltsp?12:56
pauldaoustFR500: ahhhhhh gotcha. just asking 'cuz at RadioShack we sell a radio called FR50012:56
FR500apokryphos: ok!12:56
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pauldaoustdisasm: naw... I had the idea that LTSP was just for thin clients (i.e., without sound or moving video)12:56
pauldaoustdisasm: am I wrong?12:56
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FR500apokryphos: i thought usplash was more like the gentoo live cd thing, with that gorgeous splash boot, splashy can't have animations and things alike yet afail12:57
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disasmyou can have sound i believe, i haven't messed with it yet, but i've been considering setting it up, and having an old laptop in the kitchen as a client12:57
apokryphosFR500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//USplash12:58
FR500pauldaoust: i dont' really now about what you wanna do but sounds interesting, what do you mean by accounts (what does account include for instance)12:58
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FR500or it's just the login name12:58
Stormx2Why is the ubuntu wiki secure?12:58
disasmpauldaoust: id say audio works - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A//www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165&ei=gyoaQ6f-CrrIigHioPjbCw12:58
disasmerrr, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/816512:59
pauldaoustdisasm: hey, that's pretty nifty12:59
pauldaoustdisasm: hmmmm... I'm looking at LTSP, and thinking, the server is pretty low-powered too... as low-powered as all the other clients.01:00
disasmpauldaoust: you sound pretty intelligent? ever setup a postfix mail server with amavis? I'm having problems with spamassin not leaving headers (but it appears to be running)01:00
disasmpauldaoust: ah, yeah, that would be a reason not to do ltsp01:00
pauldaoustdisasm: I think I'll just stick to centralised authentication for now.01:00
pauldaoustdisasm: postfix with amavis... yeah... I did... once upon a time. But I used it with a program called Bogofilter, as opposed to SpamAssassin01:01
fadrianI've tracked my sound problem to the issue where the system isn't seeing any sound device on my intel 815 chipset.  The output from lspci should have both an AC97 compatible sound device at pci addr 1f.5 and a model at 1f.6, but neither of these are showing up.  Any clues?  Here's the lspci output:0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)01:01
fadrian0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 04)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 05)01:01
fadrian0000:01:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)01:01
fadrian0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)01:01
disasmpauldaoust: something like this? http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/pamnss.shtml01:01
pauldaoustfadrian: best to paste that info into the #flood channel01:01
LebanonI've heard you ship ubuntu cd's to my home ?01:01
disasmfadrian: can you please not paste?01:01
fadrianOK.  Sorry01:02
fadriandidn't know01:02
thrush_2guys anyone know offhand what repo flashplugin-nonfree is in? checked universe and multiverse01:02
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pauldaoustdisasm: do you mean that SpamAssassin doesn't add the spam-specific headers? or are you wanting it to rewrite the subject header?01:02
ompaulAFKfadrian, or use pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl01:02
pauldaoustdisasm: or does SA just strip headers out entirely?!01:02
disasmpauldaoust: spam-specific headers01:02
pauldaoustdisasm: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm01:03
apokryphosfadrian: read the /topic before you talk in a channel01:03
fadrianthanks for the pointer.  I will do so...01:03
thrush_2well universe01:03
thrush_2nm01:03
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pauldaoustdisasm: can you paste the contents of your spamassassin config file?01:04
disasmpauldaoust: this shows fine, but no spam: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at mlnai.com01:04
pauldaoustdisasm: (to a pastebin of course ;) )01:04
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pauldaoustdisasm: that thingy you sent me is just what I'm looking for... now if only I could get OpenLDAP to work :-/01:05
disasmpauldaoust: it's completely commented, if I run spamassin <message> I get the correct headers, but amavis isn't getting it, you want me to paste my amavis config to pastebin?01:05
pauldaoustdisasm: sure thing01:05
pauldaoustdisasm: you're using amavisd for mail processing, rather than virus scanning, right?01:06
FR500apokryphos: do you think is installing the live dvd bootsplash too hard?01:07
disasmpauldaoust: yeah01:07
apokryphosFR500: eh?01:07
pauldaoustdisasm: did you paste it into #flood?01:08
FR500apokryphos: splashy is nowhere as good eye candy as most live cd's bootsplashes01:08
apokryphosFR500: like which ones?01:08
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disasmpauldaoust: http://pastebin.com/35400701:08
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FR500apokryphos: for instance the gentoo one, also there is fc3 boot, it has a hideous theme but the whole idea is pretty good01:09
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pauldaoustdisasm: so you're pretty sure that it's amavisd and not some other part of the e-mail plumbing that's eating the headers?01:10
volvoguyquick question. i have an older server that someone gave me that has two SCSI drives in it. i left win2k (or whatever they had) on one, and installed hoary on the other. how easy is it these days to boot from software raid1 array if i decide to set that up?01:10
Riskbreaker9can someone help me figure out why totem movie player refuses to run on my compy?01:10
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fadrianOK... Sorry about the etiquette FU.  Again, I'm not seeing PCI devices that should be sitting on my PCI bus past address 1f.4.  There should be an audio device on .5 and a modem on .6.  I have pasted the output of lspci, lspci -v, and lspci -vvv into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1880.  Any clues?01:10
apokryphosFR500: the gentoo one is..erm, colourful text01:10
FR500apokryphos: well yeah i guess it doesnt even use fb, but you don't see the text normally :D01:11
Riskbreaker9whenever i try to start it up, it gives me an error message saying "resource busy or not available.01:11
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disasmpauldaoust: pretty sure01:12
Riskbreaker9doesn't seem like the docs or the webpage has anything that could help me fix that.01:12
Fotinakishello all -- quick question: I came across some information that says that Ubuntu comes with 3180 packages by default, and maximally 16271.  Where are the rest of these packages? Is there an ISO somewhere to download or is it totally by apt?01:13
pauldaoustdisasm: this is weird, this line here> $sa_tag_level_deflt = -999;01:13
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fadrianMy gut feel is that there's something in the usb system that's FU'ed and blocking anything past that because when I try to plug in a USB stick it doesn't seem to see that either...01:13
pauldaoustdisasm: almost looks like amavis is able to tell SpamAssassin to not even bother rewriting or adding tags underneath a certain level. Try changing that line (incidentally, it's line 1121) and see what happens.01:14
pauldaoustdisasm: (change the line to $sa_tag_level_deflt = 5.0 , which is a number that works great for me)01:14
disasmpauldaoust: here is a snippet from my log file: http://pastebin.com/35401201:14
Lebanonguys you know how much it will take time so the cds will be shipped?01:14
Riskbreaker9no one knows anything about this?01:15
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LebanonI can make an agent for you, heh, I have a netcafe many ppl comes in here ..01:15
disasmpauldaoust: i originally had it at 5.0, and found a page on-line saying to set it to -999 for troubleshooting01:15
pauldaoustdisasm: hmmmmmmmm!01:15
volvoguyLebanon, I still haven't received my Hoary CD's, so it's hard telling.01:15
pauldaoustso you've tried that b401:15
disasmyeah01:15
pauldaoustLebanon: it took over a month to receive them; I'm in Canada01:15
Fotinakisanyone? (see question above) where to get the rest of the ubuntu packages?01:15
volvoguyFotinakis, all the extra software you're referring to is in the universe repository, accessible via apt or synaptic.01:16
pauldaoustdisasm: I'm scratching my head here... hm01:16
Fotinakisty01:16
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pauldaoustdisasm: your logfile doesn't seem to imply that it's having any problems... and it also occurs to me that, if $sa_tag_level_deflt is set to a low number, it will paste info tags into any message, regardless of whether it's spam or not (it'll just show the score). Maybe try $sa_tag_level_deflt = 0.0; ?01:18
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FR500i get this error when running apt-get update:01:19
FR500W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>01:19
FR500how can i fix it?01:19
MrNighthello01:19
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MrNighthttp://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ << is this website official01:19
FR500MrNight: yes01:19
MrNightso the order is real ?01:20
FR500yes01:20
FR500and free01:20
FR500yes01:20
pauldaoustdisasm: my suspicion is that amavis isn't even feeding messages to SA at all01:20
MrNightwhen I must expect to receive the CDS ? :D01:20
funkyHat_depends01:20
pauldaoustdisasm: but I'm a little bewildered at the lack of error messages which would appear if amavis couldn't find SA, so maybe it's not even trying to use SA01:20
funkyHat_mine took about 2 months :P01:20
pauldaoustMrNight: same here01:20
MrNightok01:21
Fotinakisis there a web site to browse the universe repository?01:21
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MrNightI hope that I will receive them before I become gray01:21
MrNighthehe01:21
FR500When is breezy supposed to be out?01:22
dalamaroct 13th01:22
funkyHat_october the 13th01:22
FR500cool01:22
FR500MrNight: i never got my cds01:22
MrNightFR500 there is no backtrack01:22
MrNightlooooooooooool01:23
FR500MrNight: they were lost or something01:23
MrNighthaha01:23
MrNight:P01:23
FR500MrNight: weird though, my neighbor did get his01:23
FR500?01:23
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MrNightFR500 what if he got urs01:23
MrNight:P01:23
FR500no he didnt01:23
FR500we went to the post office to retrieve the packs01:23
MrNightaha01:24
D1does anyone use a bcmwl5 wireless card?01:24
MrNightok01:24
FR500D1: that is a broadcom right?01:25
D1yeah.01:25
mcphailD1: i have one01:25
FR500i'm pretty sure there is a page on the wiki for it, since you need ndiswrapper (afaik)01:26
D1do you get proper signal strength readings?01:26
D1or does it always read 100%01:26
mcphailD1: 100%01:26
D1hmm01:26
D1guess it might be the card then.01:26
mcphaildon't know. Haven't been bothered to tweak things...01:26
FR500i had a linksys with that chipset, i got normal readings all the time01:27
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MaikeruD1, I think I have a tutorial on that bcmwl501:27
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D1to do what?01:28
disasmpauldaoust: heres the full log: http://pastebin.com/35402301:28
Maikeruhttp://www.technetra.com/writings/recent/ndis_wrapper_wifi_html01:28
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bobbydhi01:28
MaikeruD1 does anyone use a bcmwl5 wireless card?01:28
MaikeruIf that's what you were asking for01:29
Fotinakisis there a web site to browse the universe repository?01:29
D1oh, no. I was just asking about the reading. I got it installed.01:29
D1thanks though.01:29
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disasmFR500: the linksys also had proprietary code for that driver, rather than the ndiswrapper with windows driver ;-)01:29
MaikeruWait01:29
Maikeruyou did?01:29
MaikeruPM please01:29
MaikeruI need your help then01:29
Maikeru:)01:29
bobbydwhat's the standard way to stop  services starting up that are installed? I'm looking at the ksysv editor but there are a lot of runlevels and I don't know if I can just remove things from there.01:29
pauldaoustdisasm: hm, looks okay... do you know if any e-mail went through amavis during the recording of this logfile?01:29
D1I don't have a linksys though.01:29
FR500disasm: really??? maybe it's not the same chipset then....01:29
D1just the broadcom chipset.01:30
pauldaoustdisasm: are you using fetchmail to get your messages, or is this computer your mail server?01:30
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disasmpauldaoust: yeah, at the bottom01:30
disasmpauldaoust: this is the mail server01:30
pauldaoustdisasm: hmmmmmmmmmm01:30
pauldaoustyou're not gonna like me saying this, but I'm in over my head :-/01:30
FLDhow do you write christmes01:31
FLDchrismes01:31
pauldaoustI followed a Gentoo HOWTO and it always just worked automagically for me01:31
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FLDchrishmes01:31
FLDlol i dont remember01:31
Chris_Notechristmas01:31
bobbydFLD, it has to do with christ01:31
bobbydsupposedly01:31
disasmFR500: same chipset, they just only have binary "tainted" drivers for the MIPS arch i believe01:31
disasmpauldaoust: no problem, been getting that all day ;-)01:31
theeili extracted rushing_bender and it takes up X when it runs (shows transparent full screen; i can't do anything but move my pointer)01:32
pauldaoustdisasm: sorry :)01:32
FR500disasm: well i used ndiswrapper01:32
fblade1987can anyone give me a noobie guide on how to use bin files properly along with how to make files please?01:32
Chris_Note.. all this talk involving "chris" is triggering my nick alerter01:32
theeilfblade1987: what do you need to know01:32
volvoguybooting software RAID1 array with Hoary? anyone? :)01:32
disasmoh, duh, i was thinking of the linksys routers, i thought you meant the wrt54g, forgot about the fact they make cards too ;-)01:32
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FR500oh01:33
FR500ok01:33
FR500:d01:33
logrushi01:33
volvoguyi love my wrt54g. i wanna buy two more. :)01:33
disasmvolvoguy: what firmware you running?01:33
pauldaoustdoes anyone have any recommendations on a centralised authentication system for a LAN, something that would achieve the same thing as ActiveDirectory in Windows?01:33
volvoguydisasm, just the latest from linksys.01:33
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FLDbobbyd now gimme some of those cookies you have >:(01:33
fblade1987i need to know how to use bin so i can use/install programes aswell as how to fully use makefiels as i dont get at all how to us eit01:34
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disasmvolvoguy: ah, i thought maybe you were using an openwrt rom ;-) thats what made me love my linksys router01:34
volvoguythink i could get two of them talking 300 feet away if i have line of sight between them?01:34
volvoguydisasm, i may do that eventually to get things working the way i want. :)01:34
disasmvolvoguy: don't you need a firmware mod to get it to bridge wireless?01:34
volvoguydisasm, i don't think so.... *loads the config page in browser*01:35
pauldaoustfblade: bin files are pretty simple, actually01:35
theeilfblade1987: by " use bin" you mean run files ;)?01:36
pauldaoustfblade: they're just an extension that some people like to use to signify an executable. I assume you've downloaded the Flash or nVidia installer or some other proprietary thingy?01:36
theeilbinary files01:36
bobbydFLD, ?01:36
pauldaoustfblade1987: just go chmod +x name_of_file.bin01:36
pauldaoustfblade1987: and then go ./name_of_file.bin01:36
disasmfblade1987: what kind of bin file? you can always ./somebin.bin to run it, but if your using java, your better off using java-package to set it up, and dpkg -i the resulting .deb file01:36
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FLD>:I01:36
mcphailpauldaoust: really not something i know much about, but kerberos looks pretty solid. I'm sure it's not the easiest/best solution, though...01:37
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fblade1987is there no way of using through the graphical desktop/01:37
pauldaoustmcphail: cool, I think I'll check it out. I've heard it mentioned a lot.01:37
volvoguydisasm, hmm. maybe you do. i wonder if a bridge is any cheaper than another wrt54g.01:37
pauldaoustfblade1987: incidentally, if the .bin file is an installer, you'll want to go sudo ./name_of_file.bin01:37
fblade1987ahh i'll try but i confused easy lol01:37
mcphailpauldaoust: there was a decent introduction in the SuSE admin manual. I haven't read further than that.01:38
pauldaoustfblade1987: after you go chmod +x name_of_file.bin, it should be clickable from Nautilus01:38
pauldaoust(I think)01:38
pauldaoustmcphail: thanky kindly; I'll try to find that01:38
disasmvolvoguy: no such luck, wrt54g goes for $40 if you get it at the right time, and a bridge goes for about $80 and has less signal strength than the router, supply and demand i guess01:38
theeilfblade1987: if they're in the path (echo $PATH) you can just type the name of the file to run it (to run vim, you type vim) and as other ppl have been saying, if you're in the same folder as the file (pwd) just type ./filename01:38
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volvoguydisasm, i've noticed that as well. so i'll probably need openwrt, a cantenna or two, and i should be able to do 300ft pretty easily.01:39
disasmfblade1987: out of curiosity what is the bin file your running?01:39
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disasmvolvoguy: you don't necessarily need openwrt, i just like being able to have it e-mail me logs and stuff, there are a bunch of roms people have made to make it do things like bridge a network.01:40
fblade1987thanks guys i shall try it, Disasm: just random stuff like the java installer and real player01:40
volvoguydisasm, thanks. good to know.01:40
Doonzwhats the command to forcefully unmount a drive even if it says its busy?01:40
pauldaoustDoonz: shutdown now -r, I believe ;-)01:41
pauldaoustDoonz: (that's what I always used)01:41
Doonzyeah thanx for the reboot01:41
Fotinakisumount -f dev01:41
Fotinakisright?01:41
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Doonzmebbe01:41
Doonzno01:41
pauldaoustDoonz: oop sorry, you didn't try my suggestion, did you?01:41
Doonzstill saying busy01:41
Doonzno01:41
pauldaoustDoonz: ha, good. just checking01:42
Fotinakistry -l (that's an L) instead of -f01:42
Doonzthere was a command i just cant remember it01:42
Stormx2!botsnack01:42
ubotuthanks stormx2 :)01:42
DoonzBingo01:42
Doonzthanx01:42
volvoguydinnertime. be back in a bit.01:42
Fotinakisnp01:42
disasmfblade1987: for java: apt-get install java-package; fakeroot make-jpkg <name_of_file.bin> answer questions, then when done, dpkg -i name_of_file.deb01:42
fblade1987hey guys thanks i think i sort of figuerd it out thnks01:42
disasmfblade1987: err, sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb01:43
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disasmfblade1987: that prevents it from overwriting files in etc, you don't want it to, and ubuntu will make sure the plugin for your browser is put in the right place01:43
samu2is it possible to get those nice windows XP japanese fonts in ubuntu?01:44
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disasmsamu2: possibly, are they truetype?01:45
fblade1987right this may sound stupid but ow you personal msg on a irc?01:46
disasmfblade1987: /msg <name> message01:46
meeephi. could any1 help me setup a pure-ftp-server? :o01:46
samu2disasm,  i am not sure. probably.01:46
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samu2ms p gothic for example01:48
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disasmsamu2: /usr/share/fonts/truetype is where truetype fonts are stored, if you dump them into that folder, you'll have them in ubuntu (keep in mind this is borderline legal a lot of fonts come with an EULA saying you will only use them with the program it came with, etc)01:51
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ggellerI'm trying to use a one-button mouse on an imac.  Is there a way to tell gnome to treat Command-click as a right click or some similar work around?01:52
samu2disasm, is that how youre supposed to install fonts in ubuntu?01:54
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disasmsamu2: its a way i've always used, maybe theres a gui tool somewhere, I just don't use gui's much01:54
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WaldmanI just installed the latest version of Firefox, but how would I create a shorcut to it?01:55
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styles`ok i am booted through a live cd, i try to mount my /dev/hdb1 so i can edit grub but only root can do that, problem is it never let me set up a password01:56
styles`i dont know what the root password is....01:56
styles`can u even be root with the livecd01:56
bobbydstyles, use sudo01:57
styles`sudo?01:57
ggellerstyles: Open a root terminal window from the main gnome window.01:58
styles`i have01:58
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styles`then what?01:59
samu2can i use these .ttc truetype fonts in ubuntu too?01:59
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ggellerstyles:02:00
ggellercd /mnt02:00
ggellermount hdb102:00
ggelleror something like that.02:00
styles`ggeller, i have to be root to be able to mount it02:01
styles`and i cant switch to root cause i dont know the password02:01
styles`and the livecd didnt let me set a password02:01
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thrush_2styles`, 'sudo -s' prompts for a password?02:02
ggellerstyles:  Are you sure you opened a "Root Terminal"02:02
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styles`i only opened a terminal02:02
styles`dont know if its a "root terminal"02:02
rileyshuiti have a prblem with my wireless card02:02
styles`ok02:02
cute_bettongis breezy usable yet?02:03
styles`ive opened a root terminal02:03
rileyshuiti'm pretty new man, sorry02:03
ggellerbye.02:03
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catphivehey, does anyone know how to turn off the "tap to click" functionality in laptops with touchpads02:03
catphive?02:03
rileyshuitwhen I do a ifconfig in terminal it doesnt list my wlan card02:04
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styles`ok now i cant find grub02:04
styles`grrrr02:04
styles`grub normally goes to /boot/grub correct?02:05
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cute_bettongSeveas: hey man is breezy safe to use now?02:06
BROKEN_LADDERis there any way to keep a directory on a second drive synced with some directory on my primary drive, so that my music files will always have a current backup without my having to periodically overwrite the entire directory with thousands of files, over-writing a lot of valid data?02:06
Chris_Notewhats the hdparm string to set dma on/off?02:08
styles`can someone plz help me out02:08
BROKEN_LADDER/boot/grub/menu.lst02:09
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catphivehow do I enable the root user?02:12
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sigurdgacatphive: "sudo passwd"02:13
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell catphive about root02:14
sigurdgacatphive: temporary, you can "sudo bash"02:14
Chris_Noteubotu: root02:14
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:14
catphivesudo passwd worked02:15
sigurdgacatphive: good02:15
catphivethanks02:16
catphivedoes anyone know about configuring touchpads under linux?02:16
sigurdgacatphive: what kind of touchpad? laptop? external?02:17
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catphivelaptop02:19
sigurdgacatphive: my touchpad "just works" in ubuntu and debian.02:19
samu2mine too02:20
sigurdgamaybe searching the forum will help you02:20
samu2seems a bit too sensitive though02:20
catphiveit works, I want to change how it works. I really hate the "tap to click" feature02:20
samu2or maybe im just used to the speed i had in XP02:20
sigurdgasee the xorg.conf file, look for "synaptic"02:21
sigurdgai think that was the place i had to tweak a little when trying gentoo on that laptop02:22
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disasmcatphive: try apt-get install tpconfig, its a console util though02:22
BROKEN_LADDERTHIS IS funny02:23
BROKEN_LADDER Yahoo! Mail gives you 1.0GB MB for free!02:23
BROKEN_LADDER   Would you like to buy a 10MB, 25MB, 50MB or 100MB mailbox?02:23
BROKEN_LADDERuh..hmm..sounds like a bad deal.02:23
catphivethanks02:23
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : make your nick lower case btw.. all upper case is a bit annoying02:24
sigurdgaBROKEN_LADDER: what do you mean by that bying-thing02:24
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pepsihow do i know which xorg modules to use? glcore, dri, extmod, et al02:25
sigurdgapepsi: isn't the default good enough?02:26
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pepsithe default is none of them02:26
pepsii need v4l, but what does the rest do?02:26
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qt2does ubuntu support the radeon 9250, it's not listed on the wiki :\02:28
Gobbla[02:23:37]  <BROKEN_LADDER>  Yahoo! Mail gives you 1.0GB MB for free! uhm?02:28
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Gobbla1GB MB? :O02:28
sigurdgaYahoo mail will be superior to gmail when the new interface reaches the users02:30
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chrisbuddenhello02:30
disasmsigurdga: whats so good about it?02:30
Gobblaim happy with how gmail are...02:31
sigurdgadisasm: the new features that are possible on top of a good search engine02:32
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Gobblasuch as?02:32
pauldaousthallooooooooooooo02:32
sigurdgaGobbla: wait and see :)02:32
Gobblawhats wrong with gmails engine?02:32
pauldaousthere's a problem I'm having, that is causing me no end of grief, and I've RTFW over and over and over again...02:33
sigurdgait's good02:33
Gobblahow much space will yahoo have?02:33
sigurdga1G02:33
Gobblanot that it really matters but gmail has over 2GB02:33
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chrisbuddenWhen I use Rhythmbox, by clicking the icon i made on the desktop, opens the program but only allows me to play my mp3 files in the music dir.  When I opened a mp3 file from my desktop and it opened with rhythmbox, my full WMA library is there and i am able to play the files.   Anyone got an idea?02:33
sigurdgai know, and it doesn't matter, really02:33
disasmpauldaoust: is RTFW Read the Fine Wiki?02:33
Gobblayeah but more is better imo :)02:33
pauldaoustdisasm: ha, no, but I tried that too02:34
flodinedoes anyone here use imagemagick?02:34
flodinei need help02:34
pauldaoustanyone have problems with terribly distorted sound? I'll get that happy beating-of-drums sound when I turn on the computer, but as soon as I log into a user account the sound goes about an octave too slooooooooooooooooow02:34
pauldaoustflodine: I've used it a bit; what do you need help with?02:34
disasmflodine: sometimes, whats the issue?02:34
Gobblasigurdga, are you a beta-tester?02:34
disasmpauldaoust: just giving you a hard time over the upside down M ;-)02:35
flodinepauldaous i need to make some window small is the possible02:35
sigurdgai filled 8% of ny gmail account, don't think most people need as much as you ;)02:35
flodinethis02:35
sigurdgaGobbla: sort of, yes02:35
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Gobblaive only filled 12 out of 2,5, but with time it will get larger02:35
pauldaoustdisasm: oop, I meant *s*tfw.02:35
pauldaoustflodine: make a window small?02:36
flodinelike in fvwm02:36
Gobblasigurdga, is it like with gmail or for a trusted few?02:36
pauldaoustflodine: what sort of window? I normally use imagemagick from the command-line02:36
sigurdgaGobbla: yes, it will, and I think the limit will be extended before you fill your mailbox02:36
flodinepauldaous look at the screenshot02:36
flodinehttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22468994/02:36
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Gobblasigurdga, that is most likely02:36
zdennisi lost a network connection for about 2 seconds, and now my nfs mounts are freezing... i can't umount them because it says "Device is busy", but I can't remount them either. Any ideas?\02:36
chrisbuddenanyone got any thoughts to my problem?02:37
jcapezdennis: They should come back up if you can contact the server02:37
flodinepauldaous you see the small windows02:37
sigurdgaGobbla: I think it is for a subset of the users, but will be extended soon02:37
zdennisjcape, when i try, it just hangs in the terminal02:37
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jcapezdennis: Otherwise you're likely unable to safely umount them02:37
Gobblaso u cant invite me?02:37
zdennisi dont want to reboot02:37
zdennis..02:37
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jcapezdennis: Can you ping the server?02:37
jcapezdennis: I used to admin a NFS-/home based setup at my old job02:37
sigurdgaGobbla: sorry, no, but I think there will be more screenshots as the media awakens02:38
jcapezdennis: NFS will hang until it can contact the server02:38
zdenniswhoa...cannot ping server02:38
pepsihow do i know which xserver moduels to load? glcore, dri, glx, etc02:38
Gobblasigurdga, allright02:38
jcapezdennis: (That's by design)02:38
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pauldaoustflodine: I've looked at the screenshot, but I'm still not quite sure what you're trying to do02:38
Gobblaunless these are really useful features i think i will stick with gmail though02:38
sigurdgaGobbla: but that is not a good replacement, i know02:38
jcapezdennis: Yeah, fix the network so you can and it'll come back as though nothing happened.02:38
zdennisok, fixed network02:39
zdennisam trying it again02:39
pauldaoustcrimsun: you ain't there, are you?02:39
Gobblai can do what i want to do with gmail so..02:39
flodinepauldaous ok on the right side those windows are made small some how02:39
pauldaoustflodine: sure do02:40
Gobblai dont realise why gmail havent gone public yet, every sucker who wants to have an account have it by now..02:40
pauldaoustflodine: yeah... not sure how that's done. pretty sure it's not through ImageMagick though02:41
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sigurdgaGobbla: I think they will pretty soon, about the same time as Yahoo does02:41
flodinepauldaous if you read the comment the guy says that image is the programe02:41
Gobblai mean is basically public already..02:42
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zdennisjcape, it's working great02:42
zdennisjcape, thank you for your help02:42
zeus1_hey...anyone out there to help me fix my USB headset02:42
jcapenp02:42
sigurdgayes, I got my userid from an automatic service02:42
chrisbuddenrhythmbox?02:42
Gobblak02:42
Gobblai think those got shut down02:43
Gobblathere were like millions of invites there, heh..02:43
sigurdgaheh, yes02:43
pauldaoustflodine: yer right. looks like he uses that funky script he links to, although that's out of my league...02:44
sigurdganighty nighty02:44
Gobblagn02:44
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chrisbuddenrhythmbox? anyone?02:45
pauldaoustchrisbudden: no idea; that sounds weird. Rhythmbox only ever uses its database, unless you have a really really old version...02:45
funkyHatwhat's the questions chrisbudden?02:45
funkyHat*question02:45
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pauldaousthey, has anyone had sound that goes tooooooo sloooooooow? it sounds long and drawn-out, like a horror film02:46
chrisbuddenthanks02:46
funkyHatoh, just read it02:46
funkyHatno idea chris, sorry02:46
pauldaoustwhen I use an OSS app like Flash, everything is magically fixed02:46
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Gobblapauldaoust, not unintentionally...02:46
chrisbuddeni have 0.8.802:46
pauldaoustGobbla: ha!02:46
chrisbuddeni tried to update to 0.9.002:46
zeus1_Umm ok everyone, my USB keyboard works fine, but my headset (plantronics dsp-500 USB headset) is not being detected on ubuntu. They work fine in Windows XP. Also my speakers are working (playing sound) perfectly fine, so the sound is working. Could anyone assist me in fixing this problem?02:46
chrisbuddenbut their were lots of dependency problems02:46
pauldaoustzeus1: sure. type lsusb at the command line, and paste the contents into the #flood channel on this server or onto http://pastebin.com02:47
pauldaoustzeus1_: *sorry meant to say paste the *output* into #flood or a pastebin02:47
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pauldaoustzeus1_: have you watched for the appearance and disappearance of any new items in the Device Manager when you plug and unplug the headset?02:48
catphivemy gnome startup script is boned, but the "safe" startup option works fine. how do I reset my normal startup script?02:48
zeus1_yes pauldaoust I tried that02:48
pauldaoustzeus1_: (Ubuntu device manager, not Windows)02:48
pauldaoustzeus1_: hm. okay, let's see the output of lsusb instead02:49
catphivemy current script never gets past launching the window manager02:49
zeus1_pauldaoust check the flood channel02:49
pauldaoustzeus1_: hm, that's it?02:49
zeus1_yea02:49
pauldaoustzeus1_: and it can't be loose wires...02:49
zeus1_it works fien in windows xp...02:50
zeus1_fine*02:50
Gobblawhat's going to be new in breezy?02:50
Doonzhey guys if i have to run a program through terminal can is it possible to make an icon for it and have it run terminal so i cant see it and just the app shows up?02:50
pauldaoustzeus1_: try typing dmesg and then paste the last ten or fifteen lines into #flood02:51
pepsihow do i know which x server modules to load? glcore, dri, glx, etc?02:51
pauldaoustpepsi: depends if you're going with proprietary drivers from the hardware manufacturers or with the open-source drivers02:51
pepsipauldaoust, ok.. well i dunno.. how do i know which ones to use?02:51
TrekCyclingyeah, I'd like to know what is going to be new in Breezy also02:51
chrisbuddenwhen is Breezy out?02:52
zeus1_pauldaoust check #flood channel02:52
Gobblaoctober i think02:52
pepsithere is no description of what each modules is for02:52
thrice`is breezy preview considered stable enough to upgrade ?02:52
pauldaoustpepsi: I guess the best thing to do actually is ask what you're trying to do. are you having problems? or is everything okay, and you just want to improve performance? or are you trying to enable transparency and shadows?02:52
pepsipauldaoust, well i dunno.. im reconfigureing xserver-xorg cause i want a higher resolution, but the default for theose modules is none of them02:53
pepsiim using nv for now, will use nvidia if i cant get 1600x120002:53
pepsitransparency would be nice though02:53
pauldaoustpepsi: that's unusual; you should at least have DRI and glx enabled02:53
catphivegnome freezes on bootup for me when trying to launch matacity. the "safe" session option works fine though. how do I reset my gnome startup script so that so that I don't need to use the safe session?02:53
pauldaoustpepsi: not sure why it didn't enable those by default02:54
pauldaoustzeus1_: well, it does say "registered new driver snd-usb-audio" which is a good sign. maybe you just aren't choosing the proper soundcard to output to, in the program that you're using?02:54
pauldaoustzeus1_: (not sure how to do that, as I only have one sound card, and it's been a while since I've had two, so everything's changed)02:55
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zeus1_pauldaoust...no..the option wasent there 4 choosing the headset02:56
pauldaoustzeus1_: bizarre. I'm not sure...02:56
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zeus1_and its still not there02:56
pauldaoustzeus1_: one last thing to paste: could you paste the output of lsmod into #flood?02:56
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samu2does anyone know how to install truetype font collections .ttc files in ubuntu?02:57
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AlinuxOShello all :)02:58
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zeus1_pauldaoust ok i posted in flood02:59
pauldaoustzeus1_: gee whiz03:01
pauldaoustzeus1_: I can't see anything wrong03:01
pauldaoustzeus1_: looks okay to me03:01
zeus1_hmm03:01
zeus1_h/o...im gonna try a trick crimsun told me03:01
AlinuxOSaftertaf, installing a 2.6.12 vanilla kernel, I can't see boot messages anymore. my menu.list contains  "vga=794 quiet splash" for 17" 1280x1024 resolution. so I had to use vga=normal, but it's horrible :( what can I do?03:01
zeus1_to unplug the headset...reboot ubuntu then plug it in again03:02
zeus1_brb....03:02
disasmzeus1_: try running alsmaixer -c 103:02
zeus1_whats that did disasm03:02
zeus1_do*03:02
zeus1_u mean alsamixer -c right03:03
AlinuxOSsomeone who could help me?03:03
zeus1_brb..03:03
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BenMhey, has anyone seen a case where a computer detects the network card fine when booting from an ubuntu cd03:05
BenMbut when netbooting, it is unable to detect it03:05
BenMthat is happening on a pxeserver setup i have here with my dell inspiron 600m03:06
AlinuxOSaftertaf, installing a 2.6.12 vanilla kernel, I can't see boot messages anymore. my menu.list contains  "vga=794 quiet splash" for 17" 1280x1024 resolution. so I had to use vga=normal, but it's horrible :( what can I do?03:06
disasmaftertaf: did you try removing the special options, and booting without frame buffer?03:06
AlinuxOSok, maybe I'll try suse, that simplier for this stuff?03:07
AlinuxOSah sorry aftertaf03:07
AlinuxOS:)03:07
AlinuxOShow can I boot without?03:07
AlinuxOS/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=794 single03:08
AlinuxOS/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=794 u mean?03:08
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AlinuxOSI'm usign hoary with vanilla kernel.03:10
AlinuxOSbecause breezy with 2.6.12 is not stabile for me.03:11
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disasmAlinuxOS: cut off everything after the root=/dev/hda603:12
disasmthen add one parameter back at a time, till you find out the problem one03:12
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AlinuxOS"/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6"   ok?03:13
zeus1_pauldaoust03:13
zeus1_ok so...I see the headset in device manager now03:13
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AlinuxOSthen add one parameter? I can' understand sorry?03:14
zeus1_pauldaoust its still not playing in the headset yet03:14
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AlinuxOSin debian channel they don't want to help noone :(03:14
AlinuxOSbad , very bad.03:14
benkong2! apt sources03:14
ubotubenkong2: Do they come in packets of five?03:14
AlinuxOS"/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6"   so I leave in this way?03:15
fblade1987can any oe tell me how to download codecs so i can play WMV and mpg mpegs and the other please03:15
benkong2! tell benkong2 about apt03:15
disasmAlinuxOS: sorry, try that like you pasted above, and then add the vga line, and then the quiet line, and then the splash line, one at a time with reboots inbetween to figure out where the problem is03:15
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, benkong203:15
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AlinuxOSbenkong2, http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms03:16
benkong2AlinuxOS, thanks03:16
fblade1987can any one tell me how to download codecs so i can play WMV and mpg mpegs and the other please03:17
AlinuxOSdieman, ok03:17
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zeus1_pauldaoust u there03:17
AMCDeathKnightI am running Ubuntu live over Gentoo.. Where do i go to find my Gentoo home directory?03:17
AlinuxOSfblade1987, http://ubuntuguide.org/  ctrl + f search word "codecs".03:18
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: that depends on where you put it :) most likely, you would have put it on the /dev/hda2 partiiton (if you don't have any fancy partiitoning and you followed the Gentoo guide which suggested making a tiny partition at /dev/hda1 for /boot)03:18
bluefoxicydamnit03:19
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: then on that partition you would find it under /home/yourusername03:19
bluefoxicymy gcs632u KVM isn't working03:19
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: but first you have to mount it. go like this at the command line: sudo mkdir /media/harddrive03:19
disasmAMCDeathKnight: i;d guess hda4 or 503:19
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/harddrive03:19
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: oh you have fancy partitions?03:20
AMCDeathKnightI changed it to hd103:20
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: if you have more than four partitions it'll start at /dev/hda503:20
disasmAMCDeathKnight: cause setting up gentoo they tell you hda1 for boot hda2 for swap hda3 for / and i'd assume you'd use hda4 for /home03:20
pauldaoustAMCDeathKnight: ohhhhhh maybe you did it differently from me; I just dumped everything into /dev/hda2 :)03:20
l4mp_ibookn803:21
AMCDeathKnightok03:21
AMCDeathKnightlets see03:21
disasmfdisk -l will list your parts03:21
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AMCDeathKnightok wait till i go to poastbin03:22
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AMCDeathKnight*paste03:22
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disasmyeah, people frown on /exec -o fdisk -l ;-)03:23
AMCDeathKnighthttp://pastebin.com/35410903:23
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oblibThis is probably a much asked question -- how do I add shortcuts to the Applications menu?03:23
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disasmi'd guess /dev/hda3 in /home03:24
AMCDeathKnightSo how to I get to it then03:24
disasmAMCDeathKnight: sudo mkdir /homedir03:24
AMCDeathKnightmade03:24
disasmAMCDeathKnight: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /homedir03:24
disasmAMCDeathKnight: then cd /homedir03:24
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AMCDeathKnightNo its only got Ubuntu in there03:25
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artureHi, hab grad ubuntu installiert und meine serielle mouse geht nicht... kann mir da jemand schnell helfen?03:25
MobusHow do I override the function if rmdir that doesn't allow me to delete a folder when it isn't empty?03:26
disasmarture: no sprachen zi doich03:26
zeus1_can anyone help me get sound playing in my head set03:26
disasmnot sure if i spelled that right...03:26
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MobusDisase: Es ist Ich Sreche KEine Deutsche03:26
disasmzeus1_: try alsamixer -c 1   -  do you get anything?03:26
zeus1_ya a black screen with some bars03:27
zeus1_disasm03:27
disasmok, whats it say in the top left corner03:27
Mobushow can I delete a folder that has 250 items in it without deleting each one one by one?03:27
zeus1_Plantronics Headset03:27
disasmoh, and are there m's on those bars by any chance?03:27
zeus1_ya03:27
zeus1_on base boost and auto gain03:27
zeus1_bass boost*03:28
oblibMobus rm -R recurses03:28
disasmMobus: rm -rf folder/03:28
Mobusthanks03:28
disasmMobus: be very careful with that command03:28
oblibMobus rm -f forces03:28
theeilq03:28
MobusI know I know03:28
disasmwhats the diff between -R and -r?03:28
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zeus1_disasm wat do i do next03:29
disasmzeus1_: ok, master above that has a number right?03:29
disasmwhats that number?03:29
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theeilwhen i run a game, i have to killall esd; is there a workaround or way to use alsa for EVERYTHING03:29
zeus1_disasm where is "master"03:29
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pauldaousthey, does anyone know what X does when it starts up? I'm specifically wondering what sort of scripts it runs, etc. I've traced a sound problem down, and I now know that it goes funny at about the time the "X startup file" runs, but I have no idea what that is. any ideas?03:30
disasmwhen you run alsamixer, you have a bunch of faders, the far left one should be master03:30
zeus1_um u told me to start alsamixer with the parameters "-c 1"03:30
disasmpauldaoust: gnome?03:30
zeus1_so all I see is bass/treble options03:30
oblibSeveas: This is probably a much asked question -- how do I add shortcuts to the Applications menu?03:30
disasmpauldaoust: it runs esd (the sound daemon)03:30
disasmbass/treble in alsamixer?03:31
arturesorry war weg...  I've just installed and my serial mouse isn't working... can anyone give me a hint so i can go to bed with an working system?03:31
pauldaoustdisasm: well, maybe I should explain it further. this sound problem I'm having, it doesn't crop up until I actually log into my GNOME session. My first thought is that esd is the culprit, but esd is running before the sound goes all distorted... it plays the startup sound for a scant second or two, then goes sloooooow.03:31
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zeus1_disasm...ok so i went to alsamixer how do i change the device from my sound card to the headset03:32
disasmarture: cat /dev/ttyS0 try moving the mouse, if yous see jiberish thats the serial port03:32
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pauldaoustdisasm: logging in through ssh, I can see that certain programs appear and disappear at that very time. xrdb, cc1, and cpp03:32
theeilarture: man Xorg/xorg there should be two configuration utilities, one is more manual, try that03:32
disasmpauldaoust: you can try using alternate dm/wm maybe try fluxbox, and run a sound app03:32
pauldaoustdisasm: that's a clever idea. just for troubleshooting purposes?03:33
pauldaoustdisasm: looking at the manpage tells me that xrdb is usually called from your "X startup file", although I would assume that a distro like this, that uses a login manager, probably loads it at a different point.03:33
arturethx, i'll try this now...03:33
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disasmpauldaoust: depends, i personally use fluxbox all the time, much nicer interface imho, but you could very well use it just for troubleshooting03:34
planetcallI got 4 Fedora4 CDs and 1 Ubuntu CD ....... which should I install. I am currently using Fedora 3 on my box. Is there any compelling reason to go for a particular one ?03:35
pauldaoustdisasm: I'm installing it for a school, and I figure GNOME will be the best enviro for kids to use.03:35
disasmzeus1_: when you run alsamixer -c 1 it should jump to the second sound card (ie your usb headset) if it comes up, you should see in the upper left corner, card: <device> what is that device for one, and secondly you should see faders, that say master and pcm primarily, make sure they aren't muted, and the volume is at about 7403:36
disasmpauldaoust: true, probly is03:36
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planetcall 03:37
zeus1_disasm...I dont see it...h/o i am taking a pic to sho u03:37
disasmplanetcall: ubunutu uses deb files, which are much better designed than rpm, and ubuntu peole are nice ;-)03:37
disasmzeus1_: ok03:37
planetcallhmmmm03:37
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disasmplanetcall: not too mention more technical reasons like /etc/init.d rather than the rc scripts (it still has them, they just work differently) and other cool little differences having to do with the debian base03:38
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disasmSmegzor: your name reminds me of smeagol for some reason ;-)03:39
Smegzor:P  its more Red Dwarf03:39
disasmah ;-)03:39
planetcalli used the live CD provided for ubuntu......it was satisfying except that the grahics didnt go beyond 800*60003:40
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SmegzorI can't see my ubuntu box from my Windows network for some reason.  I'm not sure what I haven't done to get it on the lan.  Is there a howto specific to ubuntu for this?>03:40
drbombay43planetcall, I use fc4, as a desktop, but I use ubuntu for my laptop because I like the way gnome acts in ubuntu03:40
planetcallis it normal for live CD ? .......btw i am using Intel86503:40
disasmplanetcall: thats no problem, just a quick change in the xorg.conf, mine defaults to 1280x800 actually. I was rather impressed how it picked up my laptop screen without any problems03:41
disasmSmegzor: any firewall?03:42
planetcallk but since it is all packed in just 1 CD so there wont be much applications to be installed.......i havent tried my hand on the cd as yet03:42
disasmSmegzor: oh, and can the ubuntu box see the network?03:42
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disasmplanetcall: you need the ubuntu install cd, it's still one cd, but i think it has a fairly good selection of apps03:42
zeus1_disasm: http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9040/desktop15qr.jpg03:43
Smegzoryes but I can turn that off.  makes no difference03:43
zeus1_that is what I get when I type "alsamixer -c 1"03:43
planetcallwill it be possible to see ntfs drives on ubuntu ?03:43
disasmwell it appears to be recognizing the sound card ;-)03:43
disasmthats good news, so what app are you using that you want to use it with?03:44
Smegzorit might be the windows side blocking it.  i'll have a play and see.03:44
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artureok, i've tried cat /dev/ttyS0 and the thing that happend was, that i could type but nothing happened when i moved the mouse and i didn't know how to get my comand line back.03:44
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disasmarture: ctrl-c03:44
zeus1_disasm: xmms03:44
disasmarture: guess it's not on ttyS0...03:44
Mobusok, it didn't work...03:44
MobusI want to remove a directory03:45
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Mobuswe'll call it "dir"03:45
artureso... ttys1?03:45
planetcallis there support for reading  NTFS on ubuntu 03:45
Mobus/home/Mobus/dira has 250 items in it03:45
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Mobusplanetcall: mount -o uid=USERNAME /dev/hda1 /mnt03:46
disasmok, in xmms, go to preferences, make sure output is alsa, configure, then audio device choose plantronics headset03:46
disasmzeus1_: above is for you03:46
MobusI want to get rid of /home/mobus/dira.  how?03:46
disasmrm -rf /home/mobus/dira03:46
Mobus when I do that it says "dira is a directory"03:47
disasmyou have the -r in there right?03:47
planetcallI got my 10 CD Pack y'day and I will be distributing it to my friends pretty soon.........gifting one of them on his B'day...03:47
Smegzordisasm, yes ubuntu can see the network03:47
Mobusok... now all of a sudden it worked03:48
Mobusthanks03:48
disasmno problem03:48
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dduckoWhat level do I need to set my inittab to not to start the xserver, or do i do that somewhere else?03:48
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disasmSmegzor: what are you trying to see on the ubuntu box? you trying to ping, or actually access a service (file share/web server/mail server/etc)03:48
brownie17aftertaf: on the ubntu guide it says that ubntu can mount an ISO without burning it, and it gave me the code to do it, is that like usually alcahol or nero or osmething to simulate a drive?03:48
dduckoI want to manually install the Nvidia drivers03:49
planetcallOk i will be installing ubuntu and I guess that I will be getting the Ubuntu CDs every 6 months ;)03:49
fblade1987right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?03:49
Smegzori need to access the printer, but being able to see any shares I set up would be nice.03:49
planetcallthanks buddies03:49
Mobusnow03:49
zeus1_disasm..I did that  but its still playing from the speakers03:49
Mobushow do a chmod 250 files at once?03:49
disasmbrownie17: yeah, sorta, it just mounts the file system though03:49
Smegzorthe ubuntu box isn't getting listed in network neighbourhood03:49
disasmzeus1_: odd...03:49
disasmyou can always rmmod the module for the sound card, and try playing...03:50
zeus1_even tho the box i clicked on said plantronics headset disasm03:50
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zeus1_idk how to do that03:50
Smegzorbrb.  i have to attend to something for a few mins.. my printer can wait :)03:50
arturesame, nothing happens....hmm i know it is not a hardware problem...03:51
fblade1987right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?03:51
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MobusHow dp I change permissions of 250 files at once?03:51
disasmzeus1_: what card is it?03:51
dduckoMobus in one directory?03:51
thellamamy ibook can03:51
Mobusall in one directory yes03:51
thellamat wake from from sleep03:51
disasmzeus1_: alsamixer should tell you the card03:51
thellamamy ibook cannot wake from sleep in ubuntu03:52
thellamait says something about not finding cpu freq03:52
dduckochmod -R nameOfDirectory/03:52
disasmMobus: chmod -R03:52
Mobusthanks03:52
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brownie17madpilot: when i try to play WMV's in totem, they are choppy and crap03:53
Mobusthank you so much03:53
dduckoWhat level do I need to set my inittab to not to start the xserver, or do i do that somewhere else?03:53
robertbbWhat's the shortcut key to switch between workspaces in Gnome?03:53
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robertbbInstead of clicking on the workspace switcher applet?03:53
pepsihow do i use the nvidia module?03:54
zdennisdducko, it used to be runlevel 2... but then they screwed with the rc scripts03:54
brownie17robertbb: you can set your own03:54
pepsi!nvidia03:54
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:54
robertbbbrownie17, how?03:54
brownie17robertbb: want to know how?03:54
volvoguyi'm back. did any software raid gurus show up while i was gone?03:54
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brownie17robertbb: you go system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts03:54
brownie17then scroll down until you get to ti03:54
dduckoso.. that wont work then.. Is there a way to kill the Xserver.. or do I need to restart in Debug mode?03:54
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NAiLQuick question: Is there a way to not start X on boot?03:55
brownie17robertbb: i have it set up so my f5-f8 keys are al assigned to a workspace03:55
thellamasomeone help me please! my ibook cant wake from sleep, it says something about not finding cpu freq and network stuff!03:55
robertbbbrownie17, Awesome.. thanks :-) I'll have a play.03:55
durtNail: you could just boot up in recovery mode03:56
brownie17robertbb: :)03:56
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stperehey there03:56
NAiLdurt: Doesn't sound like a nice permanent solution ;)03:56
thellamano one has any idea on my problem?03:56
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thellamawoops03:56
zdenniswhat is the rcS.d directory? I know what 0-6 runlevels...but rcS.d?03:57
pepsiwasnt there a package you could install that added the Open Terminal command to the right click menu?03:57
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brownie17bob2: hey, do you know if there a toaster package for rythmbox, so everytime the song changes it will popup and tell me what the new one is?03:57
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NAiLzdennis: Read the README-file in rcS.d ;)03:57
zdennisNAiL, , go figure..thx03:58
brownie17pepsi: isnt that default? mine is there alreaddy03:58
thellamamac vs ubuntu poll: who votes tiger, who votes hoary?03:58
brownie17hoary03:58
thellama0 to 1!03:58
thellamatiger03:59
zdennisyou are asking this in a ubuntu irc channel?03:59
brownie17thellama, at least we got alot of votes! :)03:59
thellamaheh03:59
brownie17hahah03:59
thellamayes is am03:59
brownie17yep :)03:59
zdennisi vote hoary03:59
thellamak03:59
durtnail: i know i saw the command on how to do it in the ubuntu forums somewhere, but i dont remember it - ask google03:59
thellama0 to 2!03:59
thellamayay!03:59
volvoguythellama, tiger with my small hard drive, dual-boot when i get a bigger one. :)03:59
thellamaheh03:59
NAiLdurt: just figured it out.. remove the etc/rc2.d/S13gdm symlink03:59
zdennisa cost-analysis aided me to believe that i get way more for what i paid for my pc and hoary, then what i do for a mac03:59
NAiLthnx :)03:59
brownie17gtg you guys1 :(04:00
brownie17cya04:00
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fblade1987right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?04:00
thellamawell i dual boot hoary and tiger04:00
thellamajust installed last night04:00
thellamanewbie to linux04:00
thellamaatleast osx is unix04:00
thellamaso not too alien for me04:00
zdennisOSX is BSD, not unix04:00
thellamawell bsd is based on unix ;)04:01
thellamaisn't it?04:01
stperefblade1987, you want to see your linux partition in windows?!04:01
thellamait has some unix roots, the command line is almost identical in both04:01
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zdennisyes04:01
RootsRoots?04:01
zdennisyes to thellama04:01
thellamawell uh04:01
thellamayay!04:02
stperefblade1987, or is it the opposite?04:02
thellamaanyway, all i have installed since is vlc and opera, what else should i get?04:02
thellamahoary is nicely packaged byt :)04:03
thellama*btw04:03
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thellamaanyone?04:03
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stperethellama, hmm.. depends on what you like..04:04
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stperethellama, what you want to do actually04:04
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stperethellama, I recommend getting gstreamer-mad04:05
stpereto listen to mp3s, if it's not already done04:05
thellamai have no idea04:05
thellamamp3s? vls does that right?04:05
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thellamagimp will replace my photoshop04:06
thellamaopenoffice for word04:06
thellamadamn i spent a lot on software :/04:06
Madpilotthellama: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for all the multimedia stuff04:06
thellamacool thanks04:06
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dduckoIm haveing some issues with things crashing, which I believe it is because of my graphics card04:07
thellamaoh, one more thing: why doesn't clicking on any link like that open up my browser?04:07
thellamai have to right click it04:07
dduckoFirefox crashes on a few sites.. the Nvidia home page for one04:07
mushtaqhi how to set the X as my default logon in "Kubuntu"04:07
Madpilotthellama: no idea, I use IRC inside Opera (Opera Chat) so it works fine... (I love integrated apps, I do...)04:08
dduckoand another game, NWN crashes in certain areas..04:08
lJlolelbreezy rocks, but isn't it supposed to use gnome 2.12?04:08
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disasmdducko: that usually has to do with a plugin you have (flash maybe?)04:09
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uruguaianhi04:09
disasmmushtaq: the X?04:09
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zeus1_disasm its still not working..04:09
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zeus1_the sound tha tis04:10
mushtaqdisasm, yes xorg is not set as my default04:10
mushtaqdisasm, when i installed kubuntu it is going to text mode04:10
uruguaiani want to open a .mpg file.. but the 'totem' tell me i need to install some plugin..04:10
zdennisAnyone here use Evolution for email?04:10
mushtaqdisasm, i want it to go in graphical on my power pc04:10
Madpilot!tell uruguaian about restricted04:10
disasmmushtaq: sudo apt-get install kdm04:10
zdennisI am trying to get my SMTP to use sSMTP, so I can connect over ssl to our smtp server at work, and not use plain text authentication with my cable internet provider04:11
zdennisbut i can't get it to work04:11
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mushtaqdisasm, but when i use startx i can go into to kde04:11
disasmmushtaq: sudo apt-get install kdm will give you the graphical login04:11
mushtaqdisasm, but this is not the case at start up i need to do it manually04:11
uruguaianMadpilot: waht?04:11
disasmmushtaq: are you listening to me?04:12
Madpiloturuguaian: you should have just gotten a message from ubotu, with a URL in it. follow that URL, it's got the info you need for mpg support...04:12
mushtaqdisasm, kdm is already the newest version.04:12
mushtaq0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 73 not upgraded.04:12
johndarkhorsemushtaq they let you in here and your already causing trouble? lol04:13
uruguaian!tell uruguaian about restricted04:13
Smegzorargh!  I was able to add my printer, but I can't print to it even on the ubuntu box.  I was able to do a test page earlier.  Now CUPS falls over and has to be restarted. :<04:13
disasmmushtaq: /etc/init.d/kdm start04:13
mushtaqjohndarkhorse, what did i do ? wrong ?04:13
uruguaianok, thanks04:13
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mushtaqdisasm, do i need to do it every time i boot my pc ?04:14
disasmSmegzor: i've had problems with cups on ubuntu before, i think last time I just installed it from source...04:14
mushtaqoh hi johndarkhorse  how are you ?04:14
mushtaqjohndarkhorse, what did i do wrong now ?04:14
johndarkhorsemushtaq nothing wrong, i'm just messin with ya04:14
disasmmushtaq: well if that works, do update-rc.d kdm defaults04:14
johndarkhorsemushtaq i'm at the office working04:14
mushtaqjohndarkhorse, oh ok04:14
disasmthen when you reboot it should go into kdm04:15
mushtaqjohndarkhorse, have a nice day at work04:15
johndarkhorsemushtaq i use this nick so i can do my real job w/o worrying about folks msg'g me04:15
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mushtaqok disasm i will try now04:15
mushtaqok johndarkhorse but your heart is in the room04:15
johndarkhorsealways04:16
zeus1_disasm idk how to fix...ahh im so clos04:16
mushtaqdisasm, System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist04:16
disasmzeus1_: what chipset is your soundcard?04:16
disasmmushtaq: try this: update-rc.d -f kdm remove; update-rc.d kdm defaults - dont forget the sudo's ;-)04:18
zeus1_disasm: USB Mixer is the chip04:18
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robertbbHmm.. anyone here use gaim?04:19
MarioCi do04:20
robertbbSeems when I get messages, it doesn't flash04:20
durthas anyone successfully done this: http://nanocrew.net/  ?04:20
disasmno, the chipset of hte sound card04:20
mushtaqdisasm, it worked me going to restart thanks anyway04:20
MarioCrobertbb, no it doesn't04:20
robertbbMarioC, Dang. :-(04:20
MarioCrobertbb, the tab text color changes to red04:20
disasmrobertbb: i have on occasion, mostly use naim and bitlbee though04:20
zeus1_disasm: the chip is "Realtek ALC650E"04:21
robertbbMarioC, Also, the buddy list won't minimise to the system tray in Ubuntu either04:21
robertbbOr will it?04:21
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yonkel-lappyi am having some trouble with graphics on my dell inpsiron 6000 laptop. i can get gdm to start but the lcd is blank! it works fine with an external monitor tho04:21
MarioCrobertbb, yes, it works04:21
MarioCyonkel-lappy, use a lower resolution04:22
robertbbMarioC, How do I get that to work? None of the plugins seem to do it?04:22
MarioCrobertbb, by default you have an appleet that show the gaim budy icon04:22
yonkel-lappyMarioC: how do i do that? xorg.conf?04:22
MarioCyonkel-lappy, yes, try using: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:22
yonkel-lappyMarioC: thanks i will04:23
MarioCrobertbb, you don't need any extra plugins, by default it works04:23
robertbbHmm...04:23
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Maikerurawr04:23
johndarkhorse!tell yonkel-lappy about resolution04:23
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: thank you so much04:24
Maikerudo do dooo04:24
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Maikerudoo doo dooo04:24
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Mr-Falkoroh lord,.. my balls are hurting04:24
Mr-Falkorerr04:24
Mr-Falkormy eyeballs`s04:24
MarioClol04:24
MaikeruIf you guys can't tell, I'04:24
MaikeruI'm very bored04:24
Maikeru;/04:24
MarioCtry writing some nice program ;)04:24
Maikerutoo bored to open up pico04:25
Maikeru;/04:25
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MarioCor... watch porn04:25
MarioCit always works04:25
Maikeruand by me being bored I become lazy04:25
MaikeruWell, I lost all my porn04:25
Mr-FalkorxFTE is a funny editor04:25
Maikeru:<04:25
Maikeruthanks to windblows04:25
thellamawhat advantages and new features does breezy have?04:25
disasmzeus1_: try rmmod snd-intel8x004:25
Maikerugood thing it's off my system04:25
disasmzeus1_: then worse case scenario is no sound should work04:26
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Maikeruhah04:26
Maikeruno sound?04:26
Maikeruthat sucks04:26
robertbbMarioC, My buddy list doesn't iconify at all04:26
MarioCanyone running breezy?04:26
abbot45hey.  can someone recommend a wireless router??04:26
thellamawhat's new in breezy? (main stuff)04:26
MaikeruWith me, I don't get sound originally on Windows but it works beautifully on linux without any additional work04:26
robertbbabbot45, Linksys WRT54g04:26
MarioCrobertbb, weird... do you have that applet... I can't remember its name04:27
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robertbbMarioC, Yeah I do.. It's just called "System tray icon"04:27
disasmMaikeru: he gets sound, just not with his usb headset, so we're removing the snd card driver to try to force xmms to use the headset04:27
robertbbAnd the only option is to hide new messages in it until clicked04:27
robertbbBut I don't see it at all04:28
MarioCrobertbb, do you want to hide your buddy list?04:28
abbot45Is the Linksys WRT54g the best out there?  I don't think im gonna be tweaking it and putting my own firmware on it and stuff.  I just want something thats going to work nicely out of the box for a 3 or 4 computer home network.04:28
Maikeruohhh04:28
MarioCif so, you have to "close" the buddy list for doing that04:28
MaikeruThat sucks04:28
fivetwentysixSniff, I want the later versions of PHP.04:28
Maikerubig time04:28
MaikeruI can't get wireless on my laptop04:28
robertbbMarioC, Yeah, I want to be able to click the close button and for it to appear as an icon on the systray04:28
Maikeruwhich is why I'm hoping Seveas will respond04:28
abbot45Something that isnt going to require DAILY RESETS.04:28
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Maikerusince he was walking me through it earlier04:28
robertbbMarioC, When I close though, the whole thing shuts down04:29
Mr-FalkorI`ve changed from Suse to Ubuntu04:29
durtlinksys works and there are lots of folks out there using a linksys, so you'll find lots of help04:29
disasmMaikeru: i lucked out, wireless didn't work in windows for mine, but worked without a hitch in linux ;-)04:29
Mr-Falkorso,.. Im more happy with ubuntu04:29
zeus1_disasm: it keeps telling me that "module snd-intel8x0 is in use"04:29
Maikerudisasm, I wish I were you04:29
MaikeruI'm stuck with this fuckin DWL-65004:30
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Maikeruwhich is like the biggest problem to get working on Linux04:30
durtdepends on your hardware04:30
MaikeruI spent like a month on getting my usb adapter working on my desktop04:30
MaikeruI gave up for the longest time04:30
disasmzeus1_: killall esd04:30
Maikeruand decided to check the web again04:31
Maikeruand finally found something that worked04:31
Maikeruso my new project is the laptop's pcmcia04:31
MarioCrobertbb, weird.... those are default settings... why don't you try rm ~/.gaim ?04:31
abbot45whats the best place to buy one of those then?  newegg?04:31
zeus1_disasm that didnt work04:31
disasmMaikeru: broadcom, right?04:31
MaikeruNo idea04:31
Maikeruabbot45, www.cnet.com04:31
Maikerusearch for the product04:31
Maikeruwill give you different places to buy from04:31
thellamawhat's new in breezy?04:31
Maikeruand who has the best price (including S&H)04:31
Maikeruor www.froogle.com04:31
abbot45Maikeru, ive been doing research on cnet.  ive bought things from the stores on there before.  I was just wondering if there were any specific ones.04:32
Maikeruoh04:32
thellamaor pricegrabber.com04:32
MaikeruNot sure, I prefer froogle myself04:32
juanejwhat bittorrent client do u use ppl?04:32
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MaikeruAzureus04:32
abbot45thanks04:32
abbot45Azureus is the best04:32
MaikeruWhen ya get on froogle sort from low to high04:32
thellamay?04:32
disasmMaikeru: your not 64 bit right?04:32
Maikerudisasm, no04:32
Maikeruabbot45, sort from low to high and then there's a thing to set min and max price, sometimes you'll want a minimum to block out unwanted things (extra accessories, etc.)04:33
thellamacan anyone hear me?04:33
durtgnome bittorrent04:33
Maikeruthellama, yes, Azureus is the best04:33
thellamabut y?maybe i should install it04:33
robertbbMarioC, Will I lose all of my settings if I do rm ~/.gaim ?04:33
MaikeruGreat GUI04:33
MaikeruEasy to use04:34
Maikeruwas my first BT client04:34
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MaikeruI tried gnome BT and it wasn't nearly as nice04:34
thellamawhat about bittorent?04:34
thellamay?04:34
MaikeruWhat do you mean, "what about bittorent?"04:34
thellamay isnt it good?04:34
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MaikeruWhy isn't the gnome one good?04:35
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thellamayup04:35
MaikeruI didn't care for the design04:35
thellamaah ok :004:35
johndarkhorserobertbb yes you will04:35
sml12is there a simple ubuntu package search website?04:35
Maikerudidn't seem to give as much info04:35
abbot45Maikeru, thanks.  looks like $45 is about the lowest.04:35
Maikeruabbot45, no problem04:35
Maikeruthank you for asking04:35
Maikerugave me something to do04:35
Maikeru:)04:35
thellama:)04:35
MaikeruI'm sitting here bored out of my mind04:35
Maikeruand am not gonna do homework04:35
Maikerutoo lazy04:35
thellamaheh04:35
MaikeruI'm hoping Seveas will show up04:35
MaikeruHe seems idle right now :(04:36
thellamahmm04:36
abbot45So I've know that lots of people put custom firmware on this WRT54g.  What are some of the things you can do?04:36
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FatDarrelabbot45, ssh, nfs, iptables etc ...04:36
disasmMaikeru: appears adm821104:36
MaikeruDWL-650 Revision P04:37
theturtlehey is there a e17ubuntu ? :D04:37
Maikeruhmm04:37
disasmabbot45: run a webserver, custom firewall, general server, etc04:37
FatDarrelabbot45, its not as great as it looks but it is fun i played around for some time then i quit because it was not doing anything great for me04:37
abbot45so in other words, nothing thats really going to be that usefull to me as a regular computer / internet user.04:37
MaikeruI like http://www.ubuntuguide.org04:37
Maikeru:)04:37
FatDarrelabbot45, hmmm.... yes no maybe04:37
FatDarrelchoose your fav ans.04:37
fivetwentysixWhats the biggest difference between 64bit and 32bit?04:37
zeus1_disasm wat do i do now...ur killall esd didnt fix tthe problem :(04:37
sml12theturltle: you could easily find out if somebody can help with my question?04:37
FatDarrelfivetwentysix, the largest allowable file system size04:38
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fivetwentysixHmm04:38
fivetwentysix?04:38
abbot45But modding aside.  Its the most solid router out there for the $?04:38
fivetwentysixSorry i'm stupid on this topic04:38
disasmis xmms open?04:38
disasmor any other program using the sound card?04:39
MaikeruYou know what's pissed me off today?04:39
MaikeruCedega04:39
MaikeruI go to play counter-strike or star wars jedi knight II: jedi outcast04:39
Maikeruand when I go to the internet play area04:39
Maikeruit connects04:39
Maikerubut as soon as it's ready to load the map04:39
fivetwentysixand crash!04:39
Maikeruit crashes04:39
fivetwentysixyayyyayayay04:39
TortelJK2=fun04:39
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MaikeruIt's like the most annoying thing ever04:40
Torteldoes it run on linux??04:40
fivetwentysixTortel only with a Windows emulator04:40
Tortelwine?04:40
Maikeruif you use Cedega/WineX04:40
Tortel:(04:40
fivetwentysixSuch as cedega, head over to transgaming.com04:40
fivetwentysixfor more details04:40
Tortelwhats the command to delete a file?04:40
zeus1_disasm: no...just X-Chat IRC...the terminal and mozilla firefox04:40
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sml12Tortel:  #rm ....04:41
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Tortelyay04:41
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disasmzeus1_: try killall artsd maybe04:42
phrizerhm, would there be a reason why, or is it normal under linux/gnome for my CPU usage to go right to 100% when i quickly drag a window around? or when i move my mouse quickly it goes up to nearly 50%..? as windows xp didnt  spike  that high im sure.04:42
disasmphrizer: i dont have that problem04:43
Maikerurawr04:43
phrizerhmm\04:44
pauldaoustoh murphy.... I am going to shoot this stupid computer04:44
sml12is there a website to search ubuntu packages?04:44
pauldaoustwith a FRICKIN' TWELVE GAUGE; what do you think?04:44
pauldaoustgosh...04:44
Tortelthere is a way to do that in ubuntu04:44
pauldaoustTortel: to shoot the computer with a frickin' twelve-gauge?04:44
Maikerupauldaoust, I was saying that forever04:44
Maikeruthis morning04:44
pauldaoustMaikeru: these machines have a way of making you feel that way, eh? :)04:44
thellamawhat advantages does breezy have? any reason why i should updgrade?04:44
thellamaanyone? im thinking of installing breezy instead of hoary but want to know if it's worth the risk04:44
thellamayo...04:44
Madpilotsml12: you can search everything via Synaptic, or go to packages.ubuntu.com04:45
TortelAplications/System tools/add or remove stuff, advanced04:45
MaikeruOh I wanted to hit the laptop with a hammer04:45
pauldaoustthellama: clipboard manager... yummy :)04:45
Maikerufucking wireless WON'T work04:45
MaikeruAt all04:45
sml12thellama: for sure ... i have with no problems04:45
fivetwentysixSigh I got to install java04:45
MaikeruIt absolutely REFUSES04:45
pauldaoustthellama: I think it has gstreamer 0.9 with DVD support too04:45
Maikerustubborn SOB04:45
pauldaoustMaikeru: can't help ya there; I don't have wireless04:45
pauldaoust(wish I did tho)04:45
MaikeruNo you don't04:45
vader1102Maikeru, mine worked out of the box04:45
Maikeruyou wish you were wired04:45
Maikeruer04:45
pauldaoustha04:45
pauldaoust:)04:45
Maikeruare glad you are wired04:45
MaikeruWired works instantly04:46
MaikeruWireless always takes me forever to get working04:46
Maikeruvader1102, how much did ya pay for it?>04:46
Madpilotcat5 rock... ;)04:46
MaikeruI paid $20 for each of my devices04:46
vader110235.0004:46
pauldaoustyou're not the first with wireless problems04:46
Madpilot*rocks, even...04:46
Maikeru$20 for USB and $20 for PCMCIA04:46
MaikeruSee, $35 I would spend04:46
Maikerufor it to work out of box04:46
pauldaoustmy problem is that I can't seem to get sound working... properly.04:46
MaikeruI just can't spen $50+ on a wireless card04:46
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MaikeruI hate doing that04:46
vader1102dwl-g65004:46
MaikeruI have dwl-65004:46
sml12Madpilot: cool .. thanks. :)04:46
disasmMaikeru: whats your output of iwconfig?04:46
MaikeruNot 650+, no, of course not04:46
Maikerubut 65004:46
vader110265004:47
Maikerulo no wireless04:47
FatDarrelMaikeru, get the atheros a/b/g NEC PWL something card on ebay04:47
vader1102not the +04:47
Maikerusit0 no wireless04:47
thellamaso would you all recommend me updgrading to breezy as a linux noob? (although i do call myself an osx power user 8)04:47
pauldaoustit works, but it's soooo slow and drawn-out that it sounds like a horror film... I've been looking everywhere for the solution; watching top as the X session starts up, looking for a program that could be causing the problem...04:47
pauldaoustbecause the weird thing is that sound starts out great, then goes slow a few seconds into session startup.04:47
Tortelgah04:47
FatDarrelI have had wirless problems only with the cisco cards most of the other crap seems to work or kind of works04:47
Tortelenemy terrotory doesnt work04:47
Tortel:(04:47
MaikeruI want to strangle d-link04:47
Maikeruthis card is such a bitch04:47
disasmwhat about modprobe adm821104:47
FatDarrelTortel, good game but old get something new04:48
MaikeruI can't even have it to have a MMCX port04:48
Tortelit lowers my resolution and leaves a black spot on my screen04:48
FatDarrelMaikeru, what chipset ?04:48
Maikeru(I've tried, you can see knife marks on the bottom :))04:48
MaikeruFatDarrel, no idea04:48
thellamaso then maybe i shouldnt upgrade...04:48
MaikeruI can't find out which04:48
Maikerubut I'm trying to use the ndiswrapper04:48
MaikeruIt's the DWL-650 Revision P04:48
FatDarrelMaikeru, what type of card ?04:48
Maikerubut I dunno which chipset04:48
Tortelshit04:48
MaikeruPCMCIA/Cardbus04:48
FatDarrelMaikeru, try ndiswrapper04:48
Tortelthis isnt good04:48
MaikeruI'd say it's a cardbus not pcmcia04:48
MaikeruI did04:48
MaikeruI did pcmcia04:48
Torteli cant acess my gnome menus04:48
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Torteland i cant quit ET04:49
Maikeruseveas told me to apt-get install linux-68604:49
Maikeruso I did04:49
vader1102Maikeru, the dwl-g650 has worked awsome for me under Ubuntu04:49
Maikerubut it will refuses to work04:49
Maikeruvader1102, I envy you04:49
thellamapoll: should i updgrade to breezy?04:49
vader1102one sec and I will tell you the kernel04:49
disasmthellama: i'm a seasoned linux guy, and i'm still using hoary (i tried the breezy installer and something was seriously broken, to the point i couldn't execute a binary using ./name_of_binary (i was trying to run firefox from a nightly release)04:49
Tortelhow do i safely reboot without acess to anything but XChat??04:49
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vader1102Maikeru, 2.6.10-5-38604:50
Tortelor term a process???04:50
thellamathanks disasm04:50
Maikeruvader1102, I've tried this ndiswrapper on that and on 2.6.10-5-38604:50
Maikerulol04:50
MaikeruSoooooo annoying04:50
MaikeruI need Seveas to respond04:50
Maikerubut he seems to be idle04:50
TortelheLP~!!04:50
MaikeruHe was helping me earlier and I think he might be able to get this goin for me04:50
vader1102I did mine with the stock madwifi04:51
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Torteli cant acess gnome04:51
zeus1_disasm: didint work04:51
Tortelcause of enemy territory04:51
Tortel:(04:51
thellamai just installed firestarter, how do i start it?04:51
yonkel-lappyi still cannot get my lcd to engage04:51
disasmzeus1_: hmmm, you have something locking the module...04:51
Maikeruwhat's firestarter?04:51
thellamafirewall04:51
Maikeruoh04:51
vader1102Maikeru,  he may have gone to sleep, he has been in here every time I have been and stayed when I left04:51
MaikeruI knew I heard that somewhere04:51
Maikerudarn04:51
thellama:)04:51
disasmonly thing i can think of is ctrl-alt-bksp to kill x, then rmmod it from cli, and go back into X04:52
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Maikeru:)04:52
thellamaphone # online huh?04:52
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MaikeruLooking for his house phone04:52
Maikerulol04:52
thellamalol04:52
MaikeruCall him in the middle of the night for support04:52
thellamareally?04:52
MaikeruNo04:52
MaikeruOf course not04:52
thellamahehehe04:52
MaikeruI enjoy being allowed in this chan04:52
disasmMaikeru: i believe it should be running, theres a config utility somewhere in the menus, i never used it before though04:52
Torteldoes the command "reboot" in the terminal reboot safely????!?04:52
Drajka;/ is there a reason that most/all the apps I install aren't ending up on the applications menu?04:53
Maikerudisasm, a config file for networking?04:53
MaikeruSystem > Administration > Networking?04:53
disasmTortel: yeah04:53
thellamaDrajka: ya, why is that happenikng to me?04:53
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MaikeruDrajka: Yeah, they don't add themselves04:53
Tortelok04:53
Tortelill brb04:53
Maikerubut use Smeg to add them yourself04:53
vader1102Tortel, if you do it like sudo /sbin/reboot -h now04:53
thellamaso how do i add them Maikeru?04:53
thellamaoh04:53
DrajkaSmeg?04:53
thellamasorry04:53
MaikeruUse a program called smeg04:53
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thellamadidnt see that04:54
Maikeruit's a menu editing program04:54
DrajkaI mean.. the problem for me is... I'll install something with synaptic..04:54
Maikerusudo apt-get install smeg04:54
MaikeruYeah04:54
IcemanV9Drajka: killall gnome-panel?04:54
DrajkaBut I often wont remember I installed it04:54
Drajkaand i'll never find it.04:54
disasmMaikeru: that comment was for thellama with his firestarter04:54
Maikeruso add it right away04:54
Maikerudisasm, oh04:54
thellamathanks :)04:54
zeus1_disasm: wat was the command again when i did ctrl alt bksp it logged out of linux04:54
thellamaah, i found firestarter in system tools!04:54
disasmzeus1_: it kills X04:55
Maikerunow04:55
zeus1_whats X04:55
Maikerusince I don't have wireless working on my laptop04:55
disasmzeus1_: the problem is if you have gdm running, gdm, will come right back up...04:55
MaikeruGive me a minute while I go shoot myself.04:55
MaikeruGood day.04:55
MaikeruIf you want to get into a console press Ctrl-Alt-F1-F5 or somethin like that04:55
zeus1_disasm whats X04:55
MaikeruF6 or F7 is gdm04:55
Maikeruzeus1_, it's the server that allows gdm to run, etc.04:56
pauldaoustzeus1_: X is the server that gives you graphics instead of text04:56
Maikeruit's a display server basically04:56
MaikeruNow, brb while I shoot myself (rather, I should just shoot this ANNOYING!!! wireless card)04:56
zeus1_k04:56
zeus1_what was the command04:56
zeus1_rmmod something04:56
disasmzeus1_: you can always try ctrl alt f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop; rmmod snd-intel8x004:57
disasmzeus1_: X is the graphical version of linux04:57
zeus1_ok its not working :(04:58
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thellamahelp, im sorta new to firewalls and stuff (in osx it's basically just automatic), what ports should i enable?04:58
pauldaoustI'm really sorry I keep whining about this, but is there anyone, anyone who can help a poor guy with ALSA problems?04:58
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pauldaousta guy who has to set up about twenty computers in a classroom network before school starts on Tuesday?04:58
disasmthellama: well, i've never used a firewall on a desktop, just don't run any services and you'll be fine04:58
thellamawhat kind of services?04:59
pauldaoustwould you at least help a guy whose mum is dying of cancer? *sniff*04:59
pauldaoustokay, so my mum isn't dying of cancer04:59
disasmthellama: webserver, mailserver, samba server, etc...04:59
thellamaah ok04:59
MaikeruSure04:59
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thellamawould torrents be ok?04:59
disasmpauldaoust: did you try an alternate wm for troubleshooting?04:59
MaikeruTell her to go party04:59
IcemanV9!tell pauldaoust about sound05:00
thellamawould it make torrents/chat/browsing slower?05:00
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pauldaoustdisasm: yes; it worked famously. so the problem is in GNOME somewhere, and I know it's not ESD05:00
pauldaoustIcemanV9: tried every last thing there05:00
thellamamaybe i should just disable firewall05:00
IcemanV9:/05:00
Maikeru!tell maikeru about sound05:00
pauldaoustanyway, my problems are all backwards... sound in Java and Flash work fine; it's everything else that doesn't work.05:00
Maikeruhmm05:00
Maikerusorry05:00
catphivehey. my gnome session is screwed up launch freezes up when trying to open metacity. the "safe" session launches fine. how do I reset my session or my startup script or whatever?05:00
Maikeruwanted to read something05:00
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zeus1_gah forget it...i gues i have to just face the fact that my headset is never going to work in linux...05:01
X6how do i create a channel?05:01
Maikeruoh lord05:01
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X6ummm...05:01
yonkel-lappyi can get gdm to start but the lcd is still blank! i am on a dell inpsiron 6000 laptop.  i tried to reconfigure and edit my xorg.conf but with no success.....05:01
thellamawould a firewall with all ports closed make my browsing/torrents slower?05:01
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disasmthellama: probly not05:02
Maikeruwtf05:02
zeus1_thanks anyway for the help...later all05:02
Maikeruhow do you get / in your host05:02
disasmthellama: errr, torrents yeah05:02
Maikeruor is that a vhost?05:02
Maikerugrm05:02
thellamaoh05:02
thellamahmm05:02
disasmthellama: cause torrents need to upload05:02
thellamatrue05:02
thellamaso firewall doesnt allow upload?05:02
thellamathen how is this all working?05:02
thellamaor does it have an upload limit?05:03
Maikeruhe said torrents would05:03
Maikeruer05:03
Maikeruwait05:03
Maikerunvm05:03
MaikeruI'm tired05:03
MaikeruI can't answer shit05:03
thellamalol05:03
Maikeruunless you want to end up with rm -rf / typed in console05:03
disasmthellama: 6881-699905:03
IcemanV9does ubuntu have mount_ufs2?? do breezy have it now?05:03
Maikeru(Which I typed earlier on my laptop, was tempted to press enter, I still might)05:03
disasmthellama: bittorent needs a port for people to download from you while you download from others, im not sure quite how it works, but i know oyu need ports open to get optimal speeds05:04
disasmMaikeru: feeling suicidal eh?05:05
Maikerudisasm, my wireless card won't work05:05
Maikeru:(05:05
disasmpauldaoust: you could ps aux before gnome starts and ps aux after and see what process differences there are05:05
thellamathanks guys/gals for all your help! :)05:06
MaikeruYou trying to call me a heshe?05:06
MaikeruBoy, I'll kick your ass! :)05:06
ToyManwondering if someone could help me with my compiler confusion....05:06
IcemanV9Maikeru: did you check the wireless support page in ubuntu wiki??05:06
MaikeruI've checked everything05:06
disasmToyMan: whats wrong?05:06
Maikeruit's possible to get this card to work05:06
ToyManI have gcc-3.3-base / gcc-3.4 / gcc-3.4 base and gcc-4.0 base installed05:06
Maikerubut one thing requires kernel recompile05:06
Maikeruand I'm not up for that05:06
ToyManbut when I try to compile anything I get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"05:07
IcemanV9ndiswrapper??05:07
Maikeruheh05:07
ToyManso I went in to bash_profiles and edited my path to include /usr/lib/gcc, where the compiler seems to be residing...05:07
MaikeruI tried ndis05:07
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pauldaoustdisasm: *sad smile* actually, I took it one step further... I log into the computer using SSH, run top, and watch exactly what programs appear and disappear as the session starts... nothing that looks significant, as far as I can see05:07
disasmMaikeru: ndiswrapper doesnt need a recompile, at least i dont think it does...05:07
ToyManand I keep getting the same error msg...05:07
wulfy814good evening folks!05:07
Maikerudisasm, I know05:07
wulfy814I'm having difficulty install server mode of Hoary on Dell PE70005:07
MaikeruI've tried ndis and it won't work05:07
MaikeruI found something else that does require kernel recompile05:07
wulfy814it's failing with a "Load installer components from CD" failure05:07
pauldaoustIcemanV9: thanks for the link, but I've tried all the standard attempts to get sound working properly already... this is one of those crazy problems that don't seem to make sense05:07
Maikerundis should work05:07
Maikeruwhich is why I wanna talk to seveas05:07
MaikeruHe was walkin me through it earlier05:08
wulfy814turn out it's something with the SATA drivers and not detecting the CDROM05:08
Maikerubut had to leave05:08
disasmpauldaoust: well if you have a list of the differences, you can kill the processes one at a time until sound returns to normal05:08
Maikeruit's like05:08
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DaveyAnyone else here have the Logitech MX 700 mouse and keyboard combo?05:08
wulfy814anyone else have this failure? or know a workaround?05:08
Maikerumy drivers are loaded05:08
Maikerupcmcia card gets power05:08
disasmpauldaoust: is it on all the machines, or just one?05:08
pauldaoustdisasm: ...05:08
wulfy814I also had Gnome-Baker recently blow up05:08
Maikerubut it seems like it just doesn't get recognized by ubuntu as being plugged in05:08
Maikerulike if I tail -f /var/log/messages05:08
Maikeruand put the card in05:08
wulfy814now it won't start - just fails and wants to send bug report05:08
Maikerunothing new happens05:08
Maikeru;/05:08
CashelHello... can anyone tell me how to ununstall something installed with alien -i ? also can I have glibc2.3.2 and 2.3.4 both installed? thanks...05:08
wulfy814must have been after the latest apt-get upgrade05:09
MaikeruCashel: try apt-get remove <name>05:09
pauldaoustdisasm: I never thought to check; I'm so busy trying to get the first computer ready that I never thought of trying the other ones... I'm gonna end up ghosting the install onto the other machines, and I wanted to get it working perfectly before I do that... but maybe I should try that out.05:09
DaveyCashel, dpkg -i you mean?05:09
CashelMaikeru: tried it, doesnt find the package...05:09
DaveyCashel, find it in Synaptic and remove it05:09
pauldaoustdisasm: (same hardware on all machines, incidentally)05:09
Cashelno alien -i ... it was an rpm ....05:09
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DaveyCashel, OK, for future reference, just do "alien *.rpm" and it'll convert to a .deb which you can manage with apt-get/synaptic05:09
disasmpauldaoust: also, possibly install kde, it's similar to gnome, and it might not have problems...05:09
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pauldaoustdisasm: there's that possibility, too, but I wanted to stick to GNOME because I'm more familiar with it and I'm the admin05:10
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: you need to open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg"  you might try the VESA driver05:10
thellama:)05:10
pauldaoustdisasm: I might have to end up doing that though..............05:10
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CashelDavey: tried that at first, could figure out how to get apt-get to reckognize it (tried the filename - the .deb part, and then minus the version parts too, no luck) .. kinda new to debian..05:10
disasmCashel: alien rpm_name.rpm then dpkg -i rpm_name.deb05:10
DaveyCashel, dpkg -i *.deb to install it05:11
MaikeruI just alien -di name.rpm05:11
Casheldpkg ahhh thanks...05:11
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: i tried to reconfigure it...no dice. my chipset should need the i810 driver as indicated here: http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html05:11
ToyMandisasm: ok, i'm finding gcc 3.4 in /usr/bin which *is* in my path05:11
Daveyyeah, its a PITA ;)05:11
thellamashould i upgrade to breezy? what are the main new things about it? new features? new gnome??05:11
CashelMaikeru: and how do you undo when you do that?05:11
Maikerualien -di turns it into .deb then installs05:11
MaikeruI think I've always found it in synaptic05:11
disasmthellama: didn't we just go through this already??? ;-)05:11
thellamayes... ;)05:11
Cashelhmm ok... what about mutltiple glibc's installed?? Is that do-able??05:12
disasmMaikeru: apt-get remove <name_of_package> can probly find it in dpkg -l05:12
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: you can check my current xorg.conf and the output of ddcprobe at http://www.bluefacemonkey.com/personal/laptop05:12
thellamabut are there any groundbreaking new things??05:12
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: the VESA driver will drive your card w/o a problem05:12
disasmMaikeru: if you really want it gon, apt-get --purge remove name_of_package05:12
Maikerudisasm, I know how to remove it05:12
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: ok let me try it and i'll get back to ya05:12
Maikeruit's cashel that din05:12
catphivehey. does anyone know about how to reset a session? mine is messed up and I can't log in to that account05:12
catphivea gnome session05:13
Maikeructrl-alt-backspace?05:13
CashelMaikeru: should I take that as a no? heh05:13
catphivectr-alt-backspace?05:13
MaikeruCashel: What do you mean?05:13
Maikerucatphive, press ctrl-alt-backspace05:13
Maikerushould reboot gdm05:13
Maikeru(gdm being Gnome Display Manager)05:13
disasmToyMan: you get the error when you run make? or is this running gcc in general?05:13
catphivethanks. I'll give that a shot05:14
Cashel<Maikeru> it's cashel that din ??? Didnt follow you...05:14
MaikeruOh, I was telling disasm that you didn't know how to uninstall a package after you used alien, not I05:14
Maikeruhe got us mixed up05:14
CashelOhhh right, thanks :)05:14
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ramblingturtlehow would i go about upgrading to breezy from hoary?05:15
Cashelso are multiple glibc versions ok?? Or will it cause nightmarish problems for me? (or can I symlink 2.3.2 to 2.3.4 and pray it works out?)05:15
ramblingturtlewith lets say apt-get or something05:15
IcemanV9!tell ramblingturtle about upgrade05:15
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disasmramblingturtle: i would advice against it, but switch sources.list to breezy, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade - but dont say i didnt warn you...05:16
disasms/advice/advise05:16
ramblingturtledisasm thank you05:16
ToyMandisasm: i get the error when running configure05:16
disasmpauldaoust: another idea, pull the hd out of the current computer, plop it in another, and see if it works05:17
disasmwhat are you configuring?05:17
Cashelis breezy "stable" ?05:17
ToyMana prg called taskjuggler05:17
disasmCashel: not by a long shot ;-)05:17
CashelAhh good05:17
IcemanV9!breezy05:17
ubotuI heard breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/05:17
johndarkhorseToyMan:  install 'build-essential"05:17
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disasmToyMan: do have gcc installed? try which gcc05:18
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yonkel-lappyomg it works05:19
bytefoowhy do all my dvds look interlaced05:19
disasmor possibly its in c++ and you need g++...05:19
yonkel-lappyIT WORKS05:19
bytefooeven though i have deinterlace on :(05:19
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: YAY! it works05:19
bytefooin totem :(05:19
ToyManI have gcc-3.3-base / gcc-3.4 / gcc-3.4 base and gcc-4.0 base installed05:19
disasmyonkel-lappy: what works?05:19
ToyManwhich gcc returns zip05:19
yonkel-lappydisasm: the lcd on my monitor05:20
disasmah, cool05:20
durtyou might need glib or gtk or something05:20
Drajkapff.05:20
disasmit should return /usr/bin/gcc05:20
DrajkaI can't get fsking DVDs to work in Ubuntu05:20
jroesanyone's totem just crash while playing music?05:21
jroeslike, it'll play 3/4 of a song and just crash?05:21
vader1102I can't get mine to play MP3 format lol05:21
jroesand... can anyone play mp3s off of a cd in rhthymbox?05:21
durt!restricted05:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:21
IcemanV9jroes: install bmp :)05:21
ToyMandisasm: if i look in /usr/bin, gcc-3.4 is there05:21
jroesbeep media player?05:22
jroesoh that's right05:22
ToyManbrb05:22
Casheljroes: I couldnt off of an ext3 drive :P05:22
jroesactually I know the author a little bit ;)05:22
disasmToyMan: yes, but its looking for gcc, not gcc-3.405:22
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disasmToyMan: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc05:23
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disasmthen try configure05:23
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: good show!05:23
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: thank you so much. i am really pleased05:23
Cashelthe multiverse?!?!? Oh no! Necromongers!05:24
yonkel-lappyCashel: hehe. good film05:25
Cashelyeah... different certainly...05:26
witlessit seems my canon eos350d is not supported in hoary.  is there any way to access the photos on it?05:28
IcemanV9card reader?05:29
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ToyMandisasm: I think the build-essential suggestion did it05:31
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ebowlescan somebody help me getting 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250 card?05:32
Cashelebowles: don't know ubuntu that well but I've done it for my 9600 pro in other distros... whats the problem?05:33
Maikeruhmm05:34
Maikerutime to learn more C++ I guess05:34
ebowlesCashel - I'm not sure. I've followed the instructions on the wiki several times and looked everywhere on the net, still can't get it05:34
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Cashelyou change the driver from ati to fglrx?05:34
ebowlesyes05:34
Cashelor is it fglx?05:35
Cashelwhat happens when you startx?05:35
ebowleswhat do you mean?05:35
disasmnight all, im off to bed...05:36
CashelWell.. traditionaly one starts xwindows using startx .... if it fails to load it will give you a message, as well as putting info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors05:36
ramblingturtlenight05:36
ebowlesyes, its booting fine with fglrx as the driver05:36
ebowleshttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=182812305:36
ebowleshas my xorg.conf05:37
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Cashelebowles: I think perhaps you need to comment out Load "glx" and the "DRI" section...05:39
ebowlesokay, let me restart05:41
Cashelwish I still had my old x config file, I'd know for sure then....05:41
ebowlesbrb05:41
Cashelebowles: you dont need to restart linux you know...05:41
ramblingturtlecashel i guess ebowies didnt know05:42
Cashelheh05:42
Cashelwell maybe he's using xchat and just had to shut that down....05:42
Casheleither way hope someone can help him because I have to go pick up my brother, lol05:43
Cashelthanks for the help folks :)05:43
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rileyschuitCould someone help me with a sound problem?05:46
ramblingturtleu might want to just state what the problem is05:46
rileyschuitok, well i have a ac97 soundcard in my laptop and think I have tried everything to try to get it going05:47
BenMguys, on breezy i get an error "package ubuntu-quickguide is not available, but is referred to by another package."05:47
BenMwhat should I do about this05:47
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rileyschuitis there somewhere I should start?05:50
johndarkhorserileyschuit: have you been to wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary    ?05:50
rileyschuiti have checked the wiki and it told me to get the alsa drivers, it failed05:51
rileyschuitbut I will check that exact site05:51
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ebowlesno luck05:52
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catphivehey, does anyone know where the gnome startup script is located and what it's called?05:53
garycwhat architecture is a pentium 2 processor?05:53
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GroMmiThello?05:53
robertbbWhat's the best way to get codecs for totem?05:53
benplaut!codecs05:53
ubotucodecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:53
robertbbRad, thanks! :-)05:54
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GroMmiTHi robertbb, can you see me?05:54
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ebowlescan anybody help me get 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250? I feel like I've tried everything thing05:54
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benplautGroMmiT, you're on05:54
robertbbHmm. Can't even access that site. Get some weird certificate error.05:55
catphivedoes anyone know where the gnome startup script is located?05:55
benplautrobertbb, just click OK to it, firefox complains about the wiki05:55
yonkel-lappyis the transition to kubuntu-desktop easy?05:55
benplautapt-get install kubuntu desktop05:56
robertbbI did click OK..05:56
robertbbCliking OK does nothing :-S05:56
benplauti dunno... always worked for me...05:56
GroMmiTahh thanks!05:56
robertbbAlways worked for me too05:56
robertbbheh05:56
robertbbWhat's the general jist?05:57
robertbbHow do I get the codecs for it?05:57
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john2389hello05:58
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puzzleis anyone here05:58
ebowlescan anybody help me get 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250? I feel like I've tried everything thing05:59
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ramblingturtlepuzzle not really i think05:59
puzzlelol05:59
Madpilot!tell ebowles about ati05:59
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: kubuntu is easy to install05:59
ebowlesMadpilot - been there done that05:59
wickedpuppycd plone06:00
wickedpuppyops06:00
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right? it's not going to overwrite any of the x stuff i just hacked to get working right?06:00
Madpilotebowles: check this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ - I'm not sure the ATI stuff works with a 9250 card06:01
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matthew_wHey06:01
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: no it wont06:01
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matthew_wI added the thing to automount my FAT32 drive but...06:01
yonkel-lappyjohndarkhorse: sweet. i'm doing it06:01
ebowlesMadPilot - yes I've done those too :/06:01
matthew_wNow when I try to write to it it says "cannot write it's on a read only drive"06:01
puzzlehow do u make a dir in terminal06:02
ramblingturtlemkdir06:02
Madpilotebowles: huh. the default Mesa 3d drivers didn't work for you? (I've got a 9600XT, so I do use the /ATI instructions, not sure about your card)06:02
matthew_wHow would I change it so these things are no longer "read only drives"06:02
ebowlesMadpilot - nope, the mesa ones don't work, thats whats there now06:02
ebowlesmadpilot and everything I've read says I need to change that06:03
Madpilotebowles: check the ubuntu forums?06:03
ramblingturtlepuzzle it would be mkdir then whereever you wanted the dir06:03
ebowlesmadpilot - yes, and posted06:03
ramblingturtlelike /home/blahblah06:03
matthew_wHow do you mount FAT32 drives in fstab so that they are not "read only" and for that matter, where IS fstab.06:04
ramblingturtlelook at me ma i answered a ?06:04
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johndarkhorse!tell matthew_w  about ntfs06:04
yonkel-lappyis ubuntu setup to play dvds?06:05
matthew_wjohn; it's got nothing to do with NTFS, they're FAT32 drives.06:05
robertbbyonkel-lappy, yep06:05
johndarkhorsematthew_w: run that script ubotu sent you a link to06:05
matthew_wjohndarkhorse; it's got nothing to do with NTFS, they're FAT32 drives.06:05
johndarkhorseyonkel-lappy: you need to read this06:05
johndarkhorse!tell yonkel-lappy about restricted06:05
matthew_wAnd I realize fat32 is there06:05
matthew_wI already ran the winmac_fstab script.06:06
matthew_wThey're mounted... they're just read only for some reason.06:06
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johndarkhorsematthew_w: the script works on ntfs, fat32, and hfs+06:06
chibifsyonkel-lappy - Totem does it, but not very good. Install xine-ui, and run xine dvd:///media/cdrom06:06
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johndarkhorsematthew_w: then modify your fstab to read/write06:06
chibifsIf that doesn't work, you'll need the restricted stuff.06:06
matthew_wwhere is FSTab?06:06
GoIrishit's /etc/fstab06:07
johndarkhorsematthew_w: /etc/fstab06:07
matthew_wThanks.06:07
johndarkhorsematthew_w: be careful cuz you can mess your system up with the wrong values in the fstab06:07
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matthew_wIt already says this06:08
matthew_w/dev/hdb1 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdb1) vfat rw,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 006:08
matthew_wSo shouldn't it already be read-write?06:09
matthew_wI'm trying to download something to that drive and it says "Cannot save FILENAME because it is on a read-only disk."06:09
bur[n] ermatthew_w: your numbers are off... should only be 3 of them06:09
bur[n] erhere's mine:  /dev/hda4       /mnt/hda4 vfat auto,user,uid=000,gid=000,umask=000   0 006:10
bur[n] ermatthew_w: for reference, run 'man mount'06:11
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matthew_wbur[n] er which numbers are you referring to?06:11
ebowlescan anybody tell me how I can make it so I don't have to manually enable dma every time I restart?06:11
bur[n] ermatthew_w: look at mine and look at yours06:11
bur[n] erebowles: check the wiki06:12
bur[n] er!dma06:12
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matthew_wbur[n] er ... paste em then :D06:12
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bur[n] ermatthew_w: i did06:12
bur[n] er:P06:12
matthew_woops06:12
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ebowlesbur[n] er - doesn't tell me how to make it so it auto-enabled06:12
bur[n] ertell ebowles about dma06:13
matthew_wbur[n] er - perhaps I'm stupid, lol, I don't see what's wrong.06:13
ebowlesyea thanks bur[n] er I've been there06:13
matthew_wBesides, winmac_fstab added this automatically.06:13
matthew_wThe problem is when I try to save to it it says "Error, cannot save FILENAME because it is on a read only disk"06:13
bur[n] ermatthew_w: you're kidding... see your dmask & fmask, you have 4 number, it expects 306:13
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catphiveanyone know much about gnome?06:14
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matthew_wbur[n] er - Why would winmac_fstab give me faulty values?06:14
bur[n] erebowles: read that page more thoroughly06:14
matthew_wbur[n] er - also, which should I truncate, the beginning 0?06:14
helloyoi am using a program which uses the paralell port through wine, but it cannot detect my advice, any help?06:14
bur[n] ermatthew_w: you tell me, run man mount06:14
ramblingturtlecarphive define much?06:15
ebowlesbur[n] er - wow you're helpful, thanks06:16
catphivegnome freezes up for me during launch, but launches fine under "failsafe" session06:16
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(mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence i am currently chatting from windoze of the same machine.... if I have to try something out, i need to reboot !! :(06:32
(pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: i810 supports the i810, i810-DC100, i810e, i815, 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G and 915G chipsets.06:32
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(johndarkhorse/#ubuntu) pestilence: you get rid of in, in my opinion06:32
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(Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) tritumI know you would know06:32
(Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) the TK module perl related I guess06:32
(tritium/#ubuntu) Dr_Fate: know what?06:32
(Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) I have to edit it06:32
(pestilence/#ubuntu) johndarkhorse: not really an option.06:32
(mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence: so what exactly do I need to do..if I want to do everything again.06:32
(pestilence/#ubuntu) johndarkhorse: not my machine. they want windows too06:32
(tritium/#ubuntu) Dr_Fate: no, sorry. Not something I'd know about06:32
(mnssk/#ubuntu) i dont care low res, but I want to see something !!06:32
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(menaherann/#ubuntu) tritium: well i don't know what are you talking about, but on the control valume i can see my Creative audigy06:33
(pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: it sounds like you are already trying i81006:33
(pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/i810.4.html06:33
(mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence: yes I am already trying that06:33
tritiummenaherann: okay.  Have you tried verifying that your volume settings aren't muted?06:33
menaherannyes06:33
tritiumand the proper modules are loaded?06:34
mnsskpestilence: Mine is an LCD WIDESCREEN monitor06:34
mnsskdoes that matter?06:34
mnsskpestilence: i dont understand what exactly I need to put in my xorg.conf06:34
menaheranntritium: i'll try it agian just to be sure06:35
pestilencemnssk: i have a widescreen too. i had to use 855resolution to get that to work properly06:35
tritiummenaherann: try what?06:35
menaheranntritium: nothing muted over here!06:35
menaheranntritium: nothing muted over here!06:35
Madpilotback in a bit, need to restart Opera...06:35
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pestilencemnssk: possibly a inspiron 6000?06:36
tritiummenaherann: okay.06:36
pestilencemnssk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4442606:36
johndarkhorsepestilence: windows can be run on fat3206:36
menaheranntritium: btw: newbie over here....(sorry)06:36
tavobarrientoshi06:36
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tritiummenaherann: no worries06:37
matthew_wHey everyong06:37
pestilencemnssk: please no pm06:37
matthew_wI took burner's advice and fixed my stuff, the fmask, dmask etc.  But it still doesn't work.06:37
pestilencejohndarkhorse: yes, but then you can't have file permissions.06:37
pestilenceright/06:37
mnsskpestilence : sorry, i thought if you PM, the "nick :" thing comes automatically, and u can see my mesgs in red06:37
matthew_wI still can't write to the FAT32 filesystem.06:37
mnsskpestilence: did not know u were typing my name06:37
matthew_wSame error "Read only disk"06:37
pestilencemnssk: yes :)  my irc client highlights your name if you prefix a message with pestilence:06:38
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matthew_wAny further suggestions?06:38
mnsskpestilence: then its fine. i thought you were pm-ing me and so i get it red06:38
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pestilencemnssk: nope.06:38
mnsskpestilence: i dont see anyting from the second link06:39
mnsskpestilence: sorry..checked only the first page..lemme see the others06:39
menaheranntritium: are you there?06:40
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pestilencemnssk: well, there seems to be some success using the "vesa" driver.06:40
tritiummenaherann: for a bit longer, yes.06:40
robertbbHow can I find out what video drivers my machine is currently using?06:40
yonkel-lappyis there an equivilent to debian-chroot in ubuntu?06:40
mnsskpestilence, where can I get a sample xorg.conf file from !! i am tired of writing it hundreds of times..06:40
masterlokiHi there it seems that ubuntuguide.org is broken and I can't install mplayer and mp3 ripping06:40
menaheranntritium: can you think on anything else that might be going on with my sound issue?06:41
pestilencemnssk: dpkg-reconfigure?06:41
mnsskpestilence,  did that atleast 10 times06:41
tritiummenaherann: not sure...06:41
masterlokiwhere can I find a new manual06:41
mnsskpestilence,  and also one thing :: the error says :: BUS ON PCI 0:2:0 has some problem06:41
pestilencemnssk: well, what i would do is cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig06:41
pestilencemnssk: then edit xorg.conf...06:41
mnsskpestilence, yeah i did that06:41
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mnsskpestilence, can I use the xorg.conf posted here :: just advice me :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44426&page=3&pp=1006:42
matthew_wI cannot write to my FAT32 disks because when mounted in FSTAB they yield the error "cannot copy file to location because it is a read only disk"06:42
pestilencemnssk: i would give it a shot.  do you know what version bios you have?06:42
matthew_wErrorno3006:42
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mnsskI think I have a A05 or A0706:43
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mnsskpestilence,  can I check it via windows ?06:43
pestilencemnssk: you should check the pci busid with lspci...06:43
pestilencemnssk: no idea.06:43
mnsskpestilence, can i find it from windows somehow ?06:43
Madpilotook. tweaking Opera's filter lists is entertaining... ;)06:44
mnsskpestilence, I checked lspci too..lspci lists something which i dont understand :(06:44
Madpilotmanaged to filter myself out of *everything* with one typo06:44
mnsskpestilence, lspci says the bus is at 0000:00:2a06:44
mnsskpestilence,  or something like that....and the bus I gave is 0:2:0 -- is that a format difference ? or is it a different number that I am looking at..i dont know06:44
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pestilencemnssk: i'm not sure.06:46
mnsskpestilence, yeah..the BUS Is correct06:46
mnsskpestilence, i have checked it in windos06:47
mnsskpestilence, i will tell you my bios now06:47
mnsskpestilence, pls give me 2 min06:47
masterlokiHi there it seems that ubuntuguide.org is broken and I can't install mplayer and mp3 ripping06:47
masterlokiwhere can I find a new manual06:47
johndarkhorsemasterloki: ubuntuguide is always broken, please dont use it06:47
mrimbertmasterloki: the wiki06:47
masterloki_06:47
masterlokiOk06:47
mrimbertsee the UserDocumentation in the topic06:47
Madpilot!ubuntuguide06:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.06:47
masterlokithanks06:48
mnsskpestilence, i think my bios is A05 only06:48
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mnsskpestilence, shall I try this xorg.conf and get back to you ?06:48
Madpilotthat ubuntuguide entry really should point people to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - that's were all the useful-to-newbies stuff begins, really06:49
regeyawho runs ubuntuguide, anyway06:50
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Madpilotno idea06:50
mnsskpestilence, you there ?06:50
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hajaWhat do you guys use to play movie files in Linux? I used Mplayer and it works pretty good but I was looking for something a little less flashy and such...06:50
MadpilotI gather there was some co-operation with the official Ubuntu doc teams at one point, but it's stopped since... too bad06:50
Madpilothaja: Totem, no flash at all. It "just works"...06:51
chibifsDoes anyone have mark's email? I have a serious question for him, and I'm afraid to call him. :P06:51
mnsskpestilence, but you can see something on the screen of inspiron 6000 is it ?06:51
hajaI've had problems with Totem... maybe I need to download some plugins...?06:51
chibifshaja - totem-xine06:51
hajaDownload that?06:52
chibifsXine is a much more established movie player than gstreamer.06:52
hajaOk so should I remove the totem that isbased off gstreamer?06:52
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chibifsIf you want to use it to play movies, yes. :P06:52
Madpilot!tell haja about restricted06:52
Madpilothaja: the URL ubotu just sent you has all the codec/plugin info you need06:53
mnsskpestilence, okay06:53
mnsskpestilence, i will reboot..try the xorg.conf and get back to you06:53
mnsskpestilence, thanx for the help...06:53
hajaOk but do you use xine or gstreamer?06:53
robertbbHow can I tell what version of XOrg is running?06:53
hajaWhen I go to remove the gstreamer it says its wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also....06:55
johndarkhorsehaja: that is fine, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapkg06:55
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Agrajagdon't remove gstreamer06:56
Agrajagdon't remove gstreamer06:56
Agrajaginstall totem-xine06:56
hajajust install it and don't remove the other?06:56
Agrajagit'll remove totem-gstreamer for you06:56
hajaho06:56
hajaok06:56
hajaoh*06:56
hajaThanks06:56
Agrajagyes, you need gstreamer for other things06:56
Agrajaglike rhythmbox, if you use that06:56
chibifshaja - that's normal, just remember to re-check ubuntu-desktop between system upgrades06:56
hajano... I use BMP06:56
hajaok thanks chibifs06:57
Agrajaghaja: well in any case there's no reason to remove it06:57
hajahehe06:57
hajathanks :D06:57
Agrajagjust install totem-xine and it'll be done with, and you'll still have ubuntu-desktop06:57
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h17m4nWhats a good download manager for linux?07:02
h17m4nhaving to start dls over is a pain07:02
chibifsd4x07:03
Madpiloth17m4n: doesn't Firefox's DL manager do that? (although FF's DLmngr is by FAR the worst feature of that browser...)07:03
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h17m4nit doesn't07:03
h17m4nmy connection went down and I had to log in again07:04
h17m4nI was dling a file on ff07:04
h17m4n83%07:04
h17m4nand it won't resume07:04
Madpiloth17m4n: get Opera, it's got a great DL manager included... supports resumes, etc07:04
johndarkhorseh17m4n: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html07:04
pestilenceh17m4n: firefox supports resumes too, no?07:04
pestilenceh17m4n: just open the dl manager (tools...downloads) and right click...resume07:04
johndarkhorseh17m4n: i love wget, it rocks. (and resumes)07:05
johndarkhorseMadpilot: eeewww, Opera isn't FOSS07:05
MadpilotFirefox's basic DL manager is one of the major reasons I'm still an Opera user07:05
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Madpilotjohndarkhorse: no, but it's still a better browser than FF right now!07:06
johndarkhorseMadpilot: there is a download extenstion for firefox07:06
h17m4nbut opera isnt free... or is it?07:06
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volvoguyjohndarkhorse, wget will even resume a download that you started via another app, right?07:06
johndarkhorseh17m4n: it's free as in beer, not free as in freedom07:06
johndarkhorsevolvoguy: yes, unless the other app uses some weird method of d/l07:06
Madpilotjohndarkhorse: I know I could extend FF to do most of what Opera does, but Opera does all that stuff right out of the box...07:06
volvoguyh17m4n, no - Opera isn't free in any sense of the word. (unfortunately)07:07
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h17m4ntoo bad...07:07
Madpiloth17m4n: current version of Opera has a two-line text ad across the top07:07
h17m4nbecause FF's resume feature doesnt work at all07:07
h17m4nit doesnt work under windows, and it doesnt work under linux07:08
snausageshey all, im trying to download the latest live cd iso and would like to know what the best way is to do that. i hate trying to burn the iso and then finding out that it's corrupted or somethin'07:08
h17m4nit works if YOU pause it, but not if the connection goes down07:08
pestilencesnausages: use md5sum to verify the file before you burn it07:09
pestilencesnausages: man md5sum07:09
chibifsvolvoguy - Well, they did do that give out lots of free opera keys thing.07:09
Agrajagthey gave ou tthe same key to everyone07:10
chibifsThough I despise it's QTness.07:10
Agrajagand they're no longer valid07:10
volvoguychibifs, yeah, but it must have been pretty short. all i do all day is surf the web and i missed it somehow. doh!07:10
h17m4nvolvoguy, but those lines allow you to use all features or is it limited?07:10
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MadpilotAgrajag: you talking about the Opera 10th birthday party thing? that was cool, I've got ad-free Opera now!07:10
Agrajagh17m4n: it's unlimited07:11
volvoguyh17m4n, it's unlimited if you don't mind looking at the ads.07:11
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chibifsI rebooted this morning! Loving the startup screen.07:11
chibifs:D07:11
h17m4nhmm07:11
h17m4nI'll try it07:11
sockpuppe1I think I made a big mistake with openoffice07:11
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sockpuppe1as we know we have 1.1.307:11
h17m4nthx for the suggestion07:11
sockpuppe1but Im on the beta edge of life07:11
snausagespestilence, how would i use the md5sum?07:11
sockpuppe1and I wanted 2.007:12
jack-hi07:12
Madpiloth17m4n: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for Ubuntu-izing Opera07:12
volvoguysockpuppe1, i think openoffice made a mistake with openoffice. :-P i had to say it. hehe.07:12
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jack-little question07:12
snausagesyou see i'm a newb07:12
jack-Package avifile-xvid-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:12
sockpuppe1so I took all the rpms and made them into debs07:12
jack-anyone got an idea where to get that stuff?07:12
sockpuppe1lol volvoguy07:12
volvoguysockpuppe1, OO.org is at version 2 in Breezy.07:12
sockpuppe1i kno07:12
jack-its suggested by "libavifile-0.7c102"07:12
johndarkhorsejack-: you'll have to have apt-get build it for you07:13
MadpilotOOo2 is in the Hoary repos, even07:13
volvoguyI prefer abiword and gnumeric personally.07:13
sockpuppe1really?07:13
jack-johndarkhorse: how07:13
sockpuppe1madpilot how do i install07:13
jack-the line i pasted is from apt-get07:13
tritiumsockpuppe1, 2.0o betas are available as .deb packages in the repos07:13
sockpuppe1hello tritium07:13
tritiumhi sockpuppe107:13
Madpilotsockpuppe1: install what? OO2? it's in the repos, just search Synaptic07:13
johndarkhorsejack-: open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"07:13
sockpuppe1apt-get what07:14
sockpuppe1?07:14
jack-sounds good, thx07:14
johndarkhorsejack-: then type "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"07:14
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jack-just thought i might be missing a source in apt.conf maybe07:14
firebird619Can anyone suggest a program to download so I can tune and listen to radio stations from my TV Tuner Card?07:14
johndarkhorsejack-: you do have all your repos enabled?07:14
Madpilotsockpuppe1: not sure of the exact filename for OOo2, just use Synaptic's search07:14
jack-yes07:15
tritiumsockpuppe1, apt-cache search openoffice.org207:15
jack-and i added debian/stable07:15
sockpuppe1thanks07:15
johndarkhorsejack-: using debian repos WILL KILL your box07:15
jack-i had to, because of vlc :<07:16
sockpuppe1it asks to install gcc4.0-base07:16
jack-but i can remove them if you say so07:16
tritiumjack-, no07:16
sockpuppe1should I?07:16
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mnsskpestilence, you there ??07:16
sockpuppe1what you think tritium07:16
sockpuppe1?07:17
mnsskpestilence, I have tried it, and none of them worked07:17
chibifsjohndarkhorse - I've mixed distro repositories before, my hardware seems to all still be in working order :P07:17
jack-i lost my worries after i saw synaptic tags debian/stable as "officially supported"07:17
jack-heh07:17
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tritiumsockpuppe1, what tells you that?07:17
tritiumwhen you try to install openoffice.org2?07:17
sockpuppe1apt-get07:17
penticlexany one using ubunto 6407:17
sockpuppe1sure thing07:17
penticlexand know how to get java working07:18
mnsskI Have my Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf and ddcprobe output.... can anyone tell me why my Dell Inspiron is not showing anything up when X is started ? (console works)07:18
tritiumsockpuppe1, up to you07:18
sockpuppe1will it cause a problem?07:18
tritiumpenticlex, install java-package, and use make-jpkg07:18
mnsskhi there : need help badly !!07:18
johndarkhorsechibifs: it's generally a bad idea to mix debian repos with ubuntu07:18
tritiumsockpuppe1, are you using hoary or breezy?07:18
mnsskI Have my Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf and ddcprobe output.... can anyone tell me why my Dell Inspiron is not showing anything up when X is started ? (console works)07:18
sockpuppe1hoary07:18
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tritiumsockpuppe1, that sounds strange to me07:19
eggdrop408does anyone know where i can get a freeshell07:19
Madpilotpenticlex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 might help (I don't run 64 myself...)07:19
mnsskhi there07:19
mnsskanyone up for some help here..07:19
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sockpuppe1what should I do tritium07:19
adwaithello all07:19
tritiumsockpuppe1, it's up to you, dude07:20
mnsskdell inspirion 6000 with Ubunty Hoary07:20
eggdrop408hello adwait07:20
eggdrop408does anyone know?07:20
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chibifsjohndarkhorse - Well aware, but you sounded like you were trying to tell him his computer would burst into flames. :P07:20
sockpuppe1as i asked before will it screw anything up07:20
eggdrop408where i can get a shell07:20
tritiumeggdrop408, please don't repeat07:20
eggdrop408sorry tritium07:20
jack-wrong place to ask, anyway07:20
tritiumindeed07:21
pestilenceso how do ubuntu users deal with resizing ntfs partitions?07:21
johndarkhorsechibifs: with some debian pkgs, flames are quick07:21
adwaiteggdrop408: shell? which shell?07:21
pestilencebackup and wipe?  is there no better way?07:21
jack-free shells for eggdrops arent available anymore07:21
mnsskpestilence, was waiting for you.... i have got all the stuff ready now07:21
jack-:~07:21
dazvideggdrop408, you could try the beach :)07:21
pestilencemnssk: did it work?07:21
eggdrop408lol07:21
adwaithehe07:21
dazvidor just applications > system tools > terminal07:21
mnsskpestilence,  no :(07:21
eggdrop408i mean a linux shell07:21
eggdrop408who here has a linux server?07:21
dazvideggdrop408,  or just applications > system tools > terminal07:21
adwaiteggdrop408: as in bash, csh, tcsh?07:21
johndarkhorsepestilence: he wants a shell account07:21
mnsskpestilence,  i have my xorg.0.log, ddcprobe output, and xorg.conf,... can you just take a look07:21
jack-getting a free shell is a matter of trust, dude07:21
adwaiteggdrop408: u can apt-get that07:21
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adwaitooh07:22
Milk_Good evenin07:22
tritiumeggdrop408, what are you wanting to do with a shell account?07:22
Milk_does anyone here have experiance with EXIM?07:22
pestilencejohndarkhorse: i don't understand.07:22
eggdrop408i want to host a non profit organization website07:22
adwaiti believe, i had found a free shell account someplace................google it07:22
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pestilencemnssk: sure, put it on the ubuntu pastebin07:22
jack-exim sucks, use postfix? ;)07:22
mnsskpestilence, okay sure07:22
transparentdreamOk, why isn't Totem working?07:22
eggdrop408tritium, sorry...i want to host a nonporfit organization site07:22
transparentdreamIt says resource busy07:22
johndarkhorsepestilence: a shell account is an account for you on someone elses box (for development, eggdrop, etc)07:22
transparentdreamnever did that before07:22
adwaittransparentdream: maybe u can change its output plugin to something else?07:23
jack-eggdrop408: just rent a shell, its damn cheap07:23
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eggdrop408i do not have money jack07:23
transparentdreamadwait: what do you mean? How do i do that?07:23
jack-get a few of your buddies to sponsor a dollar, done07:23
mnsskpestilence,  can you tell me where the paste bin is..07:23
pestilencejohndarkhorse: who?07:23
transparentdreamSee I just installed Mplayer07:23
snausagesi dont understand where i can get the md5 files to verify my iso >:\07:23
pestilencemnssk: see /topic07:23
transparentdreamand NEITHER work now07:23
h08817how do i play a windows media file in linux07:23
eggdrop408no one has one that they could let me use07:23
eggdrop408totem07:23
h08817or a realplayer file07:23
adwaittransparentdream: umm........i don't really run totem, but i should be there somewhere in its menun07:23
johndarkhorsepestilence: n/m someone in here just asked for one07:23
Agrajagplay a realplayer file in realplayer07:24
mnsskpestilence, in www.ubuntulinux.org only right ?07:24
tritiumeggdrop408, please don't be asking for free shell accounts in here07:24
transparentdreamadwait: totem doesnt even load up...07:24
Milk_h08817, you need the gstreamer plugins07:24
eggdrop408tritium, go to hell07:24
Madpilot!tell h08817 about mp307:24
eggdrop408u dont own this07:24
pestilencehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:24
pestilenceit's in the /topic07:24
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mnsskpestilence, ok07:24
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adwaittransparentdream: try totem --disable-sound07:25
mrichmanwhere can i find repositories with mplayer skins?07:25
pestilencemnssk: are you back in windows now?  i would suggest staying in ubuntu while you are trying to figure this out, it's easier.  a good command line client for irc is irssi07:25
jack-mrichman: you cant, just google them, unpack them manually07:25
jack-same for most other skins/themes07:26
mrichmanok07:26
Madpilottritium: so much for eggdrop's "u don't own this"... ;)07:26
jack-some of ubuntu's theme managers work with archives, just give it a try07:26
johndarkhorseMadpilot: he just didnt see us for our sheeps clothing, heh07:26
tritiumoh well...07:26
jack-drop .tgz on window, maybe it works07:26
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adwaitjack-: infact, many will only accept archives07:27
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mnsskpestilence, okay...i will download it and try07:27
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Madpilotjohndarkhorse: stealth op'ing can be amusing to watch07:27
mnsskpestilence, if i get a hope that this can be solved, i am ready to do anything !!07:27
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mrichmanjack-++ thanks07:27
Milk_does anyone here have experiance with EXIM?07:27
jack-np :)07:27
J2Dopeon ubuntu i can ping sites like google.com , but i can't browse them in firefox. any idea whats up?07:27
jack-milk_ yes, but honestly, i prefer postfix a lot meanwhile07:28
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mnsskpestilence, i will download irssi and go to ubuntu07:28
jack-exim can die for all i care07:28
mnsskpestilence, i have pasted it in paste bin..07:28
adwaitJ2Dope: is your resolv.conf ok?07:28
mnsskpestilence, it says operation timed out :(07:28
mnsskpestilence, done07:28
Milk_jack-, have you ever encountered "Temporary Local Problem: Try again Later"07:29
pestilencemnssk: what timed out?  you should  install irssi from within ubuntu.... apt-get install irssi-text07:29
jack-might be a diskspace issue milk_07:29
mnsskpestilence, done07:29
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pestilencemnssk: ok.07:29
jack-make sure all the queue dirs have space07:29
Milk_hrm...07:29
mnsskpestilence, its in paste...188207:29
Milk_let me check07:29
GeorgiepooCould someone let me know what the process multiload-apple is and why it has so pleasantly decided to use approx 20 percent of my cpu?07:30
mnsskpestilence, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/188207:30
Cashelre howdies.... anyone happen to have the file hsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz stored somewhere? Could ya send it to me?07:30
mnsskpestilence, the problem is, i could not get my wireless working in ubuntu07:30
Milk_jack-, the general disk is fine.. how can I chec the que dirs?07:30
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transparentdreamTotem could not start up - resource busy or not available07:30
mnsskpestilence, so..i am sticking on to windows for internet..then a fat32 partition for saving, then mounting it in ubuntu and debugging..07:30
jack-i dont remember the paths, check your conf..07:30
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jack-/var/something iirc07:31
jack-make sure they have write permissions (for the exim user) and space07:31
pestilencemnssk: oh.07:31
jack-no quotas and stuff07:31
pestilencemnssk: sounds like you're on the edge :)07:31
snausageshow do i use md5sum to verify the file before i burn it? i dont see any md5 to be downloaded... except one or two, but i dont know how to use them.07:31
mnsskpestilence, having a tuff time :( .. was on it since 48 hours solid07:31
mnsskpestilence, :D07:31
transparentdreamcan someone help me? I installed Mplayer, and not neither Mplayer OR Totem works!07:31
Milk_hrm... I dont' see it07:32
Madpilotsnausages: which OS you using right now?07:32
mnsskpestilence, i dont know if anyone got it working on dell inspiron 6000 ....07:32
snausagesMadpilot, xp07:32
mnsskpestilence, btw, i tried fedora core 4..did not work .. then debian .. did not work .. and then this ubuntu..not working !!07:32
tritiumMadpilot, :)07:32
Madpilotsnausages: ask mr. google, I'm not sure how to generate & check md5 in XP07:33
transparentdreamcan someone help me? I installed Mplayer, and not neither Mplayer OR Totem works!07:33
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mnsskpestilence, checking it out ?07:33
pestilencemnssk: i see this:  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found07:33
jack-transparentdream: here's a workaround, just get vlc07:33
pestilencemnssk: maybe you need to change the line in xorg.conf to 0:2:1 ?07:33
transparentdreamfor linux? Where?07:33
mnsskpestilence, yeah yeah..thats the problem i guess..but dont know what to do..07:33
snausagesMadpilot, i did. i even have a program that verifies md5's i just dont see any md5 files to be downloaded from the ubuntu website that i can use to verify the iso07:33
jack-doesnt fix mplayer or totem, but gives you a great player07:33
firebird619Can anyone suggest a program to download so I can tune and listen to radio stations from my TV Tuner Card?07:33
Milk_exit07:33
jack-in debian/stable, for example07:33
transparentdreamwell yea07:33
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mnsskmnssk, ooooooooppsssss!!        i should have showed you my lspci output right ??07:34
pestilencemnssk: did you try editing xorg.conf?07:34
transparentdreamwhere can I get it, and how can I get limewire to use it?07:34
mnsskpestilence, yeah i did try !! a lot !! i did almost all possible things that i knew with xorg.conf..07:34
jack-videolan.org/download07:34
Madpilotsnausages: most of the U mirrors I've used have an "md5sum" directory, I think07:34
mnsskpestilence, also..i should have given you my lspci output07:34
mnsskpestilence, now i need to go back to ubuntu :)07:34
pestilencemnssk: with the change i suggested?07:34
mnsskpestilence, the bus ID change ?07:35
jack-set the default app for .avi etc to vlc using the gui07:35
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jack-then limewire will know it too07:35
transparentdreamkthx07:35
pestilencemnssk: and, you gave the head of the log, the tail would be much more useful (it got truncated)07:35
mnsskpestilence, thats the one thing that I did not change... cuz i did not know what to do with it..07:35
pestilencemnssk: the line that says BusID "PCI:0:2:0"07:35
mnsskpestilence, i have it..i can give you..did not know that it got truncated....07:35
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pestilencechange it to BusID "PCI:0:2:1"07:35
snausagesMadpilot, i dont see any directories, except a file without an extension and another .gpg http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/07:35
mnsskpestilence, oh...would that help ?07:36
pestilencemnssk: i'm not sure, but it's worth a shot ;)07:36
mnsskpestilence, cuz i need to boot back into linux and try07:36
dazvidasl07:36
mnsskpestilence, and then come back to report u07:36
pestilencemnssk: as i pointed out, you have a warning about that in the xorg log07:36
mnsskpestilence, i have seen that...and withwhatever i do i could not get it clean07:36
h17m4nanother question about opera07:36
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h17m4nis it available in a 64 bit deb?07:36
mnsskpestilence, however, see.. my winodws gave me the same infor 0:2:0 about the bus07:36
Madpilotsnausages: scroll down, open the file called "MD5SUMS"07:37
mnsskpestilence, sent the complete log07:37
snausagesMadpilot, and then?07:37
johndarkhorseh17m4n: try galeon for your web browsing07:37
jack-firefox <307:38
mnsskpestilence, sent the complete log at 188307:38
pestilencemnssk: ok07:38
Shorty`mm07:38
Shorty`breezy is sexy07:38
Shorty`just a tad buggy ;)07:38
Madpilotsnausages: that file has the md5sums you need to compare your download to07:39
bytefooa tad lol ;X07:39
snausagesMadpilot, yes. and how would i do that?07:39
Madpilotsnausages: however it's done in XP - I can't even remember how to do it in Ubuntu right now, sorry! google should help there07:40
pestilencemnssk: it truncates the log.  you have to paste just the last 2100 lines or so07:40
mnsskpestilence, okay i will do that07:40
johndarkhorsesnausages: go to www.freewarehome.com and search for md507:41
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mnsskpestilence, the last lines are there07:42
firebird_619Can anyone suggest a program for listening to the radio through a TV Tuner Card?07:42
Madpilotsnausages: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html  - has XP info07:42
mnsskpestilence, please chk them out07:42
pestilencemnssk: here's how you get your wireless going07:42
pestilencemnssk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662307:42
jack-firebird_619: xmms, or vlc07:42
Madpilotback later, all. need to get food.07:42
pestilencemnssk: i followed that for my ipw2200, works great (although mine also worked with the default kernel, but didn't support network scanning)07:42
mnsskpestilence, okay thats a great bit of help. but can I scan for networks and choose one of them ??07:43
firebird_619jack-, I tried the plugin for xmms to listen to radio and it says to find a .fmr file and edit it to scan for stations and then open the file. Do you know where I can find what exactly to put in the .fmr file to have it scan for the stations?07:43
Cashelhsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz? Anyone?07:43
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pefhi07:44
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pestilencemnssk: i can, using the instructions on that page.  it's not quite as slick in linux as it is in windows, but if you are willing to tinker, kismet is good.07:45
jack-firebird_619: no idea what a .fmr file looks like :)07:45
mnsskpestilence, i will try that out... no probs07:45
firebird_619jack-, ok, thanks07:45
h17m4nwhen I dl a tarball, I have to tar it, make, and make install?07:45
mushtaqhi i have configured a static ip address on my pc i have provided DNS IP Gateway but still i cannot access the network07:45
jack-check it out using a texteditor07:45
mnsskpestilence, atleast this much of a pointer is good enough... but  monitor thing is quite far from reality !!07:45
jack-i bet you'll see07:45
mushtaqwhile the other pc that has been configured at boot is working07:45
pestilencemnssk: did you try the vesa driver?07:45
mushtaqi dont know where to add the group name ?07:45
pestilencemnssk: it sounds like that will work right away, but won't give optimal speed or 3d support07:46
mushtaqor is there any other reason ? which can effect ?07:46
mnsskpestilence, i tried it. but i am not sure if i did it corectly07:46
mnsskpestilence, i dont care about any support now :)), just want to see my gnome running !!07:46
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chillywillybah, ym cron job won't run07:46
chillywillymy*07:46
mnsskpestilence, can u just help me out with writing the vesa xorg ??07:47
chillywillyI set it to run every minute and still don't see shit in syslog07:47
mushtaqi can ping to that pc even07:47
firebird_619jack-, there isn't any .fmr files on my system to check out.07:47
chillywillyerm, anything ;)07:47
pestilencemnssk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/188507:47
pestilencemnssk: also try http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/188607:47
pestilencemnssk: and http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/188707:48
mnsskpestilence, sure i will try them07:48
jack-use google to find any radio station, check if they offer .fmr files07:48
jack-thats what i'd do, i guess07:48
jack-(thats how i found out about the simple structure of .pls btw, too..d'oh)07:48
pepsiwhat does the "Save current setup" checkbox do in the logout window?07:48
mnsskpestilence, so..shall I try them and then boot back ?? :)07:48
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pestilencemnssk: sure.  make sure you copy over the xorg log if it fails07:49
mnsskpestilence,  i will do that..for each one of them07:49
johndarkhorsepepsi: it leaves all the programs open at the place you were at when you logged off07:49
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pestilencemnssk: you can just do an "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" instead of rebooting07:50
pestilencefrom a command line07:50
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pepsioh... thats pretty speffy07:51
pepsispiff even07:51
pepsigah07:51
mnsskpestilence, what would that give me ?? like...to get out of X..i can use ctrl+alt+bsp right ?07:51
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kevogodIs Evolution buggy on Exchange for anyone else besides me?07:51
pestilencemnssk: no, ctrl+alt+F107:52
alex_theosxuserhello07:52
pestilencemnssk: ctrl+alt+bsp will try to restart X07:52
mnsskpestilence, okay..and ctrl+alt+F1 and then what ?? just close gdm ?07:52
pepsievolution is always buggy with everything :)07:52
pestilencemnssk: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start07:52
pepsijust dont poke it too hard and it will cooperate07:52
mnsskpestilence, yeah yeah..but what would that do ?07:52
pestilencemnssk: restart gdm07:52
alex_theosxuserguys does anyone no why ubunu won't boot anymore with 2.6.13 kernel?07:53
kevogodWhat's a good alternative for Evolution that supports Exchange?07:53
mnsskpestilence, i understand that..but whats it gonna give us now ? you said "instead of rebooting" right ?? i need to come back to windows right ?07:53
jack-you will, just do it07:54
bur[n] erkevogod: none i've found... evolution is hte best... lately I've been using remote desktop straight to my exchang server though to use outlook :\07:54
bur[n] eraww07:54
pestilencemnssk: oh, i meant if the first xorg.conf doesn't work.  then you can try the 2nd and the 3rd without rebooting07:54
mnsskpestilence, yeah yeah..okays sure !!07:54
mnsskpestilence, that i had been doing already by killing xserver..:)07:55
mnsskpestilence, i am just doubting if i should try for wireless also now itself..but i think no! i will postpone it..07:55
pestilencemnssk: k07:55
chillywillycan anyone help? I have a file in /etc/cron.d and I have * * * * * root <command> but I don't see cron running it in /var/log/syslog...what the heck is going on?07:55
alex_theosxuserwould anyone like to answer my question???07:56
BubbleflyHow can I do a crc check on a file?07:56
jack-alex, if anyone would know07:56
jack-he prolly would answer :p07:56
tritiumalex_theosxuser, did you compile it yourself?07:56
alex_theosxuserI guess so :)07:56
alex_theosxuseryes07:56
alex_theosxuserand it went fine07:56
h17m4nI did a apt-get install d4x, but there's not icon for it under Applications... how do I add one?07:56
tritiumalex_theosxuser, and what's happening?  Did you add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst and run sudo update-grub ?07:57
alex_theosxuserI don't even see grub07:57
tritiumon boot?07:57
alex_theosxuserbut there is an entry in yaboot.conf07:57
tritiumoh, you're on a mac...07:57
alex_theosxuseryes07:58
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jack-:)07:58
jack-whats wrong with darwin? hehe07:58
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tritiumalex_theosxuser, not sure07:58
alex_theosxuserI choose 'linux' which is 2.6.13 and it then says welcome to linux but this is it07:58
johndarkhorsealex_theosxuser: i missed your question07:58
Riskbreaker9quick question, what exactly do you do wiith a *.run file? (this is probably going to end up being the stupidest question i've asked)07:59
alex_theosxuserjohndarkhorse, oh the ubuntu win't boot anymore07:59
tritiumalex_theosxuser, perhaps you didn't compile in a necessary option07:59
alex_theosxuserI followed the HOWTO from ubuntuforums07:59
johndarkhorsealex_theosxuser: is it a kernel from the repos?07:59
alex_theosxuserno07:59
alex_theosxuserfrom kernel.org07:59
alex_theosxuserI used --initrd option too07:59
tritiumalex_theosxuser, why not just use an ubuntu kernel?07:59
alex_theosxuserfon't know :)08:00
jack-are there ppc repos too? wow08:00
bob2if it won't boot, it's almost certainly because you misconfigured it08:00
johndarkhorsealex_theosxuser: i recommend you get into your yaboot and point it at a kernel that runs08:00
bob2why do you need 2.6.13?08:00
johndarkhorsealex_theosxuser: and then d/l hte kernel sources and patches from the repos08:00
alex_theosxuserbob2, to get working sound08:00
Riskbreaker9like, i was trying to download the Unreal Tournament 2004 demo, for shits and giggles. i doubleclick the run file and it just brings up a large text file.08:00
tritiumalex_theosxuser, is it a G5?08:00
Riskbreaker9what am i supposed to do?08:00
alex_theosxuserno, mac mini G408:00
AgrajagRiskbreaker9: open a terminal, chmod +x whatever.run08:01
johndarkhorsealex_theosxuser: sound should work on the mini08:01
bob2Riskbreaker9: it really had no instructions at all on place you got it from?08:01
alex_theosxuseryes, with the new 2.6.13 kernel08:01
alex_theosxuserjohndarkhorse08:01
bob2alex_theosxuser: use the ubuntu .config with it, and only change the one sound option you need08:01
Riskbreaker9nope, non08:01
AgrajagRiskbreaker9: what08:01
bob22.6.13 may or may not actualy work on hoary, tho08:01
bob2gven the whole udev thing08:02
AgrajagRiskbreaker9: run it from the terminal then, ./whatever.run08:02
Riskbreaker9no directions, in reponse to bob. sorry.08:02
Agrajagoh08:02
tritiumalex_theosxuser, did you try building newer alsa modules first?08:02
Riskbreaker9i'll try what you told me08:02
alex_theosxuserno08:02
alex_theosxusertritium08:02
alex_theosxusertritium. I didn't08:02
Riskbreaker9okay, i typed in the chmod command. should i have gotten a message?08:02
tritiumalex_theosxuser, you might consider that rather than a new kernel08:03
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bob2no08:03
dabaRhi08:03
Riskbreaker9what exactly does that do then08:03
Agrajagthat makes the files executable08:03
bob2it makes the file executable08:03
Agrajager, file08:03
alex_theosxusertritium, I have just installed alsa driver and library08:03
Riskbreaker9ohh08:04
bob2alex_theosxuser: dude08:04
Riskbreaker9i see. now should i try ./ ?08:04
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tritiumalex_theosxuser, what package names?08:04
penticlexgot it working Sun doesnt make the 64 bit w/ the browser plugin08:04
alex_theosxusertritium, but it throws an error when try to open alsamixer08:04
bob2installing libraries like that from source is a bad idea08:04
AgrajagRiskbreaker9: yeah08:04
alex_theosxuserwhy?08:04
Agrajagit should run08:04
Riskbreaker9ah08:04
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone know of a software package for Linux that is like Dragon Talk in Windows - you know, let's you talk, and it'll input text?08:04
Riskbreaker9thanks a lot, it's running08:04
Riskbreaker9that's weird, why do you have to use a command to make something executable?08:04
bob2er, because you're overwriting core stuff that came with ubuntu?08:04
bob2and may or may not be compatible08:04
alex_theosxuseralsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2, alsa-lib-1.0.9rc4.tar.bz208:05
penticlexyou dont08:05
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: you mean voice recognition.  try freshmeat.08:05
tritiumalex_theosxuser, no, that's not what I meant for you to do08:05
bob2alex_theosxuser: really not a good idea08:05
alex_theosxuserrealy?08:05
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bob2yes08:05
bob2also, it doesn't actally help you08:05
alex_theosxuseroh damn08:05
penticlex.008:06
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GeorgiepooAnyone know if it is possible to recover where you left off in a long apt-get install if the computer locked up during the download?08:06
bob2Georgiepoo: sure, apt does it automagically08:06
Georgiepoobob2, ewww.  apt isn't doign it for me.  Its starting all over from the beginning08:07
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alex_theosxusertritium, so what did you mean I should do?08:07
bob2Georgiepoo: are yo usure?08:07
tritiumalex_theosxuser, how is sound not working, first of all?08:07
Georgiepoobob2, Pretty sure.  Let me check again just in case08:07
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johndarkhorseGeorgiepoo: apt will start from the pkg where it was interupted08:08
robertbbhmmm.. cfdisk gives me a fatal error08:08
bob2Georgiepoo: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial08:08
alex_theosxusertritium, well I go to system->prefs->sound and try to play any sound and there is no sound :)08:08
Riskbreaker9so is this standard procedure whenever i get a run file?08:08
dazvidwhat programs does everyone use to play MP3's ?08:08
dazvidXMMS ? or something differnet?08:09
bob2Riskbreaker9: read the instructions, generally08:09
bob2dazvid: I like cplay08:09
Riskbreaker9ah08:09
tritiumalex_theosxuser, can you tell me if you see any files in /proc/asound?08:09
Georgiepoobob2, its empty except for the packages it has started redownloading from the beginning08:09
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bob2Riskbreaker9: if not, trying to run it like above08:09
mnsskpestilence, i am back !!08:09
dazvidRighto, will google it. Are there any others to check out?08:09
mnsskpestilence, none of them worked :(08:10
bob2cplay's in ubuntu, of course08:10
Riskbreaker9excellent. thanks a lot08:10
alex_theosxusertritium. yes I do, cards  devices  modules  oss  pcm  seq  timers  version08:10
tritiumalex_theosxuser, did you check the mixer to make sure things aren't simply muted?08:10
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alex_theosxusertritium, I did type alsamixer, but it said 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'08:11
tritiumI see...08:11
pestilencemnssk: bummer.08:11
bob2why do you think you need 2.6.13?08:11
alex_theosxusertritium, is there any othe mixers??08:11
GeorgiepooAh well.  I'll just wait a few more days until I get cable back.  Trying to download 60+ megs on dial-up is painful08:12
pestilencemnssk: put the logs on pastebin, maybe somebody can help08:12
johndarkhorsebob2: alex_theosxuser wants sound on his ubuntuized mac mini08:12
alex_theosxuserheh yeah :)08:12
bob2yes, I know08:12
bob2why do you thin kthat requires 2.6.13?08:13
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alex_theosxuserbob2, on the ubuntuforums they reckon I should install 2.6.13 and the newest alsa08:13
bob2the forums say lots of things08:13
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bob2many of which are highly misleading and/or completely wrong08:13
alex_theosxuserbob2, I know :)08:13
mnsskpestilence, :)) okay..!! let me tell u one interesting thing08:13
mnsskpestilence, even if i used the conf with bus id 0:2:1, the error still says cannot find a suitable whatever for 0:2:008:14
alex_theosxuserjohndarkhorse,  bob2 what are the other mixer I could unmute?08:14
pestilencemnssk: strange.08:14
mnsskpestilence, i was using the correct file all the time08:14
bob2alex_theosxuser: have you read dmesg yet to see if there's a driver loaded for it or not?08:14
pestilencemnssk: you could try breezy's xorg...there may be better support for your laptop in breezy08:15
bob2this mixer thing is getting way ahead of yourself08:15
mnsskpestilence, one question: did anyone install ubuntu on inspiron 6000 ?08:15
pestilencemnssk: just a quick search of the forum says yes.08:15
alex_theosxuserbob2, I am not sure how to do that :)08:15
mnsskmnssk: okay surely !! just gimme the link of the breezy thing08:15
bob2put your /var/log/dmesg up somewhere then08:15
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pestilencemnssk: can't really help you with breezy...should involve changing lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from hoary to breezy, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade...but not sure if there is an official installer for breezy08:17
pestilencemnssk: search the wiki08:17
bob2there is indeed08:18
robertbbIs there a gui utility for disk management under Ubuntu?08:18
pestilencerobertbb: yes, it is gqparted i believe08:18
jack-dpkg-deb: baue Paket avifile-xvid-plugin in ../avifile-xvid-plugin_0.7.38.20030710-1.2_i386.deb.08:19
jack-        dpkg-deb --build debian/avifile-divx-plugin ..08:19
robertbbNot installed by default though right?08:19
jack-but how can i install it now?08:19
robertbbcfdisk cracks the shits...08:19
pestilencerobertbb: no, don't think08:19
robertbbgives a fatal error08:19
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bob2pasting things in english is a lot easier08:19
Cashelhsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz? Anyone?08:19
mnsskokays..will try that out08:19
jack-E: Package avifile-xvid-plugin has no installation candidate08:19
mnsskpestilence, thanx alot08:19
jack-:(08:19
bob2Cashel: is that a question?08:19
mnsskpestilence, i willg et to sleep now and try that later08:19
pestilencemnssk: catch 22...you need an internet connection.08:19
bob2jack-: a) paste things in #flood, not here, b) in english08:20
pestilencemnssk: sure.  good luck08:20
mnsskpestilence, :)) so i will set up my wireless tomorrow08:20
jack-sorry bob208:20
mnsskpestilence, and then try apt-get and breezy...let me see if life gets any better08:20
mnsskpestilence, goodnight then08:20
Cashelbob2: Yeah does anyone have that file? Need it to get online in linux...08:21
jack-anyway, to sum it up..i build-deped it, went fine, but how can i install it now? apt-get install still says doesnt exist08:21
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jack-how can i let apt "know" about the pkgs i built?08:21
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bob2Cashel: what did google say?08:22
bob2jack-: apt-get install is never going to work, unless you configure apt to know about it08:22
bob2jack-: just use dpkg -i foo.deb08:22
Cashelbob2: only place that had it is no longer around...08:22
jack-ok08:22
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jack-how should i configure apt to know its own local db?08:22
bob2jack-: don't, just use dpkg08:23
jack-want things to work smoothly, including the gui pkg managers :/08:23
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gjoemmiello there08:23
bob2jack-: yes, install it with dpkg08:23
jack-ok08:23
gjoemmieI'm looking for a good movie/music downloading program...08:23
gjoemmieanyone has an idea?08:23
bytefooi wonder if ubuntu will support this.. http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html08:24
bob2violating copyright is off-topic here08:24
gjoemmiewhere is it on-topic?08:24
bob2no idea08:24
bob2bytefoo: no-name laptops tend to have broken acpi and such08:25
bob2if it does work, put a report on the wiki08:25
bytefooit's not available yet08:27
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penticlexwow my java works great now08:30
penticlexdoes any one know how to get the greeter to show Icons next to my name list08:31
tritiumpenticlex, did you choose the graphical greeter with a face browser?08:32
penticlexyup\08:32
tritiumpenticlex, that should do it.  Next time you restart gdm, it should work08:32
dabaRicons like what?08:32
dabaRpictures?08:33
penticlexand the only faces have ? in them08:33
chibifspenticlex - Wait for breezy08:33
penticlexya I cons that I can customise08:33
dabaRyou want real faces...no need, chibifs ...08:33
dabaRjust a sec.08:33
chibifsdabaR - Just reffering to the tool for gnome-user-stuff. Not sure if it's been ported back yet.08:34
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dabaRpenticlex: well, in this case...you would have to run gdmphotosetup as the user you are trying to set up a picture for. if you know the password, you can su userName in the terminal. Not tested that tho.08:36
kevogodWould someone like to help me setup a VPN connection on Ubuntu or at least direct me to a good walkthrough?08:37
gjoemmiecan anyone explain to me how I can download and install new programs to ubuntu?08:37
gjoemmieplz?08:37
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dabaRdont send messages with no content, like plz...08:38
bob2kevogod: you need to be more specific08:38
esc_apegjoemmie - use synaptic08:38
bob2about what sort of VPN you want08:38
jack-gjoemmie: "system" menu, system admin->synaptic08:38
bob2gjoemmie: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:38
penticlexcool it worked08:38
dabaRpenticlex: you doubted me?!heh08:39
gjoemmietnx Ill check it out!08:39
penticlexhehe08:39
dabaRYou know, I stumbled across that when I was using debian...08:39
Dr_Willisthe ubuntu homepage has some very well done docs and beginner guides08:40
kevogodFor a Microsoft setup08:40
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spear-northhi !08:41
bob2kevogod: PPTP?08:41
kevogodYes08:41
dryhumpDoes anyone know if it is possible to use a Belkin G wireless NIC with ubuntu and/or any distro of linux?08:41
kevogodI do believe so08:41
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bob2dryhump: not specific enough, you'd need an exact model number or to find out what chipset it uses08:42
penticlexit wont work if I sudo to another user08:42
bob2I'd not be surprised in he least if belkin used some moronic undocumented chipset, tho08:42
spear-northDo you know a webpage where utilities are compared with screenshots, resumes ... ie, where you can have an idea of most of the audio players available ???08:43
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dryhumpbob2: 811 54g08:43
dryhumpbob2: where would I look?08:43
dryhumpi mean 80208:43
bob2"802 54g" is the model number?08:44
penticlexbelkins use the same chipset s netgear08:44
penticlexs= as08:44
dryhumppenticlex, it was weird b/c ubuntu did not read it during install...08:44
dryhumpI heard the belkin used the boradcom chipset so therrefore lionux wouldnt work with the 802.11 g model08:44
dryhumpi wanted to make sure that was true08:45
bob2dryhump: what's the model number?08:45
dryhumpbob2, one sec08:45
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dryhumpf5d701008:45
dabaRpenticlex: did I say sudo? i meant su08:46
dryhump802.11 G08:46
dryhumpthose are the numbers that I have08:46
gjoemmieanyone knows how I can add new subtitles to movies?08:46
penticlexno you said su I just mad the typo08:46
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dryhumpI was hoping there was a way to get Ubuntu to recognize the NIC08:46
dabaRI know I said that...08:47
bob2dryhump: ndiswrapper might work08:47
bob2dryhump: is too late to exchange it for a better supported one., tho?08:47
dryhumpyes08:47
spear-northso no idea about that kind of webpage ?08:47
dryhump:(08:47
bob2spear-north: google gave you no results?08:47
dryhumpwtf is ndiswrapper08:47
bob2I doubt there's any sort of organised website for that08:47
bob2at least a useful one; it's too easy to just try them out for yourself, instead of letting someone else tell you08:48
spear-northmaybe it's an idea to build such a site, no ?08:48
dabaRthe newusersmultimedia talks about it a little...08:48
dabaRthey all work.08:48
dryhumpdabar, was that for me?08:48
bob2dryhump: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto08:49
dryhumpthanks bob208:49
bob2dryhump: but starts from "installing windows drivers"08:49
spear-northfor " mr newbie " or even anyone who wonders " what exists to record cds, watch movies or listen to music "08:49
dryhumpHm...08:49
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dabaRdryhump: for you...stfw:P08:50
Madpilotspear-north: you could do something like that in the Ubuntu wiki08:50
dryhumpstfw?08:50
Hentai^NTlaters all08:50
spear-northwith a few screenshots (because design can be important), a resume of the functions ... :)08:50
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dabaRdryhump: the younger brother of rtfm, search the fine web about ndiswrapper.08:51
anomalystfw.. I would think... stop the f'ng whining perhaps. heh08:51
Madpilotspear-north: have a look around the wiki, I think something like that would be useful08:52
dryhumpi didnt think i was whining08:52
anomalyah, that too perhaps.08:52
spear-northi' ll have a look around ! like you said, it can be useful !08:53
anomalydryhump I just saw the acronym perchance and got to thinking about it. :)08:53
dryhumpoh ok08:53
dryhump:P08:53
dazvidbob2, Does cplay have a GUI? or is console based?08:54
dazvidis it*08:54
Madpilotspear-north: there's going to be a bunch of screen-shot heavy docs released along with Breezy in a month or so, some of them could probably fit into a comparision like you're talking about08:54
dabaRit is nice, tried it?08:54
dabaRdazvid: ^08:55
dazvidI have downloaded and installed.. however its not playing my songs -_-08:55
dabaRyou started cplay from console?08:56
spear-northi think so ! At the final point, even if it's not the objective for now, what i understand, it would maybe be a good idea to settle screenshots in Synaptic and some more important descriptions of functionalities ... the future is probably there08:57
dazvidYeh08:57
dazvidjust cplay musicdir/08:57
bob2dazvid: it's a console application, yes08:57
dazvidah ok08:57
bob2searching the fine web when you have no idea what you're doing can be dangerous08:57
dabaRbob2: does it need codecs? the libmad/gstreamer?08:58
bob2you might find a broken howto or something08:58
bob2dabaR: it shells out to command-line players, like ogg123 and madplay08:58
dabaRbob2: a question like what is ndiswrapper does need google, tho.08:58
bob2sure08:58
bob2but "how do I use ndiswrapper on ubuntu?" will cause problems if googled08:58
bob2because you'll find the wiki page I pointed someone at08:58
bob2and it goes through all sorts of crap about rebuilding ndiswrapper modules08:59
bob2and force-installing them08:59
dabaRright, I was reading the @ask by apt/#debian referenced page...so I thought it was a good place to use stfw....09:00
bob2heh09:00
dazviddabaR, when in cplay, and playing a song it comes up with a message "Player not found". Does that imply the install failed?09:00
dazvidor rather, the codecs needed to play mp3's09:01
dabaRinstall mpg321 and mpg12309:01
bob2no codecs09:01
dazvidah thanks09:01
dabaRbob2: why not tell him what to do, it just works here...so I dont know...09:02
bob2install madplay and ogg12309:02
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dazvidYeh, Im used to just noobing it in windows.. download 1 program that does it all09:03
dazvidala winamp09:03
dabaRfunny that shark guy, and the others talking to him... and the laoye guy swearing...09:03
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bob2well09:04
dabaRxmms will do that for you...you just got an answer from an advanced user, about the command line program...09:04
bob2if you use aptitude, it will get it all for you09:04
dabaR!mp309:04
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:04
bob2since cplay Suggests all the bits you need09:05
dabaRIt installed only itself here, I guess I have the other things from before.09:05
dazvidThats ok, I want to learn.. its just really different and hard to get used to09:05
dabaRbob2: aptitude is now the proper cl program to use.09:05
bob2I think so09:05
bob2dazvid: as dabaR said, tho, cplay perhaps isn't what you want09:06
dabaRI mean...I said that as an interesting fact I learned...it says so on the debian site somewhere.09:06
bob2I like it because I sh to my desktop and run it inside screen, so I can control the music from my laptop09:06
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dazvidAh.. I see.09:06
dazvidWell I will keep it anyways :)09:07
spear-northhave a good day, see you !09:07
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dabaRwhats so hard about that screen thing...it screws up my irssi session if I open a new terminal tab while using it, and I have still no clue how to use it...any tips or places to look for them, bob2?09:08
bob2terminal tab?09:08
bob2in gnome-terminal or in screen?09:08
johndarkhorsedabaR: search google for "mac osx gems site:macdevcenter.com"09:08
bob2and how does it screw it up?09:08
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dabaRgnome-terminal,like, ctrl+shift+t, and it just visually gets out of place.09:09
johndarkhorsedabaR: sorry, its' unix gems site:macdevcenter.com"09:09
dabaRlike, loses sync, so I cant see the previous messages any more.09:09
johndarkhorsedabaR: switching 'windows' should bring them back09:09
dabaRgood, Ill read that once, thank you.09:10
robertbbWhy is there an rpm directory in /usr/src ?09:11
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Ichanzhi...09:11
Ichanzcan install rpm files on ubuntu ????09:12
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Ichanzcan I  install rpm files on ubuntu ????09:12
maximausyes09:12
bob2if you have to09:12
maximausalien -i packagename.rpm09:12
bob2it's better to avoid it if at all possible09:12
Ichanzi've tried but ... doesnt works ...09:13
bob2robertbb: the rpm package puts it there09:13
maximauscertainly don't install vital libraries and stuff like that.09:13
bob2robertbb: I guess for extracting srpms?09:13
Ichanzic09:13
bob2Ichanz: what did you try to install?09:13
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Ichanzi try to install codeweaver crossover but it comes only with rpm09:14
bob2that should work fine09:14
Ichanzhmmm09:15
Ichanzrpm -i <filenames>  <-- is that correct ????09:16
dabaRhe told you above...alien, not rpm.09:16
Ichanzok thx09:16
Ichanzbrb...09:17
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robert-in-aulist09:19
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robert-in-auhow well does ndiswrapper work?09:20
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robert-in-auhello?09:21
dazvidrobert-in-au,  where in au?09:21
dazvid:)09:21
robert-in-auperth09:21
Xanthus7beside dvd::rip is there any other dvd shrinker09:21
bob2depends on the card09:21
dazvidah, melb here09:21
bob2it's a horrible hack, tho09:21
bob2(canberra)09:21
robert-in-auwell i have a dwl-g520+09:21
dazvidAh, more aussies lurking09:21
bob2Xanthus7: there's lots, search using your prefered package management tool09:21
robert-in-auand the acx100 drivers dont support wpa09:22
Xanthus7never used that bob how would I do that please09:22
dabaRim going to sleep...I hope you all had a better week than me:)09:22
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bob2Xanthus7: you've never used a package management tool?09:23
robertbbHow do I get the matching kernel sources for the default Hoary kernel onto my system?09:23
robertbbThey don't seem to appear in Synaptic..09:23
Xanthus7I have used apt-get is that what you mean09:23
Xanthus7but package management tool I an sorry not sure what you mean09:24
bob2apt-cache search dvd rip09:24
johndarkhorseXanthus7: synaptic, aptitude, kynaptic, etc are pkg mangling tools09:24
bob2robertbb: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:24
Ichanzdazvid ah, melb here <-- hows chapel st ... i miss the crowd09:24
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robert-in-auwell go to "system"09:25
Xanthus7ok synaptic I understand09:25
robert-in-auok09:25
Xanthus7I had never had heard it called that sorry to sound dumb09:25
robert-in-audoe ubuntu put kernel sources in different places than other distros09:25
johndarkhorseXanthus7: pkg manglers or package managers?09:25
robert-in-au*does09:25
robertbbbob2: Is there a reason they don't appear in Synaptic?09:26
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antixrobertbb, apt-cache search kernel-source-2.09:26
antixrobertbb, and you get the name if it's there09:26
spiralhi09:26
robertbbWill mixing the use of apt-cache / apt-get screw with synaptic though?09:26
robertbbI was told they will, which is why I am not using apt-*09:27
antixrobertbb, no same thing09:27
robertbbantix: Awesome..09:27
dazvidIchanz, dunno, im actually in Frankston to be precise :P09:27
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robert-in-auis this the only ubuntu irc channel?09:28
Myrttino09:28
Ichanzdazvid Ichanz, dunno, im actually in Frankston to be precise :P <-- i c mate... i thought u r in toorak09:28
robert-in-auwht others are ther?09:28
theturtle#kubuntu09:28
robertbbHmm.. I still don't get the matching kernel sources to the running kernel.09:28
robert-in-auok09:28
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Myrtti#ubuntu-fi, #ubuntu-no, #ubuntu-sv, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-es, #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-you-make-it-up09:29
robert-in-auwow!09:29
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robertbbI know those places09:29
robertbbFrankston, Toorak..09:29
Myrttiyou can actually make the channels up09:30
robertbbI'm from Sandy09:30
robertbbBut I am in Canada right now ;-)09:30
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bob2robertbb: perhaps you haven't rebooted lately09:30
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bob2so you're running an old kernel09:30
bob2tho it should still have the headers available09:31
robertbbHmm.. how would a reboot help?09:31
robertbbrobertbb@thinkpad:/usr/src$ uname -a09:31
robertbbLinux thinkpad 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux09:31
Xanthus7So bob do you have a dvd ripper you like09:31
theturtledvdbackup09:32
theturtleacidrip09:32
robertbbTrying to get the matching sources onto the machine so I can compile some ATI drivers09:32
Myrttia propos offtopic. I have to say this because I found this great product. I whole heartedly recommend BodyShop nail colours. I do office cleaning after school and that nail polish is the only one that has lasted thru my evening job.09:32
theturtlelxdvdrip09:32
theturtlecpdvd09:32
theturtledvddecrypter09:32
Xanthus7yea but to use dvddecrypter you have to use wine09:32
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bob2Xanthus7: thoggen's nice09:33
bob2if you like theora09:33
bytefoomy dvd audio always gets out of sync in ubuntu :/09:34
robert-in-auhow do i find the version of a wifi driver i am using?09:34
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theturtlemodinfo09:37
theturtle:/09:38
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!lilo:*! Hi all. If you could help with the testing of a nickserv patch for SET FILTERED ON on the testnet (irc.freenode.net port 9001) it would help immensely.... please stop by the testnet and message me. Thanks.09:42
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brownie17madpilot: when i try to watch lfash animations, my sound doesn't work, but it works with everything else09:45
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brownie17can anyone help me? when watching flash animations, my sound doesn't work, but it works fine for everything else09:46
johndarkhorsebrownie17: please dont repeat, if anyone knows your answer, they weill speak up09:46
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bob2brownie17: "pkill esd"09:46
dduckoThere is a tutorial for sound in the Wiki09:46
dducko!sound09:47
ubotuhmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/09:47
brownie17bob2: i put that in the terminal, what did it do09:47
johndarkhorsebrownie17: killed your e sound daemon09:47
bob2brownie17: now try reloading the anmiation09:48
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brownie17what is an e sound deamon?09:48
brownie17bob2: ok09:48
brownie17nope, still didn't work09:48
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dduckothere is a fix for it.. tyring to find it for you now...09:51
dduckoSound has not been configured correctly09:51
brownie17dducko, i havent done anything to configure sound09:51
brownie17hey, how do i find out if i have and ISA card?09:51
jack-question..is it possible to have xscreensaver act on other events besides idle time?09:52
jack-i'd like to control it with the mousepointer..like this corner = blank now, and that corner = never blank09:52
jack-is that doable?09:52
Madpilotjack-: didn't win98 (or 95??) used to do that? (vague memories here...)09:53
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jack-yeah, mac os too, etc09:53
gjoemmiello there09:53
brownie17dducko: so how do i configure sound?09:53
gjoemmieanyone knows a better movieplaying program than totem media player?09:53
jack-vlc09:53
OculusAquilaevlc09:53
jack-www.videolan.org/vlc/download, iirc09:54
Madpilotgjoemmie: what's not working in totem? (have you installed the various codecs?)09:54
Madpilotjack-: vlc is in Ubuntu repos, no need for seperate download09:54
jack-madpilot: dont say you got totem able to play xvid/divx09:54
Agrajagjack-: totem can play those just fine09:55
jack-i tried, but didnt find the approprite codecs :<09:55
Agrajaginstall totem-xine and w32codecs09:55
jack-thx!09:55
Madpilotjack-: think so, just a sec. w32codecs solves most problems...09:55
gjoemmieanyone wanna talk to me bout those things for a minute plz?09:56
jack-gjoemmie: apt-get vlc, problem solved09:56
gjoemmiek tnx09:56
johndarkhorsegjoemmie: what things? just d/l vlc and enjoy your movies09:56
Madpilot!tell gjoemmie about restricted09:56
Madpilotgjoemmie: the URL ubotu just sent you will get Totem (or whatever) playing all your stuff09:57
gjoemmieI dont understand sorry09:57
gjoemmiejust started using ubuntu still learning09:57
Madpilotgjoemmie: go here, it's got the info you need: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:58
gjoemmiejack-: apt-get vlc doesnt work in my root terminal...09:59
jack-madpilot: you sure its in ubuntu already? :p09:59
youngcoder!vfs09:59
ubotuNot a clue, youngcoder09:59
jack-i got it from debian/stable, too09:59
youngcoderhas anyone compiled the 2.6.13 kernel?10:00
Madpilotgjoemmie & jack-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - vlc is in Universe repo10:00
jack-Agrajag: Couldn't find package w32codecs10:00
bob2youngcoder: lots of people have10:00
Agrajagjack-: you need the hoary-extras repository, read the above link10:00
Madpilotjack-: that's in hoary-extras (because it's quasi-legal). see the bottom of the URL above10:00
jack-ok, thx :)10:00
gjoemmiemadpilot can u plz talk to me in private for a minute?10:00
Madpilotgjoemmie: better to ask here, I'm hardly an expert!10:01
youngcoderbob2, well i have a problem with kernel panic while booting it.. it involves VFS.. any clue what causes that?10:01
gjoemmieits just I dont know ANYTHING about it10:01
gjoemmieI learned how to use gtkgnutella10:01
bob2youngcoder: that's caused by you not configuring it correctly10:01
Madpilotgjoemmie: anything about what? please be specific!10:01
gjoemmieso I can download movies10:01
dduckoCould someone tell me what is on www.nvidia.com that might crash firefox?10:01
bob2youngcoder: why do you want 2.6.13?10:01
gjoemmiebut now  I wanna play them10:01
bob2dducko: flash?10:02
gjoemmiebut the quality in Totem is very bad10:02
youngcoderbob2, it is my first kernel compile10:02
johndarkhorsegjoemmie: dont use the root-terminal, use sudo10:02
Madpilotdducko: lots of flash?10:02
bob2youngcoder: why are you compiling it?10:02
youngcoderbob2, just wanted to do it and see if it works10:02
bob2youngcoder: ok...10:02
dduckoI dont know.. ive been haveing random problems since i installed the nvidia-glx drivers10:02
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bob2youngcoder: that panic is because you forgot to compile support for your ide/scsi controller and root filesystem into the kernel10:02
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youngcoderbob2, wow thanks i will go fix it10:03
Madpilotgjoemmie: Totem plays everything I've got, even the few high-quality vids I've got. DVDs too... please follow that RestrictedFormats wiki page, it should get you going.10:04
gjoemmiebut where do i start?10:06
gjoemmieI never learned through an internet page10:06
gjoemmieI feel like getting lost all the time10:06
dduckogjoemmie also after you add the restricted Resources dont forget to update your sources10:06
Madpilotgjoemmie: start here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:06
dduckoJust read the paget.. veru informative10:06
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brownie17ARGHGHGH!!! i need help10:07
Madpilotgjoemmie: after you finish that first page, go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:07
Madpilotgjoemmie: at some point, you'll want to read this, too: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:07
brownie17i followed what it said in a guide to type lsof /dev/dsp to check what programs were using the soundcard, but nothing happend, it just did the thing to let me type a new command10:07
Madpilot(but it's not as important)10:07
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bob2brownie17: and?10:08
bob2brownie17: why do you think that is incorrect?10:08
brownie17and wasn't it supposed to show me what programs are using the soundcard>?10:08
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brownie17hey, if i have ESD killed, then should Rythmbox work?10:09
dduckoI couldnt find that in the Wiki which i know it is.. so I gave him the forum with it.. it isnt as precise10:09
bob2brownie17: yes, and no program is using it10:09
gjoemmieI dont know anything about ubuntu, where do I start?10:09
bob2start using it10:09
Madpilotdducko: you mean the Flash sound info? I thought it had been added to the wiki Flash page?10:09
gjoemmieI dont know anything else but windows...10:10
brownie17bob2: well rythmbox just says could not open resource for writing10:10
Madpilotgjoemmie: neither did I until four months ago!10:10
gjoemmieso how did u learn it?10:10
bob2brownie17: perhaps you have rhythmbox configured to use esd then...10:10
bob2gjoemmie: you use it and play10:10
bob2and listen to people here10:10
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Madpilotgjoemmie: hanging out here, reading the wiki, and lots of books from the library - and lots and lots of messing around...10:10
bob2and read the mailing list10:10
bob2and the wiki10:10
brownie17bob2: i dont know, maybe, i didn't do it delberately though, must have been an auto setting10:10
Madpilotgjoemmie: seriously, work thru those three URLs I gave you above, they'll get you started with those videos, and introduce you to a bit of the system too10:11
bob2brownie17: ok10:11
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gjoemmieok ill try10:11
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gjoemmiehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto10:12
gjoemmiehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats10:12
gjoemmiewhich was the third one?10:12
brownie17restart the session means log off then on again?10:13
bob2yes10:13
brownie17ok10:13
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johndarkhorsemadpilot is the best!10:13
Madpilotgjoemmie: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo - but it's not as important as the other two, and contains a lot of Linux-gibberish... (which can be ignored, mostly)10:13
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GNULinuxerSeveas: you there?10:14
Madpilotjohndarkhorse: I'm home, I'm out of beer, so I hang out here and do good... :)10:14
johndarkhorseheh10:14
gjoemmiewell, thx a million times!10:14
gjoemmielets hope I understand them all (I dont even speak good english...)10:14
GNULinuxerSeveas: I am trying to create an initrd image but mkinitrd isn't creating any. And there are no errors too10:14
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GNULinuxersudo mkinitrd -o <image_name> kernel_version10:15
bob2are you on breezy?10:15
emileis there a wifi chooser for ubuntu?10:15
bob2and why are you making an initrd?10:15
GNULinuxerbob2: i am on hoary10:15
GNULinuxerbob2: 2.6.1310:15
bob2emile: lots.  netapplet isn't too crap.10:15
bob2GNULinuxer: but why are you making an initrd at all?10:15
GNULinuxerbob2: I thought I'd need one as I am not making the fs modules built in10:16
benplauthow do i start a second Xserver in tty8?10:16
bob2why would you not build them in?10:16
bob2benplaut: startx -- :110:16
bob2benplaut: (from a terminal)10:16
benplautno, a second one10:16
benplautthat complains that one is already running10:16
bob2that should start another10:17
benplautooohh10:17
brownie17dducko, did what you said in that guide, still didn't work10:17
benplautwith the -- :110:17
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GNULinuxerbob2: just like that ... but that's not a solution to the problem with mkinitrd ... it should create an image any way right?10:17
bob2yes...10:17
brownie17bob2: followed this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567, but still sound does not work in firefox10:17
bob2GNULinuxer: indeeed, but initrds are black magic, to be avoided whenever possible10:17
GNULinuxerbob2: heh10:18
bob2forums in confused advice shocker!10:18
bob2I wish people would just stop using the forums like that10:18
bob2if you have an article to write, write it and put it somewhere useful, like on the wiki10:18
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brownie17stop using them like what?10:19
brownie17is there something wrong with that guide10:19
GNULinuxerbob2: do you mean just making second extended fs support, ext3 support and reiserfs support built in work ?10:19
brownie17i'll keep trying, i think i might yet be able to fix it10:19
bob2brownie17: I wish people would use the wiki or an actual website for articles10:19
bob2hiding them on the forums is annoying10:19
bob2GNULinuxer: yes10:19
GNULinuxerbob2: hmm10:20
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benplautthat's incredible!10:22
johndarkhorsethe wiki is the only place i write articles10:22
benplautbeagle worked without any cajoling!10:22
GNULinuxerbob2: are there any debian builds of 2.6.13 available?10:22
johndarkhorsebenplaut: that is indeed10:22
bob2do not know10:23
bob2I'm not sure that will actually work on hoary, tho10:23
benplautGNULinuxer, if you're looking for the latest and greatest, you might as well use breezy10:24
bob2breezy does not have 2.6.1310:24
benplautoh10:24
benplautnot even in universE?10:24
GNULinuxerbob2: hmm ... i tried building on using kpkg ... but it balied out with an error wrt generating some stupid docs10:25
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GNULinuxers/on/one10:25
GNULinuxerbenplaut: i am afraid, Breezy might break something10:25
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benplaut2.6.13 might break something  ;)10:25
brownie17bob2: i made sound work!!! :)10:25
benplautbut, still, it's easy to boot into a different kernel10:26
brownie17why does esd work for firefox for some people, but not others10:26
GNULinuxerbenplaut: yes10:26
Madpilotbrownie17: so what's the trick?10:26
brownie17!tell brownie17 about kernels10:26
brownie17!tell brownie17 about kernel10:26
lsuactiafnerubotu tell lsuactiafner about kernel10:27
johndarkhorsebrownie17: just /msg ubotu <factoid> and he'll tell you whatever you ask for10:27
brownie17madpilot: there was a another part of the guide that some people had to do, that was more advanced10:27
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brownie17madpilot: and i had to do it10:27
Madpilotbrownie17: ah. I'm just going to wait a month for breezy, it's supposed to have saner sound configs...10:27
brownie17johndarkhorse: thanx10:27
lsuactiafnerubotu tell lsuactiafner about ubotu10:27
brownie17madpilot: yeah, are there any like screenshots i can see?10:28
jack-btw, do all ubuntu binary repos exist for all supported platforms?10:28
jack-like, is there a hoary-extras for ppc, too?10:28
bob2lsuactiafner: you can talk to the bot in /msg10:28
bob2jack-: that's entirely up to whoever does hoary-extras10:28
bob2jack-: it is not part of ubuntu10:28
johndarkhorsejack-: yes there are10:28
lsuactiafnerhe doesnt want to cyber..10:28
bob2but it's unlikely to be complete, hoary-extras has all sorts of non-free binary-only junk10:28
Madpilotbrownie17: there have been Breezy screenshots - don't have URLs handy - ask googles10:28
jack-yeah10:28
Madpilot*google, even...10:28
jack-anyway, good to know :)10:29
jack-i'll give ubuntu a go on my g3 mac10:29
jack-but all the "official" repos are complete even for ppc?10:29
johndarkhorsejack it will work well10:29
jack-thats awesome :)10:29
Madpilotbrownie17: lots of pics: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=342&slide=27&title=ubuntu+linux+5.10+colony+1+breezy+badger+screenshots10:29
bob2jack-: complete as much as possible10:30
jack-i'm really afraid of building stuff myself with this slow mac :p10:30
bob2jack-: e.g. openoffice 1 is fucked on amd6410:30
bob2jack-: and lilo only works on i386, etc10:30
jack-ok10:30
benplaut!tell brownie17 about breezy10:30
jack-yeah i know, thats np10:30
benplautthere's a link in there, brownie1710:30
nubbehowto fool sites like cnn.com ito thinking I got WMP?10:30
johndarkhorsejack-: no need to build10:31
johndarkhorsejack your G3 is fully supported by ubuntu10:31
johndarkhorsenubbe: mmsclient10:31
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jtan325does anyone here use breezy10:32
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jack-johndarkhorse: great :)10:32
benplautjtan325, i do10:34
wickedpuppyi do too10:34
wickedpuppyoh benplaut is your System --> log out working ?10:34
jack-does w32codecs work for anyone in here? (trying to play xvid .avi files in totem still fails)10:34
benplautyup10:34
wickedpuppyfunny10:34
benplautno to jack-10:34
wickedpuppymine doesn't10:34
!lilo:*! Hi all. Just a reminder: please help us test the latest nickserv changes.... testnet is irc.freenode.net, port 9001 .... if you can't get there, message me here for help; if you get there, stop by #freenode10:34
benplautyes to wickedpuppy10:34
bob2jack-: works for lots of people10:34
bob2I wouldn't bother with totem, tho10:35
jtan325benplaut, what's the easiest/safest way to upgrade cairo to 1.010:35
wickedpuppyjack-, i just played .avi naruto10:35
jtan325i mean10:35
benplautdunno, never tried10:35
jack-maybe requires some newer gfx hw..10:35
wickedpuppyin totem10:35
johndarkhorsejack-: w32codecs dont work on ppc10:35
jack-its an old p2 box with a rage210:35
jtan325benplaut, does breezy give you problems?10:35
jack-not ppc johndarkhorse :)10:35
jack-p2, 450mhz10:35
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bob2jack-: no, graphics hardware has nothing to do with it10:35
benplautjtan325, a few, here and there... nothing serious10:35
Madpilotjack-: totem plays all my .avi files as far as I know10:35
jtan325benplaut, what level of problems?10:35
jtan325I'm alright with unix and stuff10:36
dduckoI seem to be haveing some issuesfollowintg the Unofficial guide.. for installing Flash..10:36
jack-i'll check out "naruto"10:36
Madpilot!flash10:36
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:36
dduckoit says.. sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla10:36
jtan325but i have no idea whether i'd be able to fix up my distro myself10:36
benplautthe OO.org dictionary, can't change boot text font, some weirdness with Qt themes...10:36
Madpilotdducko: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats instead of the ubuntuguide10:36
benplautnothing that really effects working with it10:36
bob2jtan325: messing with libcairo is not a good idea10:36
benplautjust personal prefences10:36
wickedpuppyjtan325, the only problem i got is that i can't shut down by System --> Log out ... if i go there .. all my menu hangs10:36
johndarkhorsedducko: if you're referring to the ubuntuguide, dont follow it too closely, it can lead you into trouble in some cases10:36
benplautditto to bob210:36
dduckoThanks for the warning10:37
jack-hmm doesnt exist10:37
jtan325bob2, i work on a dev team for a program that needs cairo 1.0.010:37
jack-wickedpuppy, what did you mean?10:37
Madpilot!ubuntuguide10:37
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.10:37
Madpilotdducko: see above ^^^10:37
jtan325that's why i'm trying to get it working...10:37
dduckoahh cool..10:37
wickedpuppyjack-, you shut down by going to system --> log out and choose shut down right ?10:37
mumbleshow do i change a network settings?10:37
dduckothought some was out of date.. wasnt too sure10:37
bob2jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it10:37
jack-i rarely do that at all10:37
jack-but yes10:37
wickedpuppywell ... seems if i do that i can't use any meny anymore10:37
wickedpuppymenu10:38
jtan325ugh10:38
jtan325already installed...10:38
wickedpuppyi just have to kill x and shutdown by sudo shutdown -h now10:38
bob2jtan325: where did you elaborate further on the problem?10:38
jtan325bob2, what do you mean? really, the problem traces down to when i try to compile the program i'm working on10:39
jack-<fn~wickedpuppy> jack-, i just played .avi naruto10:39
jack-?? ;)10:39
wickedpuppyhaaaa10:39
jtan325bob2: it says10:39
mumblesany ideas ?10:39
nubbejohndarkhorse, Thanks for the tip, I'll check it10:39
wickedpuppyavi is fine :P10:39
jtan325/usr/lib/libcairo.so: undefined reference to `FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden`10:39
jack-well, my totem used to say "cant play, bad format"10:40
jack-now i installed w32codes, and it doesnt complain anymore10:40
jack-but hangs :P10:40
bob2jtan325: er10:40
dduckoI have all of the restricted repos yet it still says that is not found flashplugin-nonfree, yes apt-get update has been ran10:40
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bob2jtan325: that's because you didn't tell the configure script to use your version of cairo10:40
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jack-is vlc really the only sane videoplayer? d'oh10:40
bob2mplayer's saner10:40
bob2even if the authors are not10:41
jack-for xvid/divx too?10:41
jack-need those badly10:41
bob2of course10:41
jack-ok, thx10:41
jtan325bob2, would you know how to do that?10:41
Madpilot!info flashplugin-nonfree10:41
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB10:42
jack-damn which mplayer do i want :) -custom or -586 ?10:42
jack-bob210:42
bob2jtan325: 18:37:53           bob2 | jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it10:42
Madpilotdducko: see above ^^^ , it's in Multiverse10:42
bob2jack-: 586, I suppose10:42
jack-ok10:42
jtan325bob2: arg, ok, i guess i'll have to pray that synaptic fixes these broken packages10:42
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jtan325bob2: actually, that doesn't look like a good idea10:43
bob2jtan325: this does not have anything to do with synaptic10:43
bob2or ubuntu packages10:43
bob2or whatever10:43
jtan325well right now i've got 6 broken packages...10:44
jtan325among them libc6, libfontconfig, libxrender-dev10:44
bob2this is entirely unrelated to cairo10:44
jtan325well10:44
bob2unless you did something extraordinarily silly like modifying your cairo in /usr/10:44
jtan325no10:45
jtan325didn't do that10:45
jtan325but10:45
bob2or installed a broken homebrew cairo package10:45
jtan325when i tried to "dpkg -i" cairo 1.0 (official release)10:45
jtan325it complained about dependencies10:45
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jtan325so i followed those, downloaded the .deb's for those10:45
jtan325mostly stable, some testing, none experimental10:45
bob2wtf10:45
bob2you're boned then10:46
jtan325installed them, and then finally libcairo worked10:46
bob2reinstall10:46
bob2and don't do such silly things in future10:46
jtan325well10:46
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jtan325how else would you install libcairo10:46
bob2dude10:46
bob2I've told you how, twice10:47
bob218:42:21           bob2 | jtan325: 18:37:53           bob2 | jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it10:47
jack-bob2, is there some graphical frontend app for mplayer, too?10:47
jtan325no, i've read that10:47
jtan325so you mean install libcairo by compiling from source or something?10:47
bob2yes10:47
bob2if it has a different SONAME, you could compile the debian source package of 1.010:48
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dduckoevem after verifying the multiverse is listed I still cannot access flashplugin-nonfree10:49
jtan325bob2: i'll see what i can do10:49
dduckoeither in apt of synaptic10:49
jtan325thanks for your help though10:49
ompauldducko, apt-get update first10:49
dduckodid that.. several times actually10:49
bob2installing .debs like you did is a terrible idea10:50
bob2even if you know exactly how apt and dpkg work, unbreaking it now would take quite a wile10:50
johndarkhorsejack-: gmplayer10:50
jtan325yea bob2 it was a true n00b mistake10:50
jack-thx :)10:51
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GNAMI want 2.6.13 in breezy10:51
ompauldducko, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl and let us progress from there10:51
jack-johndarkhorse: hmm10:51
bob2I want a pony10:51
jack-not in any of my repos10:51
GNAMpony is offtopic10:51
ompaulbob2, you can't have one10:51
jack-johndarkhorse: where to get it?10:51
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johndarkhorsejack you (to my knowledge) have to recompile mplayer --with-gui  or something like that10:52
jack-ahh10:52
johndarkhorsejack-: and if you recompile mplayer, make sure you compile the kitchen sink into it10:52
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jack-ok10:53
bob2GNAM: perhaps yo ucould elaborate on why you want 2.6.13?10:53
dduckoompaul done.. under dducko10:53
johndarkhorsejack-: you'll need to compile aac support and all that  into it (at least i wanted aac support)10:54
GNAMbecause it's latest10:54
jack-yeah, me too10:54
jack-lets see if i'll manage10:54
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dbzdeathhey does anyone know why i can't use gcc? i just removed the gcc package and installed the gcc-3.4 package and it doesn't work10:55
jdubdbzdeath: install build-essential10:55
johndarkhorsedbzdeath: you can have more than one version of gcc10:55
dduckouninstalling gcc is bad.. did it have lots to take away with it?10:55
ompauldducko, first up you duplicate the last line :) that can go10:55
GNAMi have 4/5 version of gcc10:56
dbzdeathdducko: nope10:56
dduckoyeah did that trying to add multiverse again10:56
jack-gcc5 isnt out yet :p10:56
ompauldducko, remove the cdrom with a # always better to get from the net10:56
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jack-guess you mean 4.0.5 or something10:56
dbzdeathjohndarkhorse: i get file not found when i try to run the command gcc ...10:56
GNAMversion -> versions10:56
johndarkhorsedbzdeath: jdub suggested a possible fix10:56
jdubdbzdeath: you need the gcc package to provide the gcc symlink, otherwise you can use 'gcc-4.0' or 'gcc-3.3' etc.10:57
bob2GNAM: then go compile it yourself10:57
dbzdeathhmmm it now wants to install gcc-3.3 again10:57
bob2it sounds like a waste of time10:57
bob2dbzdeath: because you removed gcc10:57
bob2dbzdeath: all you have now is gcc-3.410:57
dbzdeathbob2: yeah... i don't see the problem with that?10:58
Madpilotanyone here use CVS, ideally with Screem? I'm fiddling with it, and it's being... difficult10:58
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dduckoompaul done and done.. (and thanks for the help)10:58
bob2dbzdeath: indeed10:58
Carpe_LibertatemI thought you meant CVS Pharmacy.10:58
bob2dbzdeath: so, cal gcc-3.4 if that's what you want10:58
dbzdeathcal?10:58
bob2call10:58
bob2this sounds like a bad idea tho10:59
bob2not least because of the ABI changes10:59
jdubdbzdeath: the 'gcc' package installs the gcc symlink10:59
jdubbob2: doesn't matter for gcc :-)10:59
pepsibob2, vmware works :)10:59
dduckoompaul I just notice all of the rest of them have a deb-src line.. should multiver have that too?10:59
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: no, the Concurrent Versions System!10:59
bob2jdub: it does if you want to use any C++ libraries11:00
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ompauldducko, I am editing your existing one11:00
jdubbob2: 'gcc' != 'g++' :-)11:00
dduckook thank you11:00
dbzdeath/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.5/libstdc++.a when searching for -lstdc++ anyone know what that means?11:00
bob2hah11:00
bob2indeed11:00
bob2I win!11:00
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jdubdbzdeath: that means you're using out of step versions of gcc :-)11:01
dbzdeathjdub: out of step?11:01
bob2dbzdeath: why do you want g++ 3.4 so badly?11:01
dbzdeathbob2: don't really ... just trying to get this program to compile11:01
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jdubdbzdeath: you have a library built with on gcc ABI, and you're trying to build against it using a different gcc11:01
bob2dbzdeath: just using the default gcc is going to be a lot simpler then11:02
jdubdbzdeath: install build-essential :-)11:02
LamerXhey all, i've read through all the forums and i've set up a few different nVidia cards before, but for some reason on my laptop, i've got no 3d acceleration. I even get the nvidia logo when X starts, does anybody know what might be the problem?11:02
dbzdeathjdub: i already did that... and no go11:02
dbzdeathsame error11:02
bob2no, you removed build essential11:02
bob2by removing "gcc"11:02
jdubdbzdeath: don't build with gcc 3.4 then - use gcc11:02
dbzdeathbob2: no i installed it *after* i did that11:02
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lsuactiafnerLamerX : glx aint running11:02
lsuactiafnerits software not hardware glx11:03
bob2dbzdeath: install build-essential, and use gcc as the compiler.  what error do you get?11:03
pepsihow do i know which of those modules to load? dri, glcore, glx, etc11:03
pepsiwhat does each do?11:03
LamerXlsuactiafner, how do i make sure glx is running?11:03
lsuactiafnerglxinfo | grep direct11:03
dbzdeathbob2: see above ... thats the error with build-essential ... and i'm assuming its using gcc11:03
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Madpilotgood night, all, it's 0200 here. later...11:03
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LamerXlsuactiafner: direct rendering: Yes11:04
lsuactiafnerLamerX : if it aint direct then i got no idea how to fix it, i dont use the ubuntu packages, i use the drivers directly from nvidia.com11:04
stoneheadehm.. stupid question: why don't I get core files, even when ulimit -c is unlimited?11:04
bob2dbzdeath: what are you compiling? how?11:04
lsuactiafnerhmmm11:04
bob2pepsi: http://people.freedesktop.org/~ajax/dri-explanation.txt11:04
LamerXyeah i'm mega-confused11:04
lsuactiafnerLamerX : in /etc/X11/xorg.conf see if you are using nvidia not just nv as a display driver11:04
LamerXyeah it's nvidia11:05
dbzdeathbob2: p7zip on amd64 ubuntu ... i just typed make all as the instructions said11:05
HappyFoolstonehead: that doesn't sound right11:05
bob2dbzdeath: after running what?11:05
LamerXlsuactiafner: i even get the nvidia logo when X starts11:05
lsuactiafnerLamerX : then no idea11:05
LamerXok thanks for the help11:06
lsuactiafnermaybe the card aint good?11:06
lsuactiafnertry nvidia-settings11:06
LamerXnah the card worked under gentoo11:06
LamerXill check the nvidia settings11:06
HappyFoolstonehead: 'ulimit -c unlimited' does the right thing here11:06
dbzdeathbob2: According to your OS, copy makefile.linux, makefile.freebsd, makefile.cygwin, ...   over makefile.machine11:06
dbzdeathas it said11:06
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stoneheadstn@rafe:~ $ ulimit -c11:06
stoneheadunlimited11:06
dbzdeathso i copied the amd64 makefile11:06
ompauldducko, have a look at that11:07
stoneheadSegmentation fault11:07
stoneheadYou've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit11:07
stoneheadhttp://bugs.xmms.org and fill out a bug report.11:07
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stonehead(same shell, of course, no core.)11:07
ompauldducko, and make a backup of what you have before you overwrite sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old11:08
LamerXanybody might know why i'm getting no 3d acceleration after installing nvidia drivers?11:08
LamerXis there anything i do in my xorg.conf besides change "nv" to "nvidia" ?11:08
HappyFoolstonehead: hmm. i think it's probably an xmms thing. maybe they try to do something clever with segfaults11:08
HappyFoolLamerX: have you read the nvidia wiki page?11:08
ompaul!tell LamerX about nvidia11:08
LamerXi haven't seen the wiki page, where might i find that?11:09
stoneheadhappyfool: I have an mp3 that repeatedly causes segfaults. does xmms have a channel?11:09
ompaulHappyFool, LamerX  has the url now :)11:09
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HappyFoolLamerX: ompaul has wielded the cluebat11:09
HappyFoolstonehead: i think so11:09
dduckoompaul Thanks.. trying it now11:09
LamerXoh yeah thanks11:09
ompauldducko, apt-get update first !11:09
ompaul:)11:09
stoneheadhappyfool: thanks, will try there.11:09
dduckoompaul... yep.. and worked perfectly thanks.11:10
LamerXok, i've done all that, i get the nvidia logo but still no accel, any ideas?11:10
LamerXis the GeForce2Go maybe no supported?11:10
dduckodarn.. still didnt fix my issue....11:11
dbzdeathbob2: any ideas??11:11
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dduckois there a way to install Nvidia's drivers that they distribute?11:12
HappyFoolLamerX: i can put my xorg.conf on the pastebin, if you want11:12
FatDarreldducko, sure just make sure you have your kernel sources and use their shell script11:12
dazviddducko, there is a forum topic on installing the latest nvidia drivers11:12
HappyFoolLamerX: maybe you can compare the   Section "Module" part, but I don't know if it'll help11:12
Cashelre hi... anyone know how I can download ubuntu packages w/ out using the package manager?? 14.4kbps thanks to linuxant :(11:12
dazvidsearch on ubuntu forums :)11:12
LamerXHappyFool: ok that would be great, i would really appreciate it!11:12
samu2so, i was wondering if you can install ttc truetype font collections for ubuntu somehow, or maybe you can extract the ttf files from them?11:12
dduckoahh Ok thanks..  Kernel sources...... ummm.....11:12
dducko*goes to look for this stuff*11:12
LamerXHappyFool, what channel is the pastebin?11:13
HappyFoolLamerX: it's a website... standby11:13
thenukeLamerX: pastebin.org11:13
LamerXoh ok11:13
dduckosad thing is I have to use links to go to the Nvidia site.. otherwise i crash firefox11:13
HappyFoolhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/189011:13
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LamerXHappyFool, thanks for the paste!11:14
LamerXlet's see how it compares11:14
dbzdeathanyone know why my system might be so unresponsive? it is pretty bad... scrolling down a web page with just text on it can make my cpu usage go to 100% or just even typing in here it will sometimes spike or opening up another tab etc. on a athlon 64 3000+11:15
pepsitop11:15
HappyFooldbzdeath: is dma enabled on your hard drives?11:16
dbzdeathHappyFool: hmmm i'm not sure11:16
youngcoderHappyFool, !! heya11:16
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dbzdeathin regards to that i should have default11:16
benplaut'night :)11:16
HappyFooldbzdeath: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' (or /dev/<whatever>)11:16
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HappyFoolyoungcoder: hi ;)11:16
Cashelwhat pepsi said... top .. make sure the mem total is right...11:16
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dbzdeathHappyFool: hmm one hard drive reports it as off the other(the sata disk.. the one that runs the OS) reports... well nothing it just spits out /dev/sda:11:18
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HappyFooldbzdeath: i've rarely used sata, but i think controller support can be a problem11:18
dbzdeathHappyFool: lets say its off... should i enable it? if so how? maybe that will help?11:19
HappyFooldbzdeath: well, you can try, but by default it should be on11:19
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HappyFooldbzdeath: try 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda'11:19
dbzdeathHappyFool: it isn't for my other hard drive...11:20
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HappyFooldbzdeath: so it's on for on sata drive, not for the other?11:20
HappyFooldbzdeath: are the drives connected to the same sata controller?11:20
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dbzdeathHappyFool: well the sata one doesn't report... but the other well that says its off ... ummm i'm not sure if they're on the same controller11:21
HappyFooldbzdeath: is the 'other one' also sata?11:21
dbzdeathnope ide11:21
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dbzdeathHDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <--- i get that when trying to enable dma on the sata drive11:22
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HappyFooldbzdeath: all i can suggest is googling for your motherboard model (or sata controller model) and linux or ubuntu. I would guess there's no kernel support for dma for that sata controller.11:22
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HappyFoolCashel: you want to download packages without using apt ?11:23
dbzdeathHappyFool: hmmm... well since one is ide and the other sata... they have to be on different controllers... i'm pretty sure11:23
HappyFoolCashel: you can try something called apt-zip, it may be what you want11:23
HappyFooldbzdeath: presumably11:23
mumbleswork time11:24
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pawdrohello, on system startup I have a message 'Can't find sxt3 filesystem on hda2' (that's linux), but my native fs is reiserfs, and I have hda2 in fstab writtes as reiserfs11:24
pawdrowhats wrong?11:24
Cashelsoooo.... anyone know how I can manualy download packages from ubuntu?11:25
mumbles-workapt-get11:25
mumbles-work?11:25
CashelHappyFool, correct11:25
dbzdeathhmmm HappyFool could my problem be to do with this... i get a whole bunch of this spam when i check dmesg... smb_errno: class ERRDOS, code 21 from command 0x8011:25
mumbles-workanyways im off to work11:25
dbzdeathHappyFool: because my system WAS running fine11:25
HappyFooldbzdeath: all i can suggest is google11:25
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scanwinderwhat sidebars like google desktop are for linux?11:26
nightswimwhat is a sidebar11:27
Casheldbzdeath, restart all samba related stuff?11:27
!lilo:*! Services will be restarted in a moment to remove the erroneous SET UNFILTERED ON artifacts....11:28
dbzdeathCashel: Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. do you know what that is?11:28
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scanwindernightswim: bars that like stay on the side with buttons and email integration and new etc etc11:28
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scanwindernightswim: desktop.google.com11:28
Casheldbzdeath, do I know what what is? (read: no)11:29
dadohi all, i need help with cedega, i cannot run games in 1280x800 (16:10 Widescreen)!11:29
nightswimdoesnt gdesklets or something do stuff like that11:29
dbzdeathhmmm11:29
HappyFoolscanwinder: you can add applets to the panel (right-click on a panel, choose 'add to panel'). Panels are the bars at top and bottom of the screen.11:29
Casheldbzdeath, whats on top of top?11:30
dbzdeathCashel: hmmm well it seems to be running alright now ... i did restart samba and i did stop the copying via samba that i was doing11:31
dbzdeathso it has to be samba related11:31
HappyFooldbzdeath: well, if dma is disabled, all disk i/o goes through the cpu11:31
dbzdeathHappyFool: AHHHH so that would be why11:32
dbzdeaththats a lot of pressure then on the cpu11:32
johndarkhorsenightswim: gdesklets, adesklets, and superkaramba all have wonderful eyecandy11:32
dbzdeathwait a minute.... its copying not to my sata disk but to my other disk11:32
HappyFoolwell, it will at the very least cause context switches etc11:33
HappyFoolyou said dma wasn't enabled there either, iirc11:33
HappyFoolnot having dma on your main hdd (including swap partition) would probably cause a noticeable performance lag11:34
dbzdeathHappyFool: yes thats my point... if i enable it on the non sata disk it should fix it?11:34
HappyFooldbzdeath: it will help transfers to that disk, presumably11:34
dbzdeathHappyFool: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted i get that when i try hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda <--- thats the drive that repots that dma is disabled11:34
johndarkhorsedbzdeath: enabling dma on all your disks is a good idea, imho11:35
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dbzdeathjohndarkhorse: yeah i know... having a little trouble with that here though :(11:35
HappyFooldbzdeath: all i can guess is lack of kernel support for your ide/sata chipset11:35
dbzdeathhmmmm11:36
dbzdeathits a via chip11:36
dadoguys, how can i run games on 1280x800 in cedega? please help me :)11:36
HappyFoolCashel: i'd seriously consider buying a new modem; i have a intel 536ep based winmodem and it works perfectly well11:36
dbzdeathisn't via cips supported well on linux?11:36
HappyFooldado: try #cedega11:36
HappyFooldbzdeath: ask google11:37
dbzdeathvia k8t800 chipset11:37
Cashelis samba the only method available for rw on ntfs drives??11:37
HappyFoolCashel: samba is for network filesystems, not for accessing ntfs drives11:37
dbzdeathCashel: captive ntfs is your friend11:37
HappyFoolCashel: ubuntu has read-only support for ntfs11:37
HappyFooldoesn't captive require a patched kernel?11:38
dbzdeathHappyFool: hmm afaik no...?11:38
dbzdeathi've only used it on knoppix11:38
Cashelnever had a sata drive, but isnt there some sort of scsi kernel modules for it?11:38
HappyFooldbzdeath: ah, they may have patched there. someone here was trying to install it on ubuntu and couldn't11:38
HappyFooldbzdeath: i may be wrong11:38
dbzdeathyeah so may i11:38
Cashelhmmm did a locate: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_promise.ko11:39
HappyFoolCashel: there are probably more; isn't there a sata.ko too?11:40
CashelI would definetly be search for a sata howto were I you...11:40
Cashel+ing11:40
dbzdeathyup my ide controller is P_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.1 <--as shown in dmesg11:40
dbzdeathseems supported11:40
CashelHappyFool, yeah, that was for example....11:41
CashelI have a conextant modem unfortunetly... bastards charge for drivers.. 15 USD .... for that I could buy a new modem! heh11:42
Cashel.. if I had 15 bucks atm, which I dont unfortunetly..11:42
HappyFooldbzdeath: interesting. VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.0  (from by dmesg)11:42
dbzdeathHappyFool: by = my?11:42
HappyFoolyeah11:42
dbzdeathhmmm what motherboard?11:42
HappyFoolerr11:43
Cashelbbl11:43
HappyFoolnot sure of the model anymore. gigabyte, with amd 2500XP11:45
dbzdeathah11:46
dbzdeathi have a asus k8v se deluxe11:47
dbzdeathHappyFool: hdparm -i /dev/sda spits out some stuff11:47
dbzdeathhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29443.html interesting looks like what i have11:50
HappyFooldbzdeath: well, the one guy there has some concrete suggestions (floogy)11:52
dbzdeathdoes anyone know the difference between dma and ultradma?11:53
brownie17hey, i am trying to use "doom legacy" a game i found in synapitic11:54
brownie17and i cannot11:54
brownie17it gives me an error about doom.wad11:55
brownie17says it doesnt exist11:55
brownie17anyone else use this game?11:55
HappyFoolbrownie17: i think you need the original doom .WAD file to play it11:55
brownie17happyfool: yeh i downloaded it from the internet11:55
brownie17still doesnt work11:56
HappyFoolbrownie17: sorry, never actually used it. read the docs (probably in /usr/share/doc/doom-legacy/ or similar)11:56
brownie17ok11:56
jack-could someone do me a huge favor, do "cat /usr/share/applications/screensaver-properties.desktop" and paste me the results in pm? :<11:56
jack-pleaseplease..11:57
HappyFooljack-: i'll try pastebinning it, though i'm not sure what's going to happen with utf8 stuff11:57
jack-ok, thx :)11:57
Gnonthgoljack-: cat: /usr/share/applications/screensaver-properties.desktop: No such file or directory11:58
Gnonthgollol11:58
HappyFooljack-: hmm, here it is: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/189111:58
HappyFooljack-: looks a bit dodge though; evidently the utf-8 got mangled11:59
GnonthgolHappyFool: thanks11:59
jack-np, many thanks11:59
dbzdeathhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA <-- in the troubleshooting section can anyone tell me how to read that? i can't make out what i'm meant to put for what(i know its kinda a stupid question :/)12:00
dbzdeathnm12:00
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osfameronhmm, sound juicer is reading at 1.4x speed12:05
osfameronon WinXP it ran ca 10x speed12:05
osfameronany suggestions ?12:05
brownie17should this copy a file from my desktop to the games directory? "sudo cp /home/fraser/Desktop/doom1.wad /usr/games/doom1.wad12:06
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dbzdeathYAY! i got dma going on my ide drive(no more lag)... alas the sata drive doesn't have it running12:08
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HappyFoolbrownie17: looks ok12:09
HappyFoolosfameron: try changing the rip settings to be less strict12:09
dbzdeathdammit ... has anyone here got dma working on a sata drive?12:09
furicI need a stand alone version of gnome-color-picker, where would i obtain that?12:10
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HappyFoolosfameron: though i can't see how to do than in sound juicer12:10
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HappyFoolosfameron: also, try turning on dma on the drive (not sure if that affects ripping, but it might)12:11
Carpe_LibertatemWas Freenode down for a moment?12:11
HappyFoolCarpe_Libertatem: not in the last 90 minutes12:11
Carpe_LibertatemIf I right-click an ISO file, and select "Write to Disc" - will it burn the iso as an iso, or all the information on the ISO to disc?12:12
HappyFoolCarpe_Libertatem: it should burn the contents of the iso; i.e., you won't see a CD with a single file 'foo.iso' on it, but whatever's inside the iso12:13
dbzdeathHappyFool: on cd/dvd drives?? yeah dma can make a difference12:13
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Alex_BOHELLO!i would like to install mondo, but i can't find it on synaptic.of course repository problems.anybody can help me?12:14
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osfameronHappyFool, dbzdeath: how do I turn on dma?  (And what is it? :-)12:16
dbzdeathumm12:16
dbzdeathdirect memory access12:16
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's a good download manager?12:16
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Alex_BOHELLO!i would like to install mondo, but i can't find it on synaptic.of course repository problems.anybody can help me?12:16
dbzdeathas HappyFool said it allows direct writing to and from a device instead of going through the cpu12:16
bimberiAlex_BO: it's in the universe repository (for i386 anyway)12:16
GnonthgolAlex_BO: where can I find mondo?12:17
dbzdeathosfameron: try hdparm -d1 /dev/device12:17
dbzdeathreplace device with your drive12:17
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Alex_BOGnonthgol, it's my question :-)12:17
osfamerondbzdeath: ta, I'll try that :-)12:17
emilewhere can is resize desktop icons?12:17
sedatcwhat does executable mean in ubuntu12:17
HappyFool!tell osfameron about dma12:17
HappyFool!tell Alex_BO about repos12:17
Alex_BObimberi, how can i insert it?would you mind write me the line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list?12:18
sedatcwhich extension an exe has and can I change it12:18
HappyFoolsedatc: files are 'marked' as executable12:18
dbzdeath!tell dbzdeath about dma12:18
bimberiAlex_BO: HappyFool has just made ubuto send you a link to some instructions12:18
osfamerondbzdeath, HappyFool: thanks :-)12:18
tearis there an FTP client precompiled in ubuntu? if not, any recomendations?12:18
dbzdeathosfameron: your welcome12:18
bimberi*ubotu12:19
mjrtear, you can open ftp:// locations with nautilus12:19
mjrtear, gftp is popular too12:19
bimberiuboto: sorry12:19
dbzdeathanyone here know if sata can use dma?12:19
HappyFoolsedatc: you can right-click files in nautilus, choose Properties and look at the 'Permissions' tab to change read/write/execute status12:19
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sedatcHappyFool: the eclipse problem still continues. I just realized that when I try to execute jar directly by not clicking exe file everything is fine.But when I try to use exe it looks for jre in current directory12:20
Alex_BOmaybe i am stupid12:20
Seveas!lart bimberi12:21
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Seveas:)12:21
HappyFoolheh12:21
bimberiouch! :)12:21
sedatcHappyFool, so is there a way I can change the content of it12:21
Alex_BOi have activated ALL the repositories as the inscructions said (i checked with /etc/apt/repositories.list) but it can't find anything12:21
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's a good download manager?12:21
bimberiAlex_BO: /etc/apt/sources.list12:21
HappyFoolSeveas: i used your pastebin to upload some utf-8 file, and this is what happened: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1891  (not a complaint, just out of interest ;)12:22
HappyFoolAlex_BO: are you using synaptic?12:22
tearthanks mjr12:22
SeveasHappyFool, awesome :)12:22
Seveas(the pastebin apparently isn't utf-8 compatible )12:23
Alex_BObimberi, HappyFool: yes, i'm sorry: i made a mistake. the file is /etc/apt/sources.list12:23
Gnonthgol!info mondo12:23
ubotumondo: (powerful disaster recovery suite), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 2.04-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 461 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB12:23
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emilei'm still having trouble switching between wireless lans. what would be the right approach?12:23
HappyFoolSeveas: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>  (first line in pastebin .html)12:23
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fblade1987how can i compile a program that has a make file?12:24
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HappyFoolAlex_BO: are you using synaptic or apt-get/aptitude?12:24
emilethere are two wireless network, one with key (i connect to it during install) and one public without key which i want to switch to now12:24
HappyFoolfblade1987: 'make' is the usual way12:24
emilei installed netapplet to help me out, but no luck12:24
Alex_BOHappyFool, either with synaptic or with apt-get i can't find it12:24
emileany help?12:24
Casheland now I'm connected at 56k!!! And what did I change you ask? Absolutely nothing... very strange...12:25
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Gnonthgolemile: try iwconfig12:25
HappyFoolAlex_BO: when you type 'sudo apt-get update', does it seems to check for the extra repos?12:25
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Alex_BOHappyFool, can i write my sources.list in pv?12:26
HappyFoolsedatc: let me see how i run eclipse -- i think it's here12:26
tearwhat codecs would be needed to play xvid?12:26
dbzdeathdammit what the hell my ide drive is performing faster than my sata drive... fucking dma12:26
HappyFoolAlex_BO: use the pastebin, then other ppl can see too: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl12:26
tearor rather, where to I get them12:26
HappyFool!tell tear about restricted12:26
Seveasfblade1987, make12:26
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Alex_BOhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/189212:27
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sedatcHappyFool, I can run eclipse from command line but what I curious about is executables.12:29
emileGnonthgol: how can i set wireless channel, it gives error 'operation not supported12:29
sedatcHappyFool, can I change it . It doesnt look like scripts or something12:29
HappyFoolsedatc: what do you want to do? start eclipse from the desktop?12:30
bimberiAlex_BO: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" or "Reload" in Synaptic since updating your repositories?12:30
Gnonthgolemile: just try #iwconfig wlan0 essid "Default"12:30
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HappyFoolAlex_BO: there's an error on line 2012:31
sedatcI want to learn about exes how it produced.12:31
sedatcHappyFool,12:31
HappyFoolAlex_BO: it should be multiverse, not 'm ultiverse'12:31
HappyFoolsedatc: umm.12:31
ompaulsedatc, exes are not a natural item in linux they are a strangeness from the land of MS12:31
HappyFoolsedatc: you mean what are executables in linux?12:31
bimberiAlex_BO: line 6 has something similar12:31
sedatcHappyFool, yes exactly12:32
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HappyFoolsedatc: any file which has the 'executable' bit set is, in principle, executable12:32
Alex_BOHappyFool, bimberi: i promise you that my file is correct12:33
bimberiAlex_BO: it's probably just a pasting issue12:33
Cashel!tell Cashel about restricted12:33
HappyFoolsedatc: there are at least two types of executable, binaries and scripts. binaries have a specified format (ELF, i think), scripts start with #!<interpreter> and are usually (always?) text files12:33
sedatcHappyFool, hmm. Again I will ask the same question can I change the content of it. Because this idiot looks for jre in wrong place12:34
sedatcHappyFool, this is way I cant run eclipse directly12:34
HappyFoolAlex_BO: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 is a sample, 'correct' sources.list12:34
HappyFoolsedatc: add a launcher to the panel or desktop to run eclipse12:34
HappyFoolsedatc: right-click on the panel, choose 'Add to panel' then 'Custom application launcher', and give the command you use to start eclipse on the command line12:35
sedatcHappyFool: I already did it thank you12:35
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HappyFoolsedatc: i don't really understand what you want to do, sorry12:35
RabihHi!12:35
sedatcHappyFool: my problem was about exes12:35
ompaulsedatc, if you type file infront of a file name you will see what kind of file it is12:36
RabihI'm trying to install my wlan-card.12:36
Cashelapt and synaptic use the same package database right?12:36
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Alex_BOHappyFool, is that your sources.list?12:36
bimberiCashel: yes12:36
naliothwell folks, it's been fun12:36
Cashelthanks12:36
naliothi'm leaving my paying job now and going home and going to sleep12:36
naliothbe back in 12 hours from the office12:37
naliothy'all be good12:37
ompaulsedatc, for instance if you type file /etc/apt/sources.list you get one answer and if you type 'file /usr/bin/finger' you get an answer now beyond that there is a lot more12:37
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HappyFoolAlex_BO: no, though mine is similar (i think)12:38
RabihQuestion 1: The Readme says $make -C /path/to/source SUBDIRS=$PWD modules (Where /path/to/source is the path to the source directory for the (configured and built) target kernel.) So, what is the /path/to/source in Ubuntu?12:38
Alex_BOHappyFool, can you paste me yours?12:38
HappyFoolAlex_BO: stand-by12:38
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bimberilol12:39
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Alex_BOHappyFool, what?12:39
HappyFoolAlex_BO: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/189312:40
sedatcompaul, okey I got it. Thank you something new for me12:40
ompaulsedatc, for a file which has things that can be executed it can be executed in one of two ways - one is by passing it to a shell 'sh file_to_be_executed' and the other is to use the shell you are in to invoke the command so in a terminal in your home directory you type 'nano' it starts an editor, but linux is in no way like that other thing that claims to be an operating system which defines the type of file by its extention name12:40
HappyFoolAlex_BO: i think the deb-src lines might be incomplete12:40
HappyFoolAlex_BO: but you can probably just comment those out if you don't want to do any compiling12:40
ompaulsedatc, you need to read some stuff online I think using uncle google and the terms 'file permissions linux faq' you may get the kind of info you want12:41
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CashelRabih, I believe that would be /usr/include/linux  ... may just want /usr/include tho12:41
lsuactiafner /usr/src/linux12:41
Casheloh yeah12:42
Cashelheh12:42
lsuactiafnershould learn to make your own kernsl Cashel12:42
sedatcompaul, thank you very much12:42
ompaulsedatc, and you can also just for fun learn about 'export shell variables'12:42
Cashellsuactiafner, I have on prev distros .... kinda happy w/ ubuntu the way it is, for now at least..12:42
Carpe_LibertatemIs there a way I can get a deb package for OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta 2?12:43
RabihThank you!12:43
Cashellsuactiafner, as usual, I'll wait until I have a problem that requires it, heheh12:43
Carpe_Libertatemerr..12:43
sedatcompaul, I know some part of it 'shell variable' I used before them but I never see or use executables before12:43
Alex_BOHappyFool, can you search mondo with $ apt-cache search mondo ?12:43
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ompaulsedatc, np have fun in this more obvious world as you loose the shackels of the bad mindset of other operating systems with their almost random restrictions and funny syntax12:43
Alex_BOHappyFool, with your sources.list i can find only mondo-doc12:43
HappyFoolAlex_BO: mondo - powerful disaster recovery suite12:44
Cashelunimportant question but is there any reason not to use alien packages if they work? (if they dont, thats ubviously a good reason, hehe)12:44
sedatcompaul, I mean ELF that use shared library12:44
HappyFoolCashel: one reason might be not getting updates from ubuntu repos automatically12:44
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bimberiAlex_BO: are you using amd64?12:44
HappyFoolCashel: but if the software isn't in the repos, you'd need to manually do that anyway12:44
Alex_BObimberi, yes12:44
ompaulsedatc, so look at shared library on google if you have a specific question then ask it - shared libs are exactly what they say on the tin - shared and can be called by several execuatables12:45
Alex_BObimberi, don't say me that there isn't a version for amd6412:45
bimberiAlex_BO: alright I won't then :(12:45
sedatcwhen I start ubuntu I get a warning that says utf8 for fat32 is not recommended iocharset. I wonder what I should use instead12:45
sedatcompaul, thanks I will google it12:46
bimberiAlex_BO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/mondo12:46
RabihI'm going to try it out now, bye.12:46
sedatcompaul, I already solve my problem12:46
CashelI see.. so no performance reasons? I ask because I installed several libraries that way...  (other than build, which would be the case anyways)12:46
ompaulsedatc, and you learn some too, not a bad day all around12:46
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Alex_BOnooooooo!only for i386!!!!12:46
Alex_BOso, can't i use it?12:47
sedatcompaul, yes thank a lot12:47
HappyFoolCashel: i can't see how performance would come into it12:47
ompaulsedatc, np12:47
sedatcompaul, can you answer my other question about iocharset for fat3212:47
ompaulsedatc, no, because I have no fat32 or ntfs so I do not learn how to do anything with it12:48
Cashelgood to know thanks..12:48
sedatcompaul, okey thank you anyway12:48
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ompaulsedatc, np have a great day12:49
brownie17how do i change permissions on a directory through the terminal?12:49
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dbzdeathbrownie17: chmod12:49
Carpe_Libertatemchmod ### <dir>12:49
bimberiAlex_BO: Have a look here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457512:49
ompaulbrownie17, what do you want to change them to? and as a matter of interest what directory do you want to change?12:50
brownie17i unzipped a folder to my desktop, and now i want to delete the folder12:50
sedatcHappyFool, have you got any suggestion fro my question about iocharset for fat3212:51
brownie17chmod ### <dir>12:51
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ompaulbrownie17, so that is to delete the file12:51
ompaulbrownie17, did you unzip it as root?12:51
Cashelrm -r /home/theuser/Desktop/foldername12:51
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brownie17no... but i still dont hav persmissons to delete it12:51
ompaulbrownie17, ls -l foldername please12:52
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brownie17cashel: tried that, it said i didnt have permission to do it12:52
Carpe_Libertatemsudo rm -are <dir> maybe ?12:52
Carpe_Libertatemerr12:52
brownie17the foldername is Linux12:52
Carpe_Libertatemrm -are12:52
Carpe_LibertatemOh, I see the problem...12:52
ompaulbrownie17, ls -l Linux  please12:52
HappyFoolsedatc: i'm not sure. have you had any problems yet?12:53
brownie17fraser@brownie:~$ ls -l /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux12:53
brownie17total 4012:53
brownie17-r--r--r--  1 root root 34844 2001-04-03 18:27 audio1_3_tar.gz12:53
brownie17-r--r--r--  1 root root  2844 2001-04-03 18:27 ReleaseNotes.txt12:53
brownie17fraser@brownie:~$ sudo rm -are /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux12:54
brownie17Password:12:54
brownie17rm: invalid option -- a12:54
brownie17Try `rm --help' for more information.12:54
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SeveasNEVER paste in here12:54
Cashelbrownie17, rm -r is fine ... password is the same as the first user you created...12:54
GranMaestroHi everybody, is matthew around here?12:55
Cashelmatthew_w ?12:55
dbzdeathahh gotta love gentoo users... so helpful12:55
Seveasmatthew who?12:55
ompaulbrownie17, 'sudo rm -rf  /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux'12:55
GranMaestromatthew east12:55
Cashelwas helping him with fstab about ummmm 2 hours ago, 3 maybe...12:55
Seveas!seen mdke12:55
Cashelo12:56
GranMaestrotrying to start ubuntu from an external fwdrive12:56
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GranMaestrocan anybody help?12:56
RabihHo.12:56
SeveasGranMaestro, mdke is not around right now12:56
Cashelwb Rabih12:56
RabihWLAN-installation part 2 ;)12:56
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GranMaestroSeveas, any idea where to get hold of him?12:57
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RabihSo, the readme says as mentioned: $make -C /path/to/source SUBDIRS=$PWD modules (Where /path/to/source is the path to the source directory for the (configured and built) target kernel.)12:57
Cashelyay! a package manager that actualy works! what a change12:57
SeveasGranMaestro, the mailing lists or #ubuntu-doc when he's there12:58
RabihSo I tried: make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=$PWD modules12:58
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone know what the debian package is for Deerpark?12:58
RabihIt says: make: *** /usr/src/linux: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.  Schluss.12:58
GranMaestroSeveas, sorry to bother.. which mailing list? :)12:58
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Rabih(File or directory not find. End.)12:58
Seveasubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com or ubuntu-doc@lists12:59
GranMaestroSeveas, OK thanks12:59
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Carpe_LibertatemIch habe ein Meerschweinchen!12:59
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HappyFoolsea-pig ?01:00
RabihI also tried the same with /usr/include/linux and /usr/include. Then it says: make: Gehe in Verzeichnis /usr/include/linux01:00
Rabihmake: *** Keine Regel, um "modules" zu erstellen.  Schluss.01:00
Rabihmake: Verlasse Verzeichnis "/usr/include/linux"01:00
Rabih(No rule to create "modules". End.)01:00
Carpe_LibertatemGuinea Pig.01:00
SeveasRabih, what are you compiling?01:00
RabihCan anybody help me?01:00
HappyFoolRabih: try /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/01:00
RabihA driver for a WLAN-card01:00
Seveaswhich?01:00
RabihRT250001:00
Seveasthey have drivers in ubuntu01:01
RabihBut it doesn't work?01:01
Seveasit does for lots of people01:01
RabihThe card is not shown in the network properties01:01
Rabihonly in the device manager01:01
Seveashttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo01:01
Seveasread that01:01
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meeephi. im trying to get sound with games, like tuxraces and enemyterritory, it works fine in players(esound) but not in games? what can be do01:03
RabihThat's nice, but all those wget and apt-get doesn't work without internet connection01:03
SeveasRabih, true...01:03
Seveas(for the wget)01:03
Seveasthe apt-get things are on the cd01:03
RabihAh01:03
RabihOkay01:03
Seveasand the one wget thing can be downloaded manuall01:03
Seveasy01:03
jack-question: if i want to run windows on my ubuntu pc..is wine ok or should i get vmware instead?01:04
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Seveasvmware01:04
RabihWell, thank you very much.01:04
RabihI'll try it out now.01:04
RabihSo I've got to leave.01:04
Seveasgood luck!01:04
RabihThanks!01:04
jack-does wine suck?01:05
RabihBye!01:05
jack-i'll give it a try01:05
HappyFoolis it true one can get windows xp going with Xen ?01:05
mjrjack-, wine doesn't run windows, it reimplements it. Thus, it is also incomplete, and may or may not run the software you want.01:05
jack-ahh ok01:05
Cashelwine = Wine Is Not an Emulator  ... gotta love circular definitions...01:06
jack-so vmware is like the only way to "emulate" a full windows inside linux, right?01:06
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mjrjack-, no, not the only way, there are other similiar solutions, eg. the free qemu01:07
mjrvmware is probably the fastest though01:07
jack-nice, ok01:07
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brownie17am i still banned01:07
brownie17no01:07
brownie17yay!01:07
brownie17ok01:07
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brownie17i have a problem, when i got to type "apt-get update" i get the following error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189401:08
HappyFoolaccording to this http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8540 some guys have gotten windows xp sp2 running on some weird hardware01:08
HappyFoolerr01:08
jinrohxsane 0.9.6, ubuntu 5.0.4, Problem - xsane will not recogonize my scanner.  It only see my tv card.  If I run xsane as root the scanner is recognize; but, xsane recommends that you don't run as root.  My user is a member of the scanner group. Does anyone have any ideas how to correct this problem?01:08
robert-in-auGNU -> GNU's Not Unix01:08
HappyFoolon Xen on some weird hardware, that is01:09
robert-in-auare you trying to run apt-get and synaptic at the same time?01:09
HappyFoolbrownie17: try 'sudo apt-get <whatever>'01:09
brownie17nope01:09
robert-in-autry sudo01:09
brownie17haha, darn sudo01:10
brownie17i always make stupid mistakes like that01:10
brownie17:)01:10
dbzdeathyeah i don't use sudo... i only find it a pain01:10
brownie17thanks01:10
dbzdeathi know what i'm doing not to fuck something up royally :P01:11
brownie17why don't people always use the root terminal?01:11
robert-in-aui cant get ndiswrapper to work - what is the driver file you need ?01:11
dbzdeathbrownie17: ^^^ to do with that01:11
dbzdeathsudo has some good uses01:11
brownie17i get ya01:11
dbzdeathsudo = good for noobs01:11
HappyFool!ndiswrapper01:11
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:11
dbzdeathi much prefer su :)01:11
robert-in-auand if you don't want to keep sudo'ing then you can "sudo su"01:12
HappyFoolyou can use 'sudo -s' to get a root shell01:12
ompauldbzdeath, sudo is in every security book it was developed in or about 1980 and you know better :) I love it :)01:12
HappyFooli believe 'sudo su' is not recommended, though i'm not sure why01:12
dbzdeathrobert-in-au: ya or you can set a root password(my preferred method)01:12
robert-in-aui am following that guide01:12
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LaserLinewhat's the best Emule client for Ubuntu ?01:13
ompaul!sudo01:13
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:13
dbzdeathompaul: heh it has its disadvantages... like a user often won't put a complex password for their normal user account ... and if they are a sudoer ...01:13
robert-in-auyea but i dont bother - you can log in as a root user without that01:13
thenukedbzdeath: if user does not have good passwords.. why on earth he would then have strong password for root01:14
dbzdeaththenuke: i'm talking in a environment with no root password(sudo only)01:14
brownie17how can i check if totem is set up to use xine01:15
HappyFoolirresponsible users should not have admin rights01:15
ompauldbzdeath, they should have good passwords from one end of their access to the other01:15
dbzdeathHappyFool: true .. but that isn't always the case01:15
robert-in-audbzdeath: if you kill gdm then you can log in and then sudo startx"01:15
dbzdeathompaul: ya they *SHOULD* but they don't01:15
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robert-in-aubrb - dinner01:16
dbzdeathrobert-in-au: ... what? ... that will just run gnome as root01:16
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ompaulone concurs but that is no reason to abandon the additional logging of sudo over su - yes you can give me the 'bash and trace' arguements but at the end of the day sudo beats su hands down01:16
brownie17how can i check if totem is set up to use xine01:16
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kemikusing sudo really isnt that hard ;)01:17
ompaulbrownie17, apt-get install totem-xine01:17
kemikand there's not many tasks in every-day use that relly require root privileges01:17
highvoltagehi. which audio rippers work well under ubuntu besides sound-juicer (specifically for mp3)01:17
dbzdeathkemik: tis a pain when you gotta do a lot of work as root01:17
Naliothhighvoltage: grip01:17
jack-highvoltage: cdparanoia, cdda2wav01:17
highvoltageok, i'll try those.01:17
brownie17ompaul: it says its going to remove gstreamer, i dont want it to do that do i?01:18
kemikdbzdeath:  there is "sudo -i" if you really dont have time to prefix with sudo ;)01:18
ompauldbzdeath, now there is not that much work to do and sudo X works for 15 minutes after the first kick off unless you change the values01:18
ompaulbrownie17, you want xine and totem so you do want to do that01:18
kemiki've even begun to use sudo on my other non-ubuntu boxes01:18
highvoltagei saw one similar to sound-juicer that was great, but can't remember what it was called.01:18
kemikinstead of using su -01:18
jack-thats grp, i bet01:18
ompaulkemik, and you find administration as easy I take it01:18
jack-erm, grip01:18
brownie17ompaul: but without Gstreamer i won't be able to play mp3's and stuff nwo will i?01:19
jack-cdparanoia/cdda2wav are console things01:19
kemikompaul:  ofcourse, if i was bugged out with sudo i wouldnt install it ;)01:19
ompaulbrownie17, ehh you will use totem01:19
apokryphosbrownie17: it's not removing gstreamer01:19
apokryphosbrownie17: only totem-gstreamer.01:19
Naliothapokryphos: howdy01:19
apokryphoshi there01:19
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brownie17apokryphos, so in all other programs, i can play mp3's?01:19
dbzdeathi still prefer to have a root account01:19
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apokryphosNalioth: nothing quite like a siesta in the day01:20
ompauldbzdeath, that is really very close to trolling in here, you have told us that several times01:20
apokryphosbrownie17: you're not removing gstreamer0.8-mad01:20
brownie17apokryphos, aren't I? ok01:20
apokryphosbrownie17: it tells you exactly what it removes01:20
brownie17apokryphos: i don't fully understand, but i think i get the gist of it01:20
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apokryphosbrownie17: what does it say it's giong to *remove*? Only totem-gstreamer, eh?01:21
brownie17apokryphos: yeh, only totem-gstreamer, that's all01:21
dbzdeathompaul: hmmm ... and you keep trying to fight me on my opinion...01:21
apokryphosbrownie17: then it's only removing the gstreamer-backend for *totem*01:21
apokryphosbrownie17: since totem will now be using the xine engine01:21
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brownie17apokryphos: will totem run mp3's through xine now?01:22
apokryphosindeed01:22
brownie17oh ok, so no worries?01:22
brownie17goodie01:22
apokryphos(well, it should -- I play mp3s with amaroK)01:22
Naliothapokryphos: i work on weekends only, 18 to 6 sat and sun nights01:22
apokryphos(with the xine engine)01:22
ompauldbzdeath, no I have told you in my opinion you are wrong, and that of most of the people who help in here, that is all, but I would suggest you are missing the point if you use a root account01:22
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ompaulapokryphos, with super cow powers?01:23
humehi.... i got a character set problem: i try to sync or copy files from my debian server running iso8859-1 to my ubuntu laptop (utf-8) through ssh,  and get character conversion problems. Is there a way to tell ssh to translate between iso8859-1 and utf8?01:23
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dbzdeathompaul: ... you do realise i don't STAY logged in as root...01:23
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queuetueHello. Can anyone recommend how to have a linux server that goes to sleep and wakes up on http and ssh requests?  A) is this possible?  B) Can someone show me docs?01:24
ompauldbzdeath, not the point, I do not agree with using root except when installing that is it, not open to debate with me, I would need a thesis to convince me that I have the wrong opinion01:25
codenutwho developed the "sudo" command?01:25
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brownie17so what does the "su" command do? what is the difference between that and "sudo"01:25
ompaulcodenut, some guy in at&t in 1981 if I recall correctly01:25
dbzdeathompaul: opinion can't be wrong... you should know that because opinion is NOT fact01:25
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codenutompaul:I have messed up more systems as root than I could care to imagine.01:26
brownie17dbzdeath: ompaul:if this was worth fighting over, then i would probably join in with one of you, but let's just all agree to disagree. becasue i don't like unecesary conflict, and i don'rt want anyone to get banned01:26
Naliothbrownie17: su is "switch user" sudo is "super user do"01:26
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bimbericodenut: http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/history.html01:27
brownie17nalioth: so whne people so "su", then mean, log in as root?01:27
sewoylhello, the network configuration window only shows a WEP key field for my wifi, but the network uses a WPA key. Is it impossible to connect to such a network with ubuntu 5.04?01:27
codenutthanks brownie.01:27
pirast!gcc401:27
ubotupirast: Bugger all, i dunno01:27
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brownie17codenut: :) no worries mate01:28
Carpe_Libertatem!info debaux01:28
ubotudebaux: (Debian Auxiliary Programs), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.1.7-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 144 kB01:28
ompauldbzdeath, okay, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic01:28
Naliothbrownie17: usually, "su" means log in as root, cuz most folks dont have a multiuser machine at home (and why would they log into Janes account anyway?)01:28
Orbypeople su rather than sudo cos its less to type :)01:28
brownie17nalioth: hahaha01:28
HappyFoolhrm. courtesan.com is not a domain i would associate with linux security01:29
kemikOrby:  indeed, and thus they more frequently break there systems01:29
brownie17orby: that ridiculous, its two more letters! it only takes about .25 of a second01:29
codenutway cool info on sudo, neat to note it is 10 years old.01:29
Orbykemik: they shouldnt even have root on their system then :D01:29
HappyFoolsounds more like 25 years to me01:29
codenutI like being isolated from my system a bit, I have to think more.01:30
codenutThinking more is good in my case.01:30
brownie17hahaha01:30
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kemikbrownie17:  nah, it takes 4 more letters for each command... doing "su" will log you in as root 'permanently'01:30
sewoylcan anybody help me with my wpa key thing?01:30
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Cashelthat was unpleasant... and I'm back to 14.4 :(01:31
kemikCashel:  modem ?01:31
brownie17kemik: oh i get you01:31
Cashelkemik, softmodem :(01:32
brownie17sewoyl: sorry, i nkow nothiing about wifi, ask madpilot or nalioth :) they alwasy help me out!01:32
brownie17so... who lives in australia?01:32
robert-in-auhello again01:32
Naliothbrownie17: that is a nice thing to say, but i've got some serious limits in my knowledge01:33
sewoylbrownie17, thanks for noticing me :)01:33
robert-in-aume!!!01:33
bimberisewoyl: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto01:33
brownie17sewoyl: i know how frustrating not knowing anything about an Os is, form experience :)01:33
brownie17nalioth: so did jesus :)01:33
Cashelno love for HappyFool?? mans been bustin his arse in here all night...01:34
slibsdoes anyone have a clue why, when i play some game, for an example stepmania, after i have stopped playing and i close the game, my keyboard won't let me hold keys anymore, but if i reboot x then, everythings is back to normal01:34
sewoylbimberi, thanks i'll check that out!01:34
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bimberisewoyl: yw :)01:34
Cashel"hold keys" ?01:35
BurgerMannI'm using KDE, does anyone know any irc clients that comes near mIRC?01:35
NaliothBurgerMann: try xchat01:35
bobbydBurgerMann, xchat is cool01:35
brownie17so, what's the deal with that ubuntu guide thing? it's unoffical and very unnacurate.01:35
BurgerMannI'm already using xchat.. heh01:35
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Naliothbrownie17: i see most folks' questions, but if i dont have the knowledge, i generally don't answer01:35
Naliothbrownie17: lets not bring that up.. .. ..01:35
HappyFool!tell brownie17 about ubuntuguide01:36
ompaul!ubuntuguide01:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.01:36
humeanyone knows if there is a way to make ssh translate between character sets?01:36
kemikthe official FAQ will be nice01:36
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brownie17nalioth: i like to answer anyway, even though i never know the answer, just so people know they've been heard. but either is fine.01:36
kemikhume:  nafaik01:36
ompaulhume, no, but I have one mad idea, set the environment in the shell that shh uses just before you ssh -C who@what01:37
humeok, thx01:37
ompaulhume that may be a good idea but as to how you would do it I do not know01:37
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robert-in-auwhere is the best place to put a small how-to to get toshiba A200 (maybe others) keyboard/touchpad working01:38
robert-in-aubecause i found how to do it01:38
HappyFoolrobert-in-au: https://wiki.ubuntu.com01:38
Cashelhume, is your reason for asking because of escape characters... ?01:38
robert-in-auk - shlud i put it in the forums too01:39
slibsrobert-in-au, also ubuntu forums is good01:39
humeCashel, no, swedish characters in file names (i know....but people use them)01:39
robert-in-auk01:39
HappyFoolrobert-in-au: you need to get an account; it's free and instant, here: http://launchpad.net01:39
kemik ;)01:39
humeCashel, makes files duplicate and enter chaos01:39
humekemik, right..:)...swede?01:39
kemikyup01:39
humesolution..:?...01:39
kemikas ompaul said perhaps.. try setting the locale variable just before SSH'ing01:40
codenutWhen I try to ssh into my ubuntu box I get disconnected right away01:40
codenutIt is there, just locked out, any hints on enabling it on my home network?01:40
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Cashelbummer01:41
slibscan you recommend me a way to get icons working again in themes (icons that belongs to downloaded theme) after i installed gperfection2 all icons in nautilus stopped working01:41
Alex_BOi have to compile a program, but it has a lot of dependecies.is there a way to resolve automatically these dependencies?01:41
Naliothcodenut: are you running "ssh codenut@boxes.ip.address.?01:42
HappyFoolcodenut:  /var/log/auth.log to find out why01:42
HappyFoolhmm01:42
HappyFoolwas still editing that. stupid emacs.01:42
codenutThanks I will look01:42
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brownie17back01:44
brownie17i wanted to change my name to just brownie, but it was allready registered01:45
hachrehehe01:45
bobbydhow do I stop applications I install adding themselves to the startup list?01:45
hachrenext time use /nick brownie :P01:45
bobbydand how do i gety a list of what is run on startup?01:45
reiki_how do I kill off a "ghost" of myself here?01:45
Naliothbobbyd: don't install them01:45
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bobbydNalioth, but I want to install some things and only run them sometimes01:46
Naliothreiki_: /msg nickserv help ghost01:46
hachrereiki_: /msg nickserv help01:46
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shinuanyone here uses a usb bluetooth adapter?01:46
codenutHappyfool, I just used a text editor in a terminal window called "editor"01:46
Nalioth!tell bobbyd about smeg01:46
codenutworked great.01:46
HappyFoolshinu: i do now and then01:46
brownieit still says it is ownedby someone else hachre01:46
Naliothbobbyd: ubotu is helping you out01:46
hachrebrownie: oh, thats what you mean01:46
Naliothbrownie: then you're on borrowed time01:46
browniebrb01:46
codenutI did not see SSHd in the auth.log files01:46
hachrebrownie: well you can use it as long as the other brownie doenst mind :)01:46
shinuHappyFool: simple question: how do i get it to work? :)01:47
codenutI would love to use Midnight Commander on this box.01:47
shinuHappyFool: can i use something similar to ndiswrapper or the likes?01:47
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HappyFoolshinu: i installed gnome-bluetooth, and then tweaked a pin file somewhere01:47
apokryphosompaul: no, that's an extra plugin ;-)01:47
apokryphosNalioth: cool; I do night shifts too often. How do you find them?01:47
bobbydNalioth, I'm not talking about menus, I'm talking about the sysv stuff01:47
shinuHappyFool: i just apt-got bluetooth-tools01:47
HappyFoolshinu: /etc/bluetooth/pin is one place to set the pin01:48
shinuHappyFool: wait.. ill search for a tutorial maybe...01:48
Naliothbobbyd: sorry, we're out of my league at this point01:48
HappyFoolshinu: i think there's a way to get a prompt, but this worked for me01:48
shinuHappyFool: so i have to set a fixed pin?01:48
Naliothapokryphos: its the 12 hour break in between that kills me01:48
apokryphosNalioth: do you sleep as soon as you get home?01:48
HappyFoolshinu: no, as i said, there's a way to get a prompt, but i'm not sure how01:48
shinusee01:48
shinuHappyFool: ill mess around a bit and come back :P01:49
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Naliothapokryphos: nope01:49
apokryphos:|01:49
ompaulapokryphos, ehh, okay01:49
Naliothapokryphos: monday morning (when i get off) i'm damn near dead01:49
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ilba7rany one use fluxbox?01:49
apokryphosNalioth: most I've done is 5 nights in a row =)01:50
Naliothapokryphos: 2 12-hour shifts with a 12hr break in between01:50
apokryphosNalioth: I pretty much always sleep when I get home.01:50
bimberibobbyd: 2 possibilities.  Have a look at update-rc.d or using ...01:50
apokryphosmine are only 10 hours though01:50
bimberi!tell bobbyd about bum01:50
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ompaul7 nights of 13 hours in the 80's, ohh what fun we had01:50
ompaulhalf an hour on each end to hand over01:51
NyliraIs there anyone here that knows how I can force dmegs to update the info it has?01:51
ompaulNylira, what info do you want it to have01:51
Naliothalright, i've got to have a nap01:52
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NyliraI had a usb device attached which crashed01:52
NyliraThe device itself is now unplugged01:52
highvoltagehow do i access my cellphone's gprs modem with bluetooth?01:52
Nylirabut dmesg keeps giving me crap that the device is still found01:52
browniehachre: i can't :( becasue i can't identify i can only get into the unreggistered lobby without his password01:52
hachreoh01:53
hachrebrownie: i see :(01:53
Nyliraamazingly though the SCSI disk it presumes its on gives errors .. which is rather logical since it is neither connected not mounted01:53
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Nyliramy proc/scsi/scsi correctly tells me which scis devices are attached01:54
pefhi01:55
Nyliradmegs seems to be the only pain since it refuses to update01:55
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Nyliraadded problem is now that when I plug in the device dmegs gets even more confused01:55
ompaulNylira, I do not have an answer but I would be looking at something like this http://tinyurl.com/72t6e and search the page for refresh01:55
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phohi01:55
ompaulNylira, can you plug it in to another usb port ?01:56
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phowhen i want to get the browser showing internetpages, or the messengers connect i have to reset the connection by the router after each boot....01:57
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phois there a program existing which solves that problem?01:57
Nylirawell I did that previously also01:58
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NyliraWhen I first plugged the device it allocated the thing to sdc01:58
Nyliradevice crashed01:58
Nyliraunmounted it01:58
NyliraDmesg showed it was still attached while proc/scsi/scsi told me it wasnt01:58
Nylirareplugged it01:58
Nylirathen it added the same device another time but now under sdd01:59
Carpe_Libertatemin cli what's the ls equivalent to DOS' "dir /w" ?01:59
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Nyliraso currently while I have now cleanly unmounted the device01:59
shinuHappyFool: i just downloaded gnome-bluetooth and it worked :P01:59
NyliraI STILL have this device on sdc AND sdd01:59
Nyliraor so says dmesg02:00
HappyFoolshinu: good stuff ;)02:00
spiralhi02:00
NyliraI looked at that page but I cant make much of it02:00
HappyFoolCarpe_Libertatem: plain 'ls' ?02:00
HappyFoolCarpe_Libertatem: what do you want from ls? /w is 'wide', right?02:00
Carpe_LibertatemYes.02:00
shinuHappyFool: ^^ but ill fiddle around later to see if i can get it working any *other* way :D02:00
dbzdeathanyone know of a good program to extract multiple archives? like zip rar arj etc.?02:01
Carpe_Libertatemok, I guess the window wasn't stretched large enough02:01
Carpe_Libertatem=P02:01
browniei guess you have all heard of winamp, i want to know if beep media player can acces the "shoutcast tv" broadcasts that winamp can?02:01
HappyFoolshinu: if you want to transfer files etc you can hack obex-ftp02:01
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HappyFoolshinu: but it's not (even remotely) user friendly02:01
dbzdeathbrownie: xmms should be able to access shoutcast... dunno about beep media player02:02
linforcerhey can anyone tell me where I find with whirch useflags  certain ubuntu packages have been compiled?02:02
linforcer(more specifically vlc)02:02
browniedbzdeath: which is better? the userguide recommened beep, is xmms good?02:02
dbzdeathbrownie: xmms is basically the same as winamp.. so if you like winamp i'd go with xmms02:02
shinuHappyFool: heh... i was trying to run this bluetooth file sharing but seems like it doesnt work xD02:02
dbzdeathi've never used beep media player02:03
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HappyFooldbzdeath: afaik bmp is xmms with gtk ui02:03
reiki!smeg02:03
ubotusmeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:03
HappyFoolshinu: the libs are there, but the apps need to catch up02:03
dbzdeathHappyFool: oh?02:03
shinuheh02:03
dbzdeathhmm HappyFool isn't xmms gtk ui?02:03
dbzdeathby default02:03
HappyFooldbzdeath: so i believe02:03
HappyFooldbzdeath: i'm not really in the know; this is what i remember reading here on #ubuntu02:04
dbzdeathah gtk vs gtk2?02:04
dbzdeathhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer02:04
browniethis is going to sound REALLY stupid, but what is a kernel02:05
brownieit has something to do with the basic i/o of the OS, but thats all i know02:06
HappyFoolbrownie: the lowest level of the OS. it manages the computer's resources (hardware) for higher levels of the system02:06
scumbolinforcer, I think you'd need to grab the source package to see the compile flags.  Some progs (e.g. vim) tell you their flags with a --version flag, but it's not standard.02:06
browniehappyfool: so why do things keep telling me to do stuff i need to recompile my own?02:06
Cashela kernel is the engine that runs the OS ... like back in the old msdos days command.com and io.sys / msdos.sys02:06
HappyFoolbrownie: things like ?02:06
browniefirewire ethernet02:07
Cashelyeah, what HappyFool said..02:07
reikihmmm... anyone installed smeg recently from backports? I get this: smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed02:07
reikitelling me it's a broken package02:07
apokryphos!smeg02:07
ubotu[smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:07
HappyFoolbrownie: hmm. in linux usually one can add support for extra hardware by loading modules, but i don't know about firewire ethernet02:07
apokryphoshm, I thought the backports one had a problem02:07
browniereiki: give up02:07
browniereiki: i got the same error, and if you ever get smeg to work correctly , i will be very surprised.02:07
browniereiki: i *eventually* managed to get it installed, but could no create new menus or icons02:08
HappyFoolbrownie: you can recompile the kernel, but it's not recommended for new users. read this wiki page:02:08
reikibrownie: that's weird because I used it on my first ubuntu install02:08
HappyFool!kernelhowto02:08
ubotu[kernelhowto]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto02:08
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browniehappyfool: i do not beleive in any way i have the expertise to do it... but i jsut wanted to learn about it02:09
dbzdeathhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-ac6c54092f78610507acbb69242c51551d689ff3 <--- anyone know the package name that archive manager mentioned there goes by? since i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed02:09
browniereiki: yes, well i have spent hours in here trying to fix the problem, and if you get it fixed, PLEASE email me at "brownie17@gmail.com" once again thats "brownie17@gmail.com"02:09
HappyFoolbrownie: it's not *that* hard, and it will certainly be educational. one can keep the stock ubuntu kernels around in case things go wrong02:09
HappyFooldbzdeath: file-roller, at a guess02:10
HappyFool!info file-roller02:10
ubotufile-roller: (an archive manager for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 661 kB, Installed size: 4352 kB02:10
fish7678hello I'm running a amd 64 bit system with an ati radion 9250 and I'm having intermittent crash/freez problems. can ne one help me02:10
fish7678?02:10
dbzdeathnuts unrar wasn't working for some reason... but i got unrar-nonfree and that works..02:10
shinuHappyFool: where do the files i send from my phone to the comp get saved?02:11
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HappyFoolshinu: um02:11
HappyFooli think they end up in your home directory02:11
HappyFoolshinu: e.g., /home/shinu02:11
Cashelfish7678, wheres it crashing?02:11
dbzdeathHappyFool: cheers.. that appears to be it02:12
browniehappyfool: i think if i could print that out and spent a day or two just fiddling and going through it, i could do it, but i do not want to risk what i have just spent three weeks getting to work02:12
qt2err, might someone help my firend fish7678, he's having so many problems getting his amd64 system stable it's not even funny.02:12
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dbzdeathqt2: what is going on exactly?02:12
qt2err, it jsut randomly freezes when using various gnome programs02:12
shinuHappyFool: seems like i didnt get that file then ;.;02:12
dbzdeathqt2: the gnome programs freeze? or the entire computer?02:13
brennerdbzdeath: non  free unrar can handle certain rar archives normal unrar can't iir.02:13
fish7678and the monitor goes out of its frequency range from time to time...02:13
HappyFoolqt2, fish7678: maybe use the non-accelerated nvidia drivers?02:13
shinuHappyFool: my phone timed out :P its going fine now...02:13
dbzdeathbrenner: ahhh02:13
qt2dbzdeath, the entire computer hard locks.02:13
qt2HappyFool, he's using an ati card.02:13
dbzdeathqt2: hmmm... just a default install?02:13
dbzdeathAHHH02:13
HappyFoolerr02:13
dbzdeathati = bad02:13
dbzdeathhaha02:13
fish7678hep02:13
fish7678lol02:13
apokryphosqt2: is this a fresh install?02:13
dbzdeathi'd look there probably02:13
brennerdbzdeath: quote from the unrar package descr.: "Can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format."02:14
qt2dbzdeath, heh, yeah, i know that, told him that too, he insisted on it anyway ;)02:14
qt2apokryphos, that it is.02:14
apokryphosthere's no reason why it should lock up02:14
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dbzdeathqt2: sorry but i can't be of much help if its the ati card... i've only ever used nvidia cards02:14
qt2and yet it does. ;)02:14
apokryphosregardless of whether you're using an ATI card. ATI provides lame support for Linux, but that mostly means you won't get cool affects with X02:14
browniethere is nothing wrong with ATI cards, they are a perfect replacemtn for an nivdia, at reasonable prices, and fairly stable if not overclocked02:15
dbzdeathapokryphos: yeah well i've still heard of it doing dodgy things02:15
apokryphosif everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems02:15
Cashelqt2, fish7678, did you comment the Section "DRI" and Load "glx" portions of the xorg.conf when you installed the xfglrx drivers?02:15
dbzdeathon a nix system02:15
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dbzdeath[20:15]  <apokryphos> if everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems<-- it might be just X ... they may not know the difference?02:15
browniei have been using the ATI card for three years, a 32 radeon VE and i can still play most modern games02:16
Cashelthe problem with ATI cards (the reason everyone hates them) are the drivers, not the cards themselves02:16
dbzdeathyeah the drivers are bad...02:16
dbzdeathin both systems really ... although linux is worse02:16
browniecashel: i've never had a problem with the drivers, what do you mean?02:16
dbzdeath*in both windows and linux02:16
apokryphosbrownie: on WIndows it's generally good02:16
apokryphosbut the Linux support/drivers are terrible. ATI simply don't care for unix02:17
dalamarlack of open source with ati drivers is the bad thing02:17
brownieapokryphos: i havent been using it for very long on linux02:17
dbzdeathlol my mate has to use a lower agp due to his ati card02:17
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dbzdeathagp speed02:17
browniedalamar:02:17
dbzdeathdue to incompatibility with his motherboard or something02:17
browniedbzdeath: get PCI express :)02:17
apokryphosqt2: does he have the appropriate kernel for his 64-bit?02:17
Cashelbrownie, AGP support is crappy, 3d excel in X is only recently workable and still a bit heavy on memory...02:17
brownieSLI!!!!02:17
dbzdeathbrownie: i'm not having the problem :P02:17
Casheltheres a work around for the radeon agp 4x issue under winblows..02:18
qt2Cashel, cant keep it going long enough to install fglrx.02:18
brownie"3D excel in X"? argh, jargon attack! i dont understand02:18
browniedbzdeath: :)02:18
qt2apokryphos, he downloaded the amd64 version of ubuntu, so i'd assume so.02:18
dbzdeathqt2: hmm... all default? server install?02:18
dalamar3d acceleration in X windows... basically why anyone has a high end graphics card02:18
Cashelqt2, what apokryphos just said... sounds like kernel issues...02:18
browniecashel: with ya02:19
qt2dbzdeath, yeah, i guess, he essentially just hit enter and filled in the ntwork and resolution info.02:19
dbzdeathhmm02:19
browniecashel: i think it was the excel that put me out02:19
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Casheldalamar :)02:19
dbzdeathqt2: when it freezes does ctrl + alt + backspace do anything?02:19
dalamarheh02:19
Cashelhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html&ei=I-UaQ4qQLrC6YLDjoaQL02:19
dbzdeathie. are you ABSOLUTELY sure the entire system freezes and not just X02:19
qt2apokryphos, Cashel, i'd assume that the amd64 versionof ubuntu  would have the correct kernel.02:20
styles`im suprised how fast ubuntu responds on my system02:20
apokryphosqt2: correct02:20
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qt2dbzdeath, no response, the sysrq method does nothing either.02:20
dbzdeathqt2: what mobo chipset? nvidia or via or?02:20
styles`i would think it runs at the same speed my gentoo was running02:20
qt2dbzdeath, nvidia nforce 402:20
styles`without all the damn compiling which now i think was a waste of time02:20
brownie17ARGH!!! note to self - do not press every key combination people say to you, just becasue they say it.. last time you logged off02:20
dbzdeathmmm nforce02:21
dbzdeathheard of them having some incompatibility issues02:21
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dbzdeathbrownie17: lol!! i think i did that first time i found out about ctrl + alt + backspace02:21
dbzdeathsorry02:21
brownie17dbzdeath: haha not your fault, my inquisite nature02:21
dbzdeathcuriosity killed the cat02:22
brownie17dbzdeath: i was expecting it to be like control alt delete02:22
dbzdeathor... X :P02:22
brownie17dbzdeath: so is there a control + alt + del type replacement thing?02:22
scumboqt2, have you tried the system without running X?  Maybe this problem isn't the gfx card.02:22
Cashelqt2, maybe try noapci according to one of those in that link I sent you...02:22
dbzdeathbrownie17: depends on the window manager...02:22
brownie17im using gnome if that's what your asking02:23
dbzdeathCashel: that link brings you to various posts?02:23
dbzdeathbrownie17: i've used gnome for .... 15 mins at most i hate the thing02:23
dbzdeathso i have no idea about knome02:23
dbzdeath*gnome02:23
dbzdeathi prefer xfce :)02:23
Cashelyes02:23
Cashelvarious posts..02:23
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dalamarive seen links about setting ctrl+alt+del to run system monitor, which is basically what it does in windows02:24
Cashelbut then I'm a weirdo02:24
brownie17dbzdeath: really? is KDE really any better!? i remember in FEDORA you cna choose either, but i don't remember there being any realy big differnece, although i only used fedora for 15 mins max when i discovered there was no drivers for my dial up modem02:24
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dbzdeathbrownie17: i prefer kde to gnome.. but kde is a bit too bulky for me02:24
fish7678ubuntu froze agin...02:24
dbzdeathi find icewm and fluxbox a little bare02:24
qt2scumbo, as gar as i could tell, it worked fine in console mode.02:24
dbzdeathand xfce is sorta in the middle02:24
styles`ubuntu doesnt have anything to check what services are started up at boot time?02:24
dbzdeathso thats why i like xfce :)02:24
brownie17dbzdeath: what is xfce? i have not really ever heard much about it02:25
qt2Cashel, whats the difference between noapci and noacpi?02:25
Cashelfish7678, I'd try reading some of these: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html02:25
brownie17!tell brownie about xfce02:25
dalamarstyles`, install BUM02:25
styles`kde is evil =P02:25
dbzdeathbrownie17: xfce.org .. check out the screenies02:25
Cashelqt2, ones a typo, the other isnt, lol02:25
styles`is it compatible with gtk gnome?02:25
qt2acpi is the non-typo. :P02:25
dbzdeathstyles`: yeah kde is a pain.. specially being on gentoo and waiting for it to compile ... all that crap02:25
styles`ur on gentoo?02:25
brownie17dbzdeath: is it easy to just switch between gnome and one of the others with just a restart? or is there mass work to switch?02:25
qt2Cashel,  and i already tried having acpi disabled, no effect02:26
Orbyummm where would one find ATI X300 drivers for ubuntu ? ati dont seem to be of much help02:26
styles`my gentoo started to slow down for some reason so i just said hell with it and installed a rpm based distro02:26
dbzdeathbrownie17: should be as easy as apt-get install xfce4 and then rebooting and in gdm(i assume your using) choose xfce as the session? i think02:26
qt2occasionally, instead of locking up, his monitor frequency goes out of range.02:26
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HappyFoolOrby: try the wiki instructions for ati02:26
HappyFool!tell Orby about ati02:26
dbzdeathremoving gnome... there is a thread on the forums somewhere to do it02:26
qt2which he also cant recover from.02:26
OrbyHappyFool: thanks :D02:26
dbzdeath!tell dbzdeath about ati02:26
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dbzdeathhmm02:27
HappyFooldbzdeath: try this ;) http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ (ubotu web-interface)02:27
brownie17dbzdeath: maybe before i try another desktop enviroment i should actually become a "not complete rookie" at linux in general02:27
styles`emerge gnome02:27
styles`lol02:27
styles`ud be there for like 2 days02:27
phoknows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?02:27
dbzdeathbrownie17: hehe well thats probably wise... unless you got kubuntu instead of ubuntu02:28
brownie17pho: you using a d-link?02:28
styles`does apt-get have a search function02:28
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HappyFoolstyles`: use 'apt-cache search'02:28
dbzdeathstyles`: apt-cache search package02:28
dbzdeathbeat me to it02:28
dbzdeathhaha02:28
phobrownie17: hmm... d-link ... router?02:28
HappyFoolstyles`: synaptic has a fairly useful search/browse feature02:28
styles`thanks02:28
brownie17so kubuntu is like a whole new cd? with KDE? but you can just apt-get XFCE? why is that?02:28
styles`HappyFool, im a command freak =P02:28
styles`coming from gentoo02:28
apokryphosbrownie17: because there is no proper xfce team02:29
brownie17pho: d-link is a brand of modem's and router02:29
HappyFoolbrownie17: you can 'apt-get kubuntu-desktop' too. There's a limit to what can be fitted on one CD02:29
qt2i just noticed, his radeon isnt listed as supported on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards02:29
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dbzdeathbrownie17: well you can do apt-get kubuntu-desktop ? or is it kubuntu and it will install kubuntu02:29
apokryphosHappyFool: I think he's asking why there isn't a separate ubuntu+xfce cd02:29
phobrownie17: yes... i know... it is a siemens i think....02:29
qt2might that be a problem?02:29
apokryphosdbzdeath: you can get kubuntu ISOs and you can of course install kde from ubuntu02:29
brownie17pho: sorry, your better off asking someone else02:29
coxc24Can anyone help me with a ddclient problem?02:30
dbzdeathapokryphos: i know :) it was brownie17's question i was answering02:30
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brownie17apokryphos: i only have 256, how big would KDE be to download? just through apt-get?02:30
phobrownie17: ok... thx....02:30
apokryphosbrownie17: find out for yourself. Do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:30
brownie17qt2: yes, i think so!02:30
apokryphosbrownie17: it'll tell you how much it plans to get, and you can choose to cancel before that.02:30
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brownie17apokryphos02:31
dbzdeathwould be nice to run ubuntu instead02:31
qt2brownie17, eh?02:31
Alex_BOHI! i've a problem compiling a program: "C compiler cannot create executables".what program do i need?02:31
apokryphosbrownie17: hm?02:31
brownie17it needs to download 114 meg02:31
dbzdeathAlex_BO: apt-get install build-essentials02:31
HappyFoolbuild-essential  (no s ;)02:32
snoogerthi, when i try to compile grub under amd64, i've got this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables".... can you help me?02:32
apokryphosdbzdeath: build-essential :)02:32
dbzdeathmy bad02:32
HappyFoolsnoogert: you also need build-essential02:32
Cashelanyone familiar w/ glade? Wondering what the diff between glade-2 and glade-gnome-2 is.... one replaces the other...02:32
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HappyFoolit's on the cd, so it should easily be installable02:32
dbzdeathwhy not just apt-get install grub?02:32
brownie17gtg guys02:32
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Alex_BOdbzdeath, it doesn't work however02:33
styles`wonder why cant i find xfce02:33
HappyFoolstyles`: you probably need to add repositories02:33
phoknows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?02:33
dbzdeathAlex_BO: apt-get install build-essential no s on the end02:33
coxc24Have you tried gcc for a compiler, it was recommened to me02:33
dalamargot the corect repos installed?02:33
dbzdeathyeah or that02:33
HappyFool!tell styles` about repositories02:33
Alex_BOdbzdeath, sorry: i have installed build-essential without the "s"02:34
styles`thanks02:34
snoogertHappyFool: i've installed build-essential... but it's the same...02:34
dbzdeathAlex_BO: ok and it still gives the same errror?02:34
dbzdeath*error02:34
Alex_BOdbzdeath, yes02:34
mushtaqhi is there are software to grab a moving cursor i mean to convert mouse movement to flash or something else02:34
mushtaq?02:34
HappyFoolsnoogert: can you paste the complete error log on the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:34
dalamarstyles`, did you find BUM? really good for managing services02:35
dbzdeathhmmm Alex_BO type cc in a terminal and tell me what it says please02:35
Alex_BOcc: no input files02:35
dbzdeathyeah thats ok02:35
dbzdeathAlex_BO:  hmmthis is what program?02:35
dbzdeath*hmm this02:36
styles`dalamar, not yet, i didnt see it, i guess i will after adding the other repos02:36
Alex_BOdbzdeath, wine, i'm tring to compile it02:36
dbzdeathAlex_BO: is this a amd64 system?02:36
dalamarstyles`, yeah should be in there, nice gui etc02:36
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Alex_BOdbzdeath, my system is amd64, but there isn't a package for my system02:37
snoogertHappyFool: do you need all the content of config.log?02:37
dbzdeathAlex_BO: ahhh :) thats because wine won't work on amd6402:37
HappyFoolsnoogert: well, maybe just the relevant bits02:37
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Alex_BOdbzdeath, and how can i do?02:37
Cashel!tell cashel about gnuchess02:37
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HappyFoolsnoogert: you have any guesses about what's wrong?02:37
iveqyhello, I wonder how to change charset to iso-8859-10 in console mode...02:38
dbzdeathAlex_BO: if you can get a wine 32bit binary that might work or you will need a 32bit chroot(basically another mini ubuntu system inside your current one)02:38
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HappyFoolCashel: try '/query ubotu' and then 'info gnuchess'02:38
Cashelhmmm anyone know a nice front end for gnuchess?02:38
Alex_BOdbzdeath, well...i don't wanna install another ubuntu inside the mine02:38
HappyFoolCashel: maybe xboard?02:39
ompauliveqy,  terminal set - character encoding - your character set02:39
Cashelxboard! thanks ...couldnt remember that much even, heh02:39
iveqyompaul thx, but I don't have the iso-8859-10 on my system, do you know witch package to download?02:39
dbzdeathAlex_BO: if you have the drive space it isn't a big deal... but in that case your best bet is to find a 32 bit binary of wine somewhere... a slackware package perhaps?02:39
ompaulAlex_BO, if you do not do that, you will not be able to get applications that only exist as 32 bit at this time to run on your machine02:40
Alex_BOdbzdeath, because i figured out that there aren't programs like DVDShrink in Linux02:40
snoogertHappyFool: ok, i've do it02:40
dbzdeathAlex_BO: yeah.. well if you have cedega... that should work02:40
Alex_BOdbzdeath, and i read that the only way it's to emule them02:40
reikiI have downloaded what appear to be gnome themes. The one I am interested in is called Gnant. However I can't seem to find where Gnome is storing themes so I can put this directory there. Anyone have a clue for me? :)02:40
dbzdeathyup basically Alex_BO02:41
dbzdeath!tell Alex_BO about 32bit chroot02:41
dbzdeathmight wanna look at that02:41
dbzdeathit isn't too hard02:41
LaserLineHello people, I have a question please...02:41
iveqyompaul "set character encoding iso-8859-10" doesn't work. "invalid option"02:41
HappyFoolsnoogert: stand-by02:41
GnonthgolLaserLine: go ahead02:41
Alex_BOdbzdeath, I've already read it02:42
dalamarI hope amd64 us better supported in the future for ubuntu, seems kind of shaky at the moment .. one of the reasons I didn't buy one when I upgraded recently02:42
snoogertHappyFool: ok02:42
ompauliveqy, the acutal package  may be seen in  apt-cache search font  | grep iso02:42
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HappyFoolsnoogert: hmm02:42
Alex_BOdbzdeath, don't you know a program like DVD Shrink?02:42
LaserLineGnonthgol - In gnome Session Manager -> Startup Programs --- what does the "order" column mean ?02:42
dbzdeathAlex_BO: hmm well i can't be of much help ... if the ubuntu forums don't have a answer for you ... you can give the gentoo forums a shot .. i find lots of distro inspecific info there02:42
CashelLaserLine, so ask :)02:42
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iveqyompaul np..02:42
dbzdeathAlex_BO: not one that runs on linux... no02:42
LaserLineCashel - I asked .. :)02:43
HappyFooli think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc02:43
lsuactiafnerwhat /dev/ are there but sd and hd? i want to mount an ATA disk02:43
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Alex_BOdbzdeath, i have a win2k on virtual machine.i can run DVDShrink here02:43
Alex_BOdbzdeath, do you think that's possible?02:43
CashelI guess I'm lagging :)02:43
HappyFoolsnoogert: (oops) i think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc02:43
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GnonthgolLaserLine: I think it is the order of the programs to start02:44
snoogertHappyFool: do you know what are this libs?02:44
dalamarLaserLine, should be what order the programs are run in, some programs need others running before they are started etc02:44
HappyFooldoes anyone know what to install to get 32-bit gcc compatibility libs for amd64?02:44
LaserLineGnonthgol - so the lower the number, the faster it get's loaded ?02:44
Cashellsuactiafner, ATA is hd I believe..02:44
dbzdeathAlex_BO: hmmm yes but i wouldn't recommend attempting to burn the iso in a vm... i have no idea if vmware can do that02:45
snoogertHappyFool: i've already lib32gcc1 installed...02:45
dbzdeathHappyFool: hmmm don't you just use -m32?02:45
dalamardvd shrink rips dvds doesnt it?02:45
dbzdeathdalamar: yeah it also can re-encode them so they can be made small enough... say dvd9 to dvd502:46
Alex_BOdbzdeath, i know that dvdshrink can make iso or only VOB and AUDIO files.i can get them to linux and burn them in linux.what do you think about?02:46
dbzdeathAlex_BO: sounds like a plan :)02:46
HappyFooldbzdeath: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189502:46
dalamardbzdeath, aha02:46
dbzdeathimo output to iso02:46
dbzdeathits easier02:46
GnonthgolLaserLine: if a program got lower number then another it it going to be run before yes02:46
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HappyFoolsnoogert: it *might* be lib32gcc102:46
ofer0somebody here with a 64bit processor?02:47
HappyFoolsnoogert: but i'm not sure02:47
LaserLineGnonthgol Thanks LD02:47
LaserLineLD= :D02:47
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dbzdeathHappyFool: install ia32-libs i dunno if it will solve it... but its a good thing to have installed02:47
lsuactiafnerofer0 : yeh?02:47
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snoogertHappyFool: yes. i've already lib32gcc1... but i doesn't work...02:47
dbzdeathHappyFool: this is the problem i was having earlier unfortunately02:47
Alex_BOdbzdeath, well...that seems the only way... can i ask you a question?i'd like to make some backups; someone here had adviced me to mondo, but there isn't for amd64.can you advice me something else?02:47
HappyFooldbzdeath: not for me, for snoogert02:48
Cashelno bells and whistles to be sure, but no problems! soooo cool... (Can you tell I switched from suse? :P )02:48
dbzdeathi was trying to compile p7zip ... then i realised it tried to compile as a 32bit app and i just changed it to 64bit and viola02:48
HappyFoolsnoogert: sorry, it's hard for me to debug -- i don't have amd64 here02:48
ofer0lsuactiafner, please give me output of: "ls -al `which ls`"02:48
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dalamarCashel, i've noticed its kind of 'touchy' fot me though, doesn't like you doing other things while its running/downloading ;)02:48
slibshi, can anyone remember what was the command i have to add in hl2 launch options in order to make it work?02:48
dbzdeathAlex_BO: i don't know about backups... but looking into webmin *may* be of some help02:49
snoogertHappyFool: ok, don't worry... thanks....02:49
lsuactiafner-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 90464 2005-03-18 15:23 /bin/ls02:49
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lsuactiafner851458de9e597defc95b0c7e66a85438  /bin/ls02:49
ofer0thank you very much!!02:49
ofer0:)02:49
dbzdeathsnoogert: what program are you trying to compile?02:49
Casheldalamar, I've been serfing the web fine while it does.... I've canceled / restarted its downloads to change whats on its list too.... it didnt mind.... tho I dont have high speed internet, that may change things...02:49
dalamarCashel, I dont have a real fast computer so that might be my issue as well02:50
reikihow do I start file roller from terminal as sudo? sudo file-roller?02:51
dbzdeathyeah reiki02:51
reikior would it be gksudo?02:51
dbzdeathhmmm02:51
dbzdeathgksudo to be safe02:51
snoogertdbzdeath: i try to compile grub02:52
dbzdeathsnoogert: ... hmm... why do you want a 32bit grub?02:52
snoogertdbzdeath: no, i don't want a 32bit grub...02:52
dbzdeathsnoogert: open up the makefile02:53
dbzdeathit should have -m32 somewhere?02:53
snoogertdbzdeath: just a moment...02:53
HappyFoolthe config.log shows -m3202:53
darksatanicLast time I heard anything about it, grub didn't build as a 64-bit binary.02:53
dbzdeathyeah HappyFool that shouldn't be happening02:54
HappyFoolmaybe it needs to be 32 bit (?). i've never compiled grub02:54
darksatanicAFAIK, it has to be built as 32-bit.02:54
lsuactiafnerif you use -m32 in glibc of ubuntu it doesnt work as it should, you need gcc402:55
HappyFooli suppose the other question would be why can't you use the grub from the install cd ?02:55
snoogertdbzdeath: i've checked the "Makefile.in" but non m32....02:55
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HappyFoollsuactiafner: ah-ha02:55
dbzdeathoh?02:55
dazvidDoes anyone here run a creative audigy 2 card?02:56
dbzdeathsnoogert: is there a reason why you can't use the ubuntu package?02:56
phoanyone knows howto make the internet connection run properly? its really not nice to have to reset the router after each reboot...02:56
dbzdeathpho: what do you mean exactly?02:56
snoogertdbzdeath: i've modified it, so i want recompile it...02:57
dbzdeathoh02:57
dbzdeathhmm02:57
phodbzdeath: when i have rebooted ubuntu... my browser cant load webpages... but updating the system over the ubuntu servers is working....02:57
phodbzdeath: messengers and irc clients dont have connection to the internet either....02:58
lsuactiafnerpho : your browser might be trying to use a proxy that doesnt exist02:58
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thenukelsuactiafner: irc-clients.. messenger..02:58
phodbzdeath: then i have to disconnect the connection by the router and reconnect....02:58
HappyFoolsnoogert: tried installing gcc-4.0 ?02:58
HappyFoolsnoogert: then 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure'02:58
dbzdeathpho: hmm can you ping web servers? like say google.com?02:58
phodbzdeath: after a while it runs...02:59
lsuactiafnerdhcp problems?02:59
lsuactiafneri dont know..02:59
lsuactiafnerbbl working..02:59
phodbzdeath: mostly not...02:59
dbzdeathsounds like dhcp02:59
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snoogertdbzdeath: i've found the -m32 flag in configure.ac. can this help?02:59
phodbzdeath: managed it once ... but he only could ping google.... =)02:59
TonarCan i boot Ubuntu without the initial ramdisk?02:59
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dbzdeathsnoogert: hmm.... well i'm not sure if its a good idea to use it as a 64bit binary... but you can give it a shot03:00
dbzdeathTonar: yes if you have the basic needed hardware compiled into the kernel03:00
snoogertHappyFool: but wirg gcc4 i'll got a pre 64bit executable?03:00
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phodbzdeath: there must be a solution... i read a lot about similar problems...03:00
HappyFoolsnoogert: according to lsuactiafner, -m32 needs gcc-4.003:01
ec18672i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...03:01
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dbzdeathpho: hmm what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?03:01
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HappyFoolsnoogert: which is in agreement with the package description03:01
dbzdeathis it correct?03:01
snoogertdbzdeath: bur the original grub bin files are 32bit under amd64?03:01
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beekayhow can i play m4a files in music player?03:01
phodbzdeath: nameserver 192.168.2.103:01
dbzdeathsnoogert: are they?03:01
phodbzdeath: thats the ip of the router03:01
dbzdeathpho: is that the address of your router? if so try changing that to your isp's dns server or any dns server really03:02
dbzdeathyeah03:02
ec18672i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...03:02
HappyFoolmaybe the amd64 is in 32-bit mode on power-on (?)03:02
dbzdeathalthough you will need to turn off dhcp if it is on03:02
beekayhow can i play m4a files in music player? or anything for that matter03:02
snoogertdbzdeath: the original grub files under amd64 are 32bit binaries?03:02
dbzdeathotherwise it won't survive a reboot without getting the settings from your router03:02
beekaymp4 etc03:02
dbzdeathsnoogert: i don't know but if they are... then don't compile grub as 64bit03:03
thrush_2ec18672, wouldnt it be more fun to write it yourself?03:03
HappyFool!tell beekay about restricted03:03
HappyFoolbeekay: that'll get you started, at least; not sure if it supports all of those03:03
phodbzdeath: where do i get to know my isp's dns server?03:03
beekayokay03:03
beekaythanks man03:03
dbzdeathpho: web page? perhaps it is in your router's config?03:03
Tonarwhy has the mplayer package no dvd support compiled in?03:04
snoogertdbzdeath: ok, i'll try to compile with gcc4 as says HappyFool03:04
HappyFoolTonar: legal reasons03:04
dbzdeathsnoogert: yeah give that a shot .. i have no idea about gcc 403:04
HappyFoolTonar: you can probably enable it following the restrictedformats wiki page instructions03:04
ec18672thrush, its my second intallation of ubuntu, at first inst'n i found a script.03:04
HappyFool!tell Tonar about restricted03:04
HappyFoolsnoogert: please let us know if it works03:05
phodbzdeath: the routers says tehre is a primary and a secondary  DNS03:05
dbzdeathHappyFool: that bot is handy :)03:05
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HappyFoolthe bot is super-cool. a bit cheeky sometimes, tho.03:05
ec18672thrush, do you know sth like that ?03:05
dbzdeathpho: yeah and those ip's you should place into /etc/resolv.conf like this nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx03:05
dbzdeatherm i missed the last octet03:05
Tonarbut mplayer is able to read dvd without these libdvdcss libary.03:06
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phodbzdeath: both?03:06
dbzdeathTonar: libdvdcss afaik is for dvd navigation support?03:06
dbzdeathpho: yes both on seperate lines though... so two nameserver entries03:06
phodbzdeath: ok...03:06
dbzdeathbut do that AFTER you reboot or turn off dhcp03:06
ec18672thrush_2, do you know sth like that ?03:07
thrush_2ec18672, you might be talking about a ubuntuaddon.zip file?  You should be able to google it but I would suggest looking in Ubuntu wiki and trying to go through it yourself03:07
dbzdeathTonar: menu support03:07
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phodbzdeath: gonna reboot now... =)03:07
dbzdeathpho: good luck03:07
kamikazespongehow do i make a user a member of a group?03:07
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dalamarkamikazesponge, in gnome?03:08
dbzdeathkamikazesponge: usermod -G group1,group2 username03:08
HappyFoolTonar: only unencrypted dvds, i thought?03:08
ec18672google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.03:08
dbzdeathreplace group1,group2 with the groups you want them in03:08
TonarHappyFool: no not really03:08
kamikazespongedbzdeath: so i was close.. i did usermod <user> -G group03:08
kamikazespongethx03:08
dbzdeathyeah wrong way round03:08
ec18672trush_2,google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.03:08
TonarHappyFool: a uncrippled compiled mplayer is able to play alot more than the mplayer ubuntu delivers03:08
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dbzdeathkamikazesponge: keep in mind that it doesn't append the group03:08
dbzdeathit replaces it03:08
HappyFoolTonar: in that case it has a decss capability, which is presumably disabled in ubuntu for legal reasons03:08
kamikazespongedbzdeath: oops >.<03:09
TonarHappyFool: also wmv?03:09
snoogertHappyFool: i've installed gcc4, then CC=gcc-4.0, then ./configure... but nothing...03:09
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Bateau_hey! i get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1896 when i try to update laptop-mode-tools in synaptic. and i get this error trying to do dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1897 . can anyone help me?03:09
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HappyFoolTonar: you need w32codecs for wmv, afaik03:09
HappyFoolsnoogert: nothing as in it still breaks?03:09
TonarHappyFool: ah thx03:09
HappyFoolsnoogert: same error?03:09
coxc24I am trying to install mono pod and get the error "checking for mono >= 1.1.6... Package mono was not found in the pkg-config search path.03:09
coxc24Perhaps you should add the directory containing `mono.pc'03:09
coxc24to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable03:09
coxc24No package 'mono' found03:09
coxc24" when I use the /.configure command. Can anyone help me please?03:09
thrush_2ec18672, if its a specific script your looking for I probably cant help.  But they are very easy to write and a good thing to learn03:09
dbzdeathkamikazesponge: if you want the user to have sudo access make sure they are in the sudo group..03:09
snoogertHappyFool: yes same error...03:10
HappyFoolsnoogert: hrm03:10
kamikazespongedbzdeath: that one was admin i believe, that's the group i wanted to add it to03:10
dbzdeathah03:10
kamikazespongedbzdeath: but can you list groups of a user too?03:10
dbzdeathum kamikazesponge you can do cat /etc/group | grep username03:10
ec18672trush_2,you r right, i am also tryin to learn, i wasted to much time, so i just want to install.03:11
kamikazespongedbzdeath: thx03:11
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slibshow do i make shorcut in menu for warcraft 3 an example? (runs trought cedega, so how should i set the command? /home/anacron/warcraft/cedega Frozen Throne.exe wont' work)03:12
Cashelok im out.. good night folks...03:12
thrush_2ec18672, sorry not more help if you feel like doing it yourself everything should be at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:12
ec18672trush_2,thanx03:12
TonarMy boot messages have alot of warnings errors etc? is this normal?03:13
Bateau_Help----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189803:13
slibsTonar: i don't get any errors03:13
Tonari paste the on the pastepage03:14
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dalamaranyone here use the free version of cedega? does it support much or is it better to get a subscription? I'm not looking to run any cutting-edge games03:14
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fblade1987how can i run .bin files ? what chmod do i have to do?03:15
slibsdalamar: of course you can try free one first, then if it doesn't work for you, then get the "real one"03:15
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mushtaqhi i am trying to compile vnc2swf when i do configure it stops with following error03:15
mushtaq error: *** ming missing - please install first or check config.log03:15
dalamarslibs, do you know where yo find it? can you d/l off the transgaming website?03:16
slibsdalamar: the cvs?03:16
mushtaqwhen i check config.log it shows03:16
Bateau_Help please :( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189803:16
lJlolelfblade1987, you need to use the -x flag, or a +103:16
HappyFoolfblade1987: try 'sh filename.bin' or 'chmod a+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin'03:16
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mushtaq/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lming03:17
slibsdalamar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega?highlight=%28cedega%29 <- all you need03:17
ilba7r!realplayer03:18
ubotuit has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:18
slibsbut anyway can someone help me with my question, how to make shortcut so that it runs games, like if i want to run warcraft with cedega, what's the "command" for running that?03:18
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HappyFoolBateau_: does 'apt-get remove laptop-mode-tools' help ?03:19
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dalamarBateau_, is your nick from GITS?03:20
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Bateau_dalamar: indeed it is :) except they changed it :P03:20
snoogertHappyFool: ok, now i've compiled it...03:21
lJlolelslibs, dont know about cedega, but wine is, wine programname.exe03:21
HappyFoolsnoogert: how?03:21
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dalamarBateau_, that's cool, i loved the movie and stand-alone complex is pretty cool too heh ;)03:21
snoogertHappyFool: i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"03:21
Bateau_dalamar: yupp :D i love it to :D03:21
TonarMy Errors/Warning: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189903:22
HappyFoolsnoogert: 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure' should work (no ; anywhere), but OK03:22
snoogertHappyFool: thanks for support!03:22
HappyFoolsnoogert: np. good luck with your custom grub (eek!)03:22
mushtaqexit03:22
snoogertHappyFool: :-)03:22
Bateau_HappyFool: i did what you said. and now it is installing allot of stuff! o.003:23
snoogertdbzdeath: now all work. thanks also to you!03:23
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dbzdeathsnoogert: gcc 4 works?03:24
HappyFoolBateau_: dist-upgrading to breezy?03:24
snoogertdbzdeath: yes. i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"03:24
Bateau_HappyFool: huh? im not doing that now... i only removed laptop-mode-tools03:25
Bateau_now its a total takeoff. its installing and setting up all bunch of things03:25
dbzdeathsnoogert: guess i'll keep that in mind :)03:25
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Bateau_ah, there it stopped03:26
dbzdeathshouldn't it be export CC=gcc-4.0;./configure03:26
Bateau_hmm, brb03:26
HappyFoolBateau_: hmm. it probably remembered what it was trying to do before, but i'm not helluva sure how apt works03:26
snoogertdbzdeath: i also :)03:27
Tonarmmh ok i will install mplayer to ~/. Has anybody an idea how to reconfigure the mplayer plugin to work with my homemade mplayer? Anyone an idea with my errors above?03:27
Bateau_HappyFool: well, ill try a reboot. se what happens :) if im not back... im doing a reinstall :P03:27
HappyFoolheh03:27
thrush_2Bateau_, lastime i tried to remove laptop someting or other it wanted to remove gnome...03:28
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zblachhi03:29
zblachi found a script, a while ago, that detects other partitions i have on my computer. since then i've had to reinstall. any idea where i can find this script again?03:30
mcphailzblach: try fdisk03:30
HappyFool!windowsdrives03:30
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically03:30
zblachthanks fool03:31
HappyFoolif that bot asks me if i'm on ritalin one more time, i'm going to blow a fuse03:31
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slibszblach: it's called winmac_fstab right?, google that03:31
slibsoh too late :<03:32
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zblachslibs, thanks anyways03:33
zblachnow, problem 203:33
zblachi'm using an ATI graphics card, and it should be pretty fast, but it isn't03:33
HappyFool!ati03:33
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:33
zblacheheh...03:33
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sakamoto_omg ... ubuntu is so great03:35
sakamoto_is someone fast used to it03:35
supernixHi03:36
sakamoto_when he used only microshit for several years03:36
sakamoto_hi supernix03:36
supernixcan someone help me with a printer problem ?03:36
supernixHi03:36
supernix:D03:36
sakamoto_definately not me03:36
supernixI keep getting my text on the left side of the page cut off03:36
sakamoto_im still in the O_o period03:36
supernix:D03:36
zblachsupernix, wrong driver perhaps?03:36
sakamoto_first time i booted ubuntu03:36
sakamoto_so great03:36
zblachsakamoto_, agreed. but i'm still in the 0_0;; phase03:37
sakamoto_dual boot with grub works perfect03:37
supernixnah I checked the driver to use before I ever plugged it in03:37
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sakamoto_lol03:37
supernixShould I use customer margins zblach  ?03:37
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zblachsupernix, probably not. at work we have that problem 0.1% of the time anyways, correct drivers and all. it could be almost anything03:38
zblachalright! problem #3. autodetecting network printers03:38
supernixhmmm ok thanks for your help zblach definately appreciated03:39
twoSharpi get an error while installing cdemu on ubuntu hoary: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop." what does this?03:39
zblachsupernix, sorry i couldn't help more03:39
supernixLOL I can't even get the ones connected to the PC to work 100% so I surely wont be much help03:39
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kanrininhey should I install the mozilla-firefox package or just firefox?  Are they the same?  Firefox won't start, so I'm reinstalling.03:40
reikithe mozilla-firefox package IS firefox03:41
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lJlolelbreezy firefox is still 1.0.6?03:41
zblach!printing03:41
ubotuzblach: Are you on ritalin?03:41
zblach!yes ^_^03:41
ubotuI don't know, zblach03:41
zblach!print03:41
ubotuzblach: No idea03:41
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MrBearhi people03:41
zblachhowdy03:41
theeilhow do i make mutt read messages i get with fetchmail?03:42
MrBearhow are ya all03:42
zblachyou can't teach that old dog new tricks03:42
kanrininthanks reiki...what about the gnome support package?03:42
zblachbear, we're okay03:42
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MrBearnew to linux a friend directed me here03:42
zblachsame03:43
reikikanrinin: I just did sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and it all worked03:43
MrBeargetting 5.04 right now03:43
HappyFooltheeil: i think it's more a question of setting up fetchmail than setting up mutt03:44
reikikanrinin: And I'm in a pretty much default Ubuntu 5.04 install. So ... should be pretty easy :)03:44
GnonthgolMrBear: welcome to the world where evrything is possible03:44
MrBearthanks03:44
kanriningotcha.  I'm still getting used to the sudo apt-get stuff.  I'm a former fedora core user.03:44
reikiexcept getting your microphone to work! :)03:44
kanrinin*the entire room hisses* :-)03:44
theeilHappyFool: sure, i can't even find where fetchmail puts the messages03:45
HappyFooltheeil: fetchmail should drop your mail in /var/spool/mail/<youruser>, and mutt should find it there03:45
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MrBearI am a complete novice to linux03:45
MrBearmy friend told me to get ubuntu03:45
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dalamari just got a cedega subscription, im pumped! wh00.03:45
MrBearwhat is cedega03:45
HappyFooltheeil: are you familiar with mutt? you might find something like evolution a bit easier03:45
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theeilHappyFool: no, i can use it just fine03:46
reikiMrBear: it's not HARD... it's just DIFFERENT if you're used to Windows operating systems. So dive in and don't be afraid to ask questions. Lots of folks here to help.03:46
HappyFooltheeil: i'm using fetchmail here, though i set it up months ago03:46
dalamarMrBear, nifty program that lets you play windows games real well on linux03:46
dalamar*some* games I should say03:46
theeilHappyFool: fetchmail works, but the messages are not in mutt03:47
HappyFooltheeil: is there anything in /var/spool/mail ?03:47
theeilHappyFool: my username is there but the file is empty03:47
MrBearwhat you need to pay a program to play games you already for sigh03:47
MrBearthanks reiki :)03:48
MrBearwell I am sick of thw hole windows thing03:48
theeilHappyFool: i wonder if i set something that just looks at the messages03:48
HappyFooltheeil: hmm. have you received any mail?03:48
MrBearonly thing I will miss is my games03:48
HappyFooltheeil: try using 'mail' to send yourself mail -- you should see the file become non-zero in size03:48
theeilHappyFool: i typed fetchmail and it showed some mail on it's way in03:48
twoSharpcan anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..03:49
arturehi, i've just installed, and my serial mouse isn't working. Any ideas how to find the error? gpm has already been set up new, but i'm not sure if I've done it right.03:49
HappyFooltheeil: hmm03:49
theeilHappyFool: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 103:49
HappyFooltheeil: ah-ha03:49
MrBearI just hope my hardware is supported03:49
HappyFooltheeil: have you setup postfix?03:49
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theeilHappyFool: no, do i need that, how do i do that?03:49
MrBearI have a razer diamondback and a zboard03:50
HappyFooltheeil: i think there's quite a neat wiki page for this.. just a sec03:50
Tonarjust setup postfix *lol*03:50
GnonthgolMrBear: if the install/live cd works fine the hardware is suported03:50
MrBearmy AIW should work fine right?03:50
HappyFooltheeil: i based my setup on this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupEmailHowto03:51
HappyFooltheeil: look at section 3 (on postfix)03:51
dalamar!nvidia03:51
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:51
lJlolelyea, i moved to postfix03:51
HappyFoolTonar: better than 'just setup sendmail'03:51
HappyFooltheeil: that page is a bit outdated, but should get you started03:52
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theeilHappyFool: hmn, to be removed: ssmtp03:54
MrBeardarn I wont be able to use my tv tuner03:54
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mxpxpodis there a reason why in breezy I wouldn't have /dev/inotify?03:54
HappyFooltheeil: what's that?03:55
theeilHappyFool: postfix was not installed03:55
HappyFooltheeil: oh?03:55
HappyFooltheeil: i thought it was installed by default. are you running hoary?03:55
MrBearso what is linux like anyway03:55
theeilHappyFool: yes03:56
KyralAnything you want it to be03:56
theeilHappyFool: ssmtp must have uninstalled03:56
MrBearI feel like I am in the Matrix03:56
KyralNo thats Windows :P03:56
MrBearlol03:56
arturewhat should the sample rate for a mouse be?03:56
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HappyFooltheeil: postfix is a dependent of ubuntu-base, so it *should* have been installed03:57
theeilHappyFool:  SMTP Relay host: smtp.messagingengine.com, what's this server?03:57
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HappyFooltheeil: presumably your isp's smtp server03:57
seliniumHi all, anyone here used to compiling from source?03:57
MrBearyes 2 minutes done03:57
zblachis there any way to auto-detect network printers?03:58
seliniumMr Bear: was that aimed at me?03:58
Kyralselinium, I know it03:58
SuperIDI want to run a script at startup.  Do I just need to add a shell script that runs in /etc/rc5.d ?   There's nothing magical about those scripts are there?  that is, do they have to interface with the caller?03:58
HappyFoolbbiab03:58
Kyral./configure && make && sudo make install :D03:58
MrBearoh I am downloading it now03:59
MrBeargetting 339kb/s on cable which is good04:00
seliniumKyral: Yes I 'know' how to do it, just every package apart from the first one I did seems to be problematic. I tried to compile gdam from source. And it couldn't then the next on, then the next one. Is this common?04:00
MrBearanother reason I am getting this is cause I got a copy of XP and it might go AWOL anytime soon04:00
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Kyralselinium, welcome to dependacy hell :D04:01
narimancan someone help me update my gaim to the latest version????04:01
narimanhello???04:02
narimanis some one alive?04:02
MrBearI am04:02
seliniumKyral: lol, Even after completing all the deps, I still had errors... Also one package asked for a dependant not found on the repos, is that normal?04:02
narimanwell, can u help me?04:02
KyralIIRC, GAIM 1.5.0 is only in Breezy04:02
MrBeari think I am anyway04:02
MrBearno I am new like you04:02
narimanhaha :)04:02
Kyraland it doesn't look like a Backport is going to come soon04:02
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KyralIIRC, jdong said something about the Backport being "difficult"04:03
MrBearI am glad I got some blank cds left04:03
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theeilHappyFool: ok, local mail works now04:03
Kyralselinium, sometimes :D04:04
MrBearcool there is a Kubuntu04:04
robert-in-aui hade problems with it though i would just apt-get kde04:05
robert-in-au*had04:05
MrBearwhat is the dif between gnome and kde04:05
Kyralstyle, and a holy war04:05
narimanhehe :)04:05
robert-in-auill find some screen-shots04:05
narimanyeah04:06
KyralBasically, don't bring up KDE vs. GNOME here :P04:06
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narimanlong live KDE!!!04:06
MrBearI see04:06
narimanNO I MEAN GNOME!!!:D04:06
apokryphosMrBear: different DEs :)04:06
pirastIs bugzilla for feature request too?04:06
KyralGNOME > ALL04:06
apokryphosMrBear: kde uses the Qt-toolkit and its base is C++; GNOME uses GTK04:06
seliniumGNOME > kde04:06
MrBearkde looks like more like windows so I will use gnome04:07
apokryphosAlright now, let's not make useless comments of "which one is better".04:07
seliniumMrBear: As good a reaqson as any!04:07
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apokryphosMrBear: of course it depends on how you customize it04:07
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theeilselinium: cuz there is no real point to either one04:07
MrBearI play WoW so just the name Gnome sounds good04:07
seliniumlol04:07
robert-in-aukde : http://www.kde.org/screenshots/04:08
cheesiehi can someone help me, im downloading java for ubuntu linux, should i get the linux rpm or normal one?04:08
apokryphos!screenshots04:08
ubotuFor Screenshots see http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2 and http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=304:08
apokryphosthere's ubuntu screenshots there of both04:08
robert-in-augnome : http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/screenshots/04:08
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Kyralubotu tell cheesie about java04:08
MrBearafter those screenshots Gnome it is04:08
pirastubotu tell cheesie about java04:08
seliniumwhat is a decent gnome menu app?04:08
pirastdamn04:08
Kyral"menu app"?04:08
apokryphosMrBear: errr, you looked through them both already?04:09
theeilhow about xfce4, fluxbox and the 100s of others04:09
apokryphosselinium: smeg04:09
robert-in-aufor java there is a .deb repository find it at breakmyubuntu04:09
MrBearyes04:09
candlelightcheesie, search for java in ubuntu wiki, i just installed a jdk 1.5 update 404:09
apokryphosyes, I doubt that somehow.04:09
seliniumapokryphos: I assume that is an app not a curse! :)04:09
robert-in-aufluxbox is cool too04:09
KyralOh, before you ask, you CAN mix KDE and GNOME apps :P04:09
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MrBearthose require a brain which I dont have04:09
icewtwhat's the situation with backports? it hasn't been updated for a while, has it?04:09
apokryphosselinium: I don't know; people here speak of it like its God's gift to the Open Source world04:10
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seliniumapokryphos: lol I will check it out, thanks04:10
apokryphosThose GNOME screenshots are using different themes etc, not the defaults :/04:10
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apokryphosselinium: pretty darn odd, considering, *it's just a menu editor*04:11
dodderAnyone mind helping me fixing the connection between php-apache2 to mysql on my ubuntu system. ?04:11
twoSharpcan anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..04:11
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dodderit just seems i need the mysql.so file... i just don't know where to get it, where to put it, or where to load it... i might be wrong..04:12
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seliniumapokryphos: I rarely use the menus myself, but the girlfriend on the other hand...04:12
HappyFooltwoSharp: install linux-headers-38604:12
dalamarI installed the nvidia drivers according to the wiki and though I get the splashscreen and everything I only get 250 fps on average, I only have a 32 meg card but still this is wierd and trying to install cedega it says no 3d acceleration supported, anyone know whats up?04:12
apokryphostheeil: what, and use no non-gnome apps?04:12
HappyFooldalamar: does 'glxinfo |grep direct' give 'Yes' ?04:13
theeilapokryphos: no, i mean that i do use many of the built in things though04:13
dodderanyone?04:13
dalamarHappyFool, checking one sec04:13
HappyFooldodder: have you looked at the lamp page on the wiki?04:13
candlelightdalamar, just curious how to check the # of fps?04:13
HappyFool!lamp04:13
ubotulamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:13
dalamarcandlelight, run glxgears in a terminal04:14
dalamarHappyFool, it says 'yes'?04:14
dodderwell can't i just use the programs already pre-installed with the basic installation ?04:14
HappyFooldalamar: hmm. sounds like you have opengl rendering to me04:15
HappyFooldalamar: i get 845 fps from glxgears (but i guess above a certain point that becomes meaningless?)04:16
HappyFooldodder: mysql is not included in the default install, i don't think04:16
HappyFooldodder: nor is apache204:16
dalamarHappyFool, yeah, it says 'okay' on the cedega install anout open gl rendering, yet 'failed' on 3d acceleration? .. it is only a 32 meg card also04:16
HappyFooldalamar: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure. never used cedega04:16
HappyFooldalamar: tried #cedega ?04:17
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grillhello everyone04:17
dodderHappyFool yes mysql and apache2 is included, and i it is installed.. i removed the ; from the php.ini file where im loading the mysql.so file... but that doesn't change anything...04:17
dalamarHappyFool, trying there as we speak, though its not very active ;/04:18
wickedpuppyhi guys ... seems like i got some gpg key errors for breezy when i do apt-get update04:18
theeilwhat's the gnome panel mail thing called?04:18
HappyFooldodder: please read the LAMP page on the wiki; it will probably help you more than i can04:18
wickedpuppywhere can i find the keys ?04:18
candlelightdalamar, mine is 32mb card, on 1st run, 285~376 fps, 2nd run 210~375 fps, 3rd run all over 320 fps04:18
dodderHappyFool but that is what it says... to remove that line, and then just restart apache...04:18
dodderHappyFool, just tried that again... still nothing... :/04:18
HappyFooldodder: what isn't working?04:19
MrBearwill I be able to use yahoo aim and msn on ubuntu04:19
Kamping_Kaiseryes04:19
wickedpuppyMrBear, one word ... GAIM!04:19
dodderHappyFool when trying to run phpmyadmin i just get this error: cannot load mysql extension;04:19
Myrttiwickedpuppy: bitlbee04:19
MrBearalright04:19
HappyFooldodder: phpmyadmin is a command-line tool?04:20
Myrttino04:20
Myrttibrowser04:20
wickedpuppynope .. its a web based mysql administration04:20
Myrttiit's a webpage, basically04:20
MrBearright now I am afraid the install will not work04:20
dodderHappyFool, no it's not, it's a collection of php scripts, making it easy to edit your mysql tabels, and stuff :)04:20
wickedpuppydodder, have you installed mysql extension for apache2 ?04:20
sakamoto_any drivers for my onboard vga04:20
sakamoto_?04:20
dodderwickedpuppy, mom.04:21
sakamoto_its msi k8m-neov04:21
dodderwickedpuppy, i instaleld libapache2-mod-auth-mysql yep.04:21
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zblachhi04:22
sakamoto_hi04:22
cheesieubotu tell cheesie about java04:22
zblachcan anyone help me with this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 204:22
zblachcheesie, just go !java04:22
dodderwickedpuppy, i've been looking for a php-mysql lib, but it's not default on the synaptic.04:23
binaxmms04:23
binasorry :) wrong box04:23
Gnonthgolcheesie: "/msg ubotu java"04:23
cheesieits k that worked04:24
wickedpuppydodder, you got libapache2-mod-php4 ?04:24
MrBearbbl04:24
dodderwickedpuppy, yep already been installed.04:25
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wickedpuppythen your phpmyadmin should work04:25
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dodderwickedpuppy, that what i said to myself, too :)04:25
wickedpuppylol04:25
dodderheh04:26
zblachnvm, solved my error04:26
dodderwickedpuppy, may i pm you, with an url ?04:26
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Paradoxxmorning all04:27
Paradoxxcan some1 help me with a prob04:27
GnonthgolParadoxx: only if you tell us what the problem is04:28
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sakamoto_ok ... any linux drivers for my onboard vga04:29
sakamoto_?04:29
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nano-Ubuntu recognizes 'SAMSUNG ' 'DVD-ROM SD-616T ' as a CDROM while it infact is a CDRW.04:29
sakamoto_the mobi is MSI K8M Neo-V04:29
sakamoto_thats with VIA chipset04:29
NoHopehello all04:30
sakamoto_hi04:30
Gnonthgolhi04:30
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sakamoto_omg ubuntu is way better than i thought04:30
Aerolhello04:31
Paradoxxwhat is the command to change the ownership for all the files in a folder, so i can read em etc?04:31
sakamoto_are all distros that nice to work with?04:31
sakamoto_you have to be root04:31
twibblerParadox: chown <owner> <filename>04:31
GnonthgolParadoxx: chmod04:31
DJWillisParadoxx: chmod04:31
DJWillisDoh! ;-)04:32
HappyFoolParadoxx: which folder are you wanting to fiddle with?04:32
Paradoxxthere are several files in the folder04:32
thrush_2Paradoxx, chmod -R04:32
Aerolsby. pls, give me a list of working repos, or a sources.list, "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories", doesnt works anymore04:32
Paradoxxa folder i copied from a NTFS partition04:32
HappyFoolto change ownership, use chown, to change permissions use chmod04:32
twibblerParadox: chmod changes permissions ... chown changes owner and chgrp changes group ...04:32
HappyFool!teel Aerol about repos04:32
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, HappyFool04:32
Paradoxxwhats the diff?04:32
HappyFool!tell Aerol about repos04:32
twibblerParadoxx: a lot ......04:33
NoHopehey, how update an specific app?04:33
GnonthgolParadoxx: linux just got read drivers for ntfs04:33
Aerolgreat04:33
HappyFool'just got' ? ;)04:33
ParadoxxGnonthgol: i kno, i copied the files from a NTFS partition, to my ext3 partition, so i would work with em etc..04:33
DJWillisQuestion, where can I find a torrent for the latest packaged build of Breazey? Want to see if some packages have made it into Breazy there are absent/broke in horty.04:33
twibblerParadoxx: what are you trying to access ...?...04:33
Paradoxxi copied my  "My Documents" folder from my W$ partition04:34
Paradoxxcan't do anything with it though04:34
HappyFoolNoHope: you can use synaptic to keep all installed applications up to date (within hoary)04:34
twibblerI see ... ok you want to access the files ...04:34
GnonthgolParadoxx: the best thing if you are using windows and linux together is to use fat3204:34
NoHopeHappyFool, is it necessary some special configuration?04:34
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HappyFoolNoHope: you need to add the network repositories04:34
HappyFool!tell NoHope about repos04:35
Paradoxxright now, the owner of the folders is root04:35
Paradoxxso i want to b able to access them from my normal user04:35
theeilParadoxx: sudo chown Paradoxx My*Documents04:36
HappyFoolParadoxx: something like 'sudo chown -R paradox thefolder/' may be what you want. But you should only change things in your home directory (/home/paradox, or whatever it may be)04:36
cheesie!sources04:36
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:36
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Paradoxxyep04:36
twibblerParadox:: login into terminal as root .... and do the following commands.. or as HappyFool says ...04:36
twibblerParadoxx: after doing the chown also do the chgrp -R userid direc04:37
grillwhere can i find a list of web cams that work in ubuntu?04:37
Paradoxxkk04:39
Paradoxxthx guys, those things worked like a charm04:39
Paradoxx:D04:39
NoHopehey, do you know if firefox 1.5 beta will be available in some repos?04:39
Paradoxxi gotta go eat breakfast..04:39
Paradoxxtalk to youall later04:39
cheesieSomeone help me04:39
cheesiehow do i edit the sources.list file04:39
cheesiesudo gedit?04:40
twibblerat 3.40pm.....04:40
HappyFoolcheesie: maybe 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'04:40
NoHopecheesie, became root and [pico sources.list] 04:40
cheesiekk happy04:40
NoHopecheesie, or use vim, gvim, gedit...04:40
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Gnonthgolcheesie: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:40
NoHopes/became/become04:40
cheesiethanks ppl04:40
NoHope(my bad english...)04:41
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cheesiehow do i make it get it from network instead of the cd?04:41
cheesiecomment out the top line?04:41
twibblercheesie: can do all this from synaptic ...04:41
cheesiehow04:41
cheesie!java04:42
ubotuhmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:42
grillcheesie, in settings i think it was04:42
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twibblerchessie: settings ... repositories ... allows you to add and remove ... save having to do it all manually ...04:43
cheesieive addd the respository hoary hedegot04:43
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cheesiebut still cant fine sun -j204:43
cheesiefor java04:43
dalamarthe wiki works if you have all the repos installed, just did it last night04:43
NoHopehey, when will gnome 2.12 be released?04:43
NoHopesep 7?04:44
twibblerchessie: sorry have to go with the wiki ubotu said ... dont use java .... (prefer perl)...04:44
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DJWillisDoes anybody know if the MADWiFi package in Brezzey is more recent then the ancient one in Horty?04:45
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apokryphosDJWillis: you can find out easily by yourself -- http://packages.ubuntu.com04:46
spolawhere do i find esdsp?04:46
DJWillisapokryphos: problem is I have no idea what the package is called (it's not madwifi for sure) and it's in the base distro so I have never quiter figured out what deb it came from.04:48
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apokryphosDJWillis: wondering why you called it a package then :P. Nevermind; what exactly does it provide?04:49
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ompaulon thise little box: apt-cache search editor | wc :: result::    489    3953   25880 <-- there is more than one way to edit a file :)04:50
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DJWillisapokryphos: if it's in Ubuntu it's fair to say it came from a DEB (well I would assume as much), it's a WiFi kernal mode driver for one WiFi chipset, ahhh, found it, it's deep inside the linux-restricted-modules package, hmm, now to see what Brezzy has.04:52
DJWillisapokryphos: still, thanks for the link, I had forgot about that site, VERY handy.04:52
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freshminthi. does the ubuntu live cd support ntfs?04:53
disasmfreshmint: read-onlhy04:53
freshmintdieman, thx. that's all i need ;-)04:53
vader1102cafuego, you here or busy?04:55
dalamarsmall xchat question, is there a way to have to channels on your main xchat screen ie like mirc? the cascade or tile or whatever its called?04:56
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DJWillisdalamar: not AFAIK, it's not an MDI app in that sense, you can have many servers in 'tabs' on the top or bottom, I do that and it works very well.04:58
brennerdalamar: #xchat is great!04:58
dalamark thanks for the info04:59
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vader1102ha! got it to auto join lol05:01
Evenfallis there a package with kernel source for ubuntu 5.04? or I have to download "the real kernel source"?05:02
brennervader1102: how'd you do it? :)05:03
lonewolffEvenfall: apt-cache search linux-source05:03
dalamarah ill just detach one window and throw it somewhere else on the desktop, #xchat had the ticket thanks ;)05:03
Evenfallthanx05:03
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brennerdalamar: yeah, they helped me out in the past05:03
vader1102I am using X-Chat and went into ubuntu servers and edit then just typed in the password05:03
vader1102then left the channel and came back and it auto came in lol05:04
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brennervader1102: weird i've got it entered in both nickserv and server05:04
vader1102I did too but for some reason, maybe my laptop it wouldn't work05:04
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MrBearback05:05
MrBearwell I cant install ubuntu05:05
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vader1102I have to take my desktop pc apart today and clean it.... I think my poer supply is so full of dog hair that it has quit working lol05:06
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brennervader1102: your dog sleeps on your computer? :)05:06
doddervader1102, heeeh :) my neightbours cat comes in, from time to time, and it rips my cables out from the computer... really annoying :)05:06
MrBearI think I got a corrupted cd05:07
vader1102brenner, nope lol, but by the looks of the power supply fan she does lol05:07
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ompaulMrBear, does it boot at all, and are you using a mac or PC?05:07
vader1102MrBear, did you download the cd or get it from ubuntu? there was word of a bad batch from them05:07
MrBearwell I installed and it got a error when it was installing the base system05:08
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Suschmanhi05:09
vader1102I downloaded early in the week and it worked great05:09
MrBearwhere you get it05:09
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vader1102one sec and I'll get the URL05:09
Suschmani have a problem installing mplayer-386, its not in the repository. universe directory is enabled ...05:09
MrBearwell one it installed but when it rebooted it didnt start05:09
ompaulMrBear, if it is a PC I suggest that you do a 'server' install when the machine comes up there is an option to type server, after that 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' can be a useful way to start05:09
apokryphosSuschman: it's in Multiverse.05:09
MrBearand now it wont complete the install05:09
fblade1987hey guys can you tell em how esay it is too put kde onto unbutu?05:09
MrBear?05:10
apokryphosfblade1987: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:10
apokryphosfblade1987: one command -- I'd say that was easy. :005:10
Suschmanapokryphos, are there any caveeats enabling multiverse ??05:10
CarlFKvader1102 - if all else fails, or you want a "sure thing" - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto05:10
apokryphosubotu: tell Suschman about repos05:10
ompaulMrBear back about ten lines ..05:10
Suschmanthx apokryphos05:10
MrBearwell I got a 1998 Dell Dimension 810005:11
vader1102http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ this is what I used05:11
ompaulMrBear did you read the info I gave out there?05:11
CarlFKvader1102 - some of my boxes don't boot from CD even though they did 10 min ago, same disk.  SBM will boot it.05:11
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fblade1987and also dose any one know of a good wysiwyg webpage editor, rather like dreamweaver?05:11
vader1102CarlFK, ok thanx book marking now05:11
CarlFKfblade1987 http://www.nvu.com is as close as you are going to get05:12
MrBearyep05:12
MrBearsorry05:12
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ompaulMrBear, do you understand what I have suggested?05:12
apokryphosMuch better to just code it -- it's not hard to learn.05:12
MrBearok vader this is what I downloaded05:12
apokryphoswysiwyg editors generally produce crummy code05:12
MrBearyes I understand ompaul05:12
vader1102ompaul, sorry didn't see that you were helping him, vader1102 hides in closet05:13
MrBearsi there a way to check if my cd is valid05:13
CarlFKMrBear - somewere in the menu is something like 'check media'05:14
CarlFKfblade1987 - nvu isn't visual?05:14
Suschmanapokryphos: sry to ask you again, but is w32codecs no longer avaliable from the repo ?05:15
apokryphosSuschman: it's in hoary-extras now05:16
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MrBearI am lost05:17
Pyfi just installed apache, how would i go about accessing the web server from another computer, not on my network05:17
Suschmanaswell as libdvdcss2 i hope :)05:17
Pyfwhen i try it goes to my routers page05:17
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ompaulSuschman,  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras restricted <<< that has lots of stuff, even some things I can't tell you about :)05:17
SuschmanPyf, you need to open the necessary ports in your router05:17
fblade1987dose anyone know a good gba emulator for linux apart from visualboy advance05:17
theeilfblade1987: what's wrong with that?05:18
PyfSuschman, what ports? 80?05:18
dodderPyf, exactly :)05:18
Suschmanyep. i think you mean "the internet" or something behind your router with "not in my network"05:18
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Suschmango to your router config page and add a route from outside connections to port 80 redirecting to port 80 of your unbuntu system05:19
Pyfahh thanks, port forwarding done and i see the test page :)05:19
MrBearok I am going to try the server thing05:20
CarlFKbtw - my choice for web site stuf: http://www.joomla.org05:20
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ompaulMrBear, good luck with it, when you log in the first time do this on the command line 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'05:21
CarlFK(what used to be mambo)05:21
MrBearok I got it thanks05:21
MrBearwish me luck05:21
vader1102ompaul, that's what I missed on my server @ work lol05:21
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vader1102<----has to go to work to try it tomorrow ;-)05:22
MrBeardont matter if this cd I burned is corrupted?05:22
Suschmanapokryphos: why has this stuff all been outsourced, copyright related things ?05:22
CarlFKMrBear - no.  you can still use it to put your coffe cup on.05:23
apokryphosSuschman: precisely. Hoary-extras is actually illegal05:23
ompaulapokryphos, in a lot of places05:23
Suschmanapokryphos: ;)05:23
PyfI installed apache using apt-get, whereabouts would it have installed it, so what do i modify to get rid of the default test page and put a proper page on?05:23
MrBearwell now what do I do05:24
apokryphosPyf: /var/www/05:24
vader1102hmmmmm getting close to lunch time, need to go and eat.05:24
apokryphosPyf: ...that will be http://localhost05:24
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ompaulvader1102, no it is getting closer to 5pm :)05:24
Suschmantimezones are bogus :)05:25
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vader1102is there a way of making ISO images in Ubuntu?05:25
Suschmanswatch  @time rules *g*05:25
vader1102ompaul, where you are yes but where I am almost 12 noon05:25
thenukevader1102: everything is possible05:25
CarlFKvader1102 - mkisofs and k3b (that doesnt look right)05:25
Suschmanvader1102: for example with mkisofs on the shell05:25
vader1102hmmmmm ok...thanx05:26
CarlFKvader1102 - make iso from files or a CD?05:26
ompaulvader1102, that is there, this is a time zone in your future :)05:26
vader1102cd05:26
CarlFKdoh05:26
robert-in-auburn or make an iso?05:26
vader1102make05:26
CarlFKvader1102 - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso05:26
ompaulMrBear, take a pm?05:26
vader1102k05:27
MrBearyes05:27
CarlFKi think /dev/cdrom is setup by default, right?05:27
vader1102anyhow I need to go and eat be back after lunch05:27
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Ichanzhi05:28
robert-in-auyes /dev/cdrom is the default and /media/cdrom is th mount point05:29
Pyfapokryphos, when i try and drag a file into /var/www/ it wont let me, says i dont have permission05:29
robert-in-authen do it as root05:29
apokryphosno05:29
apokryphosBetter to chmod/chown the directory05:29
Pyfhow do i do that?05:30
robert-in-augo into a terminal and type "sudo nautilus"05:30
apokryphosPyf: sudo chown {username}:{username} /var/www/05:30
theeilPyf: i would change the group that owns the folder to something and chmod 770 the folder05:30
robert-in-aumy way is easier05:30
apokryphosrobert-in-au: no, your way is less practical05:31
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Ichanzrobert-in-au my way is easier <-- keep going mate05:31
apokryphosespecially if you do a lot of editing in your /var/www/, which you will05:31
apokryphosdefeats the whole point of root/sudo if you're constnatly logged in it05:31
Pyfcool, thanks :)05:31
Suschmanthe universe programs have no icon in the programs menu, how do i change these ? configuring the gui was a miracle to me ever since :(05:31
robert-in-auyes if your doing it alot chown is better05:32
_BIJ_hi guys!05:32
SeveasSuschman, with smeg05:32
Ichanzmy floppy doesn't work in ubuntu .... how to make it works05:32
SeveasIchanz, what did you try?05:32
fblade1987im now reeally board whats something good i can get for linux that will enteraine me for a while05:32
Seveasfblade1987, kobo deluxe05:33
Seveaspackage kbodl05:33
IchanzSeveas Ichanz, what did you try? <-- ubuntu does not detect my floppy05:33
Seveaskobodl*05:33
_BIJ_i got a problem using the edge icons with ubuntu 5.04... anyone has experiences with these icons?05:33
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Oetzihi05:33
SeveasIchanz, does it detect the drive?05:33
Seveashi Oetzi05:33
IchanzSeveas Ichanz, does it detect the drive? <- the drive itself is detected by bios ...05:33
SuschmanSeveas: smeg should be installed ? cant find it05:34
apokryphosubotu: tell Suschman about smeg05:34
Oetzii have problems with the ubuntu installer05:34
SeveasIchanz, does /dev/fd0 exist?05:34
Oetziit hangs up on05:34
robert-in-auyou have to apt-get / synaptic it05:34
Suschmanah, thx05:34
Ichanzhang on... i check it05:34
Oetzistartin PC-Card-service05:34
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Oetzican anyone help me05:35
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pixmanhello05:36
apokryphosaloha05:36
IchanzSeveas Ichanz, does /dev/fd0 exist? <-- does not !!!!05:36
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Oetzii have a toshiba Satellite A80-154 and really got enough from this shit fucking Win XP05:37
pixmanOetzi, what's the prob?05:37
Oetzithe installer stops at starting PC-card-service05:37
SuschmanOetzi: i remember some sattelite books have a nonstandart diskdrive controller05:37
Suschmansayed google something about it ?05:37
OetziSuschman: no i have googled about 1 day now05:38
robert-in-auooh you have a toshiba - do you have a problem with the keyboard05:39
Oetzirobert-in-au: no keyboard works fine05:39
robert-in-aueven if you use the touchpad and the kb at the same time05:40
OetziSuschman: I think the pc-card-service is the pcmcia module05:40
Oetzii have tried with bootoption no acpi05:41
Oetzithe installer worked fine then05:41
Suschmantry with expert mode and not loading card services05:41
Suschmanif it works without acpi then its ok or not ?05:42
Oetzibut it didn't find the lan-card05:42
Suschmanmy system here neddet noacpi noapic aswell and its standart nvidia chipset05:42
Suschmanacpi is oh well a bad thing, to complicated standart. hehe, after ten years not one complete compilant implementation avalaibe :D05:43
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Oetziyes I know05:43
SuschmanOetzi, lan card inside notebook or inside pcmcia slot ?05:43
robert-in-audoes anyone know how to get a ati radeon + a nforce2 mobo working in linux05:44
robert-in-au(with hardware acceleration)05:44
Suschmannforce2 should run asap, radeon aswell, just install closed source driver afterwards to get 3d05:44
theeilfetchmail is not doing anything05:44
Suschmanaceleration05:44
Suschmanhave a wiki in german describing that, duno if it helps you05:45
Oetzithe notbook has a integrated gigabit-lan-card and an integrated intel 2200bg WLAN-card05:45
robert-in-authere is an agp-gart (or something) problem05:45
Oetziboth are not found by the installer05:45
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Suschmanthe wlan not found is normal, you can maybe bring it to live later05:45
robert-in-auwell ill try translating it or ill show it to a friend05:45
fblade1987is aMSN any good or is there a better alternative/05:45
robert-in-aulinky please05:45
Suschmanthe gigabit chips is some other thing, it depends on the manuifaturer and if its standalaone or someway chipset intefrated05:46
sigurdgafblade1987: gaim, gossip05:46
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Suschmanrobert-in-au: mean me ?05:46
theeili configured fetchmail ofr my gmail account and it seemed to work but didn't write any files. i noticed that postfix was not installed, so i installed anc configured that and now when i type fetchmail it tells me there is a daemon running05:46
apokryphosfblade1987: kopete is good too05:46
Oetzithe gigabit-aln is a marvel chipset05:46
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kevogodGAIM is fun.05:47
kevogod(love capitalizing it)05:47
SuschmanOetzi: i remember seeing marvel supported05:49
reikitheeil: if it's telling you a daemon is running, first look in your home folder and see if there's a .fetchmailrc file (it's hidden... so Show hidden files)05:49
theeilfblade1987: go with gaim, but IMHO it needs configuration05:49
Oetziso I'll goe offline know and try it with the old wlan-netgear pcmcia card which worked fine in the old notebook05:49
theeilreiki: that's how i configured it05:49
Oetzithx for your help05:50
reikitheeil: well if a daemon is running then you can't just fetchmail whenever you want. It'll just say that teh daemon is awakened05:50
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MrBearbrb05:51
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MAPDhi05:52
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Gnonthgolhi05:52
cheesie!limewire05:52
ubotusomebody said limewire was at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire05:52
jeanjeanCan someone help with Intel HD sound card ?05:52
cheesiemaybe05:52
MAPDi wanted to delete ubuntu but couldnt do fdisk /mbr since windows cd couldnt boot i removed all partitions then and the windows one too wont it harm the disk ? And then i installed windows05:52
MAPDhelp05:52
cheesiemaybe not05:52
jeanjeanI did this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto05:52
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jeanjeanand unmuted everthing but still no sound05:53
djurwhat would I put under options in my fstab file for an NTFS volume?05:53
GnonthgolMAPD: the mbr is always required, just reinstall winsows mbr05:54
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theeilhow do i configure (whatever) so that i can send mail with "mail someone@somethingnotlocal"05:54
MAPDGnonthgol i think you didnt understand05:54
MAPDmay i msg you pls?05:54
bur[n] erMAPD: is it windows xp?05:54
MAPDyes05:55
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MAPDq Gnonthgol05:55
bur[n] erMAPD: and your windowx sp cd won't boot?05:55
MAPDyes05:55
Maikerueww Windows05:55
MAPDill explain what i did05:55
bur[n] erMAPD: no way to get it back if windows cd won't boot... you could reinstall grub from an ubuntu cd to get to windows05:55
MAPDfirst i couldnt find a program to replace my dvd authoring thing05:55
bur[n] erif windows cd will boot, run 'fixboot' 'fixmbr'05:56
MAPDsecond i wanted to get back to windows05:56
MAPDi could get into windows and linux05:56
MAPDgrub was working05:56
MAPDthe windows wasnt booting so i wanted to remove grub i couldnt find a way and i got a tools cd and used partition magic to remove win and linux partitions05:57
MAPDdid i do wrong?05:57
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djurI'm trying to add this drive to fstab so I can mount it...   /dev/hda2             754         790      297202+   5  Extended05:57
djurany ideas?05:57
djurah you know what.. that's the wrong drive05:57
Maikerulol05:58
Maikeru:)05:58
MAPDbur[n] er what do you think?05:58
bur[n] erMAPD: you removed all partitions?05:58
bur[n] eryou did wrong05:58
MAPDwhy?05:58
bur[n] eryou removed all your data05:58
MAPDyes05:58
MAPDi dont care05:58
MAPDi already saved05:58
MAPDwhat i needed05:58
MaikeruThe lesson is05:59
Maikerunever use Windows05:59
MaikeruIt makes everything complicated.05:59
MAPDMaikeru the problem is05:59
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MAPDi cant find the program to make it good05:59
MAPD:P05:59
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MaikeruTo make what good?05:59
MAPDif i could find some programs05:59
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MAPDi wouldnt care for windows05:59
MrBearwell i guess no ubuntu for me05:59
MaikeruYou can't find a program to make -Ubuntu- good?05:59
Maikeru0-o05:59
robert-in-authere is a boot disk that just reformats stuff when you boot it05:59
MAPDMaikeru06:00
MAPDi explained wrong06:00
MAPD:\06:00
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MrBearit wont install06:00
bur[n] erMAPD: you need some program in linux that doesn't exist yet06:00
bur[n] ercorrect?06:00
MAPDmy question is i didnt remove grub properly with fixboot and thigs like that06:00
Maikerurobert-in-au, Darol06:00
djurokay.. here is a more general question..06:00
Maikerurobert-in-au, Darik's boot and nuke?06:00
djurhow do you access data on NTFS systems from ubuntu?06:00
bur[n] erMAPD: so?06:00
bur[n] erdjur: you can only read... unless you use the captive ntfs driver06:00
djurNTFS partitions I should say.06:00
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kspathI wiped out WinXP and MacOSX for Ubuntu and Debian linux  it can do everything for my family and work06:01
Maikerudjur: You can mount the NTFS drive via mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mnt06:01
Maikerubut it's readonly06:01
CarlFKMaikeru - I don't think you need the -t ntfs06:01
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djurI downloaded some NTFS utilities through synaptic06:01
robert-in-authere is a way to add write support06:01
MaikeruCarlFK, meh, I do it neway06:01
king_sizehello06:01
MAPDbur[n] er pls msg me06:02
king_sizedoes anybody has avidemux installed06:02
MAPDpls help06:03
MAPD:P06:03
CarlFKrobert-in-au - http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive06:03
djurthat drive is showing up as /dev/sda06:04
MrBear:(06:04
djurand I can't seem to mount it06:04
kwonchaMAPD: if you simply want to remove grub on your mbr you can just boot msdos and fdisk /mbr did you?06:04
CarlFKrobert-in-au - but I am not sure if there is a "slick ubuntu way" to use captive06:04
MAPDkwoncha i couldnt do that06:04
robert-in-auwell when i was building my kernel in gentoo i saw an option for it - but it was still experimental06:05
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MrBearanybody give me a good download spot I keep getting corrupted cd06:06
CarlFKrobert-in-au - there are 2 ways: the pure way (all opensource code) or the cheat (uses drivers from MS)06:06
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robert-in-aui see06:07
CarlFKMrBear - can you get the iso on a linux box?06:07
CarlFKMrBear - never mind that06:07
robert-in-aubtw i never did get the gentoo install to work06:07
CarlFKMrBear - what OS is the .iso on now?06:07
CarlFKrobert-in-au - Generally Too much hassle....06:07
robert-in-auyea06:08
MrBearxp06:08
MrBearI only have one box with XP on it06:08
robert-in-auWindow XP - Winblows Xtera Poopy06:08
CarlFKMrBear - http://www.md5summer.org - check the md5sum of the iso06:08
MrBearI keep trying to get the torrent but I keep getting a connection refused06:08
kwoncha#join wxpython06:08
MrBearhow do I do that06:09
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CarlFKMrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?06:09
MrBearunited states link on the site06:10
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CarlFKMrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?  (something I can click on)06:10
ZotnixOkay, I know Breezy isn't supported but I'm insane and upgraded. I got usplash to work and whatnot... anyway to get inotify to work for beagle?06:10
ZotnixI tried modprobe inotify but... nothing.06:10
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MrBearhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso06:11
chopehi, does anyone know how to place subtitles in the black borders when playing a widescreen movie fullscreen on mplayer?06:11
CarlFKMrBear - good.  look at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS06:11
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jeanjeancan anyone help with my sound plz06:12
MrBearI just see a bunch of letters06:12
CarlFKMrBear - http://www.md5summer.org <-- use that to get the md5sum of what you have.  it should be f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840  ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso06:12
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jeanjeanxmms looks like hes playing but still no sound06:12
CarlFKif the 2 match, then your file is good.  if they don't, it is bad.06:13
Suschmani try now the dvb reciever, thx guys06:14
chopejeanjean: are you sure you are using the right output plugin?06:14
pirastHi, I use gaim. I want gaim to be invisible when I start it and I want to have a list where I can put users  who can see me if I am online. Is it possible? How?06:14
Suschmancu06:14
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jeanjeanchope, just installed new alsa06:15
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dodderis it possible to add programs to the gnome menu ?06:15
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Maikeruyes06:15
Maikeruapt-get install smeg06:15
dodderhuh ?06:16
MaikeruThen go to Applications > System Tools > Smeg Menu Editor06:16
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dodderokey, thanks :)06:16
MAPDhow to install nrg2iso?06:17
chopejeanjean: if you are getting output with other programs using asla i dont know what it could be06:17
lakcajWhy does ubuntu get rid of the alsaconf utility from alsa-utils?06:17
kwonchaDoes anybody know how can disable antialiasing in macromedia flash player by default?06:17
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zblachhi06:18
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djurfor mount is       "/" equivalent to C:  in NTFS?06:18
lakcajMAPD, how do you install other software?06:18
MAPDlakcaj the guy is asking me06:18
zblachquick question. how to mount an ipod?06:18
MAPDLOL06:18
spiralhi06:18
dalamar!ipod06:19
ubotuhmm... ipod is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto06:19
zblacheheh.. thanks06:19
lakcajMAPD, ok :)06:19
zblachhow 'bout a media keyboard?06:19
MAPDlakcaj i dont even know the file format06:20
MAPD:\06:20
MrBearhow do you use the md5 program06:20
lakcajSo nobody really seems to know why alsaconf is missing?06:20
djurwhat do you pick for a mount point on an NTFS drive?06:20
lakcajMrBear, md5sum /path/to/file06:20
djurI tried "/" but that's where my linux partition is mounted..  so I'm not sure it likes that..06:21
lakcajdjur, make it whatever you want.  Create  a /windows for example06:21
MAPDmy friend lost his knoppix06:21
MAPDroot password06:21
MAPDwhat should he do?06:21
djurso / substitutes for C:/  ?06:21
MAPDsorry asking here06:22
dalamarreinstall ;)06:22
lakcajdjur, no06:22
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MrBearman this is too complete06:22
MAPDbut i needed something from him06:22
MAPD:\06:22
djuror is it essentially /dev/sda = C: (they are different ways of saying the same thing?)06:22
lakcajdjur, if you are trying to mount an NTFS partition while in linux, create a /windows directory, and mount it there.06:22
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djurokay06:22
lakcajdjur, / is the root partition of all your linux files.  You can't mount something else over that and expect your system to still work.06:23
MrBearcomplicated*06:23
lakcajMrBear, what is complicated?  What are you trying to do?06:23
MrBearI just want a working cd06:23
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djurhm...06:25
lakcajMrBear, check that the iso you downloaded has the proper md5sum by issuing       md5sum /path/to/downloaded.iso06:26
djurso I created the directory.. but it says the drive is mounted at /  which... is.. as you say.. bad.06:26
MrBeargot to redownload it06:26
Nalioth_zZzMrBear: what image are you wanting to get?06:27
lakcajdjur, you are in your ubuntu system right now?  If you have something besides your ubuntu partition mounted at / then yes, that is bad :)06:27
zblach!keyboard06:28
ubotuzblach: Do they come in packets of five?06:28
MrBearx8606:28
zblach!media keyboard06:28
ubotuI haven't a clue, zblach06:28
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Nalioth_zZzMrBear: a daily image or a regular hoary image?06:28
djurit won't let me unmount it because it is busy..06:28
stperehey there06:28
zblachhey06:28
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MrBearomg06:28
stpereis there an "official" ubuntu package for listening to podcasts? (suscribing, syncing)06:29
NaliothMrBear: depending on what you are after, you may not have to d/l it all again06:29
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MrBearI just want a simple desktop on this computer06:29
djurwhen the system loads it mounts everything from the fstab file, right?06:30
NaliothMrBear: what iso are you after?06:30
lakcajdjur, I think you may need to reboot.06:30
djurso if I have every entered correctly in the fstab file, if I reboot it will remount the drive at /windows06:30
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djurreboot and hope it reboots, right?06:30
MrBearone that works on this computer06:31
NaliothMrBear: if your md5sums mismatch, find the .torrent to match the image you d/l06:31
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NaliothMrBear: it will correct/add/whatever to complete it (w/o you having to d/l the whole thing agaain)06:32
MrBearI have to redownload it anyway06:32
MrBearcause ubuntu wiped my drive06:32
NaliothMrBear: ah06:33
djurwhen entering startup programs into "sessions" do you have to put a . before the files to make it execute?06:34
djurlike ./usr/bin/BLAH06:34
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djuror would /usr/bin/BLAH work?06:34
MAPDis there a symbian emulator?06:35
Naliothdjur, no dot needed06:35
Naliothdjur: with a direct expression06:35
zblachhow to use keyboard media buttons with xmms?06:35
djurthanks06:35
disasmdjur: a dot says execute in this current directory, so unless your executing /usr/bin/BLAH from / ./user/bin/BLAH wouldn't work06:36
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spolaexcept in a bash scipt when there's a space between the dot and the path then the dot simple means "source this"06:38
disasmzblach: try a program called lineak06:38
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disasmzblach: sudo apt-get install lineakd06:40
zblachlemme look for it06:40
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k1234Hello06:41
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zblacheasy to integrate with xmms?06:42
zblachsound +/- already works06:42
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disasmzblach: supposed to be06:43
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bobertI'm using the default firefox that comes with ubuntu, and I'm having an issuew ith it. I try to do a context menu > properties on an image, and the properties window comes up and says I have an XML Parsing error along with an error and it's location06:44
MAPDbyebye06:45
MAPDgtg06:45
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lakcajbobert, did you upgrade firefox while it was still running?  Try shutting down firefox and starting it back up.06:47
Gnonthgolbobert: What image? Have you tryed an image on another server??06:47
bobertlakcaj, that's a good idea. I DID just run updates, but I didn't check to see if firefox was in there06:47
lakcajXML Parsing errors occur (among other times I'm sure) when you upgrade firefox while you are still using it.06:47
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bobertaha!06:48
bobertit worked, thank you lakcaj06:48
lakcajnp06:48
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MrBearI guess I will have to stick to XP06:50
flodineguys im tring to install breezy can i put the bootloader on a diffrent drive?06:55
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ce33naflodine: I'm not a bootloader pro, but is there an option to not install the bootloader?06:56
FatDarrelsure06:56
flodineyes06:56
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ce33nayou could just edit your present bootloader to recognize the new install06:56
ce33naI've done such things in the past, but I couldn't guide you through it though. Sorry06:57
FatDarrelAmong the new enhancements to the Linux kernel is "Kexec," which allows for a fast reboot without the need to go through a bootloader.06:57
ce33nabtw...is there a release date set for breezy....or will it just be ready when it is ready?06:58
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c0rrupt_how can i chown a file to be public06:58
flodinei just dont understand why breezy wont boot after the install is complete06:58
dalamaroct 13th06:58
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ce33naflodine: you have to be more specific06:59
fevelcan anyone help me put subtitles on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt06:59
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c0rrupt_like.. have no owner07:00
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h17m4nok so I got the UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz07:02
h17m4nhow do I install it?07:02
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seifehi, i have two differents OS one in each HD, how can i do to join in ubuntu, or windows,  is there any prog that tells me where to join07:02
seife(my english sucks) btw.07:02
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h17m4nboot manager?07:03
h17m4nubuntu comes with GRUB07:03
h17m4nwhen you install ubuntu it asks you to let it install it07:03
Naliothback to the nap07:04
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h17m4nwhen you do, everytime the computer starts it will give you many options to choose from07:04
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seifereally?07:06
h17m4nsi07:07
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fevelcan anyone help me subtitle on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt07:07
fevelplease07:07
vegalabshi, has anyone gotten wireless working under hoary for the thinkpad t41p (intel wireless/pro 2100). most say it works out of the box. doesn't seem to be the case here.07:08
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Whistlerhow do i play avi files?07:09
FatDarrelWhistler, use xine and mplayer or totem07:09
dalamarbelieve in magic07:10
fanopnaicor vlc.07:10
fevelcheck the wiki Whistler07:10
WhistlerTotem-xine gives me an There is no plugin to handle this movie.07:10
Whistleri installed it using sudo aprt-get install totem-xine07:10
FatDarrelWhistler, you don't have the codec, you may need to download the divx and xvid codecs etc07:10
dalamar!codecs07:10
ubotu[codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:10
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Whistlerk07:11
Whistlerthx07:11
FatDarrelWhistler, do an apt-cache search xvid and apt-cache search codecs07:11
h17m4nI got wireless working07:11
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h17m4nbut it was Broadcom07:11
fevelWhistler, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver07:11
h17m4nit was kinda hard07:11
FatDarrelh17m4n, ufff07:11
FatDarrelh17m4n, as if it should easy >sigh<07:11
h17m4nwell, from what I heard it's harder than installing the intel one07:12
h17m4ndid you try ndiswrapper?07:12
vegalabsh17m4n: no i haven't.07:12
Paradoxxwhich one you guys prefer, totem, or mplayeR?07:13
h17m4nlet me get you the howto I used07:13
h17m4nh/o07:13
dalamarxine!07:13
vegalabsk. i'm getting ndis.07:14
Paradoxxdalamar: y do you say that?07:14
vegalabsParadoxx: most definitely mplayer.07:14
Paradoxxi'm useing totem atm, and the functionality etc, just feels so limited07:14
MrBearsorry guys but I guess I will go07:14
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__filip_i have install apache, where should i put my html file?07:15
h17m4nThis walkthrough is good: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568307:15
vegalabsh17m4n: thanks07:15
Paradoxxso, mplayer or xine?07:15
Paradoxxi guess its down  to that07:15
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vegalabsParadoxx: why don't you try them and see which you prefer?07:16
h17m4nvega wait07:16
h17m4nthis one is easier: http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~aruljohn/debian/07:16
h17m4ngo down to wireless and ndiswrapper07:16
!lilo:*! If you're experiencing problems with private message spambots, please message me. Thanks!07:17
h17m4nmake sure you have the .sys and .inf for your card07:17
Maikeruheh07:17
Maikeruany idea on the DWL-650 Revision P?07:17
MaikeruCan't get ndis to work with it07:17
MaikeruBloody annoying07:17
vegalabsok. the odd thing is that linux does see the card. it reports signal strength, retreives an ip address, but, doesn't actually connect.07:17
h17m4nohh07:18
vegalabswell07:18
zblachyou using wep encryption?07:18
h17m4nso dont follow that07:18
MaikeruWell, with my ubuntu it like doesn't recognize the card has been put in ;/07:18
vegalabsduring the install it can't dhcp. maybe wep has something to do with it.07:18
h17m4nyou probably need to input your wep key07:18
zblachand set mode to open, if appliccable07:18
MaikeruThe card gets power sent to it (the activity light lights up), but I don't think it knows that a card is in there ;/07:18
vegalabsyeah, i have provided the ssid and wep keys. no dice.07:18
Paradoxxvegalabs: guess so..07:18
Maikeru(Oh, and sorry to jump in on someone else's problem)07:18
zblachSystem -> Admin -> Networking07:18
zblachtry configuring through there07:19
Paradoxxhow can i check if i installed the nvidia graphics acceleration stuff07:19
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zblachparadoxx, glxgears should give you a very high number07:19
h17m4nI dun.... run glxgears07:19
Whistlerhow do i launch py program?07:19
h17m4nif you get over 1k it's ok07:19
lakcajglxinfo | grep -i nvidia07:19
lakcajParadoxx, ^^^07:20
Paradoxxkk07:20
Paradoxxwell, i just ran it awhile ago07:20
Paradoxxdo i just leave it, or what?07:20
Paradoxxi see the gears spinning07:20
zblachlook in the console, see some FPS numbers/07:20
h17m4nit outputs the number on the terminal window07:20
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zdennisIn Evolution, is there a way to collapse all threads?07:21
h17m4nit posts the FPS every 5 secs on that window07:21
Whistlerhow do i launch py program?07:21
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lakcajWhat is the full path to the python program?07:21
SwenI'm trying to install ubuntu and on reboot I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!07:22
lakcajand program name?07:22
Paradoxxi don't see any fps07:22
zblachParadoxx, in the console07:22
lakcajParadoxx, forget glxgears, just close it and run the command I showed you.07:22
zblachcan one auto-detect networked printers?07:22
vegalabszblach: yep, tried that. ifconfig shows an ipaddress. by default,the check box "this device is configured" is not checked. so i checked it. added ssid and key, plus dhcp seems to work.07:22
zdennisSwen, what is the error before that? Cannot mount root filesystem07:22
zdennis?07:22
h17m4ndont just run the command from Applications > Run Application07:22
Swenthe first error is pivot_root: No such file or directory07:22
zblachvegalabs, go to a console, iwconfig wlan007:22
h17m4nClick Applications>System Tools>Terminal07:23
Paradoxxserver glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation07:23
Paradoxxclient glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation07:23
ParadoxxOpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation07:23
ParadoxxOpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.7407:23
zblach...careful about pasting07:23
Swenthen...07:23
lakcajParadoxx, there you go, you're using nvidia07:23
Paradoxxkk07:23
Swensbin/init:428 : cannot open /dev/console: No such file07:23
Paradoxxlakcaj you had recommended S5 to me yesterday?07:24
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lakcajParadoxx, could have been.  I used S5 for a presentation I was working on.07:24
vegalabszblach: iwconfig eth1 works. would you like me to message you the output?07:24
Whistlergrrr. i installed everything in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs and07:24
zeus1_hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?07:24
zdennisSwen, is ther anything special about your system? 64-bit ?07:24
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Swenany ideas? I went with defaults on a Dell07:24
sJaM!ubuntuguide07:24
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.07:24
Whistlertotem cant play avi07:25
SwenDell Pentium 4 Optiplex GX28007:25
Swenpretty generic07:25
sJaMwhich codec Whistler07:25
lakcajWhistler, chmod 755 the python program, and then either "python /path/to/app/program_name.py" or "cd /path/to/app" and then "./program_name.py"07:25
sJaMavi can mean lots of codecs07:25
Paradoxxhmm, xine feels ALOT more responsive than totem07:26
zdennisduring the installation does Ubuntu partition your hard drive for you, or do you partition it yousrelf?07:26
SwenViewsonic flat screen vg71007:26
h17m4nok.... how do I install the UT2004 demo? The run.gz file?07:26
Paradoxxthe interface kinda sucks though, maybe its  cause i haven't got use to it yet07:26
SwenI let it do it (automatically07:26
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Swenthe drive I am using is on a USB port07:27
lakcajh17m4n, gunzip the run file, chmod 755 it, and then execute it by being in the same directory as the file and the ./ureal_demo.run or whatever it is called.07:27
zdennisah, u can't boot from that unless your BIOS lets you put from a USB drive07:27
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CarlFKSwen - hoary or breezy?07:27
Swenok...makes sense...let me try again...thx JILLIONS!07:28
MaikeruZyAir G-102 Wireless-G PC Card, 802.11g, b07:28
MaikeruHey07:28
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MaikeruIs that wireless card workable on linux07:29
Maikerulike right away07:29
Maikerudoes neone know?07:29
h17m4ngunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file07:29
Maikeruhttp://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=319673&pfp=srch107:29
MaikeruI can get it for $9.99 today07:29
MaikeruBut the thing is it -has- to work on linux without a bunch of BS07:30
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lakcajh17m4n, are you sure it downloaded ok?  From that error message, it would appear that the download was prematurally (sp?) halted.07:30
sJaMI think it is one of those install script & archive in one file things07:30
h17m4nlakcaj, I used d4x07:30
h17m4nlakcaj, does it mess up downloads like that?07:31
sJaMjust like .gz.sh07:31
sJaMor .sh.gz07:31
lakcajh17m4n, I don't know, I don't abuse servers with download accelerators07:31
sJaMif you vim it h17m4n you see then a bash script07:31
Maikeruhrm07:31
AgrajagsJaM: not unless it's unzipped first07:31
h17m4nlakcaj, I'm not abusing the server... I'm on a 256k connection... it's not cool to have to restart dls07:32
sJaMlike I said Agrajag it could be a script and archive in one file07:32
AgrajagsJaM: it is07:32
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AgrajagBut it has to be ungzipped before it can be run07:32
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h17m4nfirefox's download manager doesnt allow you to resume downloads, so I need to use a manager that will do so07:33
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djurgrrr..07:33
sJaMyou also have wget h17m4n07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYso is breezy ready to use yet?07:33
lakcajh17m4n, in any case, it would appear that the download was not successful.  I think you have to try again.07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYor is it still plauged by problems?07:33
Maikeruergh07:34
Maikeruhey07:34
MaikeruTexas Instruments chipsets based WiFi wireless IEEE 802.11a/b/g 54 Mbps 2.4/5 GHz devices07:34
MaikeruDo those work out-of-box on Linux?07:34
djurthis is the second time I've installed ubuntu to have my USB keyboard stop working on a reboot...07:34
MaikeruCause I found one for $10 instead of the usual $30, but the sale ends today07:34
djurwhen it boots in the live environment it detects the keyboard and works perfectly...  but on a reboot from an install it does not..07:34
Maikerubut the deal is only good to me if the card works on linux07:34
MaikeruIt's a Texas Instruments chipset07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes anyone know if breezy is ready for use yet?07:35
djurwhen installing your are installing from root, right?  on a reboot is it not root?07:35
dalamarits still beta so no, things are still broken, alas its not released yet07:36
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VarangerHello!07:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn i can't waite for it07:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYi love the horey addition so much it rocks so hard core07:37
h17m4nwget adresshere - that's how you use it right?07:37
VarangerI use Ubuntu and when my machine starts, it run gdm by default and then GNOME07:37
Whistlergrrrr.07:37
Whistleri cant make ubuntu play avi file07:37
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VarangerHow can I make that depending on the user GNOME or KDE is are loaded ?07:37
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funkyHatVaranger, on the login screen, there will be a button 'sessions'07:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYWhistler: you need to use backports to get .avi to play07:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyou need the W32codeces07:38
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Alcor_ What do i do when the ubuntu install can't mount the cdrom ? If i go to a shell and do dmesg its says a cdrom is on /dev/sr007:38
funkyHatVaranger, click that, then choose KDE, when you press enter, it will ask you if you want that to be the default session, or this time only07:38
WhistlerChurcH_of_FoamY i installed all plugins but totem-xine still cant play it07:38
lakcajAlcor_, man mount07:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell um use Mplayer07:38
funkyHatVaranger, (when you entered your username and password it will ask you that)07:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYit works for me07:38
dalamartotem is crap anyway, just use regular xine07:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwith the W32codeces07:38
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VarangerfunkyHat: thanks... but before that how can I install KDE ???07:39
ZotnixAnyone here using Breezy?07:39
zeus1_hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?07:39
funkyHatVaranger, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi use beep for my music and Mplayer for .avi and other propriatery codecs07:39
lakcajAlcor_, or add this to your /etc/fstab:           /dev/sr0       /media/cdrom2   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       007:39
ZotnixHaving an odd error with python. I do import os and then os.getlogin()07:39
ZotnixI get "No such file or directory" error07:39
funkyHatVaranger, or if you're more comfortable using synaptic, find the package kubuntu-desktop07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYZotnix: have you had any luck with breezy?07:39
lakcajAlcor_, and change /media/cdrom2 to whatever you want, but be sure that directory exists07:39
ZotnixChurcH_of_FoamY: Yeah. Using it now.07:39
Alcor_lakcaj: mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom gives /mounting /dev/sr0 on /cdrom failed: No medium found07:39
VarangerfunkyHat: Will that override my current configuration (gdm) ???07:40
XiDuSn07:40
lakcajAlcor_, stupid question - is there a disk in the drive?07:40
Alcor_yes07:40
saka|nixlol07:40
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ZotnixIs it an audio CD?07:40
funkyHatVaranger, you will be asked during the configuration whether you want to use gdm or kdm, but both gdm and kdm can be used to log in to either desktop environment07:40
Alcor_its the ubuntu install cd07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYZotnix: is it any good07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYshould i use it now or waite?07:41
lakcajAlcor_, try /dev/scd007:41
ZotnixChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm liking it. Cairo is really nice for Ubuntu. I'd say wait... I had a few issues during upgrade07:41
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ZotnixGDM messed up for a bit (config file problem), locales got messed up.07:41
zeus1_wats kubuntu07:41
funkyHatVaranger, the instructions i gave you for setting the default session apply to gdm, they are probably the same or similar for kdm, but i'm not certain07:41
funkyHatKDE07:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i'll waite some more >.<07:41
zeus1_well wats a kde07:41
ZotnixChurcH_of_FoamY: Only a month wait.07:41
funkyHatit's an alternative to Gnome07:41
ZotnixBut I'm insane. So I upgraded.07:42
lakcajzeus1_, google is your friend07:42
zeus1_where get pics07:42
ZotnixTook a long time to upgrade too. Few errors during the install process.07:42
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zeus1_is it like fluxbox07:42
zeus1_KDE07:42
VarangerfunkyHat: you are the best! Thanks a lot...07:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need a cool tux sticker for my box07:42
funkyHatno problem Varanger07:43
zeus1_oh wait i remember KDE07:43
ZotnixBut.. the good. Cairo is awesome. I don't think everything has ever looked this crisp07:43
zeus1_knoppix used KDE rite07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes07:43
funkyHatyep07:43
zeus1_ahh i like gnome better07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamY'yea gnome rocks07:43
zeus1_fluxbox is to hard for me07:43
ZotnixAw :(07:43
ZotnixCommand line applet doesn't accept URIs anymore07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYKDE is to um tweakable for my likes07:43
Maikeruknoppix can also switch to gnome07:43
funkyHati have gnome, kde, e17, xfce4, and afterstep07:43
zeus1_well i at least want to get my sound working before i use fluxbox again07:43
funkyHat:P07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally i diden't know that07:43
Maikeruthere's a thing in there to switch the display manager07:44
VarangerfunkyHat: I have downloaded kubuntu CD and trying to add the repositories to sources.list07:44
Maikerufrom gnome, kde, and some others07:44
Varanger(won't try to download more 100 mb again)07:44
djursurely someone knows how to make USB keyboards work consistently in ubuntu....   help meee..  I like my keyboard. ;)07:44
Zotnixhttp://zotnix.com/screens/current.png07:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYman that is a killer desktop ^_^07:45
Maikerunice07:45
MaikeruGood job on that Zotnix07:45
Pickle_Weaselis there an equalizer for rhythmbox?07:45
ZotnixPondering playing around with xcompmgr again07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi like how you have your colours in your terminal boxes07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you do that?07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYand how did you get on irc through them?07:46
ZotnixChurcH_of_FoamY: Default for ubuntu07:46
Zotnixls07:46
VarangerfunkyHat: see you!07:46
Zotnixirssi07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYhuh?07:46
ZotnixIs command line IRC client07:46
VarangerfunkyHat: bye07:46
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dalamarmeh, everything on my desktop is the same color ;)07:46
funkyHatbye Varanger, have fun with KDE07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats not the defult colours and stuff for ubuntu O_o07:46
Alcor_lakcaj: did't work. But i rebootet and tryed sr0 again. I gives me mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only. gives me that 3 times and ends with a fail: Invalid argument07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYunless your talkin breezy07:46
ZotnixWait.. you mean the windows?07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea they rock07:46
zeus1_anyone help me out with sound problems07:47
VarangerfunkyHat: I'll have even more fun with MythTV and Cedega!07:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYwith the clours and such07:47
ZotnixThe titlebars and GTK theme is Clearlooks-graphite07:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYok how do i get it i like the way it looks07:47
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ZotnixTheme doesn't work on Ubuntu Hoary07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis theme that comes with ubuntu is too bright for my likes07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat sucks07:48
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dalamaredit your terminal profile and change the colors07:48
Varangerzeus1_: What problem do you have?07:48
funkyHatclearlooks doesn't work at all on hoary afaik07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause i want to make the ubuntu theme darker it's too bright for my taste07:48
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Whistlergrrrrr07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats the only thing i have an isshue with other than that ubuntu is perfect ^_^07:48
funkyHatChurcH_of_FoamY, there are 100s of themes available online07:49
Zotnixhttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2675707:49
ZotnixWhere I got the theme07:49
djurIs there a USB keyboard module that I can put into /etc/modules  ?07:49
Whistlertotem-xine plays avi files but it cant find plugin for a specific avi file07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx07:49
Alcor_lakcaj: its a laptop and i can hear it tries very hard to mount. Maybe the cdrom is sata and no support for it ?07:49
funkyHatZotnix, am i correct about clearlooks not working on hoary?07:49
funkyHator was it something specific to that clearlooks theme? and just me for the rest of them? ;)07:49
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ZotnixfunkyHat: It works. Just too old for some new features in the engine07:50
disasmdjur: usbkbd07:50
WhistlerAVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :(07:50
helenkaplease where to find alsaconf07:50
funkyHatah, ok07:50
funkyHatthat would probably explain why some themes i've downloaded don't work07:50
funkyHat(yeah, they are all clearlooks themes)07:50
helenkaplease where to find alsaconf?07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYso what do you guys recommend for themeing ubuntu?07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike something cool and easy07:50
Zotnixoh. The theme changer works now... and woah. That was a bug07:51
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ZotnixHrm07:51
ZotnixTime for a bug report07:51
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djurthank you disasm07:51
lakcajAlcor_, not too sure, sorry07:51
djuris there any legacy or backup ones in case that doesn't work?07:51
ZotnixAnyone here using breezy that wants to try to duplicate it?07:51
pundaihey i dont seem to be able to apt-get xchat-systray even though i'm using universe07:51
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Alcor_lakcaj: dmesg give me shitload of scsi errors :/07:52
pundaiheyllo anyone know why i cant install some packages that are in universe, i've enabled them in the repositories dialog07:53
dalamarhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1901 now thats a desktop ;)07:53
helenkaIs there a possibility to get alsaconf installed? Can't find it anywhere and I have alsa-utils installed...please can anybody help?07:54
MaikeruHey07:54
MaikeruIf I get a card that is texas instruments07:54
Maikeru-will it work-07:54
Maikeruon linux07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat is awsome07:54
ZotnixHehe07:54
Maikeruor what stuff do I need?07:54
MaikeruWhat drivers?07:54
lakcajAlcor_, I've had problems with my external usb dvd burner.  I had to try different kernels to get it to work.  I'm actually on a debian sarge machine, and 2.6.8 is a POS with this drive.  2.6.11 seemed to work much better07:54
Maikeruhttp://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=319673&pfp=srch107:54
MaikeruI need to know if that'll work07:54
lakcajMaikeru, you don't need to press enter after every 3 words!07:54
ZotnixAnyone on Ubuntu Breezy... when you open the gnome-theme-manager does metacity disappear and reload? Not sure if it is crashing or what.07:54
Maikerucause I can get it for $10 today07:54
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zblachhi07:55
lakcajMaikeru, go try googling it, obviosly nobody in here knows07:55
Maikerulakcaj, sorry, habbit...I am trying to get done07:55
Maikerucause I have to leave now07:55
Zotnixokay07:55
Maikeruso I can get back to cook dinner tonight07:55
ZotnixOdd... now it isn't doing it.07:55
zblachanyone here a networking guru?07:55
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chrismyhey all07:57
dalamarthere may be info on the card on linuxhardware.org or something similar as well07:57
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vegalabszblach: would you like my output for iwconfig and ifconfig07:59
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DVSoftwarehello08:01
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DVSoftwareafter upgrading to breezy my usb hard drive isn't automaticaly detected anymore08:01
DVSoftwarecan this be fixed somehow?08:02
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vicesi'm having some troulbes installing the JRE08:02
dalamaryeah run a stable version of ubuntu08:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol08:02
DVSoftwaredalamar: if i wanted to use stable version, i would use it08:02
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znhehm.. why is proftpd hanging after logging in?08:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYNEW FOAMY ^_^ goto www.illwillpress.com08:03
pundaihey is this host ok http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/08:03
djurto the dude who just gave me the USB keyboard module name..   you rock.08:03
pundaifor sources.list08:03
znhpundai: backports != not good08:03
vices!forums08:03
dalamarwell things will be broken then08:03
pundaiznh, != not good?08:03
DVSoftwarei like bleeding edge ;)08:03
djurFor some reason ubuntu does not have a USB keyboard module in /etc/modules08:03
djurso after the first boot...  USB keyboards stop working.08:03
helenkaplease where can I find alsaconf?08:03
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znhpundai: backports are bad.. they are useless08:04
fivetwentysixWho wants to help me get my usb sound working???08:04
fivetwentysix:-(08:04
pundaiznh, ok08:04
dalamarI find the 'large' ubuntu mouse icons are pretty damn small ;)08:05
pundaiso youre saying dont use it08:05
bur[n] erfivetwentysix: check wiki first?08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven though i have backports in my list i have them commented out there only usefull for some things08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYotherwize they seem to break things in the os08:05
disasmdjur: i thought hotplug handled the usbkbd module, but echo usbkbd >> /etc/modules will do the trick08:05
pundaiwhat are backports for ubuntu08:05
fivetwentysixHmm Good idea08:05
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znhpundai: it is a place were you can fetch really new software, but they may contain bugs/errors08:05
shinuis there any alternative to k3b?08:06
pundaiah08:06
DVSoftwareshinu: there are many alternatives08:06
pundaiznh, how often do the normal archives get updated08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYand you should use them only if you have to otherwize avoid them like the plauge08:06
dalamark3b is the best! but there's gnomebaker, cmdline, lots of stuff08:06
znhpundai: very often, when the new archives are stable they will be added by the default places08:06
DVSoftwareand yeah08:06
pundaik3b > *08:06
shinuDVSoftware: any examples please?08:06
pundaiznh, ok08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYdalamar: i have to agree k3b is the best08:06
DVSoftwarei can't install vlc in breezy08:06
DVSoftware:S08:07
shinusee08:07
pundaii had just added those mirrors to sources.list and ubuntu told me there are upgrades08:07
ZotnixThe next release of Ubuntu after breezy should be called Bashing Butterfly please (Nice MSN reference)08:07
pundaibut since there were upgrades to libgcc i was kind of wary08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why you don't use breezy cause stuff is broken it's ok to be cutting edge though but not at the cost of functionality08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol08:07
dalamarbreezy will be nice for the new libc version for sure, I've run into a few programs requiring a new version now, ie newest gtkpod08:08
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: i guess it will be fixed soon08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat should be the next release name ^_^08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi hope so i can't waite to use it08:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYMicrosoft Windows: A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.08:08
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: when is release date for breezy?08:08
fivetwentysixClosest match I cound find related to my problem is Plantronics USB Headset Control bur[n] er08:08
dalamarim chomping at the bit too but everything works now so im not about to change anything ;)08:08
dalamaroctober 13th08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think in october08:08
ZotnixOctober08:09
ZotnixYeah08:09
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aznamrebonjour08:09
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znhanyone experienced with proftpd?08:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYall i have to say is an os like ubuntu is long overdue08:09
dalamarits the goods, thats for sure, best non-ms desktop os i've ever seen08:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYand yes if they did charge for it i would pay ^_^ just becuase it's better and more secure than microsoft stuff08:10
bur[n] erfivetwentysix: i'm honestly not familiar with using usb sound on anything... sorry08:10
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yes ubuntu absolutely rocks beyond any thing i have ever seen08:10
znhwhen I am trying to log on proftpd I am getting many 'operation not permitted' in the servers log08:10
=== bur[n] er wouldn't pay ;)
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol08:10
dalamarid pay08:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi would just because of how good it is08:10
dalamaras long as it wasnt a 100-some dollars08:10
=== bur[n] er would donate and buy propaganda though ;)
ChurcH_of_FoamYof course not08:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYthey should make it like $q008:11
ChurcH_of_FoamY$1008:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<08:11
|eehola08:11
dalamarid pay a good 20 at least08:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea08:11
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: i've used mandrake, then slackware, and i think  i'll stick to ubuntu08:11
chrismyhula hoop08:11
|eecomo hago para que el webadmin se pueda ejecutar desde una makina remota?08:11
c0rrupt_=-O08:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed some other distros and have come to this conclusion08:11
dalamari switched from fc4 to ubuntu, the diferences are quite alot08:12
DVSoftware|ee: #ubuntu-es08:12
DVSoftware:D08:12
fivetwentysixsomeone help me08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYgentoo is for rocket scientists and computer geeks with way to much time on there hands08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYmandrake is ok to use but slightly hard to get used to08:12
linuksoHi! Is anyone using gajim with hoary? I could only find a package for breezy...08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYredhat just costs way to much08:12
fivetwentysiximtrying to get my C-Media USB Headphone Set to work08:12
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: mandrake is crap, slow as ass08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol08:12
DVSoftwaresuse is even slower08:13
DVSoftwarelinukso: gajim?08:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu now theres a reason why it's number one on all distro watch boards08:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's fast works out of the box compilation times are awsomely short08:13
|eeDVSoftware,  thanx08:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit can play games and burn cd's serf the inet outta the box08:13
bur[n] eranyone able to get kqemu compiled??08:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYand is the linux gnu(b)s heavin08:14
linuksoDVSoftware: jabber client written in pygtk08:14
DVSoftwareuse gaim damnit08:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYnothing not even windows xp or longhorn can even come close to touching what ubuntu can do08:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYand on top of that you own the software not some 2 bit company that dosen't give a crap about you and only cares for your money08:15
bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: go rant on a website to build publicity... chances are most people here feel the same way ;)08:15
bur[n] erthen encourage it for use in schools ;)08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol i would if i could get away with most of my rants that one was toned down alot a whole lot08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYactually i have a freind who's the technology director for the schools in my aria08:16
DVSoftwarei've given away all my ubuntu cds08:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi already gave him a copy08:16
DVSoftwarejust left one copy for me ;)08:16
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linuksoDVSoftware: thats not what I asked...08:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand there testing it on pc's and macs in various parts of the school districr08:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYdistrict even >.<08:16
DVSoftwarelinukso: why don't you download it from their official site08:17
DVSoftwareand install it08:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand to be honist i don't ever plug something i don't belve in ^_^ and ubuntu is something i'll gladly plug any time ^_^08:17
dalamari like cheese, i'd plug that08:17
linuksoDVSoftware: thats what I am doing, just wanted to ask if someone had a package first...08:17
dalamarcheese on anything makes it better ;)08:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea ^_^08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu cheesy edition ^_^08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o08:18
dalamarwell thats sounds bad but i'd appreciate it haha08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol08:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok ubuntu cheezy breezy edition?08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm doing a free software day thing in my town and ubuntu is gonna be the showcase08:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have 300 cd (hopefully) coming to me08:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i've advertised the event too08:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi hope people show up08:20
BeFalouhi there08:20
aruoffer hash brownies08:20
dalamarhaha08:20
dalamar'mm .. linux'08:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYaru you know i was thinking of doing that08:20
DVSoftwarehm08:20
aruI figured you were :)08:20
DVSoftwarelinukso: there should be gajim package08:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYcept i'd have to through some shrooms in there for the awsome screensavers it comes with08:21
DVSoftwarein universe08:21
DVSoftware!info gajim08:21
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DVSoftwarehmmm08:21
DVSoftwarehttp://linux.blogweb.de/archives/81-Gajim-The-PSI-on-Gnome.html08:21
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linuksoDVSoftware: Thats what it says on the website, but apt-cache doesn't agree :), neither do packages.ubuntu.com08:21
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DVSoftwarestrange08:21
mirakhi08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYshit just the screensavers ubuntu comes with are worth it08:22
linuksoit will be there in breezy, but not hoary08:22
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mirakXine on ubuntu breezy crash when you do a right click08:22
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koriodoes anyone know of any alternative repos? wich have software wich is more up to date..08:22
FibreOpticHey ppl. Any suggestions on cd burning pkgs?08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh speaking of screensavers how do i install the screensavers that don't come as default with ubuntu?08:23
bur[n] er!tell korio about backports08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to get them?08:23
FibreOptickorio: I could copy you my repo file08:23
bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: search synaptic for screensaver08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can do the same08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk08:23
FibreOpticactually :) that works too.08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYif you want i can pastebin my intire sources.list08:23
koriothx FibreOptic but bur[n] er told me08:24
FibreOpticCofF: You have a better one than the list in the wiki?08:24
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fivetwentysixYESSSSS08:24
fivetwentysixMy sound works!!!!&$&$#&#$&#&08:24
fivetwentysixawesome08:24
koriocool ^^08:24
FibreOptic526: awesome :) way to go08:24
fivetwentysixits cuz my soundcard was connected through my keyboard usb ports08:25
bur[n] erfivetwentysix: good work :)08:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYhere is my sources.list hope this helps someone08:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/35455908:25
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fivetwentysixthanks08:25
FibreOptic526: hmm...unorthodox setup i guess :) but...whatever works eh?08:25
fivetwentysixyeah08:25
korioheh I have been trying to run Ubuntu but couldnt connect ot the net but then I switched network card and it worked ;D08:25
fivetwentysixi had all my 4 usb ports being used08:25
fivetwentysixso i had to switch my mouse08:26
fivetwentysixto use the green thing08:26
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BeFalouxrgb is broken? It can't be installed because of xutils...08:26
fivetwentysixwow08:26
fivetwentysix24 usb ports?08:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea mostly usb 2.0 hubs and a few 2.0 cards by belkin08:26
FibreOptic526: yeah. it's always best to plug tempeamental things like that on a direct line, free of any external hubs08:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can get usb 2.0 cards up here for $12.99 a pop08:27
FibreOpticSo, any ideas on cd-burning packages? Something good for Data and Music.08:27
FibreOpticoh...something that works in GDM too :)08:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was surprised that ubuntu knew how to run a riser board08:28
fivetwentysixi use a zboard08:28
fivetwentysixim happy it works on linux hehe08:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi ran outta pci slots so i bought a riser board to make more pci slots08:28
FibreOpticCofF: ubuntu the distro i've had the best luck with so far08:28
bur[n] erFibreOptic: works in gdm??08:28
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kspathI had a 3-head ubuntu linux machine   3x1600x1200 24bit  but 3 CRTs using 100Watts each was too much08:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow nice08:28
FibreOpticburner: gnome desktop :)08:29
bur[n] erFibreOptic: use synaptic and search for 'cd burning' you'll find graveman & gnomebaker08:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to get my dual monitors to work but i'm not hsure how08:29
fivetwentysixi bet monitors will one day connect through usb ports08:29
midkcan anyone tell me how to adjust GRUB settings? (specifically the default boot OS)08:29
bur[n] ergdm is not gnome desktop.... gdm == the login manager based on gtk08:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYno if they do something like that they should use firewire08:29
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: usb is the stupidest thing ever invented08:29
bur[n] ermidk: system -> administration -> boot08:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's faster though proprietary08:29
FibreOpticburn: you like those the best eh? thanks for the input :) aah...i have my acronyms scrambled08:29
fivetwentysixDVSoftware, why is that?08:29
FibreOptici thought that was gnome desktop manager08:30
midkbur[n] er, checked all the menus.. i don't have a "boot" option..08:30
bur[n] erFibreOptic: k3b is a kde app, but works just fine in gnome08:30
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: usb was intended for windoze08:30
fivetwentysixso?08:30
bur[n] ermidk: install gnome-system-tools08:30
FibreOpticburn: yeah I have kde libs installed anyway.08:30
korioum how are we supposed to change sources.list when we cant login as root?08:30
midkis there a file i can edit instead? just wanna adjust this quickly..08:30
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: so lot of usb devices won't work on linux08:30
bur[n] ermidk: /etc/grub/menu.lst08:30
bur[n] ermidk: i lied.... /boot/grub/menu.lst08:31
fivetwentysixso why is it the stupidest thing ever invented?08:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone hear about the plug and play virus that affects all microsoft oses?08:31
bur[n] erkorio: sudo08:31
midkbur[n] er, haha, thanks, i'll give it a shot :)08:31
bur[n] er!tell korio about sudo08:31
koriobur[n] er, im not changing it throug the console08:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's suposed to be really nasty08:31
bur[n] erkorio: gksudo08:31
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: yep... i hate windoze08:31
FibreOpticburn: thanks for that.08:31
fivetwentysixWhy?08:31
bur[n] erkorio: changing through synaptic already uses gksudo08:32
DVSoftwarecos its crap08:32
fivetwentysixThere's nothing wrong with Windows.08:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe sarah lee bakery got hit with it and it took down there whole network08:32
bur[n] erFibreOptic: no problem08:32
=== bur[n] er begs to differ... there's a lot wrong with windows
bur[n] erall starting with the windows registry08:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYno theres nothing wrong with windows......except for the fact that it makes you stupid can get viruses easy crashes all the time you don't own it and it costs 200 dollars more than it's worth and heavin forbid if your warrenty runs out then it $60 a tech call08:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut no theres nothing wrong with it08:33
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FibreOpticAnyone have luck installing MS_Office using crossover?08:33
NgFibreOptic: yep08:33
FibreOptici need me MS_Access :)08:34
fivetwentysixYou guys are all the same08:34
FibreOpticand...that's all i need from it :P08:34
fivetwentysixNo respect for competitors08:34
NgFibreOptic: ah, I've only used it for word, excel and powerpoint08:34
FibreOpticng: i get those with Openoffice...and i prefer that08:34
NgAccess is untouchable ;)08:34
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: when competitors will respect linux, then we will respect them08:34
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcorrection you microsoft endorsers are all the same no respect for compettitors or small businesses08:34
riskohi08:34
bur[n] erFibreOptic: i got word & excel to work, but outlook failed miserably08:34
bur[n] erFibreOptic: not sure about access08:34
fivetwentysixThey don't have a problem with Linux08:34
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud08:35
midkbur[n] er, "/boot/grub/menu.lst can't open file for writing"08:35
kspathI would not use MS Access for logical reasons08:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich would explane why things like lotus 123 don't exist anymore08:35
FibreOpticbur[n] er: that's okay...cause I prefer Evolution better than Outlook :)08:35
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fivetwentysixMicrosoft uses linux themselves08:35
bur[n] ermidk: edit it as root silly08:35
riskohi all08:35
fivetwentysixin their work places08:35
midkhaha.. argh, it's been a while... :)08:35
bur[n] erFibreOptic: can't work in exchange from evolution all that well08:35
bur[n] erit works, but barely08:35
NgFibreOptic: I use OpenOffice in preference, but sometimes I just need MS Office :/08:35
BeFalouI'm trying to dist-upgrade but it fails with xrgb because /usr/bin/showrgb is in xutils, is there any fix?08:36
bur[n] erno caching, no colors for calendar, etc08:36
bur[n] erand there isn't a great linux groupware solution yet08:36
fivetwentysixWhy would you need groupware?08:36
CookedGryphonhow would i go about setting up a network link between two ubuntu machines so that i can jsut transfre files direct from one to the other?08:36
bur[n] erBeFalou: you could force overwrite, but be wary08:36
FibreOpticbur[n] er: I'm not much into the groupware aspect. I have my schedule, my emails....and it seems to do what i want it to08:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYif microsoft changed its business practises and was more competitor freindly and diden't charge people $200 for a peace of plasic with a licence that the end user dosen't own then maybe i'll change my views of it08:36
bur[n] erfivetwentysix: to operate a business? :)08:36
CookedGryphonalso can i use downloaded packages on one to update the other? where does apt store the packages?08:36
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fivetwentysixoh08:36
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: well they are using linux in labs, where they are stealing ideas from hundreds of opensource developers08:36
midkbur[n] er, there we go.. thx again. :)08:36
BeFaloubur[n] er: ok, thx08:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know the buggers08:37
bur[n] ermidk: you're very welcome08:37
bur[n] erBeFalou: also welcome08:37
fivetwentysixDVSoftware, well that's the problem with being open source08:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's becuase microsoft is now just realizing that linux might be a serious threat to the way they do things08:37
FibreOpticOoF: OH NO! God forbid someone trample their fiefdom!08:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYand if they want to servive the next few decades there gonna have to be cheap and steal ideas from real programs08:38
fivetwentysixNot really, Microsoft is giving room for Linux, by giving Windows XP more of a gaming operating system08:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYprogrammers even08:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know what i play most of my games in linux with out much problem08:38
DVSoftwareme too08:39
fivetwentysixI can't08:39
poningruyeah me neither08:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi could give a crap less what low tacktics that microsoft uses08:39
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DVSoftwarei'm playing GTA SA now08:39
riskobut i cannot play Soldier of Fortune 2 in linux (native)08:39
matthew_wAnyone know how to set up TV OUT support in Ubuntu?08:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo you guys use transgamings cedega?08:39
fivetwentysixI don't know how to install my ati drivers08:39
poningrumatthew_w: what vid card?08:39
poningrufivetwentysix: you probably cant but search through the wiki08:39
matthew_wponingru; Nvidia GeForce 2 - already installed the drivers.08:39
poningru!ati08:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx08:39
FibreOpticCoF: wow...dude. That's some repo list you have08:40
poningrumatthew_w: just boot up your comp with the tv out plugged in08:40
poningruit should detect and work08:40
DVSoftwarefivetwentysix: what i hate most at microsoft08:40
DVSoftwareis closed source08:40
DVSoftwarethey could steal source from many opensource apps08:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy system specs: amd xp 1800+ 256MB pc 3200 100gig sata drive an nvidia dual head 4000mx with tv out and an 8x agp gigabit ethernet connected to a 5mb/s download(cable modem) with a 128mb upload08:41
koriowhen i try to add a repository though synaptec it doesnt show up inte the list08:41
CookedGryphonhow would i go about setting up a network link between two ubuntu machines so that i can jsut transfre files direct from one to the other? anyone?08:41
slibscan i open applications like azureus in "screen" so if i reset x, they won't shutdown?08:41
DVSoftwareand nobody would even notice08:41
poningruthere was this girl named dreamie here any one know where she went?08:41
matthew_wponingru; I've done this for days.  lol08:41
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poningrumatthew_w: hmm dont know then08:41
mirakcrap08:41
mirakagain this firefox bug08:41
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud08:41
poningrucause my ati 320 works like that08:41
DVSoftwarehis windows crashed08:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi play counterstrile 1.5 1.6 half life WoW GuildWars condition zero battlefield 1942 and vietnam08:42
mpm2I typically use gaim, but am using Xchat atm, can anyone tell me how to display the list of users in-channel in the xchat window?08:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe only thing i haven't gotten to run in linux is ragnarok and x-fire08:42
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: i would like to play guildwars, but i don't have money to buy it :cry:08:42
DVSoftware:(08:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi knoe08:42
kspathI realize that many people will not give up MS because of games. I simply gave up gaming because I have a family and gaming can eat up your time/life08:42
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's pricy i bought mine from ebay08:43
koriowhen i try to add a repository though synaptec it doesnt show up inte the list08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrand new seald in the box for 15 dollars08:43
DVSoftwarew00t08:43
poningruChurcH_of_FoamY: what did you get?08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh hell yea it rocks08:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYGuildWars08:43
dalamarcedega actually works really well though, even if its not native-run gaming08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea it's awsome08:43
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: is there some more?08:43
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poningruyou have to pay for cedega08:43
poningruso dont think so08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea search ebay for Guild Wars08:43
poningrumonthly even08:44
poningruso no08:44
DVSoftwareponingru: i didn't paid it08:44
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DVSoftware:D08:44
dalamarits incredibly cheap08:44
poningruDVSoftware: how?08:44
=== bur[n] er still plays warcraft 3 occasionally with a friend... it's like a game of chess :)
ChurcH_of_FoamYi pay for cedega and it's worth every penny08:44
DVSoftwareyou want it?08:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat war craft?08:44
dalamarif you cant afford 15 dollars for 3 months i really feel sorry for you08:44
graabeini am having problems with the wep-key for my wireless network... any suggestions? the password is just numbers...08:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi beleve that because of cedega ubuntu has more than proved it's self as a worthy gaming distro08:45
boberthow would I unload alsa's hw:0 address so something else may use it?08:45
DVSoftwaredalamar: i can afford it08:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust instead of using ati (theres nothing wrong with ati mind you) use nvidia it seems to work better with linux08:45
FibreOptichave we all had lessons in proper linux pronounciation? /etc is pronounced ET-see, and TTY is pronounced titty. thank you.08:45
DVSoftwarebut i can't pay it08:45
FibreOpticthere's gotta be more out there :) throw em out if you think of em08:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYDVSoftware:  you should it's worth every penny08:46
pepsiwhats wrong with Tee Tee Why?08:46
DVSoftwareChurcH_of_FoamY: i really can't08:46
DVSoftwarebecause i don't have credit card08:46
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Dragon513helloo08:46
FibreOpticpepsi: well, you could :) but it's not nearly as cool08:46
bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: assuming you don't have a shitty ati video card that is08:46
Dragon513it's Sunday08:46
koriocan anyone help me add repositories to apt-get?08:46
Dragon513and I wanna watch a movie..08:46
bobertooh, korio I just had a link to that08:46
bobertlemmie get it08:46
bur[n] erkorio: check wiki?08:46
Dragon513but...divx movies looks bad on Ubuntu...08:46
dalamar!repos08:47
korioit just doesnt add to the list08:47
ubotuI heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:47
boberthttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:47
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CookedGryphonwhere does apt store downloaded packages? could i get all the packages from one computer and install them on another easily wihtout having to download them again?08:47
Dragon513can anyone help me out...? movie quality bad....08:47
bur[n] er!tell korio about repositories08:47
FibreOptickorio: http://pastebin.com/35455908:47
bur[n] erDragon513: use xine?08:47
bur[n] erDragon513: apt-get install totem-xine08:47
FibreOptickorio: that's a wicked one CofO just gave me. it's awesome08:47
dalamarCookedGryphon, doubtful, it does a 'clean' after install removing the archives08:47
Dragon513bur[n] er: i did...08:47
CookedGryphonokay, thanks anyway08:48
Dragon513movies look bad no matter the players..08:48
FibreOpticCofF...pardonez moi08:48
bur[n] erDragon513: and fine in windows?08:48
Dragon513yap08:48
bur[n] erDragon513: very odd, mine look good08:48
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Dragon513look all good in Windows..08:48
CookedGryphoncan anyone tell me how to directly link 2 ubuntu computers togetehr and send files direct from one to another08:48
dalamarwell its divx what o you expect ;)08:48
CookedGryphon?>08:48
korioithanks FibreOptic08:48
koriothanks*08:48
pepsiCookedGryphon, ethernet08:48
=== bur[n] er would expect same quality in linux & windows
CookedGryphonem, thanks08:48
topylierm. how do you install rhythmbox plugins? the audioscrobbler plugin from last.fm?08:48
CookedGryphonhow do i set it u[p?08:48
slibshow can i open program to another X ?08:49
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: crossover cable & network cards?08:49
CookedGryphongot08:49
slibsor is it even possible?08:49
bur[n] erslibs: ssh -X08:49
CookedGryphonall set up and plugged in, now what do i do?08:49
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poningruCookedGryphon: any connection to mconnor/Lucy?08:49
Dragon513dalamar: but..they look better in Windows..08:49
CookedGryphonwho now?08:49
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: crossover?08:49
pepsiCookedGryphon, setup an nfs or smb share08:49
CookedGryphonhow do i do that?08:49
dalamardunno, i dont deal with divx08:49
matthew_wMy mplayer crashes whenever I try to open a video file - why?08:49
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: set ips to 192.168.0.1 & 192.168.0.2 with 192.168.0.1 as the gateway on both08:49
lakcajEnable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html08:50
Dragon513matthew_w i have exact same problem;08:50
FibreOptickorio: no prob dude...just sharing the wealth08:50
seifecan i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?08:50
FibreOpticOkay...here's question of the day. When i want to run programs as root, i want to use the (different) root password instead of my own. Is there a way to fix that?08:50
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bur[n] erCookedGryphon: packages are in /var/apt/archives/08:51
seifecan i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?08:51
bur[n] ervmware is not free08:51
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, sorry but i've never tried this net thing b4, how do i do that?08:51
CookedGryphonaoh and thank 4 that too08:51
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matthew_wIs there some solution to this mplayer problem?  I'm quite sure I have all applicable plugins/drivers.08:51
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: do you have a router by chance?08:51
CookedGryphoni ujstu have a cat5 cable, that i kno works cos i can share windows machines with it08:52
seifecan i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?08:52
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: crossover?08:52
CookedGryphonyeah,08:52
bur[n] erok08:52
bur[n] erhow did you set the ips in windows?08:52
bur[n] erdo the same thing in ubuntu08:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYseife yes as long as xp is on the first hard drive as the first partition08:52
CookedGryphonlol it was a wizard08:52
CookedGryphoni dunno the technicalities of what it did08:53
bur[n] ersystem -> administration -> networking08:53
CookedGryphonokay08:53
seifeChurcH_of_FoamY: there are no partitions, three apart HDs08:53
seifefirst and second are xp hds08:53
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: set ips to 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 & both gateways to 192.168.0.108:53
FibreOpticCofF: I just got a TON of errors with that new repo list08:53
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seifethe third is the ubuntu one, i would like to connect it as second win xp HD slave.08:53
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: then use samba (or nfs) and share files... then from the other one do smb://192.168.0.108:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYok xp on the first ubuntu on the second and ect ect on the third08:53
CookedGryphoni domn't see ips08:53
seifeChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntu cant be on third?08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYand don't forget that you can have multiple oses as long as xp is first on the hd08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes it can08:54
bobertXP doesnt care if it's the first08:54
bur[n] erxp doesn't have to be first silly08:54
bobertthat was the dos era08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu can be where ever your putting it08:54
bur[n] erso can xp08:54
CookedGryphonoh i think i have got it..08:54
bur[n] erit just has to be on a primary partition instead of a logical08:54
seifeChurcH_of_FoamY: the ID2 goes to second HD, then the cable has another port wich ill plug to ubuntu disk, can i do that?08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat every time i have put xp on a second partition it woulden't work for ne08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think so yes08:55
XorlevXP bootloader gets pissed if its not on the primary drive, so you have to trick it.08:55
bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: has to be marked as boot and on a primary partition08:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok thats what i though08:55
XorlevPartition doesn't matter though as long as its marked as boot and active.08:55
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seifeChurcH_of_FoamY: dont understand what bur[n] er said.08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i thought no matter what xp and windows 98 partitions have to be on the front part of the hard drive08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i think he was saying that you can put the oses on any partition as long as the partition is made bootable and is a primary partition08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYbur[n] er: am i right?08:57
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majikstreetwtf was that?!?!!?08:57
majikstreetwhy did i get hicked08:57
majikstreetoh shit wrong channel08:57
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum becuase your a red neck or you fooded the chat room08:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYie hicked08:58
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ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<08:58
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iveqyHi, how to change charset from utf8 to iso-8859-10 in the console?08:58
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FibreOptickorio: better yet, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list in nano using a root shell08:59
FibreOptickorio: cause...gedit does funky things to it08:59
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lakcajiveqy, try dpkg-reconfigure locales09:00
Alex_BOHELLO!how can i set tar to compress one partition?09:01
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iveqylakcaj thx :D09:01
shammywhat video player can i use to play wmv's?09:01
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iveqyshammy mplayer09:02
Belutzlakcaj: what's that for, sorry, just joining09:02
iveqyshammy www.mplayer.hu09:02
bur[n] ershammy: totem... assuming you have w32codecs package09:02
lakcajBelutz, just changes the system locales, ie utf-8, etc09:02
Belutzlakcaj: ic, thx fot informing :)09:02
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Belutz*for09:03
lakcajnp09:03
FibreOpticmah.....he left before i could tell him to run apt-get update, after he puts the new sources in. ahh, he's a bright lad. should figure it out09:03
shammyThanks guys, i'm installed the codecs09:03
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iveqylakcaj still not working, do I need to restart anything?09:03
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Alex_BOHELLO!how can i set tar to compress one partition?09:04
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthe bottle is loosing09:04
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^09:04
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol09:05
aukdid he give you any of his spiced rum yet?09:05
Alex_BOcan somebody help me?09:05
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digitalgraffitihey09:05
ItangastHello all. How can i get ubunto to boot from a disk which is not accessible as a boot device in the BIOS? (e.g. by install-cd boot parameters)09:05
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digitalgraffitiI need some help installing drivers for my sb live 24bit in ubuntu09:06
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CarlFKInstalling hoary on a compaq armada 1700 laptop that is running on AC.  it gets past the eject cd, rebot, starts doing stuff, I walk away.  I come back, it is off.  this has happened 2 times now.  muy guess is the CPU fan isn't being turned on.  anyone have any ideas?09:06
digitalgraffitithe cpu fan might be the problem09:07
yauli have a problem with realplayer. it doesnt do anything, with or without a file argument. i looked in the wiki and it says to remove the flash plugins from its install dir, but i can't find those. does anyone know how to solve this problem?09:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYauk: hey yea he did09:07
digitalgraffitiif it's turning off on it's own and you know the cpu fan isn't turning on it might be an overheating issue09:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYhe's bleeding it09:07
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^09:07
irbdavidhiya, i'm trying to follow this howto here: http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php to get me wireless working.  no gcc on ubuntu though?09:07
CarlFKdigitalgraffiti - any clue how to tell it to turn the fan on?09:07
digitalgraffitireplace it09:07
aukChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://internoodle.net/page/16/09:07
auk*: *09:07
digitalgraffitisend it in for repair09:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea can ubuntu monitor the computer temps and fan speeds09:08
kandoora_has anyone heard of autopackage09:08
CarlFKdigitalgraffiti - the fan works.  I know older linux kernels needed a patch to turn it on09:08
lakcajiveqy, likely have to restart the terminal for sure09:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYauk that is so awsome09:08
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auklol09:08
CarlFKmaybe if I stick a fan next to the case untill it is done installing.09:09
kandoora_go to http://autopackage.org09:09
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digitalgraffitisorry Carl09:09
digitalgraffitiI didn't know about the patch you mentioned09:09
digitalgraffitican anyone help me with my drivers?09:10
bobertwhere would I get /dev/snd/seq?09:10
elechas anyone instaled ubuntu in a COMPAQ R4012 ?09:10
iveqylakcaj still fucked up, doesn't matter if I choose utf8 or iso** still don't got my special chars09:11
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digitalgraffitiI have an SB Live 24bit ..I want to use the emu10k1 drivers but I just need some help to get them installed as modules09:11
shinuhow can i delete a block of text at once in vi?09:12
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kevin06Was everyone unregged because of the massive spamming?09:13
lakcajiveqy, well, I'm not sure how to help you with that.  What does the locale command say?  Is it reflecting the changes you made?09:13
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iveqylakcaj yes, it makes me choose the locales to generate and then choose a systemwide locale to use. After that it's generating locales09:14
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silvanhi - i have tryed to use the ipw2200 module (1.0.6) for my intel pro wlan card (including upgraded firmware to 2.3) - driver loads fine bug i can't get a dhcp lease - anyone encountered similar problems?09:14
DJWillisCarlFK: If you can install off AC done those old Armada laptops have an option in the BIOS partition to keep the fan on when on AC. Assuming you still have the BIOS config utill (it's on a FAT12 partition at the front of the disk)09:14
lakcajiveqy, you don't have anything in .bashrc or .bash_profile that might be over-riding /etc/environment?09:14
kevin06Alrighty, my real question. I installed the Webmin package, but I am having isues logging in. It asks me for my password and then banns me when I get it wrong 3 times. I tried my root password, my user pasword, tried "root", tried blank, all don't work.09:15
iveqylakcaj maybe... I check :)09:15
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dalamaranyone know why the right side of xine gets sketchy and flickers if im in 1600x1200 75 mhz? works fine in 1280x1024 85 mhz, is the refresh change doing it?09:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan ubuntu monitor the temps inside the case and the fan speeds?09:15
chrismyyo anyone knows how to compile xvid from source?09:15
iveqylakcaj no :(09:15
CarlFKChurcH_of_FoamY - yes09:15
lakcajiveqy, besides that, I don't have much experience with special characters, so that's about all I can think of.09:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i make it do that?09:15
NoHopehey, will firefox 1.5 be available when it will be released?09:15
CarlFKChurcH_of_FoamY - but only after you have the base system instlled ;)09:15
digitalgraffitican anyone help me with a driver install?09:16
lakcajNoHope, when it's ready09:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi have a oil cooled system09:16
CarlFKChurcH_of_FoamY - there is a package.  kSensors I think09:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i need to monitor the temps and stuff09:16
aukchurchy: overclocker?09:16
iveqylakcaj thank you for your help! I will try to find some swedish ubuntu users... :p09:16
NoHopelakcaj, thx.... nine days, right?09:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes09:16
aukchurchy: you bad person!09:16
lakcajiveqy, np.09:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand if i get the stuff i saw on tech tv i will be the most hardcore overclocker in the town09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe shit i saw is 200 dollars a gallon09:17
lsuactiafnerhow many ide devices will linux detect? i have a pc with 3 cdroms 2 ide and 1 sata09:17
lsuactiafnerand only the sata and cdroms detect09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it a liquid that is non conductive to electricity09:17
lsuactiafnerevery ide has its own cable09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYi saw them take this 486dx 66 cpu and mother board and over clock it to 1.5Ghz09:17
lakcajiveqy, try #debian.se09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYand stick it in this liquid motherboard and all09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it ran O_o09:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthey where playing doom3 on it O_O09:18
iveqylakcaj ok :) thanks!09:18
aukchurchy: did you read that irc discussion about asses and arrays? i am proud to say i started it :P09:18
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Xplohello09:18
aukHEY, XPLO!!09:18
Xplohey auk09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYso i'm gonna get my hands on it and try it with my cpu and see what fun i can have09:19
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digitalgraffitineed some help with a driver install here! :)09:19
Xploi want to update my kernel, how can i do that?09:19
DJWillisChurcH_of_FoamY: Install LMSensors or something similar then use any number of GUI tools to read out the results.09:19
chrismyanyone?09:19
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, you are being way too specific for anyone to answer... try being a little more vague09:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYok some one help me do that?09:19
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DJWillislsuactiafner: What IDE control are the other drives on, motherboard or IDE card/controler chip?09:20
digitalgraffitiI said that I have an SB Live 24Bit ... want to install the emu10k1 drivers but I just would like some help to get that done lakcaj09:20
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lakcajdigitalgraffiti, sudo modprobe snd_emu10k109:21
digitalgraffitity09:22
Xploanyone know how to update a kernel in ubuntu?09:22
Xploor how to install ati drivers?09:22
Xploplease help09:22
CarlFKXplo - wiki.  just a sec09:22
digitalgraffitinothing happened lakcaj09:22
Xplook09:22
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, what does "lsmod | grep snd" show?09:23
CarlFKXplo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:23
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digitalgraffitia whole bunch of stuff09:23
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, well, those are the modules that are loaded right now.  lsmod = list modules09:23
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, modules that start with snd are alsa audio modules09:23
digitalgraffitiwell emu10k1 is listed but I still don't have any sound09:24
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, try alsamixer and make sure everything is unmuted and turned up.  If you don't have it, it is in alsa-utils I think.09:24
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Quinthiuswhich audio output is preferrable to use when all 3 work (like in beep-media-player) ... alsa, esd or oss?09:24
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theeilmy LAMP server is not working for be but it is for phpmyadmin :S09:25
lakcajWhy doesn't ubuntu have the alsaconf utility?  Nobody seems to know.  I would just like to know why they removed alsaconf from alsa-utils.09:25
Xplothanx CarlFK09:25
Xplodo you also know how to update the kernel?09:25
digitalgraffitinothing is muted lakcaj09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i instastalled ksensors now what?09:25
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lakcajdigitalgraffiti, to test your card, first try using something like "aplay /usr/share/sounds/some_sound.wav"09:26
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, and see if you get an error message09:26
digitalgraffitioh I got error messages allright09:27
lsuactiafnerDJWillis : they're on the motherboard09:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYomg :O it looks like a motherboard monitor ripoff O_o09:27
digitalgraffitiwould I really be better just reinstalling ubuntu?09:27
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, I don't think that should be necessary.09:28
digitalgraffitiwell does ubuntu have the emu10k1 drivers already? I thought it didi09:28
digitalgraffiti-i09:28
tearis gnat precompiled in Ubuntu?09:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok ksensors dosen't tell me the 2 most important things i need to know cpu and motherboard/case temp and fan speed09:29
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digitalgraffitiLSA lib confmisc.c:550:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 009:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver return ed error: No such device09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib confmisc.c:387:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned er ror: No such device09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib confmisc.c:945:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there some way to get it to tell me the speed and temp?09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned err or: No such device09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib conf.c:3932:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device09:29
digitalgraffitiALSA lib pcm.c:2068:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default09:29
digitalgraffitiaplay: main:508: audio open error: No such device09:29
digitalgraffitioh crap didn't mean to paste all that sorry09:29
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lakcajdigitalgraffiti, don't flood09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYARGGGHHH SPAM >.<09:29
digitalgraffitisorry didn't mean to09:29
Paul_BigDaddyAnyone here have experience 5.04 LiveCD AMD64 & networking problems?09:29
digitalgraffitibut that's all the error messages I'm getting09:29
ramza3I am thinking of making a switch from gentoo to ubuntu, what should I be prepared for?  I like gentoo's upgrade system, I haven't had any problems, think I will with ubuntu09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone know how to get ksensors to spit out the cpu tem and fan speed or is there another app that does that?09:30
lakcajramza3, apt > emerge09:30
tearnevermind, found it09:30
__filip_have ubuntu better hardware support then debian? have they made somethink whit the system? because my keyboard dont work in debian but it work in ubuntu.09:30
DJWillislsuactiafner: going to /msg you as it's a bit crowded in herre ;-)09:30
lsuactiafnerChurcH_of_FoamY : cat /proc/cpuinfo09:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu is debian + 100009:31
lsuactiafnerfor frequency09:31
ramza3lakcaj: nice...well then09:31
lsuactiafnerbut lm_sensors rock09:31
Quinthiusramza3: ubuntu is a lot more automated and most things seem to "just work" ... there's not much to be "prepared" for it seems09:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i need the temprature and fan speed09:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know what my cpu is running at09:31
digitalgraffitilakcaj ..if I disable my onboard ac'97 in bios would ubuntu install drivers for my sb live sound card on install?09:32
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, I'm on a debian sarge machine, which includes the alsaconf utility.  I have no idea why ubuntu got rid of alsaconf, and I can't find anyone who can give me a reason why.09:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYalmost 4 ghz09:32
digitalgraffitioh no09:32
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lakcajdigitalgraffiti, possibly, I'm not sure09:32
theeilcan someone help me configure perl/cgi/php for LAMP server (phpmyadmin works but i can't get stuff working)09:32
Paul_BigDaddyno one here has used the LiveCD and had networking problems?09:32
markumani have problems to install ubuntu without a cd on a notebook.09:32
digitalgraffitilakcaj is there a way I could find out what drivers are included?09:33
markumanmy bootloader option for that are here: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/benutzer:markuman on top09:33
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, module = driver in linux.  The snd_emu10k1 module is the driver09:33
theeilPaul_BigDaddy: what's the networking problem?09:33
markumanError 27: unrecognized Command09:33
Xplohow can i update a kernel for ubuntu09:33
Xploanyone?09:33
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Xploi need to do this man09:33
Xplonobody is answering09:33
theeilXplo: compile a new one09:33
Xplohow09:33
lakcajXplo, do you want to compile your own kernel, or download a newer one and install it.09:33
digitalgraffitiwell it's loaded then so I don't have sound due to the lack of alsaconf then?09:33
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Paul_BigDaddyI am using the LiveCD and I cannot find anyway to conect to the internet09:33
lsuactiafnerXplo : apt-get update then apt-get upgrade09:33
Xplodownload and install09:34
Paul_BigDaddyI tried the sudo pppconfig09:34
Xplook thanx lsuactiafner09:34
Paul_BigDaddybut all that gave me was a way to setup a dialup connection and not a DSL09:34
QuinthiusDoes Synaptic keep a log of packages installed? all i can find is /var/log/aptitude but that seems to be from the initial install09:34
theeilPaul_BigDaddy: use pppoeconf09:34
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XorlevI'm having problems with my system...mainly it hard-freezing, which I believe can be attributed to the kernel. Would upgrading my kernel to a breezy kernel help? If so, how would I go about that without upgrading the rest of my system?09:34
expenseis there a way i can chmod a directory to be writeable, but not deletable?09:34
expense?09:35
Paul_BigDaddyoooh....oops09:35
Paul_BigDaddyshit09:35
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Paul_BigDaddyit's always something simple. Have you noticed that?09:35
jc-dentonwill the new ubuntu release include beagle?09:35
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theeilPaul_BigDaddy: ya09:35
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Paul_BigDaddyOK, I am going to try the LiveCD again. Might be back in a bit09:36
Paul_BigDaddythanks09:36
Pyfim using a "sony cav-u5" usb to optical converter for my audio, it works in most programs and ubuntu recognises it09:36
Pyfbut vlc doesnt09:36
Pyfhow can i set it up so it does?09:36
Xanthus7I thought the command to turn on dma was  hdparm -d /dev/hdb what am I doing wrong09:36
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jc-dentonand what pdf viewer will it include09:38
xTinaHm. Has "Open Terminal" when right-clicking the Gnome desktop been removed in breezy on purpose?!? Or is it just a bug?09:38
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lakcajexpense, if I can write to it, I can replace everything with zeros, which is essentially deleting it.09:38
jc-dentonor better is there already a list with feautures, packages, etc?09:38
benplautgot an pretty major dilema here...09:39
lakcajdigitalgraffiti, I really don't know what to say for your problem.  I've been trying to help ubuntu users, since ubuntu is so similar to debian, but one thing that just confuses me is the absence of alsaconf.09:39
benplautwhen i try to start gnome from GDM, it hangs with a blank (GDM background sloid color) screen, with the mouse working09:39
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benplautand it just stays that way...09:40
lakcajXanthus7, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb09:41
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lakcajXanthus7, what you posted just has hdparm show whether or not dma is on09:41
Xanthus7what is the command to turn it on please09:42
vader1102<----BBQ time, time for me to go and have some sort of meat!09:42
lakcajI just told you, above my last post09:42
lakcajXanthus7, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb09:42
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Xanthus7Got them thank you09:43
expenseis there a way i can chmod a directory to be writeable, but not deletable?09:44
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lakcajexpense, if I can write to it, I can replace everything with zeros, which is essentially deleting it.09:44
theeilexpense: why do you need to do that?09:46
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expensetheeil: for an ftp, i want users to be able to upload in an assigned directory09:46
expensebut not be able to delete anything09:46
kenroHakuna Matata sahib.09:47
Dr_Willisthat would be a feature of the ftp server - i belive.. not chmod actually09:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYNEW FOAMY goto www.illwillpress.com09:47
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Dr_Willisive seen many ftp servers that hav3e an imcomming dir.09:47
XorlevI'm having problems with my system...mainly it hard-freezing, which I believe can be attributed to the kernel. Would upgrading my kernel to a breezy kernel help? If so, how would I go about that without upgrading the rest of my system?09:47
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lakcajexpense, I think what you are looking for is umask.  I found that out from someone in #debian, but I had a hunch that's what it was.09:48
kenroMy first time with ubuntu... Are there alternative repos available for Ubuntu? Could I use any from Debian?09:48
theeilkenro: sure, it DOES use apt-get09:48
kenrookie09:49
kenrotheeil: Even apt-get.org?09:49
theeilkenro: look in the wiki for howto09:49
kenrookie09:49
mumblesdose anyone know of a free ftp software that will allow a user to view differ direcotrys on a ubuntu server?09:50
CarlFKXorlev - I wouldn't jump that way yet.09:50
CarlFKreboot, hit Esc when prmoted, pick memtest86+ and let that run for a few passes (may be hours)09:51
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chrismyanyone here knows how to use xvid?09:51
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dalamaranyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh09:53
jc-dentoni checked the wiki but i couldn't find it09:53
kvidelldalamar: What's your monitor's native resolution?09:53
webby`HELP! I try to oprn synaptics and I get this error: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header09:53
webby`How do I fix this?09:54
dalamarkvidell, native? i dunno, it goes up to 1600x1200 though for sure09:54
theeiljc-denton: could not find what?09:54
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jc-dentonor better is there already a list with feautures, packages, etc?09:55
jc-dentonerr09:55
Paul_BigDaddyhey, I made it back. Only I am actually in Ubuntu this time09:56
mumblesdose anyone know of a free ftp software that will allow a user to view differ direcotrys on a ubuntu server?09:56
jc-dentonwell i want to know which pdf viewer will be used, if beagle will be included in the next ubuntu release09:56
webby`HELP! I try to oprn synaptics and I get this error: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header09:56
webby`open*09:56
Paul_BigDaddymumbles - what about FileZilla?09:56
mumbleshavent tired that09:57
webby`Nevermind09:57
webby`I got it working now09:57
Xplohow can i install my ati drivers?09:57
Paul_BigDaddyIt's made by Mozilla, so you know it's good09:57
DVSoftware!ati09:57
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx09:57
Xploati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i38609:57
Xplook thanx09:58
DVSoftwareNo problem09:58
Paul_BigDaddyPlus, it works similar to their other products09:58
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dalamaranyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh09:58
Xploow ive done that already DVSoftware09:58
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Xplobut i downloaded the drivers from the side myself09:58
Xplohow can i install those09:58
DVSoftwareread documentation on ati's website09:59
mumblespah09:59
mumblesnot working. realy dont want to start up a samba server09:59
hamourabihi09:59
thrice`when is breezy preveiw due ?09:59
hamourabineed help10:00
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thrice`hamourabi: try asking a question =] 10:00
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hamourabiok10:00
XploDsoftware10:00
DVSoftware?10:00
Xplowhat do i need to do with the driver i downloaded10:00
Xploits a .run file10:00
Paul_BigDaddyOK, I have a question...how do I tell Ubuntu to mount a drive?10:00
thrice`sh file.run10:00
hamourabii am install realplayer and he put shrtcat in besktop but he don work10:01
Xplothanx10:01
DVSoftwareXplo: for god's sake do not install driver yourself10:01
pcharkyHi, I've got some problems with my tvcard (pinnacleptctv rave 'saa7134'). The video is quite okay, but the audio is terrible, lots of static. Any suggestions?10:01
thedevilsjesterOk I am trying to compile wine from source (because I cant seem to add it to my repositories), and I get  "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" error.  Now I dev on this box and I have compiled many apps so my c compiler is just fine10:01
Xplook DVSoftware10:01
thedevilsjesterAnyone know what could be the problem?10:01
DVSoftwareXplo: use ubuntu packaged driver10:01
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: sudo apt-get install build-essentials10:02
Xploi did10:02
Xploi used your link10:02
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, it cannot find that package10:02
DVSoftwareoh10:02
thedevilsjesteror meta package as it is10:02
DVSoftwaresorry build-essential10:02
DVSoftwarewithout "s"10:02
Xplothen i guess its good now?10:02
DVSoftwareXplo: if you followed wiki page, it should be ok10:03
DVSoftware!info build-essential10:03
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB10:03
Xplook DVSoftware10:03
hamourabithrice?10:03
Xploim gonna install Wine Now10:03
Xplotry to10:03
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, still the same error after build essentials is installed10:03
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thedevilsjesterI have compiled many apps since install, I know my c compiler is working just fine10:04
DVSoftwarehmmm10:04
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: i've compiled wine from source many times10:04
DVSoftwareit should be fine10:04
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thedevilsjesterthis is during config10:05
pcharkythedevilsjester: do you have write access in the directory you're compiling in?10:05
Paul_BigDaddyHow do I tell Ubuntu LiveCD to mount a Windows Partition?10:05
thedevilsjesterits not compiling yet10:06
thedevilsjesterits still ./configure10:06
thedevilsjesterI have the log outup10:06
thedevilsjesteroutput*10:06
Xplohow can i install wine DVSoftware10:06
pcharkythedevilsjester: configuring then.10:06
hamourabimy realplayer dont work10:06
Xploi just downloaded it10:06
DVSoftwareXplo: sudo apt-get install wine10:06
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Xplook10:06
thedevilsjesteryes I tried as sudo10:06
thedevilsjesterand as su10:06
K-Richls /- /devhdc110:06
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: did you tried wine_install script ?10:06
thedevilsjesterno where is that gotten?10:07
DVSoftwarein tools directory10:07
Xplodoesnt work DVSoftware10:07
masterlokihi there it seems that some repos are broken10:07
thedevilsjesterlog says:   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc10:07
thedevilsjesterright before it exits10:07
masterlokidoes anybody knows wich do I need to install MPlayer10:07
masterloki??10:07
Xplopacket wine doesnt exist10:07
pcharkyXplo: apt-cache search wine10:07
hamourabiany one help me to get my ealplayer work10:08
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hamourabirealplayer*10:08
Paul_BigDaddycome on, I know someone knows this...mount Windows Partition in Ubuntu10:08
pcharkyXplo: it's in universe10:08
CarlFKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto10:08
Xplopcharky, what do u mean10:08
Xplothe code u gave me doesnt work tho10:08
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: reinstall gcc10:09
DVSoftwareit should do the trick10:09
pcharkyXplo: I mean the wine package is in the universe repository.10:09
DVSoftware!info wine10:09
Xplook, and how do i install it10:09
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB10:09
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pcharky!repositories10:09
uboturumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:09
Xploi downloaded it already,10:09
Xplocant i just install it then?10:09
DVSoftwareXplo: if you downloaded it from winehq.com10:10
DVSoftwareyou have to compile it10:10
Xployes i did10:10
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Xplook, how10:10
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thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, I found the inital problem (CC isnt set to gcc), dont know where to set that 'for good', but it ran into another (probably related) issue further on10:10
DVSoftwarewell, it's long story10:10
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DVSoftwarejust apt-get it10:10
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DVSoftwarethedevilsjester:10:10
Xploapt-get doesnt work10:10
pcharkyXplo: better stick to apt (keeps your system nice and tidy).10:10
Xploi told you10:10
DVSoftwareset CC to gcc10:10
PuffballI just installed Ubuntu, and I'm having trouble locating my NTFS directories, is there a standard location in the extfs file system, or do I need to mount it?10:10
DVSoftwareXplo: you have to add repositories10:10
Xplook, how10:11
pcharkyXplo: listen to ubotu10:11
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MrGardenHoseManAnyone know how to make a 512 meg Cruizer micro usb drive work?10:11
pcharky!repositories10:11
uboturepositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:11
DVSoftwarePuffball: you need to mount it10:11
MrGardenHoseManit just won't mount more some reason10:11
khaije1i got one,... whats the word with adding debian unstable to apt sources?10:11
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, yes but how do I set that var for good?  I export it in the console but that doesnt last beyond that session10:12
tearis there a flahplayer for the "x86_64\" architecture?10:12
DVSoftwareermmm... dunno10:12
khaije1i thought it was trivial but was just recommended against it strongly10:12
DVSoftwaretear: nope10:12
tearnow that really sux10:12
DVSoftwaretear: you can install10:12
PuffballDVSoftware, I'm more of a linux n00b if anything, could you tell me the easiest way to mount it? lol10:12
DVSoftwarefirefox and flash plugin in chroot10:12
DVSoftwarePuffball: mount /dev/hdx /media/windows10:13
DVSoftwarewhere /dev/hdx is your partition10:13
hamourabimy realplayer dont work10:13
DVSoftware/media/windows dir must exist10:13
tearfrom where DVSoftware?10:13
DVSoftwarehamourabi: use helix player ;)10:13
DVSoftwaretear: you can install firefox and flash in chroot10:14
DVSoftware32bit chroot10:14
hamourabibut he don play mp310:14
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pcharkyhamourabi: does xmms play mp3?10:15
DVSoftwarehamourabi: why do you want to play mp3 in propertiary player10:15
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thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, I guess it doesnt really matter anymore, wine wont compile (I got it to configure though)..10:15
DVSoftwarethere are much better players10:15
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: what's the error?10:15
hamourabixmms also dont work10:15
Puffballthanks, DVSoftware10:16
DVSoftwarehamourabi: define "don't work"10:16
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware,  alot of these10:16
thedevilsjester{standard input}:283: Error: `12(%esp)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression10:16
thedevilsjesterit compiles fine on my 64bit gentoo box though...10:16
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: well... wine can't compile on 64bit arch10:16
DVSoftwareyou have to compile it in chroot10:16
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, yes it can10:16
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, I compile it just fine on my 64bit gentoo box10:16
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, without a chroot10:17
hamourabii can not see the xmms in my sound and video mine10:17
PuffballDVSoftware: I type 'mount /dev/hda /media/windows' and I get 'mount: only root can do that' -- I don't think root is even enabled10:17
DVSoftwarePuffball: sudo10:17
pcharkyhamourabi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:17
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: acccording to wine weekly issue, i don't think it's possible10:17
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, its been compiling on my gentoo box for a good long time, so it is possible, maybe portage adds some patches that are not in the official tree10:18
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, is there a way to get wine in my apt list so I can get 32bit binary of it?10:19
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: probably, or maybe it compiles it in 32bit compatibility10:19
CarlFKhow can I see what options were used to compile the kernel ubuntu uses?10:19
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, no it doesnt10:19
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: chroot10:19
dalamaranyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh10:19
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, I mean a precompiled apt binary10:19
DVSoftwarei think it will not work10:19
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, why wouldnt it? I have 32bit cedega and crossover running just fine10:20
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, on this ubuntu box10:20
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, without chroot10:20
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DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: yes but i think that wine is dinamically linked to some stuff10:21
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, crossover and cedega 'are' wine10:21
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: yes they are10:21
DVSoftwarebut they are statically linked10:21
Xplook i installed wine now10:21
Xplobut where can i open it10:21
DVSoftwareXplo: it's command line app10:22
pcharkyXplo: man wine10:22
DVSoftwarewine windowsapp.exe10:22
topylihow do you install rhythmbox plugins? this is just a bunch of python files10:22
Xplook10:22
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dalamarapps -} run app -} 'wine'10:22
thedevilsjesterXplo, you can also set it to auto run wine when you double click an exe10:22
thedevilsjestermuch easier that way10:22
Xplocool10:22
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: yes it is, but he will not see debug messages10:22
DVSoftwarewhich are very useful sometime10:22
Xplohm10:23
Xplo:p10:23
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thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, only if he plans on submiting bug reports which most dont :p10:23
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: not really10:24
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alfzer0would anyone like to lend me some help with a module compilation/installation problem I have that stems from having to use a diff version of gcc?10:24
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: sometime, dll is missing, and wine will report it in console10:24
pcharkyi'm off.. bye10:24
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DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: i'll try to compile wine in 64bit now10:25
DVSoftwarebut i doubt it will compile10:25
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thedevilsjesterall I know is that it 'does' compile 64bit in my gentoo box, even before I had -multilib in my use flags10:25
mjrDVSoftware, won't work10:25
mjr(winelib, dunno)10:26
Xploim on the ubuntu desktop10:26
Xplohow do i get there in terminal10:26
holycowhey guys, is the ubuntu server config based on the 6 month freeze cycle of debian?  silly question but i need to make sure :)10:26
thedevilsjesterXplo, cd ~/Desktop10:26
Xplook thnx10:26
hamourabiDVSoftware, may I paste?10:26
dooglusin breezy I have a symlink: "/usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.0".  what is the recommended way to get g++ to be linked to g++-3.3 instead?10:27
hamourabiHappyFool, here dude?10:27
DVSoftwarehamourabi: in private message10:27
HappyFoolhamourabi: just returned10:27
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dalamaranyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh10:27
mjrdalamar, happen to have a matrox g450?10:28
dalamarnope10:28
hamourabiHappyFool,  wb, and still in the xmms thingie :(10:28
mjrdalamar, even close?10:29
dalamarno, geforce mx2 32 bit10:29
HappyFoolhamourabi: you still don't see xmms in synaptic?10:29
mjrok, no idea10:29
dalamarand i cant find any google info on it ;/10:29
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hamourabiHappyFool: I dont.10:30
HappyFoolhamourabi: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin?10:30
HappyFoolhamourabi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:30
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: how did you resolved checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables10:31
hamourabiokey hol.10:31
PuffballDVSoftware: I type 'mount /dev/hda /media/windows' and I get 'mount: only root can do that' -- I don't think root is even enabled <- I'm not sure if you saw this before I pinged out10:31
hamourabihold10:31
DVSoftwarePuffball: just sudo it10:31
thedevilsjesterexport CC=gcc10:31
HappyFoolDVSoftware: you trying to compile 32-bit stuff on an amd64 ?10:32
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PuffballDVSoftware: does root even have a password? because I tried my password to the initial account, and either way, it won't let me switch via sudo10:32
DVSoftwareuse your pass10:32
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hamourabiHappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/190210:32
tearDVSoftware, could you give me a quick help on how to fix that flash player for "x86_64\" architecture?10:32
DVSoftwaretear you have to install it in 32bit chroot10:32
DVSoftwarehmm10:33
DVSoftware!chroot10:33
ubotuchroot is, like, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457510:33
mirakI have seen on gentoo that they use 32bits libs10:33
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dooglusPuffball: root's password is locked.  when you 'sudo' the password it asks for is your user's password, not root's10:33
DVSoftwareHappyFool: something like that10:33
DVSoftware!root10:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:33
dooglus!gcc-3.410:33
ubotudooglus: What?10:33
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dooglus!alternate-versions10:34
ubotudooglus: I don't know10:34
SuperIDwhere do I change the systemwide $PATH?   I changed it in /etc/profile but the new edits do not show for users or root, even after a reboot10:34
HappyFoolhamourabi: you haven't enabled the 'main' repository10:34
dooglusdoes anyone?  know how to switch between alternate versions of things?10:34
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hamourabiHappyFool: when I reload the synaptic manager many failers in downloading10:34
HappyFool!tell hamourabi about repos10:34
HappyFoolhamourabi: the second link in what ubotu just sent you has an example sources.list10:34
HappyFoolhamourabi: if i were you i'd just cut and paste that into your source.list, using 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'10:35
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DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: wine won't compile10:35
DVSoftwareHappyFool: how to force architecture to 32bit when compiling things?10:35
hamourabiHappyFool: okey10:35
thedevilsjesterDVSoftware, try with -m32 flag?10:35
DVSoftwareahh... wait10:35
DVSoftwaresame10:36
HappyFoolDVSoftware: you need gcc-4.0, lib32gcc1  -- do a CC=gcc-4.0 for the compiler. and yes, you need the -m32 compiler flag (try CFLAGS=-m32)10:36
DVSoftwareah10:36
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HappyFoolDVSoftware: disclaimer: i don't have an amd64 but this worked for someone else on #ubuntu earlier ;)10:36
Xplowhere is xchat located?10:37
dooglusSuperID: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf is the file you need.  edit 'DefaultPath' and 'RootPath'10:37
Xplocos i downloaded a file10:37
Xploand need to pen it10:37
Xploopen10:37
DVSoftwarechecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables10:37
DVSoftwareHappyFool: that's the error i get10:37
thedevilsjesterexport CC=gcc10:38
HappyFoolDVSoftware: have you tried compiling a simple 'hello world' style program with -m32 ?10:38
DVSoftwarei have gcc-4.0 and lib32gcc110:38
dooglusXplo: xchat is /usr/bin/xchat10:38
DVSoftwareHappyFool: nope10:38
tearDVSoftware, forgive my lack on knowllage but.. how?10:38
Xplook dooglus10:38
DVSoftwaretear:10:38
DVSoftware!chroot10:38
ubotumethinks chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457510:38
HappyFoolDVSoftware: i'd recommend doing that first, instead of screwing around with ./configure scripts. removes a level of uncertainty10:38
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hamourabiHappyFool: ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates10:38
hamourabideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted10:38
hamourabideb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:38
hamourabideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted10:38
hamourabi## The source pacakges10:38
hamourabi#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted10:38
hamourabi#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:39
DVSoftwarehamourabi: don't paste here10:39
hamourabi#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted10:39
HappyFoolhamourabi: don't paste here, c'mon10:39
hamourabi## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates10:39
hamourabideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse10:39
dalamaranyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh seems to only be with some codecs or something too, some videos play okay?10:39
hamourabideb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe multiverse10:39
hamourabideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates universe multiverse10:39
hamourabi## The source pacakges10:39
Xploand where are the files, downloaded with xchat ?10:39
hamourabi#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse10:39
DVSoftwareXplo: in your home10:39
DVSoftwarein hidden dir10:39
DVSoftware.xchat210:39
Xplook10:39
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Xplohm, linux cant open rars?10:40
mjrit's not linux's business to open rars, it's unrar's10:40
PuffballDVSoftware: mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist <- after playing around, I really couldn't get past this10:40
HappyFooltry the unrar-nonfree package; it's in multiverse10:40
DVSoftwarei told you to create that directory first10:40
Puffballyou did? @_@10:41
DVSoftwareyes10:41
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Xplohow do i do that HappyFool10:41
HappyFool!tell Xplo about repos10:41
Xplomultiverse??10:41
Xploi installed repos10:42
HappyFoolXplo: read the first link ubuto sent you; it should explain10:42
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Xploah ok10:42
HappyFoolXplo: then look for unrar-nonfree in synaptic10:42
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Xplowhats the link again10:42
XploOk10:42
HappyFoolhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:42
Xplok10:42
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DVSoftwareHappyFool: can i paste to private message10:43
SuperIDdooglus:  thx!   found and fixed it10:43
DVSoftwarejust few lines10:43
HappyFoolDVSoftware: go for it10:43
HappyFoolDVSoftware: err, just a sec10:43
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HappyFoolhamourabi: you manage to get it working?10:44
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Maikeruyay10:44
Maikerugot a wireless card that...WORKS!10:44
Xploi dont see multiverse10:44
matthew_wWhy do my mplayer and totem crash when I open movie files?10:45
Xploi dont see multiverse in the lIst :S10:45
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HappyFoolXplo: which list is that? in synaptic?10:45
QuinthiusXplo: i think you have to add multiverse repo's yourself10:46
Xployes HappyFool10:46
XploQuinthius, how10:46
uthiniguys, i'm having bluetooth issues, i can't reconnect my cellphone to my PC, have a photo that i wanna send across10:46
HappyFoolXplo: in that case, it may be easiest to edit your sources.list directly10:47
QuinthiusXplo: well, on the repository list, click add, then click custom, then enter something like this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:47
tearDVSoftware, what exactly is the chroot anyway?10:47
HappyFoolXplo: an example sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:47
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HappyFoolXplo: you can use 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to edit the file10:48
HappyFoolXplo: Quinthius' advice will work too. multiverse *should* be in the list; read the wiki again carefully and make sure you've followed the instructions10:48
Xplowhich one do i need10:48
dodderdoes ubuntu have an inbuild firewall ?10:48
HappyFool!firewall10:48
ubotusomebody said firewall was Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.10:48
DVSoftwaretear: just read10:48
DVSoftware!chroot10:48
ubotuchroot is probably at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457510:48
Maikeruhey10:49
Maikeruwhat is the command10:49
Maikeruto scan for networks?10:49
Xplodeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:49
Maikeruiwconfig wlan0 spy or somethin?10:49
Xploshould i try that ?10:49
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matthew_wCan you use the non "ubuntu" versions of programs in ubuntu?  In otherwords, can I get GAIM 1.5.0 instead of Gaim 1.1.4UBUNTU ?10:50
Maikerunvm10:50
Maikeruiwlist wlan0 scan10:50
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QuinthiusXplo: it works fine for me!10:50
Xplook then ill do it10:50
dodderHappyFool, i can't relly seem to locate that frontend... just wanted to check if some ports are blocked... having a problem using bittorrent10:50
QuinthiusXplo: you might could remove the "us." part10:50
HappyFooldodder: by default the firewall is disabled10:51
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Xplook i added10:51
dodderHappyFool, where would i enable it then ?10:51
dodderjust in case..10:51
HappyFooldodder: by installing firestarter10:51
Xploits done now :)10:51
Xplohow can i open the rar now?10:51
HappyFooldodder: you can install firestarter with synaptic; i haven't used it myself.10:52
HappyFoolXplo: try the 'unrar-nonfree' command?10:52
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Xplook10:52
dodderHappyFool,  thanks :)10:52
matthew_wWhen I try to uninstall the version of Gaim I have installed, it attempts to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" file... why?10:52
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Xplobash: unrar-nonfree: command not found10:52
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mindmedicXplo, its "unrar"10:53
PuffballDVSoftware: is there anyway to make NTFS partition writable through Ubuntu?10:53
Xplobash: unrar: command not found10:53
mindmedicXplo, now that you installed unrar-nonfree you can open rar archives with file-roller10:53
DVSoftwarePuffball: write support for ntfs drives is still experimental10:54
mindmedicXplo, install unrar-nonfree10:54
DVSoftwareit's dangerous10:54
theeilPuffball: you can write, but not change the size of files ;)10:54
Puffballah10:54
HappyFoolXplo: try 'dpkg -L unrar-nonfree|grep bin/' to find out the command10:54
LasseLPuffball, but you can make ext3 writable from windows10:54
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PuffballI see10:54
Xploi need to install unrar idd but how10:54
DVSoftwarePuffball: there is a way10:54
DVSoftwareto write on ntfs drive10:54
theeilPuffball: it's eayser to just use fat3210:54
odatanyone know how i completely remove gnome?10:54
DVSoftwarewith captive ntfs driver10:54
PuffballRight now, I'm just trying to copy all of my NTFS contents to ext310:55
Xplook HappyFool10:55
Xplobut how do i install unrar?10:55
Puffballand its not really working.10:55
HappyFoolXplo: didn't you install the unrar-nonfree package from synaptic?10:55
Maikeruhey10:55
mirakHELP :) . I sstill have this bug of the X server. I though that firefox was the cause, but it's not10:55
theeilXplo: does sudo apt-get install unrar not worl?10:55
Xplono HappyFool10:55
Maikeruhow do I find out if I have a texas instruments, atheros, broadcom, etc. chipset?10:55
Xploill try10:56
HappyFoolXplo: you'll need to do that to get the program ;)10:56
mirakit's a problem with the nv driver for nvidia cards10:56
mirakI have a 6600gt, and there is a display problem10:56
BeFalouI did a dist-upgrade and now X doesn't start, nothing shown in Xorg logs... I'm on breezy10:56
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tristanmikeSo I go to this website http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A//heavyhitters4life.tripod.com/&ei=cF8bQ7eoEaeOiAG3r4SADA  And it closes ALL of my firefox windows. Anybody else, and/or why? :)10:57
Xplowhere can i select it HappyFool10:57
Xploin synaptic10:57
LasseLPuffball, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html (looks stable, but I havn't tried it)10:57
HappyFoolXplo: in the package list in synaptic10:57
matthew_wHey there - is it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?10:57
HappyFoolXplo: there should be a long list (~15000) packages to choose from10:57
HappyFoolXplo: i'm sure you can figure it out ;). I'm off to bed. good night all10:57
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BeFaloucould comeone help me please? I really don't know what to do10:58
Puffballthanks, LasseL10:58
GnonthgolI got an old Toshiba Satellite with a Pentium 133MHz, how to make it faster?10:58
Xplook configured it :p10:58
odatanyone know a good way to completely remove gnome?10:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYthrough it in the garbage and buy a new laptop10:59
Xplobut how can i open the rar now?10:59
thrush_2Gnonthgol, you have ubuntu running on it now?10:59
Gnonthgolodat: why dont you install the server version?11:00
dodderwhat is the zlib package called, and why does it complain about me not having it? i think it's there though...11:00
Gnonthgolthrush_2: yes11:00
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Xplohow can i install the rar now?11:00
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ttyS0Xplo, sudo apt-get install unrar11:01
thrush_2Gnonthgol, Im assuming you arent running gnome?11:01
Xplook11:01
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Xplodid that ttyS011:02
Xploand how do i install the rar now?11:02
elvirolohi all11:02
elvirolodoes anyone use breezy ?11:02
PuffballDoes anyone know if VMware run on Ubuntu at all?11:02
ttyS0Xplo, install?11:02
Gnonthgolthrush_2: actuly I am, that is the point of the computer11:02
Xployes ttyS011:02
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: i've found a way11:02
ttyS0Xplo, what do you mean? :)11:02
tdnI have both Windows and Ubuntu on my machine. When I boot up in Windows, the time is not correct. It is 2 hours behind. How do I fix this? I know you'll probably say, that this is a Windows issue, but its not. I think it is because in Linux the time is set to GMT or something like that. I just don't know how to change it. I have tried tzconfig.11:02
thrush_2Gnonthgol, I would go with fluxbox or blackbox on that laptop myself11:03
DVSoftwareyou have to install  ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev11:03
Xploi downloaded a rar file, and want to install it now11:03
Xplounpack first :p11:03
ttyS0Xplo, unrar file.rar11:03
BeFalouomg, Xorg started!11:03
ttyS0in console, of course11:03
DVSoftwaretdn: change timezone11:03
Xplook11:03
DVSoftwareyou can do it from gnome11:03
tdnDVSoftware, hmm... But the timezone is correct in both Windows and Linux.11:03
DVSoftwareright click on your clock11:03
DVSoftwarehmm11:03
DVSoftwareare you sure?11:03
elvirolo are, by any chance, python-wxgtk2.6 and gstreamer0.8-musepack broken?11:04
tdnDVSoftware, 100 percent.11:04
elvirolo(in breezy)11:04
tdnDVSoftware, as said. I think it has something to do with GMT11:04
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Xplohow do i get in desktop again?11:04
DVSoftwarethedevilsjester: but there is another problem11:04
Xploin terminal11:05
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tdnDVSoftware, during ubuntu install I think that I said yes to "Is your computers clock set to GMT". I should probably have said no.11:05
jman888Hello?11:05
DVSoftwaretdn: dunno11:05
BeFalou/etc/X11/X is not executable, anyone knows about it?11:05
DVSoftwarei don't use windows11:05
Xplohow do i get in desktop again?11:05
Xploin terminal11:05
jman888I need help. Why cant i hear Sound from a video in Vlc11:05
Xplocd ~Dekstop or smthng11:05
Xplodunno11:05
ttyS0Xplo, cd ~/Desktop11:05
Xployea :p11:05
Xploextracting failed11:06
Xplo:S11:06
chninkelDVSoftware: you can edit /etc/default/rcS and change UTC=yes to no11:06
jman888Hello?11:06
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tdnWhich packages has something to do with time. I have to dpkg-reconfigure one of them. It's the one that controls something with GMT.11:07
ttyS0Xplo,  may be archive is too new (unrar can't extract too new archives)11:07
Xplo:S11:07
Xplohow can i unpack it then?11:07
Xplounrar11:07
dodderif i like have installed another window manager, in what conf file do i change witch window manager x chooses, when it startsup ?11:07
Dr_Williswinrar and wine works for me.11:07
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Dr_Willisdodder,  normally you select it from the GDM menus.11:07
dodderDr_Willis, GDM menus?11:08
misfit_toywhat is the file to edit to add e17 to the choices on gdm?11:08
Dr_Willisdodder,  yes. the GDM login tool has several menus/options.11:08
DVSoftwarettyS0: unrar-nonfree11:08
DVSoftware!info unrar-nonfree11:08
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB11:08
Dr_Willisyou would make a new SOMTHING.desktop entry for gdm to read misfit_toy11:08
XplottyS0,11:08
Xplohow do i unrar then?11:08
Xploif its too new11:08
misfit_toyDr_Willis, in what dir?11:08
dodderDr_Willis, speak english :/11:09
Dr_Willisie: icewm has 'icewm.desktop" i think. and every other wm has a similer entry.11:09
DVSoftwareXplo: install unrar-nonfree11:09
Maikeruhey11:09
Xploi did that too DVSoftware11:09
Dr_Willismisfit_toy,  i forget. :P its in /etc/somwehere11:09
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DVSoftwarehmmm11:09
Maikeruhow do I figure out if I have like Prism 2/2.5/3, Atheros, etc.?11:09
Xplowhats the command to unrar with taht11:09
chninkeltdn: launch base-config to reconfigure time11:09
ttyS0Xplo, DVSoftware says to you11:09
dodderDr_Willis, i really don't get what you are talking about :/11:09
tdnchninkel, ok. Thanks.11:09
DVSoftwareXplo: unrar, but did you removed unrar first?11:09
Xplono11:09
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Dr_Willisdodder,  the gdm LOGIN screen wher ya enter your name and password has SEVERAL options and menus you can select and chagne things.11:09
chninkeltdn: bout you will have to answer to other questions11:09
Xplodidnt remove anythng11:09
Dr_Willisdodder,  explore the login screen. :P11:10
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DVSoftwareXplo: remove unrar and reinstall unrar-nonfree11:10
Xplook, how11:10
dodderDr_Willis,  okey then... and gdm is like the gnome login screen, righto ?11:10
Dr_WillisGDM = Gnome Desktop Manager11:10
Dr_WillisKDM = KDE's Desktop Manager.11:10
Dr_WillisXDM = the original desktop mnager.11:10
Xplohow can i remove11:10
dodderDr_Willis, righto think i got it now.. i'll try, thanks :=)11:10
XploDVSoftware,11:10
DVSoftwareXplo: through synaptic11:10
Xplo,ok11:11
tdnchninkel, Yes. It was what I was looking for. Thanks.11:11
benplautanyone here use perlpanel?11:11
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tdnWhich type of key should I generate with ssh-keygen to get the most secure key?11:12
tdn - And how many bits?11:12
MaikeruHello11:13
MaikeruWhat is the link to the list of all the cards and their chipsets?11:13
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GnonthgolAnyone got the idea of a flash or something that emulates the ubuntu installer?11:14
DVSoftware???11:14
BROKEN_LADDERI just got this thing when i booted that said something like "press ctrl-d to continue"  how do i fix that so it just boots?11:14
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thenukeBROKEN_LADDER: I think that you have the needed commands on the screen11:15
thenukeBROKEN_LADDER: it should tell you something about umm.. fsck too11:15
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thenukemaybe after pressing ctrl-d if not else11:15
!lilo:*! Hi all. You may be aware that Interdictor's project is here on freenode ( http://www.nola-intel.org/ && http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ ), providing information on the state of New Orleans, Louisiana and the folks evacuated from it during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina11:15
thenukecant remember. off to sleep.11:16
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matthew_wIs it possible to upgrade software in ubuntu.  What I mean by this is - Firefox, thunderbird, gaim, all use OLD 1.0.4 releases when like 5.0 is available in each of them because they are the "ubuntu releases"11:16
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thrice`matthew_w: you are running stable ubuntu, remember; it only updates security risks, not all software11:17
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tdnMy console dialog boxes look very wierd in X. Screenshot: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/Screenshot-2.png. How to I get them to look good in both the console and in X?11:17
matthew_wthrice`; so again - is there some way to upgade say gaim, which is currently running 1.1.4ubuntu to 1.5.0 ?11:17
kemikmatthew_w:  by enabling backports11:17
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kemik!backports11:17
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:17
!lilo:*! Their main channel is #interdictor and #interdictor-chat is available for discussion. I'm doing this wallops message because they need your help. If you'd like to assist, please stop by #interdictor-training .... thank you!11:18
thrice`matthew_w: i heard you the first time.11:18
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matthew_wkemik; what do you mean by backports?11:20
matthew_wthrice`; I didn't mean to repeat, it's just I didn't quite get your response.11:20
thrice`matthew_w: yes; that will update SOME of the commonly used packs11:20
thrice`check packages.ubuntu.com11:20
kemikmatthew_w:  read what ubotu said11:20
matthew_wOh!  There it is.11:20
matthew_wThanks.11:20
thrice`tha twill tell you exactly what is in backports at the moment11:20
thrice`otherwise, you might think about running breezy (the pre-release of ubuntu, which updates packs all thetime); however, breezy is very unstable at the moment11:21
thrice`so, backports for the time, and possibly breezy when things stablalize11:21
matthew_wIs it safe/stable to run backports?11:21
thrice`matthew_w: yes; they are officially supported now11:21
thrice`matthew_w: however, things do take a little time; for example, gaim 1.4.0 is in backports; it's closer, but not quite 1.511:22
matthew_wOk11:22
matthew_wThanks.11:22
DVSoftwarewell11:22
DVSoftwareit's stable for me11:23
DVSoftware23:22:51 up 2 days,  1:49,  2 users,  load average: 0.22, 0.23, 0.2511:23
thrice`however, firefox 1.0.6 is in, along with xchat 2.4.4, thunderbird 1.0.611:23
bmmHi. I've got a small question for the ubuntu web administrators. Would you consider adding P2P links to files to your website? (ed2k, Magnet, GNUnet)11:23
thrice`DVSoftware: yes, I think preview is coming up soon11:23
DVSoftwarebmm: what are u talking about?11:24
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thedevilsjesterHow long does it take for the pressed CDs to get to you usually? (ubuntu ones)11:24
thrice`thedevilsjester: couple months11:24
benplautthedevilsjester, mine took almost 4 months11:25
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bmmDVSoftware: Most Peer to peer networks allow for a spacial hash to identify a file on the network. So if I wanted to download the right ubuntu CD image, it would need the hash.11:25
thedevilsjesterhm maybe ill just download the 32bit ones, 64bit is still not ready :p  thought maybe it would be on a precompiled os but doesnt seem to be...11:25
thrush_2about the time of a release cycle =(11:25
bmmHowever, without a seed node, the changes are the hash based link won't work.11:25
DVSoftwarebmm: why don't you download from ubuntu mirror?11:25
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benplautyikes... XFCE is a Fitt's Law catastrophy11:26
fblade1987guys can i ask an favour, can you tell me why unbuntu takes so long booting in, it hangs at "configureing network interfaces" when it never use too11:26
bmmCould simply do that, but that would be taking bandwidth of a precious project ;-)11:26
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bmmDVSoftware: It would be the seem as bittorrent, but without having to run a tracker.11:27
swab79isnt there an official torrent?11:27
benplautfblade1987, are you on a laptop, with WiFi?11:27
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BROKEN_LADDERdammit..it appears my home was accidentally created as ext3 instead of reiser.11:28
BROKEN_LADDERfor months i haven't noticed this.11:28
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mcrandellodoes anyone know what package contains libxslt.pc?11:28
GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: lol11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay/video.jsp?id=lord_rhymes&ratingBarExclude=0&preplay=1&brand=11:29
BROKEN_LADDERlol?11:29
BROKEN_LADDERreiser is so much more advanced.11:29
swab79well if you didnt notice for months how important can it be?11:30
aruthats what I was thinking :)11:30
Gnonthgol! find libxslt.pc11:30
tear!chroot11:30
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Gnonthgol11:30
ubotumethinks chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457511:30
bmmswab79: You might get problems when you want to add special modules ;-)11:30
tristanmikeCan anyone use their MSN accounts under default Gaim right now, I lost it and can't seem to get it back, wondering if anyone else is having the same problem :)11:31
Gnonthgolubotu: find libxslt.pc11:31
tristanmikegetting error at the "sending cookie" phase11:31
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libxslt.pc' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/libxslt.pc) in libdevel/libxslt1-dev.11:31
Xappetristanmike: msn is quite flaky nowadays11:31
tristanmikeXappe, nowadays? ;)11:31
mcrandelloooh thx11:32
Xappetristanmike: as aleays :)11:32
Xappe*always11:32
swab79tristanmike: no problem here11:32
tristanmikecrap11:32
BROKEN_LADDERsomething happened when i just did apt-get upgrade, and now i get no sound. :(11:32
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tristanmikeswab79, thanx11:33
GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: you found the way to silence to11:33
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BROKEN_LADDER:(11:33
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BROKEN_LADDERi have these weird modules now with snd in them11:33
BROKEN_LADDERones i don't recognize11:34
tristanmikewhat's a "Reading error" in Gaim?11:34
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moomindaddyhiya, is there a way i can auto mount a windows partition?11:34
BROKEN_LADDERsnd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx11:35
Gnonthgoltristanmike: It means that Gaim neads google, :-D11:35
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tristanmikemoomindaddy, run this script http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:35
tristanmikethank Seveas for that11:35
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tristanmikeGnonthgol, hey, can i use msn accounts through google talk?11:36
Gnonthgoltristanmike: I dont know11:36
tristanmikeGnonthgol, cool11:36
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moomindaddyerm i did it before tristan, but now it says permission denied (new install)11:36
stoeptegeltristanmike: i know psi can :)11:37
moomindaddyah fixed11:37
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike why would you use google talk in gaim?11:37
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike google talk uses closed jabber servers.11:37
BROKEN_LADDERgoogle is also one of the most evil companies next to m$11:37
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, ummm, because there is no google talk for linux?11:37
DVSoftwaretristanmike: any jabber client will do11:37
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike why would you use google talk?11:37
moomindaddydont spose any of you have tried ultima online in ubuntu?11:38
moomindaddy(with wine etc)11:38
stoeptegeli've a problem: azureus keeps complaining for write access, how do i automaticly give azureus 775 permissions?11:38
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike you can just get an open account on a real jabber server.11:38
Maikeruyay11:38
Maikerumy wireless connection works11:38
GnonthgolAnyone know what grumpy and perky repos. are?11:38
Maikeruso time to fix it >:)11:38
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike and if you want free voip, just get linphone which supports _sip_11:38
BROKEN_LADDERthe real standard for voip11:38
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, I'm lost dude, I've just used MSN and Yahoo my whole life, I'm still uber-new11:38
BROKEN_LADDERthat you can use to call real hard sip phones.11:38
GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: or just use skype11:38
BROKEN_LADDERno.11:38
BROKEN_LADDERskype is bad11:38
BROKEN_LADDERskype does not support open standards.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERskype will die, the question is when.11:39
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud11:39
BROKEN_LADDERuntil it dies it will just slow the adoption of real standards.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERonce sip has pervaded the market, there will be no need for skype.11:39
GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: skype is smart and sells skype out etc.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERi have an sip phone on my desk.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERcall it with skype.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERoh wait, you can't.11:39
BROKEN_LADDERbut you can call it with linphone.11:40
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike google talk just uses  the jabber standard.11:40
kemik#ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?11:40
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike you can get a free jabber account on jabber80.com or jabber.org for instance, that will work with any other open jabber servers.11:40
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_nitroboyhello11:40
mcrandelloanyone compile wine's cvs with ubuntu recently?11:40
BROKEN_LADDERso you could still talk to people on other jabber servers.11:40
TritisAnyone know to make gnucash have a readable font?  I think it's using gtk1 font which is all mushed together.11:40
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DVSoftwaremcrandello: me11:40
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike with google talk, you can only chat with jabber users that are on google talk.11:41
mcrandelloyou get anything to run on it without throwing unhandled exception errors?11:41
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, I just wanna chat with my friends on my MSN list, boo hoo11:41
tristanmikelol11:41
NitroBoyhey11:41
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike you could just put your google talk account in and then get a "real" jabber acocunt too, so you have both.11:41
DVSoftwaremcrandello: yes11:41
PyfOMG OMG OMG OMG http://www.imperialconflict.com/board.php?board=1&topic=6&thread=1229677&last=1125872863 best thing ever lioke11:41
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike then why do you want to put your google talk account into gaim?!11:41
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NitroBoycan i ask for help here?11:41
mcrandelloany tips? I've tried every version of wine, winex, cedega, the version that wt2 dude reccomends, nothing works right it seems11:42
GnonthgolNitroBoy: yes11:42
NitroBoyok...11:42
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, I....don't.....know, to make a new list and add all my friends in case my MSN account doesn't work? I think that's it. :)11:42
NitroBoyits a pretty popular problem i guess11:42
NitroBoybut how do i add unlisted resolutions11:42
NitroBoyit will only allow it to set upto 1024x76811:42
NitroBoyand i did add the refrates for my monitor11:42
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike your msn account will work in gaim.11:43
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike make sure you install off-the-record messaging.11:43
tristanmikeyay, I have a new error telling me the MSN servers are temporatily unavailable.11:43
NitroBoyi just got on *:)*11:43
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/11:43
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, off-the-record?11:43
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike perhaps.11:43
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike it's encryption plus deniable authentication and perfect forward secrecy.11:43
tristanmikeplugin?11:44
BROKEN_LADDERit's _the_ encryption plugin.11:44
BROKEN_LADDERyup.11:44
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i make my system use the right sound modules for my card?11:44
BROKEN_LADDERi did an apt-get upgrade and now sound doesn'n work, and the loaded modules look wrong11:44
tristanmikeI don't have the plugin11:45
BROKEN_LADDERisn't there something like slackware's rc.modules that i can look at and find the right line to uncomment?11:45
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike you get it.11:45
BROKEN_LADDEReither via apt-get or just download the source and compile it.11:45
BROKEN_LADDERit's easy.11:45
tristanmikeok, tank11:45
tristanmikes11:45
BROKEN_LADDERit's awesome.11:45
tristanmikedon't have it in synaptic, and don't know how to compile from source, still learning the basics11:46
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disasmBROKEN_LADDER: you can append the module name to /etc/modules11:47
Pyfim using a "sony cav-u5" usb to optical converter for my audio, it works in most programs and ubuntu recognises it11:47
Pyfhow can i set it up so it does?11:47
Pyfbut vlc doesnt11:47
Pyfread 3rd line 2nd, lol...11:47
lsuactiafnerhow well does the MA301 nergear wireless card work in nix?11:47
disasmlsuactiafner: whats the chipset?11:47
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DanielHolthhey ubuntu11:48
DanielHolthwhat's up11:48
disasmhey DanielHolth11:48
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DanielHolthbreezy badger is being basically benevolent by my overview.11:48
DanielHolthbut my power surged athlon xp 1600+ motherboard is flakier than a delicious pastry.11:49
DanielHolththey should be cheap now?11:49
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DanielHolthdo you think there are pci-e motherboards for that old socket?11:49
lsuactiafnerdisasm Hermes in PLX9052 based PCI adaptor support11:49
lsuactiafnerits in the kernel.. but want to know from someone that runs that hardware..11:50
kevogodIs there any reason that I would get unaccelerated graphics on an i686 kernel when I am using the same xorg.conf as on the i386 kernel?11:50
kevogod(fglrx driver)11:50
disasmlsuactiafner: hermes should work fine then11:50
dtamasI need a subtitle adjuster program on Ubuntu. Know anybody a cool one?11:50
BROKEN_LADDERdisasm where is it getting the sound modules it has currently loaded then?11:50
disasmBROKEN_LADDER: my guess is hotplug11:50
lsuactiafnerdisasm : experimental driver...11:50
BROKEN_LADDERdisasm isn't there a file in ubuntu where it lists virrtually every module commented out?11:50
DanielHolthAnd for some reason hotplug drive mounting isn't working in KDE. Should it?11:50
CarlFKis there a kernel parameter I can pass that will turn the cpu fan on?11:50
BROKEN_LADDERand you can find the right line and uncomment it11:50
BROKEN_LADDERi don't even know the module name for the ichc5 sound device11:51
lsuactiafnerCarlFK : if you your fan aint running put it off now11:51
CarlFKit's off11:51
CarlFKit = laptop11:51
kevogodLet it run for hours with Doom 3 on.11:51
lsuactiafnerheh11:51
lsuactiafnerwhat cpu?11:51
CarlFKP2-23311:51
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disasmBROKEN_LADDER: i dont know, possibly, i tend to go straight to the source: cd /lib/modules/<kernel-vs>/sound/pci; ls11:51
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lsuactiafnerheh dont know about intel11:52
lsuactiafnerfor amd you install powernowd11:52
lsuactiafnermight work..11:52
lsuactiafnerbut for intel no idea11:52
CarlFKthe good news is something detectes it, loggs "critical temp reached.  shutting down" to /var/log/messages.  then it shuts down11:52
DanielHolthAlso major props to ubuntu for recognizing my Apple keyboard's volume keys! That was so cool.11:52
DanielHolthOnly in gnome so far though.11:52
mcrandelloI had a p60 you could cook omelettes on the case. It was beautiful.11:52
DanielHolth(not an apple machine)11:52
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diemanhey11:53
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diemandoes anyone know how to break a broken openoffice.org2 spell check?11:53
BROKEN_LADDERdisasm you mean ../kernel/sound/pci11:53
diemanthe bug report doesn't really have any good info, either...11:53
disasmBROKEN_LADDER: yeah11:53
DVSoftwarehow to break a broken?11:53
DVSoftwarehmmmm11:53
diemanbreak11:54
diemanfix, i mean :)11:54
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud11:54
sorush20guys.. the auto update doesn't work in firefox. I keep getting the message that there are updates available but I can't see the list and when I click on the forward button to update it just hangs and isn't downloading anything.. I'm using ubuntu firefox.. 1.0.6 can someone help please..11:54
diemanFigured it out11:55
diemann/,m11:55
disasmsorush20: well, you need to be root for firefox to auto-update itself (it's not like windows where anyone can access firefox's folder...)11:55
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disasmsorush20: theres better ways to update firefox though, like wait till ubuntu makes an update and install via synaptic11:56
diemanhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=32083111:56
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moomindaddyanyone have a more filled out sources.list please?11:56
sorush20disasm: I want to be able to auto update the extensions its not working....11:56
BROKEN_LADDERi'm going to try a reboot.11:56
BROKEN_LADDERthis is desperation talking11:56
disasmsorush20: ah, i see, never tried before11:57
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sorush20Guys I'm unable to update my extensions in firefox.. can someone help please.11:58
mcphailDoes anyone know how to change the default hashing of passwords (eg from DES to MD5 for example)?11:59

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