[12:00] <noirequus> apokryphos: there's a thread?
[12:00] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, what does that say?
[12:00] <transparentdream> hold on
[12:00] <apokryphos> noirequus: indeed; notes the nooms repository etc too
[12:00] <apokryphos> noirequus: hi, by the way =)
[12:00] <pnoman> damneinstien: What does smbclient -L '\\server-name\' give you (you need to enter a password also for this to work)
[12:00] <transparentdream> Driver		"ati"
[12:00] <transparentdream> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[12:00] <disasm> damneinstien: ah, firewall ;-) firestarter work pretty good? i've never used any of the gui firewalls
[12:00] <noirequus> fixin to go to  work
[12:00] <Gnonthgol> transparentdream: the same with mine
[12:01] <thellama> i opened /usr/share/xsessions... now what?
[12:01] <transparentdream> hmmmm
[12:01] <transparentdream> well wjhy cant i run games then?
[12:01] <damneinstien> disasm: well, firestarters pretty good but i dont seem to be able to add a rule to allow incoming/outgoing conection from samba
[12:01] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, that looks like it should work but not give you any accelleration.  What do you mean when you say you can't run games?
[12:01] <apokryphos> thellama: please check the thread you were provided with; it will walk you through exactly what you have to put in etc
[12:01] <damneinstien> pnoman: actually i found out what the problem is.. its firestarter not letting the other computer access ports...
[12:02] <transparentdream> i mean any sort of acceleration. Gnometris works, etc. but nothing like tuxracer
[12:02] <damneinstien> pnoman: but i can't add a rule to let other computers access smb client. (all rule options are grayed out)
[12:02] <pnoman> damneinstien: Good... that was what we were about to test, by going down and up. Congrats!
[12:02] <transparentdream> screen savers are very very slow and freeze up
[12:03] <pnoman> damneinstien: Sorry, cannot help you with the firewall (am not using that one here). And I have to go anyway; still work to do and it's getting late here. Sorry... but good luck.
[12:03] <damneinstien> pnoman: thanks for ur help : )
[12:04] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, in that case you might well want to install the ATI fglrx driver, gimme a mo on that one
[12:04] <pnoman> damneinstien: cu.
[12:04] <stein> Hi! What key stops the boot timeout in the grub boot menu ? I set a very short timeout and it always goes into the default selection, I can select the others...
[12:04] <urbanfox> stein: Escape
[12:04] <transparentdream> mo?
[12:04] <urbanfox> and any key stops the menu timeout
[12:04] <stein> urbanfox: sure? I tries holding it and it did not work.
[12:04] <urbanfox> don't hold
[12:04] <urbanfox> press
[12:04] <urbanfox> tap
[12:04] <urbanfox> it needs to see a change in keystate I believe
[12:05] <stein> when ? I said I have a very short timeout. The monitor is dark, because of the reolution switch
[12:05] <urbanfox> just keep tapping the up and down keys
[12:05] <stein> tried that too :-)
[12:05] <urbanfox> hrm
[12:05] <urbanfox> that's odd
[12:05] <stein> OK, I'll try again :-(
[12:06] <mcphail> #join ##linux
[12:06] <damneinstien> disasm: what firewall do you use?
[12:06] <stein> mcphail: talking to me ? I was there, no help.
[12:06] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, moment, I think this might be what you are looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28fglrx%29
[12:06] <mcphail> nope - slip of the key
[12:06] <Gnonthgol> PlanarPlatypus: thanks
[12:07] <stein> bye
[12:07] <PlanarPlatypus> Gnonthgol, no problem :-)
[12:07] <transparentdream> Thank you! I'll let you know when i install it
[12:10] <disasm> damneinstien: it should have something to do with policy in the firestarter page (I have my own custom iptables script running on my servers, and my desktops/laptops i don't bother running a firewall
[12:11] <geneo93> disasm:  did you use ipkungfu
[12:11] <disasm> geneo93: no i haven't, whats it?
[12:11] <juanej> Why im getting "ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms." when using quod libet?
[12:12] <FR500> hello
[12:12] <FR500> has anyone been able to compile bmpx?
[12:12] <geneo93> its for setting up iptables
[12:12] <crimsun> sure
[12:12] <crimsun> bmpx compiles fine under breezy
[12:13] <PlanarPlatypus> juanej, do you know what motherboard and ethernet card you have?
[12:13] <juanej> PlanarPlatypus, Pcchips for motherboard and a sis etherenet card
[12:13] <pef> bye !
[12:15] <transparentdream> AHH
[12:15] <transparentdream> ok
[12:15] <transparentdream> the driver works
[12:15] <transparentdream> but i cant change screen resolution now
[12:16] <geneo93> man you have to love mplayer playing file i'm dling from bt and it just skips to next piece
[12:16] <PlanarPlatypus> juanej, what sound card?
[12:16] <juanej> sis 7018
[12:16] <transparentdream> PlanarPlatypus, this is what it says when i try to change the screen resolution now
[12:16] <transparentdream> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[12:18] <D1> where are these bmpx skins coming from?
[12:18] <PlanarPlatypus> juanej, not sure then I am afraid, the only problem I had like that was with a VIA onboard soundcard and was apparently a kernel bug, seems to be fixed now though so I am afraid I have no idea
[12:18] <geneo93> xmms are the same skins
[12:19] <PlanarPlatypus> transparentdream, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5357 says it better than I can
[12:20] <geneo93> winamp 2 skins work also
[12:20] <urbanfox> they do?
[12:20] <styles`> can someone help me out
[12:20] <transparentdream> ok thx
[12:21] <styles`> im trying to install ubuntu but it configures grub wrong
[12:21] <geneo93> yes
[12:21] <styles`> i need to manually edit grub.conf but have no idea how to get to it since it isnt booting
[12:21] <geneo93> styles`:  use the live cd
[12:22] <PlanarPlatypus> does anyone know if there is a way to get evolution to apply filters to all messages in a given folder rather than just to the incoming messages
[12:23] <styles`> geneo93, i am using the live cd i think
[12:23] <styles`> lol
[12:23] <styles`> which one is the live cd
[12:23] <geneo93> hehe just forward them all to yourself
[12:24] <D1> new breezy splash screen is kinda iffy
[12:24] <D1> too dark
[12:24] <geneo93> the one that says it is
[12:24] <z0unds> how do i start bittornado from console??
[12:25] <PlanarPlatypus> geneo93, heh, the idea is tempting but hopefully there is a better way of doing it
[12:25] <styles`> geneo93, im dwonloading the livecd as we speak, will the livecd allow me to install ubuntu?
[12:25] <Stalwart> no
[12:25] <Stalwart> you need install cd to set up ubu to your computer
[12:25] <styles`> will it let me edit grub.conf?
[12:25] <geneo93> PlanarPlatypus:  not that i know of
[12:26] <Stalwart> Stalwart, yes, it will do
[12:26] <geneo93> styles`:  no
[12:26] <styles`> grrrrrr
[12:26] <Stalwart> geneo93, ?
[12:26] <styles`> ok so how can i fix grub
[12:26] <thrush_2> D1, you dont want to keep the reg splashcreen anyway, personalize your computer man =)
[12:26] <geneo93> yes to second question
[12:26] <styles`> uhmmmmmmmmmm
[12:26] <styles`> sooo
[12:27] <styles`> the live cd will allow me to edit the current filesystem that ubuntu has installed
[12:27] <styles`> ?
[12:27] <Stalwart> styles`, yes
[12:27] <styles`> ok thanks
[12:27] <styles`> guys confused me there for a sec
[12:27] <styles`> yes no yes no
[12:27] <styles`> lol
[12:27] <geneo93> styles`:  you cnat install with livecd and you can edit grub with it
[12:27] <styles`> ok
[12:27] <styles`> hopefully i get it to work
[12:27] <geneo93> styles`:  ask one question at a time
[12:27] <styles`> i hate grub so bad
[12:28] <styles`> answer one question at a time =P
[12:28] <jroes> hi, does anyone know how I can allow multiple simultaneous X users to login?
[12:28] <geneo93> i did
[12:28] <jroes> for instance, instead of me logging out to let a friend on, I can "switch user" to them
[12:29] <geneo93> jroes:  i can do that in some distros dont know about ubuntu
[12:29] <jroes> it's probably not distro-specific.  I'm betting it has something to do with my wm
[12:30] <benplaut> !menu
[12:30] <ubotu> benplaut: What?
[12:30] <PlanarPlatypus> geneo93, ah, the problem being that there are about 500 of them......
[12:30] <geneo93> jroes:  that could be
[12:30] <disasm> geneo93: ipkungfu looks ok, i don't like any firewall that locks me out of all networking, even after I uninstall it, but it might not be bad for someone not familiar with iptables. doesn't appear to have any ipsec vpn support though
[12:30] <geneo93> PlanarPlatypus:  i only use 4 here
[12:30] <meeep> geez, kde is horrid, back to gnome for me :O
[12:31] <GranMaestro> meeep: I couldn't agree more :D
[12:31] <jroes> geneo93: assuming that's the case, how do you normally configure this?
[12:31] <geneo93> meeep:  turn all the crap off
[12:31] <meeep> GranMaestro, geez, i really DID try it out, but hell, wtf, geez, omfg ( im so upset right now :P )
[12:31] <thrice`> anyone running breezy and ATI ?
[12:31] <PlanarPlatypus> geneo93,I mean mail messages, I am currently looking for a bulk forward but I am thinking this is not the best idea
[12:32] <Stalwart> will ubuntu somewhen have minimum install?
[12:32] <geneo93> click on menu and switch users
[12:32] <FLD> HEY tell me MP3 player that works in console
[12:32] <Stalwart> FLD, mpg123
[12:32] <geneo93> PlanarPlatypus:  i was j/k
[12:32] <FLD> Stalwart didint fint in apt-get
[12:32] <Stalwart> FLD, mpg321
[12:32] <PlanarPlatypus> geneo93, ah
[12:32] <PlanarPlatypus> geneo93, heh, fair enough
[12:33] <PlanarPlatypus> I just achieved the same thing with vfolders infact
[12:33] <PlanarPlatypus> so no worries
[12:33] <thrush_2> Stalwart, you mean other than server install?
[12:33] <delire> FLD: 'play'
[12:33] <geneo93> i have done that before just for spamassin
[12:33] <FLD> tell me MP3 player that works in console and is at apt-get
[12:34] <delire> FLD: of course that's not a jukebox. i like pytone very much
[12:34] <FLD> not in apt-get
[12:34] <FLD> no mpg321 or pytone
[12:34] <delire> FLD: it takes 10 minutes to go through a few hundred mp3's but once it's built a database it's worth it.
[12:35] <apokryphos> !info mpg321
[12:35] <delire> FLD: perhaps in universe/multiverse
[12:35] <Stalwart> thrush_2, yes, like server, but lighter
[12:35] <ubotu> mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[12:35] <geneo93> FLD:  then you dont have all the repos enabled
[12:35] <apokryphos> FLD: it's in Universe. Enable the repository, and you're good to go.
[12:35] <FLD> wtf
[12:35] <FLD> what repository
[12:35] <apokryphos> !repositories
[12:35] <FLD> how
[12:35] <ubotu> I guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:35] <disasm> PlanarPlatypus: i've never used evolution, but is there something like run filters in a menu somewhere?
[12:35] <FLD> i dont have mozilla
[12:35] <FLD> i cant look
[12:35] <apokryphos> FLD: you don't have any browser?
[12:35] <FLD> no i dont
[12:36] <GranMaestro> Hi everybody, pls don't bash me for asking but.. what is the actual developer release for Ubuntu?
[12:36] <FLD> i dont have graphics
[12:36] <apokryphos> FLD: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line with "Universe" in it.
[12:36] <apokryphos> :/
[12:36] <FLD> ok
[12:36] <Stalwart> GranMaestro, Breezy Colony 3
[12:36] <GranMaestro> Stalwart: where can I get a copy?
[12:36] <apokryphos> Stalwart: not Colony 3, of course
[12:36] <Stalwart> GranMaestro, 3 sec
[12:36] <apokryphos> and you can get later builds
[12:36] <benplaut> !breezy
[12:36] <ubotu> methinks breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[12:36] <PlanarPlatypus> disasm, unfortunately no but the effect can be achieved with a vfolder and just performing the action on everything in there
[12:36] <benplaut> nope
[12:36] <GranMaestro> tahks a ton folks.. :D
[12:37] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: it's not recommended that you install it...
[12:37] <apokryphos> but: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com (you can grab a daily build from there)
[12:37] <GranMaestro> apokryphos: very buggy?
[12:37] <thrush_2> FLD you have lynx?
[12:37] <froggy365> i have a compaq R4000 with an amd 64, but it just goes to a black screen after about 10 seconds
[12:37] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: at times; you can muck up your system.
[12:37] <disasm> PlanarPlatypus: well, what format is the mail in? if it's mbox you could probly write a short procmail script to filter it one time only
[12:37] <benplaut> how do i start another xserver in tty8? [breezy] 
[12:37] <froggy365> cant get it do run live cd
[12:37] <Stormx2>  /quit and /exit were sitting in a park. /exit left, so who was still sitting in the park?
[12:37] <disasm> benplaut: startx -- :1
[12:38] <benplaut> i mean, having 2 at once
[12:38] <GranMaestro> apokryphos: I have been using Ubuntu from the early days and prior to that Debian on my x486.. :D
[12:38] <froggy365> guys can you help me get it started
[12:38] <PlanarPlatypus> disasm, it is in whatever format evolution stores its mail in right now but I did managed to do the filtering with vfolders so all is happy and shiny again
[12:38] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: up to you, of course. If you don't know what you're doing you'll run into problems. Most these days are X-related.
[12:39] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: the respective packages haven't exactly been, perfected shall we say.
[12:39] <delire> froggy365: what's up?
[12:39] <delire> froggy365: not booting?
[12:39] <froggy365> i put the cd in to boot
[12:39] <froggy365> and it finds it
[12:39] <froggy365> i press enter
[12:39] <froggy365> then it goes through the white text
[12:39] <disasm> froggy365: does it boot the cd? if so, maybe try passing parameters like nousb noacpi nopcmcia, etc...
[12:39] <froggy365> and then goes black
[12:39] <FLD> how do i set mpg321 use alsa
[12:39] <froggy365> it sees the cd
[12:39] <delire> froggy365: ouch
[12:40] <froggy365> how do i use parameters?
[12:40] <disasm> froggy365: also i think the number 2 should get you at a bash prompt so you can see if it's X or not
[12:40] <GranMaestro> apokryphos: OK I shall wait than, just wanted to have a look at it. Today I booted from Hoary PPC live CD on my iMac and was real impressed about how everything went on real smooth
[12:40] <disasm> i dunno, is it linux for the livecd kernel?
[12:40] <froggy365> okay im at where it says boot:
[12:40] <delire> froggy365: when you see the boot prompt use the key mentioned for other options.
[12:40] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: nice =)
[12:40] <FLD> how do i set mpg321 use alsa?
[12:40] <disasm> try typing linux noacpi nousb nopcmcia 2
[12:40] <froggy365> yea i see other options
[12:41] <froggy365> okay
[12:41] <GranMaestro> apokryphos: even Airport detection and WEP encryprion were no problem at all .. ;-)
[12:41] <apokryphos> FLD: did you make *any* effort to find out?
[12:41] <disasm> or maybe it's ubuntu, not sure what the kernel name is on the live cd...
[12:41] <froggy365> lucky i have this computer right next to me
[12:41] <apokryphos> FLD: i.e. the man page
[12:41] <D1> yay! the networkmanager package works in breezy! =] 
[12:41] <D1> <3 ubuntu
[12:41] <FLD> apokryphos yes i did
[12:41] <FLD> i did mpg321 -a N alsa
[12:41] <FLD> and it didnt work
[12:42] <froggy365> it says could not find kernel image: linux
[12:42] <disasm> whats the difference between mpg123 and mpg321?
[12:42] <disasm> hmm, in the options does it tell you the kernel image name?
[12:42] <apokryphos> FLD: devicetype?
[12:42] <FLD> i donnoo
[12:42] <FLD> alsamixer works
[12:42] <dalamar> one plays mp3s forward the other plays them backward
[12:42] <GranMaestro> apokryphos: sorry to bother, where can I find some info as for the goals set for breezy?
[12:42] <dalamar> ;)
[12:43] <geneo93> dalamar:  haha
[12:43] <apokryphos> !breezygoals
[12:43] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, apokryphos
[12:43] <FLD> lets try alsaplayer
[12:43] <FLD> mpg321 suc
[12:43] <apokryphos> ubotu: breezygoals is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[12:43] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[12:43] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: there :)
[12:44] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: also check the !breezy factoid... it will provide you with a link for the differences between hoary and breezy
[12:45] <disasm> FLD: i just did mpg321 -o alsa <name_of_mp3>
[12:45] <Stalwart> !breezy factoid
[12:45] <ubotu> Stalwart: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:45] <Stalwart> ubotu, yes
[12:45] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, stalwart?
[12:45] <apokryphos> Stalwart: omit the "factoid"
[12:45] <Stalwart> ?
[12:45] <apokryphos> !breezy
[12:45] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[12:46] <apokryphos> (is the "breezy" factoid)
[12:46] <dalamar> october 1st or what?
[12:46] <apokryphos> 13th
[12:46] <dalamar> i see
[12:46] <GranMaestro> !breezy factoid
[12:46] <ubotu> GranMaestro: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:46] <dalamar> ...
[12:46] <Stormx2> haha
[12:46] <Xanthus7> what is ubuntu 5.04 powerpc
[12:46] <GranMaestro> ubotu: :D
[12:46] <ubotu> GranMaestro: Are you on ritalin?
[12:47] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[12:47] <ubotu> thanks stormx2 :)
[12:47] <dalamar> XandriX, ubuntu hoary for macs
[12:47] <dalamar> or powerpc based systems
[12:47] <Xanthus7> ok
[12:47] <froggy365> tried all that stuff, you have to type live at the beginning tho instead of linux
[12:47] <froggy365> but it goes black
[12:47] <apokryphos> GranMaestro: no "factoid" needed, of course.
[12:47] <GranMaestro> yup yup thaks folks
[12:48] <froggy365> what if id try the non amd-64 version?
[12:48] <GranMaestro> !breezy
[12:48] <Xanthus7> can some one give that web address for fixing grub again
[12:48] <dalamar> cant wait for breezy and newer libc .. have been tempted to try it but everything works now heh
[12:48] <Xanthus7> I know there is qt4 in breezy I need that for a program to run
[12:50] <FLD> HEY how do you start alsaplayer to textmode
[12:52] <Stormx2> start it in terminal?
[12:53] <disasm> FLD: i don't think you can
[12:53] <FLD> disasm well i fucking apt-getted alsaplayer-text
[12:53] <FLD> so i can
[12:53] <FLD> :<
[12:53] <pauldaoust> hey, folks... I'm looking for some LAN-savvy people here...
[12:53] <geneo93> alsaplayer (file)
[12:53] <disasm> ah, alsaplayer-text ;-)
[12:53] <apokryphos> FLD: language, please.
[12:53] <FLD> its not alsaplayer-text
[12:53] <FLD> mpg321 does not have interface
[12:54] <pauldaoust> I've read a lot about single-sign-on and LDAP and Radius and Kerberos and Active Directory... but I'm wondering, which of these would *you* use?
[12:54] <disasm> FLD: yup that does the trick ;-)
[12:54] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[12:54] <ubotu> :)
[12:54] <FR500> hello
[12:54] <disasm> FLD: apt-get remove alsaplayer-gtk
[12:54] <pauldaoust> I'm deploying a school-wide Ubuntu network (yep, every computer Ubuntu except the secretary and the principal), and I want kids to be able to access their account at any computer.
[12:54] <apokryphos> FR500: aloha!
[12:54] <FR500> is usplash better than splashy?
[12:55] <pauldaoust> would anyone be able to recommend the best way? I'm thinking pam_ldap or pam_sql
[12:55] <pauldaoust> (I'm more familiar with SQL, and I can't seem to get OpenLDAP working properly on Ubuntu)
[12:55] <apokryphos> FR500: I thought they were the same thing :/
[12:55] <apokryphos> just different versions
[12:55] <pauldaoust> FR500: where'd you get your nick?
[12:55] <FR500> oh
[12:55] <pauldaoust> looks familiar
[12:55] <FR500> pauldaoust: it's a car
[12:56] <apokryphos> Breezy is going to use usplash, apparently.
[12:56] <FR500> a 302 sn95 Mustang concept
[12:56] <disasm> pauldaoust: is this using ltsp?
[12:56] <pauldaoust> FR500: ahhhhhh gotcha. just asking 'cuz at RadioShack we sell a radio called FR500
[12:56] <FR500> apokryphos: ok!
[12:56] <pauldaoust> disasm: naw... I had the idea that LTSP was just for thin clients (i.e., without sound or moving video)
[12:56] <pauldaoust> disasm: am I wrong?
[12:57] <FR500> apokryphos: i thought usplash was more like the gentoo live cd thing, with that gorgeous splash boot, splashy can't have animations and things alike yet afail
[12:57] <disasm> you can have sound i believe, i haven't messed with it yet, but i've been considering setting it up, and having an old laptop in the kitchen as a client
[12:58] <apokryphos> FR500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//USplash
[12:58] <FR500> pauldaoust: i dont' really now about what you wanna do but sounds interesting, what do you mean by accounts (what does account include for instance)
[12:58] <FR500> or it's just the login name
[12:58] <Stormx2> Why is the ubuntu wiki secure?
[12:58] <disasm> pauldaoust: id say audio works - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A//www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165&ei=gyoaQ6f-CrrIigHioPjbCw
[12:59] <disasm> errr, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165
[12:59] <pauldaoust> disasm: hey, that's pretty nifty
[01:00] <pauldaoust> disasm: hmmmm... I'm looking at LTSP, and thinking, the server is pretty low-powered too... as low-powered as all the other clients.
[01:00] <disasm> pauldaoust: you sound pretty intelligent? ever setup a postfix mail server with amavis? I'm having problems with spamassin not leaving headers (but it appears to be running)
[01:00] <disasm> pauldaoust: ah, yeah, that would be a reason not to do ltsp
[01:00] <pauldaoust> disasm: I think I'll just stick to centralised authentication for now.
[01:01] <pauldaoust> disasm: postfix with amavis... yeah... I did... once upon a time. But I used it with a program called Bogofilter, as opposed to SpamAssassin
[01:01] <fadrian> I've tracked my sound problem to the issue where the system isn't seeing any sound device on my intel 815 chipset.  The output from lspci should have both an AC97 compatible sound device at pci addr 1f.5 and a model at 1f.6, but neither of these are showing up.  Any clues?  Here's the lspci output:0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 04)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 05)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:01:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
[01:01] <fadrian> 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[01:01] <disasm> pauldaoust: something like this? http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/pamnss.shtml
[01:01] <pauldaoust> fadrian: best to paste that info into the #flood channel
[01:01] <Lebanon> I've heard you ship ubuntu cd's to my home ?
[01:01] <disasm> fadrian: can you please not paste?
[01:02] <fadrian> OK.  Sorry
[01:02] <fadrian> didn't know
[01:02] <thrush_2> guys anyone know offhand what repo flashplugin-nonfree is in? checked universe and multiverse
[01:02] <pauldaoust> disasm: do you mean that SpamAssassin doesn't add the spam-specific headers? or are you wanting it to rewrite the subject header?
[01:02] <ompaulAFK> fadrian, or use pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:02] <pauldaoust> disasm: or does SA just strip headers out entirely?!
[01:02] <disasm> pauldaoust: spam-specific headers
[01:03] <pauldaoust> disasm: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:03] <apokryphos> fadrian: read the /topic before you talk in a channel
[01:03] <fadrian> thanks for the pointer.  I will do so...
[01:03] <thrush_2> well universe
[01:03] <thrush_2> nm
[01:04] <pauldaoust> disasm: can you paste the contents of your spamassassin config file?
[01:04] <disasm> pauldaoust: this shows fine, but no spam: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at mlnai.com
[01:04] <pauldaoust> disasm: (to a pastebin of course ;) )
[01:05] <pauldaoust> disasm: that thingy you sent me is just what I'm looking for... now if only I could get OpenLDAP to work :-/
[01:05] <disasm> pauldaoust: it's completely commented, if I run spamassin <message> I get the correct headers, but amavis isn't getting it, you want me to paste my amavis config to pastebin?
[01:05] <pauldaoust> disasm: sure thing
[01:06] <pauldaoust> disasm: you're using amavisd for mail processing, rather than virus scanning, right?
[01:07] <FR500> apokryphos: do you think is installing the live dvd bootsplash too hard?
[01:07] <disasm> pauldaoust: yeah
[01:07] <apokryphos> FR500: eh?
[01:08] <pauldaoust> disasm: did you paste it into #flood?
[01:08] <FR500> apokryphos: splashy is nowhere as good eye candy as most live cd's bootsplashes
[01:08] <apokryphos> FR500: like which ones?
[01:08] <disasm> pauldaoust: http://pastebin.com/354007
[01:09] <FR500> apokryphos: for instance the gentoo one, also there is fc3 boot, it has a hideous theme but the whole idea is pretty good
[01:10] <pauldaoust> disasm: so you're pretty sure that it's amavisd and not some other part of the e-mail plumbing that's eating the headers?
[01:10] <volvoguy> quick question. i have an older server that someone gave me that has two SCSI drives in it. i left win2k (or whatever they had) on one, and installed hoary on the other. how easy is it these days to boot from software raid1 array if i decide to set that up?
[01:10] <Riskbreaker9> can someone help me figure out why totem movie player refuses to run on my compy?
[01:10] <fadrian> OK... Sorry about the etiquette FU.  Again, I'm not seeing PCI devices that should be sitting on my PCI bus past address 1f.4.  There should be an audio device on .5 and a modem on .6.  I have pasted the output of lspci, lspci -v, and lspci -vvv into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1880.  Any clues?
[01:10] <apokryphos> FR500: the gentoo one is..erm, colourful text
[01:11] <FR500> apokryphos: well yeah i guess it doesnt even use fb, but you don't see the text normally :D
[01:11] <Riskbreaker9> whenever i try to start it up, it gives me an error message saying "resource busy or not available.
[01:12] <disasm> pauldaoust: pretty sure
[01:12] <Riskbreaker9> doesn't seem like the docs or the webpage has anything that could help me fix that.
[01:13] <Fotinakis> hello all -- quick question: I came across some information that says that Ubuntu comes with 3180 packages by default, and maximally 16271.  Where are the rest of these packages? Is there an ISO somewhere to download or is it totally by apt?
[01:13] <pauldaoust> disasm: this is weird, this line here> $sa_tag_level_deflt = -999;
[01:13] <fadrian> My gut feel is that there's something in the usb system that's FU'ed and blocking anything past that because when I try to plug in a USB stick it doesn't seem to see that either...
[01:14] <pauldaoust> disasm: almost looks like amavis is able to tell SpamAssassin to not even bother rewriting or adding tags underneath a certain level. Try changing that line (incidentally, it's line 1121) and see what happens.
[01:14] <pauldaoust> disasm: (change the line to $sa_tag_level_deflt = 5.0 , which is a number that works great for me)
[01:14] <disasm> pauldaoust: here is a snippet from my log file: http://pastebin.com/354012
[01:14] <Lebanon> guys you know how much it will take time so the cds will be shipped?
[01:15] <Riskbreaker9> no one knows anything about this?
[01:15] <Lebanon> I can make an agent for you, heh, I have a netcafe many ppl comes in here ..
[01:15] <disasm> pauldaoust: i originally had it at 5.0, and found a page on-line saying to set it to -999 for troubleshooting
[01:15] <pauldaoust> disasm: hmmmmmmmm!
[01:15] <volvoguy> Lebanon, I still haven't received my Hoary CD's, so it's hard telling.
[01:15] <pauldaoust> so you've tried that b4
[01:15] <disasm> yeah
[01:15] <pauldaoust> Lebanon: it took over a month to receive them; I'm in Canada
[01:15] <Fotinakis> anyone? (see question above) where to get the rest of the ubuntu packages?
[01:16] <volvoguy> Fotinakis, all the extra software you're referring to is in the universe repository, accessible via apt or synaptic.
[01:16] <pauldaoust> disasm: I'm scratching my head here... hm
[01:16] <Fotinakis> ty
[01:18] <pauldaoust> disasm: your logfile doesn't seem to imply that it's having any problems... and it also occurs to me that, if $sa_tag_level_deflt is set to a low number, it will paste info tags into any message, regardless of whether it's spam or not (it'll just show the score). Maybe try $sa_tag_level_deflt = 0.0; ?
[01:19] <FR500> i get this error when running apt-get update:
[01:19] <FR500> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:19] <FR500> how can i fix it?
[01:19] <MrNight> hello
[01:19] <MrNight> http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ << is this website official
[01:19] <FR500> MrNight: yes
[01:20] <MrNight> so the order is real ?
[01:20] <FR500> yes
[01:20] <FR500> and free
[01:20] <FR500> yes
[01:20] <pauldaoust> disasm: my suspicion is that amavis isn't even feeding messages to SA at all
[01:20] <MrNight> when I must expect to receive the CDS ? :D
[01:20] <funkyHat_> depends
[01:20] <pauldaoust> disasm: but I'm a little bewildered at the lack of error messages which would appear if amavis couldn't find SA, so maybe it's not even trying to use SA
[01:20] <funkyHat_> mine took about 2 months :P
[01:20] <pauldaoust> MrNight: same here
[01:21] <MrNight> ok
[01:21] <Fotinakis> is there a web site to browse the universe repository?
[01:21] <MrNight> I hope that I will receive them before I become gray
[01:21] <MrNight> hehe
[01:22] <FR500> When is breezy supposed to be out?
[01:22] <dalamar> oct 13th
[01:22] <funkyHat_> october the 13th
[01:22] <FR500> cool
[01:22] <FR500> MrNight: i never got my cds
[01:22] <MrNight> FR500 there is no backtrack
[01:23] <MrNight> looooooooooool
[01:23] <FR500> MrNight: they were lost or something
[01:23] <MrNight> haha
[01:23] <MrNight> :P
[01:23] <FR500> MrNight: weird though, my neighbor did get his
[01:23] <FR500> ?
[01:23] <MrNight> FR500 what if he got urs
[01:23] <MrNight> :P
[01:23] <FR500> no he didnt
[01:23] <FR500> we went to the post office to retrieve the packs
[01:24] <MrNight> aha
[01:24] <D1> does anyone use a bcmwl5 wireless card?
[01:24] <MrNight> ok
[01:25] <FR500> D1: that is a broadcom right?
[01:25] <D1> yeah.
[01:25] <mcphail> D1: i have one
[01:26] <FR500> i'm pretty sure there is a page on the wiki for it, since you need ndiswrapper (afaik)
[01:26] <D1> do you get proper signal strength readings?
[01:26] <D1> or does it always read 100%
[01:26] <mcphail> D1: 100%
[01:26] <D1> hmm
[01:26] <D1> guess it might be the card then.
[01:26] <mcphail> don't know. Haven't been bothered to tweak things...
[01:27] <FR500> i had a linksys with that chipset, i got normal readings all the time
[01:27] <Maikeru> D1, I think I have a tutorial on that bcmwl5
[01:28] <D1> to do what?
[01:28] <disasm> pauldaoust: heres the full log: http://pastebin.com/354023
[01:28] <Maikeru> http://www.technetra.com/writings/recent/ndis_wrapper_wifi_html
[01:28] <bobbyd> hi
[01:28] <Maikeru> D1 does anyone use a bcmwl5 wireless card?
[01:29] <Maikeru> If that's what you were asking for
[01:29] <Fotinakis> is there a web site to browse the universe repository?
[01:29] <D1> oh, no. I was just asking about the reading. I got it installed.
[01:29] <D1> thanks though.
[01:29] <disasm> FR500: the linksys also had proprietary code for that driver, rather than the ndiswrapper with windows driver ;-)
[01:29] <Maikeru> Wait
[01:29] <Maikeru> you did?
[01:29] <Maikeru> PM please
[01:29] <Maikeru> I need your help then
[01:29] <Maikeru> :)
[01:29] <bobbyd> what's the standard way to stop  services starting up that are installed? I'm looking at the ksysv editor but there are a lot of runlevels and I don't know if I can just remove things from there.
[01:29] <pauldaoust> disasm: hm, looks okay... do you know if any e-mail went through amavis during the recording of this logfile?
[01:29] <D1> I don't have a linksys though.
[01:29] <FR500> disasm: really??? maybe it's not the same chipset then....
[01:30] <D1> just the broadcom chipset.
[01:30] <pauldaoust> disasm: are you using fetchmail to get your messages, or is this computer your mail server?
[01:30] <disasm> pauldaoust: yeah, at the bottom
[01:30] <disasm> pauldaoust: this is the mail server
[01:30] <pauldaoust> disasm: hmmmmmmmmmm
[01:30] <pauldaoust> you're not gonna like me saying this, but I'm in over my head :-/
[01:31] <FLD> how do you write christmes
[01:31] <FLD> chrismes
[01:31] <pauldaoust> I followed a Gentoo HOWTO and it always just worked automagically for me
[01:31] <FLD> chrishmes
[01:31] <FLD> lol i dont remember
[01:31] <Chris_Note> christmas
[01:31] <bobbyd> FLD, it has to do with christ
[01:31] <bobbyd> supposedly
[01:31] <disasm> FR500: same chipset, they just only have binary "tainted" drivers for the MIPS arch i believe
[01:31] <disasm> pauldaoust: no problem, been getting that all day ;-)
[01:32] <theeil> i extracted rushing_bender and it takes up X when it runs (shows transparent full screen; i can't do anything but move my pointer)
[01:32] <pauldaoust> disasm: sorry :)
[01:32] <FR500> disasm: well i used ndiswrapper
[01:32] <fblade1987> can anyone give me a noobie guide on how to use bin files properly along with how to make files please?
[01:32] <Chris_Note> .. all this talk involving "chris" is triggering my nick alerter
[01:32] <theeil> fblade1987: what do you need to know
[01:32] <volvoguy> booting software RAID1 array with Hoary? anyone? :)
[01:32] <disasm> oh, duh, i was thinking of the linksys routers, i thought you meant the wrt54g, forgot about the fact they make cards too ;-)
[01:33] <FR500> oh
[01:33] <FR500> ok
[01:33] <FR500> :d
[01:33] <logrus> hi
[01:33] <volvoguy> i love my wrt54g. i wanna buy two more. :)
[01:33] <disasm> volvoguy: what firmware you running?
[01:33] <pauldaoust> does anyone have any recommendations on a centralised authentication system for a LAN, something that would achieve the same thing as ActiveDirectory in Windows?
[01:33] <volvoguy> disasm, just the latest from linksys.
[01:33] <FLD> bobbyd now gimme some of those cookies you have >:(
[01:34] <fblade1987> i need to know how to use bin so i can use/install programes aswell as how to fully use makefiels as i dont get at all how to us eit
[01:34] <disasm> volvoguy: ah, i thought maybe you were using an openwrt rom ;-) thats what made me love my linksys router
[01:34] <volvoguy> think i could get two of them talking 300 feet away if i have line of sight between them?
[01:34] <volvoguy> disasm, i may do that eventually to get things working the way i want. :)
[01:34] <disasm> volvoguy: don't you need a firmware mod to get it to bridge wireless?
[01:35] <volvoguy> disasm, i don't think so.... *loads the config page in browser*
[01:35] <pauldaoust> fblade: bin files are pretty simple, actually
[01:36] <theeil> fblade1987: by " use bin" you mean run files ;)?
[01:36] <pauldaoust> fblade: they're just an extension that some people like to use to signify an executable. I assume you've downloaded the Flash or nVidia installer or some other proprietary thingy?
[01:36] <theeil> binary files
[01:36] <bobbyd> FLD, ?
[01:36] <pauldaoust> fblade1987: just go chmod +x name_of_file.bin
[01:36] <pauldaoust> fblade1987: and then go ./name_of_file.bin
[01:36] <disasm> fblade1987: what kind of bin file? you can always ./somebin.bin to run it, but if your using java, your better off using java-package to set it up, and dpkg -i the resulting .deb file
[01:36] <FLD> >:I
[01:37] <mcphail> pauldaoust: really not something i know much about, but kerberos looks pretty solid. I'm sure it's not the easiest/best solution, though...
[01:37] <fblade1987> is there no way of using through the graphical desktop/
[01:37] <pauldaoust> mcphail: cool, I think I'll check it out. I've heard it mentioned a lot.
[01:37] <volvoguy> disasm, hmm. maybe you do. i wonder if a bridge is any cheaper than another wrt54g.
[01:37] <pauldaoust> fblade1987: incidentally, if the .bin file is an installer, you'll want to go sudo ./name_of_file.bin
[01:37] <fblade1987> ahh i'll try but i confused easy lol
[01:38] <mcphail> pauldaoust: there was a decent introduction in the SuSE admin manual. I haven't read further than that.
[01:38] <pauldaoust> fblade1987: after you go chmod +x name_of_file.bin, it should be clickable from Nautilus
[01:38] <pauldaoust> (I think)
[01:38] <pauldaoust> mcphail: thanky kindly; I'll try to find that
[01:38] <disasm> volvoguy: no such luck, wrt54g goes for $40 if you get it at the right time, and a bridge goes for about $80 and has less signal strength than the router, supply and demand i guess
[01:38] <theeil> fblade1987: if they're in the path (echo $PATH) you can just type the name of the file to run it (to run vim, you type vim) and as other ppl have been saying, if you're in the same folder as the file (pwd) just type ./filename
[01:39] <volvoguy> disasm, i've noticed that as well. so i'll probably need openwrt, a cantenna or two, and i should be able to do 300ft pretty easily.
[01:39] <disasm> fblade1987: out of curiosity what is the bin file your running?
[01:40] <disasm> volvoguy: you don't necessarily need openwrt, i just like being able to have it e-mail me logs and stuff, there are a bunch of roms people have made to make it do things like bridge a network.
[01:40] <fblade1987> thanks guys i shall try it, Disasm: just random stuff like the java installer and real player
[01:40] <volvoguy> disasm, thanks. good to know.
[01:40] <Doonz> whats the command to forcefully unmount a drive even if it says its busy?
[01:41] <pauldaoust> Doonz: shutdown now -r, I believe ;-)
[01:41] <pauldaoust> Doonz: (that's what I always used)
[01:41] <Doonz> yeah thanx for the reboot
[01:41] <Fotinakis> umount -f dev
[01:41] <Fotinakis> right?
[01:41] <Doonz> mebbe
[01:41] <Doonz> no
[01:41] <pauldaoust> Doonz: oop sorry, you didn't try my suggestion, did you?
[01:41] <Doonz> still saying busy
[01:41] <Doonz> no
[01:42] <pauldaoust> Doonz: ha, good. just checking
[01:42] <Fotinakis> try -l (that's an L) instead of -f
[01:42] <Doonz> there was a command i just cant remember it
[01:42] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[01:42] <ubotu> thanks stormx2 :)
[01:42] <Doonz> Bingo
[01:42] <Doonz> thanx
[01:42] <volvoguy> dinnertime. be back in a bit.
[01:42] <Fotinakis> np
[01:42] <disasm> fblade1987: for java: apt-get install java-package; fakeroot make-jpkg <name_of_file.bin> answer questions, then when done, dpkg -i name_of_file.deb
[01:42] <fblade1987> hey guys thanks i think i sort of figuerd it out thnks
[01:43] <disasm> fblade1987: err, sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb
[01:43] <disasm> fblade1987: that prevents it from overwriting files in etc, you don't want it to, and ubuntu will make sure the plugin for your browser is put in the right place
[01:44] <samu2> is it possible to get those nice windows XP japanese fonts in ubuntu?
[01:45] <disasm> samu2: possibly, are they truetype?
[01:46] <fblade1987> right this may sound stupid but ow you personal msg on a irc?
[01:46] <disasm> fblade1987: /msg <name> message
[01:46] <meeep> hi. could any1 help me setup a pure-ftp-server? :o
[01:46] <samu2> disasm,  i am not sure. probably.
[01:48] <samu2> ms p gothic for example
[01:51] <disasm> samu2: /usr/share/fonts/truetype is where truetype fonts are stored, if you dump them into that folder, you'll have them in ubuntu (keep in mind this is borderline legal a lot of fonts come with an EULA saying you will only use them with the program it came with, etc)
[01:52] <ggeller> I'm trying to use a one-button mouse on an imac.  Is there a way to tell gnome to treat Command-click as a right click or some similar work around?
[01:54] <samu2> disasm, is that how youre supposed to install fonts in ubuntu?
[01:54] <disasm> samu2: its a way i've always used, maybe theres a gui tool somewhere, I just don't use gui's much
[01:55] <Waldman> I just installed the latest version of Firefox, but how would I create a shorcut to it?
[01:56] <styles`> ok i am booted through a live cd, i try to mount my /dev/hdb1 so i can edit grub but only root can do that, problem is it never let me set up a password
[01:56] <styles`> i dont know what the root password is....
[01:56] <styles`> can u even be root with the livecd
[01:57] <bobbyd> styles, use sudo
[01:57] <styles`> sudo?
[01:58] <ggeller> styles: Open a root terminal window from the main gnome window.
[01:58] <styles`> i have
[01:59] <styles`> then what?
[01:59] <samu2> can i use these .ttc truetype fonts in ubuntu too?
[02:00] <ggeller> styles:
[02:00] <ggeller> cd /mnt
[02:00] <ggeller> mount hdb1
[02:00] <ggeller> or something like that.
[02:01] <styles`> ggeller, i have to be root to be able to mount it
[02:01] <styles`> and i cant switch to root cause i dont know the password
[02:01] <styles`> and the livecd didnt let me set a password
[02:02] <thrush_2> styles`, 'sudo -s' prompts for a password?
[02:02] <ggeller> styles:  Are you sure you opened a "Root Terminal"
[02:02] <styles`> i only opened a terminal
[02:02] <styles`> dont know if its a "root terminal"
[02:02] <rileyshuit> i have a prblem with my wireless card
[02:02] <styles`> ok
[02:03] <cute_bettong> is breezy usable yet?
[02:03] <styles`> ive opened a root terminal
[02:03] <rileyshuit> i'm pretty new man, sorry
[02:03] <ggeller> bye.
[02:03] <catphive> hey, does anyone know how to turn off the "tap to click" functionality in laptops with touchpads
[02:03] <catphive> ?
[02:04] <rileyshuit> when I do a ifconfig in terminal it doesnt list my wlan card
[02:04] <styles`> ok now i cant find grub
[02:04] <styles`> grrrr
[02:05] <styles`> grub normally goes to /boot/grub correct?
[02:06] <cute_bettong> Seveas: hey man is breezy safe to use now?
[02:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to keep a directory on a second drive synced with some directory on my primary drive, so that my music files will always have a current backup without my having to periodically overwrite the entire directory with thousands of files, over-writing a lot of valid data?
[02:08] <Chris_Note> whats the hdparm string to set dma on/off?
[02:08] <styles`> can someone plz help me out
[02:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:12] <catphive> how do I enable the root user?
[02:13] <sigurdga> catphive: "sudo passwd"
[02:14] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell catphive about root
[02:14] <sigurdga> catphive: temporary, you can "sudo bash"
[02:14] <Chris_Note> ubotu: root
[02:14] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:15] <catphive> sudo passwd worked
[02:15] <sigurdga> catphive: good
[02:16] <catphive> thanks
[02:16] <catphive> does anyone know about configuring touchpads under linux?
[02:17] <sigurdga> catphive: what kind of touchpad? laptop? external?
[02:19] <catphive> laptop
[02:19] <sigurdga> catphive: my touchpad "just works" in ubuntu and debian.
[02:20] <samu2> mine too
[02:20] <sigurdga> maybe searching the forum will help you
[02:20] <samu2> seems a bit too sensitive though
[02:20] <catphive> it works, I want to change how it works. I really hate the "tap to click" feature
[02:20] <samu2> or maybe im just used to the speed i had in XP
[02:21] <sigurdga> see the xorg.conf file, look for "synaptic"
[02:22] <sigurdga> i think that was the place i had to tweak a little when trying gentoo on that laptop
[02:22] <disasm> catphive: try apt-get install tpconfig, its a console util though
[02:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> THIS IS funny
[02:23] <BROKEN_LADDER>  Yahoo! Mail gives you 1.0GB MB for free!
[02:23] <BROKEN_LADDER>    Would you like to buy a 10MB, 25MB, 50MB or 100MB mailbox?
[02:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> uh..hmm..sounds like a bad deal.
[02:23] <catphive> thanks
[02:24] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : make your nick lower case btw.. all upper case is a bit annoying
[02:24] <sigurdga> BROKEN_LADDER: what do you mean by that bying-thing
[02:25] <pepsi> how do i know which xorg modules to use? glcore, dri, extmod, et al
[02:26] <sigurdga> pepsi: isn't the default good enough?
[02:26] <pepsi> the default is none of them
[02:26] <pepsi> i need v4l, but what does the rest do?
[02:28] <qt2> does ubuntu support the radeon 9250, it's not listed on the wiki :\
[02:28] <Gobbla> [02:23:37]  <BROKEN_LADDER>  Yahoo! Mail gives you 1.0GB MB for free! uhm?
[02:28] <Gobbla> 1GB MB? :O
[02:30] <sigurdga> Yahoo mail will be superior to gmail when the new interface reaches the users
[02:30] <chrisbudden> hello
[02:30] <disasm> sigurdga: whats so good about it?
[02:31] <Gobbla> im happy with how gmail are...
[02:32] <sigurdga> disasm: the new features that are possible on top of a good search engine
[02:32] <Gobbla> such as?
[02:32] <pauldaoust> hallooooooooooooo
[02:32] <sigurdga> Gobbla: wait and see :)
[02:32] <Gobbla> whats wrong with gmails engine?
[02:33] <pauldaoust> here's a problem I'm having, that is causing me no end of grief, and I've RTFW over and over and over again...
[02:33] <sigurdga> it's good
[02:33] <Gobbla> how much space will yahoo have?
[02:33] <sigurdga> 1G
[02:33] <Gobbla> not that it really matters but gmail has over 2GB
[02:33] <chrisbudden> When I use Rhythmbox, by clicking the icon i made on the desktop, opens the program but only allows me to play my mp3 files in the music dir.  When I opened a mp3 file from my desktop and it opened with rhythmbox, my full WMA library is there and i am able to play the files.   Anyone got an idea?
[02:33] <sigurdga> i know, and it doesn't matter, really
[02:33] <disasm> pauldaoust: is RTFW Read the Fine Wiki?
[02:33] <Gobbla> yeah but more is better imo :)
[02:34] <pauldaoust> disasm: ha, no, but I tried that too
[02:34] <flodine> does anyone here use imagemagick?
[02:34] <flodine> i need help
[02:34] <pauldaoust> anyone have problems with terribly distorted sound? I'll get that happy beating-of-drums sound when I turn on the computer, but as soon as I log into a user account the sound goes about an octave too slooooooooooooooooow
[02:34] <pauldaoust> flodine: I've used it a bit; what do you need help with?
[02:34] <disasm> flodine: sometimes, whats the issue?
[02:34] <Gobbla> sigurdga, are you a beta-tester?
[02:35] <disasm> pauldaoust: just giving you a hard time over the upside down M ;-)
[02:35] <flodine> pauldaous i need to make some window small is the possible
[02:35] <sigurdga> i filled 8% of ny gmail account, don't think most people need as much as you ;)
[02:35] <flodine> this
[02:35] <sigurdga> Gobbla: sort of, yes
[02:35] <Gobbla> ive only filled 12 out of 2,5, but with time it will get larger
[02:35] <pauldaoust> disasm: oop, I meant *s*tfw.
[02:36] <pauldaoust> flodine: make a window small?
[02:36] <flodine> like in fvwm
[02:36] <Gobbla> sigurdga, is it like with gmail or for a trusted few?
[02:36] <pauldaoust> flodine: what sort of window? I normally use imagemagick from the command-line
[02:36] <sigurdga> Gobbla: yes, it will, and I think the limit will be extended before you fill your mailbox
[02:36] <flodine> pauldaous look at the screenshot
[02:36] <flodine> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22468994/
[02:36] <Gobbla> sigurdga, that is most likely
[02:36] <zdennis> i lost a network connection for about 2 seconds, and now my nfs mounts are freezing... i can't umount them because it says "Device is busy", but I can't remount them either. Any ideas?\
[02:37] <chrisbudden> anyone got any thoughts to my problem?
[02:37] <jcape> zdennis: They should come back up if you can contact the server
[02:37] <flodine> pauldaous you see the small windows
[02:37] <sigurdga> Gobbla: I think it is for a subset of the users, but will be extended soon
[02:37] <zdennis> jcape, when i try, it just hangs in the terminal
[02:37] <jcape> zdennis: Otherwise you're likely unable to safely umount them
[02:37] <Gobbla> so u cant invite me?
[02:37] <zdennis> i dont want to reboot
[02:37] <zdennis> ..
[02:37] <jcape> zdennis: Can you ping the server?
[02:37] <jcape> zdennis: I used to admin a NFS-/home based setup at my old job
[02:38] <sigurdga> Gobbla: sorry, no, but I think there will be more screenshots as the media awakens
[02:38] <jcape> zdennis: NFS will hang until it can contact the server
[02:38] <zdennis> whoa...cannot ping server
[02:38] <pepsi> how do i know which xserver moduels to load? glcore, dri, glx, etc
[02:38] <Gobbla> sigurdga, allright
[02:38] <jcape> zdennis: (That's by design)
[02:38] <pauldaoust> flodine: I've looked at the screenshot, but I'm still not quite sure what you're trying to do
[02:38] <Gobbla> unless these are really useful features i think i will stick with gmail though
[02:38] <sigurdga> Gobbla: but that is not a good replacement, i know
[02:38] <jcape> zdennis: Yeah, fix the network so you can and it'll come back as though nothing happened.
[02:39] <zdennis> ok, fixed network
[02:39] <zdennis> am trying it again
[02:39] <pauldaoust> crimsun: you ain't there, are you?
[02:39] <Gobbla> i can do what i want to do with gmail so..
[02:39] <flodine> pauldaous ok on the right side those windows are made small some how
[02:40] <pauldaoust> flodine: sure do
[02:40] <Gobbla> i dont realise why gmail havent gone public yet, every sucker who wants to have an account have it by now..
[02:41] <pauldaoust> flodine: yeah... not sure how that's done. pretty sure it's not through ImageMagick though
[02:41] <sigurdga> Gobbla: I think they will pretty soon, about the same time as Yahoo does
[02:41] <flodine> pauldaous if you read the comment the guy says that image is the programe
[02:42] <Gobbla> i mean is basically public already..
[02:42] <zdennis> jcape, it's working great
[02:42] <zdennis> jcape, thank you for your help
[02:42] <zeus1_> hey...anyone out there to help me fix my USB headset
[02:42] <jcape> np
[02:42] <sigurdga> yes, I got my userid from an automatic service
[02:42] <chrisbudden> rhythmbox?
[02:42] <Gobbla> k
[02:43] <Gobbla> i think those got shut down
[02:43] <Gobbla> there were like millions of invites there, heh..
[02:43] <sigurdga> heh, yes
[02:44] <pauldaoust> flodine: yer right. looks like he uses that funky script he links to, although that's out of my league...
[02:44] <sigurdga> nighty nighty
[02:44] <Gobbla> gn
[02:45] <chrisbudden> rhythmbox? anyone?
[02:45] <pauldaoust> chrisbudden: no idea; that sounds weird. Rhythmbox only ever uses its database, unless you have a really really old version...
[02:45] <funkyHat> what's the questions chrisbudden?
[02:45] <funkyHat> *question
[02:46] <pauldaoust> hey, has anyone had sound that goes tooooooo sloooooooow? it sounds long and drawn-out, like a horror film
[02:46] <chrisbudden> thanks
[02:46] <funkyHat> oh, just read it
[02:46] <funkyHat> no idea chris, sorry
[02:46] <pauldaoust> when I use an OSS app like Flash, everything is magically fixed
[02:46] <Gobbla> pauldaoust, not unintentionally...
[02:46] <chrisbudden> i have 0.8.8
[02:46] <pauldaoust> Gobbla: ha!
[02:46] <chrisbudden> i tried to update to 0.9.0
[02:46] <zeus1_> Umm ok everyone, my USB keyboard works fine, but my headset (plantronics dsp-500 USB headset) is not being detected on ubuntu. They work fine in Windows XP. Also my speakers are working (playing sound) perfectly fine, so the sound is working. Could anyone assist me in fixing this problem?
[02:46] <chrisbudden> but their were lots of dependency problems
[02:47] <pauldaoust> zeus1: sure. type lsusb at the command line, and paste the contents into the #flood channel on this server or onto http://pastebin.com
[02:47] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: *sorry meant to say paste the *output* into #flood or a pastebin
[02:48] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: have you watched for the appearance and disappearance of any new items in the Device Manager when you plug and unplug the headset?
[02:48] <catphive> my gnome startup script is boned, but the "safe" startup option works fine. how do I reset my normal startup script?
[02:48] <zeus1_> yes pauldaoust I tried that
[02:48] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: (Ubuntu device manager, not Windows)
[02:49] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: hm. okay, let's see the output of lsusb instead
[02:49] <catphive> my current script never gets past launching the window manager
[02:49] <zeus1_> pauldaoust check the flood channel
[02:49] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: hm, that's it?
[02:49] <zeus1_> yea
[02:49] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: and it can't be loose wires...
[02:50] <zeus1_> it works fien in windows xp...
[02:50] <zeus1_> fine*
[02:50] <Gobbla> what's going to be new in breezy?
[02:50] <Doonz> hey guys if i have to run a program through terminal can is it possible to make an icon for it and have it run terminal so i cant see it and just the app shows up?
[02:51] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: try typing dmesg and then paste the last ten or fifteen lines into #flood
[02:51] <pepsi> how do i know which x server modules to load? glcore, dri, glx, etc?
[02:51] <pauldaoust> pepsi: depends if you're going with proprietary drivers from the hardware manufacturers or with the open-source drivers
[02:51] <pepsi> pauldaoust, ok.. well i dunno.. how do i know which ones to use?
[02:51] <TrekCycling> yeah, I'd like to know what is going to be new in Breezy also
[02:52] <chrisbudden> when is Breezy out?
[02:52] <zeus1_> pauldaoust check #flood channel
[02:52] <Gobbla> october i think
[02:52] <pepsi> there is no description of what each modules is for
[02:52] <thrice`> is breezy preview considered stable enough to upgrade ?
[02:52] <pauldaoust> pepsi: I guess the best thing to do actually is ask what you're trying to do. are you having problems? or is everything okay, and you just want to improve performance? or are you trying to enable transparency and shadows?
[02:53] <pepsi> pauldaoust, well i dunno.. im reconfigureing xserver-xorg cause i want a higher resolution, but the default for theose modules is none of them
[02:53] <pepsi> im using nv for now, will use nvidia if i cant get 1600x1200
[02:53] <pepsi> transparency would be nice though
[02:53] <pauldaoust> pepsi: that's unusual; you should at least have DRI and glx enabled
[02:53] <catphive> gnome freezes on bootup for me when trying to launch matacity. the "safe" session option works fine though. how do I reset my gnome startup script so that so that I don't need to use the safe session?
[02:54] <pauldaoust> pepsi: not sure why it didn't enable those by default
[02:54] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: well, it does say "registered new driver snd-usb-audio" which is a good sign. maybe you just aren't choosing the proper soundcard to output to, in the program that you're using?
[02:55] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: (not sure how to do that, as I only have one sound card, and it's been a while since I've had two, so everything's changed)
[02:56] <zeus1_> pauldaoust...no..the option wasent there 4 choosing the headset
[02:56] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: bizarre. I'm not sure...
[02:56] <zeus1_> and its still not there
[02:56] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: one last thing to paste: could you paste the output of lsmod into #flood?
[02:57] <samu2> does anyone know how to install truetype font collections .ttc files in ubuntu?
[02:58] <AlinuxOS> hello all :)
[02:59] <zeus1_> pauldaoust ok i posted in flood
[03:01] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: gee whiz
[03:01] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: I can't see anything wrong
[03:01] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: looks okay to me
[03:01] <zeus1_> hmm
[03:01] <zeus1_> h/o...im gonna try a trick crimsun told me
[03:01] <AlinuxOS> aftertaf, installing a 2.6.12 vanilla kernel, I can't see boot messages anymore. my menu.list contains  "vga=794 quiet splash" for 17" 1280x1024 resolution. so I had to use vga=normal, but it's horrible :( what can I do?
[03:02] <zeus1_> to unplug the headset...reboot ubuntu then plug it in again
[03:02] <zeus1_> brb....
[03:02] <disasm> zeus1_: try running alsmaixer -c 1
[03:02] <zeus1_> whats that did disasm
[03:02] <zeus1_> do*
[03:03] <zeus1_> u mean alsamixer -c right
[03:03] <AlinuxOS> someone who could help me?
[03:03] <zeus1_> brb..
[03:05] <BenM> hey, has anyone seen a case where a computer detects the network card fine when booting from an ubuntu cd
[03:05] <BenM> but when netbooting, it is unable to detect it
[03:06] <BenM> that is happening on a pxeserver setup i have here with my dell inspiron 600m
[03:06] <AlinuxOS> aftertaf, installing a 2.6.12 vanilla kernel, I can't see boot messages anymore. my menu.list contains  "vga=794 quiet splash" for 17" 1280x1024 resolution. so I had to use vga=normal, but it's horrible :( what can I do?
[03:06] <disasm> aftertaf: did you try removing the special options, and booting without frame buffer?
[03:07] <AlinuxOS> ok, maybe I'll try suse, that simplier for this stuff?
[03:07] <AlinuxOS> ah sorry aftertaf
[03:07] <AlinuxOS> :)
[03:07] <AlinuxOS> how can I boot without?
[03:08] <AlinuxOS> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=794 single
[03:08] <AlinuxOS> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=794 u mean?
[03:10] <AlinuxOS> I'm usign hoary with vanilla kernel.
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> because breezy with 2.6.12 is not stabile for me.
[03:12] <disasm> AlinuxOS: cut off everything after the root=/dev/hda6
[03:12] <disasm> then add one parameter back at a time, till you find out the problem one
[03:13] <AlinuxOS> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6"   ok?
[03:13] <zeus1_> pauldaoust
[03:13] <zeus1_> ok so...I see the headset in device manager now
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> then add one parameter? I can' understand sorry?
[03:14] <zeus1_> pauldaoust its still not playing in the headset yet
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> in debian channel they don't want to help noone :(
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> bad , very bad.
[03:14] <benkong2> ! apt sources
[03:14] <ubotu> benkong2: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-pisukella2 root=/dev/hda6"   so I leave in this way?
[03:15] <fblade1987> can any oe tell me how to download codecs so i can play WMV and mpg mpegs and the other please
[03:15] <benkong2> ! tell benkong2 about apt
[03:15] <disasm> AlinuxOS: sorry, try that like you pasted above, and then add the vga line, and then the quiet line, and then the splash line, one at a time with reboots inbetween to figure out where the problem is
[03:15] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, benkong2
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> benkong2, http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms
[03:16] <benkong2> AlinuxOS, thanks
[03:17] <fblade1987> can any one tell me how to download codecs so i can play WMV and mpg mpegs and the other please
[03:17] <AlinuxOS> dieman, ok
[03:17] <zeus1_> pauldaoust u there
[03:17] <AMCDeathKnight> I am running Ubuntu live over Gentoo.. Where do i go to find my Gentoo home directory?
[03:18] <AlinuxOS> fblade1987, http://ubuntuguide.org/  ctrl + f search word "codecs".
[03:18] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: that depends on where you put it :) most likely, you would have put it on the /dev/hda2 partiiton (if you don't have any fancy partiitoning and you followed the Gentoo guide which suggested making a tiny partition at /dev/hda1 for /boot)
[03:19] <bluefoxicy> damnit
[03:19] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: then on that partition you would find it under /home/yourusername
[03:19] <bluefoxicy> my gcs632u KVM isn't working
[03:19] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: but first you have to mount it. go like this at the command line: sudo mkdir /media/harddrive
[03:19] <disasm> AMCDeathKnight: i;d guess hda4 or 5
[03:19] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/harddrive
[03:20] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: oh you have fancy partitions?
[03:20] <AMCDeathKnight> I changed it to hd1
[03:20] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: if you have more than four partitions it'll start at /dev/hda5
[03:20] <disasm> AMCDeathKnight: cause setting up gentoo they tell you hda1 for boot hda2 for swap hda3 for / and i'd assume you'd use hda4 for /home
[03:20] <pauldaoust> AMCDeathKnight: ohhhhhh maybe you did it differently from me; I just dumped everything into /dev/hda2 :)
[03:21] <l4mp_ibook> n8
[03:21] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[03:21] <AMCDeathKnight> lets see
[03:21] <disasm> fdisk -l will list your parts
[03:22] <AMCDeathKnight> ok wait till i go to poastbin
[03:22] <AMCDeathKnight> *paste
[03:23] <disasm> yeah, people frown on /exec -o fdisk -l ;-)
[03:23] <AMCDeathKnight> http://pastebin.com/354109
[03:23] <oblib> This is probably a much asked question -- how do I add shortcuts to the Applications menu?
[03:24] <disasm> i'd guess /dev/hda3 in /home
[03:24] <AMCDeathKnight> So how to I get to it then
[03:24] <disasm> AMCDeathKnight: sudo mkdir /homedir
[03:24] <AMCDeathKnight> made
[03:24] <disasm> AMCDeathKnight: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /homedir
[03:24] <disasm> AMCDeathKnight: then cd /homedir
[03:25] <AMCDeathKnight> No its only got Ubuntu in there
[03:25] <arture> Hi, hab grad ubuntu installiert und meine serielle mouse geht nicht... kann mir da jemand schnell helfen?
[03:26] <Mobus> How do I override the function if rmdir that doesn't allow me to delete a folder when it isn't empty?
[03:26] <disasm> arture: no sprachen zi doich
[03:26] <zeus1_> can anyone help me get sound playing in my head set
[03:26] <disasm> not sure if i spelled that right...
[03:26] <Mobus> Disase: Es ist Ich Sreche KEine Deutsche
[03:26] <disasm> zeus1_: try alsamixer -c 1   -  do you get anything?
[03:27] <zeus1_> ya a black screen with some bars
[03:27] <zeus1_> disasm
[03:27] <disasm> ok, whats it say in the top left corner
[03:27] <Mobus> how can I delete a folder that has 250 items in it without deleting each one one by one?
[03:27] <zeus1_> Plantronics Headset
[03:27] <disasm> oh, and are there m's on those bars by any chance?
[03:27] <zeus1_> ya
[03:27] <zeus1_> on base boost and auto gain
[03:28] <zeus1_> bass boost*
[03:28] <oblib> Mobus rm -R recurses
[03:28] <disasm> Mobus: rm -rf folder/
[03:28] <Mobus> thanks
[03:28] <disasm> Mobus: be very careful with that command
[03:28] <oblib> Mobus rm -f forces
[03:28] <theeil> q
[03:28] <Mobus> I know I know
[03:28] <disasm> whats the diff between -R and -r?
[03:29] <zeus1_> disasm wat do i do next
[03:29] <disasm> zeus1_: ok, master above that has a number right?
[03:29] <disasm> whats that number?
[03:29] <theeil> when i run a game, i have to killall esd; is there a workaround or way to use alsa for EVERYTHING
[03:29] <zeus1_> disasm where is "master"
[03:30] <pauldaoust> hey, does anyone know what X does when it starts up? I'm specifically wondering what sort of scripts it runs, etc. I've traced a sound problem down, and I now know that it goes funny at about the time the "X startup file" runs, but I have no idea what that is. any ideas?
[03:30] <disasm> when you run alsamixer, you have a bunch of faders, the far left one should be master
[03:30] <zeus1_> um u told me to start alsamixer with the parameters "-c 1"
[03:30] <disasm> pauldaoust: gnome?
[03:30] <zeus1_> so all I see is bass/treble options
[03:30] <oblib> Seveas: This is probably a much asked question -- how do I add shortcuts to the Applications menu?
[03:30] <disasm> pauldaoust: it runs esd (the sound daemon)
[03:31] <disasm> bass/treble in alsamixer?
[03:31] <arture> sorry war weg...  I've just installed and my serial mouse isn't working... can anyone give me a hint so i can go to bed with an working system?
[03:31] <pauldaoust> disasm: well, maybe I should explain it further. this sound problem I'm having, it doesn't crop up until I actually log into my GNOME session. My first thought is that esd is the culprit, but esd is running before the sound goes all distorted... it plays the startup sound for a scant second or two, then goes sloooooow.
[03:32] <zeus1_> disasm...ok so i went to alsamixer how do i change the device from my sound card to the headset
[03:32] <disasm> arture: cat /dev/ttyS0 try moving the mouse, if yous see jiberish thats the serial port
[03:32] <pauldaoust> disasm: logging in through ssh, I can see that certain programs appear and disappear at that very time. xrdb, cc1, and cpp
[03:32] <theeil> arture: man Xorg/xorg there should be two configuration utilities, one is more manual, try that
[03:32] <disasm> pauldaoust: you can try using alternate dm/wm maybe try fluxbox, and run a sound app
[03:33] <pauldaoust> disasm: that's a clever idea. just for troubleshooting purposes?
[03:33] <pauldaoust> disasm: looking at the manpage tells me that xrdb is usually called from your "X startup file", although I would assume that a distro like this, that uses a login manager, probably loads it at a different point.
[03:33] <arture> thx, i'll try this now...
[03:34] <disasm> pauldaoust: depends, i personally use fluxbox all the time, much nicer interface imho, but you could very well use it just for troubleshooting
[03:35] <planetcall> I got 4 Fedora4 CDs and 1 Ubuntu CD ....... which should I install. I am currently using Fedora 3 on my box. Is there any compelling reason to go for a particular one ?
[03:35] <pauldaoust> disasm: I'm installing it for a school, and I figure GNOME will be the best enviro for kids to use.
[03:36] <disasm> zeus1_: when you run alsamixer -c 1 it should jump to the second sound card (ie your usb headset) if it comes up, you should see in the upper left corner, card: <device> what is that device for one, and secondly you should see faders, that say master and pcm primarily, make sure they aren't muted, and the volume is at about 74
[03:36] <disasm> pauldaoust: true, probly is
[03:37] <planetcall>  
[03:37] <zeus1_> disasm...I dont see it...h/o i am taking a pic to sho u
[03:37] <disasm> planetcall: ubunutu uses deb files, which are much better designed than rpm, and ubuntu peole are nice ;-)
[03:37] <disasm> zeus1_: ok
[03:37] <planetcall> hmmmm
[03:38] <disasm> planetcall: not too mention more technical reasons like /etc/init.d rather than the rc scripts (it still has them, they just work differently) and other cool little differences having to do with the debian base
[03:39] <disasm> Smegzor: your name reminds me of smeagol for some reason ;-)
[03:39] <Smegzor> :P  its more Red Dwarf
[03:39] <disasm> ah ;-)
[03:40] <planetcall> i used the live CD provided for ubuntu......it was satisfying except that the grahics didnt go beyond 800*600
[03:40] <Smegzor> I can't see my ubuntu box from my Windows network for some reason.  I'm not sure what I haven't done to get it on the lan.  Is there a howto specific to ubuntu for this?>
[03:40] <drbombay43> planetcall, I use fc4, as a desktop, but I use ubuntu for my laptop because I like the way gnome acts in ubuntu
[03:40] <planetcall> is it normal for live CD ? .......btw i am using Intel865
[03:41] <disasm> planetcall: thats no problem, just a quick change in the xorg.conf, mine defaults to 1280x800 actually. I was rather impressed how it picked up my laptop screen without any problems
[03:42] <disasm> Smegzor: any firewall?
[03:42] <planetcall> k but since it is all packed in just 1 CD so there wont be much applications to be installed.......i havent tried my hand on the cd as yet
[03:42] <disasm> Smegzor: oh, and can the ubuntu box see the network?
[03:42] <disasm> planetcall: you need the ubuntu install cd, it's still one cd, but i think it has a fairly good selection of apps
[03:43] <zeus1_> disasm: http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9040/desktop15qr.jpg
[03:43] <Smegzor> yes but I can turn that off.  makes no difference
[03:43] <zeus1_> that is what I get when I type "alsamixer -c 1"
[03:43] <planetcall> will it be possible to see ntfs drives on ubuntu ?
[03:43] <disasm> well it appears to be recognizing the sound card ;-)
[03:44] <disasm> thats good news, so what app are you using that you want to use it with?
[03:44] <Smegzor> it might be the windows side blocking it.  i'll have a play and see.
[03:44] <arture> ok, i've tried cat /dev/ttyS0 and the thing that happend was, that i could type but nothing happened when i moved the mouse and i didn't know how to get my comand line back.
[03:44] <disasm> arture: ctrl-c
[03:44] <zeus1_> disasm: xmms
[03:44] <disasm> arture: guess it's not on ttyS0...
[03:44] <Mobus> ok, it didn't work...
[03:45] <Mobus> I want to remove a directory
[03:45] <Mobus> we'll call it "dir"
[03:45] <arture> so... ttys1?
[03:45] <planetcall> is there support for reading  NTFS on ubuntu 
[03:45] <Mobus> /home/Mobus/dira has 250 items in it
[03:46] <Mobus> planetcall: mount -o uid=USERNAME /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:46] <disasm> ok, in xmms, go to preferences, make sure output is alsa, configure, then audio device choose plantronics headset
[03:46] <disasm> zeus1_: above is for you
[03:46] <Mobus> I want to get rid of /home/mobus/dira.  how?
[03:46] <disasm> rm -rf /home/mobus/dira
[03:47] <Mobus>  when I do that it says "dira is a directory"
[03:47] <disasm> you have the -r in there right?
[03:47] <planetcall> I got my 10 CD Pack y'day and I will be distributing it to my friends pretty soon.........gifting one of them on his B'day...
[03:47] <Smegzor> disasm, yes ubuntu can see the network
[03:48] <Mobus> ok... now all of a sudden it worked
[03:48] <Mobus> thanks
[03:48] <disasm> no problem
[03:48] <dducko> What level do I need to set my inittab to not to start the xserver, or do i do that somewhere else?
[03:48] <disasm> Smegzor: what are you trying to see on the ubuntu box? you trying to ping, or actually access a service (file share/web server/mail server/etc)
[03:48] <brownie17> aftertaf: on the ubntu guide it says that ubntu can mount an ISO without burning it, and it gave me the code to do it, is that like usually alcahol or nero or osmething to simulate a drive?
[03:49] <dducko> I want to manually install the Nvidia drivers
[03:49] <planetcall> Ok i will be installing ubuntu and I guess that I will be getting the Ubuntu CDs every 6 months ;)
[03:49] <fblade1987> right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?
[03:49] <Smegzor> i need to access the printer, but being able to see any shares I set up would be nice.
[03:49] <planetcall> thanks buddies
[03:49] <Mobus> now
[03:49] <zeus1_> disasm..I did that  but its still playing from the speakers
[03:49] <Mobus> how do a chmod 250 files at once?
[03:49] <disasm> brownie17: yeah, sorta, it just mounts the file system though
[03:49] <Smegzor> the ubuntu box isn't getting listed in network neighbourhood
[03:49] <disasm> zeus1_: odd...
[03:50] <disasm> you can always rmmod the module for the sound card, and try playing...
[03:50] <zeus1_> even tho the box i clicked on said plantronics headset disasm
[03:50] <zeus1_> idk how to do that
[03:50] <Smegzor> brb.  i have to attend to something for a few mins.. my printer can wait :)
[03:51] <arture> same, nothing happens....hmm i know it is not a hardware problem...
[03:51] <fblade1987> right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?
[03:51] <Mobus> How dp I change permissions of 250 files at once?
[03:51] <disasm> zeus1_: what card is it?
[03:51] <dducko> Mobus in one directory?
[03:51] <thellama> my ibook can
[03:51] <Mobus> all in one directory yes
[03:51] <thellama> t wake from from sleep
[03:51] <disasm> zeus1_: alsamixer should tell you the card
[03:52] <thellama> my ibook cannot wake from sleep in ubuntu
[03:52] <thellama> it says something about not finding cpu freq
[03:52] <dducko> chmod -R nameOfDirectory/
[03:52] <disasm> Mobus: chmod -R
[03:52] <Mobus> thanks
[03:53] <brownie17> madpilot: when i try to play WMV's in totem, they are choppy and crap
[03:53] <Mobus> thank you so much
[03:53] <dducko> What level do I need to set my inittab to not to start the xserver, or do i do that somewhere else?
[03:53] <robertbb> What's the shortcut key to switch between workspaces in Gnome?
[03:53] <robertbb> Instead of clicking on the workspace switcher applet?
[03:54] <pepsi> how do i use the nvidia module?
[03:54] <zdennis> dducko, it used to be runlevel 2... but then they screwed with the rc scripts
[03:54] <brownie17> robertbb: you can set your own
[03:54] <pepsi> !nvidia
[03:54] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:54] <robertbb> brownie17, how?
[03:54] <brownie17> robertbb: want to know how?
[03:54] <volvoguy> i'm back. did any software raid gurus show up while i was gone?
[03:54] <brownie17> robertbb: you go system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[03:54] <brownie17> then scroll down until you get to ti
[03:54] <dducko> so.. that wont work then.. Is there a way to kill the Xserver.. or do I need to restart in Debug mode?
[03:55] <NAiL> Quick question: Is there a way to not start X on boot?
[03:55] <brownie17> robertbb: i have it set up so my f5-f8 keys are al assigned to a workspace
[03:55] <thellama> someone help me please! my ibook cant wake from sleep, it says something about not finding cpu freq and network stuff!
[03:55] <robertbb> brownie17, Awesome.. thanks :-) I'll have a play.
[03:56] <durt> Nail: you could just boot up in recovery mode
[03:56] <brownie17> robertbb: :)
[03:56] <stpere> hey there
[03:56] <NAiL> durt: Doesn't sound like a nice permanent solution ;)
[03:56] <thellama> no one has any idea on my problem?
[03:56] <thellama> woops
[03:57] <zdennis> what is the rcS.d directory? I know what 0-6 runlevels...but rcS.d?
[03:57] <pepsi> wasnt there a package you could install that added the Open Terminal command to the right click menu?
[03:57] <brownie17> bob2: hey, do you know if there a toaster package for rythmbox, so everytime the song changes it will popup and tell me what the new one is?
[03:57] <NAiL> zdennis: Read the README-file in rcS.d ;)
[03:58] <zdennis> NAiL, , go figure..thx
[03:58] <brownie17> pepsi: isnt that default? mine is there alreaddy
[03:58] <thellama> mac vs ubuntu poll: who votes tiger, who votes hoary?
[03:58] <brownie17> hoary
[03:58] <thellama> 0 to 1!
[03:59] <thellama> tiger
[03:59] <zdennis> you are asking this in a ubuntu irc channel?
[03:59] <brownie17> thellama, at least we got alot of votes! :)
[03:59] <thellama> heh
[03:59] <brownie17> hahah
[03:59] <thellama> yes is am
[03:59] <brownie17> yep :)
[03:59] <zdennis> i vote hoary
[03:59] <thellama> k
[03:59] <durt> nail: i know i saw the command on how to do it in the ubuntu forums somewhere, but i dont remember it - ask google
[03:59] <thellama> 0 to 2!
[03:59] <thellama> yay!
[03:59] <volvoguy> thellama, tiger with my small hard drive, dual-boot when i get a bigger one. :)
[03:59] <thellama> heh
[03:59] <NAiL> durt: just figured it out.. remove the etc/rc2.d/S13gdm symlink
[03:59] <zdennis> a cost-analysis aided me to believe that i get way more for what i paid for my pc and hoary, then what i do for a mac
[03:59] <NAiL> thnx :)
[04:00] <brownie17> gtg you guys1 :(
[04:00] <brownie17> cya
[04:00] <fblade1987> right guys i need just one more thing forted if you would be so kind as to help me! how can i properly get my windows partion to see in ubuntu?
[04:00] <thellama> well i dual boot hoary and tiger
[04:00] <thellama> just installed last night
[04:00] <thellama> newbie to linux
[04:00] <thellama> atleast osx is unix
[04:00] <thellama> so not too alien for me
[04:00] <zdennis> OSX is BSD, not unix
[04:01] <thellama> well bsd is based on unix ;)
[04:01] <thellama> isn't it?
[04:01] <stpere> fblade1987, you want to see your linux partition in windows?!
[04:01] <thellama> it has some unix roots, the command line is almost identical in both
[04:01] <zdennis> yes
[04:01] <Roots> Roots?
[04:01] <zdennis> yes to thellama
[04:01] <thellama> well uh
[04:02] <thellama> yay!
[04:02] <stpere> fblade1987, or is it the opposite?
[04:02] <thellama> anyway, all i have installed since is vlc and opera, what else should i get?
[04:03] <thellama> hoary is nicely packaged byt :)
[04:03] <thellama> *btw
[04:03] <thellama> anyone?
[04:04] <stpere> thellama, hmm.. depends on what you like..
[04:04] <stpere> thellama, what you want to do actually
[04:05] <stpere> thellama, I recommend getting gstreamer-mad
[04:05] <stpere> to listen to mp3s, if it's not already done
[04:05] <thellama> i have no idea
[04:05] <thellama> mp3s? vls does that right?
[04:06] <thellama> gimp will replace my photoshop
[04:06] <thellama> openoffice for word
[04:06] <thellama> damn i spent a lot on software :/
[04:06] <Madpilot> thellama: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for all the multimedia stuff
[04:06] <thellama> cool thanks
[04:07] <dducko> Im haveing some issues with things crashing, which I believe it is because of my graphics card
[04:07] <thellama> oh, one more thing: why doesn't clicking on any link like that open up my browser?
[04:07] <thellama> i have to right click it
[04:07] <dducko> Firefox crashes on a few sites.. the Nvidia home page for one
[04:07] <mushtaq> hi how to set the X as my default logon in "Kubuntu"
[04:08] <Madpilot> thellama: no idea, I use IRC inside Opera (Opera Chat) so it works fine... (I love integrated apps, I do...)
[04:08] <dducko> and another game, NWN crashes in certain areas..
[04:08] <lJlolel> breezy rocks, but isn't it supposed to use gnome 2.12?
[04:09] <disasm> dducko: that usually has to do with a plugin you have (flash maybe?)
[04:09] <uruguaian> hi
[04:09] <disasm> mushtaq: the X?
[04:09] <zeus1_> disasm its still not working..
[04:10] <zeus1_> the sound tha tis
[04:10] <mushtaq> disasm, yes xorg is not set as my default
[04:10] <mushtaq> disasm, when i installed kubuntu it is going to text mode
[04:10] <uruguaian> i want to open a .mpg file.. but the 'totem' tell me i need to install some plugin..
[04:10] <zdennis> Anyone here use Evolution for email?
[04:10] <mushtaq> disasm, i want it to go in graphical on my power pc
[04:10] <Madpilot> !tell uruguaian about restricted
[04:10] <disasm> mushtaq: sudo apt-get install kdm
[04:11] <zdennis> I am trying to get my SMTP to use sSMTP, so I can connect over ssl to our smtp server at work, and not use plain text authentication with my cable internet provider
[04:11] <zdennis> but i can't get it to work
[04:11] <mushtaq> disasm, but when i use startx i can go into to kde
[04:11] <disasm> mushtaq: sudo apt-get install kdm will give you the graphical login
[04:11] <mushtaq> disasm, but this is not the case at start up i need to do it manually
[04:11] <uruguaian> Madpilot: waht?
[04:12] <disasm> mushtaq: are you listening to me?
[04:12] <Madpilot> uruguaian: you should have just gotten a message from ubotu, with a URL in it. follow that URL, it's got the info you need for mpg support...
[04:12] <mushtaq> disasm, kdm is already the newest version.
[04:12] <mushtaq> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 73 not upgraded.
[04:13] <johndarkhorse> mushtaq they let you in here and your already causing trouble? lol
[04:13] <uruguaian> !tell uruguaian about restricted
[04:13] <Smegzor> argh!  I was able to add my printer, but I can't print to it even on the ubuntu box.  I was able to do a test page earlier.  Now CUPS falls over and has to be restarted. :<
[04:13] <disasm> mushtaq: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[04:13] <mushtaq> johndarkhorse, what did i do ? wrong ?
[04:13] <uruguaian> ok, thanks
[04:14] <mushtaq> disasm, do i need to do it every time i boot my pc ?
[04:14] <disasm> Smegzor: i've had problems with cups on ubuntu before, i think last time I just installed it from source...
[04:14] <mushtaq> oh hi johndarkhorse  how are you ?
[04:14] <mushtaq> johndarkhorse, what did i do wrong now ?
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> mushtaq nothing wrong, i'm just messin with ya
[04:14] <disasm> mushtaq: well if that works, do update-rc.d kdm defaults
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> mushtaq i'm at the office working
[04:14] <mushtaq> johndarkhorse, oh ok
[04:15] <disasm> then when you reboot it should go into kdm
[04:15] <mushtaq> johndarkhorse, have a nice day at work
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> mushtaq i use this nick so i can do my real job w/o worrying about folks msg'g me
[04:15] <mushtaq> ok disasm i will try now
[04:15] <mushtaq> ok johndarkhorse but your heart is in the room
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> always
[04:16] <zeus1_> disasm idk how to fix...ahh im so clos
[04:16] <mushtaq> disasm, System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist
[04:16] <disasm> zeus1_: what chipset is your soundcard?
[04:18] <disasm> mushtaq: try this: update-rc.d -f kdm remove; update-rc.d kdm defaults - dont forget the sudo's ;-)
[04:18] <zeus1_> disasm: USB Mixer is the chip
[04:19] <robertbb> Hmm.. anyone here use gaim?
[04:20] <MarioC> i do
[04:20] <robertbb> Seems when I get messages, it doesn't flash
[04:20] <durt> has anyone successfully done this: http://nanocrew.net/  ?
[04:20] <disasm> no, the chipset of hte sound card
[04:20] <mushtaq> disasm, it worked me going to restart thanks anyway
[04:20] <MarioC> robertbb, no it doesn't
[04:20] <robertbb> MarioC, Dang. :-(
[04:20] <MarioC> robertbb, the tab text color changes to red
[04:20] <disasm> robertbb: i have on occasion, mostly use naim and bitlbee though
[04:21] <zeus1_> disasm: the chip is "Realtek ALC650E"
[04:21] <robertbb> MarioC, Also, the buddy list won't minimise to the system tray in Ubuntu either
[04:21] <robertbb> Or will it?
[04:21] <yonkel-lappy> i am having some trouble with graphics on my dell inpsiron 6000 laptop. i can get gdm to start but the lcd is blank! it works fine with an external monitor tho
[04:21] <MarioC> robertbb, yes, it works
[04:22] <MarioC> yonkel-lappy, use a lower resolution
[04:22] <robertbb> MarioC, How do I get that to work? None of the plugins seem to do it?
[04:22] <MarioC> robertbb, by default you have an appleet that show the gaim budy icon
[04:22] <yonkel-lappy> MarioC: how do i do that? xorg.conf?
[04:22] <MarioC> yonkel-lappy, yes, try using: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:23] <yonkel-lappy> MarioC: thanks i will
[04:23] <MarioC> robertbb, you don't need any extra plugins, by default it works
[04:23] <robertbb> Hmm...
[04:23] <Maikeru> rawr
[04:23] <johndarkhorse> !tell yonkel-lappy about resolution
[04:24] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: thank you so much
[04:24] <Maikeru> do do dooo
[04:24] <Maikeru> doo doo dooo
[04:24] <Mr-Falkor> oh lord,.. my balls are hurting
[04:24] <Mr-Falkor> err
[04:24] <Mr-Falkor> my eyeballs`s
[04:24] <MarioC> lol
[04:24] <Maikeru> If you guys can't tell, I'
[04:24] <Maikeru> I'm very bored
[04:24] <Maikeru> ;/
[04:24] <MarioC> try writing some nice program ;)
[04:25] <Maikeru> too bored to open up pico
[04:25] <Maikeru> ;/
[04:25] <MarioC> or... watch porn
[04:25] <MarioC> it always works
[04:25] <Maikeru> and by me being bored I become lazy
[04:25] <Maikeru> Well, I lost all my porn
[04:25] <Mr-Falkor> xFTE is a funny editor
[04:25] <Maikeru> :<
[04:25] <Maikeru> thanks to windblows
[04:25] <thellama> what advantages and new features does breezy have?
[04:25] <disasm> zeus1_: try rmmod snd-intel8x0
[04:25] <Maikeru> good thing it's off my system
[04:26] <disasm> zeus1_: then worse case scenario is no sound should work
[04:26] <Maikeru> hah
[04:26] <Maikeru> no sound?
[04:26] <Maikeru> that sucks
[04:26] <robertbb> MarioC, My buddy list doesn't iconify at all
[04:26] <MarioC> anyone running breezy?
[04:26] <abbot45> hey.  can someone recommend a wireless router??
[04:26] <thellama> what's new in breezy? (main stuff)
[04:26] <Maikeru> With me, I don't get sound originally on Windows but it works beautifully on linux without any additional work
[04:26] <robertbb> abbot45, Linksys WRT54g
[04:27] <MarioC> robertbb, weird... do you have that applet... I can't remember its name
[04:27] <robertbb> MarioC, Yeah I do.. It's just called "System tray icon"
[04:27] <disasm> Maikeru: he gets sound, just not with his usb headset, so we're removing the snd card driver to try to force xmms to use the headset
[04:27] <robertbb> And the only option is to hide new messages in it until clicked
[04:28] <robertbb> But I don't see it at all
[04:28] <MarioC> robertbb, do you want to hide your buddy list?
[04:28] <abbot45> Is the Linksys WRT54g the best out there?  I don't think im gonna be tweaking it and putting my own firmware on it and stuff.  I just want something thats going to work nicely out of the box for a 3 or 4 computer home network.
[04:28] <Maikeru> ohhh
[04:28] <MarioC> if so, you have to "close" the buddy list for doing that
[04:28] <Maikeru> That sucks
[04:28] <fivetwentysix> Sniff, I want the later versions of PHP.
[04:28] <Maikeru> big time
[04:28] <Maikeru> I can't get wireless on my laptop
[04:28] <robertbb> MarioC, Yeah, I want to be able to click the close button and for it to appear as an icon on the systray
[04:28] <Maikeru> which is why I'm hoping Seveas will respond
[04:28] <abbot45> Something that isnt going to require DAILY RESETS.
[04:28] <Maikeru> since he was walking me through it earlier
[04:29] <robertbb> MarioC, When I close though, the whole thing shuts down
[04:29] <Mr-Falkor> I`ve changed from Suse to Ubuntu
[04:29] <durt> linksys works and there are lots of folks out there using a linksys, so you'll find lots of help
[04:29] <disasm> Maikeru: i lucked out, wireless didn't work in windows for mine, but worked without a hitch in linux ;-)
[04:29] <Mr-Falkor> so,.. Im more happy with ubuntu
[04:29] <zeus1_> disasm: it keeps telling me that "module snd-intel8x0 is in use"
[04:29] <Maikeru> disasm, I wish I were you
[04:30] <Maikeru> I'm stuck with this fuckin DWL-650
[04:30] <Maikeru> which is like the biggest problem to get working on Linux
[04:30] <durt> depends on your hardware
[04:30] <Maikeru> I spent like a month on getting my usb adapter working on my desktop
[04:30] <Maikeru> I gave up for the longest time
[04:30] <disasm> zeus1_: killall esd
[04:31] <Maikeru> and decided to check the web again
[04:31] <Maikeru> and finally found something that worked
[04:31] <Maikeru> so my new project is the laptop's pcmcia
[04:31] <MarioC> robertbb, weird.... those are default settings... why don't you try rm ~/.gaim ?
[04:31] <abbot45> whats the best place to buy one of those then?  newegg?
[04:31] <zeus1_> disasm that didnt work
[04:31] <disasm> Maikeru: broadcom, right?
[04:31] <Maikeru> No idea
[04:31] <Maikeru> abbot45, www.cnet.com
[04:31] <Maikeru> search for the product
[04:31] <Maikeru> will give you different places to buy from
[04:31] <thellama> what's new in breezy?
[04:31] <Maikeru> and who has the best price (including S&H)
[04:31] <Maikeru> or www.froogle.com
[04:32] <abbot45> Maikeru, ive been doing research on cnet.  ive bought things from the stores on there before.  I was just wondering if there were any specific ones.
[04:32] <Maikeru> oh
[04:32] <thellama> or pricegrabber.com
[04:32] <Maikeru> Not sure, I prefer froogle myself
[04:32] <juanej> what bittorrent client do u use ppl?
[04:32] <Maikeru> Azureus
[04:32] <abbot45> thanks
[04:32] <abbot45> Azureus is the best
[04:32] <Maikeru> When ya get on froogle sort from low to high
[04:32] <thellama> y?
[04:32] <disasm> Maikeru: your not 64 bit right?
[04:32] <Maikeru> disasm, no
[04:33] <Maikeru> abbot45, sort from low to high and then there's a thing to set min and max price, sometimes you'll want a minimum to block out unwanted things (extra accessories, etc.)
[04:33] <thellama> can anyone hear me?
[04:33] <durt> gnome bittorrent
[04:33] <Maikeru> thellama, yes, Azureus is the best
[04:33] <thellama> but y?maybe i should install it
[04:33] <robertbb> MarioC, Will I lose all of my settings if I do rm ~/.gaim ?
[04:33] <Maikeru> Great GUI
[04:34] <Maikeru> Easy to use
[04:34] <Maikeru> was my first BT client
[04:34] <Maikeru> I tried gnome BT and it wasn't nearly as nice
[04:34] <thellama> what about bittorent?
[04:34] <thellama> y?
[04:34] <Maikeru> What do you mean, "what about bittorent?"
[04:34] <thellama> y isnt it good?
[04:35] <Maikeru> Why isn't the gnome one good?
[04:35] <thellama> yup
[04:35] <Maikeru> I didn't care for the design
[04:35] <thellama> ah ok :0
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> robertbb yes you will
[04:35] <sml12> is there a simple ubuntu package search website?
[04:35] <Maikeru> didn't seem to give as much info
[04:35] <abbot45> Maikeru, thanks.  looks like $45 is about the lowest.
[04:35] <Maikeru> abbot45, no problem
[04:35] <Maikeru> thank you for asking
[04:35] <Maikeru> gave me something to do
[04:35] <Maikeru> :)
[04:35] <thellama> :)
[04:35] <Maikeru> I'm sitting here bored out of my mind
[04:35] <Maikeru> and am not gonna do homework
[04:35] <Maikeru> too lazy
[04:35] <thellama> heh
[04:35] <Maikeru> I'm hoping Seveas will show up
[04:36] <Maikeru> He seems idle right now :(
[04:36] <thellama> hmm
[04:36] <abbot45> So I've know that lots of people put custom firmware on this WRT54g.  What are some of the things you can do?
[04:36] <FatDarrel> abbot45, ssh, nfs, iptables etc ...
[04:36] <disasm> Maikeru: appears adm8211
[04:37] <Maikeru> DWL-650 Revision P
[04:37] <theturtle> hey is there a e17ubuntu ? :D
[04:37] <Maikeru> hmm
[04:37] <disasm> abbot45: run a webserver, custom firewall, general server, etc
[04:37] <FatDarrel> abbot45, its not as great as it looks but it is fun i played around for some time then i quit because it was not doing anything great for me
[04:37] <abbot45> so in other words, nothing thats really going to be that usefull to me as a regular computer / internet user.
[04:37] <Maikeru> I like http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:37] <Maikeru> :)
[04:37] <FatDarrel> abbot45, hmmm.... yes no maybe
[04:37] <FatDarrel> choose your fav ans.
[04:37] <fivetwentysix> Whats the biggest difference between 64bit and 32bit?
[04:37] <zeus1_> disasm wat do i do now...ur killall esd didnt fix tthe problem :(
[04:37] <sml12> theturltle: you could easily find out if somebody can help with my question?
[04:38] <FatDarrel> fivetwentysix, the largest allowable file system size
[04:38] <fivetwentysix> Hmm
[04:38] <fivetwentysix> ?
[04:38] <abbot45> But modding aside.  Its the most solid router out there for the $?
[04:38] <fivetwentysix> Sorry i'm stupid on this topic
[04:38] <disasm> is xmms open?
[04:39] <disasm> or any other program using the sound card?
[04:39] <Maikeru> You know what's pissed me off today?
[04:39] <Maikeru> Cedega
[04:39] <Maikeru> I go to play counter-strike or star wars jedi knight II: jedi outcast
[04:39] <Maikeru> and when I go to the internet play area
[04:39] <Maikeru> it connects
[04:39] <Maikeru> but as soon as it's ready to load the map
[04:39] <fivetwentysix> and crash!
[04:39] <Maikeru> it crashes
[04:39] <fivetwentysix> yayyyayayay
[04:39] <Tortel> JK2=fun
[04:40] <Maikeru> It's like the most annoying thing ever
[04:40] <Tortel> does it run on linux??
[04:40] <fivetwentysix> Tortel only with a Windows emulator
[04:40] <Tortel> wine?
[04:40] <Maikeru> if you use Cedega/WineX
[04:40] <Tortel> :(
[04:40] <fivetwentysix> Such as cedega, head over to transgaming.com
[04:40] <fivetwentysix> for more details
[04:40] <Tortel> whats the command to delete a file?
[04:40] <zeus1_> disasm: no...just X-Chat IRC...the terminal and mozilla firefox
[04:41] <sml12> Tortel:  #rm ....
[04:41] <Tortel> yay
[04:42] <disasm> zeus1_: try killall artsd maybe
[04:42] <phrizer> hm, would there be a reason why, or is it normal under linux/gnome for my CPU usage to go right to 100% when i quickly drag a window around? or when i move my mouse quickly it goes up to nearly 50%..? as windows xp didnt  spike  that high im sure.
[04:43] <disasm> phrizer: i dont have that problem
[04:43] <Maikeru> rawr
[04:44] <phrizer> hmm\
[04:44] <pauldaoust> oh murphy.... I am going to shoot this stupid computer
[04:44] <sml12> is there a website to search ubuntu packages?
[04:44] <pauldaoust> with a FRICKIN' TWELVE GAUGE; what do you think?
[04:44] <pauldaoust> gosh...
[04:44] <Tortel> there is a way to do that in ubuntu
[04:44] <pauldaoust> Tortel: to shoot the computer with a frickin' twelve-gauge?
[04:44] <Maikeru> pauldaoust, I was saying that forever
[04:44] <Maikeru> this morning
[04:44] <pauldaoust> Maikeru: these machines have a way of making you feel that way, eh? :)
[04:44] <thellama> what advantages does breezy have? any reason why i should updgrade?
[04:44] <thellama> anyone? im thinking of installing breezy instead of hoary but want to know if it's worth the risk
[04:44] <thellama> yo...
[04:45] <Madpilot> sml12: you can search everything via Synaptic, or go to packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <Tortel> Aplications/System tools/add or remove stuff, advanced
[04:45] <Maikeru> Oh I wanted to hit the laptop with a hammer
[04:45] <pauldaoust> thellama: clipboard manager... yummy :)
[04:45] <Maikeru> fucking wireless WON'T work
[04:45] <Maikeru> At all
[04:45] <sml12> thellama: for sure ... i have with no problems
[04:45] <fivetwentysix> Sigh I got to install java
[04:45] <Maikeru> It absolutely REFUSES
[04:45] <pauldaoust> thellama: I think it has gstreamer 0.9 with DVD support too
[04:45] <Maikeru> stubborn SOB
[04:45] <pauldaoust> Maikeru: can't help ya there; I don't have wireless
[04:45] <pauldaoust> (wish I did tho)
[04:45] <Maikeru> No you don't
[04:45] <vader1102> Maikeru, mine worked out of the box
[04:45] <Maikeru> you wish you were wired
[04:45] <Maikeru> er
[04:45] <pauldaoust> ha
[04:45] <pauldaoust> :)
[04:45] <Maikeru> are glad you are wired
[04:46] <Maikeru> Wired works instantly
[04:46] <Maikeru> Wireless always takes me forever to get working
[04:46] <Maikeru> vader1102, how much did ya pay for it?>
[04:46] <Madpilot> cat5 rock... ;)
[04:46] <Maikeru> I paid $20 for each of my devices
[04:46] <vader1102> 35.00
[04:46] <pauldaoust> you're not the first with wireless problems
[04:46] <Madpilot> *rocks, even...
[04:46] <Maikeru> $20 for USB and $20 for PCMCIA
[04:46] <Maikeru> See, $35 I would spend
[04:46] <Maikeru> for it to work out of box
[04:46] <pauldaoust> my problem is that I can't seem to get sound working... properly.
[04:46] <Maikeru> I just can't spen $50+ on a wireless card
[04:46] <Maikeru> I hate doing that
[04:46] <vader1102> dwl-g650
[04:46] <Maikeru> I have dwl-650
[04:46] <sml12> Madpilot: cool .. thanks. :)
[04:46] <disasm> Maikeru: whats your output of iwconfig?
[04:46] <Maikeru> Not 650+, no, of course not
[04:46] <Maikeru> but 650
[04:47] <vader1102> 650
[04:47] <Maikeru> lo no wireless
[04:47] <FatDarrel> Maikeru, get the atheros a/b/g NEC PWL something card on ebay
[04:47] <vader1102> not the +
[04:47] <Maikeru> sit0 no wireless
[04:47] <thellama> so would you all recommend me updgrading to breezy as a linux noob? (although i do call myself an osx power user 8)
[04:47] <pauldaoust> it works, but it's soooo slow and drawn-out that it sounds like a horror film... I've been looking everywhere for the solution; watching top as the X session starts up, looking for a program that could be causing the problem...
[04:47] <pauldaoust> because the weird thing is that sound starts out great, then goes slow a few seconds into session startup.
[04:47] <Tortel> gah
[04:47] <FatDarrel> I have had wirless problems only with the cisco cards most of the other crap seems to work or kind of works
[04:47] <Tortel> enemy terrotory doesnt work
[04:47] <Tortel> :(
[04:47] <Maikeru> I want to strangle d-link
[04:47] <Maikeru> this card is such a bitch
[04:47] <disasm> what about modprobe adm8211
[04:48] <FatDarrel> Tortel, good game but old get something new
[04:48] <Maikeru> I can't even have it to have a MMCX port
[04:48] <Tortel> it lowers my resolution and leaves a black spot on my screen
[04:48] <FatDarrel> Maikeru, what chipset ?
[04:48] <Maikeru> (I've tried, you can see knife marks on the bottom :))
[04:48] <Maikeru> FatDarrel, no idea
[04:48] <thellama> so then maybe i shouldnt upgrade...
[04:48] <Maikeru> I can't find out which
[04:48] <Maikeru> but I'm trying to use the ndiswrapper
[04:48] <Maikeru> It's the DWL-650 Revision P
[04:48] <FatDarrel> Maikeru, what type of card ?
[04:48] <Maikeru> but I dunno which chipset
[04:48] <Tortel> shit
[04:48] <Maikeru> PCMCIA/Cardbus
[04:48] <FatDarrel> Maikeru, try ndiswrapper
[04:48] <Tortel> this isnt good
[04:48] <Maikeru> I'd say it's a cardbus not pcmcia
[04:48] <Maikeru> I did
[04:48] <Maikeru> I did pcmcia
[04:48] <Tortel> i cant acess my gnome menus
[04:49] <Tortel> and i cant quit ET
[04:49] <Maikeru> seveas told me to apt-get install linux-686
[04:49] <Maikeru> so I did
[04:49] <vader1102> Maikeru, the dwl-g650 has worked awsome for me under Ubuntu
[04:49] <Maikeru> but it will refuses to work
[04:49] <Maikeru> vader1102, I envy you
[04:49] <thellama> poll: should i updgrade to breezy?
[04:49] <vader1102> one sec and I will tell you the kernel
[04:49] <disasm> thellama: i'm a seasoned linux guy, and i'm still using hoary (i tried the breezy installer and something was seriously broken, to the point i couldn't execute a binary using ./name_of_binary (i was trying to run firefox from a nightly release)
[04:49] <Tortel> how do i safely reboot without acess to anything but XChat??
[04:50] <vader1102> Maikeru, 2.6.10-5-386
[04:50] <Tortel> or term a process???
[04:50] <thellama> thanks disasm
[04:50] <Maikeru> vader1102, I've tried this ndiswrapper on that and on 2.6.10-5-386
[04:50] <Maikeru> lol
[04:50] <Maikeru> Soooooo annoying
[04:50] <Maikeru> I need Seveas to respond
[04:50] <Maikeru> but he seems to be idle
[04:50] <Tortel> heLP~!!
[04:50] <Maikeru> He was helping me earlier and I think he might be able to get this goin for me
[04:51] <vader1102> I did mine with the stock madwifi
[04:51] <Tortel> i cant acess gnome
[04:51] <zeus1_> disasm: didint work
[04:51] <Tortel> cause of enemy territory
[04:51] <Tortel> :(
[04:51] <thellama> i just installed firestarter, how do i start it?
[04:51] <yonkel-lappy> i still cannot get my lcd to engage
[04:51] <disasm> zeus1_: hmmm, you have something locking the module...
[04:51] <Maikeru> what's firestarter?
[04:51] <thellama> firewall
[04:51] <Maikeru> oh
[04:51] <vader1102> Maikeru,  he may have gone to sleep, he has been in here every time I have been and stayed when I left
[04:51] <Maikeru> I knew I heard that somewhere
[04:51] <Maikeru> darn
[04:51] <thellama> :)
[04:52] <disasm> only thing i can think of is ctrl-alt-bksp to kill x, then rmmod it from cli, and go back into X
[04:52] <Maikeru> :)
[04:52] <thellama> phone # online huh?
[04:52] <Maikeru> Looking for his house phone
[04:52] <Maikeru> lol
[04:52] <thellama> lol
[04:52] <Maikeru> Call him in the middle of the night for support
[04:52] <thellama> really?
[04:52] <Maikeru> No
[04:52] <Maikeru> Of course not
[04:52] <thellama> hehehe
[04:52] <Maikeru> I enjoy being allowed in this chan
[04:52] <disasm> Maikeru: i believe it should be running, theres a config utility somewhere in the menus, i never used it before though
[04:52] <Tortel> does the command "reboot" in the terminal reboot safely????!?
[04:53] <Drajka> ;/ is there a reason that most/all the apps I install aren't ending up on the applications menu?
[04:53] <Maikeru> disasm, a config file for networking?
[04:53] <Maikeru> System > Administration > Networking?
[04:53] <disasm> Tortel: yeah
[04:53] <thellama> Drajka: ya, why is that happenikng to me?
[04:53] <Maikeru> Drajka: Yeah, they don't add themselves
[04:53] <Tortel> ok
[04:53] <Tortel> ill brb
[04:53] <Maikeru> but use Smeg to add them yourself
[04:53] <vader1102> Tortel, if you do it like sudo /sbin/reboot -h now
[04:53] <thellama> so how do i add them Maikeru?
[04:53] <thellama> oh
[04:53] <Drajka> Smeg?
[04:53] <thellama> sorry
[04:53] <Maikeru> Use a program called smeg
[04:54] <thellama> didnt see that
[04:54] <Maikeru> it's a menu editing program
[04:54] <Drajka> I mean.. the problem for me is... I'll install something with synaptic..
[04:54] <Maikeru> sudo apt-get install smeg
[04:54] <Maikeru> Yeah
[04:54] <IcemanV9> Drajka: killall gnome-panel?
[04:54] <Drajka> But I often wont remember I installed it
[04:54] <Drajka> and i'll never find it.
[04:54] <disasm> Maikeru: that comment was for thellama with his firestarter
[04:54] <Maikeru> so add it right away
[04:54] <Maikeru> disasm, oh
[04:54] <thellama> thanks :)
[04:54] <zeus1_> disasm: wat was the command again when i did ctrl alt bksp it logged out of linux
[04:54] <thellama> ah, i found firestarter in system tools!
[04:55] <disasm> zeus1_: it kills X
[04:55] <Maikeru> now
[04:55] <zeus1_> whats X
[04:55] <Maikeru> since I don't have wireless working on my laptop
[04:55] <disasm> zeus1_: the problem is if you have gdm running, gdm, will come right back up...
[04:55] <Maikeru> Give me a minute while I go shoot myself.
[04:55] <Maikeru> Good day.
[04:55] <Maikeru> If you want to get into a console press Ctrl-Alt-F1-F5 or somethin like that
[04:55] <zeus1_> disasm whats X
[04:55] <Maikeru> F6 or F7 is gdm
[04:56] <Maikeru> zeus1_, it's the server that allows gdm to run, etc.
[04:56] <pauldaoust> zeus1_: X is the server that gives you graphics instead of text
[04:56] <Maikeru> it's a display server basically
[04:56] <Maikeru> Now, brb while I shoot myself (rather, I should just shoot this ANNOYING!!! wireless card)
[04:56] <zeus1_> k
[04:56] <zeus1_> what was the command
[04:56] <zeus1_> rmmod something
[04:57] <disasm> zeus1_: you can always try ctrl alt f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop; rmmod snd-intel8x0
[04:57] <disasm> zeus1_: X is the graphical version of linux
[04:58] <zeus1_> ok its not working :(
[04:58] <thellama> help, im sorta new to firewalls and stuff (in osx it's basically just automatic), what ports should i enable?
[04:58] <pauldaoust> I'm really sorry I keep whining about this, but is there anyone, anyone who can help a poor guy with ALSA problems?
[04:58] <pauldaoust> a guy who has to set up about twenty computers in a classroom network before school starts on Tuesday?
[04:58] <disasm> thellama: well, i've never used a firewall on a desktop, just don't run any services and you'll be fine
[04:59] <thellama> what kind of services?
[04:59] <pauldaoust> would you at least help a guy whose mum is dying of cancer? *sniff*
[04:59] <pauldaoust> okay, so my mum isn't dying of cancer
[04:59] <disasm> thellama: webserver, mailserver, samba server, etc...
[04:59] <thellama> ah ok
[04:59] <Maikeru> Sure
[04:59] <thellama> would torrents be ok?
[04:59] <disasm> pauldaoust: did you try an alternate wm for troubleshooting?
[04:59] <Maikeru> Tell her to go party
[05:00] <IcemanV9> !tell pauldaoust about sound
[05:00] <thellama> would it make torrents/chat/browsing slower?
[05:00] <pauldaoust> disasm: yes; it worked famously. so the problem is in GNOME somewhere, and I know it's not ESD
[05:00] <pauldaoust> IcemanV9: tried every last thing there
[05:00] <thellama> maybe i should just disable firewall
[05:00] <IcemanV9> :/
[05:00] <Maikeru> !tell maikeru about sound
[05:00] <pauldaoust> anyway, my problems are all backwards... sound in Java and Flash work fine; it's everything else that doesn't work.
[05:00] <Maikeru> hmm
[05:00] <Maikeru> sorry
[05:00] <catphive> hey. my gnome session is screwed up launch freezes up when trying to open metacity. the "safe" session launches fine. how do I reset my session or my startup script or whatever?
[05:00] <Maikeru> wanted to read something
[05:01] <zeus1_> gah forget it...i gues i have to just face the fact that my headset is never going to work in linux...
[05:01] <X6> how do i create a channel?
[05:01] <Maikeru> oh lord
[05:01] <X6> ummm...
[05:01] <yonkel-lappy> i can get gdm to start but the lcd is still blank! i am on a dell inpsiron 6000 laptop.  i tried to reconfigure and edit my xorg.conf but with no success.....
[05:01] <thellama> would a firewall with all ports closed make my browsing/torrents slower?
[05:02] <disasm> thellama: probly not
[05:02] <Maikeru> wtf
[05:02] <zeus1_> thanks anyway for the help...later all
[05:02] <Maikeru> how do you get / in your host
[05:02] <disasm> thellama: errr, torrents yeah
[05:02] <Maikeru> or is that a vhost?
[05:02] <Maikeru> grm
[05:02] <thellama> oh
[05:02] <thellama> hmm
[05:02] <disasm> thellama: cause torrents need to upload
[05:02] <thellama> true
[05:02] <thellama> so firewall doesnt allow upload?
[05:02] <thellama> then how is this all working?
[05:03] <thellama> or does it have an upload limit?
[05:03] <Maikeru> he said torrents would
[05:03] <Maikeru> er
[05:03] <Maikeru> wait
[05:03] <Maikeru> nvm
[05:03] <Maikeru> I'm tired
[05:03] <Maikeru> I can't answer shit
[05:03] <thellama> lol
[05:03] <Maikeru> unless you want to end up with rm -rf / typed in console
[05:03] <disasm> thellama: 6881-6999
[05:03] <IcemanV9> does ubuntu have mount_ufs2?? do breezy have it now?
[05:03] <Maikeru> (Which I typed earlier on my laptop, was tempted to press enter, I still might)
[05:04] <disasm> thellama: bittorent needs a port for people to download from you while you download from others, im not sure quite how it works, but i know oyu need ports open to get optimal speeds
[05:05] <disasm> Maikeru: feeling suicidal eh?
[05:05] <Maikeru> disasm, my wireless card won't work
[05:05] <Maikeru> :(
[05:05] <disasm> pauldaoust: you could ps aux before gnome starts and ps aux after and see what process differences there are
[05:06] <thellama> thanks guys/gals for all your help! :)
[05:06] <Maikeru> You trying to call me a heshe?
[05:06] <Maikeru> Boy, I'll kick your ass! :)
[05:06] <ToyMan> wondering if someone could help me with my compiler confusion....
[05:06] <IcemanV9> Maikeru: did you check the wireless support page in ubuntu wiki??
[05:06] <Maikeru> I've checked everything
[05:06] <disasm> ToyMan: whats wrong?
[05:06] <Maikeru> it's possible to get this card to work
[05:06] <ToyMan> I have gcc-3.3-base / gcc-3.4 / gcc-3.4 base and gcc-4.0 base installed
[05:06] <Maikeru> but one thing requires kernel recompile
[05:06] <Maikeru> and I'm not up for that
[05:07] <ToyMan> but when I try to compile anything I get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[05:07] <IcemanV9> ndiswrapper??
[05:07] <Maikeru> heh
[05:07] <ToyMan> so I went in to bash_profiles and edited my path to include /usr/lib/gcc, where the compiler seems to be residing...
[05:07] <Maikeru> I tried ndis
[05:07] <pauldaoust> disasm: *sad smile* actually, I took it one step further... I log into the computer using SSH, run top, and watch exactly what programs appear and disappear as the session starts... nothing that looks significant, as far as I can see
[05:07] <disasm> Maikeru: ndiswrapper doesnt need a recompile, at least i dont think it does...
[05:07] <ToyMan> and I keep getting the same error msg...
[05:07] <wulfy814> good evening folks!
[05:07] <Maikeru> disasm, I know
[05:07] <wulfy814> I'm having difficulty install server mode of Hoary on Dell PE700
[05:07] <Maikeru> I've tried ndis and it won't work
[05:07] <Maikeru> I found something else that does require kernel recompile
[05:07] <wulfy814> it's failing with a "Load installer components from CD" failure
[05:07] <pauldaoust> IcemanV9: thanks for the link, but I've tried all the standard attempts to get sound working properly already... this is one of those crazy problems that don't seem to make sense
[05:07] <Maikeru> ndis should work
[05:07] <Maikeru> which is why I wanna talk to seveas
[05:08] <Maikeru> He was walkin me through it earlier
[05:08] <wulfy814> turn out it's something with the SATA drivers and not detecting the CDROM
[05:08] <Maikeru> but had to leave
[05:08] <disasm> pauldaoust: well if you have a list of the differences, you can kill the processes one at a time until sound returns to normal
[05:08] <Maikeru> it's like
[05:08] <Davey> Anyone else here have the Logitech MX 700 mouse and keyboard combo?
[05:08] <wulfy814> anyone else have this failure? or know a workaround?
[05:08] <Maikeru> my drivers are loaded
[05:08] <Maikeru> pcmcia card gets power
[05:08] <disasm> pauldaoust: is it on all the machines, or just one?
[05:08] <pauldaoust> disasm: ...
[05:08] <wulfy814> I also had Gnome-Baker recently blow up
[05:08] <Maikeru> but it seems like it just doesn't get recognized by ubuntu as being plugged in
[05:08] <Maikeru> like if I tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:08] <Maikeru> and put the card in
[05:08] <wulfy814> now it won't start - just fails and wants to send bug report
[05:08] <Maikeru> nothing new happens
[05:08] <Maikeru> ;/
[05:08] <Cashel> Hello... can anyone tell me how to ununstall something installed with alien -i ? also can I have glibc2.3.2 and 2.3.4 both installed? thanks...
[05:09] <wulfy814> must have been after the latest apt-get upgrade
[05:09] <Maikeru> Cashel: try apt-get remove <name>
[05:09] <pauldaoust> disasm: I never thought to check; I'm so busy trying to get the first computer ready that I never thought of trying the other ones... I'm gonna end up ghosting the install onto the other machines, and I wanted to get it working perfectly before I do that... but maybe I should try that out.
[05:09] <Davey> Cashel, dpkg -i you mean?
[05:09] <Cashel> Maikeru: tried it, doesnt find the package...
[05:09] <Davey> Cashel, find it in Synaptic and remove it
[05:09] <pauldaoust> disasm: (same hardware on all machines, incidentally)
[05:09] <Cashel> no alien -i ... it was an rpm ....
[05:09] <Davey> Cashel, OK, for future reference, just do "alien *.rpm" and it'll convert to a .deb which you can manage with apt-get/synaptic
[05:09] <disasm> pauldaoust: also, possibly install kde, it's similar to gnome, and it might not have problems...
[05:10] <pauldaoust> disasm: there's that possibility, too, but I wanted to stick to GNOME because I'm more familiar with it and I'm the admin
[05:10] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: you need to open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg"  you might try the VESA driver
[05:10] <thellama> :)
[05:10] <pauldaoust> disasm: I might have to end up doing that though..............
[05:10] <Cashel> Davey: tried that at first, could figure out how to get apt-get to reckognize it (tried the filename - the .deb part, and then minus the version parts too, no luck) .. kinda new to debian..
[05:10] <disasm> Cashel: alien rpm_name.rpm then dpkg -i rpm_name.deb
[05:11] <Davey> Cashel, dpkg -i *.deb to install it
[05:11] <Maikeru> I just alien -di name.rpm
[05:11] <Cashel> dpkg ahhh thanks...
[05:11] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: i tried to reconfigure it...no dice. my chipset should need the i810 driver as indicated here: http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html
[05:11] <ToyMan> disasm: ok, i'm finding gcc 3.4 in /usr/bin which *is* in my path
[05:11] <Davey> yeah, its a PITA ;)
[05:11] <thellama> should i upgrade to breezy? what are the main new things about it? new features? new gnome??
[05:11] <Cashel> Maikeru: and how do you undo when you do that?
[05:11] <Maikeru> alien -di turns it into .deb then installs
[05:11] <Maikeru> I think I've always found it in synaptic
[05:11] <disasm> thellama: didn't we just go through this already??? ;-)
[05:11] <thellama> yes... ;)
[05:12] <Cashel> hmm ok... what about mutltiple glibc's installed?? Is that do-able??
[05:12] <disasm> Maikeru: apt-get remove <name_of_package> can probly find it in dpkg -l
[05:12] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: you can check my current xorg.conf and the output of ddcprobe at http://www.bluefacemonkey.com/personal/laptop
[05:12] <thellama> but are there any groundbreaking new things??
[05:12] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: the VESA driver will drive your card w/o a problem
[05:12] <disasm> Maikeru: if you really want it gon, apt-get --purge remove name_of_package
[05:12] <Maikeru> disasm, I know how to remove it
[05:12] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: ok let me try it and i'll get back to ya
[05:12] <Maikeru> it's cashel that din
[05:12] <catphive> hey. does anyone know about how to reset a session? mine is messed up and I can't log in to that account
[05:13] <catphive> a gnome session
[05:13] <Maikeru> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[05:13] <Cashel> Maikeru: should I take that as a no? heh
[05:13] <catphive> ctr-alt-backspace?
[05:13] <Maikeru> Cashel: What do you mean?
[05:13] <Maikeru> catphive, press ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:13] <Maikeru> should reboot gdm
[05:13] <Maikeru> (gdm being Gnome Display Manager)
[05:13] <disasm> ToyMan: you get the error when you run make? or is this running gcc in general?
[05:14] <catphive> thanks. I'll give that a shot
 it's cashel that din ??? Didnt follow you...
[05:14] <Maikeru> Oh, I was telling disasm that you didn't know how to uninstall a package after you used alien, not I
[05:14] <Maikeru> he got us mixed up
[05:14] <Cashel> Ohhh right, thanks :)
[05:15] <ramblingturtle> how would i go about upgrading to breezy from hoary?
[05:15] <Cashel> so are multiple glibc versions ok?? Or will it cause nightmarish problems for me? (or can I symlink 2.3.2 to 2.3.4 and pray it works out?)
[05:15] <ramblingturtle> with lets say apt-get or something
[05:15] <IcemanV9> !tell ramblingturtle about upgrade
[05:16] <disasm> ramblingturtle: i would advice against it, but switch sources.list to breezy, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade - but dont say i didnt warn you...
[05:16] <disasm> s/advice/advise
[05:16] <ramblingturtle> disasm thank you
[05:16] <ToyMan> disasm: i get the error when running configure
[05:17] <disasm> pauldaoust: another idea, pull the hd out of the current computer, plop it in another, and see if it works
[05:17] <disasm> what are you configuring?
[05:17] <Cashel> is breezy "stable" ?
[05:17] <ToyMan> a prg called taskjuggler
[05:17] <disasm> Cashel: not by a long shot ;-)
[05:17] <Cashel> Ahh good
[05:17] <IcemanV9> !breezy
[05:17] <ubotu> I heard breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:17] <johndarkhorse> ToyMan:  install 'build-essential"
[05:18] <Cashel> danka
[05:18] <disasm> ToyMan: do have gcc installed? try which gcc
[05:19] <yonkel-lappy> omg it works
[05:19] <bytefoo> why do all my dvds look interlaced
[05:19] <disasm> or possibly its in c++ and you need g++...
[05:19] <yonkel-lappy> IT WORKS
[05:19] <bytefoo> even though i have deinterlace on :(
[05:19] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: YAY! it works
[05:19] <bytefoo> in totem :(
[05:19] <ToyMan> I have gcc-3.3-base / gcc-3.4 / gcc-3.4 base and gcc-4.0 base installed
[05:19] <disasm> yonkel-lappy: what works?
[05:19] <ToyMan> which gcc returns zip
[05:20] <yonkel-lappy> disasm: the lcd on my monitor
[05:20] <disasm> ah, cool
[05:20] <durt> you might need glib or gtk or something
[05:20] <Drajka> pff.
[05:20] <disasm> it should return /usr/bin/gcc
[05:20] <Drajka> I can't get fsking DVDs to work in Ubuntu
[05:21] <jroes> anyone's totem just crash while playing music?
[05:21] <jroes> like, it'll play 3/4 of a song and just crash?
[05:21] <vader1102> I can't get mine to play MP3 format lol
[05:21] <jroes> and... can anyone play mp3s off of a cd in rhthymbox?
[05:21] <durt> !restricted
[05:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:21] <IcemanV9> jroes: install bmp :)
[05:21] <ToyMan> disasm: if i look in /usr/bin, gcc-3.4 is there
[05:22] <jroes> beep media player?
[05:22] <jroes> oh that's right
[05:22] <ToyMan> brb
[05:22] <Cashel> jroes: I couldnt off of an ext3 drive :P
[05:22] <jroes> actually I know the author a little bit ;)
[05:22] <disasm> ToyMan: yes, but its looking for gcc, not gcc-3.4
[05:23] <disasm> ToyMan: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[05:23] <disasm> then try configure
[05:23] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: good show!
[05:23] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: thank you so much. i am really pleased
[05:24] <Cashel> the multiverse?!?!? Oh no! Necromongers!
[05:25] <yonkel-lappy> Cashel: hehe. good film
[05:26] <Cashel> yeah... different certainly...
[05:28] <witless> it seems my canon eos350d is not supported in hoary.  is there any way to access the photos on it?
[05:29] <IcemanV9> card reader?
[05:31] <ToyMan> disasm: I think the build-essential suggestion did it
[05:32] <ebowles> can somebody help me getting 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250 card?
[05:33] <Cashel> ebowles: don't know ubuntu that well but I've done it for my 9600 pro in other distros... whats the problem?
[05:34] <Maikeru> hmm
[05:34] <Maikeru> time to learn more C++ I guess
[05:34] <ebowles> Cashel - I'm not sure. I've followed the instructions on the wiki several times and looked everywhere on the net, still can't get it
[05:34] <Cashel> you change the driver from ati to fglrx?
[05:34] <ebowles> yes
[05:35] <Cashel> or is it fglx?
[05:35] <Cashel> what happens when you startx?
[05:35] <ebowles> what do you mean?
[05:36] <disasm> night all, im off to bed...
[05:36] <Cashel> Well.. traditionaly one starts xwindows using startx .... if it fails to load it will give you a message, as well as putting info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors
[05:36] <ramblingturtle> night
[05:36] <ebowles> yes, its booting fine with fglrx as the driver
[05:36] <ebowles> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1828123
[05:37] <ebowles> has my xorg.conf
[05:39] <Cashel> ebowles: I think perhaps you need to comment out Load "glx" and the "DRI" section...
[05:41] <ebowles> okay, let me restart
[05:41] <Cashel> wish I still had my old x config file, I'd know for sure then....
[05:41] <ebowles> brb
[05:41] <Cashel> ebowles: you dont need to restart linux you know...
[05:42] <ramblingturtle> cashel i guess ebowies didnt know
[05:42] <Cashel> heh
[05:42] <Cashel> well maybe he's using xchat and just had to shut that down....
[05:43] <Cashel> either way hope someone can help him because I have to go pick up my brother, lol
[05:43] <Cashel> thanks for the help folks :)
[05:46] <rileyschuit> Could someone help me with a sound problem?
[05:46] <ramblingturtle> u might want to just state what the problem is
[05:47] <rileyschuit> ok, well i have a ac97 soundcard in my laptop and think I have tried everything to try to get it going
[05:47] <BenM> guys, on breezy i get an error "package ubuntu-quickguide is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[05:47] <BenM> what should I do about this
[05:50] <rileyschuit> is there somewhere I should start?
[05:50] <johndarkhorse> rileyschuit: have you been to wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary    ?
[05:51] <rileyschuit> i have checked the wiki and it told me to get the alsa drivers, it failed
[05:51] <rileyschuit> but I will check that exact site
[05:52] <ebowles> no luck
[05:53] <catphive> hey, does anyone know where the gnome startup script is located and what it's called?
[05:53] <garyc> what architecture is a pentium 2 processor?
[05:53] <GroMmiT> hello?
[05:53] <robertbb> What's the best way to get codecs for totem?
[05:53] <benplaut> !codecs
[05:53] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:54] <robertbb> Rad, thanks! :-)
[05:54] <GroMmiT> Hi robertbb, can you see me?
[05:54] <ebowles> can anybody help me get 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250? I feel like I've tried everything thing
[05:54] <benplaut> GroMmiT, you're on
[05:55] <robertbb> Hmm. Can't even access that site. Get some weird certificate error.
[05:55] <catphive> does anyone know where the gnome startup script is located?
[05:55] <benplaut> robertbb, just click OK to it, firefox complains about the wiki
[05:55] <yonkel-lappy> is the transition to kubuntu-desktop easy?
[05:56] <benplaut> apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[05:56] <robertbb> I did click OK..
[05:56] <robertbb> Cliking OK does nothing :-S
[05:56] <benplaut> i dunno... always worked for me...
[05:56] <GroMmiT> ahh thanks!
[05:56] <robertbb> Always worked for me too
[05:56] <robertbb> heh
[05:57] <robertbb> What's the general jist?
[05:57] <robertbb> How do I get the codecs for it?
[05:58] <john2389> hello
[05:58] <puzzle> is anyone here
[05:59] <ebowles> can anybody help me get 3d acceleration with my ati radeon 9250? I feel like I've tried everything thing
[05:59] <ramblingturtle> puzzle not really i think
[05:59] <puzzle> lol
[05:59] <Madpilot> !tell ebowles about ati
[05:59] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: kubuntu is easy to install
[05:59] <ebowles> Madpilot - been there done that
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> cd plone
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> ops
[06:00] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right? it's not going to overwrite any of the x stuff i just hacked to get working right?
[06:01] <Madpilot> ebowles: check this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ - I'm not sure the ATI stuff works with a 9250 card
[06:01] <matthew_w> Hey
[06:01] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: no it wont
[06:01] <matthew_w> I added the thing to automount my FAT32 drive but...
[06:01] <yonkel-lappy> johndarkhorse: sweet. i'm doing it
[06:01] <ebowles> MadPilot - yes I've done those too :/
[06:01] <matthew_w> Now when I try to write to it it says "cannot write it's on a read only drive"
[06:02] <puzzle> how do u make a dir in terminal
[06:02] <ramblingturtle> mkdir
[06:02] <Madpilot> ebowles: huh. the default Mesa 3d drivers didn't work for you? (I've got a 9600XT, so I do use the /ATI instructions, not sure about your card)
[06:02] <matthew_w> How would I change it so these things are no longer "read only drives"
[06:02] <ebowles> Madpilot - nope, the mesa ones don't work, thats whats there now
[06:03] <ebowles> madpilot and everything I've read says I need to change that
[06:03] <Madpilot> ebowles: check the ubuntu forums?
[06:03] <ramblingturtle> puzzle it would be mkdir then whereever you wanted the dir
[06:03] <ebowles> madpilot - yes, and posted
[06:03] <ramblingturtle> like /home/blahblah
[06:04] <matthew_w> How do you mount FAT32 drives in fstab so that they are not "read only" and for that matter, where IS fstab.
[06:04] <ramblingturtle> look at me ma i answered a ?
[06:04] <johndarkhorse> !tell matthew_w  about ntfs
[06:05] <yonkel-lappy> is ubuntu setup to play dvds?
[06:05] <matthew_w> john; it's got nothing to do with NTFS, they're FAT32 drives.
[06:05] <robertbb> yonkel-lappy, yep
[06:05] <johndarkhorse> matthew_w: run that script ubotu sent you a link to
[06:05] <matthew_w> johndarkhorse; it's got nothing to do with NTFS, they're FAT32 drives.
[06:05] <johndarkhorse> yonkel-lappy: you need to read this
[06:05] <johndarkhorse> !tell yonkel-lappy about restricted
[06:05] <matthew_w> And I realize fat32 is there
[06:06] <matthew_w> I already ran the winmac_fstab script.
[06:06] <matthew_w> They're mounted... they're just read only for some reason.
[06:06] <johndarkhorse> matthew_w: the script works on ntfs, fat32, and hfs+
[06:06] <chibifs> yonkel-lappy - Totem does it, but not very good. Install xine-ui, and run xine dvd:///media/cdrom
[06:06] <johndarkhorse> matthew_w: then modify your fstab to read/write
[06:06] <chibifs> If that doesn't work, you'll need the restricted stuff.
[06:06] <matthew_w> where is FSTab?
[06:07] <GoIrish> it's /etc/fstab
[06:07] <johndarkhorse> matthew_w: /etc/fstab
[06:07] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[06:07] <johndarkhorse> matthew_w: be careful cuz you can mess your system up with the wrong values in the fstab
[06:08] <matthew_w> It already says this
[06:08] <matthew_w> /dev/hdb1 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdb1) vfat rw,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[06:09] <matthew_w> So shouldn't it already be read-write?
[06:09] <matthew_w> I'm trying to download something to that drive and it says "Cannot save FILENAME because it is on a read-only disk."
[06:09] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: your numbers are off... should only be 3 of them
[06:10] <bur[n] er> here's mine:  /dev/hda4       /mnt/hda4 vfat auto,user,uid=000,gid=000,umask=000   0 0
[06:11] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: for reference, run 'man mount'
[06:11] <matthew_w> bur[n] er which numbers are you referring to?
[06:11] <ebowles> can anybody tell me how I can make it so I don't have to manually enable dma every time I restart?
[06:11] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: look at mine and look at yours
[06:12] <bur[n] er> ebowles: check the wiki
[06:12] <bur[n] er> !dma
[06:12] <matthew_w> bur[n] er ... paste em then :D
[06:12] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: i did
[06:12] <bur[n] er> :P
[06:12] <matthew_w> oops
[06:12] <ebowles> bur[n] er - doesn't tell me how to make it so it auto-enabled
[06:13] <bur[n] er> tell ebowles about dma
[06:13] <matthew_w> bur[n] er - perhaps I'm stupid, lol, I don't see what's wrong.
[06:13] <ebowles> yea thanks bur[n] er I've been there
[06:13] <matthew_w> Besides, winmac_fstab added this automatically.
[06:13] <matthew_w> The problem is when I try to save to it it says "Error, cannot save FILENAME because it is on a read only disk"
[06:13] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: you're kidding... see your dmask & fmask, you have 4 number, it expects 3
[06:14] <catphive> anyone know much about gnome?
[06:14] <matthew_w> bur[n] er - Why would winmac_fstab give me faulty values?
[06:14] <bur[n] er> ebowles: read that page more thoroughly
[06:14] <matthew_w> bur[n] er - also, which should I truncate, the beginning 0?
[06:14] <helloyo> i am using a program which uses the paralell port through wine, but it cannot detect my advice, any help?
[06:14] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: you tell me, run man mount
[06:15] <ramblingturtle> carphive define much?
[06:16] <ebowles> bur[n] er - wow you're helpful, thanks
[06:16] <catphive> gnome freezes up for me during launch, but launches fine under "failsafe" session
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[06:32] (mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence i am currently chatting from windoze of the same machine.... if I have to try something out, i need to reboot !! :(
[06:32] (pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: i810 supports the i810, i810-DC100, i810e, i815, 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G and 915G chipsets.
[06:32] (johndarkhorse/#ubuntu) pestilence: you get rid of in, in my opinion
[06:32] (Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) tritumI know you would know
[06:32] (Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) the TK module perl related I guess
[06:32] (tritium/#ubuntu) Dr_Fate: know what?
[06:32] (Dr_Fate/#ubuntu) I have to edit it
[06:32] (pestilence/#ubuntu) johndarkhorse: not really an option.
[06:32] (mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence: so what exactly do I need to do..if I want to do everything again.
[06:32] (pestilence/#ubuntu) johndarkhorse: not my machine.  they want windows too
[06:32] (tritium/#ubuntu) Dr_Fate: no, sorry.  Not something I'd know about
[06:32] (mnssk/#ubuntu) i dont care low res, but I want to see something !!
[06:33] (menaherann/#ubuntu) tritium: well i don't know what are you talking about, but on the control valume i can see my Creative audigy
[06:33] (pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: it sounds like you are already trying i810
[06:33] (pestilence/#ubuntu) mnssk: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/i810.4.html
[06:33] (mnssk/#ubuntu) pestilence: yes I am already trying that
[06:33] <tritium> menaherann: okay.  Have you tried verifying that your volume settings aren't muted?
[06:33] <menaherann> yes
[06:34] <tritium> and the proper modules are loaded?
[06:34] <mnssk> pestilence: Mine is an LCD WIDESCREEN monitor
[06:34] <mnssk> does that matter?
[06:34] <mnssk> pestilence: i dont understand what exactly I need to put in my xorg.conf
[06:35] <menaherann> tritium: i'll try it agian just to be sure
[06:35] <pestilence> mnssk: i have a widescreen too. i had to use 855resolution to get that to work properly
[06:35] <tritium> menaherann: try what?
[06:35] <menaherann> tritium: nothing muted over here!
[06:35] <menaherann> tritium: nothing muted over here!
[06:35] <Madpilot> back in a bit, need to restart Opera...
[06:36] <pestilence> mnssk: possibly a inspiron 6000?
[06:36] <tritium> menaherann: okay.
[06:36] <pestilence> mnssk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44426
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> pestilence: windows can be run on fat32
[06:36] <menaherann> tritium: btw: newbie over here....(sorry)
[06:36] <tavobarrientos> hi
[06:37] <tritium> menaherann: no worries
[06:37] <matthew_w> Hey everyong
[06:37] <pestilence> mnssk: please no pm
[06:37] <matthew_w> I took burner's advice and fixed my stuff, the fmask, dmask etc.  But it still doesn't work.
[06:37] <pestilence> johndarkhorse: yes, but then you can't have file permissions.
[06:37] <pestilence> right/
[06:37] <mnssk> pestilence : sorry, i thought if you PM, the "nick :" thing comes automatically, and u can see my mesgs in red
[06:37] <matthew_w> I still can't write to the FAT32 filesystem.
[06:37] <mnssk> pestilence: did not know u were typing my name
[06:37] <matthew_w> Same error "Read only disk"
[06:38] <pestilence> mnssk: yes :)  my irc client highlights your name if you prefix a message with pestilence:
[06:38] <matthew_w> Any further suggestions?
[06:38] <mnssk> pestilence: then its fine. i thought you were pm-ing me and so i get it red
[06:38] <pestilence> mnssk: nope.
[06:39] <mnssk> pestilence: i dont see anyting from the second link
[06:39] <mnssk> pestilence: sorry..checked only the first page..lemme see the others
[06:40] <menaherann> tritium: are you there?
[06:40] <pestilence> mnssk: well, there seems to be some success using the "vesa" driver.
[06:40] <tritium> menaherann: for a bit longer, yes.
[06:40] <robertbb> How can I find out what video drivers my machine is currently using?
[06:40] <yonkel-lappy> is there an equivilent to debian-chroot in ubuntu?
[06:40] <mnssk> pestilence, where can I get a sample xorg.conf file from !! i am tired of writing it hundreds of times..
[06:40] <masterloki> Hi there it seems that ubuntuguide.org is broken and I can't install mplayer and mp3 ripping
[06:41] <menaherann> tritium: can you think on anything else that might be going on with my sound issue?
[06:41] <pestilence> mnssk: dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:41] <mnssk> pestilence,  did that atleast 10 times
[06:41] <tritium> menaherann: not sure...
[06:41] <masterloki> where can I find a new manual
[06:41] <mnssk> pestilence,  and also one thing :: the error says :: BUS ON PCI 0:2:0 has some problem
[06:41] <pestilence> mnssk: well, what i would do is cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig
[06:41] <pestilence> mnssk: then edit xorg.conf...
[06:41] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah i did that
[06:42] <mnssk> pestilence, can I use the xorg.conf posted here :: just advice me :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44426&page=3&pp=10
[06:42] <matthew_w> I cannot write to my FAT32 disks because when mounted in FSTAB they yield the error "cannot copy file to location because it is a read only disk"
[06:42] <pestilence> mnssk: i would give it a shot.  do you know what version bios you have?
[06:42] <matthew_w> Errorno30
[06:43] <mnssk> I think I have a A05 or A07
[06:43] <mnssk> pestilence,  can I check it via windows ?
[06:43] <pestilence> mnssk: you should check the pci busid with lspci...
[06:43] <pestilence> mnssk: no idea.
[06:43] <mnssk> pestilence, can i find it from windows somehow ?
[06:44] <Madpilot> ook. tweaking Opera's filter lists is entertaining... ;)
[06:44] <mnssk> pestilence, I checked lspci too..lspci lists something which i dont understand :(
[06:44] <Madpilot> managed to filter myself out of *everything* with one typo
[06:44] <mnssk> pestilence, lspci says the bus is at 0000:00:2a
[06:44] <mnssk> pestilence,  or something like that....and the bus I gave is 0:2:0 -- is that a format difference ? or is it a different number that I am looking at..i dont know
[06:46] <pestilence> mnssk: i'm not sure.
[06:46] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah..the BUS Is correct
[06:47] <mnssk> pestilence, i have checked it in windos
[06:47] <mnssk> pestilence, i will tell you my bios now
[06:47] <mnssk> pestilence, pls give me 2 min
[06:47] <masterloki> Hi there it seems that ubuntuguide.org is broken and I can't install mplayer and mp3 ripping
[06:47] <masterloki> where can I find a new manual
[06:47] <johndarkhorse> masterloki: ubuntuguide is always broken, please dont use it
[06:47] <mrimbert> masterloki: the wiki
[06:47] <masterloki> _
[06:47] <masterloki> Ok
[06:47] <mrimbert> see the UserDocumentation in the topic
[06:47] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[06:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[06:48] <masterloki> thanks
[06:48] <mnssk> pestilence, i think my bios is A05 only
[06:48] <mnssk> pestilence, shall I try this xorg.conf and get back to you ?
[06:49] <Madpilot> that ubuntuguide entry really should point people to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - that's were all the useful-to-newbies stuff begins, really
[06:50] <regeya> who runs ubuntuguide, anyway
[06:50] <Madpilot> no idea
[06:50] <mnssk> pestilence, you there ?
[06:50] <haja> What do you guys use to play movie files in Linux? I used Mplayer and it works pretty good but I was looking for something a little less flashy and such...
[06:50] <Madpilot> I gather there was some co-operation with the official Ubuntu doc teams at one point, but it's stopped since... too bad
[06:51] <Madpilot> haja: Totem, no flash at all. It "just works"...
[06:51] <chibifs> Does anyone have mark's email? I have a serious question for him, and I'm afraid to call him. :P
[06:51] <mnssk> pestilence, but you can see something on the screen of inspiron 6000 is it ?
[06:51] <haja> I've had problems with Totem... maybe I need to download some plugins...?
[06:51] <chibifs> haja - totem-xine
[06:52] <haja> Download that?
[06:52] <chibifs> Xine is a much more established movie player than gstreamer.
[06:52] <haja> Ok so should I remove the totem that isbased off gstreamer?
[06:52] <chibifs> If you want to use it to play movies, yes. :P
[06:52] <Madpilot> !tell haja about restricted
[06:53] <Madpilot> haja: the URL ubotu just sent you has all the codec/plugin info you need
[06:53] <mnssk> pestilence, okay
[06:53] <mnssk> pestilence, i will reboot..try the xorg.conf and get back to you
[06:53] <mnssk> pestilence, thanx for the help...
[06:53] <haja> Ok but do you use xine or gstreamer?
[06:53] <robertbb> How can I tell what version of XOrg is running?
[06:55] <haja> When I go to remove the gstreamer it says its wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also....
[06:55] <johndarkhorse> haja: that is fine, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapkg
[06:56] <Agrajag> don't remove gstreamer
[06:56] <Agrajag> don't remove gstreamer
[06:56] <Agrajag> install totem-xine
[06:56] <haja> just install it and don't remove the other?
[06:56] <Agrajag> it'll remove totem-gstreamer for you
[06:56] <haja> ho
[06:56] <haja> ok
[06:56] <haja> oh*
[06:56] <haja> Thanks
[06:56] <Agrajag> yes, you need gstreamer for other things
[06:56] <Agrajag> like rhythmbox, if you use that
[06:56] <chibifs> haja - that's normal, just remember to re-check ubuntu-desktop between system upgrades
[06:56] <haja> no... I use BMP
[06:57] <haja> ok thanks chibifs
[06:57] <Agrajag> haja: well in any case there's no reason to remove it
[06:57] <haja> hehe
[06:57] <haja> thanks :D
[06:57] <Agrajag> just install totem-xine and it'll be done with, and you'll still have ubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <h17m4n> Whats a good download manager for linux?
[07:02] <h17m4n> having to start dls over is a pain
[07:03] <chibifs> d4x
[07:03] <Madpilot> h17m4n: doesn't Firefox's DL manager do that? (although FF's DLmngr is by FAR the worst feature of that browser...)
[07:03] <h17m4n> it doesn't
[07:04] <h17m4n> my connection went down and I had to log in again
[07:04] <h17m4n> I was dling a file on ff
[07:04] <h17m4n> 83%
[07:04] <h17m4n> and it won't resume
[07:04] <Madpilot> h17m4n: get Opera, it's got a great DL manager included... supports resumes, etc
[07:04] <johndarkhorse> h17m4n: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[07:04] <pestilence> h17m4n: firefox supports resumes too, no?
[07:04] <pestilence> h17m4n: just open the dl manager (tools...downloads) and right click...resume
[07:05] <johndarkhorse> h17m4n: i love wget, it rocks. (and resumes)
[07:05] <johndarkhorse> Madpilot: eeewww, Opera isn't FOSS
[07:05] <Madpilot> Firefox's basic DL manager is one of the major reasons I'm still an Opera user
[07:06] <Madpilot> johndarkhorse: no, but it's still a better browser than FF right now!
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> Madpilot: there is a download extenstion for firefox
[07:06] <h17m4n> but opera isnt free... or is it?
[07:06] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, wget will even resume a download that you started via another app, right?
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> h17m4n: it's free as in beer, not free as in freedom
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: yes, unless the other app uses some weird method of d/l
[07:06] <Madpilot> johndarkhorse: I know I could extend FF to do most of what Opera does, but Opera does all that stuff right out of the box...
[07:07] <volvoguy> h17m4n, no - Opera isn't free in any sense of the word. (unfortunately)
[07:07] <h17m4n> too bad...
[07:07] <Madpilot> h17m4n: current version of Opera has a two-line text ad across the top
[07:07] <h17m4n> because FF's resume feature doesnt work at all
[07:08] <h17m4n> it doesnt work under windows, and it doesnt work under linux
[07:08] <snausages> hey all, im trying to download the latest live cd iso and would like to know what the best way is to do that. i hate trying to burn the iso and then finding out that it's corrupted or somethin'
[07:08] <h17m4n> it works if YOU pause it, but not if the connection goes down
[07:09] <pestilence> snausages: use md5sum to verify the file before you burn it
[07:09] <pestilence> snausages: man md5sum
[07:09] <chibifs> volvoguy - Well, they did do that give out lots of free opera keys thing.
[07:10] <Agrajag> they gave ou tthe same key to everyone
[07:10] <chibifs> Though I despise it's QTness.
[07:10] <Agrajag> and they're no longer valid
[07:10] <volvoguy> chibifs, yeah, but it must have been pretty short. all i do all day is surf the web and i missed it somehow. doh!
[07:10] <h17m4n> volvoguy, but those lines allow you to use all features or is it limited?
[07:10] <Madpilot> Agrajag: you talking about the Opera 10th birthday party thing? that was cool, I've got ad-free Opera now!
[07:11] <Agrajag> h17m4n: it's unlimited
[07:11] <volvoguy> h17m4n, it's unlimited if you don't mind looking at the ads.
[07:11] <chibifs> I rebooted this morning! Loving the startup screen.
[07:11] <chibifs> :D
[07:11] <h17m4n> hmm
[07:11] <h17m4n> I'll try it
[07:11] <sockpuppe1> I think I made a big mistake with openoffice
[07:11] <sockpuppe1> as we know we have 1.1.3
[07:11] <h17m4n> thx for the suggestion
[07:11] <sockpuppe1> but Im on the beta edge of life
[07:11] <snausages> pestilence, how would i use the md5sum?
[07:12] <sockpuppe1> and I wanted 2.0
[07:12] <jack-> hi
[07:12] <Madpilot> h17m4n: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for Ubuntu-izing Opera
[07:12] <volvoguy> sockpuppe1, i think openoffice made a mistake with openoffice. :-P i had to say it. hehe.
[07:12] <jack-> little question
[07:12] <snausages> you see i'm a newb
[07:12] <jack-> Package avifile-xvid-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:12] <sockpuppe1> so I took all the rpms and made them into debs
[07:12] <jack-> anyone got an idea where to get that stuff?
[07:12] <sockpuppe1> lol volvoguy
[07:12] <volvoguy> sockpuppe1, OO.org is at version 2 in Breezy.
[07:12] <sockpuppe1> i kno
[07:12] <jack-> its suggested by "libavifile-0.7c102"
[07:13] <johndarkhorse> jack-: you'll have to have apt-get build it for you
[07:13] <Madpilot> OOo2 is in the Hoary repos, even
[07:13] <volvoguy> I prefer abiword and gnumeric personally.
[07:13] <sockpuppe1> really?
[07:13] <jack-> johndarkhorse: how
[07:13] <sockpuppe1> madpilot how do i install
[07:13] <jack-> the line i pasted is from apt-get
[07:13] <tritium> sockpuppe1, 2.0o betas are available as .deb packages in the repos
[07:13] <sockpuppe1> hello tritium
[07:13] <tritium> hi sockpuppe1
[07:13] <Madpilot> sockpuppe1: install what? OO2? it's in the repos, just search Synaptic
[07:13] <johndarkhorse> jack-: open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[07:14] <sockpuppe1> apt-get what
[07:14] <sockpuppe1> ?
[07:14] <jack-> sounds good, thx
[07:14] <johndarkhorse> jack-: then type "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"
[07:14] <jack-> just thought i might be missing a source in apt.conf maybe
[07:14] <firebird619> Can anyone suggest a program to download so I can tune and listen to radio stations from my TV Tuner Card?
[07:14] <johndarkhorse> jack-: you do have all your repos enabled?
[07:14] <Madpilot> sockpuppe1: not sure of the exact filename for OOo2, just use Synaptic's search
[07:15] <jack-> yes
[07:15] <tritium> sockpuppe1, apt-cache search openoffice.org2
[07:15] <jack-> and i added debian/stable
[07:15] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[07:15] <johndarkhorse> jack-: using debian repos WILL KILL your box
[07:16] <jack-> i had to, because of vlc :<
[07:16] <sockpuppe1> it asks to install gcc4.0-base
[07:16] <jack-> but i can remove them if you say so
[07:16] <tritium> jack-, no
[07:16] <sockpuppe1> should I?
[07:16] <mnssk> pestilence, you there ??
[07:16] <sockpuppe1> what you think tritium
[07:17] <sockpuppe1> ?
[07:17] <mnssk> pestilence, I have tried it, and none of them worked
[07:17] <chibifs> johndarkhorse - I've mixed distro repositories before, my hardware seems to all still be in working order :P
[07:17] <jack-> i lost my worries after i saw synaptic tags debian/stable as "officially supported"
[07:17] <jack-> heh
[07:17] <tritium> sockpuppe1, what tells you that?
[07:17] <tritium> when you try to install openoffice.org2?
[07:17] <sockpuppe1> apt-get
[07:17] <penticlex> any one using ubunto 64
[07:17] <sockpuppe1> sure thing
[07:18] <penticlex> and know how to get java working
[07:18] <mnssk> I Have my Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf and ddcprobe output.... can anyone tell me why my Dell Inspiron is not showing anything up when X is started ? (console works)
[07:18] <tritium> sockpuppe1, up to you
[07:18] <sockpuppe1> will it cause a problem?
[07:18] <tritium> penticlex, install java-package, and use make-jpkg
[07:18] <mnssk> hi there : need help badly !!
[07:18] <johndarkhorse> chibifs: it's generally a bad idea to mix debian repos with ubuntu
[07:18] <tritium> sockpuppe1, are you using hoary or breezy?
[07:18] <mnssk> I Have my Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf and ddcprobe output.... can anyone tell me why my Dell Inspiron is not showing anything up when X is started ? (console works)
[07:18] <sockpuppe1> hoary
[07:19] <tritium> sockpuppe1, that sounds strange to me
[07:19] <eggdrop408> does anyone know where i can get a freeshell
[07:19] <Madpilot> penticlex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 might help (I don't run 64 myself...)
[07:19] <mnssk> hi there
[07:19] <mnssk> anyone up for some help here..
[07:19] <sockpuppe1> what should I do tritium
[07:19] <adwait> hello all
[07:20] <tritium> sockpuppe1, it's up to you, dude
[07:20] <mnssk> dell inspirion 6000 with Ubunty Hoary
[07:20] <eggdrop408> hello adwait
[07:20] <eggdrop408> does anyone know?
[07:20] <chibifs> johndarkhorse - Well aware, but you sounded like you were trying to tell him his computer would burst into flames. :P
[07:20] <sockpuppe1> as i asked before will it screw anything up
[07:20] <eggdrop408> where i can get a shell
[07:20] <tritium> eggdrop408, please don't repeat
[07:20] <eggdrop408> sorry tritium
[07:20] <jack-> wrong place to ask, anyway
[07:21] <tritium> indeed
[07:21] <pestilence> so how do ubuntu users deal with resizing ntfs partitions?
[07:21] <johndarkhorse> chibifs: with some debian pkgs, flames are quick
[07:21] <adwait> eggdrop408: shell? which shell?
[07:21] <pestilence> backup and wipe?  is there no better way?
[07:21] <jack-> free shells for eggdrops arent available anymore
[07:21] <mnssk> pestilence, was waiting for you.... i have got all the stuff ready now
[07:21] <jack-> :~
[07:21] <dazvid> eggdrop408, you could try the beach :)
[07:21] <pestilence> mnssk: did it work?
[07:21] <eggdrop408> lol
[07:21] <adwait> hehe
[07:21] <dazvid> or just applications > system tools > terminal
[07:21] <mnssk> pestilence,  no :(
[07:21] <eggdrop408> i mean a linux shell
[07:21] <eggdrop408> who here has a linux server?
[07:21] <dazvid> eggdrop408,  or just applications > system tools > terminal
[07:21] <adwait> eggdrop408: as in bash, csh, tcsh?
[07:21] <johndarkhorse> pestilence: he wants a shell account
[07:21] <mnssk> pestilence,  i have my xorg.0.log, ddcprobe output, and xorg.conf,... can you just take a look
[07:21] <jack-> getting a free shell is a matter of trust, dude
[07:21] <adwait> eggdrop408: u can apt-get that
[07:22] <adwait> ooh
[07:22] <Milk_> Good evenin
[07:22] <tritium> eggdrop408, what are you wanting to do with a shell account?
[07:22] <Milk_> does anyone here have experiance with EXIM?
[07:22] <pestilence> johndarkhorse: i don't understand.
[07:22] <eggdrop408> i want to host a non profit organization website
[07:22] <adwait> i believe, i had found a free shell account someplace................google it
[07:22] <pestilence> mnssk: sure, put it on the ubuntu pastebin
[07:22] <jack-> exim sucks, use postfix? ;)
[07:22] <mnssk> pestilence, okay sure
[07:22] <transparentdream> Ok, why isn't Totem working?
[07:22] <eggdrop408> tritium, sorry...i want to host a nonporfit organization site
[07:22] <transparentdream> It says resource busy
[07:22] <johndarkhorse> pestilence: a shell account is an account for you on someone elses box (for development, eggdrop, etc)
[07:22] <transparentdream> never did that before
[07:23] <adwait> transparentdream: maybe u can change its output plugin to something else?
[07:23] <jack-> eggdrop408: just rent a shell, its damn cheap
[07:23] <eggdrop408> i do not have money jack
[07:23] <transparentdream> adwait: what do you mean? How do i do that?
[07:23] <jack-> get a few of your buddies to sponsor a dollar, done
[07:23] <mnssk> pestilence,  can you tell me where the paste bin is..
[07:23] <pestilence> johndarkhorse: who?
[07:23] <transparentdream> See I just installed Mplayer
[07:23] <snausages> i dont understand where i can get the md5 files to verify my iso >:\
[07:23] <pestilence> mnssk: see /topic
[07:23] <transparentdream> and NEITHER work now
[07:23] <h08817> how do i play a windows media file in linux
[07:23] <eggdrop408> no one has one that they could let me use
[07:23] <eggdrop408> totem
[07:23] <h08817> or a realplayer file
[07:23] <adwait> transparentdream: umm........i don't really run totem, but i should be there somewhere in its menun
[07:23] <johndarkhorse> pestilence: n/m someone in here just asked for one
[07:24] <Agrajag> play a realplayer file in realplayer
[07:24] <mnssk> pestilence, in www.ubuntulinux.org only right ?
[07:24] <tritium> eggdrop408, please don't be asking for free shell accounts in here
[07:24] <transparentdream> adwait: totem doesnt even load up...
[07:24] <Milk_> h08817, you need the gstreamer plugins
[07:24] <eggdrop408> tritium, go to hell
[07:24] <Madpilot> !tell h08817 about mp3
[07:24] <eggdrop408> u dont own this
[07:24] <pestilence> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:24] <pestilence> it's in the /topic
[07:24] <mnssk> pestilence, ok
[07:25] <adwait> transparentdream: try totem --disable-sound
[07:25] <mrichman> where can i find repositories with mplayer skins?
[07:25] <pestilence> mnssk: are you back in windows now?  i would suggest staying in ubuntu while you are trying to figure this out, it's easier.  a good command line client for irc is irssi
[07:25] <jack-> mrichman: you cant, just google them, unpack them manually
[07:26] <jack-> same for most other skins/themes
[07:26] <mrichman> ok
[07:26] <Madpilot> tritium: so much for eggdrop's "u don't own this"... ;)
[07:26] <jack-> some of ubuntu's theme managers work with archives, just give it a try
[07:26] <johndarkhorse> Madpilot: he just didnt see us for our sheeps clothing, heh
[07:26] <tritium> oh well...
[07:26] <jack-> drop .tgz on window, maybe it works
[07:27] <adwait> jack-: infact, many will only accept archives
[07:27] <mnssk> pestilence, okay...i will download it and try
[07:27] <Madpilot> johndarkhorse: stealth op'ing can be amusing to watch
[07:27] <mnssk> pestilence, if i get a hope that this can be solved, i am ready to do anything !!
[07:27] <mrichman> jack-++ thanks
[07:27] <Milk_> does anyone here have experiance with EXIM?
[07:27] <jack-> np :)
[07:27] <J2Dope> on ubuntu i can ping sites like google.com , but i can't browse them in firefox. any idea whats up?
[07:28] <jack-> milk_ yes, but honestly, i prefer postfix a lot meanwhile
[07:28] <mnssk> pestilence, i will download irssi and go to ubuntu
[07:28] <jack-> exim can die for all i care
[07:28] <mnssk> pestilence, i have pasted it in paste bin..
[07:28] <adwait> J2Dope: is your resolv.conf ok?
[07:28] <mnssk> pestilence, it says operation timed out :(
[07:28] <mnssk> pestilence, done
[07:29] <Milk_> jack-, have you ever encountered "Temporary Local Problem: Try again Later"
[07:29] <pestilence> mnssk: what timed out?  you should  install irssi from within ubuntu.... apt-get install irssi-text
[07:29] <jack-> might be a diskspace issue milk_
[07:29] <mnssk> pestilence, done
[07:29] <pestilence> mnssk: ok.
[07:29] <jack-> make sure all the queue dirs have space
[07:29] <Milk_> hrm...
[07:29] <mnssk> pestilence, its in paste...1882
[07:29] <Milk_> let me check
[07:30] <Georgiepoo> Could someone let me know what the process multiload-apple is and why it has so pleasantly decided to use approx 20 percent of my cpu?
[07:30] <mnssk> pestilence, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1882
[07:30] <Cashel> re howdies.... anyone happen to have the file hsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz stored somewhere? Could ya send it to me?
[07:30] <mnssk> pestilence, the problem is, i could not get my wireless working in ubuntu
[07:30] <Milk_> jack-, the general disk is fine.. how can I chec the que dirs?
[07:30] <transparentdream> Totem could not start up - resource busy or not available
[07:30] <mnssk> pestilence, so..i am sticking on to windows for internet..then a fat32 partition for saving, then mounting it in ubuntu and debugging..
[07:30] <jack-> i dont remember the paths, check your conf..
[07:31] <jack-> /var/something iirc
[07:31] <jack-> make sure they have write permissions (for the exim user) and space
[07:31] <pestilence> mnssk: oh.
[07:31] <jack-> no quotas and stuff
[07:31] <pestilence> mnssk: sounds like you're on the edge :)
[07:31] <snausages> how do i use md5sum to verify the file before i burn it? i dont see any md5 to be downloaded... except one or two, but i dont know how to use them.
[07:31] <mnssk> pestilence, having a tuff time :( .. was on it since 48 hours solid
[07:31] <mnssk> pestilence, :D
[07:31] <transparentdream> can someone help me? I installed Mplayer, and not neither Mplayer OR Totem works!
[07:32] <Milk_> hrm... I dont' see it
[07:32] <Madpilot> snausages: which OS you using right now?
[07:32] <mnssk> pestilence, i dont know if anyone got it working on dell inspiron 6000 ....
[07:32] <snausages> Madpilot, xp
[07:32] <mnssk> pestilence, btw, i tried fedora core 4..did not work .. then debian .. did not work .. and then this ubuntu..not working !!
[07:32] <tritium> Madpilot, :)
[07:33] <Madpilot> snausages: ask mr. google, I'm not sure how to generate & check md5 in XP
[07:33] <transparentdream> can someone help me? I installed Mplayer, and not neither Mplayer OR Totem works!
[07:33] <mnssk> pestilence, checking it out ?
[07:33] <pestilence> mnssk: i see this:  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
[07:33] <jack-> transparentdream: here's a workaround, just get vlc
[07:33] <pestilence> mnssk: maybe you need to change the line in xorg.conf to 0:2:1 ?
[07:33] <transparentdream> for linux? Where?
[07:33] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah yeah..thats the problem i guess..but dont know what to do..
[07:33] <snausages> Madpilot, i did. i even have a program that verifies md5's i just dont see any md5 files to be downloaded from the ubuntu website that i can use to verify the iso
[07:33] <jack-> doesnt fix mplayer or totem, but gives you a great player
[07:33] <firebird619> Can anyone suggest a program to download so I can tune and listen to radio stations from my TV Tuner Card?
[07:33] <Milk_> exit
[07:33] <jack-> in debian/stable, for example
[07:33] <transparentdream> well yea
[07:34] <mnssk> mnssk, ooooooooppsssss!!        i should have showed you my lspci output right ??
[07:34] <pestilence> mnssk: did you try editing xorg.conf?
[07:34] <transparentdream> where can I get it, and how can I get limewire to use it?
[07:34] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah i did try !! a lot !! i did almost all possible things that i knew with xorg.conf..
[07:34] <jack-> videolan.org/download
[07:34] <Madpilot> snausages: most of the U mirrors I've used have an "md5sum" directory, I think
[07:34] <mnssk> pestilence, also..i should have given you my lspci output
[07:34] <mnssk> pestilence, now i need to go back to ubuntu :)
[07:34] <pestilence> mnssk: with the change i suggested?
[07:35] <mnssk> pestilence, the bus ID change ?
[07:35] <jack-> set the default app for .avi etc to vlc using the gui
[07:35] <jack-> then limewire will know it too
[07:35] <transparentdream> kthx
[07:35] <pestilence> mnssk: and, you gave the head of the log, the tail would be much more useful (it got truncated)
[07:35] <mnssk> pestilence, thats the one thing that I did not change... cuz i did not know what to do with it..
[07:35] <pestilence> mnssk: the line that says BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
[07:35] <mnssk> pestilence, i have it..i can give you..did not know that it got truncated....
[07:35] <pestilence> change it to BusID "PCI:0:2:1"
[07:35] <snausages> Madpilot, i dont see any directories, except a file without an extension and another .gpg http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[07:36] <mnssk> pestilence, oh...would that help ?
[07:36] <pestilence> mnssk: i'm not sure, but it's worth a shot ;)
[07:36] <mnssk> pestilence, cuz i need to boot back into linux and try
[07:36] <dazvid> asl
[07:36] <mnssk> pestilence, and then come back to report u
[07:36] <pestilence> mnssk: as i pointed out, you have a warning about that in the xorg log
[07:36] <mnssk> pestilence, i have seen that...and withwhatever i do i could not get it clean
[07:36] <h17m4n> another question about opera
[07:36] <h17m4n> is it available in a 64 bit deb?
[07:36] <mnssk> pestilence, however, see.. my winodws gave me the same infor 0:2:0 about the bus
[07:37] <Madpilot> snausages: scroll down, open the file called "MD5SUMS"
[07:37] <mnssk> pestilence, sent the complete log
[07:37] <snausages> Madpilot, and then?
[07:37] <johndarkhorse> h17m4n: try galeon for your web browsing
[07:38] <jack-> firefox <3
[07:38] <mnssk> pestilence, sent the complete log at 1883
[07:38] <pestilence> mnssk: ok
[07:38] <Shorty`> mm
[07:38] <Shorty`> breezy is sexy
[07:38] <Shorty`> just a tad buggy ;)
[07:39] <Madpilot> snausages: that file has the md5sums you need to compare your download to
[07:39] <bytefoo> a tad lol ;X
[07:39] <snausages> Madpilot, yes. and how would i do that?
[07:40] <Madpilot> snausages: however it's done in XP - I can't even remember how to do it in Ubuntu right now, sorry! google should help there
[07:40] <pestilence> mnssk: it truncates the log.  you have to paste just the last 2100 lines or so
[07:40] <mnssk> pestilence, okay i will do that
[07:41] <johndarkhorse> snausages: go to www.freewarehome.com and search for md5
[07:42] <mnssk> pestilence, the last lines are there
[07:42] <firebird_619> Can anyone suggest a program for listening to the radio through a TV Tuner Card?
[07:42] <Madpilot> snausages: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html  - has XP info
[07:42] <mnssk> pestilence, please chk them out
[07:42] <pestilence> mnssk: here's how you get your wireless going
[07:42] <pestilence> mnssk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[07:42] <jack-> firebird_619: xmms, or vlc
[07:42] <Madpilot> back later, all. need to get food.
[07:42] <pestilence> mnssk: i followed that for my ipw2200, works great (although mine also worked with the default kernel, but didn't support network scanning)
[07:43] <mnssk> pestilence, okay thats a great bit of help. but can I scan for networks and choose one of them ??
[07:43] <firebird_619> jack-, I tried the plugin for xmms to listen to radio and it says to find a .fmr file and edit it to scan for stations and then open the file. Do you know where I can find what exactly to put in the .fmr file to have it scan for the stations?
[07:43] <Cashel> hsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz? Anyone?
[07:44] <pef> hi
[07:45] <pestilence> mnssk: i can, using the instructions on that page.  it's not quite as slick in linux as it is in windows, but if you are willing to tinker, kismet is good.
[07:45] <jack-> firebird_619: no idea what a .fmr file looks like :)
[07:45] <mnssk> pestilence, i will try that out... no probs
[07:45] <firebird_619> jack-, ok, thanks
[07:45] <h17m4n> when I dl a tarball, I have to tar it, make, and make install?
[07:45] <mushtaq> hi i have configured a static ip address on my pc i have provided DNS IP Gateway but still i cannot access the network
[07:45] <jack-> check it out using a texteditor
[07:45] <mnssk> pestilence, atleast this much of a pointer is good enough... but  monitor thing is quite far from reality !!
[07:45] <jack-> i bet you'll see
[07:45] <mushtaq> while the other pc that has been configured at boot is working
[07:45] <pestilence> mnssk: did you try the vesa driver?
[07:45] <mushtaq> i dont know where to add the group name ?
[07:46] <pestilence> mnssk: it sounds like that will work right away, but won't give optimal speed or 3d support
[07:46] <mushtaq> or is there any other reason ? which can effect ?
[07:46] <mnssk> pestilence, i tried it. but i am not sure if i did it corectly
[07:46] <mnssk> pestilence, i dont care about any support now :)), just want to see my gnome running !!
[07:46] <chillywilly> bah, ym cron job won't run
[07:46] <chillywilly> my*
[07:47] <mnssk> pestilence, can u just help me out with writing the vesa xorg ??
[07:47] <chillywilly> I set it to run every minute and still don't see shit in syslog
[07:47] <mushtaq> i can ping to that pc even
[07:47] <firebird_619> jack-, there isn't any .fmr files on my system to check out.
[07:47] <chillywilly> erm, anything ;)
[07:47] <pestilence> mnssk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1885
[07:47] <pestilence> mnssk: also try http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1886
[07:48] <pestilence> mnssk: and http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1887
[07:48] <mnssk> pestilence, sure i will try them
[07:48] <jack-> use google to find any radio station, check if they offer .fmr files
[07:48] <jack-> thats what i'd do, i guess
[07:48] <jack-> (thats how i found out about the simple structure of .pls btw, too..d'oh)
[07:48] <pepsi> what does the "Save current setup" checkbox do in the logout window?
[07:48] <mnssk> pestilence, so..shall I try them and then boot back ?? :)
[07:49] <pestilence> mnssk: sure.  make sure you copy over the xorg log if it fails
[07:49] <mnssk> pestilence,  i will do that..for each one of them
[07:49] <johndarkhorse> pepsi: it leaves all the programs open at the place you were at when you logged off
[07:50] <pestilence> mnssk: you can just do an "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" instead of rebooting
[07:50] <pestilence> from a command line
[07:51] <pepsi> oh... thats pretty speffy
[07:51] <pepsi> spiff even
[07:51] <pepsi> gah
[07:51] <mnssk> pestilence, what would that give me ?? like...to get out of X..i can use ctrl+alt+bsp right ?
[07:51] <kevogod> Is Evolution buggy on Exchange for anyone else besides me?
[07:52] <pestilence> mnssk: no, ctrl+alt+F1
[07:52] <alex_theosxuser> hello
[07:52] <pestilence> mnssk: ctrl+alt+bsp will try to restart X
[07:52] <mnssk> pestilence, okay..and ctrl+alt+F1 and then what ?? just close gdm ?
[07:52] <pepsi> evolution is always buggy with everything :)
[07:52] <pestilence> mnssk: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:52] <pepsi> just dont poke it too hard and it will cooperate
[07:52] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah yeah..but what would that do ?
[07:52] <pestilence> mnssk: restart gdm
[07:53] <alex_theosxuser> guys does anyone no why ubunu won't boot anymore with 2.6.13 kernel?
[07:53] <kevogod> What's a good alternative for Evolution that supports Exchange?
[07:53] <mnssk> pestilence, i understand that..but whats it gonna give us now ? you said "instead of rebooting" right ?? i need to come back to windows right ?
[07:54] <jack-> you will, just do it
[07:54] <bur[n] er> kevogod: none i've found... evolution is hte best... lately I've been using remote desktop straight to my exchang server though to use outlook :\
[07:54] <bur[n] er> aww
[07:54] <pestilence> mnssk: oh, i meant if the first xorg.conf doesn't work.  then you can try the 2nd and the 3rd without rebooting
[07:54] <mnssk> pestilence, yeah yeah..okays sure !!
[07:55] <mnssk> pestilence, that i had been doing already by killing xserver..:)
[07:55] <mnssk> pestilence, i am just doubting if i should try for wireless also now itself..but i think no! i will postpone it..
[07:55] <pestilence> mnssk: k
[07:55] <chillywilly> can anyone help? I have a file in /etc/cron.d and I have * * * * * root <command> but I don't see cron running it in /var/log/syslog...what the heck is going on?
[07:56] <alex_theosxuser> would anyone like to answer my question???
[07:56] <Bubblefly> How can I do a crc check on a file?
[07:56] <jack-> alex, if anyone would know
[07:56] <jack-> he prolly would answer :p
[07:56] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, did you compile it yourself?
[07:56] <alex_theosxuser> I guess so :)
[07:56] <alex_theosxuser> yes
[07:56] <alex_theosxuser> and it went fine
[07:56] <h17m4n> I did a apt-get install d4x, but there's not icon for it under Applications... how do I add one?
[07:57] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, and what's happening?  Did you add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst and run sudo update-grub ?
[07:57] <alex_theosxuser> I don't even see grub
[07:57] <tritium> on boot?
[07:57] <alex_theosxuser> but there is an entry in yaboot.conf
[07:57] <tritium> oh, you're on a mac...
[07:58] <alex_theosxuser> yes
[07:58] <jack-> :)
[07:58] <jack-> whats wrong with darwin? hehe
[07:58] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, not sure
[07:58] <alex_theosxuser> I choose 'linux' which is 2.6.13 and it then says welcome to linux but this is it
[07:58] <johndarkhorse> alex_theosxuser: i missed your question
[07:59] <Riskbreaker9> quick question, what exactly do you do wiith a *.run file? (this is probably going to end up being the stupidest question i've asked)
[07:59] <alex_theosxuser> johndarkhorse, oh the ubuntu win't boot anymore
[07:59] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, perhaps you didn't compile in a necessary option
[07:59] <alex_theosxuser> I followed the HOWTO from ubuntuforums
[07:59] <johndarkhorse> alex_theosxuser: is it a kernel from the repos?
[07:59] <alex_theosxuser> no
[07:59] <alex_theosxuser> from kernel.org
[07:59] <alex_theosxuser> I used --initrd option too
[07:59] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, why not just use an ubuntu kernel?
[08:00] <alex_theosxuser> fon't know :)
[08:00] <jack-> are there ppc repos too? wow
[08:00] <bob2> if it won't boot, it's almost certainly because you misconfigured it
[08:00] <johndarkhorse> alex_theosxuser: i recommend you get into your yaboot and point it at a kernel that runs
[08:00] <bob2> why do you need 2.6.13?
[08:00] <johndarkhorse> alex_theosxuser: and then d/l hte kernel sources and patches from the repos
[08:00] <alex_theosxuser> bob2, to get working sound
[08:00] <Riskbreaker9> like, i was trying to download the Unreal Tournament 2004 demo, for shits and giggles. i doubleclick the run file and it just brings up a large text file.
[08:00] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, is it a G5?
[08:00] <Riskbreaker9> what am i supposed to do?
[08:00] <alex_theosxuser> no, mac mini G4
[08:01] <Agrajag> Riskbreaker9: open a terminal, chmod +x whatever.run
[08:01] <johndarkhorse> alex_theosxuser: sound should work on the mini
[08:01] <bob2> Riskbreaker9: it really had no instructions at all on place you got it from?
[08:01] <alex_theosxuser> yes, with the new 2.6.13 kernel
[08:01] <alex_theosxuser> johndarkhorse
[08:01] <bob2> alex_theosxuser: use the ubuntu .config with it, and only change the one sound option you need
[08:01] <Riskbreaker9> nope, non
[08:01] <Agrajag> Riskbreaker9: what
[08:01] <bob2> 2.6.13 may or may not actualy work on hoary, tho
[08:02] <bob2> gven the whole udev thing
[08:02] <Agrajag> Riskbreaker9: run it from the terminal then, ./whatever.run
[08:02] <Riskbreaker9> no directions, in reponse to bob. sorry.
[08:02] <Agrajag> oh
[08:02] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, did you try building newer alsa modules first?
[08:02] <Riskbreaker9> i'll try what you told me
[08:02] <alex_theosxuser> no
[08:02] <alex_theosxuser> tritium
[08:02] <alex_theosxuser> tritium. I didn't
[08:02] <Riskbreaker9> okay, i typed in the chmod command. should i have gotten a message?
[08:03] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, you might consider that rather than a new kernel
[08:03] <bob2> no
[08:03] <dabaR> hi
[08:03] <Riskbreaker9> what exactly does that do then
[08:03] <Agrajag> that makes the files executable
[08:03] <bob2> it makes the file executable
[08:03] <Agrajag> er, file
[08:03] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, I have just installed alsa driver and library
[08:04] <Riskbreaker9> ohh
[08:04] <bob2> alex_theosxuser: dude
[08:04] <Riskbreaker9> i see. now should i try ./ ?
[08:04] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, what package names?
[08:04] <penticlex> got it working Sun doesnt make the 64 bit w/ the browser plugin
[08:04] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, but it throws an error when try to open alsamixer
[08:04] <bob2> installing libraries like that from source is a bad idea
[08:04] <Agrajag> Riskbreaker9: yeah
[08:04] <alex_theosxuser> why?
[08:04] <Agrajag> it should run
[08:04] <Riskbreaker9> ah
[08:04] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone know of a software package for Linux that is like Dragon Talk in Windows - you know, let's you talk, and it'll input text?
[08:04] <Riskbreaker9> thanks a lot, it's running
[08:04] <Riskbreaker9> that's weird, why do you have to use a command to make something executable?
[08:04] <bob2> er, because you're overwriting core stuff that came with ubuntu?
[08:04] <bob2> and may or may not be compatible
[08:05] <alex_theosxuser> alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2, alsa-lib-1.0.9rc4.tar.bz2
[08:05] <penticlex> you dont
[08:05] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: you mean voice recognition.  try freshmeat.
[08:05] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, no, that's not what I meant for you to do
[08:05] <bob2> alex_theosxuser: really not a good idea
[08:05] <alex_theosxuser> realy?
[08:05] <bob2> yes
[08:05] <bob2> also, it doesn't actally help you
[08:05] <alex_theosxuser> oh damn
[08:06] <penticlex> .0
[08:06] <Georgiepoo> Anyone know if it is possible to recover where you left off in a long apt-get install if the computer locked up during the download?
[08:06] <bob2> Georgiepoo: sure, apt does it automagically
[08:07] <Georgiepoo> bob2, ewww.  apt isn't doign it for me.  Its starting all over from the beginning
[08:07] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, so what did you mean I should do?
[08:07] <bob2> Georgiepoo: are yo usure?
[08:07] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, how is sound not working, first of all?
[08:07] <Georgiepoo> bob2, Pretty sure.  Let me check again just in case
[08:08] <johndarkhorse> Georgiepoo: apt will start from the pkg where it was interupted
[08:08] <robertbb> hmmm.. cfdisk gives me a fatal error
[08:08] <bob2> Georgiepoo: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[08:08] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, well I go to system->prefs->sound and try to play any sound and there is no sound :)
[08:08] <Riskbreaker9> so is this standard procedure whenever i get a run file?
[08:08] <dazvid> what programs does everyone use to play MP3's ?
[08:09] <dazvid> XMMS ? or something differnet?
[08:09] <bob2> Riskbreaker9: read the instructions, generally
[08:09] <bob2> dazvid: I like cplay
[08:09] <Riskbreaker9> ah
[08:09] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, can you tell me if you see any files in /proc/asound?
[08:09] <Georgiepoo> bob2, its empty except for the packages it has started redownloading from the beginning
[08:09] <bob2> Riskbreaker9: if not, trying to run it like above
[08:09] <mnssk> pestilence, i am back !!
[08:09] <dazvid> Righto, will google it. Are there any others to check out?
[08:10] <mnssk> pestilence, none of them worked :(
[08:10] <bob2> cplay's in ubuntu, of course
[08:10] <Riskbreaker9> excellent. thanks a lot
[08:10] <alex_theosxuser> tritium. yes I do, cards  devices  modules  oss  pcm  seq  timers  version
[08:10] <tritium> alex_theosxuser, did you check the mixer to make sure things aren't simply muted?
[08:11] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, I did type alsamixer, but it said 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'
[08:11] <tritium> I see...
[08:11] <pestilence> mnssk: bummer.
[08:11] <bob2> why do you think you need 2.6.13?
[08:11] <alex_theosxuser> tritium, is there any othe mixers??
[08:12] <Georgiepoo> Ah well.  I'll just wait a few more days until I get cable back.  Trying to download 60+ megs on dial-up is painful
[08:12] <pestilence> mnssk: put the logs on pastebin, maybe somebody can help
[08:12] <johndarkhorse> bob2: alex_theosxuser wants sound on his ubuntuized mac mini
[08:12] <alex_theosxuser> heh yeah :)
[08:12] <bob2> yes, I know
[08:13] <bob2> why do you thin kthat requires 2.6.13?
[08:13] <alex_theosxuser> bob2, on the ubuntuforums they reckon I should install 2.6.13 and the newest alsa
[08:13] <bob2> the forums say lots of things
[08:13] <bob2> many of which are highly misleading and/or completely wrong
[08:13] <alex_theosxuser> bob2, I know :)
[08:13] <mnssk> pestilence, :)) okay..!! let me tell u one interesting thing
[08:14] <mnssk> pestilence, even if i used the conf with bus id 0:2:1, the error still says cannot find a suitable whatever for 0:2:0
[08:14] <alex_theosxuser> johndarkhorse,  bob2 what are the other mixer I could unmute?
[08:14] <pestilence> mnssk: strange.
[08:14] <mnssk> pestilence, i was using the correct file all the time
[08:14] <bob2> alex_theosxuser: have you read dmesg yet to see if there's a driver loaded for it or not?
[08:15] <pestilence> mnssk: you could try breezy's xorg...there may be better support for your laptop in breezy
[08:15] <bob2> this mixer thing is getting way ahead of yourself
[08:15] <mnssk> pestilence, one question: did anyone install ubuntu on inspiron 6000 ?
[08:15] <pestilence> mnssk: just a quick search of the forum says yes.
[08:15] <alex_theosxuser> bob2, I am not sure how to do that :)
[08:15] <mnssk> mnssk: okay surely !! just gimme the link of the breezy thing
[08:15] <bob2> put your /var/log/dmesg up somewhere then
[08:17] <pestilence> mnssk: can't really help you with breezy...should involve changing lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from hoary to breezy, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade...but not sure if there is an official installer for breezy
[08:17] <pestilence> mnssk: search the wiki
[08:18] <bob2> there is indeed
[08:18] <robertbb> Is there a gui utility for disk management under Ubuntu?
[08:18] <pestilence> robertbb: yes, it is gqparted i believe
[08:19] <jack-> dpkg-deb: baue Paket avifile-xvid-plugin in ../avifile-xvid-plugin_0.7.38.20030710-1.2_i386.deb.
[08:19] <jack->         dpkg-deb --build debian/avifile-divx-plugin ..
[08:19] <robertbb> Not installed by default though right?
[08:19] <jack-> but how can i install it now?
[08:19] <robertbb> cfdisk cracks the shits...
[08:19] <pestilence> robertbb: no, don't think
[08:19] <robertbb> gives a fatal error
[08:19] <bob2> pasting things in english is a lot easier
[08:19] <Cashel> hsfcompat_24-1.0d.tar.gz? Anyone?
[08:19] <mnssk> okays..will try that out
[08:19] <jack-> E: Package avifile-xvid-plugin has no installation candidate
[08:19] <mnssk> pestilence, thanx alot
[08:19] <jack-> :(
[08:19] <bob2> Cashel: is that a question?
[08:19] <mnssk> pestilence, i willg et to sleep now and try that later
[08:19] <pestilence> mnssk: catch 22...you need an internet connection.
[08:20] <bob2> jack-: a) paste things in #flood, not here, b) in english
[08:20] <pestilence> mnssk: sure.  good luck
[08:20] <mnssk> pestilence, :)) so i will set up my wireless tomorrow
[08:20] <jack-> sorry bob2
[08:20] <mnssk> pestilence, and then try apt-get and breezy...let me see if life gets any better
[08:20] <mnssk> pestilence, goodnight then
[08:21] <Cashel> bob2: Yeah does anyone have that file? Need it to get online in linux...
[08:21] <jack-> anyway, to sum it up..i build-deped it, went fine, but how can i install it now? apt-get install still says doesnt exist
[08:21] <jack-> how can i let apt "know" about the pkgs i built?
[08:22] <bob2> Cashel: what did google say?
[08:22] <bob2> jack-: apt-get install is never going to work, unless you configure apt to know about it
[08:22] <bob2> jack-: just use dpkg -i foo.deb
[08:22] <Cashel> bob2: only place that had it is no longer around...
[08:22] <jack-> ok
[08:22] <jack-> how should i configure apt to know its own local db?
[08:23] <bob2> jack-: don't, just use dpkg
[08:23] <jack-> want things to work smoothly, including the gui pkg managers :/
[08:23] <gjoemmie> llo there
[08:23] <bob2> jack-: yes, install it with dpkg
[08:23] <jack-> ok
[08:23] <gjoemmie> I'm looking for a good movie/music downloading program...
[08:23] <gjoemmie> anyone has an idea?
[08:24] <bytefoo> i wonder if ubuntu will support this.. http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html
[08:24] <bob2> violating copyright is off-topic here
[08:24] <gjoemmie> where is it on-topic?
[08:24] <bob2> no idea
[08:25] <bob2> bytefoo: no-name laptops tend to have broken acpi and such
[08:25] <bob2> if it does work, put a report on the wiki
[08:27] <bytefoo> it's not available yet
[08:30] <penticlex> wow my java works great now
[08:31] <penticlex> does any one know how to get the greeter to show Icons next to my name list
[08:32] <tritium> penticlex, did you choose the graphical greeter with a face browser?
[08:32] <penticlex> yup\
[08:32] <tritium> penticlex, that should do it.  Next time you restart gdm, it should work
[08:32] <dabaR> icons like what?
[08:33] <dabaR> pictures?
[08:33] <penticlex> and the only faces have ? in them
[08:33] <chibifs> penticlex - Wait for breezy
[08:33] <penticlex> ya I cons that I can customise
[08:33] <dabaR> you want real faces...no need, chibifs ...
[08:33] <dabaR> just a sec.
[08:34] <chibifs> dabaR - Just reffering to the tool for gnome-user-stuff. Not sure if it's been ported back yet.
[08:36] <dabaR> penticlex: well, in this case...you would have to run gdmphotosetup as the user you are trying to set up a picture for. if you know the password, you can su userName in the terminal. Not tested that tho.
[08:37] <kevogod> Would someone like to help me setup a VPN connection on Ubuntu or at least direct me to a good walkthrough?
[08:37] <gjoemmie> can anyone explain to me how I can download and install new programs to ubuntu?
[08:37] <gjoemmie> plz?
[08:38] <dabaR> dont send messages with no content, like plz...
[08:38] <bob2> kevogod: you need to be more specific
[08:38] <esc_ape> gjoemmie - use synaptic
[08:38] <bob2> about what sort of VPN you want
[08:38] <jack-> gjoemmie: "system" menu, system admin->synaptic
[08:38] <bob2> gjoemmie: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:38] <penticlex> cool it worked
[08:39] <dabaR> penticlex: you doubted me?!heh
[08:39] <gjoemmie> tnx Ill check it out!
[08:39] <penticlex> hehe
[08:39] <dabaR> You know, I stumbled across that when I was using debian...
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu homepage has some very well done docs and beginner guides
[08:40] <kevogod> For a Microsoft setup
[08:41] <spear-north> hi !
[08:41] <bob2> kevogod: PPTP?
[08:41] <kevogod> Yes
[08:41] <dryhump> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Belkin G wireless NIC with ubuntu and/or any distro of linux?
[08:41] <kevogod> I do believe so
[08:42] <bob2> dryhump: not specific enough, you'd need an exact model number or to find out what chipset it uses
[08:42] <penticlex> it wont work if I sudo to another user
[08:42] <bob2> I'd not be surprised in he least if belkin used some moronic undocumented chipset, tho
[08:43] <spear-north> Do you know a webpage where utilities are compared with screenshots, resumes ... ie, where you can have an idea of most of the audio players available ???
[08:43] <dryhump> bob2: 811 54g
[08:43] <dryhump> bob2: where would I look?
[08:43] <dryhump> i mean 802
[08:44] <bob2> "802 54g" is the model number?
[08:44] <penticlex> belkins use the same chipset s netgear
[08:44] <penticlex> s= as
[08:44] <dryhump> penticlex, it was weird b/c ubuntu did not read it during install...
[08:44] <dryhump> I heard the belkin used the boradcom chipset so therrefore lionux wouldnt work with the 802.11 g model
[08:45] <dryhump> i wanted to make sure that was true
[08:45] <bob2> dryhump: what's the model number?
[08:45] <dryhump> bob2, one sec
[08:45] <dryhump> f5d7010
[08:46] <dabaR> penticlex: did I say sudo? i meant su
[08:46] <dryhump> 802.11 G
[08:46] <dryhump> those are the numbers that I have
[08:46] <gjoemmie> anyone knows how I can add new subtitles to movies?
[08:46] <penticlex> no you said su I just mad the typo
[08:46] <dryhump> I was hoping there was a way to get Ubuntu to recognize the NIC
[08:47] <dabaR> I know I said that...
[08:47] <bob2> dryhump: ndiswrapper might work
[08:47] <bob2> dryhump: is too late to exchange it for a better supported one., tho?
[08:47] <dryhump> yes
[08:47] <spear-north> so no idea about that kind of webpage ?
[08:47] <dryhump> :(
[08:47] <bob2> spear-north: google gave you no results?
[08:47] <dryhump> wtf is ndiswrapper
[08:47] <bob2> I doubt there's any sort of organised website for that
[08:48] <bob2> at least a useful one; it's too easy to just try them out for yourself, instead of letting someone else tell you
[08:48] <spear-north> maybe it's an idea to build such a site, no ?
[08:48] <dabaR> the newusersmultimedia talks about it a little...
[08:48] <dabaR> they all work.
[08:48] <dryhump> dabar, was that for me?
[08:49] <bob2> dryhump: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:49] <dryhump> thanks bob2
[08:49] <bob2> dryhump: but starts from "installing windows drivers"
[08:49] <spear-north> for " mr newbie " or even anyone who wonders " what exists to record cds, watch movies or listen to music "
[08:49] <dryhump> Hm...
[08:50] <dabaR> dryhump: for you...stfw:P
[08:50] <Madpilot> spear-north: you could do something like that in the Ubuntu wiki
[08:50] <dryhump> stfw?
[08:50] <Hentai^NT> laters all
[08:50] <spear-north> with a few screenshots (because design can be important), a resume of the functions ... :)
[08:51] <dabaR> dryhump: the younger brother of rtfm, search the fine web about ndiswrapper.
[08:51] <anomaly> stfw.. I would think... stop the f'ng whining perhaps. heh
[08:52] <Madpilot> spear-north: have a look around the wiki, I think something like that would be useful
[08:52] <dryhump> i didnt think i was whining
[08:52] <anomaly> ah, that too perhaps.
[08:53] <spear-north> i' ll have a look around ! like you said, it can be useful !
[08:53] <anomaly> dryhump I just saw the acronym perchance and got to thinking about it. :)
[08:53] <dryhump> oh ok
[08:53] <dryhump> :P
[08:54] <dazvid> bob2, Does cplay have a GUI? or is console based?
[08:54] <dazvid> is it*
[08:54] <Madpilot> spear-north: there's going to be a bunch of screen-shot heavy docs released along with Breezy in a month or so, some of them could probably fit into a comparision like you're talking about
[08:54] <dabaR> it is nice, tried it?
[08:55] <dabaR> dazvid: ^
[08:55] <dazvid> I have downloaded and installed.. however its not playing my songs -_-
[08:56] <dabaR> you started cplay from console?
[08:57] <spear-north> i think so ! At the final point, even if it's not the objective for now, what i understand, it would maybe be a good idea to settle screenshots in Synaptic and some more important descriptions of functionalities ... the future is probably there
[08:57] <dazvid> Yeh
[08:57] <dazvid> just cplay musicdir/
[08:57] <bob2> dazvid: it's a console application, yes
[08:57] <dazvid> ah ok
[08:57] <bob2> searching the fine web when you have no idea what you're doing can be dangerous
[08:58] <dabaR> bob2: does it need codecs? the libmad/gstreamer?
[08:58] <bob2> you might find a broken howto or something
[08:58] <bob2> dabaR: it shells out to command-line players, like ogg123 and madplay
[08:58] <dabaR> bob2: a question like what is ndiswrapper does need google, tho.
[08:58] <bob2> sure
[08:58] <bob2> but "how do I use ndiswrapper on ubuntu?" will cause problems if googled
[08:58] <bob2> because you'll find the wiki page I pointed someone at
[08:59] <bob2> and it goes through all sorts of crap about rebuilding ndiswrapper modules
[08:59] <bob2> and force-installing them
[09:00] <dabaR> right, I was reading the @ask by apt/#debian referenced page...so I thought it was a good place to use stfw....
[09:00] <bob2> heh
[09:00] <dazvid> dabaR, when in cplay, and playing a song it comes up with a message "Player not found". Does that imply the install failed?
[09:01] <dazvid> or rather, the codecs needed to play mp3's
[09:01] <dabaR> install mpg321 and mpg123
[09:01] <bob2> no codecs
[09:01] <dazvid> ah thanks
[09:02] <dabaR> bob2: why not tell him what to do, it just works here...so I dont know...
[09:02] <bob2> install madplay and ogg123
[09:03] <dazvid> Yeh, Im used to just noobing it in windows.. download 1 program that does it all
[09:03] <dazvid> ala winamp
[09:03] <dabaR> funny that shark guy, and the others talking to him... and the laoye guy swearing...
[09:04] <bob2> well
[09:04] <dabaR> xmms will do that for you...you just got an answer from an advanced user, about the command line program...
[09:04] <bob2> if you use aptitude, it will get it all for you
[09:04] <dabaR> !mp3
[09:04] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:05] <bob2> since cplay Suggests all the bits you need
[09:05] <dabaR> It installed only itself here, I guess I have the other things from before.
[09:05] <dazvid> Thats ok, I want to learn.. its just really different and hard to get used to
[09:05] <dabaR> bob2: aptitude is now the proper cl program to use.
[09:05] <bob2> I think so
[09:06] <bob2> dazvid: as dabaR said, tho, cplay perhaps isn't what you want
[09:06] <dabaR> I mean...I said that as an interesting fact I learned...it says so on the debian site somewhere.
[09:06] <bob2> I like it because I sh to my desktop and run it inside screen, so I can control the music from my laptop
[09:06] <dazvid> Ah.. I see.
[09:07] <dazvid> Well I will keep it anyways :)
[09:07] <spear-north> have a good day, see you !
[09:08] <dabaR> whats so hard about that screen thing...it screws up my irssi session if I open a new terminal tab while using it, and I have still no clue how to use it...any tips or places to look for them, bob2?
[09:08] <bob2> terminal tab?
[09:08] <bob2> in gnome-terminal or in screen?
[09:08] <johndarkhorse> dabaR: search google for "mac osx gems site:macdevcenter.com"
[09:08] <bob2> and how does it screw it up?
[09:09] <dabaR> gnome-terminal,like, ctrl+shift+t, and it just visually gets out of place.
[09:09] <johndarkhorse> dabaR: sorry, its' unix gems site:macdevcenter.com"
[09:09] <dabaR> like, loses sync, so I cant see the previous messages any more.
[09:09] <johndarkhorse> dabaR: switching 'windows' should bring them back
[09:10] <dabaR> good, Ill read that once, thank you.
[09:11] <robertbb> Why is there an rpm directory in /usr/src ?
[09:11] <Ichanz> hi...
[09:12] <Ichanz> can install rpm files on ubuntu ????
[09:12] <Ichanz> can I  install rpm files on ubuntu ????
[09:12] <maximaus> yes
[09:12] <bob2> if you have to
[09:12] <maximaus> alien -i packagename.rpm
[09:12] <bob2> it's better to avoid it if at all possible
[09:13] <Ichanz> i've tried but ... doesnt works ...
[09:13] <bob2> robertbb: the rpm package puts it there
[09:13] <maximaus> certainly don't install vital libraries and stuff like that.
[09:13] <bob2> robertbb: I guess for extracting srpms?
[09:13] <Ichanz> ic
[09:13] <bob2> Ichanz: what did you try to install?
[09:14] <Ichanz> i try to install codeweaver crossover but it comes only with rpm
[09:14] <bob2> that should work fine
[09:15] <Ichanz> hmmm
[09:16] <Ichanz> rpm -i <filenames>  <-- is that correct ????
[09:16] <dabaR> he told you above...alien, not rpm.
[09:16] <Ichanz> ok thx
[09:17] <Ichanz> brb...
[09:19] <robert-in-au> list
[09:20] <robert-in-au> how well does ndiswrapper work?
[09:21] <robert-in-au> hello?
[09:21] <dazvid> robert-in-au,  where in au?
[09:21] <dazvid> :)
[09:21] <robert-in-au> perth
[09:21] <Xanthus7> beside dvd::rip is there any other dvd shrinker
[09:21] <bob2> depends on the card
[09:21] <dazvid> ah, melb here
[09:21] <bob2> it's a horrible hack, tho
[09:21] <bob2> (canberra)
[09:21] <robert-in-au> well i have a dwl-g520+
[09:21] <dazvid> Ah, more aussies lurking
[09:21] <bob2> Xanthus7: there's lots, search using your prefered package management tool
[09:22] <robert-in-au> and the acx100 drivers dont support wpa
[09:22] <Xanthus7> never used that bob how would I do that please
[09:22] <dabaR> im going to sleep...I hope you all had a better week than me:)
[09:23] <bob2> Xanthus7: you've never used a package management tool?
[09:23] <robertbb> How do I get the matching kernel sources for the default Hoary kernel onto my system?
[09:23] <robertbb> They don't seem to appear in Synaptic..
[09:23] <Xanthus7> I have used apt-get is that what you mean
[09:24] <Xanthus7> but package management tool I an sorry not sure what you mean
[09:24] <bob2> apt-cache search dvd rip
[09:24] <johndarkhorse> Xanthus7: synaptic, aptitude, kynaptic, etc are pkg mangling tools
[09:24] <bob2> robertbb: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:24] <Ichanz> dazvid ah, melb here <-- hows chapel st ... i miss the crowd
[09:25] <robert-in-au> well go to "system"
[09:25] <Xanthus7> ok synaptic I understand
[09:25] <robert-in-au> ok
[09:25] <Xanthus7> I had never had heard it called that sorry to sound dumb
[09:25] <robert-in-au> doe ubuntu put kernel sources in different places than other distros
[09:25] <johndarkhorse> Xanthus7: pkg manglers or package managers?
[09:25] <robert-in-au> *does
[09:26] <robertbb> bob2: Is there a reason they don't appear in Synaptic?
[09:26] <antix> robertbb, apt-cache search kernel-source-2.
[09:26] <antix> robertbb, and you get the name if it's there
[09:26] <spiral> hi
[09:26] <robertbb> Will mixing the use of apt-cache / apt-get screw with synaptic though?
[09:27] <robertbb> I was told they will, which is why I am not using apt-*
[09:27] <antix> robertbb, no same thing
[09:27] <robertbb> antix: Awesome..
[09:27] <dazvid> Ichanz, dunno, im actually in Frankston to be precise :P
[09:28] <robert-in-au> is this the only ubuntu irc channel?
[09:28] <Myrtti> no
[09:28] <Ichanz> dazvid Ichanz, dunno, im actually in Frankston to be precise :P <-- i c mate... i thought u r in toorak
[09:28] <robert-in-au> wht others are ther?
[09:28] <theturtle> #kubuntu
[09:28] <robertbb> Hmm.. I still don't get the matching kernel sources to the running kernel.
[09:28] <robert-in-au> ok
[09:29] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-fi, #ubuntu-no, #ubuntu-sv, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-es, #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-you-make-it-up
[09:29] <robert-in-au> wow!
[09:29] <robertbb> I know those places
[09:29] <robertbb> Frankston, Toorak..
[09:30] <Myrtti> you can actually make the channels up
[09:30] <robertbb> I'm from Sandy
[09:30] <robertbb> But I am in Canada right now ;-)
[09:30] <bob2> robertbb: perhaps you haven't rebooted lately
[09:30] <bob2> so you're running an old kernel
[09:31] <bob2> tho it should still have the headers available
[09:31] <robertbb> Hmm.. how would a reboot help?
[09:31] <robertbb> robertbb@thinkpad:/usr/src$ uname -a
[09:31] <robertbb> Linux thinkpad 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:31] <Xanthus7> So bob do you have a dvd ripper you like
[09:32] <theturtle> dvdbackup
[09:32] <theturtle> acidrip
[09:32] <robertbb> Trying to get the matching sources onto the machine so I can compile some ATI drivers
[09:32] <Myrtti> a propos offtopic. I have to say this because I found this great product. I whole heartedly recommend BodyShop nail colours. I do office cleaning after school and that nail polish is the only one that has lasted thru my evening job.
[09:32] <theturtle> lxdvdrip
[09:32] <theturtle> cpdvd
[09:32] <theturtle> dvddecrypter
[09:32] <Xanthus7> yea but to use dvddecrypter you have to use wine
[09:33] <bob2> Xanthus7: thoggen's nice
[09:33] <bob2> if you like theora
[09:34] <bytefoo> my dvd audio always gets out of sync in ubuntu :/
[09:34] <robert-in-au> how do i find the version of a wifi driver i am using?
[09:37] <theturtle> modinfo
[09:38] <theturtle> :/
[09:42] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you could help with the testing of a nickserv patch for SET FILTERED ON on the testnet (irc.freenode.net port 9001) it would help immensely.... please stop by the testnet and message me. Thanks.
[09:45] <brownie17> madpilot: when i try to watch lfash animations, my sound doesn't work, but it works with everything else
[09:46] <brownie17> can anyone help me? when watching flash animations, my sound doesn't work, but it works fine for everything else
[09:46] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: please dont repeat, if anyone knows your answer, they weill speak up
[09:46] <bob2> brownie17: "pkill esd"
[09:46] <dducko> There is a tutorial for sound in the Wiki
[09:47] <dducko> !sound
[09:47] <ubotu> hmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[09:47] <brownie17> bob2: i put that in the terminal, what did it do
[09:47] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: killed your e sound daemon
[09:48] <bob2> brownie17: now try reloading the anmiation
[09:48] <brownie17> what is an e sound deamon?
[09:48] <brownie17> bob2: ok
[09:48] <brownie17> nope, still didn't work
[09:51] <dducko> there is a fix for it.. tyring to find it for you now...
[09:51] <dducko> Sound has not been configured correctly
[09:51] <brownie17> dducko, i havent done anything to configure sound
[09:51] <brownie17> hey, how do i find out if i have and ISA card?
[09:52] <jack-> question..is it possible to have xscreensaver act on other events besides idle time?
[09:52] <jack-> i'd like to control it with the mousepointer..like this corner = blank now, and that corner = never blank
[09:52] <jack-> is that doable?
[09:53] <Madpilot> jack-: didn't win98 (or 95??) used to do that? (vague memories here...)
[09:53] <jack-> yeah, mac os too, etc
[09:53] <gjoemmie> llo there
[09:53] <brownie17> dducko: so how do i configure sound?
[09:53] <gjoemmie> anyone knows a better movieplaying program than totem media player?
[09:53] <jack-> vlc
[09:53] <OculusAquilae> vlc
[09:54] <jack-> www.videolan.org/vlc/download, iirc
[09:54] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: what's not working in totem? (have you installed the various codecs?)
[09:54] <Madpilot> jack-: vlc is in Ubuntu repos, no need for seperate download
[09:54] <jack-> madpilot: dont say you got totem able to play xvid/divx
[09:55] <Agrajag> jack-: totem can play those just fine
[09:55] <jack-> i tried, but didnt find the approprite codecs :<
[09:55] <Agrajag> install totem-xine and w32codecs
[09:55] <jack-> thx!
[09:55] <Madpilot> jack-: think so, just a sec. w32codecs solves most problems...
[09:56] <gjoemmie> anyone wanna talk to me bout those things for a minute plz?
[09:56] <jack-> gjoemmie: apt-get vlc, problem solved
[09:56] <gjoemmie> k tnx
[09:56] <johndarkhorse> gjoemmie: what things? just d/l vlc and enjoy your movies
[09:56] <Madpilot> !tell gjoemmie about restricted
[09:57] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: the URL ubotu just sent you will get Totem (or whatever) playing all your stuff
[09:57] <gjoemmie> I dont understand sorry
[09:57] <gjoemmie> just started using ubuntu still learning
[09:58] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: go here, it's got the info you need: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:59] <gjoemmie> jack-: apt-get vlc doesnt work in my root terminal...
[09:59] <jack-> madpilot: you sure its in ubuntu already? :p
[09:59] <youngcoder> !vfs
[09:59] <ubotu> Not a clue, youngcoder
[09:59] <jack-> i got it from debian/stable, too
[10:00] <youngcoder> has anyone compiled the 2.6.13 kernel?
[10:00] <Madpilot> gjoemmie & jack-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - vlc is in Universe repo
[10:00] <jack-> Agrajag: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[10:00] <bob2> youngcoder: lots of people have
[10:00] <Agrajag> jack-: you need the hoary-extras repository, read the above link
[10:00] <Madpilot> jack-: that's in hoary-extras (because it's quasi-legal). see the bottom of the URL above
[10:00] <jack-> ok, thx :)
[10:00] <gjoemmie> madpilot can u plz talk to me in private for a minute?
[10:01] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: better to ask here, I'm hardly an expert!
[10:01] <youngcoder> bob2, well i have a problem with kernel panic while booting it.. it involves VFS.. any clue what causes that?
[10:01] <gjoemmie> its just I dont know ANYTHING about it
[10:01] <gjoemmie> I learned how to use gtkgnutella
[10:01] <bob2> youngcoder: that's caused by you not configuring it correctly
[10:01] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: anything about what? please be specific!
[10:01] <gjoemmie> so I can download movies
[10:01] <dducko> Could someone tell me what is on www.nvidia.com that might crash firefox?
[10:01] <bob2> youngcoder: why do you want 2.6.13?
[10:01] <gjoemmie> but now  I wanna play them
[10:02] <bob2> dducko: flash?
[10:02] <gjoemmie> but the quality in Totem is very bad
[10:02] <youngcoder> bob2, it is my first kernel compile
[10:02] <johndarkhorse> gjoemmie: dont use the root-terminal, use sudo
[10:02] <Madpilot> dducko: lots of flash?
[10:02] <bob2> youngcoder: why are you compiling it?
[10:02] <youngcoder> bob2, just wanted to do it and see if it works
[10:02] <bob2> youngcoder: ok...
[10:02] <dducko> I dont know.. ive been haveing random problems since i installed the nvidia-glx drivers
[10:02] <bob2> youngcoder: that panic is because you forgot to compile support for your ide/scsi controller and root filesystem into the kernel
[10:03] <youngcoder> bob2, wow thanks i will go fix it
[10:04] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: Totem plays everything I've got, even the few high-quality vids I've got. DVDs too... please follow that RestrictedFormats wiki page, it should get you going.
[10:06] <gjoemmie> but where do i start?
[10:06] <gjoemmie> I never learned through an internet page
[10:06] <gjoemmie> I feel like getting lost all the time
[10:06] <dducko> gjoemmie also after you add the restricted Resources dont forget to update your sources
[10:06] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: start here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:06] <dducko> Just read the paget.. veru informative
[10:07] <brownie17> ARGHGHGH!!! i need help
[10:07] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: after you finish that first page, go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:07] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: at some point, you'll want to read this, too: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:07] <brownie17> i followed what it said in a guide to type lsof /dev/dsp to check what programs were using the soundcard, but nothing happend, it just did the thing to let me type a new command
[10:07] <Madpilot> (but it's not as important)
[10:08] <bob2> brownie17: and?
[10:08] <bob2> brownie17: why do you think that is incorrect?
[10:08] <brownie17> and wasn't it supposed to show me what programs are using the soundcard>?
[10:09] <brownie17> hey, if i have ESD killed, then should Rythmbox work?
[10:09] <dducko> I couldnt find that in the Wiki which i know it is.. so I gave him the forum with it.. it isnt as precise
[10:09] <bob2> brownie17: yes, and no program is using it
[10:09] <gjoemmie> I dont know anything about ubuntu, where do I start?
[10:09] <bob2> start using it
[10:09] <Madpilot> dducko: you mean the Flash sound info? I thought it had been added to the wiki Flash page?
[10:10] <gjoemmie> I dont know anything else but windows...
[10:10] <brownie17> bob2: well rythmbox just says could not open resource for writing
[10:10] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: neither did I until four months ago!
[10:10] <gjoemmie> so how did u learn it?
[10:10] <bob2> brownie17: perhaps you have rhythmbox configured to use esd then...
[10:10] <bob2> gjoemmie: you use it and play
[10:10] <bob2> and listen to people here
[10:10] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: hanging out here, reading the wiki, and lots of books from the library - and lots and lots of messing around...
[10:10] <bob2> and read the mailing list
[10:10] <bob2> and the wiki
[10:10] <brownie17> bob2: i dont know, maybe, i didn't do it delberately though, must have been an auto setting
[10:11] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: seriously, work thru those three URLs I gave you above, they'll get you started with those videos, and introduce you to a bit of the system too
[10:11] <bob2> brownie17: ok
[10:11] <gjoemmie> ok ill try
[10:12] <gjoemmie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:12] <gjoemmie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[10:12] <gjoemmie> which was the third one?
[10:13] <brownie17> restart the session means log off then on again?
[10:13] <bob2> yes
[10:13] <brownie17> ok
[10:13] <johndarkhorse> madpilot is the best!
[10:13] <Madpilot> gjoemmie: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo - but it's not as important as the other two, and contains a lot of Linux-gibberish... (which can be ignored, mostly)
[10:14] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: you there?
[10:14] <Madpilot> johndarkhorse: I'm home, I'm out of beer, so I hang out here and do good... :)
[10:14] <johndarkhorse> heh
[10:14] <gjoemmie> well, thx a million times!
[10:14] <gjoemmie> lets hope I understand them all (I dont even speak good english...)
[10:14] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: I am trying to create an initrd image but mkinitrd isn't creating any. And there are no errors too
[10:15] <GNULinuxer> sudo mkinitrd -o <image_name> kernel_version
[10:15] <bob2> are you on breezy?
[10:15] <emile> is there a wifi chooser for ubuntu?
[10:15] <bob2> and why are you making an initrd?
[10:15] <GNULinuxer> bob2: i am on hoary
[10:15] <GNULinuxer> bob2: 2.6.13
[10:15] <bob2> emile: lots.  netapplet isn't too crap.
[10:15] <bob2> GNULinuxer: but why are you making an initrd at all?
[10:16] <GNULinuxer> bob2: I thought I'd need one as I am not making the fs modules built in
[10:16] <benplaut> how do i start a second Xserver in tty8?
[10:16] <bob2> why would you not build them in?
[10:16] <bob2> benplaut: startx -- :1
[10:16] <bob2> benplaut: (from a terminal)
[10:16] <benplaut> no, a second one
[10:16] <benplaut> that complains that one is already running
[10:17] <bob2> that should start another
[10:17] <benplaut> ooohh
[10:17] <brownie17> dducko, did what you said in that guide, still didn't work
[10:17] <benplaut> with the -- :1
[10:17] <GNULinuxer> bob2: just like that ... but that's not a solution to the problem with mkinitrd ... it should create an image any way right?
[10:17] <bob2> yes...
[10:17] <brownie17> bob2: followed this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567, but still sound does not work in firefox
[10:17] <bob2> GNULinuxer: indeeed, but initrds are black magic, to be avoided whenever possible
[10:18] <GNULinuxer> bob2: heh
[10:18] <bob2> forums in confused advice shocker!
[10:18] <bob2> I wish people would just stop using the forums like that
[10:18] <bob2> if you have an article to write, write it and put it somewhere useful, like on the wiki
[10:19] <brownie17> stop using them like what?
[10:19] <brownie17> is there something wrong with that guide
[10:19] <GNULinuxer> bob2: do you mean just making second extended fs support, ext3 support and reiserfs support built in work ?
[10:19] <brownie17> i'll keep trying, i think i might yet be able to fix it
[10:19] <bob2> brownie17: I wish people would use the wiki or an actual website for articles
[10:19] <bob2> hiding them on the forums is annoying
[10:19] <bob2> GNULinuxer: yes
[10:20] <GNULinuxer> bob2: hmm
[10:22] <benplaut> that's incredible!
[10:22] <johndarkhorse> the wiki is the only place i write articles
[10:22] <benplaut> beagle worked without any cajoling!
[10:22] <GNULinuxer> bob2: are there any debian builds of 2.6.13 available?
[10:22] <johndarkhorse> benplaut: that is indeed
[10:23] <bob2> do not know
[10:23] <bob2> I'm not sure that will actually work on hoary, tho
[10:24] <benplaut> GNULinuxer, if you're looking for the latest and greatest, you might as well use breezy
[10:24] <bob2> breezy does not have 2.6.13
[10:24] <benplaut> oh
[10:24] <benplaut> not even in universE?
[10:25] <GNULinuxer> bob2: hmm ... i tried building on using kpkg ... but it balied out with an error wrt generating some stupid docs
[10:25] <GNULinuxer> s/on/one
[10:25] <GNULinuxer> benplaut: i am afraid, Breezy might break something
[10:25] <benplaut> 2.6.13 might break something  ;)
[10:25] <brownie17> bob2: i made sound work!!! :)
[10:26] <benplaut> but, still, it's easy to boot into a different kernel
[10:26] <brownie17> why does esd work for firefox for some people, but not others
[10:26] <GNULinuxer> benplaut: yes
[10:26] <Madpilot> brownie17: so what's the trick?
[10:26] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about kernels
[10:26] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about kernel
[10:27] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell lsuactiafner about kernel
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: just /msg ubotu <factoid> and he'll tell you whatever you ask for
[10:27] <brownie17> madpilot: there was a another part of the guide that some people had to do, that was more advanced
[10:27] <brownie17> madpilot: and i had to do it
[10:27] <Madpilot> brownie17: ah. I'm just going to wait a month for breezy, it's supposed to have saner sound configs...
[10:27] <brownie17> johndarkhorse: thanx
[10:27] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell lsuactiafner about ubotu
[10:28] <brownie17> madpilot: yeah, are there any like screenshots i can see?
[10:28] <jack-> btw, do all ubuntu binary repos exist for all supported platforms?
[10:28] <jack-> like, is there a hoary-extras for ppc, too?
[10:28] <bob2> lsuactiafner: you can talk to the bot in /msg
[10:28] <bob2> jack-: that's entirely up to whoever does hoary-extras
[10:28] <bob2> jack-: it is not part of ubuntu
[10:28] <johndarkhorse> jack-: yes there are
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> he doesnt want to cyber..
[10:28] <bob2> but it's unlikely to be complete, hoary-extras has all sorts of non-free binary-only junk
[10:28] <Madpilot> brownie17: there have been Breezy screenshots - don't have URLs handy - ask googles
[10:28] <jack-> yeah
[10:28] <Madpilot> *google, even...
[10:29] <jack-> anyway, good to know :)
[10:29] <jack-> i'll give ubuntu a go on my g3 mac
[10:29] <jack-> but all the "official" repos are complete even for ppc?
[10:29] <johndarkhorse> jack it will work well
[10:29] <jack-> thats awesome :)
[10:29] <Madpilot> brownie17: lots of pics: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=342&slide=27&title=ubuntu+linux+5.10+colony+1+breezy+badger+screenshots
[10:30] <bob2> jack-: complete as much as possible
[10:30] <jack-> i'm really afraid of building stuff myself with this slow mac :p
[10:30] <bob2> jack-: e.g. openoffice 1 is fucked on amd64
[10:30] <bob2> jack-: and lilo only works on i386, etc
[10:30] <jack-> ok
[10:30] <benplaut> !tell brownie17 about breezy
[10:30] <jack-> yeah i know, thats np
[10:30] <benplaut> there's a link in there, brownie17
[10:30] <nubbe> howto fool sites like cnn.com ito thinking I got WMP?
[10:31] <johndarkhorse> jack-: no need to build
[10:31] <johndarkhorse> jack your G3 is fully supported by ubuntu
[10:31] <johndarkhorse> nubbe: mmsclient
[10:32] <jtan325> does anyone here use breezy
[10:32] <jack-> johndarkhorse: great :)
[10:34] <benplaut> jtan325, i do
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> i do too
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> oh benplaut is your System --> log out working ?
[10:34] <jack-> does w32codecs work for anyone in here? (trying to play xvid .avi files in totem still fails)
[10:34] <benplaut> yup
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> funny
[10:34] <benplaut> no to jack-
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> mine doesn't
[10:34] !lilo:*! Hi all. Just a reminder: please help us test the latest nickserv changes.... testnet is irc.freenode.net, port 9001 .... if you can't get there, message me here for help; if you get there, stop by #freenode
[10:34] <benplaut> yes to wickedpuppy
[10:34] <bob2> jack-: works for lots of people
[10:35] <bob2> I wouldn't bother with totem, tho
[10:35] <jtan325> benplaut, what's the easiest/safest way to upgrade cairo to 1.0
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> jack-, i just played .avi naruto
[10:35] <jtan325> i mean
[10:35] <benplaut> dunno, never tried
[10:35] <jack-> maybe requires some newer gfx hw..
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> in totem
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> jack-: w32codecs dont work on ppc
[10:35] <jack-> its an old p2 box with a rage2
[10:35] <jtan325> benplaut, does breezy give you problems?
[10:35] <jack-> not ppc johndarkhorse :)
[10:35] <jack-> p2, 450mhz
[10:35] <bob2> jack-: no, graphics hardware has nothing to do with it
[10:35] <benplaut> jtan325, a few, here and there... nothing serious
[10:35] <Madpilot> jack-: totem plays all my .avi files as far as I know
[10:35] <jtan325> benplaut, what level of problems?
[10:36] <jtan325> I'm alright with unix and stuff
[10:36] <dducko> I seem to be haveing some issuesfollowintg the Unofficial guide.. for installing Flash..
[10:36] <jack-> i'll check out "naruto"
[10:36] <Madpilot> !flash
[10:36] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:36] <dducko> it says.. sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[10:36] <jtan325> but i have no idea whether i'd be able to fix up my distro myself
[10:36] <benplaut> the OO.org dictionary, can't change boot text font, some weirdness with Qt themes...
[10:36] <Madpilot> dducko: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats instead of the ubuntuguide
[10:36] <benplaut> nothing that really effects working with it
[10:36] <bob2> jtan325: messing with libcairo is not a good idea
[10:36] <benplaut> just personal prefences
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, the only problem i got is that i can't shut down by System --> Log out ... if i go there .. all my menu hangs
[10:36] <johndarkhorse> dducko: if you're referring to the ubuntuguide, dont follow it too closely, it can lead you into trouble in some cases
[10:36] <benplaut> ditto to bob2
[10:37] <dducko> Thanks for the warning
[10:37] <jack-> hmm doesnt exist
[10:37] <jtan325> bob2, i work on a dev team for a program that needs cairo 1.0.0
[10:37] <jack-> wickedpuppy, what did you mean?
[10:37] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[10:37] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[10:37] <Madpilot> dducko: see above ^^^
[10:37] <jtan325> that's why i'm trying to get it working...
[10:37] <dducko> ahh cool..
[10:37] <wickedpuppy> jack-, you shut down by going to system --> log out and choose shut down right ?
[10:37] <mumbles> how do i change a network settings?
[10:37] <dducko> thought some was out of date.. wasnt too sure
[10:37] <bob2> jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it
[10:37] <jack-> i rarely do that at all
[10:37] <jack-> but yes
[10:37] <wickedpuppy> well ... seems if i do that i can't use any meny anymore
[10:38] <wickedpuppy> menu
[10:38] <jtan325> ugh
[10:38] <jtan325> already installed...
[10:38] <wickedpuppy> i just have to kill x and shutdown by sudo shutdown -h now
[10:38] <bob2> jtan325: where did you elaborate further on the problem?
[10:39] <jtan325> bob2, what do you mean? really, the problem traces down to when i try to compile the program i'm working on
 jack-, i just played .avi naruto
[10:39] <jack-> ?? ;)
[10:39] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[10:39] <jtan325> bob2: it says
[10:39] <mumbles> any ideas ?
[10:39] <nubbe> johndarkhorse, Thanks for the tip, I'll check it
[10:39] <wickedpuppy> avi is fine :P
[10:39] <jtan325> /usr/lib/libcairo.so: undefined reference to `FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden`
[10:40] <jack-> well, my totem used to say "cant play, bad format"
[10:40] <jack-> now i installed w32codes, and it doesnt complain anymore
[10:40] <jack-> but hangs :P
[10:40] <bob2> jtan325: er
[10:40] <dducko> I have all of the restricted repos yet it still says that is not found flashplugin-nonfree, yes apt-get update has been ran
[10:40] <bob2> jtan325: that's because you didn't tell the configure script to use your version of cairo
[10:40] <jack-> is vlc really the only sane videoplayer? d'oh
[10:40] <bob2> mplayer's saner
[10:41] <bob2> even if the authors are not
[10:41] <jack-> for xvid/divx too?
[10:41] <jack-> need those badly
[10:41] <bob2> of course
[10:41] <jack-> ok, thx
[10:41] <jtan325> bob2, would you know how to do that?
[10:41] <Madpilot> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[10:42] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[10:42] <jack-> damn which mplayer do i want :) -custom or -586 ?
[10:42] <jack-> bob2
[10:42] <bob2> jtan325: 18:37:53           bob2 | jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it
[10:42] <Madpilot> dducko: see above ^^^ , it's in Multiverse
[10:42] <bob2> jack-: 586, I suppose
[10:42] <jack-> ok
[10:42] <jtan325> bob2: arg, ok, i guess i'll have to pray that synaptic fixes these broken packages
[10:43] <jtan325> bob2: actually, that doesn't look like a good idea
[10:43] <bob2> jtan325: this does not have anything to do with synaptic
[10:43] <bob2> or ubuntu packages
[10:43] <bob2> or whatever
[10:44] <jtan325> well right now i've got 6 broken packages...
[10:44] <jtan325> among them libc6, libfontconfig, libxrender-dev
[10:44] <bob2> this is entirely unrelated to cairo
[10:44] <jtan325> well
[10:44] <bob2> unless you did something extraordinarily silly like modifying your cairo in /usr/
[10:45] <jtan325> no
[10:45] <jtan325> didn't do that
[10:45] <jtan325> but
[10:45] <bob2> or installed a broken homebrew cairo package
[10:45] <jtan325> when i tried to "dpkg -i" cairo 1.0 (official release)
[10:45] <jtan325> it complained about dependencies
[10:45] <jtan325> so i followed those, downloaded the .deb's for those
[10:45] <jtan325> mostly stable, some testing, none experimental
[10:45] <bob2> wtf
[10:46] <bob2> you're boned then
[10:46] <jtan325> installed them, and then finally libcairo worked
[10:46] <bob2> reinstall
[10:46] <bob2> and don't do such silly things in future
[10:46] <jtan325> well
[10:46] <jtan325> how else would you install libcairo
[10:46] <bob2> dude
[10:47] <bob2> I've told you how, twice
[10:47] <bob2> 18:42:21           bob2 | jtan325: 18:37:53           bob2 | jtan325: well, install it to /usr/local/ and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need it
[10:47] <jack-> bob2, is there some graphical frontend app for mplayer, too?
[10:47] <jtan325> no, i've read that
[10:47] <jtan325> so you mean install libcairo by compiling from source or something?
[10:47] <bob2> yes
[10:48] <bob2> if it has a different SONAME, you could compile the debian source package of 1.0
[10:49] <dducko> evem after verifying the multiverse is listed I still cannot access flashplugin-nonfree
[10:49] <jtan325> bob2: i'll see what i can do
[10:49] <dducko> either in apt of synaptic
[10:49] <jtan325> thanks for your help though
[10:49] <ompaul> dducko, apt-get update first
[10:49] <dducko> did that.. several times actually
[10:50] <bob2> installing .debs like you did is a terrible idea
[10:50] <bob2> even if you know exactly how apt and dpkg work, unbreaking it now would take quite a wile
[10:50] <johndarkhorse> jack-: gmplayer
[10:50] <jtan325> yea bob2 it was a true n00b mistake
[10:51] <jack-> thx :)
[10:51] <GNAM> I want 2.6.13 in breezy
[10:51] <ompaul> dducko, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl and let us progress from there
[10:51] <jack-> johndarkhorse: hmm
[10:51] <bob2> I want a pony
[10:51] <jack-> not in any of my repos
[10:51] <GNAM> pony is offtopic
[10:51] <ompaul> bob2, you can't have one
[10:51] <jack-> johndarkhorse: where to get it?
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> jack you (to my knowledge) have to recompile mplayer --with-gui  or something like that
[10:52] <jack-> ahh
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> jack-: and if you recompile mplayer, make sure you compile the kitchen sink into it
[10:53] <jack-> ok
[10:53] <bob2> GNAM: perhaps yo ucould elaborate on why you want 2.6.13?
[10:53] <dducko> ompaul done.. under dducko
[10:54] <johndarkhorse> jack-: you'll need to compile aac support and all that  into it (at least i wanted aac support)
[10:54] <GNAM> because it's latest
[10:54] <jack-> yeah, me too
[10:54] <jack-> lets see if i'll manage
[10:55] <dbzdeath> hey does anyone know why i can't use gcc? i just removed the gcc package and installed the gcc-3.4 package and it doesn't work
[10:55] <jdub> dbzdeath: install build-essential
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> dbzdeath: you can have more than one version of gcc
[10:55] <dducko> uninstalling gcc is bad.. did it have lots to take away with it?
[10:55] <ompaul> dducko, first up you duplicate the last line :) that can go
[10:56] <GNAM> i have 4/5 version of gcc
[10:56] <dbzdeath> dducko: nope
[10:56] <dducko> yeah did that trying to add multiverse again
[10:56] <jack-> gcc5 isnt out yet :p
[10:56] <ompaul> dducko, remove the cdrom with a # always better to get from the net
[10:56] <jack-> guess you mean 4.0.5 or something
[10:56] <dbzdeath> johndarkhorse: i get file not found when i try to run the command gcc ...
[10:56] <GNAM> version -> versions
[10:56] <johndarkhorse> dbzdeath: jdub suggested a possible fix
[10:57] <jdub> dbzdeath: you need the gcc package to provide the gcc symlink, otherwise you can use 'gcc-4.0' or 'gcc-3.3' etc.
[10:57] <bob2> GNAM: then go compile it yourself
[10:57] <dbzdeath> hmmm it now wants to install gcc-3.3 again
[10:57] <bob2> it sounds like a waste of time
[10:57] <bob2> dbzdeath: because you removed gcc
[10:57] <bob2> dbzdeath: all you have now is gcc-3.4
[10:58] <dbzdeath> bob2: yeah... i don't see the problem with that?
[10:58] <Madpilot> anyone here use CVS, ideally with Screem? I'm fiddling with it, and it's being... difficult
[10:58] <dducko> ompaul done and done.. (and thanks for the help)
[10:58] <bob2> dbzdeath: indeed
[10:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> I thought you meant CVS Pharmacy.
[10:58] <bob2> dbzdeath: so, cal gcc-3.4 if that's what you want
[10:58] <dbzdeath> cal?
[10:58] <bob2> call
[10:59] <bob2> this sounds like a bad idea tho
[10:59] <bob2> not least because of the ABI changes
[10:59] <jdub> dbzdeath: the 'gcc' package installs the gcc symlink
[10:59] <jdub> bob2: doesn't matter for gcc :-)
[10:59] <pepsi> bob2, vmware works :)
[10:59] <dducko> ompaul I just notice all of the rest of them have a deb-src line.. should multiver have that too?
[10:59] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: no, the Concurrent Versions System!
[11:00] <bob2> jdub: it does if you want to use any C++ libraries
[11:00] <ompaul> dducko, I am editing your existing one
[11:00] <jdub> bob2: 'gcc' != 'g++' :-)
[11:00] <dducko> ok thank you
[11:00] <dbzdeath> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.5/libstdc++.a when searching for -lstdc++ anyone know what that means?
[11:00] <bob2> hah
[11:00] <bob2> indeed
[11:00] <bob2> I win!
[11:01] <jdub> dbzdeath: that means you're using out of step versions of gcc :-)
[11:01] <dbzdeath> jdub: out of step?
[11:01] <bob2> dbzdeath: why do you want g++ 3.4 so badly?
[11:01] <dbzdeath> bob2: don't really ... just trying to get this program to compile
[11:01] <jdub> dbzdeath: you have a library built with on gcc ABI, and you're trying to build against it using a different gcc
[11:02] <bob2> dbzdeath: just using the default gcc is going to be a lot simpler then
[11:02] <jdub> dbzdeath: install build-essential :-)
[11:02] <LamerX> hey all, i've read through all the forums and i've set up a few different nVidia cards before, but for some reason on my laptop, i've got no 3d acceleration. I even get the nvidia logo when X starts, does anybody know what might be the problem?
[11:02] <dbzdeath> jdub: i already did that... and no go
[11:02] <dbzdeath> same error
[11:02] <bob2> no, you removed build essential
[11:02] <bob2> by removing "gcc"
[11:02] <jdub> dbzdeath: don't build with gcc 3.4 then - use gcc
[11:02] <dbzdeath> bob2: no i installed it *after* i did that
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> LamerX : glx aint running
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> its software not hardware glx
[11:03] <bob2> dbzdeath: install build-essential, and use gcc as the compiler.  what error do you get?
[11:03] <pepsi> how do i know which of those modules to load? dri, glcore, glx, etc
[11:03] <pepsi> what does each do?
[11:03] <LamerX> lsuactiafner, how do i make sure glx is running?
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> glxinfo | grep direct
[11:03] <dbzdeath> bob2: see above ... thats the error with build-essential ... and i'm assuming its using gcc
[11:03] <Madpilot> good night, all, it's 0200 here. later...
[11:04] <LamerX> lsuactiafner: direct rendering: Yes
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> LamerX : if it aint direct then i got no idea how to fix it, i dont use the ubuntu packages, i use the drivers directly from nvidia.com
[11:04] <stonehead> ehm.. stupid question: why don't I get core files, even when ulimit -c is unlimited?
[11:04] <bob2> dbzdeath: what are you compiling? how?
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> hmmm
[11:04] <bob2> pepsi: http://people.freedesktop.org/~ajax/dri-explanation.txt
[11:04] <LamerX> yeah i'm mega-confused
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> LamerX : in /etc/X11/xorg.conf see if you are using nvidia not just nv as a display driver
[11:05] <LamerX> yeah it's nvidia
[11:05] <dbzdeath> bob2: p7zip on amd64 ubuntu ... i just typed make all as the instructions said
[11:05] <HappyFool> stonehead: that doesn't sound right
[11:05] <bob2> dbzdeath: after running what?
[11:05] <LamerX> lsuactiafner: i even get the nvidia logo when X starts
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> LamerX : then no idea
[11:06] <LamerX> ok thanks for the help
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> maybe the card aint good?
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> try nvidia-settings
[11:06] <LamerX> nah the card worked under gentoo
[11:06] <LamerX> ill check the nvidia settings
[11:06] <HappyFool> stonehead: 'ulimit -c unlimited' does the right thing here
[11:06] <dbzdeath> bob2: According to your OS, copy makefile.linux, makefile.freebsd, makefile.cygwin, ...   over makefile.machine
[11:06] <dbzdeath> as it said
[11:06] <stonehead> stn@rafe:~ $ ulimit -c
[11:06] <stonehead> unlimited
[11:06] <dbzdeath> so i copied the amd64 makefile
[11:07] <ompaul> dducko, have a look at that
[11:07] <stonehead> Segmentation fault
[11:07] <stonehead> You've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit
[11:07] <stonehead> http://bugs.xmms.org and fill out a bug report.
[11:07] <stonehead> (same shell, of course, no core.)
[11:08] <ompaul> dducko, and make a backup of what you have before you overwrite sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[11:08] <LamerX> anybody might know why i'm getting no 3d acceleration after installing nvidia drivers?
[11:08] <LamerX> is there anything i do in my xorg.conf besides change "nv" to "nvidia" ?
[11:08] <HappyFool> stonehead: hmm. i think it's probably an xmms thing. maybe they try to do something clever with segfaults
[11:08] <HappyFool> LamerX: have you read the nvidia wiki page?
[11:08] <ompaul> !tell LamerX about nvidia
[11:09] <LamerX> i haven't seen the wiki page, where might i find that?
[11:09] <stonehead> happyfool: I have an mp3 that repeatedly causes segfaults. does xmms have a channel?
[11:09] <ompaul> HappyFool, LamerX  has the url now :)
[11:09] <HappyFool> LamerX: ompaul has wielded the cluebat
[11:09] <HappyFool> stonehead: i think so
[11:09] <dducko> ompaul Thanks.. trying it now
[11:09] <LamerX> oh yeah thanks
[11:09] <ompaul> dducko, apt-get update first !
[11:09] <ompaul> :)
[11:09] <stonehead> happyfool: thanks, will try there.
[11:10] <dducko> ompaul... yep.. and worked perfectly thanks.
[11:10] <LamerX> ok, i've done all that, i get the nvidia logo but still no accel, any ideas?
[11:10] <LamerX> is the GeForce2Go maybe no supported?
[11:11] <dducko> darn.. still didnt fix my issue....
[11:11] <dbzdeath> bob2: any ideas??
[11:12] <dducko> is there a way to install Nvidia's drivers that they distribute?
[11:12] <HappyFool> LamerX: i can put my xorg.conf on the pastebin, if you want
[11:12] <FatDarrel> dducko, sure just make sure you have your kernel sources and use their shell script
[11:12] <dazvid> dducko, there is a forum topic on installing the latest nvidia drivers
[11:12] <HappyFool> LamerX: maybe you can compare the   Section "Module" part, but I don't know if it'll help
[11:12] <Cashel> re hi... anyone know how I can download ubuntu packages w/ out using the package manager?? 14.4kbps thanks to linuxant :(
[11:12] <dazvid> search on ubuntu forums :)
[11:12] <LamerX> HappyFool: ok that would be great, i would really appreciate it!
[11:12] <samu2> so, i was wondering if you can install ttc truetype font collections for ubuntu somehow, or maybe you can extract the ttf files from them?
[11:12] <dducko> ahh Ok thanks..  Kernel sources...... ummm.....
[11:12] <dducko> *goes to look for this stuff*
[11:13] <LamerX> HappyFool, what channel is the pastebin?
[11:13] <HappyFool> LamerX: it's a website... standby
[11:13] <thenuke> LamerX: pastebin.org
[11:13] <LamerX> oh ok
[11:13] <dducko> sad thing is I have to use links to go to the Nvidia site.. otherwise i crash firefox
[11:13] <HappyFool> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1890
[11:14] <LamerX> HappyFool, thanks for the paste!
[11:14] <LamerX> let's see how it compares
[11:15] <dbzdeath> anyone know why my system might be so unresponsive? it is pretty bad... scrolling down a web page with just text on it can make my cpu usage go to 100% or just even typing in here it will sometimes spike or opening up another tab etc. on a athlon 64 3000+
[11:15] <pepsi> top
[11:16] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: is dma enabled on your hard drives?
[11:16] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmmm i'm not sure
[11:16] <youngcoder> HappyFool, !! heya
[11:16] <dbzdeath> in regards to that i should have default
[11:16] <benplaut> 'night :)
[11:16] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' (or /dev/<whatever>)
[11:16] <HappyFool> youngcoder: hi ;)
[11:16] <Cashel> what pepsi said... top .. make sure the mem total is right...
[11:18] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmm one hard drive reports it as off the other(the sata disk.. the one that runs the OS) reports... well nothing it just spits out /dev/sda:
[11:18] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: i've rarely used sata, but i think controller support can be a problem
[11:19] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: lets say its off... should i enable it? if so how? maybe that will help?
[11:19] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: well, you can try, but by default it should be on
[11:19] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: try 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda'
[11:20] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: it isn't for my other hard drive...
[11:20] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: so it's on for on sata drive, not for the other?
[11:20] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: are the drives connected to the same sata controller?
[11:21] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: well the sata one doesn't report... but the other well that says its off ... ummm i'm not sure if they're on the same controller
[11:21] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: is the 'other one' also sata?
[11:21] <dbzdeath> nope ide
[11:22] <dbzdeath> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <--- i get that when trying to enable dma on the sata drive
[11:22] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: all i can suggest is googling for your motherboard model (or sata controller model) and linux or ubuntu. I would guess there's no kernel support for dma for that sata controller.
[11:23] <HappyFool> Cashel: you want to download packages without using apt ?
[11:23] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmmm... well since one is ide and the other sata... they have to be on different controllers... i'm pretty sure
[11:23] <HappyFool> Cashel: you can try something called apt-zip, it may be what you want
[11:23] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: presumably
[11:24] <mumbles> work time
[11:24] <pawdro> hello, on system startup I have a message 'Can't find sxt3 filesystem on hda2' (that's linux), but my native fs is reiserfs, and I have hda2 in fstab writtes as reiserfs
[11:24] <pawdro> whats wrong?
[11:25] <Cashel> soooo.... anyone know how I can manualy download packages from ubuntu?
[11:25] <mumbles-work> apt-get
[11:25] <mumbles-work> ?
[11:25] <Cashel> HappyFool, correct
[11:25] <dbzdeath> hmmm HappyFool could my problem be to do with this... i get a whole bunch of this spam when i check dmesg... smb_errno: class ERRDOS, code 21 from command 0x80
[11:25] <mumbles-work> anyways im off to work
[11:25] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: because my system WAS running fine
[11:25] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: all i can suggest is google
[11:26] <scanwinder> what sidebars like google desktop are for linux?
[11:27] <nightswim> what is a sidebar
[11:27] <Cashel> dbzdeath, restart all samba related stuff?
[11:28] !lilo:*! Services will be restarted in a moment to remove the erroneous SET UNFILTERED ON artifacts....
[11:28] <dbzdeath> Cashel: Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. do you know what that is?
[11:28] <scanwinder> nightswim: bars that like stay on the side with buttons and email integration and new etc etc
[11:28] <scanwinder> nightswim: desktop.google.com
[11:29] <Cashel> dbzdeath, do I know what what is? (read: no)
[11:29] <dado> hi all, i need help with cedega, i cannot run games in 1280x800 (16:10 Widescreen)!
[11:29] <nightswim> doesnt gdesklets or something do stuff like that
[11:29] <dbzdeath> hmmm
[11:29] <HappyFool> scanwinder: you can add applets to the panel (right-click on a panel, choose 'add to panel'). Panels are the bars at top and bottom of the screen.
[11:30] <Cashel> dbzdeath, whats on top of top?
[11:31] <dbzdeath> Cashel: hmmm well it seems to be running alright now ... i did restart samba and i did stop the copying via samba that i was doing
[11:31] <dbzdeath> so it has to be samba related
[11:31] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: well, if dma is disabled, all disk i/o goes through the cpu
[11:32] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: AHHHH so that would be why
[11:32] <dbzdeath> thats a lot of pressure then on the cpu
[11:32] <johndarkhorse> nightswim: gdesklets, adesklets, and superkaramba all have wonderful eyecandy
[11:32] <dbzdeath> wait a minute.... its copying not to my sata disk but to my other disk
[11:33] <HappyFool> well, it will at the very least cause context switches etc
[11:33] <HappyFool> you said dma wasn't enabled there either, iirc
[11:34] <HappyFool> not having dma on your main hdd (including swap partition) would probably cause a noticeable performance lag
[11:34] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: yes thats my point... if i enable it on the non sata disk it should fix it?
[11:34] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: it will help transfers to that disk, presumably
[11:34] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted i get that when i try hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda <--- thats the drive that repots that dma is disabled
[11:35] <johndarkhorse> dbzdeath: enabling dma on all your disks is a good idea, imho
[11:35] <dbzdeath> johndarkhorse: yeah i know... having a little trouble with that here though :(
[11:35] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: all i can guess is lack of kernel support for your ide/sata chipset
[11:36] <dbzdeath> hmmmm
[11:36] <dbzdeath> its a via chip
[11:36] <dado> guys, how can i run games on 1280x800 in cedega? please help me :)
[11:36] <HappyFool> Cashel: i'd seriously consider buying a new modem; i have a intel 536ep based winmodem and it works perfectly well
[11:36] <dbzdeath> isn't via cips supported well on linux?
[11:36] <HappyFool> dado: try #cedega
[11:37] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: ask google
[11:37] <dbzdeath> via k8t800 chipset
[11:37] <Cashel> is samba the only method available for rw on ntfs drives??
[11:37] <HappyFool> Cashel: samba is for network filesystems, not for accessing ntfs drives
[11:37] <dbzdeath> Cashel: captive ntfs is your friend
[11:37] <HappyFool> Cashel: ubuntu has read-only support for ntfs
[11:38] <HappyFool> doesn't captive require a patched kernel?
[11:38] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmm afaik no...?
[11:38] <dbzdeath> i've only used it on knoppix
[11:38] <Cashel> never had a sata drive, but isnt there some sort of scsi kernel modules for it?
[11:38] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: ah, they may have patched there. someone here was trying to install it on ubuntu and couldn't
[11:38] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: i may be wrong
[11:38] <dbzdeath> yeah so may i
[11:39] <Cashel> hmmm did a locate: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_promise.ko
[11:40] <HappyFool> Cashel: there are probably more; isn't there a sata.ko too?
[11:40] <Cashel> I would definetly be search for a sata howto were I you...
[11:40] <Cashel> +ing
[11:40] <dbzdeath> yup my ide controller is P_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.1 <--as shown in dmesg
[11:40] <dbzdeath> seems supported
[11:41] <Cashel> HappyFool, yeah, that was for example....
[11:42] <Cashel> I have a conextant modem unfortunetly... bastards charge for drivers.. 15 USD .... for that I could buy a new modem! heh
[11:42] <Cashel> .. if I had 15 bucks atm, which I dont unfortunetly..
[11:42] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: interesting. VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.0  (from by dmesg)
[11:42] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: by = my?
[11:42] <HappyFool> yeah
[11:42] <dbzdeath> hmmm what motherboard?
[11:43] <HappyFool> err
[11:43] <Cashel> bbl
[11:45] <HappyFool> not sure of the model anymore. gigabyte, with amd 2500XP
[11:46] <dbzdeath> ah
[11:47] <dbzdeath> i have a asus k8v se deluxe
[11:47] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hdparm -i /dev/sda spits out some stuff
[11:50] <dbzdeath> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29443.html interesting looks like what i have
[11:52] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: well, the one guy there has some concrete suggestions (floogy)
[11:53] <dbzdeath> does anyone know the difference between dma and ultradma?
[11:54] <brownie17> hey, i am trying to use "doom legacy" a game i found in synapitic
[11:54] <brownie17> and i cannot
[11:55] <brownie17> it gives me an error about doom.wad
[11:55] <brownie17> says it doesnt exist
[11:55] <brownie17> anyone else use this game?
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: i think you need the original doom .WAD file to play it
[11:55] <brownie17> happyfool: yeh i downloaded it from the internet
[11:56] <brownie17> still doesnt work
[11:56] <HappyFool> brownie17: sorry, never actually used it. read the docs (probably in /usr/share/doc/doom-legacy/ or similar)
[11:56] <brownie17> ok
[11:56] <jack-> could someone do me a huge favor, do "cat /usr/share/applications/screensaver-properties.desktop" and paste me the results in pm? :<
[11:57] <jack-> pleaseplease..
[11:57] <HappyFool> jack-: i'll try pastebinning it, though i'm not sure what's going to happen with utf8 stuff
[11:57] <jack-> ok, thx :)
[11:58] <Gnonthgol> jack-: cat: /usr/share/applications/screensaver-properties.desktop: No such file or directory
[11:58] <Gnonthgol> lol
[11:58] <HappyFool> jack-: hmm, here it is: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1891
[11:59] <HappyFool> jack-: looks a bit dodge though; evidently the utf-8 got mangled
[11:59] <Gnonthgol> HappyFool: thanks
[11:59] <jack-> np, many thanks
[12:00] <dbzdeath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA <-- in the troubleshooting section can anyone tell me how to read that? i can't make out what i'm meant to put for what(i know its kinda a stupid question :/)
[12:00] <dbzdeath> nm
[12:05] <osfameron> hmm, sound juicer is reading at 1.4x speed
[12:05] <osfameron> on WinXP it ran ca 10x speed
[12:05] <osfameron> any suggestions ?
[12:06] <brownie17> should this copy a file from my desktop to the games directory? "sudo cp /home/fraser/Desktop/doom1.wad /usr/games/doom1.wad
[12:06] <brownie17> "
[12:08] <dbzdeath> YAY! i got dma going on my ide drive(no more lag)... alas the sata drive doesn't have it running
[12:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: looks ok
[12:09] <HappyFool> osfameron: try changing the rip settings to be less strict
[12:09] <dbzdeath> dammit ... has anyone here got dma working on a sata drive?
[12:10] <furic> I need a stand alone version of gnome-color-picker, where would i obtain that?
[12:10] <HappyFool> osfameron: though i can't see how to do than in sound juicer
[12:11] <HappyFool> osfameron: also, try turning on dma on the drive (not sure if that affects ripping, but it might)
[12:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> Was Freenode down for a moment?
[12:11] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: not in the last 90 minutes
[12:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> If I right-click an ISO file, and select "Write to Disc" - will it burn the iso as an iso, or all the information on the ISO to disc?
[12:13] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: it should burn the contents of the iso; i.e., you won't see a CD with a single file 'foo.iso' on it, but whatever's inside the iso
[12:13] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: on cd/dvd drives?? yeah dma can make a difference
[12:14] <Alex_BO> HELLO!i would like to install mondo, but i can't find it on synaptic.of course repository problems.anybody can help me?
[12:16] <osfameron> HappyFool, dbzdeath: how do I turn on dma?  (And what is it? :-)
[12:16] <dbzdeath> umm
[12:16] <dbzdeath> direct memory access
[12:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's a good download manager?
[12:16] <Alex_BO> HELLO!i would like to install mondo, but i can't find it on synaptic.of course repository problems.anybody can help me?
[12:16] <dbzdeath> as HappyFool said it allows direct writing to and from a device instead of going through the cpu
[12:16] <bimberi> Alex_BO: it's in the universe repository (for i386 anyway)
[12:17] <Gnonthgol> Alex_BO: where can I find mondo?
[12:17] <dbzdeath> osfameron: try hdparm -d1 /dev/device
[12:17] <dbzdeath> replace device with your drive
[12:17] <Alex_BO> Gnonthgol, it's my question :-)
[12:17] <osfameron> dbzdeath: ta, I'll try that :-)
[12:17] <emile> where can is resize desktop icons?
[12:17] <sedatc> what does executable mean in ubuntu
[12:17] <HappyFool> !tell osfameron about dma
[12:17] <HappyFool> !tell Alex_BO about repos
[12:18] <Alex_BO> bimberi, how can i insert it?would you mind write me the line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:18] <sedatc> which extension an exe has and can I change it
[12:18] <HappyFool> sedatc: files are 'marked' as executable
[12:18] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about dma
[12:18] <bimberi> Alex_BO: HappyFool has just made ubuto send you a link to some instructions
[12:18] <osfameron> dbzdeath, HappyFool: thanks :-)
[12:18] <tear> is there an FTP client precompiled in ubuntu? if not, any recomendations?
[12:18] <dbzdeath> osfameron: your welcome
[12:19] <bimberi> *ubotu
[12:19] <mjr> tear, you can open ftp:// locations with nautilus
[12:19] <mjr> tear, gftp is popular too
[12:19] <bimberi> uboto: sorry
[12:19] <dbzdeath> anyone here know if sata can use dma?
[12:19] <HappyFool> sedatc: you can right-click files in nautilus, choose Properties and look at the 'Permissions' tab to change read/write/execute status
[12:20] <sedatc> HappyFool: the eclipse problem still continues. I just realized that when I try to execute jar directly by not clicking exe file everything is fine.But when I try to use exe it looks for jre in current directory
[12:20] <Alex_BO> maybe i am stupid
[12:21] <Seveas> !lart bimberi
[12:21] <Seveas> :)
[12:21] <HappyFool> heh
[12:21] <bimberi> ouch! :)
[12:21] <sedatc> HappyFool, so is there a way I can change the content of it
[12:21] <Alex_BO> i have activated ALL the repositories as the inscructions said (i checked with /etc/apt/repositories.list) but it can't find anything
[12:21] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's a good download manager?
[12:21] <bimberi> Alex_BO: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:22] <HappyFool> Seveas: i used your pastebin to upload some utf-8 file, and this is what happened: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1891  (not a complaint, just out of interest ;)
[12:22] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: are you using synaptic?
[12:22] <tear> thanks mjr
[12:22] <Seveas> HappyFool, awesome :)
[12:23] <Seveas> (the pastebin apparently isn't utf-8 compatible )
[12:23] <Alex_BO> bimberi, HappyFool: yes, i'm sorry: i made a mistake. the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <Gnonthgol> !info mondo
[12:23] <ubotu> mondo: (powerful disaster recovery suite), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 2.04-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 461 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[12:23] <emile> i'm still having trouble switching between wireless lans. what would be the right approach?
[12:23] <HappyFool> Seveas: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>  (first line in pastebin .html)
[12:24] <fblade1987> how can i compile a program that has a make file?
[12:24] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: are you using synaptic or apt-get/aptitude?
[12:24] <emile> there are two wireless network, one with key (i connect to it during install) and one public without key which i want to switch to now
[12:24] <HappyFool> fblade1987: 'make' is the usual way
[12:24] <emile> i installed netapplet to help me out, but no luck
[12:24] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, either with synaptic or with apt-get i can't find it
[12:24] <emile> any help?
[12:25] <Cashel> and now I'm connected at 56k!!! And what did I change you ask? Absolutely nothing... very strange...
[12:25] <Gnonthgol> emile: try iwconfig
[12:25] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: when you type 'sudo apt-get update', does it seems to check for the extra repos?
[12:26] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, can i write my sources.list in pv?
[12:26] <HappyFool> sedatc: let me see how i run eclipse -- i think it's here
[12:26] <tear> what codecs would be needed to play xvid?
[12:26] <dbzdeath> dammit what the hell my ide drive is performing faster than my sata drive... fucking dma
[12:26] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: use the pastebin, then other ppl can see too: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:26] <tear> or rather, where to I get them
[12:26] <HappyFool> !tell tear about restricted
[12:26] <Seveas> fblade1987, make
[12:27] <Alex_BO> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1892
[12:29] <sedatc> HappyFool, I can run eclipse from command line but what I curious about is executables.
[12:29] <emile> Gnonthgol: how can i set wireless channel, it gives error 'operation not supported
[12:29] <sedatc> HappyFool, can I change it . It doesnt look like scripts or something
[12:30] <HappyFool> sedatc: what do you want to do? start eclipse from the desktop?
[12:30] <bimberi> Alex_BO: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" or "Reload" in Synaptic since updating your repositories?
[12:30] <Gnonthgol> emile: just try #iwconfig wlan0 essid "Default"
[12:31] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: there's an error on line 20
[12:31] <sedatc> I want to learn about exes how it produced.
[12:31] <sedatc> HappyFool,
[12:31] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: it should be multiverse, not 'm ultiverse'
[12:31] <HappyFool> sedatc: umm.
[12:31] <ompaul> sedatc, exes are not a natural item in linux they are a strangeness from the land of MS
[12:31] <HappyFool> sedatc: you mean what are executables in linux?
[12:31] <bimberi> Alex_BO: line 6 has something similar
[12:32] <sedatc> HappyFool, yes exactly
[12:32] <HappyFool> sedatc: any file which has the 'executable' bit set is, in principle, executable
[12:33] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, bimberi: i promise you that my file is correct
[12:33] <bimberi> Alex_BO: it's probably just a pasting issue
[12:33] <Cashel> !tell Cashel about restricted
[12:33] <HappyFool> sedatc: there are at least two types of executable, binaries and scripts. binaries have a specified format (ELF, i think), scripts start with #!<interpreter> and are usually (always?) text files
[12:34] <sedatc> HappyFool, hmm. Again I will ask the same question can I change the content of it. Because this idiot looks for jre in wrong place
[12:34] <sedatc> HappyFool, this is way I cant run eclipse directly
[12:34] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 is a sample, 'correct' sources.list
[12:34] <HappyFool> sedatc: add a launcher to the panel or desktop to run eclipse
[12:35] <HappyFool> sedatc: right-click on the panel, choose 'Add to panel' then 'Custom application launcher', and give the command you use to start eclipse on the command line
[12:35] <sedatc> HappyFool: I already did it thank you
[12:35] <HappyFool> sedatc: i don't really understand what you want to do, sorry
[12:35] <Rabih> Hi!
[12:35] <sedatc> HappyFool: my problem was about exes
[12:36] <ompaul> sedatc, if you type file infront of a file name you will see what kind of file it is
[12:36] <Rabih> I'm trying to install my wlan-card.
[12:36] <Cashel> apt and synaptic use the same package database right?
[12:36] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, is that your sources.list?
[12:36] <bimberi> Cashel: yes
[12:36] <nalioth> well folks, it's been fun
[12:36] <Cashel> thanks
[12:36] <nalioth> i'm leaving my paying job now and going home and going to sleep
[12:37] <nalioth> be back in 12 hours from the office
[12:37] <nalioth> y'all be good
[12:37] <ompaul> sedatc, for instance if you type file /etc/apt/sources.list you get one answer and if you type 'file /usr/bin/finger' you get an answer now beyond that there is a lot more
[12:38] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: no, though mine is similar (i think)
[12:38] <Rabih> Question 1: The Readme says $make -C /path/to/source SUBDIRS=$PWD modules (Where /path/to/source is the path to the source directory for the (configured and built) target kernel.) So, what is the /path/to/source in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, can you paste me yours?
[12:38] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: stand-by
[12:39] <bimberi> lol
[12:39] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, what?
[12:40] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1893
[12:40] <sedatc> ompaul, okey I got it. Thank you something new for me
[12:40] <ompaul> sedatc, for a file which has things that can be executed it can be executed in one of two ways - one is by passing it to a shell 'sh file_to_be_executed' and the other is to use the shell you are in to invoke the command so in a terminal in your home directory you type 'nano' it starts an editor, but linux is in no way like that other thing that claims to be an operating system which defines the type of file by its extention name
[12:40] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: i think the deb-src lines might be incomplete
[12:40] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: but you can probably just comment those out if you don't want to do any compiling
[12:41] <ompaul> sedatc, you need to read some stuff online I think using uncle google and the terms 'file permissions linux faq' you may get the kind of info you want
[12:41] <Cashel> Rabih, I believe that would be /usr/include/linux  ... may just want /usr/include tho
[12:41] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/src/linux
[12:42] <Cashel> oh yeah
[12:42] <Cashel> heh
[12:42] <lsuactiafner> should learn to make your own kernsl Cashel
[12:42] <sedatc> ompaul, thank you very much
[12:42] <ompaul> sedatc, and you can also just for fun learn about 'export shell variables'
[12:42] <Cashel> lsuactiafner, I have on prev distros .... kinda happy w/ ubuntu the way it is, for now at least..
[12:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there a way I can get a deb package for OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta 2?
[12:43] <Rabih> Thank you!
[12:43] <Cashel> lsuactiafner, as usual, I'll wait until I have a problem that requires it, heheh
[12:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> err..
[12:43] <sedatc> ompaul, I know some part of it 'shell variable' I used before them but I never see or use executables before
[12:43] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, can you search mondo with $ apt-cache search mondo ?
[12:43] <ompaul> sedatc, np have fun in this more obvious world as you loose the shackels of the bad mindset of other operating systems with their almost random restrictions and funny syntax
[12:43] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, with your sources.list i can find only mondo-doc
[12:44] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: mondo - powerful disaster recovery suite
[12:44] <Cashel> unimportant question but is there any reason not to use alien packages if they work? (if they dont, thats ubviously a good reason, hehe)
[12:44] <sedatc> ompaul, I mean ELF that use shared library
[12:44] <HappyFool> Cashel: one reason might be not getting updates from ubuntu repos automatically
[12:44] <bimberi> Alex_BO: are you using amd64?
[12:44] <HappyFool> Cashel: but if the software isn't in the repos, you'd need to manually do that anyway
[12:44] <Alex_BO> bimberi, yes
[12:45] <ompaul> sedatc, so look at shared library on google if you have a specific question then ask it - shared libs are exactly what they say on the tin - shared and can be called by several execuatables
[12:45] <Alex_BO> bimberi, don't say me that there isn't a version for amd64
[12:45] <bimberi> Alex_BO: alright I won't then :(
[12:45] <sedatc> when I start ubuntu I get a warning that says utf8 for fat32 is not recommended iocharset. I wonder what I should use instead
[12:46] <sedatc> ompaul, thanks I will google it
[12:46] <bimberi> Alex_BO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/mondo
[12:46] <Rabih> I'm going to try it out now, bye.
[12:46] <sedatc> ompaul, I already solve my problem
[12:46] <Cashel> I see.. so no performance reasons? I ask because I installed several libraries that way...  (other than build, which would be the case anyways)
[12:46] <ompaul> sedatc, and you learn some too, not a bad day all around
[12:46] <Alex_BO> nooooooo!only for i386!!!!
[12:47] <Alex_BO> so, can't i use it?
[12:47] <sedatc> ompaul, yes thank a lot
[12:47] <HappyFool> Cashel: i can't see how performance would come into it
[12:47] <ompaul> sedatc, np
[12:47] <sedatc> ompaul, can you answer my other question about iocharset for fat32
[12:48] <ompaul> sedatc, no, because I have no fat32 or ntfs so I do not learn how to do anything with it
[12:48] <Cashel> good to know thanks..
[12:48] <sedatc> ompaul, okey thank you anyway
[12:49] <ompaul> sedatc, np have a great day
[12:49] <brownie17> how do i change permissions on a directory through the terminal?
[12:49] <dbzdeath> brownie17: chmod
[12:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> chmod ### <dir>
[12:49] <bimberi> Alex_BO: Have a look here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[12:50] <ompaul> brownie17, what do you want to change them to? and as a matter of interest what directory do you want to change?
[12:50] <brownie17> i unzipped a folder to my desktop, and now i want to delete the folder
[12:51] <sedatc> HappyFool, have you got any suggestion fro my question about iocharset for fat32
[12:51] <brownie17> chmod ### <dir>
[12:51] <ompaul> brownie17, so that is to delete the file
[12:51] <ompaul> brownie17, did you unzip it as root?
[12:51] <Cashel> rm -r /home/theuser/Desktop/foldername
[12:51] <brownie17> no... but i still dont hav persmissons to delete it
[12:52] <ompaul> brownie17, ls -l foldername please
[12:52] <brownie17> cashel: tried that, it said i didnt have permission to do it
[12:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> sudo rm -are <dir> maybe ?
[12:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> err
[12:52] <brownie17> the foldername is Linux
[12:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> rm -are
[12:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> Oh, I see the problem...
[12:52] <ompaul> brownie17, ls -l Linux  please
[12:53] <HappyFool> sedatc: i'm not sure. have you had any problems yet?
[12:53] <brownie17> fraser@brownie:~$ ls -l /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux
[12:53] <brownie17> total 40
[12:53] <brownie17> -r--r--r--  1 root root 34844 2001-04-03 18:27 audio1_3_tar.gz
[12:53] <brownie17> -r--r--r--  1 root root  2844 2001-04-03 18:27 ReleaseNotes.txt
[12:54] <brownie17> fraser@brownie:~$ sudo rm -are /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux
[12:54] <brownie17> Password:
[12:54] <brownie17> rm: invalid option -- a
[12:54] <brownie17> Try `rm --help' for more information.
[12:54] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[12:54] <Cashel> brownie17, rm -r is fine ... password is the same as the first user you created...
[12:55] <GranMaestro> Hi everybody, is matthew around here?
[12:55] <Cashel> matthew_w ?
[12:55] <dbzdeath> ahh gotta love gentoo users... so helpful
[12:55] <Seveas> matthew who?
[12:55] <ompaul> brownie17, 'sudo rm -rf  /home/fraser/Desktop/Linux'
[12:55] <GranMaestro> matthew east
[12:55] <Cashel> was helping him with fstab about ummmm 2 hours ago, 3 maybe...
[12:55] <Seveas> !seen mdke
[12:56] <Cashel> o
[12:56] <GranMaestro> trying to start ubuntu from an external fwdrive
[12:56] <GranMaestro> can anybody help?
[12:56] <Rabih> Ho.
[12:56] <Seveas> GranMaestro, mdke is not around right now
[12:56] <Cashel> wb Rabih
[12:56] <Rabih> WLAN-installation part 2 ;)
[12:57] <GranMaestro> Seveas, any idea where to get hold of him?
[12:57] <Rabih> So, the readme says as mentioned: $make -C /path/to/source SUBDIRS=$PWD modules (Where /path/to/source is the path to the source directory for the (configured and built) target kernel.)
[12:57] <Cashel> yay! a package manager that actualy works! what a change
[12:58] <Seveas> GranMaestro, the mailing lists or #ubuntu-doc when he's there
[12:58] <Rabih> So I tried: make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
[12:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone know what the debian package is for Deerpark?
[12:58] <Rabih> It says: make: *** /usr/src/linux: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.  Schluss.
[12:58] <GranMaestro> Seveas, sorry to bother.. which mailing list? :)
[12:58] <Rabih> (File or directory not find. End.)
[12:59] <Seveas> ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com or ubuntu-doc@lists
[12:59] <GranMaestro> Seveas, OK thanks
[12:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ich habe ein Meerschweinchen!
[01:00] <HappyFool> sea-pig ?
[01:00] <Rabih> I also tried the same with /usr/include/linux and /usr/include. Then it says: make: Gehe in Verzeichnis /usr/include/linux
[01:00] <Rabih> make: *** Keine Regel, um "modules" zu erstellen.  Schluss.
[01:00] <Rabih> make: Verlasse Verzeichnis "/usr/include/linux"
[01:00] <Rabih> (No rule to create "modules". End.)
[01:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Guinea Pig.
[01:00] <Seveas> Rabih, what are you compiling?
[01:00] <Rabih> Can anybody help me?
[01:00] <HappyFool> Rabih: try /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/
[01:00] <Rabih> A driver for a WLAN-card
[01:00] <Seveas> which?
[01:00] <Rabih> RT2500
[01:01] <Seveas> they have drivers in ubuntu
[01:01] <Rabih> But it doesn't work?
[01:01] <Seveas> it does for lots of people
[01:01] <Rabih> The card is not shown in the network properties
[01:01] <Rabih> only in the device manager
[01:01] <Seveas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[01:01] <Seveas> read that
[01:03] <meeep> hi. im trying to get sound with games, like tuxraces and enemyterritory, it works fine in players(esound) but not in games? what can be do
[01:03] <Rabih> That's nice, but all those wget and apt-get doesn't work without internet connection
[01:03] <Seveas> Rabih, true...
[01:03] <Seveas> (for the wget)
[01:03] <Seveas> the apt-get things are on the cd
[01:03] <Rabih> Ah
[01:03] <Rabih> Okay
[01:03] <Seveas> and the one wget thing can be downloaded manuall
[01:03] <Seveas> y
[01:04] <jack-> question: if i want to run windows on my ubuntu pc..is wine ok or should i get vmware instead?
[01:04] <Seveas> vmware
[01:04] <Rabih> Well, thank you very much.
[01:04] <Rabih> I'll try it out now.
[01:04] <Rabih> So I've got to leave.
[01:04] <Seveas> good luck!
[01:04] <Rabih> Thanks!
[01:05] <jack-> does wine suck?
[01:05] <Rabih> Bye!
[01:05] <jack-> i'll give it a try
[01:05] <HappyFool> is it true one can get windows xp going with Xen ?
[01:05] <mjr> jack-, wine doesn't run windows, it reimplements it. Thus, it is also incomplete, and may or may not run the software you want.
[01:05] <jack-> ahh ok
[01:06] <Cashel> wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator  ... gotta love circular definitions...
[01:06] <jack-> so vmware is like the only way to "emulate" a full windows inside linux, right?
[01:07] <mjr> jack-, no, not the only way, there are other similiar solutions, eg. the free qemu
[01:07] <mjr> vmware is probably the fastest though
[01:07] <jack-> nice, ok
[01:07] <brownie17> am i still banned
[01:07] <brownie17> no
[01:07] <brownie17> yay!
[01:07] <brownie17> ok
[01:08] <brownie17> i have a problem, when i got to type "apt-get update" i get the following error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1894
[01:08] <HappyFool> according to this http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8540 some guys have gotten windows xp sp2 running on some weird hardware
[01:08] <HappyFool> err
[01:08] <jinroh> xsane 0.9.6, ubuntu 5.0.4, Problem - xsane will not recogonize my scanner.  It only see my tv card.  If I run xsane as root the scanner is recognize; but, xsane recommends that you don't run as root.  My user is a member of the scanner group. Does anyone have any ideas how to correct this problem?
[01:08] <robert-in-au> GNU -> GNU's Not Unix
[01:09] <HappyFool> on Xen on some weird hardware, that is
[01:09] <robert-in-au> are you trying to run apt-get and synaptic at the same time?
[01:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: try 'sudo apt-get <whatever>'
[01:09] <brownie17> nope
[01:09] <robert-in-au> try sudo
[01:10] <brownie17> haha, darn sudo
[01:10] <brownie17> i always make stupid mistakes like that
[01:10] <brownie17> :)
[01:10] <dbzdeath> yeah i don't use sudo... i only find it a pain
[01:10] <brownie17> thanks
[01:11] <dbzdeath> i know what i'm doing not to fuck something up royally :P
[01:11] <brownie17> why don't people always use the root terminal?
[01:11] <robert-in-au> i cant get ndiswrapper to work - what is the driver file you need ?
[01:11] <dbzdeath> brownie17: ^^^ to do with that
[01:11] <dbzdeath> sudo has some good uses
[01:11] <brownie17> i get ya
[01:11] <dbzdeath> sudo = good for noobs
[01:11] <HappyFool> !ndiswrapper
[01:11] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:11] <dbzdeath> i much prefer su :)
[01:12] <robert-in-au> and if you don't want to keep sudo'ing then you can "sudo su"
[01:12] <HappyFool> you can use 'sudo -s' to get a root shell
[01:12] <ompaul> dbzdeath, sudo is in every security book it was developed in or about 1980 and you know better :) I love it :)
[01:12] <HappyFool> i believe 'sudo su' is not recommended, though i'm not sure why
[01:12] <dbzdeath> robert-in-au: ya or you can set a root password(my preferred method)
[01:12] <robert-in-au> i am following that guide
[01:13] <LaserLine> what's the best Emule client for Ubuntu ?
[01:13] <ompaul> !sudo
[01:13] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:13] <dbzdeath> ompaul: heh it has its disadvantages... like a user often won't put a complex password for their normal user account ... and if they are a sudoer ...
[01:13] <robert-in-au> yea but i dont bother - you can log in as a root user without that
[01:14] <thenuke> dbzdeath: if user does not have good passwords.. why on earth he would then have strong password for root
[01:14] <dbzdeath> thenuke: i'm talking in a environment with no root password(sudo only)
[01:15] <brownie17> how can i check if totem is set up to use xine
[01:15] <HappyFool> irresponsible users should not have admin rights
[01:15] <ompaul> dbzdeath, they should have good passwords from one end of their access to the other
[01:15] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: true .. but that isn't always the case
[01:15] <robert-in-au> dbzdeath: if you kill gdm then you can log in and then sudo startx"
[01:15] <dbzdeath> ompaul: ya they *SHOULD* but they don't
[01:16] <robert-in-au> brb - dinner
[01:16] <dbzdeath> robert-in-au: ... what? ... that will just run gnome as root
[01:16] <ompaul> one concurs but that is no reason to abandon the additional logging of sudo over su - yes you can give me the 'bash and trace' arguements but at the end of the day sudo beats su hands down
[01:16] <brownie17> how can i check if totem is set up to use xine
[01:17] <kemik> using sudo really isnt that hard ;)
[01:17] <ompaul> brownie17, apt-get install totem-xine
[01:17] <kemik> and there's not many tasks in every-day use that relly require root privileges
[01:17] <highvoltage> hi. which audio rippers work well under ubuntu besides sound-juicer (specifically for mp3)
[01:17] <dbzdeath> kemik: tis a pain when you gotta do a lot of work as root
[01:17] <Nalioth> highvoltage: grip
[01:17] <jack-> highvoltage: cdparanoia, cdda2wav
[01:17] <highvoltage> ok, i'll try those.
[01:18] <brownie17> ompaul: it says its going to remove gstreamer, i dont want it to do that do i?
[01:18] <kemik> dbzdeath:  there is "sudo -i" if you really dont have time to prefix with sudo ;)
[01:18] <ompaul> dbzdeath, now there is not that much work to do and sudo X works for 15 minutes after the first kick off unless you change the values
[01:18] <ompaul> brownie17, you want xine and totem so you do want to do that
[01:18] <kemik> i've even begun to use sudo on my other non-ubuntu boxes
[01:18] <highvoltage> i saw one similar to sound-juicer that was great, but can't remember what it was called.
[01:18] <kemik> instead of using su -
[01:18] <jack-> thats grp, i bet
[01:18] <ompaul> kemik, and you find administration as easy I take it
[01:18] <jack-> erm, grip
[01:19] <brownie17> ompaul: but without Gstreamer i won't be able to play mp3's and stuff nwo will i?
[01:19] <jack-> cdparanoia/cdda2wav are console things
[01:19] <kemik> ompaul:  ofcourse, if i was bugged out with sudo i wouldnt install it ;)
[01:19] <ompaul> brownie17, ehh you will use totem
[01:19] <apokryphos> brownie17: it's not removing gstreamer
[01:19] <apokryphos> brownie17: only totem-gstreamer.
[01:19] <Nalioth> apokryphos: howdy
[01:19] <apokryphos> hi there
[01:19] <brownie17> apokryphos, so in all other programs, i can play mp3's?
[01:19] <dbzdeath> i still prefer to have a root account
[01:20] <apokryphos> Nalioth: nothing quite like a siesta in the day
[01:20] <ompaul> dbzdeath, that is really very close to trolling in here, you have told us that several times
[01:20] <apokryphos> brownie17: you're not removing gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:20] <brownie17> apokryphos, aren't I? ok
[01:20] <apokryphos> brownie17: it tells you exactly what it removes
[01:20] <brownie17> apokryphos: i don't fully understand, but i think i get the gist of it
[01:21] <apokryphos> brownie17: what does it say it's giong to *remove*? Only totem-gstreamer, eh?
[01:21] <brownie17> apokryphos: yeh, only totem-gstreamer, that's all
[01:21] <dbzdeath> ompaul: hmmm ... and you keep trying to fight me on my opinion...
[01:21] <apokryphos> brownie17: then it's only removing the gstreamer-backend for *totem*
[01:21] <apokryphos> brownie17: since totem will now be using the xine engine
[01:22] <brownie17> apokryphos: will totem run mp3's through xine now?
[01:22] <apokryphos> indeed
[01:22] <brownie17> oh ok, so no worries?
[01:22] <brownie17> goodie
[01:22] <apokryphos> (well, it should -- I play mp3s with amaroK)
[01:22] <Nalioth> apokryphos: i work on weekends only, 18 to 6 sat and sun nights
[01:22] <apokryphos> (with the xine engine)
[01:22] <ompaul> dbzdeath, no I have told you in my opinion you are wrong, and that of most of the people who help in here, that is all, but I would suggest you are missing the point if you use a root account
[01:23] <ompaul> apokryphos, with super cow powers?
[01:23] <hume> hi.... i got a character set problem: i try to sync or copy files from my debian server running iso8859-1 to my ubuntu laptop (utf-8) through ssh,  and get character conversion problems. Is there a way to tell ssh to translate between iso8859-1 and utf8?
[01:23] <dbzdeath> ompaul: ... you do realise i don't STAY logged in as root...
[01:24] <queuetue> Hello. Can anyone recommend how to have a linux server that goes to sleep and wakes up on http and ssh requests?  A) is this possible?  B) Can someone show me docs?
[01:25] <ompaul> dbzdeath, not the point, I do not agree with using root except when installing that is it, not open to debate with me, I would need a thesis to convince me that I have the wrong opinion
[01:25] <codenut> who developed the "sudo" command?
[01:25] <brownie17> so what does the "su" command do? what is the difference between that and "sudo"
[01:25] <ompaul> codenut, some guy in at&t in 1981 if I recall correctly
[01:25] <dbzdeath> ompaul: opinion can't be wrong... you should know that because opinion is NOT fact
[01:26] <codenut> ompaul:I have messed up more systems as root than I could care to imagine.
[01:26] <brownie17> dbzdeath: ompaul:if this was worth fighting over, then i would probably join in with one of you, but let's just all agree to disagree. becasue i don't like unecesary conflict, and i don'rt want anyone to get banned
[01:26] <Nalioth> brownie17: su is "switch user" sudo is "super user do"
[01:27] <bimberi> codenut: http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/history.html
[01:27] <brownie17> nalioth: so whne people so "su", then mean, log in as root?
[01:27] <sewoyl> hello, the network configuration window only shows a WEP key field for my wifi, but the network uses a WPA key. Is it impossible to connect to such a network with ubuntu 5.04?
[01:27] <codenut> thanks brownie.
[01:27] <pirast> !gcc4
[01:27] <ubotu> pirast: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:28] <brownie17> codenut: :) no worries mate
[01:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> !info debaux
[01:28] <ubotu> debaux: (Debian Auxiliary Programs), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.1.7-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:28] <ompaul> dbzdeath, okay, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Nalioth> brownie17: usually, "su" means log in as root, cuz most folks dont have a multiuser machine at home (and why would they log into Janes account anyway?)
[01:28] <Orby> people su rather than sudo cos its less to type :)
[01:28] <brownie17> nalioth: hahaha
[01:29] <HappyFool> hrm. courtesan.com is not a domain i would associate with linux security
[01:29] <kemik> Orby:  indeed, and thus they more frequently break there systems
[01:29] <brownie17> orby: that ridiculous, its two more letters! it only takes about .25 of a second
[01:29] <codenut> way cool info on sudo, neat to note it is 10 years old.
[01:29] <Orby> kemik: they shouldnt even have root on their system then :D
[01:29] <HappyFool> sounds more like 25 years to me
[01:30] <codenut> I like being isolated from my system a bit, I have to think more.
[01:30] <codenut> Thinking more is good in my case.
[01:30] <brownie17> hahaha
[01:30] <kemik> brownie17:  nah, it takes 4 more letters for each command... doing "su" will log you in as root 'permanently'
[01:30] <sewoyl> can anybody help me with my wpa key thing?
[01:31] <Cashel> that was unpleasant... and I'm back to 14.4 :(
[01:31] <kemik> Cashel:  modem ?
[01:31] <brownie17> kemik: oh i get you
[01:32] <Cashel> kemik, softmodem :(
[01:32] <brownie17> sewoyl: sorry, i nkow nothiing about wifi, ask madpilot or nalioth :) they alwasy help me out!
[01:32] <brownie17> so... who lives in australia?
[01:32] <robert-in-au> hello again
[01:33] <Nalioth> brownie17: that is a nice thing to say, but i've got some serious limits in my knowledge
[01:33] <sewoyl> brownie17, thanks for noticing me :)
[01:33] <robert-in-au> me!!!
[01:33] <bimberi> sewoyl: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[01:33] <brownie17> sewoyl: i know how frustrating not knowing anything about an Os is, form experience :)
[01:33] <brownie17> nalioth: so did jesus :)
[01:34] <Cashel> no love for HappyFool?? mans been bustin his arse in here all night...
[01:34] <slibs> does anyone have a clue why, when i play some game, for an example stepmania, after i have stopped playing and i close the game, my keyboard won't let me hold keys anymore, but if i reboot x then, everythings is back to normal
[01:34] <sewoyl> bimberi, thanks i'll check that out!
[01:34] <bimberi> sewoyl: yw :)
[01:35] <Cashel> "hold keys" ?
[01:35] <BurgerMann> I'm using KDE, does anyone know any irc clients that comes near mIRC?
[01:35] <Nalioth> BurgerMann: try xchat
[01:35] <bobbyd> BurgerMann, xchat is cool
[01:35] <brownie17> so, what's the deal with that ubuntu guide thing? it's unoffical and very unnacurate.
[01:35] <BurgerMann> I'm already using xchat.. heh
[01:35] <Nalioth> brownie17: i see most folks' questions, but if i dont have the knowledge, i generally don't answer
[01:35] <Nalioth> brownie17: lets not bring that up.. .. ..
[01:36] <HappyFool> !tell brownie17 about ubuntuguide
[01:36] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[01:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[01:36] <hume> anyone knows if there is a way to make ssh translate between character sets?
[01:36] <kemik> the official FAQ will be nice
[01:36] <brownie17> nalioth: i like to answer anyway, even though i never know the answer, just so people know they've been heard. but either is fine.
[01:36] <kemik> hume:  nafaik
[01:37] <ompaul> hume, no, but I have one mad idea, set the environment in the shell that shh uses just before you ssh -C who@what
[01:37] <hume> ok, thx
[01:37] <ompaul> hume that may be a good idea but as to how you would do it I do not know
[01:38] <robert-in-au> where is the best place to put a small how-to to get toshiba A200 (maybe others) keyboard/touchpad working
[01:38] <robert-in-au> because i found how to do it
[01:38] <HappyFool> robert-in-au: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <Cashel> hume, is your reason for asking because of escape characters... ?
[01:39] <robert-in-au> k - shlud i put it in the forums too
[01:39] <slibs> robert-in-au, also ubuntu forums is good
[01:39] <hume> Cashel, no, swedish characters in file names (i know....but people use them)
[01:39] <robert-in-au> k
[01:39] <HappyFool> robert-in-au: you need to get an account; it's free and instant, here: http://launchpad.net
[01:39] <kemik>  ;)
[01:39] <hume> Cashel, makes files duplicate and enter chaos
[01:39] <hume> kemik, right..:)...swede?
[01:39] <kemik> yup
[01:39] <hume> solution..:?...
[01:40] <kemik> as ompaul said perhaps.. try setting the locale variable just before SSH'ing
[01:40] <codenut> When I try to ssh into my ubuntu box I get disconnected right away
[01:40] <codenut> It is there, just locked out, any hints on enabling it on my home network?
[01:41] <Cashel> bummer
[01:41] <slibs> can you recommend me a way to get icons working again in themes (icons that belongs to downloaded theme) after i installed gperfection2 all icons in nautilus stopped working
[01:41] <Alex_BO> i have to compile a program, but it has a lot of dependecies.is there a way to resolve automatically these dependencies?
[01:42] <Nalioth> codenut: are you running "ssh codenut@boxes.ip.address.?
[01:42] <HappyFool> codenut:  /var/log/auth.log to find out why
[01:42] <HappyFool> hmm
[01:42] <HappyFool> was still editing that. stupid emacs.
[01:42] <codenut> Thanks I will look
[01:44] <brownie17> back
[01:45] <brownie17> i wanted to change my name to just brownie, but it was allready registered
[01:45] <hachre> hehe
[01:45] <bobbyd> how do I stop applications I install adding themselves to the startup list?
[01:45] <hachre> next time use /nick brownie :P
[01:45] <bobbyd> and how do i gety a list of what is run on startup?
[01:45] <reiki_> how do I kill off a "ghost" of myself here?
[01:45] <Nalioth> bobbyd: don't install them
[01:46] <bobbyd> Nalioth, but I want to install some things and only run them sometimes
[01:46] <Nalioth> reiki_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[01:46] <hachre> reiki_: /msg nickserv help
[01:46] <shinu> anyone here uses a usb bluetooth adapter?
[01:46] <codenut> Happyfool, I just used a text editor in a terminal window called "editor"
[01:46] <Nalioth> !tell bobbyd about smeg
[01:46] <codenut> worked great.
[01:46] <HappyFool> shinu: i do now and then
[01:46] <brownie> it still says it is ownedby someone else hachre
[01:46] <Nalioth> bobbyd: ubotu is helping you out
[01:46] <hachre> brownie: oh, thats what you mean
[01:46] <Nalioth> brownie: then you're on borrowed time
[01:46] <brownie> brb
[01:46] <codenut> I did not see SSHd in the auth.log files
[01:46] <hachre> brownie: well you can use it as long as the other brownie doenst mind :)
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: simple question: how do i get it to work? :)
[01:47] <codenut> I would love to use Midnight Commander on this box.
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: can i use something similar to ndiswrapper or the likes?
[01:47] <HappyFool> shinu: i installed gnome-bluetooth, and then tweaked a pin file somewhere
[01:47] <apokryphos> ompaul: no, that's an extra plugin ;-)
[01:47] <apokryphos> Nalioth: cool; I do night shifts too often. How do you find them?
[01:47] <bobbyd> Nalioth, I'm not talking about menus, I'm talking about the sysv stuff
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: i just apt-got bluetooth-tools
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: /etc/bluetooth/pin is one place to set the pin
[01:48] <shinu> HappyFool: wait.. ill search for a tutorial maybe...
[01:48] <Nalioth> bobbyd: sorry, we're out of my league at this point
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: i think there's a way to get a prompt, but this worked for me
[01:48] <shinu> HappyFool: so i have to set a fixed pin?
[01:48] <Nalioth> apokryphos: its the 12 hour break in between that kills me
[01:48] <apokryphos> Nalioth: do you sleep as soon as you get home?
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: no, as i said, there's a way to get a prompt, but i'm not sure how
[01:48] <shinu> see
[01:49] <shinu> HappyFool: ill mess around a bit and come back :P
[01:49] <Nalioth> apokryphos: nope
[01:49] <apokryphos> :|
[01:49] <ompaul> apokryphos, ehh, okay
[01:49] <Nalioth> apokryphos: monday morning (when i get off) i'm damn near dead
[01:49] <ilba7r> any one use fluxbox?
[01:50] <apokryphos> Nalioth: most I've done is 5 nights in a row =)
[01:50] <Nalioth> apokryphos: 2 12-hour shifts with a 12hr break in between
[01:50] <apokryphos> Nalioth: I pretty much always sleep when I get home.
[01:50] <bimberi> bobbyd: 2 possibilities.  Have a look at update-rc.d or using ...
[01:50] <apokryphos> mine are only 10 hours though
[01:50] <bimberi> !tell bobbyd about bum
[01:50] <ompaul> 7 nights of 13 hours in the 80's, ohh what fun we had
[01:51] <ompaul> half an hour on each end to hand over
[01:51] <Nylira> Is there anyone here that knows how I can force dmegs to update the info it has?
[01:51] <ompaul> Nylira, what info do you want it to have
[01:52] <Nalioth> alright, i've got to have a nap
[01:52] <Nylira> I had a usb device attached which crashed
[01:52] <Nylira> The device itself is now unplugged
[01:52] <highvoltage> how do i access my cellphone's gprs modem with bluetooth?
[01:52] <Nylira> but dmesg keeps giving me crap that the device is still found
[01:52] <brownie> hachre: i can't :( becasue i can't identify i can only get into the unreggistered lobby without his password
[01:53] <hachre> oh
[01:53] <hachre> brownie: i see :(
[01:53] <Nylira> amazingly though the SCSI disk it presumes its on gives errors .. which is rather logical since it is neither connected not mounted
[01:54] <Nylira> my proc/scsi/scsi correctly tells me which scis devices are attached
[01:55] <pef> hi
[01:55] <Nylira> dmegs seems to be the only pain since it refuses to update
[01:55] <Nylira> added problem is now that when I plug in the device dmegs gets even more confused
[01:55] <ompaul> Nylira, I do not have an answer but I would be looking at something like this http://tinyurl.com/72t6e and search the page for refresh
[01:55] <pho> hi
[01:56] <ompaul> Nylira, can you plug it in to another usb port ?
[01:57] <pho> when i want to get the browser showing internetpages, or the messengers connect i have to reset the connection by the router after each boot....
[01:57] <pho> is there a program existing which solves that problem?
[01:58] <Nylira> well I did that previously also
[01:58] <Nylira> When I first plugged the device it allocated the thing to sdc
[01:58] <Nylira> device crashed
[01:58] <Nylira> unmounted it
[01:58] <Nylira> Dmesg showed it was still attached while proc/scsi/scsi told me it wasnt
[01:58] <Nylira> replugged it
[01:59] <Nylira> then it added the same device another time but now under sdd
[01:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> in cli what's the ls equivalent to DOS' "dir /w" ?
[01:59] <Nylira> so currently while I have now cleanly unmounted the device
[01:59] <shinu> HappyFool: i just downloaded gnome-bluetooth and it worked :P
[01:59] <Nylira> I STILL have this device on sdc AND sdd
[02:00] <Nylira> or so says dmesg
[02:00] <HappyFool> shinu: good stuff ;)
[02:00] <spiral> hi
[02:00] <Nylira> I looked at that page but I cant make much of it
[02:00] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: plain 'ls' ?
[02:00] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: what do you want from ls? /w is 'wide', right?
[02:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Yes.
[02:00] <shinu> HappyFool: ^^ but ill fiddle around later to see if i can get it working any *other* way :D
[02:01] <dbzdeath> anyone know of a good program to extract multiple archives? like zip rar arj etc.?
[02:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok, I guess the window wasn't stretched large enough
[02:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[02:01] <brownie> i guess you have all heard of winamp, i want to know if beep media player can acces the "shoutcast tv" broadcasts that winamp can?
[02:01] <HappyFool> shinu: if you want to transfer files etc you can hack obex-ftp
[02:01] <HappyFool> shinu: but it's not (even remotely) user friendly
[02:02] <dbzdeath> brownie: xmms should be able to access shoutcast... dunno about beep media player
[02:02] <linforcer> hey can anyone tell me where I find with whirch useflags  certain ubuntu packages have been compiled?
[02:02] <linforcer> (more specifically vlc)
[02:02] <brownie> dbzdeath: which is better? the userguide recommened beep, is xmms good?
[02:02] <dbzdeath> brownie: xmms is basically the same as winamp.. so if you like winamp i'd go with xmms
[02:02] <shinu> HappyFool: heh... i was trying to run this bluetooth file sharing but seems like it doesnt work xD
[02:03] <dbzdeath> i've never used beep media player
[02:03] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: afaik bmp is xmms with gtk ui
[02:03] <reiki> !smeg
[02:03] <ubotu> smeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:03] <HappyFool> shinu: the libs are there, but the apps need to catch up
[02:03] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: oh?
[02:03] <shinu> heh
[02:03] <dbzdeath> hmm HappyFool isn't xmms gtk ui?
[02:03] <dbzdeath> by default
[02:03] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: so i believe
[02:04] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: i'm not really in the know; this is what i remember reading here on #ubuntu
[02:04] <dbzdeath> ah gtk vs gtk2?
[02:04] <dbzdeath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[02:05] <brownie> this is going to sound REALLY stupid, but what is a kernel
[02:06] <brownie> it has something to do with the basic i/o of the OS, but thats all i know
[02:06] <HappyFool> brownie: the lowest level of the OS. it manages the computer's resources (hardware) for higher levels of the system
[02:06] <scumbo> linforcer, I think you'd need to grab the source package to see the compile flags.  Some progs (e.g. vim) tell you their flags with a --version flag, but it's not standard.
[02:06] <brownie> happyfool: so why do things keep telling me to do stuff i need to recompile my own?
[02:06] <Cashel> a kernel is the engine that runs the OS ... like back in the old msdos days command.com and io.sys / msdos.sys
[02:06] <HappyFool> brownie: things like ?
[02:07] <brownie> firewire ethernet
[02:07] <Cashel> yeah, what HappyFool said..
[02:07] <reiki> hmmm... anyone installed smeg recently from backports? I get this: smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[02:07] <reiki> telling me it's a broken package
[02:07] <apokryphos> !smeg
[02:07] <ubotu> [smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:07] <HappyFool> brownie: hmm. in linux usually one can add support for extra hardware by loading modules, but i don't know about firewire ethernet
[02:07] <apokryphos> hm, I thought the backports one had a problem
[02:07] <brownie> reiki: give up
[02:07] <brownie> reiki: i got the same error, and if you ever get smeg to work correctly , i will be very surprised.
[02:08] <brownie> reiki: i *eventually* managed to get it installed, but could no create new menus or icons
[02:08] <HappyFool> brownie: you can recompile the kernel, but it's not recommended for new users. read this wiki page:
[02:08] <reiki> brownie: that's weird because I used it on my first ubuntu install
[02:08] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[02:08] <ubotu> [kernelhowto]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[02:09] <brownie> happyfool: i do not beleive in any way i have the expertise to do it... but i jsut wanted to learn about it
[02:09] <dbzdeath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-ac6c54092f78610507acbb69242c51551d689ff3 <--- anyone know the package name that archive manager mentioned there goes by? since i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed
[02:09] <brownie> reiki: yes, well i have spent hours in here trying to fix the problem, and if you get it fixed, PLEASE email me at "brownie17@gmail.com" once again thats "brownie17@gmail.com"
[02:09] <HappyFool> brownie: it's not *that* hard, and it will certainly be educational. one can keep the stock ubuntu kernels around in case things go wrong
[02:10] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: file-roller, at a guess
[02:10] <HappyFool> !info file-roller
[02:10] <ubotu> file-roller: (an archive manager for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 661 kB, Installed size: 4352 kB
[02:10] <fish7678> hello I'm running a amd 64 bit system with an ati radion 9250 and I'm having intermittent crash/freez problems. can ne one help me
[02:10] <fish7678> ?
[02:10] <dbzdeath> nuts unrar wasn't working for some reason... but i got unrar-nonfree and that works..
[02:11] <shinu> HappyFool: where do the files i send from my phone to the comp get saved?
[02:11] <HappyFool> shinu: um
[02:11] <HappyFool> i think they end up in your home directory
[02:11] <HappyFool> shinu: e.g., /home/shinu
[02:11] <Cashel> fish7678, wheres it crashing?
[02:12] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: cheers.. that appears to be it
[02:12] <brownie> happyfool: i think if i could print that out and spent a day or two just fiddling and going through it, i could do it, but i do not want to risk what i have just spent three weeks getting to work
[02:12] <qt2> err, might someone help my firend fish7678, he's having so many problems getting his amd64 system stable it's not even funny.
[02:12] <dbzdeath> qt2: what is going on exactly?
[02:12] <qt2> err, it jsut randomly freezes when using various gnome programs
[02:12] <shinu> HappyFool: seems like i didnt get that file then ;.;
[02:13] <dbzdeath> qt2: the gnome programs freeze? or the entire computer?
[02:13] <brenner> dbzdeath: non  free unrar can handle certain rar archives normal unrar can't iir.
[02:13] <fish7678> and the monitor goes out of its frequency range from time to time...
[02:13] <HappyFool> qt2, fish7678: maybe use the non-accelerated nvidia drivers?
[02:13] <shinu> HappyFool: my phone timed out :P its going fine now...
[02:13] <dbzdeath> brenner: ahhh
[02:13] <qt2> dbzdeath, the entire computer hard locks.
[02:13] <qt2> HappyFool, he's using an ati card.
[02:13] <dbzdeath> qt2: hmmm... just a default install?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> AHHH
[02:13] <HappyFool> err
[02:13] <dbzdeath> ati = bad
[02:13] <dbzdeath> haha
[02:13] <fish7678> hep
[02:13] <fish7678> lol
[02:13] <apokryphos> qt2: is this a fresh install?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> i'd look there probably
[02:14] <brenner> dbzdeath: quote from the unrar package descr.: "Can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format."
[02:14] <qt2> dbzdeath, heh, yeah, i know that, told him that too, he insisted on it anyway ;)
[02:14] <qt2> apokryphos, that it is.
[02:14] <apokryphos> there's no reason why it should lock up
[02:14] <dbzdeath> qt2: sorry but i can't be of much help if its the ati card... i've only ever used nvidia cards
[02:14] <qt2> and yet it does. ;)
[02:14] <apokryphos> regardless of whether you're using an ATI card. ATI provides lame support for Linux, but that mostly means you won't get cool affects with X
[02:15] <brownie> there is nothing wrong with ATI cards, they are a perfect replacemtn for an nivdia, at reasonable prices, and fairly stable if not overclocked
[02:15] <dbzdeath> apokryphos: yeah well i've still heard of it doing dodgy things
[02:15] <apokryphos> if everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems
[02:15] <Cashel> qt2, fish7678, did you comment the Section "DRI" and Load "glx" portions of the xorg.conf when you installed the xfglrx drivers?
[02:15] <dbzdeath> on a nix system
[02:15] <dbzdeath> [20:15]  <apokryphos> if everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems<-- it might be just X ... they may not know the difference?
[02:16] <brownie> i have been using the ATI card for three years, a 32 radeon VE and i can still play most modern games
[02:16] <Cashel> the problem with ATI cards (the reason everyone hates them) are the drivers, not the cards themselves
[02:16] <dbzdeath> yeah the drivers are bad...
[02:16] <dbzdeath> in both systems really ... although linux is worse
[02:16] <brownie> cashel: i've never had a problem with the drivers, what do you mean?
[02:16] <dbzdeath> *in both windows and linux
[02:16] <apokryphos> brownie: on WIndows it's generally good
[02:17] <apokryphos> but the Linux support/drivers are terrible. ATI simply don't care for unix
[02:17] <dalamar> lack of open source with ati drivers is the bad thing
[02:17] <brownie> apokryphos: i havent been using it for very long on linux
[02:17] <dbzdeath> lol my mate has to use a lower agp due to his ati card
[02:17] <dbzdeath> agp speed
[02:17] <brownie> dalamar:
[02:17] <dbzdeath> due to incompatibility with his motherboard or something
[02:17] <brownie> dbzdeath: get PCI express :)
[02:17] <apokryphos> qt2: does he have the appropriate kernel for his 64-bit?
[02:17] <Cashel> brownie, AGP support is crappy, 3d excel in X is only recently workable and still a bit heavy on memory...
[02:17] <brownie> SLI!!!!
[02:17] <dbzdeath> brownie: i'm not having the problem :P
[02:18] <Cashel> theres a work around for the radeon agp 4x issue under winblows..
[02:18] <qt2> Cashel, cant keep it going long enough to install fglrx.
[02:18] <brownie> "3D excel in X"? argh, jargon attack! i dont understand
[02:18] <brownie> dbzdeath: :)
[02:18] <qt2> apokryphos, he downloaded the amd64 version of ubuntu, so i'd assume so.
[02:18] <dbzdeath> qt2: hmm... all default? server install?
[02:18] <dalamar> 3d acceleration in X windows... basically why anyone has a high end graphics card
[02:18] <Cashel> qt2, what apokryphos just said... sounds like kernel issues...
[02:19] <brownie> cashel: with ya
[02:19] <qt2> dbzdeath, yeah, i guess, he essentially just hit enter and filled in the ntwork and resolution info.
[02:19] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:19] <brownie> cashel: i think it was the excel that put me out
[02:19] <Cashel> dalamar :)
[02:19] <dbzdeath> qt2: when it freezes does ctrl + alt + backspace do anything?
[02:19] <dalamar> heh
[02:19] <Cashel> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html&ei=I-UaQ4qQLrC6YLDjoaQL
[02:19] <dbzdeath> ie. are you ABSOLUTELY sure the entire system freezes and not just X
[02:20] <qt2> apokryphos, Cashel, i'd assume that the amd64 versionof ubuntu  would have the correct kernel.
[02:20] <styles`> im suprised how fast ubuntu responds on my system
[02:20] <apokryphos> qt2: correct
[02:20] <qt2> dbzdeath, no response, the sysrq method does nothing either.
[02:20] <dbzdeath> qt2: what mobo chipset? nvidia or via or?
[02:20] <styles`> i would think it runs at the same speed my gentoo was running
[02:20] <qt2> dbzdeath, nvidia nforce 4
[02:20] <styles`> without all the damn compiling which now i think was a waste of time
[02:20] <brownie17> ARGH!!! note to self - do not press every key combination people say to you, just becasue they say it.. last time you logged off
[02:21] <dbzdeath> mmm nforce
[02:21] <dbzdeath> heard of them having some incompatibility issues
[02:21] <dbzdeath> brownie17: lol!! i think i did that first time i found out about ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:21] <dbzdeath> sorry
[02:21] <brownie17> dbzdeath: haha not your fault, my inquisite nature
[02:22] <dbzdeath> curiosity killed the cat
[02:22] <brownie17> dbzdeath: i was expecting it to be like control alt delete
[02:22] <dbzdeath> or... X :P
[02:22] <brownie17> dbzdeath: so is there a control + alt + del type replacement thing?
[02:22] <scumbo> qt2, have you tried the system without running X?  Maybe this problem isn't the gfx card.
[02:22] <Cashel> qt2, maybe try noapci according to one of those in that link I sent you...
[02:22] <dbzdeath> brownie17: depends on the window manager...
[02:23] <brownie17> im using gnome if that's what your asking
[02:23] <dbzdeath> Cashel: that link brings you to various posts?
[02:23] <dbzdeath> brownie17: i've used gnome for .... 15 mins at most i hate the thing
[02:23] <dbzdeath> so i have no idea about knome
[02:23] <dbzdeath> *gnome
[02:23] <dbzdeath> i prefer xfce :)
[02:23] <Cashel> yes
[02:23] <Cashel> various posts..
[02:24] <dalamar> ive seen links about setting ctrl+alt+del to run system monitor, which is basically what it does in windows
[02:24] <Cashel> but then I'm a weirdo
[02:24] <brownie17> dbzdeath: really? is KDE really any better!? i remember in FEDORA you cna choose either, but i don't remember there being any realy big differnece, although i only used fedora for 15 mins max when i discovered there was no drivers for my dial up modem
[02:24] <dbzdeath> brownie17: i prefer kde to gnome.. but kde is a bit too bulky for me
[02:24] <fish7678> ubuntu froze agin...
[02:24] <dbzdeath> i find icewm and fluxbox a little bare
[02:24] <qt2> scumbo, as gar as i could tell, it worked fine in console mode.
[02:24] <dbzdeath> and xfce is sorta in the middle
[02:24] <styles`> ubuntu doesnt have anything to check what services are started up at boot time?
[02:24] <dbzdeath> so thats why i like xfce :)
[02:25] <brownie17> dbzdeath: what is xfce? i have not really ever heard much about it
[02:25] <qt2> Cashel, whats the difference between noapci and noacpi?
[02:25] <Cashel> fish7678, I'd try reading some of these: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html
[02:25] <brownie17> !tell brownie about xfce
[02:25] <dalamar> styles`, install BUM
[02:25] <styles`> kde is evil =P
[02:25] <dbzdeath> brownie17: xfce.org .. check out the screenies
[02:25] <Cashel> qt2, ones a typo, the other isnt, lol
[02:25] <styles`> is it compatible with gtk gnome?
[02:25] <qt2> acpi is the non-typo. :P
[02:25] <dbzdeath> styles`: yeah kde is a pain.. specially being on gentoo and waiting for it to compile ... all that crap
[02:25] <styles`> ur on gentoo?
[02:25] <brownie17> dbzdeath: is it easy to just switch between gnome and one of the others with just a restart? or is there mass work to switch?
[02:26] <qt2> Cashel,  and i already tried having acpi disabled, no effect
[02:26] <Orby> ummm where would one find ATI X300 drivers for ubuntu ? ati dont seem to be of much help
[02:26] <styles`> my gentoo started to slow down for some reason so i just said hell with it and installed a rpm based distro
[02:26] <dbzdeath> brownie17: should be as easy as apt-get install xfce4 and then rebooting and in gdm(i assume your using) choose xfce as the session? i think
[02:26] <qt2> occasionally, instead of locking up, his monitor frequency goes out of range.
[02:26] <HappyFool> Orby: try the wiki instructions for ati
[02:26] <HappyFool> !tell Orby about ati
[02:26] <dbzdeath> removing gnome... there is a thread on the forums somewhere to do it
[02:26] <qt2> which he also cant recover from.
[02:26] <Orby> HappyFool: thanks :D
[02:26] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about ati
[02:27] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:27] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: try this ;) http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ (ubotu web-interface)
[02:27] <brownie17> dbzdeath: maybe before i try another desktop enviroment i should actually become a "not complete rookie" at linux in general
[02:27] <styles`> emerge gnome
[02:27] <styles`> lol
[02:27] <styles`> ud be there for like 2 days
[02:27] <pho> knows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?
[02:28] <dbzdeath> brownie17: hehe well thats probably wise... unless you got kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[02:28] <brownie17> pho: you using a d-link?
[02:28] <styles`> does apt-get have a search function
[02:28] <HappyFool> styles`: use 'apt-cache search'
[02:28] <dbzdeath> styles`: apt-cache search package
[02:28] <dbzdeath> beat me to it
[02:28] <dbzdeath> haha
[02:28] <pho> brownie17: hmm... d-link ... router?
[02:28] <HappyFool> styles`: synaptic has a fairly useful search/browse feature
[02:28] <styles`> thanks
[02:28] <brownie17> so kubuntu is like a whole new cd? with KDE? but you can just apt-get XFCE? why is that?
[02:28] <styles`> HappyFool, im a command freak =P
[02:28] <styles`> coming from gentoo
[02:29] <apokryphos> brownie17: because there is no proper xfce team
[02:29] <brownie17> pho: d-link is a brand of modem's and router
[02:29] <HappyFool> brownie17: you can 'apt-get kubuntu-desktop' too. There's a limit to what can be fitted on one CD
[02:29] <qt2> i just noticed, his radeon isnt listed as supported on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[02:29] <dbzdeath> brownie17: well you can do apt-get kubuntu-desktop ? or is it kubuntu and it will install kubuntu
[02:29] <apokryphos> HappyFool: I think he's asking why there isn't a separate ubuntu+xfce cd
[02:29] <pho> brownie17: yes... i know... it is a siemens i think....
[02:29] <qt2> might that be a problem?
[02:29] <apokryphos> dbzdeath: you can get kubuntu ISOs and you can of course install kde from ubuntu
[02:29] <brownie17> pho: sorry, your better off asking someone else
[02:30] <coxc24> Can anyone help me with a ddclient problem?
[02:30] <dbzdeath> apokryphos: i know :) it was brownie17's question i was answering
[02:30] <brownie17> apokryphos: i only have 256, how big would KDE be to download? just through apt-get?
[02:30] <pho> brownie17: ok... thx....
[02:30] <apokryphos> brownie17: find out for yourself. Do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <brownie17> qt2: yes, i think so!
[02:30] <apokryphos> brownie17: it'll tell you how much it plans to get, and you can choose to cancel before that.
[02:31] <brownie17> apokryphos
[02:31] <dbzdeath> would be nice to run ubuntu instead
[02:31] <qt2> brownie17, eh?
[02:31] <Alex_BO> HI! i've a problem compiling a program: "C compiler cannot create executables".what program do i need?
[02:31] <apokryphos> brownie17: hm?
[02:31] <brownie17> it needs to download 114 meg
[02:31] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: apt-get install build-essentials
[02:32] <HappyFool> build-essential  (no s ;)
[02:32] <snoogert> hi, when i try to compile grub under amd64, i've got this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables".... can you help me?
[02:32] <apokryphos> dbzdeath: build-essential :)
[02:32] <dbzdeath> my bad
[02:32] <HappyFool> snoogert: you also need build-essential
[02:32] <Cashel> anyone familiar w/ glade? Wondering what the diff between glade-2 and glade-gnome-2 is.... one replaces the other...
[02:32] <HappyFool> it's on the cd, so it should easily be installable
[02:32] <dbzdeath> why not just apt-get install grub?
[02:32] <brownie17> gtg guys
[02:33] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, it doesn't work however
[02:33] <styles`> wonder why cant i find xfce
[02:33] <HappyFool> styles`: you probably need to add repositories
[02:33] <pho> knows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?
[02:33] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: apt-get install build-essential no s on the end
[02:33] <coxc24> Have you tried gcc for a compiler, it was recommened to me
[02:33] <dalamar> got the corect repos installed?
[02:33] <dbzdeath> yeah or that
[02:33] <HappyFool> !tell styles` about repositories
[02:34] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, sorry: i have installed build-essential without the "s"
[02:34] <styles`> thanks
[02:34] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've installed build-essential... but it's the same...
[02:34] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: ok and it still gives the same errror?
[02:34] <dbzdeath> *error
[02:34] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, yes
[02:34] <mushtaq> hi is there are software to grab a moving cursor i mean to convert mouse movement to flash or something else
[02:34] <mushtaq> ?
[02:34] <HappyFool> snoogert: can you paste the complete error log on the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:35] <dalamar> styles`, did you find BUM? really good for managing services
[02:35] <dbzdeath> hmmm Alex_BO type cc in a terminal and tell me what it says please
[02:35] <Alex_BO> cc: no input files
[02:35] <dbzdeath> yeah thats ok
[02:35] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO:  hmmthis is what program?
[02:36] <dbzdeath> *hmm this
[02:36] <styles`> dalamar, not yet, i didnt see it, i guess i will after adding the other repos
[02:36] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, wine, i'm tring to compile it
[02:36] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: is this a amd64 system?
[02:36] <dalamar> styles`, yeah should be in there, nice gui etc
[02:37] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, my system is amd64, but there isn't a package for my system
[02:37] <snoogert> HappyFool: do you need all the content of config.log?
[02:37] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: ahhh :) thats because wine won't work on amd64
[02:37] <HappyFool> snoogert: well, maybe just the relevant bits
[02:37] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, and how can i do?
[02:37] <Cashel> !tell cashel about gnuchess
[02:37] <HappyFool> snoogert: you have any guesses about what's wrong?
[02:38] <iveqy> hello, I wonder how to change charset to iso-8859-10 in console mode...
[02:38] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: if you can get a wine 32bit binary that might work or you will need a 32bit chroot(basically another mini ubuntu system inside your current one)
[02:38] <HappyFool> Cashel: try '/query ubotu' and then 'info gnuchess'
[02:38] <Cashel> hmmm anyone know a nice front end for gnuchess?
[02:38] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, well...i don't wanna install another ubuntu inside the mine
[02:39] <HappyFool> Cashel: maybe xboard?
[02:39] <ompaul> iveqy,  terminal set - character encoding - your character set
[02:39] <Cashel> xboard! thanks ...couldnt remember that much even, heh
[02:39] <iveqy> ompaul thx, but I don't have the iso-8859-10 on my system, do you know witch package to download?
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: if you have the drive space it isn't a big deal... but in that case your best bet is to find a 32 bit binary of wine somewhere... a slackware package perhaps?
[02:40] <ompaul> Alex_BO, if you do not do that, you will not be able to get applications that only exist as 32 bit at this time to run on your machine
[02:40] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, because i figured out that there aren't programs like DVDShrink in Linux
[02:40] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, i've do it
[02:40] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: yeah.. well if you have cedega... that should work
[02:40] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, and i read that the only way it's to emule them
[02:40] <reiki> I have downloaded what appear to be gnome themes. The one I am interested in is called Gnant. However I can't seem to find where Gnome is storing themes so I can put this directory there. Anyone have a clue for me? :)
[02:41] <dbzdeath> yup basically Alex_BO
[02:41] <dbzdeath> !tell Alex_BO about 32bit chroot
[02:41] <dbzdeath> might wanna look at that
[02:41] <dbzdeath> it isn't too hard
[02:41] <LaserLine> Hello people, I have a question please...
[02:41] <iveqy> ompaul "set character encoding iso-8859-10" doesn't work. "invalid option"
[02:41] <HappyFool> snoogert: stand-by
[02:41] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: go ahead
[02:42] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, I've already read it
[02:42] <dalamar> I hope amd64 us better supported in the future for ubuntu, seems kind of shaky at the moment .. one of the reasons I didn't buy one when I upgraded recently
[02:42] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok
[02:42] <ompaul> iveqy, the acutal package  may be seen in  apt-cache search font  | grep iso
[02:42] <HappyFool> snoogert: hmm
[02:42] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, don't you know a program like DVD Shrink?
[02:42] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol - In gnome Session Manager -> Startup Programs --- what does the "order" column mean ?
[02:42] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: hmm well i can't be of much help ... if the ubuntu forums don't have a answer for you ... you can give the gentoo forums a shot .. i find lots of distro inspecific info there
[02:42] <Cashel> LaserLine, so ask :)
[02:42] <iveqy> ompaul np..
[02:42] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: not one that runs on linux... no
[02:43] <LaserLine> Cashel - I asked .. :)
[02:43] <HappyFool> i think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc
[02:43] <lsuactiafner> what /dev/ are there but sd and hd? i want to mount an ATA disk
[02:43] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, i have a win2k on virtual machine.i can run DVDShrink here
[02:43] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, do you think that's possible?
[02:43] <Cashel> I guess I'm lagging :)
[02:43] <HappyFool> snoogert: (oops) i think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc
[02:44] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: I think it is the order of the programs to start
[02:44] <snoogert> HappyFool: do you know what are this libs?
[02:44] <dalamar> LaserLine, should be what order the programs are run in, some programs need others running before they are started etc
[02:44] <HappyFool> does anyone know what to install to get 32-bit gcc compatibility libs for amd64?
[02:44] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol - so the lower the number, the faster it get's loaded ?
[02:44] <Cashel> lsuactiafner, ATA is hd I believe..
[02:45] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: hmmm yes but i wouldn't recommend attempting to burn the iso in a vm... i have no idea if vmware can do that
[02:45] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've already lib32gcc1 installed...
[02:45] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmmm don't you just use -m32?
[02:45] <dalamar> dvd shrink rips dvds doesnt it?
[02:46] <dbzdeath> dalamar: yeah it also can re-encode them so they can be made small enough... say dvd9 to dvd5
[02:46] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, i know that dvdshrink can make iso or only VOB and AUDIO files.i can get them to linux and burn them in linux.what do you think about?
[02:46] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: sounds like a plan :)
[02:46] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1895
[02:46] <dalamar> dbzdeath, aha
[02:46] <dbzdeath> imo output to iso
[02:46] <dbzdeath> its easier
[02:46] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: if a program got lower number then another it it going to be run before yes
[02:46] <HappyFool> snoogert: it *might* be lib32gcc1
[02:47] <ofer0> somebody here with a 64bit processor?
[02:47] <HappyFool> snoogert: but i'm not sure
[02:47] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol Thanks LD
[02:47] <LaserLine> LD= :D
[02:47] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: install ia32-libs i dunno if it will solve it... but its a good thing to have installed
[02:47] <lsuactiafner> ofer0 : yeh?
[02:47] <snoogert> HappyFool: yes. i've already lib32gcc1... but i doesn't work...
[02:47] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: this is the problem i was having earlier unfortunately
[02:47] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, well...that seems the only way... can i ask you a question?i'd like to make some backups; someone here had adviced me to mondo, but there isn't for amd64.can you advice me something else?
[02:48] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: not for me, for snoogert
[02:48] <Cashel> no bells and whistles to be sure, but no problems! soooo cool... (Can you tell I switched from suse? :P )
[02:48] <dbzdeath> i was trying to compile p7zip ... then i realised it tried to compile as a 32bit app and i just changed it to 64bit and viola
[02:48] <HappyFool> snoogert: sorry, it's hard for me to debug -- i don't have amd64 here
[02:48] <ofer0> lsuactiafner, please give me output of: "ls -al `which ls`"
[02:48] <dalamar> Cashel, i've noticed its kind of 'touchy' fot me though, doesn't like you doing other things while its running/downloading ;)
[02:48] <slibs> hi, can anyone remember what was the command i have to add in hl2 launch options in order to make it work?
[02:49] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: i don't know about backups... but looking into webmin *may* be of some help
[02:49] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, don't worry... thanks....
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 90464 2005-03-18 15:23 /bin/ls
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> 851458de9e597defc95b0c7e66a85438  /bin/ls
[02:49] <ofer0> thank you very much!!
[02:49] <ofer0> :)
[02:49] <dbzdeath> snoogert: what program are you trying to compile?
[02:49] <Cashel> dalamar, I've been serfing the web fine while it does.... I've canceled / restarted its downloads to change whats on its list too.... it didnt mind.... tho I dont have high speed internet, that may change things...
[02:50] <dalamar> Cashel, I dont have a real fast computer so that might be my issue as well
[02:51] <reiki> how do I start file roller from terminal as sudo? sudo file-roller?
[02:51] <dbzdeath> yeah reiki
[02:51] <reiki> or would it be gksudo?
[02:51] <dbzdeath> hmmm
[02:51] <dbzdeath> gksudo to be safe
[02:52] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i try to compile grub
[02:52] <dbzdeath> snoogert: ... hmm... why do you want a 32bit grub?
[02:52] <snoogert> dbzdeath: no, i don't want a 32bit grub...
[02:53] <dbzdeath> snoogert: open up the makefile
[02:53] <dbzdeath> it should have -m32 somewhere?
[02:53] <snoogert> dbzdeath: just a moment...
[02:53] <HappyFool> the config.log shows -m32
[02:53] <darksatanic> Last time I heard anything about it, grub didn't build as a 64-bit binary.
[02:54] <dbzdeath> yeah HappyFool that shouldn't be happening
[02:54] <HappyFool> maybe it needs to be 32 bit (?). i've never compiled grub
[02:54] <darksatanic> AFAIK, it has to be built as 32-bit.
[02:55] <lsuactiafner> if you use -m32 in glibc of ubuntu it doesnt work as it should, you need gcc4
[02:55] <HappyFool> i suppose the other question would be why can't you use the grub from the install cd ?
[02:55] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've checked the "Makefile.in" but non m32....
[02:55] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: ah-ha
[02:55] <dbzdeath> oh?
[02:56] <dazvid> Does anyone here run a creative audigy 2 card?
[02:56] <dbzdeath> snoogert: is there a reason why you can't use the ubuntu package?
[02:56] <pho> anyone knows howto make the internet connection run properly? its really not nice to have to reset the router after each reboot...
[02:56] <dbzdeath> pho: what do you mean exactly?
[02:57] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've modified it, so i want recompile it...
[02:57] <dbzdeath> oh
[02:57] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:57] <pho> dbzdeath: when i have rebooted ubuntu... my browser cant load webpages... but updating the system over the ubuntu servers is working....
[02:58] <pho> dbzdeath: messengers and irc clients dont have connection to the internet either....
[02:58] <lsuactiafner> pho : your browser might be trying to use a proxy that doesnt exist
[02:58] <thenuke> lsuactiafner: irc-clients.. messenger..
[02:58] <pho> dbzdeath: then i have to disconnect the connection by the router and reconnect....
[02:58] <HappyFool> snoogert: tried installing gcc-4.0 ?
[02:58] <HappyFool> snoogert: then 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure'
[02:58] <dbzdeath> pho: hmm can you ping web servers? like say google.com?
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: after a while it runs...
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> dhcp problems?
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> i dont know..
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> bbl working..
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: mostly not...
[02:59] <dbzdeath> sounds like dhcp
[02:59] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've found the -m32 flag in configure.ac. can this help?
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: managed it once ... but he only could ping google.... =)
[02:59] <Tonar> Can i boot Ubuntu without the initial ramdisk?
[03:00] <dbzdeath> snoogert: hmm.... well i'm not sure if its a good idea to use it as a 64bit binary... but you can give it a shot
[03:00] <dbzdeath> Tonar: yes if you have the basic needed hardware compiled into the kernel
[03:00] <snoogert> HappyFool: but wirg gcc4 i'll got a pre 64bit executable?
[03:00] <pho> dbzdeath: there must be a solution... i read a lot about similar problems...
[03:01] <HappyFool> snoogert: according to lsuactiafner, -m32 needs gcc-4.0
[03:01] <ec18672> i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...
[03:01] <dbzdeath> pho: hmm what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[03:01] <HappyFool> snoogert: which is in agreement with the package description
[03:01] <dbzdeath> is it correct?
[03:01] <snoogert> dbzdeath: bur the original grub bin files are 32bit under amd64?
[03:01] <beekay> how can i play m4a files in music player?
[03:01] <pho> dbzdeath: nameserver 192.168.2.1
[03:01] <dbzdeath> snoogert: are they?
[03:01] <pho> dbzdeath: thats the ip of the router
[03:02] <dbzdeath> pho: is that the address of your router? if so try changing that to your isp's dns server or any dns server really
[03:02] <dbzdeath> yeah
[03:02] <ec18672> i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...
[03:02] <HappyFool> maybe the amd64 is in 32-bit mode on power-on (?)
[03:02] <dbzdeath> although you will need to turn off dhcp if it is on
[03:02] <beekay> how can i play m4a files in music player? or anything for that matter
[03:02] <snoogert> dbzdeath: the original grub files under amd64 are 32bit binaries?
[03:02] <dbzdeath> otherwise it won't survive a reboot without getting the settings from your router
[03:02] <beekay> mp4 etc
[03:03] <dbzdeath> snoogert: i don't know but if they are... then don't compile grub as 64bit
[03:03] <thrush_2> ec18672, wouldnt it be more fun to write it yourself?
[03:03] <HappyFool> !tell beekay about restricted
[03:03] <HappyFool> beekay: that'll get you started, at least; not sure if it supports all of those
[03:03] <pho> dbzdeath: where do i get to know my isp's dns server?
[03:03] <beekay> okay
[03:03] <beekay> thanks man
[03:03] <dbzdeath> pho: web page? perhaps it is in your router's config?
[03:04] <Tonar> why has the mplayer package no dvd support compiled in?
[03:04] <snoogert> dbzdeath: ok, i'll try to compile with gcc4 as says HappyFool
[03:04] <HappyFool> Tonar: legal reasons
[03:04] <dbzdeath> snoogert: yeah give that a shot .. i have no idea about gcc 4
[03:04] <HappyFool> Tonar: you can probably enable it following the restrictedformats wiki page instructions
[03:04] <ec18672> thrush, its my second intallation of ubuntu, at first inst'n i found a script.
[03:04] <HappyFool> !tell Tonar about restricted
[03:05] <HappyFool> snoogert: please let us know if it works
[03:05] <pho> dbzdeath: the routers says tehre is a primary and a secondary  DNS
[03:05] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: that bot is handy :)
[03:05] <HappyFool> the bot is super-cool. a bit cheeky sometimes, tho.
[03:05] <ec18672> thrush, do you know sth like that ?
[03:05] <dbzdeath> pho: yeah and those ip's you should place into /etc/resolv.conf like this nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx
[03:05] <dbzdeath> erm i missed the last octet
[03:06] <Tonar> but mplayer is able to read dvd without these libdvdcss libary.
[03:06] <pho> dbzdeath: both?
[03:06] <dbzdeath> Tonar: libdvdcss afaik is for dvd navigation support?
[03:06] <dbzdeath> pho: yes both on seperate lines though... so two nameserver entries
[03:06] <pho> dbzdeath: ok...
[03:06] <dbzdeath> but do that AFTER you reboot or turn off dhcp
[03:07] <ec18672> thrush_2, do you know sth like that ?
[03:07] <thrush_2> ec18672, you might be talking about a ubuntuaddon.zip file?  You should be able to google it but I would suggest looking in Ubuntu wiki and trying to go through it yourself
[03:07] <dbzdeath> Tonar: menu support
[03:07] <pho> dbzdeath: gonna reboot now... =)
[03:07] <dbzdeath> pho: good luck
[03:07] <kamikazesponge> how do i make a user a member of a group?
[03:08] <dalamar> kamikazesponge, in gnome?
[03:08] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: usermod -G group1,group2 username
[03:08] <HappyFool> Tonar: only unencrypted dvds, i thought?
[03:08] <ec18672> google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.
[03:08] <dbzdeath> replace group1,group2 with the groups you want them in
[03:08] <Tonar> HappyFool: no not really
[03:08] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: so i was close.. i did usermod <user> -G group
[03:08] <kamikazesponge> thx
[03:08] <dbzdeath> yeah wrong way round
[03:08] <ec18672> trush_2,google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.
[03:08] <Tonar> HappyFool: a uncrippled compiled mplayer is able to play alot more than the mplayer ubuntu delivers
[03:08] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: keep in mind that it doesn't append the group
[03:08] <dbzdeath> it replaces it
[03:08] <HappyFool> Tonar: in that case it has a decss capability, which is presumably disabled in ubuntu for legal reasons
[03:09] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: oops >.<
[03:09] <Tonar> HappyFool: also wmv?
[03:09] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've installed gcc4, then CC=gcc-4.0, then ./configure... but nothing...
[03:09] <Bateau_> hey! i get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1896 when i try to update laptop-mode-tools in synaptic. and i get this error trying to do dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1897 . can anyone help me?
[03:09] <HappyFool> Tonar: you need w32codecs for wmv, afaik
[03:09] <HappyFool> snoogert: nothing as in it still breaks?
[03:09] <Tonar> HappyFool: ah thx
[03:09] <HappyFool> snoogert: same error?
[03:09] <coxc24> I am trying to install mono pod and get the error "checking for mono >= 1.1.6... Package mono was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:09] <coxc24> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `mono.pc'
[03:09] <coxc24> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[03:09] <coxc24> No package 'mono' found
[03:09] <coxc24> " when I use the /.configure command. Can anyone help me please?
[03:09] <thrush_2> ec18672, if its a specific script your looking for I probably cant help.  But they are very easy to write and a good thing to learn
[03:09] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: if you want the user to have sudo access make sure they are in the sudo group..
[03:10] <snoogert> HappyFool: yes same error...
[03:10] <HappyFool> snoogert: hrm
[03:10] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: that one was admin i believe, that's the group i wanted to add it to
[03:10] <dbzdeath> ah
[03:10] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: but can you list groups of a user too?
[03:10] <dbzdeath> um kamikazesponge you can do cat /etc/group | grep username
[03:11] <ec18672> trush_2,you r right, i am also tryin to learn, i wasted to much time, so i just want to install.
[03:11] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: thx
[03:12] <slibs> how do i make shorcut in menu for warcraft 3 an example? (runs trought cedega, so how should i set the command? /home/anacron/warcraft/cedega Frozen Throne.exe wont' work)
[03:12] <Cashel> ok im out.. good night folks...
[03:12] <thrush_2> ec18672, sorry not more help if you feel like doing it yourself everything should be at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <ec18672> trush_2,thanx
[03:13] <Tonar> My boot messages have alot of warnings errors etc? is this normal?
[03:13] <Bateau_> Help----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1898
[03:13] <slibs> Tonar: i don't get any errors
[03:14] <Tonar> i paste the on the pastepage
[03:14] <dalamar> anyone here use the free version of cedega? does it support much or is it better to get a subscription? I'm not looking to run any cutting-edge games
[03:15] <fblade1987> how can i run .bin files ? what chmod do i have to do?
[03:15] <slibs> dalamar: of course you can try free one first, then if it doesn't work for you, then get the "real one"
[03:15] <mushtaq> hi i am trying to compile vnc2swf when i do configure it stops with following error
[03:15] <mushtaq>  error: *** ming missing - please install first or check config.log
[03:16] <dalamar> slibs, do you know where yo find it? can you d/l off the transgaming website?
[03:16] <slibs> dalamar: the cvs?
[03:16] <mushtaq> when i check config.log it shows
[03:16] <Bateau_> Help please :( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1898
[03:16] <lJlolel> fblade1987, you need to use the -x flag, or a +1
[03:16] <HappyFool> fblade1987: try 'sh filename.bin' or 'chmod a+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin'
[03:17] <mushtaq> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lming
[03:17] <slibs> dalamar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega?highlight=%28cedega%29 <- all you need
[03:18] <ilba7r> !realplayer
[03:18] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <slibs> but anyway can someone help me with my question, how to make shortcut so that it runs games, like if i want to run warcraft with cedega, what's the "command" for running that?
[03:19] <HappyFool> Bateau_: does 'apt-get remove laptop-mode-tools' help ?
[03:20] <dalamar> Bateau_, is your nick from GITS?
[03:20] <Bateau_> dalamar: indeed it is :) except they changed it :P
[03:21] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, now i've compiled it...
[03:21] <lJlolel> slibs, dont know about cedega, but wine is, wine programname.exe
[03:21] <HappyFool> snoogert: how?
[03:21] <dalamar> Bateau_, that's cool, i loved the movie and stand-alone complex is pretty cool too heh ;)
[03:21] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"
[03:21] <Bateau_> dalamar: yupp :D i love it to :D
[03:22] <Tonar> My Errors/Warning: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1899
[03:22] <HappyFool> snoogert: 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure' should work (no ; anywhere), but OK
[03:22] <snoogert> HappyFool: thanks for support!
[03:22] <HappyFool> snoogert: np. good luck with your custom grub (eek!)
[03:22] <mushtaq> exit
[03:22] <snoogert> HappyFool: :-)
[03:23] <Bateau_> HappyFool: i did what you said. and now it is installing allot of stuff! o.0
[03:23] <snoogert> dbzdeath: now all work. thanks also to you!
[03:24] <dbzdeath> snoogert: gcc 4 works?
[03:24] <HappyFool> Bateau_: dist-upgrading to breezy?
[03:24] <snoogert> dbzdeath: yes. i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"
[03:25] <Bateau_> HappyFool: huh? im not doing that now... i only removed laptop-mode-tools
[03:25] <Bateau_> now its a total takeoff. its installing and setting up all bunch of things
[03:25] <dbzdeath> snoogert: guess i'll keep that in mind :)
[03:26] <Bateau_> ah, there it stopped
[03:26] <dbzdeath> shouldn't it be export CC=gcc-4.0;./configure
[03:26] <Bateau_> hmm, brb
[03:26] <HappyFool> Bateau_: hmm. it probably remembered what it was trying to do before, but i'm not helluva sure how apt works
[03:27] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i also :)
[03:27] <Tonar> mmh ok i will install mplayer to ~/. Has anybody an idea how to reconfigure the mplayer plugin to work with my homemade mplayer? Anyone an idea with my errors above?
[03:27] <Bateau_> HappyFool: well, ill try a reboot. se what happens :) if im not back... im doing a reinstall :P
[03:27] <HappyFool> heh
[03:28] <thrush_2> Bateau_, lastime i tried to remove laptop someting or other it wanted to remove gnome...
[03:29] <zblach> hi
[03:30] <zblach> i found a script, a while ago, that detects other partitions i have on my computer. since then i've had to reinstall. any idea where i can find this script again?
[03:30] <mcphail> zblach: try fdisk
[03:30] <HappyFool> !windowsdrives
[03:30] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:31] <zblach> thanks fool
[03:31] <HappyFool> if that bot asks me if i'm on ritalin one more time, i'm going to blow a fuse
[03:31] <slibs> zblach: it's called winmac_fstab right?, google that
[03:32] <slibs> oh too late :<
[03:33] <zblach> slibs, thanks anyways
[03:33] <zblach> now, problem 2
[03:33] <zblach> i'm using an ATI graphics card, and it should be pretty fast, but it isn't
[03:33] <HappyFool> !ati
[03:33] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:33] <zblach> eheh...
[03:35] <sakamoto_> omg ... ubuntu is so great
[03:35] <sakamoto_> is someone fast used to it
[03:36] <supernix> Hi
[03:36] <sakamoto_> when he used only microshit for several years
[03:36] <sakamoto_> hi supernix
[03:36] <supernix> can someone help me with a printer problem ?
[03:36] <supernix> Hi
[03:36] <supernix> :D
[03:36] <sakamoto_> definately not me
[03:36] <supernix> I keep getting my text on the left side of the page cut off
[03:36] <sakamoto_> im still in the O_o period
[03:36] <supernix> :D
[03:36] <zblach> supernix, wrong driver perhaps?
[03:36] <sakamoto_> first time i booted ubuntu
[03:36] <sakamoto_> so great
[03:37] <zblach> sakamoto_, agreed. but i'm still in the 0_0;; phase
[03:37] <sakamoto_> dual boot with grub works perfect
[03:37] <supernix> nah I checked the driver to use before I ever plugged it in
[03:37] <sakamoto_> lol
[03:37] <supernix> Should I use customer margins zblach  ?
[03:38] <zblach> supernix, probably not. at work we have that problem 0.1% of the time anyways, correct drivers and all. it could be almost anything
[03:38] <zblach> alright! problem #3. autodetecting network printers
[03:39] <supernix> hmmm ok thanks for your help zblach definately appreciated
[03:39] <twoSharp> i get an error while installing cdemu on ubuntu hoary: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop." what does this?
[03:39] <zblach> supernix, sorry i couldn't help more
[03:39] <supernix> LOL I can't even get the ones connected to the PC to work 100% so I surely wont be much help
[03:40] <kanrinin> hey should I install the mozilla-firefox package or just firefox?  Are they the same?  Firefox won't start, so I'm reinstalling.
[03:41] <reiki> the mozilla-firefox package IS firefox
[03:41] <lJlolel> breezy firefox is still 1.0.6?
[03:41] <zblach> !printing
[03:41] <ubotu> zblach: Are you on ritalin?
[03:41] <zblach> !yes ^_^
[03:41] <ubotu> I don't know, zblach
[03:41] <zblach> !print
[03:41] <ubotu> zblach: No idea
[03:41] <MrBear> hi people
[03:41] <zblach> howdy
[03:42] <theeil> how do i make mutt read messages i get with fetchmail?
[03:42] <MrBear> how are ya all
[03:42] <zblach> you can't teach that old dog new tricks
[03:42] <kanrinin> thanks reiki...what about the gnome support package?
[03:42] <zblach> bear, we're okay
[03:42] <MrBear> new to linux a friend directed me here
[03:43] <zblach> same
[03:43] <reiki> kanrinin: I just did sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and it all worked
[03:43] <MrBear> getting 5.04 right now
[03:44] <HappyFool> theeil: i think it's more a question of setting up fetchmail than setting up mutt
[03:44] <reiki> kanrinin: And I'm in a pretty much default Ubuntu 5.04 install. So ... should be pretty easy :)
[03:44] <Gnonthgol> MrBear: welcome to the world where evrything is possible
[03:44] <MrBear> thanks
[03:44] <kanrinin> gotcha.  I'm still getting used to the sudo apt-get stuff.  I'm a former fedora core user.
[03:44] <reiki> except getting your microphone to work! :)
[03:44] <kanrinin> *the entire room hisses* :-)
[03:45] <theeil> HappyFool: sure, i can't even find where fetchmail puts the messages
[03:45] <HappyFool> theeil: fetchmail should drop your mail in /var/spool/mail/<youruser>, and mutt should find it there
[03:45] <MrBear> I am a complete novice to linux
[03:45] <MrBear> my friend told me to get ubuntu
[03:45] <dalamar> i just got a cedega subscription, im pumped! wh00.
[03:45] <MrBear> what is cedega
[03:45] <HappyFool> theeil: are you familiar with mutt? you might find something like evolution a bit easier
[03:46] <theeil> HappyFool: no, i can use it just fine
[03:46] <reiki> MrBear: it's not HARD... it's just DIFFERENT if you're used to Windows operating systems. So dive in and don't be afraid to ask questions. Lots of folks here to help.
[03:46] <HappyFool> theeil: i'm using fetchmail here, though i set it up months ago
[03:46] <dalamar> MrBear, nifty program that lets you play windows games real well on linux
[03:46] <dalamar> *some* games I should say
[03:47] <theeil> HappyFool: fetchmail works, but the messages are not in mutt
[03:47] <HappyFool> theeil: is there anything in /var/spool/mail ?
[03:47] <theeil> HappyFool: my username is there but the file is empty
[03:47] <MrBear> what you need to pay a program to play games you already for sigh
[03:48] <MrBear> thanks reiki :)
[03:48] <MrBear> well I am sick of thw hole windows thing
[03:48] <theeil> HappyFool: i wonder if i set something that just looks at the messages
[03:48] <HappyFool> theeil: hmm. have you received any mail?
[03:48] <MrBear> only thing I will miss is my games
[03:48] <HappyFool> theeil: try using 'mail' to send yourself mail -- you should see the file become non-zero in size
[03:48] <theeil> HappyFool: i typed fetchmail and it showed some mail on it's way in
[03:49] <twoSharp> can anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..
[03:49] <arture> hi, i've just installed, and my serial mouse isn't working. Any ideas how to find the error? gpm has already been set up new, but i'm not sure if I've done it right.
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: hmm
[03:49] <theeil> HappyFool: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: ah-ha
[03:49] <MrBear> I just hope my hardware is supported
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: have you setup postfix?
[03:49] <theeil> HappyFool: no, do i need that, how do i do that?
[03:50] <MrBear> I have a razer diamondback and a zboard
[03:50] <HappyFool> theeil: i think there's quite a neat wiki page for this.. just a sec
[03:50] <Tonar> just setup postfix *lol*
[03:50] <Gnonthgol> MrBear: if the install/live cd works fine the hardware is suported
[03:50] <MrBear> my AIW should work fine right?
[03:51] <HappyFool> theeil: i based my setup on this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupEmailHowto
[03:51] <HappyFool> theeil: look at section 3 (on postfix)
[03:51] <dalamar> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:51] <lJlolel> yea, i moved to postfix
[03:51] <HappyFool> Tonar: better than 'just setup sendmail'
[03:52] <HappyFool> theeil: that page is a bit outdated, but should get you started
[03:54] <theeil> HappyFool: hmn, to be removed: ssmtp
[03:54] <MrBear> darn I wont be able to use my tv tuner
[03:54] <mxpxpod> is there a reason why in breezy I wouldn't have /dev/inotify?
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: what's that?
[03:55] <theeil> HappyFool: postfix was not installed
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: oh?
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: i thought it was installed by default. are you running hoary?
[03:55] <MrBear> so what is linux like anyway
[03:56] <theeil> HappyFool: yes
[03:56] <Kyral> Anything you want it to be
[03:56] <theeil> HappyFool: ssmtp must have uninstalled
[03:56] <MrBear> I feel like I am in the Matrix
[03:56] <Kyral> No thats Windows :P
[03:56] <MrBear> lol
[03:56] <arture> what should the sample rate for a mouse be?
[03:57] <HappyFool> theeil: postfix is a dependent of ubuntu-base, so it *should* have been installed
[03:57] <theeil> HappyFool:  SMTP Relay host: smtp.messagingengine.com, what's this server?
[03:57] <HappyFool> theeil: presumably your isp's smtp server
[03:57] <selinium> Hi all, anyone here used to compiling from source?
[03:57] <MrBear> yes 2 minutes done
[03:58] <zblach> is there any way to auto-detect network printers?
[03:58] <selinium> Mr Bear: was that aimed at me?
[03:58] <Kyral> selinium, I know it
[03:58] <SuperID> I want to run a script at startup.  Do I just need to add a shell script that runs in /etc/rc5.d ?   There's nothing magical about those scripts are there?  that is, do they have to interface with the caller?
[03:58] <HappyFool> bbiab
[03:58] <Kyral> ./configure && make && sudo make install :D
[03:59] <MrBear> oh I am downloading it now
[04:00] <MrBear> getting 339kb/s on cable which is good
[04:00] <selinium> Kyral: Yes I 'know' how to do it, just every package apart from the first one I did seems to be problematic. I tried to compile gdam from source. And it couldn't then the next on, then the next one. Is this common?
[04:00] <MrBear> another reason I am getting this is cause I got a copy of XP and it might go AWOL anytime soon
[04:01] <Kyral> selinium, welcome to dependacy hell :D
[04:01] <nariman> can someone help me update my gaim to the latest version????
[04:02] <nariman> hello???
[04:02] <nariman> is some one alive?
[04:02] <MrBear> I am
[04:02] <selinium> Kyral: lol, Even after completing all the deps, I still had errors... Also one package asked for a dependant not found on the repos, is that normal?
[04:02] <nariman> well, can u help me?
[04:02] <Kyral> IIRC, GAIM 1.5.0 is only in Breezy
[04:02] <MrBear> i think I am anyway
[04:02] <MrBear> no I am new like you
[04:02] <nariman> haha :)
[04:02] <Kyral> and it doesn't look like a Backport is going to come soon
[04:03] <Kyral> IIRC, jdong said something about the Backport being "difficult"
[04:03] <MrBear> I am glad I got some blank cds left
[04:03] <theeil> HappyFool: ok, local mail works now
[04:04] <Kyral> selinium, sometimes :D
[04:04] <MrBear> cool there is a Kubuntu
[04:05] <robert-in-au> i hade problems with it though i would just apt-get kde
[04:05] <robert-in-au> *had
[04:05] <MrBear> what is the dif between gnome and kde
[04:05] <Kyral> style, and a holy war
[04:05] <nariman> hehe :)
[04:05] <robert-in-au> ill find some screen-shots
[04:06] <nariman> yeah
[04:06] <Kyral> Basically, don't bring up KDE vs. GNOME here :P
[04:06] <nariman> long live KDE!!!
[04:06] <MrBear> I see
[04:06] <nariman> NO I MEAN GNOME!!!:D
[04:06] <apokryphos> MrBear: different DEs :)
[04:06] <pirast> Is bugzilla for feature request too?
[04:06] <Kyral> GNOME > ALL
[04:06] <apokryphos> MrBear: kde uses the Qt-toolkit and its base is C++; GNOME uses GTK
[04:06] <selinium> GNOME > kde
[04:07] <MrBear> kde looks like more like windows so I will use gnome
[04:07] <apokryphos> Alright now, let's not make useless comments of "which one is better".
[04:07] <selinium> MrBear: As good a reaqson as any!
[04:07] <apokryphos> MrBear: of course it depends on how you customize it
[04:07] <theeil> selinium: cuz there is no real point to either one
[04:07] <MrBear> I play WoW so just the name Gnome sounds good
[04:07] <selinium> lol
[04:08] <robert-in-au> kde : http://www.kde.org/screenshots/
[04:08] <cheesie> hi can someone help me, im downloading java for ubuntu linux, should i get the linux rpm or normal one?
[04:08] <apokryphos> !screenshots
[04:08] <ubotu> For Screenshots see http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2 and http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=3
[04:08] <apokryphos> there's ubuntu screenshots there of both
[04:08] <robert-in-au> gnome : http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/screenshots/
[04:08] <Kyral> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:08] <MrBear> after those screenshots Gnome it is
[04:08] <pirast> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:08] <selinium> what is a decent gnome menu app?
[04:08] <pirast> damn
[04:08] <Kyral> "menu app"?
[04:09] <apokryphos> MrBear: errr, you looked through them both already?
[04:09] <theeil> how about xfce4, fluxbox and the 100s of others
[04:09] <apokryphos> selinium: smeg
[04:09] <robert-in-au> for java there is a .deb repository find it at breakmyubuntu
[04:09] <MrBear> yes
[04:09] <candlelight> cheesie, search for java in ubuntu wiki, i just installed a jdk 1.5 update 4
[04:09] <apokryphos> yes, I doubt that somehow.
[04:09] <selinium> apokryphos: I assume that is an app not a curse! :)
[04:09] <robert-in-au> fluxbox is cool too
[04:09] <Kyral> Oh, before you ask, you CAN mix KDE and GNOME apps :P
[04:09] <MrBear> those require a brain which I dont have
[04:09] <icewt> what's the situation with backports? it hasn't been updated for a while, has it?
[04:10] <apokryphos> selinium: I don't know; people here speak of it like its God's gift to the Open Source world
[04:10] <selinium> apokryphos: lol I will check it out, thanks
[04:10] <apokryphos> Those GNOME screenshots are using different themes etc, not the defaults :/
[04:11] <apokryphos> selinium: pretty darn odd, considering, *it's just a menu editor*
[04:11] <dodder> Anyone mind helping me fixing the connection between php-apache2 to mysql on my ubuntu system. ?
[04:11] <twoSharp> can anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..
[04:12] <dodder> it just seems i need the mysql.so file... i just don't know where to get it, where to put it, or where to load it... i might be wrong..
[04:12] <selinium> apokryphos: I rarely use the menus myself, but the girlfriend on the other hand...
[04:12] <HappyFool> twoSharp: install linux-headers-386
[04:12] <dalamar> I installed the nvidia drivers according to the wiki and though I get the splashscreen and everything I only get 250 fps on average, I only have a 32 meg card but still this is wierd and trying to install cedega it says no 3d acceleration supported, anyone know whats up?
[04:12] <apokryphos> theeil: what, and use no non-gnome apps?
[04:13] <HappyFool> dalamar: does 'glxinfo |grep direct' give 'Yes' ?
[04:13] <theeil> apokryphos: no, i mean that i do use many of the built in things though
[04:13] <dodder> anyone?
[04:13] <dalamar> HappyFool, checking one sec
[04:13] <HappyFool> dodder: have you looked at the lamp page on the wiki?
[04:13] <candlelight> dalamar, just curious how to check the # of fps?
[04:13] <HappyFool> !lamp
[04:13] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:14] <dalamar> candlelight, run glxgears in a terminal
[04:14] <dalamar> HappyFool, it says 'yes'?
[04:14] <dodder> well can't i just use the programs already pre-installed with the basic installation ?
[04:15] <HappyFool> dalamar: hmm. sounds like you have opengl rendering to me
[04:16] <HappyFool> dalamar: i get 845 fps from glxgears (but i guess above a certain point that becomes meaningless?)
[04:16] <HappyFool> dodder: mysql is not included in the default install, i don't think
[04:16] <HappyFool> dodder: nor is apache2
[04:16] <dalamar> HappyFool, yeah, it says 'okay' on the cedega install anout open gl rendering, yet 'failed' on 3d acceleration? .. it is only a 32 meg card also
[04:16] <HappyFool> dalamar: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure. never used cedega
[04:17] <HappyFool> dalamar: tried #cedega ?
[04:17] <grill> hello everyone
[04:17] <dodder> HappyFool yes mysql and apache2 is included, and i it is installed.. i removed the ; from the php.ini file where im loading the mysql.so file... but that doesn't change anything...
[04:18] <dalamar> HappyFool, trying there as we speak, though its not very active ;/
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> hi guys ... seems like i got some gpg key errors for breezy when i do apt-get update
[04:18] <theeil> what's the gnome panel mail thing called?
[04:18] <HappyFool> dodder: please read the LAMP page on the wiki; it will probably help you more than i can
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> where can i find the keys ?
[04:18] <candlelight> dalamar, mine is 32mb card, on 1st run, 285~376 fps, 2nd run 210~375 fps, 3rd run all over 320 fps
[04:18] <dodder> HappyFool but that is what it says... to remove that line, and then just restart apache...
[04:18] <dodder> HappyFool, just tried that again... still nothing... :/
[04:19] <HappyFool> dodder: what isn't working?
[04:19] <MrBear> will I be able to use yahoo aim and msn on ubuntu
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> MrBear, one word ... GAIM!
[04:19] <dodder> HappyFool when trying to run phpmyadmin i just get this error: cannot load mysql extension;
[04:19] <Myrtti> wickedpuppy: bitlbee
[04:19] <MrBear> alright
[04:20] <HappyFool> dodder: phpmyadmin is a command-line tool?
[04:20] <Myrtti> no
[04:20] <Myrtti> browser
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> nope .. its a web based mysql administration
[04:20] <Myrtti> it's a webpage, basically
[04:20] <MrBear> right now I am afraid the install will not work
[04:20] <dodder> HappyFool, no it's not, it's a collection of php scripts, making it easy to edit your mysql tabels, and stuff :)
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> dodder, have you installed mysql extension for apache2 ?
[04:20] <sakamoto_> any drivers for my onboard vga
[04:20] <sakamoto_> ?
[04:21] <dodder> wickedpuppy, mom.
[04:21] <sakamoto_> its msi k8m-neov
[04:21] <dodder> wickedpuppy, i instaleld libapache2-mod-auth-mysql yep.
[04:22] <zblach> hi
[04:22] <sakamoto_> hi
[04:22] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:22] <zblach> can anyone help me with this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[04:22] <zblach> cheesie, just go !java
[04:23] <dodder> wickedpuppy, i've been looking for a php-mysql lib, but it's not default on the synaptic.
[04:23] <bina> xmms
[04:23] <bina> sorry :) wrong box
[04:23] <Gnonthgol> cheesie: "/msg ubotu java"
[04:24] <cheesie> its k that worked
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> dodder, you got libapache2-mod-php4 ?
[04:24] <MrBear> bbl
[04:25] <dodder> wickedpuppy, yep already been installed.
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> then your phpmyadmin should work
[04:25] <dodder> wickedpuppy, that what i said to myself, too :)
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:26] <dodder> heh
[04:26] <zblach> nvm, solved my error
[04:26] <dodder> wickedpuppy, may i pm you, with an url ?
[04:27] <Paradoxx> morning all
[04:27] <Paradoxx> can some1 help me with a prob
[04:28] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: only if you tell us what the problem is
[04:29] <sakamoto_> ok ... any linux drivers for my onboard vga
[04:29] <sakamoto_> ?
[04:29] <nano-> Ubuntu recognizes 'SAMSUNG ' 'DVD-ROM SD-616T ' as a CDROM while it infact is a CDRW.
[04:29] <sakamoto_> the mobi is MSI K8M Neo-V
[04:29] <sakamoto_> thats with VIA chipset
[04:30] <NoHope> hello all
[04:30] <sakamoto_> hi
[04:30] <Gnonthgol> hi
[04:30] <sakamoto_> omg ubuntu is way better than i thought
[04:31] <Aerol> hello
[04:31] <Paradoxx> what is the command to change the ownership for all the files in a folder, so i can read em etc?
[04:31] <sakamoto_> are all distros that nice to work with?
[04:31] <sakamoto_> you have to be root
[04:31] <twibbler> Paradox: chown <owner> <filename>
[04:31] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: chmod
[04:31] <DJWillis> Paradoxx: chmod
[04:32] <DJWillis> Doh! ;-)
[04:32] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: which folder are you wanting to fiddle with?
[04:32] <Paradoxx> there are several files in the folder
[04:32] <thrush_2> Paradoxx, chmod -R
[04:32] <Aerol> sby. pls, give me a list of working repos, or a sources.list, "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories", doesnt works anymore
[04:32] <Paradoxx> a folder i copied from a NTFS partition
[04:32] <HappyFool> to change ownership, use chown, to change permissions use chmod
[04:32] <twibbler> Paradox: chmod changes permissions ... chown changes owner and chgrp changes group ...
[04:32] <HappyFool> !teel Aerol about repos
[04:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, HappyFool
[04:32] <Paradoxx> whats the diff?
[04:32] <HappyFool> !tell Aerol about repos
[04:33] <twibbler> Paradoxx: a lot ......
[04:33] <NoHope> hey, how update an specific app?
[04:33] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: linux just got read drivers for ntfs
[04:33] <Aerol> great
[04:33] <HappyFool> 'just got' ? ;)
[04:33] <Paradoxx> Gnonthgol: i kno, i copied the files from a NTFS partition, to my ext3 partition, so i would work with em etc..
[04:33] <DJWillis> Question, where can I find a torrent for the latest packaged build of Breazey? Want to see if some packages have made it into Breazy there are absent/broke in horty.
[04:33] <twibbler> Paradoxx: what are you trying to access ...?...
[04:34] <Paradoxx> i copied my  "My Documents" folder from my W$ partition
[04:34] <Paradoxx> can't do anything with it though
[04:34] <HappyFool> NoHope: you can use synaptic to keep all installed applications up to date (within hoary)
[04:34] <twibbler> I see ... ok you want to access the files ...
[04:34] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: the best thing if you are using windows and linux together is to use fat32
[04:34] <NoHope> HappyFool, is it necessary some special configuration?
[04:34] <HappyFool> NoHope: you need to add the network repositories
[04:35] <HappyFool> !tell NoHope about repos
[04:35] <Paradoxx> right now, the owner of the folders is root
[04:35] <Paradoxx> so i want to b able to access them from my normal user
[04:36] <theeil> Paradoxx: sudo chown Paradoxx My*Documents
[04:36] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: something like 'sudo chown -R paradox thefolder/' may be what you want. But you should only change things in your home directory (/home/paradox, or whatever it may be)
[04:36] <cheesie> !sources
[04:36] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:36] <Paradoxx> yep
[04:36] <twibbler> Paradox:: login into terminal as root .... and do the following commands.. or as HappyFool says ...
[04:37] <twibbler> Paradoxx: after doing the chown also do the chgrp -R userid direc
[04:37] <grill> where can i find a list of web cams that work in ubuntu?
[04:39] <Paradoxx> kk
[04:39] <Paradoxx> thx guys, those things worked like a charm
[04:39] <Paradoxx> :D
[04:39] <NoHope> hey, do you know if firefox 1.5 beta will be available in some repos?
[04:39] <Paradoxx> i gotta go eat breakfast..
[04:39] <Paradoxx> talk to youall later
[04:39] <cheesie> Someone help me
[04:39] <cheesie> how do i edit the sources.list file
[04:40] <cheesie> sudo gedit?
[04:40] <twibbler> at 3.40pm.....
[04:40] <HappyFool> cheesie: maybe 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:40] <NoHope> cheesie, became root and [pico sources.list] 
[04:40] <cheesie> kk happy
[04:40] <NoHope> cheesie, or use vim, gvim, gedit...
[04:40] <Gnonthgol> cheesie: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <NoHope> s/became/become
[04:40] <cheesie> thanks ppl
[04:41] <NoHope> (my bad english...)
[04:41] <cheesie> how do i make it get it from network instead of the cd?
[04:41] <cheesie> comment out the top line?
[04:41] <twibbler> cheesie: can do all this from synaptic ...
[04:41] <cheesie> how
[04:42] <cheesie> !java
[04:42] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:42] <grill> cheesie, in settings i think it was
[04:43] <twibbler> chessie: settings ... repositories ... allows you to add and remove ... save having to do it all manually ...
[04:43] <cheesie> ive addd the respository hoary hedegot
[04:43] <cheesie> but still cant fine sun -j2
[04:43] <cheesie> for java
[04:43] <dalamar> the wiki works if you have all the repos installed, just did it last night
[04:43] <NoHope> hey, when will gnome 2.12 be released?
[04:44] <NoHope> sep 7?
[04:44] <twibbler> chessie: sorry have to go with the wiki ubotu said ... dont use java .... (prefer perl)...
[04:45] <DJWillis> Does anybody know if the MADWiFi package in Brezzey is more recent then the ancient one in Horty?
[04:46] <apokryphos> DJWillis: you can find out easily by yourself -- http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <spola> where do i find esdsp?
[04:48] <DJWillis> apokryphos: problem is I have no idea what the package is called (it's not madwifi for sure) and it's in the base distro so I have never quiter figured out what deb it came from.
[04:49] <apokryphos> DJWillis: wondering why you called it a package then :P. Nevermind; what exactly does it provide?
[04:50] <ompaul> on thise little box: apt-cache search editor | wc :: result::    489    3953   25880 <-- there is more than one way to edit a file :)
[04:52] <DJWillis> apokryphos: if it's in Ubuntu it's fair to say it came from a DEB (well I would assume as much), it's a WiFi kernal mode driver for one WiFi chipset, ahhh, found it, it's deep inside the linux-restricted-modules package, hmm, now to see what Brezzy has.
[04:52] <DJWillis> apokryphos: still, thanks for the link, I had forgot about that site, VERY handy.
[04:53] <freshmint> hi. does the ubuntu live cd support ntfs?
[04:53] <disasm> freshmint: read-onlhy
[04:53] <freshmint> dieman, thx. that's all i need ;-)
[04:55] <vader1102> cafuego, you here or busy?
[04:56] <dalamar> small xchat question, is there a way to have to channels on your main xchat screen ie like mirc? the cascade or tile or whatever its called?
[04:58] <DJWillis> dalamar: not AFAIK, it's not an MDI app in that sense, you can have many servers in 'tabs' on the top or bottom, I do that and it works very well.
[04:58] <brenner> dalamar: #xchat is great!
[04:59] <dalamar> k thanks for the info
[05:01] <vader1102> ha! got it to auto join lol
[05:02] <Evenfall> is there a package with kernel source for ubuntu 5.04? or I have to download "the real kernel source"?
[05:03] <brenner> vader1102: how'd you do it? :)
[05:03] <lonewolff> Evenfall: apt-cache search linux-source
[05:03] <dalamar> ah ill just detach one window and throw it somewhere else on the desktop, #xchat had the ticket thanks ;)
[05:03] <Evenfall> thanx
[05:03] <brenner> dalamar: yeah, they helped me out in the past
[05:03] <vader1102> I am using X-Chat and went into ubuntu servers and edit then just typed in the password
[05:04] <vader1102> then left the channel and came back and it auto came in lol
[05:04] <brenner> vader1102: weird i've got it entered in both nickserv and server
[05:04] <vader1102> I did too but for some reason, maybe my laptop it wouldn't work
[05:05] <MrBear> back
[05:05] <MrBear> well I cant install ubuntu
[05:06] <vader1102> I have to take my desktop pc apart today and clean it.... I think my poer supply is so full of dog hair that it has quit working lol
[05:06] <brenner> vader1102: your dog sleeps on your computer? :)
[05:06] <dodder> vader1102, heeeh :) my neightbours cat comes in, from time to time, and it rips my cables out from the computer... really annoying :)
[05:07] <MrBear> I think I got a corrupted cd
[05:07] <vader1102> brenner, nope lol, but by the looks of the power supply fan she does lol
[05:07] <ompaul> MrBear, does it boot at all, and are you using a mac or PC?
[05:07] <vader1102> MrBear, did you download the cd or get it from ubuntu? there was word of a bad batch from them
[05:08] <MrBear> well I installed and it got a error when it was installing the base system
[05:09] <Suschman> hi
[05:09] <vader1102> I downloaded early in the week and it worked great
[05:09] <MrBear> where you get it
[05:09] <vader1102> one sec and I'll get the URL
[05:09] <Suschman> i have a problem installing mplayer-386, its not in the repository. universe directory is enabled ...
[05:09] <MrBear> well one it installed but when it rebooted it didnt start
[05:09] <ompaul> MrBear, if it is a PC I suggest that you do a 'server' install when the machine comes up there is an option to type server, after that 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' can be a useful way to start
[05:09] <apokryphos> Suschman: it's in Multiverse.
[05:09] <MrBear> and now it wont complete the install
[05:09] <fblade1987> hey guys can you tell em how esay it is too put kde onto unbutu?
[05:10] <MrBear> ?
[05:10] <apokryphos> fblade1987: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <apokryphos> fblade1987: one command -- I'd say that was easy. :0
[05:10] <Suschman> apokryphos, are there any caveeats enabling multiverse ??
[05:10] <CarlFK> vader1102 - if all else fails, or you want a "sure thing" - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:10] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Suschman about repos
[05:10] <ompaul> MrBear back about ten lines ..
[05:10] <Suschman> thx apokryphos
[05:11] <MrBear> well I got a 1998 Dell Dimension 8100
[05:11] <vader1102> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ this is what I used
[05:11] <ompaul> MrBear did you read the info I gave out there?
[05:11] <CarlFK> vader1102 - some of my boxes don't boot from CD even though they did 10 min ago, same disk.  SBM will boot it.
[05:11] <fblade1987> and also dose any one know of a good wysiwyg webpage editor, rather like dreamweaver?
[05:11] <vader1102> CarlFK, ok thanx book marking now
[05:12] <CarlFK> fblade1987 http://www.nvu.com is as close as you are going to get
[05:12] <MrBear> yep
[05:12] <MrBear> sorry
[05:12] <ompaul> MrBear, do you understand what I have suggested?
[05:12] <apokryphos> Much better to just code it -- it's not hard to learn.
[05:12] <MrBear> ok vader this is what I downloaded
[05:12] <apokryphos> wysiwyg editors generally produce crummy code
[05:12] <MrBear> yes I understand ompaul
[05:13] <vader1102> ompaul, sorry didn't see that you were helping him, vader1102 hides in closet
[05:13] <MrBear> si there a way to check if my cd is valid
[05:14] <CarlFK> MrBear - somewere in the menu is something like 'check media'
[05:14] <CarlFK> fblade1987 - nvu isn't visual?
[05:15] <Suschman> apokryphos: sry to ask you again, but is w32codecs no longer avaliable from the repo ?
[05:16] <apokryphos> Suschman: it's in hoary-extras now
[05:17] <MrBear> I am lost
[05:17] <Pyf> i just installed apache, how would i go about accessing the web server from another computer, not on my network
[05:17] <Suschman> aswell as libdvdcss2 i hope :)
[05:17] <Pyf> when i try it goes to my routers page
[05:17] <ompaul> Suschman,  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras restricted <<< that has lots of stuff, even some things I can't tell you about :)
[05:17] <Suschman> Pyf, you need to open the necessary ports in your router
[05:17] <fblade1987> dose anyone know a good gba emulator for linux apart from visualboy advance
[05:18] <theeil> fblade1987: what's wrong with that?
[05:18] <Pyf> Suschman, what ports? 80?
[05:18] <dodder> Pyf, exactly :)
[05:18] <Suschman> yep. i think you mean "the internet" or something behind your router with "not in my network"
[05:19] <Suschman> go to your router config page and add a route from outside connections to port 80 redirecting to port 80 of your unbuntu system
[05:19] <Pyf> ahh thanks, port forwarding done and i see the test page :)
[05:20] <MrBear> ok I am going to try the server thing
[05:20] <CarlFK> btw - my choice for web site stuf: http://www.joomla.org
[05:21] <ompaul> MrBear, good luck with it, when you log in the first time do this on the command line 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[05:21] <CarlFK> (what used to be mambo)
[05:21] <MrBear> ok I got it thanks
[05:21] <MrBear> wish me luck
[05:21] <vader1102> ompaul, that's what I missed on my server @ work lol
[05:22] <vader1102> <----has to go to work to try it tomorrow ;-)
[05:22] <MrBear> dont matter if this cd I burned is corrupted?
[05:22] <Suschman> apokryphos: why has this stuff all been outsourced, copyright related things ?
[05:23] <CarlFK> MrBear - no.  you can still use it to put your coffe cup on.
[05:23] <apokryphos> Suschman: precisely. Hoary-extras is actually illegal
[05:23] <ompaul> apokryphos, in a lot of places
[05:23] <Suschman> apokryphos: ;)
[05:23] <Pyf> I installed apache using apt-get, whereabouts would it have installed it, so what do i modify to get rid of the default test page and put a proper page on?
[05:24] <MrBear> well now what do I do
[05:24] <apokryphos> Pyf: /var/www/
[05:24] <vader1102> hmmmmm getting close to lunch time, need to go and eat.
[05:24] <apokryphos> Pyf: ...that will be http://localhost
[05:24] <ompaul> vader1102, no it is getting closer to 5pm :)
[05:25] <Suschman> timezones are bogus :)
[05:25] <vader1102> is there a way of making ISO images in Ubuntu?
[05:25] <Suschman> swatch  @time rules *g*
[05:25] <vader1102> ompaul, where you are yes but where I am almost 12 noon
[05:25] <thenuke> vader1102: everything is possible
[05:25] <CarlFK> vader1102 - mkisofs and k3b (that doesnt look right)
[05:25] <Suschman> vader1102: for example with mkisofs on the shell
[05:26] <vader1102> hmmmmm ok...thanx
[05:26] <CarlFK> vader1102 - make iso from files or a CD?
[05:26] <ompaul> vader1102, that is there, this is a time zone in your future :)
[05:26] <vader1102> cd
[05:26] <CarlFK> doh
[05:26] <robert-in-au> burn or make an iso?
[05:26] <vader1102> make
[05:26] <CarlFK> vader1102 - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[05:26] <ompaul> MrBear, take a pm?
[05:27] <vader1102> k
[05:27] <MrBear> yes
[05:27] <CarlFK> i think /dev/cdrom is setup by default, right?
[05:27] <vader1102> anyhow I need to go and eat be back after lunch
[05:28] <Ichanz> hi
[05:29] <robert-in-au> yes /dev/cdrom is the default and /media/cdrom is th mount point
[05:29] <Pyf> apokryphos, when i try and drag a file into /var/www/ it wont let me, says i dont have permission
[05:29] <robert-in-au> then do it as root
[05:29] <apokryphos> no
[05:29] <apokryphos> Better to chmod/chown the directory
[05:30] <Pyf> how do i do that?
[05:30] <robert-in-au> go into a terminal and type "sudo nautilus"
[05:30] <apokryphos> Pyf: sudo chown {username}:{username} /var/www/
[05:30] <theeil> Pyf: i would change the group that owns the folder to something and chmod 770 the folder
[05:30] <robert-in-au> my way is easier
[05:31] <apokryphos> robert-in-au: no, your way is less practical
[05:31] <Ichanz> robert-in-au my way is easier <-- keep going mate
[05:31] <apokryphos> especially if you do a lot of editing in your /var/www/, which you will
[05:31] <apokryphos> defeats the whole point of root/sudo if you're constnatly logged in it
[05:31] <Pyf> cool, thanks :)
[05:31] <Suschman> the universe programs have no icon in the programs menu, how do i change these ? configuring the gui was a miracle to me ever since :(
[05:32] <robert-in-au> yes if your doing it alot chown is better
[05:32] <_BIJ_> hi guys!
[05:32] <Seveas> Suschman, with smeg
[05:32] <Ichanz> my floppy doesn't work in ubuntu .... how to make it works
[05:32] <Seveas> Ichanz, what did you try?
[05:32] <fblade1987> im now reeally board whats something good i can get for linux that will enteraine me for a while
[05:33] <Seveas> fblade1987, kobo deluxe
[05:33] <Seveas> package kbodl
[05:33] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, what did you try? <-- ubuntu does not detect my floppy
[05:33] <Seveas> kobodl*
[05:33] <_BIJ_> i got a problem using the edge icons with ubuntu 5.04... anyone has experiences with these icons?
[05:33] <Oetzi> hi
[05:33] <Seveas> Ichanz, does it detect the drive?
[05:33] <Seveas> hi Oetzi
[05:33] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, does it detect the drive? <- the drive itself is detected by bios ...
[05:34] <Suschman> Seveas: smeg should be installed ? cant find it
[05:34] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Suschman about smeg
[05:34] <Oetzi> i have problems with the ubuntu installer
[05:34] <Seveas> Ichanz, does /dev/fd0 exist?
[05:34] <Oetzi> it hangs up on
[05:34] <robert-in-au> you have to apt-get / synaptic it
[05:34] <Suschman> ah, thx
[05:34] <Ichanz> hang on... i check it
[05:34] <Oetzi> startin PC-Card-service
[05:35] <Oetzi> can anyone help me
[05:36] <pixman> hello
[05:36] <apokryphos> aloha
[05:36] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, does /dev/fd0 exist? <-- does not !!!!
[05:37] <Oetzi> i have a toshiba Satellite A80-154 and really got enough from this shit fucking Win XP
[05:37] <pixman> Oetzi, what's the prob?
[05:37] <Oetzi> the installer stops at starting PC-card-service
[05:37] <Suschman> Oetzi: i remember some sattelite books have a nonstandart diskdrive controller
[05:37] <Suschman> sayed google something about it ?
[05:38] <Oetzi> Suschman: no i have googled about 1 day now
[05:39] <robert-in-au> ooh you have a toshiba - do you have a problem with the keyboard
[05:39] <Oetzi> robert-in-au: no keyboard works fine
[05:40] <robert-in-au> even if you use the touchpad and the kb at the same time
[05:40] <Oetzi> Suschman: I think the pc-card-service is the pcmcia module
[05:41] <Oetzi> i have tried with bootoption no acpi
[05:41] <Oetzi> the installer worked fine then
[05:41] <Suschman> try with expert mode and not loading card services
[05:42] <Suschman> if it works without acpi then its ok or not ?
[05:42] <Oetzi> but it didn't find the lan-card
[05:42] <Suschman> my system here neddet noacpi noapic aswell and its standart nvidia chipset
[05:43] <Suschman> acpi is oh well a bad thing, to complicated standart. hehe, after ten years not one complete compilant implementation avalaibe :D
[05:43] <Oetzi> yes I know
[05:43] <Suschman> Oetzi, lan card inside notebook or inside pcmcia slot ?
[05:44] <robert-in-au> does anyone know how to get a ati radeon + a nforce2 mobo working in linux
[05:44] <robert-in-au> (with hardware acceleration)
[05:44] <Suschman> nforce2 should run asap, radeon aswell, just install closed source driver afterwards to get 3d
[05:44] <theeil> fetchmail is not doing anything
[05:44] <Suschman> aceleration
[05:45] <Suschman> have a wiki in german describing that, duno if it helps you
[05:45] <Oetzi> the notbook has a integrated gigabit-lan-card and an integrated intel 2200bg WLAN-card
[05:45] <robert-in-au> there is an agp-gart (or something) problem
[05:45] <Oetzi> both are not found by the installer
[05:45] <Suschman> the wlan not found is normal, you can maybe bring it to live later
[05:45] <robert-in-au> well ill try translating it or ill show it to a friend
[05:45] <fblade1987> is aMSN any good or is there a better alternative/
[05:45] <robert-in-au> linky please
[05:46] <Suschman> the gigabit chips is some other thing, it depends on the manuifaturer and if its standalaone or someway chipset intefrated
[05:46] <sigurdga> fblade1987: gaim, gossip
[05:46] <Suschman> robert-in-au: mean me ?
[05:46] <theeil> i configured fetchmail ofr my gmail account and it seemed to work but didn't write any files. i noticed that postfix was not installed, so i installed anc configured that and now when i type fetchmail it tells me there is a daemon running
[05:46] <apokryphos> fblade1987: kopete is good too
[05:46] <Oetzi> the gigabit-aln is a marvel chipset
[05:47] <kevogod> GAIM is fun.
[05:47] <kevogod> (love capitalizing it)
[05:49] <Suschman> Oetzi: i remember seeing marvel supported
[05:49] <reiki> theeil: if it's telling you a daemon is running, first look in your home folder and see if there's a .fetchmailrc file (it's hidden... so Show hidden files)
[05:49] <theeil> fblade1987: go with gaim, but IMHO it needs configuration
[05:49] <Oetzi> so I'll goe offline know and try it with the old wlan-netgear pcmcia card which worked fine in the old notebook
[05:49] <theeil> reiki: that's how i configured it
[05:50] <Oetzi> thx for your help
[05:50] <reiki> theeil: well if a daemon is running then you can't just fetchmail whenever you want. It'll just say that teh daemon is awakened
[05:51] <MrBear> brb
[05:52] <MAPD> hi
[05:52] <Gnonthgol> hi
[05:52] <cheesie> !limewire
[05:52] <ubotu> somebody said limewire was at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:52] <jeanjean> Can someone help with Intel HD sound card ?
[05:52] <cheesie> maybe
[05:52] <MAPD> i wanted to delete ubuntu but couldnt do fdisk /mbr since windows cd couldnt boot i removed all partitions then and the windows one too wont it harm the disk ? And then i installed windows
[05:52] <MAPD> help
[05:52] <cheesie> maybe not
[05:52] <jeanjean> I did this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:53] <jeanjean> and unmuted everthing but still no sound
[05:53] <djur> what would I put under options in my fstab file for an NTFS volume?
[05:54] <Gnonthgol> MAPD: the mbr is always required, just reinstall winsows mbr
[05:54] <theeil> how do i configure (whatever) so that i can send mail with "mail someone@somethingnotlocal"
[05:54] <MAPD> Gnonthgol i think you didnt understand
[05:54] <MAPD> may i msg you pls?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> MAPD: is it windows xp?
[05:55] <MAPD> yes
[05:55] <MAPD> q Gnonthgol
[05:55] <bur[n] er> MAPD: and your windowx sp cd won't boot?
[05:55] <MAPD> yes
[05:55] <Maikeru> eww Windows
[05:55] <MAPD> ill explain what i did
[05:55] <bur[n] er> MAPD: no way to get it back if windows cd won't boot... you could reinstall grub from an ubuntu cd to get to windows
[05:55] <MAPD> first i couldnt find a program to replace my dvd authoring thing
[05:56] <bur[n] er> if windows cd will boot, run 'fixboot' 'fixmbr'
[05:56] <MAPD> second i wanted to get back to windows
[05:56] <MAPD> i could get into windows and linux
[05:56] <MAPD> grub was working
[05:57] <MAPD> the windows wasnt booting so i wanted to remove grub i couldnt find a way and i got a tools cd and used partition magic to remove win and linux partitions
[05:57] <MAPD> did i do wrong?
[05:57] <djur> I'm trying to add this drive to fstab so I can mount it...   /dev/hda2             754         790      297202+   5  Extended
[05:57] <djur> any ideas?
[05:57] <djur> ah you know what.. that's the wrong drive
[05:58] <Maikeru> lol
[05:58] <Maikeru> :)
[05:58] <MAPD> bur[n] er what do you think?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> MAPD: you removed all partitions?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> you did wrong
[05:58] <MAPD> why?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> you removed all your data
[05:58] <MAPD> yes
[05:58] <MAPD> i dont care
[05:58] <MAPD> i already saved
[05:58] <MAPD> what i needed
[05:59] <Maikeru> The lesson is
[05:59] <Maikeru> never use Windows
[05:59] <Maikeru> It makes everything complicated.
[05:59] <MAPD> Maikeru the problem is
[05:59] <MAPD> i cant find the program to make it good
[05:59] <MAPD> :P
[05:59] <Maikeru> To make what good?
[05:59] <MAPD> if i could find some programs
[05:59] <MAPD> i wouldnt care for windows
[05:59] <MrBear> well i guess no ubuntu for me
[05:59] <Maikeru> You can't find a program to make -Ubuntu- good?
[05:59] <Maikeru> 0-o
[05:59] <robert-in-au> there is a boot disk that just reformats stuff when you boot it
[06:00] <MAPD> Maikeru
[06:00] <MAPD> i explained wrong
[06:00] <MAPD> :\
[06:00] <MrBear> it wont install
[06:00] <bur[n] er> MAPD: you need some program in linux that doesn't exist yet
[06:00] <bur[n] er> correct?
[06:00] <MAPD> my question is i didnt remove grub properly with fixboot and thigs like that
[06:00] <Maikeru> robert-in-au, Darol
[06:00] <djur> okay.. here is a more general question..
[06:00] <Maikeru> robert-in-au, Darik's boot and nuke?
[06:00] <djur> how do you access data on NTFS systems from ubuntu?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> MAPD: so?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> djur: you can only read... unless you use the captive ntfs driver
[06:00] <djur> NTFS partitions I should say.
[06:01] <kspath> I wiped out WinXP and MacOSX for Ubuntu and Debian linux  it can do everything for my family and work
[06:01] <Maikeru> djur: You can mount the NTFS drive via mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mnt
[06:01] <Maikeru> but it's readonly
[06:01] <CarlFK> Maikeru - I don't think you need the -t ntfs
[06:01] <djur> I downloaded some NTFS utilities through synaptic
[06:01] <robert-in-au> there is a way to add write support
[06:01] <Maikeru> CarlFK, meh, I do it neway
[06:01] <king_size> hello
[06:02] <MAPD> bur[n] er pls msg me
[06:02] <king_size> does anybody has avidemux installed
[06:03] <MAPD> pls help
[06:03] <MAPD> :P
[06:03] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive
[06:04] <djur> that drive is showing up as /dev/sda
[06:04] <MrBear> :(
[06:04] <djur> and I can't seem to mount it
[06:04] <kwoncha> MAPD: if you simply want to remove grub on your mbr you can just boot msdos and fdisk /mbr did you?
[06:04] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - but I am not sure if there is a "slick ubuntu way" to use captive
[06:04] <MAPD> kwoncha i couldnt do that
[06:05] <robert-in-au> well when i was building my kernel in gentoo i saw an option for it - but it was still experimental
[06:06] <MrBear> anybody give me a good download spot I keep getting corrupted cd
[06:06] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - there are 2 ways: the pure way (all opensource code) or the cheat (uses drivers from MS)
[06:07] <robert-in-au> i see
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - can you get the iso on a linux box?
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - never mind that
[06:07] <robert-in-au> btw i never did get the gentoo install to work
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - what OS is the .iso on now?
[06:07] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - Generally Too much hassle....
[06:08] <robert-in-au> yea
[06:08] <MrBear> xp
[06:08] <MrBear> I only have one box with XP on it
[06:08] <robert-in-au> Window XP - Winblows Xtera Poopy
[06:08] <CarlFK> MrBear - http://www.md5summer.org - check the md5sum of the iso
[06:08] <MrBear> I keep trying to get the torrent but I keep getting a connection refused
[06:08] <kwoncha> #join wxpython
[06:09] <MrBear> how do I do that
[06:09] <CarlFK> MrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?
[06:10] <MrBear> united states link on the site
[06:10] <CarlFK> MrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?  (something I can click on)
[06:10] <Zotnix> Okay, I know Breezy isn't supported but I'm insane and upgraded. I got usplash to work and whatnot... anyway to get inotify to work for beagle?
[06:10] <Zotnix> I tried modprobe inotify but... nothing.
[06:11] <MrBear> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[06:11] <chope> hi, does anyone know how to place subtitles in the black borders when playing a widescreen movie fullscreen on mplayer?
[06:11] <CarlFK> MrBear - good.  look at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[06:12] <jeanjean> can anyone help with my sound plz
[06:12] <MrBear> I just see a bunch of letters
[06:12] <CarlFK> MrBear - http://www.md5summer.org <-- use that to get the md5sum of what you have.  it should be f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840  ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[06:12] <jeanjean> xmms looks like hes playing but still no sound
[06:13] <CarlFK> if the 2 match, then your file is good.  if they don't, it is bad.
[06:14] <Suschman> i try now the dvb reciever, thx guys
[06:14] <chope> jeanjean: are you sure you are using the right output plugin?
[06:14] <pirast> Hi, I use gaim. I want gaim to be invisible when I start it and I want to have a list where I can put users  who can see me if I am online. Is it possible? How?
[06:14] <Suschman> cu
[06:15] <jeanjean> chope, just installed new alsa
[06:15] <dodder> is it possible to add programs to the gnome menu ?
[06:15] <Maikeru> yes
[06:15] <Maikeru> apt-get install smeg
[06:16] <dodder> huh ?
[06:16] <Maikeru> Then go to Applications > System Tools > Smeg Menu Editor
[06:16] <dodder> okey, thanks :)
[06:17] <MAPD> how to install nrg2iso?
[06:17] <chope> jeanjean: if you are getting output with other programs using asla i dont know what it could be
[06:17] <lakcaj> Why does ubuntu get rid of the alsaconf utility from alsa-utils?
[06:17] <kwoncha> Does anybody know how can disable antialiasing in macromedia flash player by default?
[06:18] <zblach> hi
[06:18] <djur> for mount is       "/" equivalent to C:  in NTFS?
[06:18] <lakcaj> MAPD, how do you install other software?
[06:18] <MAPD> lakcaj the guy is asking me
[06:18] <zblach> quick question. how to mount an ipod?
[06:18] <MAPD> LOL
[06:18] <spiral> hi
[06:19] <dalamar> !ipod
[06:19] <ubotu> hmm... ipod is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto
[06:19] <zblach> eheh.. thanks
[06:19] <lakcaj> MAPD, ok :)
[06:19] <zblach> how 'bout a media keyboard?
[06:20] <MAPD> lakcaj i dont even know the file format
[06:20] <MAPD> :\
[06:20] <MrBear> how do you use the md5 program
[06:20] <lakcaj> So nobody really seems to know why alsaconf is missing?
[06:20] <djur> what do you pick for a mount point on an NTFS drive?
[06:20] <lakcaj> MrBear, md5sum /path/to/file
[06:21] <djur> I tried "/" but that's where my linux partition is mounted..  so I'm not sure it likes that..
[06:21] <lakcaj> djur, make it whatever you want.  Create  a /windows for example
[06:21] <MAPD> my friend lost his knoppix
[06:21] <MAPD> root password
[06:21] <MAPD> what should he do?
[06:21] <djur> so / substitutes for C:/  ?
[06:22] <MAPD> sorry asking here
[06:22] <dalamar> reinstall ;)
[06:22] <lakcaj> djur, no
[06:22] <MrBear> man this is too complete
[06:22] <MAPD> but i needed something from him
[06:22] <MAPD> :\
[06:22] <djur> or is it essentially /dev/sda = C: (they are different ways of saying the same thing?)
[06:22] <lakcaj> djur, if you are trying to mount an NTFS partition while in linux, create a /windows directory, and mount it there.
[06:22] <djur> okay
[06:23] <lakcaj> djur, / is the root partition of all your linux files.  You can't mount something else over that and expect your system to still work.
[06:23] <MrBear> complicated*
[06:23] <lakcaj> MrBear, what is complicated?  What are you trying to do?
[06:23] <MrBear> I just want a working cd
[06:25] <djur> hm...
[06:26] <lakcaj> MrBear, check that the iso you downloaded has the proper md5sum by issuing       md5sum /path/to/downloaded.iso
[06:26] <djur> so I created the directory.. but it says the drive is mounted at /  which... is.. as you say.. bad.
[06:26] <MrBear> got to redownload it
[06:27] <Nalioth_zZz> MrBear: what image are you wanting to get?
[06:27] <lakcaj> djur, you are in your ubuntu system right now?  If you have something besides your ubuntu partition mounted at / then yes, that is bad :)
[06:28] <zblach> !keyboard
[06:28] <ubotu> zblach: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:28] <MrBear> x86
[06:28] <zblach> !media keyboard
[06:28] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, zblach
[06:28] <Nalioth_zZz> MrBear: a daily image or a regular hoary image?
[06:28] <djur> it won't let me unmount it because it is busy..
[06:28] <stpere> hey there
[06:28] <zblach> hey
[06:28] <MrBear> omg
[06:29] <stpere> is there an "official" ubuntu package for listening to podcasts? (suscribing, syncing)
[06:29] <Nalioth> MrBear: depending on what you are after, you may not have to d/l it all again
[06:29] <MrBear> I just want a simple desktop on this computer
[06:30] <djur> when the system loads it mounts everything from the fstab file, right?
[06:30] <Nalioth> MrBear: what iso are you after?
[06:30] <lakcaj> djur, I think you may need to reboot.
[06:30] <djur> so if I have every entered correctly in the fstab file, if I reboot it will remount the drive at /windows
[06:30] <djur> reboot and hope it reboots, right?
[06:31] <MrBear> one that works on this computer
[06:31] <Nalioth> MrBear: if your md5sums mismatch, find the .torrent to match the image you d/l
[06:32] <Nalioth> MrBear: it will correct/add/whatever to complete it (w/o you having to d/l the whole thing agaain)
[06:32] <MrBear> I have to redownload it anyway
[06:32] <MrBear> cause ubuntu wiped my drive
[06:33] <Nalioth> MrBear: ah
[06:34] <djur> when entering startup programs into "sessions" do you have to put a . before the files to make it execute?
[06:34] <djur> like ./usr/bin/BLAH
[06:34] <djur> or would /usr/bin/BLAH work?
[06:35] <MAPD> is there a symbian emulator?
[06:35] <Nalioth> djur, no dot needed
[06:35] <Nalioth> djur: with a direct expression
[06:35] <zblach> how to use keyboard media buttons with xmms?
[06:35] <djur> thanks
[06:36] <disasm> djur: a dot says execute in this current directory, so unless your executing /usr/bin/BLAH from / ./user/bin/BLAH wouldn't work
[06:38] <spola> except in a bash scipt when there's a space between the dot and the path then the dot simple means "source this"
[06:38] <disasm> zblach: try a program called lineak
[06:40] <disasm> zblach: sudo apt-get install lineakd
[06:40] <zblach> lemme look for it
[06:41] <k1234> Hello
[06:42] <zblach> easy to integrate with xmms?
[06:42] <zblach> sound +/- already works
[06:43] <disasm> zblach: supposed to be
[06:44] <bobert> I'm using the default firefox that comes with ubuntu, and I'm having an issuew ith it. I try to do a context menu > properties on an image, and the properties window comes up and says I have an XML Parsing error along with an error and it's location
[06:45] <MAPD> byebye
[06:45] <MAPD> gtg
[06:47] <lakcaj> bobert, did you upgrade firefox while it was still running?  Try shutting down firefox and starting it back up.
[06:47] <Gnonthgol> bobert: What image? Have you tryed an image on another server??
[06:47] <bobert> lakcaj, that's a good idea. I DID just run updates, but I didn't check to see if firefox was in there
[06:47] <lakcaj> XML Parsing errors occur (among other times I'm sure) when you upgrade firefox while you are still using it.
[06:48] <bobert> aha!
[06:48] <bobert> it worked, thank you lakcaj
[06:48] <lakcaj> np
[06:50] <MrBear> I guess I will have to stick to XP
[06:55] <flodine> guys im tring to install breezy can i put the bootloader on a diffrent drive?
[06:56] <ce33na> flodine: I'm not a bootloader pro, but is there an option to not install the bootloader?
[06:56] <FatDarrel> sure
[06:56] <flodine> yes
[06:56] <ce33na> you could just edit your present bootloader to recognize the new install
[06:57] <ce33na> I've done such things in the past, but I couldn't guide you through it though. Sorry
[06:57] <FatDarrel> Among the new enhancements to the Linux kernel is "Kexec," which allows for a fast reboot without the need to go through a bootloader.
[06:58] <ce33na> btw...is there a release date set for breezy....or will it just be ready when it is ready?
[06:58] <c0rrupt_> how can i chown a file to be public
[06:58] <flodine> i just dont understand why breezy wont boot after the install is complete
[06:58] <dalamar> oct 13th
[06:59] <ce33na> flodine: you have to be more specific
[06:59] <fevel> can anyone help me put subtitles on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt
[07:00] <c0rrupt_> like.. have no owner
[07:02] <h17m4n> ok so I got the UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[07:02] <h17m4n> how do I install it?
[07:02] <seife> hi, i have two differents OS one in each HD, how can i do to join in ubuntu, or windows,  is there any prog that tells me where to join
[07:02] <seife> (my english sucks) btw.
[07:03] <h17m4n> boot manager?
[07:03] <h17m4n> ubuntu comes with GRUB
[07:03] <h17m4n> when you install ubuntu it asks you to let it install it
[07:04] <Nalioth> back to the nap
[07:04] <h17m4n> when you do, everytime the computer starts it will give you many options to choose from
[07:06] <seife> really?
[07:07] <h17m4n> si
[07:07] <fevel> can anyone help me subtitle on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt
[07:07] <fevel> please
[07:08] <vegalabs> hi, has anyone gotten wireless working under hoary for the thinkpad t41p (intel wireless/pro 2100). most say it works out of the box. doesn't seem to be the case here.
[07:09] <Whistler> how do i play avi files?
[07:09] <FatDarrel> Whistler, use xine and mplayer or totem
[07:10] <dalamar> believe in magic
[07:10] <fanopnaic> or vlc.
[07:10] <fevel> check the wiki Whistler
[07:10] <Whistler> Totem-xine gives me an There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[07:10] <Whistler> i installed it using sudo aprt-get install totem-xine
[07:10] <FatDarrel> Whistler, you don't have the codec, you may need to download the divx and xvid codecs etc
[07:10] <dalamar> !codecs
[07:10] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:11] <Whistler> k
[07:11] <Whistler> thx
[07:11] <FatDarrel> Whistler, do an apt-cache search xvid and apt-cache search codecs
[07:11] <h17m4n> I got wireless working
[07:11] <h17m4n> but it was Broadcom
[07:11] <fevel> Whistler, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:11] <h17m4n> it was kinda hard
[07:11] <FatDarrel> h17m4n, ufff
[07:11] <FatDarrel> h17m4n, as if it should easy >sigh<
[07:12] <h17m4n> well, from what I heard it's harder than installing the intel one
[07:12] <h17m4n> did you try ndiswrapper?
[07:12] <vegalabs> h17m4n: no i haven't.
[07:13] <Paradoxx> which one you guys prefer, totem, or mplayeR?
[07:13] <h17m4n> let me get you the howto I used
[07:13] <h17m4n> h/o
[07:13] <dalamar> xine!
[07:14] <vegalabs> k. i'm getting ndis.
[07:14] <Paradoxx> dalamar: y do you say that?
[07:14] <vegalabs> Paradoxx: most definitely mplayer.
[07:14] <Paradoxx> i'm useing totem atm, and the functionality etc, just feels so limited
[07:14] <MrBear> sorry guys but I guess I will go
[07:15] <__filip_> i have install apache, where should i put my html file?
[07:15] <h17m4n> This walkthrough is good: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:15] <vegalabs> h17m4n: thanks
[07:15] <Paradoxx> so, mplayer or xine?
[07:15] <Paradoxx> i guess its down  to that
[07:16] <vegalabs> Paradoxx: why don't you try them and see which you prefer?
[07:16] <h17m4n> vega wait
[07:16] <h17m4n> this one is easier: http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~aruljohn/debian/
[07:16] <h17m4n> go down to wireless and ndiswrapper
[07:17] !lilo:*! If you're experiencing problems with private message spambots, please message me. Thanks!
[07:17] <h17m4n> make sure you have the .sys and .inf for your card
[07:17] <Maikeru> heh
[07:17] <Maikeru> any idea on the DWL-650 Revision P?
[07:17] <Maikeru> Can't get ndis to work with it
[07:17] <Maikeru> Bloody annoying
[07:17] <vegalabs> ok. the odd thing is that linux does see the card. it reports signal strength, retreives an ip address, but, doesn't actually connect.
[07:18] <h17m4n> ohh
[07:18] <vegalabs> well
[07:18] <zblach> you using wep encryption?
[07:18] <h17m4n> so dont follow that
[07:18] <Maikeru> Well, with my ubuntu it like doesn't recognize the card has been put in ;/
[07:18] <vegalabs> during the install it can't dhcp. maybe wep has something to do with it.
[07:18] <h17m4n> you probably need to input your wep key
[07:18] <zblach> and set mode to open, if appliccable
[07:18] <Maikeru> The card gets power sent to it (the activity light lights up), but I don't think it knows that a card is in there ;/
[07:18] <vegalabs> yeah, i have provided the ssid and wep keys. no dice.
[07:18] <Paradoxx> vegalabs: guess so..
[07:18] <Maikeru> (Oh, and sorry to jump in on someone else's problem)
[07:18] <zblach> System -> Admin -> Networking
[07:19] <zblach> try configuring through there
[07:19] <Paradoxx> how can i check if i installed the nvidia graphics acceleration stuff
[07:19] <zblach> paradoxx, glxgears should give you a very high number
[07:19] <h17m4n> I dun.... run glxgears
[07:19] <Whistler> how do i launch py program?
[07:19] <h17m4n> if you get over 1k it's ok
[07:19] <lakcaj> glxinfo | grep -i nvidia
[07:20] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, ^^^
[07:20] <Paradoxx> kk
[07:20] <Paradoxx> well, i just ran it awhile ago
[07:20] <Paradoxx> do i just leave it, or what?
[07:20] <Paradoxx> i see the gears spinning
[07:20] <zblach> look in the console, see some FPS numbers/
[07:20] <h17m4n> it outputs the number on the terminal window
[07:21] <zdennis> In Evolution, is there a way to collapse all threads?
[07:21] <h17m4n> it posts the FPS every 5 secs on that window
[07:21] <Whistler> how do i launch py program?
[07:21] <lakcaj> What is the full path to the python program?
[07:22] <Swen> I'm trying to install ubuntu and on reboot I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[07:22] <lakcaj> and program name?
[07:22] <Paradoxx> i don't see any fps
[07:22] <zblach> Paradoxx, in the console
[07:22] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, forget glxgears, just close it and run the command I showed you.
[07:22] <zblach> can one auto-detect networked printers?
[07:22] <vegalabs> zblach: yep, tried that. ifconfig shows an ipaddress. by default,the check box "this device is configured" is not checked. so i checked it. added ssid and key, plus dhcp seems to work.
[07:22] <zdennis> Swen, what is the error before that? Cannot mount root filesystem
[07:22] <zdennis> ?
[07:22] <h17m4n> dont just run the command from Applications > Run Application
[07:22] <Swen> the first error is pivot_root: No such file or directory
[07:22] <zblach> vegalabs, go to a console, iwconfig wlan0
[07:23] <h17m4n> Click Applications>System Tools>Terminal
[07:23] <Paradoxx> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74
[07:23] <zblach> ...careful about pasting
[07:23] <Swen> then...
[07:23] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, there you go, you're using nvidia
[07:23] <Paradoxx> kk
[07:23] <Swen> sbin/init:428 : cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[07:24] <Paradoxx> lakcaj you had recommended S5 to me yesterday?
[07:24] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, could have been.  I used S5 for a presentation I was working on.
[07:24] <vegalabs> zblach: iwconfig eth1 works. would you like me to message you the output?
[07:24] <Whistler> grrr. i installed everything in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs and
[07:24] <zeus1_> hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?
[07:24] <zdennis> Swen, is ther anything special about your system? 64-bit ?
[07:24] <Swen> any ideas? I went with defaults on a Dell
[07:24] <sJaM> !ubuntuguide
[07:24] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:25] <Whistler> totem cant play avi
[07:25] <Swen> Dell Pentium 4 Optiplex GX280
[07:25] <Swen> pretty generic
[07:25] <sJaM> which codec Whistler
[07:25] <lakcaj> Whistler, chmod 755 the python program, and then either "python /path/to/app/program_name.py" or "cd /path/to/app" and then "./program_name.py"
[07:25] <sJaM> avi can mean lots of codecs
[07:26] <Paradoxx> hmm, xine feels ALOT more responsive than totem
[07:26] <zdennis> during the installation does Ubuntu partition your hard drive for you, or do you partition it yousrelf?
[07:26] <Swen> Viewsonic flat screen vg710
[07:26] <h17m4n> ok.... how do I install the UT2004 demo? The run.gz file?
[07:26] <Paradoxx> the interface kinda sucks though, maybe its  cause i haven't got use to it yet
[07:26] <Swen> I let it do it (automatically
[07:27] <Swen> the drive I am using is on a USB port
[07:27] <lakcaj> h17m4n, gunzip the run file, chmod 755 it, and then execute it by being in the same directory as the file and the ./ureal_demo.run or whatever it is called.
[07:27] <zdennis> ah, u can't boot from that unless your BIOS lets you put from a USB drive
[07:27] <CarlFK> Swen - hoary or breezy?
[07:28] <Swen> ok...makes sense...let me try again...thx JILLIONS!
[07:28] <Maikeru> ZyAir G-102 Wireless-G PC Card, 802.11g, b
[07:28] <Maikeru> Hey
[07:29] <Maikeru> Is that wireless card workable on linux
[07:29] <Maikeru> like right away
[07:29] <Maikeru> does neone know?
[07:29] <h17m4n> gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[07:29] <Maikeru> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=319673&pfp=srch1
[07:29] <Maikeru> I can get it for $9.99 today
[07:30] <Maikeru> But the thing is it -has- to work on linux without a bunch of BS
[07:30] <lakcaj> h17m4n, are you sure it downloaded ok?  From that error message, it would appear that the download was prematurally (sp?) halted.
[07:30] <sJaM> I think it is one of those install script & archive in one file things
[07:30] <h17m4n> lakcaj, I used d4x
[07:31] <h17m4n> lakcaj, does it mess up downloads like that?
[07:31] <sJaM> just like .gz.sh
[07:31] <sJaM> or .sh.gz
[07:31] <lakcaj> h17m4n, I don't know, I don't abuse servers with download accelerators
[07:31] <sJaM> if you vim it h17m4n you see then a bash script
[07:31] <Maikeru> hrm
[07:31] <Agrajag> sJaM: not unless it's unzipped first
[07:32] <h17m4n> lakcaj, I'm not abusing the server... I'm on a 256k connection... it's not cool to have to restart dls
[07:32] <sJaM> like I said Agrajag it could be a script and archive in one file
[07:32] <Agrajag> sJaM: it is
[07:32] <Agrajag> But it has to be ungzipped before it can be run
[07:33] <h17m4n> firefox's download manager doesnt allow you to resume downloads, so I need to use a manager that will do so
[07:33] <djur> grrr..
[07:33] <sJaM> you also have wget h17m4n
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is breezy ready to use yet?
[07:33] <lakcaj> h17m4n, in any case, it would appear that the download was not successful.  I think you have to try again.
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or is it still plauged by problems?
[07:34] <Maikeru> ergh
[07:34] <Maikeru> hey
[07:34] <Maikeru> Texas Instruments chipsets based WiFi wireless IEEE 802.11a/b/g 54 Mbps 2.4/5 GHz devices
[07:34] <Maikeru> Do those work out-of-box on Linux?
[07:34] <djur> this is the second time I've installed ubuntu to have my USB keyboard stop working on a reboot...
[07:34] <Maikeru> Cause I found one for $10 instead of the usual $30, but the sale ends today
[07:34] <djur> when it boots in the live environment it detects the keyboard and works perfectly...  but on a reboot from an install it does not..
[07:34] <Maikeru> but the deal is only good to me if the card works on linux
[07:35] <Maikeru> It's a Texas Instruments chipset
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does anyone know if breezy is ready for use yet?
[07:35] <djur> when installing your are installing from root, right?  on a reboot is it not root?
[07:36] <dalamar> its still beta so no, things are still broken, alas its not released yet
[07:36] <Varanger> Hello!
[07:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn i can't waite for it
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love the horey addition so much it rocks so hard core
[07:37] <h17m4n> wget adresshere - that's how you use it right?
[07:37] <Varanger> I use Ubuntu and when my machine starts, it run gdm by default and then GNOME
[07:37] <Whistler> grrrr.
[07:37] <Whistler> i cant make ubuntu play avi file
[07:37] <Varanger> How can I make that depending on the user GNOME or KDE is are loaded ?
[07:37] <funkyHat> Varanger, on the login screen, there will be a button 'sessions'
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Whistler: you need to use backports to get .avi to play
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you need the W32codeces
[07:38] <Alcor_>  What do i do when the ubuntu install can't mount the cdrom ? If i go to a shell and do dmesg its says a cdrom is on /dev/sr0
[07:38] <funkyHat> Varanger, click that, then choose KDE, when you press enter, it will ask you if you want that to be the default session, or this time only
[07:38] <Whistler> ChurcH_of_FoamY i installed all plugins but totem-xine still cant play it
[07:38] <lakcaj> Alcor_, man mount
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well um use Mplayer
[07:38] <funkyHat> Varanger, (when you entered your username and password it will ask you that)
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it works for me
[07:38] <dalamar> totem is crap anyway, just use regular xine
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with the W32codeces
[07:39] <Varanger> funkyHat: thanks... but before that how can I install KDE ???
[07:39] <Zotnix> Anyone here using Breezy?
[07:39] <zeus1_> hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?
[07:39] <funkyHat> Varanger, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use beep for my music and Mplayer for .avi and other propriatery codecs
[07:39] <lakcaj> Alcor_, or add this to your /etc/fstab:           /dev/sr0       /media/cdrom2   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[07:39] <Zotnix> Having an odd error with python. I do import os and then os.getlogin()
[07:39] <Zotnix> I get "No such file or directory" error
[07:39] <funkyHat> Varanger, or if you're more comfortable using synaptic, find the package kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Zotnix: have you had any luck with breezy?
[07:39] <lakcaj> Alcor_, and change /media/cdrom2 to whatever you want, but be sure that directory exists
[07:39] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Yeah. Using it now.
[07:39] <Alcor_> lakcaj: mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom gives /mounting /dev/sr0 on /cdrom failed: No medium found
[07:40] <Varanger> funkyHat: Will that override my current configuration (gdm) ???
[07:40] <XiDuS> n
[07:40] <lakcaj> Alcor_, stupid question - is there a disk in the drive?
[07:40] <Alcor_> yes
[07:40] <saka|nix> lol
[07:40] <Zotnix> Is it an audio CD?
[07:40] <funkyHat> Varanger, you will be asked during the configuration whether you want to use gdm or kdm, but both gdm and kdm can be used to log in to either desktop environment
[07:40] <Alcor_> its the ubuntu install cd
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Zotnix: is it any good
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> should i use it now or waite?
[07:41] <lakcaj> Alcor_, try /dev/scd0
[07:41] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm liking it. Cairo is really nice for Ubuntu. I'd say wait... I had a few issues during upgrade
[07:41] <Zotnix> GDM messed up for a bit (config file problem), locales got messed up.
[07:41] <zeus1_> wats kubuntu
[07:41] <funkyHat> Varanger, the instructions i gave you for setting the default session apply to gdm, they are probably the same or similar for kdm, but i'm not certain
[07:41] <funkyHat> KDE
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i'll waite some more >.<
[07:41] <zeus1_> well wats a kde
[07:41] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Only a month wait.
[07:41] <funkyHat> it's an alternative to Gnome
[07:42] <Zotnix> But I'm insane. So I upgraded.
[07:42] <lakcaj> zeus1_, google is your friend
[07:42] <zeus1_> where get pics
[07:42] <Zotnix> Took a long time to upgrade too. Few errors during the install process.
[07:42] <zeus1_> is it like fluxbox
[07:42] <zeus1_> KDE
[07:42] <Varanger> funkyHat: you are the best! Thanks a lot...
[07:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need a cool tux sticker for my box
[07:43] <funkyHat> no problem Varanger
[07:43] <zeus1_> oh wait i remember KDE
[07:43] <Zotnix> But.. the good. Cairo is awesome. I don't think everything has ever looked this crisp
[07:43] <zeus1_> knoppix used KDE rite
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[07:43] <funkyHat> yep
[07:43] <zeus1_> ahh i like gnome better
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> 'yea gnome rocks
[07:43] <zeus1_> fluxbox is to hard for me
[07:43] <Zotnix> Aw :(
[07:43] <Zotnix> Command line applet doesn't accept URIs anymore
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> KDE is to um tweakable for my likes
[07:43] <Maikeru> knoppix can also switch to gnome
[07:43] <funkyHat> i have gnome, kde, e17, xfce4, and afterstep
[07:43] <zeus1_> well i at least want to get my sound working before i use fluxbox again
[07:43] <funkyHat> :P
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really i diden't know that
[07:44] <Maikeru> there's a thing in there to switch the display manager
[07:44] <Varanger> funkyHat: I have downloaded kubuntu CD and trying to add the repositories to sources.list
[07:44] <Maikeru> from gnome, kde, and some others
[07:44] <Varanger> (won't try to download more 100 mb again)
[07:44] <djur> surely someone knows how to make USB keyboards work consistently in ubuntu....   help meee..  I like my keyboard. ;)
[07:44] <Zotnix> http://zotnix.com/screens/current.png
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> man that is a killer desktop ^_^
[07:45] <Maikeru> nice
[07:45] <Maikeru> Good job on that Zotnix
[07:45] <Pickle_Weasel> is there an equalizer for rhythmbox?
[07:45] <Zotnix> Pondering playing around with xcompmgr again
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i like how you have your colours in your terminal boxes
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you do that?
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how did you get on irc through them?
[07:46] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Default for ubuntu
[07:46] <Zotnix> ls
[07:46] <Varanger> funkyHat: see you!
[07:46] <Zotnix> irssi
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> huh?
[07:46] <Zotnix> Is command line IRC client
[07:46] <Varanger> funkyHat: bye
[07:46] <dalamar> meh, everything on my desktop is the same color ;)
[07:46] <funkyHat> bye Varanger, have fun with KDE
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats not the defult colours and stuff for ubuntu O_o
[07:46] <Alcor_> lakcaj: did't work. But i rebootet and tryed sr0 again. I gives me mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only. gives me that 3 times and ends with a fail: Invalid argument
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> unless your talkin breezy
[07:46] <Zotnix> Wait.. you mean the windows?
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea they rock
[07:47] <zeus1_> anyone help me out with sound problems
[07:47] <Varanger> funkyHat: I'll have even more fun with MythTV and Cedega!
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with the clours and such
[07:47] <Zotnix> The titlebars and GTK theme is Clearlooks-graphite
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok how do i get it i like the way it looks
[07:48] <Zotnix> Theme doesn't work on Ubuntu Hoary
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this theme that comes with ubuntu is too bright for my likes
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that sucks
[07:48] <dalamar> edit your terminal profile and change the colors
[07:48] <Varanger> zeus1_: What problem do you have?
[07:48] <funkyHat> clearlooks doesn't work at all on hoary afaik
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause i want to make the ubuntu theme darker it's too bright for my taste
[07:48] <Whistler> grrrrr
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats the only thing i have an isshue with other than that ubuntu is perfect ^_^
[07:49] <funkyHat> ChurcH_of_FoamY, there are 100s of themes available online
[07:49] <Zotnix> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757
[07:49] <Zotnix> Where I got the theme
[07:49] <djur> Is there a USB keyboard module that I can put into /etc/modules  ?
[07:49] <Whistler> totem-xine plays avi files but it cant find plugin for a specific avi file
[07:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[07:49] <Alcor_> lakcaj: its a laptop and i can hear it tries very hard to mount. Maybe the cdrom is sata and no support for it ?
[07:49] <funkyHat> Zotnix, am i correct about clearlooks not working on hoary?
[07:49] <funkyHat> or was it something specific to that clearlooks theme? and just me for the rest of them? ;)
[07:50] <Zotnix> funkyHat: It works. Just too old for some new features in the engine
[07:50] <disasm> djur: usbkbd
[07:50] <Whistler> AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :(
[07:50] <helenka> please where to find alsaconf
[07:50] <funkyHat> ah, ok
[07:50] <funkyHat> that would probably explain why some themes i've downloaded don't work
[07:50] <funkyHat> (yeah, they are all clearlooks themes)
[07:50] <helenka> please where to find alsaconf?
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so what do you guys recommend for themeing ubuntu?
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like something cool and easy
[07:51] <Zotnix> oh. The theme changer works now... and woah. That was a bug
[07:51] <Zotnix> Hrm
[07:51] <Zotnix> Time for a bug report
[07:51] <djur> thank you disasm
[07:51] <lakcaj> Alcor_, not too sure, sorry
[07:51] <djur> is there any legacy or backup ones in case that doesn't work?
[07:51] <Zotnix> Anyone here using breezy that wants to try to duplicate it?
[07:51] <pundai> hey i dont seem to be able to apt-get xchat-systray even though i'm using universe
[07:52] <Alcor_> lakcaj: dmesg give me shitload of scsi errors :/
[07:53] <pundai> heyllo anyone know why i cant install some packages that are in universe, i've enabled them in the repositories dialog
[07:53] <dalamar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1901 now thats a desktop ;)
[07:54] <helenka> Is there a possibility to get alsaconf installed? Can't find it anywhere and I have alsa-utils installed...please can anybody help?
[07:54] <Maikeru> Hey
[07:54] <Maikeru> If I get a card that is texas instruments
[07:54] <Maikeru> -will it work-
[07:54] <Maikeru> on linux
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that is awsome
[07:54] <Zotnix> Hehe
[07:54] <Maikeru> or what stuff do I need?
[07:54] <Maikeru> What drivers?
[07:54] <lakcaj> Alcor_, I've had problems with my external usb dvd burner.  I had to try different kernels to get it to work.  I'm actually on a debian sarge machine, and 2.6.8 is a POS with this drive.  2.6.11 seemed to work much better
[07:54] <Maikeru> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=319673&pfp=srch1
[07:54] <Maikeru> I need to know if that'll work
[07:54] <lakcaj> Maikeru, you don't need to press enter after every 3 words!
[07:54] <Zotnix> Anyone on Ubuntu Breezy... when you open the gnome-theme-manager does metacity disappear and reload? Not sure if it is crashing or what.
[07:54] <Maikeru> cause I can get it for $10 today
[07:55] <zblach> hi
[07:55] <lakcaj> Maikeru, go try googling it, obviosly nobody in here knows
[07:55] <Maikeru> lakcaj, sorry, habbit...I am trying to get done
[07:55] <Maikeru> cause I have to leave now
[07:55] <Zotnix> okay
[07:55] <Maikeru> so I can get back to cook dinner tonight
[07:55] <Zotnix> Odd... now it isn't doing it.
[07:55] <zblach> anyone here a networking guru?
[07:57] <chrismy> hey all
[07:57] <dalamar> there may be info on the card on linuxhardware.org or something similar as well
[07:59] <vegalabs> zblach: would you like my output for iwconfig and ifconfig
[08:01] <DVSoftware> hello
[08:01] <DVSoftware> after upgrading to breezy my usb hard drive isn't automaticaly detected anymore
[08:02] <DVSoftware> can this be fixed somehow?
[08:02] <vices> i'm having some troulbes installing the JRE
[08:02] <dalamar> yeah run a stable version of ubuntu
[08:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:02] <DVSoftware> dalamar: if i wanted to use stable version, i would use it
[08:03] <znh> ehm.. why is proftpd hanging after logging in?
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> NEW FOAMY ^_^ goto www.illwillpress.com
[08:03] <pundai> hey is this host ok http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[08:03] <djur> to the dude who just gave me the USB keyboard module name..   you rock.
[08:03] <pundai> for sources.list
[08:03] <znh> pundai: backports != not good
[08:03] <vices> !forums
[08:03] <dalamar> well things will be broken then
[08:03] <pundai> znh, != not good?
[08:03] <DVSoftware> i like bleeding edge ;)
[08:03] <djur> For some reason ubuntu does not have a USB keyboard module in /etc/modules
[08:03] <djur> so after the first boot...  USB keyboards stop working.
[08:03] <helenka> please where can I find alsaconf?
[08:04] <znh> pundai: backports are bad.. they are useless
[08:04] <fivetwentysix> Who wants to help me get my usb sound working???
[08:04] <fivetwentysix> :-(
[08:04] <pundai> znh, ok
[08:05] <dalamar> I find the 'large' ubuntu mouse icons are pretty damn small ;)
[08:05] <pundai> so youre saying dont use it
[08:05] <bur[n] er> fivetwentysix: check wiki first?
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even though i have backports in my list i have them commented out there only usefull for some things
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> otherwize they seem to break things in the os
[08:05] <disasm> djur: i thought hotplug handled the usbkbd module, but echo usbkbd >> /etc/modules will do the trick
[08:05] <pundai> what are backports for ubuntu
[08:05] <fivetwentysix> Hmm Good idea
[08:05] <znh> pundai: it is a place were you can fetch really new software, but they may contain bugs/errors
[08:06] <shinu> is there any alternative to k3b?
[08:06] <pundai> ah
[08:06] <DVSoftware> shinu: there are many alternatives
[08:06] <pundai> znh, how often do the normal archives get updated
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and you should use them only if you have to otherwize avoid them like the plauge
[08:06] <dalamar> k3b is the best! but there's gnomebaker, cmdline, lots of stuff
[08:06] <znh> pundai: very often, when the new archives are stable they will be added by the default places
[08:06] <DVSoftware> and yeah
[08:06] <pundai> k3b > *
[08:06] <shinu> DVSoftware: any examples please?
[08:06] <pundai> znh, ok
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> dalamar: i have to agree k3b is the best
[08:06] <DVSoftware> i can't install vlc in breezy
[08:07] <DVSoftware> :S
[08:07] <shinu> see
[08:07] <pundai> i had just added those mirrors to sources.list and ubuntu told me there are upgrades
[08:07] <Zotnix> The next release of Ubuntu after breezy should be called Bashing Butterfly please (Nice MSN reference)
[08:07] <pundai> but since there were upgrades to libgcc i was kind of wary
[08:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats why you don't use breezy cause stuff is broken it's ok to be cutting edge though but not at the cost of functionality
[08:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:08] <dalamar> breezy will be nice for the new libc version for sure, I've run into a few programs requiring a new version now, ie newest gtkpod
[08:08] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i guess it will be fixed soon
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that should be the next release name ^_^
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i hope so i can't waite to use it
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Microsoft Windows: A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
[08:08] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: when is release date for breezy?
[08:08] <fivetwentysix> Closest match I cound find related to my problem is Plantronics USB Headset Control bur[n] er
[08:08] <dalamar> im chomping at the bit too but everything works now so im not about to change anything ;)
[08:08] <dalamar> october 13th
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think in october
[08:09] <Zotnix> October
[08:09] <Zotnix> Yeah
[08:09] <aznam> rebonjour
[08:09] <znh> anyone experienced with proftpd?
[08:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> all i have to say is an os like ubuntu is long overdue
[08:10] <dalamar> its the goods, thats for sure, best non-ms desktop os i've ever seen
[08:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and yes if they did charge for it i would pay ^_^ just becuase it's better and more secure than microsoft stuff
[08:10] <bur[n] er> fivetwentysix: i'm honestly not familiar with using usb sound on anything... sorry
[08:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yes ubuntu absolutely rocks beyond any thing i have ever seen
[08:10] <znh> when I am trying to log on proftpd I am getting many 'operation not permitted' in the servers log
[08:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:10] <dalamar> id pay
[08:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i would just because of how good it is
[08:10] <dalamar> as long as it wasnt a 100-some dollars
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> of course not
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they should make it like $q0
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> $10
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[08:11] <|ee> hola
[08:11] <dalamar> id pay a good 20 at least
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea
[08:11] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i've used mandrake, then slackware, and i think  i'll stick to ubuntu
[08:11] <chrismy> hula hoop
[08:11] <|ee> como hago para que el webadmin se pueda ejecutar desde una makina remota?
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> =-O
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed some other distros and have come to this conclusion
[08:12] <dalamar> i switched from fc4 to ubuntu, the diferences are quite alot
[08:12] <DVSoftware> |ee: #ubuntu-es
[08:12] <DVSoftware> :D
[08:12] <fivetwentysix> someone help me
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> gentoo is for rocket scientists and computer geeks with way to much time on there hands
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mandrake is ok to use but slightly hard to get used to
[08:12] <linukso> Hi! Is anyone using gajim with hoary? I could only find a package for breezy...
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> redhat just costs way to much
[08:12] <fivetwentysix> imtrying to get my C-Media USB Headphone Set to work
[08:12] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: mandrake is crap, slow as ass
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:13] <DVSoftware> suse is even slower
[08:13] <DVSoftware> linukso: gajim?
[08:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu now theres a reason why it's number one on all distro watch boards
[08:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's fast works out of the box compilation times are awsomely short
[08:13] <|ee> DVSoftware,  thanx
[08:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it can play games and burn cd's serf the inet outta the box
[08:13] <bur[n] er> anyone able to get kqemu compiled??
[08:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and is the linux gnu(b)s heavin
[08:14] <linukso> DVSoftware: jabber client written in pygtk
[08:14] <DVSoftware> use gaim damnit
[08:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nothing not even windows xp or longhorn can even come close to touching what ubuntu can do
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and on top of that you own the software not some 2 bit company that dosen't give a crap about you and only cares for your money
[08:15] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: go rant on a website to build publicity... chances are most people here feel the same way ;)
[08:15] <bur[n] er> then encourage it for use in schools ;)
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol i would if i could get away with most of my rants that one was toned down alot a whole lot
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> actually i have a freind who's the technology director for the schools in my aria
[08:16] <DVSoftware> i've given away all my ubuntu cds
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i already gave him a copy
[08:16] <DVSoftware> just left one copy for me ;)
[08:16] <linukso> DVSoftware: thats not what I asked...
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and there testing it on pc's and macs in various parts of the school districr
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> district even >.<
[08:17] <DVSoftware> linukso: why don't you download it from their official site
[08:17] <DVSoftware> and install it
[08:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and to be honist i don't ever plug something i don't belve in ^_^ and ubuntu is something i'll gladly plug any time ^_^
[08:17] <dalamar> i like cheese, i'd plug that
[08:17] <linukso> DVSoftware: thats what I am doing, just wanted to ask if someone had a package first...
[08:17] <dalamar> cheese on anything makes it better ;)
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea ^_^
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu cheesy edition ^_^
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[08:18] <dalamar> well thats sounds bad but i'd appreciate it haha
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok ubuntu cheezy breezy edition?
[08:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm doing a free software day thing in my town and ubuntu is gonna be the showcase
[08:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have 300 cd (hopefully) coming to me
[08:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i've advertised the event too
[08:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i hope people show up
[08:20] <BeFalou> hi there
[08:20] <aru> offer hash brownies
[08:20] <dalamar> haha
[08:20] <dalamar> 'mm .. linux'
[08:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> aru you know i was thinking of doing that
[08:20] <DVSoftware> hm
[08:20] <aru> I figured you were :)
[08:21] <DVSoftware> linukso: there should be gajim package
[08:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cept i'd have to through some shrooms in there for the awsome screensavers it comes with
[08:21] <DVSoftware> in universe
[08:21] <DVSoftware> !info gajim
[08:21] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[08:21] <DVSoftware> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/81-Gajim-The-PSI-on-Gnome.html
[08:21] <linukso> DVSoftware: Thats what it says on the website, but apt-cache doesn't agree :), neither do packages.ubuntu.com
[08:21] <DVSoftware> strange
[08:22] <mirak> hi
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shit just the screensavers ubuntu comes with are worth it
[08:22] <linukso> it will be there in breezy, but not hoary
[08:22] <mirak> Xine on ubuntu breezy crash when you do a right click
[08:22] <korio> does anyone know of any alternative repos? wich have software wich is more up to date..
[08:22] <FibreOptic> Hey ppl. Any suggestions on cd burning pkgs?
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh speaking of screensavers how do i install the screensavers that don't come as default with ubuntu?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> !tell korio about backports
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to get them?
[08:23] <FibreOptic> korio: I could copy you my repo file
[08:23] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: search synaptic for screensaver
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can do the same
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[08:23] <FibreOptic> actually :) that works too.
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if you want i can pastebin my intire sources.list
[08:24] <korio> thx FibreOptic but bur[n] er told me
[08:24] <FibreOptic> CofF: You have a better one than the list in the wiki?
[08:24] <fivetwentysix> YESSSSS
[08:24] <fivetwentysix> My sound works!!!!&$&$#&#$&#&
[08:24] <fivetwentysix> awesome
[08:24] <korio> cool ^^
[08:24] <FibreOptic> 526: awesome :) way to go
[08:25] <fivetwentysix> its cuz my soundcard was connected through my keyboard usb ports
[08:25] <bur[n] er> fivetwentysix: good work :)
[08:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> here is my sources.list hope this helps someone
[08:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/354559
[08:25] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[08:25] <FibreOptic> 526: hmm...unorthodox setup i guess :) but...whatever works eh?
[08:25] <fivetwentysix> yeah
[08:25] <korio> heh I have been trying to run Ubuntu but couldnt connect ot the net but then I switched network card and it worked ;D
[08:25] <fivetwentysix> i had all my 4 usb ports being used
[08:26] <fivetwentysix> so i had to switch my mouse
[08:26] <fivetwentysix> to use the green thing
[08:26] <BeFalou> xrgb is broken? It can't be installed because of xutils...
[08:26] <fivetwentysix> wow
[08:26] <fivetwentysix> 24 usb ports?
[08:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea mostly usb 2.0 hubs and a few 2.0 cards by belkin
[08:26] <FibreOptic> 526: yeah. it's always best to plug tempeamental things like that on a direct line, free of any external hubs
[08:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can get usb 2.0 cards up here for $12.99 a pop
[08:27] <FibreOptic> So, any ideas on cd-burning packages? Something good for Data and Music.
[08:28] <FibreOptic> oh...something that works in GDM too :)
[08:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was surprised that ubuntu knew how to run a riser board
[08:28] <fivetwentysix> i use a zboard
[08:28] <fivetwentysix> im happy it works on linux hehe
[08:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i ran outta pci slots so i bought a riser board to make more pci slots
[08:28] <FibreOptic> CofF: ubuntu the distro i've had the best luck with so far
[08:28] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: works in gdm??
[08:28] <kspath> I had a 3-head ubuntu linux machine   3x1600x1200 24bit  but 3 CRTs using 100Watts each was too much
[08:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow nice
[08:29] <FibreOptic> burner: gnome desktop :)
[08:29] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: use synaptic and search for 'cd burning' you'll find graveman & gnomebaker
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want to get my dual monitors to work but i'm not hsure how
[08:29] <fivetwentysix> i bet monitors will one day connect through usb ports
[08:29] <midk> can anyone tell me how to adjust GRUB settings? (specifically the default boot OS)
[08:29] <bur[n] er> gdm is not gnome desktop.... gdm == the login manager based on gtk
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no if they do something like that they should use firewire
[08:29] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: usb is the stupidest thing ever invented
[08:29] <bur[n] er> midk: system -> administration -> boot
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's faster though proprietary
[08:29] <FibreOptic> burn: you like those the best eh? thanks for the input :) aah...i have my acronyms scrambled
[08:29] <fivetwentysix> DVSoftware, why is that?
[08:30] <FibreOptic> i thought that was gnome desktop manager
[08:30] <midk> bur[n] er, checked all the menus.. i don't have a "boot" option..
[08:30] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: k3b is a kde app, but works just fine in gnome
[08:30] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: usb was intended for windoze
[08:30] <fivetwentysix> so?
[08:30] <bur[n] er> midk: install gnome-system-tools
[08:30] <FibreOptic> burn: yeah I have kde libs installed anyway.
[08:30] <korio> um how are we supposed to change sources.list when we cant login as root?
[08:30] <midk> is there a file i can edit instead? just wanna adjust this quickly..
[08:30] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: so lot of usb devices won't work on linux
[08:30] <bur[n] er> midk: /etc/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <bur[n] er> midk: i lied.... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <fivetwentysix> so why is it the stupidest thing ever invented?
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone hear about the plug and play virus that affects all microsoft oses?
[08:31] <bur[n] er> korio: sudo
[08:31] <midk> bur[n] er, haha, thanks, i'll give it a shot :)
[08:31] <bur[n] er> !tell korio about sudo
[08:31] <korio> bur[n] er, im not changing it throug the console
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's suposed to be really nasty
[08:31] <bur[n] er> korio: gksudo
[08:31] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: yep... i hate windoze
[08:31] <FibreOptic> burn: thanks for that.
[08:31] <fivetwentysix> Why?
[08:32] <bur[n] er> korio: changing through synaptic already uses gksudo
[08:32] <DVSoftware> cos its crap
[08:32] <fivetwentysix> There's nothing wrong with Windows.
[08:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the sarah lee bakery got hit with it and it took down there whole network
[08:32] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: no problem
[08:32] <bur[n] er> all starting with the windows registry
[08:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no theres nothing wrong with windows......except for the fact that it makes you stupid can get viruses easy crashes all the time you don't own it and it costs 200 dollars more than it's worth and heavin forbid if your warrenty runs out then it $60 a tech call
[08:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but no theres nothing wrong with it
[08:33] <FibreOptic> Anyone have luck installing MS_Office using crossover?
[08:33] <Ng> FibreOptic: yep
[08:34] <FibreOptic> i need me MS_Access :)
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> You guys are all the same
[08:34] <FibreOptic> and...that's all i need from it :P
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> No respect for competitors
[08:34] <Ng> FibreOptic: ah, I've only used it for word, excel and powerpoint
[08:34] <FibreOptic> ng: i get those with Openoffice...and i prefer that
[08:34] <Ng> Access is untouchable ;)
[08:34] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: when competitors will respect linux, then we will respect them
[08:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> correction you microsoft endorsers are all the same no respect for compettitors or small businesses
[08:34] <risko> hi
[08:34] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: i got word & excel to work, but outlook failed miserably
[08:34] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: not sure about access
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> They don't have a problem with Linux
[08:35] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[08:35] <midk> bur[n] er, "/boot/grub/menu.lst can't open file for writing"
[08:35] <kspath> I would not use MS Access for logical reasons
[08:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> which would explane why things like lotus 123 don't exist anymore
[08:35] <FibreOptic> bur[n] er: that's okay...cause I prefer Evolution better than Outlook :)
[08:35] <fivetwentysix> Microsoft uses linux themselves
[08:35] <bur[n] er> midk: edit it as root silly
[08:35] <risko> hi all
[08:35] <fivetwentysix> in their work places
[08:35] <midk> haha.. argh, it's been a while... :)
[08:35] <bur[n] er> FibreOptic: can't work in exchange from evolution all that well
[08:35] <bur[n] er> it works, but barely
[08:35] <Ng> FibreOptic: I use OpenOffice in preference, but sometimes I just need MS Office :/
[08:36] <BeFalou> I'm trying to dist-upgrade but it fails with xrgb because /usr/bin/showrgb is in xutils, is there any fix?
[08:36] <bur[n] er> no caching, no colors for calendar, etc
[08:36] <bur[n] er> and there isn't a great linux groupware solution yet
[08:36] <fivetwentysix> Why would you need groupware?
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> how would i go about setting up a network link between two ubuntu machines so that i can jsut transfre files direct from one to the other?
[08:36] <bur[n] er> BeFalou: you could force overwrite, but be wary
[08:36] <FibreOptic> bur[n] er: I'm not much into the groupware aspect. I have my schedule, my emails....and it seems to do what i want it to
[08:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if microsoft changed its business practises and was more competitor freindly and diden't charge people $200 for a peace of plasic with a licence that the end user dosen't own then maybe i'll change my views of it
[08:36] <bur[n] er> fivetwentysix: to operate a business? :)
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> also can i use downloaded packages on one to update the other? where does apt store the packages?
[08:36] <fivetwentysix> oh
[08:36] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: well they are using linux in labs, where they are stealing ideas from hundreds of opensource developers
[08:36] <midk> bur[n] er, there we go.. thx again. :)
[08:37] <BeFalou> bur[n] er: ok, thx
[08:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know the buggers
[08:37] <bur[n] er> midk: you're very welcome
[08:37] <bur[n] er> BeFalou: also welcome
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> DVSoftware, well that's the problem with being open source
[08:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's becuase microsoft is now just realizing that linux might be a serious threat to the way they do things
[08:38] <FibreOptic> OoF: OH NO! God forbid someone trample their fiefdom!
[08:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and if they want to servive the next few decades there gonna have to be cheap and steal ideas from real programs
[08:38] <fivetwentysix> Not really, Microsoft is giving room for Linux, by giving Windows XP more of a gaming operating system
[08:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> programmers even
[08:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know what i play most of my games in linux with out much problem
[08:39] <DVSoftware> me too
[08:39] <fivetwentysix> I can't
[08:39] <poningru> yeah me neither
[08:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i could give a crap less what low tacktics that microsoft uses
[08:39] <DVSoftware> i'm playing GTA SA now
[08:39] <risko> but i cannot play Soldier of Fortune 2 in linux (native)
[08:39] <matthew_w> Anyone know how to set up TV OUT support in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do you guys use transgamings cedega?
[08:39] <fivetwentysix> I don't know how to install my ati drivers
[08:39] <poningru> matthew_w: what vid card?
[08:39] <poningru> fivetwentysix: you probably cant but search through the wiki
[08:39] <matthew_w> poningru; Nvidia GeForce 2 - already installed the drivers.
[08:39] <poningru> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[08:40] <FibreOptic> CoF: wow...dude. That's some repo list you have
[08:40] <poningru> matthew_w: just boot up your comp with the tv out plugged in
[08:40] <poningru> it should detect and work
[08:40] <DVSoftware> fivetwentysix: what i hate most at microsoft
[08:40] <DVSoftware> is closed source
[08:41] <DVSoftware> they could steal source from many opensource apps
[08:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my system specs: amd xp 1800+ 256MB pc 3200 100gig sata drive an nvidia dual head 4000mx with tv out and an 8x agp gigabit ethernet connected to a 5mb/s download(cable modem) with a 128mb upload
[08:41] <korio> when i try to add a repository though synaptec it doesnt show up inte the list
[08:41] <CookedGryphon> how would i go about setting up a network link between two ubuntu machines so that i can jsut transfre files direct from one to the other? anyone?
[08:41] <slibs> can i open applications like azureus in "screen" so if i reset x, they won't shutdown?
[08:41] <DVSoftware> and nobody would even notice
[08:41] <poningru> there was this girl named dreamie here any one know where she went?
[08:41] <matthew_w> poningru; I've done this for days.  lol
[08:41] <poningru> matthew_w: hmm dont know then
[08:41] <mirak> crap
[08:41] <mirak> again this firefox bug
[08:41] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[08:41] <poningru> cause my ati 320 works like that
[08:41] <DVSoftware> his windows crashed
[08:41] <DVSoftware> [20:41:40]  fivetwentysix [n=fivetwen@n219078247239.netvigator.com]  has quit IRC: Remote closed the connection
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i play counterstrile 1.5 1.6 half life WoW GuildWars condition zero battlefield 1942 and vietnam
[08:42] <mpm2> I typically use gaim, but am using Xchat atm, can anyone tell me how to display the list of users in-channel in the xchat window?
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the only thing i haven't gotten to run in linux is ragnarok and x-fire
[08:42] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i would like to play guildwars, but i don't have money to buy it :cry:
[08:42] <DVSoftware> :(
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i knoe
[08:42] <kspath> I realize that many people will not give up MS because of games. I simply gave up gaming because I have a family and gaming can eat up your time/life
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's pricy i bought mine from ebay
[08:43] <korio> when i try to add a repository though synaptec it doesnt show up inte the list
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brand new seald in the box for 15 dollars
[08:43] <DVSoftware> w00t
[08:43] <poningru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what did you get?
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh hell yea it rocks
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> GuildWars
[08:43] <dalamar> cedega actually works really well though, even if its not native-run gaming
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea it's awsome
[08:43] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: is there some more?
[08:43] <poningru> you have to pay for cedega
[08:43] <poningru> so dont think so
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea search ebay for Guild Wars
[08:44] <poningru> monthly even
[08:44] <poningru> so no
[08:44] <DVSoftware> poningru: i didn't paid it
[08:44] <DVSoftware> :D
[08:44] <dalamar> its incredibly cheap
[08:44] <poningru> DVSoftware: how?
[08:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i pay for cedega and it's worth every penny
[08:44] <DVSoftware> you want it?
[08:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what war craft?
[08:44] <dalamar> if you cant afford 15 dollars for 3 months i really feel sorry for you
[08:45] <graabein> i am having problems with the wep-key for my wireless network... any suggestions? the password is just numbers...
[08:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i beleve that because of cedega ubuntu has more than proved it's self as a worthy gaming distro
[08:45] <bobert> how would I unload alsa's hw:0 address so something else may use it?
[08:45] <DVSoftware> dalamar: i can afford it
[08:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just instead of using ati (theres nothing wrong with ati mind you) use nvidia it seems to work better with linux
[08:45] <FibreOptic> have we all had lessons in proper linux pronounciation? /etc is pronounced ET-see, and TTY is pronounced titty. thank you.
[08:45] <DVSoftware> but i can't pay it
[08:45] <FibreOptic> there's gotta be more out there :) throw em out if you think of em
[08:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> DVSoftware:  you should it's worth every penny
[08:46] <pepsi> whats wrong with Tee Tee Why?
[08:46] <DVSoftware> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i really can't
[08:46] <DVSoftware> because i don't have credit card
[08:46] <Dragon513> helloo
[08:46] <FibreOptic> pepsi: well, you could :) but it's not nearly as cool
[08:46] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: assuming you don't have a shitty ati video card that is
[08:46] <Dragon513> it's Sunday
[08:46] <korio> can anyone help me add repositories to apt-get?
[08:46] <Dragon513> and I wanna watch a movie..
[08:46] <bobert> ooh, korio I just had a link to that
[08:46] <bobert> lemmie get it
[08:46] <bur[n] er> korio: check wiki?
[08:46] <Dragon513> but...divx movies looks bad on Ubuntu...
[08:47] <dalamar> !repos
[08:47] <korio> it just doesnt add to the list
[08:47] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:47] <bobert> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:47] <CookedGryphon> where does apt store downloaded packages? could i get all the packages from one computer and install them on another easily wihtout having to download them again?
[08:47] <Dragon513> can anyone help me out...? movie quality bad....
[08:47] <bur[n] er> !tell korio about repositories
[08:47] <FibreOptic> korio: http://pastebin.com/354559
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Dragon513: use xine?
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Dragon513: apt-get install totem-xine
[08:47] <FibreOptic> korio: that's a wicked one CofO just gave me. it's awesome
[08:47] <dalamar> CookedGryphon, doubtful, it does a 'clean' after install removing the archives
[08:47] <Dragon513> bur[n] er: i did...
[08:48] <CookedGryphon> okay, thanks anyway
[08:48] <Dragon513> movies look bad no matter the players..
[08:48] <FibreOptic> CofF...pardonez moi
[08:48] <bur[n] er> Dragon513: and fine in windows?
[08:48] <Dragon513> yap
[08:48] <bur[n] er> Dragon513: very odd, mine look good
[08:48] <Dragon513> look all good in Windows..
[08:48] <CookedGryphon> can anyone tell me how to directly link 2 ubuntu computers togetehr and send files direct from one to another
[08:48] <dalamar> well its divx what o you expect ;)
[08:48] <CookedGryphon> ?>
[08:48] <korio> ithanks FibreOptic
[08:48] <korio> thanks*
[08:48] <pepsi> CookedGryphon, ethernet
[08:48] <CookedGryphon> em, thanks
[08:48] <topyli> erm. how do you install rhythmbox plugins? the audioscrobbler plugin from last.fm?
[08:48] <CookedGryphon> how do i set it u[p?
[08:49] <slibs> how can i open program to another X ?
[08:49] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: crossover cable & network cards?
[08:49] <CookedGryphon> got
[08:49] <slibs> or is it even possible?
[08:49] <bur[n] er> slibs: ssh -X
[08:49] <CookedGryphon> all set up and plugged in, now what do i do?
[08:49] <poningru> CookedGryphon: any connection to mconnor/Lucy?
[08:49] <Dragon513> dalamar: but..they look better in Windows..
[08:49] <CookedGryphon> who now?
[08:49] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: crossover?
[08:49] <pepsi> CookedGryphon, setup an nfs or smb share
[08:49] <CookedGryphon> how do i do that?
[08:49] <dalamar> dunno, i dont deal with divx
[08:49] <matthew_w> My mplayer crashes whenever I try to open a video file - why?
[08:49] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: set ips to 192.168.0.1 & 192.168.0.2 with 192.168.0.1 as the gateway on both
[08:50] <lakcaj> Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html
[08:50] <Dragon513> matthew_w i have exact same problem;
[08:50] <FibreOptic> korio: no prob dude...just sharing the wealth
[08:50] <seife> can i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?
[08:50] <FibreOptic> Okay...here's question of the day. When i want to run programs as root, i want to use the (different) root password instead of my own. Is there a way to fix that?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: packages are in /var/apt/archives/
[08:51] <seife> can i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> vmware is not free
[08:51] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, sorry but i've never tried this net thing b4, how do i do that?
[08:51] <CookedGryphon> aoh and thank 4 that too
[08:51] <matthew_w> Is there some solution to this mplayer problem?  I'm quite sure I have all applicable plugins/drivers.
[08:51] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: do you have a router by chance?
[08:52] <CookedGryphon> i ujstu have a cat5 cable, that i kno works cos i can share windows machines with it
[08:52] <seife> can i have 3 hd connected with different OS and choose wich to join?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: crossover?
[08:52] <CookedGryphon> yeah,
[08:52] <bur[n] er> ok
[08:52] <bur[n] er> how did you set the ips in windows?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> do the same thing in ubuntu
[08:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seife yes as long as xp is on the first hard drive as the first partition
[08:52] <CookedGryphon> lol it was a wizard
[08:53] <CookedGryphon> i dunno the technicalities of what it did
[08:53] <bur[n] er> system -> administration -> networking
[08:53] <CookedGryphon> okay
[08:53] <seife> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there are no partitions, three apart HDs
[08:53] <seife> first and second are xp hds
[08:53] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: set ips to 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 & both gateways to 192.168.0.1
[08:53] <FibreOptic> CofF: I just got a TON of errors with that new repo list
[08:53] <seife> the third is the ubuntu one, i would like to connect it as second win xp HD slave.
[08:53] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: then use samba (or nfs) and share files... then from the other one do smb://192.168.0.1
[08:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok xp on the first ubuntu on the second and ect ect on the third
[08:53] <CookedGryphon> i domn't see ips
[08:54] <seife> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntu cant be on third?
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and don't forget that you can have multiple oses as long as xp is first on the hd
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes it can
[08:54] <bobert> XP doesnt care if it's the first
[08:54] <bur[n] er> xp doesn't have to be first silly
[08:54] <bobert> that was the dos era
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu can be where ever your putting it
[08:54] <bur[n] er> so can xp
[08:54] <CookedGryphon> oh i think i have got it..
[08:54] <bur[n] er> it just has to be on a primary partition instead of a logical
[08:54] <seife> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the ID2 goes to second HD, then the cable has another port wich ill plug to ubuntu disk, can i do that?
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what every time i have put xp on a second partition it woulden't work for ne
[08:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think so yes
[08:55] <Xorlev> XP bootloader gets pissed if its not on the primary drive, so you have to trick it.
[08:55] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: has to be marked as boot and on a primary partition
[08:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok thats what i though
[08:55] <Xorlev> Partition doesn't matter though as long as its marked as boot and active.
[08:56] <seife> ChurcH_of_FoamY: dont understand what bur[n] er said.
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i thought no matter what xp and windows 98 partitions have to be on the front part of the hard drive
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i think he was saying that you can put the oses on any partition as long as the partition is made bootable and is a primary partition
[08:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bur[n] er: am i right?
[08:57] <majikstreet> wtf was that?!?!!?
[08:57] <majikstreet> why did i get hicked
[08:57] <majikstreet> oh shit wrong channel
[08:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um becuase your a red neck or you fooded the chat room
[08:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ie hicked
[08:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[08:58] <iveqy> Hi, how to change charset from utf8 to iso-8859-10 in the console?
[08:59] <FibreOptic> korio: better yet, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list in nano using a root shell
[08:59] <FibreOptic> korio: cause...gedit does funky things to it
[09:00] <lakcaj> iveqy, try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO!how can i set tar to compress one partition?
[09:01] <iveqy> lakcaj thx :D
[09:01] <shammy> what video player can i use to play wmv's?
[09:02] <iveqy> shammy mplayer
[09:02] <Belutz> lakcaj: what's that for, sorry, just joining
[09:02] <iveqy> shammy www.mplayer.hu
[09:02] <bur[n] er> shammy: totem... assuming you have w32codecs package
[09:02] <lakcaj> Belutz, just changes the system locales, ie utf-8, etc
[09:02] <Belutz> lakcaj: ic, thx fot informing :)
[09:03] <Belutz> *for
[09:03] <lakcaj> np
[09:03] <FibreOptic> mah.....he left before i could tell him to run apt-get update, after he puts the new sources in. ahh, he's a bright lad. should figure it out
[09:03] <shammy> Thanks guys, i'm installed the codecs
[09:03] <iveqy> lakcaj still not working, do I need to restart anything?
[09:04] <Alex_BO> HELLO!how can i set tar to compress one partition?
[09:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the bottle is loosing
[09:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[09:05] <auk> did he give you any of his spiced rum yet?
[09:05] <Alex_BO> can somebody help me?
[09:05] <digitalgraffiti> hey
[09:05] <Itangast> Hello all. How can i get ubunto to boot from a disk which is not accessible as a boot device in the BIOS? (e.g. by install-cd boot parameters)
[09:06] <digitalgraffiti> I need some help installing drivers for my sb live 24bit in ubuntu
[09:06] <CarlFK> Installing hoary on a compaq armada 1700 laptop that is running on AC.  it gets past the eject cd, rebot, starts doing stuff, I walk away.  I come back, it is off.  this has happened 2 times now.  muy guess is the CPU fan isn't being turned on.  anyone have any ideas?
[09:07] <digitalgraffiti> the cpu fan might be the problem
[09:07] <yaul> i have a problem with realplayer. it doesnt do anything, with or without a file argument. i looked in the wiki and it says to remove the flash plugins from its install dir, but i can't find those. does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[09:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> auk: hey yea he did
[09:07] <digitalgraffiti> if it's turning off on it's own and you know the cpu fan isn't turning on it might be an overheating issue
[09:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> he's bleeding it
[09:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[09:07] <irbdavid> hiya, i'm trying to follow this howto here: http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php to get me wireless working.  no gcc on ubuntu though?
[09:07] <CarlFK> digitalgraffiti - any clue how to tell it to turn the fan on?
[09:07] <digitalgraffiti> replace it
[09:07] <auk> ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://internoodle.net/page/16/
[09:07] <auk> *: *
[09:08] <digitalgraffiti> send it in for repair
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea can ubuntu monitor the computer temps and fan speeds
[09:08] <kandoora_> has anyone heard of autopackage
[09:08] <CarlFK> digitalgraffiti - the fan works.  I know older linux kernels needed a patch to turn it on
[09:08] <lakcaj> iveqy, likely have to restart the terminal for sure
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> auk that is so awsome
[09:08] <auk> lol
[09:09] <CarlFK> maybe if I stick a fan next to the case untill it is done installing.
[09:09] <kandoora_> go to http://autopackage.org
[09:09] <digitalgraffiti> sorry Carl
[09:09] <digitalgraffiti> I didn't know about the patch you mentioned
[09:10] <digitalgraffiti> can anyone help me with my drivers?
[09:10] <bobert> where would I get /dev/snd/seq?
[09:10] <elec> has anyone instaled ubuntu in a COMPAQ R4012 ?
[09:11] <iveqy> lakcaj still fucked up, doesn't matter if I choose utf8 or iso** still don't got my special chars
[09:11] <digitalgraffiti> I have an SB Live 24bit ..I want to use the emu10k1 drivers but I just need some help to get them installed as modules
[09:12] <shinu> how can i delete a block of text at once in vi?
[09:13] <kevin06> Was everyone unregged because of the massive spamming?
[09:13] <lakcaj> iveqy, well, I'm not sure how to help you with that.  What does the locale command say?  Is it reflecting the changes you made?
[09:14] <iveqy> lakcaj yes, it makes me choose the locales to generate and then choose a systemwide locale to use. After that it's generating locales
[09:14] <silvan> hi - i have tryed to use the ipw2200 module (1.0.6) for my intel pro wlan card (including upgraded firmware to 2.3) - driver loads fine bug i can't get a dhcp lease - anyone encountered similar problems?
[09:14] <DJWillis> CarlFK: If you can install off AC done those old Armada laptops have an option in the BIOS partition to keep the fan on when on AC. Assuming you still have the BIOS config utill (it's on a FAT12 partition at the front of the disk)
[09:14] <lakcaj> iveqy, you don't have anything in .bashrc or .bash_profile that might be over-riding /etc/environment?
[09:15] <kevin06> Alrighty, my real question. I installed the Webmin package, but I am having isues logging in. It asks me for my password and then banns me when I get it wrong 3 times. I tried my root password, my user pasword, tried "root", tried blank, all don't work.
[09:15] <iveqy> lakcaj maybe... I check :)
[09:15] <dalamar> anyone know why the right side of xine gets sketchy and flickers if im in 1600x1200 75 mhz? works fine in 1280x1024 85 mhz, is the refresh change doing it?
[09:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can ubuntu monitor the temps inside the case and the fan speeds?
[09:15] <chrismy> yo anyone knows how to compile xvid from source?
[09:15] <iveqy> lakcaj no :(
[09:15] <CarlFK> ChurcH_of_FoamY - yes
[09:15] <lakcaj> iveqy, besides that, I don't have much experience with special characters, so that's about all I can think of.
[09:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i make it do that?
[09:15] <NoHope> hey, will firefox 1.5 be available when it will be released?
[09:15] <CarlFK> ChurcH_of_FoamY - but only after you have the base system instlled ;)
[09:16] <digitalgraffiti> can anyone help me with a driver install?
[09:16] <lakcaj> NoHope, when it's ready
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have a oil cooled system
[09:16] <CarlFK> ChurcH_of_FoamY - there is a package.  kSensors I think
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i need to monitor the temps and stuff
[09:16] <auk> churchy: overclocker?
[09:16] <iveqy> lakcaj thank you for your help! I will try to find some swedish ubuntu users... :p
[09:16] <NoHope> lakcaj, thx.... nine days, right?
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[09:16] <auk> churchy: you bad person!
[09:16] <lakcaj> iveqy, np.
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and if i get the stuff i saw on tech tv i will be the most hardcore overclocker in the town
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the shit i saw is 200 dollars a gallon
[09:17] <lsuactiafner> how many ide devices will linux detect? i have a pc with 3 cdroms 2 ide and 1 sata
[09:17] <lsuactiafner> and only the sata and cdroms detect
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it a liquid that is non conductive to electricity
[09:17] <lsuactiafner> every ide has its own cable
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i saw them take this 486dx 66 cpu and mother board and over clock it to 1.5Ghz
[09:18] <lakcaj> iveqy, try #debian.se
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and stick it in this liquid motherboard and all
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it ran O_o
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they where playing doom3 on it O_O
[09:18] <iveqy> lakcaj ok :) thanks!
[09:18] <auk> churchy: did you read that irc discussion about asses and arrays? i am proud to say i started it :P
[09:18] <Xplo> hello
[09:18] <auk> HEY, XPLO!!
[09:18] <Xplo> hey auk
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so i'm gonna get my hands on it and try it with my cpu and see what fun i can have
[09:19] <digitalgraffiti> need some help with a driver install here! :)
[09:19] <Xplo> i want to update my kernel, how can i do that?
[09:19] <DJWillis> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Install LMSensors or something similar then use any number of GUI tools to read out the results.
[09:19] <chrismy> anyone?
[09:19] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, you are being way too specific for anyone to answer... try being a little more vague
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok some one help me do that?
[09:20] <DJWillis> lsuactiafner: What IDE control are the other drives on, motherboard or IDE card/controler chip?
[09:20] <digitalgraffiti> I said that I have an SB Live 24Bit ... want to install the emu10k1 drivers but I just would like some help to get that done lakcaj
[09:21] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, sudo modprobe snd_emu10k1
[09:22] <digitalgraffiti> ty
[09:22] <Xplo> anyone know how to update a kernel in ubuntu?
[09:22] <Xplo> or how to install ati drivers?
[09:22] <Xplo> please help
[09:22] <CarlFK> Xplo - wiki.  just a sec
[09:22] <digitalgraffiti> nothing happened lakcaj
[09:22] <Xplo> ok
[09:23] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, what does "lsmod | grep snd" show?
[09:23] <CarlFK> Xplo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:23] <digitalgraffiti> a whole bunch of stuff
[09:23] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, well, those are the modules that are loaded right now.  lsmod = list modules
[09:23] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, modules that start with snd are alsa audio modules
[09:24] <digitalgraffiti> well emu10k1 is listed but I still don't have any sound
[09:24] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, try alsamixer and make sure everything is unmuted and turned up.  If you don't have it, it is in alsa-utils I think.
[09:24] <Quinthius> which audio output is preferrable to use when all 3 work (like in beep-media-player) ... alsa, esd or oss?
[09:25] <theeil> my LAMP server is not working for be but it is for phpmyadmin :S
[09:25] <lakcaj> Why doesn't ubuntu have the alsaconf utility?  Nobody seems to know.  I would just like to know why they removed alsaconf from alsa-utils.
[09:25] <Xplo> thanx CarlFK
[09:25] <Xplo> do you also know how to update the kernel?
[09:25] <digitalgraffiti> nothing is muted lakcaj
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i instastalled ksensors now what?
[09:26] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, to test your card, first try using something like "aplay /usr/share/sounds/some_sound.wav"
[09:26] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, and see if you get an error message
[09:27] <digitalgraffiti> oh I got error messages allright
[09:27] <lsuactiafner> DJWillis : they're on the motherboard
[09:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> omg :O it looks like a motherboard monitor ripoff O_o
[09:27] <digitalgraffiti> would I really be better just reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:28] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, I don't think that should be necessary.
[09:28] <digitalgraffiti> well does ubuntu have the emu10k1 drivers already? I thought it didi
[09:28] <digitalgraffiti> -i
[09:28] <tear> is gnat precompiled in Ubuntu?
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok ksensors dosen't tell me the 2 most important things i need to know cpu and motherboard/case temp and fan speed
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> LSA lib confmisc.c:550:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver return ed error: No such device
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib confmisc.c:387:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned er ror: No such device
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib confmisc.c:945:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there some way to get it to tell me the speed and temp?
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned err or: No such device
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib conf.c:3932:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> ALSA lib pcm.c:2068:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> aplay: main:508: audio open error: No such device
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> oh crap didn't mean to paste all that sorry
[09:29] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, don't flood
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ARGGGHHH SPAM >.<
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> sorry didn't mean to
[09:29] <Paul_BigDaddy> Anyone here have experience 5.04 LiveCD AMD64 & networking problems?
[09:29] <digitalgraffiti> but that's all the error messages I'm getting
[09:29] <ramza3> I am thinking of making a switch from gentoo to ubuntu, what should I be prepared for?  I like gentoo's upgrade system, I haven't had any problems, think I will with ubuntu
[09:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone know how to get ksensors to spit out the cpu tem and fan speed or is there another app that does that?
[09:30] <lakcaj> ramza3, apt > emerge
[09:30] <tear> nevermind, found it
[09:30] <__filip_> have ubuntu better hardware support then debian? have they made somethink whit the system? because my keyboard dont work in debian but it work in ubuntu.
[09:30] <DJWillis> lsuactiafner: going to /msg you as it's a bit crowded in herre ;-)
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> ChurcH_of_FoamY : cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu is debian + 1000
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> for frequency
[09:31] <ramza3> lakcaj: nice...well then
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> but lm_sensors rock
[09:31] <Quinthius> ramza3: ubuntu is a lot more automated and most things seem to "just work" ... there's not much to be "prepared" for it seems
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i need the temprature and fan speed
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know what my cpu is running at
[09:32] <digitalgraffiti> lakcaj ..if I disable my onboard ac'97 in bios would ubuntu install drivers for my sb live sound card on install?
[09:32] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, I'm on a debian sarge machine, which includes the alsaconf utility.  I have no idea why ubuntu got rid of alsaconf, and I can't find anyone who can give me a reason why.
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> almost 4 ghz
[09:32] <digitalgraffiti> oh no
[09:32] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, possibly, I'm not sure
[09:32] <theeil> can someone help me configure perl/cgi/php for LAMP server (phpmyadmin works but i can't get stuff working)
[09:32] <Paul_BigDaddy> no one here has used the LiveCD and had networking problems?
[09:32] <markuman> i have problems to install ubuntu without a cd on a notebook.
[09:33] <digitalgraffiti> lakcaj is there a way I could find out what drivers are included?
[09:33] <markuman> my bootloader option for that are here: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/benutzer:markuman on top
[09:33] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, module = driver in linux.  The snd_emu10k1 module is the driver
[09:33] <theeil> Paul_BigDaddy: what's the networking problem?
[09:33] <markuman> Error 27: unrecognized Command
[09:33] <Xplo> how can i update a kernel for ubuntu
[09:33] <Xplo> anyone?
[09:33] <Xplo> i need to do this man
[09:33] <Xplo> nobody is answering
[09:33] <theeil> Xplo: compile a new one
[09:33] <Xplo> how
[09:33] <lakcaj> Xplo, do you want to compile your own kernel, or download a newer one and install it.
[09:33] <digitalgraffiti> well it's loaded then so I don't have sound due to the lack of alsaconf then?
[09:33] <Paul_BigDaddy> I am using the LiveCD and I cannot find anyway to conect to the internet
[09:33] <lsuactiafner> Xplo : apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[09:34] <Xplo> download and install
[09:34] <Paul_BigDaddy> I tried the sudo pppconfig
[09:34] <Xplo> ok thanx lsuactiafner
[09:34] <Paul_BigDaddy> but all that gave me was a way to setup a dialup connection and not a DSL
[09:34] <Quinthius> Does Synaptic keep a log of packages installed? all i can find is /var/log/aptitude but that seems to be from the initial install
[09:34] <theeil> Paul_BigDaddy: use pppoeconf
[09:34] <Xorlev> I'm having problems with my system...mainly it hard-freezing, which I believe can be attributed to the kernel. Would upgrading my kernel to a breezy kernel help? If so, how would I go about that without upgrading the rest of my system?
[09:34] <expense> is there a way i can chmod a directory to be writeable, but not deletable?
[09:35] <expense> ?
[09:35] <Paul_BigDaddy> oooh....oops
[09:35] <Paul_BigDaddy> shit
[09:35] <Paul_BigDaddy> it's always something simple. Have you noticed that?
[09:35] <jc-denton> will the new ubuntu release include beagle?
[09:35] <theeil> Paul_BigDaddy: ya
[09:36] <Paul_BigDaddy> OK, I am going to try the LiveCD again. Might be back in a bit
[09:36] <Paul_BigDaddy> thanks
[09:36] <Pyf> im using a "sony cav-u5" usb to optical converter for my audio, it works in most programs and ubuntu recognises it
[09:36] <Pyf> but vlc doesnt
[09:36] <Pyf> how can i set it up so it does?
[09:36] <Xanthus7> I thought the command to turn on dma was  hdparm -d /dev/hdb what am I doing wrong
[09:38] <jc-denton> and what pdf viewer will it include
[09:38] <xTina> Hm. Has "Open Terminal" when right-clicking the Gnome desktop been removed in breezy on purpose?!? Or is it just a bug?
[09:38] <lakcaj> expense, if I can write to it, I can replace everything with zeros, which is essentially deleting it.
[09:38] <jc-denton> or better is there already a list with feautures, packages, etc?
[09:39] <benplaut> got an pretty major dilema here...
[09:39] <lakcaj> digitalgraffiti, I really don't know what to say for your problem.  I've been trying to help ubuntu users, since ubuntu is so similar to debian, but one thing that just confuses me is the absence of alsaconf.
[09:39] <benplaut> when i try to start gnome from GDM, it hangs with a blank (GDM background sloid color) screen, with the mouse working
[09:40] <benplaut> and it just stays that way...
[09:41] <lakcaj> Xanthus7, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb
[09:41] <lakcaj> Xanthus7, what you posted just has hdparm show whether or not dma is on
[09:42] <Xanthus7> what is the command to turn it on please
[09:42] <vader1102> <----BBQ time, time for me to go and have some sort of meat!
[09:42] <lakcaj> I just told you, above my last post
[09:42] <lakcaj> Xanthus7, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb
[09:43] <Xanthus7> Got them thank you
[09:44] <expense> is there a way i can chmod a directory to be writeable, but not deletable?
[09:44] <lakcaj> expense, if I can write to it, I can replace everything with zeros, which is essentially deleting it.
[09:46] <theeil> expense: why do you need to do that?
[09:46] <expense> theeil: for an ftp, i want users to be able to upload in an assigned directory
[09:46] <expense> but not be able to delete anything
[09:47] <kenro> Hakuna Matata sahib.
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> that would be a feature of the ftp server - i belive.. not chmod actually
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> NEW FOAMY goto www.illwillpress.com
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> ive seen many ftp servers that hav3e an imcomming dir.
[09:47] <Xorlev> I'm having problems with my system...mainly it hard-freezing, which I believe can be attributed to the kernel. Would upgrading my kernel to a breezy kernel help? If so, how would I go about that without upgrading the rest of my system?
[09:48] <lakcaj> expense, I think what you are looking for is umask.  I found that out from someone in #debian, but I had a hunch that's what it was.
[09:48] <kenro> My first time with ubuntu... Are there alternative repos available for Ubuntu? Could I use any from Debian?
[09:48] <theeil> kenro: sure, it DOES use apt-get
[09:49] <kenro> okie
[09:49] <kenro> theeil: Even apt-get.org?
[09:49] <theeil> kenro: look in the wiki for howto
[09:49] <kenro> okie
[09:50] <mumbles> dose anyone know of a free ftp software that will allow a user to view differ direcotrys on a ubuntu server?
[09:50] <CarlFK> Xorlev - I wouldn't jump that way yet.
[09:51] <CarlFK> reboot, hit Esc when prmoted, pick memtest86+ and let that run for a few passes (may be hours)
[09:51] <chrismy> anyone here knows how to use xvid?
[09:53] <dalamar> anyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh
[09:53] <jc-denton> i checked the wiki but i couldn't find it
[09:53] <kvidell> dalamar: What's your monitor's native resolution?
[09:53] <webby`> HELP! I try to oprn synaptics and I get this error: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[09:54] <webby`> How do I fix this?
[09:54] <dalamar> kvidell, native? i dunno, it goes up to 1600x1200 though for sure
[09:54] <theeil> jc-denton: could not find what?
[09:55] <jc-denton> or better is there already a list with feautures, packages, etc?
[09:55] <jc-denton> err
[09:56] <Paul_BigDaddy> hey, I made it back. Only I am actually in Ubuntu this time
[09:56] <mumbles> dose anyone know of a free ftp software that will allow a user to view differ direcotrys on a ubuntu server?
[09:56] <jc-denton> well i want to know which pdf viewer will be used, if beagle will be included in the next ubuntu release
[09:56] <webby`> HELP! I try to oprn synaptics and I get this error: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[09:56] <webby`> open*
[09:56] <Paul_BigDaddy> mumbles - what about FileZilla?
[09:57] <mumbles> havent tired that
[09:57] <webby`> Nevermind
[09:57] <webby`> I got it working now
[09:57] <Xplo> how can i install my ati drivers?
[09:57] <Paul_BigDaddy> It's made by Mozilla, so you know it's good
[09:57] <DVSoftware> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:57] <Xplo> ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386
[09:58] <Xplo> ok thanx
[09:58] <DVSoftware> No problem
[09:58] <Paul_BigDaddy> Plus, it works similar to their other products
[09:58] <dalamar> anyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh
[09:58] <Xplo> ow ive done that already DVSoftware
[09:58] <Xplo> but i downloaded the drivers from the side myself
[09:58] <Xplo> how can i install those
[09:59] <DVSoftware> read documentation on ati's website
[09:59] <mumbles> pah
[09:59] <mumbles> not working. realy dont want to start up a samba server
[09:59] <hamourabi> hi
[09:59] <thrice`> when is breezy preveiw due ?
[10:00] <hamourabi> need help
[10:00] <thrice`> hamourabi: try asking a question =] 
[10:00] <hamourabi> ok
[10:00] <Xplo> Dsoftware
[10:00] <DVSoftware> ?
[10:00] <Xplo> what do i need to do with the driver i downloaded
[10:00] <Xplo> its a .run file
[10:00] <Paul_BigDaddy> OK, I have a question...how do I tell Ubuntu to mount a drive?
[10:00] <thrice`> sh file.run
[10:01] <hamourabi> i am install realplayer and he put shrtcat in besktop but he don work
[10:01] <Xplo> thanx
[10:01] <DVSoftware> Xplo: for god's sake do not install driver yourself
[10:01] <pcharky> Hi, I've got some problems with my tvcard (pinnacleptctv rave 'saa7134'). The video is quite okay, but the audio is terrible, lots of static. Any suggestions?
[10:01] <thedevilsjester> Ok I am trying to compile wine from source (because I cant seem to add it to my repositories), and I get  "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" error.  Now I dev on this box and I have compiled many apps so my c compiler is just fine
[10:01] <Xplo> ok DVSoftware
[10:01] <thedevilsjester> Anyone know what could be the problem?
[10:01] <DVSoftware> Xplo: use ubuntu packaged driver
[10:02] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:02] <Xplo> i did
[10:02] <Xplo> i used your link
[10:02] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, it cannot find that package
[10:02] <DVSoftware> oh
[10:02] <thedevilsjester> or meta package as it is
[10:02] <DVSoftware> sorry build-essential
[10:02] <DVSoftware> without "s"
[10:02] <Xplo> then i guess its good now?
[10:03] <DVSoftware> Xplo: if you followed wiki page, it should be ok
[10:03] <DVSoftware> !info build-essential
[10:03] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[10:03] <Xplo> ok DVSoftware
[10:03] <hamourabi> thrice?
[10:03] <Xplo> im gonna install Wine Now
[10:03] <Xplo> try to
[10:03] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, still the same error after build essentials is installed
[10:04] <thedevilsjester> I have compiled many apps since install, I know my c compiler is working just fine
[10:04] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[10:04] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: i've compiled wine from source many times
[10:04] <DVSoftware> it should be fine
[10:05] <thedevilsjester> this is during config
[10:05] <pcharky> thedevilsjester: do you have write access in the directory you're compiling in?
[10:05] <Paul_BigDaddy> How do I tell Ubuntu LiveCD to mount a Windows Partition?
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> its not compiling yet
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> its still ./configure
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> I have the log outup
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> output*
[10:06] <Xplo> how can i install wine DVSoftware
[10:06] <pcharky> thedevilsjester: configuring then.
[10:06] <hamourabi> my realplayer dont work
[10:06] <Xplo> i just downloaded it
[10:06] <DVSoftware> Xplo: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:06] <Xplo> ok
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> yes I tried as sudo
[10:06] <thedevilsjester> and as su
[10:06] <K-Rich> ls /- /devhdc1
[10:06] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: did you tried wine_install script ?
[10:07] <thedevilsjester> no where is that gotten?
[10:07] <DVSoftware> in tools directory
[10:07] <Xplo> doesnt work DVSoftware
[10:07] <masterloki> hi there it seems that some repos are broken
[10:07] <thedevilsjester> log says:   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc
[10:07] <thedevilsjester> right before it exits
[10:07] <masterloki> does anybody knows wich do I need to install MPlayer
[10:07] <masterloki> ??
[10:07] <Xplo> packet wine doesnt exist
[10:07] <pcharky> Xplo: apt-cache search wine
[10:08] <hamourabi> any one help me to get my ealplayer work
[10:08] <hamourabi> realplayer*
[10:08] <Paul_BigDaddy> come on, I know someone knows this...mount Windows Partition in Ubuntu
[10:08] <pcharky> Xplo: it's in universe
[10:08] <CarlFK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:08] <Xplo> pcharky, what do u mean
[10:08] <Xplo> the code u gave me doesnt work tho
[10:09] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: reinstall gcc
[10:09] <DVSoftware> it should do the trick
[10:09] <pcharky> Xplo: I mean the wine package is in the universe repository.
[10:09] <DVSoftware> !info wine
[10:09] <Xplo> ok, and how do i install it
[10:09] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[10:09] <pcharky> !repositories
[10:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:09] <Xplo> i downloaded it already,
[10:09] <Xplo> cant i just install it then?
[10:10] <DVSoftware> Xplo: if you downloaded it from winehq.com
[10:10] <DVSoftware> you have to compile it
[10:10] <Xplo> yes i did
[10:10] <Xplo> ok, how
[10:10] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, I found the inital problem (CC isnt set to gcc), dont know where to set that 'for good', but it ran into another (probably related) issue further on
[10:10] <DVSoftware> well, it's long story
[10:10] <DVSoftware> just apt-get it
[10:10] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester:
[10:10] <Xplo> apt-get doesnt work
[10:10] <pcharky> Xplo: better stick to apt (keeps your system nice and tidy).
[10:10] <Xplo> i told you
[10:10] <DVSoftware> set CC to gcc
[10:10] <Puffball> I just installed Ubuntu, and I'm having trouble locating my NTFS directories, is there a standard location in the extfs file system, or do I need to mount it?
[10:10] <DVSoftware> Xplo: you have to add repositories
[10:11] <Xplo> ok, how
[10:11] <pcharky> Xplo: listen to ubotu
[10:11] <MrGardenHoseMan> Anyone know how to make a 512 meg Cruizer micro usb drive work?
[10:11] <pcharky> !repositories
[10:11] <ubotu> repositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:11] <DVSoftware> Puffball: you need to mount it
[10:11] <MrGardenHoseMan> it just won't mount more some reason
[10:11] <khaije1> i got one,... whats the word with adding debian unstable to apt sources?
[10:12] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, yes but how do I set that var for good?  I export it in the console but that doesnt last beyond that session
[10:12] <tear> is there a flahplayer for the "x86_64\" architecture?
[10:12] <DVSoftware> ermmm... dunno
[10:12] <khaije1> i thought it was trivial but was just recommended against it strongly
[10:12] <DVSoftware> tear: nope
[10:12] <tear> now that really sux
[10:12] <DVSoftware> tear: you can install
[10:12] <Puffball> DVSoftware, I'm more of a linux n00b if anything, could you tell me the easiest way to mount it? lol
[10:12] <DVSoftware> firefox and flash plugin in chroot
[10:13] <DVSoftware> Puffball: mount /dev/hdx /media/windows
[10:13] <DVSoftware> where /dev/hdx is your partition
[10:13] <hamourabi> my realplayer dont work
[10:13] <DVSoftware> /media/windows dir must exist
[10:13] <tear> from where DVSoftware?
[10:13] <DVSoftware> hamourabi: use helix player ;)
[10:14] <DVSoftware> tear: you can install firefox and flash in chroot
[10:14] <DVSoftware> 32bit chroot
[10:14] <hamourabi> but he don play mp3
[10:15] <pcharky> hamourabi: does xmms play mp3?
[10:15] <DVSoftware> hamourabi: why do you want to play mp3 in propertiary player
[10:15] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, I guess it doesnt really matter anymore, wine wont compile (I got it to configure though)..
[10:15] <DVSoftware> there are much better players
[10:15] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: what's the error?
[10:15] <hamourabi> xmms also dont work
[10:16] <Puffball> thanks, DVSoftware
[10:16] <DVSoftware> hamourabi: define "don't work"
[10:16] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware,  alot of these
[10:16] <thedevilsjester> {standard input}:283: Error: `12(%esp)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression
[10:16] <thedevilsjester> it compiles fine on my 64bit gentoo box though...
[10:16] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: well... wine can't compile on 64bit arch
[10:16] <DVSoftware> you have to compile it in chroot
[10:16] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, yes it can
[10:16] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, I compile it just fine on my 64bit gentoo box
[10:17] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, without a chroot
[10:17] <hamourabi> i can not see the xmms in my sound and video mine
[10:17] <Puffball> DVSoftware: I type 'mount /dev/hda /media/windows' and I get 'mount: only root can do that' -- I don't think root is even enabled
[10:17] <DVSoftware> Puffball: sudo
[10:17] <pcharky> hamourabi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:17] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: acccording to wine weekly issue, i don't think it's possible
[10:18] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, its been compiling on my gentoo box for a good long time, so it is possible, maybe portage adds some patches that are not in the official tree
[10:19] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, is there a way to get wine in my apt list so I can get 32bit binary of it?
[10:19] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: probably, or maybe it compiles it in 32bit compatibility
[10:19] <CarlFK> how can I see what options were used to compile the kernel ubuntu uses?
[10:19] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, no it doesnt
[10:19] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: chroot
[10:19] <dalamar> anyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh
[10:19] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, I mean a precompiled apt binary
[10:19] <DVSoftware> i think it will not work
[10:20] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, why wouldnt it? I have 32bit cedega and crossover running just fine
[10:20] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, on this ubuntu box
[10:20] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, without chroot
[10:21] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: yes but i think that wine is dinamically linked to some stuff
[10:21] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, crossover and cedega 'are' wine
[10:21] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: yes they are
[10:21] <DVSoftware> but they are statically linked
[10:21] <Xplo> ok i installed wine now
[10:21] <Xplo> but where can i open it
[10:22] <DVSoftware> Xplo: it's command line app
[10:22] <pcharky> Xplo: man wine
[10:22] <DVSoftware> wine windowsapp.exe
[10:22] <topyli> how do you install rhythmbox plugins? this is just a bunch of python files
[10:22] <Xplo> ok
[10:22] <dalamar> apps -} run app -} 'wine'
[10:22] <thedevilsjester> Xplo, you can also set it to auto run wine when you double click an exe
[10:22] <thedevilsjester> much easier that way
[10:22] <Xplo> cool
[10:22] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: yes it is, but he will not see debug messages
[10:22] <DVSoftware> which are very useful sometime
[10:23] <Xplo> hm
[10:23] <Xplo> :p
[10:23] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, only if he plans on submiting bug reports which most dont :p
[10:24] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: not really
[10:24] <alfzer0> would anyone like to lend me some help with a module compilation/installation problem I have that stems from having to use a diff version of gcc?
[10:24] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: sometime, dll is missing, and wine will report it in console
[10:24] <pcharky> i'm off.. bye
[10:25] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: i'll try to compile wine in 64bit now
[10:25] <DVSoftware> but i doubt it will compile
[10:25] <thedevilsjester> all I know is that it 'does' compile 64bit in my gentoo box, even before I had -multilib in my use flags
[10:25] <mjr> DVSoftware, won't work
[10:26] <mjr> (winelib, dunno)
[10:26] <Xplo> im on the ubuntu desktop
[10:26] <Xplo> how do i get there in terminal
[10:26] <holycow> hey guys, is the ubuntu server config based on the 6 month freeze cycle of debian?  silly question but i need to make sure :)
[10:26] <thedevilsjester> Xplo, cd ~/Desktop
[10:26] <Xplo> ok thnx
[10:26] <hamourabi> DVSoftware, may I paste?
[10:27] <dooglus> in breezy I have a symlink: "/usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.0".  what is the recommended way to get g++ to be linked to g++-3.3 instead?
[10:27] <hamourabi> HappyFool, here dude?
[10:27] <DVSoftware> hamourabi: in private message
[10:27] <HappyFool> hamourabi: just returned
[10:27] <dalamar> anyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh
[10:28] <mjr> dalamar, happen to have a matrox g450?
[10:28] <dalamar> nope
[10:28] <hamourabi> HappyFool,  wb, and still in the xmms thingie :(
[10:29] <mjr> dalamar, even close?
[10:29] <dalamar> no, geforce mx2 32 bit
[10:29] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you still don't see xmms in synaptic?
[10:29] <mjr> ok, no idea
[10:29] <dalamar> and i cant find any google info on it ;/
[10:30] <hamourabi> HappyFool: I dont.
[10:30] <HappyFool> hamourabi: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin?
[10:30] <HappyFool> hamourabi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:31] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: how did you resolved checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:31] <hamourabi> okey hol.
[10:31] <Puffball> DVSoftware: I type 'mount /dev/hda /media/windows' and I get 'mount: only root can do that' -- I don't think root is even enabled <- I'm not sure if you saw this before I pinged out
[10:31] <hamourabi> hold
[10:31] <DVSoftware> Puffball: just sudo it
[10:31] <thedevilsjester> export CC=gcc
[10:32] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: you trying to compile 32-bit stuff on an amd64 ?
[10:32] <Puffball> DVSoftware: does root even have a password? because I tried my password to the initial account, and either way, it won't let me switch via sudo
[10:32] <DVSoftware> use your pass
[10:32] <hamourabi> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1902
[10:32] <tear> DVSoftware, could you give me a quick help on how to fix that flash player for "x86_64\" architecture?
[10:32] <DVSoftware> tear you have to install it in 32bit chroot
[10:33] <DVSoftware> hmm
[10:33] <DVSoftware> !chroot
[10:33] <ubotu> chroot is, like, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:33] <mirak> I have seen on gentoo that they use 32bits libs
[10:33] <dooglus> Puffball: root's password is locked.  when you 'sudo' the password it asks for is your user's password, not root's
[10:33] <DVSoftware> HappyFool: something like that
[10:33] <DVSoftware> !root
[10:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:33] <dooglus> !gcc-3.4
[10:33] <ubotu> dooglus: What?
[10:34] <dooglus> !alternate-versions
[10:34] <ubotu> dooglus: I don't know
[10:34] <SuperID> where do I change the systemwide $PATH?   I changed it in /etc/profile but the new edits do not show for users or root, even after a reboot
[10:34] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you haven't enabled the 'main' repository
[10:34] <dooglus> does anyone?  know how to switch between alternate versions of things?
[10:34] <hamourabi> HappyFool: when I reload the synaptic manager many failers in downloading
[10:34] <HappyFool> !tell hamourabi about repos
[10:34] <HappyFool> hamourabi: the second link in what ubotu just sent you has an example sources.list
[10:35] <HappyFool> hamourabi: if i were you i'd just cut and paste that into your source.list, using 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:35] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: wine won't compile
[10:35] <DVSoftware> HappyFool: how to force architecture to 32bit when compiling things?
[10:35] <hamourabi> HappyFool: okey
[10:35] <thedevilsjester> DVSoftware, try with -m32 flag?
[10:35] <DVSoftware> ahh... wait
[10:36] <DVSoftware> same
[10:36] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: you need gcc-4.0, lib32gcc1  -- do a CC=gcc-4.0 for the compiler. and yes, you need the -m32 compiler flag (try CFLAGS=-m32)
[10:36] <DVSoftware> ah
[10:36] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: disclaimer: i don't have an amd64 but this worked for someone else on #ubuntu earlier ;)
[10:37] <Xplo> where is xchat located?
[10:37] <dooglus> SuperID: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf is the file you need.  edit 'DefaultPath' and 'RootPath'
[10:37] <Xplo> cos i downloaded a file
[10:37] <Xplo> and need to pen it
[10:37] <Xplo> open
[10:37] <DVSoftware> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:37] <DVSoftware> HappyFool: that's the error i get
[10:38] <thedevilsjester> export CC=gcc
[10:38] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: have you tried compiling a simple 'hello world' style program with -m32 ?
[10:38] <DVSoftware> i have gcc-4.0 and lib32gcc1
[10:38] <dooglus> Xplo: xchat is /usr/bin/xchat
[10:38] <DVSoftware> HappyFool: nope
[10:38] <tear> DVSoftware, forgive my lack on knowllage but.. how?
[10:38] <Xplo> ok dooglus
[10:38] <DVSoftware> tear:
[10:38] <DVSoftware> !chroot
[10:38] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:38] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: i'd recommend doing that first, instead of screwing around with ./configure scripts. removes a level of uncertainty
[10:38] <hamourabi> HappyFool: ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates
[10:38] <hamourabi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[10:38] <hamourabi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:38] <hamourabi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:38] <hamourabi> ## The source pacakges
[10:38] <hamourabi> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[10:39] <hamourabi> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:39] <DVSoftware> hamourabi: don't paste here
[10:39] <hamourabi> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:39] <HappyFool> hamourabi: don't paste here, c'mon
[10:39] <hamourabi> ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates
[10:39] <hamourabi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[10:39] <dalamar> anyone know why at 1600x1200 75 mhz all my vids have flicker on the right hand side but 1280x1024 85 mhz they work fine? could it be the refresh? everything else works fine video-wise with either res/refresh seems to only be with some codecs or something too, some videos play okay?
[10:39] <hamourabi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe multiverse
[10:39] <hamourabi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates universe multiverse
[10:39] <hamourabi> ## The source pacakges
[10:39] <Xplo> and where are the files, downloaded with xchat ?
[10:39] <hamourabi> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[10:39] <DVSoftware> Xplo: in your home
[10:39] <DVSoftware> in hidden dir
[10:39] <DVSoftware> .xchat2
[10:39] <Xplo> ok
[10:40] <Xplo> hm, linux cant open rars?
[10:40] <mjr> it's not linux's business to open rars, it's unrar's
[10:40] <Puffball> DVSoftware: mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist <- after playing around, I really couldn't get past this
[10:40] <HappyFool> try the unrar-nonfree package; it's in multiverse
[10:40] <DVSoftware> i told you to create that directory first
[10:41] <Puffball> you did? @_@
[10:41] <DVSoftware> yes
[10:41] <Xplo> how do i do that HappyFool
[10:41] <HappyFool> !tell Xplo about repos
[10:41] <Xplo> multiverse??
[10:42] <Xplo> i installed repos
[10:42] <HappyFool> Xplo: read the first link ubuto sent you; it should explain
[10:42] <Xplo> ah ok
[10:42] <HappyFool> Xplo: then look for unrar-nonfree in synaptic
[10:42] <Xplo> whats the link again
[10:42] <Xplo> Ok
[10:42] <HappyFool> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:42] <Xplo> k
[10:43] <DVSoftware> HappyFool: can i paste to private message
[10:43] <SuperID> dooglus:  thx!   found and fixed it
[10:43] <DVSoftware> just few lines
[10:43] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: go for it
[10:43] <HappyFool> DVSoftware: err, just a sec
[10:44] <HappyFool> hamourabi: you manage to get it working?
[10:44] <Maikeru> yay
[10:44] <Maikeru> got a wireless card that...WORKS!
[10:44] <Xplo> i dont see multiverse
[10:45] <matthew_w> Why do my mplayer and totem crash when I open movie files?
[10:45] <Xplo> i dont see multiverse in the lIst :S
[10:45] <HappyFool> Xplo: which list is that? in synaptic?
[10:46] <Quinthius> Xplo: i think you have to add multiverse repo's yourself
[10:46] <Xplo> yes HappyFool
[10:46] <Xplo> Quinthius, how
[10:46] <uthini> guys, i'm having bluetooth issues, i can't reconnect my cellphone to my PC, have a photo that i wanna send across
[10:47] <HappyFool> Xplo: in that case, it may be easiest to edit your sources.list directly
[10:47] <Quinthius> Xplo: well, on the repository list, click add, then click custom, then enter something like this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:47] <tear> DVSoftware, what exactly is the chroot anyway?
[10:47] <HappyFool> Xplo: an example sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:48] <HappyFool> Xplo: you can use 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to edit the file
[10:48] <HappyFool> Xplo: Quinthius' advice will work too. multiverse *should* be in the list; read the wiki again carefully and make sure you've followed the instructions
[10:48] <Xplo> which one do i need
[10:48] <dodder> does ubuntu have an inbuild firewall ?
[10:48] <HappyFool> !firewall
[10:48] <ubotu> somebody said firewall was Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[10:48] <DVSoftware> tear: just read
[10:48] <DVSoftware> !chroot
[10:48] <ubotu> chroot is probably at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:49] <Maikeru> hey
[10:49] <Maikeru> what is the command
[10:49] <Maikeru> to scan for networks?
[10:49] <Xplo> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:49] <Maikeru> iwconfig wlan0 spy or somethin?
[10:49] <Xplo> should i try that ?
[10:50] <matthew_w> Can you use the non "ubuntu" versions of programs in ubuntu?  In otherwords, can I get GAIM 1.5.0 instead of Gaim 1.1.4UBUNTU ?
[10:50] <Maikeru> nvm
[10:50] <Maikeru> iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:50] <Quinthius> Xplo: it works fine for me!
[10:50] <Xplo> ok then ill do it
[10:50] <dodder> HappyFool, i can't relly seem to locate that frontend... just wanted to check if some ports are blocked... having a problem using bittorrent
[10:50] <Quinthius> Xplo: you might could remove the "us." part
[10:51] <HappyFool> dodder: by default the firewall is disabled
[10:51] <Xplo> ok i added
[10:51] <dodder> HappyFool, where would i enable it then ?
[10:51] <dodder> just in case..
[10:51] <HappyFool> dodder: by installing firestarter
[10:51] <Xplo> its done now :)
[10:51] <Xplo> how can i open the rar now?
[10:52] <HappyFool> dodder: you can install firestarter with synaptic; i haven't used it myself.
[10:52] <HappyFool> Xplo: try the 'unrar-nonfree' command?
[10:52] <Xplo> ok
[10:52] <dodder> HappyFool,  thanks :)
[10:52] <matthew_w> When I try to uninstall the version of Gaim I have installed, it attempts to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" file... why?
[10:52] <Xplo> bash: unrar-nonfree: command not found
[10:53] <mindmedic> Xplo, its "unrar"
[10:53] <Puffball> DVSoftware: is there anyway to make NTFS partition writable through Ubuntu?
[10:53] <Xplo> bash: unrar: command not found
[10:53] <mindmedic> Xplo, now that you installed unrar-nonfree you can open rar archives with file-roller
[10:54] <DVSoftware> Puffball: write support for ntfs drives is still experimental
[10:54] <mindmedic> Xplo, install unrar-nonfree
[10:54] <DVSoftware> it's dangerous
[10:54] <theeil> Puffball: you can write, but not change the size of files ;)
[10:54] <Puffball> ah
[10:54] <HappyFool> Xplo: try 'dpkg -L unrar-nonfree|grep bin/' to find out the command
[10:54] <LasseL> Puffball, but you can make ext3 writable from windows
[10:54] <Puffball> I see
[10:54] <Xplo> i need to install unrar idd but how
[10:54] <DVSoftware> Puffball: there is a way
[10:54] <DVSoftware> to write on ntfs drive
[10:54] <theeil> Puffball: it's eayser to just use fat32
[10:54] <odat> anyone know how i completely remove gnome?
[10:54] <DVSoftware> with captive ntfs driver
[10:55] <Puffball> Right now, I'm just trying to copy all of my NTFS contents to ext3
[10:55] <Xplo> ok HappyFool
[10:55] <Xplo> but how do i install unrar?
[10:55] <Puffball> and its not really working.
[10:55] <HappyFool> Xplo: didn't you install the unrar-nonfree package from synaptic?
[10:55] <Maikeru> hey
[10:55] <mirak> HELP :) . I sstill have this bug of the X server. I though that firefox was the cause, but it's not
[10:55] <theeil> Xplo: does sudo apt-get install unrar not worl?
[10:55] <Xplo> no HappyFool
[10:55] <Maikeru> how do I find out if I have a texas instruments, atheros, broadcom, etc. chipset?
[10:56] <Xplo> ill try
[10:56] <HappyFool> Xplo: you'll need to do that to get the program ;)
[10:56] <mirak> it's a problem with the nv driver for nvidia cards
[10:56] <mirak> I have a 6600gt, and there is a display problem
[10:56] <BeFalou> I did a dist-upgrade and now X doesn't start, nothing shown in Xorg logs... I'm on breezy
[10:57] <tristanmike> So I go to this website http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A//heavyhitters4life.tripod.com/&ei=cF8bQ7eoEaeOiAG3r4SADA  And it closes ALL of my firefox windows. Anybody else, and/or why? :)
[10:57] <Xplo> where can i select it HappyFool
[10:57] <Xplo> in synaptic
[10:57] <LasseL> Puffball, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html (looks stable, but I havn't tried it)
[10:57] <HappyFool> Xplo: in the package list in synaptic
[10:57] <matthew_w> Hey there - is it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
[10:57] <HappyFool> Xplo: there should be a long list (~15000) packages to choose from
[10:57] <HappyFool> Xplo: i'm sure you can figure it out ;). I'm off to bed. good night all
[10:58] <BeFalou> could comeone help me please? I really don't know what to do
[10:58] <Puffball> thanks, LasseL
[10:58] <Gnonthgol> I got an old Toshiba Satellite with a Pentium 133MHz, how to make it faster?
[10:58] <Xplo> ok configured it :p
[10:59] <odat> anyone know a good way to completely remove gnome?
[10:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> through it in the garbage and buy a new laptop
[10:59] <Xplo> but how can i open the rar now?
[10:59] <thrush_2> Gnonthgol, you have ubuntu running on it now?
[11:00] <Gnonthgol> odat: why dont you install the server version?
[11:00] <dodder> what is the zlib package called, and why does it complain about me not having it? i think it's there though...
[11:00] <Gnonthgol> thrush_2: yes
[11:00] <Xplo> how can i install the rar now?
[11:01] <ttyS0> Xplo, sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:01] <thrush_2> Gnonthgol, Im assuming you arent running gnome?
[11:01] <Xplo> ok
[11:02] <Xplo> did that ttyS0
[11:02] <Xplo> and how do i install the rar now?
[11:02] <elvirolo> hi all
[11:02] <elvirolo> does anyone use breezy ?
[11:02] <Puffball> Does anyone know if VMware run on Ubuntu at all?
[11:02] <ttyS0> Xplo, install?
[11:02] <Gnonthgol> thrush_2: actuly I am, that is the point of the computer
[11:02] <Xplo> yes ttyS0
[11:02] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: i've found a way
[11:02] <ttyS0> Xplo, what do you mean? :)
[11:02] <tdn> I have both Windows and Ubuntu on my machine. When I boot up in Windows, the time is not correct. It is 2 hours behind. How do I fix this? I know you'll probably say, that this is a Windows issue, but its not. I think it is because in Linux the time is set to GMT or something like that. I just don't know how to change it. I have tried tzconfig.
[11:03] <thrush_2> Gnonthgol, I would go with fluxbox or blackbox on that laptop myself
[11:03] <DVSoftware> you have to install  ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev
[11:03] <Xplo> i downloaded a rar file, and want to install it now
[11:03] <Xplo> unpack first :p
[11:03] <ttyS0> Xplo, unrar file.rar
[11:03] <BeFalou> omg, Xorg started!
[11:03] <ttyS0> in console, of course
[11:03] <DVSoftware> tdn: change timezone
[11:03] <Xplo> ok
[11:03] <DVSoftware> you can do it from gnome
[11:03] <tdn> DVSoftware, hmm... But the timezone is correct in both Windows and Linux.
[11:03] <DVSoftware> right click on your clock
[11:03] <DVSoftware> hmm
[11:03] <DVSoftware> are you sure?
[11:04] <elvirolo>  are, by any chance, python-wxgtk2.6 and gstreamer0.8-musepack broken?
[11:04] <tdn> DVSoftware, 100 percent.
[11:04] <elvirolo> (in breezy)
[11:04] <tdn> DVSoftware, as said. I think it has something to do with GMT
[11:04] <Xplo> how do i get in desktop again?
[11:04] <DVSoftware> thedevilsjester: but there is another problem
[11:05] <Xplo> in terminal
[11:05] <tdn> DVSoftware, during ubuntu install I think that I said yes to "Is your computers clock set to GMT". I should probably have said no.
[11:05] <jman888> Hello?
[11:05] <DVSoftware> tdn: dunno
[11:05] <BeFalou> /etc/X11/X is not executable, anyone knows about it?
[11:05] <DVSoftware> i don't use windows
[11:05] <Xplo> how do i get in desktop again?
[11:05] <Xplo> in terminal
[11:05] <jman888> I need help. Why cant i hear Sound from a video in Vlc
[11:05] <Xplo> cd ~Dekstop or smthng
[11:05] <Xplo> dunno
[11:05] <ttyS0> Xplo, cd ~/Desktop
[11:05] <Xplo> yea :p
[11:06] <Xplo> extracting failed
[11:06] <Xplo> :S
[11:06] <chninkel> DVSoftware: you can edit /etc/default/rcS and change UTC=yes to no
[11:06] <jman888> Hello?
[11:07] <tdn> Which packages has something to do with time. I have to dpkg-reconfigure one of them. It's the one that controls something with GMT.
[11:07] <ttyS0> Xplo,  may be archive is too new (unrar can't extract too new archives)
[11:07] <Xplo> :S
[11:07] <Xplo> how can i unpack it then?
[11:07] <Xplo> unrar
[11:07] <dodder> if i like have installed another window manager, in what conf file do i change witch window manager x chooses, when it startsup ?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> winrar and wine works for me.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> dodder,  normally you select it from the GDM menus.
[11:08] <dodder> Dr_Willis, GDM menus?
[11:08] <misfit_toy> what is the file to edit to add e17 to the choices on gdm?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> dodder,  yes. the GDM login tool has several menus/options.
[11:08] <DVSoftware> ttyS0: unrar-nonfree
[11:08] <DVSoftware> !info unrar-nonfree
[11:08] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> you would make a new SOMTHING.desktop entry for gdm to read misfit_toy
[11:08] <Xplo> ttyS0,
[11:08] <Xplo> how do i unrar then?
[11:08] <Xplo> if its too new
[11:08] <misfit_toy> Dr_Willis, in what dir?
[11:09] <dodder> Dr_Willis, speak english :/
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> ie: icewm has 'icewm.desktop" i think. and every other wm has a similer entry.
[11:09] <DVSoftware> Xplo: install unrar-nonfree
[11:09] <Maikeru> hey
[11:09] <Xplo> i did that too DVSoftware
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> misfit_toy,  i forget. :P its in /etc/somwehere
[11:09] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[11:09] <Maikeru> how do I figure out if I have like Prism 2/2.5/3, Atheros, etc.?
[11:09] <Xplo> whats the command to unrar with taht
[11:09] <chninkel> tdn: launch base-config to reconfigure time
[11:09] <ttyS0> Xplo, DVSoftware says to you
[11:09] <dodder> Dr_Willis, i really don't get what you are talking about :/
[11:09] <tdn> chninkel, ok. Thanks.
[11:09] <DVSoftware> Xplo: unrar, but did you removed unrar first?
[11:09] <Xplo> no
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> dodder,  the gdm LOGIN screen wher ya enter your name and password has SEVERAL options and menus you can select and chagne things.
[11:09] <chninkel> tdn: bout you will have to answer to other questions
[11:09] <Xplo> didnt remove anythng
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> dodder,  explore the login screen. :P
[11:10] <DVSoftware> Xplo: remove unrar and reinstall unrar-nonfree
[11:10] <Xplo> ok, how
[11:10] <dodder> Dr_Willis,  okey then... and gdm is like the gnome login screen, righto ?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> GDM = Gnome Desktop Manager
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> KDM = KDE's Desktop Manager.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> XDM = the original desktop mnager.
[11:10] <Xplo> how can i remove
[11:10] <dodder> Dr_Willis, righto think i got it now.. i'll try, thanks :=)
[11:10] <Xplo> DVSoftware,
[11:10] <DVSoftware> Xplo: through synaptic
[11:11] <Xplo> ,ok
[11:11] <tdn> chninkel, Yes. It was what I was looking for. Thanks.
[11:11] <benplaut> anyone here use perlpanel?
[11:12] <tdn> Which type of key should I generate with ssh-keygen to get the most secure key?
[11:12] <tdn>  - And how many bits?
[11:13] <Maikeru> Hello
[11:13] <Maikeru> What is the link to the list of all the cards and their chipsets?
[11:14] <Gnonthgol> Anyone got the idea of a flash or something that emulates the ubuntu installer?
[11:14] <DVSoftware> ???
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> I just got this thing when i booted that said something like "press ctrl-d to continue"  how do i fix that so it just boots?
[11:15] <thenuke> BROKEN_LADDER: I think that you have the needed commands on the screen
[11:15] <thenuke> BROKEN_LADDER: it should tell you something about umm.. fsck too
[11:15] <thenuke> maybe after pressing ctrl-d if not else
[11:15] !lilo:*! Hi all. You may be aware that Interdictor's project is here on freenode ( http://www.nola-intel.org/ && http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ ), providing information on the state of New Orleans, Louisiana and the folks evacuated from it during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
[11:16] <thenuke> cant remember. off to sleep.
[11:16] <matthew_w> Is it possible to upgrade software in ubuntu.  What I mean by this is - Firefox, thunderbird, gaim, all use OLD 1.0.4 releases when like 5.0 is available in each of them because they are the "ubuntu releases"
[11:17] <thrice`> matthew_w: you are running stable ubuntu, remember; it only updates security risks, not all software
[11:17] <tdn> My console dialog boxes look very wierd in X. Screenshot: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/Screenshot-2.png. How to I get them to look good in both the console and in X?
[11:17] <matthew_w> thrice`; so again - is there some way to upgade say gaim, which is currently running 1.1.4ubuntu to 1.5.0 ?
[11:17] <kemik> matthew_w:  by enabling backports
[11:17] <kemik> !backports
[11:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:18] !lilo:*! Their main channel is #interdictor and #interdictor-chat is available for discussion. I'm doing this wallops message because they need your help. If you'd like to assist, please stop by #interdictor-training .... thank you!
[11:18] <thrice`> matthew_w: i heard you the first time.
[11:20] <matthew_w> kemik; what do you mean by backports?
[11:20] <matthew_w> thrice`; I didn't mean to repeat, it's just I didn't quite get your response.
[11:20] <thrice`> matthew_w: yes; that will update SOME of the commonly used packs
[11:20] <thrice`> check packages.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <kemik> matthew_w:  read what ubotu said
[11:20] <matthew_w> Oh!  There it is.
[11:20] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[11:20] <thrice`> tha twill tell you exactly what is in backports at the moment
[11:21] <thrice`> otherwise, you might think about running breezy (the pre-release of ubuntu, which updates packs all thetime); however, breezy is very unstable at the moment
[11:21] <thrice`> so, backports for the time, and possibly breezy when things stablalize
[11:21] <matthew_w> Is it safe/stable to run backports?
[11:21] <thrice`> matthew_w: yes; they are officially supported now
[11:22] <thrice`> matthew_w: however, things do take a little time; for example, gaim 1.4.0 is in backports; it's closer, but not quite 1.5
[11:22] <matthew_w> Ok
[11:22] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[11:22] <DVSoftware> well
[11:23] <DVSoftware> it's stable for me
[11:23] <DVSoftware> 23:22:51 up 2 days,  1:49,  2 users,  load average: 0.22, 0.23, 0.25
[11:23] <thrice`> however, firefox 1.0.6 is in, along with xchat 2.4.4, thunderbird 1.0.6
[11:23] <bmm> Hi. I've got a small question for the ubuntu web administrators. Would you consider adding P2P links to files to your website? (ed2k, Magnet, GNUnet)
[11:23] <thrice`> DVSoftware: yes, I think preview is coming up soon
[11:24] <DVSoftware> bmm: what are u talking about?
[11:24] <thedevilsjester> How long does it take for the pressed CDs to get to you usually? (ubuntu ones)
[11:24] <thrice`> thedevilsjester: couple months
[11:25] <benplaut> thedevilsjester, mine took almost 4 months
[11:25] <bmm> DVSoftware: Most Peer to peer networks allow for a spacial hash to identify a file on the network. So if I wanted to download the right ubuntu CD image, it would need the hash.
[11:25] <thedevilsjester> hm maybe ill just download the 32bit ones, 64bit is still not ready :p  thought maybe it would be on a precompiled os but doesnt seem to be...
[11:25] <thrush_2> about the time of a release cycle =(
[11:25] <bmm> However, without a seed node, the changes are the hash based link won't work.
[11:25] <DVSoftware> bmm: why don't you download from ubuntu mirror?
[11:26] <benplaut> yikes... XFCE is a Fitt's Law catastrophy
[11:26] <fblade1987> guys can i ask an favour, can you tell me why unbuntu takes so long booting in, it hangs at "configureing network interfaces" when it never use too
[11:26] <bmm> Could simply do that, but that would be taking bandwidth of a precious project ;-)
[11:27] <bmm> DVSoftware: It would be the seem as bittorrent, but without having to run a tracker.
[11:27] <swab79> isnt there an official torrent?
[11:27] <benplaut> fblade1987, are you on a laptop, with WiFi?
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> dammit..it appears my home was accidentally created as ext3 instead of reiser.
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> for months i haven't noticed this.
[11:28] <mcrandello> does anyone know what package contains libxslt.pc?
[11:28] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: lol
[11:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay/video.jsp?id=lord_rhymes&ratingBarExclude=0&preplay=1&brand=
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol?
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> reiser is so much more advanced.
[11:30] <swab79> well if you didnt notice for months how important can it be?
[11:30] <aru> thats what I was thinking :)
[11:30] <Gnonthgol> ! find libxslt.pc
[11:30] <tear> !chroot
[11:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Gnonthgol
[11:30] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[11:30] <bmm> swab79: You might get problems when you want to add special modules ;-)
[11:31] <tristanmike> Can anyone use their MSN accounts under default Gaim right now, I lost it and can't seem to get it back, wondering if anyone else is having the same problem :)
[11:31] <Gnonthgol> ubotu: find libxslt.pc
[11:31] <tristanmike> getting error at the "sending cookie" phase
[11:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libxslt.pc' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/libxslt.pc) in libdevel/libxslt1-dev.
[11:31] <Xappe> tristanmike: msn is quite flaky nowadays
[11:31] <tristanmike> Xappe, nowadays? ;)
[11:32] <mcrandello> ooh thx
[11:32] <Xappe> tristanmike: as aleays :)
[11:32] <Xappe> *always
[11:32] <swab79> tristanmike: no problem here
[11:32] <tristanmike> crap
[11:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> something happened when i just did apt-get upgrade, and now i get no sound. :(
[11:33] <tristanmike> swab79, thanx
[11:33] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: you found the way to silence to
[11:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> :(
[11:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have these weird modules now with snd in them
[11:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> ones i don't recognize
[11:34] <tristanmike> what's a "Reading error" in Gaim?
[11:34] <moomindaddy> hiya, is there a way i can auto mount a windows partition?
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
[11:35] <Gnonthgol> tristanmike: It means that Gaim neads google, :-D
[11:35] <tristanmike> moomindaddy, run this script http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:35] <tristanmike> thank Seveas for that
[11:36] <tristanmike> Gnonthgol, hey, can i use msn accounts through google talk?
[11:36] <Gnonthgol> tristanmike: I dont know
[11:36] <tristanmike> Gnonthgol, cool
[11:36] <moomindaddy> erm i did it before tristan, but now it says permission denied (new install)
[11:37] <stoeptegel> tristanmike: i know psi can :)
[11:37] <moomindaddy> ah fixed
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike why would you use google talk in gaim?
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike google talk uses closed jabber servers.
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> google is also one of the most evil companies next to m$
[11:37] <tristanmike> BROKEN_LADDER, ummm, because there is no google talk for linux?
[11:37] <DVSoftware> tristanmike: any jabber client will do
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike why would you use google talk?
[11:38] <moomindaddy> dont spose any of you have tried ultima online in ubuntu?
[11:38] <moomindaddy> (with wine etc)
[11:38] <stoeptegel> i've a problem: azureus keeps complaining for write access, how do i automaticly give azureus 775 permissions?
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike you can just get an open account on a real jabber server.
[11:38] <Maikeru> yay
[11:38] <Maikeru> my wireless connection works
[11:38] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know what grumpy and perky repos. are?
[11:38] <Maikeru> so time to fix it >:)
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike and if you want free voip, just get linphone which supports _sip_
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> the real standard for voip
[11:38] <tristanmike> BROKEN_LADDER, I'm lost dude, I've just used MSN and Yahoo my whole life, I'm still uber-new
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> that you can use to call real hard sip phones.
[11:38] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: or just use skype
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> no.
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype is bad
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype does not support open standards.
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype will die, the question is when.
[11:39] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> until it dies it will just slow the adoption of real standards.
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> once sip has pervaded the market, there will be no need for skype.
[11:39] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: skype is smart and sells skype out etc.
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have an sip phone on my desk.
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> call it with skype.
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh wait, you can't.
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> but you can call it with linphone.
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike google talk just uses  the jabber standard.
[11:40] <kemik> #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike you can get a free jabber account on jabber80.com or jabber.org for instance, that will work with any other open jabber servers.
[11:40] <_nitroboy> hello
[11:40] <mcrandello> anyone compile wine's cvs with ubuntu recently?
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> so you could still talk to people on other jabber servers.
[11:40] <Tritis> Anyone know to make gnucash have a readable font?  I think it's using gtk1 font which is all mushed together.
[11:40] <DVSoftware> mcrandello: me
[11:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike with google talk, you can only chat with jabber users that are on google talk.
[11:41] <mcrandello> you get anything to run on it without throwing unhandled exception errors?
[11:41] <tristanmike> BROKEN_LADDER, I just wanna chat with my friends on my MSN list, boo hoo
[11:41] <tristanmike> lol
[11:41] <NitroBoy> hey
[11:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike you could just put your google talk account in and then get a "real" jabber acocunt too, so you have both.
[11:41] <DVSoftware> mcrandello: yes
[11:41] <Pyf> OMG OMG OMG OMG http://www.imperialconflict.com/board.php?board=1&topic=6&thread=1229677&last=1125872863 best thing ever lioke
[11:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike then why do you want to put your google talk account into gaim?!
[11:41] <NitroBoy> can i ask for help here?
[11:42] <mcrandello> any tips? I've tried every version of wine, winex, cedega, the version that wt2 dude reccomends, nothing works right it seems
[11:42] <Gnonthgol> NitroBoy: yes
[11:42] <NitroBoy> ok...
[11:42] <tristanmike> BROKEN_LADDER, I....don't.....know, to make a new list and add all my friends in case my MSN account doesn't work? I think that's it. :)
[11:42] <NitroBoy> its a pretty popular problem i guess
[11:42] <NitroBoy> but how do i add unlisted resolutions
[11:42] <NitroBoy> it will only allow it to set upto 1024x768
[11:42] <NitroBoy> and i did add the refrates for my monitor
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike your msn account will work in gaim.
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike make sure you install off-the-record messaging.
[11:43] <tristanmike> yay, I have a new error telling me the MSN servers are temporatily unavailable.
[11:43] <NitroBoy> i just got on *:)*
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
[11:43] <tristanmike> BROKEN_LADDER, off-the-record?
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike perhaps.
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike it's encryption plus deniable authentication and perfect forward secrecy.
[11:44] <tristanmike> plugin?
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's _the_ encryption plugin.
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> yup.
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i make my system use the right sound modules for my card?
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> i did an apt-get upgrade and now sound doesn'n work, and the loaded modules look wrong
[11:45] <tristanmike> I don't have the plugin
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> isn't there something like slackware's rc.modules that i can look at and find the right line to uncomment?
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> tristanmike you get it.
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> either via apt-get or just download the source and compile it.
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's easy.
[11:45] <tristanmike> ok, tank
[11:45] <tristanmike> s
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's awesome.
[11:46] <tristanmike> don't have it in synaptic, and don't know how to compile from source, still learning the basics
[11:47] <disasm> BROKEN_LADDER: you can append the module name to /etc/modules
[11:47] <Pyf> im using a "sony cav-u5" usb to optical converter for my audio, it works in most programs and ubuntu recognises it
[11:47] <Pyf> how can i set it up so it does?
[11:47] <Pyf> but vlc doesnt
[11:47] <Pyf> read 3rd line 2nd, lol...
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> how well does the MA301 nergear wireless card work in nix?
[11:47] <disasm> lsuactiafner: whats the chipset?
[11:48] <DanielHolth> hey ubuntu
[11:48] <DanielHolth> what's up
[11:48] <disasm> hey DanielHolth
[11:48] <DanielHolth> breezy badger is being basically benevolent by my overview.
[11:49] <DanielHolth> but my power surged athlon xp 1600+ motherboard is flakier than a delicious pastry.
[11:49] <DanielHolth> they should be cheap now?
[11:49] <DanielHolth> do you think there are pci-e motherboards for that old socket?
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> disasm Hermes in PLX9052 based PCI adaptor support
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> its in the kernel.. but want to know from someone that runs that hardware..
[11:50] <kevogod> Is there any reason that I would get unaccelerated graphics on an i686 kernel when I am using the same xorg.conf as on the i386 kernel?
[11:50] <kevogod> (fglrx driver)
[11:50] <disasm> lsuactiafner: hermes should work fine then
[11:50] <dtamas> I need a subtitle adjuster program on Ubuntu. Know anybody a cool one?
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> disasm where is it getting the sound modules it has currently loaded then?
[11:50] <disasm> BROKEN_LADDER: my guess is hotplug
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> disasm : experimental driver...
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> disasm isn't there a file in ubuntu where it lists virrtually every module commented out?
[11:50] <DanielHolth> And for some reason hotplug drive mounting isn't working in KDE. Should it?
[11:50] <CarlFK> is there a kernel parameter I can pass that will turn the cpu fan on?
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> and you can find the right line and uncomment it
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't even know the module name for the ichc5 sound device
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> CarlFK : if you your fan aint running put it off now
[11:51] <CarlFK> it's off
[11:51] <CarlFK> it = laptop
[11:51] <kevogod> Let it run for hours with Doom 3 on.
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> what cpu?
[11:51] <CarlFK> P2-233
[11:51] <disasm> BROKEN_LADDER: i dont know, possibly, i tend to go straight to the source: cd /lib/modules/<kernel-vs>/sound/pci; ls
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> heh dont know about intel
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> for amd you install powernowd
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> might work..
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> but for intel no idea
[11:52] <CarlFK> the good news is something detectes it, loggs "critical temp reached.  shutting down" to /var/log/messages.  then it shuts down
[11:52] <DanielHolth> Also major props to ubuntu for recognizing my Apple keyboard's volume keys! That was so cool.
[11:52] <DanielHolth> Only in gnome so far though.
[11:52] <mcrandello> I had a p60 you could cook omelettes on the case. It was beautiful.
[11:52] <DanielHolth> (not an apple machine)
[11:53] <dieman> hey
[11:53] <dieman> does anyone know how to break a broken openoffice.org2 spell check?
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> disasm you mean ../kernel/sound/pci
[11:53] <dieman> the bug report doesn't really have any good info, either...
[11:53] <disasm> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah
[11:53] <DVSoftware> how to break a broken?
[11:53] <DVSoftware> hmmmm
[11:54] <dieman> break
[11:54] <dieman> fix, i mean :)
[11:54] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[11:54] <sorush20> guys.. the auto update doesn't work in firefox. I keep getting the message that there are updates available but I can't see the list and when I click on the forward button to update it just hangs and isn't downloading anything.. I'm using ubuntu firefox.. 1.0.6 can someone help please..
[11:55] <dieman> Figured it out
[11:55] <dieman> n/,m
[11:55] <disasm> sorush20: well, you need to be root for firefox to auto-update itself (it's not like windows where anyone can access firefox's folder...)
[11:56] <disasm> sorush20: theres better ways to update firefox though, like wait till ubuntu makes an update and install via synaptic
[11:56] <dieman> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=320831
[11:56] <moomindaddy> anyone have a more filled out sources.list please?
[11:56] <sorush20> disasm: I want to be able to auto update the extensions its not working....
[11:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm going to try a reboot.
[11:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is desperation talking
[11:57] <disasm> sorush20: ah, i see, never tried before
[11:58] <sorush20> Guys I'm unable to update my extensions in firefox.. can someone help please.
[11:59] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to change the default hashing of passwords (eg from DES to MD5 for example)?