=== fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.0.35] has joined #edubuntu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === Orby [n=orbman@85-210-170-12.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-158-81-92.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu === flynaked [n=pj@ip68-110-254-230.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === flynaked [n=pj@ip68-110-254-230.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [08:20] hi JaneW [08:31] hi jsgotangco === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone is now known as pere [11:37] ogra, ping? [11:45] jsgotangco, pong [11:45] jsgotangco, you broke my CD yesterday [11:45] ogra, will you be packaging the docs? [11:45] eh? [11:46] i was about to ask that [11:46] obviously the doc-team decided that we dont have a package called ubuntu-quickguide anymore... so edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are uninstallable... [11:46] which breaks the install directly after reboot [11:47] and, indeed, i'll be packaging the docs ;) [11:47] hmm [11:48] there is already a bug open about it... its just odd to introduce such a harmful change during preview freeze :) [11:48] anyway, i worked around it for now... dunno what ubuntu will do here [11:49] well jbailey was experimenting around with what is currently in svn [11:49] what he did was remove all existing docs and dumped them into ubuntu-doc [11:49] yup, but the binary was called ubuntu-quickguide before... thats what the seeds say... germinate expects it to be there [11:50] so either you depend on ubuntu-docs (which is about being moved to universe because of this change) or you change the seeds... [11:50] hmmm there's still ubuntu-quickguide [11:50] i did the latter for edubuntu, but i think that might be not desired by ubuntu [11:51] wonder if jbailey is aware of it [11:51] nope... there is an old package of ubuntu-quickguide.... there is a ubuntu-doc with a newer version, so this old one wont be installable [11:51] as i said, there is already a bug open about it... [11:52] and Kamion (who filed it) seems not to be after changig the seeds [11:55] what bug is this? [11:55] 14709? [11:57] and 03 ... the need to be merged... [11:57] they even [11:57] yes i'm CC myself [11:57] we can probably split some docs [11:57] quickguide to faqguide but same package [11:59] you should just make sure the seeds show what you actually offer... [11:59] the CD breaks only if this is out of sync.... so either remover ubuntu-quickguide from the seeds or re-introduce the package [12:00] will we be able to remove seeds at this time? [12:10] i think so... but better ask colin/mdz === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Sept 2 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | CALL FOR TESTERS: to test our latest CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting many improvements have bee [12:52] hrm === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Sept 2 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | TEST OUR LATEST CD ! see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting many improvements have been made [12:53] better :) [01:06] brb [01:13] ogra: CD is sounding promising :) [01:14] JaneW, two manual steps left, all packages on CD... one step will be gone tonight, the second is a bit trickier, i first have to learn quickly how to make installer packages :) [01:15] but even if we are a day or two later then ubuntu with our preview through that, edubuntu will rock the ltsp world ... :-D [01:15] todays CD is really convincing... === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [01:23] well done :)) [01:24] yup, i'm quite proud ;) [01:27] you should be :) [01:27] (how's you cat now btw?) [01:28] did you see this... JaneW Another South African born dot-commer (Zip 2and PayPal), involved in space travel http://www.carteblanche.co.za/Display/Display.asp?Id=2879 [01:28] the cat is slowly recreating from the surgery... [01:29] s/recreating/recovering/ [01:39] good [01:41] yup [01:57] JaneW, that guy should hire mark as pilot ;) [02:06] ogra: indeed [02:06] I loved his comment that he would pay $20M to NOT have to live in Russia for 6 months.. [02:06] heh === Carpe_Libertatem [n=esenthie@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === mp1 [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] Welcome. === LinuxJones [n=willy@blk-222-89-108.eastlink.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:46] ogra: so what license are we using for edubuntu now [03:46] specifically images? [03:47] creative commons sharealike [03:47] say cc-sa-2.5 [03:48] i think elmo wants it for all artwork in the future, even for ubuntu [03:48] ok [03:48] as far as i understood him on the weeken [03:48] d [03:49] I think that's what I was tryuing to use first, and then I changed it cos your guys were talking about GPL [03:49] GDL [03:49] yup... at least you had a CC variant... [03:50] If I have to stop a bittorrent d/l half way through will I need to start it again from sctratch later, or can it carry on where it left off? [03:50] this one is a bit odd, since you cant just download it as txt file... it took me 20min to reformat it manuall from the html page [03:50] it should just pick up again [03:51] ok thanks... [03:52] I started d/ling something lareg which won;t finish before hometime, I wasn;t usre if it would be wasted if I stop it before it ends... [03:52] it should just continue where it stopped... but i'm not a massive torrentuser [03:54] hello :) [03:55] saw the thing about the torrent, your torrent should resume from where you left it, depending on the client i should check to see how much of the file you allready have and then just get the rest for you [03:55] i havnt seen a client that doesnt support resuming yet... [03:56] oh and sorry if i kinda butted into your convo half way through :P [03:57] Orby, dont worry, thats what the channel is for :) [04:00] orby np, and thanks [04:01] its ok :), i've been idle in here for a bit, thought it was time i said something :) === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] Orby, nice to meet you then :) [04:01] nice to meet you also :D [04:04] i'm in #ubuntu as well, but its giving me a headache trying to read what people are putting, its just scrolling toooo fast :) [04:04] yes it's pretty hard to keep up there... [04:04] hehe... yes, i started there too [04:04] LOTS of users [04:04] only 320... thats not much [04:05] at high times there were always around 500 [04:05] wow now that is alot [04:06] yup... it has gone down due to the spambot attacs the last days... [04:06] oh ? [04:08] the attacs are less now... but its still not over i think === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu [04:19] almost time to go home. aaaaaah. === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] [04:23] ogra: how is the CD now? :) [04:23] see http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [04:23] ;) === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [04:24] the dhcp reload should be fixed today... the ltsp-build-client is a bit more tricky [04:24] but with those two manual steps its fine... [04:35] ok === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === pere is now known as pere_gone [06:42] 2 [06:43] 3 [06:43] 4 [06:43] 5 [06:46] 6 [06:47] i tried to switch windows in irssi but i messed up :) [06:48] :D [06:48] well counted guys :) [06:50] ill install the daily cd right now [06:50] hope it works [06:50] :D [06:51] for me it did... [06:51] 3 times ... [06:51] cool [06:51] I have a server and client ready :P [06:51] anything specific you'd like to have tested? [06:52] just run it ... click around a bit try to use some apps... if you find errors, report them... [06:52] ok === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@blagnac-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-69-224-19-59.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu [09:09] hey everyone [09:10] hi === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.0.35] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jamey3 [n=jamey3@82-37-128-102.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jamey3 [n=jamey3@82-37-128-102.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === yvesC [n=prof@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [11:45] hi all [11:46] someone has tested gcompris from universe ? [11:46] i think the deb is broken [11:47] yvesC, in breezy ? [11:49] in hoary. [11:49] it's fixed in breezy ? [11:49] gcompris does not find pthon-gtk and run with 50 boards only [11:50] its fixedin breezy.... [11:50] what version is in breezy? [11:50] i havent worked on the hoary package, so i cant judge it, sorry... [11:51] you have made the breezy package ? [11:51] i had to add a lot of he 7.0 stuff to make it work with our current compiler... so its a 6.5.3 with some 7.0 love added [11:53] did you test the 7.0 in ubuntu ? [11:54] nope, i just added the appropriate fixes to 6.5.3 to make it work right... [11:55] but 7.0 should compile fine based on my experience with backporting fixes i just didnt compile the whole cvs version... [11:55] i'm confident we'll see it in breezy+1 [11:55] 7.0 needs pysqlite2. It's in breezy? [11:55] i.e. in 6 weeks [11:55] yup [11:56] good. So we could make a breezy deb for 7.0 [11:56] thanks. I will test breezy tomorrow. [11:57] great :) [11:57] in edubuntu there will be all breezy ? [11:57] yup [11:57] and gcompris is preinstalled :) [11:59] if you want to install edubuntu wihout ltsp server, just type "workstation" at the CD bootprompt and you get a normal ubuntu desktop with the edubuntu apps and (not yet) the edubuntu artwork [11:59] great [12:00] in lstp case, for classroom, system means a login account for each kid ? [12:02] during install you set up the admin account, afterwards you can add accounts as you like... [12:02] i.e. one for every kid if you want to :) [12:03] ok. It's possible to update from hoary to edubuntu workstation directly? [12:05] should be possible... just do a hoary->breezy upgrade and install edubuntu-desktop on top