[08:20] <jsgotangco> hi JaneW 
[08:31] <JaneW> hi jsgotangco 
[11:37] <jsgotangco> ogra, ping?
[11:45] <ogra> jsgotangco, pong
[11:45] <ogra> jsgotangco, you broke my CD yesterday
[11:45] <jsgotangco> ogra, will you be packaging the docs?
[11:45] <jsgotangco> eh?
[11:46] <jsgotangco> i was about to ask that
[11:46] <ogra> obviously the doc-team decided that we dont have a package called ubuntu-quickguide anymore... so edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are uninstallable...
[11:46] <ogra> which breaks the install directly after reboot
[11:47] <ogra> and, indeed, i'll be packaging the docs ;)
[11:47] <jsgotangco> hmm
[11:48] <ogra> there is already a bug open about it... its just odd to introduce such a harmful change during preview freeze :)
[11:48] <ogra> anyway, i worked around it for now... dunno what ubuntu will do here
[11:49] <jsgotangco> well jbailey was experimenting around with what is currently in svn
[11:49] <jsgotangco> what he did was remove all existing docs and dumped them into ubuntu-doc
[11:49] <ogra> yup, but the binary was called ubuntu-quickguide before... thats what the seeds say... germinate expects it to be there
[11:50] <ogra> so either you depend on ubuntu-docs (which is about being moved to universe because of this change) or you change the seeds...
[11:50] <jsgotangco> hmmm there's still ubuntu-quickguide
[11:50] <ogra> i did the latter for edubuntu, but i think that might be not desired by ubuntu
[11:51] <jsgotangco> wonder if jbailey is aware of it
[11:51] <ogra> nope... there is an old package of ubuntu-quickguide.... there is a ubuntu-doc with a newer version, so this old one wont be installable
[11:51] <ogra> as i said, there is already a bug open about it...
[11:52] <ogra> and Kamion (who filed it) seems not to be after changig the seeds
[11:55] <jsgotangco> what bug is this?
[11:55] <jsgotangco> 14709?
[11:57] <ogra> and 03 ... the need to be merged...
[11:57] <ogra> they even
[11:57] <jsgotangco> yes i'm CC myself
[11:57] <jsgotangco> we can probably split some docs
[11:57] <jsgotangco> quickguide to faqguide but same package
[11:59] <ogra> you should just make sure the seeds show what you actually offer...
[11:59] <ogra> the CD breaks only if this is out of sync.... so either remover ubuntu-quickguide from the seeds or re-introduce the package
[12:00] <jsgotangco> will we be able to remove seeds at this time?
[12:10] <ogra> i think so... but better ask colin/mdz
[12:52] <ogra> hrm
[12:53] <ogra> better :)
[01:06] <jsgotangco> brb
[01:13] <JaneW> ogra: CD is sounding promising :)
[01:14] <ogra> JaneW, two manual steps left, all packages on CD... one step will be gone tonight, the second is a bit trickier, i first have to learn quickly how to make installer packages :)
[01:15] <ogra> but even if we are a day or two later then ubuntu with our preview through that, edubuntu will rock the ltsp world ... :-D
[01:15] <ogra> todays CD is really convincing...
[01:23] <JaneW> well done :))
[01:24] <ogra> yup, i'm quite proud ;)
[01:27] <JaneW> you should be :)
[01:27] <JaneW> (how's you cat now btw?)
[01:28] <JaneW> did you see this... JaneW Another South African born dot-commer (Zip 2and PayPal), involved in space travel http://www.carteblanche.co.za/Display/Display.asp?Id=2879
[01:28] <ogra> the cat is slowly recreating from the surgery...
[01:29] <ogra> s/recreating/recovering/
[01:39] <JaneW> good
[01:41] <ogra> yup
[01:57] <ogra> JaneW, that guy should hire mark as pilot ;)
[02:06] <JaneW> ogra: indeed
[02:06] <JaneW> I loved his comment that he would pay $20M to NOT have to live in Russia for 6 months..
[02:06] <ogra> heh
[03:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> Welcome.
[03:46] <JaneW> ogra: so what license are we using for edubuntu now
[03:46] <JaneW> specifically images?
[03:47] <ogra> creative commons sharealike
[03:47] <ogra> say cc-sa-2.5
[03:48] <ogra> i think elmo wants it for all artwork in the future, even for ubuntu
[03:48] <JaneW> ok
[03:48] <ogra> as far as i understood him on the weeken
[03:48] <ogra> d
[03:49] <JaneW> I think that's what I was tryuing to use first, and then I changed it cos your guys were talking about GPL
[03:49] <JaneW> GDL
[03:49] <ogra> yup... at least you had a CC variant...
[03:50] <JaneW> If I have to stop a bittorrent d/l half way through will I need to start it again from sctratch later, or can it carry on where it left off?
[03:50] <ogra> this one is a bit odd, since you cant just download it as txt file... it took me 20min to reformat it manuall from the html page
[03:50] <ogra> it should just pick up again
[03:51] <JaneW> ok thanks...
[03:52] <JaneW> I started d/ling something lareg which won;t finish before hometime, I wasn;t usre if it would be wasted if I stop it before it ends...
[03:52] <ogra> it should just continue where it stopped... but i'm not a massive           torrentuser
[03:54] <Orby> hello :)
[03:55] <Orby> saw the thing about the torrent, your torrent should resume from where you left it, depending on the client i should check to see how much of the file you allready have and then just get the rest for you
[03:55] <Orby> i havnt seen a client that doesnt support resuming yet...
[03:56] <Orby> oh and sorry if i kinda butted into your convo half way through :P
[03:57] <ogra> Orby, dont worry, thats what the channel is for :)
[04:00] <JaneW> orby np, and thanks
[04:01] <Orby> its ok :), i've been idle in here for a bit, thought it was time i said something :)
[04:01] <ogra> Orby, nice to meet you then :)
[04:01] <Orby> nice to meet you also :D
[04:04] <Orby> i'm in #ubuntu as well, but its giving me a headache trying to read what people are putting, its just scrolling toooo fast :)
[04:04] <JaneW> yes it's pretty hard to keep up there...
[04:04] <ogra> hehe... yes, i started there too
[04:04] <JaneW> LOTS of users
[04:04] <ogra> only 320... thats not much
[04:05] <ogra> at high times there were always around 500
[04:05] <Orby> wow now that is alot
[04:06] <ogra> yup... it has gone down due to the spambot attacs the last days...
[04:06] <Orby> oh ?
[04:08] <ogra> the attacs are less now... but its still not over i think
[04:19] <highvoltage> almost time to go home. aaaaaah.
[04:23] <magnon> ogra: how is the CD now? :)
[04:23] <ogra> see http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting
[04:23] <ogra> ;)
[04:24] <ogra> the dhcp reload should be fixed today... the ltsp-build-client is a bit more tricky
[04:24] <ogra> but with those two manual steps its fine...
[04:35] <magnon> ok
[06:42] <danjules> 2
[06:43] <Orby> 3
[06:43] <magnon> 4
[06:43] <Orby> 5
[06:46] <danjules> 6
[06:47] <danjules> i tried to switch windows in irssi but i messed up :)
[06:48] <Orby> :D
[06:48] <ogra> well counted guys :)
[06:50] <magnon> ill install the daily cd right now
[06:50] <magnon> hope it works
[06:50] <magnon> :D
[06:51] <ogra> for me it did...
[06:51] <ogra> 3 times ...
[06:51] <magnon> cool
[06:51] <magnon> I have a server and client ready :P
[06:51] <magnon> anything specific you'd like to have tested?
[06:52] <ogra> just run it ... click around a bit try to use some apps... if you find errors, report them...
[06:52] <magnon> ok
[09:09] <cyphase> hey everyone
[09:10] <ogra> hi
[11:45] <yvesC> hi all
[11:46] <yvesC> someone has tested gcompris from universe ?
[11:46] <yvesC> i think the deb is broken
[11:47] <ogra> yvesC, in breezy ? 
[11:49] <yvesC> in hoary.
[11:49] <yvesC> it's fixed in breezy ?
[11:49] <yvesC> gcompris does not find pthon-gtk and run with 50 boards only
[11:50] <ogra> its fixedin breezy....
[11:50] <yvesC> what version is in breezy?
[11:50] <ogra> i havent worked on the hoary package, so i cant judge it, sorry... 
[11:51] <yvesC> you have made the breezy package ?
[11:51] <ogra> i had to add a lot of he 7.0 stuff to make it work with our current compiler... so its a 6.5.3 with some 7.0 love added
[11:53] <yvesC> did you test the 7.0 in ubuntu ?
[11:54] <ogra> nope, i just added the appropriate fixes to 6.5.3 to make it work right...
[11:55] <ogra> but 7.0 should compile fine based on my experience with backporting fixes i just didnt compile the whole cvs version...
[11:55] <ogra> i'm confident we'll see it in breezy+1
[11:55] <yvesC> 7.0 needs pysqlite2. It's in breezy?
[11:55] <ogra> i.e. in 6 weeks
[11:55] <ogra> yup
[11:56] <yvesC> good. So we could make a breezy deb for 7.0
[11:56] <yvesC> thanks. I will test breezy tomorrow.
[11:57] <ogra> great :)
[11:57] <yvesC> in edubuntu there will be all breezy ?
[11:57] <ogra> yup
[11:57] <ogra> and gcompris is preinstalled :)
[11:59] <ogra> if you want to install edubuntu wihout ltsp server, just type "workstation" at the CD bootprompt and you get a normal ubuntu desktop with the edubuntu apps and (not yet) the edubuntu artwork
[11:59] <yvesC> great
[12:00] <yvesC> in lstp case, for classroom, system means a login account for each kid ?
[12:02] <ogra> during install you set up the admin account, afterwards you can add accounts as you like... 
[12:02] <ogra> i.e. one for every kid if you want to :)
[12:03] <yvesC> ok. It's possible to update from hoary to edubuntu workstation directly?
[12:05] <ogra> should be possible... just do a hoary->breezy upgrade and install edubuntu-desktop on top