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nikkiaAgentOrange: don't use GUI apps with sudo12:02
nikkiause kdesu to start a GUI app as root12:02
AgentOrangeim just going by what the page tells me to12:03
AgentOrangei have no linux knowledge what-so-ever12:03
AgentOrangehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:03
AgentOrangeyes, im the noob everyone dreads12:03
AgentOrangeso i replace sudo with kdesu?12:04
nikkiaubuntuguide contains some really bad advice, you're better off using the official wiki12:05
nikkiaAgentOrange: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  will work, yes12:05
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AgentOrangenice12:07
AgentOrangethat worked perfectly12:07
AgentOrangethank you nikkia 12:07
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ilba7ranyone using fluxbox12:24
Tm_Tsometimes yes12:24
AgentOrangeso i edited my /etc/apt/sources.list as said on http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:25
AgentOrangethen did sudo apt-get update12:25
AgentOrangeeverything updated perfectly12:25
AgentOrangebut then when i do sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:26
AgentOrange(http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla)12:26
AgentOrangei get12:26
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-install12:26
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:26
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:26
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-install12:26
XorlevAgentOrange: You tried to install flashplayer-install from what I can see from that paste.12:29
AgentOrangeyeah i did12:29
XorlevIts flashplayer-mozilla.12:29
AgentOrangeer wait12:30
AgentOrangewrong paste12:30
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:30
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:30
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:30
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:30
AgentOrangesorry lol12:30
XorlevYou have the multiverse and backports?12:30
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XorlevYou need the multiverse for flashplayer-mozilla.12:31
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:31
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:31
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:31
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:31
AgentOrangei updated the er12:31
AgentOrangesorry12:31
AgentOrangei edited /etc/apt/sources.list12:32
AgentOrangethen sudo apt-get update12:32
XorlevDid you do an exact paste from ubuntuguide?12:32
AgentOrangeyes12:32
XorlevIf not, rm it, and make a new one.12:33
AgentOrangei will try again12:33
Xorlevsudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list12:33
Xorlevsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:33
XorlevOr you could use kate or whatever to edit it.12:33
AgentOrangeFetched 3998kB in 20s (193kB/s)12:35
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:35
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:35
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:35
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:35
AgentOrangejust tried codecs (which were downloaded with the update also)12:37
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins12:37
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:37
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:37
AgentOrangeThe following extra packages will be installed:12:37
AgentOrangeworked great12:37
XorlevHmm12:37
AgentOrangemaybe the link for that package is dead?12:38
AgentOrangeseems to be missing..12:38
XorlevI'll try reinstalling it12:39
XorlevJust downloaded for me.12:40
XorlevI'll make a paste of my /etc/apt/sources.list12:40
AgentOrangepm please12:41
AgentOrangedont wanna flood chan12:41
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Xorlevhttp://pastebin.com/35476512:43
AgentOrangenice12:47
AgentOrangethank you12:47
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XorlevAck, accidentally pasted the end of the other one too12:48
AgentOrangeyeah12:48
XorlevPaste from line 30 onwards.12:48
AgentOrangethat last line isnt on the the site12:49
AgentOrangeeither12:49
XorlevThats because that guide assumes Ubuntu, not Kubuntu12:49
AgentOrangeoh shoot12:49
AgentOrangei didnt realize that12:49
XorlevThey're the same distro, except Kubuntu has KDE, which is why I added the source for KDE packages.12:50
AgentOrangegotcha12:51
AgentOrangedeb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release powerpc (20050407)] / hoary main restricted12:51
AgentOrangeis the first line of my source.list12:51
AgentOrangei left it there because im not sure what thats for12:51
AgentOrangecould that be effecting any updates?12:51
XorlevThats the CD-ROM, but I doubt it.12:52
XorlevDid my sources not help?12:53
AgentOrangei just updated12:53
AgentOrange1 sec12:53
AgentOrangehrm12:54
AgentOrangeFailed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found12:54
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:54
AgentOrangeW: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde342_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:54
AgentOrangeW: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde342_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:54
AgentOrangeW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems12:54
AgentOrangeE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.12:54
AgentOrangeand also12:55
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:55
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:55
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:55
AgentOrangeW: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde342_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:55
AgentOrangeW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems12:55
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:55
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XorlevComment out the kubuntu line and reupdate then.12:55
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AgentOrangecommented it out12:58
AgentOrangeupdated12:58
AgentOrangeFetched 4B in 1s (2B/s)12:58
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:58
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla12:58
AgentOrangeReading package lists... Done12:58
AgentOrangeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:58
AgentOrangeE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:58
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$                        12:58
AgentOrange:(12:59
XorlevHmm...12:59
AgentOrangei hate being a noob12:59
XorlevIts not n00bism thats the problem methinks.12:59
AgentOrangewell i could probably troubleshoot this on my own if i wasnt a noob01:00
AgentOrangeinstead of wasting your time01:00
AgentOrangelol01:00
XorlevI'm bored to death anyways, my kernel is recompiling.01:01
XorlevI'll download the flashplayer-mozilla .deb and let you download it, but you're on your own for any dependencys.01:02
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XorlevNo idea why your doesn't work01:08
AgentOrangeweird,,01:11
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AgentOrangei was instructed to go to System -> Preferences -> Sound02:10
AgentOrangebut K Menu -> System only shows a hand full of apps02:10
AgentOrangeno Prefrences tree02:10
crimsunSystem> Preferences> Sound is a GNOMEism02:15
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AgentOrangeahh02:16
crimsunit's placed differently in KDE02:16
Tm_T=)02:16
AgentOrangei can get to sound from the control center02:16
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AgentOrangereboot02:18
AgentOrangebrb02:18
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_john_hey, how do you configure the nvidia settings?02:20
_john_i installed nvidia-glz02:20
_john_*glx02:20
_john_but how do i configure it?02:20
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AgentOrangeim trying to access a network shared folder02:31
AgentOrangethe folder is called "My files"02:31
AgentOrangebut when i put in smb://192.168.0.1/my files02:31
AgentOrangebash: smb://192.168.0.11/my: No such file or directory02:32
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$02:32
usrxmy\ files02:33
usrxoh02:33
usrxnot from a console02:34
usrxtry typing that into konqueror02:34
AgentOrangedoh02:37
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flughhow can i delete all messages from kmail? where's it stuffed at?02:41
flughugh, sorry. guess it's ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail :)02:41
AgentOrangewhats the keyboard shortcut to swap between desktops?02:46
usrxctrl+tab02:46
usrxctrl+shift+tab to go the other way02:46
AgentOrangethank you02:47
usrxnp02:47
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_john_hey, how do i install quake 2 on kubuntu?02:53
_john_I have my quake II cd02:53
_john_and all the expansions, big fan >_<02:53
_john_eh... ill just check the uber guide in ubuntu gaming.02:54
AgentOrangehow do you pronounce ubuntu02:56
AgentOrangeoo-bun-two?02:56
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crimsunoo boon too02:58
usrxoo-BOON-too02:59
usrxyes02:59
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anaccountquick question folks03:09
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anaccountIS this romm alive at all?03:11
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anaccountroom*03:11
Tm_Trum!?03:11
Tm_Twhere!?!03:11
anaccountlol03:11
anaccounti have plenty03:11
Tm_Tbah03:11
Tm_Tyeah, rrright03:12
Tm_Twell, I ain't see any03:12
anaccountmeanwhile I have a question03:12
anaccountI can't seem to figure out how to manually install a theme for firefox03:12
anaccountmust be hard to get rum in finland03:13
anaccount(yes this was a stupid comment)03:14
anaccountthis blows03:15
Tm_T:/03:17
Tm_Tgetting some rum isn't that hard...03:17
Tm_Tgetting some _good_ rum is03:18
Tm_Tbut anyway, what you mean by "maunal"03:18
Tm_Ts/maunal/manual03:18
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cleit0nhi, how i install kde 3.4.2 in debian03:19
Tm_Tin debian?03:19
Tm_Thumm03:20
Tm_Twell well well, apt-get.org?03:20
cleit0nnothing there03:21
cleit0nTm_T: i put in my source.slist onde mirror ubuntu, but dont work03:21
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Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php03:22
cleit0nTm_T: i do this, but dont download in apt-get install kde ou kdebase03:23
Tm_Tyay03:24
Tm_T:/03:24
Tm_Tok, I need some sleep, I hope you find solution to your problem03:25
Tm_Tgood night/morning :)03:25
Tm_T->03:25
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odathello everyone03:32
odati just installed kubuntu and i need help with getting sound03:32
kalenedraelok, i assume it doesn't work right now03:36
kalenedraeldo you have any details?03:36
odatwell i can't alsaconf to come up either03:37
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crimsunubuntu and kubuntu removed alsaconf. Don't bother.03:37
crimsunit was largely useless anyhow.03:37
odatk well i don't have any sound in ubuntu i had perfect sound03:37
crimsunso what are the details?03:38
odatof what i have installed as far as sound go?03:38
crimsunno, of the hardware03:39
odatits a via chip 03:39
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crimsunlspci -v |grep -i audio03:39
odatVIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)03:40
crimsunlsmod|grep ^snd_via03:40
odatsnd_via82xx            25792  203:41
crimsunodat: now paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:42
odatamixer?03:42
crimsunyes, amixer03:42
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odatis paste.ubuntulinux.nl a file on my system or something i get to from the terminal03:44
crimsunit's a Web site03:44
odatand?03:46
AgentOrangeim trying to mount a network folder called "my files"03:46
crimsuntell me the url you pasted that info to03:46
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo mount //192.168.0.11/my files /media/my files03:46
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AgentOrangebut the space between is messing it up03:47
AgentOrangedo i put quotes around it?03:47
crimsunAgentOrange: quote it03:47
crimsunor use a \03:47
AgentOrangeahh ok03:47
AgentOrangethank you03:47
odathttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/191203:48
crimsunamixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off03:49
odatcrimsun: in the terminal right ?03:49
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crimsunyes03:50
odatk03:50
odatgot it03:50
AgentOrangehrm03:53
odatwhat else?03:53
crimsunthat's it03:53
odatdo i need to restart or something03:53
odator should i just have sound now03:53
crimsunno03:53
crimsunyou should have sound03:53
AgentOrangemit@orange:~$ sudo mount "//192.168.0.11/my music" /home/mit/mp3/network03:53
AgentOrangemount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.11/my music,03:53
AgentOrange       missing codepage or other error03:53
AgentOrange       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try03:53
AgentOrange       dmesg | tail  or so03:53
crimsunAgentOrange: pass the filesystem type using -t03:53
AgentOrangethank you03:53
AgentOrange:( im such a friggin noob03:54
odatcrimsun: cool i did the test button and i have sound  but i always have a problem with cd's03:54
crimsunmake sure you've configured kscd to use digital extraction03:55
odatcrimsun is that a setting within kscd?03:56
crimsunshould be03:56
odatk03:58
odatcrimsun thanx for helping crimsun really appreciate it03:58
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crimsunnp03:58
lurchhi everyone03:58
odatby the way here is a silly question i'm sure but i'm still trying to get icons on the desktop like the computer icon and the trashcan or even just folder lol03:59
odatits different in gnome than here so i'm not sure03:59
lurchi have a question, i recently converted my system over to kubuntu.  How do you get .deb or build .sh packages03:59
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odatlurch have you used synaptic yet?04:00
lurchyes04:00
lurchproblem is the file is local04:00
odatdo you have your repositories on for universe?04:00
lurchwhat is that04:00
odatopen up synaptic04:00
lurchk04:01
odatdo you see the ones that are greyed out?04:01
lurchyup04:01
odatenable them04:01
lurchok04:01
lurchic04:01
lurchthen i can just navigate to the desktop and install correct04:02
odatthat will open up a lot more software for you04:02
lurchic04:02
lurchi am looking to install crossover office04:02
odatall you have to do is mark for installation then click apply and let synaptic do the rest04:02
lurchok04:03
lurchbrb04:03
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ManLordwhen mounting fat32 disk in fstab, how to allow all users to read/write?04:04
odatanyone know how i add the trashcan and other icons to the desktop?04:04
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odatanyone know how i put the trashcan and computer icon on the desktop?04:10
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odat?04:14
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__statici very much like the way kubuntu defaults to no icons on the desktop.04:33
__statici think i'll keep it that way04:33
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odatanyone know how to change the icon size?04:43
Hobbsee_kcontrol, icons?04:44
Hobbsee_double-sized pixels option...04:44
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BROKEN_LADDERi have set up gstreamer to use artsd but when i try to use an app like rhythmbox, it crashes on play.04:56
BROKEN_LADDER:(04:56
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BROKEN_LADDERhow do i get flac support for juk?05:14
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user02jakarta05:46
user02alooo05:46
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AgentOrangehow do i install flash on PPC?05:49
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AgentOrangei tried this, but im not running mozilla.. so thats probably why its not working05:53
AgentOrangehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla05:53
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AgentOrangecan i install flash on kubuntu PPC?06:05
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lascarcan anyone tell me how to switch Firefox profiles?06:10
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lascaranyone?06:21
lascar!firefox06:21
ubotulascar: Do they come in packets of five?06:21
lascar:)06:21
Totax!firefox06:22
ubotuTotax: I don't know06:22
Totaxubotu.` what?06:22
lascarit's a bot06:24
lascar!kde06:24
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/06:24
lascar!linus toorvald06:25
ubotulascar: Not a clue06:25
yonkel-lappyrrr my video is choppy! using kaffeien06:25
lascartry xine06:25
lascaror vlc06:25
yonkel-lappyvlc06:27
yonkel-lappyinteresting06:27
lascarsudo apt get-install vlc06:27
lascaryonkel-lappy: or you can browse for it in kynaptic06:27
lascari just prefer konsole06:27
yonkel-lappyi prefer konsole also06:28
yonkel-lappyhmmm not showing up06:29
yonkel-lappywould ogg theora be choppier than some other format?06:29
lascar"not showing up?"  what do you mean?06:30
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yonkel-lappyvlc screen is blank06:32
yonkel-lappysigh06:32
lascar?06:33
lascaryou mean, when you start it...it's blank?06:34
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citrosackanyone know how to make my movies have a little preview with them in konqueror, you know like a little image clip?06:36
lascarswitch to icon view06:37
lascarand be patient06:37
lascarthat was for you, citrosack06:37
citrosackthank you06:37
citrosacki will try    i am using gnome right now  it it works   i was thinking of trying kde  and last time i was in kde with gentoo i remember it not working06:38
citrosackis there an easy way of trying out  kde  while in ubuntu?    would apt-get install kde work and they just select the right DE at login?06:39
crimsuninstall kubuntu-desktop06:40
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lascarcitrosack: sudo apt-get install kde06:41
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eddrexi can't install kde python bindings with the 3.4.2 repos. is that a known issue?06:46
eddrexpython2.3-kde3:06:48
eddrex  Depends: python2.3-qt3 (<3.13) but 3.13-4ubuntu2 is to be installed06:48
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lascar!ren06:52
ubotulascar: Do they come in packets of five?06:52
lascar!rename06:52
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Bill_Braskeyis there flash for ubuntu PPC?07:24
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Bill_Braskeyis there flash for ubuntu PPC?07:52
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seaLnehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.346970338707:57
seaLnenot entirely sure tho if that works for ppc07:58
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Bill_BraskeyseaLne: thats for java08:04
Bill_Braskeyim looking for flash08:04
seaLnethe title is "How can I do Flash, Java or mp3 ?"08:05
Bill_Braskeyno java replies tho :(08:05
Bill_Braskeyer08:05
Bill_Braskeyno flash replies08:05
seaLneread the bit at the top08:06
seaLnebut just thinking now not even sure if the real linux player works on anything other than x8608:07
Bill_Braskeypoop08:07
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odatwho know how to create a symlink in kde?08:10
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yonkel-lappyis there a way to choose which of the available wireless networks i can connect to?08:12
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yonkel-lappyis there a way to choose which of the available wireless networks i can connect to?08:18
seaLneyonkel-lappy: kwifimanager08:18
yonkel-lappyseaLne: it's not letting me choose which networks i can connect to08:19
yonkel-lappysudo ifdown eth1; sudo ifup eth1 still connects me to my neighbors network08:19
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seaLnedosen't "scan for networks" list others that you can pick?08:20
yonkel-lappyit doesn't let me pick them08:20
yonkel-lappyi can click and double click till i turn blue08:20
yonkel-lappybut all it is, is a list08:20
seaLnesorry i don't have wireless at home so i can't check08:21
yonkel-lappyit's ok08:21
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BROKEN_LADDERhow can i find out which device is my cdrom?08:26
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aftertafBROKEN_LADDER:  look in /etc/fstab08:30
BROKEN_LADDERhow would that tell me anything?08:31
BROKEN_LADDERi never put an entry in there that i know of.08:31
BROKEN_LADDERi had been using gnome where it took care of this for me08:31
aftertafwhen you installed, was it on CD?08:34
aftertafshouldve put an entry there.... 08:34
aftertafotherwise, open the box and see if it is on primary/secondary IDE.08:34
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to get jackd working in kubuntu?08:38
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Bill_Braskeyis there flash for ubuntu PPC?08:45
seaLneBROKEN_LADDER: type media:/ into konqueror and it should show you the cd08:46
BROKEN_LADDERokay..08:49
BROKEN_LADDERbut the device my dvd usually occupies is not there08:49
BROKEN_LADDER/dev/scd008:49
BROKEN_LADDERit's not even showing up.08:49
BROKEN_LADDERgrip can't even eject the drive.08:49
seaLnethe 2.6 linux kernel dosen't need ide-scsi08:49
seaLneit will be /dev/hdc or something08:49
seaLne/dev/cdrw should be a link to it08:52
BROKEN_LADDERuhh08:56
BROKEN_LADDERno, there is no such link08:56
BROKEN_LADDERit was always /dev/scd0 before08:56
BROKEN_LADDERin gnome08:56
BROKEN_LADDERthe only /dev/h* i have is hda and hdc which are hard drives. :(08:57
Bill_Braskeyi like ponies08:58
seaLneit would have been /dev/scd0 in older linux kernels08:58
seaLneweird its not showing up08:59
seaLnemy dvd is /dev/hdd at home and at work i have /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd08:59
seaLneBROKEN_LADDER: so ls /dev/hd* only lists hdaX and hdcX devices?09:01
BROKEN_LADDERbut those are my hard drives09:01
seaLnewhat does ls -l /dev/cdrw show?09:01
BROKEN_LADDERyes09:01
BROKEN_LADDERnothing09:01
BROKEN_LADDERmy computer is periodically going wayyy slow09:01
BROKEN_LADDERsomething is wrong09:01
BROKEN_LADDERrebooting09:02
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BROKEN_LADDERmy dvdrw is not here :(09:10
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odatdoes anyone know how to make firefox the system default browser??09:30
aftertafcontrol ceter > default apps.... somewhere i think09:36
aftertafcontrol ceter > KDE Components > Component Chooser: speciy in 'web browser' section09:37
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to mount a network folder?10:09
aftertafwhat have you tried?10:09
aftertaf!samba10:09
ubotusamba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:09
aftertaf!nfs10:09
fatejudgerI tried the GUI version10:09
fatejudgerbut it's more of a shortcut than a mount10:09
aftertafhehe10:10
aftertafnever done it yet... linux standalone only experience i have :(10:10
fatejudgerright10:10
fatejudgerI just need it because many programs don't let you search network folders10:11
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fatejudgeraftertaf: do I have to restart after editing the fstab?10:15
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nikkiasmbfs has been deprecated in favour of cifs for 'ages' now10:18
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fatejudger!samba10:27
ubotusamba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:27
aftertaf!cifs10:27
ubotuaftertaf: Not a clue10:27
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spiralhi10:43
aftertafhi10:45
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Tm_Thi kids10:58
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fatejudgerI'm trying to get this network drive mounted using fstab11:07
fatejudgerbut it asks for a password when I restart11:08
fatejudgerand then says access denied11:08
fatejudgerit doesn't ask me for any password when I manually mount it11:08
fatejudgermy windows computer has no password11:08
fatejudgeranyone?11:09
aftertafhave you looked into cifs ?11:10
fatejudger?11:10
fatejudgercifs?11:10
aftertafthink it was that... the thing that has replaced smbfs...11:10
aftertafjust repeating what s/one said last time....11:10
fatejudgerwell11:11
fatejudgersmbfs works perfectly11:11
aftertafoi.11:11
fatejudgerI just don't know the command for the fstab11:11
aftertafok.11:11
aftertaftry in #ubuntu... more ppl there11:11
fatejudgerok11:11
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fatejudgerwell that didn't work very well11:14
fatejudgerthere are too many people in there11:14
fatejudgerlol11:14
aftertaf:/11:15
aftertaferf11:15
aftertafaha...11:15
aftertafyou have a bite11:15
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nikkiafatejudger: no, smbfs doesn't 'work perfectly', it doesn't support the win2k3 authentication properly, for example11:18
fatejudgernikkia: well it's working fine in the manual mount11:18
fatejudgernikkia: just not in the fstab11:18
fatejudgernikkia: I think the command I'm using is wrong11:18
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nikkiafatejudger: i really think you should try cifs, you might find it 'just works' :)11:27
nikkiasmbfs has all kinds of issues, and hasn't really been updated since 200311:27
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setiteanyoen have a broadcom 54g card?11:30
seaLneyeah11:32
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Tm_Turrrh11:47
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aftertafmy kicker just crashed... :/11:54
aftertafhow can i get it to run again and not close when i quit the terminal window (running term thru a shortcut, then yping kicker & )11:55
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Tm_Tkaiser o/ o/ o712:11
Kamping_Kaisero_0 tm12:11
Tm_Thullo12:11
Kamping_Kaiserhow are you?12:12
Tm_Tok, in school, boring12:13
Tm_Tyou?12:13
Kamping_Kaiserin school? :\12:13
Tm_Tyes12:13
Kamping_KaiserI'm trying to read Ubuntu-users emailing list12:13
Tm_T:)12:13
Kamping_Kaiserlast 15 days 12:13
Kamping_Kaiser:o12:13
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Kamping_Kaisergot 600 more emails to go :/12:14
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Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: heh, I can't really read my emails... so there's ~1800 unread mails :/12:15
Kamping_KaiserTm_T: there was for me 2 days ago :( it's a process alright12:16
Tm_Theh12:16
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's been happening here?12:19
Tm_Tdunno12:20
Kamping_Kaiserlol. same as always ;D nothing12:20
Tm_Theh12:21
Tm_TI'm waiting my adsl connection and breezy kernel freeze12:21
Kamping_Kaisernot long untill the latter... cant comment on the former :D12:21
Tm_T=)12:22
Kamping_KaiserTm_T: your using Breezy now?12:22
Tm_Tnope12:22
Tm_Tnot until kernel freeze12:23
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Tm_Tnikkia: heyyy you!12:24
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Tm_Thaha12:24
nikkiaTm_T: morning12:24
Tm_Tnikkia: good morning12:24
Kamping_Kaiserhi nikkia12:25
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nikkiaanyone know why sourceforge is rejecting anon-cvs ?12:29
Tm_Thmm, I've seen a lot of trouble in sf lately12:30
Tm_Tlike, try to download filezilla ;)12:30
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nikkiatm_t, they went thru a really terrible patch in 2001, where they were inaccessible about 80% of the time, but recently, they've been 'ok'12:31
nikkiabut its not letting me access cvs at all :/12:31
Tm_T:/12:31
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  u on breezy?12:32
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nikkiasometimes pinning all of FOSS development on a single 'vaguely dodgy' site like sf worries me12:32
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: yes, *ubuntu* Breezy12:32
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: why do you ask?12:33
nikkia('vaguely dodgy' because sf has a subscription service, and could limit users to paying for access to source code on a whim)12:33
nikkiaand its not like OSTG has a history of doing no evil :P12:33
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: more then faguely then12:34
Kamping_Kaiser*v->f12:34
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nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: what worries me, is this is how it would happen, if they go all evil, anon-cvs would just stop working and you'd need to be a registered/subscribed user to access cvs *shudder*12:34
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: but, of course, it could just be a glitch, or routine maintenance *shrug*12:34
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aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  just wondering ;)12:35
nikkianothing on their homepage about cvs being down, tho, although it is still sort of night there12:35
jimmy_neutronhi :)12:35
Kamping_Kaiserhi jimmy_neutron12:35
jimmy_neutronI just installed kubuntu 5.04 on my "averatec 6200" Laptop (widescreen 1280x800) and after the instalation the screen is black,...12:35
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: hope for the best untill the worst12:35
nikkiagah, i can't get mingw32 to build :(12:36
Kamping_Kaiserjimmy_neutron: what does pressing ctrl +alt+f2 give you?12:36
jimmy_neutronhmm... didn't try that but ctrl+alt+f1 did nothing,... - trying f2 now *mom*12:37
jimmy_neutron(if it somehow matters, i could only run the installer with the parameters "vga=771 noapic nolapic acpi=off")12:38
jimmy_neutronctrl+alt+f2 does nothing either12:39
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DVSoftwarei have problems after upgrading to breezy, actually my usb hard drive is no longer in "Storage Media"12:39
DVSoftwareand i have to mount it manually12:40
nikkiajimmy_neutron: it sounds like X is trying to use the wrong driver, or a driver that claims to support your chipset but doesn't12:43
jimmy_neutronhmm... that sounds bad12:44
nikkia(ubuntu people: this is why you include a runlevel that doesn't run X !!!!)12:45
jimmy_neutronguess the only thing remaining now is search arround for the correct driver right?12:45
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aftertafinit 312:45
aftertaf:)12:45
nikkiajimmy_neutron: you'll need to work out a way to edit the file with a non-working screen12:45
nikkiaaftertaf: erm, that starts X on [k] ubuntu12:45
nikkiaaftertaf: they ALL start X, which is a BAD idea12:45
aftertafinit 2 then...12:46
jimmy_neutronwell there is this recovery mode where i get a root-shell12:46
aftertafreally???????!12:46
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: exept 112:46
nikkiaaftertaf: yes, really12:46
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  god!! use it12:46
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: yeah, but then you have to deal with remounting /12:46
Kamping_Kaiser0 1 and 6 ;D12:46
aftertafgood12:46
jimmy_neutronyeah, the problem is i don't know what to type in xD12:46
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: and you probably can't test X in run level 1 :/12:46
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: no, you cant :-/12:47
aftertaflol12:47
Kamping_Kaiseror you can haxor your inits12:47
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: i've said before that not including an X-less runlevel is a silly idea12:47
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Kamping_Kaisernikkia: i tentd to agree tbh12:47
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: thats what i'd do, runlevel 1 it, remount /, remove X startup from one of the runlevels, and switch runlevel12:47
Naliothgood morning all12:48
Kamping_Kaisershould be 1 single user 2 xless 3 gui12:48
aftertafhi Nalioth 12:48
Kamping_Kaiserhi Nalioth12:48
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aftertafand changed name too ;)12:48
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nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: technically, it should be 2=network less, 3 = X less, 4/5 = X12:48
Naliothbrb, just walked in and need to take the dog for a walk12:48
aftertafnikkia:  thats what i thought12:48
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: runlevel 2 was always supposed to be 'multi-user, no network'12:48
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: meh :) that's to complex12:48
DVSoftwarekillall Xorg :D12:48
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: ie, an area where you can fix things without worrying about that rootkit that you're cleaning up after :)12:48
Kamping_Kaisernikkia: :) isnt that 1?12:49
aftertafhehe DVSoftware :)12:49
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: no12:49
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: as discussed, there are things you can't do in single-user mode :/12:49
Kamping_Kaiser:/ clean you proot kits i thought can be12:49
aftertafeven with the right hand??12:49
Kamping_Kaiser*up root12:49
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DVSoftwarew00t! kit :D12:50
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: sure you COULD do it in runlevel 1, assuming you don't need to run any X programs to do the clean-up :)12:50
Kamping_Kaiser:) so not UNIX using x programs to clean up rootkits12:50
Kamping_Kaiserback before my day.... 12:50
nikkiaKamping_Kaiser: depends on what you're cleaning12:50
Kamping_Kaisertrue. lol . why I'm i talking about this? *_*12:51
nikkiawoo, sf's anon-cvs is back up12:51
nikkiaho ho ho, and evil-ness runs rampant at the office :)12:52
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:52
jimmy_neutronwow, i think i made it, X runs, yay xD12:52
nikkia(we promised a s/w release on friday...12:52
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Kamping_Kaiser*team12:52
nikkiabut the code wasn't 100% finished, so we told them we made a release, then 'accidently' broke the FTP server so they couldn't access it :)12:52
jimmy_neutronhmm... can12:53
jimmy_neutronsry12:53
NaliothKamping_Kaiser: please do12:53
Kamping_Kaiserrofl nikkia12:53
jimmy_neutronhmm... can't i set a root-pass? (the installer didn't ask anything like that)12:53
Nalioth!tell jimmy_neutron about root12:54
jimmy_neutron:,(12:54
Kamping_Kaiser:D12:55
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  w00t :)12:55
nikkiaanyone remember the name of that util that auto-creates symlinks from one place to another for binaries ?12:55
jimmy_neutronsudo -i <-- is that what I'm searching for? :>12:56
nikkiajimmy_neutron: sudo -i will give you a root shell, yes12:56
Kamping_Kaiserjimmy_neutron: or sudo -s12:57
jimmy_neutronkk, thx12:57
Naliothso did y'all miss me while i was at work? lol12:58
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nikkiaNalioth: nope, not at all :P12:59
aftertafNalioth:  nope... there was this lonedog person who kept us on our toes.. ;)12:59
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Naliothnikkia: you missed me (i was in #ubuntu in my office nick)01:00
Naliothaftertaf: my dog stays in #ubuntu to give advice01:00
jimmy_neutrondo i need special drivers or somethinkg for that "amd power now" stuff so the processor doesn't get to hot?01:00
aftertafhehe01:01
Naliothjimmy_neutron: i believe it's 'powernowd'01:01
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jimmy_neutronthat means i have to type something like "apt-get powernowd"? (still new with debian - used mandrake before)01:02
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Naliothjimmy_neutron: you can use synaptic01:03
jimmy_neutronsynaptic?01:03
Naliothjimmy_neutron: do you like terminal or gui better?01:03
jimmy_neutrongui would be better for me but, terminal is easier when asking for help over irc,...01:04
Naliothjimmy_neutron: hit the "K", "run command" and type synaptic  <enter>01:05
Naliothor click 'ok'01:05
jimmy_neutronkk01:06
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jimmy_neutronwhen i type synaptic into the shell is says command not found :>01:08
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  need to sudo or b root01:08
Naliothholy cow01:08
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Naliothjimmy_neutron: guess we're gonna get into terminal land then01:09
jimmy_neutronyeah i did sudo -i entered the pass, and typed synaptic01:09
jimmy_neutronok,...01:09
aftertafdo "apt-get install synaptic" then01:09
jimmy_neutronkk01:09
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jimmy_neutroncan i specify a language too?01:09
aftertafwhich one do u prefer?01:10
Naliothjimmy_neutron: that is in your control center, i believe01:10
jimmy_neutronkk01:10
aftertafosterreich? that right?01:10
jimmy_neutronyeah01:10
jimmy_neutronde-at01:10
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Naliothaftertaf: austria?01:12
jimmy_neutronok, when i type synaptic now it tells me "Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display:"01:12
jimmy_neutronyeah austria :)01:12
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aftertafhehe yeah, me being clever... Nalioth 01:12
Naliothjimmy_neutron: "apt-get install kynaptic"01:12
aftertafNalioth:  ahh, true, easier to begin with01:13
Naliothaftertaf: ich spreche kein deutch01:13
aftertafNalioth:  me neither..... :)01:13
jimmy_neutronxD01:13
Naliothaftertaf: the lack of the weird willies on my US keyboard stops a lot of it01:13
jimmy_neutronshould i deinstall synaptic again than?01:14
Naliothjimmy_neutron: no leave it, its not hurting anything01:14
jimmy_neutronkynaptic "cannot connect to xserver" :\01:14
aftertafhh01:14
Naliothjimmy_neutron: what kind of install do you have?01:15
jimmy_neutronanyways, i think doing it over apt-get may be easier xD01:15
jimmy_neutron5.0401:15
Naliothcuz its weird that nothing can see your xserver. are you running one?01:15
jimmy_neutronyeah01:16
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Naliothso yeah, "apt-get install powernowd" from a terminal using root priveleges01:16
jimmy_neutronkk, thx01:17
jimmy_neutronit seems like it's allready installed ok (hope there is nothing i need to configure *cross-fingers*01:18
Naliothjimmy_neutron: drop out of your root terminal (if you're still in one)01:18
Naliothjimmy_neutron: and type "ps aux|grep powernowd" and see if its running01:19
jimmy_neutron. /usr/sbin/powernowd is running01:20
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jimmy_neutronxD01:20
jimmy_neutronok, now to the battery,...01:21
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aftertafjimmy_neutron:  the xserver error...01:26
teuxichi01:26
aftertafits not an access refused type error is it?01:26
nikkiaaftertaf: no, its a YOU SHOULD USE KDESU TO RUN GUI PROGRAMS AS ROOT error :P01:27
aftertafoki01:28
nikkiai don't know how many times people here need to be told before it'll sink in, really01:28
jimmy_neutronohh there is a lot of stuff different here xD01:28
Naliothnikkia: he was tryin to install synaptic or kynaptic from a terminal01:28
aftertafis that with the xhost localhost protocol error typ thing.01:28
aftertafnikkia:  i've said it before, and i'll say it again...01:29
Naliothnikkia: but since i've had no sleep all weekend, you are entirely correct01:29
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nikkiaNalioth: no, he tried to run synaptic from a sudo -i session - won't work, a) DISPLAY won't be set, b) authentication for X won't be setup, c) even if you fix a and b, it'll mess up your X session for other gnome/gtk apps01:29
Naliothand i've suffered and id10t error01:29
Naliothnikkia: sorry01:29
Naliothjimmy_neutron: sorry01:29
Naliothjimmy_neutron: from the "k" menu > run command > "kdesu synaptid"01:30
aftertafso in a non w00t xterm, you can use kdesu synaptic to run synaptic...?01:30
jimmy_neutronmom01:30
buzin konsole you can01:31
buzxterm i dont use01:31
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jimmy_neutroni typed it in but nothing happened (no errors either)01:31
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aftertafsynaptic or synaptid01:31
Naliothmebbe the booger aint installed01:32
Naliothjimmy_neutron: try it with kynaptic01:32
jimmy_neutronyeah that works :D01:32
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jimmy_neutronbig thx01:32
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Naliothi hate autoreconnecting terminals01:33
jimmy_neutroncould you help me with this "apm" thingy? it says the battery has -1% power :>01:37
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aftertafoh dear...01:38
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  plug it in to the mains, quick!!! :D01:39
jimmy_neutronmains?01:39
Naliothjimmy_neutron: the power line that comes into your house01:39
Nalioththe big thick round one01:39
jimmy_neutronlol01:39
jimmy_neutronit's already pluged - stil -1%01:40
jimmy_neutronthe battery has according to windows 100%,...01:40
jimmy_neutronisn't firefox installed on kubuntu 5.04?01:43
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aftertafjimmy_neutron:  nope.01:45
jimmy_neutronkk01:45
aftertafno need with konqueror01:45
[ITA] MisterXHI ALL! :)01:45
Naliothaftertaf: <ahem>01:45
aftertaf(no need) to be discussed.... but for space reasons on the cd, maybe, not essential01:45
jimmy_neutronwell, konqueror has serious problems with gmail01:45
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[ITA] MisterXWhy I can't find cdrdao package with apt?01:45
aftertafNalioth:  they could put opera maybe?? ;)01:45
aftertaf[ITA] MisterX:  add multiverse01:46
[ITA] MisterXwhat? :D01:46
aftertaf!info cdrdao01:46
ubotucdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB01:46
jimmy_neutronaftertaf: np, i just asked so that i knew what to do - either continue searching or instaling,...01:46
[ITA] MisterXIs that an apt source?01:46
aftertafnot even multiverse, sorry!!!01:46
aftertafhave you enabled the ther repositories since install?01:46
[ITA] MisterXI suppose...01:46
aftertaf..the other...01:46
jimmy_neutronshould i use apt-get or sould i donwload it from gefirefox.com?01:47
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  in general, better with apt-get01:47
jimmy_neutronok,... :)01:47
aftertafupdates when available01:47
[ITA] MisterXWhere I can find updated apt sources?01:47
[ITA] MisterX(for sources.list of course)01:48
jimmy_neutronhmm... what's the exact name of the package?01:48
Naliothjimmy_neutron: use the repos whenever possible01:48
jimmy_neutronrepos?01:48
Naliothjimmy_neutron: firefox or mozilla-firefox01:48
jimmy_neutronk01:48
jimmy_neutronthx01:48
Naliothjimmy_neutron: use what ubuntu recommends, cuz using other sources for programs can break your box01:48
Nalioth!tell jimmy_neutron about sources01:49
jimmy_neutronkk, thx01:49
jimmy_neutronwell, the installer preconfigured the system with some sources himself, guess that ok too right?01:51
Naliothjimmy_neutron: yes, they are listed in the link ubotu sent you01:52
jimmy_neutronkk01:53
jimmy_neutrondoes anybody know the name for the opera apt-get package?01:53
Naliothjimmy_neutron: use synaptic or kynaptic (it makes searching so much easier)01:54
jimmy_neutronok01:54
Naliothjimmy_neutron: and you'll also need to enable all the sources ubotu sent you in that link01:54
Nalioth!info opera01:54
Nalioth!info opera-browser01:55
Naliothjimmy_neutron: i'll have to hunt the SOB down another time01:55
[ITA] MisterXI hadn't multiverse sources :/01:55
Naliothfor now, i need a nap01:55
aftertaflooool Nalioth 01:56
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aftertafNalioth:  i've partied all weekend, and now it is 2pm...01:56
jimmy_neutronohh i need all urls?01:56
aftertafbed://01:57
aftertafa good url i like a lot :)01:57
aftertafbed://for.many.hours/offline.zZz01:57
Naliothy'all help jimmy_neutron get sorted with his repos01:58
aftertafnalioth_zZz:  will try :)01:58
nalioth_zZzjimmy_neutron: if they can't help ya, you can ask in #ubuntu01:58
jimmy_neutroncould i get that ubotu msg about packets again? :>01:59
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  where u at... you got kynaptic loaded and ready yet ?? ;)01:59
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  you can yourself...01:59
aftertaftype !repos01:59
aftertaf:)01:59
aftertaf!repos01:59
ubotufrom memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:59
jimmy_neutronyeah i got kynaptic working01:59
aftertafcool.01:59
jimmy_neutronbut there is nothing with opera in it01:59
jimmy_neutron!repos01:59
nalioth_zZzjimmy_neutron: once you enable all the repos, i think you might find opera02:00
aftertafhang on a sec...02:00
jimmy_neutron_might_ <-- yay xD02:00
jimmy_neutron!repos02:00
ubotufrom memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:00
jimmy_neutronahh sry02:00
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  you got synaptic installed or not?02:01
jimmy_neutronyes02:01
jimmy_neutronit's installed02:01
jimmy_neutronboth, synaptic and kynaptic02:01
aftertafclose kynaptic and run synaptic then02:02
jimmy_neutronok02:02
jimmy_neutronnow?02:02
aftertafgoto settings > repositories on the menu02:03
jimmy_neutronyeah,... ?02:03
aftertafand enable all those you see disabled....02:03
aftertafand disable cdrom02:03
jimmy_neutronok02:03
aftertafhow many lines do you have?02:03
aftertafroughly02:04
aftertafi have 1502:04
jimmy_neutron10 (excl. cdrom)02:04
aftertafok02:04
aftertafyou see some with 'universe' in the section part?02:04
jimmy_neutronyeha02:04
jimmy_neutron*yeah02:04
aftertafok, add the word multiverse to each entry that has universe02:05
jimmy_neutronk, mom02:05
aftertaf;)02:05
jimmy_neutronadd or replace?02:06
aftertafok, while u do that... i'll keep on typing to explain..02:06
aftertafadd...02:06
jimmy_neutronkk02:06
aftertafSection(s) : universe multiverse  02:06
jimmy_neutronk02:06
aftertafyou have URL, Distribution, Section02:06
aftertafnow... add this line as a new entry.:02:06
aftertafurl: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/02:07
aftertafDist: hoary-updates02:07
aftertafsection: main  02:07
jimmy_neutronk, mom02:07
aftertafhttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main02:08
aftertafis a nother way of putting it.02:08
aftertafurl                  dist          section(s)02:08
jimmy_neutronok, done02:08
aftertafok02:09
aftertaf!repos02:09
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:09
aftertafgoto paste02:09
aftertaf______________^^^02:09
jimmy_neutronI'm there (paste)02:09
aftertafer... for now maybe not needed...02:10
aftertafi need sleep too ;)02:10
aftertafvalidate your repositories by clicking OK.02:10
aftertafthen click the RELOAD button02:10
jimmy_neutronok, i should add all of these sources too?02:10
aftertafjimmy_neutron:  i dont know.... maybe god idea, maybe not.02:11
jimmy_neutrono002:11
jimmy_neutronwhat is the difference between multiverse and universe categories?02:12
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aftertafnot same packages... apart from that no idea.02:15
aftertafhave you updated synaptic now?02:15
jimmy_neutronyeah02:16
jimmy_neutronstill no opera02:16
aftertafme neither02:16
aftertafit does co$t though..02:16
jimmy_neutronohh i see02:17
jimmy_neutrongues that means i should get it from opera.com - right?02:17
aftertaferf. yep.02:18
aftertafdo you NEED opera, or is it a want thing02:19
jimmy_neutronwell i don't _need_ it but it's my prefered browser02:19
aftertafhehe02:19
aftertafgo to opera and install then ;)02:19
aftertaffreedom of chice is just tht ;)02:20
jimmy_neutron:D02:20
apokryphosNo standard repository has opera, yes. They have a perfectly workin' Ubuntu .deb at their site though02:23
jimmy_neutrondoes it work with kubuntu too?02:24
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: Of course. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE.02:25
aftertafhehe apo02:25
aftertafor Ubuntu is Kubuntu without KDE02:25
aftertafKubuntu vs Gubuntu02:26
apokryphosKind of. Kubuntu = ubuntu-base + kubuntu-desktop, though.02:26
apokryphosAnd Ubuntu precedes Kubuntu chronologically ;-)02:26
aftertaftrue....02:27
aftertafbut Kubuntu pwns02:27
jimmy_neutronabout apm, does anyone know why the battery has -1% charge?02:27
aftertaflooooool02:27
aftertafnot for your apm pb ;)02:28
jimmy_neutronpb?02:28
aftertafthe loooool02:28
aftertaf;)02:28
jimmy_neutronohh and is there any howto about grub? i've always used lilo so far,...02:29
aftertaf!grub02:30
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:30
jimmy_neutronnice *g* - thx02:30
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jimmy_neutronok, have to leave now02:55
jimmy_neutronthx & cu02:55
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reagleBRKLNi want to build latest kat (can't find a deb for kubuntu) but it requires unsermake, what package is that in?02:58
reagleBRKLNah, i see it03:00
reagleBRKLNdidn't help though, oh well. will keep looking for deb03:03
djibhello03:13
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djibI'm looking for Backports for Kubuntu03:14
apokryphosdjib: to get what version exactly?03:15
apokryphos(of kde, that is)03:15
djibI don't know03:16
djibI'm on ubuntuguide.org03:16
djiband the blackport mirror doesn't work03:16
aftertafbackport mirror, not blackport03:17
apokryphos!backports03:17
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:17
aftertafdjib:  it should work...if its down temporarily, wait n see, otherwise system cold take a slapping...03:18
djibwell it was down yesterday also...03:18
apokryphosUbuntuguide is pretty crappy; I'm not sure what they recommend for backports there.03:18
aftertafsilly qu.03:19
apokryphosif you want to use the ubuntuforum hoary-backports, though, use the mirrormax mirror -- it seems ot be up the most.03:19
aftertafdo you need the deb-src lines too?03:19
aftertafi use bin, not sourcecode03:19
apokryphosaftertaf: only if you plan on building the dpkg source03:19
aftertafi dont03:19
aftertaf:)03:19
apokryphosthen you don't need it, sure.03:20
aftertafcool... economise bandwidth03:20
apokryphosyou're economising a few kb.. only the details from apt-get update, but sure. :P03:21
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djibaftertaf: you can use apt-build to use your kubuntu as a gentoo03:28
aftertafdjib:  would be fun... if i *knew* what i was doing03:31
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Carpe_Libertatemuse your kubuntu as a gentoo?03:32
djibaftertaf: what don't you understand ?03:35
djibI can try and explain03:35
aftertafi am far toooo worn out to figure anything out right now....03:36
aftertafbut i appreciate your willingness03:36
aftertafsee, i cant even talk straight! ;)03:36
djib^^03:39
djibare you new with linux aftertaf ?03:39
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aftertafsort of.03:41
aftertaf3 years of understanding and breaking debian, with a lot of months in between doing not much.03:41
aftertafi helped a guy in australia install his adsl modem though :)03:42
aftertafso not a TOTAL n00b03:42
djibyeah03:42
aftertafbut a n00bish type of user al the same...03:42
aftertafi got the basics of the shell, just about, though i don't grep :D03:43
aftertafhoping to learn a lot more as and when the chance arises.03:43
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djibI'm sure you will !03:49
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aftertafhehe03:50
aftertafhope so03:50
djibhow do I add a user with minimum rights on my kubuntu ?03:50
djibadduser creates a simple user, or an admin-like ?03:50
Kamping_Kaiserdjib: a basic user03:53
Kamping_Kaiser*very* basic03:53
christofferI have some problems after installing kubuntu on the same machine as fedora4, I installed kubunto on another partitition. Now i can only boot kubuntu, kubunto can not read the other partition, and I can't figure out how to get higher than 60 hz on monitor.03:53
Blissexchristoffer: thanks for letting us know :-). You are allowed to ask specific, detailed questions too BTW.03:54
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christofferHow can I make it, make a choich which distro I want to boot?03:55
Carpe_Libertatemhmm03:57
Blissexchristoffer: thats still a bit vague, but better,03:57
Blissexchristoffer: whatever boot managed you use can be configured to boot any kernel from any partition.03:57
Blissexchristoffer: so what you need is to configure the other partition as one of the meny choices in KUbuntu.03:58
Blissexchristoffer: to do so, there are a couple of ways.03:58
christoffercan i do that from kubuntu?03:58
Blissexchristoffer: yes sure.03:58
Blissexchristoffer: there are two ways to set up booting with GNU/Linux.03:59
christofferBlissex nice where from?03:59
djibthanks Kamping_Kaiser 03:59
djibI discovered Kuser03:59
djibit's pretty good !03:59
aftertaf_homekde pwns :)03:59
djibyeah !!!!!!03:59
Blissexchristoffer: getting you a link...04:00
Carpe_LibertatemKuser?04:00
Kamping_Kaiserdjib: that's ok ;) i only use cli04:00
djibcli ?04:00
djibCarpe_Libertatem: kuser is a program to manage users04:01
djibKamping_Kaiser: what is cli ?04:01
Blissexchristoffer: basically you edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' but there are some more user friendly frontends04:01
DaSkreechHow good is KPDF?04:01
BlissexDaSkreech: currently it is very good.04:01
Kamping_Kaiserdjib: Command Line Interface04:01
Kamping_Kaisera terminal :D04:01
djibKamping_Kaiser: ok04:01
DaSkreechBlissex: What are it's advantages?04:01
DaSkreechI'm hearing it's the best PDF solution in Linux04:02
christofferBlissex I am little affraid of editing raw txt...04:02
BlissexDaSkreech: meaningless question...04:02
Blissexchristoffer: OK, I supposed that.04:02
djibchristoffer, can you access your old ubuntu partition ?04:02
Blissexchristoffer: wait for a link...04:02
Kamping_Kaiserdjib: be care full about using vim04:02
DaSkreechBlissex: :-) What would be a meaningful question?04:02
Kamping_Kaiserroot@ROMMEL:~ # :q04:03
Kamping_Kaiserbash: :q: command not found04:03
Kamping_Kaiserroot@ROMMEL:~ #04:03
Kamping_Kaiseror that happens04:03
djibchristoffer: because there should be all you need in the /boot/grub on the ubuntu partition christoffer 04:03
BlissexDaSkreech: hard to say -- basically KPDF displays PDFs well and conveniently.04:03
djibKamping_Kaiser: I love vim04:03
DaSkreechBlissex: Thanks04:03
djibI use it a lot04:03
Kamping_Kaiserdjib: same, you umight have noticed ;D04:04
djibI've been using gentoo for 6 monts04:04
djibyeah !04:04
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christofferBlissex I can see partitition but not mount. Ok tnx I will look at /boot/grub04:04
DaSkreechSomeone should make a kentoo04:04
DaSkreechJust to annoy them :)04:04
Kamping_Kaiserew04:04
Kamping_KaiserDaSkreech: :P not cool04:04
djibchristoffer: can you access you old partition ?04:04
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Blissexchristoffer: as djib was hinting at, basically you should be merging the GRUB configuration for Fedora into the KUbuntu one.04:05
djibwhat does it say when you mount it ?04:05
christofferdjib no only them kubuntu use04:05
Blissexchristoffer: problem is, this is very easy to do if you kinow how to do it, and not otherwise.04:05
djibchristoffer: do you know the name of your fedora partition ?04:05
djiblike hdax04:05
djibwhere x is a number04:05
christofferex304:05
christofferall in hda104:06
djibok04:07
djibopen a konsole04:07
djibtype in04:07
djibcd /mnt04:07
djibmkdir test04:07
djibmount /dev/hda1 /mnt/test04:07
djibthen cd /mnt/test/boot/grub04:07
djibls04:07
djibtell me what you see04:08
christofferok 2 sec04:08
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djibchristoffer: take your time04:09
christofferuh no.. I did not make root acc on install.. I will look in kuser04:10
djibyou'll have to do 'sudo mount' instead of mount i think04:10
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djibchristoffer: there is no root in kubuntu04:10
djibchristoffer: you can activate it04:10
djibbut no need to04:10
christofferuh.. thats strange :)04:10
djibyou do everything with sudo04:11
djibif you want to log in root, just do a su -s -H04:11
DaSkreechDo do a sudo04:11
djibyeah, sudo is good04:12
djibyou'll get used to it04:12
christofferyeah04:12
djibchristoffer: just add sudo before mount04:12
Carpe_Libertatemor get lazy like me and use su04:12
Carpe_Libertatem=P04:12
christofferuh cant find hda104:13
christofferI just look what part is called04:13
christofferit cant find the two hdx with fedora..04:15
djiboh oh04:15
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djibdo you have qtparted installed ?04:16
christofferyes i think so04:16
djiblook at your partitions then04:16
christofferno i dont, I can install it04:16
djibhang on04:17
Kamping_Kaisercat /proc/partitions04:17
ounaslooking for kde mobiletools, does sms and other things, any ideas?04:17
christofferok04:17
djibtype in sudo fdisk -l04:18
djibit will display your patitions04:18
christofferfrom hda1 to hda504:18
christoffer2 fedora 3 is ubuntu04:19
djib?04:19
christofferfedora is Linux LVM ubuntu os Linux04:19
djibhow many partitions are there ?04:19
christoffer504:20
djibwhat are they ?04:20
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christofferhda1 very small hda2 is fedora hda3 is ubuntu hda4 is swap for fedora hda5 is swap for ubuntu04:21
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djibok...04:23
djibyou could have done just one swap, but who cares04:23
djibnow try sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/test04:23
djib(providing you created /mnt/test)04:23
christofferhas it something to do that hda2 is Linux LVM and hda3 is Linux04:23
christoffer"dev/hda2 do not exist"04:25
djibdamned !04:25
djibI don't know what linux LVM is04:25
christofferits crazy lol04:25
christofferok04:25
Carpe_LibertatemMe neither.04:25
djibmaybe it's another type of file type04:25
djibdo you have a knoppix ?04:25
christofferyes04:25
djibok, try and boot with knoppix04:25
djibopen your partition hda204:26
christofferok cu04:26
djiband save your /boot/grub/menu.lst file somewhere on hda304:26
christofferyeah :)04:26
djibI stay on this chan and wait for you04:26
christofferand copy04:26
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christofferthanks04:27
djibno worries04:27
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Buddais it possible to get my boot up console colored?without a bootsplashscreen?04:36
nikkiadjib, Carpe_Libertatem, LVM = Logical Volume Manager, one of the two soft-RAID systems for linux04:37
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Carpe_LibertatemAhh.04:37
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jimmy_neutronhi :D04:37
christofferI think the partition is broken. knoppix can not read it, and qparted in knoppix report unknown.04:37
nikkia(the other being EVMS)04:37
apokryphosnikkia: good afternoon :)04:37
nikkiaafternoon apokryphos04:38
jimmy_neutronis there a way to run the kde-control-center as root?04:38
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: alt+f2 -> kdesu kcontrol04:39
jimmy_neutronkk, thx04:39
djibnikkia: how does it work ?04:41
djibchristoffer: you can try gpart04:42
djibit recovers partition tables04:42
christofferdjib ok tnx I will 04:42
djibor maybe some other recover tools04:43
christofferyeah04:43
djibI can't be on much more help sorry...04:43
christofferits ok u have been great 04:43
jimmy_neutronin the login screen where you type in your pass, is there a way to change the background? (tried control center but that changes only the screen after you type in your pass,...)04:52
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seaLnejimmy_neutron: yu want to change the settings for KDM (Login Manager)04:53
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Blissexjimmy_neutron: yes.05:10
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jimmy_neutronsry, was afk (lunch)05:16
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jimmy_neutronok, then where can i change the kdm settings?05:16
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apokryphosjimmy_neutron: you can get kdm themes from kdelook.org05:20
jimmy_neutronk, thx05:22
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jimmy_neutroni can't connect to the site,...05:25
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ounassame here from the artic05:28
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jimmy_neutronsounds bad,...05:29
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apokryphosjimmy_neutron: server seems to be down; try again later, I'd say.05:31
jimmy_neutronkk, thx05:31
jimmy_neutronand about grub, can i change the style here too?05:31
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Phantom^^hey guys i'm having some trouble installing this new printer i just bought05:51
nikkiaPhantom, which printer?05:52
Phantom^^uhh its a epson AcuLaser c110005:52
Phantom^^in teh kde setup thingy the aculasers start at c190005:53
Phantom^^and the epson website does not have a linux driver for it available, they say it is usually shipped with the operating system or something 05:54
nikkiaPhantom^^: tell it its a laserjet 305:55
Phantom^^ok 05:55
nikkiai hope it has 5MB of ram tho05:55
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nikkiaapparently, that printer downconverts everything to 75dpi internally if it only has 1MB05:55
Phantom^^yeah i think it has 3205:56
Phantom^^is that bad ?05:56
Phantom^^in the sence of compatibility05:56
nikkiait should be alright05:56
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nikkiathe 1Mb thing is just something the printer does automatically, it would still 'work' with linux, just your printouts would look like crud05:57
Phantom^^hmm how do i tell its its a laserjet 305:57
Phantom^^is taht under hp ?05:57
nikkiai imagine so05:58
nikkiayou probably need gimp-print installed, if you don't have it06:00
nikkiaCUPS itself only supports about 5 drivers, most of which are dot-matrix printers, it relies on a back-end driver (usually gimp-print, altho TurboPrint integrates with CUPS too)06:01
Phantom^^how do i install gimp print06:02
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nikkiaPhantom^^: apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, whatever you want06:03
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Phantom^^nikkia: i jsut tried a test print seems the printer recieved the data but did nothing with it06:04
Phantom^^opps06:05
Phantom^^yeah gimp print i guess06:05
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's GIMP print?06:05
nikkiaCarpe_Libertatem: a printer driver06:07
nikkiait was originally part of gimp, hence the name, but it has been a standalone set of printer drivers for a long time now06:07
nikkiaits also not called gimp-print anymore, its 'gutenprint' now, but ubuntu hasn't switched to gutenprint (shame, as it has a lot of new features that are really worthwhile, including a lot more drivers)06:08
Phantom^^nikkia can i install gutenprint anyway06:09
Phantom^^it may have my printer ?06:09
nikkiano06:10
nikkiagimp-print *should* already be installed, its a dependancy of [k] ubuntu-desktop, and therein lies the problem....06:11
Phantom^^seems gimp print is already installed but when i go to the settings it says im using cups06:11
nikkiato just build gutenprint, you need to remove gimp-print out of the way, or build gutenprint in such a way that it tells dpkg that it is a pure upgrade of gimp-print06:12
Phantom^^the drop down does not have gimp print listed at least under the name of gimp print06:12
nikkiaand since gimp-print is split over several packages, its not an easy task06:12
nikkiano, you misunderstand06:12
nikkiawithout gimp-print, your choice of printers is about '5'06:12
nikkiaone of which  is a 9pin, and 2 24-pin dot matrix printers, i think one is a postscript, and i forget the other 1 :)06:13
Phantom^^ok well i dont know how this works but in the printer config gui06:13
Phantom^^print system currently used is set to cups06:13
nikkiawith gimp-print, you get a long list of printers, but you don't see anything that says 'gimp-print' per se06:13
nikkiayou're in the wrong GUI :P06:13
Phantom^^and in the drop down there are a few other systems listed but none of them are gimp06:13
nikkiayou should be at the CUPS setup, which is via  a web browser06:13
nikkiatry opening the url:   http://localhost:63106:15
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Phantom^^ok nikkia let just pretend i have jsut hooked the new printer up to this machine06:18
Phantom^^what do i have to do with a kubuntu setup to install it06:18
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Phantom^^hmmm nikkia i think i have found a driver for this printer but the website does not list kubuntu directly they have debian though if im downloading the file should i pick the debian distriution06:23
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Phantom^^nikkia:  can you look at this url and tell me which one you think i should try06:25
Phantom^^http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin/dl2/ls_e06:25
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nikkianope, i can't06:25
nikkiabecause its a session based page :P06:26
nikkiaPhantom^^: as i said, the driver to use is the laserjet 3 driver, that is from linuxprinting.org, which is about the best, and most reliable, resource for printing stuff on linux06:26
Phantom^^ok06:27
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Phantom^^ok06:30
Phantom^^when i select laserjet 3 it gives me a kinda list of sub drivers06:31
Phantom^^laserjet 3 (foomatic + gimp-print)06:31
Phantom^^laserjet 3 (foomatic + ljet3)06:32
Phantom^^laserjet 3 (foomatic + stp)06:32
Phantom^^laserjet 3 (foomatic + gimp-print-ijs)06:32
Phantom^^which one should i pick /06:32
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_davidsholas06:36
nikkiaPhantom^^: the second one, ljet306:37
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Phantom^^ok06:38
Phantom^^thanks i hope this works06:38
Phantom^^nikkia it asks me to select a port for the printer06:39
Phantom^^atm its connected via usb but it gives me like 15 possible usb ports06:39
nikkiahow's it connected to the PC? printer port?06:39
nikkiaoh06:39
Phantom^^i can use parrallel06:39
Phantom^^if need be ?06:40
nikkiaPhantom^^: at a console do:   ls -l /dev/usb/lp006:40
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Phantom^^crw-rw----  1 root lp 180, 0 2005-09-05 16:42 /dev/usb/lp006:40
nikkiaok, then thats the port you want to give it :)06:40
Phantom^^lol what port is that ?06:40
Phantom^^you mean06:41
Phantom^^that is the uri ?06:41
Phantom^^this   dev/usb/lp0 ?06:41
nikkiawith the / at the start06:42
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Phantom^^ok06:42
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Phantom^^ok so i selcted that port and then the hp ljet3 and i tried to test but it did not print the test page :(06:45
jimmy_neutronhow can i mount usb-sticks in Kubuntu 5.04?06:46
OculusAquilaejimmy_neutron: this should be simple, after connecting it to the pc you should find an icon in media:/ in konqueror06:48
jimmy_neutronk06:48
jimmy_neutronindeed thx06:48
jimmy_neutronhow do I unount it now? ("remove safely")?06:49
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OculusAquilaejimmy_neutron: rightclick and something like unmount device06:49
jimmy_neutronhmm... yeah, cool big thx06:50
OculusAquilaejimmy_neutron: np06:50
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jimmy_neutronis there a way to add devices in /etc/fstab so that non-root users can boot them too?06:59
solistelike this maybe:07:01
soliste- /dev/hdc2       /media/data     vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,rw,user,auto 0 007:02
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jimmy_neutronk, mom07:02
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: you have ot set the appropriate mask for it07:02
apokryphos(permissions to access). 0222 is read-only for all users -- you'll want to use that if you're mounting an NTFS partition.07:03
jimmy_neutronok07:03
jimmy_neutronthere is still no way to write on ntfs safely?07:04
apokryphoscorrect07:04
jimmy_neutronis there anybody working on that, or did they give up already?07:06
solistebreezy-live-i386.iso (colony-4) doesn't work for me, error with locales, is this reported?07:08
jimmy_neutron./dev/hdc2       /media/data     vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,rwuser,auto 0 0 <-- should i change that rw to r when mount ntfs?07:09
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: you should mount your ntfs like this:   /dev/hdbX       /media/windoze  ntfs    umask=0222      0       007:10
jimmy_neutronok07:10
apokryphosmind you, all you really need for your vfat partitions is  /dev/hdbX /mnt/somefolder vfat umask=000 0 007:12
jimmy_neutronok07:12
jimmy_neutronthat ntfs works only for root,...07:13
jpatrickso put sudo in front of the comman07:13
jpatrickcommand*07:13
jimmy_neutroncan't i just set it up to get mounted at every system startup?07:13
jpatrickhey anyone know where I can get Qt header files?07:13
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: putting it in fstab *will* make it mount on startup07:14
apokryphos!qt07:14
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:14
jpatrickthank you07:14
jimmy_neutronohh, well then thx07:15
jpatrickjimmy_neutron: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs07:15
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: of course, you should only really edit that as root if you want to alter it07:15
apokryphosjpatrick: you know not to recommend that :P. But, for automounting...07:15
apokryphos!windowsdrives07:15
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically07:15
jpatrickapokryphos: sorry :)07:17
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jpatrickhmm.. even after installing libqt3-mt-dev I still don't have the header files07:19
fakedsb using amarok? if yes, was it possible for you to build a collection? It doesn't work to me, need help07:19
apokryphosjpatrick: what is it you're trying to compile?07:19
jpatrickfaked: I have a collection07:19
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apokryphosfaked: settings -> configure amarok -> collection07:20
jpatrickapokryphos: http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p1.html07:20
jpatrickthe #include files don't exist on my system07:20
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nico8481hi07:20
jpatricklo07:20
fakedapokryphos: yes I did it so far, but when scanning has been finished there is no collection created07:20
apokryphosjpatrick: hm, ok -- one sec.07:21
apokryphosfaked: are you *sure* there are appropriate music files in that directory.07:21
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fakedapokryphos: yes, I have an external harddisc with mp3's on it, some month ago it worked perfect with amarok, but since I think 1.2.4 I can't create a collection, the collection is always empty07:22
jpatrickfaked: It took me a few times to build my collection07:22
fakedapokryphos: I also tried to copy songs into my $home and started create collection - same thing07:22
fakedjpatrick: amarok scans all folders, it needs a few minutes, but it is always empty07:23
fakedjpatrick, apokryphos: which version of amarok do you use?07:24
jpatrick1.307:24
nico8481i'm trying to use unicode with latex but it doesn't seem to work (using \usepackage[utf8] {inputenc} but after texi2pdf we see only the latin caracters in the resulting pdf...) does anyone know how to do it right?07:24
jpatrickit worked with later verisons tho07:24
apokryphosjpatrick: not entirely sure for now, but if you want... just do an apt-get build-dep {kdepackage} and that'll pull it in07:24
fakedjpatrick: where did you get 1.3 with apt-get?07:25
apokryphosfaked: I can't help but think that you're certainly doing something wrong in the process...07:25
jpatrickI downloaded it07:25
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jpatrickfaked:  http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/hoary-i386/07:25
jpatrickapokryphos: what should I put for {kdepackage}?07:26
fakedjpatrick: uihh, I use breezy for i386, so ther is no package :)07:26
apokryphosjpatrick: any kde package... go for amarok ;-)07:26
apokryphosfaked: not in apt, yet, no.07:26
jpatrickE: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.07:27
OculusAquilaefaked: I'll build amarok on i386 soon :-)07:27
fakedapokryphos: I understand, I have this problem with amarok 1.2.4 on breezy and amarok 1.3 on debian unstable, so I thought maybe it is a but, but If two peoplo say it is working correctly, I think the problem is on me07:28
fakedOculusAquilae: cool07:28
apokryphosjpatrick: try any others... i.e. ktts07:28
OculusAquilaebut at the moment I compile it for breezy-amd6407:28
jimmy_neutronis there a tool to partition the hdd?07:28
apokryphosfaked: many more than two :). Though, if you're having this area on multiple OSs, then try #amarok07:28
apokryphosjimmy_neutron: qtparted07:29
jpatrickapokryphos: maybe I need libqt3-dev?07:29
apokryphosI was under the impression that the -mt pack brought that in... if not, install it, sure.07:29
jimmy_neutronk, thx07:30
jpatrickbut it removes kde-devel kde-devel-extras kdebase-dev kdelibs4-dev kdesdk koffice-dev...07:30
apokryphos:-O07:30
apokryphosthat's not right07:30
fakedapokryphos: I did it yesterday, I checked it with one developer of amarok, we tried different things, but it didn't work, so I thougt the package is bad, but as I said the same problem on debian and breezy07:30
jpatrickThat's what I thought07:30
fakedapokryphos: I tried to build it from svn, but the taglib in debian unstable and in breezy is too old...07:31
apokryphosfaked: you could try compiling, see if the problem persists.07:31
apokryphosfaked: get the taglib package -- go to the link above07:31
jimmy_neutronit says there that qtparted ist a partition magic clone - is it as messy as partition magic too?07:31
fakedapokryphos: but this package is for hoary not for breezy07:32
apokryphosoh, you're on breezy?07:32
fakedapokryphos: yes on breezy07:32
apokryphosCompile taglib too, then -- it's a minor-ish library07:32
jpatrickapokryphos: see apt-cache show libqt3-dev07:33
fakedapokryphos: yes, I think would be the best way07:33
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jpatrickIt has 2 warnings07:33
apokryphosit's not on breezy07:34
apokryphosjpatrick: the build-dep gave no success?07:34
jpatrickFailed to satisfy Build-Depends dependency for qt-x11-free07:35
usrxanyone know of any mirrors for kde-look.org?07:36
apokryphosjpatrick: are you sure that the -mt package installed correctly? I'm pretty convinced that's all you need07:37
apokryphosperhaps you have to export the QTDIR directory07:37
jpatrickhow?07:37
apokryphosexport QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 07:38
apokryphosor on the configure you can use --with-qt-dir07:38
apokryphosusrx: there aren't any07:38
jpatrickexport didn't work07:38
apokryphos:S07:39
usrxthanks07:39
jpatrickp1.cpp:1:26: qapplication.h: No such file or directory07:39
apokryphoseh?07:39
jpatrickthe header file is not there07:39
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apokryphoscan you clarify that other kde apps don't find it, on compile?07:40
jimmy_neutronhow much space should i reserve as swap on a amd athlon-xp-m 2400+ with 512 MB ram (with a 32 shared-memory grafics-card)07:41
jpatrickerr.. no07:41
jpatrickjimmy_neutron: 1 GB should07:41
jpatrickdo*07:41
jpatrickapokryphos: I'll take another example from the site07:42
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jpatrickapokryphos: didn't work07:45
jpatrick...agin07:45
apokryphosjpatrick: do you have libqt3c102-mt ?07:46
jimmy_neutronkk, thx07:46
jpatrickthere's nothing in /usr/lib/qt3 :S07:48
jpatrickjust one folder07:48
apokryphosthat's fine07:48
jpatricklibqt3c102-mt is already the newest version.07:48
apokryphosI'm stumped, sorry; from what I know you really should have them. :/07:49
jpatrick:/07:50
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jpatrick:\07:52
ManLord#amarok07:55
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djibamarok rulez07:57
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ManLordyes :)08:12
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seaLneis anyone using kbluetoothd?08:15
djibanyone has a wacom graphire ?08:20
ManLordseaLne: i use it08:22
seaLneManLord: its ok got it working now just i had to restart kde for some reason08:24
ManLordok08:24
seaLneit wouldn't do anything which was a bit annoying08:24
seaLneah cool now i can access my phone08:25
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fakedOculusAquilae: cool, amarok-deb for breezy i386, thx08:34
OculusAquilaenp08:35
fakedOculusAquilae: so lets see if building a collection will work no to me08:35
fakedOculusAquilae: you're from germany?08:37
OculusAquilaefaked: ye08:37
OculusAquilaes08:37
fakedOculusAquilae: I'm from Austria08:37
fakedOculusAquilae: is it a lot of work to build a deb-package?08:38
OculusAquilaefaked: ah, I like Austria08:38
OculusAquilaefaked: my simple packages are not very difficult to build, but if you have problems it is08:39
fakedOculusAquilae: hmm.. KLibLoader could not load the plugin: libamarok_artsengine_plugin08:39
OculusAquilaehm08:39
fakedOculusAquilae: but with your libtag-deb I can build it from svn08:40
OculusAquilaehm08:40
fakedOculusAquilae: ohh, amarok 1.3.1 released today08:41
OculusAquilaefaked: we have also a german kubuntu-irc-channel #kubuntu-de << advertising08:41
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OculusAquilaefaked: hm, not more work :-)08:42
faked:)08:42
OculusAquilaeI think I'll package amarok 1.3.1 tomorrow08:43
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rlaredhello all, i was wondering how to get my hands on gtkpod for kubuntu?08:45
apokryphos!info gtkpod08:47
ubotugtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.88-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 383 kB, Installed size: 1140 kB08:47
Tm_Tgtkpod? gtk? gnomish?08:47
apokryphosrlared: enable the Universe repository and download it.08:47
Tm_T;)08:48
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rlaredapokryphos: thank you guys08:49
rlaredhaha Tm_T : is there a KDE equivalent? :)08:49
Tm_Tdon't ask from me, I don't have ipod =)08:50
apokryphosyou can use amaroK if you have 1.3 08:50
Tm_Tyeah, I was suggwsting that =)08:50
rlareddoes amarok do everything?08:51
apokryphosrlared: it makes coffee, yes.08:51
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rlaredapokryphos: hazelnut or regular?08:52
Tm_Tboth08:53
Tm_Tand espresso08:53
apokryphosrlared: latest version does both, in fact.08:54
rlareddamn08:54
rlaredhighly impressive my friends08:55
jimmy_neutronhow does the fstab entry for swap-partitions look like?08:55
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apokryphos /dev/hdbX       none            swap    sw              0       008:57
jimmy_neutronk, thx08:57
rlaredkubuntu is pretty sweet08:59
rlaredtrying it for the first time08:59
apokryphos=)08:59
rlaredso far it's exactly what i'm looking for, except I don't know if i quite agree with no root login by default : D09:00
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bobbydcan anyone help me repair my MBR?09:11
Xorlevbobbyd: What damaged it? Windows?09:12
bobbydI nuked it by accident, I have the kubuntu install CD booted but I'm not sure how to reinstall grub09:12
bobbydXorlev, yes09:12
Xorlev!grub09:12
ubotuI heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:12
XorlevAck wrong channel09:12
bobbydXorlev, windows vista to be precise09:12
XorlevVista! *hiss*09:12
bobbydindeed09:12
bobbydany ideas09:12
bobbydI can run grub-install09:13
XorlevCheck out the links ubotu put out.09:13
bobbydbut I've only used lilo on the past and kubuntu auto-configures grub so I'm not sure how to fix it09:13
Xorlevhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <-- this one in particular09:13
bobbydok thanks09:13
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bobbydI thought you said wrong channel09:13
bobbydsorry :)09:13
XorlevI forgot ubotu was here too =)09:14
jimmy_neutronis there any other file that describes the hdd partiotions except fstab09:14
Xorlev/etc/mtab, /etc/lvmtab09:15
jimmy_neutronk, thx09:15
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jimmy_neutronok do have have to put something into these files to set up a swap partition for kubuntu?09:18
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XorlevYour swap partition should have been made at install.09:23
jimmy_neutronis there no way i can fix this now?09:25
seaLnefix what?09:25
jimmy_neutronwell the system has no swap partition09:26
seaLnein /etc/fstab you should have a line like:09:26
seaLne/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       009:26
jimmy_neutronwell there is a swap partition, but the system isn't using it09:26
XorlevThats fine, it isn't always used.09:27
XorlevOnly when pages from the virtual memory are aged and no longer need physical memory.09:27
jimmy_neutronhmmm i got that line except that "sw" part09:27
seaLnecat /proc/meminfo should tell you how much swap you have09:28
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seaLnesomething like:09:28
seaLneSwapTotal:     1959888 kB09:28
seaLneSwapFree:      1923220 kB09:28
XorlevRight now my system is only using 4.11mb of my swap09:28
XorlevOut of ~2gb.09:28
jimmy_neutronk, thx09:28
XorlevRunning top can also give you a realtime status of your swap and the like.09:30
jimmy_neutroni get permission denied09:31
Xorlevsudo cat /proc/meminfo09:32
jimmy_neutronohh :>09:32
jimmy_neutronSwapTotal: 0kB09:33
jimmy_neutronSwapFree: 0kB09:33
seaLnesudo fdisk -l |grep swap09:34
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seaLneand see if it says anything09:34
seaLneit looks like you might actually not have any swap09:34
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jimmy_neutronit sais /dev/hda7 3425 3558 1076323+ 82 Linux Swap / Solaris09:36
jimmy_neutronbut hda7 should be /09:37
jimmy_neutronand hda6 should be swap09:37
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lascaranyone know of a good anti-virus app for kubuntu?09:37
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XorlevClamAV.09:39
XorlevRuns by command line though.09:39
seaLneworks well with mailscanner09:41
lascarheard of it09:41
lascarbut i'm looking for a GUI one, if possible09:41
apokryphoswhat exactly do you need an anti-virus app for?09:42
seaLneklamav09:42
apokryphosin a world without fences who needs gates :D09:42
apokryphossomewhat unrelated ;-)09:42
lascarlook, i know linux isn't nearly as popular a target as windows for virus writers09:43
lascarbut they do exist09:43
apokryphosnot really09:44
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apokryphosnot really09:45
seaLnenot in the same way as in windows, unless ofcourse you get emails with a program in them from someone you don't know and run it as root09:45
apokryphosand a few of "famous" ones made contained full documentation and options to undo all they did :D09:45
apokryphoss/of/of the09:45
apokryphoshttp://librenix.com/?inode=2109:46
lascarwhat should the database directory be?09:46
XorlevMost virus programmers stick to Windows...much easier to infect.09:46
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lascarnice article09:48
koalah_dumb question, but why is windows easier?09:49
apokryphoskoalah_: check that link for some reasons09:50
seaLneit runs lots of services by default09:50
seaLnestupid mail clients like outlook don't handel attatchments properly etc09:51
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apokryphosthoreauputic: hola!09:52
seaLnenico8481: they don't have enough mouse buttons :)09:52
thoreauputicapokryphos: hi!09:52
apokryphosthoreauputic: how you doin'?09:53
nico8481seaLne, real men don't use mice ;-)09:53
XorlevWindows is based on a Point-and-Click way of doing things09:53
thoreauputicMy phone company had problems - off line for 4 days!!09:53
seaLnewhat about copy+paste?09:53
apokryphosthoreauputic: ouch09:53
apokryphosthoreauputic: another case for broadband? ;)09:53
nico8481seaLne, what about "yy" in vi ? ;)09:53
seaLne:)09:54
thoreauputicapokryphos: actually I would have dsl so it would have been the same09:54
apokryphosthoreauputic: but with another phone company :P09:54
bobbydseaLne, do now: http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/09:54
thoreauputicapokryphos: cabling problem : all th ecopper is owned by telstra here09:54
seaLnenot on the laptop tho09:54
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bobbydseaLne, plug it in!09:55
apokryphosthoreauputic: nevermind, at least we have you now ;-)09:55
nico8481i guess you can plug it to the laptop :p09:55
XorlevWindows...you open a wizard and whala. Binary installed. With linux its sometimes more difficult requiring alot of times dependencys, but in my opinion, the Linux method is far better.09:55
thoreauputicapokryphos: in the meantime I thought I would be clever and reconfigure irssi: so I managed to stuff that up royally and now it won't connect ;-)09:55
apokryphosheh09:56
nico8481anyone actually knows MacOSX?09:56
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XorlevMacOSX is beautiful...no doubt there, and its based off Unix, but I much prefer Linux =)09:57
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koalah_only 51 mb left :)10:16
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typoall my Qt apps seam to display accented characters badly. Like they're showing UTF-8 content as latin1 or something10:24
typoanyone know what this is?10:24
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libbenwhen i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now im at the part regarding glcore and all that10:49
libbenshould i check glcore?10:50
libbenits unchecked10:50
crimsunonly if you're not using nvidia or ati drivers10:50
libbenim using nvidia10:50
typoI don't have the keyboard layout options in the kde control center. Anyone know if I need some other package for this?10:50
typoI instaleed "kcontrol"10:50
crimsunlibben: the binary-only drivers?10:50
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libbencrimsun its fresh install and i just did the dpkg-reconfigure thingy10:51
crimsunlibben: if so, do not check GLcore10:51
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libbendri?10:52
nikkiaoooo10:53
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nikkiamy web provider just upgraded their customers from 1GB of storage to 2GB for free10:53
libbenyeah, we all have it. called gmail and gmail storage =)10:54
nikkialibben: that is NOT the same thing10:54
nikkiatry running a php script on gmail some time10:54
amugmail is evil spyware :D10:55
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libbenpff =)10:55
amuyou allow then, they can scan your private mail     10:56
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libbencan i totally remove konqueror?11:05
libbencause i see its implemented with alot of nice things.11:05
XorlevI wouldn't recommend it11:05
libbenlike its many things in one, web browser, file manager and so on..11:05
libbenk11:05
XorlevYou probably can, but that'd kill alot of things.11:06
libbenso i keep it? and just install firefox and choose in a menu somewhere that firefox is my krewl broweser11:06
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lascarapokryphos: any idea how to maximize wireless ethernet throughput?11:09
lascari'm maxed at 1mbps11:09
lascarbrb11:09
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libbenwhats the diffrence between konq and firefox? 11:12
amulascar: maybe with network bounding & QoS 11:12
libbenanyone?11:17
crimsunlibben: they're fundamentally different. Konqueror is not _just_ a Web browser.11:18
crimsun(not to mention they use different widget sets)11:18
nikkialascar: have you tried setting the bitrate via iwconfig? some of the drivers seem to have a bug where they default to 802.11 mode but still report 802.11b/g mode11:20
nikkia(i used to have a 3com ethernet card that did the same under linux, said it was in 100baseT mode, but was actually in 10baseT mode, that one was very annoying tho, i had to tell it to use 10baseT mode to get 100baseT)11:21
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jimmy_neutronn8 everybody11:21
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rlaredhey does anyone know if there is a command line flag for kmix to get it to raise/lower/mute the volume?11:27
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sedekiDoesn't kubuntu have dpkg command?11:29
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apokryphossedeki: it's a debian-based system, of course it does.11:32
lascarok, back11:32
sedekimy friend claims he doesn't have dpkg.11:32
sedekiprobably no dpkg in $PATH.11:32
lascar!QoS11:32
ubotulascar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:32
lascarthat makes 2 of us11:32
apokryphoslibben: you can alter your default browser in kcontrol11:32
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apokryphoslibben: though not sure why you'd not like Konqueror.11:33
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apokryphossedeki: he's likely not running [k] ubuntu then11:33
sirukinheh11:33
sedekiwell, he does.11:33
PeakerI just hit a java applet in some web page, that managed to start allocating like crazy and thrashed everything out to swap, until task manager didnt work (took too much time to load), hell even console login took 3 minutes(!).  Is there any way to "lock in" the resources for critical processes (lock pages in memory, ensure scheduler slice, ensure I/O doesnt starve, etc)?11:34
Peakerit seems very very silly that programs that takes very minimal amounts of resources would ever be parted from their resources to increase some thrasher by 0.00001% efficiency11:34
apokryphossedeki: ls /usr/bin/ | grep dpkg  ... gives?11:35
PeakerIt seems that both Windows and Linux suffer from this silly fault even though they both have been multitasking for many years11:35
apokryphossedeki: if he mucked up his $PATH then he could be having problems too11:36
libbencause im a fanboy of firefox?11:36
sedekiapokryphos i misinterpreted my friend.11:36
libbenisnt that a good reason?11:36
libbenand firefox is soon comming with a new version11:36
apokryphoslibben: Konqueror sooner, probably.11:36
sedekiapokryphos he was looking for a program using dpkg --search, i thought he ment he didn't have dpkg installed.11:36
Peakerlibben: But firefox doesn't have the KIOSlave support and the KPart support, and the programmable shortcut support, etc, etc :)11:36
libbenbut wich browser is better and faster?11:37
apokryphossedeki: what does he want to search? Debs? Repositories?11:37
apokryphossedeki: he can use apt-cache search <package>11:37
sedekiinstalled debs using (as far as i'm concerned) dpkg --search11:38
lascarwhat's the proper syntax for changing wireless eth bitrates?11:38
apokryphossedeki: he should be using dpkg -l|grep <package>  ...then11:38
Peakersedeki: I don't notice any speed difference.. my connection is Israeli c-modem which is ok but still is the bottleneck in both browsers..11:39
Peakersedeki: I like Konqy better for pages both render properly.  Rare pages dont show right in konqy, rare part of them show right in firefox.  So I'd say as browsers they are roughly equal, ffox only very slightly better11:40
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libbenso FF is better then =)11:41
PeakerBut as general programs to use to browse-not-necessarily-the-web, konq is way better :)11:41
apokryphoslibben: better? It depends on your needs. Though, the advantages of Konqueror I see: fast for starting up, pretty darn fast rendering engine, integration with KDE.11:41
Peakerbut not enough to warrent the non-integrated look, the lack of "ggl:" shortcuts/etc and the inability to go to smb:/ all of a sudden ;)11:42
Peakerapokryphos: its likely that ff has faster rendering engine, but I think the rendering engine is only the bottle neck of very very few people11:42
libbenapokryphos, well. as i stated earlier, ff fanboy here. but konq seems to be just the same. except that it has some more nice features.... but im thinking of seperating the web part to ff and konq for the rest.11:43
lascarand you can hyperthread ff11:43
apokryphosI haven't seen any statistics on gecko/khtml comparison, so I'm leaving that11:43
apokryphosall I know is Konqueror loads pages easily faster than FF for me.11:43
apokryphoslibben: up to you, of course.11:43
libbeni read somewhere that konq can use the same extensions as ff11:43
apokryphoswork is being done to implement gecko engine into Konqeuror as an option, but that's far from ready still, I believe.11:44
Peakerlascar: Threading is for weak people ;-)11:44
lascarnikkia: what's the proper syntax for changing wireless eth bitrates?11:45
PeakerI would go as far as saying threading is the most ill-used feature by developers all over the world, over the years11:45
libbenwhat was the name of the file11:46
libbenthat holds the multi and so on11:46
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libbenhow do i update so i use the 686 instead of this 386?12:03

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