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| Madpilot | oook | 05:22 |
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| jsgotangco | hey guys | 05:39 |
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| Madpilot | hi | 05:42 |
| Madpilot | hey corey_ why the change of nick? | 05:42 |
| corey_ | flaky wireless here | 05:44 |
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| Burglaptop | so sometimes I get disconnected and then have to reconnect | 05:45 |
| Madpilot | ghost to the rescue, huh? | 05:45 |
| Madpilot | Burglaptop: Beeb article that I was going to email to you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/4208658.stm | 05:46 |
| Burglaptop | thanks | 05:46 |
| jsgotangco | brb lunch | 05:59 |
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| Burglaptop | jsg_lunch, you there? | 07:02 |
| Burglaptop | jsg_lunch, can you commit something for me? | 07:04 |
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| jsgotangco | Burglaptop, sure whats up | 07:28 |
| jsgotangco | i just bought some old cables at the nearby pc shop | 07:28 |
| jsgotangco | Burglaptop, did you see ShaunM's email requesting for contributors on the gnome user guide? | 07:28 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 07:29 |
| Burglaptop | I have a quick tour diff | 07:29 |
| Madpilot | that getting close to finished? | 07:29 |
| jsgotangco | what happened to your account | 07:29 |
| Burglaptop | not at my desktop machine | 07:29 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 07:30 |
| jsgotangco | fire away | 07:30 |
| Burglaptop | Madpilot, working on it | 07:30 |
| Madpilot | screenshots yet? | 07:30 |
| Burglaptop | no | 07:30 |
| Burglaptop | going to shot after the preview install | 07:30 |
| jsgotangco | jbailey said he might request mdz to drop the freeze but we're not too optimistic about it | 07:31 |
| Burglaptop | which freeze? | 07:31 |
| jsgotangco | doc | 07:31 |
| Burglaptop | the string one? | 07:31 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 07:32 |
| Burglaptop | jsgotangco, sent. Note that the diff is against just quicktour.html | 07:35 |
| jsgotangco | lemme check | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | done | 07:40 |
| Burglaptop | thanks | 07:41 |
| Burglaptop | oh, and check it out, I need some feedbackl | 07:41 |
| jsgotangco | looking at it now | 07:41 |
| Madpilot | "is released", not "is releases" - 3rd bullet point! | 07:43 |
| Madpilot | why no link to gnome-look.org? it's much better organized that art.gnome... | 07:43 |
| Burglaptop | ummm | 07:44 |
| Burglaptop | art.gnome is a much nicer site and ties in with gnome-art | 07:44 |
| Madpilot | heh... and gnome-look seems to be down again anyway... I still think it's got the better interface of the two | 07:47 |
| mpt | Anyone here on Hoary? | 07:47 |
| Madpilot | me | 07:47 |
| mpt | Madpilot: What does "cat /etc/issue" return for you? | 07:48 |
| jsgotangco | gnome-look is a complete ripoff of kde-look | 07:48 |
| Madpilot | "Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l" | 07:48 |
| mpt | thanks Madpilot | 07:48 |
| Madpilot | complete with those \n \l bits that look like errors - what are they? | 07:49 |
| mpt | \n is a new line for some reason | 07:49 |
| mpt | I don't know what \l is | 07:49 |
| mpt | (linefeed?) | 07:49 |
| Madpilot | there is a blank line below that text, before I get my prompt back... | 07:49 |
| mpt | yeah, I think that's accidental | 07:50 |
| Madpilot | what is /etc/issue supposed to be, anyway? | 07:50 |
| Burglaptop | your current distro version | 07:50 |
| Madpilot | obvously... :) | 07:51 |
| Madpilot | jsgotangco: gnome-look.org & kde-look are run by the same folks - ping gnome-look.org and the results come back from kde-look.org... | 07:52 |
| Burglaptop | art.gnome.org runs rubyonrails | 07:52 |
| Burglaptop | if you run breezy, there is an app called gnome-art that pulls out of the art.gnome.org | 07:52 |
| Madpilot | ah, that's cool | 07:53 |
| Burglaptop | it is built on ruby, which we don't ship by default, otherwise we would probably ship it by defau't | 07:53 |
| mpt | ok, next job is to get the total amount of physical memory | 07:54 |
| Madpilot | mpt: "free"? | 07:55 |
| mpt | thanks Madpilot, that's a good start | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | brian@warbard:~/ubuntu-doc$ free | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | total used free shared buffers cached | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | Mem: 1036488 771928 264560 0 51112 437804 | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | -/+ buffers/cache: 283012 753476 | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | Swap: 0 0 0 | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | pardon the dump, but... | 07:57 |
| mpt | so I'm only interested in the second word of the second line... | 07:58 |
| Burglaptop | mpt, why do you want aboutubuntu to have this info | 07:58 |
| Burglaptop | ? | 07:58 |
| Madpilot | not sure what you mean? | 07:58 |
| mpt | Burglaptop: Because it's basic information about the computer | 07:59 |
| mpt | Amount of memory, processor speed, and a button taking you to the Device Manager | 08:00 |
| Burglaptop | mpt, is this for reporting> | 08:00 |
| Burglaptop | ah | 08:00 |
| mpt | fwiw, Windows and OS X both have this in their About boxes | 08:00 |
| Burglaptop | you mean the device database? | 08:00 |
| mpt | no, System > Administration > Device Manager | 08:01 |
| Burglaptop | ok | 08:01 |
| Madpilot | Burglaptop: no, if you pull up the "About Windows" bumpf it includes some mem/CPU info | 08:01 |
| Burglaptop | ya | 08:01 |
| Burglaptop | and the device manager has a link to the device database, so all is not lost | 08:01 |
| jsgotangco | HAL device manager? | 08:02 |
| Burglaptop | jsgotangco, yes | 08:02 |
| Burglaptop | it drops the HAL part for Breezy | 08:02 |
| jsgotangco | i didnt notice | 08:03 |
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| jsgotangco | its prety spartan atm | 08:05 |
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| Madpilot | hi robitaille | 08:15 |
| robitaille | hi Madpilot | 08:16 |
| Burglaptop | anybody got any idea how I would search the entire archive for any 0ubuntu* packages? | 08:31 |
| Burglaptop | I want to figure out how much Ubuntu is ahead fo Debina | 08:31 |
| Burglaptop | and if it grew in the Breezy cycle | 08:31 |
| Madpilot | wow, your typing gets even worse than usual when you're on the laptop, doesn't it? ;) | 08:32 |
| Burglaptop | I am sitting on a couch, the greatest place to use a laptop in the world | 08:32 |
| Madpilot | so you can cook important parts of yourself at the same time? | 08:33 |
| Burglaptop | hey, unlike robitaille, I have no plans on having any kids | 08:34 |
| robitaille | Burglaptop, you're stilll young... just wait a few more years :) | 08:36 |
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| robitaille | download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz | 08:46 |
| robitaille | then run this command | 08:46 |
| robitaille | zgrep "Filename.*ubuntu.*" Packages.gz | 08:46 |
| robitaille | that should give you most ubuntu-modified packages | 08:46 |
| Burglaptop | hmm, ok | 08:48 |
| Burglaptop | only for main | 08:48 |
| Madpilot | run it without the trailing dot behind 'ubuntu' as well? | 08:49 |
| Burglaptop | http://kvota.net/sarma/ | 08:49 |
| Burglaptop | ya | 08:50 |
| robitaille | you will the dot after ubuntu as well for regex to work properly. universe, multiverse, restricted also have their own Packages.gz as well | 08:50 |
| robitaille | I'm sure there is a better way via apt-cache.... | 08:51 |
| Burglaptop | ya | 08:51 |
| jsgotangco | go blam | 08:53 |
| jsgotangco | it goes 100% when i try to close it just now | 08:53 |
| Burglaptop | hmm, half the packages in main are modified by us | 08:54 |
| Burglaptop | 698 in main are newer than those in debian | 08:54 |
| Madpilot | Burglaptop: what's at that URL you just posted, anyway? still not loading here... | 08:54 |
| Burglaptop | sarma, the live doc editor that was funded by Google for SoC | 08:55 |
| robitaille | Madpilot, works here... | 08:55 |
| Madpilot | live doc editor? online whiteboard stuff? | 08:56 |
| robitaille | the question is how many of these 698 are stuff that are also in sid at this point in time; thus will be in breezy+1 without patching. I have no idea... | 08:56 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 08:57 |
| Burglaptop | well, all of gnome 2.12 is not yet in sid | 08:58 |
| Burglaptop | and all the xorg stuff | 08:58 |
| Madpilot | gunning for bragging rights over Debian, are we? | 08:58 |
| Burglaptop | no, just interested where our delta is at | 08:58 |
| Burglaptop | Madpilot, sarma is a live doc editor | 08:58 |
| Madpilot | where our <what> is at? | 08:58 |
| Burglaptop | for whiteboarding, check out inkboard, which is also a SoC project | 08:59 |
| Burglaptop | and searchparty, another SoC project. This one allows you to share your searches with other people and what links they found useful | 09:00 |
| Burglaptop | http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode | 09:01 |
| robitaille | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ is the complete list of patches breezy vs sid | 09:01 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 09:01 |
| Burglaptop | Madpilot, our delta, the difference between us and Debian sid | 09:01 |
| Madpilot | Burglaptop: OK. where on earch does 'delta' come from? | 09:02 |
| robitaille | a talk from sabdfl | 09:02 |
| Madpilot | if it's from Mark, I'll guess it's a term used in the business/finance world - it sounds like an MBA-ish phrase! | 09:04 |
| Burglaptop | no it is not | 09:05 |
| Madpilot | no? | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | its a common term | 09:05 |
| robitaille | it's a scientific term.... think vectors, and differences between 2 of them going away from each other | 09:06 |
| Madpilot | delta v... right... just corrupted into jargon... ;) | 09:06 |
| robitaille | it's also a jargon-word for a spoon... | 09:07 |
| robitaille | at least this spoon | 09:07 |
| Madpilot | what? | 09:07 |
| Burglaptop | our spoon is not sharp and pointed | 09:07 |
| Burglaptop | Madpilot, you know what a fork is, right? | 09:07 |
| Burglaptop | it has evil connotations | 09:08 |
| Burglaptop | thus Ubuntu is a "spoon" of Debian | 09:08 |
| Madpilot | OK, I've heard the "ubuntu spoon" joke before, just didn't connect it with robitaille's comment | 09:08 |
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| Madpilot | I'm off to sleep. good night, all | 09:14 |
| jsgotangco | night | 09:15 |
| jsgotangco | wow jeffsch is ripping through the faqguide at the moment | 09:20 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 09:20 |
| Burglaptop | I like his edit summaries | 09:20 |
| Burglaptop | http://getstupid.biz/ignorance.html | 09:24 |
| jsgotangco | what does evolution-webcal do? | 09:33 |
| jsgotangco | oh ical | 09:33 |
| Burglaptop | night all | 09:35 |
| jsgotangco | night corey | 09:35 |
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| rob^2 | rob^, you smell! | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | beagle is nice | 10:50 |
| rob^2 | yes, it is | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | it ran smoothly in breezy | 10:50 |
| rob^2 | yep | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | i just got to try out some mono apps in breezy today | 10:51 |
| jsgotangco | never had the time to do so | 10:51 |
| rob^2 | yeah.. | 10:51 |
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| jsgotangco | gyah we seemed to have broken edubuntu | 11:53 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 11:58 |
| jsgotangco | we actually broke ubuntu-desktop | 11:58 |
| jsgotangco | jbailey, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14709 | 12:01 |
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| DWoodley | HI | 03:28 |
| mpt | hello | 03:31 |
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| rwabel | Burgundavia: did you add to the webcam howto, that spca is now in breezy? | 11:04 |
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| Burgundavia | rwabel, no idea and I didn't add it | 11:06 |
| rwabel | mhh I'm just curious, because I would love to know how he got the webcam working in breezy without installing spca | 11:07 |
| rwabel | I love it, when it only shows: adsl-213-190-44-43 instead of an author :-) | 11:09 |
| Burgundavia | adsl is the auto importer from the old wiki | 11:10 |
| rwabel | ah ok | 11:13 |
| Burgundavia | and the udu wiki as well | 11:14 |
| rwabel | udu? | 11:16 |
| Madpilot | Ubuntu Down Under | 11:16 |
| rwabel | thanks madpilot | 11:17 |
| Burgundavia | rob^, ping | 11:18 |
| rob^ | Burgundavia, ping | 11:55 |
| rob^ | err pong | 11:55 |
| Burgundavia | rob^, Installing Applications section in the faqguide | 11:55 |
| Burgundavia | it is way too wordy, can it be cut down | 11:55 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 11:56 |
| rob^ | maybe, I cut it down by half already | 11:56 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 11:56 |
| rob^ | yeah I know | 11:56 |
| Burgundavia | it looks like one giant block and my eyes glaze over about 25 words in | 11:57 |
| rob^ | I think the synaptic/kynaptic section says only what it needs to | 11:57 |
| rob^ | the first question was twice that size though | 11:57 |
| Burgundavia | can we just mention repos as part of the 2nd question? | 11:59 |
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| rob^ | yea, I suppose we could | 11:59 |
| rob^ | maybe take some key info from the first question and work it into the second? | 12:00 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 12:00 |
| Burgundavia | I don't want to step on too many toes | 12:00 |
| rob^ | heh | 12:00 |
| rob^ | no, both you and jeffsch are doing a good job | 12:00 |
| rob^ | I'll bbl gotta drop my son off at day care.. | 12:01 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:01 |
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