| marcin_ant | BenC, ping | 12:08 |
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| marcin_ant | desrt, ping | 12:08 |
| desrt | pong | 12:08 |
| marcin_ant | desrt, hi | 12:09 |
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| desrt | what's up? | 12:09 |
| marcin_ant | desrt, I got Asus M6703RB laptop and breezy | 12:09 |
| marcin_ant | with 2.6,12-8 kernel | 12:10 |
| desrt | k | 12:10 |
| marcin_ant | and my problem is that ACPI doesn't work | 12:10 |
| desrt | i probably can't help you too much there :/ | 12:11 |
| marcin_ant | theoretically asus M6R is supported but it cannot see battery | 12:11 |
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| desrt | does ACPI see the battery? | 12:11 |
| marcin_ant | no - it says that there is no battery at all | 12:11 |
| marcin_ant | there are bugs in dmes | 12:12 |
| desrt | eek :/ | 12:12 |
| marcin_ant | and I got a bug in dsdt | 12:12 |
| marcin_ant | but I don't know what to do with this bug | 12:12 |
| desrt | ya... that's definitely outside of my realm of understanding | 12:12 |
| desrt | BenC is your man :D | 12:12 |
| marcin_ant | ok, so I need to wait for him | 12:12 |
| desrt | fabbione is a fun guy to bug too :) | 12:12 |
| marcin_ant | I'll try to compile 2.6.13 kernel in the meantime but I don't think that it could solve these problems | 12:13 |
| marcin_ant | ok | 12:13 |
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| BenC | hey | 12:15 |
| desrt | w3rd. | 12:15 |
| marcin_ant | desrt, heh then stupid question - what is source package for linux-image? | 12:16 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, hi | 12:16 |
| desrt | linux-source | 12:16 |
| BenC | linux-source-2.6.12 | 12:16 |
| marcin_ant | apt-get source linux-source? | 12:16 |
| desrt | marcin_ant; and copy your config file from /boot/ to .config and run 'make oldconfig' | 12:16 |
| desrt | apt-get install | 12:16 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: are there any bios upgrades for your system? | 12:16 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, yes - already flashed bios | 12:17 |
| desrt | it will download a tar.bz2 to /usr/src... you can unpack it if you are a member of the 'src' group | 12:17 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: and there is still a bug with dsdt? | 12:17 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: got a dmesg output? | 12:17 |
| marcin_ant | desrt, yes I know but I thought about something that could allow me to build new kernel package | 12:18 |
| marcin_ant | desrt, anyway I'll try this | 12:18 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, just a moment | 12:18 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: if you unpack the kernel source, you can do build a new package with make-kpkg | 12:19 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, hmm where could I paste dmesg output for this channel? | 12:21 |
| BenC | email it to me, ben.collins@ubuntu.com | 12:22 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, ok | 12:22 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, almost ready | 12:29 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, ok, sent | 12:33 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, you got some info about system, dmeg output and dsdt.dsl and iasl dsdt.dsl output | 12:34 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, ah and small info - I forgot to write this in mail | 12:35 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, asus_acpi module doesn't load at boot I had to run this module manually to get some info about system | 12:38 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, are you there? | 12:51 |
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| marcin_ant | BenC, ping | 01:15 |
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| zul | heylo | 04:52 |
| zul | sorry i havent been around mucho | 04:53 |
| mjg59 | The ndiuswrapper makefile is broken for amd64 | 05:05 |
| mjg59 | Which is presumably why it doesn't build | 05:06 |
| mjg59 | Oh argh the kernel's ndiswrapper build it mad | 05:10 |
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| zul | meh... | 05:13 |
| mjg59 | zul: Did you see me talking about ndiswrapper? | 05:13 |
| zul | mjg59: nope lagging like hell | 05:13 |
| mjg59 | zul: ndiswrapper in the kernel source is trivially broken on amd64 | 05:14 |
| mjg59 | It shouldn't include divdi3 there | 05:14 |
| zul | ok..is it broken in the newer version? | 05:15 |
| mjg59 | Looks like it | 05:16 |
| mjg59 | Basically, OBJS := divdi3.o is wrong | 05:16 |
| zul | hmmm....got a patch? ;) | 05:16 |
| mjg59 | There should be a ifdef CONFIG_X86 OBJS +=divdi3 endif or whatever | 05:16 |
| zul | gimme a sec.. | 05:16 |
| mjg59 | Oh, or is CONFIG_X86 defined for amd64 | 05:17 |
| mjg59 | Wargh | 05:17 |
| mjg59 | ifndef CONFIG_X86_64 or whatever, then :) | 05:17 |
| mjg59 | ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_64),n) | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | OBJS += divdi3.o | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | endif | 05:18 |
| zul | okie dokie ill make a patch | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | And then remove divdi3 from the first OBJS | 05:18 |
| zul | that syskonnect stuff is a pain in the ass | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | Hm | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | Then ndiswrapper needs enabling on the x86 kernel configs | 05:20 |
| mjg59 | I've poked elmo to get the userspace stuff done | 05:20 |
| mjg59 | Then I have a patch to get it to load the driver for my card... | 05:20 |
| zul | mmmmm...ok | 05:20 |
| mjg59 | x86_64 kernel configs, that is | 05:21 |
| zul | cool...ill get to it as soon as i get this test kernel to build | 05:22 |
| mjg59 | Rock, thanks | 05:22 |
| zul | no prob | 05:24 |
| zul | *sigh* at least one of my patches work | 05:51 |
| mjg59 | :) | 05:52 |
| zul | mjg59, its building ill commit it tomorrow | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | zul: Thanks! | 05:55 |
| zul | night | 05:57 |
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| marcin_ant | BenC, ping | 11:14 |
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| zul | hey | 01:44 |
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| zul | feel so old...happy bday to me | 02:08 |
| chmj | happy birthday chuck ! | 02:36 |
| zul | thanks charles | 04:00 |
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| pawdro | does anyone know if kernel newer than 2.6.10-5 has better memory usage, because i have 256 ram and in many cases ive got 3-6mb ram free | 04:19 |
| pawdro | using ubuntu | 04:20 |
| zul | pawdro which kernel are using? 386? | 04:23 |
| pawdro | 386 | 04:23 |
| pawdro | ive got 1.2GHz | 04:23 |
| pawdro | computer | 04:23 |
| zul | try using the 686 kernel | 04:24 |
| pawdro | hmm | 04:26 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: Having little free memory is good | 04:29 |
| mjg59 | The kernel will use it to cache stuff | 04:29 |
| pawdro | mjg59: why's that? | 04:29 |
| mjg59 | It'll throw it away when you need more RAM | 04:29 |
| mjg59 | There's no point in having RAM that isn't used for something | 04:29 |
| pawdro | but if I buy another 512, it'll speed up? won't it? | 04:34 |
| mjg59 | Probably a little, yes | 04:35 |
| mjg59 | It depends what you're running | 04:35 |
| pawdro | recently firefox(2-4 tabs) xmms | 04:37 |
| pawdro | and gadu gadu client | 04:38 |
| pawdro | u'll probably wont know it | 04:38 |
| pawdro | and it's impossible to see some avi because ive got 3-4 ram free and movie slows down | 04:39 |
| pawdro | :/ | 04:39 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: This is very unlikely | 04:40 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: The figure you want to look at is the line that says -/+ buffers/cache: | 04:40 |
| pawdro | how can I check it? | 04:40 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: Run "free" | 04:40 |
| pawdro | yes;] | 04:41 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: This is the wrong place to be asking - #ubuntu would be better | 04:41 |
| pawdro | ok ok | 04:41 |
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| marcin_ant | pawdro, remember that linux uses a lot of ram for buffer | 04:56 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, so in fact this ram is not used but taken for buffers | 04:56 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, you need to run free | 04:56 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, and take a look on second line of it's output | 04:56 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: hey | 04:57 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, in first line you got 'used' and in second you got 'used - buffers' | 04:57 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, hi | 04:57 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: can I paste 'free' here? | 04:57 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, well propably yes | 04:58 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, I won't scream ;) | 04:58 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, and what about this asus acpi thing? | 04:58 |
| pawdro | but i can be kicked:> | 04:58 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: you may want to contact the ACPI upstream maintainer and get him a copy of your dsdt to see why there is a parse error | 04:58 |
| pawdro | or not:p | 04:58 |
| pawdro | total used free shared buffers cached | 04:59 |
| pawdro | Mem: 256808 241396 15412 0 5584 93824 | 04:59 |
| pawdro | -/+ buffers/cache: 141988 114820 | 04:59 |
| pawdro | Swap: 626524 29896 596628 | 04:59 |
| pawdro | so any conclusions? | 04:59 |
| BenC | marcin_ant: have you tested that system with windows? | 04:59 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, yes | 04:59 |
| BenC | does windows see the battery? | 04:59 |
| marcin_ant | BenC, it works ok - this battery is ACPI\PNP0C0A\O (ISA) Microsoft ACPI blablabla somethingsomething I don't remember :) | 05:00 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, pretty simple situation | 05:00 |
| pawdro | ? | 05:00 |
| pawdro | and? | 05:01 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, your system uses 242396 but 141988 is really taken | 05:01 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, and 114820 goes for buffers/cache | 05:01 |
| zul | hey BenC | 05:01 |
| pawdro | ok | 05:01 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: You have 114MB of free memory | 05:01 |
| BenC | hey zul | 05:01 |
| zul | how is it going? | 05:01 |
| BenC | not too bad | 05:02 |
| BenC | zul: you have several patches in your repo? | 05:02 |
| pawdro | mjg59: there's nothing i can do to improove it? | 05:02 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: In what way? You have plenty of free memory | 05:02 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Are you doing another build before preview? | 05:02 |
| zul | yeah you already merged them, i had the same patches that you already commited | 05:02 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, you can turn off firefox,xmms, gadu gadu and Xfree and work with emacs on console ;) | 05:03 |
| BenC | mjg59: I don't have a timeframe for another build, other than when I can get as many fixes as possible into the repo | 05:03 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, you will only have to download ekg as gg client ;) | 05:03 |
| BenC | zul: really? damn, sorry | 05:03 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ok | 05:03 |
| zul | no problem...thats why we should sit down and not duplicate each other | 05:03 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I've got a few fixes for input stuff for you | 05:04 |
| BenC | well, I saw one you said you would get, but I didn't notice till after I did it | 05:04 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: I see :D but there's no way to improve it? like changing parameters or changing scripts? | 05:04 |
| pawdro | or I have to buy some ram | 05:04 |
| pawdro | :> | 05:04 |
| zul | BenC, yeah i know | 05:04 |
| mjg59 | pawdro: Why do you want more RAM? You have plenty of free RAM | 05:04 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, but seriously if you got problems with avi it's propably problem with player/codecs/video output settings/your graphics card driver | 05:04 |
| BenC | mjg59: cool, send them whenever you're ready | 05:04 |
| pawdro | in fututre (next 2 monts) I want to use eclipse | 05:05 |
| pawdro | and it's required 512 ram | 05:05 |
| zul | BenC, besides none of my patches are applying corectly anyways | 05:05 |
| pawdro | so I have to buy another 512 ram | 05:05 |
| pawdro | or more? | 05:05 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, you propably can get some extra speed by tweaking hdparm settings | 05:05 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, 512 for eclipse is minimum | 05:05 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: it's tweaked;] | 05:05 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, I suggest emacs - it's much better than eclipse ;) | 05:06 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: so U suggest to buy 512 or 1gb? | 05:06 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, it depends what do you want to do with eclipse | 05:06 |
| pawdro | write programs:d | 05:06 |
| pawdro | and start learning it | 05:06 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, java programs or java websites? | 05:06 |
| pawdro | maby db or cryptography | 05:06 |
| pawdro | programs | 05:07 |
| pawdro | and things i mentioned | 05:07 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, then 512 propably will be enough | 05:07 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, 512 is not enough if you want to hack some servlets and run at least one tomcat instance | 05:07 |
| marcin_ant | pawdro, you got 1,2 Athlon right? | 05:08 |
| zul | mjg59, ill commit the ndiswrapper stuff after i finished my work work | 05:08 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: buying 512 ill hace 768 | 05:08 |
| pawdro | have* | 05:08 |
| pawdro | celeron 1.2 tualatin | 05:08 |
| pawdro | and ram is dimm sdram | 05:08 |
| pawdro | :/ | 05:08 |
| pawdro | unfortunatelly | 05:08 |
| marcin_ant | well then 768 will be definetly enough | 05:09 |
| marcin_ant | but believe me - eclipse will not run _fast_ on this machine | 05:09 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: I suppose | 05:09 |
| pawdro | and i'm thinking about jbuilder 2005 | 05:09 |
| marcin_ant | I got Athlon 1,2 GHz with 512 ddr and eclipse from ubuntu breezy | 05:09 |
| pawdro | but it's not discussion for that channel | 05:10 |
| marcin_ant | (compiled with gcj) is acceptable but slow | 05:10 |
| pawdro | yhm | 05:10 |
| zul | please take it to #ubuntu guys | 05:10 |
| pawdro | ok | 05:10 |
| marcin_ant | in fact eclipse is _fast_ on >3 GHz machines | 05:10 |
| marcin_ant | zul, ok | 05:10 |
| mjg59 | zul: Thanks! | 05:11 |
| marcin_ant | :) | 05:11 |
| marcin_ant | sorry ;) | 05:11 |
| pawdro | ;] | 05:11 |
| pawdro | sorry 2 | 05:11 |
| pawdro | marcin_ant: r u pole? | 05:11 |
| mjg59 | zul: Still having trouble with the sk98lin stuff? | 05:26 |
| zul | yeah..patch kind of works but it doesnt will look at it this week | 05:26 |
| mjg59 | Heh | 05:26 |
| zul | but tonight im going out to dinner with my folks | 05:27 |
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| thrice` | is fglrx going to be updated before preview ? | 08:14 |
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| dmk | hi guys, I am sorry to ask this here. but I am looking for the package with the source code for 2.6.12-6-386. I know there is 2.6.12-8-386 but I would like the old one so I can compare some files between each other. This is for Breezy. | 09:00 |
| dmk | I have been trying to work out where I could find it but to no avail - no one on #ubuntu could answer this. | 09:00 |
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| BenC | dmk: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/ | 10:39 |
| BenC | get the .orig.tar.gz, and the -6 .dsc and .diff.gz | 10:39 |
| jbailey | BenC: Hey - are you aroudn tomorrow? | 10:44 |
| jbailey | BenC: I'm just finishing the update-initramfs hack, and I imagine that I'll need to get the kernel packaging to use it tomorrow (after mdz approves it for the preview) | 10:45 |
| jbailey | Since I missed a few pieces last time, it would be nice to have you proof the work. | 10:45 |
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| BenC | jbailey: yeah, I'll be on first thing in the am | 11:30 |
| desrt | BenC; i'd like to get bug 14050 fixed and i was wondering if you think you'd be able to fix the kernel | 11:40 |
| desrt | BenC; basically, ACPI is reporting batteries as "discharging" when they're not | 11:41 |
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