[12:03] ah... it's azureus... but i can't find it in ubuntu though... [12:03] He probably pulled it from somewhere. [12:04] never mind, the package is bad taste anyway. [12:04] hm... then he shouldn't have installed it in the first place ;) [12:04] You'd be amazed how many people want glittering bling on their systems. [12:04] amsn and such. [12:05] hehe [12:05] Then again, if msn is your social life, perhaps extra smilies is a great enhancement of your quality of life. [12:05] probably you might file a bug against the person who packaged *that* azureus (if you can track it) [12:06] HiddenWolf: :-) [12:06] probably in hoary-extras in backports or something [12:06] ajmitch!!!!!!!!! [12:07] yes? [12:07] ajmitch, he got it from some repro listed at ubuntuguide, so i'm spanking first, and bugfiling later. :) [12:07] Hi :-) [12:07] oh, ubuntuguide.. [12:07] that explains it :) [12:08] As of 02/08/2005, Ubuntu backports has officially moved to the UbuntuForums site. You will be redirected momentarily. [12:08] lol, i read what i just wrote... plz. don't file bugs against persons ;) [12:09] "the connection was refused while contacting backports.ubuntuforums.org" [12:11] Mithrandir: your pymarkdown rocks [12:11] Mithrandir: thanks. [12:12] tseng: yay, thanks. :-) [12:12] as a packager or as an user? [12:12] a user. [12:12] good to hear. :-) [12:12] pymarkdown? [12:12] i was using markdown on wordpress [12:12] but now that that server is dead, i will try pyblosxom [12:13] Mithrandir: have you seen a wp -> pb? i cant find one. [12:13] tseng: what format is wp in? [12:13] Mithrandir: sql [12:14] should be easy enough to write something to convert it, but no, I haven't seen anything. [12:14] yeah im sure i could do it myself [12:14] but im lazy :P [12:15] No kidding === bddebian hides [12:16] ajmitch: Give me something to do ma [12:16] N [12:16] bddebian: fix stuff [12:16] ajmitch: Like? [12:16] ajmitch: And no one uploads my stuff anyway.. ;-P [12:17] meh, I'm busy today [12:17] the more you complain the less inclined I am to upload :P [12:17] You are always busy. :-) [12:18] I'm a little loathe to continue on UnmetDeps because it takes more time to see where we are then it does to fix stuff. [12:19] yes, I'm at work, so I've got work to do [12:19] I'll do ubuntu stuff when I want some R&R tonight [12:19] heh [12:20] OK, I'll stop bugging you, sorry [12:20] hey guys. [12:20] Heya jblack [12:21] hi jblack [12:21] Started blogging. ;) [12:22] uh oh [12:22] on planet ubuntu yet? [12:22] Not yet. [12:23] anyways, if you're curious, jamesdblackwell.blogger.com [12:23] I was, however, thinking about starting up planet.revisioncontrol.net [12:25] host not found (the blogger url) [12:26] Where the heck has dholbach been? Or herve? [12:26] sorry. jamesdblackwell.blogspot.com, perhaps [12:26] jblack: there was some whining on mailman-devel about the push mirror being broken; perhaps a notice to old users might be in order? [12:27] shouldn't be broken. [12:27] bddebian: dholbach has been finishing his thesis, defending his thesis, and moving [12:28] ajmitch: Ahh [12:28] jbailey: mea culpa, the debian-emacs list [12:29] s/jbailey/jblack/ [12:30] would you mind forwarding it to me? [12:30] james.blackwell@canonical.com will do fine [12:30] jblack: the thread around http://lists.debian.org/debian-emacsen/2005/08/msg00039.html [12:30] I'll forward it [12:31] says it works fine? [12:32] Mithrandir: http://tseng.ath.cx/pyblosxom.cgi < have you ever seen this before? [12:32] Mithrandir: something is spitting #s (return codes?) into my html [12:32] jblack: that's my mail, yes, read the followup === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.111.dynamic.phpg.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:34] tseng: you're not sending out the right Content-Encoding headers. It should send out Content-Encoding: chunked. [12:35] jblack: anyway, I forwarded the thread to you and followed up to it, Cc-ed you. But, I'm off to bed now. [12:35] tseng: use apache or some other real httpd. :-P [12:35] but, off to bed, for real. [12:35] Mithrandir: cya :) [12:35] Mithrandir: limited ram on the box. [12:38] Later Mithrandir [12:40] Oh, You're Tollef? [12:41] | publicly accessible mirror site (push.sourcecontrol.net) crapped out a [12:41] he was :) [12:41] Ohhh! I see what's going on. [12:41] He's not talking about the supermirror. He's talking about a machine in my basement. === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] Heya tritium [12:45] Hi bddebian === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn229-222.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] hi [12:47] Hey dholbach :) [12:47] hey Treenaks [12:47] Long time no talk, buddy! [12:47] oops [12:47] tritium: [12:48] I FINISHED MY STUDIES [12:48] CONGRATULATIONS!!! [12:48] woohoo! :) [12:48] thank you :) [12:48] dholbach: congratulations! :) [12:48] Awesome! [12:48] dholbach: hugs === ajmitch hands dholbach a beer :) [12:48] THANK YOU ALL [12:48] i'm so happy [12:48] dholbach: YAY! good to have you back! :-) [12:48] you all can't believe it [12:48] We're happy for you [12:48] thank you Nafallo [12:49] dholbach: so we'll expect to see 25+ uploads a day from you now? ;) [12:49] we'll see [12:49] dholbach!!! [12:49] maybe if apt-get.org stuff has my names on them ;-) [12:49] dholbach, now you have to move to Berlin? [12:49] heh [12:49] dholbach: Congrats!! [12:49] congrats dholbach :) [12:49] tritium: yes, and it was one of my best decisions [12:50] Are you there now, or will you move in the next few weeks? [12:50] tritium: i already moved [12:50] excellent [12:52] Good, then get to work. You too tritium .. === bddebian hides [12:52] bddebian: hahahah - it's 00:52 here ;) === tritium slaps bddebian [12:52] Oh, it's early yet then :-) [12:53] bddebian: careful there.. [12:53] ajmitch: ? [12:53] congrats dholbach [12:54] bddebian: don't push people too hard ;) === sistpoty still has ~a year to go [12:54] thank you sistpoty [12:54] sistpoty: Heh, I wish I was in your shoes. I'm 35 and haven't even started on a masters. :'-( [12:54] ajmitch: Bah. :-) [12:55] why would you need a masters? [12:55] nobody needs a masters to work on unmet deps [12:56] I've been considering an MBA and my company will pay for it but I really don't know if I want one. I'd really rather go back and get some CS stuff done. [12:56] i have no degree and i can outprogram anyone in my building [12:56] dont undervalue yourself over papers [12:56] tseng: I am no programmer, believe me :-) [12:57] go get an ubuntu certification when they're out [12:57] bddebian: i see you fixing c++ crappiness [12:57] ajmitch: Now that's an idea :-) [12:57] tseng: Only with others help unfortunately [12:58] bddebian, I'd encourage you to pursue it if it's a personal goal that you have === sjg [n=jason@67.126.87.116] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch has a personal goal of being a bum & maybe doing ubuntu stuff in his spare time [01:00] ajmitch: you'll perform admirably in the second part of it :) [01:00] so far I'm managing the first part ok ;) [01:00] Heh [01:01] ajmitch: you're jesting :) [01:01] tritium: Well my personal goal is winning the lottery and learning more hacking... ;-P [01:01] dholbach: yeah, if I were a bum, I'd have more spare time for ubuntu [01:01] bddebian, good luck ;0 [01:02] Then I could just pay ajmitch to be available for me 24x7 ;-P === ajmitch should have remembered to install an ssh server on the laptop [01:03] This testing laptop is my only ubuntu machine at the moment... === tritium needs to build a new one [01:04] dholbach, are you all settled in your apartment? === ajmitch should not have stayed up so late this morning [01:05] tritium: still a bit to fix up, but i'm fine, the city is simply charming [01:05] coming to work on a monday morning on ~3 hours sleep isn't healthy [01:06] dholbach, good. Anne and I are still unpacking boxes, and fixing up what the tenants didn't take care of so well. [01:06] bddebian: btw, have you arranged for time off for UBZ yet? [01:06] and applied for sponsorship? [01:07] if you can get time away from family as well ;) [01:07] ajmitch: UBZ? [01:08] UbuntuBelowZero, the conference in Montreal === Nafallo was about to say ubuntu bzaar ;-) [01:13] Heh [01:13] Montreal? Hmm, I might actually be able to pull that off. What are the dates? [01:14] ajmitch: heh (@work, sleep) [01:14] heh [01:15] wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero [01:15] dholbach, will you be attending? [01:16] tritium: i think so ;) === slomo not :( no time... [01:16] dholbach, that's great :) [01:16] Two weeks? Yikes [01:16] and no money... but that comes second ;) [01:16] well, i just need to bribe canonical [01:16] Ubuntu Love Day, hehe [01:17] tritium: you too? [01:17] slomo: sorry to hear that [01:17] dholbach, no, I doubt I could take that much time off work === Nafallo copycats slomo [01:18] :-( [01:19] wtf does Mapquest have against Canada? :-) [01:19] i was looking at canada on google maps [01:19] and there were like 3 highways [01:20] Lathiat: so do I, and that's the hard part [01:20] since I don't do much round here [01:20] what kind of beer does mark prefer? ;p [01:21] btw are we waiting on anything for avahi, or can they be uploaded? [01:21] um i see no reason why they cant be uploaded [01:22] ok, we have the required 2 MOTU vote, will upload ASAP :) [01:22] woo [01:23] ok guys - i'm off to bed [01:23] see you tomorrow [01:23] night dholbach [01:23] sleep well [01:23] good night, dholbach [01:23] good to see you back ;) [01:23] cya dholbach [01:24] byeeeeeeeeee [01:24] ajmitch: can you just double check for me [01:24] Lathiat: yes? [01:24] that the installed file is /etc/dbus-1/25-avahi-daemon (as opposed to not having the 25) [01:24] err no - between 25 and avahi [01:24] gn8 dholbach [01:24] and that theres a debian/patches/avahi-dnsconfd-crash.patch [01:24] ok, will check [01:24] as long as thats there im happpy [01:24] oh so we'll have avahi tomorrow? :) seb's panel applet too? [01:24] panel applet hasnt been packaged [01:26] Later dholbach === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn229-222.dsl.ligado.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [01:28] Lathiat: will you package it? otherwise i'll do tomorrow ;) [01:28] feel free to do it :) [01:29] Lathiat: thanks :) i'll just wait for the avahi packages [01:47] Wow, I could drive to Montreal in 8 hours.. Hmm [01:48] Lathiat: patch is there, dbus file is correct name [01:48] bddebian: so why don't you? :) [01:51] Uhm, cause it's cold? [01:51] Or because you might beat me up. ;-P [01:51] Or I might be divorced :-) [01:52] hah [01:53] how would I beat you up? I don't even know if I'm going to be there :) [01:53] :-) === jay [n=jay@208.60.223.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] they're far less likely to sponsor someone from NZ [01:54] whereas you're in with a good chance [01:54] We lost phpapi-20020918? [01:55] I'd rather they sponsor someone "less fortunate". If I can get the time, I could afford the trip. [01:55] um? [01:55] what do you mean, lost? [01:55] Howdy, Thom may told me to get in touch with you guys. Apparently he's not involved with Ubuntu right now (he's the maintainer for Network Manager). Would there be anybody willing to update Network Manager in Universe? There are updated debs here: http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ Or is there a better place to request somebody in MOTU to adopt this before release? [01:56] Not available. I don't remeber seeing spplus on the unmet list before and it depends phpapi-20020918 [01:56] bddebian: phpapi-* is provided by the php modules - 4.4 was ABI incompatible with 4.3 [01:56] bddebian: so depend on phpapi-20050606 instead [01:57] ajmitch: I'm not "fixing" anything anymore.. ;-P [01:57] jay: we can take a look, I'd say it's a good idea to get in touch with Diziet aka Ian Jackson [01:57] since he was working on NM as well [01:57] ajmitch: ah ok, thanks [01:58] are you the same as j^? [01:58] ajmitch: Oh, it deps on shlibs:Depends so it should just need a rebuild eh? [01:58] tseng: nope [01:58] bddebian: should do, I guess [01:58] j^ is working on it [01:58] oh [01:58] so there's 3 people working on NM now? [01:59] jay referenced j^ [01:59] meh [01:59] ajmitch: You guess? :-) === tseng screams [01:59] ogra told me not to upload the actually working one [01:59] and leave the totally bong smoking crap one === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa175.1.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] heh [01:59] bddebian: I can't tell without looking at it [01:59] tseng: you referring to NM? [01:59] Oh, so now you don't "trust" me? ;-P [01:59] jay: yes. [01:59] bddebian: you asked me.. [02:00] ajmitch: I'm kidding [02:00] tseng: do you know if a fixed version will be uploaded by release? [02:00] haha [02:00] i know that 2 weeks ago diziet didnt even realize he broke it [02:01] good luck. [02:01] Well, I guess i'll try and push for it... we're trying to support a bunch of laptop users here at the university and it's driving me nuts ;) [02:01] bddebian: it does some header parsing magic in rules, but it should still work with just a rebuild [02:02] I'll give it a test [02:02] ajmitch: I thought you were "busy"? ;-) === bddebian is a PITA [02:03] bddebian: I am, I'm queuing rebuilds before I go away to lunch [02:03] yes, you are :P [02:03] Sorry man, it just seems like we have a lot to do and breezy is coming up fast. "Just trying to help". :'-( [02:03] bbl === womble [n=mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian has always wondered why there are like 3x as many people in a channel then there are of people that actually say/do anything. :-) [02:17] bddebian: I think the lurker factor is much higher -- 10x or so. [02:17] Aye, though lower here than I have seen in many channels [02:18] I just don't /quit my client on my shell [02:19] cool [02:19] someone submitted valgrind-ppc [02:19] I was thinking about doing it next after the 3 other get uploaded [02:19] .... [02:22] crimsun: I didn't mean you :-) [02:22] And of course tseng and ajmitch probably wish I would shut up so it probably goes both ways ;-) [02:23] =) [02:51] tseng, what ? [02:52] Heya ogra [02:52] hi [02:52] I think they were talking about network manager [02:53] i know, i read the backlog [02:54] i was just wondering why tseng said what he said... [02:54] ogra: i told them to address ubuntu-devel, i am too mean. [02:55] tseng, i wante ^j to get in touch with diziet before i approve any upload, that happened, so feel free to upload any time [02:55] ogra: you dont think now that it will conflict with main inclusion with +!? [02:55] +1 [02:57] i think it might conflict, but since the two devs working on it are in touch, i hope they can work it our [02:57] then I guess we need to hear from j^ again about what they came up with [02:58] tseng: You are mean? ;-) [02:58] bddebian: very. [02:58] yay [02:58] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20050905/report.html [02:58] thanks ogra [02:58] thats beatuty [02:58] oh, nice work [02:58] beauty even [02:58] Yeah that's nice. Now, get on Universe stuff === bddebian hides again [02:58] if base-config/late_command works too, i'm done :) [02:59] :-) [02:59] but that needs an installation... [02:59] and 3am is not the time to start that /me thinks [02:59] Heh === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] hi again! is /etc/[dillorc,dpidrc] conffiles? === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns from lunch [03:04] bddebian: bad news is that an spplus rebuild didn't appear to fix the Depends [03:05] the policy seems to suggest those files are not conffiles, but the last debian package list them as such ;-). [03:05] Nafallo: they should be conffiles [03:05] ajmitch: why? :-) [03:06] because that's what policy says for /etc [03:06] debhelper compat level 3 automatically marks files in /etc/ as conffiles [03:08] bddebian: I'll file a bug on php4 then [03:08] ajmitch: I have NFC what goes wrong here in that case :-(. http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/d/dillo/0.8.5-0ubuntu2/dillo_0.8.5-0ubuntu2_20050905-0039-i386-failed.gz [03:09] Nafallo: what, that config.status was removed? [03:10] in the clean-target yes [03:11] that it's not there at all [03:12] Nafallo: force ignoring the rm errors (should be s.th. like "-$(RM) config.log config.guess") [03:13] in the clean target [03:13] hmm === Nafallo goes to bang his head against this a bit more :-P === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === womble [n=mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] *g* [03:19] Nafallo: debian/rules:15 add "-" ;) [03:19] that will hopefully do the trick [03:21] bddebian: ok, I was wrong, php4 changelog explains the situation, spplus needs fixed [03:22] fixed (1-liner) [03:26] ehm, oops [03:26] wrong changelog btw ;-) [03:26] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/d/dillo/0.8.5-0ubuntu1/dillo_0.8.5-0ubuntu1_20050905-0012-i386-failed.gz [03:27] bah [03:27] hehe [03:28] that's what bugs me ;-) [03:36] anyone? :-P [03:37] Nafallo: seems like /etc/dillorc is not there, but it is mentioned in conffiles [03:38] it IS there :-) [03:38] hm... [03:39] I runned ls debian/tmp/etc right before dh_builddep to try ;-) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] when it should be in debian/dillo/etc ? [03:40] hi jsgotangco [03:40] yep... any special reason you install to debian/tmp? [03:41] ehm, the debian maintainer do ;-) [03:41] morning [03:52] Nafallo: imo you can just drop the dh_movefiles and install to debian/dillo... (or create a dillo.files) [03:53] sistpoty: yepp, I did that now :-) [03:53] hehe [03:53] sistpoty: works! [03:53] cool [03:53] ajmitch, sistpoty: thanx for all help :-) [03:54] you're welcome [03:55] so, it's almost 4am here... time to get some sleep. gn8 everybody [03:56] I'm in the same timezone as sistpoty, but I really want to see that this builds first ;-) [04:23] yay! 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[08:49] dholbach: congrats!!!! [08:49] ivoks: YES :) [08:49] jsgotangco: hi [08:49] thanks [08:49] woohoo [08:49] ! [08:49] now you are? :) [08:49] hey [08:50] he's free [08:50] : [08:50] )) [08:50] yes [08:50] and he's finally aged [08:50] it feels so good :) [08:50] and the titule? [08:50] phd? [08:50] "Diplom-Informatiker (FH)" [08:50] hehe [08:50] it's a diploma, not a ph.d. :) [08:51] hi and congrats, dholbach [08:51] oh, then.... what were you doing till now? :)) [08:51] joke.. === ivoks will be back [08:53] ivoks: you're so funny :-) [08:53] morning dholbach [08:53] hey ajmitch, how's it going? [08:54] good, how are you? [08:54] i'm fine, thank you [08:54] the motu report is due again - could we get some quotes, some infos on what happened? === ajmitch sat around, did nothing ;) [08:55] that's not true [08:55] dholbach: don't take it personaly :) [08:55] i read universe-bugs and breezy-changes ;) [08:55] ivoks: i dont, dont worry :) [08:55] dholbach: well, you should :)))) [08:55] dholbach: heh ok [08:56] morning, guys [08:56] dholbach!! [08:56] dholbach: already in berlin? [08:56] morning siretart [08:56] huhu ajmitch [08:56] I got anjuta synced finally [08:56] siretart: yes :-D [08:56] wooohoo! [08:56] dholbach: :) [08:56]