[12:05] kernnel [12:05] anyone? === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos_ [n=dw@host-84-9-108-162.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Wictory [n=Wictory@c213-100-113-33.swipnet.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] hello Wictory [12:14] hi === wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Cashel [n=doc@0-2pool34-136.nas16.portland1.or.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === Cashel [n=doc@0-2pool34-136.nas16.portland1.or.us.da.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === apokryphos_ [n=dw@host-84-9-33-188.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] what's up? [12:17] im just chilling [12:17] :D === aseigo [n=aseigo@kde/aseigo] has joined #kubuntu === utter_ [n=keith@utterhome.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === flugh [n=jim@pool-70-22-51-173.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === ken [n=ken@pool-71-104-1-209.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] should i uncomment all four lines in sources.list? [12:22] for universe? [12:22] yes [12:23] so whats the security ones from universe that are the last two? [12:23] cause in the uncommented text, it only says i should uncomment two [12:24] libben: yes, uncomment all of them in your default sources list [12:25] k thxs. then type apt-get update ? [12:25] libben: and whereever it says "universe" space over and add "multiverse" [12:25] libben: yes [12:25] as in "universe multiverse" === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [12:26] I will be the one [12:26] http://pastebin.com/355624 [12:26] thats one is good? [12:27] what was the deal with multiverse? [12:27] libben: that's it. Add Multiverse for more packages [12:27] you can learn about the different repositories here... [12:27] !components [12:27] it has been said that components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view [12:27] to add it, where there is a line with "universe" also add "multiverse", as nalioth said. [12:28] ok, so i copy all the four lines i just uncommented... and paste them again and add multivers to it [12:29] er, what? [12:29] just add multiverse. Paste? [12:29] as in, why do you need to paste anything? [12:29] so no universe? [12:29] erm, what? [12:30] Use this... [12:30] !sources [12:30] sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [12:30] and uncomment any repos you want to use. [12:30] (the pastebin there, that is) === _eoin [n=eoin@host-194-46-224-151.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis00 [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] so i just copy the pastebin one ? shoud i uncomment the source debs? [12:32] if you plan on using the source debs [12:32] im pretty new to this. am i planning on using source debs? =) [12:33] probably not [12:35] hmm only getting 900 fps in glxgears [12:35] why [12:35] should have around 2-4000 [12:36] I need some help with KDevelop [12:36] if anyone knows about it...? [12:36] libben: you can back up your existing sources.list and use the one you get from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [12:37] yeah, it's a great one ! === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] just installed mc. [12:37] now then =) [12:37] but public.planetmirror.com doesn't work does it ? [12:38] dont wanna use i386 on my box that is a p4 1.7,,, its a i686 ? [12:38] how do i update that easily? [12:39] libben: krusader is a kde variant of mc [12:39] libben: search for kernel 686 in synaptic [12:39] just installing synaptic [12:39] krusader any good? [12:40] libben: all software is free, try it. if you dont like it, don't use it [12:41] libben: not better than Konqueror [12:41] is there a channel for Kubuntu PPC users [12:41] utter_: you're in it [12:41] utter_: or #ubuntu [12:41] apokryphos: i mentioned krusader to libben b/c he mentioned mc [12:42] I'm just guessing that some of the packages for PPC are WAAAAY behind those on x86? [12:42] sure [12:42] utter_: yes and for amd64 as well [12:42] I have no hoary-extra working [12:42] utter_: some of the delay can be compensated for, tho [12:42] do you have the same problem ? [12:42] so that's why KDevelop is version 2.1? [12:43] utter_: i run ppc and i've had to compensate [12:43] djib: what's the problem? [12:43] neither http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ nor http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ nor ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ work at my place when I do apt-get update [12:43] it says ign and the adress [12:43] :wq [12:43] it says what? [12:44] so, nalioth - how easy is it to 'compensate' what have you done? [12:44] Ign ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-extras/restricted Packages [12:44] for example [12:44] djib: the mirrormax ones are the best to use generally [12:44] but they don't work [12:45] well, what's the full error output; you only get that line? [12:45] and by the way what are hoary-extras-staging/ [12:46] apokryphos: I get a Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras Release.gpg [12:46] utter_: if there are source pkgs available for what you want, apt can build the pkg for you [12:46] ok [12:46] im in synaptic [12:46] so what do i choose ? [12:46] djib: and *nothing* else? [12:47] nalioth - done that on a redhat machine but not in deb [12:47] well there's about 5 lines just like this [12:47] linux 686? [12:47] with main, universe, multiuniverse and restricted [12:47] or 686 headers? [12:48] can i use the linux-686-smp think my cpu can handle it. [12:48] utter_: enable your deb-srv lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list [12:48] deb-src, even [12:48] djib: and no "error" [12:48] not when I do an apt-get update apokryphos === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] libben: do you have dual processors? [12:49] but when I input http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net in konqueror I get something [12:49] it's so strange [12:49] nalioth - just did that - now what? [12:51] apokryphos: any idea what's happenig ? [12:51] utter_: make yourself a 'build' directory [12:51] is it because I didn't add a key or something [12:52] I read that somewhere and I can't find where [12:52] djib: I think that means it already has the current file [12:52] no but i have hyperthreading, the same but with one cpu [12:52] or am i wrong? [12:52] apokryphos: I don't know because for all others it does an update [12:52] libben: ok then, try the smp kernel [12:52] nalioth - done that... [12:53] djib: and you definitely can't get packs from hoary-extras? [12:53] utter_: then in a terminal in your 'build' dir, type "sudo apt-get build-dep " [12:53] I don't know apokryphos [12:53] aaaah! cheers nalioth - lets's hope it's in there ;) [12:53] yeah it seems to be some security issue [12:54] so what's the actual problem? :D [12:54] did you add a key to get those or not ? === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] apokryphos: I just don't like to see Ign ^^ [12:54] hmm, i seem not to have ht on my cpu... anyway... must sleep... gf getting tired. later. [12:54] djib: we all see Ign [12:54] ? [12:54] why [12:55] because it means that it's not re-downloading the file [12:55] libben: in a terminal, type "cat /proc/cpu" [12:55] since it already has the exact one [12:55] oh, I see [12:55] thanks [12:55] and by the way, what do you do to get packages such as win32 codex [12:56] sudo aptitude install w32codecs [12:56] if you have hoary-extras enabled [12:56] !codecs [12:56] well, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [12:56] ok I was searching for a package named win32codecs [12:56] that's why [12:56] thanks [12:57] and one more question (sorry but I'm a real newb with ubuntu) [12:57] what are backports for ? [12:57] djib: backports are programs from the future [12:57] ok [12:57] programs that weren't able to make it for the freeze of the current version [12:57] gotcha [12:57] so they're "backported" [12:58] so maybe I don't need it ^^ [12:58] djib: ubuntu releases every 6 months. some of the programs in the world outside advance, but do not get added until the next release [12:58] thanks [12:58] so 'backports' are programs from the next release, available now [12:58] and what does hoary-extras-staging mean [12:58] I mean the word 'staging' [12:58] what does it mean ? [12:58] djib: anything -staging means the programs are not quite ready for general use [12:59] ok [12:59] well thank you all very much [12:59] I really enjoy kubuntu [12:59] =) [12:59] it's the only disto I tried that got my wifi working [12:59] just after the installation [01:00] and you can hibernate [01:00] and so many cool things [01:00] djib: congrats! [01:00] ^^ === blackflag [n=stef@p54ABE64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] hello all [01:00] nalioth: it took me about a full month before having it work on my gentoo [01:01] djib: well, that's gentoo [01:01] hello blackflag [01:01] ^^ [01:01] yes [01:01] I won't be using gentoo anymore [01:01] I was away for one month so I didn't do any update [01:02] when I came back I had 120 packages to compile... it took me 3 days !!!! [01:02] yeouch [01:02] I have a problem/ question to gpg [01:02] blackflag: ok ask === nalioth braces in his seat [01:02] when i use gpg on my linux and send it to win mail client the message is attached [01:03] kgpg! [01:03] on the win is pgp === aseigo_home [n=aseigo@S010600023f8bac18.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === dabugas [n=dab@ipd34.217.tellas.gr] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] hi [01:03] when I try to decrypt with pgp Im not succesfull [01:03] blackflag: how are you using gpg on your linux? [01:03] blackflag: pgp is not open source I think [01:03] i got a little problem: my applet clock informs me that the time is "00:06 London" [01:03] what gives? [01:04] pgp is open source [01:04] is it ? [01:04] yes [01:04] i thought that gpg was ans pgp wasn't [01:04] dabugas: right click on it, and select the option to change the format [01:04] blackflag: can you not use gnupg on windows? [01:04] the format is: SHORTWEEKDAY DD/MM/YY [01:04] one more question to try and understand ubuntu : what are 'extras' [01:04] no they make commercials with that is open source [01:05] I mean what kind of package is it ? [01:05] yes I can [01:05] djib: gnupg is open source, pgp is public domain, i believe [01:05] but others have pgp [01:05] ok nalioth [01:05] blackflag: how are you using gpg on your linux? [01:05] oh, wait, i got it. [01:05] djib: extras are softwares that are 'legally questionable' re licences, etc [01:06] Hmm I use kgpg [01:06] blackflag: are you signing email, encrypting data, what? [01:06] encrypting mails [01:07] when I send it it is attached [01:07] why? === juju [n=juju@gen92-2-82-225-115-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] on the win box I have to save it first [01:07] blackflag: kgpg isnt the best talked about gpg frontend === decorum [n=decorum@cko71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] then I can decrypt [01:08] blackflag: does your email client support gpg natively? [01:08] blackflag: or have a plugin? [01:08] no, on the win box only with a plugin === aseigo_home is now known as aseigo [01:08] blackflag: i run thunderbird with enigmail plugin on my linux box, and every1 i send to gets their mail w/o a problem [01:09] w/o? [01:09] blackflag: they ask me what is the crazy stuff (gpg sig block) but they read their mail just fine from me [01:09] without = w/o [01:09] okay [01:10] the sig is not the prob [01:10] the encrypted msg === tungsten [n=mike1@72.28.62.38] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] mail [01:10] how come flashplugin-nonfree is available without 'extras' enable [01:11] i havent seen the need to encrypt anyones mail, i just clearsign all my mails [01:11] it's in Multiverse [01:11] pgp cant read it when it arrives [01:11] not illegal, but proprietary [01:11] oh ok [01:11] cause its a attached mail [01:11] nel | Non-kde-related [01:11] nel | Non-kde-related [01:11] nel | Non-kde-related [01:11] nel | Non-kde-related [01:11] nel | Non-kde-related [01:11] that means then that if I have everything enabled but extras, all my distro will be legal [01:12] gah [01:12] so how can I send encrypted mails to win users === _djib [n=djib@dhcp-144-249.via.ecp.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] it has to be easily [01:12] cause the most are not proffessionels === tungsten [n=mike1@72.28.62.38] has joined #kubuntu === usrx [n=usrx@69.111.17.32] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] Imlooking alot around the web but cant see a solution [01:14] and the other thing is [01:14] how do I get a history as sudo? sudo history does not work? [01:14] when I have a .txt file i can encrypt it but have not some special caracters there [01:15] tungsten: please don't flood the channel again [01:15] tungsten: sudo history is kept in /root/.bash_history [01:15] tungsten: you get a history of sudo under your normal user [01:15] flood? [01:15] the character set is set correctly [01:15] huh? [01:15] tungsten: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1936 [01:16] someonse has an idea?? [01:16] blackflag: not for encrypting data, no [01:16] thanks but I do not know what you are talking about flood? [01:16] hmmmm.... [01:17] should I contact pgp? [01:17] utter_: what happened to you? [01:17] has any one of you installed a chinese input program ? [01:17] bye everyone [01:17] tungsten: posting many times in a row without apparent cause. [01:17] blackflag: i'd offer your windows folks the gnupg website [01:17] keybd maybe stuck? [01:18] sorry please accept my appology [01:18] yes thats the a good way but the best is going Linux!!! [01:18] =) [01:18] but some are ?angry [01:19] going Linux [01:19] do you know any good firewall with a good gui [01:19] How you are telling others to go to linux? [01:19] Its not so easy [01:20] !firewall [01:20] [firewall] Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. [01:20] ups angry was the wrong word [01:22] afraid! [01:22] I upgraded from warty to kubuntu prob 2 weeks ago there is no record in /root/,bash_history is there a file that stores synaptic and aptitude commands? [01:22] is the correct one I want to say [01:22] I need to repeat the procedure on another machine === zim [n=zim@zimonline.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] !upgrade [01:24] One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [01:24] djib: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130 [01:24] there is more than firestarter [01:24] tungsten: aptitude and synaptic have no history [01:26] ok nalioth [01:26] i'll read that [01:26] ubuto: nice use of sed thanks === kailey [n=kailey@cpe-024-211-224-054.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] Breathe in... [01:28] kailey: it's all good [01:28] kailey: can you http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:28] Paste my /etc, etc? [01:29] !paste [01:29] well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text [01:29] kailey: that link there is a pastebin service. Paste things into there, and then press "send" [01:29] kailey: in this case, it's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf we want to see, so paste it in there. [01:29] How do I get that? [01:30] kailey: and then copy the URL in the address area and paste the URL in here [01:30] kailey: in terminal: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:30] from there you can copy it and then paste it onto that page [01:30] I copied that stuff.. [01:31] I put it where? [01:31] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl [01:31] ... [01:31] thanks agian good night [01:31] 'night ;) [01:33] kailey: be sure to click "Send" once it's in there. [01:33] good night apokryphos [01:33] I did [01:33] djib: 'night [01:33] ok [01:34] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1937 [01:35] kailey: type this in a terminal: sudo sed -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:35] apokryphos: wow you're quick === nalioth is waitin for his turn to 'splain some stuff [01:35] Now what? [01:36] Mwuahaha. =) [01:36] kailey: log out and hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace [01:36] Log out of.. [01:36] like click the log out button? [01:36] log out of gnome [01:36] mm.... [01:36] once you have, ctrl alt backspace [01:40] An air conditioner is like a computer...they don't work with Windows open. === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-48-90.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] does any one has kvlc ? === kailey [n=kailey@cpe-024-211-224-054.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] Howdy. [01:42] kailey: here we go [01:42] djib: doesn't seem to be around [01:42] not even on kde-apps [01:43] it seems to be a vlc frontend [01:43] i found it doing an apt-cache search [01:43] kailey: open a terminal pleae [01:43] Okay. [01:44] So huge... *sigh* [01:44] kailey: we are gonna install the VESA driver for you [01:44] !info kvlc [01:44] kvlc: (KDE frontend for VLC (dummy legacy package)), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 52 kB [01:44] djib: oh, indeed. [01:44] is it any good apokryphos ? [01:44] kailey i'm gonna tell you how to start a wizard, and will be here to answer your questions as you go along [01:44] because I know vlc is excellet [01:44] Okay. Thank you nalioth. [01:45] kailey: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [01:45] (it was first developped by students from my school ^^) [01:45] djib: in my experience vlc is good for playing all sorts of vid files [01:45] though xine does it for me, most of the time. [01:45] A blue box came up. [01:45] yes [01:45] but vlc reads almost anythink [01:45] -k+g [01:45] yup [01:46] kailey: answer it's question if you know the answer, if not ,ask me in here [01:46] I don't know the answer... the question is attemt to [01:46] autodetect or ditect [01:46] kailey: then click yes [01:46] video hardware [01:47] desired thing [01:47] x server driver [01:47] kailey: choose VESA for the driver [01:47] enter an identifier for your video card [01:48] typ [01:48] hang on [01:49] type your cards name, or your dogs name or something like 'my nvidia' [01:49] or just accept the dafault [01:49] bus identifier [01:49] click ok [01:49] pci:2:0:0 [01:50] kailey: click ok on the bus ID page [01:50] ... [01:50] nalioth: what driver does ubu set by default? [01:51] apokryphos: whatever it autodetects, usually [01:51] apokryphos: sometimes it doestn work too well [01:51] What mouse port should I do? [01:51] ps/2 [01:52] that isn't up there [01:52] kailey: you can accept the default for mouse [01:52] (presuming you have an average ps/2 mouse...not usb one) [01:52] all of them are /dev [01:52] /dev/input/mice [01:53] select the video modes you would like the x server to use [01:53] how do I select them? [01:54] kailey: use your space bar to enable/disable [01:54] kailey: here is where you choose your resolution [01:54] kailey: you may choose only one, if you only use one [01:55] kailey: is this the space with resolutions or things like opengl, dri, etc? [01:55] Monitors best video mode select === _timbo [n=timbo@68-113-210-229.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] kailey: what kind of monitor (size) do you have and is it lcd or tube? [01:55] If I pick a higher number, does that mean it will look smaller? [01:56] kailey: yes, the larger resolutions make everything look smaller [01:56] Thank you so much. [01:56] I love you. [01:57] we arent done yet [01:57] Oh I know. [01:57] But [01:57] I'm not crying anymore. === Carpe_Libertatem [n=esenthie@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #kubuntu [] [01:58] it's not worth crying over computers :) [01:58] It makes my eyes hurt. [01:58] >< === _marius [n=marius@cp11902-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] Should I restart..? o.o;; [02:00] kailey: once you are done, yes [02:01] Okay. === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] <_marius> Hi i just installed kubuntu and i'm trying out translucency, but it is really crappy. However i think my graphicscard (ati radeon9100 / 128Mb) should be able to do this stuff. So what should i do ? [02:01] I think that nvidia are better with translucency that ati [02:02] I don't know if you can get real translucency with ati [02:02] _marius: sorry, i dont run kubuntu often (and even then, i'm not much on eye-candy) [02:03] djib: ati have virtually no support for Linux [02:03] yeah I know that apokryphos [02:04] <_marius> hmm so it will probably work on my box? [02:04] <_marius> *not* [02:04]