[12:02] desrt: it's unbelievable, really. ACPI was meant to put an end to all this hackyness === GmanZZ is now known as Gman [12:02] ya. kinda funny that apm actually works better, eh? :) [12:03] desrt: but apm doesn;t do half the stuff :-) [12:03] but at least it bloody well does half of the stuff _properly_ :P [12:03] mental note, must test cvs g-p-m with apm again [12:04] hughsie, do you need people with old laptops to help test that? [12:04] anyway... we're probably gonna get a lot of people screaming at us in the next few months === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.TvNetWork.Hu] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:04] good night [12:04] but things have been flowing fairly well between the two of us and the ubuntu guys so i think that after that we'll probably have most of it fixed up [12:04] Burgundavia: yes! [12:04] night martin [12:06] desrt: bring it on :-) [12:06] hah === desrt doesn't temp fate unnecessarily :) [12:07] *tempt [12:08] desrt: heh === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo goes to bed [12:12] <\sh> night mvo :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132139198.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] desrt: night - thanks for the patch [12:37] hughsie; thanks for the prompt review. cheers mate. [12:37] :-) === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === javi [n=jbarroso@185.Red-80-59-2.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] hi, people, I'm having trouble with xrgb and xutils packages on breezy, /usr/bin/showrgb conflict [12:46] on aptitude says me to remove xbase-clients , but gdm depends on xbase-clients, so I can't remove it === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Fui] [12:48] nobody can help me ? [12:48] javi: this is the wrong channel, try #ubuntu [12:48] javi, thats an #ubuntu question === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] oh sorry, before ubuntu chanel wasn't on my channel list, I'll ask there now, thank you [12:52] :) === bskahan [n=bskahan@dsl254-074-249.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@host157-80.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] pitti: I was told you were importing directly from the buildd's.... === jk- [n=jk@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] lamont : s/were/were going to be/ [01:37] lamont : I think he still had some code to sort out to do that. === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-25-55.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] File: chroot-breezy/build/buildd/coreutils_5.2.1-2ubuntu2_powerpc_translations.tar.gz === lamont bitchslaps infinity [01:46] File: rhythmbox_0.8.8cvs20050710-0ubuntu1_translations.tar.gz [01:46] see the difference? [01:46] wanna send me a patch for sbuild? [01:47] (File: in translations.txt is the $CWD relative location of the file...) [01:48] infinity: once that's done, I'll push the new sbuild, fix the existing files, and turn the script on rookery back on === sfvt [n=sfeehan@pool-71-241-137-217.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS! [01:50] good morning jdub [01:50] mdz: ~90% of GNOME 2.12.0 uploaded. There will probably be 4-5 uploads tomorrow morning and then we are ok [01:50] yay, jdub [01:50] 'night jdub, it's just time to sleep here :p [01:50] seb128, awesome [01:50] seb128: woohoo! :) [01:51] morning jdub :-) === jdub is sitting in the ozlabs office in canberra [01:51] seb128: wow! :-) [01:52] anyway time to sleep for now, see you tomorrow guys, 'night === Elleo_ [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Elleo_ is now known as Elleo [02:05] I really want coreutils' sort to grow a "sort --dpkg" and have it use dpkg --compare-versions for sorting. [02:06] cool idea ! [02:07] ogra: Yeah, except that I do this stuff all in shell so that initramfs-tools doesn't depend on a newer glibc ever. So I couldn't use it here anyway. [02:07] But it's tempting to convince the coreutils maintainers that it would be worth having. [02:07] yup [02:07] That way in 4 or 5 years I could use it and feel okay about it. =) [02:08] :) [02:08] Ah, well, it's only 15 lines of shell to do it by hand. [02:11] lamont : Ahh, didn't notice that ${translations} was a full path. Feh. [02:13] yeah - that's the source of the borkage [02:13] anyway, I'll check back in a bit and merge your patch and push... [02:17] lamont : Have you branch/swap the archives yet? [02:18] lamont : lamont.jones\@canonical.com--2005-master? === andy__ [n=andy@134.10.41.202] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] lamont : Committed to -master === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:32] lamont : Ergh, sec. neuro had a custom basename function in here. === infinity checks to see what that does. [02:33] Oh, exactly the same thing as File::Basename. Yay. [02:35] lamont : Okay, that should be good to go. [02:45] sjoerd: because we start gdm at S13, so we have to start the session bus before that === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-131.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:46] Kamion: libdps1> it's orphaned upstream, it won't be shipping with 6.9/7.0. it didn't actually *work* anyway, in the sense that there was no freely-licensed server implementation anywhere in the world. [02:50] daniels: libxp is obsolete, right? [02:51] o x11proto-panoramix: x11proto-panoramix-dev [02:51] o x11proto-xf86dri: x11proto-xf86dri-dev [02:51] daniels: and do they need to be in main? [02:52] elmo, libxp is needed by blackdown java [02:52] ogra: I don't care - I'm talking about main vs. not [02:52] elmo, as long as youre not talking about morgue ... :) [02:53] elmo: xp> yes, panoramix> no, remove from archive, xf86dri> yes [02:54] daniels; can you set me up for write access to the hal cvs on gabe? [02:55] daniels: c) can you arrange for xf86dri to be seeded then, pls?, b) reason, or just "obsolete"?, a) ok. d) what about libxfont*? need to be in main still? [02:55] desrt: please file a bug on bugs.fd.o, product freedesktop.org, component account modifications, and get davidz to put a note in there saying he approves [02:55] daniels; interesting process. will do. [02:56] elmo: c) sure, b) -panoramix- turned into -xinerama- upstream, so just a rename, d) yeah [02:56] desrt: well, it beats the 'ask daniels on IRC while he's eating breakfast' process, which usually leads to things being forgotten [02:56] daniels; point taken :) [02:56] daniels: d) see c) ;-) [02:57] b) done [02:57] <\sh> listing to trance and reading daniels+elmo == smoking some weed ,-) [02:58] <\sh> but it works...wow [02:58] infinity: cool === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] infinity: and yes, that's the master [02:59] elmo: heh, sure. just need to update the seeds in arch? [03:00] daniels: that'll do for a start; I think you're meant to file a maininclusionreport thing too these days [03:00] but even having them in the seeds would help disambiguate it from the cruft === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:06] infinity: btw, -ubuntu27 never released yet... fixed. [03:06] elmo: oh, okay [03:06] lamont : Ahh, yeah, I suppose that header should be a giveaway. :) [03:06] elmo: i doubt i'll need a MIR, since it's all really just moving, but yeah [03:07] bad part is that I already tagged -28, so we'll just skip 27 [03:07] mdz: x11proto-xinerama-dev is a rename from -panoramix-, and libxfont is simply moved over from the monolith. do I need to file an MIR for each, or can I just seed it? [03:08] lamont : Somehow, I doubt anyone will really care. :) [03:08] heh === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt3ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [n=agp@cm-80.111.97.105.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:16] infinity: you feel like dealing with stopping all the buildd's, apt-get install sbuild buildd; and restart? [03:16] or shall I? === lamont is trying to spend family time, you se... [03:16] see, even [03:17] actually... update-chroots should be running now... === lamont fixors [03:18] <\sh> hmm...I should work during the night...more people are awake ;) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:21] lamont : You're on it, then, or doe sthat request still stand? [03:25] done [03:26] well, 8 done, 4 with some serious typeahead action.,.. [03:26] pls check on royal, king, terranova, hooker sometime in a bit.,.. [03:26] actually, it's just one longish command [03:27] Alright, I'll poke at them and make sure they're happy. === jay-bed [n=jay@208.60.223.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:29] sigh... terranova, weddell, ross, king. [03:29] must learn to be precise... :-( [03:29] and the magic to clean the translation filenames is queued. [03:29] I'll turn the script back on after backdating things later tonight or first thing in the morning [03:32] king is done === lamont wanders for a coupl ehours === \sh goes to bed just now === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:33] If anybody here has a centrino, please cat your /proc/cpuinfo to me in /msg. Trying to fix a bug in cpufreq-detect.sh but don't have a cent. laptop myself. [03:33] lamont : Later. Thanks for the manual hoary-cat action. === infinity stares at elmo. [03:34] jay, the best place to look for that is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam [03:34] elmo: ping? [03:35] Burgundavia: good idea :P thanks [03:35] jay, np === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132139198.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:37] jbailey: ping? [03:41] elmo: pingeage === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [n=ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:52] infinity: what happenend to the gstreamer-plugins-multiverse0.8 upload some minutes ago? ;) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] <\sh> ok...good night gentlemen === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@200-158-81-92.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bur[n] er [n=norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-56-52.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:21] slomo : a) How many "minutes ago", b) was it a new source package? [04:22] slomo : c) Did you mean s/gstreamer/gst/? [04:22] infinity: I also lost quake2, uploaded a few hours ago [04:22] ajmitch : 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1? [04:22] infinity: a) somewhere around 3, b) new upstream version, c) yes, d) I was the uploader :-). [04:22] infinity: yes, I don't see build logs for it [04:23] ehm... s/3/1\ UTC/ [04:23] ajmitch : Looks held up on a (bogus?) dep-wait. I'll clear it for you and see what happens. [04:23] infinity: alright, thanks [04:24] Nafallo : As for gst-plugins-multiverse, it doesn't look like it was ever ACCEPTED, so you don't want me, you want elmo (or you want to comb your inbox for a REJECTED message, telling you why) [04:25] infinity: slomo didn't get a mail before he went to bed, I'll tell him to check tomorrow then :-) [04:25] infinity: thanx anyway :-) [04:26] Hmm, how about wiliki (other than i386), and spiralsynthmodular? [04:26] Nafallo : He'll only get one if he's whitelisted in katie. [04:26] infinity: I know. He is. [04:27] Nafallo : At a guess, if it's a new upstream, I'd bet it wasn't built with -sa, and the .orig.tar.gz wasn't included in the .changes. [04:27] Nafallo : Either that, or it wasn't properly signed. Pick one. Those are the two most common. [04:27] infinity: -S -sa -knafallo@magicalforest.se [04:28] so I pick neither ;-) [04:28] infinity: how soon after an upload is the queue cleared, and a package with an .orig.tar.gz can be uploaded? === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:28] ajmitch : You should be able to bang uploads up as fast as you want, modulo bugs in the queue handling. [04:28] alright [04:29] ajmitch : Unlike the Debian queue, ours treats each upload set atomically and (is supposed to) process them as a FIFO. [04:29] fabbione: ping [04:29] ajmitch : So, in theory, you should be able to upload the same source 4 times in a cycle, get 3 REJECTs and an ACCEPT when queue/unchecked is processed. In theory. [04:30] good, because I missed -sa on a NEW upload of avahi first time round :) [04:30] ajmitch : But, if stuff seems to mysteriously disappear, reuploading a little later never killed anyone. :) === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] ajmitch: How do you check the queue? [04:30] bddebian: blind guessing [04:30] ajmitch: Because a bunch of stuff \sh did, don't seem to be building?? [04:31] bddebian: ask infinity, not me === otavio is now known as otavio[off] [04:31] infinity: you can't see that package now right? should I rebuild the changes and reupload? === OddAbe19 [n=OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:32] infinity: Anything wrong with sffview? [04:32] Nafallo : It you're positive it had nothing that would get it caught up in NEW, and it's more than an hour old, then it probably got REJECTED. I don't see it in wanna-build, no. [04:32] Nafallo : I don't have access to the actual ftp queue, so that's the best I can offer. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] infinity: oki, I'll upload it when this :33 is done :-) [04:34] and then go to bed ;-) [04:34] ajmitch : Q2 looks good./me raises his eyebrow at sffview. [04:34] Erm. === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] bddebian : sffview is dep-wait on libwxgtk2.5-dev [04:34] Hmm [04:35] Could be an old dep-wait based on a previously-broken package. === infinity clears it. [04:35] infinity: How about spiralsynthmodular? (Sorry to keep bugging you) [04:36] <[Chameleon] > quick question... is Colony 4 much different from the 20050903 nightly ISO w/current updates? [04:36] bddebian : Ugh. dep-wait on xlibmesa-glu-dev. I assume it was uploaded to fix gl/glu deps? [04:37] Hmm, no, I don't recall it depending on xlibmesa. Hang on === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] bddebian : And sffview has moved form being dep-wait on libwxgtk2.5 to libwxgtk2.6... PROGRESS. [04:38] Oh, nevermind, that's an apt bug. [04:38] Ignore it. ;) [04:39] The problem or PROGRESS? :-) [04:39] The wxgtk dep-wait. [04:39] It'll autoclear. [04:39] The xlibmesa thing isn't an apt bug, though. [04:40] I'm checking [04:40] [Chameleon] : No, but we'd like testing of the installer and livecd. [04:40] <[Chameleon] > infinity: OK... [04:40] <[Chameleon] > infinity: thx [04:41] <[Chameleon] > I'll use some CD-RWs :) === Nafallo uploads gst-plugins-multiverse again [04:42] bddebian : Looks like spiralsynthmodular has the correct gl/glu build-deps now. If you didn't change it, someone (maybe me?) did. :) [04:42] infinity: That's a build-dep?? [04:43] bddebian : It's building fine, after clearing the old dep-wait. [04:43] infinity: Thx [04:46] wow [04:46] breezy-changes have 6200 messages :-P [04:47] Nafallo: is that all? my breezy-changes folder has > 10000 [04:47] infinity: yay! dunno what was wrong before, but it works now ;-) [04:48] a lot of those were from the autosync, before that was redirected to another list === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:48] ajmitch: I moved the debian syncs to ubuntu-changes-auto when that list was created ;-) === ajmitch didn't care, using gmail for it :) [04:48] :-) [04:49] 6201 uploads to date in breezy ;-) [04:49] hehe [04:50] 5842 for ubuntu-changes-auto ;-) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [n=mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kyncani [n=kyncani@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-156-149.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-123.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:41] pitti: translations rolling again [05:41] pitti: and I reimported from july 20 or so... :-) === lamont wonders if vte is due to be uploaded anytime soon, figures not. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] slomo: pong === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ohphracku [n=zombie@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-170-176.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chmj_ [n=chmj@wbs-146-147-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:17] morning [06:17] Hello fabbione [06:19] bddebian: hi, why did you move all my bazzar bugs from malone to bugzilla? [06:19] most of them were marked as upstream [06:19] and not ubuntu specific [06:19] they were supposed to stay there [06:20] I know, I was told that after the fact. My severest of apologies. [06:20] Can I fix them for you somehow? [06:20] move them back as they are supposed to be? [06:21] bddebian: close the bugzilla ones, reopen the malone ones and be sure they are assigned to upstream [06:21] fabbione: How do I re-open the Malone ones? [06:22] bddebian: edit the bug and mark it as new.. i think :) [06:23] bddebian: anyway don't worry too much.. [06:23] these bugs have been opened for ages with minimal response from upstream [06:23] i almost forgot about them until 2/3 people have started playing ping pong with them [06:24] ;) === ajmitch checks the re-opening [06:24] ok, marking as new again works fine [06:26] 269 is re-opened [06:26] 318 marked upstream, re-opened [06:27] OK, bugzilla bugs closed too === Gman is now known as GmanAFK [06:30] danek [06:30] danke === b3nw [n=m@unaffiliated/b3nw] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:34] NP, sorry again === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [06:56] jbailey: still around? [06:59] fabbione: Is there a reliable way of getting the maximum speed of a machine's CPU even on a machine that doesn't support cpufreq? [06:59] mpt: /proc/cpuinfo ? [07:00] but i don't recall if that is affected by speedstep or not [07:00] it shows the full speed on my laptop [07:00] ajmitch: even if the real speed is lower? [07:01] ajmitch: what if you boot in slow speed? [07:01] fabbione: This laptop has a 1.5 GHz CPU but /proc/cpuinfo says 598.630 [07:01] fabbione: I haven't found a way to lower the speed, but it's part of the model name as well here [07:01] fabbione: Unless I can assume that the speed is always going to be in "model name", which seems unlikely === ohphracku [n=zombie@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] mpt: did you try dmidecode? [07:02] no === mpt looks [07:02] Max Speed: 3200 MHz [07:02] Current Speed: 2800 MHz [07:02] oh, brilliant [07:02] the machine make and model is in here too [07:03] mpt: i think the Max speed is referred to the max speed of the processor socket [07:03] because this is a 2.8Ghz [07:03] yes, as mine is reported as 1.8GHz [07:03] CPU itself is 1.3 [07:03] ajmitch: can you try to step down in speed and see if that changes? [07:04] fabbione: So the problem with dmidecode is that it requires sudo [07:04] Current Speed: is sort of a tricky name [07:04] mpt: yes. it parses /dev/mem [07:04] fabbione: I can try when I get home, currently looking via ssh [07:04] and you truely don't want users to do that [07:04] ajmitch: you can force it via /proc, but i don't recall how [07:04] ajmitch: anyway just tell to mpt ;) [07:05] fabbione: Fair enough, but afaik, other popular OSes let anyone see what speed the computer is, whether they're admin or not [07:06] mpt: so can you via /proc/cpuinfo. Probably there is an errata on your cpu that's not in the kernel code [07:07] You mean the kernel needs to be patched to return the correct results for individual models? [07:07] mpt: in some cases yes. [07:07] that' [07:08] that's required when for example there is an error in the cpu (errata) [07:08] hw is not bug free ;) [07:08] ah, and it would be really handy to get that "Product Name:" field from dmidecode too, but it's sudo-only [07:09] mpt: why is sudo a problem? [07:09] what are you trying to achieve? [07:09] fabbione: On Windows and OS X, whether you're an admin or not, you can bring up an About box that tells you basics not just about the OS, but also about the computer it's running on [07:10] I was just trying to achieve something similar [07:11] mpt: you should ask ogra.. [07:11] ah, the hwdb guru [07:11] of course [07:11] he wrote the hwdb-client [07:11] oh hold on [07:11] lshw <- [07:12] it doesn't need sudo [07:12] and it uses info from hald (iirc) [07:12] Teh Aewsome! [07:13] hmmm [07:13] Doesn't mention the word "Toshiba" once, though [07:14] mpt: hold on a sec... [07:14] It has a "Product Name:" for the processor, that's a start [07:15] but no "1500 MHz" or equivalent outside of that [07:15] fabbione@cerberus:/sys$ find . -name "*cpu*" [07:15] mpt: you can poke sysfs... [07:15] not sure how much you can gain... [07:16] but it's another path [07:16] ok, thanks very much for your time fabbione [07:16] np === fabbione goes offline to test an install CD [07:22] bbl === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.154.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] daniels: rename -> just change the seed [07:30] daniels: my rule of thumb is that if the code is already in main, it doesn't need another review === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:43] Good morning === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === infinity heads out to mail some stuff to jbailey and maybe get a haircut. [08:06] morning pitti [08:07] Hi ajmitch === carlospc [n=carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] Hello [08:08] Could any body have a look at #14572? [08:08] Colin has thinked that is a duplicate of #668 [08:09] But #668 refers to the users name (the login) [08:09] and #14572 refers to the full name of the user [08:10] may i send a new bug? === TheGodFather [i=fabbione@3ffe:100:e:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] is netinstall busted??? [08:12] or is it an archive problem? [08:12] <- fabbione [08:14] carlospc : If you don't believe they're duplicates, send a followup to the bug explaning why, don't just keep filing new ones, please. [08:14] infinity, thanks [08:15] carlospc : If you follow the discussion on 14572, howwver, it's already been unlinked and relinked as a dupe, as they are both the same fundamental issue. [08:18] a friend talk me about that (the reporter),i've just read all the comments of 14572, as you said is a duplicate [08:18] Ok, now i know what to do in this cases, thanks infinity [08:18] mdz: kay, cool -- thanks === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] desrt: ping [08:20] arf. [08:20] Hi [08:20] desrt: any luck with daniels and jdub? [08:20] haven't seen jdub. haven't talked to daniels about it [08:20] ah, ok [08:20] daniels; 'sup? :) [08:21] i hear of acpi badness? [08:21] pitti : Had a chance to figure out why hald isn't polling /proc/acpi like you say it should? [08:21] pitti; btw... you're out of sync with HEAD [08:21] Oh, hey, wait. It just did. [08:21] WTF. === infinity frowns. [08:22] pitti; so my patch utterly fails to apply to breezy's hal [08:22] Oh sure, NOW it works. [08:22] desrt: right, we still have 0.5.3 [08:22] nod [08:22] desrt: right, infinity was the other person who could reproduce it (not now any more, as it seems) [08:22] i figured you had mostly kept up to date with the latest and greatest, though [08:22] (which you mostly have... but not entirely) [08:22] desrt: any additional patches I should throw in? [08:22] desrt: yeah, seems to be heisenbugish though [08:22] pitti; i tried to throw in acpi.c from HEAD. it didn't go so well :) [08:23] daniels; :/ [08:23] pitti; you reasonably could use HEAD's acpi.c if you added a utility function to another file.... i don't know if you want to though [08:25] Yergh. What a pain. Can't reproduce it at all now. [08:25] RESOLVED FIXED [08:25] :) === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-118-077.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:27] infinity; please keep your eye out [08:27] infinity; the problem is that hal stops getting updates from acpid, right? [08:27] gar why does metacity keep segfaulting [08:27] daniels; see gnome bug #315000 [08:27] daniels; patch provided [08:28] desrt: I think that approach would be fine, if it helps to fix more bugs [08:28] fixed x86 binary is also here if you're feeling funky: http://manic.desrt.ca/metacity :) [08:28] pitti; ok. i'll look into having a patch for you tomorrow [08:28] desrt: so all these bugs are confined to acpi.c? [08:28] pitti; ya. ACPI SUCKS === ohphracku [n=zombie@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [08:29] all the other backends are simple and just work [08:29] desrt: ok, then I just edit-patch the big acpi-fixes patch and throw in acpi.c from head [08:29] acpi has to deal with a million broken cases [08:29] desrt: I can do it myself, but I need to wait until tomorrow [08:29] (after preview) [08:29] pitti; if you use HEAD's acpi you'll have to modify another file [08:29] desrt: just add a function? [08:30] pitti; HEAD's acpi uses a new calculate_percent function [08:30] (some name like that) [08:30] that should be easy to find [08:30] you might want to just patch that part out, though, since i don't think your other backends will provide the same %age info [08:30] & that way you don't need to patch the other file either === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0371.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:33] i think i just found daniels/infinity's problem [08:33] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2580 2005-09-02 12:47 acpi-support/changelog.gz [08:33] when you guys upgraded this package acpid got restarted [08:34] it seems that hal can't survive an acpid restart [08:34] (or rather, it survives, but after that receives no further acpi events) [08:34] obviously the solution is to NEVER EVER RESTART ACPID :P [08:35] or uh.. fix hal :P [08:35] desrt: can hal reconnect if it detects a SIGPIPE on the socket, or whatever? [08:35] pitti; maybe? i don't really know [08:35] pitti; i bet the authors just didn't think of restarting acpid as something worth handling :) [08:36] daniels: better idea: we restart hald/dbus again and additionally do /etc/init.d/gnome-session restart. MUHAHA [08:36] desrt: this sounds oddly like an argument we've had before about another daemon === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:36] hmm === desrt tries to think about this [08:37] seriously, though.... the only reason i was on that side in the argument was because upstream had good reasons [08:37] reconnecting everything to the system bus properly, and in order, is seriously difficult [08:37] acpid isn't a bus... it's simple client/server [08:38] server restarts -- clients should reconnect === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-069-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] anyway it's on my tomorrow todo list... i'm too tired now [08:41] cheers. === TheGodFather grrrrrs === kobold [n=kobold@debian/developer/kobold] has joined #ubuntu-devel === meskes [n=Matt@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === syn-ack [n=Matt@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kobold is now known as kobold1 === syn-ack [n=Matt@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kobold1 is now known as kobold === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] when i search pr0n in beagle, it mostly finds jdub's blogs === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn227-157.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] Hey hey dholbach [09:08] good morning [09:09] hey pitti === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-144-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-7-58.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jgorski [n=gorski_@209-47-142-199.real.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === syn-ack [n=Matt@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:22] bob2: around? [09:25] morning all [09:25] hey siretart [09:25] sivang :) [09:25] huhu dholbach [09:25] bob2 hates me :( [09:26] heh [09:26] what have you done to him now? :) [09:26] siretart: he doesn't - send him a nice "bernd das brot" cartoon and he'll love you :) === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:27] ajmitch: oh, it just because of lyx broken in universe :( [09:29] I'm fixing it atm [09:29] bbiab [09:29] going through the diff between "files in 1.3.4" and "files in 1.3.6" is long and tedious [09:29] morning bob2 :) [09:31] bob2: jipiee! :) - thanks dude! [09:33] hey dholbach [09:33] dholbach: what brings the day? [09:33] sivang: a bunch of gnome updates :) [09:33] dholbach: nice [09:34] sivang: how are you? [09:35] dholbach: fine, trying to figure yet how to add an appropriate PKG_CHECK_MODULES call for a subtree of the src tree I'm working on [09:35] good luck with that :) [09:35] dholbach: I have just copied from another call in the same configure.ac, however somehow configure ignores it [09:36] sivang: whatcha tryign to do>? [09:36] sivang: you did re-run autoconf, right? [09:36] daniels: hey what'ya think I am ;=) ? [09:36] sivang: also, if your first PKG_CHECK_MODULES call is within an if statement, then you have to run PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG or something [09:36] sivang: you need to change the first part of the PKG_CHECK_MODULES [09:37] you can't have PKG_CHECK_MODULES([FOO] , "$mumble") and then PKG_CHECK_MODULES([FOO] , "$mumblemore") later [09:37] PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG is correct === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:38] Mithrandir: I added a VARNAME to the first part of the _CHECK_MODULES thingy, and added that same VARNAME_CFLAGS and VARNAME_LIBS to the Makefile.am of the module I want PKG_CHECKED_MODULES'd [09:38] Mithrandir: still, it won't do the SUBST [09:39] sivang: so you have PKG_CHECK_MODULES(FOO, bar baz quux), and then AC_SUBST(FOO_LIBS), etc === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-7-58.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:39] daniels: yes, exactly [09:40] daniels: in fact: [09:40] PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GWEATHER_APPLET_2, lpint-bonobo) [09:40]