[12:03] \sh: no more Barrys? :-) [12:04] <\sh> I just uploaded scalapack [12:04] <\sh> now spplus [12:04] \sh: no, don't touch spplus [12:04] <\sh> what's the problem? [12:04] I'm still fixing it to use the proper php-config stuff [12:04] to get the right phpapi depends [12:04] <\sh> ok :) [12:05] <\sh> deleted [12:05] except it's not quite cooperating - should be a simple 1-line fix though [12:05] <\sh> and now t38modem === Nafallo is glad he asked ;-) [12:05] well, in a morning, bddebian gets more packages uploaded than I do in a month ;) [12:06] \sh: and then you could package those common modem-driver-daemon-thingie for amd64 :-P [12:07] <\sh> ajmitch: is it? [12:07] <\sh> well it's just a new morning here ,-) [12:07] \sh: well, maybe more than a month, I don't upload much ;) [12:07] <\sh> but some packages didn't build now [12:07] <\sh> but I can't access the build logs [12:08] yeah [12:08] <\sh> looks like somethings wrong with the buildds? [12:08] maybe [12:08] I haven't seen quake2 hit the buildd yet [12:09] and I uploaded that a few hours ago [12:09] there is a libwxgtk2.5.3, but no dev package :-( [12:09] <\sh> where? [12:09] hub: no, there's no libwxgtk2.5.3 [12:09] hub: 2.6 [12:09] hub, that should disappear [12:09] you may still have it installed on your computer [12:09] but it is certainly replaced [12:10] <\sh> which package? [12:10] I just installed it :-/ [12:10] we dont ship 2.5.3, only 2.6 [12:10] I'l remove it [12:10] <\sh> ok..t38modem uploaded [12:10] then it should get dropped from the archive... i'll ask doko tomorrow if there is any rationale to keep it [12:11] hugin seems to have a problem. damn === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:11] <\sh> there is no 2.5.3 in the archive [12:11] <\sh> debian has it only [12:11] ah [12:12] <\sh> hub: which source package [12:12] Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe libwxgtk2.5.3 2.5.3.2ubuntu4 [3285kB] [12:12] right, hoary... [12:12] we're doing breezy here :) [12:12] ah yeah [12:12] my bad [12:12] sorry [12:12] <\sh> lol [12:12] I should remove hoary from the apt source list [12:14] ajmitch: ok, what should i do with this ipac-ng stuff? [12:14] <\sh> does anyone know which email address sistopy is using for his key? [12:14] ehm, dvdsubdec? [12:15] Lathiat: stare at it in wonder..? [12:15] \sh: same as one REVU I would guess? [12:15] <\sh> daemon@poleboy.com ? [12:15] Lathiat: I'm guessing you want it uploaded, right? [12:15] \sh: try that anyway :-) [12:15] ajmitch: yeh, like, do i have to ask someone else, upload to revu.. etc. [12:15] \sh: probably... that's his email in revu ;) [12:15] Lathiat: generally not, you can stick it up there if you want to [12:16] <\sh> slomo: yes ;) [12:16] i dont want to, more worried if *need* to :) [12:16] Lathiat: I don't have time right now to upload === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] I have to fix the package I have put on REVU then [12:16] crap [12:16] but I can do so later today [12:16] ajmitch: ok but do i need to harass someone else to look at it or is it fine? [12:16] no, 1 person harassment is enough [12:17] ok, thanks [12:17] I use ipac-ng & all, but if someone else wants to upload they can === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rtcm [n=jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] <\sh> damn [12:20] <\sh> missed a s/unstable/breezy/ [12:20] <\sh> in the changelog [12:20] <\sh> grmpf [12:21] heh [12:21] i got into the habit of typing -D breezy [12:21] <\sh> fixed reupload [12:21] <\sh> hmmm [12:21] <\sh> I could remove python2.2 from the packages? [12:21] <\sh> ah no...this is debian stuff...I leave it [12:22] ehm [12:22] why do I have my frenchcourse in rhythmbox?! [12:22] yeh best not to if can, makes merging easier [12:22] \sh: thanks for t38modem [12:23] Nafallo: haha [12:23] Lathiat: debian will be dropping 2.1 & 2.2 [12:23] since they don't want 5 versions of python in etch [12:24] <\sh> ajmitch: but one package without an ubuntuX postfix is good for motu at all ,-) [12:24] \sh: ? [12:24] ajmitch, s/one/every/ ;) [12:24] <\sh> ajmitch: I don't want to change the "rebuild only" packages...if 2.2/2.3/2.4 came directly from debian so I don't change it [12:24] \sh: alright.. [12:25] ogra: thanks, I'm caffiene & sleep deprived today ;) [12:25] caffeine !!! [12:25] <\sh> 4 bottles of coke === ogra walks to the kichen [12:25] ogra: yes, see.. [12:26] \sh: ah, I had about 1.5L over the course of the night [12:26] and another drink on the way to work [12:26] ajmitch: heh, cool [12:26] \sh: Are you still breaking my stuff? ;-P [12:26] <\sh> bddebian: finished [12:26] <\sh> spplus is ajmitch's ,-) [12:26] Ahh :-) [12:26] <\sh> pyorbit I fixed ;) [12:27] <\sh> the rest was good :) [12:27] it's much slower having to actually fix packages === tevaum [n=tevaum@200165025093.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:27] Hmm, rubyfilter got rejected [12:27] <\sh> why? [12:27] 'unstable' :-) [12:27] <\sh> unstable? ,-) [12:27] <\sh> lol [12:28] <\sh> moment [12:28] hahah [12:28] <\sh> here it comes again ,-) [12:29] <\sh> why the hell is sistopy not whitelisted? [12:29] He didn't ask? :-) [12:30] \sh: hrm half of the menu items for kdevelop segfault [12:30] <\sh> Lathiat: ??? [12:30] Lathiat: that's because it want to tell you not to use kde ;-) [12:31] haha [12:31] the KDE/C++ launches but the assitant and 'kde designer' both give me a kde SEGV box [12:31] hehe [12:32] <\sh> kdevelop3? [12:32] ya [12:32] Lathiat: don't worry, you still have 253 other menu items to choose from ;) [12:32] heh [12:33] There are bugs on Malone for kdevelop3 [12:33] <\sh> 4:3.2.2-0ubuntu1 ? [12:33] yup [12:33] <\sh> apt-get install and let me try [12:34] \sh: btw sistpoty has been using daemon@poleboy.de [12:34] <\sh> grmpf...I used the one from the wiki page === df [n=jaldhar@adsl-68-95-228-17.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] yeah, I just looked it up on breezy changes [12:35] neither address is whitelisted anyway [12:35] <\sh> well...Ok...the next packages ;) [12:35] kde seems to be fond of sideways tabs and they are horrid to read [12:36] \sh: Not pushing, just asking. Have you got to my non-MOTU list yet? [12:36] <\sh> no I'm just at the rebuilds [12:37] <\sh> Lathiat: New Project -> C++ -> KDE -> KDE-Application -> Creating <- works for me [12:37] OK, thx [12:37] \sh: in the menu [12:37] as in [12:37] kde or gnomes menu [12:37] theres like [12:37] 6 different icons to launch it [12:38] the 'assistant' and 'kde designer' ones cause a segfault, the kde/c++ one works.. didnt try the others [12:38] <\sh> I ave only one [12:38] herm [12:38] even in KDE [12:38] ive got under 'Development' [12:39] X-KDE-KDevelopIDE [12:39] with like 6 under it.. and in gnome, they all appear under 'programming' [12:39] <\sh> ah kdevdesigner is segfaulting [12:40] <\sh> well sometimes all kde apps are disappearing in gnome panel for me [12:40] also am i the only ones whos gamin pretty much never works anymore [12:40] \sh: heh yeh, i just had that happen just then [12:40] probably a result of gamin being useless [12:40] as it also just stopped working [12:41] http://bur.st/~lathiat/kdevelop.png [12:41] refresh if that 404d === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.157.71.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] re ;) [12:42] <\sh> grmpf [12:42] <\sh> update your wiki page ,-) [12:42] <\sh> sistpoty: [12:42] Heh [12:42] . \sh do you think i should list rebuilds? [12:42] btw.: it's daemon@poleboy.de not .com ;) [12:42] <\sh> Stefan Potyra != Stefan Potyra [12:43] <\sh> yes [12:43] hehe [12:43] <\sh> sistpoty: I meant your email address ,-) [12:43] hehe === rtcm [n=jman@217.129.142.72] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:45] lol, i must have been drunk (or overworked) when i put that email on the wiki ;) [12:45] siretart: both? :-) [12:45] maybe even this *g* [12:45] gaah! === sistpoty is just drinking a beer... prost! [12:45] sistpoty: one of you should change name so that TAB works ;-) [12:46] heh [12:46] hehe... (these are our university logins, so i'm quite used to it) [12:46] <\sh> whois Graeme Kerry [12:46] never heard that name before === Nafallo neither === bddebian either [12:47] who? :) [12:47] <\sh> whois Graeme Kerry === bddebian just moves all Malone bugs to bugzilla [12:47] ;-P [12:47] bddebian++ ;) [12:48] <\sh> sistpoty: your rebuilds are also ok and uploaded ,-) [12:48] i've already seen the -package mails... thx ;) [12:48] <\sh> but even this email address is not whitelisted poleboy.de [12:48] rockin' [12:49] . \sh: i already wrote elmo 'bout it... [12:49] <\sh> ah ok... === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] btw.: sistpoty@jabberme.net [12:50] <\sh> very good :) [12:50] ;) [12:51] \sh: do you have something jabberd2 to try out btw? [12:51] does anybody use kde/gajim? (and try to run it by alt-f2)? === bddebian assigns non-main bugs to ogra ;-P [12:51] bddebian: :-) [12:52] somebody should put a notice in Malone that it is for universe only [12:52] hey \sh, can you get on jabber for a sec? [12:52] bmonty: Aye [12:53] bmonty: baah, I file bugs for seb128 there. and they get fixed to ;-) [12:53] if you read the page it says it is for all of Ubuntu, not just universe....what's the history on that? [12:53] bmonty: Of course a lot of thse bugs are also very old [12:53] <\sh> Nafallo: I had...but this was a nasty stufff... [12:53] s/thse/these/ [12:54] bmonty, sooner than later main bugs will also be in Malone [12:54] \sh: we want nasty stuff :-) [12:54] \sh: we have n-m in universe ffs ;-) [12:54] hm... am i wrong that there are plans to use malone also for main sometime? [12:54] ah... thx. robitaille [12:54] robitaille: ah...in the middle of a transition? [12:54] siretart: nope :-) [12:55] not yet an actual transition, but it is our future. [12:55] <\sh> ok I'm on [12:55] gaah [12:55] ^^ that's what i was trying to say ;) [12:55] s/siretart/sistpoty/g [12:55] hehe [12:55] robitaille: So I shouldn't be rejecting all of these main bugs? [12:55] that's why I don't think it is a good idea to actually refilled non-universe bugs from Malone to Bugzilla [12:55] NOW he tells me.. :-) [12:55] just assign them to the proper people as needed [12:56] sorry bddebian :P [12:56] yep... sorry ;) [12:56] <\sh> whiprush: I'm on :) [12:56] \sh: ehm, I can't see you :-P [12:56] shiite [12:56] <\sh> I know..It's a bug in gajim ... [12:56] robitaille: How do I know who the proper "people" are? [12:57] the strange thing with kde/gajim is if i run it by alt-f2, the run command box won't disappear... but i dunno if this is gajim or kde-related (yet) [12:57] \sh: huh? that's I can see everyone but you? ;-) [12:57] if you know you know...if you don't then leave unassigned. At least that is what I do [12:57] <\sh> Nafallo: it's a bug in gajim...I rechecked it with psi and exodus...and it's ok with them [12:57] robitaille: OK [12:58] I know that pitti refers to be cc'ed to security bugs (but not assigned) in Malone [12:58] for example [12:58] s/refers/prefers [12:58] Hmm, another "undocumented" MOTU clause.. ;-) [12:58] <\sh> and gabber wasn't only a rebuild :) [12:59] \sh: OK, I'll pull it off the list when I update my stuff, thx again [01:00] hehe, and i'll update my list, once the buildd's have finished \sh's upload orgy [01:03] <\sh> check the buildds ;) [01:04] <\sh> argl...and some strange buildd bugs *grmpf* [01:05] ? [01:05] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/p/pysol-sound-server/3.00-2ubunut1/pysol-sound-server_3.00-2ubunut1_20050905-2305-i386-failed.gz [01:06] what is the process to get a newer version of a debian package brought in to universe (i.e. childsplay)? [01:06] <\sh> syncing [01:06] put it on MOTUToSync? (and ping elmo?) [01:07] btw.: \sh you did rocking work the we have the revu-server now ;) [01:08] <\sh> sistpoty: i didn't have anything to do with it :) thank siretart and yourself :) [01:08] sistpoty: thanks === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] <\sh> sistpoty: and thanks to ubuntu + canonical :) [01:16] . \sh full ack! [01:34] lamont: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/p/pysol-sound-server/3.00-2ubunut1/pysol-sound-server_3.00-2ubunut1_20050905-2305-i386-failed.gz [01:34] lamont: can you make s.th. about this? [01:34] s.th? [01:35] looks like a buildd-issue to me... \sh wrote about half an hour ago [01:35] yep [01:36] tseng, where did the n-m upload go ? [01:36] ogra: i dont know [01:36] ogra: NEW? === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [01:36] lamont: thank you [01:36] ouch [01:36] sistpoty: and automatically retried [01:36] or should be [01:36] ogra: i dont think we had the vpn stuff before [01:36] ah... ok, didn't know this [01:36] ogra: but my mail server is dead [01:36] what vpn stuff ? [01:36] ogra: network-manager-vpnc [01:37] i thought that was a separate package ? [01:37] is it? [01:37] tseng: that's what j^ said anyway [01:37] anyway [01:37] my mail server is dead [01:37] and i wouldnt have gotten mail anyway [01:37] i just signed it === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] tseng, we're talking about this one, yes ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=514 [01:42] ogra: maybe ?upid=541? [01:42] sistpoty, nope [01:43] we talked about n-m ... [01:43] ok, i got this wrong... thought you were talking about n-m-vpnc [01:43] sorry === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [01:44] thats what i'm trying to find out ;) [01:44] hehe [01:44] *i* talked about n-m [01:47] ogra: can someone tell us what happened? [01:47] tseng, we talked about different packages ? [01:48] ogra: eh, n-m [01:48] hmm... [01:48] ogra: is not on breezy-changes [01:48] nope [01:48] i uploaded it [01:48] hmm [01:48] so now what [01:48] wild elmo poking ? ... === tseng pokes elmo wildly [01:49] heh [01:49] it can wait [01:49] yup [01:49] <\sh> bddebian: pingeling [01:49] its just that jdub runs around and tells people to try out n-m :) [01:50] <\sh> bddebian: why didn't u put the diff from debian as patch into tapiir? [01:52] is there a list of packages that still need to move to libcairo2? [01:52] apt-cache rdepends libcairo1 [01:52] ta [01:56] <\sh> argl [01:57] <\sh> ugly [01:57] <\sh> very ugly [01:57] <\sh> # Generate the makefile, if it is not there [01:58] <\sh> in debian/rules clean target [01:58] *shudder* [01:59] <\sh> yeah [01:59] <\sh> and I'm to lazy to install all build-deps on my breezy production system [02:00] <\sh> so I have to fix this [02:00] yup [02:00] isnt it just running configure ? [02:01] <\sh> yes...but it checks against some -dev packages [02:01] <\sh> or headers better to say [02:01] <\sh> which are not on my breezy system, only in pbuilder [02:01] <\sh> but debuild -S calls debian/rules clean and then [02:02] put it either in a separate configure-stamp target and call that from the build target or put it directly in the build target [02:03] <\sh> that's what I did now.. [02:03] <\sh> the configure-stamp target was called by debian/rules configure which is called by debian/clean target...ugly as I said.and calling automake magic orgy [02:03] ugh [02:05] <\sh> fixed [02:05] <\sh> build uploaded [02:05] \sh: Huh, sorry? [02:06] <\sh> bddebian: Andreas Jochens patch for tapiir ;) put that into a patch file in debian/patches [02:08] \sh: Is that new? I didn't see a patch on tapiir before?? [02:08] <\sh> http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/tapiir/tapiir-0.7.1-7ubuntu1.debdiff [02:08] <\sh> it's yours [02:08] <\sh> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=297967 [02:08] <\sh> u refered in the changelog to it ,-) === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] Oh, tapiir, I think I got that patch from BTS. What should I have done differently? === bddebian is confused [02:11] <\sh> bddebian: take the diff and put it into debian/patches and patch the source from inside the debian/rules and dch -v -D breezy --closes [02:11] <\sh> and then take the debdiff after debuild -S [02:12] <\sh> and while u are doing the debuild -S you could have seen another nastyness ;) [02:13] \sh: I keep getting conflicting info on that. See savant vs quickplot. [02:13] bddebian, doing it in debian/patches is more elegant :) [02:14] indeed it works both ways :) [02:15] <\sh> the thing is reviewing a debdiff is much more difficult then reviewing as well the patches in separate files [02:16] OK, I will fix [02:16] <\sh> well...it's funny when u have a g++ ftbfs in a big sourcecode, and unpack the orig.tar.gz fix the problem somehow, but when u apply the patch inside debian/rules it doesn't apply properly because someone fixed something else in the diff.gz [02:16] <\sh> the mixing up is the problem [02:16] <\sh> bddebian: it's fixed ;) [02:17] Oh, sorry [02:17] <\sh> bddebian: forget it :) === bddebian is lame :-( [02:24] <\sh> no you're not [02:24] nope [02:25] bddebian, your name sticks on 15 uploads today... how could you be lame ? [02:25] crap [02:25] who package wxgtk? [02:25] I have a question about that [02:26] hub, doko ? [02:26] doko: you here? [02:26] ogra: Only after \sh fixed them :-) [02:26] at least he communicates with the debian tem/dev doing it [02:26] s/tem/team [02:26] looks like hugin does not like the locale en_CA.UTF-8 [02:27] but in en_CA it works [02:27] and I suspect it is a wx problem [02:27] bddebian, nope... the ones he fixed carry his name ;) [02:27] Oh, and rebuilds don't count ;-P [02:27] hub, move to gb as a workaround ? [02:27] or us ? [02:28] <\sh> bddebian: you tested the packages..and this is your work [02:28] <\sh> bddebian: when I fix something or test something I'm responsible [02:28] <\sh> bddebian: so all packages you tested, and which have your name you're responsible [02:29] <\sh> bddebian: but I sign it with my key, until you're a motu...hope that u have upload rights soon [02:30] I don't think I want them ;-P [02:30] <\sh> bddebian: u don't have a choice, friend [02:30] heh [02:30] <\sh> I'm tired to do all your uploads ,-) [02:30] <\sh> well..actually it's 2:31 GMT+2 so I know why I'm tired ,-) [02:31] bddebian: when i have them before you you can ping me when you want something uploaded ;) [02:31] ogra: en_CA works [02:31] ogra: the problem is that I'm packaging the beast:-) === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] ogra: better move to fr_QC [02:31] ;-) [02:32] slomo: :-) [02:32] hub, depends... for me that wouldnt be a good move, my franch sucks :) [02:32] french even (you see ? ) [02:32] <\sh> hehe [02:32] fr_QC does not exist:-) [02:32] heh [02:32] <\sh> fr_QC == Quebec French? ,-) [02:33] shit, wiliki still depends gauche-gdbm wtf :-( [02:33] fr_QC would be a good PR to release just before UBZ [02:33] <\sh> bddebian: it build here...what is it? [02:34] <\sh> install-dep or build-dep? [02:34] \sh: It built successfully but on apt-get install it depends gauche-gdbm and there is no candidate :-( [02:34] <\sh> so install dep [02:34] ?? [02:35] <\sh> build-dep == dependency needed for building...and install-dep needed for installing ,-) === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] <\sh> bddebian: so gauche is broke [02:36] <\sh> n [02:36] \sh: Aye. Oh, I though you were saying install the dep. Sorry. [02:36] <\sh> Package: gauche [02:36] <\sh> Binary: gauche-doc, gauche, gauche-dev, gauche-gdbm === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] Typically I just say dep with an install-dep and build-dep specifically when it build-deps ;-) [02:37] <\sh> yes [02:37] <\sh> gauche is broken [02:37] bah scheme ... === bmonty|NickTaken [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] <\sh> checking it [02:38] i had scheme in my first semester... and teached it as "hiwi" for 3 semesters ;) (but still don't have a clue bout it) [02:39] i had to packag squeak for ubuntu recently... [02:39] no fun... [02:39] <\sh> first I have to wait for savant [02:39] :-) [02:40] <\sh> I WANT AN LINKSYS WRT54G [02:40] i have one... :) === bddebian has one [02:40] <\sh> so I can build on the nc6000 via ssh from the r200 === ubojan [n=ubojan@195.252.88.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] <\sh> bah [02:40] <\sh> next month [02:41] <\sh> I will try to get the wrt54GS ,-) [02:41] WRT54Gs are real cheap now :) [02:41] <\sh> in saturn/mediamarkt in germany they made a special the last month wrt54g for 39,- eur or something [02:42] have you ever looked at newegg.com? [02:42] not sure what they would charge to ship to Germany though [02:42] <\sh> no until last month I never thought about a wifi router === ubojan [n=ubojan@195.252.88.245] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:44] if you get the WRT54G check out the openwrt firmware [02:44] ok, I'm off to bed now... my gf has birthday tomorrow (actually today) so i unfortunately can't join TBMeeting... cya the day after tomorrow [02:45] <\sh> cu sistpoty :) and happy birthday to your girlfriend from MOTU :) [02:45] \sh++ [02:45] \sh+++ [02:45] <\sh> ??? [02:45] i dunno [02:45] bmonty|NickTaken: I have to install it at some point OpenWRT [02:46] hehe, I'll tell her ;) [02:46] gn8 === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-131.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] hub: yeah it has worked really well for me for almost the year I have had the router [02:47] what does it provide better? [02:47] <\sh> linux ,-) [02:47] <\sh> and 400 packages or more? [02:48] \sh: what sh said, and you can ditch the crippled interface that linksys has [02:48] <\sh> well...it supports as well a 1gb SD MMC card ,-) [02:49] <\sh> you can install apache on it with some hot stuff to share *lol* [02:49] \sh: it already runs linux [02:49] \sh: porn! [02:49] :-) [02:49] \sh: well I already have my webserver here... 2 in fact [02:49] Nice, gauche FTBFSs [02:49] <\sh> that's why it's not in the archive [02:50] Yah think? ;-P [02:50] <\sh> yes [02:50] hub: one of my favorite features is the ability to ssh to the router and make changes....just like any other linux box === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] <\sh> bddebian: u have patches for gauche? [03:00] <\sh> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I./../gc/include -g -O2 -fPIC -fomit-frame-pointer -c autoloads.c [03:00] <\sh> autoloads.c: In function 'Scm__InitAutoloads': [03:00] <\sh> autoloads.c:309: error: invalid lvalue in assignment [03:00] <\sh> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315069 === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] <\sh> bddebian: gauche is fixed ... I'll upload === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] <\sh> hmm...missed another patch *grmpf === highvolt3ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] hmm, can we resize ext3 in the installer yet? :-) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] <\sh> ok..now gauche is fixed [03:23] Nafallo, I believe so [03:23] that would be rad! then I could add lvm :-) [03:23] Nafallo, I resized a ext3 partition with the installer 2 weeks ago [03:23] i.e, breezy colony 3 [03:23] robitaille: yay! I'll try that some other day then :-) === Nafallo is impressed [03:24] <\sh> Lathiat: looks like if kdevelop3 needs some love for rebuild ;) [03:24] it also does ntfs...which is what impressed me :) [03:25] screw ntfs, I use ext3 ;-) [03:30] fun, meeting at work went moderately OK [03:30] contrary to expectations ;) [03:30] <\sh> *yawn* [03:32] ajmitch: did find any breakage in Mono recently === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] <\sh> ok..guys...I'm ready for bed :) [03:37] <\sh> bddebian: gauche is uploaded and should compile now... [03:37] <\sh> bddebian: the rest as well...check wiki page [03:38] \sh: You rock man [03:38] <\sh> bddebian: for the syncs ping elmo...greetings from motu universe [03:38] ?? [03:39] <\sh> you had 2 packages to sync from debian :) so..elmo is your man :) [03:40] Ohh. Do you know if he prefers e-mail or irc? [03:40] <\sh> try irc (-devel) first ;) [03:43] hub: was that a question or a statement? === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] ajmitch: question [03:44] no, mono is working fine for me [03:44] ajmitch: some stuff no longer works, while they did before [03:44] <\sh> bddebian: tell him what to sync [03:44] like autopano-sift [03:44] I'll report a bug to them then [03:44] <\sh> bddebian: just like this: elmo: please sync - from debian unstable please :) [03:44] bddebian: after todays lot you can rank with the master MOTUs [03:45] Yeah right :-) [03:46] bddebian: well at least they'll recognise your name at the TB meeting tomorrow [03:47] <\sh> yeah [03:47] Hey, what is that supposed to mean?? ;-P [03:47] Hmm, newer version of qmtest in Debian too [03:47] you just need TB approval for MOTU, right? [03:47] Aye [03:48] Supposedly I was going to get it last meeting but I was out of town. [03:48] so they should see that you've made some contributions [03:48] <\sh> so u will get it tomorrow ;) [03:48] and then the all-singing, all-dancing MOTU troupe can cheer for you [03:48] <\sh> or today at 20:00 UTC ,-) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] <\sh> ok..the last package of non-MOTU tested and uploaded [03:49] <\sh> now I'm done [03:49] ajmitch: Heh === ajmitch needs some cheerleaders tomorrow [03:49] \sh: You totally ROCK d00d [03:49] ajmitch: Why? [03:50] ajmitch: he will get enough cheerleaders :P don't worry ;) [03:50] <\sh> ok...anything else? [03:50] <\sh> anymore sponsorship? ,-) [03:50] bddebian: going for main upload [03:50] \sh: Bug fixing? ;-P [03:50] ajmitch: Rockin' d00d [03:50] to join the illustrious ranks of ogra, dholbach, tseng & \sh ;) [03:51] <\sh> lol [03:51] <\sh> the main stuff I uploaded u can count on one hand ,-) [03:51] \sh: more than me :) [03:51] <\sh> ajmitch: and for xterm it was after UVF ,-) [03:51] you've probably done 10x more universe uploads, too [03:51] heh [03:52] <\sh> aye... [03:52] mdz didn't like it, did he? [03:53] <\sh> ajmitch: I was ok with daniels...so i didn't think of it...my fault [03:53] <\sh> ok one more cigarette [03:53] lol [03:53] Heh, aye good idea \sh === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch got his caffiene topped up at lunchtime [03:53] so I can last another couple of hours ;) [03:54] heh [03:54] <\sh> in 3 hours I have to get up again :) and makeing breakfast for son :) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] <\sh> gnight guys :) [03:59] yeah, I think I managed about 3 hours sleep last night [03:59] from about 8pm-11pm, then up until work at 9 :) [04:00] <\sh> ok..off to bed :) cu during the day :) [04:00] gnight \sh, thanks again [04:00] bddebian: are you going to move pyxine to the morgue candidates? [04:02] bmonty: Aye, I should [04:02] looks like there are several packages in the NOBODY list that could be moved out also since they are already categorized elsewhere [04:03] certainly [04:03] a couple of which I'm working on === ajmitch doesn't get nearly as many uploads when he has to do intrusive fixes === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] Is there a "quick and dirty" way in Malone to see all bugs assigned to MOTU? [04:05] can't you tell it to show all bugs assigned to a user? [04:05] bddebian: of course [04:05] "Assigned to me" but I don't see one for "Assigned to X" [04:05] https://launchpad.net/malone/assigned/?name=motu [04:06] go to team MOTU, click on bugs tab [04:06] that gets you a summary [04:06] the whole list (url i just pasted) is at the bottomt [04:06] Ah, cool thanks [04:06] that's what I've been workgin from :) [04:06] you can sort by any of the columns listed there [04:07] malone has come a *long* way since I first used it [04:07] Well I was sorting by asignee and "next"ing until I got to MOTU ;-P [04:07] heh [04:07] that is a long list.... [04:07] bmonty: yep, get hacking === bmonty cracks his knuckles [04:08] I tend to assign them to myself if I'm going to work on them [04:08] Heh [04:08] possibly not the best thing, because followups don't go to universe-bugs [04:08] What do we do about package X missing in Hoary type bugs? [04:08] bddebian: can't do a thing [04:08] we're certainly not going to push them into hoary-updates this late into breezy :) [04:09] So reject them, leave them as new, what? [04:09] reject [04:09] ajmitch: can't you just add a comment to say that you are working it? [04:09] no point leaving such bugs as new [04:09] bmonty: yeah, I can [04:09] which I'll probably do === ajmitch will fix the remaining bugs on his assigned list first [04:10] is there a Malone "best practices" page in the wiki? [04:10] https://launchpad.net/malone/assigned/?name=ajmitch [04:10] not yet, want to write one? [04:11] I would, but I doubt I would get it right :) [04:11] or we could discuss it at the MOTU meeting [04:11] Lathiat: got that vegastrike amd64 FTBFS patch? I've been searching for it, and irc logs say he emailed it to you === ajmitch notes quake2 is still pendingupload because the buildd's haven't processed it yet [04:13] Yeah, the buildds seem to be quite behind. Many of the packages \sh threw up don't show up yet [04:13] bddebian: please, don't reject bazaar bugs! [04:14] ajmitch: Too late [04:14] I found this out after the fact [04:14] bazaar is an canonical product that uses malone [04:14] you can't un-reject? [04:14] Dunno [04:14] But bazaar is main [04:14] doesn't matter [04:14] I posted them on bugzilla [04:14] bazaar as *upstream* is using malone [04:15] I didn't reject the upstream bugs [04:15] the MOTUs aren't the sole user of malone [04:15] bddebian: you reassigned them all to MOTU as well? [04:16] ajmitch: Yes, they were not assigned [04:16] ajmitch: See why I don't trust myself :-) [04:16] bddebian: *please* don't assign such bugs to MOTU :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] :'-( [04:17] assigning a bug is usually an indication that we're responsible & willing to fix it [04:17] and 'accepted' generally means that someone is working on it as we speak [04:18] What did I accept? [04:18] these things are more accepted policy rather than hard technical reasons [04:18] https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/511 [04:19] bddebian: I'll add some stuff about this to the MOTU meeting agenda [04:19] ajmitch: Thanks, good idea [04:19] so we can sort it out as a group rather than me leading you astray ;) === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-56-52.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] when is the next meet BTW? [04:24] wed 7 Sept, 2200UTC [04:24] so Real Soon Now [04:24] TB or MOTU? [04:24] TB is tomorrow :-) [04:25] Hmm, I only see buildlog for i386 for wiliki === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch needs some other people to add topics to the meeting agenda, again === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] ajmitch: don't you just LOVE organizing meetings! [04:37] bmonty: I'm not organising it, just encouraging people to participate ;) [04:37] any guidance on how to handle unmetdeps bugs in malone? [04:37] bmonty: fix them? [04:37] if they were fixed by a recent upload, close them with that as a reason [04:38] heh...no should I just mark it "PendingUpload" and throw the debdiff on the wiki === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] bmonty: good idea, put the debdiff url in the status field [04:38] so the bug & debdiff are in the same place.. [04:38] using a bug tracker is better than a wiki for this [04:39] makes sense...I'm going to start an MOTUMaloneUsage wiki page [04:39] bmonty: and I've added that as a meeting topic [04:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMaloneUsage [04:46] yep, added in another paragraph :) [04:46] bmonty: nice === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:50] ajmitch: status field or add a comment? [04:50] bmonty: well the status field doesn't show until you edit it [04:50] which is a pain [04:50] bddebian: any other nuggets of wisdom to add....you've been working with Malone all day (judging from my inbox) [04:50] bddebian: maybe sync requests could be set to PendingUpload [04:51] ajmitch: yeah, that is why I think it should be the comment field :) [04:51] bmonty: status field is specific to the task, and is more of a scratch area [04:51] malone has this bug/task separation [04:51] ajmitch: maybe it needs a table to define each status for common MOTU tasks [04:52] bmonty: good idea [04:52] ajmitch: I thought about that but since it wasn't truly sitting on the buildd, I wasn't sure if that was valid? :-) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] bddebian: pendingupload means there's a fix ready for upload [04:53] (at least that's the common usage) === womble [n=mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] bmonty: 1846 is still New, not Accepted? [04:54] bmonty: and for the 10th time, I've got bochs as needing sync on the unmet deps page ;) [04:54] ajmitch: OK. I guess my concern was just seeing if someone would see it. :-) [04:55] bddebian: it's far easier to search for bugs marked as pending upload when a MOTU is bored & has bandwidth to burn [04:55] 1846 is still in new, and can we put bochs in the needs sync category at the bottom of the page? [04:55] ajmitch: did you find the problem with sb16ctrl not getting copied? [04:55] bmonty: no, but 2.2 works [04:56] ajmitch: OK, fair enough === ajmitch would rather sync a package like bochs [04:56] even though it breaks UVF< it is justified [04:57] it builds on my machine but dies when it runs dhinstall...I agree that it is probably easier to sync the package === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] are we changing the bug status to accepted when someone starts working on it? [05:04] bmonty: yes, imho === ajmitch should write that in the Bug assignment section on the page [05:06] check out what I just added [05:08] ok [05:08] looks good [05:09] nah, still needs lots of work :) [05:09] just a prototype [05:09] yeah, but it's a good start [05:09] gives us something to talk about at the meeting [05:10] added to meeting agenda :) [05:10] meeting is on this chan, right? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] bmonty: No, #ubuntu-meeting [05:12] thanks [05:14] ajmitch: Did you tell me that ezmlm was dropped in Debian? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@adsl-68-95-228-17.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] bddebian: dropped long time ago [05:18] ajmitch: Thanks bro [05:18] ezmlm-idx is supposedly the modern replacement, but not in debian [05:20] what the heck i just slept and we now have a ton of gstreamer updates :) [05:21] ever seen this: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [05:21] this is on a fresh breezy install [05:21] I saw someone with that in here recently but I don't recall who. === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] hey jsgotangco [05:22] what's up? [05:22] hey [05:22] is this a conflict with autoconf and gcc 4.0?? [05:22] oh im just updating one box [05:23] i finished colony 4 test last night === ajmitch is just doing the dist-upgrade on the laptop [05:23] good thing i got to rsync it just before Kamion announced it [05:23] obviously wireless is still working nicely, which is great :) [05:23] seems i still got the same problems === ajmitch used to get very poor reception in his room, works much better now [05:24] not to mention we actually broke the build (ubuntu-docs, ubuntu-quickguide) [05:24] yeah [05:24] oops ;) [05:24] I saw ogra complainign to jbailey about that [05:25] well its not jbailey's fault either, he was not that familiar with how it was done before (so do i) [05:25] but then i guess he didnt see the seeds [05:26] aaaccckk, too many wikipages... :-) [05:26] bddebian: congratulations, you got a package uploaded to main ;)\ [05:26] I did???? [05:26] yep [05:26] Uh oh === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] Did I screw something up again? [05:27] pyorbit has binaries in both main & universe [05:27] no, you did fine [05:27] phew [05:27] it was just a rebuild [05:27] you'd get in trouble if you broke UVF in main before preview freeze [05:27] Do they actually work? :-) [05:28] s/freeze/release/ [05:28] as it is, you might get yelled at a little [05:28] Great [05:28] since main upload policy at the moment is get approval before uploads [05:28] Not even an MOTU yet and I'm going to be in trouble.. :'-( [05:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreviewFreeze [05:29] act innocent ;) [05:29] Fuuuck === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] plead your case before the high court^W^WTechnical Board [05:30] I am innocent (well stupid anyway) [05:30] "Acts of God".....oops :) [05:30] lol [05:30] heh, it's excusable.. it just happened that you got \sh uploading [05:30] who can upload to main [05:31] err why is that both binaries are in 2 repos? [05:31] jsgotangco: hm? it got seeded into one, I'd say === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-123.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] I only noticed because my laptop was fetching python2.4-pyorbit [05:32] and the laptop has very little from universe on it so far === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] bddebian: even better, the package is in the desktop seed ;) [05:33] ajmitch: are you still working on audacity? [05:33] bmonty: uh, I still use it :) [05:33] I don't have an audacity bug assigned to me [05:34] is there something on the wiki that I was meant to take care of? [05:34] no, I'm working on some of the bugs filed against it [05:35] bmonty: ok, so it's still in universe.. [05:35] at least as far as Malone is concerned [05:36] ah, that was by my name for unmet deps at 1 point, I see === bddebian goes into hiding [05:36] sorry man, I guess I need to be more specific with my questions === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] I'm looking at an audacity bug (#1523) and I noticed you have audacity on unmetdeps...are you done working on the package? [05:38] are you guys getting highvoltage joining/leaving every 30 seconds? [05:40] bmonty: Yes, and it happens often :-( === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slacker [n=jeremy@12-219-158-82.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slacker [n=jeremy@12-219-158-82.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] goodnight everyone [05:52] Gnight bmonty, good stuff :-) [05:54] night bmonty [05:57] ajmitch: You fixed spplus? [05:58] bddebian: nope, I'm still at work [05:58] Oh. Is it your intention to fix it? [05:58] of course [05:59] OK :-) === ajmitch wonders how pyorbit slipped onto \sh's list [06:00] since a rebuild could not cause one of the binaries to be installable [06:00] ajmitch: That was my fault [06:00] I know, but he didn't check :) [06:00] so he'll get a fair share of blame :) === ajmitch will have to write some scripts to check for packages in main;) [06:03] hook scripts into dput, tweak them right, and it won't let you upload when you're not meant to :) [06:04] I thought python-bonobo was fixed? [06:06] I don't see a python-bonobo in the archive? [06:06] Hmm, I didn't look but I thought someone said that. python-pcgi still deps on it [06:07] python-bobo [06:07] which is also missing [06:07] So fix it. ;-P [06:07] python-bobo isn't in sarge, etch, or sid [06:08] hi [06:08] last debian upload was 2001 [06:08] Heya chillywilly [06:08] hey [06:08] python-pcgi was removed from sid last week [06:08] Heh, great [06:08] last debian upload of it was also 2001 [06:08] Any reason? [06:08] Ahh, I'll add to morgue candidates then [06:09] last upstream release, 1999 ;) [06:11] bddebian: so how could python-pcgi install fine for you & make it onto your list? [06:11] ajmitch: It probably didn't. There were a couple that I put on there without testing the actual deps. [06:11] :-( [06:12] ouch [06:12] don't do that :) [06:12] that's why my build & upload of the list wasn't moving fast :) [06:12] I'm a "work in progress" :-( [06:13] haha [06:15] Hmm, should I ask for a sync of gabber 1.9 from experimental? ;-P [06:15] \sh is the jabber expert ;) [06:17] I wonder why savant isn't in the archive yet??? [06:18] because it doesn't want to be [06:19] Bah [06:20] uh oh, bddebian getting cornered by the angry italian :) [06:20] Aye :-( [06:21] s/severest/sincerest/ [06:21] No, severest ;-P [06:22] Holy crap, I think the unmetdep list just doubled... :-( [06:22] great! [06:22] more fun for us [06:23] Not for me. After today I think I'm going to get fired. ;-) [06:23] nah [06:24] testing re-opening of #318 for you.. [06:24] I'm doing 269 [06:25] worked for me [06:25] now marking as upstream is fun [06:25] 269 still shows upstream for me [06:25] 318 didn't have upstream tag [06:27] I'm sure you'll dig yourself out of the hole soon ;) [06:41] Well I'm going to bed before I get in any more trouble :-) [06:41] Gnight folks [06:41] night bddebian [06:41] good night bddebian [06:41] thanks for your good work today :) [06:42] Hehe, yeah.. ;-) [06:42] it was good, bar a few minor issues [06:42] Thx, catch ya tomorrow [06:42] Later tritium === ohphracku [n=zombie@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ohphracku [n=zombie@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-118-077.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0371.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] morning [08:32] hi ivoks [08:32] ajmitch: hi :) [08:32] i have a job for you, an easy one :) [08:32] i fixed right click on xine-ui [08:33] i need someone to upload it :) [08:33] and review it first, of course :) [08:33] or i should just upload to revu? === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-069-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hmmmm [n=Hmmmm@221.135.51.18] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn227-157.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] good morning [09:11] salut dholbach, thanks for the g-s latest crack === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] g-s? [09:11] dholbach, gnome-screesaver [09:11] morning dholbach! [09:11] ahhh ok :) [09:12] morning andrew, morning corey [09:12] how are you today? === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] a bit tired still, but i guess it'll be a charming day :) [09:12] how are you? [09:12] hi [09:13] dholbach: could you check out xine-ui on revu === ajmitch is ok [09:13] i fixed right click crash [09:13] ivoks: will do later [09:13] dholbach: ok [09:13] surprisingly good considering how little sleep I had last night ;) [09:13] ivoks: but i will take care of it [09:13] ajmitch: how long did you sleep? [09:13] from about 8pm-11pm [09:14] then MOTUing all the way to work === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] :) === ajmitch wasn't terribly productive, but it was fun [09:14] ouch :) [09:14] heh [09:15] a few bugs squashed [09:15] a couple of things uploaded [09:16] damnit, im getting liek 8 emails to avahi@fd.o about paypal or email every 12 horus [09:16] its gone nuts [09:16] dholbach: feel free to add some info to MOTUMaloneUsage that bmonty & myself started :) [09:16] dholbach: it's also on the meeting agenda [09:16] oh cool [09:17] you guys ROCK [09:17] heh [09:18] morning folks [09:18] hey ivoks, siretart :) [09:18] ? :) [09:18] "full house" this morning [09:19] hey dholbach didn't see you :) [09:19] :) [09:19] hi siretart [09:19] huhu dholbach, hi ajmitch! :) [09:19] ok i did one mistake [09:19] i assigned bug to me :) [09:19] and morning * :) [09:19] ivoks: that's no mistake :) [09:19] well, won't do that again :) [09:19] dholbach: so you may have noticed that bddebian attacked malone today [09:20] i saw it - he's incredible [09:20] and got a few rebuilds up [09:20] Universe bugs should be left assigned to the MOTU group, so that followups go to universe-bugs [09:20] ivoks: yes [09:20] ok [09:20] just in case something breaks: I won't be available next week, I'm on holydays with my GF [09:20] i know now [09:20] otherwise additional comments don't go to the list [09:20] I had been doing it that I'd assign bugs to myself [09:20] if something breaks on revu, \sh, sistpoty and slomo have access to tiber, and could possibly fix things.. [09:20] but I think the best way is to mark the bug as Accepted, put in a comment [09:21] ok [09:21] if you don't mind the traffic on universe-bugs [09:21] i don't care [09:21] we can argue about it at the MOTU meeting :) [09:21] i'm not on that list :> [09:21] malone has come a *long* way since we first saw it :) [09:21] yeah.. [09:21] .it's usable [09:22] you can subscribe to the digest [09:22] :) [09:23] ivoks: err, I think you forgot to adapt your dput config [09:23] ivoks: the upload host has changed for revu [09:24] so at the meeting we need an update on transitions, FTBFS, and other general work necessary before breezy release [09:24] 5 weeks & counting! [09:24] siretart: i know [09:24] siretart: i did another upload [09:24] okay. I got some emails, no problem === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] khm... [09:28] no sound :) [09:29] lol nxesd :) [09:33] ajmitch, how do these releases keep sneaking up on us [09:33] with great cunning and stealth apparently [09:33] Burgundavia: they hide under the bed [09:33] and jump out when we least expect them [09:34] it seems that UDU was only yesterday [09:34] grr, I thought I had cleaned under there [09:34] when we had months to get things in order [09:34] heh [09:34] I remember not long ago talking about hoary+1, as if is was a long time away [09:34] some of the things discussed in UDU just went in another route [09:35] maybe you should work on debian ;p [09:35] then you'll have plenty of time :) [09:35] lol [09:35] Lathiat: good idea, I think I might do that tonight :) [09:35] and ask for a sync tomorrow :) [09:35] heh === Burgundavia figures etch will release when protestors show up outside the release teams door chanting "We want etch" [09:37] :) [09:37] Burgundavia: late 2007, perhaps? [09:38] wee im now subscribed to the whole wiki [09:38] maybe we should have a motu betting pool on when etch releases [09:38] let the spamming begin [09:38] jsgotangco: sick man [09:38] ajmitch, that might be bad pr [09:38] LookLikeThis? [09:38] Burgundavia: haha [09:38] Burgundavia: of course :) === Burgundavia misses the daily flood of bugzilla === ivoks misses daily flood of ubuntu-users :) [09:39] or not? :) [09:39] bugzilla was worse [09:40] urrkk i'll pass on bugzilla === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks urges MOTUs to review xine-ui and upload it... it's a bugfix [09:50] hi guys [09:50] can anyone explain me, why the font rendering is totaly different to the older versions of ubuntu? === herzi [n=herzi@d002089.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] mitsuhiko: what two versions are you comparing? [10:25] hoary and breezy if i may guess === Hmmmm [n=Hmmmm@221.135.51.18] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1452.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] ivoks: looking at 0.99.4 now. [10:39] spacey: jep [10:39] crimsun: hoary and breezy compared [10:39] the hinting seems identical on my laptop [10:39] hinting=medium(grayscale) and 96dpi [10:39] here on my hoary notebook: http://www.active-4.com/trash/iluvmygnome.png [10:40] if I apply mein fontconfig to the breezy machine there is no visible change :( [10:44] mitsuhiko, that happened to me at first too. have you restarted since the upgrade? [10:44] niran: jep [10:46] mitsuhiko, try dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base [10:46] then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [10:46] then restart X [10:46] ok. i'll try [10:49] niran: thx guy [10:49] perfect. it works [10:49] you're welcome [10:51] crimsun: hi [10:51] crimsun: xine-ui? === kronoss [n=kronoss@FW-7-250.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] art.ubuntu.com :) [10:59] ivoks: yes. pbuilding now. [11:00] crimsun: why? [11:00] crimsun: shouldn't we wait for debian first? [11:00] is there a package in incoming? === astharot [n=whitehat@pdpc/supporter/monthly-silver/astharot] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] ? [11:03] I don't see a Debian package yet [11:03] crimsun: right, so we don't merge [11:03] we just do bugfixes [11:04] if we do our package, version 0.99.4-0ubuntu1 [11:04] we will have problems merging debian's 0.99.4-0 === kronoss [n=kronoss@FW-7-250.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntulog [n=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | First priority: FIX REMAINING TRANSITIONS! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Transitions === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by siretart at Mon Aug 29 10:28:10 2005 === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-069-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] crimsun: what is your current keyid? === NoSense [n=kronoss@FW-7-250.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1694.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] hm [01:24] do i need this? 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[02:42] ROCK [02:42] super :) [02:44] <\sh> grmpf [02:44] <\sh> metacity popup crash [02:45] good morning all! [02:46] <\sh> hey mbreit [02:46] <\sh> I think I learn zulu now [02:46] and i think i will clean up the unmet deps nobody list now.... and remove all the packages which are already in someone's love-list [02:50] dholbach: yeah... i have a working local faad2 now :) thanks to the mplayer guys who fixed faad2 ;) [02:50] WOW [02:51] i don't know what their code changes actually do... but it works ;) hmm... i really need to get into dsp and audio compression ;) [02:51] yeah.... i can't wait to see the go-open videos with sound ;) [02:52] yeah, go open with mpeg4 and aac [02:52] the power of free and open formats [02:54] j^: free and open formats? you don't mean aac and mpeg4, do you? ;) [02:55] slomo i am just refering the the joke they make at go-open by using mpeg4 and aac [02:56] j^: ah ok... i wonder who decided to use these formats... [02:56] slomo im more involved with theora http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ [02:57] mbreit: do you have the go open videos on your harddisk? i need someone on amd64 to test the changes ;) [02:58] i have them on my laptop ;) [02:58] mbreit: copy one to your desktop ;) [02:59] slomo: i will do that when i finished the unmet deps cleanup [02:59] ok === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] <\sh> I'm working also on unmet deps...some things which ftbfs in the past ,-) [03:02] \sh: but i hope you don't work on the wiki page! [03:02] <\sh> no [03:02] <\sh> not now... [03:02] okay [03:04] bbl === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] \sh: i am finished with the unmet deps page, so you can edit it if you want to [03:13] <\sh> hehe.. [03:14] j^: your repos fixed yet? === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] hi [03:24] Lathiat should be ok now [03:26] remind me of the url ? [03:26] Lathiat http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] Heya [03:33] <\sh> hey bddebian [03:34] Heya \sh, thanks for getting me in trouble.. ;-P [03:34] You are supposed to watch out for my dumb ass.. :-) [03:35] <\sh> bddebian: no;) [03:35] bddebian: you're not in trouble :0 [03:35] <\sh> bddebian: whats up? [03:35] Well apparently pyorbit went into main? [03:36] <\sh> ?????????????????????? [03:36] Or maybe it was pysol-sound-server, I don't remember, it was late last night :-( [03:36] <\sh> pyorbit yes [03:37] <\sh> damn [03:37] <\sh> who gave u a hard time? [03:37] siretart: 0xC88ABDA3 [03:38] <\sh> bddebian: well...what can I say...as: Congrats for your first main upload [03:38] <\sh> damn...why is it happening to me all the time [03:39] \sh: I'd be happy except that it still has unmet deps.. :-( :-) [03:39] <\sh> gauche? [03:39] \sh: No one has really given me shit yet exept for ajmitch === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] <\sh> bddebian: which unmet deps? [03:40] \sh: Dunno, that is what ajmitch said. I haven't checked it yet [03:40] <\sh> wooot....kwave is compiling [03:41] \sh: BTW, gabber just looks like some minor C build issues. I'll take a look if I get sec [03:41] <\sh> now I have to merge it from debian to ubuntu *grmpf* [03:44] \sh: Merge what? [03:44] kwave? [03:44] <\sh> yep...debian version is working [03:44] Coolio [03:46] We need elmo to get on MOTUToSync :-) [03:47] if a MOTU has free time, maybe can he reviews my debdiffs for gltransition http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/MOTUGLUTransition/, thanks ! [03:55] <\sh> ok...last rebuild of kwave with correct patches === bddebian wonders what to work on today... === Gervy [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] pef: Do you have any idea of how many transitions there still are? === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] <\sh> brb [04:07] bddebian: just running again the command provided ? [04:09] pef: I suppose. I was just about to try it again === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervy is now known as Gervystar [04:15] 1) Bugs 2) Transitions 3) UnmetDeps Somone give me a number :-) [04:16] {1,2,3} ;) [04:17] Heh, touche :-) === lamont__ [n=lamont@15.238.5.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] pef: So why aren't you fixing those "doesn't compile" packages? ;-) [04:32] bddebian: I tried, but not skilled enough :/ and not sure to make clean work [04:32] Bah, that doesn't stop me.. ;-) [04:33] Damnit, why isn't savant in the archive?? It built on the buildds???? [04:44] Hah, stellarium has gcc4 issues.. :'-( [04:45] bddebian: should be fixed in 0.6.2-3 (some in 0.6.2-2) [04:46] mbreit: So it needs a synch? [04:47] bddebian: try 0.6.2-3, and if it works, request a sync [04:47] Yes Sir ;-) [04:48] Is Debian doing the GL/GLU transitions also? === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@p5487C2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] bddebian: are my links to debdiffs on the wikipage work for you ? (having read access) [04:53] pef: Yep [04:54] ok, thanks [04:54] bddebian: are you working on a package right now ? (gl transition) [04:54] pef: I'm looking at stellarium, just for kicks :-) [04:56] bddebian: ok, so I won't work on it ;) [05:00] <\sh> ok..kwave uploaded [05:01] \sh: rockin' === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@p5487C2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] OK, stellarium -3 from Debian seems to build fine === lakin [n=lakin@rx0so-istockphoto.cg.bigpipeinc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn227-157.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] dholbach! [05:10] re :) [05:10] hey tseng :) [05:11] bddebian: libdc1394 _does_ exist... it's a _SOURCE_ package. [05:11] having said that, it's now in main [05:11] FTBFS bugs are filed against the source package, not the binaries. === lamont__ finishes ranting about https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/762 [05:13] heh [05:14] lifeless: so "launchpad" works for summoning you, eh? === lifeless offers lamont three bugs [05:15] depends on how yummy they are. [05:15] Heya dholbach [05:15] hey bddebian :) === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] lamont__: Hmm, weird I couldn't find the binary either. But as usual I am smoking crack [05:18] <\sh> so how to handle new upstream versions to universe to fix gcc4 crap? [05:18] <\sh> and to get dependent apps running again? [05:19] \sh: Upstream being Debian or upstream? :-) [05:19] <\sh> debian [05:19] if it fixes stuff and has not a BIG BIG changelog with millions of new stuff, they're ok [05:19] and if you test-built and test-run it :) [05:19] \sh: I have been requesting syncs where the change isn't too big and it builds clean :-) [05:20] stellarium is a good example :-) [05:20] <\sh> it would be nice, if I could sync only [05:20] bddebian: if the package is FTBFS, there might not _be_ a binary.... [05:20] \sh, why cant you ? [05:20] lamont__: Aye but I just tried libdc1394-13 and it does install?? Werid. [05:21] apt-cache showsrc libdc1394 [05:21] Uhm, weird even :-) === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] Package: libdc1394 [05:21] Binary: libdc1394-13-dev, libdc1394-13, libdc1394-examples [05:21] <\sh> ogra: wrong build-deps [05:21] oh [05:21] admittedly, that's on hoary [05:21] <\sh> ogra: it depends on libqt3c102-mt and not on libqt3-mt-dev [05:22] <\sh> ogra: it depends on libqt3c102-mt and not on libqt3-mt[-dev] [05:22] <\sh> ogra: but package compiled on breezy and works :) [05:22] \sh, then you have to sync manually i fear... [05:22] <\sh> ogra: already done [05:22] yay [05:22] lamont__: Aye, I saw those. Again, I don't know what I was thinking/doing.. SOrry [05:22] <\sh> only source upload is missing...and this I fear ;) [05:23] <\sh> anyways..source uploading... [05:23] bddebian: np [05:24] for starters, it's an old bug... [05:24] although I haven't looked to see if it's actually fixed in current breezy.... [05:25] :-) === slomo [n=slomo@p5487DD11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] <\sh> I'm tired...looks like i will take a nap before the meeting starts [05:29] Hey, the meeting isn't for 4 hours or so.. :-) [05:30] <\sh> bd-mud: sure? [05:31] <\sh> argl. [05:31] <\sh> kwave on amd64 [05:31] <\sh> again [05:31] \sh: 22 utc [05:31] <\sh> 20UTC [05:31] <\sh> motu is 22utc [05:32] <\sh> tomorrow ,-) [05:32] ah ok [05:32] yes [05:32] erm === ogra shakes head about dholbach ... [05:32] hi! does anyone know if there's any chance to get a package synced from debian before breezy is released? [05:32] were is our clalendar genius gone ? [05:33] <\sh> damn planet software [05:33] infinito: Depends on the rationale I think [05:33] You guys are confusing me. TB meeting is 20:00UTC today right?? [05:33] dholbach, i loose my confidence in the world if not even you know our dates, dont do that ;) [05:34] bd-mud: what does that means? [05:34] <\sh> ogra: *gg* [05:34] infinito: I mean it depends on why you need a sync. Is it new functionality or a bug-fix? [05:34] <\sh> ogra: berlin is a different TZ then NRW ,-) [05:34] infinito, it must make sense to sync it, it should fix somezthing serious [05:35] ogra, bm-mud: it will be new to universe [05:35] infinito, additionally it shouldnt introduce new breakage [05:35] infinito: Probably not then [05:35] <\sh> oh no...no new breakage...I have enough of breakage [05:35] and you should testbuild and test it extensively before proposing it ;) [05:35] ogra: sorry for that [05:35] dholbach, just kidding ;p [05:37] ogra, bd-mud: it's been in debian for a while, and on MOTUToSync since eraly august, but still it doesn't get synced... [05:38] infinito, we'll come to the ToSync page eventually.... if its there already, dont worry [05:39] ogra: We need elmo to get on that soon if possible. It's holding up a lot of my unmetdeps :-) [05:40] so pkgs on MOTUToSync will enter Breezy? [05:40] dholbach, do you think thats worth a topic on the TB agenda ? ^^^ [05:40] infinito, after wechecked them [05:41] infinito, very intrusive syncs that probably brak something wont ahppen [05:41] break even [05:41] ogra: our pkg is not intrusive, just a perl app [05:41] ogra: not sure, i suggest we should just make sure we request those syncs after we talked about them === jackobill [n=jackobil@modemcable159.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] ogra: that page is not a reminder for elmo, but something we can organize ourselves with [05:42] dholbach, i'd like to have one day where we just run down that list and ar done... [05:42] so we don't foget stuff [05:42] Can someone please explain the " "GLU" only transitions list " on MOTUGLUTransitions ??? [05:43] dholbach: We can synch from Debian without elmo? [05:43] i talked with elmo a few weeks ago and he told me exactly that, MOTUToSync is not enough [05:43] dholbach, so if we had a fixed date to do that together with elmo that would be cool... [05:43] bd-mud: no.. he does it semi-automatically - but we can't expect him to visit that site every now and then [05:43] infinito, nope, it isnt for elmo [05:43] Oh but you can expect us to check unmet deps? ;-P [05:44] ogra: it's better to do it every now and then - because - as you heard, it puts other stuff on hold [05:44] infinito, but its the page MOTU looks at and decides for syncs [05:45] ogra: ok, i just thought that pkgs there won't get synces before breezy, if they will, im happy :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] infinito, its a page in steady progress :) [05:45] <\sh> grmpf [05:46] <\sh> what should I do with packages which are install-depending on other packages which are not in the archives anymore [05:46] <\sh> it's a mess === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0903.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] This looks strange: , mesa-common-dev | xlibmesa-gl-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev | xlibmesa-glu-dev [05:48] funny [05:48] \sh: Welcome to my world :-) [05:48] Hello ivoks [05:48] synaptics is reverted [05:48] and it works good as never before [05:49] now it will be crapy again and we would all use psmouse driver :) [05:50] <\sh> bd-mud: hello to your world...but I'm thinking about removing those packages from archive [05:52] <\sh> anyways...taking a nap at least one hour... [05:52] <\sh> tomorrow I have to be back in my ex-house === Nafallo [i=nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] <\sh> cu later guys [05:54] ogra, bd-mud: thanks for the info and keep the good job! === Nafallo_ [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] Later \sh [05:54] infinito: I just break stuff :-) [05:55] What do I do about packages build-deping on wxwin2.4-headers? === slomo [n=slomo@p5487DD11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/MOTUGLUTransition/openmsx_0.5.2-4ubuntu-1.debdiff I don't understand why debdiff changes the last changelog entry like this :/ [05:56] bd-mud: new nick :) [05:56] Yeah, my name is mud lately :-) [06:07] bd-mud: now i feel like black sheep :) === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] bd-mud: wx2.4-headers [06:20] crimsun: Thank you [06:21] it's more correct to have libwxgtk2.4-dev as the build-dep, since it depends on wx2.4-headers [06:23] crimsun: OK, I will fix, thanks again [06:24] bd-mud: apt-get install -d wxwin2.4-headers will show you the way ;) [06:24] Ahh -d, thanks pef [06:25] bd-mud: but certainly no the beautifulest way === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=Travis_W@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] Damnit, ctsim can't find libXmu :-( [06:38] what about adding it to the build depends? [06:39] It's there, just get "Can't find -lXmu" === bd-mud still wonders if we have autotools problems [06:40] what do the build-depends say? [06:42] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), fftw3-dev, libreadline4-dev, libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev | libglu-dev, libwxgtk2.4-dev, ctn-dev, libpng12-dev, libglib1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-dev [06:42] Build-Depends-Indep: debhelper (>= 4.0.0) === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-60.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] what about libxmu-dev? [06:43] that's what gives you Xmu goodness [06:43] I'll try it, thx [06:43] de rien [06:44] dholbach: just for curiosity, are you german or french? :-= [06:44] :-) [06:45] Nafallo: german :) [06:45] what about changing the link on packages.ubuntu.com "Check for Bug Reports about.." to point to launchpad.net for packages in universe? [06:45] Nafallo: but i think it's the same as with seb - they tell him he was half-german :) [06:46] dholbach: hehe, oki :-) [06:46] dholbach: then you're half-french then ;-) === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-60.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] dholbach: and the two of you makes one german and one french :-) [06:46] hehe === Nafallo sees light === astharot [n=whitehat@pdpc/supporter/monthly-silver/astharot] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fred__ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] how longer does it take for a package announced in breezy-changes to be uploaded to the archive ? [07:02] pef: I think no more than an hour or so. Although savant built last night and still doesn't show up for me. [07:03] wow ... you guys are REALLY doing the Universe dance [07:03] WOW [07:03] :) [07:03] bddebian: thank you ! [07:04] dholbach: The Universe dance? :-) [07:05] bddebian: absolutely - you're cleaning it up [07:05] excellent! [07:05] so good to have you all around [07:05] Ah, thx === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-229.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] who will kill the latest GLTransition package ? :] === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] have to go, bye ! [07:33] <\sh_away> grmpf [07:33] <\sh_away> for amd64 the build define in g++/gcc is ARCH_X86_64? [07:34] <\sh_away> re btw ,-) [07:36] \sh: hi! just uploaded new upstream of gajim :-) [07:36] Wb \sh. Nice nap? :-) [07:37] \sh: and pinged carlos about adding it to rosetta ;-) [07:37] <\sh> Nafallo: kewl [07:37] <\sh> Nafallo: rock :) [07:37] \sh: and i'm using it now too :) on your server with the icq-t ;) do you know whether they work on the non-utf8 problems? [07:37] <\sh> slomo: it's the transports :( [07:37] \sh: yes i know ;) do you know whether the transport people are working on it :) [07:38] <\sh> slomo: yes they're working on it :) [07:39] \sh: if I lend you a whip, do you think you could make them work faster? ;-) [07:39] \sh: wonderfull :) then only pyicq-t and gajim has to mature a bit more and everything would be perfect :) [07:39] <\sh> grmpf...ARCH_X86_64 is not correct for amd64 === bddebian trying tagcoll-1.3 from Debian === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@p5487DD11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian needs an amd64 and ppc machines [08:15] i said that too [08:15] but i gave up [08:15] Why? [08:15] because they arent cheap [08:15] and i dont really need them for myself [08:15] If I get a couple, I'll be glad to give you an account. Though my electric bill is already sky-high with the 9 machines I already have. [08:15] <\sh> come on...pegasos is not really expensive [08:15] tseng: let's write a mail to pegasos to sponsor some machines for us ;) [08:16] slomo: yes. [08:16] <\sh> I tried [08:16] but i was more interested in amd64 [08:16] <\sh> but they sponsor gentoo devs :( [08:16] lame-ass [08:16] <\sh> they send out a lot to them... [08:16] <\sh> the last round it was === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] <\sh> but i don't think ppc will stay actual when apple is switching completly [08:17] \sh: don't forget cell which is some kind of ppc ;) [08:17] cell isnt for pcs [08:18] <\sh> slomo: whatever cell is [08:18] and running linux on consoles is for kids with nothing better to do [08:18] \sh: 3-core ppc multimedia cpu for the new consoles like xbox [08:19] tseng: i heard something different... afaik they will use it at least in servers but also planned workstations [08:19] <\sh> slomo: for what? windows won't run on it ;) [08:20] \sh: no idea... for ubuntu maybe ;) [08:20] i wouldnt mind a tri-core cpu :) [08:20] with HT on each core :) [08:20] mayeb two fo them :) [08:20] err, maybe two of them :) [08:21] the powerpc is now in an even smaller niche [08:21] more units, but none of the users care what processor is in their console [08:21] tseng: and afaik it's not multicore but somewhat more weird ;) one main cpu a bunch of processors similar to dsp [08:22] the cell is a crippled ppc with 8 or so dsp-like units [08:23] the ppc part is just there to drive the other units [08:23] Amaranth: yes... that's what i meant ;) [08:24] Lathiat: my main server is a quad xeon with ht [08:25] tseng: mmm [08:25] <\sh> guys...what should we do with kwiki and chinput? [08:25] you knjwo what i wreally want [08:25] an 8 way dual core opteron, with 16GB of ram :) [08:25] meh [08:25] Lathiat: now.. my linux desktop is a p3 [08:25] <\sh> oh forget chinput === Amaranth wants something pentium-m based [08:25] Lathiat: which is right now barely useable while recompressing a livecd [08:25] Amaranth: yes [08:26] sounds like kde applications... we dont need those :) [08:26] <\sh> but kwiki depends on libkwiki-perl which is not in the archives === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0839.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] <\sh> bddebian: u r good man :) [08:46] \sh: ? [08:46] <\sh> bddebian: the discussion with elmo was quite good :) stood your man :) [08:47] \sh: Yeah but knowing my luck something is going to break and I'm going to get an ass-kicking :-) [08:48] <\sh> bddebian: that's developer luck ,-) [08:48] Heh [08:48] <\sh> but you rely on your knowledge :) [08:49] Well that is even scarier ;-) [08:50] <\sh> lamont__: ping if packageX-i386 failed to compile..it's given automatically back to the buildds? [09:00] \sh: depends [09:00] on why it failed [09:01] <\sh> dependencies..but all other archs build..and libqt3-mt-dev is not wrong [09:01] <\sh> kxdocker === ajmitch crawls out of bed [09:03] <\sh> ajmitch: good morning [09:03] ajmitch: 'morning [09:03] I wasn't quite planning to sleep that long [09:04] are there plans to implement freenx? [09:04] if not, i could at least package client [09:04] <\sh> i wonder where do i and debian get libkwiki-perl [09:04] ivoks: yes [09:04] ajmitch: is there url? [09:05] ajmitch: what about xen? [09:05] <\sh> hmm...who was working on ghc6? [09:05] ivoks: probably not for breezy [09:05] \sh: sistpoty [09:05] \sh: infinity uploaded, has to bootstrap === gathers [n=gathers@c-9945e255.434-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] <\sh> ajmitch: today? [09:06] no, this was at least a week ago [09:06] ajmitch: i know xen will not be implemented, but freenx could get to breezy? didn't we have freeze? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] Heya ajmitch! [09:07] bddebian: not got into trouble yet then? :) [09:07] ajmitch: Well I'm getting into new trouble with elmo instead :-) [09:07] And I caught shit for the Malone stuff but no one has said anything about the main thing :-) [09:08] <\sh> ajmitch: my fault...didn't check if it was main :( [09:08] heh [09:08] <\sh> ok..todo: apt-cache showsrc first ,-) [09:08] I see that I'm not needed now, with the number of uploads on breezy-changes today :) [09:08] \sh: Well I should have caught it and warned you. :-( [09:08] <\sh> ajmitch: fix gch6 ,-) it depends on libgmp3 and not on libgmp3c2 [09:08] \sh: I can't, remember [09:09] yeh thats the whole massive list of packages involving haskell [09:09] since I dont' have access to the buildd like infinity has [09:09] <\sh> i could but i didn't see it on the buildds [09:09] <\sh> i think infinity is sleeping... [09:09] Isn't ghc6 still broken? [09:09] that's because he hasn't done the magic bootstrap bits yet [09:09] which he has to do manually [09:10] anyone with 5 minutes spare time? [09:10] ivoks: I have time but probably no knowledge. :-) [09:11] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=543 - fixes bug, needs review and upload [09:11] bddebian: you don't have upload right :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] <\sh> damnit [09:13] <\sh> I need Mithrandir [09:13] \sh: hi :) [09:13] <\sh> hey ivoks [09:14] <\sh> ivoks: u can upload by yourself dude ,-) [09:14] <\sh> but I'm quite annoyed [09:14] \sh: i can't [09:14] <\sh> why not? [09:15] i don't have rights... my key isn't in keyring or whitelisted or whatever it should be [09:15] <\sh> ivoks: u are approved, aren't you? [09:16] approved MOTU, yes [09:16] but limited MOTU :) [09:16] LP has some problems with sign-only keys, so i have to wait till LP is fixed [09:16] then i'll would be able to upload [09:17] <\sh> grmpf [09:17] i just got email "There are some problems with your key." [09:17] ivoks: when? [09:17] since then no info, notice, nothing... (that was in may/july) [09:17] ah ok [09:17] <\sh> ivoks: speak up at tb... [09:17] <\sh> put it on the agenda :) [09:18] slomo: shall we? [09:18] <\sh> can someone test kwave on amd64? building? i just fixed a bug and the bug occured again... [09:18] <\sh> and Mithrandir is not available === ogra [n=ogra@pD9FAB63D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] ivoks: hmm... let's do it... but you're a better english speaker so it's maybe the best you get it on the agenda and i help you :) [09:19] ogra can do it :) [09:19] what ? [09:19] \sh> can someone test kwave on amd64? building? i just fixed a bug and the bug occured again... [09:19] slomo: ok [09:19] <\sh> he will complain about kde stuff ,-) [09:20] sure [09:20] but he'll live ;) [09:20] \sh, depends how long the download of the build-deps via isdn takes... [09:20] <\sh> ogra: argl [09:20] heh [09:20] slomo: so, this is "let ivoks take the dirt" attitude :) [09:20] yup [09:20] ivoks: Why should you be special? ;-) [09:21] <\sh> I'm lost actually === ivoks never learnd english :) [09:21] learned [09:21] ivoks: nope... i'll help you, don't worry :) it's just that i'm not that fast writing in english [09:21] ivoks: what? hum... ok, then it doesn't matter who brings it on the agenda ;) [09:22] slomo: don't worry, i'll take care of it [09:22] ivoks: sorry... i thought you were a native english speaker ;) [09:22] that's in half of hour? [09:22] <\sh> yep [09:22] What exaclty does given_back mean on the buildds? [09:22] it means it was built again [09:22] in the same revision [09:22] slomo: nope, in croatia croatian is native :) [09:23] tseng: Ah, oK, thx [09:23] bddebian: it probably means that revision never built successfully anywhere due to some problem in another package [09:23] bddebian: and will happily build now given a second chance [09:24] tseng: Coolio. It was only on ia64 anyhow [09:25] ivoks: hum... ok :) [09:25] Any MOTU types looking at the transition pages? Specifically GL/GLU? [09:26] bddebian: shall i have a look at the debdiffs? [09:26] bddebian: or are they perfectly alright? [09:27] dholbach: I always prefer mine be looked over since I suck. But pef's are probably good. [09:28] see you at 20:00UTC [09:28] bddebian: MAN! the only way you suck is making yourself look bad :) you rock SO hard [09:29] opensourcegraph -> openscenegraph ;) [09:30] but that wasnt yours === ogra thinks bddebian doesnt suck in making himself look bad, actually he does it good enough to belive in it himself it seems :) [09:30] bddebian, i hope you are on the agenda today ? [09:31] ogra: No, I'm hiding :-) [09:31] boo [09:31] haha [09:31] bddebian: would you PLEASE set yourself on the agenda :) [09:31] pretty please :) [09:32] dholbach: Did I get removed? [09:32] <\sh> bddebian: u will be approved...or I will throw away the upload rights. [09:32] bddebian: ah no [09:32] I scare myself too much :-) [09:32] i take care of those uploads [09:32] why is comadreja still on MaintainerCandidates ? [09:33] now i take care of murphy, go out before the meeting [09:33] no idea [09:33] damn. I nearly forgot the meeting today.. [09:33] Can someone look at the buildlog for regina-normal for me? I can't make any sense out of it on this Windows machine. :-( [09:34] bddebian: ok [09:34] bddebian, what has this to do with the platform youre on ? [09:34] ogra: Dunno, the output looks jacked wrapped or unwrapped. It's very strange [09:35] After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied: [09:35] 774 libcppunit-dev(inst 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 ! >= wanted 1.10.2-4) kdelibs4-dev(inst 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu4 ! >= wanted 4:3.4.2-1) libboost-python-dev(inst 1.32.0+1.33.0-cvs20050727-1ubuntu1 ! >= wanted 1.33.0) libmpich1.0-dev(inst 1.2.5.3-5 ! >= wanted 1.2.7-1) [09:35] so the build-deps need tweaked [09:35] Damnit. How did it build locally OK then? [09:35] luck [09:35] Heh [09:36] same arch ? [09:36] that was i386 [09:36] All arches failed and I built it on i386 [09:36] weird === robitaille [n=robitail@p235-083.public.uvic.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:36] do you have debian sources in your pbuilder ? [09:36] See why I don't want MOTU :-) [09:36] ogra: Nope [09:36] maybe you pulled in the build-deps from sid when you tested sid's regina-normal [09:37] ajmitch: How would I have done that? [09:37] luck ;) [09:37] I just wget the .dsc and .gz files [09:37] ah [09:37] Then dpkg-source -x === ajmitch just does apt-get source in his sid chroot [09:37] Heh [09:37] bind mount is good for that [09:38] \sh: can you figure out why the ppc and ia64 buildds do not want to install python-gnome2-extras? [09:39] Damn, elmo is gonna have my hide [09:40] Nafallo: installable here on ppc ;) === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] slomo: then go the the dc and try ;-) [09:41] Nafallo: dc? [09:41] slomo: datacenter [09:41] Nafallo: lol [09:42] <\sh> Nafallo: check the archives ,-) [09:42] <\sh> I'm fighting with kwave... [09:42] bddebian: why would elmo kill you? [09:42] \sh: done, nothing wrong what I can see :-P [09:42] \sh: context btw ;-): http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gajim/0.8.2-0ubuntu1/gajim_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_20050906-1927-powerpc-failed.gz [09:43] ajmitch: Because I have been asking for a ton of syncs and regina-normal has now failed. :-( [09:43] <\sh> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-gnome2-extras-dev: Depends: python-gnome2-extras (= 2.11.4-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed [09:43] <\sh> E: Broken packages [09:44] and why not? :-) [09:44] <\sh> old package [09:44] old? [09:44] Ack, I need a smoke before the meeting [09:44] bddebian: that's no problem [09:45] \sh: why do you say that? :-) [09:46] <\sh> Nafallo: or it's not build at all [09:46] \sh: it's in the archive for all three arches. [09:46] <\sh> Nafallo: then ask lamont or infinity :) [09:47] <\sh> there must be a bug [09:47] lamont: ping :-) [09:47] \sh: it either conflicts with something, or was waiting for the gnome-cycling to happen. [09:47] since python-gnome2-extras-dev is now installable by itself [09:48] lamont: that means gajim needs give-back on ppc and ia64? === lamont__ gives it back onemore time [09:48] lamont: thanx ;-) === \sh is too busy with kwave right now [09:49] coin is already uploaded [09:49] \sh: k, thanx anyway :-) [09:49] coin2 too [09:50] <\sh> Nafallo: we need to get those upstream guys to ubuntu ;) they should use bazaar and LP :)= [09:50] <\sh> Nafallo: because of this http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/94-Thinking-about-the-future.html [09:51] ajmitch: What's no problem? === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] bddebian: elmo won't hunt you down in your sleep just because the sync was botched [09:51] :-) [09:51] <\sh> bddebian: u r only responsible ;) [09:51] <\sh> to get it straight [09:52] :-( [09:52] <\sh> bddebian: what do u think I'm doing with kwave [09:52] \sh: gajim is on LP already :-) [09:52] <\sh> last uploader == donkey kong ,-) [09:53] <\sh> Nafallo: yes...I saw it, registered as product..but we don't have any chances (the last time i checked) to resolv the bugs in the products bug tracker [09:53] bddebian: it seems that most of the uploads were already handled? [09:53] \sh: true [09:54] <\sh> Nafallo: and thats not good [09:54] dholbach: Really? [09:54] \sh: I fixed the branding bug without knowing about it, is that good? ;-) [09:54] dholbach: HOw about stellarium? [09:54] 3 package i checked were handled already [09:54] <\sh> Nafallo: branding bug? hey I was 1 week away ;) [09:54] I just had elmo sync from Debian today for a gcc4 fix, then it needs a GL/GLU transition [09:54] \sh: there was a bug about having human as default theme ;-) [09:55] \sh: I just thought that would be a nice idea before, and today when I wanted to translate it, I found that bug with status fixed ;-) [09:55] <\sh> Nafallo: oh...didn't I fixed it in my last upload before i left? [09:56] <\sh> Nafallo: it was fixed before I uploaded the patch or something like this [09:56] \sh: don't think so. I added patches/04* for it ;-) [09:56] <\sh> ah..i never uploaded ubuntu5 ,-) [09:56] hehe [09:56] \sh: we need bzr for this package dude! ;-) [09:56] bddebian: so i take care of yours - pef should check what is done [09:57] bzr rocks :) [09:57] <\sh> Nafallo: 04_ubuntu_human_theme.patch it was in my patchwork dir ,-) [09:57] haha [09:57] dholbach: OK. I just know he was asking about one this morning. [09:57] it's superceded ;-) [09:57] <\sh> yedah === Nafallo jumps off meeting to read man bzr ;-) [09:58] Heh === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1967.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] bddebian: stellarium is up [10:00] dholbach: Rockin', thank you sir [10:00] bddebian: ctsim doesnt apply [10:00] :-( [10:01] Lathiat: avahi ftbfs, needs given back due to broken chroot [10:02] dholbach: Fuzz, what? [10:02] bddebian: i apply it manually [10:03] ajmitch: ah ok [10:03] it was the old W: Couldn't stat source package list http://jackass.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [10:03] so no build-deps could install [10:03] bddebian: ctsim is up too [10:04] w00t, thanks again [10:04] and please tell pef to check his list - so people don't try to upload stuff that's done :) [10:04] Lathiat: it built fine on other archs [10:04] ajmitch: cool [10:04] good to hear [10:04] havent reid it on ppc [10:04] avahi_0.2-0ubuntu1_20050906-1643-powerpc-successful === lamont__ plans to upload ghc6_6.4-4.1ubuntu1 (xorg changes) in an hour or 3 [10:08] lamont__: many thanks [10:08] that'll get a large chunk of haskell packages buildable again [10:08] yeah [10:08] but I'm not going to give those back until after preview, just to keep the buildd's pretty open === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] ok [10:12] lamont__: Would you mind checking on tagcoll for me? I.E. is it hung up in a dep-wait or anything? [10:16] bddebian: it was d-w libtagcoll1-dev, which isn't in the archive (libtagcoll0-dev is...) [10:16] I kicked it on the off chance that it's a stale build-dep [10:16] libtagcoll1-dev is one of the binaries it produces [10:16] so it's not a separate source package any more? [10:16] Not in this version [10:16] nice === ogra [n=ogra@pD9FAB481.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] oh... can someone add me to the "ubuntu development team" in LP? ;) [10:21] slomo: no, none of us can [10:22] ajmitch: oh ok [10:24] who can? [10:24] ah ignore me ;) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1967.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] w00t, tagcoll, thanks lamont__ [10:30] did we have talk about upload? i was off [10:30] what is me launchpad id? siretart or not? [10:32] siretart: look at your account details [10:32] and change them ;) probably siretart-tauware now [10:32] slomo: Name(Required): siretart [10:33] slomo: I need to change that? [10:33] :( [10:33] no [10:33] but you can ;) [10:33] my bigger problem is, that i'm not ubuntite yet according to lp [10:34] upload a signed CoC ;) [10:34] ah, signature inactive? wtf? [10:41] ah, perhaps because not in the ubuntu member team in lp yet === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] Lathiat: welcome to MOTU :) [11:06] thanks :) [11:06] Aye === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] <\sh> Lathiat & bddebian again: welcome to the team :) to the right side of life ;) [11:08] \sh: Heh, thx [11:08] hmm do your ubuntu.com addresses work?I sent myself mailes 15 minutes ago and still didn't show up [11:09] I really do need to change my nick [11:09] fw to gmail [11:09] <\sh> mine is working ;) [11:09] btw welcome lathiat and bddebian :) [11:09] janimo: works here [11:09] janimo: Thx === siretart hugs the newcomers! cheers! :) === ajmitch is going to switch his ubuntu uploads to ajmitch@ubuntu.com, debian to ajmitch@debian.org :) [11:09] ajmitch, wanna send me one at jani@u.c ?thanks [11:10] janimo: sent [11:10] hrm do i get @ubuntu.com? ;) [11:10] ajmitch, it arrived, thanks :) [11:11] <\sh> Lathiat: your launchpad-id + @ubuntu.com ,-) [11:11] great [11:11] it means it does not deliver self-addressed mail?funny [11:11] <\sh> Lathiat: when approved as member [11:11] oh sweet === siretart is not ubuntu member :( [11:11] siretart: wah, your NOT? [11:11] according to lp.. [11:11] No? [11:11] siretart how come you're still not a member?if you're a motu you should be [11:11] well, technially of course, but I missed to apply to that team in lp [11:11] siretart: so ask & get that sorted now [11:11] hey janimo [11:12] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-dev [11:12] ajmitch: you think I should ask elmo or sabdfl now? - I better wait until after the meeting, no? [11:12] ask now [11:12] before they get onto my stuff [11:12] not now [11:12] other buiessnes :) [11:12] hm [11:12] too late ;) [11:15] hey dholbach [11:15] congrats for getting out of school :) [11:15] with a good mark [11:16] thank you :) [11:16] i'm so happy === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-214.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] dholbach, great now get some sleep for a few days :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat updates his procmailrc not to junk lathiat@ubuntu.com mails [11:25] slomo: !!!! [11:32] wait, we have @ubuntu.com e-mails now? [11:32] yup [11:32] crimsun, yup members with valid lp accounts [11:35] good night everybody [11:35] night dholbach [11:35] night, daniel, congrats! [11:35] night dholbach [11:35] thank you, daniel :) === ajmitch had better get to work ASAP :) [11:36] Gnight dholbach [11:36] good night dholbach [11:36] congrats ajmitch! [11:37] thx [11:37] gn8 dholbach :) [11:38] slomo: i don't think we will get our upload rights anytime soon :( [11:38] mbreit: it will happen.. [11:38] baah, slomo has his personal uploader-monkey now :-P [11:39] Later gang. Congrats Lathiat, ajmitch, et al [11:39] Nafallo: sure... but you test everything before upload so i can't get to bed :P [11:39] thanks bddebian, congrats & welcome to you [11:39] Thx man [11:39] slomo: hehe ;-) [11:40] slomo: ofcourse, you can't. you haven't got amd64 ;-) [11:41] <\sh> Nafallo: u have amd64? [11:41] ajmitch: ;p [11:41] Lathiat: I got home last night, had dinner, fell asleep for 10 hours :) [11:41] ajmitch: tut tut so slack i dont know ;p [11:41] so not much time to review ipac-ng yet [11:41] what I saw looked good, and you're MOTU now ;) [11:42] <\sh> I really need some new pair of eyes.... [11:42] \sh: have had all the time :-) [11:42] <\sh> anyone has a ravel account and want to check a piece of code? [11:42] \sh: http://www.magicalforest.se/darkelf.shtml [11:42] :-) [11:42] Lathiat: well, if you count having a direct patch aginst the source instead of debian/patches [11:42] ajmitch: well [11:42] <\sh> Nafallo: apt-get source kwave [11:42] ajmitch: it didnt have an existing patches/ [11:43] ajmitch: seems messy to start screwing with all the debian control stuff.. [11:43] Lathiat: it is messy [11:43] thats what i thougth anyway, would it be better to add one than to patch directly? [11:43] good night all [11:43] \sh: and then? :-) [11:43] but it can help the debian maintainer === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:43] <\sh> Nafallo: cd kwave-0.7.3/libkwave/cputest [11:43] <\sh> .c [11:43] depends on how much they'll hate you [11:43] <\sh> aeh [11:43] <\sh> Nafallo: cd kwave-0.7.3/libkwave/ [11:43] <\sh> vi cputest.c [11:43] <\sh> and check the asm crap for amd64 [11:44] Lathiat: you re-synced with debian? [11:44] ajmitch: yes, needed to [11:44] <\sh> according to upstream and debian it should compile on amd64...but it doesn't work neither on the amd64 buildd nor ravel [11:44] yeah, good [11:44] Lathiat: I'd say put it in dpatch, as dpatch is fairly easy to integrate [11:44] hm ok [11:45] i'll look at that later [11:45] Lathiat: or ask the debian maintainer first? === ajmitch _really_ has to run off to work now [11:45] perhaps [11:45] ok [11:45] bye :) [11:45] bbiab :) [11:45] only 5:46 here [11:45] just avoid uni today i think [11:45] altho dont thnk my aunty and nana will be too impressed i avoided the last 2 days as well :) [11:48] \sh: I'll give it to my pbuilder. I don't know asm, but I'll be happy to make changes you want me to do ;-). [11:48] bye! [11:49] <\sh> Nafallo: well me neither...but there is a #if defined(__x86_64__) inside cputest.c and there the error occures ... and I'm really lost... [11:50] <\sh> ia64 works, ppc works, i386 works, but not amd64 === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.222.14.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] \sh: hmm, all those mentioned tries to use %0\n\t [11:54] <\sh> yes...just like in the 32bit asm section [11:57] \sh: why *q in amd64? [11:57] ah, 64-bit [11:58] <\sh> hmmm..there is another approach to fix it...let me see [11:59] <\sh> ok...one last cigarette and last build try and then -> bed...todays morning at least I have to go to my office and after this I have to go back to my little one