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JaneW [09:30] Argh. [09:31] I think we're losing a client [09:31] but they're not answering the phone, so who knows :p [09:31] i couldn't think of anything to post in planet [09:32] same school who hung up the ethernet cable under a 440V power line *sigh* [09:32] hi Mr Gotangco [09:32] magnon: maybe they got fried [09:33] dunno, but they blame us when their network is down :D [09:33] ah, they are more trouble than it's worth anyway [09:33] their loss [09:33] more enthusiastic people are interested [09:33] and I got us some consultancy work yesterday anyway [09:33] <3 people who are willing to pay shitloads for having me find a solution to whatever [09:34] wow [09:35] "This Linux thing... is it good?" [09:36] my father works in a rather hardcore windows environment and sometimes direct some customers to me... usual question :) [09:38] you can say that it's orgasmic [09:38] ooopsss this is an edu chan [09:38] I usually just say a lot of technical blabber, then say that it is awesome, and they trust my knowledge and agree :P [09:39] JaneW: will there be anything edubuntu-specific at BelowZero? [09:44] JaneW: pong [09:47] jbailey's email is jbailey@c.c as well? [09:47] magnon: I think so, but it hasn;t been arranged yet - there will certainly be some bofs [09:48] magnon: yes that should rach jef [09:48] reach jeff [09:49] I might consider going to belowzero [09:50] I mean, I am considering, I might even go ;) [09:51] nice [09:51] JaneW, there should be an edubuntu track, the LTSP guys are there [09:51] like what they did in sydney [09:51] anyone know how customs between Canada and US are now, btw? [09:51] in 2000 I could pass without a passport :P [09:52] ogra: is there enough edubuntu specifics to justify and entire track - kubuntu doesn't get a track [09:52] lucky for you anywhere i go, i usually need a visa [09:52] jsgotangco: where are you from? [09:52] Manila [09:53] Phillipines? [09:53] aye [09:53] Ah [09:53] well, we went to canada, they didnt bother [09:53] then we had to go back, I noticed I had forgotten my passport in NY [09:53] just said "New York City, sir" when the officer asked where I was from, and that worked nicely === JaneW needs a visa for everywhere too [09:57] except UK and parts of SE Asia [09:57] :\ [09:58] SE Asia that's strange [09:58] we usually don't require a visa for short trips [10:02] wow [10:02] the flight fares aren't that bad [10:02] 5.5k NOK [10:02] 700 eur [10:03] even cheaper to NY [10:09] JaneW, who is our main contact in Montreal? jbailey? [10:22] jsgotangco: yes I guess, what for? [10:23] just asking [10:23] (its not like ubuntu has an office everywhere to hold conferences) [10:23] jsgotangco: it was so cool when we went to Malaysia and Thaialand and all the Brits and Americans had to que up for visa checks and for oce us South Africans could just walk through ;) [10:23] anyone who talks with jeff are free to poke him to send me the sla :P [10:24] jsgotangco: indeed - jbailey lives a few train stops away from the hotel and I think BradB is nearby too [10:24] yes jeff told me its just a 20 minute walk [10:25] I guess you guys are all attending? === jsgotangco crosses fingers [10:27] jsgotangco: do you know when they are making the sponsorship decisions [10:27] ? [10:27] well, hope I'll see you there :) [10:27] JaneW, no i only know sponsorship application closes this weekend [10:30] JaneW, in case i get approved, i'll have to fix my papers early heh [10:39] yes good idea === JaneW is going to miss my son's 4 th birthday :((( [10:40] aww [10:40] my mom has been frequently missing my birthdays all the time, has been no problem :P [10:41] magnon: even at 4 years old? [10:41] nah [10:41] magnon: I think I will have to bribe him with promises of gifts from far away lands... [10:41] pre-schoolers are wonderful [10:41] but she's been alone from when I was 7, so she had to work a lot, thus being away [10:42] and will have to do better than a hastily grabbed (and horibly over priced) trinket from the airport - as happened in Sydney [10:42] buy him a stuffed Breezy [10:42] jsgotangco: when edubuntu launches I have 2 Pre K testers right here [10:42] magnon: he;d love that actually [10:43] I believe he will :) [10:43] magnon: in fact he got an HP linux penguin the other day [10:43] i gotta go [10:43] big and fluffy [10:43] arf, if I don't go to montreal, I might afford a Muse Receptor before Christmas :P [10:43] mooncake festival is just a week from now i gotta buy my girl a dress [10:43] I got the penguin shaped wine gums ;) [10:43] jsgotangco: :) enjoy [10:43] moon cake sounds nice [10:44] JaneW, i was forced by my kid to create a penguin out of clay [10:44] kids! all you guys have kids. :) [10:44] that won't be in many many years [10:44] just us oldies ;) === JaneW 's kids love the badger song (and dance) [10:45] JaneW, moon cake actually tastes good [10:45] badgers badgers badgers badgers [10:45] schnaakes [10:45] my father dated a girl with a six year old when they were both 20 [10:45] scary. [10:45] wow! [10:45] mushroom mushroom [10:45] she got pregnant at 14? [10:45] that's the one [10:45] apparently. :P [10:45] jsgotangco: no she had the kid at 14 [10:46] was prolly pregnant at 13!!! [10:46] well [10:46] what a waste of childhood innocence [10:46] it's possible to both get pregnant and have the kid at 14 [10:46] magnon: I know [10:46] and I think that was the case [10:46] ok [10:46] well then I exagerated [10:46] but it's still a waste [10:46] 13 is too hardcore [10:46] and illegal [10:47] almost everywhere in the world [10:47] was she cool? [10:47] it's not illegal unless one of the people involved are over 16 [10:47] dunno, I never met her === JaneW choses between 3 flight options... looking for the least insane traveling times [10:47] I didn't know my father when he was 20 [10:47] magnon: oh right! [10:48] that's 25 years ago, and I'm not that old :P [10:48] magnon: actually here I think it is illegal even if both are underage - the parents could sue each other (I'd have to confirm, but I *think*) [10:49] magnon: speak for yourself :P [10:49] I'd guess south africa has more problems with that than we have [10:50] tell that to the king of swaziland! [10:50] if a 16 year old and a 15 year old has sex, it'll be brought up and discussed, but not punished in any way [10:50] although the limit is 16 [10:50] if both are below 16, you can't do anything as you can't convict anyone below 16 anyway [10:52] ok im out [10:52] brb [10:52] JaneW: anyway, your son won't remember his 4th birthday when he grows up :P [10:53] magnon: I remeber mine [10:53] magnon: but then I am a freak , I remeber stuff from when I was still 2... [10:53] I must be an elephant [10:53] I just remember stuff from when I was in the kindergarden [10:53] and when mom and dad got separated [10:54] :/ [10:54] ok these flights officially SUCK [10:54] one leaves Montreal at 6pm on FRIDAY [10:54] and gets me home at 12pm on SUNDAY [10:54] I was 5 or 6, so I didn't really understand more than that me and my mother suddenly moved and I met dad alone instead of with mom :P [10:54] ouch! [10:54] (shame) [10:55] must have been hard [10:55] would have been harder if they didn't separate [10:55] parents who argue all the time aren't really the best ones to have around === JaneW cries - I'm going to miss Halloween too [10:55] and another Birthday [10:55] am I missing Halloween if I go to Montreal? [10:55] wee! [10:56] I hate halloween [10:56] well with the kids at any rate [10:56] it;s not big here [10:56] then again, I still don't have kids [10:56] but we have started trick or treating with the kids [10:56] JaneW, a "trac" ? [10:56] track even [10:56] morning [10:56] manily for the fun of dressing up [10:56] ogra: hi yes [10:56] morning Mr. Gra* [10:57] :) [10:57] JaneW, what do you mean by track ? [10:57] I mean Grawert ;) [11:00] wee, my Edubuntu Test Lab is finished [11:00] yay [11:00] it sounds much cooler than it is [11:00] oh ? === JaneW is looking for a not insane travel option to montreal [11:01] one is 41 hours!!!! [11:01] with a 14 hour stop in Frankfurt [11:01] it just covers about 2 square meters of my floor [11:02] JaneW: what company? [11:02] airline you mean? [11:02] yes [11:03] Lufthansa [11:03] JaneW, london or amsterdam is probably the fastest optoin [11:03] tried BA? [11:03] There's 3 options [11:03] BA - London [11:03] KLM - Amsterdam [11:03] Lufthansa - Frankfurt [11:03] JaneW, Air Canada flies in London and then SAA to Sa [11:04] hmm... SAA gives me air miles.. [11:04] JaneW, I have heard bad things about the length of the frankfurt flights [11:04] better choice [11:04] JaneW, it might also be cheaper for the london office to book the trip [11:06] JaneW, when is the LH flight ? [11:06] hmm [11:07] I can scrap the launchpad part of the conference, cant I? :P [11:07] depends... if you are interested in launchpad, you shuldnt [11:08] I'm interested in Edubuntu ;) [11:08] JaneW, the cheapest price I can find is 7,232.25 ZAR [11:08] well, I'm interested, but I don't have time to be involved in more stuff [11:09] magnon, if you want to come, make sure you stay the days where the LTSP guys are there too :) [11:10] yeah, I'm trying to find out when that is :) [11:11] if you know, do tell ;) [11:15] magnon just a sec [11:15] I have all the time in the world [11:15] :P [11:16] the 20 odd LTSp ppl arrive on Thurs 3 Nov [11:16] and leave on Mon 7th [11:16] does that help? [11:17] yes, thanks :) [11:17] I guess I'll stay from saturday to sunday [11:17] 8 days [11:17] then leave for NY on Sunday [11:17] JaneW, and the 20 even LTSp ppl ?? [11:17] :) [11:17] ogra: ever met an LTSP guy who isn't odd? === ogra goe to find a mirror.... [11:18] distro team works from Mon 31 Oct to Sat 5 Nov [11:18] .... hmm, nope [11:18] lol [11:18] :) [11:18] im not interested in launchpad _development_ for the time being at least [11:18] and I dont think I have two weeks to spend [11:22] who decides the sponsorships btw? [11:23] (not that I'm applying ;) [11:24] i think in the end the guy who spends the money ;) [11:24] ah ;) [11:25] hope Trent gets it [11:25] need people around my age to come ;p [11:25] what is your age ? [11:25] 19 [11:25] hahaha [11:25] hmm... [11:26] BA wants me to fly oslo-london-montreal-london-new york-london-oslo [11:26] we'll have some people around 20 there, i'm pretty sure :) [11:27] I think I could get a train from Montreal to NY instead [11:27] or local flight === Log-OS [n=LOG-OS@194.84.5.222] has left #edubuntu [] [11:30] magnon: there'll be several ppl tat age [11:31] don't worry [11:31] well, I know trent already, he's a cool chap, so I want him there anyway ;) [11:31] arf [11:31] arf ? [11:32] why is it not possible to say "I want to leave from Oslo to Montreal, then go back to Oslo, but I will make my own way to NY" [11:35] Magnon you can === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [11:35] Magnon we did that with Cape Town - Phuket [11:36] JaneW, you cant answer PM ? [11:36] JaneW: not on BA [11:37] maybe LH [11:38] ogra: did you get my PMs now? [11:38] nope [11:38] magnon: no seriously don;t tell them about your other flight [11:39] we did a Phuket - Bangkok hop, and the big flight never knew about it... [11:39] if I don't tell them, they will give me a return ticket from Montreal [11:40] somewhat wrong if I'm in NY :P [11:43] magnon: oic, I thought your return flight was montreal too... can;t you keep it that way, might be cheaper and easier [11:43] I'll have to be going to NY somewhere in between, but you're right [11:44] two way ticket Oslo->Montreal and then a two way montreal->NY is probably cheaper than anything else [11:44] even cheaper might be Oslo->NY and improvise to Montreal ;) [11:44] heh, two way NY is cheaper than one way [11:47] nice prices anyway :) === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-144-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:54] welcome back [11:54] this is just getting better [11:54] same [11:54] I was alone here! [11:54] I think it was you who left [11:54] ;) [11:54] this is great [11:54] 600 eur for the flight over [11:54] 350$ for NY-montreal [11:55] magnon I beg to differ... [11:55] guim has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * magnon has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * highvoltage has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * ogra has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * Orby has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * cyphase has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * sivang has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * yvesC has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * mwest has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * ubuntulog has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] * danjules has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:55] JaneW argh! [11:55] * yvesC (n=yves@81.56.207.189) has joined #edubuntu [11:55] :P [11:55] * highvoltage (n=Jono@196.36.161.235) has joined #edubuntu [11:55] * mwest (n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * ogra (n=ogra@p5089CF16.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * guim (n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] mine says you left though. [11:56] * magnon (n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * ubuntulog (n=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * Orby (n=orbman@85-210-170-12.dsl.pipex.com) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * cyphase (n=cyphase@adsl-69-224-19-59.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] wee, photogeeks vhost [11:56] * danjules (n=dan@24.215.14.137) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] * sivang (n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de) has joined #edubuntu [11:56] didnt know I had one [11:56] :PP [11:56] relativity... [11:56] nice prices anyway :) [11:56] <-- P3L|C4N0 hat sich getrennt (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:56] <-- JaneW hat sich getrennt (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [11:56] --> P3L|C4N0 (n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115) hat #edubuntu betreten [11:56] --> JaneW (n=JaneW@wbs-146-144-158.telkomadsl.co.za) hat #edubuntu betreten [11:56] welcome back [11:56] yup [11:56] relativity ;) [11:56] sigh [11:56] hm [11:57] what is a "preferred rate" [11:57] I choose the price? :P [11:57] lol [11:57] means they prefer you [11:57] (but they tell everyone that) [11:57] prefer me to pay as much as possible [11:57] (sluts) [11:58] I should try to share rooms with someone [11:58] What the hell. No rooms! [11:59] JaneW, you fly on the 26th ? [11:59] magnon: we all share [11:59] ogra: no I have to arrive on the 26th [11:59] JaneW: oh, so I don't have to worry about rooms if I sign up as an attendee? [11:59] yup... i mean from FRA ? [11:59] so it looks like I leav eon 24th, but am looking for a flight on the 25th [12:00] I mean, Canonical gets me a bed and I pay less than usual [12:00] magnon: dunno, msg cvd, she arranges all that [12:00] magnon: dunnp, but possibly... msg cvd [12:00] done already [12:00] ;) [12:01] ogra: I am tryingto avoid FRA [12:01] JaneW, ah... [12:01] ogra: a 14h stop over and visa... silly [12:01] if you guys miss a public lynching event for people without Linux laptops, I'm here for ya [12:01] i'm flying 6 OCT - FRA - YUL - 1400 - 1605, thats why i asked [12:01] s/6/26 ? [12:02] err, yes [12:02] copy n paste ... [12:02] LH 9640 26OCT Frankfurt Montreal 1000 1205 OPERATED BY AIR CANADA <- one of my options [12:02] likely pitti will be with me... [12:02] it's a 2 hour flight!? [12:02] 16 ;) [12:02] (with the TZ difference) [12:03] err 14 [12:03] ogra: that could be fun... unless you are horrible when not smoking *duck* [12:03] heh, i can live with it .... [12:04] highvoltage: was fun... (psychoboy) ;) [12:04] i cared or handicapped people at home in a former life... here i was locked into ppls flats and couldnt smoke for 10h ;) [12:04] highvoltage smokes ? [12:05] Wow [12:05] this machine has Mandrake installed [12:05] kernel 2.4.4 [12:05] ogra, support [12:06] :D [12:06] do I do a server install and install edubuntu stuff later or will the installer ask me? [12:06] (this is the edubuntu cd) [12:06] just run the CD ... for a ltsp install ... no options needed [12:06] mkay [12:07] no think client install yet? [12:07] thick [12:07] nope... === magnon wants fit clients [12:07] but a standalone workstation... you can make it a think client ;) [12:07] (if you use the "workstation" option at the Cd prompt) [12:07] not documented yet [12:08] http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [12:08] for instructions ;) [12:08] ogra: no he doesn;t smoke, he just doesn;t like being confined - but he handled it very well ;) [12:08] ogra: LOCKED into ppls flats?! [12:09] yup [12:09] hectic [12:09] ogra: and I am impressed at your range of skill btw... [12:09] heh, thanks... [12:10] thats because i didnt learn a real job... i always had time to learn something else :) [12:10] and now i'm here as a IRC addicted.... [12:11] heh [12:11] hello, my name is Oliver Grawert and i'm avid ofr chatting [12:11] have you all seen http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ ? [12:11] hello Oliver! [12:11] yup :) [12:11] hehe [12:12] ogra: no, i haven't smoked since i left school [12:12] hello highvoltage :) [12:12] installing edubuntu <3 [12:12] highvoltage, i was just wondering :) [12:12] highvoltage: good for you [12:13] magnon, yay [12:13] highvoltage: you just smuggle cigarettes ;) [12:13] magnon, do you have more than one client around ? i had a report of someone wher the serer couldnt handle the amount of clients... [12:13] just one client and my laptop [12:14] magnon, would be cool to have someone who coul dreproduce or test that [12:14] but, I can get it tested on one of the schools [12:14] one of them has like 75 clients [12:14] that'd be great... even we dont go for more then 30 clients per server currently... [12:15] hm [12:15] why? :D [12:15] works fine on one server [12:15] most are classroom clients anyway so all wont be used at the same time [12:15] and the server is badass [12:15] depends on the size of the server [12:16] 2x2.something ghz intel xeons [12:16] 8GB ram [12:16] private school :p [12:16] magnon, ask highvoltage, i think in his tests with dual xeon 4Gig he ended at 30 clients... [12:16] highvoltage: asking! [12:17] oh and gb network of course. [12:22] ** REMINDER** Edubuntu update meeting in +-100 minutes (12:00 UTC) in #ubuntu-meeting [12:32]