[12:03] ReTyPe: everyone needs a spare crash box :p [12:03] and wait for the computer doing nothing meanwhile [12:03] ReTyPe: another option is to install from an ubuntu disk and then install "kubuntu-desktop" [12:03] ReTyPe: you never know though [12:03] do it before you sleep =P [12:03] nalioth: I don't see the use of Screen [12:04] WiseElben: neither, a friend of mine loves screen but i dont see the point [12:05] WiseElben: down near the bottom "gnu screen" [12:06] WiseElben: or are you saying how you dont see how it works with bt? === Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] using 'screen' + bt, allows you to not have terminals everywhere if you d/l more than one thing at a time [12:09] i've had 30+ bt d/'s goin at once using screen, all in 3 terminals instead of 30 [12:09] screen has minimal impact on the system stability [12:10] torz, the thing i love about screen, is being able to detach from a console prompt, and reattach, or even attach to the same session from two places [12:10] (or more than 2, of course :) [12:10] nikkia: yes, there is that, also [12:11] nalioth: everyone seems to overlook the -x option [12:11] nikkia: so running irssi in screen, you can keep your place in channel during the X restarts [12:11] nalioth: or you can maintain the same irc session on a desktop and laptop (without using a bouncer) [12:11] nikkia: i'm not that complicated to need -x [12:11] nikkia: yes, screen roX0rs. thats why i like it [12:12] its also the best way to run things on shakey connections :) [12:12] as long as its on the other end of the connection [12:12] for example, my VPN to work often goes down, and i have a python script i need to run occasionally that takes 3 days to complete, so i just run it in a screen session [12:12] nikkia: bah, fair enough [12:13] (the script composites video clips, before anyone asks wtf takes 3 days to complete :) [12:13] btw guys would apt-get install ffmpeg get all the ffmpeg components? === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] supposively ffmpeg supports h264 playback but it aint working [12:13] torz, most of them, i don't think it installs a system-wide libavcodec/libavformat [12:13] but thats not essential to use ffmpeg [12:14] mmm i have both of em also [12:14] torz, you might have to hack the fourcc list [12:14] nikkia: nah I think I'll try and install vlc 0.8.2 on Kubuntu [12:14] steal a package from Debian [12:15] torz: i've found that one needs to install every codec they want on the machine and compile ffmpeg and mplayer on their own [12:15] nalioth: uhhh [12:15] ok I can't seem to connect with bittornado [12:16] no error messages, everything just stays idle at 0 === _matt [n=matt@h133.19.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] <_matt> how do i install flash? [12:17] !flash [12:17] somebody said flash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [12:17] <_matt> I got the linux format for ubuntu but i cant understand how to install it [12:18] ...? [12:18] oh [12:18] _matt: do you know your way around a terminal? [12:19] <_matt> not really [12:19] <_matt> i got this cuz i hate microsoft and i am sick and tired of XP [12:20] _mark: alrighty then, ubotu is gonna send you some info to read at your leisure [12:20] _mark: but for now, where did you d/l the flash thing to? [12:20] <_matt> home/matt [12:21] /home/matt :p [12:21] _matt: open a terminal [12:21] <_matt> got it [12:21] _matt: type ls and find the name of the file you d/l [12:22] <_matt> yes [12:23] _matt: now type ls -l [12:25] <_matt> ls -l install_flash_player_7_linux, correct [12:25] yes [12:26] <_matt> got it [12:26] _mark: copy and paste the first 10 characters from that line in here, please === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-033.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] <_matt> now do i type flashplayer-installer? === _john_ [n=john@ool-44c63ce7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] <_john_> how do i install simcity 3000 on linux? [12:28] _mark: i'm trying to see if they sent you an executable or now [12:31] _mark: when you typed ls -l it returned you something like -rw-r--r-- at the beginning of the line [12:31] <_matt> correct [12:31] _mark: can you paste thaat bit in here? [12:32] <_matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 matt matt 23579 2004-05-20 17:34 flashplayer-installer [12:32] <_matt> -rw-r--r-- 1 matt matt 856 2004-05-20 17:34 flashplayer.xpt [12:32] <_matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 matt matt 2096844 2004-05-20 17:34 libflashplayer.so [12:32] <_matt> -rw-r--r-- 1 matt matt 11689 2004-05-20 19:03 Readme.htm [12:32] <_matt> -rw-r--r-- 1 matt matt 5254 2004-05-20 19:46 Readme.txt [12:32] <_matt> sorry, was that what you were asking for? that directorie [12:32] _matt: ok now are you the only user on this box? [12:33] <_matt> i think so [12:33] _matt: then type ./flashplayer-installer === _matt [n=matt@h133.19.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:33] holy moly, he hit the wrong [x] === _matt [n=matt@h133.19.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] <_matt> hi, got disconnected by my router [12:35] _matt: when executables are not in our $PATH (where the OS looks), we execute thing with a ./ in front of them [12:35] _matt: then type ./flashplayer-installer [12:37] <_matt> i did and it said "./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory" [12:38] _matt: ok then. type "chmod u+x flashplayer-installer" [12:38] _matt: then run the ./blah again [12:41] <_matt> hmod u+x flashplayer-installer [12:41] <_matt> chmod: cannot access `flashplayer-installer': No such file or directory [12:41] _matt, you need to cd in to the directory first [12:41] <_matt> what i cant figure out was that i had this working on regular ubuntu [12:41] <_matt> ? === DewDude [n=dewdude@mo2.us] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] chavo: he is in the directory, or so he reported [12:44] <_matt> bout ready to have a buddy of mine come over and take a look, hes the idiot who put this kubuntu on === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] <_matt> is there any way to back to regular ubuntu with out redoing my whole system again? [12:45] _matt: you mean, 'not kubuntu'? [12:45] <_matt> yes [12:46] <_matt> i had regular ubuntu, hoary hedge-hog and was able to use it fine [12:46] <_matt> my buddy put this on and i dont have a clue [12:46] breezy [12:46] _matt: did you directly install kubuntu? [12:46] <_matt> no idea [12:46] <_matt> i have disks for ubuntu [12:46] hoary ubuntu/kubuntu is the same thing imo, one just looks insanely uglier than the other [12:47] _matt: i have an easier way: install "ubuntu-desktop" [12:47] _matt: Indeed KUbuntu and Ubuntu are exactly the same thing with a different set of defaults. [12:47] <_matt> how do i do that? [12:48] _matt: in your terminal type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" [12:49] <_matt> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version. [12:49] <_matt> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded. === wagenknechta [n=wagenkne@h-66-166-251-77.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] _matt: then log out, and log back in, but at your login screen, click "sessions" and choose "gnome" === lgsobalvarro [n=lgsobalv@cable200-116-195-92.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === lgsobalvarro [n=lgsobalv@cable200-116-195-92.epm.net.co] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _matt [n=matt@h133.19.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] _matt: so are you in gnome, now? [12:54] kde to gnome, what a downgrade :p [12:54] <_matt> yes [12:54] <_matt> thanks === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] <_matt> flash is installed, thank you [12:56] _matt: ok great. now get out! j/k [12:56] j/k [12:56] heh [12:57] _matt: kubuntu and ubuntu are just gnome and kde on top of the same innards [12:57] <_matt> thank you again later === lgsobalvarro [n=lgsobalv@cable200-116-195-92.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === lgsobalvarro [n=lgsobalv@cable200-116-195-92.epm.net.co] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.123.158] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === yonkel-lappy [n=yonkeltr@pcp04665066pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] is there a reason that my computer might switch to another wifi network in my area randomly? can i stop this from happening? === flo [n=flo@i577B12A9.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #kubuntu === panickedthumb [n=travis@rad-va-20-pc-163.cablenet-va.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] uf === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-66-143-162-101.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:50] anyone have a good 'getting spamfilters working with kmail' link? i've been over the first page of google links, but am left feeling unfulfilled :) === blastermaster [n=blasterm@64.237.223.88] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] whats a decent dc++ client that wont get banned by servers? === astro76 [n=james@68-168-170-58.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === yonkeltron [n=yonkeltr@pcp04665066pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _retype [n=retype@217.219-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === _retype is now known as retype === kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-139.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-139.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu [] === kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-139.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:18] hey everyone. === kayfelix the ex-kubuntu user... [02:20] gee aint there lots of talk here! its like a trainstation... === kayfelix [n=kayfelix@dsl-082-083-077-139.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu [] === pato [n=pato@200.87.29.131] has joined #kubuntu === customer [n=customer@210.213.147.6] has joined #kubuntu === static [n=static@ppp-70-243-95-40.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] seems kubuntu people go to bed early :) === keith [i=transgre@71.14.20.160] has joined #kubuntu === Chambers- [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _douglas [n=douglas@pcp0010523178pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === cor3gam3r [n=cor3gam3@pcp01570724pcs.indstr01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] heh [02:57] i don't === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2F8A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:09] do kubuntu users have less problems than ubuntu users? or is it just that there are fewer users? === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] BlankB: kubuntu is ubuntu. the difference is kubuntu runs KDE by default [03:14] BlankB: i have kde, gnome, enlightenment, xfce4 Desktop Manglers on my system atm === static [n=static@ppp-70-243-95-40.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu === ^rob^ [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] <^rob^> hi [03:18] <^rob^> does anyone know where to find kipi-plugins? - it is not in apt... === john_ [n=john@ool-44c63ce7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:21] ^rob^: what is a kipi plugin? [03:22] <^rob^> http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kipi/ [03:22] <^rob^> http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php [03:23] <^rob^> i found hoary pkgs here ;) === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:24] ^rob^: ok lookin at what it does [03:24] are the coolers that come with cpus any good? [03:25] <^rob^> nalioth: did yo u never used or heared about digikam? [03:25] ^rob^: so your original question was "where to find" but you've posted a URL. kipi is not there? [03:26] ^rob^: i'm confused now. does the pkg at that site not work for you? [03:26] <^rob^> othernoob: depends - i have a box cpu - cooler camed with - it's a 2.4 i have it since... almost 2 years... never changed the cooler... but i keep it clean - once a month or 2 months [03:26] othernoob: they are designed to work for 3 years [03:26] <^rob^> nalioth: 1 sec. [03:27] <^rob^> nalioth: why do you ask - i put the 1.st deb in my sources list, updated packages and now i have a dist-update in progress [03:28] nalioth: a friend of mine wants me to upgrade his pc, but the budget is limited..so, would you say that buying a different cooler is unneccessary? === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] <^rob^> yes [03:29] othernoob: unless you are overclocking, the factory heatsink will be fine [03:29] <^rob^> othernoob: it is completly unnecessary - untill you hear noisy sounds or.. overclocking... [03:30] noisy sounds as in standard cooler noise or rather a broken vent noise? i assume the latter [03:30] <^rob^> second. [03:30] good. he won't be OCing, he just wants to play games [03:31] <^rob^> usually when a cooler goes down - you will get some messages from the pc - or if you have set in bios at what temperature to shut down pc... you will notice... a shutting down ;) [03:32] <^rob^> nalioth: i'll tell you if it worked... [03:33] lol okay, that seems to be good enough. he's not very familiar with pcs, so i'm trying to look for risks in the purchases === torz [n=torum@203.173.236.41] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] <^rob^> digikam is cool and easy to use - if you have to resize lots of image or repeating the same process to each image - you have a batch process there - it's in kipi-plugins... === koalah [n=koalah@ppp082.fd.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] i did kynaptic for firefox and it's not in the kmenu? [03:39] ^rob^: please do [03:39] kalah: I did mine via synaptic and it was all good. [03:40] hmm [03:41] can't you just manually put it in the menu? [03:41] i don't know, lol. [03:41] right click on the kmenu button [03:42] theres a thing called KDE menu editor [03:42] that might help [03:42] k [03:42] maybe [03:43] besides no shame in running firefox via terminal :p [03:43] 90% of the time I dont click the icon [03:44] booyaa [03:45] yay :~) [03:50] terminal is your friend === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.22] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] <^rob^> nalioth: it is working. [03:56] <^rob^> you can add them in sources.list ;) [03:57] <^rob^> bye === ^rob^ [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has left #kubuntu [] [04:00] nalioth: you got a minute? [04:01] othernoob: sure thing [04:04] as i was saying earlier, i'm upgrading a friends pc. or pretty much building the entire thing. i have a 500 budget. so far i have found Corsair 2*512MB DDR for 90, a Sapphire RadeOn 9800SE 256MB DDR for 96 a cheap midi tower for about 30, some extra coolers for the tower for about 20. which leaves me about 250 for hdd, CPU and Mainboard. [04:04] now i'll use ~50 for a 80GB hdd. leavin 200 for cpu+mb and if neccessary, a better PSU than a 350W, which comes with the tower [04:04] what would you suggest? [04:05] unfortunately i have to get a new tower as well since his old one is a mini-tower and i doubt that anything fits in there :/ === Chambers- [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === torz [n=torum@203.173.236.41] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:08] othernoob: hang on a minim, i'm tryin to comprehend your unit of currency (not displaying properly here) [04:09] sorry, the currency is euro [04:09] ah [04:10] 350w is fine for a power supply as long as you dont stick too many drives in it [04:10] and 1gb ram will definitely make ubuntu happy [04:10] well, planned is only the 80GB + maybe his old 20GB + cddrive and maybe his old dvddrive [04:11] windows wont use any more than ~300mb of ram (cuz it sux) [04:11] i'd not put any more drives than the ones you mentioned [04:11] well, he'll most likely only use windows. he's a gamer [04:12] then he'll be well set with 1gb ram [04:12] so if i could get a cheap tower with a 420 or 460W PSU i should go for it? [04:12] i'd suggest AMD processors === panickedthumb [n=travis@rad-va-20-pc-163.cablenet-va.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:13] if he doenst know puters, and you're only gonna have those 4 drives in it, 350 is fine [04:13] yea i thought so too considering their prices, but he lives under the roof, so it's not that cool in his rooms [04:13] unless the cost is the same for the tower (and the quality is the same for the PS) [04:13] othernoob: never short yourself on the power supply [04:13] i can't say much about the quality of the PSU, since they come with the tower [04:13] othernoob: i'd rather have a good quality 350 then a shoddy larger one [04:14] i myself have a bequiet!550W..but that cost 80E back when i bought it. [04:15] for most users who dont know beans about the insides of the box, >= 400w is fine === flugh [n=jim@pool-70-22-51-173.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] the videocard doesnt need it's own power line, does it? [04:17] I'm actually not sure. i don't know much about that video card. just picked it because of its price and apparently it's good and should last for another year or two regarding games [04:18] i dont think it's one of the ones that needs the extra power input [04:18] mmh, just checked my video card, i have the 9800 pro, and it's connected to the psu [04:19] othernoob: if the card you are wanting for the build machine requires the extra teat, you might go with a bigger PSu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:20] if you know a better card for around 100, just name it. i only checked a few stores and tests so far [04:21] i've seen the x700 for about the same price but with only 128mb, so i'm not convinced that it is as good as the 9800SE [04:21] othernoob: i'm far from Europe, i live in Texas [04:21] i think 128 is plenty, but i do not game [04:22] i have a nvidia card with 128mb in my powermac [04:22] yea but prices are pretty much the same..mmh i think 100 euro are like 120 or 130 $ [04:22] othernoob: www.pricewatch.com [04:24] that's a pretty cool site === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:28] mmh..i'm undecided regarding motherboards...asrock or gigabyte..mmh.. [04:28] i myself prefer asus.but the other two are cheaper and still good [04:28] seen any usb-pci cards that work in linux [04:29] othernoob: if you're going linux, it'd be wise to use nvidia [04:30] pussfeller: sorry, i haven't. but haven't looked for that either === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.126.58] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] i know theres a bunch of chipsets that work, its matching the chipsets to the seller and model #thats the prob [04:30] krut: yea i know, but it's unlikely that he'll use linux for more than a rescue-CD [04:30] oh [04:31] i didn't see that. [04:31] i heard the ati support has gotten alot better recently [04:31] krut: he's just a gamer and his daughter just a chatter.. === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.126.58] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:31] pussfeller: it has... but it still needs to come a way. [04:31] i've convinced her to use gaim instead of icq today :) [04:31] heh === krut just recently switched because he fixed his old card. [04:32] thats old school === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.126.58] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] what are the intel 775? are those 64bit? [04:34] isn't that the new socket type for intel? [04:34] lga? [04:35] yea [04:35] i haven't read much about hardware for the last 2 years.. :/ [04:36] I've lost interest [04:36] Or an obligation. (Quit gaming.) 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[05:19] but i do need some help [05:19] ok shoot === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] well, im on a laptop and the touchpad is a bit too sensitive now, how do i turn it down :P [05:20] uhhh [05:20] ok [05:20] and other things [05:21] open up kcontrolcenter [05:21] like identd and wifi [05:21] k [05:21] one thing at a time Talim [05:21] alright :) [05:21] and under peripherals there should be a mouse entry with everything you need [05:21] 'lo Talim, go in well? [05:21] thanks :D [05:21] yes, very well :) [05:21] Talim: let me know how that works out and we can reevaluate [05:23] k, i got that fixed === qwas [n=abel@80.92.161.28] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] how do i set up my identd? [05:24] identd is something i am not as familiar with [05:24] wifi however....might be easier === qwas [n=abel@80.92.161.28] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:24] or rather [05:24] different [05:24] ok [05:24] well, i do need help with that [05:25] how do i get it to recognize my card? [05:25] what card? [05:25] and what laptop? [05:25] i'm not sure, sec, i'm on an Acer TravelMate 2303LCi [05:26] ok [05:26] pop open a konsole and give lspci a shot [05:26] see if it reveals a wifi card [05:27] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01) [05:27] probally? :P [05:28] yeah [05:28] seems like it [05:28] ok [05:29] any idea what im gonna need to do? :) === Talim waits patiently === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216126.hartford.edu] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] unable to autodetect wireless interface [05:45] Yes! The card works fine as ndis0, by using i2220.sys and [05:45] NET2G54L.inf, on FreeBSD-current. [05:45] but on google i did find that [05:46] any help at all? or do i need to look harder? [05:46] Talim: sorry, i know nothing about wireless [05:47] alright, thanks [05:47] this looks like it's gonna be a long uphill struggle [05:48] but i have all the time in the world... :| === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] i have to learn how to use this: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ [05:50] learning is life [05:50] alright :) i'm gonna go in their irc channel and bug them [05:50] thanks guys [05:51] Talim: i have an idea [05:51] Talim: try #wireless [05:52] nah, i figured it out slightly [05:52] i need to use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers [05:52] installing that is my next difficult task [05:52] but i'm prepared to go it alone === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] simple newbie question, in konsole how do i run something as root? [05:59] Talim a console program? [05:59] Talim: or startin a gui app? [06:00] i'm trying to compile something [06:00] Talim: then use "sudo" [06:00] Talim: but for launching gui apps, use "kdesu " [06:01] thanks :) didn't work though [06:01] make[1] : Entering directory `/home/mike/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver' [06:01] Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build; [06:01] do you know what i'm doing wrong? [06:03] you need to install your kernel sources [06:03] search in synaptic === jnfoote [n=jnfoote@203.100.223.114] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] ok [06:03] i unfortunately can't tell you which pkg to get, cuz i dont operate a x86 box [06:04] what should it be under? [06:05] search for "kernel" [06:06] oh, i get it now, thanks :) [06:07] Talim: i'm good for most answers. I run macintosh hardware so am not as knowledgable about x85 arches as i could be === wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] ok, i'm quite sure i installed it but it still isn't working [06:11] nalioth: it's x86 ;D [06:12] I think i'm not doing something right [06:12] Kuolio: i am that old. [06:13] Talim: install in synaptic "linux-kernel-headers" [06:13] it's installed === jnfoote [n=jnfoote@203.100.223.114] has joined #kubuntu [06:14] Talim: perhaps the larger knowledge pool in #ubuntu can help you [06:14] ok i'll ask in there :) thanks === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.22] has joined #kubuntu === runelind [n=mattias@c-67-174-106-90.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [06:31] EHLO [06:34] installing kubuntu right now, but have been having issues in the past [06:34] wondering if it is hardware issues on this laptop, it's been picky about what it lets on it lately [06:36] runelind: if all your attempts (with different distros) are 'touchy' then perhaps it is hardware - related === `Nomad [n=Bob@stjhnbsu67w-142167000083.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === transgress [i=transgre@71.14.20.160] has joined #kubuntu === thorg [n=wilt@r42h220.res.gatech.edu] has joined #kubuntu [06:47] hi, is there a nice way to upgrade your wireless-tools (a deb somewhere)? I have the new 2.6.13 kernel which supports my pcmcia now, but iwconfig complains that my kernel has "version 18" of the wireless extensions and iwconfig is "version 17", and it isn't setting up my card properly. [06:49] thorg: using debian pkgs can futz up your ubuntu install [06:49] thorg: have you checked backports? [06:49] "there was a problem installing the selected software" [06:49] one or more packages failed to install [06:49] nalioth: no, I used kpkg, is that also bad though? [06:50] nalioth: no, haven't check backports, where is this? [06:50] kpkg? [06:50] is that like kynaptic? [06:51] nalioth: kernel-package, make config like usual, and then run kpkg to make a deb of your custom kernel [06:51] thorg: thought we were talking bout iwconfig [06:51] !tell thorg about backports [06:52] nalioth: aha, yes I do have backports actually [06:52] then i dont want to advise you on kernel mucking === bash [n=bash@pc-26-56-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === bash [n=bash@pc-26-56-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:57] nalioth: bummer. my pcmcia locks up with the default kernel though. configurations like nolapic don't help :( oh well thanks, I will compile new tools from scratch see if that works [06:57] thorg: i dont advise folks on kernel stuff === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-66-143-162-101.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] Talim: alien [07:00] ok [07:00] Talim: what confuses you? [07:00] someone said something else [07:01] Talim: you know alien, right? [07:01] i dont really know alien, but i did it [07:01] and it seems to be done [07:01] so now what? [07:02] where did it go? :) [07:02] it installed to wherever it was supposed to go [07:03] alright, i'm not sure where that is but cool === _felipe [n=felipe@20-88-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] i think i fail! [07:14] well, fuck, did it go to /etc? === Talim = biting his nails === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:14] waht are you looking for? === FractuS [n=jey@cable200-58-219-196.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] pyslsk [07:15] which i think i installed [07:16] Talim: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb" === Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-132-046.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] k done [07:17] Talim: hi men [07:18] Talim: when that finishes, you can "locate pyslsk" [07:19] /usr/bin/pyslsk yay good times! [07:19] and hello FractuS === nalioth is a purty sly weasel on lots of subjects === FractuS is now known as fractus_away [07:21] Can not find PySoulSeek modules. [07:21] Perhaps they're installed in a directory which is not [07:21] in an interpreter's module search path. [07:21] (there could be a version mismatch between [07:21] what version of python was used to build the PySoulSeek [07:21] binary package and what you try to run PySoulSeek with.) [07:21] eeeeek [07:21] build them [07:22] alright, how? :) === fractus_away is now known as FractuS [07:22] ask uncle google to show you pysoulseek homepage, grab the source from there [07:23] pyslsk-1.2.7b.tar.gz - the source (that you can also run right after unpacking, no compilation or Linux emulation is needed) [07:23] k i have that [07:24] Talim: then now is the time to pet the cat [07:24] as in "cat README|more" [07:24] k [07:24] or "cat INSTALL|more" === nalioth is an ornery fella who'd rather compile than install a binary === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:27] pyslsk-1.2.7b$ python setup.py install [07:27] running install [07:27] error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) [07:27] :( [07:27] i think i need to install more crap [07:29] Talim: oh crap! [07:29] Talim: open up your synaptic (kdesu synaptic) and install your python dev libs [07:41] i updated a ton of stuff [07:41] so i'm listening to a cd while i wait :) [07:42] jazz on === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth has some samba on now === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] Can not find wxPython modules. Either wxPython is not [07:51] installed, or it's not in Python's module search path (it could be built [07:51] for a different version of python interpreter for example). The current [07:51] search path is [07:51] aw :( [07:53] Talim: wxpython - bleh -dev [07:53] Talim: this is probably weird to some folks, but i searched in synaptic for '-dev' and installed everything === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-19-130.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === setite [n=setite@222.sub-70-219-149.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === Talim [n=mike@24-236-241-16.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:57] crashed hard === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [07:59] Talim: this is probably weird to some folks, but i searched in synaptic for '-dev' and installed everything === Cosmos [n=cosmosde@218.249.110.145] has joined #kubuntu === _setite [n=setite@0.sub-70-209-149.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === runelind [n=mattias@c-67-174-106-90.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === _setite [n=setite@64.sub-70-209-2.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === sorrylooking [n=jonas@r4m22.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@c220-237-62-176.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as hmmf === gath [n=gath@dsl-213-023-180-233.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] hi there [08:36] hi ppl, anyone have a solution for a cd burner in ubuntu/kubuntu pls [08:36] anybody knows where i can download kubuntu 5.04 DVD, but no bittorrent [08:37] nowhere on the same page gath? [08:37] might be easiest to d/l bittorent [08:38] its a nobrainer to install with an rpm or you may have it [08:38] i used bittorrent, but it is so slowly 20k/s [08:39] I just got kubuntu @200k/s all the way not real flash but ok [08:39] you on dialup === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] anyone know a cdburner or cdrdao for ubuntu out there please??? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] anyone using ubuntu??? :) [08:42] k3b [08:42] needs cdrdao [08:42] cant findd it [08:43] sudo apt-get install k3b ? [08:43] tried with cdrdao why not, thanks shogouki === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === skalpel [i=skalpel@adsl-69-153-195-164.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] can someone tell me how to change my default movie player from noatun to kaffeine? [08:47] please? [08:48] skalpel: in konqueror, right click on your movie files, click 'open with' and at the bottom of the dialog, check the "always open with" or whatever it is [08:49] or in kcontrol [08:49] kde components tab === AnHu [n=anton@mnch-d9ba4c01.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] hmmf, whered he go?? [09:02] needs to add more repositories. [09:02] who? [09:02] !info cdrdao [09:02] cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB [09:02] skalpel: hmmf :) [09:03] hmmf [09:03] how can i help you? [09:04] lol skalpel he's gone now... === gath [n=gath@dsl-213-023-180-233.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@pf-amon.crid-85.ac-nantes.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] aftertaf: add all the repos [09:06] nalioth: not for me....... for hmmf who is gone now. [09:06] for anyone: add all repos ubuntu offers [09:06] lol :D [09:06] add *everything* [09:07] in 4 weeks, we're gonna be back to "dont use backports" and all the rest of the drivel [09:08] yeah but for now..... install till it smokes on boot time :) [09:08] just updated kde core stuff with adept... works a treat. === flo [n=flo@i577B11FB.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] can someone explain this error to me? [09:18] xine: couldn't find demux for >http://av.adobe.com/education/2005winners/time2_park.mov< [09:18] input_http: content length = 6134654 bytes [09:18] xine: found input plugin : http input plugin [09:18] >>> Check if another program already uses PCM <<< [09:18] snd_pcm_open() failed:-16:Device or resource busy [09:19] your sound device is being used by something else === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu === wincide [n=trax@197.Red-83-49-252.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] hi [09:42] howdy === peca [n=peca@82.202.116.207] has joined #kubuntu === _chavo [n=chavo@189.sub-70-197-32.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === Cosmos [n=cosmosde@218.249.110.145] has joined #kubuntu === Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-233-7-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === rafaelf [n=rafaelf@213.250.167.3] has joined #kubuntu === Tm_Tr [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu === Tm_T is now known as Tm_T- === Tm_Tr is now known as Tm_T === Tm_T- is now known as Tm_Tr [10:08] hi? [10:08] [10:08] ok === Cosmos [n=cosmosde@218.249.110.145] has left #kubuntu [] === pcaro [n=pcaro@19.Red-80-59-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === pcaro [n=pcaro@19.Red-80-59-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === jimmy_neutron [n=jimmy@dsl-linz7-18-199.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === kkasina [n=ken@62.56.250.78] has joined #kubuntu === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu === kkasina [n=ken@62.56.250.78] has joined #kubuntu === hettar [n=hettar@ppp96-140.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === _zero [n=zero@82-36-132-142.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === _zero is now known as Mez [10:31] Riddell: re [10:31] Riddell: just mail me the backtraces if you have 'em :) [10:31] Riddell: so far all the crashes i have got are related [10:32] Riddell: i guess i'll ask for b.k.o entry [10:32] now, breakfast [10:32] b.k.o? === CCFIEL [n=kelly@210.213.152.48] has joined #kubuntu [10:33]