[12:06] <\sh> got it [12:06] <\sh> wow [12:06] <\sh> fixed... [12:07] :-) [12:08] <\sh> Nafallo: if you have time tomorrow, please test it ,-) [12:09] \sh: you mean... running kde on my laptop? :-P [12:09] \sh: or just build? ;-) [12:09] <\sh> Nafallo: running kwave on your laptop only...after that remove ,-) [12:09] <\sh> no...testing ,-) [12:09] <\sh> uploaded just now [12:09] and how many tons of kde-crap will that give me? :-) [12:10] <\sh> not much [12:10] <\sh> kdelibs, kdemultimedia, kcontrol and kdebase ,-) [12:10] gaah [12:11] I hope it's able to run inside a pbuilder ;-) [12:11] <\sh> and qt ,-) [12:11] <\sh> dchroot [12:11] nope [12:11] pbuilder [12:11] :-) [12:11] <\sh> with X display? [12:11] that's the part that needs fixing ;-) [12:11] <\sh> u see ,-) [12:12] so if I successfully fix that tomorrow, I can try ;-) [12:12] <\sh> ok..so I can go happy to bed ... kwave compiled..,-) [12:13] :-) [12:13] \sh: you will have to rewrite pyicq-t to something that works first ;-) [12:15] <\sh> hehe. [12:15] <\sh> Nafallo: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/94-Thinking-about-the-future.html <- take a look ,-) [12:15] \sh: again? :-) [12:15] <\sh> oh u have ;-) [12:15] <\sh> so u know now what I'm upto ,-) === slomo reads \sh's blog ;) [12:16] \sh: ehm... you know, we talked about that? :-) [12:16] \sh: and I'm second on that breezy+1goal :-) [12:16] <\sh> yes...but this goes further ;) [12:16] \sh: than the worlddomination we had in mind? ;-) [12:16] <\sh> it means world domination ,-) === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-222.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] lol [12:17] <\sh> get the cd, register with launchpad, phone for free and jabber everyone *g* [12:17] :-) [12:17] \sh: will we get a ubuntu jabber server? ;) [12:17] with pymsg-t for parents :-P [12:18] slomo: that's MOTUIM breezy+1goal indeed :-) [12:18] <\sh> slomo: well...nobody knows...but it's a plan... [12:18] <\sh> with the start of @ubuntu.com mail addresses [12:18] <\sh> why not [12:19] hehe... would be perfect :) [12:19] <\sh> something like google talk ,-) [12:19] dotUbuntu :-) [12:19] \sh: but with s2s support :P [12:19] google talk haven't got SIP and e-mail? ;-) [12:19] <\sh> slomo: yes...but to servers which sign the coc ,-) [12:19] lol [12:19] lol [12:19] <\sh> Nafallo: google talk will have sip signalling someday [12:20] <\sh> Nafallo: but we will be faster and using already established techniques ,-) [12:20] \sh: but we will have it before them? :-) [12:20] @ubuntu.com addresses are for members only, though :) [12:20] as said ;-) [12:21] Nafallo: \sh was saying about any user [12:21] <\sh> ajmitch: ok...lets say @user.ubuntu.com ,-) [12:21] ajmitch: hmm, we rather forgot the fact you mentioned ;-) [12:21] <\sh> i mean it doesn't matter.... [12:21] yeah :) [12:21] <\sh> ajmitch: but we need at least alpha and beta testers so it's a good start ,-) [12:22] \sh: something like that would rock though [12:22] have tight server integration with launchpad :) [12:22] using the teams there [12:22] <\sh> ajmitch: the first step will be http://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/AuthServer [12:23] ah yes [12:23] <\sh> sorry https [12:23] when did they open the launchpad wiki, btw? [12:23] I had a read through it recently [12:23] <\sh> and team integration can be done via shared roster in jabber [12:23] ok === ajmitch doesn't know the capabilities of jabber, except that it's quite cool [12:24] <\sh> but I have to read a bit more about launchpad databases and stuff like this [12:24] hm. AuthServer sounds interesting for revu... [12:24] <\sh> anyways it's just an idea and it's not an easy goal [12:24] <\sh> means, we will have more then one release cycle for this === ajmitch remembers discussin a single sign-on plan using jabber with some friends [12:25] pity no real source code came out of it [12:25] <\sh> ajmitch: it's difficult to have a real single sign on.. [12:25] \sh: it's a worthy breezy+1 goal [12:26] to have this jabber+launchpad [12:26] <\sh> ajmitch: lycos europe did it with a propietary IM [12:26] ajmitch: jabber+launchpad+shtoom+gnome-about-me=dotUbuntu :-) [12:26] Nafallo: yep [12:27] <\sh> ajmitch: if there is an API to auth mechs from and to LP it should be easy to integrate it everywhere [12:27] after awhile the UI can be integrated more, also [12:27] rather than disjoint apps === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-033.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] <\sh> ajmitch: the idea is also, to merge shtoom + gajim == python rocking SIP/XMPP Client ,-) [12:28] mmmm [12:28] google talk for linux ;) [12:29] <\sh> ajmitch: google talk im client is closed source [12:29] but better than google talk :P === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] \sh: I know that [12:29] <\sh> anyhow...actually I'm sleeping and dreaming ,-) so I go to bed :) [12:29] gn8 \sh :) [12:30] \sh: gnight, and good thinking :-) [12:30] gn8 \sh [12:30] <\sh> cu guys and again: congrats to the new MOTUS and ajmitch welcome to main :) [12:30] \sh: thanks :) [12:30] anyway, goodnight all :-) === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] ok, gn8 everybody :) === ajmitch watches the channel population drop like flies [12:38] whoah that wouldnt be a ghc6 upload i see [12:39] Lathiat: another one [12:39] more curious if it means we're getting somewhere :) [12:39] Lathiat: nope, build failed of course [12:40] yeh but i guess it might get some love then :) [12:40] no? :) [12:40] we hope so [12:41] gn8 folks! [12:41] lamont__: I think you have to force install of an old ghc6 & libgmp3, to get a new ghc6 built [12:41] I think.. :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] ajmitch: I have the new ghc6 built. now I'm just trying to get it built and uploaded. [12:48] great [12:48] ajmitch, when did you see metallikop around the last time ? [12:48] ogra: long time ago now.. [12:48] you [12:49] yup even === ajmitch can grep irc logs [12:49] nah [12:49] i just looked and he did exactly one upload for breezy === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra is comapring the launchpad teams [12:49] that's a shame [12:49] yup [12:50] I guess we have a few people that will lose interest or not have time [12:50] yup [12:51] i'll mail him anyway to add his data to launchpad... at least he's in the uploaer keyring [12:51] 18:28 < metallikop> got a new job so I haven't been that active at all. [12:51] that was back in may [12:52] ajmitch: so with the new data-center-built ghc6t installed in the chroot, I get to rebuild happy and haddock, and then I think I can build ghc6 :-) [12:53] great, sounds like we owe you a beer or something :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.222.14.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] so if i add a uid to my gpg key [12:59] it says [ unknown] instead fo [ultimate] which i assume is trust, how do i change that [01:00] with ownertrust? [01:01] iirc, yes [01:01] hrm [01:01] perhaps not [01:01] Lathiat: you have to make it to UBZ so that you can get autographs^Wkey signatures [01:01] perhaps i need to sign that uid === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] ajmitch: yeh [01:02] its a shame i lost my old key i had a few good people on that [01:02] better to be safe than sorry :) [01:02] yep === ajmitch is looking at getting a usb key to put an encrypted partition on\ === Lathiat used to have it on his watch [01:04] oh, and make sure you have your revocation certificate stored separately away somewhere :) [01:04] ajmitch: yeh :) === ajmitch has been meaning to leave stuff at parent's place === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] Lathiat: got progress on ipac-ng? [01:12] ghc4515.hc:(.text+0x2ae9e): undefined reference to `__stginit_ControlziMonadziWriter_' [01:12] well, that sucks [01:22] ajmitch: so for dpatch [01:22] ajmitch: i include patch and [01:22] add the various patch targets to the thingies [01:25] yeah [01:25] ok how do i tell if this is the older or newer debhelper [01:25] make sure you have unpatch [01:25] (the examples ahve dh and dh.new [01:25] uh? [01:25] dh.new, I guess === ajmitch hasn't often used the template [01:27] ok think i got it [01:27] ajmitch: no ghc6 love today. [01:27] haddock is ftbfs [01:27] :( === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-68.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] hm, where do bugs that I'm watching in malone show up? certainly not on the assigned bugs list for me [01:33] ajmitch: (or anyone else) - if you want to work on fixing haddock, just add: "deb people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ghc6 /" to your sources.list, and you should be able to reproduce the FTBFS... [01:36] fetching now [01:38] lamont__: your Packages file there is broken [01:38] grumble [01:38] it has apt-ftparchive usage info :) === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CF16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] ajmitch: works for me. :-) [01:41] yep, looks fine now, fetching ghc6 [01:41] after I fixed it, of course [01:41] oops. time to flee === ajmitch is happy to see it d/ling at 200K/sec === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] ajmitch: http://bur.st/~lathiat/ipac-ng.debdiff === wickedpuppy [n=wicked@cm151.epsilon165.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] Damn Lathiat, busy at it already eh? ;-) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] Can't we just ban highvoltage? :-) [02:28] oh wow [02:28] Sept. 10th is Software Freedom Day === chillywilly is on top of things ;) [02:29] Heh [02:29] So how did I become an administrator for MOTU for LP? [02:31] bddebian, we all are admins there === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] ogra: I see that. Is there some significance? [02:31] not really... [02:31] Heh, and here I was feeling special :-) [02:32] bddebian: you'll always be special to me ;) [02:32] chillywilly: ;-P [02:32] you are in the ubuntu-dev team :) thats special... lots of MOTUs arent [02:32] i just sent out a mass mail... [02:32] ogra: Apparently only because they are lazy.. ;-P === bddebian hides again [02:32] heh [02:32] How do I know when/if I have upload rights? [02:33] ask elmo :) [02:33] Oh no [02:33] you mailed keyring@ ? [02:33] Hmm [02:33] like the Uploads wikipage says ? [02:34] Well I'm whitelisted, is that different? [02:34] yup [02:34] I'm all out of beer... :( [02:34] one is the keyring, one is for breezy-changes [02:35] or *-changes rather [02:35] chillywilly: d00d :'-( === bddebian is afraid of elmo [02:39] heh, everybody is it seems [02:39] :-) [02:39] but there is no need to :) [02:40] I'm kidding. === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-68.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] Lathiat: cool thanks, will look over it [03:21] Heya Mr. Main :-) === ajmitch does not answer to that name :P [03:22] either use Mr. Mitchell, or Sir ;) [03:22] Yes Sir, Mr. Mitchell Sir. ;-P === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] evening your sirness [03:30] ...and bddebian [03:30] Heh, heya bmonty [03:31] how's it going? [03:32] Fair to midland. You? [03:33] got some new bruises, flag football started tonight :) [03:33] bruises from flag football? ;-) [03:33] hi bmonty === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.222.14.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Heya rbelem [03:34] some folks have a hard time learning the difference between flag and real football [03:34] ajmitch: The meeting is 22:00 tomorrow? [03:34] hi bddebian ;-) [03:34] bmonty: :-) [03:34] hey ajmitch [03:34] hi all [03:36] bddebian: yep [03:36] 22:00 UTC [03:37] if I install gcc-4.0 shouldn't it install the C++ compiler? [03:37] ajmitch: Shix, that is really a bad time :-( [03:38] bddebian: fine for me :) [03:38] bmonty: no, why would it? [03:38] bmonty: apt-get install build-essential :-) [03:38] you'd want g++-4.0 for that [03:39] ajmitch: yeah, I thought that the gcc package would pull that in for me...build-essential did the trick [03:39] that is one of those things you do once a long time ago and forget about :( [03:39] looking at bugs on Malone is a PITA [03:39] build-essential will always be on a chroot or pbuilder [03:40] yeah, that is why my pbuilder worked without problems === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] hey bradb [03:42] hey ajmitch [03:43] bradb: is there a list where watched bugs show up? [03:43] since I only see assigned bugs on malone, not ones I'm watching === ajmitch did a quick scan for it in the malone bug list [03:43] ajmitch: The "watch" subscription is going away. [03:43] ok [03:43] CC: bugs will show, or not yet? [03:44] fyi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMaloneUsage - make any suggestions you think are worthwhile :) [03:44] ajmitch: There's no way to list bugs you're Cc'd to, but that's an interesting idea. [03:44] right [03:44] ajmitch: Will you miss "Watch" if it goes away, btw? [03:44] because I'd like to leave universe bugs assigned to MOTU team [03:45] so that followups & activity go to the universe-bugs list [03:45] currently I'm only watching one bug :) [03:45] ajmitch: bradb is Malone expert? [03:45] bddebian: bradb is malone developer [03:46] Wow, nice bradb [03:46] all your bugs are belong to me [03:46] :P === bddebian assigns all MOTU bugs to bradb [03:46] bradb: we've seen it come a long way, it's looking nice [03:46] :-) [03:46] heh [03:46] ajmitch: that's good to hear from you guys [03:47] Any thoughts on main bugs in Malone? I'm looking at two more. :-( [03:47] we'll start filing the feature requests, like complex queries, saving searches, etc :) [03:47] ajmitch: currently only watching one bug...that's an interesting observation [03:47] bradb: I've not been using malone too much [03:47] and we're trying to sort out policies for using it in universe === ajmitch didn't see any point in watching others, if 'watch' doesn't do much [03:48] bddebian: What about main bugs in Malone? Are they already there and you're wondering what to do with them, or are you wondering when main bugs can start being filed in Malone? [03:48] ajmitch: right [03:48] bradb: Several are already there. I have 3 open atm. [03:48] bddebian: how we use malone, is up to us [03:48] bddebian: bugs in malone itself, are bradb territory [03:49] I know but no-one else gives me any answers except you and I'm tired of bothering your poor ass ;-) [03:49] bddebian: that's because few other MOTUs seriously use malone [03:50] bradb: any news on the email interface, for things like mass-filing? [03:50] bradb: we discussed it a little at UDU, things like big library transitions [03:50] bddebian: Your main bugs spilling over into Malone is part of a secret conspiracy to get more and more main maintainers using Malone. [03:50] there's also neat features in debbugs now, like usertags and bugs blocking others [03:51] bddebian: You could actually re-file the bug in Bugzilla and "watch" it from Malone, but I'm trying to think of what would give you the inspiration to want to do that. [03:51] bradb: main developers don't watch malone much yet [03:51] they want all their bugs they care about in 1 place [03:52] ajmitch: Have you seen https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc ? [03:52] ajmitch: right, i can imagine [03:52] after a bit more usage of malone, I've come up with a few of these things I want :) [03:53] so that we can move away from using the wiki for organising such things [03:53] whoa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList seems to have grown since I last looked [03:54] ah, that's the place for me to add stuff.. [03:54] unless you want them filed in malone itself? [03:55] Filing in Malone seems appropriate, if you have a more concrete suggestion. [03:55] certainly [03:55] Which you probably often do. [03:55] I'll spend some time in the weekend writing up some suggestions then [03:56] anything to streamline our workflow is good :) [03:57] bradb: I tried that and go in trouble. I "moved" few bugs to bugzilla yesterday. [03:57] 1.0 is just around the corner, so the more you guys can tell us about what you'd like, and what will make you really happy with Malone, the smoother that transition can be. [03:57] s/go/got/ [03:57] bddebian: What kind of trouble? [03:58] bradb: they were bazaar bugs [03:58] filed against ubuntu bazaar, so bddebian closed them on malone [04:00] This kind of confusion might be hard to avoid in the time period leading up to the transition. Probably not worth you guys spending much time on worrying about it. If you want to keep everything in Bugzilla, re-filing it in bugzilla and rejecting the bug in Malone with a message like "main bug moved into bugzilla" is probably an ok thing to do. [04:01] Transition of what? If everything is moving to Malone, I might as well leave them eh? [04:01] ajmitch: Feel free to pimp the email UI to other MOTUers if you like it. It hasn't had a lot of user testing yet. [04:02] bradb: so the email UI is active now? [04:02] bddebian: yes, you could leave them in Malone. (transition == main grandfathering the bugzilla instance, and going full-steam-ahead with Malone.) [04:02] ajmitch: yes [04:03] it accepts multiple commands per line, I assume? [04:03] bah [04:03] per email [04:03] yes [04:03] great [04:04] how about the xml-rpc or equivalant interface? any progress on that front? [04:04] not yet. that's a while off yet, i think [04:04] we want to focus on the interface you can *see* at the moment :) [04:05] understandable :) [04:05] I see on https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterface there is a mode for editing multiple bugs in one email [04:06] I've drawn a bullseye around the idea of people blogging about how smoothly the Malone UI Just Works. [04:06] ajmitch: Feel like uploading while we're talking? ;-) [04:06] ajmitch: Yes, all kinds of stunts are possible. ;) [04:06] bddebian: maybe ;) [04:06] bradb: ok, great === jsgotangco blogs [04:07] heh [04:07] hopefully we'll get to meet again at UBZ in november [04:07] and talk about some of this there [04:07] ajmitch: I live in Montreal. Will you be at UBZ? [04:07] hoping to get sponsored [04:07] ah, cool [04:08] yeah, since I live in NZ it might be a challenge [04:08] ajmitch: What are you pimping? [04:08] grooviness [04:08] general MOTUness, mono, selinux stuff [04:09] my main targets at the moment :) [04:09] are we aiming selinux for +1? [04:09] ajmitch: Good luck, it'd be great to have you here. [04:09] I think some command line scripts to handle common bug tasks via email might be in order === ajmitch will add them to his scripts bazaar-ng repo [04:10] jsgotangco: I'll certainly try [04:10] jsgotangco: it's in better shape in debian now [04:10] in sid? [04:10] yep [04:11] more core apps (coreutils, dpkg, etc) are patched to use selinux [04:11] selinux would be ideal for a 5 year support scheme [04:11] the main one I'm waiting on is PAM [04:11] since debian's version trails upstream by a few versions [04:11] and the current redhat patches are in upstream now [04:12] I'd need to backport that mess into pam 0.76, which just didn't happen for breezy [04:12] fedora still leads on this regard right? [04:12] yes [04:12] redhat employs a few people just for selinux [04:12] and fedora is their playground === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] ahh that's understandable [04:13] they get stuff stablised there before it gets into RHEL [04:17] well you can always use ubuntu as your playground and sell your selinux verison =) [04:17] hehe [04:19] ajmitch, are you speaking in LCA? [04:19] jsgotangco: nah [04:20] hopefully russell coker will come over from .au [04:20] he's a good sort, one of the RH employees === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.222.14.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] RH has an office in brisbane right? [04:21] they do? [04:22] i know they have an office somewhere in au [04:23] yeah, they do [04:23] bddebian: looking at endeavour debdiff [04:23] that was a nice & simple one to look at.. [04:25] ajmitch: You ROCK [04:25] ajmitch: Reject bug #911? [04:25] Looks like UTS problem to me [04:26] uh, that's not quite coherent :) [04:26] The bug or my comment? :-) [04:27] the bug === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-68.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] looks to be a bug in ttf-indic-fonts [04:27] Looks like PBKAC ;-) [04:28] since it's the postinst for that package which was choking dpkg [04:28] that package is in main [04:28] Grrr [04:29] so it could be NOTABUG :) [04:31] Is libffi4-dev a replacement for libffi2-dev? I don't see a Replaces: ? [04:32] bddebian: you don't just add in a Replaces for lib packages [04:33] since the API probably changed, and the ABI definitely changed [04:33] Well I meant I don't see a replacement with apt-get -d install :-) === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-68.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] bddebian: yes, because you shouldn't :) [04:35] packages have to be updated to use libffi4 [04:35] like ctypes [04:35] which I am working on [04:35] Gah, I was just workingon that damn you :-) [04:35] sorry [04:35] I already built a package & am testing it [04:35] Are you doing it for UnmetDeps or for bug 1827 or both? [04:35] I didn' spot it on the wiki, just on malone [04:36] Ahh :-) [04:36] well it's the same problem :P [04:36] so it's obviously both [04:36] if you saw universe-bugs, you would have seen me take it :) [04:36] it would be a PITA, but wouldn't it be nice if all the unmet deps were in Malone? [04:36] bmonty: yes, we talked about that [04:36] I meant where did you see it and you already answered that :-) [04:37] it's one of our goals for using malone [04:37] all transitions, etc should be in one place [04:37] and hopefully in a better format than the wiki provides :) [04:37] malone would give us nice searchable lists, etc [04:38] and if the malone crew implement things like bug X blocks/depends bug Y, then even better [04:38] Aye and a better way to see who is already doing them since SOME people don't update the wikis ;-P [04:38] bddebian: get over it [04:38] :P [04:40] what was the rationale for starting from scratch with Malone...why not the Debian BTS or sticking with Bugzilla? [04:43] malone is much more than just a basic bug tracker [04:43] its designed to track bugs accross multiple distributions, be integrated with bazaar etc, and integrated into launchpad as a whole [04:43] thats the plan anyway [04:43] makes sense [04:45] ajmitch: Do you know if gpib was dropped from Ubuntu? === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] Heya tritium === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-68.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] heya bddebian [04:47] ajmitch: Did the endeavour diff apply? dholbach had a problem with one of my earlier patches apparently [04:47] applied fine [04:47] haven't uploaded yet [04:48] NP, thx, just wanted to make sure I wasn't screwing something up again :-) [04:48] WTF is libglu-dev-xorg? [04:48] old [04:49] libglu1-mesa-dev now, iirc [04:49] So that's libglu1-mesa-dev | libglu-dev now? [04:49] :-) [04:49] I think so === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] to request a sync to debian, should I wait until the package is 100% in debian, or can I ask for one now? [05:05] jtan325: what do you mean, 100% in? [05:05] if it's not in the archive, you'd have to specify that [05:05] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] mine is "conky" [05:05] jtan325: and would this be importing a new version into breezy? [05:05] yes, brand-new package [05:06] uh.. [05:06] I doubt that elmo will sync from the NEW queue [05:06] and breaking UVF yourself by importing a new package would generally be frowned upon [05:07] sorry, i'm very n00bish, as you already know [05:07] UVF? [05:07] jtan325: Upstream Version Freeze [05:07] and this was just uploaded like yesterday [05:07] i got a debian sponsor and the whole shebang [05:07] a few weeks ago, when i asked should i upload to revu [05:07] siretart said it'd probably be "easier" 9whatever that means) to just upload into debian [05:08] and then ask him to request a sync [05:08] yes [05:08] i have no idea waht's going on, so i just did that [05:08] but we're not automatically pulling in new versions === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-194.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] fair enough [05:08] so what're the steps from here? [05:08] and what can I do? [05:08] wait for it to pass the NEW queue in debian [05:09] and we can look at syncing it then [05:09] ok. thanks ajmitch [05:09] slowly but surely, my first package ever is trucking along... [05:09]