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| Epix | I dont get what Edubuntu is for | 02:50 |
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| farruinn | has there been any consideration to include BlueJ as an educational java IDE? We use it at my school here and it's quite nice for beginning students (no frills -> allows students to focus on learning programming and not an IDE) | 04:11 |
| farruinn | I don't know what sort of restrictions there may be on including it since it's a java app | 04:12 |
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| JaneW | morning | 08:27 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 08:30 |
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| JaneW | hi stupid question, to which I think the answer is yes.... will ed/ubuntu 5.10 ship with Gnome 2.12? | 09:00 |
| jsgotangco | of course | 09:06 |
| jsgotangco | it already has | 09:06 |
| JaneW | thought so - cool thanks | 09:07 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: ping | 10:15 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: what time are the main festivities happening for SFD at Canal Walk? I want to try to get there, but am trying to co-ordinate around a flood of kiddie birthday parties... | 10:16 |
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| magnon | morning! | 11:30 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: starting 9am | 01:23 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: ta... ending? | 01:30 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: will there be anything going on after 13:30? | 01:30 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: damn kids parties! | 01:31 |
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| === JaneW wants to harrass ppl in Ubuntu t-shirt! | ||
| jsgotangco | gaaahhhh | 01:56 |
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| ogra | jsgotangco, ?? | 01:56 |
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| jsgotangco | ive been cleaning up the docs | 01:56 |
| jsgotangco | mdz began to bug about it | 01:56 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm the build works great btw | 01:57 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 02:02 |
| JaneW | what's the lowest spec machines that can comfortably run edubuntu? (client not server) | 02:14 |
| ogra | 64MB 200Mhz ? | 02:14 |
| ogra | (thats a guess) | 02:15 |
| ogra | might work with less... | 02:15 |
| ogra | but i guess below 48MB memory on the thin client you get problems | 02:16 |
| ogra | JaneW, or did you mean the workstation version ? | 02:17 |
| JaneW | yes thin client | 02:18 |
| JaneW | from an e-mail recievde | 02:19 |
| ogra | i think cpu wise you can go down to 133Mhz ... but highvoltage would be better for an answer here... | 02:19 |
| JaneW | Most workstations are XP or WIN98 -based but the school also has a number of early X86 and PowerPC G3 workstations; it is these that I believe would benefit from EduBuntu. | 02:19 |
| JaneW | 02:19 | |
| JaneW | I have experimented with Ubuntu on several X86 PCs; honestly, the system requirements for Ubuntu are too high for me to use on the older PCs. | 02:19 |
| JaneW | These workstations range from 166, 200 and 233 MHz units with 64 Meg RAM and small (<1 Gig) hard drives. | 02:19 |
| JaneW | I expect that many schools have equipment that is of this generation or older! | 02:19 |
| JaneW | Is there a distribution of Ubuntu that will bring new life to these old workhorses? | 02:19 |
| ogra | sounds ok... | 02:19 |
| JaneW | they should be fine with Edubuntu right? | 02:19 |
| ogra | (the specs) | 02:20 |
| ogra | yup... as thin clients they are good... | 02:20 |
| JaneW | we should actually mention spec on our wiki page and that lower range machines can work (as thin clients) | 02:20 |
| JaneW | great thanks | 02:20 |
| ogra | JaneW, to make up real specs i'd need a real LAB ;) | 02:22 |
| JaneW | :P | 02:22 |
| JaneW | don;t you have one there? | 02:22 |
| JaneW | I imiagne you in a white coat | 02:23 |
| JaneW | with your hair flying loose | 02:23 |
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| ogra | haha | 02:24 |
| ogra | JaneW, i have an old crappy comapq workstation as testserver and abuse my laptop as client... | 02:25 |
| ogra | JaneW, that urgently needs to change for breezy+1, i will need some more clients etc... | 02:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: noted | 02:26 |
| ogra | i think we'll have to talkj to sabdfl at UBZ | 02:27 |
| JaneW | nod | 02:33 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra, is there a chance the client can't connect at all and goes into busybox? | 02:42 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, when ? | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | just now | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | one client did | 02:42 |
| ogra | haha | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | now all the clients won't connect | 02:43 |
| ogra | before or after login | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | not even with the login! | 02:43 |
| ogra | did you see a login screen ? | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | nada | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | it goes into an nfs thing | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | i expected a timeout | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | but now everyone goes into busybox | 02:43 |
| ogra | with a kernel panic ? | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | yeah if i mess soemthing up in the prompt | 02:44 |
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| ogra | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12942 | 02:44 |
| ogra | boot a second time.... | 02:44 |
| jsgotangco | i've seen that | 02:44 |
| ogra | we try to track this since a while | 02:44 |
| jsgotangco | booting the second time won't do anything either | 02:44 |
| ogra | hmm, works here and for all other testers apparently... | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | strange | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmmm | 02:45 |
| ogra | you did see the kernel boot ? and it stopped at nfs-{top,bottom} ? | 02:46 |
| jsgotangco | hmmmm | 02:46 |
| jsgotangco | i belive the kernel booted | 02:47 |
| jsgotangco | i'll go back to it | 02:47 |
| JaneW | I just got new edubuntu-devel e-mail from Monday!? | 02:47 |
| jsgotangco | monday? | 02:48 |
| JaneW | yep | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | who is monday | 02:50 |
| JaneW | *thwap* | 02:50 |
| ogra | heh | 02:50 |
| JaneW | from Oliver, Doug and Dave :P | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | oh | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | you meant its a late email | 02:50 |
| ogra | who are doug and dave ? | 02:51 |
| ogra | i dont have mails from them... | 02:53 |
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| JaneW | From: doug vega <doug_vega@yahoo.ca> | 03:00 |
| JaneW | To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:00 |
| JaneW | Subject: lite w/s profile | 03:00 |
| JaneW | Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:50:12 -0400 (EDT) (16:50 SAST) | 03:00 |
| JaneW | From: cormier@edactive.com | 03:00 |
| JaneW | To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:00 |
| JaneW | Subject: edubuntu meanderings | 03:00 |
| JaneW | Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 02:57:13 +0900 (KST) (Mon, 19:57 SAST) | 03:00 |
| ogra | hmm, nope | 03:00 |
| JaneW | these arrived here like 10 mins ago - odd.... | 03:01 |
| ogra | the latter one i have.... | 03:01 |
| ogra | but nothing from doug vega | 03:01 |
| JaneW | you did reply though ;) | 03:01 |
| JaneW | From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> | 03:01 |
| JaneW | To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:01 |
| JaneW | Subject: Re: lite w/s profile | 03:01 |
| JaneW | Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:58:09 +0200 | 03:01 |
| JaneW | I'll stop doing that now | 03:01 |
| ogra | huh ? | 03:02 |
| JaneW | in case I get kicked and banned | 03:02 |
| JaneW | pasting stuff... | 03:02 |
| ogra | oh, now i see it... my evo is broken it seems... | 03:02 |
| ogra | i should update more often :) | 03:03 |
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| jsgotangco | i gotta crash | 03:15 |
| jsgotangco | laters | 03:15 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, any news about the thin client ? | 03:16 |
| highvoltage | are html mails completely removed from the thunderbird in ubuntu? | 03:16 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, i'll test it out again later, i'm just too tired atm | 03:16 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, oki | 03:16 |
| jsgotangco | i'll give you an update | 03:16 |
| ogra | oing me if you need help | 03:17 |
| ogra | or ping even | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i just have to sort out this stuff in svn by today | 03:17 |
| ogra | highvoltage, no idea, i never used it | 03:17 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: not afaik... it can be set... | 03:25 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: I started with Thunderbird on windows and changed to evolution (also on windows) and then migrated to Ubuntu.. | 03:26 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: I was posting html mail until mdz politely told me to stop ;) | 03:26 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: I started with perdepos (pegasus mail), then moved to yebo!mail, then outlook express, then pocomail, then evolution, then thunderbird, then back to evolution, and now back on thunderbird :) | 03:27 |
| JaneW | are you confussed or what!? | 03:28 |
| JaneW | thunderbird was ok, but I hated that it had no built in (or even good plug-in) calendar | 03:28 |
| JaneW | and I need a calendar | 03:28 |
| JaneW | so evolution suits me much beter | 03:28 |
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| JaneW | decides even | 03:29 |
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| highvoltage | i used evolution when i needed a calender, so now that i don't need all the fancy stuff that evo has i use thunderbird again. | 03:34 |
| highvoltage | one thing that sucks a bit, the only program i can sync my phone calender with in linux is Korganiser. | 03:35 |
| ogra | highvoltage, poke chmj, he does the bluetooth stuff :) | 03:36 |
| highvoltage | ogra: my bluetooth works fine, my phone sends .vcs files to the laptop, but only kde's stuff seems to be opening .vcs files. | 03:38 |
| ogra | hmm, evo imports vcf ... can you convert it ? | 03:39 |
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| JaneW | wow... | 03:58 |
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| highvoltage | ogra? | 04:13 |
| highvoltage | oh he's gone | 04:13 |
| JaneW | he'll be bcak | 04:13 |
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