=== fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.4.81] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E781.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.4.81] has left #edubuntu [] === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.4.81] has joined #edubuntu === Epix [n=eevench@Ottawa-HSE-ppp259172.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [02:50] I dont get what Edubuntu is for === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === farruinn [n=farruinn@cpe-69-201-13-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:11] has there been any consideration to include BlueJ as an educational java IDE? We use it at my school here and it's quite nice for beginning students (no frills -> allows students to focus on learning programming and not an IDE) [04:12] I don't know what sort of restrictions there may be on including it since it's a java app === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@201-1-132-73.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [08:27] morning [08:30] hey === mpt [n=mpt@201-1-132-73.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [09:00] hi stupid question, to which I think the answer is yes.... will ed/ubuntu 5.10 ship with Gnome 2.12? [09:06] of course [09:06] it already has [09:07] thought so - cool thanks [10:15] highvoltage: ping [10:16] highvoltage: what time are the main festivities happening for SFD at Canal Walk? I want to try to get there, but am trying to co-ordinate around a flood of kiddie birthday parties... === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [11:30] morning! === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === sivang is now known as sivang_i386_inst [01:23] JaneW: starting 9am === downclimb^ [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu [01:30] highvoltage: ta... ending? [01:30] highvoltage: will there be anything going on after 13:30? [01:31] highvoltage: damn kids parties! === sivang_i386_inst is now known as sivang === JaneW wants to harrass ppl in Ubuntu t-shirt! [01:56] gaaahhhh === jsgotangco dies [01:56] jsgotangco, ?? === mpt [n=mpt@201-1-132-73.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [01:56] ive been cleaning up the docs [01:56] mdz began to bug about it [01:57] hmmm the build works great btw [02:02] thanks :) [02:14] what's the lowest spec machines that can comfortably run edubuntu? (client not server) [02:14] 64MB 200Mhz ? [02:15] (thats a guess) [02:15] might work with less... [02:16] but i guess below 48MB memory on the thin client you get problems [02:17] JaneW, or did you mean the workstation version ? [02:18] yes thin client [02:19] from an e-mail recievde [02:19] i think cpu wise you can go down to 133Mhz ... but highvoltage would be better for an answer here... [02:19] Most workstations are XP or WIN98 -based but the school also has a number of early X86 and PowerPC G3 workstations; it is these that I believe would benefit from EduBuntu. [02:19] [02:19] I have experimented with Ubuntu on several X86 PCs; honestly, the system requirements for Ubuntu are too high for me to use on the older PCs. [02:19] These workstations range from 166, 200 and 233 MHz units with 64 Meg RAM and small (<1 Gig) hard drives. [02:19] I expect that many schools have equipment that is of this generation or older! [02:19] Is there a distribution of Ubuntu that will bring new life to these old workhorses? [02:19] sounds ok... [02:19] they should be fine with Edubuntu right? [02:20] (the specs) [02:20] yup... as thin clients they are good... [02:20] we should actually mention spec on our wiki page and that lower range machines can work (as thin clients) [02:20] great thanks [02:22] JaneW, to make up real specs i'd need a real LAB ;) [02:22] :P [02:22] don;t you have one there? [02:23] I imiagne you in a white coat [02:23] with your hair flying loose === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [02:24] haha [02:25] JaneW, i have an old crappy comapq workstation as testserver and abuse my laptop as client... [02:25] JaneW, that urgently needs to change for breezy+1, i will need some more clients etc... [02:26] ogra: noted [02:27] i think we'll have to talkj to sabdfl at UBZ [02:33] nod === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [02:42] ogra, is there a chance the client can't connect at all and goes into busybox? [02:42] jsgotangco, when ? [02:42] just now [02:42] one client did [02:42] haha [02:43] now all the clients won't connect [02:43] before or after login [02:43] not even with the login! [02:43] did you see a login screen ? [02:43] nada [02:43] it goes into an nfs thing [02:43] i expected a timeout [02:43] but now everyone goes into busybox [02:43] with a kernel panic ? [02:44] yeah if i mess soemthing up in the prompt === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:44] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12942 [02:44] boot a second time.... [02:44] i've seen that [02:44] we try to track this since a while [02:44] booting the second time won't do anything either [02:45] hmm, works here and for all other testers apparently... [02:45] strange [02:45] hrmmmm [02:46] you did see the kernel boot ? and it stopped at nfs-{top,bottom} ? [02:46] hmmmm [02:47] i belive the kernel booted [02:47] i'll go back to it [02:47] I just got new edubuntu-devel e-mail from Monday!? [02:48] monday? [02:50] yep [02:50] who is monday [02:50] *thwap* [02:50] heh [02:50] from Oliver, Doug and Dave :P [02:50] oh [02:50] you meant its a late email [02:51] who are doug and dave ? [02:53] i dont have mails from them... === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #edubuntu [] [03:00] From: doug vega [03:00] To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [03:00] Subject: lite w/s profile [03:00] Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:50:12 -0400 (EDT) (16:50 SAST) [03:00] From: cormier@edactive.com [03:00] To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [03:00] Subject: edubuntu meanderings [03:00] Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 02:57:13 +0900 (KST) (Mon, 19:57 SAST) [03:00] hmm, nope [03:01] these arrived here like 10 mins ago - odd.... [03:01] the latter one i have.... [03:01] but nothing from doug vega [03:01] you did reply though ;) [03:01] From: Oliver Grawert [03:01] To: edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [03:01] Subject: Re: lite w/s profile [03:01] Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:58:09 +0200 [03:01] I'll stop doing that now [03:02] huh ? [03:02] in case I get kicked and banned [03:02] pasting stuff... [03:02] oh, now i see it... my evo is broken it seems... [03:03] i should update more often :) === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@201-1-132-73.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === guim_ [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [03:15] i gotta crash [03:15] laters [03:16] jsgotangco, any news about the thin client ? [03:16] are html mails completely removed from the thunderbird in ubuntu? [03:16] ogra, i'll test it out again later, i'm just too tired atm [03:16] jsgotangco, oki [03:16] i'll give you an update [03:17] oing me if you need help [03:17] or ping even [03:17] yeah i just have to sort out this stuff in svn by today [03:17] highvoltage, no idea, i never used it [03:25] highvoltage: not afaik... it can be set... [03:26] highvoltage: I started with Thunderbird on windows and changed to evolution (also on windows) and then migrated to Ubuntu.. [03:26] highvoltage: I was posting html mail until mdz politely told me to stop ;) [03:27] JaneW: I started with perdepos (pegasus mail), then moved to yebo!mail, then outlook express, then pocomail, then evolution, then thunderbird, then back to evolution, and now back on thunderbird :) [03:28] are you confussed or what!? [03:28] thunderbird was ok, but I hated that it had no built in (or even good plug-in) calendar [03:28] and I need a calendar [03:28] so evolution suits me much beter === JaneW dicided to go to gym again tonight - it's helping to destress me... [03:29] decides even === JaneW decides to enrol in a typing class! [03:34] i used evolution when i needed a calender, so now that i don't need all the fancy stuff that evo has i use thunderbird again. [03:35] one thing that sucks a bit, the only program i can sync my phone calender with in linux is Korganiser. [03:36] highvoltage, poke chmj, he does the bluetooth stuff :) [03:38] ogra: my bluetooth works fine, my phone sends .vcs files to the laptop, but only kde's stuff seems to be opening .vcs files. [03:39] hmm, evo imports vcf ... can you convert it ? === Seveaz [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu [03:58] wow... === JaneW 's ex boss just phoned [04:13] ogra? 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