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| \sh | Riddell: kdevelop3: kdevdesigner is not stopping from crashing...any idea? | 10:52 |
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| Tm_T | :o | 10:52 |
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| Riddell | \sh: hmm no, remind me about it post-preview | 11:46 |
| \sh | Riddell: i just installed the debug libs...lets see where it crashes | 11:47 |
| Riddell | \sh: could try compiling with gcc 3.4 | 11:47 |
| \sh | it worked for sometime | 11:48 |
| \sh | grmpf..need the qt dbgs as well ;) | 11:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: I can send the crash report via email... | 11:52 |
| Riddell | \sh: do you have amd64 or powerpc at all? | 12:07 |
| \sh | i386 only | 12:07 |
| Riddell | testers wanted for preview http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/ | 12:46 |
| \sh | downloading and testing later...I have to test it on the laptop :( | 12:48 |
| \sh | and have to tweak the initrd :( | 12:48 |
| Riddell | why do you have to tweak initrd? | 12:49 |
| \sh | i have to do a network install | 12:49 |
| \sh | and for this, I need a special marvel yukon driver, which is not in the kernel | 12:49 |
| \sh | sk98lin driver, the kernel provided skge doesn't support my NIC | 12:50 |
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| Riddell | sebas: got guidance working! | 03:44 |
| sebas | Riddell: Great! | 04:06 |
| sebas | Do you have the kcontrol entries? | 04:06 |
| sebas | I've been playing around with it yesterday, displayconfig seems to work (from kcontrol), the others not yet here. | 04:06 |
| sebas | Updated to breezy yesterday, though. | 04:07 |
| Riddell | sebas: displayconfig doesn't work at all for me, I get this error | 04:11 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/357985 | 04:11 |
| Riddell | the others I have to add this to the .desktop file Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system; | 04:11 |
| sebas | Riddell: Ah, you'd need the ldetect stuff. | 04:12 |
| sebas | Could you e-mail me the .desktop files? | 04:12 |
| Riddell | sebas: what's the ldetect stuff? | 04:12 |
| Riddell | sebas: .desktop files are just those in current SVN with that line at the bottom | 04:12 |
| sebas | pci device database. | 04:12 |
| Riddell | icons need to be available in more sizes | 04:14 |
| sebas | Hm, just adding the Categories line doesn't help here. | 04:14 |
| sebas | /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System/mountconfig.desktop | 04:14 |
| sebas | In that file, right? | 04:14 |
| Riddell | sebas: no, in /usr/share/applications/kde/mountconfig.desktop | 04:15 |
| Riddell | same file though | 04:15 |
| sebas | Ah, thx. | 04:15 |
| Riddell | sebas: could I get access to the SVN repository (probably for updating the debian directory)? | 04:17 |
| sebas | Riddell: I'm about to move it to kdesvn, do you have access there? | 04:17 |
| sebas | In the meantime, could you checkout and e-mail me the patch? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | sebas: I do. sorted. | 04:18 |
| sebas | I'll import it into kdesvn in the next days, though. | 04:18 |
| sebas | Have to clean up a couple of bits first :> | 04:18 |
| Riddell | no patch yet, but now that it's working I'll try and get it in the ubuntu archives | 04:18 |
| sebas | Cool :) | 04:18 |
| sebas | Hm, the mountconfig kcontrol module doesn't load, does it for you? | 04:20 |
| sebas | userconfig and serviceconfig do | 04:20 |
| Riddell | lo | 04:20 |
| Riddell | loads fine, it's a bit slow to load though | 04:20 |
| sebas | Hm, ok. | 04:21 |
| sebas | When did you update to latest svn? | 04:21 |
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| sebas | I've done some fixes in Spain that might be worth using | 04:21 |
| Riddell | sebas: serviceconfig and userconfig don't close when I click the window's X close button, mountconfig does (not running inside kcontrol) | 04:22 |
| sebas | caching of servicedescriptions for serviceconfig being one of them | 04:22 |
| sebas | Ok, I'll have a look. | 04:22 |
| Riddell | sebas: where are the service descriptions got from? | 04:23 |
| sebas | dpkg | 04:23 |
| Riddell | genius :) | 04:23 |
| sebas | It's a bit ugly, admittedly, but there are no (localized) generic descriptions available anywhere... | 04:24 |
| Riddell | still no way to tell if it's running I guess | 04:24 |
| sebas | Right. :( | 04:24 |
| sebas | At least for the services that don't leave a .pid file anywhere. | 04:24 |
| Riddell | I envision a post breezy ImproveInitScripts goal | 04:25 |
| sebas | Bounty!!! | 04:26 |
| sebas | :> | 04:26 |
| Riddell | yep :) | 04:26 |
| sebas | We'd like status and a localiz(ed|able) description for every service. | 04:26 |
| sebas | GST has the same description problem, but they didn't reply to my e-mails. | 04:27 |
| Riddell | sebas: any other plans you think we should try to make post-breezy goals? (which means they might get bountied) | 04:28 |
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| Riddell | any other guidance modules you think should be written? | 04:29 |
| Riddell | I think a graphical visudo would be good | 04:29 |
| sebas | Yeah, we'd need some powermanagement module (PM in kcontrol is bad crap atm), and a *good* keyboard config module. | 04:29 |
| sebas | Graphical visudo is more or less adding users to a certain group, right? | 04:30 |
| sebas | At least, you could do it that way ... | 04:30 |
| Riddell | yes, it would be nice if userconfig had tickboxes for "administrator" which would put them in the admin group (which by default has full sudo on kubuntu systems) | 04:31 |
| Riddell | but a graphical interface to the sudoers file would still be nice | 04:31 |
| sebas | Riddell: I've discussed that with Jan, a lot of the group stuff could be replaced by "[ ] Is allowed to burn CD", "[x] May gain root privileges", "[x] May use digital camera" and so on. | 04:32 |
| Riddell | sebas: yes! | 04:32 |
| Riddell | of course that starts to get more distribution specific but it would be a lot more logical to the user | 04:33 |
| sebas | Well, that's more or less on our "add to todolist list" :) | 04:33 |
| sebas | I'm awaiting Jan's final report, though. | 04:33 |
| sebas | Yeah, but it'd add a hell of a lot of fun :> | 04:33 |
| sebas | And it's quite easy to extend, just have some data structure which maps a sentence like that to a group a user can be added to. | 04:34 |
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| Riddell | sebas: how is the distribution detection done? the message "This could be a Debian GNU/Linux-based system. ( Ubuntu )" doesn't sound like it's very convinced | 04:35 |
| sebas | /etc/issue reveals that on most distros. | 04:36 |
| Riddell | /etc/lsb-release might be more reliable | 04:38 |
| sebas | I can add that. | 04:40 |
| sebas | Riddell: Seems that most distros don't have /etc/lsb-release | 04:49 |
| \sh | sebas: because most distris are not lsb compliant ,) | 04:50 |
| Riddell | sebas: tsk, don't these things know about standards | 04:50 |
| sebas | \sh: Yeah, I figured that already :> | 04:50 |
| Riddell | well give it a year or two and I assume they will | 04:50 |
| sebas | I can add a check, sure. | 04:51 |
| sebas | First I have to prepare my presentation for software freedom day and install this website for a customer. | 04:51 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: err installing kubuntu seems to have killed my mac, its making an extremly loud high pitched noise after it said it was about to reboot for the second part.... :-/ | 06:55 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: not a good sign | 07:12 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: it was just after it wrote the yaboot stuff and i think it may have rebooted before starting to make that noise | 07:47 |
| seaLne | it dosen't do anything when turned on except make the noise now | 07:47 |
| Riddell | seaLne: I'm installing now on an ibook and it's not getting that problem | 07:52 |
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| seaLne | lucky you | 07:54 |
| seaLne | :-/ | 07:54 |
| seaLne | this was an smp blue G4 | 07:55 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: is the machine dead beyond repair? | 08:38 |
| seaLne | well its certainly currently useless, and i don't see how to change that :-( | 08:44 |
| Riddell | seaLne: can it boot off another CD? | 08:44 |
| seaLne | no, it just dosen't do anything apart from make the deafening noise otherwise it appears dead | 08:46 |
| Riddell | crivvens, sounds like a fried firmware | 08:46 |
| Riddell | can you boot holding down control-apple-o-f to get to openfirmware? | 08:47 |
| seaLne | didn't try that, i'll try tommorow when i'm back in work | 08:48 |
| Riddell | or alt-apple-p-r should reload the openfirmware | 08:48 |
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