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| nalioth | libben: you have private messages | 12:06 |
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| libben | sorry =) yeah | 12:06 |
| libben | dident noticed u there | 12:06 |
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| libben | nalioth: | 12:19 |
| libben | now what =) | 12:19 |
| libben | its insatlled with dpkg -i file.deb | 12:19 |
| nalioth | libben: prefaced with "sudo" | 12:19 |
| libben | java -version says | java version "1.5.0_04" | Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_04-b05) | Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_04-b05, mixed mode, sharing) | 12:20 |
| libben | yeah i did sudo dpkg -i debfile | 12:20 |
| nalioth | libben: ok now try your cursed azureus | 12:20 |
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| libben | need to install it again theb | 12:21 |
| libben | then | 12:21 |
| libben | it was removed with a dep | 12:21 |
| libben | should i install azurus from the site? | 12:21 |
| libben | or with apt-get ? | 12:21 |
| nalioth | libben: how skilled are you at linux system administration? | 12:21 |
| libben | well i can pipe and grep, i can the installation process pretty good,... but building my own kernel and installing packages without deb is not my thing... tryed it a couple of times... need a teacher =) I wanna learn.. but its hard when ever u got stuck u ask for help.. u get the whole solution.. when u need a good tut or more explaining. | 12:24 |
| libben | ive spent many hours on reading mans.. but thats not easy for a noob either | 12:24 |
| nalioth | libben: got a simple solution | 12:25 |
| nalioth | libben: "checkinstall" | 12:25 |
| libben | whats that? | 12:25 |
| libben | program that builds debs from ppls bins ? | 12:25 |
| nalioth | nope | 12:27 |
| nalioth | it takes the place of "make install" in teh build process | 12:27 |
| nalioth | the debs it makes arent to debian standards, but they make it easy to remove/manipulate | 12:27 |
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| libben | why aint it debian standards? if it now makes debs =) good q i find it yes =) reading on the authors site right now. | 12:29 |
| nalioth | libben: it isnt debian standard, because then it'd be "dpkg-buildpackage" | 12:29 |
| libben | now its just dpkg -i | 12:29 |
| libben | ? | 12:30 |
| libben | so its really no diffrence ill take it. | 12:30 |
| nalioth | works the same as a debian standard deb | 12:31 |
| nalioth | but aint one | 12:31 |
| libben | k | 12:31 |
| libben | downloading the azureus tarball file from its homepage. | 12:31 |
| libben | think the process was something like, ./configure and make make install something... | 12:32 |
| libben | its says what i should do in the readme files? if there is one | 12:32 |
| nalioth | libben: correct | 12:33 |
| nalioth | except cursed java programs dont make or compile | 12:34 |
| libben | lol | 12:34 |
| libben | i just read it now | 12:34 |
| libben | lol | 12:34 |
| libben | so what this.. | 12:34 |
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| libben | i just extract it,.. and then run their script with ./azuerus? | 12:34 |
| libben | if ill understand it correctly | 12:34 |
| nalioth | libben: correct | 12:35 |
| libben | but when i installed it with the synaptic.. i could just typ azureus in terminal... and hit enter and it would start (err fail to start for me then *smiles*) how do i make this one to the whole system like that? | 12:35 |
| ToyMan | hmmm. what's the command line tool for exploring which packages you have installed? | 12:36 |
| libben | dpkg -l | 12:36 |
| ToyMan | i'm getting lazy | 12:36 |
| ToyMan | to much pointy clicky | 12:36 |
| ToyMan | thanks | 12:36 |
| libben | better use dpkg -l | grep package | 12:36 |
| libben | so u have a faster and clearer view | 12:36 |
| nalioth | libben azureus makes it diffecult | 12:36 |
| libben | like dpkg -l | grep sun for all the sun things that is installed | 12:36 |
| nalioth | libben: hint /usr/local/bin/ is in your $PATH | 12:37 |
| ToyMan | I'm getting all the debian and freebsd pkg commands crossed in my brain... | 12:37 |
| libben | nalioth k, thats the path for the whole system... that means what.. what should i do with it ? | 12:38 |
| libben | place a shortcut there ? | 12:38 |
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| nalioth | libben: that is not the path for the whole system. /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin and /bin/ are the systems folders | 12:38 |
| nalioth | libben: anything YOU compile, should go in /usr/local/ | 12:38 |
| libben | k, but i havent compiled azureus.. | 12:39 |
| libben | =) | 12:39 |
| libben | and its nothing to compile | 12:39 |
| nalioth | i do not recommend this for new users (whomoever may resemble that label) | 12:39 |
| nalioth | libben: but i placed my azureus folder inside /usr/local/bin | 12:39 |
| libben | yeah, i thaught about that too | 12:39 |
| libben | and it worked ? | 12:39 |
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| nalioth | yes, with some tweaking (see above: azureus makes it diffecult) | 12:40 |
| libben | k... | 12:41 |
| libben | so i should be happy with a shortcut in menu that just launches the ~./azureus | 12:41 |
| nalioth | libben: yes | 12:42 |
| libben | time to make a apps folder then and put it in there. | 12:42 |
| chx | Linux and nVidia rocks. There is hope that I'll find support for rotated display... | 12:46 |
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| chx | hi. with xine I get a blue background. googled. Added Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" to xorg.conf. Have GF4MX. What now :) ? | 01:00 |
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| chx | how can I change on the fly the bit depth? ie without restarting KDE? | 01:04 |
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| nikkia | gah | 01:14 |
| nikkia | i've just spent 3 hours trying to get emacs to handle comments the way i want | 01:14 |
| nikkia | what a pointless waste of time | 01:14 |
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| nalioth | nikkia: pointless? | 01:16 |
| nikkia | nalioth: well, i didn't succeed, and its all to avoid typing an extra '*' occasionally | 01:17 |
| nalioth | nikkia: the perfection is in the pursuit | 01:17 |
| nikkia | nalioth: not when it feels hopeless | 01:17 |
| nikkia | what annoys me the most, is i *HAD* this working on my knoppix system, so i know its possible | 01:17 |
| nikkia | but that was using 'happycoders' POS emacs scripts | 01:18 |
| nalioth | nikkia: so where is the .conf or .rc from teh knoppix box? | 01:18 |
| nikkia | and i refuse to install that just for one feature, when it makes so many other things go 'wrong' | 01:18 |
| nikkia | nalioth: oh, i have the scripts, just won't install them, problem is finding where in the scripts the comment handling is done | 01:18 |
| nikkia | happycoders is a HUGE package of 'developer settings' for emacs | 01:18 |
| nikkia | sadly, the bad outweighs the good, IMO | 01:18 |
| nalioth | nikkia: :( | 01:19 |
| nikkia | one thing the HC stuff does that i really hate, is mark all long lines as 'red for danger' | 01:19 |
| nalioth | danger danger? | 01:20 |
| nalioth | heh | 01:20 |
| nikkia | so you get lines you *can't* break, like literal strings, and they're all red because some asshat at HC thinks thats a bad programming practice | 01:20 |
| nalioth | nikkia: wow what a mouth :0 | 01:20 |
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| nikkia | nalioth: the issue boils down to this... | 01:21 |
| nikkia | i like my comments to be on lines like: "/***" "* This is a comment" "*" " */" | 01:21 |
| nikkia | emacs can auto-indent and format comment blocks, by pressing alt-J instead of return, but the default doesn't put that * in the start of a continued comment line | 01:22 |
| nalioth | ok | 01:22 |
| nikkia | the situation is made worse given that 'comment' is a totally useless search word on the net | 01:25 |
| nikkia | all it does, is matches a trillion useless blogs | 01:25 |
| nalioth | nikkia: yes it does | 01:26 |
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| nikkia | hmmm | 01:29 |
| nikkia | getting somewhere again | 01:29 |
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| koalah | any problems if I kynaptic gnome? | 01:32 |
| nikkia | bingo! got it! :) | 01:32 |
| koalah | have ke and dial-up | 01:33 |
| koalah | *kde | 01:33 |
| nikkia | koalah: no problems, it'll take a while tho | 01:33 |
| koalah | how large approx? | 01:33 |
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| koalah | lol | 01:34 |
| nikkia | somewhere around 50-100MB at a guess | 01:34 |
| koalah | if connection drops will it continue where it left off? | 01:34 |
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| nalioth | koalah: install "ubuntu-desktop" | 01:35 |
| nalioth | koalah: yes, if you lose connection, it will pick back up | 01:36 |
| koalah | cool | 01:36 |
| nikkia | nalioth: within limits | 01:36 |
| nalioth | nikkia: perfection is in the pursuit | 01:36 |
| nikkia | nalioth: i don't think apt-get always resumes the current download, but it will resume from the start of the last package, at worst case | 01:36 |
| nalioth | nikkia: koalah will not have to d/l all that has gone b4 | 01:37 |
| nikkia | nalioth: it CAN be a big deal on dialup tho, especially if you have cutoffs | 01:37 |
| nikkia | i had to give up on apt-get'ing OOo once for that reason, i couldn't complete one of the packages in the 2hrs before cutoff | 01:37 |
| nalioth | nikkia: ouch | 01:38 |
| nalioth | koalah: in that case, disrgard "ubuntu-desktop" | 01:38 |
| koalah | every 7 hours I drop, along with the annoying randoms :) | 01:38 |
| nikkia | nalioth: nah, ubuntu-desktop should be ok | 01:39 |
| koalah | it's frustrating to sau the least | 01:39 |
| nikkia | if it depends on anything BIG, like OOo, i think kubuntu-desktop has that anyway | 01:39 |
| nalioth | koalah: try gnome-desktop-environment | 01:39 |
| koalah | k | 01:39 |
| nalioth | koalah: i dont belive oOo is tacked onto that | 01:40 |
| nikkia | but on dialup, its unlikely you want *all* of gnome and its myriad of small utilities anyway :) | 01:40 |
| nalioth | koalah: so what nikkia is saying, is start synaptic and see what your gnome options are | 01:40 |
| nalioth | koalah: ubuntu-desktop WILL install oOo and other large things | 01:40 |
| koalah | just have kynaptic | 01:41 |
| koalah | k | 01:41 |
| nikkia | nalioth: basically, yeah, i'm advocating installing the basic gnome packages, then picking and choosing individual stuff, anything else will drive you mad on dialup | 01:41 |
| nalioth | koalah: kynaptic, synaptic, same thing | 01:41 |
| nalioth | nikkia: understood. did not know koalah was on a small pipe | 01:41 |
| nikkia | whooohooo!! | 01:42 |
| nikkia | one good thing came out of all my messing with emacs :) | 01:42 |
| nikkia | its now made it into my 'most used apps' list on the kde menu :) | 01:43 |
| nalioth | nikkia: perfection? | 01:43 |
| nikkia | been waiting weeks for that to happen, but sadly, i only start it once or twice a week usually | 01:43 |
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| nalioth | lots of things don't work the same on ppc kubuntu, i've found | 01:44 |
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| _mike | Hi, i installed KBFX to change my panel look in KDE...but it doesnt show up in any of my menus | 01:58 |
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| _mike | ... | 01:59 |
| chx | i spent hours with X restarting... | 01:59 |
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| yonkeltron | ok i cannot get k3b to work for some reason | 02:01 |
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| nalioth | yonkeltron: what errors does it give you? | 02:02 |
| yonkeltron | it says i need to run k3bsetup2 but i can't find it like normal and cannot run it from the system | 02:03 |
| yonkeltron | i need to burn an iso | 02:03 |
| yonkeltron | and i don't have alot of time | 02:03 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: did you try the k3bsetup2 from a terminal? | 02:04 |
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| hvm | i know this is not actually a linux problem but can someone help me to set up Kontact to send and receive mail properly? | 02:06 |
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| nalioth | hvm: i'm not familiar with kontact. i use t-bird | 02:07 |
| nalioth | hvm: should be fairly simple, what source is your email? | 02:07 |
| hvm | uh, gmail | 02:09 |
| nalioth | hvm: then log into your gmail account using a browser and there is a walkthrough on setting up your client | 02:11 |
| hvm | ok, 10x | 02:11 |
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| chx | does this http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 mean that the bug mentioned herein is fixed in breezy? or is there a way to get a fix for Hoary? "libqt3c102-mt is already the newest version" and I have exactly the same problem described here. | 02:21 |
| nalioth | chx: your bug is still on the loose | 02:23 |
| nalioth | chx: you're looking in the "resolution" field | 02:23 |
| chx | nalioth: look at the last comment | 02:25 |
| chx | please | 02:25 |
| chx | I was amazed when I first looked at the rotated screen though. Two thumbs up to nvidia and Linux. | 02:26 |
| nalioth | chx: yes i see it, but it is waiting on the pkg maintainer/bug squasher to integrate the fix | 02:26 |
| chx | i see... | 02:26 |
| nalioth | chx: when he does, it will be 'resolved' | 02:26 |
| chx | though configuring screen rotation requires a pretty solid googling skill | 02:27 |
| nalioth | chx: you've lost me on "screen rotation" | 02:27 |
| chx | i spent hours to find out that I want to include Option "RandRRotation" "on" in xorg.conf .... | 02:27 |
| chx | nalioth: I have a screen with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 and you can rotate the screen counterclockwise. X11 RandR extension handles stuff. kcontrol supports it. But you need that line in xorg.conf to work. | 02:29 |
| chx | landscape/portrait orientation change. portrait great for browsing and coding , landscape great for movies. | 02:29 |
| nalioth | chx: i have the same resolution screen. are you sayin when you rotate yours, it changes to 1050x1680 ? | 02:29 |
| nalioth | or is supposed to? | 02:29 |
| nalioth | ah ok | 02:29 |
| === nalioth is not up on all the fancy stuff | ||
| chx | nalioth: look into kcontrol , peripherals, display , you'll see a bunch of radio buttons in a group called orientation though for you , i guess, most will be disabled | 02:31 |
| nalioth | chx: yes, all will be disabled. (am in gnome atm, lol) | 02:31 |
| chx | ah, I see. | 02:31 |
| chx | i just checked the 180 degrees rotation. that's fun! | 02:32 |
| chx | http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/acer-ferrari_4005wlmi_pro-laptop-4-n2.htm now, this is quite a something. this 15.4" TFT has the same resolution as my 20" Dell... | 02:36 |
| nalioth | chx: makes for awful small icons and text, i'd imagine | 02:37 |
| nalioth | holy smokes! i think my dell 20" rotates | 02:37 |
| === nalioth will have to check it out later | ||
| chx | nalioth: 2005FPW -- welcome bro! :) | 02:38 |
| nalioth | dell 20 | 02:38 |
| chx | nalioth: yes but dell sells many 20" LCDs | 02:38 |
| nalioth | " was cheaper then the apple cinema display | 02:38 |
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| chx | nalioth: but otherwise the same as the apple cinema display. yes. that's it :) | 02:39 |
| nalioth | holy cow it does rotate | 02:39 |
| nalioth | chx: i've got it running out of my powermac | 02:39 |
| chx | nalioth: no wonder 'cos the only difference between the apple and the dell display is that dell choosen a backlight which is 50 nit or so lighter | 02:40 |
| nalioth | the reason was the $ | 02:40 |
| chx | http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2400&p=2 | 02:40 |
| nalioth | and dell comes with a 3 year warranty (apple warranty costs extra) | 02:40 |
| chx | exactly. I bought mine today for ~ $600 (I am in Hungary) which is way less than the ~$800 - $1000 usual price and the $1500 price Apple asks... | 02:41 |
| chx | i have not planned a monitor upgrade 'till Christmas but when I saw a 20" S-IPS panel with 3yrs warranty for 125000 HUF... | 02:42 |
| chx | I hoped I could buy a 19" PVA/MVA for 100 000 HUF ($500 approx). This is way , way better deal. I just check the Gladiator DVD on it and was blown away. | 02:43 |
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| nalioth | yes, they are nice displays | 02:45 |
| === nalioth is happy with his | ||
| === chx too! | ||
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| jcta | hello I need some help. I just instaled Kubuntu half an hour ago and i can't start Firefox | 02:48 |
| crimsun | did you install the 'mozilla-firefox' package? | 02:48 |
| Xorlev | Try running it from terminal | 02:48 |
| jcta | I get "comand nto found" | 02:50 |
| chavo | jcta, kubuntu doesn't come with firefox on a standard install | 02:54 |
| crimsun | you need to install the 'mozilla-firefox' package | 02:55 |
| jcta | So, I have to install it | 02:55 |
| jcta | I'm downloading Firefox with Kynaptic, Tank you | 02:59 |
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| koalah | how do I change the screen resolution of blackbox? | 03:00 |
| chx | anyone tried Adept on Hoary? | 03:02 |
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| anaccount | hello everyone | 03:16 |
| anaccount | does anyone know where i can obtain a kubuntu/ubuntu package of pyqt? | 03:16 |
| nalioth | anaccount: use synaptic | 03:16 |
| nalioth | anaccount: or kynaptic | 03:17 |
| anaccount | what package though | 03:17 |
| nalioth | anaccount: search in synaptic (pkg names and contents) for pyqt | 03:18 |
| anaccount | python-qt3 ... is that what I should install | 03:19 |
| nalioth | anaccount: yup, sounds good | 03:19 |
| anaccount | ill try it | 03:19 |
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| anaccount | lol | 03:20 |
| anaccount | You need PyQt to use Aero AIO configuration utility | 03:20 |
| anaccount | I keep getting that | 03:20 |
| anaccount | even though i just installed that package | 03:21 |
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| anaccount | nalioth still getting the same shitty errors | 03:27 |
| nalioth | anaccount: are you trying to run or compile? | 03:28 |
| anaccount | i just installed via apt-get | 03:28 |
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| grill | hello everyone | 03:28 |
| anaccount | whats up grill | 03:28 |
| nalioth | anaccount: try this one python2.3-qt3 | 03:28 |
| grill | what are we doing? | 03:29 |
| nalioth | anaccount: and this one: (you can have more than one onboard) python2.4-qt3 | 03:29 |
| nalioth | grill: marrying python to qt | 03:29 |
| nalioth | grill: so something will work | 03:29 |
| grill | oh :( | 03:29 |
| grill | i just installed all the libs and devs | 03:30 |
| anaccount | you know ill try the 2.4 one | 03:31 |
| anaccount | still get the same shit errors | 03:33 |
| anaccount | do I have to restart | 03:33 |
| grill | you shouldn't unless it tells you to | 03:34 |
| anaccount | im trying to configure a superkaramba module | 03:34 |
| grill | what one? | 03:34 |
| anaccount | and when i try to configure it it keeps telling me that I need pyqt | 03:34 |
| anaccount | aero all in one | 03:34 |
| anaccount | for the newest karamba | 03:35 |
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| anaccount | superkaramba that is | 03:35 |
| grill | did you get it from kde.looking? | 03:35 |
| anaccount | think so | 03:35 |
| anaccount | kde-look | 03:36 |
| anaccount | the module is from there | 03:36 |
| grill | apt-get has it too have you tried that? | 03:36 |
| nalioth | anaccount: a lot of that stuff takes tweaking (other than the stuff avail via the repos) | 03:36 |
| anaccount | what takes tweaking | 03:36 |
| anaccount | apt get has what grill | 03:36 |
| grill | superkaramba | 03:37 |
| anaccount | superkaramba in repo is .36 | 03:37 |
| anaccount | i use .37 | 03:37 |
| grill | oh okay | 03:37 |
| anaccount | what should I do | 03:38 |
| anaccount | ? | 03:38 |
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| grill | i'd do a search on google and see if you can find the dep your missing | 03:39 |
| anaccount | its only pyqt | 03:39 |
| anaccount | everything else is fine | 03:39 |
| chavo | anaccount, try python-qt-dev | 03:40 |
| anaccount | got it already | 03:40 |
| grill | pyqt-tools? | 03:41 |
| anaccount | not that | 03:41 |
| chavo | no | 03:41 |
| chavo | I built it without that | 03:41 |
| chavo | anaccount, python2.4-qt3 ? | 03:42 |
| anaccount | got it | 03:42 |
| chavo | python2.4 not 2.3 right? | 03:43 |
| anaccount | I installed both | 03:44 |
| chavo | me too | 03:44 |
| chavo | hmmm you've got python2.4-dev correct? | 03:45 |
| nalioth | anaccount: since you are using an advanced SK, you probably dont have the libs you need | 03:46 |
| nalioth | anaccount: you'll probably have to compile the ones you need | 03:46 |
| chavo | I've built 3.7 | 03:46 |
| anaccount | fuck it | 03:49 |
| anaccount | all that work for nothing | 03:49 |
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| h17m4n | how do I check where kwin-baghira was installed? | 03:50 |
| grill | anaccount: you'll get the dep somewhere along the way | 03:50 |
| grill | h17m4n: do a file search | 03:51 |
| chavo | h17m4n, waht exactly do you need to know? | 03:51 |
| nalioth | h17m4n: dpkg -l <pkgname> | 03:52 |
| MCCPicky | have just been trying without success to get a swansmart turbo modem up and running in knoppix 3.8, i've given up and am now install kubuntu in the hope that will work | 03:52 |
| nalioth | h17m4n: that is an lowercase L not a one | 03:52 |
| h17m4n | well I ran sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira | 03:52 |
| h17m4n | it installed | 03:52 |
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| h17m4n | but it's not in the theme manager | 03:52 |
| chavo | h17m4n, baghira is a windeco not a theme | 03:52 |
| nalioth | anaccount: what language is that? | 03:53 |
| chavo | a theme consists of windeco, style, color scheme, wallpaper, icons, etc. | 03:53 |
| chavo | go to Appearance and Themes -> Window Decorations | 03:53 |
| h17m4n | windeco? and how do I make it run? | 03:54 |
| h17m4n | k | 03:54 |
| h17m4n | thx | 03:54 |
| chavo | windeco = WIndow Decoration | 03:54 |
| h17m4n | wow | 03:54 |
| h17m4n | nice I found it | 03:54 |
| h17m4n | thx man | 03:54 |
| grill | okay i'm off to bed nice meeting ya'll | 03:56 |
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| yonkeltron | nalioth: SYN | 04:23 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: what? | 04:23 |
| yonkeltron | nalioth: i am back...sorry for the delay. i did try to run k3bsetup2 from a terminal along with K3bsetup2 | 04:24 |
| yonkeltron | it's not installed and not available in the repos | 04:24 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: my k3b runs just fine as installed by apt | 04:25 |
| yonkeltron | yeah but i am told that cdrecord doesn't have the proper permissions when i try to burn something and that i should run K3bsetup2 to correct the issue | 04:26 |
| yonkeltron | this has happened to me before on debian when first using the system | 04:26 |
| yonkeltron | but there was an option to run setup | 04:26 |
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| nalioth | you installed cdrecord via apt? | 04:30 |
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| yonkeltron | don't think so | 04:30 |
| yonkeltron | i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu | 04:30 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: remove cdrecord and reinstall it | 04:32 |
| yonkeltron | sure thing | 04:33 |
| yonkeltron | am i purging or just removing? | 04:33 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | how do a choose a theme for kdm instead of just a wallpaper? | 04:34 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: purging if you like | 04:34 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | actually..right now i chose a wallpaper and it won't show up..just a grey background with the login prompt in the middle | 04:34 |
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| yonkeltron | nalioth: it wants to take out gcombust k3b kubuntu-desktop nautilus-cd-burner ubuntu-desktop as well.....i don't know if that's the best idea | 04:35 |
| yonkeltron | maybe i should just dpkg-reconfigure it | 04:35 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: go ahead | 04:36 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: take em all out | 04:36 |
| yonkeltron | for real? | 04:36 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: we'll fix it in a minute | 04:36 |
| yonkeltron | ok | 04:36 |
| yonkeltron | gotcha | 04:36 |
| yonkeltron | (new to ubuntu but a veteran of debian) | 04:36 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: ubuntu is debian (in a slightly more friendly package) | 04:37 |
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| yonkeltron | yeah i am seeing that sorta | 04:38 |
| yonkeltron | nalioth: ok mate it's all out | 04:39 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: now install cdrecord (or whatever the file was that was giving you errors) | 04:40 |
| yonkeltron | shall i put them all back in or just cdrecord? | 04:40 |
| nalioth | try just cdrecord | 04:40 |
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| yonkeltron | nalioth: testing now | 04:47 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: did it isntall most of that stuff back? | 04:48 |
| yonkeltron | nalioth: k3b only | 04:48 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: make sure you have kubuntu- and ubuntu- desktop(s) installed b4 you upgrade to breezy | 04:49 |
| frank23 | nalioth: why both? | 04:50 |
| MCCPicky | unable to open modem (ttys0) swansmart turbo, any help please | 04:50 |
| yonkeltron | nalioth: no good.....can't unlock the cd drive | 04:50 |
| nalioth | frank23: because yonkeltron had both b4 we ripped em loose | 04:51 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: can you paste the error in #flood or in a pastebin? (let me know which) | 04:51 |
| yonkeltron | let me start k3b form a terminal and see what comes up | 04:53 |
| yonkeltron | nalioth: it will be in #flood | 04:53 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: that's pretty weird | 04:56 |
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| nalioth | yonkeltron: what does your sources.list look like? | 04:57 |
| yonkeltron | ummm | 04:57 |
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| yonkeltron | shall i paste it? | 04:57 |
| nalioth | please do | 04:58 |
| yonkeltron | pasted | 04:58 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: i'm out of my league here | 04:59 |
| nalioth | yonkeltron: a trip to #ubuntu is in the works for you | 04:59 |
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| froggy25 | i need some help here plz | 05:03 |
| nalioth | froggy25: ask | 05:04 |
| froggy25 | does anyone know how to set up pearpc | 05:04 |
| froggy25 | on here | 05:04 |
| froggy25 | i have mac os 10.4 tiger | 05:04 |
| froggy25 | and i want to try it out | 05:04 |
| froggy25 | so do you know how to set it up | 05:05 |
| froggy25 | i just need to get started | 05:05 |
| h17m4n | pearpc? | 05:05 |
| froggy25 | its a mac emulator for windows and linux | 05:06 |
| h17m4n | ohh | 05:06 |
| h17m4n | !pearpc | 05:06 |
| ubotu | h17m4n: No idea | 05:06 |
| froggy25 | great! | 05:07 |
| froggy25 | even the great ubotu has no idea | 05:07 |
| nalioth | !info pearpc | 05:07 |
| ubotu | pearpc: (Architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB | 05:07 |
| froggy25 | cool | 05:07 |
| froggy25 | how did you do that nalioth | 05:07 |
| froggy25 | !info pearpc | 05:08 |
| ubotu | pearpc: (Architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | cool | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | !info limewire | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | just trying something out | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | thats all | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | so back to topic | 05:08 |
| froggy25 | can anyone help me here | 05:08 |
| h17m4n | !limewire | 05:09 |
| ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire ; or for a gtk-based P2P client that runs on the Gnutella network, try gtk-gnuttela | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | oh | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | !mplayer | 05:09 |
| ubotu | it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto. For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | thats so sweet | 05:09 |
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| h17m4n | does anyone use Kubuntu Package Menu? | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | i dont know | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | if i do | 05:09 |
| froggy25 | actually | 05:10 |
| h17m4n | it's an addon | 05:10 |
| froggy25 | ok | 05:10 |
| froggy25 | how do i get it | 05:10 |
| h17m4n | allows you to right click deb packages and install them | 05:10 |
| frank23 | how do I browse for samba shares on my network? | 05:10 |
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| h17m4n | if you find out, tell me | 05:10 |
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| froggy25 | ok | 05:11 |
| h17m4n | Kubuntu Package Menu: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23981 | 05:11 |
| h17m4n | small feature, but nice | 05:11 |
| froggy25 | hold on h17m4n | 05:12 |
| froggy25 | i got it | 05:12 |
| thoreauputic | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23981 | 05:12 |
| thoreauputic | bah | 05:12 |
| thoreauputic | sorry | 05:12 |
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| froggy25 | thanks thoreauputic | 05:15 |
| froggy25 | i had it handled though | 05:15 |
| froggy25 | thank you h17m4n for mentioning that | 05:16 |
| froggy25 | is there one for rpm files too | 05:16 |
| froggy25 | or do it still extract the deb file from them | 05:17 |
| froggy25 | and right click | 05:17 |
| froggy25 | and install | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | np :) | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | for rpm files | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | they're for redhat | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | deb are for debian based distros | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | but you could use alien to convert an rpm to deb | 05:17 |
| h17m4n | !alien | 05:18 |
| ubotu | I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/ | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | yeah i use that | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | alot | 05:18 |
| h17m4n | cool | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | but now i dont have to | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | i guess | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | ive been doing the dpkg -i filename.deb | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | route | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | its tiresome | 05:18 |
| froggy25 | you know | 05:19 |
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| froggy25 | is there any other addons at all that i should know about | 05:19 |
| hater2win | hey guys | 05:19 |
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| Spudchat | is there a keyboard command to lock the session? | 05:20 |
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| froggy25 | spudchat: i dont think so | 05:21 |
| Spudchat | k thx | 05:21 |
| froggy25 | spudchat: if there was you would set it up in the kde menu editor | 05:21 |
| hater2win | how do i apply i theme? i know i need a qt package but which one? | 05:21 |
| nalioth | alien is good, but try to find whatever it is in the ubuntu repos first | 05:21 |
| froggy25 | i do nalioth | 05:21 |
| froggy25 | but i use it for like when i installed limewire | 05:22 |
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| froggy25 | hater2win: is that theme a tar.bz2 file | 05:22 |
| h17m4n | well | 05:23 |
| h17m4n | you could install limewire from apt-get | 05:23 |
| froggy25 | really | 05:23 |
| froggy25 | well i already have it | 05:24 |
| froggy25 | i got it from limewire.com | 05:24 |
| hater2win | froggy25: yes i think so | 05:24 |
| froggy25 | well check it | 05:24 |
| froggy25 | hater2win | 05:24 |
| froggy25 | and if i dont install then its not a theme package for kde | 05:24 |
| froggy25 | where did you get it, hater2win | 05:25 |
| hater2win | froggy25: yes it is a tar.bz2 | 05:25 |
| hater2win | got it from kde-look.org | 05:25 |
| froggy25 | well go into your control center | 05:26 |
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| froggy25 | its in your k menu | 05:26 |
| froggy25 | go to appearance | 05:26 |
| froggy25 | and then to theme manager | 05:26 |
| froggy25 | once youre there | 05:26 |
| froggy25 | click on install new theme | 05:26 |
| froggy25 | and find that theme package | 05:27 |
| froggy25 | and hit ok | 05:27 |
| hater2win | ah nice nice | 05:27 |
| hater2win | now how do i install window decorations | 05:27 |
| hater2win | tar.bz2 also | 05:27 |
| froggy25 | what window decorations do you want | 05:27 |
| hater2win | its called softcrystal | 05:27 |
| hater2win | i already downloaded it | 05:28 |
| froggy25 | ok hold on | 05:28 |
| hater2win | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 | 05:28 |
| hater2win | theres the link | 05:28 |
| froggy25 | oh do you want it to look like window xp | 05:28 |
| hater2win | well | 05:29 |
| nalioth | use xpde for a windows look | 05:29 |
| hater2win | i just want that one | 05:29 |
| nalioth | xpde is a desktop | 05:29 |
| froggy25 | do you know how to find synaptic in your k menu | 05:29 |
| hater2win | yeah | 05:29 |
| hater2win | i have synaptic | 05:29 |
| froggy25 | go to it | 05:29 |
| froggy25 | and look for baghira | 05:29 |
| froggy25 | thats much cooler then this | 05:30 |
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| froggy25 | its a mac os x theme | 05:30 |
| froggy25 | i have it | 05:30 |
| froggy25 | my desktop looks completely like a mac | 05:30 |
| hater2win | heh, well yes thats all fun and nice but how about the soft crystal one? | 05:30 |
| froggy25 | i think you'll have to install it by source | 05:31 |
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| froggy25 | windows decorations doesnt have an installer on it | 05:31 |
| h17m4n | froggy25: how do you change the menubar? | 05:31 |
| h17m4n | I got baghira too | 05:32 |
| hater2win | yeh, i know the command but i just dont know the pack for qt that i need | 05:32 |
| h17m4n | want the menu to match it | 05:32 |
| froggy25 | what color theme are u using with baghira | 05:32 |
| froggy25 | brushed metal? | 05:32 |
| h17m4n | yeah | 05:33 |
| froggy25 | ill tell you what i did | 05:33 |
| froggy25 | i went online | 05:33 |
| froggy25 | and found a picture of itunes | 05:33 |
| froggy25 | and copied a piece of the brushed metal off of it | 05:33 |
| froggy25 | and put it into kolourpaint | 05:34 |
| h17m4n | and set it as the menus background? | 05:34 |
| froggy25 | yep | 05:34 |
| h17m4n | cool | 05:34 |
| froggy25 | and stretched it out | 05:34 |
| froggy25 | now it matches the rest | 05:34 |
| froggy25 | how do you have the bottom bar looking | 05:34 |
| h17m4n | what about a matching icon set... you got one or is it default? | 05:34 |
| h17m4n | right now I just have the original one | 05:35 |
| froggy25 | kde-look.org | 05:35 |
| h17m4n | I installed baghira like 30 mins ago | 05:35 |
| froggy25 | i have the cursors for mac os jaguar | 05:35 |
| froggy25 | i got them from kdelook also | 05:35 |
| froggy25 | hold on h17 | 05:36 |
| h17m4n | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2242 | 05:36 |
| froggy25 | yeah that will work | 05:36 |
| froggy25 | looks like them | 05:36 |
| froggy25 | i have a mac | 05:36 |
| froggy25 | but its broke | 05:36 |
| froggy25 | so i make this look like it | 05:37 |
| froggy25 | that theme should work | 05:37 |
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| froggy25 | as long as its a tar.bz2 file | 05:37 |
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| h17m4n | my cousin had a imac... and he was about to trash it | 05:37 |
| froggy25 | really | 05:37 |
| froggy25 | why | 05:37 |
| h17m4n | I dunno if he did.. he didn't have the installation disks | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | hell i need one | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | i have the install disks | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | for tiger | 05:38 |
| h17m4n | someone else gave it to him cos it was messed up, and that person lost the disk set | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | what was wrong with it | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | what type of mac was it | 05:38 |
| h17m4n | it seemed like someone messed with the system files | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | i had a imac g4 | 05:38 |
| froggy25 | oh | 05:39 |
| h17m4n | it wouldn't access the net | 05:39 |
| h17m4n | all it would do is play cds and thats it | 05:39 |
| froggy25 | yeah he needed to reinstall it | 05:39 |
| h17m4n | or install linux :) | 05:39 |
| froggy25 | hell couldnt he have got it off of limewire or something | 05:39 |
| froggy25 | yeah he could have installed ubuntu | 05:39 |
| h17m4n | well he's a complete noob | 05:39 |
| froggy25 | i have tiger | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | and i got it off of limewire | 05:40 |
| h17m4n | not just a mac noob.... but a complete computer noob | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | and its real | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | oh | 05:40 |
| h17m4n | cool | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | i saw a g3 imac | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | at a pawn shop | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | the other day | 05:40 |
| h17m4n | tiger is the last one right? | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | yeah | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | the mac was 250 dollars | 05:40 |
| froggy25 | and i live in alabama | 05:41 |
| h17m4n | 250? | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | yeah | 05:41 |
| h17m4n | hmm | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | people down here dont use macs | 05:41 |
| h17m4n | and he got it free | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | yeah | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | i want that g3 mac | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | he had everything | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | for 250 | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | thats crazy | 05:41 |
| h17m4n | I'm not a mac user.. i've always owned x86 machines... and an amd64 now | 05:41 |
| froggy25 | really | 05:42 |
| pussfeller | why didnt you buy it | 05:42 |
| h17m4n | but I would want to own a mac | 05:42 |
| nalioth | macs are coolness | 05:42 |
| froggy25 | i dont have the money yet | 05:42 |
| froggy25 | i cant work | 05:42 |
| pussfeller | macs are run by a dude who is just as powermad as bill gates | 05:42 |
| nalioth | think of it like this: most mac users dont have to worry about weird hardware configurations | 05:42 |
| h17m4n | mac are sleek | 05:42 |
| froggy25 | or viruses | 05:42 |
| froggy25 | apple wont give out their source codes | 05:43 |
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| h17m4n | Eddie Jobs | 05:43 |
| froggy25 | who can make a virus without that | 05:43 |
| h17m4n | or something like that | 05:43 |
| pussfeller | apple is sue crazy as well | 05:43 |
| h17m4n | right? | 05:43 |
| froggy25 | do you have a problem with apple pussfeller | 05:43 |
| froggy25 | yeah h | 05:43 |
| froggy25 | no | 05:43 |
| pussfeller | not really, i just dont get all the geek love | 05:43 |
| froggy25 | steve jobs | 05:44 |
| kingfish600 | is breezy out on kubuntu to? | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | is apple ceo | 05:44 |
| h17m4n | steve jobs yeah | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | no | 05:44 |
| pussfeller | i do plan on buying an ipod tho | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | breezy wont be out till october | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | i have one | 05:44 |
| h17m4n | x86 macs... hmm | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | they are sweet | 05:44 |
| kingfish600 | testing it now | 05:44 |
| pussfeller | do they skip when you jog | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | no | 05:44 |
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| kingfish600 | i'm downloading colony 4 | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | they dont skip at all | 05:44 |
| pussfeller | even the hd based ones? | 05:44 |
| froggy25 | nope | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | hd dont make them | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | apple does | 05:45 |
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| froggy25 | hp has their name on it | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | thats all | 05:45 |
| pussfeller | hard drive vs flash based | 05:45 |
| h17m4n | no | 05:45 |
| pussfeller | is wht i mean by hd | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | hard drive | 05:45 |
| h17m4n | he means the hard disk | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | more space | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | mine is 40 gb | 05:45 |
| pussfeller | yeah, the ipods vs the shuffles, at least till this new one came out | 05:45 |
| froggy25 | 10,000 songs | 05:46 |
| froggy25 | can go on there | 05:46 |
| pussfeller | i was gonna get a shuffle cause i figure it wouldnt skip and its so tiny | 05:46 |
| pussfeller | but now these new ones are fetching | 05:46 |
| froggy25 | get a mini | 05:46 |
| h17m4n | and you spent 10,000 usd on songs? | 05:46 |
| pussfeller | heh | 05:46 |
| froggy25 | no | 05:46 |
| froggy25 | i dont buy my songs | 05:46 |
| froggy25 | i dont even have a credit card | 05:46 |
| usrx | mini is being replaced | 05:46 |
| h17m4n | you borrow samples :) | 05:46 |
| pussfeller | call the RIAA | 05:47 |
| pussfeller | !! | 05:47 |
| kinfo | i don't understand. | 05:47 |
| ubotu | I guess ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me | 05:47 |
| usrx | ipod nano | 05:47 |
| froggy25 | i have limewire | 05:47 |
| froggy25 | remember | 05:47 |
| pussfeller | the bots reveal themselves | 05:47 |
| froggy25 | and i dont care if the RIAA knows | 05:47 |
| froggy25 | either | 05:47 |
| h17m4n | !mac | 05:47 |
| ubotu | Syntax error in line 1, h17m4n | 05:47 |
| usrx | http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/ | 05:47 |
| froggy25 | you dont download your music from p2p | 05:48 |
| pussfeller | emule is the shizzle for whole albums and collections.... | 05:48 |
| froggy25 | i use bit torrent | 05:48 |
| froggy25 | for whole albums | 05:48 |
| h17m4n | wow nice | 05:48 |
| froggy25 | i can get a whole album | 05:48 |
| froggy25 | which is from70 mb to 150 mb | 05:49 |
| froggy25 | in about 30 minutes | 05:49 |
| froggy25 | if there alot of seeders on there | 05:49 |
| froggy25 | does anyone else use bit torrent | 05:49 |
| pussfeller | all the time | 05:49 |
| h17m4n | well I had a cable connection that let me download the iso of a whole disk in 22 mins | 05:49 |
| froggy25 | cool | 05:49 |
| pussfeller | but mostly for anime and manga these days | 05:49 |
| froggy25 | cool | 05:49 |
| frank23 | this is pretty offtopic... | 05:50 |
| h17m4n | emule is nice | 05:50 |
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| froggy25 | i get my episodes of entourage with bit torrent | 05:50 |
| pussfeller | mldonkey works pretty good too | 05:50 |
| froggy25 | whats up frank | 05:50 |
| froggy25 | no one else is chatting | 05:50 |
| froggy25 | if someone would start a kde topic up | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | we would be chatting about that | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | you know | 05:51 |
| marndt | Hi all, I'm not familar with kubuntu...I just installed it tonight after getting sick of Gnome | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | ok | 05:51 |
| frank23 | no the problem is p2p use to download illegally | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | marndt | 05:51 |
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| pussfeller | you made a wise choise marndt | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | ok | 05:51 |
| froggy25 | well guys | 05:51 |
| marndt | I've successfully configured my wlan0 card via ndiswrapper | 05:51 |
| h17m4n | IMO kde looks much better | 05:51 |
| h17m4n | and is easier | 05:52 |
| froggy25 | lets stop talking illegally | 05:52 |
| froggy25 | i guess | 05:52 |
| marndt | however, when I go to the control center things are grayed-out after I select Administration Mode | 05:52 |
| froggy25 | did you install all of the packages for kde marndt | 05:52 |
| frank23 | marndt: kcontrol is pretty inconsistent. try sudo kcontrol to start it | 05:52 |
| froggy25 | in synaptics | 05:52 |
| froggy25 | marndt | 05:53 |
| h17m4n | press the K, Run Command, Click Options, check Run as Different User, Username: root Password: yourpass, and type synaptic in the command | 05:53 |
| marndt | froggy25, I'm not sure if I installed all of the packages for kde...how do I check? | 05:53 |
| froggy25 | you have to go into administration mode | 05:53 |
| marndt | frank23, I will try that | 05:53 |
| froggy25 | become the root user | 05:53 |
| h17m4n | marndt, try what I told you | 05:53 |
| froggy25 | thats why it is greyed out | 05:53 |
| h17m4n | that's the best way | 05:53 |
| froggy25 | become the root | 05:53 |
| h17m4n | no | 05:54 |
| froggy25 | what | 05:54 |
| h17m4n | run synaptic as root | 05:54 |
| froggy25 | no | 05:54 |
| pussfeller | its greyed out, not because he is missing packages, but because he is not authorized, as that user, to messs with those settings | 05:54 |
| frank23 | anyone know of a music player for kde that can play from a samba share? | 05:54 |
| froggy25 | thats what i just said | 05:54 |
| h17m4n | yeah | 05:54 |
| froggy25 | i dont know frank | 05:54 |
| pussfeller | any player will | 05:54 |
| h17m4n | the easiest way is to Run Command as root | 05:54 |
| usrx | smbmount... | 05:54 |
| froggy25 | is usrx a bot | 05:55 |
| usrx | hah | 05:55 |
| pussfeller | its mounted as a directory somewhere in your tree, you should have access to it | 05:55 |
| usrx | nope | 05:55 |
| chavo | just use smb:\ | 05:55 |
| frank23 | ok... yeah I haven't mounted the smb share | 05:55 |
| froggy25 | oh | 05:55 |
| froggy25 | sorry usrx | 05:55 |
| usrx | np | 05:55 |
| chavo | frank23, just use smb:/ in the opeb dialog or konq | 05:55 |
| froggy25 | frank do you also have a windows computer as well | 05:55 |
| pussfeller | i dont know how the gui tools work for samba, i just put it in fstab manually | 05:56 |
| pussfeller | smb:/ in konqy wont mount it | 05:56 |
| h17m4n | lol marndt, I just realized I told you the wrong thing.... it's because I'm used to running synaptic that way so much.... just type kcontrol in the command box | 05:56 |
| chavo | no need to mount it, just put smb:/server/share in konq | 05:57 |
| h17m4n | if you run if from a terminal, if you close the terminal, it gets closed too | 05:57 |
| chavo | that's smb://server/share | 05:57 |
| frank23 | chavo: that doesn't work for Juk for wxample | 05:57 |
| froggy25 | i just put that in chavo, and i got an error | 05:58 |
| froggy25 | possibly a bug | 05:58 |
| chavo | yeah me too, | 05:58 |
| froggy25 | wonder why | 05:58 |
| chavo | all my music on my linux box, so I never tried to do that | 05:58 |
| frank23 | I'm sure if I mounted the samba share somewhere it would work fine | 05:59 |
| chavo | frank23, yes | 05:59 |
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| froggy25 | have you tried to go into konq and hitting networks | 05:59 |
| froggy25 | and hitting add a network folder | 06:00 |
| froggy25 | if you dont know how to configure that | 06:00 |
| froggy25 | you can find out how on the web | 06:00 |
| froggy25 | because i have no idea how frank | 06:00 |
| froggy25 | do you think that would work, chavo | 06:01 |
| chavo | hmm kaffeine works over network | 06:01 |
| frank23 | froggy25: I'm sure I can find it, I just haven't looked yet | 06:01 |
| froggy25 | but i think that would work | 06:01 |
| froggy25 | http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=streaming+music+with+samba&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8 | 06:02 |
| frank23 | chavo: Yes I know I'm using kaffeine now, but I would like to set up an audio player that can manage the whole collection and everything | 06:02 |
| froggy25 | try this link frank | 06:02 |
| hater2win | does ANYBODY know the package you need for window decorations? | 06:02 |
| froggy25 | windows decorations at kde-look.org | 06:03 |
| pussfeller | just mount it and you wont have any problems after that | 06:03 |
| froggy25 | find any of them | 06:03 |
| froggy25 | you have to install it manually | 06:03 |
| pussfeller | i dont know the kubuntu way to do that | 06:03 |
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| froggy25 | to do what | 06:03 |
| pussfeller | mount smb sahres | 06:03 |
| froggy25 | oh | 06:04 |
| froggy25 | i dont either | 06:04 |
| froggy25 | i dont need to | 06:04 |
| froggy25 | have no use with that | 06:04 |
| pussfeller | maybe if you plug in the u/p in the kcontrol network shares thing, it sticks them in /mnt automatically or something | 06:04 |
| frank23 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba this should hel[p | 06:04 |
| pussfeller | i was really disgusted to find that XP wont let you put a pass on shares | 06:05 |
| pussfeller | how cheap can you get | 06:05 |
| froggy25 | yeah | 06:05 |
| pussfeller | well xp home | 06:05 |
| _marndt | hi people, i ran Control Center via Shell using: sudo kcontrol | 06:05 |
| froggy25 | no dude | 06:05 |
| _marndt | when, I attempt to activate my wlan0, it deactivates immediately | 06:05 |
| froggy25 | go to kcontrol | 06:05 |
| froggy25 | and go to system admin | 06:06 |
| frank23 | _marndt: I never could enable wireless using kcontrol, I always had errors like yours | 06:06 |
| froggy25 | and look at the bottom close to defaults | 06:06 |
| froggy25 | click on administrator mode | 06:06 |
| froggy25 | and put your password in | 06:06 |
| frank23 | _marndt: my solution was to install gnome-system-tools and use network-admin | 06:06 |
| froggy25 | and click on ok | 06:06 |
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| froggy25 | that should work _marndt | 06:07 |
| frank23 | froggy25: that didn't work for me either | 06:07 |
| froggy25 | really | 06:07 |
| froggy25 | it does for me | 06:07 |
| frank23 | froggy25: kcontrol is buggy | 06:07 |
| froggy25 | get system setting from synaptics | 06:07 |
| froggy25 | thats a addon | 06:07 |
| froggy25 | looks like system preferences on mac | 06:08 |
| froggy25 | thats what i mainly use | 06:08 |
| froggy25 | but you know what | 06:08 |
| _marndt | so do a sudo apt-get install what? | 06:08 |
| froggy25 | hold on | 06:09 |
| _marndt | by the way, you guys are great...much better than #ubuntu | 06:09 |
| pussfeller | so does ndiswrapper work for you guys | 06:09 |
| froggy25 | put apt-get install kde-systemsettings | 06:10 |
| froggy25 | is that what you wanted | 06:10 |
| froggy25 | with sudo at the beginning | 06:10 |
| froggy25 | or just su | 06:10 |
| nalioth | froggy25: sudo is safer | 06:11 |
| froggy25 | oh | 06:11 |
| froggy25 | i use su | 06:11 |
| frank23 | froggy25: I don't have that package available, kde-systemsettings | 06:11 |
| froggy25 | umm | 06:12 |
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| chavo | frank23, mounting the share works for me | 06:13 |
| _marndt | I receive an error that states the package couldn't be found | 06:13 |
| froggy25 | frank, you need backports in your repositories to get that | 06:13 |
| _marndt | pussfeller, it worked for me | 06:13 |
| froggy25 | !backports | 06:13 |
| ubotu | Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports | 06:13 |
| pussfeller | i would just use what frank said, the gnome thing | 06:14 |
| h17m4n | froggy25: check this one out: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535 | 06:14 |
| pussfeller | or not | 06:14 |
| froggy25 | sweet one h | 06:15 |
| pussfeller | su and sudo are the same, in this context | 06:15 |
| froggy25 | they are | 06:15 |
| froggy25 | i tried this once | 06:15 |
| froggy25 | baghira with kxdocker | 06:16 |
| froggy25 | kxdocker is a piece of crap | 06:16 |
| froggy25 | makes my computer freeze up | 06:16 |
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| pussfeller | yeah i never had much luck with those things | 06:17 |
| pussfeller | i got an old computer too and dont need all the eye candy | 06:17 |
| froggy25 | h17m4n: man that is so sweet | 06:18 |
| _marndt | I added the respository, but when I type: sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings, the package cannot be found | 06:19 |
| froggy25 | umm | 06:20 |
| froggy25 | i dont know then | 06:20 |
| h17m4n | yeah it is. I hope they make a tar.gz of it... I don't want to go into CVS | 06:20 |
| froggy25 | i trying to use one of the icons for system settings on my upper bar | 06:21 |
| froggy25 | on the left side | 06:21 |
| froggy25 | ok now i have a problem | 06:23 |
| froggy25 | i have the desktop menu bar on | 06:24 |
| froggy25 | and i added an application to it to move to the left side | 06:24 |
| froggy25 | the icon is distorted | 06:24 |
| froggy25 | i need it to look like it should look | 06:24 |
| froggy25 | how do i do that | 06:24 |
| _marndt | someone mentioned the gnome system settings | 06:25 |
| _marndt | how could I install the gnome system settings? | 06:25 |
| froggy25 | hey i have to go my gf imed me | 06:25 |
| froggy25 | i be back later | 06:25 |
| h17m4n | what system settings? | 06:32 |
| pussfeller | sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools | 06:32 |
| pussfeller | man... gnome just got a menu editor! | 06:32 |
| pussfeller | im switching like now | 06:32 |
| nalioth | pussfeller: just now? i thought smeg has been around a while | 06:33 |
| pussfeller | i just read on slashdot that a new version of gnome included that, and i couldnt resist | 06:34 |
| pussfeller | i know what they were trying to accomplish and i give them the props | 06:34 |
| hater2win | whats the package uninstall command? | 06:35 |
| nalioth | hater2win: use kynaptic and mark it for removal | 06:36 |
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| hater2win | know the command though | 06:37 |
| nalioth | hater2win: in a terminal: "sudo apt-get remove <pkgname>" | 06:37 |
| hater2win | ty | 06:38 |
| hater2win | nalioth: do you know how to make something work with the command line | 06:38 |
| hater2win | if i install azureus | 06:38 |
| hater2win | how do i make it run just by typing in azureus | 06:39 |
| nalioth | you cd into the azureus directory and type ./azureus | 06:39 |
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| lwizardl | hi | 06:39 |
| hater2win | nalioth: ty | 06:40 |
| lwizardl | can someone tell me what i need to do to mount a ntfs partition as readible in kubuntu? i have my drivers for nvidia graphics, and nforce on it | 06:41 |
| nalioth | !tell lwizardl about ntfs | 06:41 |
| nalioth | lwizardl: ubotu sends love | 06:41 |
| lwizardl | nalioth: thanks | 06:43 |
| nalioth | lwizardl: np | 06:44 |
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| marndt | I'm out of ideas to get my wlan0 activated | 06:45 |
| marndt | can anyone help? | 06:45 |
| marndt | hello? | 06:48 |
| nalioth | marndt: ask in #ubuntu | 06:49 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | what's the deal with these .desktop files that i download from kde-look.org? | 07:09 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | they are only 1kb and can't be displayed by kdm | 07:10 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | are they links to pics on the web? | 07:10 |
| nalioth | BROKEN_LADDER: no, .desktop files tell your DM how to display things | 07:10 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | then how can i click on it in kdm manager and see a picture? | 07:10 |
| nalioth | BROKEN_LADDER: open it with a txt editor and see what it is supposed to do | 07:11 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i just did. | 07:11 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | nothing | 07:11 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | it's a regular .desktop file. | 07:12 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | it names an image that isn't on my computer per search. | 07:12 |
| nalioth | BROKEN_LADDER: then back to kde-look to get it | 07:12 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | but it's displaying. | 07:13 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i can see the picture in kdm manager. | 07:13 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | where is that picture coming from? | 07:13 |
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| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, you're nick is very distracting, I'd try to help but I can't concentrate on what you're typing | 07:15 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | my nick is making it hard to read my text? | 07:16 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i don't believe it. | 07:16 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | is there a way to make Konquerer keep my display settings so it is altways in detail view? | 07:17 |
| chavo | looks like you're screaming for attention | 07:17 |
| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, set up your view just how you like and save a profile | 07:18 |
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| chavo | it should remember your view settings though | 07:18 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | profile? | 07:18 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | how? | 07:18 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | no it always goes back to ridiculous icon view. | 07:19 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | especially in those little file windows that pop up when saving and choosing background images and such. | 07:19 |
| chavo | open / save windows don't seem to be saving for me either, I always use icon view anyway | 07:20 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | i can't figure out how to change the view now. | 07:22 |
| chavo | view -> view mode | 07:22 |
| chavo | in konq | 07:22 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i don't see anything labeled "view" | 07:24 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | oh..duh. | 07:24 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i keep forgetting that the menu is at the top | 07:24 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i just stopped using gnome | 07:25 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | kde is finally good enough to make me sacrifice looks for quality. | 07:25 |
| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, it's so ugly http://2sdw.com/images/09-07-dirty.jpg | 07:26 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | no. | 07:26 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | with a lot of tweaking kde can look decent | 07:26 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | yeah, that's a great example of how tacky looking kde is. | 07:27 |
| chavo | tacky how? | 07:27 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | like poor color choice, over-done icons... | 07:27 |
| nalioth | ratpoison is the best <snort> | 07:27 |
| chavo | poor color choice? I chose them myself | 07:27 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | doh | 07:27 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i dunno..it just doesn't look nice and clean. | 07:28 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | it doesn't have that sleek minimalistic modern look. | 07:28 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i like how the newer gnome icons look so soft and colorful, but not too cartoonish. | 07:28 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | beos had the best icons though. | 07:29 |
| chavo | well I think those icons are great, I didn't like them at first but they fit with any color scheme | 07:29 |
| chavo | there's also a port of the gperfection icon set at kde-look.org | 07:30 |
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| chavo | you know you can change your icons right? | 07:30 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | i have changed my icons. | 07:31 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i just didn't know i could use gperfection2 | 07:31 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i actually found a pretty sweet icon set for kde. | 07:31 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | lemme show you a screenshot dude. | 07:31 |
| Parisi | How is kubuntu compared to standard Ubuntu in terms of performance? | 07:32 |
| Parisi | As in responsiveness | 07:32 |
| chavo | for me kde is way faster | 07:32 |
| Parisi | I see. | 07:33 |
| Parisi | I dont really like Gnome to begin with. | 07:33 |
| nalioth | Parisi: it's all in the tuning | 07:33 |
| Parisi | But i havent tried Kub yet | 07:33 |
| Parisi | I am just using KDE under Freebsd and its fast as *** | 07:33 |
| Parisi | I'll try Kun anyways | 07:34 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | Parisi kubuntu isn't going to be different. | 07:36 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | it's just a different desktop environment. | 07:36 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | mainly it will look and feel different. | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i prefer kde after using gnome for years. | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i just switched to kde. | 07:37 |
| Parisi | Heh. | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | you can't even configure your menu in gnome. | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | the one pain of kde is however, it won't recognize my "multi-media" keys. | 07:37 |
| Parisi | gnome is not intuitive at all | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | for shortcuts and stuff. | 07:37 |
| Parisi | I see. | 07:37 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i think it is very intuitive. | 07:37 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | i think kde takes a lot of figuring out. it feels more like windows in structure, but you can tweak it so much. configurability is what makes it so good. | 07:38 |
| Parisi | Well, you've used it for years '[ | 07:38 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | true..but i always thought it just made sense. | 07:38 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | anyway, how can i set a profile in konquerer to be my default one? | 07:38 |
| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, you can get your multimedia keys to work | 07:38 |
| Parisi | Perhaps because i do come from a windows background from the most part. | 07:38 |
| Parisi | I'll brb | 07:39 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | chavo how?! | 07:40 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | in gnome they Just Worked | 07:41 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | to borrow a term from M$ | 07:41 |
| nalioth | from apple? | 07:41 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | whatever | 07:41 |
| hater2win | does anybody know the qt3 package that I need to use different window decorations? | 07:41 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | i haven't used a proprietary operating system since beos. | 07:42 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | chavo ?? | 07:42 |
| nalioth | hater2win: which package is called for? | 07:42 |
| hater2win | http://pastebin.com/357717 | 07:44 |
| hater2win | nalioth: http://pastebin.com/357717 | 07:44 |
| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, open up the kmix window and right click the volume slider | 07:46 |
| chavo | then click configure shortcuts | 07:46 |
| nalioth | hater2win: you need your kde -dev pkg(s) | 07:49 |
| hater2win | what are those? | 07:49 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | word | 07:53 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | kmix? | 07:53 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | wtf | 07:53 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | me? | 07:53 |
| BROKEN_LADDER | my sound is working fine dude. | 07:53 |
| nalioth | hater2win: open synaptic and search for "-dev" in the results scroll to the "k" section | 07:53 |
| nalioth | hater2win: look for kde(something)-dev | 07:54 |
| hater2win | hmm, kk sec | 07:55 |
| chavo | BROKEN_LADDER, configure the shortcuts for your keyboard there dude | 07:55 |
| chavo | man I'm not going to help you anymore | 07:56 |
| hater2win | nalioth: there is a whole bunch of kde(stuff) -dev s | 07:56 |
| nalioth | hater2win: lemme look | 07:57 |
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| nalioth | hater2win: kde-base-dev, kde-devel, kdelibs4-dev should take care of it | 07:58 |
| hater2win | nalioth: ty | 07:59 |
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| BROKEN_LADDER | how can i get gperfection2 for kde? | 08:06 |
| hater2win | nalioth: thanks alot, it works like a charm | 08:07 |
| hater2win | whats the make install cleaner command? | 08:08 |
| hater2win | make install clean? | 08:08 |
| nalioth | hater2win: np | 08:08 |
| hater2win | clean install? | 08:08 |
| nalioth | hater2win: well, in the future, use "checkinstall" rather than "make install" | 08:08 |
| nalioth | checkinstall will make a deb for easy system maintenance | 08:08 |
| hater2win | heh yeah i just realized that right now | 08:08 |
| nalioth | and the "make clean" will take the source code back to the point of when you unpacked it | 08:09 |
| hater2win | nalioth: thanks | 08:09 |
| nalioth | believe me, checkinstall is a blessing | 08:10 |
| hater2win | i bet | 08:11 |
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| nalioth | howdy | 08:17 |
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| aftertaf | hi all..... | 08:31 |
| nalioth | aftertaf: you overslept | 08:32 |
| aftertaf | mornfall, another sigsegv to post backtrace... what's the site again? | 08:32 |
| aftertaf | loool | 08:32 |
| aftertaf | nah, i tried doing things before i logged on. bad idea too! | 08:32 |
| aftertaf | hmpf i wanna throw a little web site together, but i can't ftp to my homepage to upload: damn http proxy :/ | 08:33 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: bugs.kde.org by now :) | 08:35 |
| libben | nalioth awake allready ? =) | 08:39 |
| nalioth | libben: i am awake all night CST | 08:41 |
| libben | ooh so u havent got any sleep yet =) | 08:42 |
| libben | just woke up from our session last nite | 08:42 |
| libben | and still azureus wont run =(... | 08:43 |
| nalioth | i wake up around 4pm CST US, and am awake until 5 or 6 the next morning | 08:43 |
| libben | dont get it really. done everything right. | 08:43 |
| nalioth | libben: have you tried starting it from the terminal? | 08:43 |
| libben | yes | 08:44 |
| libben | and it never pops up | 08:44 |
| libben | it just stalls and never says a thing. | 08:45 |
| libben | http://pastebin.com/357748 | 08:47 |
| libben | thats the output from a ps fux | grep azu | 08:47 |
| mornfall | --> work | 08:48 |
| mornfall | laters | 08:48 |
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| nalioth | libben: what kind of java did you install? | 08:50 |
| nalioth | libben: what does "java --version" return to you? | 08:50 |
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| libben | nalioth when i type it like u do... it tells me virtual java machine could not be created. | 08:51 |
| libben | if i do it with just one -version | 08:51 |
| libben | it pops up | 08:51 |
| libben | java version "1.5.0_04" | 08:51 |
| libben | Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_04-b05) | 08:51 |
| libben | Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_04-b05, mixed mode, sharing) | 08:51 |
| nalioth | i dont understand why azureus wont start | 08:52 |
| nalioth | delete your ~/.azureus and the azureus folder | 08:52 |
| nalioth | re download it and try again | 08:52 |
| libben | now i have azureus installed from synaptic... | 08:54 |
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| jimmy_neutron | hi | 08:56 |
| jimmy_neutron | anybody knows how i can start kbootsplash after installing it? | 08:56 |
| nalioth | libben: remove it with synaptic | 08:57 |
| nalioth | libben: had this problem earlier today | 08:57 |
| libben | ive allready removed it completly... now im downloading tarball from az.sf site | 08:57 |
| nalioth | good show | 08:58 |
| libben | http://pastebin.com/357752 | 09:00 |
| libben | nalioth ? | 09:01 |
| nalioth | yes? | 09:01 |
| libben | pastebin | 09:02 |
| nalioth | still not working? | 09:02 |
| libben | StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process. | 09:03 |
| libben | just got that line =) | 09:03 |
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| libben | from terminal | 09:04 |
| aftertaf | ok mornfall | 09:04 |
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| Red_Bullet | h1 | 09:06 |
| Red_Bullet | can i start repos in Kynaptic | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | ? | 09:07 |
| aftertaf | hi... wahat do you mean by 'start' repos ? | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | ee | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | i would to | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | start xfce | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | to my kubuntu | 09:07 |
| Red_Bullet | but i didn't know how | 09:08 |
| Red_Bullet | and i ask in #ubuntu | 09:08 |
| jimmy_neutron | ./configure says "Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. please check your installation" <-- which package is missing? | 09:08 |
| Red_Bullet | but they tell me how to do in ubuntu | 09:08 |
| libben | with synaptic ill guess ? =) | 09:08 |
| Red_Bullet | and in ubuntu i must first start repositories | 09:08 |
| nalioth | jimmy_neutron: your qt dev librarys are missing | 09:09 |
| chavo | he needs to add repos I'm guessing | 09:09 |
| Red_Bullet | yes they tell me how to do with synpatic | 09:09 |
| jimmy_neutron | hmmm, are these the ones qt-*-dev? | 09:09 |
| Red_Bullet | but i haven't synaptic i have kynaptic | 09:09 |
| aftertaf | Red_Bullet: installsynaptic ;) | 09:09 |
| Red_Bullet | aftertaf, how | 09:09 |
| chavo | Red_Bullet, apt-get install synaptic | 09:09 |
| chavo | sudo of course | 09:09 |
| aftertaf | chavo: of course ;) | 09:10 |
| nalioth | jimmy_neutron: correct | 09:10 |
| Red_Bullet | ooo 10x | 09:10 |
| Red_Bullet | :) | 09:10 |
| jimmy_neutron | k, thx | 09:11 |
| chavo | Red_Bullet, apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt also | 09:12 |
| chavo | then synaptic will look like your KDE apps | 09:12 |
| chavo | any gnome app will | 09:12 |
| Red_Bullet | sudo apt-get install gtk2.... | 09:12 |
| Red_Bullet | ?? | 09:12 |
| kinfo | i don't understand. | 09:12 |
| chavo | yes | 09:12 |
| Red_Bullet | k | 09:12 |
| hater2win | jimmy_neutron: what are you trying to install? | 09:13 |
| chavo | as long as your not running synaptic already | 09:13 |
| jimmy_neutron | kbootsplash | 09:13 |
| hater2win | try doing this | 09:13 |
| jimmy_neutron | you know where the KDE headers are? (configure requires the path as prefix) | 09:13 |
| hater2win | <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> | 09:13 |
| hater2win | <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | <head> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" /> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | </head> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | <body> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | <pre> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3</pre></body> | 09:14 |
| nalioth | jimmy_neutron: kdelibs4-dev, kde-devel and kdebase-dev | 09:14 |
| hater2win | </html> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | bah | 09:14 |
| hater2win | fux | 09:14 |
| hater2win | ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3</pre></body> | 09:14 |
| hater2win | that | 09:14 |
| hater2win | jimmy_neutron: ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 | 09:14 |
| hater2win | ok that one | 09:14 |
| hater2win | lol | 09:14 |
| nalioth | hater2win: why are you pasting in here? | 09:15 |
| jimmy_neutron | hater2win: nope, still same error | 09:16 |
| chavo | ./configure -prefix /usr | 09:16 |
| jimmy_neutron | k | 09:17 |
| hater2win | nalioth: i have put it in a document file to help me remember commands i use for certain things, i didnt think it would paste a million lines like that | 09:17 |
| nalioth | jimmy_neutron: if you are going to compile your own stuff, you need dev librarys for all you are gonna develop for | 09:17 |
| jimmy_neutron | kk,... | 09:17 |
| nalioth | jimmy_neutron: i sent you the files you need, (may need more, but try those first) | 09:17 |
| jimmy_neutron | ok | 09:17 |
| chavo | yeah you need kde-libs and kde-base devel packages also | 09:18 |
| nalioth | chavo: read ^^^^ | 09:18 |
| libben | nalioth http://pastebin.com/357761 | 09:22 |
| nalioth | libben: killall java_swt | 09:23 |
| libben | no process killed | 09:24 |
| nalioth | libben: i'm lost | 09:24 |
| libben | m2 | 09:25 |
| libben | well of to work anyway =) | 09:25 |
| libben | ill take another shot at it when ill get home again. | 09:26 |
| libben | later. | 09:26 |
| libben | thxs for the help | 09:26 |
| nalioth | be safe | 09:27 |
| yonkeltron | http://www.lane.ca/images/steve_ballmer.jpg | 09:30 |
| mornfall | woof woof | 09:30 |
| hater2win | lol | 09:31 |
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| mornfall | so old... | 09:32 |
| Red_Bullet | how can i activate my tv-out to G-force 4 | 09:33 |
| mornfall | pray | 09:34 |
| mornfall | :-) | 09:34 |
| hater2win | i just plugged in my USB Drive, how do I get linux to recognize it? | 09:43 |
| chavo | hater2win, should be recognized | 09:43 |
| hater2win | where would it be? | 09:44 |
| hater2win | i checked storage devices | 09:44 |
| hater2win | nothing | 09:44 |
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| BlankB | hater2win: does it show up when you do: lsusb | 09:44 |
| hater2win | BlankB: yes | 09:44 |
| hater2win | bus 005 device 005 | 09:45 |
| BlankB | it should show up under "media:/" | 09:46 |
| hater2win | nothing, just my HDs | 09:46 |
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| BlankB | have you hit reload (F5) since the media:/ is opened? | 09:47 |
| hater2win | several times | 09:47 |
| BlankB | does dmesg show anything useful? | 09:48 |
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| hater2win | what would i be looking for? | 09:48 |
| BlankB | something that says something about your drive. | 09:48 |
| BlankB | you can paste the output of "dmesg | tail" to here http://blankb.pastebin.com/ | 09:49 |
| hater2win | http://blankb.pastebin.com/357769 | 09:51 |
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| BlankB | hater2win: also send me a copy of lsusb to the pastebin. | 09:59 |
| hater2win | BlankB: alright sec | 10:02 |
| hater2win | BlankB: http://blankb.pastebin.com/357773 | 10:03 |
| hater2win | thats all that came from that command | 10:03 |
| BlankB | what about the lsusb | 10:04 |
| hater2win | http://blankb.pastebin.com/357776 <-- lsub | 10:05 |
| BlankB | I dont see 0781 in rgrep -i "0781" /etc/hotplug/* | 10:08 |
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| BlankB | could mean that hot plug doesnt recognize it. | 10:08 |
| hater2win | what can i do about that? | 10:08 |
| BlankB | I dont know much about hotplug. I can tell you how to mount it manually (that is if its recognized) | 10:09 |
| hater2win | well | 10:10 |
| hater2win | how to mount manually? | 10:10 |
| BlankB | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbmemcard (this assumes that the device is recognized as /dev/sda1 and that the folder /mnt/usbmemcard exists.) | 10:11 |
| hater2win | mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist | 10:13 |
| hater2win | not recognizing it | 10:13 |
| BlankB | I would gess that it is just not recognized by the system. | 10:14 |
| hater2win | hmm | 10:15 |
| hater2win | any ideas? | 10:15 |
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| aftertaf | !info screem | 10:16 |
| ubotu | screem: (A GNOME website development environment), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2158 kB, Installed size: 8280 kB | 10:16 |
| BlankB | h2w: doing a google for "(ubuntu | kubuntu) SanDisk Cruzer Mini" doesnt seem too helpful. | 10:17 |
| hater2win | yeh | 10:19 |
| hater2win | its got a fat partition | 10:20 |
| hater2win | matter any? | 10:20 |
| BlankB | nope. | 10:20 |
| BlankB | It should work. I get the feeling from reading a pages that its just not well supported. 8( | 10:21 |
| hater2win | mleh | 10:21 |
| BlankB | someone who has more experience with hotplug and usb might be able to get it to work. | 10:23 |
| hater2win | yeh | 10:23 |
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| hater2win | modprobe sd_mod | 10:28 |
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| hater2win | how do i downgrade my udev? | 10:30 |
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| hater2win | gtg | 10:34 |
| hater2win | night all | 10:34 |
| hater2win | BlankB: thanks for all the help | 10:35 |
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| Almindor | what do you guys use for service configuration? you do it manualy? | 11:23 |
| nalioth | service configurations? | 11:25 |
| Almindor | rcs | 11:25 |
| Almindor | what boots what get's killed | 11:25 |
| Almindor | I miss a good gui config tool for this in most linuces | 11:25 |
| nalioth | Almindor: come over to #ubuntu and ask (more folks awake) | 11:27 |
| Almindor | oh btw, I'm on breezy and I get consolefont setup error on boot(I know it's beta) | 11:29 |
| Almindor | it doesn't brake anything but I'd like to find out whats wrong.. | 11:29 |
| nalioth | Almindor: i'm not on breezy (it's still broken) | 11:30 |
| Almindor | well it works :) | 11:30 |
| Almindor | I got it from ISO not by updating | 11:30 |
| Almindor | (updating broke everything here so I reinstalled from breezy ISO) | 11:30 |
| Almindor | the new bootsplash is kinda cool, altho still only "ubuntu" :) | 11:30 |
| Almindor | everything works tip-top except that consolefont BUt IIRC I had the same problem with 5.04 | 11:31 |
| Almindor | perhaps it has something to do with my locale being sk | 11:31 |
| nalioth | Almindor: if it persists across versions, then yes it isn't a bug in the software per se | 11:32 |
| Almindor | I got a feeling it's a script-bug | 11:33 |
| Almindor | there's something about "t_kernel_font" so ether the script refers to old stuff or kernel broke something | 11:33 |
| nalioth | perhaps so | 11:35 |
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| GNAM | what about breeze betas? | 11:37 |
| GNAM | (kubuntu) | 11:37 |
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| Almindor | there are ISOs, I was lucky perhaps, people say breezy is broken but this ones works like a breeze :D | 11:39 |
| nalioth | GNAM: www.distrowatch.com look for ubuntu colony-4 | 11:40 |
| Almindor | there are "kubuntu" breezy iso's too | 11:40 |
| Almindor | less known | 11:40 |
| Almindor | but I didn't save the bookmark as I reinstalled :( | 11:40 |
| nalioth | Almindor: well enlighten GNAM | 11:40 |
| Almindor | GNAM, for me everything works smoothly, but since people say it's still broken it might be that your configuration will not work | 11:42 |
| Almindor | GNAM, I have kde, nvidia, eclipse, java, and lots of funky stuff working no prob | 11:43 |
| Almindor | GNAM, only problem I have is an "general consolefont error" on boot | 11:43 |
| Almindor | but it doesn't affect anything | 11:43 |
| Almindor | oh and I'm also localized | 11:43 |
| Almindor | works too except fonts | 11:44 |
| Almindor | I had to snatch windows fonts, the ones with kubuntu don't support slovak | 11:44 |
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| GNAM | do you use synaptic or kynapic? | 11:44 |
| Almindor | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908/ | 11:46 |
| Almindor | kynaptic | 11:46 |
| nalioth | GNAM: kynaptic is kinda default with kubuntu, but use what you like | 11:47 |
| Almindor | only problem I have, and it's in all KDE using linuces is kdesu sometimes get's stuck | 11:47 |
| Almindor | I guess it's a KDE bug | 11:47 |
| nalioth | yes, i prefer console in KDE | 11:47 |
| nalioth | for my apt-get work | 11:47 |
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| aftertaf | GNAM: there'll soon be adept to use on kde, native ;) | 11:48 |
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| Riddell | does any willing tester have amd64 or powerpc? | 12:19 |
| seaLne | Riddell: i'll see if i ahve time to switch hd in a mac and test it, when is the preview out? | 12:22 |
| Riddell | seaLne: ISO build should finish in about an hour | 12:24 |
| Riddell | would be wonderful if you could test it | 12:24 |
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| seaLne | k | 12:25 |
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| nikkia | i'm starting to think there's nothing more boring than trawling thru java profiler output | 12:35 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/breezy-install-powerpc.iso | 12:44 |
| Riddell | seaLne: get that tested (and the live when it appears) and I'll owe you lots of beer | 12:45 |
| Riddell | testers wanted for the rest too: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/ | 12:45 |
| hettar | can you upgrade via apt successfully ? | 12:46 |
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| Riddell | hettar: should be able to | 12:49 |
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| flaviu | how can I see the flash images on a web page? | 12:59 |
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| aftertaf | flaviu: you can install a flash plugin with apt | 01:00 |
| aftertaf | or synaptic | 01:00 |
| flaviu | how ?? | 01:00 |
| aftertaf | have you ever used synaptic? | 01:00 |
| aftertaf | !flash | 01:01 |
| ubotu | I guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 01:01 |
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| flaviu | ok. thanks | 01:04 |
| nikkia | jebus | 01:10 |
| === nikkia just got a credit card application form thru the mail.... 58.6% APR | ||
| nikkia | 'Variable rate on purchases, 44.2% to 69.1%' can you say 'loan shark' ? | 01:11 |
| nalioth | morning nikkia | 01:11 |
| nalioth | nikkia: thats not a shark, it's a school of piranha | 01:12 |
| nikkia | nalioth: i know, its insane | 01:12 |
| nikkia | i could have sworn that such APRs were illegal in this country | 01:12 |
| nalioth | nikkia: was it sent from this country? | 01:13 |
| nikkia | nalioth: yes | 01:13 |
| nalioth | hmph | 01:13 |
| === nalioth has no credit cards | ||
| nikkia | well, i can't be sure about that, but the address for the reply envelope is in this country | 01:13 |
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| nikkia | nalioth: i have one, need another, but the one i have has an APR of 12% (and the one i'm applying for, 8%) | 01:14 |
| nikkia | no way would i bother with one offering 60% that's just silly | 01:14 |
| nalioth | nikkia: silly aint the word, heh | 01:15 |
| nikkia | however, if it IS illegal to set such high APRs, then i would seriously consider squealing on them :P | 01:15 |
| nalioth | nikkia: i'm glad you (and the rest of these folks) are nice | 01:15 |
| === nalioth has had dealings earlier with a <not very nice> person | ||
| nikkia | ah, no, no laws, yet | 01:16 |
| nikkia | there is a bill to limit APRs, but its not been passed, yet | 01:16 |
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| wong | ihianyone.. | 01:52 |
| wong | hi anyone | 01:53 |
| wong | what is java command about read from file into system | 01:54 |
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| wong | libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0? | 02:02 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: hi... how goes? | 02:05 |
| Riddell | mornfall: testing kubuntu preview release. bddebian asked for elmo to sync debtags 1.4 from experimental | 02:07 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: i know that much, but no idea how it ended up like? | 02:08 |
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| sml | test | 02:12 |
| hussam | where's the wiki page that had the release schedule for breezy? | 02:12 |
| sml | it is easy to find with a google search | 02:13 |
| hussam | yeah I think I found it | 02:13 |
| sml | i just googled it today - the release date was 13 oct i think? | 02:14 |
| hussam | yes | 02:14 |
| hussam | preview release is today and rc is 6 oct | 02:15 |
| hussam | is the preview release stable enough to upgrade from hoary? | 02:16 |
| nalioth | hussam: usually it is | 02:17 |
| nalioth | hussam: heavy updates daily until it 'finals' | 02:18 |
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| sml | my breezy kubuntu just froze! how can i check what caused the problem? | 02:20 |
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| Riddell | mornfall: he hasn't synced yet | 02:37 |
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| jsgotangco | Riddell, ping? | 02:46 |
| Riddell | jsgotangco: hi | 02:47 |
| jsgotangco | Riddell, hi, do you mind publishing docs to kubuntu even after doc string freeze? | 02:47 |
| jsgotangco | or would you rather stick to the current sched | 02:48 |
| Riddell | jsgotangco: I don't mind, I don't see them getting translated anyway | 02:48 |
| jsgotangco | Riddell, great we have 2 kubuntu-specific docs but still needs polish | 02:49 |
| Riddell | still need to check with higher up ubuntu powers but I think it'll be fine | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | mdz doesn't want any extension but i guess it holds more with ubuntu | 02:49 |
| jjesse | Riddell: can you let me know it seems i'm the sole kubuntu doc writer now :( | 02:50 |
| Riddell | you guys should boss me around more | 02:51 |
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| Riddell | is there an update that can go in shortly after preview (so this evening or tomorrow)? | 02:51 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i'm trying to finish the kquickguide tonight | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse, can you fix the kquickguide even without adept for a while? | 02:52 |
| jjesse | i can sure try it just doesn't validate rigth now? | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | right | 02:52 |
| jjesse | well let me get it to validate and then we can move forward w/ that | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | just do a make kqg when it validates and you'll have an html preview that Riddell can use for preview release | 02:53 |
| jsgotangco | About Kubuntu should also build | 02:53 |
| jjesse | ok, i'll go to town then today but first work calls :( | 02:53 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse, no problem the timezones are on our side =_ | 02:53 |
| jsgotangco | Riddell, thanks, i'll just cc you in an email later | 02:55 |
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| rajeevpn | Folks, am a newbie here... been having some problems installing kubuntu. Pl see my post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62914 for the nature of the problem | 03:02 |
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| daugirdas | hi | 03:18 |
| daugirdas | anyone having problems with media:/ on KDE 3.42?? | 03:19 |
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| pgsc | hello | 03:26 |
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| pgsc | anybody could say me what is the kernel version of kubuntu 5.04 | 03:26 |
| daugirdas | 2.6.10 | 03:27 |
| pgsc | thank you daugirdas | 03:27 |
| pgsc | i need to know because my webcam works with this cersion | 03:27 |
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| pgsc | exit | 03:30 |
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| kaptaink | how can i mount an ext3 partition through the console? | 03:32 |
| h17m4n | there are people chatting in #ubuntu | 03:34 |
| h17m4n | since that question isn't kde related, they could help you | 03:34 |
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| sdogi_ | anyone knows how is the html printing possible with cups with firefox or konqueror | 04:18 |
| ztonzy | hmm, is there something odd with #ubuntu today ? | 04:25 |
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| ztonzy | nikkia, hey ? | 04:26 |
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| nikkia | yes? | 04:31 |
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| ztonzy | nikkia, something odd with #ubuntu today ? | 04:32 |
| vj | #join kubuntu-es | 04:32 |
| blackflag | Hello all :-) | 04:32 |
| nikkia | don't ask me, i rarely go there | 04:32 |
| blackflag | can someone explain me what is "IDE" for c/c++ ? | 04:32 |
| ztonzy | nikkia, I am in there each day...but today , moments ago I got to see I am banned (??) have no clue why | 04:32 |
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| nikkia | blackflag: Integrated Development Environment | 04:33 |
| blackflag | aha, what does it mean? | 04:33 |
| ztonzy | so if I type to little I get banned O_O ? | 04:33 |
| nikkia | blackflag: just what it says :) | 04:33 |
| nikkia | blackflag: an IDE is an application that allows you to edit, compile, debug, etc, in one application | 04:33 |
| nikkia | hence, its a development environment, that is integrated :P | 04:34 |
| blackflag | ahhh, I see | 04:34 |
| === ztonzy want to know why | ||
| blackflag | but in what integrated? InLinux? | 04:34 |
| nikkia | blackflag: erm, no, integrated as in the editor, compiler, debugger, etc are integrated into one app | 04:35 |
| nikkia | there are IDEs for all OSes | 04:35 |
| nikkia | (and yes, i'll purposefully keep 'IDE' vague enough to include EDIT/LSE on VMS, to allow me to make bold claims like that :) | 04:36 |
| blackflag | Okay, when I 'll try to beginn to develop withc/c++ I can use an IDE?correct? | 04:36 |
| nikkia | blackflag: you can, yes | 04:36 |
| nikkia | you don't have to, however | 04:37 |
| nikkia | some people like IDEs, some people prefer to use a text editor they are familiar with | 04:37 |
| blackflag | I have here kDevelopment IDE, is that good for beginning programming? | 04:37 |
| nikkia | blackflag: i couldn't say, really, i haven't used kdevelop in a LONG time | 04:38 |
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| blackflag | hmm... What is the meaning here, how is the best practice to begin development? | 04:39 |
| nikkia | i'm sure it can be used for beginning programming, the only real question i'd have, is whether or not it (easily) supports a plain console app project style, which is what i'd recommend for begining programming | 04:39 |
| nikkia | i suspect it probably DOES offer a console app project style, and thus is 'fine' for beginning with :) | 04:39 |
| blackflag | okay, so I go to the library get a book over c/c## programming and begin, or? | 04:40 |
| blackflag | Or is there some good stuff on Internet? | 04:41 |
| nikkia | blackflag, depends on how you learn best, really | 04:41 |
| nikkia | there's plenty of sites on learning programming, some good, some bad, some people find it hard to learn from a website, some don't, etc | 04:42 |
| blackflag | can you recommend a good site for beginners? | 04:42 |
| ToyMan | does someone have a good alt. source for repositories? | 04:49 |
| ToyMan | I've been trying to connect to Planetmirror, but no luck | 04:49 |
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| blackflag | okay, thanx for help. Going to get a book first.... | 04:55 |
| blackflag | bye | 04:55 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: preliminary plan is to get beta2 out tomorrow | 05:12 |
| Riddell | mornfall: cool, if elmo hasn't synced debtags by then I'll jolly well do it myself and upload adept :) | 05:13 |
| chakie | when compiling/installing custom kde software on kubuntu, is --prefix=/usr what i want? | 05:18 |
| seaLne | i'd put anything i compiled myself in to /usr/local to keep it seperate | 05:20 |
| chakie | does kde pick up that stuff then? | 05:21 |
| chakie | this is a io-slave | 05:21 |
| chakie | my experience with stuff like that is that is has to be "officiallly" installed in the proper location for it to work at all | 05:22 |
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| MxxCon | hey folks, i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04 | 05:29 |
| MxxCon | i found this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=139932&postcount=11 but it seems like that file was removed | 05:31 |
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| Luen | somebody knows how to transfer files from linux to pocket-pc? | 05:33 |
| Luen | i don't have sd cards reader at my computer | 05:33 |
| Luen | neither bluethoth | 05:34 |
| MxxCon | cable? | 05:34 |
| MxxCon | wifi? | 05:34 |
| Luen | no wifi | 05:34 |
| Luen | just usb to my pocket pc | 05:34 |
| MxxCon | so you should be able to use that | 05:34 |
| Luen | sb 1-1: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 | 05:35 |
| Luen | usbcore: registered new driver ipaq | 05:35 |
| Luen | i get this | 05:35 |
| Luen | yeah but don't know how to | 05:35 |
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| MxxCon | can you see it in konqueror? | 05:37 |
| Luen | nope | 05:38 |
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| MxxCon | look into KitchenSync | 05:41 |
| Luen | mm | 05:41 |
| MxxCon | that's kde project :) | 05:43 |
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| Luen | mm | 05:45 |
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| djib | hey | 05:49 |
| Luen | i'l try later | 05:49 |
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| MxxCon | so...i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04, any help? | 05:53 |
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| _user | can i install wine on kubuntu? | 05:56 |
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| djib | yes | 06:02 |
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| zAo^ | is there a Ubuntu Krita-package? | 06:07 |
| seaLne | there is in breezy, i don't have a hoary box on atm to check it | 06:08 |
| zAo^ | well, here it isnt :) thanks | 06:08 |
| zAo^ | any news on the kubuntu Breezy release? | 06:08 |
| zAo^ | and KDE 3.5 ^^ | 06:08 |
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| Red_Bullet | !tell Red_Bullet NVIDIA | 06:22 |
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| znh | Hello, I have some problems installing VLC | 06:38 |
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| znh | it seems that it can't install components | 06:39 |
| znh | while I didnt make use of any backports | 06:39 |
| znh | !source | 06:41 |
| ubotu | znh: I don't know, could you explain it? | 06:41 |
| znh | !sources | 06:41 |
| ubotu | sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 | 06:41 |
| znh | I have the same issue with the recommended sources.list | 06:43 |
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| _jesusfish_ | how much better, performance-wise, is 64-bit over 32-bit? | 06:46 |
| _jesusfish_ | using Kubuntu, that is | 06:46 |
| seaLne | doing what? | 06:46 |
| _jesusfish_ | in general | 06:47 |
| nikkia | hmmmm, wiccan spam, something isn't right with that | 06:47 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: in general not a lot, for a few important things around 2x. | 06:47 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: I'm prolly going from a P4 2.0 to a Sepmron 2800+ 64-bit, wondering if I should install Kubuntu for 64-bit | 06:48 |
| nikkia | Blissex: i notice you casually dismiss the performance LOSS you'll get in some cases, too :) | 06:48 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: depends a lot on what you do. | 06:48 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: mainly desktop use, some kernel building/compiling, and audio encoding | 06:49 |
| Blissex | nikkia: that is rare and not very big. And he asked about increases :-) | 06:49 |
| nikkia | Blissex: i wouldn't call it rare | 06:49 |
| nikkia | Blissex: anything that hammers pointers a lot, is going to incur a speed loss | 06:49 |
| nikkia | and a decrease is just a negative increase, so its still relevant to the question :P | 06:49 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: audio (and video) encoding may be rather better :-) | 06:50 |
| Blissex | nikkia: nah, losses because of the doubling of pointer sizes tend to be minimal, because of caching etc. | 06:50 |
| _jesusfish_ | it also means I'll have setup a 32-bit environment for Flash, etc | 06:50 |
| nikkia | blissex, umm, in those situations, caching quality is decreases, as your cache size is reduced | 06:50 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: thats the big deal. | 06:50 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: which I don't really mind doing, if I decide it's worthwhile to go 64-bit | 06:51 |
| nikkia | _jesusfish_: tbh, unless you have a need for 64bit, right now, the problems outweight the benefits, by a long way | 06:51 |
| nikkia | ie, no up-to-date KDE, many packages missing, etc | 06:51 |
| _jesusfish_ | nikkia: perfect, that's what I needed to hear | 06:52 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: in AMD64 mode the really big advantages are: much better floating point, much better encryption, much large programs. | 06:52 |
| _jesusfish_ | nikkia: thx | 06:52 |
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| nikkia | Blissex: the floating point is identical between 32bit and 64bit modes | 06:52 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: but yes as <nikkia> says it is a bit of a haddle to have 64 bits. | 06:52 |
| nikkia | AMD did not touch the FPU at all when they 'upgraded' the x86 architecture :) | 06:52 |
| Blissex | nikkia: no, it is completely different. | 06:52 |
| _jesusfish_ | ya, doesn't really matter that much | 06:52 |
| nikkia | (erm, that is, touched it from the Athlon XP) | 06:52 |
| _jesusfish_ | my 2800+ should smoke my 2.0 anyways | 06:53 |
| nikkia | the 'number of registers' issue should be a minimal difference too, since the A64 should be using those registers regardless, just using register renaming in 32bit mode to utilise them | 06:54 |
| Blissex | nikkia: not that much... | 06:54 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: ah yes, it should be indeed a lot faster. | 06:54 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: costing me next to nothing to upgrade | 06:54 |
| sik | hi | 06:55 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: if you want more speed, make sure you get a processor with the 512K cache, and possibly 1M cache, that really helps with the sort of stuff you want to do. | 06:55 |
| sik | does anybody know how to get gpsdrive working without lags? | 06:55 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: which might rule out the Sempron though, because most Semprons are half cache. | 06:56 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: it may be a good investment to spend a bit more on the bigger cache CPU, even at a lower speed grade. | 06:57 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: too much of a price dif | 06:57 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: I don't have any really heavy needs anyways | 06:58 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: it'd cost me about 2x to go to A64 | 06:58 |
| libben | if i wanna install plugins to firefox? i dont go download them with the built in firefox plugin manager? ill apt-get install flashsupport? | 06:59 |
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| _jesusfish_ | libben: depends | 06:59 |
| _jesusfish_ | libben: for flash, you get the Kbuntu flash packages | 06:59 |
| _jesusfish_ | libben: I don't think the plugin manager actually provides many Linux plugins anyways, actually | 07:00 |
| libben | macromedia? | 07:00 |
| _jesusfish_ | ya | 07:00 |
| libben | weird that it doesnt work with the built in manager | 07:01 |
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| _jesusfish_ | libben: there's too many linux platforms for it to really work well | 07:01 |
| libben | flashplayer-mozilla | 07:01 |
| libben | what more do i need? | 07:01 |
| _jesusfish_ | libben: whatever you want :) | 07:02 |
| _jesusfish_ | libben: maybe java at some point | 07:02 |
| libben | if i select flash-mozilla | 07:03 |
| _jesusfish_ | but none are _needed_ | 07:03 |
| libben | it will install the dep mozilla-browser | 07:03 |
| libben | i dont want a third browser =( | 07:03 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: thats unlikely, I'll have a look. | 07:03 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: where I am, it's how it is | 07:03 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: the difference between Sempron and A64 should not be that large... | 07:04 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: unlucky though. | 07:04 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: Sempron 2800+ 64-bit is $89CAD, cheapest A64 is $189 | 07:04 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: impressive. Also because CA$89 is really a low price. | 07:04 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: ya...that's pretty much why I'm doing this...wasn't actually planned | 07:05 |
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| Blissex | _jesusfish_: if you are really a value shopper you might just want to upgrade to a 32 bit athlon. There are impressively low priced Barton CPUs around. | 07:06 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: I have a friend who needs a computer, and have a lot of extra parts laying around...so I sell her my board, cpu, ram and toss it with my extra parts, and I pretty much have a free upgrade | 07:06 |
| nikkia | Blissex: *shrug* sounds about fair, 48 here | 07:06 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: not many Socket A's here now | 07:06 |
| Blissex | nikkia: canadian dollars are so cheap that translates to almost nothing :-) | 07:07 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: thats the poblem indeed. | 07:07 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: any way I go, it's better than what I have | 07:07 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: yes, thats not a bad idea. | 07:08 |
| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: and I help a friend out at the same time | 07:08 |
| nikkia | 48 = CA$104, but that 48 is including tax, which the CA$89 probably isn't | 07:08 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: you have been quibbling about second order effects. | 07:08 |
| nikkia | without tax, its 41, or CA$88 | 07:08 |
| Blissex | _jesusfish_: so me too. | 07:08 |
| _jesusfish_ | lol | 07:08 |
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| _jesusfish_ | Blissex: my PowerBook does most of my heavy work | 07:09 |
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| ^rob^ | howdy | 07:10 |
| ^rob^ | does anybody know if quanta can use subversion? - or is there any plgn for quanta for subversion? | 07:10 |
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| libben | should i install the update in azureus? | 07:18 |
| libben | some kind of a tracker it says | 07:18 |
| libben | I need a ftp program that can handle ssl .. i would love the flashfxp version for linux,... wich one ? | 07:32 |
| libben | http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/gnex_faq.htm | 07:34 |
| libben | sorry | 07:34 |
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| libben | damit | 07:35 |
| libben | i cant contiune on downloading. | 07:35 |
| libben | ive copied my unfinished files from xp partition that i got moounted... to my home folder. | 07:36 |
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| libben | and when i loaded .torrent file the same one i used on winxp,.. it tells me it cant download... it did start the check all the way up to 73 percent where i stopped it in windows..... and then when its gonna continue load from there.. it says error. | 07:38 |
| libben | can it be because it dont has right chmod values? | 07:38 |
| libben | havent used chmod before | 07:38 |
| libben | anyone ? | 07:44 |
| MxxCon | libben try to get flashfxp running with wine | 07:46 |
| libben | MxxCon: well that one is easy to do... | 07:47 |
| libben | but ill allways get promted with that my version is not valid. | 07:47 |
| libben | cause i had have it installed way longer then the demo lets me have it. | 07:48 |
| libben | and it senses it. and i cant be able to type in the reg key for it either =( | 07:48 |
| libben | so its a bummer there | 07:48 |
| libben | anyone wanna help me let me open up the rights for my folder ? | 07:51 |
| MxxCon | are you accessing file on windows partition? | 07:52 |
| libben | no, ive copied it over to my ~/dvd-r folder | 07:53 |
| libben | and when i loaded it in azureus to catch up on where i left it on downloading it says it cant | 07:53 |
| libben | well, the output is alot more then that =) | 07:53 |
| libben | but i figure its something with the rights when i copied it over | 07:54 |
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| MxxCon | you better off asking in az channel..it might be something specific to that client | 07:55 |
| MxxCon | it's on this network | 07:56 |
| libben | well, the problem is a linux problem and not a az problem | 07:56 |
| libben | i figure it has something with the rights of my folder that i copied. | 07:56 |
| MxxCon | you sure? you can resume that file with another bt client? | 07:56 |
| MxxCon | so try 'chmod 755 file' | 07:56 |
| libben | can i do chmodd 755 folder? | 07:57 |
| libben | and what does 755 ? | 07:57 |
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| MxxCon | 755 numbers relate to owner, group, everybody | 08:01 |
| MxxCon | numbers are created by: 1 is execute, 2 is write, 4 is read | 08:01 |
| MxxCon | sum of all or part of 1, 2, 4 gives you result above | 08:02 |
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| MxxCon | so owner can read,write,execute, group and everybody can read and execute but not write | 08:03 |
| _manuel | Hi, is it possible to export a ssh session via vnc? something like linuxvnc package | 08:03 |
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| Red_Bullet | pleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!??? | 08:04 |
| Red_Bullet | :(( | 08:10 |
| Red_Bullet | no body knows | 08:10 |
| Red_Bullet | :(( | 08:10 |
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| flaviu | I've got a problem....I can't acces synaptic , nor kynaptic | 08:11 |
| flaviu | if I write in the konsole sudo synaptic I receive the following error: | 08:11 |
| flaviu | synaptic:8107): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: | 08:11 |
| flaviu | if I write sudo kynaptic , I receive this: | 08:12 |
| flaviu | kynaptic: cannot connect to X server | 08:12 |
| flaviu | can anyone help ? | 08:12 |
| seaLne | they are graphical progs, just run them and they should prompt for your passwd | 08:12 |
| libben | or kdesu | 08:14 |
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| slow-motion | press alt+f2 and write the name of the programm | 08:16 |
| libben | where can i edit the shortcuts ? =) | 08:16 |
| libben | control center? | 08:17 |
| libben | havent looked yet | 08:17 |
| flaviu | yep...I've tryed | 08:17 |
| flaviu | but nothing happens if I write kynoptic | 08:17 |
| slow-motion | right klick on the k button and there is a option for editing the menu | 08:18 |
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| flaviu | If I write synoptic it sais that I should run that program as root user | 08:18 |
| slow-motion | right klick on the k button and there is a option for editing the menu | 08:18 |
| jjesse | to launch kynaptic you need to kdesu first from the run command (kdesu kynaptic) | 08:20 |
| flaviu | thanks jjesse , it works | 08:21 |
| flaviu | :D | 08:21 |
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| seaLne | ah right sorry i just use apt-cache/apt-get as i find them easier | 08:22 |
| seaLne | hmm i can run kynaptic fine with out kdesu before it | 08:24 |
| seaLne | ignore that | 08:24 |
| flaviu | :) | 08:24 |
| flaviu | for me it's fine with kdesu before | 08:24 |
| flaviu | :) | 08:24 |
| flaviu | one more question... | 08:25 |
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| flaviu | what's the name of the package ( plugin ) with wich I can see the flashes on a web page ? | 08:25 |
| OculusAquilae | flaviu: libflash-swfplugin | 08:27 |
| OculusAquilae | flaviu: libflash-mozplugin | 08:27 |
| OculusAquilae | not swf | 08:28 |
| flaviu | thanks | 08:29 |
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| lwizardl | hi | 08:35 |
| lwizardl | i want to format a ntfs drive for use (read/write) access in linux. how do i do it? | 08:36 |
| jjesse | you want to keep the ntfs file partition or change it? | 08:37 |
| lwizardl | change it | 08:38 |
| lwizardl | i just had drivers saved to it | 08:38 |
| lwizardl | i've got them on cdrw now | 08:38 |
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| libben | why isnt there a good ftp program that handles ssl connections any good? and with gui.. | 09:06 |
| nalioth | gftp doesnt work? | 09:06 |
| libben | never managed to login to my friends server that uses ssl before when i was on ubuntu | 09:06 |
| nalioth | lwizardl: use parted to wipe that puppy (g- and qt- variants available) | 09:07 |
| libben | havent tried on this installation... but i never got it to work 6 months ago on ubuntu. | 09:07 |
| libben | nalioth i got azureus to work btw. | 09:07 |
| _jesusfish_ | libben: KDE has good ftp built in | 09:07 |
| nalioth | libben: really? what was the holdup? | 09:07 |
| libben | dont know... but ive installed flashplugin-nonfree before i tried it after a reboot of the box.. and all suddenly it started to work | 09:08 |
| libben | thinking of remove the app i have for azureus.. cause i can only start it by ./azureus. think i can install the one from synaptic.. and then update it within the program.. cause its only java? | 09:09 |
| nalioth | libben: would you like to learn a trick? | 09:09 |
| libben | yeah | 09:09 |
| nalioth | not a trick, actually | 09:09 |
| libben | shoot shoot | 09:12 |
| MxxCon | libben what version of ffxp did you try with wine? | 09:12 |
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| nalioth | libben: if you put your azureus folder in /usr/local/bin/ you can use your kde menu mangler to run a link to it | 09:13 |
| libben | the newest i think... | 09:13 |
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| chakie | hm, a io-slave i'm trying to compile wants the header kswap.h, but i can't find any such header in the dev packages for my 3.4.2 | 09:14 |
| libben | menu mangler? | 09:14 |
| libben | explain further. | 09:14 |
| crimsun | chakie: kdelibs4-dev | 09:15 |
| chakie | ii kdelibs4-dev 3.4.2-0ubuntu0 development files for the KDE core libraries | 09:15 |
| nalioth | libben: in kde you have a menu editor | 09:15 |
| libben | yes | 09:16 |
| libben | in there now | 09:16 |
| crimsun | chakie: you should have /usr/include/kde/kswap.h | 09:16 |
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| chakie | ls: /usr/include/kde/kswap.h: No such file or directory | 09:16 |
| crimsun | chakie: hoary or breezy? | 09:16 |
| chakie | hoary | 09:16 |
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| chakie | with the 3.4.2 packages added | 09:17 |
| crimsun | it should exist under Horay | 09:17 |
| crimsun | Hoary^ | 09:17 |
| chakie | find /usr/include/ -name "kswap.h" | 09:17 |
| chakie | nothing found | 09:17 |
| nalioth | libben: /usr/local/bin is where you put programs YOU compile or add to the system, putting the azureus folder there, gets it into your $PATH, and out of your homedir | 09:17 |
| libben | yeah,... ive remember little from that ive learnt like 5 months ago | 09:18 |
| chakie | maybe the packages have by mistake left some headers out | 09:18 |
| chakie | this would be the ipod io-slave, so i can't play with my brand new toy before i get this compiled :) | 09:18 |
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| crimsun | crimsun@warped:~$ dpkg-deb -c kdelibs4-dev_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.3_i386.deb |grep kswap | 09:19 |
| crimsun | -rw-r--r-- root/root 10743 2004-11-06 17:16:29 ./usr/include/kde/kswap.h | 09:19 |
| crimsun | it definitely exists in hoary-security's package, which is 3.4, but if they don't exist in 3.4.2, then yes, it would seem to be a packaging issue | 09:19 |
| libben | nalioth so then what in kde menu editor ? just create a shortcut in there with run command "azureus" ? | 09:19 |
| nalioth | libben: i assume there is a "browse" button in kmenuedit | 09:20 |
| nalioth | point it at the azureus shell script | 09:20 |
| chakie | crimsun: this i see with google (no link): "+ * Adding kswap.h to the package. It's no longer used in kdelibs. ." | 09:20 |
| chakie | that's the changelog for the ipodslave | 09:20 |
| chakie | i'd better just get the cvs version | 09:20 |
| crimsun | sounds like a plan | 09:20 |
| chakie | yup | 09:22 |
| libben | nalioth so what this does... puts it as it was normally installed via deb? | 09:22 |
| nalioth | libben: no, if /azureus now rides in /usr/local/bin, then it's what would happen if you compiled it yourself | 09:22 |
| libben | well its in the path so i can type azureus everywhere and it will start | 09:25 |
| MxxCon | so...i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04, any ideas? | 09:25 |
| nalioth | libben: not quite | 09:25 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: it's not in the repos? | 09:26 |
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| MxxCon | i see only 1.51 | 09:27 |
| MxxCon | The new Red 5 Studios Website is online for this new MMOG developer based in Southern California formed by former members of Blizzard's World of Warcraft team. Here's the announcement: | 09:28 |
| MxxCon | Welcome to Red 5. We are quietly at work, building the world$(B!G(Bs best MMO team here in Southern California. Red 5$(B!G(Bs founders share a history of making hit games for companies such as Blizzard Entertainment. After o | 09:28 |
| MxxCon | oops, sorry | 09:28 |
| MxxCon | i found 1.60 .deb files but they don't install cuase of dependancies | 09:28 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: if that's so, then you'll need to either look in backports, or compile from the wild. are you using the 3.4.2 KDE? | 09:29 |
| MxxCon | yes, 3.4.2 | 09:29 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: best option is to compile from the wild, then. Debian pkgs can break your system | 09:30 |
| MxxCon | oh ya, i think i found that 1.60 .deb in backports | 09:30 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: if in b/p it should have dependencies to use with it | 09:30 |
| chakie | darn, the cvs version of the ipodslave is currently badly broken | 09:30 |
| MxxCon | i looked into compiling it, but i started selecting missing packages and it turned into a mile long train :) | 09:30 |
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| MxxCon | libxext, x11lib, qt3-mt, etc etc etc etc...i'd have to install like 70megs worth of dev packages | 09:32 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: such is the life of the dweller on the razors edge | 09:32 |
| MxxCon | (not in gentoo world ;) | 09:32 |
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| lwells | hi | 09:33 |
| lwells | I have a question | 09:33 |
| nalioth | lwells: ask away | 09:33 |
| lwells | I have Kubuntu and i have KDE running, I cannot find the file manager | 09:34 |
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| nalioth | lwells: konqueror? | 09:34 |
| lwells | is Konqueror the file manager? | 09:34 |
| MxxCon | i'm kinda surprised that repo wasn't updated yet..1.60 was released a few month ago and is pretty significant update | 09:34 |
| MxxCon | lwells it's like IE in windows..it's both file manager and browser | 09:35 |
| nalioth | lwells: yes it is, also a web browser | 09:35 |
| lwells | oh ok, just so used to the window file manager | 09:35 |
| nalioth | lwells: konqueror will seem familiar to you, then | 09:35 |
| lwells | how do you get the tree to show on the side | 09:36 |
| chavo | lwells, hit F9 | 09:37 |
| chavo | there are a few plugins that can go in the sidebar -> F9 | 09:37 |
| chavo | hit the little home Icon for a tree view | 09:37 |
| lwells | wow very nice thanks | 09:38 |
| chavo | or the Red Folder for a tree view that starts at the base filesystem | 09:38 |
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| chavo | konqueror is like explorer on steroids | 09:39 |
| lwells | is this room always available for help? | 09:39 |
| chavo | with Tabs! | 09:39 |
| chavo | yeah and #kde is good also | 09:39 |
| chavo | or #ubuntu , it's always packed | 09:40 |
| MxxCon | also help file :D | 09:40 |
| lwells | can i get general linux help here too? | 09:40 |
| nalioth | lwells: certainly | 09:40 |
| chavo | yes, KDE help system rocks also | 09:40 |
| nalioth | lwells: and maybe winduhs help, too | 09:40 |
| nalioth | but not from me, lol | 09:40 |
| chavo | I'm teh winduhs expert | 09:41 |
| MxxCon | lwells you should try krusader | 09:41 |
| MxxCon | much better file manager | 09:41 |
| lwells | krusader? | 09:41 |
| chavo | yuck | 09:41 |
| nalioth | lwells: krusader is a kde version of mc | 09:41 |
| MxxCon | more like kde version of tc | 09:41 |
| chavo | can you preview your media files in krusader? | 09:42 |
| MxxCon | chavo on mouseover? | 09:42 |
| chavo | it is 2005, you know | 09:42 |
| MxxCon | you can just like in konq | 09:42 |
| nalioth | MxxCon: really? mine always wants to pop open some other proggy | 09:43 |
| chavo | Hmm, haven't tried it in a while. but konq just flat out rocks | 09:43 |
| lwells | you guys are a great resource | 09:43 |
| lwells | i just converted this old laptop to Kubuntu | 09:43 |
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| lwells | what other channels are there that are good | 09:46 |
| MxxCon | depends on topic | 09:47 |
| lwells | linux help | 09:48 |
| MxxCon | start with google. self-education is the best way to learn | 09:49 |
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| lwells | i do have a question, is there a way to put the home folder on the desktop? | 09:49 |
| nalioth | lwells: you can drag it in konqueror and 'link' it there, if you wish | 09:50 |
| MxxCon | my personal rule is if after 30min of googling/trying to fix something i fail, i ask. | 09:51 |
| lwells | yes that worked, great | 09:51 |
| MxxCon | any other way is being lazy | 09:51 |
| lwells | i know, i know, i usually just look it up myself | 09:52 |
| lwells | but this is great chat site | 09:52 |
| MxxCon | (this is not a site) | 09:52 |
| lwells | ok, IRC room then | 09:52 |
| nalioth | lwells: enjoy your 'new to unix' glow. im usually handing out fishing poles to folks | 09:53 |
| lwells | fishing poles? | 09:53 |
| lwells | one last question? | 09:54 |
| lwells | can you make the icons on the desktop bigger?? | 09:54 |
| MxxCon | yes | 09:54 |
| nalioth | lwells: you can change ANYTHING you see in your new box | 09:55 |
| lwells | How do I do that? | 09:55 |
| MxxCon | go to control center | 09:55 |
| MxxCon | and look there | 09:55 |
| nalioth | lwells: this is not windows | 09:55 |
| nalioth | lwells: i believe in teaching folks to fish | 09:55 |
| lwells | ok i get it, lol | 09:55 |
| MxxCon | what nalioth is trying to say: RTFM :D | 09:55 |
| nalioth | the whole parable goes: "give a man a fish, he eats once. teach a man to fish, he eats steadily" | 09:56 |
| nalioth | or something to that effect | 09:56 |
| lwells | paraphrasing | 09:57 |
| lwells | but i get it | 09:57 |
| nalioth | lwells: hanging out in #kubuntu and #ubuntu helping people will teach you a lot, also | 09:58 |
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| lwells | well thanks for all your help | 10:03 |
| nalioth | lwells: np | 10:03 |
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| libben | I run my kde at 1600x1200@85 hz, but its damn hard to read firefox | 10:10 |
| libben | is there any better font or something that i can change | 10:11 |
| nalioth | libben: in firefox prefs, can you change the font size? | 10:11 |
| libben | yes i can. but isnt there a better font or something? | 10:12 |
| Blissex | libben: yes. | 10:13 |
| nalioth | libben: this is linux, you can run wingdings if you like | 10:14 |
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| libben | windings==windows? =) | 10:15 |
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| libben | or u ment the windings font? i think there is one called that =) | 10:15 |
| nalioth | the font | 10:15 |
| nalioth | of chaos | 10:15 |
| libben | Blissex: wich one? | 10:15 |
| chavo | libben, apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | 10:16 |
| chavo | then you can change the font and style for firefox | 10:16 |
| libben | allready has it installed =) | 10:17 |
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| chavo | aha | 10:19 |
| Blissex | libben: get the 'msttcorefonts' package. | 10:19 |
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| libben | thats the one... installed that when i was ubuntu long time ago.... | 10:20 |
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| MxxCon | libben, you should figure out how to correct specify your physical monitor size, then all fonts and icons should adjust accordingly | 10:27 |
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| libben | ? | 10:30 |
| libben | xplain further please. =) | 10:30 |
| pussfeller | does ndiswarapper on kubuntu already have the win drivers? | 10:30 |
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| ilba7r | !esd | 10:36 |
| ubotu | esd is probably Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously. | 10:36 |
| nalioth | pussfeller: no ndis wrapper has MS files | 10:37 |
| Red_Bullet | tell me how to install the best video program for linux | 10:37 |
| Red_Bullet | end which is the best | 10:37 |
| Red_Bullet | program | 10:37 |
| Red_Bullet | please | 10:37 |
| nalioth | Red_Bullet: quit repeating | 10:37 |
| nalioth | Red_Bullet: mplayer, xine, vlc, kaffeine, noatun are all video players | 10:38 |
| nalioth | Red_Bullet: install them all and use the one(s) you like | 10:38 |
| slow-motion | does someone knows how i can teach xmms utf-8? i read different websites, but nothing really helps me | 10:38 |
| Red_Bullet | but | 10:38 |
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| Red_Bullet | kynaptic could't found | 10:39 |
| chx | I got a window totally off screen. How can I grab it to move it on screen...? (the bug leading to this is in bugzilla and being worked on) | 10:39 |
| nalioth | !tell Red_Bullet about sources | 10:39 |
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| chx | nalioth: hi | 10:41 |
| nalioth | chx: howdy | 10:41 |
| chx | nalioth: I renamed my monitor to monitower :D | 10:42 |
| nalioth | chx: right click on the button with the offscreen programs name on it | 10:42 |
| nalioth | chx: click "move" and use your arrow keys to bring the dogie back into the corral | 10:43 |
| chx | nalioth: and then...? no move in that menu | 10:43 |
| nalioth | chx: i keep forgetting i'm not in #ubuntu | 10:43 |
| chx | minimize, maximize, shade, always on top, close | 10:43 |
| nalioth | chx: is it on another desktop? | 10:44 |
| MxxCon | chx go to control center, keyboard shortcuts and assign one to move window | 10:44 |
| MxxCon | then active that offscreen app and move it | 10:44 |
| chx | nalioth: it's just off screen due a bug -- KDE desktop does not resize on xrandr -left | 10:44 |
| libben | any tip on a font for firefox to make it look good in most sites? | 10:45 |
| chx | MxxCon: brilliant idea. | 10:45 |
| pussfeller | get the msfonts libben | 10:47 |
| chx | MxxCon: and how could I do that...? DCOP call...? | 10:48 |
| libben | pussfeller: allready done that. | 10:50 |
| Red_Bullet | !tell Red_Bullet about sources | 10:50 |
| libben | wondering on wich one to use. | 10:50 |
| libben | whats the common one that everyone else use | 10:50 |
| nalioth | Red_Bullet: you can /msg the bot for any factoid you like or /msg ubotu help | 10:50 |
| Red_Bullet | oo 10x | 10:51 |
| Red_Bullet | :) | 10:51 |
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| hussam | will the breezy preview release be out today? | 10:53 |
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| chx | how could I assign a hotkey to "Move Window"? | 10:57 |
| MxxCon | did you find where to do it? | 10:57 |
| iKel | I'm trying to get my system up and running correctly and I can't change the resolution higher than 800x600.. | 10:58 |
| chx | MxxCon: I know KHotKeys | 10:58 |
| iKel | My guess is I need some video card drivers. How do I go about getting and installing those? | 10:58 |
| chx | MxxCon: in the Action submenu the only relevant stuff I can think of is a DCOP Call. | 10:58 |
| MxxCon | it's in 'System->Window->Move windows' | 10:59 |
| MxxCon | global shortcuts | 10:59 |
| chx | Global Shortcuts! | 10:59 |
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| chx | MxxCon: i was in KhotKeys instead of Keyboard Shortcuts | 11:00 |
| hussam | iKel: how high can your monitor go? | 11:00 |
| iKel | hussam: 168x1050 | 11:01 |
| iKel | *1680x1050 | 11:01 |
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| hussam | iKel: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:03 |
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| hussam | iKel: under section screen | 11:05 |
| chx | iKel: welcome to the club! ask me. anything regarding your screen. I bought a Dell 2005FPW yesterday, same res. | 11:06 |
| hussam | iKel: add the modes you want, "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" etc... | 11:07 |
| iKel | hussam: It has the mode 1280x1024 in the config file (which is probably all this card can handle) yet I cannot change it in the Display settings. | 11:07 |
| chx | iKel: which card, which driver? | 11:08 |
| iKel | chx: Cool! I love this monitor. I actually have two of them side by side | 11:08 |
| iKel | chx: ATI Rage II | 11:08 |
| chx | iKel: I'd love one , too | 11:08 |
| chx | ATI Rage II ? man, you spent a thousand dollars (at least, whatever your currency is) on monitors and you have a Rage II??? For $50 you can get a pretty good card these days. | 11:09 |
| chx | but still, I'd recommend ATI binary drivers. | 11:10 |
| iKel | chx: haha, I have pentium D with a GeForce 6800 to power both monitors. I'm just trying to get another machine setup. | 11:10 |
| iKel | unfortunately it's not mine... I'm at work. =( | 11:11 |
| chx | try | 11:11 |
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| chx | Option "XrandR" "On" | 11:11 |
| chx | in the device section | 11:12 |
| chx | I use that for rotate, but it's X Resize and Rotate so maybe it helps you too :) | 11:12 |
| iKel | it won't let me save the config file | 11:16 |
| iKel | says I don't have access | 11:16 |
| hussam | iKel: the xconfig file? you have to do it as root. use sudo | 11:22 |
| iKel | I'm unfamiliar with sudo | 11:23 |
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| iKel | I have the config file open in Kate. | 11:24 |
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| hussam | iKel: sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:30 |
| iKel | cool thanks | 11:30 |
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| hussam | iKel: or sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( doesn't matter what text editor you use ) | 11:34 |
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| hussam | according to here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule , breezy preview release should be out today. Is it out yet? | 11:37 |
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| pussfeller | !sources | 11:41 |
| ubotu | sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 | 11:41 |
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| othernoob | does anyone in here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer? | 11:47 |
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| lwizardl | hi | 11:54 |
| lwizardl | in terminal how do i get to my hdd1 drive ? | 11:54 |
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| libben | how do i extract 91 rar files? that only has extension .001 - .099 | 12:00 |
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