=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.167] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] libben: you have private messages [12:06] sorry =) yeah [12:06] dident noticed u there === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] nalioth: [12:19] now what =) [12:19] its insatlled with dpkg -i file.deb [12:19] libben: prefaced with "sudo" [12:20] java -version says | java version "1.5.0_04" | Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_04-b05) | Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_04-b05, mixed mode, sharing) [12:20] yeah i did sudo dpkg -i debfile [12:20] libben: ok now try your cursed azureus === nalioth hates java apps [12:21] need to install it again theb [12:21] then [12:21] it was removed with a dep [12:21] should i install azurus from the site? [12:21] or with apt-get ? [12:21] libben: how skilled are you at linux system administration? [12:24] well i can pipe and grep, i can the installation process pretty good,... but building my own kernel and installing packages without deb is not my thing... tryed it a couple of times... need a teacher =) I wanna learn.. but its hard when ever u got stuck u ask for help.. u get the whole solution.. when u need a good tut or more explaining. [12:24] ive spent many hours on reading mans.. but thats not easy for a noob either [12:25] libben: got a simple solution [12:25] libben: "checkinstall" [12:25] whats that? [12:25] program that builds debs from ppls bins ? [12:27] nope [12:27] it takes the place of "make install" in teh build process [12:27] the debs it makes arent to debian standards, but they make it easy to remove/manipulate === narg [n=narg@dsl-65-171-97-57.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82.43.184.143] has left #kubuntu [] [12:29] why aint it debian standards? if it now makes debs =) good q i find it yes =) reading on the authors site right now. [12:29] libben: it isnt debian standard, because then it'd be "dpkg-buildpackage" [12:29] now its just dpkg -i [12:30] ? [12:30] so its really no diffrence ill take it. [12:31] works the same as a debian standard deb [12:31] but aint one [12:31] k [12:31] downloading the azureus tarball file from its homepage. [12:32] think the process was something like, ./configure and make make install something... [12:32] its says what i should do in the readme files? if there is one [12:33] libben: correct [12:34] except cursed java programs dont make or compile [12:34] lol [12:34] i just read it now [12:34] lol [12:34] so what this.. === Pandziura [n=root@217.129.129.117] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] i just extract it,.. and then run their script with ./azuerus? [12:34] if ill understand it correctly [12:35] libben: correct [12:35] but when i installed it with the synaptic.. i could just typ azureus in terminal... and hit enter and it would start (err fail to start for me then *smiles*) how do i make this one to the whole system like that? [12:36] hmmm. what's the command line tool for exploring which packages you have installed? [12:36] dpkg -l [12:36] i'm getting lazy [12:36] to much pointy clicky [12:36] thanks [12:36] better use dpkg -l | grep package [12:36] so u have a faster and clearer view [12:36] libben azureus makes it diffecult [12:36] like dpkg -l | grep sun for all the sun things that is installed [12:37] libben: hint /usr/local/bin/ is in your $PATH [12:37] I'm getting all the debian and freebsd pkg commands crossed in my brain... [12:38] nalioth k, thats the path for the whole system... that means what.. what should i do with it ? [12:38] place a shortcut there ? === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] libben: that is not the path for the whole system. /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin and /bin/ are the systems folders [12:38] libben: anything YOU compile, should go in /usr/local/ [12:39] k, but i havent compiled azureus.. [12:39] =) [12:39] and its nothing to compile [12:39] i do not recommend this for new users (whomoever may resemble that label) [12:39] libben: but i placed my azureus folder inside /usr/local/bin [12:39] yeah, i thaught about that too [12:39] and it worked ? === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] yes, with some tweaking (see above: azureus makes it diffecult) [12:41] k... [12:41] so i should be happy with a shortcut in menu that just launches the ~./azureus [12:42] libben: yes [12:42] time to make a apps folder then and put it in there. [12:46] Linux and nVidia rocks. There is hope that I'll find support for rotated display... === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] hi. with xine I get a blue background. googled. Added Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" to xorg.conf. Have GF4MX. What now :) ? === ARAJABAT [n=Deivison@200.102.91.211] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] how can I change on the fly the bit depth? ie without restarting KDE? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === ARAJABAT [n=Deivison@200.102.91.211] has left #kubuntu [] === MCCPicky [n=ubuntu@CPE-203-51-65-189.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] gah [01:14] i've just spent 3 hours trying to get emacs to handle comments the way i want [01:14] what a pointless waste of time === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] nikkia: pointless? [01:17] nalioth: well, i didn't succeed, and its all to avoid typing an extra '*' occasionally [01:17] nikkia: the perfection is in the pursuit [01:17] nalioth: not when it feels hopeless [01:17] what annoys me the most, is i *HAD* this working on my knoppix system, so i know its possible [01:18] but that was using 'happycoders' POS emacs scripts [01:18] nikkia: so where is the .conf or .rc from teh knoppix box? [01:18] and i refuse to install that just for one feature, when it makes so many other things go 'wrong' [01:18] nalioth: oh, i have the scripts, just won't install them, problem is finding where in the scripts the comment handling is done [01:18] happycoders is a HUGE package of 'developer settings' for emacs [01:18] sadly, the bad outweighs the good, IMO [01:19] nikkia: :( [01:19] one thing the HC stuff does that i really hate, is mark all long lines as 'red for danger' [01:20] danger danger? [01:20] heh [01:20] so you get lines you *can't* break, like literal strings, and they're all red because some asshat at HC thinks thats a bad programming practice [01:20] nikkia: wow what a mouth :0 === nalioth knows zilch about emacs or vi or vim or pretty much anything else [01:21] nalioth: the issue boils down to this... [01:21] i like my comments to be on lines like: "/***" "* This is a comment" "*" " */" [01:22] emacs can auto-indent and format comment blocks, by pressing alt-J instead of return, but the default doesn't put that * in the start of a continued comment line [01:22] ok [01:25] the situation is made worse given that 'comment' is a totally useless search word on the net [01:25] all it does, is matches a trillion useless blogs [01:26] nikkia: yes it does === nalioth wishes he could help, but is clueless === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] hmmm [01:29] getting somewhere again === koalah [n=koalah@ppp161.fd.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] any problems if I kynaptic gnome? [01:32] bingo! got it! :) [01:33] have ke and dial-up [01:33] *kde [01:33] koalah: no problems, it'll take a while tho [01:33] how large approx? === nikkia shrugs [01:34] lol [01:34] somewhere around 50-100MB at a guess [01:34] if connection drops will it continue where it left off? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] koalah: install "ubuntu-desktop" [01:36] koalah: yes, if you lose connection, it will pick back up [01:36] cool [01:36] nalioth: within limits [01:36] nikkia: perfection is in the pursuit [01:36] nalioth: i don't think apt-get always resumes the current download, but it will resume from the start of the last package, at worst case [01:37] nikkia: koalah will not have to d/l all that has gone b4 [01:37] nalioth: it CAN be a big deal on dialup tho, especially if you have cutoffs [01:37] i had to give up on apt-get'ing OOo once for that reason, i couldn't complete one of the packages in the 2hrs before cutoff [01:38] nikkia: ouch [01:38] koalah: in that case, disrgard "ubuntu-desktop" [01:38] every 7 hours I drop, along with the annoying randoms :) [01:39] nalioth: nah, ubuntu-desktop should be ok [01:39] it's frustrating to sau the least [01:39] if it depends on anything BIG, like OOo, i think kubuntu-desktop has that anyway [01:39] koalah: try gnome-desktop-environment [01:39] k [01:40] koalah: i dont belive oOo is tacked onto that [01:40] but on dialup, its unlikely you want *all* of gnome and its myriad of small utilities anyway :) [01:40] koalah: so what nikkia is saying, is start synaptic and see what your gnome options are [01:40] koalah: ubuntu-desktop WILL install oOo and other large things [01:41] just have kynaptic [01:41] k [01:41] nalioth: basically, yeah, i'm advocating installing the basic gnome packages, then picking and choosing individual stuff, anything else will drive you mad on dialup [01:41] koalah: kynaptic, synaptic, same thing [01:41] nikkia: understood. did not know koalah was on a small pipe [01:42] whooohooo!! [01:42] one good thing came out of all my messing with emacs :) [01:43] its now made it into my 'most used apps' list on the kde menu :) [01:43] nikkia: perfection? [01:43] been waiting weeks for that to happen, but sadly, i only start it once or twice a week usually === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] lots of things don't work the same on ppc kubuntu, i've found === gsanse [n=Bene@c90c4709.cps.virtua.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === gsanse [n=Bene@c90c4709.cps.virtua.com.br] has left #kubuntu [] === _thiago [n=thiago@200-153-187-45.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === _mike [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] <_mike> Hi, i installed KBFX to change my panel look in KDE...but it doesnt show up in any of my menus === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu === chx makes a mental note. never use nv instead of nvidia... [01:59] <_mike> ... [01:59] i spent hours with X restarting... === dave__ [n=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] ok i cannot get k3b to work for some reason === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:02] yonkeltron: what errors does it give you? [02:03] it says i need to run k3bsetup2 but i can't find it like normal and cannot run it from the system [02:03] i need to burn an iso [02:03] and i don't have alot of time [02:04] yonkeltron: did you try the k3bsetup2 from a terminal? === hvm [n=hvm@85.204.110.184] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] i know this is not actually a linux problem but can someone help me to set up Kontact to send and receive mail properly? === koalah [n=koalah@ppp161.fd.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] hvm: i'm not familiar with kontact. i use t-bird [02:07] hvm: should be fairly simple, what source is your email? [02:09] uh, gmail [02:11] hvm: then log into your gmail account using a browser and there is a walkthrough on setting up your client [02:11] ok, 10x === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] does this http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 mean that the bug mentioned herein is fixed in breezy? or is there a way to get a fix for Hoary? "libqt3c102-mt is already the newest version" and I have exactly the same problem described here. [02:23] chx: your bug is still on the loose [02:23] chx: you're looking in the "resolution" field [02:25] nalioth: look at the last comment [02:25] please [02:26] I was amazed when I first looked at the rotated screen though. Two thumbs up to nvidia and Linux. [02:26] chx: yes i see it, but it is waiting on the pkg maintainer/bug squasher to integrate the fix [02:26] i see... [02:26] chx: when he does, it will be 'resolved' [02:27] though configuring screen rotation requires a pretty solid googling skill [02:27] chx: you've lost me on "screen rotation" [02:27] i spent hours to find out that I want to include Option "RandRRotation" "on" in xorg.conf .... [02:29] nalioth: I have a screen with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 and you can rotate the screen counterclockwise. X11 RandR extension handles stuff. kcontrol supports it. But you need that line in xorg.conf to work. [02:29] landscape/portrait orientation change. portrait great for browsing and coding , landscape great for movies. [02:29] chx: i have the same resolution screen. are you sayin when you rotate yours, it changes to 1050x1680 ? [02:29] or is supposed to? [02:29] ah ok === nalioth is not up on all the fancy stuff [02:31] nalioth: look into kcontrol , peripherals, display , you'll see a bunch of radio buttons in a group called orientation though for you , i guess, most will be disabled [02:31] chx: yes, all will be disabled. (am in gnome atm, lol) [02:31] ah, I see. [02:32] i just checked the 180 degrees rotation. that's fun! [02:36] http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/acer-ferrari_4005wlmi_pro-laptop-4-n2.htm now, this is quite a something. this 15.4" TFT has the same resolution as my 20" Dell... [02:37] chx: makes for awful small icons and text, i'd imagine [02:37] holy smokes! i think my dell 20" rotates === nalioth will have to check it out later [02:38] nalioth: 2005FPW -- welcome bro! :) [02:38] dell 20 [02:38] nalioth: yes but dell sells many 20" LCDs [02:38] " was cheaper then the apple cinema display === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:39] nalioth: but otherwise the same as the apple cinema display. yes. that's it :) [02:39] holy cow it does rotate [02:39] chx: i've got it running out of my powermac [02:40] nalioth: no wonder 'cos the only difference between the apple and the dell display is that dell choosen a backlight which is 50 nit or so lighter [02:40] the reason was the $ [02:40] http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2400&p=2 [02:40] and dell comes with a 3 year warranty (apple warranty costs extra) [02:41] exactly. I bought mine today for ~ $600 (I am in Hungary) which is way less than the ~$800 - $1000 usual price and the $1500 price Apple asks... [02:42] i have not planned a monitor upgrade 'till Christmas but when I saw a 20" S-IPS panel with 3yrs warranty for 125000 HUF... [02:43] I hoped I could buy a 19" PVA/MVA for 100 000 HUF ($500 approx). This is way , way better deal. I just check the Gladiator DVD on it and was blown away. === jcta [n=jcta@201.132.225.2] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] yes, they are nice displays === nalioth is happy with his === chx too! === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] hello I need some help. I just instaled Kubuntu half an hour ago and i can't start Firefox [02:48] did you install the 'mozilla-firefox' package? [02:48] Try running it from terminal [02:50] I get "comand nto found" [02:54] jcta, kubuntu doesn't come with firefox on a standard install [02:55] you need to install the 'mozilla-firefox' package [02:55] So, I have to install it [02:59] I'm downloading Firefox with Kynaptic, Tank you === koalah [n=koalah@ppp161.fd.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] how do I change the screen resolution of blackbox? [03:02] anyone tried Adept on Hoary? === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === anaccount [n=anaccoun@68.199.211.123] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] hello everyone [03:16] does anyone know where i can obtain a kubuntu/ubuntu package of pyqt? [03:16] anaccount: use synaptic [03:17] anaccount: or kynaptic [03:17] what package though [03:18] anaccount: search in synaptic (pkg names and contents) for pyqt [03:19] python-qt3 ... is that what I should install [03:19] anaccount: yup, sounds good [03:19] ill try it === nalioth doesn't have the memory for each and every pkg === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth loves his synaptic [03:20] lol [03:20] You need PyQt to use Aero AIO configuration utility [03:20] I keep getting that [03:21] even though i just installed that package === grill [n=grill@h66.160.213.151.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] nalioth still getting the same shitty errors [03:28] anaccount: are you trying to run or compile? [03:28] i just installed via apt-get === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] hello everyone [03:28] whats up grill [03:28] anaccount: try this one python2.3-qt3 [03:29] what are we doing? [03:29] anaccount: and this one: (you can have more than one onboard) python2.4-qt3 [03:29] grill: marrying python to qt [03:29] grill: so something will work [03:29] oh :( [03:30] i just installed all the libs and devs [03:31] you know ill try the 2.4 one [03:33] still get the same shit errors [03:33] do I have to restart [03:34] you shouldn't unless it tells you to [03:34] im trying to configure a superkaramba module [03:34] what one? [03:34] and when i try to configure it it keeps telling me that I need pyqt [03:34] aero all in one [03:35] for the newest karamba === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] superkaramba that is [03:35] did you get it from kde.looking? [03:35] think so [03:36] kde-look [03:36] the module is from there [03:36] apt-get has it too have you tried that? [03:36] anaccount: a lot of that stuff takes tweaking (other than the stuff avail via the repos) [03:36] what takes tweaking [03:36] apt get has what grill [03:37] superkaramba [03:37] superkaramba in repo is .36 [03:37] i use .37 [03:37] oh okay [03:38] what should I do [03:38] ? === wagenknechta [n=wagenkne@h-66-167-166-45.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] i'd do a search on google and see if you can find the dep your missing [03:39] its only pyqt [03:39] everything else is fine [03:40] anaccount, try python-qt-dev [03:40] got it already [03:41] pyqt-tools? [03:41] not that [03:41] no [03:41] I built it without that [03:42] anaccount, python2.4-qt3 ? [03:42] got it [03:43] python2.4 not 2.3 right? [03:44] I installed both [03:44] me too [03:45] hmmm you've got python2.4-dev correct? [03:46] anaccount: since you are using an advanced SK, you probably dont have the libs you need [03:46] anaccount: you'll probably have to compile the ones you need [03:46] I've built 3.7 [03:49] fuck it [03:49] all that work for nothing === h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.92.117] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] how do I check where kwin-baghira was installed? [03:50] anaccount: you'll get the dep somewhere along the way [03:51] h17m4n: do a file search [03:51] h17m4n, waht exactly do you need to know? [03:52] h17m4n: dpkg -l [03:52] have just been trying without success to get a swansmart turbo modem up and running in knoppix 3.8, i've given up and am now install kubuntu in the hope that will work [03:52] h17m4n: that is an lowercase L not a one [03:52] well I ran sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira [03:52] it installed === orangey [n=orangey@CPE00134615de97-CM0011e6bed15b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] but it's not in the theme manager [03:52] h17m4n, baghira is a windeco not a theme [03:53] anaccount: what language is that? [03:53] a theme consists of windeco, style, color scheme, wallpaper, icons, etc. [03:53] go to Appearance and Themes -> Window Decorations [03:54] windeco? and how do I make it run? [03:54] k [03:54] thx [03:54] windeco = WIndow Decoration [03:54] wow [03:54] nice I found it [03:54] thx man [03:56] okay i'm off to bed nice meeting ya'll === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] nalioth: SYN [04:23] yonkeltron: what? [04:24] nalioth: i am back...sorry for the delay. i did try to run k3bsetup2 from a terminal along with K3bsetup2 [04:24] it's not installed and not available in the repos [04:25] yonkeltron: my k3b runs just fine as installed by apt [04:26] yeah but i am told that cdrecord doesn't have the proper permissions when i try to burn something and that i should run K3bsetup2 to correct the issue [04:26] this has happened to me before on debian when first using the system [04:26] but there was an option to run setup === chavo [n=chavo@189.sub-70-197-32.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] you installed cdrecord via apt? === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:30] don't think so [04:30] i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu [04:32] yonkeltron: remove cdrecord and reinstall it [04:33] sure thing [04:33] am i purging or just removing? === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] how do a choose a theme for kdm instead of just a wallpaper? [04:34] yonkeltron: purging if you like [04:34] actually..right now i chose a wallpaper and it won't show up..just a grey background with the login prompt in the middle === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] nalioth: it wants to take out gcombust k3b kubuntu-desktop nautilus-cd-burner ubuntu-desktop as well.....i don't know if that's the best idea [04:35] maybe i should just dpkg-reconfigure it [04:36] yonkeltron: go ahead [04:36] yonkeltron: take em all out [04:36] for real? [04:36] yonkeltron: we'll fix it in a minute [04:36] ok [04:36] gotcha [04:36] (new to ubuntu but a veteran of debian) [04:37] yonkeltron: ubuntu is debian (in a slightly more friendly package) === nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu [04:38] yeah i am seeing that sorta [04:39] nalioth: ok mate it's all out [04:40] yonkeltron: now install cdrecord (or whatever the file was that was giving you errors) [04:40] shall i put them all back in or just cdrecord? [04:40] try just cdrecord === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:47] nalioth: testing now [04:48] yonkeltron: did it isntall most of that stuff back? [04:48] nalioth: k3b only [04:49] yonkeltron: make sure you have kubuntu- and ubuntu- desktop(s) installed b4 you upgrade to breezy [04:50] nalioth: why both? [04:50] unable to open modem (ttys0) swansmart turbo, any help please [04:50] nalioth: no good.....can't unlock the cd drive [04:51] frank23: because yonkeltron had both b4 we ripped em loose [04:51] yonkeltron: can you paste the error in #flood or in a pastebin? (let me know which) [04:53] let me start k3b form a terminal and see what comes up [04:53] nalioth: it will be in #flood [04:56] yonkeltron: that's pretty weird === chavo [n=chavo@189.sub-70-197-32.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] yonkeltron: what does your sources.list look like? [04:57] ummm === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] shall i paste it? [04:58] please do [04:58] pasted [04:59] yonkeltron: i'm out of my league here [04:59] yonkeltron: a trip to #ubuntu is in the works for you === froggy25 [n=froggy25@pcp01030724pcs.dothan01.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] i need some help here plz [05:04] froggy25: ask [05:04] does anyone know how to set up pearpc [05:04] on here [05:04] i have mac os 10.4 tiger [05:04] and i want to try it out [05:05] so do you know how to set it up [05:05] i just need to get started [05:05] pearpc? [05:06] its a mac emulator for windows and linux [05:06] ohh [05:06] !pearpc [05:06] h17m4n: No idea [05:07] great! [05:07] even the great ubotu has no idea [05:07] !info pearpc [05:07] pearpc: (Architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB [05:07] cool [05:07] how did you do that nalioth [05:08] !info pearpc [05:08] pearpc: (Architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB [05:08] cool [05:08] !info limewire [05:08] just trying something out [05:08] thats all [05:08] so back to topic [05:08] can anyone help me here [05:09] !limewire [05:09] extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire ; or for a gtk-based P2P client that runs on the Gnutella network, try gtk-gnuttela [05:09] oh [05:09] !mplayer [05:09] it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto. For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 [05:09] thats so sweet === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] does anyone use Kubuntu Package Menu? [05:09] i dont know [05:09] if i do [05:10] actually [05:10] it's an addon [05:10] ok [05:10] how do i get it [05:10] allows you to right click deb packages and install them [05:10] how do I browse for samba shares on my network? === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [05:10] if you find out, tell me === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-240.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] ok [05:11] Kubuntu Package Menu: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23981 [05:11] small feature, but nice [05:12] hold on h17m4n [05:12] i got it [05:12] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23981 [05:12] bah [05:12] sorry === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-240.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [05:15] thanks thoreauputic [05:15] i had it handled though [05:16] thank you h17m4n for mentioning that [05:16] is there one for rpm files too [05:17] or do it still extract the deb file from them [05:17] and right click [05:17] and install [05:17] np :) [05:17] for rpm files [05:17] they're for redhat [05:17] deb are for debian based distros [05:17] but you could use alien to convert an rpm to deb [05:18] !alien [05:18] I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/ [05:18] yeah i use that [05:18] alot [05:18] cool [05:18] but now i dont have to [05:18] i guess [05:18] ive been doing the dpkg -i filename.deb [05:18] route [05:18] its tiresome [05:19] you know === hater2win [n=hater2wi@adsl-69-153-6-207.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] is there any other addons at all that i should know about [05:19] hey guys === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] is there a keyboard command to lock the session? === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-68-93-4-144.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:21] spudchat: i dont think so [05:21] k thx [05:21] spudchat: if there was you would set it up in the kde menu editor [05:21] how do i apply i theme? i know i need a qt package but which one? [05:21] alien is good, but try to find whatever it is in the ubuntu repos first [05:21] i do nalioth [05:22] but i use it for like when i installed limewire === DewDude [n=dewdude@mo2.us] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] hater2win: is that theme a tar.bz2 file [05:23] well [05:23] you could install limewire from apt-get [05:23] really [05:24] well i already have it [05:24] i got it from limewire.com [05:24] froggy25: yes i think so [05:24] well check it [05:24] hater2win [05:24] and if i dont install then its not a theme package for kde [05:25] where did you get it, hater2win [05:25] froggy25: yes it is a tar.bz2 [05:25] got it from kde-look.org [05:26] well go into your control center === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu [05:26] its in your k menu [05:26] go to appearance [05:26] and then to theme manager [05:26] once youre there [05:26] click on install new theme [05:27] and find that theme package [05:27] and hit ok [05:27] ah nice nice [05:27] now how do i install window decorations [05:27] tar.bz2 also [05:27] what window decorations do you want [05:27] its called softcrystal [05:28] i already downloaded it [05:28] ok hold on [05:28] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 [05:28] theres the link [05:28] oh do you want it to look like window xp [05:29] well [05:29] use xpde for a windows look [05:29] i just want that one [05:29] xpde is a desktop [05:29] do you know how to find synaptic in your k menu [05:29] yeah [05:29] i have synaptic [05:29] go to it [05:29] and look for baghira [05:30] thats much cooler then this === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] its a mac os x theme [05:30] i have it [05:30] my desktop looks completely like a mac [05:30] heh, well yes thats all fun and nice but how about the soft crystal one? [05:31] i think you'll have to install it by source === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] windows decorations doesnt have an installer on it [05:31] froggy25: how do you change the menubar? [05:32] I got baghira too [05:32] yeh, i know the command but i just dont know the pack for qt that i need [05:32] want the menu to match it [05:32] what color theme are u using with baghira [05:32] brushed metal? [05:33] yeah [05:33] ill tell you what i did [05:33] i went online [05:33] and found a picture of itunes [05:33] and copied a piece of the brushed metal off of it [05:34] and put it into kolourpaint [05:34] and set it as the menus background? [05:34] yep [05:34] cool [05:34] and stretched it out [05:34] now it matches the rest [05:34] how do you have the bottom bar looking [05:34] what about a matching icon set... you got one or is it default? [05:35] right now I just have the original one [05:35] kde-look.org [05:35] I installed baghira like 30 mins ago [05:35] i have the cursors for mac os jaguar [05:35] i got them from kdelook also [05:36] hold on h17 [05:36] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2242 [05:36] yeah that will work [05:36] looks like them [05:36] i have a mac [05:36] but its broke [05:37] so i make this look like it [05:37] that theme should work === Octane_ [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] as long as its a tar.bz2 file === murtaugh [n=murtaugh@mail.selectimpressions.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] my cousin had a imac... and he was about to trash it [05:37] really [05:37] why [05:38] I dunno if he did.. he didn't have the installation disks [05:38] hell i need one [05:38] i have the install disks [05:38] for tiger [05:38] someone else gave it to him cos it was messed up, and that person lost the disk set [05:38] what was wrong with it [05:38] what type of mac was it [05:38] it seemed like someone messed with the system files [05:38] i had a imac g4 [05:39] oh [05:39] it wouldn't access the net [05:39] all it would do is play cds and thats it [05:39] yeah he needed to reinstall it [05:39] or install linux :) [05:39] hell couldnt he have got it off of limewire or something [05:39] yeah he could have installed ubuntu [05:39] well he's a complete noob [05:40] i have tiger [05:40] and i got it off of limewire [05:40] not just a mac noob.... but a complete computer noob [05:40] and its real [05:40] oh [05:40] cool [05:40] i saw a g3 imac [05:40] at a pawn shop [05:40] the other day [05:40] tiger is the last one right? [05:40] yeah [05:40] the mac was 250 dollars [05:41] and i live in alabama [05:41] 250? [05:41] yeah [05:41] hmm [05:41] people down here dont use macs [05:41] and he got it free [05:41] yeah [05:41] i want that g3 mac [05:41] he had everything [05:41] for 250 [05:41] thats crazy [05:41] I'm not a mac user.. i've always owned x86 machines... and an amd64 now [05:42] really [05:42] why didnt you buy it [05:42] but I would want to own a mac [05:42] macs are coolness [05:42] i dont have the money yet [05:42] i cant work [05:42] macs are run by a dude who is just as powermad as bill gates [05:42] think of it like this: most mac users dont have to worry about weird hardware configurations [05:42] mac are sleek [05:42] or viruses [05:43] apple wont give out their source codes === kingfish600 [n=chatzill@ip70-186-4-221.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] Eddie Jobs [05:43] who can make a virus without that [05:43] or something like that [05:43] apple is sue crazy as well [05:43] right? [05:43] do you have a problem with apple pussfeller [05:43] yeah h [05:43] no [05:43] not really, i just dont get all the geek love [05:44] steve jobs [05:44] is breezy out on kubuntu to? [05:44] is apple ceo [05:44] steve jobs yeah [05:44] no [05:44] i do plan on buying an ipod tho [05:44] breezy wont be out till october [05:44] i have one [05:44] x86 macs... hmm [05:44] they are sweet [05:44] testing it now [05:44] do they skip when you jog [05:44] no === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] i'm downloading colony 4 [05:44] they dont skip at all [05:44] even the hd based ones? [05:45] nope [05:45] hd dont make them [05:45] apple does === usrx [n=usrx@69.111.17.32] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] hp has their name on it [05:45] thats all [05:45] hard drive vs flash based [05:45] no [05:45] is wht i mean by hd [05:45] hard drive [05:45] he means the hard disk [05:45] more space [05:45] mine is 40 gb [05:45] yeah, the ipods vs the shuffles, at least till this new one came out [05:46] 10,000 songs [05:46] can go on there [05:46] i was gonna get a shuffle cause i figure it wouldnt skip and its so tiny [05:46] but now these new ones are fetching [05:46] get a mini [05:46] and you spent 10,000 usd on songs? [05:46] heh [05:46] no [05:46] i dont buy my songs [05:46] i dont even have a credit card [05:46] mini is being replaced [05:46] you borrow samples :) [05:47] call the RIAA [05:47] !! [05:47] i don't understand. [05:47] I guess ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me [05:47] ipod nano [05:47] i have limewire [05:47] remember [05:47] the bots reveal themselves [05:47] and i dont care if the RIAA knows [05:47] either [05:47] !mac [05:47] Syntax error in line 1, h17m4n [05:47] http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/ [05:48] you dont download your music from p2p [05:48] emule is the shizzle for whole albums and collections.... [05:48] i use bit torrent [05:48] for whole albums [05:48] wow nice [05:48] i can get a whole album [05:49] which is from70 mb to 150 mb [05:49] in about 30 minutes [05:49] if there alot of seeders on there [05:49] does anyone else use bit torrent [05:49] all the time [05:49] well I had a cable connection that let me download the iso of a whole disk in 22 mins [05:49] cool [05:49] but mostly for anime and manga these days [05:49] cool [05:50] this is pretty offtopic... [05:50] emule is nice === marndt [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] i get my episodes of entourage with bit torrent [05:50] mldonkey works pretty good too [05:50] whats up frank [05:50] no one else is chatting [05:51] if someone would start a kde topic up [05:51] we would be chatting about that [05:51] you know [05:51] Hi all, I'm not familar with kubuntu...I just installed it tonight after getting sick of Gnome [05:51] ok [05:51] no the problem is p2p use to download illegally [05:51] marndt === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83.64.120.130] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:51] you made a wise choise marndt [05:51] ok [05:51] well guys [05:51] I've successfully configured my wlan0 card via ndiswrapper [05:51] IMO kde looks much better [05:52] and is easier [05:52] lets stop talking illegally [05:52] i guess [05:52] however, when I go to the control center things are grayed-out after I select Administration Mode [05:52] did you install all of the packages for kde marndt [05:52] marndt: kcontrol is pretty inconsistent. try sudo kcontrol to start it [05:52] in synaptics [05:53] marndt [05:53] press the K, Run Command, Click Options, check Run as Different User, Username: root Password: yourpass, and type synaptic in the command [05:53] froggy25, I'm not sure if I installed all of the packages for kde...how do I check? [05:53] you have to go into administration mode [05:53] frank23, I will try that [05:53] become the root user [05:53] marndt, try what I told you [05:53] thats why it is greyed out [05:53] that's the best way [05:53] become the root [05:54] no [05:54] what [05:54] run synaptic as root [05:54] no [05:54] its greyed out, not because he is missing packages, but because he is not authorized, as that user, to messs with those settings [05:54] anyone know of a music player for kde that can play from a samba share? [05:54] thats what i just said [05:54] yeah [05:54] i dont know frank [05:54] any player will [05:54] the easiest way is to Run Command as root [05:54] smbmount... [05:55] is usrx a bot [05:55] hah [05:55] its mounted as a directory somewhere in your tree, you should have access to it [05:55] nope [05:55] just use smb:\ [05:55] ok... yeah I haven't mounted the smb share [05:55] oh [05:55] sorry usrx [05:55] np [05:55] frank23, just use smb:/ in the opeb dialog or konq [05:55] frank do you also have a windows computer as well [05:56] i dont know how the gui tools work for samba, i just put it in fstab manually [05:56] smb:/ in konqy wont mount it [05:56] lol marndt, I just realized I told you the wrong thing.... it's because I'm used to running synaptic that way so much.... just type kcontrol in the command box [05:57] no need to mount it, just put smb:/server/share in konq [05:57] if you run if from a terminal, if you close the terminal, it gets closed too [05:57] that's smb://server/share [05:57] chavo: that doesn't work for Juk for wxample [05:58] i just put that in chavo, and i got an error [05:58] possibly a bug [05:58] yeah me too, [05:58] wonder why [05:58] all my music on my linux box, so I never tried to do that [05:59] I'm sure if I mounted the samba share somewhere it would work fine [05:59] frank23, yes === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [05:59] have you tried to go into konq and hitting networks [06:00] and hitting add a network folder [06:00] if you dont know how to configure that [06:00] you can find out how on the web [06:00] because i have no idea how frank [06:01] do you think that would work, chavo [06:01] hmm kaffeine works over network [06:01] froggy25: I'm sure I can find it, I just haven't looked yet [06:01] but i think that would work [06:02] http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=streaming+music+with+samba&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8 [06:02] chavo: Yes I know I'm using kaffeine now, but I would like to set up an audio player that can manage the whole collection and everything [06:02] try this link frank [06:02] does ANYBODY know the package you need for window decorations? [06:03] windows decorations at kde-look.org [06:03] just mount it and you wont have any problems after that [06:03] find any of them [06:03] you have to install it manually [06:03] i dont know the kubuntu way to do that === _marndt [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] to do what [06:03] mount smb sahres [06:04] oh [06:04] i dont either [06:04] i dont need to [06:04] have no use with that [06:04] maybe if you plug in the u/p in the kcontrol network shares thing, it sticks them in /mnt automatically or something [06:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba this should hel[p [06:05] i was really disgusted to find that XP wont let you put a pass on shares [06:05] how cheap can you get [06:05] yeah [06:05] well xp home [06:05] <_marndt> hi people, i ran Control Center via Shell using: sudo kcontrol [06:05] no dude [06:05] <_marndt> when, I attempt to activate my wlan0, it deactivates immediately [06:05] go to kcontrol [06:06] and go to system admin [06:06] _marndt: I never could enable wireless using kcontrol, I always had errors like yours [06:06] and look at the bottom close to defaults [06:06] click on administrator mode [06:06] and put your password in [06:06] _marndt: my solution was to install gnome-system-tools and use network-admin [06:06] and click on ok === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] that should work _marndt [06:07] froggy25: that didn't work for me either [06:07] really [06:07] it does for me [06:07] froggy25: kcontrol is buggy [06:07] get system setting from synaptics [06:07] thats a addon [06:08] looks like system preferences on mac [06:08] thats what i mainly use [06:08] but you know what [06:08] <_marndt> so do a sudo apt-get install what? [06:09] hold on [06:09] <_marndt> by the way, you guys are great...much better than #ubuntu [06:09] so does ndiswrapper work for you guys [06:10] put apt-get install kde-systemsettings [06:10] is that what you wanted [06:10] with sudo at the beginning [06:10] or just su [06:11] froggy25: sudo is safer [06:11] oh [06:11] i use su [06:11] froggy25: I don't have that package available, kde-systemsettings [06:12] umm === kingfish600_ [n=chatzill@ip70-186-4-221.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] frank23, mounting the share works for me [06:13] <_marndt> I receive an error that states the package couldn't be found [06:13] frank, you need backports in your repositories to get that [06:13] <_marndt> pussfeller, it worked for me [06:13] !backports [06:13] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports [06:14] i would just use what frank said, the gnome thing [06:14] froggy25: check this one out: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535 [06:14] or not [06:15] sweet one h [06:15] su and sudo are the same, in this context [06:15] they are [06:15] i tried this once [06:16] baghira with kxdocker [06:16] kxdocker is a piece of crap [06:16] makes my computer freeze up === kingfish600__ [n=chatzill@ip70-186-4-221.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] yeah i never had much luck with those things [06:17] i got an old computer too and dont need all the eye candy [06:18] h17m4n: man that is so sweet [06:19] <_marndt> I added the respository, but when I type: sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings, the package cannot be found [06:20] umm [06:20] i dont know then [06:20] yeah it is. I hope they make a tar.gz of it... I don't want to go into CVS [06:21] i trying to use one of the icons for system settings on my upper bar [06:21] on the left side [06:23] ok now i have a problem [06:24] i have the desktop menu bar on [06:24] and i added an application to it to move to the left side [06:24] the icon is distorted [06:24] i need it to look like it should look [06:24] how do i do that [06:25] <_marndt> someone mentioned the gnome system settings [06:25] <_marndt> how could I install the gnome system settings? [06:25] hey i have to go my gf imed me [06:25] i be back later [06:32] what system settings? [06:32] sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools [06:32] man... gnome just got a menu editor! [06:32] im switching like now [06:33] pussfeller: just now? i thought smeg has been around a while [06:34] i just read on slashdot that a new version of gnome included that, and i couldnt resist [06:34] i know what they were trying to accomplish and i give them the props [06:35] whats the package uninstall command? [06:36] hater2win: use kynaptic and mark it for removal === kingfish600__ [n=chatzill@ip70-186-4-221.ma.dl.cox.net] has left #kubuntu [] [06:37] know the command though [06:37] hater2win: in a terminal: "sudo apt-get remove " [06:38] ty [06:38] nalioth: do you know how to make something work with the command line [06:38] if i install azureus [06:39] how do i make it run just by typing in azureus [06:39] you cd into the azureus directory and type ./azureus === lwizardl [n=1@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] hi [06:40] nalioth: ty [06:41] can someone tell me what i need to do to mount a ntfs partition as readible in kubuntu? i have my drivers for nvidia graphics, and nforce on it [06:41] !tell lwizardl about ntfs [06:41] lwizardl: ubotu sends love [06:43] nalioth: thanks [06:44] lwizardl: np === marndt [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:45] I'm out of ideas to get my wlan0 activated [06:45] can anyone help? [06:48] hello? [06:49] marndt: ask in #ubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] what's the deal with these .desktop files that i download from kde-look.org? [07:10] they are only 1kb and can't be displayed by kdm [07:10] are they links to pics on the web? [07:10] BROKEN_LADDER: no, .desktop files tell your DM how to display things [07:10] then how can i click on it in kdm manager and see a picture? [07:11] BROKEN_LADDER: open it with a txt editor and see what it is supposed to do [07:11] i just did. [07:11] nothing [07:12] it's a regular .desktop file. [07:12] it names an image that isn't on my computer per search. [07:12] BROKEN_LADDER: then back to kde-look to get it [07:13] but it's displaying. [07:13] i can see the picture in kdm manager. [07:13] where is that picture coming from? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] BROKEN_LADDER, you're nick is very distracting, I'd try to help but I can't concentrate on what you're typing [07:16] my nick is making it hard to read my text? [07:16] i don't believe it. [07:17] is there a way to make Konquerer keep my display settings so it is altways in detail view? [07:17] looks like you're screaming for attention [07:18] BROKEN_LADDER, set up your view just how you like and save a profile === [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.254] has joined #kubuntu === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:18] it should remember your view settings though [07:18] profile? [07:18] how? [07:19] no it always goes back to ridiculous icon view. [07:19] especially in those little file windows that pop up when saving and choosing background images and such. [07:20] open / save windows don't seem to be saving for me either, I always use icon view anyway === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] i can't figure out how to change the view now. [07:22] view -> view mode [07:22] in konq [07:24] i don't see anything labeled "view" [07:24] oh..duh. [07:24] i keep forgetting that the menu is at the top [07:25] i just stopped using gnome [07:25] kde is finally good enough to make me sacrifice looks for quality. [07:26] BROKEN_LADDER, it's so ugly http://2sdw.com/images/09-07-dirty.jpg [07:26] no. [07:26] with a lot of tweaking kde can look decent [07:27] yeah, that's a great example of how tacky looking kde is. [07:27] tacky how? [07:27] like poor color choice, over-done icons... [07:27] ratpoison is the best [07:27] poor color choice? I chose them myself [07:27] doh [07:28] i dunno..it just doesn't look nice and clean. [07:28] it doesn't have that sleek minimalistic modern look. [07:28] i like how the newer gnome icons look so soft and colorful, but not too cartoonish. [07:29] beos had the best icons though. [07:29] well I think those icons are great, I didn't like them at first but they fit with any color scheme [07:30] there's also a port of the gperfection icon set at kde-look.org === hater2win [n=hater2wi@adsl-69-152-245-75.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] you know you can change your icons right? === Parisi [n=jblparis@cpe-24-92-48-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:31] i have changed my icons. [07:31] i just didn't know i could use gperfection2 [07:31] i actually found a pretty sweet icon set for kde. [07:31] lemme show you a screenshot dude. [07:32] How is kubuntu compared to standard Ubuntu in terms of performance? [07:32] As in responsiveness [07:32] for me kde is way faster [07:33] I see. [07:33] I dont really like Gnome to begin with. [07:33] Parisi: it's all in the tuning [07:33] But i havent tried Kub yet [07:33] I am just using KDE under Freebsd and its fast as *** [07:34] I'll try Kun anyways [07:36] Parisi kubuntu isn't going to be different. [07:36] it's just a different desktop environment. [07:37] mainly it will look and feel different. [07:37] i prefer kde after using gnome for years. [07:37] i just switched to kde. [07:37] Heh. [07:37] you can't even configure your menu in gnome. [07:37] the one pain of kde is however, it won't recognize my "multi-media" keys. [07:37] gnome is not intuitive at all [07:37] for shortcuts and stuff. [07:37] I see. [07:37] i think it is very intuitive. === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:38] i think kde takes a lot of figuring out. it feels more like windows in structure, but you can tweak it so much. configurability is what makes it so good. [07:38] Well, you've used it for years '[ [07:38] true..but i always thought it just made sense. [07:38] anyway, how can i set a profile in konquerer to be my default one? [07:38] BROKEN_LADDER, you can get your multimedia keys to work [07:38] Perhaps because i do come from a windows background from the most part. [07:39] I'll brb [07:40] chavo how?! [07:41] in gnome they Just Worked [07:41] to borrow a term from M$ [07:41] from apple? [07:41] whatever [07:41] does anybody know the qt3 package that I need to use different window decorations? [07:42] i haven't used a proprietary operating system since beos. [07:42] chavo ?? [07:42] hater2win: which package is called for? [07:44] http://pastebin.com/357717 [07:44] nalioth: http://pastebin.com/357717 [07:46] BROKEN_LADDER, open up the kmix window and right click the volume slider [07:46] then click configure shortcuts [07:49] hater2win: you need your kde -dev pkg(s) [07:49] what are those? [07:53] word [07:53] kmix? [07:53] wtf [07:53] me? [07:53] my sound is working fine dude. [07:53] hater2win: open synaptic and search for "-dev" in the results scroll to the "k" section [07:54] hater2win: look for kde(something)-dev [07:55] hmm, kk sec [07:55] BROKEN_LADDER, configure the shortcuts for your keyboard there dude [07:56] man I'm not going to help you anymore [07:56] nalioth: there is a whole bunch of kde(stuff) -dev s [07:57] hater2win: lemme look === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:58] hater2win: kde-base-dev, kde-devel, kdelibs4-dev should take care of it [07:59] nalioth: ty === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] how can i get gperfection2 for kde? [08:07] nalioth: thanks alot, it works like a charm [08:08] whats the make install cleaner command? [08:08] make install clean? [08:08] hater2win: np [08:08] clean install? [08:08] hater2win: well, in the future, use "checkinstall" rather than "make install" [08:08] checkinstall will make a deb for easy system maintenance [08:08] heh yeah i just realized that right now [08:09] and the "make clean" will take the source code back to the point of when you unpacked it [08:09] nalioth: thanks [08:10] believe me, checkinstall is a blessing [08:11] i bet === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has left #Kubuntu [] === libben [n=libben@c80-216-85-8.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] howdy === _peter [n=peter@host-184-9.adsl.euroweb.sk] has joined #kubuntu === _peter is now known as DentonSK === DentonSK [n=peter@host-184-9.adsl.euroweb.sk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:31] hi all..... [08:32] aftertaf: you overslept [08:32] mornfall, another sigsegv to post backtrace... what's the site again? [08:32] loool [08:32] nah, i tried doing things before i logged on. bad idea too! [08:33] hmpf i wanna throw a little web site together, but i can't ftp to my homepage to upload: damn http proxy :/ [08:35] aftertaf: bugs.kde.org by now :) [08:39] nalioth awake allready ? =) [08:41] libben: i am awake all night CST [08:42] ooh so u havent got any sleep yet =) [08:42] just woke up from our session last nite [08:43] and still azureus wont run =(... [08:43] i wake up around 4pm CST US, and am awake until 5 or 6 the next morning [08:43] dont get it really. done everything right. [08:43] libben: have you tried starting it from the terminal? [08:44] yes [08:44] and it never pops up [08:45] it just stalls and never says a thing. [08:47] http://pastebin.com/357748 [08:47] thats the output from a ps fux | grep azu [08:48] --> work [08:48] laters === jeffrey [n=jeffrey@c-67-169-12-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:50] libben: what kind of java did you install? [08:50] libben: what does "java --version" return to you? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:51] nalioth when i type it like u do... it tells me virtual java machine could not be created. [08:51] if i do it with just one -version [08:51] it pops up [08:51] java version "1.5.0_04" [08:51] Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_04-b05) [08:51] Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_04-b05, mixed mode, sharing) [08:52] i dont understand why azureus wont start [08:52] delete your ~/.azureus and the azureus folder [08:52] re download it and try again [08:54] now i have azureus installed from synaptic... === hater2win [n=hater2wi@adsl-69-152-230-134.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === jimmy_neutron [n=bubbles@dsl-linz7-16-65.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] hi [08:56] anybody knows how i can start kbootsplash after installing it? [08:57] libben: remove it with synaptic [08:57] libben: had this problem earlier today [08:57] ive allready removed it completly... now im downloading tarball from az.sf site [08:58] good show [09:00] http://pastebin.com/357752 [09:01] nalioth ? [09:01] yes? [09:02] pastebin [09:02] still not working? [09:03] StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process. [09:03] just got that line =) === je4d [n=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] from terminal [09:04] ok mornfall === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] h1 [09:07] can i start repos in Kynaptic [09:07] ? [09:07] hi... wahat do you mean by 'start' repos ? [09:07] ee [09:07] i would to [09:07] start xfce [09:07] to my kubuntu [09:08] but i didn't know how [09:08] and i ask in #ubuntu [09:08] ./configure says "Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. please check your installation" <-- which package is missing? [09:08] but they tell me how to do in ubuntu [09:08] with synaptic ill guess ? =) [09:08] and in ubuntu i must first start repositories [09:09] jimmy_neutron: your qt dev librarys are missing [09:09] he needs to add repos I'm guessing [09:09] yes they tell me how to do with synpatic [09:09] hmmm, are these the ones qt-*-dev? [09:09] but i haven't synaptic i have kynaptic [09:09] Red_Bullet: installsynaptic ;) [09:09] aftertaf, how [09:09] Red_Bullet, apt-get install synaptic [09:09] sudo of course [09:10] chavo: of course ;) [09:10] jimmy_neutron: correct [09:10] ooo 10x [09:10] :) [09:11] k, thx [09:12] Red_Bullet, apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt also [09:12] then synaptic will look like your KDE apps [09:12] any gnome app will [09:12] sudo apt-get install gtk2.... [09:12] ?? [09:12] i don't understand. [09:12] yes [09:12] k [09:13] jimmy_neutron: what are you trying to install? [09:13] as long as your not running synaptic already [09:13] kbootsplash [09:13] try doing this [09:13] you know where the KDE headers are? (configure requires the path as prefix) [09:13] [09:14] [09:14] [09:14] [09:14] [09:14] [09:14] [09:14]
[09:14]  ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3
[09:14] jimmy_neutron: kdelibs4-dev, kde-devel and kdebase-dev [09:14] [09:14] bah [09:14] fux [09:14] ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 [09:14] that [09:14] jimmy_neutron: ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 [09:14] ok that one [09:14] lol [09:15] hater2win: why are you pasting in here? [09:16] hater2win: nope, still same error [09:16] ./configure -prefix /usr [09:17] k [09:17] nalioth: i have put it in a document file to help me remember commands i use for certain things, i didnt think it would paste a million lines like that [09:17] jimmy_neutron: if you are going to compile your own stuff, you need dev librarys for all you are gonna develop for [09:17] kk,... [09:17] jimmy_neutron: i sent you the files you need, (may need more, but try those first) [09:17] ok [09:18] yeah you need kde-libs and kde-base devel packages also [09:18] chavo: read ^^^^ [09:22] nalioth http://pastebin.com/357761 [09:23] libben: killall java_swt [09:24] no process killed [09:24] libben: i'm lost [09:25] m2 [09:25] well of to work anyway =) [09:26] ill take another shot at it when ill get home again. [09:26] later. [09:26] thxs for the help [09:27] be safe [09:30] http://www.lane.ca/images/steve_ballmer.jpg [09:30] woof woof [09:31] lol === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] so old... [09:33] how can i activate my tv-out to G-force 4 [09:34] pray [09:34] :-) [09:43] i just plugged in my USB Drive, how do I get linux to recognize it? [09:43] hater2win, should be recognized [09:44] where would it be? [09:44] i checked storage devices [09:44] nothing === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] hater2win: does it show up when you do: lsusb [09:44] BlankB: yes [09:45] bus 005 device 005 [09:46] it should show up under "media:/" [09:46] nothing, just my HDs === [ITA] MisterX [n=casadio@host240-184.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [09:47] have you hit reload (F5) since the media:/ is opened? [09:47] several times [09:48] does dmesg show anything useful? === _chavo [n=chavo@8.sub-70-197-17.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] what would i be looking for? [09:48] something that says something about your drive. [09:49] you can paste the output of "dmesg | tail" to here http://blankb.pastebin.com/ [09:51] http://blankb.pastebin.com/357769 === zorba64 [n=michael3@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:59] hater2win: also send me a copy of lsusb to the pastebin. [10:02] BlankB: alright sec [10:03] BlankB: http://blankb.pastebin.com/357773 [10:03] thats all that came from that command [10:04] what about the lsusb [10:05] http://blankb.pastebin.com/357776 <-- lsub [10:08] I dont see 0781 in rgrep -i "0781" /etc/hotplug/* === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] could mean that hot plug doesnt recognize it. [10:08] what can i do about that? [10:09] I dont know much about hotplug. I can tell you how to mount it manually (that is if its recognized) [10:10] well [10:10] how to mount manually? [10:11] mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbmemcard (this assumes that the device is recognized as /dev/sda1 and that the folder /mnt/usbmemcard exists.) [10:13] mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist [10:13] not recognizing it [10:14] I would gess that it is just not recognized by the system. [10:15] hmm [10:15] any ideas? === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] !info screem [10:16] screem: (A GNOME website development environment), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2158 kB, Installed size: 8280 kB [10:17] h2w: doing a google for "(ubuntu | kubuntu) SanDisk Cruzer Mini" doesnt seem too helpful. [10:19] yeh [10:20] its got a fat partition [10:20] matter any? [10:20] nope. [10:21] It should work. I get the feeling from reading a pages that its just not well supported. 8( [10:21] mleh [10:23] someone who has more experience with hotplug and usb might be able to get it to work. [10:23] yeh === zorba64 [n=michael3@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] modprobe sd_mod === nalioth_ [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth_ [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] [10:30] how do i downgrade my udev? === nalioths_dog [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] gtg [10:34] night all [10:35] BlankB: thanks for all the help === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === [ITA] MisterX is away: va a giocare a Unreal Tournament 2004 === [ITA] MisterX is now known as [ITA] MisterX|Awa === [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.254] has joined #kubuntu === zorba64 [n=michael3@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === techpoint [n=techpoin@host167-159.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === techpoint is now known as elwood === Almindor [n=ales@chello217023244025.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] what do you guys use for service configuration? you do it manualy? [11:25] service configurations? [11:25] rcs [11:25] what boots what get's killed [11:25] I miss a good gui config tool for this in most linuces [11:27] Almindor: come over to #ubuntu and ask (more folks awake) [11:29] oh btw, I'm on breezy and I get consolefont setup error on boot(I know it's beta) [11:29] it doesn't brake anything but I'd like to find out whats wrong.. [11:30] Almindor: i'm not on breezy (it's still broken) [11:30] well it works :) [11:30] I got it from ISO not by updating [11:30] (updating broke everything here so I reinstalled from breezy ISO) [11:30] the new bootsplash is kinda cool, altho still only "ubuntu" :) [11:31] everything works tip-top except that consolefont BUt IIRC I had the same problem with 5.04 [11:31] perhaps it has something to do with my locale being sk [11:32] Almindor: if it persists across versions, then yes it isn't a bug in the software per se [11:33] I got a feeling it's a script-bug [11:33] there's something about "t_kernel_font" so ether the script refers to old stuff or kernel broke something [11:35] perhaps so === GNAM [n=auauuuau@host7-241.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:37] what about breeze betas? [11:37] (kubuntu) === Almindor is on one [11:39] there are ISOs, I was lucky perhaps, people say breezy is broken but this ones works like a breeze :D [11:40] GNAM: www.distrowatch.com look for ubuntu colony-4 [11:40] there are "kubuntu" breezy iso's too [11:40] less known [11:40] but I didn't save the bookmark as I reinstalled :( [11:40] Almindor: well enlighten GNAM [11:42] GNAM, for me everything works smoothly, but since people say it's still broken it might be that your configuration will not work [11:43] GNAM, I have kde, nvidia, eclipse, java, and lots of funky stuff working no prob [11:43] GNAM, only problem I have is an "general consolefont error" on boot [11:43] but it doesn't affect anything [11:43] oh and I'm also localized [11:44] works too except fonts [11:44] I had to snatch windows fonts, the ones with kubuntu don't support slovak === m0ns00n [n=hogne@212.33.152.198] has joined #kubuntu [11:44] do you use synaptic or kynapic? [11:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908/ [11:46] kynaptic [11:47] GNAM: kynaptic is kinda default with kubuntu, but use what you like [11:47] only problem I have, and it's in all KDE using linuces is kdesu sometimes get's stuck [11:47] I guess it's a KDE bug [11:47] yes, i prefer console in KDE [11:47] for my apt-get work === hettar [n=hettar@ppp96-140.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:48] GNAM: there'll soon be adept to use on kde, native ;) === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Luenkun [n=ubuntu@bib0032cd.sg.uji.es] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Luenkun [n=ubuntu@bib0032cd.sg.uji.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:19] does any willing tester have amd64 or powerpc? [12:22] Riddell: i'll see if i ahve time to switch hd in a mac and test it, when is the preview out? [12:24] seaLne: ISO build should finish in about an hour [12:24] would be wonderful if you could test it === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] k === myselfhimself [n=jonathan@abo-97-248-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] i'm starting to think there's nothing more boring than trawling thru java profiler output === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] seaLne: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/breezy-install-powerpc.iso [12:45] seaLne: get that tested (and the live when it appears) and I'll owe you lots of beer [12:45] testers wanted for the rest too: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/ [12:46] can you upgrade via apt successfully ? === Poromies is now known as Kuolio === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] hettar: should be able to === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _hettar [n=hettar@ppp96-140.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [i=foobar@p54A1EA5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === flaviu [n=flaviu@82.79.149.44] has joined #kubuntu === paines [n=paines@p50894206.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] how can I see the flash images on a web page? === wong [n=wong@60.50.201.201] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] flaviu: you can install a flash plugin with apt [01:00] or synaptic [01:00] how ?? [01:00] have you ever used synaptic? [01:01] !flash [01:01] I guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === judax_ [n=troy@adsl-66-143-164-112.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] ok. thanks [01:10] jebus === nikkia just got a credit card application form thru the mail.... 58.6% APR [01:11] 'Variable rate on purchases, 44.2% to 69.1%' can you say 'loan shark' ? [01:11] morning nikkia [01:12] nikkia: thats not a shark, it's a school of piranha [01:12] nalioth: i know, its insane [01:12] i could have sworn that such APRs were illegal in this country [01:13] nikkia: was it sent from this country? [01:13] nalioth: yes [01:13] hmph === nalioth has no credit cards [01:13] well, i can't be sure about that, but the address for the reply envelope is in this country === myselfhimself [n=jonathan@abo-97-248-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:14] nalioth: i have one, need another, but the one i have has an APR of 12% (and the one i'm applying for, 8%) [01:14] no way would i bother with one offering 60% that's just silly [01:15] nikkia: silly aint the word, heh [01:15] however, if it IS illegal to set such high APRs, then i would seriously consider squealing on them :P [01:15] nikkia: i'm glad you (and the rest of these folks) are nice === nalioth has had dealings earlier with a person [01:16] ah, no, no laws, yet [01:16] there is a bill to limit APRs, but its not been passed, yet === nalioth doesnt like to deal with truly nasty people === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === downclimb^ [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === joan [n=joan@223.Red-81-36-162.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hettar [n=hettar@ppp96-140.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === joan [n=joan@223.Red-81-36-162.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === buz [n=buz@80-218-105-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === astro76 [n=james@68-168-170-58.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] ihianyone.. [01:53] hi anyone [01:54] what is java command about read from file into system === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === RoT [n=bob@203-59-197-192.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === _tony [n=tony@62.57.212.188] has joined #kubuntu === _tony is now known as scarface [02:02] libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0? === scarface is now known as scarface_10 === scarface_10 [n=tony@62.57.212.188] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:05] Riddell: hi... how goes? [02:07] mornfall: testing kubuntu preview release. bddebian asked for elmo to sync debtags 1.4 from experimental === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@chello084010229164.chello.pl] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] Riddell: i know that much, but no idea how it ended up like? === ubuntu is now known as t31 === hettar_ [n=hettar@ppp96-140.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === sml [n=sml@219-90-183-113.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] test [02:12] where's the wiki page that had the release schedule for breezy? [02:13] it is easy to find with a google search [02:13] yeah I think I found it [02:14] i just googled it today - the release date was 13 oct i think? [02:14] yes [02:15] preview release is today and rc is 6 oct [02:16] is the preview release stable enough to upgrade from hoary? [02:17] hussam: usually it is [02:18] hussam: heavy updates daily until it 'finals' === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu === wincide [n=trax@197.Red-83-49-252.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] my breezy kubuntu just froze! how can i check what caused the problem? === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu === MojoHand [n=MojoHand@64.122.225.226] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu === DewDude [n=dewdude@mo2.us] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ is now known as hetzz [02:37] mornfall: he hasn't synced yet === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] Riddell, ping? [02:47] jsgotangco: hi [02:47] Riddell, hi, do you mind publishing docs to kubuntu even after doc string freeze? [02:48] or would you rather stick to the current sched [02:48] jsgotangco: I don't mind, I don't see them getting translated anyway [02:49] Riddell, great we have 2 kubuntu-specific docs but still needs polish [02:49] still need to check with higher up ubuntu powers but I think it'll be fine [02:49] mdz doesn't want any extension but i guess it holds more with ubuntu [02:50] Riddell: can you let me know it seems i'm the sole kubuntu doc writer now :( [02:51] you guys should boss me around more === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-221.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] is there an update that can go in shortly after preview (so this evening or tomorrow)? [02:52] Riddell: i'm trying to finish the kquickguide tonight [02:52] jjesse, can you fix the kquickguide even without adept for a while? [02:52] i can sure try it just doesn't validate rigth now? [02:52] right [02:52] well let me get it to validate and then we can move forward w/ that [02:53] just do a make kqg when it validates and you'll have an html preview that Riddell can use for preview release [02:53] About Kubuntu should also build [02:53] ok, i'll go to town then today but first work calls :( [02:53] jjesse, no problem the timezones are on our side =_ [02:55] Riddell, thanks, i'll just cc you in an email later === rajeevpn [n=rajeevpn@59.144.16.112] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] Folks, am a newbie here... been having some problems installing kubuntu. Pl see my post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62914 for the nature of the problem === RoT [n=bob@203-59-197-192.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === rajeevpn [n=rajeevpn@59.144.16.112] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu === daugirdas [n=daugirda@host86-128-219-150.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] hi [03:19] anyone having problems with media:/ on KDE 3.42?? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #kubuntu [] === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === pgsc [n=kurumin@door1.ift.unesp.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] hello === st [n=st@stalker.ez.no] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] anybody could say me what is the kernel version of kubuntu 5.04 [03:27] 2.6.10 [03:27] thank you daugirdas [03:27] i need to know because my webcam works with this cersion === _jjesse is now known as jjesse [03:30] exit === h17m4n [n=DR@201.19.92.117] has joined #kubuntu === kaptaink [n=kaptaink@cust0279.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] how can i mount an ext3 partition through the console? [03:34] there are people chatting in #ubuntu [03:34] since that question isn't kde related, they could help you === Parisi_zZz [n=jblparis@cpe-24-92-48-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ is now known as hetzz === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === arthurb [n=arthurb@208.253.13.196] has joined #kubuntu === shadowing [n=cyanure@clearwater.ETE.INRS.CA] has joined #kubuntu === shadowing [n=cyanure@pdpc/supporter/active/shadowing] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@pf-amon.crid-85.ac-nantes.fr] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === flo [n=flo@i577B0E1A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu === sdogi_ [n=sdogi@84-50-20-188-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] anyone knows how is the html printing possible with cups with firefox or konqueror [04:25] hmm, is there something odd with #ubuntu today ? === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [04:26] nikkia, hey ? === TheVox [n=vox@201.130.67.166] has joined #kubuntu === RustyJames [i=miomeinm@dsl-082-082-073-223.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:31] yes? === vj [n=vj@CZ1-1A-u-1340.mc.onolab.com] has joined #kubuntu === blackflag [n=stef@p54ABFC7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] nikkia, something odd with #ubuntu today ? [04:32] #join kubuntu-es [04:32] Hello all :-) [04:32] don't ask me, i rarely go there [04:32] can someone explain me what is "IDE" for c/c++ ? [04:32] nikkia, I am in there each day...but today , moments ago I got to see I am banned (??) have no clue why === vj [n=vj@CZ1-1A-u-1340.mc.onolab.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:33] blackflag: Integrated Development Environment [04:33] aha, what does it mean? [04:33] so if I type to little I get banned O_O ? [04:33] blackflag: just what it says :) [04:33] blackflag: an IDE is an application that allows you to edit, compile, debug, etc, in one application [04:34] hence, its a development environment, that is integrated :P [04:34] ahhh, I see === ztonzy want to know why [04:34] but in what integrated? InLinux? [04:35] blackflag: erm, no, integrated as in the editor, compiler, debugger, etc are integrated into one app [04:35] there are IDEs for all OSes [04:36] (and yes, i'll purposefully keep 'IDE' vague enough to include EDIT/LSE on VMS, to allow me to make bold claims like that :) [04:36] Okay, when I 'll try to beginn to develop withc/c++ I can use an IDE?correct? [04:36] blackflag: you can, yes [04:37] you don't have to, however [04:37] some people like IDEs, some people prefer to use a text editor they are familiar with [04:37] I have here kDevelopment IDE, is that good for beginning programming? [04:38] blackflag: i couldn't say, really, i haven't used kdevelop in a LONG time === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:39] hmm... What is the meaning here, how is the best practice to begin development? [04:39] i'm sure it can be used for beginning programming, the only real question i'd have, is whether or not it (easily) supports a plain console app project style, which is what i'd recommend for begining programming [04:39] i suspect it probably DOES offer a console app project style, and thus is 'fine' for beginning with :) [04:40] okay, so I go to the library get a book over c/c## programming and begin, or? [04:41] Or is there some good stuff on Internet? [04:41] blackflag, depends on how you learn best, really [04:42] there's plenty of sites on learning programming, some good, some bad, some people find it hard to learn from a website, some don't, etc [04:42] can you recommend a good site for beginners? [04:49] does someone have a good alt. source for repositories? [04:49] I've been trying to connect to Planetmirror, but no luck === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has joined #kubuntu === sdogi_ [n=sdogi@84-50-20-188-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:55] okay, thanx for help. Going to get a book first.... [04:55] bye === blackflag [n=stef@p54ABFC7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] === _juerd [n=juerd@aak.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu === The_Vox` [n=vox@201.130.67.166] has joined #kubuntu === johanna [n=johanna@kotivayla-138-44.tikkacom.fi] has joined #kubuntu [05:12] Riddell: preliminary plan is to get beta2 out tomorrow [05:13] mornfall: cool, if elmo hasn't synced debtags by then I'll jolly well do it myself and upload adept :) [05:18] when compiling/installing custom kde software on kubuntu, is --prefix=/usr what i want? [05:20] i'd put anything i compiled myself in to /usr/local to keep it seperate [05:21] does kde pick up that stuff then? [05:21] this is a io-slave [05:22] my experience with stuff like that is that is has to be "officiallly" installed in the proper location for it to work at all === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-11.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === MxxCon [i=donuts@24.188.223.108] has joined #kubuntu [05:29] hey folks, i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04 [05:31] i found this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=139932&postcount=11 but it seems like that file was removed === Luen [n=luen@81-203-36-205.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] somebody knows how to transfer files from linux to pocket-pc? [05:33] i don't have sd cards reader at my computer [05:34] neither bluethoth [05:34] cable? [05:34] wifi? [05:34] no wifi [05:34] just usb to my pocket pc [05:34] so you should be able to use that [05:35] sb 1-1: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 [05:35] usbcore: registered new driver ipaq [05:35] i get this [05:35] yeah but don't know how to === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.35] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:37] can you see it in konqueror? [05:38] nope === regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] look into KitchenSync [05:41] mm [05:43] that's kde project :) === djib [n=djib@d80-170-155-188.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] mm === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] hey [05:49] i'l try later === sik [n=sik@ppp-82-135-5-168.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] so...i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04, any help? === _user [n=user@202.146.237.75] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] <_user> can i install wine on kubuntu? === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:02] yes === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-79-171.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] is there a Ubuntu Krita-package? [06:08] there is in breezy, i don't have a hoary box on atm to check it [06:08] well, here it isnt :) thanks [06:08] any news on the kubuntu Breezy release? [06:08] and KDE 3.5 ^^ === sags1 [n=sags1@210.213.126.86] has joined #kubuntu === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === soliste [n=soliste@cimiez-1-82-228-241-32.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] !tell Red_Bullet NVIDIA === Trip [n=cs@d072045.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu === GSP-Trip [n=cs@d072045.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu === GSP-Trip [n=cs@d072045.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === libben [n=libben@c80-216-85-8.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu [06:38] Hello, I have some problems installing VLC === Parisi_zZz [n=jblparis@cpe-24-92-48-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] it seems that it can't install components [06:39] while I didnt make use of any backports [06:41] !source [06:41] znh: I don't know, could you explain it? [06:41] !sources [06:41] sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [06:43] I have the same issue with the recommended sources.list === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D133B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === _jesusfish_ [n=chatzill@64.7.129.113] has joined #kubuntu === seaLne discovers its very hard to install kubuntu when your space key is broken [06:46] <_jesusfish_> how much better, performance-wise, is 64-bit over 32-bit? [06:46] <_jesusfish_> using Kubuntu, that is [06:46] doing what? [06:47] <_jesusfish_> in general [06:47] hmmmm, wiccan spam, something isn't right with that [06:47] _jesusfish_: in general not a lot, for a few important things around 2x. [06:48] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: I'm prolly going from a P4 2.0 to a Sepmron 2800+ 64-bit, wondering if I should install Kubuntu for 64-bit [06:48] Blissex: i notice you casually dismiss the performance LOSS you'll get in some cases, too :) [06:48] _jesusfish_: depends a lot on what you do. [06:49] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: mainly desktop use, some kernel building/compiling, and audio encoding [06:49] nikkia: that is rare and not very big. And he asked about increases :-) [06:49] Blissex: i wouldn't call it rare [06:49] Blissex: anything that hammers pointers a lot, is going to incur a speed loss [06:49] and a decrease is just a negative increase, so its still relevant to the question :P [06:50] _jesusfish_: audio (and video) encoding may be rather better :-) [06:50] nikkia: nah, losses because of the doubling of pointer sizes tend to be minimal, because of caching etc. [06:50] <_jesusfish_> it also means I'll have setup a 32-bit environment for Flash, etc [06:50] blissex, umm, in those situations, caching quality is decreases, as your cache size is reduced [06:50] _jesusfish_: thats the big deal. [06:51] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: which I don't really mind doing, if I decide it's worthwhile to go 64-bit [06:51] _jesusfish_: tbh, unless you have a need for 64bit, right now, the problems outweight the benefits, by a long way [06:51] ie, no up-to-date KDE, many packages missing, etc [06:52] <_jesusfish_> nikkia: perfect, that's what I needed to hear [06:52] _jesusfish_: in AMD64 mode the really big advantages are: much better floating point, much better encryption, much large programs. [06:52] <_jesusfish_> nikkia: thx === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] Blissex: the floating point is identical between 32bit and 64bit modes [06:52] _jesusfish_: but yes as says it is a bit of a haddle to have 64 bits. [06:52] AMD did not touch the FPU at all when they 'upgraded' the x86 architecture :) [06:52] nikkia: no, it is completely different. [06:52] <_jesusfish_> ya, doesn't really matter that much [06:52] (erm, that is, touched it from the Athlon XP) [06:53] <_jesusfish_> my 2800+ should smoke my 2.0 anyways [06:54] the 'number of registers' issue should be a minimal difference too, since the A64 should be using those registers regardless, just using register renaming in 32bit mode to utilise them [06:54] nikkia: not that much... [06:54] _jesusfish_: ah yes, it should be indeed a lot faster. [06:54] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: costing me next to nothing to upgrade [06:55] hi [06:55] _jesusfish_: if you want more speed, make sure you get a processor with the 512K cache, and possibly 1M cache, that really helps with the sort of stuff you want to do. [06:55] does anybody know how to get gpsdrive working without lags? [06:56] _jesusfish_: which might rule out the Sempron though, because most Semprons are half cache. [06:57] _jesusfish_: it may be a good investment to spend a bit more on the bigger cache CPU, even at a lower speed grade. [06:57] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: too much of a price dif [06:58] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: I don't have any really heavy needs anyways [06:58] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: it'd cost me about 2x to go to A64 [06:59] if i wanna install plugins to firefox? i dont go download them with the built in firefox plugin manager? ill apt-get install flashsupport? === crodler [n=crodler@136.Red-80-35-111.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] <_jesusfish_> libben: depends [06:59] <_jesusfish_> libben: for flash, you get the Kbuntu flash packages [07:00] <_jesusfish_> libben: I don't think the plugin manager actually provides many Linux plugins anyways, actually [07:00] macromedia? [07:00] <_jesusfish_> ya [07:01] weird that it doesnt work with the built in manager === jone [n=jone@a81-197-161-213.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] <_jesusfish_> libben: there's too many linux platforms for it to really work well [07:01] flashplayer-mozilla [07:01] what more do i need? [07:02] <_jesusfish_> libben: whatever you want :) [07:02] <_jesusfish_> libben: maybe java at some point [07:03] if i select flash-mozilla [07:03] <_jesusfish_> but none are _needed_ [07:03] it will install the dep mozilla-browser [07:03] i dont want a third browser =( [07:03] _jesusfish_: thats unlikely, I'll have a look. [07:03] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: where I am, it's how it is [07:04] _jesusfish_: the difference between Sempron and A64 should not be that large... [07:04] _jesusfish_: unlucky though. [07:04] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: Sempron 2800+ 64-bit is $89CAD, cheapest A64 is $189 [07:04] _jesusfish_: impressive. Also because CA$89 is really a low price. [07:05] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: ya...that's pretty much why I'm doing this...wasn't actually planned === jone [n=jone@a81-197-161-213.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:06] _jesusfish_: if you are really a value shopper you might just want to upgrade to a 32 bit athlon. There are impressively low priced Barton CPUs around. [07:06] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: I have a friend who needs a computer, and have a lot of extra parts laying around...so I sell her my board, cpu, ram and toss it with my extra parts, and I pretty much have a free upgrade [07:06] Blissex: *shrug* sounds about fair, 48 here [07:06] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: not many Socket A's here now [07:07] nikkia: canadian dollars are so cheap that translates to almost nothing :-) [07:07] _jesusfish_: thats the poblem indeed. [07:07] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: any way I go, it's better than what I have [07:08] _jesusfish_: yes, thats not a bad idea. [07:08] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: and I help a friend out at the same time [07:08] 48 = CA$104, but that 48 is including tax, which the CA$89 probably isn't [07:08] _jesusfish_: you have been quibbling about second order effects. [07:08] without tax, its 41, or CA$88 [07:08] _jesusfish_: so me too. [07:08] <_jesusfish_> lol === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] <_jesusfish_> Blissex: my PowerBook does most of my heavy work === ^rob^ [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] <^rob^> howdy [07:10] <^rob^> does anybody know if quanta can use subversion? - or is there any plgn for quanta for subversion? === ^rob^ [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has left #kubuntu [] === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === soliste [n=soliste@cimiez-1-82-228-241-32.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] should i install the update in azureus? [07:18] some kind of a tracker it says [07:32] I need a ftp program that can handle ssl .. i would love the flashfxp version for linux,... wich one ? [07:34] http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/gnex_faq.htm [07:34] sorry === slow-motion [n=Slow-Mot@p548DE765.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] damit [07:35] i cant contiune on downloading. [07:36] ive copied my unfinished files from xp partition that i got moounted... to my home folder. === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0D4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:38] and when i loaded .torrent file the same one i used on winxp,.. it tells me it cant download... it did start the check all the way up to 73 percent where i stopped it in windows..... and then when its gonna continue load from there.. it says error. [07:38] can it be because it dont has right chmod values? [07:38] havent used chmod before [07:44] anyone ? [07:46] libben try to get flashfxp running with wine [07:47] MxxCon: well that one is easy to do... [07:47] but ill allways get promted with that my version is not valid. [07:48] cause i had have it installed way longer then the demo lets me have it. [07:48] and it senses it. and i cant be able to type in the reg key for it either =( [07:48] so its a bummer there [07:51] anyone wanna help me let me open up the rights for my folder ? [07:52] are you accessing file on windows partition? [07:53] no, ive copied it over to my ~/dvd-r folder [07:53] and when i loaded it in azureus to catch up on where i left it on downloading it says it cant [07:53] well, the output is alot more then that =) [07:54] but i figure its something with the rights when i copied it over === keys [n=keys@roi-3a1.cable.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] you better off asking in az channel..it might be something specific to that client [07:56] it's on this network [07:56] well, the problem is a linux problem and not a az problem [07:56] i figure it has something with the rights of my folder that i copied. [07:56] you sure? you can resume that file with another bt client? [07:56] so try 'chmod 755 file' [07:57] can i do chmodd 755 folder? [07:57] and what does 755 ? === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu === _manuel [n=manuel@201.153.135.142] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] 755 numbers relate to owner, group, everybody [08:01] numbers are created by: 1 is execute, 2 is write, 4 is read [08:02] sum of all or part of 1, 2, 4 gives you result above === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66164.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:03] so owner can read,write,execute, group and everybody can read and execute but not write [08:03] <_manuel> Hi, is it possible to export a ssh session via vnc? something like linuxvnc package === slow-motion [n=Slow-Mot@p548DE765.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] pleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!??? [08:10] :(( [08:10] no body knows [08:10] :(( === flaviu [n=flaviu@82.79.149.44] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] I've got a problem....I can't acces synaptic , nor kynaptic [08:11] if I write in the konsole sudo synaptic I receive the following error: [08:11] synaptic:8107): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [08:12] if I write sudo kynaptic , I receive this: [08:12] kynaptic: cannot connect to X server [08:12] can anyone help ? [08:12] they are graphical progs, just run them and they should prompt for your passwd [08:14] or kdesu === ORiON [n=orion@cpe-70-117-2-253.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] press alt+f2 and write the name of the programm [08:16] where can i edit the shortcuts ? =) [08:17] control center? [08:17] havent looked yet [08:17] yep...I've tryed [08:17] but nothing happens if I write kynoptic [08:18] right klick on the k button and there is a option for editing the menu === hetzz [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] If I write synoptic it sais that I should run that program as root user [08:18] right klick on the k button and there is a option for editing the menu [08:20] to launch kynaptic you need to kdesu first from the run command (kdesu kynaptic) [08:21] thanks jjesse , it works [08:21] :D === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D3B9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] ah right sorry i just use apt-cache/apt-get as i find them easier [08:24] hmm i can run kynaptic fine with out kdesu before it [08:24] ignore that [08:24] :) [08:24] for me it's fine with kdesu before [08:24] :) [08:25] one more question... === Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] what's the name of the package ( plugin ) with wich I can see the flashes on a web page ? [08:27] flaviu: libflash-swfplugin [08:27] flaviu: libflash-mozplugin [08:28] not swf [08:29] thanks === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-79-171.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === lwizardl [n=james@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] hi [08:36] i want to format a ntfs drive for use (read/write) access in linux. how do i do it? [08:37] you want to keep the ntfs file partition or change it? [08:38] change it [08:38] i just had drivers saved to it [08:38] i've got them on cdrw now === Pandziura [n=root@217.129.129.117] has joined #kubuntu === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@171-163-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@171-163-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu === soliste [n=soliste@cimiez-1-82-228-241-32.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] why isnt there a good ftp program that handles ssl connections any good? and with gui.. [09:06] gftp doesnt work? [09:06] never managed to login to my friends server that uses ssl before when i was on ubuntu [09:07] lwizardl: use parted to wipe that puppy (g- and qt- variants available) [09:07] havent tried on this installation... but i never got it to work 6 months ago on ubuntu. [09:07] nalioth i got azureus to work btw. [09:07] <_jesusfish_> libben: KDE has good ftp built in [09:07] libben: really? what was the holdup? [09:08] dont know... but ive installed flashplugin-nonfree before i tried it after a reboot of the box.. and all suddenly it started to work [09:09] thinking of remove the app i have for azureus.. cause i can only start it by ./azureus. think i can install the one from synaptic.. and then update it within the program.. cause its only java? [09:09] libben: would you like to learn a trick? [09:09] yeah [09:09] not a trick, actually [09:12] shoot shoot [09:12] libben what version of ffxp did you try with wine? === _robert [n=robert@i577B0E1A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:13] libben: if you put your azureus folder in /usr/local/bin/ you can use your kde menu mangler to run a link to it [09:13] the newest i think... === _manuel [n=manuel@201.153.135.142] has joined #kubuntu === _robert [n=robert@i577B0E1A.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:14] hm, a io-slave i'm trying to compile wants the header kswap.h, but i can't find any such header in the dev packages for my 3.4.2 [09:14] menu mangler? [09:14] explain further. [09:15] chakie: kdelibs4-dev [09:15] ii kdelibs4-dev 3.4.2-0ubuntu0 development files for the KDE core libraries [09:15] libben: in kde you have a menu editor [09:16] yes [09:16] in there now [09:16] chakie: you should have /usr/include/kde/kswap.h === jpegfr [n=jpegfr@jpegfr.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] ls: /usr/include/kde/kswap.h: No such file or directory [09:16] chakie: hoary or breezy? [09:16] hoary === jpegfr [n=jpegfr@jpegfr.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:17] with the 3.4.2 packages added [09:17] it should exist under Horay [09:17] Hoary^ [09:17] find /usr/include/ -name "kswap.h" [09:17] nothing found [09:17] libben: /usr/local/bin is where you put programs YOU compile or add to the system, putting the azureus folder there, gets it into your $PATH, and out of your homedir [09:18] yeah,... ive remember little from that ive learnt like 5 months ago [09:18] maybe the packages have by mistake left some headers out [09:18] this would be the ipod io-slave, so i can't play with my brand new toy before i get this compiled :) === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] crimsun@warped:~$ dpkg-deb -c kdelibs4-dev_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.3_i386.deb |grep kswap [09:19] -rw-r--r-- root/root 10743 2004-11-06 17:16:29 ./usr/include/kde/kswap.h [09:19] it definitely exists in hoary-security's package, which is 3.4, but if they don't exist in 3.4.2, then yes, it would seem to be a packaging issue [09:19] nalioth so then what in kde menu editor ? just create a shortcut in there with run command "azureus" ? [09:20] libben: i assume there is a "browse" button in kmenuedit [09:20] point it at the azureus shell script [09:20] crimsun: this i see with google (no link): "+ * Adding kswap.h to the package. It's no longer used in kdelibs. ." [09:20] that's the changelog for the ipodslave [09:20] i'd better just get the cvs version [09:20] sounds like a plan [09:22] yup [09:22] nalioth so what this does... puts it as it was normally installed via deb? [09:22] libben: no, if /azureus now rides in /usr/local/bin, then it's what would happen if you compiled it yourself [09:25] well its in the path so i can type azureus everywhere and it will start [09:25] so...i'm looking for krusader 1.60 for kununtu 5.04, any ideas? [09:25] libben: not quite [09:26] MxxCon: it's not in the repos? === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [09:27] i see only 1.51 [09:28] The new Red 5 Studios Website is online for this new MMOG developer based in Southern California formed by former members of Blizzard's World of Warcraft team. Here's the announcement: [09:28] Welcome to Red 5. We are quietly at work, building the world$(B!G(Bs best MMO team here in Southern California. Red 5$(B!G(Bs founders share a history of making hit games for companies such as Blizzard Entertainment. After o [09:28] oops, sorry [09:28] i found 1.60 .deb files but they don't install cuase of dependancies [09:29] MxxCon: if that's so, then you'll need to either look in backports, or compile from the wild. are you using the 3.4.2 KDE? [09:29] yes, 3.4.2 [09:30] MxxCon: best option is to compile from the wild, then. Debian pkgs can break your system [09:30] oh ya, i think i found that 1.60 .deb in backports [09:30] MxxCon: if in b/p it should have dependencies to use with it [09:30] darn, the cvs version of the ipodslave is currently badly broken [09:30] i looked into compiling it, but i started selecting missing packages and it turned into a mile long train :) === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] libxext, x11lib, qt3-mt, etc etc etc etc...i'd have to install like 70megs worth of dev packages [09:32] MxxCon: such is the life of the dweller on the razors edge [09:32] (not in gentoo world ;) === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] hi [09:33] I have a question [09:33] lwells: ask away [09:34] I have Kubuntu and i have KDE running, I cannot find the file manager === edulix [n=edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] lwells: konqueror? [09:34] is Konqueror the file manager? [09:34] i'm kinda surprised that repo wasn't updated yet..1.60 was released a few month ago and is pretty significant update [09:35] lwells it's like IE in windows..it's both file manager and browser [09:35] lwells: yes it is, also a web browser [09:35] oh ok, just so used to the window file manager [09:35] lwells: konqueror will seem familiar to you, then [09:36] how do you get the tree to show on the side [09:37] lwells, hit F9 [09:37] there are a few plugins that can go in the sidebar -> F9 [09:37] hit the little home Icon for a tree view [09:38] wow very nice thanks [09:38] or the Red Folder for a tree view that starts at the base filesystem === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] konqueror is like explorer on steroids [09:39] is this room always available for help? [09:39] with Tabs! [09:39] yeah and #kde is good also [09:40] or #ubuntu , it's always packed [09:40] also help file :D [09:40] can i get general linux help here too? [09:40] lwells: certainly [09:40] yes, KDE help system rocks also [09:40] lwells: and maybe winduhs help, too [09:40] but not from me, lol [09:41] I'm teh winduhs expert [09:41] lwells you should try krusader [09:41] much better file manager [09:41] krusader? [09:41] yuck [09:41] lwells: krusader is a kde version of mc [09:41] more like kde version of tc [09:42] can you preview your media files in krusader? [09:42] chavo on mouseover? [09:42] it is 2005, you know [09:42] you can just like in konq [09:43] MxxCon: really? mine always wants to pop open some other proggy [09:43] Hmm, haven't tried it in a while. but konq just flat out rocks [09:43] you guys are a great resource [09:43] i just converted this old laptop to Kubuntu === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] what other channels are there that are good [09:47] depends on topic [09:48] linux help [09:49] start with google. self-education is the best way to learn === Jefis [n=jefis@85.206.102.112] has joined #kubuntu [09:49] i do have a question, is there a way to put the home folder on the desktop? [09:50] lwells: you can drag it in konqueror and 'link' it there, if you wish [09:51] my personal rule is if after 30min of googling/trying to fix something i fail, i ask. [09:51] yes that worked, great [09:51] any other way is being lazy [09:52] i know, i know, i usually just look it up myself [09:52] but this is great chat site [09:52] (this is not a site) [09:52] ok, IRC room then [09:53] lwells: enjoy your 'new to unix' glow. im usually handing out fishing poles to folks [09:53] fishing poles? [09:54] one last question? [09:54] can you make the icons on the desktop bigger?? [09:54] yes [09:55] lwells: you can change ANYTHING you see in your new box [09:55] How do I do that? [09:55] go to control center [09:55] and look there [09:55] lwells: this is not windows [09:55] lwells: i believe in teaching folks to fish [09:55] ok i get it, lol [09:55] what nalioth is trying to say: RTFM :D [09:56] the whole parable goes: "give a man a fish, he eats once. teach a man to fish, he eats steadily" [09:56] or something to that effect [09:57] paraphrasing [09:57] but i get it [09:58] lwells: hanging out in #kubuntu and #ubuntu helping people will teach you a lot, also === theine [n=theine@c157250.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] well thanks for all your help [10:03] lwells: np === DocTomoe [n=martin@p54A93137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === DocTomoe [n=martin@p54A93137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:10] I run my kde at 1600x1200@85 hz, but its damn hard to read firefox [10:11] is there any better font or something that i can change [10:11] libben: in firefox prefs, can you change the font size? [10:12] yes i can. but isnt there a better font or something? [10:13] libben: yes. [10:14] libben: this is linux, you can run wingdings if you like === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] windings==windows? =) === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] or u ment the windings font? i think there is one called that =) [10:15] the font [10:15] of chaos [10:15] Blissex: wich one? [10:16] libben, apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [10:16] then you can change the font and style for firefox [10:17] allready has it installed =) === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qbast@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] aha [10:19] libben: get the 'msttcorefonts' package. === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === Red_Bullet [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu === redbullet_ [n=redbulle@83.148.126.212] has joined #kubuntu [10:20] thats the one... installed that when i was ubuntu long time ago.... === _vince [n=vince@CPE-65-25-223-196.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qbast@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Going] === zorba64 [n=michael3@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:27] libben, you should figure out how to correct specify your physical monitor size, then all fonts and icons should adjust accordingly === tmarquar [n=tmarquar@p5488B0F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === narg [n=narg@dsl-65-171-97-57.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] ? [10:30] xplain further please. =) [10:30] does ndiswarapper on kubuntu already have the win drivers? === zorba64 [n=michael3@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:36] !esd [10:36] esd is probably Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously. [10:37] pussfeller: no ndis wrapper has MS files [10:37] tell me how to install the best video program for linux [10:37] end which is the best [10:37] program [10:37] please [10:37] Red_Bullet: quit repeating [10:38] Red_Bullet: mplayer, xine, vlc, kaffeine, noatun are all video players [10:38] Red_Bullet: install them all and use the one(s) you like [10:38] does someone knows how i can teach xmms utf-8? i read different websites, but nothing really helps me [10:38] but === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [10:39] kynaptic could't found [10:39] I got a window totally off screen. How can I grab it to move it on screen...? (the bug leading to this is in bugzilla and being worked on) [10:39] !tell Red_Bullet about sources === henk [n=henk@a80-126-99-4.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:41] nalioth: hi [10:41] chx: howdy [10:42] nalioth: I renamed my monitor to monitower :D [10:42] chx: right click on the button with the offscreen programs name on it [10:43] chx: click "move" and use your arrow keys to bring the dogie back into the corral [10:43] nalioth: and then...? no move in that menu [10:43] chx: i keep forgetting i'm not in #ubuntu [10:43] minimize, maximize, shade, always on top, close [10:44] chx: is it on another desktop? [10:44] chx go to control center, keyboard shortcuts and assign one to move window [10:44] then active that offscreen app and move it [10:44] nalioth: it's just off screen due a bug -- KDE desktop does not resize on xrandr -left [10:45] any tip on a font for firefox to make it look good in most sites? [10:45] MxxCon: brilliant idea. [10:47] get the msfonts libben [10:48] MxxCon: and how could I do that...? DCOP call...? [10:50] pussfeller: allready done that. [10:50] !tell Red_Bullet about sources [10:50] wondering on wich one to use. [10:50] whats the common one that everyone else use [10:50] Red_Bullet: you can /msg the bot for any factoid you like or /msg ubotu help [10:51] oo 10x [10:51] :) === ira [n=ira@134.154.226.156] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [10:53] will the breezy preview release be out today? === theine [n=theine@c157250.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu === ira [n=ira@134.154.226.156] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ira [n=NewbKel@134.154.226.156] has joined #kubuntu === ira is now known as iKel [10:57] how could I assign a hotkey to "Move Window"? [10:57] did you find where to do it? [10:58] I'm trying to get my system up and running correctly and I can't change the resolution higher than 800x600.. [10:58] MxxCon: I know KHotKeys [10:58] My guess is I need some video card drivers. How do I go about getting and installing those? [10:58] MxxCon: in the Action submenu the only relevant stuff I can think of is a DCOP Call. [10:59] it's in 'System->Window->Move windows' [10:59] global shortcuts [10:59] Global Shortcuts! === chx is stupid === hetzz [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] MxxCon: i was in KhotKeys instead of Keyboard Shortcuts [11:00] iKel: how high can your monitor go? [11:01] hussam: 168x1050 [11:01] *1680x1050 === paolo [n=paolo@host149-188.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] iKel: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf === paolo [n=paolo@host149-188.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-79-171.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [11:05] iKel: under section screen [11:06] iKel: welcome to the club! ask me. anything regarding your screen. I bought a Dell 2005FPW yesterday, same res. [11:07] iKel: add the modes you want, "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" etc... [11:07] hussam: It has the mode 1280x1024 in the config file (which is probably all this card can handle) yet I cannot change it in the Display settings. [11:08] iKel: which card, which driver? [11:08] chx: Cool! I love this monitor. I actually have two of them side by side [11:08] chx: ATI Rage II [11:08] iKel: I'd love one , too [11:09] ATI Rage II ? man, you spent a thousand dollars (at least, whatever your currency is) on monitors and you have a Rage II??? For $50 you can get a pretty good card these days. [11:10] but still, I'd recommend ATI binary drivers. [11:10] chx: haha, I have pentium D with a GeForce 6800 to power both monitors. I'm just trying to get another machine setup. [11:11] unfortunately it's not mine... I'm at work. =( [11:11] try === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] Option "XrandR" "On" [11:12] in the device section [11:12] I use that for rotate, but it's X Resize and Rotate so maybe it helps you too :) [11:16] it won't let me save the config file [11:16] says I don't have access [11:22] iKel: the xconfig file? you have to do it as root. use sudo [11:23] I'm unfamiliar with sudo === astro76 [n=james@68-168-170-58.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:24] I have the config file open in Kate. === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === blank [n=blank@adsl-68-93-4-196.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] iKel: sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:30] cool thanks === blank [n=blank@adsl-68-93-4-196.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === blank is now known as blankc === blank [n=blank@adsl-68-90-173-176.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:34] iKel: or sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( doesn't matter what text editor you use ) === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2C962.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:37] according to here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule , breezy preview release should be out today. Is it out yet? === lwizardl [n=ubuntu@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === lwizardl [n=ubuntu@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:41] !sources [11:41] sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 === hetzz [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] does anyone in here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer? === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === lwizardl [n=ubuntu@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] hi [11:54] in terminal how do i get to my hdd1 drive ? === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-68-90-175-9.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === svedo [n=svedo@c-a74171d5.1911-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [12:00] how do i extract 91 rar files? that only has extension .001 - .099