| ajmitch | never too late | 12:02 |
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| pef | midnight here :) | 12:02 |
| ogra | yup, kets start | 12:02 |
| ogra | lets even | 12:02 |
| \sh | ok..welcome gents | 12:02 |
| ogra | or cats ? | 12:02 |
| \sh | who wants to host? | 12:03 |
| ogra | ajmitch, wants to give a status about transitions it seems | 12:03 |
| ogra | :) | 12:03 |
| === ajmitch wants to ask, not to give | ||
| ogra | hehe | 12:03 |
| === ajmitch will be in & out during this meeting, sadly | ||
| ogra | thats not written there :) | 12:04 |
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| ajmitch | due to inconvenient meeting time :) | 12:04 |
| \sh | well...guys lets get a move on ;) | 12:04 |
| ogra | ok, where are we | 12:04 |
| ogra | transition wise | 12:04 |
| dholbach | hi | 12:04 |
| \sh | As I said http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/frozenapps.txt this is the list of the last pieces of cxx trans | 12:05 |
| ogra | so cxx list has still a lot empty spots it seems | 12:05 |
| \sh | a lot? | 12:05 |
| \sh | 5 | 12:05 |
| dholbach | a lot? | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | libcrypto++ was something I looked it | 12:05 |
| dholbach | i don't consider this to be much | 12:05 |
| ogra | on the wiki it has a lot | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | it was *evil* | 12:05 |
| dholbach | ogra: a lot pieces that WERE transitioned ;) | 12:06 |
| \sh | aehm.... | 12:06 |
| ogra | so we should wipe the wiki, there is more then 5 empty rows | 12:06 |
| \sh | ogra: many of the gaps are kde stuff or libs which doesn't have to be | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | libcrypto++ can be synced from sid | 12:06 |
| dholbach | ogra: there are apps which just had to be rebuilt - those didnt have a note attached | 12:06 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: super | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | I'll write a nice email to elmo now | 12:06 |
| dholbach | the slang2 transition just links to the debian wiki site - i'm not quite sure how the status is around here | 12:07 |
| slomo | dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUSlang2Transition | 12:07 |
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| ajmitch | the main thing we want is apps installable & usable | 12:07 |
| bddebian | Hey folks, sorry I'm late | 12:07 |
| slomo | dholbach: "done" except packages that need someone who has slang knowledge | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | lib transitions are just a required part of that | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | yay!! bddebian! | 12:07 |
| ogra | mplayer-k6 and noatun-plugins are shown as rdepends for slang1 still | 12:07 |
| dholbach | slomo: cool | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: just in time to be volunteered for some work | 12:08 |
| slomo | ogra: mplayer-k6 doesn't exist anymore... | 12:08 |
| ogra | slomo, yup | 12:08 |
| bddebian | Uh oh, gotta run, the kids are screaming.. ;-) | 12:08 |
| slomo | ogra: i told elmo to remove it from the archives but he ignores me ;) | 12:08 |
| dholbach | slomo: a mail? | 12:08 |
| ogra | slomo, mail him | 12:08 |
| dholbach | UniverseUnmetDeps are not actually a transition, but they require some hands on them | 12:08 |
| slomo | ogra: i mailed him... also for some other stuff in that but i didn't get a answer yet... was 2 weeks ago | 12:09 |
| \sh | noatun-plugins is just a rebuild | 12:09 |
| \sh | IMHO | 12:09 |
| dholbach | i guess after preview we'll get a full test rebuild of the archive and know a lot more, aggregated on one site | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | ghc6: still not rebuilt, so on hold | 12:09 |
| ogra | slomo, mail again ? | 12:09 |
| \sh | dholbach: speaking of unmet deps | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty: rebuilt, but haddock FTBFS | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty: not rebuilt in archive though | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: it is already? | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | ah, ok :) | 12:09 |
| slomo | ogra: sure... i've forgotten about slang transition until daniel mentioned it some minutes ago :) | 12:09 |
| \sh | I think I will raise my agenda point a bit higher | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: i saw a new haddock upload today | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ghc6 / | 12:10 |
| sistpoty | :) | 12:10 |
| ogra | slomo, just poke elmo again if you dont get an answer within a week | 12:10 |
| slomo | ogra: will do | 12:10 |
| ogra | unmet deps is the normal motu work.... | 12:11 |
| \sh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition | 12:11 |
| ogra | i dont think we need to discuss it here | 12:11 |
| \sh | well we have to discuss | 12:11 |
| ogra | \sh, unmet deps should be as empty as possible... there is nothing to discuss | 12:12 |
| bddebian | heh | 12:12 |
| \sh | yes...we have some packages with missing install-deps | 12:12 |
| ogra | \sh, if there is a license issue etc that prevent the deps from entering, just ignore them | 12:13 |
| \sh | like kwiki, chinput, | 12:13 |
| ogra | so we still have a source package if users want to compile them on teir own | 12:13 |
| dholbach | it's like libdvdcss | 12:14 |
| dholbach | (although that's a enhances: ) | 12:14 |
| \sh | but some are not even in debian | 12:14 |
| \sh | kwiki -> libkwiki-perl -> not in debian | 12:14 |
| ogra | probably from dholbach's lats apt-get.org import in hoary | 12:14 |
| ogra | last indeed | 12:15 |
| bddebian | hehe | 12:15 |
| dholbach | ogra: don't think so | 12:15 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:15 |
| dholbach | Maintainer: Nick Phillips <nwp@debian.org> | 12:15 |
| dholbach | but nevermind | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | heh, nwp | 12:16 |
| === ajmitch wonders if he still lives in dunedin.. :) | ||
| ogra | Origin: Debian/unstable | 12:16 |
| ogra | seems like a debian package | 12:16 |
| dholbach | those rare occasions where we have non-free depends we should just ignore them | 12:16 |
| \sh | which one? | 12:16 |
| ogra | it enetred through a autosync | 12:16 |
| dholbach | it was the same for j2re1.3 in debian for ages | 12:16 |
| dholbach | they just couldnt ship it | 12:16 |
| ogra | but we have 1.4 now;) | 12:16 |
| dholbach | well ... | 12:17 |
| \sh | ok we forget about them? or should we put some on morgue? | 12:17 |
| dholbach | just ignore those rare cases | 12:17 |
| ajmitch | ignore | 12:17 |
| ajmitch | we can't do everything | 12:17 |
| ogra | yup | 12:17 |
| \sh | ok | 12:17 |
| dholbach | only on morgue if something is obviously wrong and cant be fixed | 12:17 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Sure YOU can ;-) | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | kwiki has RC bug in debian for this reason | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: nopoe | 12:18 |
| dholbach | shall we proceed? or do we have transition items we need to discuss? | 12:18 |
| dholbach | ...other transition items... | 12:18 |
| \sh | i think we quite good in time | 12:19 |
| \sh | so lets move | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | I think we're ok now.. | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | ah, malone policies... | 12:19 |
| dholbach | super | 12:19 |
| bddebian | yeah | 12:19 |
| === sistpoty hides | ||
| ajmitch | you may have seen bddebian attacking malone | 12:19 |
| ogra | i think they a quite clear ? | 12:19 |
| ogra | (the statuses) | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | ogra: the page is what we wrote up after I put it on the agenda | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | things like leaving bugs assigned to MOTU, status->accepted when you're working on it | 12:20 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i didnt look at the page :) | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | I was looking for some suggestions and/or consensus on those things | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | ogra: there's still time :) | 12:20 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Should they stay assigned to MOTU or assign them to ourselves? | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: assign to MOTU, imho | 12:21 |
| ogra | ajmitch, but its nice :) | 12:21 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I agree, just checking :-) | 12:21 |
| dholbach | yep, because we get the mails that way | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: that's my sole reason | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | currently the watch subscription is next to useless | 12:21 |
| bddebian | You can add yourself as CC right? | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | so maybe CC: is useful | 12:21 |
| ogra | if you grab a bug you can reassign to you if you want to make sure nobody else does duplicate work | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | ogra: I suggested marking it as Accepted & writing in something in the status field | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | or a comment | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | but as you're still BugMaster.. :) | 12:22 |
| ogra | i'm fine with everything... | 12:22 |
| sistpoty | perhaps some words about non-universe bugs in malone? | 12:22 |
| ogra | and i dont know who gave me the bugmaster title :) | 12:22 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Aye | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | ogra: we did | 12:23 |
| ogra | heh | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | and you became the bugzilla man | 12:23 |
| ogra | unintentional | 12:23 |
| ogra | :) | 12:23 |
| bddebian | traitor ;-) | 12:23 |
| sistpoty | ok, about non-universe bugs: bddebian and me had the idea to reject malone-bugs that are non-universe | 12:24 |
| ogra | bddebian, want the hob ? | 12:24 |
| \sh | ok..I think this is settled..ajmitchs notes are quite good | 12:24 |
| ajmitch | \sh: not just mine, mainly bmonty's | 12:24 |
| dholbach | sistpoty: nope... i don't think that's a good thing | 12:24 |
| ogra | sistpoty, yup, but with a nice commentz | 12:24 |
| bddebian | hehe | 12:24 |
| \sh | sistpoty: yeah...bugzilla bugs != universe bugs are handled the same | 12:24 |
| dholbach | sistpoty: main will move to malone soon too | 12:24 |
| ogra | dholbach, why ? they are reported wrong | 12:25 |
| sistpoty | yep, that's what we found out later ;) | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | ogra: then they'd need to be filed in bugzilla | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | at least until the big transition | 12:25 |
| \sh | dholbach: I think we should have this split until they're importing all the stuff into malone | 12:25 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yes, so add a comment that tells the reporter to report them in the right place | 12:25 |
| dholbach | shushing the users from one place to another isn't very nice | 12:25 |
| sistpoty | so, what should the policy be? file in bugzilla and refer to in malone? | 12:25 |
| dholbach | \sh: there will be no import - at least that's what i heard | 12:26 |
| ogra | dholbach, nobody looks in malone for main bugs, they get losts | 12:26 |
| dholbach | ogra: the 'gnome' team's don't get lost | 12:26 |
| bddebian | I was copying them to bugzilla but not sure that is right either | 12:26 |
| \sh | dholbach: there must be one ;) | 12:26 |
| ogra | so its better imho to notify the reporter | 12:26 |
| === ajmitch just doesn't want to lose potentially important bugs | ||
| dholbach | \sh: there will be one | 12:26 |
| ogra | dholbach, there are a lot of non gnome main bugs | 12:26 |
| \sh | or we're importing those "wrong place" bugs into bugzilla | 12:26 |
| dholbach | ogra: of course | 12:26 |
| ogra | and its odd to lose them | 12:27 |
| dholbach | but just closing/rejecting seems wrong to me :) | 12:27 |
| ogra | so until malone is for main too, i'd propose to close them with a predefined note | 12:27 |
| \sh | dholbach: mdz is doing it as well with a comment: use malone on bugzilla | 12:27 |
| bddebian | Then go kick the main folks to look at them dholbach ;-) | 12:27 |
| dholbach | \sh: because bugzilla was never meant to track universe bugs | 12:28 |
| ogra | bddebian, they will eventually... but the current bugs will be lost then... | 12:28 |
| dholbach | \sh: but for malone it's a different case | 12:28 |
| \sh | dholbach: yes right...so another transition ;) | 12:28 |
| \sh | hmm..I just broke my 300 watt boxes | 12:29 |
| ajmitch | ok.. | 12:29 |
| \sh | so whats best? | 12:29 |
| ajmitch | any agreement here? :) | 12:29 |
| ogra | vote ? | 12:30 |
| ogra | who is for closing with nice comment ? | 12:30 |
| ogra | + | 12:30 |
| ogra | ok, i'm the only one... | 12:30 |
| \sh | +1 from me...and for important bugs I think we can handle a copy into bugzilla as well | 12:30 |
| sistpoty | hm... there was s.th. said on sep 5 in -motu... i just try to find it in the logs | 12:30 |
| dholbach | notifying a probable fixer seems best to me - like a possible kubuntu team for kde bugs | 12:30 |
| bddebian | Can someone define "soon" for moving main to malone? | 12:31 |
| ogra | bddebian, probably breezy release time | 12:31 |
| ogra | or short after | 12:31 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 12:31 |
| \sh | ok..we're going to preview time, so no bug should be lost, right? | 12:32 |
| ogra | yup | 12:32 |
| bddebian | BTW, what about Hoary bugs, main or not? | 12:32 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:32 |
| ogra | its a bit odd, i'd aks mdz, but he's building the preview next door | 12:33 |
| dholbach | we could take that to ubuntu-devel@ | 12:34 |
| bddebian | If we need visibility of bugs prior to breezy release, I'd say move them to bugzilla and reject with comment pointing to bugzilla bug# | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: good idea | 12:34 |
| \sh | 2 situations: 1. close the bug with commment + inserting bugtext etc. into bugzilla, or 2. creating a new bug in bugzilla and giving a link into malone to ubuntu bugzilla? | 12:34 |
| ogra | thats quite time consuming... to fiddle with two slow bugtrackers | 12:34 |
| \sh | ogra: bugzilla is quite fast regarding malone ,-) | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | ogra: yes, and there are a *lot* of bugs | 12:35 |
| dholbach | i think we should take the list of arguments to the mailing list and hear some other opinions - since it's them that receive those bug reports in the end | 12:35 |
| ogra | i would assume if the reporter thinks the bug is valuable, he/she will re-report it in bugzilla him/herself | 12:35 |
| \sh | ogra: good point | 12:35 |
| dholbach | but that's annoying | 12:35 |
| ogra | as well as its for bug triage if you have to copy all the bugs | 12:36 |
| dholbach | to figure out the internal processes of a distro to report a bug | 12:36 |
| dholbach | hrm | 12:36 |
| ogra | dholbach, they are told you in th comment... | 12:36 |
| ogra | including a link to bugzilla | 12:37 |
| sistpoty | imo dholbach is right, if joe user reports a bug, he might be scared if he has to wonder about where he files bugs for main, universe... | 12:37 |
| ogra | lest just set up a copy paste text with the right link | 12:37 |
| dholbach | who is for deferral and discussion on the mailing list? | 12:37 |
| dholbach | since it not just affects us | 12:37 |
| bddebian | probabably makes sense + from me | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | makes sense | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | I'd say that most of these main bugs are old/duplicates of ones in bugzilla | 12:38 |
| dholbach | and it'd raise more attention - by bug squashers, if we have it on the list ;) | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | yep | 12:39 |
| bddebian | I was searching bugzilla before copying them but if they were closed I wouldn't have seen it. :-( | 12:39 |
| \sh | anyways..we're close to main malone takeover ,-) | 12:39 |
| \sh | bddebian: advance search ;) | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | \sh: close, but malone still needs a lot of love | 12:39 |
| dholbach | shall we move on? | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | yes | 12:40 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i'm pretty sure sabdfl will move main to malone at the conference or shortly after | 12:40 |
| bddebian | \sh: :-) | 12:40 |
| \sh | ajmitch: agreed :) I like bugzilla as well ;) because everybody is using it....until final notice ;) | 12:40 |
| dholbach | ok | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | ogra: bradb said that he has most of november for working on searching | 12:40 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yup... | 12:40 |
| dholbach | next item on the agenda was? | 12:40 |
| ogra | bugday | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | more malone love! | 12:41 |
| \sh | Malone Bug Love Day - shall we dedicate some time to bug triage & fixing before release? (AndrewMitchell) | 12:41 |
| bddebian | wheee | 12:41 |
| dholbach | ahhhh good one | 12:41 |
| ogra | probably someone would like to take over the job from me | 12:41 |
| === ajmitch seems to have most of the agenda items for this meeting | ||
| ogra | my bugday work fell over the last weeks due to edubuntu | 12:41 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: That's because you ROCK d00d :-) | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | ogra: some of us have started on malone triage & fixing | 12:41 |
| \sh | ogra: Ithink we need more PR ,-) | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | ogra: I've closed a few bugs recently, but a concerted effort to squash bugs could be good :) | 12:42 |
| dholbach | we should get going with it - after preview release this might be interesting to get involved there | 12:42 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Agreed. I was just glancing over ones I thought could be easily fixed or rejected | 12:42 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i'm not talking about common triage | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | many thanks to dholbach for getting universe-bugs setup | 12:42 |
| ogra | i was talking about weekly bugdays | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | ogra: yep | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | #ubuntu-bugs is still open for that | 12:43 |
| ogra | yup | 12:43 |
| === bddebian points at ajmitch | ||
| ajmitch | do we want to schedule something on the calendar? | 12:43 |
| ogra | but there is not much going on | 12:43 |
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| ajmitch | ogra: no, dilys seems dead | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | but it's a good place for discussion of bugs | 12:44 |
| \sh | ogra: it must be a real community event | 12:44 |
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| ogra | ajmitch, died today killed by a netsplit | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | someone needs to be BugMaster & pimp the bug day ;) | 12:44 |
| \sh | bddebian you have a blog? | 12:44 |
| ogra | \sh, thats what we wanted the bugdays to be | 12:44 |
| bddebian | \sh: Nah, my life is too boring I told ya :-) | 12:44 |
| \sh | ogra: yeah, but only the old farts are waiting ,-) | 12:44 |
| ogra | ajmitch, exactly... | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | ogra: dilys no longer reports new bugs in channel | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | who wants to be BugMaster? :) | 12:45 |
| \sh | bddebian: ok...you are the bugmaster...u spammed my inbox so you have to be punished ,-> | 12:45 |
| dholbach | the team | 12:45 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i can make the announcements, but it costs me the whole workday to care for all the stuff | 12:45 |
| bddebian | Doh | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok, so we can do it - you need to get edubuntu perfect by release :) | 12:45 |
| bddebian | What's involved. I'd be happy to do it but I have to watch my time. | 12:46 |
| ogra | ajmitch, it would already be helpful if people would hang out in #ubuntu-bugs and answer newbie bugfixer questions etc | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | schedule a day, people meetup in #ubuntu-bugs, advertise it | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | ogra: nobody really asks in there yet | 12:46 |
| === ajmitch is constantly lurking there | ||
| ogra | ajmitch, it happened when i announced the bugdays regulary | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok | 12:47 |
| ogra | a while ago | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | 1 week from now? | 12:47 |
| dholbach | shall we collect ideas on a wikipage for it? | 12:47 |
| ogra | dholbach, we have one ;) | 12:47 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Is that soon enough? :-) | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: if you want, but I think it needs to be soon | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: probably not | 12:47 |
| dholbach | oh ok | 12:47 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | 12:47 |
| \sh | ogra: do we get some marketing things? I think we have to "kder" those guys | 12:47 |
| === ajmitch would like it to be on a weekend,since we're mostly volunteers here :) | ||
| pef | bye ! | 12:48 |
| ogra | at the bottom waits a bugday section for input since months | 12:48 |
| dholbach | \sh: lure :) | 12:48 |
| bddebian | Later pef | 12:48 |
| slomo | ajmitch++ | 12:48 |
| \sh | dholbach: lure? sure? ,-) | 12:48 |
| ogra | \sh, kiko promised some to me to give away... | 12:48 |
| dholbach | slomo++ | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | ogra: free stuff? :) | 12:49 |
| ogra | overnext saturday ? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok | 12:49 |
| bddebian | works for me but weekends are tough for me (kids) | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | date? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: that's ok | 12:49 |
| ogra | ajmitch, free stuff ?? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: it's mainly getting people in & filing bugs | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | we can clean up later | 12:49 |
| dholbach | saturday | 12:49 |
| bddebian | OK | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | ogra: you said stuff to give away ;) | 12:49 |
| slomo | dholbach: why? i haven't said something usefu, i'm just for ajmitch's comment that it has to be on a weekend ;) | 12:49 |
| dholbach | slomo: :) | 12:49 |
| \sh | bddebian: you're such a funny man :) would you like to heat up the masses? := | 12:50 |
| ogra | ajmitch, merchandise stuff for best bugfixer etc | 12:50 |
| bddebian | :-) | 12:50 |
| \sh | bddebian: I mean what I say...we need someone who is heating up | 12:50 |
| ogra | slomo, dholbach too :) | 12:50 |
| bddebian | \sh: I try but I tend to annoy more than I make laugh :-) | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | ogra: are we in the running for that? ;) | 12:50 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i can talk to kiko | 12:51 |
| bddebian | Based on karma? :-) | 12:51 |
| \sh | bddebian: ask the others..;) | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: there are people with >200K karma :) | 12:52 |
| bddebian | Doh, I gotta get moving then :-) | 12:52 |
| dholbach | ok... how do we go from here? | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: fix stuff.. | 12:52 |
| bddebian | ooh, I have 100 now | 12:52 |
| bddebian | Priorities? | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: I'm surprised you didn't put apt-get.org on the agenda? | 12:52 |
| dholbach | announce it? and just go? | 12:52 |
| bddebian | transitions->unmetdeps->bugs or different? | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: you still want people to get in & review stuff? | 12:52 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Heh | 12:52 |
| ogra | dholbach, yes | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: yes, please | 12:52 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: my head was spinning all day | 12:53 |
| ogra | we should probably hint to both, #ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuu-mot and #ubuntu-bugs | 12:53 |
| ogra | oops... my keyboard | 12:53 |
| bddebian | heh | 12:53 |
| slomo | lol | 12:53 |
| bddebian | ogra: It's not a Dell is it? | 12:53 |
| ogra | ubuntu-motu and ubuntu-bugs | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | ok | 12:53 |
| ogra | bddebian, acer | 12:53 |
| bddebian | ah | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | ogra: 10th or 17th? | 12:54 |
| \sh | lets give it a try | 12:54 |
| ogra | 17th | 12:54 |
| dholbach | 17th | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | k | 12:54 |
| dholbach | super | 12:54 |
| ogra | :) | 12:54 |
| dholbach | woohoo! :) | 12:54 |
| ogra | consensus, cool :) | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | we covered \sh's topic | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | meeting time! | 12:54 |
| ogra | yup | 12:54 |
| \sh | yeah | 12:54 |
| === ajmitch thinks +- 12 hours | ||
| ogra | dholbach, make a offer, your topic | 12:55 |
| dholbach | a bit earlier than 24:00 in my timezone would be nice :) | 12:55 |
| ogra | 12:00 in your TZ ? :) | 12:55 |
| dholbach | dunno how fine that is for other folks | 12:55 |
| \sh | lunchtime during office days ;) | 12:55 |
| dholbach | 12:00 would be 10:00 utc | 12:55 |
| ogra | its + or - 12h | 12:56 |
| \sh | what about 12:00 UTC? | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | meeting started during work hours for me today | 12:56 |
| ogra | 12:00 UTC ? | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | 12:00 UTC is midnight, fine by me | 12:56 |
| \sh | ajmitch: what is 12:00 UTC? | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | midnight here.. :) | 12:56 |
| dholbach | hehe... :) | 12:56 |
| === ajmitch is UTC+12 | ||
| ogra | so we flip the TZ basically :) | 12:56 |
| \sh | ogra: it's 14:00 gmt+2 | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | at least for a few more weeks | 12:56 |
| ogra | \sh, i know | 12:57 |
| \sh | we can do it in switch mode | 12:57 |
| dholbach | ok 10 utc? 12 utc? | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | ok, I switch to UTC+13 on 1st sunday of oct :) | 12:57 |
| \sh | 12:00 utc is fine | 12:57 |
| ogra | every second meeting 12 / 22 UTC ? | 12:57 |
| dholbach | 22nd september, 12 utc? | 12:57 |
| \sh | something like this | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok, meetings each 2 weeks still? | 12:57 |
| ogra | do we need each 2 weeks ? | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | not really | 12:58 |
| ogra | recently we always had agenda items, so i guess yes | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | as we'd end up with a meeting on release day | 12:58 |
| \sh | 4 weeks is enough | 12:58 |
| ogra | ajmitch, we can move a day | 12:58 |
| \sh | and if it's really important ... adhoc ;) | 12:58 |
| ogra | vote ? | 12:58 |
| dholbach | 2 weeks - just this time | 12:59 |
| dholbach | we're short before release | 12:59 |
| bddebian | Aye | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | 2 weeks | 12:59 |
| ogra | yup | 12:59 |
| dholbach | we can judge by the agenda | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | we need to get more in before the release | 12:59 |
| dholbach | so 22nd september, 12 utc? | 12:59 |
| ogra | yup | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | everyone has to pull at *least* 5 hours/day on ubuntu from now, ok? ;) | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: fine by me | 12:59 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:dholbach] : Agendas: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingAgendas | Calendar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 6 Sep 20:00 UTC: Tech Board | Sept 7 12:00 UTC : Edubuntu Update Meeting | 9 Sep 14:00 UTC: Doc Team | 12 Sep 19:00 UTC: Loco Teams Meeting | 13 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 22 Sep 12:00 UTC: MOTU | ||
| bddebian | ajmitch: #ubuntu? ;-) | 01:00 |
| ogra | ajmitch, <tired>ha ha ha</tired> | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: no, MOTU fixing | 01:00 |
| \sh | ajmitch: so I'm off for the next 3 days? ,-) | 01:00 |
| bddebian | hehe | 01:00 |
| bddebian | \sh: :-) | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | \sh: I said at least :) | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: you wake care of wiki/Calendar? | 01:00 |
| === bddebian has totally been slacking on NuN duties :-( | ||
| ajmitch | s/wake/take/ | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | so that's it - meeting over.. | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | shall I do the summary this time? | 01:01 |
| bddebian | Nobody answered my question about priorities! :-) | 01:01 |
| ogra | ajmitch, please :) | 01:01 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Yes, please Mr Agenda :-) | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | ok, will do | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | almost exactly an hour, well done :) | 01:01 |
| \sh | ok | 01:01 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: yes | 01:01 |
| dholbach | thanks guys | 01:02 |
| bddebian | \sh: See, I get no love :-) | 01:02 |
| dholbach | you ROCK :) | 01:02 |
| ogra | bddebian, fixing... but the less we have left the easier we can look for new stuff again | 01:02 |
| \sh | bddebian: you have to write in CAPITALS ;) sometimes ;) | 01:02 |
| === slomo hugs bddebian :) | ||
| sistpoty | btw. congrats to MOTU bddebian ;) | 01:02 |
| bddebian | ogra: fixing == obvious but do any take precedence over the others? | 01:02 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Thanks! | 01:02 |
| ogra | yeah, bddebian | 01:02 |
| ogra | bddebian, if we are in shape, play as you like ;) | 01:03 |
| dholbach | good night guys | 01:03 |
| bddebian | Later dholbach | 01:03 |
| dholbach | see you | 01:03 |
| \sh | g'night dholbach | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | bye dholbach | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | time for me to get back to work, will write up summary this afternoon :) | 01:03 |
| ogra | night dholbach | 01:03 |
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| dholbach | :) | 01:04 |
| bddebian | Thx ajmitch ! | 01:04 |
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| spear | hi | 07:41 |
| spear | wrong ubuntu channel | 07:41 |
| spear | bye ;) | 07:41 |
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