[12:02] <ajmitch> never too late
[12:02] <pef> midnight here :)
[12:02] <ogra> yup, kets start
[12:02] <ogra> lets even
[12:02] <\sh> ok..welcome gents
[12:02] <ogra> or cats ?
[12:03] <\sh> who wants to host?
[12:03] <ogra> ajmitch, wants to give a status about transitions it seems
[12:03] <ogra> :)
[12:03] <ogra> hehe
[12:04] <ogra> thats not written there :)
[12:04] <ajmitch> due to inconvenient meeting time :)
[12:04] <\sh> well...guys lets get a move on ;)
[12:04] <ogra> ok, where are we 
[12:04] <ogra> transition wise 
[12:04] <dholbach> hi
[12:05] <\sh> As I said http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/frozenapps.txt this is the list of the last pieces of cxx trans
[12:05] <ogra> so cxx list has still a lot empty spots it seems
[12:05] <\sh> a lot?
[12:05] <\sh> 5
[12:05] <dholbach> a lot?
[12:05] <ajmitch> libcrypto++ was something I looked it 
[12:05] <dholbach> i don't consider this to be much
[12:05] <ogra> on the wiki it has a lot
[12:05] <ajmitch> it was *evil*
[12:06] <dholbach> ogra: a lot pieces that WERE transitioned ;)
[12:06] <\sh> aehm....
[12:06] <ogra> so we should wipe the wiki, there is more then 5 empty rows
[12:06] <\sh> ogra: many of the gaps are kde stuff or libs which doesn't have to be
[12:06] <ajmitch> libcrypto++ can be synced from sid
[12:06] <dholbach> ogra: there are apps which just had to be rebuilt - those didnt have a note attached
[12:06] <dholbach> ajmitch: super
[12:06] <ajmitch> I'll write a nice email to elmo now
[12:07] <dholbach> the slang2 transition just links to the debian wiki site - i'm not quite sure how the status is around here
[12:07] <slomo> dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUSlang2Transition
[12:07] <ajmitch> the main thing we want is apps installable & usable
[12:07] <bddebian> Hey folks, sorry I'm late
[12:07] <slomo> dholbach: "done" except packages that need someone who has slang knowledge
[12:07] <ajmitch> lib transitions are just a required part of that
[12:07] <ajmitch> yay!! bddebian!
[12:07] <ogra> mplayer-k6 and noatun-plugins are shown as rdepends for slang1 still
[12:07] <dholbach> slomo: cool
[12:08] <ajmitch> bddebian: just in time to be volunteered for some work
[12:08] <slomo> ogra: mplayer-k6 doesn't exist anymore...
[12:08] <ogra> slomo, yup
[12:08] <bddebian> Uh oh, gotta run, the kids are screaming.. ;-)
[12:08] <slomo> ogra: i told elmo to remove it from the archives but he ignores me ;)
[12:08] <dholbach> slomo: a mail?
[12:08] <ogra> slomo, mail him
[12:08] <dholbach> UniverseUnmetDeps are not actually a transition, but they require some hands on them
[12:09] <slomo> ogra: i mailed him... also for some other stuff in that but i didn't get a answer yet... was 2 weeks ago
[12:09] <\sh> noatun-plugins is just a rebuild 
[12:09] <\sh> IMHO
[12:09] <dholbach> i guess after preview we'll get a full test rebuild of the archive and know a lot more, aggregated on one site
[12:09] <sistpoty> ghc6: still not rebuilt, so on hold
[12:09] <ogra> slomo, mail again ?
[12:09] <\sh> dholbach: speaking of unmet deps
[12:09] <ajmitch> sistpoty: rebuilt, but haddock FTBFS
[12:09] <ajmitch> sistpoty: not rebuilt in archive though
[12:09] <sistpoty> ajmitch: it is already?
[12:09] <sistpoty> ah, ok :)
[12:09] <slomo> ogra: sure... i've forgotten about slang transition until daniel mentioned it some minutes ago :)
[12:09] <\sh> I think I will raise my agenda point a bit higher
[12:09] <sistpoty> ajmitch: i saw a new haddock upload today
[12:10] <ajmitch> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ghc6 /
[12:10] <sistpoty> :)
[12:10] <ogra> slomo, just poke elmo again if you dont get an answer within a week
[12:10] <slomo> ogra: will do
[12:11] <ogra> unmet deps is the normal motu work....
[12:11] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition
[12:11] <ogra> i dont think we need to discuss it here
[12:11] <\sh> well we have to discuss 
[12:12] <ogra> \sh, unmet deps should be as empty as possible... there is nothing to discuss
[12:12] <bddebian> heh
[12:12] <\sh> yes...we have some packages with missing install-deps
[12:13] <ogra> \sh, if there is a license issue etc that prevent the deps from entering, just ignore them
[12:13] <\sh> like  kwiki, chinput,
[12:13] <ogra> so we still have a source package if users want to compile them on teir own
[12:14] <dholbach> it's like libdvdcss
[12:14] <dholbach> (although that's a  enhances:  )
[12:14] <\sh> but some are not even in debian
[12:14] <\sh> kwiki -> libkwiki-perl -> not in debian
[12:14] <ogra> probably from dholbach's lats apt-get.org import in hoary
[12:15] <ogra> last indeed
[12:15] <bddebian> hehe
[12:15] <dholbach> ogra: don't think so
[12:15] <ogra> hmm
[12:15] <dholbach> Maintainer: Nick Phillips <nwp@debian.org>
[12:15] <dholbach> but nevermind
[12:16] <ajmitch> heh, nwp
[12:16] <ogra> Origin: Debian/unstable
[12:16] <ogra> seems like a debian package
[12:16] <dholbach> those rare occasions where we have non-free depends we should just ignore them
[12:16] <\sh> which one?
[12:16] <ogra> it enetred through a autosync
[12:16] <dholbach> it was the same for j2re1.3 in debian for ages
[12:16] <dholbach> they just couldnt ship it
[12:16] <ogra> but we have 1.4  now;)
[12:17] <dholbach> well ...
[12:17] <\sh> ok we forget about them? or should we put some on morgue?
[12:17] <dholbach> just ignore those rare cases
[12:17] <ajmitch> ignore
[12:17] <ajmitch> we can't do everything
[12:17] <ogra> yup
[12:17] <\sh> ok
[12:17] <dholbach> only on morgue if something is obviously wrong and cant be fixed
[12:18] <bddebian> ajmitch: Sure YOU can ;-)
[12:18] <ajmitch> kwiki has RC bug in debian for this reason
[12:18] <ajmitch> bddebian: nopoe
[12:18] <dholbach> shall we proceed? or do we have transition items we need to discuss?
[12:18] <dholbach> ...other transition items...
[12:19] <\sh> i think we quite good in time 
[12:19] <\sh> so lets move
[12:19] <ajmitch> I think we're ok now..
[12:19] <ajmitch> ah, malone policies...
[12:19] <dholbach> super
[12:19] <bddebian> yeah
[12:19] <ajmitch> you may have seen bddebian attacking malone 
[12:19] <ogra> i think they a quite clear ?
[12:19] <ogra> (the statuses)
[12:19] <ajmitch> ogra: the page is what we wrote up after I put it on the agenda
[12:20] <ajmitch> things like leaving bugs assigned to MOTU, status->accepted when you're working on it
[12:20] <ogra> ajmitch, i didnt look at the page :)
[12:20] <ajmitch> I was looking for some suggestions and/or consensus on those things
[12:20] <ajmitch> ogra: there's still time :)
[12:20] <bddebian> ajmitch: Should they stay assigned to MOTU or assign them to ourselves?
[12:21] <ajmitch> bddebian: assign to MOTU, imho
[12:21] <ogra> ajmitch, but its nice :)
[12:21] <bddebian> ajmitch: I agree, just checking :-)
[12:21] <dholbach> yep, because we get the mails that way
[12:21] <ajmitch> dholbach: that's my sole reason
[12:21] <ajmitch> currently the watch subscription is next to useless
[12:21] <bddebian> You can add yourself as CC right?
[12:21] <ajmitch> so maybe CC: is useful
[12:21] <ogra> if you grab a bug you can reassign to you if you want to make sure nobody else does duplicate work
[12:22] <ajmitch> ogra: I suggested marking it as Accepted & writing in something in the status field
[12:22] <ajmitch> or a comment
[12:22] <ajmitch> but as you're still BugMaster.. :)
[12:22] <ogra> i'm fine with everything...
[12:22] <sistpoty> perhaps some words about non-universe bugs in malone?
[12:22] <ogra> and i dont know who gave me the bugmaster title :)
[12:23] <bddebian> sistpoty: Aye
[12:23] <ajmitch> ogra: we did
[12:23] <ogra> heh
[12:23] <ajmitch> and you became the bugzilla man
[12:23] <ogra> unintentional
[12:23] <ogra> :)
[12:23] <bddebian> traitor ;-)
[12:24] <sistpoty> ok, about non-universe bugs: bddebian and me had the idea to reject malone-bugs that are non-universe
[12:24] <ogra> bddebian, want the hob ? 
[12:24] <\sh> ok..I think this is settled..ajmitchs notes are quite good
[12:24] <ajmitch> \sh: not just mine, mainly bmonty's
[12:24] <dholbach> sistpoty: nope... i don't think that's a good thing
[12:24] <ogra> sistpoty, yup, but with a nice commentz
[12:24] <bddebian> hehe
[12:24] <\sh> sistpoty: yeah...bugzilla bugs != universe bugs are handled the same
[12:24] <dholbach> sistpoty: main will move to malone soon too
[12:25] <ogra> dholbach, why ? they are reported wrong
[12:25] <sistpoty> yep, that's what we found out later ;)
[12:25] <ajmitch> ogra: then they'd need to be filed in bugzilla
[12:25] <ajmitch> at least until the big transition
[12:25] <\sh> dholbach: I think we should have this split until they're importing all the stuff into malone
[12:25] <ogra> ajmitch, yes, so add a comment that tells the reporter to report them in the right place
[12:25] <dholbach> shushing the users from one place to another isn't very nice
[12:25] <sistpoty> so, what should the policy be? file in bugzilla and refer to in malone?
[12:26] <dholbach> \sh: there will be no import - at least that's what i heard
[12:26] <ogra> dholbach, nobody looks in malone for main bugs, they get losts
[12:26] <dholbach> ogra: the 'gnome' team's don't get lost
[12:26] <bddebian> I was copying them to bugzilla but not sure that is right either
[12:26] <\sh> dholbach: there must be one ;) 
[12:26] <ogra> so its better imho to notify the reporter
[12:26] <dholbach> \sh: there will be one
[12:26] <ogra> dholbach, there are a lot of non gnome main bugs
[12:26] <\sh> or we're importing those "wrong place" bugs into bugzilla
[12:26] <dholbach> ogra: of course
[12:27] <ogra> and its odd to lose them
[12:27] <dholbach> but just closing/rejecting seems wrong to me :)
[12:27] <ogra> so until malone is for main too, i'd propose to close them with a predefined note
[12:27] <\sh> dholbach: mdz is doing it as well with a comment: use malone on bugzilla
[12:27] <bddebian> Then go kick the main folks to look at them dholbach ;-)
[12:28] <dholbach> \sh: because bugzilla was never meant to track universe bugs
[12:28] <ogra> bddebian, they will eventually... but the current bugs will be lost then...
[12:28] <dholbach> \sh: but for malone it's a different case
[12:28] <\sh> dholbach: yes right...so another transition ;)
[12:29] <\sh> hmm..I just broke my 300 watt boxes
[12:29] <ajmitch> ok..
[12:29] <\sh> so whats best?
[12:29] <ajmitch> any agreement here? :)
[12:30] <ogra> vote ? 
[12:30] <ogra> who is for closing with nice comment ? 
[12:30] <ogra> +
[12:30] <ogra> ok, i'm the only one... 
[12:30] <\sh> +1 from me...and for important bugs I think we can handle a copy into bugzilla as well
[12:30] <sistpoty> hm... there was s.th. said on sep 5 in -motu... i just try to find it in the logs
[12:30] <dholbach> notifying a probable fixer seems best to me - like a possible kubuntu team for kde bugs
[12:31] <bddebian> Can someone define "soon" for moving main to malone?
[12:31] <ogra> bddebian, probably breezy release time
[12:31] <ogra> or short after
[12:31] <bddebian> Hmm
[12:32] <\sh> ok..we're going to preview time, so no bug should be lost, right?
[12:32] <ogra> yup
[12:32] <bddebian> BTW, what about Hoary bugs, main or not?
[12:32] <ogra> hmm
[12:33] <ogra> its a bit odd, i'd aks mdz, but he's building the preview next door
[12:34] <dholbach> we could take that to ubuntu-devel@
[12:34] <bddebian> If we need visibility of bugs prior to breezy release, I'd say move them to bugzilla and reject with comment pointing to bugzilla bug#
[12:34] <ajmitch> dholbach: good idea
[12:34] <\sh> 2 situations: 1. close the bug with commment + inserting bugtext etc. into bugzilla, or 2. creating a new bug in bugzilla and giving a link into malone to ubuntu bugzilla?
[12:34] <ogra> thats quite time consuming... to fiddle with two slow bugtrackers
[12:35] <\sh> ogra: bugzilla is quite fast regarding malone ,-)
[12:35] <ajmitch> ogra: yes, and there are a *lot* of bugs
[12:35] <dholbach> i think we should take the list of arguments to the mailing list and hear some other opinions - since it's them that receive those bug reports in the end
[12:35] <ogra> i would assume if the reporter thinks the bug is valuable, he/she will re-report it in bugzilla him/herself
[12:35] <\sh> ogra: good point
[12:35] <dholbach> but that's annoying
[12:36] <ogra> as well as its for bug triage if you have to copy all the bugs
[12:36] <dholbach> to figure out the internal processes of a distro to report a bug
[12:36] <dholbach> hrm
[12:36] <ogra> dholbach, they are told you in th comment... 
[12:37] <ogra> including a link to bugzilla
[12:37] <sistpoty> imo dholbach is right, if joe user reports a bug, he might be scared if he has to wonder about where he files bugs for main, universe... 
[12:37] <ogra> lest just set up a copy paste text with the right link
[12:37] <dholbach> who is for deferral and discussion on the mailing list?
[12:37] <dholbach> since it not just affects us
[12:38] <bddebian> probabably makes sense + from me
[12:38] <ajmitch> makes sense
[12:38] <ajmitch> I'd say that most of these main bugs are old/duplicates of ones in bugzilla
[12:39] <dholbach> and it'd raise more attention - by bug squashers, if we have it on the list ;)
[12:39] <ajmitch> yep
[12:39] <bddebian> I was searching bugzilla before copying them but if they were closed I wouldn't have seen it. :-(
[12:39] <\sh> anyways..we're close to main malone takeover ,-)
[12:39] <\sh> bddebian: advance search ;)
[12:39] <ajmitch> \sh: close, but malone still needs a lot of love
[12:40] <dholbach> shall we move on?
[12:40] <ajmitch> yes
[12:40] <ogra> ajmitch, i'm pretty sure sabdfl will move main to malone at the conference or shortly after
[12:40] <bddebian> \sh: :-)
[12:40] <\sh> ajmitch: agreed :) I like bugzilla as well ;) because everybody is using it....until final notice ;)
[12:40] <dholbach> ok
[12:40] <ajmitch> ogra: bradb said that he has most of november for working on searching
[12:40] <ogra> ajmitch, yup...
[12:40] <dholbach> next item on the agenda was?
[12:41] <ogra> bugday
[12:41] <ajmitch> more malone love!
[12:41] <\sh>  Malone Bug Love Day - shall we dedicate some time to bug triage & fixing before release? (AndrewMitchell)
[12:41] <bddebian> wheee
[12:41] <dholbach> ahhhh good one
[12:41] <ogra> probably someone would like to take over the job from me
[12:41] <ogra> my bugday work fell over the last weeks due to edubuntu
[12:41] <bddebian> ajmitch: That's because you ROCK d00d :-)
[12:41] <ajmitch> ogra: some of us have started on malone triage & fixing
[12:42] <\sh> ogra: Ithink we need more PR ,-)
[12:42] <ajmitch> ogra: I've closed a few bugs recently, but a concerted effort to squash bugs could be good :)
[12:42] <dholbach> we should get going with it - after preview release this might be interesting to get involved there
[12:42] <bddebian> ajmitch: Agreed.  I was just glancing over ones I thought could be easily fixed or rejected
[12:42] <ogra> ajmitch, i'm not talking about common triage
[12:42] <ajmitch> many thanks to dholbach for getting universe-bugs setup
[12:43] <ogra> i was talking about weekly bugdays
[12:43] <ajmitch> ogra: yep
[12:43] <ajmitch> #ubuntu-bugs is still open for that
[12:43] <ogra> yup
[12:43] <ajmitch> do we want to schedule something on the calendar?
[12:43] <ogra> but there is not much going on
[12:43] <ajmitch> ogra: no, dilys seems dead
[12:44] <ajmitch> but it's a good place for discussion of bugs
[12:44] <\sh> ogra: it must be a real community event
[12:44] <ogra> ajmitch, died today killed by a netsplit
[12:44] <ajmitch> someone needs to be BugMaster & pimp the bug day ;)
[12:44] <\sh> bddebian you have a blog?
[12:44] <ogra> \sh, thats what we wanted the bugdays to be
[12:44] <bddebian> \sh: Nah, my life is too boring I told ya :-)
[12:44] <\sh> ogra: yeah, but only the old farts are waiting ,-)
[12:44] <ogra> ajmitch, exactly...
[12:44] <ajmitch> ogra: dilys no longer reports new bugs in channel
[12:45] <ajmitch> who wants to be BugMaster? :)
[12:45] <\sh> bddebian: ok...you are the bugmaster...u spammed my inbox so you have to be punished ,->
[12:45] <dholbach> the team
[12:45] <ogra> ajmitch, i can make the announcements, but it costs me the whole workday to care for all the stuff
[12:45] <bddebian> Doh
[12:45] <ajmitch> ogra: ok, so we can do it - you need to get edubuntu perfect by release :)
[12:46] <bddebian> What's involved.  I'd be happy to do it but I have to watch my time.
[12:46] <ogra> ajmitch, it would already be helpful if people would hang out in #ubuntu-bugs and answer newbie bugfixer questions etc
[12:46] <ajmitch> schedule a day, people meetup in #ubuntu-bugs, advertise it
[12:46] <ajmitch> ogra: nobody really asks in there yet
[12:46] <ogra> ajmitch, it happened when i announced the bugdays regulary
[12:47] <ajmitch> ogra: ok
[12:47] <ogra> a while ago
[12:47] <ajmitch> 1 week from now?
[12:47] <dholbach> shall we collect ideas on a wikipage for it?
[12:47] <ogra> dholbach, we have one ;)
[12:47] <bddebian> ajmitch: Is that soon enough? :-)
[12:47] <ajmitch> dholbach: if you want, but I think it needs to be soon
[12:47] <ajmitch> bddebian: probably not
[12:47] <dholbach> oh ok
[12:47] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[12:47] <\sh> ogra: do we get some marketing things? I think we have to "kder" those guys
[12:48] <pef> bye !
[12:48] <ogra> at the bottom waits a bugday section for input since months
[12:48] <dholbach> \sh: lure :)
[12:48] <bddebian> Later pef
[12:48] <slomo> ajmitch++
[12:48] <\sh> dholbach: lure? sure? ,-)
[12:48] <ogra> \sh, kiko promised some to me to give away...
[12:48] <dholbach> slomo++
[12:49] <ajmitch> ogra: free stuff? :)
[12:49] <ogra> overnext saturday ? 
[12:49] <ajmitch> ogra: ok
[12:49] <bddebian> works for me but weekends are tough for me (kids)
[12:49] <ajmitch> date?
[12:49] <ajmitch> bddebian: that's ok
[12:49] <ogra> ajmitch, free stuff ??
[12:49] <ajmitch> bddebian: it's mainly getting people in & filing bugs
[12:49] <ajmitch> we can clean up later
[12:49] <dholbach> saturday
[12:49] <bddebian> OK
[12:49] <ajmitch> ogra: you said stuff to give away ;)
[12:49] <slomo> dholbach: why? i haven't said something usefu, i'm just for ajmitch's comment that it has to be on a weekend ;)
[12:49] <dholbach> slomo: :)
[12:50] <\sh> bddebian: you're such a funny man :) would you like to heat up the masses? :=
[12:50] <ogra> ajmitch, merchandise stuff for best bugfixer etc
[12:50] <bddebian> :-)
[12:50] <\sh> bddebian: I mean what I say...we need someone who is heating up 
[12:50] <ogra> slomo, dholbach too :)
[12:50] <bddebian> \sh: I try but I tend to annoy more than I make laugh :-)
[12:50] <ajmitch> ogra: are we in the running for that? ;)
[12:51] <ogra> ajmitch, i can talk to kiko
[12:51] <bddebian> Based on karma? :-)
[12:51] <\sh> bddebian: ask the others..;)
[12:52] <ajmitch> bddebian: there are people with >200K karma :)
[12:52] <bddebian> Doh, I gotta get moving then :-)
[12:52] <dholbach> ok... how do we go from here?
[12:52] <ajmitch> dholbach: fix stuff..
[12:52] <bddebian> ooh, I have 100 now
[12:52] <bddebian> Priorities?
[12:52] <ajmitch> dholbach: I'm surprised you didn't put apt-get.org on the agenda?
[12:52] <dholbach> announce it? and just go?
[12:52] <bddebian> transitions->unmetdeps->bugs or different?
[12:52] <ajmitch> dholbach: you still want people to get in & review stuff?
[12:52] <bddebian> ajmitch: Heh
[12:52] <ogra> dholbach, yes
[12:52] <ajmitch> dholbach: yes, please
[12:53] <dholbach> ajmitch: my head was spinning all day
[12:53] <ogra> we should probably hint to both, #ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuu-mot and #ubuntu-bugs
[12:53] <ogra> oops... my keyboard
[12:53] <bddebian> heh
[12:53] <slomo> lol
[12:53] <bddebian> ogra: It's not a Dell is it?
[12:53] <ogra> ubuntu-motu and ubuntu-bugs
[12:53] <ajmitch> ok
[12:53] <ogra> bddebian, acer
[12:53] <bddebian> ah
[12:54] <ajmitch> ogra: 10th or 17th?
[12:54] <\sh> lets give it a try
[12:54] <ogra> 17th
[12:54] <dholbach> 17th
[12:54] <ajmitch> k
[12:54] <dholbach> super
[12:54] <ogra> :)
[12:54] <dholbach> woohoo! :)
[12:54] <ogra> consensus, cool :)
[12:54] <ajmitch> we covered \sh's topic
[12:54] <ajmitch> meeting time!
[12:54] <ogra> yup
[12:54] <\sh> yeah
[12:55] <ogra> dholbach, make a offer, your topic
[12:55] <dholbach> a bit earlier than 24:00 in my timezone would be nice :)
[12:55] <ogra> 12:00 in your TZ ? :)
[12:55] <dholbach> dunno how fine that is for other folks
[12:55] <\sh> lunchtime during office days ;)
[12:55] <dholbach> 12:00 would be 10:00 utc
[12:56] <ogra> its + or - 12h
[12:56] <\sh> what about 12:00 UTC?
[12:56] <ajmitch> meeting started during work hours for me today
[12:56] <ogra> 12:00 UTC ?
[12:56] <ajmitch> 12:00 UTC is midnight, fine by me
[12:56] <\sh> ajmitch: what is 12:00 UTC?
[12:56] <ajmitch> midnight here.. :)
[12:56] <dholbach> hehe... :)
[12:56] <ogra> so we flip the TZ basically :)
[12:56] <\sh> ogra: it's 14:00 gmt+2
[12:56] <ajmitch> at least for a few more weeks
[12:57] <ogra> \sh, i know
[12:57] <\sh> we can do it in switch mode
[12:57] <dholbach> ok 10 utc? 12 utc?
[12:57] <ajmitch> ok, I switch to UTC+13 on 1st sunday of oct :)
[12:57] <\sh> 12:00 utc is fine
[12:57] <ogra> every second meeting 12 / 22 UTC ?
[12:57] <dholbach> 22nd september, 12 utc?
[12:57] <\sh> something like this
[12:57] <ajmitch> ogra: ok, meetings each 2 weeks still?
[12:58] <ogra> do we need each 2 weeks ? 
[12:58] <ajmitch> not really
[12:58] <ogra> recently we always had agenda items, so i guess yes
[12:58] <ajmitch> as we'd end up with a meeting on release day
[12:58] <\sh> 4 weeks is enough
[12:58] <ogra> ajmitch, we can move a day
[12:58] <\sh> and if it's really important ... adhoc ;)
[12:58] <ogra> vote ?
[12:59] <dholbach> 2 weeks - just this time
[12:59] <dholbach> we're short before release
[12:59] <bddebian> Aye
[12:59] <ajmitch> 2 weeks
[12:59] <ogra> yup
[12:59] <dholbach> we can judge by the agenda
[12:59] <ajmitch> we need to get more in before the release
[12:59] <dholbach> so 22nd september, 12 utc?
[12:59] <ogra> yup
[12:59] <ajmitch> everyone has to pull at *least* 5 hours/day on ubuntu from now, ok? ;)
[12:59] <ajmitch> dholbach: fine by me
[01:00] <bddebian> ajmitch: #ubuntu? ;-)
[01:00] <ogra> ajmitch, <tired>ha ha ha</tired>
[01:00] <ajmitch> bddebian: no, MOTU fixing
[01:00] <\sh> ajmitch: so I'm off for the next 3 days? ,-)
[01:00] <bddebian> hehe
[01:00] <bddebian> \sh: :-)
[01:00] <ajmitch> \sh: I said at least :)
[01:00] <ajmitch> dholbach: you wake care of wiki/Calendar?
[01:00] <ajmitch> s/wake/take/
[01:01] <ajmitch> so that's it - meeting over..
[01:01] <ajmitch> shall I do the summary this time?
[01:01] <bddebian> Nobody answered my question about priorities! :-)
[01:01] <ogra> ajmitch, please :)
[01:01] <bddebian> ajmitch: Yes, please Mr Agenda :-)
[01:01] <ajmitch> ok, will do
[01:01] <ajmitch> almost exactly an hour, well done :)
[01:01] <\sh> ok
[01:01] <dholbach> ajmitch: yes
[01:02] <dholbach> thanks guys
[01:02] <bddebian> \sh: See, I get no love :-)
[01:02] <dholbach> you ROCK :)
[01:02] <ogra> bddebian, fixing... but the less we have left the easier we can look for new stuff again
[01:02] <\sh> bddebian: you have to write in CAPITALS ;) sometimes ;)
[01:02] <sistpoty> btw. congrats to MOTU bddebian ;)
[01:02] <bddebian> ogra: fixing == obvious but do any take precedence over the others?
[01:02] <bddebian> sistpoty: Thanks!
[01:02] <ogra> yeah, bddebian 
[01:03] <ogra> bddebian, if we are in shape, play as you like ;) 
[01:03] <dholbach> good night guys
[01:03] <bddebian> Later dholbach 
[01:03] <dholbach> see you
[01:03] <\sh> g'night dholbach 
[01:03] <ajmitch> bye dholbach 
[01:03] <ajmitch> time for me to get back to work, will write up summary this afternoon :)
[01:03] <ogra> night dholbach 
[01:04] <dholbach> :)
[01:04] <bddebian> Thx ajmitch !
[07:41] <spear> hi
[07:41] <spear> wrong ubuntu channel
[07:41] <spear> bye ;)