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HrdwrBoBnone_-: thankyou for your constructive and useful unpit.12:00
samu2Seveas, where did it go then?12:00
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HrdwrBoBinput.12:00
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none_-you're welcome12:00
none_-kubuntu should be ubuntu12:00
tlogicnone_-, kde too12:00
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none_-you're out of your mind12:00
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Seveasnone_-, stop it12:01
Seveasthis is not the channel for gnome/kde wars12:01
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HrdwrBoBkubuntu is kubuntu, whinging about it isn't going to acheive anything12:01
none_-lol12:01
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samu2i should try apt-getting kubuntu-desktop on my desktop pc to try it out12:01
none_-samu2: don't do that12:01
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Inf3ctedFxThere is any website it show how to configure the Wireless card ??12:01
none_-try to iso image instead12:01
Seveasnone_-, nonsense12:01
HrdwrBoBnone_-: no, getting the package is fine12:02
samu2try to iso image?12:02
HrdwrBoBit's the same thing12:02
tlogicInf3ctedFx, tell me the model of your card12:02
brineboldcan anyone help me with installing mindless automaton?  I'm getting the mother of all error messages every time i try the make command after extracting the tar12:02
none_-uh huh.12:02
samu2Seveas, where did the mail notification thing go?12:02
Seveasusing the iso makes you download much more12:02
none_-not quite12:02
Seveasyes12:02
tlogicInf3ctedFx, also send me the output of lspci12:02
none_-well, that contradicts my experience12:02
Seveasthe iso image is about 600mb12:02
Inf3ctedFxtlogic:  I can't I'm on windows and I have to reboot to get to linux12:02
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Seveaswhat's needed to install kubuntu desktop on a regular ubuntu system is 138 mb12:02
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Inf3ctedFxok, let me write it donw then I'll come back12:03
HrdwrBoBnone_-: this is not random. we don't make this stuff up12:03
KornFlamezi want to install drivers for ati Radeon 9600-9700M ( Medion Aldi Laptop ) i allready looked here http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/readme0370.txt but it seems like so much work and very unintersting read ( i'm sorry ) any more happy penguin ways to install this?12:03
none_-but then you have gnome installed as well12:03
tlogicInf3ctedFx ok!12:03
HrdwrBoByes you do, he already has that installed12:03
BlueEagleseveas: Even if you've already apt-get kde?12:03
none_-that's what i am saying.12:03
Seveasnone_-, but he apparently already has that...12:03
HrdwrBoBand quite clearly state he wanted to TRY KDE12:03
SeveasBlueEagle, no12:03
Seveaswhat's needed to install kubuntu desktop *on a regular ubuntu system* is 138 mb12:03
emtrixare there any good repositories i can add, featuring libdvdcss and stuff?12:03
BlueEagleseveas: Ahh. :)12:03
HrdwrBoBin which case a destructive reinstall is a ridiculous idea12:03
Seveasemtrix, hoary-extras12:03
SeveasHrdwrBoB, indeed12:04
none_-ok, i agree with that12:04
none_-but if you happen to like it, install kubuntu via the iso image12:04
JonfCould anyone help me? when I try to install gDesklets I get the next error: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool12:05
Seveasnonsense12:05
HrdwrBoBin a monumental waste of time12:05
HrdwrBoBand possibly data loss12:05
none_-possibly?12:05
Seveasindeed12:05
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naliothJonf: you need a perl module XML::Parser12:05
samu2Ok, now maybe we can solve the mystery of the missing mail-notification thingy?12:05
naliothJonf: visit cpan.org12:05
SeveasJonf, install gdeskl;ets from the repository12:05
SeveasNOT manually12:05
Seveasnalioth, bad idea12:05
Seveasthe module is packaged of course :)12:05
HrdwrBoBnone_-: if you reinstall your opterating system it's a lot of stuffing around12:05
naliothSeveas: sorry, trying to be helpful12:06
reikiubotu tell reiki about sound12:06
none_-HrdwrBoB: how so?12:06
HrdwrBoB...12:06
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samu2w00t, i found it12:06
HrdwrBoBassuming you're not installing over the current install12:06
HrdwrBoByou would have to delete everything12:06
samu2it has a horrible piece of graphics editing on the setup screen12:06
none_-have to?12:07
HrdwrBoBand installing on top of an already working install achieves nothing except for making your system completely wacked12:07
none_-most people would backup their files before a new install12:07
samu2but backing up files is a pain in the ass12:07
HrdwrBoBexcept they already have their files12:08
HrdwrBoBAND a working operating system12:08
Seveasnone_-, it's stupid12:08
Seveasyou're thinking too windows12:08
HrdwrBoBit'12:08
HrdwrBoBit12:08
samu2i dont think we really need to discuss this anymore12:08
none_-i haven't use windows in 7 years12:08
HrdwrBoBit's like saying  - hey this car works, but what if I replaced the body with one exactly the same!12:08
mjrI don't really think none_- needs to discuss anymore12:08
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samu2does this mail notification thing work alongside evolution?12:08
brineboldcan anyone help me with installing mindless automaton from a tar archive?12:08
HrdwrBoBbrinebold: what is your problem exactly12:09
HrdwrBoBand what is mindless automaton12:09
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none_-HrdwrBoB: have you installed tried what you recommend? installing the meta package on top of the other one results in instability12:09
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CarlFKpitti - ksudo user-admin in a termianl - first time: enter pw, dialog closes, return to $ prompt.  try again - no dialog, get "er may not run gksudo on localhost" on term.  (sttdout/err)12:09
brinebolda huge error message is the result, ill send it to you in private12:09
HrdwrBoBnone_-: I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about12:10
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Seveasnone_-, that is absolute bullshit12:10
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none_-HrdwrBoB: nice try12:10
naliothbrinebold: use a pastebin or #flood so more folks can see12:10
pittiCarlFK: does "sudo user-admin" work?12:10
Seveasyou can perfectly fine have ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xfce4 enlightenment and whatnot installed at the same time12:10
brineboldmindless automaton is a Magic: the gathering tool like Apprentice in Windows12:10
none_-if you say so12:11
HrdwrBoBwe know so12:11
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none_-really, how?12:11
Seveasbecause it's running fine on ~30 machines here...12:11
CarlFKpitti - oh crap.  i forgot that my user isn't in suduers yet.  damm preseed install.  I keep meaning to fix that...12:11
HrdwrBoBoooh... years of experience and in depth knoewledge of the way the system functions as a whole12:11
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samu2is anybody using this mail-notification thing?12:11
none_-uh huh12:12
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naliothsamu2: i would use it, if it worked with gmail12:12
codecainesomeone in here tell me how to retrieve info about a user, im doing adduser to add users and i want to view the info on that user i just entered in after.12:12
CarlFKpitti - so yes, sudo works as expected.  look like gksudo is dropping some chars or something and not reporting problems quite right12:12
pittiCarlFK: ah, ok :-) well, then your bug report should be that gksudo doesn't print a meaningful error message12:12
Seveasnalioth, recompile it with ssl support ;(12:12
Seveas;)12:12
SPERMITEwill i have to install this from source : kingpin-1.20-x86.run ?12:12
Seveas  Mail Notification features include:12:12
Seveas   * mbox, MH, Maildir, Sylpheed, POP3, IMAP and Gmail support12:12
pittiCarlFK: right; bug report appreciated :-) against gksudo12:12
Seveasthat's what apt-cache show gives12:12
trevor3307Can anyone help me with samba??12:12
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/settingupsamba12:13
CarlFKpitti - glad we met in devle or this wouldhave been one misleading bugzilla.  (may want to get m to reconsider where bug reports are discussed)12:13
slepttrevor3307, sth special ?12:13
trevor3307seveas: ive dont that12:13
samu2ok, just to make none_- really happy im now gonna gonna plug the network cable over to my desktop pc and apt-get kubuntu-desktop12:13
codecaineSeveas, how do i retrieve info on a user, for instance after i create a user with adduser i want to see that info i just entered for the user.12:13
Seveastrevor3307, ok, what's the problem then?12:13
trevor3307i just want to be able to view my ubuntu box from my windows network on my xp machine...12:13
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Seveascodecaine, finger user12:13
pittiCarlFK: oh, discussing and reassigning in bz is fine, too12:13
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tlogictrevor3307, why dont you try VNC ?12:14
Inf3ctedFxok I'm back =)12:14
erUSULcodecaine, finger ?12:14
tlogicInf3ctedFx nice :)12:14
CarlFKpitti - it has in the past, but I just got shooed out ;)12:14
Inf3ctedFxtlogic:  look this is the name of the card:12:14
pittiCarlFK: in general, I consider a small message "Can someone please help me with a bug in #u" on #u-d just fine12:14
trevor3307im a huge noob...is VNC easy to setup?12:14
Inf3ctedFxBroadcom Corporation12:14
CarlFKer.. in bz?12:14
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Inf3ctedFxBCM4306 802.11b/g12:14
none_-trevor3307: no12:14
CarlFKpitti - got it12:14
trevor3307thanks...i will try it12:15
codecaineerUSUL, yes that works but it doesn't show the Other[]  info part i put in12:15
pittiCarlFK: bz = bugzilla, sorry12:15
slepttrevor3307, samba if as easy as possible12:15
codecainefor the username12:15
tlogicInf3ctedFx thsi is not good.... hmm let me check something one minute12:15
Inf3ctedFxok12:15
trevor3307i got samba setup...but i can't see my ubuntu box from my windows network..12:15
Seveastransgress, yes vnc is easy12:15
Inf3ctedFxis a linksys card12:15
CarlFKpitti - i try to keep my interaction with bz to a minimum12:15
Seveastrevor3307, yes vnc is easy12:15
trevor3307ok12:15
Seveasnone_-, please stop being an idiot12:15
none_-excuse me?12:16
slepttrevor3307,is the  workgroup right ?12:16
CarlFKpitti - maybe somone should make #u-bz12:16
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CarlFKpitti - for Brazil ;)12:16
none_-"no" is an answer to a question12:16
erUSULcat /etc/passwd | grep <user>12:16
ChadzaWhat is the easiest way to make an iso from a dvd?12:16
trevor3307slept. yes..workgroup is MSHOME12:16
slepttrevor3307, do  smbtree on linux12:16
Seveasnone_-, but a completely useless and in this case wrong answer12:16
pittiCarlFK: wouldn't help, a person can only read a limited number of channels12:16
CarlFKpitti - goo dpoint12:17
slepttrevor3307, you'll see all about your shares12:17
codecaineerUSUL, yes that works12:17
codecainethx12:17
CarlFKChadza- guessing a DVD movie?12:17
darkhearttrevor3307 If you got samba working, VNC shouldn't be a problem.12:17
none_-how is it completely wrong12:17
ChadzaUT2k4 dvd.12:17
trevor3307well..i think i have samba working...12:17
naliothChadza: use k3b, gnomebaker or graveman12:17
ChadzaWhich I'm having problems with the install.12:17
Seveasbecause VNC is extremely easy to setup on Ubuntu12:17
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ChadzaNot recognizing the cd being in.12:17
trevor3307i can see my windows pc from ubuntu...but not vice-versa...12:17
none_-i guess we'll see12:17
erUSULcodecaine, you're wellcome12:17
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ChadzaSo I'm going to make an image and mount that.12:18
ChadzaHopefully.12:18
darkhearttrevor3307 Well, I'll sum up the steps, apt-get the package, run vncserver, enter a password. now you have VNC running and can connect.12:18
HergiswiI installed WINE from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't right click stuff and run it with WINE12:18
darkhearttrevor3307 Just so you know, if you want to connect to the active desktop, you don't need to install VNC.12:18
trevor3307do i need to install VNC on windows?12:18
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trevor3307ok...12:18
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slepttrevor3307, did you configure your server and the restart it12:18
darkhearttrevor3307 You need a vnc viewer to connect to the host running the vnc server.12:18
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trevor3307i configured it and i restarted ubunutu...12:19
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mvoCarlFK: feel free to assign the gksudo bug to me12:19
slepttrevor3307, what does smbtree give you12:19
trevor3307lemme try it12:19
darkhearttrevor3307 Restarted Ubuntu? Most config changes don't need a reboot.12:19
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CarlFKmvo - k12:19
naliothSeveas: my eels are missing12:20
trevor3307well..samba restart wouldnt work..12:20
sleptit does12:20
erUSULChadza, dd if=/dev/<dvd> of=image.iso i think that even cat can do the trick cat /dev/<dvd> > image.iso12:20
slepttrevor3307, /etc/init.d/samba restart12:20
trevor3307slept, smbtree shows me my two xp machines on my network..12:20
darkhearttrevor3307 Sorry, didn't know you were talking about that. Anyway, I'll let you work on your smb stuff.12:20
emtrixcan anyone point me to a guide/howto of how to configure debsplash in ubuntu?.. searched all over, can't find anything useful :-P12:20
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slepttrevor3307, and your linux system ?12:20
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trevor3307no..12:21
HrdwrBoBemtrix: chill until breezy comes out :)12:21
ubuntuguyanyone: If you know how to fix this please inform me. I'm trying to run Java GUI applications and I'm getting this bug: http://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2005/08/msg00143.html12:21
brineboldsorry about that12:21
CarlFKmvo - what happend to the "assign to" option? I just see "package gnome-system-tools"12:21
brineboldanyway, who was trying to help me with the mindless automaton install?12:21
slepttrevor3307, did you do  testparm12:22
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brineboldme?12:22
trevor3307slept, yes12:22
CarlFKmvo - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1492212:22
naliothbrinebold: paste whatever you have to show us, and send us the link12:22
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slepttrevor3307, restart samba12:22
CarlFKmvo - I gotta run. thanks for the support support12:22
trevor3307i tried to restart it...i says "no such file or directy was found"12:23
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slepttrevor3307,  /etc/init.d/samba ?12:24
Lunar_Lampok, i'm sorry to have to ask this - but is there a guide anywhere that someone could link me to showing me how to connect my ubuntu laptop to my router so i can hook it up to the net?12:24
trevor3307slept: no such file or direct found...again12:24
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brineboldhttp://mindless.sourceforge.net/   is the location of the program12:24
naliothmissing eels, missing mimes, what's next?12:24
brineboldmindless.c:938: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_window_set_default_size'12:24
brineboldmindless.c:938: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_WINDOW'12:24
brineboldmindless.c:939: error: invalid type argument of `->'12:24
brineboldmindless.c:940: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_paned_set_position'12:24
brineboldmindless.c:940: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_PANED'12:24
brineboldmindless.c: At top level:12:24
brineboldgame.h:62: warning: array `target_table' assumed to have one element12:24
brineboldmindless.c:344: warning: `add_tools' defined but not used12:24
brineboldmindless.c:410: warning: `add_drop_tools' defined but not used12:24
brineboldmindless.c:435: warning: `chdir_of_file' defined but not used12:24
brineboldmindless.c:883: warning: `do_view_card' defined but not used12:25
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darkheartbrinebold Paste somewhere else.12:25
brineboldmindless.c:889: warning: `entry_box_key_pressed' defined but not used12:25
brineboldmindless.c:932: warning: `set_main_window_size' defined but not used12:25
brineboldmake: *** [mindless.o]  Error 112:25
darkheartbrinebold Like #flood or pastebin12:25
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windexoi.12:25
naliothbrinebold: do not do that again in here12:25
Seveasi'm gone for 5 seconds and some STUPID IDIOT starts pasting12:25
eva-02can anyone walk me through installing quake3 on ubuntu? :o12:25
arentieI have an error when updating to the latest linux kernel via Synaptic12:25
slepttrevor3307, dpkg --get-selections |grep samba12:25
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slepttrevor3307, you might be missing a server12:25
eva-02ive got my retail cd mounted, downloaded the linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run file12:26
arentieIs anyone available to help?  I have a relatively simple question based on the error that I receive12:26
samu2when i tried to apt-get kubuntu-desktop it started asking me for my CD. cant i just get everything by http?12:26
trevor3307slept: it says samba common is installed12:26
Seveassamu2, yes you can12:26
Seveassamu2, delete the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list12:26
trevor3307and python 2.4 samba is also installed12:26
slepttrevor3307, so you don't have a server12:26
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samu2Seveas, ah right. thanks.12:26
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slepttrevor3307, you need to install samba and configure it12:27
Lunar_Lampok, i'm sorry to have to ask this - but is there a guide anywhere that someone could link me to showing me how to connect my ubuntu laptop to my router so i can hook it up to the net?12:27
trevor3307ok...well i will go install it again...thanks for the help12:27
arentieI have the error pasted at: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/199812:27
samu2lets try this xfce4 thing while im at it12:27
SeveasLunar_Lamp, wiki.ubuntu.com/wifihowto12:27
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sorush20how do I fix errors on grub12:28
windexLunar_Lamp, if you aren't using wifi, you can still do it, but need a network cable12:28
slepttrevor3307, you can use swat if you like to do via gui12:28
trevor3307swat?12:28
Lunar_Lampthat page does not exist yet...12:28
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slepttrevor3307, localhost:903 I think12:28
Lunar_LampThis page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.12:28
erUSULsorush20, what kind of errors?12:28
SeveasLunar_Lamp, It's WifiHowto12:28
Seveasor another similar name12:28
Seveasit'll be listed on the errorpage12:28
slepttrevor3307, package you have to install12:28
slepttrevor3307, apt-cache search samba server12:29
Lunar_Lampah - Seveas - it's case sensitive - WiFiHowTo12:29
gazamhey, could someone help me with building gnomad2 from source?12:29
trevor3307thanks12:29
Lunar_Lamp(WiFiHowto even)12:29
erUSULgazam, install the package12:30
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slepttrevor3307, you'll have to add a user with smbpasswd -a username or allow anonymus login12:30
benplautHow do i edit the icons on gnome-splash?12:30
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gazamerUSUL, the package in the repo is out of date, by a long time12:31
ubuntuguyis anyone else having problems running Java GUI programs?12:31
reikihas anyone gotten Thunderbird to retrieve mail from local mail folders without having to run a local imap server?12:31
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mjrubuntuguy, gcj/gij isn't really ready for prime-time in running java gui programs written with awt/swing (though swt should work)12:32
medgnohow usable is breezy right now?12:32
benplautvery usable12:32
benplautbut i'm not allowed to say that :P12:32
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Seveasmedgno, it works for some, for others it does not12:32
medgnoso if I've run debian sid for around a year, I wouldn't have problems with the breakage, most likely?12:32
samu2ill wait until they say its stable12:33
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ubuntuguymjr, thanks for the info. I guess its being worked on?12:33
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dooglusthere are still lots of changes being made.12:33
mjrubuntuguy, it is12:33
benplautmedgno, you would probably be OK12:33
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fizzleubotu, tell fizzle what fluxbox is12:33
codecainei have no lucky with breezy still12:34
fizzleubotu: tell fizzle what fluxbox is12:34
medgnobenplaut, thanks12:34
ubuntuguyThat will be nice to have.12:34
Seveasfizzle, that won't work...12:34
fizzleSeveas, im havinfg trouble with fluxbox12:34
benplaut!fizzle12:34
ubotubenplaut: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:34
fizzlegoing really slow12:34
benplautoops12:34
benplaut!fluxbox12:34
ubotuI don't know, benplaut12:34
fizzleand locking up :(12:34
netdurwill be the there ubuntu preview release today?12:34
naliothfizzle you can /msg ubotu <factoid> to have it tell you whatever12:34
Seveasnetdur, no, it will be in about a week12:35
ubuntuguymjr, I'm learning python now. WIll python GUI programs work?12:35
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fizzleanyone here use fluxbox12:35
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arentiecan i delete /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'12:38
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Seveasarentie, why would you?12:38
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arentieSeveas, because I receive the error located at: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/199812:39
Concord_DawnHi, I'm in a bit of a tricky situation. My friend's computer runs Windows, and Windows now won't boot. I inserted the Ubuntu Live CD, but I want to get a bunch of files off his Windows partition. Is it safe for me to take the LiveCD out and burn the contents to a blank CD?12:39
bored2kHow do I register a protocol in epiphany/firefox?? (lastfm://)12:39
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samu2nalioth, i can confirm the mail notification thing supporst gmail12:39
naliothsamu2: great! i'm tryin to get mine workin12:40
Seveasarentie, why did you install a third-party deb for ndiswrapper?12:40
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Seveasuninstall the ndiswrapper-modules package12:40
medgnoConcord_Dawn, probably not. If you have a usb key drive, that would be a lot safer12:40
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esacI installed linux on a partition. I have another partition of the same size that is empty. Can I just dd my currently installed linux OS onto the other partition, and then modify grub to boot into it, or is that not possible ?12:40
Concord_Dawnmedgno, herm......I don't have one that's formatted to anything Linux writable12:40
erUSULConcord_Dawn, i don't think so12:40
arentieSeveas, when I was a "newer newbie" not knowing what I know now, I downloaded it to try it12:40
erUSULknoppix is better suited as a rescue disk12:41
Concord_Dawnherm.12:41
Wipswhere is the ubuntu guide?12:41
Concord_Dawndoes knoppix write to NTFS safely?12:41
arentieSeveas, I tried to trying to get my wifi to work with ubuntu12:41
medgnoooh, with knoppix, if you have around a gig of ram or so, the 'toram' parameter should load it all into ram, freeing up the cd drive12:41
Seveasuninstall the ndiswrapper-modules package12:41
cafuego_Concord_Dawn: Only Windows does.12:41
medgnoIIRC, that was a while ago I heard it, though12:42
Concord_Dawnmedgno, I'm limited to 256, 512 if I put in the ram in this computer.12:42
arentieSeveas, will it mess up my network connection?12:42
Seveasyes12:42
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Seveasif you use ndiswrapper12:42
ompaulConcord_Dawn, what you want to do is burn from the live CD to a burner12:42
Concord_Dawnwill I be able to do that with Ubuntu Live?12:42
arentieI do use ndiswrapper12:42
Seveaswell actuall, it won't mess up the connection12:42
omp342how can i find out my internal ip address? (like ipconfig in windows)12:42
Concord_Dawnompaul, I want to get stuff off the drive12:42
ompaulConcord_Dawn, if you have two CD Drives and one of them is a burner12:42
erUSULConcord_Dawn, i think it uses captive ntfs driver which can write safely12:42
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cevizoglubah, after installing ubuntu-desktop, xserver still can't boot... guess I'll go back to hoary12:42
Seveasjust make sure to immediately install the restricted-modules thing12:42
Concord_Dawnompaul, I don't have 2 drives, it's a laptop.12:43
arentieOk12:43
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ompaulConcord_Dawn, got a second machine on the network?12:43
Concord_Dawnhmmmmmmmm12:43
naliothConcord_Dawn: knoppix has the captiveNTFS thing, but think about this: if it screws up, where will your NTFS data be?12:43
Concord_DawnI know12:43
Concord_DawnI might just install Ubuntu12:44
Concord_Dawnon his extra partition.12:44
ompaulConcord_Dawn, that is not a risk you should take lightly - try to send it off over the wire12:44
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ompaulConcord_Dawn, do it12:44
Concord_Dawnnah12:44
Concord_DawnI have a network.12:44
Concord_DawnI can plug it in12:44
Concord_Dawnhow would I set his computer up so I can reach into the drive and read everything off?12:44
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Concord_DawnHe's with me right now, so it will be on LAN12:45
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ompaulfire up a live CD and then use ftp or sftp to some other box12:45
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Concord_Dawnherm.12:45
Concord_Dawnany other way I could do it?12:45
Concord_Dawndon't wanna install an FTPd.12:45
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ompaulConcord_Dawn, lots of ways, floppies, usbsticks12:45
medgnoConcord_Dawn, ssh wouldn't be a risky thing to install12:46
Concord_Dawnwithout externals.12:46
Concord_Dawnmedgno, I have it installed12:46
Concord_DawnWIN :)12:46
ompaulConcord_Dawn, ssh gives sftp12:46
erUSULConcord_Dawn, maybe whith nc (network cat)12:46
ompaulno server12:46
medgnothen you can send the files over that. In the nautilus 'Connect to Server' dialog, use the "ssh" option, and it should work12:46
Concord_Dawnhmm....12:47
Concord_Dawndone.12:47
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Concord_Dawncan i install a package with the LiveCD?12:47
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_SWAT_anyone here got experience with running X windows over SSH?12:48
cafuego__SWAT_: Yes, it's easy.12:48
cafuego__SWAT_: make sure the ssh servers allow X11Forwarding12:48
cafuego__SWAT_: Then ssh -C -X remotehost; run your X app.12:48
cavediver2Hi guys. I did a fresh install of ubuntu, only changed the kernel dfromi386 to 686. Now I want to install nvidia-glx, but it want to reinstall 386 kernel. I don't want that but rather run it on my current 686 kernel. Anyone have an idea?12:49
_SWAT_cafuego, well, my 'client' is a Windows PC. But I found a program for that.12:49
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_SWAT_cafuego_, well, my 'client' is a Windows PC. But I found a program for that.12:49
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cafuego__SWAT_: You'll need X on that PC.12:49
cafuego_either cygwin or something else...12:49
arentieSeveas, thank you for the help...my problem was solved...you're a master!12:49
_SWAT_cafuego_, I found a "or something" :D12:50
samu2w00t, amarok seems much better than rhythm box12:50
Concord_DawnCan I install an SSHd while running LiveCD?12:50
_SWAT_how can I check if SSH on Ubuntu supports forwarding?12:50
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cafuego__SWAT_: What as long as that listens for incoming connections and the ssh client can do forwarding, you're fine.12:50
samu2perhaps a bit slower, though12:50
Seveas_SWAT_, it does.12:50
cafuego__SWAT_: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config12:50
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medgnoConcord_Dawn, possibly. You should be able to upload via ssh (have his computer do the 'connect to server' thing, connecting to your desktop)12:50
Concord_Dawnhmm12:51
Concord_Dawnok12:51
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_SWAT_cafuego_, my problem: what's the first command you need to run? (on the client, because doing something like "emelfm" doesn't work)12:52
brinebold2brinebold here: I apologize for the error message paste earlier though I believe Seveas probably could've been slightly more polite than calling me an STUPID IDIOT and muting (I'm assuming the mute was yours also, though I may be mistaken) me.  Anyway, the full error message is now posted here  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1999  with information on the cause appended to the bottom of the page.12:52
naliothsamu2: care to share re the mail-notification?12:52
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naliothbrinebold2: dont feel bad, Seveas calls everyone names who floods12:53
samu2nalioth, eh, it ended up in my internet folder in the start menu and from there you can add accounts12:53
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samu2hmm, i think amarok crashed already12:54
naliothsamu2: does it run in the panel?12:54
_SWAT_cafuego_, my problem: what's the first command you need to run? (on the client, because doing something like "emelfm" or "startkde" don't work)12:54
Seveasonly if the are stupid enough to not realise that flooding is bad and that flooding an entire screen is worse. Especially since it's mentioned in the topic.12:54
samu2nope, it shows up in the tray when it has something to report12:54
naliothsamu2: ok thanks12:54
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brinebold2Seveas, the topic is too long to fit in the topic line of my gaim client.  It gets to "Do NOT p" and is cut off.  I guess thats what I get for running at 640*480 resolution tho.12:57
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naliothbrinebold2: you can always type /topic into your client12:58
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paolo_ciao12:58
anomalyhrmm.. do I or do I not want to get my hands dirty learning C++.. love C, but running out of money to get more books. but found lots of material online.12:59
anomalyheh :)12:59
HergiswiI installed WINE from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't right click stuff and run it with WINE01:00
Hergiswican anyone help?01:00
Concord_DawnHergiswi, you have to use custom command?01:00
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HergiswiI do?01:00
Hergiswiwhy? o_O01:00
Seveasbrinebold2, then use a decent irc client01:00
Concord_Dawnbecause01:00
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Concord_Dawnit's the way it is.01:00
HergiswiOn Warty I could right click stuff01:00
Seveasand not pasting in public channels is simply netiquette01:01
codecainecan someone tell me what the "." represents in bash programming for instance:     . "${WINGHOME}/run-wing.sh"01:01
windexthis line has been pasted.01:01
sorush20guys I'm in ubuntu live and I want to be able to mount my harddisk... what do I type... I have Ubuntu installed on the hda but I have been getting Grub error 15 so I need to get the menu.lst file form the /boot/grub directory on my hdd can someone help01:01
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Seveascodecaine, it means that the file "${WINGHOME}/run-wing.sh" will be sourced01:01
Seveasie all commands in it will be run01:02
naliothsorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:02
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codecaineSeveas, so without the . and i just called it straight out it would be invalid?01:02
codecaineis it that way because of how it starts with a variable?01:02
sorush20nalioth i only have a Ubuntu installe do the computer..01:02
erUSULsorush20, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda<x> /mnt/<whatever>01:03
Seveascodecaine, sourcing means executing in the current context01:03
Seveas(well actually not even executing)01:03
naliothsorush20: the techniques in the URL will answer your question01:03
Seveasits like #include in C01:03
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codecaineSeveas, still not completely understanding sorry, you know of article to read on it?01:04
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Quinthiuswhat's the best way to change the default keymap used in the console?01:04
abitavengerhello01:04
naliothQuinthius: system > prefs > keyboard *01:04
Seveascodecaine, read a bash tutorial on tldp.org :)01:04
ChadzaPssh.01:04
Quinthiusnalioth: in the console...01:04
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abitavengerwhere can i get a mp3 plugin for totem?01:05
DeathOnJuicehello01:05
DeathOnJuicebye01:05
Seveas!mp301:05
ubotump3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:05
Quinthiusnalioth: that only changes thekeymap X/gnome uses01:05
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naliothQuinthius: not sure then01:05
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abitavengerany tips on how to install the plugins?01:06
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rifficis the preview release happening today ?01:06
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nalioth!tell abitavenger about restricted01:07
erUSULabitavenger, gstreamer-plugins01:07
erUSULabitavenger, gstreamer-mad01:07
boxerboyhi everyone is anyone up to answering a stupid question?01:07
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erUSULboxerboy, no ;)01:07
f||bberAnyone know how to get NDiswrapper to load at boot, I followed this (twice) still no luck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192601:07
naliothboxerboy: only if it's REALLY stupid01:08
Quinthiusboxerboy: stupid questions only get stupid answers01:08
boxerboylol01:08
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boxerboyhow do i burn torret to disk?01:08
boxerboy^^^ stupid01:08
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f||bberboxerboy, the .torrent file ;-)01:08
brinebold2isnt the actual file01:08
Seveasboxerboy, .torrent files are only specifying what to download...01:08
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f||bberexactly!01:08
boxerboyi have the files but they are on desktop i didnt download them is that good bad or stupid?01:09
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f||bberboxerboy, what did you download?01:09
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boxerboymandriva200501:09
naliothboxerboy: torrent files do nothing w/o a torrent client01:09
boxerboyim on breezy now01:09
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naliothboxerboy: so burn the mandriva iso to disk01:09
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boxerboyso i have to find iso for it01:10
omp342in bittorrent clients, i get connection refused errors when trying to connect to trackers :(01:10
f||bberboxerboy, K3B or Gnomebaker it01:10
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boxerboyk3b i have that01:10
f||bberomp342, firewall?01:10
omp342f||bber: i have a router, but it worked fine in gentoo and windows01:10
Quinthiusboxerboy: you need to first open up the torrent file with a bt client. ubuntu comes with one, try double clicking on the torrent and ti should start downloading the iso...01:11
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ksmurfanyone know why transperency in breezy gDesklets isn't working?01:11
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f||bberyou edited iptable/ using guarddog/firestarter ??01:11
boxerboyok than burn it to cd after they download?01:11
Quinthiusboxerboy: yeah01:11
boxerboyok01:11
Quinthiusboxerboy: you burn the iso, not the torrent01:11
boxerboyi have breezy but i havent played with traspancy yet01:12
Quinthiusboxerboy: the torrent is just for downloading the iso01:12
omp342np[e01:12
omp342nope01:12
eva-02any ideas why my resolution wont go back to normal after quitting q3 arena? :o01:12
boxerboythey were cd torrents are they still iso versions?01:12
bimberiQuinthius: have a look at these commands - loadkeys, setkeycodes, dumpkeys (I don't know anything more but hopefully that's the hint you need :) )01:12
naliothheh heh StarBand Is NOT Currently Right For...   Extensive peer-to-peer (P2P) filesharing use01:12
medgnoeva-02, press ALT+F2, type in xrandr -s0    and press enter01:12
Quinthiusboxerboy: maybe, maybe not. might be bin/cue or whatever. but it should be some cd format that you burn...01:13
brinebold2yeah, most people would find it odd that a 700MB ISO downloaded in a few seconds....01:13
f||bberomp342, I had to ALLOW torrent earlier, i used firestarte and just allow the service, you should see it block01:13
eva-02medgno: nothing :(01:13
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imterrohey guys01:13
vern401hello01:13
omp342f||bber: okay i'll try that. thanks01:13
imterroummm how do i su01:13
imterro?01:14
boxerboyok so in k3b just set it to burn cd format and good to go i hope01:14
eva-02the resolution is correct, but the screen is stuck small and scrolls now01:14
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eva-02instead of displaying everything01:14
Quinthiusbimberi: well i know about loadkeys but i was more wandering where to change the default keymap used by the bootup scripts01:14
imterroor more importantly, how do i set my su pw01:14
bimberiQuinthius: ah, k01:14
f||bberCan anyone one help with my NDiswrapper boot proble ^^^ ?01:14
medgnoeva-02, well that's annoying. hrm. If you go System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution (in gnome) does it give you the option to change your resolution back to normal?01:14
chavoimterro, use sudo and your password01:14
omp342imterro, you can do 'sudo command here' to do the command as root01:15
abitavengerwhat if i don't have gstreamer-mad?01:15
eva-02nope, it displays as 1280x960 there01:15
eva-02although01:15
omp342imterro, or you can do 'sudo su' so you won't have to keep tying sudo before each command01:15
eva-02if i change the res, then say i dont want to keep it01:15
eva-02it flickers back to correct size01:15
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medgnoweird01:15
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medgnoI'm not sure what to do then. Sorry. :(01:16
imterroso i just type sudo and it gives me root access?01:16
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sikorhi01:16
erUSULabitavenger, gstreamer0.8-mad01:17
imterro?01:17
bimberiimterro: sudo <command> runs the command with root privs01:17
bimberiimterro: sudo -i will give you a root login shell01:17
firefly2442how do I get NFS to show up under rpcinfo -p  ?01:17
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erUSULimterro, yiu type sudo and you *do* something as root01:17
abitavengererUSUL,  i dont have that01:18
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abitavengererUSUL,  in the synaptic package manager, its not in there01:18
Quinthiusbimberi: aha, figured it out: dpkg-reconfigure console-data01:18
erUSULabitavenger, have you got multiverse in your sources?01:18
bimberiQuinthius: ah, thanks for the feedback, something else for the personal knowledgebase :)01:19
Quinthiushehe01:19
erUSULabitavenger, have you got universe in your sources?01:19
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abitavengeri'm not sure01:19
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imterroerUSUL, so any user can use root then/01:19
JonfCould anyone tell me why I cant create a folder neather unzip files under the Share folder?01:19
glennany backport site for rrdtool 1.2 for hoary?01:19
f||bberis there a wireless monitor type app that you can set to come up on boot? etc Wifi manager?01:19
abitavengerwhere do i get multiverse? repositories? and then get all the "updates"01:20
omp342f||bber: i don't see it blocking anything in firestarter :/01:20
f||bberomp342, 1 sec go to the third tab what is it?01:20
abitavengeri may have figured it out, hold on a second erUSUL01:20
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omp342Allow connections from hosts: 192.168.0.10101:21
bimberiimterro: no, the user created during the install has access to sudo, other new users don't get it by default01:21
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imterroahhhh01:21
omp342and allow service is blank01:21
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h08817how do i reset my mbr back to windows?01:21
imterrobimberi, so i can set a root?01:21
f||bberomp342, go to policy tab01:22
h08817i should restart with boot disk but then what?01:22
omp342i am in policy tab01:22
f||bberomp342, Write click in allow service01:22
bimberiimterro: sure, if you must, you can "sudo passwd" to set the password01:22
abitavengerh08817,  insert your windows cd, go to repair section thing where you have a command prompt, and type format mbr01:22
omp342ok01:22
f||bberomp342, Add a rule and choose bittorrent as the service01:22
omp342and i clicked add rule01:22
omp342ok01:22
imterrobimberi, so if i do that, then i cant use sudo anymore?01:22
h08817abitavenger: its for 9801:22
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bimberiimterro: no, sudo will still work :)01:23
imterronice01:23
abitavengerhmm01:23
imterrothanks01:23
abitavengerh08817,  I'm really not sure then :(01:23
omp342f||bber: should i try it now or do i have to restart X or something like that? :)01:23
f||bberomp342, Allow everyone, it now opens the port range from I think 6881 - 6889..01:23
bimberiimterro: np :)01:23
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f||bberApply the policy at the top thats all01:23
h08817o01:23
samu2the menus go a little crazy with duplicate apps and stuff when you install multiple window managers01:23
omp342ok01:23
omp342f||bber: i still get a connection refused error01:24
omp342only a few trackers work01:24
omp342most torrents i download the trackers dont work01:24
f||bberwhere you gettingt hem from?01:25
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omp342different places, the thing is these torrents worked fine in gentoo like 2 days ago01:25
BlueEagleomp342: They don't work at all or you're unable to connect the first time you try?01:25
abitavengerokay now that i have the song "playing", how do i make sound come out lol, how do i change the sound card drivers?01:25
Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:25
omp342BlueEagle: some trackers work, most give me a connection refused error when i open the torrent to download it01:26
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f||bberomp342, hmmm..if it was firewalllll you would see it blocking01:26
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BlueEagleomp342: Well, if it is sporadic then it's not your setup unless you've got a firewall that is fubar.01:26
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Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:27
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omp342=/01:28
erUSULabitavenger, check the volume control. What is your sound card model?01:28
abitavengererUSUL,  volume control checked, its a soundblaster01:28
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Cashelhowdies01:29
BlueEagleabitavenger: emu10k1?01:29
Bad_Magicanyone know a way to see the last couple things that have written to the sound card?01:30
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Bad_Magicim going nuts at this ding dong sound i keep getting every once in awhile01:30
BlueEagleabitavenger: Have you un-muted master and PCM?01:30
abitavengerexplain that please BlueEagle ...01:30
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erUSULwhich soundblaster01:30
BlueEagleabitavenger: alsamixer01:30
erUSULpci12801:30
erUSULpci51201:30
BlueEagleyou will see MM on master and/or PCM by default01:31
erUSULLive!01:31
erUSUL...01:31
Cashelglxgears shows 1550 fps for fglrx driver on a radeon 9600 pro 2/ 256 megs of ram + athlon 2200 w/ 512 megs of ram ... does that seem somewhat low to anyone?? Any ideas on how I can raise it?01:31
Bad_Magicaha! i figured it out01:31
abitavengerlive!01:31
Bad_Magicfucking gaim01:31
Bad_Magicyea that seems real low considering i get 4-5x that much01:31
BlueEagleabitavenger: also have a look-see on System->Preferences->MultimediaSystemsSelector in the gnome menu01:31
Bad_Magicwith a 9600 mobility01:31
tiagoooohow to remove gnome ( i use xfce )?01:31
Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:31
VoXCashel: get a better video card01:31
Cashelyeah I thought so too..01:31
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Bad_Magici didnt tweak my fglrx drivers tho01:32
Cashelyes well... short of that, any way I can speed it up? :)01:32
Bad_Magicso maybe there is better mobile support01:32
Bad_Magic=\01:32
cafuegoCashel: The fglrx driver isn't ideal, it's aslways going to be relatively low.01:32
CashelBad_Magic, what card?01:32
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Bad_Magic9600 mobility radeon01:32
VoXCashel: i was getting about the same from an nvidia fx520001:32
Bad_Magiclaptop card basically01:32
BlueEagletiagoooo: Short on disk space? sudo apt-get remove gnome, but I'm not sure that is "a good idea"(tm)01:32
Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:32
CashelVoX, The_Vox from undernet?01:32
VoXno01:32
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Cashelahh ok01:32
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Bad_Magic26136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5227.200 FPS01:33
Bad_Magic25904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5180.800 FPS01:33
Bad_Magic26136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5227.200 FPS01:33
BlueEagletiagoooo: Unless you're really short on disk space there's really no good reason to remove gnome. :)01:33
tiagooooBlueEagle, yes... 500 mb only...01:33
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VoXBlueEagle: unless they're using kde01:33
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Cashelyeah see I recall getting something closer to that in suse .... wondering whats different here...01:33
abitavengeri dont know where to go from here, what to check, i'm a n00b01:33
cafuego12096 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2419.193 FPS  (With mp3s playing, video play and beagle eating cpu cycles)01:33
tiagooooBlueEagle, couse my pc dont support my 40gb harddisk01:33
Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:33
BlueEagletiagoooo: Ouch, well then you might want to install only the base system and go from there imo.01:33
tiagooooand i use a 10gbhd as master....01:33
Bad_Magicyea well01:34
Bad_Magicmines a laptop01:34
Unit134679can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank01:34
Bad_Magic=P01:34
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BlueEaglevox: There's no reason to remove gnome because you're using kde unless you're short of disk space.01:34
VoXtiagoooo: how do you mean "doesnt support it"01:34
holycowbios probably can't see it and boot from it01:34
Bad_Magicnow... to isntall apache01:34
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Cashelsee I close everything when I test it and still get 1600 tops... even disabled dual head to no effect... internal/external gart shows same fps..01:34
cafuegotiagoooo: The easiest way to remove gnome is by using 'debfoster' from the command line. Check the 'P' key when any gnome packages are displayed.01:34
ZeroDreamhi01:34
tiagooooBlueEagle, i have  a  big hd but can use as master...01:34
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Bad_Magiccashel: couldnt tell ya, by all accounts you should be faster than mine01:34
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cafuegoBad_Magic: What cpu is yours?01:35
Bad_Magic=\01:35
Bad_Magicp4 2.8 HT01:35
x_orI have a USB disk which shows this when I run df:01:35
BlueEagletiagoooo: That sentence made absolutely no sense at all to me.01:35
Bad_Magicgig of 400 mhz ddr01:35
cafuegoThat's probably why yours is faster then a 2200+01:35
x_orOutput:  /dev/hdb1            192292124 183548848         0 100% /opt/wiab/binary_data/archive01:35
CashelBad_Magic, could I see your xorg.conf? I understand its a different card but may give me some idea...01:35
x_orIf you divide 183548848 by 192292124, you get .95.  Why is this showing 100%?01:35
Unit134679can no one help me?01:35
QuinthiusCashel: glxgears is hardly  a benchmark.... i wouldn't worry much about it...01:35
abitavengerBad_Magic,  what should i check for the sound drivers?01:35
cafuegox_or: 5% is reserved for root by default.01:35
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ZeroDreamhey people ubuntu 5.01 it works in pentium II 333 processor with 64 mb of ram?01:36
cafuegox_or: You cna tweak that number with 'tune2fs -m' or 'tune2fs -r'01:36
erUSULx_or, linux always reserves 5% of space for root01:36
crimsunZeroDream: yes01:36
HrdwrBoBZeroDream: slowly01:36
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cafuegoZeroDream: No, There is no Ubuntu 5.0101:36
Unit134679i cant see Administration and Preferences in the System menu...they show up blank, can someone help me?01:36
VoXUbuntu98?01:36
cafuegoAnd 5.10 isn't officially released yet.01:37
x_orcafuego/erUSUL:  But, this is not the bootable HD, this is an external USB drive.  It reserves 5% on every mounted HD?01:37
QuinthiusCashel: i'm also getitng around 1400-1500, with a 9700 pro 128M01:37
x_orI assume this is for temp files, and the like?01:37
doubletwistI'm having issues here... when I close my laptop and open it a few times [it doesn't suspend, just turns off the screen] , xorg starts to take more and more CPU...01:37
ZeroDreamcafuego sorry let me see the version01:37
erUSULx_or, yes01:37
cafuegox_or: yes, it does that when you format it. Docs, mate.. they explain everything :-)01:37
VoXget rid of the ati and get a decent(nvidia) card01:37
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HrdwrBoBVoX: nothing wrong with the ati per se01:37
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Unit134679i cant see Administration and Preferences in the System menu...they show up blank, can someone help me?01:37
BlueEaglezerodream: Unless it has got some exotic hardware it will work. If it will work well is a different matter.01:37
HrdwrBoBaside from the drivers01:38
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cafuegoZeroDream: If you want to install on that machine, do a 'server' install and then add a relatively light weight X setup like fluxbox.01:38
Quinthiusscrew nvidia01:38
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CashelI'm hardly going to drop 2+ bills for a new card01:38
BlueEaglezerodream: I assume you're meaning 5.04 (Hoary)01:38
doubletwistSo I'm constantly having to restart Xorg... any info on fixing this or is it 'just the way it is'?01:38
ZeroDreamcafuego_ ok01:38
svuis mac-on-linux supported on ppc64?01:38
abitavengerhow do i change my sound drivers?01:38
HrdwrBoBQuinthius: you can screw them if you like, but the best cards to use in linux for 3d are nvidia01:38
ZeroDreamBlueEagle yep01:38
VoXHrdwrBoB: yes, but they still fail it01:38
VoX:)01:38
crimsunabitavenger: from what to what?01:38
cafuegoZeroDream: because it's not going to like running Gnome.01:38
ZeroDreamcafuego yes i have hoary 5.0101:38
ZeroDreamsorry01:38
abitavengerfrom whatever it is now, to something soundblaster LIVE compatible01:38
ZeroDream5.0401:38
cafuegoZeroDream: That uses close on 400MB ram by default here.01:38
QuinthiusHrdwrBoB: maybe, good thing i dont care about 3d01:38
Cashelabitavenger, System > Preferences > Multimedia Selector01:38
VoXCAN YOU PUT BOB ON?01:39
x_orOK, here is a different question:  is there a command line option to set network settings?  network-admin requires X11 forwarding, or logging into the system via monitor/mouse/kbd.  I know how to use ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1, blah, but I'd prefer a "smarter" app./01:39
BlueEaglezerodream: What you could do is install the server system then install X and a light-weight window manager. IceWm is quite nice. Also fluxbox and xfce01:39
cafuegoVoX: Yes, with crossover office.01:39
BlueEagle...are quite nice01:39
crimsunabitavenger: lspci -v|grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/modules01:39
Concord_Dawnhmmm01:39
ZeroDreamBlueEagle thanks01:39
BlueEaglezerodream: No problem.01:39
ZeroDreami'll give it a shot01:39
Concord_DawnI'm trying to copy some files off a liveCD machine to another computer, and SFTP isn't working01:39
Concord_Dawnam I able to install packages in LiveCD?01:40
QuinthiusHrdwrBoB: nvidia screwed over a lot of people when they bought out 3dfx and then refused to write drivers for those cards when XP came out01:40
abitavengercrimsun,  what does that mean01:40
HrdwrBoBQuinthius: though to be  fair, those cards sucked long before nvidia bought them ouyt01:40
crimsunabitavenger: type it in a terminal01:40
abitavengerCashel,  i just change the output?01:40
DonLLiveCD saved my bacon just today. Trashed my MBR yesterday01:40
abitavengerCashel,  cause i tried changing them all and it did nothing01:40
erUSULedit the files in /etc/network/01:41
Cashelabitavenger, ohhh I must have misunderstood you sorry....01:41
erUSULx_or,  edit the files in /etc/network/01:41
crimsunabitavenger: after you type it in a terminal, tell me the output01:41
x_orerUSUL:  So that app is vi, eh?01:41
QuinthiusHrdwrBoB: my voodoo5 did quite well for that time period.... until upgrading to XP01:41
abitavengerokay, hold please :)01:41
erUSULx_or, no emacs ;)01:41
x_orI prefer emacs as well.01:41
erUSULConcord_Dawn, have you tried whith nc?01:42
abitavengercrimsun, 0000:02:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)01:42
abitavenger0 snd_intel8x001:42
abitavenger1 snd_emu10k101:42
crimsunabitavenger: if you're using Hoary, you can't easily switch01:43
abitavengerthere was one before it, and its the onboard audio, i dont want that01:43
abitavenger:(01:43
crimsunabitavenger: do you want to always use the live as default?01:43
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abitavengeryes01:43
cafuegoWhatever gave you the silly idea XP is an _upgrade_ ?01:43
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abitavengeronboard < *01:43
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Quinthiuscafuego: from 98 it is.01:43
crimsunabitavenger: then type this in a terminal: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base01:43
cafuegoQuinthius: Ha, hardly :-)01:44
Bad_Magicconsidering i havent blue screened once in XP in 4 years01:45
Bad_Magicyea id say so01:45
naliothQuinthius: that's debatable in #ubuntu-offtopic01:45
Bad_Magicjump off your high horse for about a half minute01:45
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Bad_Magic=P01:45
Quinthiusnalioth: then tell the people who are asking me.01:45
DonLThat's really good, Bad_Magic  Hope you're touching wood01:45
abitavengercrimsun,  just typed it in01:45
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Bad_Magic^^01:46
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crimsunabitavenger: and the output?01:46
Bad_Magicthat said, the only real erason i have it anymore is gaming and printing (fucking dell printer)01:46
abitavengercrimsun,  justin@justin:~$ echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base01:46
abitavengercorrect?01:46
crimsuncorrect01:46
crimsunno01:47
crimsunyou missed a closing "01:47
abitavengerah01:47
abitavengerokay01:47
abitavengerre-did it01:47
sorush20what is my drive name if I only have one partition on one drive, is it hda1 or just hda01:47
abitavengeroutput = options snd-intel8x0 index=-201:48
sorush20?01:48
Concord_Dawnsorush20, hda1.01:48
naliothsorush20: hda101:48
Concord_DawnAlthough, you will most certainly have more than one partition.01:48
erUSULsorush20, hda101:48
crimsunabitavenger: good. Now reboot.01:48
abitavengerokay, i shall return01:48
abitavengerwait01:48
abitavengerhow do i shutdown \ reboot with linux01:48
abitavengerme = n00b01:48
Concord_Dawnuse the menu?01:48
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Concord_DawnSystem->Log Out01:49
ZimHey does the fglrx package automaticly update my /etc/X11/xorgconfig or do I have to edit that myself?01:49
abitavengerwhy thank you01:49
abitavengerbrb01:49
naliothZim: it should take care of everything for you01:49
Cashelbbias01:49
tritiumhi nalioth01:49
QuinthiusZim: you need te edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
Concord_Dawnany way to speed up the LiveCD?01:49
naliothtritium: afternoon01:49
ZimGood so my 3d should work afetr rebooting.01:50
naliothZim:  "should"01:50
naliothZim: ymmv01:50
QuinthiusZim: you will have to use "fglrx" as the driver, istead of the default of "ati"01:50
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sorush20Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL I type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/ and I get the error wrong fs type bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error01:50
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Concord_Dawnyes.01:50
Concord_DawnThat's right01:51
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Concord_Dawndon't specify -t01:51
naliothsorush20: you need /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda01:51
Concord_Dawnshould figure it out by itself.01:51
crimsunsorush20: you can't mount an entire block device01:51
tritiumhi crimsun01:51
Concord_Dawnlook at the error nalioth01:51
crimsuntritium: hi, how goes?01:51
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tritiumcrimsun, not bad, thanks.  I'm on travel today.  How are you?01:51
crimsunConcord_Dawn: you can't mount an entire block device01:51
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__Phenotype__help!!!!!!!01:52
crimsuntritium: not too bad01:52
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naliothConcord_Dawn: sorry i'm rather lost on this technical stuff, but it looks like he missed the trailing 101:52
__Phenotype__i cant get a program running, can someone help please01:52
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nalioth__Phenotype__: tell us more01:52
kkrizka_hey guys, I need help with installing eclipse01:52
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QuinthiusZim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:52
sorush20Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL now I get the error that I must supply file system type.01:52
kkrizka_I followed the wiki page, but I am missing the java program01:52
__Phenotype__i get this error in the console01:52
Concord_Dawnyou shouldn't.01:53
kkrizka_which package is it in?01:53
nalioth!tell kkrizka_ about eclipse01:53
__Phenotype__./kaid: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:53
Zimbrb going to see if my card works now.01:53
naliothkkrizka_: ubotu is your friend, (check PMs)01:53
imterrohye, im just a little curious... how would i get this to detect my modem... it connects through usb01:53
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kkrizka_nalioth: the page I got is the one I followed01:53
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Bad_Magicdunno01:53
naliothkkrizka_: do you have all your repos enabled?01:53
erUSULsorush20, use mount -t <filesystemtype> /dev...etc. ext3 most likely01:53
Bad_Magic=\01:53
Concord_Dawnhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......01:54
Concord_Dawnok01:54
kkrizka_nalioth: yes01:54
Concord_Dawncan anyone help me with recovering a computer?01:54
Concord_DawnWindows will not boot01:54
Concord_Dawnand sftp won't work.01:54
naliothkkrizka_: open synaptic and see your java status (how many java pkgs you have)01:54
naliothConcord_Dawn: tried the livecd?01:54
erUSULConcord_Dawn, is nc instaled on the liveCD01:54
kkrizka_nalioth: java status?01:54
__Phenotype__nalioth... can you help?01:55
Concord_Dawnnalioth, yes.01:55
Concord_DawnNC erUSUL ?01:55
Bad_Magicg01:55
naliothkkrizka_: you need java dev pkgs and such, i believe01:55
erUSULis a command that can be used to send files over a network01:55
kkrizka_nalioth: do you know what they are called? I searched for java and got a lot of pkgs01:55
nalioth__Phenotype__: open synaptic and look for the file the error mentioned01:55
erUSULnetwork cat nc01:55
naliothkkrizka_: not off the top of my head, no01:56
Gobblawhere do i configure my gfx card?01:56
__Phenotype__nalioth, i did but the package was only like 3. something in synaptic01:56
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kkrizka_nalioth: sun-j2re? I found it on the wiki, let me see01:56
__Phenotype__this error is ./kaid: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:56
helvetesorry i got disconnected01:56
Concord_Dawnnetwork cat?01:56
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Concord_Dawnplz explain more in a query.01:56
helveteis there anyway i can get ubuntu to detect my modem(usb)01:56
Concord_Dawnyes01:56
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h17m4nhow do I view the list of channels in this irc server?01:56
naliothkkrizka_: no not that one01:57
helveteh17m4n: /list01:57
QuinthiusGobbla: most likely you want: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xerg01:57
h17m4nthx01:57
sorush20I can't run grub from ubuntu live..01:57
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GobblaQuinthius: what does that do excactly?01:57
kkrizka_nalioth: why not?01:57
naliothkkrizka_: there are java pkgs for developement (search synaptic using the 'names and contents' setting)01:57
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell sorush20 about grub01:57
ohphrackuf01:57
sorush20nalioth I'm trying to fix my grub error 17 on the laptop..01:57
erUSULConcord_Dawn, i don't chat too much... what is a query?01:57
helvetecan anyone help me?01:57
_mikeHi, i installed KBFX to change my panel look in KDE...but it doesnt show up in any of my menus01:57
QuinthiusGobbla: asks you a bunch of questions and then writes /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:57
GobblaI just wanna like do some settings (GUI) and install the drivers and usch..01:57
Concord_Dawnsorush20, ubotu gave you 2 links, check out the second one.01:57
helveteerUSUL: /query <nick>01:57
Concord_DawnerUSUL, /query nick01:58
Gobbla*such01:58
Concord_Dawnprivate chat window.01:58
__Phenotype__nalioth, know where i can find that libstdc++.so.601:58
kkrizka_nalioth:free-java-sdk?01:58
nalioth__Phenotype__: hang on a minute01:58
__Phenotype__thanks01:58
naliothkkrizka_: try that01:58
helvetewell anyone care to help?01:58
QuinthiusGobbla: that will let you select the driver to use,video card, monitor type, keyboard, mouse, ets01:58
helveteit would be much appreciated01:58
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QuinthiusGobbla: other than that, i'm not sure what you're wanting...01:58
kkrizka_when is next ubuntu (breezy?) supposed to come out?01:59
crimsunoctober01:59
Gobblaisnt there some program for graphics card?01:59
ohphrackuwhats tthe issue helvete01:59
nalioth__Phenotype__: here is one to get you started "libstdc++6"01:59
QuinthiusGobbla: what goal are you wanting to accomplish?01:59
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__Phenotype__ok, wher can i get it?/01:59
Gobblagetting the latest drivers and get up my fps01:59
helveteohphracku, im trying to set up my internet con, but i cant seem to get ubuntu to find my modem01:59
QuinthiusGobbla: what card?02:00
Gobblathats the thing, dont remember :/02:00
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QuinthiusGobbla: try lspci02:00
Gobblaradeon something02:00
naliothkkrizka_: in october02:00
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nalioth__Phenotype__: use synaptic to install it02:00
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ohphrackuhave u checked the ubuntu wiki, forums, google ?02:00
__Phenotype__i did......02:00
__Phenotype__and all i see is 3. something02:01
helvetei checked ubuntu02:01
ChadzaHey, if you use alien to make a .deb file, is that something you can share with other people?02:01
helvetewiki02:01
kkrizka_nalioth: thanks, it works but I get a error now, checking the log shows it was some kind of exeption02:01
ChadzaOr is it specific to your machine?02:01
Gobblaradeon 920002:01
GobblaQuinthius:02:01
SeveasChadza, you can share it02:01
naliothChadza: not advised, but yes you could02:01
Seveaswhat are you converting02:01
Seveas?02:01
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ChadzaWhy is it not advised?02:01
QuinthiusGobbla: hmm i'm not sure if that card uses the fglrx driver or drm...02:02
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SeveasChadza, finding a native .deb file is better02:02
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ohphrackuhelvete, what modem02:02
kkrizka_http://pastebin.com/35750702:02
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GobblaQuinthius: ok02:02
ChadzaIt's for java sdk 1.5, I don't know of one that exists for that.02:02
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Gobblaits fglrx02:03
reikiwoo-hoo! I'm performing my first wedding ceremony in October. :)  I know.... it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Ubuntu, but this is the only irc channel I'm in... heheheh02:03
QuinthiusGobbla: the package info seems to say that it is... so check out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI02:03
SeveasChadza, that's the BAD way of installing java02:03
ohphrackuhelvete, Have you tried the networking tool in the system administration menu?02:03
ChadzaIt is?02:03
Seveasthe VERY BAD way even02:03
MrGardenHoseManis there anything similar to 'ncurses-devel' package?02:03
ChadzaIt's the only way I could find that works.02:03
Seveas!tell Chadza about java02:03
ChadzaAnd there have been no problems.02:03
Invader_ZimOk it works now all I need to do is hunt down the codecs I enabled the other repositories but do not know the name of the default mp3 and win32 codec packages.02:03
Seveasubotu, told you the correct way02:03
ubotuSeveas: I don't know, could you explain it?02:03
naliothkkrizka_: can you compile stuff with your eclipse?02:03
GobblaQuinthius: okay02:04
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kkrizka_nalioth: can't even start it :P02:04
dj_Reiki: do you get to massage the bride or the groom?...02:04
QuinthiusGobbla: have you installed xerg-driver-fglrx already? or haven't done anything to it since installing?02:04
reikidj_, here's hoping! :)02:04
Gobblanope i havent02:04
QuinthiusGobbla: ok, follow that guide then02:04
Gobblaok thx02:04
VoXwhy isnt azureus available in breezy?02:04
dj_Query: I am trying to install SKYPE. I have the .deb package.02:04
Gobblaif the site would load that would be great02:04
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naliothkkrizka_: is there more eclipse stuff in synaptic you have not installed?02:05
crimsunVoX: because it isn't. You can install it following many sets of hints.02:05
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dj_I assume I use the Synaptic Package Manager to do the installation, but...02:05
GobblaQuinthius: the site seems down02:05
kkrizka_nalioth: there is nothing in synaptics to do with eclipse, I'm doing it manually as suggested by the wiki02:05
VoXcrimsun: righto02:05
dj_I have no idea how to make SPM see the package.02:05
QuinthiusGobbla: loads for me..02:05
fred_Hello ! I tried to install the ati drivers on Breezy colony 4 but it doesnt work :S02:05
Gobblastrange02:05
kkrizka_nalioth: that's why I waant breezy, has eclipse in it02:05
VoXcrimsun: same deal with vlc then?02:05
fred_I followed that method : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI02:06
helvetebreeze is a developer version?02:06
ohphrackuyes02:06
Gobblanow02:06
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crimsunVoX: vlc is in universe.02:06
ohphrackutesting02:06
helvetewhat differences are there?02:06
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Seveas!breezy02:06
ubotuhmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/02:06
naliothkkrizka_: your error log says you are missing things, perhaps you can find them where you got eclipse?02:06
ohphrackuin features?02:06
helveteexcept that it will come with eclipse and other compilers?02:06
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kkrizka_nalioth: eclipse.org or something, I'll look, thanks02:07
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ohphrackuim not to in tune with breezy so....02:07
__Phenotype__can anyone help me find libstdc++.so.602:07
helveteeclipse is cool02:07
sn0nhey hey hey guys02:07
Invader_ZimIt's libmad0 I need right?02:07
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tritium__Phenotype__, have you installed build-essential?02:08
sn0ni've got quite the silly question.. when gnome 2.12 comes, hoary is goin to include it.. right?02:08
__Phenotype__no02:08
fred_does someone know if ati drivers are supposed to work in colony 4 ?02:08
neri_why i cant log in as a root in the gnome02:08
helveteohphracku: check your pvt please?02:08
sn0nneri_, root is disabled02:08
sn0nneri_, use sudo02:08
ohphracku?02:08
__Phenotype__tritium, where should i go for that02:08
neri_thanks02:09
tritium__Phenotype__, you can install it from synaptic, or aptitude, or apt-get02:09
ChadzaCan I reset rhythmbox so I can change the way the library works (Setting up and controling the database)?02:09
helveteneri: you can make a root pw, sudo passwd02:09
sn0nno problem02:09
__Phenotype__ok02:09
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__Phenotype__then what afer i install that02:09
crimsun__Phenotype__: it's in the libstdc++6 package02:09
naliothneri_: you will screw up your userland settings by logging into gnome as root02:09
sn0nhelvete, dont that encourage impropter management of systems ?02:09
nalioth__Phenotype__: i told you how to do it02:09
sn0nimproper*02:09
__Phenotype__im not getting it02:09
nalioth__Phenotype__: start synaptic and install libstdc++602:10
tritium__Phenotype__, then you're ready to install the package crimsun mentioned, and you should have a nice set of development tools at your disposal.02:10
__Phenotype__nalioth, i know you siad it was in synaptic, but im not finding it02:10
tritium__Phenotype__, oh, you just need the lib?  Just get what crimsun and nalioth suggest02:10
Seveaslibstdc++6: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.602:10
__Phenotype__ok02:10
koalahcan I post a small error?02:11
helvetecan anyone help me get my modem detected? its usb02:11
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Seveaskoalah, on the pastebin :)02:11
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naliothtritium: then answer circular questions02:11
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tritiumnalioth, good idea :)02:12
sn0nso will gnome 2.12 be included as a update in hoary ? or do i need to wait for breezy ?02:12
crimsunsn0n: it's essentially in breezy already02:12
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naliothsn0n: it will be in breezy02:12
__Phenotype__seveas, libstc++6 is not in usr/lib/libstdc++.so.602:12
sn0ncrimsun, i dont want to use breezy right now thou.. it breaks alot of things02:12
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sn0nthnx nalioth02:13
nalioth__Phenotype__: we know that. your error told us. you need to install it02:13
crimsunsn0n: what does it break?02:13
nalioth__Phenotype__: open a terminal please02:13
sn0nvmware mainly02:13
__Phenotype__done02:13
koalahhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/200302:13
nalioth__Phenotype__: type "sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 "02:13
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sn0nbut also postfix does some weird crap when im shutting the system down, and freezes at postfix02:13
nalioth!tell __Phenotype__ about synaptic02:13
nalioth__Phenotype__: read what ubotu sent you, please02:13
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sn0nsynaptec and apt-get (cmd line) both break and i cant update..02:14
sn0nlots of crap02:14
crimsunsn0n: you can work around vmware with an older kernel (Hoary's)02:14
Seveaskoalah, you cannot chmod windows partitions02:14
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Seveasyou need to specify the file/dir mode when mounting02:14
__Phenotype__phenotype@Delltop:~$ sudo apt-get install libstdc++602:14
__Phenotype__Reading package lists... Done02:14
__Phenotype__Building dependency tree... Done02:14
__Phenotype__E: Couldn't find package libstdc++602:14
__Phenotype__phenotype@Delltop:~$02:14
__Phenotype__\02:14
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SeveasDO NOT PASTE in here02:14
__Phenotype__sorry02:14
koalahi want my regular user to be able to read files02:14
Seveasand ad some internet sources to your sources.list02:14
crimsun__Phenotype__: you need the main repository enabled02:15
DewDudehas anyone gotten nvu to run on ubuntu02:15
__Phenotype__crimsun, how02:15
neri_what p2p program do you recommend to me?02:15
nalioth__Phenotype__: paste in #flood or use a pastebin02:15
JustLinkhey02:15
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Seveaskoalah, then add uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0022,fmask=0133 to the mount options02:15
erUSULneri_, mldonkey02:15
JustLinkcan u tell me how to install a c compiler02:15
koalahfstab?02:15
nalioth__Phenotype__: ubotu is gonna send you some info02:15
SeveasJustLink, sudo aptitude install build-essential02:15
nalioth!tell __Phenotype__ about sources02:15
Seveaskoalah, yes02:16
JustLinkthanks02:16
koalahk, thanks02:16
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holotoneCould someone point me to a list of Wireless NICs that are automatically recognized on install w/ Ubuntu?02:17
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Seveasany atheros based card will do02:17
holotoneOr recommend a reasonably priced one that does a good job?02:17
holotoneprism II?02:18
Seveastroublesome02:18
arentieSeveas, I rebooted my computer, and now my ndiswrapper is all screwed-up02:18
crimsunthe centrino chipset based ones work fine02:18
holotoneWho makes atheros based cards?02:18
crimsun(ipw2x00)02:18
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arentieSeveas, I'm following the instructions at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto02:18
cevizoglunetgear02:18
Invader_Zimma11102:18
sorush20Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL crimsun I have tried what you have said file system ext3 and ext2, with the command mount -t and with just mount. In mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/work, I get the error wrong fs type, bad  option, bad super block on dev/hda1 missing code page or other error, the dmesg | tail returns the can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1, I can't run grun in livecd mode .. any other suggestions... and I have read full the links you have sent bu02:18
JustLinkhey Seveas tell me that command again please02:19
crimsunsorush20: don't pass -t to mont02:19
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SeveasJustLink, sudo aptitude install build-essential02:19
JustLinkto install the c compiler02:19
crimsunsorush20: s/mont/mount/02:19
arentieSeveas, I cannot run the command: dpkg -i --force-overwrite ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.1-1_i386.deb02:19
holotoneso basically any netgear card would be good?02:19
sorush20crimsun: what do you mean don't pass -t to mount..02:20
Invader_ZimFinding drivers that will work with ndiswrapper can be fun.02:20
Seveasarentie, mixing thid party modules is a bad idea02:20
Invader_ZimYou need to find some in a zip file and unzip that.02:20
Seveaseither use just these or just the ubuntu ones02:20
crimsunsorush20: don't type -t02:20
neri_is somebody from argentina or somewhere close?02:20
erUSULsorush20, try parted /dev/hda; then the comand print to see your partitions02:20
holotonehows about a good PCMCIA one w/ external antenna jack?02:20
sorush20crimsun: I've dont that but I get the message that I need to provide an fs type..02:21
JustLinkand can anyone tell me how to install latest tcl please02:21
cevizogluanyone know if airport extreme is supported with ubuntu breezy?02:21
arentieSeveas, I don't understand the problem since this is what I am instructed to do on the web page.  Where can I find a different set of instructions?02:21
Invader_Zimorinocco or entersys02:21
naliothcevizoglu: nope02:21
holotoneInvader_Zim: thanks02:21
cevizoglunalioth: good, I just bought a netgear wireless card  :D02:21
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naliothcevizoglu: talk to broadcom, without their support, NO linux will have APX support02:21
holotoneDo any of the netgears have external antenna jacks (PCMCIA)?02:21
JustLinkhey Seveas can you tell how to install the lates tcl version02:21
crimsunJustLink: 8.4.11 (stable), 8.5a3 (unstable)02:22
JustLinkoiks02:22
bpuccioanyone here have a terastation and use it as a SMB printer server?02:22
Invader_ZimOk anyone know the name of the win32 codec package in horay multiverse?02:22
crimsunw32codecs02:22
popeywin32codecs02:22
Invader_Zimwin32codecs the usual name does not work.02:22
popeyoh02:22
bpuccioInvader_Zim: I think its in hoary extras02:22
Agrajagit's not in multiverse, is it?02:22
Agrajagyeah02:22
sorush20erUSUL: I tried the parted and I don't see file system on theh extended partition02:23
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holotoneIs the Orinoco Gold classic card a decent card?02:23
ChadzaWhen you first run Rhythmbox, it asks you if you want it to manage your library.  I said no, but now I want to say yes.  Any way for me to reset this?02:23
bpuccioInvader_Zim: and its w32codecs02:23
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kkrizka_Invader_Zim: w32codecs, just isntalling them now02:23
QuinthiusChadza: just import directories from the menu... that's all the initial setup does02:23
holotoneI know it only does 802.11b, but for only $25, the price can't be beat.02:23
Invader_ZimHow do I add extras I enabled multiveres and universe?02:24
erUSULsorush20, you have linux on an extended partition?02:24
holotoneand I've heard good things about it, but are the Orinoco Gold drivers included w/ Ubuntu, as in plug 'n play style?02:24
sorush20erUSUL: I have tree partitions.. linux swapr on logical then boot on primary02:24
nalioth!tell Invader_Zim about sources02:24
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bpuccioInvader_Zim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28extras%2902:24
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bpuccio!tell bpuccio about sources02:25
JustLinkbotmsg.c: In function `unsigned_int_to_base10':02:25
JustLinkbotmsg.c:138: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault02:25
JustLinkhey02:25
JustLinkwhat does this mean?02:25
arentieSeveas, where are the ubuntu drivers?02:25
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sorush20erUSUL: it seems to be on the extended partition but it is the way it was installed as default by Ubuntu02:25
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crimsunJustLink: it means you need a newer version of gcc02:26
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JustLinkaah thanks02:26
pepsihow can i reinstall grub?02:26
cevizogluI'll drive ubuntu for ya, $4.50 an hour02:26
crimsunJustLink: why do you have to have gcc 4?02:26
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erUSULsorush20, what filesystem types do you see in parted02:26
sorush20pepsi: what exactly is the problem02:27
erUSUL?02:27
DewDudeis anyone even awake?02:27
crimsunall asleep02:27
neri_how can i get the pass? how can i be the owner of a linux file?02:27
sorush20erUSUL: I see linux swap only.. as the logical and primary and extended ther eare nothing..02:27
naliothwe' all out playing golf02:27
sorush20DewDude: yes i am awake..02:28
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pepsisorush20, linux is on hdd, grub is on the MBR of hda, and hdb didnt exist before, but now it does, so i think grub tries to boot hdb instead of hdd02:28
erUSULsorush20,  what have you done to the disk?02:28
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Invader_ZimCool that worked02:28
sorush20erUSUL: this has happende with out me knowing a number of times..02:28
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pepsisorush20, can i dpkg-reconfigure grub?02:30
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arentieDoes anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/200402:31
zblachits weird. when i turn on my computer, i get the drums at the log on screen, but i can't listen to any sound otherwise02:31
arentieDoes anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/200402:31
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erUSULpepsi, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the device names02:31
AlosHI guys02:31
erUSULpepsi, to the new ones02:32
AlosIf i want to install 504 release can I make a /home partition??02:32
Seveasyes02:32
naliothAlos: yes you can02:33
arentieDoes anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/200402:33
Seveasarentie: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:33
gsanseGood night everybody. Does anyone know how to instal a Creative dxr3 board in Ubuntu?02:33
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pepsierSUL how would that fix it? /boot is on hdd, which never moved, but how will it find /boot if i added a drive to hdb?02:33
eva-02grep syntax to search for default.cfg?02:33
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pepsii need to reinstall the MBR02:34
arentieSeveas, through your support you suggest that I not use third party drivers...where are the supported drivers?02:34
Alosthat's all that i need to leave my  data alone???02:34
JustLinkcrimsun, i installed a leter version but still the error comes02:35
Seveasin linux-restricted-module-something02:35
Seveasjust install linux-686 if you have an intel cpu02:35
Seveasor linux-k7 if you have an amd02:35
arentieSeveas, now I cannot re-construct my ndiswrapper, and suddenly I can't get any support02:35
sorush20erUSUL: what else can I do to fix this problem02:35
HergiswiMy name is Christopher. How are you? I am fine. I am 14 years old, and I live in the ocean. I live off of fish sperm and clam urine. I also enjoy music. This is all I have to say.02:35
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Hergiswifuck, stupid /amsg02:35
Inf3ctedFxHey ppl =)02:35
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JustLinkhey02:36
JustLinkort you suggest that I not use third party drivers...where are the supported drivers?02:36
arentieSeveas, this undermines my faith in this community...02:36
Inf3ctedFxwhat is the command to install a package from DEBIAN>>???02:36
JustLinkdns.c: In function `block_dns_hostbyip':02:36
JustLinkdns.c:449: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault02:36
wastrellooking for help getting ggv to talk to my printer.   CUPS is configured and working, printing works from other apps but not ggv.  I can't find anywhere to configure printing in ggv.  any ideas?02:36
JustLinkcan anyone tell how to fix this error?02:36
Seveasarentie, I give you support by answering the question, what more do you want???02:36
zblachInf3ctedFx, dpkg02:36
Inf3ctedFxa package ending on .deb?02:36
Inf3ctedFxyes.. thats the one I forgot lol02:36
SeveasInf3ctedFx, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb02:36
Inf3ctedFxdkpg pakage.deb  right?02:36
zblachyup02:36
Inf3ctedFxis sudo?? or sudo -s02:36
Seveassudo02:37
Inf3ctedFxok02:37
zblachjust plain old pseudo02:37
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Inf3ctedFxso it will be:  sudo dkpg -i filename.deb02:37
JustLinkhmm..02:37
malvo1so when does ubuntu migrate to 2.12?02:37
Seveashoary: never02:37
JustLinkhey anyone tell me how to fix the error please02:37
JustLinkdns.c: In function `block_dns_hostbyip':02:37
JustLinkdns.c:449: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault02:38
Seveasbreezy: already ahs 2.1202:38
SeveasJustLink: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:38
erUSULsorush20,  what you get from $ ls /dev/ | grep hd02:38
arentieSeveas, the question is: what is the supported methodolgy of installing the ndiswrapper if the method as stated on Ubuntu's homepage does not work?02:38
malvo1breezy > hoary?02:38
cevizogluSeveas: you need a bot for that02:38
crimsunSystem> About GNOME> Version: 2.12.002:38
Aloswhich desktop is better gnome or kubuntu???02:38
malvo1gnome02:38
malvo1i've tried both, but the gnome desktop was more stable02:38
Serpentwolffluxbox :P02:38
cevizogluAlos: gnome02:38
XorlevI like KDE the best, but Gnome is nice too.02:38
malvo1not to mention, it looks more professional02:38
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Inf3ctedFxlook this was my problem I have a wireless card aBroadcom BCM 4306 and ubuntu cannot support it.. so I when to this website  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ and accourding what it said.., is eather I can install the debian pkg or the source02:38
XorlevIts a matter of personal preference really.02:39
bimberiAlos: don't ask that question :P02:39
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Seveasarentie, and i said: install linux-686 or linux-k702:39
wastrelanyone know how i can easily print double-sided on a non duplex printer?02:39
malvo1i used to use kubuntu, but I switched to gnome02:39
XorlevThough Kubuntu is a bit less stable.02:39
malvo1a lot less stable02:39
XorlevIndeed.02:40
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Inf3ctedFxok brb02:40
arentieSeveas, ok fine.  Where and how to I access documentation on how to install this?02:40
XorlevI'll probably switch to Gnome until Kubuntu Breezy comes out.02:40
malvo1amarok and k3b are nice, though02:40
Seveasarentie, same as every other package, with synaptic or apt-get :)02:40
malvo1gaim is infinitely better than kopete02:40
arentieSeveas. so I simply type: apt-get linux-686?02:40
Seveasapt-get install linux-68602:41
Alosthere are a minimun size for / partition???02:41
Seveasand reboot02:41
SeveasAlos, how much were you planning to give it?02:41
malvo1is there a way to install a package without it configuring anything?02:41
cyphaseit's amazing how little you pay attention to your background02:41
Alosjust the basic02:41
arentieSeveas, how do I know which one i should use between 686 or k7?02:41
XorlevI use gaim in KDE malvol, as well as Synaptic.02:41
cyphasei just changed my background after more then a week, maybe 202:41
malvo1cyphase: make everything transparent02:41
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Seveasarentie, do you have a pentium processor or amd?02:41
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arentieSeveas, I have a pentium02:42
cyphaseand in 5 seconds i had to look through my background list to remember02:42
Seveasarentie, linux-68602:42
malvo1yea, but usually when I use one desktop over another, I use applications native to that environment02:42
arentieok, I will try that...thank you02:42
malvo1also, I like evolution more than kmail as well02:42
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AlosSeveas: just the basic, I started to learn linux02:43
wastrelevo is a depressing outlook cline02:43
wastrelclone02:43
cevizogluI think gaim and xchat be merged into one app02:43
cevizoglus/be/should be/g02:43
HrdwrBoBcevizoglu: .. or not02:43
wastrelgaim has an irc plugin02:43
malvo1is there a way to register with nickserv automatically through gaim?02:43
SeveasAlos, give it a few GB, then you can play around02:43
Seveasmalvo1, use your nickserv password as server password02:44
malvo1thanks02:44
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Seveascevizoglu, gaim can handle irc already02:44
malvo1that was my only qualm02:44
erUSULcevizoglu, unix mantra "tools do only one thing and do it well"02:44
AlosSeveas: 3.5 for / and 2.5 for /home02:44
Seveasmore than enough02:44
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arentieSeveas, so now I reboot...then do I go through the same protocol of installing the ndiswrapper, or is it supposed to work automatically assuming that my wifi card is a linksys?02:44
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AlosSeveas: and 502 mb fos swap, I have 256 on ram02:45
cevizogluerUSUL: they **are** virtually the same thing02:45
Seveasarentie, it should pickup any drivers you already installed with ndiswrapper -i02:45
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erUSULchat is no im02:45
Paradoxxhello all, can some1 help me please...02:45
SeveasAlos, swap could be a bit bigger, try 76802:45
wastrelparadoxx just ask the question, don't ask if you can ask :] 02:45
Paradoxxfor some reason the video for .mkv files arn't player02:45
Paradoxxhow come?02:45
Paradoxxwastrel: it was coming :)02:46
arentieSeveas, so I don't need to run the command "modprobe ndiswrapper"?02:46
AlosSeveas: ups, it's installing right now02:46
SeveasParadoxx, you might need gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg or ffmpeg02:46
Seveasarentie, isn't ndiswrapper listedn in /etc/modules?02:46
AlosSeveas: I'll do on a toshiba tecra 8000, it will work02:47
naliothParadoxx: vlc will play .mkv files02:47
ParadoxxSeveas: i already have it02:47
kkrizka_Invader_Zim: problem was the java wm, I put the sum vm (suggested at #eclipse) and it works now02:47
naliothkkrizka_: cool!02:47
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wastreli'm looking for help getting ggv to talk to my printer.... or on how to print double-sided from another pdf viewer...02:48
ParadoxxSeveas: anything else i can try?02:49
arentieSeveas, yes it is listed in /etc/modules02:49
Lunar_Lampok - i think i;m being dumb - but i can't work out how to connect to my router wired - i can find out how for wirelessly, and i can find out how without a router - but not the usual wired via a router02:49
Seveasarentie, then you don't have to modprobe manually02:49
Seveasanyway - 2:49 pm here - suspending /proc/self02:49
arentieSeveas, so a simple reboot will do the trick assuming that the drivers and hardware are installed02:49
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bimberiSeveas: pm? you are tired :)02:50
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Paradoxxvlc didn't work02:51
Paradoxx^o)02:51
arentieSeveas, I should be all set to do a reboot, correct?02:51
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khermansAnyone get vlc working on amd64 -- its not playing videos, just hangs :-(02:53
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Cody`anyone mind assisting me getting media players working?02:53
Cody`I've installed xmms, bmp, mplayer, xine02:53
Inf3ctedFxmm ppl  sorry 4 bother u a lot...02:53
Cody`all lockup on playing of sounds02:54
Inf3ctedFxI was trying to install the pgk but it said command not found02:54
Cody`and if I run mplayer sdl file.mp3 it says02:54
crimsunCody`: have you configured them to use esound?02:54
Cody`audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy02:54
Cody`alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=002:54
Cody`alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default02:54
crimsunCody`: mplayer -ao esd foo.mp302:54
Cody`let me try02:54
Cody`Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.02:55
Cody`Audio: no sound02:55
Cody`Video: no video02:55
Inf3ctedFxand this is what I did.....    sudo dkpg -i filename.deb02:55
Cody`xmms won't even play them02:55
khermansusing esd works02:55
Cody`it locks up as well02:55
khermanswhy doesnt default work?02:55
Inf3ctedFxand when I use "sudo" is asking me 4 password02:55
crimsunkhermans: for what app? oss emulation is tied up by esd.02:55
sorush20erUSUL: this has happende with out me knowing a number of times..02:55
Inf3ctedFxI type my user password and the say "sorry"02:55
crimsunCody`: in XMMS, configure the output plugin to be esound02:56
crimsunCody`: same for beep-media-player02:56
khermanscrimsun, i try to use vlc, but it hangs02:56
Cody`let me try02:56
crimsunkhermans: install vlc-esd02:56
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Inf3ctedFxanyone knows why?02:56
khermanscrimsun, why doesnt the default sound daemon work all the time/02:56
Cody`crimsun, once again I owe you02:56
Cody`thanks02:56
khermansi somehow lost sound now too, no "beeps" why i click things02:57
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crimsunkhermans: esd works by default. Have you changed any settings?02:57
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khermanscrimsun, i installed ubuntu -- using it for a while, not sound isnt working02:57
khermanswhen it reboots, might work again02:57
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crimsunkhermans: cat /proc/asound/modules02:58
brownie17nalioth: what is the url you should enter when using webmin?02:58
Lunar_Lampi've made a pretty stupid mistake - i changed default settings for eth0 without knowing what i was doing - didn't make a record - and now want to put them back to default.  where can i get them from?02:58
khermanscrimsun, snd_intel8x002:58
sorush20Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL crimsun I have tried what you have said file system ext3 and ext2, with the command mount -t and with just mount. In mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/work, I get the error wrong fs type, bad  option, bad super block on dev/hda1 missing code page or other error, the dmesg | tail returns the can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1, I can't run grun in livecd mode .. any other suggestions... and I have read full the links you have sent bu02:58
crimsunsorush20: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/work  <-- what happens?02:59
Cody`crimsun, esd isn't in mplayer options :/02:59
Inf3ctedFxmmm02:59
naliothbrownie17: idk what webmin is, sorry02:59
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brownie17nalioth: ok, sory02:59
sorush20crimsun: error..02:59
Inf3ctedFxcan anyone help me here?02:59
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crimsunCody`: echo "ao=esd" >> ~/.mplayer/config03:00
Paradoxxhow do i get .mkv files to play properly...no video03:00
naliothsorush20: you couldnt chroot into your existing HD installation?03:00
brownie17seveas: what is the url you should use in your browser when trying to use wemin?03:00
brownie17seveas: webmin*03:00
sorush20crimsun: must specify file system..03:00
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crimsunsorush20: paste the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:00
naliothbrownie17: have you tried in a terminal "man webmin" ?03:00
Inf3ctedFx!dkpg03:00
ubotuInf3ctedFx: Wish i knew03:00
sorush20nalioth I can use the live cd but can't see the hda1,2,5 mounted anywhere..03:01
brownie17nalioth: no, i will03:01
jangabrowniel: https://localhost:1000003:01
Inf3ctedFx!broadcom03:01
ubotuInf3ctedFx: Are you smoking crack?03:01
Inf3ctedFxlol03:01
naliothInf3ctedFx: what are you after?03:01
Inf3ctedFxi'm trying to install the drivers for my network card wireless03:01
Inf3ctedFxi beleive i have the driver03:01
Inf3ctedFxon .deb a debian package03:01
naliothInf3ctedFx: so ndiswrapper?03:02
Inf3ctedFxbut I try to run the driver it wont work03:02
sorush20crimsun: I can't paste cause its my laptop that I'm trying to fix but I can tell you that.. hda is on Linux system03:02
Inf3ctedFxyes nalioth03:02
Inf3ctedFxthe same one03:02
sorush20hda2 is extensed03:02
bimberiInf3ctedFx: it should be "dpkg"03:02
naliothInf3ctedFx: some drivers won't work at all03:02
sorush20 and hda5 is linux swap03:02
ngmlinuxcan anyone help me get wireless networking working on a laptop?03:02
Inf3ctedFxdpkg??03:02
Inf3ctedFxohh my bad  lol03:02
ngmlinuxit's a building in broadcom chip that isn't supported by linux03:02
Lunar_Lamphttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:02
crimsunsorush20: what filesystem is /dev/hda1? It shold be detected automatically.03:02
brownie17is anyone here familiar with webmin?03:02
Lunar_Lampwireless networkting on laptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:02
crimsunshould^03:03
ngmlinuxLunar_Lamp, this is a non standard issue here03:03
Cody`crimsun, still doesn't show up in list, I select another driver then click configure and choose configure, select esd, still no work03:03
Lunar_Lampoh, sorry03:03
ngmlinuxmy wireless has a hardware switch03:03
Inf3ctedFxok but another question why when I run the command:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb is asking me 4 password?03:03
crimsunit's not going to show up03:03
jangabrownie17: https://localhost:1000003:03
ngmlinuxyou have tol hold fn-F2 in windows03:03
ngmlinuxto activate it03:03
crimsunCody`: you needed to type that command I gave you and restart mplayer03:03
sorush20crimsun: that is the problem with the grub error 17 it can not detect the file system03:03
ngmlinuxso idk what would happen in linux03:03
crimsunCody`: alternately, mplayer -ao esd foo03:03
Lunar_Lamp!tell Inf3ctedFx about sudo03:03
Inf3ctedFxnalioth: ok but another question why when I run the command:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb is asking me 4 password?03:03
bimberiInf3ctedFx: yes, that is your password, assuming you have sudo access03:03
brownie17janga: got that much, but i am having trouble wit hteh password prompt. should i bee using the user account "root", and the password i specified in the terminal?03:04
wastrelanybody know anything aboug ggv ?  i'm trying to get it to talk to my printer.03:04
Inf3ctedFxmm i think I dont03:04
Cody`still doesn't work :/03:04
Inf3ctedFxhow can I get sudo access03:04
crimsunsorush20: you should be able to at least type the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda03:04
sorush20crimsun: I can't see the file system type on out put of the fdisk command that you gave me .03:04
bimberiInf3ctedFx: are you using the account you created during the ubuntu install?03:04
Inf3ctedFxyes03:04
Inf3ctedFxthe same one bimberi03:04
Cody`crimson that says the same thing, No available audio device03:05
crimsunsorush20: you don't need the FS type; it just needs to say Linux is the right-most column03:05
bimberiInf3ctedFx: hm, type "groups" in a terminal and tell me if "admin" is in the list03:05
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crimsunCody`: pgrep esd03:05
jangabrownie17: somewhere in the webmin directory there is a scrit called password.pl or so.03:05
Inf3ctedFxnalioth:  do u think that package should work??03:05
Inf3ctedFxi'm on windows bimberi  I have no access to internet cuz my wireless card wont work03:05
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sorush20crimsun: you want me type everthing.. I can't tell you the star and end blocks.. too.. I think there is an .. it dose say that..03:05
jangabrownie17: sudo ,/password.pl03:05
brownie17janga: it will be encrypted for sure, yes?03:05
malvWhen is the next installment of Ubuntu due?03:05
Cody`Still does the same :/03:06
bimberiInf3ctedFx: ah, k, well your own password should work if you haven't modified the sudo settings. perhaps a typo03:06
Quinthiusmalv: october-ish03:06
jangabrownie17: yes03:06
crimsunsorush20: so it does say Linux is the FS type? What precisely are you typing as a command to mount /dev/hda1?03:06
Inf3ctedFxmm03:06
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sorush20crimsun:  yes it says linux on the id 83  . I must tell you that this problem occured as a result of the failing to read the node at scan disk due to 30 or more restarts03:06
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Inf3ctedFxhow can I modifed the sudo settings?03:06
brownie17janga: so what good wil finding it do me?03:06
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malvnot too far off then03:06
naliothInf3ctedFx: ndiswrapper doesnt work in all cases03:07
naliothInf3ctedFx: or requires tweaking03:07
bimberiInf3ctedFx: using the "visudo" command usually03:07
malvare the free cds usually distributed around the time of release?03:07
sorush20crimsun: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/03:07
malvI wanted to distribute Ubuntu to incoming freshman within our CS department03:07
crimsunsorush20: as root?03:07
Quinthiusmalv: i think they are releasing a preview release soon, or did today...03:07
crimsunsorush20: or using sudo?03:07
sorush20crimsun: yes.03:07
bimberimalv: no, i got my hoary CDs two weeks ago despite being on shipit since warty03:07
crimsun"yes"?03:07
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jangabrownie17: /usr/local/webmin/changepass.pl /path/to/config/dir admin NEWPASSWORD03:07
crimsundo you mean "as root"?03:08
sorush20crimsun: I type sudo -i03:08
Quinthiusmalv: i have heard shipit can take months....03:08
sorush20so I am root03:08
Inf3ctedFxmmm so ok this is my situation nalioth  I download the pkg for ndswrapper and I try to install lets say I installed.. do u think my NIC wireless will work?03:08
malvyea, I did take a while to get my cds03:08
bimberimalv: i can confirm that shipit takes months :)03:08
crimsunsorush20: -i?03:08
malvunfortunately the install cds were from a bad batch ( I already reported it)03:08
Inf3ctedFxafter I configured of course nalioth03:08
naliothInf3ctedFx: i dont have any direct experience with ndiswrapper03:08
crimsunsorush20: did you mistakenly type -i instead of -s?03:08
reikiso maybe I'll get Breezy CDs by the time mine ship :)03:08
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Inf3ctedFxok, thx anyway nalioth03:09
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brownie17janga, pm? copied what you just said into terminal, got no such file or directory03:09
malvAnyways, it's really cool that they offer free cds.03:09
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crimsunsorush20: regardless, -i should work03:09
atilaHi all; anyone has Descent as D1X compiled ? Thank you .03:09
jangabrownie17: wait...03:09
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sorush20crimsun: so I typed the right thing yes..03:09
brownie17janga: ok03:09
Inf3ctedFxlet me try03:10
Inf3ctedFxbrb03:10
crimsunsorush20: presuming you're using the correct device, yes03:10
crimsunsorush20: is it an IDE HD or SATA or SCSI-II/I?03:10
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newbehello all03:11
jcd1006does ubuntu come preinstalled with a ftp program?03:11
Epixwhen does breezy come out?03:12
crimsuna client? Yes. lftp.03:12
Epixthis month, surely03:12
crimsunEpix: october03:12
bimberijcd1006: client - yes, server - no03:12
jcd1006where is it?03:12
sorush20crimsun: it is an IDE.. may be the block are work have a look.. hda1, start at 1 and end 4776, then hda2, start at 4777 end 4864, hda5 start 4777 4864, is that right03:12
bimberijcd1006: You can use nautilus, Places -> Connect to Server03:13
crimsunsorush20: you shouldn't be concerned with block #s; the partition heading and its corresponding FS type suffices03:13
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ngmlinuxi was following the ndiswrapper instructions exactly from the wiki03:13
atilaEpix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule03:13
ngmlinuxand got error messages03:13
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ngmlinuxdpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)03:13
ngmlinuxdh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6528003:13
ngmlinuxmake[2] : *** [common-epilog]  Error 103:13
ngmlinuxmake[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2'03:13
ngmlinuxmake[1] : *** [binary]  Error 203:13
ngmlinuxmake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2'03:13
jcd1006bimberi: thanks03:13
ngmlinuxmake: *** [deb]  Error 203:13
bimberijcd1006: yw :)03:14
tgahey, does anyone know an email client that can do something similar to gmail's 'conversations'?03:14
Aloshi guys there was a problem installin 504, and now I get aptitud 0.2.15.003:14
crimsunngmlinux: seems pretty clear, it's not supported package-wise on amd64.03:14
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bimberingmlinux: please don't paste here03:14
ngmlinuxwhy? AMD_64 is supposed to be backward compatible wiht i38603:14
malvarn't conversations similar to threading?03:14
malvcause if so, evolution and kmail both do it03:14
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crimsunngmlinux: you're not running i386, are you? You're running amd64.03:14
JustLinkhey janga03:14
tgamalv, I'd like something that also folds quoted text03:14
newbetheres an amd64 disk03:14
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i know that and i know what the error message means, i don't know how to fix it though03:15
sorush20crimsun: I must tell you, that the scan disk facility (what was its name again?) the one that starts at about 30 reboots failed and the problems started there.. I forced overwrite and I think I made a big mistake...03:15
tgamalv, and displays the entire thread on a single page03:15
JustLinktell how to change the pass in webmin03:15
JustLinki couldnt login with the root user03:15
malvtga: don't think either do that then03:15
ngmlinuxcrimsun and the whole great thing about the amd64 arch is that it's supposed to run i386 code too03:15
tgamalv, I know, that's why I'm asking03:15
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mwright1whats the latest version of breezy badger... is it the one from August03:15
tgamalv, folding the quoted text makes threads significantly more readable03:15
Lunar_Lamphmmm - n00b question: when in a terminal, and i type "ping x.x.x.x" - how do i stop it? lol03:15
D1 eww, the new gnome 2.12 splash screen is UGLY.03:15
wastrelctrl-c03:15
malvvery true03:16
Epixwhats new in breezy?03:16
Lunar_Lampthanks wastrel03:16
ngmlinuxnew bugs Epix03:16
ngmlinuxthat's about it03:16
Lunar_Lamplol - was starting to bug me!03:16
wastrelLunar_Lamp, you can use ping -c  to limit the number of pings also03:16
mwright1LTSP gnome 2.12 evolution 2.403:16
mwright1lots new03:16
ngmlinuxi have breezy03:16
mwright1openoffice 2.003:16
crimsunsorush20: I can't help if you can't describe precisely what you did03:16
D1it looks like alkazeltzer03:16
jcd1006one more question, is there a program like putty on here?03:16
mwright1ssh03:16
atilaEpix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals03:16
jangaJustLink: cd /usr/share/webmin03:16
mwright1there is also a putty port to linux03:16
crimsunngmlinux: the arches are very different to dpkg03:16
newbelol D103:16
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malvtga: That's probably a Google innovation needs to catch on to the various mail clients out there03:16
jangaJustLink: then:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin root NEWPASSWORD03:17
ngmlinuxokay crimsun, what do I do, there is no AMD_64 for ndiswrapper03:17
ngmlinuxthat i see03:17
anaccountanyone know how i can get pyqt?03:17
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Lunar_Lampw0000t!03:17
sorush20crimsun: I keep on getting error 17 on grub and what I precisely did I can't remember exactly but the fsck failed and could not read the nodes..03:17
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crimsunngmlinux: you may be able to resolve the native amd64 support by using this package: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb03:17
arentiehow do i remove an entire directory via terminal?03:17
sorush20what is the alternative to scandisc on ubuntu03:17
paulproteus|laptarentie: rm -rf /path/to/directory/03:17
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tgamalv, I want to switch from gmail back to a local MUA and I don't know which one to use03:18
jangaJustLink: or:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin admin NEWPASSWORD03:18
crimsunngmlinux: keep in mind that you'll need the dependencies installed that are listed here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/ndiswrapper-source03:18
newbequit03:18
ngmlinuxcrimsun can you switch to a pm there is a lot of activity on this room03:18
atilaarentie, with -r parameter I guess03:18
ngmlinuxand i don't want to miss what you say03:18
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crimsunngmlinux: I prefix each address to you03:18
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mwright1The only thing Breezy is missing is, FreeNX03:19
mwright1vnc viewer screenscraping and X server for remote terminal sessions sucks03:19
mwright1whereas FreeNX rules03:19
jcd1006does anyone know if there is a program like putty on here?03:19
HrdwrBoBfreenx does rule, however the implementation is like stabbing yourself in the face03:19
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HrdwrBoBjcd1006: er03:19
HrdwrBoBjcd1006: ssh03:20
jcd1006shh, yes03:20
crimsunjcd1006: putty can be downloaded, yes, but openssh-client is already installed03:20
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jcd1006*ssh03:20
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mwright1jcd1006: search google and there is a putty port for linux03:20
mwright1or use ssh03:20
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jcd1006crimsun: which is better03:20
wastreljcd1006, the program is called ssh.  open a terminal and type ssh -l <username> <some address>03:20
brownie17nalioth: why does there seem to be alot of people just coming and going?03:20
HrdwrBoBjcd1006: ssh03:20
mwright1ssh -l username destination.hostname.or.ip.address.com03:20
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HrdwrBoBwastrel: or ssh user@host03:20
crimsunjcd1006: "better" is subjective, but I prefer openssh-client03:20
mwright1and if you want to tunnel a port its -Lxxxx:destinationhostname:destinationport03:20
naliothbrownie17: the default setting in xchat brings you into #ubuntu. perhaps those folks didnt want to be here03:21
ngmlinuxi notice that03:21
brownie17nalioth: ok03:21
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ngmlinuxok crimson i have the source deb03:21
mwright1There is a putty for linux though03:21
wastrelHrdwrBoB, i think better with command line flags for some reason :] 03:21
crimsunngmlinux: now install the source deb and its dependencies03:21
naliothbrownie17: also, you may be seeing bot activity03:21
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brownie17nalioth: hmm....03:21
eva-02le sigh03:21
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walternew ubuntu install here, How would i go about setting up a sound card03:21
tgayou can just ignore joins and parts03:22
mwright1is anyone here involved in ubuntu development strategy etc03:22
crimsunwalter: what type of sound card?03:22
eva-02ubuntu was looking great until i tried to get sound working in quake303:22
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HrdwrBoBwalter: it should be setup already03:22
eva-02this is the bullshit that makes me hate linux :/03:22
ngmlinuxcrimson dependencies are auto with apt-get03:22
mwright1I'd propose including FreeNX which is the greatest compliment to LTSP (which has already been included)03:22
moralehas anyone got the ati drivers working on amd64 yet? well.. the drivers work but the utilities in /usr/X11R6/bin don't work..03:22
crimsunngmlinux: if you apt-get install ndiswrapper-source, yes03:22
HrdwrBoBmwright1: yes, people know that03:22
mwright1FreeNX makes vnc redundant on Linux for remote terminal service sessions03:22
tgaeva-02, getting a soundcard to work without proper drivers would be just as much fun on any other OS03:22
Quinthiustga: where can you ignore joins/parts? i couldn't find it03:22
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HrdwrBoBmwright1: and as I said before, it's implementation is disastrous03:22
eva-02tga: i have sound in everything else03:22
jcd1006thank you everyone03:22
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bimberianaccount: do a search in synaptic for "python-qt", those packages might be what you're after03:23
walteronboard03:23
VoXLOL_PAN03:23
tgaQuinthius, in xchat right click the #ubuntu tab, go to #ubuntu -> Show joins/parts03:23
Lo_PanLOL03:23
mwright1HrdwrBoB: maybe if ubuntu has resources they could allocate to the FreeNX guys03:23
crimsunwalter: lspci -v|grep -i audio03:23
brownie17nalioth: when i'm trying to run a script in terminal, where i have quadruple checked that fle name is right, and even the hlep document, it stll tell me there si no such directory03:23
anaccountI have python-qt303:23
magnetookay via8233 sound problem- i have sound working but i can only mute the sound - otherwise it is totally uncontrollable except with certain apps like xmms or amarok- the owner of /dev/snd /dev/audio /dev/dsp is root - even when i change that the problem remains03:23
HrdwrBoBmwright1: we're talking ground up rewrite03:23
ngmlinuxcrimsun i think it worked03:23
Quinthiustga: oh, i was looking in options and stuff03:23
walterok one sec03:23
ngmlinuxcrimsun how can I check i have ndiswrapper properly installed?03:23
mwright1well at this stage for something that is badly written, it works really really well03:24
crimsunmagneto: you need to create an ~/.asoundrc that defines a softvol pcm plugin because your hardware does not contain a volume control03:24
walter0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)03:24
JustLinkcan someone please tell me how to install pearl03:24
mwright1certianly on i386 it does anyway03:24
crimsunJustLink: perl is already installed03:24
JustLinkcrimsun, if so the default path is?03:24
nskr37help mac os ubuntu mouse no funciona03:24
crimsun/usr/bin/perl03:25
JustLinkok03:25
JustLinkthanks03:25
cevizogluJustLink: type "which perl"03:25
magnetothanks crimsun - that sounds about right from creative labs issues i had in the past - thanks much03:25
Invader_ZimWhich mplayer is the one I should install k6 586,386 or custom?03:25
brownie17janga: you there?03:25
ngmlinuxcrimsun, how can I check to see if ndiswrapper was properly installed?03:26
crimsunInvader_Zim: which cpu do you have?03:26
jangayes03:26
ngmlinuxor fully installed for that matter03:26
crimsunngmlinux: did you compile it?03:26
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Invader_ZimAMD opteron03:26
jangaDoes anyone know the options to set in xorg.conf to enable 8x agp ??03:26
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i don't know03:26
crimsunInvader_Zim: k603:26
wastrel"hella"03:26
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ngmlinuxcrimsun, i have no idea if apt-get did that or not03:26
crimsunngmlinux: then no, it's not installed03:26
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crimsunngmlinux: you need to actually compile it03:26
DgIy0hey everyone!03:27
crimsunngmlinux: install ndiswrapper-source, build-essential, module-assistant, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:27
walterdid you see that crimsun03:27
Lo_Panif you have an opteron run a k8 one03:27
wastrelanyone know how to get ggv to talk to my printer?03:27
Invader_ZimThanx this appears to work with my setup.03:27
crimsunwalter: yes, but I need more output03:27
ngmlinuxabout about make crimsun?03:27
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crimsunngmlinux: no, not yet03:27
JustLinkcrimsun, Full path to perl (default /usr/bin/perl): /user/bin/perl03:27
JustLinkTesting Perl ...03:27
JustLinkERROR: Failed to find perl at /user/bin/perl03:27
DgIy0i have a MAC G3 and i just downloaded the image... burned it with my NERO (on my PC)... I AM NOT able at all to boot from CD is there anything i forgot? or anything i did wrong?03:27
crimsunJustLink: it's /usr not /user03:27
Lo_Pan/usr/bin/perl03:27
JustLinkaah03:27
walterl@wox:~$ lspci -v|grep -i audio03:28
walter0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)03:28
walterl@wox:~$03:28
Invader_ZimNow I just need to tell KDE and gnome not to use totem.03:28
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walterthats all03:28
crimsunwalter: no, I need the model number. Paste the lspci -v full output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:28
ngmlinuxcrimsun, ok done, but i get errors03:28
crimsunngmlinux: what did you finish?03:29
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Invader_ZimOld world macs need to use bootx.03:29
DgIy0really?03:29
DgIy0thanks03:29
jangabrownie17: i somehow cant reicive private messages03:29
ngmlinuxhold on crimsun i have to use pastebin because people don't like me pasting here03:29
brownie17janga: ok sorry, but do you know how to fix the problem/03:29
Invader_Zimyah I have an old beige g3 I ran ydl on for a while.03:29
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ngmlinuxcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/35755203:30
wastrelngmlinux, use #flood03:30
walterok will do03:30
naliothLo_Pan: that is not nice03:30
jangabrownie17: yes i answered to JustLink above03:30
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ngmlinuxi didn't think the commands you sent me were corrent crimsun03:31
Lo_Panx-chat is aids for port 666703:31
DgIy0<Invader_Zim> is ubuntu stable on an old beige G3 ????03:31
ngmlinux*correc03:31
ngmlinuxt03:31
crimsunngmlinux: that's because you omitted 'apt-get'03:31
ngmlinuxanybody here able to use wireless on their ubuntu?03:31
khermansanyone ever notice that if a GTK button becomes ACTIVE and your mouse is over it, that you can't click the button until you move your mouse away and come back?03:31
DgIy0it still has 256Mb ram and lots of updates...03:31
ngmlinuxokay crimsun03:32
crimsunngmlinux: also, don't use commas as separators03:32
walterdone03:32
ngmlinuxcrimsun, my bad, i just copied what you gave me03:32
poningruguys rofl03:32
jangaDoes anyone know the options to set in xorg.conf to enable 8x agp ??03:32
poningruhttp://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=kgvn40shsvu5?tname=smegma&method=6&sbid=lc04a03:32
atilakhermans, I did notice :-)03:32
Invader_ZimUmm mplayer seems to skip and that should not happen on this box.03:32
poningruzomg03:32
ngmlinuxcrimsun, done03:32
poningrulmao03:33
khermansatila, is this bug filed or is it a well known issue?03:33
ngmlinuxcrimsun it basically said everything was already up to date03:33
Invader_ZimThe cpu is barely loaded.03:33
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atilakhermans, well I have no idea; but i avoid placing the cursor on the button before applications load03:33
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mwright1Whats the latest version of Breezy Badger?03:33
crimsunngmlinux: now you have to download that new ndiswrapper-source deb I mentioned03:33
brownie17janga: why did you say it to him!? i can't see it, must have been too lnog ago03:33
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atilakhermans, especially synaptic + search button03:34
crimsunmwright1: hasn't been released yet03:34
mwright1I have one from August, I think it is prerelease03:34
mwright1203:34
khermansatila, wow hope someone else in the GTK team has found this one03:34
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mwright1devel versions03:34
ngmlinuxcrimsun, that was the first thing i did03:34
crimsunthe breezy preview is out RSN03:34
jangabrownie17: ok wait03:34
Invader_ZimI'm going to try the 586 package03:34
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i thought that was needed before this step03:34
mwright1when did that come out?03:34
khermansatila, hehe i use aptitude from the CLI03:34
tgaanyone else having trouble with the gaim-evolution integration?03:34
mwright1whats the address to download mirror sites03:34
atilakhermans, :-)03:34
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Lo_Pan.....03:34
jangabrownie17: first: cd /usr/share/webmin03:34
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tgathe evo data server seems to hang and eat most of the cpu03:34
cevizoglutabs on IM should come with a warning label, I just sent a message to my boss that I thought I was sending to my wife03:34
ngmlinuxcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/35755603:34
crimsunngmlinux: you should have the version from Debian unstable installed03:35
tgayou shouldn't be im'ing with your boss in the first place03:35
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jangabrownie17: then:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin root NEWPASSWORD03:35
atilacevizoglu : oops, gecmis olsun03:35
ngmlinuxcrimsun, how can i check?03:35
cevizoglutga: he was im'ing me03:35
tgadon't answer, it's a trap03:35
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Invader_ZimAll your wifi perfs should be settable via iwconfig.03:35
atilaperhas someone who newly joined has Descent as D1X compiled ? Thank you .03:36
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brownie17janga: thanx03:36
crimsunwalter: you need to compile the 'azx' driver (for Intel High Definition Audio) using the directions I'm sending you.03:37
Lo_Panyou people should stop scratching your heads and reinstall windows03:37
crimsun!tell walter about alsa-source03:37
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jangabrownie17: ur wellcome03:37
khermansis there transparency in Gnome for windows?03:37
VoXhaha pan03:37
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cevizogluatila: benim turkce cok kotu03:37
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walterthanks crimson i will try and get back to you03:37
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crimsunngmlinux: dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii03:37
khermansany transparency options in XFCE, enlightenment, or blackbox?03:38
khermansif Gnome sucks for it03:38
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Invader_ZimIt seem the days of those horrible dot11_wep_crap this and that are gone.03:38
Vexirgod..03:38
tgakhermans, xorg supports transparency, no matter what window manager you use03:38
Vexiri get ignored on IRC so much03:38
Vexirlol03:38
ngmlinuxcrimsun, dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii03:38
ngmlinuxii  ndiswrapper-source 1.1-4ubuntu1   Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module03:38
atilacevizoglu : no problem :-) just checked your connection seems you live far far away ... still IM'ing boss is bad luck03:38
Vexirlets try one more time03:38
Vexirhttp://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000153057792/03:38
crimsunngmlinux: you still have the older version03:38
Vexir..03:39
Vexirno wait03:39
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Vexirthere =)03:39
khermanstga, but doesnt it only put the desktop behind the window?03:39
crimsunngmlinux: install the newer deb that you downloaded03:39
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khermansnot true trans?03:39
shawnzhi surfichris.03:39
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ngmlinuxcrimsun, please walk me through that03:39
shawnzsurfichris you newb :(03:39
walteri dont type the && part thats just for me to break uo the commands?03:39
surfichrispff03:39
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ngmlinuxcrimsun i could have swarn that's what i just did03:39
toranhey guys, how would I go about writing an AVI or OGM video file to a DVD that my DVD player can play?03:39
tgakhermans, the X server supports it, but it's not all that great (or useful for that matter)03:39
shawnzget back to coding mybb you lazy little c***03:39
shawnz@ surfichris03:39
shawnz:(03:39
tgakhermans, check this out http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency03:39
crimsunwalter: copy and paste exactly what the bot told you03:39
odatanyone know a way to figure out if open gl is enabled?03:40
tgakhermans, the part about transset03:40
Lo_Panodat: yes, look03:40
funkyHatwalter, doing && means if the thing before exits succesful, then do the thing after, so you can do it all on one line03:40
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anaccountcrimsun03:40
crimsunodat: glxinfo|grep -i ^direct03:40
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odatk03:40
VexirHow do I get my wifi card working with Ubuntu? I havent installed it yet but I want to make sure I can do it03:40
Vexirhelooooo03:40
anaccounti use the intel i915 grafx03:40
h17m4nwhat card?03:40
anaccounthow can I enable opengl03:40
surfichrisVexir03:40
funkyHatwalter, if you want though, you can split up the commands there03:40
Vexiri have a dlink DWL-G52003:40
Vexirsurfichris: Ya?03:41
crimsunanaccount: my 915 works by default03:41
atilasee you people around, bye03:41
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odatcrimsun: k i got the following 'direct rendering: No'03:41
Vexirh17m4n: i have a dlink DWL-G52003:41
khermanstga, thx dude -- good link ;-)03:41
tgakhermans, np03:41
anaccountthe 915 is shared mem right03:41
anaccount?03:41
ngmlinuxcrimsun, do you use apt-get or dpkg for installing ndisrapper.deb?03:41
Vexirsurfichris: What?03:41
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surfichrisVexir, should work out of the box03:41
crimsunngmlinux: you have to dpkg -i03:41
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ngmlinuxokay03:42
walterthanks funkyHat ill do it the way he said though03:42
Lo_PanFUCKING JEWS03:42
Vexirsurfichris: Ok. This is my second tiem with linux, im nooby... im hoping the ubuntu install will be straightforward :)03:42
shawnzlmao03:42
ngmlinuxcrimsun, someone told me to never use dpkg and to only use apt-get03:42
surfichrisbest way is to try it03:42
crimsunngmlinux: you have to download http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb03:42
funkyHatwalter, yes, less work for you that way :)03:42
surfichrisUbuntu is very straight forward ;)03:42
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anaccountLo_Pan    whoa....03:42
Lo_Pan     _ _______        ______03:42
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Lo_Pan _  | |  _|  \ \ /\ / /\___ \03:42
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jcd1006in gaim, is there a way to make it notify you, like making the boc highlight or anything so that you know when someone says something besides just sound?03:42
Vexirgreat03:42
ngmlinuxcrimsun, already done03:42
shawnzVexir: same, its really straightforward and its quite easy to use.03:42
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khermansCAPS03:42
Lo_Panuh oh03:42
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Invader_ZimOk it works now even wmvs.03:43
Lo_Pan     _ _______        ______03:43
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h17m4n+b03:43
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odatanyone know how i enable open gl?03:43
walterthis xchat in nice enoguh i could get used to this03:43
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shawnzirssi is better than xchat tbh.03:43
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shawnzbut no gui.03:43
kevogodshawnz, That is a rather blanked statement03:44
kevogod*blanketed03:44
homsspa ged ste momci imali koja ribica03:44
crimsunngmlinux: did you dpkg -i ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb?03:44
shawnzaww.03:45
homssmac03:45
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walterbuild alsa with debuggin code? default is no03:45
anaccounthomss... hrvat03:45
anaccount?03:45
crimsunwalter: yes, you should03:45
naliothshawnz: in #ubuntu-offtopic with your comparisons, please03:45
ngmlinuxcrimsun, is this what I want? dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii03:45
ngmlinuxii  ndiswrapper-source 1.2+1.3rc1-1   Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module03:45
shawnzno gnome in that link for alpha and X03:45
crimsunngmlinux: yes, it is03:45
homssno srbin03:45
anaccountlol03:45
ngmlinuxcrimsun, good okay, step 1 complete03:46
homsssrbija do tokija03:46
mwright1is qt GPL or LGPL?03:46
ngmlinuxcrimsun, what would i do next03:46
ngmlinuxthe wiki says to load the inf03:46
crimsunngmlinux: follow the directions in /usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper-source/README.Debian03:46
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odatcrimsun: any idea how i enable open gl?03:46
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i guess i need a windows machine to make the inf right?03:46
Quinthiusodat: what vid card?03:47
h17m4nwhere are themes installed?03:47
crimsunodat: make sure the proper drm kernel module is loaded and that xorg.conf is configured correctly03:47
h17m4nI just downloaded kwin-baghira for kde and I can't find where it was installed03:47
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homsspogledajte sta je fudbal03:47
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odatcrimson: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 03:47
homss1 na listi03:47
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anaccountim not serb03:48
homss1 u svetu03:48
homsssta not03:48
mik3is there a special flag for when tarring up a directory so winzip/winrar can decompress the file on windows?03:48
ngmlinuxcrimsun, that README doesn't apply03:48
naliothmik3: not to my knowledge03:48
crimsunngmlinux: what doesn't apply in it?03:48
mik3or what would be an ideal syntax03:48
walteris enemy territory available for linux03:48
tgah17m4n, did you try the control centre -> themes or styles?03:48
ngmlinuxthere's 4 pharagraphs on packaging, crimsun03:48
crimsunwalter: yes03:48
tgawalter, yes03:48
anaccountcrimsun03:48
waltercool03:48
ngmlinuxcrimsun, it does not explain how to install03:48
crimsunngmlinux: yes, and you have to compile a package03:48
anaccountopengl runs on your card by default03:49
anaccount?03:49
ngmlinuxcrimsun, what the (#*)(*$# did i just do though?03:49
crimsunngmlinux: only after you compile an ndiswrapper package can you install the created deb03:49
mik3what's the correct syntax to "zip" a directory?03:49
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ngmlinuxcrimsun????03:49
homssmenjate temu03:49
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i thought we just verified that the new version was installed??????03:49
crimsunngmlinux: then after you install the created deb, you can actually run ndiswrapper with your nic's inf03:49
crimsunngmlinux: that's the SOURCE03:49
naliothmik3: "tar cvf <tarname.tar> directory_name03:49
walterokay crimson thats finnished03:49
ngmlinuxcrimsun, why would I install source????03:49
anaccountjebem sve srbin03:50
tganalioth, that's not zip, eh03:50
crimsunngmlinux: because the older versions simply don't support amd6403:50
naliothmik3: in a terminal, "man tar" will show you all kinds of neat tricks03:50
h17m4ntga: it's not there03:50
anaccountjebem sve ustase03:50
homsspupis ti srbinu03:50
crimsunngmlinux: hence you have to make a newer package using a newer version03:50
anaccountjebem sve bosanski03:50
tgah17m4n, try #kubuntu03:50
h17m4nI did a sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira03:50
naliothtga: mik3 asked for "zip" not zip03:50
odatanaccount: i checked opengl and it said direct rendering: NO03:50
ngmlinuxokay okay, looks like this will take a few hours, crimsun, i'm patient03:50
homsssisite mi kurcinu03:50
tganalioth, I see :)03:50
anaccounthomss hahaha03:50
crimsunngmlinux: on a decently fast machine, it should only take a couple minutes03:50
ngmlinuxcrimsun, i've read the documentation, now what?03:51
ngmlinuxmake make install deb?03:51
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homssekstazi ,trens03:51
crimsunngmlinux: now follow the directions to decompress the source and compile the deb03:51
naliothtga: i believe that "zip" is becoming the de facto "compressed file format to ask for" because windows users dont know too many others03:51
anaccountYebem te u mozak03:51
homsssrbin do jaja03:51
ngmlinuxum crimsun, do i want to make a kpkg?  no rihgt?03:51
ngmlinuxi want to compile and install03:51
tgamik3, `zip -r dir.zip dir` works if you specifically want a .zip03:51
anaccountPederchino03:51
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crimsunngmlinux: not, you don't need to use make-kpkg03:51
ngmlinuxcrimsun these are instructions for something else03:52
crimsunwalter: sudo modprobe snd-azx03:52
homssjebi mater pedersku03:52
eva-02how can i remove a "link" from the games menu?03:52
eva-02are those files in a folder somewhere?03:52
tganalioth, it's also that win xp and the likes can do zip out of the box.. for gz, bz2, rar, etc you have to install extra stuff03:52
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anaccountJebi se svinjo03:52
ngmlinuxcrimsun, do i want module assistant?03:52
crimsunngmlinux: yes03:52
odatuhm is there anyway that i can enable opengl?03:52
anaccountYebem lee tee miloo maykoo03:52
crimsun(you were supposed to install that before)03:52
walterdone03:52
anaccountNe postoyi veche sranye nego ti03:52
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crimsunwalter: no errors, correct?03:53
naliothtga: also mik3 asked 'tar' questions leading up to his 'zip' question03:53
ngmlinuxcrimsun: ok i'll module-assistant install the ndiswrapper then i do make?03:53
tganalioth, ok, I didn't catch that03:53
crimsunngmlinux: just follow the directions03:53
walterduring the long text i couldnt see any03:53
homssizracunaj koliko ti kite treba03:53
walterit went the whole way throguh anyway03:53
crimsunwalter: no, the modprobe03:53
ngmlinuxcrimsun, WHAT DIRECTIONS????03:53
walterno output at all03:53
walterassume good03:53
anaccountMarsh u lepo peechka materina ti yebeni prokliti derkagia03:53
crimsunwalter: good. Now, cat /proc/asound/cards03:53
crimsunngmlinux: hold a sec03:53
ngmlinuxit says if you want to kpkg and stuff, i don't know what directions to follow and the03:53
ngmlinuxok03:54
ngmlinuxcrimsun, idk why i'd want to install and then build? these instructions leave things out03:54
walterl@wox:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$ cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards ---03:54
walterl@wox:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$03:54
homsshey you motherfucker you wanna mess with serbs03:54
homssare you sure?03:54
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anaccounthahah03:55
naliothno politics in here please03:55
anaccounthes nuts03:55
odatanyone have any ideas about opengl?03:55
sn0nno politics?03:55
sn0nFUCK BUSH!!!03:55
anaccounti dont know of what politics he speaks of03:55
mwright1hmm don't need a balkan war here03:55
naliothanaccount: there are language channels for folks03:55
moralewhat are you trying to do with opengl ?03:55
sn0nsry..03:55
sn0nhes my president03:55
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ngmlinuxclinton is the real president03:55
naliothno politics03:55
walterdamm right03:55
moraleodat, what type of video card, is it xf86 or x.org, whats your problem that you are having?03:56
crimsunwalter: lsmod|grep ^snd_azx03:56
anaccountDa bi te majka prepoznala u bureku03:56
mwright1nalioth: ubuntu itself is about politics03:56
anaccountnalioth im a person who has seen all things03:56
odatmorale: its xorg and its a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 03:56
ngmlinuxcrimsun, you still trying to figure this out?03:56
anaccountand speaks all languages03:56
anaccountlol03:56
odatmorale: this commands returns glxinfo|grep -i ^direct03:56
mwright1It's built on licenses, which fit without in a governments grant of limited rights over artistic works etc etc03:57
odatmoral: direct rendering: No03:57
naliothpolitics with bad language is definitely not acceptable in here03:57
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moraleodat, do you have dri enabled in your xorg.conf?03:57
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mwright1yer bad language is not required03:57
crimsunngmlinux: the only thing you have to do is ''module-assistant auto-install ndiswrapper''03:57
waltersnd_azx                15328  003:57
odatmorale: not sure03:57
moraleodat, do a grep on /etc/X11/xorg.conf for "dri"03:57
anaccountmwright1... whose.... mine?03:57
wastrelanyone know how i can print pdf's double-sided03:57
ngmlinuxcrimsun, ok03:58
walteryou mean the da* word03:58
odatmorale: what would that command be?03:58
waltersorry03:58
crimsunngmlinux: / walter: I'm being called away at work and will return in an hour03:58
moralegrep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf - you should see a line that says Load "dri"03:58
mwright1anaccount: that was supposed to read yes, bad language is not required03:58
ngmlinuxcrimsun, "Build of the package ndiswrapper-source failed! How do you wish to proceed?"03:58
walteri will wait03:58
mwright1yer wasn't slang for your in this instance03:58
anaccountim not cursing03:58
ngmlinuxok thanks crimsun, i give up03:58
ngmlinuxlinux was never designed to support wireless right?03:58
odatmorale: k it says load dri03:58
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moraleodat, what do your log files say in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when attempting to load the dri module?03:59
ngmlinuxwhy have plug and play wireless in windows when you can spend 2 weeks trying to get it to work in ubuntu only to find it's impossible?03:59
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peirthiesI am having an intresting problem with my burner, under here, it only seems to want to burn at 1x under growisofs regardless of what I have the -speed= set at.. any ideas?03:59
ngmlinuxi love linux i'm working on a distro that takes an experienced user 4000 commands to send an e-mail03:59
windexngmlinux, windows was never designed to support wireless either. the Wireless Zero Conf service is a sidestep to that, which attempts to brokenly treat all wifi adapters the same.04:00
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ngmlinuxwindex, wireless just works in windows though04:00
ngmlinuxi have to modify and compile an application for it in linux04:00
ngmlinuxand it crashes in ubuntu04:00
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slywhy not go back to windows then......................if its what your hardware works on, stick with it04:00
windexngmlinux, not really. the only advantage to wifi on windows is that a) it has commercial drivers and support and b) the application to manage profiles is a little better imho.04:01
ngmlinuxsly you're like the 100th linux person to tell me to use windows04:01
ngmlinuxlol04:01
ngmlinuxwindows isn't that good04:01
ngmlinuxbut much better than this04:01
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moralewindows works fine.04:01
wastrelthere's an application to manage wifi profiles in linux?04:01
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ngmlinuxbut wifi doens' twork in linux does it?04:01
ngmlinuxit's still in development04:01
windexwastrel, "no".04:01
windexsure it does04:01
odatmorale: LoadModule: "dri"04:01
odat(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a04:01
odat(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"04:01
odatcompiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.004:01
odatABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.204:01
windexif you have the right hardware.04:01
moralewifi works fine in linux if you buy something supported.04:01
windexodat, don't paste, someone else will violate your sanity now.04:02
wastrelmy laptop runs linux and works fine w/ wifi04:02
odatsorry windex04:02
ngmlinuxthat's great wastrel04:02
wastrelbut theres' no decent UI for managing wifi afaik04:02
moraleodat, do you have the "glx" module loaded also?04:02
slyi know of 2 wifi laptops that work fine.............. my personaly dont04:02
ngmlinuxwonder why people pay a lot of $$ to use windows when linux is free04:02
ngmlinuxbecause it just works04:02
ngmlinuxwell most of the time04:02
sorush20guys I'm using streamripper and I'm unable to change the user agent can someone help please..04:02
windexwastrel, just like ifconfig, though, iwconfig is a cakewalk if you've used it a bit04:02
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ngmlinuxture04:03
ngmlinuxtrue04:03
bimberiwifi works fine if you're lucky enough to have hardware made by a company that is linux friendly04:03
ngmlinuxsnon you make a good point04:03
wastrelwindex, i'm talking pointy clicky of course04:03
odatmorale: how do i check  I looked in synaptic and i didn't see any glx loaded04:03
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windexwastrel, i know. but pointy clicky is not and never will be the strong point of a linux distribution.04:03
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wastrelwindex, which explains why i can't print my pdf's double-sided :[04:04
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windexwalter, at least you can print single sided. my printer and cups don't get alone.04:05
windexerr, along.04:05
wastrelyeah but i want to save paper :] 04:05
wastreland i bought a new printer because my old one didn't work :] 04:05
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odatk morale i think i found it in the log04:05
walterwrong man i think04:06
peirthieshaving a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?04:06
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Invader_ZimAnyway I can get rid of totem?04:06
sn0nthnx man..04:06
sn0nsry bout that :-X04:06
mik3Seveas you here04:07
sn0nInvader_Zim, not really.. why you want to/>04:07
_lui_hello hello04:07
windexwastrel, for reasons unknown, lpd will print to my printer, but cups, hell, half the time my printer hard locks.04:07
Invader_ZimIt just gives me a reasouce busy error while all other players work.04:07
sn0nyou could remove it from the panel04:07
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Invader_Zimbesides when it was in another distro it was crap anyway so I will not miss it.04:08
thoreauputiccan someone type my nick please?04:08
sn0nlocate totem , pipe it, and rm all totem lines04:08
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Invader_ZimIt simply did not work here.04:08
sn0n:: chuckles ::04:08
sn0nthoreauputic,04:08
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thoreauputicthanks04:08
sn0nInvader_Zim, you can try Totem-xine04:09
odatwell does anyone have any idea about the opengl thing?04:09
nalioththoreauputic: you got bells on now?04:09
bimberismeghead :)04:09
dabaR@nalioth?04:09
dabaRheh04:09
evaderhowdy04:09
thoreauputicnalioth: no, I'm trying to set the bell :)04:09
_lui_here is my today problem: I have 2 sound cards, one comes with the board and the other is a SB Live... the thing is, I like ubuntu to start with the SB and to control it with the GUI, what I need to do?04:09
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic:04:09
HrdwrBoB_lui_: disable the onboard card in the bios04:10
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HrdwrBoBthat is the easiest thing to do04:10
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naliothdabaR: hmm?04:10
_lui_hmmm+04:10
dabaRexactly.04:10
_lui_ok04:10
_lui_thx04:10
dabaRanyhow, got an assignment due.04:10
evaderHow do you stop/start a service for runlevel 204:10
_lui_I'll be back04:10
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evaderjust change it from a S to a K prefix in /etc/rc2?04:11
evaderor chmod -x it in there?04:11
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evaderor remove that link all together?04:11
peirthiesI am having a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?04:11
Invader_ZimWhy isn't xine the default player?04:11
sn0nbecause gstreamer is good for gnome04:11
odateveryone is assuming that gstreamer will surpass xine04:12
sn0nand xine is just x based04:12
sn0ni like my reason better  ;-)04:12
odatlol04:12
sn0nhehe04:12
Agrajaggstreamer isn't very good for much of anything04:12
Agrajagyet04:12
Invader_ZimI doubt it no codecs ever worked in totem for me04:12
evadergxine rocks04:12
sn0nits good for porn04:12
Invader_Zimgxine does rock.04:12
AgrajagInvader_Zim: install totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer04:12
sinnedCan anyone here help me with something?04:12
sn0ni mean.. uhmm.. listening to legal ogg files04:12
sn0n;-)04:12
sinnedI'm trying to download a rpm and firefox is being gay04:12
sn0nsinned, right click save as ?04:13
D1you use gstreamer for pr0n?04:13
sinnedTried04:13
odatyea04:13
D1really? I thought xine was good for that.04:13
sn0nD1, of course..04:13
Invader_ZimAlso mplayer is great too for that type of stuff.04:13
sn0nlol04:13
kevogodRPMs are Real files. RedHat hijacked the extension.04:13
sn0nhehehe04:13
sinned"XML Parsing Error: Syntax error"04:13
sn0nsinned, wget it04:13
odatyou need to install a critical plugin for gstreamer if you want all the codecs working04:13
sinned:?04:13
slysinned........ why would you need a rpm for ubuntu ?04:13
sn0nsinned, man wget04:13
sly=\04:13
sinnedI'm downloading synergy04:13
kevogodGStreamer sucks for porn. Xine is the only way!04:14
sinnedAnd it only comes with .rpm for linux04:14
sn0nlol..04:14
omp342gnome 2.12 is released :)04:14
omp342will it be included with breezy?04:14
sn0nomp342, not yet04:14
bimberi!info synergy04:14
omp342sn0n: www.gnome.org04:14
ubotusynergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB04:14
Invader_Zimnice no sound04:14
odatnot if you install gstreamer.pitfdll04:14
sn0noo shit.. i didnt even notice the date04:14
sn0nhahaha04:14
sn0ni thought it was the 6th still04:14
slyits the 8th here04:15
bimberisinned: synergy is available in the universe repository04:15
sinnedOh04:15
sinnedOka04:15
sinnedy04:15
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lewwyhey guys04:15
lewwyCan somebody help me with a wine problem in here?04:15
odatbimberi: what is synergy?04:15
walterhow do you keep the ubuntu system up to date installing all the security fixes but not normal programs04:15
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sinned!info synergy04:15
ubotusynergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB04:15
sinnedThere04:15
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odatahhh ok04:15
kevogododat, Meh04:15
omp342for some reason when i turn off my computer04:15
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sn0nwalter, turn off some repos04:16
omp342my sound settings dont get saveed04:16
omp342saved*04:16
Invader_ZimOk it does not tank now but it has no sound at all and yes my card is working.04:16
odatkevogod:  ??04:16
lewwyI run SteamInstall.exe (under wine, non-cvs) and I get "Could not initiliaze installation.  X:\GLC14b.tmp File not found04:16
sn0nwalter, there is security- repos.04:16
sn0njust turn off the others04:16
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PounKhello04:17
sinnedbimberi, how do you run syenergy04:17
sinnedErr04:17
sinnedHowever you spell it :/04:17
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odatanyone know what this means04:17
odatglxinfo|grep -i ^direct04:17
odatdirect rendering: No04:17
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wastrelit means your hardware acceleration isn't working04:17
slymeans you got shitty s3 graphics like my laptop04:18
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PounKdo breezy while have a graphic installation? 04:18
PounKGraphicalInstaller is wip in Low Priority but ubuntuexpress is  Deferred04:18
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waltersn0n, so I would just leave that one uncommented and then to a general update?04:18
odatlol anyway to fix it?04:18
Madpilotodat: what graphic card do you have?04:18
sn0nyea04:18
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walterhow often do you do it?04:18
lewwyOk, I take it nobody can help me with my steam problem.  How about when I'm in Counter Strike 1.6 I lag like nothing on earth as my ping blows out to about 700.  While I'm in the game it seems to send and recieve packets once every second. Any suggestions about that?04:18
bimberisinned: i don't04:18
sn0ni run updates daily04:18
sinned:/04:18
odatmadpilot: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 04:18
sinnedSynaptic didn't install it to the gnome menu :/04:18
sn0njust so i dont end up having to wait 10 minutes for 100+ mb's every now and then04:19
[Spooky] im about to set up a ftp-serv for a friend as a backup unit for him... what are my responsibilties ?04:19
sn0n[Spooky] , vsftpd is nice04:19
Madpilotwalter: the update thing - little red thing in the notification panel - will come up when you need to update...04:19
sinnedAnyone here run Synergy04:19
Madpilotodat: never heard of S3...sorry04:19
magnetoproblem- via 8235 - I can control sound inside of applications but cant adjust sound through the gnome-volume-control except to mute via pcm - i have asounrc setup etc - this hasnt worked since install the other day- any ideas?04:19
tgasinned, iirc you have to run the synergy tools from a terminal.. there is no gui to them04:19
sinnedHmm04:20
sinnedHow do I do that?04:20
sinnedlike what command?04:20
odatsly: you know of a way i can fix it?04:20
magnetopossible gnome permission settings???04:20
slyS3 have porr drivers................. i gave up hope with s3 on my laptop04:20
tgasinned, like synergyc and synergys04:20
lewwytype synergy and bash tab04:20
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Madpilotsinned: try "synergy" at a command prompt?04:20
sinneddid04:20
sinnedDid nothing04:20
lewwyhmmm04:20
sorush20how do I get gnome to work again it keeps on crashing before I'm able to login fully04:21
lewwyyou should have synergyc and synergys04:21
tgasinned: there is a server and a client04:21
sinnedYeah04:21
sinnedI have the server running04:21
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tgasinned, man synergyc then04:21
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sinnedk04:22
sn0nis gnome 2.12 in universe ?  or is there a decent 2.12 repo for hoary ?04:22
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odatwell is there a command i can use to enable the drivers?04:22
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matthew_wWhat's a decent DVD+/-R Writer with an X11 frontend?04:23
sorush20If i'm sharing my music files on gnutella can someone find my IP and locate me .. and sue me..04:23
lewwymatthew_w, probably k3b if you have kde installed04:23
tgamatthew_w, k3b (for kde)04:23
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walterthats all well and good Madpilot but i have 72 packages available04:23
naliothsorush20: yes04:23
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walter:)04:23
lewwytga, great minds think alike, fools minds seldom differ04:23
matthew_wUnfortunately I'm running Gnome, and I don't know if I want to use like 400 extra MB's for a program x-x04:23
sorush20matthew_w: did you tey k3b... install it from synaptic..04:23
tgaI'd still like to have a gtk k3b04:23
sn0nanyone use liferea (and has it running right now, for more then a couple hrs)04:23
Madpilotwalter: then it's been a while since you updated, I'm guessing?04:24
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parktownprawngnomebaker is ok cd/dvd software04:24
walterthis is my first day04:24
matthew_wgnomebaker?04:24
matthew_wAvail thru synaptic?04:24
sn0nmatthew_w, its the gnome k3b04:24
sorush20nalioth is there a way I can fake my IP address.. I am on a home network..04:24
walterbut i did open extra reps04:24
tgawhat image catalog apps do you guys use?04:24
naliothsorush20: that is not a topic for this channel04:24
sn0nmatthew_w, to burn audio and data CD / DVD's04:24
tgasorush20, no04:24
sn0ntga, gthumb04:24
sn0nsorush20, use a proxy04:25
parktownprawni think gnomebaker is in universe04:25
matthew_wsn0n; ... what if I want to burn say... a video DVD... like.. A movie that I *wink wink* DIDN'T *wink* download off of the internet.04:25
sn0nhehe04:25
Madpilottga: gThumb is great - it even talks to digital cameras04:25
lewwy*Sigh*04:25
jangamatthew_w: try graveman, its better than gnomebaker04:25
sn0ni believe it does video dvds also.. aint sure.. google around a bit04:25
sorush20sn0n: really how will that help?04:25
sn0n"dvd authoring linux"04:26
tgaI'm looking at gThumb vs F-spot atm04:26
matthew_wI have graveman... I just don't know if it will burn video to the DVD's janga04:26
sn0nF-Spot is mono isnt it ?04:26
tgaa merge would be nice.. something like picasa04:26
tgasn0n, indeed it is04:26
sn0nmmm.. i LOVE picasa04:26
sn0nand hello also04:26
sn0nhello KICKS ASS04:26
XenguyNow that we need to 'identify' our nick before being allowed to /join ubuntu, does anyone know a way that I can automate the identify with irssi, instead of having to do it manually each time?04:26
sinnedtga can you help me get synergy running?04:26
tgahello is the easiest way to share pics with clueless people04:26
sn0nXenguy, man irssi04:26
DgIy0is there any way someone can walk me through the installation of my UBUNTU for power PC on my old G3??? I never touched a mac in my entire life and someone just gave me this G3 with 256Mb of ram and a 20Gb HD... the deal is i hate the operating system and i'd love to have ubuntu running on it... but i have no clue how to make this bootX work...04:26
naliothXenguy: there is a explanation for irssi on it's home page04:26
sn0nif your using irssi , you should know how to use man.. lol04:26
tgasinned, I can try.. what are you trying to do?04:27
Xenguysn0n: you are kidding right?04:27
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sinnedI have the server running and on the client pc...I'm running synergyc 192.168.1.102 and its not working04:27
Xenguynalioth: OK, will RTFM04:27
lewwydoes anyone here know much about wine and steam?04:27
sn0nXenguy, why you even using irssi if you dont know its config files? .. so no.. im not kidding04:27
mwright1matthew_w?04:27
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Xenguysn0n: go away04:27
jangamatthew_w: there is a nero for linux available. dl the demo04:27
tgasinned, what OS is the server running on?04:27
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sn0nXenguy, your the one that asked the question. ;-)04:27
mwright1same firstname and initials as me hehe04:27
sinnedUbuntu04:27
matthew_wjanga; will graveman burn DVD video?04:27
matthew_wmwright1; yes?04:27
tgasinned, did you configure the server before running it?04:27
naliothDgIy0: there is a nice walkthrough here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs04:27
Xenguysn0n: yeah, looking for a quick tip is all :P04:27
sinnedno :/04:27
sinnedDidn't know you had to :/04:28
sn0nnothings faster then man04:28
sn0n;-)04:28
tgasinned, there you have it04:28
DgIy0THANKS nalioth04:28
jangamatthew_w: i didnt try, but i dont think so04:28
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sn0nhehe04:28
kevogodsn0n, woman <topic>04:28
matthew_wjanga; would the nero CD I have that came with my writer have the linux version?04:28
slydoubtful04:28
sn0nwow.. irssi has a crappy man file04:29
sn0nlol04:29
slyi just keep poping up04:29
tgasinned, man synergys.. you have to create a synergys.conf04:29
sinnedhmm04:29
sinnedokay04:29
tgasinned, in it you set up the screens and the hosts04:29
odathmm not sure how to track down this problem my screen redraws are painfully slow04:29
odatdamn it04:29
odatergghhh04:29
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naliothXenguy: it's gonna take a config editing session04:29
tgasinned, then from what I remember the other host must be added to /etc/host and refered by name04:29
sn0nodat,  use the correct drivers  for your hardware ?04:29
jangamatthew_w: i think you are allowed to use the windows serial with nero linux.04:29
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sinnedhmm04:29
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sinnedokay04:29
sinnedThanks04:29
sn0nahh.. i gotta get goin.. bbl all04:29
slyooooooo the joys of s3 drivers odat04:29
tgaiirc they don't even sell the linux nero, you must have a windows serial04:30
matthew_wjanga; woot04:30
mwright1is there a nero for linux?04:30
Agrajagyes04:30
Xenguynalioth: how do you mean?04:30
odatsly: well it says i have the a bunch of s3 drivers installed but if they aren't doing anything whats the poing04:30
odatpoint04:30
geneo93i need some help with tape drive04:31
mwright1anyone with a tape drive needs help04:31
slysounds identical to my old thinkpad lappy :)04:31
slyi gaveup04:31
jangamwright1: yes but its gtk1 :(04:31
naliothXenguy: irssi requires a knowledge of many variables that it uses for optimal effect04:31
naliothXenguy: the irssi homepage has a few tricks and stuff04:31
matthew_wAlright - getting that now.04:31
matthew_wNero linux that is.04:32
mwright1nero is gtk+04:32
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mwright1whats wrong with that04:32
matthew_wOn another note - what's a decent game for linux.  I don't want to go through the brain searing trouble of installing cedega just yet...04:32
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wastreli am fond of nethack04:32
tgamatthew_w, enemy territory04:32
Xenguynalioth: I'm up to the challenge, if no one is prepared to serve it on a silver platter ;-)04:32
tgago nethack!04:32
chavoenemy territory04:32
wastrelmoon-buggy is amusing04:32
matthew_wlol04:32
slyfrozen-bubble !!!04:32
matthew_wmoon-buggy04:32
matthew_wHow does nethack work?04:32
chavofrozen-bubble rocks!04:33
naliothXenguy: nothing the rest of us havent done (no irssi comes the way we use it)04:33
geneo93freecraft04:33
tgayou push keys and it does stuff04:33
wastrelmatthew_w, ever played rogue?04:33
matthew_w... can't say I have.04:33
tgaomg moon-buggy is so cool04:33
Xenguynalioth: aye, been there indeed04:33
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matthew_wIt's funny - the web pages <title> is Download Nero Linux Trial Version, and in the middle of the page in big red letters it says04:34
matthew_wImportant notice:04:34
matthew_wThis is NOT a trial version!04:34
slyi might have to try moon buggy now04:34
slywhats name of that ball game04:34
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wastreltelnet to nethack.alt.org if you want to check out nethack04:34
kevogodsly, neverball04:34
slyyeh thats the one04:34
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walteris there any websties with a list of games that are ported to linux04:34
slyits 3:35am . ima play that till least 504:34
whyameyeI have Windows Media Player 6.4 and 7.0 running under Wine. Any way to add codecs to these? Also, how can I change the file associations in Wine?04:34
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naliothwhyameye: to my knowledge, wmp updates itself as needed04:35
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whyameyenalioth, it's not finding codecs I need to play videos off of my digital camera.04:35
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pepsiubuntu does not use inetd?04:35
matthew_wWhat's enemy territory like, and where do I get it?04:36
naliothwhyameye: why dont you import your videos and use a linux media player?04:36
chavomatthew_w, it started out as an addition to castle wolfestein04:36
tganooo.. my buuuggy!04:36
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whyameyenalioth, that would be fine, except I don't think anything I've found touches Google's Picasa2, so that's what I want to use for my pics. I run that under Wine. Problem is, it tries to use WMP for the videos...04:37
slysnes roms are the way forward04:37
tgapepsi, yes it does04:37
matthew_wI have so many snes roms I can't walk.04:37
chavomatthew_w, it's free and linux native04:37
Serpentwolfhi guys, how does one install java jdk on ubuntu ?04:37
tgapicasa is pretty nice04:37
matthew_wchavo - and I assume widely played?04:37
matthew_wflightgear = cool04:37
chavomatthew_w, yes04:37
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naliothwhyameye: i'd try to get a more modern version of wmp running04:37
whyameyenalioth, now what would be *cool* is if I could change the file associations in Wine so Picasa2 runs xine for the videos. But that seems unlikely to work...04:37
=== tga would like an open format for media libraries
whyameyenalioth, will wine run anything newer? I tried 10.0 and couldn't get it to work...04:38
Sonny_Wertzikhello.04:38
bimberi!tell Serpentwolf about java04:38
pepsitga, how can i get ident to work?04:38
naliothwhyameye: you might also want to give cedega-cvs a run04:38
Serpentwolfthanks04:38
tgapepsi, it should already be working.. what are you trying to do?04:38
chavoI just got done playing a little and will be playing again in  a little bit04:38
bimberiyw :)04:38
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pepsitga, get it to start when i bootup04:39
pepsibrb04:39
matthew_wWhat does it mean when dpkg returns "status database area is locked by another process"04:39
whyameyenalioth, what's cedega-cvs?04:39
tgadoesn't inetd start by default?04:39
bimberimatthew_w: that you're running synaptic04:39
matthew_wOh04:39
matthew_wlol04:39
matthew_wSo it does04:39
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naliothwhyameye: cedega is a commecial version of wine, cedega-cvs is the freely available (no support) version we can use04:39
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tgalong live the gpl04:39
whyameyenalioth, good to know. I'll check it out!04:40
pepsitga, i installed the ident2 package because i couldnt figure out how else to make it work, but i have to start ident2 by hand each time i startup04:40
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Logi_does anyone know how to enable AllowOverride for apache2?04:40
chavomatthew_w, http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.html04:40
adoyretsamonyeah, for tuxracer04:40
adoyretsamonhehe04:40
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adoyretsamongreat game04:40
tgapepsi, are you sure identd doesn't already start at bootup?04:40
pepsiyes04:40
tgapepsi, ps aux |grep inetd04:40
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pepsitga, nothing04:40
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Logi_i did <Directory /var/www> \n AllowOverride all \n </Directory> and it doesn't work04:41
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wastrelhmm, why do the gnome print dialogs suck so much04:41
wastrelthey made them user friendly by taking out all the options and now they're useless04:41
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tgapepsi, I'm thinking maybe your /etc/inetd.conf is bad or something04:41
slygmmmmmmm04:42
pepsitga, inetd doesnt exist04:42
pepsishouldnt it be in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?04:42
slymy about:plugins in firefox returns no java, but it was there just half hour ago when i was playing yahoo pool04:42
tga/usr/sbin/inetd04:42
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tgathe pool table ate your java04:43
pepsitga,... right... doesnt exist... im using breezy btw :)04:43
tgapepsi, do you have an xinetd?04:43
slyyeh i got raped of my hava, from the guy who beat me04:43
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pepsino i dont04:43
tgapepsi, in any case, to make something start at bootup you use update-rc.d04:43
pepsiok04:44
tgapepsi, update-rc.d inetd defaults04:44
Logi_anyone know?04:44
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weijie90hi04:44
weijie90how do i add TTF fonts?04:44
walterwhen apt get downloads the files will it delete them after there installed and you dont need the archive anymore04:44
matthew_wWell04:45
chavoweijie90, mkdir ~/.fonts -> cp font.ttf ~/.fonts04:45
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odatso anyone have any idea about getting the graphics chip doing what it should?04:45
chavounless you want them system wide04:45
matthew_wNero for linux didn't accept my Nero 5.0 deluxe key :O  which I bought a week before I switched from m$04:45
matthew_wSo I feel justified in borrowing someone elses.  *cough* ...  Now where do I get enemy territory?04:45
tgaNB_Ubuntu, apt-get install nvtv04:45
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weijie90so will xfce or any x11 window manager like icewm detect ~/fonts?04:45
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naliothmatthew_w: why use nero when k3b perfectly usable?04:46
slynvtv dont like me either, says unsurported chip04:46
tgaweijie90, that's where the X server looks, it has nothing to do with the window manager04:46
naliothweijie90: your system will see your ~/.fonts04:46
chavoweijie90, yes, but only for you not any other users04:46
weijie90ic04:46
matthew_wDVD video burning, with menus, etc. etc.     Plus, I paid for it, and now I can't use it, so why not?  lol04:46
weijie90thanks!04:46
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chavosure04:46
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jangaweijie90: easier way: fonts:/// in nautilus04:46
naliothmatthew_w: if you paid, then you should call nero and ask them why it doesnt work04:46
chavowhich reminds me, I'm gonna clean up my .fonts04:46
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matthew_wnalioth - I know why, I bought nero 5.0 from the store up the road, it wants nero 6.0... I'm not going to buy another 40 dollar burning program x-x04:47
=== IcemanV9 wonders if there is ffl application available for ubuntu?
tgamatthew_w, call nero and ask about an upgrade04:47
NB_Ubuntutga, it says it can't find the package nvtv04:47
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chavocool there's a fonts:/ in konqueror also04:47
vuWhat filesystem is this: W95 Ext'd (LBA)?04:47
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tgaNB_Ubuntu, it's probably in the universe repository04:47
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naliothmatthew_w: then dvdauthor + k3b may be for you04:48
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runelindprobably been asked a million time, but is the new gnome in ubuntu yet?04:48
chavobut browsing .fonts with konq gives you thumbnails04:48
daggieHeh just about to ask meself runelind04:48
paul_hello ya'll04:48
tgavu, fat32 maybe04:48
matthew_wnalioth - I can't for the life of me figure out dvdauthor ... :(04:48
ficusplanetrunelind, In Breezy, yes.  The preview will be out tomorrow.04:48
matthew_wI have graveman, but it doesn't seem to do DVD videos.04:48
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runelindficusplanet: oh the agonizing wait!04:48
IcemanV9runelind, daggie: million times yes ;)04:48
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tgahow traumatic will upgrading to breezy be when it comes out?04:49
paul_how do I load video on ubuntu04:49
daggieicemanv9, heh no joke. Just curious if it is worth upgrading to the new gnome. Or something simply to be left to a clean install.04:49
ficusplanetrunelind, You can use it right now if you're that anxious.  I've been using Breezy for a few weeks without issue.04:50
geneo93gnome 2.12 is in breezy04:50
vutga,   Hmm...I compiled the kernel with ntfs and vfat support. It does not somehow recognise: --> mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat32'04:50
tgaimho it's not worth messing up your system just to get the new gnome 2 days early04:50
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tgavu, there is no vfat32.. check your /etc/fstab04:50
IcemanV9daggie: if you see the video tour of gnome 2.12, then you'll LOVE it! :)04:50
daggievu, I thought something had to be either vfat or fat3204:50
geneo93fat3204:50
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daggieicemanv9, then to google I go.04:50
wastrelIcemanV9, are the print dialogs less sucky?04:50
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regeyagnome2, now with fewer features?04:51
IcemanV9er, daggie, not video .. very nice tour04:51
ngmlinux_can someone help me set up an apt-get repository04:51
NB_Ubuntutga, I tried updateing after enabling universe, however it's not able to find a package04:51
IcemanV9sorry. i was workin' on the video here. heh04:51
occyanyone here know about wireless security stuff?  And don't mind helping me with securing my setup?04:51
matthew_wIs there any way to write DVD video with chapter selection etc. with graveman and dvdauthor?04:51
daggieicemanv9, yeah saw that. looks good. I hope nautilous is less sucky now.04:51
occyOr have a "Wireless for Dummies" howto link somewhere?04:51
IcemanV9wastrel: i don't remember about the print part04:51
vudaggie,  Haha nice one wait lemme c04:51
tgaNB_Ubuntu, Section: universe/admin04:52
jcd1006how do you add the extentions on to firefox?04:52
ngmlinux_wireless is not really supported on ubuntu04:52
runelindwireless is a fad anyways04:52
occyngmlinux_, heh, I'm using wireless right now.04:52
runelindpeople don't want to be free from wires04:52
daggiewireless? I am using it right now.04:52
runelindthey want to be tethered down and restricted04:52
IcemanV9ngmlinux_: yes it is ... only if you check the wiki page for supported wifi cards04:52
occyanyway...04:52
ngmlinux_yeah exactly "supporte dcards'04:52
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regeyasomeday regular gcc will have regular objective-c++.  then we can get apps like camino going.04:52
ngmlinux_anyone??04:53
ngmlinux_apt-get ?04:53
occyI need to find a "Wireless networking security for Moron's howto" or some sort of thing.04:53
IcemanV9mine is dwl-g65004:53
ngmlinux_anyone have a year or two experience wiht apt-get?04:53
regeyadude, it's on my resume, ngmlinux_04:53
kevogodapt-get rules.04:53
NB_Ubuntutga, what am I suppost to change now? I'm kind of a newbie to linux04:53
ngmlinux_regeya, can you pm me for a minutes04:53
ngmlinux_i have some apt-get questions04:53
regeyajust ask your question in-channel ngmlinux_04:53
ngmlinux_i just had having to scroll back and fourth regeya04:54
tgaNB_Ubuntu, if you have the universe repository added to your list and you update you should be able to get nvtv04:54
ngmlinux_but alright,04:54
runelindoh the slowness of the breezy download04:54
regeyamuh muh muh meh mih moh muh.04:54
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tgaNautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems04:54
ngmlinux_regeya: go to http://www.scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/1.0/doc/installdoc.html#AEN3204:54
tgaw00t, new revolutionary spatialness popularised in.. the original Mac?04:54
ngmlinux_and look at 2.2.104:54
ngmlinux_regeya04:54
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NB_Ubuntutga, when I try to update it complains about a file missing04:55
regeyarofflecopters04:55
jcd1006can anyone tell me how to download and install extentions in firefox?04:55
tgaNB_Ubuntu, what file?04:55
ngmlinux_regeya, it says add deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./04:55
NB_Ubuntutga, sources.list04:55
ngmlinux_to sources.list04:55
ngmlinux_regeya04:55
daggietga, I am more happy with the ``over 200 bug fixes''04:55
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tgaNB_Ubuntu, are you running hoary? sounds like there's something wrong with your apt04:56
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ngmlinux_regeya, i have AMD64 not i386, i know where the AMD64 repository is, but not how ot set it to work, i get an error when I apt-get install scratchbox and  i don't know how to fix it04:56
IcemanV9oy! breezy-livecd is little bit larger than 650mb now :(04:56
regeyaoi.  I dinnae laddie04:56
daggieWow... did they really dump firefox as default browser?04:56
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wastrelthey did that a while ago04:57
regeyano way daggie...seriously?04:57
ngmlinux_regeya, do you think that is something you might be able to help wiht?04:57
wastrelfor that gnome browser04:57
regeyaoi.  i dinnae laddie ngmlinux_04:57
IcemanV9daggie: what's the default browser now?04:57
NB_Ubuntutga, I'm running hoary04:57
ngmlinux_regeya: ?04:57
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regeyadon't know ngmlinux_, sorry04:57
tgaNB_Ubuntu, what do you get when you run `sudo apt-get update` in a terminal?04:58
daggieicemanv9,regeya, uhh epiphany??04:58
ngmlinux_does anyone else know how ot use apt-get?04:58
luckyabaim installing ubuntu on another compter and am getting a base system error from bootstrap04:58
luckyabaany ideas?04:58
matthew_wWhy is it that when I copy my futurama season 1 disc, it only uses 1.4 gb.. when theres like 4.7 on a DVD?  Is that a problem w/ nero?04:58
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NB_Ubuntuok, I'm going to paste exactly what I get04:58
NB_UbuntuErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages04:58
NB_Ubuntu  302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 04:58
NB_UbuntuFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 04:58
daggieregeya, I have never heard of it. <3 firefox04:58
CCFIELhello. what is lighter browser firefox or opera?04:58
ngmlinux_root@localhost:~/downloaded-packages# apt-get install scratchbox-core04:59
ngmlinux_Reading package lists... Done04:59
ngmlinux_Building dependency tree... Done04:59
ngmlinux_E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core04:59
tgaNB_Ubuntu, sounds like there's a problem with your mirror04:59
regeyaepiphany is the official gnome web browser04:59
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IcemanV9yea, epiphany is the default web browser for the gnome .. guess they'll use it then04:59
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Will^Draven<3 firefox04:59
ngmlinux_E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core04:59
ngmlinux_E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core04:59
naliothngmlinux_: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic04:59
yonkeltronhi guys i am having some trouble burning CDs with k3b and cdrecord04:59
tomasinoanybody there?04:59
ngmlinux_E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core04:59
naliothNB_Ubuntu: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic05:00
jcd1006can someone please let me know how to install the extensions on firefox...when i go to the site and try it that way it says that i have to have an up to date version, its the most recent that ubuntu would download, anyone able to help?05:00
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regeyaE: I don't like spam05:00
Logi_anyone here good with apache?05:00
ngmlinux_can some one please explain apt-get to me?05:00
tomasinoCan anyone help with seting up a file share between a Sin XP and Ubuntu????05:00
tgaLogi_, try #apache05:00
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daggieLogi_, #apache will most likely be your best bet.05:00
nalioth!tell ngmlinux_ about synaptic05:00
ngmlinux_i've been trying to figure it out for a few days05:00
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Logi_tga / daggie no one is answering05:00
tomasinoWin Xp and Ubuntu05:00
ngmlinux_!tell nalioth synapic does not support the app i want ot install05:01
tomasinoApache you say?05:01
tgaNB_Ubuntu, try replacing 'us' with 'ca' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then update05:01
naliothngmlinux_: what exactly do you want to do/install?05:01
tomasinoWasn't it supposed to be Samba??05:01
froggy25how do you install pearpc05:01
froggy25and how do you get it to work05:01
ngmlinux_nalioth, can you pm me where it's eaiser to read?05:01
daggielogi_, just supply a detailed description of the problem. They will get back to you.05:01
ngmlinux_this text moves too fast05:01
froggy25i have mac os x 10.4 tiger05:01
froggy25and i want to try it out on here05:01
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froggy25but i dont know what to do to get started05:02
dabaRfroggy25: well, its in official repositories, so you can use your install program to install it. How it works, I have no clue, I just heard of it for the first time now.05:02
sinnedanyone here run synergy?05:02
tgaeverbody wait until ngmlinux_'s done reading, mmkay?05:02
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tgasinned, no luck with synergys?05:02
brentdaxI have an Ubuntu laptop (x86) and an Ubuntu desktop (AMD64).  Can I get sound on the laptop to play through the desktop's speakers, preferably with an easy way to turn this off when I'm not near my desktop?  (I think all the sound apps I care about play nicely with esd.)05:02
sinnedI don't get how to setup the config file05:02
sinnedLike what to put05:02
tgasinned, paste your synergys.conf in #flood05:03
matthew_wOk here's a good question...05:03
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sinnedI don't have one yet05:03
sinnedI'm trying to write one05:03
matthew_wHow in the name of GOD do I make a DVD menu?  Like.. something that shows the chapters.05:03
sinnedbUt don't know what to include05:03
tgasinned, I'll take a look05:03
sinnedI was looking for like a sample config05:03
sinnedor if someone had one that could show me05:03
tgaI don't have mine handy05:03
sinned:(05:03
IcemanV9on which player, matthew_w ??05:04
IcemanV9try to right-click on the screen/picture05:05
tgasinned, synergys.conf looks really easy05:05
jcd1006anyone in here know much about unix?05:05
matthew_wIcemanV9;  I'm using Nero for Linux... I just need to create that menu like.. you know "select episode" kinda stuff05:05
tgasinned, I'll give you a hand in private if you want05:05
sinnedk05:05
tgajcd1006, what's that?05:05
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slylol @ tga :)05:06
hmrochahello05:06
chavosinned, I paste my .synergy.conf in #flood05:06
slyim still chasing that pool table for my java back05:06
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sinnedpost again chavo05:06
hmrochai think i'll have a lot of trouble with ubuntu...05:06
IcemanV9oh! burn dvd stuff. it is over my head since i don't own dvd-burner. sorry.05:06
naliothtritium: really? unix sounds like my old housemaids name05:06
hmrocha...do you know how to change the settings for the audio and video groups?05:06
hmrochai mean...05:06
chavothere05:06
IcemanV9thought you were talking about playing DVD movie05:06
tgahmrocha, why would you want to change them?05:07
matthew_whehe05:07
matthew_wit's ok05:07
hmrochatga, all my users are only available through AD05:07
tritiumnalioth, was your main a castrated man?05:07
tritiums/main/maid05:07
tgaeuh, AD05:07
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naliothah, well eunice is close to unix05:07
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Vaske_CarHow to enlarge windows??? I use high resolution and all windows are small..   ???05:07
hmrochathey belong to the group "students"05:07
chavosynergy is awesome, I use it on Windows and Linux on both computers05:08
hmrochaand i want them to be able to listen to mp3 and watch videos05:08
tgayeah, the clipboard sharing is cool05:08
hmrochabut since they're not in the audio/video groups, they can't05:08
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KyralVaske_Car, the same way you do in Windows..05:08
jcd1006how do you install programs, such as firefox 1.06?05:08
tritiumbimberi, :)05:09
hmrochai want to change system settings to say that all users in "students" are the ones that can access audio05:09
Madpilot!tell jcd1006 about synaptic05:09
hmrochasomething like that05:09
Kyralubotu tell jcd1006 about repos05:09
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bimberitritium: might only be you and me though :)05:09
tgahmm can you add a group to another group?05:09
hmrochatga, not possible in unix05:09
tritiumbimberi, you never know...05:09
tgathought so05:09
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Vaske_CarKyral: its not like in Windows...05:10
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Vaske_Caror i dont see it05:10
hmrochatga, do me a favor please...05:10
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hmrochatga, ls -l /dev/dsp05:10
Sly-Sleeptakecare05:10
tgahmrocha, you could just chown students /dev/<sound stuff>05:10
sn0nallo all05:10
hmrochatga, give me the output please (i don't have a sound card here05:10
tgacrw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-09-07 17:05 /dev/dsp05:10
hmrochatga, that's what i was thinking about :)05:10
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tgaif you can't bring the students to the group05:10
tga..bring the group to the students05:11
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tgaor something05:11
sn0nanyone here a firefox pro ?05:11
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hmrochatga, great!!! chown root:students /dev/dsp should work05:11
tgayep05:11
hmrochawhat about video?05:11
hmrochawhat's the device?05:11
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tgahmm.. I don't think there's a video device05:12
hmrochatga, strange, there's a video group05:12
tritiumyep05:13
jcd1006ok, now that i have firefox 1.06 installed how do i do the extensions?05:13
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naliothjcd1006: they should install themselves from mozilla's extension page05:14
tgahmrocha, I've got /dev/agpart, raw1394 and card0 under video05:14
Vaske_Carawww niceee  resolution 1400by1050 refresha rate 85Hz  :)05:14
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hmrochatga, ok, thanks very much, i'll write that down05:14
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tgahmrocha, I think you only need to be in group video if you do 3d accel, but I might be wrong05:15
tritiumthat's right, tga05:15
sn0nhow do i become a package maintainer ?05:15
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hmrochatga, i do 3d accel, students want cool screensavers05:15
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sn0nthere are a few things i believe should be in , but arent05:15
hmrocha:)05:15
emtrixfollowing a string from ubuntu support-forum, tells me to cmd in terminal: "sudo m-a".. m-a?? this command gives me this: "sudo: m-a: command not found"05:15
naliothsn0n: read the wiki or ask in #ubuntu-motu05:16
sn0nmotu ?05:16
linnerhey ya'll... how's it hangin'?05:16
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adoyretsamonbreezy05:17
jcd1006nalioth: it says that i appear to be using firefox in ubuntu and that he had a bug that has been fixed but i have to do "Setting general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in about:config seems to let me access addons.mozilla.org"  which i don't know how to do05:17
bimberisn0n: masters of the universe :)05:17
adoyretsamonlinner, seems breezy to me05:17
sn0nmmm05:17
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Vaske_Cardoes anybody know how to setup player to play streams when I click on the link?05:17
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naliothjcd1006: hang on a minute05:17
Vaske_Carlink*05:17
jcd1006ok, thanks05:17
jcd1006nalioth: ok, thanks05:17
sn0nbut i'd like my packages to have the pretty ubunut logo and in the main repo's05:17
sn0nnot the ones people have to 'add'05:17
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sn0nits just silly how a 'desktop' based distro has apache, but no RSS Readers.. ya kno..05:18
Madpilotsn0n: isn't Blam in Hoary?05:18
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naliothjcd1006: in your firefox address bar, paste "about:config" and find the line you just pasted to me (the vendorSub part). change that value to 1.0.405:18
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kevogodI use Sage in Firefox05:19
scanwinderwhen i try to setup wine, it says its detected its been run as super user...................but thats when i run it as normal user..............anyone else come across this?05:19
sn0nisnt blam mono based ?05:19
NoHopeGnome 2.12 is released!05:19
sn0naka : blam wouldnt be05:19
NoHopeDo you know when will it be in repos?05:19
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sn0nNoHope, its already in breezy im sure05:19
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geneo93NoHope:  its in breezy05:20
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Madpilotsn0n: Blam is in Universe; same repo as Apache/Apache2, FWIW...05:20
NoHopegeneo93, sn0n, no Hoary? Is it better to wait stable Breezy?05:20
NB_Ubuntuso where should I point sources.list to try to get nvtv to download properly?05:20
froggy25how do you set up pearpc05:20
jcd1006nalioth:  it gave me "XML Parsing Error: syntax error05:20
jcd1006Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul Line Number 1, Column 7:"05:20
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geneo93NoHope:  i have breezy here and its quite stable for me05:20
sn0nbut what im sayin.. is that a regular user shouldn't have to 'add' repos.. things like Liferea and other general use things should be able to be added without 'hacking at configs'05:20
naliothjcd1006: just "about:config" without the quote marks05:20
NoHopegeneo93, how to download it? apt-get dist-upgrade?05:20
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jcd1006nalioth: thats what i did05:21
ficusplanetsn0n, In Breezy, universe and multiverse are automatically added if you try to install an app from them in gnome-app-install.05:21
geneo93NoHope:  change repos to breezy05:21
sn0nahh..05:21
ficusplanetsn0n, And in hoary, you can add the repos in synaptic.05:21
ficusplanet(by just checking a few boxes)05:21
naliothjcd1006: then i'm lost at this point05:21
thoreauputicsn0n: canonical can't be expected to support 16 000 or so packages05:21
sn0nficusplanet, i know you can add it.. but it should be 'automagically' dont05:21
sn0ndone*05:21
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sn0nthoreauputic, thats why i asked how to become a maintainer05:22
NoHopegeneo93, just s/hoary/breezy in sources.list?05:22
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thoreauputicsn0n: fair enough :)05:22
jcd1006nalioth: ok, well thanks for trying05:22
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jcd1006can anyone help me with firefox extensions?05:22
linnerhey ya'll05:22
sn0ni'll gladly keep liferea updated, if it gets added to the main repo's like things like it should be05:22
linnerhow goes it?05:22
geneo93NoHope:  that should work also05:22
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NoHopegeneo93, and what?05:23
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wickedpuppyanyone ever got error while booting like "Kernel Panic , init not found" ??? I passed init=/init to kernel but still having this error05:23
linnerThoreauputic:  your help last night allowed me to do my first install and for that I wanted to tell you how greatful I really am... thank you!05:23
NoHopegeneo93, will apt-get upgrade work?05:23
tritiumthoreauputic rocks05:23
linnerwhy yes he does05:23
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thoreauputiclinner: great! You're welcome :)05:23
wickedpuppyNoHope, isn't it apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:23
linner:)05:23
NoHopewickedpuppy, oh yap. thx.05:23
geneo93NoHope:  just do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade05:23
wickedpuppy:P05:23
Vaske_CarI cant get RealPlayer....  windsor@zmaj:~$ sudo apt-get install realplayer05:24
Vaske_CarPassword:05:24
Vaske_CarReading package lists... Done05:24
Vaske_CarBuilding dependency tree... Done05:24
Vaske_CarE: Couldn't find package realplayer05:24
Vaske_Carwindsor@zmaj:~$05:24
sn0nVaske_Car, look for Helix05:24
sn0nVaske_Car, or HelixPlayer05:24
NoHopewickedpuppy, geneo93, Ubuntu is wonderful. I don't need to format my partition again ;) thx.05:24
regeyawait wait wait...clearlooks is listed as a new gnome feature?05:24
dabaRVaske_Car: youre serbian, right?05:24
Vaske_Carcan it play streams?05:24
Vaske_Caryes05:24
Madpilot!tell Vaske_Car about repos05:24
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wickedpuppyhaaaa05:24
sn0nVaske_Car, Helixplayer is the RealPlayer's linux / unix community project05:25
dabaRcool, Im originally from beograd, and then I lived in Zagreb for a while.05:25
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thoreauputicoops05:25
sn0nVaske_Car, so.. yes05:25
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Vaske_Carjust a sec05:25
regeyaand a feature borrowed from mac classic is a great new feature?05:25
sn0nhelixcommunity.org i believe05:25
scanwinderwhy does WineSetupTk say its been run as superuser when ive run it as normal user???05:25
sn0nyeah05:25
sn0nhttps://helixcommunity.org/05:25
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geneo93thoreauputic:  how can i use my tape drive dmesg  says its there but  lsmod doesn't05:26
dabaRscanwinder: cause you are really a superuser, and you dont even know it/are too modest...05:26
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scanwinderdabaR: i definantley did it as a normal user05:26
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crimsunngmlinux_: please paste the entire error message onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:27
crimsunwalter: cat /proc/asound/version05:27
walterwb05:27
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thoreauputicgeneo93: sorry - never used a tape drive in my life :|05:28
walterAdvanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8.05:28
walterCompiled on Sep  8 2005 for kernel 2.6.10-5-386.05:28
sn0nthoreauputic, never?05:28
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thoreauputicsn0n: nope05:28
sn0nthoreauputic, man.. i was using them ina 6th grade class.. back in like 93ish..05:28
sn0nbut even then they were a lil dated05:29
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sn0nhad some fun games thou.. i tell ya..05:29
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crimsunwalter: please paste the contents of /proc/asound onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:29
thoreauputicsn0n: I'm not an IT person - using linux for a few years is all05:29
sn0nunless you mean the 'current' backup tape drives05:29
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sn0ni used them in 6th grade to play games.. LoL.. i was a teachers pet..:-D05:29
NoHopesome problem to dist-upgrade with X opened and running?05:30
scanwindercan you order ubuntu breezy cd's yet?05:30
geneo93sn0n:  i talking about a seagate 8 gig drive05:30
scanwinderor is the order thing just hoary?05:30
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sn0nNoHope, there will be a couple panel errors.. but nothing bad05:30
thoreauputicsn0n: I have , however, used punch cards ;-)05:30
NoHopesn0n,  good, thx.05:30
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walterit doesnt exist that folder05:31
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geneo93thoreauputic:  you mean tabulator cards05:31
phayze2does anyone know how to use SSH?05:31
crimsunwalter: /proc/asound has many contents05:31
crimsunphayze2: ssh user@host05:31
scanwinderwhen you use the shipit thing on the ubuntu website, will that send out hoary or breezy cd's05:31
scanwinder?05:31
crimsunscanwinder: breezy if you order after breezy's release05:32
thoreauputicgeneo93: on an IBM mainframe at university long ago - IBM 360 from memory05:32
phayze2crimsun: i'm already on my university's server, i just want to know how to copy my file onto my user account at the university's server05:32
phayze2er if that makes sense05:32
matthew_wHow can I get ubuntu to accept libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 and libwxgtk 2.4.3.1 ?05:32
scanwindercrimsun: when is breezy going to be released?05:32
crimsunphayze2: not really, you need to clarify where your file resides05:32
msfrankscanwinder: no breezy for another month05:32
crimsunscanwinder: october05:32
scanwindercrimsun: thanks05:32
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crimsunmatthew_w: you don't, because that will break things05:32
geneo93oct 13th05:32
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matthew_wcrimsun; err... well, how do I get this program to install - dependencies and whatnot?05:33
crimsunphayze2: please keep in-channel05:33
NB_UbuntuI didn't see if anyone responded to my question about a good deb line for hoary universe..05:33
crimsunNB_Ubuntu: same line as for main but add universe05:33
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phayze2k05:34
matthew_wcrimsun; it's DVDStyler05:34
crimsunmatthew_w: and from where are you attempting to install it?05:34
NB_Ubuntucrimsun, the only one it has that isn't commented out is to get it from the cdrom05:34
flankkI have a box here where the audio chipset doesn't work, and wasn't detected.  I have tried compiling alsa in the past to no avail.  The chipset is onboard and not faulty.  The chip is old, not PnP compatible, and there is no related options in the BIOS.  Help?05:34
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matthew_wcrimsun; it's a .deb.  The problem is ubuntu apparently doesn't like it...05:35
msfrankflankk: what is the chipset?05:35
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crimsunNB_Ubuntu: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe05:36
daveb_Hello, I accidentally put an error into my sudoers file and can no longer use the sudo commands. Is there a way I can fix this and not have to reinstall?05:36
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bimberidaveb_: yes, you have to boot into recovery mode and edit the sudoers file from there05:36
thoreauputicdaveb_: boot in recovery mode and run "visudo"05:36
crimsunmatthew_w: that's because dvdstyler was not compiled for your Ubuntu version05:36
flankkmsfrank, I don't know and lspci does not detect it.05:36
phayze2crimsun: i telnetted to heart.cecs.csulb.edu and used SSH to log onto one of the machines called ecs306mac195.  i want to copy a file from my computer, specifically chapter1question1.cc into the home folder of "jguevarr" (my username on the remote machine)..05:36
thoreauputicdaveb_: but read man sudoers first :)05:37
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daveb_Okay, I will try, thanks.05:37
matthew_wcrimsun; clearly.  I think I'll use QDvdauthor from Marillat.05:37
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Vaske_Carin what folder is installed Helix by default?05:37
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crimsunphayze2: on your home computer, scp chapter1question1.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:.05:38
msfrankflankk: hrmm.. do you know any other information about the motherboard?  what does lspci say the host bridge is?  manufacturer?  model?05:38
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crimsunphayze2: the trailing '.' is important05:38
chriscould anyone in here help me with ubuntu?05:38
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murtaughhey are there debs out for gnome 2.12?05:38
flankkmsfrank, Intel Corp. 440LX/EX05:38
msfrankmurtaugh: in breezy05:39
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murtaughno hoary huh...05:39
thoreauputic!tell chris about ask05:39
crimsunwalter: have you pasted the contents?05:39
murtaughhow do I use ask?05:39
waltercrabstic,  i posted an ls of the directory05:39
chriscould someone help me fix the resolution? Its at like 640x340 and it says that I can't change it..05:39
geneo93sn0n:  this is lsmod ide_tape               39184  005:39
geneo93and dmesg [4294713.945000]  ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: Seagate STT8000A rev 5.5105:39
waltercrimsun, i mean05:39
grimdeathcan anyone recommend a good tutorial for getting my ati radeon 9800 pro video card working? 3d render and such05:39
crimsunwalter: no, I need to see the contents of all the files in /proc/asound05:39
flankkmsfrank, Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA05:39
thoreauputic!fixres05:39
ubotufrom memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:39
grimdeathupdating drivers*05:39
Madpilot!tell grimdeath about ati05:39
flankkmsfrank, it is on the ISA bus..05:40
chris!fixres05:40
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walterI dont know how to do that05:40
NB_Ubuntugah... still error in connecting for updates05:40
crimsunflankk: do you have pcmcia-cs installed? You need the lspnp utility.05:40
msfrankflankk: mm, this could be difficult05:40
murtaughis anyone here running breezy? last I heard X was broken05:40
geneo93i am05:41
tritiummurtaugh, that was some time ago05:41
flankkcrimsun, I've tried that utility before, it detected something on ISA.. but it was difficult to use..05:41
crimsunwalter: find /proc/asound -exec cat '{}' ';'05:41
geneo93nvidia driver 746705:41
murtaughupgrading to breezy is just a matter of changing the apt repository right05:41
crimsunMrNaughty: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)05:41
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crimsunMrNaughty: sorry05:41
crimsunmurtaugh: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)05:41
NB_Ubuntuhm... I can browse to it in mozilla05:41
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NB_Ubuntubbiab05:42
wickedpuppymurtaugh, mine was broken when i did dist-upgrade ... but its solvable05:42
murtaughhmm ok i'll give it a try on my test box, thanks guys05:42
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tgais dasher usable? with ubuntu?05:43
walterdone05:43
VexirI just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?05:43
phayze2crimsun: it says no such file or directory05:43
murtaughoh one more question :)  is inotify enabled in breezy?05:43
Vaske_CarI installed HelixPlayer but it still can not play streams... do I have to do any package installation for streams??05:43
Vaske_Carthis is the link: http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls05:43
flankkcrimsun, I'm installing the package now.05:43
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crimsunphayze2: chapter1question1.cc needs to be in the current directory, or you need to provide the full path to it05:43
crimsunmurtaugh: yes05:44
murtaughcrimsun: thanks05:44
msfrankflankk: i hate to say it, you might just want to go out and pick up a cheapo pci audio card.. support for ISA hardware is going the way of the dodo05:44
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flankkmsfrank, this isn't my box.  I'm willing to move my buddy over to linux, but not to buy him hardware :|05:45
crimsunflankk: please install the pcmcia-cs package, then execute the ''lspnp'' utility from a terminal05:45
FR500hello05:45
daveb_That worked perfectly, thank you! :)05:45
msfrankflankk: haha05:45
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weijie90hi05:45
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FR500frankly speaking, do you think OO.org spreadsheet can compete with excel?05:45
weijie90how do i make a program run automatically when i login?05:45
VexirI just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?05:45
wickedpuppyVexir, get a good burn and install without problems ?05:46
tritiumweijie90, have you saved your session on logout?05:46
weijie90huh?05:46
wickedpuppythen if you still got problems , we will see how we can help you05:46
codenutVexir, you can use a ndiswrapper, or comply with the compatible hardware list.05:46
wickedpuppyon my toshiba satellite 1200 , its fine05:46
weijie90i just want to run a command automatically on startup05:46
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tgaweijie90, what command is that?05:47
weijie90like gaim or eciadsl-start05:47
codenutI complied with the list and mine works fine05:47
weijie90im using xfce05:47
codenutI am using the card now.05:47
tritiumI don't know about xfce05:47
Vexircodenut: Well I have a DWL-G520 dlink, and it can detect the card fine, just not the connection itself.05:47
benplauti still can't find any diff between Gnoppix and Ubuntu, other than that Gnoppix can be installed to HDD from the liveCD05:47
tgaweijie90, add it to .xsession05:47
phayze2crimsun: i've typed "scp /home/john/chapter1question2.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:." and it still gives me the same error message05:47
weijie90.xsession?05:47
weijie90hmm05:47
phayze2and the file is in /home/john05:47
Madpilotbenplaut: Ubuntu is brown ;)05:47
tritiumbenplaut, I believe gnoppix started basing off of ubuntu05:47
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tga$HOME/.xsession should get executed when you start X05:48
benplautMadpilot, true... truw :P05:48
tgaand by the way, that's not really startup, it's X startup05:48
crimsunphayze2: where is chapter1question2.cc?05:48
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benplauttritium, yeah... and almost no diff05:48
phayze2crimsun: /home/john/05:48
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communicohey, does anyone know anything about settings up raids?05:48
weijie90is .xsession in ~/.xession?05:48
tgayes, it's ~/.xsession05:48
weijie90thanks!05:49
kevogodI wish Ubuntu used Clearlooks for the Window Border as the default05:49
whyameyewhat is Clearlooks?05:49
tritiumkevogod, breezy ships with clearlooks theme05:49
tgathe new gnome uses clearlooks so I guess it will05:49
tritiumit's not default, but you can use it05:49
crimsunphayze2: and I presume you have write perms in your home dir on ecs306mac195?05:49
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Vaske_CarWhat to install to be able to listen online radio?05:50
RedGhosti like glider05:50
RedGhost-_-05:50
kevogodwhyameye, It is the default GNOME skin05:50
weijie90can gaim be launched through the command line?05:50
VexirDoes anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)05:50
crimsunweijie90: sure, 'gaim'05:50
FR500Vaske_Car: streamtuner05:50
weijie90thanks05:50
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tgaweijie90, yes, but it does not work in the console05:50
sepmikedoes anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client05:50
kevogodwhyameye, as of late05:50
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phayze2my instructor said we can, but we cannot run programs once they are written to their server05:50
weijie90it just opens the window thingy rite?05:50
FR500is open office 2 very different from 1?05:50
Madpilot!tell Vexir about wireless05:51
RedGhostit launches the application the same way as the start menu05:51
sepmike-fullscreen05:51
crimsunphayze2: try specifying ~/. instead of just .05:51
tgaFR500, shouldn't be05:51
kevogodFR500, It is better. There, now try it.05:51
weijie90FR500: yes... its much betyter05:51
tgaFR500, just better than the latest 1.x05:51
VexirDoes anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)05:51
crimsunthough . should suffice05:51
crimsunwalter: sec05:51
weijie90thanks everyone05:51
FR500better like faster or with more features?05:51
crimsunVexir: is WEP/WPA/2 enabled on the AP?05:51
tgaFR500, better like fewer bugs05:51
walternp05:51
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phayze2crimsun: /home/john/chapter1question2.cc: No such file or directory05:52
codenutVexir: could it be the data rate? like 4X. I have run into that before with DLINK NICS05:52
tgaFR500, possibly faster05:52
FR500tga: what is keeping most of my friends going to linux is that, for example, i don't know if it's even possible to do pivot tables in OO05:52
kevogodBetter as in a real contender for MSOffice05:52
crimsunphayze2: the error's pretty clear; /home/john/chapter1question2.cc does not exist or you lack read perms for it05:52
Vexircrimsun: WEP is disabled... my data rate is nothing wierd05:52
kevogod"Support for pivot tables has now been vastly improved with many new features added."05:53
FR500kevogod: kewl05:53
FR500Vexir: in the network config applet mark the "this device is configured" check05:53
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FR500and then try to set your essid05:53
crimsunVexir: using the breezy colony 4 live cd, does ''iwconfig'' show the essid of your ap?05:53
Vexircrimsun: what?05:54
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crimsunVexir: are you running Ubuntu at the moment?05:54
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FR500kevogod: what about a database like msaccess?05:54
regeyagnome-launch-box!05:54
kevogodFR500: It includes a new program called Base05:54
regeyarock05:55
FR500of vfp, most office guys that need databases use that05:55
Vaske_Carwhere to find guides to install MGEG and MP3 support?05:55
FR500ok05:55
FR500nice05:55
Vaske_CarMPEG*05:55
killapopHi people! I have a Toshiba Satellite A10 Notebook now running XP and Ubuntu Hoary. I've been using Ubuntu for the last 8 months without a problem. A few days ago, I installed some laptop utilities through synaptic and now when i boot up... i get past the login screen and then the screen remains blank for almost 5 mins before the gnome-panel loads... then eth0 is not configured and i have to manually config it each time i boot....05:55
kevogodFR500: I am not sure how powerful or comparable to Access it is, but you can try and find that out yourself05:55
killapopsorry for the long rant05:55
FR500i see05:55
killapopcan anyone help?05:55
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FR500in any case, i could install office xp i gues but i don't really like the idea05:55
killapopi removed the laptop utilties but still no fun05:55
killapopi mean its didnt fix the problem05:56
tga!tell Vaske_Car about restrictedformats05:56
VexirDoes anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card) the Ubuntu wiki says its supported out of the box and should work very well...05:56
thoreauputic!tell Vaske_Car about mp305:56
phayze2crimsun: thanks though, that was a lot of help05:57
kevogodFR500, I am not sure if you can install Base from the repos since it requires Java. Someone correct me if I am wrong.05:57
VexirOH05:57
crimsunVexir: you haven't answered my question05:57
VexirI SEE05:57
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Vexircrim: nono it says in the wiki that revision B of this card (i have this) wont work out of the box but theres some fix that i can do or sometihnsomething to make it work05:57
flamesrock$hi, I'm wondering if anyone here knows the best/easiest way to convert an avi into an mpg suitable for burning on to DVD? I swear, I've looked. Everything seems to be for vcd..05:57
kevogodFR500: Base would probably be unofficially supported by Ubuntu because of the Java requirement - I think it still is there05:58
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naliothflamesrock: the unicorn you seek is called "transcode"05:58
FR500kevogod: cool05:58
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bur[n] eranyone know why gnome-panel wants to access my keyring for evolution passwords everytime I start my PC... is there anyway I can stop it?05:58
tgaflamesrock, mencoder might help too05:58
FR500i hope mergeant gets supported for breezy05:58
shadeofgreywhats the command in apt-get to install the damn macromedia flash player?05:58
AzMooHi there. I just plugged in my digital camera, and I need to mount it, but I'm not sure what device it's on. dmesg shows that it's detected, so that's a good start. What device and fs do I need?05:59
kevogodFR500, The version of openoffice.org2 in the repos is old though... so I would not judge it based off of that05:59
tgaanyone else having trouble with evolution eating up all the cpu?05:59
bur[n] er!flash05:59
ubotuflash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:59
FR500ok05:59
shadeofgreyi tried downloading it manually and installing it manually but i got the installation directory for mozilla wrong05:59
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flamesrockthanks, tga, nalioth05:59
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kevogodFR500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta05:59
brownie17where can i get a c++ compiler?05:59
crimsunbuild-essential, brownie1705:59
naliothbrownie17: install "build-essential"05:59
shadeofgreydoes anybody know where the default install directory for firefox is?????05:59
flamesrockisn't g++ good enoughm brownie1705:59
brownie17crimsun: sudo apt-get install build-essential?06:00
tgashadeofgrey, /usr/lib/mozilla-frefox06:00
crimsunbrownie17: yes06:00
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naliothbrownie17: yes06:00
shadeofgreythanks tga!'06:00
bur[n] er!tell shadeofgrey about flash06:00
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Vexircrimsun: hey i sent you a PM, could you respond plz06:00
phayze2brownie17: Anjuta is a C++ compiler with a UI06:00
brownie17phayze2: i only want it so an program i am trying to install will work06:01
peloverdelaunchpad is telling me that the source package name i'm entering is invalid but it most certainly seems correct06:01
peloverdegnuradio-examples06:01
brownie17anyone here using DOOM3 on Ubuntu?06:01
HrdwrBoBbrownie17: yeah06:01
thoreauputicnot bad - trying toget used to using irssi more, so I'm a bit less involved on channel at the moment06:01
brownie17nalioth: why, when i open rythymbox, is there only two radiostations?06:01
thoreauputicbah wrong window !06:02
naliothbrownie17: b/c you havent added any more06:02
Vexir!tell Vexir about wireless06:02
bimberithoreauputic: the irony :)06:02
brownie17hrdwrBob: i did everything the guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com told me to do, but now when i go to open it it just gives me a smaller resolution and leaves me on the dekstop with no mouse control?06:02
brownie17nalioth: where can i do that?06:03
FR500i get gpg errors when running apt-get update06:03
FR500how can i fix that?06:03
naliothbrownie17: in the menus, you can add radio stations06:03
brownie17FR500: give specific on the errors06:03
thoreauputicbimberi: heheh - I'm fiddling arond with split windows06:03
HrdwrBoBbrownie17: run it on the command line, tell me what error it gives06:03
sepmikedoes anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client06:03
FR500brownie17: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>06:03
FR500W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>06:03
brownie17nalioth: are you personally familiar with it? do you use it often?06:03
FR500sorry for pasting i forgot06:03
bimberithoreauputic: i've tried it too, but have got very familiar with xchat06:04
brownie17FR500: i forgive you06:04
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naliothbrownie17: i have used it, but not too much06:04
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trevor3307hey....does anyone know of an RSS screensaver other than Mercury?06:04
brownie17nalioth: why would i use apt-get instead of synaptic?06:05
naliothbrownie17: personal choice06:05
FR500brownie17: any ideas on what's wrong?06:05
bur[n] erbrownie17: because you always have a term window open and you'd have to open synaptic ;)06:05
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brownie17nalioth: so do all the radio stations require high bandwidth connections? i only have a 25606:05
FR500brownie17: there are some with 2406:05
bur[n] erbrownie17: check out streamtuner06:05
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benplautanyone here gotten quicksilver up and running?06:06
benplauterr06:06
sn0nquicksilver?06:06
benplautGnome-Launch-Box06:06
sn0nlol06:06
naliothbrownie17: you can go to www.tuner2.com and use vlc to access their streams, it sounds great06:06
brownie17FR500: i'm only a newbie, you'll have to ask someone else, just it's easier to get help if you put the entire problem in. and if no-one says anything then usually no-one knows06:06
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thoreauputicbimberi: I've used irssi before , but this configuration is new: irssi has advantages for op scripts (I'm learning about this... )06:06
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crimsunwalter: your sound chipset is very new; we'll have to dig around a bit for the info06:06
brownie17nalioth: thanks06:06
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naliothbrownie17: np06:06
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mike_anyone have any experience with using enlightenment?06:06
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VjazHi. I'm wondering, how stable is Breezy these days?06:06
trevor3307everyone: rss screensaver for linux...are there any?06:06
sn0ntrevor3307, Liferea06:07
trevor3307thank06:07
FR500thoreauputic: i get some gpg errors, any clus on what is wrong?06:07
sn0ntrevor3307, there is like 20+06:07
walterokay thanks for trying anyway06:07
trevor3307i cant find any...06:07
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bimberithoreauputic: ah, how to ban as quickly as possible meguesses06:07
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sn0ntrevor3307, owl, blam,06:07
kevogodtrevor3307, I saw Tiger's RSS screensaver and was impressed06:07
thoreauputicFR500: with apt?06:07
brownie17bur[n] er: where can i see streamtuner?06:07
FR500thoreauputic: after apt-get update06:07
FR500yes06:07
trevor3307no...screensaver06:07
sn0nkevogod, Tigers ?06:07
kevogodsn0n, OS X Tiger06:07
AzMooerr, are there supposed to be any /dev/sdaX devices?06:07
sn0nooooo06:07
sn0nosx06:07
thoreauputicFR500: errors or warnings?06:07
sn0ni was like.. eh06:07
trevor3307not newsreader....screensaver06:07
sn0nlol06:07
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brownie17nalioth: is vlc a better replacment for rythymbox? becasue i like ryhtmox's media library set-up thing. it is alot like winamp06:08
FR500thoreauputic: it says gpg error06:08
mik3where is that jive turkey known as Seveas06:08
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drcodehi all06:08
kevogodtrevor3307, Yea, Tiger has an RSS screensaver06:08
drcodeI Need help06:08
sn0nnews readers shouldnt be screensavers06:08
trevor3307why not?06:08
thoreauputicFR500: are you using standard repos?06:08
bimberimik3: asleep most likely06:08
sn0nits just silly.. cuz if the screensaver is on.. im not at the computer..06:08
FR500the errors are on the standard ones06:08
weerobbyis there any fix for winetools I really hate having to use the human theme to use wine tools06:08
trevor3307this is not my primary comp..06:08
sn0nand if im at the computer.. i'll be damned if its on the screensaver06:08
drcodeI Have files with "filename.rar " I Want it to be "filename.rar"06:08
kevogodsn0n, Not necessarily06:08
drcodeany idea?06:08
trevor3307it sites in the corner06:08
trevor3307sits*06:08
HrdwrBoBdrcode: rename them06:08
Vaske_CarStill problem with playing online radio06:08
HrdwrBoB?06:08
naliothbrownie17: tuner2 uses aacplus to stream their music, and (at this time) vlc is the only mainstream player to play it06:08
Vaske_Car:(06:09
kevogodsn0n, With OS X and Expose you can click a corner to active the screen saver06:09
drcodeI Have multifiles06:09
sn0nhmm06:09
drcodeis there some fast idea?06:09
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thoreauputicFR500: odd - any changes to your configuration recently?06:09
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brownie17nalioth: but is VLC good for everything else that rythymbox can do? i'd like to have one program for all my music needs if possible :)06:09
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FR500i changed my sources.list to one i found in the pastebin, with some seveas quotes i think06:09
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crimsunwalter: what motherboard is it?06:09
Inf3ctedFxHello again ppl....I really give up06:09
weerobbykevogod: also in osx you can suffer pitful preformance06:09
naliothbrownie17: to my knowledge, vlc doestn do playlists06:09
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crimsun(vlc has playlists)06:10
walterfijitsu siemens D167506:10
thoreauputicFR500: did you back up the old one?06:10
walterwrong spellling proably06:10
Inf3ctedFxI need to find the driver for my WAN  which is Broadcom BCM432006:10
=== Decadent Good morning mates :)
walterbut deffo d167506:10
FR500nope06:10
sn0nbrownie17, Totem in 2.12 is awesome for everything06:10
FR500thoreauputic: but i was getting the same errors06:10
sn0nbrownie17, since its got builtin playlist and about everything else06:10
kevogodweerobby, I assume you read that one article criticizing OS X's performance on some server task? Have you ever used Tiger?06:10
thoreauputicFR500: most likely you just made an error in the list06:10
naliothbrownie17: well crimsun says you're in business. vlc does playlists06:10
drcodeHrdwrBoB, U can help me please06:11
FR500thoreauputic: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B506:11
HrdwrBoBdrcode: unfortunately it's not easy06:11
weerobbykevogod: first no and second I own a dual g4 733 and a 2ghz single g5 Xserve06:11
HrdwrBoBunless you have LOTS of files, just rename them06:11
thoreauputicFR500: hmm06:11
naliothkevogod: osx does have performance problems in some areas06:12
thoreauputicFR500: seems strange you would see that with standard repos06:12
kevogodnalioth, Yes, but not to the extent that is show stopping06:12
FR500is there a way to reset the keys or clear them or anything alike?06:12
intelikey!tell intelikey about rar06:12
intelikeyi thought so.06:12
naliothintelikey: try /msg ubotu rar next time06:13
thoreauputicFR500: yes there is - I don't remember it off the top of my head but I think the wiki has something about it06:13
kevogodnalioth, I would never use OS X for server use06:13
naliothkevogod: me neither, i've got ubu on my macs06:13
liberfiasco!tell libervisco about apt06:13
trevor3307so no RSS screensavers that anyone knows of?06:13
liberfiasco!tell liberfiasco about apt06:13
bur[n] ernope06:13
Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone knows where can I download the drivers for my wireless card?? is a BCM432006:13
walterFujitsu Siemens D167506:13
intelikeynalioth was that one line so obtrusive ?06:13
bur[n] erliberfiasco: you can just msg ubotu ;)06:13
kevogodIf you want a Unix based OS, why choose OS X over FreeBSD?06:13
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Dr_Willistrevor3307,  not that i have seen.06:14
FR500thoreauputic: thanks06:14
Madpilot!tell Inf3ctedFx about wireless06:14
liberfiascobur[n] er, oh thanks :)06:14
liberfiascocool is that bot :)06:14
weerobbykevogod: I find even with a ati 9600 ui to be sluggish and as far as my xserve it used as a netboot station for other macs06:14
naliothintelikey: if you are seeking knowledge for yourself, why let everyone else know ?06:14
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[Spooky] hey, i just can choose 640x480 800x600 and 1024x768 in the gui tool, how do i choose like 1600x1200 ?06:15
sn0n!tell #ubuntu about politics06:15
sn0nhehehe06:15
crimsunwalter: hmm. sudo modprobe -r snd_azx06:15
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sn0nwhat kinda eggdrop is ubotu06:15
sn0n?06:15
kevogodweerobby, The experience I have had with G5s and Tiger/10.3.X was good. OS X loaded very quickly on the systems and I did not notice really any sluggishness06:15
crimsunsn0n: modified blootbot06:16
naliothsn0n: /whois the bot06:16
Madpilot!tell [Spooky]  about fixres06:16
sn0noo06:16
brownie17!polotics06:16
ubotuNot a clue, brownie1706:16
kevogodweerobby, The UI even responded quickly06:16
brownie17!politics06:16
ubotubrownie17: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:16
Inf3ctedFxMadpilot:  but this is the funny thing.. I have the CD, everytime I load the driver to ndiswrapper -i BCM4306 it said, Invalid Driver06:16
liberfiascohaha06:16
kevogodweerobby, Although on G4s and G3s, I can see the performance problems06:16
weerobbykevogod: apparently you have not run the same machines using linux06:16
benplautw00t! Gnome 2.12 is out :D06:16
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weerobbykevogod: osx is full of bloat almost as bad as windows xp06:16
sn0nblootbot seems terriably outdated06:17
sn0nlol06:17
Inf3ctedFxon the lspci -a show me the number 432006:17
brownie17naloth: can i update my version of gnome? how?06:17
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MadpilotInf3ctedFx: to be honest, I still run on lots and lots of Cat5 here...06:17
Inf3ctedFxwith the lscpi -v shoe me the driver 43 something..06:17
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crimsunwalter: that should return you to a prompt06:17
crimsunwalter: any luck?06:17
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Inf3ctedFxyes.. I believe I'm going to do that =)06:17
kevogodweerobby, Does Linux boot quicker than Tiger on a G5?06:18
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[Spooky] Madpilot: that page dont work...06:18
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sn0nkevogod, depends on if the linux is loading X or just to a login06:18
weerobbykevogod: it does on a g06:18
weerobbyg406:18
Inf3ctedFxCannot join #ubuntu-es (You are banned). <-- why showed me I'm banned when I never went there b4?06:18
sn0nwhats -es ?06:19
kevogodsn0n, Well, let's be fair here06:19
brownie17inf3ctedfx: got a dynamic or static IP adress?06:19
Inf3ctedFxes = spanish06:19
sn0noo06:19
Inf3ctedFxI have a dynamic06:19
thoreauputickevogod: since I haven't needed to reboot in 76 days, seems irrelevant ;)06:19
brownie17inf3ctedfx: turn off yuor modem, turn it back on, then try again06:19
kevogodthoreauputic, Since the majority of people shutdown their computers at night, it certainly does seem relevant06:20
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walterit did, no output06:20
Inf3ctedFxthats the problem... I'm stealing signal from my neighbor lol06:20
[Spooky] is www.ubuntulinux.org down ?06:20
Inf3ctedFxwireless singnal xD06:20
thoreauputickevogod: I was just making a light hearted comment, really06:20
brownie17inf3ctedfx: although EXTREMELY unlikely, it is possible that someone got banned using the IP that your ISP randomnly gave you06:20
intelikeyInf3ctedFx it may be your ip that is baned and not your nick.06:20
No1Viking[Spooky] : No, it's up06:20
Madpilot[Spooky] : not for me..06:20
Inf3ctedFxyes, thats the wired thing06:20
brownie17inf3ctedfx: hahah :) nice job. he know? can't help you then. that probably wasn't the problem anyway. is he spanish? did he try to go there?06:21
[Spooky] strange i cant get in...06:21
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ellstritium: hey what is up06:21
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Madpilot[Spooky] : try www.ubuntu.com or one of the other URLs?06:21
naliothInf3ctedFx: your isp may be banned from -es06:21
Inf3ctedFxno, actually I just install this NIC wireless and I track like 5 diferent signals lol  those r insecure wireless signal06:21
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odathello everyone06:21
brownie17inf3ctedfx: ok. gtg06:22
Inf3ctedFxI migh need to talk to him and say: Hey dude power circle ur modem  lol06:22
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[Spooky] all other webpages load, but not any ubuntu... strange...06:25
odatanyone able to help me get my DRI working?06:25
aircooledmadnesshey06:25
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waltercrimsun, Where do i go from here06:27
kaliasnickrud: Hi!  How is life?06:27
crimsunwalter: did you unload snd_azx?06:27
walterno06:28
walteror os that what the -r does?06:28
kaliasI was wondering if someone help me with some serial port trouble?06:28
intelikeyodat "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   is about as good a place to start as i know of.06:28
odatintelikey: just went through that and its disabled06:29
odat:(06:29
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msfrankodat: what card do you have?06:29
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crimsunwalter: that's what the -r does06:30
odatmsfrank: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 06:30
waltercrabstic,  yes then i did06:30
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waltermy mistake06:30
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nfinitep1astikhello gentlepeople06:30
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tritiumgood night, amigos06:31
nfinitep1astiki've recently installed hoary on an ibook and just needed help configuring ALSA to work06:31
crimsun'night06:31
msfrankodat : DRI requires support in the kernel, and i don't know if ubuntu ships with the savage kernel driver enabled..06:31
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brownie17nalioth: hey umm. i have a file that gas a .sh.bin extension, and it is an install for a program... what do i need to do to it to make ti run?06:31
msfrankodat: i'll check tho06:31
intelikeygood howdy do nfinitep1astik06:31
naliothbrownie17: run it  ./filename.sh.bin06:31
odati'm just assuming that is why my screen redraws are so slow06:31
brownie17!tell nfiniteplastik about alsa06:32
kaliasNewbie question:  What does "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty" mean?  I am trying to send something out a serial port.06:32
nfinitep1astikintelikey: thanks.....just trying to get stuff running ^.^06:32
msfrankodat: DRI will not help (at the moment) with 2d acceleration06:32
brownie17nalioth: just gives me some error about it not existing06:32
intelikeynfinitep1astik usually running alsamixer and using M to un mute it will fix that.  but if you problem is bigger than that say on.06:32
naliothbrownie17: type chmod u+x filename.sh.bin06:33
msfrankodat: do you mean monitor flickering, like your refresh rate is too low?06:33
brownie17nalioth: it says command not found, what willthat chomd thing do06:33
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odatmsfrank: when switching applications and / or anything that requires screen redraws its painful06:33
nfinitep1astik.....06:33
nfinitep1astiki must be tired06:33
brownie17nalioth: didn't give me an error, but didnt appear to do anything either06:33
nfinitep1astiki forgot to switch the mixer06:33
naliothbrownie17: it said 'not found' b/c your .bin was told to be an executable. the chmod command will tell it to act so06:33
naliothbrownie17: now run ./filename.sh.bin06:34
brownie17still says command not found06:34
brownie17nalioth: actually i think i have it worked out06:34
brownie17nalioth: yeah it's installing06:35
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msfrankodat: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and tell me what video driver you are using06:35
ksmurfis there anyway to save favorite channels in xchat?06:36
Jerimiah40Hello everybody06:36
Jerimiah40Is there somebody here who could tell me the approximate system requirements for Ubuntu?06:36
nfinitep1astikJerimiah40: a toaster with 4 slots06:37
naliothJerimiah40: what were  you thinking of puttin it on?06:37
thoreauputicksmurf: you can set them to autojoin in the server dialogue06:37
Jerimiah40Its a Pentium-3 Processor, with 128 megabytes of ram06:37
weerobbysorry back had to check on a win2k server I am setting up06:37
Madpilotnfinitep1astik: but can you get OK performance from a 2-slot toaster? ;)06:37
naliothJerimiah40: you'll be fine06:38
Jerimiah40Okay, thank you06:38
weerobbyMore ram would help though06:38
nfinitep1astikMadpilot: sure, im sure you can overclock the heating coils06:38
naliothMadpilot: better with the bagel-width 2-slot jobs06:38
Vaske_CarIs Linux based CorelDraw FREE or not?06:38
whyameyeIs a Pentium II still fine with ubuntu?06:38
ksmurfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24890 Jerimiah06:38
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naliothwhyameye: yes it is06:38
benplautVaske_Car, there's CorelDRAW for linux?!!?!?06:38
weerobbywhyameye: I put it on a old pentium pro 233 so it should be fine06:38
thoreauputicjust be sure your taoster has a good fan...06:39
Vaske_CarIsnt it?06:39
benplauta really old one06:39
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whyameye...and I'm assuming it will run faster than Windows OSes on these older machines?06:39
odatmsfrank: savage  driver06:39
planetcallhello peeps06:39
naliothwhyameye: yes, usually06:39
Dr_WillisHmm.. is it possible to make a file with its name - with spaces at the end? 'foo    '06:39
weerobbyVaske_Car: I belive at one point they gave it out for free bu I dont know about now06:39
cafuego_whyameye: It will as long as you either havs 256MB+ of ram or (if less) run xfce or *box.06:39
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Dr_Willissomeone is asking how to remove said spaces...  :P or hes confused about somthing else.06:39
benplautVaske_Car, i've heard of it, but never found it... i think v6 or something might have come for linux, too06:39
planetcallwhere there is Debian then why ubuntu ?06:39
msfrankodat: hrm..i thought maybe you were using the old VGA driver or something..06:40
brownie17nalioth: i am REALLY beginning to understand why people say you need nvidia to play games on linux, becasue of the drivers!!!! :( :(06:40
Vaske_CarWhat is a Linux alternative for Corel?06:40
cafuego_planetcall: Why not?06:40
crimsunDr_Willis: sure, you can always mv it06:40
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crimsunDr_Willis: it needs to be properly escaped from the shell, of course06:40
MadpilotVaske_Car: for vector drawing, Inkscape06:40
planetcallsince it is based on debian then why shouldnt one choose debian instead of ubuntu ?06:40
benplautVaske_Car, in terms of vectors?06:40
whyameyecafuego_, what is xfce and *box?06:40
Dr_Williscrimsun,  but he has 200 of them . :p06:40
Jerimiah40Thank you everybody for your help :)06:40
Vaske_Caryes yes vectors06:40
weerobbybrownie17: Are you an ATI person06:40
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planetcalldont take it otherwise.........asking just coz i had this question in my mind06:40
crimsunDr_Willis: that's what sed is for06:40
benplautVaske_Car, yeah, inkscape06:40
crimsunDr_Willis: or perl, if he's into that06:41
cafuego_whyameye: xfce and *box (fluxbox, blackbox) are desktop environemnts and window managers. Gnome/KDE is probably a bit too much with 64 or 128MB ram.06:41
benplautbut, as you can imagine, any interface on earth pales to CorelDraw :)06:41
Dr_Williscrimsun,  lol.. i think he barely understands bash or english. :P06:41
whyameyecafuego_, and you can install ubuntu with xfce or *box instead of Gnome?06:41
crimsunwalter: still here?06:41
cafuego_whyameye: Yep, just begin with a 'server' install, then add what you need.06:41
benplautVaske_Car, found it... v9 had a linux edition06:41
Vaske_Carbenplaut: GIMP is just to edit pictures right?06:41
benplautyeah06:42
benplautsame as photopaint06:42
weerobbywhyamye you end up with gnome but it wont take very long to get xfce installed on it06:42
planetcall?06:42
Vaske_Carbenapult: Corel v(?06:42
naliothVaske_Car: gimp is trying to equal photoshop06:42
odatmsfrank: yea i'm not sure what to do06:42
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cafuego_planetcall: Why not try both and see if there is a difference?06:42
benplautVaske_Car, something messed up on that end... nine...06:42
waltercrimsun, I am06:42
brownie17weerobby: yes atm, but i want to change now ;(06:42
thoreauputicplanetcall: well, ubuntu tends to be easier to set up and releases every 6 months06:43
msfrankodat: are your computers specs recent?  ubuntu/GNOME can be fairly resource intensive06:43
weerobbybrownie17: what ati card06:43
adoyretsamonplanetcall, cause Ubuntu has support you can buy...06:43
Vaske_CarCorel v9 is available for free, linux edition?06:43
adoyretsamonand is easier06:43
adoyretsamonvery easy06:43
brownie17weerobby: the radeonVE/700006:43
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adoyretsamonoh, yea and stays newer06:43
benplautVaske_Car, i don't think free... but it exists06:43
planetcallk got it06:43
weerobbybrownie17: blah....  I have not had really any gaming problems with linux and radeon 9600 XT06:43
adoyretsamonweerobby, wow06:44
adoyretsamongood06:44
funkyelfwhats up guys.  I'm considering installing ubuntu for a MythTV box I want to build.  I have a buddy I work with that just installed ubuntu and was complaining that its nedit was version 5.4 when 5.5 has been out for a long time.  If one were to install nedit 5.5 manually would it break stuff with synaptic?06:44
brownie17weerobby: that's becasue ATI make drivers for radeon 8000 series and higher06:44
Vaske_Carinkscape does not look bad :)  just need a bit of time...06:44
kaliasHow are com ports labeled in unix land?  Are they ttys0 and ttys1?06:44
cafuego_kalias: yes06:44
brownie17weerobby: but i have to use the standard ubuntu one06:44
planetcallsince i havent used debian may i ask what is the difference between debian and ubuntu. Please list only a few06:44
cafuego_kalias: Well, capital S06:44
benplautVaske_Car, and no, there isn't a layer/object panel :(06:44
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adoyretsamonVaske_Car, yes.. inkscape is nice06:44
weerobbythere are some features that  I dont have access too like the ati overdrive functions like in windows but it works fine06:44
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nfinitep1astikanyone know if ubuntu automatically supports wireless hardware for ibooks?06:44
cafuego_planetcall: Ubuntu is ease-of-use-on-desktop focused.06:44
planetcalli have recently got 20 free ubuntu CDs and have distributed 19 of them06:45
odatmsfrank: i'm running a 1.7 ghz celeron with 256 megs of ram06:45
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: airport extreme?06:45
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wickedpuppyplanetcall, why not try debian and see whats the difference ?06:45
weerobbyI right now about 50/50 with Nvidia and ATI cards and really can not put one ahead of another06:45
adoyretsamonplanetcall, then why that question?06:45
thoreauputicplanetcall: not a lot really - try the live CD to experiment06:45
wickedpuppyweerobby, nvidia06:45
nfinitep1astikcafuego_: broadcom, actually06:45
{GuNNeR}could someone help me, when I use my wireless to log on to my personal wep encrypted router, I have no problem at all, but for some reason when I'm at my university, I cannot get on their non wep encrypted "any" server06:45
{GuNNeR}any ideas why?06:45
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: Yeah, not supported. (at all)06:45
brownie17weerobby: that is of course, if you have the money to buy a good one! :)06:45
weerobbyplanetcall: I have 580 on there way which will all be used up if they arrive by saturday06:45
msfrankodat: that sounds reasonable.. i'm baffled :(06:45
nfinitep1astikcafuego_: thanks....i'll have to use super generic drivers06:46
crimsunwalter: please, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x006:46
Vaske_CarInkscape is similar to Xara06:46
brownie17weerobby: man you are serious about distributing!!!06:46
adoyretsamon{GuNNeR}, you need to use something like whereami script06:46
weerobbyBrownie I find it best to buy video cards off of friends who by a new card every 8 months06:46
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: The aurport express is just not supported (at all, in any way) under Linux.06:46
adoyretsamon{GuNNeR}, works very cool, but you need to configure it06:46
weerobbybrownie17: no it is a software freedom day event06:46
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walterdone06:46
adoyretsamon{GuNNeR}, esp if you move from network to network06:46
brownie17weerobby: yeah thats quite a good idea, oh ok06:46
weerobbythey are for the whole tampa bay area06:46
funkyelfone Ubuntu is installed, are you for all intensive purposes running a debian box?...could you follow any debian how-to's without problem or is Ubuntu very customized?06:46
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kaliascafuego_:That is strange.  I am trying to direct a file out a serial port and it comes back with "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty"06:47
walterhow do you runa gz.sh file06:47
naliothVaske_Car: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html06:47
ksmurftest06:47
cafuego_kalias: Driver not loaded?06:47
planetcalli am on dialup and they dont provide free debian cd :P. ;)   But my little experience with live cd does suggest ubuntu could be better choice but personally i  am using FEDORA as i am much familiar with RedHat commands and usage06:47
weerobbybrownie17:  i have a friend that updates his card every year and I get his old one for say 70 dollars when it still selling on stores for close to 200 while he buying 300 dollar cards06:47
nfinitep1astikcafuego_: but i wasn't referring to airport extreme, just the onboard wireless....or is it the same?06:47
kaliascafuego_: That is a good question.  I don't know how to tell.06:48
thoreauputicplanetcall: use what works for you then06:48
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planetcalli will definitely try a switch over for timebeing to ubuntu for the sake of the good people who sent me free cds06:48
crimsunwalter: what happens with that modprobe command?06:48
brownie17weerobby: lucky bastard!06:48
planetcalland may be if i find ease with it......i will stick06:48
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walterno output06:49
planetcallanyways thank guys06:49
weerobbynfinitep1astik: airport extreme can reffer to the airport card or the airport access point  but either way it describes apples 802.11G products06:49
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: That is what the on-board wireless is.06:49
nfinitep1astikweerobby: thanks06:49
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silvertonIs there an easy way to add more resolutions to xorg.conf?06:49
crimsunwalter: cat /proc/asound/cards06:49
cafuego_weerobby: the access point is an "airport express".06:49
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odatmsfrank: would checking out the xorg.conf file help?06:49
weerobbycafuego_: your right06:49
thoreauputic!tell silverton about fixres06:50
Vaske_Carnalioth: thanks!06:50
ksmurfthoreauputic that worked like a charm .... Thanks06:50
naliothVaske_Car: np06:50
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: Broadcom aren't supporting Linux. x86 losers could use ndiswrapepr and the windows drivers, but there is no such beast for ppc.06:50
walterl@wox:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards06:50
walter--- no soundcards ---06:50
walterl@wox:~$06:50
thoreauputicksmurf: yw :)06:50
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crimsunwalter: ok, then your card simply isn't supported yet06:50
cafuego_nfinitep1astik: on an iBook, your only alternatively would be a supported USB wifi dongle.06:50
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cafuego_s/alternatively/alternative/06:51
kaliascafuego_: I typed "ps - a" and it came back with 8312 pts/0 00:00:00 ps.  Is this good?06:51
crimsunwalter: I'll dig through the source, but I'm not optimistic06:51
walterokay thanks crimsun for the time you put in06:51
cafuego_kalias: /dev/pts/0 is where you're logged in./06:51
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brownie17GTG EVERYONE06:51
brownie17oops, sorry about caps06:51
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msfrankodat: try reading through /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  its a chore, but you might find something in there06:52
weerobbycafuego_: i thought linuxant worked with ppc linux and that uses win32 drivers06:52
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msfrankodat: like a misconfiguration or something06:52
professorWhats the command to report current system type (i386, 686, etc)?06:53
naliothprofessor: uname -a06:53
cafuego_weerobby: a ppc chip cannot execute w32 binaries (without an additional emulation layer).06:53
thoreauputicprofessor: uname -m06:53
professorthoreauputic, thx06:53
thoreauputicuname -a reports more06:53
professornalioth, thx06:53
kaliascafuego_: okay that was a silly question :(  Sorry.06:53
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ksmurfAnyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?06:54
Vaske_Carbenplaut: check this out: http://www.sodipodi.com/screenshots/new/sodipodi-0.32.jpg06:54
benplautyah, sodipodi06:54
crimsunwalter: ok, last try. We're going to need alsa-driver 1.0.10rc106:54
benplautlooks OK, but really confusing06:55
erik_Good people of Ubuntu, I need your help.  Whenever I run any SDL app, X-Windows dies instantly (and restarts).  Anyone seen this before?06:55
cafuego_Coz transparency is the shit, minus the 'the'.06:55
cafuego_erik_: Just for reference: "X" or "The X WIndow System"06:55
cafuego_Not "X-Windows"06:55
walterokay06:55
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benplautVaske_Car, and not in active dev, unfortunately :(06:56
erik_Okay.  Well, whatever it is that KDE and Gnome runs on -- dies instantly! :)06:56
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silvertondo I need to restart after installing "linux-restricted-modules" ?06:56
crimsunwalter: you need to apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential06:56
deFrysksilverton, nope afaIk06:57
silvertonokay, thanks06:57
crimsunwalter: then download ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz206:57
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jcd1006is there a way to make gaim not be in military time?06:59
walterfinnished downloading06:59
kaliascafuego_: How do I tell what the com ports are mapped to and if the drivers are running?06:59
crimsunwalter: did you install the other two packages?06:59
erik_Strangely, I get the same behavior (X dying) on both my PPC and x86 machine -- so I just wanted to know if others had run into this...06:59
naliothjcd1006: in your preferences, you can make the time say anything you like07:00
naliothjcd1006: system > preferences07:00
walterwas that part of the long command from eralier?07:00
Madpilotwhy do Americans always seem to refer to 24-hour time as "military time"? ... just curious...07:00
crimsunwalter: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential07:00
crimsunMadpilot: because "only" the military uses it07:01
cafuego_Madpilot: Because they're retarded.07:01
erik_Madpilot: The only thing in the US to use it is military -- and flight schedules.07:01
crimsun(not quite, but it's the way people are conditioned)07:01
ramahmost hospitals and restaurants use it also07:01
walterya i done that07:01
Vaske_Carbenplaut: what about this one: http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/screenshots.html07:01
cafuego_kalias: 'dmesg' should show you if the drivers are loaded (and what the ports are).07:01
erik_never seen a restaurant use it... hospitals I beleive.07:01
crimsunramah: quite a few areas use it, but most people are blind to it07:01
benplautVaske_Car, also not in active dev07:01
walterI have the latest version07:01
ramahic07:02
hyphenatedMadpilot: I'd prefer to know why they call it the world series, when they don't invite anybody else07:02
hyphenated(baseball)07:02
crimsunwalter: tar xfj alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz207:02
Vaske_Carbenplaut: so what do you prefer for Corel replacement?07:02
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cafuego_Madpilot: We are able to call 20:00 "eight o' clock", as opposed to twenty-houndred-hours!!!07:02
ramahwell they gota promote it somehow07:02
RedGhosthttp://img386.imageshack.us/img386/218/takebacktheweb1fd6qr.jpg07:02
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ramahno one watches baseball anymore anymore07:02
benplautVaske_Car, inkscape, although it's kinda limited07:03
Vaske_Car:)07:03
Madpilothyphenated: blame the New York World (newspaper) for the "World" Series... ;)07:03
benplauti sorta stopped doing vectors when i switched, unfortunately07:03
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cafuego_Madpilot: the altter is "military time" and the former "24h time".07:03
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Kazuhirohi all07:03
ramahhi07:04
[Spooky] anyone with a link for making a partition ?07:04
KazuhiroAny one running 5.10 and could tell me what version of ruby is installed07:04
erik_So I'm the only one here to have SDL kill X?07:04
cafuego_[Spooky] : 'fdisk'07:04
cafuego_!info ruby breezy07:04
uboturuby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB07:04
walterI dont seem to have that I have a .runfile07:04
Vaske_Carbenplaut: where did you find that sodipodi is not in active developement?07:04
kaliascafuego_: Okay, I see no reference in there to tty.  Does this mean the drivers are not loaded?07:04
tgainkscape?07:04
Madpilotcafuego_: sure - except that civilian pilots use "twenty-hundred-hours" as well... ah well, just one of those oddities...07:04
benplautlast time i looked, a few months ago07:04
cafuego_kalias: indeed. I'm fairly sure 'modprobe serial' ought to load 'em.07:05
Kazuhirocafuego_, Thanks for that07:05
crimsunwalter: afterward, cd alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1 && nano pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c07:05
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benplautVaske_Car, last release in 2004 (can't tell what month)07:05
kaliascafuego_: Bad news. Module serial not found.07:05
waltercrimsun,  the file i downloaded was a.runfile07:05
Vaske_Carroger... it need time .. maybe one day :)07:06
crimsunwalter: replace the line #include <linux/module.h> with  #include   <sound/driver.h>07:06
cafuego_Madpilot: Yes, but in piloting you need to make SURE you don't mess up. Like "Eight Papa Mike"07:06
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cafuego_kalias: woo!07:06
crimsunwalter: no, you want a tar.bz2. See the URL I pasted above.07:06
Kazuhiro!info gnome breezy07:06
ubotugnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB07:06
kaliascafuego_: Hmmm..that does not sound good :(07:06
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Vaske_Carbenplaut: no shadow option in Inscape?07:07
waltermy mistake im downloading the right one now and i will extraxt it then cd into that dir07:07
benplautVaske_Car, i don't think so...07:08
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benplautCorelDraw 11 is supposed to be emulatable, i've never gotten it to work07:08
bur[n] er_anyone else notice that breezy doesn't have a "run" option from teh menus??07:08
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Madpilotbur[n] er: i'd heard it was going to be removed...07:09
deFryskbur[n] er, use alt-f07:09
deFryskbur[n] er, use alt-f207:09
Myrttimornin all07:09
erik_morning?  where are you? (myrtti)07:09
deFryskalso run option is in 'add to panel' now07:10
Myrttioh mama what piccies07:10
Myrttihot love07:10
Myrttierm07:10
Myrttierik_: Finland07:10
thoreauputicMyrtti: is the "rose" irssi theme yours?07:11
walterone sec crimsun07:11
Myrttithoreauputic: yes07:11
Myrttitho I've updated it07:11
thoreauputicMyrtti: aha!07:11
Myrttithe one in the web has bugs with hilight07:11
erik_myrtti: think I'm on the other side of the world -- Hawaii07:11
naliothMyrtti: irssi themes?07:11
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Myrttinalioth: yes07:11
Myrttiand now, something completely different. http://www2.xfreehosting.com/teen/dapaura/nerd/07:12
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thoreauputicMyrtti: oh - any url for the fixed version?07:12
omp342do you guys know any note-taking applications that will sit in the taskbar and remind me to read the notes?07:12
Myrttinone, but I can put it on my web if you wanna07:12
omp342i seriously need a program like this07:12
Myrttiomp342: if you keep an todo, gtodo and gtodo-applett07:12
Myrttiif you run gnome07:12
thoreauputicMyrtti: if you can - I'll have a play with it :)07:12
omp342yes i have gnome07:13
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Myrttiyou'll find them in synaptic07:13
[Spooky] fdisk dosnt help mutch...07:13
omp342okay07:13
Myrttithoreauputic: one sec07:13
omp342thanks a lot07:13
kaliascafuego_: I checked my installed software and there doesn't appear to be any serial installed.07:13
[Spooky] anyone with a guide on creating/mounting a partition ?07:13
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Myrttithoreauputic: http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/roses.theme07:14
Dr_Willisgoogle has dozens of tutorials on  mounting drives07:14
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thoreauputicMyrtti: thanks :)07:14
Invader_ZimHow can I get sound to work in 3d games?07:14
jcd1006is there any code you can use in linux to spam someone in aim?07:14
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jcd1006or track their ip?07:14
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hyphenatedInvader_Zim: which game(s)?07:15
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Cashelhowdies07:15
Invader_ZimI have it working in all apps but no sound in tuxracer,kart for example.07:15
Myrttithoreauputic: it was made when I still lived in XP-bliss07:15
[Spooky] Dr_Willis: ok, but i need to create to be able to mount...07:15
Invader_ZimI have not tried quake yet.07:15
bur[n] er_deFrysk: thanks for the add to panel tip... i knew about alt+f2, but that's tough when using VNC ;)07:15
thoreauputicMyrtti: hah07:15
Myrttithoreauputic: so the rose leaves might look a bit funny07:15
Invader_ZimMissing sdl?07:15
thoreauputicMyrtti: I'll try it now07:15
Dr_Willis[Spooky] ,  that made no sence to me.07:16
wjesusaxlguys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it07:16
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naliothMyrtti: pardon my ignorance, but what does a theme do in irssi?07:16
kaliascafuego_:  Maybe I need to install one of the serial module in synaptic?07:16
bur[n] er_nalioth: colors07:16
Myrttinalioth: changes the colouring, perhaps adds a few bit07:16
Myrttilike my roses.07:16
naliothMyrtti: hmmm07:16
MyrttiIt underlines your own text07:16
bur[n] er_or like my blackasnight ;)07:16
wjesusaxlis there a way it could recognize the changes....07:16
MyrttiI like it that way, so I know when I've said something07:17
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Myrttilemme show you an old screenshot07:17
ksmurfAnyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?07:17
[Spooky] Dr_Willis: look at my question then...07:17
Invader_Zimok I'm changing sdloss to sdlalsa and sdlesd07:18
omp342Myrtti: i got both gtodo and gtodo-applet through apt-get, gtodo works fine, but how can i get it to show up in notification area?07:18
crimsunwalter: ping me when you're ready07:18
Myrttihttp://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/screenshotit.html07:18
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waltercrabstic,  it is currently #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"07:19
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thoreauputicMyrtti: aha! Nice! The roses look fine here :)07:19
Myrttiomp342: not in the notification area, I think07:19
wjesusaxlguys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it07:19
Myrttiyou put gtodo-applet on the panel07:19
omp342ohh07:19
omp342:)07:19
Myrttithat should do the trick, if I'm not mistaken07:19
omp342yay it worked07:20
omp342Myrtti: thanks A LOT :)07:20
Vaske_Carbenplaut: cant believe there is no tool that support shadow option...07:20
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Myrttiomp342: np :-)07:20
Myrttithoreauputic: thanks.07:20
benplautVaske_Car, like i was saying, it's feature lacking :(07:20
omp342now i can keep track of schoolwork :)07:20
MyrttiI have a new one that hasn't been released on t.i.o because the site is waiting for an update07:20
Myrttiit's green and black and yellow.07:20
Myrttibased on hukka-theme07:21
RedGhostis there a plugin to play .wmv with either vlc or totem07:21
thoreauputicMyrtti: I might have to tweak the highlighting - my messages disappear on this background - but I like it - thank you!07:21
Invader_ZimOk I fixed the sound in sdl .07:21
robotgeek!codecs07:21
ubotu[codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:21
Madpilot!tell RedGhost about restricted07:21
Myrttithoreauputic: :-)07:21
Myrttigeez I like this nailpolish07:22
robotgeekMyrtti: a irssi theme?07:22
Myrttirobotgeek: yes.07:22
Vaske_Car!streams07:22
ubotuVaske_Car: No idea07:22
walterCrimguy,  i am going to start over sorry07:22
nalioththoreauputic: you know what you wrote, anyway07:22
Invader_Zimanyone with sdl sound issues install libsdl1.2debian-esd07:22
robotgeekMyrtti: i use fear2 myself07:22
waltercrimsun,07:22
Myrttirobotgeek: I use my own :-)07:22
robotgeekMyrtti: good for you :)07:22
thoreauputicnalioth: hahah - oh I have a lousy short term memory ;)07:22
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Myrttihmmm07:22
bob2No1Viking: I didn't say gftp had SSL support07:22
Vaske_Car!winamp07:22
ubotuVaske_Car: Are you smoking crack?07:22
Myrttishould I take a new screenshot07:23
Vaske_Carlol07:23
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MyrttiI think I should07:23
Myrttibut before that...07:23
chavowhy does the bot always ask for crack?07:23
vividanHey guys, I'm having issues with X... it appears I'm stuck in 640x480.  Any willing to help me change that?07:23
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benplaut!xserver07:23
ubotubenplaut: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!07:23
chavo640x480 is all anyone should ever need :)07:24
benplaut!xserver-xorg07:24
ubotubenplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:24
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Madpilot!+msg the bot07:24
ubotumethinks msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword07:24
AzMooDoes anybody know why aterms transparency would screw up when I resize it, or change which desktop I'm viewing?07:24
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chavohigher resolutions cost extra07:24
benplautMadpilot, i know, i know07:24
Invader_Zimxorgconfig answer the questions.07:24
ramahthis question is kinda silly but my biggest problem is that I can't find the dirs for programs install with the package manager.. is there a place that most installs go?07:24
Invader_ZimMy error sudo xorgconfig07:24
benplautvividan, "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal07:24
bob2ramah: no, there's no single place07:24
vividanInvader_Zim, chavo, benplaut thanks07:25
bob2ramah: programs from packages usually go in /usr/bin, tho07:25
ramahthank you07:25
Madpilotramah: if you select an installed packing in Synpatic, right click, chose options, and one of the tabs will show you whre everything went07:25
waltercrabstic,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"07:25
Vaske_CarI still cant make online radio to play :(07:25
chavodamn, ubotu doesn't have any crack either07:25
Invader_ZimYou might need binary packages I did.07:25
ramahMadpilot: thanx07:25
waltercrimsun,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"07:25
crimsunwalter: ok, that's fine.07:25
crimsunwalter: sudo nano alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c07:25
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kaliasif you do modprobe serial and get FATAL: Module serial not found. What doe this mean?07:26
crimsunwalter: thereabout line 14 should be #include <linux/module.h>07:26
oolonVaske_Car, what site or app you trying to open it with?07:26
Cashelramah, doing a slocate -u one then after the eon it takes to finish doing "locate (part of package" helps me a lot when I'm trying to run down where things are....07:26
Vaske_Carwww.di.fm  there is a list07:26
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crimsunwalter: replace that with #include <sound/driver.h>07:26
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Vaske_Caroolon:scrool down07:27
No1Vikingbob2: Well it has07:27
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No1VikingSo you were right07:27
ChupacabrHi guys, trying to install kubuntu on my bondie blue imac, I keep getting an apic error, could anyone help me out, thanx in advance07:27
ramahCashel: Thank you07:27
oolonwhich one did you try?07:27
Cashelnp :)07:27
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Cashelramah, slocate -u  .. once I meant, not one :P07:27
walterdone and saved the file07:27
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oolonVaske_Car, which one did you try?07:28
Vaske_Cartrance  the first one07:28
Vaske_Carclick on 96k07:28
Chupacabris it possible to install kubuntu on such a prehistoric imac anyways, don't know if I'm wasting my time07:28
kaliascafuego_:  You still there?07:28
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Vaske_Caroolon: i used to play that with SuSE07:29
vividanbenplaut: sudo dpkg reconfigure xerver-org says it needs an action07:29
benplautoops07:29
oolonVaske_Car, i got a 404 error07:29
crimsunwalter: ok, now: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-isapnp=no --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build07:29
No1Vikingbob2: Needed openssl and libssl-dev + all depencies. After that I did ./configure --enable-ssl and gftp with SSL worked!  =)07:29
benplautsudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorgt07:29
benplautsudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg07:29
Vaske_Carsee that red square with yellow 96K ???07:29
No1Vikingbob2: dependencies, sorry07:29
naliothvividan: you forgot the "-" dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg07:29
Vaske_Carnear Winamp icon07:29
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vividanahhh, awesome07:30
oolonVaske_Car, i see i clicked it and got an error the link might be bad07:30
Vaske_Caroolon: it starting download here without problem07:31
Vaske_Caroolon: im using Firefox btw...07:31
walterit finnsihed07:31
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oolonVaske_Car, oh ok i was trying to open it with xmms directly07:32
crimsunwalter: after configure finishes, execute: make07:32
oolonVaske_Car, i'll dl the pls07:32
Vaske_Caroolon: it working now... with Rhythmbox07:32
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Vaske_Caroolon: strange07:32
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Vaske_Caroolon: this is direct link to put in the player: http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/100307:33
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crimsunwalter: after make completes, make install07:34
crimsunwalter: then you can reboot07:34
oolonVaske_Car, it's working in Kaffeine07:34
Vaske_Caroolon: thats Winamp clone?07:34
ChupacabrI'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help07:35
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walteralter: after make completes, make install07:36
waltercrimsun walter: then you can reboot07:36
waltersorry07:36
walterthere was compiler errors07:36
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kaliasexit07:36
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crimsunwalter: what sort?07:36
vividanbenplaut:  I'm still stuck at 640x480... I've attempted to modify my xorg.conf by hand.07:36
oolonVaske_Car, xine front end i belive07:36
benplauti can't really help...07:36
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waltermake[4] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.o]  Error 107:37
waltermake[3] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia/vx]  Error 207:37
waltermake[2] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia]  Error 207:37
waltermake[1] : *** [_module_/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1]  Error 207:37
waltermake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386'07:37
waltermake: *** [compile]  Error 207:37
robotgeekwalter: dont paste in here07:37
bob2er07:37
robotgeek!pastebin07:37
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:37
naliothwalter: do not paste in here07:37
bob2are you really sure you should be doing that?07:37
walterok sorry last time07:37
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Vaske_Carubotu: Kaffeine is just for KDA?07:37
ubotuVaske_Car: okay07:37
ChupacabrI'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help07:37
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crimsunwalter: you need to disable pcmcia, too, using a ./configure option07:38
robotgeekdamn, compiling vlc is a big pain!07:38
bob2Chupacabr: no need to repeat, everyone saw your question07:38
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walterok07:38
bob2you forgot to mention what version of kubuntu you were using, tho07:38
Chupacabrsorry, I'm so frustated and sleepy07:38
bob2nor whether any other distros work07:38
oolonVaske_Car, seems you need KDE07:39
Chupacabr5.0407:39
Vaske_Car:(07:39
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vividanAnyone else have an idea why X would use 640x480 when it's config file says nothing about 640x480?07:39
oolonVaske_Car, have no fear http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases07:40
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bob2because that's the default that it found07:40
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ChupacabrI've only tried the 5.04 Kubuntu live cd, I'm sick of mac os and would like to try out kubuntu07:40
bob2presumably you already read the page on the wiki for fixing this07:40
bob2in which case, file a bug07:40
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vividanthe wiki is somewhere on ubuntu.org?07:40
reteryou know how you can connect to a ssh in 'places'07:40
oolonvividan, is it a live disc running in framebuffer?07:40
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naliothvividan: wiki.ubuntu.com07:40
bob2vividan: wiki.ubuntu.com07:40
walterwhats the argument to disable pcmcia07:40
crimsunrobotgeek: why are you recompiling vlc?07:41
bob2vividan: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:41
Chupacabrso it could be a file on the disk right07:41
reterwell i am connected to ssh but i dont know how to type in commands. i get like a windows like menu with no prompt07:41
vividancool, nope, fresh install of ubuntu (my first ubuntu install, been using linux/debian for years)07:41
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bob2reter: ignore it then and use ssh normally07:41
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bob2Chupacabr: "it"?07:41
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Chupacabrthe error that I'm getting could be related to a file on the live cd07:42
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reterreter: but how do i get the prompt command07:42
reterbob2: but how do i get the prompt command07:42
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bob2reter: I don't know what a "prompt command" is07:43
bob2Chupacabr: did yo ucheck the the md5sum of the cd?07:43
ChupacabrI'm a noob so sorry, seen my friend using ubuntu and since I saw the new kubuntu release I thought I'd try it07:43
Vaske_CarIm very happy with Ubuntu :) found all I need except vector drawing software that have shaddow support :)07:43
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Chupacabreverything seemed fine on the md5sum bob207:44
reterbob2: like c:/07:44
bob2reter: this is not DOS07:44
bob2Chupacabr: "seemed fine"?07:44
reterbob2: i know but i am giving an example of what i mean07:44
crimsunwalter: (test-building)07:44
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silvertonhow do I get firefox to update?07:44
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ChupacabrI compared it to the same file which my friend has on his live cd and it is exact07:45
bob2reter: so, open gnome-terminal, and run 'ssh user@hostname'07:45
waltercrimsun,  what do i do07:45
silvertonnevermind, I got it07:45
bob2Chupacabr: what file are you talking about?07:45
karen_added a 2nd CD drive.  is there something I need to do to make it automount?07:45
bob2silverton: firefox in hoary is the latest version...07:45
vuNeed help installinjg ubuntu on a laptop with a very old CDROM that cannot boot the iso image I downloaded.07:45
bimberireter, connecting through the places menu is like using sftp - you need to use ssh from the terminal07:45
Chupacabrth2 md5sum on the live cd07:45
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karen_vu - SMB... just a sec07:45
CaiN_SAok07:46
CaiN_SAi had breezy07:46
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jcd1006is there a way to set up ubuntu so that after the computer being idle or so long it will make you reenter the password to do anything on it?07:46
CaiN_SAor hoary rather07:46
CaiN_SAand uppdated it to breezy07:46
bob2jcd1006: sure, tell it to lock the screen07:46
CaiN_SAhow do i get usplash to work ?07:46
CaiN_SAbob2, :P elo07:46
bob2jcd1006: system -> preferences -> screensaver07:46
jcd1006bob2: will like gaim stay connected?07:46
karen_vu - SMB https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto07:46
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CaiN_SAyes jcd100607:47
bob2jcd1006: of course, all it does is lock the screen07:47
CaiN_SA!usplash07:47
ubotusomebody said usplash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss07:47
AzMooHow can I see what speed my harddrive is running at? It seems to be going very slowly.07:47
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bob2AzMoo: "speed"?07:47
CaiN_SAhdparm /dev/hdd07:47
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Chupacabrthanks for all the help guys, boy am I glad I checked out the channel07:47
AzMoobob2, udma66 100, etc07:47
bob2CaiN_SA: read mdz's post on the topic07:47
bob2Chupacabr: wtf07:47
AzMooCaiN_SA, cheers07:47
bob2idiot07:47
CaiN_SAwheres that bob2  ?07:47
Masterkongyo07:48
Masterkongi have a question07:48
vukaren_,  Lemme check it out thanx ;-)07:48
Madpilot!tell Masterkong about ask07:48
bob2CaiN_SA: http://lwn.net/Articles/148200/07:48
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AzMoohrmm. using_dma is on. Why the hell is my box going so slow? :(07:49
Masterkongoops wrong button07:49
Masterkongok07:49
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bob2glxgears07:49
bob2is07:49
bob2not07:49
bob2a07:49
bob2benchmark07:49
bob2at07:49
bob2all07:49
No1VikingLOL07:49
CashelI know hehe07:49
[Chameleon] ok07:49
[Chameleon] bob207:49
bimberil. o. l.07:49
AzMoobut its cool to say you got 1500 fps ;)07:50
CaiN_SAthx bob207:50
bob2few things annoy me more than people who just put my nick on a line07:50
CaiN_SAlol07:50
bob2with nothing else07:50
CaiN_SAyou can benchmark your hdd07:50
crimsunwalter: here's the configure line you need: ./configure --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-isapnp=no --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-pcmcia=kernel07:50
CaiN_SAwith hdparm !!!!!!!!!!107:50
crimsunwalter: it compiles fine here07:50
CaiN_SAit has a paramater07:50
CaiN_SAto do it07:50
bob2hdparm is also not a benchmarking tool07:50
bob2bonnie++ is the tool you'd use for that07:50
CaiN_SAyes07:50
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CaiN_SAbut you can test your hdd07:50
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CaiN_SAwith hdparm07:50
bob2not usefully07:51
Cashelbob2, so if I'm trying to improve opengl performance, what should I do?07:51
bob2do you know what -tT tests?07:51
CaiN_SAwill get you rough idea07:51
bob2Cashel: you haven't given nearly enough detail for me to guess07:51
CaiN_SAthere are 2 tests bob207:51
waltercrabstic, will i just do another make07:51
bob2CaiN_SA: do you know what either of them do?07:51
Masterkongi've got my soundcard to play other samples right than 48kHz, wich it didnt do before.. anyway.. i seem to be stuck with som sort of "clicking" in my speakers when i play anything07:51
AzMooI seem to have a severe lack of system resources. It's taking about 30 seconds to open firefox, a good 5 seconds to switch between desktops, and the harddrive is going nuts. Any idea how I can speed it up, or find what's using everything?07:51
Masterkongplus the sound i'm playing of course07:52
omp342hmm07:52
CaiN_SAtests random read speeds07:52
crimsunwalter: after you rerun that configure, yes07:52
CaiN_SAand stuff07:52
CaiN_SAi dont use it07:52
bob2AzMoo: and the system specs are and the the version of ubuntu is and the dma status is ...07:52
CashelI just updated from fglrx_6_8_0-8.14.13 to fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20 in hopes of getting a better fps (1500 seems to slow compared to what others were getting in glxgears) .. at first xorg was having problems finding libgl until I used a dpkg-divert line so it would work.. now the new driver is working as opengl but apps such as glxgears or gl-117 seg fault after a little bit of use... any ideas what my problem might be?07:52
bob2CaiN_SA: no, it doesn't test that07:52
CaiN_SAthen what07:52
bob2read the manpage07:52
CaiN_SAif your hdd is f,....07:52
CaiN_SAyou will be able to see07:52
bob2if you want to test your disk, use bonnie++07:52
crimsunwalter: then, make && make install07:52
omp342when i test port 6881 in azureus it says okay, but almost all torrents get a connetion refused error when connecting to tracker07:52
crimsunwalter: sorry, need to leave work now07:52
AzMoobob2, celeron 2Ghz, 256MB of RAM. Hoary. dma status = on.07:52
bob2Cashel: the ATI drivers in ubuntu didn't work at all?07:53
Cashelbob2, only as 2d07:53
bob2Cashel: no, I mean, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
CaiN_SAbob2 :  -t     Perform  timings  of device reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.07:53
Invader_ZimI got flgrx to work on amd based stuff07:53
bob2the ATI binary drivers07:53
bob2CaiN_SA: yes, I read the manpage07:53
CaiN_SA-T     Perform  timings  of  cache reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.07:53
CaiN_SAthus07:53
CaiN_SAhe will be able07:53
Cashelthose are the ati binary drivers.... let me go read that url I'm not following I guess...07:54
CaiN_SAto se07:54
CaiN_SAif dma is on07:54
Madpilotanyone else noticed that SoundJuicer rips to FLAC far, far quicker than it rips to .ogg?07:54
CaiN_SAor of07:54
CaiN_SAor if the hdd is nuked or not07:54
walterCrimguy I dont hat but im still geting the pcmia comple errors07:54
bob2CaiN_SA: dude, try to use complete sentences on single lines07:54
deFryskMadpilot, flac is less compressed ;)07:54
AzMooCaiN_SA, well, it says it's on, and it seems to be working, albeit slowly.07:54
waltermaybeI need to delete the old files first07:54
bob2Cashel: no, you installed some random binary driver from outside ubuntu07:54
bob2Cashel: did the binary drivers from ubuntu work or not?07:54
CaiN_SAsigh bob207:54
CaiN_SAAzMoo, hmm07:54
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MadpilotdeFrysk: I know, it's just interesting that the compression of .ogg takes so much time07:55
CaiN_SAAzMoo, isnt there a scanning service or something running07:55
No1VikingHow to uninstall compiled installed software?07:55
bob2CaiN_SA: yes, I read it, and neither of those tests have anything to do with how a disk performs in real life07:55
waltercrimsun I done hat but im still geting the pcmia comple errors07:55
Masterkongis there any reason i shouldnt use totem movie player?07:55
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AzMoo2MB of ram free :\07:55
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CaiN_SAthat is reading from the hdd the whole time ?07:55
bob2No1Viking: read the instructions that came with it07:55
deFryskMadpilot, more comprassion takes more power07:55
bob2No1Viking: it may not be possible07:55
No1Vikingbob2: ok07:55
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Masterkongand where do i find out what codecs i have installed07:55
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bob2make uninstall might work07:55
Invader_ZimYah for some reason compressing ogg works better on an opteron then anything else.07:55
Cashelbob2, ahh I see now they worked more or less the same as 8.14.1307:55
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Cashelthink it was only about 80-100 fps difference...07:56
bob2Cashel: "mor or less"?07:56
AzMooCaiN_SA, pretty much everytime I try to do something it spends a few seconds on the harddrive.07:56
Cashelthey worked, not quite as fast but near enough...07:56
bob2Cashel: if they perform worse than they shou,d file a bug07:56
oolonMasterkong, they might be in /usr/lib/win3207:56
MadpilotdeFrysk: yeah. of course, in .flac the 1812 Overature is now nearly 200Mb... :P but it ripped in less than 5 minutes!07:56
Invader_Zim200mb ouch you might as use wav.07:57
CashelSo theres nothing besides driver changes I can do to improve performance then?07:57
walterokay im going I will have to do without sound for awhile07:57
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CaiN_SAAzMoo, ok see i had klamav running, so my hdd also did that, so check if you have any kind of scanning or something running that is making hdd access slow07:57
Adrossis breezy stable enough for normal use now?07:57
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bob2maybe the GoReallyFast option is disabled by default or something07:57
IceDC571Adross, pretty much :)07:57
Invader_ZimI can rip an ogg in less time then it take for the file to play.07:57
deFryskMadpilot, again more compression , > more time consuming07:57
Invader_Zimencode07:58
bob2running a virus scanner across your hard disk is utterly pointless07:58
bob2don't even bother07:58
HajuuHey :) Anyone know how to configure firestarter to allow GAIM access to the internet?07:58
FR500what would you use as a clamav scheduled scan?07:58
FR500home folders?07:58
AdrossIceDC571: you sure? and are there any problems with backports?07:58
bob2holy god07:58
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bob2someone actually made "klamav"07:58
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recurs|vei need to mount a folder on my freebsd box on my laptop, how do I do this?07:58
CaiN_SAAdross, i run breezy07:58
IceDC571well last time i was on it which was a few days back, it was completely stable and the repositories were well synced07:58
CaiN_SAon other pc and it works like a charm07:58
IceDC571but yeah, ask people around07:58
bob2recurs|ve: how do you plan to share it?07:58
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MadpilotInvader_Zim: nah, I've got a big drive with nothing else one it, it might as well fill up with music!07:59
Invader_ZimHeck it's fast even on a sempron 340007:59
IceDC571Colony 4 should be a HUGE improvement from the previous releases07:59
FR500bob2: not bad idea klamav, good to know what clamav is doing07:59
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AdrossCaiN_SA: did you use backports before upgrading though?07:59
IceDC571Invader_Zim, sempron 3400?? i didnt know it went up that high07:59
Invader_ZimBut then the  AMD chips have far better busses and cache then the usual intel offering.07:59
Invader_ZimYep they do07:59
bob2FR500: it's stupid, there's no need to scan linux machines for viruses07:59
jcd1006how can i make firefox let me use extensions, add bookmarks, and install plug ins?07:59
FR500bob2: not yet07:59
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Vaske_CarIt would be nice idea to create an aplication that will be able to backup all settings and data for most used aplications in case of reinstalation...07:59
IceDC571Invader_Zim, whats the clock speed? im thinking of overclocking my 2500+07:59
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holycowbob2, but that kaspersky fella says you must!!!~08:00
CaiN_SAAdross, i ran hoary and updated it to breezy08:00
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holycowbob2, how can someone with a name like kasperky be wrong?08:00
Invader_ZimI recomend the new semprons over the celeron d.08:00
FR500Vaske_Car: most of the time all you gotta do is backup your home08:00
IceDC571omg linux is so much more stable than windows when you're overclocking.. well.. until you start compiling08:00
Adrosskk, gonna update08:00
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bob2FR500: how would a virus get onto my machine?08:00
Vaske_CarFR500 for evolution as well?08:00
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Madpilotholycow: who says?08:00
FR500Vaske_Car: not sure08:00
Invader_ZimGet a good fan it should run as a 280008:00
holycowFR500, the person that writes a virus that actually spreads indiscriminately on linux machines will be automatically hired by ibm or the like08:00
holycowto do it you need to bloody know you stuff08:01
HajuuHey :) Anyone know how to configure firestarter to allow GAIM access to the internet?08:01
holycowMadpilot, kasperky ... lemme get a link, it was a real bs article08:01
FR500bob2: most of the time there are M$/Linix networks sharing files08:01
bob2Hajuu: you need to be a lot more specific08:01
IceDC571haha.. someone could just spread an rm -rf /* virus and get famous for writing nothing08:01
IceDC571its all about how you distribute it08:01
FR500bob2: it's good that your linux box can stop the viruses08:01
holycowFR500, that makes no difference08:01
bob2FR500: and how would it get to run on my computer?08:01
holycowFR500, you need to know more about linux before you can say that08:01
chavoI've got a 2600+ XP-M running at 2.4Ghz with stock fan08:01
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levanderAnybody knows how to tell ncftp to connect to an ftp server with passive mode?08:02
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FR500holycow: i'm not saying it would affect the linux box, i say it could help stopping the viruses08:02
IceDC571chavo, i went down to my local fry's electronics shop and i was pissed because they said "we dont carry anymore athlon xp's! only semprons!"08:02
IceDC571so i had no choice but to get a sempron08:02
DocAnsiI use a Sempron08:02
HajuuBob2: How so? For most applications it just has a list of installed applications which you can select to allow access to the internet, gaim does not appear in this list.. I can do it by ports, but I have no idea what ports MSN uses....08:02
chavoAh I got mine from newegg.com08:02
Invader_ZimWell don't worry even a sempron is better then a celleron08:02
Vaske_Cari have Athlon 1700 for sale08:02
holycowFR500, there are no known virus definitions08:03
bob2wow, firestarter is bizaare then08:03
chavoI replaced an 1800+08:03
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Invader_ZimCelrons are crap I have a few08:03
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IceDC571haha.. any celeron is crap08:03
bob2Hajuu: because gaim uses about half a dozen network protocols, not all of which actually work through firewalls08:03
Vaske_Car1800+ is not the same as 180008:03
ParisiYes they are ;p08:03
holycowFR500, what that means is no one has successfully released one in the wild, can it help? depends because the exploit would need to be pretty good08:03
JuhazIceDC571, socket-a sempron basically _is_ athlon xp08:03
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chavohave a celeron 2Ghz in my laptop and the 1800+ at 1.5Ghz smoked it08:03
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holycowhttp://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/5997/1/  <-- claims linux will become a target soon08:03
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IceDC571Juhaz, well.. as for as OC'ing goes, how is the sempron?08:03
FR500holycow: isn't the idea behind clamav that? for example scanning mail so it wont reach the users08:03
AzMooerr, is there supposed to be 2 gdm processes running?08:04
FR500holycow: same could be applied to ftp servers08:04
Hajuubob2: Right-o. I don't neccisarilly want it to work *through* the firewall.. I wouldn't mind setting up msn's ports so that firestarter ignored them...08:04
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holycowno clamav only checks for windows viruses08:04
Invader_ZimIt's sad when a sempron 1600 beats a celly 2.208:04
Vaske_Caranybody running 64Bit Ubuntu?08:04
JuhazIceDC571, dunno about that, haven't really been paying any attention to oc'ability of anything for few years08:04
nalioththe processor talk should migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic08:04
holycowas there are no known linux virus definitions08:04
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IceDC571Invader_Zim, are you serious?!? show me!! :)08:04
bob2Vaske_Car: if you mean "amd64", do say so08:04
Invader_ZimI wonder is intel just living on marketing?08:04
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Invader_Zimserious08:04
DocAnsiholycow: well, there are a few worms for Linux. and, Viruses usually need Root access to spread indiscriminately, so either the user would need to run the infected program as root, or the virus would need to abuse an exploit to elevate UID to root.08:04
LugWhat is a good CAD program for linux?08:04
Invader_ZimI did have the 1600 oced to 1800+08:05
FR500holycow: that is what i mean, i never said your linux box can be infected, i know the virii are windows virii08:05
Vaske_CarI menat ubuntu 64bit version of OS08:05
aberrantug...anyone here know how to configure a samba share on ubuntu for windows xp?08:05
holycowDocAnsi, thats exactly the issue indeed08:05
Vaske_Car!tell samba08:05
FR500aberrant: you want to share folders on your box?08:05
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HajuuInvader_Zim:  My 1700 is running at 2000+ right now.... Uptime of like a week too. heh08:05
holycowFR500, sorry dude, didn't mean to act like an idiot :) it comes naturally08:05
holycowhehe08:05
FR500no prob08:05
FR500lol08:05
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IceDC571linux users are smart enough to check what they're about to run before they actually run it08:05
aberranti want to share from ubunut to windows08:05
holycowIceDC571, for now anyway08:05
bob2aberrant: install samba.  configure smb.conf. enjoy.08:05
aberrant!tell samba08:05
IceDC571unless you just do as you're told and wget ; sh run.sh08:05
holycowi can imagine exploits increasing08:06
FR500aberrant:  it's as easy as System->Shared Folders after insatlling samba08:06
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aberrantFR500, i did08:06
FR500and?08:06
Invader_ZimI want a turion based laptop with a mobile radeon.08:06
chavowell my 2600+ M is running at 2.4Ghz, don't know what that relates to in the naming08:06
holycowi cannot see exploits becoming as prevalent as on windows08:06
luckyabaaberrant: is it ntfs or fat3208:06
Hajuu*sigh* Oh well.08:06
holycowunless everyone starts using lindows maybe or something like that that runs users as root08:06
HajuuThanks uh. anyway.08:06
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Vaske_Carthere is a guide in ubuntu web site for samba with ready smb.conf files08:06
aberrantthe folders are shared..but windows sez the 'network path could not be found'08:06
amy_hi, I'm wondering if has apt-get dist-upgrade'ed after adding the sources from the unofficial Ubuntu startup guide.  (I'm wondering if there are system stability repercussions)08:06
chavomy bios reports it as unknow processor08:06
aberrantits ext308:06
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FR500IceDC571: the smartness of linux users will decrease at the same rate as it reaches desktops............08:07
Invader_ZimI'm sick of the usless intel media go slow in the notebook I have.08:07
FR500lol08:07
IceDC571well.. the fact that most other directories are restricted to root is one very nice advantage to viruses, you would need the root's password to delete everything08:07
aberranti can ping my ubuntu box, but I cant see the shares that are presumably 'shared' on ubunut08:07
FR500aberrant: can you try to access by ip address?08:07
Invader_Zimi865 or some crap08:07
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bimberiamy_: you'll probably be ok but you should disable any backports and hoary-extras repositories before doing any more dist-upgrades08:08
Vaske_Caraberrant: http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver08:08
eva-02where can i find a breezy install cd?08:08
IceDC571i'm getting an ibook soon, samba servers are compatible with osx out the of box right?08:08
Vaske_Caraberrant: did you install firewall?08:08
aberrantVaske_Car, thanks...I followed that guide but not luck08:09
aberrantVaske_Car,  no firewall08:09
CaiN_SAeva-02 : ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-4/breezy-install-i386.iso08:09
aberrantVaske_Car, firewall is off08:09
eva-02ty08:09
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Invader_ZimOk it's an 855M you sure cannot play games on them.08:09
IceDC571eva-02, remember to use the uk mirror if its too slow for you, thats what i did08:09
Vaske_Carim using samba as well without problems. You have to configure Windows too to accept netbios not domain...08:09
amy_bimberi: ah, so it might be bad idea then.  I read something about "apt-pinning".  Would that be a more streamlined solution08:09
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amy_?08:10
aberrantVaske_Car, netbios?  where?08:10
bimberiamy_: sorry i've only hear about apt-pinning myself, never used it08:10
FR500aberrant: i pm'd u08:10
FR500aberrant: did you read?08:10
FR500Vaske_Car: Windows accepts netbios as default08:11
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Vaske_Caraberrant: do you use samba 'security = user' or 'security = share'?08:11
bimberiamy_: if there's something from backports or extras that i want i'll enable them to install, then disable (poor man's pinning perhaps :) )08:12
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amy_bimberi: the "http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?AptPinning" document is the one I read.  It doesn't look too difficult to set up.  "Poor man's pinning"  :-)08:13
A-L-P-H-Ais there a breezy iso?08:13
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eva-02[02:09:am]  <CaiN_SA> eva-02 : ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-4/breezy-install-i386.iso08:13
eva-02:)08:13
bimberiamy_: thanks, must have a look :)08:13
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A-L-P-H-Aeva-02, thanks... [I hope you're not a bot] 08:14
Vaske_Caraberrant: basically you have to set same workgroup in smb.conf and in Windows clients, disable windows firewalls (third party) and make sure samba is started in Ubuntu08:14
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aberrantVaske_Car, how do you make sure samba is started in ubuntu?  I thought it was client driven?08:14
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Vaske_Caraberrant: that way you should be able to see it from Windows08:14
amy_bimberi:  I think that if one substitutes "hoary" for "testing", and "backports, or whatever" for "unstable", then it would work ok.08:14
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bimberiamy_: kk08:15
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Vaske_Caraberrant: im not sure :(   with fedora its "service smb start"08:15
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FR500Vaske_Car: it's sudo /init.d/samba restart08:16
aberrantVaske_Car, no worries..thanks for the pointers08:16
aberrantFR500 ah!08:16
FR500aberrant: can you check something for me?08:16
FR500type ls /etc/init.d08:16
aberrantFR500, yes...shoot08:16
Vaske_Caraberrant: try this "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"08:16
aberrantsamba is there08:16
Vaske_Caror start08:16
FR500las time i installed samba was a red name, so it was not executable08:16
FR500dunno why08:17
FR500so it didnt work at that point08:17
aberrantstarting samba demons [ok] 08:17
No1Viking!tell samba08:17
robotgeekFR500: probably it was a dangling symlink or something08:17
aberrantvictory!!08:17
FR500robotgeek: yes08:17
FR500aberrant: can you see it now?08:17
aberrantthanks FR500  and Vaske_Car !08:17
Vaske_Caraberrant: are you sure that workgroup in smb.conf and workgroup of Windows are the same?08:17
aberrantthe restart did it08:17
Vaske_Caroh08:18
FR500aberrant: ensure it's executable so after rebooting it werks08:18
aberrantstrange08:18
aberrantit is08:18
CaiN_SAerm08:18
aberranti think i know what might have happened08:18
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FR500aberrant: most of the time services need to be restarted after reconfiguring08:18
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FR500aberrant: and most of the guis dont do that i think08:18
aberranti had a folder shared and I deleted it..and rebooted...maybe samba choked on start08:18
Vaske_Caryou have to restart samba after each modification.. however it should restart itself for about 60sec... if im not wrong08:18
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aberrantexcellent...now I can watch the simpsons :-)08:19
FR500aberrant: afaik, the shared folder thingy in ubuntu works great, but i have been using the same old smb.conf since my first fc3 install here08:19
Vaske_Car:)08:19
FR500so i havent tested it08:19
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FR500i'll do when breezy comes :p08:19
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aberrantthere should probably be notes in the wikis on how to check everything in the whole chain of samba...can you ping the host, is samba running, etc08:20
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FR500aberrant: you can always help08:20
FR500aberrant: you can ammend it08:20
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Madpilotaberrant: did I just hear you volunteering to help with the wiki? ;)08:21
DocAnsican we kick the bots?08:21
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aberrantheh..sure...after the simpson ;-)08:21
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FR500Madpilot: good way to scare them right'08:21
FR500?08:21
aberranti shud give something back...ubuntu is pretty slick...defnutly a convert08:21
FR500kewl08:21
DocAnsisomeone is operating a botnet and making the clients connect to this channel, and then leave.08:21
aberranti have my main box and my powerbook running ubuntu08:22
Vaske_CarI seted-up samba. vsftpd... last week and hard-drive break before i did backup :(08:22
aberrantonly my home theater is still windonts08:22
MadpilotFR500: the wiki isn't scary; if you want scary, have a look at the DocTeam's XML stuff... eek!08:22
scanwinderi installed wine earlier.....and now in opera, the font for "file", "edit" etc has changed to some really messed up one that i cant read properley08:22
scanwinderany ideas why that would happen?08:22
FR500Madpilot: i havent seen it, but i think it's much like a forum right?08:22
Vaske_Carcan opera Profile be inported from Windows to Linux (with Wand) ?08:22
aberrantthanks again Vaske_Car and FR500...gnite08:22
Vaske_Carcya man08:23
FR500aberrant: no prob08:23
FR500lol08:23
MadpilotFR500: no, the actual docs - like the Ubuntu help docs - are formatted in XML, and they're big, messy docs..08:23
chavoscanwinder, see if you have -> qtconfig08:23
Invader_ZimHow do I make gnome update new apps in it's menu?08:23
FR500Madpilot: i asked you, is the wiki something like a Forum?08:23
chavoInvader_Zim, it should auto update08:24
FR500Invader_Zim: open a terminal, non root08:24
FR500and killall gnome-panel08:24
MadpilotFR500: the wiki is... like a wiki, not much like a forum. check it out, wiki editing isn't that hard08:24
scanwinderchavo: how do i check that? is it a package?08:24
FR500ok08:24
chavotry to run it in a terminal08:24
DocAnsia wiki is a bit like a blog08:24
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MadpilotVaske_Car: most of Opera's settings should be usable in both Win & Ubuntu - I moved my opera bookmarks file over from XP to Ubuntu08:25
scanwinderchavo: it cant find it if i try 2 run it08:25
chavook08:25
FR500Invader_Zim: did it work? don't do it with sudo btw08:25
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DocAnsia wikipedia is an encyclopedia in which random users can add information, and then it will be evaluated by a board, and some of the material will be marked as "incomplete" or "junk", and some is marked as "useful".08:25
Vaske_CarMadpilot: im more interested about WAND08:25
CaiN_SAcan any1 tell me08:25
CCFIELhello when i acces this site http://www.entrepreneur.com.ph/board/ ubuntu display garbagge but in xp it works well. what is the reason?08:26
CaiN_SAhow do i get usplash to work ?08:26
CaiN_SAit tells me no splash found08:26
CCFIELCain_Sa: beter use upower08:26
Invader_ZimWell I still do not see the games I installed08:26
CCFIELits more updated08:26
FR500Invader_Zim: what games?08:26
amy_is hoary-security necessary if one is tracking hoary?  For example, both repositories carry the same, updated version of xpdf08:26
Invader_ZimI just installed abuse08:26
CaiN_SAthere isnt a package called upower08:26
Parisi_zZzCCFIEL Its the Ubuntu, its the browser itself!08:26
Vaske_CarMadpilot: did you get free Opera licence few days ago?08:27
Parisi_zZzCCFIEL Its Firefox08:27
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FR500maybe it doesnt makes icons08:27
MadpilotVaske_Car: which file does Opera store Wand settings in? it's probably the same across all versions of Opera08:27
CCFIELparisi: i know08:27
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DocAnsiCCFIEL use Konqueror08:27
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MadpilotVaske_Car: yup, I did. nice birthday gift to us!08:27
amy_is hoary-security more for "security updates, and only security updates", which hoary is for "updates for bugs AND security"?08:27
Invader_ZimWell abuse tuxracer tuxkart gxmane chromium .08:27
CCFIELparisi: no its now firefox because im using firexfox in xp08:27
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Vaske_CarMadpilot: its all in folder called Profile in Opera directory08:27
CCFIELparisi: no its not firefox because im using firexfox in xp08:27
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Vaske_Carafter version 8.0008:27
Parisi_zZzCCFIEL I get the same garbage under Firefox on XP08:28
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Parisi_zZzCCFIEL But explorer works fine, thus why i assumed that.08:28
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MadpilotVaske_Car: I left XP before Opera 8 came out; not sure what's changed - but check Opera's website, they've got good descriptions of what each file does.08:28
Vaske_CarMadpilot: i know it, im just not sure if they are comptabile with Linux platform08:29
CCFIELparisi: it work in my xp with firefox08:29
CCFIELbut in linux did not08:29
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Parisi_zZzStrange.08:30
CCFIELok ill try konqueror08:30
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Parisi_zZzMaybe your browser is showing itself as Explorer, but mine isnt.08:30
Parisi_zZzYou would be suprised ;p08:30
MadpilotVaske_Car: most of the Opera settings files seem to be identical across platforms...08:30
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Vaske_Carroger08:31
Parisi_zZznite all08:31
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brownie17nalioth: why when ui tried to ru na games called "barrage' it told me there were no available audio packages?08:32
CCFIELparisi: ur right08:32
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Vaske_Caranybody know a link to ubuntu shell small tutorial?08:32
CCFIELits a browser issue08:32
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amy_nope, hoary-security is most certainly needed.  If anyone is interested in the whole "pinning" thing, then it should go above hoary08:33
CCFIELi tried konqueror its ok08:33
Vaske_Car!tell shell08:33
naliothbrownie17: you are having sound issues08:33
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aftertafVaske_Car:  yes08:33
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Parisi_zZzCCFIEL tryi changing the settings for your Firefox browser under Linux, i bet that will fix it.08:33
aftertaf!tell Vaske_Car about cli08:33
brownie17nalioth: :) obviously: do i need driver?08:33
brownie17nalioth: i have just been relying on the standard08:33
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naliothbrownie17: i'm not much on sound issues, sorry08:34
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CCFIELparisi: ok thanks!08:34
aftertafVaske_Car:  the linuxcommand.org site is v good08:34
brownie17nalioth:08:34
brownie17ok08:34
robotgeeknalioth: offtopic, but did u check out the wmv 9 codec under linux/OS X?08:34
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aftertafbrownie17:  if u were on kde, i could advise n arts, but u aint ;)08:34
nalioth robotgeek i run ppc, no w32codec will work for me08:34
brownie17madpilot: i have a sound error, a game told me there were no available audio drivers, what do i do?08:34
robotgeeknalioth: http://nanocrew.net/?p=12908:34
Vaske_Carafterafterfat: tx08:34
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robotgeeknalioth: i am on ppc too, that's why i am excited!08:35
brownie17aftertaf: :) oh well. maybe one day i'll go to KDE of xfce08:35
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aftertafafterfat ? cheers!!! :p08:35
CaiN_SAok08:35
CaiN_SAusplash08:35
CaiN_SAis l33t08:35
brownie17aftertaf: ahhahahaha08:35
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Madpilotbrownie17: try "killall esd" before you start the game - and restart esd afterward with just "esd"...08:35
vuu08:36
brownie17madpilot: umm... i don't think i am using ESD, i think i replaced it with ALSA????08:36
amy_There, it works!  I'm going to paste my /etc/apt/preferences in #paste08:36
robotgeeknalioth: cool, ain't it?08:36
naliothrobotgeek: i'm readin, gimme a minute08:36
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robotgeeknalioth: ah okay08:36
Madpilotbrownie17: in that case, I have no idea, sorry...08:36
brownie17madpilot: OOOKKKKK.... i am so confused.... it worked. and i thought i set it to turn off when it wasnt being used08:37
amy_bimberi: or did you get it working for yourself by now?  :-)08:37
Madpilotbrownie17: I think sound on Linux confuses far, far tech-savvier people that you & I! ;)08:37
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Kazuhiroany one got a quick tip on using ndiswrapper?08:39
omp342brownie17: gnome is the best, aftertaf doesn't know what he's talking about. :D08:40
bimberiamy_: no, it's on the todo list :)08:40
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Red_Bulletcan i install xfce to my ubuntu08:41
Red_Bullet?08:41
Red_Bulletplease help me08:41
robotgeeknalioth: boom, ran into a bug!08:41
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: sudo apt-get install xfce408:41
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thoreauputic!info xfce408:41
ubotuxfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB08:41
Red_Bulletthoreauputic,08:41
Red_Bullet10x08:41
naliothRed_Bullet: yes, give us time to answer08:41
aless hi, is there a command in linux to send short messages between08:42
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alessonline users?08:42
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robotgeekaless: on the same subnet?08:43
linnerhey ya'll... she's baaa-ack :)08:43
alessrobotgeek: yep08:43
Invader_Zimwhare does the samba browser mount the shares by defualt?08:43
Myrttilinpopup08:43
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Myrtti:-)08:43
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Myrttitalk or smthn08:43
thoreauputic*g*08:43
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brownie17omp342: :) poor old aftertaf.08:44
dapimp53Hey everyone. Quick question. I had a dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu and I had to reinstall windows so now it doesnt ask me which system I want to boot. When I open Partition Magic from my Windows Partition it shows the Ubuntu install. What I want to know is how do I get GRUB to start asking which partition I want to use again?08:44
brownie17aftertaf: what is so good about KDE anyway?08:44
linnerheheheheh08:44
HrdwrBoB!windows08:44
ubotumethinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative08:44
linnerfunny thoreauputic08:44
linner:)08:44
HrdwrBoB!boot08:44
ubotuHrdwrBoB: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:44
naliothMyrtti: doesnt linpopup require samba? isnt there a network commo thing that doesnt require samba?08:44
HrdwrBoBargh, I can't remember it08:44
linnerhey Myrtti08:44
brownie17dapimp53: there is aguoide for that on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/userdocumentation08:44
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linnerthoreauputic:  can you recommend a good package to install for editing HTML and CSS?08:45
naliothdapimp53: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:45
Myrttinalioth: I have no idea what to use instead of linpopup08:45
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Myrttiif YOU do, please tell08:45
naliothMyrtti: ok. let me see and i'll let you know08:45
linnerI did a search for HTML in the pkg mgr but so many things come up I don't know what to choose08:45
thoreauputiclinner: if you want wysiwyg, nvu or mozilla composer is about it08:45
Red_Bulletxfce4 pkaet could'n fount08:45
linnerI currently use Macromedia Homesite and TopStyle on Windoze08:45
Red_BulletE: Couldn't find package xfce408:45
dapimp53so I need to get back in the Ubuntu partition then?08:46
Madpilotlinner: Bluefish or Screem for HTML - neither is Whizzy, though08:46
MyrttiI have a backupscript that sends me a message via samba to inform that the compression has succeeded from computer A to computer B and would love to switch it to smthn else08:46
linnerright on...08:46
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Red_Bulletplease help me08:46
Myrttilinner: if it's wysiwyg you're looking for, NVU08:46
linnerwhen you say whizzy... you mean there is no browser view of what you just coded?08:46
Vaske_Cargood night all08:46
robotgeeklinner: nvu is neat08:46
Red_Bullet!info BitchX08:46
ubotubitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB08:46
GNULinuxerhow do i change the default background color in gnome ? [the color that shows up when gnome is starting] 08:46
HrdwrBoBno, bitchx is terrible08:47
Madpilotlinner: Screem has a rough internal preview, not sure about bluefish08:47
linnerNVU... cool... so what's so cool about it?08:47
HrdwrBoBGNULinuxer: irssi08:47
linnerMad:  thanks!!  Ok....08:47
Madpilotlinner: but neither are drag-and-drop editors, they're both for HTML coding08:47
GNULinuxerHrdwrBoB: what ?08:47
Red_Bullettell me whick CONSOLE chat program is the best08:47
HrdwrBoBGNULinuxer: system->administration-> login screen setup08:47
MyrttiRed_Bullet: irssi08:47
robotgeekRed_Bullet: irssi08:47
linnerMad:  That's what I want.  I don't know how to use a drag and drop.  I'm a hand coder... :)08:47
HrdwrBoBGNULinuxer: irssi is a better IRC client than bitchx08:47
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linnerSo that works out well.08:47
linnerI like the have control over my pages.08:47
Red_Bullethow can i download to my ubuntu08:47
robotgeeklinner: i thought it was pretty easy to use. no html/css experience, but worked out fine for me08:48
naliothMyrtti: echat or akeni are small network chat appliances08:48
Myrttisudo apt-get install irssi-text08:48
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Madpilotlinner: if you're a hand coder, you'll like bluefish & screem. I prefer Screem, but just slightly - they're both good08:48
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GNULinuxerHrdwrBoB: thanks!08:48
linnerMad:  very nice... thanks Robot...08:48
linnerYou guys are super, super helpful!08:48
HrdwrBoBGNULinuxer: glad to help :)08:48
Red_Bulletand how can i start irsii08:48
Red_Bullet?08:48
MyrttiIll try that08:48
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linnerThat means so much to a newbie such as me :)08:48
naliothRed_Bullet: open a terminal and type irssi08:49
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scanwinderhow do i mount a FAT partition so that a normal user can access it?08:49
Myrttioh my08:49
robotgeekscanwinder: use pmount08:49
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Myrttiscanwinder: or add it to your fstab08:50
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Madpilotlinner: if you start lines with people's full nick, it'll highlight it for us - much easier than if you just use part of a nick - thanks!08:50
linnerweird... I'm trying to install it via synaptic and I'm getting this error:  screem:08:50
linner Depends: dbus-1 but it is not going to be installed08:50
linner Depends: dbus-glib-1 but it is not going to be installed08:50
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robotgeeklinner: don't paste in here!08:51
scanwinderok, how do i unmount a device when it says its busy...............im not even using it and it says its busy08:51
linnerMadpilot:  understood08:51
robotgeek!pastebin08:51
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:51
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Red_Bulletcan i chat in many then 10 tabs alt+1 alt +2 ... alt+008:51
linnerRobotbot:  oh?  where should I post it?08:51
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Red_Bulletwith irssi08:51
Madpilotlinner: you in Hoary or Breezy?08:51
linneroh okay08:51
linneri'm sorry08:51
linnerBreezy08:51
robotgeeklinner: tab for nick completion08:51
robotgeekRed_Bullet: yeah08:51
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MyrttiRed_Bullet: alt+q, alt+w etc08:51
otepanyone here who have tried xampp?08:51
brownie17naliorth: are you familiar with wine/08:51
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MyrttiRed_Bullet: you can use /bind to add more08:51
robotgeekotep: i think i've used it on windows08:52
linnerRobotgeek:  I'm hitting the tab button but nothing happens08:52
scanwinderhow can i force something thats busy 2 unmount?08:52
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Madpilotlinner: OK... it installed fine in hoary for me08:52
Myrttilinner: type Myrt and hit tab08:52
brownie17scanwinder -f08:52
linnerMyrtti, oh I see08:52
thoreauputicscanwinder: umount -l08:52
linnerMadpilot, right on08:52
robotgeeklinner: typing robot and then tab completion works08:52
linnerrobotgeek, yeah now it's working08:52
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robotgeeklinner: :)08:52
linneri thought i did that before08:52
brownie17linner: reboot*08:52
linnerso sorry!08:52
linnerbrownie17, are you serious?08:52
brownie17linner :) just being an arsehole08:53
robotgeeklinner: never reboot!!08:53
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robotgeeknalioth: done reading?08:53
linnerrobotgeek, That's what I'd heard that it wasn't a matter of rebooting as it is with Windows08:53
brownie17robotgeek: sorry, my mistake08:53
brownie17hahah08:53
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MyrttiI forgot what I was doing08:53
onkarshindeCan I expect a custom Ubuntu CD for HP laptops when breezy is released? Will it contain latest driver (2.9.10) for smartlink modems?08:53
robotgeekbrownie17: gotta snap out of it!08:53
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Madpilotlinner: the only system thing you really need to reb**t for is kernel changes08:53
linnerMadpilot, and since I don't know what a kernel change is then I shouldn't have to worry!08:54
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scanwinderim not having much luck with pmount..............i want to mount /dev/sdb1 at /media/sdb1 so a normal user can access it08:54
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linnerLinux is so dam*ed smart!08:54
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brownie17nalioth: are you familiar with wine?08:54
humei'm trying to use kpilot in ubuntu hedgehog, but kpilot says it cannot fins kpilotdaemon (I'm trying it in xfce4 and kde). is there a packege that contains this daemon that I coulnd have missed?08:55
Myrttilinner: you might guess what my amount of frustration is when forced to install windows98 on a slow computer08:55
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omp342:P08:55
linnerMyrtti, Oh yes...08:55
brownie17omp342: heheh08:55
Myrttilinner: "you need to restart your computer to apply these changes..."08:55
Red_Bulletoo no i can't download xfce408:55
MyrttiGOARARAH08:55
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linnerMyrtti, why are you "forced" to install windows 98?08:55
pittiscanwinder: pmount /dev/sdb1 does exactly that08:55
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onkarshindeCan I expect a custom Ubuntu CD for HP laptops when breezy is released? Will it contain latest driver (2.9.10) for smartlink modems?08:55
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robotgeekRed_Bullet: do u have repositories enabled08:56
Red_Bulletsudo apt-get install xfce4 package not found08:56
brownie17onkarshinde: wouldn't bet my bottom dollar on it08:56
robotgeek!repos08:56
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:56
thoreauputic!tell Red_Bullet about repos08:56
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, possibly, talk to HP about that08:56
A-L-P-H-Aonkarshinde, why not just add it in?  I'm sure there's a howto.08:56
omp342i hated xfce when i tried it08:56
Myrttilinner: because the computer isn't mine and the people using it aren't ready to switch to the bright side08:56
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Red_Bulleti don't know what is repos08:56
linnerMyrtti, ahhh.... same ole same ole08:56
Myrttilinner: HER?08:56
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robotgeeklinner: a female linux user. welcome :)08:56
Myrttiyou TOO?08:56
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linnerwhy thank you!08:56
linnerMyrtti, you knew that!08:56
linnermyr08:57
naliothbrownie17: wine doesnt run on PPC, so no, sorry08:57
brownie17linner: a woman computer geek!!! argh! mind overloading!08:57
Myrttinope?08:57
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brownie17nalioth: sorry, ppc?08:57
linneroops Myrtti:  I told you last night :)08:57
Myrttibrownie17: newsflash <--08:57
Myrttiyou did?08:57
linnerbrownie17, you're too much!08:57
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brownie17myrtti: heck yeah08:57
Red_Bulletplease tell mi how to download xfce408:57
linnerMyrtti, yeah totally...08:57
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Myrtti/me hugs linner08:57
naliothbrownie17: i run apple hardware08:57
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Myrttiwelcome to the sorority08:57
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: we already did08:57
CaiN_SAomw08:57
brownie17linner: hahha, sorry, didn't mean to offend you08:57
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robotgeekbrownie17: so do i08:57
CaiN_SAnurds going nuts over a chick08:57
naliothRed_Bullet: use synaptic, and click the search button08:57
CaiN_SAhow lame08:57
brownie17nalioth: oh ok, stupid mre08:57
Red_Bulletbut i don't know what is repos08:57
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: read ubotu's /msg08:57
linnerbrownie17, oh contrare... you're not offending me at all!!! :)08:57
nalioth!tell Red_Bullet about synaptic08:57
thoreauputic!tell Red_Bullet about repos08:58
linnerCaiN_SA, too much!08:58
factotumwell, if you cant run ubuntu on your apple, next best thing would be debian i guess08:58
naliothbrownie17: there is stupid and there is ignorant. ignorance is a temporary condition08:58
Red_Bulletoo 10x08:58
marius_I'm looking for a nice graphical ftp client any tips ?08:58
robotgeeki think ubuntu runs better than debian :)08:58
onkarshindebrownie17: Burgundavia: A-L-P-H-A: I have downloaded a custom CD from Ubuntu site. That's why I was expecting a new one to be released with Breezy.08:58
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: the msg from ubotu *tells* you where to look08:58
robotgeekmarius_: gftp08:58
linnerMyrtti, have you been a geek most your life too?08:58
Myrttimarius_: gftp08:58
factotumnot on an apple evidently08:58
Madpilotmarius_: there's gFTP, but I'm not sure it's "nice"...08:58
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, Breezy is not yet released, but it is possibly08:58
Myrttiif running gnome08:58
marius_hmm running kde (kubuntu)08:59
robotgeekfactotum: maybe not the new ones, the old ones run nice08:59
brownie17Cain_SA: haha going nuts, hahha , i think i must be the only true excpetion to the people who are good with computers are geeks and have an aversion to women. hahha08:59
factotumah08:59
Myrttilinner: prolly yeh, though I got my first computer when I was 1808:59
linnerbrownie17, You crack me up!08:59
Myrttithat's about...08:59
onkarshindeBurgundavia: Can any Ubuntu developer answer this question?08:59
CaiN_SAlol08:59
brownie17linner: :)08:59
CaiN_SAim a programmer08:59
robotgeekfactotum: i use a old powerbook, without the need to OS X it08:59
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CaiN_SAand i have a normal gf08:59
linnerMyrtti, I'm 33... and I've loved 'em since my first Commodore 64!08:59
Myrtti(I'm bad in arithmethics)08:59
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robotgeeklinner: my first one was a C64 too!09:00
Myrtti8 years ago09:00
brownie17Cain_SA: haha (CYBER-)Girlfriend! :)09:00
factotumvery nice09:00
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, the HP stuff should be merged into general breezy09:00
CaiN_SAbrownie17, nope09:00
linnerrobotgeek: cool beans man!09:00
brownie17Cain_SA: it was only a joke. i beleive you09:00
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CaiN_SAyou better09:00
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robotgeekthoreauputic: thanks :)09:00
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Invader_ZimI started on an amiga 50009:00
linnerthoreauputic, welcome to nostaglia :)09:00
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Myrttioh oh linner :-> you know what I found today :-D http://www2.xfreehosting.com/teen/dapaura/nerd SORRY guys ;-)09:01
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factotumi had a TI something or other, anyways now that thats out of the way09:01
thoreauputiclinner: ah but nostalgia just isn't the same any more...09:01
MadpilotCommodore 64 had some of the coolest games going, bar none!09:01
linnerlet me go check it out09:01
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Myrtti*drools* :-P ~~~~~09:01
linnerthoreauputic, well you got me there09:01
Juhaz98 isn't too bad on low resources, I've been forced to install W2k (with full office to boot) to P233 w/32M RAM... worst of all, they were public machines at library... might've been some poor souls first contact with computers, who promptly decided to move to something less painful, like tester for torture equipment09:01
Myrttihahaha09:01
linnerMyrtti, let me go check it out09:01
linnerone minute09:01
Myrttiget your soap ready09:01
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Invader_ZimOnly 32megs ouch09:02
Invader_ZimI had quadras with more memory then that.09:02
A-L-P-H-AMyrtti, I'm blind.09:02
A-L-P-H-AMyrtti, I'm BLIND.09:02
MyrttiA-L-P-H-A: LOL. I did warn you09:02
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vuAnybody using firestarter as a GUI to iptables management?09:02
linnerMyrtti, that is way too funny!09:02
Myrttididn't I :-D09:02
linnerand not one of them is good lookin' at all!09:02
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linner:)09:03
Myrttiwell, they're relatively good looking09:03
Invader_ZimSo how are you seeing the text output then?09:03
onkarshindeI am just too eager for the release of Ubuntu 5.10. This will be third consecutive release of same distro I have used.09:03
Myrttitho lack some body hair09:03
A-L-P-H-AMyrtti, you MUST include a disclaimer... fully explaining the content of such medical hazard causing images.09:03
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linnerMyrtti, eh'.... I suppose :)09:03
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linnerthoreauputic, remember the program the "Oregon Trail"?09:03
naliothlovely09:03
fluvvellI'm still trying to figure out this motherboard, does ACPI control reboot functions now?09:03
linnerI just found it on for my Palm T3... heheheheh09:04
naliothmore bots09:04
linnertalk about nostalgia!!!09:04
thoreauputiclinner: I have been out of touch with popular culture for too long ;)09:04
fluvvellI've got a machine that will power down but not reboot, can anyone help?09:04
Madpilotlinner: "Seven Cities of Gold" - coolest game ever (C64...)09:04
linnerthoreauputic, is that right? :)09:04
Red_Bulletbut how can i start repos in kde in kynaptic09:04
ChrustinhoI search a WLAN USB Stick which works out of the box without special tools in Ubuntu. Can anyone give me a tipp?09:04
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linnerMadpilot, oh god... I remember that one!!!!09:04
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fluvvellMadpilot: I used to LOVE that game!09:04
Red_Bulleti couldn't found Synaptic in kde09:04
Red_Bullet:((09:04
fluvvellMadpilot: (Atari!)09:05
aftertafomp342:  hehe i was working!!!09:05
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benplautnalioth, the aoQuoJ and iaioeUl?09:05
naliothbenplaut: yep09:05
aftertafkde -vs- gnome, its a matter of preference...09:05
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aftertafi prefer kde cos since gnome 2.4 ive had nuthin but problems....09:05
linnerfluvvell, Table top Ms. PacMan!  Not the kind in bars, but the little itty bitty one09:06
Red_Bulletbut how can i start repos in kde09:06
fluvvelllinner: he he he09:06
aftertafhi Myrtti hi linner :)09:06
MadpilotRed_Bullet: #kubuntu?09:06
linnerhey aftertaf!09:06
linnerfluvvell, do you remember it?09:06
onkarshindeaftertaf: Have you tried GNOME recently?09:06
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fluvvelllinner: I had an atari 800Xl, with pacman and ms pacman,09:06
Myrtti/me reminds people about #ubuntu-offtopic09:06
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aftertafnope, might try sometime tho09:06
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fluvvellon cartridge I think!09:06
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linnerfluvvell, my mom thought it would blow up the tv... heheheheh I never got to have an atari09:07
linner:(09:07
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humeanyone successfully running kpilot on ubuntu?09:07
dazvidwhile installing mplayer... do I need to use sudo?09:07
aftertafonkarshinde:  except once, and each time i clicked a folder it opened a new window, NT4 style :/09:07
fluvvelllinner: Kind of sad I gave mine away now09:07
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linnerI know!  eBay is listing them for bucoo bucks09:07
onkarshindeaftertaf: Hey, you can set a preference to open it in same folder. Wait for Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10) which contains GNOME 2.12 and you won't be disappointed.09:08
humedazvid, you need sudo to install....09:08
aftertafhehe09:08
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linnergood lord I feel old now09:08
linner:)09:08
fluffybunny_i am having real issues viewing PS with Gnome ghostview - so much so, that I have to hold down the power button, because everything is hung. can anyone recommend something else?09:08
fluvvelllinner: cant we get like emulators now?09:08
linneryeah I think so09:09
linnerI honestly haven't tried09:09
ChrustinhoI search a WLAN USB Stick which works out of the box without special tools in Ubuntu. Can anyone give me a tipp?09:09
robotgeekfluffybunny_: get evince09:09
linnerI know I did on my windows box... found tempest09:09
fluvvellIve heard about them, but .... well too much to do09:09
linnerdidn't work so hot though09:09
onkarshindefluffybunny_: Can't you view files with gpdf?09:09
onkarshindeI mean .ps files09:09
linnerneed that spinning joystick09:09
robotgeekChrustinho: netgear might work ,not sure09:09
fluvvellmight think about introducing my kids to them one day09:09
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fluvvellI have one of those!!!09:09
linneryou do????09:09
linnerwhere on earth did you get it?  eBay?09:09
fluvvellthe stick plasticy one?09:09
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: i can open the files, but then everything kinda hangs... :(09:10
linnerI think so... kinda hard for this old dog to remember if it was plastic or not09:10
linnerI remember it was silver or black (depending how old the terminal is) and that it was notced09:10
onkarshindefluffybunny_: I think you tried in Ghostview. Try gpdf or xpdf09:10
omp342aftertaf: :O09:10
fluvvellthe insides were kind of crappy (! silver?)09:10
linnerfluvvell, no it's not a stick necessarily... it was a knob09:10
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: ok... will give it a try, thanks09:10
fluvvellOh the knob one, don't have one of those09:11
linnerfluvvell, yeah i'd like to get my hands on a silver one09:11
linneryeah... that's what i meant... sorry for the confusion09:11
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fluvvellsteel shaft type, red ball on top?09:11
A-L-P-H-Ared ball? hmm... maybe I need a red bull.09:11
linnerfluvvell, now i'm talking about the arcade kind, i think you're talking about a personal one right?09:11
A-L-P-H-Amaybe not at 3:12am.09:11
fluvvellA-L-P-H-A: ha ha09:12
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linnerfluvvell, but that one you just referred to is for pacman and such09:12
Myrttidamn I keep forgetting what I was doing09:12
fluvvelllinner: well, we used to have an arcade quality one that we sold in the shop, about $80 if I remember09:12
A-L-P-H-Apacman was played on a joystick... not a the large ball things.09:12
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A-L-P-H-Adamn I need to follow this better.09:12
linnerreally?  very cool!09:12
AzMooI fixed my speed issue. For some reason there were two X sessions running.09:12
fluvvelllinner: not the smooth progressive joysticks of today, but the on off type09:13
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linnerA-L-P-H-A, Fluvvell is right... it did have a red ball on top09:13
missmarplegood morning09:13
linnerfluvvell, yeah exactly09:13
A-L-P-H-Alinner? in the arcade?09:13
linnerhey missmarple09:13
linnerA-L-P-H-A, totally!09:13
fluvvellpeople would slam them from side to side at incredible rates of knots09:13
missmarplei have a short question09:13
linneryep09:13
linneri still do when i can get my hands on a Ms. Pac-Man machine - the fast one, not the pokey slow one09:14
missmarplehow can i find out whether my webcam module (cpia) is based on v4l or v4l2 ?09:14
linneryou guys are so fun!09:14
Madpilotmissmarple: asked google yet?09:14
A-L-P-H-Ahmm... well... pacman came out in 1980... (wikipedia)... and I was at most 0.5 to 1.5 years old.09:14
linneroh lord!09:14
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linnerI was 8.09:14
missmarpleMadpilot: yes of course, bit i didnt find an appropriate answer09:15
A-L-P-H-Awiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man states it was with a joystick.09:15
linnervu:  too funny!09:15
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: gpdf is worse (really slow)09:15
A-L-P-H-Anot that wiki is the authority on the subject, but a good start.09:15
linnerA-L-P-H-A, let me go check it out09:15
missmarplemissmarple: maybe i also didnt ask for appropriate key words -;)09:15
Invader_Zimlol pacman09:15
onkarshindefluffybunny_: And what about xpdf?09:15
linnerA-L-P-H-A, well yeah, it was a joystick09:15
linnerright... that's what fluvvell was describing09:15
linnerI was talking about the knobby doo-hickey for tempest09:16
A-L-P-H-Alinner, as opposed to the ball thing you guys were talking about... the ball thing was for tanks.09:16
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A-L-P-H-Awas tanks = tempest?09:16
Invader_Zimtrackball09:16
linnerA-L-P-H-A, I don't think so .  Not in the US anyway.09:16
linnerInvader_Zim, wasn't it on a knob?09:16
fluvvellalpha, no it was a joystick like a gear lever with an 8ball on top, but red09:16
Invader_ZimTrackball games are kinda neat I once played with this ancient centiped game.09:16
linnerok... now I'm going to go find out09:16
linnerwait one09:16
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fluvvellnot a trackball Invader, but yeah we had those too09:17
A-L-P-H-Afluvvell, yeah. a joystick with a ball on top (for a handle only).09:17
vuMadpilot, You da man ;-)09:17
thoreauputicMadpilot: tactfully put ;-)09:17
linnerok.. here you go...09:17
linnerhttp://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/M/cMs._Pac-Man.gif09:17
fluvvellyeah yeah yeah, sure09:17
linnerthere's a picture of the darned thing09:17
A-L-P-H-AI thought you meant like a trackball.09:18
linnerA-L-P-H-A, ok and here's a pic for tempest09:18
linnerhttp://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=1006509:18
naliothMadpilot: obviously tact is wasted here09:19
fluvvellok, now for some ubuntu problems!09:19
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A-L-P-H-Alinner, at least give us the original pac-man. http://www.arcadeshop.com/gamepic/new-namco-pac-man-ur-f.jpg09:19
A-L-P-H-A:)09:19
missmarpleanybody has an idea to my question?09:19
linnerthoreauputic, you absolutely crack me up09:19
A-L-P-H-Alinner, I don't remember that game... tempest... I remember that style (raster graphics)09:19
linnerA-L-P-H-A, dude, i just did a quick google for a pic09:19
fluvvelldo you other guys know how to get it to reboot and not just sit there?09:19
A-L-P-H-Alinner, I was kidding around. :)09:20
fluvvellwithout pressing the hard reset button09:20
linnerA-L-P-H-A, yes... definitely raster09:20
linnerA-L-P-H-A,  *big grin*09:20
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linnerhard to tell here sometimes :)09:20
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dazvidcan i install w32 codecs through synaptic or apt-get ?09:21
thoreauputic!codecs09:21
A-L-P-H-Ahmm... if i have $1600, I might buy the pac-man game.09:21
ubotucodecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:21
dazvidor manually download and install?09:21
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: sorry, i had to reboot - gpdf had me completely hung :)09:21
thoreauputicdazvid: ^^^09:21
dazvidthanks thoreauputic09:21
linnerthis is what I had a-l-p-h-a:  http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Coleco/MsPacMan.htm09:21
A-L-P-H-Alinner, the home version? :) heh09:22
naliothdazvid: all 3 options are fine09:22
linnertotally!!!09:22
linnerdude it's going for upwards of $200 USD on eBay09:22
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: xpdf doesn't open it at all09:22
robotgeeknalioth: damn libtheora bug :)09:22
linnerwe paid like 25 I think back in the day09:22
onkarshindefluffybunny_: Try xpdf then. If you still get problem there is high probability that the file is corrupted.09:22
naliothas entertaining as the old game chat is, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place09:22
A-L-P-H-Aa neighbour had one of those games, where it created raster graphics at home... has like cartridges, and screen templates.09:22
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dazvidthoreauputic, it says w32codecs.. which I searched for and pulled nothing up.. whats their actual filename?09:22
thoreauputiclinner: are you a known extravert ? /me ducks09:22
A-L-P-H-AI don't remember what they were called.09:23
missmarple:-(09:23
linnerthoreauputic, um... yeah???!!!??? :)09:23
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thoreauputicdazvid: it's in hoary-extras09:23
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thoreauputiclinner: that's close to the punctuation record ;-)09:23
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linnerhuh?09:24
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cafuegoa simple interrobang would have sufficed.09:24
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thoreauputicdazvid: if you read to the botom of the pae you will see the needed repository09:25
Red_Bullethey help me again please09:25
Red_Bullet:)09:25
Red_Bulletabout09:25
Red_Bulletirssi09:25
Red_Bulletmeta-up              upper_window09:25
Red_Bullet10:24 meta-down            lower_window09:25
thoreauputic*bottom09:25
Red_Bulletwhat that mean09:25
Red_Bulletmeta09:25
Red_Bullet??09:25
Red_Bulletwhat's this meta-down09:26
HrdwrBoBRed_Bullet: what are you doing09:26
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Red_Bulletbind09:26
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: *cough*09:26
benplautoops09:26
cafuegoRed_Bullet: Please use the 'return' key a lot less.09:26
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Red_Bulleti write /bind09:26
robotgeekRed_Bullet: i think u might need to read irssi faq!09:26
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: meta is usually "alt"09:26
dazvidthoreauputic, ah ok, was just looking for the link then09:26
Red_Bulletno it isn't alt09:27
Red_Bulleti pres alt+ up09:27
robotgeekRed_Bullet: try esc then09:27
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Red_Bulletbut i can't see the upperrest side of the windows09:27
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: as cafuego says, you need to read the FAQ09:28
A-L-P-H-Ahmm.... I found a new favourite word... hehe... callipygian09:28
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: if you want to scroll up, use page-up09:28
A-L-P-H-ARed_Bullet, or move the window. :)09:29
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dazvidthoreauputic, are there any other handy repos' that I should know about?09:29
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thoreauputicdazvid: well, I recommend staying with the official ones really - and I suggest commenting out hoary-backports unless you are actually installing something09:31
dazvidrighto09:31
thoreauputicas for hoary-extras actually09:31
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thoreauputicdazvid: if you upgrade, odd things have been known to happen with the extra repos09:32
Red_Bulletaa can i copy the link to web site from chat dialog09:32
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Myrttinalioth: neither akeni or echat are what I was looking for09:34
Red_Bullethow can i activate tv-out to my g-force 409:34
naliothMyrtti: yes, but i've found that linpopup is a little heavy for me (with its samba dependency)09:34
Red_Bulletcan anybody help me for tv-out09:34
Myrttibut I need a way to make the script talk09:35
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: stop being annoying: please wait09:35
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Red_Bulletsorry09:36
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aimazi used to use ubuntu behind a proxy, now it is gone, but the update manager still tries to connect using the proxy, where can i unset the setting it is using?09:36
Myrttinalioth: echo "Compression successful, ${Y}.${M}.${D}"|smbclient -M nanook09:36
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naliothMyrtti: ya missed me by a mile with that09:37
MyrttiI've got a script that does some compression on the remote computer09:37
Myrttiafter the compression is done, it informs me about it with smbclient -M09:38
esc_apewhat is the commandline equivalent of windows "ipconfig"09:38
Myrttiifconfig09:38
Juhazifconfig09:38
naliothMyrtti: ah. so linpopup is just what Dr. Myrtti ordered09:38
yonkeltronesc_ape: ifconfig09:38
esc_apethanks09:38
linnerhey guys ... i'm curious is thoreauputic a moderator for the channel?09:38
linnerhe's really good if he is09:38
Myrttibut I'd like some other way of doing it, though09:38
naliothlinner: he's moderate, thats true09:39
linnernalioth, oh okay...09:39
Myrtti"channel operator"09:39
linnermypapit, oh okay...09:39
linneroops sorry09:39
linnerMyrtti, i see09:39
linnerMyrtti, same thing?09:39
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Myrttimmmm, soup09:40
Myrttiapprox, yes09:40
A-L-P-H-AAnyone know if I can mount a SATA raid 0 array, that's formated NTFS?  The raid controller is a VIA onboard SATA chipset.09:42
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TrebzHello09:45
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thoreauputic5 minutes of silence? wtf?09:51
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nalioththoreauputic: you spoiled it!09:51
thoreauputicnalioth: hahah09:51
vu;-)09:51
CaiN_SAlol09:52
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CaiN_SAi was waiting for the cdrw09:53
CaiN_SAto finish burning09:53
CaiN_SA@ 4x09:53
CaiN_SAsigh09:53
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vuc:09:54
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benplautyou know... in a linux #channel, you can't exactly use 'fsck' as an excuse for $%@#, since fsck actually means something :P09:54
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robotgeekbenplaut: maybe they have it as fsck as things have f**d up if u have to use the command ?09:55
benplaut:P09:56
benplautOK, don't break the silence... see who stumbles in and asks a stupid question :P09:56
thoreauputicbenplaut: with caps lock on, of course ;)09:56
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AzMooI'm using my scroll wheel too much. My finger's getting a callus.09:57
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benplautheheh09:57
benplautbe careful, cafuego :P09:57
Juhazspeaking on fsck'd fsck, ubuntu's 1.35 can't handle FC4's filesystems09:57
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Red_Bullethow can i download cedega for ubuntu09:58
cafuegoJuhaz: FC4 is not a filesystem type.09:58
cafuegoRed_Bullet: You pay them money and they allow you to fetch a .deb09:58
Juhazcafuego, I didn't claim it was09:59
Juhazcafuego, it does however use some ext3 features that aren't supported by 1.3509:59
cafuegoJuhaz: "FC4's filesystems" - seems either wrong or a pointless statement09:59
cafuegoSuch as what? user_xattr?09:59
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Juhaznot a clue09:59
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onkarshindeHas anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs emulator? I get a kernel panic when installation starts.10:01
cafuegoOr has FC4 just broken standard (again)10:01
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Juhazhighly unlikely, unless you count using e2fsprogs 1.37 as breaking the standard10:04
linnerhey ya'll what's the channel where i can paste error messages?10:06
linneri don't want to do  it again in here10:06
Juhaz#flood, or use a web pastebin10:06
dazvidlinner, Theres a website called pastebin.. the link is in the message of the day10:06
linnerit is?10:06
dazvidhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.org I thinks...10:06
linnerok... let me go see if I can find it10:06
Madpilot!paste10:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:06
Madpilotlinner: ^^^10:06
dazvidah .nl10:06
dazvidmy bad10:06
linnerthank you!!!!10:06
linnerMadpilot, thanks ;)10:07
Madpilotlinner: no problem10:07
Madpilotneed sleep. good night, all10:07
linnerMadpilot, goodnight dear10:08
linner:)10:08
cafuegoJuhaz: Redhat has a habit of doing stupoid stuff, they may well have patched their kernel or fs tools with nonstandard patches.10:08
linnerok here's the skinny:  trying to install screem through synaptic10:08
linnerin #flood is what i'm getting10:08
dazvidhow do i kill specific processes?10:08
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onkarshindeHas anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs emulator? I get a kernel panic when installation starts.10:09
cafuegodazvid: will 'kill'.10:09
cafuegodazvid: or hit 'k' in top.10:09
dazvidYes i know the command kill.. but not sure how to specify the actual program10:09
dazvidit says to use the process ID .. but wheres that?10:10
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cafuegodazvid: kill <process id>10:10
aftertafdazvid:  type ps -A10:10
cafuegodazvid: You get the process id via 'ps'10:10
aftertafto find the id10:10
dazvidrighto10:10
cafuegodazvid: the first column.10:10
dazvidthanks thanks10:10
cafuegoeh, second10:10
dazvidah excellent10:10
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linner:)10:13
dazvidlol10:13
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linner*grin*10:13
linner#flood10:13
linneroops10:13
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sleonweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaathechaaaaaampionnnnnnnnsss my friiiiiiiieeeeeeennnddd10:13
Somada141is there a list of all the packages that come with the Ubuntu CD?10:14
sleonweeeee areeee on top offff foresightlinuxxxxxxxxxxx aallll the daaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,, wweeee aree the beeestt t  gnooooommmeee packaggeeeeers oooooffff wooooooooooooooooooooooooooorld10:14
aftertafhehe10:14
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cafuegosleon: See you later.10:15
Somada141anyone?10:16
sn0nSomada141, you can DL the CD and ls it10:16
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Somada141i am on WinXp on the university10:16
A-L-P-H-Awoohoo... new kernel finally allows my wireless mouse to work properly...10:16
Somada141i have ubuntu back at home but no connection10:17
A-L-P-H-ASomada141, , I avoid my school computers at all cost... I bring my laptop, and wireless card. :)10:17
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Somada141well i don't have one10:18
ompaulthoreauputic, msg?10:18
thoreauputicsure :)10:18
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Weedyanyone around10:19
Somada141is there some way i could dnl all packages of a section burn them on a cd and do my work?10:19
ompaulWeedy, about 33310:20
ompaul!tell Weedy about ask10:20
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onkarshindeSomada141: What do you mean by all packages of a section?10:20
A-L-P-H-ASomada141,  there's a DVD image...10:21
Somada141i mean i want the ogg vorbis codecs but there a million dependacies10:21
Somada141where can i find it?10:21
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Somada141i have to go back and forth and check which other packages i need10:21
Chastaghir@Somada141, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/10:21
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ompaulSomada141, you should just grab the .debs10:22
BeFalouwhy totem is so slooow? it can't play anything, avi looks weird and DVDs play at 1 fps...10:22
Somada141yap but each deb depends on ten others10:22
ompaulSomada141, so you download the 10 debs and burn them off10:22
ompaul:)10:22
ompaulSomada141, let me run a command line or two and put them in pastebin for you10:23
Somada141ok10:23
Somada141ALPHA : how can i save the folder you told me?10:23
vuSo whats the way to  go: ubuntu or kubuntu?10:24
A-L-P-H-ASomada141, which folder?  the DVD?  There's an DVD image... but I don't know of the ogg vorbis codecs are on it... probably are.10:24
Somada141Chastaghir : i saw the URL but how can i save it on my HDD?10:24
Somada141yeah but where can i get that image?10:24
ompaulvu ask that question in kubuntu that they will say kubuntu here their spies will say kubuntu, but I will tell you ubuntu :)10:24
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ompaulSomada141, cdimages.ubuntu.com10:25
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dazvidare there any true benefits other than just personal preference from using kubuntu or ubuntu?10:25
vuompaul, You make a lot of sense. I hate KDE so I guess ubuntu is the way.10:25
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ngmlinuxhow the (#*)#$* do you install sun java in ubuntu10:26
ngmlinux????10:26
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ngmlinuxit's 4:30 am and i'm still working on something this stupid10:26
Ngngmlinux: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for Java, there's a page that describes what to do10:26
A-L-P-H-ASomada141,  I'll have to find that iso image... why not just google it?10:26
ngmlinuxNg, already read it10:26
Anythinghnn there isnt a video driver for intel 845 g/l10:26
Anythingfor linux10:26
Ngngmlinux: which bit are you having trouble with?10:26
Anythingthis sucks...10:26
Somada141search for what ? "dvd image ubuntu" or sth?10:26
ngmlinuxE: Couldn't find package java-package10:27
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Ngngmlinux: you need to enable the multiverse repository to get java-package10:27
ngmlinuxplease walk me through that, Ng10:27
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ngmlinuxNg, in synaptic or .list?10:28
dazvideither ^10:28
thesaltydogBefore upgrading to breezy I have saved my disk timings from running10:28
thesaltydogsudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda10:28
skabblehow do i play a cd from the terminal window?10:28
Ngngmlinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto :)10:28
thesaltydogThis was the timing on Hoary:10:28
thesaltydog/dev/hda:10:28
thesaltydogTiming cached reads: 2980 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1488.74 MB/sec10:28
thesaltydogTiming buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.03 seconds = 57.49 MB/sec10:28
ngmlinuxNg, I know how to add repositories10:28
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thesaltydogand this is the current timing in Breezy:10:28
ngmlinuxNg, I need specifics10:28
Ngngmlinux: that page tells you how to add multiverse10:28
thesaltydog/dev/hda:10:28
thesaltydogTiming cached reads: 2832 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1415.51 MB/sec10:28
thesaltydogTiming buffered disk reads: 40 MB in 3.01 seconds = 13.29 MB/sec10:28
thesaltydog...terribly slooooow.10:29
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=== keikoz hello all :)
skabblehi keikoz10:29
skabblecan someone tell me how to play a cd from the command line?10:30
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ngmlinuxNg, now we're getting somewhere10:31
naliothblasted cable company10:31
Somada141the ubuntu site mentions the DVD of packages but doesn't give a link or anything10:31
naliothSomada141: cdimage.ubuntu.com10:32
Somada141i went but i can't find it?10:32
ompaulSomada141, if you go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2009 you will have some info you may be interested in10:32
naliothSomada141: there are torrents at the download page for the dvd's10:32
Somada141thnx10:32
ompaulSomada141, http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent from this http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/10:33
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nalioththoreauputic: are you alive?10:33
ompaulthoreauputic, is alive!10:34
thoreauputicyeah10:34
thoreauputic:)10:34
Somada141thanks a lot10:34
naliothmy cable co dropped me for a minim10:34
naliothsorry wastes of ties10:34
Somada141isn't there a way to get the dvd on direct download10:34
yonkeltronanyone ever realize that kelly clarkson's since u been gone could easily be sung to windows?10:34
naliothSomada141: cdimage.ubuntu.com10:35
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Somada141i tried it but it can't find it10:35
ompaulSomada141, dvds are only on torrent10:35
Somada141oh10:35
ompaulSomada141, I gave you the torrent link10:35
Somada141what if i dnl all the pool using ftp client?10:35
naliothSomada141: say what?10:36
Somada141yap i am trying ti get it but the firewalls don't like it10:36
vuHas anybody thought if the name ubuntu will have any impact on the usage of this distro in Africa?  Kubuntu has a more German spin to me. Are we starting to get into culturally influenced distros.10:36
ompaulSomada141, you know the answer to that yourself10:36
Somada141i do?10:36
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thoreauputicvu: kubuntu is also an African word10:36
naliothvu: i'm sure this distro will be widely used in africa, since the guide of it lives there10:36
ompaulSomada141, if you download stuff using ftp it will be on your machine ......10:37
vunalioth, guide????10:37
ompaul!guide10:37
ubotuompaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:37
ompaul!ubuntuguide10:37
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.10:37
naliothvu the guide. the mentor. (the money behind ubuntu)10:37
thoreauputicompaul: wrong one :)10:37
Somada141yap i'll dnl it and then burn it on a dvd10:37
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naliothompaul: please10:37
ompaulsorry10:38
vuthoreauputic, Kubuntu means?10:38
ngmlinuxhow can i check which version of java i have installed?10:38
ngmlinuxi want to verify that i have sun java now and not gnu10:38
thoreauputicvu: Mark Shuttleworth is SOuth African10:38
naliothngmlinux: in a term, java -version10:38
vunalioth, Who is that guy and where is he from?10:38
vuAha10:38
thoreauputicvu: something like "towards huanity" from memory10:38
ngmlinuxnalioth, i just installed sun java10:38
thoreauputic*humanity10:38
ngmlinuxnalioth and it still reports gnu java being installed10:38
vuBut he is of British origin doesn't really count.10:39
ngmlinuxnalioth: hey! you're back10:39
thoreauputicvu: huh??10:39
ompaul Ubuntu is an age-old African term for humaneness - for caring, sharing and being in harmony with all of creation. As an ideal, it promotes co-operation between individuals, cultures and nations.10:39
ngmlinuxnalioth: by the way i replaced 64 with i38610:39
naliothngmlinux: use synaptic and remove all gnu java stuff (search for java in "pkg names and contents")10:39
naliothngmlinux: you will find it much easier to develop on10:40
vuI guess the folks in Nigeria have never heard of the word. Don't mean to be insulting to the host Nigerians.10:40
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thoreauputicvu: what is your point? Did you read what the word means?10:41
ompaulvu and I don't use the word, but I use the software10:41
grahamozwhats the lastest version of Ubuntu10:41
grahamoz?10:41
ngmlinuxnalioth, that's like searching for a needle in a needlestack10:41
grahamozlatest10:41
ompaulvu and whats more I like the meaning10:41
vuOk cool....10:41
naliothngmlinux: not really. i did it yesterday10:41
ngmlinuxnalioth: remove gij10:41
ngmlinuxand gdb?10:41
naliothngmlinux: you are looking for things that are installed10:41
ompaulgrahamoz, the latest version is 5.04 the next will be 5.1010:41
ngmlinuxthere's a lot10:41
naliothngmlinux: not gdb10:41
ngmlinuxgij?10:41
naliothngmlinux: just the 'java only things', like gij10:42
ngmlinuxhow many java related files do i need to remove?10:42
ompaulgrahamoz, those numbers are year/month the names are hoary / breezy10:42
ngmlinuxnalioth what about java-common??10:42
naliothngmlinux: yup10:42
ngmlinuxi don't know what's gnu and what's sun10:42
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ngmlinuxremove java-common10:42
ngmlinuxok10:42
naliothngmlinux: it says jre-sun-blah10:43
naliothor something like that10:43
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A-L-P-H-Awhat's the mount command to mount a ipod? mount /dev/sda /media/ipod [what filesystem?] 10:43
`pauli want to add somthing in $PATH and i want it to be added evrytime i boot the system i edited .bash_profile it seems to be not working am i doing something wrong?10:43
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penticlexhow do I stop my xserver10:44
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Somada141Stupid Question : Can't i cd a folder whose name has space in it ? e.g "NTFS Packages"???10:44
grahamozso 5th of october ?10:44
dazvidSomada141: use \ and then a space10:44
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dazvidor just hit TAB to autocomplete10:45
thoreauputicSomada141: or tab complete it10:45
dazvid;)10:45
ngmlinuxnalioth this is way over my head to be honest10:45
`paulhelp.. pls10:45
Somada141oh10:45
ngmlinuxi'm not an expert at what's what from what java10:45
Somada141autocoplete?10:45
Somada141autocomplete?10:45
ngmlinuxi need gcj to work and i need sun java to work10:45
penticlexhow can I shut down GDM back to a console10:45
dazvidSomada141: just type first 3 letters or so (sometimes less) and hit TAB10:45
Somada141it completes the name of the folder on its own?10:46
ngmlinuxand i've got more files than i have any clue about nailoth10:46
naliothngmlinux: then stop right there and introduce a variable in your .bashrc to set your java preference10:46
dazvidYes.10:46
Somada141Cool10:46
`paulctrl-alt-F110:46
Somada141man i love Linux10:46
dazvidworks in here too ;)10:46
ngmlinuxnalioth, i don't know how to do that either10:46
dazvidyou can do it in windows too Somada141, but yes linux is cool  :P10:46
penticlexno I actualy want to stop my xserver not just go to a console10:46
Somada141:)10:46
ngmlinuxlinux is not cool, it's 4:30 am10:46
`paulkillall xserver i think10:46
ngmlinuxand i'm just trying to install java10:47
`paulor killall GDM10:47
`paulngm: mee too10:47
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`paulngm: but my problem is to set the $PATH evrytime i boot10:47
dazvidngmlinux: Just use synaptic. Go to the wiki that was linked before, read the isntructions carefully10:47
Somada141is there a huide or sth for all that?10:47
Somada141guide10:47
ngmlinuxdazvid, i'm using synaptic, i've read the wiki10:48
ngmlinuxdazvid, and i have no clue what i'm doing10:48
Somada141i read the Ubuntu Unofficial but it didn't give any CLI info10:48
dazvidwell I just installed it10:48
dazvidits about 30mb download10:48
ngmlinuxi installed it to10:48
ngmlinuxbut type java -version10:48
ngmlinuxi bet you're still running on gnu10:48
ngmlinuxso your sun java is useless10:48
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dazvidEr mine doesnt mention gnu anywhere10:49
ngmlinuxnalioth: someone told me how to do this before with one symbolic link chnage i think10:49
ngmlinuxit was like 1 or 2 command lines and i activated sun java10:49
ngmlinuxand deactivated gnu java10:50
ngmlinuxdazvid paste what it says10:50
A-L-P-H-Aheh. if I just unplug and plug in my ipod, breezy just detects it. love it. :)10:50
ngmlinuxnalioth: can you give me a command line or two to do something like that10:50
naliothngmlinux: sure thing10:50
pepsihow can i listen to wma files?10:50
ngmlinuxthanks, nalioth10:50
Sly:( , my first day back at college,10:51
Slysomone help10:51
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Somada141Stupid Question : In order to install packages without synaptic do i put them in /usr/local/bin ?10:51
A-L-P-H-ASomada141,  no... use apt-get.10:51
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naliothSomada141: anything YOU install goes in /usr/local/ yes, but please know what you are doing10:52
Somada141well i don't have a connection back home so ihave to do it manually10:52
nemesiohello everyone10:52
Somada141why10:52
Somada141?10:52
vuIs Knoppix in essence Debian?10:52
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nemesioerr does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??10:53
ngmlinuxnalioth, you still working on those commands?10:53
naliothSomada141: and the packages apt-get uses go in /var/cache/apt/archives/10:53
naliothngmlinux: patience10:53
ngmlinuxk10:53
nemesioerr does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??10:53
Bateau_hey! im having problems with starting Steam with Cedega. i get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1994 . can anyone help please?10:53
ompaulvu what http://www.knoppix.com say ?10:53
nemesioerr does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??10:54
keikoznemesio flooding will not bring you a faster answer ...10:54
nemesiois not flooding10:55
keikozquite10:55
nemesioim just asking10:55
vuompaul, I cannot access it from where I am for some reason. Can you?10:55
keikozuseless anyway10:55
naliothvu knoppix is debian based, as is ubuntu10:55
Slynalioth... you ever off here10:56
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onkarshindeSly: What help do you need?10:56
Slyi went to bed at 4/5am you was here, got up now, getting ready for college ,and you still here ! :)10:56
naliothSly: sure, when i sleep10:56
sn0nhere ware the video codecs again ?10:56
sn0nwhere are**10:57
vunalioth, I was just reading about Jonathan Riddell who maintains KDE for kubuntu but actually uses on his laptop Knoppix.10:57
Somada141are there any more ubuntu guides than the Unofficial one?10:57
onkarshindesn0n: Which codecs? What files are you trying to play?10:57
sn0nwmv, etc..10:57
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naliothSomada141: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation10:57
Sly-College:(, first days back suck :(10:57
Somada141thanks10:57
ngmlinuxnalioth, making any progress?10:57
onkarshinde!codecs10:58
ubotucodecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:58
sn0nthnx10:58
onkarshindesn0n: Read ubotu's reply10:58
ngmlinuxsorry for my impatience but it's freaking 5 am!!!10:58
naliothngmlinux: JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.3.1/;export JAVA_HOME10:58
sn0ngot it10:58
sn0nthnx10:58
ngmlinuxthanks! nalioth10:58
ngmlinuxlet me try that10:58
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ngmlinuxnalioth, that directory doesn't exist10:59
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naliothngmlinux: use what i posted as a guide11:00
ngmlinuxno i mean i don't have a j2sdkx.x.x anything11:00
Chameleon22can anyone recomend a nice bittorrent client?11:00
ngmlinuxthere's nothing in /usr/local11:00
ngmlinuxrelated to java11:00
bluesceada"bittorrent" :=)11:00
ngmlinuxand don't tell me i didn't install it11:00
bluesceadabtdownloadcurses.py11:00
Chameleon22bluesceada, deb doesnt wnt to install :(11:00
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ngmlinuxnalioth: what now?11:02
bluesceadaChameleon22: but you will anyway need the basic bittorrent11:02
Chameleon22?11:02
ngmlinuxi'm about to just chuck this thing out the window11:02
naliothngmlinux: in a terminal, type "source ~/.bashrc"11:02
ngmlinuxokay11:02
onkarshindeChameleon22: If you have Ubuntu 5.04 you already have one. But you can consider trying azureus.sf.net11:03
JaivazOdd problem.. I just started trying out XFCE and the Internet and Multimedia menus have double of everything.11:03
ngmlinuxnalioth: done11:03
ngmlinuxno errors11:03
Chameleon22onkarshinde, thanks11:03
naliothngmlinux: now type "java -version" and see11:03
ngmlinuxok11:03
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ngmlinuxjava -version11:03
ngmlinuxjava version "1.4.2"11:03
ngmlinuxgij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4ubuntu6)11:03
ngmlinuxCopyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.11:03
ngmlinuxThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO11:03
ngmlinuxwarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.11:03
naliothngmlinux: please havent we been here alreadY?11:04
ngmlinuxyes11:04
ngmlinuxthat's why i'm pissed11:04
ngmlinuxsame old crap no matter what i try11:04
Bateau_im having some problems with starting Steam in Cedega. and any other aplication actualy. i get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1994 . can anyone help please?11:04
ngmlinuxnalioth: are you out of ideas?11:05
ngmlinuxanybody know ubuntu inside and out?11:05
naliothngmlinux: here is what i have11:05
SeveasBateau_, set your language correctly11:05
Bateau_yes, i understand that... but i dont know where :/11:06
thoreauputicngmlinux: do not paste in here, please11:06
Seveasexport LANGUAGE=en_US11:06
Seveascesege steam.exe11:06
naliothSeveas: can you help ngmlinux with his java selection?11:06
Seveascedeag steam.exe*11:06
martiiHi11:06
Seveasnalioth, maybe11:06
martiiI have adaptec AAC-RAID controller11:06
martiidoes anyone know any tools to check raid status11:07
martiiwith this one?11:07
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Seveasngmlinux, which java do you want?11:07
naliothSeveas: ngmlinux wants to have his sun java in his operating path, but not his gnu java11:07
martiiadaptec provides some tools for java and redhat11:07
Seveasthen he should install a sun java .deb file11:07
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waldeI hate talking in ubuntu-regged :-)11:08
Hmmmmanyone got the new gnome yet?11:08
waldeI need some help with "wipe". Is it possible to wipe a whole device directly without running over a filesystem?11:08
ngmlinuxby the way i got a lot of errors when my java install finally worked11:08
ngmlinuxare errors okay?11:08
Seveasno11:09
ngmlinuxabout 50% of the output was errors11:09
ngmlinuxbut it finished this time11:09
ngmlinuxfinally11:09
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Seveaswhen did you get these errors?11:09
ngmlinuxa few minutes ago11:09
scanwinderis there something similar to google desktop for linux? i really want a sidebar in linux!!11:09
ngmlinuxi've been trying to install sun java for the last 16 hours11:09
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ngmlinuxalmost as quick as the 5 minutes it took in windows11:09
Seveasngmlinux, I mean, which command generated the errors?11:09
ngmlinuxoh11:10
ngmlinuxlet me check11:10
deFrysk scanwinder google has one available for linux afaIk11:10
ngmlinuxSeveas, i don't know my scroll back isn't long enough :-/11:10
Seveasngmlinux, ok, did you run the sun .bin file directly?11:10
scanwinderdeFrysk: got a url for that?11:10
deFryskgoogle.com11:11
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scanwinderdeFrysk: well i did a google search for afaIk and didnt find anything11:11
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scanwinderdeFrysk: well nothing called afaIk anyway11:11
ngmlinuxSeveas yes11:12
ngmlinuxthen i did some deb stuff i think11:12
ngmlinuxi can't rememeber11:12
Seveasngmlinux, ouch, running the deb directly is bad11:12
ngmlinuxit's 5:15 am and my mind doesn't work as well11:12
deFryskscanwinder,  http://labs.google.com/11:12
Seveasget some sleep and we'll solve it when you're awake :)11:12
ngmlinuxok Seveas i just uninstalled sun java11:12
ngmlinuxno i need this working by tommorow11:12
ngmlinuxfor a project11:12
ngmlinuxi have to install eclipse tommorow and scratchbox11:13
deFryskscanwinder, sorry, it need xp i see now11:13
Seveasok11:13
ngmlinuxthat will take a few days i'm sure11:13
ngmlinuxand i'm behind schedual11:13
ngmlinuxso this happens now11:13
Seveasgrab a .deb file for java from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:13
Bateau_Seveas: now steam doesnt start at all. and i get this wierd error saying: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201111:13
Seveasthese are correct ones11:13
scanwinderdeFrysk: yeah.......its really annoying that there isnt a linux one!11:13
ngmlinuxyou have the sdk?11:13
ngmlinuxi need the sdk deb11:13
ngmlinuxnot some jre only deb11:14
Seveasyes11:14
ngmlinuxokay11:14
Seveassdk 1.5 and sdk 1.411:14
scanwinderdeFrysk: google in considering making a linux version sometime tho.........but thatll be a long way off11:14
deFryskscanwinder, its just pretty spyware11:14
Hmmmmanyone got the new gnome yet?11:14
scanwinderdeFrysk: google dosent do spyware:P11:14
deFryskscanwinder, no ? ;)11:14
Seveasscanwinder, they do, they just call it different11:14
candlelightngmlinux, what java problem you having?11:15
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scanwinderwell i want a sidebar still!!!!!!11:15
deFryskscanwinder, complain @ google not here11:15
scanwinderlol....ppl already have.........and they're just like "we'll consider it"11:15
mattyJscanwinder: you looking for something like this? http://mono-project.com/files/2/2b/Dashboard.screenshot.png11:16
deFryskscanwinder, its harder to make spyware for linux thats why it takes a while I guess11:16
ngmlinuxthanks Seveas11:16
topyliscanwinder: not much we can do11:16
ngmlinuxthat's downloading now11:16
Seveasok11:16
sexcopter8000mwoot, /me feels chuffed. I managed to install a latex plugin for gaim ^^11:16
Seveasinstall that with dpkg -i sun-blabla.deb11:16
scanwinderdeFrysk: yes, that looks good11:16
sexcopter8000mso now i can talk mathsy stuff to all my chums :P11:16
Seveasthat should give sun java higher preference11:16
ngmlinuxcandlelight, tons of random errors then i don't know how to switch off gnu and turn on sun java11:16
Seveasif not, come back and we'll do it manually11:17
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sexcopter8000mplus it's the first thing i've attempted to install outside apt-get :P11:17
scanwinderanyone know where i can find a deb package for dashboard?11:18
sexcopter8000mnow, next project... getting windows games working... sorry this might be a really annoying question you get all the time, but i don't quite get the difference between wine and cedega, and which i want11:18
ngmlinuxSeveas about 8 minutes to go on this dl11:19
Seveasngmlinux, that's reasonably fast considering my upstream is only 1mbit :)11:19
topylisexcopter8000m: cool. not that i exchange mathematical formulas with my buddies on gaim very much :)11:19
sexcopter8000mhehe topyli, i confess to doing a maths degree :s11:19
mattyJscanwinder: i think you can find it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32725&highlight=dashboard11:20
ngmlinuxwhat country you located in Seveas?11:20
SeveasBateau_, that error is a bit too cedega-specific. Can't help with that11:20
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LaserLineWhat kernel should I choose on an AMD AthlonXP 2700+ with 1 GB ram ?? and will it support the 1 GB I have ?11:20
Seveasngmlinux, N:11:20
SeveasNL11:20
ngmlinuxi'm in ny, usa11:20
candlelightngmlinux, I believe others may have advised to install Sun java using synaptic?11:20
naliothLaserLine: 68611:20
ngmlinuxcandlelight, no you can't java is not gnu11:21
LaserLinenalioth what is the K7 kernel ?>11:21
ngmlinuxyou have to start it elsewhere11:21
ngmlinuxthen you can manage it in synaptyic11:21
Seveascandlelight, that would require adding hoary-extras, which has (about) the same java .debs as I have :)11:21
candlelightngmlinux, yes I install the 1.5 update 4 through synaptic11:21
ngmlinuxyeah i'd like to see that candelight11:21
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ngmlinuxi'm gonna use Seveas .deb11:22
sexcopter8000mwhat happens if i apt-get install a_package and that package is already installed? will it just ignore it or screw up?11:22
Seveassexcopter8000m, it will ignore and say 'Hey, that's alreadey installed!'11:22
LaserLineWhen I install ubuntu in addition to my windows xp, should I choose "is this partition bootable" yes or no ??11:22
ngmlinuxSeveas, ok once i get this file what am i doing? a sudo dpkg -i file.deb and cross my fingers?11:22
sexcopter8000mok :)11:22
Jefiswhen kubuntu boots, it sets wrong time, it trys to sincronize with HARDWARE, how to disable that?11:22
Seveasngmlinux, yes11:22
ngmlinuxthen can you instruct me how to set my java to sun and not gnu?11:23
Seveasngmlinux, the .deb *should* do that for you11:23
candlelightSeveas, ic, but installing through synaptic just work, I didn't need to do anything else and running "java" or "javac" just works11:23
ngmlinuxnice, i hope so Seveas11:23
naliothLaserLine: you might try that, also. either one will work11:23
Seveascandlelight, do you have hoary-extras enabled?11:23
candlelightSeveas, i guess so11:23
LaserLineWhat is the diffrence with the K7 kernel and 686 kernel for AthlonXP ? (what's better ?)11:23
SeveasK7 is athlon-tuned11:24
ngmlinuxbtw i have breezy set in synaptic11:24
aftertafLaserLine:  686 is for P411:24
candlelightSeveas, whatever was told in the wiki ubuntu11:24
ngmlinuxinstead of hoary11:24
LaserLineboth kernels support 1GB ram ?11:24
Seveasyes11:24
candlelightngmlinux, if to avoid add extra repo, can download from Sun's site and install directly11:24
Seveascandlelight, that's a bad thing11:24
LaserLineSeveas - the yes was for me ?11:24
SeveasLaserLine, yes :)11:25
candlelightSeveas, perhaps..11:25
LaserLineSeveas, and what drivers for the Asus A7N8X deluxe mother board ? and ATI Radeon 9500PRO ?11:25
Seveas!ati11:26
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:26
ngmlinuxcandlelight, i've tried everything11:26
ngmlinuxi've been working on this for 16 hours11:26
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LaserLineSeveas that's for ATI, I found that... and for the Mobo ? A7N8X Deluxe (nforce2)11:26
ngmlinuxit's not that simple11:26
deFryskLaserLine, int that via82xx ?11:27
SeveasLaserLine, search the forums for nforce if you run into problems11:27
candlelightngmlinux, unpacking the tar ball from Sun's site is not too much additional work than installing through synaptic11:27
Seveasit should work without hassle11:27
onkarshindeSeveas: I thought K7 was for some old AMD processor. Are you sure it is Athlon XP optimised? Can you point me to a page which says that?11:27
LaserLinedeFrysk nope, it's nVidia nForce2 chipset with SoundStorm...11:27
candlelightngmlinux, perhaps just need to create some symlink to your local, or reference it directly11:27
Seveascandlelight, it just f*s up your system :)11:27
ngmlinuxyeah Seveas is right11:27
candlelightSeveas, I'm new to ubuntu, how does that be true?11:28
deFryskLaserLine, oww11:28
LaserLinecandlelight I'm looking for a page now, and i can't find one... but we can install both :D11:28
Seveasbecause that crappy installer install stuff all over the place11:28
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Almindoris there a gui config tool for services?11:28
Seveasand does not utilice the extremely useful alternatives system that debian and ubuntu have11:28
candlelightSeveas, oh.. I'm not refering the installer11:28
Seveas!tell Almindor about bum11:28
candlelightSeveas, I'm refering the one without an installer, just unpack and use it11:29
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ngmlinuxSeveas, sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb11:29
ngmlinuxright?11:29
candlelightngmlinux is running out of time right? just unpack, and use straight away11:29
naliothSeveas: bum allows you to turn on and off services?11:29
Seveasngmlinux, yeah11:29
catfoxsorry all, i know this is ot but does anyone know the command for creating a new file in an msdos prompt? :)11:29
LaserLineSeveas, still searching for the nForce2 documentation and ubuntu - can't find any, any tips if any drivers are required ?11:29
onkarshindecatfox: you mean 'copy con'?11:30
onkarshindecatfox: copy con filename11:30
SeveasLaserLine, 'forcedeth' if your ethernet card fails to work11:30
catfoxonkarshinde: i think thats the one11:30
catfoxonkarshinde: cool, thanks11:30
ngmlinuxSeveas, as suspected11:30
ngmlinuxthis did not work either11:30
Seveaserrors?11:30
ngmlinuxno errors11:30
Seveasot path not set correctly?11:30
ngmlinuxbut when i11:30
ngmlinuxjava -version11:30
ngmlinuxit's still set to gnu11:30
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Seveasok, then we correct it manually11:30
LaserLineforcedeth is the name of the package ?11:31
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Seveaswait one second11:31
naliothSeveas: is there a setting he can put in his .bashrc or something?11:31
Seveasnalioth, even better :)11:31
phrizerWhats the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in synaptic?11:31
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naliothphrizer: 'complete' takes out config files11:31
ngmlinuxphrizer, mare for compelete removal pulls the settings11:31
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LaserLineI have 2 network adapters on the mobo, one from nVidia and the other from 3Com11:31
Seveasngmlinux, use this command:11:32
Seveassudo update-alternatives --config java11:32
Seveassudo update-alternatives --config javac11:32
Seveas(both are needed)11:32
Almindoroi thanks for that11:32
Seveasselect the sun java and javac11:32
phrizerah11:32
AlmindorI have a "setting up general consolefont: failure" on boot11:32
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LaserLineSeveas Can't find what the 'forcedeth' mean....11:32
Almindornothing critical, just wish to know what can cause this11:32
phrizerdoes synaptic remove dependencies that are not required anymore?11:32
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SeveasLaserLine, that's the nforce ethernet driver11:33
Seveasphrizer, not yet11:33
ngmlinuxHALLEJLUAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:33
Seveasdebfoster can give you a hand with that11:33
Seveasngmlinux, relax11:33
ngmlinuxTHANK YOU SEVEAS11:33
Seveasyou're not there yet :)11:33
Seveas(but VERY close)11:33
ngmlinuxk11:34
ngmlinuxwhat's next11:34
Seveasput the output of ls -al /etc/alternatives on the pastebin11:34
LaserLineSeveas I can't find it via synaptic...11:34
naliothSeveas: tell me the truth. you ARE running with a 200TB fiberoptic backend, aren't you?11:34
SeveasLaserLine, it's already on your system, you might need to modprobe it11:34
Seveaslike this: modprobe forcedeth11:34
deFryskuse sudo11:34
LaserLineSeveas and what'll have to do to make it work on boot up time ?11:35
phrizerSeveas,  yet?11:35
SeveasLaserLine, add forcedeth to /etc/modules11:35
LaserLineSeveas, I'll need to install 'nvidia-glx'  package because i have an nForce2 based mobo or is that just for nVidia graphics ?11:36
phrizerhm, when i mark something for removal, it says "To be removed: Ubuntu desktop"11:36
ngmlinuxSeveas http://pastebin.com/35781511:36
phrizerwhats that about? its going to kill my desktop?11:36
phrizer;x11:36
candlelightLaserLine, I install that nvidia-glx for my nvidia graphic card11:37
deFryskphrizer, no prob ubuntu-deskopt is a metapackage11:37
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deFryskubuntu-desktop represents a set of packages11:37
Seveasngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config jar11:37
phrizeroh11:37
Seveasngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config jar.1.gz11:37
twibblermorning all.. here is an intersting ?... with a laptop you can put an external monitor on... How on Ubuntu do you have both external monitor and laptop monitor working as the ctrl f5 wont switch ?...11:38
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Seveasngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config rmic11:38
ngmlinuxno alternatives for jar.1.gz11:38
Seveasok, then skip that one11:38
ngmlinuxok11:38
phrizerso if i wanted to remove rhythmbox for example. it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop...11:38
ngmlinuxrmic is set already correctly11:39
ngmlinuxSeveas: any others11:39
deFryskphrizer, yes for its a part of ubuntu-desktop11:39
Seveasngmlinux, congratulations11:39
Seveasyou're done.11:39
ngmlinuxSWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET11:39
ngmlinuxnow if I install eclipse from synaptic it will automatically use sun java?11:39
Seveasafaik it should11:40
ngmlinuxnice11:40
ngmlinuxwow11:40
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ngmlinuxthat was WAY more difficult than it should have bene11:40
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naliothphrizer: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-pkg, you only need to make sure it's installed when you dist-upgrade11:41
naliothngmlinux: sorry i got out of my depth11:41
Somada141Stupid Question :Why when i turn into sudo with sudo -s -H in terminal mode i can't write in folders such as usr/local ?11:41
ngmlinuxthat's alright, at least you found someone for me that could help11:42
ngmlinuxi thank you for that and your time11:42
phrizerhmm11:42
deFryskphrizer, again its a symbolic package representing a set of packages11:43
ngmlinuxby the way what does bootstrap mean as it relates to linux applications?11:43
phrizerokay cool.11:43
phrizerthanks.11:43
Seveasngmlinux, it can mean a lot of things...11:44
ngmlinuxwhat's it mean when there's a boostrap version of an app?11:44
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ngmlinuxis that like a light version?11:44
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Seveashmm, wouldn't know, i'd need some more context..11:44
osfameronGah.  ubuntu just logged me out without warning11:44
osfameronWhere can I find out why that happened?11:45
naliothseveas just five lines for the java settings?11:45
Seveasnalioth, yup11:45
Seveaslong live update-alternatives :)11:45
aapeliiWhat is gam_server? It is using really much memory. Im using breezy...11:45
osfameronI don't have anything mapped to "Log Out" in Keyboard preferences11:46
osfameronany suggestions?11:46
Seveasaapelii, don't confuse shared memory and exclusive memory11:46
ngmlinuxSeveas i have an option in Synaptic to install the boostrap version of eclipse11:47
ngmlinuxany ideas??11:47
Seveasi'll check11:47
ngmlinuxecj-boostrap11:47
ngmlinuxis the package name11:47
Seveasthat's the eclipse java compiler11:48
Seveasi'd suggest not using that :)11:48
ngmlinuxokay11:49
ngmlinuxso that's an alternative to gcj?11:49
ngmlinuxSeveas?11:49
Seveasyes11:49
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ngmlinuxok it's not a front end for gcj though right?11:49
Seveasnope11:50
ngmlinuxokay11:51
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thoreauputichahahah11:51
thoreauputicgood one!11:51
Gorgonzolajava should always be offtopic ;)11:52
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ompauland the words thank you never crossed the screen11:53
osfameronSystem Log just says "Session closed for user ..." at the time ubuntu kicked me out11:53
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osfameronanyone got any suggestions as to why that happened?11:53
osfameron(On the basis that I didn't tell it to log out, and want to know why :-)11:53
ompaultake it easy, and have a nice time11:53
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cafuegoosfameron: it was probably time to log out anyway.11:54
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osfameroncafuego: unfortunately not... late morning here :-)11:55
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naliothi hate bots11:56
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pravinethow can  i remove X ?11:56
cafuegonalioth: psst, ubotu is one too11:57
naliothcafuego: ubotu knows his place11:57
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cafuegonalioth: yeah, Brisbane.11:58
Seveas!goo'boy11:58
ubotuAww, thanks dad.11:58
naliothSeveas: ah ha! you are related!11:59
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cafuego!nalioth11:59
ubotuMummy!11:59
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Seveasrofl12:00
osfameronso, no suggestions on where to look about ubuntu randomly logging me out?12:00
naliothROFL12:00
Seveasosfameron, not really :|12:00
osfameronoh well12:00
cafuegoosfameron: has is happened more than once?12:00
osfameronno, it's the first time, though my laptop occasionally shuts down if it gets too hot (under XP too)12:01
osfameronunlike XP, I was hoping there might be something sane in the logs12:01
osfameronhence the question :-)12:01
cafuegoosfameron: *any* chance you may have accidentally clicked 'Log out' ?12:01
osfameroncafuego: I would normally say no, as I'm not that fat fingered12:02
vuI have just installed ubuntu for the first time on an old laptop IBM 380ED logged in and have the command prompt.  startx does not work...any suggestions12:02
cafuegovu: install X?12:02
osfameronon the other hand the touchpad is badly configured and does occasionally snap to bottom of screen and click, randomly12:02
osfameronbut log out is at top of screen *and* in a submenu12:02
osfameronseems unlikely12:02
cafuegoosfameron: Well, if it happens again i'd worry.. if not, clack it up to cosmic radiation or something ;-)12:03
cafuegos/clack/chalk/12:03
osfameronclack is good too12:03
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aftertafloool cafuego12:04
cafuegotry that again and the other one goes too :-P12:04
NoHopehello all12:04
aftertafhi hopeless12:04
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Seveascafuego, there already is only one of them left12:05
NoHopehey do you know what does [warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").]  mean? I did dist-upgrade and now upgrade and every package is returning me this error...12:05
dazvidI thought the jackson 5 sang that song?12:05
dazvid;/12:05
aftertafNoHope:  try dpkg-reconfigure locales12:05
aftertafthat helped me once12:05
Seveasdazvid, that's no reason for cafuego to not kill a beegee :)12:05
dazvidlol ! point taken12:06
aftertaf:D Seveas12:06
naliothSeveas: i have a question. i have ibm java installed, and it isnt showing up in the --config java box12:06
phrizerrhythmbox keeps 'sticking' for a second or two every now and then while playing a mp3 ;/12:06
osfameronphrizer: yarr, me too12:06
Seveasnalioth, did you install a .deb file for it ?12:06
NoHopeaftertaf, please, see the output, is it correct?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201212:07
aftertafosfameron:  you speaking like a pirate?? :D12:07
naliothyes, i did (from a deb)12:07
aftertaflooking, NoHope ..12:07
osfameronaftertaf: shiver me timbers!  you be right, yarrr me hearty12:07
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NoHopeaftertaf, I think I will try apt-get dist-upgrade again.12:08
vucafuego,12:08
vudf12:08
aftertafNoHope:  not good,12:08
aftertafi had that type of msg once12:08
vuoops sorry  ;-)12:08
NoHopewhy perl? is dpkg and apt-get perl scripts?12:08
NoHopes/is/are (my bad english...)12:09
aftertafneed to reset environment variables or sth like that, i never pulled it of myself12:09
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phrizerosfameron, oh um cool (i guess) at least im not hearing things then.12:09
phrizerheh12:09
phrizerwonder why it does that though12:09
aftertafosfameron:  AAARrrrrrrrrr matey p-)12:09
phrizerrather annoying.12:09
osfameronphrizer: I guess it's when CPU is busy?12:09
osfameronI wonder if you could guarantee it a certain amount of CPU or increase its priority or something?12:10
NoHopeaftertaf, thank you, I will search something in the web and maybe I return to ask to the people.12:10
phrizerHmm.12:10
osfameronseems a bit drastic.  iTunes on Win never skipped for me, so it must be possible for a music player not to do that...12:10
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twibblerNoHope: try which dplkg | xargs file should give you the type of file ....12:11
phrizerwhen its playing though my cpu usage is normally only around 10 - 20%12:11
osfameronah.  Sorry, I meant "arrrrrrr"12:12
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NoHopetwibbler, dpkg?12:13
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twibblerNohope: Dyslexia Rules ...12:14
NoHopetwibbler, ???. dplkg doesn't exist and just dpkg ask for an argument.12:15
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thoreauputictwibbler: shouldn't that be ysleDxia ?12:15
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BiSK-8hello12:16
BiSK-8how do i copy a file on to a floppy disk?12:16
cosmotrollhello12:16
BiSK-8hello cosmotroll12:17
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BiSK-8all i need 2 know is the path to a floppy disk12:17
thoreauputicBiSK-8: /dev/fd012:17
BiSK-8there is no fd012:18
BiSK-8only fd12:18
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thoreauputicBiSK-8: how many floppy drives do you have?12:18
bimberiBiSK-8: has the floppy been mounted?12:18
BiSK-8112:18
BiSK-8no12:18
SeveasBiSK-8, you can use mcopy /path/to/file a:/12:18
BiSK-8how do i mount it then?12:18
thoreauputicBiSK-8: no /dev/fd0 sounds a bit weird12:19
Seveasyou don't need to12:19
BiSK-8u ppl r confusing me12:19
BiSK-8i put the floppy in the drive12:19
BiSK-8now from the desktop i wanna copy 3 files 2 it12:19
BiSK-8how do i?12:19
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Seveasin a terminal you do: mcopy file1 file2 file3 a:\\12:20
BiSK-8bash: mcopy: command not found12:21
Seveasinstall the mtools package12:21
thoreauputicSeveas: not installed by  default :|12:21
thoreauputicright12:21
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spolauhm ... if its anything like my desktop a floppy icon will pop up12:23
spolai just doubleclick the floppy and drag-drop12:23
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BiSK-8ok12:24
BiSK-8i copied all to floppy12:24
BiSK-8now how do i see what is on the floppy?12:24
twibblerNoHope: which dpkg | xargs file lists the dpkg as a  ELF 32-bit LSB executable on my system ...12:24
bimberiBiSK-8: Places -> Computer, if there is a floppy icon, right click and select Mount12:25
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NoHopetwibbler, dpkg asks for an argument.12:26
bimberiBiSK-8: actually you might be able to simply double-click12:26
BiSK-8oh12:26
BiSK-8taht's why12:26
BiSK-8it's on a windows file system12:26
BiSK-8ok12:26
BiSK-82 format what do i do?12:26
NoHopetwibbler, strange... I did dist-upgrade and I see no gtk 2.8, no gnome 2.12, no new packages.12:26
BiSK-8format a:\ ?12:27
bimberiBiSK-8: Applications -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter12:27
BiSK-8ok12:28
BiSK-8tks12:28
BiSK-8bye12:28
twibblerNoHope; weird ....12:28
NoHopeany Breezy forum yet? Just Hoary and Warty?12:28
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moomooboycan someone help me...12:29
deFryskNoHope, breezy is not released yet12:29
moomooboy"Totem could not startup. - Failed to create a Gstreamer play object"12:29
NoHopedeFrysk, yah... I think it's a good idea to wait, my dist-upgrade to breezy is not working well, strange...12:30
deFryskNoHope, updated the sources.list properly ?12:30
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MyrttiI'd do upgrade to B no earlier that max two weeks before the official release12:30
moomooboyi got it working last time... >< but i just reinstalled ubuntu ><12:30
NoHopedeFrysk, yes, s/hoary/breezy, right?12:30
Bateau_on my mouse i have 2 extra buttons, witch works as back and forward in history in a browser (in windows) can i get it to work that way in Ubuntu as well?12:31
Myrttibtw, is B already having graphical install?12:31
deFryskyes12:31
pngi need a tool to resize my ext3 disk without loosing files?12:31
moomooboycan anyone teach me on how to fix this part??12:31
deFryskNoHope, did you get no updates at all ?12:31
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Myrttimoomooboy: surely it didn't work right out the box last time, either?12:32
NoHopedeFrysk, any updates. and then I just apt-get upgrade, but I received the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201212:32
moomooboyyeh12:32
moomooboybut i forgot how i did it :(12:32
hyphenatedmoomooboy: gst-register-0.8 sound familiar?12:32
moomooboyso i wanna be sure this time..12:32
moomooboyhmmm12:32
moomooboyyes i think so lol..12:32
moomooboyim suppose to type that in ?12:32
deFryskNoHope, and then the upgrade stopped ?12:32
NoHopedeFrysk, it's [dpkg-reconfigure locales]  error12:32
hyphenatedas a shell command, yeah12:32
deFryskNoHope, or did you stop it yourself ?12:33
NoHopedeFrysk, It seems have downloaded everything correctly, but didn't install it.12:33
NoHopedeFrysk, it stopped.12:33
deFryskNoHope, try apt-get -f install12:33
NoHopesame error...12:34
deFryskapt-get update12:34
deFryskand then apt-get dist-upgrade again12:34
hyphenatedmoomooboy: ask in the channel. I dont' read private messages12:35
moomooboyokies12:35
moomooboywell i still dont get what to do12:35
moomooboycause im new to linux :|12:35
hyphenatedand I don't get to help you, because I'm tired and going home12:36
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moomooboyam i suppose to type that gst-register in the Command line?12:37
Daemonichow might I go about disabling some things I don't need during the bootup process..?12:37
Myrttimoomooboy: well don't write it in your jeans12:37
Myrttithat would be no help12:38
MyrttiYES, write it in the command line12:38
MyrttiDaemonic: root?12:38
Myrtti-.-12:38
moomooboygst-register didnt do anything :| ?.. am i suppose to put sudo in the front?12:39
Myrttitry that12:39
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Daemonicholy crap12:39
dazviddoes anyone have steam working on ubuntu? I need to know if its possible before I try and do it :)12:39
deFryskmoomooboy, its gst-register-0.812:39
deFryskmoomooboy, no sudo needed ;)12:39
Myrttiof course he would have to have the gst-thingies installed too12:40
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Daemonicway too much of my memory is being used.. this is /no/ good. =\12:40
pnghow can i resize my ext3 disk without loosing any data?12:40
deFryskDaemonic, linux uses your ram optimally12:40
bimberiDaemonic: a good portion will be disk cache12:40
moomooboyThanks ^^ .. i still dont get what happened lol.. if someone could write me a explaination on what happen :P.. would appriciate it :P..12:41
deFryskDaemonic, unused ram is wasted ram12:41
moomooboycan someone explain to me in simple terms.. how to activate packages..12:41
deFryskmoomooboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation lost of explanations12:41
moomooboylol okok.. i guess ill stick to that12:41
DaemonicdeFrysk, well, compared to the many other distros I use this one is using way too much.. I only noticed because the gnome is getting slower and the swap is being used more and more.12:42
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naliothok i'm back12:42
deFryskDaemonic, running java apps perhaps ?12:42
moomooboyoh oh another question..  which program can i use for linux to multidownload a file?12:42
NoHopethx people, deFrysk, I'm tring dist-upgrade again, thx.12:42
DaemonicdeFrysk, negative.12:42
Myrttimultidownload?12:43
deFryskDaemonic, run top and check what is using your swap12:43
moomooboyas in12:43
moomooboymulti connections to a website .. programs like flashget12:44
deFryskmoomooboy, a download accelarator ?12:44
moomooboyyes yes12:44
Myrttino need for them, I think12:44
Seveasd4l perhaps moomooboy12:44
moomooboyno need for a download accelerator?12:45
moomooboyummm then what can i use?.. to download faster?12:45
Myrttibut try Seveas's suggestion12:46
moomooboyi cant find d4l?12:46
Seveasyou can't download faste than your connection speed....12:46
dazvidSeveas: but they are helpful for slow servers.. where you can get multiple connections ;)12:46
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Seveasyou can't download faste than the servers upload speed....12:46
dazvidI realise12:46
Myrttinot nice, that12:46
moomooboyyeh12:46
naliothSeveas: any idears on why my java didnt show in the selections?12:47
Myrttiyou're hogging the server from other users12:47
Kanohi, what unionfs system is used for the ubuntu live cd?12:47
deFryskmoomooboy, gwget is a nice downloadtool12:47
moomooboywell the server i download from allows it12:47
dazvidbut if they cap the speed to a single connection, and you make multiple connections, you are going to get more12:47
dazvidMyrtti: true that12:47
dazvidJust saying that it does increase the speed12:47
Seveasdazvid, speedcaps are there for a reason12:47
moomooboygwget thanks .. ill search that up12:47
Myrttiprevent hogging12:47
Seveascheating around them is stupid12:47
deFryskmoomooboy, sudo apt-get install gwget12:48
Myrttigod I'm hungry12:48
dazvidLook I dont use them, I was just stating a fact :P12:48
naliothdeFrysk: gwget?12:48
dazvidi just find good mirrors nowadays12:48
HiddenFlyhow can i make ubuntu to do echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss every time i boot ubuntu?12:49
moomooboyDefrysk is it gwget2?12:49
Seveasadd that line to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh just before exit12:49
HiddenFlyok thx12:49
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deFryskgwget is not in breezy ?12:53
deFryskhoary i mean ?12:53
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deFrysk!info gwget12:53
naliothdeFrysk: search in synaptic (pkg names and contents) for wget12:53
bimberigwget2 is12:53
deFrysknalioth, I have it ;)12:53
deFryskcould be gwget2 in hoary12:54
deFrysk!info gwget212:54
vanbergehow do you say "ubuntu"...?   :-)      is it you-bun-too?  or  maybe "ooh-bun-too"12:54
ubotugwget2: (GNOME 2 wget front-end), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.7-3.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 284 kB12:54
jon1012hello12:54
Seveasvanberge, the latter12:54
vanbergeSeveas, ty..  :-)12:54
Seveasor actuallt ooh-boon-too with all oo's as in moon12:54
thoreauputicvanberge: more or less oo-boon-too12:54
deFryskmoomooboy, its gwet212:54
moomooboyyeh i installed it12:54
jon1012wow do much time for the next ubuntu :-/12:55
moomooboybut it doesnt have the feature of login and password :|12:55
deFryskmoomooboy, with noautilus you can download and upload to ftp servers using passwd and stuff12:55
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deFrysknautilus*12:55
deFryskmoomooboy, if you would like an ftp client try gftp12:56
moomooboyis it possible to configure firefox itself to download faster?12:56
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Kanomoomooboy: you can raise max. connections12:57
deFryskmoomooboy, does firefox download slow then ?12:57
aftertafhmmm. i've just installed a new ubuntu on the LAN, i want to learn export display etc... But how do i get it to use apt sources via a http proxy? i've setup wget for proxying...12:58
osfameron!dual-monitor12:58
ubotuNo idea, osfameron12:58
osfameron!dual12:58
ubotuosfameron: What?12:58
osfameronany suggestions? :-(12:58
moomooboyi dont thikn firefox is downloaded @ 10 connections to the website12:59
thoreauputicosfameron: xinerama  ? (never used it, but heard of it)12:59
osfameronthoreauputic: ta, I'll try12:59
deFryskmoomooboy, why the downloadspeed obsession ?01:00
moomooboybecause i have off peak and peak for my downloads01:00
moomooboyso i wanna download @ 2am with fast speeds01:00
deFryskmoomooboy, you will download as fast as your provider lets you01:00
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moomooboyyes...01:01
deFryskmoomooboy, end of story ;)01:01
synicanyone running breezy and using an sb live?  The gdm startup sound just plays over and over again...01:01
moomooboybut i cant max that speed if the website only allows 50kb a sec01:01
moomooboyfor 1 connections01:01
moomooboyif i use 10 connections to 1 file01:01
moomooboyi can download @ 500kbs01:01
thoreauputicmoomooboy: be a good netizen and don't leach :)01:01
deFryskwhat files are you talking about ?01:01
moomooboybut i have 40 gigs for offpeak01:02
moomooboyanime files.. they are like 170mb each01:02
aftertafmoomooboy:  http://www.google.com/search?q=download%20accelerator%20linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-801:02
thoreauputicmoomooboy: bo-one here is going to encourage you to abuse servers. End of story01:02
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thoreauputic*no-one01:02
deFryskmoomooboy, just be awary that linux is faster on the web them windows ever will be ;)01:03
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ffxhi all01:03
moomooboythat i know .. but i want fast :P01:03
naliothmoomooboy: use the big daddy of em all, prozilla01:04
deFryskmoomooboy, what thoreauputic said01:04
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thoreauputicmoomooboy: which part of that is hard to understand?01:04
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naliothmoomooboy: and keep in mind you will be seriously hoggin bandwidth with that program01:04
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naliothmoomooboy: you may clog yourself from anything else on the web01:05
moomooboyprozilla .. ok ill downlaod that01:05
naliothmoomooboy: use synaptic01:05
naliothmoomooboy: or apt-get01:05
aftertafapt via proxy = create /etc/apt/apt.conf and add Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:port";01:05
Myrttigeez I love that nail polish... back to work.01:06
thoreauputic!tell moomooboy about conduct01:06
thoreauputicmoomooboy: what you want is not in the spirit of Ubuntu01:06
naliothmoomooboy: so show restraint when you use prozilla01:07
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aftertafubotu, apt-proxy is  To use apt via a Http proxy, create a new file by typing "sudo /etc/apt/apt.conf" and add this text     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://yourproxy:yourport";      then close and save the file.01:07
ubotuaftertaf: okay01:07
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thoreauputicnalioth: heh -I'm on dialup - bit pointless really01:08
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thoreauputicOK farewell all - have fun...01:10
dazvidbye thoreauputic01:10
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moomooboyhow do i install prozilla01:10
moomooboyi downloaded with01:11
moomooboySynaptic01:11
Seveassynaptic installs it01:11
moomooboyso where is it :)?01:11
cosmotrollI've successfully install this week ubuntu over 10 machines, the home directories are mounted via a nfs exported directory from a server. NIS/YP are well configured so that users can log on successfully on a machine. Before we were using kde/debian. I've decided to use only Gnome. The problem is that the new gnome session of the distributed users do not look "standard": the sessions are not the same as the default install user. For example there is no01:11
cosmotroll automounting of usbkey or CD devices on the gnome desktop.01:11
Seveasdpkg -L prozilla01:11
Seveascosmotroll, add all users to the plugdev etc... groups and make sure that these groups are exported over NIS01:12
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osfameronhmmm, libxinerama appears to be a shared library01:13
osfameronno client in my repositories01:13
cosmotrollthanks Seveas, i'll try this01:13
Seveasby default the MIN_GID in /var/yp/Makefile is 1000, you might need to change that01:13
CaiN_SAhow do i change the usplash image ?01:13
wickedpuppyin ubuntu livecd whats the password for user "ubuntu" ??01:16
moomooboyummm seveas01:16
deFryskwickedpuppy, <enter>01:16
wickedpuppynot disabled ?01:16
moomooboyi type in what you told me to type in01:16
moomooboyumm it extracted everything01:17
deFryskwickedpuppy, sudo <enter>01:17
wickedpuppyone of my friends want to disable screensaver01:17
moomooboyhow do i use prozilla?01:17
naliothmoomooboy: open a terminal and type "man prozilla"01:17
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deFryskmoomooboy, man prozilla01:17
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Adrossif i'm downloading stuff from synaptic, can i turn off my comp and turn it back on later with all the downloads still be there?01:18
moomooboythx thx01:18
chrissturmhmm, i have an acer travelmate, with hoary powermanagement worked, and now with breezy the screen stays black after wakeup01:19
naliothAdross: apt will pick up where it left off (given the same command)01:19
bimberi_wickedpuppy: <ctrl><alt>F2 then set a password with "sudo passwd ubuntu"01:19
Adrossnalioth: thanks01:19
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syndnalioth: youre up early01:20
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No1Viking01:20
aftertafwooooow01:20
naliothsynd: up? havent been asleep01:20
aftertafi'm controlling the PC opposite me in console via ssh... for the first time ever :)01:21
aftertafthis is great :D01:21
naliothaftertaf: ssh opens up many possibilitys01:21
syndaftertaf: congradulations01:21
naliothaftertaf: wait until you xforward your first app01:21
syndcongratulations*01:21
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Myrttiaftertaf: you wanna hear something really nasty?01:22
sn0neven if he does.. i dont..01:22
Myrttiaftertaf: we run a debian server at home, and KDE on it01:22
aftertaf:)01:22
sn0nEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww01:22
sn0nim totally disgusted.01:22
aftertafnalioth:  thats what im trying to do.....01:22
aftertafup until today, ive never even had 2 linux boxes on the same network01:22
Myrttiaftertaf: and sometimes I have to use it and don't bother to take extra steps01:22
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naliothMyrtti: it that supposed to be like "want to hear something nasty?" "A white horse fell in the mud"01:23
aftertafthx nalioth & synd :D01:23
naliothaftertaf: aint but a thing01:23
aftertafMyrtti:  and ....01:23
Myrttiaftertaf: so I run ssh to access the console, make myself root with su, then make myself the user running KDE with su user, and start xvnc01:23
Gorgonzolai haven't even had a go at setting up SSH yet... i got side-tracked once i stumbled upon Blender3d .. hehe01:23
seliniumnalio0th: xforward?01:24
vanbergewould it be easy to turn on color recognition using Vi with gnome-terminal?  I.e. syntax highlighting on html files01:24
Myrttiaftertaf: then I start vncclient on my computer and get the KDE screen on my gnome :->01:24
Seveasvanberge, :set syntax html01:24
larsrohdincan someone name a good imageviewer? easy to use, for just showing the next image and so on... my computer doesn't seem to like pornview01:24
aftertafMyrtti:  you can also do this: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.....01:24
aftertaf;)01:24
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mdkecan someone with a windows partition please show me their grub entry?01:24
seliniumnalioth: xforward?01:25
mdkei can't get mine booted01:25
naliothselinium: it is possible to run programs from another puter (for instance you have a 80286 that is networked, you can run x programs from another -perhaps newer/faster- box)01:25
aftertafmdke:  check the grub.conf file01:25
naliothlarsrohdin: there's dozens of them01:25
Myrttiaftertaf: that doesn't bring the programs running on the server with it ;-)01:25
vanbergeSeveas, unknown option: html01:25
vanberge:-)01:25
Seveasmdke http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201301:25
larsrohdinnalioth, yeah i know, thats why i could use some advice.. whats your favorite01:25
mdkeSeveas, merci01:26
seliniumnalioth: how do you do that then?01:26
osfameronvanberge,  :set syn=html01:26
aftertafmdke:  /boot/grub/menu.lst01:26
naliothlarsrohdin: i'm a terminal junkie, i use feh01:26
seliniumhi Seveas01:26
aftertafohh. Seveas hehe ok01:26
aftertafMyrtti:  true.....01:26
naliothselinium: not sure, i have to ask uncle google every time i do it01:26
Seveasvanberge, sorry it's :syntax on01:26
mdkeaftertaf, you didn't read my question!01:26
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naliothselinium: but it's quite simple01:26
aftertafi did....01:26
larsrohdinnalioth, yeah i have feh, but can you go to next picture and stuff like that with it?01:26
SeveasI have that in my vimrc so I tend to forget it :)01:27
cacoph0nyhi all01:27
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aftertafbut Seveas got there b4 me01:27
cosmotrollSeveas, how do i add my users to the plugdev group. the line in my etc/passwd for my users is: +@fyma::0:0:::/bin/bash. And in the /etc/group: +01:27
seliniumnalioth, lol cheers, i will have a look!01:27
naliothlarsrohdin: via the keyboard or mouse01:27
cacoph0nyhow do i format a single drive in ubuntu01:27
cacoph0nyas i only have one hard drive01:27
vanbergeSeveas, is there an easy way to do that permanently?01:27
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vanbergethat did work01:27
naliothlarsrohdin: i like feh, cuz you can make it as complex or as simple as you like in an alias01:27
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Seveascosmotroll, make sure that on the NIS server they are added to that group and that that froup is exported (use ypcat group to check this)01:27
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larsrohdinnalioth, ok... i check up on that... can you make slideshows and stuff like that?01:28
naliothlarsrohdin: yessir, i have a slideshow using feh as on of my aliases01:28
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synicwhere's the new menu editor in gnome 2.12?01:28
larsrohdinnalioth, ok thanks alot, ill give feh another try01:28
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CaiN_SAguys01:28
CaiN_SAhow can i change the image usplash uses01:28
naliothlarsrohdin: or an executable .sh in my /usr/local/bin (i cant remember)01:28
Seveassynic, rightclick on the menu01:29
deFrysksynic, sudo apt-get install smeg01:29
Seveasyou can launch it from there01:29
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deFryskwow Seveas thats cool :)01:29
synicnifty01:30
deFrysksynic, indeed01:30
deFryskits soo easy you would almost miss it01:30
synicis there a way to add new items to it?01:30
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deFrysksynic, new entry button01:31
synicdon't have one01:31
deFrysksynic, at the bottom of smeg01:31
reikimust.....wait.....for.....breezy.....must ....not....be....tempted.....01:31
aftertafreiki:  zen dude :)01:31
reikiindeed01:32
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Seveasyinnnnnnnnnnn01:32
aftertafCho Ku Rei01:32
Seveasyannnnngggggg01:32
Myrttireiki: come to the bright side01:32
reikiHon Sha Ze Sho Nen01:32
NapasikWhat is the command for starting a .EXE file ? aMule for instance01:32
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Myrtti/me flashes boobies for reiki01:32
Myrtticome come01:32
aftertafNapasik:  and Exe file???01:32
deFryskthat means I am on the dark side ?01:32
reikithat I don't mind01:32
reiki:)01:32
Myrttidon't be tempted by Breezy01:32
SeveasNapasik, .exe files are for windows01:32
synicdeFrysk: what other kind of groovy voodoo does the new gnome have?01:32
aftertafMyrtti:  hmmmm01:32
NapasikI know01:32
Seveassynic, www.gnome.org/~davyd/01:32
deFrysksynic, evince01:33
NapasikBut I downloaded a file that were for both Windows AND Linux01:33
Seveassynic, www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12 (that one is better)01:33
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GorgonzolaI'm not very experienced with linux, but you can't have a binary file that is compatible with both linux and windows without modification can you?01:34
Fred|Fr3dGorgonzola: no01:34
naliothMyrtti: red-billed or blue-winged?01:34
cosmotrollSeveas, for the MINGID. do i set this to the froup ID of my users?01:34
Napasikso i need a .tar.gz or something ?01:34
GorgonzolaNapasik, if its a windows .exe... you can't run it01:35
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NapasikWeo, found a tar.gz  : )01:35
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cosmotrollSeveas, forget my last comment, i do not have access to the master nis server01:35
Myrttinalioth: I'm lost01:36
reikiactually... this whole experiment of mine is to see if Ubuntu desktop can replace WinXP for "normal" users. Office apps, web browsing, email, listen to CDs, burn CDs, stuff like that. So far so good. today marks 3 weeks on Ubuntu without booting WinXP for anything.01:36
naliothMyrtti: there are blue-winged and red-beaked boobies in the wilds. which variety do you show?01:37
vanbergedid any of you guys ever play that legend of the red dragon game?  it was a terminal game on bbs's01:37
Myrttithe latter I guess01:37
aftertafreiki:  nice one01:37
reikigetting sound working reliably has been a little bumpy and that's a concern. I'm hoping Breezy has that all straightened out. But for the most part I'm determined to stay with default installations for testing. Most users can't compile or modify linux stuff. So things have to work01:38
Myrttiwho needs compiling01:38
Myrttiwhen theres apt01:38
cosmotrollSeaveas, is there other special groups such my users have sufficient or standard acces as the user install?01:38
naliothapt is your friend01:39
reikiMyrtii: true... that's why I want to only test stuff that's available pretty much by default. If we have to apt-get additional things that's fine. Those instructions would be very easy. It just has to work as expected when they do it. And right now it actually does01:39
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aftertafnalioth:  apt is a super cow :D01:40
Myrttireiki: I've compiled only a few times and almost everytime I've gotten only troubles01:40
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Myrtticompiling means you have to have dependencies fixed01:40
aftertaf!tell Napasik about repos01:40
Myrttiand that's really a bummer01:40
reikiMyrtii: same here when I compiled a "new" gimp-print driver to try and get my Epson R200 able to print directly on CD media. I ended up buying the TurboPrint drivers. They're very nice01:41
aftertafOMG... i've just xforwarded synaptic :D01:42
Myrttibecause if some software has to be compiled, it also means that it's so new it hasn't been released as a package. Programmers usually use bleeding-edge versions of everything, so you also have to have everything updated. And THEN that means trouble.01:42
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aftertafwow01:42
Myrttilike my recent mistake of wanting the latest gnubiff01:42
Myrttitho I f***ed that up just putting debian/unstable on sources.list ;-P01:42
MyrttiBIG MISTAKE!01:43
HrdwrBoBhahah01:43
Myrttiaftertaf: congrats01:43
aftertafyeahhhhhhh01:43
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reikiI also have one final hurdle I'm not sure I'm ready for. I need to see if there's a Lightspeed client for linux for accessing a Wang through a lightspeed gateway01:43
reikithat might just not be available01:43
aftertafssh -X me@distant.pc01:44
aftertafhehe01:44
Myrttiwhats that01:44
reikiwhat's what?01:44
BlueEaglethat01:45
osfameronhow can I check what IP address I've been assigned by DHCP ?01:45
Myrttilightspeed01:45
reikiack! time to make a lunch and go to work01:45
Myrttiosfameron: ifconfig01:45
BlueEagleosfameron: ifconfig will show it01:45
osfameronMyrtti, BlueEagle: thanks :-)01:46
osfameroncan I also check what name I'm known under on the network ?01:46
reikiMyrtii: Lightspeed is a client app for accessing a Wang system. We use a lightspeed terminal on WinXP currently. I'm not sure ANYTHING can talk to a Wang without a gateway which means I'll need a similar terminal app in linux to make this work01:46
osfameronhostname just gives me localhost.localdomain when I ask for fqdn01:46
BlueEagleosfameron: hostname dnsdomain name or samba name?01:46
reikigotta run... I'll log back on from work in a bit01:46
Myrttireiki: allright01:46
osfameronBlueEagle: I think dns name.  as in I'd expect okabi.worknetworkname.workname.com01:47
osfameronbut that doesn't ping01:47
BlueEagleosfameron: Well to set that you need to tell your dns that you (the ip) are that machine01:47
NapasikDoh, how do i get the <<asdasd-AT-hotmail.com>> ?01:48
osfameronBlueEagle: ah, I though 'twas magic - on XP I just had okabi.... registered automatically01:48
BlueEagleosfameron: Unless the dns server knows a name for the ip you have got the other machines probably don't know about it either.01:48
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BlueEaglenapasik: Where? What? Why do you want a hotmail.com adress?01:49
NapasikAhh, never mind ;P @@@01:49
Napasik:)01:49
Gorgonzoladoes Evolution have a button to show images in a html email (like thunderbird has) ?01:49
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BlueEagleosfameron: I assume you're not trying to access the microsoft file and printer sharing network then.01:50
cosmotrollwhere can i find a description of the groups listed in the /etc/group file?01:50
BlueEaglecosmotroll: There really aren't any descriptions of them as far as I know. Most of them are self explanatory tbh.01:50
osfameronBlueEagle: well, we do have one of those too... but mainly I'm trying to work out how to scp something from dev linux server to my machine01:52
kemikosfameron:  scp ip:/path/file localfile01:52
kemikor reverse01:52
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cosmotrollBlueEagle: not so clear for me ;-): adm to administrate to computer, in which sense?, dialout? cdrom, floppy?01:53
osfameronkemik: ta, also interested to know how I register my name on the network though :-)01:53
cosmotrolldip? audio?01:53
Carpe_LibertatemIs there anyway I can upgrade to GNOME 2.12?01:53
Carpe_LibertatemUsing apt-get01:53
cosmotrollvideo? lpadmin? scanner, admin?01:54
kemikosfameron:  what sortof network ?01:54
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vladuz976anybody know a good file sharing program?01:55
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osfameronkemik: bah, it's a heterogenous network of Linux, Win, Mac.  I guess I'm best off asking the Systems guys eh? :-)01:55
BlueEaglecosmotroll: adm or admin to be allowed to sudo, cdrom to be able to access (mount) cd-roms and such, dialout to be able to access modem (ie. dial out) floppy to be able to mount floppies, audio to be able to hear sounds, video to be able to access hardware video accelleration.. anything else?01:55
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BlueEaglecosmotroll: Much of this has got to do with group settings in the /dev directory01:55
BlueEaglecosmotroll: Try ls -l /dev01:55
Lunar_LampCould someone suggest to me some alternatives to gnome, that will run well on a system with very low spec (48mb ram, 233 pentium I)01:56
BlueEaglecosmotroll: That will show you that many devices has got particular groups and g+rw attributes set01:56
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BlueEaglelunar_lamp: xfce and icewm01:56
Lunar_Lampthanks BlueEagle - i'll take a look01:56
peterretiefhello all01:57
Carpe_LibertatemAre there any packages to upgrade to GNOME 2.12 out yet for Ubuntu?01:57
wickedpuppyLunar_Lamp, try xfce or fluxbox01:57
BlueEaglefluxbox is also nice, but requires some more setup.01:57
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: breezy will have 2.1201:57
peterretiefI cant seem to find what installs brctl, help help01:57
NapasikGosh, im soooooooooo fed up, cant even get a program to start T_T01:57
Carpe_Libertatemnalioth: I have to wait for Breezy? =P01:58
hypn0will alsa be default in breezy01:58
peterretiefto install brctl01:58
peterretief?01:58
deFryskhyp01:58
Alex_BOpeterretief: can you explain it better?01:59
deFryskhypn0, oss is depreciated in 2.6x kernels01:59
wickedpuppywhast the command to check the gnome version?02:00
cosmotrollBlueEagle: for example, i'm not in the plugdev group but i'm allowed to mount usbkey, but i'm not allow to automount usbkey (such thatit appears automatically on the gnome desktop)02:00
peterretiefAlex_BO: sorry ya, its the bridge controller02:00
hypn0maybe its just my sound card :-)02:00
BlueEaglecosmotroll: Which device is that? in the /dev tree02:01
Alex_BOpeterretief, it's a program, isn't it? and you would like to see what files it has installed02:01
deFryskhypn0, I do know breezy supports more soundcards (newer alsa-version)02:01
BlueEaglecosmotroll: It might be that automount uses groups to determine what is automounted, but that's a feature I'm not familiar with since I haven't used automount much before and never set it up manually.02:02
peterretiefAlex_BO: cant find it with apt-get install or apt-cache search02:02
BlueEaglepeterretief: Which program was that again?02:03
NapasikDo I need VNC to run aMule ?02:03
peterretiefbrctl02:03
Alex_BOpeterretief: have you got an AMD64?02:03
peterretiefintel02:03
Alex_BOpeterretief: if you write $ apt-cache search [program's name] , what does it say? nothing found?02:04
cosmotrollBlueEagle: brw-r-----  1 root plugdev   8,   0 2005-09-08 11:24 sda02:04
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cosmotrollbrw-r-----  1 root plugdev   8,   1 2005-09-08 11:24 sda102:04
peterretiefwant to add an ethernet card to a wireless bridge, like"brctl addif br0 eth1"02:05
peterretiefyes i tried apt-cache search, might be a kernel thing02:06
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Alex_BOi am not a guru of these things... if brctl is a program try to search sources02:06
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BlueEaglecosmotroll: As far as I can see root will be able to read and write it (and mount it read/write) and plugdev members shouls be able to read it and mount it read only. Then again I might be mistaking. :)02:07
AlcoholIs there also a Dutch Ubuntu channel or?02:07
deFryskAlcohol, /j #ubuntu-nl02:07
mattyJdo i need atd, cron, and anacron running? what are all 3 for, dont they do the same thing?02:07
aftertafno route to host .. boo02:07
BlueEaglepeterretief: apt-cache search ebtables02:08
Alex_BOBlueEagle: is it that?02:08
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peterretiefwhats an ebtable?02:09
Alex_BOpeterretief: i have found it02:09
peterretiefAlex_BO: ?02:09
Alex_BOpeterretief: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=brctl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i38602:10
peterretiefMY HERO02:10
Alex_BOsorry all for the posted link, i know that's not correct02:10
Alex_BOthe next time i will post in pv02:10
BlueEaglepeterretief: Either it's ebtables or bridge-utils02:10
Alex_BOpeterretief: :-)02:10
peterretiefBlueEagle: Alex_BO thansk02:11
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Alex_BOpeterretief: no problems.one of the forces of linux is its community02:11
gbyronhey all02:11
dazvidhi gbyron02:12
Alex_BOgbyron: hey boy02:12
Lunar_Lampok, im completely new to linux, and i've just installed fluxbox via synaptic manager, however i see no evidence of anything being any different - do i need to run it somehow? it said all changes had been applied, but it looks, and seems to run, in an identical manner.  what have i not done?02:12
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gbyronLunar_Lamp : look at the version number02:13
CaiN_SAyes Lunar_Lamp02:13
gbyronif it's changed your in the new version02:13
CaiN_SAlogout02:13
CaiN_SAgo to gdm02:13
CaiN_SAand by session02:13
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MuhammadHello02:13
CaiN_SAchoose fluxbox02:13
MuhammadI want to make video tutorials02:13
Lunar_Lampah - CaiN_SA - ofc! thanks a lot! i knew it would be something simple!02:13
Muhammadwhat program shall i use ?02:13
BlueEaglemuhammad: google? :)02:14
CaiN_SAgbyron, reed the Q before answering02:14
MuhammadNo02:14
MuhammadI want it for ubuntu02:14
Muhammadso must be exact program !~02:14
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Frafrahi all02:14
aftertafw000000000t02:14
gbyronanyone know what the deal is with xorg fonts ? how do i get xorg back up and running in breezy02:15
Frafrachecking for X11/XKBlib.h... yes02:15
Frafraconfigure: error: *** cannot find X11 development files02:15
MyrttiFFS02:15
Frafrawhat i should install?02:15
dazvidFrafra: what do you want do ?02:15
Frafradazvid: I'm doing a ./configure02:15
Muhammadanyone ?02:15
Muhammadwhats the progam for video tutorial ?02:15
CaiN_SALunar_Lamp, its a pleasure02:15
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Alex_BOMuhammad: sorry, i don't know of them02:16
Muhammadanybody else ?02:16
Muhammadto make videos ?02:16
BlueEaglemuhammad: http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+recorder+linux02:16
Alex_BOMuhammad: don't incist.try with google02:16
Muhammadhttp://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ -- > not for ubuntu ?02:17
BlueEaglemuhammad: If it works in linux it works in ubuntu.02:18
Muhammadall linux progam works in ubuntu ?02:18
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smlhey02:18
naliothFrafra: install "xlibs-dev"02:19
smlmy breezy kubuntu just froze! how can i check what caused the problem?02:19
BlueEaglemuhammad: Since ubuntu is a linux distribution, all (bar some obscure) linux programs will work in ubuntu linux.02:19
Alex_BOMuhammad: of course02:19
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Frafranalioth: I've installed it, but the error is the same02:19
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naliothFrafra: what exactly is the error (dont paste in here)02:20
BlueEaglemuhammad: http://www.jars.com/multimedia/3D/resource.php/30727 looks usable.02:20
Muhammaddo you guys got the latest news about paypal ?02:21
smlwhat is that?02:21
BlueEaglemuhammad: What latest news?02:21
dazvidwww.paypal.com ?02:21
Muhammadlet me link02:21
aftertaf # paypal?02:21
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Muhammadit's an awful news :(02:21
Frafrahttp://rafb.net/paste/results/6RoJQE10.html02:21
smlwhat?02:22
aftertafthey've been renamed rent-a-friend ??02:22
Muhammadhttp://www.webdtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=35&view=getnewpost -- this is the news !02:22
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Frafranalioth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6RoJQE10.html02:24
smlcan anyone help pinpoint why my system just locked up with breezy?02:24
naliothFrafra: try x-window-system-dev and xlibs-static-dev02:25
Alex_BOsml, can you explain better?02:25
synicsml: on startup?02:25
Muhammaddid you guys read ? that is awful .. isint it ?02:25
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smlno .. i was just using konqueror for half an hour .. all ok ... then BAM ... no movement on pointer. nothing worked.02:25
smlAlex_BO synic ... i am using the kubuntu breezy updates from about 24 hrs ago.02:26
naliothsml: i have the same problem in hoary, what exactly were you doing?02:26
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Alex_BOsml: maybe a bug.try to reboot your computer and signal the bug at Konqueror's developers02:26
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smlnalioth .... just surfing the net .. i dont even think there were any fancy flash pages or anything like that. I had a few tabs open.02:27
naliothsml: hmmm konqueror is suspicious in my book, too (for my lockups)02:28
smlAlex_BO ... I dont have any information to give them though .. are there any logs I can check?02:28
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Muhammadwill these http://linux.softpedia.com/ programs work on ubuntu ?02:28
naliothsml: so much so, i've not been using anything that calls kio_slave02:28
WhiteRabbitwhy would sml reboot just because of knoq?02:28
synicMuhammad: sure02:28
Alex_BOsml: well...i don't have kubuntu, i prefer gnome02:28
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naliothWhiteRabbit: if his system is locked solid, he aint got much choice02:28
synicMuhammad: which one in particular are you looking at?02:29
smlWhiteRabbit ... i had to reboot because everything was frozen/locked02:29
WhiteRabbitso he cant ctrl alt F3 for a console02:29
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naliothAlex_BO: i prefer konqueror as a file mangler02:29
WhiteRabbitnor can he ctrl alt backspace?02:29
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smlnalioth ... what is kio_slave?02:29
naliothsml: it's the backend of KDE (everything kde is tied together with it02:29
BlueEaglemuhammad: Yes, however I would recomend you find .deb or source packages (.tar.gz or .tar.bz2)02:29
WhiteRabbitsynic, chatjunkies ;)~02:29
Alex_BOnalioth, well... i prefer the terminal. the file managers are some problems like these02:29
vuWhats su - root command in ubuntu language?02:29
smlWhiteRabbit .. didn't try another console .. tried the ctrl-alt-bsp02:29
naliothvu sudo02:30
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synicWhiteRabbit: whoa - wait, you're not from undernet?02:30
naliothubotu tell vu about cli02:30
Muhammadwell i am looking for screen recoder programs02:30
WhiteRabbitsynic, I dont belive so02:30
jonodoes anyone know if someone is working on a wine gtk theme?02:30
smlhmmm .. oh well guys ... I might just keep updating and hopefully it goes away.02:30
synicWhiteRabbit: weird.  I know a WhiteRabbit from undernet... even weirder, you still know who I am.02:30
WhiteRabbitsynic, but your from chatjunkies I belive02:30
synicindeed I am02:31
WhiteRabbitsynic, op of #linuxhelp02:31
WhiteRabbit;)~02:31
vunalioth,  Thanks!02:31
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WhiteRabbitso you changed over from debian to ubuntu I see02:31
synicyeah02:31
synicon the workstations anyway02:31
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WhiteRabbitsynic, whats fieldysnuts gonna say about this!02:32
syniclol... I forgot about him02:32
WhiteRabbitcount bass EE even02:32
chombeeHey - just installed the new colony. I have a couple of questions - what will happen if I enable the additional repositories? Are there Breezy versions of universe, multiverse etc already? will updates up to the official release be affected at all if I enable the repositories?02:32
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Muhammad:(02:33
Muhammadno one is helping me :(02:33
WhiteRabbitmust be the name02:34
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DewDudehas anyone built nvu from source?02:34
Alex_BOMuhammad: what's the matter?02:34
endy_xMuhammad, you're logged in as root again?02:34
MuhammadI am switching to windows :(02:34
naliothDewDude: yes i have02:35
naliothMuhammad: dont do that02:35
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DewDudenalioth: so it'll build on ubuntu?02:35
naliothDewDude: yessir, i built it on my ubuntu ppc02:35
DewDudecuz someone told me they weren't able to compile mot things02:35
DewDudeahh02:35
DewDudegot any tips02:35
DewDudei'm also building it for ubuntu ppc02:35
naliothDewDude: i've also built if for clients running ubuntu i38602:35
chombeeMuhammad - what is your trouble?02:36
naliothDewDude: follow the instructions on the homepage of it02:36
DewDudeok02:36
DewDudei mean...i read those...i basically have to edit a config and make02:36
chrissturmi find it always very funny when people in linux channels threaten to switch to windows02:36
DewDudei was just wonderinfg if you had any other tips02:36
DewDudeheh, i could switch to windows02:36
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DewDudehehehehehehehehehe02:36
DewDudealthough, havng to mice on the same mouse pad gets confusing02:37
DewDudetwo02:37
Red_Bullet!xfce402:37
ubotuRed_Bullet: I don't know, could you explain it?02:37
naliothDewDude: get a kvm, lose a monitor, a mouse and a keyboard02:37
nalioth!info xfce402:37
Red_Bullet!xfce02:37
ubotuI guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/02:37
DewDudewell02:37
ubotuxfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB02:37
DewDudefor starters02:37
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Red_Bulletoo yes02:38
Red_Bullet:)02:38
DewDudeit's an imac02:38
DewDudeso02:38
DewDudeKVM would do me no good02:38
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DewDudei don't think they make KVM's for USB devices02:38
naliothDewDude: you could lose the extra mouse/kb (i have an imac also, kvm'd)02:38
vir--any gnome 2.12 package yet?02:38
HoxzerDewDude: what mp3 player you use?02:38
DewDudeHoxzer, the one on my PC02:39
naliothDewDude: yes they do, my kvm is usb/video/audio02:39
DewDudeyeah, but02:39
HoxzerDewDube: and that one is?=02:39
DewDudethe imac lacks an external montior port02:39
DewDudeWinamp02:39
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Hoxzer:E02:39
Hoxzeris there winamp for ubuntu?02:39
DewDudeno02:39
DewDudei have a WinXP machine for music02:39
dazvidHoxzer: the closest thing to it is XMMS02:39
endy_xHoxzer, xmms or beep-media-player02:39
Hoxzer:X sucks02:39
naliothHoxzer: use xmms, it's clone brother02:39
chombeeHoxzer - beep-media-player is essentially Winamp for Ubuntu02:39
DewDudeXMMS is about the same as winamp02:39
Hoxzerdazvid: yeah it looks very much like it02:40
DewDudeeven uses winamp classic skins02:40
dazvidEven the menus are the same02:40
chombeeHoxzer - don't use XMMS, Beep Media Player is just XMMS but nicer looking02:40
DewDudei just found the ALSA support for the audigy2 was crap02:40
Hoxzerok...02:40
naliothwell folks, past my bedtime02:40
dazvidDewDude: nope02:40
dazvidI have an audigy 202:40
dazvidand it works fine02:40
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kaouetehi02:40
naliothDewDude: have fun with nvu02:40
DewDudeit is for what I want02:40
occyI'm trying to follow this guide:   http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414     and it says to install linux headers.02:40
dazvidnalioth: nighty night02:40
endy_xonly problem with beep-media-player is it's slow on loading large playlists.02:40
onkarshindeHoxzer: How are you, how did the resizing in installation go? Did you loose any data?02:40
naliothDewDude: remember: it's a product of linspire02:41
occyhow can I find out what linux-headers I need for my currently running kernel?02:41
DewDudei know02:41
DewDudei'm aware02:41
DewDudei'm still download source02:41
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DewDudeslow-ass DSL :(02:41
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chombeeendy_x personally, I use muine, but I keep bmp for when I just want to play a file that is not part of my music collection02:41
HoxzerOnkar: it got fine expect for some reason windows XP wouldn't start when I made a partion02:41
BlueEagleoccy: synaptic will show you. If you're running the i386 kernel you want the i386 headers iirc02:42
Hoxzerso I installed other XP to new partion02:42
BlueEagleoccy: If you run the i686 kernel you would want the i686 headers02:42
Hoxzerthen the old one worked02:42
DewDudedazvid, i had an audigy 2 under ArchLinux last year....yes, it worked fine...however..i do a lot of audio production, and i do it in DVD-audio quality..and the Linux apps i tried not only didn't do what i wanted..but didn't support 96/2402:42
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BlueEagleoccy: search for header in synaptic.02:42
DewDudehence why i have a windows machine around for audio/music02:42
kaouetei have a problem with totem/gstreamer : i got an image with highly too much luminosity, if i change the output video driver with gstreamer-properties it is ok but the image is not really good02:42
dazvidaaah ok02:42
onkarshindeHoxzer: Your partitioning must have changed partition table for the drive. That's how you got stuck.02:42
Hoxzerand then I just removed new partion wich had windows XP in it and installed ubuntu ot it02:43
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occyheh I got it.02:43
occyI did uname -a02:43
occyand then just looked at the output of apt-get install linux-headers02:43
occyBlueEagle, danke though ;)02:43
Hoxzernkar: but now the problem is that I can't just start windows XP from Grub but I have to start windows XP loader02:43
DewDudenal: huh?02:43
BlueEagleoccy: Well, there you go. Four more seconds of trying before asking would have saved me from opening synaptic and verifying it. :)02:43
Hoxzerand then I have choose wich windows I want to start and I dont even have the other one installed anymore02:44
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BlueEaglehoxzer: Use Windows XP to remove the redundant (or rather useless) entry.02:44
nexus-does anyone know if there's a openssh specific thing that makes a solaris box unable to set locale properly?02:44
onkarshindeHoxzer: Hey that seems to be XP loaders problem.02:45
chombeeHey - Breezy: the current release has GNOME 2.12 but still has Eye of Gnome and apparently no PDF reader installed by default? Is the final release going to get rid of eog too and add Evince to the default? Is it still going to use Gthumb or move to f-spot?02:45
suschman_good morning. does anyone runs amule here on ubuntu ? it does connect but status of files is waiting all the time02:45
BlueEaglehoxzer: It's in the control panel -> system -> advanced tab somwhere.02:45
nexus-when i ssh from windows (using ssh2 client from ssh.com) it works perfectly02:45
BlueEaglenexus-: ssh uses the local locale on the remote system.02:45
onkarshindechombee: And why do you want eog to be removed?02:45
vuAfter the initial reboot after the install I noticed the system could not connect to the repository. Does it mean it is partially installe?02:46
chombeesuschman_ that might just be the peer to peer network itself - you're waiting for a download. P2P sucks now from what I know02:46
vud02:46
nexus-BlueEagle, hmmm okay02:46
nexus-darn if i could get the locale string for windows now02:46
chombeeonkarshinde - I just thought that GNOME 2.12 replaced eog and PDF viewers with Evince02:46
suschman_chombee: hehe, i know. but not half a day now... on windows this stuff worked here quite well02:46
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chombeesuschman_ you ran amule on Windows? amule ios gnutella, right?02:47
suschman_i ran emule there02:47
BlueEaglenexus-: Well, you'll find that in control panel under ehh.. god knows what they call it. It's where you choose languages. How the windows ssh2 client uses it I do not know. I've only used putty from windows.02:47
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LaserLineIf I want to install Ubuntu while keeping my WindowsXP Installation, what do I have to do ? it's 80GB HD, Drive C is Windows, Drive D (was windows) but now it's clear space and Drive E is Windows Swap and temp file drive... So I have an empty space of about 17GB........... Glad for some help02:47
onkarshindechombee: AFAIK, Evince just replaces Ghostview and gpdf02:47
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nexus-i used the GUI to enable eth0, but it is not activated when i boot up02:47
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nexus-do i need to fiddle with some startup scripts?02:48
chombeesuschman_ isn't emule edonkey and amule gnutella? different networks.02:48
suschman_nop, amule is emule ported to gtk/linux02:48
NapasikAnyone have any idea why LimeWire wont start ?02:48
Auriacani'm having problems installing the JDK onto ubuntu02:48
onkarshindevu: You have to enable (uncomment) repositories /etc/apt/sources.list02:48
chombeesuschman_ maybe checkout the ubuntu wiki for filesharing info, I'd look something up for you but my PC is slow right now02:48
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suschman_ok i look there02:49
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chombeeNapasik - run limewire from a terminal and see what error it gives you02:49
BlueEaglelaserline: Choose to manage partitions yourself and create a /home partition of like 5 GB then /boot of 100 mb and the rest for /02:49
nexus-BlueEagle, do you have access to a solaris box? :P02:49
BlueEaglelaserline: You can also use the entire 17 GB for /, but I recomend having atleast a separate /home to maintain user settings.02:49
BlueEaglenexus-: No.02:49
vuonkarshinde,  Man if this is friendly there is no joe or pico or emacs installed and this is a fresh install.02:49
LaserLineBlueEagle, what swap for 1GB ram ?02:50
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buntuso does Ubuntu have gnome 2.12 yet?02:50
chombeesuschman_ Filesharing Peer-to-peer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing?highlight=%28filesharing%2902:50
nexus-BlueEagle, where do i set the locale on ubuntu?02:50
buntuI see Foresight have released 0.9 today that has 2.12 and it rocks!02:50
BlueEaglelaserline: Ahh, yes. You would want swap. I have got a 2GB swap partition but you will easily manage without one if you don't want to set it up.02:50
chombeebuntu - the current development release of Ubuntu Breezy does02:50
onkarshindevu: Use vi02:51
buntuchombee but a stable release?02:51
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sleonhi all02:51
sleon:))02:51
sleoni hear02:51
buntuI don't understand why Foresight have just released a kick ass stable Ubuntu02:51
buntusorry02:51
LaserLineBlueEagle - in the partition manager (ubuntu installation) there are questions of yes andnow, for booting partition - what to choose ?02:51
buntua kick ass stable Gnome 2.12 release02:51
buntuand Ubuntu have to wait a month02:51
buntuwhy are they making us wait? :(02:51
BlueEaglenexus-: It's where you choose languages afaik. However I had trouble changing from the default locale after installing only english. Gave me crap about no_NO.UTF-8 not being found.02:52
nexus-hmm02:52
BlueEaglelaserline: I assume you're setting the bootloader on the MBR so you can choose no on bootable.02:52
nexus-i need to check the locales for solaris02:52
nexus-its probably not compatible with the one set in ubuntu :(02:52
BlueEaglenexus-: type locale02:53
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sleonyear02:53
LaserLineBlueEagle how do i setuo the bootloader on the mbr ?02:53
chombeebuntu - the Ubuntu release cycle has fixed release dates. The official preview release of Breezy should be out in a matter of days, that'll be pretty stable, otherwise use the Hoary release and install GNOME 2.12, it might be in backports02:53
sleongive us gnome 2.1202:53
BlueEaglelaserline: It does so by default.02:53
BlueEagle(it = the installer)02:53
sleongive us well integrated gnome 2.1202:53
sleon:D02:53
onkarshindebuntu: What do you like more? Problems created due to not so tested distro or a stable distro with one month waiting?02:53
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LaserLineLaserLine - so i choose no ?02:53
WhiteRabbitIT Staf would = The Installer Staff02:53
LaserLineBlueEagle - that was meant for you - LoL :-)02:53
buntuchombee I'm actually playing with Foresight right now - it seems really polished. Beagle and hal/udev work a LOT better than they do on my warty box :(02:53
WhiteRabbitsounds rather retarded dont it!..02:54
nexus-$ locale02:54
nexus-LANG=en_AU.UTF-802:54
nexus-LC_CTYPE="C"02:54
nexus-LC_NUMERIC="C"02:54
nexus-LC_TIME="C"02:54
nexus-LC_COLLATE="C"02:54
BlueEaglelaserline: Yes, you do not need to mark your / or /boot partition as bootable.02:54
nexus-LC_MONETARY="C"02:54
nexus-LC_MESSAGES="C"02:54
nexus-LC_ALL=02:54
paulproteus|laptbuntu: foresight?02:54
nexus-ooops02:54
nexus-sorry02:54
LaserLineBlueEagle - when i wiped my laptop02:54
WhiteRabbitjust past us your entire kernel config file why dont cha hehe02:54
buntupaulproteus|lapt yeah foresight - I noticed them on distrowatch today - apparently it's a cutting edge gnome distro02:55
BlueEaglelaserline: That is unless you are going to chainload bootloaders, but if you don't know what that is you're not going to do it yet.. :)02:55
chombeebuntu - that's not surprising, Warty is pretty old. Hopefully the Ubuntu Breezy versions will be just as good02:55
buntuI hope so :(02:55
paulproteus|laptbuntu: Oh, interesting.02:55
DewDude bleh02:55
LaserLineBlueEagle when i wiped my laptop's HD I installed clean ubuntu with no windows, and chose manuelly, I made 2 partitiones - one for '/' and one for 'swap' I chose yes for '/' was that necassery or was a mistake ?02:55
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BlueEaglelaserline: It really does not matter.02:56
chombeeIsn't foresight indeed as a preview of the latest cool stuff, not as a distro you'd actually use?02:56
nexus-does breezy support wpa out of the box?02:56
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LaserLineBlueEagle - there was a reason for the setting, right ?02:56
chombeewhat's wpa?02:56
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onkarshindenexus-: What is wpa?02:56
nexus-wireless protected access02:56
BlueEaglelaserline: However I would recomend using a separate /home partition if you're going to change distros at a later time or need to re-install due to some obscure corruption or big mistake. :)02:57
buntuchombee no clue - works nice though02:57
chombeenexus - I don't know, but I would assume so, wpa is an open standard right?02:57
chombeebuntu - is it a LiveCD or an install?02:58
LaserLineBlueEagle - ok, what happens if I buy another drive, and have one HD for Windows and one for Linux (ubuntu) - the settings are the same ?02:58
buntuchombee install02:58
nexus-chombee, yes02:58
BlueEaglelaserline: It is for chainloading bootloaders. You can have one bootloader on the mbr that loads a bootloader on ie. /dev/hda4 and you can even have that bootloader run a bootloader on /dev/hda5. To have those bootloaders chainloaded you need to have bootable partitions if I remember correctly.02:58
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nexus-linux world tend to get wireless slow slow though :\02:58
chombeebuntu - I'm running GNOME 2.12 on the Breezy dev version right now, it's pretty stable, though it doesn't look like they have all of GNOME 2.12 by default yet02:58
chombeenexus- you could search for it on the web, but I expect it will work. You could probably find out using an Ubuntu livecd to test it02:59
BlueEaglelaserline: You need to setup grub to boot windows. However windows writes to the MBR without asking so you will need to re-install grub on it.02:59
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elvirolohi all02:59
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onkarshindeelvirolo: Hi02:59
Hoxzerhow can I create shortcut to directory02:59
NapasikWhere do I find AUDIO codecs for Totem ?02:59
BlueEaglehoxzer: ln03:00
BlueEaglehoxzer: man ln to see the syntax03:00
LaserLineBlueEagle - I already have windows, so installing ubuntu on it will make an windows value on the MBr >03:00
deFryskNapasik, install totem-xine03:00
Napasikkk,ty03:00
deFryskNapasik, and install w32codecs03:00
chombeeHoxzer - right-click on a folder and choose 'Make Link'. In Linux shortcuts are called Links03:00
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BlueEaglelaserline: Yes, the ubuntu installer automatically detects that windows is already installed and makes an entry for it in the grub boot loader.03:00
nexus-chombee, is there a livecd for breezy?03:01
HoxzerChombee: for some reason I can't create it :E03:01
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grantashman_hey all03:01
weerobbyI thought breezy was not out yet03:01
nexus-chombee, wpasupplicant binaries for debian are broken and i found that out after 3 weeks cracking my head03:01
chombeenexus- yeah there is, find a link to it in a recent distrowatch entry dostrowatch.com03:01
LaserLineBlueEagle - so what i understand - "Don't change the Bootflag Option..."03:01
nexus-so im too lazy to compile wpasupplicant now03:02
chombeeHoxzer - what happens? Do you have right permissions for the folder you are in?03:02
nexus-will wait for breezy and hopefully laptop support will improve03:02
aftertafweird..... i can no longer see the other PC on the same lan :/03:02
grantashman_do any of you guys use XFCE4?03:02
BlueEaglelaserline: Don't cange it unless you know that you need to. If you don't know that you need to do it then you don't need to do it. :)03:02
weerobbynexus hoary seems to have some good loaptop stupport03:02
chombeegrantashman_ I used it once before03:02
aftertafnasty Zin habit, rebooting.... :/03:03
onkarshindenexus-: Which laptop are you using?03:03
LaserLineBleaEagle - That;s 110% right.......03:03
BlueEaglegrantashman_: I've used it a while ago.03:03
nexus-weerobby, doesn't support hibernation and wpa03:03
BlueEaglegrantashman_: Are  you running a poll?03:03
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nexus-onkarshinde, dell inspiron 860003:03
Hoxzerchombee: "make a link" txt is just gray03:03
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grantashman_BlueEagle: No i was looking for some information on configuring the default filemanger/desktop03:03
elviroloi'd like X to start up with a resolution of 1280x960 ... but i can't go higher than 1024x768 ... here's my xorg.cong : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2014 (i use breezy)03:04
BlueEaglegrantashman_: Then why didn't you ask if anyone knew how to configure the default filemanager/desktop in xfce4?03:04
BlueEagle;)03:04
grantashman_shhhh :)03:04
chombeeHoxzer - try right-clicking on the folder you're linking to and looking at the permissions (under properties), do the same with the containing folder, do you have all the permissions for both folders?03:04
elviroloideas anyone?03:05
grantashman_I'm a linux n00b. must say, ubuntu is very nice.03:05
bloodnikHi, I've got my wireless card set up as ra0 -- I installed raconfig and all that -- and it decided today that it wanted to connect to the internet, but I can only use it for HTTP03:05
BlueEaglegrantashman_: I'm not all that new to linux, and I must say that ubuntu is suprisingly well designed.03:05
grantashman_I've been floating around trying out different distros, so far ive used Knoppix but could never keep my install working for more than a week or two.03:06
bloodnikI've had to plug in the ethernet to get IRC working03:06
chombeeelvirolo - maybe re-run the X configuration, anyone remember the command?03:06
wastrelbloodnik, that sounds like a problem with your wireless access point not your system03:06
grantashman_and my wifi would never stay working, had to use Ndiswrapper and change all the init.d scripts. to load it at boot.03:06
LaserLineBlueEagle and if i get a new drive, one for windows and another HD for ubuntu,  and I want to keep 3GB from everydrive alone, so that on the ubuntu drive i'll have windows' swap and on windows drive i'll have ubuntu's swap... - what should I do then ??03:06
elvirolochombee: it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and i already did it :-D03:06
wastrelbloodnik, whose AP are you connecting to?03:06
bloodnikMy own.03:07
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bloodnikEveryone else is using it fine ... in Windows.03:07
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grantashman_BlueEagle: in comparison to Knoppix, i'm surprised at the stability and speed of it. + the community seems terrific.03:07
HoxzerChombee: im owner of the folders03:07
nexus-grantashman_, looks better too :P03:07
chombeeHoxzer - okay youre owner, does owner have write permissions on the folders?03:07
nexus-this is probably the first time i'm using gnome03:07
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wastrelbloodnik, hmm. . :] 03:08
nexus-i usually switch to kde first thing if it was a gnome based distro (e.g. fedora)03:08
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NapasikCan anyone explain to me step by step how to innstall codec? ;o03:08
meta!umount03:08
ubotumeta: No idea03:08
meta!unmount03:08
ubotumeta: I give up, what is it?03:08
wastrelbloodnik, do you have a proxy server for http?  it may be that you aren't getting DNS info from dhcp when you connect wireles so yo ucan't resolve03:08
bloodnikThe card worked when it was just set up to use WEP, but since I installed raconfig and tried to get it using WPA it's been a bugger.03:08
Alex_BONapasik: what kind of codec?03:08
wastrelbloodnik, but the proxy server is working for http03:08
bloodnikyeah it's just a standard router03:09
HoxzerChombee: I was able to create link by root03:09
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grantashman_nexus: Ubuntu + Gnome is very clean. if it wasn't for my rather lowend system i'd most likely convert to it. I'm using XFCE4 right now. with clearlooks.03:09
grantashman_almost copying Gnome ;)03:09
Alex_BONapasik: well...i've just installed ffmpeg03:09
Seveas!forget kaffeine03:09
ubotuSeveas: i forgot kaffeine03:09
BlueEaglelaserline: Well, the trick comes when you install windows on the new harddrive. It will write to the MBR of /dev/hda (or sda for sata and scsi) and you would need to re-install grub manually. As for the setup you just alter your /etc/fstab in linux and set up the partitions needed in windows. I would recomend using something like partition magic in windows for manipulating partitions as it can handle ntfs, vfat and ext* partitions.03:09
chombeeNapasik - look for it on yhe Ubuntu wiki. You are probably better off using MPlayer, Xine or VLC than trying to install codecs for Totem. I've never found Totem worked very well on Ubuntu03:09
Seveas!forget modem03:09
ubotuSeveas: i forgot modem03:09
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metaWhy does linux insist of locking up on scratched DVDs? why can't it just say "ok there is a huge scratch, lets stop trying to read the disk"03:09
grantashman_apt-get install w32codecs?03:09
nexus-grantashman_, ah.. never had the time to fiddle with WMs ;)03:09
Alex_BONapasik: what have you to do?03:09
mik3Seveas03:09
mik3Seveas : are you here Mr. Man?03:09
onkarshindeNapasik: this is for you03:09
Seveasno, this is just my ghost :)03:09
onkarshinde!codecs03:09
ubotumethinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:09
mik3wkaka!03:10
mik3i fixed it03:10
mik3hahahha!03:10
nexus-there is noone on solaris :(03:10
nexus-#solaris that is03:10
mik3you know what the resolution was? changing all http://archive.* addresses to ftp://archive.*03:10
grantashman_nexus: never had time? haha03:10
BlueEaglemeta: That sounds like a designflaw in automount afaik. If you try to mount it manually you can abort with ctrl+c. (just a guess)03:10
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NapasikAlex_BO, cant make my mp3 work ( need code or player ) dl VLC but wont srat03:10
nexus-grantashman_, well sort of :P03:10
NapasikAlex_BO, cant make my mp3 work ( need code or player ) dl VLC but wont start*03:10
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Seveasmik3, :|03:11
onkarshindeNapasik: You need a gstreamer plugin named mikmod03:11
mik3isn't that ridiculous?03:11
chombeeNapasik - you need to install the package gstreamer0.8-plugins to play mp3s03:11
Seveasit is03:11
mik3Zimmerman thinks it's a new bug03:11
onkarshindeNapasik: Read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:11
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buntuonkarshinde mikmod is for mod files not mp3s03:11
grantashman_can anyone tell me is there any speed differences between Hoary and an apt-get update'd' version of Breezy?03:11
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mik3Seveas : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146903:12
chrissturmbreezy is faster03:12
chombeechrissturm - how much faster?03:12
grantashman_noticeby faster?03:12
onkarshindebuntu: Sorry it was gstreamer0.8-mad03:12
rajeevpnNooB to IRC - Have some problems installing ubuntu on an acer laptop. Could someone pl look at my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6291403:12
chrissturmi think it depends on your hardware config03:12
metaHow do I stop hald polling my scratched DVD and let me unmount it?03:12
metaeven a kill -9 as root doesn't work03:13
deFryskchrissturm, not faster then ?03:13
Napasikonkarshinde, how do i accquire them ? command03:13
chombeeSo... napasik... install gstreamer0.8-plugins, that will give you all the plugins for GNOME media programs, including mp3 support03:13
grantashman_I'm running hoary on 700mhz + 128mb ram using XFCE4 without gnome. would you recommend the update?03:13
chombeenapasik - use Synaptic Package Manager to install it03:13
onkarshindeNapasik: Just read this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:13
Napasikoh, okey ty03:14
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mik3anyone here use bitchx? i need to learn how to change my /whois information, like how mine says michael.03:14
chombeeNapasikl - there are various other packages for restricted codecs, find info on the RestrictedFormats page of the Ubuntu wiki, but the one I mentioned will do for mp3.03:15
nexus-how do i add a shortcut in Applications?03:15
chombeenexus- in the Applications menu?03:15
deFrysknexus-, install smeg03:15
nickrudmeta, try killall gam_server03:15
deFryskand use that for it03:15
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nexus-alright03:16
metanickrud - a umount -l and then an eject got it, after it chewed on it for a couple of mins, will prolly lock up again, so I will try gam_sever when it does. heh, ty03:16
nexus-is it in ubuntu repos?03:16
nexus-can't find it03:16
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chombeenexus- I think it's in universe if you're using Hoary. Do you have universe enabled? It's installed by default in Breezy03:17
deFrysk! smeg03:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:17
mik3how do you change user account information?03:18
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BlueEagleHow do I make nautilus use gmplayer instead of totem?03:20
nexus-chombee, i have universe enabled on hoary03:20
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boleHi! I have just installed ubuntu 5.04 but obviously I have missed to set root password. Can anybody help me what do I have to do? Is there any default root password if I have missed to put it?03:20
buntumeta I've been playing with pmount in the foresight 0.9 I downloaded - it works really really nice! It handles pulling mounted media out very well03:20
mik3how do you change user account information?03:20
BlueEaglebole: Use sudo instead of setting the root password and logging in as root03:20
BlueEaglebole: That also got me the 1st time I installed :)03:20
chombeebole - there is no root account in Ubuntu, use sudo with your normal user password03:20
mik3bole: use sudo -s03:20
nickrudBlueEagle, right click a movie, properties, open with03:21
chombeesudo - run a command as root, gksudo run a GUI app as root, append sudo or gksudo to the start of the command03:21
BlueEaglebole: however the sudo scheme makes me stay logged in as root much more seldom and is actually "a good idea"(tm)03:21
bolethanx I'll try to do that03:21
BlueEaglethanks nickrud03:21
deFryskBlueEagle, I think if you rightclick a soundfile , choose properties , you van use the open with tab to set it to another player03:21
nexus-BlueEagle, su -c makes you stay even shorter ;003:21
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nickrudmik3, from the top menu, system->admin->users & groups03:22
nexus-bole, read https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RootSudo03:22
metabuntu - sounds interesting, it's been a problem for a long time now. I have been wanting to try foresight too, looks interesting.03:22
mik3nickrud : and how do you do it without a GUI interface, i.e. where is this information kept, how do you rehash it, etc03:22
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nickrudmik3, usermod from the command line03:23
mik3thanks, that's what i was looking for.03:23
buntumeta they integrated it with hal / dbus / g-v-m so when you insert media or a cd-rom, it pmounts it by default... pmount apparently supports mounting as a user without modifying the fstab03:23
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metabuntu - sounds awesome03:24
BlueEaglenexus-: How is su -c different (in functionality) from sudo?03:24
Red_Bulletplease tell me how to start tv-out on my g-force 403:24
Seveassu needs root password - sudo your own03:24
chombeeBah! With Breezy they've messed with Nautilus again! Now the navigational browser is default, and the spatial browser leaves all the old windows open again, can this be changed?03:24
BlueEaglenexus-: My guess is that it asks for the root password instead of the user password.03:24
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Red_Bulletplease help me03:25
BlueEaglered_bullet: So, you want to view your desktop on your TV, huh?03:25
Red_Bulletyeah03:25
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mik3why doesn't usermod have a flag for changin real name ?03:26
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GNU-GPLright03:26
GNU-GPLi'm in too03:26
Red_BulletBlueEagle,  can you help me03:26
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BlueEaglered_bullet: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add an entry for your TV (type monitor) and an entry for your graphics boards TV-out and a screen that uses the TV with the graphics cards TV out.03:26
mik3Red_Bullet : what's your question03:26
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rajeevpnFolks: am tryin to install ubuntu in Acer laptop and have this problem: When it tries to detect and mount CD-ROM, it says No common CDROM was detected03:26
DVSoftwareBlueEagle: i think that you just confused him more now03:27
BlueEaglered_bullet: I even think nvidia has got some tools for that, but don't quote me on that. :)03:27
Red_BulletBlueEagle,  i can't i try but i broke xorg :((03:27
rajeevpnit's not a CD problem / it's not drive prob - was able to install Debian03:27
nexus-hmm03:27
mik3why doesn't usermod have a flag for changin real name ?03:27
BlueEaglered_bullet: No, you didn't break xorg. You just messed up your xorg.conf. Just copy the backup you made over the xorg.conf you've got now and try again.03:27
Red_Bulletmik3,  my question is how to start tv-out with g-force 403:27
nexus-is there no decent GUI for sftp?03:27
BlueEaglered_bullet: you DID make a backup, didn't you?03:27
synicmik3: have you tried irssi ?  You can set your real name in it.03:28
Red_BulletBlueEagle,  i repair xorg.conf and now i am with X03:28
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rajeevpnsome fora talked about some conflict with SATA and advised change in BIOS and afaik have IDE and BIOS dosen't lemme chg03:28
Truthhey03:28
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Red_Bulletbut i can't edit xorg03:28
BlueEaglered_bullet: Good, then you can google for nvidia linux tv03:28
Truthplease tell the command to install compilers03:28
Red_Bulletplease give me working xorg.conf03:28
synicrajeevpn: what version of ubuntu?  I know warty wouldn't install on my external - nor would any of the livecds work03:28
rajeevpn5.0403:28
synicTruth: why do you need a compiler?03:28
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BlueEagleLinux: Tutorial: NVIDIA TV-out Tiny HOW-TO http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//librenix.com/%3Finode%3D950&ei=jTwgQ6PzCZroQbn-ocUK03:29
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Truthfor eggdrop03:29
rajeevpnon an Acer 4151 NLCi03:29
Truthand things like that03:29
Truthand manyother things03:29
SeveasTruth, eggdrop is in the repositories too03:29
synicTruth: you can install all of those through apt.  You don't need to compile them.03:29
DVSoftwareRed_Bullet: here http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread03:29
GNU-GPLe.g. compiling sources03:29
GNU-GPL:P03:29
Truthk03:29
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h4x0r2damh4x0r:D03:29
synicGNU-GPL: most people don't need to be compiling sources.03:30
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BlueEaglered_bullet: I think you've misuderstood. Linux is an operating system for people that know how to read and think. :)03:30
DVSoftwareBlueEagle: lol, i haven't noticed that you pasted same03:30
GNU-GPLsynic, i know..03:30
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h4x0r2damh4x0rSOMEONE HELP MEH :D03:30
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garnetthello03:30
h4x0r2damh4x0ri just got Ubuntu installed03:30
GNU-GPLh4x0r2damh4x0r, mehehehehehehe03:30
h4x0r2damh4x0rlol03:30
h4x0r2damh4x0rok03:30
h4x0r2damh4x0rim still newb03:30
h4x0r2damh4x0rso i need someone to guide me03:31
garnetthello03:31
GNU-GPLh4x0r2damh4x0r, ok..03:31
garnetth................03:31
h4x0r2damh4x0ruh03:31
h4x0r2damh4x0rk03:31
GNU-GPLhi garnett03:31
h4x0r2damh4x0ri have03:31
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h4x0r2damh4x0ri downloaded WinAmp03:31
garnetthi gnu-gpl03:31
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, it would help if you state your question03:31
h4x0r2damh4x0rbut its a .rpm03:31
BlueEagleactually http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread seems better for you red_bullet03:31
h17m4nthat's not the appropriate saying03:31
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h4x0r2damh4x0rso how do i install it?03:31
Seveasand that you don't use newlines as punctuation03:31
h17m4nALIEN03:31
h17m4n!alien03:31
ubotusomebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/03:31
Seveaswinamp?03:31
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Seveaslinux isn't windows03:31
h4x0r2damh4x0ri know03:32
Seveasditch winamp and use beep-media-player if you want something that looks like winamp and can take winamp skins03:32
h17m4nUbuntu has XMMS, which is like winamp03:32
nexus-winamp sound quality blows though ;)03:32
h4x0r2damh4x0rare you guys bots?03:32
endy_xlol03:32
garnettwriting colour changeing where03:32
h4x0r2damh4x0ryou sound like bots03:32
kemikh4x0r2damh4x0r:  we're not03:32
DVSoftwareh4x0r2damh4x0r: winamp for linux???03:32
h4x0r2damh4x0r>__<03:32
GNU-GPLi didn't know that nullsoft released a linux version03:32
h4x0r2damh4x0rok pwn me03:32
kemikafaik ubotu is the only bot in here03:32
h4x0r2damh4x0ryes there is03:33
endy_xit sucks03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0rits Beta03:33
DVSoftwarei know that only some crappy winamp3 alpha03:33
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GNU-GPLgive me a dl link03:33
DVSoftwarenot even beta03:33
GNU-GPL;)03:33
DVSoftwarewas "released"03:33
garnettgnu03:33
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r,  don't use newlines as punctuation03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0roh.03:33
DVSoftwareand it works like shit03:33
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garnett whatwriting colour03:33
Hoxzer:D03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0r____03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0r:D03:33
Hoxzer,....03:33
GNU-GPLcut it out!03:33
garnettgnu03:33
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Hoxzertell me babe03:33
GNU-GPL:)03:33
kaptainkhow can i mount an ext3 partition through the console?03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0rok03:33
synich4x0r2damh4x0r: apt-get install beep-media-player03:33
h4x0r2damh4x0rhow do i get themes?03:33
Hoxzercan somebody advice me with UBCD03:34
Seveaskaptaink, mount -t ext3 /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint03:34
synicand you can download themes for beep from winamp.com03:34
garnettgnu join # room03:34
kaptainkwith all permissions?03:34
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, you can use winamp themes...03:34
GNU-GPLkaptaink, yes03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rapt-get install beep-media-player03:34
GNU-GPL(default)03:34
endy_xh4x0r2damh4x0r, winamp 2.x theme03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rReading package lists... Done03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rBuilding dependency tree... Done03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rE: Couldn't find package beep-media-player03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rh4x0r@cm93:~$03:34
h4x0r2damh4x0rh4x0r@cm93:~$03:34
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SeveasNEVER PASTE IN HERE03:34
kaptainkthankyou03:34
BlueEagle!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r repos03:35
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BlueEagleinvalid target?03:35
GNU-GPLc/p is lame03:35
BlueEagle!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r repositories03:35
freediod!tell03:35
emiliospanishbuenas a todos03:35
BlueEagle!tell03:35
DVSoftware!repositories03:35
uboturepositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:35
Seveasdon't play with the bot!03:35
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BlueEaglethankyou dvsoftware :)03:35
DVSoftwareNo problem03:35
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Hoxzer:E03:36
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DVSoftwareBlueEagle: !tell nick about something03:36
garnetthey gnu03:36
garnetthey gnu03:36
garnetthey gnu03:36
garnetthey gnu03:36
garnetthey gnu03:36
grantashman_...03:36
BlueEagledvsoftware: ahh, ofcourse. I forgot about. :)03:36
freediod!tell me about cc03:36
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BlueEagle!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about repositories03:36
h17m4nh4x0r2damh4x0r: paste in #flood, and refer to it from here.... people willing to help will look at it and help you from here03:36
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h17m4nhmmm I'm a noob03:37
h17m4nbut I'll get winex installed03:37
h17m4nto play AoE 3 :)03:37
h17m4ndemo that is03:37
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mik3=D03:38
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[A] ndy80hi03:38
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mik3hi03:38
WhiteRabbithallo03:38
WhiteRabbitI need a medic03:38
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[A] ndy80I'm reading this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is it available for Ubuntu Breezy too?03:38
mik3the only medical assistance we supply is atrapene/tupan chloride03:39
garnettwhite rabbit hi03:39
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Seveas[A] ndy80, which part of that are you refering to?03:39
HoxzerTell me some software that can resize partions?03:39
garnetthi03:39
garnetthoxzer03:39
mik3Hoxzer : qtparted03:39
Hoxzer:E damn it I use ubuntu Install CD soon03:39
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[A] ndy80Seveas: in particular the repository urls03:39
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, ext3 reiserfs LVM etc..?03:39
SeveasHoxzer, fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, qparted, gparted, parted, partition magic....03:40
Hoxzerdoes UBCD has those?03:40
Seveas[A] ndy80, you can use them on breezy...03:40
h17m4nUbuntu needs a better partitioner for the installation. The one that comes with it is not the easiest one...03:40
[A] ndy80Seveas: thanks03:40
nexus-ubuntu needs something like anaconda at least ;)03:40
WhiteRabbitits mad easy if you allow it to be03:40
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mik3h17m4n : i doubt ubuntu wants to COMPLETELY eliminate the thought process.03:40
WhiteRabbityour just used to something else is all03:40
Seveasnexus-, thank god that they don't use that crud03:40
BlueEagleh17m4n: It's pretty identical to windows XPs partitioning tool isn't it?03:40
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h4x0rr:D03:41
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nexus-Seveas,  its a pita to install loads of unwanted packages though03:41
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h4x0rrso can anyone tell me how to install the player?03:41
h4x0rri can03:41
BlueEagles/identical/similar/03:41
h17m4nnot to me03:41
h4x0rri can't play mp3 files03:41
Seveash4x0rr, don't evade bans03:41
Seveas!mp303:41
ubotu[mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:41
h4x0rrok sorry03:41
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WhiteRabbityou named is beyond yourself I see03:41
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BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Good call. :)03:42
h17m4nit doesn't have like a walk through that allows you to create a new partition.... the only choice you have for walking thru is to format the whole drive...03:42
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WhiteRabbitthe partitioner will allow pretty much what any linux partitioner would03:42
WhiteRabbitits robust03:42
garnetthiiii03:42
h4x0r2damh4x0r:03:43
h17m4nyeah but noobs would get stuck on it03:43
garnetthow are you03:43
h4x0r2damh4x0rhow do i get the player you guys told me about earlier on?03:43
WhiteRabbitif it scares ya just use cfdisk03:43
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, enable universe03:43
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Quinthiush17m4n: believem e the partitioner is MUCH more n00b-friendly than fdisk...03:43
Seveas!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about repositories03:43
h17m4nI think that the biggest reason joesixpacks dont move to linux is because it's not that easy to install03:43
WhiteRabbityou must allow the multiverse to touch your system03:43
Seveash17m4n, that's not true03:43
SeveasUbuntu is dead-easy to install03:44
h4x0r2damh4x0rcool03:44
h17m4nit was03:44
Auriacanhas anyone here sucessfuly installed JDK on ubuntu??03:44
WhiteRabbitso easy even a dead man could do it03:44
Seveasthe ubuntu partitioner is no harder than the windows one03:44
Seveasand for Breezy it has even been improved...03:44
h17m4nafter I booted to windows, partitioned with PM and installed it03:44
BlueEagleh17m4n: Actually, this happened to me when guiding two noobs trough the install. I was typing down like five lines on how to partition, and just as I pressed enter they wrote to me: "Ok, I've made a /boot 100 mb, /home 15GB and a / partition. Is that OK?" and I really could not disagree.03:44
Hoxzerstrange... :E03:44
WhiteRabbitAuriacan, just install to opt then link it up & make a link to your browser plugin factory03:44
BlueEagleh17m4n: Well, actually the one only made a 10GB home, but that's not really the point.03:45
WhiteRabbityou dont need the /boot unless your on a old mb03:45
h4x0r2damh4x0rlol03:45
Hoxzerim trying to resize partion but seems like ubuntu install CD could not regonsize how much space I have left03:45
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h4x0r2damh4x0ri guess Linux isn't for me03:45
h4x0r2damh4x0rthanks anyway03:45
h4x0r2damh4x0rbye guys03:45
mik3linux is incredibly easy to install h17m4n03:45
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, Come on now03:45
Auriacanlink it up?03:45
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QuinthiusWhiteRabbit: or using lvm..03:45
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WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, are you really that easy to give up03:45
mik3i associate the ease of ubuntu more than windows 2k03:45
=== GNU-GPL wonders why so many people dislikes the linux partitioning way.. it's NOT difficult
h4x0r2damh4x0ri've been trying since 1003:45
h17m4nI didn't even know what partitions it needed in order to install03:45
QuinthiusWhiteRabbit: or raid, most likely03:45
h4x0r2damh4x0rand nows its 9:4303:45
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Actually it's a good idea to have a separate /boot if you are trying out several distros. That way you've got all your kernels in one place.03:45
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WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, you know you wanna learn this stuff stay with us keep trying03:46
h17m4nso I just made 1 ext3 and installed it there03:46
h4x0r2damh4x0ri wanna install themes,03:46
boleok guys I'm still confused with this SUDO stuff. How do I use it? I have installed ubuntu and now I want to run Add/Remove programs and it asks me for a root password. What do I do then?03:46
h17m4nafter 3 days I saw that swap was eating away the ram03:46
h4x0r2damh4x0rplay window games03:46
h4x0r2damh4x0rplay MP303:46
h4x0r2damh4x0r:/03:46
chombeebole - enter your normal password03:46
GNU-GPLbole, enter the pass03:46
GNU-GPL:)03:46
h17m4nand someone here told me to make a swap file/partition... then I found out I needed it03:46
WhiteRabbiteveryone has a idea of partitioning ;)~03:46
Quinthiusbole: type in your password, not root's...03:47
BlueEagleh17m4n: You don't need more than one / partition, however I recomend having a /boot and a /home aswell. If you ever want to try a different distro you can use the same kernel (in all but a few cases) and you keep user settings.03:47
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, first off think about it like this03:47
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WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, for 2 weeks your not gonna do a whole lot of what you want until you learn the system basics03:47
h17m4nif you don't read a how to or a linux article before installing it, it's not so easy03:47
WhiteRabbitgive it 2 solid weeks of learning & playing then install the games03:47
WhiteRabbityou can play mp3's right now with a slight of hand03:47
WhiteRabbit!mp303:48
ubotump3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:48
AuriacanWhiteRabbit, mind giving me an explination of "link it up"?03:48
boleI have done that but it says "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"03:48
h4x0r2damh4x0rwhiterabbit03:48
h4x0r2damh4x0ri don't know how03:48
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h17m4nBlueEagle: What is the boot one for?03:48
garnetthi03:48
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h17m4nhi03:48
DVSoftware!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about mp303:48
Sebischnhi03:48
garnetthi03:48
BlueEagleh17m4n: That will keep your kernel safe (if and when you roll your own) between distro installations.03:48
garnettsebischn how are you03:49
nlogaxWhiteRabbit I'd love to do the LPI exams!  tell us more03:49
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h4x0r2damh4x0ryay03:49
h4x0r2damh4x0rokay tell me now03:49
Sebischnis garnett a bot ? :D03:49
garnettsktr03:49
SebischnI'm fine, how about you ?03:50
h17m4nBlueEagle: and could be just 100 megs? It'd be better having it before the ext3 one right?03:50
GNU-GPLSebischn, why do you think that??03:50
Sebischno003:50
boleso what do I do now?03:50
BlueEagleh4x0r2damh4x0r: By now you have got to have noticed the url: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and I really hope you have figured out that mp3 is such a restricted format.03:50
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mastertetHi all03:50
GNU-GPLbole, i don't know what you know and what not :P03:50
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garnetthi03:50
mastertetsome of you have tried breezy?03:50
moomooboyhey can someone teach me how to use prozilla03:50
h4x0r2damh4x0rsomeone03:50
WhiteRabbitnlogax, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/201.html?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=LPIGR&ca=dgr-lnxw07LPI03:50
h4x0r2damh4x0rI went there03:51
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, have you added any extra repos just yet03:51
h4x0r2damh4x0rso i can't play MP3s?03:51
BlueEagleh17m4n: 100 mb is plenty. It doesn't matter where it is unless you are using old hardware. I always put /boot on /dev/sda1 (hd0,0)03:51
boleI have put my normal pass and I got error msg: "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"03:51
garnetthello03:51
GNU-GPLh4x0r2damh4x0r, check the unofficial ubuntuguide03:51
GNU-GPLit's all there03:51
GNU-GPL;)03:51
h4x0r2damh4x0ri think i did03:51
BlueEagleh4x0r2damh4x0r: You can if you read the god damned url that everyone is pasting to you and follow the instructions there!!!!03:51
Seveas!ubuntuguide03:51
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.03:51
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SeveasGNU-GPL, ^--03:51
h4x0r2damh4x0r..03:51
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garnetthi03:51
SebischnI've installed python 2.4.1 and tried to run IDLE. But the shell is putting out this error message : ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **. How can I solve this problem ?03:51
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, omg READ dude03:51
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BlueEaglebye garnett03:51
=== mode/#ubuntu [+b %garnett!*@*] by Seveas
Seveasgarnett, fuckoff03:52
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Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, we sent you the url to the howto 5 times now03:52
Seveasread it!03:52
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h17m4nBlueEalge: Thx I will look forward to creating one later. Thocere's some command that will move the kernell and there and mount it right?03:52
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GNU-GPLSeveas, i didn't know that u-bu-ntug-uide (otherwise the bot reacts again) was that bad03:53
mastertetCan someone tell me if there is improvments in speed area in Breezy (boottime, snapier desktop, ...)???03:53
SebischnI think someone knows what this fricking problem is about :D03:53
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, is now on the ubuntuguide program for the next 2 weeks then he will be reinstalling with some know how lol03:53
SeveasGNU-GPL, the bot only reacts on things prefixed with a ! or its nickname03:53
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BlueEagleh17m4n: Well, move what's in /boot now to ie. /boot.bacup and mount the new partition to /boot and move the stuff back.03:53
h17m4nBlueEagle: cool thanks03:54
Kvarki got a problem, gnome-terminal is driving me mad by closing itself when i open it with the --execute flag03:54
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aehoWhen I want to03:54
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BlueEagleh17m4n: Also remember to setup your /etc/fstab and your /boot/grub.conf and run grub to update the bootloader with the new location of the bootloader files.03:54
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neri_how can i change the permission of a folder?03:54
aftertafhow do i setup /etc/networking/interfaces to have 2 different ip addresses on different subnets?03:54
h17m4nI'm downloading Suse right now.... 4.1 gig DVD iso on a 256K connection :-[03:54
GNU-GPLneri_, with chmod03:54
aehoWhen I want to copy an audio-cd with k3b, do I use "normal copy" or "clone copy" in cd-copy settings03:54
Kvarkit even closes itself when i do "gnome-terminal --execute read"03:54
aeho?03:55
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mastertetjoin #ubuntu-fr03:55
mastertetoups03:55
Seveasaftertaf, on one interface or two?03:55
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GNU-GPLmastertet, bonjour03:55
mastertetAllo03:55
aftertafSeveas:  sorry.. on one interface (i've put eth0 on static)03:55
WhiteRabbitnlogax, you like?03:56
Seveasaftertaf, create a new interface witht the name eth0:103:56
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aftertafok. just like i did on eth0? then ifup eth0:1 to start it?03:56
Seveasaftertaf, indeed03:56
aftertafby god i'm learning03:57
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aftertaf:) Seveas03:57
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aftertafit worked :D03:58
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nlogaxWhiteRabbit Tx a lot mate!  I'm gonna dive right in there03:58
bloodnikwhere's the suggested sources.list please?03:58
Hoxzer^how do I install qparted in ubnuntu?03:58
brenner!repos03:58
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:58
neri_i can use the chmod commands without problems in another folders but in a particular folder the permissions remain constant03:59
WhiteRabbitnlogax, it'll get ya goin thats for sure03:59
aftertafi've given it a gateway with eth0's ip address....., that way i can add my to the eth0:1 subnet and be off the corporate LAN...03:59
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WhiteRabbitnlogax, that is if your wanting to get to the goin that is ;)~03:59
bloodnikta03:59
WhiteRabbitda03:59
brennerHoxzer: enable universe repo, install qtparted package03:59
aftertafdo i need to do more to set it up as a router??03:59
GNU-GPLneri_, i think that the owner of this directory is someone else03:59
aftertafrouter / NAT03:59
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Seveasenable ip forwarding03:59
GNU-GPL(e.g. root)03:59
aftertafok...04:00
neri_im in a root terminal but it doesnt work04:00
Auriacanok, i seem to be deficient, because i can't seem to "link up" java04:00
aftertafcheers... but i did right with the gateway setting being eth0's IP ?04:00
Hoxzer^Brenner: I can't still find it :E04:00
Hoxzer^with synapic04:00
Hoxzer^whats the package name04:01
Seveasaftertaf, yeah04:01
WhiteRabbitaftertaf, you might wanna add some tweaks to the sysctl.conf04:01
brennerHoxzer^: qtparted04:01
aftertafgoddamn :D04:01
Seveasaftertaf, www.ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/start_nat04:01
Hoxzer^hmm...04:01
WhiteRabbitto lock it down even more secure04:01
Hoxzer^is it for amd64 version?04:01
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Kvarkplease help me get gnome-terminal to stay open when the --execute flag is used04:01
Hoxzer^fount it04:01
aftertafcheers Seveas ... i AM leaving newbieland at a good rate here ;)04:01
BlueEagleWell I'm off to work. Have a good one.04:02
WhiteRabbitaftertaf,  Sysctl.conf hardening -- http://www.eth0.us/sysctl  heres a example guide04:02
sosukeinukawahi, i'm a noob04:02
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WhiteRabbitsosukeinukawa, we know!04:02
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GNU-GPLneri_, is it a system directory or a directory inside a home dir04:02
BlueEagleh4x0r2damh4x0r: All you need is to install a few packages to get mp3 working, but I hope you've figured out that much by now. :)04:02
sosukeinukawadual boot system on powerbook04:02
GNU-GPLif it's a system dir.. don't tinker with it!04:02
h4x0r2damh4x0rwhat are the package04:02
h4x0r2damh4x0r:/04:02
sosukeinukawacan't make osx default04:02
WhiteRabbitOSX/Ubuntu?04:02
sosukeinukawayep04:02
aftertafcheers WhiteRabbit & Seveas ... i'm done for the day but i'll check that first thing 8am Paris time ;)04:02
neri_it a mounted unit04:03
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, did you add those repos yet & updated the apt cache?04:03
brennersosukeinukawa: open up /boot/grub/menu.lst04:03
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, sudo apt-get install xmms04:03
h4x0r2damh4x0ryes04:03
WhiteRabbitthen install xmms04:03
brennersosukeinukawa: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:03
GNU-GPLneri_, you could use ls -al to see what the owner/group is of the directory04:03
neri_when i try to change the permissions always says "only read file system"04:03
aftertafthx again....... & byee04:03
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GNU-GPLneri_, ok.. is it NTFS?04:04
neri_yes04:04
GNU-GPLright..04:04
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sosukeinukawaok, then04:04
GNU-GPLwell there's the problem. By default the NTFS support is read-only (on the kernels in ubuntu)04:04
DVSoftwareGNU-GPL: ntfs write is unsafe04:05
neri_how do i change that04:05
WhiteRabbitsafest way to transfer data is via a fat3204:05
GNU-GPLthere is experimental write support aviable.. but better not use it04:05
Sebischn** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** <-- Whats that about. I've installed python2.4-tk,does someone know, how to fix this problem?04:05
Hoxzer^ok, now that I installed qtparted how do I  resize my partition04:05
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WhiteRabbitcan you make a spare 5 gig fat32 to transfer the data back n forth04:05
GNU-GPLDVSoftware, i know.. ;-)04:05
h4x0r2damh4x0rBLAQELARL04:05
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Kvarkhow do I make a script display the output in a gnome-terminal window?04:06
DVSoftware:)04:06
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Hoxzer^for some reason I can't resize it ;/ the text is gray04:06
GNU-GPL:)04:06
WhiteRabbitKvark, -vv04:06
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SeveasSebischn, did you install the idle-python2.4 package?04:06
h4x0r2damh4x0rslap your mum04:06
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud04:06
SebischnSeveas : yes, I did04:06
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DVSoftwareLaughing out loud04:06
LaserLineDVSoftware - Hey :)04:06
GNU-GPLhmm she slaps back04:06
neri_as a root i can access the partition, why it will be a proble to access it being a user?04:06
SeveasGNU-GPL, .....04:06
DVSoftwareLaserLine: hey04:06
h4x0r2damh4x0rlol04:06
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sosukeinukawawhat do i do after i open up /boot/grub/menu.lst ?04:06
KvarkWhiteRabbit: if the script should choose wheter or not to open a terminal window to display output in?04:07
WhiteRabbitOur chilie is so good it'll make ya wanna SLAP your momma!04:07
GNU-GPLSeveas, .....04:07
Auriacancan i please get some help here?04:07
Seveasneri_, it will not if you mount it correctly04:07
h4x0r2damh4x0rk done04:07
Emoshi all... i just have the ubuntu cd arrive to me today... i am going to install it... but i wanna comform some thing can any 1 help me...... will it support Intel LGA 775 P4 Ht computer ?04:07
h4x0r2damh4x0ri hope its working now04:07
WhiteRabbitKvark, pop a console & run the cmd with blahblah -vv04:07
brennersosukeinukawa: you need to change the line with 'default'04:07
SeveasEmos, yes it will04:07
SebischnI really don't know, what's that all about :(04:07
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WhiteRabbitverbose is what your after Kvark04:07
Hoxzer^do I need unmount HDD if I resize it?04:07
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Quinthiusneri_:  try doing ls -ld on the main filesystem you're trying to access (like ls -ld /boot or /home or whatever)04:07
SeveasSebischn, what does python -V tell you?04:08
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SeveasHoxzer, yes04:08
brennerHoxzer: irc, yes04:08
brenner*iirc04:08
sosukeinukawacan i add a line that says defaultos=macosx, i don't have any lines listed04:08
h4x0r2damh4x0rSudo neutrial04:08
KvarkWhiteRabbit: the script is for the right click menu in nautilus so it's not meant to be started from inside a terminal04:08
h4x0r2damh4x0rforgot wtf was that04:08
SebischnSeveas : I tells me : Python 2.4.104:08
Emosdo i need to do anything... when the cd reach me... must i send a msg to ubuntu to tell that i have recieve the cds ?04:08
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WhiteRabbitKvark, debug it that way you can watch the output in verbose ;)~04:08
DVSoftwareEmos: nope04:08
brennersosukeinukawa: should be right at the top: "default <num?"04:08
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brennersosukeinukawa: and no, you can't do what you just said. :)04:09
KvarkWhiteRabbit: how do i debug it?04:09
WhiteRabbitKvark, this is were the ride stops for a few mins!04:09
brennerEmos: no, don't bug them. :)04:09
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sosukeinukawanope, i've got nothing in the file menu.lst, i opened it in gedit and nano just to be sure04:10
Auriacancan someone please instruct me on "linking up" JDK?04:10
KvarkWhiteRabbit: ok, thanks for the hint about a direction to try04:10
h4x0r2damh4x0rWTF04:10
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h4x0r2damh4x0rstill doesn't workw04:10
Hoxzer^:E04:10
Hoxzer^strange04:10
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brennersosukeinukawa: nothing at all>04:10
sosukeinukawanothing04:10
Amaranthi hate wireless networks04:10
brenner?04:10
h4x0r2damh4x0ris there a player for it?04:10
WhiteRabbitAuriacan, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable04:10
h4x0r2damh4x0rSOMEONE PLEASE04:10
h4x0r2damh4x0rim dying04:10
SeveasWhiteRabbit, bad instructions there04:11
SeveasAuriacan, gran a java .deb file from hoary-extras or from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:11
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad04:11
Emosi have both EM64t and intel x86 cds... how i know if which support all my system ? and will the EM64T version be more powerful and faster ?04:11
Hoxzer^.....hmmm04:11
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SebischnSeveas : You propaply know were the error points to ?04:11
KvarkSeveas: what would good instructions be?04:11
Hoxzer^can somebody help me to unmount hdd?04:11
Hoxzer^:E it says device is busy but I have nonthing using it04:12
SeveasHoxzer, umount /dev/harddrive04:12
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, your still riding a bike with to many cc's it's ok to ride it just don't squeeze the trottle so hard just yet til your used to it ;D04:12
brennersosukeinukawa: you've opened up the wrong file then04:12
SeveasKvark, i gave them :)04:12
h4x0r2damh4x0rITS DONE04:12
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Hoxzer^root@dhcppc0:/mnt # umount /dev/hdb104:12
Hoxzer^umount: /mnt/share: device is busy04:12
sosukeinukawait told me it was a new file04:12
SeveasSebischn, I just tried installing idle myself, works out of the box :|04:12
h17m4ndamn04:12
SeveasHoxzer, lsof /mnt/share04:12
h17m4nI spilled coffee on my laptop04:12
WhiteRabbitAuriacan, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1504:12
h17m4nlucky it wasn't a lot, and not on the keyboard04:13
WhiteRabbith17m4n, if you was at Mc'Ds when it happen I belive you can sue!!!04:13
brennersosukeinukawa: what'd you type in the terminal? (exactly)04:13
SebischnSeveas : Confusing, I'm really starting to get crazy with this IDLE stuff04:13
Hoxzer^seveas: and?04:13
h4x0r2damh4x0rLOL04:13
h4x0r2damh4x0rIT PLAYED04:13
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, What else do you need to keep you in linux today?04:13
sosukeinukawasudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:13
SeveasHoxzer, what does that tell>04:13
Seveas?04:13
GNU-GPLh17m4n, well i hope the coffee was tasty ;-)04:13
Hoxzer^COMMAND    PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME04:13
Hoxzer^gam_serve 7712 niko   47r   DIR   3,65 8192   37 /mnt/share/DC share04:13
h17m4nWhiteRabbit: Hehe guess I should've been there04:13
h4x0r2damh4x0rthanks guys04:13
Emosi have both EM64t and intel x86 cds... how i know if which support all my system ? and will the EM64T version be more powerful and faster ?04:13
SeveasHoxzer, pkill -9 gam_server04:13
h17m4nit was just under to the side of the touchpad04:14
Hoxzer^Seveas: thx04:14
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h17m4ncleaned up with paper tower04:14
sosukeinukawamaybe i'm wrong, is there something i can do to /etc/yaboot.conf ?04:14
h4x0r2damh4x0rhm04:14
brennersosukeinukawa: that's weird....if that file isn't there, you wouldn't have been able to use grub04:14
h4x0r2damh4x0rThemes04:15
h4x0r2damh4x0rand a better player is there is?04:15
Seveas!themes04:15
h4x0r2damh4x0rsomething similar to winamp will do04:15
ubotuthemes is probably at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com04:15
brennersosukeinukawa: no, it's menu.lst you want04:15
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WhiteRabbitEmos, unless the program was souped up with EM64t support it want add any power factor of WOW this is a better CPU bla blah to it04:15
brennersosukeinukawa: 'locate menu.lst'04:15
h4x0r2damh4x0rWhiteRabbit?04:15
DVSoftwareh4x0r2damh4x0r: beep-media-player, xmms, amarok, juk, errrmmm.... can't remember04:15
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Seveasvlc totem mplayer04:16
WhiteRabbitEmos, the system would be more responsive if it was compipled with emt64 though but the software thats another story04:16
Seveasmpg32104:16
h4x0r2damh4x0rhow?04:16
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, ?04:16
h4x0r2damh4x0rhow?04:16
Auriacanthanx04:16
DVSoftwareh4x0r2damh4x0r: synaptic04:16
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, xmms has more options than beep04:16
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h4x0r2damh4x0rhow do i get beep mediaplayer ?04:16
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h4x0r2damh4x0rxmms04:16
h4x0r2damh4x0rk04:16
sosukeinukawawhat directory should i be in when i  "locate menu.lst" ?04:16
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, amarok I like that04:16
brennerWhiteRabbit: it does?04:16
eva-02there a terminal command like ipconfig in xp?04:16
brennerifconfig04:16
eva-02just need to display my local ip04:16
WhiteRabbitbrenner, yes04:16
EmosWhiteRabbit do that mean if i have a computer that support 64bit it is better performance for the os ?04:16
eva-02brenner: ty04:17
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Hoxzer^....strange04:17
Hoxzer^for some reason I cannot still resize the partition :E04:17
Hoxzer^ntsf04:17
brennersosukeinukawa: any...doesn't matter04:17
WhiteRabbitEmos, well of course a 64bit OS that was compiled for a 64bit cpu is goin to be better than a 32bit os compiled for a 32bit OS04:17
Hoxzer^and qtparted04:17
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Truthrg04:17
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DVSoftwareWhiteRabbit: you mean for 32bit cpu04:18
WhiteRabbitEmos, but the software your gonna wanna use that you get from extras etc must be of 64bit compiles to have that difference in speed your after04:18
sosukeinukawajust gives me another command prompt04:18
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Hoxzer^its not even mounted :D04:18
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, no I meant 32bit os ;D04:18
DVSoftware32bit os compiled for a 32bit OS04:18
DVSoftwareread what you've said04:18
WhiteRabbitEmos, in some deals the 32bit software runs slower on a 64bit CPU than it should04:18
sosukeinukawaam i screwed?04:19
WhiteRabbitEmos, theres alota work still for the 64bit land but if your game to learn & go at it Go 64bit04:19
Hoxzer^are you guys sure qtparted can resize ntsf partitions?04:19
Hoxzer^:E04:19
Seveasntfsresize can04:19
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, Now do you see why I did that04:19
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, it made you read it more than once!04:19
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud04:19
WhiteRabbitI call it sticky IRCing lol04:20
WhiteRabbitsticks to the brian to make you read it04:20
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brennersosukeinukawa: how the heck did you  even boot into an OS if you don't have grub configged? :-/04:20
LaserLineWhat kernel for AthlonXP 2700+ ???  686 or K7 ??04:20
h4x0r2damh4x0rSTFUKTHX04:20
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GNU-GPLh4x0r2damh4x0r, LANGUAGE!04:20
EmosWhiteRabbit do u mean that all the things that install from the ubuntu 64bit cd is all 100% support 64bit technology04:20
brennersosukeinukawa: that meant it couldn't find the file04:20
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brennersosukeinukawa: are you using a little 'L'? or a '1'?04:20
WhiteRabbith4x0r2damh4x0r, duder wtfever j00 don't wan't the M3n to rebuild your fallen egg sh311s04:20
sosukeinukawabrenner, would yaboot do it? because i boot into it everyday.04:21
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WhiteRabbitEmos, I cant go that far to say yes but I would like to think so04:21
sosukeinukawabrenner, little L04:21
WhiteRabbitas Im currently 32bit here myself04:21
Hoxzer^seveas: is that linux software or?04:21
AuriacanSeveas, there seems to be a password required for downloading from your site04:21
brennersosukeinukawa: and you're running ubuntu, not OSX?04:22
h4x0r2damh4x0rsftnt04:22
h4x0r2damh4x0rsifnt04:22
h4x0r2damh4x0r:D04:22
Seveash4x0r2damh4x0r, cut it out04:22
sosukeinukawabrenner, yep ubuntu04:22
h4x0r2damh4x0raiight04:22
SeveasAuriacan, msg me a user/pass you like04:22
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h17m4nI hope that no coffee got to the hardware.... Now I see the reason why my IBM laptop las a cover under the keyboard and all over the hardware.04:22
LaserLineHey guys - I have a Question about AthlonXP 2700+ and kernels - K7 or 686 ?04:22
h17m4nhas*04:22
h17m4nThis gateway doesnt04:23
WhiteRabbitSeveas, he just got happy from being in linux while listening to his liberachi mp3's thats all04:23
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brennersosukeinukawa: weird04:23
brennersosukeinukawa: you are using grub are you not?04:23
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WhiteRabbitghost04:24
tswIs there a net installer for ubuntu (like there is for debian?)04:24
WhiteRabbittsw, cd 1!04:24
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Hoxzer^seveas: is ntfsresize linux software or boot software?04:24
tswWhiteRabbit: its still >500megs04:24
Seveaslinux04:24
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WhiteRabbittsw, what you want it on a credit card business cd04:24
sosukeinukawabrenner, i'm not sure. like i said, i'm a noob. i got it in my dumb head, that i was going to install ubuntu, and i did. it boots via yaboot04:25
tswWhiteRabbit: that would be best04:25
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WhiteRabbittsw, Im sure it's possible04:25
brennersosukeinukawa: that's probably why then...you aren't using grub as your bootloader...04:25
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tswWhiteRabbit: but ist non existing at the moment?04:25
WhiteRabbitjust re master the cd to fit on the business card cd04:25
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tsws/ist/its04:25
WhiteRabbittsw, I dunno04:25
WhiteRabbiteven if it was I'd wanna remaster it myself04:25
tswWhiteRabbit: thanks, Ill go search :)04:25
WhiteRabbitfor that control04:25
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sosukeinukawabrenner, ok, can i modify /etc/yaboot.conf ?04:26
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GNU-GPLLaserLine, i would say 68604:26
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LaserLineGNU-GPL what are the diffrence ?04:26
brennersosukeinukawa: not sure....never used it....but yeah, read the readme or any doc it has.....sorry i wasted your time04:27
d7rtanyone know if the fix for http://www.us.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-799 will be patched in and made available via hoary-security anytime soon (or how i would find out if the webcalendar currently provided by hoary is vulnerable)?04:27
Emoscan i install ubuntu into a computer that have windowsxp on it... i wanna have dual os system... can i do that ? and how04:27
sosukeinukawabrenner, nope, sorry i wasted yours. i appreciate your help.04:27
LaserLineWill Ubuntu ever adopt XFCE4, like kubuntu ??04:27
GNU-GPLLaserLine, k7 is old amd's (pre athlon+ series)04:27
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mjrLaserLine, XFCE4 packages are available (in universe, at least), if you want them04:28
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LaserLineGNU-GPL yeah.. ok thanks04:28
mjrI doubt anyone's going to start a separate project with that04:28
brennersosukeinukawa: np....i just assumed you were using grub.04:28
LaserLinemjr - i know i use it, but i can't get sound to work with xfce4 (like gnome sounds)04:28
SanderDHi. Do you know how to remove the ATI driver and control tool, that I installed with the ATI installer? I want to try the standard packages with Ubuntu now, I think..04:28
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RenskiOff topic, but doesnt anyone know of a #maths channel anywherE?04:28
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sosukeinukawabrenner, i guess not. from now on, if i install any other linux distros, i will04:29
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GNU-GPLRenski, i don't04:29
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Renskithere used to be one on bok.sk, a million years ago04:29
h4x0r2damh4x0rSTFUKTHX04:31
Hoxzer..... I still have not found a way to resize the ntsf partition :E04:31
wastrelprolly on efnet04:31
wastrelbut we say math in american english04:31
wastrelso try without the s04:31
Quinthiusanyone know why mplayer isn't resizing my video when i go fullscreen?04:32
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wastrelQuinthius, use the -zoom flag04:32
chrissturmQuinthius, use -vo xv04:32
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Quinthiusxv doesn't seem to wanna work... error initializing selected video_out device04:34
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LokeDKWill there be support for WPA-PSK in breezy?04:35
kentCan some one explain why a fellow ubuntu-user is banned here? his nick is ztoncy.  I just want a reason, not to argue. As far as I know, he hardly even talks here, just read. He's one of our friends in ubuntu.se (the swedish channel)04:35
nlogaxWhiteRabbit - sure am!  I've had enough of the M$ world04:36
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nlogaxBeen toying with Linux & various Unixes at work since '9604:36
brennerkent: who is he?04:36
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kentbrenner, well, thats a tuff question. A friendly ubuntu-user, and blender-artist. Not a person I would expect to be banned (and neither did he, he has no clue as to why he was banned). His nick is ztoncy.04:37
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kentbrenner, ztonzy that is. Sorry.04:37
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brennerkent: don't have a record of him being banned in my logs so don't really know why.....but usually someone gets banned for a reason....most common one is flooding instead of using a pastebin.04:39
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LaserLineHow can i get rid of ESD and use only ALSA ?? I followd http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but still have esd working, and if i killall esd sound disappears - I know what you guys think about ubuntuguide, but that was kinda handy.....04:41
n0x01hi there04:41
n0x01newbie here04:41
GNU-GPLhi n0x0104:42
brennerLaserLine: what apps are causing you probs?04:42
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fred__Hello !04:43
kentbrenner it might be the ISP that is banned, since two other persons from ubuntu.se aswell is banned (and they seem to have the same isp.)  they use bredbandsbolaget, 85.224.*.* (bredbandsbolaget.se)04:43
fred__is someone using Breezy Community 4 here ?04:43
LaserLinebrenner sometimes i have esd on 100% and have to kill it... this is a better guide i followed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:43
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Brandanobrenner: has a whole swedish ISP been banned? I got a couple of swedish users that say they've been banned with no apparent reason04:43
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LaserLinebrenner pingus can't make sound unless i disable sound in gnome.04:44
Akramehi all , how can i change a user's directory ?04:44
fred__i have some trouble installing the ati drivers04:44
kentBrandano, it seems so.  Brebandsbolaget seems to be the ISP.  Friends from ubuntu.se have problems joining ubuntu now :(04:44
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brennerBrandano, kent : it's possible.....bad ban maybe...try pinging the op in here04:44
fred__if someone could point me a good "Howto" it would be nice :)04:45
kentbrenner, dont know who the op is, And Im afried of disturbing :(04:45
brennerfred__: isn't there a new graphical installer on the ati site?04:45
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BrandanoIt's Seveas apparently :)04:45
Akramehi all , how can i change a user's directory ?04:45
orospakris there any way to do greylisting with hula?04:45
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kentSeveas, could you help us with this? We just want to know if an entire swedish ISP is banned, and the reason for it. (bredbandsbolaget.se..) Since a few of our swedish members in #ubuntu.se sais they are banned.04:46
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Hoxzercan I somehow change the theme of ubuntu because this white one looks so boooring04:46
wipsIs there some kind of IRC client for Ubuntu?04:46
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brennerwips: xchat is installed by default04:47
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brennerwips: so is gaim04:47
wipsoh04:47
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Seveaskent, what is the ip range?04:47
occyWhere can I get Gnome 2.12 for Ubuntu!04:47
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SeveasLaserLine, don't follow ubuntuguide04:47
occy;)04:47
Seveasespecially not the sound part04:47
LaserLineLet's ask it diffrently - is there a way for me to STOP using ESD and just use ALSA and still have sound ? (don't want the ESD process at all...)04:47
fluffybunny_does ubuntu have some kind of roll-back feature (like windows?) my hoary installation has been acting up recently (so bad, its has forced me to reboot into windows just to get some work done today!)...04:48
Seveasit should be named #howtofuckupyoursoundbadly04:48
LaserLineSeveas that's the only thing i followed... and the howto on the forums is better...04:48
kentSebischn, *!*@85.* ?04:48
kentSeveas,  *!*@85.* ?04:48
LaserLineSeveas I have sound and it works good with ALSA ans ESD. but i don't want to have the ESD process anymore....04:48
GNU-GPLSeveas, so your dutch eh?04:49
wipsI found Skype, but is there some kind of MSN messenger for Ubuntu? using hotmail accounts?04:50
LaserLineSeaves - any ideas ?04:50
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LaserLineSeveas got your name bad..sorry04:50
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brennerwips: gaim04:50
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SeveasGNU-GPL, yes04:51
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ztonzy:)04:51
GNU-GPLuit welke regio?04:51
AmaranthSeveas: what was that?04:51
d7rtokay, maybe a more general question is applicable then -- is there a better way to follow security isses than reading the notices?  is there anywhere somone could point me to find out when patched webcalendar packages might become available for hoary ?04:51
SeveasAmaranth, 85.* was a too wide ban04:52
Seveasblocked too much legitimate users04:52
Amaranthno, i mean why the ban?04:52
Seveasspambots04:52
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Seveasthe only spambots left come from 85.(9x|11x|10x).* now04:53
fluffybunny_does ubuntu have a rollback feature?04:53
ztonzyAmaranth, I found it I was banned today..and some other swe users...uh...didnt know why04:54
Nermalyou didn't miss much04:54
Seveasztonzy, basically, I hate people from sweden ;)04:54
AmaranthSeveas: that'll soon change04:54
Seveas(j/k)04:54
Amaranthhehe04:54
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SeveasAmaranth, for the worse or for the better?04:54
ztonzySeveas, lucky I know couple of nice dutchies ;)04:54
Amaranthfor the worse, if you ban them they'll buy new zombies in some other country04:55
LaserLineSeveas Could you help me with the ESD and ALSA ? alteast understandin git ?04:55
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fluffybunny_firefox acting up since I changed my boot scripts - does anyone know what should or shouldn't boot to stop this?04:55
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Red_Bullettell me how to install kernel-source pls04:56
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SeveasLaserLine, try #also or maybe crimsun can help04:56
Masterkongi got a tip about extended autocompletion in bash a few distros ago.. and that was a wonderful feature... but i dont remember how to enable it.. anyone kows what i mean?04:56
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SeveasRed_Bullet, why do you need it?04:56
Red_Bulletbecause NVIDIA driver04:57
NapasikAnyone know how to install a .bin file ?04:57
SeveasMasterkong, edit your .bashrc/.bash_profile04:57
Red_Bulletneed to compiletd to my kernel04:57
Seveasand uncomment the bash_completion stuff04:57
AmaranthRed_Bullet: ubuntu comes with the nvidia driver04:57
Masterkongah04:57
SeveasRed_Bullet, nonsense, ubuntu has nvidia drivers for you04:57
Seveas!nvidia04:57
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:57
Amaranth!info nvidia-glx04:57
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB04:57
Dr_Willissh whatever.bin04:57
LaserLineCrimson - could you help me ?04:57
Napasik!java04:57
ubotufrom memory, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:57
Red_Bulletare the driver installed04:57
Red_Bullet?04:57
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Red_Bulletin this moment04:57
AmaranthRed_Bullet: no, you need to install it manually04:58
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Red_Bullethow04:58
SeveasNapasik, installing bin files is not recommended -- what is it you're installing?04:58
AmaranthRed_Bullet: from synaptic04:58
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Seveas!tell Red_Bullet about nvidia04:58
AmaranthRed_Bullet: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager04:58
SeveasRed_Bullet, ubotu has told you how04:58
MasterkongSeveas, is that bash.bashrc?04:58
SeveasMasterkong, that's also a possibility04:59
Masterkongi'm, kinda a noob at this04:59
LaserLineCrimsun Could you help me ?04:59
NapasikSeveas, Java, for java programming04:59
Amaranthi hope this stupid laptop doesn't go into standby while i'm out having a smoke...grr04:59
Amaranthbrb04:59
SeveasNapasik, don't use bin files for that04:59
Seveasgrab a deb from hoary-extras or seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:59
NapasikSeveas,  couldnt find any other types04:59
HakisIs there some kind of "cpu-z" program for Ubuntu? I'd like to see my specs04:59
Seveasgrab a deb from hoary-extras or seveas.ubuntulinux.nl <-- Napasik05:00
Napasikahh, ty05:00
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SeveasHakis, cat /proc/cpuinfo05:00
Hakisthx05:01
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Hakisdoenst say how much ram/what kind of ram05:01
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NapasikSeveas, need username and password for seveas.ubuntlinux.nl05:02
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wickedpuppyhi guys ... does anyone knows /vmlinuz is same as /boot/kernel-2.6*05:03
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GNU-GPLwickedpuppy, it is..05:03
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wickedpuppyah k05:04
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wickedpuppyso its just different names??05:04
wickedpuppyboy05:04
HakisCan I someway find out my RAM,  Type++ in ubuntu?05:04
SeveasNapasik, check your PM :)05:04
johAnyone know when gnome 2.12 will be in breezy?05:04
SeveasHakis, cat /proc/meminfo05:04
Seveasjoh, it already is05:05
Hakisoh, k, thx Seveas05:05
windexSeveas, that dosen't tell you what kind it is. :)05:05
johSeveas: really? that's great :) thanks05:06
ztonzya month until next release ? :)05:06
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GNU-GPLwickedpuppy, /vmlinuz points to /boot/vmlinuz-kernelversion not /boot/kernel-version (it doesn't exist)05:07
brennerjust look at the screen when your computer boots.....iirc, mine tells me mine is DDR05:07
HakisSeveas, It doesnt say enough, I need more.. like what kind of ram... and is MemTotal:        62104 kB05:07
Hakis suppose to my total ram?05:07
Hakissupposed to be my total ram*05:07
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windexHakis, the 'free' command is easier to read for totals and in use.05:07
windexHakis, as far as what type it is, im not sure how to help you with that.05:08
Hakishm, k. I suppose I have to open the shit then :P05:08
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Hakisthe free command? ^^05:08
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Emoshow do i setup ubuntu to connect to the adsl internet connection05:09
windexyes. type 'free' into a terminal.05:09
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jose222hi05:09
windexit shows you the ammount of memory available, free, and the total05:09
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brennerubotu: tell Emos about adsl05:09
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Parallax_how do I enable audio preview on gnome ?05:09
LaserLineWhat's better ? ESD or Polyaudio ?05:10
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brennerParallax_: in nautilus?05:10
Parallax_brenner: yes05:10
tommi^Hi. It would seem that my filesystem is utf-8 now so I can't change to iso-8859-15 or filenames will look bad. At least firefox and nvu display filenames incorrectly while nautilus manages it. Is there a utf-8 -> another character set transition guide?05:10
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Amaranthstupid standby mode05:10
Hakisyeah, but what kind of memory is it talking about? is it RAM?05:10
brennerParallax_: it's in prefs05:10
jose222I'd installed windows another time, but I can't boot anymore, so I started ubuntu with a live cd. I followed the instructions to solve my                       problem. I                      typed grub-install /dev/hda2 and hda2 is where I intalled ubuntu. but i've got this error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.05:11
Parallax_brenner: I know but it doesn't work05:11
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brennerParallax_: you need to hover over an audio file05:11
fluffybunny_what is the most stable version of linux?05:11
tommi^Or alternatively can you tell me why the somebody else's doc files with scandinavian characters show like boxes in OO.org and how to fix it?05:11
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Myrtti!info eclipse05:12
jose222I was follwing thse instructions http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation05:12
Parallax_brenner: I hover over an audio file and it showsme a music icon but no sound is coming out. Nautilus->Preferences and audio preview is on always05:12
LaserLineafter i type 'killall esd' how do i restart it ??05:13
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Hakisuh.. again, can I somehow find out what kind of VGA card I have? :( heh05:13
Hoxzercan I somehow set terminal server client to total fullscreen mode?05:13
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tommi^Myrtti, you're a finnish too, how have you delt with office files coming from windows environment?05:14
Hoxzerand I still haven't found the way to resize ntsf :E05:14
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Myrttitommi^: by opening them :->05:14
Myrttino, what do you mean exactly05:14
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, theres 2 partition magic floppys one could use to do that05:15
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tommi^Myrtti, well that's a good idea. I previously asked about character sets. I'm having trouble with office files made with windows machines: the scandinavian characters appear as boxes.05:15
brennerLaserLine: 'esd' ?05:15
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tommi^Myrtti, are you using the default en_us / utf-8?05:16
HoxzerwhiteRabbit: so what do you want me to do?05:16
brennerParallax_: weird...now i'm not getting it....searched the forum?05:16
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, or you could use Acronis partitioner05:16
Parallax_brenner: I'm googling05:16
Myrttifor a week yes, I haven't actually tried what the documents look like since I switched from en_GB@ISO-8859-1505:16
WhiteRabbitbrenner, start esd05:17
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brennerWhiteRabbit: ?05:17
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La_PaRCahullo05:18
thyranealguien k hable espaol?05:18
Quinthiuswoot, fixed my xv problem... apparently Option "VideoOverlay" needs to be "on" in xorg.conf05:18
teleyinexhi05:18
eva-02how can i rmdir a directory that is not empty?05:18
teleyinexa backup tool05:18
tommi^Myrtti, I tried using the iso-8859-15 by setting it from dpkg-reconfigure locales and gdm but firefox and nvu show filenames weirdly.05:18
Emoscan ubuntu run applications from windows ?05:18
GNU-GPLthyrane, no05:18
Parallax_thyrane: yo05:18
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfsresizer/ *you are at fault for any data lose*05:18
QuinthiusEmos: no..05:18
thyranealguien puede ayudarme con un problema de sonido en ubuntu??05:19
Renskieva-02: rm <dir> -Rf05:19
QuinthiusEmos: whoops, misread that, sorry05:19
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brennereva-02: be careful though05:19
teleyinexnow im trying to use faubackup05:19
eva-02Renski: ty05:19
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QuinthiusEmos: some windows apps can be run using wine or cedega... or vmware05:19
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, but ntfsresize should do you fine05:19
LaserLinebrenner i hear quirks from my speaker....05:19
Myrttitommi^: don't bother, use env for the applications that you must run on some other locale than the default system one05:19
Emosem... is all that software free too ?05:19
LaserLinebrenner, isn't there a script that loads esd ?05:19
thyraneParallax_05:19
brennerLaserLine: straight typing 'esd' doesn't work?05:19
QuinthiusEmos: vmware is not free, wine is as far as i know, cedega has a pay version and a freee version (i hear the pay version is much better)05:20
Parallax_ thyrane: dime05:20
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HoxzerWhite: I dont really want to lose data :E05:20
Renskieva-02: like brenner said, be careful, thats how you loose crap loads of data05:20
QuinthiusEmos: and i think there is a free virtual machine called qemu or something, not sure how it compares with vmware05:20
thyraneno tengo sonido en ubuntu,sabes como solucionarlo?05:20
thyraneningun tipo de sonido05:20
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eva-02ya im ok, just trying to install quake205:20
LaserLinebrenner - wait, i'll kill it again05:20
GNU-GPLthyrane, s, si usted lo pide en ingls05:20
Parallax_ thyrane: entra en ubuntu-es05:20
eva-02wanted to start fresh :)05:20
jose222I'd installed windows another time, but I can't boot anymore, so I started ubuntu with a live cd. I followed the instructions to solve my                       problem. I                      typed grub-install /dev/hda2 and hda2 is where I intalled ubuntu. but i've got this error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.05:21
thyraneok05:21
jose222I was follwing thse instructions http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation05:21
LaserLinebrenner - I should run it from my X Session (gnome) or from TTY1 ?05:21
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, even if you use a Commerical product like Partition Magic or Acronis you are at some level of risk to losen some data05:21
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, blame MS for not sharing there ntfs code openly05:21
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tommi^Myrtti, that's a good idea but little bit inconvienent. "export en_GB@ISO-8859-15" for example ?05:22
brennerLaserLine: er, xsession probably05:22
Parallax_Solved: I needed to install mpg32105:22
tommi^Myrtti, correction, I mean locale=en..05:22
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LaserLinebrenner , but if i close the terminal esd ends again...05:22
Myrttitommi^: sure, though I haven't tried that05:22
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WhiteRabbitHoxzer, heres a few more ideas http://www.ranish.com/part/ I've heard more about this than the sourcefordge project05:23
LaserLinebrenner - nope.05:23
LaserLinebrenner doesn't work05:23
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, http://zeleps.com/ I dunno about this one just found it05:24
tommi^Myrtti, oright, thanks :)05:24
Myrttinp05:24
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, you might want to grab this one http://www.ultimatebootcd.com05:24
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brennerLaserLine: not sure then sorry05:24
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WhiteRabbitHoxzer, http://mrbass.org/ubcd/ as you can see the last screen shot it has a linux env on the full version which is also free05:25
LaserLinebrenner - I reticked the sound and esd came back, i can hear the beep sound in the multimedia sound selector both esd and alsa but gnome sounds stopped working....05:25
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LaserLinebrenner If i choose gnome sounds to use esd and i have a game like pingus to use alsa - so i could hear both sounds ?05:25
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brennerLaserLine: er, i'm not really a sound guru.....try pinging crimsun05:26
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brennerhe is05:26
LaserLinebrenner he is away.05:26
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Hoxzerwhiterabbit: Ubcd can't resize ntsf05:27
bur[n] er_qtparted can resize ntfs05:27
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, um ya it can05:27
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NapasikHow do i install deb files ?05:27
WhiteRabbitHoxzer, it has a toolchest of many programs to choose from once booted05:28
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bur[n] er_Napasik: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb05:28
Napasikkk05:28
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Napasikty05:28
bur[n] er_Napasik: be careful... make sure you konw what you're doing05:28
Napasik:)05:28
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MyrttiNapasik: debian files or ubuntu debs?05:28
helpneededhello guys05:28
brennerNapasik: what are you installing?05:28
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helpneededi use aptitude to install .. but can't find snort05:28
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NapasikUbuntu debs i guess, java05:28
helpneededi found it at packages.ubuntu.com05:29
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helpneededit's a deb file how do i install it?05:29
catfoxhi all. i'm on a fedora laptop (work machine) and want to download packages for my ubuntu desktop at home. i don't have a network at home yet, so is there an easy way of getting all the files + dependencies that i need somehow?05:29
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brennercatfox: apt-zip iirc05:29
HakisCan someone help me download and install http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amsn/ ?05:29
HakisIm kinda new to this05:29
catfoxbrenner, will that work on a fedora system/05:29
Myrtti!tell Hakis repos05:29
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MyrttiI don't know how to use the bot05:30
Myrttianyway05:30
Myrtti!repos05:30
ubotuI heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:30
brennercatfox: oh, probably not...05:30
DarkEagleHow do I get root permissions to my main user, because I would like to do things with graphics? I know that I should know it already but I'm going crazy with files "(read only)" :I05:30
helpneededi have a .deb file .. how do i install it?05:30
catfoxthats the prob. i don't have a debian system here05:30
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brennercatfox: hang on....googling05:31
gemulohcekmungwow05:31
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Myrttido things with graphics?05:31
reiki_work!dpkg05:31
ubotumethinks dpkg is the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'05:31
Myrttieerrrrmmmm05:31
WhiteRabbitDarkEagle, you dont just give full root access to your main user05:31
DarkEagleI mean in GUI05:31
WhiteRabbitDarkEagle, that would be insane05:31
Myrtti!root05:31
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:31
gemulohcekmungyo guy05:31
Truthcan anyone tell the command to install the codecs to play mp3 , mpeg , mpeg105:31
gemulohcekmungcan i ask something05:31
AmaranthSeveas: Why is 62.162.* banned? it's blocking a friend from joining the channel05:31
tommi^Myrtti, btw. you look soooo good.. :)05:31
brennercatfox: er, seems that yes, it's for debian systems only05:31
catfoxbrenner, you dont have to go to any trouble :)05:31
gemulohcekmungi want to know05:31
MyrttiDarkEagle: you have something configured wrongly if you don't get a GUI05:31
brennercatfox: in that case, you'll have to download deb files manually05:31
WhiteRabbitTruth, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad05:32
gemulohcekmungcan i connect to internet if i only boot ubuntu with live cd?05:32
DarkEagleOther nice would be that I could use filemanager whit root permissions in onl case I need05:32
gemulohcekmungi mean after i configure the network setting05:32
Myrttigemulohcekmung: prolly yes05:32
gemulohcekmungoh ic05:32
gemulohcekmung;))05:32
TruthWhiteRabbit, : E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad05:32
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helpneededbah05:32
helpneeded dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:32
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AmaranthTruth: enable universe05:32
brennercatfox: what do you wish to install?05:32
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helpneededi used dpkg --install05:32
WhiteRabbitDarkEagle, just right click the files & check write access for that file for you current user05:32
TruthAmaranth, how?05:32
helpneededand got depencies problem05:33
WhiteRabbitTruth, you need to setup repos first of all05:33
Myrttisudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
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catfoxbrenner, build-essential, glade+dev stuff, mono etc05:33
Amaranth!universe05:33
ubotuask me about !repositories05:33
gemulohcekmungwhat u mean helpneeded ?05:33
Amaranth!repositories05:33
ubotu[repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:33
NapasikHow do i find out the password for the ubuntu deb file ?05:33
AmaranthTruth: read what ubotu said05:33
helpneededi installed and got dependencies error05:33
helpneededhow do i correct it?05:33
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fluffybunny_help: i have no swap. I am swapless05:34
fluffybunny_i have a swap partition, but "top" shows 0K swap and swapon is an invalid command05:34
fluffybunny_command = arguement05:34
MyrttiNapasik: use your own password05:35
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fluffybunny_root@athena:/home/amanda # swapon -a05:35
fluffybunny_swapon: /dev/hda1: Invalid argument05:35
NapasikMyrtti, doesnt work :\05:35
gemulohcekmunglol05:35
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fluffybunny_Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    62312k cached05:35
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DarkEagleI try to mount (works in root terminal)  and use hda1 (ubuntu on hda5) but I can't even look in it...05:35
helpneededgemulohcekmung: how do i correct dependencies problems when installing with dpkg ?05:35
DarkEaglein file manager05:35
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brennercatfox: not too familiar with those, but i would guess they'd have a few dependencies...you'll need to apt-cache show the main package, then get the dependencies it lists05:36
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brennercatfox: you can download the deb files you need here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/05:37
smachhi everybody05:37
brennercopy them onto a CD, then dpkg -i *.deb when you get them onto your home computer05:37
catfoxbrenner, i'll take a look. thanks05:37
smachI need some help to configure alsa05:38
brennerhelpneeded: what are you trying to install?05:38
helpneededsnort05:38
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helpneededi have ubuntu with base install05:39
josipWho was that genius who set a ban on 62.162.* ?05:39
abarbaccia_helpneeded - did you try apt-get install snort?05:39
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WhiteRabbitI belive coke is a dep for snort05:39
brennerubotu: forget dpkg05:39
ubotui forgot dpkg, brenner05:39
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helpneededPackage snort is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:39
helpneededThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:39
helpneededis only available from another source05:39
helpneededE: Package snort has no installation candidate05:39
brennerubotu: dpkg is the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'.  It should be noted that installing this way should generally be used only if you can't find what you want in the repositories.  You should also avoid using any non-Ubuntu deb files (yes, even Debian ones).05:39
ubotuokay, brenner05:39
fluffybunny_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201605:40
abarbaccia_helpneeded what does your sources.list look like?05:40
brennerhelpneeded: you have universe enabled?05:40
Hakis!repos05:40
ubotuhmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:40
smachcan some one advise me about configuration of alsa plz05:40
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WhiteRabbitHakis, you like doin that alot don't ya!05:40
abarbaccia_helpneeded, put in the multiverse and any other restricted repositories - i just installed it no problem05:40
helpneededhow to see my source list?05:40
Amaranthjosip: oh, Seveas did05:40
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abarbaccia_sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list05:40
HakisWhiteRabbit, uh, no. I just did It again cause I forgot the other one05:40
fluffybunny_!swap05:40
uboturumour has it, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq05:40
brennerhelpneeded: note: don't paste in here05:41
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smachhey people!!!05:41
josipAmaranth, Bad, bad :-)05:41
abarbaccia_helpneeded, you can check out mine here: http://abarbaccia.com/mythtv/sources.list05:41
helpneededbrenner: ok sorry05:41
smachI really need help with my soud card05:41
Amaranthjosip: i guess we don't like people from macedonia ;)05:42
Myrttismach: I really need help reading your mind05:42
brennerhelpneeded: np...just thought you might paste your sources.list in here :)05:42
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brennerwhich you shouldn't do. :)05:42
josipAmaranth, We don't like you too :-D05:42
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brenneruse a pastebin if need be05:42
helpneededabarbaccia: where do i put the file?05:42
WhiteRabbitHakis, you can read about the multiwho here http://www.organelle.org/organelle/sadasah.html05:42
Hakismultiwho?05:43
smachno one to help me ?05:43
ztonzyuh, spambots is back :(05:43
DarkEagleSecond thing, Ubuntu didn't install pcmcia-cs because I installed ubuntu on other pc than my laptop. Now I need pcmcia support to Network. I can get things from net using windows ( = I got ubuntu and XP on laptop) and then move them to ubuntu. So is there any easy way to get that package. I downloaded it in tar.gz but I dont know how to install it correctly.05:43
abarbaccia_okay - do this:  wget http://abarbaccia.com/mythtv/sources.list; sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list05:43
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brennersmach: what probs are you having?05:43
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djibhey05:43
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WhiteRabbitHakis, who indeedy05:44
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smachthanks : I can't listen to two streams in the same time05:44
djibwhen I booted my computer, it said checking disk and then : failed05:44
helpneededallright done05:44
djibit explained ; 0.2% non-contiguous05:44
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djibwhat can I do ?05:44
helpneededso i just apt-get install snort now?05:44
abarbaccia_helpneeded, now do sudo apt-get update05:44
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brennersmach: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:45
Seveasjosip, what is your ip?05:45
helpneededwhat is that for?05:45
fluffybunny_help: swapon doesn't work?05:45
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SeveasI'll make an exception for it so the bans does not ban you05:45
abarbaccia_helpneeded, to tell apt-get about the new sources we added05:45
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abarbaccia_helpneeded, now you can apt-get install snort05:46
smachbrenner : thanks for help05:46
brennernp05:46
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josipThanks05:46
josip:-)05:46
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djibno one know about those non contiguous files?05:46
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helpneededi used to use aptitude05:47
helpneededis that the same as apt-get ?05:47
abarbaccia_almost05:47
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abarbaccia_as far as you know, yes05:47
helpneededwhich is better?05:47
brennerhelpneeded: you can still use aptitude if you want05:47
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abarbaccia_eh - better is a vague word - they both do the same job - aptitude is more flexible but if you dnot know how to use it can just get you in trouble05:47
fluffybunny_yippee, i got my swap working...05:47
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pawdrohello, ive just downloaded enlightenment by apt-get, and it's not added to gnome logging session05:48
pawdrowhat to do to add05:48
pawdroit05:48
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helpneededok then i'll use apt-get05:48
abarbaccia_good idea05:48
helpneededi got some server not found problem earlier05:49
helpneededwith this new souces.list it works fine05:49
brennerpawdro: if it doesn't add itself to the sessions menu...need to set up .xsessions iirc05:49
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liquidianHello everyone05:50
smachhi , plz I' d like to know if I can  See people's webcam on amsn05:50
helpneededok another question05:50
helpneededi couldn't find the packages05:50
helpneededso i install ss5 using the sources05:50
brennersmach: sound fixed?05:51
helpneededhow do i add the service to startup?05:51
DarkEagleHow do I get package whit no network in ubuntu (pcmcia-cs)05:51
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DarkEagle*with05:51
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smachnot yet05:52
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josipSince I dist-upgraded to Breezy from Hoary the system knows to slow everything down for ~10 seconds, the music is muted, mouse moves slowly and so on. I've heard about a HD problem ? Can someone give me further information ?05:52
NapasikAnyone know why I cant access Ubuntu deb files ?05:52
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brennerNapasik: access?05:52
smachbrenner; I executed the script given , it tells I don"t have a module config file05:52
NapasikYeah, It says that i cant access the file :s05:52
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brennerNapasik: what command are you running?05:53
slimer03josip, graphic driver05:53
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Napasiksobu dpkg -i05:53
brennerno wonder05:53
josipslimer03, I have the nvidia driver installed05:53
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brennerNapasik: it's 'sudo'05:53
slimer03reinstal05:53
Napasikyeah05:53
Napasiksudo05:53
Napasikmy bad05:53
Napasik;p05:53
josipslimer03, a second05:53
brennerdid you read this, btw?05:53
brenner!dpkg05:54
brenner !dpkg05:54
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brenner !dpkg05:54
ogami1972hello channel- say- how safe is it to use qtparted on your  root directory?05:54
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ogami1972i'm in need of a windows partition and i'd rather not clean install ubuntu05:54
smachbrenner: any idea about creating a moduke config file05:55
liquidianI would like to do a dist-upgrade to breezy - this will be about 900 mb - and i would like to know, if there are any mirrors containing the required .deb files or do i have to use the archive.ubuntu.com servers. I would be very happy if someone could tell me.05:55
brennerogami1972: you mean dualboot xp and ubuntu?05:55
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brennerNapasik: what's the full error?05:55
brennersmach: er, no, not really, sorry05:55
HakisHow do I delete a file in the terminal?05:56
smachbrenner: thanks05:56
ogami1972well, 98, not xp- but my root partition has like 7 gigs of free space- can i live cd, and resize safely?05:56
Napasikbrenner, got it working now :  )05:56
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smachrm file05:56
Hakisk, thx05:56
smachhakis: rm file or rm -r directory05:56
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brennerogami1972: i don't get you...you already have linux installed?05:57
Hakisuh, "cannot remove. permission denied"05:57
smachHakis :sudo rm file05:57
fluffybunny_new problem: when I log in to Ubuntu (gnome) i get the following error msg dialogue boxes: (1): Error (something about HAL!) (2) Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running.05:57
helpneededhi guys ... where can i control startup services?05:57
ogami1972i have 2 machines- a 98, and an ubuntu- i have need to put a windows patr. on my ubuntu machine, but i've put a lot of work into ubuntu- i'd rather not format and clean install both05:57
brennerhelpneeded: install rcconf05:57
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helpneededis that gui ?05:58
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brennerhelpneeded: sort of...ncurses05:58
smachHakis : did u remove it05:58
helpneededas long as it's not on X05:58
liquidianbrenner: Are there any mirrors containing the required .deb files for an dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy or do I have to use the archive.ubuntu.com server (because of speed)?05:59
brennerogami1972: so you'd like to resize your ubuntu root partition to make room?05:59
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helpneededbrenner: i'm downloading something now .. how do i break out and perform another task? on terminal05:59
ogami1972exactly- is it safe?05:59
brennerliquidian: afaik, no.....not 100% sure though05:59
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brennerliquidian: there _are_ mirrors of the sort:  au.archive.com iirc05:59
liquidianbrenner: thank you very much, i will try this06:00
brenner*au.archive.ubuntu.com06:00
brennerliquidian: just add the country before archive in your sources06:00
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eva-02does Breezy not use /etc/X11/xorg.conf?06:00
brennerliquidian: however, iirc, some of the mirrors point to same ones....e.d. au actually uses the uk one, iirc06:00
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ogami1972oh wait- if install windows- it'll mess up the boot loader, and i won't be able to boot linux- i remember now06:01
brennerhelpneeded: you can run rcconf in console06:01
brennerhelpneeded: ctrl+c06:01
liquidianbrenner: i am "de" i will try if its a bit faster - thank you very much06:01
danldo the source files exist in ubuntu to reconfigure and recompile the kernel?06:01
helpneededbrenner: no i don't wanna cancell it06:01
helpneededis it !06:01
brenneryes, it will cancel06:02
HakisHow do I edit a file in terminal?06:02
brennerhelpneeded: i don't get you then06:02
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danlhakis > with nano, pico or emacs06:02
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brennerHakis: use an editor that can run in console06:02
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brennerlike danl said06:02
helpneededbrenner: say i'm apt-get installing something .... takes some time06:02
Hakisoh06:02
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helpneededi wanna do something else ...06:02
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smachHakis : for example vim fichier06:02
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brennerhelpneeded: are you in X?06:02
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helpneededno i'm not06:03
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brennerhelpneeded: should've run screen then. :)06:03
danlbrenner what kind of acpi error?06:03
helpneededi'm connnecting via putty to the box06:03
brennerhelpneeded: afaik, not possible06:03
smachhakis : read the man pages of vim before06:03
brennerdanl: ?06:03
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brennersmach: recommending vim for a newbie? :)06:03
tommi^Myrtti, one tiny thing that I noticed... The documents contained a font that I didn't have. That was the real reason for displaying the characters incorrectly so everything is ok now.06:03
liquidianHakis: you can use "vi" - to edit press the "insert-key" to get to the "menu" the "esc-key", to save press then "w" to quit "q" and to quit without saving "q!"06:03
Hakiswell, Im doing an FAQ, and it tells me to add a line to /etc/fstab ..is there no easy of doing that?06:03
helpneededbrenner:: i used to rememver a command that can break out06:03
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fluffybunny_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201706:03
Myrttitommi^: nice to hear that06:03
helpneededand then get back06:03
helpneededjobs06:04
Hakiseasy way*06:04
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helpneededis that it?06:04
brennerliquidian: not exactly. :-/06:04
matthew_wWhere can I get transcode for ubuntu?06:04
liquidianyes brenner06:04
liquidiani forgot06:04
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liquidiani mean: ":q" ":w" or ":q!"06:04
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liquidiansorry hakis06:04
brennerhelpneeded: use 'screen' to perform simultaneous tasks in console06:04
Hakishuh?06:04
tommi^Myrtti, sorry that I took your time for nothing06:05
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tommi^See ya all.06:05
brennerHakis: use nano for now maybe, then learn vim later06:05
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Hakisbrenner, gah, only for adding a line? :( where can I find nano?06:05
seliniumHi all, what is a good webcam app?06:05
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helpneededbrenner: ok i got rcconf ... but i can't find ss5 in there ...06:06
c0nanselinium gnomeeting?06:06
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brennerHakis: should be installed already06:06
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Hakisbrenner, where? :P06:06
smachdo some one know any good 3D game except ut, doom and quake06:06
danlncurses doesn't come with ubuntu does it?06:06
fluffybunny_please help: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201806:06
brennerhelpneeded: need to add the service maybe then?06:06
seliniumc0nan, Hadn't even thought of that!06:06
seliniumsmach, Nexuiz06:06
ogami1972ok- new question- if you had to kill a working sys and reinstall, and wanted it back the way it was asap, what steps would you take?06:07
brennerdanl: er, i think it does..06:07
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smachselinium : is it free?06:07
helpneededbrenner: how to add the service06:07
brennerogami1972: back up your home partition06:07
helpneededis it in rcS.d ?06:07
seliniumsmach: yep! shall i send the the file?06:07
danlhmmm when i run make menuconfig it says it's not installed... make i will go tinker in the kernel directory a lil more06:07
brennernot too sure actually06:08
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ogami1972to another partition? how would i get it back?06:08
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helpneedednow everytime i have to manually start it when reboot06:08
smachselinium : what(s the size?06:08
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seliniumsmach, 161.5 MB06:08
brennerhelpneeded: search the wiki/forum for adding services06:08
DarkEagleI'm going to blow my head off becaus "You don't have permissions to read/execute/anything to this file" .... Except with sudo in console...06:09
smachselinium : ok06:09
brennerDarkEagle: it's called security... :-/06:09
ogami1972:)06:09
DarkEaglebrenner, it would be nice to get apt-get to work and pcmcia-cs installed for network06:09
oolonDarkEagle, sudo chown username /path/to/dir06:09
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brennerogami1972: copy it over again later, but iirc, ubuntu creates a home partition by default?06:10
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helpneededbrenner: got that ... I used to do aptitude search sometrhing06:10
smachselinium: thanks06:10
helpneededis there a search for apt-get?06:10
brennerapt-cache search <keywords>06:10
seliniumsmatch np: the website is at www.nexuiz.com06:10
brennerthen apt-cache show <package>06:10
c0nanhelpneeded apt-cache search ...06:10
smachselinium : do u have others games ?06:11
ogami1972exactly- when i reinstall ubuntu though, i think i can tell it which partition to use as home- like when you use the installation disk as rescue- is this correct?06:11
seliniumsmach: like what? 3d?06:11
matt_goodover the past couple of days I've had to kill gam_server several times since it keeps sucking up huge amounts of memory06:11
matt_goodis anyone else experiencing this?06:11
smachselinium : yes06:11
matt_good(this is on Breezy btw)06:12
sexcopter8000mdoes anyone know about auctex? i've installed it but have no idea how it "works"06:12
ogami1972well, i have to go to work anyway- this project will have to wait- thanks for the help brenner06:12
seliniumsmach: no other 3d games. I have an athlon 900 with 128K ram. Not the best for 3d games!06:12
sexcopter8000mit appears to be an add-on for emacs, but can't see how to invoke it06:12
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brennerogami1972: look in /etc/fstab to see if your home directory is stored on a parition06:12
oolonWhat is the difference between "Base System" and "Base System (Universe)" in a Synaptic Dialogue box?06:12
ogami1972it is- when i installed i put home and root on seperate partitions06:13
smachselinium : I see , any names so that i can make a search plz06:13
helpneededfunny but there's nothing on "adding services" in the wiki :(06:13
DarkEagleoolon, Thanks, that helped lot :I06:13
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oolonda:)06:13
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DarkEaglenow I would like to install that pcmcia-cs package (no network jet)06:14
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djibhas anyone of you got a pen table06:14
djibt06:14
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reylanbonsoir06:14
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DarkEagleI have pcmcia-cs.tar.gz extracted but no Idea howto install or something06:15
HakisWhere on my computer is nano?06:15
djibsalut reylan06:16
Hakis!nano06:16
ubotuHakis: Wish i knew06:16
Hakis..so do I06:16
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geeetis there any way to remove the black rectangles when minimizing06:16
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oolonDarkEagle, is there a reame or install file in there? most times though you start with ./configure06:16
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Absenthwhich package is it I need to install to get GCC and the other developer bits?06:17
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DarkEagleconf in terminal says "dmaged", Maybe because I used Windows to get it to ubuntu (net -> win -> ubuntu)06:18
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thrush_2Absenth, build-essential?06:18
DarkEagle*damaged"06:18
Absenththrush_2: that might be it.06:18
Absenththanks06:18
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NapasikWhats the command for refreshing your GNOME-thing-meny ;P06:18
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Napasikkillall - <Something>06:18
ooloncould be DarkEagle06:19
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Rockett18killall -gnome-panel i think06:19
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oolondoes anyone know what is the difference between "Base System" and "Base System (Universe)" in a Synaptic Dialogue box?06:19
HakisI How do I open a file in Nano?06:20
HakisIts killall gnome-panel06:20
deFrysknano /path/to/txtfile06:20
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deFrysknano -w for wrapping long lines06:21
Hakis?06:21
Gobblahow do i add the wine Repository i synaptic... the info on winehq.org seems to be for warty.....06:21
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Hakis..Im suppse to add one line to a file called at etc/fstab06:21
Seveas!forget yossi06:21
ubotui forgot yossi, Seveas06:21
Gobblahttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb06:21
SeveasLaserLine, don't play with the bot06:22
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smachselinium : I got it from the website , thanks06:22
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josipAny _good_ irc client excluding XChat ?06:22
helpneededbrenner: you've been great help .. thanks a million :)06:23
HakisDeFrysk, when I open the file in Nano its empty?06:23
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Red_Bullet!info nvidia-glx06:23
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB06:23
Red_Bullet!tell Red_Bullet nvidia-glx06:24
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deFryskHakis, what file are you trying to open ?06:24
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HakisdeFrysk, etc/fstab06:24
Red_Bullet!tell Red_Bullet  nvidia06:24
deFryskHakis, nano -w /etc/fstab06:24
Red_Bulletplease tel me about06:24
thrush_2josip, command line or gui?06:25
Red_Bulletdrivers06:25
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Red_Bulletfor NVIDIA06:25
deFryskHakis, you forgot the /06:25
josipthrush_2, gui06:25
Red_Bulletwhat to write06:25
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djibhas anyone tried the newest gnome ?06:25
deFryskHakis, also use sudo otherwise you cannot write to it06:25
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josipdjib, sure06:25
danlapm --help06:25
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danlarg wrong console :-D06:26
thrush_2josip, never fooled with any gui clients other than mirc and xchat..06:26
djibjosip: any good ?06:26
matthew_wHey uh, anyone have a link for enemy territory?06:26
josip:-)06:26
josipSo ... XChat :-)06:26
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josipmatthew_w, www.enemy-territory.com06:26
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smachselinium : I've got a little pb , I downloaded the windows version !!!06:27
Red_Bullethow to install drivers for NVIDIA06:27
HakisdeFrysk, : ah, k, I see now. and how do I save/overwrite?06:27
Red_Bullettell me again06:27
smachselinium : can you send the file again plz06:27
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Red_Bullettell to ubotu to tell me pls06:27
deFryskHakis, save = ctrl-x06:27
DrTigerhey, could someone please tell me how I can check for opengl configuration?06:27
HakisdeFrysk, ok, thx for everything06:28
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deFryskthen answer the question06:28
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Red_BulletDrTiger,06:28
Red_Bulletwrite06:28
Red_Bulletsax206:28
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DrTigersax2  is the suse x configurator, isn't it?06:28
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DrTigerat least theres no corresponding binary on my system yet06:29
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danlare there drivers that change the way acpi reads battery status?06:30
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djibDrTiger: yes it is06:30
laxisehi everyone06:30
djibhello06:30
DrTigerI'd like to state once more, that I hate the whole design of this crappy X Windows System06:31
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laxisehow to get out what kind of shell i use?06:31
laxiseis there any command?06:31
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Seveaslaxise, exit06:31
laxiseyes?06:31
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johUhm, the nvidia kernel module is not available in breezy's linux-restricted-modules package?06:32
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DrTigeryou can't relaunch a driver (mouse, keyboard, screens, cards) or even reconfigure any of them without killing off everything, including all your application windows06:32
yuachtis it stable to apt-get dist upgrade from hoary to breezy atm?06:32
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Seveasyuacht, no06:32
bur[n] eryuacht: no06:32
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yuachtok, why?06:32
eva-02which package should i get to enable flash in firefox?06:32
bur[n] erbecause stable comes in october ;)06:32
yuachtso long :(06:32
DrTigerI hope some day we get over the design from 86 -.-06:32
bur[n] er!tell eva-02 about flash06:33
bur[n] eryuacht: not that long... just wait ;)06:33
yuachtyeah06:33
eva-02ty06:33
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joh!nvidia06:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:33
DrTigerand by the way, I can't run sax2, I use ubuntu06:33
Seveaseva-02, flashplayer-mozilla06:33
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danlDrTiger, this abou this, most of the time when you do anything with drivers in MS Windows, you have to restart the whole system06:34
danl*think06:34
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DrTigeryep, but I've come to appreciate the way things normally are on Linux06:34
mz2how do i search which package provides a certain file?06:34
danllol06:34
Seveasmz2, apt-file06:34
DrTigerso how can I check whats wrong with the gl configuration?06:34
matthew_wWhat is a .run file?06:34
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bur[n] erDrTiger: using breezy I assume?06:35
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DrTigeryes, how do you know?06:35
bur[n] erbecause glx is broken in breezy06:35
danlAHHH I just uplugged my laptop and it's trying to force me to shutdown... it always says i have 12% battery unless my battery is really almost dead, then i have 63%...06:35
DrTiger-.-06:35
bur[n] erit's not stable yet ;)06:35
matthew_wOr more appropriately, how would I insall, a .run file06:35
eva-02what does "nonfree" mean exactly - e.g. apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree06:36
DrTiger danl: hey, at least you have battery support..... Ubuntu always thinks my laptop is connected to a power source06:36
eva-02it just isnt open source, or am i pirating software somehow06:36
Tomcat_eva-02: It's not free in the sense of "free software".06:36
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Tomcat_eva-02: You're not pirating anything, it's just not open source, as you said.06:36
matthew_wDrTiger, danl :  Do you have ACPI enabled in your kernels?06:36
eva-02ok06:36
eva-02a bit confusing :)06:37
crazzybuggerhello people!06:37
DrTigerI don't know, I'm using a standard 38606:37
johguys, isn't the nvidia driver in the restricted modules in breezy?06:37
Tomcat_eva-02: There's nothing illegal in the official repositories... never.06:37
=== bur[n] er has working battery :) (compaq x1000)
matthew_wDrTiger; what kernel?06:37
crazzybuggeri just heared about ubunto06:37
chrissturmhow can i recursively delete all directories called "target" with find ?06:37
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tux-roxI have gdesklets running on Ubuntu Breezy. I am behind a proxy and firewall. None of the weather gdesklets seem to work behind the proxy / firewall. Has anyone figured out how to get gdesklets to use the default proxy set in GNOME?06:37
Tomcat_eva-02: Though unofficial repositories might contain stuff that's somehow illegal. :o06:37
DrTigerI never was able to build my own kernel that would be able to mount my root fs -.-06:37
mz2Seveas, that's what i thought to06:37
mz2o06:37
mz2but this is what i get:06:37
mz2matias@pingu:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/growisofs06:37
mz2-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 71448 2005-05-23 14:32 /usr/bin/growisofs06:37
mz2matias@pingu:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/growisofs06:37
mz2matias@pingu:~$06:37
matthew_wDrTiger; to mount your root fs you would just edit /etc/fstab  nothing to do with your kernel... I would think.06:38
DrTigeruhm 2.6.10-5-38606:38
mz2also tried with just growisofs06:38
joh!breezy06:38
ubotubreezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:38
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danlmatthew, i don't know i can't get into kernel config to see06:38
DrTigerno, it totally won't mount it at all06:38
joh!breezy-nvidia06:38
ubotujoh: I give up, what is it?06:38
matthew_wdanl; probably 2.6.1006:38
joh!breezy nvidia06:38
larsrohdinhi, how can I check wich computers are connected to the same network as me? e.g. the same router or dsl modem... can i use nmblookup, and how then?06:38
ubotujoh: I don't know, could you explain it?06:38
DrTigergiving up just seconds after grub06:38
matthew_wThere's a big issue with laptop batteries, I couldn't get mine working either.06:38
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crazzybugger:-/06:39
danli know it's 2.6.10, but when i ren make config or make menuconfig i just get errors06:39
matthew_wWhat command do I use to install enemy territory?06:39
DrTigerwhen installing kernel source packages in the default config, acpi battery isn't checked06:39
matthew_wdanl; what were you trying to install?06:39
bur[n] ermatthew_w: chmod +x blah.run && sudo ./blah.run06:39
matthew_wDrTiger; do you get a kernel message when you start the computer saying something about starting ACPI?06:39
danli was trying to reconfigure and recompile the kernel06:39
matthew_wBetter yet, try typing dmesg into a terminal06:39
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danllast time tried recompile a kernel was year and half ago in gentoo...06:40
johDoes *anyone* know what has happened with the nvidia driver in breezy?06:40
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DrTigeracpi does work06:40
DrTigerit gives me temperature for example06:40
DrTigerbut no battery status ...06:41
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endy_xanyone knwo how to stop nautilus from making a ".Trash" folder on a usb drive?06:41
Hoxzer^what software can play cue + mp3 files?06:42
danldrtiger, same here i can get temp it just incorrectly reports the battery06:42
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DrTigerendy_x I d be interested in that tooo06:42
spiralhello... does anyone here know wether gnome 2.12 will be backported to hoary as kde is ?06:42
DrTigerI guess the battery isn't compiled into the kernel....06:42
magloffHoxzer^: rhythmbox06:42
endy_xDr_Fate, if I don't find out now but do later on I'll PM you :)06:42
DrTigerbut thats not possible to come over as long as I cant compile a working kernel here06:42
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DrTigerI can't even burn a DVD06:43
ziphow do i make gnome display the icons of my open applications in the menubar like Xfce does?06:43
DrTigerI just copy over some files to the nautilus burn window, click write to disc, insert it again, but it's impossible to mount it06:44
Auriacanare there motif library files for ubuntu?06:44
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JairunCalothblast it... what's the command to run a .deb06:44
thrush_2JairunCaloth, dpkg?06:44
josipJairunCaloth, dpkg -i package.deb06:44
DVSoftwareJairunCaloth: sudo dpkg -i06:45
Auriacanalien works too06:45
JairunCalothyea dpkg lol06:45
JairunCalothallways forget that one06:45
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thrush_2=)06:45
Kvarkhard to remember random letter combinations06:45
DrTigerFor the first time in two years I begin thinking about switching back to windows...06:45
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vanbergeanybody know the command in vi to substitute text?  :s/text//newtext    something like that?06:45
DVSoftwareDrTiger: omg06:45
Auriacanwait for windows vista06:46
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danlcentrino... p4 or pm ?06:46
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DrTigeror try using the "stable" ubuntu, but that hadnt battery support, working cd-r  etc either06:46
DVSoftwareAuriacan: vista will be the greatest shit from ms06:46
pussfelleraint it :s/old/new/g ?06:46
AuriacanDVSoftware, it's still better then XP06:46
vanbergepussfeller, that is right.. im sure of it.06:46
vanbergety!!06:46
DVSoftwareAuriacan: why06:47
Deterministany idea if gnome 2.12 would be ready in some repo for downloading before breezy is out?06:47
DVSoftwareit has more fancy colors?06:47
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pussfelleryeah vista will be teh greatest shit about 2 years after its released as swiss cheese06:47
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adjacentvanberge: its :%s/old/new/g to replace all occurences06:47
pussfellerjust like xp was06:47
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Kvarkwin 2k is quite good, very stable and kinda reasonable with the resource hogging06:47
Auriacanno, because of the "virutal folders" and file managment06:47
DrTigerdeterminist: you can upgrade to breezy06:47
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ziphow can i make gnome display the icons of my open applications in the menubar like Xfce does? so i right click the Gaim icon in the menu and such06:48
DrTigerdeterminist: if you are willing to spend a day making your system work again at all06:48
Auriacanplus vista is modular06:48
pussfelleri dont think xp is so bad once you turn teh display settings back to classic06:48
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Kvarkof course there is a lot of things missing in 2k too, like security06:48
DVSoftwareAuriacan: linux is modular, too06:48
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pussfellerlinux like defines the word modular06:48
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DVSoftwareAuriacan: there will be modular viruses and worms06:49
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Auriacanyes it is, but for gaming on my desktop, i still rather use windows06:49
DVSoftwareso they'll just plug in06:49
DVSoftware:D06:49
adjacentvista will be ok, but you still have to use VB to configure it, or go through 501425234524 checkboxes and menus06:49
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Auriacanbut right now, i need motif include libraries06:49
DrTigerlinux is modular in that it has thousands of modules that can make you stop doing anything with your system06:50
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pussfelleri have found games that have been ported to both win and linux play better than on win06:50
pussfellereven half life under wine was quicker and more stable than on win06:50
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DrTigerall depends on configuration06:50
zippuss: those two statements conflict06:50
LazyAngeldoes ubuntu work well with AMD Athlon 64 X2?06:50
eva-02too bad its a pain in the ass getting them to run in the first place06:51
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JairunCalothI run Star wars galaxies ( directx 9) in cedega, and it runs better in linux06:51
eva-02i still have no sound in quake2 :/06:51
DrTigerI find people get on extraordinarily well on Windows..06:51
DVSoftwareLazyAngel: with smp kernel probably yes06:51
AuriacanOS wars is not what i'm interested in....06:51
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adjacentDrTiger: hahahahahahahaha, then you have never worked tech support/pc service06:51
JairunCalothhowever not all games work well in linux06:51
DrTigerI did06:51
LazyAngelDVSoftware: so that supports 64 bit plus 2 cpu's?06:51
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DrTigerI don't mean everyone though06:51
DVSoftwareJairunCaloth: i play gta san andreas in cedega06:51
Kvark3D mark runs a lot better on win 98 then on win XP, haven't tried it in linux06:51
pussfellermost games arent ported natively like quake3 and ut were06:52
DVSoftwareLazyAngel: why not?06:52
adjacentDrTiger: they "get along" fine for around 4-6 months then have to pay someone to reinstall windows because it so screwed up it barely boots06:52
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pussfelleri would not want to do windows tech support over the phone06:52
LazyAngelDVSoftware: dunno :) i just have to make sure before buying a new computer. :) And MS will never touch it :P06:52
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Frafrahi all06:52
pussfelleri cant imagine the torture involved06:52
Frafrahttp://rafb.net/paste/results/kBsVAL29.html06:52
Frafrawhat i must install?06:52
Auriacani just want to mkae motif programs...06:52
DrTigerthat's almost the same for me on linux, though I don't spend bucks, but spend about a few days working on it06:52
Auriacanmake*06:52
LazyAngelDoes anyone know who has the best drivers for linux? ATI or NVIDIA?06:53
adjacentDrTiger: hehe, sucks for you then =) i like my half-year to year uptimes on servers, and my desktop usually has an uptime of around a month06:53
pussfellernvidia, hands down06:53
JairunCalothcan you install rpm's under ubuntu?06:53
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DrTigerpussfeller: I've done it, and I think its easier to make a bad user get his windows going than solving these linux probs06:54
LazyAngelJairunCaloth: no06:54
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HiddenFlyhow can i make a window transparent under gnome?06:54
pussfellerDrTiger: but with linux, if you have to, you can ssh in and fix it yourself06:54
DrTigeradjacent: My laptop can't run for a month because the battery usually runs out, as acpi won't show me the status ^ ^06:54
DVSoftwaretake a look at this06:54
DVSoftwarehttp://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark06:54
Auriacanmotif? anyone?06:55
pussfelleri guess ms has some remote tools but i dont know how well they work06:55
DrTigerpussfeller: yeah that would be nice... but you need to find them in internet for example06:55
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DVSoftwareJairunCaloth: you can install rpms only if they don't depend on many other things06:55
pussfellerya i can see how the networking could be a pain06:55
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pussfellerrouters, portforwarding and all06:55
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Frafrawho can help me? => http://rafb.net/paste/results/kBsVAL29.html06:56
DrTigerthat's why ssh is only an option if you're prepared for it, and a plain ubuntu user isn't.06:56
larsrohdinis there a command to show my own ip?06:56
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DVSoftwarelarsrohdin: ifconfig06:56
DrTigerubuntu has a ssh server of course, but there's no point getting to it, if the user hasn't cared for that until now06:57
magloffifconfig06:57
pussfellerFrafra: you need the x11 dev libraries06:57
seliniumHi all, anyone here installed a driver before?06:57
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Frafrapussfeller: what packages i must install?06:57
pussfellerwhich are the windowing system that runs what you see on your screen, but the extra libraries and c headers and all so you can compile software against them06:57
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pussfellerwhy are u using gpl flash anyways06:58
larsrohdinDVSoftware, yeah but i mean my external ip...06:58
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danlcompile in apm good or bad idea?06:58
Frafrapussfeller: i would use flash on amd6406:58
Frafrapussfeller: but those file, are there in a *-dev package?06:59
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pussfellerFrafra: yes, but i dont know the exact name06:59
Frafrapussfeller: me too xD06:59
Fraframmm...07:00
Frafrapussfeller: what i could try to install?07:00
DrTigernobody here knows, when glx will work in breezy?07:00
pussfellerx-dev ?07:01
Auriacanthere must be a way to get the motif libraries for ubuntu07:01
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laxisei got a small problem my archive manager couldnt open a rar file because of the rar archive not supported07:01
laxisewhat do i got to do?07:01
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DVSoftwareDrTiger: glx works for me07:01
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DrTigerfor me it doesnt07:01
Frafrapussfeller: i've already it07:02
DrTigersomebody that it's broken in breezy07:02
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DrTigerand I installed all the drivers ...07:02
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AzMooIn windows I can click my mousewheel and it'll bring up a thing that allows me to scroll by moving my mouse up and down. Can I do this in ubuntu?07:03
DrTigerin ubuntu you can scroll with your mousewheel without clicking on i07:03
DrTigert07:03
DrTigerclicking will result in the middle-mouse-action which can mean a lot of things depending on the aplication07:04
AzMooI know, but my fingers are getting sore from rolling it up and down. I do a lot of scrolling.07:04
windexubuntu even figured out how to use the mouse wheel on my keyboard07:04
DrTigerthen try the keys07:04
seliniumI am trying to install a driver for my webcam. It is failing during the make, can anyone help? Cheers07:04
DrTigeror click on the scrollbar07:04
AzMooIs cool, I'll just develop a callus. I was hoping I wouldn't have to though ;)07:04
DrTigershould work just fine07:04
laxisei got a small problem my archive manager couldnt open a rar file because of the rar archive not supported07:04
laxisehelp pls07:05
DrTigeryou can download unrar from apt07:05
DrTigerbut it won't read every rar file07:05
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DVSoftwarelaxise: unrar-nonfree should work fine07:05
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lolzkHow do I add resolutions here? Whilst setting up the resolution page confused me, when I tried to press enter to select to use more, it just continued with 1024x768 :\07:05
laxiseDrTiger: i did that but it does not open any rar file07:05
DVSoftwarelaxise: unrar-nonfree should work fine07:05
laxiseDVSoftare: also tried this07:06
DVSoftwarehmm07:06
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DrTigersome rare rars barely open with an unrar from a certain websites whose rare url my memory bares07:06
laxiseDVSoftware: also tried this07:06
laxisesry07:06
pussfellerunrar -x file, or unrar x file maybe07:06
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DVSoftwaremaybe rar has pass?07:06
cavediverHi. It seems my gdm screen is displayed at a lower refresh-rate than my desktop. Anyone know where to change that ?07:06
DrTigeryou have to use the command line07:06
hmrochacavediver, /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:06
laxiseok ill do this ... well see07:06
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hmrochahello07:06
DrTigerclever gnome does not know how to handle the second most common archiver07:06
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cavediverhmrocha: hmrocha can you be more specifiv ?07:07
DVSoftwarei have no problems in ark07:07
pussfellerthey took it out of gwenview too07:07
cavediver-v/+c07:07
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hmrochacavediver, the resolution used by gdm is the first resolution you find in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:07
CzarAlexI need to install libqt3-dev but doing so says I must remove the KDE package. ..can I continue to use KDE -and- have the libqt3-dev package installeD?07:07
cavediverok07:07
hmrochacavediver, you can change the resolution of gdm, to the resolution you use in gnome07:07
Auriacanok, does someone know how to compile motif programs on ubuntu07:07
seliniumcavediver: have you tried system/preferences/screen resolution  ?07:07
hmrochain ubuntu wiki, they say to install flash-nonfree07:08
hmrochai can't find that package!07:08
cavediverselinium: yes, it workes. But not on gdm07:08
hmrochai only have libflash-mozplugin07:08
hmrochabut it's really bad, firefox crashes a lot07:08
lolzkAnd also, all my resolutuoins in system -> screen resolutions are locked to 60hz, how do I add more modes? :\07:08
DVSoftware!info flash-nonfree07:08
seliniumcavediver, OK, do you scuba then?07:08
CzarAlexhmrocha, do you have your repositories installed?07:08
cavediverselinium: yes.07:08
DVSoftwarehmm07:08
hmrochayes07:08
seliniumcavediver, DIR?07:08
CzarAlexhmrocha, hmm. sorry. that was my only suggestion.07:08
hmrocha!info flashplugin-nonfree07:09
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB07:09
cavediverselinium: more of hogarthian, not full-dir by any means07:09
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hmrochaCzarAlex, i think i have multiverse, i'll double check that07:09
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seliniumcavediver: Cool, I am a BSAC/PADI diver. I am making connectors for uwatec dive computer for linux! ANd there is alot of DC linux software out there.07:10
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cavediverselinium: nice.07:10
lolzkanyone? :'(07:10
luitehas anyone here succeeded in getting the ati proprietary driver working in breezy? I'm getting a DRI version warning when using the 6.8.x driver, and unresolved symbols when using the 6.9.x driver07:10
cavediverwell.. time to reboot x then07:10
hmrochaCzarAlex, i didn't have multiverse, only universe :)07:10
hmrochaCzarAlex, thanks very much07:10
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thrush_2lolzk, i believe you will need to edit the xorg.conf file07:11
CzarAlexIm trying to install Kmuddy but get this error: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! - I have installed every package with QT in it except for libqt3-dev ..synaptic says installing that will uninstall the KDE package.. will that prevent me from using KDE? Will installing that package solve my problem?07:11
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CzarAlexhmrocha, no prob! glad I could help07:11
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cavediverHave you guys had tor abuse or why are we banned ?07:12
seliniumcavediver, http://www.linuxdiving.org/software/general/07:12
lolzkthrush_2, thanks, but what folder specifically?07:13
cavediverselinium: nice work.07:13
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delmonicohi :) is there a way to display all installed packages from a specific repository?07:16
WhiteRabbitsynaptic07:17
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thrush_2lolzk, i think you might have to define horizontal and vertical sync for your monitor in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file do you have your monitors manual?07:17
delmonicoWhiteRabbit: I tried with filters but i couldn't do it07:17
delmonicolooks like I need to write a script for the task :/07:17
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WhiteRabbitwithout filters to show all I would think07:17
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thrush_2offtopic: anyone here speak mandarin?07:19
kurtI talk to oranges all the time07:19
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delmonicokurt: haha, nice one :)07:20
_SWAT_does anyone have an idea where I can find a compiled Quake2?07:21
lolzkNew problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure...07:21
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GNU-GPL_SWAT_, ehm.. yeah on warez sites...07:21
garnetthello07:21
garnetto07:21
garnettgnu hello07:21
GNU-GPLbecause it's not free software07:21
GNU-GPLhello garnett07:21
_SWAT_GNU-GPL, why, it's under the GPL right?07:21
garnetthow are you07:21
GNU-GPL_SWAT_, no, the engine is.. the content isn't07:21
lolzkand yes, it is the right password, tried with about 507:21
CzarAlexdoes `make` sometimes take awhile..and hang on screens with a bunch of code?07:22
garnettgnu be rigt back07:22
garnetteating07:22
_SWAT_GNU-GPL, hmmm. OK. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info07:22
GNU-GPLyw07:22
Tomcat_Compiled Quake2? Why shouldn't he find it? .o07:22
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Tomcat_Maybe there's someone out there who compiled it? :o07:22
lolzkunless someone knows how to run07:22
WhiteRabbitthrush_2, Knee HoMA07:22
GNU-GPLQuake2 is a game07:22
GNU-GPLcommercial07:23
lolzk*how to edit xorg.conf without logging into root, that would also do, but I could really do with access to root...07:23
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WhiteRabbitQuake 3 is GPL'ed07:23
Tomcat_GNU-GPL: Yeah, but the source is free. :)07:23
WhiteRabbitQuake 3 is free07:23
HiddenWolfHow can I mount an iso?07:23
GNU-GPLyou're all wrong here07:23
Tomcat_GNU-GPL: So there might still be a compiled Quake2 without any content, and it's free.07:23
parsifal_HiddenWolf: mount -t iso9660?07:23
GNU-GPLlook.. if you say Quake2 or 3 you mean the game07:23
parsifal_HiddenWolf: or mount -t isofs?07:23
Tomcat_No, I mean the engine right now.07:23
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GNU-GPLwhat you mean is quake 2 ENGINE07:24
parsifal_HiddenWolf: isofs is meant for iso files, I think07:24
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Tomcat_And the engines of Quake2 and Quake3 are free.07:24
GNU-GPLright07:24
WhiteRabbitGNU-GPL, Anyone can take the source & compile the game now07:24
Tomcat_And so he might find a compiled version somewhere.07:24
GNU-GPLthe engines are free indeed07:24
Tomcat_But no content of course.07:24
GNU-GPLright07:24
WhiteRabbityou just need the formula & wala you can create a perfect copy of the game07:24
parsifal_I was able to install Ubuntu to an external firewire hdd, but I was not able to boot off of this hdd.  Is this a known issue, or did I set up the partitions or something, or?07:24
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GNU-GPLWhiteRabbit, only the engine can be compiled, coz the content isn't included (proprietary)07:25
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CzarAlexparsifal_, I was under the impresesion that you can't run an operating system off an external HD. But..I don't know very much. Perhaps thats just with windows.07:25
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Whistlerhi07:25
parsifal_CzarAlex: OS X allows you to boot off the firewire hdd07:25
GNU-GPLhi07:25
WhiteRabbitGNU-GPL, well thats just a shame07:25
lolzkNew problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure... :'(07:25
Tomcat_CzarAlex: Does work with Linux... not easy, but it does work. :o07:25
parsifal_CzarAlex: you just have to hold down 'f' or something07:26
DarkEagleJeah, I made it... I used other pc (has cd-rom drive, my laptop doesn't) installet pcmcia-cs and now network works :))07:26
CzarAlexthere we go! I stand corrected :)07:26
WhiteRabbitCzarAlex, you could research the mandriva globtrotter to soup you external install up some07:26
Alinuxhello, can I install Brezzy .iso on a partition without burning .iso image file?07:26
neighborleefresh install of hoary  from few months ago and no seeming problems till today..I booted and was dropped ( no errors that I see if x log file though) to shell..startx did nothing so I ran gdm which started fine, and wondering if anyone else has seen this or knows where to look to verify why this happened ???07:26
GNU-GPLWhiteRabbit, no not really.. it's given free, to let game programmers learn about the code or to write a new game (gpl'd) arround it.07:26
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WhiteRabbitAlinux, mount the iso & do a nfs install07:26
AlinuxWhiteRabbit, howto?07:27
WhiteRabbitGNU-GPL, O well I'll play it for free anyways07:27
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HakisDoes Ubuntu have any standard images/wallpapers installed? except the original one... if so, where are those?07:27
CzarAlexdoes `make` sometimes take..a very long time?07:27
parsifal_Alinux: mount -t isofs07:27
parsifal_Alinux: I dunno how to do the nfs part.. sounds like you might need two computers07:27
GNU-GPLCzarAlex, sometimes yes07:28
Alinuxno I have only 1 PC07:28
CzarAlexHakis, I haven't seen any. I got some nice ones at gnome-look.org and kde-look.org07:28
GNU-GPLdepends on the code what needs to be compiled.07:28
HakisCzarAlex, k, Ill check it out, thx07:28
CzarAlexHakis, no prob07:28
thrush_2Hakis, deviantart.com usually has some nice stuff07:29
WhiteRabbitAlinux, xnesting install07:29
AlinuxI know how mount a ISO, but I don't know how install it then07:29
CzarAlexGNU-GPL, Okay. Ive been wathcing the same code spill on to the screen every 60 seconds or so.07:29
parsifal_Alinux: how would you install Linux without using a CD or something?07:29
WhiteRabbitAlinux, Or you can play with the big boy & use Xen07:29
CzarAlexalways ending with `fi` on a single line.07:29
Alinuxparsifal_, I have .iso of Colony 407:29
parsifal_Alinux: you could make an ISO image of an installed partition, but you'd have to set up booting junk too, I think07:29
parsifal_Alinux: I've never really done this07:29
parsifal_what is Colony 4?07:29
Hakistrush_2: yah, been there hundred times :)07:29
parsifal_oh it's a beta07:30
Alinuxxnesting install?07:30
parsifal_what was added in Colony so far?07:30
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Alinuxwhat's this WhiteRabbit ? :)07:30
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garnettgnu coming07:30
WhiteRabbitAlinux, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/screenshots/index.html think of vmware for free in linux without all the bottlenecks07:31
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garnettwhite rabbir07:31
garnettt07:31
garnetthello07:31
mark_anyone use rox-filer?07:31
garnettmar hello07:31
AlinuxWhiteRabbit, thanks :) so I must use XEN :)07:31
WhiteRabbitgarnett, type the first few chars of a nick then hit tab07:31
WhiteRabbitAlinux, you aint gotta do anything07:31
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AlinuxI need to install Colony on real partition not virtual.07:31
WhiteRabbitit's up to you what & how you do it ;)~07:31
CzarAlexall I want to do is install kmuddy. why does it have to be so difficult?07:31
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garnetthow you do it07:32
mark_anyone know where the option to turn off diplaying the contents of windows in ROX is?07:32
garnetthello07:32
garnettwhy m speaking07:33
mik3what are some fun applications to keep my bored ass entertained07:33
WhiteRabbitmik3, nmap nessus saint!07:33
mik3haha07:33
garnetthahha07:33
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garnettmik too funny07:33
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WhiteRabbitmik3, Enemy Territory works to07:34
mik3what's enemy territory07:34
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garnettgnu-gpl07:34
GNU-GPLmultiplay game07:34
GNU-GPLfree07:34
garnetthey07:34
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GNU-GPLhey07:34
garnettgnu07:34
WhiteRabbitmik3, Hydra would be fun to07:34
garnettcoming07:34
WhiteRabbitout07:34
mik3first person shooter or what07:34
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jvlhi07:34
mik3this box is slow as hell07:34
garnettshooter07:35
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GNU-GPLEnemy territory is a fps07:35
garnettwowwwwww07:35
garnettwhere07:35
garnettit game07:35
mik3i'm running a pII 450 192mb, i need dopewars or something haha07:35
CzarAlexdoes this make sense to anyone? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2019 it keeps repeating itself on my screen every few seconds when i used the MAKE command to build Kmuddy07:35
garnettgnu07:35
WhiteRabbitmik3, http://www.3dgamers.com/games/wolfensteinet/screenshots/07:36
WhiteRabbitmik3, it's free as quake 3's * cough * engine07:36
GNU-GPLhahaha07:36
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GNU-GPLonly WITH content07:36
GNU-GPL:)07:36
garnettgnu07:36
garnetthelle07:36
maruchanis their a way to use the open file opition in azureus07:36
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garnettgnu-gpl hello07:36
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mik3WhiteRabbit : yeah but can i run it on a pII 450 192mb of ram with a craptacular AGP vid card07:36
mik3garnett : what the hell is your problem, cletus?07:37
WhiteRabbitonelinerguy, like stop n stuff lol07:37
WhiteRabbitmik3, yes07:37
mik3WhiteRabbit : solid.07:37
WhiteRabbitmik3, it's not a ALL your Video Card ram are to belong to us kinda game07:37
WhiteRabbitbut yet it looks Nice very nice07:37
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garnettNO07:37
CzarAlexmik3, craptacular? I have a few computer components made by those guys.07:37
GNU-GPLinfact it's lightweighted07:37
garnettproblem07:37
mik3CzarAlex : lol07:37
GNU-GPL(kind)07:37
maruchanno one use azeroues?07:37
jvlim having a small problem with synaptic. if i mark a package for installation my sinaptic window closes. if i mark it to reinstall it works fine. any ideas?07:37
GNU-GPLmaruchan, i doo07:38
GNU-GPLerr07:38
GNU-GPLdo07:38
garnettgnu-gpl hello07:38
WhiteRabbitmaruchan, java bittorrent07:38
garnetthow are you07:38
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WhiteRabbitmaruchan, You wanna edit the az.sh & lower the ram from 128 to 64 megs before you even ask07:38
GNU-GPLgarnett, fine.. thank you07:38
WhiteRabbitlol07:38
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maruchanI have no problems with it, i just want to figure out how to use the open file opition in it07:39
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toxiclewhois toxicle07:39
toxiclesorry :)07:39
WhiteRabbityou choose a torrent file07:40
WhiteRabbit& away you go with it07:40
garnettgnu eat07:40
WhiteRabbitalthough your gonna wanna open the ports 6881 both tcp & udp07:40
GNU-GPL_IDLEgnu idle07:40
GNU-GPL_IDLE;)07:40
WhiteRabbitGNU-GPL_IDLE, but your in xchat07:40
garnett:)07:40
garnettyea07:40
WhiteRabbitwhy not use the away fuction!07:40
garnettbecause07:40
GNU-GPL_IDLEyes.. will do07:40
GNU-GPL_IDLEdamn you guys are quick07:41
GNU-GPL_IDLE:P07:41
garnett:D07:41
poningruyou know what the original nautilus dev just said?07:41
garnettgnu too funny07:41
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jvlmaruchan: you use the open file option in azureus to load a torrent file that you have on your FS07:41
WhiteRabbitgarnett, just change your name to Ed Mcmann right now07:41
garnettwhy07:41
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maruchanahh, so it wont open the file i downloaded07:42
WhiteRabbitgarnett, your like a comic supporter actor07:42
WhiteRabbityes07:42
WhiteRabbitahaha07:42
WhiteRabbitto funny07:42
garnett:)07:42
WhiteRabbit;D07:42
garnett;D07:42
WhiteRabbit:)07:42
GNU-GPL_IDLE:(07:42
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mik3garnett is one of God's prototypes, too weird to live, too rare to die.07:43
garnettwhat my writing colur gnu-gpl07:43
Muffiehello all. Is it possible to upgrade my ubuntu to latest Gnome 2.12 through apt-get?07:43
mik3muffie you should just use the apt-get update for that kind of crap07:43
WhiteRabbitMuffie, why do you wanna do that07:43
garnettwhite rabbit how old are you07:43
MuffieWhiteRabbit, to use the latest version!07:44
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WhiteRabbitgarnett, you must of mistaken this for AOL chat ;)~07:44
Muffiemik3, apt-get update gnome should do that?07:44
WhiteRabbitMuffie, for what reason though?07:44
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MuffieWhiteRabbit, well.. seems prettier! :)07:44
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garnettare you mns adress07:44
WhiteRabbitMuffie, What caused that?07:44
garnettwhite rabbit07:44
FraeonGraah. I'm stumped.07:44
mik3Muffie : i would assume so, i may be perfectly wrong but i would assume updating via apt-get would cover all corners07:44
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MuffieWhiteRabbit, You're running some kind of chatterbot!? :)07:45
WhiteRabbitgarnett, I'm a ghost in a turkish shell...07:45
jvlmaruchan: with that option you'll be able to select one of the torrents files you have on your FS and then select the location to where you want to download it to07:45
garnettyea07:45
garnettspeaking turkish07:45
GNU-GPLpom pom07:45
garnettwhite rabbit07:46
GNU-GPLwhoami07:46
WhiteRabbitMuffie, I was just waiting for you to say I want the new gnome because it has Cairo thats all07:46
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garnettspeaking turkish white rabbit07:46
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MuffieWhiteRabbit, http://www.osnews.com/img/11800/gnome1.png07:47
Muffie:)07:47
Bateau_how do i completly uninstall a .deb package?07:47
garnettwhat are you msn adress white rabbit07:47
lapoBateau_, dpkg --purge package07:48
GNU-GPLgarnett, priv message07:48
MuffieWhiteRabbit, Visual first! Functionality later! im feeling LAMMAH right now!07:48
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Bateau_tanks lapo :)07:48
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Goshawkis there somebody running breezy here?07:48
beekayis there any explaination for the xmms m4a plugin not working?07:48
garnettno07:49
beekay:)07:49
mik3what's m4a?07:49
beekaya file type07:49
beekayfor music07:49
reiki_workunprotected m4p07:49
Bateau_that didnt work lapo :P07:49
lapoBateau_, you need sudo07:50
MuffieWhiteRabbit, So, its just use apt-get update07:50
Bateau_i did use sudo07:50
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lapoBateau_, that is the command, perhaps you use a wrong package name?07:51
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GNU-GPLwrong button07:51
GNU-GPLhehe07:51
Bateau_yeah, i did :) thanks for the help lapo :)07:51
garnettgnu07:51
GNU-GPLyes07:51
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lapoBateau_, np07:52
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Muffiemik3, apt-get update, just updates the list of software to install, isnt it?07:52
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ubuntu:-D07:53
ubuntunice nick I have07:53
garnettGNU-GPL coming private room07:53
ubuntujust checking what kind of program this X-Chat is07:54
ubuntuso good night everybody07:54
sbartleylinuxLooking for information on creating an Ubuntu based light distribution using xorg, xfce, firefox, thunderbird and our own application sets.  Any recommendations on where to start looking?07:54
garnettYEA07:54
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Sonny_Wertzikhello07:54
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Sonny_WertzikIm having a problem with terminal and root terminal....not commands but the actual program..can someone help me?07:56
garnettgnu gpl07:56
garnetthello07:56
garnettthering07:56
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Sonny_Wertziku talkin to me garnett?07:57
garnettyes07:57
garnettu07:57
Sonny_Wertzikoh hehe hi07:58
garnetthi07:58
mik3Sonny_Wertzik what's the problem07:58
garnetthow are you sonny07:58
Sonny_Wertzikmy terminal just opens and closes07:58
Sonny_Wertzikgood and u?07:58
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Sonny_Wertzikroot terminal opens but i cant type in it07:58
garnettwhats your problem sonny07:58
Sonny_Wertzikroot terminal opens but i cant type in it07:58
mik3Sonny_Wertzik : try running a regular terminal and typing sudo -s07:59
mik3what does it do07:59
Sonny_Wertzikjust a blinking cursor07:59
garnettwhere are you from07:59
DVSoftwaregarnett: stop spamming for god's sake07:59
Sonny_Wertzikct.07:59
mik3garnett is like our own channel Fezz07:59
WhiteRabbitgarnett, ya turkey!07:59
Sonny_Wertziki cant type in it07:59
mik3Sonny_Wertzik : in sudo -s?07:59
Sonny_Wertzikin the root terminal...i cant type08:00
kurtam I the only one that thinks it's silly that in gnome 2.12 they have a network servers tick in "Places" on the menu bar, but not in nautilus itself?08:00
garnettwhite rabbit you in the turkey08:00
mik3Sonny_Wertzik : open a regular terminal , gnome terminal or whatever, and type sudo -s08:00
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garnett????????????08:00
Sonny_Wertziknone of them work mik308:01
garnettwhite rabbit08:01
garnett????????????08:01
WhiteRabbitgarnett, My Stove Top is for sure08:01
mik3Sonny_Wertzik : interesting.08:01
Red_Bulletpleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!???08:01
Sonny_Wertzikhehe more like frustrating08:01
mik3Sonny_Wertzik : that too.08:01
WhiteRabbitSonny_Wertzik, ctrl+c08:01
garnettyou can speaking turkish white rabbit08:01
WhiteRabbitwhats that do for ya08:01
Sonny_Wertzikcontrol c?08:02
DVSoftwaregarnett: please keep off topic out of this channel08:02
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WhiteRabbitgarnett,   !08:02
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garnettwhy08:02
garnettdvsoftware08:02
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Sonny_Wertzikcontrol c = nothing08:02
DVSoftwaregarnett: because this is ubuntu help channel08:02
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DVSoftwarenot chit-chat channel08:03
WhiteRabbitSonny_Wertzik, so your window focus is all fscked up I take it?08:03
MaxeyPadi'm just curuious, by default why does ubuntu not ship with mp3 support08:03
Red_Bulletpleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!???08:03
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MaxeyPador for that matter, why does it not ship with the video codecs etc08:03
DVSoftwareMaxeyPad: because it's restricted format08:03
kurtMaxeyPad: It's a propriety formate08:03
MaxeyPadI see08:03
Sonny_Wertzikwhta?s window focus08:03
kurtformat, too08:03
MaxeyPadI was unaware of that08:03
MaxeyPadthanks08:03
Red_Bullet:(08:03
WhiteRabbitgarnett, what DVSoftware is trying to say *rolls eyes* is that your farting out more noise than helpful comments08:03
garnettnothing keep off topic out of this channel08:03
Sonny_Wertzikeverything works except the terminals08:04
DVSoftwareWhiteRabbit: i bet garnett is some stinky bot08:04
WhiteRabbitSonny_Wertzik, well lets get a new term!08:04
Sonny_Wertzikok08:04
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, Just because he is from the nation of fraud means nothing ;)~08:04
Sonny_Wertzikwhat do i do?08:04
garnettam  problem08:05
WhiteRabbitSonny_Wertzik, you want a boring shell or a erotic sexy shell08:05
garnettwhat08:05
WhiteRabbitSonny_Wertzik, install aterm08:05
Sonny_Wertzikwhat u think?08:05
DVSoftwaregarnett: problem is that you are talking bullshit08:05
Sonny_Wertzikthehe08:05
WhiteRabbitaterm is sexy08:05
daysleperSonny_Wertzik,  maybe you could try:    ctrl-alt-f1  gives you the text-mode terminal ..   ctrl-alt-f7 switches you back to graphics-mode (Gnome)08:05
mik3konsole <308:05
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WhiteRabbitkillall gnome-session although that my very well log you out sometimes08:05
garnettm not outing this channel08:05
WhiteRabbitgarnett, really?08:06
garnettyes08:06
mik3garnett: do elephants poop in the ocean?08:06
Sonny_Wertzikokya u know i didnt try that yet but id like the term to work in ggui08:06
garnettno08:06
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mik3garnett : what is 5 + 5 = ?08:06
trygvebwWhy was "Run Application" removed?08:06
garnett1008:06
trygvebwFrom the menu?08:06
No1Viking1008:06
mik3no he's real, just stupid08:06
amo-ej1anybody got vlc working under ubuntu ? with me most encoders (when transcoding) like mp4 and mp3 are not found08:07
Sonny_Wertzikin aterm in synaptic manager?08:07
daysleperSonny_Wertzik, sure .. but try starting gnome-terminal from the command-line in the text-mode terminal ..  it should give you some messages if it fails08:07
sbartleylinux Looking for information on creating an Ubuntu based light distribution using xorg, xfce, firefox, thunderbird and our own application sets.  Any recommendations on where to start looking?08:07
Hoxzer^how do I remove programs?08:07
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trygvebwsbartleylinux: wiki08:07
sorush20what program will tell you the usage of your hdd08:07
Sonny_Wertzikok day i will try it08:07
bur[n] er!tell amo-ej1 about restrictedformats08:07
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bur[n] ersorush20: gnome-system-monitor08:07
Hoxzer^oh, nonthing. Figured it :)08:07
garnettmik3:  99*99=?08:07
sbartleylinuxtrygvebw, I have been there all day and find nothing that helps with the question of creating a light ubuntu based distro.  can you give more specifics?08:08
amo-ej1!tell bur[n] er about faad ?08:08
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Sonny_Wertzikif it fails ...should i try aterm?08:08
trygvebwsbartleylinux: hmm08:08
trygvebwsbartleylinux: i think you should try asking on #ubuntu-devel08:08
trygvebwbecause08:08
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trygvebwthat is more of a developer related thing08:08
MuffieWhiteRabbit, r u there?08:08
trygvebw*development08:08
sbartleylinuxk08:08
bur[n] eramo-ej1: ?08:08
WhiteRabbitMuffie, sometimes I am08:08
trygvebw:)08:08
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amo-ej1bur[n] er, faad is an open source AAC (mp4) codec08:08
MuffieWhiteRabbit, so, i have used apt-get install gnome. But I still have 2.10...08:08
garnettlinux game downloading08:09
Sonny_Wertzikdaysleper:       if it fails ...should i try aterm?08:09
amo-ej1imo nothing restricted about it08:09
mik3Muffie : www.gnome.org should have information on updating repositories to grab their latest and greatest, you should check with them08:09
bur[n] eramo-ej1: now that I think about it, vlc uses its own codecs right?  not based on gstreamer or xine?08:09
daysleperSonny_Wertzik, uhm .. dunno, it kinda shouldn't fail ..08:09
WhiteRabbitgoogle.com/linux is broken atm lol08:09
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bur[n] erbut for kicks, did you search apt for faad?08:10
amo-ej1indeed08:10
Muffiemik3, so, its not at Ubuntu repository yet?08:10
amo-ej1but it fails to detect mp3/mp4  codecs08:10
WhiteRabbitMuffie, because your not grabbing off the right repo08:10
Sonny_Wertzikhehe ok bb in a few08:10
Sonny_Wertzikthank you08:10
bur[n] eramo-ej1: to play or to encode to?08:10
WhiteRabbitMuffie, the ubuntu your in now will not have 2.12 but yet the next version will08:10
amo-ej1bur[n] er, to encode08:10
WhiteRabbitMuffie, you are gonna need to find someones repo were they did all the hard work for ya first08:10
bur[n] eramo-ej1: you have the lame mp3 encoder?08:11
MuffieWhiteRabbit, so, as mik3 told, i have to check for a UBUNTU repository at gnome.org?08:11
amo-ej1bur[n] er, tried to installed it, but vlc still game the same error08:11
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bur[n] eramo-ej1: apt-get install vlc-plugin* ??08:12
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amo-ej1bur[n] er,  those are only output plugins like oss, alsa, sdl08:12
amo-ej1not encoders/decoders08:13
sorush20is there anything that tells you what the usage of your hdd is like..08:13
amo-ej1sorush20, df08:13
Hoxzer^df -h08:13
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sorush20what is the good backup utiligy08:14
Sonny_WertzikHello again....i found the problem but i cant fix it08:14
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darkie|ubuntuHI.. can you tell me how to get this irrssi whit beter outfit than terminal, or can't I? Or should I use X chat?08:14
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daysleperdarkie|ubuntu, x-chat is nice08:15
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Hoxzer^can somebody help me to setup TV-out in nvidia card?08:16
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sordichow can i install wxpython2.6 on hoary without broking the packages ?08:17
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shinudarkie|ubuntu: irssi is for terminals only from what i know08:17
darkie|ubuntupeople (my some friends) allways talk about irssi, so I tried ... :/08:17
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shinuim using irssi right now08:17
shinui really like it08:17
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darkie|ubuntushinu: from terminal only?08:17
shinuits 'lighter' than xchat though it took me some time to get used to it08:17
Hoxzer^Irssi is good when you have a server where you can run it :)08:17
shinudarkie|ubuntu: sorry?08:18
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shinudarkie|ubuntu: irssi is text mode only08:19
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shinuif you want graphical stuff (ie. youre rather new to linux) try xchat08:19
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daysleperbtw. does irssi have support for utf-8 ..?08:20
Hoxzer^strange beep media player just crashes when I try to play mp3's with it08:20
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darkie|ubuntudamn that irc in gaim was so bad.. and there is no linux version of trillian08:21
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darkie|ubuntudaysleper: utf-8 included what characters?08:21
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darkie|ubuntu(I can't remembe all things :) )08:22
daysleperdarkie|ubuntu, what?     at least Norwegian ones:    ... heh08:22
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shinudaysleper: maybe try that question on #irssi08:22
spolasuppose i have a directory containing the original source, and a diffrent one containing my modified code. how would i go about making a file containing the changes between the files?08:22
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kunghi there08:23
darkie|ubuntudaysleper: at least I get those right :)08:23
timtuxHi, just have an question. Does somone knows if VIA UniChrome PRO IGP (GFX card) ( K8N800 ) will be supported in breezy?08:23
kungdoes ubuntu have an auto start file like local.start in gentoo?08:23
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darkie|ubuntu:I I had cood idea to take freenode to 2. tab, but alt was used for tabs and irssi tabs ...damn... so see you again -->08:25
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Frafrahi all08:25
Frafrahttp://rafb.net/paste/results/OtPuvc23.html08:25
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Frafrawho can help me?08:26
puffWhen resuming from suspend-to-disk, frequently the wireless card doesn't show up.  Doing apt-get --reinstall linux-image and rebooting fixes this.... for a day or two, until it disappears again.08:27
puffFrafra: What's your question?08:27
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Frafrapuff: make crash => http://rafb.net/paste/results/OtPuvc23.html08:27
puffIs there a good mailing list for more this sort of problem?08:27
SeveasFrafra, do as the error message says, recompile with -fpic08:27
unaturali got problem08:27
unaturalsudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get -f upgrade; sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get -f install08:27
unaturaloops08:27
unatural:|08:27
unaturaldpkg: error processing gtkboard (--configure):08:27
unatural subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 908:27
unaturalErrors were encountered while processing:08:27
unatural gtkboard08:27
FrafraSeveas: yes, but i don't know where i must put it08:28
Seveasunreal, DO NOT PASTE in here!08:28
unaturaloops08:28
unaturalsry08:28
unatural=\08:28
SeveasFrafra, try adding it to the CFLAGS in the makefile08:28
FrafraCFLAGS = -g -O208:28
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unaturalhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/202008:28
E0xhello08:28
Frafrai'll add -fPIC08:28
unaturalhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2020 - how can i fix it08:28
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puffFirefox occasionally seems to be hanging on me.  Finally have to kill it.  This is the most up to date firefox in ubuntu's apt archives, 1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp108:29
Herberthey, all08:29
Seveasunatural, purgr gtkboard again08:29
Seveaspurge*08:29
Seveasthe package is broken08:29
E0xsomebody know what i need have for get the automount like ubuntu does it ?08:29
HerbertDoes Ubuntu have a nice graphical program so I can format and partition an external hard-drive I have on my system or do I have to do it on the command line? :)08:29
FrafraSeveas: I've do it, i've save the file, i've do sudo make but the error is the same08:29
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SeveasNEVER do sudo make08:30
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Seveasmake can be done as normal user08:30
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unaturalpurge?08:30
unatural:\08:30
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Seveasaptitude purge gtkboard08:30
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Hakis|UbuntuSeveas, Is doing things in sudo that can be done as norma user not smart?08:30
Deterministi think i've finally come to terms with my system under ubuntu, everything works the way i need it to :)08:31
Pyfwhat is a good audio editing program08:31
Pyf#?08:31
SeveasHakis|Ubuntu, it's not just 'not smart' it's the cause of many problems08:31
puffHakis|Ubuntu: Generally, not smart.08:31
FrafraSeveas: the error is the same08:31
neighborleePyf, audacity is pretty nice08:31
HerbertI see a "floppy formatter", but I don't see a hard-drive formatter. :)08:31
SeveasFraeon, ask on a gplflash specific place then08:31
Hakis|UbuntuHow can that be a problem?08:31
SeveasFrafra*08:31
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HerbertI just installed the system. That's the only thing I need to know.08:31
Frafraok08:32
Pyfneighborlee, does that do dj like things?08:32
HerbertEverything works great.08:32
SeveasHerbert, mkfs08:32
Herbert*sigh*08:32
Herbertvery well08:32
neighborleePyf, like what08:32
SeveasI don't know of a gui hard drive formatter08:32
HerbertSeveas, Mandrake had one.08:32
Seveasmkfs does the job pretty well08:32
HerbertYes.08:32
SeveasHerbert, do you happen to know the name of the thing?08:32
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HerbertSeveas, hm. I don't. :(08:33
garnetthello08:33
HerbertIt was useful when you had several drives you wanted to partition and format.08:33
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garnettherbert hello08:33
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Pyfneighborlee, ill get it then ;)08:33
Herberthi, gabaug08:33
garnetthow are you08:34
Absenthis there a page that lists what improvements Breezy is going to have over Hoary?08:34
garnett???????08:34
garnetthow are youuuu08:35
garnettabsenth08:35
garnettheyyyyyyyyyy08:35
SeveasAbsenth, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-1208:35
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BollocksMacenzieI'm trying to find out if it's possible to boot grub with windows xp & 98 on 1 partitioned hdd and linux on the other. Is it possible?08:35
Seveasgarnett, please don't come in here if you come just to annoy people, this is the thirdt time today08:35
SeveasBollocksMacenzie, it is08:35
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AbsenthThanks Seveas08:36
BollocksMacenzieIt's just I've tried to before and it didn't work! For some reason it couldn't find Windows 98... Does it have to be after a sertain sector?08:36
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jcd1006everytime i try to change preferences in firefox it gives me errors along with now when i try to pri08:36
jcd1006nt it does the same thing08:37
jcd1006and it won't print08:37
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Absenthedubuntu looks great.08:37
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=== Absenth cheers for LTSP
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aimazi changed my repository to breezy, if i notice a problem where should i report it?08:39
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BollocksMacenzieSeveas: Does the Windows 98 partition have to be *before* a certain sector of the drive? I've heard of problems?08:39
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Seveaswindows98 likes to be the first on the drive08:40
Absenthdist-upgrade to breezy in progress.08:40
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BollocksMacenzieSeveas: Well I thought that Windows XP would like to be the first.08:40
SeveasXP can perfectly fine be second08:40
WhiteRabbitXP likes to be 2nd08:41
AbsenthBollocksMacenzie: xp will work anywhere, including the 4th hard drive.  he's right 98 is pretty partial to being first.08:41
environi'm using ubuntu amd64. installed the official ati drivers, seems to work but, as soon as i try to run a gl programm it says: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:41
WhiteRabbitremember the dual boot 98 & XP or 2000 & XP would always go 2nd08:41
environeven though these files exist08:41
WhiteRabbitenviron, I had that problem once but I fixed it08:42
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BollocksMacenzieWhich partition would be better for each?08:42
WhiteRabbitenviron, but my fix takes about a hour to do08:42
environwhat did you do? :) nvm08:42
WhiteRabbitenviron, went to bestbuy & purchased a nvidia card ;)~08:42
AbsenthSeveas: so the items moved to Deferred, aren't going to make it into Breezy?08:42
SeveasAbsenth, correct08:43
environgood choice... but live isnt that easy on a laptop system ^^08:43
Absenthit's too bad Xen got bumped.  oh well, maybe next time.  :)08:43
WhiteRabbitenviron, talk about a pickle08:43
BollocksMacenzieI know that you have to install XP after 98 for XP to find it but was wondering which partition would be better for 98?08:43
environwhy does it say file not found? the file is on my hard drive...08:43
WhiteRabbitenviron, Well if you have the money & time we can find a way to trade out the ati for a nvidia lol08:44
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environgg08:44
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afaikhi... is there a way I can replace all occurance of 'foo' in every file in a dir with 'bar'?08:45
afaikrecursively?08:45
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Hoxzer^:)08:45
Seveasafaik, find . -exec sed -e 's/foo/bar/' -i \{\} \;08:46
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Seveasthat does it for the current dir08:46
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=== bur[n] er really needs to learn sed
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=== Absenth also needs to learn sed
aimazlearn awk too08:49
Absenththe mud I used to code on had "sar" tools08:49
aimazsed+awk = winner08:49
Seveasawk is awksome08:49
aimazhaha08:49
AbsenthI actually have the sed awk book from O'Relliy at home.08:49
bediis breezy's X broken ?08:49
Seveaseh, awesome08:49
aimazAbsenth, that's a great book08:49
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bediit was broken some months ago O_o08:50
Absenthaimaz: I started with my "Using csh & tcsh" book.  haven't gotten to sed/awk yet08:50
DVSoftwarebedi: nope08:50
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Absenthbedi: I did an upgrade to breezy over the weekened, and it appears to work.  at least on my hardware.  This is however subject to change hour by hour I'm told.08:50
DVSoftware[ OS: ]  testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic | XOrg: X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-56 20050901064618 root@yellow.warthogs.hbd.com)  | KVirc: 3.2.0.99 | Desktop KDE08:50
AbsenthI'm currently upgrading my VMWare virtual machine to breezy as I type this.08:50
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bedihum08:51
wipsI cant receive files in MSN, is there a firewall or something like that I have to turn off?08:51
WhiteRabbitnow you to will know first hand why they call it Badger ;D08:51
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shawarmaAbsenth: I have a rule when doing that: I put on "Welcome to the jungle" with Guns'n'Roses. Very fitting for that kind of situation. :-)08:52
WhiteRabbitHakis, you just need to edit iptables08:52
bedimy 64bit cd is comming from chipit08:52
Absenthshawarma: for upgrading from Stable, to unstable?08:52
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HakisWhiteRabbit, oh ^^08:52
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shawarmaAbsenth: Yup.08:52
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HakisWhiteRabbit, where can I find that?08:52
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Absenthshawarma: I cloned my hoary install, and am upgrading the clone.08:53
shawarmaAbsenth: I even put it on repeat. It gets quite annoying if your internet connection is limited and you have to fetch 600 MB of new packages.08:53
WhiteRabbitHakis, you need to open ports 6891-6900 TCP to allow msn tranfers08:53
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neri_i have that line in fstab and i can unlock the files08:53
neri_/dev/hda1       /media/discontfs ntfs   rw,auto,exec,umask=0777,fmask=111,dmask$08:53
WhiteRabbitHakis, that'll give you a max of 10 concurrent transfers at one time max08:53
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shawarmaAbsenth: Oh, ok. I just did the upgrade on my regular system. It keeps me on my toes.08:53
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Absenthshawarma: I have 18gb set aside for linux on this system,  Still debating which distro I'm going to install08:54
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HakisWhiteRabbit, ok, but where can I do this?08:54
Absenthleaning towards Gentoo 2005.1 but I'm not convinced yet.08:54
WhiteRabbitHakis, Hrm You should try firestarter until you get used to iptables or you can really get your hands dirty08:54
bur[n] erleaning to gentoo?  bleh08:54
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shawarmaAbsenth: In my experience, Ubuntu sells itself. When you see everything just work, you're sold. I was.08:55
HakisWhiteRabbit, ...where's firestarter? :P08:55
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Absenthshawarma: I've been using Ubuntu since a bit before Hoary moved to stable.08:56
Absenthshawarma: first distro to pull me away from the RedHat / ForsakenCore way of doing things.08:57
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WhiteRabbitHakis, http://www.fs-security.com/screenshots.php  --    apt-get install firestarter08:57
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da_bon_bonhi all.. whats dns relay ? and what happens if i disable it from my router config ?08:57
shawarmaAbsenth: It was the first distro to pull me away from Debian. I never thought I'd abandon Debian, though I've never looked back. :-D08:57
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Absenthshawarma: most the local LUG are debian folks.08:58
Absenthalthough 4 or 5 of them work for Progeny Linux systems.08:59
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Absenththey all run Progeny08:59
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Seveas<Absenth> shawarma: first distro to pull me away from the RedHat / ForsakenCore way of doing things.09:00
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SeveasThe correct name is Fedora Coredump09:00
xulinhi !09:00
Seveas</rant>09:00
WhiteRabbitAbsenth, of course they would just as Ian does09:00
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xulinis there any locate front end ?09:00
endy_xxulin, xterm :P09:00
nalioth_zZzSeveas: no mention of "redhat hell?09:01
nalioth_zZztsk tsk09:01
xulincaus it's fun to have a updatedb evryday .. better to user it easaly by a newbies :s09:01
AbsenthSeveas: I figure being forsaken, probibly leads to core dumps :)09:01
Seveas:))09:01
Absenthand it's Dead Rat around these parts.09:01
SeveasCrap Hat is also heard a lot09:01
endy_xxulin, you can add it to cron09:01
xulinendy_x, add a front end to locate in a cron o_O ?09:02
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DVSoftwarexulin: no09:02
DVSoftwareupdatedb in cron09:02
endy_xxulin, sorry i thought you mean you don't like the way you have to updatedb often09:02
endy_xignore me09:02
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xulinwell .. just say that cauz newbies say me .. "why my computer search things on the hard disk at the first boot" ..09:03
nalioth_zZzxulin: endy_x updatedb is in the system cron already09:04
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xulinof course a say updatedb and locate .. and .. the ? how use it with an interface better tham xterm :s ..09:04
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xulinnalioth i know ^ ..09:04
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Seveasxulin, breezy will introduce beagle09:05
Seveasthat will make me ditch slocate :)09:05
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naliothgood dog09:05
Absenthok, this is a good quote.09:05
AbsenthRedHat: proving, no matter how cool the product, a company founded by a sales-guy will always turn into a smoldering stinking trash pile of suck09:05
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HakisWhiteRabbit, It cant find the package09:06
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WhiteRabbitHakis, Your machine has the curse of the shadow then!09:07
Hakis:(09:07
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WhiteRabbitHakis, you need to access the multiverse I feel09:08
nalioth!tell hakis about sources09:08
No1VikingHow would I do to get this box to act like a gateway,to have two NIC? One NIC goes to the Internet and the other goes to the local LAN?09:08
naliothNo1Viking: iptables09:08
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naliothNo1Viking: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13009:09
No1VikingOK?09:09
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Hakishuh09:09
No1VikingThanks nalioth, gonna read some now!  :)09:10
Hakishmm :(09:10
DVSoftwareHakis:09:10
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DVSoftware!repositories09:10
ubotu[repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:10
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HakisDVSoftware, ?09:10
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HakisDVSoftware, : oh09:11
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NapasikAnyone have a script or program where u see the CPU temp, load, memory load etc09:11
DVSoftwareNapasik: lmsensors09:12
Napasikthank09:12
Napasiks09:12
DVSoftwarembmon is good, too09:12
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shinuwhy doesnt xmms want to play an audio cd for me?09:15
shinui told it to play /cdrom and there is no sound09:15
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shinuthough it can see the tracks09:15
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Alex_BOHello!I've a problem with Gnome CD-DVD Burner.I have some tarballs to burn into a DVD-RW: I move them to CD-DVD Burner window, i press burn DVD and it says "The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image".Why?How can I burn?09:16
darkheartshinu Did you mount it? If so, don't.09:16
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WhiteRabbitshinu, you need a audio cable from your snd card to the drive09:16
Seveasshinu: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound09:16
shinusee09:16
shinuWhiteRabbit: im on laptop09:16
shinuok09:16
WhiteRabbitchange the players audio codexs09:16
shinuill have a look right away09:16
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shawarmaOh, by the way.. I have a pcmcia NIC that uses ndiswrappers.. How do I make sure it is autoconfigured when plugged it?09:17
shawarmaplugged in, i mean.09:17
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SPERMITEdoes any one one a link to get a ut2003 installer i cant find one anywhere09:18
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WhiteRabbitSPERMITE, the demo?09:18
OculusAquilaeSPERMITE: isn't it on the cd?09:18
WhiteRabbitSPERMITE, or you own the Retail version if so the linux installer is on the CD09:18
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OculusAquilaeSPERMITE: or do you mean something like this: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=7009:19
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SPERMITEOculusAquilae yess  = )09:20
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NapasikWhats the command for installing deb files, sobu kptg-something ;o09:20
Alex_BOHELLO!I've a problem with Gnome CD-DVD Burner.I have some tarballs to burn into a DVD-RW: I move them to CD-DVD Burner window, i press burn DVD and it says "The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image".Why?How can I burn?09:20
bur[n] erNapasik: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:20
Napasikty :D09:20
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=== bur[n] er shrugs at alex... i only burn cds
nxvlhi09:21
nxvldid someone has upgrade hoary to brezy yet?09:21
nxvlit is safe to do it?09:21
naliothAlex_BO: have you tried using k3b?09:21
BollocksMacenzieOne thing I wanted to ask which I forgot to ask earlier... Just incase anyone knows. Will Windows 98SE run alright with 1024MB of RAM installed, because it's supposed to not like it when installing.09:21
crimsunnxvl: it's safe09:21
nxvlor my system may crash?09:21
bur[n] erAlex_BO: or graveman or gnomebaker?09:22
nxvlok thnx09:22
nxvlthere is some list with the breezy packages?09:22
crimsunpackages.ubuntu.com09:22
shawarmaHow do I make sure a PCMCIA card is configured when I plug it in?09:22
shinui changed my audio output plug in to esound in xmms but i still cant hear anything...09:23
Alex_BObur[n] er, nalioth: with k3b it makes an error: input/output error after burning (very strange...). graveman or gnomebaker?i haven't ever heard.can i download the packages?09:23
crimsunshinu: cat /proc/asound/cards09:23
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[A] ndy80hi09:23
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Snarksalut09:24
[A] ndy80one strange thing: I left my notebook for 1-2 hours without using it... is it possible that ubuntu froze it or suspended automatically?09:24
bur[n] erAlex_BO: definately download them... they're gtk based apps for cd burning09:24
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bur[n] ercd/dvd that is09:24
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shinucrimsun: and then?09:24
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ian[A] ndy80: plugged in?09:24
[A] ndy80the problem is that I found black screen... tried to resume but no success :( I restarted again and I got  alor of errors09:25
naliothAlex_BO: are the disks k3b makes good?09:25
[A] ndy80I had to power off again and to boot again09:25
funkyHatis there a program i can use to rip a CD to mp3 files?09:25
ian[A] ndy80: what errors09:25
crimsunshinu: I can't help you if you don't tell me the output09:25
[A] ndy80yes it's plugged to power09:25
shawarmafunkyHat: soundjuicer, abcde, grip09:25
funkyHatsound juicer only seems to want to use ogg or flac09:25
[A] ndy80could not read09:25
shawarmafunkyHat: Oh. abcde then09:25
[A] ndy80they scrolled too fast09:25
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bur[n] erfunkyHat: i use grip :)09:25
shinucrimsun: sorry ^^'09:25
shinu0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH409:25
shinu                     Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with unknown codec at 0xe0100c00, irq 1109:25
bur[n] ersoundjuicer kinda blows at this point09:26
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crimsunshinu: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:26
shinuok09:26
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Kvarkhow do you make a shell script figure out what the current directory is?09:27
crimsunthe current dir is `pwd`09:27
ianKvark: pwd ?09:27
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naliothKvark: put ./ in front of what you want to run09:27
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jjazzian:  Path to Working Directory = pwd09:27
Kvarkcool, thanks09:27
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funkyHatshawarma, does abcde have a GUI?09:28
Lunar_Lamphmm, i want to install abiword, however when i open synaptic up there are 7 packages listed - how do i know which ones i need? i am running it on a low spec system, so don't want more than i will need.  (running kfce not gnome)09:28
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bur[n] erpwd == print working directory I thought?09:28
Doonzhey can anyone recomend a program for keeping 2 folders one on a linux box the other on a win 2k3 server box synced?09:28
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Kvarki thought pwd = password09:29
bur[n] erDoonz: rsync?09:29
lolzkNew problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure... :'(09:29
bur[n] erDoonz: or use syncback on the windows box09:29
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Kvarkacronyms and abbrevations are confusing09:29
ianLunar_Lamp: I think just 'abiword' and 'abiword-common'09:29
poningruanything in linux that can interface with itunes protocol?09:30
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ianponingru: which one?09:30
puffHm...09:30
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Lunar_Lampthanks a lot ian09:30
t3abaghey guys ive got a small problem09:30
poningruian: something that allows me to play the music in other peoples computers09:30
t3abagcan someone help me out?09:30
ianponingru: rhythmbox can now share music with itunes09:30
poningruit can?09:30
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puffWhen I plug in my usb drive, a GUI folder pops up.  How do I find the corresponding path from the shell?09:30
Snarkdoes the following error message tell something to anyone: (gnumeric:10172): GnomePrint-WARNING **: Problem while creating filter from 'GnomePrintFilterFrgba': filter 'GnomePrintFilterFrgba' is unknown09:30
Snark?09:30
poningrudo I have to compile it myself?09:31
CarlFKbreezy install, resize ntfs part "reading all physical volumes.  this may take a while"  - anyone know if 5min is more than "a while"?09:31
ianponingru: the CVS version, I think09:31
Sly-College[uff /media/*09:31
naliothponingru: that question is leading to #ubuntu-offtopic09:31
shinucrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/202109:31
puffSly-College: thanks.09:31
Rockett18puff> it should be /media/whatever flash drive is called09:31
matthew_wAnyone know why Enemy Territory gives me a black screen when I start it09:31
Sly-Collegeyour usb stick should be seen under there :)09:31
t3abagis anyone willing to help me?09:31
matthew_wand then I have to restart x?09:31
NoUset3abag we might be able to help if you'd ask your quesiton09:31
naliothponingru: itunes music (downloaded) is DRMd09:31
poningrunalioth: dont worry I know how to download from cvs/ compile stuff09:31
poningrunalioth: I know I dont download DRMd music09:31
NapasikHmm, I tried to install mbmon, but I get a error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. Please check that your locale settings are supported and installed on your system. Any ideas ?09:31
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reiki_workI haven't really looked into this too much... but can RhythmBox rip CDs to mp3?09:32
naliothponingru: ah, then drive on with the music player of your choice09:32
t3abagNoUse: i put my dns in /etc/resolv.conf but it changes back after 10 minutes09:32
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dalamaryou cam use more than itunes downloaded music in the program so its far from offtopic09:32
Seveasreiki_work, try soundjuicer for that09:32
Jefishow to change gnome(gkt) icons sets without having gnome? that apps like xchat running on kde look more "sexy" :-)09:32
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NoUset3abag thats because resolv.conf is getting set by your DHCP server09:32
reiki_workSeveas: ok thanks... pity I wasted money buying songs from iTunes... they are NOT easy to convert09:32
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t3abagNoUse: how can i fix this? i remember there was a script i had to comment out09:32
lolzkok, I double checked this password loads when I changed it in system -> Users and groups, but still, doing su and using the same password fails. Is there a default root pass I can try, becuase I really need to get into root :\09:33
matthew_wAny ideas?09:33
naliothdalamar: i was referrin to DRMd music being o/t09:33
poningruthanks ian09:33
funkyHatJefis, install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt09:33
NoUset3abag do you have control over the DHCP server?09:33
dalamari know09:33
puffSeveas: Where does soundjuicer stick ripped files?09:33
t3abagNoUse: yea09:33
ianponingru: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/uraeus/2005/09/06/009:33
JefisfunkyHat, i have gtk-qt-engine09:33
Alex_BObur[n] er, it seems work.if it works, i will love you09:33
NoUset3abag add the DNS you want to the DHCP schema09:33
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ianponingru: only two days ago!09:33
Jefisbut i want to change icons!, style i have allready changed09:33
Alex_BOnalioth,yes: they are pretty good09:33
Kvarkt3abag: how is anyone supposed to know that before you ask your question?09:33
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Kvarkuups, ignore me09:34
Quinthiusreiki_work: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and the section on AAC / iTunes?09:34
t3abagNoUse: how do i do that?09:34
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NapasikAnyone have a idea what to do with my problem ?09:34
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poningruian:awesome09:34
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floehi all09:34
poningruNapasik: whats wrong?09:34
t3abagKvark: sorry i was being polite and seeing if you guys wanted to help a nix noob like me09:34
NapasikHmm, I tried to install mbmon, but I get a error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. Please check that your locale settings are supported and installed on your system. Any ideas ?09:34
NoUset3abag I don't know what kind of server you have09:34
puffNapasik: Sounds like an internationalization/localization issue.09:35
reiki_workQuinthius: nope... hadn't seen that... looking now09:35
t3abaghmm09:35
floeI did an apt-get dist-upgrade (to breezy) now the at sign isn't working anymore... any ideas?09:35
djm62puff: wherever you specify in Edit->Preferences, in directories by artist/album/09:35
Napasikhm, any solution to it ?09:35
puffNapasik: The error should have listed the locale settings it was trying to set.09:35
poningruNapasik: what locale are you?09:36
poningruno?09:36
djm62I think the default is $HOME, but I quickly changed it to "My Music" for the sake of neatness09:36
puffE.g. language.09:36
Napasikponingru, no idea  = )09:36
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poningruNapasik: what language is your computer on right now?09:36
NapasikNorwegian09:36
puffNapasik: Hm, googling on "Setting locale failed" turned up one suggestion to dpkg-reconfigure locale09:36
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poningruNapasik: try what puff says the problem could be that it doesnt support norwegian09:37
puffman locale09:37
NapasikOkey09:37
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Alex_BObur[n] er, noooo!it doesn't work09:38
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puffNapasik: "locale -a" shows you the list of locales available  on your system.09:38
Pyfaudacity doesn't recognise my audio is there any plugins for it?09:39
Napasikgot a list here09:39
puffNapasik: Also, generally the google hits I'm getting seem to indicate that it's a warning, and that everything should work (though if you have specific locale issues, e.g. you want stuff to show up in italian language/encoding or something, you may still be unhappy)09:39
Pyfgstreamer plugins usually help09:39
puffNapasik: Are you using (or trying to set up) a system for non-US-english users?09:39
NapasikWell09:40
NapasikI just wanted to install mbmon for fun09:40
crimsunshinu: two things: you need to mute IEC958 and Headphone09:40
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reiki_workI need some Supertramp songs.... and I think those are among the CDs my kids lost when tehy were moving stuff09:41
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crimsunshinu: some codecs require you to mute External Amplifier, too09:41
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shinucrimsun: whats iec958?09:41
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reiki_workwrong channel... I hate when that happens09:41
crimsunshinu: the optical output09:41
shinuoh09:41
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shinuok09:41
shinucrimsun: wait a sec, let me try09:42
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Alex_BOHELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible?09:42
puffNapasik: Okay, in that case I strongly suspect you can just ignore that warning - unless it somehow prevented the install from completing?09:42
puffNapasik: Alternatively, I guess you could go over and ask on #perl, or perhaps email the mbmon people.09:42
NapasikIt is, cant continue09:42
NapasikYeah09:42
puffNapasik: Basically, one of three things is the issue.09:43
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shinucrimsun: i dont know why but this iec thing keeps jumping back up09:43
puffa) it's trying to set a locale you don't have support installed for.09:43
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crimsunshinu: all you need to do is mute it09:43
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puffWell, to rephrase, either a) the app (a perl problem) b) the package (a packager problem) or c) your system's support for what the package is asking for (your problem, an ubuntu problem)09:43
brissalut all09:44
NapasikThanks for the help09:44
jaredhaving problems accessing ntfs mounts.09:44
shinucrimsun: from command line?09:44
puffNapasik: If it's C, one possibility is that you need to install the right locale support.09:44
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shinucrimsun: im on xfce and i have this volume control, do i use that?09:44
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NapasikHow ? :S09:44
Napasikor09:44
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SeveasNapasik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales09:44
NapasikHow do i figure out what i need to install ?09:44
crimsunshinu: using any mixer. For instance, amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Headphone' off && amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off09:44
shinuoh09:44
puffNapasik: What Seveas said...09:45
Pyfwhat programs are good for audio editing....?09:45
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Ganooshhey all09:45
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crimsunPyf: editing? audacity's great09:46
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crimsunPyf: or if you like chains, try ecasound09:46
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puffcrimsun: chains?09:46
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meeweeeHi, ive got a question. Ive just installed ubuntu and it worked well until now. When i boot i got a error message telling me that shpchp and pciehp couldnt be found or something. I tought i could boot up with knopix and modify /etc/modules but i cant find thoes names in there.. Anyone that has a good ideea how to solve this?09:46
crimsunpuff: it's clearer if you read the ecasound page09:46
Alex_BOHELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible?09:47
Pyfcrimsun, cant get audacity to work, so will try ecasound09:47
crimsunmeeweee: those are for cpu hotplugging and pci express, respectively. Errors with those modules if you lack that hardware can be disregarded.09:47
NapasikInstallation works now, thanks alot!09:47
jaredhow do i enable read/write permissions for a ntfs mount.09:47
shinucrimsun: anything else i need to do?09:47
crimsunshinu: test sound, of course09:47
puffcrimsun: I don't see anything about chains on http://eca.cx/09:48
meeweeecrimsun, can i disable thoes_09:48
meeweee?09:48
crimsunpuff: ecasound works via "chaining"09:48
meeweeecrimsun, i think thats why i cant boot ubuntu.09:48
naliothjared: writing to ntfs is a good first step to a windows-free existence09:48
shinucrimsun: i tried to play this cd again but it doesnt seem to work...09:48
crimsunpuff: it's probably better to just read the documentation09:48
nalioth!tell jared about ntfs09:48
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crimsunmeeweee: do you have pci express hardware in your computer?09:49
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Ganooshwhen does the install ask what partition to install on, it gives me all these options but it doesn't have like a proceed, i guess after i finish all the options, it will ask?09:49
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crimsunshinu: test using a wav file with aplay09:49
jaredi know what it is. i need to give permissions to that mount in order to view the contents, it mounts perfectly fine. how can i change the ntfs permissions?09:49
meeweeecrimsun, i dont think so... ive got  just a regular sound card on a PCI slot... nothing more.09:49
naliothjared: ubotu loves you, read its msg09:49
crimsunmeeweee: then you can ignore those two modules09:49
xceseshow do you launch gnome from the text prompt09:49
meeweeecrimsun, how?09:49
crimsunmeeweee: just close your eyes09:49
shinucrimsun: i dont have a wave file ^^' can it be mp3?09:49
shinui guess not...09:50
meeweeecrimsun, ive looked in /etc/modules :(09:50
meeweeethey arent there.09:50
crimsunshinu: of course you have wav files, look in /usr/share/sounds09:50
shinuoh ok09:50
shinudidnt know about that09:50
crimsunmeeweee: what does /etc/modules have to do with this?09:50
meeweeecrimsun, sorry.. i dont know.. how do i disable they then?09:50
Determinist!java09:50
ubotujava is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:50
crimsunmeeweee: you don't need to disable anything. Just ignore that message.09:50
meeweeecrimsun, the thing is it halts there... nothing happens after that.09:51
No1VikingAnyone know of where to find instructions howto install and setup a DHCP server?09:51
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crimsunmeeweee: boot with noapic or pci=noacpi09:51
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danlomg... how many options are there when reconfiguring the kernel?09:51
puffcrimsun: Ah, so "if you like chains" is simply using a colloquialism from the audio world.09:51
naliothNo1Viking: www.tldp.org would be one of my first stops (after asking uncle google)09:52
naliothdanl: about a bazillion09:52
crimsunpuff: not really, it's more of an idea09:52
crimsunpuff: similar to thinking of activation records as chains09:52
jaredhaha09:52
jaredthat program sucks09:52
meeweeecrimsun, "noapic" or "pci=noacpi"... is that correct?09:52
[A] ndy80I discovered what the problem was with the freeze!09:52
lakcajxceses, echo "exec gnome-session" > .xinitrc09:52
lakcajxceses, startx09:52
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crimsunmeeweee: correct09:52
blastmahi09:52
jaredubotu is a retard.09:52
ubotujared: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:52
meeweeethanks, i try09:52
[A] ndy80in few words: when screensaver switchoff my display, there's no way to switch on again :(09:53
holy_cow*blink*09:53
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holy_cowhula-manager is in the repositories?09:53
jaredit's not mounting the whole partition, just the first 2Gb.09:53
holy_cow*schwing*09:53
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holy_cowv v nice :)09:53
puffcrimsun: Looks equivalent to software app pipelining, aka the "chain of command" pattern.09:53
jaredev/hdg              2.0G  1.3G  592M  70% /hdg09:53
jared/dev/hdb1              15G   12G  3.8G  76% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb1)09:53
jared/dev/hdb2             5.1G  2.6G  2.5G  51% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb2)09:53
jared/dev/hdb3              92G   82G   11G  90% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb3)09:53
jared/dev/hdg1             112G   84G   29G  75% /media/0 GB Disk (hdg1)09:53
bytefooColony 4 was released today?09:53
crimsunbytefoo: earlier this week09:53
jaredsizes aren't right.09:53
bytefoois it stable enough to upgrade to from hoary?09:53
bytefooi'd like to try gnome 2.12 :X09:54
crimsunbytefoo: download the colony 4 live cd and have at it, then09:54
shinucrimsun: playing .wav using aplay works09:54
shinucrimsun: but when i try with xmms it dumps an error09:54
crimsunshinu: so sound works just fine09:54
bytefooalternatively i could just change my sources correct?09:54
crimsunshinu: pgrep esd09:54
crimsunbytefoo: then update && dist-upgrade, sure.09:54
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shinucrimsun: nothing09:54
bytefooalrighty09:55
unvsso is it "safe" to upgrade now?09:55
unvsor is something broken?09:55
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crimsunshinu: if esd isn't running and XMMS is configured to use esound, that should be a clue09:55
shinualright09:55
crimsunshinu: so you either need to invoke esd, or you need to switch XMMS's output to ALSA or OSS09:55
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shinucrimsun: i killed esd last time cause i couldnt use mplayer09:56
crimsunshinu: mplayer -ao esd foo09:56
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humulusis there any package with more fonts for gimp?09:56
humulusshinu: or edit /etc/mplayer.conf09:56
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naliothhumulus: are the gimp fonts any different from system fonts?09:57
humulusi have no idea about font :?09:58
shinucrimsun: how do i invoke esd?09:58
Bateau_ok, i just installed wine... do i need to do anything ells now? befor i can go ahead and install feks steam or Ventrillo or something ells :P09:58
crimsunshinu: System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup09:58
shinuuh09:58
naliothhumulus: linux uses ttf for its fonts.  any fonts you find, drop em in ~/.fonts09:58
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shinucrimsun: im n xfce... ill have a look09:58
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crimsunshinu: Xfce does not invoke esd for you automatically. You need to switch XMMS's output to ALSA or OSS.09:59
shinucrimsun: ill check again but i think it didnt work with alsa or oss09:59
crimsunat least we didn't configure Xfce to invoke all the GNOME infrastructure when we packaged it.09:59
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InitMasshow do i show desktop icons in gnome?10:01
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shinucrimsun: oss and alsa dont seem to work10:01
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crimsunshinu: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*10:02
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shinucrimsun: xfce-panel and xfce-msc-manager10:03
efemersalut10:04
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efemerest ce qu'il y a un editeur de menu sous gnome svp ?10:04
Sonny_Wertzikhi10:04
Lunar_Lampok, i'm using kfce, and i want to use a usb pen-drive with it, to save work to etc.  how do i do this.  I am completely new to linux, but my understanding was that gnome automounted.  Using kfce i think i may need to manually mount it - how would i do this - and would i need to do any setup first?10:04
efemerj'arrive pas a ya mettre la main dessus10:04
crimsunshinu: ok, those are fine.10:04
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crimsunshinu: if aplay works, ALSA should work with XMMS10:05
danlomg... i went through all the kernel options and it won't compule... God lovesme10:05
Sonny_Wertzikcan someone look up a seeting  in users and computers and tell me what the default is supposed to be?10:05
Sonny_Wertzikgnome10:05
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Seveas!fr10:06
ubotumethinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:06
Seveasah blah, he left...10:06
shinuxD10:06
naliothSeveas: i /noticed him with that info10:06
Seveasgrmbl, you think that is funny?10:06
Seveas /kick shinu10:06
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Seveas:p10:06
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Sonny_Wertzikcan someone look up a seeting  in users and computers and tell me what the default is supposed to be? in gnome....anybody?10:07
danlsonny i can10:07
SeveasSonny_Wertzik, which setting?10:07
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shinuxD10:07
Deterministerm, the bot is bugged10:07
Seveasubotu, you broken10:07
ubotuEep! *crash*10:07
Sonny_Wertzikthanx its users & computers>advanced>pick root tell me what u have 4 default10:08
shinucrimsun: i can play .wav with xmms via alsa but cd doesnt work10:08
shinucrimsun: i checked just in case if my cd was laright and it plays well on my discman10:08
danlim getting a no rule to make target 'init/main.o' error when trying to make the kernel10:08
DocTomoeI have a problem setting up a LAMP System with Breezy (might be PHP5 related...) ... database connection works fine when calling a script frpom the system prompt, but refuses to work when the very same script is loaded with Apache. Any Idea where I can search for the problem?10:08
SeveasSonny_Wertzik, ehat do you mean with 'users and computers'?10:08
crimsunshinu: you have to configure XMMS's cd plugin to use digital audio extraction10:08
DeterministSeveas: cant find sun-j2re1.5 on the default repos... any idea how to get jre installed?10:08
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crimsunshinu: otherwise, try the CD player that comes with GNOME10:09
SeveasDocTomoe, it will help if you give the error10:09
SeveasDeterminist, it's in hoary-extras10:09
shinuok10:09
shinuthat was it10:09
DeterministSeveas: kk10:09
shinucrimsun: youre great! :)10:09
shinucrimsun: it was set to analog by default...10:09
DocTomoeSeveas Its like "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in SCRIPT.php"10:09
Lunar_Lampto enable me to use a usb-drive, i believe i have to edit /etc/fstab - however - i have no idea how to do this.  would someone be so kind as to point me in the correct direction please?10:09
Seveas!tell danl about kernelcompile10:09
Sonny_WertzikSystem>administration>users and groups ...sorry10:09
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Sonny_Wertzikheh im used to win xp hehehe10:09
SeveasDocTomoe, install php5-mysql (or php4-mysql if you use php4) and restart apache210:10
shinucrimsun: may i ask what uses analog?10:10
DocTomoeSeveas: That package is installed, but I prefer apache, not apache2 ... is there a way to get this work in apache1.3.something?10:10
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crimsunshinu: rephrase?10:10
luitehas anyone here succeeded in getting the ati proprietary driver working in breezy? I'm getting a DRI version warning when using the 6.8.x driver, and unresolved symbols when using the 6.9.x driver10:10
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: a usb drive should automount /media/<label of usb drive>10:10
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SeveasSonny_Wertzik, I have no 'advanced' button, are you using breezy perhaps?10:11
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danlafk10:11
Lunar_Lamprobotgeek - i am not using Gnome, i am using kfce - should it stil automount?10:11
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: no10:11
shinucrimsun: the play mode in xmms you told me to set, there is digital audio extraction (you told me to set to) and analog10:11
Lunar_Lamprobotgeek - didn't think so! :-)10:11
Sonny_Wertzikpick root then properties then advanced tab10:11
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: though you might want to try out 'pmount'10:11
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SeveasDocTomoe, no idea actually10:11
SeveasSonny_Wertzik, ahh ok10:11
crimsunshinu: analog is the "historic" method; it relies on a cable connection the audio-out from the cd device to the sound card10:11
Sonny_Wertzikhehe thanx10:11
shinuoh10:12
shinui see10:12
shinuok thanks a lot crimsun ^^10:12
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DocTomoeSeveas ... that's too bad. Thanks :)10:12
Seveasmain group root, shell /bin/bash, home /root10:12
Deterministohh, yay, in the current download rate from mirrormax (hoary-extras) i'll have java installed in 2 days and a bit :)10:12
SeveasDeterminist, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:12
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NightBirdfirst I must fix a friends laptop..10:13
Seveasmsg me a user/pass10:13
Sonny_Wertzikok thanx that helped10:13
Sonny_Wertziki appreciate it!10:13
Lunar_Lamprobotgeek: syntax is pmount device [label]  it says in the manual - but i am so new to linux - that it still doesn't make too much sense to me.  firstly, what options do i need, secondly, what do i enter as "device"?10:13
pittiLunar_Lamp: what do you try to do?10:13
pittiLunar_Lamp: (I'm the pmount author)10:13
Lunar_Lampoooo!10:13
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Lunar_Lamppitti - i just want to use my usb-stick with the laptop running ubuntu10:14
CookedGryphonHas anyone got any experience with winmodems? i installed slmodem on my laptop and it worked twice but no its stopped and i don't know y10:14
pittiLunar_Lamp: and it's not mounted automatically10:14
robotgeekpitti: cool stuff there!10:14
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pitti?10:14
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Lunar_Lamppitti - i don't believe so - i am using kfce not gnome10:14
pittiLunar_Lamp: it's supposed to "just work"10:14
pittiah, ok10:14
codenutIs there anyone here good at modems with Ubuntu?10:14
pittithat explains it :-)10:14
Colloidanyone having problems with sound+flash in firefox? well i jsut updated the wiki describing how to fix that! (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b)10:14
danlok i've a fairly serious error seeing that i have a project due tomorrow, any time i click a pdf to save it or open it in firefox i get a parse syntax error10:14
pittiLunar_Lamp: for a start, just try "pmount /dev/sda1"10:14
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Lunar_Lamppitti - would i expect any kind of "success" message if i am succesful10:15
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codenutDoes Ubuntu only detect hardware well when it is being installed?10:15
pittiLunar_Lamp: no, it follows the Unix philosophy - no news is good news10:15
Lunar_Lampi just typed it in - it seemed to think for a while - but the laptop is so slow it thinks after doing most things ;-)10:15
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pittiLunar_Lamp: check if you have a /media/sda1 with the USB stick's content10:16
CarlFKdanl - what is the URL of a pdf you are clicking on?10:16
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Lunar_Lamppitti - ah, ok - so no message means it should have worked!10:16
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danlhttp://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.html any of those four10:16
pittiLunar_Lamp: yes, it complains if it doesn't work10:16
danlthey work on my roommates ubuntu install10:16
CarlFKdanl - what is the URL of -> a pdf <- you are clicking on?10:16
sn0nhey guys.. this is a silly question.. but its happened 3 times now..  sometimes when i get back from being away... my screen looks distorted (think about a montior doin a resolution not supported, but  you can still see things kinda).. and just changing the resolution fixes it.. any ideas?  its quite random10:16
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Lunar_Lamppitti - it worked - thanks a bunch!10:17
danlhttp://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.1.pdf10:17
DeterministSeveas: you managed to make freenx work yet mate?10:17
danli googled pdf10:17
danli googled pdf's it did it on all them too10:17
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danlxml parsing error: syntax error.10:17
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CarlFKdanl - know how to run commands?10:18
Lunar_Lampis there a way to automate that in future? i know it's no big deal, but hey, if it's easy to do - and i will prob learn more about linux in the process!10:18
danlyes10:18
CarlFKwget http://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.1.pdf10:18
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CarlFKthat should at least get it, which seems to be the problem10:18
gorbekuchuluI am trying to build something from source. as a non-root, how can I add a directory to be searched while checking for include?10:18
bluesceadahm how could i do a cluster with ubuntu ? i just replace the kernel with my own which is patched with openmosix ?10:18
bluesceadaor are there any precompiled ones or such10:18
seatouchhey can anyone tell command to install codecs to play mp3?10:18
nalioth!tell seatouch about restricted10:18
pittiLunar_Lamp: as a short explanation, "/dev/sda1" means "the first partition on the first SCSI device"10:18
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naliothseatouch: ubotu sends love10:19
pittiLunar_Lamp: after plugging in a device, the last lines of "dmesg" will hint you which device it is10:19
Bateau_hmm, i just installed Ventrillo in Wine... and it starts nice and all. it says it cant find the sound codec. any know whats wrong?10:19
SeveasDeterminist, freenx works fine for me10:19
seatouchhehe10:19
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Colloidanyone having problems with sound+flash in firefox? well i jsut updated the wiki describing how to fix that! (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b) SOMEONE PRAISE ME DAMNIT!10:19
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WhiteRabbitfreenx is the nice10:19
Lunar_Lamppitti: dmesg? i get that by typing dmesg into a terminal i assume?10:19
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JairunCalothhow can I make xchat open a link by just clicking on it?10:20
SeveasColloid, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary contains the fix for that10:20
CookedGryphonColloid, well done10:20
Seveas(since a long time ago)10:20
Colloiddamn it.10:20
Colloid;<10:20
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CarlFKdanl - did it get hw1.1.pdf?10:20
danlCarlFX, thanks10:20
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Seveasbut it's a good idea to add it there :)10:20
danlit got all 4 of them10:20
Colloidty (=10:20
danlindividually of course10:21
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pittiLunar_Lamp: yes; it shows the last messages from the kernel10:21
naliothColloid: thought your nick was Colloid not DAMMIT10:21
pittiLunar_Lamp: in Ubuntu with Gnome, you don't have to mess with that, the devices are mounted automatically10:21
CookedGryphoni'm having problems with my laptop, the power management doesn't seem to b supported by ubuntu, so its relaly noisy all the t ime and can get really hot10:21
pittiLunar_Lamp: but if you only have one SCSI device at a time, sda1 will usually work10:21
pittiLunar_Lamp: ... and don't forget "pumount /dev/sda1" before you unplug :-)10:22
Lunar_Lamppitti - i know - but gnome was too slow on my ancient laptop.  when i get around to putting ubuntu on my pc - then i will probably use gnome, and then it won#t be an issue10:22
Lunar_Lampwhat would i happen if i didn't forget?10:22
Lunar_Lamper, didn#t *remember*10:22
Pyfwhen i try and play a file in audacity it says, "Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device settings and the project sample rate"  When i check for an audio device in preferences there isnt one.  I have this problem with most programs and overcome it by setting up a gstreamer or something like that. is that possible for audacity10:22
pittiLunar_Lamp: depends on how recently  you wrote stuff on it10:22
pittiLunar_Lamp: if there are still pending changes to be written on the stick, and you suddenly rip it out, these changes are lost, and your file system can get corrupted10:23
Lunar_Lampeek!10:23
pittiLunar_Lamp: if you just read from it, it's ok, thouhg10:23
Seveass/can/will/10:23
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Lunar_Lampthanks for all the help pitti!10:23
pittiLunar_Lamp: however, proper umounting is a good habit everybody should get used to10:23
pittiLunar_Lamp: you're welcome :-)10:23
Lunar_Lampi've learnt loads in the last 10mins!10:23
Lunar_Lamphehe10:23
Lunar_Lamp(well, loads in comparison to my previous knowledge)10:24
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shinuDVSoftware: the lmsensors you talked about earlier, do they require gdesklets?10:24
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Red_Bulletplease tell me the newest codecs10:24
DVSoftwareshinu: lmsensors is console app10:24
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shinuoh10:24
Seveaspitti, doesn't pmount mount -o sync these days?10:24
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shinuDVSoftware: do i just apg-get install lmsensors?10:25
DVSoftwareyes and then10:25
DVSoftwaresensors-detect10:25
DVSoftwareas root10:25
lolindirhello i'm totally new to ubuntu i can someone help me?10:25
naliothRed_Bullet: what kind of codecs?10:25
SiliconViper(Using Ubuntu 5.04) I have two soundcards. It defaults to one of them, how do I set it to use the other?10:25
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naliothlolindir: ask your question10:25
bluesceadaanyone ever did a cluster with ubuntu ?10:25
SiliconViperI already have the default card set in .asoundrc10:25
Colloidwhen's breezy due?10:26
Red_Bulletnalioth,  what program is the best for video10:26
Seveasbluesceada, I did, mjr has and someone else is working on it10:26
bluesceadaah ok10:26
lolindiri have windows installed to another hard drive. im now trying to mount that to /mnt/windows but it says no medium found10:26
shinuDVSoftware: i think there is no such thing as lmsensors on apt-get10:26
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster has some info10:26
DVSoftwareshinu: maybe lm-sensors10:26
shinuoh10:26
bluesceadaSeveas: what kind of kernel did you use .. just get your own sources in usr/src , etc. ?10:26
DVSoftware!info lm-sensors10:26
ubotulm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB10:26
DVSoftwareyes10:26
bluesceadaor you used some package?10:26
shinuDVSoftware: got it10:26
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Colloidso when's 5.10 due?10:27
Colloidi mean what day in oct?10:27
Red_Bulletwhich program is the best for video ?10:27
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KyralVLC10:27
Red_Bulletvlc for linux ???10:27
Seveasbluesceada, only standard ubuntu stuff (except for a home-grown nis package)10:27
SiliconViperColloid, when it's ready, I'd imagine.10:27
Kyralja ja10:27
nalioth!tell Red_Bullet about restricted10:27
Colloid;<10:27
SeveasColloid, 1310:28
bluesceadaSeveas: how did you do the cluster then ?10:28
kurt!tell kurt about restricted10:28
bluesceadayou did use openmosix .. or what ?10:28
Seveasbluesceada, read that wikipage, it describes it all10:28
poningruquestion why isnt firefox 1.5 being allowed in to breazy?10:28
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bluesceadaah thx sry overread that10:28
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Red_BulletKyral,  give me link for vlc please ?10:28
poningruno one answered it last time I asked10:28
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Red_Bullethow to install vlc to ubuntu10:28
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poningruRed_Bullet: its in the repositories10:28
KyralRed_Bullet, sudo apt-get install vlc10:28
Seveasbluesceada, and it's a beowulf cluster, so no distributed operating system10:28
Red_Bulletk10:29
Red_Bullet10x10:29
robotgeekbluesceada: also take a look at rocks cluster10:29
bluesceadaSeveas: ok ..10:29
Red_BulletE: Couldn't find package vlc10:29
Seveas!info vlc10:29
Red_Bullettheare aren't any package with vlc10:30
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB10:30
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pittiSeveas: not any more since hoary10:31
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SeveasRed_Bullet, there is, enable universe10:31
Seveas!repos10:31
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:31
Red_Bulletbut i'am with kde10:31
Red_Bulletwith10:31
Red_Bulletkynaptic10:31
Red_Bulletno synaptic10:31
djm62is there any way to change gnome input methods via a keyboard shortcut?10:31
Seveaspitti, ah ok, I suppose the changelog shows why :)10:31
poningruwhy is vlc in the universe?10:32
djm62the context menu is a pain when mingling latin and cyrillic script10:32
bluesceadaSeveas: dont know if that was what i wanted .. i wanted a cluster for computing like openmosix .. so it's like smp10:32
poningruI vlc is gpl10:32
Red_Bulleti cant start repository10:32
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jmoesenanyone familiar with postfix and LMTP?10:32
pittiSeveas: yes10:32
NightBirdhm... so I'm trying to do an apt-get update...10:32
bytefoosudo apt-get update10:32
bytefoo:|10:32
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NightBirdhowever I'm getting errors with the hoary universe and multiverse packages10:32
bytefoomaybe you spelled it wrong10:32
NightBirdit says it's Moved or something like that10:32
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NightBirdhttp://archive.ubuntu.com hoaty/universe Packages10:33
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bytefoohoary != hoaty10:33
bytefoo:O10:33
SeveasNightBird, please state the exact error10:33
NightBirder... hoary sorry10:33
Seveasand indeed, hoaty is a typo10:33
Hype-is the release date for berezy set yet ?10:33
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alejandrodellocoI have a query10:33
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Hype-breezy10:33
bytefooi heard oct 14th on some blog :/10:33
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NightBird"Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages 302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.138 89] 10:34
SeveasHype-, Oct. 1310:34
pussfellerlmtp?10:34
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/BreezySchedule10:34
bytefooi don't think ther eis a / in there NightBird10:34
Hype-Seveas: ok, tnx!10:34
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jmoesenpussfeller: local mail transfer protocol; smtp without a mail queue; used for virus/spam scanning etc10:34
pussfellerah, no then10:34
NightBirdin the file it says "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe"10:34
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule <-- that's the correct one10:34
alejandrodellocoI just installed 5.0.4 on a somewhat cannibalized dell box10:34
alejandrodellocoand x can't open a display10:35
alejandrodellocoit reads the monitor and vid card10:35
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NightBirdsince I have an older video card10:35
alejandrodellocoand I have poked at it in terminal mode10:35
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syndis there a fee to sell on ebay?10:35
alejandrodelloco(I can't post a log  because that machine is somewhere else)10:35
jmoesensynd: yes10:35
ilba7rsometimes esd does not release my sound device and i have to kill it manually is there a thread of why and how to correct that?10:35
pussfelleri never could get nvtv to work10:36
alejandrodellocowhat can cause x not to open a display10:36
NightBirdpussfeller, I've tried getting s-video out working under normal nvidia, however I have yet to manage to get it to work properly..10:36
pcharkypussfeller: neither did I, the tuner never even showed in lspci.10:36
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bluesceadahmm10:37
bluesceadaanyone did an opemosix cluster with ubuntu10:37
bluesceadas/opemosix/openmosix10:37
typohoary doesn't seem to want to automatically mount my USB2.0 external disk. The kernel sees it fine, and I can mount it myself, but gnome-volume-manager does nothing apparently10:37
pussfelleryou want my mx400 xorg.conf with tv out nightbird10:37
pcharkyBlueEagle: nope10:37
alejandrodellocoblagh10:38
typomy digital camera is mounted fine though10:38
typobut that's not usb2, could it be that?10:38
alejandrodellocoI am stuck in goddamnned terminal mode here10:38
alejandrodellocogimme a hand10:38
BeFalouI've just installed fglrx but when I play ET it doesn't fit in the screen is uses just a little square, how can i fix it?10:38
alejandrodellocoI want me my X WInders10:38
pcharkyalejandrodelloco: okay, bring it on..10:38
NightBirdpussfeller, hm? oh, what you got it to work with? hm...10:38
alejandrodellocook, X can't open a display10:38
alejandrodellocoit reads the monitor and vid card ok10:39
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alejandrodelloco(it's a fairly old dell, ati card)10:39
pussfellerNightBird: yes the actual config file for the xserver, your mileage may vary but it give you a start10:39
NightBirdsure.... but how would I get it to the computer? just start typing?10:39
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pcharkyalejandrodelloco: did you check the logs? tail -n 50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:39
Seveastypo, can you mount it with pmount as regular user?10:39
alejandrodellocoyeah, I looked at it10:40
pussfelleropen it in an editor and open the old one and paste the parts you need....10:40
typoSeveas: what's the command?10:40
alejandrodellocoand that's how I can tell it read the card and monitor10:40
pcharkyalejandrodelloco: any lines starting with: EE?10:40
alejandrodellocoooh10:40
alejandrodellocoshit10:40
alejandrodellocosee, it was this morning10:40
Seveastypo, first unmount it10:40
alejandrodellocoand I forget10:40
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Seveasand then: pmount /dev/your_usb_disk10:40
alejandrodellocothat computer is behind a firewall and cannot get onto IRC10:40
alejandrodellocosince it is at a school10:40
CarlFKadded a drive to an XP/ntfs box.  installed breezy to the 2nd drive, grub to the mbr of the first.  when I boot I get "grub error 21"  if I boot from a liveCD I can mount hdb1 and cd into boot/grub10:40
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alejandrodellocoI amy check that10:41
NightBirdI can't do dcc10:41
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alejandrodellocowhat I want to know is what are a few possibilities10:41
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typoSeveas: "Error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable"10:41
CarlFKmy guess is grub dosn't know where to look for menu.lst?10:41
NightBirdI'm behind a firewall that keeps me from doing it10:41
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NightBirdand the firewall isn't under my control10:41
Seveastypo, than that's the problem, the device is advertizing itself wrong10:41
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pcharkyalejandrodelloco: you should look for lines contiaining 'EE' in them, they report errors.10:41
typoSeveas: I've used this exact same device in another hoary box10:41
alejandrodellocoaha10:41
Seveaspmount can only mount devices that properly identify themselves as removable10:41
pcharkyalejandrodelloco: ps. without the quotes ;)10:42
pussfellerNightBird: ill put it on my webstie and give you the url10:42
alejandrodellocoI did read a few about the directories being wrong10:42
Seveastypo, if it worked in hoary, you've found a bug -- contact pitti10:42
alejandrodellocolike it didn't read a few of the x dirs10:42
alejandrodellocolike fonts10:42
typoSeveas: but this is hoary as well10:42
Seveastypo, hmm10:42
typoSeveas: So it's probably a kernel bug10:42
Stalwartin ubuntucalendar there is preview release planned today... where is it?10:42
typoSeveas: I have to roll my own, the ubuntu ones don't work10:42
Determinist!backports10:42
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:42
Seveastypo, right...10:42
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typoSeveas: so what should I do? kernel.org bugzilla?10:43
SeveasI'd still suggest contacting pitti -- he wrote pmount and can probably tell you where to look for the error10:43
Seveaslook at the lshal entry for /dev/sda1 for a start10:43
Seveasthat should say is_removable="true" or something like that10:43
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pcharkyalejandrodelloco: is there a possibility you can post it on paste.ubuntulinux.nl?10:44
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typoSeveas: "storage.removable = false"10:45
typoSeveas: strange, it says the same for /dev/hda but this is usb mounted and hal knows that10:46
typoSeveas: do you know where hal gets that removable thing?10:46
Seveasfrom udev10:46
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typoSeveas: From dmesg: "Attached scsi disk"10:47
eliasson_Can somebody be nice to send me /etc/init.d/hotplug?10:47
Seveastypo, see man pmount for the details on this10:47
typoSeveas: and I've seen examples on the web and the message was "Attached scsi removable disk"10:47
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eliasson_i manage to delete it.. :)10:47
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typoSeveas: So I guess the kernel changed behaviour recently10:47
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Seveasdunno10:48
eliasson_anyone :(10:48
Seveaseliasson_, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2022 -o /etc/init.d/hotplug10:48
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Seveaseliasson_, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2022 -O /etc/init.d/hotplug10:49
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Seveasthe O is a capital oh10:49
pcharkyeliasson_: apt-get --reinstall install hotplug10:49
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muszekhello10:50
Seveashi10:50
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muszeka list with users (the one on the right) disappeared in x-chat... and I can't find an option that turns it on... does anyone know what to do?10:51
danlok, it's not just pdf's that don't work in firefox, any download i try causes an error10:51
DrTigerhow can I make a script I wrote have sudo rights, but invokable by average users?10:51
Seveasmuszek, hit <ctrl>i several times10:51
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DrTigerI'd like to automize my network settings for my laptop10:52
Nikobonsoir !!10:52
SeveasDrTiger, you can't10:52
Seveasthat's not possible for script10:52
Nikooupss10:52
DrTigerthats really bad10:52
Nikoexit10:52
typoSeveas: found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg36352.html10:52
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DrTigerat the moment my pppoe config works over "pon dsl-provider"10:53
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typoSeveas: the user said that updating to libsysfs 1.3.0 solved it10:53
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muszekre.....10:53
Seveaspon can be used by any user in the dip group10:53
Seveastypo, ah right10:53
DrTigerI have to enter this command whenever I boot or the network cable gets out10:53
SeveasI knew that10:53
muszekcan anyone please tell me w/o making lame jokes?10:53
Red_Bulletare appear emulator for games NOpay like cedega10:53
Seveas2.6.12 and hoary userland cause this bug10:53
typoSeveas: ok, so what should I do?10:54
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typoSeveas: time to try breezy?10:54
HappyFoolmuszek: have you asked in #xchat ?10:54
Seveastypo, either use a 2.6.10 kernel or move to breezy :)10:54
Seveasmuszek, hit <ctrl>i several times <----10:54
muszeknope10:54
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HappyFoolmuszek: it looks like Seveas has given you a solution anyway (hit ctrl+i a few times)10:54
typohow stable is breezy and how smooth is the upgrade from hoary?10:54
theineHi, which kernel module is responsible for /dev/input/mice? is there a unique one?10:54
Seveasit's not 100% stable10:54
muszekeh... cya10:54
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kurttypo: it's a little bit of a pain.10:54
Quinthiushmm, do indexes/bookmarks not work in evince?10:55
Seveaswhen it is, the upgrade will be smooth10:55
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typokurt: Seveas: thanks, I might do it when I have more time10:55
kurtmost of the problems I experienced with the upgrade had to do with xorg.10:55
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GregAscheis there a way to make links clickable in the gnome terminal?10:55
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theineI debootstrapped breezy and for some reason, /dev/input/mice is missing...10:56
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KyralGregAsche, that hurts my head10:56
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DrTigerhow can I add myself to the "dip" group?10:56
GregAschewhat do you mean Kyral?10:56
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hussamwill the breezy preview release be out today?10:56
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DrTigerit's not present in the dialog from gnome, but I can't create that group since it exists already10:56
KyralYou just asked if you can click links in a text mode browser10:56
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GregAschei want to make it so that I can double click URLs that show up in the terminal and have them open in firefox10:56
theineDrTiger: sudo adduser <user> <group>10:57
HappyFooltry 'sudo adduser DrTiger dip'10:57
GregAschesorry, my first question was confusing10:57
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KyralURLS shouldn't be showing up in the term10:57
pittitypo: sorry, was at the phone. Can you please open a bug about this and do the steps on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices?10:57
naliothGregAsche: i have an answer for you10:57
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Kyralunless you are using a console IRC Client10:57
GregAschei am10:57
DrTigerI'm already member of that group but I still can't call pon10:57
naliothGregAsche: install links2 and run it with "links -g" and you can click links in the gnome terminal (in more ways than one)10:57
Kyrallol, sorry10:57
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GregAschei asked in there channel, they said that I would have to find a terminal plugin10:57
theineDrTiger: you might have to log out and in again10:58
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Seveaspitti, it is not a bug but a known incompatibility between hoary and 2.6.12 kernels10:58
DrTigerI have always been in that group10:58
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pittiSeveas: uh, hoary+2.6.12? that is likely to fail, yes10:58
HappyFoolDrTiger: what error do you get from the pon?10:58
HappyFoolDrTiger: don't paste more than two lines in #ubuntu10:58
pittiSeveas: I didn't follow the discussion10:58
typopitti: It's a problem with kernels > 2.6.11 and hoary userspace10:59
Seveaspitti, so you can relax, it's not something you have to fix ;)10:59
TrebzCan anyone point me to a good nvidia twinview howto?  I've looked everywhere and I still can't get both my monitors working :-(10:59
typopitti: pmount thinks it's not removable apparently10:59
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pittitypo: why don't you use the hoary kernel?11:00
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pittitypo: s/pmount/the kernel/, pmount just reads it from sysfs11:00
ChadzaWhat's the command to reset X?11:00
Seveastypo, that's because libsysfs tells that it isn't ;)11:00
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SeveasChadza, <ctrl><alt><bksp>11:00
typopitti: doesn't work on my system11:00
vipacaI am a gentoo user I have used redhat and I didn't like the bloat however I am looking for a little more than gentoo minimal install what does ubuntu have to offer?11:00
ChadzaI remember that one, I mean the dpkg-reconfigure xsomething one.11:00
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typoSeveas: yes, and it isn't. In the kernel removable means stuff like floppy's or zip disks. It's different from hot-pluggable11:01
pittitypo: hm, you should use Breezy in the first place then - grab the preview image while it is still hot :-)11:01
crispynix-v6Is breezy going to get amarok 1.3 before release?11:01
Seveasxserver-xorg and not xsomething :)11:01
pittitypo: it was released some minutes ago11:01
theineChadza: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:01
Seveascrispynix-v6, no11:01
ChadzaYou are one again my hero.11:01
adaptis there a ppc specific channel?11:01
GregAschenalioth: links -g doesn't work11:01
crispynix-v6Seveas: why not?11:01
theineChadza: but that does what it does, it reconfigures11:01
Seveasbecause breezy is in feature freeze already11:01
crispynix-v6Seveas: gaim 1.5 and gnome 2.12 went in11:01
naliothGregAsche: did you install links2 ?11:01
crispynix-v6Seveas: so obviously not so frozen11:02
GregAschenalioth: yes11:02
Seveasgaim 1.5 was released before feature freeze and gnome is the one exception to the freeze11:02
typopitti: yeah, I should try to see if the bug is fixed. Pretty annoying. All the ubuntu kernels fail to boot with ACPI on. Never seen it before in any other kernels. But noone seemed to care about the bug.11:02
GregAscheUnknown option -g11:02
crispynix-v6Seveas: ah.11:02
naliothGregAsche: hmm, interesting11:02
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crispynix-v6Seveas: well, will the long-standing bugs in KDE be fixed before breezy is released at least?11:02
crispynix-v6Seveas: ubuntu's kde, that is11:02
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Doonzcan you guys recomend a good site with resunme templates for open office?11:03
Seveascrispynix-v6, from now until release the only thing that developers do id fixing bugs11:03
Riddellcrispynix-v6: which bug?11:03
kemikbreezy will use gnome 2.12 right ?11:03
crispynix-v6Seveas: well, I hope they manage to fix a few bugs that have been around for months now. Kaffeine crashing on exit, kcmshell keyboard showing up blank, etc.11:03
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typopitti: this was what I found: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg36352.html11:03
kurtkemik: yes.11:04
Seveascrispynix-v6, ask on #kubuntu, the main ubuntu KDE devs hang out there11:04
naliothGregAsche: if you'd like to compile it with graphics and javascipt capabilities, grab it from here http://links.twibright.com/  , run ./configure --help  , enable the things you want and drive on11:04
crispynix-v6Riddell: those and sometimes kicker crashes right before the X session shuts down11:04
kurt2.12 is in it now.11:04
TrebzWhy does Ubuntu keep changing my BIOS clock an hour backwards??11:04
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kemiksweet11:04
kemikbreezy will be a niice update11:04
kurtMaybe, maybe not.11:04
Riddellcrispynix-v6: actually kaffeine crashes all the time now but that's a priority to look at11:04
Riddellcrispynix-v6: kcmshell keyboard works for me11:04
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crispynix-v6Riddell: hm, comes up blank here. kaffeine only crahses on exit for me, never otherwise.11:05
crispynix-v6the keyboard thing might be a bug with my inst then (came from debian)11:05
pinucsethi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...11:05
Riddellpinucset: you need to set the session to kde11:05
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pinucsetyes11:05
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pinucseti've done startup by kde for default11:06
pinucsethe starts with kde and then goes to gnome11:06
Dr_Netwhy can i not acces wpasupplicant by apt-get?11:06
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SeveasDr_Net, you can11:07
HappyFoolDr_Net: have you setup your network repositories? and what architecture are you on ? (x86/amd64/ppc)11:07
pinucsethi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...11:07
Seveas!info wpasupplicant11:07
TrebzNobody knows why Ubuntu is changing my bios clock then?  Reckon it was somthing to do with when I picked UTC or whatever during install...where can I change that?11:07
ubotuwpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 376 kB11:07
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SeveasDr_Net, enable universe11:07
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OctaxHello!11:08
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Dr_Neti've x8611:08
Octaxhow do i install programs with ubuntu?11:08
Dr_Netwhere can i look up what files are available in different repositories?11:08
adaptoctax, read11:08
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pinucsetapt-get :)11:08
HappyFoolwpasupplicant is available for all architectures anyway; follow Seveas advice11:08
Dr_Netif my laptop is not online11:08
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Dr_Net!info wpasupplicant11:09
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ubotuwpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 376 kB11:09
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HappyFoolDr_Net: packages.ubuntu.com, or use 'apt-cache policy <packagename>'11:09
Octax?11:09
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adaptoctax that information has been written 1002148u58128512 times. just search google.11:09
HappyFoolOctax: using a program called synaptic11:09
Octaxok11:10
HappyFool!tell Octax abotu synaptic11:10
HappyFoolhmm11:10
HappyFooloh, oops11:10
Octaxlol11:10
HappyFool!tell Octax about synaptic11:10
pinucset!tell pinucset about synaptic11:10
HappyFoolOctax: read that webpage, it should help11:10
pinucsettest11:10
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Seveasadapt, that's not the policy in here, just help the person11:10
Octaxcool thanks happyfool.11:10
Dr_Neti got synaptcics work but my university uses wpa so i need wpa support as well ^^11:10
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SeveasDr_Net, then install wpasupplicant..11:11
Dr_Neti'm trying to, but getting an error message while compiling it11:11
HappyFoolcompiling?11:11
HappyFooltsk tsk11:11
Dr_Neti d/l the source though11:11
Seveasyou don't need to compile it11:11
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HappyFoolDr_Net: have you enabled the universe repository ?11:12
Seveasinstall it from synaptic11:12
Dr_Netneed to try from rasparitory11:12
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Octaxso if i download a program from the internet i can use synaptic to install it correct?11:12
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HappyFoolOctax: no, synaptic does the downloading too11:12
HappyFoolOctax: what software do you want to install?11:12
pinucsetif its a tar.gz. isnt necessary, you only have to decompress :)11:12
Xanaduhello everyone11:13
Octaxzsnes11:13
Dr_Neti've two machines : desktop and latpot, so trying to get it working on laptop which doesnt have internet access yet11:13
theine!info zsnes11:13
ubotuzsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB11:13
HappyFoolOctax: you can install zsnes using synaptic if you enable the 'multiverse' repository11:13
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HappyFool!tell Octax about repos11:13
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pinucsethi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...11:15
kurtpinucset: the sessions option11:15
kurtand select KE11:15
kurtKDE11:15
pinucsetof course11:16
pinucsetthanks!11:16
pinucset:D11:16
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Octax!11:16
ubotuOctax: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:16
Octaxyeah11:17
h17m4nQuestion: How do I access my windows SharedDocs folder?11:17
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pinucsetdo you know if there are some ubuntu tshirts for supporting them? :)11:17
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Seveash17m4n, system -> connect to server11:17
Seveaspinucset, yes there are11:17
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pinucsetwhere can i buy them seveas?11:18
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CookedGryphonplease help me someone! :(11:18
CookedGryphoni can't get my laptop modem to work11:18
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: is it a winmodem?11:18
CookedGryphonyes11:18
CookedGryphoni got it to work once with slmodem11:18
Seveashttp://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/11:18
CookedGryphonthen it stopped and i don't know y11:19
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Seveasyou can get ubuntu underwear too :)11:19
pinucsetlol!!! xD11:19
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: hmm. ok, i'm not familiar with slmodem, but this page is where i'd start: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/11:19
pinucsetthe girls will want to fuck me at all xDDD11:19
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CookedGryphonHappyFool, i've been there11:19
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CookedGryphonTell you what might help!11:20
reikiubotu tell reiki about restricted formats11:20
HappyFooltry just 'restricted'11:20
CookedGryphoni am using the modem applet in gnome to dial up at the moment, how do i set up somethign to give me more feedback to see where in the connection it is failing?11:20
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Dr_Nethow do i install wpa from downloaded .deb file?11:20
SeveasDr_Net, use synaptic to install it from the repositories11:21
Seveasdon't just download debs manually11:21
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: look in /var/log/messages11:21
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Dr_NetSeveas, thx11:21
Dr_NetSeveas, my laptop is not connected11:21
CookedGryphonkk11:21
Dr_Neti'm trying to go wireless11:21
SeveasDr_Net, ah ok11:21
Dr_Netcan i still do it from debs?11:22
Seveassudo dpkg -i wpasupplicant*.deb11:22
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CookedGryphonaha, failed ( NO CARRIER )11:22
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wh0rdhi11:23
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CookedGryphonalso some stuff about apm being overridden by ACPI...11:23
TrebzI just started using gaim and it's now telling me there is a newer version, looking on their site, i see a new version, but they have rpm, source rpm, source bz and exe....which one can i install on Ubuntu?11:24
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CookedGryphonhmm, my power management int so good on my laptop could that b summat to do with it11:24
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HappyFoolCookedGryphon: is the line working?11:24
wh0rdi wonder if anyone can help me, i'm trying to write a script that would simple set acpi value maximum brightness if it's 0 or 0 if it's maximum bright11:24
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: connect a phone and check for dialtone11:24
CookedGryphonHappyFool, i'm using the same line and ISP and everything now on a different computer11:25
wh0rdi tried grep to retrive the /proc/acpi/sony/brt but it gave me weird results11:25
wh0rdany hints?11:25
CookedGryphonTrebz, you could install the rpm or bz, but may b better off waiting for it to be put in the ubuntu repositories and then usung apt-get11:26
CookedGryphonusing*11:26
Trebzok, cool with that....what is the reason for waiting?11:26
Trebz(sorry if that's a daft Q)11:26
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seatouchhey11:26
SeveasTrebz, in a month breezy will be released with gaim 1.5 included11:26
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: afaik NO CARRIER means the modem thinks the line is dead (I may be wrong)11:26
seatouchanyone know which plugins to install to play vob ( dvd's ) files11:26
seatouch??11:27
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sn0nhmmm... this would be a fun way to learn some crap...11:27
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BSG75hola11:27
CookedGryphonseatouch, try installing all the gstreamer packages11:27
TrebzHope the next version will better support BOTH my monitors....still having to boot into XP for work as can't get both screens to work in Ubuntu :-(11:27
seatouchCookedGryphon, ive installed them but still cant play11:27
CookedGryphonwhat error message r u getting?11:28
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HappyFool!tell seatouch about restricted11:28
BSG75I need to use alsa .. I don't want esd at all .. is there a way to get rid of it without effecting sound in gnome?11:28
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capoeiraHi, anybody know how bad my system is going to break if I dist-upgrade to breezy?11:28
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xeirohello all11:28
CookedGryphoni want to kno that too, will it keep all my gnome setting s n things?11:28
BergcubeNO CARRIER means no dial tone.11:28
reikiis it unusual for packages from Hoary Extras to not be authenticated?11:29
seatouchHappyFool, There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrecorder/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_3.VOB", you might need to install the corresponding plugins11:29
hussamcapoeira: same here. will anything big like kernel or x break?11:29
SuperTails92reiki: Not really.11:29
BSG75I find the xine working much better than gstream11:29
HappyFoolseatouch: please read the restrictedformats page on the wiki (ubotu should have sent you the link); that will tell you what you need to install11:29
reikiok... I'm looking at gstreamer stuff mostly11:29
CookedGryphonNO CARRIER may not mean that with my winmodem tho.. it may jstu not b detecting it...11:29
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xeiroanyone know how I can start a program on a vt and direct the output to the GUI?11:30
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BSG75anyone done ALSA work with gnome? I need to stop esd11:30
HaroldJohnsonWhere's nalioth?  We have a showdown at noon.11:31
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xeirowhat kind of showdown?11:31
xeiro:)11:31
CookedGryphonBSG75, try sudo killall esd then search for esd in synaptic and say mark for removal11:31
BergcubeCookedGryphon~ The moden control codes and feedback messages are very standardized in this day and age.  The difference between no dial tone (Bo carrier) and a dead line is significat in some situations, as some PBXs don't give any dial tone until you press 0 on the phone.  Are you able to send and get messages from it in the terminal window?11:32
BSG75CookedGrypho: I killed esd .. I will uninstall it too11:32
TwiggyIs there a repo that I could find hoary builds of Xorg CVS?11:32
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HaroldJohnsonNalioth has been causing trouble...11:32
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HaroldJohnson...so we have a High Noon.11:32
CookedGryphonBergcube, i jstu use the gnome modem applet to dial, so i don't know11:32
TrebzDoes anyone here have dual displays working with an nvidia card?11:33
MaikeruTo associate with a network from command line what do I do?11:33
HaroldJohnson(No, we're not 'getting high' at noon...)11:33
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CookedGryphonBergcube, and i have to run a daemon to make it work at all, cos its a winmodem11:33
MaikeruI did iwconfig ath0 <info>11:33
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Maikerubut it's like it doesn't connect to the network11:33
seatouchHappyFool, ive insalled the libdvdcss2 from /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh still it i cant play .vob files11:33
HaroldJohnsonAnyone here know how to compile a Perl module on Panther?11:33
HappyFoolCookedGryphon: what you should do is check the line with a phone or other instrument; you will at least rule out one possible failure11:33
Maikeruhowever, when I go into networking dialog and deacvtivate then activate it works fine11:33
HaroldJohnsonSorry for asking that question here in #ubuntu.11:33
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BergcubeCookedGryphon~ Ah.  I see.  The good solution is probably "get a real modem".  And I guess you're not to keen on that one.  What make and model number is it?  (If you know...)11:34
naliothHaroldJohnson: look in ##apple11:34
BSG75can't take out libesd0 without effecting a whole pile of stuff11:34
CookedGryphonBergcube, the Laptop is an IPC powernote A, the modem, SiS 63011:34
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seatouchhey anyone mind helping me on installing a dvd player , coded to play a dvd?11:35
CookedGryphonHappyFool, i'm using the phone line atm to talk to u11:35
erUSULBSG75, what's the problem whith esd?11:35
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BSG75erUSUL: cann't get sound out of cedega without turning esd off11:35
erUSULright11:36
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BSG75I should be able to use just alsa11:36
lwizardlhi11:36
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lwizardli'm using the live cd and need some help mounting my hdd111:37
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kurtmount /dev/hdd1 /whatever11:37
funkyHat:( shame it's not possible to make abcde rip straight to mp3/ogg from the cd, extracting it to .wav first is veryt time consuming11:37
funkyHat*very11:37
CookedGryphonBergcube, also, i would get a real modem but i'm jsut using this till i get to uni when i'm gna use their internet, so i don't want to be investing any money in it11:38
BergcubeCookedGryphon~ I understand.  Stand by, I am googling a bit......11:38
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lwizardlwhats the /whatever?11:38
Seveasthe path to your mountpoint11:39
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lwizardli want to mount the ntfs drive every linux I have tried sees that drive as hdd111:39
seatouchhey11:39
seatouchplease help11:39
seatouchi need a dvd player / codec11:39
Seveaslwizardl: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically11:39
CarlFKtrying to build from source: configure: error: transcode depends on libz, but cannot links against libz11:40
CarlFKI don't see a libz package11:40
erUSULseatouch, use xine works for me11:40
lwizardlhow do i run that11:40
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seatoucherUSUL, it says codec is missing11:40
seatouchive installed the codec but still the error comes11:40
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BSG75u don't have libdvdcss .. correct for spelling11:41
BSG75google unofficial ubuntu ... setup is there11:41
seatouchBSG75, tell where i can get that11:41
TrebzQuic easy Q - How do I restart X ?11:41
CookedGryphonctrl alt and backspace11:41
BSG75seatouch: one sec11:41
funkyHatctrl+alt+backspace11:41
Trebzta11:42
seatouchBSG75, ok11:42
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lwizardlok got it thanks11:42
CookedGryphonalso funky i found out by accident today, if u have a root password, u can shut the x server by oging into singlke user mode, jsut type shutdown now11:42
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sean_hello?11:42
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CookedGryphonand it jstu leaves u with a console, would have been handy when i was configuring my nvidia card11:43
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funkyHatheh11:43
hwho knows gdb11:43
BSG75seatouch: apt-get install libdvdcss win32codecs11:43
seatouchthanks BSG7511:43
BergcubeCookedGryphon~ AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.....:  1.) Your modem is Hayes compatible.  (As expected, and as it should bloody well be.)  2.) Other people have got it working on various Laptops under Linux.  Conclusion?  Well, I am not really a Linux hardware guru.  (Yet?)  But it really seems to be fixable.  I think you'll find help by googling.....11:43
funkyHati only just figured out how to make the shutdown command actually power off my server yesterday11:43
sean_hey guys, i got a problem with my ubuntu computer, i am a newb, can you guys help me?11:43
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funkyHatsean_, just ask :)11:43
othernoobdoes anyone in here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer?11:44
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CookedGryphonfunkyHat, lol11:44
seatouchBSG75, apt-get install libdvdcss win32codecs11:44
hHow do I pass program options to gdb?11:44
seatouchBSG75, Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:44
seatouchThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:44
seatouchis only available from another source11:44
seatouchE: Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate11:44
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CookedGryphonseatouch, i got that11:44
CookedGryphonbut can play dvds neway11:44
BSG75seatouch: are you using the backport source.list?11:44
CookedGryphontho not the matrix for some reason11:44
seatouchBSG75, yea11:44
funkyHatCookedGryphon, it shut down fine, it just sat there and said 'power down' which is fine, when i'm looking at the monitor, i can press the button. but it doesn't even have a monitor now that it's set up11:44
pawdrohello, is gnome 2.12 available to download for ubuntu11:44
pawdro?11:44
othernoobdon't you need libdvdcss2 ?11:45
HiddenWolfpawdro, to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy replace all instances of Hoary with Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
sean_okay6, i am trying to play .avi files, but i don know any players to get11:45
lwizardlok11:45
seatouchothernoob, i just installed that11:45
lwizardlmy drive shows up as "8.4G Media"11:45
HiddenWolfpawdro, then sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get dist-upgrade11:45
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funkyHatsean_, do you have w32codecs installed?11:45
lwizardlbut if i type that in it errors on 8.4G not found11:45
funkyHat!info w32codecs11:45
HiddenWolfpawdro, Breezy is still a development version tho, so it might not work out of the box just yet.11:45
othernoobsean_: vlc, mplayer for example11:45
test34is breezy stable ?11:45
sean_no, do i just apt-get install w32codecs?11:45
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pawdroHiddenWolf: but i want my hoary with gnome 2.1211:46
sean_i got vlc player, but it wont open avi files11:46
HiddenWolftest34, mostly, preview release will be today11:46
pawdronot to upgrade to breezy11:46
DaMi3ni hae some problem playing wmas off amarok....11:46
HiddenWolfpawdro, then you'll have to compile it from source11:46
pawdroHiddenWolf: :/11:46
thehil Who knows how to pass options to program in gdb?11:46
funkyHatsean_, no, w32codecs isn't in any of the official repositories11:46
HiddenWolfpawdro, 2.12 will not be made available for Hoary11:46
pawdroHiddenWolf: yhm11:46
Trebzhow do you peeps usually edit config files?   (i mean read only ones)  I have been opening a terminal and doing sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf all the time....is that the 'right' way?11:46
test34HiddenWolf, cool, preview as an ISO ?11:46
pawdroHiddenWolf: i c11:46
Trebzseems a bit long winded!11:47
sean_do you know the url repository i should add?11:47
HiddenWolftest34, yes, will hit mirrors shortly11:47
kurtTrebz: that's what I do.11:47
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lwizardlhow do i get to my drive in terminal11:47
chavoTrebz, no that is so wrong11:47
Trebzlol11:47
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funkyHatanyone know which repository w32codecs is in?11:47
DaMi3nhow do i play wmas stored on ntfs partition using amrok???11:47
chavoHow dare you11:47
HiddenWolfpawdro, ubuntu and gnome have a coupled release schedule. every 6 months, both release. Stable versions only get bugfixes.11:47
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FraeonfunkyHat, at least on marillat11:47
Trebzhey, at least i'm getting away from the windows way....which is open a GUI :-)11:47
erUSULTrebz, i use nano on the terminal or emacs -nx11:47
chavoTrebz, whatever works for you man.11:47
chavonano is good for smaller files11:47
funkyHatFraeon, can you tell sean_ how to add that? O:-)11:48
kurtbut you can always use dpkg-reconfigure.11:48
sean_i know how to add repository, i just nano edit sources.list right?11:48
TrebzI was using nano, but couldn't work out how to copy and paste stuff (selecting text i couldn't figure out actually)11:48
HiddenWolfpawdro, trust me, you don't want to compile 2.12 on Hoary, so much has changed in the underlying structure, it's far better to upgrade.11:48
sean_and add it in11:48
FraeonNano is what I use if I bother touching the terminal11:48
othernoobDaMi3n: the xine engine plays wmas afaik, just mount the ntfs partition readonly11:48
FraeonUsually it's gedit11:48
chavoyeah nano is good for quick little edits11:48
adaptdo all the w32codecs work on ppc?11:49
lwizardlcan someone tell me how i get get to my hdd1 drive "8.4G Media" it keeps erroring when I do cd /Devices/8.4G media11:49
DaMi3nothernoob, : afaik??11:49
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Seveasadapt, none of them do11:49
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chavobut I prefer gui stuff, just makes it easier11:49
funkyHatDaMi3n, you will have to get and compile the wma patched version of libtag111:49
othernoobDaMi3n: as far as i know11:49
pawdroHiddenWolf: ok i wont do it11:49
pawdro;] 11:49
erUSULTrebz, whith the mouse select and midle button to paste11:49
adaptSeveas: eww. :)11:49
nalioth_wrknadapt: none do11:49
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funkyHatothernoob, he will need to patch taglib too11:49
chrisbudden14anyone set up a networked lexmark Z11 sucessfully11:49
TrebzerUSUL thanks11:49
adaptnalioth_wrkn: so basically.. no movies?11:49
funkyHatDaMi3n, search google for patched taglib11:49
othernoobfunkyHat: ah okay, didn't know, don't have wmas ;)11:49
seatouchcan anyone tell ?11:49
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : ok11:49
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nalioth_wrknadapt: no closed codec movies, no11:49
seatouchhow to play dvd's11:50
adaptthats gay11:50
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : the thing is i can play wma stores on linu partitions but not off mounted ntfs11:50
Fraeon<HiddenWolf> pawdro, trust me, you don't want to compile 2.12 on Hoary, so much has changed in the underlying structure, it's far better to upgrade. <-- But I wouldn't touch those breezy colonies either11:50
BSG75movies work fine11:50
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othernoobseatouch: vlc is capable of it11:50
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seatouchothernoob, how to get it?11:51
funkyHatDaMi3n, that's really odd... do you already have taglib patched?11:51
othernoobseatouch: what? vlc? isn't it in the repos?11:51
BSG75it's working fine on mine and it will on ur's too .. if you want to cut through most of the crap .. just install mplayer with the win32codecs11:51
seatouchothernoob, yea11:51
nalioth_wrkn!tell seatouch about synaptic11:51
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pawdroFraeon: i installed colony a few days ago11:51
BSG75but I am using xine and it works great11:51
pawdroFraeon: and my USB adsl modem didnt want initialize11:51
pawdro:/11:52
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DaMi3nfunkyHat, : i dont think so i am searching for it11:52
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FraeonI have a similar problem11:52
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sean_so what is the repo for w32codec?11:52
FraeonIt doesn't let my homepna card go online11:52
BSG75brb I think I fixed my esd11:52
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funkyHatDaMi3n, i have no idea why it couldn't play your wmas from a mounted ntfs drive, patching taglib most likely won't fix that. it's really odd as amaraK can't edit wma files (tags) anyway11:52
Fraeonsean_, http://debian.video.free.fr/11:52
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test34HiddenWolf, I guess the preview is already available11:52
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BSG75apt-get install win32codecs I think .. do a apt-cache search for win11:53
sean_thanks man11:53
test34http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/11:53
othernoobDoes anyone here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer?11:53
MaxeyPadI have an existing ubuntu install on my hd, but I had to reinstall windows for my dual boot, how can I just reinstall the boot menu (grub) I don't have access to the linux install11:53
nalioth_wrknBSG75: it's w32codecs11:53
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BSG75eeks you are aright ..11:53
HiddenWolftest34, so test it!11:53
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Fraeonothernoob, I have a Duron, but I'm a gamer. Just have *no* luck with wine/cvscedega.11:53
nalioth_wrknand playing with closed codec toys leads to a sad experience11:53
FraeonI guess it's because I have a Radeon 9800 Pro11:54
test34HiddenWolf, I'm not sure I want to erase slackware yet.. I'm not used to debian.. I'm thinking about it11:54
HiddenWolftest34, you'll be blown away, promise.11:54
othernoobFraeon: i have a p4 3.2 and a radeon 9800 pro and no probs..11:54
Muhammadhow can i install flash ?11:54
Muhammadon ubuntu ?11:54
CookedGryphonokay, i thinhk i may ahve narrowed down my modem problem, how do i configure my kernel to enable ALSA and ICH based modem support?11:54
sean_guys, i tired asking http://debian.video.free.fr/ and went apt-get update, and it said there was an error11:55
sean_so i think that the repo was no good11:55
nalioth_wrkntest34: there is always a seperate partition11:56
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test34nalioth_wrkn, my HD is too small11:57
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kevogodtest34, Pad it with lead, makes it bulkier and larger.11:57
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pawdrohow to chech ver of deb installed?11:57
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henkeis there any archive for some older package versions? a package has been removed from my cache, but I would like to find it to revert.11:58
test34kevogod I tried uranium11:58
nalioth_wrkntest34: that's not good11:58
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DaMi3nhow do i play wmas stored on ntfs partition using amarok???11:59
CookedGryphonanybody got any ideas?11:59
sean_so guys11:59

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