[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> none_-: thankyou for your constructive and useful unpit.
[12:00] <samu2> Seveas, where did it go then?
[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> input.
[12:00] <none_-> you're welcome
[12:00] <none_-> kubuntu should be ubuntu
[12:00] <tlogic> none_-, kde too
[12:00] <none_-> you're out of your mind
[12:01] <Seveas> none_-, stop it
[12:01] <Seveas> this is not the channel for gnome/kde wars
[12:01] <HrdwrBoB> kubuntu is kubuntu, whinging about it isn't going to acheive anything
[12:01] <none_-> lol
[12:01] <samu2> i should try apt-getting kubuntu-desktop on my desktop pc to try it out
[12:01] <none_-> samu2: don't do that
[12:01] <Inf3ctedFx> There is any website it show how to configure the Wireless card ??
[12:01] <none_-> try to iso image instead
[12:01] <Seveas> none_-, nonsense
[12:02] <HrdwrBoB> none_-: no, getting the package is fine
[12:02] <samu2> try to iso image?
[12:02] <HrdwrBoB> it's the same thing
[12:02] <tlogic> Inf3ctedFx, tell me the model of your card
[12:02] <brinebold> can anyone help me with installing mindless automaton?  I'm getting the mother of all error messages every time i try the make command after extracting the tar
[12:02] <none_-> uh huh.
[12:02] <samu2> Seveas, where did the mail notification thing go?
[12:02] <Seveas> using the iso makes you download much more
[12:02] <none_-> not quite
[12:02] <Seveas> yes
[12:02] <tlogic> Inf3ctedFx, also send me the output of lspci
[12:02] <none_-> well, that contradicts my experience
[12:02] <Seveas> the iso image is about 600mb
[12:02] <Inf3ctedFx> tlogic:  I can't I'm on windows and I have to reboot to get to linux
[12:02] <Seveas> what's needed to install kubuntu desktop on a regular ubuntu system is 138 mb
[12:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok, let me write it donw then I'll come back
[12:03] <HrdwrBoB> none_-: this is not random. we don't make this stuff up
[12:03] <KornFlamez> i want to install drivers for ati Radeon 9600-9700M ( Medion Aldi Laptop ) i allready looked here http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/readme0370.txt but it seems like so much work and very unintersting read ( i'm sorry ) any more happy penguin ways to install this?
[12:03] <none_-> but then you have gnome installed as well
[12:03] <tlogic> Inf3ctedFx ok!
[12:03] <HrdwrBoB> yes you do, he already has that installed
[12:03] <BlueEagle> seveas: Even if you've already apt-get kde?
[12:03] <none_-> that's what i am saying.
[12:03] <Seveas> none_-, but he apparently already has that...
[12:03] <HrdwrBoB> and quite clearly state he wanted to TRY KDE
[12:03] <Seveas> BlueEagle, no
[12:03] <Seveas> what's needed to install kubuntu desktop *on a regular ubuntu system* is 138 mb
[12:03] <emtrix> are there any good repositories i can add, featuring libdvdcss and stuff?
[12:03] <BlueEagle> seveas: Ahh. :)
[12:03] <HrdwrBoB> in which case a destructive reinstall is a ridiculous idea
[12:03] <Seveas> emtrix, hoary-extras
[12:04] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, indeed
[12:04] <none_-> ok, i agree with that
[12:04] <none_-> but if you happen to like it, install kubuntu via the iso image
[12:05] <Jonf> Could anyone help me? when I try to install gDesklets I get the next error: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[12:05] <Seveas> nonsense
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> in a monumental waste of time
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> and possibly data loss
[12:05] <none_-> possibly?
[12:05] <Seveas> indeed
[12:05] <nalioth> Jonf: you need a perl module XML::Parser
[12:05] <samu2> Ok, now maybe we can solve the mystery of the missing mail-notification thingy?
[12:05] <nalioth> Jonf: visit cpan.org
[12:05] <Seveas> Jonf, install gdeskl;ets from the repository
[12:05] <Seveas> NOT manually
[12:05] <Seveas> nalioth, bad idea
[12:05] <Seveas> the module is packaged of course :)
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> none_-: if you reinstall your opterating system it's a lot of stuffing around
[12:06] <nalioth> Seveas: sorry, trying to be helpful
[12:06] <reiki> ubotu tell reiki about sound
[12:06] <none_-> HrdwrBoB: how so?
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[12:06] <samu2> w00t, i found it
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> assuming you're not installing over the current install
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> you would have to delete everything
[12:06] <samu2> it has a horrible piece of graphics editing on the setup screen
[12:07] <none_-> have to?
[12:07] <HrdwrBoB> and installing on top of an already working install achieves nothing except for making your system completely wacked
[12:07] <none_-> most people would backup their files before a new install
[12:07] <samu2> but backing up files is a pain in the ass
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> except they already have their files
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> AND a working operating system
[12:08] <Seveas> none_-, it's stupid
[12:08] <Seveas> you're thinking too windows
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> it'
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> it
[12:08] <samu2> i dont think we really need to discuss this anymore
[12:08] <none_-> i haven't use windows in 7 years
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> it's like saying  - hey this car works, but what if I replaced the body with one exactly the same!
[12:08] <mjr> I don't really think none_- needs to discuss anymore
[12:08] <samu2> does this mail notification thing work alongside evolution?
[12:08] <brinebold> can anyone help me with installing mindless automaton from a tar archive?
[12:09] <HrdwrBoB> brinebold: what is your problem exactly
[12:09] <HrdwrBoB> and what is mindless automaton
[12:09] <none_-> HrdwrBoB: have you installed tried what you recommend? installing the meta package on top of the other one results in instability
[12:09] <CarlFK> pitti - ksudo user-admin in a termianl - first time: enter pw, dialog closes, return to $ prompt.  try again - no dialog, get "er may not run gksudo on localhost" on term.  (sttdout/err)
[12:09] <brinebold> a huge error message is the result, ill send it to you in private
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> none_-: I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about
[12:10] <Seveas> none_-, that is absolute bullshit
[12:10] <none_-> HrdwrBoB: nice try
[12:10] <nalioth> brinebold: use a pastebin or #flood so more folks can see
[12:10] <pitti> CarlFK: does "sudo user-admin" work?
[12:10] <Seveas> you can perfectly fine have ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xfce4 enlightenment and whatnot installed at the same time
[12:10] <brinebold> mindless automaton is a Magic: the gathering tool like Apprentice in Windows
[12:11] <none_-> if you say so
[12:11] <HrdwrBoB> we know so
[12:11] <none_-> really, how?
[12:11] <Seveas> because it's running fine on ~30 machines here...
[12:11] <CarlFK> pitti - oh crap.  i forgot that my user isn't in suduers yet.  damm preseed install.  I keep meaning to fix that...
[12:11] <HrdwrBoB> oooh... years of experience and in depth knoewledge of the way the system functions as a whole
[12:11] <samu2> is anybody using this mail-notification thing?
[12:12] <none_-> uh huh
[12:12] <nalioth> samu2: i would use it, if it worked with gmail
[12:12] <codecaine> someone in here tell me how to retrieve info about a user, im doing adduser to add users and i want to view the info on that user i just entered in after.
[12:12] <CarlFK> pitti - so yes, sudo works as expected.  look like gksudo is dropping some chars or something and not reporting problems quite right
[12:12] <pitti> CarlFK: ah, ok :-) well, then your bug report should be that gksudo doesn't print a meaningful error message
[12:12] <Seveas> nalioth, recompile it with ssl support ;(
[12:12] <Seveas> ;)
[12:12] <SPERMITE> will i have to install this from source : kingpin-1.20-x86.run ?
[12:12] <Seveas>   Mail Notification features include:
[12:12] <Seveas>    * mbox, MH, Maildir, Sylpheed, POP3, IMAP and Gmail support
[12:12] <pitti> CarlFK: right; bug report appreciated :-) against gksudo
[12:12] <Seveas> that's what apt-cache show gives
[12:12] <trevor3307> Can anyone help me with samba??
[12:13] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/settingupsamba
[12:13] <CarlFK> pitti - glad we met in devle or this wouldhave been one misleading bugzilla.  (may want to get m to reconsider where bug reports are discussed)
[12:13] <slept> trevor3307, sth special ?
[12:13] <trevor3307> seveas: ive dont that
[12:13] <samu2> ok, just to make none_- really happy im now gonna gonna plug the network cable over to my desktop pc and apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <codecaine> Seveas, how do i retrieve info on a user, for instance after i create a user with adduser i want to see that info i just entered for the user.
[12:13] <Seveas> trevor3307, ok, what's the problem then?
[12:13] <trevor3307> i just want to be able to view my ubuntu box from my windows network on my xp machine...
[12:13] <Seveas> codecaine, finger user
[12:13] <pitti> CarlFK: oh, discussing and reassigning in bz is fine, too
[12:14] <tlogic> trevor3307, why dont you try VNC ?
[12:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok I'm back =)
[12:14] <erUSUL> codecaine, finger ?
[12:14] <tlogic> Inf3ctedFx nice :)
[12:14] <CarlFK> pitti - it has in the past, but I just got shooed out ;)
[12:14] <Inf3ctedFx> tlogic:  look this is the name of the card:
[12:14] <pitti> CarlFK: in general, I consider a small message "Can someone please help me with a bug in #u" on #u-d just fine
[12:14] <trevor3307> im a huge noob...is VNC easy to setup?
[12:14] <Inf3ctedFx> Broadcom Corporation
[12:14] <CarlFK> er.. in bz?
[12:14] <Inf3ctedFx> BCM4306 802.11b/g
[12:14] <none_-> trevor3307: no
[12:14] <CarlFK> pitti - got it
[12:15] <trevor3307> thanks...i will try it
[12:15] <codecaine> erUSUL, yes that works but it doesn't show the Other[]  info part i put in
[12:15] <pitti> CarlFK: bz = bugzilla, sorry
[12:15] <slept> trevor3307, samba if as easy as possible
[12:15] <codecaine> for the username
[12:15] <tlogic> Inf3ctedFx thsi is not good.... hmm let me check something one minute
[12:15] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[12:15] <trevor3307> i got samba setup...but i can't see my ubuntu box from my windows network..
[12:15] <Seveas> transgress, yes vnc is easy
[12:15] <Inf3ctedFx> is a linksys card
[12:15] <CarlFK> pitti - i try to keep my interaction with bz to a minimum
[12:15] <Seveas> trevor3307, yes vnc is easy
[12:15] <trevor3307> ok
[12:15] <Seveas> none_-, please stop being an idiot
[12:16] <none_-> excuse me?
[12:16] <slept> trevor3307,is the  workgroup right ?
[12:16] <CarlFK> pitti - maybe somone should make #u-bz
[12:16] <CarlFK> pitti - for Brazil ;)
[12:16] <none_-> "no" is an answer to a question
[12:16] <erUSUL> cat /etc/passwd | grep <user>
[12:16] <Chadza> What is the easiest way to make an iso from a dvd?
[12:16] <trevor3307> slept. yes..workgroup is MSHOME
[12:16] <slept> trevor3307, do  smbtree on linux
[12:16] <Seveas> none_-, but a completely useless and in this case wrong answer
[12:16] <pitti> CarlFK: wouldn't help, a person can only read a limited number of channels
[12:17] <CarlFK> pitti - goo dpoint
[12:17] <slept> trevor3307, you'll see all about your shares
[12:17] <codecaine> erUSUL, yes that works
[12:17] <codecaine> thx
[12:17] <CarlFK> Chadza- guessing a DVD movie?
[12:17] <darkheart> trevor3307 If you got samba working, VNC shouldn't be a problem.
[12:17] <none_-> how is it completely wrong
[12:17] <Chadza> UT2k4 dvd.
[12:17] <trevor3307> well..i think i have samba working...
[12:17] <nalioth> Chadza: use k3b, gnomebaker or graveman
[12:17] <Chadza> Which I'm having problems with the install.
[12:17] <Seveas> because VNC is extremely easy to setup on Ubuntu
[12:17] <Chadza> Not recognizing the cd being in.
[12:17] <trevor3307> i can see my windows pc from ubuntu...but not vice-versa...
[12:17] <none_-> i guess we'll see
[12:17] <erUSUL> codecaine, you're wellcome
[12:18] <Chadza> So I'm going to make an image and mount that.
[12:18] <Chadza> Hopefully.
[12:18] <darkheart> trevor3307 Well, I'll sum up the steps, apt-get the package, run vncserver, enter a password. now you have VNC running and can connect.
[12:18] <Hergiswi> I installed WINE from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't right click stuff and run it with WINE
[12:18] <darkheart> trevor3307 Just so you know, if you want to connect to the active desktop, you don't need to install VNC.
[12:18] <trevor3307> do i need to install VNC on windows?
[12:18] <trevor3307> ok...
[12:18] <slept> trevor3307, did you configure your server and the restart it
[12:18] <darkheart> trevor3307 You need a vnc viewer to connect to the host running the vnc server.
[12:19] <trevor3307> i configured it and i restarted ubunutu...
[12:19] <mvo> CarlFK: feel free to assign the gksudo bug to me
[12:19] <slept> trevor3307, what does smbtree give you
[12:19] <trevor3307> lemme try it
[12:19] <darkheart> trevor3307 Restarted Ubuntu? Most config changes don't need a reboot.
[12:19] <CarlFK> mvo - k
[12:20] <nalioth> Seveas: my eels are missing
[12:20] <trevor3307> well..samba restart wouldnt work..
[12:20] <slept> it does
[12:20] <erUSUL> Chadza, dd if=/dev/<dvd> of=image.iso i think that even cat can do the trick cat /dev/<dvd> > image.iso
[12:20] <slept> trevor3307, /etc/init.d/samba restart
[12:20] <trevor3307> slept, smbtree shows me my two xp machines on my network..
[12:20] <darkheart> trevor3307 Sorry, didn't know you were talking about that. Anyway, I'll let you work on your smb stuff.
[12:20] <emtrix> can anyone point me to a guide/howto of how to configure debsplash in ubuntu?.. searched all over, can't find anything useful :-P
[12:20] <slept> trevor3307, and your linux system ?
[12:21] <trevor3307> no..
[12:21] <HrdwrBoB> emtrix: chill until breezy comes out :)
[12:21] <ubuntuguy> anyone: If you know how to fix this please inform me. I'm trying to run Java GUI applications and I'm getting this bug: http://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2005/08/msg00143.html
[12:21] <brinebold> sorry about that
[12:21] <CarlFK> mvo - what happend to the "assign to" option? I just see "package gnome-system-tools"
[12:21] <brinebold> anyway, who was trying to help me with the mindless automaton install?
[12:22] <slept> trevor3307, did you do  testparm
[12:22] <brinebold> me?
[12:22] <trevor3307> slept, yes
[12:22] <CarlFK> mvo - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14922
[12:22] <nalioth> brinebold: paste whatever you have to show us, and send us the link
[12:22] <slept> trevor3307, restart samba
[12:22] <CarlFK> mvo - I gotta run. thanks for the support support
[12:23] <trevor3307> i tried to restart it...i says "no such file or directy was found"
[12:24] <slept> trevor3307,  /etc/init.d/samba ?
[12:24] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, i'm sorry to have to ask this - but is there a guide anywhere that someone could link me to showing me how to connect my ubuntu laptop to my router so i can hook it up to the net?
[12:24] <trevor3307> slept: no such file or direct found...again
[12:24] <brinebold> http://mindless.sourceforge.net/   is the location of the program
[12:24] <nalioth> missing eels, missing mimes, what's next?
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:938: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_window_set_default_size'
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:938: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_WINDOW'
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:939: error: invalid type argument of `->'
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:940: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_paned_set_position'
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:940: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_PANED'
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c: At top level:
[12:24] <brinebold> game.h:62: warning: array `target_table' assumed to have one element
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:344: warning: `add_tools' defined but not used
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:410: warning: `add_drop_tools' defined but not used
[12:24] <brinebold> mindless.c:435: warning: `chdir_of_file' defined but not used
[12:25] <brinebold> mindless.c:883: warning: `do_view_card' defined but not used
[12:25] <darkheart> brinebold Paste somewhere else.
[12:25] <brinebold> mindless.c:889: warning: `entry_box_key_pressed' defined but not used
[12:25] <brinebold> mindless.c:932: warning: `set_main_window_size' defined but not used
[12:25] <brinebold> make: *** [mindless.o]  Error 1
[12:25] <darkheart> brinebold Like #flood or pastebin
[12:25] <windex> oi.
[12:25] <nalioth> brinebold: do not do that again in here
[12:25] <Seveas> i'm gone for 5 seconds and some STUPID IDIOT starts pasting
[12:25] <eva-02> can anyone walk me through installing quake3 on ubuntu? :o
[12:25] <arentie> I have an error when updating to the latest linux kernel via Synaptic
[12:25] <slept> trevor3307, dpkg --get-selections |grep samba
[12:25] <slept> trevor3307, you might be missing a server
[12:26] <eva-02> ive got my retail cd mounted, downloaded the linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run file
[12:26] <arentie> Is anyone available to help?  I have a relatively simple question based on the error that I receive
[12:26] <samu2> when i tried to apt-get kubuntu-desktop it started asking me for my CD. cant i just get everything by http?
[12:26] <trevor3307> slept: it says samba common is installed
[12:26] <Seveas> samu2, yes you can
[12:26] <Seveas> samu2, delete the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <trevor3307> and python 2.4 samba is also installed
[12:26] <slept> trevor3307, so you don't have a server
[12:26] <samu2> Seveas, ah right. thanks.
[12:27] <slept> trevor3307, you need to install samba and configure it
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, i'm sorry to have to ask this - but is there a guide anywhere that someone could link me to showing me how to connect my ubuntu laptop to my router so i can hook it up to the net?
[12:27] <trevor3307> ok...well i will go install it again...thanks for the help
[12:27] <arentie> I have the error pasted at: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1998
[12:27] <samu2> lets try this xfce4 thing while im at it
[12:27] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp, wiki.ubuntu.com/wifihowto
[12:28] <sorush20> how do I fix errors on grub
[12:28] <windex> Lunar_Lamp, if you aren't using wifi, you can still do it, but need a network cable
[12:28] <slept> trevor3307, you can use swat if you like to do via gui
[12:28] <trevor3307> swat?
[12:28] <Lunar_Lamp> that page does not exist yet...
[12:28] <slept> trevor3307, localhost:903 I think
[12:28] <Lunar_Lamp> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[12:28] <erUSUL> sorush20, what kind of errors?
[12:28] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp, It's WifiHowto
[12:28] <Seveas> or another similar name
[12:28] <Seveas> it'll be listed on the errorpage
[12:28] <slept> trevor3307, package you have to install
[12:29] <slept> trevor3307, apt-cache search samba server
[12:29] <Lunar_Lamp> ah - Seveas - it's case sensitive - WiFiHowTo
[12:29] <gazam> hey, could someone help me with building gnomad2 from source?
[12:29] <trevor3307> thanks
[12:29] <Lunar_Lamp> (WiFiHowto even)
[12:30] <erUSUL> gazam, install the package
[12:30] <slept> trevor3307, you'll have to add a user with smbpasswd -a username or allow anonymus login
[12:30] <benplaut> How do i edit the icons on gnome-splash?
[12:31] <gazam> erUSUL, the package in the repo is out of date, by a long time
[12:31] <ubuntuguy> is anyone else having problems running Java GUI programs?
[12:31] <reiki> has anyone gotten Thunderbird to retrieve mail from local mail folders without having to run a local imap server?
[12:32] <mjr> ubuntuguy, gcj/gij isn't really ready for prime-time in running java gui programs written with awt/swing (though swt should work)
[12:32] <medgno> how usable is breezy right now?
[12:32] <benplaut> very usable
[12:32] <benplaut> but i'm not allowed to say that :P
[12:32] <Seveas> medgno, it works for some, for others it does not
[12:32] <medgno> so if I've run debian sid for around a year, I wouldn't have problems with the breakage, most likely?
[12:33] <samu2> ill wait until they say its stable
[12:33] <ubuntuguy> mjr, thanks for the info. I guess its being worked on?
[12:33] <dooglus> there are still lots of changes being made.
[12:33] <mjr> ubuntuguy, it is
[12:33] <benplaut> medgno, you would probably be OK
[12:33] <fizzle> ubotu, tell fizzle what fluxbox is
[12:34] <codecaine> i have no lucky with breezy still
[12:34] <fizzle> ubotu: tell fizzle what fluxbox is
[12:34] <medgno> benplaut, thanks
[12:34] <ubuntuguy> That will be nice to have.
[12:34] <Seveas> fizzle, that won't work...
[12:34] <fizzle> Seveas, im havinfg trouble with fluxbox
[12:34] <benplaut> !fizzle
[12:34] <ubotu> benplaut: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:34] <fizzle> going really slow
[12:34] <benplaut> oops
[12:34] <benplaut> !fluxbox
[12:34] <ubotu> I don't know, benplaut
[12:34] <fizzle> and locking up :(
[12:34] <netdur> will be the there ubuntu preview release today?
[12:34] <nalioth> fizzle you can /msg ubotu <factoid> to have it tell you whatever
[12:35] <Seveas> netdur, no, it will be in about a week
[12:35] <ubuntuguy> mjr, I'm learning python now. WIll python GUI programs work?
[12:35] <fizzle> anyone here use fluxbox
[12:38] <arentie> can i delete /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'
[12:38] <Seveas> arentie, why would you?
[12:39] <arentie> Seveas, because I receive the error located at: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1998
[12:39] <Concord_Dawn> Hi, I'm in a bit of a tricky situation. My friend's computer runs Windows, and Windows now won't boot. I inserted the Ubuntu Live CD, but I want to get a bunch of files off his Windows partition. Is it safe for me to take the LiveCD out and burn the contents to a blank CD?
[12:39] <bored2k> How do I register a protocol in epiphany/firefox?? (lastfm://)
[12:39] <samu2> nalioth, i can confirm the mail notification thing supporst gmail
[12:40] <nalioth> samu2: great! i'm tryin to get mine workin
[12:40] <Seveas> arentie, why did you install a third-party deb for ndiswrapper?
[12:40] <Seveas> uninstall the ndiswrapper-modules package
[12:40] <medgno> Concord_Dawn, probably not. If you have a usb key drive, that would be a lot safer
[12:40] <esac> I installed linux on a partition. I have another partition of the same size that is empty. Can I just dd my currently installed linux OS onto the other partition, and then modify grub to boot into it, or is that not possible ?
[12:40] <Concord_Dawn> medgno, herm......I don't have one that's formatted to anything Linux writable
[12:40] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, i don't think so
[12:40] <arentie> Seveas, when I was a "newer newbie" not knowing what I know now, I downloaded it to try it
[12:41] <erUSUL> knoppix is better suited as a rescue disk
[12:41] <Concord_Dawn> herm.
[12:41] <Wips> where is the ubuntu guide?
[12:41] <Concord_Dawn> does knoppix write to NTFS safely?
[12:41] <arentie> Seveas, I tried to trying to get my wifi to work with ubuntu
[12:41] <medgno> ooh, with knoppix, if you have around a gig of ram or so, the 'toram' parameter should load it all into ram, freeing up the cd drive
[12:41] <Seveas> uninstall the ndiswrapper-modules package
[12:41] <cafuego_> Concord_Dawn: Only Windows does.
[12:42] <medgno> IIRC, that was a while ago I heard it, though
[12:42] <Concord_Dawn> medgno, I'm limited to 256, 512 if I put in the ram in this computer.
[12:42] <arentie> Seveas, will it mess up my network connection?
[12:42] <Seveas> yes
[12:42] <Seveas> if you use ndiswrapper
[12:42] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, what you want to do is burn from the live CD to a burner
[12:42] <Concord_Dawn> will I be able to do that with Ubuntu Live?
[12:42] <arentie> I do use ndiswrapper
[12:42] <Seveas> well actuall, it won't mess up the connection
[12:42] <omp342> how can i find out my internal ip address? (like ipconfig in windows)
[12:42] <Concord_Dawn> ompaul, I want to get stuff off the drive
[12:42] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, if you have two CD Drives and one of them is a burner
[12:42] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, i think it uses captive ntfs driver which can write safely
[12:42] <cevizoglu> bah, after installing ubuntu-desktop, xserver still can't boot... guess I'll go back to hoary
[12:42] <Seveas> just make sure to immediately install the restricted-modules thing
[12:43] <Concord_Dawn> ompaul, I don't have 2 drives, it's a laptop.
[12:43] <arentie> Ok
[12:43] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, got a second machine on the network?
[12:43] <Concord_Dawn> hmmmmmmmm
[12:43] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: knoppix has the captiveNTFS thing, but think about this: if it screws up, where will your NTFS data be?
[12:43] <Concord_Dawn> I know
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> I might just install Ubuntu
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> on his extra partition.
[12:44] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, that is not a risk you should take lightly - try to send it off over the wire
[12:44] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, do it
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> nah
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> I have a network.
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> I can plug it in
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> how would I set his computer up so I can reach into the drive and read everything off?
[12:45] <Concord_Dawn> He's with me right now, so it will be on LAN
[12:45] <ompaul> fire up a live CD and then use ftp or sftp to some other box
[12:45] <Concord_Dawn> herm.
[12:45] <Concord_Dawn> any other way I could do it?
[12:45] <Concord_Dawn> don't wanna install an FTPd.
[12:45] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, lots of ways, floppies, usbsticks
[12:46] <medgno> Concord_Dawn, ssh wouldn't be a risky thing to install
[12:46] <Concord_Dawn> without externals.
[12:46] <Concord_Dawn> medgno, I have it installed
[12:46] <Concord_Dawn> WIN :)
[12:46] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, ssh gives sftp
[12:46] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, maybe whith nc (network cat)
[12:46] <ompaul> no server
[12:46] <medgno> then you can send the files over that. In the nautilus 'Connect to Server' dialog, use the "ssh" option, and it should work
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> hmm....
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> done.
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> can i install a package with the LiveCD?
[12:48] <_SWAT_> anyone here got experience with running X windows over SSH?
[12:48] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: Yes, it's easy.
[12:48] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: make sure the ssh servers allow X11Forwarding
[12:48] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: Then ssh -C -X remotehost; run your X app.
[12:49] <cavediver2> Hi guys. I did a fresh install of ubuntu, only changed the kernel dfromi386 to 686. Now I want to install nvidia-glx, but it want to reinstall 386 kernel. I don't want that but rather run it on my current 686 kernel. Anyone have an idea?
[12:49] <_SWAT_> cafuego, well, my 'client' is a Windows PC. But I found a program for that.
[12:49] <_SWAT_> cafuego_, well, my 'client' is a Windows PC. But I found a program for that.
[12:49] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: You'll need X on that PC.
[12:49] <cafuego_> either cygwin or something else...
[12:49] <arentie> Seveas, thank you for the help...my problem was solved...you're a master!
[12:50] <_SWAT_> cafuego_, I found a "or something" :D
[12:50] <samu2> w00t, amarok seems much better than rhythm box
[12:50] <Concord_Dawn> Can I install an SSHd while running LiveCD?
[12:50] <_SWAT_> how can I check if SSH on Ubuntu supports forwarding?
[12:50] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: What as long as that listens for incoming connections and the ssh client can do forwarding, you're fine.
[12:50] <samu2> perhaps a bit slower, though
[12:50] <Seveas> _SWAT_, it does.
[12:50] <cafuego_> _SWAT_: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:50] <medgno> Concord_Dawn, possibly. You should be able to upload via ssh (have his computer do the 'connect to server' thing, connecting to your desktop)
[12:51] <Concord_Dawn> hmm
[12:51] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[12:52] <_SWAT_> cafuego_, my problem: what's the first command you need to run? (on the client, because doing something like "emelfm" doesn't work)
[12:52] <brinebold2> brinebold here: I apologize for the error message paste earlier though I believe Seveas probably could've been slightly more polite than calling me an STUPID IDIOT and muting (I'm assuming the mute was yours also, though I may be mistaken) me.  Anyway, the full error message is now posted here  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1999  with information on the cause appended to the bottom of the page.
[12:52] <nalioth> samu2: care to share re the mail-notification?
[12:53] <nalioth> brinebold2: dont feel bad, Seveas calls everyone names who floods
[12:53] <samu2> nalioth, eh, it ended up in my internet folder in the start menu and from there you can add accounts
[12:54] <samu2> hmm, i think amarok crashed already
[12:54] <nalioth> samu2: does it run in the panel?
[12:54] <_SWAT_> cafuego_, my problem: what's the first command you need to run? (on the client, because doing something like "emelfm" or "startkde" don't work)
[12:54] <Seveas> only if the are stupid enough to not realise that flooding is bad and that flooding an entire screen is worse. Especially since it's mentioned in the topic.
[12:54] <samu2> nope, it shows up in the tray when it has something to report
[12:54] <nalioth> samu2: ok thanks
[12:57] <brinebold2> Seveas, the topic is too long to fit in the topic line of my gaim client.  It gets to "Do NOT p" and is cut off.  I guess thats what I get for running at 640*480 resolution tho.
[12:58] <nalioth> brinebold2: you can always type /topic into your client
[12:58] <paolo_> ciao
[12:59] <anomaly> hrmm.. do I or do I not want to get my hands dirty learning C++.. love C, but running out of money to get more books. but found lots of material online.
[12:59] <anomaly> heh :)
[01:00] <Hergiswi> I installed WINE from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't right click stuff and run it with WINE
[01:00] <Hergiswi> can anyone help?
[01:00] <Concord_Dawn> Hergiswi, you have to use custom command?
[01:00] <Hergiswi> I do?
[01:00] <Hergiswi> why? o_O
[01:00] <Seveas> brinebold2, then use a decent irc client
[01:00] <Concord_Dawn> because
[01:00] <Concord_Dawn> it's the way it is.
[01:00] <Hergiswi> On Warty I could right click stuff
[01:01] <Seveas> and not pasting in public channels is simply netiquette
[01:01] <codecaine> can someone tell me what the "." represents in bash programming for instance:     . "${WINGHOME}/run-wing.sh"
[01:01] <windex> this line has been pasted.
[01:01] <sorush20> guys I'm in ubuntu live and I want to be able to mount my harddisk... what do I type... I have Ubuntu installed on the hda but I have been getting Grub error 15 so I need to get the menu.lst file form the /boot/grub directory on my hdd can someone help
[01:01] <Seveas> codecaine, it means that the file "${WINGHOME}/run-wing.sh" will be sourced
[01:02] <Seveas> ie all commands in it will be run
[01:02] <nalioth> sorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:02] <codecaine> Seveas, so without the . and i just called it straight out it would be invalid?
[01:02] <codecaine> is it that way because of how it starts with a variable?
[01:02] <sorush20> nalioth i only have a Ubuntu installe do the computer..
[01:03] <erUSUL> sorush20, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda<x> /mnt/<whatever>
[01:03] <Seveas> codecaine, sourcing means executing in the current context
[01:03] <Seveas> (well actually not even executing)
[01:03] <nalioth> sorush20: the techniques in the URL will answer your question
[01:03] <Seveas> its like #include in C
[01:04] <codecaine> Seveas, still not completely understanding sorry, you know of article to read on it?
[01:04] <Quinthius> what's the best way to change the default keymap used in the console?
[01:04] <abitavenger> hello
[01:04] <nalioth> Quinthius: system > prefs > keyboard *
[01:04] <Seveas> codecaine, read a bash tutorial on tldp.org :)
[01:04] <Chadza> Pssh.
[01:04] <Quinthius> nalioth: in the console...
[01:05] <abitavenger> where can i get a mp3 plugin for totem?
[01:05] <DeathOnJuice> hello
[01:05] <DeathOnJuice> bye
[01:05] <Seveas> !mp3
[01:05] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:05] <Quinthius> nalioth: that only changes thekeymap X/gnome uses
[01:05] <nalioth> Quinthius: not sure then
[01:06] <abitavenger> any tips on how to install the plugins?
[01:06] <riffic> is the preview release happening today ?
[01:07] <nalioth> !tell abitavenger about restricted
[01:07] <erUSUL> abitavenger, gstreamer-plugins
[01:07] <erUSUL> abitavenger, gstreamer-mad
[01:07] <boxerboy> hi everyone is anyone up to answering a stupid question?
[01:07] <erUSUL> boxerboy, no ;)
[01:07] <f||bber> Anyone know how to get NDiswrapper to load at boot, I followed this (twice) still no luck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[01:08] <nalioth> boxerboy: only if it's REALLY stupid
[01:08] <Quinthius> boxerboy: stupid questions only get stupid answers
[01:08] <boxerboy> lol
[01:08] <boxerboy> how do i burn torret to disk?
[01:08] <boxerboy> ^^^ stupid
[01:08] <f||bber> boxerboy, the .torrent file ;-)
[01:08] <brinebold2> isnt the actual file
[01:08] <Seveas> boxerboy, .torrent files are only specifying what to download...
[01:08] <f||bber> exactly!
[01:09] <boxerboy> i have the files but they are on desktop i didnt download them is that good bad or stupid?
[01:09] <f||bber> boxerboy, what did you download?
[01:09] <boxerboy> mandriva2005
[01:09] <nalioth> boxerboy: torrent files do nothing w/o a torrent client
[01:09] <boxerboy> im on breezy now
[01:09] <nalioth> boxerboy: so burn the mandriva iso to disk
[01:10] <boxerboy> so i have to find iso for it
[01:10] <omp342> in bittorrent clients, i get connection refused errors when trying to connect to trackers :(
[01:10] <f||bber> boxerboy, K3B or Gnomebaker it
[01:10] <boxerboy> k3b i have that
[01:10] <f||bber> omp342, firewall?
[01:10] <omp342> f||bber: i have a router, but it worked fine in gentoo and windows
[01:11] <Quinthius> boxerboy: you need to first open up the torrent file with a bt client. ubuntu comes with one, try double clicking on the torrent and ti should start downloading the iso...
[01:11] <ksmurf> anyone know why transperency in breezy gDesklets isn't working?
[01:11] <f||bber> you edited iptable/ using guarddog/firestarter ??
[01:11] <boxerboy> ok than burn it to cd after they download?
[01:11] <Quinthius> boxerboy: yeah
[01:11] <boxerboy> ok
[01:11] <Quinthius> boxerboy: you burn the iso, not the torrent
[01:12] <boxerboy> i have breezy but i havent played with traspancy yet
[01:12] <Quinthius> boxerboy: the torrent is just for downloading the iso
[01:12] <omp342> np[e
[01:12] <omp342> nope
[01:12] <eva-02> any ideas why my resolution wont go back to normal after quitting q3 arena? :o
[01:12] <boxerboy> they were cd torrents are they still iso versions?
[01:12] <bimberi> Quinthius: have a look at these commands - loadkeys, setkeycodes, dumpkeys (I don't know anything more but hopefully that's the hint you need :) )
[01:12] <nalioth> heh heh StarBand Is NOT Currently Right For...   Extensive peer-to-peer (P2P) filesharing use
[01:12] <medgno> eva-02, press ALT+F2, type in xrandr -s0    and press enter
[01:13] <Quinthius> boxerboy: maybe, maybe not. might be bin/cue or whatever. but it should be some cd format that you burn...
[01:13] <brinebold2> yeah, most people would find it odd that a 700MB ISO downloaded in a few seconds....
[01:13] <f||bber> omp342, I had to ALLOW torrent earlier, i used firestarte and just allow the service, you should see it block
[01:13] <eva-02> medgno: nothing :(
[01:13] <imterro> hey guys
[01:13] <vern401> hello
[01:13] <omp342> f||bber: okay i'll try that. thanks
[01:13] <imterro> ummm how do i su
[01:14] <imterro> ?
[01:14] <boxerboy> ok so in k3b just set it to burn cd format and good to go i hope
[01:14] <eva-02> the resolution is correct, but the screen is stuck small and scrolls now
[01:14] <eva-02> instead of displaying everything
[01:14] <Quinthius> bimberi: well i know about loadkeys but i was more wandering where to change the default keymap used by the bootup scripts
[01:14] <imterro> or more importantly, how do i set my su pw
[01:14] <bimberi> Quinthius: ah, k
[01:14] <f||bber> Can anyone one help with my NDiswrapper boot proble ^^^ ?
[01:14] <medgno> eva-02, well that's annoying. hrm. If you go System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution (in gnome) does it give you the option to change your resolution back to normal?
[01:14] <chavo> imterro, use sudo and your password
[01:15] <omp342> imterro, you can do 'sudo command here' to do the command as root
[01:15] <abitavenger> what if i don't have gstreamer-mad?
[01:15] <eva-02> nope, it displays as 1280x960 there
[01:15] <eva-02> although
[01:15] <omp342> imterro, or you can do 'sudo su' so you won't have to keep tying sudo before each command
[01:15] <eva-02> if i change the res, then say i dont want to keep it
[01:15] <eva-02> it flickers back to correct size
[01:15] <medgno> weird
[01:16] <medgno> I'm not sure what to do then. Sorry. :(
[01:16] <imterro> so i just type sudo and it gives me root access?
[01:16] <sikor> hi
[01:17] <erUSUL> abitavenger, gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:17] <imterro> ?
[01:17] <bimberi> imterro: sudo <command> runs the command with root privs
[01:17] <bimberi> imterro: sudo -i will give you a root login shell
[01:17] <firefly2442> how do I get NFS to show up under rpcinfo -p  ?
[01:17] <erUSUL> imterro, yiu type sudo and you *do* something as root
[01:18] <abitavenger> erUSUL,  i dont have that
[01:18] <abitavenger> erUSUL,  in the synaptic package manager, its not in there
[01:18] <Quinthius> bimberi: aha, figured it out: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[01:18] <erUSUL> abitavenger, have you got multiverse in your sources?
[01:19] <bimberi> Quinthius: ah, thanks for the feedback, something else for the personal knowledgebase :)
[01:19] <Quinthius> hehe
[01:19] <erUSUL> abitavenger, have you got universe in your sources?
[01:19] <abitavenger> i'm not sure
[01:19] <imterro> erUSUL, so any user can use root then/
[01:19] <Jonf> Could anyone tell me why I cant create a folder neather unzip files under the Share folder?
[01:19] <glenn> any backport site for rrdtool 1.2 for hoary?
[01:19] <f||bber> is there a wireless monitor type app that you can set to come up on boot? etc Wifi manager?
[01:20] <abitavenger> where do i get multiverse? repositories? and then get all the "updates"
[01:20] <omp342> f||bber: i don't see it blocking anything in firestarter :/
[01:20] <f||bber> omp342, 1 sec go to the third tab what is it?
[01:20] <abitavenger> i may have figured it out, hold on a second erUSUL
[01:21] <omp342> Allow connections from hosts: 192.168.0.101
[01:21] <bimberi> imterro: no, the user created during the install has access to sudo, other new users don't get it by default
[01:21] <imterro> ahhhh
[01:21] <omp342> and allow service is blank
[01:21] <h08817> how do i reset my mbr back to windows?
[01:21] <imterro> bimberi, so i can set a root?
[01:22] <f||bber> omp342, go to policy tab
[01:22] <h08817> i should restart with boot disk but then what?
[01:22] <omp342> i am in policy tab
[01:22] <f||bber> omp342, Write click in allow service
[01:22] <bimberi> imterro: sure, if you must, you can "sudo passwd" to set the password
[01:22] <abitavenger> h08817,  insert your windows cd, go to repair section thing where you have a command prompt, and type format mbr
[01:22] <omp342> ok
[01:22] <f||bber> omp342, Add a rule and choose bittorrent as the service
[01:22] <omp342> and i clicked add rule
[01:22] <omp342> ok
[01:22] <imterro> bimberi, so if i do that, then i cant use sudo anymore?
[01:22] <h08817> abitavenger: its for 98
[01:23] <bimberi> imterro: no, sudo will still work :)
[01:23] <imterro> nice
[01:23] <abitavenger> hmm
[01:23] <imterro> thanks
[01:23] <abitavenger> h08817,  I'm really not sure then :(
[01:23] <omp342> f||bber: should i try it now or do i have to restart X or something like that? :)
[01:23] <f||bber> omp342, Allow everyone, it now opens the port range from I think 6881 - 6889..
[01:23] <bimberi> imterro: np :)
[01:23] <f||bber> Apply the policy at the top thats all
[01:23] <h08817> o
[01:23] <samu2> the menus go a little crazy with duplicate apps and stuff when you install multiple window managers
[01:23] <omp342> ok
[01:24] <omp342> f||bber: i still get a connection refused error
[01:24] <omp342> only a few trackers work
[01:24] <omp342> most torrents i download the trackers dont work
[01:25] <f||bber> where you gettingt hem from?
[01:25] <omp342> different places, the thing is these torrents worked fine in gentoo like 2 days ago
[01:25] <BlueEagle> omp342: They don't work at all or you're unable to connect the first time you try?
[01:25] <abitavenger> okay now that i have the song "playing", how do i make sound come out lol, how do i change the sound card drivers?
[01:25] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:26] <omp342> BlueEagle: some trackers work, most give me a connection refused error when i open the torrent to download it
[01:26] <f||bber> omp342, hmmm..if it was firewalllll you would see it blocking
[01:26] <BlueEagle> omp342: Well, if it is sporadic then it's not your setup unless you've got a firewall that is fubar.
[01:27] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:28] <omp342> =/
[01:28] <erUSUL> abitavenger, check the volume control. What is your sound card model?
[01:28] <abitavenger> erUSUL,  volume control checked, its a soundblaster
[01:29] <Cashel> howdies
[01:29] <BlueEagle> abitavenger: emu10k1?
[01:30] <Bad_Magic> anyone know a way to see the last couple things that have written to the sound card?
[01:30] <Bad_Magic> im going nuts at this ding dong sound i keep getting every once in awhile
[01:30] <BlueEagle> abitavenger: Have you un-muted master and PCM?
[01:30] <abitavenger> explain that please BlueEagle ...
[01:30] <erUSUL> which soundblaster
[01:30] <BlueEagle> abitavenger: alsamixer
[01:30] <erUSUL> pci128
[01:30] <erUSUL> pci512
[01:31] <BlueEagle> you will see MM on master and/or PCM by default
[01:31] <erUSUL> Live!
[01:31] <erUSUL> ...
[01:31] <Cashel> glxgears shows 1550 fps for fglrx driver on a radeon 9600 pro 2/ 256 megs of ram + athlon 2200 w/ 512 megs of ram ... does that seem somewhat low to anyone?? Any ideas on how I can raise it?
[01:31] <Bad_Magic> aha! i figured it out
[01:31] <abitavenger> live!
[01:31] <Bad_Magic> fucking gaim
[01:31] <Bad_Magic> yea that seems real low considering i get 4-5x that much
[01:31] <BlueEagle> abitavenger: also have a look-see on System->Preferences->MultimediaSystemsSelector in the gnome menu
[01:31] <Bad_Magic> with a 9600 mobility
[01:31] <tiagoooo> how to remove gnome ( i use xfce )?
[01:31] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:31] <VoX> Cashel: get a better video card
[01:31] <Cashel> yeah I thought so too..
[01:32] <Bad_Magic> i didnt tweak my fglrx drivers tho
[01:32] <Cashel> yes well... short of that, any way I can speed it up? :)
[01:32] <Bad_Magic> so maybe there is better mobile support
[01:32] <Bad_Magic> =\
[01:32] <cafuego> Cashel: The fglrx driver isn't ideal, it's aslways going to be relatively low.
[01:32] <Cashel> Bad_Magic, what card?
[01:32] <Bad_Magic> 9600 mobility radeon
[01:32] <VoX> Cashel: i was getting about the same from an nvidia fx5200
[01:32] <Bad_Magic> laptop card basically
[01:32] <BlueEagle> tiagoooo: Short on disk space? sudo apt-get remove gnome, but I'm not sure that is "a good idea"(tm)
[01:32] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:32] <Cashel> VoX, The_Vox from undernet?
[01:32] <VoX> no
[01:32] <Cashel> ahh ok
[01:33] <Bad_Magic> 26136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5227.200 FPS
[01:33] <Bad_Magic> 25904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5180.800 FPS
[01:33] <Bad_Magic> 26136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5227.200 FPS
[01:33] <BlueEagle> tiagoooo: Unless you're really short on disk space there's really no good reason to remove gnome. :)
[01:33] <tiagoooo> BlueEagle, yes... 500 mb only...
[01:33] <VoX> BlueEagle: unless they're using kde
[01:33] <Cashel> yeah see I recall getting something closer to that in suse .... wondering whats different here...
[01:33] <abitavenger> i dont know where to go from here, what to check, i'm a n00b
[01:33] <cafuego> 12096 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2419.193 FPS  (With mp3s playing, video play and beagle eating cpu cycles)
[01:33] <tiagoooo> BlueEagle, couse my pc dont support my 40gb harddisk
[01:33] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:33] <BlueEagle> tiagoooo: Ouch, well then you might want to install only the base system and go from there imo.
[01:33] <tiagoooo> and i use a 10gbhd as master....
[01:34] <Bad_Magic> yea well
[01:34] <Bad_Magic> mines a laptop
[01:34] <Unit134679> can someone help me with my menu problem? i cant see the Administration and Preferences menus...they show up blank
[01:34] <Bad_Magic> =P
[01:34] <BlueEagle> vox: There's no reason to remove gnome because you're using kde unless you're short of disk space.
[01:34] <VoX> tiagoooo: how do you mean "doesnt support it"
[01:34] <holycow> bios probably can't see it and boot from it
[01:34] <Bad_Magic> now... to isntall apache
[01:34] <Cashel> see I close everything when I test it and still get 1600 tops... even disabled dual head to no effect... internal/external gart shows same fps..
[01:34] <cafuego> tiagoooo: The easiest way to remove gnome is by using 'debfoster' from the command line. Check the 'P' key when any gnome packages are displayed.
[01:34] <ZeroDream> hi
[01:34] <tiagoooo> BlueEagle, i have  a  big hd but can use as master...
[01:34] <Bad_Magic> cashel: couldnt tell ya, by all accounts you should be faster than mine
[01:35] <cafuego> Bad_Magic: What cpu is yours?
[01:35] <Bad_Magic> =\
[01:35] <Bad_Magic> p4 2.8 HT
[01:35] <x_or> I have a USB disk which shows this when I run df:
[01:35] <BlueEagle> tiagoooo: That sentence made absolutely no sense at all to me.
[01:35] <Bad_Magic> gig of 400 mhz ddr
[01:35] <cafuego> That's probably why yours is faster then a 2200+
[01:35] <x_or> Output:  /dev/hdb1            192292124 183548848         0 100% /opt/wiab/binary_data/archive
[01:35] <Cashel> Bad_Magic, could I see your xorg.conf? I understand its a different card but may give me some idea...
[01:35] <x_or> If you divide 183548848 by 192292124, you get .95.  Why is this showing 100%?
[01:35] <Unit134679> can no one help me?
[01:35] <Quinthius> Cashel: glxgears is hardly  a benchmark.... i wouldn't worry much about it...
[01:35] <abitavenger> Bad_Magic,  what should i check for the sound drivers?
[01:35] <cafuego> x_or: 5% is reserved for root by default.
[01:36] <ZeroDream> hey people ubuntu 5.01 it works in pentium II 333 processor with 64 mb of ram?
[01:36] <cafuego> x_or: You cna tweak that number with 'tune2fs -m' or 'tune2fs -r'
[01:36] <erUSUL> x_or, linux always reserves 5% of space for root
[01:36] <crimsun> ZeroDream: yes
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> ZeroDream: slowly
[01:36] <cafuego> ZeroDream: No, There is no Ubuntu 5.01
[01:36] <Unit134679> i cant see Administration and Preferences in the System menu...they show up blank, can someone help me?
[01:36] <VoX> Ubuntu98?
[01:37] <cafuego> And 5.10 isn't officially released yet.
[01:37] <x_or> cafuego/erUSUL:  But, this is not the bootable HD, this is an external USB drive.  It reserves 5% on every mounted HD?
[01:37] <Quinthius> Cashel: i'm also getitng around 1400-1500, with a 9700 pro 128M
[01:37] <x_or> I assume this is for temp files, and the like?
[01:37] <doubletwist> I'm having issues here... when I close my laptop and open it a few times [it doesn't suspend, just turns off the screen] , xorg starts to take more and more CPU...
[01:37] <ZeroDream> cafuego sorry let me see the version
[01:37] <erUSUL> x_or, yes
[01:37] <cafuego> x_or: yes, it does that when you format it. Docs, mate.. they explain everything :-)
[01:37] <VoX> get rid of the ati and get a decent(nvidia) card
[01:37] <HrdwrBoB> VoX: nothing wrong with the ati per se
[01:37] <Unit134679> i cant see Administration and Preferences in the System menu...they show up blank, can someone help me?
[01:37] <BlueEagle> zerodream: Unless it has got some exotic hardware it will work. If it will work well is a different matter.
[01:38] <HrdwrBoB> aside from the drivers
[01:38] <cafuego> ZeroDream: If you want to install on that machine, do a 'server' install and then add a relatively light weight X setup like fluxbox.
[01:38] <Quinthius> screw nvidia
[01:38] <Cashel> I'm hardly going to drop 2+ bills for a new card
[01:38] <BlueEagle> zerodream: I assume you're meaning 5.04 (Hoary)
[01:38] <doubletwist> So I'm constantly having to restart Xorg... any info on fixing this or is it 'just the way it is'?
[01:38] <ZeroDream> cafuego_ ok
[01:38] <svu> is mac-on-linux supported on ppc64?
[01:38] <abitavenger> how do i change my sound drivers?
[01:38] <HrdwrBoB> Quinthius: you can screw them if you like, but the best cards to use in linux for 3d are nvidia
[01:38] <ZeroDream> BlueEagle yep
[01:38] <VoX> HrdwrBoB: yes, but they still fail it
[01:38] <VoX> :)
[01:38] <crimsun> abitavenger: from what to what?
[01:38] <cafuego> ZeroDream: because it's not going to like running Gnome.
[01:38] <ZeroDream> cafuego yes i have hoary 5.01
[01:38] <ZeroDream> sorry
[01:38] <abitavenger> from whatever it is now, to something soundblaster LIVE compatible
[01:38] <ZeroDream> 5.04
[01:38] <cafuego> ZeroDream: That uses close on 400MB ram by default here.
[01:38] <Quinthius> HrdwrBoB: maybe, good thing i dont care about 3d
[01:38] <Cashel> abitavenger, System > Preferences > Multimedia Selector
[01:39] <VoX> CAN YOU PUT BOB ON?
[01:39] <x_or> OK, here is a different question:  is there a command line option to set network settings?  network-admin requires X11 forwarding, or logging into the system via monitor/mouse/kbd.  I know how to use ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1, blah, but I'd prefer a "smarter" app./
[01:39] <BlueEagle> zerodream: What you could do is install the server system then install X and a light-weight window manager. IceWm is quite nice. Also fluxbox and xfce
[01:39] <cafuego> VoX: Yes, with crossover office.
[01:39] <BlueEagle> ...are quite nice
[01:39] <crimsun> abitavenger: lspci -v|grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/modules
[01:39] <Concord_Dawn> hmmm
[01:39] <ZeroDream> BlueEagle thanks
[01:39] <BlueEagle> zerodream: No problem.
[01:39] <ZeroDream> i'll give it a shot
[01:39] <Concord_Dawn> I'm trying to copy some files off a liveCD machine to another computer, and SFTP isn't working
[01:40] <Concord_Dawn> am I able to install packages in LiveCD?
[01:40] <Quinthius> HrdwrBoB: nvidia screwed over a lot of people when they bought out 3dfx and then refused to write drivers for those cards when XP came out
[01:40] <abitavenger> crimsun,  what does that mean
[01:40] <HrdwrBoB> Quinthius: though to be  fair, those cards sucked long before nvidia bought them ouyt
[01:40] <crimsun> abitavenger: type it in a terminal
[01:40] <abitavenger> Cashel,  i just change the output?
[01:40] <DonL> LiveCD saved my bacon just today. Trashed my MBR yesterday
[01:40] <abitavenger> Cashel,  cause i tried changing them all and it did nothing
[01:41] <erUSUL> edit the files in /etc/network/
[01:41] <Cashel> abitavenger, ohhh I must have misunderstood you sorry....
[01:41] <erUSUL> x_or,  edit the files in /etc/network/
[01:41] <crimsun> abitavenger: after you type it in a terminal, tell me the output
[01:41] <x_or> erUSUL:  So that app is vi, eh?
[01:41] <Quinthius> HrdwrBoB: my voodoo5 did quite well for that time period.... until upgrading to XP
[01:41] <abitavenger> okay, hold please :)
[01:41] <erUSUL> x_or, no emacs ;)
[01:41] <x_or> I prefer emacs as well.
[01:42] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, have you tried whith nc?
[01:42] <abitavenger> crimsun, 0000:02:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[01:42] <abitavenger> 0 snd_intel8x0
[01:42] <abitavenger> 1 snd_emu10k1
[01:43] <crimsun> abitavenger: if you're using Hoary, you can't easily switch
[01:43] <abitavenger> there was one before it, and its the onboard audio, i dont want that
[01:43] <abitavenger> :(
[01:43] <crimsun> abitavenger: do you want to always use the live as default?
[01:43] <abitavenger> yes
[01:43] <cafuego> Whatever gave you the silly idea XP is an _upgrade_ ?
[01:43] <abitavenger> onboard < *
[01:43] <Quinthius> cafuego: from 98 it is.
[01:43] <crimsun> abitavenger: then type this in a terminal: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:44] <cafuego> Quinthius: Ha, hardly :-)
[01:45] <Bad_Magic> considering i havent blue screened once in XP in 4 years
[01:45] <Bad_Magic> yea id say so
[01:45] <nalioth> Quinthius: that's debatable in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:45] <Bad_Magic> jump off your high horse for about a half minute
[01:45] <Bad_Magic> =P
[01:45] <Quinthius> nalioth: then tell the people who are asking me.
[01:45] <DonL> That's really good, Bad_Magic  Hope you're touching wood
[01:45] <abitavenger> crimsun,  just typed it in
[01:46] <Bad_Magic> ^^
[01:46] <crimsun> abitavenger: and the output?
[01:46] <Bad_Magic> that said, the only real erason i have it anymore is gaming and printing (fucking dell printer)
[01:46] <abitavenger> crimsun,  justin@justin:~$ echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:46] <abitavenger> correct?
[01:46] <crimsun> correct
[01:47] <crimsun> no
[01:47] <crimsun> you missed a closing "
[01:47] <abitavenger> ah
[01:47] <abitavenger> okay
[01:47] <abitavenger> re-did it
[01:47] <sorush20> what is my drive name if I only have one partition on one drive, is it hda1 or just hda
[01:48] <abitavenger> output = options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[01:48] <sorush20> ?
[01:48] <Concord_Dawn> sorush20, hda1.
[01:48] <nalioth> sorush20: hda1
[01:48] <Concord_Dawn> Although, you will most certainly have more than one partition.
[01:48] <erUSUL> sorush20, hda1
[01:48] <crimsun> abitavenger: good. Now reboot.
[01:48] <abitavenger> okay, i shall return
[01:48] <abitavenger> wait
[01:48] <abitavenger> how do i shutdown \ reboot with linux
[01:48] <abitavenger> me = n00b
[01:48] <Concord_Dawn> use the menu?
[01:49] <Concord_Dawn> System->Log Out
[01:49] <Zim> Hey does the fglrx package automaticly update my /etc/X11/xorgconfig or do I have to edit that myself?
[01:49] <abitavenger> why thank you
[01:49] <abitavenger> brb
[01:49] <nalioth> Zim: it should take care of everything for you
[01:49] <Cashel> bbias
[01:49] <tritium> hi nalioth
[01:49] <Quinthius> Zim: you need te edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <Concord_Dawn> any way to speed up the LiveCD?
[01:49] <nalioth> tritium: afternoon
[01:50] <Zim> Good so my 3d should work afetr rebooting.
[01:50] <nalioth> Zim:  "should"
[01:50] <nalioth> Zim: ymmv
[01:50] <Quinthius> Zim: you will have to use "fglrx" as the driver, istead of the default of "ati"
[01:50] <sorush20> Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL I type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/ and I get the error wrong fs type bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error
[01:50] <Concord_Dawn> yes.
[01:51] <Concord_Dawn> That's right
[01:51] <Concord_Dawn> don't specify -t
[01:51] <nalioth> sorush20: you need /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda
[01:51] <Concord_Dawn> should figure it out by itself.
[01:51] <crimsun> sorush20: you can't mount an entire block device
[01:51] <tritium> hi crimsun
[01:51] <Concord_Dawn> look at the error nalioth
[01:51] <crimsun> tritium: hi, how goes?
[01:51] <tritium> crimsun, not bad, thanks.  I'm on travel today.  How are you?
[01:51] <crimsun> Concord_Dawn: you can't mount an entire block device
[01:52] <__Phenotype__> help!!!!!!!
[01:52] <crimsun> tritium: not too bad
[01:52] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: sorry i'm rather lost on this technical stuff, but it looks like he missed the trailing 1
[01:52] <__Phenotype__> i cant get a program running, can someone help please
[01:52] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: tell us more
[01:52] <kkrizka_> hey guys, I need help with installing eclipse
[01:52] <Quinthius> Zim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:52] <sorush20> Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL now I get the error that I must supply file system type.
[01:52] <kkrizka_> I followed the wiki page, but I am missing the java program
[01:52] <__Phenotype__> i get this error in the console
[01:53] <Concord_Dawn> you shouldn't.
[01:53] <kkrizka_> which package is it in?
[01:53] <nalioth> !tell kkrizka_ about eclipse
[01:53] <__Phenotype__> ./kaid: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:53] <Zim> brb going to see if my card works now.
[01:53] <nalioth> kkrizka_: ubotu is your friend, (check PMs)
[01:53] <imterro> hye, im just a little curious... how would i get this to detect my modem... it connects through usb
[01:53] <kkrizka_> nalioth: the page I got is the one I followed
[01:53] <Bad_Magic> dunno
[01:53] <nalioth> kkrizka_: do you have all your repos enabled?
[01:53] <erUSUL> sorush20, use mount -t <filesystemtype> /dev...etc. ext3 most likely
[01:53] <Bad_Magic> =\
[01:54] <Concord_Dawn> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
[01:54] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[01:54] <kkrizka_> nalioth: yes
[01:54] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with recovering a computer?
[01:54] <Concord_Dawn> Windows will not boot
[01:54] <Concord_Dawn> and sftp won't work.
[01:54] <nalioth> kkrizka_: open synaptic and see your java status (how many java pkgs you have)
[01:54] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: tried the livecd?
[01:54] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, is nc instaled on the liveCD
[01:54] <kkrizka_> nalioth: java status?
[01:55] <__Phenotype__> nalioth... can you help?
[01:55] <Concord_Dawn> nalioth, yes.
[01:55] <Concord_Dawn> NC erUSUL ?
[01:55] <Bad_Magic> g
[01:55] <nalioth> kkrizka_: you need java dev pkgs and such, i believe
[01:55] <erUSUL> is a command that can be used to send files over a network
[01:55] <kkrizka_> nalioth: do you know what they are called? I searched for java and got a lot of pkgs
[01:55] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: open synaptic and look for the file the error mentioned
[01:55] <erUSUL> network cat nc
[01:56] <nalioth> kkrizka_: not off the top of my head, no
[01:56] <Gobbla> where do i configure my gfx card?
[01:56] <__Phenotype__> nalioth, i did but the package was only like 3. something in synaptic
[01:56] <kkrizka_> nalioth: sun-j2re? I found it on the wiki, let me see
[01:56] <__Phenotype__> this error is ./kaid: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:56] <helvete> sorry i got disconnected
[01:56] <Concord_Dawn> network cat?
[01:56] <Concord_Dawn> plz explain more in a query.
[01:56] <helvete> is there anyway i can get ubuntu to detect my modem(usb)
[01:56] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[01:56] <h17m4n> how do I view the list of channels in this irc server?
[01:57] <nalioth> kkrizka_: no not that one
[01:57] <helvete> h17m4n: /list
[01:57] <Quinthius> Gobbla: most likely you want: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xerg
[01:57] <h17m4n> thx
[01:57] <sorush20> I can't run grub from ubuntu live..
[01:57] <Gobbla> Quinthius: what does that do excactly?
[01:57] <kkrizka_> nalioth: why not?
[01:57] <nalioth> kkrizka_: there are java pkgs for developement (search synaptic using the 'names and contents' setting)
[01:57] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell sorush20 about grub
[01:57] <ohphracku> f
[01:57] <sorush20> nalioth I'm trying to fix my grub error 17 on the laptop..
[01:57] <erUSUL> Concord_Dawn, i don't chat too much... what is a query?
[01:57] <helvete> can anyone help me?
[01:57] <_mike> Hi, i installed KBFX to change my panel look in KDE...but it doesnt show up in any of my menus
[01:57] <Quinthius> Gobbla: asks you a bunch of questions and then writes /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <Gobbla> I just wanna like do some settings (GUI) and install the drivers and usch..
[01:57] <Concord_Dawn> sorush20, ubotu gave you 2 links, check out the second one.
[01:57] <helvete> erUSUL: /query <nick>
[01:58] <Concord_Dawn> erUSUL, /query nick
[01:58] <Gobbla> *such
[01:58] <Concord_Dawn> private chat window.
[01:58] <__Phenotype__> nalioth, know where i can find that libstdc++.so.6
[01:58] <kkrizka_> nalioth:free-java-sdk?
[01:58] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: hang on a minute
[01:58] <__Phenotype__> thanks
[01:58] <nalioth> kkrizka_: try that
[01:58] <helvete> well anyone care to help?
[01:58] <Quinthius> Gobbla: that will let you select the driver to use,video card, monitor type, keyboard, mouse, ets
[01:58] <helvete> it would be much appreciated
[01:58] <Quinthius> Gobbla: other than that, i'm not sure what you're wanting...
[01:59] <kkrizka_> when is next ubuntu (breezy?) supposed to come out?
[01:59] <crimsun> october
[01:59] <Gobbla> isnt there some program for graphics card?
[01:59] <ohphracku> whats tthe issue helvete
[01:59] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: here is one to get you started "libstdc++6"
[01:59] <Quinthius> Gobbla: what goal are you wanting to accomplish?
[01:59] <__Phenotype__> ok, wher can i get it?/
[01:59] <Gobbla> getting the latest drivers and get up my fps
[01:59] <helvete> ohphracku, im trying to set up my internet con, but i cant seem to get ubuntu to find my modem
[02:00] <Quinthius> Gobbla: what card?
[02:00] <Gobbla> thats the thing, dont remember :/
[02:00] <Quinthius> Gobbla: try lspci
[02:00] <Gobbla> radeon something
[02:00] <nalioth> kkrizka_: in october
[02:00] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: use synaptic to install it
[02:00] <ohphracku> have u checked the ubuntu wiki, forums, google ?
[02:00] <__Phenotype__> i did......
[02:01] <__Phenotype__> and all i see is 3. something
[02:01] <helvete> i checked ubuntu
[02:01] <Chadza> Hey, if you use alien to make a .deb file, is that something you can share with other people?
[02:01] <helvete> wiki
[02:01] <kkrizka_> nalioth: thanks, it works but I get a error now, checking the log shows it was some kind of exeption
[02:01] <Chadza> Or is it specific to your machine?
[02:01] <Gobbla> radeon 9200
[02:01] <Gobbla> Quinthius:
[02:01] <Seveas> Chadza, you can share it
[02:01] <nalioth> Chadza: not advised, but yes you could
[02:01] <Seveas> what are you converting
[02:01] <Seveas> ?
[02:01] <Chadza> Why is it not advised?
[02:02] <Quinthius> Gobbla: hmm i'm not sure if that card uses the fglrx driver or drm...
[02:02] <Seveas> Chadza, finding a native .deb file is better
[02:02] <ohphracku> helvete, what modem
[02:02] <kkrizka_> http://pastebin.com/357507
[02:02] <Gobbla> Quinthius: ok
[02:02] <Chadza> It's for java sdk 1.5, I don't know of one that exists for that.
[02:03] <Gobbla> its fglrx
[02:03] <reiki> woo-hoo! I'm performing my first wedding ceremony in October. :)  I know.... it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Ubuntu, but this is the only irc channel I'm in... heheheh
[02:03] <Quinthius> Gobbla: the package info seems to say that it is... so check out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:03] <Seveas> Chadza, that's the BAD way of installing java
[02:03] <ohphracku> helvete, Have you tried the networking tool in the system administration menu?
[02:03] <Chadza> It is?
[02:03] <Seveas> the VERY BAD way even
[02:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there anything similar to 'ncurses-devel' package?
[02:03] <Chadza> It's the only way I could find that works.
[02:03] <Seveas> !tell Chadza about java
[02:03] <Chadza> And there have been no problems.
[02:03] <Invader_Zim> Ok it works now all I need to do is hunt down the codecs I enabled the other repositories but do not know the name of the default mp3 and win32 codec packages.
[02:03] <Seveas> ubotu, told you the correct way
[02:03] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:03] <nalioth> kkrizka_: can you compile stuff with your eclipse?
[02:04] <Gobbla> Quinthius: okay
[02:04] <kkrizka_> nalioth: can't even start it :P
[02:04] <dj_> Reiki: do you get to massage the bride or the groom?...
[02:04] <Quinthius> Gobbla: have you installed xerg-driver-fglrx already? or haven't done anything to it since installing?
[02:04] <reiki> dj_, here's hoping! :)
[02:04] <Gobbla> nope i havent
[02:04] <Quinthius> Gobbla: ok, follow that guide then
[02:04] <Gobbla> ok thx
[02:04] <VoX> why isnt azureus available in breezy?
[02:04] <dj_> Query: I am trying to install SKYPE. I have the .deb package.
[02:04] <Gobbla> if the site would load that would be great
[02:05] <nalioth> kkrizka_: is there more eclipse stuff in synaptic you have not installed?
[02:05] <crimsun> VoX: because it isn't. You can install it following many sets of hints.
[02:05] <dj_> I assume I use the Synaptic Package Manager to do the installation, but...
[02:05] <Gobbla> Quinthius: the site seems down
[02:05] <kkrizka_> nalioth: there is nothing in synaptics to do with eclipse, I'm doing it manually as suggested by the wiki
[02:05] <VoX> crimsun: righto
[02:05] <dj_> I have no idea how to make SPM see the package.
[02:05] <Quinthius> Gobbla: loads for me..
[02:05] <fred_> Hello ! I tried to install the ati drivers on Breezy colony 4 but it doesnt work :S
[02:05] <Gobbla> strange
[02:05] <kkrizka_> nalioth: that's why I waant breezy, has eclipse in it
[02:05] <VoX> crimsun: same deal with vlc then?
[02:06] <fred_> I followed that method : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:06] <helvete> breeze is a developer version?
[02:06] <ohphracku> yes
[02:06] <Gobbla> now
[02:06] <crimsun> VoX: vlc is in universe.
[02:06] <ohphracku> testing
[02:06] <helvete> what differences are there?
[02:06] <Seveas> !breezy
[02:06] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[02:06] <nalioth> kkrizka_: your error log says you are missing things, perhaps you can find them where you got eclipse?
[02:06] <ohphracku> in features?
[02:06] <helvete> except that it will come with eclipse and other compilers?
[02:07] <kkrizka_> nalioth: eclipse.org or something, I'll look, thanks
[02:07] <ohphracku> im not to in tune with breezy so....
[02:07] <__Phenotype__> can anyone help me find libstdc++.so.6
[02:07] <helvete> eclipse is cool
[02:07] <sn0n> hey hey hey guys
[02:07] <Invader_Zim> It's libmad0 I need right?
[02:08] <tritium> __Phenotype__, have you installed build-essential?
[02:08] <sn0n> i've got quite the silly question.. when gnome 2.12 comes, hoary is goin to include it.. right?
[02:08] <__Phenotype__> no
[02:08] <fred_> does someone know if ati drivers are supposed to work in colony 4 ?
[02:08] <neri_> why i cant log in as a root in the gnome
[02:08] <helvete> ohphracku: check your pvt please?
[02:08] <sn0n> neri_, root is disabled
[02:08] <sn0n> neri_, use sudo
[02:08] <ohphracku> ?
[02:08] <__Phenotype__> tritium, where should i go for that
[02:09] <neri_> thanks
[02:09] <tritium> __Phenotype__, you can install it from synaptic, or aptitude, or apt-get
[02:09] <Chadza> Can I reset rhythmbox so I can change the way the library works (Setting up and controling the database)?
[02:09] <helvete> neri: you can make a root pw, sudo passwd
[02:09] <sn0n> no problem
[02:09] <__Phenotype__> ok
[02:09] <__Phenotype__> then what afer i install that
[02:09] <crimsun> __Phenotype__: it's in the libstdc++6 package
[02:09] <nalioth> neri_: you will screw up your userland settings by logging into gnome as root
[02:09] <sn0n> helvete, dont that encourage impropter management of systems ?
[02:09] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: i told you how to do it
[02:09] <sn0n> improper*
[02:09] <__Phenotype__> im not getting it
[02:10] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: start synaptic and install libstdc++6
[02:10] <tritium> __Phenotype__, then you're ready to install the package crimsun mentioned, and you should have a nice set of development tools at your disposal.
[02:10] <__Phenotype__> nalioth, i know you siad it was in synaptic, but im not finding it
[02:10] <tritium> __Phenotype__, oh, you just need the lib?  Just get what crimsun and nalioth suggest
[02:10] <Seveas> libstdc++6: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[02:10] <__Phenotype__> ok
[02:11] <koalah> can I post a small error?
[02:11] <helvete> can anyone help me get my modem detected? its usb
[02:11] <Seveas> koalah, on the pastebin :)
[02:11] <nalioth> tritium: then answer circular questions
[02:12] <tritium> nalioth, good idea :)
[02:12] <sn0n> so will gnome 2.12 be included as a update in hoary ? or do i need to wait for breezy ?
[02:12] <crimsun> sn0n: it's essentially in breezy already
[02:12] <nalioth> sn0n: it will be in breezy
[02:12] <__Phenotype__> seveas, libstc++6 is not in usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[02:12] <sn0n> crimsun, i dont want to use breezy right now thou.. it breaks alot of things
[02:13] <sn0n> thnx nalioth
[02:13] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: we know that. your error told us. you need to install it
[02:13] <crimsun> sn0n: what does it break?
[02:13] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: open a terminal please
[02:13] <sn0n> vmware mainly
[02:13] <__Phenotype__> done
[02:13] <koalah> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2003
[02:13] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: type "sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 "
[02:13] <sn0n> but also postfix does some weird crap when im shutting the system down, and freezes at postfix
[02:13] <nalioth> !tell __Phenotype__ about synaptic
[02:13] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: read what ubotu sent you, please
[02:14] <sn0n> synaptec and apt-get (cmd line) both break and i cant update..
[02:14] <sn0n> lots of crap
[02:14] <crimsun> sn0n: you can work around vmware with an older kernel (Hoary's)
[02:14] <Seveas> koalah, you cannot chmod windows partitions
[02:14] <Seveas> you need to specify the file/dir mode when mounting
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> phenotype@Delltop:~$ sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> Reading package lists... Done
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> E: Couldn't find package libstdc++6
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> phenotype@Delltop:~$
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> \
[02:14] <Seveas> DO NOT PASTE in here
[02:14] <__Phenotype__> sorry
[02:14] <koalah> i want my regular user to be able to read files
[02:14] <Seveas> and ad some internet sources to your sources.list
[02:15] <crimsun> __Phenotype__: you need the main repository enabled
[02:15] <DewDude> has anyone gotten nvu to run on ubuntu
[02:15] <__Phenotype__> crimsun, how
[02:15] <neri_> what p2p program do you recommend to me?
[02:15] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: paste in #flood or use a pastebin
[02:15] <JustLink> hey
[02:15] <Seveas> koalah, then add uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0022,fmask=0133 to the mount options
[02:15] <erUSUL> neri_, mldonkey
[02:15] <JustLink> can u tell me how to install a c compiler
[02:15] <koalah> fstab?
[02:15] <nalioth> __Phenotype__: ubotu is gonna send you some info
[02:15] <Seveas> JustLink, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:15] <nalioth> !tell __Phenotype__ about sources
[02:16] <Seveas> koalah, yes
[02:16] <JustLink> thanks
[02:16] <koalah> k, thanks
[02:17] <holotone> Could someone point me to a list of Wireless NICs that are automatically recognized on install w/ Ubuntu?
[02:17] <Seveas> any atheros based card will do
[02:17] <holotone> Or recommend a reasonably priced one that does a good job?
[02:18] <holotone> prism II?
[02:18] <Seveas> troublesome
[02:18] <arentie> Seveas, I rebooted my computer, and now my ndiswrapper is all screwed-up
[02:18] <crimsun> the centrino chipset based ones work fine
[02:18] <holotone> Who makes atheros based cards?
[02:18] <crimsun> (ipw2x00)
[02:18] <arentie> Seveas, I'm following the instructions at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[02:18] <cevizoglu> netgear
[02:18] <Invader_Zim> ma111
[02:18] <sorush20> Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL crimsun I have tried what you have said file system ext3 and ext2, with the command mount -t and with just mount. In mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/work, I get the error wrong fs type, bad  option, bad super block on dev/hda1 missing code page or other error, the dmesg | tail returns the can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1, I can't run grun in livecd mode .. any other suggestions... and I have read full the links you have sent bu
[02:19] <JustLink> hey Seveas tell me that command again please
[02:19] <crimsun> sorush20: don't pass -t to mont
[02:19] <Seveas> JustLink, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:19] <JustLink> to install the c compiler
[02:19] <crimsun> sorush20: s/mont/mount/
[02:19] <arentie> Seveas, I cannot run the command: dpkg -i --force-overwrite ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.1-1_i386.deb
[02:19] <holotone> so basically any netgear card would be good?
[02:20] <sorush20> crimsun: what do you mean don't pass -t to mount..
[02:20] <Invader_Zim> Finding drivers that will work with ndiswrapper can be fun.
[02:20] <Seveas> arentie, mixing thid party modules is a bad idea
[02:20] <Invader_Zim> You need to find some in a zip file and unzip that.
[02:20] <Seveas> either use just these or just the ubuntu ones
[02:20] <crimsun> sorush20: don't type -t
[02:20] <neri_> is somebody from argentina or somewhere close?
[02:20] <erUSUL> sorush20, try parted /dev/hda; then the comand print to see your partitions
[02:20] <holotone> hows about a good PCMCIA one w/ external antenna jack?
[02:21] <sorush20> crimsun: I've dont that but I get the message that I need to provide an fs type..
[02:21] <JustLink> and can anyone tell me how to install latest tcl please
[02:21] <cevizoglu> anyone know if airport extreme is supported with ubuntu breezy?
[02:21] <arentie> Seveas, I don't understand the problem since this is what I am instructed to do on the web page.  Where can I find a different set of instructions?
[02:21] <Invader_Zim> orinocco or entersys
[02:21] <nalioth> cevizoglu: nope
[02:21] <holotone> Invader_Zim: thanks
[02:21] <cevizoglu> nalioth: good, I just bought a netgear wireless card  :D
[02:21] <nalioth> cevizoglu: talk to broadcom, without their support, NO linux will have APX support
[02:21] <holotone> Do any of the netgears have external antenna jacks (PCMCIA)?
[02:21] <JustLink> hey Seveas can you tell how to install the lates tcl version
[02:22] <crimsun> JustLink: 8.4.11 (stable), 8.5a3 (unstable)
[02:22] <JustLink> oiks
[02:22] <bpuccio> anyone here have a terastation and use it as a SMB printer server?
[02:22] <Invader_Zim> Ok anyone know the name of the win32 codec package in horay multiverse?
[02:22] <crimsun> w32codecs
[02:22] <popey> win32codecs
[02:22] <Invader_Zim> win32codecs the usual name does not work.
[02:22] <popey> oh
[02:22] <bpuccio> Invader_Zim: I think its in hoary extras
[02:22] <Agrajag> it's not in multiverse, is it?
[02:22] <Agrajag> yeah
[02:23] <sorush20> erUSUL: I tried the parted and I don't see file system on theh extended partition
[02:23] <holotone> Is the Orinoco Gold classic card a decent card?
[02:23] <Chadza> When you first run Rhythmbox, it asks you if you want it to manage your library.  I said no, but now I want to say yes.  Any way for me to reset this?
[02:23] <bpuccio> Invader_Zim: and its w32codecs
[02:23] <kkrizka_> Invader_Zim: w32codecs, just isntalling them now
[02:23] <Quinthius> Chadza: just import directories from the menu... that's all the initial setup does
[02:23] <holotone> I know it only does 802.11b, but for only $25, the price can't be beat.
[02:24] <Invader_Zim> How do I add extras I enabled multiveres and universe?
[02:24] <erUSUL> sorush20, you have linux on an extended partition?
[02:24] <holotone> and I've heard good things about it, but are the Orinoco Gold drivers included w/ Ubuntu, as in plug 'n play style?
[02:24] <sorush20> erUSUL: I have tree partitions.. linux swapr on logical then boot on primary
[02:24] <nalioth> !tell Invader_Zim about sources
[02:24] <bpuccio> Invader_Zim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28extras%29
[02:25] <bpuccio> !tell bpuccio about sources
[02:25] <JustLink> botmsg.c: In function `unsigned_int_to_base10':
[02:25] <JustLink> botmsg.c:138: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[02:25] <JustLink> hey
[02:25] <JustLink> what does this mean?
[02:25] <arentie> Seveas, where are the ubuntu drivers?
[02:25] <sorush20> erUSUL: it seems to be on the extended partition but it is the way it was installed as default by Ubuntu
[02:26] <crimsun> JustLink: it means you need a newer version of gcc
[02:26] <JustLink> aah thanks
[02:26] <pepsi> how can i reinstall grub?
[02:26] <cevizoglu> I'll drive ubuntu for ya, $4.50 an hour
[02:26] <crimsun> JustLink: why do you have to have gcc 4?
[02:26] <erUSUL> sorush20, what filesystem types do you see in parted
[02:27] <sorush20> pepsi: what exactly is the problem
[02:27] <erUSUL> ?
[02:27] <DewDude> is anyone even awake?
[02:27] <crimsun> all asleep
[02:27] <neri_> how can i get the pass? how can i be the owner of a linux file?
[02:27] <sorush20> erUSUL: I see linux swap only.. as the logical and primary and extended ther eare nothing..
[02:27] <nalioth> we' all out playing golf
[02:28] <sorush20> DewDude: yes i am awake..
[02:28] <pepsi> sorush20, linux is on hdd, grub is on the MBR of hda, and hdb didnt exist before, but now it does, so i think grub tries to boot hdb instead of hdd
[02:28] <erUSUL> sorush20,  what have you done to the disk?
[02:28] <Invader_Zim> Cool that worked
[02:28] <sorush20> erUSUL: this has happende with out me knowing a number of times..
[02:30] <pepsi> sorush20, can i dpkg-reconfigure grub?
[02:31] <arentie> Does anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2004
[02:31] <zblach> its weird. when i turn on my computer, i get the drums at the log on screen, but i can't listen to any sound otherwise
[02:31] <arentie> Does anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2004
[02:31] <erUSUL> pepsi, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the device names
[02:31] <Alos> HI guys
[02:32] <erUSUL> pepsi, to the new ones
[02:32] <Alos> If i want to install 504 release can I make a /home partition??
[02:32] <Seveas> yes
[02:33] <nalioth> Alos: yes you can
[02:33] <arentie> Does anyone know how to bypass the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2004
[02:33] <Seveas> arentie: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:33] <gsanse> Good night everybody. Does anyone know how to instal a Creative dxr3 board in Ubuntu?
[02:33] <pepsi> erSUL how would that fix it? /boot is on hdd, which never moved, but how will it find /boot if i added a drive to hdb?
[02:33] <eva-02> grep syntax to search for default.cfg?
[02:34] <pepsi> i need to reinstall the MBR
[02:34] <arentie> Seveas, through your support you suggest that I not use third party drivers...where are the supported drivers?
[02:34] <Alos> that's all that i need to leave my  data alone???
[02:35] <JustLink> crimsun, i installed a leter version but still the error comes
[02:35] <Seveas> in linux-restricted-module-something
[02:35] <Seveas> just install linux-686 if you have an intel cpu
[02:35] <Seveas> or linux-k7 if you have an amd
[02:35] <arentie> Seveas, now I cannot re-construct my ndiswrapper, and suddenly I can't get any support
[02:35] <sorush20> erUSUL: what else can I do to fix this problem
[02:35] <Hergiswi> My name is Christopher. How are you? I am fine. I am 14 years old, and I live in the ocean. I live off of fish sperm and clam urine. I also enjoy music. This is all I have to say.
[02:35] <Hergiswi> fuck, stupid /amsg
[02:35] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey ppl =)
[02:36] <JustLink> hey
[02:36] <JustLink> ort you suggest that I not use third party drivers...where are the supported drivers?
[02:36] <arentie> Seveas, this undermines my faith in this community...
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the command to install a package from DEBIAN>>???
[02:36] <JustLink> dns.c: In function `block_dns_hostbyip':
[02:36] <JustLink> dns.c:449: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[02:36] <wastrel> looking for help getting ggv to talk to my printer.   CUPS is configured and working, printing works from other apps but not ggv.  I can't find anywhere to configure printing in ggv.  any ideas?
[02:36] <JustLink> can anyone tell how to fix this error?
[02:36] <Seveas> arentie, I give you support by answering the question, what more do you want???
[02:36] <zblach> Inf3ctedFx, dpkg
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> a package ending on .deb?
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> yes.. thats the one I forgot lol
[02:36] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> dkpg pakage.deb  right?
[02:36] <zblach> yup
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> is sudo?? or sudo -s
[02:37] <Seveas> sudo
[02:37] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[02:37] <zblach> just plain old pseudo
[02:37] <Inf3ctedFx> so it will be:  sudo dkpg -i filename.deb
[02:37] <JustLink> hmm..
[02:37] <malvo1> so when does ubuntu migrate to 2.12?
[02:37] <Seveas> hoary: never
[02:37] <JustLink> hey anyone tell me how to fix the error please
[02:37] <JustLink> dns.c: In function `block_dns_hostbyip':
[02:38] <JustLink> dns.c:449: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[02:38] <Seveas> breezy: already ahs 2.12
[02:38] <Seveas> JustLink: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:38] <erUSUL> sorush20,  what you get from $ ls /dev/ | grep hd
[02:38] <arentie> Seveas, the question is: what is the supported methodolgy of installing the ndiswrapper if the method as stated on Ubuntu's homepage does not work?
[02:38] <malvo1> breezy > hoary?
[02:38] <cevizoglu> Seveas: you need a bot for that
[02:38] <crimsun> System> About GNOME> Version: 2.12.0
[02:38] <Alos> which desktop is better gnome or kubuntu???
[02:38] <malvo1> gnome
[02:38] <malvo1> i've tried both, but the gnome desktop was more stable
[02:38] <Serpentwolf> fluxbox :P
[02:38] <cevizoglu> Alos: gnome
[02:38] <Xorlev> I like KDE the best, but Gnome is nice too.
[02:38] <malvo1> not to mention, it looks more professional
[02:38] <Inf3ctedFx> look this was my problem I have a wireless card aBroadcom BCM 4306 and ubuntu cannot support it.. so I when to this website  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ and accourding what it said.., is eather I can install the debian pkg or the source
[02:39] <Xorlev> Its a matter of personal preference really.
[02:39] <bimberi> Alos: don't ask that question :P
[02:39] <Seveas> arentie, and i said: install linux-686 or linux-k7
[02:39] <wastrel> anyone know how i can easily print double-sided on a non duplex printer?
[02:39] <malvo1> i used to use kubuntu, but I switched to gnome
[02:39] <Xorlev> Though Kubuntu is a bit less stable.
[02:39] <malvo1> a lot less stable
[02:40] <Xorlev> Indeed.
[02:40] <Inf3ctedFx> ok brb
[02:40] <arentie> Seveas, ok fine.  Where and how to I access documentation on how to install this?
[02:40] <Xorlev> I'll probably switch to Gnome until Kubuntu Breezy comes out.
[02:40] <malvo1> amarok and k3b are nice, though
[02:40] <Seveas> arentie, same as every other package, with synaptic or apt-get :)
[02:40] <malvo1> gaim is infinitely better than kopete
[02:40] <arentie> Seveas. so I simply type: apt-get linux-686?
[02:41] <Seveas> apt-get install linux-686
[02:41] <Alos> there are a minimun size for / partition???
[02:41] <Seveas> and reboot
[02:41] <Seveas> Alos, how much were you planning to give it?
[02:41] <malvo1> is there a way to install a package without it configuring anything?
[02:41] <cyphase> it's amazing how little you pay attention to your background
[02:41] <Alos> just the basic
[02:41] <arentie> Seveas, how do I know which one i should use between 686 or k7?
[02:41] <Xorlev> I use gaim in KDE malvol, as well as Synaptic.
[02:41] <cyphase> i just changed my background after more then a week, maybe 2
[02:41] <malvo1> cyphase: make everything transparent
[02:41] <Seveas> arentie, do you have a pentium processor or amd?
[02:42] <arentie> Seveas, I have a pentium
[02:42] <cyphase> and in 5 seconds i had to look through my background list to remember
[02:42] <Seveas> arentie, linux-686
[02:42] <malvo1> yea, but usually when I use one desktop over another, I use applications native to that environment
[02:42] <arentie> ok, I will try that...thank you
[02:42] <malvo1> also, I like evolution more than kmail as well
[02:43] <Alos> Seveas: just the basic, I started to learn linux
[02:43] <wastrel> evo is a depressing outlook cline
[02:43] <wastrel> clone
[02:43] <cevizoglu> I think gaim and xchat be merged into one app
[02:43] <cevizoglu> s/be/should be/g
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> cevizoglu: .. or not
[02:43] <wastrel> gaim has an irc plugin
[02:43] <malvo1> is there a way to register with nickserv automatically through gaim?
[02:43] <Seveas> Alos, give it a few GB, then you can play around
[02:44] <Seveas> malvo1, use your nickserv password as server password
[02:44] <malvo1> thanks
[02:44] <Seveas> cevizoglu, gaim can handle irc already
[02:44] <malvo1> that was my only qualm
[02:44] <erUSUL> cevizoglu, unix mantra "tools do only one thing and do it well"
[02:44] <Alos> Seveas: 3.5 for / and 2.5 for /home
[02:44] <Seveas> more than enough
[02:44] <arentie> Seveas, so now I reboot...then do I go through the same protocol of installing the ndiswrapper, or is it supposed to work automatically assuming that my wifi card is a linksys?
[02:45] <Alos> Seveas: and 502 mb fos swap, I have 256 on ram
[02:45] <cevizoglu> erUSUL: they **are** virtually the same thing
[02:45] <Seveas> arentie, it should pickup any drivers you already installed with ndiswrapper -i
[02:45] <erUSUL> chat is no im
[02:45] <Paradoxx> hello all, can some1 help me please...
[02:45] <Seveas> Alos, swap could be a bit bigger, try 768
[02:45] <wastrel> paradoxx just ask the question, don't ask if you can ask :] 
[02:45] <Paradoxx> for some reason the video for .mkv files arn't player
[02:45] <Paradoxx> how come?
[02:46] <Paradoxx> wastrel: it was coming :)
[02:46] <arentie> Seveas, so I don't need to run the command "modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[02:46] <Alos> Seveas: ups, it's installing right now
[02:46] <Seveas> Paradoxx, you might need gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg or ffmpeg
[02:46] <Seveas> arentie, isn't ndiswrapper listedn in /etc/modules?
[02:47] <Alos> Seveas: I'll do on a toshiba tecra 8000, it will work
[02:47] <nalioth> Paradoxx: vlc will play .mkv files
[02:47] <Paradoxx> Seveas: i already have it
[02:47] <kkrizka_> Invader_Zim: problem was the java wm, I put the sum vm (suggested at #eclipse) and it works now
[02:47] <nalioth> kkrizka_: cool!
[02:48] <wastrel> i'm looking for help getting ggv to talk to my printer.... or on how to print double-sided from another pdf viewer...
[02:49] <Paradoxx> Seveas: anything else i can try?
[02:49] <arentie> Seveas, yes it is listed in /etc/modules
[02:49] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - i think i;m being dumb - but i can't work out how to connect to my router wired - i can find out how for wirelessly, and i can find out how without a router - but not the usual wired via a router
[02:49] <Seveas> arentie, then you don't have to modprobe manually
[02:49] <Seveas> anyway - 2:49 pm here - suspending /proc/self
[02:49] <arentie> Seveas, so a simple reboot will do the trick assuming that the drivers and hardware are installed
[02:50] <bimberi> Seveas: pm? you are tired :)
[02:51] <Paradoxx> vlc didn't work
[02:51] <Paradoxx> ^o)
[02:51] <arentie> Seveas, I should be all set to do a reboot, correct?
[02:53] <khermans> Anyone get vlc working on amd64 -- its not playing videos, just hangs :-(
[02:53] <Cody`> anyone mind assisting me getting media players working?
[02:53] <Cody`> I've installed xmms, bmp, mplayer, xine
[02:53] <Inf3ctedFx> mm ppl  sorry 4 bother u a lot...
[02:54] <Cody`> all lockup on playing of sounds
[02:54] <Inf3ctedFx> I was trying to install the pgk but it said command not found
[02:54] <Cody`> and if I run mplayer sdl file.mp3 it says
[02:54] <crimsun> Cody`: have you configured them to use esound?
[02:54] <Cody`> audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[02:54] <Cody`> alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
[02:54] <Cody`> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[02:54] <crimsun> Cody`: mplayer -ao esd foo.mp3
[02:54] <Cody`> let me try
[02:55] <Cody`> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[02:55] <Cody`> Audio: no sound
[02:55] <Cody`> Video: no video
[02:55] <Inf3ctedFx> and this is what I did.....    sudo dkpg -i filename.deb
[02:55] <Cody`> xmms won't even play them
[02:55] <khermans> using esd works
[02:55] <Cody`> it locks up as well
[02:55] <khermans> why doesnt default work?
[02:55] <Inf3ctedFx> and when I use "sudo" is asking me 4 password
[02:55] <crimsun> khermans: for what app? oss emulation is tied up by esd.
[02:55] <sorush20> erUSUL: this has happende with out me knowing a number of times..
[02:55] <Inf3ctedFx> I type my user password and the say "sorry"
[02:56] <crimsun> Cody`: in XMMS, configure the output plugin to be esound
[02:56] <crimsun> Cody`: same for beep-media-player
[02:56] <khermans> crimsun, i try to use vlc, but it hangs
[02:56] <Cody`> let me try
[02:56] <crimsun> khermans: install vlc-esd
[02:56] <Inf3ctedFx> anyone knows why?
[02:56] <khermans> crimsun, why doesnt the default sound daemon work all the time/
[02:56] <Cody`> crimsun, once again I owe you
[02:56] <Cody`> thanks
[02:57] <khermans> i somehow lost sound now too, no "beeps" why i click things
[02:57] <crimsun> khermans: esd works by default. Have you changed any settings?
[02:57] <khermans> crimsun, i installed ubuntu -- using it for a while, not sound isnt working
[02:57] <khermans> when it reboots, might work again
[02:58] <crimsun> khermans: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:58] <brownie17> nalioth: what is the url you should enter when using webmin?
[02:58] <Lunar_Lamp> i've made a pretty stupid mistake - i changed default settings for eth0 without knowing what i was doing - didn't make a record - and now want to put them back to default.  where can i get them from?
[02:58] <khermans> crimsun, snd_intel8x0
[02:58] <sorush20> Concord_Dawn: nalioth erUSUL crimsun I have tried what you have said file system ext3 and ext2, with the command mount -t and with just mount. In mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/work, I get the error wrong fs type, bad  option, bad super block on dev/hda1 missing code page or other error, the dmesg | tail returns the can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1, I can't run grun in livecd mode .. any other suggestions... and I have read full the links you have sent bu
[02:59] <crimsun> sorush20: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/work  <-- what happens?
[02:59] <Cody`> crimsun, esd isn't in mplayer options :/
[02:59] <Inf3ctedFx> mmm
[02:59] <nalioth> brownie17: idk what webmin is, sorry
[02:59] <brownie17> nalioth: ok, sory
[02:59] <sorush20> crimsun: error..
[02:59] <Inf3ctedFx> can anyone help me here?
[03:00] <crimsun> Cody`: echo "ao=esd" >> ~/.mplayer/config
[03:00] <Paradoxx> how do i get .mkv files to play properly...no video
[03:00] <nalioth> sorush20: you couldnt chroot into your existing HD installation?
[03:00] <brownie17> seveas: what is the url you should use in your browser when trying to use wemin?
[03:00] <brownie17> seveas: webmin*
[03:00] <sorush20> crimsun: must specify file system..
[03:00] <crimsun> sorush20: paste the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:00] <nalioth> brownie17: have you tried in a terminal "man webmin" ?
[03:00] <Inf3ctedFx> !dkpg
[03:00] <ubotu> Inf3ctedFx: Wish i knew
[03:01] <sorush20> nalioth I can use the live cd but can't see the hda1,2,5 mounted anywhere..
[03:01] <brownie17> nalioth: no, i will
[03:01] <janga> browniel: https://localhost:10000
[03:01] <Inf3ctedFx> !broadcom
[03:01] <ubotu> Inf3ctedFx: Are you smoking crack?
[03:01] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[03:01] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: what are you after?
[03:01] <Inf3ctedFx> i'm trying to install the drivers for my network card wireless
[03:01] <Inf3ctedFx> i beleive i have the driver
[03:01] <Inf3ctedFx> on .deb a debian package
[03:02] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: so ndiswrapper?
[03:02] <Inf3ctedFx> but I try to run the driver it wont work
[03:02] <sorush20> crimsun: I can't paste cause its my laptop that I'm trying to fix but I can tell you that.. hda is on Linux system
[03:02] <Inf3ctedFx> yes nalioth
[03:02] <Inf3ctedFx> the same one
[03:02] <sorush20> hda2 is extensed
[03:02] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: it should be "dpkg"
[03:02] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: some drivers won't work at all
[03:02] <sorush20>  and hda5 is linux swap
[03:02] <ngmlinux> can anyone help me get wireless networking working on a laptop?
[03:02] <Inf3ctedFx> dpkg??
[03:02] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh my bad  lol
[03:02] <ngmlinux> it's a building in broadcom chip that isn't supported by linux
[03:02] <Lunar_Lamp> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:02] <crimsun> sorush20: what filesystem is /dev/hda1? It shold be detected automatically.
[03:02] <brownie17> is anyone here familiar with webmin?
[03:02] <Lunar_Lamp> wireless networkting on laptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:03] <crimsun> should^
[03:03] <ngmlinux> Lunar_Lamp, this is a non standard issue here
[03:03] <Cody`> crimsun, still doesn't show up in list, I select another driver then click configure and choose configure, select esd, still no work
[03:03] <Lunar_Lamp> oh, sorry
[03:03] <ngmlinux> my wireless has a hardware switch
[03:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok but another question why when I run the command:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb is asking me 4 password?
[03:03] <crimsun> it's not going to show up
[03:03] <janga> brownie17: https://localhost:10000
[03:03] <ngmlinux> you have tol hold fn-F2 in windows
[03:03] <ngmlinux> to activate it
[03:03] <crimsun> Cody`: you needed to type that command I gave you and restart mplayer
[03:03] <sorush20> crimsun: that is the problem with the grub error 17 it can not detect the file system
[03:03] <ngmlinux> so idk what would happen in linux
[03:03] <crimsun> Cody`: alternately, mplayer -ao esd foo
[03:03] <Lunar_Lamp> !tell Inf3ctedFx about sudo
[03:03] <Inf3ctedFx> nalioth: ok but another question why when I run the command:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb is asking me 4 password?
[03:03] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: yes, that is your password, assuming you have sudo access
[03:04] <brownie17> janga: got that much, but i am having trouble wit hteh password prompt. should i bee using the user account "root", and the password i specified in the terminal?
[03:04] <wastrel> anybody know anything aboug ggv ?  i'm trying to get it to talk to my printer.
[03:04] <Inf3ctedFx> mm i think I dont
[03:04] <Cody`> still doesn't work :/
[03:04] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I get sudo access
[03:04] <crimsun> sorush20: you should be able to at least type the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:04] <sorush20> crimsun: I can't see the file system type on out put of the fdisk command that you gave me .
[03:04] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: are you using the account you created during the ubuntu install?
[03:04] <Inf3ctedFx> yes
[03:04] <Inf3ctedFx> the same one bimberi
[03:05] <Cody`> crimson that says the same thing, No available audio device
[03:05] <crimsun> sorush20: you don't need the FS type; it just needs to say Linux is the right-most column
[03:05] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: hm, type "groups" in a terminal and tell me if "admin" is in the list
[03:05] <crimsun> Cody`: pgrep esd
[03:05] <janga> brownie17: somewhere in the webmin directory there is a scrit called password.pl or so.
[03:05] <Inf3ctedFx> nalioth:  do u think that package should work??
[03:05] <Inf3ctedFx> i'm on windows bimberi  I have no access to internet cuz my wireless card wont work
[03:05] <sorush20> crimsun: you want me type everthing.. I can't tell you the star and end blocks.. too.. I think there is an .. it dose say that..
[03:05] <janga> brownie17: sudo ,/password.pl
[03:05] <brownie17> janga: it will be encrypted for sure, yes?
[03:05] <malv> When is the next installment of Ubuntu due?
[03:06] <Cody`> Still does the same :/
[03:06] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: ah, k, well your own password should work if you haven't modified the sudo settings. perhaps a typo
[03:06] <Quinthius> malv: october-ish
[03:06] <janga> brownie17: yes
[03:06] <crimsun> sorush20: so it does say Linux is the FS type? What precisely are you typing as a command to mount /dev/hda1?
[03:06] <Inf3ctedFx> mm
[03:06] <sorush20> crimsun:  yes it says linux on the id 83  . I must tell you that this problem occured as a result of the failing to read the node at scan disk due to 30 or more restarts
[03:06] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I modifed the sudo settings?
[03:06] <brownie17> janga: so what good wil finding it do me?
[03:06] <malv> not too far off then
[03:07] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: ndiswrapper doesnt work in all cases
[03:07] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: or requires tweaking
[03:07] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: using the "visudo" command usually
[03:07] <malv> are the free cds usually distributed around the time of release?
[03:07] <sorush20> crimsun: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/
[03:07] <malv> I wanted to distribute Ubuntu to incoming freshman within our CS department
[03:07] <crimsun> sorush20: as root?
[03:07] <Quinthius> malv: i think they are releasing a preview release soon, or did today...
[03:07] <crimsun> sorush20: or using sudo?
[03:07] <sorush20> crimsun: yes.
[03:07] <bimberi> malv: no, i got my hoary CDs two weeks ago despite being on shipit since warty
[03:07] <crimsun> "yes"?
[03:07] <janga> brownie17: /usr/local/webmin/changepass.pl /path/to/config/dir admin NEWPASSWORD
[03:08] <crimsun> do you mean "as root"?
[03:08] <sorush20> crimsun: I type sudo -i
[03:08] <Quinthius> malv: i have heard shipit can take months....
[03:08] <sorush20> so I am root
[03:08] <Inf3ctedFx> mmm so ok this is my situation nalioth  I download the pkg for ndswrapper and I try to install lets say I installed.. do u think my NIC wireless will work?
[03:08] <malv> yea, I did take a while to get my cds
[03:08] <bimberi> malv: i can confirm that shipit takes months :)
[03:08] <crimsun> sorush20: -i?
[03:08] <malv> unfortunately the install cds were from a bad batch ( I already reported it)
[03:08] <Inf3ctedFx> after I configured of course nalioth
[03:08] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: i dont have any direct experience with ndiswrapper
[03:08] <crimsun> sorush20: did you mistakenly type -i instead of -s?
[03:08] <reiki> so maybe I'll get Breezy CDs by the time mine ship :)
[03:09] <Inf3ctedFx> ok, thx anyway nalioth
[03:09] <brownie17> janga, pm? copied what you just said into terminal, got no such file or directory
[03:09] <malv> Anyways, it's really cool that they offer free cds.
[03:09] <crimsun> sorush20: regardless, -i should work
[03:09] <atila> Hi all; anyone has Descent as D1X compiled ? Thank you .
[03:09] <janga> brownie17: wait...
[03:09] <sorush20> crimsun: so I typed the right thing yes..
[03:09] <brownie17> janga: ok
[03:10] <Inf3ctedFx> let me try
[03:10] <Inf3ctedFx> brb
[03:10] <crimsun> sorush20: presuming you're using the correct device, yes
[03:10] <crimsun> sorush20: is it an IDE HD or SATA or SCSI-II/I?
[03:11] <newbe> hello all
[03:11] <jcd1006> does ubuntu come preinstalled with a ftp program?
[03:12] <Epix> when does breezy come out?
[03:12] <crimsun> a client? Yes. lftp.
[03:12] <Epix> this month, surely
[03:12] <crimsun> Epix: october
[03:12] <bimberi> jcd1006: client - yes, server - no
[03:12] <jcd1006> where is it?
[03:12] <sorush20> crimsun: it is an IDE.. may be the block are work have a look.. hda1, start at 1 and end 4776, then hda2, start at 4777 end 4864, hda5 start 4777 4864, is that right
[03:13] <bimberi> jcd1006: You can use nautilus, Places -> Connect to Server
[03:13] <crimsun> sorush20: you shouldn't be concerned with block #s; the partition heading and its corresponding FS type suffices
[03:13] <ngmlinux> i was following the ndiswrapper instructions exactly from the wiki
[03:13] <atila> Epix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[03:13] <ngmlinux> and got error messages
[03:13] <ngmlinux> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[03:13] <ngmlinux> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
[03:13] <ngmlinux> make[2] : *** [common-epilog]  Error 1
[03:13] <ngmlinux> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2'
[03:13] <ngmlinux> make[1] : *** [binary]  Error 2
[03:13] <ngmlinux> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2'
[03:13] <jcd1006> bimberi: thanks
[03:13] <ngmlinux> make: *** [deb]  Error 2
[03:14] <bimberi> jcd1006: yw :)
[03:14] <tga> hey, does anyone know an email client that can do something similar to gmail's 'conversations'?
[03:14] <Alos> hi guys there was a problem installin 504, and now I get aptitud 0.2.15.0
[03:14] <crimsun> ngmlinux: seems pretty clear, it's not supported package-wise on amd64.
[03:14] <bimberi> ngmlinux: please don't paste here
[03:14] <ngmlinux> why? AMD_64 is supposed to be backward compatible wiht i386
[03:14] <malv> arn't conversations similar to threading?
[03:14] <malv> cause if so, evolution and kmail both do it
[03:14] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you're not running i386, are you? You're running amd64.
[03:14] <JustLink> hey janga
[03:14] <tga> malv, I'd like something that also folds quoted text
[03:14] <newbe> theres an amd64 disk
[03:15] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i know that and i know what the error message means, i don't know how to fix it though
[03:15] <sorush20> crimsun: I must tell you, that the scan disk facility (what was its name again?) the one that starts at about 30 reboots failed and the problems started there.. I forced overwrite and I think I made a big mistake...
[03:15] <tga> malv, and displays the entire thread on a single page
[03:15] <JustLink> tell how to change the pass in webmin
[03:15] <JustLink> i couldnt login with the root user
[03:15] <malv> tga: don't think either do that then
[03:15] <ngmlinux> crimsun and the whole great thing about the amd64 arch is that it's supposed to run i386 code too
[03:15] <tga> malv, I know, that's why I'm asking
[03:15] <mwright1> whats the latest version of breezy badger... is it the one from August
[03:15] <tga> malv, folding the quoted text makes threads significantly more readable
[03:15] <Lunar_Lamp> hmmm - n00b question: when in a terminal, and i type "ping x.x.x.x" - how do i stop it? lol
[03:15] <D1>  eww, the new gnome 2.12 splash screen is UGLY.
[03:15] <wastrel> ctrl-c
[03:16] <malv> very true
[03:16] <Epix> whats new in breezy?
[03:16] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks wastrel
[03:16] <ngmlinux> new bugs Epix
[03:16] <ngmlinux> that's about it
[03:16] <Lunar_Lamp> lol - was starting to bug me!
[03:16] <wastrel> Lunar_Lamp, you can use ping -c  to limit the number of pings also
[03:16] <mwright1> LTSP gnome 2.12 evolution 2.4
[03:16] <mwright1> lots new
[03:16] <ngmlinux> i have breezy
[03:16] <mwright1> openoffice 2.0
[03:16] <crimsun> sorush20: I can't help if you can't describe precisely what you did
[03:16] <D1> it looks like alkazeltzer
[03:16] <jcd1006> one more question, is there a program like putty on here?
[03:16] <mwright1> ssh
[03:16] <atila> Epix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[03:16] <janga> JustLink: cd /usr/share/webmin
[03:16] <mwright1> there is also a putty port to linux
[03:16] <crimsun> ngmlinux: the arches are very different to dpkg
[03:16] <newbe> lol D1
[03:16] <malv> tga: That's probably a Google innovation needs to catch on to the various mail clients out there
[03:17] <janga> JustLink: then:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin root NEWPASSWORD
[03:17] <ngmlinux> okay crimsun, what do I do, there is no AMD_64 for ndiswrapper
[03:17] <ngmlinux> that i see
[03:17] <anaccount> anyone know how i can get pyqt?
[03:17] <Lunar_Lamp> w0000t!
[03:17] <sorush20> crimsun: I keep on getting error 17 on grub and what I precisely did I can't remember exactly but the fsck failed and could not read the nodes..
[03:17] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you may be able to resolve the native amd64 support by using this package: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb
[03:17] <arentie> how do i remove an entire directory via terminal?
[03:17] <sorush20> what is the alternative to scandisc on ubuntu
[03:17] <paulproteus|lapt> arentie: rm -rf /path/to/directory/
[03:18] <tga> malv, I want to switch from gmail back to a local MUA and I don't know which one to use
[03:18] <janga> JustLink: or:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin admin NEWPASSWORD
[03:18] <crimsun> ngmlinux: keep in mind that you'll need the dependencies installed that are listed here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/ndiswrapper-source
[03:18] <newbe> quit
[03:18] <ngmlinux> crimsun can you switch to a pm there is a lot of activity on this room
[03:18] <atila> arentie, with -r parameter I guess
[03:18] <ngmlinux> and i don't want to miss what you say
[03:18] <crimsun> ngmlinux: I prefix each address to you
[03:19] <mwright1> The only thing Breezy is missing is, FreeNX
[03:19] <mwright1> vnc viewer screenscraping and X server for remote terminal sessions sucks
[03:19] <mwright1> whereas FreeNX rules
[03:19] <jcd1006> does anyone know if there is a program like putty on here?
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> freenx does rule, however the implementation is like stabbing yourself in the face
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> jcd1006: er
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> jcd1006: ssh
[03:20] <jcd1006> shh, yes
[03:20] <crimsun> jcd1006: putty can be downloaded, yes, but openssh-client is already installed
[03:20] <jcd1006> *ssh
[03:20] <mwright1> jcd1006: search google and there is a putty port for linux
[03:20] <mwright1> or use ssh
[03:20] <jcd1006> crimsun: which is better
[03:20] <wastrel> jcd1006, the program is called ssh.  open a terminal and type ssh -l <username> <some address>
[03:20] <brownie17> nalioth: why does there seem to be alot of people just coming and going?
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> jcd1006: ssh
[03:20] <mwright1> ssh -l username destination.hostname.or.ip.address.com
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> wastrel: or ssh user@host
[03:20] <crimsun> jcd1006: "better" is subjective, but I prefer openssh-client
[03:20] <mwright1> and if you want to tunnel a port its -Lxxxx:destinationhostname:destinationport
[03:21] <nalioth> brownie17: the default setting in xchat brings you into #ubuntu. perhaps those folks didnt want to be here
[03:21] <ngmlinux> i notice that
[03:21] <brownie17> nalioth: ok
[03:21] <ngmlinux> ok crimson i have the source deb
[03:21] <mwright1> There is a putty for linux though
[03:21] <wastrel> HrdwrBoB, i think better with command line flags for some reason :] 
[03:21] <crimsun> ngmlinux: now install the source deb and its dependencies
[03:21] <nalioth> brownie17: also, you may be seeing bot activity
[03:21] <brownie17> nalioth: hmm....
[03:21] <eva-02> le sigh
[03:21] <walter> new ubuntu install here, How would i go about setting up a sound card
[03:22] <tga> you can just ignore joins and parts
[03:22] <mwright1> is anyone here involved in ubuntu development strategy etc
[03:22] <crimsun> walter: what type of sound card?
[03:22] <eva-02> ubuntu was looking great until i tried to get sound working in quake3
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> walter: it should be setup already
[03:22] <eva-02> this is the bullshit that makes me hate linux :/
[03:22] <ngmlinux> crimson dependencies are auto with apt-get
[03:22] <mwright1> I'd propose including FreeNX which is the greatest compliment to LTSP (which has already been included)
[03:22] <morale> has anyone got the ati drivers working on amd64 yet? well.. the drivers work but the utilities in /usr/X11R6/bin don't work..
[03:22] <crimsun> ngmlinux: if you apt-get install ndiswrapper-source, yes
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> mwright1: yes, people know that
[03:22] <mwright1> FreeNX makes vnc redundant on Linux for remote terminal service sessions
[03:22] <tga> eva-02, getting a soundcard to work without proper drivers would be just as much fun on any other OS
[03:22] <Quinthius> tga: where can you ignore joins/parts? i couldn't find it
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> mwright1: and as I said before, it's implementation is disastrous
[03:22] <eva-02> tga: i have sound in everything else
[03:22] <jcd1006> thank you everyone
[03:23] <bimberi> anaccount: do a search in synaptic for "python-qt", those packages might be what you're after
[03:23] <walter> onboard
[03:23] <VoX> LOL_PAN
[03:23] <tga> Quinthius, in xchat right click the #ubuntu tab, go to #ubuntu -> Show joins/parts
[03:23] <Lo_Pan> LOL
[03:23] <mwright1> HrdwrBoB: maybe if ubuntu has resources they could allocate to the FreeNX guys
[03:23] <crimsun> walter: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[03:23] <brownie17> nalioth: when i'm trying to run a script in terminal, where i have quadruple checked that fle name is right, and even the hlep document, it stll tell me there si no such directory
[03:23] <anaccount> I have python-qt3
[03:23] <magneto> okay via8233 sound problem- i have sound working but i can only mute the sound - otherwise it is totally uncontrollable except with certain apps like xmms or amarok- the owner of /dev/snd /dev/audio /dev/dsp is root - even when i change that the problem remains
[03:23] <HrdwrBoB> mwright1: we're talking ground up rewrite
[03:23] <ngmlinux> crimsun i think it worked
[03:23] <Quinthius> tga: oh, i was looking in options and stuff
[03:23] <walter> ok one sec
[03:23] <ngmlinux> crimsun how can I check i have ndiswrapper properly installed?
[03:24] <mwright1> well at this stage for something that is badly written, it works really really well
[03:24] <crimsun> magneto: you need to create an ~/.asoundrc that defines a softvol pcm plugin because your hardware does not contain a volume control
[03:24] <walter> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[03:24] <JustLink> can someone please tell me how to install pearl
[03:24] <mwright1> certianly on i386 it does anyway
[03:24] <crimsun> JustLink: perl is already installed
[03:24] <JustLink> crimsun, if so the default path is?
[03:24] <nskr37> help mac os ubuntu mouse no funciona
[03:25] <crimsun> /usr/bin/perl
[03:25] <JustLink> ok
[03:25] <JustLink> thanks
[03:25] <cevizoglu> JustLink: type "which perl"
[03:25] <magneto> thanks crimsun - that sounds about right from creative labs issues i had in the past - thanks much
[03:25] <Invader_Zim> Which mplayer is the one I should install k6 586,386 or custom?
[03:25] <brownie17> janga: you there?
[03:26] <ngmlinux> crimsun, how can I check to see if ndiswrapper was properly installed?
[03:26] <crimsun> Invader_Zim: which cpu do you have?
[03:26] <janga> yes
[03:26] <ngmlinux> or fully installed for that matter
[03:26] <crimsun> ngmlinux: did you compile it?
[03:26] <Invader_Zim> AMD opteron
[03:26] <janga> Does anyone know the options to set in xorg.conf to enable 8x agp ??
[03:26] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i don't know
[03:26] <crimsun> Invader_Zim: k6
[03:26] <wastrel> "hella"
[03:26] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i have no idea if apt-get did that or not
[03:26] <crimsun> ngmlinux: then no, it's not installed
[03:26] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you need to actually compile it
[03:27] <DgIy0> hey everyone!
[03:27] <crimsun> ngmlinux: install ndiswrapper-source, build-essential, module-assistant, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:27] <walter> did you see that crimsun
[03:27] <Lo_Pan> if you have an opteron run a k8 one
[03:27] <wastrel> anyone know how to get ggv to talk to my printer?
[03:27] <Invader_Zim> Thanx this appears to work with my setup.
[03:27] <crimsun> walter: yes, but I need more output
[03:27] <ngmlinux> about about make crimsun?
[03:27] <crimsun> ngmlinux: no, not yet
[03:27] <JustLink> crimsun, Full path to perl (default /usr/bin/perl): /user/bin/perl
[03:27] <JustLink> Testing Perl ...
[03:27] <JustLink> ERROR: Failed to find perl at /user/bin/perl
[03:27] <DgIy0> i have a MAC G3 and i just downloaded the image... burned it with my NERO (on my PC)... I AM NOT able at all to boot from CD is there anything i forgot? or anything i did wrong?
[03:27] <crimsun> JustLink: it's /usr not /user
[03:27] <Lo_Pan> /usr/bin/perl
[03:27] <JustLink> aah
[03:28] <walter> l@wox:~$ lspci -v|grep -i audio
[03:28] <walter> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[03:28] <walter> l@wox:~$
[03:28] <Invader_Zim> Now I just need to tell KDE and gnome not to use totem.
[03:28] <walter> thats all
[03:28] <crimsun> walter: no, I need the model number. Paste the lspci -v full output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:28] <ngmlinux> crimsun, ok done, but i get errors
[03:29] <crimsun> ngmlinux: what did you finish?
[03:29] <Invader_Zim> Old world macs need to use bootx.
[03:29] <DgIy0> really?
[03:29] <DgIy0> thanks
[03:29] <janga> brownie17: i somehow cant reicive private messages
[03:29] <ngmlinux> hold on crimsun i have to use pastebin because people don't like me pasting here
[03:29] <brownie17> janga: ok sorry, but do you know how to fix the problem/
[03:29] <Invader_Zim> yah I have an old beige g3 I ran ydl on for a while.
[03:30] <ngmlinux> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/357552
[03:30] <wastrel> ngmlinux, use #flood
[03:30] <walter> ok will do
[03:30] <nalioth> Lo_Pan: that is not nice
[03:30] <janga> brownie17: yes i answered to JustLink above
[03:31] <ngmlinux> i didn't think the commands you sent me were corrent crimsun
[03:31] <Lo_Pan> x-chat is aids for port 6667
 is ubuntu stable on an old beige G3 ????
[03:31] <ngmlinux> *correc
[03:31] <ngmlinux> t
[03:31] <crimsun> ngmlinux: that's because you omitted 'apt-get'
[03:31] <ngmlinux> anybody here able to use wireless on their ubuntu?
[03:31] <khermans> anyone ever notice that if a GTK button becomes ACTIVE and your mouse is over it, that you can't click the button until you move your mouse away and come back?
[03:31] <DgIy0> it still has 256Mb ram and lots of updates...
[03:32] <ngmlinux> okay crimsun
[03:32] <crimsun> ngmlinux: also, don't use commas as separators
[03:32] <walter> done
[03:32] <ngmlinux> crimsun, my bad, i just copied what you gave me
[03:32] <poningru> guys rofl
[03:32] <janga> Does anyone know the options to set in xorg.conf to enable 8x agp ??
[03:32] <poningru> http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=kgvn40shsvu5?tname=smegma&method=6&sbid=lc04a
[03:32] <atila> khermans, I did notice :-)
[03:32] <Invader_Zim> Umm mplayer seems to skip and that should not happen on this box.
[03:32] <poningru> zomg
[03:32] <ngmlinux> crimsun, done
[03:33] <poningru> lmao
[03:33] <khermans> atila, is this bug filed or is it a well known issue?
[03:33] <ngmlinux> crimsun it basically said everything was already up to date
[03:33] <Invader_Zim> The cpu is barely loaded.
[03:33] <atila> khermans, well I have no idea; but i avoid placing the cursor on the button before applications load
[03:33] <mwright1> Whats the latest version of Breezy Badger?
[03:33] <crimsun> ngmlinux: now you have to download that new ndiswrapper-source deb I mentioned
[03:33] <brownie17> janga: why did you say it to him!? i can't see it, must have been too lnog ago
[03:34] <atila> khermans, especially synaptic + search button
[03:34] <crimsun> mwright1: hasn't been released yet
[03:34] <mwright1> I have one from August, I think it is prerelease
[03:34] <mwright1> 2
[03:34] <khermans> atila, wow hope someone else in the GTK team has found this one
[03:34] <mwright1> devel versions
[03:34] <ngmlinux> crimsun, that was the first thing i did
[03:34] <crimsun> the breezy preview is out RSN
[03:34] <janga> brownie17: ok wait
[03:34] <Invader_Zim> I'm going to try the 586 package
[03:34] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i thought that was needed before this step
[03:34] <mwright1> when did that come out?
[03:34] <khermans> atila, hehe i use aptitude from the CLI
[03:34] <tga> anyone else having trouble with the gaim-evolution integration?
[03:34] <mwright1> whats the address to download mirror sites
[03:34] <atila> khermans, :-)
[03:34] <Lo_Pan> .....
[03:34] <janga> brownie17: first: cd /usr/share/webmin
[03:34] <tga> the evo data server seems to hang and eat most of the cpu
[03:34] <cevizoglu> tabs on IM should come with a warning label, I just sent a message to my boss that I thought I was sending to my wife
[03:34] <ngmlinux> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/357556
[03:35] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you should have the version from Debian unstable installed
[03:35] <tga> you shouldn't be im'ing with your boss in the first place
[03:35] <janga> brownie17: then:  sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin root NEWPASSWORD
[03:35] <atila> cevizoglu : oops, gecmis olsun
[03:35] <ngmlinux> crimsun, how can i check?
[03:35] <cevizoglu> tga: he was im'ing me
[03:35] <tga> don't answer, it's a trap
[03:35] <Invader_Zim> All your wifi perfs should be settable via iwconfig.
[03:36] <atila> perhas someone who newly joined has Descent as D1X compiled ? Thank you .
[03:36] <brownie17> janga: thanx
[03:37] <crimsun> walter: you need to compile the 'azx' driver (for Intel High Definition Audio) using the directions I'm sending you.
[03:37] <Lo_Pan> you people should stop scratching your heads and reinstall windows
[03:37] <crimsun> !tell walter about alsa-source
[03:37] <janga> brownie17: ur wellcome
[03:37] <khermans> is there transparency in Gnome for windows?
[03:37] <VoX> haha pan
[03:37] <cevizoglu> atila: benim turkce cok kotu
[03:37] <walter> thanks crimson i will try and get back to you
[03:37] <crimsun> ngmlinux: dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii
[03:38] <khermans> any transparency options in XFCE, enlightenment, or blackbox?
[03:38] <khermans> if Gnome sucks for it
[03:38] <Invader_Zim> It seem the days of those horrible dot11_wep_crap this and that are gone.
[03:38] <Vexir> god..
[03:38] <tga> khermans, xorg supports transparency, no matter what window manager you use
[03:38] <Vexir> i get ignored on IRC so much
[03:38] <Vexir> lol
[03:38] <ngmlinux> crimsun, dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii
[03:38] <ngmlinux> ii  ndiswrapper-source 1.1-4ubuntu1   Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module
[03:38] <atila> cevizoglu : no problem :-) just checked your connection seems you live far far away ... still IM'ing boss is bad luck
[03:38] <Vexir> lets try one more time
[03:38] <Vexir> http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000153057792/
[03:38] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you still have the older version
[03:39] <Vexir> ..
[03:39] <Vexir> no wait
[03:39] <Vexir> there =)
[03:39] <khermans> tga, but doesnt it only put the desktop behind the window?
[03:39] <crimsun> ngmlinux: install the newer deb that you downloaded
[03:39] <khermans> not true trans?
[03:39] <shawnz> hi surfichris.
[03:39] <ngmlinux> crimsun, please walk me through that
[03:39] <shawnz> surfichris you newb :(
[03:39] <walter> i dont type the && part thats just for me to break uo the commands?
[03:39] <surfichris> pff
[03:39] <ngmlinux> crimsun i could have swarn that's what i just did
[03:39] <toran> hey guys, how would I go about writing an AVI or OGM video file to a DVD that my DVD player can play?
[03:39] <tga> khermans, the X server supports it, but it's not all that great (or useful for that matter)
[03:39] <shawnz> get back to coding mybb you lazy little c***
[03:39] <shawnz> @ surfichris
[03:39] <shawnz> :(
[03:39] <tga> khermans, check this out http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency
[03:39] <crimsun> walter: copy and paste exactly what the bot told you
[03:40] <odat> anyone know a way to figure out if open gl is enabled?
[03:40] <tga> khermans, the part about transset
[03:40] <Lo_Pan> odat: yes, look
[03:40] <funkyHat> walter, doing && means if the thing before exits succesful, then do the thing after, so you can do it all on one line
[03:40] <anaccount> crimsun
[03:40] <crimsun> odat: glxinfo|grep -i ^direct
[03:40] <odat> k
[03:40] <Vexir> How do I get my wifi card working with Ubuntu? I havent installed it yet but I want to make sure I can do it
[03:40] <Vexir> helooooo
[03:40] <anaccount> i use the intel i915 grafx
[03:40] <h17m4n> what card?
[03:40] <anaccount> how can I enable opengl
[03:40] <surfichris> Vexir
[03:40] <funkyHat> walter, if you want though, you can split up the commands there
[03:40] <Vexir> i have a dlink DWL-G520
[03:41] <Vexir> surfichris: Ya?
[03:41] <crimsun> anaccount: my 915 works by default
[03:41] <atila> see you people around, bye
[03:41] <odat> crimsun: k i got the following 'direct rendering: No'
[03:41] <Vexir> h17m4n: i have a dlink DWL-G520
[03:41] <khermans> tga, thx dude -- good link ;-)
[03:41] <tga> khermans, np
[03:41] <anaccount> the 915 is shared mem right
[03:41] <anaccount> ?
[03:41] <ngmlinux> crimsun, do you use apt-get or dpkg for installing ndisrapper.deb?
[03:41] <Vexir> surfichris: What?
[03:41] <surfichris> Vexir, should work out of the box
[03:41] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you have to dpkg -i
[03:42] <ngmlinux> okay
[03:42] <walter> thanks funkyHat ill do it the way he said though
[03:42] <Lo_Pan> FUCKING JEWS
[03:42] <Vexir> surfichris: Ok. This is my second tiem with linux, im nooby... im hoping the ubuntu install will be straightforward :)
[03:42] <shawnz> lmao
[03:42] <ngmlinux> crimsun, someone told me to never use dpkg and to only use apt-get
[03:42] <surfichris> best way is to try it
[03:42] <crimsun> ngmlinux: you have to download http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb
[03:42] <funkyHat> walter, yes, less work for you that way :)
[03:42] <surfichris> Ubuntu is very straight forward ;)
[03:42] <anaccount> Lo_Pan    whoa....
[03:42] <Lo_Pan>      _ _______        ______
[03:42] <Lo_Pan>     | | ____\ \      / / ___|
[03:42] <Lo_Pan>  _  | |  _|  \ \ /\ / /\___ \
[03:42] <Lo_Pan> | |_| | |___  \ V  V /  ___) |
[03:42] <Lo_Pan>  \___/|_____|  \_/\_/  |____/
[03:42] <jcd1006> in gaim, is there a way to make it notify you, like making the boc highlight or anything so that you know when someone says something besides just sound?
[03:42] <Vexir> great
[03:42] <ngmlinux> crimsun, already done
[03:42] <shawnz> Vexir: same, its really straightforward and its quite easy to use.
[03:42] <khermans> CAPS
[03:42] <Lo_Pan> uh oh
[03:43] <Invader_Zim> Ok it works now even wmvs.
[03:43] <Lo_Pan>      _ _______        ______
[03:43] <Lo_Pan>     | | ____\ \      / / ___|
[03:43] <Lo_Pan>  _  | |  _|  \ \ /\ / /\___ \
[03:43] <h17m4n> +b
[03:43] <Lo_Pan> | |_| | |___  \ V  V /  ___) |
[03:43] <Lo_Pan>  \___/|_____|  \_/\_/  |____/
[03:43] <odat> anyone know how i enable open gl?
[03:43] <walter> this xchat in nice enoguh i could get used to this
[03:43] <shawnz> irssi is better than xchat tbh.
[03:43] <shawnz> but no gui.
[03:44] <kevogod> shawnz, That is a rather blanked statement
[03:44] <kevogod> *blanketed
[03:44] <homss> pa ged ste momci imali koja ribica
[03:44] <crimsun> ngmlinux: did you dpkg -i ndiswrapper-source_1.2+1.3rc1-1_all.deb?
[03:45] <shawnz> aww.
[03:45] <homss> mac
[03:45] <walter> build alsa with debuggin code? default is no
[03:45] <anaccount> homss... hrvat
[03:45] <anaccount> ?
[03:45] <crimsun> walter: yes, you should
[03:45] <nalioth> shawnz: in #ubuntu-offtopic with your comparisons, please
[03:45] <ngmlinux> crimsun, is this what I want? dpkg -l ndiswrapper-source|grep ^ii
[03:45] <ngmlinux> ii  ndiswrapper-source 1.2+1.3rc1-1   Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module
[03:45] <shawnz> no gnome in that link for alpha and X
[03:45] <crimsun> ngmlinux: yes, it is
[03:45] <homss> no srbin
[03:45] <anaccount> lol
[03:46] <ngmlinux> crimsun, good okay, step 1 complete
[03:46] <homss> srbija do tokija
[03:46] <mwright1> is qt GPL or LGPL?
[03:46] <ngmlinux> crimsun, what would i do next
[03:46] <ngmlinux> the wiki says to load the inf
[03:46] <crimsun> ngmlinux: follow the directions in /usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper-source/README.Debian
[03:46] <odat> crimsun: any idea how i enable open gl?
[03:46] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i guess i need a windows machine to make the inf right?
[03:47] <Quinthius> odat: what vid card?
[03:47] <h17m4n> where are themes installed?
[03:47] <crimsun> odat: make sure the proper drm kernel module is loaded and that xorg.conf is configured correctly
[03:47] <h17m4n> I just downloaded kwin-baghira for kde and I can't find where it was installed
[03:47] <homss> pogledajte sta je fudbal
[03:47] <odat> crimson: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[03:47] <homss> 1 na listi
[03:48] <anaccount> im not serb
[03:48] <homss> 1 u svetu
[03:48] <homss> sta not
[03:48] <mik3> is there a special flag for when tarring up a directory so winzip/winrar can decompress the file on windows?
[03:48] <ngmlinux> crimsun, that README doesn't apply
[03:48] <nalioth> mik3: not to my knowledge
[03:48] <crimsun> ngmlinux: what doesn't apply in it?
[03:48] <mik3> or what would be an ideal syntax
[03:48] <walter> is enemy territory available for linux
[03:48] <tga> h17m4n, did you try the control centre -> themes or styles?
[03:48] <ngmlinux> there's 4 pharagraphs on packaging, crimsun
[03:48] <crimsun> walter: yes
[03:48] <tga> walter, yes
[03:48] <anaccount> crimsun
[03:48] <walter> cool
[03:48] <ngmlinux> crimsun, it does not explain how to install
[03:48] <crimsun> ngmlinux: yes, and you have to compile a package
[03:49] <anaccount> opengl runs on your card by default
[03:49] <anaccount> ?
[03:49] <ngmlinux> crimsun, what the (#*)(*$# did i just do though?
[03:49] <crimsun> ngmlinux: only after you compile an ndiswrapper package can you install the created deb
[03:49] <mik3> what's the correct syntax to "zip" a directory?
[03:49] <ngmlinux> crimsun????
[03:49] <homss> menjate temu
[03:49] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i thought we just verified that the new version was installed??????
[03:49] <crimsun> ngmlinux: then after you install the created deb, you can actually run ndiswrapper with your nic's inf
[03:49] <crimsun> ngmlinux: that's the SOURCE
[03:49] <nalioth> mik3: "tar cvf <tarname.tar> directory_name
[03:49] <walter> okay crimson thats finnished
[03:49] <ngmlinux> crimsun, why would I install source????
[03:50] <anaccount> jebem sve srbin
[03:50] <tga> nalioth, that's not zip, eh
[03:50] <crimsun> ngmlinux: because the older versions simply don't support amd64
[03:50] <nalioth> mik3: in a terminal, "man tar" will show you all kinds of neat tricks
[03:50] <h17m4n> tga: it's not there
[03:50] <anaccount> jebem sve ustase
[03:50] <homss> pupis ti srbinu
[03:50] <crimsun> ngmlinux: hence you have to make a newer package using a newer version
[03:50] <anaccount> jebem sve bosanski
[03:50] <tga> h17m4n, try #kubuntu
[03:50] <h17m4n> I did a sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[03:50] <nalioth> tga: mik3 asked for "zip" not zip
[03:50] <odat> anaccount: i checked opengl and it said direct rendering: NO
[03:50] <ngmlinux> okay okay, looks like this will take a few hours, crimsun, i'm patient
[03:50] <homss> sisite mi kurcinu
[03:50] <tga> nalioth, I see :)
[03:50] <anaccount> homss hahaha
[03:50] <crimsun> ngmlinux: on a decently fast machine, it should only take a couple minutes
[03:51] <ngmlinux> crimsun, i've read the documentation, now what?
[03:51] <ngmlinux> make make install deb?
[03:51] <homss> ekstazi ,trens
[03:51] <crimsun> ngmlinux: now follow the directions to decompress the source and compile the deb
[03:51] <nalioth> tga: i believe that "zip" is becoming the de facto "compressed file format to ask for" because windows users dont know too many others
[03:51] <anaccount> Yebem te u mozak
[03:51] <homss> srbin do jaja
[03:51] <ngmlinux> um crimsun, do i want to make a kpkg?  no rihgt?
[03:51] <ngmlinux> i want to compile and install
[03:51] <tga> mik3, `zip -r dir.zip dir` works if you specifically want a .zip
[03:51] <anaccount> Pederchino
[03:51] <crimsun> ngmlinux: not, you don't need to use make-kpkg
[03:52] <ngmlinux> crimsun these are instructions for something else
[03:52] <crimsun> walter: sudo modprobe snd-azx
[03:52] <homss> jebi mater pedersku
[03:52] <eva-02> how can i remove a "link" from the games menu?
[03:52] <eva-02> are those files in a folder somewhere?
[03:52] <tga> nalioth, it's also that win xp and the likes can do zip out of the box.. for gz, bz2, rar, etc you have to install extra stuff
[03:52] <anaccount> Jebi se svinjo
[03:52] <ngmlinux> crimsun, do i want module assistant?
[03:52] <crimsun> ngmlinux: yes
[03:52] <odat> uhm is there anyway that i can enable opengl?
[03:52] <anaccount> Yebem lee tee miloo maykoo
[03:52] <crimsun> (you were supposed to install that before)
[03:52] <walter> done
[03:52] <anaccount> Ne postoyi veche sranye nego ti
[03:53] <crimsun> walter: no errors, correct?
[03:53] <nalioth> tga: also mik3 asked 'tar' questions leading up to his 'zip' question
[03:53] <ngmlinux> crimsun: ok i'll module-assistant install the ndiswrapper then i do make?
[03:53] <tga> nalioth, ok, I didn't catch that
[03:53] <crimsun> ngmlinux: just follow the directions
[03:53] <walter> during the long text i couldnt see any
[03:53] <homss> izracunaj koliko ti kite treba
[03:53] <walter> it went the whole way throguh anyway
[03:53] <crimsun> walter: no, the modprobe
[03:53] <ngmlinux> crimsun, WHAT DIRECTIONS????
[03:53] <walter> no output at all
[03:53] <walter> assume good
[03:53] <anaccount> Marsh u lepo peechka materina ti yebeni prokliti derkagia
[03:53] <crimsun> walter: good. Now, cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:53] <crimsun> ngmlinux: hold a sec
[03:53] <ngmlinux> it says if you want to kpkg and stuff, i don't know what directions to follow and the
[03:54] <ngmlinux> ok
[03:54] <ngmlinux> crimsun, idk why i'd want to install and then build? these instructions leave things out
[03:54] <walter> l@wox:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$ cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards ---
[03:54] <walter> l@wox:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$
[03:54] <homss> hey you motherfucker you wanna mess with serbs
[03:54] <homss> are you sure?
[03:55] <anaccount> hahah
[03:55] <nalioth> no politics in here please
[03:55] <anaccount> hes nuts
[03:55] <odat> anyone have any ideas about opengl?
[03:55] <sn0n> no politics?
[03:55] <sn0n> FUCK BUSH!!!
[03:55] <anaccount> i dont know of what politics he speaks of
[03:55] <mwright1> hmm don't need a balkan war here
[03:55] <nalioth> anaccount: there are language channels for folks
[03:55] <morale> what are you trying to do with opengl ?
[03:55] <sn0n> sry..
[03:55] <sn0n> hes my president
[03:55] <ngmlinux> clinton is the real president
[03:55] <nalioth> no politics
[03:55] <walter> damm right
[03:56] <morale> odat, what type of video card, is it xf86 or x.org, whats your problem that you are having?
[03:56] <crimsun> walter: lsmod|grep ^snd_azx
[03:56] <anaccount> Da bi te majka prepoznala u bureku
[03:56] <mwright1> nalioth: ubuntu itself is about politics
[03:56] <anaccount> nalioth im a person who has seen all things
[03:56] <odat> morale: its xorg and its a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[03:56] <ngmlinux> crimsun, you still trying to figure this out?
[03:56] <anaccount> and speaks all languages
[03:56] <anaccount> lol
[03:56] <odat> morale: this commands returns glxinfo|grep -i ^direct
[03:57] <mwright1> It's built on licenses, which fit without in a governments grant of limited rights over artistic works etc etc
[03:57] <odat> moral: direct rendering: No
[03:57] <nalioth> politics with bad language is definitely not acceptable in here
[03:57] <morale> odat, do you have dri enabled in your xorg.conf?
[03:57] <mwright1> yer bad language is not required
[03:57] <crimsun> ngmlinux: the only thing you have to do is ''module-assistant auto-install ndiswrapper''
[03:57] <walter> snd_azx                15328  0
[03:57] <odat> morale: not sure
[03:57] <morale> odat, do a grep on /etc/X11/xorg.conf for "dri"
[03:57] <anaccount> mwright1... whose.... mine?
[03:57] <wastrel> anyone know how i can print pdf's double-sided
[03:58] <ngmlinux> crimsun, ok
[03:58] <walter> you mean the da* word
[03:58] <odat> morale: what would that command be?
[03:58] <walter> sorry
[03:58] <crimsun> ngmlinux: / walter: I'm being called away at work and will return in an hour
[03:58] <morale> grep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf - you should see a line that says Load "dri"
[03:58] <mwright1> anaccount: that was supposed to read yes, bad language is not required
[03:58] <ngmlinux> crimsun, "Build of the package ndiswrapper-source failed! How do you wish to proceed?"
[03:58] <walter> i will wait
[03:58] <mwright1> yer wasn't slang for your in this instance
[03:58] <anaccount> im not cursing
[03:58] <ngmlinux> ok thanks crimsun, i give up
[03:58] <ngmlinux> linux was never designed to support wireless right?
[03:58] <odat> morale: k it says load dri
[03:59] <morale> odat, what do your log files say in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when attempting to load the dri module?
[03:59] <ngmlinux> why have plug and play wireless in windows when you can spend 2 weeks trying to get it to work in ubuntu only to find it's impossible?
[03:59] <peirthies> I am having an intresting problem with my burner, under here, it only seems to want to burn at 1x under growisofs regardless of what I have the -speed= set at.. any ideas?
[03:59] <ngmlinux> i love linux i'm working on a distro that takes an experienced user 4000 commands to send an e-mail
[04:00] <windex> ngmlinux, windows was never designed to support wireless either. the Wireless Zero Conf service is a sidestep to that, which attempts to brokenly treat all wifi adapters the same.
[04:00] <ngmlinux> windex, wireless just works in windows though
[04:00] <ngmlinux> i have to modify and compile an application for it in linux
[04:00] <ngmlinux> and it crashes in ubuntu
[04:00] <sly> why not go back to windows then......................if its what your hardware works on, stick with it
[04:01] <windex> ngmlinux, not really. the only advantage to wifi on windows is that a) it has commercial drivers and support and b) the application to manage profiles is a little better imho.
[04:01] <ngmlinux> sly you're like the 100th linux person to tell me to use windows
[04:01] <ngmlinux> lol
[04:01] <ngmlinux> windows isn't that good
[04:01] <ngmlinux> but much better than this
[04:01] <morale> windows works fine.
[04:01] <wastrel> there's an application to manage wifi profiles in linux?
[04:01] <ngmlinux> but wifi doens' twork in linux does it?
[04:01] <ngmlinux> it's still in development
[04:01] <windex> wastrel, "no".
[04:01] <windex> sure it does
[04:01] <odat> morale: LoadModule: "dri"
[04:01] <odat> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
[04:01] <odat> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[04:01] <odat> 	compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
[04:01] <odat> 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
[04:01] <windex> if you have the right hardware.
[04:01] <morale> wifi works fine in linux if you buy something supported.
[04:02] <windex> odat, don't paste, someone else will violate your sanity now.
[04:02] <wastrel> my laptop runs linux and works fine w/ wifi
[04:02] <odat> sorry windex
[04:02] <ngmlinux> that's great wastrel
[04:02] <wastrel> but theres' no decent UI for managing wifi afaik
[04:02] <morale> odat, do you have the "glx" module loaded also?
[04:02] <sly> i know of 2 wifi laptops that work fine.............. my personaly dont
[04:02] <ngmlinux> wonder why people pay a lot of $$ to use windows when linux is free
[04:02] <ngmlinux> because it just works
[04:02] <ngmlinux> well most of the time
[04:02] <sorush20> guys I'm using streamripper and I'm unable to change the user agent can someone help please..
[04:02] <windex> wastrel, just like ifconfig, though, iwconfig is a cakewalk if you've used it a bit
[04:03] <ngmlinux> ture
[04:03] <ngmlinux> true
[04:03] <bimberi> wifi works fine if you're lucky enough to have hardware made by a company that is linux friendly
[04:03] <ngmlinux> snon you make a good point
[04:03] <wastrel> windex, i'm talking pointy clicky of course
[04:03] <odat> morale: how do i check  I looked in synaptic and i didn't see any glx loaded
[04:03] <windex> wastrel, i know. but pointy clicky is not and never will be the strong point of a linux distribution.
[04:04] <wastrel> windex, which explains why i can't print my pdf's double-sided :[
[04:05] <windex> walter, at least you can print single sided. my printer and cups don't get alone.
[04:05] <windex> err, along.
[04:05] <wastrel> yeah but i want to save paper :] 
[04:05] <wastrel> and i bought a new printer because my old one didn't work :] 
[04:05] <odat> k morale i think i found it in the log
[04:06] <walter> wrong man i think
[04:06] <peirthies> having a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?
[04:06] <Invader_Zim> Anyway I can get rid of totem?
[04:06] <sn0n> thnx man..
[04:06] <sn0n> sry bout that :-X
[04:07] <mik3> Seveas you here
[04:07] <sn0n> Invader_Zim, not really.. why you want to/>
[04:07] <_lui_> hello hello
[04:07] <windex> wastrel, for reasons unknown, lpd will print to my printer, but cups, hell, half the time my printer hard locks.
[04:07] <Invader_Zim> It just gives me a reasouce busy error while all other players work.
[04:07] <sn0n> you could remove it from the panel
[04:08] <Invader_Zim> besides when it was in another distro it was crap anyway so I will not miss it.
[04:08] <thoreauputic> can someone type my nick please?
[04:08] <sn0n> locate totem , pipe it, and rm all totem lines
[04:08] <Invader_Zim> It simply did not work here.
[04:08] <sn0n> :: chuckles ::
[04:08] <sn0n> thoreauputic,
[04:08] <thoreauputic> thanks
[04:09] <sn0n> Invader_Zim, you can try Totem-xine
[04:09] <odat> well does anyone have any idea about the opengl thing?
[04:09] <nalioth> thoreauputic: you got bells on now?
[04:09] <bimberi> smeghead :)
[04:09] <dabaR> @nalioth?
[04:09] <dabaR> heh
[04:09] <evader> howdy
[04:09] <thoreauputic> nalioth: no, I'm trying to set the bell :)
[04:09] <_lui_> here is my today problem: I have 2 sound cards, one comes with the board and the other is a SB Live... the thing is, I like ubuntu to start with the SB and to control it with the GUI, what I need to do?
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic:
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> _lui_: disable the onboard card in the bios
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> that is the easiest thing to do
[04:10] <nalioth> dabaR: hmm?
[04:10] <_lui_> hmmm+
[04:10] <dabaR> exactly.
[04:10] <_lui_> ok
[04:10] <_lui_> thx
[04:10] <dabaR> anyhow, got an assignment due.
[04:10] <evader> How do you stop/start a service for runlevel 2
[04:10] <_lui_> I'll be back
[04:11] <evader> just change it from a S to a K prefix in /etc/rc2?
[04:11] <evader> or chmod -x it in there?
[04:11] <evader> or remove that link all together?
[04:11] <peirthies> I am having a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?
[04:11] <Invader_Zim> Why isn't xine the default player?
[04:11] <sn0n> because gstreamer is good for gnome
[04:12] <odat> everyone is assuming that gstreamer will surpass xine
[04:12] <sn0n> and xine is just x based
[04:12] <sn0n> i like my reason better  ;-)
[04:12] <odat> lol
[04:12] <sn0n> hehe
[04:12] <Agrajag> gstreamer isn't very good for much of anything
[04:12] <Agrajag> yet
[04:12] <Invader_Zim> I doubt it no codecs ever worked in totem for me
[04:12] <evader> gxine rocks
[04:12] <sn0n> its good for porn
[04:12] <Invader_Zim> gxine does rock.
[04:12] <Agrajag> Invader_Zim: install totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[04:12] <sinned> Can anyone here help me with something?
[04:12] <sn0n> i mean.. uhmm.. listening to legal ogg files
[04:12] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:12] <sinned> I'm trying to download a rpm and firefox is being gay
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, right click save as ?
[04:13] <D1> you use gstreamer for pr0n?
[04:13] <sinned> Tried
[04:13] <odat> yea
[04:13] <D1> really? I thought xine was good for that.
[04:13] <sn0n> D1, of course..
[04:13] <Invader_Zim> Also mplayer is great too for that type of stuff.
[04:13] <sn0n> lol
[04:13] <kevogod> RPMs are Real files. RedHat hijacked the extension.
[04:13] <sn0n> hehehe
[04:13] <sinned> "XML Parsing Error: Syntax error"
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, wget it
[04:13] <odat> you need to install a critical plugin for gstreamer if you want all the codecs working
[04:13] <sinned> :?
[04:13] <sly> sinned........ why would you need a rpm for ubuntu ?
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, man wget
[04:13] <sly> =\
[04:13] <sinned> I'm downloading synergy
[04:14] <kevogod> GStreamer sucks for porn. Xine is the only way!
[04:14] <sinned> And it only comes with .rpm for linux
[04:14] <sn0n> lol..
[04:14] <omp342> gnome 2.12 is released :)
[04:14] <omp342> will it be included with breezy?
[04:14] <sn0n> omp342, not yet
[04:14] <bimberi> !info synergy
[04:14] <omp342> sn0n: www.gnome.org
[04:14] <ubotu> synergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB
[04:14] <Invader_Zim> nice no sound
[04:14] <odat> not if you install gstreamer.pitfdll
[04:14] <sn0n> oo shit.. i didnt even notice the date
[04:14] <sn0n> hahaha
[04:14] <sn0n> i thought it was the 6th still
[04:15] <sly> its the 8th here
[04:15] <bimberi> sinned: synergy is available in the universe repository
[04:15] <sinned> Oh
[04:15] <sinned> Oka
[04:15] <sinned> y
[04:15] <lewwy> hey guys
[04:15] <lewwy> Can somebody help me with a wine problem in here?
[04:15] <odat> bimberi: what is synergy?
[04:15] <walter> how do you keep the ubuntu system up to date installing all the security fixes but not normal programs
[04:15] <sinned> !info synergy
[04:15] <ubotu> synergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB
[04:15] <sinned> There
[04:15] <odat> ahhh ok
[04:15] <kevogod> odat, Meh
[04:15] <omp342> for some reason when i turn off my computer
[04:16] <sn0n> walter, turn off some repos
[04:16] <omp342> my sound settings dont get saveed
[04:16] <omp342> saved*
[04:16] <Invader_Zim> Ok it does not tank now but it has no sound at all and yes my card is working.
[04:16] <odat> kevogod:  ??
[04:16] <lewwy> I run SteamInstall.exe (under wine, non-cvs) and I get "Could not initiliaze installation.  X:\GLC14b.tmp File not found
[04:16] <sn0n> walter, there is security- repos.
[04:16] <sn0n> just turn off the others
[04:17] <PounK> hello
[04:17] <sinned> bimberi, how do you run syenergy
[04:17] <sinned> Err
[04:17] <sinned> However you spell it :/
[04:17] <odat> anyone know what this means
[04:17] <odat> glxinfo|grep -i ^direct
[04:17] <odat> direct rendering: No
[04:17] <wastrel> it means your hardware acceleration isn't working
[04:18] <sly> means you got shitty s3 graphics like my laptop
[04:18] <PounK> do breezy while have a graphic installation? 	
[04:18] <PounK> GraphicalInstaller is wip in Low Priority but ubuntuexpress is  Deferred
[04:18] <walter> sn0n, so I would just leave that one uncommented and then to a general update?
[04:18] <odat> lol anyway to fix it?
[04:18] <Madpilot> odat: what graphic card do you have?
[04:18] <sn0n> yea
[04:18] <walter> how often do you do it?
[04:18] <lewwy> Ok, I take it nobody can help me with my steam problem.  How about when I'm in Counter Strike 1.6 I lag like nothing on earth as my ping blows out to about 700.  While I'm in the game it seems to send and recieve packets once every second. Any suggestions about that?
[04:18] <bimberi> sinned: i don't
[04:18] <sn0n> i run updates daily
[04:18] <sinned> :/
[04:18] <odat> madpilot: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[04:18] <sinned> Synaptic didn't install it to the gnome menu :/
[04:19] <sn0n> just so i dont end up having to wait 10 minutes for 100+ mb's every now and then
[04:19] <[Spooky] > im about to set up a ftp-serv for a friend as a backup unit for him... what are my responsibilties ?
[04:19] <sn0n> [Spooky] , vsftpd is nice
[04:19] <Madpilot> walter: the update thing - little red thing in the notification panel - will come up when you need to update...
[04:19] <sinned> Anyone here run Synergy
[04:19] <Madpilot> odat: never heard of S3...sorry
[04:19] <magneto> problem- via 8235 - I can control sound inside of applications but cant adjust sound through the gnome-volume-control except to mute via pcm - i have asounrc setup etc - this hasnt worked since install the other day- any ideas?
[04:19] <tga> sinned, iirc you have to run the synergy tools from a terminal.. there is no gui to them
[04:20] <sinned> Hmm
[04:20] <sinned> How do I do that?
[04:20] <sinned> like what command?
[04:20] <odat> sly: you know of a way i can fix it?
[04:20] <magneto> possible gnome permission settings???
[04:20] <sly> S3 have porr drivers................. i gave up hope with s3 on my laptop
[04:20] <tga> sinned, like synergyc and synergys
[04:20] <lewwy> type synergy and bash tab
[04:20] <Madpilot> sinned: try "synergy" at a command prompt?
[04:20] <sinned> did
[04:20] <sinned> Did nothing
[04:20] <lewwy> hmmm
[04:21] <sorush20> how do I get gnome to work again it keeps on crashing before I'm able to login fully
[04:21] <lewwy> you should have synergyc and synergys
[04:21] <tga> sinned: there is a server and a client
[04:21] <sinned> Yeah
[04:21] <sinned> I have the server running
[04:21] <tga> sinned, man synergyc then
[04:22] <sinned> k
[04:22] <sn0n> is gnome 2.12 in universe ?  or is there a decent 2.12 repo for hoary ?
[04:22] <odat> well is there a command i can use to enable the drivers?
[04:23] <matthew_w> What's a decent DVD+/-R Writer with an X11 frontend?
[04:23] <sorush20> If i'm sharing my music files on gnutella can someone find my IP and locate me .. and sue me..
[04:23] <lewwy> matthew_w, probably k3b if you have kde installed
[04:23] <tga> matthew_w, k3b (for kde)
[04:23] <walter> thats all well and good Madpilot but i have 72 packages available
[04:23] <nalioth> sorush20: yes
[04:23] <walter> :)
[04:23] <lewwy> tga, great minds think alike, fools minds seldom differ
[04:23] <matthew_w> Unfortunately I'm running Gnome, and I don't know if I want to use like 400 extra MB's for a program x-x
[04:23] <sorush20> matthew_w: did you tey k3b... install it from synaptic..
[04:23] <tga> I'd still like to have a gtk k3b
[04:23] <sn0n> anyone use liferea (and has it running right now, for more then a couple hrs)
[04:24] <Madpilot> walter: then it's been a while since you updated, I'm guessing?
[04:24] <parktownprawn> gnomebaker is ok cd/dvd software
[04:24] <walter> this is my first day
[04:24] <matthew_w> gnomebaker?
[04:24] <matthew_w> Avail thru synaptic?
[04:24] <sn0n> matthew_w, its the gnome k3b
[04:24] <sorush20> nalioth is there a way I can fake my IP address.. I am on a home network..
[04:24] <walter> but i did open extra reps
[04:24] <tga> what image catalog apps do you guys use?
[04:24] <nalioth> sorush20: that is not a topic for this channel
[04:24] <sn0n> matthew_w, to burn audio and data CD / DVD's
[04:24] <tga> sorush20, no
[04:24] <sn0n> tga, gthumb
[04:25] <sn0n> sorush20, use a proxy
[04:25] <parktownprawn> i think gnomebaker is in universe
[04:25] <matthew_w> sn0n; ... what if I want to burn say... a video DVD... like.. A movie that I *wink wink* DIDN'T *wink* download off of the internet.
[04:25] <sn0n> hehe
[04:25] <Madpilot> tga: gThumb is great - it even talks to digital cameras
[04:25] <lewwy> *Sigh*
[04:25] <janga> matthew_w: try graveman, its better than gnomebaker
[04:25] <sn0n> i believe it does video dvds also.. aint sure.. google around a bit
[04:25] <sorush20> sn0n: really how will that help?
[04:26] <sn0n> "dvd authoring linux"
[04:26] <tga> I'm looking at gThumb vs F-spot atm
[04:26] <matthew_w> I have graveman... I just don't know if it will burn video to the DVD's janga
[04:26] <sn0n> F-Spot is mono isnt it ?
[04:26] <tga> a merge would be nice.. something like picasa
[04:26] <tga> sn0n, indeed it is
[04:26] <sn0n> mmm.. i LOVE picasa
[04:26] <sn0n> and hello also
[04:26] <sn0n> hello KICKS ASS
[04:26] <Xenguy> Now that we need to 'identify' our nick before being allowed to /join ubuntu, does anyone know a way that I can automate the identify with irssi, instead of having to do it manually each time?
[04:26] <sinned> tga can you help me get synergy running?
[04:26] <tga> hello is the easiest way to share pics with clueless people
[04:26] <sn0n> Xenguy, man irssi
[04:26] <DgIy0> is there any way someone can walk me through the installation of my UBUNTU for power PC on my old G3??? I never touched a mac in my entire life and someone just gave me this G3 with 256Mb of ram and a 20Gb HD... the deal is i hate the operating system and i'd love to have ubuntu running on it... but i have no clue how to make this bootX work...
[04:26] <nalioth> Xenguy: there is a explanation for irssi on it's home page
[04:26] <sn0n> if your using irssi , you should know how to use man.. lol
[04:27] <tga> sinned, I can try.. what are you trying to do?
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: you are kidding right?
[04:27] <sinned> I have the server running and on the client pc...I'm running synergyc 192.168.1.102 and its not working
[04:27] <Xenguy> nalioth: OK, will RTFM
[04:27] <lewwy> does anyone here know much about wine and steam?
[04:27] <sn0n> Xenguy, why you even using irssi if you dont know its config files? .. so no.. im not kidding
[04:27] <mwright1> matthew_w?
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: go away
[04:27] <janga> matthew_w: there is a nero for linux available. dl the demo
[04:27] <tga> sinned, what OS is the server running on?
[04:27] <sn0n> Xenguy, your the one that asked the question. ;-)
[04:27] <mwright1> same firstname and initials as me hehe
[04:27] <sinned> Ubuntu
[04:27] <matthew_w> janga; will graveman burn DVD video?
[04:27] <matthew_w> mwright1; yes?
[04:27] <tga> sinned, did you configure the server before running it?
[04:27] <nalioth> DgIy0: there is a nice walkthrough here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: yeah, looking for a quick tip is all :P
[04:27] <sinned> no :/
[04:28] <sinned> Didn't know you had to :/
[04:28] <sn0n> nothings faster then man
[04:28] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:28] <tga> sinned, there you have it
[04:28] <DgIy0> THANKS nalioth
[04:28] <janga> matthew_w: i didnt try, but i dont think so
[04:28] <sn0n> hehe
[04:28] <kevogod> sn0n, woman <topic>
[04:28] <matthew_w> janga; would the nero CD I have that came with my writer have the linux version?
[04:28] <sly> doubtful
[04:29] <sn0n> wow.. irssi has a crappy man file
[04:29] <sn0n> lol
[04:29] <sly> i just keep poping up
[04:29] <tga> sinned, man synergys.. you have to create a synergys.conf
[04:29] <sinned> hmm
[04:29] <sinned> okay
[04:29] <tga> sinned, in it you set up the screens and the hosts
[04:29] <odat> hmm not sure how to track down this problem my screen redraws are painfully slow
[04:29] <odat> damn it
[04:29] <odat> ergghhh
[04:29] <nalioth> Xenguy: it's gonna take a config editing session
[04:29] <tga> sinned, then from what I remember the other host must be added to /etc/host and refered by name
[04:29] <sn0n> odat,  use the correct drivers  for your hardware ?
[04:29] <janga> matthew_w: i think you are allowed to use the windows serial with nero linux.
[04:29] <sinned> hmm
[04:29] <sinned> okay
[04:29] <sinned> Thanks
[04:29] <sn0n> ahh.. i gotta get goin.. bbl all
[04:29] <sly> ooooooo the joys of s3 drivers odat
[04:30] <tga> iirc they don't even sell the linux nero, you must have a windows serial
[04:30] <matthew_w> janga; woot
[04:30] <mwright1> is there a nero for linux?
[04:30] <Agrajag> yes
[04:30] <Xenguy> nalioth: how do you mean?
[04:30] <odat> sly: well it says i have the a bunch of s3 drivers installed but if they aren't doing anything whats the poing
[04:30] <odat> point
[04:31] <geneo93> i need some help with tape drive
[04:31] <mwright1> anyone with a tape drive needs help
[04:31] <sly> sounds identical to my old thinkpad lappy :)
[04:31] <sly> i gaveup
[04:31] <janga> mwright1: yes but its gtk1 :(
[04:31] <nalioth> Xenguy: irssi requires a knowledge of many variables that it uses for optimal effect
[04:31] <nalioth> Xenguy: the irssi homepage has a few tricks and stuff
[04:31] <matthew_w> Alright - getting that now.
[04:32] <matthew_w> Nero linux that is.
[04:32] <mwright1> nero is gtk+
[04:32] <mwright1> whats wrong with that
[04:32] <matthew_w> On another note - what's a decent game for linux.  I don't want to go through the brain searing trouble of installing cedega just yet...
[04:32] <wastrel> i am fond of nethack
[04:32] <tga> matthew_w, enemy territory
[04:32] <Xenguy> nalioth: I'm up to the challenge, if no one is prepared to serve it on a silver platter ;-)
[04:32] <tga> go nethack!
[04:32] <chavo> enemy territory
[04:32] <wastrel> moon-buggy is amusing
[04:32] <matthew_w> lol
[04:32] <sly> frozen-bubble !!!
[04:32] <matthew_w> moon-buggy
[04:32] <matthew_w> How does nethack work?
[04:33] <chavo> frozen-bubble rocks!
[04:33] <nalioth> Xenguy: nothing the rest of us havent done (no irssi comes the way we use it)
[04:33] <geneo93> freecraft
[04:33] <tga> you push keys and it does stuff
[04:33] <wastrel> matthew_w, ever played rogue?
[04:33] <matthew_w> ... can't say I have.
[04:33] <tga> omg moon-buggy is so cool
[04:33] <Xenguy> nalioth: aye, been there indeed
[04:34] <matthew_w> It's funny - the web pages <title> is Download Nero Linux Trial Version, and in the middle of the page in big red letters it says
[04:34] <matthew_w> Important notice:
[04:34] <matthew_w> This is NOT a trial version!
[04:34] <sly> i might have to try moon buggy now
[04:34] <sly> whats name of that ball game
[04:34] <wastrel> telnet to nethack.alt.org if you want to check out nethack
[04:34] <kevogod> sly, neverball
[04:34] <sly> yeh thats the one
[04:34] <walter> is there any websties with a list of games that are ported to linux
[04:34] <sly> its 3:35am . ima play that till least 5
[04:34] <whyameye> I have Windows Media Player 6.4 and 7.0 running under Wine. Any way to add codecs to these? Also, how can I change the file associations in Wine?
[04:35] <nalioth> whyameye: to my knowledge, wmp updates itself as needed
[04:35] <whyameye> nalioth, it's not finding codecs I need to play videos off of my digital camera.
[04:35] <pepsi> ubuntu does not use inetd?
[04:36] <matthew_w> What's enemy territory like, and where do I get it?
[04:36] <nalioth> whyameye: why dont you import your videos and use a linux media player?
[04:36] <chavo> matthew_w, it started out as an addition to castle wolfestein
[04:36] <tga> nooo.. my buuuggy!
[04:37] <whyameye> nalioth, that would be fine, except I don't think anything I've found touches Google's Picasa2, so that's what I want to use for my pics. I run that under Wine. Problem is, it tries to use WMP for the videos...
[04:37] <sly> snes roms are the way forward
[04:37] <tga> pepsi, yes it does
[04:37] <matthew_w> I have so many snes roms I can't walk.
[04:37] <chavo> matthew_w, it's free and linux native
[04:37] <Serpentwolf> hi guys, how does one install java jdk on ubuntu ?
[04:37] <tga> picasa is pretty nice
[04:37] <matthew_w> chavo - and I assume widely played?
[04:37] <matthew_w> flightgear = cool
[04:37] <chavo> matthew_w, yes
[04:37] <nalioth> whyameye: i'd try to get a more modern version of wmp running
[04:37] <whyameye> nalioth, now what would be *cool* is if I could change the file associations in Wine so Picasa2 runs xine for the videos. But that seems unlikely to work...
[04:38] <whyameye> nalioth, will wine run anything newer? I tried 10.0 and couldn't get it to work...
[04:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello.
[04:38] <bimberi> !tell Serpentwolf about java
[04:38] <pepsi> tga, how can i get ident to work?
[04:38] <nalioth> whyameye: you might also want to give cedega-cvs a run
[04:38] <Serpentwolf> thanks
[04:38] <tga> pepsi, it should already be working.. what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <chavo> I just got done playing a little and will be playing again in  a little bit
[04:38] <bimberi> yw :)
[04:39] <pepsi> tga, get it to start when i bootup
[04:39] <pepsi> brb
[04:39] <matthew_w> What does it mean when dpkg returns "status database area is locked by another process"
[04:39] <whyameye> nalioth, what's cedega-cvs?
[04:39] <tga> doesn't inetd start by default?
[04:39] <bimberi> matthew_w: that you're running synaptic
[04:39] <matthew_w> Oh
[04:39] <matthew_w> lol
[04:39] <matthew_w> So it does
[04:39] <nalioth> whyameye: cedega is a commecial version of wine, cedega-cvs is the freely available (no support) version we can use
[04:39] <tga> long live the gpl
[04:40] <whyameye> nalioth, good to know. I'll check it out!
[04:40] <pepsi> tga, i installed the ident2 package because i couldnt figure out how else to make it work, but i have to start ident2 by hand each time i startup
[04:40] <Logi_> does anyone know how to enable AllowOverride for apache2?
[04:40] <chavo> matthew_w, http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.html
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> yeah, for tuxracer
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> hehe
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> great game
[04:40] <tga> pepsi, are you sure identd doesn't already start at bootup?
[04:40] <pepsi> yes
[04:40] <tga> pepsi, ps aux |grep inetd
[04:40] <pepsi> tga, nothing
[04:41] <Logi_> i did <Directory /var/www> \n AllowOverride all \n </Directory> and it doesn't work
[04:41] <wastrel> hmm, why do the gnome print dialogs suck so much
[04:41] <wastrel> they made them user friendly by taking out all the options and now they're useless
[04:41] <tga> pepsi, I'm thinking maybe your /etc/inetd.conf is bad or something
[04:42] <sly> gmmmmmmm
[04:42] <pepsi> tga, inetd doesnt exist
[04:42] <pepsi> shouldnt it be in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?
[04:42] <sly> my about:plugins in firefox returns no java, but it was there just half hour ago when i was playing yahoo pool
[04:42] <tga> /usr/sbin/inetd
[04:43] <tga> the pool table ate your java
[04:43] <pepsi> tga,... right... doesnt exist... im using breezy btw :)
[04:43] <tga> pepsi, do you have an xinetd?
[04:43] <sly> yeh i got raped of my hava, from the guy who beat me
[04:43] <pepsi> no i dont
[04:43] <tga> pepsi, in any case, to make something start at bootup you use update-rc.d
[04:44] <pepsi> ok
[04:44] <tga> pepsi, update-rc.d inetd defaults
[04:44] <Logi_> anyone know?
[04:44] <weijie90> hi
[04:44] <weijie90> how do i add TTF fonts?
[04:44] <walter> when apt get downloads the files will it delete them after there installed and you dont need the archive anymore
[04:45] <matthew_w> Well
[04:45] <chavo> weijie90, mkdir ~/.fonts -> cp font.ttf ~/.fonts
[04:45] <odat> so anyone have any idea about getting the graphics chip doing what it should?
[04:45] <chavo> unless you want them system wide
[04:45] <matthew_w> Nero for linux didn't accept my Nero 5.0 deluxe key :O  which I bought a week before I switched from m$
[04:45] <matthew_w> So I feel justified in borrowing someone elses.  *cough* ...  Now where do I get enemy territory?
[04:45] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, apt-get install nvtv
[04:45] <weijie90> so will xfce or any x11 window manager like icewm detect ~/fonts?
[04:46] <nalioth> matthew_w: why use nero when k3b perfectly usable?
[04:46] <sly> nvtv dont like me either, says unsurported chip
[04:46] <tga> weijie90, that's where the X server looks, it has nothing to do with the window manager
[04:46] <nalioth> weijie90: your system will see your ~/.fonts
[04:46] <chavo> weijie90, yes, but only for you not any other users
[04:46] <weijie90> ic
[04:46] <matthew_w> DVD video burning, with menus, etc. etc.     Plus, I paid for it, and now I can't use it, so why not?  lol
[04:46] <weijie90> thanks!
[04:46] <chavo> sure
[04:46] <janga> weijie90: easier way: fonts:/// in nautilus
[04:46] <nalioth> matthew_w: if you paid, then you should call nero and ask them why it doesnt work
[04:46] <chavo> which reminds me, I'm gonna clean up my .fonts
[04:47] <matthew_w> nalioth - I know why, I bought nero 5.0 from the store up the road, it wants nero 6.0... I'm not going to buy another 40 dollar burning program x-x
[04:47] <tga> matthew_w, call nero and ask about an upgrade
[04:47] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, it says it can't find the package nvtv
[04:47] <chavo> cool there's a fonts:/ in konqueror also
[04:47] <vu> What filesystem is this: W95 Ext'd (LBA)?
[04:47] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, it's probably in the universe repository
[04:48] <nalioth> matthew_w: then dvdauthor + k3b may be for you
[04:48] <runelind> probably been asked a million time, but is the new gnome in ubuntu yet?
[04:48] <chavo> but browsing .fonts with konq gives you thumbnails
[04:48] <daggie> Heh just about to ask meself runelind
[04:48] <paul_> hello ya'll
[04:48] <tga> vu, fat32 maybe
[04:48] <matthew_w> nalioth - I can't for the life of me figure out dvdauthor ... :(
[04:48] <ficusplanet> runelind, In Breezy, yes.  The preview will be out tomorrow.
[04:48] <matthew_w> I have graveman, but it doesn't seem to do DVD videos.
[04:48] <runelind> ficusplanet: oh the agonizing wait!
[04:48] <IcemanV9> runelind, daggie: million times yes ;)
[04:49] <tga> how traumatic will upgrading to breezy be when it comes out?
[04:49] <paul_> how do I load video on ubuntu
[04:49] <daggie> icemanv9, heh no joke. Just curious if it is worth upgrading to the new gnome. Or something simply to be left to a clean install.
[04:50] <ficusplanet> runelind, You can use it right now if you're that anxious.  I've been using Breezy for a few weeks without issue.
[04:50] <geneo93> gnome 2.12 is in breezy
[04:50] <vu> tga,   Hmm...I compiled the kernel with ntfs and vfat support. It does not somehow recognise: --> mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat32'
[04:50] <tga> imho it's not worth messing up your system just to get the new gnome 2 days early
[04:50] <tga> vu, there is no vfat32.. check your /etc/fstab
[04:50] <IcemanV9> daggie: if you see the video tour of gnome 2.12, then you'll LOVE it! :)
[04:50] <daggie> vu, I thought something had to be either vfat or fat32
[04:50] <geneo93> fat32
[04:50] <daggie> icemanv9, then to google I go.
[04:50] <wastrel> IcemanV9, are the print dialogs less sucky?
[04:51] <regeya> gnome2, now with fewer features?
[04:51] <IcemanV9> er, daggie, not video .. very nice tour
[04:51] <ngmlinux_> can someone help me set up an apt-get repository
[04:51] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, I tried updateing after enabling universe, however it's not able to find a package
[04:51] <IcemanV9> sorry. i was workin' on the video here. heh
[04:51] <occy> anyone here know about wireless security stuff?  And don't mind helping me with securing my setup?
[04:51] <matthew_w> Is there any way to write DVD video with chapter selection etc. with graveman and dvdauthor?
[04:51] <daggie> icemanv9, yeah saw that. looks good. I hope nautilous is less sucky now.
[04:51] <occy> Or have a "Wireless for Dummies" howto link somewhere?
[04:51] <IcemanV9> wastrel: i don't remember about the print part
[04:51] <vu> daggie,  Haha nice one wait lemme c
[04:52] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, Section: universe/admin
[04:52] <jcd1006> how do you add the extentions on to firefox?
[04:52] <ngmlinux_> wireless is not really supported on ubuntu
[04:52] <runelind> wireless is a fad anyways
[04:52] <occy> ngmlinux_, heh, I'm using wireless right now.
[04:52] <runelind> people don't want to be free from wires
[04:52] <daggie> wireless? I am using it right now.
[04:52] <runelind> they want to be tethered down and restricted
[04:52] <IcemanV9> ngmlinux_: yes it is ... only if you check the wiki page for supported wifi cards
[04:52] <occy> anyway...
[04:52] <ngmlinux_> yeah exactly "supporte dcards'
[04:52] <regeya> someday regular gcc will have regular objective-c++.  then we can get apps like camino going.
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> anyone??
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> apt-get ?
[04:53] <occy> I need to find a "Wireless networking security for Moron's howto" or some sort of thing.
[04:53] <IcemanV9> mine is dwl-g650
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> anyone have a year or two experience wiht apt-get?
[04:53] <regeya> dude, it's on my resume, ngmlinux_
[04:53] <kevogod> apt-get rules.
[04:53] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, what am I suppost to change now? I'm kind of a newbie to linux
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> regeya, can you pm me for a minutes
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> i have some apt-get questions
[04:53] <regeya> just ask your question in-channel ngmlinux_
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> i just had having to scroll back and fourth regeya
[04:54] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, if you have the universe repository added to your list and you update you should be able to get nvtv
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> but alright,
[04:54] <runelind> oh the slowness of the breezy download
[04:54] <regeya> muh muh muh meh mih moh muh.
[04:54] <tga> Nautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> regeya: go to http://www.scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/1.0/doc/installdoc.html#AEN32
[04:54] <tga> w00t, new revolutionary spatialness popularised in.. the original Mac?
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> and look at 2.2.1
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> regeya
[04:55] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, when I try to update it complains about a file missing
[04:55] <regeya> rofflecopters
[04:55] <jcd1006> can anyone tell me how to download and install extentions in firefox?
[04:55] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, what file?
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> regeya, it says add deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./
[04:55] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, sources.list
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> to sources.list
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> regeya
[04:55] <daggie> tga, I am more happy with the ``over 200 bug fixes''
[04:56] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, are you running hoary? sounds like there's something wrong with your apt
[04:56] <ngmlinux_> regeya, i have AMD64 not i386, i know where the AMD64 repository is, but not how ot set it to work, i get an error when I apt-get install scratchbox and  i don't know how to fix it
[04:56] <IcemanV9> oy! breezy-livecd is little bit larger than 650mb now :(
[04:56] <regeya> oi.  I dinnae laddie
[04:56] <daggie> Wow... did they really dump firefox as default browser?
[04:57] <wastrel> they did that a while ago
[04:57] <regeya> no way daggie...seriously?
[04:57] <ngmlinux_> regeya, do you think that is something you might be able to help wiht?
[04:57] <wastrel> for that gnome browser
[04:57] <regeya> oi.  i dinnae laddie ngmlinux_
[04:57] <IcemanV9> daggie: what's the default browser now?
[04:57] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, I'm running hoary
[04:57] <ngmlinux_> regeya: ?
[04:57] <regeya> don't know ngmlinux_, sorry
[04:58] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, what do you get when you run `sudo apt-get update` in a terminal?
[04:58] <daggie> icemanv9,regeya, uhh epiphany??
[04:58] <ngmlinux_> does anyone else know how ot use apt-get?
[04:58] <luckyaba> im installing ubuntu on another compter and am getting a base system error from bootstrap
[04:58] <luckyaba> any ideas?
[04:58] <matthew_w> Why is it that when I copy my futurama season 1 disc, it only uses 1.4 gb.. when theres like 4.7 on a DVD?  Is that a problem w/ nero?
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> ok, I'm going to paste exactly what I get
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu>   302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[04:58] <daggie> regeya, I have never heard of it. <3 firefox
[04:58] <CCFIEL> hello. what is lighter browser firefox or opera?
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> root@localhost:~/downloaded-packages# apt-get install scratchbox-core
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, sounds like there's a problem with your mirror
[04:59] <regeya> epiphany is the official gnome web browser
[04:59] <IcemanV9> yea, epiphany is the default web browser for the gnome .. guess they'll use it then
[04:59] <Will^Draven> <3 firefox
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[04:59] <yonkeltron> hi guys i am having some trouble burning CDs with k3b and cdrecord
[04:59] <tomasino> anybody there?
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[05:00] <nalioth> NB_Ubuntu: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[05:00] <jcd1006> can someone please let me know how to install the extensions on firefox...when i go to the site and try it that way it says that i have to have an up to date version, its the most recent that ubuntu would download, anyone able to help?
[05:00] <regeya> E: I don't like spam
[05:00] <Logi_> anyone here good with apache?
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> can some one please explain apt-get to me?
[05:00] <tomasino> Can anyone help with seting up a file share between a Sin XP and Ubuntu????
[05:00] <tga> Logi_, try #apache
[05:00] <daggie> Logi_, #apache will most likely be your best bet.
[05:00] <nalioth> !tell ngmlinux_ about synaptic
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> i've been trying to figure it out for a few days
[05:00] <Logi_> tga / daggie no one is answering
[05:00] <tomasino> Win Xp and Ubuntu
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> !tell nalioth synapic does not support the app i want ot install
[05:01] <tomasino> Apache you say?
[05:01] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, try replacing 'us' with 'ca' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then update
[05:01] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: what exactly do you want to do/install?
[05:01] <tomasino> Wasn't it supposed to be Samba??
[05:01] <froggy25> how do you install pearpc
[05:01] <froggy25> and how do you get it to work
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, can you pm me where it's eaiser to read?
[05:01] <daggie> logi_, just supply a detailed description of the problem. They will get back to you.
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> this text moves too fast
[05:01] <froggy25> i have mac os x 10.4 tiger
[05:01] <froggy25> and i want to try it out on here
[05:02] <froggy25> but i dont know what to do to get started
[05:02] <dabaR> froggy25: well, its in official repositories, so you can use your install program to install it. How it works, I have no clue, I just heard of it for the first time now.
[05:02] <sinned> anyone here run synergy?
[05:02] <tga> everbody wait until ngmlinux_'s done reading, mmkay?
[05:02] <tga> sinned, no luck with synergys?
[05:02] <brentdax> I have an Ubuntu laptop (x86) and an Ubuntu desktop (AMD64).  Can I get sound on the laptop to play through the desktop's speakers, preferably with an easy way to turn this off when I'm not near my desktop?  (I think all the sound apps I care about play nicely with esd.)
[05:02] <sinned> I don't get how to setup the config file
[05:02] <sinned> Like what to put
[05:03] <tga> sinned, paste your synergys.conf in #flood
[05:03] <matthew_w> Ok here's a good question...
[05:03] <sinned> I don't have one yet
[05:03] <sinned> I'm trying to write one
[05:03] <matthew_w> How in the name of GOD do I make a DVD menu?  Like.. something that shows the chapters.
[05:03] <sinned> bUt don't know what to include
[05:03] <tga> sinned, I'll take a look
[05:03] <sinned> I was looking for like a sample config
[05:03] <sinned> or if someone had one that could show me
[05:03] <tga> I don't have mine handy
[05:03] <sinned> :(
[05:04] <IcemanV9> on which player, matthew_w ??
[05:05] <IcemanV9> try to right-click on the screen/picture
[05:05] <tga> sinned, synergys.conf looks really easy
[05:05] <jcd1006> anyone in here know much about unix?
[05:05] <matthew_w> IcemanV9;  I'm using Nero for Linux... I just need to create that menu like.. you know "select episode" kinda stuff
[05:05] <tga> sinned, I'll give you a hand in private if you want
[05:05] <sinned> k
[05:05] <tga> jcd1006, what's that?
[05:06] <sly> lol @ tga :)
[05:06] <hmrocha> hello
[05:06] <chavo> sinned, I paste my .synergy.conf in #flood
[05:06] <sly> im still chasing that pool table for my java back
[05:06] <sinned> post again chavo
[05:06] <hmrocha> i think i'll have a lot of trouble with ubuntu...
[05:06] <IcemanV9> oh! burn dvd stuff. it is over my head since i don't own dvd-burner. sorry.
[05:06] <nalioth> tritium: really? unix sounds like my old housemaids name
[05:06] <hmrocha> ...do you know how to change the settings for the audio and video groups?
[05:06] <hmrocha> i mean...
[05:06] <chavo> there
[05:06] <IcemanV9> thought you were talking about playing DVD movie
[05:07] <tga> hmrocha, why would you want to change them?
[05:07] <matthew_w> hehe
[05:07] <matthew_w> it's ok
[05:07] <hmrocha> tga, all my users are only available through AD
[05:07] <tritium> nalioth, was your main a castrated man?
[05:07] <tritium> s/main/maid
[05:07] <tga> euh, AD
[05:07] <nalioth> ah, well eunice is close to unix
[05:07] <Vaske_Car> How to enlarge windows??? I use high resolution and all windows are small..   ???
[05:07] <hmrocha> they belong to the group "students"
[05:08] <chavo> synergy is awesome, I use it on Windows and Linux on both computers
[05:08] <hmrocha> and i want them to be able to listen to mp3 and watch videos
[05:08] <tga> yeah, the clipboard sharing is cool
[05:08] <hmrocha> but since they're not in the audio/video groups, they can't
[05:08] <Kyral> Vaske_Car, the same way you do in Windows..
[05:08] <jcd1006> how do you install programs, such as firefox 1.06?
[05:09] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:09] <hmrocha> i want to change system settings to say that all users in "students" are the ones that can access audio
[05:09] <Madpilot> !tell jcd1006 about synaptic
[05:09] <hmrocha> something like that
[05:09] <Kyral> ubotu tell jcd1006 about repos
[05:09] <bimberi> tritium: might only be you and me though :)
[05:09] <tga> hmm can you add a group to another group?
[05:09] <hmrocha> tga, not possible in unix
[05:09] <tritium> bimberi, you never know...
[05:09] <tga> thought so
[05:10] <Vaske_Car> Kyral: its not like in Windows...
[05:10] <Vaske_Car> or i dont see it
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, do me a favor please...
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, ls -l /dev/dsp
[05:10] <Sly-Sleep> takecare
[05:10] <tga> hmrocha, you could just chown students /dev/<sound stuff>
[05:10] <sn0n> allo all
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, give me the output please (i don't have a sound card here
[05:10] <tga> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-09-07 17:05 /dev/dsp
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, that's what i was thinking about :)
[05:10] <tga> if you can't bring the students to the group
[05:11] <tga> ..bring the group to the students
[05:11] <tga> or something
[05:11] <sn0n> anyone here a firefox pro ?
[05:11] <hmrocha> tga, great!!! chown root:students /dev/dsp should work
[05:11] <tga> yep
[05:11] <hmrocha> what about video?
[05:11] <hmrocha> what's the device?
[05:12] <tga> hmm.. I don't think there's a video device
[05:12] <hmrocha> tga, strange, there's a video group
[05:13] <tritium> yep
[05:13] <jcd1006> ok, now that i have firefox 1.06 installed how do i do the extensions?
[05:14] <nalioth> jcd1006: they should install themselves from mozilla's extension page
[05:14] <tga> hmrocha, I've got /dev/agpart, raw1394 and card0 under video
[05:14] <Vaske_Car> awww niceee  resolution 1400by1050 refresha rate 85Hz  :)
[05:14] <hmrocha> tga, ok, thanks very much, i'll write that down
[05:15] <tga> hmrocha, I think you only need to be in group video if you do 3d accel, but I might be wrong
[05:15] <tritium> that's right, tga
[05:15] <sn0n> how do i become a package maintainer ?
[05:15] <hmrocha> tga, i do 3d accel, students want cool screensavers
[05:15] <sn0n> there are a few things i believe should be in , but arent
[05:15] <hmrocha> :)
[05:15] <emtrix> following a string from ubuntu support-forum, tells me to cmd in terminal: "sudo m-a".. m-a?? this command gives me this: "sudo: m-a: command not found"
[05:16] <nalioth> sn0n: read the wiki or ask in #ubuntu-motu
[05:16] <sn0n> motu ?
[05:16] <linner> hey ya'll... how's it hangin'?
[05:17] <adoyretsamon> breezy
[05:17] <jcd1006> nalioth: it says that i appear to be using firefox in ubuntu and that he had a bug that has been fixed but i have to do "Setting general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in about:config seems to let me access addons.mozilla.org"  which i don't know how to do
[05:17] <bimberi> sn0n: masters of the universe :)
[05:17] <adoyretsamon> linner, seems breezy to me
[05:17] <sn0n> mmm
[05:17] <Vaske_Car> does anybody know how to setup player to play streams when I click on the link?
[05:17] <nalioth> jcd1006: hang on a minute
[05:17] <Vaske_Car> link*
[05:17] <jcd1006> ok, thanks
[05:17] <jcd1006> nalioth: ok, thanks
[05:17] <sn0n> but i'd like my packages to have the pretty ubunut logo and in the main repo's
[05:17] <sn0n> not the ones people have to 'add'
[05:18] <sn0n> its just silly how a 'desktop' based distro has apache, but no RSS Readers.. ya kno..
[05:18] <Madpilot> sn0n: isn't Blam in Hoary?
[05:18] <nalioth> jcd1006: in your firefox address bar, paste "about:config" and find the line you just pasted to me (the vendorSub part). change that value to 1.0.4
[05:19] <kevogod> I use Sage in Firefox
[05:19] <scanwinder> when i try to setup wine, it says its detected its been run as super user...................but thats when i run it as normal user..............anyone else come across this?
[05:19] <sn0n> isnt blam mono based ?
[05:19] <NoHope> Gnome 2.12 is released!
[05:19] <sn0n> aka : blam wouldnt be
[05:19] <NoHope> Do you know when will it be in repos?
[05:19] <sn0n> NoHope, its already in breezy im sure
[05:20] <geneo93> NoHope:  its in breezy
[05:20] <Madpilot> sn0n: Blam is in Universe; same repo as Apache/Apache2, FWIW...
[05:20] <NoHope> geneo93, sn0n, no Hoary? Is it better to wait stable Breezy?
[05:20] <NB_Ubuntu> so where should I point sources.list to try to get nvtv to download properly?
[05:20] <froggy25> how do you set up pearpc
[05:20] <jcd1006> nalioth:  it gave me "XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[05:20] <jcd1006> Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul Line Number 1, Column 7:"
[05:20] <geneo93> NoHope:  i have breezy here and its quite stable for me
[05:20] <sn0n> but what im sayin.. is that a regular user shouldn't have to 'add' repos.. things like Liferea and other general use things should be able to be added without 'hacking at configs'
[05:20] <nalioth> jcd1006: just "about:config" without the quote marks
[05:20] <NoHope> geneo93, how to download it? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:21] <jcd1006> nalioth: thats what i did
[05:21] <ficusplanet> sn0n, In Breezy, universe and multiverse are automatically added if you try to install an app from them in gnome-app-install.
[05:21] <geneo93> NoHope:  change repos to breezy
[05:21] <sn0n> ahh..
[05:21] <ficusplanet> sn0n, And in hoary, you can add the repos in synaptic.
[05:21] <ficusplanet> (by just checking a few boxes)
[05:21] <nalioth> jcd1006: then i'm lost at this point
[05:21] <thoreauputic> sn0n: canonical can't be expected to support 16 000 or so packages
[05:21] <sn0n> ficusplanet, i know you can add it.. but it should be 'automagically' dont
[05:21] <sn0n> done*
[05:22] <sn0n> thoreauputic, thats why i asked how to become a maintainer
[05:22] <NoHope> geneo93, just s/hoary/breezy in sources.list?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> sn0n: fair enough :)
[05:22] <jcd1006> nalioth: ok, well thanks for trying
[05:22] <jcd1006> can anyone help me with firefox extensions?
[05:22] <linner> hey ya'll
[05:22] <sn0n> i'll gladly keep liferea updated, if it gets added to the main repo's like things like it should be
[05:22] <linner> how goes it?
[05:22] <geneo93> NoHope:  that should work also
[05:23] <NoHope> geneo93, and what?
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> anyone ever got error while booting like "Kernel Panic , init not found" ??? I passed init=/init to kernel but still having this error
[05:23] <linner> Thoreauputic:  your help last night allowed me to do my first install and for that I wanted to tell you how greatful I really am... thank you!
[05:23] <NoHope> geneo93, will apt-get upgrade work?
[05:23] <tritium> thoreauputic rocks
[05:23] <linner> why yes he does
[05:23] <thoreauputic> linner: great! You're welcome :)
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> NoHope, isn't it apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:23] <linner> :)
[05:23] <NoHope> wickedpuppy, oh yap. thx.
[05:23] <geneo93> NoHope:  just do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> I cant get RealPlayer....  windsor@zmaj:~$ sudo apt-get install realplayer
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Password:
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Reading package lists... Done
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> E: Couldn't find package realplayer
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> windsor@zmaj:~$
[05:24] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, look for Helix
[05:24] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, or HelixPlayer
[05:24] <NoHope> wickedpuppy, geneo93, Ubuntu is wonderful. I don't need to format my partition again ;) thx.
[05:24] <regeya> wait wait wait...clearlooks is listed as a new gnome feature?
[05:24] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: youre serbian, right?
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> can it play streams?
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> yes
[05:24] <Madpilot> !tell Vaske_Car about repos
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[05:25] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, Helixplayer is the RealPlayer's linux / unix community project
[05:25] <dabaR> cool, Im originally from beograd, and then I lived in Zagreb for a while.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> oops
[05:25] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, so.. yes
[05:25] <Vaske_Car> just a sec
[05:25] <regeya> and a feature borrowed from mac classic is a great new feature?
[05:25] <sn0n> helixcommunity.org i believe
[05:25] <scanwinder> why does WineSetupTk say its been run as superuser when ive run it as normal user???
[05:25] <sn0n> yeah
[05:25] <sn0n> https://helixcommunity.org/
[05:26] <geneo93> thoreauputic:  how can i use my tape drive dmesg  says its there but  lsmod doesn't
[05:26] <dabaR> scanwinder: cause you are really a superuser, and you dont even know it/are too modest...
[05:26] <scanwinder> dabaR: i definantley did it as a normal user
[05:27] <crimsun> ngmlinux_: please paste the entire error message onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:27] <crimsun> walter: cat /proc/asound/version
[05:27] <walter> wb
[05:28] <thoreauputic> geneo93: sorry - never used a tape drive in my life :|
[05:28] <walter> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8.
[05:28] <walter> Compiled on Sep  8 2005 for kernel 2.6.10-5-386.
[05:28] <sn0n> thoreauputic, never?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> sn0n: nope
[05:28] <sn0n> thoreauputic, man.. i was using them ina 6th grade class.. back in like 93ish..
[05:29] <sn0n> but even then they were a lil dated
[05:29] <sn0n> had some fun games thou.. i tell ya..
[05:29] <crimsun> walter: please paste the contents of /proc/asound onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:29] <thoreauputic> sn0n: I'm not an IT person - using linux for a few years is all
[05:29] <sn0n> unless you mean the 'current' backup tape drives
[05:29] <sn0n> i used them in 6th grade to play games.. LoL.. i was a teachers pet..:-D
[05:30] <NoHope> some problem to dist-upgrade with X opened and running?
[05:30] <scanwinder> can you order ubuntu breezy cd's yet?
[05:30] <geneo93> sn0n:  i talking about a seagate 8 gig drive
[05:30] <scanwinder> or is the order thing just hoary?
[05:30] <sn0n> NoHope, there will be a couple panel errors.. but nothing bad
[05:30] <thoreauputic> sn0n: I have , however, used punch cards ;-)
[05:30] <NoHope> sn0n,  good, thx.
[05:31] <walter> it doesnt exist that folder
[05:31] <geneo93> thoreauputic:  you mean tabulator cards
[05:31] <phayze2> does anyone know how to use SSH?
[05:31] <crimsun> walter: /proc/asound has many contents
[05:31] <crimsun> phayze2: ssh user@host
[05:31] <scanwinder> when you use the shipit thing on the ubuntu website, will that send out hoary or breezy cd's
[05:31] <scanwinder> ?
[05:32] <crimsun> scanwinder: breezy if you order after breezy's release
[05:32] <thoreauputic> geneo93: on an IBM mainframe at university long ago - IBM 360 from memory
[05:32] <phayze2> crimsun: i'm already on my university's server, i just want to know how to copy my file onto my user account at the university's server
[05:32] <phayze2> er if that makes sense
[05:32] <matthew_w> How can I get ubuntu to accept libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 and libwxgtk 2.4.3.1 ?
[05:32] <scanwinder> crimsun: when is breezy going to be released?
[05:32] <crimsun> phayze2: not really, you need to clarify where your file resides
[05:32] <msfrank> scanwinder: no breezy for another month
[05:32] <crimsun> scanwinder: october
[05:32] <scanwinder> crimsun: thanks
[05:32] <crimsun> matthew_w: you don't, because that will break things
[05:32] <geneo93> oct 13th
[05:33] <matthew_w> crimsun; err... well, how do I get this program to install - dependencies and whatnot?
[05:33] <crimsun> phayze2: please keep in-channel
[05:33] <NB_Ubuntu> I didn't see if anyone responded to my question about a good deb line for hoary universe..
[05:33] <crimsun> NB_Ubuntu: same line as for main but add universe
[05:34] <phayze2> k
[05:34] <matthew_w> crimsun; it's DVDStyler
[05:34] <crimsun> matthew_w: and from where are you attempting to install it?
[05:34] <NB_Ubuntu> crimsun, the only one it has that isn't commented out is to get it from the cdrom
[05:34] <flankk> I have a box here where the audio chipset doesn't work, and wasn't detected.  I have tried compiling alsa in the past to no avail.  The chipset is onboard and not faulty.  The chip is old, not PnP compatible, and there is no related options in the BIOS.  Help?
[05:35] <matthew_w> crimsun; it's a .deb.  The problem is ubuntu apparently doesn't like it...
[05:35] <msfrank> flankk: what is the chipset?
[05:36] <crimsun> NB_Ubuntu: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:36] <daveb_> Hello, I accidentally put an error into my sudoers file and can no longer use the sudo commands. Is there a way I can fix this and not have to reinstall?
[05:36] <bimberi> daveb_: yes, you have to boot into recovery mode and edit the sudoers file from there
[05:36] <thoreauputic> daveb_: boot in recovery mode and run "visudo"
[05:36] <crimsun> matthew_w: that's because dvdstyler was not compiled for your Ubuntu version
[05:36] <flankk> msfrank, I don't know and lspci does not detect it.
[05:36] <phayze2> crimsun: i telnetted to heart.cecs.csulb.edu and used SSH to log onto one of the machines called ecs306mac195.  i want to copy a file from my computer, specifically chapter1question1.cc into the home folder of "jguevarr" (my username on the remote machine)..
[05:37] <thoreauputic> daveb_: but read man sudoers first :)
[05:37] <daveb_> Okay, I will try, thanks.
[05:37] <matthew_w> crimsun; clearly.  I think I'll use QDvdauthor from Marillat.
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> in what folder is installed Helix by default?
[05:38] <crimsun> phayze2: on your home computer, scp chapter1question1.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:.
[05:38] <msfrank> flankk: hrmm.. do you know any other information about the motherboard?  what does lspci say the host bridge is?  manufacturer?  model?
[05:38] <crimsun> phayze2: the trailing '.' is important
[05:38] <chris> could anyone in here help me with ubuntu?
[05:38] <murtaugh> hey are there debs out for gnome 2.12?
[05:38] <flankk> msfrank, Intel Corp. 440LX/EX
[05:39] <msfrank> murtaugh: in breezy
[05:39] <murtaugh> no hoary huh...
[05:39] <thoreauputic> !tell chris about ask
[05:39] <crimsun> walter: have you pasted the contents?
[05:39] <murtaugh> how do I use ask?
[05:39] <walter> crabstic,  i posted an ls of the directory
[05:39] <chris> could someone help me fix the resolution? Its at like 640x340 and it says that I can't change it..
[05:39] <geneo93> sn0n:  this is lsmod ide_tape               39184  0
[05:39] <geneo93> and dmesg [4294713.945000]  ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: Seagate STT8000A rev 5.51
[05:39] <walter> crimsun, i mean
[05:39] <grimdeath> can anyone recommend a good tutorial for getting my ati radeon 9800 pro video card working? 3d render and such
[05:39] <crimsun> walter: no, I need to see the contents of all the files in /proc/asound
[05:39] <flankk> msfrank, Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA
[05:39] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <grimdeath> updating drivers*
[05:39] <Madpilot> !tell grimdeath about ati
[05:40] <flankk> msfrank, it is on the ISA bus..
[05:40] <chris> !fixres
[05:40] <walter> I dont know how to do that
[05:40] <NB_Ubuntu> gah... still error in connecting for updates
[05:40] <crimsun> flankk: do you have pcmcia-cs installed? You need the lspnp utility.
[05:40] <msfrank> flankk: mm, this could be difficult
[05:40] <murtaugh> is anyone here running breezy? last I heard X was broken
[05:41] <geneo93> i am
[05:41] <tritium> murtaugh, that was some time ago
[05:41] <flankk> crimsun, I've tried that utility before, it detected something on ISA.. but it was difficult to use..
[05:41] <crimsun> walter: find /proc/asound -exec cat '{}' ';'
[05:41] <geneo93> nvidia driver 7467
[05:41] <murtaugh> upgrading to breezy is just a matter of changing the apt repository right
[05:41] <crimsun> MrNaughty: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)
[05:41] <crimsun> MrNaughty: sorry
[05:41] <crimsun> murtaugh: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)
[05:41] <NB_Ubuntu> hm... I can browse to it in mozilla
[05:42] <NB_Ubuntu> bbiab
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> murtaugh, mine was broken when i did dist-upgrade ... but its solvable
[05:42] <murtaugh> hmm ok i'll give it a try on my test box, thanks guys
[05:43] <tga> is dasher usable? with ubuntu?
[05:43] <walter> done
[05:43] <Vexir> I just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?
[05:43] <phayze2> crimsun: it says no such file or directory
[05:43] <murtaugh> oh one more question :)  is inotify enabled in breezy?
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> I installed HelixPlayer but it still can not play streams... do I have to do any package installation for streams??
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> this is the link: http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls
[05:43] <flankk> crimsun, I'm installing the package now.
[05:43] <crimsun> phayze2: chapter1question1.cc needs to be in the current directory, or you need to provide the full path to it
[05:44] <crimsun> murtaugh: yes
[05:44] <murtaugh> crimsun: thanks
[05:44] <msfrank> flankk: i hate to say it, you might just want to go out and pick up a cheapo pci audio card.. support for ISA hardware is going the way of the dodo
[05:45] <flankk> msfrank, this isn't my box.  I'm willing to move my buddy over to linux, but not to buy him hardware :|
[05:45] <crimsun> flankk: please install the pcmcia-cs package, then execute the ''lspnp'' utility from a terminal
[05:45] <FR500> hello
[05:45] <daveb_> That worked perfectly, thank you! :)
[05:45] <msfrank> flankk: haha
[05:45] <weijie90> hi
[05:45] <FR500> frankly speaking, do you think OO.org spreadsheet can compete with excel?
[05:45] <weijie90> how do i make a program run automatically when i login?
[05:45] <Vexir> I just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> Vexir, get a good burn and install without problems ?
[05:46] <tritium> weijie90, have you saved your session on logout?
[05:46] <weijie90> huh?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> then if you still got problems , we will see how we can help you
[05:46] <codenut> Vexir, you can use a ndiswrapper, or comply with the compatible hardware list.
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> on my toshiba satellite 1200 , its fine
[05:46] <weijie90> i just want to run a command automatically on startup
[05:47] <tga> weijie90, what command is that?
[05:47] <weijie90> like gaim or eciadsl-start
[05:47] <codenut> I complied with the list and mine works fine
[05:47] <weijie90> im using xfce
[05:47] <codenut> I am using the card now.
[05:47] <tritium> I don't know about xfce
[05:47] <Vexir> codenut: Well I have a DWL-G520 dlink, and it can detect the card fine, just not the connection itself.
[05:47] <benplaut> i still can't find any diff between Gnoppix and Ubuntu, other than that Gnoppix can be installed to HDD from the liveCD
[05:47] <tga> weijie90, add it to .xsession
[05:47] <phayze2> crimsun: i've typed "scp /home/john/chapter1question2.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:." and it still gives me the same error message
[05:47] <weijie90> .xsession?
[05:47] <weijie90> hmm
[05:47] <phayze2> and the file is in /home/john
[05:47] <Madpilot> benplaut: Ubuntu is brown ;)
[05:47] <tritium> benplaut, I believe gnoppix started basing off of ubuntu
[05:48] <tga> $HOME/.xsession should get executed when you start X
[05:48] <benplaut> Madpilot, true... truw :P
[05:48] <tga> and by the way, that's not really startup, it's X startup
[05:48] <crimsun> phayze2: where is chapter1question2.cc?
[05:48] <benplaut> tritium, yeah... and almost no diff
[05:48] <phayze2> crimsun: /home/john/
[05:48] <communico> hey, does anyone know anything about settings up raids?
[05:48] <weijie90> is .xsession in ~/.xession?
[05:48] <tga> yes, it's ~/.xsession
[05:49] <weijie90> thanks!
[05:49] <kevogod> I wish Ubuntu used Clearlooks for the Window Border as the default
[05:49] <whyameye> what is Clearlooks?
[05:49] <tritium> kevogod, breezy ships with clearlooks theme
[05:49] <tga> the new gnome uses clearlooks so I guess it will
[05:49] <tritium> it's not default, but you can use it
[05:49] <crimsun> phayze2: and I presume you have write perms in your home dir on ecs306mac195?
[05:50] <Vaske_Car> What to install to be able to listen online radio?
[05:50] <RedGhost> i like glider
[05:50] <RedGhost> -_-
[05:50] <kevogod> whyameye, It is the default GNOME skin
[05:50] <weijie90> can gaim be launched through the command line?
[05:50] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)
[05:50] <crimsun> weijie90: sure, 'gaim'
[05:50] <FR500> Vaske_Car: streamtuner
[05:50] <weijie90> thanks
[05:50] <tga> weijie90, yes, but it does not work in the console
[05:50] <sepmike> does anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client
[05:50] <kevogod> whyameye, as of late
[05:50] <phayze2> my instructor said we can, but we cannot run programs once they are written to their server
[05:50] <weijie90> it just opens the window thingy rite?
[05:50] <FR500> is open office 2 very different from 1?
[05:51] <Madpilot> !tell Vexir about wireless
[05:51] <RedGhost> it launches the application the same way as the start menu
[05:51] <sepmike> -fullscreen
[05:51] <crimsun> phayze2: try specifying ~/. instead of just .
[05:51] <tga> FR500, shouldn't be
[05:51] <kevogod> FR500, It is better. There, now try it.
[05:51] <weijie90> FR500: yes... its much betyter
[05:51] <tga> FR500, just better than the latest 1.x
[05:51] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)
[05:51] <crimsun> though . should suffice
[05:51] <crimsun> walter: sec
[05:51] <weijie90> thanks everyone
[05:51] <FR500> better like faster or with more features?
[05:51] <crimsun> Vexir: is WEP/WPA/2 enabled on the AP?
[05:51] <tga> FR500, better like fewer bugs
[05:51] <walter> np
[05:52] <phayze2> crimsun: /home/john/chapter1question2.cc: No such file or directory
[05:52] <codenut> Vexir: could it be the data rate? like 4X. I have run into that before with DLINK NICS
[05:52] <tga> FR500, possibly faster
[05:52] <FR500> tga: what is keeping most of my friends going to linux is that, for example, i don't know if it's even possible to do pivot tables in OO
[05:52] <kevogod> Better as in a real contender for MSOffice
[05:52] <crimsun> phayze2: the error's pretty clear; /home/john/chapter1question2.cc does not exist or you lack read perms for it
[05:52] <Vexir> crimsun: WEP is disabled... my data rate is nothing wierd
[05:53] <kevogod> "Support for pivot tables has now been vastly improved with many new features added."
[05:53] <FR500> kevogod: kewl
[05:53] <FR500> Vexir: in the network config applet mark the "this device is configured" check
[05:53] <FR500> and then try to set your essid
[05:53] <crimsun> Vexir: using the breezy colony 4 live cd, does ''iwconfig'' show the essid of your ap?
[05:54] <Vexir> crimsun: what?
[05:54] <crimsun> Vexir: are you running Ubuntu at the moment?
[05:54] <FR500> kevogod: what about a database like msaccess?
[05:54] <regeya> gnome-launch-box!
[05:54] <kevogod> FR500: It includes a new program called Base
[05:55] <regeya> rock
[05:55] <FR500> of vfp, most office guys that need databases use that
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> where to find guides to install MGEG and MP3 support?
[05:55] <FR500> ok
[05:55] <FR500> nice
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> MPEG*
[05:55] <killapop> Hi people! I have a Toshiba Satellite A10 Notebook now running XP and Ubuntu Hoary. I've been using Ubuntu for the last 8 months without a problem. A few days ago, I installed some laptop utilities through synaptic and now when i boot up... i get past the login screen and then the screen remains blank for almost 5 mins before the gnome-panel loads... then eth0 is not configured and i have to manually config it each time i boot....
[05:55] <kevogod> FR500: I am not sure how powerful or comparable to Access it is, but you can try and find that out yourself
[05:55] <killapop> sorry for the long rant
[05:55] <FR500> i see
[05:55] <killapop> can anyone help?
[05:55] <FR500> in any case, i could install office xp i gues but i don't really like the idea
[05:55] <killapop> i removed the laptop utilties but still no fun
[05:56] <killapop> i mean its didnt fix the problem
[05:56] <tga> !tell Vaske_Car about restrictedformats
[05:56] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card) the Ubuntu wiki says its supported out of the box and should work very well...
[05:56] <thoreauputic> !tell Vaske_Car about mp3
[05:57] <phayze2> crimsun: thanks though, that was a lot of help
[05:57] <kevogod> FR500, I am not sure if you can install Base from the repos since it requires Java. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
[05:57] <Vexir> OH
[05:57] <crimsun> Vexir: you haven't answered my question
[05:57] <Vexir> I SEE
[05:57] <Vexir> crim: nono it says in the wiki that revision B of this card (i have this) wont work out of the box but theres some fix that i can do or sometihnsomething to make it work
[05:57] <flamesrock> $hi, I'm wondering if anyone here knows the best/easiest way to convert an avi into an mpg suitable for burning on to DVD? I swear, I've looked. Everything seems to be for vcd..
[05:58] <kevogod> FR500: Base would probably be unofficially supported by Ubuntu because of the Java requirement - I think it still is there
[05:58] <nalioth> flamesrock: the unicorn you seek is called "transcode"
[05:58] <FR500> kevogod: cool
[05:58] <bur[n] er> anyone know why gnome-panel wants to access my keyring for evolution passwords everytime I start my PC... is there anyway I can stop it?
[05:58] <tga> flamesrock, mencoder might help too
[05:58] <FR500> i hope mergeant gets supported for breezy
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> whats the command in apt-get to install the damn macromedia flash player?
[05:59] <AzMoo> Hi there. I just plugged in my digital camera, and I need to mount it, but I'm not sure what device it's on. dmesg shows that it's detected, so that's a good start. What device and fs do I need?
[05:59] <kevogod> FR500, The version of openoffice.org2 in the repos is old though... so I would not judge it based off of that
[05:59] <tga> anyone else having trouble with evolution eating up all the cpu?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> !flash
[05:59] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:59] <FR500> ok
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> i tried downloading it manually and installing it manually but i got the installation directory for mozilla wrong
[05:59] <flamesrock> thanks, tga, nalioth
[05:59] <kevogod> FR500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta
[05:59] <brownie17> where can i get a c++ compiler?
[05:59] <crimsun> build-essential, brownie17
[05:59] <nalioth> brownie17: install "build-essential"
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know where the default install directory for firefox is?????
[05:59] <flamesrock> isn't g++ good enoughm brownie17
[06:00] <brownie17> crimsun: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:00] <tga> shadeofgrey, /usr/lib/mozilla-frefox
[06:00] <crimsun> brownie17: yes
[06:00] <nalioth> brownie17: yes
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> thanks tga!'
[06:00] <bur[n] er> !tell shadeofgrey about flash
[06:00] <Vexir> crimsun: hey i sent you a PM, could you respond plz
[06:00] <phayze2> brownie17: Anjuta is a C++ compiler with a UI
[06:01] <brownie17> phayze2: i only want it so an program i am trying to install will work
[06:01] <peloverde> launchpad is telling me that the source package name i'm entering is invalid but it most certainly seems correct
[06:01] <peloverde> gnuradio-examples
[06:01] <brownie17> anyone here using DOOM3 on Ubuntu?
[06:01] <HrdwrBoB> brownie17: yeah
[06:01] <thoreauputic> not bad - trying toget used to using irssi more, so I'm a bit less involved on channel at the moment
[06:01] <brownie17> nalioth: why, when i open rythymbox, is there only two radiostations?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> bah wrong window !
[06:02] <nalioth> brownie17: b/c you havent added any more
[06:02] <Vexir> !tell Vexir about wireless
[06:02] <bimberi> thoreauputic: the irony :)
[06:02] <brownie17> hrdwrBob: i did everything the guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com told me to do, but now when i go to open it it just gives me a smaller resolution and leaves me on the dekstop with no mouse control?
[06:03] <brownie17> nalioth: where can i do that?
[06:03] <FR500> i get gpg errors when running apt-get update
[06:03] <FR500> how can i fix that?
[06:03] <nalioth> brownie17: in the menus, you can add radio stations
[06:03] <brownie17> FR500: give specific on the errors
[06:03] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heheh - I'm fiddling arond with split windows
[06:03] <HrdwrBoB> brownie17: run it on the command line, tell me what error it gives
[06:03] <sepmike> does anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client
[06:03] <FR500> brownie17: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:03] <FR500> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:03] <brownie17> nalioth: are you personally familiar with it? do you use it often?
[06:03] <FR500> sorry for pasting i forgot
[06:04] <bimberi> thoreauputic: i've tried it too, but have got very familiar with xchat
[06:04] <brownie17> FR500: i forgive you
[06:04] <nalioth> brownie17: i have used it, but not too much
[06:04] <trevor3307> hey....does anyone know of an RSS screensaver other than Mercury?
[06:05] <brownie17> nalioth: why would i use apt-get instead of synaptic?
[06:05] <nalioth> brownie17: personal choice
[06:05] <FR500> brownie17: any ideas on what's wrong?
[06:05] <bur[n] er> brownie17: because you always have a term window open and you'd have to open synaptic ;)
[06:05] <brownie17> nalioth: so do all the radio stations require high bandwidth connections? i only have a 256
[06:05] <FR500> brownie17: there are some with 24
[06:05] <bur[n] er> brownie17: check out streamtuner
[06:06] <benplaut> anyone here gotten quicksilver up and running?
[06:06] <benplaut> err
[06:06] <sn0n> quicksilver?
[06:06] <benplaut> Gnome-Launch-Box
[06:06] <sn0n> lol
[06:06] <nalioth> brownie17: you can go to www.tuner2.com and use vlc to access their streams, it sounds great
[06:06] <brownie17> FR500: i'm only a newbie, you'll have to ask someone else, just it's easier to get help if you put the entire problem in. and if no-one says anything then usually no-one knows
[06:06] <thoreauputic> bimberi: I've used irssi before , but this configuration is new: irssi has advantages for op scripts (I'm learning about this... )
[06:06] <crimsun> walter: your sound chipset is very new; we'll have to dig around a bit for the info
[06:06] <brownie17> nalioth: thanks
[06:06] <nalioth> brownie17: np
[06:06] <mike_> anyone have any experience with using enlightenment?
[06:06] <Vjaz> Hi. I'm wondering, how stable is Breezy these days?
[06:06] <trevor3307> everyone: rss screensaver for linux...are there any?
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, Liferea
[06:07] <trevor3307> thank
[06:07] <FR500> thoreauputic: i get some gpg errors, any clus on what is wrong?
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, there is like 20+
[06:07] <walter> okay thanks for trying anyway
[06:07] <trevor3307> i cant find any...
[06:07] <bimberi> thoreauputic: ah, how to ban as quickly as possible meguesses
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, owl, blam,
[06:07] <kevogod> trevor3307, I saw Tiger's RSS screensaver and was impressed
[06:07] <thoreauputic> FR500: with apt?
[06:07] <brownie17> bur[n] er: where can i see streamtuner?
[06:07] <FR500> thoreauputic: after apt-get update
[06:07] <FR500> yes
[06:07] <trevor3307> no...screensaver
[06:07] <sn0n> kevogod, Tigers ?
[06:07] <kevogod> sn0n, OS X Tiger
[06:07] <AzMoo> err, are there supposed to be any /dev/sdaX devices?
[06:07] <sn0n> ooooo
[06:07] <sn0n> osx
[06:07] <thoreauputic> FR500: errors or warnings?
[06:07] <sn0n> i was like.. eh
[06:07] <trevor3307> not newsreader....screensaver
[06:07] <sn0n> lol
[06:08] <brownie17> nalioth: is vlc a better replacment for rythymbox? becasue i like ryhtmox's media library set-up thing. it is alot like winamp
[06:08] <FR500> thoreauputic: it says gpg error
[06:08] <mik3> where is that jive turkey known as Seveas
[06:08] <drcode> hi all
[06:08] <kevogod> trevor3307, Yea, Tiger has an RSS screensaver
[06:08] <drcode> I Need help
[06:08] <sn0n> news readers shouldnt be screensavers
[06:08] <trevor3307> why not?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> FR500: are you using standard repos?
[06:08] <bimberi> mik3: asleep most likely
[06:08] <sn0n> its just silly.. cuz if the screensaver is on.. im not at the computer..
[06:08] <FR500> the errors are on the standard ones
[06:08] <weerobby> is there any fix for winetools I really hate having to use the human theme to use wine tools
[06:08] <trevor3307> this is not my primary comp..
[06:08] <sn0n> and if im at the computer.. i'll be damned if its on the screensaver
[06:08] <drcode> I Have files with "filename.rar " I Want it to be "filename.rar"
[06:08] <kevogod> sn0n, Not necessarily
[06:08] <drcode> any idea?
[06:08] <trevor3307> it sites in the corner
[06:08] <trevor3307> sits*
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> drcode: rename them
[06:08] <Vaske_Car> Still problem with playing online radio
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[06:08] <nalioth> brownie17: tuner2 uses aacplus to stream their music, and (at this time) vlc is the only mainstream player to play it
[06:09] <Vaske_Car> :(
[06:09] <kevogod> sn0n, With OS X and Expose you can click a corner to active the screen saver
[06:09] <drcode> I Have multifiles
[06:09] <sn0n> hmm
[06:09] <drcode> is there some fast idea?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> FR500: odd - any changes to your configuration recently?
[06:09] <brownie17> nalioth: but is VLC good for everything else that rythymbox can do? i'd like to have one program for all my music needs if possible :)
[06:09] <FR500> i changed my sources.list to one i found in the pastebin, with some seveas quotes i think
[06:09] <crimsun> walter: what motherboard is it?
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello again ppl....I really give up
[06:09] <weerobby> kevogod: also in osx you can suffer pitful preformance
[06:09] <nalioth> brownie17: to my knowledge, vlc doestn do playlists
[06:10] <crimsun> (vlc has playlists)
[06:10] <walter> fijitsu siemens D1675
[06:10] <thoreauputic> FR500: did you back up the old one?
[06:10] <walter> wrong spellling proably
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> I need to find the driver for my WAN  which is Broadcom BCM4320
[06:10] <walter> but deffo d1675
[06:10] <FR500> nope
[06:10] <sn0n> brownie17, Totem in 2.12 is awesome for everything
[06:10] <FR500> thoreauputic: but i was getting the same errors
[06:10] <sn0n> brownie17, since its got builtin playlist and about everything else
[06:10] <kevogod> weerobby, I assume you read that one article criticizing OS X's performance on some server task? Have you ever used Tiger?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> FR500: most likely you just made an error in the list
[06:10] <nalioth> brownie17: well crimsun says you're in business. vlc does playlists
[06:11] <drcode> HrdwrBoB, U can help me please
[06:11] <FR500> thoreauputic: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> drcode: unfortunately it's not easy
[06:11] <weerobby> kevogod: first no and second I own a dual g4 733 and a 2ghz single g5 Xserve
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> unless you have LOTS of files, just rename them
[06:11] <thoreauputic> FR500: hmm
[06:12] <nalioth> kevogod: osx does have performance problems in some areas
[06:12] <thoreauputic> FR500: seems strange you would see that with standard repos
[06:12] <kevogod> nalioth, Yes, but not to the extent that is show stopping
[06:12] <FR500> is there a way to reset the keys or clear them or anything alike?
[06:12] <intelikey> !tell intelikey about rar
[06:12] <intelikey> i thought so.
[06:13] <nalioth> intelikey: try /msg ubotu rar next time
[06:13] <thoreauputic> FR500: yes there is - I don't remember it off the top of my head but I think the wiki has something about it
[06:13] <kevogod> nalioth, I would never use OS X for server use
[06:13] <nalioth> kevogod: me neither, i've got ubu on my macs
[06:13] <liberfiasco> !tell libervisco about apt
[06:13] <trevor3307> so no RSS screensavers that anyone knows of?
[06:13] <liberfiasco> !tell liberfiasco about apt
[06:13] <bur[n] er> nope
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows where can I download the drivers for my wireless card?? is a BCM4320
[06:13] <walter> Fujitsu Siemens D1675
[06:13] <intelikey> nalioth was that one line so obtrusive ?
[06:13] <bur[n] er> liberfiasco: you can just msg ubotu ;)
[06:13] <kevogod> If you want a Unix based OS, why choose OS X over FreeBSD?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> trevor3307,  not that i have seen.
[06:14] <FR500> thoreauputic: thanks
[06:14] <Madpilot> !tell Inf3ctedFx about wireless
[06:14] <liberfiasco> bur[n] er, oh thanks :)
[06:14] <liberfiasco> cool is that bot :)
[06:14] <weerobby> kevogod: I find even with a ati 9600 ui to be sluggish and as far as my xserve it used as a netboot station for other macs
[06:14] <nalioth> intelikey: if you are seeking knowledge for yourself, why let everyone else know ?
[06:15] <[Spooky] > hey, i just can choose 640x480 800x600 and 1024x768 in the gui tool, how do i choose like 1600x1200 ?
[06:15] <sn0n> !tell #ubuntu about politics
[06:15] <sn0n> hehehe
[06:15] <crimsun> walter: hmm. sudo modprobe -r snd_azx
[06:15] <sn0n> what kinda eggdrop is ubotu
[06:15] <sn0n> ?
[06:15] <kevogod> weerobby, The experience I have had with G5s and Tiger/10.3.X was good. OS X loaded very quickly on the systems and I did not notice really any sluggishness
[06:16] <crimsun> sn0n: modified blootbot
[06:16] <nalioth> sn0n: /whois the bot
[06:16] <Madpilot> !tell [Spooky]  about fixres
[06:16] <sn0n> oo
[06:16] <brownie17> !polotics
[06:16] <ubotu> Not a clue, brownie17
[06:16] <kevogod> weerobby, The UI even responded quickly
[06:16] <brownie17> !politics
[06:16] <ubotu> brownie17: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> Madpilot:  but this is the funny thing.. I have the CD, everytime I load the driver to ndiswrapper -i BCM4306 it said, Invalid Driver
[06:16] <liberfiasco> haha
[06:16] <kevogod> weerobby, Although on G4s and G3s, I can see the performance problems
[06:16] <weerobby> kevogod: apparently you have not run the same machines using linux
[06:16] <benplaut> w00t! Gnome 2.12 is out :D
[06:16] <weerobby> kevogod: osx is full of bloat almost as bad as windows xp
[06:17] <sn0n> blootbot seems terriably outdated
[06:17] <sn0n> lol
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> on the lspci -a show me the number 4320
[06:17] <brownie17> naloth: can i update my version of gnome? how?
[06:17] <Madpilot> Inf3ctedFx: to be honest, I still run on lots and lots of Cat5 here...
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> with the lscpi -v shoe me the driver 43 something..
[06:17] <crimsun> walter: that should return you to a prompt
[06:17] <crimsun> walter: any luck?
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes.. I believe I'm going to do that =)
[06:18] <kevogod> weerobby, Does Linux boot quicker than Tiger on a G5?
[06:18] <[Spooky] > Madpilot: that page dont work...
[06:18] <sn0n> kevogod, depends on if the linux is loading X or just to a login
[06:18] <weerobby> kevogod: it does on a g
[06:18] <weerobby> g4
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> Cannot join #ubuntu-es (You are banned). <-- why showed me I'm banned when I never went there b4?
[06:19] <sn0n> whats -es ?
[06:19] <kevogod> sn0n, Well, let's be fair here
[06:19] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: got a dynamic or static IP adress?
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> es = spanish
[06:19] <sn0n> oo
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a dynamic
[06:19] <thoreauputic> kevogod: since I haven't needed to reboot in 76 days, seems irrelevant ;)
[06:19] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: turn off yuor modem, turn it back on, then try again
[06:20] <kevogod> thoreauputic, Since the majority of people shutdown their computers at night, it certainly does seem relevant
[06:20] <walter> it did, no output
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the problem... I'm stealing signal from my neighbor lol
[06:20] <[Spooky] > is www.ubuntulinux.org down ?
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> wireless singnal xD
[06:20] <thoreauputic> kevogod: I was just making a light hearted comment, really
[06:20] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: although EXTREMELY unlikely, it is possible that someone got banned using the IP that your ISP randomnly gave you
[06:20] <intelikey> Inf3ctedFx it may be your ip that is baned and not your nick.
[06:20] <No1Viking> [Spooky] : No, it's up
[06:20] <Madpilot> [Spooky] : not for me..
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, thats the wired thing
[06:21] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: hahah :) nice job. he know? can't help you then. that probably wasn't the problem anyway. is he spanish? did he try to go there?
[06:21] <[Spooky] > strange i cant get in...
[06:21] <ells> tritium: hey what is up
[06:21] <Madpilot> [Spooky] : try www.ubuntu.com or one of the other URLs?
[06:21] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: your isp may be banned from -es
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> no, actually I just install this NIC wireless and I track like 5 diferent signals lol  those r insecure wireless signal
[06:21] <odat> hello everyone
[06:22] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: ok. gtg
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> I migh need to talk to him and say: Hey dude power circle ur modem  lol
[06:25] <[Spooky] > all other webpages load, but not any ubuntu... strange...
[06:25] <odat> anyone able to help me get my DRI working?
[06:25] <aircooledmadness> hey
[06:27] <walter> crimsun, Where do i go from here
[06:27] <kalias> nickrud: Hi!  How is life?
[06:27] <crimsun> walter: did you unload snd_azx?
[06:28] <walter> no
[06:28] <walter> or os that what the -r does?
[06:28] <kalias> I was wondering if someone help me with some serial port trouble?
[06:28] <intelikey> odat "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   is about as good a place to start as i know of.
[06:29] <odat> intelikey: just went through that and its disabled
[06:29] <odat> :(
[06:29] <msfrank> odat: what card do you have?
[06:30] <crimsun> walter: that's what the -r does
[06:30] <odat> msfrank: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[06:30] <walter> crabstic,  yes then i did
[06:30] <walter> my mistake
[06:30] <nfinitep1astik> hello gentlepeople
[06:31] <tritium> good night, amigos
[06:31] <nfinitep1astik> i've recently installed hoary on an ibook and just needed help configuring ALSA to work
[06:31] <crimsun> 'night
[06:31] <msfrank> odat : DRI requires support in the kernel, and i don't know if ubuntu ships with the savage kernel driver enabled..
[06:31] <brownie17> nalioth: hey umm. i have a file that gas a .sh.bin extension, and it is an install for a program... what do i need to do to it to make ti run?
[06:31] <msfrank> odat: i'll check tho
[06:31] <intelikey> good howdy do nfinitep1astik
[06:31] <nalioth> brownie17: run it  ./filename.sh.bin
[06:31] <odat> i'm just assuming that is why my screen redraws are so slow
[06:32] <brownie17> !tell nfiniteplastik about alsa
[06:32] <kalias> Newbie question:  What does "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty" mean?  I am trying to send something out a serial port.
[06:32] <nfinitep1astik> intelikey: thanks.....just trying to get stuff running ^.^
[06:32] <msfrank> odat: DRI will not help (at the moment) with 2d acceleration
[06:32] <brownie17> nalioth: just gives me some error about it not existing
[06:32] <intelikey> nfinitep1astik usually running alsamixer and using M to un mute it will fix that.  but if you problem is bigger than that say on.
[06:33] <nalioth> brownie17: type chmod u+x filename.sh.bin
[06:33] <msfrank> odat: do you mean monitor flickering, like your refresh rate is too low?
[06:33] <brownie17> nalioth: it says command not found, what willthat chomd thing do
[06:33] <odat> msfrank: when switching applications and / or anything that requires screen redraws its painful
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> .....
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> i must be tired
[06:33] <brownie17> nalioth: didn't give me an error, but didnt appear to do anything either
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> i forgot to switch the mixer
[06:33] <nalioth> brownie17: it said 'not found' b/c your .bin was told to be an executable. the chmod command will tell it to act so
[06:34] <nalioth> brownie17: now run ./filename.sh.bin
[06:34] <brownie17> still says command not found
[06:34] <brownie17> nalioth: actually i think i have it worked out
[06:35] <brownie17> nalioth: yeah it's installing
[06:35] <msfrank> odat: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and tell me what video driver you are using
[06:36] <ksmurf> is there anyway to save favorite channels in xchat?
[06:36] <Jerimiah40> Hello everybody
[06:36] <Jerimiah40> Is there somebody here who could tell me the approximate system requirements for Ubuntu?
[06:37] <nfinitep1astik> Jerimiah40: a toaster with 4 slots
[06:37] <nalioth> Jerimiah40: what were  you thinking of puttin it on?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: you can set them to autojoin in the server dialogue
[06:37] <Jerimiah40> Its a Pentium-3 Processor, with 128 megabytes of ram
[06:37] <weerobby> sorry back had to check on a win2k server I am setting up
[06:37] <Madpilot> nfinitep1astik: but can you get OK performance from a 2-slot toaster? ;)
[06:38] <nalioth> Jerimiah40: you'll be fine
[06:38] <Jerimiah40> Okay, thank you
[06:38] <weerobby> More ram would help though
[06:38] <nfinitep1astik> Madpilot: sure, im sure you can overclock the heating coils
[06:38] <nalioth> Madpilot: better with the bagel-width 2-slot jobs
[06:38] <Vaske_Car> Is Linux based CorelDraw FREE or not?
[06:38] <whyameye> Is a Pentium II still fine with ubuntu?
[06:38] <ksmurf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24890 Jerimiah
[06:38] <nalioth> whyameye: yes it is
[06:38] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, there's CorelDRAW for linux?!!?!?
[06:38] <weerobby> whyameye: I put it on a old pentium pro 233 so it should be fine
[06:39] <thoreauputic> just be sure your taoster has a good fan...
[06:39] <Vaske_Car> Isnt it?
[06:39] <benplaut> a really old one
[06:39] <whyameye> ...and I'm assuming it will run faster than Windows OSes on these older machines?
[06:39] <odat> msfrank: savage  driver
[06:39] <planetcall> hello peeps
[06:39] <nalioth> whyameye: yes, usually
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. is it possible to make a file with its name - with spaces at the end? 'foo    '
[06:39] <weerobby> Vaske_Car: I belive at one point they gave it out for free bu I dont know about now
[06:39] <cafuego_> whyameye: It will as long as you either havs 256MB+ of ram or (if less) run xfce or *box.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> someone is asking how to remove said spaces...  :P or hes confused about somthing else.
[06:39] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i've heard of it, but never found it... i think v6 or something might have come for linux, too
[06:39] <planetcall> where there is Debian then why ubuntu ?
[06:40] <msfrank> odat: hrm..i thought maybe you were using the old VGA driver or something..
[06:40] <brownie17> nalioth: i am REALLY beginning to understand why people say you need nvidia to play games on linux, becasue of the drivers!!!! :( :(
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> What is a Linux alternative for Corel?
[06:40] <cafuego_> planetcall: Why not?
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: sure, you can always mv it
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: it needs to be properly escaped from the shell, of course
[06:40] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: for vector drawing, Inkscape
[06:40] <planetcall> since it is based on debian then why shouldnt one choose debian instead of ubuntu ?
[06:40] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, in terms of vectors?
[06:40] <whyameye> cafuego_, what is xfce and *box?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> crimsun,  but he has 200 of them . :p
[06:40] <Jerimiah40> Thank you everybody for your help :)
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> yes yes vectors
[06:40] <weerobby> brownie17: Are you an ATI person
[06:40] <planetcall> dont take it otherwise.........asking just coz i had this question in my mind
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: that's what sed is for
[06:40] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, yeah, inkscape
[06:41] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: or perl, if he's into that
[06:41] <cafuego_> whyameye: xfce and *box (fluxbox, blackbox) are desktop environemnts and window managers. Gnome/KDE is probably a bit too much with 64 or 128MB ram.
[06:41] <benplaut> but, as you can imagine, any interface on earth pales to CorelDraw :)
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> crimsun,  lol.. i think he barely understands bash or english. :P
[06:41] <whyameye> cafuego_, and you can install ubuntu with xfce or *box instead of Gnome?
[06:41] <crimsun> walter: still here?
[06:41] <cafuego_> whyameye: Yep, just begin with a 'server' install, then add what you need.
[06:41] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, found it... v9 had a linux edition
[06:41] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: GIMP is just to edit pictures right?
[06:42] <benplaut> yeah
[06:42] <benplaut> same as photopaint
[06:42] <weerobby> whyamye you end up with gnome but it wont take very long to get xfce installed on it
[06:42] <planetcall> ?
[06:42] <Vaske_Car> benapult: Corel v(?
[06:42] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: gimp is trying to equal photoshop
[06:42] <odat> msfrank: yea i'm not sure what to do
[06:42] <cafuego_> planetcall: Why not try both and see if there is a difference?
[06:42] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, something messed up on that end... nine...
[06:42] <walter> crimsun, I am
[06:42] <brownie17> weerobby: yes atm, but i want to change now ;(
[06:43] <thoreauputic> planetcall: well, ubuntu tends to be easier to set up and releases every 6 months
[06:43] <msfrank> odat: are your computers specs recent?  ubuntu/GNOME can be fairly resource intensive
[06:43] <weerobby> brownie17: what ati card
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> planetcall, cause Ubuntu has support you can buy...
[06:43] <Vaske_Car> Corel v9 is available for free, linux edition?
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> and is easier
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> very easy
[06:43] <brownie17> weerobby: the radeonVE/7000
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> oh, yea and stays newer
[06:43] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i don't think free... but it exists
[06:43] <planetcall> k got it
[06:43] <weerobby> brownie17: blah....  I have not had really any gaming problems with linux and radeon 9600 XT
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> weerobby, wow
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> good
[06:44] <funkyelf> whats up guys.  I'm considering installing ubuntu for a MythTV box I want to build.  I have a buddy I work with that just installed ubuntu and was complaining that its nedit was version 5.4 when 5.5 has been out for a long time.  If one were to install nedit 5.5 manually would it break stuff with synaptic?
[06:44] <brownie17> weerobby: that's becasue ATI make drivers for radeon 8000 series and higher
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> inkscape does not look bad :)  just need a bit of time...
[06:44] <kalias> How are com ports labeled in unix land?  Are they ttys0 and ttys1?
[06:44] <cafuego_> kalias: yes
[06:44] <brownie17> weerobby: but i have to use the standard ubuntu one
[06:44] <planetcall> since i havent used debian may i ask what is the difference between debian and ubuntu. Please list only a few
[06:44] <cafuego_> kalias: Well, capital S
[06:44] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, and no, there isn't a layer/object panel :(
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> Vaske_Car, yes.. inkscape is nice
[06:44] <weerobby> there are some features that  I dont have access too like the ati overdrive functions like in windows but it works fine
[06:44] <nfinitep1astik> anyone know if ubuntu automatically supports wireless hardware for ibooks?
[06:44] <cafuego_> planetcall: Ubuntu is ease-of-use-on-desktop focused.
[06:45] <planetcall> i have recently got 20 free ubuntu CDs and have distributed 19 of them
[06:45] <odat> msfrank: i'm running a 1.7 ghz celeron with 256 megs of ram
[06:45] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: airport extreme?
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> planetcall, why not try debian and see whats the difference ?
[06:45] <weerobby> I right now about 50/50 with Nvidia and ATI cards and really can not put one ahead of another
[06:45] <adoyretsamon> planetcall, then why that question?
[06:45] <thoreauputic> planetcall: not a lot really - try the live CD to experiment
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> weerobby, nvidia
[06:45] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: broadcom, actually
[06:45] <{GuNNeR}> could someone help me, when I use my wireless to log on to my personal wep encrypted router, I have no problem at all, but for some reason when I'm at my university, I cannot get on their non wep encrypted "any" server
[06:45] <{GuNNeR}> any ideas why?
[06:45] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: Yeah, not supported. (at all)
[06:45] <brownie17> weerobby: that is of course, if you have the money to buy a good one! :)
[06:45] <weerobby> planetcall: I have 580 on there way which will all be used up if they arrive by saturday
[06:45] <msfrank> odat: that sounds reasonable.. i'm baffled :(
[06:46] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: thanks....i'll have to use super generic drivers
[06:46] <crimsun> walter: please, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> Inkscape is similar to Xara
[06:46] <brownie17> weerobby: man you are serious about distributing!!!
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, you need to use something like whereami script
[06:46] <weerobby> Brownie I find it best to buy video cards off of friends who by a new card every 8 months
[06:46] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: The aurport express is just not supported (at all, in any way) under Linux.
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, works very cool, but you need to configure it
[06:46] <weerobby> brownie17: no it is a software freedom day event
[06:46] <walter> done
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, esp if you move from network to network
[06:46] <brownie17> weerobby: yeah thats quite a good idea, oh ok
[06:46] <weerobby> they are for the whole tampa bay area
[06:46] <funkyelf> one Ubuntu is installed, are you for all intensive purposes running a debian box?...could you follow any debian how-to's without problem or is Ubuntu very customized?
[06:47] <kalias> cafuego_:That is strange.  I am trying to direct a file out a serial port and it comes back with "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty"
[06:47] <walter> how do you runa gz.sh file
[06:47] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[06:47] <ksmurf> test
[06:47] <cafuego_> kalias: Driver not loaded?
[06:47] <planetcall> i am on dialup and they dont provide free debian cd :P. ;)   But my little experience with live cd does suggest ubuntu could be better choice but personally i  am using FEDORA as i am much familiar with RedHat commands and usage
[06:47] <weerobby> brownie17:  i have a friend that updates his card every year and I get his old one for say 70 dollars when it still selling on stores for close to 200 while he buying 300 dollar cards
[06:47] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: but i wasn't referring to airport extreme, just the onboard wireless....or is it the same?
[06:48] <kalias> cafuego_: That is a good question.  I don't know how to tell.
[06:48] <thoreauputic> planetcall: use what works for you then
[06:48] <planetcall> i will definitely try a switch over for timebeing to ubuntu for the sake of the good people who sent me free cds
[06:48] <crimsun> walter: what happens with that modprobe command?
[06:48] <brownie17> weerobby: lucky bastard!
[06:48] <planetcall> and may be if i find ease with it......i will stick
[06:49] <walter> no output
[06:49] <planetcall> anyways thank guys
[06:49] <weerobby> nfinitep1astik: airport extreme can reffer to the airport card or the airport access point  but either way it describes apples 802.11G products
[06:49] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: That is what the on-board wireless is.
[06:49] <nfinitep1astik> weerobby: thanks
[06:49] <silverton> Is there an easy way to add more resolutions to xorg.conf?
[06:49] <crimsun> walter: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:49] <cafuego_> weerobby: the access point is an "airport express".
[06:49] <odat> msfrank: would checking out the xorg.conf file help?
[06:49] <weerobby> cafuego_: your right
[06:50] <thoreauputic> !tell silverton about fixres
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> nalioth: thanks!
[06:50] <ksmurf> thoreauputic that worked like a charm .... Thanks
[06:50] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: np
[06:50] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: Broadcom aren't supporting Linux. x86 losers could use ndiswrapepr and the windows drivers, but there is no such beast for ppc.
[06:50] <walter> l@wox:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:50] <walter> --- no soundcards ---
[06:50] <walter> l@wox:~$
[06:50] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: yw :)
[06:50] <crimsun> walter: ok, then your card simply isn't supported yet
[06:50] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: on an iBook, your only alternatively would be a supported USB wifi dongle.
[06:51] <cafuego_> s/alternatively/alternative/
[06:51] <kalias> cafuego_: I typed "ps - a" and it came back with 8312 pts/0 00:00:00 ps.  Is this good?
[06:51] <crimsun> walter: I'll dig through the source, but I'm not optimistic
[06:51] <walter> okay thanks crimsun for the time you put in
[06:51] <cafuego_> kalias: /dev/pts/0 is where you're logged in./
[06:51] <brownie17> GTG EVERYONE
[06:51] <brownie17> oops, sorry about caps
[06:52] <msfrank> odat: try reading through /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  its a chore, but you might find something in there
[06:52] <weerobby> cafuego_: i thought linuxant worked with ppc linux and that uses win32 drivers
[06:52] <msfrank> odat: like a misconfiguration or something
[06:53] <professor> Whats the command to report current system type (i386, 686, etc)?
[06:53] <nalioth> professor: uname -a
[06:53] <cafuego_> weerobby: a ppc chip cannot execute w32 binaries (without an additional emulation layer).
[06:53] <thoreauputic> professor: uname -m
[06:53] <professor> thoreauputic, thx
[06:53] <thoreauputic> uname -a reports more
[06:53] <professor> nalioth, thx
[06:53] <kalias> cafuego_: okay that was a silly question :(  Sorry.
[06:54] <ksmurf> Anyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?
[06:54] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: check this out: http://www.sodipodi.com/screenshots/new/sodipodi-0.32.jpg
[06:54] <benplaut> yah, sodipodi
[06:54] <crimsun> walter: ok, last try. We're going to need alsa-driver 1.0.10rc1
[06:55] <benplaut> looks OK, but really confusing
[06:55] <erik_> Good people of Ubuntu, I need your help.  Whenever I run any SDL app, X-Windows dies instantly (and restarts).  Anyone seen this before?
[06:55] <cafuego_> Coz transparency is the shit, minus the 'the'.
[06:55] <cafuego_> erik_: Just for reference: "X" or "The X WIndow System"
[06:55] <cafuego_> Not "X-Windows"
[06:55] <walter> okay
[06:56] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, and not in active dev, unfortunately :(
[06:56] <erik_> Okay.  Well, whatever it is that KDE and Gnome runs on -- dies instantly! :)
[06:56] <silverton> do I need to restart after installing "linux-restricted-modules" ?
[06:56] <crimsun> walter: you need to apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[06:57] <deFrysk> silverton, nope afaIk
[06:57] <silverton> okay, thanks
[06:57] <crimsun> walter: then download ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz2
[06:59] <jcd1006> is there a way to make gaim not be in military time?
[06:59] <walter> finnished downloading
[06:59] <kalias> cafuego_: How do I tell what the com ports are mapped to and if the drivers are running?
[06:59] <crimsun> walter: did you install the other two packages?
[06:59] <erik_> Strangely, I get the same behavior (X dying) on both my PPC and x86 machine -- so I just wanted to know if others had run into this...
[07:00] <nalioth> jcd1006: in your preferences, you can make the time say anything you like
[07:00] <nalioth> jcd1006: system > preferences
[07:00] <walter> was that part of the long command from eralier?
[07:00] <Madpilot> why do Americans always seem to refer to 24-hour time as "military time"? ... just curious...
[07:00] <crimsun> walter: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[07:01] <crimsun> Madpilot: because "only" the military uses it
[07:01] <cafuego_> Madpilot: Because they're retarded.
[07:01] <erik_> Madpilot: The only thing in the US to use it is military -- and flight schedules.
[07:01] <crimsun> (not quite, but it's the way people are conditioned)
[07:01] <ramah> most hospitals and restaurants use it also
[07:01] <walter> ya i done that
[07:01] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: what about this one: http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/screenshots.html
[07:01] <cafuego_> kalias: 'dmesg' should show you if the drivers are loaded (and what the ports are).
[07:01] <erik_> never seen a restaurant use it... hospitals I beleive.
[07:01] <crimsun> ramah: quite a few areas use it, but most people are blind to it
[07:01] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, also not in active dev
[07:01] <walter> I have the latest version
[07:02] <ramah> ic
[07:02] <hyphenated> Madpilot: I'd prefer to know why they call it the world series, when they don't invite anybody else
[07:02] <hyphenated> (baseball)
[07:02] <crimsun> walter: tar xfj alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz2
[07:02] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: so what do you prefer for Corel replacement?
[07:02] <cafuego_> Madpilot: We are able to call 20:00 "eight o' clock", as opposed to twenty-houndred-hours!!!
[07:02] <ramah> well they gota promote it somehow
[07:02] <RedGhost> http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/218/takebacktheweb1fd6qr.jpg
[07:02] <ramah> no one watches baseball anymore anymore
[07:03] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, inkscape, although it's kinda limited
[07:03] <Vaske_Car> :)
[07:03] <Madpilot> hyphenated: blame the New York World (newspaper) for the "World" Series... ;)
[07:03] <benplaut> i sorta stopped doing vectors when i switched, unfortunately
[07:03] <cafuego_> Madpilot: the altter is "military time" and the former "24h time".
[07:03] <Kazuhiro> hi all
[07:04] <ramah> hi
[07:04] <[Spooky] > anyone with a link for making a partition ?
[07:04] <Kazuhiro> Any one running 5.10 and could tell me what version of ruby is installed
[07:04] <erik_> So I'm the only one here to have SDL kill X?
[07:04] <cafuego_> [Spooky] : 'fdisk'
[07:04] <cafuego_> !info ruby breezy
[07:04] <ubotu> ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[07:04] <walter> I dont seem to have that I have a .runfile
[07:04] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: where did you find that sodipodi is not in active developement?
[07:04] <kalias> cafuego_: Okay, I see no reference in there to tty.  Does this mean the drivers are not loaded?
[07:04] <tga> inkscape?
[07:04] <Madpilot> cafuego_: sure - except that civilian pilots use "twenty-hundred-hours" as well... ah well, just one of those oddities...
[07:04] <benplaut> last time i looked, a few months ago
[07:05] <cafuego_> kalias: indeed. I'm fairly sure 'modprobe serial' ought to load 'em.
[07:05] <Kazuhiro> cafuego_, Thanks for that
[07:05] <crimsun> walter: afterward, cd alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1 && nano pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c
[07:05] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, last release in 2004 (can't tell what month)
[07:05] <kalias> cafuego_: Bad news. Module serial not found.
[07:05] <walter> crimsun,  the file i downloaded was a.runfile
[07:06] <Vaske_Car> roger... it need time .. maybe one day :)
[07:06] <crimsun> walter: replace the line #include <linux/module.h> with  #include   <sound/driver.h>
[07:06] <cafuego_> Madpilot: Yes, but in piloting you need to make SURE you don't mess up. Like "Eight Papa Mike"
[07:06] <cafuego_> kalias: woo!
[07:06] <crimsun> walter: no, you want a tar.bz2. See the URL I pasted above.
[07:06] <Kazuhiro> !info gnome breezy
[07:06] <ubotu> gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[07:06] <kalias> cafuego_: Hmmm..that does not sound good :(
[07:07] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: no shadow option in Inscape?
[07:07] <walter> my mistake im downloading the right one now and i will extraxt it then cd into that dir
[07:08] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i don't think so...
[07:08] <benplaut> CorelDraw 11 is supposed to be emulatable, i've never gotten it to work
[07:08] <bur[n] er_> anyone else notice that breezy doesn't have a "run" option from teh menus??
[07:09] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: i'd heard it was going to be removed...
[07:09] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, use alt-f
[07:09] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, use alt-f2
[07:09] <Myrtti> mornin all
[07:09] <erik_> morning?  where are you? (myrtti)
[07:10] <deFrysk> also run option is in 'add to panel' now
[07:10] <Myrtti> oh mama what piccies
[07:10] <Myrtti> hot love
[07:10] <Myrtti> erm
[07:10] <Myrtti> erik_: Finland
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: is the "rose" irssi theme yours?
[07:11] <walter> one sec crimsun
[07:11] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: yes
[07:11] <Myrtti> tho I've updated it
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: aha!
[07:11] <Myrtti> the one in the web has bugs with hilight
[07:11] <erik_> myrtti: think I'm on the other side of the world -- Hawaii
[07:11] <nalioth> Myrtti: irssi themes?
[07:11] <Myrtti> nalioth: yes
[07:12] <Myrtti> and now, something completely different. http://www2.xfreehosting.com/teen/dapaura/nerd/
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: oh - any url for the fixed version?
[07:12] <omp342> do you guys know any note-taking applications that will sit in the taskbar and remind me to read the notes?
[07:12] <Myrtti> none, but I can put it on my web if you wanna
[07:12] <omp342> i seriously need a program like this
[07:12] <Myrtti> omp342: if you keep an todo, gtodo and gtodo-applett
[07:12] <Myrtti> if you run gnome
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: if you can - I'll have a play with it :)
[07:13] <omp342> yes i have gnome
[07:13] <Myrtti> you'll find them in synaptic
[07:13] <[Spooky] > fdisk dosnt help mutch...
[07:13] <omp342> okay
[07:13] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: one sec
[07:13] <omp342> thanks a lot
[07:13] <kalias> cafuego_: I checked my installed software and there doesn't appear to be any serial installed.
[07:13] <[Spooky] > anyone with a guide on creating/mounting a partition ?
[07:14] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/roses.theme
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> google has dozens of tutorials on  mounting drives
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: thanks :)
[07:14] <Invader_Zim> How can I get sound to work in 3d games?
[07:14] <jcd1006> is there any code you can use in linux to spam someone in aim?
[07:14] <jcd1006> or track their ip?
[07:15] <hyphenated> Invader_Zim: which game(s)?
[07:15] <Cashel> howdies
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> I have it working in all apps but no sound in tuxracer,kart for example.
[07:15] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: it was made when I still lived in XP-bliss
[07:15] <[Spooky] > Dr_Willis: ok, but i need to create to be able to mount...
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> I have not tried quake yet.
[07:15] <bur[n] er_> deFrysk: thanks for the add to panel tip... i knew about alt+f2, but that's tough when using VNC ;)
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: hah
[07:15] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: so the rose leaves might look a bit funny
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> Missing sdl?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: I'll try it now
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> [Spooky] ,  that made no sence to me.
[07:16] <wjesusaxl> guys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it
[07:16] <nalioth> Myrtti: pardon my ignorance, but what does a theme do in irssi?
[07:16] <kalias> cafuego_:  Maybe I need to install one of the serial module in synaptic?
[07:16] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: colors
[07:16] <Myrtti> nalioth: changes the colouring, perhaps adds a few bit
[07:16] <Myrtti> like my roses.
[07:16] <nalioth> Myrtti: hmmm
[07:16] <Myrtti> It underlines your own text
[07:16] <bur[n] er_> or like my blackasnight ;)
[07:16] <wjesusaxl> is there a way it could recognize the changes....
[07:17] <Myrtti> I like it that way, so I know when I've said something
[07:17] <Myrtti> lemme show you an old screenshot
[07:17] <ksmurf> Anyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?
[07:17] <[Spooky] > Dr_Willis: look at my question then...
[07:18] <Invader_Zim> ok I'm changing sdloss to sdlalsa and sdlesd
[07:18] <omp342> Myrtti: i got both gtodo and gtodo-applet through apt-get, gtodo works fine, but how can i get it to show up in notification area?
[07:18] <crimsun> walter: ping me when you're ready
[07:18] <Myrtti> http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/screenshotit.html
[07:19] <walter> crabstic,  it is currently #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: aha! Nice! The roses look fine here :)
[07:19] <Myrtti> omp342: not in the notification area, I think
[07:19] <wjesusaxl> guys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it
[07:19] <Myrtti> you put gtodo-applet on the panel
[07:19] <omp342> ohh
[07:19] <omp342> :)
[07:19] <Myrtti> that should do the trick, if I'm not mistaken
[07:20] <omp342> yay it worked
[07:20] <omp342> Myrtti: thanks A LOT :)
[07:20] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: cant believe there is no tool that support shadow option...
[07:20] <Myrtti> omp342: np :-)
[07:20] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: thanks.
[07:20] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, like i was saying, it's feature lacking :(
[07:20] <omp342> now i can keep track of schoolwork :)
[07:20] <Myrtti> I have a new one that hasn't been released on t.i.o because the site is waiting for an update
[07:20] <Myrtti> it's green and black and yellow.
[07:21] <Myrtti> based on hukka-theme
[07:21] <RedGhost> is there a plugin to play .wmv with either vlc or totem
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: I might have to tweak the highlighting - my messages disappear on this background - but I like it - thank you!
[07:21] <Invader_Zim> Ok I fixed the sound in sdl .
[07:21] <robotgeek> !codecs
[07:21] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:21] <Madpilot> !tell RedGhost about restricted
[07:21] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: :-)
[07:22] <Myrtti> geez I like this nailpolish
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: a irssi theme?
[07:22] <Myrtti> robotgeek: yes.
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> !streams
[07:22] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: No idea
[07:22] <walter> Crimguy,  i am going to start over sorry
[07:22] <nalioth> thoreauputic: you know what you wrote, anyway
[07:22] <Invader_Zim> anyone with sdl sound issues install libsdl1.2debian-esd
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: i use fear2 myself
[07:22] <walter> crimsun,
[07:22] <Myrtti> robotgeek: I use my own :-)
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: good for you :)
[07:22] <thoreauputic> nalioth: hahah - oh I have a lousy short term memory ;)
[07:22] <Myrtti> hmmm
[07:22] <bob2> No1Viking: I didn't say gftp had SSL support
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> !winamp
[07:22] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: Are you smoking crack?
[07:23] <Myrtti> should I take a new screenshot
[07:23] <Vaske_Car> lol
[07:23] <Myrtti> I think I should
[07:23] <Myrtti> but before that...
[07:23] <chavo> why does the bot always ask for crack?
[07:23] <vividan> Hey guys, I'm having issues with X... it appears I'm stuck in 640x480.  Any willing to help me change that?
[07:23] <benplaut> !xserver
[07:23] <ubotu> benplaut: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:24] <chavo> 640x480 is all anyone should ever need :)
[07:24] <benplaut> !xserver-xorg
[07:24] <ubotu> benplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:24] <Madpilot> !+msg the bot
[07:24] <ubotu> methinks msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword
[07:24] <AzMoo> Does anybody know why aterms transparency would screw up when I resize it, or change which desktop I'm viewing?
[07:24] <chavo> higher resolutions cost extra
[07:24] <benplaut> Madpilot, i know, i know
[07:24] <Invader_Zim> xorgconfig answer the questions.
[07:24] <ramah> this question is kinda silly but my biggest problem is that I can't find the dirs for programs install with the package manager.. is there a place that most installs go?
[07:24] <Invader_Zim> My error sudo xorgconfig
[07:24] <benplaut> vividan, "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal
[07:24] <bob2> ramah: no, there's no single place
[07:25] <vividan> Invader_Zim, chavo, benplaut thanks
[07:25] <bob2> ramah: programs from packages usually go in /usr/bin, tho
[07:25] <ramah> thank you
[07:25] <Madpilot> ramah: if you select an installed packing in Synpatic, right click, chose options, and one of the tabs will show you whre everything went
[07:25] <walter> crabstic,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:25] <Vaske_Car> I still cant make online radio to play :(
[07:25] <chavo> damn, ubotu doesn't have any crack either
[07:25] <Invader_Zim> You might need binary packages I did.
[07:25] <ramah> Madpilot: thanx
[07:25] <walter> crimsun,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:25] <crimsun> walter: ok, that's fine.
[07:25] <crimsun> walter: sudo nano alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c
[07:26] <kalias> if you do modprobe serial and get FATAL: Module serial not found. What doe this mean?
[07:26] <crimsun> walter: thereabout line 14 should be #include <linux/module.h>
[07:26] <oolon> Vaske_Car, what site or app you trying to open it with?
[07:26] <Cashel> ramah, doing a slocate -u one then after the eon it takes to finish doing "locate (part of package" helps me a lot when I'm trying to run down where things are....
[07:26] <Vaske_Car> www.di.fm  there is a list
[07:26] <crimsun> walter: replace that with #include <sound/driver.h>
[07:27] <Vaske_Car> oolon:scrool down
[07:27] <No1Viking> bob2: Well it has
[07:27] <No1Viking> So you were right
[07:27] <Chupacabr> Hi guys, trying to install kubuntu on my bondie blue imac, I keep getting an apic error, could anyone help me out, thanx in advance
[07:27] <ramah> Cashel: Thank you
[07:27] <oolon> which one did you try?
[07:27] <Cashel> np :)
[07:27] <Cashel> ramah, slocate -u  .. once I meant, not one :P
[07:27] <walter> done and saved the file
[07:28] <oolon> Vaske_Car, which one did you try?
[07:28] <Vaske_Car> trance  the first one
[07:28] <Vaske_Car> click on 96k
[07:28] <Chupacabr> is it possible to install kubuntu on such a prehistoric imac anyways, don't know if I'm wasting my time
[07:28] <kalias> cafuego_:  You still there?
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> oolon: i used to play that with SuSE
[07:29] <vividan> benplaut: sudo dpkg reconfigure xerver-org says it needs an action
[07:29] <benplaut> oops
[07:29] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i got a 404 error
[07:29] <crimsun> walter: ok, now: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-isapnp=no --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[07:29] <No1Viking> bob2: Needed openssl and libssl-dev + all depencies. After that I did ./configure --enable-ssl and gftp with SSL worked!  =)
[07:29] <benplaut> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorgt
[07:29] <benplaut> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> see that red square with yellow 96K ???
[07:29] <No1Viking> bob2: dependencies, sorry
[07:29] <nalioth> vividan: you forgot the "-" dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> near Winamp icon
[07:30] <vividan> ahhh, awesome
[07:30] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i see i clicked it and got an error the link might be bad
[07:31] <Vaske_Car> oolon: it starting download here without problem
[07:31] <Vaske_Car> oolon: im using Firefox btw...
[07:31] <walter> it finnsihed
[07:32] <oolon> Vaske_Car, oh ok i was trying to open it with xmms directly
[07:32] <crimsun> walter: after configure finishes, execute: make
[07:32] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i'll dl the pls
[07:32] <Vaske_Car> oolon: it working now... with Rhythmbox
[07:32] <Vaske_Car> oolon: strange
[07:33] <Vaske_Car> oolon: this is direct link to put in the player: http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1003
[07:34] <crimsun> walter: after make completes, make install
[07:34] <crimsun> walter: then you can reboot
[07:34] <oolon> Vaske_Car, it's working in Kaffeine
[07:34] <Vaske_Car> oolon: thats Winamp clone?
[07:35] <Chupacabr> I'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[07:36] <walter> alter: after make completes, make install
[07:36] <walter> crimsun walter: then you can reboot
[07:36] <walter> sorry
[07:36] <walter> there was compiler errors
[07:36] <kalias> exit
[07:36] <crimsun> walter: what sort?
[07:36] <vividan> benplaut:  I'm still stuck at 640x480... I've attempted to modify my xorg.conf by hand.
[07:36] <oolon> Vaske_Car, xine front end i belive
[07:36] <benplaut> i can't really help...
[07:37] <walter> make[4] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.o]  Error 1
[07:37] <walter> make[3] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia/vx]  Error 2
[07:37] <walter> make[2] : *** [/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1/pcmcia]  Error 2
[07:37] <walter> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/l/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1]  Error 2
[07:37] <walter> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386'
[07:37] <walter> make: *** [compile]  Error 2
[07:37] <robotgeek> walter: dont paste in here
[07:37] <bob2> er
[07:37] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[07:37] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:37] <nalioth> walter: do not paste in here
[07:37] <bob2> are you really sure you should be doing that?
[07:37] <walter> ok sorry last time
[07:37] <Vaske_Car> ubotu: Kaffeine is just for KDA?
[07:37] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: okay
[07:37] <Chupacabr> I'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[07:38] <crimsun> walter: you need to disable pcmcia, too, using a ./configure option
[07:38] <robotgeek> damn, compiling vlc is a big pain!
[07:38] <bob2> Chupacabr: no need to repeat, everyone saw your question
[07:38] <walter> ok
[07:38] <bob2> you forgot to mention what version of kubuntu you were using, tho
[07:38] <Chupacabr> sorry, I'm so frustated and sleepy
[07:38] <bob2> nor whether any other distros work
[07:39] <oolon> Vaske_Car, seems you need KDE
[07:39] <Chupacabr> 5.04
[07:39] <Vaske_Car> :(
[07:39] <vividan> Anyone else have an idea why X would use 640x480 when it's config file says nothing about 640x480?
[07:40] <oolon> Vaske_Car, have no fear http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases
[07:40] <bob2> because that's the default that it found
[07:40] <Chupacabr> I've only tried the 5.04 Kubuntu live cd, I'm sick of mac os and would like to try out kubuntu
[07:40] <bob2> presumably you already read the page on the wiki for fixing this
[07:40] <bob2> in which case, file a bug
[07:40] <vividan> the wiki is somewhere on ubuntu.org?
[07:40] <reter> you know how you can connect to a ssh in 'places'
[07:40] <oolon> vividan, is it a live disc running in framebuffer?
[07:40] <nalioth> vividan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <bob2> vividan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <walter> whats the argument to disable pcmcia
[07:41] <crimsun> robotgeek: why are you recompiling vlc?
[07:41] <bob2> vividan: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:41] <Chupacabr> so it could be a file on the disk right
[07:41] <reter> well i am connected to ssh but i dont know how to type in commands. i get like a windows like menu with no prompt
[07:41] <vividan> cool, nope, fresh install of ubuntu (my first ubuntu install, been using linux/debian for years)
[07:41] <bob2> reter: ignore it then and use ssh normally
[07:41] <bob2> Chupacabr: "it"?
[07:42] <Chupacabr> the error that I'm getting could be related to a file on the live cd
[07:42] <reter> reter: but how do i get the prompt command
[07:42] <reter> bob2: but how do i get the prompt command
[07:43] <bob2> reter: I don't know what a "prompt command" is
[07:43] <bob2> Chupacabr: did yo ucheck the the md5sum of the cd?
[07:43] <Chupacabr> I'm a noob so sorry, seen my friend using ubuntu and since I saw the new kubuntu release I thought I'd try it
[07:43] <Vaske_Car> Im very happy with Ubuntu :) found all I need except vector drawing software that have shaddow support :)
[07:44] <Chupacabr> everything seemed fine on the md5sum bob2
[07:44] <reter> bob2: like c:/
[07:44] <bob2> reter: this is not DOS
[07:44] <bob2> Chupacabr: "seemed fine"?
[07:44] <reter> bob2: i know but i am giving an example of what i mean
[07:44] <crimsun> walter: (test-building)
[07:44] <silverton> how do I get firefox to update?
[07:45] <Chupacabr> I compared it to the same file which my friend has on his live cd and it is exact
[07:45] <bob2> reter: so, open gnome-terminal, and run 'ssh user@hostname'
[07:45] <walter> crimsun,  what do i do
[07:45] <silverton> nevermind, I got it
[07:45] <bob2> Chupacabr: what file are you talking about?
[07:45] <karen_> added a 2nd CD drive.  is there something I need to do to make it automount?
[07:45] <bob2> silverton: firefox in hoary is the latest version...
[07:45] <vu> Need help installinjg ubuntu on a laptop with a very old CDROM that cannot boot the iso image I downloaded.
[07:45] <bimberi> reter, connecting through the places menu is like using sftp - you need to use ssh from the terminal
[07:45] <Chupacabr> th2 md5sum on the live cd
[07:45] <karen_> vu - SMB... just a sec
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> ok
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> i had breezy
[07:46] <jcd1006> is there a way to set up ubuntu so that after the computer being idle or so long it will make you reenter the password to do anything on it?
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> or hoary rather
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> and uppdated it to breezy
[07:46] <bob2> jcd1006: sure, tell it to lock the screen
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> how do i get usplash to work ?
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> bob2, :P elo
[07:46] <bob2> jcd1006: system -> preferences -> screensaver
[07:46] <jcd1006> bob2: will like gaim stay connected?
[07:46] <karen_> vu - SMB https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> yes jcd1006
[07:47] <bob2> jcd1006: of course, all it does is lock the screen
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> !usplash
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[07:47] <AzMoo> How can I see what speed my harddrive is running at? It seems to be going very slowly.
[07:47] <bob2> AzMoo: "speed"?
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> hdparm /dev/hdd
[07:47] <Chupacabr> thanks for all the help guys, boy am I glad I checked out the channel
[07:47] <AzMoo> bob2, udma66 100, etc
[07:47] <bob2> CaiN_SA: read mdz's post on the topic
[07:47] <bob2> Chupacabr: wtf
[07:47] <AzMoo> CaiN_SA, cheers
[07:47] <bob2> idiot
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> wheres that bob2  ?
[07:48] <Masterkong> yo
[07:48] <Masterkong> i have a question
[07:48] <vu> karen_,  Lemme check it out thanx ;-)
[07:48] <Madpilot> !tell Masterkong about ask
[07:48] <bob2> CaiN_SA: http://lwn.net/Articles/148200/
[07:49] <AzMoo> hrmm. using_dma is on. Why the hell is my box going so slow? :(
[07:49] <Masterkong> oops wrong button
[07:49] <Masterkong> ok
[07:49] <bob2> glxgears
[07:49] <bob2> is
[07:49] <bob2> not
[07:49] <bob2> a
[07:49] <bob2> benchmark
[07:49] <bob2> at
[07:49] <bob2> all
[07:49] <No1Viking> LOL
[07:49] <Cashel> I know hehe
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > ok
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > bob2
[07:49] <bimberi> l. o. l.
[07:50] <AzMoo> but its cool to say you got 1500 fps ;)
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> thx bob2
[07:50] <bob2> few things annoy me more than people who just put my nick on a line
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> lol
[07:50] <bob2> with nothing else
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> you can benchmark your hdd
[07:50] <crimsun> walter: here's the configure line you need: ./configure --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-isapnp=no --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-pcmcia=kernel
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> with hdparm !!!!!!!!!!1
[07:50] <crimsun> walter: it compiles fine here
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> it has a paramater
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> to do it
[07:50] <bob2> hdparm is also not a benchmarking tool
[07:50] <bob2> bonnie++ is the tool you'd use for that
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> yes
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> but you can test your hdd
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> with hdparm
[07:51] <bob2> not usefully
[07:51] <Cashel> bob2, so if I'm trying to improve opengl performance, what should I do?
[07:51] <bob2> do you know what -tT tests?
[07:51] <CaiN_SA> will get you rough idea
[07:51] <bob2> Cashel: you haven't given nearly enough detail for me to guess
[07:51] <CaiN_SA> there are 2 tests bob2
[07:51] <walter> crabstic, will i just do another make
[07:51] <bob2> CaiN_SA: do you know what either of them do?
[07:51] <Masterkong> i've got my soundcard to play other samples right than 48kHz, wich it didnt do before.. anyway.. i seem to be stuck with som sort of "clicking" in my speakers when i play anything
[07:51] <AzMoo> I seem to have a severe lack of system resources. It's taking about 30 seconds to open firefox, a good 5 seconds to switch between desktops, and the harddrive is going nuts. Any idea how I can speed it up, or find what's using everything?
[07:52] <Masterkong> plus the sound i'm playing of course
[07:52] <omp342> hmm
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> tests random read speeds
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: after you rerun that configure, yes
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> and stuff
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> i dont use it
[07:52] <bob2> AzMoo: and the system specs are and the the version of ubuntu is and the dma status is ...
[07:52] <Cashel> I just updated from fglrx_6_8_0-8.14.13 to fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20 in hopes of getting a better fps (1500 seems to slow compared to what others were getting in glxgears) .. at first xorg was having problems finding libgl until I used a dpkg-divert line so it would work.. now the new driver is working as opengl but apps such as glxgears or gl-117 seg fault after a little bit of use... any ideas what my problem might be?
[07:52] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, it doesn't test that
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> then what
[07:52] <bob2> read the manpage
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> if your hdd is f,....
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> you will be able to see
[07:52] <bob2> if you want to test your disk, use bonnie++
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: then, make && make install
[07:52] <omp342> when i test port 6881 in azureus it says okay, but almost all torrents get a connetion refused error when connecting to tracker
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: sorry, need to leave work now
[07:52] <AzMoo> bob2, celeron 2Ghz, 256MB of RAM. Hoary. dma status = on.
[07:53] <bob2> Cashel: the ATI drivers in ubuntu didn't work at all?
[07:53] <Cashel> bob2, only as 2d
[07:53] <bob2> Cashel: no, I mean, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> bob2 :  -t     Perform  timings  of device reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.
[07:53] <Invader_Zim> I got flgrx to work on amd based stuff
[07:53] <bob2> the ATI binary drivers
[07:53] <bob2> CaiN_SA: yes, I read the manpage
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> -T     Perform  timings  of  cache reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> thus
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> he will be able
[07:54] <Cashel> those are the ati binary drivers.... let me go read that url I'm not following I guess...
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> to se
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> if dma is on
[07:54] <Madpilot> anyone else noticed that SoundJuicer rips to FLAC far, far quicker than it rips to .ogg?
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> or of
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> or if the hdd is nuked or not
[07:54] <walter> Crimguy I dont hat but im still geting the pcmia comple errors
[07:54] <bob2> CaiN_SA: dude, try to use complete sentences on single lines
[07:54] <deFrysk> Madpilot, flac is less compressed ;)
[07:54] <AzMoo> CaiN_SA, well, it says it's on, and it seems to be working, albeit slowly.
[07:54] <walter> maybeI need to delete the old files first
[07:54] <bob2> Cashel: no, you installed some random binary driver from outside ubuntu
[07:54] <bob2> Cashel: did the binary drivers from ubuntu work or not?
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> sigh bob2
[07:54] <CaiN_SA> AzMoo, hmm
[07:55] <Madpilot> deFrysk: I know, it's just interesting that the compression of .ogg takes so much time
[07:55] <CaiN_SA> AzMoo, isnt there a scanning service or something running
[07:55] <No1Viking> How to uninstall compiled installed software?
[07:55] <bob2> CaiN_SA: yes, I read it, and neither of those tests have anything to do with how a disk performs in real life
[07:55] <walter> crimsun I done hat but im still geting the pcmia comple errors
[07:55] <Masterkong> is there any reason i shouldnt use totem movie player?
[07:55] <AzMoo> 2MB of ram free :\
[07:55] <CaiN_SA> that is reading from the hdd the whole time ?
[07:55] <bob2> No1Viking: read the instructions that came with it
[07:55] <deFrysk> Madpilot, more comprassion takes more power
[07:55] <bob2> No1Viking: it may not be possible
[07:55] <No1Viking> bob2: ok
[07:55] <Masterkong> and where do i find out what codecs i have installed
[07:55] <bob2> make uninstall might work
[07:55] <Invader_Zim> Yah for some reason compressing ogg works better on an opteron then anything else.
[07:55] <Cashel> bob2, ahh I see now they worked more or less the same as 8.14.13
[07:56] <Cashel> think it was only about 80-100 fps difference...
[07:56] <bob2> Cashel: "mor or less"?
[07:56] <AzMoo> CaiN_SA, pretty much everytime I try to do something it spends a few seconds on the harddrive.
[07:56] <Cashel> they worked, not quite as fast but near enough...
[07:56] <bob2> Cashel: if they perform worse than they shou,d file a bug
[07:56] <oolon> Masterkong, they might be in /usr/lib/win32
[07:56] <Madpilot> deFrysk: yeah. of course, in .flac the 1812 Overature is now nearly 200Mb... :P but it ripped in less than 5 minutes!
[07:57] <Invader_Zim> 200mb ouch you might as use wav.
[07:57] <Cashel> So theres nothing besides driver changes I can do to improve performance then?
[07:57] <walter> okay im going I will have to do without sound for awhile
[07:57] <CaiN_SA> AzMoo, ok see i had klamav running, so my hdd also did that, so check if you have any kind of scanning or something running that is making hdd access slow
[07:57] <Adross> is breezy stable enough for normal use now?
[07:57] <bob2> maybe the GoReallyFast option is disabled by default or something
[07:57] <IceDC571> Adross, pretty much :)
[07:57] <Invader_Zim> I can rip an ogg in less time then it take for the file to play.
[07:57] <deFrysk> Madpilot, again more compression , > more time consuming
[07:58] <Invader_Zim> encode
[07:58] <bob2> running a virus scanner across your hard disk is utterly pointless
[07:58] <bob2> don't even bother
[07:58] <Hajuu> Hey :) Anyone know how to configure firestarter to allow GAIM access to the internet?
[07:58] <FR500> what would you use as a clamav scheduled scan?
[07:58] <FR500> home folders?
[07:58] <Adross> IceDC571: you sure? and are there any problems with backports?
[07:58] <bob2> holy god
[07:58] <bob2> someone actually made "klamav"
[07:58] <recurs|ve> i need to mount a folder on my freebsd box on my laptop, how do I do this?
[07:58] <CaiN_SA> Adross, i run breezy
[07:58] <IceDC571> well last time i was on it which was a few days back, it was completely stable and the repositories were well synced
[07:58] <CaiN_SA> on other pc and it works like a charm
[07:58] <IceDC571> but yeah, ask people around
[07:58] <bob2> recurs|ve: how do you plan to share it?
[07:59] <Madpilot> Invader_Zim: nah, I've got a big drive with nothing else one it, it might as well fill up with music!
[07:59] <Invader_Zim> Heck it's fast even on a sempron 3400
[07:59] <IceDC571> Colony 4 should be a HUGE improvement from the previous releases
[07:59] <FR500> bob2: not bad idea klamav, good to know what clamav is doing
[07:59] <Adross> CaiN_SA: did you use backports before upgrading though?
[07:59] <IceDC571> Invader_Zim, sempron 3400?? i didnt know it went up that high
[07:59] <Invader_Zim> But then the  AMD chips have far better busses and cache then the usual intel offering.
[07:59] <Invader_Zim> Yep they do
[07:59] <bob2> FR500: it's stupid, there's no need to scan linux machines for viruses
[07:59] <jcd1006> how can i make firefox let me use extensions, add bookmarks, and install plug ins?
[07:59] <FR500> bob2: not yet
[07:59] <Vaske_Car> It would be nice idea to create an aplication that will be able to backup all settings and data for most used aplications in case of reinstalation...
[07:59] <IceDC571> Invader_Zim, whats the clock speed? im thinking of overclocking my 2500+
[08:00] <holycow> bob2, but that kaspersky fella says you must!!!~
[08:00] <CaiN_SA> Adross, i ran hoary and updated it to breezy
[08:00] <holycow> bob2, how can someone with a name like kasperky be wrong?
[08:00] <Invader_Zim> I recomend the new semprons over the celeron d.
[08:00] <FR500> Vaske_Car: most of the time all you gotta do is backup your home
[08:00] <IceDC571> omg linux is so much more stable than windows when you're overclocking.. well.. until you start compiling
[08:00] <Adross> kk, gonna update
[08:00] <bob2> FR500: how would a virus get onto my machine?
[08:00] <Vaske_Car> FR500 for evolution as well?
[08:00] <Madpilot> holycow: who says?
[08:00] <FR500> Vaske_Car: not sure
[08:00] <Invader_Zim> Get a good fan it should run as a 2800
[08:00] <holycow> FR500, the person that writes a virus that actually spreads indiscriminately on linux machines will be automatically hired by ibm or the like
[08:01] <holycow> to do it you need to bloody know you stuff
[08:01] <Hajuu> Hey :) Anyone know how to configure firestarter to allow GAIM access to the internet?
[08:01] <holycow> Madpilot, kasperky ... lemme get a link, it was a real bs article
[08:01] <FR500> bob2: most of the time there are M$/Linix networks sharing files
[08:01] <bob2> Hajuu: you need to be a lot more specific
[08:01] <IceDC571> haha.. someone could just spread an rm -rf /* virus and get famous for writing nothing
[08:01] <IceDC571> its all about how you distribute it
[08:01] <FR500> bob2: it's good that your linux box can stop the viruses
[08:01] <holycow> FR500, that makes no difference
[08:01] <bob2> FR500: and how would it get to run on my computer?
[08:01] <holycow> FR500, you need to know more about linux before you can say that
[08:01] <chavo> I've got a 2600+ XP-M running at 2.4Ghz with stock fan
[08:02] <levander> Anybody knows how to tell ncftp to connect to an ftp server with passive mode?
[08:02] <FR500> holycow: i'm not saying it would affect the linux box, i say it could help stopping the viruses
[08:02] <IceDC571> chavo, i went down to my local fry's electronics shop and i was pissed because they said "we dont carry anymore athlon xp's! only semprons!"
[08:02] <IceDC571> so i had no choice but to get a sempron
[08:02] <DocAnsi> I use a Sempron
[08:02] <Hajuu> Bob2: How so? For most applications it just has a list of installed applications which you can select to allow access to the internet, gaim does not appear in this list.. I can do it by ports, but I have no idea what ports MSN uses....
[08:02] <chavo> Ah I got mine from newegg.com
[08:02] <Invader_Zim> Well don't worry even a sempron is better then a celleron
[08:02] <Vaske_Car> i have Athlon 1700 for sale
[08:03] <holycow> FR500, there are no known virus definitions
[08:03] <bob2> wow, firestarter is bizaare then
[08:03] <chavo> I replaced an 1800+
[08:03] <Invader_Zim> Celrons are crap I have a few
[08:03] <IceDC571> haha.. any celeron is crap
[08:03] <bob2> Hajuu: because gaim uses about half a dozen network protocols, not all of which actually work through firewalls
[08:03] <Vaske_Car> 1800+ is not the same as 1800
[08:03] <Parisi> Yes they are ;p
[08:03] <holycow> FR500, what that means is no one has successfully released one in the wild, can it help? depends because the exploit would need to be pretty good
[08:03] <Juhaz> IceDC571, socket-a sempron basically _is_ athlon xp
[08:03] <chavo> have a celeron 2Ghz in my laptop and the 1800+ at 1.5Ghz smoked it
[08:03] <holycow> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/5997/1/  <-- claims linux will become a target soon
[08:03] <IceDC571> Juhaz, well.. as for as OC'ing goes, how is the sempron?
[08:03] <FR500> holycow: isn't the idea behind clamav that? for example scanning mail so it wont reach the users
[08:04] <AzMoo> err, is there supposed to be 2 gdm processes running?
[08:04] <FR500> holycow: same could be applied to ftp servers
[08:04] <Hajuu> bob2: Right-o. I don't neccisarilly want it to work *through* the firewall.. I wouldn't mind setting up msn's ports so that firestarter ignored them...
[08:04] <holycow> no clamav only checks for windows viruses
[08:04] <Invader_Zim> It's sad when a sempron 1600 beats a celly 2.2
[08:04] <Vaske_Car> anybody running 64Bit Ubuntu?
[08:04] <Juhaz> IceDC571, dunno about that, haven't really been paying any attention to oc'ability of anything for few years
[08:04] <nalioth> the processor talk should migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <holycow> as there are no known linux virus definitions
[08:04] <IceDC571> Invader_Zim, are you serious?!? show me!! :)
[08:04] <bob2> Vaske_Car: if you mean "amd64", do say so
[08:04] <Invader_Zim> I wonder is intel just living on marketing?
[08:04] <Invader_Zim> serious
[08:04] <DocAnsi> holycow: well, there are a few worms for Linux. and, Viruses usually need Root access to spread indiscriminately, so either the user would need to run the infected program as root, or the virus would need to abuse an exploit to elevate UID to root.
[08:04] <Lug> What is a good CAD program for linux?
[08:05] <Invader_Zim> I did have the 1600 oced to 1800+
[08:05] <FR500> holycow: that is what i mean, i never said your linux box can be infected, i know the virii are windows virii
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> I menat ubuntu 64bit version of OS
[08:05] <aberrant> ug...anyone here know how to configure a samba share on ubuntu for windows xp?
[08:05] <holycow> DocAnsi, thats exactly the issue indeed
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> !tell samba
[08:05] <FR500> aberrant: you want to share folders on your box?
[08:05] <Hajuu> Invader_Zim:  My 1700 is running at 2000+ right now.... Uptime of like a week too. heh
[08:05] <holycow> FR500, sorry dude, didn't mean to act like an idiot :) it comes naturally
[08:05] <holycow> hehe
[08:05] <FR500> no prob
[08:05] <FR500> lol
[08:05] <IceDC571> linux users are smart enough to check what they're about to run before they actually run it
[08:05] <aberrant> i want to share from ubunut to windows
[08:05] <holycow> IceDC571, for now anyway
[08:05] <bob2> aberrant: install samba.  configure smb.conf. enjoy.
[08:05] <aberrant> !tell samba
[08:05] <IceDC571> unless you just do as you're told and wget ; sh run.sh
[08:06] <holycow> i can imagine exploits increasing
[08:06] <FR500> aberrant:  it's as easy as System->Shared Folders after insatlling samba
[08:06] <aberrant> FR500, i did
[08:06] <FR500> and?
[08:06] <Invader_Zim> I want a turion based laptop with a mobile radeon.
[08:06] <chavo> well my 2600+ M is running at 2.4Ghz, don't know what that relates to in the naming
[08:06] <holycow> i cannot see exploits becoming as prevalent as on windows
[08:06] <luckyaba> aberrant: is it ntfs or fat32
[08:06] <Hajuu> *sigh* Oh well.
[08:06] <holycow> unless everyone starts using lindows maybe or something like that that runs users as root
[08:06] <Hajuu> Thanks uh. anyway.
[08:06] <Vaske_Car> there is a guide in ubuntu web site for samba with ready smb.conf files
[08:06] <aberrant> the folders are shared..but windows sez the 'network path could not be found'
[08:06] <amy_> hi, I'm wondering if has apt-get dist-upgrade'ed after adding the sources from the unofficial Ubuntu startup guide.  (I'm wondering if there are system stability repercussions)
[08:06] <chavo> my bios reports it as unknow processor
[08:06] <aberrant> its ext3
[08:07] <FR500> IceDC571: the smartness of linux users will decrease at the same rate as it reaches desktops............
[08:07] <Invader_Zim> I'm sick of the usless intel media go slow in the notebook I have.
[08:07] <FR500> lol
[08:07] <IceDC571> well.. the fact that most other directories are restricted to root is one very nice advantage to viruses, you would need the root's password to delete everything
[08:07] <aberrant> i can ping my ubuntu box, but I cant see the shares that are presumably 'shared' on ubunut
[08:07] <FR500> aberrant: can you try to access by ip address?
[08:07] <Invader_Zim> i865 or some crap
[08:08] <bimberi> amy_: you'll probably be ok but you should disable any backports and hoary-extras repositories before doing any more dist-upgrades
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[08:08] <eva-02> where can i find a breezy install cd?
[08:08] <IceDC571> i'm getting an ibook soon, samba servers are compatible with osx out the of box right?
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: did you install firewall?
[08:09] <aberrant> Vaske_Car, thanks...I followed that guide but not luck
[08:09] <aberrant> Vaske_Car,  no firewall
[08:09] <CaiN_SA> eva-02 : ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-4/breezy-install-i386.iso
[08:09] <aberrant> Vaske_Car, firewall is off
[08:09] <eva-02> ty
[08:09] <Invader_Zim> Ok it's an 855M you sure cannot play games on them.
[08:09] <IceDC571> eva-02, remember to use the uk mirror if its too slow for you, thats what i did
[08:09] <Vaske_Car> im using samba as well without problems. You have to configure Windows too to accept netbios not domain...
[08:09] <amy_> bimberi: ah, so it might be bad idea then.  I read something about "apt-pinning".  Would that be a more streamlined solution
[08:10] <amy_> ?
[08:10] <aberrant> Vaske_Car, netbios?  where?
[08:10] <bimberi> amy_: sorry i've only hear about apt-pinning myself, never used it
[08:10] <FR500> aberrant: i pm'd u
[08:10] <FR500> aberrant: did you read?
[08:11] <FR500> Vaske_Car: Windows accepts netbios as default
[08:11] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: do you use samba 'security = user' or 'security = share'?
[08:12] <bimberi> amy_: if there's something from backports or extras that i want i'll enable them to install, then disable (poor man's pinning perhaps :) )
[08:13] <amy_> bimberi: the "http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?AptPinning" document is the one I read.  It doesn't look too difficult to set up.  "Poor man's pinning"  :-)
[08:13] <A-L-P-H-A> is there a breezy iso?
[08:13] <eva-02> [02:09:am]  <CaiN_SA> eva-02 : ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-4/breezy-install-i386.iso
[08:13] <eva-02> :)
[08:13] <bimberi> amy_: thanks, must have a look :)
[08:14] <A-L-P-H-A> eva-02, thanks... [I hope you're not a bot] 
[08:14] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: basically you have to set same workgroup in smb.conf and in Windows clients, disable windows firewalls (third party) and make sure samba is started in Ubuntu
[08:14] <aberrant> Vaske_Car, how do you make sure samba is started in ubuntu?  I thought it was client driven?
[08:14] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: that way you should be able to see it from Windows
[08:14] <amy_> bimberi:  I think that if one substitutes "hoary" for "testing", and "backports, or whatever" for "unstable", then it would work ok.
[08:15] <bimberi> amy_: kk
[08:15] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: im not sure :(   with fedora its "service smb start"
[08:16] <FR500> Vaske_Car: it's sudo /init.d/samba restart
[08:16] <aberrant> Vaske_Car, no worries..thanks for the pointers
[08:16] <aberrant> FR500 ah!
[08:16] <FR500> aberrant: can you check something for me?
[08:16] <FR500> type ls /etc/init.d
[08:16] <aberrant> FR500, yes...shoot
[08:16] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: try this "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[08:16] <aberrant> samba is there
[08:16] <Vaske_Car> or start
[08:16] <FR500> las time i installed samba was a red name, so it was not executable
[08:17] <FR500> dunno why
[08:17] <FR500> so it didnt work at that point
[08:17] <aberrant> starting samba demons [ok] 
[08:17] <No1Viking> !tell samba
[08:17] <robotgeek> FR500: probably it was a dangling symlink or something
[08:17] <aberrant> victory!!
[08:17] <FR500> robotgeek: yes
[08:17] <FR500> aberrant: can you see it now?
[08:17] <aberrant> thanks FR500  and Vaske_Car !
[08:17] <Vaske_Car> aberrant: are you sure that workgroup in smb.conf and workgroup of Windows are the same?
[08:17] <aberrant> the restart did it
[08:18] <Vaske_Car> oh
[08:18] <FR500> aberrant: ensure it's executable so after rebooting it werks
[08:18] <aberrant> strange
[08:18] <aberrant> it is
[08:18] <CaiN_SA> erm
[08:18] <aberrant> i think i know what might have happened
[08:18] <FR500> aberrant: most of the time services need to be restarted after reconfiguring
[08:18] <FR500> aberrant: and most of the guis dont do that i think
[08:18] <aberrant> i had a folder shared and I deleted it..and rebooted...maybe samba choked on start
[08:18] <Vaske_Car> you have to restart samba after each modification.. however it should restart itself for about 60sec... if im not wrong
[08:19] <aberrant> excellent...now I can watch the simpsons :-)
[08:19] <FR500> aberrant: afaik, the shared folder thingy in ubuntu works great, but i have been using the same old smb.conf since my first fc3 install here
[08:19] <Vaske_Car> :)
[08:19] <FR500> so i havent tested it
[08:19] <FR500> i'll do when breezy comes :p
[08:20] <aberrant> there should probably be notes in the wikis on how to check everything in the whole chain of samba...can you ping the host, is samba running, etc
[08:20] <FR500> aberrant: you can always help
[08:20] <FR500> aberrant: you can ammend it
[08:21] <Madpilot> aberrant: did I just hear you volunteering to help with the wiki? ;)
[08:21] <DocAnsi> can we kick the bots?
[08:21] <aberrant> heh..sure...after the simpson ;-)
[08:21] <FR500> Madpilot: good way to scare them right'
[08:21] <FR500> ?
[08:21] <aberrant> i shud give something back...ubuntu is pretty slick...defnutly a convert
[08:21] <FR500> kewl
[08:21] <DocAnsi> someone is operating a botnet and making the clients connect to this channel, and then leave.
[08:22] <aberrant> i have my main box and my powerbook running ubuntu
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> I seted-up samba. vsftpd... last week and hard-drive break before i did backup :(
[08:22] <aberrant> only my home theater is still windonts
[08:22] <Madpilot> FR500: the wiki isn't scary; if you want scary, have a look at the DocTeam's XML stuff... eek!
[08:22] <scanwinder> i installed wine earlier.....and now in opera, the font for "file", "edit" etc has changed to some really messed up one that i cant read properley
[08:22] <scanwinder> any ideas why that would happen?
[08:22] <FR500> Madpilot: i havent seen it, but i think it's much like a forum right?
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> can opera Profile be inported from Windows to Linux (with Wand) ?
[08:22] <aberrant> thanks again Vaske_Car and FR500...gnite
[08:23] <Vaske_Car> cya man
[08:23] <FR500> aberrant: no prob
[08:23] <FR500> lol
[08:23] <Madpilot> FR500: no, the actual docs - like the Ubuntu help docs - are formatted in XML, and they're big, messy docs..
[08:23] <chavo> scanwinder, see if you have -> qtconfig
[08:23] <Invader_Zim> How do I make gnome update new apps in it's menu?
[08:23] <FR500> Madpilot: i asked you, is the wiki something like a Forum?
[08:24] <chavo> Invader_Zim, it should auto update
[08:24] <FR500> Invader_Zim: open a terminal, non root
[08:24] <FR500> and killall gnome-panel
[08:24] <Madpilot> FR500: the wiki is... like a wiki, not much like a forum. check it out, wiki editing isn't that hard
[08:24] <scanwinder> chavo: how do i check that? is it a package?
[08:24] <FR500> ok
[08:24] <chavo> try to run it in a terminal
[08:24] <DocAnsi> a wiki is a bit like a blog
[08:25] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: most of Opera's settings should be usable in both Win & Ubuntu - I moved my opera bookmarks file over from XP to Ubuntu
[08:25] <scanwinder> chavo: it cant find it if i try 2 run it
[08:25] <chavo> ok
[08:25] <FR500> Invader_Zim: did it work? don't do it with sudo btw
[08:25] <DocAnsi> a wikipedia is an encyclopedia in which random users can add information, and then it will be evaluated by a board, and some of the material will be marked as "incomplete" or "junk", and some is marked as "useful".
[08:25] <Vaske_Car> Madpilot: im more interested about WAND
[08:25] <CaiN_SA> can any1 tell me
[08:26] <CCFIEL> hello when i acces this site http://www.entrepreneur.com.ph/board/ ubuntu display garbagge but in xp it works well. what is the reason?
[08:26] <CaiN_SA> how do i get usplash to work ?
[08:26] <CaiN_SA> it tells me no splash found
[08:26] <CCFIEL> Cain_Sa: beter use upower
[08:26] <Invader_Zim> Well I still do not see the games I installed
[08:26] <CCFIEL> its more updated
[08:26] <FR500> Invader_Zim: what games?
[08:26] <amy_> is hoary-security necessary if one is tracking hoary?  For example, both repositories carry the same, updated version of xpdf
[08:26] <Invader_Zim> I just installed abuse
[08:26] <CaiN_SA> there isnt a package called upower
[08:26] <Parisi_zZz> CCFIEL Its the Ubuntu, its the browser itself!
[08:27] <Vaske_Car> Madpilot: did you get free Opera licence few days ago?
[08:27] <Parisi_zZz> CCFIEL Its Firefox
[08:27] <FR500> maybe it doesnt makes icons
[08:27] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: which file does Opera store Wand settings in? it's probably the same across all versions of Opera
[08:27] <CCFIEL> parisi: i know
[08:27] <DocAnsi> CCFIEL use Konqueror
[08:27] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: yup, I did. nice birthday gift to us!
[08:27] <amy_> is hoary-security more for "security updates, and only security updates", which hoary is for "updates for bugs AND security"?
[08:27] <Invader_Zim> Well abuse tuxracer tuxkart gxmane chromium .
[08:27] <CCFIEL> parisi: no its now firefox because im using firexfox in xp
[08:27] <Vaske_Car> Madpilot: its all in folder called Profile in Opera directory
[08:27] <CCFIEL> parisi: no its not firefox because im using firexfox in xp
[08:27] <Vaske_Car> after version 8.00
[08:28] <Parisi_zZz> CCFIEL I get the same garbage under Firefox on XP
[08:28] <Parisi_zZz> CCFIEL But explorer works fine, thus why i assumed that.
[08:28] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: I left XP before Opera 8 came out; not sure what's changed - but check Opera's website, they've got good descriptions of what each file does.
[08:29] <Vaske_Car> Madpilot: i know it, im just not sure if they are comptabile with Linux platform
[08:29] <CCFIEL> parisi: it work in my xp with firefox
[08:29] <CCFIEL> but in linux did not
[08:30] <Parisi_zZz> Strange.
[08:30] <CCFIEL> ok ill try konqueror
[08:30] <Parisi_zZz> Maybe your browser is showing itself as Explorer, but mine isnt.
[08:30] <Parisi_zZz> You would be suprised ;p
[08:30] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: most of the Opera settings files seem to be identical across platforms...
[08:31] <Vaske_Car> roger
[08:31] <Parisi_zZz> nite all
[08:32] <brownie17> nalioth: why when ui tried to ru na games called "barrage' it told me there were no available audio packages?
[08:32] <CCFIEL> parisi: ur right
[08:32] <Vaske_Car> anybody know a link to ubuntu shell small tutorial?
[08:32] <CCFIEL> its a browser issue
[08:33] <amy_> nope, hoary-security is most certainly needed.  If anyone is interested in the whole "pinning" thing, then it should go above hoary
[08:33] <CCFIEL> i tried konqueror its ok
[08:33] <Vaske_Car> !tell shell
[08:33] <nalioth> brownie17: you are having sound issues
[08:33] <aftertaf> Vaske_Car:  yes
[08:33] <Parisi_zZz> CCFIEL tryi changing the settings for your Firefox browser under Linux, i bet that will fix it.
[08:33] <aftertaf> !tell Vaske_Car about cli
[08:33] <brownie17> nalioth: :) obviously: do i need driver?
[08:33] <brownie17> nalioth: i have just been relying on the standard
[08:34] <nalioth> brownie17: i'm not much on sound issues, sorry
[08:34] <CCFIEL> parisi: ok thanks!
[08:34] <aftertaf> Vaske_Car:  the linuxcommand.org site is v good
[08:34] <brownie17> nalioth:
[08:34] <brownie17> ok
[08:34] <robotgeek> nalioth: offtopic, but did u check out the wmv 9 codec under linux/OS X?
[08:34] <aftertaf> brownie17:  if u were on kde, i could advise n arts, but u aint ;)
[08:34] <nalioth>  robotgeek i run ppc, no w32codec will work for me
[08:34] <brownie17> madpilot: i have a sound error, a game told me there were no available audio drivers, what do i do?
[08:34] <robotgeek> nalioth: http://nanocrew.net/?p=129
[08:34] <Vaske_Car> afterafterfat: tx
[08:35] <robotgeek> nalioth: i am on ppc too, that's why i am excited!
[08:35] <brownie17> aftertaf: :) oh well. maybe one day i'll go to KDE of xfce
[08:35] <aftertaf> afterfat ? cheers!!! :p
[08:35] <CaiN_SA> ok
[08:35] <CaiN_SA> usplash
[08:35] <CaiN_SA> is l33t
[08:35] <brownie17> aftertaf: ahhahahaha
[08:35] <aftertaf> :/
[08:35] <Madpilot> brownie17: try "killall esd" before you start the game - and restart esd afterward with just "esd"...
[08:36] <vu> u
[08:36] <brownie17> madpilot: umm... i don't think i am using ESD, i think i replaced it with ALSA????
[08:36] <amy_> There, it works!  I'm going to paste my /etc/apt/preferences in #paste
[08:36] <robotgeek> nalioth: cool, ain't it?
[08:36] <nalioth> robotgeek: i'm readin, gimme a minute
[08:36] <robotgeek> nalioth: ah okay
[08:36] <Madpilot> brownie17: in that case, I have no idea, sorry...
[08:37] <brownie17> madpilot: OOOKKKKK.... i am so confused.... it worked. and i thought i set it to turn off when it wasnt being used
[08:37] <amy_> bimberi: or did you get it working for yourself by now?  :-)
[08:37] <Madpilot> brownie17: I think sound on Linux confuses far, far tech-savvier people that you & I! ;)
[08:39] <Kazuhiro> any one got a quick tip on using ndiswrapper?
[08:40] <omp342> brownie17: gnome is the best, aftertaf doesn't know what he's talking about. :D
[08:40] <bimberi> amy_: no, it's on the todo list :)
[08:41] <Red_Bullet> can i install xfce to my ubuntu
[08:41] <Red_Bullet> ?
[08:41] <Red_Bullet> please help me
[08:41] <robotgeek> nalioth: boom, ran into a bug!
[08:41] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:41] <thoreauputic> !info xfce4
[08:41] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:41] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic,
[08:41] <Red_Bullet> 10x
[08:41] <nalioth> Red_Bullet: yes, give us time to answer
[08:42] <aless>  hi, is there a command in linux to send short messages between
[08:42] <aless> online users?
[08:43] <robotgeek> aless: on the same subnet?
[08:43] <linner> hey ya'll... she's baaa-ack :)
[08:43] <aless> robotgeek: yep
[08:43] <Invader_Zim> whare does the samba browser mount the shares by defualt?
[08:43] <Myrtti> linpopup
[08:43] <Myrtti> :-)
[08:43] <Myrtti> talk or smthn
[08:43] <thoreauputic> *g*
[08:44] <brownie17> omp342: :) poor old aftertaf.
[08:44] <dapimp53> Hey everyone. Quick question. I had a dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu and I had to reinstall windows so now it doesnt ask me which system I want to boot. When I open Partition Magic from my Windows Partition it shows the Ubuntu install. What I want to know is how do I get GRUB to start asking which partition I want to use again?
[08:44] <brownie17> aftertaf: what is so good about KDE anyway?
[08:44] <linner> heheheheh
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB> !windows
[08:44] <ubotu> methinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[08:44] <linner> funny thoreauputic
[08:44] <linner> :)
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB> !boot
[08:44] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:44] <nalioth> Myrtti: doesnt linpopup require samba? isnt there a network commo thing that doesnt require samba?
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB> argh, I can't remember it
[08:44] <linner> hey Myrtti
[08:44] <brownie17> dapimp53: there is aguoide for that on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/userdocumentation
[08:45] <linner> thoreauputic:  can you recommend a good package to install for editing HTML and CSS?
[08:45] <nalioth> dapimp53: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:45] <Myrtti> nalioth: I have no idea what to use instead of linpopup
[08:45] <Myrtti> if YOU do, please tell
[08:45] <nalioth> Myrtti: ok. let me see and i'll let you know
[08:45] <linner> I did a search for HTML in the pkg mgr but so many things come up I don't know what to choose
[08:45] <thoreauputic> linner: if you want wysiwyg, nvu or mozilla composer is about it
[08:45] <Red_Bullet> xfce4 pkaet could'n fount
[08:45] <linner> I currently use Macromedia Homesite and TopStyle on Windoze
[08:45] <Red_Bullet> E: Couldn't find package xfce4
[08:46] <dapimp53> so I need to get back in the Ubuntu partition then?
[08:46] <Madpilot> linner: Bluefish or Screem for HTML - neither is Whizzy, though
[08:46] <Myrtti> I have a backupscript that sends me a message via samba to inform that the compression has succeeded from computer A to computer B and would love to switch it to smthn else
[08:46] <linner> right on...
[08:46] <Red_Bullet> please help me
[08:46] <Myrtti> linner: if it's wysiwyg you're looking for, NVU
[08:46] <linner> when you say whizzy... you mean there is no browser view of what you just coded?
[08:46] <Vaske_Car> good night all
[08:46] <robotgeek> linner: nvu is neat
[08:46] <Red_Bullet> !info BitchX
[08:46] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB
[08:46] <GNULinuxer> how do i change the default background color in gnome ? [the color that shows up when gnome is starting] 
[08:47] <HrdwrBoB> no, bitchx is terrible
[08:47] <Madpilot> linner: Screem has a rough internal preview, not sure about bluefish
[08:47] <linner> NVU... cool... so what's so cool about it?
[08:47] <HrdwrBoB> GNULinuxer: irssi
[08:47] <linner> Mad:  thanks!!  Ok....
[08:47] <Madpilot> linner: but neither are drag-and-drop editors, they're both for HTML coding
[08:47] <GNULinuxer> HrdwrBoB: what ?
[08:47] <Red_Bullet> tell me whick CONSOLE chat program is the best
[08:47] <HrdwrBoB> GNULinuxer: system->administration-> login screen setup
[08:47] <Myrtti> Red_Bullet: irssi
[08:47] <robotgeek> Red_Bullet: irssi
[08:47] <linner> Mad:  That's what I want.  I don't know how to use a drag and drop.  I'm a hand coder... :)
[08:47] <HrdwrBoB> GNULinuxer: irssi is a better IRC client than bitchx
[08:47] <linner> So that works out well.
[08:47] <linner> I like the have control over my pages.
[08:47] <Red_Bullet> how can i download to my ubuntu
[08:48] <robotgeek> linner: i thought it was pretty easy to use. no html/css experience, but worked out fine for me
[08:48] <nalioth> Myrtti: echat or akeni are small network chat appliances
[08:48] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[08:48] <Madpilot> linner: if you're a hand coder, you'll like bluefish & screem. I prefer Screem, but just slightly - they're both good
[08:48] <GNULinuxer> HrdwrBoB: thanks!
[08:48] <linner> Mad:  very nice... thanks Robot...
[08:48] <linner> You guys are super, super helpful!
[08:48] <HrdwrBoB> GNULinuxer: glad to help :)
[08:48] <Red_Bullet> and how can i start irsii
[08:48] <Red_Bullet> ?
[08:48] <Myrtti> Ill try that
[08:48] <linner> That means so much to a newbie such as me :)
[08:49] <nalioth> Red_Bullet: open a terminal and type irssi
[08:49] <scanwinder> how do i mount a FAT partition so that a normal user can access it?
[08:49] <Myrtti> oh my
[08:49] <robotgeek> scanwinder: use pmount
[08:50] <Myrtti> scanwinder: or add it to your fstab
[08:50] <Madpilot> linner: if you start lines with people's full nick, it'll highlight it for us - much easier than if you just use part of a nick - thanks!
[08:50] <linner> weird... I'm trying to install it via synaptic and I'm getting this error:  screem:
[08:50] <linner>  Depends: dbus-1 but it is not going to be installed
[08:50] <linner>  Depends: dbus-glib-1 but it is not going to be installed
[08:51] <robotgeek> linner: don't paste in here!
[08:51] <scanwinder> ok, how do i unmount a device when it says its busy...............im not even using it and it says its busy
[08:51] <linner> Madpilot:  understood
[08:51] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[08:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:51] <Red_Bullet> can i chat in many then 10 tabs alt+1 alt +2 ... alt+0
[08:51] <linner> Robotbot:  oh?  where should I post it?
[08:51] <Red_Bullet> with irssi
[08:51] <Madpilot> linner: you in Hoary or Breezy?
[08:51] <linner> oh okay
[08:51] <linner> i'm sorry
[08:51] <linner> Breezy
[08:51] <robotgeek> linner: tab for nick completion
[08:51] <robotgeek> Red_Bullet: yeah
[08:51] <Myrtti> Red_Bullet: alt+q, alt+w etc
[08:51] <otep> anyone here who have tried xampp?
[08:51] <brownie17> naliorth: are you familiar with wine/
[08:51] <Myrtti> Red_Bullet: you can use /bind to add more
[08:52] <robotgeek> otep: i think i've used it on windows
[08:52] <linner> Robotgeek:  I'm hitting the tab button but nothing happens
[08:52] <scanwinder> how can i force something thats busy 2 unmount?
[08:52] <Madpilot> linner: OK... it installed fine in hoary for me
[08:52] <Myrtti> linner: type Myrt and hit tab
[08:52] <brownie17> scanwinder -f
[08:52] <linner> Myrtti, oh I see
[08:52] <thoreauputic> scanwinder: umount -l
[08:52] <linner> Madpilot, right on
[08:52] <robotgeek> linner: typing robot and then tab completion works
[08:52] <linner> robotgeek, yeah now it's working
[08:52] <robotgeek> linner: :)
[08:52] <linner> i thought i did that before
[08:52] <brownie17> linner: reboot*
[08:52] <linner> so sorry!
[08:52] <linner> brownie17, are you serious?
[08:53] <brownie17> linner :) just being an arsehole
[08:53] <robotgeek> linner: never reboot!!
[08:53] <robotgeek> nalioth: done reading?
[08:53] <linner> robotgeek, That's what I'd heard that it wasn't a matter of rebooting as it is with Windows
[08:53] <brownie17> robotgeek: sorry, my mistake
[08:53] <brownie17> hahah
[08:53] <Myrtti> I forgot what I was doing
[08:53] <onkarshinde> Can I expect a custom Ubuntu CD for HP laptops when breezy is released? Will it contain latest driver (2.9.10) for smartlink modems?
[08:53] <robotgeek> brownie17: gotta snap out of it!
[08:53] <Madpilot> linner: the only system thing you really need to reb**t for is kernel changes
[08:54] <linner> Madpilot, and since I don't know what a kernel change is then I shouldn't have to worry!
[08:54] <scanwinder> im not having much luck with pmount..............i want to mount /dev/sdb1 at /media/sdb1 so a normal user can access it
[08:54] <linner> Linux is so dam*ed smart!
[08:54] <brownie17> nalioth: are you familiar with wine?
[08:55] <hume> i'm trying to use kpilot in ubuntu hedgehog, but kpilot says it cannot fins kpilotdaemon (I'm trying it in xfce4 and kde). is there a packege that contains this daemon that I coulnd have missed?
[08:55] <Myrtti> linner: you might guess what my amount of frustration is when forced to install windows98 on a slow computer
[08:55] <omp342> :P
[08:55] <linner> Myrtti, Oh yes...
[08:55] <brownie17> omp342: heheh
[08:55] <Myrtti> linner: "you need to restart your computer to apply these changes..."
[08:55] <Red_Bullet> oo no i can't download xfce4
[08:55] <Myrtti> GOARARAH
[08:55] <linner> Myrtti, why are you "forced" to install windows 98?
[08:55] <pitti> scanwinder: pmount /dev/sdb1 does exactly that
[08:55] <onkarshinde> Can I expect a custom Ubuntu CD for HP laptops when breezy is released? Will it contain latest driver (2.9.10) for smartlink modems?
[08:56] <robotgeek> Red_Bullet: do u have repositories enabled
[08:56] <Red_Bullet> sudo apt-get install xfce4 package not found
[08:56] <brownie17> onkarshinde: wouldn't bet my bottom dollar on it
[08:56] <robotgeek> !repos
[08:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !tell Red_Bullet about repos
[08:56] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, possibly, talk to HP about that
[08:56] <A-L-P-H-A> onkarshinde, why not just add it in?  I'm sure there's a howto.
[08:56] <omp342> i hated xfce when i tried it
[08:56] <Myrtti> linner: because the computer isn't mine and the people using it aren't ready to switch to the bright side
[08:56] <Red_Bullet> i don't know what is repos
[08:56] <linner> Myrtti, ahhh.... same ole same ole
[08:56] <Myrtti> linner: HER?
[08:56] <robotgeek> linner: a female linux user. welcome :)
[08:56] <Myrtti> you TOO?
[08:56] <linner> why thank you!
[08:56] <linner> Myrtti, you knew that!
[08:57] <linner> myr
[08:57] <nalioth> brownie17: wine doesnt run on PPC, so no, sorry
[08:57] <brownie17> linner: a woman computer geek!!! argh! mind overloading!
[08:57] <Myrtti> nope?
[08:57] <brownie17> nalioth: sorry, ppc?
[08:57] <linner> oops Myrtti:  I told you last night :)
[08:57] <Myrtti> brownie17: newsflash <--
[08:57] <Myrtti> you did?
[08:57] <linner> brownie17, you're too much!
[08:57] <brownie17> myrtti: heck yeah
[08:57] <Red_Bullet> please tell mi how to download xfce4
[08:57] <linner> Myrtti, yeah totally...
[08:57] <Myrtti> /me hugs linner
[08:57] <nalioth> brownie17: i run apple hardware
[08:57] <Myrtti> welcome to the sorority
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: we already did
[08:57] <CaiN_SA> omw
[08:57] <brownie17> linner: hahha, sorry, didn't mean to offend you
[08:57] <robotgeek> brownie17: so do i
[08:57] <CaiN_SA> nurds going nuts over a chick
[08:57] <nalioth> Red_Bullet: use synaptic, and click the search button
[08:57] <CaiN_SA> how lame
[08:57] <brownie17> nalioth: oh ok, stupid mre
[08:57] <Red_Bullet> but i don't know what is repos
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: read ubotu's /msg
[08:57] <linner> brownie17, oh contrare... you're not offending me at all!!! :)
[08:57] <nalioth> !tell Red_Bullet about synaptic
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell Red_Bullet about repos
[08:58] <linner> CaiN_SA, too much!
[08:58] <factotum> well, if you cant run ubuntu on your apple, next best thing would be debian i guess
[08:58] <nalioth> brownie17: there is stupid and there is ignorant. ignorance is a temporary condition
[08:58] <Red_Bullet> oo 10x
[08:58] <marius_> I'm looking for a nice graphical ftp client any tips ?
[08:58] <robotgeek> i think ubuntu runs better than debian :)
[08:58] <onkarshinde> brownie17: Burgundavia: A-L-P-H-A: I have downloaded a custom CD from Ubuntu site. That's why I was expecting a new one to be released with Breezy.
[08:58] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: the msg from ubotu *tells* you where to look
[08:58] <robotgeek> marius_: gftp
[08:58] <linner> Myrtti, have you been a geek most your life too?
[08:58] <Myrtti> marius_: gftp
[08:58] <factotum> not on an apple evidently
[08:58] <Madpilot> marius_: there's gFTP, but I'm not sure it's "nice"...
[08:58] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, Breezy is not yet released, but it is possibly
[08:58] <Myrtti> if running gnome
[08:59] <marius_> hmm running kde (kubuntu)
[08:59] <robotgeek> factotum: maybe not the new ones, the old ones run nice
[08:59] <brownie17> Cain_SA: haha going nuts, hahha , i think i must be the only true excpetion to the people who are good with computers are geeks and have an aversion to women. hahha
[08:59] <factotum> ah
[08:59] <Myrtti> linner: prolly yeh, though I got my first computer when I was 18
[08:59] <linner> brownie17, You crack me up!
[08:59] <Myrtti> that's about...
[08:59] <onkarshinde> Burgundavia: Can any Ubuntu developer answer this question?
[08:59] <CaiN_SA> lol
[08:59] <brownie17> linner: :)
[08:59] <CaiN_SA> im a programmer
[08:59] <robotgeek> factotum: i use a old powerbook, without the need to OS X it
[08:59] <CaiN_SA> and i have a normal gf
[08:59] <linner> Myrtti, I'm 33... and I've loved 'em since my first Commodore 64!
[08:59] <Myrtti> (I'm bad in arithmethics)
[09:00] <robotgeek> linner: my first one was a C64 too!
[09:00] <Myrtti> 8 years ago
[09:00] <brownie17> Cain_SA: haha (CYBER-)Girlfriend! :)
[09:00] <factotum> very nice
[09:00] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, the HP stuff should be merged into general breezy
[09:00] <CaiN_SA> brownie17, nope
[09:00] <linner> robotgeek: cool beans man!
[09:00] <brownie17> Cain_SA: it was only a joke. i beleive you
[09:00] <CaiN_SA> you better
[09:00] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[09:00] <Invader_Zim> I started on an amiga 500
[09:00] <linner> thoreauputic, welcome to nostaglia :)
[09:01] <Myrtti> oh oh linner :-> you know what I found today :-D http://www2.xfreehosting.com/teen/dapaura/nerd SORRY guys ;-)
[09:01] <factotum> i had a TI something or other, anyways now that thats out of the way
[09:01] <thoreauputic> linner: ah but nostalgia just isn't the same any more...
[09:01] <Madpilot> Commodore 64 had some of the coolest games going, bar none!
[09:01] <linner> let me go check it out
[09:01] <Myrtti> *drools* :-P ~~~~~
[09:01] <linner> thoreauputic, well you got me there
[09:01] <Juhaz> 98 isn't too bad on low resources, I've been forced to install W2k (with full office to boot) to P233 w/32M RAM... worst of all, they were public machines at library... might've been some poor souls first contact with computers, who promptly decided to move to something less painful, like tester for torture equipment
[09:01] <Myrtti> hahaha
[09:01] <linner> Myrtti, let me go check it out
[09:01] <linner> one minute
[09:01] <Myrtti> get your soap ready
[09:02] <Invader_Zim> Only 32megs ouch
[09:02] <Invader_Zim> I had quadras with more memory then that.
[09:02] <A-L-P-H-A> Myrtti, I'm blind.
[09:02] <A-L-P-H-A> Myrtti, I'm BLIND.
[09:02] <Myrtti> A-L-P-H-A: LOL. I did warn you
[09:02] <vu> Anybody using firestarter as a GUI to iptables management?
[09:02] <linner> Myrtti, that is way too funny!
[09:02] <Myrtti> didn't I :-D
[09:02] <linner> and not one of them is good lookin' at all!
[09:03] <linner> :)
[09:03] <Myrtti> well, they're relatively good looking
[09:03] <Invader_Zim> So how are you seeing the text output then?
[09:03] <onkarshinde> I am just too eager for the release of Ubuntu 5.10. This will be third consecutive release of same distro I have used.
[09:03] <Myrtti> tho lack some body hair
[09:03] <A-L-P-H-A> Myrtti, you MUST include a disclaimer... fully explaining the content of such medical hazard causing images.
[09:03] <linner> Myrtti, eh'.... I suppose :)
[09:03] <linner> thoreauputic, remember the program the "Oregon Trail"?
[09:03] <nalioth> lovely
[09:03] <fluvvell> I'm still trying to figure out this motherboard, does ACPI control reboot functions now?
[09:04] <linner> I just found it on for my Palm T3... heheheheh
[09:04] <nalioth> more bots
[09:04] <linner> talk about nostalgia!!!
[09:04] <thoreauputic> linner: I have been out of touch with popular culture for too long ;)
[09:04] <fluvvell> I've got a machine that will power down but not reboot, can anyone help?
[09:04] <Madpilot> linner: "Seven Cities of Gold" - coolest game ever (C64...)
[09:04] <linner> thoreauputic, is that right? :)
[09:04] <Red_Bullet> but how can i start repos in kde in kynaptic
[09:04] <Chrustinho> I search a WLAN USB Stick which works out of the box without special tools in Ubuntu. Can anyone give me a tipp?
[09:04] <linner> Madpilot, oh god... I remember that one!!!!
[09:04] <fluvvell> Madpilot: I used to LOVE that game!
[09:04] <Red_Bullet> i couldn't found Synaptic in kde
[09:04] <Red_Bullet> :((
[09:05] <fluvvell> Madpilot: (Atari!)
[09:05] <aftertaf> omp342:  hehe i was working!!!
[09:05] <benplaut> nalioth, the aoQuoJ and iaioeUl?
[09:05] <nalioth> benplaut: yep
[09:05] <aftertaf> kde -vs- gnome, its a matter of preference...
[09:05] <aftertaf> i prefer kde cos since gnome 2.4 ive had nuthin but problems....
[09:06] <linner> fluvvell, Table top Ms. PacMan!  Not the kind in bars, but the little itty bitty one
[09:06] <Red_Bullet> but how can i start repos in kde
[09:06] <fluvvell> linner: he he he
[09:06] <aftertaf> hi Myrtti hi linner :)
[09:06] <Madpilot> Red_Bullet: #kubuntu?
[09:06] <linner> hey aftertaf!
[09:06] <linner> fluvvell, do you remember it?
[09:06] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Have you tried GNOME recently?
[09:06] <fluvvell> linner: I had an atari 800Xl, with pacman and ms pacman,
[09:06] <Myrtti> /me reminds people about #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <aftertaf> nope, might try sometime tho
[09:06] <fluvvell> on cartridge I think!
[09:07] <linner> fluvvell, my mom thought it would blow up the tv... heheheheh I never got to have an atari
[09:07] <linner> :(
[09:07] <hume> anyone successfully running kpilot on ubuntu?
[09:07] <dazvid> while installing mplayer... do I need to use sudo?
[09:07] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  except once, and each time i clicked a folder it opened a new window, NT4 style :/
[09:07] <fluvvell> linner: Kind of sad I gave mine away now
[09:07] <linner> I know!  eBay is listing them for bucoo bucks
[09:08] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Hey, you can set a preference to open it in same folder. Wait for Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10) which contains GNOME 2.12 and you won't be disappointed.
[09:08] <hume> dazvid, you need sudo to install....
[09:08] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:08] <linner> good lord I feel old now
[09:08] <linner> :)
[09:08] <fluffybunny_> i am having real issues viewing PS with Gnome ghostview - so much so, that I have to hold down the power button, because everything is hung. can anyone recommend something else?
[09:08] <fluvvell> linner: cant we get like emulators now?
[09:09] <linner> yeah I think so
[09:09] <linner> I honestly haven't tried
[09:09] <Chrustinho> I search a WLAN USB Stick which works out of the box without special tools in Ubuntu. Can anyone give me a tipp?
[09:09] <robotgeek> fluffybunny_: get evince
[09:09] <linner> I know I did on my windows box... found tempest
[09:09] <fluvvell> Ive heard about them, but .... well too much to do
[09:09] <linner> didn't work so hot though
[09:09] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: Can't you view files with gpdf?
[09:09] <onkarshinde> I mean .ps files
[09:09] <linner> need that spinning joystick
[09:09] <robotgeek> Chrustinho: netgear might work ,not sure
[09:09] <fluvvell> might think about introducing my kids to them one day
[09:09] <fluvvell> I have one of those!!!
[09:09] <linner> you do????
[09:09] <linner> where on earth did you get it?  eBay?
[09:09] <fluvvell> the stick plasticy one?
[09:10] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: i can open the files, but then everything kinda hangs... :(
[09:10] <linner> I think so... kinda hard for this old dog to remember if it was plastic or not
[09:10] <linner> I remember it was silver or black (depending how old the terminal is) and that it was notced
[09:10] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: I think you tried in Ghostview. Try gpdf or xpdf
[09:10] <omp342> aftertaf: :O
[09:10] <fluvvell> the insides were kind of crappy (! silver?)
[09:10] <linner> fluvvell, no it's not a stick necessarily... it was a knob
[09:10] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: ok... will give it a try, thanks
[09:11] <fluvvell> Oh the knob one, don't have one of those
[09:11] <linner> fluvvell, yeah i'd like to get my hands on a silver one
[09:11] <linner> yeah... that's what i meant... sorry for the confusion
[09:11] <fluvvell> steel shaft type, red ball on top?
[09:11] <A-L-P-H-A> red ball? hmm... maybe I need a red bull.
[09:11] <linner> fluvvell, now i'm talking about the arcade kind, i think you're talking about a personal one right?
[09:11] <A-L-P-H-A> maybe not at 3:12am.
[09:12] <fluvvell> A-L-P-H-A: ha ha
[09:12] <linner> fluvvell, but that one you just referred to is for pacman and such
[09:12] <Myrtti> damn I keep forgetting what I was doing
[09:12] <fluvvell> linner: well, we used to have an arcade quality one that we sold in the shop, about $80 if I remember
[09:12] <A-L-P-H-A> pacman was played on a joystick... not a the large ball things.
[09:12] <A-L-P-H-A> damn I need to follow this better.
[09:12] <linner> really?  very cool!
[09:12] <AzMoo> I fixed my speed issue. For some reason there were two X sessions running.
[09:13] <fluvvell> linner: not the smooth progressive joysticks of today, but the on off type
[09:13] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, Fluvvell is right... it did have a red ball on top
[09:13] <missmarple> good morning
[09:13] <linner> fluvvell, yeah exactly
[09:13] <A-L-P-H-A> linner? in the arcade?
[09:13] <linner> hey missmarple
[09:13] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, totally!
[09:13] <fluvvell> people would slam them from side to side at incredible rates of knots
[09:13] <missmarple> i have a short question
[09:13] <linner> yep
[09:14] <linner> i still do when i can get my hands on a Ms. Pac-Man machine - the fast one, not the pokey slow one
[09:14] <missmarple> how can i find out whether my webcam module (cpia) is based on v4l or v4l2 ?
[09:14] <linner> you guys are so fun!
[09:14] <Madpilot> missmarple: asked google yet?
[09:14] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... well... pacman came out in 1980... (wikipedia)... and I was at most 0.5 to 1.5 years old.
[09:14] <linner> oh lord!
[09:14] <linner> I was 8.
[09:15] <missmarple> Madpilot: yes of course, bit i didnt find an appropriate answer
[09:15] <A-L-P-H-A> wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man states it was with a joystick.
[09:15] <linner> vu:  too funny!
[09:15] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: gpdf is worse (really slow)
[09:15] <A-L-P-H-A> not that wiki is the authority on the subject, but a good start.
[09:15] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, let me go check it out
[09:15] <missmarple> missmarple: maybe i also didnt ask for appropriate key words -;)
[09:15] <Invader_Zim> lol pacman
[09:15] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: And what about xpdf?
[09:15] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, well yeah, it was a joystick
[09:15] <linner> right... that's what fluvvell was describing
[09:16] <linner> I was talking about the knobby doo-hickey for tempest
[09:16] <A-L-P-H-A> linner, as opposed to the ball thing you guys were talking about... the ball thing was for tanks.
[09:16] <A-L-P-H-A> was tanks = tempest?
[09:16] <Invader_Zim> trackball
[09:16] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, I don't think so .  Not in the US anyway.
[09:16] <linner> Invader_Zim, wasn't it on a knob?
[09:16] <fluvvell> alpha, no it was a joystick like a gear lever with an 8ball on top, but red
[09:16] <Invader_Zim> Trackball games are kinda neat I once played with this ancient centiped game.
[09:16] <linner> ok... now I'm going to go find out
[09:16] <linner> wait one
[09:17] <fluvvell> not a trackball Invader, but yeah we had those too
[09:17] <A-L-P-H-A> fluvvell, yeah. a joystick with a ball on top (for a handle only).
[09:17] <vu> Madpilot, You da man ;-)
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: tactfully put ;-)
[09:17] <linner> ok.. here you go...
[09:17] <linner> http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/M/cMs._Pac-Man.gif
[09:17] <fluvvell> yeah yeah yeah, sure
[09:17] <linner> there's a picture of the darned thing
[09:18] <A-L-P-H-A> I thought you meant like a trackball.
[09:18] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, ok and here's a pic for tempest
[09:18] <linner> http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=10065
[09:19] <nalioth> Madpilot: obviously tact is wasted here
[09:19] <fluvvell> ok, now for some ubuntu problems!
[09:19] <A-L-P-H-A> linner, at least give us the original pac-man. http://www.arcadeshop.com/gamepic/new-namco-pac-man-ur-f.jpg
[09:19] <A-L-P-H-A> :)
[09:19] <missmarple> anybody has an idea to my question?
[09:19] <linner> thoreauputic, you absolutely crack me up
[09:19] <A-L-P-H-A> linner, I don't remember that game... tempest... I remember that style (raster graphics)
[09:19] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, dude, i just did a quick google for a pic
[09:19] <fluvvell> do you other guys know how to get it to reboot and not just sit there?
[09:20] <A-L-P-H-A> linner, I was kidding around. :)
[09:20] <fluvvell> without pressing the hard reset button
[09:20] <linner> A-L-P-H-A, yes... definitely raster
[09:20] <linner> A-L-P-H-A,  *big grin*
[09:20] <linner> hard to tell here sometimes :)
[09:21] <dazvid> can i install w32 codecs through synaptic or apt-get ?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[09:21] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... if i have $1600, I might buy the pac-man game.
[09:21] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <dazvid> or manually download and install?
[09:21] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: sorry, i had to reboot - gpdf had me completely hung :)
[09:21] <thoreauputic> dazvid: ^^^
[09:21] <dazvid> thanks thoreauputic
[09:21] <linner> this is what I had a-l-p-h-a:  http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Coleco/MsPacMan.htm
[09:22] <A-L-P-H-A> linner, the home version? :) heh
[09:22] <nalioth> dazvid: all 3 options are fine
[09:22] <linner> totally!!!
[09:22] <linner> dude it's going for upwards of $200 USD on eBay
[09:22] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: xpdf doesn't open it at all
[09:22] <robotgeek> nalioth: damn libtheora bug :)
[09:22] <linner> we paid like 25 I think back in the day
[09:22] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: Try xpdf then. If you still get problem there is high probability that the file is corrupted.
[09:22] <nalioth> as entertaining as the old game chat is, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place
[09:22] <A-L-P-H-A> a neighbour had one of those games, where it created raster graphics at home... has like cartridges, and screen templates.
[09:22] <dazvid> thoreauputic, it says w32codecs.. which I searched for and pulled nothing up.. whats their actual filename?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> linner: are you a known extravert ? /me ducks
[09:23] <A-L-P-H-A> I don't remember what they were called.
[09:23] <missmarple> :-(
[09:23] <linner> thoreauputic, um... yeah???!!!??? :)
[09:23] <thoreauputic> dazvid: it's in hoary-extras
[09:23] <thoreauputic> linner: that's close to the punctuation record ;-)
[09:24] <linner> huh?
[09:24] <cafuego> a simple interrobang would have sufficed.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> dazvid: if you read to the botom of the pae you will see the needed repository
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> hey help me again please
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> :)
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> about
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> irssi
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> meta-up              upper_window
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> 10:24 meta-down            lower_window
[09:25] <thoreauputic> *bottom
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> what that mean
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> meta
[09:25] <Red_Bullet> ??
[09:26] <Red_Bullet> what's this meta-down
[09:26] <HrdwrBoB> Red_Bullet: what are you doing
[09:26] <Red_Bullet> bind
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: *cough*
[09:26] <benplaut> oops
[09:26] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: Please use the 'return' key a lot less.
[09:26] <Red_Bullet> i write /bind
[09:26] <robotgeek> Red_Bullet: i think u might need to read irssi faq!
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: meta is usually "alt"
[09:26] <dazvid> thoreauputic, ah ok, was just looking for the link then
[09:27] <Red_Bullet> no it isn't alt
[09:27] <Red_Bullet> i pres alt+ up
[09:27] <robotgeek> Red_Bullet: try esc then
[09:27] <Red_Bullet> but i can't see the upperrest side of the windows
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: as cafuego says, you need to read the FAQ
[09:28] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm.... I found a new favourite word... hehe... callipygian
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: if you want to scroll up, use page-up
[09:29] <A-L-P-H-A> Red_Bullet, or move the window. :)
[09:29] <dazvid> thoreauputic, are there any other handy repos' that I should know about?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> dazvid: well, I recommend staying with the official ones really - and I suggest commenting out hoary-backports unless you are actually installing something
[09:31] <dazvid> righto
[09:31] <thoreauputic> as for hoary-extras actually
[09:32] <thoreauputic> dazvid: if you upgrade, odd things have been known to happen with the extra repos
[09:32] <Red_Bullet> aa can i copy the link to web site from chat dialog
[09:34] <Myrtti> nalioth: neither akeni or echat are what I was looking for
[09:34] <Red_Bullet> how can i activate tv-out to my g-force 4
[09:34] <nalioth> Myrtti: yes, but i've found that linpopup is a little heavy for me (with its samba dependency)
[09:34] <Red_Bullet> can anybody help me for tv-out
[09:35] <Myrtti> but I need a way to make the script talk
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: stop being annoying: please wait
[09:36] <Red_Bullet> sorry
[09:36] <aimaz> i used to use ubuntu behind a proxy, now it is gone, but the update manager still tries to connect using the proxy, where can i unset the setting it is using?
[09:36] <Myrtti> nalioth: echo "Compression successful, ${Y}.${M}.${D}"|smbclient -M nanook
[09:37] <nalioth> Myrtti: ya missed me by a mile with that
[09:37] <Myrtti> I've got a script that does some compression on the remote computer
[09:38] <Myrtti> after the compression is done, it informs me about it with smbclient -M
[09:38] <esc_ape> what is the commandline equivalent of windows "ipconfig"
[09:38] <Myrtti> ifconfig
[09:38] <Juhaz> ifconfig
[09:38] <nalioth> Myrtti: ah. so linpopup is just what Dr. Myrtti ordered
[09:38] <yonkeltron> esc_ape: ifconfig
[09:38] <esc_ape> thanks
[09:38] <linner> hey guys ... i'm curious is thoreauputic a moderator for the channel?
[09:38] <linner> he's really good if he is
[09:38] <Myrtti> but I'd like some other way of doing it, though
[09:39] <nalioth> linner: he's moderate, thats true
[09:39] <linner> nalioth, oh okay...
[09:39] <Myrtti> "channel operator"
[09:39] <linner> mypapit, oh okay...
[09:39] <linner> oops sorry
[09:39] <linner> Myrtti, i see
[09:39] <linner> Myrtti, same thing?
[09:40] <Myrtti> mmmm, soup
[09:40] <Myrtti> approx, yes
[09:42] <A-L-P-H-A> Anyone know if I can mount a SATA raid 0 array, that's formated NTFS?  The raid controller is a VIA onboard SATA chipset.
[09:45] <Trebz> Hello
[09:51] <thoreauputic> 5 minutes of silence? wtf?
[09:51] <nalioth> thoreauputic: you spoiled it!
[09:51] <thoreauputic> nalioth: hahah
[09:51] <vu> ;-)
[09:52] <CaiN_SA> lol
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> i was waiting for the cdrw
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> to finish burning
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> @ 4x
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> sigh
[09:54] <vu> c:
[09:54] <benplaut> you know... in a linux #channel, you can't exactly use 'fsck' as an excuse for $%@#, since fsck actually means something :P
[09:55] <robotgeek> benplaut: maybe they have it as fsck as things have f**d up if u have to use the command ?
[09:56] <benplaut> :P
[09:56] <benplaut> OK, don't break the silence... see who stumbles in and asks a stupid question :P
[09:56] <thoreauputic> benplaut: with caps lock on, of course ;)
[09:57] <AzMoo> I'm using my scroll wheel too much. My finger's getting a callus.
[09:57] <benplaut> heheh
[09:57] <benplaut> be careful, cafuego :P
[09:57] <Juhaz> speaking on fsck'd fsck, ubuntu's 1.35 can't handle FC4's filesystems
[09:58] <Red_Bullet> how can i download cedega for ubuntu
[09:58] <cafuego> Juhaz: FC4 is not a filesystem type.
[09:58] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: You pay them money and they allow you to fetch a .deb
[09:59] <Juhaz> cafuego, I didn't claim it was
[09:59] <Juhaz> cafuego, it does however use some ext3 features that aren't supported by 1.35
[09:59] <cafuego> Juhaz: "FC4's filesystems" - seems either wrong or a pointless statement
[09:59] <cafuego> Such as what? user_xattr?
[09:59] <Juhaz> not a clue
[10:01] <onkarshinde> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs emulator? I get a kernel panic when installation starts.
[10:01] <cafuego> Or has FC4 just broken standard (again)
[10:04] <Juhaz> highly unlikely, unless you count using e2fsprogs 1.37 as breaking the standard
[10:06] <linner> hey ya'll what's the channel where i can paste error messages?
[10:06] <linner> i don't want to do  it again in here
[10:06] <Juhaz> #flood, or use a web pastebin
[10:06] <dazvid> linner, Theres a website called pastebin.. the link is in the message of the day
[10:06] <linner> it is?
[10:06] <dazvid> http://pastebin.ubuntu.org I thinks...
[10:06] <linner> ok... let me go see if I can find it
[10:06] <Madpilot> !paste
[10:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:06] <Madpilot> linner: ^^^
[10:06] <dazvid> ah .nl
[10:06] <dazvid> my bad
[10:06] <linner> thank you!!!!
[10:07] <linner> Madpilot, thanks ;)
[10:07] <Madpilot> linner: no problem
[10:07] <Madpilot> need sleep. good night, all
[10:08] <linner> Madpilot, goodnight dear
[10:08] <linner> :)
[10:08] <cafuego> Juhaz: Redhat has a habit of doing stupoid stuff, they may well have patched their kernel or fs tools with nonstandard patches.
[10:08] <linner> ok here's the skinny:  trying to install screem through synaptic
[10:08] <linner> in #flood is what i'm getting
[10:08] <dazvid> how do i kill specific processes?
[10:09] <onkarshinde> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs emulator? I get a kernel panic when installation starts.
[10:09] <cafuego> dazvid: will 'kill'.
[10:09] <cafuego> dazvid: or hit 'k' in top.
[10:09] <dazvid> Yes i know the command kill.. but not sure how to specify the actual program
[10:10] <dazvid> it says to use the process ID .. but wheres that?
[10:10] <cafuego> dazvid: kill <process id>
[10:10] <aftertaf> dazvid:  type ps -A
[10:10] <cafuego> dazvid: You get the process id via 'ps'
[10:10] <aftertaf> to find the id
[10:10] <dazvid> righto
[10:10] <cafuego> dazvid: the first column.
[10:10] <dazvid> thanks thanks
[10:10] <cafuego> eh, second
[10:10] <dazvid> ah excellent
[10:13] <linner> :)
[10:13] <dazvid> lol
[10:13] <linner> *grin*
[10:13] <linner> #flood
[10:13] <linner> oops
[10:13] <sleon> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaathechaaaaaampionnnnnnnnsss my friiiiiiiieeeeeeennnddd
[10:14] <Somada141> is there a list of all the packages that come with the Ubuntu CD?
[10:14] <sleon> weeeee areeee on top offff foresightlinuxxxxxxxxxxx aallll the daaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,, wweeee aree the beeestt t  gnooooommmeee packaggeeeeers oooooffff wooooooooooooooooooooooooooorld
[10:14] <aftertaf> hehe
[10:15] <cafuego> sleon: See you later.
[10:16] <Somada141> anyone?
[10:16] <sn0n> Somada141, you can DL the CD and ls it
[10:16] <Somada141> i am on WinXp on the university
[10:16] <A-L-P-H-A> woohoo... new kernel finally allows my wireless mouse to work properly...
[10:17] <Somada141> i have ubuntu back at home but no connection
[10:17] <A-L-P-H-A> Somada141, , I avoid my school computers at all cost... I bring my laptop, and wireless card. :)
[10:18] <Somada141> well i don't have one
[10:18] <ompaul> thoreauputic, msg?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> sure :)
[10:19] <Weedy> anyone around
[10:19] <Somada141> is there some way i could dnl all packages of a section burn them on a cd and do my work?
[10:20] <ompaul> Weedy, about 333
[10:20] <ompaul> !tell Weedy about ask
[10:20] <onkarshinde> Somada141: What do you mean by all packages of a section?
[10:21] <A-L-P-H-A> Somada141,  there's a DVD image...
[10:21] <Somada141> i mean i want the ogg vorbis codecs but there a million dependacies
[10:21] <Somada141> where can i find it?
[10:21] <Somada141> i have to go back and forth and check which other packages i need
[10:21] <Chastaghir> @Somada141, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[10:22] <ompaul> Somada141, you should just grab the .debs
[10:22] <BeFalou> why totem is so slooow? it can't play anything, avi looks weird and DVDs play at 1 fps...
[10:22] <Somada141> yap but each deb depends on ten others
[10:22] <ompaul> Somada141, so you download the 10 debs and burn them off
[10:22] <ompaul> :)
[10:23] <ompaul> Somada141, let me run a command line or two and put them in pastebin for you
[10:23] <Somada141> ok
[10:23] <Somada141> ALPHA : how can i save the folder you told me?
[10:24] <vu> So whats the way to  go: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:24] <A-L-P-H-A> Somada141, which folder?  the DVD?  There's an DVD image... but I don't know of the ogg vorbis codecs are on it... probably are.
[10:24] <Somada141> Chastaghir : i saw the URL but how can i save it on my HDD?
[10:24] <Somada141> yeah but where can i get that image?
[10:24] <ompaul> vu ask that question in kubuntu that they will say kubuntu here their spies will say kubuntu, but I will tell you ubuntu :)
[10:25] <ompaul> Somada141, cdimages.ubuntu.com
[10:25] <dazvid> are there any true benefits other than just personal preference from using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:25] <vu> ompaul, You make a lot of sense. I hate KDE so I guess ubuntu is the way.
[10:26] <ngmlinux> how the (#*)#$* do you install sun java in ubuntu
[10:26] <ngmlinux> ????
[10:26] <ngmlinux> it's 4:30 am and i'm still working on something this stupid
[10:26] <Ng> ngmlinux: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for Java, there's a page that describes what to do
[10:26] <A-L-P-H-A> Somada141,  I'll have to find that iso image... why not just google it?
[10:26] <ngmlinux> Ng, already read it
[10:26] <Anything> hnn there isnt a video driver for intel 845 g/l
[10:26] <Anything> for linux
[10:26] <Ng> ngmlinux: which bit are you having trouble with?
[10:26] <Anything> this sucks...
[10:26] <Somada141> search for what ? "dvd image ubuntu" or sth?
[10:27] <ngmlinux> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[10:27] <Ng> ngmlinux: you need to enable the multiverse repository to get java-package
[10:27] <ngmlinux> please walk me through that, Ng
[10:28] <ngmlinux> Ng, in synaptic or .list?
[10:28] <dazvid> either ^
[10:28] <thesaltydog> Before upgrading to breezy I have saved my disk timings from running
[10:28] <thesaltydog> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[10:28] <skabble> how do i play a cd from the terminal window?
[10:28] <Ng> ngmlinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto :)
[10:28] <thesaltydog> This was the timing on Hoary:
[10:28] <thesaltydog> /dev/hda:
[10:28] <thesaltydog> Timing cached reads: 2980 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1488.74 MB/sec
[10:28] <thesaltydog> Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.03 seconds = 57.49 MB/sec
[10:28] <ngmlinux> Ng, I know how to add repositories
[10:28] <thesaltydog> and this is the current timing in Breezy:
[10:28] <ngmlinux> Ng, I need specifics
[10:28] <Ng> ngmlinux: that page tells you how to add multiverse
[10:28] <thesaltydog> /dev/hda:
[10:28] <thesaltydog> Timing cached reads: 2832 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1415.51 MB/sec
[10:28] <thesaltydog> Timing buffered disk reads: 40 MB in 3.01 seconds = 13.29 MB/sec
[10:29] <thesaltydog> ...terribly slooooow.
[10:29] <skabble> hi keikoz
[10:30] <skabble> can someone tell me how to play a cd from the command line?
[10:31] <ngmlinux> Ng, now we're getting somewhere
[10:31] <nalioth> blasted cable company
[10:31] <Somada141> the ubuntu site mentions the DVD of packages but doesn't give a link or anything
[10:32] <nalioth> Somada141: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <Somada141> i went but i can't find it?
[10:32] <ompaul> Somada141, if you go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2009 you will have some info you may be interested in
[10:32] <nalioth> Somada141: there are torrents at the download page for the dvd's
[10:32] <Somada141> thnx
[10:33] <ompaul> Somada141, http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent from this http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[10:33] <nalioth> thoreauputic: are you alive?
[10:34] <ompaul> thoreauputic, is alive!
[10:34] <thoreauputic> yeah
[10:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:34] <Somada141> thanks a lot
[10:34] <nalioth> my cable co dropped me for a minim
[10:34] <nalioth> sorry wastes of ties
[10:34] <Somada141> isn't there a way to get the dvd on direct download
[10:34] <yonkeltron> anyone ever realize that kelly clarkson's since u been gone could easily be sung to windows?
[10:35] <nalioth> Somada141: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <Somada141> i tried it but it can't find it
[10:35] <ompaul> Somada141, dvds are only on torrent
[10:35] <Somada141> oh
[10:35] <ompaul> Somada141, I gave you the torrent link
[10:35] <Somada141> what if i dnl all the pool using ftp client?
[10:36] <nalioth> Somada141: say what?
[10:36] <Somada141> yap i am trying ti get it but the firewalls don't like it
[10:36] <vu> Has anybody thought if the name ubuntu will have any impact on the usage of this distro in Africa?  Kubuntu has a more German spin to me. Are we starting to get into culturally influenced distros.
[10:36] <ompaul> Somada141, you know the answer to that yourself
[10:36] <Somada141> i do?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> vu: kubuntu is also an African word
[10:36] <nalioth> vu: i'm sure this distro will be widely used in africa, since the guide of it lives there
[10:37] <ompaul> Somada141, if you download stuff using ftp it will be on your machine ......
[10:37] <vu> nalioth, guide????
[10:37] <ompaul> !guide
[10:37] <ubotu> ompaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:37] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[10:37] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[10:37] <nalioth> vu the guide. the mentor. (the money behind ubuntu)
[10:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: wrong one :)
[10:37] <Somada141> yap i'll dnl it and then burn it on a dvd
[10:37] <nalioth> ompaul: please
[10:38] <ompaul> sorry
[10:38] <vu> thoreauputic, Kubuntu means?
[10:38] <ngmlinux> how can i check which version of java i have installed?
[10:38] <ngmlinux> i want to verify that i have sun java now and not gnu
[10:38] <thoreauputic> vu: Mark Shuttleworth is SOuth African
[10:38] <nalioth> ngmlinux: in a term, java -version
[10:38] <vu> nalioth, Who is that guy and where is he from?
[10:38] <vu> Aha
[10:38] <thoreauputic> vu: something like "towards huanity" from memory
[10:38] <ngmlinux> nalioth, i just installed sun java
[10:38] <thoreauputic> *humanity
[10:38] <ngmlinux> nalioth and it still reports gnu java being installed
[10:39] <vu> But he is of British origin doesn't really count.
[10:39] <ngmlinux> nalioth: hey! you're back
[10:39] <thoreauputic> vu: huh??
[10:39] <ompaul>  Ubuntu is an age-old African term for humaneness - for caring, sharing and being in harmony with all of creation. As an ideal, it promotes co-operation between individuals, cultures and nations.
[10:39] <ngmlinux> nalioth: by the way i replaced 64 with i386
[10:39] <nalioth> ngmlinux: use synaptic and remove all gnu java stuff (search for java in "pkg names and contents")
[10:40] <nalioth> ngmlinux: you will find it much easier to develop on
[10:40] <vu> I guess the folks in Nigeria have never heard of the word. Don't mean to be insulting to the host Nigerians.
[10:41] <thoreauputic> vu: what is your point? Did you read what the word means?
[10:41] <ompaul> vu and I don't use the word, but I use the software
[10:41] <grahamoz> whats the lastest version of Ubuntu
[10:41] <grahamoz> ?
[10:41] <ngmlinux> nalioth, that's like searching for a needle in a needlestack
[10:41] <grahamoz> latest
[10:41] <ompaul> vu and whats more I like the meaning
[10:41] <vu> Ok cool....
[10:41] <nalioth> ngmlinux: not really. i did it yesterday
[10:41] <ngmlinux> nalioth: remove gij
[10:41] <ngmlinux> and gdb?
[10:41] <nalioth> ngmlinux: you are looking for things that are installed
[10:41] <ompaul> grahamoz, the latest version is 5.04 the next will be 5.10
[10:41] <ngmlinux> there's a lot
[10:41] <nalioth> ngmlinux: not gdb
[10:41] <ngmlinux> gij?
[10:42] <nalioth> ngmlinux: just the 'java only things', like gij
[10:42] <ngmlinux> how many java related files do i need to remove?
[10:42] <ompaul> grahamoz, those numbers are year/month the names are hoary / breezy
[10:42] <ngmlinux> nalioth what about java-common??
[10:42] <nalioth> ngmlinux: yup
[10:42] <ngmlinux> i don't know what's gnu and what's sun
[10:42] <ngmlinux> remove java-common
[10:42] <ngmlinux> ok
[10:43] <nalioth> ngmlinux: it says jre-sun-blah
[10:43] <nalioth> or something like that
[10:43] <A-L-P-H-A> what's the mount command to mount a ipod? mount /dev/sda /media/ipod [what filesystem?] 
[10:43] <`paul> i want to add somthing in $PATH and i want it to be added evrytime i boot the system i edited .bash_profile it seems to be not working am i doing something wrong?
[10:44] <penticlex> how do I stop my xserver
[10:44] <Somada141> Stupid Question : Can't i cd a folder whose name has space in it ? e.g "NTFS Packages"???
[10:44] <grahamoz> so 5th of october ?
[10:44] <dazvid> Somada141: use \ and then a space
[10:45] <dazvid> or just hit TAB to autocomplete
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Somada141: or tab complete it
[10:45] <dazvid> ;)
[10:45] <ngmlinux> nalioth this is way over my head to be honest
[10:45] <`paul> help.. pls
[10:45] <Somada141> oh
[10:45] <ngmlinux> i'm not an expert at what's what from what java
[10:45] <Somada141> autocoplete?
[10:45] <Somada141> autocomplete?
[10:45] <ngmlinux> i need gcj to work and i need sun java to work
[10:45] <penticlex> how can I shut down GDM back to a console
[10:45] <dazvid> Somada141: just type first 3 letters or so (sometimes less) and hit TAB
[10:46] <Somada141> it completes the name of the folder on its own?
[10:46] <ngmlinux> and i've got more files than i have any clue about nailoth
[10:46] <nalioth> ngmlinux: then stop right there and introduce a variable in your .bashrc to set your java preference
[10:46] <dazvid> Yes.
[10:46] <Somada141> Cool
[10:46] <`paul> ctrl-alt-F1
[10:46] <Somada141> man i love Linux
[10:46] <dazvid> works in here too ;)
[10:46] <ngmlinux> nalioth, i don't know how to do that either
[10:46] <dazvid> you can do it in windows too Somada141, but yes linux is cool  :P
[10:46] <penticlex> no I actualy want to stop my xserver not just go to a console
[10:46] <Somada141> :)
[10:46] <ngmlinux> linux is not cool, it's 4:30 am
[10:46] <`paul> killall xserver i think
[10:47] <ngmlinux> and i'm just trying to install java
[10:47] <`paul> or killall GDM
[10:47] <`paul> ngm: mee too
[10:47] <`paul> ngm: but my problem is to set the $PATH evrytime i boot
[10:47] <dazvid> ngmlinux: Just use synaptic. Go to the wiki that was linked before, read the isntructions carefully
[10:47] <Somada141> is there a huide or sth for all that?
[10:47] <Somada141> guide
[10:48] <ngmlinux> dazvid, i'm using synaptic, i've read the wiki
[10:48] <ngmlinux> dazvid, and i have no clue what i'm doing
[10:48] <Somada141> i read the Ubuntu Unofficial but it didn't give any CLI info
[10:48] <dazvid> well I just installed it
[10:48] <dazvid> its about 30mb download
[10:48] <ngmlinux> i installed it to
[10:48] <ngmlinux> but type java -version
[10:48] <ngmlinux> i bet you're still running on gnu
[10:48] <ngmlinux> so your sun java is useless
[10:49] <dazvid> Er mine doesnt mention gnu anywhere
[10:49] <ngmlinux> nalioth: someone told me how to do this before with one symbolic link chnage i think
[10:49] <ngmlinux> it was like 1 or 2 command lines and i activated sun java
[10:50] <ngmlinux> and deactivated gnu java
[10:50] <ngmlinux> dazvid paste what it says
[10:50] <A-L-P-H-A> heh. if I just unplug and plug in my ipod, breezy just detects it. love it. :)
[10:50] <ngmlinux> nalioth: can you give me a command line or two to do something like that
[10:50] <nalioth> ngmlinux: sure thing
[10:50] <pepsi> how can i listen to wma files?
[10:50] <ngmlinux> thanks, nalioth
[10:51] <Sly> :( , my first day back at college,
[10:51] <Sly> somone help
[10:51] <Somada141> Stupid Question : In order to install packages without synaptic do i put them in /usr/local/bin ?
[10:51] <A-L-P-H-A> Somada141,  no... use apt-get.
[10:52] <nalioth> Somada141: anything YOU install goes in /usr/local/ yes, but please know what you are doing
[10:52] <Somada141> well i don't have a connection back home so ihave to do it manually
[10:52] <nemesio> hello everyone
[10:52] <Somada141> why
[10:52] <Somada141> ?
[10:52] <vu> Is Knoppix in essence Debian?
[10:53] <nemesio> err does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??
[10:53] <ngmlinux> nalioth, you still working on those commands?
[10:53] <nalioth> Somada141: and the packages apt-get uses go in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:53] <nalioth> ngmlinux: patience
[10:53] <ngmlinux> k
[10:53] <nemesio> err does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??
[10:53] <Bateau_> hey! im having problems with starting Steam with Cedega. i get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1994 . can anyone help please?
[10:53] <ompaul> vu what http://www.knoppix.com say ?
[10:54] <nemesio> err does anyone on this channel got a compaq r3000 ??
[10:54] <keikoz> nemesio flooding will not bring you a faster answer ...
[10:55] <nemesio> is not flooding
[10:55] <keikoz> quite
[10:55] <nemesio> im just asking
[10:55] <vu> ompaul, I cannot access it from where I am for some reason. Can you?
[10:55] <keikoz> useless anyway
[10:55] <nalioth> vu knoppix is debian based, as is ubuntu
[10:56] <Sly> nalioth... you ever off here
[10:56] <onkarshinde> Sly: What help do you need?
[10:56] <Sly> i went to bed at 4/5am you was here, got up now, getting ready for college ,and you still here ! :)
[10:56] <nalioth> Sly: sure, when i sleep
[10:56] <sn0n> here ware the video codecs again ?
[10:57] <sn0n> where are**
[10:57] <vu> nalioth, I was just reading about Jonathan Riddell who maintains KDE for kubuntu but actually uses on his laptop Knoppix.
[10:57] <Somada141> are there any more ubuntu guides than the Unofficial one?
[10:57] <onkarshinde> sn0n: Which codecs? What files are you trying to play?
[10:57] <sn0n> wmv, etc..
[10:57] <nalioth> Somada141: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[10:57] <Sly-College> :(, first days back suck :(
[10:57] <Somada141> thanks
[10:57] <ngmlinux> nalioth, making any progress?
[10:58] <onkarshinde> !codecs
[10:58] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:58] <sn0n> thnx
[10:58] <onkarshinde> sn0n: Read ubotu's reply
[10:58] <ngmlinux> sorry for my impatience but it's freaking 5 am!!!
[10:58] <nalioth> ngmlinux: JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.3.1/;export JAVA_HOME
[10:58] <sn0n> got it
[10:58] <sn0n> thnx
[10:58] <ngmlinux> thanks! nalioth
[10:58] <ngmlinux> let me try that
[10:59] <ngmlinux> nalioth, that directory doesn't exist
[11:00] <nalioth> ngmlinux: use what i posted as a guide
[11:00] <ngmlinux> no i mean i don't have a j2sdkx.x.x anything
[11:00] <Chameleon22> can anyone recomend a nice bittorrent client?
[11:00] <ngmlinux> there's nothing in /usr/local
[11:00] <ngmlinux> related to java
[11:00] <bluesceada> "bittorrent" :=)
[11:00] <ngmlinux> and don't tell me i didn't install it
[11:00] <bluesceada> btdownloadcurses.py
[11:00] <Chameleon22> bluesceada, deb doesnt wnt to install :(
[11:02] <ngmlinux> nalioth: what now?
[11:02] <bluesceada> Chameleon22: but you will anyway need the basic bittorrent
[11:02] <Chameleon22> ?
[11:02] <ngmlinux> i'm about to just chuck this thing out the window
[11:02] <nalioth> ngmlinux: in a terminal, type "source ~/.bashrc"
[11:02] <ngmlinux> okay
[11:03] <onkarshinde> Chameleon22: If you have Ubuntu 5.04 you already have one. But you can consider trying azureus.sf.net
[11:03] <Jaivaz> Odd problem.. I just started trying out XFCE and the Internet and Multimedia menus have double of everything.
[11:03] <ngmlinux> nalioth: done
[11:03] <ngmlinux> no errors
[11:03] <Chameleon22> onkarshinde, thanks
[11:03] <nalioth> ngmlinux: now type "java -version" and see
[11:03] <ngmlinux> ok
[11:03] <ngmlinux> java -version
[11:03] <ngmlinux> java version "1.4.2"
[11:03] <ngmlinux> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4ubuntu6)
[11:03] <ngmlinux> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[11:03] <ngmlinux> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[11:03] <ngmlinux> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[11:04] <nalioth> ngmlinux: please havent we been here alreadY?
[11:04] <ngmlinux> yes
[11:04] <ngmlinux> that's why i'm pissed
[11:04] <ngmlinux> same old crap no matter what i try
[11:04] <Bateau_> im having some problems with starting Steam in Cedega. and any other aplication actualy. i get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1994 . can anyone help please?
[11:05] <ngmlinux> nalioth: are you out of ideas?
[11:05] <ngmlinux> anybody know ubuntu inside and out?
[11:05] <nalioth> ngmlinux: here is what i have
[11:05] <Seveas> Bateau_, set your language correctly
[11:06] <Bateau_> yes, i understand that... but i dont know where :/
[11:06] <thoreauputic> ngmlinux: do not paste in here, please
[11:06] <Seveas> export LANGUAGE=en_US
[11:06] <Seveas> cesege steam.exe
[11:06] <nalioth> Seveas: can you help ngmlinux with his java selection?
[11:06] <Seveas> cedeag steam.exe*
[11:06] <martii> Hi
[11:06] <Seveas> nalioth, maybe
[11:06] <martii> I have adaptec AAC-RAID controller
[11:07] <martii> does anyone know any tools to check raid status
[11:07] <martii> with this one?
[11:07] <Seveas> ngmlinux, which java do you want?
[11:07] <nalioth> Seveas: ngmlinux wants to have his sun java in his operating path, but not his gnu java
[11:07] <martii> adaptec provides some tools for java and redhat
[11:07] <Seveas> then he should install a sun java .deb file
[11:08] <walde> I hate talking in ubuntu-regged :-)
[11:08] <Hmmmm> anyone got the new gnome yet?
[11:08] <walde> I need some help with "wipe". Is it possible to wipe a whole device directly without running over a filesystem?
[11:08] <ngmlinux> by the way i got a lot of errors when my java install finally worked
[11:08] <ngmlinux> are errors okay?
[11:09] <Seveas> no
[11:09] <ngmlinux> about 50% of the output was errors
[11:09] <ngmlinux> but it finished this time
[11:09] <ngmlinux> finally
[11:09] <Seveas> when did you get these errors?
[11:09] <ngmlinux> a few minutes ago
[11:09] <scanwinder> is there something similar to google desktop for linux? i really want a sidebar in linux!!
[11:09] <ngmlinux> i've been trying to install sun java for the last 16 hours
[11:09] <ngmlinux> almost as quick as the 5 minutes it took in windows
[11:09] <Seveas> ngmlinux, I mean, which command generated the errors?
[11:10] <ngmlinux> oh
[11:10] <ngmlinux> let me check
[11:10] <deFrysk>  scanwinder google has one available for linux afaIk
[11:10] <ngmlinux> Seveas, i don't know my scroll back isn't long enough :-/
[11:10] <Seveas> ngmlinux, ok, did you run the sun .bin file directly?
[11:10] <scanwinder> deFrysk: got a url for that?
[11:11] <deFrysk> google.com
[11:11] <scanwinder> deFrysk: well i did a google search for afaIk and didnt find anything
[11:11] <scanwinder> deFrysk: well nothing called afaIk anyway
[11:12] <ngmlinux> Seveas yes
[11:12] <ngmlinux> then i did some deb stuff i think
[11:12] <ngmlinux> i can't rememeber
[11:12] <Seveas> ngmlinux, ouch, running the deb directly is bad
[11:12] <ngmlinux> it's 5:15 am and my mind doesn't work as well
[11:12] <deFrysk> scanwinder,  http://labs.google.com/
[11:12] <Seveas> get some sleep and we'll solve it when you're awake :)
[11:12] <ngmlinux> ok Seveas i just uninstalled sun java
[11:12] <ngmlinux> no i need this working by tommorow
[11:12] <ngmlinux> for a project
[11:13] <ngmlinux> i have to install eclipse tommorow and scratchbox
[11:13] <deFrysk> scanwinder, sorry, it need xp i see now
[11:13] <Seveas> ok
[11:13] <ngmlinux> that will take a few days i'm sure
[11:13] <ngmlinux> and i'm behind schedual
[11:13] <ngmlinux> so this happens now
[11:13] <Seveas> grab a .deb file for java from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:13] <Bateau_> Seveas: now steam doesnt start at all. and i get this wierd error saying: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2011
[11:13] <Seveas> these are correct ones
[11:13] <scanwinder> deFrysk: yeah.......its really annoying that there isnt a linux one!
[11:13] <ngmlinux> you have the sdk?
[11:13] <ngmlinux> i need the sdk deb
[11:14] <ngmlinux> not some jre only deb
[11:14] <Seveas> yes
[11:14] <ngmlinux> okay
[11:14] <Seveas> sdk 1.5 and sdk 1.4
[11:14] <scanwinder> deFrysk: google in considering making a linux version sometime tho.........but thatll be a long way off
[11:14] <deFrysk> scanwinder, its just pretty spyware
[11:14] <Hmmmm> anyone got the new gnome yet?
[11:14] <scanwinder> deFrysk: google dosent do spyware:P
[11:14] <deFrysk> scanwinder, no ? ;)
[11:14] <Seveas> scanwinder, they do, they just call it different
[11:15] <candlelight> ngmlinux, what java problem you having?
[11:15] <scanwinder> well i want a sidebar still!!!!!!
[11:15] <deFrysk> scanwinder, complain @ google not here
[11:15] <scanwinder> lol....ppl already have.........and they're just like "we'll consider it"
[11:16] <mattyJ> scanwinder: you looking for something like this? http://mono-project.com/files/2/2b/Dashboard.screenshot.png
[11:16] <deFrysk> scanwinder, its harder to make spyware for linux thats why it takes a while I guess
[11:16] <ngmlinux> thanks Seveas
[11:16] <topyli> scanwinder: not much we can do
[11:16] <ngmlinux> that's downloading now
[11:16] <Seveas> ok
[11:16] <sexcopter8000m> woot, /me feels chuffed. I managed to install a latex plugin for gaim ^^
[11:16] <Seveas> install that with dpkg -i sun-blabla.deb
[11:16] <scanwinder> deFrysk: yes, that looks good
[11:16] <sexcopter8000m> so now i can talk mathsy stuff to all my chums :P
[11:16] <Seveas> that should give sun java higher preference
[11:16] <ngmlinux> candlelight, tons of random errors then i don't know how to switch off gnu and turn on sun java
[11:17] <Seveas> if not, come back and we'll do it manually
[11:17] <sexcopter8000m> plus it's the first thing i've attempted to install outside apt-get :P
[11:18] <scanwinder> anyone know where i can find a deb package for dashboard?
[11:18] <sexcopter8000m> now, next project... getting windows games working... sorry this might be a really annoying question you get all the time, but i don't quite get the difference between wine and cedega, and which i want
[11:19] <ngmlinux> Seveas about 8 minutes to go on this dl
[11:19] <Seveas> ngmlinux, that's reasonably fast considering my upstream is only 1mbit :)
[11:19] <topyli> sexcopter8000m: cool. not that i exchange mathematical formulas with my buddies on gaim very much :)
[11:19] <sexcopter8000m> hehe topyli, i confess to doing a maths degree :s
[11:20] <mattyJ> scanwinder: i think you can find it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32725&highlight=dashboard
[11:20] <ngmlinux> what country you located in Seveas?
[11:20] <Seveas> Bateau_, that error is a bit too cedega-specific. Can't help with that
[11:20] <LaserLine> What kernel should I choose on an AMD AthlonXP 2700+ with 1 GB ram ?? and will it support the 1 GB I have ?
[11:20] <Seveas> ngmlinux, N:
[11:20] <Seveas> NL
[11:20] <ngmlinux> i'm in ny, usa
[11:20] <candlelight> ngmlinux, I believe others may have advised to install Sun java using synaptic?
[11:20] <nalioth> LaserLine: 686
[11:21] <ngmlinux> candlelight, no you can't java is not gnu
[11:21] <LaserLine> nalioth what is the K7 kernel ?>
[11:21] <ngmlinux> you have to start it elsewhere
[11:21] <ngmlinux> then you can manage it in synaptyic
[11:21] <Seveas> candlelight, that would require adding hoary-extras, which has (about) the same java .debs as I have :)
[11:21] <candlelight> ngmlinux, yes I install the 1.5 update 4 through synaptic
[11:21] <ngmlinux> yeah i'd like to see that candelight
[11:22] <ngmlinux> i'm gonna use Seveas .deb
[11:22] <sexcopter8000m> what happens if i apt-get install a_package and that package is already installed? will it just ignore it or screw up?
[11:22] <Seveas> sexcopter8000m, it will ignore and say 'Hey, that's alreadey installed!'
[11:22] <LaserLine> When I install ubuntu in addition to my windows xp, should I choose "is this partition bootable" yes or no ??
[11:22] <ngmlinux> Seveas, ok once i get this file what am i doing? a sudo dpkg -i file.deb and cross my fingers?
[11:22] <sexcopter8000m> ok :)
[11:22] <Jefis> when kubuntu boots, it sets wrong time, it trys to sincronize with HARDWARE, how to disable that?
[11:22] <Seveas> ngmlinux, yes
[11:23] <ngmlinux> then can you instruct me how to set my java to sun and not gnu?
[11:23] <Seveas> ngmlinux, the .deb *should* do that for you
[11:23] <candlelight> Seveas, ic, but installing through synaptic just work, I didn't need to do anything else and running "java" or "javac" just works
[11:23] <ngmlinux> nice, i hope so Seveas
[11:23] <nalioth> LaserLine: you might try that, also. either one will work
[11:23] <Seveas> candlelight, do you have hoary-extras enabled?
[11:23] <candlelight> Seveas, i guess so
[11:23] <LaserLine> What is the diffrence with the K7 kernel and 686 kernel for AthlonXP ? (what's better ?)
[11:24] <Seveas> K7 is athlon-tuned
[11:24] <ngmlinux> btw i have breezy set in synaptic
[11:24] <aftertaf> LaserLine:  686 is for P4
[11:24] <candlelight> Seveas, whatever was told in the wiki ubuntu
[11:24] <ngmlinux> instead of hoary
[11:24] <LaserLine> both kernels support 1GB ram ?
[11:24] <Seveas> yes
[11:24] <candlelight> ngmlinux, if to avoid add extra repo, can download from Sun's site and install directly
[11:24] <Seveas> candlelight, that's a bad thing
[11:24] <LaserLine> Seveas - the yes was for me ?
[11:25] <Seveas> LaserLine, yes :)
[11:25] <candlelight> Seveas, perhaps..
[11:25] <LaserLine> Seveas, and what drivers for the Asus A7N8X deluxe mother board ? and ATI Radeon 9500PRO ?
[11:26] <Seveas> !ati
[11:26] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:26] <ngmlinux> candlelight, i've tried everything
[11:26] <ngmlinux> i've been working on this for 16 hours
[11:26] <LaserLine> Seveas that's for ATI, I found that... and for the Mobo ? A7N8X Deluxe (nforce2)
[11:26] <ngmlinux> it's not that simple
[11:27] <deFrysk> LaserLine, int that via82xx ?
[11:27] <Seveas> LaserLine, search the forums for nforce if you run into problems
[11:27] <candlelight> ngmlinux, unpacking the tar ball from Sun's site is not too much additional work than installing through synaptic
[11:27] <Seveas> it should work without hassle
[11:27] <onkarshinde> Seveas: I thought K7 was for some old AMD processor. Are you sure it is Athlon XP optimised? Can you point me to a page which says that?
[11:27] <LaserLine> deFrysk nope, it's nVidia nForce2 chipset with SoundStorm...
[11:27] <candlelight> ngmlinux, perhaps just need to create some symlink to your local, or reference it directly
[11:27] <Seveas> candlelight, it just f*s up your system :)
[11:27] <ngmlinux> yeah Seveas is right
[11:28] <candlelight> Seveas, I'm new to ubuntu, how does that be true?
[11:28] <deFrysk> LaserLine, oww
[11:28] <LaserLine> candlelight I'm looking for a page now, and i can't find one... but we can install both :D
[11:28] <Seveas> because that crappy installer install stuff all over the place
[11:28] <Almindor> is there a gui config tool for services?
[11:28] <Seveas> and does not utilice the extremely useful alternatives system that debian and ubuntu have
[11:28] <candlelight> Seveas, oh.. I'm not refering the installer
[11:28] <Seveas> !tell Almindor about bum
[11:29] <candlelight> Seveas, I'm refering the one without an installer, just unpack and use it
[11:29] <ngmlinux> Seveas, sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[11:29] <ngmlinux> right?
[11:29] <candlelight> ngmlinux is running out of time right? just unpack, and use straight away
[11:29] <nalioth> Seveas: bum allows you to turn on and off services?
[11:29] <Seveas> ngmlinux, yeah
[11:29] <catfox> sorry all, i know this is ot but does anyone know the command for creating a new file in an msdos prompt? :)
[11:29] <LaserLine> Seveas, still searching for the nForce2 documentation and ubuntu - can't find any, any tips if any drivers are required ?
[11:30] <onkarshinde> catfox: you mean 'copy con'?
[11:30] <onkarshinde> catfox: copy con filename
[11:30] <Seveas> LaserLine, 'forcedeth' if your ethernet card fails to work
[11:30] <catfox> onkarshinde: i think thats the one
[11:30] <catfox> onkarshinde: cool, thanks
[11:30] <ngmlinux> Seveas, as suspected
[11:30] <ngmlinux> this did not work either
[11:30] <Seveas> errors?
[11:30] <ngmlinux> no errors
[11:30] <Seveas> ot path not set correctly?
[11:30] <ngmlinux> but when i
[11:30] <ngmlinux> java -version
[11:30] <ngmlinux> it's still set to gnu
[11:30] <Seveas> ok, then we correct it manually
[11:31] <LaserLine> forcedeth is the name of the package ?
[11:31] <Seveas> wait one second
[11:31] <nalioth> Seveas: is there a setting he can put in his .bashrc or something?
[11:31] <Seveas> nalioth, even better :)
[11:31] <phrizer> Whats the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in synaptic?
[11:31] <nalioth> phrizer: 'complete' takes out config files
[11:31] <ngmlinux> phrizer, mare for compelete removal pulls the settings
[11:31] <LaserLine> I have 2 network adapters on the mobo, one from nVidia and the other from 3Com
[11:32] <Seveas> ngmlinux, use this command:
[11:32] <Seveas> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:32] <Seveas> sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[11:32] <Seveas> (both are needed)
[11:32] <Almindor> oi thanks for that
[11:32] <Seveas> select the sun java and javac
[11:32] <phrizer> ah
[11:32] <Almindor> I have a "setting up general consolefont: failure" on boot
[11:32] <LaserLine> Seveas Can't find what the 'forcedeth' mean....
[11:32] <Almindor> nothing critical, just wish to know what can cause this
[11:32] <phrizer> does synaptic remove dependencies that are not required anymore?
[11:33] <Seveas> LaserLine, that's the nforce ethernet driver
[11:33] <Seveas> phrizer, not yet
[11:33] <ngmlinux> HALLEJLUAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:33] <Seveas> debfoster can give you a hand with that
[11:33] <Seveas> ngmlinux, relax
[11:33] <ngmlinux> THANK YOU SEVEAS
[11:33] <Seveas> you're not there yet :)
[11:33] <Seveas> (but VERY close)
[11:34] <ngmlinux> k
[11:34] <ngmlinux> what's next
[11:34] <Seveas> put the output of ls -al /etc/alternatives on the pastebin
[11:34] <LaserLine> Seveas I can't find it via synaptic...
[11:34] <nalioth> Seveas: tell me the truth. you ARE running with a 200TB fiberoptic backend, aren't you?
[11:34] <Seveas> LaserLine, it's already on your system, you might need to modprobe it
[11:34] <Seveas> like this: modprobe forcedeth
[11:34] <deFrysk> use sudo
[11:35] <LaserLine> Seveas and what'll have to do to make it work on boot up time ?
[11:35] <phrizer> Seveas,  yet?
[11:35] <Seveas> LaserLine, add forcedeth to /etc/modules
[11:36] <LaserLine> Seveas, I'll need to install 'nvidia-glx'  package because i have an nForce2 based mobo or is that just for nVidia graphics ?
[11:36] <phrizer> hm, when i mark something for removal, it says "To be removed: Ubuntu desktop"
[11:36] <ngmlinux> Seveas http://pastebin.com/357815
[11:36] <phrizer> whats that about? its going to kill my desktop?
[11:36] <phrizer> ;x
[11:37] <candlelight> LaserLine, I install that nvidia-glx for my nvidia graphic card
[11:37] <deFrysk> phrizer, no prob ubuntu-deskopt is a metapackage
[11:37] <deFrysk> ubuntu-desktop represents a set of packages
[11:37] <Seveas> ngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config jar
[11:37] <phrizer> oh
[11:37] <Seveas> ngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config jar.1.gz
[11:38] <twibbler> morning all.. here is an intersting ?... with a laptop you can put an external monitor on... How on Ubuntu do you have both external monitor and laptop monitor working as the ctrl f5 wont switch ?...
[11:38] <Seveas> ngmlinux: sudo update-alternatives --config rmic
[11:38] <ngmlinux> no alternatives for jar.1.gz
[11:38] <Seveas> ok, then skip that one
[11:38] <ngmlinux> ok
[11:38] <phrizer> so if i wanted to remove rhythmbox for example. it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop...
[11:39] <ngmlinux> rmic is set already correctly
[11:39] <ngmlinux> Seveas: any others
[11:39] <deFrysk> phrizer, yes for its a part of ubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <Seveas> ngmlinux, congratulations
[11:39] <Seveas> you're done.
[11:39] <ngmlinux> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
[11:39] <ngmlinux> now if I install eclipse from synaptic it will automatically use sun java?
[11:40] <Seveas> afaik it should
[11:40] <ngmlinux> nice
[11:40] <ngmlinux> wow
[11:40] <ngmlinux> that was WAY more difficult than it should have bene
[11:41] <nalioth> phrizer: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-pkg, you only need to make sure it's installed when you dist-upgrade
[11:41] <nalioth> ngmlinux: sorry i got out of my depth
[11:41] <Somada141> Stupid Question :Why when i turn into sudo with sudo -s -H in terminal mode i can't write in folders such as usr/local ?
[11:42] <ngmlinux> that's alright, at least you found someone for me that could help
[11:42] <ngmlinux> i thank you for that and your time
[11:42] <phrizer> hmm
[11:43] <deFrysk> phrizer, again its a symbolic package representing a set of packages
[11:43] <ngmlinux> by the way what does bootstrap mean as it relates to linux applications?
[11:43] <phrizer> okay cool.
[11:43] <phrizer> thanks.
[11:44] <Seveas> ngmlinux, it can mean a lot of things...
[11:44] <ngmlinux> what's it mean when there's a boostrap version of an app?
[11:44] <ngmlinux> is that like a light version?
[11:44] <Seveas> hmm, wouldn't know, i'd need some more context..
[11:44] <osfameron> Gah.  ubuntu just logged me out without warning
[11:45] <osfameron> Where can I find out why that happened?
[11:45] <nalioth> seveas just five lines for the java settings?
[11:45] <Seveas> nalioth, yup
[11:45] <Seveas> long live update-alternatives :)
[11:45] <aapelii> What is gam_server? It is using really much memory. Im using breezy...
[11:46] <osfameron> I don't have anything mapped to "Log Out" in Keyboard preferences
[11:46] <osfameron> any suggestions?
[11:46] <Seveas> aapelii, don't confuse shared memory and exclusive memory
[11:47] <ngmlinux> Seveas i have an option in Synaptic to install the boostrap version of eclipse
[11:47] <ngmlinux> any ideas??
[11:47] <Seveas> i'll check
[11:47] <ngmlinux> ecj-boostrap
[11:47] <ngmlinux> is the package name
[11:48] <Seveas> that's the eclipse java compiler
[11:48] <Seveas> i'd suggest not using that :)
[11:49] <ngmlinux> okay
[11:49] <ngmlinux> so that's an alternative to gcj?
[11:49] <ngmlinux> Seveas?
[11:49] <Seveas> yes
[11:49] <ngmlinux> ok it's not a front end for gcj though right?
[11:50] <Seveas> nope
[11:51] <ngmlinux> okay
[11:51] <thoreauputic> hahahah
[11:51] <thoreauputic> good one!
[11:52] <Gorgonzola> java should always be offtopic ;)
[11:53] <ompaul> and the words thank you never crossed the screen
[11:53] <osfameron> System Log just says "Session closed for user ..." at the time ubuntu kicked me out
[11:53] <osfameron> anyone got any suggestions as to why that happened?
[11:53] <osfameron> (On the basis that I didn't tell it to log out, and want to know why :-)
[11:53] <ompaul> take it easy, and have a nice time
[11:54] <cafuego> osfameron: it was probably time to log out anyway.
[11:55] <osfameron> cafuego: unfortunately not... late morning here :-)
[11:56] <nalioth> i hate bots
[11:56] <pravinet> how can  i remove X ?
[11:57] <cafuego> nalioth: psst, ubotu is one too
[11:57] <nalioth> cafuego: ubotu knows his place
[11:58] <cafuego> nalioth: yeah, Brisbane.
[11:58] <Seveas> !goo'boy
[11:58] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[11:59] <nalioth> Seveas: ah ha! you are related!
[11:59] <cafuego> !nalioth
[11:59] <ubotu> Mummy!
[12:00] <Seveas> rofl
[12:00] <osfameron> so, no suggestions on where to look about ubuntu randomly logging me out?
[12:00] <nalioth> ROFL
[12:00] <Seveas> osfameron, not really :|
[12:00] <osfameron> oh well
[12:00] <cafuego> osfameron: has is happened more than once?
[12:01] <osfameron> no, it's the first time, though my laptop occasionally shuts down if it gets too hot (under XP too)
[12:01] <osfameron> unlike XP, I was hoping there might be something sane in the logs
[12:01] <osfameron> hence the question :-)
[12:01] <cafuego> osfameron: *any* chance you may have accidentally clicked 'Log out' ?
[12:02] <osfameron> cafuego: I would normally say no, as I'm not that fat fingered
[12:02] <vu> I have just installed ubuntu for the first time on an old laptop IBM 380ED logged in and have the command prompt.  startx does not work...any suggestions
[12:02] <cafuego> vu: install X?
[12:02] <osfameron> on the other hand the touchpad is badly configured and does occasionally snap to bottom of screen and click, randomly
[12:02] <osfameron> but log out is at top of screen *and* in a submenu
[12:02] <osfameron> seems unlikely
[12:03] <cafuego> osfameron: Well, if it happens again i'd worry.. if not, clack it up to cosmic radiation or something ;-)
[12:03] <cafuego> s/clack/chalk/
[12:03] <osfameron> clack is good too
[12:04] <aftertaf> loool cafuego
[12:04] <cafuego> try that again and the other one goes too :-P
[12:04] <NoHope> hello all
[12:04] <aftertaf> hi hopeless
[12:05] <Seveas> cafuego, there already is only one of them left
[12:05] <NoHope> hey do you know what does [warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").]  mean? I did dist-upgrade and now upgrade and every package is returning me this error...
[12:05] <dazvid> I thought the jackson 5 sang that song?
[12:05] <dazvid> ;/
[12:05] <aftertaf> NoHope:  try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:05] <aftertaf> that helped me once
[12:05] <Seveas> dazvid, that's no reason for cafuego to not kill a beegee :)
[12:06] <dazvid> lol ! point taken
[12:06] <aftertaf> :D Seveas
[12:06] <nalioth> Seveas: i have a question. i have ibm java installed, and it isnt showing up in the --config java box
[12:06] <phrizer> rhythmbox keeps 'sticking' for a second or two every now and then while playing a mp3 ;/
[12:06] <osfameron> phrizer: yarr, me too
[12:06] <Seveas> nalioth, did you install a .deb file for it ?
[12:07] <NoHope> aftertaf, please, see the output, is it correct?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2012
[12:07] <aftertaf> osfameron:  you speaking like a pirate?? :D
[12:07] <nalioth> yes, i did (from a deb)
[12:07] <aftertaf> looking, NoHope ..
[12:07] <osfameron> aftertaf: shiver me timbers!  you be right, yarrr me hearty
[12:08] <NoHope> aftertaf, I think I will try apt-get dist-upgrade again.
[12:08] <vu> cafuego,
[12:08] <vu> df
[12:08] <aftertaf> NoHope:  not good,
[12:08] <aftertaf> i had that type of msg once
[12:08] <vu> oops sorry  ;-)
[12:08] <NoHope> why perl? is dpkg and apt-get perl scripts?
[12:09] <NoHope> s/is/are (my bad english...)
[12:09] <aftertaf> need to reset environment variables or sth like that, i never pulled it of myself
[12:09] <phrizer> osfameron, oh um cool (i guess) at least im not hearing things then.
[12:09] <phrizer> heh
[12:09] <phrizer> wonder why it does that though
[12:09] <aftertaf> osfameron:  AAARrrrrrrrrr matey p-)
[12:09] <phrizer> rather annoying.
[12:09] <osfameron> phrizer: I guess it's when CPU is busy?
[12:10] <osfameron> I wonder if you could guarantee it a certain amount of CPU or increase its priority or something?
[12:10] <NoHope> aftertaf, thank you, I will search something in the web and maybe I return to ask to the people.
[12:10] <phrizer> Hmm.
[12:10] <osfameron> seems a bit drastic.  iTunes on Win never skipped for me, so it must be possible for a music player not to do that...
[12:11] <twibbler> NoHope: try which dplkg | xargs file should give you the type of file ....
[12:11] <phrizer> when its playing though my cpu usage is normally only around 10 - 20%
[12:12] <osfameron> ah.  Sorry, I meant "arrrrrrr"
[12:13] <NoHope> twibbler, dpkg?
[12:14] <twibbler> Nohope: Dyslexia Rules ...
[12:15] <NoHope> twibbler, ???. dplkg doesn't exist and just dpkg ask for an argument.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> twibbler: shouldn't that be ysleDxia ?
[12:16] <BiSK-8> hello
[12:16] <BiSK-8> how do i copy a file on to a floppy disk?
[12:16] <cosmotroll> hello
[12:17] <BiSK-8> hello cosmotroll
[12:17] <BiSK-8> all i need 2 know is the path to a floppy disk
[12:17] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: /dev/fd0
[12:18] <BiSK-8> there is no fd0
[12:18] <BiSK-8> only fd
[12:18] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: how many floppy drives do you have?
[12:18] <bimberi> BiSK-8: has the floppy been mounted?
[12:18] <BiSK-8> 1
[12:18] <BiSK-8> no
[12:18] <Seveas> BiSK-8, you can use mcopy /path/to/file a:/
[12:18] <BiSK-8> how do i mount it then?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: no /dev/fd0 sounds a bit weird
[12:19] <Seveas> you don't need to
[12:19] <BiSK-8> u ppl r confusing me
[12:19] <BiSK-8> i put the floppy in the drive
[12:19] <BiSK-8> now from the desktop i wanna copy 3 files 2 it
[12:19] <BiSK-8> how do i?
[12:20] <Seveas> in a terminal you do: mcopy file1 file2 file3 a:\\
[12:21] <BiSK-8> bash: mcopy: command not found
[12:21] <Seveas> install the mtools package
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: not installed by  default :|
[12:21] <thoreauputic> right
[12:23] <spola> uhm ... if its anything like my desktop a floppy icon will pop up
[12:23] <spola> i just doubleclick the floppy and drag-drop
[12:24] <BiSK-8> ok
[12:24] <BiSK-8> i copied all to floppy
[12:24] <BiSK-8> now how do i see what is on the floppy?
[12:24] <twibbler> NoHope: which dpkg | xargs file lists the dpkg as a  ELF 32-bit LSB executable on my system ...
[12:25] <bimberi> BiSK-8: Places -> Computer, if there is a floppy icon, right click and select Mount
[12:26] <NoHope> twibbler, dpkg asks for an argument.
[12:26] <bimberi> BiSK-8: actually you might be able to simply double-click
[12:26] <BiSK-8> oh
[12:26] <BiSK-8> taht's why
[12:26] <BiSK-8> it's on a windows file system
[12:26] <BiSK-8> ok
[12:26] <BiSK-8> 2 format what do i do?
[12:26] <NoHope> twibbler, strange... I did dist-upgrade and I see no gtk 2.8, no gnome 2.12, no new packages.
[12:27] <BiSK-8> format a:\ ?
[12:27] <bimberi> BiSK-8: Applications -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter
[12:28] <BiSK-8> ok
[12:28] <BiSK-8> tks
[12:28] <BiSK-8> bye
[12:28] <twibbler> NoHope; weird ....
[12:28] <NoHope> any Breezy forum yet? Just Hoary and Warty?
[12:29] <moomooboy> can someone help me...
[12:29] <deFrysk> NoHope, breezy is not released yet
[12:29] <moomooboy> "Totem could not startup. - Failed to create a Gstreamer play object"
[12:30] <NoHope> deFrysk, yah... I think it's a good idea to wait, my dist-upgrade to breezy is not working well, strange...
[12:30] <deFrysk> NoHope, updated the sources.list properly ?
[12:30] <Myrtti> I'd do upgrade to B no earlier that max two weeks before the official release
[12:30] <moomooboy> i got it working last time... >< but i just reinstalled ubuntu ><
[12:30] <NoHope> deFrysk, yes, s/hoary/breezy, right?
[12:31] <Bateau_> on my mouse i have 2 extra buttons, witch works as back and forward in history in a browser (in windows) can i get it to work that way in Ubuntu as well?
[12:31] <Myrtti> btw, is B already having graphical install?
[12:31] <deFrysk> yes
[12:31] <png> i need a tool to resize my ext3 disk without loosing files?
[12:31] <moomooboy> can anyone teach me on how to fix this part??
[12:31] <deFrysk> NoHope, did you get no updates at all ?
[12:32] <Myrtti> moomooboy: surely it didn't work right out the box last time, either?
[12:32] <NoHope> deFrysk, any updates. and then I just apt-get upgrade, but I received the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2012
[12:32] <moomooboy> yeh
[12:32] <moomooboy> but i forgot how i did it :(
[12:32] <hyphenated> moomooboy: gst-register-0.8 sound familiar?
[12:32] <moomooboy> so i wanna be sure this time..
[12:32] <moomooboy> hmmm
[12:32] <moomooboy> yes i think so lol..
[12:32] <moomooboy> im suppose to type that in ?
[12:32] <deFrysk> NoHope, and then the upgrade stopped ?
[12:32] <NoHope> deFrysk, it's [dpkg-reconfigure locales]  error
[12:32] <hyphenated> as a shell command, yeah
[12:33] <deFrysk> NoHope, or did you stop it yourself ?
[12:33] <NoHope> deFrysk, It seems have downloaded everything correctly, but didn't install it.
[12:33] <NoHope> deFrysk, it stopped.
[12:33] <deFrysk> NoHope, try apt-get -f install
[12:34] <NoHope> same error...
[12:34] <deFrysk> apt-get update
[12:34] <deFrysk> and then apt-get dist-upgrade again
[12:35] <hyphenated> moomooboy: ask in the channel. I dont' read private messages
[12:35] <moomooboy> okies
[12:35] <moomooboy> well i still dont get what to do
[12:35] <moomooboy> cause im new to linux :|
[12:36] <hyphenated> and I don't get to help you, because I'm tired and going home
[12:37] <moomooboy> am i suppose to type that gst-register in the Command line?
[12:37] <Daemonic> how might I go about disabling some things I don't need during the bootup process..?
[12:37] <Myrtti> moomooboy: well don't write it in your jeans
[12:38] <Myrtti> that would be no help
[12:38] <Myrtti> YES, write it in the command line
[12:38] <Myrtti> Daemonic: root?
[12:38] <Myrtti> -.-
[12:39] <moomooboy> gst-register didnt do anything :| ?.. am i suppose to put sudo in the front?
[12:39] <Myrtti> try that
[12:39] <Daemonic> holy crap
[12:39] <dazvid> does anyone have steam working on ubuntu? I need to know if its possible before I try and do it :)
[12:39] <deFrysk> moomooboy, its gst-register-0.8
[12:39] <deFrysk> moomooboy, no sudo needed ;)
[12:40] <Myrtti> of course he would have to have the gst-thingies installed too
[12:40] <Daemonic> way too much of my memory is being used.. this is /no/ good. =\
[12:40] <png> how can i resize my ext3 disk without loosing any data?
[12:40] <deFrysk> Daemonic, linux uses your ram optimally
[12:40] <bimberi> Daemonic: a good portion will be disk cache
[12:41] <moomooboy> Thanks ^^ .. i still dont get what happened lol.. if someone could write me a explaination on what happen :P.. would appriciate it :P..
[12:41] <deFrysk> Daemonic, unused ram is wasted ram
[12:41] <moomooboy> can someone explain to me in simple terms.. how to activate packages..
[12:41] <deFrysk> moomooboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation lost of explanations
[12:41] <moomooboy> lol okok.. i guess ill stick to that
[12:42] <Daemonic> deFrysk, well, compared to the many other distros I use this one is using way too much.. I only noticed because the gnome is getting slower and the swap is being used more and more.
[12:42] <nalioth> ok i'm back
[12:42] <deFrysk> Daemonic, running java apps perhaps ?
[12:42] <moomooboy> oh oh another question..  which program can i use for linux to multidownload a file?
[12:42] <NoHope> thx people, deFrysk, I'm tring dist-upgrade again, thx.
[12:42] <Daemonic> deFrysk, negative.
[12:43] <Myrtti> multidownload?
[12:43] <deFrysk> Daemonic, run top and check what is using your swap
[12:43] <moomooboy> as in
[12:44] <moomooboy> multi connections to a website .. programs like flashget
[12:44] <deFrysk> moomooboy, a download accelarator ?
[12:44] <moomooboy> yes yes
[12:44] <Myrtti> no need for them, I think
[12:44] <Seveas> d4l perhaps moomooboy
[12:45] <moomooboy> no need for a download accelerator?
[12:45] <moomooboy> ummm then what can i use?.. to download faster?
[12:46] <Myrtti> but try Seveas's suggestion
[12:46] <moomooboy> i cant find d4l?
[12:46] <Seveas> you can't download faste than your connection speed....
[12:46] <dazvid> Seveas: but they are helpful for slow servers.. where you can get multiple connections ;)
[12:46] <Seveas> you can't download faste than the servers upload speed....
[12:46] <dazvid> I realise
[12:46] <Myrtti> not nice, that
[12:46] <moomooboy> yeh
[12:47] <nalioth> Seveas: any idears on why my java didnt show in the selections?
[12:47] <Myrtti> you're hogging the server from other users
[12:47] <Kano> hi, what unionfs system is used for the ubuntu live cd?
[12:47] <deFrysk> moomooboy, gwget is a nice downloadtool
[12:47] <moomooboy> well the server i download from allows it
[12:47] <dazvid> but if they cap the speed to a single connection, and you make multiple connections, you are going to get more
[12:47] <dazvid> Myrtti: true that
[12:47] <dazvid> Just saying that it does increase the speed
[12:47] <Seveas> dazvid, speedcaps are there for a reason
[12:47] <moomooboy> gwget thanks .. ill search that up
[12:47] <Myrtti> prevent hogging
[12:47] <Seveas> cheating around them is stupid
[12:48] <deFrysk> moomooboy, sudo apt-get install gwget
[12:48] <Myrtti> god I'm hungry
[12:48] <dazvid> Look I dont use them, I was just stating a fact :P
[12:48] <nalioth> deFrysk: gwget?
[12:48] <dazvid> i just find good mirrors nowadays
[12:49] <HiddenFly> how can i make ubuntu to do echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss every time i boot ubuntu?
[12:49] <moomooboy> Defrysk is it gwget2?
[12:49] <Seveas> add that line to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh just before exit
[12:49] <HiddenFly> ok thx
[12:53] <deFrysk> gwget is not in breezy ?
[12:53] <deFrysk> hoary i mean ?
[12:53] <deFrysk> !info gwget
[12:53] <nalioth> deFrysk: search in synaptic (pkg names and contents) for wget
[12:53] <bimberi> gwget2 is
[12:53] <deFrysk> nalioth, I have it ;)
[12:54] <deFrysk> could be gwget2 in hoary
[12:54] <deFrysk> !info gwget2
[12:54] <vanberge> how do you say "ubuntu"...?   :-)      is it you-bun-too?  or  maybe "ooh-bun-too"
[12:54] <ubotu> gwget2: (GNOME 2 wget front-end), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.7-3.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[12:54] <jon1012> hello
[12:54] <Seveas> vanberge, the latter
[12:54] <vanberge> Seveas, ty..  :-)
[12:54] <Seveas> or actuallt ooh-boon-too with all oo's as in moon
[12:54] <thoreauputic> vanberge: more or less oo-boon-too
[12:54] <deFrysk> moomooboy, its gwet2
[12:54] <moomooboy> yeh i installed it
[12:55] <jon1012> wow do much time for the next ubuntu :-/
[12:55] <moomooboy> but it doesnt have the feature of login and password :|
[12:55] <deFrysk> moomooboy, with noautilus you can download and upload to ftp servers using passwd and stuff
[12:55] <deFrysk> nautilus*
[12:56] <deFrysk> moomooboy, if you would like an ftp client try gftp
[12:56] <moomooboy> is it possible to configure firefox itself to download faster?
[12:57] <Kano> moomooboy: you can raise max. connections
[12:57] <deFrysk> moomooboy, does firefox download slow then ?
[12:58] <aftertaf> hmmm. i've just installed a new ubuntu on the LAN, i want to learn export display etc... But how do i get it to use apt sources via a http proxy? i've setup wget for proxying...
[12:58] <osfameron> !dual-monitor
[12:58] <ubotu> No idea, osfameron
[12:58] <osfameron> !dual
[12:58] <ubotu> osfameron: What?
[12:58] <osfameron> any suggestions? :-(
[12:59] <moomooboy> i dont thikn firefox is downloaded @ 10 connections to the website
[12:59] <thoreauputic> osfameron: xinerama  ? (never used it, but heard of it)
[12:59] <osfameron> thoreauputic: ta, I'll try
[01:00] <deFrysk> moomooboy, why the downloadspeed obsession ?
[01:00] <moomooboy> because i have off peak and peak for my downloads
[01:00] <moomooboy> so i wanna download @ 2am with fast speeds
[01:00] <deFrysk> moomooboy, you will download as fast as your provider lets you
[01:01] <moomooboy> yes...
[01:01] <deFrysk> moomooboy, end of story ;)
[01:01] <synic> anyone running breezy and using an sb live?  The gdm startup sound just plays over and over again...
[01:01] <moomooboy> but i cant max that speed if the website only allows 50kb a sec
[01:01] <moomooboy> for 1 connections
[01:01] <moomooboy> if i use 10 connections to 1 file
[01:01] <moomooboy> i can download @ 500kbs
[01:01] <thoreauputic> moomooboy: be a good netizen and don't leach :)
[01:01] <deFrysk> what files are you talking about ?
[01:02] <moomooboy> but i have 40 gigs for offpeak
[01:02] <moomooboy> anime files.. they are like 170mb each
[01:02] <aftertaf> moomooboy:  http://www.google.com/search?q=download%20accelerator%20linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[01:02] <thoreauputic> moomooboy: bo-one here is going to encourage you to abuse servers. End of story
[01:02] <thoreauputic> *no-one
[01:03] <deFrysk> moomooboy, just be awary that linux is faster on the web them windows ever will be ;)
[01:03] <ffx> hi all
[01:03] <moomooboy> that i know .. but i want fast :P
[01:04] <nalioth> moomooboy: use the big daddy of em all, prozilla
[01:04] <deFrysk> moomooboy, what thoreauputic said
[01:04] <thoreauputic> moomooboy: which part of that is hard to understand?
[01:04] <nalioth> moomooboy: and keep in mind you will be seriously hoggin bandwidth with that program
[01:05] <nalioth> moomooboy: you may clog yourself from anything else on the web
[01:05] <moomooboy> prozilla .. ok ill downlaod that
[01:05] <nalioth> moomooboy: use synaptic
[01:05] <nalioth> moomooboy: or apt-get
[01:05] <aftertaf> apt via proxy = create /etc/apt/apt.conf and add Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:port";
[01:06] <Myrtti> geez I love that nail polish... back to work.
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !tell moomooboy about conduct
[01:06] <thoreauputic> moomooboy: what you want is not in the spirit of Ubuntu
[01:07] <nalioth> moomooboy: so show restraint when you use prozilla
[01:07] <aftertaf> ubotu, apt-proxy is  To use apt via a Http proxy, create a new file by typing "sudo /etc/apt/apt.conf" and add this text     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://yourproxy:yourport";      then close and save the file.
[01:07] <ubotu> aftertaf: okay
[01:08] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh -I'm on dialup - bit pointless really
[01:10] <thoreauputic> OK farewell all - have fun...
[01:10] <dazvid> bye thoreauputic
[01:10] <moomooboy> how do i install prozilla
[01:11] <moomooboy> i downloaded with
[01:11] <moomooboy> Synaptic
[01:11] <Seveas> synaptic installs it
[01:11] <moomooboy> so where is it :)?
[01:11] <cosmotroll> I've successfully install this week ubuntu over 10 machines, the home directories are mounted via a nfs exported directory from a server. NIS/YP are well configured so that users can log on successfully on a machine. Before we were using kde/debian. I've decided to use only Gnome. The problem is that the new gnome session of the distributed users do not look "standard": the sessions are not the same as the default install user. For example there is no
[01:11] <cosmotroll>  automounting of usbkey or CD devices on the gnome desktop.
[01:11] <Seveas> dpkg -L prozilla
[01:12] <Seveas> cosmotroll, add all users to the plugdev etc... groups and make sure that these groups are exported over NIS
[01:13] <osfameron> hmmm, libxinerama appears to be a shared library
[01:13] <osfameron> no client in my repositories
[01:13] <cosmotroll> thanks Seveas, i'll try this
[01:13] <Seveas> by default the MIN_GID in /var/yp/Makefile is 1000, you might need to change that
[01:13] <CaiN_SA> how do i change the usplash image ?
[01:16] <wickedpuppy> in ubuntu livecd whats the password for user "ubuntu" ??
[01:16] <moomooboy> ummm seveas
[01:16] <deFrysk> wickedpuppy, <enter>
[01:16] <wickedpuppy> not disabled ?
[01:16] <moomooboy> i type in what you told me to type in
[01:17] <moomooboy> umm it extracted everything
[01:17] <deFrysk> wickedpuppy, sudo <enter>
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> one of my friends want to disable screensaver
[01:17] <moomooboy> how do i use prozilla?
[01:17] <nalioth> moomooboy: open a terminal and type "man prozilla"
[01:17] <deFrysk> moomooboy, man prozilla
[01:18] <Adross> if i'm downloading stuff from synaptic, can i turn off my comp and turn it back on later with all the downloads still be there?
[01:18] <moomooboy> thx thx
[01:19] <chrissturm> hmm, i have an acer travelmate, with hoary powermanagement worked, and now with breezy the screen stays black after wakeup
[01:19] <nalioth> Adross: apt will pick up where it left off (given the same command)
[01:19] <bimberi_> wickedpuppy: <ctrl><alt>F2 then set a password with "sudo passwd ubuntu"
[01:19] <Adross> nalioth: thanks
[01:20] <synd> nalioth: youre up early
[01:20] <No1Viking> 
[01:20] <aftertaf> wooooow
[01:20] <nalioth> synd: up? havent been asleep
[01:21] <aftertaf> i'm controlling the PC opposite me in console via ssh... for the first time ever :)
[01:21] <aftertaf> this is great :D
[01:21] <nalioth> aftertaf: ssh opens up many possibilitys
[01:21] <synd> aftertaf: congradulations
[01:21] <nalioth> aftertaf: wait until you xforward your first app
[01:21] <synd> congratulations*
[01:22] <Myrtti> aftertaf: you wanna hear something really nasty?
[01:22] <sn0n> even if he does.. i dont..
[01:22] <Myrtti> aftertaf: we run a debian server at home, and KDE on it
[01:22] <aftertaf> :)
[01:22] <sn0n> EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww
[01:22] <sn0n> im totally disgusted.
[01:22] <aftertaf> nalioth:  thats what im trying to do.....
[01:22] <aftertaf> up until today, ive never even had 2 linux boxes on the same network
[01:22] <Myrtti> aftertaf: and sometimes I have to use it and don't bother to take extra steps
[01:23] <nalioth> Myrtti: it that supposed to be like "want to hear something nasty?" "A white horse fell in the mud"
[01:23] <aftertaf> thx nalioth & synd :D
[01:23] <nalioth> aftertaf: aint but a thing
[01:23] <aftertaf> Myrtti:  and ....
[01:23] <Myrtti> aftertaf: so I run ssh to access the console, make myself root with su, then make myself the user running KDE with su user, and start xvnc
[01:23] <Gorgonzola> i haven't even had a go at setting up SSH yet... i got side-tracked once i stumbled upon Blender3d .. hehe
[01:24] <selinium> nalio0th: xforward?
[01:24] <vanberge> would it be easy to turn on color recognition using Vi with gnome-terminal?  I.e. syntax highlighting on html files
[01:24] <Myrtti> aftertaf: then I start vncclient on my computer and get the KDE screen on my gnome :->
[01:24] <Seveas> vanberge, :set syntax html
[01:24] <larsrohdin> can someone name a good imageviewer? easy to use, for just showing the next image and so on... my computer doesn't seem to like pornview
[01:24] <aftertaf> Myrtti:  you can also do this: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.....
[01:24] <aftertaf> ;)
[01:24] <mdke> can someone with a windows partition please show me their grub entry?
[01:25] <selinium> nalioth: xforward?
[01:25] <mdke> i can't get mine booted
[01:25] <nalioth> selinium: it is possible to run programs from another puter (for instance you have a 80286 that is networked, you can run x programs from another -perhaps newer/faster- box)
[01:25] <aftertaf> mdke:  check the grub.conf file
[01:25] <nalioth> larsrohdin: there's dozens of them
[01:25] <Myrtti> aftertaf: that doesn't bring the programs running on the server with it ;-)
[01:25] <vanberge> Seveas, unknown option: html
[01:25] <vanberge> :-)
[01:25] <Seveas> mdke http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2013
[01:25] <larsrohdin> nalioth, yeah i know, thats why i could use some advice.. whats your favorite
[01:26] <mdke> Seveas, merci
[01:26] <selinium> nalioth: how do you do that then?
[01:26] <osfameron> vanberge,  :set syn=html
[01:26] <aftertaf> mdke:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:26] <nalioth> larsrohdin: i'm a terminal junkie, i use feh
[01:26] <selinium> hi Seveas
[01:26] <aftertaf> ohh. Seveas hehe ok
[01:26] <aftertaf> Myrtti:  true.....
[01:26] <nalioth> selinium: not sure, i have to ask uncle google every time i do it
[01:26] <Seveas> vanberge, sorry it's :syntax on
[01:26] <mdke> aftertaf, you didn't read my question!
[01:26] <nalioth> selinium: but it's quite simple
[01:26] <aftertaf> i did....
[01:26] <larsrohdin> nalioth, yeah i have feh, but can you go to next picture and stuff like that with it?
[01:27] <Seveas> I have that in my vimrc so I tend to forget it :)
[01:27] <cacoph0ny> hi all
[01:27] <aftertaf> but Seveas got there b4 me
[01:27] <cosmotroll> Seveas, how do i add my users to the plugdev group. the line in my etc/passwd for my users is: +@fyma::0:0:::/bin/bash. And in the /etc/group: +
[01:27] <selinium> nalioth, lol cheers, i will have a look!
[01:27] <nalioth> larsrohdin: via the keyboard or mouse
[01:27] <cacoph0ny> how do i format a single drive in ubuntu
[01:27] <cacoph0ny> as i only have one hard drive
[01:27] <vanberge> Seveas, is there an easy way to do that permanently?
[01:27] <vanberge> that did work
[01:27] <nalioth> larsrohdin: i like feh, cuz you can make it as complex or as simple as you like in an alias
[01:27] <Seveas> cosmotroll, make sure that on the NIS server they are added to that group and that that froup is exported (use ypcat group to check this)
[01:28] <larsrohdin> nalioth, ok... i check up on that... can you make slideshows and stuff like that?
[01:28] <nalioth> larsrohdin: yessir, i have a slideshow using feh as on of my aliases
[01:28] <synic> where's the new menu editor in gnome 2.12?
[01:28] <larsrohdin> nalioth, ok thanks alot, ill give feh another try
[01:28] <CaiN_SA> guys
[01:28] <CaiN_SA> how can i change the image usplash uses
[01:28] <nalioth> larsrohdin: or an executable .sh in my /usr/local/bin (i cant remember)
[01:29] <Seveas> synic, rightclick on the menu
[01:29] <deFrysk> synic, sudo apt-get install smeg
[01:29] <Seveas> you can launch it from there
[01:29] <deFrysk> wow Seveas thats cool :)
[01:30] <synic> nifty
[01:30] <deFrysk> synic, indeed
[01:30] <deFrysk> its soo easy you would almost miss it
[01:30] <synic> is there a way to add new items to it?
[01:31] <deFrysk> synic, new entry button
[01:31] <synic> don't have one
[01:31] <deFrysk> synic, at the bottom of smeg
[01:31] <reiki> must.....wait.....for.....breezy.....must ....not....be....tempted.....
[01:31] <aftertaf> reiki:  zen dude :)
[01:32] <reiki> indeed
[01:32] <Seveas> yinnnnnnnnnnn
[01:32] <aftertaf> Cho Ku Rei
[01:32] <Seveas> yannnnngggggg
[01:32] <Myrtti> reiki: come to the bright side
[01:32] <reiki> Hon Sha Ze Sho Nen
[01:32] <Napasik> What is the command for starting a .EXE file ? aMule for instance
[01:32] <Myrtti> /me flashes boobies for reiki
[01:32] <Myrtti> come come
[01:32] <aftertaf> Napasik:  and Exe file???
[01:32] <deFrysk> that means I am on the dark side ?
[01:32] <reiki> that I don't mind
[01:32] <reiki> :)
[01:32] <Myrtti> don't be tempted by Breezy
[01:32] <Seveas> Napasik, .exe files are for windows
[01:32] <synic> deFrysk: what other kind of groovy voodoo does the new gnome have?
[01:32] <aftertaf> Myrtti:  hmmmm
[01:32] <Napasik> I know
[01:32] <Seveas> synic, www.gnome.org/~davyd/
[01:33] <deFrysk> synic, evince
[01:33] <Napasik> But I downloaded a file that were for both Windows AND Linux
[01:33] <Seveas> synic, www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12 (that one is better)
[01:34] <Gorgonzola> I'm not very experienced with linux, but you can't have a binary file that is compatible with both linux and windows without modification can you?
[01:34] <Fred|Fr3d> Gorgonzola: no
[01:34] <nalioth> Myrtti: red-billed or blue-winged?
[01:34] <cosmotroll> Seveas, for the MINGID. do i set this to the froup ID of my users?
[01:34] <Napasik> so i need a .tar.gz or something ?
[01:35] <Gorgonzola> Napasik, if its a windows .exe... you can't run it
[01:35] <Napasik> Weo, found a tar.gz  : )
[01:35] <cosmotroll> Seveas, forget my last comment, i do not have access to the master nis server
[01:36] <Myrtti> nalioth: I'm lost
[01:36] <reiki> actually... this whole experiment of mine is to see if Ubuntu desktop can replace WinXP for "normal" users. Office apps, web browsing, email, listen to CDs, burn CDs, stuff like that. So far so good. today marks 3 weeks on Ubuntu without booting WinXP for anything.
[01:37] <nalioth> Myrtti: there are blue-winged and red-beaked boobies in the wilds. which variety do you show?
[01:37] <vanberge> did any of you guys ever play that legend of the red dragon game?  it was a terminal game on bbs's
[01:37] <Myrtti> the latter I guess
[01:37] <aftertaf> reiki:  nice one
[01:38] <reiki> getting sound working reliably has been a little bumpy and that's a concern. I'm hoping Breezy has that all straightened out. But for the most part I'm determined to stay with default installations for testing. Most users can't compile or modify linux stuff. So things have to work
[01:38] <Myrtti> who needs compiling
[01:38] <Myrtti> when theres apt
[01:38] <cosmotroll> Seaveas, is there other special groups such my users have sufficient or standard acces as the user install?
[01:39] <nalioth> apt is your friend
[01:39] <reiki> Myrtii: true... that's why I want to only test stuff that's available pretty much by default. If we have to apt-get additional things that's fine. Those instructions would be very easy. It just has to work as expected when they do it. And right now it actually does
[01:40] <aftertaf> nalioth:  apt is a super cow :D
[01:40] <Myrtti> reiki: I've compiled only a few times and almost everytime I've gotten only troubles
[01:40] <Myrtti> compiling means you have to have dependencies fixed
[01:40] <aftertaf> !tell Napasik about repos
[01:40] <Myrtti> and that's really a bummer
[01:41] <reiki> Myrtii: same here when I compiled a "new" gimp-print driver to try and get my Epson R200 able to print directly on CD media. I ended up buying the TurboPrint drivers. They're very nice
[01:42] <aftertaf> OMG... i've just xforwarded synaptic :D
[01:42] <Myrtti> because if some software has to be compiled, it also means that it's so new it hasn't been released as a package. Programmers usually use bleeding-edge versions of everything, so you also have to have everything updated. And THEN that means trouble.
[01:42] <aftertaf> wow
[01:42] <Myrtti> like my recent mistake of wanting the latest gnubiff
[01:42] <Myrtti> tho I f***ed that up just putting debian/unstable on sources.list ;-P
[01:43] <Myrtti> BIG MISTAKE!
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> hahah
[01:43] <Myrtti> aftertaf: congrats
[01:43] <aftertaf> yeahhhhhhh
[01:43] <reiki> I also have one final hurdle I'm not sure I'm ready for. I need to see if there's a Lightspeed client for linux for accessing a Wang through a lightspeed gateway
[01:43] <reiki> that might just not be available
[01:44] <aftertaf> ssh -X me@distant.pc
[01:44] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:44] <Myrtti> whats that
[01:44] <reiki> what's what?
[01:45] <BlueEagle> that
[01:45] <osfameron> how can I check what IP address I've been assigned by DHCP ?
[01:45] <Myrtti> lightspeed
[01:45] <reiki> ack! time to make a lunch and go to work
[01:45] <Myrtti> osfameron: ifconfig
[01:45] <BlueEagle> osfameron: ifconfig will show it
[01:46] <osfameron> Myrtti, BlueEagle: thanks :-)
[01:46] <osfameron> can I also check what name I'm known under on the network ?
[01:46] <reiki> Myrtii: Lightspeed is a client app for accessing a Wang system. We use a lightspeed terminal on WinXP currently. I'm not sure ANYTHING can talk to a Wang without a gateway which means I'll need a similar terminal app in linux to make this work
[01:46] <osfameron> hostname just gives me localhost.localdomain when I ask for fqdn
[01:46] <BlueEagle> osfameron: hostname dnsdomain name or samba name?
[01:46] <reiki> gotta run... I'll log back on from work in a bit
[01:46] <Myrtti> reiki: allright
[01:47] <osfameron> BlueEagle: I think dns name.  as in I'd expect okabi.worknetworkname.workname.com
[01:47] <osfameron> but that doesn't ping
[01:47] <BlueEagle> osfameron: Well to set that you need to tell your dns that you (the ip) are that machine
[01:48] <Napasik> Doh, how do i get the <<asdasd-AT-hotmail.com>> ?
[01:48] <osfameron> BlueEagle: ah, I though 'twas magic - on XP I just had okabi.... registered automatically
[01:48] <BlueEagle> osfameron: Unless the dns server knows a name for the ip you have got the other machines probably don't know about it either.
[01:49] <BlueEagle> napasik: Where? What? Why do you want a hotmail.com adress?
[01:49] <Napasik> Ahh, never mind ;P @@@
[01:49] <Napasik> :)
[01:49] <Gorgonzola> does Evolution have a button to show images in a html email (like thunderbird has) ?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> osfameron: I assume you're not trying to access the microsoft file and printer sharing network then.
[01:50] <cosmotroll> where can i find a description of the groups listed in the /etc/group file?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: There really aren't any descriptions of them as far as I know. Most of them are self explanatory tbh.
[01:52] <osfameron> BlueEagle: well, we do have one of those too... but mainly I'm trying to work out how to scp something from dev linux server to my machine
[01:52] <kemik> osfameron:  scp ip:/path/file localfile
[01:52] <kemik> or reverse
[01:53] <cosmotroll> BlueEagle: not so clear for me ;-): adm to administrate to computer, in which sense?, dialout? cdrom, floppy?
[01:53] <osfameron> kemik: ta, also interested to know how I register my name on the network though :-)
[01:53] <cosmotroll> dip? audio?
[01:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there anyway I can upgrade to GNOME 2.12?
[01:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> Using apt-get
[01:54] <cosmotroll> video? lpadmin? scanner, admin?
[01:54] <kemik> osfameron:  what sortof network ?
[01:55] <vladuz976> anybody know a good file sharing program?
[01:55] <osfameron> kemik: bah, it's a heterogenous network of Linux, Win, Mac.  I guess I'm best off asking the Systems guys eh? :-)
[01:55] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: adm or admin to be allowed to sudo, cdrom to be able to access (mount) cd-roms and such, dialout to be able to access modem (ie. dial out) floppy to be able to mount floppies, audio to be able to hear sounds, video to be able to access hardware video accelleration.. anything else?
[01:55] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: Much of this has got to do with group settings in the /dev directory
[01:55] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: Try ls -l /dev
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> Could someone suggest to me some alternatives to gnome, that will run well on a system with very low spec (48mb ram, 233 pentium I)
[01:56] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: That will show you that many devices has got particular groups and g+rw attributes set
[01:56] <BlueEagle> lunar_lamp: xfce and icewm
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks BlueEagle - i'll take a look
[01:57] <peterretief> hello all
[01:57] <Carpe_Libertatem> Are there any packages to upgrade to GNOME 2.12 out yet for Ubuntu?
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> Lunar_Lamp, try xfce or fluxbox
[01:57] <BlueEagle> fluxbox is also nice, but requires some more setup.
[01:57] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: breezy will have 2.12
[01:57] <peterretief> I cant seem to find what installs brctl, help help
[01:57] <Napasik> Gosh, im soooooooooo fed up, cant even get a program to start T_T
[01:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> nalioth: I have to wait for Breezy? =P
[01:58] <hypn0> will alsa be default in breezy
[01:58] <peterretief> to install brctl
[01:58] <peterretief> ?
[01:58] <deFrysk> hyp
[01:59] <Alex_BO> peterretief: can you explain it better?
[01:59] <deFrysk> hypn0, oss is depreciated in 2.6x kernels
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> whast the command to check the gnome version?
[02:00] <cosmotroll> BlueEagle: for example, i'm not in the plugdev group but i'm allowed to mount usbkey, but i'm not allow to automount usbkey (such thatit appears automatically on the gnome desktop)
[02:00] <peterretief> Alex_BO: sorry ya, its the bridge controller
[02:00] <hypn0> maybe its just my sound card :-)
[02:01] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: Which device is that? in the /dev tree
[02:01] <Alex_BO> peterretief, it's a program, isn't it? and you would like to see what files it has installed
[02:01] <deFrysk> hypn0, I do know breezy supports more soundcards (newer alsa-version)
[02:02] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: It might be that automount uses groups to determine what is automounted, but that's a feature I'm not familiar with since I haven't used automount much before and never set it up manually.
[02:02] <peterretief> Alex_BO: cant find it with apt-get install or apt-cache search
[02:03] <BlueEagle> peterretief: Which program was that again?
[02:03] <Napasik> Do I need VNC to run aMule ?
[02:03] <peterretief> brctl
[02:03] <Alex_BO> peterretief: have you got an AMD64?
[02:03] <peterretief> intel
[02:04] <Alex_BO> peterretief: if you write $ apt-cache search [program's name] , what does it say? nothing found?
[02:04] <cosmotroll> BlueEagle: brw-r-----  1 root plugdev   8,   0 2005-09-08 11:24 sda
[02:04] <cosmotroll> brw-r-----  1 root plugdev   8,   1 2005-09-08 11:24 sda1
[02:05] <peterretief> want to add an ethernet card to a wireless bridge, like"brctl addif br0 eth1"
[02:06] <peterretief> yes i tried apt-cache search, might be a kernel thing
[02:06] <Alex_BO> i am not a guru of these things... if brctl is a program try to search sources
[02:07] <BlueEagle> cosmotroll: As far as I can see root will be able to read and write it (and mount it read/write) and plugdev members shouls be able to read it and mount it read only. Then again I might be mistaking. :)
[02:07] <Alcohol> Is there also a Dutch Ubuntu channel or?
[02:07] <deFrysk> Alcohol, /j #ubuntu-nl
[02:07] <mattyJ> do i need atd, cron, and anacron running? what are all 3 for, dont they do the same thing?
[02:07] <aftertaf> no route to host .. boo
[02:08] <BlueEagle> peterretief: apt-cache search ebtables
[02:08] <Alex_BO> BlueEagle: is it that?
[02:09] <peterretief> whats an ebtable?
[02:09] <Alex_BO> peterretief: i have found it
[02:09] <peterretief> Alex_BO: ?
[02:10] <Alex_BO> peterretief: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=brctl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386
[02:10] <peterretief> MY HERO
[02:10] <Alex_BO> sorry all for the posted link, i know that's not correct
[02:10] <Alex_BO> the next time i will post in pv
[02:10] <BlueEagle> peterretief: Either it's ebtables or bridge-utils
[02:10] <Alex_BO> peterretief: :-)
[02:11] <peterretief> BlueEagle: Alex_BO thansk
[02:11] <Alex_BO> peterretief: no problems.one of the forces of linux is its community
[02:11] <gbyron> hey all
[02:12] <dazvid> hi gbyron
[02:12] <Alex_BO> gbyron: hey boy
[02:12] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, im completely new to linux, and i've just installed fluxbox via synaptic manager, however i see no evidence of anything being any different - do i need to run it somehow? it said all changes had been applied, but it looks, and seems to run, in an identical manner.  what have i not done?
[02:13] <gbyron> Lunar_Lamp : look at the version number
[02:13] <CaiN_SA> yes Lunar_Lamp
[02:13] <gbyron> if it's changed your in the new version
[02:13] <CaiN_SA> logout
[02:13] <CaiN_SA> go to gdm
[02:13] <CaiN_SA> and by session
[02:13] <Muhammad> Hello
[02:13] <CaiN_SA> choose fluxbox
[02:13] <Muhammad> I want to make video tutorials
[02:13] <Lunar_Lamp> ah - CaiN_SA - ofc! thanks a lot! i knew it would be something simple!
[02:13] <Muhammad> what program shall i use ?
[02:14] <BlueEagle> muhammad: google? :)
[02:14] <CaiN_SA> gbyron, reed the Q before answering
[02:14] <Muhammad> No
[02:14] <Muhammad> I want it for ubuntu
[02:14] <Muhammad> so must be exact program !~
[02:14] <Frafra> hi all
[02:14] <aftertaf> w000000000t
[02:15] <gbyron> anyone know what the deal is with xorg fonts ? how do i get xorg back up and running in breezy
[02:15] <Frafra> checking for X11/XKBlib.h... yes
[02:15] <Frafra> configure: error: *** cannot find X11 development files
[02:15] <Myrtti> FFS
[02:15] <Frafra> what i should install?
[02:15] <dazvid> Frafra: what do you want do ?
[02:15] <Frafra> dazvid: I'm doing a ./configure
[02:15] <Muhammad> anyone ?
[02:15] <Muhammad> whats the progam for video tutorial ?
[02:15] <CaiN_SA> Lunar_Lamp, its a pleasure
[02:16] <Alex_BO> Muhammad: sorry, i don't know of them
[02:16] <Muhammad> anybody else ?
[02:16] <Muhammad> to make videos ?
[02:16] <BlueEagle> muhammad: http://www.google.com/search?q=screen+recorder+linux
[02:16] <Alex_BO> Muhammad: don't incist.try with google
[02:17] <Muhammad> http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ -- > not for ubuntu ?
[02:18] <BlueEagle> muhammad: If it works in linux it works in ubuntu.
[02:18] <Muhammad> all linux progam works in ubuntu ?
[02:18] <sml> hey
[02:19] <nalioth> Frafra: install "xlibs-dev"
[02:19] <sml> my breezy kubuntu just froze! how can i check what caused the problem?
[02:19] <BlueEagle> muhammad: Since ubuntu is a linux distribution, all (bar some obscure) linux programs will work in ubuntu linux.
[02:19] <Alex_BO> Muhammad: of course
[02:19] <Frafra> nalioth: I've installed it, but the error is the same
[02:20] <nalioth> Frafra: what exactly is the error (dont paste in here)
[02:20] <BlueEagle> muhammad: http://www.jars.com/multimedia/3D/resource.php/30727 looks usable.
[02:21] <Muhammad> do you guys got the latest news about paypal ?
[02:21] <sml> what is that?
[02:21] <BlueEagle> muhammad: What latest news?
[02:21] <dazvid> www.paypal.com ?
[02:21] <Muhammad> let me link
[02:21] <aftertaf>  # paypal?
[02:21] <Muhammad> it's an awful news :(
[02:21] <Frafra> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6RoJQE10.html
[02:22] <sml> what?
[02:22] <aftertaf> they've been renamed rent-a-friend ??
[02:22] <Muhammad> http://www.webdtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=35&view=getnewpost -- this is the news !
[02:24] <Frafra> nalioth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6RoJQE10.html
[02:24] <sml> can anyone help pinpoint why my system just locked up with breezy?
[02:25] <nalioth> Frafra: try x-window-system-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[02:25] <Alex_BO> sml, can you explain better?
[02:25] <synic> sml: on startup?
[02:25] <Muhammad> did you guys read ? that is awful .. isint it ?
[02:25] <sml> no .. i was just using konqueror for half an hour .. all ok ... then BAM ... no movement on pointer. nothing worked.
[02:26] <sml> Alex_BO synic ... i am using the kubuntu breezy updates from about 24 hrs ago.
[02:26] <nalioth> sml: i have the same problem in hoary, what exactly were you doing?
[02:26] <Alex_BO> sml: maybe a bug.try to reboot your computer and signal the bug at Konqueror's developers
[02:27] <sml> nalioth .... just surfing the net .. i dont even think there were any fancy flash pages or anything like that. I had a few tabs open.
[02:28] <nalioth> sml: hmmm konqueror is suspicious in my book, too (for my lockups)
[02:28] <sml> Alex_BO ... I dont have any information to give them though .. are there any logs I can check?
[02:28] <Muhammad> will these http://linux.softpedia.com/ programs work on ubuntu ?
[02:28] <nalioth> sml: so much so, i've not been using anything that calls kio_slave
[02:28] <WhiteRabbit> why would sml reboot just because of knoq?
[02:28] <synic> Muhammad: sure
[02:28] <Alex_BO> sml: well...i don't have kubuntu, i prefer gnome
[02:28] <nalioth> WhiteRabbit: if his system is locked solid, he aint got much choice
[02:29] <synic> Muhammad: which one in particular are you looking at?
[02:29] <sml> WhiteRabbit ... i had to reboot because everything was frozen/locked
[02:29] <WhiteRabbit> so he cant ctrl alt F3 for a console
[02:29] <nalioth> Alex_BO: i prefer konqueror as a file mangler
[02:29] <WhiteRabbit> nor can he ctrl alt backspace?
[02:29] <sml> nalioth ... what is kio_slave?
[02:29] <nalioth> sml: it's the backend of KDE (everything kde is tied together with it
[02:29] <BlueEagle> muhammad: Yes, however I would recomend you find .deb or source packages (.tar.gz or .tar.bz2)
[02:29] <WhiteRabbit> synic, chatjunkies ;)~
[02:29] <Alex_BO> nalioth, well... i prefer the terminal. the file managers are some problems like these
[02:29] <vu> Whats su - root command in ubuntu language?
[02:29] <sml> WhiteRabbit .. didn't try another console .. tried the ctrl-alt-bsp
[02:30] <nalioth> vu sudo
[02:30] <synic> WhiteRabbit: whoa - wait, you're not from undernet?
[02:30] <nalioth> ubotu tell vu about cli
[02:30] <Muhammad> well i am looking for screen recoder programs
[02:30] <WhiteRabbit> synic, I dont belive so
[02:30] <jono> does anyone know if someone is working on a wine gtk theme?
[02:30] <sml> hmmm .. oh well guys ... I might just keep updating and hopefully it goes away.
[02:30] <synic> WhiteRabbit: weird.  I know a WhiteRabbit from undernet... even weirder, you still know who I am.
[02:30] <WhiteRabbit> synic, but your from chatjunkies I belive
[02:31] <synic> indeed I am
[02:31] <WhiteRabbit> synic, op of #linuxhelp
[02:31] <WhiteRabbit> ;)~
[02:31] <vu> nalioth,  Thanks!
[02:31] <WhiteRabbit> so you changed over from debian to ubuntu I see
[02:31] <synic> yeah
[02:31] <synic> on the workstations anyway
[02:32] <WhiteRabbit> synic, whats fieldysnuts gonna say about this!
[02:32] <synic> lol... I forgot about him
[02:32] <WhiteRabbit> count bass EE even
[02:32] <chombee> Hey - just installed the new colony. I have a couple of questions - what will happen if I enable the additional repositories? Are there Breezy versions of universe, multiverse etc already? will updates up to the official release be affected at all if I enable the repositories?
[02:33] <Muhammad> :(
[02:33] <Muhammad> no one is helping me :(
[02:34] <WhiteRabbit> must be the name
[02:34] <DewDude> has anyone built nvu from source?
[02:34] <Alex_BO> Muhammad: what's the matter?
[02:34] <endy_x> Muhammad, you're logged in as root again?
[02:34] <Muhammad> I am switching to windows :(
[02:35] <nalioth> DewDude: yes i have
[02:35] <nalioth> Muhammad: dont do that
[02:35] <DewDude> nalioth: so it'll build on ubuntu?
[02:35] <nalioth> DewDude: yessir, i built it on my ubuntu ppc
[02:35] <DewDude> cuz someone told me they weren't able to compile mot things
[02:35] <DewDude> ahh
[02:35] <DewDude> got any tips
[02:35] <DewDude> i'm also building it for ubuntu ppc
[02:35] <nalioth> DewDude: i've also built if for clients running ubuntu i386
[02:36] <chombee> Muhammad - what is your trouble?
[02:36] <nalioth> DewDude: follow the instructions on the homepage of it
[02:36] <DewDude> ok
[02:36] <DewDude> i mean...i read those...i basically have to edit a config and make
[02:36] <chrissturm> i find it always very funny when people in linux channels threaten to switch to windows
[02:36] <DewDude> i was just wonderinfg if you had any other tips
[02:36] <DewDude> heh, i could switch to windows
[02:36] <DewDude> hehehehehehehehehe
[02:37] <DewDude> although, havng to mice on the same mouse pad gets confusing
[02:37] <DewDude> two
[02:37] <Red_Bullet> !xfce4
[02:37] <ubotu> Red_Bullet: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:37] <nalioth> DewDude: get a kvm, lose a monitor, a mouse and a keyboard
[02:37] <nalioth> !info xfce4
[02:37] <Red_Bullet> !xfce
[02:37] <ubotu> I guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:37] <DewDude> well
[02:37] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[02:37] <DewDude> for starters
[02:38] <Red_Bullet> oo yes
[02:38] <Red_Bullet> :)
[02:38] <DewDude> it's an imac
[02:38] <DewDude> so
[02:38] <DewDude> KVM would do me no good
[02:38] <DewDude> i don't think they make KVM's for USB devices
[02:38] <nalioth> DewDude: you could lose the extra mouse/kb (i have an imac also, kvm'd)
[02:38] <vir--> any gnome 2.12 package yet?
[02:38] <Hoxzer> DewDude: what mp3 player you use?
[02:39] <DewDude> Hoxzer, the one on my PC
[02:39] <nalioth> DewDude: yes they do, my kvm is usb/video/audio
[02:39] <DewDude> yeah, but
[02:39] <Hoxzer> DewDube: and that one is?=
[02:39] <DewDude> the imac lacks an external montior port
[02:39] <DewDude> Winamp
[02:39] <Hoxzer> :E
[02:39] <Hoxzer> is there winamp for ubuntu?
[02:39] <DewDude> no
[02:39] <DewDude> i have a WinXP machine for music
[02:39] <dazvid> Hoxzer: the closest thing to it is XMMS
[02:39] <endy_x> Hoxzer, xmms or beep-media-player
[02:39] <Hoxzer> :X sucks
[02:39] <nalioth> Hoxzer: use xmms, it's clone brother
[02:39] <chombee> Hoxzer - beep-media-player is essentially Winamp for Ubuntu
[02:39] <DewDude> XMMS is about the same as winamp
[02:40] <Hoxzer> dazvid: yeah it looks very much like it
[02:40] <DewDude> even uses winamp classic skins
[02:40] <dazvid> Even the menus are the same
[02:40] <chombee> Hoxzer - don't use XMMS, Beep Media Player is just XMMS but nicer looking
[02:40] <DewDude> i just found the ALSA support for the audigy2 was crap
[02:40] <Hoxzer> ok...
[02:40] <nalioth> well folks, past my bedtime
[02:40] <dazvid> DewDude: nope
[02:40] <dazvid> I have an audigy 2
[02:40] <dazvid> and it works fine
[02:40] <kaouete> hi
[02:40] <nalioth> DewDude: have fun with nvu
[02:40] <DewDude> it is for what I want
[02:40] <occy> I'm trying to follow this guide:   http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414     and it says to install linux headers.
[02:40] <dazvid> nalioth: nighty night
[02:40] <endy_x> only problem with beep-media-player is it's slow on loading large playlists.
[02:40] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: How are you, how did the resizing in installation go? Did you loose any data?
[02:41] <nalioth> DewDude: remember: it's a product of linspire
[02:41] <occy> how can I find out what linux-headers I need for my currently running kernel?
[02:41] <DewDude> i know
[02:41] <DewDude> i'm aware
[02:41] <DewDude> i'm still download source
[02:41] <DewDude> slow-ass DSL :(
[02:41] <chombee> endy_x personally, I use muine, but I keep bmp for when I just want to play a file that is not part of my music collection
[02:41] <Hoxzer> Onkar: it got fine expect for some reason windows XP wouldn't start when I made a partion
[02:42] <BlueEagle> occy: synaptic will show you. If you're running the i386 kernel you want the i386 headers iirc
[02:42] <Hoxzer> so I installed other XP to new partion
[02:42] <BlueEagle> occy: If you run the i686 kernel you would want the i686 headers
[02:42] <Hoxzer> then the old one worked
[02:42] <DewDude> dazvid, i had an audigy 2 under ArchLinux last year....yes, it worked fine...however..i do a lot of audio production, and i do it in DVD-audio quality..and the Linux apps i tried not only didn't do what i wanted..but didn't support 96/24
[02:42] <BlueEagle> occy: search for header in synaptic.
[02:42] <DewDude> hence why i have a windows machine around for audio/music
[02:42] <kaouete> i have a problem with totem/gstreamer : i got an image with highly too much luminosity, if i change the output video driver with gstreamer-properties it is ok but the image is not really good
[02:42] <dazvid> aaah ok
[02:42] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: Your partitioning must have changed partition table for the drive. That's how you got stuck.
[02:43] <Hoxzer> and then I just removed new partion wich had windows XP in it and installed ubuntu ot it
[02:43] <occy> heh I got it.
[02:43] <occy> I did uname -a
[02:43] <occy> and then just looked at the output of apt-get install linux-headers
[02:43] <occy> BlueEagle, danke though ;)
[02:43] <Hoxzer> nkar: but now the problem is that I can't just start windows XP from Grub but I have to start windows XP loader
[02:43] <DewDude> nal: huh?
[02:43] <BlueEagle> occy: Well, there you go. Four more seconds of trying before asking would have saved me from opening synaptic and verifying it. :)
[02:44] <Hoxzer> and then I have choose wich windows I want to start and I dont even have the other one installed anymore
[02:44] <BlueEagle> hoxzer: Use Windows XP to remove the redundant (or rather useless) entry.
[02:44] <nexus-> does anyone know if there's a openssh specific thing that makes a solaris box unable to set locale properly?
[02:45] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: Hey that seems to be XP loaders problem.
[02:45] <chombee> Hey - Breezy: the current release has GNOME 2.12 but still has Eye of Gnome and apparently no PDF reader installed by default? Is the final release going to get rid of eog too and add Evince to the default? Is it still going to use Gthumb or move to f-spot?
[02:45] <suschman_> good morning. does anyone runs amule here on ubuntu ? it does connect but status of files is waiting all the time
[02:45] <BlueEagle> hoxzer: It's in the control panel -> system -> advanced tab somwhere.
[02:45] <nexus-> when i ssh from windows (using ssh2 client from ssh.com) it works perfectly
[02:45] <BlueEagle> nexus-: ssh uses the local locale on the remote system.
[02:45] <onkarshinde> chombee: And why do you want eog to be removed?
[02:46] <vu> After the initial reboot after the install I noticed the system could not connect to the repository. Does it mean it is partially installe?
[02:46] <chombee> suschman_ that might just be the peer to peer network itself - you're waiting for a download. P2P sucks now from what I know
[02:46] <vu> d
[02:46] <nexus-> BlueEagle, hmmm okay
[02:46] <nexus-> darn if i could get the locale string for windows now
[02:46] <chombee> onkarshinde - I just thought that GNOME 2.12 replaced eog and PDF viewers with Evince
[02:46] <suschman_> chombee: hehe, i know. but not half a day now... on windows this stuff worked here quite well
[02:47] <chombee> suschman_ you ran amule on Windows? amule ios gnutella, right?
[02:47] <suschman_> i ran emule there
[02:47] <BlueEagle> nexus-: Well, you'll find that in control panel under ehh.. god knows what they call it. It's where you choose languages. How the windows ssh2 client uses it I do not know. I've only used putty from windows.
[02:47] <LaserLine> If I want to install Ubuntu while keeping my WindowsXP Installation, what do I have to do ? it's 80GB HD, Drive C is Windows, Drive D (was windows) but now it's clear space and Drive E is Windows Swap and temp file drive... So I have an empty space of about 17GB........... Glad for some help
[02:47] <onkarshinde> chombee: AFAIK, Evince just replaces Ghostview and gpdf
[02:47] <nexus-> i used the GUI to enable eth0, but it is not activated when i boot up
[02:48] <nexus-> do i need to fiddle with some startup scripts?
[02:48] <chombee> suschman_ isn't emule edonkey and amule gnutella? different networks.
[02:48] <suschman_> nop, amule is emule ported to gtk/linux
[02:48] <Napasik> Anyone have any idea why LimeWire wont start ?
[02:48] <Auriacan> i'm having problems installing the JDK onto ubuntu
[02:48] <onkarshinde> vu: You have to enable (uncomment) repositories /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <chombee> suschman_ maybe checkout the ubuntu wiki for filesharing info, I'd look something up for you but my PC is slow right now
[02:49] <suschman_> ok i look there
[02:49] <chombee> Napasik - run limewire from a terminal and see what error it gives you
[02:49] <BlueEagle> laserline: Choose to manage partitions yourself and create a /home partition of like 5 GB then /boot of 100 mb and the rest for /
[02:49] <nexus-> BlueEagle, do you have access to a solaris box? :P
[02:49] <BlueEagle> laserline: You can also use the entire 17 GB for /, but I recomend having atleast a separate /home to maintain user settings.
[02:49] <BlueEagle> nexus-: No.
[02:49] <vu> onkarshinde,  Man if this is friendly there is no joe or pico or emacs installed and this is a fresh install.
[02:50] <LaserLine> BlueEagle, what swap for 1GB ram ?
[02:50] <buntu> so does Ubuntu have gnome 2.12 yet?
[02:50] <chombee> suschman_ Filesharing Peer-to-peer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing?highlight=%28filesharing%29
[02:50] <nexus-> BlueEagle, where do i set the locale on ubuntu?
[02:50] <buntu> I see Foresight have released 0.9 today that has 2.12 and it rocks!
[02:50] <BlueEagle> laserline: Ahh, yes. You would want swap. I have got a 2GB swap partition but you will easily manage without one if you don't want to set it up.
[02:50] <chombee> buntu - the current development release of Ubuntu Breezy does
[02:51] <onkarshinde> vu: Use vi
[02:51] <buntu> chombee but a stable release?
[02:51] <sleon> hi all
[02:51] <sleon> :))
[02:51] <sleon> i hear
[02:51] <buntu> I don't understand why Foresight have just released a kick ass stable Ubuntu
[02:51] <buntu> sorry
[02:51] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - in the partition manager (ubuntu installation) there are questions of yes andnow, for booting partition - what to choose ?
[02:51] <buntu> a kick ass stable Gnome 2.12 release
[02:51] <buntu> and Ubuntu have to wait a month
[02:51] <buntu> why are they making us wait? :(
[02:52] <BlueEagle> nexus-: It's where you choose languages afaik. However I had trouble changing from the default locale after installing only english. Gave me crap about no_NO.UTF-8 not being found.
[02:52] <nexus-> hmm
[02:52] <BlueEagle> laserline: I assume you're setting the bootloader on the MBR so you can choose no on bootable.
[02:52] <nexus-> i need to check the locales for solaris
[02:52] <nexus-> its probably not compatible with the one set in ubuntu :(
[02:53] <BlueEagle> nexus-: type locale
[02:53] <sleon> year
[02:53] <LaserLine> BlueEagle how do i setuo the bootloader on the mbr ?
[02:53] <chombee> buntu - the Ubuntu release cycle has fixed release dates. The official preview release of Breezy should be out in a matter of days, that'll be pretty stable, otherwise use the Hoary release and install GNOME 2.12, it might be in backports
[02:53] <sleon> give us gnome 2.12
[02:53] <BlueEagle> laserline: It does so by default.
[02:53] <BlueEagle> (it = the installer)
[02:53] <sleon> give us well integrated gnome 2.12
[02:53] <sleon> :D
[02:53] <onkarshinde> buntu: What do you like more? Problems created due to not so tested distro or a stable distro with one month waiting?
[02:53] <LaserLine> LaserLine - so i choose no ?
[02:53] <WhiteRabbit> IT Staf would = The Installer Staff
[02:53] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - that was meant for you - LoL :-)
[02:53] <buntu> chombee I'm actually playing with Foresight right now - it seems really polished. Beagle and hal/udev work a LOT better than they do on my warty box :(
[02:54] <WhiteRabbit> sounds rather retarded dont it!..
[02:54] <nexus-> $ locale
[02:54] <nexus-> LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_CTYPE="C"
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_NUMERIC="C"
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_TIME="C"
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_COLLATE="C"
[02:54] <BlueEagle> laserline: Yes, you do not need to mark your / or /boot partition as bootable.
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_MONETARY="C"
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_MESSAGES="C"
[02:54] <nexus-> LC_ALL=
[02:54] <paulproteus|lapt> buntu: foresight?
[02:54] <nexus-> ooops
[02:54] <nexus-> sorry
[02:54] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - when i wiped my laptop
[02:54] <WhiteRabbit> just past us your entire kernel config file why dont cha hehe
[02:55] <buntu> paulproteus|lapt yeah foresight - I noticed them on distrowatch today - apparently it's a cutting edge gnome distro
[02:55] <BlueEagle> laserline: That is unless you are going to chainload bootloaders, but if you don't know what that is you're not going to do it yet.. :)
[02:55] <chombee> buntu - that's not surprising, Warty is pretty old. Hopefully the Ubuntu Breezy versions will be just as good
[02:55] <buntu> I hope so :(
[02:55] <paulproteus|lapt> buntu: Oh, interesting.
[02:55] <DewDude>  bleh
[02:55] <LaserLine> BlueEagle when i wiped my laptop's HD I installed clean ubuntu with no windows, and chose manuelly, I made 2 partitiones - one for '/' and one for 'swap' I chose yes for '/' was that necassery or was a mistake ?
[02:56] <BlueEagle> laserline: It really does not matter.
[02:56] <chombee> Isn't foresight indeed as a preview of the latest cool stuff, not as a distro you'd actually use?
[02:56] <nexus-> does breezy support wpa out of the box?
[02:56] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - there was a reason for the setting, right ?
[02:56] <chombee> what's wpa?
[02:56] <onkarshinde> nexus-: What is wpa?
[02:56] <nexus-> wireless protected access
[02:57] <BlueEagle> laserline: However I would recomend using a separate /home partition if you're going to change distros at a later time or need to re-install due to some obscure corruption or big mistake. :)
[02:57] <buntu> chombee no clue - works nice though
[02:57] <chombee> nexus - I don't know, but I would assume so, wpa is an open standard right?
[02:58] <chombee> buntu - is it a LiveCD or an install?
[02:58] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - ok, what happens if I buy another drive, and have one HD for Windows and one for Linux (ubuntu) - the settings are the same ?
[02:58] <buntu> chombee install
[02:58] <nexus-> chombee, yes
[02:58] <BlueEagle> laserline: It is for chainloading bootloaders. You can have one bootloader on the mbr that loads a bootloader on ie. /dev/hda4 and you can even have that bootloader run a bootloader on /dev/hda5. To have those bootloaders chainloaded you need to have bootable partitions if I remember correctly.
[02:58] <nexus-> linux world tend to get wireless slow slow though :\
[02:58] <chombee> buntu - I'm running GNOME 2.12 on the Breezy dev version right now, it's pretty stable, though it doesn't look like they have all of GNOME 2.12 by default yet
[02:59] <chombee> nexus- you could search for it on the web, but I expect it will work. You could probably find out using an Ubuntu livecd to test it
[02:59] <BlueEagle> laserline: You need to setup grub to boot windows. However windows writes to the MBR without asking so you will need to re-install grub on it.
[02:59] <elvirolo> hi all
[02:59] <onkarshinde> elvirolo: Hi
[02:59] <Hoxzer> how can I create shortcut to directory
[02:59] <Napasik> Where do I find AUDIO codecs for Totem ?
[03:00] <BlueEagle> hoxzer: ln
[03:00] <BlueEagle> hoxzer: man ln to see the syntax
[03:00] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - I already have windows, so installing ubuntu on it will make an windows value on the MBr >
[03:00] <deFrysk> Napasik, install totem-xine
[03:00] <Napasik> kk,ty
[03:00] <deFrysk> Napasik, and install w32codecs
[03:00] <chombee> Hoxzer - right-click on a folder and choose 'Make Link'. In Linux shortcuts are called Links
[03:00] <BlueEagle> laserline: Yes, the ubuntu installer automatically detects that windows is already installed and makes an entry for it in the grub boot loader.
[03:01] <nexus-> chombee, is there a livecd for breezy?
[03:01] <Hoxzer> Chombee: for some reason I can't create it :E
[03:01] <grantashman_> hey all
[03:01] <weerobby> I thought breezy was not out yet
[03:01] <nexus-> chombee, wpasupplicant binaries for debian are broken and i found that out after 3 weeks cracking my head
[03:01] <chombee> nexus- yeah there is, find a link to it in a recent distrowatch entry dostrowatch.com
[03:01] <LaserLine> BlueEagle - so what i understand - "Don't change the Bootflag Option..."
[03:02] <nexus-> so im too lazy to compile wpasupplicant now
[03:02] <chombee> Hoxzer - what happens? Do you have right permissions for the folder you are in?
[03:02] <nexus-> will wait for breezy and hopefully laptop support will improve
[03:02] <aftertaf> weird..... i can no longer see the other PC on the same lan :/
[03:02] <grantashman_> do any of you guys use XFCE4?
[03:02] <BlueEagle> laserline: Don't cange it unless you know that you need to. If you don't know that you need to do it then you don't need to do it. :)
[03:02] <weerobby> nexus hoary seems to have some good loaptop stupport
[03:02] <chombee> grantashman_ I used it once before
[03:03] <aftertaf> nasty Zin habit, rebooting.... :/
[03:03] <onkarshinde> nexus-: Which laptop are you using?
[03:03] <LaserLine> BleaEagle - That;s 110% right.......
[03:03] <BlueEagle> grantashman_: I've used it a while ago.
[03:03] <nexus-> weerobby, doesn't support hibernation and wpa
[03:03] <BlueEagle> grantashman_: Are  you running a poll?
[03:03] <nexus-> onkarshinde, dell inspiron 8600
[03:03] <Hoxzer> chombee: "make a link" txt is just gray
[03:03] <grantashman_> BlueEagle: No i was looking for some information on configuring the default filemanger/desktop
[03:04] <elvirolo> i'd like X to start up with a resolution of 1280x960 ... but i can't go higher than 1024x768 ... here's my xorg.cong : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2014 (i use breezy)
[03:04] <BlueEagle> grantashman_: Then why didn't you ask if anyone knew how to configure the default filemanager/desktop in xfce4?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> ;)
[03:04] <grantashman_> shhhh :)
[03:04] <chombee> Hoxzer - try right-clicking on the folder you're linking to and looking at the permissions (under properties), do the same with the containing folder, do you have all the permissions for both folders?
[03:05] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[03:05] <grantashman_> I'm a linux n00b. must say, ubuntu is very nice.
[03:05] <bloodnik> Hi, I've got my wireless card set up as ra0 -- I installed raconfig and all that -- and it decided today that it wanted to connect to the internet, but I can only use it for HTTP
[03:05] <BlueEagle> grantashman_: I'm not all that new to linux, and I must say that ubuntu is suprisingly well designed.
[03:06] <grantashman_> I've been floating around trying out different distros, so far ive used Knoppix but could never keep my install working for more than a week or two.
[03:06] <bloodnik> I've had to plug in the ethernet to get IRC working
[03:06] <chombee> elvirolo - maybe re-run the X configuration, anyone remember the command?
[03:06] <wastrel> bloodnik, that sounds like a problem with your wireless access point not your system
[03:06] <grantashman_> and my wifi would never stay working, had to use Ndiswrapper and change all the init.d scripts. to load it at boot.
[03:06] <LaserLine> BlueEagle and if i get a new drive, one for windows and another HD for ubuntu,  and I want to keep 3GB from everydrive alone, so that on the ubuntu drive i'll have windows' swap and on windows drive i'll have ubuntu's swap... - what should I do then ??
[03:06] <elvirolo> chombee: it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and i already did it :-D
[03:06] <wastrel> bloodnik, whose AP are you connecting to?
[03:07] <bloodnik> My own.
[03:07] <bloodnik> Everyone else is using it fine ... in Windows.
[03:07] <grantashman_> BlueEagle: in comparison to Knoppix, i'm surprised at the stability and speed of it. + the community seems terrific.
[03:07] <Hoxzer> Chombee: im owner of the folders
[03:07] <nexus-> grantashman_, looks better too :P
[03:07] <chombee> Hoxzer - okay youre owner, does owner have write permissions on the folders?
[03:07] <nexus-> this is probably the first time i'm using gnome
[03:08] <wastrel> bloodnik, hmm. . :] 
[03:08] <nexus-> i usually switch to kde first thing if it was a gnome based distro (e.g. fedora)
[03:08] <Napasik> Can anyone explain to me step by step how to innstall codec? ;o
[03:08] <meta> !umount
[03:08] <ubotu> meta: No idea
[03:08] <meta> !unmount
[03:08] <ubotu> meta: I give up, what is it?
[03:08] <wastrel> bloodnik, do you have a proxy server for http?  it may be that you aren't getting DNS info from dhcp when you connect wireles so yo ucan't resolve
[03:08] <bloodnik> The card worked when it was just set up to use WEP, but since I installed raconfig and tried to get it using WPA it's been a bugger.
[03:08] <Alex_BO> Napasik: what kind of codec?
[03:08] <wastrel> bloodnik, but the proxy server is working for http
[03:09] <bloodnik> yeah it's just a standard router
[03:09] <Hoxzer> Chombee: I was able to create link by root
[03:09] <grantashman_> nexus: Ubuntu + Gnome is very clean. if it wasn't for my rather lowend system i'd most likely convert to it. I'm using XFCE4 right now. with clearlooks.
[03:09] <grantashman_> almost copying Gnome ;)
[03:09] <Alex_BO> Napasik: well...i've just installed ffmpeg
[03:09] <Seveas> !forget kaffeine
[03:09] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot kaffeine
[03:09] <BlueEagle> laserline: Well, the trick comes when you install windows on the new harddrive. It will write to the MBR of /dev/hda (or sda for sata and scsi) and you would need to re-install grub manually. As for the setup you just alter your /etc/fstab in linux and set up the partitions needed in windows. I would recomend using something like partition magic in windows for manipulating partitions as it can handle ntfs, vfat and ext* partitions.
[03:09] <chombee> Napasik - look for it on yhe Ubuntu wiki. You are probably better off using MPlayer, Xine or VLC than trying to install codecs for Totem. I've never found Totem worked very well on Ubuntu
[03:09] <Seveas> !forget modem
[03:09] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot modem
[03:09] <meta> Why does linux insist of locking up on scratched DVDs? why can't it just say "ok there is a huge scratch, lets stop trying to read the disk"
[03:09] <grantashman_> apt-get install w32codecs?
[03:09] <nexus-> grantashman_, ah.. never had the time to fiddle with WMs ;)
[03:09] <Alex_BO> Napasik: what have you to do?
[03:09] <mik3> Seveas
[03:09] <mik3> Seveas : are you here Mr. Man?
[03:09] <onkarshinde> Napasik: this is for you
[03:09] <Seveas> no, this is just my ghost :)
[03:09] <onkarshinde> !codecs
[03:09] <ubotu> methinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <mik3> wkaka!
[03:10] <mik3> i fixed it
[03:10] <mik3> hahahha!
[03:10] <nexus-> there is noone on solaris :(
[03:10] <nexus-> #solaris that is
[03:10] <mik3> you know what the resolution was? changing all http://archive.* addresses to ftp://archive.*
[03:10] <grantashman_> nexus: never had time? haha
[03:10] <BlueEagle> meta: That sounds like a designflaw in automount afaik. If you try to mount it manually you can abort with ctrl+c. (just a guess)
[03:10] <Napasik> Alex_BO, cant make my mp3 work ( need code or player ) dl VLC but wont srat
[03:10] <nexus-> grantashman_, well sort of :P
[03:10] <Napasik> Alex_BO, cant make my mp3 work ( need code or player ) dl VLC but wont start*
[03:11] <Seveas> mik3, :|
[03:11] <onkarshinde> Napasik: You need a gstreamer plugin named mikmod
[03:11] <mik3> isn't that ridiculous?
[03:11] <chombee> Napasik - you need to install the package gstreamer0.8-plugins to play mp3s
[03:11] <Seveas> it is
[03:11] <mik3> Zimmerman thinks it's a new bug
[03:11] <onkarshinde> Napasik: Read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:11] <buntu> onkarshinde mikmod is for mod files not mp3s
[03:11] <grantashman_> can anyone tell me is there any speed differences between Hoary and an apt-get update'd' version of Breezy?
[03:12] <mik3> Seveas : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469
[03:12] <chrissturm> breezy is faster
[03:12] <chombee> chrissturm - how much faster?
[03:12] <grantashman_> noticeby faster?
[03:12] <onkarshinde> buntu: Sorry it was gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:12] <rajeevpn> NooB to IRC - Have some problems installing ubuntu on an acer laptop. Could someone pl look at my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62914
[03:12] <chrissturm> i think it depends on your hardware config
[03:12] <meta> How do I stop hald polling my scratched DVD and let me unmount it?
[03:13] <meta> even a kill -9 as root doesn't work
[03:13] <deFrysk> chrissturm, not faster then ?
[03:13] <Napasik> onkarshinde, how do i accquire them ? command
[03:13] <chombee> So... napasik... install gstreamer0.8-plugins, that will give you all the plugins for GNOME media programs, including mp3 support
[03:13] <grantashman_> I'm running hoary on 700mhz + 128mb ram using XFCE4 without gnome. would you recommend the update?
[03:13] <chombee> napasik - use Synaptic Package Manager to install it
[03:13] <onkarshinde> Napasik: Just read this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <Napasik> oh, okey ty
[03:14] <mik3> anyone here use bitchx? i need to learn how to change my /whois information, like how mine says michael.
[03:15] <chombee> Napasikl - there are various other packages for restricted codecs, find info on the RestrictedFormats page of the Ubuntu wiki, but the one I mentioned will do for mp3.
[03:15] <nexus-> how do i add a shortcut in Applications?
[03:15] <chombee> nexus- in the Applications menu?
[03:15] <deFrysk> nexus-, install smeg
[03:15] <nickrud> meta, try killall gam_server
[03:15] <deFrysk> and use that for it
[03:16] <nexus-> alright
[03:16] <meta> nickrud - a umount -l and then an eject got it, after it chewed on it for a couple of mins, will prolly lock up again, so I will try gam_sever when it does. heh, ty
[03:16] <nexus-> is it in ubuntu repos?
[03:16] <nexus-> can't find it
[03:17] <chombee> nexus- I think it's in universe if you're using Hoary. Do you have universe enabled? It's installed by default in Breezy
[03:17] <deFrysk> ! smeg
[03:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:18] <mik3> how do you change user account information?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> How do I make nautilus use gmplayer instead of totem?
[03:20] <nexus-> chombee, i have universe enabled on hoary
[03:20] <bole> Hi! I have just installed ubuntu 5.04 but obviously I have missed to set root password. Can anybody help me what do I have to do? Is there any default root password if I have missed to put it?
[03:20] <buntu> meta I've been playing with pmount in the foresight 0.9 I downloaded - it works really really nice! It handles pulling mounted media out very well
[03:20] <mik3> how do you change user account information?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> bole: Use sudo instead of setting the root password and logging in as root
[03:20] <BlueEagle> bole: That also got me the 1st time I installed :)
[03:20] <chombee> bole - there is no root account in Ubuntu, use sudo with your normal user password
[03:20] <mik3> bole: use sudo -s
[03:21] <nickrud> BlueEagle, right click a movie, properties, open with
[03:21] <chombee> sudo - run a command as root, gksudo run a GUI app as root, append sudo or gksudo to the start of the command
[03:21] <BlueEagle> bole: however the sudo scheme makes me stay logged in as root much more seldom and is actually "a good idea"(tm)
[03:21] <bole> thanx I'll try to do that
[03:21] <BlueEagle> thanks nickrud
[03:21] <deFrysk> BlueEagle, I think if you rightclick a soundfile , choose properties , you van use the open with tab to set it to another player
[03:21] <nexus-> BlueEagle, su -c makes you stay even shorter ;0
[03:22] <nickrud> mik3, from the top menu, system->admin->users & groups
[03:22] <nexus-> bole, read https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RootSudo
[03:22] <meta> buntu - sounds interesting, it's been a problem for a long time now. I have been wanting to try foresight too, looks interesting.
[03:22] <mik3> nickrud : and how do you do it without a GUI interface, i.e. where is this information kept, how do you rehash it, etc
[03:23] <nickrud> mik3, usermod from the command line
[03:23] <mik3> thanks, that's what i was looking for.
[03:23] <buntu> meta they integrated it with hal / dbus / g-v-m so when you insert media or a cd-rom, it pmounts it by default... pmount apparently supports mounting as a user without modifying the fstab
[03:24] <meta> buntu - sounds awesome
[03:24] <BlueEagle> nexus-: How is su -c different (in functionality) from sudo?
[03:24] <Red_Bullet> please tell me how to start tv-out on my g-force 4
[03:24] <Seveas> su needs root password - sudo your own
[03:24] <chombee> Bah! With Breezy they've messed with Nautilus again! Now the navigational browser is default, and the spatial browser leaves all the old windows open again, can this be changed?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> nexus-: My guess is that it asks for the root password instead of the user password.
[03:25] <Red_Bullet> please help me
[03:25] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: So, you want to view your desktop on your TV, huh?
[03:25] <Red_Bullet> yeah
[03:26] <mik3> why doesn't usermod have a flag for changin real name ?
[03:26] <GNU-GPL> right
[03:26] <GNU-GPL> i'm in too
[03:26] <Red_Bullet> BlueEagle,  can you help me
[03:26] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add an entry for your TV (type monitor) and an entry for your graphics boards TV-out and a screen that uses the TV with the graphics cards TV out.
[03:26] <mik3> Red_Bullet : what's your question
[03:26] <rajeevpn> Folks: am tryin to install ubuntu in Acer laptop and have this problem: When it tries to detect and mount CD-ROM, it says No common CDROM was detected
[03:27] <DVSoftware> BlueEagle: i think that you just confused him more now
[03:27] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: I even think nvidia has got some tools for that, but don't quote me on that. :)
[03:27] <Red_Bullet> BlueEagle,  i can't i try but i broke xorg :((
[03:27] <rajeevpn> it's not a CD problem / it's not drive prob - was able to install Debian
[03:27] <nexus-> hmm
[03:27] <mik3> why doesn't usermod have a flag for changin real name ?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: No, you didn't break xorg. You just messed up your xorg.conf. Just copy the backup you made over the xorg.conf you've got now and try again.
[03:27] <Red_Bullet> mik3,  my question is how to start tv-out with g-force 4
[03:27] <nexus-> is there no decent GUI for sftp?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: you DID make a backup, didn't you?
[03:28] <synic> mik3: have you tried irssi ?  You can set your real name in it.
[03:28] <Red_Bullet> BlueEagle,  i repair xorg.conf and now i am with X
[03:28] <rajeevpn> some fora talked about some conflict with SATA and advised change in BIOS and afaik have IDE and BIOS dosen't lemme chg
[03:28] <Truth> hey
[03:28] <Red_Bullet> but i can't edit xorg
[03:28] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: Good, then you can google for nvidia linux tv
[03:28] <Truth> please tell the command to install compilers
[03:28] <Red_Bullet> please give me working xorg.conf
[03:28] <synic> rajeevpn: what version of ubuntu?  I know warty wouldn't install on my external - nor would any of the livecds work
[03:28] <rajeevpn> 5.04
[03:28] <synic> Truth: why do you need a compiler?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> Linux: Tutorial: NVIDIA TV-out Tiny HOW-TO http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//librenix.com/%3Finode%3D950&ei=jTwgQ6PzCZroQbn-ocUK
[03:29] <Truth> for eggdrop
[03:29] <rajeevpn> on an Acer 4151 NLCi
[03:29] <Truth> and things like that
[03:29] <Truth> and manyother things
[03:29] <Seveas> Truth, eggdrop is in the repositories too
[03:29] <synic> Truth: you can install all of those through apt.  You don't need to compile them.
[03:29] <DVSoftware> Red_Bullet: here http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> e.g. compiling sources
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:29] <Truth> k
[03:29] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :D
[03:30] <synic> GNU-GPL: most people don't need to be compiling sources.
[03:30] <BlueEagle> red_bullet: I think you've misuderstood. Linux is an operating system for people that know how to read and think. :)
[03:30] <DVSoftware> BlueEagle: lol, i haven't noticed that you pasted same
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> synic, i know..
[03:30] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> SOMEONE HELP MEH :D
[03:30] <garnett> hello
[03:30] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i just got Ubuntu installed
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> h4x0r2damh4x0r, mehehehehehehe
[03:30] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> lol
[03:30] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ok
[03:30] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> im still newb
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> so i need someone to guide me
[03:31] <garnett> hello
[03:31] <GNU-GPL> h4x0r2damh4x0r, ok..
[03:31] <garnett> h................
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> uh
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> k
[03:31] <GNU-GPL> hi garnett
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i have
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i downloaded WinAmp
[03:31] <garnett> hi gnu-gpl
[03:31] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, it would help if you state your question
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> but its a .rpm
[03:31] <BlueEagle> actually http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread seems better for you red_bullet
[03:31] <h17m4n> that's not the appropriate saying
[03:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> so how do i install it?
[03:31] <Seveas> and that you don't use newlines as punctuation
[03:31] <h17m4n> ALIEN
[03:31] <h17m4n> !alien
[03:31] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[03:31] <Seveas> winamp?
[03:31] <Seveas> linux isn't windows
[03:32] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i know
[03:32] <Seveas> ditch winamp and use beep-media-player if you want something that looks like winamp and can take winamp skins
[03:32] <h17m4n> Ubuntu has XMMS, which is like winamp
[03:32] <nexus-> winamp sound quality blows though ;)
[03:32] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> are you guys bots?
[03:32] <endy_x> lol
[03:32] <garnett> writing colour changeing where
[03:32] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> you sound like bots
[03:32] <kemik> h4x0r2damh4x0r:  we're not
[03:32] <DVSoftware> h4x0r2damh4x0r: winamp for linux???
[03:32] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> >__<
[03:32] <GNU-GPL> i didn't know that nullsoft released a linux version
[03:32] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ok pwn me
[03:32] <kemik> afaik ubotu is the only bot in here
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> yes there is
[03:33] <endy_x> it sucks
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> its Beta
[03:33] <DVSoftware> i know that only some crappy winamp3 alpha
[03:33] <GNU-GPL> give me a dl link
[03:33] <DVSoftware> not even beta
[03:33] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[03:33] <DVSoftware> was "released"
[03:33] <garnett> gnu
[03:33] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r,  don't use newlines as punctuation
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> oh.
[03:33] <DVSoftware> and it works like shit
[03:33] <garnett>  whatwriting colour
[03:33] <Hoxzer> :D
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ____
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :D
[03:33] <Hoxzer> ,....
[03:33] <GNU-GPL> cut it out!
[03:33] <garnett> gnu
[03:33] <Hoxzer> tell me babe
[03:33] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:33] <kaptaink> how can i mount an ext3 partition through the console?
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ok
[03:33] <synic> h4x0r2damh4x0r: apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:33] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how do i get themes?
[03:34] <Hoxzer> can somebody advice me with UBCD
[03:34] <Seveas> kaptaink, mount -t ext3 /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint
[03:34] <synic> and you can download themes for beep from winamp.com
[03:34] <garnett> gnu join # room
[03:34] <kaptaink> with all permissions?
[03:34] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, you can use winamp themes...
[03:34] <GNU-GPL> kaptaink, yes
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:34] <GNU-GPL> (default)
[03:34] <endy_x> h4x0r2damh4x0r, winamp 2.x theme
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> Reading package lists... Done
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> h4x0r@cm93:~$
[03:34] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> h4x0r@cm93:~$
[03:34] <Seveas> NEVER PASTE IN HERE
[03:34] <kaptaink> thankyou
[03:35] <BlueEagle> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r repos
[03:35] <BlueEagle> invalid target?
[03:35] <GNU-GPL> c/p is lame
[03:35] <BlueEagle> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r repositories
[03:35] <freediod> !tell
[03:35] <emiliospanish> buenas a todos
[03:35] <BlueEagle> !tell
[03:35] <DVSoftware> !repositories
[03:35] <ubotu> repositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:35] <Seveas> don't play with the bot!
[03:35] <BlueEagle> thankyou dvsoftware :)
[03:35] <DVSoftware> No problem
[03:36] <Hoxzer> :E
[03:36] <DVSoftware> BlueEagle: !tell nick about something
[03:36] <garnett> hey gnu
[03:36] <garnett> hey gnu
[03:36] <garnett> hey gnu
[03:36] <garnett> hey gnu
[03:36] <garnett> hey gnu
[03:36] <grantashman_> ...
[03:36] <BlueEagle> dvsoftware: ahh, ofcourse. I forgot about. :)
[03:36] <freediod> !tell me about cc
[03:36] <BlueEagle> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about repositories
[03:36] <h17m4n> h4x0r2damh4x0r: paste in #flood, and refer to it from here.... people willing to help will look at it and help you from here
[03:37] <h17m4n> hmmm I'm a noob
[03:37] <h17m4n> but I'll get winex installed
[03:37] <h17m4n> to play AoE 3 :)
[03:37] <h17m4n> demo that is
[03:38] <mik3> =D
[03:38] <[A] ndy80> hi
[03:38] <mik3> hi
[03:38] <WhiteRabbit> hallo
[03:38] <WhiteRabbit> I need a medic
[03:38] <[A] ndy80> I'm reading this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is it available for Ubuntu Breezy too?
[03:39] <mik3> the only medical assistance we supply is atrapene/tupan chloride
[03:39] <garnett> white rabbit hi
[03:39] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, which part of that are you refering to?
[03:39] <Hoxzer> Tell me some software that can resize partions?
[03:39] <garnett> hi
[03:39] <garnett> hoxzer
[03:39] <mik3> Hoxzer : qtparted
[03:39] <Hoxzer> :E damn it I use ubuntu Install CD soon
[03:39] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: in particular the repository urls
[03:39] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, ext3 reiserfs LVM etc..?
[03:40] <Seveas> Hoxzer, fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, qparted, gparted, parted, partition magic....
[03:40] <Hoxzer> does UBCD has those?
[03:40] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, you can use them on breezy...
[03:40] <h17m4n> Ubuntu needs a better partitioner for the installation. The one that comes with it is not the easiest one...
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: thanks
[03:40] <nexus-> ubuntu needs something like anaconda at least ;)
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> its mad easy if you allow it to be
[03:40] <mik3> h17m4n : i doubt ubuntu wants to COMPLETELY eliminate the thought process.
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> your just used to something else is all
[03:40] <Seveas> nexus-, thank god that they don't use that crud
[03:40] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: It's pretty identical to windows XPs partitioning tool isn't it?
[03:41] <h4x0rr> :D
[03:41] <h4x0rr> ok
[03:41] <nexus-> Seveas,  its a pita to install loads of unwanted packages though
[03:41] <h4x0rr> so can anyone tell me how to install the player?
[03:41] <h4x0rr> i can
[03:41] <BlueEagle> s/identical/similar/
[03:41] <h17m4n> not to me
[03:41] <h4x0rr> i can't play mp3 files
[03:41] <Seveas> h4x0rr, don't evade bans
[03:41] <Seveas> !mp3
[03:41] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:41] <h4x0rr> ok sorry
[03:41] <WhiteRabbit> you named is beyond yourself I see
[03:42] <BlueEagle> whiterabbit: Good call. :)
[03:42] <h17m4n> it doesn't have like a walk through that allows you to create a new partition.... the only choice you have for walking thru is to format the whole drive...
[03:42] <WhiteRabbit> the partitioner will allow pretty much what any linux partitioner would
[03:42] <WhiteRabbit> its robust
[03:42] <garnett> hiiii
[03:43] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :
[03:43] <h17m4n> yeah but noobs would get stuck on it
[03:43] <garnett> how are you
[03:43] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how do i get the player you guys told me about earlier on?
[03:43] <WhiteRabbit> if it scares ya just use cfdisk
[03:43] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, enable universe
[03:43] <Quinthius> h17m4n: believem e the partitioner is MUCH more n00b-friendly than fdisk...
[03:43] <Seveas> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about repositories
[03:43] <h17m4n> I think that the biggest reason joesixpacks dont move to linux is because it's not that easy to install
[03:43] <WhiteRabbit> you must allow the multiverse to touch your system
[03:43] <Seveas> h17m4n, that's not true
[03:44] <Seveas> Ubuntu is dead-easy to install
[03:44] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> cool
[03:44] <h17m4n> it was
[03:44] <Auriacan> has anyone here sucessfuly installed JDK on ubuntu??
[03:44] <WhiteRabbit> so easy even a dead man could do it
[03:44] <Seveas> the ubuntu partitioner is no harder than the windows one
[03:44] <Seveas> and for Breezy it has even been improved...
[03:44] <h17m4n> after I booted to windows, partitioned with PM and installed it
[03:44] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: Actually, this happened to me when guiding two noobs trough the install. I was typing down like five lines on how to partition, and just as I pressed enter they wrote to me: "Ok, I've made a /boot 100 mb, /home 15GB and a / partition. Is that OK?" and I really could not disagree.
[03:44] <Hoxzer> strange... :E
[03:44] <WhiteRabbit> Auriacan, just install to opt then link it up & make a link to your browser plugin factory
[03:45] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: Well, actually the one only made a 10GB home, but that's not really the point.
[03:45] <WhiteRabbit> you dont need the /boot unless your on a old mb
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> lol
[03:45] <Hoxzer> im trying to resize partion but seems like ubuntu install CD could not regonsize how much space I have left
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i guess Linux isn't for me
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> thanks anyway
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> bye guys
[03:45] <mik3> linux is incredibly easy to install h17m4n
[03:45] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, Come on now
[03:45] <Auriacan> link it up?
[03:45] <Quinthius> WhiteRabbit: or using lvm..
[03:45] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, are you really that easy to give up
[03:45] <mik3> i associate the ease of ubuntu more than windows 2k
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i've been trying since 10
[03:45] <h17m4n> I didn't even know what partitions it needed in order to install
[03:45] <Quinthius> WhiteRabbit: or raid, most likely
[03:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> and nows its 9:43
[03:45] <BlueEagle> whiterabbit: Actually it's a good idea to have a separate /boot if you are trying out several distros. That way you've got all your kernels in one place.
[03:46] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, you know you wanna learn this stuff stay with us keep trying
[03:46] <h17m4n> so I just made 1 ext3 and installed it there
[03:46] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i wanna install themes,
[03:46] <bole> ok guys I'm still confused with this SUDO stuff. How do I use it? I have installed ubuntu and now I want to run Add/Remove programs and it asks me for a root password. What do I do then?
[03:46] <h17m4n> after 3 days I saw that swap was eating away the ram
[03:46] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> play window games
[03:46] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> play MP3
[03:46] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :/
[03:46] <chombee> bole - enter your normal password
[03:46] <GNU-GPL> bole, enter the pass
[03:46] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:46] <h17m4n> and someone here told me to make a swap file/partition... then I found out I needed it
[03:46] <WhiteRabbit> everyone has a idea of partitioning ;)~
[03:47] <Quinthius> bole: type in your password, not root's...
[03:47] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: You don't need more than one / partition, however I recomend having a /boot and a /home aswell. If you ever want to try a different distro you can use the same kernel (in all but a few cases) and you keep user settings.
[03:47] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, first off think about it like this
[03:47] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, for 2 weeks your not gonna do a whole lot of what you want until you learn the system basics
[03:47] <h17m4n> if you don't read a how to or a linux article before installing it, it's not so easy
[03:47] <WhiteRabbit> give it 2 solid weeks of learning & playing then install the games
[03:47] <WhiteRabbit> you can play mp3's right now with a slight of hand
[03:48] <WhiteRabbit> !mp3
[03:48] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:48] <Auriacan> WhiteRabbit, mind giving me an explination of "link it up"?
[03:48] <bole> I have done that but it says "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"
[03:48] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> whiterabbit
[03:48] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i don't know how
[03:48] <h17m4n> BlueEagle: What is the boot one for?
[03:48] <garnett> hi
[03:48] <garnett> h17
[03:48] <h17m4n> hi
[03:48] <DVSoftware> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about mp3
[03:48] <Sebischn> hi
[03:48] <garnett> hi
[03:48] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: That will keep your kernel safe (if and when you roll your own) between distro installations.
[03:49] <garnett> sebischn how are you
[03:49] <nlogax> WhiteRabbit I'd love to do the LPI exams!  tell us more
[03:49] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> yay
[03:49] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> okay tell me now
[03:49] <Sebischn> is garnett a bot ? :D
[03:49] <garnett> sktr
[03:50] <Sebischn> I'm fine, how about you ?
[03:50] <h17m4n> BlueEagle: and could be just 100 megs? It'd be better having it before the ext3 one right?
[03:50] <GNU-GPL> Sebischn, why do you think that??
[03:50] <Sebischn> o0
[03:50] <bole> so what do I do now?
[03:50] <BlueEagle> h4x0r2damh4x0r: By now you have got to have noticed the url: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and I really hope you have figured out that mp3 is such a restricted format.
[03:50] <mastertet> Hi all
[03:50] <GNU-GPL> bole, i don't know what you know and what not :P
[03:50] <garnett> hi
[03:50] <mastertet> some of you have tried breezy?
[03:50] <moomooboy> hey can someone teach me how to use prozilla
[03:50] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> someone
[03:50] <WhiteRabbit> nlogax, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/201.html?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=LPIGR&ca=dgr-lnxw07LPI
[03:51] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> I went there
[03:51] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, have you added any extra repos just yet
[03:51] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> so i can't play MP3s?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: 100 mb is plenty. It doesn't matter where it is unless you are using old hardware. I always put /boot on /dev/sda1 (hd0,0)
[03:51] <bole> I have put my normal pass and I got error msg: "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"
[03:51] <garnett> hello
[03:51] <GNU-GPL> h4x0r2damh4x0r, check the unofficial ubuntuguide
[03:51] <GNU-GPL> it's all there
[03:51] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[03:51] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i think i did
[03:51] <BlueEagle> h4x0r2damh4x0r: You can if you read the god damned url that everyone is pasting to you and follow the instructions there!!!!
[03:51] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[03:51] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[03:51] <Seveas> GNU-GPL, ^--
[03:51] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ..
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <Sebischn> I've installed python 2.4.1 and tried to run IDLE. But the shell is putting out this error message : ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **. How can I solve this problem ?
[03:51] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, omg READ dude
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <garnett> hi
[03:51] <BlueEagle> bye garnett
[03:52] <Seveas> garnett, fuckoff
[03:52] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, we sent you the url to the howto 5 times now
[03:52] <Seveas> read it!
[03:52] <h17m4n> BlueEalge: Thx I will look forward to creating one later. Thocere's some command that will move the kernell and there and mount it right?
[03:53] <GNU-GPL> Seveas, i didn't know that u-bu-ntug-uide (otherwise the bot reacts again) was that bad
[03:53] <mastertet> Can someone tell me if there is improvments in speed area in Breezy (boottime, snapier desktop, ...)???
[03:53] <Sebischn> I think someone knows what this fricking problem is about :D
[03:53] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, is now on the ubuntuguide program for the next 2 weeks then he will be reinstalling with some know how lol
[03:53] <Seveas> GNU-GPL, the bot only reacts on things prefixed with a ! or its nickname
[03:53] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: Well, move what's in /boot now to ie. /boot.bacup and mount the new partition to /boot and move the stuff back.
[03:54] <h17m4n> BlueEagle: cool thanks
[03:54] <Kvark> i got a problem, gnome-terminal is driving me mad by closing itself when i open it with the --execute flag
[03:54] <aeho> When I want to
[03:54] <BlueEagle> h17m4n: Also remember to setup your /etc/fstab and your /boot/grub.conf and run grub to update the bootloader with the new location of the bootloader files.
[03:54] <neri_> how can i change the permission of a folder?
[03:54] <aftertaf> how do i setup /etc/networking/interfaces to have 2 different ip addresses on different subnets?
[03:54] <h17m4n> I'm downloading Suse right now.... 4.1 gig DVD iso on a 256K connection :-[
[03:54] <GNU-GPL> neri_, with chmod
[03:54] <aeho> When I want to copy an audio-cd with k3b, do I use "normal copy" or "clone copy" in cd-copy settings
[03:54] <Kvark> it even closes itself when i do "gnome-terminal --execute read"
[03:55] <aeho> ?
[03:55] <mastertet> join #ubuntu-fr
[03:55] <mastertet> oups
[03:55] <Seveas> aftertaf, on one interface or two?
[03:55] <GNU-GPL> mastertet, bonjour
[03:55] <mastertet> Allo
[03:55] <aftertaf> Seveas:  sorry.. on one interface (i've put eth0 on static)
[03:56] <WhiteRabbit> nlogax, you like?
[03:56] <Seveas> aftertaf, create a new interface witht the name eth0:1
[03:56] <aftertaf> ok. just like i did on eth0? then ifup eth0:1 to start it?
[03:56] <Seveas> aftertaf, indeed
[03:57] <aftertaf> by god i'm learning
[03:57] <aftertaf> :) Seveas
[03:58] <aftertaf> it worked :D
[03:58] <nlogax> WhiteRabbit Tx a lot mate!  I'm gonna dive right in there
[03:58] <bloodnik> where's the suggested sources.list please?
[03:58] <Hoxzer^> how do I install qparted in ubnuntu?
[03:58] <brenner> !repos
[03:58] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:59] <neri_> i can use the chmod commands without problems in another folders but in a particular folder the permissions remain constant
[03:59] <WhiteRabbit> nlogax, it'll get ya goin thats for sure
[03:59] <aftertaf> i've given it a gateway with eth0's ip address....., that way i can add my to the eth0:1 subnet and be off the corporate LAN...
[03:59] <WhiteRabbit> nlogax, that is if your wanting to get to the goin that is ;)~
[03:59] <bloodnik> ta
[03:59] <WhiteRabbit> da
[03:59] <brenner> Hoxzer: enable universe repo, install qtparted package
[03:59] <aftertaf> do i need to do more to set it up as a router??
[03:59] <GNU-GPL> neri_, i think that the owner of this directory is someone else
[03:59] <aftertaf> router / NAT
[03:59] <Seveas> enable ip forwarding
[03:59] <GNU-GPL> (e.g. root)
[04:00] <aftertaf> ok...
[04:00] <neri_> im in a root terminal but it doesnt work
[04:00] <Auriacan> ok, i seem to be deficient, because i can't seem to "link up" java
[04:00] <aftertaf> cheers... but i did right with the gateway setting being eth0's IP ?
[04:00] <Hoxzer^> Brenner: I can't still find it :E
[04:00] <Hoxzer^> with synapic
[04:01] <Hoxzer^> whats the package name
[04:01] <Seveas> aftertaf, yeah
[04:01] <WhiteRabbit> aftertaf, you might wanna add some tweaks to the sysctl.conf
[04:01] <brenner> Hoxzer^: qtparted
[04:01] <aftertaf> goddamn :D
[04:01] <Seveas> aftertaf, www.ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/start_nat
[04:01] <Hoxzer^> hmm...
[04:01] <WhiteRabbit> to lock it down even more secure
[04:01] <Hoxzer^> is it for amd64 version?
[04:01] <Kvark> please help me get gnome-terminal to stay open when the --execute flag is used
[04:01] <Hoxzer^> fount it
[04:01] <aftertaf> cheers Seveas ... i AM leaving newbieland at a good rate here ;)
[04:02] <BlueEagle> Well I'm off to work. Have a good one.
[04:02] <WhiteRabbit> aftertaf,  Sysctl.conf hardening -- http://www.eth0.us/sysctl  heres a example guide
[04:02] <sosukeinukawa> hi, i'm a noob
[04:02] <WhiteRabbit> sosukeinukawa, we know!
[04:02] <GNU-GPL> neri_, is it a system directory or a directory inside a home dir
[04:02] <BlueEagle> h4x0r2damh4x0r: All you need is to install a few packages to get mp3 working, but I hope you've figured out that much by now. :)
[04:02] <sosukeinukawa> dual boot system on powerbook
[04:02] <GNU-GPL> if it's a system dir.. don't tinker with it!
[04:02] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> what are the package
[04:02] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :/
[04:02] <sosukeinukawa> can't make osx default
[04:02] <WhiteRabbit> OSX/Ubuntu?
[04:02] <sosukeinukawa> yep
[04:02] <aftertaf> cheers WhiteRabbit & Seveas ... i'm done for the day but i'll check that first thing 8am Paris time ;)
[04:03] <neri_> it a mounted unit
[04:03] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, did you add those repos yet & updated the apt cache?
[04:03] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: open up /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:03] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> yes
[04:03] <WhiteRabbit> then install xmms
[04:03] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <GNU-GPL> neri_, you could use ls -al to see what the owner/group is of the directory
[04:03] <neri_> when i try to change the permissions always says "only read file system"
[04:03] <aftertaf> thx again....... & byee
[04:04] <GNU-GPL> neri_, ok.. is it NTFS?
[04:04] <neri_> yes
[04:04] <GNU-GPL> right..
[04:04] <sosukeinukawa> ok, then
[04:04] <GNU-GPL> well there's the problem. By default the NTFS support is read-only (on the kernels in ubuntu)
[04:05] <DVSoftware> GNU-GPL: ntfs write is unsafe
[04:05] <neri_> how do i change that
[04:05] <WhiteRabbit> safest way to transfer data is via a fat32
[04:05] <GNU-GPL> there is experimental write support aviable.. but better not use it
[04:05] <Sebischn> ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** <-- Whats that about. I've installed python2.4-tk,does someone know, how to fix this problem?
[04:05] <Hoxzer^> ok, now that I installed qtparted how do I  resize my partition
[04:05] <WhiteRabbit> can you make a spare 5 gig fat32 to transfer the data back n forth
[04:05] <GNU-GPL> DVSoftware, i know.. ;-)
[04:05] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> BLAQELARL
[04:06] <Kvark> how do I make a script display the output in a gnome-terminal window?
[04:06] <DVSoftware> :)
[04:06] <Hoxzer^> for some reason I can't resize it ;/ the text is gray
[04:06] <GNU-GPL> :)
[04:06] <WhiteRabbit> Kvark, -vv
[04:06] <Seveas> Sebischn, did you install the idle-python2.4 package?
[04:06] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> slap your mum
[04:06] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[04:06] <Sebischn> Seveas : yes, I did
[04:06] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[04:06] <LaserLine> DVSoftware - Hey :)
[04:06] <GNU-GPL> hmm she slaps back
[04:06] <neri_> as a root i can access the partition, why it will be a proble to access it being a user?
[04:06] <Seveas> GNU-GPL, .....
[04:06] <DVSoftware> LaserLine: hey
[04:06] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> lol
[04:06] <sosukeinukawa> what do i do after i open up /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[04:07] <Kvark> WhiteRabbit: if the script should choose wheter or not to open a terminal window to display output in?
[04:07] <WhiteRabbit> Our chilie is so good it'll make ya wanna SLAP your momma!
[04:07] <GNU-GPL> Seveas, .....
[04:07] <Auriacan> can i please get some help here?
[04:07] <Seveas> neri_, it will not if you mount it correctly
[04:07] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> k done
[04:07] <Emos> hi all... i just have the ubuntu cd arrive to me today... i am going to install it... but i wanna comform some thing can any 1 help me...... will it support Intel LGA 775 P4 Ht computer ?
[04:07] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i hope its working now
[04:07] <WhiteRabbit> Kvark, pop a console & run the cmd with blahblah -vv
[04:07] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: you need to change the line with 'default'
[04:07] <Seveas> Emos, yes it will
[04:07] <Sebischn> I really don't know, what's that all about :(
[04:07] <WhiteRabbit> verbose is what your after Kvark
[04:07] <Hoxzer^> do I need unmount HDD if I resize it?
[04:07] <Quinthius> neri_:  try doing ls -ld on the main filesystem you're trying to access (like ls -ld /boot or /home or whatever)
[04:08] <Seveas> Sebischn, what does python -V tell you?
[04:08] <Seveas> Hoxzer, yes
[04:08] <brenner> Hoxzer: irc, yes
[04:08] <brenner> *iirc
[04:08] <sosukeinukawa> can i add a line that says defaultos=macosx, i don't have any lines listed
[04:08] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> Sudo neutrial
[04:08] <Kvark> WhiteRabbit: the script is for the right click menu in nautilus so it's not meant to be started from inside a terminal
[04:08] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> forgot wtf was that
[04:08] <Sebischn> Seveas : I tells me : Python 2.4.1
[04:08] <Emos> do i need to do anything... when the cd reach me... must i send a msg to ubuntu to tell that i have recieve the cds ?
[04:08] <WhiteRabbit> Kvark, debug it that way you can watch the output in verbose ;)~
[04:08] <DVSoftware> Emos: nope
[04:08] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: should be right at the top: "default <num?"
[04:09] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: and no, you can't do what you just said. :)
[04:09] <Kvark> WhiteRabbit: how do i debug it?
[04:09] <WhiteRabbit> Kvark, this is were the ride stops for a few mins!
[04:09] <brenner> Emos: no, don't bug them. :)
[04:10] <sosukeinukawa> nope, i've got nothing in the file menu.lst, i opened it in gedit and nano just to be sure
[04:10] <Auriacan> can someone please instruct me on "linking up" JDK?
[04:10] <Kvark> WhiteRabbit: ok, thanks for the hint about a direction to try
[04:10] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> WTF
[04:10] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> still doesn't workw
[04:10] <Hoxzer^> :E
[04:10] <Hoxzer^> strange
[04:10] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: nothing at all>
[04:10] <sosukeinukawa> nothing
[04:10] <Amaranth> i hate wireless networks
[04:10] <brenner> ?
[04:10] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> is there a player for it?
[04:10] <WhiteRabbit> Auriacan, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable
[04:10] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> SOMEONE PLEASE
[04:10] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> im dying
[04:11] <Seveas> WhiteRabbit, bad instructions there
[04:11] <Seveas> Auriacan, gran a java .deb file from hoary-extras or from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:11] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:11] <Emos> i have both EM64t and intel x86 cds... how i know if which support all my system ? and will the EM64T version be more powerful and faster ?
[04:11] <Hoxzer^> .....hmmm
[04:11] <Sebischn> Seveas : You propaply know were the error points to ?
[04:11] <Kvark> Seveas: what would good instructions be?
[04:11] <Hoxzer^> can somebody help me to unmount hdd?
[04:12] <Hoxzer^> :E it says device is busy but I have nonthing using it
[04:12] <Seveas> Hoxzer, umount /dev/harddrive
[04:12] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, your still riding a bike with to many cc's it's ok to ride it just don't squeeze the trottle so hard just yet til your used to it ;D
[04:12] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: you've opened up the wrong file then
[04:12] <Seveas> Kvark, i gave them :)
[04:12] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> ITS DONE
[04:12] <Hoxzer^> root@dhcppc0:/mnt # umount /dev/hdb1
[04:12] <Hoxzer^> umount: /mnt/share: device is busy
[04:12] <sosukeinukawa> it told me it was a new file
[04:12] <Seveas> Sebischn, I just tried installing idle myself, works out of the box :|
[04:12] <h17m4n> damn
[04:12] <Seveas> Hoxzer, lsof /mnt/share
[04:12] <h17m4n> I spilled coffee on my laptop
[04:12] <WhiteRabbit> Auriacan, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15
[04:13] <h17m4n> lucky it wasn't a lot, and not on the keyboard
[04:13] <WhiteRabbit> h17m4n, if you was at Mc'Ds when it happen I belive you can sue!!!
[04:13] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: what'd you type in the terminal? (exactly)
[04:13] <Sebischn> Seveas : Confusing, I'm really starting to get crazy with this IDLE stuff
[04:13] <Hoxzer^> seveas: and?
[04:13] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> LOL
[04:13] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> IT PLAYED
[04:13] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, What else do you need to keep you in linux today?
[04:13] <sosukeinukawa> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:13] <Seveas> Hoxzer, what does that tell>
[04:13] <Seveas> ?
[04:13] <GNU-GPL> h17m4n, well i hope the coffee was tasty ;-)
[04:13] <Hoxzer^> COMMAND    PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[04:13] <Hoxzer^> gam_serve 7712 niko   47r   DIR   3,65 8192   37 /mnt/share/DC share
[04:13] <h17m4n> WhiteRabbit: Hehe guess I should've been there
[04:13] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> thanks guys
[04:13] <Emos> i have both EM64t and intel x86 cds... how i know if which support all my system ? and will the EM64T version be more powerful and faster ?
[04:13] <Seveas> Hoxzer, pkill -9 gam_server
[04:14] <h17m4n> it was just under to the side of the touchpad
[04:14] <Hoxzer^> Seveas: thx
[04:14] <h17m4n> cleaned up with paper tower
[04:14] <sosukeinukawa> maybe i'm wrong, is there something i can do to /etc/yaboot.conf ?
[04:14] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> hm
[04:14] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: that's weird....if that file isn't there, you wouldn't have been able to use grub
[04:15] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> Themes
[04:15] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> and a better player is there is?
[04:15] <Seveas> !themes
[04:15] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> something similar to winamp will do
[04:15] <ubotu> themes is probably at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[04:15] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: no, it's menu.lst you want
[04:15] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, unless the program was souped up with EM64t support it want add any power factor of WOW this is a better CPU bla blah to it
[04:15] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: 'locate menu.lst'
[04:15] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> WhiteRabbit?
[04:15] <DVSoftware> h4x0r2damh4x0r: beep-media-player, xmms, amarok, juk, errrmmm.... can't remember
[04:16] <Seveas> vlc totem mplayer
[04:16] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, the system would be more responsive if it was compipled with emt64 though but the software thats another story
[04:16] <Seveas> mpg321
[04:16] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how?
[04:16] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, ?
[04:16] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how?
[04:16] <Auriacan> thanx
[04:16] <DVSoftware> h4x0r2damh4x0r: synaptic
[04:16] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, xmms has more options than beep
[04:16] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how do i get beep mediaplayer ?
[04:16] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> xmms
[04:16] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> k
[04:16] <sosukeinukawa> what directory should i be in when i  "locate menu.lst" ?
[04:16] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, amarok I like that
[04:16] <brenner> WhiteRabbit: it does?
[04:16] <eva-02> there a terminal command like ipconfig in xp?
[04:16] <brenner> ifconfig
[04:16] <eva-02> just need to display my local ip
[04:16] <WhiteRabbit> brenner, yes
[04:16] <Emos> WhiteRabbit do that mean if i have a computer that support 64bit it is better performance for the os ?
[04:17] <eva-02> brenner: ty
[04:17] <Hoxzer^> ....strange
[04:17] <Hoxzer^> for some reason I cannot still resize the partition :E
[04:17] <Hoxzer^> ntsf
[04:17] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: any...doesn't matter
[04:17] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, well of course a 64bit OS that was compiled for a 64bit cpu is goin to be better than a 32bit os compiled for a 32bit OS
[04:17] <Hoxzer^> and qtparted
[04:17] <Truth> rg
[04:18] <DVSoftware> WhiteRabbit: you mean for 32bit cpu
[04:18] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, but the software your gonna wanna use that you get from extras etc must be of 64bit compiles to have that difference in speed your after
[04:18] <sosukeinukawa> just gives me another command prompt
[04:18] <Hoxzer^> its not even mounted :D
[04:18] <WhiteRabbit> DVSoftware, no I meant 32bit os ;D
[04:18] <DVSoftware> 32bit os compiled for a 32bit OS
[04:18] <DVSoftware> read what you've said
[04:18] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, in some deals the 32bit software runs slower on a 64bit CPU than it should
[04:19] <sosukeinukawa> am i screwed?
[04:19] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, theres alota work still for the 64bit land but if your game to learn & go at it Go 64bit
[04:19] <Hoxzer^> are you guys sure qtparted can resize ntsf partitions?
[04:19] <Hoxzer^> :E
[04:19] <Seveas> ntfsresize can
[04:19] <WhiteRabbit> DVSoftware, Now do you see why I did that
[04:19] <WhiteRabbit> DVSoftware, it made you read it more than once!
[04:19] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[04:20] <WhiteRabbit> I call it sticky IRCing lol
[04:20] <WhiteRabbit> sticks to the brian to make you read it
[04:20] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: how the heck did you  even boot into an OS if you don't have grub configged? :-/
[04:20] <LaserLine> What kernel for AthlonXP 2700+ ???  686 or K7 ??
[04:20] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> STFUKTHX
[04:20] <GNU-GPL> h4x0r2damh4x0r, LANGUAGE!
[04:20] <Emos> WhiteRabbit do u mean that all the things that install from the ubuntu 64bit cd is all 100% support 64bit technology
[04:20] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: that meant it couldn't find the file
[04:20] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: are you using a little 'L'? or a '1'?
[04:20] <WhiteRabbit> h4x0r2damh4x0r, duder wtfever j00 don't wan't the M3n to rebuild your fallen egg sh311s
[04:21] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, would yaboot do it? because i boot into it everyday.
[04:21] <WhiteRabbit> Emos, I cant go that far to say yes but I would like to think so
[04:21] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, little L
[04:21] <WhiteRabbit> as Im currently 32bit here myself
[04:21] <Hoxzer^> seveas: is that linux software or?
[04:21] <Auriacan> Seveas, there seems to be a password required for downloading from your site
[04:22] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: and you're running ubuntu, not OSX?
[04:22] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> sftnt
[04:22] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> sifnt
[04:22] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> :D
[04:22] <Seveas> h4x0r2damh4x0r, cut it out
[04:22] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, yep ubuntu
[04:22] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> aiight
[04:22] <Seveas> Auriacan, msg me a user/pass you like
[04:22] <h17m4n> I hope that no coffee got to the hardware.... Now I see the reason why my IBM laptop las a cover under the keyboard and all over the hardware.
[04:22] <LaserLine> Hey guys - I have a Question about AthlonXP 2700+ and kernels - K7 or 686 ?
[04:22] <h17m4n> has*
[04:23] <h17m4n> This gateway doesnt
[04:23] <WhiteRabbit> Seveas, he just got happy from being in linux while listening to his liberachi mp3's thats all
[04:23] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: weird
[04:23] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: you are using grub are you not?
[04:24] <WhiteRabbit> ghost
[04:24] <tsw> Is there a net installer for ubuntu (like there is for debian?)
[04:24] <WhiteRabbit> tsw, cd 1!
[04:24] <Hoxzer^> seveas: is ntfsresize linux software or boot software?
[04:24] <tsw> WhiteRabbit: its still >500megs
[04:24] <Seveas> linux
[04:24] <WhiteRabbit> tsw, what you want it on a credit card business cd
[04:25] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, i'm not sure. like i said, i'm a noob. i got it in my dumb head, that i was going to install ubuntu, and i did. it boots via yaboot
[04:25] <tsw> WhiteRabbit: that would be best
[04:25] <WhiteRabbit> tsw, Im sure it's possible
[04:25] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: that's probably why then...you aren't using grub as your bootloader...
[04:25] <tsw> WhiteRabbit: but ist non existing at the moment?
[04:25] <WhiteRabbit> just re master the cd to fit on the business card cd
[04:25] <tsw> s/ist/its
[04:25] <WhiteRabbit> tsw, I dunno
[04:25] <WhiteRabbit> even if it was I'd wanna remaster it myself
[04:25] <tsw> WhiteRabbit: thanks, Ill go search :)
[04:25] <WhiteRabbit> for that control
[04:26] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, ok, can i modify /etc/yaboot.conf ?
[04:26] <GNU-GPL> LaserLine, i would say 686
[04:26] <LaserLine> GNU-GPL what are the diffrence ?
[04:27] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: not sure....never used it....but yeah, read the readme or any doc it has.....sorry i wasted your time
[04:27] <d7rt> anyone know if the fix for http://www.us.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-799 will be patched in and made available via hoary-security anytime soon (or how i would find out if the webcalendar currently provided by hoary is vulnerable)?
[04:27] <Emos> can i install ubuntu into a computer that have windowsxp on it... i wanna have dual os system... can i do that ? and how
[04:27] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, nope, sorry i wasted yours. i appreciate your help.
[04:27] <LaserLine> Will Ubuntu ever adopt XFCE4, like kubuntu ??
[04:27] <GNU-GPL> LaserLine, k7 is old amd's (pre athlon+ series)
[04:28] <mjr> LaserLine, XFCE4 packages are available (in universe, at least), if you want them
[04:28] <LaserLine> GNU-GPL yeah.. ok thanks
[04:28] <mjr> I doubt anyone's going to start a separate project with that
[04:28] <brenner> sosukeinukawa: np....i just assumed you were using grub.
[04:28] <LaserLine> mjr - i know i use it, but i can't get sound to work with xfce4 (like gnome sounds)
[04:28] <SanderD> Hi. Do you know how to remove the ATI driver and control tool, that I installed with the ATI installer? I want to try the standard packages with Ubuntu now, I think..
[04:28] <Renski> Off topic, but doesnt anyone know of a #maths channel anywherE?
[04:29] <sosukeinukawa> brenner, i guess not. from now on, if i install any other linux distros, i will
[04:29] <GNU-GPL> Renski, i don't
[04:29] <Renski> there used to be one on bok.sk, a million years ago
[04:31] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> STFUKTHX
[04:31] <Hoxzer> ..... I still have not found a way to resize the ntsf partition :E
[04:31] <wastrel> prolly on efnet
[04:31] <wastrel> but we say math in american english
[04:31] <wastrel> so try without the s
[04:32] <Quinthius> anyone know why mplayer isn't resizing my video when i go fullscreen?
[04:32] <wastrel> Quinthius, use the -zoom flag
[04:32] <chrissturm> Quinthius, use -vo xv
[04:34] <Quinthius> xv doesn't seem to wanna work... error initializing selected video_out device
[04:35] <LokeDK> Will there be support for WPA-PSK in breezy?
[04:35] <kent> Can some one explain why a fellow ubuntu-user is banned here? his nick is ztoncy.  I just want a reason, not to argue. As far as I know, he hardly even talks here, just read. He's one of our friends in ubuntu.se (the swedish channel)
[04:36] <nlogax> WhiteRabbit - sure am!  I've had enough of the M$ world
[04:36] <nlogax> Been toying with Linux & various Unixes at work since '96
[04:36] <brenner> kent: who is he?
[04:37] <kent> brenner, well, thats a tuff question. A friendly ubuntu-user, and blender-artist. Not a person I would expect to be banned (and neither did he, he has no clue as to why he was banned). His nick is ztoncy.
[04:37] <kent> brenner, ztonzy that is. Sorry.
[04:39] <brenner> kent: don't have a record of him being banned in my logs so don't really know why.....but usually someone gets banned for a reason....most common one is flooding instead of using a pastebin.
[04:41] <LaserLine> How can i get rid of ESD and use only ALSA ?? I followd http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but still have esd working, and if i killall esd sound disappears - I know what you guys think about ubuntuguide, but that was kinda handy.....
[04:41] <n0x01> hi there
[04:41] <n0x01> newbie here
[04:42] <GNU-GPL> hi n0x01
[04:42] <brenner> LaserLine: what apps are causing you probs?
[04:43] <fred__> Hello !
[04:43] <kent> brenner it might be the ISP that is banned, since two other persons from ubuntu.se aswell is banned (and they seem to have the same isp.)  they use bredbandsbolaget, 85.224.*.* (bredbandsbolaget.se)
[04:43] <fred__> is someone using Breezy Community 4 here ?
[04:43] <LaserLine> brenner sometimes i have esd on 100% and have to kill it... this is a better guide i followed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:43] <Brandano> brenner: has a whole swedish ISP been banned? I got a couple of swedish users that say they've been banned with no apparent reason
[04:44] <LaserLine> brenner pingus can't make sound unless i disable sound in gnome.
[04:44] <Akrame> hi all , how can i change a user's directory ?
[04:44] <fred__> i have some trouble installing the ati drivers
[04:44] <kent> Brandano, it seems so.  Brebandsbolaget seems to be the ISP.  Friends from ubuntu.se have problems joining ubuntu now :(
[04:44] <brenner> Brandano, kent : it's possible.....bad ban maybe...try pinging the op in here
[04:45] <fred__> if someone could point me a good "Howto" it would be nice :)
[04:45] <kent> brenner, dont know who the op is, And Im afried of disturbing :(
[04:45] <brenner> fred__: isn't there a new graphical installer on the ati site?
[04:45] <Brandano> It's Seveas apparently :)
[04:45] <Akrame> hi all , how can i change a user's directory ?
[04:45] <orospakr> is there any way to do greylisting with hula?
[04:46] <kent> Seveas, could you help us with this? We just want to know if an entire swedish ISP is banned, and the reason for it. (bredbandsbolaget.se..) Since a few of our swedish members in #ubuntu.se sais they are banned.
[04:46] <Hoxzer> can I somehow change the theme of ubuntu because this white one looks so boooring
[04:46] <wips> Is there some kind of IRC client for Ubuntu?
[04:47] <brenner> wips: xchat is installed by default
[04:47] <brenner> wips: so is gaim
[04:47] <wips> oh
[04:47] <Seveas> kent, what is the ip range?
[04:47] <occy> Where can I get Gnome 2.12 for Ubuntu!
[04:47] <Seveas> LaserLine, don't follow ubuntuguide
[04:47] <occy> ;)
[04:47] <Seveas> especially not the sound part
[04:47] <LaserLine> Let's ask it diffrently - is there a way for me to STOP using ESD and just use ALSA and still have sound ? (don't want the ESD process at all...)
[04:48] <fluffybunny_> does ubuntu have some kind of roll-back feature (like windows?) my hoary installation has been acting up recently (so bad, its has forced me to reboot into windows just to get some work done today!)...
[04:48] <Seveas> it should be named #howtofuckupyoursoundbadly
[04:48] <LaserLine> Seveas that's the only thing i followed... and the howto on the forums is better...
[04:48] <kent> Sebischn, *!*@85.* ?
[04:48] <kent> Seveas,  *!*@85.* ?
[04:48] <LaserLine> Seveas I have sound and it works good with ALSA ans ESD. but i don't want to have the ESD process anymore....
[04:49] <GNU-GPL> Seveas, so your dutch eh?
[04:50] <wips> I found Skype, but is there some kind of MSN messenger for Ubuntu? using hotmail accounts?
[04:50] <LaserLine> Seaves - any ideas ?
[04:50] <LaserLine> Seveas got your name bad..sorry
[04:50] <brenner> wips: gaim
[04:51] <Seveas> GNU-GPL, yes
[04:51] <ztonzy> :)
[04:51] <GNU-GPL> uit welke regio?
[04:51] <Amaranth> Seveas: what was that?
[04:51] <d7rt> okay, maybe a more general question is applicable then -- is there a better way to follow security isses than reading the notices?  is there anywhere somone could point me to find out when patched webcalendar packages might become available for hoary ?
[04:52] <Seveas> Amaranth, 85.* was a too wide ban
[04:52] <Seveas> blocked too much legitimate users
[04:52] <Amaranth> no, i mean why the ban?
[04:52] <Seveas> spambots
[04:53] <Seveas> the only spambots left come from 85.(9x|11x|10x).* now
[04:53] <fluffybunny_> does ubuntu have a rollback feature?
[04:54] <ztonzy> Amaranth, I found it I was banned today..and some other swe users...uh...didnt know why
[04:54] <Nermal> you didn't miss much
[04:54] <Seveas> ztonzy, basically, I hate people from sweden ;)
[04:54] <Amaranth> Seveas: that'll soon change
[04:54] <Seveas> (j/k)
[04:54] <Amaranth> hehe
[04:54] <Seveas> Amaranth, for the worse or for the better?
[04:54] <ztonzy> Seveas, lucky I know couple of nice dutchies ;)
[04:55] <Amaranth> for the worse, if you ban them they'll buy new zombies in some other country
[04:55] <LaserLine> Seveas Could you help me with the ESD and ALSA ? alteast understandin git ?
[04:55] <fluffybunny_> firefox acting up since I changed my boot scripts - does anyone know what should or shouldn't boot to stop this?
[04:56] <Red_Bullet> tell me how to install kernel-source pls
[04:56] <Seveas> LaserLine, try #also or maybe crimsun can help
[04:56] <Masterkong> i got a tip about extended autocompletion in bash a few distros ago.. and that was a wonderful feature... but i dont remember how to enable it.. anyone kows what i mean?
[04:56] <Seveas> Red_Bullet, why do you need it?
[04:57] <Red_Bullet> because NVIDIA driver
[04:57] <Napasik> Anyone know how to install a .bin file ?
[04:57] <Seveas> Masterkong, edit your .bashrc/.bash_profile
[04:57] <Red_Bullet> need to compiletd to my kernel
[04:57] <Seveas> and uncomment the bash_completion stuff
[04:57] <Amaranth> Red_Bullet: ubuntu comes with the nvidia driver
[04:57] <Masterkong> ah
[04:57] <Seveas> Red_Bullet, nonsense, ubuntu has nvidia drivers for you
[04:57] <Seveas> !nvidia
[04:57] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:57] <Amaranth> !info nvidia-glx
[04:57] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.bin
[04:57] <LaserLine> Crimson - could you help me ?
[04:57] <Napasik> !java
[04:57] <ubotu> from memory, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:57] <Red_Bullet> are the driver installed
[04:57] <Red_Bullet> ?
[04:57] <Red_Bullet> in this moment
[04:58] <Amaranth> Red_Bullet: no, you need to install it manually
[04:58] <Red_Bullet> how
[04:58] <Seveas> Napasik, installing bin files is not recommended -- what is it you're installing?
[04:58] <Amaranth> Red_Bullet: from synaptic
[04:58] <Seveas> !tell Red_Bullet about nvidia
[04:58] <Amaranth> Red_Bullet: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:58] <Seveas> Red_Bullet, ubotu has told you how
[04:58] <Masterkong> Seveas, is that bash.bashrc?
[04:59] <Seveas> Masterkong, that's also a possibility
[04:59] <Masterkong> i'm, kinda a noob at this
[04:59] <LaserLine> Crimsun Could you help me ?
[04:59] <Napasik> Seveas, Java, for java programming
[04:59] <Amaranth> i hope this stupid laptop doesn't go into standby while i'm out having a smoke...grr
[04:59] <Amaranth> brb
[04:59] <Seveas> Napasik, don't use bin files for that
[04:59] <Seveas> grab a deb from hoary-extras or seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:59] <Napasik> Seveas,  couldnt find any other types
[04:59] <Hakis> Is there some kind of "cpu-z" program for Ubuntu? I'd like to see my specs
[05:00] <Seveas> grab a deb from hoary-extras or seveas.ubuntulinux.nl <-- Napasik
[05:00] <Napasik> ahh, ty
[05:00] <Seveas> Hakis, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:01] <Hakis> thx
[05:01] <Hakis> doenst say how much ram/what kind of ram
[05:02] <Napasik> Seveas, need username and password for seveas.ubuntlinux.nl
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> hi guys ... does anyone knows /vmlinuz is same as /boot/kernel-2.6*
[05:03] <GNU-GPL> wickedpuppy, it is..
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> so its just different names??
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> boy
[05:04] <Hakis> Can I someway find out my RAM,  Type++ in ubuntu?
[05:04] <Seveas> Napasik, check your PM :)
[05:04] <joh> Anyone know when gnome 2.12 will be in breezy?
[05:04] <Seveas> Hakis, cat /proc/meminfo
[05:05] <Seveas> joh, it already is
[05:05] <Hakis> oh, k, thx Seveas
[05:05] <windex> Seveas, that dosen't tell you what kind it is. :)
[05:06] <joh> Seveas: really? that's great :) thanks
[05:06] <ztonzy> a month until next release ? :)
[05:07] <GNU-GPL> wickedpuppy, /vmlinuz points to /boot/vmlinuz-kernelversion not /boot/kernel-version (it doesn't exist)
[05:07] <brenner> just look at the screen when your computer boots.....iirc, mine tells me mine is DDR
[05:07] <Hakis> Seveas, It doesnt say enough, I need more.. like what kind of ram... and is MemTotal:        62104 kB
[05:07] <Hakis>  suppose to my total ram?
[05:07] <Hakis> supposed to be my total ram*
[05:07] <windex> Hakis, the 'free' command is easier to read for totals and in use.
[05:08] <windex> Hakis, as far as what type it is, im not sure how to help you with that.
[05:08] <Hakis> hm, k. I suppose I have to open the shit then :P
[05:08] <Hakis> the free command? ^^
[05:09] <Emos> how do i setup ubuntu to connect to the adsl internet connection
[05:09] <windex> yes. type 'free' into a terminal.
[05:09] <jose222> hi
[05:09] <windex> it shows you the ammount of memory available, free, and the total
[05:09] <brenner> ubotu: tell Emos about adsl
[05:09] <Parallax_> how do I enable audio preview on gnome ?
[05:10] <LaserLine> What's better ? ESD or Polyaudio ?
[05:10] <brenner> Parallax_: in nautilus?
[05:10] <Parallax_> brenner: yes
[05:10] <tommi^> Hi. It would seem that my filesystem is utf-8 now so I can't change to iso-8859-15 or filenames will look bad. At least firefox and nvu display filenames incorrectly while nautilus manages it. Is there a utf-8 -> another character set transition guide?
[05:10] <Amaranth> stupid standby mode
[05:10] <Hakis> yeah, but what kind of memory is it talking about? is it RAM?
[05:10] <brenner> Parallax_: it's in prefs
[05:11] <jose222> I'd installed windows another time, but I can't boot anymore, so I started ubuntu with a live cd. I followed the instructions to solve my                       problem. I                      typed grub-install /dev/hda2 and hda2 is where I intalled ubuntu. but i've got this error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[05:11] <Parallax_> brenner: I know but it doesn't work
[05:11] <brenner> Parallax_: you need to hover over an audio file
[05:11] <fluffybunny_> what is the most stable version of linux?
[05:11] <tommi^> Or alternatively can you tell me why the somebody else's doc files with scandinavian characters show like boxes in OO.org and how to fix it?
[05:12] <Myrtti> !info eclipse
[05:12] <jose222> I was follwing thse instructions http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[05:12] <Parallax_> brenner: I hover over an audio file and it showsme a music icon but no sound is coming out. Nautilus->Preferences and audio preview is on always
[05:13] <LaserLine> after i type 'killall esd' how do i restart it ??
[05:13] <Hakis> uh.. again, can I somehow find out what kind of VGA card I have? :( heh
[05:13] <Hoxzer> can I somehow set terminal server client to total fullscreen mode?
[05:14] <tommi^> Myrtti, you're a finnish too, how have you delt with office files coming from windows environment?
[05:14] <Hoxzer> and I still haven't found the way to resize ntsf :E
[05:14] <Myrtti> tommi^: by opening them :->
[05:14] <Myrtti> no, what do you mean exactly
[05:15] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, theres 2 partition magic floppys one could use to do that
[05:15] <tommi^> Myrtti, well that's a good idea. I previously asked about character sets. I'm having trouble with office files made with windows machines: the scandinavian characters appear as boxes.
[05:15] <brenner> LaserLine: 'esd' ?
[05:16] <tommi^> Myrtti, are you using the default en_us / utf-8?
[05:16] <Hoxzer> whiteRabbit: so what do you want me to do?
[05:16] <brenner> Parallax_: weird...now i'm not getting it....searched the forum?
[05:16] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, or you could use Acronis partitioner
[05:16] <Parallax_> brenner: I'm googling
[05:16] <Myrtti> for a week yes, I haven't actually tried what the documents look like since I switched from en_GB@ISO-8859-15
[05:17] <WhiteRabbit> brenner, start esd
[05:17] <brenner> WhiteRabbit: ?
[05:18] <La_PaRCa> hullo
[05:18] <thyrane> alguien k hable espaol?
[05:18] <Quinthius> woot, fixed my xv problem... apparently Option "VideoOverlay" needs to be "on" in xorg.conf
[05:18] <teleyinex> hi
[05:18] <eva-02> how can i rmdir a directory that is not empty?
[05:18] <teleyinex> a backup tool
[05:18] <tommi^> Myrtti, I tried using the iso-8859-15 by setting it from dpkg-reconfigure locales and gdm but firefox and nvu show filenames weirdly.
[05:18] <Emos> can ubuntu run applications from windows ?
[05:18] <GNU-GPL> thyrane, no
[05:18] <Parallax_> thyrane: yo
[05:18] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfsresizer/ *you are at fault for any data lose*
[05:18] <Quinthius> Emos: no..
[05:19] <thyrane> alguien puede ayudarme con un problema de sonido en ubuntu??
[05:19] <Renski> eva-02: rm <dir> -Rf
[05:19] <Quinthius> Emos: whoops, misread that, sorry
[05:19] <brenner> eva-02: be careful though
[05:19] <teleyinex> now im trying to use faubackup
[05:19] <eva-02> Renski: ty
[05:19] <Quinthius> Emos: some windows apps can be run using wine or cedega... or vmware
[05:19] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, but ntfsresize should do you fine
[05:19] <LaserLine> brenner i hear quirks from my speaker....
[05:19] <Myrtti> tommi^: don't bother, use env for the applications that you must run on some other locale than the default system one
[05:19] <Emos> em... is all that software free too ?
[05:19] <LaserLine> brenner, isn't there a script that loads esd ?
[05:19] <thyrane> Parallax_
[05:19] <brenner> LaserLine: straight typing 'esd' doesn't work?
[05:20] <Quinthius> Emos: vmware is not free, wine is as far as i know, cedega has a pay version and a freee version (i hear the pay version is much better)
[05:20] <Parallax_>  thyrane: dime
[05:20] <Hoxzer> White: I dont really want to lose data :E
[05:20] <Renski> eva-02: like brenner said, be careful, thats how you loose crap loads of data
[05:20] <Quinthius> Emos: and i think there is a free virtual machine called qemu or something, not sure how it compares with vmware
[05:20] <thyrane> no tengo sonido en ubuntu,sabes como solucionarlo?
[05:20] <thyrane> ningun tipo de sonido
[05:20] <eva-02> ya im ok, just trying to install quake2
[05:20] <LaserLine> brenner - wait, i'll kill it again
[05:20] <GNU-GPL> thyrane, s, si usted lo pide en ingls
[05:20] <Parallax_>  thyrane: entra en ubuntu-es
[05:20] <eva-02> wanted to start fresh :)
[05:21] <jose222> I'd installed windows another time, but I can't boot anymore, so I started ubuntu with a live cd. I followed the instructions to solve my                       problem. I                      typed grub-install /dev/hda2 and hda2 is where I intalled ubuntu. but i've got this error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[05:21] <thyrane> ok
[05:21] <jose222> I was follwing thse instructions http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[05:21] <LaserLine> brenner - I should run it from my X Session (gnome) or from TTY1 ?
[05:21] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, even if you use a Commerical product like Partition Magic or Acronis you are at some level of risk to losen some data
[05:21] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, blame MS for not sharing there ntfs code openly
[05:22] <tommi^> Myrtti, that's a good idea but little bit inconvienent. "export en_GB@ISO-8859-15" for example ?
[05:22] <brenner> LaserLine: er, xsession probably
[05:22] <Parallax_> Solved: I needed to install mpg321
[05:22] <tommi^> Myrtti, correction, I mean locale=en..
[05:22] <LaserLine> brenner , but if i close the terminal esd ends again...
[05:22] <Myrtti> tommi^: sure, though I haven't tried that
[05:23] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, heres a few more ideas http://www.ranish.com/part/ I've heard more about this than the sourcefordge project
[05:23] <LaserLine> brenner - nope.
[05:23] <LaserLine> brenner doesn't work
[05:24] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, http://zeleps.com/ I dunno about this one just found it
[05:24] <tommi^> Myrtti, oright, thanks :)
[05:24] <Myrtti> np
[05:24] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, you might want to grab this one http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
[05:24] <brenner> LaserLine: not sure then sorry
[05:25] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, http://mrbass.org/ubcd/ as you can see the last screen shot it has a linux env on the full version which is also free
[05:25] <LaserLine> brenner - I reticked the sound and esd came back, i can hear the beep sound in the multimedia sound selector both esd and alsa but gnome sounds stopped working....
[05:25] <LaserLine> brenner If i choose gnome sounds to use esd and i have a game like pingus to use alsa - so i could hear both sounds ?
[05:26] <brenner> LaserLine: er, i'm not really a sound guru.....try pinging crimsun
[05:26] <brenner> he is
[05:26] <LaserLine> brenner he is away.
[05:27] <Hoxzer> whiterabbit: Ubcd can't resize ntsf
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> qtparted can resize ntfs
[05:27] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, um ya it can
[05:27] <Napasik> How do i install deb files ?
[05:28] <WhiteRabbit> Hoxzer, it has a toolchest of many programs to choose from once booted
[05:28] <bur[n] er_> Napasik: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[05:28] <Napasik> kk
[05:28] <Napasik> ty
[05:28] <bur[n] er_> Napasik: be careful... make sure you konw what you're doing
[05:28] <Napasik> :)
[05:28] <Myrtti> Napasik: debian files or ubuntu debs?
[05:28] <helpneeded> hello guys
[05:28] <brenner> Napasik: what are you installing?
[05:28] <helpneeded> i use aptitude to install .. but can't find snort
[05:28] <Napasik> Ubuntu debs i guess, java
[05:29] <helpneeded> i found it at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <helpneeded> it's a deb file how do i install it?
[05:29] <catfox> hi all. i'm on a fedora laptop (work machine) and want to download packages for my ubuntu desktop at home. i don't have a network at home yet, so is there an easy way of getting all the files + dependencies that i need somehow?
[05:29] <brenner> catfox: apt-zip iirc
[05:29] <Hakis> Can someone help me download and install http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amsn/ ?
[05:29] <Hakis> Im kinda new to this
[05:29] <catfox> brenner, will that work on a fedora system/
[05:29] <Myrtti> !tell Hakis repos
[05:30] <Myrtti> damn
[05:30] <Myrtti> I don't know how to use the bot
[05:30] <Myrtti> anyway
[05:30] <Myrtti> !repos
[05:30] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:30] <brenner> catfox: oh, probably not...
[05:30] <DarkEagle> How do I get root permissions to my main user, because I would like to do things with graphics? I know that I should know it already but I'm going crazy with files "(read only)" :I
[05:30] <helpneeded> i have a .deb file .. how do i install it?
[05:30] <catfox> thats the prob. i don't have a debian system here
[05:31] <brenner> catfox: hang on....googling
[05:31] <gemulohcekmung> wow
[05:31] <Myrtti> do things with graphics?
[05:31] <reiki_work> !dpkg
[05:31] <ubotu> methinks dpkg is the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'
[05:31] <Myrtti> eerrrrmmmm
[05:31] <WhiteRabbit> DarkEagle, you dont just give full root access to your main user
[05:31] <DarkEagle> I mean in GUI
[05:31] <WhiteRabbit> DarkEagle, that would be insane
[05:31] <Myrtti> !root
[05:31] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:31] <gemulohcekmung> yo guy
[05:31] <Truth> can anyone tell the command to install the codecs to play mp3 , mpeg , mpeg1
[05:31] <gemulohcekmung> can i ask something
[05:31] <Amaranth> Seveas: Why is 62.162.* banned? it's blocking a friend from joining the channel
[05:31] <tommi^> Myrtti, btw. you look soooo good.. :)
[05:31] <brenner> catfox: er, seems that yes, it's for debian systems only
[05:31] <catfox> brenner, you dont have to go to any trouble :)
[05:31] <gemulohcekmung> i want to know
[05:31] <Myrtti> DarkEagle: you have something configured wrongly if you don't get a GUI
[05:31] <brenner> catfox: in that case, you'll have to download deb files manually
[05:32] <WhiteRabbit> Truth, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:32] <gemulohcekmung> can i connect to internet if i only boot ubuntu with live cd?
[05:32] <DarkEagle> Other nice would be that I could use filemanager whit root permissions in onl case I need
[05:32] <gemulohcekmung> i mean after i configure the network setting
[05:32] <Myrtti> gemulohcekmung: prolly yes
[05:32] <gemulohcekmung> oh ic
[05:32] <gemulohcekmung> ;))
[05:32] <Truth> WhiteRabbit, : E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:32] <helpneeded> bah
[05:32] <helpneeded>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:32] <Amaranth> Truth: enable universe
[05:32] <brenner> catfox: what do you wish to install?
[05:32] <helpneeded> i used dpkg --install
[05:32] <WhiteRabbit> DarkEagle, just right click the files & check write access for that file for you current user
[05:32] <Truth> Amaranth, how?
[05:33] <helpneeded> and got depencies problem
[05:33] <WhiteRabbit> Truth, you need to setup repos first of all
[05:33] <Myrtti> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <catfox> brenner, build-essential, glade+dev stuff, mono etc
[05:33] <Amaranth> !universe
[05:33] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[05:33] <gemulohcekmung> what u mean helpneeded ?
[05:33] <Amaranth> !repositories
[05:33] <ubotu> [repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:33] <Napasik> How do i find out the password for the ubuntu deb file ?
[05:33] <Amaranth> Truth: read what ubotu said
[05:33] <helpneeded> i installed and got dependencies error
[05:33] <helpneeded> how do i correct it?
[05:34] <fluffybunny_> help: i have no swap. I am swapless
[05:34] <fluffybunny_> i have a swap partition, but "top" shows 0K swap and swapon is an invalid command
[05:34] <fluffybunny_> command = arguement
[05:35] <Myrtti> Napasik: use your own password
[05:35] <fluffybunny_> root@athena:/home/amanda # swapon -a
[05:35] <fluffybunny_> swapon: /dev/hda1: Invalid argument
[05:35] <Napasik> Myrtti, doesnt work :\
[05:35] <gemulohcekmung> lol
[05:35] <fluffybunny_> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    62312k cached
[05:35] <DarkEagle> I try to mount (works in root terminal)  and use hda1 (ubuntu on hda5) but I can't even look in it...
[05:35] <helpneeded> gemulohcekmung: how do i correct dependencies problems when installing with dpkg ?
[05:35] <DarkEagle> in file manager
[05:36] <brenner> catfox: not too familiar with those, but i would guess they'd have a few dependencies...you'll need to apt-cache show the main package, then get the dependencies it lists
[05:37] <brenner> catfox: you can download the deb files you need here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[05:37] <smach> hi everybody
[05:37] <brenner> copy them onto a CD, then dpkg -i *.deb when you get them onto your home computer
[05:37] <catfox> brenner, i'll take a look. thanks
[05:38] <smach> I need some help to configure alsa
[05:38] <brenner> helpneeded: what are you trying to install?
[05:38] <helpneeded> snort
[05:39] <helpneeded> i have ubuntu with base install
[05:39] <josip> Who was that genius who set a ban on 62.162.* ?
[05:39] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded - did you try apt-get install snort?
[05:39] <WhiteRabbit> I belive coke is a dep for snort
[05:39] <brenner> ubotu: forget dpkg
[05:39] <ubotu> i forgot dpkg, brenner
[05:39] <helpneeded> Package snort is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:39] <helpneeded> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:39] <helpneeded> is only available from another source
[05:39] <helpneeded> E: Package snort has no installation candidate
[05:39] <brenner> ubotu: dpkg is the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'.  It should be noted that installing this way should generally be used only if you can't find what you want in the repositories.  You should also avoid using any non-Ubuntu deb files (yes, even Debian ones).
[05:39] <ubotu> okay, brenner
[05:40] <fluffybunny_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2016
[05:40] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded what does your sources.list look like?
[05:40] <brenner> helpneeded: you have universe enabled?
[05:40] <Hakis> !repos
[05:40] <ubotu> hmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:40] <smach> can some one advise me about configuration of alsa plz
[05:40] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, you like doin that alot don't ya!
[05:40] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded, put in the multiverse and any other restricted repositories - i just installed it no problem
[05:40] <helpneeded> how to see my source list?
[05:40] <Amaranth> josip: oh, Seveas did
[05:40] <abarbaccia_> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, uh, no. I just did It again cause I forgot the other one
[05:40] <fluffybunny_> !swap
[05:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[05:41] <brenner> helpneeded: note: don't paste in here
[05:41] <smach> hey people!!!
[05:41] <josip> Amaranth, Bad, bad :-)
[05:41] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded, you can check out mine here: http://abarbaccia.com/mythtv/sources.list
[05:41] <helpneeded> brenner: ok sorry
[05:41] <smach> I really need help with my soud card
[05:42] <Amaranth> josip: i guess we don't like people from macedonia ;)
[05:42] <Myrtti> smach: I really need help reading your mind
[05:42] <brenner> helpneeded: np...just thought you might paste your sources.list in here :)
[05:42] <brenner> which you shouldn't do. :)
[05:42] <josip> Amaranth, We don't like you too :-D
[05:42] <brenner> use a pastebin if need be
[05:42] <helpneeded> abarbaccia: where do i put the file?
[05:42] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, you can read about the multiwho here http://www.organelle.org/organelle/sadasah.html
[05:43] <Hakis> multiwho?
[05:43] <smach> no one to help me ?
[05:43] <ztonzy> uh, spambots is back :(
[05:43] <DarkEagle> Second thing, Ubuntu didn't install pcmcia-cs because I installed ubuntu on other pc than my laptop. Now I need pcmcia support to Network. I can get things from net using windows ( = I got ubuntu and XP on laptop) and then move them to ubuntu. So is there any easy way to get that package. I downloaded it in tar.gz but I dont know how to install it correctly.
[05:43] <abarbaccia_> okay - do this:  wget http://abarbaccia.com/mythtv/sources.list; sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <brenner> smach: what probs are you having?
[05:43] <djib> hey
[05:44] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, who indeedy
[05:44] <smach> thanks : I can't listen to two streams in the same time
[05:44] <djib> when I booted my computer, it said checking disk and then : failed
[05:44] <helpneeded> allright done
[05:44] <djib> it explained ; 0.2% non-contiguous
[05:44] <djib> what can I do ?
[05:44] <helpneeded> so i just apt-get install snort now?
[05:44] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded, now do sudo apt-get update
[05:45] <brenner> smach: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:45] <Seveas> josip, what is your ip?
[05:45] <helpneeded> what is that for?
[05:45] <fluffybunny_> help: swapon doesn't work?
[05:45] <Seveas> I'll make an exception for it so the bans does not ban you
[05:45] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded, to tell apt-get about the new sources we added
[05:46] <abarbaccia_> helpneeded, now you can apt-get install snort
[05:46] <smach> brenner : thanks for help
[05:46] <brenner> np
[05:46] <josip> Thanks
[05:46] <josip> :-)
[05:46] <djib> no one know about those non contiguous files?
[05:47] <helpneeded> i used to use aptitude
[05:47] <helpneeded> is that the same as apt-get ?
[05:47] <abarbaccia_> almost
[05:47] <abarbaccia_> as far as you know, yes
[05:47] <helpneeded> which is better?
[05:47] <brenner> helpneeded: you can still use aptitude if you want
[05:47] <abarbaccia_> eh - better is a vague word - they both do the same job - aptitude is more flexible but if you dnot know how to use it can just get you in trouble
[05:47] <fluffybunny_> yippee, i got my swap working...
[05:48] <pawdro> hello, ive just downloaded enlightenment by apt-get, and it's not added to gnome logging session
[05:48] <pawdro> what to do to add
[05:48] <pawdro> it
[05:48] <helpneeded> ok then i'll use apt-get
[05:48] <abarbaccia_> good idea
[05:49] <helpneeded> i got some server not found problem earlier
[05:49] <helpneeded> with this new souces.list it works fine
[05:49] <brenner> pawdro: if it doesn't add itself to the sessions menu...need to set up .xsessions iirc
[05:50] <liquidian> Hello everyone
[05:50] <smach> hi , plz I' d like to know if I can  See people's webcam on amsn
[05:50] <helpneeded> ok another question
[05:50] <helpneeded> i couldn't find the packages
[05:50] <helpneeded> so i install ss5 using the sources
[05:51] <brenner> smach: sound fixed?
[05:51] <helpneeded> how do i add the service to startup?
[05:51] <DarkEagle> How do I get package whit no network in ubuntu (pcmcia-cs)
[05:51] <DarkEagle> *with
[05:52] <smach> not yet
[05:52] <josip> Since I dist-upgraded to Breezy from Hoary the system knows to slow everything down for ~10 seconds, the music is muted, mouse moves slowly and so on. I've heard about a HD problem ? Can someone give me further information ?
[05:52] <Napasik> Anyone know why I cant access Ubuntu deb files ?
[05:52] <brenner> Napasik: access?
[05:52] <smach> brenner; I executed the script given , it tells I don"t have a module config file
[05:52] <Napasik> Yeah, It says that i cant access the file :s
[05:53] <brenner> Napasik: what command are you running?
[05:53] <slimer03> josip, graphic driver
[05:53] <Napasik> sobu dpkg -i
[05:53] <brenner> no wonder
[05:53] <josip> slimer03, I have the nvidia driver installed
[05:53] <brenner> Napasik: it's 'sudo'
[05:53] <slimer03> reinstal
[05:53] <Napasik> yeah
[05:53] <Napasik> sudo
[05:53] <Napasik> my bad
[05:53] <Napasik> ;p
[05:53] <josip> slimer03, a second
[05:53] <brenner> did you read this, btw?
[05:54] <brenner> !dpkg
[05:54] <brenner>  !dpkg
[05:54] <brenner>  !dpkg
[05:54] <ogami1972> hello channel- say- how safe is it to use qtparted on your  root directory?
[05:54] <ogami1972> i'm in need of a windows partition and i'd rather not clean install ubuntu
[05:55] <smach> brenner: any idea about creating a moduke config file
[05:55] <liquidian> I would like to do a dist-upgrade to breezy - this will be about 900 mb - and i would like to know, if there are any mirrors containing the required .deb files or do i have to use the archive.ubuntu.com servers. I would be very happy if someone could tell me.
[05:55] <brenner> ogami1972: you mean dualboot xp and ubuntu?
[05:55] <brenner> Napasik: what's the full error?
[05:55] <brenner> smach: er, no, not really, sorry
[05:56] <Hakis> How do I delete a file in the terminal?
[05:56] <smach> brenner: thanks
[05:56] <ogami1972> well, 98, not xp- but my root partition has like 7 gigs of free space- can i live cd, and resize safely?
[05:56] <Napasik> brenner, got it working now :  )
[05:56] <smach> rm file
[05:56] <Hakis> k, thx
[05:56] <smach> hakis: rm file or rm -r directory
[05:57] <brenner> ogami1972: i don't get you...you already have linux installed?
[05:57] <Hakis> uh, "cannot remove. permission denied"
[05:57] <smach> Hakis :sudo rm file
[05:57] <fluffybunny_> new problem: when I log in to Ubuntu (gnome) i get the following error msg dialogue boxes: (1): Error (something about HAL!) (2) Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running.
[05:57] <helpneeded> hi guys ... where can i control startup services?
[05:57] <ogami1972> i have 2 machines- a 98, and an ubuntu- i have need to put a windows patr. on my ubuntu machine, but i've put a lot of work into ubuntu- i'd rather not format and clean install both
[05:57] <brenner> helpneeded: install rcconf
[05:58] <helpneeded> is that gui ?
[05:58] <brenner> helpneeded: sort of...ncurses
[05:58] <smach> Hakis : did u remove it
[05:58] <helpneeded> as long as it's not on X
[05:59] <liquidian> brenner: Are there any mirrors containing the required .deb files for an dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy or do I have to use the archive.ubuntu.com server (because of speed)?
[05:59] <brenner> ogami1972: so you'd like to resize your ubuntu root partition to make room?
[05:59] <helpneeded> brenner: i'm downloading something now .. how do i break out and perform another task? on terminal
[05:59] <ogami1972> exactly- is it safe?
[05:59] <brenner> liquidian: afaik, no.....not 100% sure though
[05:59] <brenner> liquidian: there _are_ mirrors of the sort:  au.archive.com iirc
[06:00] <liquidian> brenner: thank you very much, i will try this
[06:00] <brenner> *au.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <brenner> liquidian: just add the country before archive in your sources
[06:00] <eva-02> does Breezy not use /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:00] <brenner> liquidian: however, iirc, some of the mirrors point to same ones....e.d. au actually uses the uk one, iirc
[06:01] <ogami1972> oh wait- if install windows- it'll mess up the boot loader, and i won't be able to boot linux- i remember now
[06:01] <brenner> helpneeded: you can run rcconf in console
[06:01] <brenner> helpneeded: ctrl+c
[06:01] <liquidian> brenner: i am "de" i will try if its a bit faster - thank you very much
[06:01] <danl> do the source files exist in ubuntu to reconfigure and recompile the kernel?
[06:01] <helpneeded> brenner: no i don't wanna cancell it
[06:01] <helpneeded> is it !
[06:02] <brenner> yes, it will cancel
[06:02] <Hakis> How do I edit a file in terminal?
[06:02] <brenner> helpneeded: i don't get you then
[06:02] <danl> hakis > with nano, pico or emacs
[06:02] <brenner> Hakis: use an editor that can run in console
[06:02] <brenner> like danl said
[06:02] <helpneeded> brenner: say i'm apt-get installing something .... takes some time
[06:02] <Hakis> oh
[06:02] <helpneeded> i wanna do something else ...
[06:02] <smach> Hakis : for example vim fichier
[06:02] <brenner> helpneeded: are you in X?
[06:03] <helpneeded> no i'm not
[06:03] <brenner> helpneeded: should've run screen then. :)
[06:03] <danl> brenner what kind of acpi error?
[06:03] <helpneeded> i'm connnecting via putty to the box
[06:03] <brenner> helpneeded: afaik, not possible
[06:03] <smach> hakis : read the man pages of vim before
[06:03] <brenner> danl: ?
[06:03] <brenner> smach: recommending vim for a newbie? :)
[06:03] <tommi^> Myrtti, one tiny thing that I noticed... The documents contained a font that I didn't have. That was the real reason for displaying the characters incorrectly so everything is ok now.
[06:03] <liquidian> Hakis: you can use "vi" - to edit press the "insert-key" to get to the "menu" the "esc-key", to save press then "w" to quit "q" and to quit without saving "q!"
[06:03] <Hakis> well, Im doing an FAQ, and it tells me to add a line to /etc/fstab ..is there no easy of doing that?
[06:03] <helpneeded> brenner:: i used to rememver a command that can break out
[06:03] <fluffybunny_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2017
[06:03] <Myrtti> tommi^: nice to hear that
[06:03] <helpneeded> and then get back
[06:04] <helpneeded> jobs
[06:04] <Hakis> easy way*
[06:04] <helpneeded> is that it?
[06:04] <brenner> liquidian: not exactly. :-/
[06:04] <matthew_w> Where can I get transcode for ubuntu?
[06:04] <liquidian> yes brenner
[06:04] <liquidian> i forgot
[06:04] <liquidian> i mean: ":q" ":w" or ":q!"
[06:04] <liquidian> sorry hakis
[06:04] <brenner> helpneeded: use 'screen' to perform simultaneous tasks in console
[06:04] <Hakis> huh?
[06:05] <tommi^> Myrtti, sorry that I took your time for nothing
[06:05] <tommi^> See ya all.
[06:05] <brenner> Hakis: use nano for now maybe, then learn vim later
[06:05] <Hakis> brenner, gah, only for adding a line? :( where can I find nano?
[06:05] <selinium> Hi all, what is a good webcam app?
[06:06] <helpneeded> brenner: ok i got rcconf ... but i can't find ss5 in there ...
[06:06] <c0nan> selinium gnomeeting?
[06:06] <brenner> Hakis: should be installed already
[06:06] <Hakis> brenner, where? :P
[06:06] <smach> do some one know any good 3D game except ut, doom and quake
[06:06] <danl> ncurses doesn't come with ubuntu does it?
[06:06] <fluffybunny_> please help: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2018
[06:06] <brenner> helpneeded: need to add the service maybe then?
[06:06] <selinium> c0nan, Hadn't even thought of that!
[06:06] <selinium> smach, Nexuiz
[06:07] <ogami1972> ok- new question- if you had to kill a working sys and reinstall, and wanted it back the way it was asap, what steps would you take?
[06:07] <brenner> danl: er, i think it does..
[06:07] <smach> selinium : is it free?
[06:07] <helpneeded> brenner: how to add the service
[06:07] <brenner> ogami1972: back up your home partition
[06:07] <helpneeded> is it in rcS.d ?
[06:07] <selinium> smach: yep! shall i send the the file?
[06:07] <danl> hmmm when i run make menuconfig it says it's not installed... make i will go tinker in the kernel directory a lil more
[06:08] <brenner> not too sure actually
[06:08] <ogami1972> to another partition? how would i get it back?
[06:08] <helpneeded> now everytime i have to manually start it when reboot
[06:08] <smach> selinium : what(s the size?
[06:08] <selinium> smach, 161.5 MB
[06:08] <brenner> helpneeded: search the wiki/forum for adding services
[06:09] <DarkEagle> I'm going to blow my head off becaus "You don't have permissions to read/execute/anything to this file" .... Except with sudo in console...
[06:09] <smach> selinium : ok
[06:09] <brenner> DarkEagle: it's called security... :-/
[06:09] <ogami1972> :)
[06:09] <DarkEagle> brenner, it would be nice to get apt-get to work and pcmcia-cs installed for network
[06:09] <oolon> DarkEagle, sudo chown username /path/to/dir
[06:10] <brenner> ogami1972: copy it over again later, but iirc, ubuntu creates a home partition by default?
[06:10] <helpneeded> brenner: got that ... I used to do aptitude search sometrhing
[06:10] <smach> selinium: thanks
[06:10] <helpneeded> is there a search for apt-get?
[06:10] <brenner> apt-cache search <keywords>
[06:10] <selinium> smatch np: the website is at www.nexuiz.com
[06:10] <brenner> then apt-cache show <package>
[06:10] <c0nan> helpneeded apt-cache search ...
[06:11] <smach> selinium : do u have others games ?
[06:11] <ogami1972> exactly- when i reinstall ubuntu though, i think i can tell it which partition to use as home- like when you use the installation disk as rescue- is this correct?
[06:11] <selinium> smach: like what? 3d?
[06:11] <matt_good> over the past couple of days I've had to kill gam_server several times since it keeps sucking up huge amounts of memory
[06:11] <matt_good> is anyone else experiencing this?
[06:11] <smach> selinium : yes
[06:12] <matt_good> (this is on Breezy btw)
[06:12] <sexcopter8000m> does anyone know about auctex? i've installed it but have no idea how it "works"
[06:12] <ogami1972> well, i have to go to work anyway- this project will have to wait- thanks for the help brenner
[06:12] <selinium> smach: no other 3d games. I have an athlon 900 with 128K ram. Not the best for 3d games!
[06:12] <sexcopter8000m> it appears to be an add-on for emacs, but can't see how to invoke it
[06:12] <brenner> ogami1972: look in /etc/fstab to see if your home directory is stored on a parition
[06:12] <oolon> What is the difference between "Base System" and "Base System (Universe)" in a Synaptic Dialogue box?
[06:13] <ogami1972> it is- when i installed i put home and root on seperate partitions
[06:13] <smach> selinium : I see , any names so that i can make a search plz
[06:13] <helpneeded> funny but there's nothing on "adding services" in the wiki :(
[06:13] <DarkEagle> oolon, Thanks, that helped lot :I
[06:13] <oolon> da:)
[06:14] <DarkEagle> now I would like to install that pcmcia-cs package (no network jet)
[06:14] <djib> has anyone of you got a pen table
[06:14] <djib> t
[06:14] <reylan> bonsoir
[06:15] <DarkEagle> I have pcmcia-cs.tar.gz extracted but no Idea howto install or something
[06:15] <Hakis> Where on my computer is nano?
[06:16] <djib> salut reylan
[06:16] <Hakis> !nano
[06:16] <ubotu> Hakis: Wish i knew
[06:16] <Hakis> ..so do I
[06:16] <geeet> is there any way to remove the black rectangles when minimizing
[06:16] <oolon> DarkEagle, is there a reame or install file in there? most times though you start with ./configure
[06:17] <Absenth> which package is it I need to install to get GCC and the other developer bits?
[06:18] <DarkEagle> conf in terminal says "dmaged", Maybe because I used Windows to get it to ubuntu (net -> win -> ubuntu)
[06:18] <thrush_2> Absenth, build-essential?
[06:18] <DarkEagle> *damaged"
[06:18] <Absenth> thrush_2: that might be it.
[06:18] <Absenth> thanks
[06:18] <Napasik> Whats the command for refreshing your GNOME-thing-meny ;P
[06:18] <Napasik> killall - <Something>
[06:19] <oolon> could be DarkEagle
[06:19] <Rockett18> killall -gnome-panel i think
[06:19] <oolon> does anyone know what is the difference between "Base System" and "Base System (Universe)" in a Synaptic Dialogue box?
[06:20] <Hakis> I How do I open a file in Nano?
[06:20] <Hakis> Its killall gnome-panel
[06:20] <deFrysk> nano /path/to/txtfile
[06:21] <deFrysk> nano -w for wrapping long lines
[06:21] <Hakis> ?
[06:21] <Gobbla> how do i add the wine Repository i synaptic... the info on winehq.org seems to be for warty.....
[06:21] <Hakis> ..Im suppse to add one line to a file called at etc/fstab
[06:21] <Seveas> !forget yossi
[06:21] <ubotu> i forgot yossi, Seveas
[06:21] <Gobbla> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:22] <Seveas> LaserLine, don't play with the bot
[06:22] <smach> selinium : I got it from the website , thanks
[06:22] <josip> Any _good_ irc client excluding XChat ?
[06:23] <helpneeded> brenner: you've been great help .. thanks a million :)
[06:23] <Hakis> DeFrysk, when I open the file in Nano its empty?
[06:23] <Red_Bullet> !info nvidia-glx
[06:23] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB
[06:24] <Red_Bullet> !tell Red_Bullet nvidia-glx
[06:24] <deFrysk> Hakis, what file are you trying to open ?
[06:24] <Hakis> deFrysk, etc/fstab
[06:24] <Red_Bullet> !tell Red_Bullet  nvidia
[06:24] <deFrysk> Hakis, nano -w /etc/fstab
[06:24] <Red_Bullet> please tel me about
[06:25] <thrush_2> josip, command line or gui?
[06:25] <Red_Bullet> drivers
[06:25] <Red_Bullet> for NVIDIA
[06:25] <deFrysk> Hakis, you forgot the /
[06:25] <josip> thrush_2, gui
[06:25] <Red_Bullet> what to write
[06:25] <djib> has anyone tried the newest gnome ?
[06:25] <deFrysk> Hakis, also use sudo otherwise you cannot write to it
[06:25] <josip> djib, sure
[06:25] <danl> apm --help
[06:26] <danl> arg wrong console :-D
[06:26] <thrush_2> josip, never fooled with any gui clients other than mirc and xchat..
[06:26] <djib> josip: any good ?
[06:26] <matthew_w> Hey uh, anyone have a link for enemy territory?
[06:26] <josip> :-)
[06:26] <josip> So ... XChat :-)
[06:26] <josip> matthew_w, www.enemy-territory.com
[06:27] <smach> selinium : I've got a little pb , I downloaded the windows version !!!
[06:27] <Red_Bullet> how to install drivers for NVIDIA
[06:27] <Hakis> deFrysk, : ah, k, I see now. and how do I save/overwrite?
[06:27] <Red_Bullet> tell me again
[06:27] <smach> selinium : can you send the file again plz
[06:27] <Red_Bullet> tell to ubotu to tell me pls
[06:27] <deFrysk> Hakis, save = ctrl-x
[06:27] <DrTiger> hey, could someone please tell me how I can check for opengl configuration?
[06:28] <Hakis> deFrysk, ok, thx for everything
[06:28] <deFrysk> then answer the question
[06:28] <Red_Bullet> DrTiger,
[06:28] <Red_Bullet> write
[06:28] <Red_Bullet> sax2
[06:28] <DrTiger> sax2  is the suse x configurator, isn't it?
[06:29] <DrTiger> at least theres no corresponding binary on my system yet
[06:30] <danl> are there drivers that change the way acpi reads battery status?
[06:30] <djib> DrTiger: yes it is
[06:30] <laxise> hi everyone
[06:30] <djib> hello
[06:31] <DrTiger> I'd like to state once more, that I hate the whole design of this crappy X Windows System
[06:31] <laxise> how to get out what kind of shell i use?
[06:31] <laxise> is there any command?
[06:31] <Seveas> laxise, exit
[06:31] <laxise> yes?
[06:32] <joh> Uhm, the nvidia kernel module is not available in breezy's linux-restricted-modules package?
[06:32] <DrTiger> you can't relaunch a driver (mouse, keyboard, screens, cards) or even reconfigure any of them without killing off everything, including all your application windows
[06:32] <yuacht> is it stable to apt-get dist upgrade from hoary to breezy atm?
[06:32] <Seveas> yuacht, no
[06:32] <bur[n] er> yuacht: no
[06:32] <yuacht> ok, why?
[06:32] <eva-02> which package should i get to enable flash in firefox?
[06:32] <bur[n] er> because stable comes in october ;)
[06:32] <yuacht> so long :(
[06:32] <DrTiger> I hope some day we get over the design from 86 -.-
[06:33] <bur[n] er> !tell eva-02 about flash
[06:33] <bur[n] er> yuacht: not that long... just wait ;)
[06:33] <yuacht> yeah
[06:33] <eva-02> ty
[06:33] <joh> !nvidia
[06:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:33] <DrTiger> and by the way, I can't run sax2, I use ubuntu
[06:33] <Seveas> eva-02, flashplayer-mozilla
[06:34] <danl> DrTiger, this abou this, most of the time when you do anything with drivers in MS Windows, you have to restart the whole system
[06:34] <danl> *think
[06:34] <DrTiger> yep, but I've come to appreciate the way things normally are on Linux
[06:34] <mz2> how do i search which package provides a certain file?
[06:34] <danl> lol
[06:34] <Seveas> mz2, apt-file
[06:34] <DrTiger> so how can I check whats wrong with the gl configuration?
[06:34] <matthew_w> What is a .run file?
[06:35] <bur[n] er> DrTiger: using breezy I assume?
[06:35] <DrTiger> yes, how do you know?
[06:35] <bur[n] er> because glx is broken in breezy
[06:35] <danl> AHHH I just uplugged my laptop and it's trying to force me to shutdown... it always says i have 12% battery unless my battery is really almost dead, then i have 63%...
[06:35] <DrTiger> -.-
[06:35] <bur[n] er> it's not stable yet ;)
[06:35] <matthew_w> Or more appropriately, how would I insall, a .run file
[06:36] <eva-02> what does "nonfree" mean exactly - e.g. apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:36] <DrTiger>  danl: hey, at least you have battery support..... Ubuntu always thinks my laptop is connected to a power source
[06:36] <eva-02> it just isnt open source, or am i pirating software somehow
[06:36] <Tomcat_> eva-02: It's not free in the sense of "free software".
[06:36] <Tomcat_> eva-02: You're not pirating anything, it's just not open source, as you said.
[06:36] <matthew_w> DrTiger, danl :  Do you have ACPI enabled in your kernels?
[06:36] <eva-02> ok
[06:37] <eva-02> a bit confusing :)
[06:37] <crazzybugger> hello people!
[06:37] <DrTiger> I don't know, I'm using a standard 386
[06:37] <joh> guys, isn't the nvidia driver in the restricted modules in breezy?
[06:37] <Tomcat_> eva-02: There's nothing illegal in the official repositories... never.
[06:37] <matthew_w> DrTiger; what kernel?
[06:37] <crazzybugger> i just heared about ubunto
[06:37] <chrissturm> how can i recursively delete all directories called "target" with find ?
[06:37] <tux-rox> I have gdesklets running on Ubuntu Breezy. I am behind a proxy and firewall. None of the weather gdesklets seem to work behind the proxy / firewall. Has anyone figured out how to get gdesklets to use the default proxy set in GNOME?
[06:37] <Tomcat_> eva-02: Though unofficial repositories might contain stuff that's somehow illegal. :o
[06:37] <DrTiger> I never was able to build my own kernel that would be able to mount my root fs -.-
[06:37] <mz2> Seveas, that's what i thought to
[06:37] <mz2> o
[06:37] <mz2> but this is what i get:
[06:37] <mz2> matias@pingu:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/growisofs
[06:37] <mz2> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 71448 2005-05-23 14:32 /usr/bin/growisofs
[06:37] <mz2> matias@pingu:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/growisofs
[06:37] <mz2> matias@pingu:~$
[06:38] <matthew_w> DrTiger; to mount your root fs you would just edit /etc/fstab  nothing to do with your kernel... I would think.
[06:38] <DrTiger> uhm 2.6.10-5-386
[06:38] <mz2> also tried with just growisofs
[06:38] <joh> !breezy
[06:38] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:38] <danl> matthew, i don't know i can't get into kernel config to see
[06:38] <DrTiger> no, it totally won't mount it at all
[06:38] <joh> !breezy-nvidia
[06:38] <ubotu> joh: I give up, what is it?
[06:38] <matthew_w> danl; probably 2.6.10
[06:38] <joh> !breezy nvidia
[06:38] <larsrohdin> hi, how can I check wich computers are connected to the same network as me? e.g. the same router or dsl modem... can i use nmblookup, and how then?
[06:38] <ubotu> joh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:38] <DrTiger> giving up just seconds after grub
[06:38] <matthew_w> There's a big issue with laptop batteries, I couldn't get mine working either.
[06:39] <crazzybugger> :-/
[06:39] <danl> i know it's 2.6.10, but when i ren make config or make menuconfig i just get errors
[06:39] <matthew_w> What command do I use to install enemy territory?
[06:39] <DrTiger> when installing kernel source packages in the default config, acpi battery isn't checked
[06:39] <matthew_w> danl; what were you trying to install?
[06:39] <bur[n] er> matthew_w: chmod +x blah.run && sudo ./blah.run
[06:39] <matthew_w> DrTiger; do you get a kernel message when you start the computer saying something about starting ACPI?
[06:39] <danl> i was trying to reconfigure and recompile the kernel
[06:39] <matthew_w> Better yet, try typing dmesg into a terminal
[06:40] <danl> last time tried recompile a kernel was year and half ago in gentoo...
[06:40] <joh> Does *anyone* know what has happened with the nvidia driver in breezy?
[06:40] <DrTiger> acpi does work
[06:40] <DrTiger> it gives me temperature for example
[06:41] <DrTiger> but no battery status ...
[06:41] <endy_x> anyone knwo how to stop nautilus from making a ".Trash" folder on a usb drive?
[06:42] <Hoxzer^> what software can play cue + mp3 files?
[06:42] <danl> drtiger, same here i can get temp it just incorrectly reports the battery
[06:42] <DrTiger> endy_x I d be interested in that tooo
[06:42] <spiral> hello... does anyone here know wether gnome 2.12 will be backported to hoary as kde is ?
[06:42] <DrTiger> I guess the battery isn't compiled into the kernel....
[06:42] <magloff> Hoxzer^: rhythmbox
[06:42] <endy_x> Dr_Fate, if I don't find out now but do later on I'll PM you :)
[06:42] <DrTiger> but thats not possible to come over as long as I cant compile a working kernel here
[06:43] <DrTiger> I can't even burn a DVD
[06:43] <zip> how do i make gnome display the icons of my open applications in the menubar like Xfce does?
[06:44] <DrTiger> I just copy over some files to the nautilus burn window, click write to disc, insert it again, but it's impossible to mount it
[06:44] <Auriacan> are there motif library files for ubuntu?
[06:44] <JairunCaloth> blast it... what's the command to run a .deb
[06:44] <thrush_2> JairunCaloth, dpkg?
[06:44] <josip> JairunCaloth, dpkg -i package.deb
[06:45] <DVSoftware> JairunCaloth: sudo dpkg -i
[06:45] <Auriacan> alien works too
[06:45] <JairunCaloth> yea dpkg lol
[06:45] <JairunCaloth> allways forget that one
[06:45] <thrush_2> =)
[06:45] <Kvark> hard to remember random letter combinations
[06:45] <DrTiger> For the first time in two years I begin thinking about switching back to windows...
[06:45] <vanberge> anybody know the command in vi to substitute text?  :s/text//newtext    something like that?
[06:45] <DVSoftware> DrTiger: omg
[06:46] <Auriacan> wait for windows vista
[06:46] <danl> centrino... p4 or pm ?
[06:46] <DrTiger> or try using the "stable" ubuntu, but that hadnt battery support, working cd-r  etc either
[06:46] <DVSoftware> Auriacan: vista will be the greatest shit from ms
[06:46] <pussfeller> aint it :s/old/new/g ?
[06:46] <Auriacan> DVSoftware, it's still better then XP
[06:46] <vanberge> pussfeller, that is right.. im sure of it.
[06:46] <vanberge> ty!!
[06:47] <DVSoftware> Auriacan: why
[06:47] <Determinist> any idea if gnome 2.12 would be ready in some repo for downloading before breezy is out?
[06:47] <DVSoftware> it has more fancy colors?
[06:47] <pussfeller> yeah vista will be teh greatest shit about 2 years after its released as swiss cheese
[06:47] <adjacent> vanberge: its :%s/old/new/g to replace all occurences
[06:47] <pussfeller> just like xp was
[06:47] <Kvark> win 2k is quite good, very stable and kinda reasonable with the resource hogging
[06:47] <Auriacan> no, because of the "virutal folders" and file managment
[06:47] <DrTiger> determinist: you can upgrade to breezy
[06:48] <zip> how can i make gnome display the icons of my open applications in the menubar like Xfce does? so i right click the Gaim icon in the menu and such
[06:48] <DrTiger> determinist: if you are willing to spend a day making your system work again at all
[06:48] <Auriacan> plus vista is modular
[06:48] <pussfeller> i dont think xp is so bad once you turn teh display settings back to classic
[06:48] <Kvark> of course there is a lot of things missing in 2k too, like security
[06:48] <DVSoftware> Auriacan: linux is modular, too
[06:48] <pussfeller> linux like defines the word modular
[06:49] <DVSoftware> Auriacan: there will be modular viruses and worms
[06:49] <Auriacan> yes it is, but for gaming on my desktop, i still rather use windows
[06:49] <DVSoftware> so they'll just plug in
[06:49] <DVSoftware> :D
[06:49] <adjacent> vista will be ok, but you still have to use VB to configure it, or go through 501425234524 checkboxes and menus
[06:49] <Auriacan> but right now, i need motif include libraries
[06:50] <DrTiger> linux is modular in that it has thousands of modules that can make you stop doing anything with your system
[06:50] <pussfeller> i have found games that have been ported to both win and linux play better than on win
[06:50] <pussfeller> even half life under wine was quicker and more stable than on win
[06:50] <DrTiger> all depends on configuration
[06:50] <zip> puss: those two statements conflict
[06:50] <LazyAngel> does ubuntu work well with AMD Athlon 64 X2?
[06:51] <eva-02> too bad its a pain in the ass getting them to run in the first place
[06:51] <JairunCaloth> I run Star wars galaxies ( directx 9) in cedega, and it runs better in linux
[06:51] <eva-02> i still have no sound in quake2 :/
[06:51] <DrTiger> I find people get on extraordinarily well on Windows..
[06:51] <DVSoftware> LazyAngel: with smp kernel probably yes
[06:51] <Auriacan> OS wars is not what i'm interested in....
[06:51] <adjacent> DrTiger: hahahahahahahaha, then you have never worked tech support/pc service
[06:51] <JairunCaloth> however not all games work well in linux
[06:51] <DrTiger> I did
[06:51] <LazyAngel> DVSoftware: so that supports 64 bit plus 2 cpu's?
[06:51] <DrTiger> I don't mean everyone though
[06:51] <DVSoftware> JairunCaloth: i play gta san andreas in cedega
[06:51] <Kvark> 3D mark runs a lot better on win 98 then on win XP, haven't tried it in linux
[06:52] <pussfeller> most games arent ported natively like quake3 and ut were
[06:52] <DVSoftware> LazyAngel: why not?
[06:52] <adjacent> DrTiger: they "get along" fine for around 4-6 months then have to pay someone to reinstall windows because it so screwed up it barely boots
[06:52] <pussfeller> i would not want to do windows tech support over the phone
[06:52] <LazyAngel> DVSoftware: dunno :) i just have to make sure before buying a new computer. :) And MS will never touch it :P
[06:52] <Frafra> hi all
[06:52] <pussfeller> i cant imagine the torture involved
[06:52] <Frafra> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kBsVAL29.html
[06:52] <Frafra> what i must install?
[06:52] <Auriacan> i just want to mkae motif programs...
[06:52] <DrTiger> that's almost the same for me on linux, though I don't spend bucks, but spend about a few days working on it
[06:52] <Auriacan> make*
[06:53] <LazyAngel> Does anyone know who has the best drivers for linux? ATI or NVIDIA?
[06:53] <adjacent> DrTiger: hehe, sucks for you then =) i like my half-year to year uptimes on servers, and my desktop usually has an uptime of around a month
[06:53] <pussfeller> nvidia, hands down
[06:53] <JairunCaloth> can you install rpm's under ubuntu?
[06:54] <DrTiger> pussfeller: I've done it, and I think its easier to make a bad user get his windows going than solving these linux probs
[06:54] <LazyAngel> JairunCaloth: no
[06:54] <HiddenFly> how can i make a window transparent under gnome?
[06:54] <pussfeller> DrTiger: but with linux, if you have to, you can ssh in and fix it yourself
[06:54] <DrTiger> adjacent: My laptop can't run for a month because the battery usually runs out, as acpi won't show me the status ^ ^
[06:54] <DVSoftware> take a look at this
[06:54] <DVSoftware> http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark
[06:55] <Auriacan> motif? anyone?
[06:55] <pussfeller> i guess ms has some remote tools but i dont know how well they work
[06:55] <DrTiger> pussfeller: yeah that would be nice... but you need to find them in internet for example
[06:55] <DVSoftware> JairunCaloth: you can install rpms only if they don't depend on many other things
[06:55] <pussfeller> ya i can see how the networking could be a pain
[06:55] <pussfeller> routers, portforwarding and all
[06:56] <Frafra> who can help me? => http://rafb.net/paste/results/kBsVAL29.html
[06:56] <DrTiger> that's why ssh is only an option if you're prepared for it, and a plain ubuntu user isn't.
[06:56] <larsrohdin> is there a command to show my own ip?
[06:56] <DVSoftware> larsrohdin: ifconfig
[06:57] <DrTiger> ubuntu has a ssh server of course, but there's no point getting to it, if the user hasn't cared for that until now
[06:57] <magloff> ifconfig
[06:57] <pussfeller> Frafra: you need the x11 dev libraries
[06:57] <selinium> Hi all, anyone here installed a driver before?
[06:57] <Frafra> pussfeller: what packages i must install?
[06:57] <pussfeller> which are the windowing system that runs what you see on your screen, but the extra libraries and c headers and all so you can compile software against them
[06:58] <pussfeller> why are u using gpl flash anyways
[06:58] <larsrohdin> DVSoftware, yeah but i mean my external ip...
[06:58] <danl> compile in apm good or bad idea?
[06:58] <Frafra> pussfeller: i would use flash on amd64
[06:59] <Frafra> pussfeller: but those file, are there in a *-dev package?
[06:59] <pussfeller> Frafra: yes, but i dont know the exact name
[06:59] <Frafra> pussfeller: me too xD
[07:00] <Frafra> mmm...
[07:00] <Frafra> pussfeller: what i could try to install?
[07:00] <DrTiger> nobody here knows, when glx will work in breezy?
[07:01] <pussfeller> x-dev ?
[07:01] <Auriacan> there must be a way to get the motif libraries for ubuntu
[07:01] <laxise> i got a small problem my archive manager couldnt open a rar file because of the rar archive not supported
[07:01] <laxise> what do i got to do?
[07:01] <DVSoftware> DrTiger: glx works for me
[07:01] <DrTiger> for me it doesnt
[07:02] <Frafra> pussfeller: i've already it
[07:02] <DrTiger> somebody that it's broken in breezy
[07:02] <DrTiger> and I installed all the drivers ...
[07:03] <AzMoo> In windows I can click my mousewheel and it'll bring up a thing that allows me to scroll by moving my mouse up and down. Can I do this in ubuntu?
[07:03] <DrTiger> in ubuntu you can scroll with your mousewheel without clicking on i
[07:03] <DrTiger> t
[07:04] <DrTiger> clicking will result in the middle-mouse-action which can mean a lot of things depending on the aplication
[07:04] <AzMoo> I know, but my fingers are getting sore from rolling it up and down. I do a lot of scrolling.
[07:04] <windex> ubuntu even figured out how to use the mouse wheel on my keyboard
[07:04] <DrTiger> then try the keys
[07:04] <selinium> I am trying to install a driver for my webcam. It is failing during the make, can anyone help? Cheers
[07:04] <DrTiger> or click on the scrollbar
[07:04] <AzMoo> Is cool, I'll just develop a callus. I was hoping I wouldn't have to though ;)
[07:04] <DrTiger> should work just fine
[07:04] <laxise> i got a small problem my archive manager couldnt open a rar file because of the rar archive not supported
[07:05] <laxise> help pls
[07:05] <DrTiger> you can download unrar from apt
[07:05] <DrTiger> but it won't read every rar file
[07:05] <DVSoftware> laxise: unrar-nonfree should work fine
[07:05] <lolzk> How do I add resolutions here? Whilst setting up the resolution page confused me, when I tried to press enter to select to use more, it just continued with 1024x768 :\
[07:05] <laxise> DrTiger: i did that but it does not open any rar file
[07:05] <DVSoftware> laxise: unrar-nonfree should work fine
[07:06] <laxise> DVSoftare: also tried this
[07:06] <DVSoftware> hmm
[07:06] <DrTiger> some rare rars barely open with an unrar from a certain websites whose rare url my memory bares
[07:06] <laxise> DVSoftware: also tried this
[07:06] <laxise> sry
[07:06] <pussfeller> unrar -x file, or unrar x file maybe
[07:06] <DVSoftware> maybe rar has pass?
[07:06] <cavediver> Hi. It seems my gdm screen is displayed at a lower refresh-rate than my desktop. Anyone know where to change that ?
[07:06] <DrTiger> you have to use the command line
[07:06] <hmrocha> cavediver, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:06] <laxise> ok ill do this ... well see
[07:06] <hmrocha> hello
[07:06] <DrTiger> clever gnome does not know how to handle the second most common archiver
[07:07] <cavediver> hmrocha: hmrocha can you be more specifiv ?
[07:07] <DVSoftware> i have no problems in ark
[07:07] <pussfeller> they took it out of gwenview too
[07:07] <cavediver> -v/+c
[07:07] <hmrocha> cavediver, the resolution used by gdm is the first resolution you find in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:07] <CzarAlex> I need to install libqt3-dev but doing so says I must remove the KDE package. ..can I continue to use KDE -and- have the libqt3-dev package installeD?
[07:07] <cavediver> ok
[07:07] <hmrocha> cavediver, you can change the resolution of gdm, to the resolution you use in gnome
[07:07] <Auriacan> ok, does someone know how to compile motif programs on ubuntu
[07:07] <selinium> cavediver: have you tried system/preferences/screen resolution  ?
[07:08] <hmrocha> in ubuntu wiki, they say to install flash-nonfree
[07:08] <hmrocha> i can't find that package!
[07:08] <cavediver> selinium: yes, it workes. But not on gdm
[07:08] <hmrocha> i only have libflash-mozplugin
[07:08] <hmrocha> but it's really bad, firefox crashes a lot
[07:08] <lolzk> And also, all my resolutuoins in system -> screen resolutions are locked to 60hz, how do I add more modes? :\
[07:08] <DVSoftware> !info flash-nonfree
[07:08] <selinium> cavediver, OK, do you scuba then?
[07:08] <CzarAlex> hmrocha, do you have your repositories installed?
[07:08] <cavediver> selinium: yes.
[07:08] <DVSoftware> hmm
[07:08] <hmrocha> yes
[07:08] <selinium> cavediver, DIR?
[07:08] <CzarAlex> hmrocha, hmm. sorry. that was my only suggestion.
[07:09] <hmrocha> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:09] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[07:09] <cavediver> selinium: more of hogarthian, not full-dir by any means
[07:09] <hmrocha> CzarAlex, i think i have multiverse, i'll double check that
[07:10] <selinium> cavediver: Cool, I am a BSAC/PADI diver. I am making connectors for uwatec dive computer for linux! ANd there is alot of DC linux software out there.
[07:10] <cavediver> selinium: nice.
[07:10] <lolzk> anyone? :'(
[07:10] <luite> has anyone here succeeded in getting the ati proprietary driver working in breezy? I'm getting a DRI version warning when using the 6.8.x driver, and unresolved symbols when using the 6.9.x driver
[07:10] <cavediver> well.. time to reboot x then
[07:10] <hmrocha> CzarAlex, i didn't have multiverse, only universe :)
[07:10] <hmrocha> CzarAlex, thanks very much
[07:11] <thrush_2> lolzk, i believe you will need to edit the xorg.conf file
[07:11] <CzarAlex> Im trying to install Kmuddy but get this error: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! - I have installed every package with QT in it except for libqt3-dev ..synaptic says installing that will uninstall the KDE package.. will that prevent me from using KDE? Will installing that package solve my problem?
[07:11] <CzarAlex> hmrocha, no prob! glad I could help
[07:12] <cavediver> Have you guys had tor abuse or why are we banned ?
[07:12] <selinium> cavediver, http://www.linuxdiving.org/software/general/
[07:13] <lolzk> thrush_2, thanks, but what folder specifically?
[07:13] <cavediver> selinium: nice work.
[07:16] <delmonico> hi :) is there a way to display all installed packages from a specific repository?
[07:17] <WhiteRabbit> synaptic
[07:17] <thrush_2> lolzk, i think you might have to define horizontal and vertical sync for your monitor in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file do you have your monitors manual?
[07:17] <delmonico> WhiteRabbit: I tried with filters but i couldn't do it
[07:17] <delmonico> looks like I need to write a script for the task :/
[07:17] <WhiteRabbit> without filters to show all I would think
[07:19] <thrush_2> offtopic: anyone here speak mandarin?
[07:19] <kurt> I talk to oranges all the time
[07:20] <delmonico> kurt: haha, nice one :)
[07:21] <_SWAT_> does anyone have an idea where I can find a compiled Quake2?
[07:21] <lolzk> New problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure...
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> _SWAT_, ehm.. yeah on warez sites...
[07:21] <garnett> hello
[07:21] <garnett> o
[07:21] <garnett> gnu hello
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> because it's not free software
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> hello garnett
[07:21] <_SWAT_> GNU-GPL, why, it's under the GPL right?
[07:21] <garnett> how are you
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> _SWAT_, no, the engine is.. the content isn't
[07:21] <lolzk> and yes, it is the right password, tried with about 5
[07:22] <CzarAlex> does `make` sometimes take awhile..and hang on screens with a bunch of code?
[07:22] <garnett> gnu be rigt back
[07:22] <garnett> eating
[07:22] <_SWAT_> GNU-GPL, hmmm. OK. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info
[07:22] <GNU-GPL> yw
[07:22] <Tomcat_> Compiled Quake2? Why shouldn't he find it? .o
[07:22] <Tomcat_> Maybe there's someone out there who compiled it? :o
[07:22] <lolzk> unless someone knows how to run
[07:22] <WhiteRabbit> thrush_2, Knee HoMA
[07:22] <GNU-GPL> Quake2 is a game
[07:23] <GNU-GPL> commercial
[07:23] <lolzk> *how to edit xorg.conf without logging into root, that would also do, but I could really do with access to root...
[07:23] <WhiteRabbit> Quake 3 is GPL'ed
[07:23] <Tomcat_> GNU-GPL: Yeah, but the source is free. :)
[07:23] <WhiteRabbit> Quake 3 is free
[07:23] <HiddenWolf> How can I mount an iso?
[07:23] <GNU-GPL> you're all wrong here
[07:23] <Tomcat_> GNU-GPL: So there might still be a compiled Quake2 without any content, and it's free.
[07:23] <parsifal_> HiddenWolf: mount -t iso9660?
[07:23] <GNU-GPL> look.. if you say Quake2 or 3 you mean the game
[07:23] <parsifal_> HiddenWolf: or mount -t isofs?
[07:23] <Tomcat_> No, I mean the engine right now.
[07:24] <GNU-GPL> what you mean is quake 2 ENGINE
[07:24] <parsifal_> HiddenWolf: isofs is meant for iso files, I think
[07:24] <Tomcat_> And the engines of Quake2 and Quake3 are free.
[07:24] <GNU-GPL> right
[07:24] <WhiteRabbit> GNU-GPL, Anyone can take the source & compile the game now
[07:24] <Tomcat_> And so he might find a compiled version somewhere.
[07:24] <GNU-GPL> the engines are free indeed
[07:24] <Tomcat_> But no content of course.
[07:24] <GNU-GPL> right
[07:24] <WhiteRabbit> you just need the formula & wala you can create a perfect copy of the game
[07:24] <parsifal_> I was able to install Ubuntu to an external firewire hdd, but I was not able to boot off of this hdd.  Is this a known issue, or did I set up the partitions or something, or?
[07:25] <GNU-GPL> WhiteRabbit, only the engine can be compiled, coz the content isn't included (proprietary)
[07:25] <CzarAlex> parsifal_, I was under the impresesion that you can't run an operating system off an external HD. But..I don't know very much. Perhaps thats just with windows.
[07:25] <Whistler> hi
[07:25] <parsifal_> CzarAlex: OS X allows you to boot off the firewire hdd
[07:25] <GNU-GPL> hi
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> GNU-GPL, well thats just a shame
[07:25] <lolzk> New problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure... :'(
[07:25] <Tomcat_> CzarAlex: Does work with Linux... not easy, but it does work. :o
[07:26] <parsifal_> CzarAlex: you just have to hold down 'f' or something
[07:26] <DarkEagle> Jeah, I made it... I used other pc (has cd-rom drive, my laptop doesn't) installet pcmcia-cs and now network works :))
[07:26] <CzarAlex> there we go! I stand corrected :)
[07:26] <WhiteRabbit> CzarAlex, you could research the mandriva globtrotter to soup you external install up some
[07:26] <Alinux> hello, can I install Brezzy .iso on a partition without burning .iso image file?
[07:26] <neighborlee> fresh install of hoary  from few months ago and no seeming problems till today..I booted and was dropped ( no errors that I see if x log file though) to shell..startx did nothing so I ran gdm which started fine, and wondering if anyone else has seen this or knows where to look to verify why this happened ???
[07:26] <GNU-GPL> WhiteRabbit, no not really.. it's given free, to let game programmers learn about the code or to write a new game (gpl'd) arround it.
[07:26] <WhiteRabbit> Alinux, mount the iso & do a nfs install
[07:27] <Alinux> WhiteRabbit, howto?
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> GNU-GPL, O well I'll play it for free anyways
[07:27] <Hakis> Does Ubuntu have any standard images/wallpapers installed? except the original one... if so, where are those?
[07:27] <CzarAlex> does `make` sometimes take..a very long time?
[07:27] <parsifal_> Alinux: mount -t isofs
[07:27] <parsifal_> Alinux: I dunno how to do the nfs part.. sounds like you might need two computers
[07:28] <GNU-GPL> CzarAlex, sometimes yes
[07:28] <Alinux> no I have only 1 PC
[07:28] <CzarAlex> Hakis, I haven't seen any. I got some nice ones at gnome-look.org and kde-look.org
[07:28] <GNU-GPL> depends on the code what needs to be compiled.
[07:28] <Hakis> CzarAlex, k, Ill check it out, thx
[07:28] <CzarAlex> Hakis, no prob
[07:29] <thrush_2> Hakis, deviantart.com usually has some nice stuff
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> Alinux, xnesting install
[07:29] <Alinux> I know how mount a ISO, but I don't know how install it then
[07:29] <CzarAlex> GNU-GPL, Okay. Ive been wathcing the same code spill on to the screen every 60 seconds or so.
[07:29] <parsifal_> Alinux: how would you install Linux without using a CD or something?
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> Alinux, Or you can play with the big boy & use Xen
[07:29] <CzarAlex> always ending with `fi` on a single line.
[07:29] <Alinux> parsifal_, I have .iso of Colony 4
[07:29] <parsifal_> Alinux: you could make an ISO image of an installed partition, but you'd have to set up booting junk too, I think
[07:29] <parsifal_> Alinux: I've never really done this
[07:29] <parsifal_> what is Colony 4?
[07:29] <Hakis> trush_2: yah, been there hundred times :)
[07:30] <parsifal_> oh it's a beta
[07:30] <Alinux> xnesting install?
[07:30] <parsifal_> what was added in Colony so far?
[07:30] <Alinux> what's this WhiteRabbit ? :)
[07:30] <garnett> gnu coming
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> Alinux, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/screenshots/index.html think of vmware for free in linux without all the bottlenecks
[07:31] <garnett> white rabbir
[07:31] <garnett> t
[07:31] <garnett> hello
[07:31] <mark_> anyone use rox-filer?
[07:31] <garnett> mar hello
[07:31] <Alinux> WhiteRabbit, thanks :) so I must use XEN :)
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, type the first few chars of a nick then hit tab
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> Alinux, you aint gotta do anything
[07:31] <Alinux> I need to install Colony on real partition not virtual.
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> it's up to you what & how you do it ;)~
[07:31] <CzarAlex> all I want to do is install kmuddy. why does it have to be so difficult?
[07:32] <garnett> how you do it
[07:32] <mark_> anyone know where the option to turn off diplaying the contents of windows in ROX is?
[07:32] <garnett> hello
[07:33] <garnett> why m speaking
[07:33] <mik3> what are some fun applications to keep my bored ass entertained
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, nmap nessus saint!
[07:33] <mik3> haha
[07:33] <garnett> hahha
[07:33] <garnett> mik too funny
[07:34] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, Enemy Territory works to
[07:34] <mik3> what's enemy territory
[07:34] <garnett> gnu-gpl
[07:34] <GNU-GPL> multiplay game
[07:34] <GNU-GPL> free
[07:34] <garnett> hey
[07:34] <GNU-GPL> hey
[07:34] <garnett> gnu
[07:34] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, Hydra would be fun to
[07:34] <garnett> coming
[07:34] <WhiteRabbit> out
[07:34] <mik3> first person shooter or what
[07:34] <jvl> hi
[07:34] <mik3> this box is slow as hell
[07:35] <garnett> shooter
[07:35] <GNU-GPL> Enemy territory is a fps
[07:35] <garnett> wowwwwww
[07:35] <garnett> where
[07:35] <garnett> it game
[07:35] <mik3> i'm running a pII 450 192mb, i need dopewars or something haha
[07:35] <CzarAlex> does this make sense to anyone? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2019 it keeps repeating itself on my screen every few seconds when i used the MAKE command to build Kmuddy
[07:35] <garnett> gnu
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, http://www.3dgamers.com/games/wolfensteinet/screenshots/
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, it's free as quake 3's * cough * engine
[07:36] <GNU-GPL> hahaha
[07:36] <GNU-GPL> only WITH content
[07:36] <GNU-GPL> :)
[07:36] <garnett> gnu
[07:36] <garnett> helle
[07:36] <maruchan> is their a way to use the open file opition in azureus
[07:36] <garnett> gnu-gpl hello
[07:36] <mik3> WhiteRabbit : yeah but can i run it on a pII 450 192mb of ram with a craptacular AGP vid card
[07:37] <mik3> garnett : what the hell is your problem, cletus?
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> onelinerguy, like stop n stuff lol
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, yes
[07:37] <mik3> WhiteRabbit : solid.
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> mik3, it's not a ALL your Video Card ram are to belong to us kinda game
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> but yet it looks Nice very nice
[07:37] <garnett> NO
[07:37] <CzarAlex> mik3, craptacular? I have a few computer components made by those guys.
[07:37] <GNU-GPL> infact it's lightweighted
[07:37] <garnett> problem
[07:37] <mik3> CzarAlex : lol
[07:37] <GNU-GPL> (kind)
[07:37] <maruchan> no one use azeroues?
[07:37] <jvl> im having a small problem with synaptic. if i mark a package for installation my sinaptic window closes. if i mark it to reinstall it works fine. any ideas?
[07:38] <GNU-GPL> maruchan, i doo
[07:38] <GNU-GPL> err
[07:38] <GNU-GPL> do
[07:38] <garnett> gnu-gpl hello
[07:38] <WhiteRabbit> maruchan, java bittorrent
[07:38] <garnett> how are you
[07:38] <WhiteRabbit> maruchan, You wanna edit the az.sh & lower the ram from 128 to 64 megs before you even ask
[07:38] <GNU-GPL> garnett, fine.. thank you
[07:38] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[07:39] <maruchan> I have no problems with it, i just want to figure out how to use the open file opition in it
[07:39] <toxicle> whois toxicle
[07:39] <toxicle> sorry :)
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> you choose a torrent file
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> & away you go with it
[07:40] <garnett> gnu eat
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> although your gonna wanna open the ports 6881 both tcp & udp
[07:40] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> gnu idle
[07:40] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> ;)
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> GNU-GPL_IDLE, but your in xchat
[07:40] <garnett> :)
[07:40] <garnett> yea
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> why not use the away fuction!
[07:40] <garnett> because
[07:40] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> yes.. will do
[07:41] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> damn you guys are quick
[07:41] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> :P
[07:41] <garnett> :D
[07:41] <poningru> you know what the original nautilus dev just said?
[07:41] <garnett> gnu too funny
[07:41] <jvl> maruchan: you use the open file option in azureus to load a torrent file that you have on your FS
[07:41] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, just change your name to Ed Mcmann right now
[07:41] <garnett> why
[07:42] <maruchan> ahh, so it wont open the file i downloaded
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, your like a comic supporter actor
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> yes
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> ahaha
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> to funny
[07:42] <garnett> :)
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> ;D
[07:42] <garnett> ;D
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> :)
[07:42] <GNU-GPL_IDLE> :(
[07:43] <mik3> garnett is one of God's prototypes, too weird to live, too rare to die.
[07:43] <garnett> what my writing colur gnu-gpl
[07:43] <Muffie> hello all. Is it possible to upgrade my ubuntu to latest Gnome 2.12 through apt-get?
[07:43] <mik3> muffie you should just use the apt-get update for that kind of crap
[07:43] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, why do you wanna do that
[07:43] <garnett> white rabbit how old are you
[07:44] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, to use the latest version!
[07:44] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, you must of mistaken this for AOL chat ;)~
[07:44] <Muffie> mik3, apt-get update gnome should do that?
[07:44] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, for what reason though?
[07:44] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, well.. seems prettier! :)
[07:44] <garnett> are you mns adress
[07:44] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, What caused that?
[07:44] <garnett> white rabbit
[07:44] <Fraeon> Graah. I'm stumped.
[07:44] <mik3> Muffie : i would assume so, i may be perfectly wrong but i would assume updating via apt-get would cover all corners
[07:45] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, You're running some kind of chatterbot!? :)
[07:45] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, I'm a ghost in a turkish shell...
[07:45] <jvl> maruchan: with that option you'll be able to select one of the torrents files you have on your FS and then select the location to where you want to download it to
[07:45] <garnett> yea
[07:45] <garnett> speaking turkish
[07:45] <GNU-GPL> pom pom
[07:46] <garnett> white rabbit
[07:46] <GNU-GPL> whoami
[07:46] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, I was just waiting for you to say I want the new gnome because it has Cairo thats all
[07:46] <garnett> speaking turkish white rabbit
[07:47] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, http://www.osnews.com/img/11800/gnome1.png
[07:47] <Muffie> :)
[07:47] <Bateau_> how do i completly uninstall a .deb package?
[07:47] <garnett> what are you msn adress white rabbit
[07:48] <lapo> Bateau_, dpkg --purge package
[07:48] <GNU-GPL> garnett, priv message
[07:48] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, Visual first! Functionality later! im feeling LAMMAH right now!
[07:48] <Bateau_> tanks lapo :)
[07:48] <Goshawk> is there somebody running breezy here?
[07:48] <beekay> is there any explaination for the xmms m4a plugin not working?
[07:49] <garnett> no
[07:49] <beekay> :)
[07:49] <mik3> what's m4a?
[07:49] <beekay> a file type
[07:49] <beekay> for music
[07:49] <reiki_work> unprotected m4p
[07:49] <Bateau_> that didnt work lapo :P
[07:50] <lapo> Bateau_, you need sudo
[07:50] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, So, its just use apt-get update
[07:50] <Bateau_> i did use sudo
[07:51] <lapo> Bateau_, that is the command, perhaps you use a wrong package name?
[07:51] <GNU-GPL> wrong button
[07:51] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[07:51] <Bateau_> yeah, i did :) thanks for the help lapo :)
[07:51] <garnett> gnu
[07:51] <GNU-GPL> yes
[07:52] <lapo> Bateau_, np
[07:52] <Muffie> mik3, apt-get update, just updates the list of software to install, isnt it?
[07:53] <ubuntu> :-D
[07:53] <ubuntu> nice nick I have
[07:53] <garnett> GNU-GPL coming private room
[07:54] <ubuntu> just checking what kind of program this X-Chat is
[07:54] <ubuntu> so good night everybody
[07:54] <sbartleylinux> Looking for information on creating an Ubuntu based light distribution using xorg, xfce, firefox, thunderbird and our own application sets.  Any recommendations on where to start looking?
[07:54] <garnett> YEA
[07:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello
[07:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> Im having a problem with terminal and root terminal....not commands but the actual program..can someone help me?
[07:56] <garnett> gnu gpl
[07:56] <garnett> hello
[07:56] <garnett> thering
[07:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> u talkin to me garnett?
[07:57] <garnett> yes
[07:57] <garnett> u
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> oh hehe hi
[07:58] <garnett> hi
[07:58] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik what's the problem
[07:58] <garnett> how are you sonny
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> my terminal just opens and closes
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> good and u?
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> root terminal opens but i cant type in it
[07:58] <garnett> whats your problem sonny
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> root terminal opens but i cant type in it
[07:59] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik : try running a regular terminal and typing sudo -s
[07:59] <mik3> what does it do
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> just a blinking cursor
[07:59] <garnett> where are you from
[07:59] <DVSoftware> garnett: stop spamming for god's sake
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> ct.
[07:59] <mik3> garnett is like our own channel Fezz
[07:59] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, ya turkey!
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> i cant type in it
[07:59] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik : in sudo -s?
[08:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> in the root terminal...i cant type
[08:00] <kurt> am I the only one that thinks it's silly that in gnome 2.12 they have a network servers tick in "Places" on the menu bar, but not in nautilus itself?
[08:00] <garnett> white rabbit you in the turkey
[08:00] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik : open a regular terminal , gnome terminal or whatever, and type sudo -s
[08:00] <garnett> ????????????
[08:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> none of them work mik3
[08:01] <garnett> white rabbit
[08:01] <garnett> ????????????
[08:01] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, My Stove Top is for sure
[08:01] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik : interesting.
[08:01] <Red_Bullet> pleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!???
[08:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehe more like frustrating
[08:01] <mik3> Sonny_Wertzik : that too.
[08:01] <WhiteRabbit> Sonny_Wertzik, ctrl+c
[08:01] <garnett> you can speaking turkish white rabbit
[08:01] <WhiteRabbit> whats that do for ya
[08:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> control c?
[08:02] <DVSoftware> garnett: please keep off topic out of this channel
[08:02] <WhiteRabbit> garnett,   !
[08:02] <garnett> why
[08:02] <garnett> dvsoftware
[08:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> control c = nothing
[08:02] <DVSoftware> garnett: because this is ubuntu help channel
[08:03] <DVSoftware> not chit-chat channel
[08:03] <WhiteRabbit> Sonny_Wertzik, so your window focus is all fscked up I take it?
[08:03] <MaxeyPad> i'm just curuious, by default why does ubuntu not ship with mp3 support
[08:03] <Red_Bullet> pleeease help me i was tryed 2 way to start my tv-out with edit xorg.conf with nvtv but NOTHING i can't start tv-out when i was start nvtv SEGMENTATION FAULT what to do !!!???
[08:03] <MaxeyPad> or for that matter, why does it not ship with the video codecs etc
[08:03] <DVSoftware> MaxeyPad: because it's restricted format
[08:03] <kurt> MaxeyPad: It's a propriety formate
[08:03] <MaxeyPad> I see
[08:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> whta?s window focus
[08:03] <kurt> format, too
[08:03] <MaxeyPad> I was unaware of that
[08:03] <MaxeyPad> thanks
[08:03] <Red_Bullet> :(
[08:03] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, what DVSoftware is trying to say *rolls eyes* is that your farting out more noise than helpful comments
[08:03] <garnett> nothing keep off topic out of this channel
[08:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> everything works except the terminals
[08:04] <DVSoftware> WhiteRabbit: i bet garnett is some stinky bot
[08:04] <WhiteRabbit> Sonny_Wertzik, well lets get a new term!
[08:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok
[08:04] <WhiteRabbit> DVSoftware, Just because he is from the nation of fraud means nothing ;)~
[08:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> what do i do?
[08:05] <garnett> am  problem
[08:05] <WhiteRabbit> Sonny_Wertzik, you want a boring shell or a erotic sexy shell
[08:05] <garnett> what
[08:05] <WhiteRabbit> Sonny_Wertzik, install aterm
[08:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> what u think?
[08:05] <DVSoftware> garnett: problem is that you are talking bullshit
[08:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> thehe
[08:05] <WhiteRabbit> aterm is sexy
[08:05] <daysleper> Sonny_Wertzik,  maybe you could try:    ctrl-alt-f1  gives you the text-mode terminal ..   ctrl-alt-f7 switches you back to graphics-mode (Gnome)
[08:05] <mik3> konsole <3
[08:05] <WhiteRabbit> killall gnome-session although that my very well log you out sometimes
[08:05] <garnett> m not outing this channel
[08:06] <WhiteRabbit> garnett, really?
[08:06] <garnett> yes
[08:06] <mik3> garnett: do elephants poop in the ocean?
[08:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> okya u know i didnt try that yet but id like the term to work in ggui
[08:06] <garnett> no
[08:06] <mik3> garnett : what is 5 + 5 = ?
[08:06] <trygvebw> Why was "Run Application" removed?
[08:06] <garnett> 10
[08:06] <trygvebw> From the menu?
[08:06] <No1Viking> 10
[08:06] <mik3> no he's real, just stupid
[08:07] <amo-ej1> anybody got vlc working under ubuntu ? with me most encoders (when transcoding) like mp4 and mp3 are not found
[08:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> in aterm in synaptic manager?
[08:07] <daysleper> Sonny_Wertzik, sure .. but try starting gnome-terminal from the command-line in the text-mode terminal ..  it should give you some messages if it fails
[08:07] <sbartleylinux>  Looking for information on creating an Ubuntu based light distribution using xorg, xfce, firefox, thunderbird and our own application sets.  Any recommendations on where to start looking?
[08:07] <Hoxzer^> how do I remove programs?
[08:07] <trygvebw> sbartleylinux: wiki
[08:07] <sorush20> what program will tell you the usage of your hdd
[08:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok day i will try it
[08:07] <bur[n] er> !tell amo-ej1 about restrictedformats
[08:07] <bur[n] er> sorush20: gnome-system-monitor
[08:07] <Hoxzer^> oh, nonthing. Figured it :)
[08:07] <garnett> mik3:  99*99=?
[08:08] <sbartleylinux> trygvebw, I have been there all day and find nothing that helps with the question of creating a light ubuntu based distro.  can you give more specifics?
[08:08] <amo-ej1> !tell bur[n] er about faad ?
[08:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> if it fails ...should i try aterm?
[08:08] <trygvebw> sbartleylinux: hmm
[08:08] <trygvebw> sbartleylinux: i think you should try asking on #ubuntu-devel
[08:08] <trygvebw> because
[08:08] <trygvebw> that is more of a developer related thing
[08:08] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, r u there?
[08:08] <trygvebw> *development
[08:08] <sbartleylinux> k
[08:08] <bur[n] er> amo-ej1: ?
[08:08] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, sometimes I am
[08:08] <trygvebw> :)
[08:08] <amo-ej1> bur[n] er, faad is an open source AAC (mp4) codec
[08:08] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, so, i have used apt-get install gnome. But I still have 2.10...
[08:09] <garnett> linux game downloading
[08:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> daysleper:       if it fails ...should i try aterm?
[08:09] <amo-ej1> imo nothing restricted about it
[08:09] <mik3> Muffie : www.gnome.org should have information on updating repositories to grab their latest and greatest, you should check with them
[08:09] <bur[n] er> amo-ej1: now that I think about it, vlc uses its own codecs right?  not based on gstreamer or xine?
[08:09] <daysleper> Sonny_Wertzik, uhm .. dunno, it kinda shouldn't fail ..
[08:09] <WhiteRabbit> google.com/linux is broken atm lol
[08:10] <bur[n] er> but for kicks, did you search apt for faad?
[08:10] <amo-ej1> indeed
[08:10] <Muffie> mik3, so, its not at Ubuntu repository yet?
[08:10] <amo-ej1> but it fails to detect mp3/mp4  codecs
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, because your not grabbing off the right repo
[08:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehe ok bb in a few
[08:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> thank you
[08:10] <bur[n] er> amo-ej1: to play or to encode to?
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, the ubuntu your in now will not have 2.12 but yet the next version will
[08:10] <amo-ej1> bur[n] er, to encode
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> Muffie, you are gonna need to find someones repo were they did all the hard work for ya first
[08:11] <bur[n] er> amo-ej1: you have the lame mp3 encoder?
[08:11] <Muffie> WhiteRabbit, so, as mik3 told, i have to check for a UBUNTU repository at gnome.org?
[08:11] <amo-ej1> bur[n] er, tried to installed it, but vlc still game the same error
[08:12] <bur[n] er> amo-ej1: apt-get install vlc-plugin* ??
[08:12] <amo-ej1> bur[n] er,  those are only output plugins like oss, alsa, sdl
[08:13] <amo-ej1> not encoders/decoders
[08:13] <sorush20> is there anything that tells you what the usage of your hdd is like..
[08:13] <amo-ej1> sorush20, df
[08:13] <Hoxzer^> df -h
[08:14] <sorush20> what is the good backup utiligy
[08:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hello again....i found the problem but i cant fix it
[08:14] <darkie|ubuntu> HI.. can you tell me how to get this irrssi whit beter outfit than terminal, or can't I? Or should I use X chat?
[08:15] <daysleper> darkie|ubuntu, x-chat is nice
[08:16] <Hoxzer^> can somebody help me to setup TV-out in nvidia card?
[08:17] <sordic> how can i install wxpython2.6 on hoary without broking the packages ?
[08:17] <shinu> darkie|ubuntu: irssi is for terminals only from what i know
[08:17] <darkie|ubuntu> people (my some friends) allways talk about irssi, so I tried ... :/
[08:17] <shinu> im using irssi right now
[08:17] <shinu> i really like it
[08:17] <darkie|ubuntu> shinu: from terminal only?
[08:17] <shinu> its 'lighter' than xchat though it took me some time to get used to it
[08:17] <Hoxzer^> Irssi is good when you have a server where you can run it :)
[08:18] <shinu> darkie|ubuntu: sorry?
[08:19] <shinu> darkie|ubuntu: irssi is text mode only
[08:19] <shinu> if you want graphical stuff (ie. youre rather new to linux) try xchat
[08:20] <daysleper> btw. does irssi have support for utf-8 ..?
[08:20] <Hoxzer^> strange beep media player just crashes when I try to play mp3's with it
[08:21] <darkie|ubuntu> damn that irc in gaim was so bad.. and there is no linux version of trillian
[08:21] <darkie|ubuntu> daysleper: utf-8 included what characters?
[08:22] <darkie|ubuntu> (I can't remembe all things :) )
[08:22] <daysleper> darkie|ubuntu, what?     at least Norwegian ones:    ... heh
[08:22] <shinu> daysleper: maybe try that question on #irssi
[08:22] <spola> suppose i have a directory containing the original source, and a diffrent one containing my modified code. how would i go about making a file containing the changes between the files?
[08:23] <kung> hi there
[08:23] <darkie|ubuntu> daysleper: at least I get those right :)
[08:23] <timtux> Hi, just have an question. Does somone knows if VIA UniChrome PRO IGP (GFX card) ( K8N800 ) will be supported in breezy?
[08:23] <kung> does ubuntu have an auto start file like local.start in gentoo?
[08:25] <darkie|ubuntu> :I I had cood idea to take freenode to 2. tab, but alt was used for tabs and irssi tabs ...damn... so see you again -->
[08:25] <Frafra> hi all
[08:25] <Frafra> http://rafb.net/paste/results/OtPuvc23.html
[08:26] <Frafra> who can help me?
[08:27] <puff> When resuming from suspend-to-disk, frequently the wireless card doesn't show up.  Doing apt-get --reinstall linux-image and rebooting fixes this.... for a day or two, until it disappears again.
[08:27] <puff> Frafra: What's your question?
[08:27] <Frafra> puff: make crash => http://rafb.net/paste/results/OtPuvc23.html
[08:27] <puff> Is there a good mailing list for more this sort of problem?
[08:27] <Seveas> Frafra, do as the error message says, recompile with -fpic
[08:27] <unatural> i got problem
[08:27] <unatural> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get -f upgrade; sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:27] <unatural> oops
[08:27] <unatural> :|
[08:27] <unatural> dpkg: error processing gtkboard (--configure):
[08:27] <unatural>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9
[08:27] <unatural> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:27] <unatural>  gtkboard
[08:28] <Frafra> Seveas: yes, but i don't know where i must put it
[08:28] <Seveas> unreal, DO NOT PASTE in here!
[08:28] <unatural> oops
[08:28] <unatural> sry
[08:28] <unatural> =\
[08:28] <Seveas> Frafra, try adding it to the CFLAGS in the makefile
[08:28] <Frafra> CFLAGS = -g -O2
[08:28] <unatural> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2020
[08:28] <E0x> hello
[08:28] <Frafra> i'll add -fPIC
[08:28] <unatural> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2020 - how can i fix it
[08:29] <puff> Firefox occasionally seems to be hanging on me.  Finally have to kill it.  This is the most up to date firefox in ubuntu's apt archives, 1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1
[08:29] <Herbert> hey, all
[08:29] <Seveas> unatural, purgr gtkboard again
[08:29] <Seveas> purge*
[08:29] <Seveas> the package is broken
[08:29] <E0x> somebody know what i need have for get the automount like ubuntu does it ?
[08:29] <Herbert> Does Ubuntu have a nice graphical program so I can format and partition an external hard-drive I have on my system or do I have to do it on the command line? :)
[08:29] <Frafra> Seveas: I've do it, i've save the file, i've do sudo make but the error is the same
[08:30] <Seveas> NEVER do sudo make
[08:30] <Seveas> make can be done as normal user
[08:30] <unatural> purge?
[08:30] <unatural> :\
[08:30] <Seveas> aptitude purge gtkboard
[08:30] <Hakis|Ubuntu> Seveas, Is doing things in sudo that can be done as norma user not smart?
[08:31] <Determinist> i think i've finally come to terms with my system under ubuntu, everything works the way i need it to :)
[08:31] <Pyf> what is a good audio editing program
[08:31] <Pyf> #?
[08:31] <Seveas> Hakis|Ubuntu, it's not just 'not smart' it's the cause of many problems
[08:31] <puff> Hakis|Ubuntu: Generally, not smart.
[08:31] <Frafra> Seveas: the error is the same
[08:31] <neighborlee> Pyf, audacity is pretty nice
[08:31] <Herbert> I see a "floppy formatter", but I don't see a hard-drive formatter. :)
[08:31] <Seveas> Fraeon, ask on a gplflash specific place then
[08:31] <Hakis|Ubuntu> How can that be a problem?
[08:31] <Seveas> Frafra*
[08:31] <Herbert> I just installed the system. That's the only thing I need to know.
[08:32] <Frafra> ok
[08:32] <Pyf> neighborlee, does that do dj like things?
[08:32] <Herbert> Everything works great.
[08:32] <Seveas> Herbert, mkfs
[08:32] <Herbert> *sigh*
[08:32] <Herbert> very well
[08:32] <neighborlee> Pyf, like what
[08:32] <Seveas> I don't know of a gui hard drive formatter
[08:32] <Herbert> Seveas, Mandrake had one.
[08:32] <Seveas> mkfs does the job pretty well
[08:32] <Herbert> Yes.
[08:32] <Seveas> Herbert, do you happen to know the name of the thing?
[08:33] <Herbert> Seveas, hm. I don't. :(
[08:33] <garnett> hello
[08:33] <Herbert> It was useful when you had several drives you wanted to partition and format.
[08:33] <garnett> herbert hello
[08:33] <Pyf> neighborlee, ill get it then ;)
[08:33] <Herbert> hi, gabaug
[08:34] <garnett> how are you
[08:34] <Absenth> is there a page that lists what improvements Breezy is going to have over Hoary?
[08:34] <garnett> ???????
[08:35] <garnett> how are youuuu
[08:35] <garnett> absenth
[08:35] <garnett> heyyyyyyyyyy
[08:35] <Seveas> Absenth, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12
[08:35] <BollocksMacenzie> I'm trying to find out if it's possible to boot grub with windows xp & 98 on 1 partitioned hdd and linux on the other. Is it possible?
[08:35] <Seveas> garnett, please don't come in here if you come just to annoy people, this is the thirdt time today
[08:35] <Seveas> BollocksMacenzie, it is
[08:36] <Absenth> Thanks Seveas
[08:36] <BollocksMacenzie> It's just I've tried to before and it didn't work! For some reason it couldn't find Windows 98... Does it have to be after a sertain sector?
[08:36] <jcd1006> everytime i try to change preferences in firefox it gives me errors along with now when i try to pri
[08:37] <jcd1006> nt it does the same thing
[08:37] <jcd1006> and it won't print
[08:37] <Absenth> edubuntu looks great.
[08:39] <aimaz> i changed my repository to breezy, if i notice a problem where should i report it?
[08:39] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: Does the Windows 98 partition have to be *before* a certain sector of the drive? I've heard of problems?
[08:40] <Seveas> windows98 likes to be the first on the drive
[08:40] <Absenth> dist-upgrade to breezy in progress.
[08:40] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: Well I thought that Windows XP would like to be the first.
[08:40] <Seveas> XP can perfectly fine be second
[08:41] <WhiteRabbit> XP likes to be 2nd
[08:41] <Absenth> BollocksMacenzie: xp will work anywhere, including the 4th hard drive.  he's right 98 is pretty partial to being first.
[08:41] <environ> i'm using ubuntu amd64. installed the official ati drivers, seems to work but, as soon as i try to run a gl programm it says: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:41] <WhiteRabbit> remember the dual boot 98 & XP or 2000 & XP would always go 2nd
[08:41] <environ> even though these files exist
[08:42] <WhiteRabbit> environ, I had that problem once but I fixed it
[08:42] <BollocksMacenzie> Which partition would be better for each?
[08:42] <WhiteRabbit> environ, but my fix takes about a hour to do
[08:42] <environ> what did you do? :) nvm
[08:42] <WhiteRabbit> environ, went to bestbuy & purchased a nvidia card ;)~
[08:42] <Absenth> Seveas: so the items moved to Deferred, aren't going to make it into Breezy?
[08:43] <Seveas> Absenth, correct
[08:43] <environ> good choice... but live isnt that easy on a laptop system ^^
[08:43] <Absenth> it's too bad Xen got bumped.  oh well, maybe next time.  :)
[08:43] <WhiteRabbit> environ, talk about a pickle
[08:43] <BollocksMacenzie> I know that you have to install XP after 98 for XP to find it but was wondering which partition would be better for 98?
[08:43] <environ> why does it say file not found? the file is on my hard drive...
[08:44] <WhiteRabbit> environ, Well if you have the money & time we can find a way to trade out the ati for a nvidia lol
[08:44] <environ> gg
[08:45] <afaik> hi... is there a way I can replace all occurance of 'foo' in every file in a dir with 'bar'?
[08:45] <afaik> recursively?
[08:45] <Hoxzer^> :)
[08:46] <Seveas> afaik, find . -exec sed -e 's/foo/bar/' -i \{\} \;
[08:46] <Seveas> that does it for the current dir
[08:49] <aimaz> learn awk too
[08:49] <Absenth> the mud I used to code on had "sar" tools
[08:49] <aimaz> sed+awk = winner
[08:49] <Seveas> awk is awksome
[08:49] <aimaz> haha
[08:49] <Absenth> I actually have the sed awk book from O'Relliy at home.
[08:49] <bedi> is breezy's X broken ?
[08:49] <Seveas> eh, awesome
[08:49] <aimaz> Absenth, that's a great book
[08:50] <bedi> it was broken some months ago O_o
[08:50] <Absenth> aimaz: I started with my "Using csh & tcsh" book.  haven't gotten to sed/awk yet
[08:50] <DVSoftware> bedi: nope
[08:50] <Absenth> bedi: I did an upgrade to breezy over the weekened, and it appears to work.  at least on my hardware.  This is however subject to change hour by hour I'm told.
[08:50] <DVSoftware> [ OS: ]  testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic | XOrg: X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-56 20050901064618 root@yellow.warthogs.hbd.com)  | KVirc: 3.2.0.99 | Desktop KDE
[08:50] <Absenth> I'm currently upgrading my VMWare virtual machine to breezy as I type this.
[08:51] <bedi> hum
[08:51] <wips> I cant receive files in MSN, is there a firewall or something like that I have to turn off?
[08:51] <WhiteRabbit> now you to will know first hand why they call it Badger ;D
[08:52] <shawarma> Absenth: I have a rule when doing that: I put on "Welcome to the jungle" with Guns'n'Roses. Very fitting for that kind of situation. :-)
[08:52] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, you just need to edit iptables
[08:52] <bedi> my 64bit cd is comming from chipit
[08:52] <Absenth> shawarma: for upgrading from Stable, to unstable?
[08:52] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, oh ^^
[08:52] <shawarma> Absenth: Yup.
[08:52] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, where can I find that?
[08:53] <Absenth> shawarma: I cloned my hoary install, and am upgrading the clone.
[08:53] <shawarma> Absenth: I even put it on repeat. It gets quite annoying if your internet connection is limited and you have to fetch 600 MB of new packages.
[08:53] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, you need to open ports 6891-6900 TCP to allow msn tranfers
[08:53] <neri_> i have that line in fstab and i can unlock the files
[08:53] <neri_> /dev/hda1       /media/discontfs ntfs   rw,auto,exec,umask=0777,fmask=111,dmask$
[08:53] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, that'll give you a max of 10 concurrent transfers at one time max
[08:53] <shawarma> Absenth: Oh, ok. I just did the upgrade on my regular system. It keeps me on my toes.
[08:54] <Absenth> shawarma: I have 18gb set aside for linux on this system,  Still debating which distro I'm going to install
[08:54] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, ok, but where can I do this?
[08:54] <Absenth> leaning towards Gentoo 2005.1 but I'm not convinced yet.
[08:54] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, Hrm You should try firestarter until you get used to iptables or you can really get your hands dirty
[08:54] <bur[n] er> leaning to gentoo?  bleh
[08:55] <shawarma> Absenth: In my experience, Ubuntu sells itself. When you see everything just work, you're sold. I was.
[08:55] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, ...where's firestarter? :P
[08:56] <Absenth> shawarma: I've been using Ubuntu since a bit before Hoary moved to stable.
[08:57] <Absenth> shawarma: first distro to pull me away from the RedHat / ForsakenCore way of doing things.
[08:57] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, http://www.fs-security.com/screenshots.php  --    apt-get install firestarter
[08:57] <da_bon_bon> hi all.. whats dns relay ? and what happens if i disable it from my router config ?
[08:57] <shawarma> Absenth: It was the first distro to pull me away from Debian. I never thought I'd abandon Debian, though I've never looked back. :-D
[08:58] <Absenth> shawarma: most the local LUG are debian folks.
[08:59] <Absenth> although 4 or 5 of them work for Progeny Linux systems.
[08:59] <Absenth> they all run Progeny
 shawarma: first distro to pull me away from the RedHat / ForsakenCore way of doing things.
[09:00] <Seveas> The correct name is Fedora Coredump
[09:00] <xulin> hi !
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[09:00] <WhiteRabbit> Absenth, of course they would just as Ian does
[09:00] <xulin> is there any locate front end ?
[09:00] <endy_x> xulin, xterm :P
[09:01] <nalioth_zZz> Seveas: no mention of "redhat hell?
[09:01] <nalioth_zZz> tsk tsk
[09:01] <xulin> caus it's fun to have a updatedb evryday .. better to user it easaly by a newbies :s
[09:01] <Absenth> Seveas: I figure being forsaken, probibly leads to core dumps :)
[09:01] <Seveas> :))
[09:01] <Absenth> and it's Dead Rat around these parts.
[09:01] <Seveas> Crap Hat is also heard a lot
[09:01] <endy_x> xulin, you can add it to cron
[09:02] <xulin> endy_x, add a front end to locate in a cron o_O ?
[09:02] <DVSoftware> xulin: no
[09:02] <DVSoftware> updatedb in cron
[09:02] <endy_x> xulin, sorry i thought you mean you don't like the way you have to updatedb often
[09:02] <endy_x> ignore me
[09:03] <xulin> well .. just say that cauz newbies say me .. "why my computer search things on the hard disk at the first boot" ..
[09:04] <nalioth_zZz> xulin: endy_x updatedb is in the system cron already
[09:04] <xulin> of course a say updatedb and locate .. and .. the ? how use it with an interface better tham xterm :s ..
[09:04] <xulin> nalioth i know ^ ..
[09:05] <Seveas> xulin, breezy will introduce beagle
[09:05] <Seveas> that will make me ditch slocate :)
[09:05] <nalioth> good dog
[09:05] <Absenth> ok, this is a good quote.
[09:05] <Absenth> RedHat: proving, no matter how cool the product, a company founded by a sales-guy will always turn into a smoldering stinking trash pile of suck
[09:06] <Hakis> WhiteRabbit, It cant find the package
[09:07] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, Your machine has the curse of the shadow then!
[09:07] <Hakis> :(
[09:08] <WhiteRabbit> Hakis, you need to access the multiverse I feel
[09:08] <nalioth> !tell hakis about sources
[09:08] <No1Viking> How would I do to get this box to act like a gateway,to have two NIC? One NIC goes to the Internet and the other goes to the local LAN?
[09:08] <nalioth> No1Viking: iptables
[09:09] <nalioth> No1Viking: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[09:09] <No1Viking> OK?
[09:09] <Hakis> huh
[09:10] <No1Viking> Thanks nalioth, gonna read some now!  :)
[09:10] <Hakis> hmm :(
[09:10] <DVSoftware> Hakis:
[09:10] <DVSoftware> !repositories
[09:10] <ubotu> [repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:10] <Hakis> DVSoftware, ?
[09:11] <Hakis> DVSoftware, : oh
[09:11] <Napasik> Anyone have a script or program where u see the CPU temp, load, memory load etc
[09:12] <DVSoftware> Napasik: lmsensors
[09:12] <Napasik> thank
[09:12] <Napasik> s
[09:12] <DVSoftware> mbmon is good, too
[09:15] <shinu> why doesnt xmms want to play an audio cd for me?
[09:15] <shinu> i told it to play /cdrom and there is no sound
[09:15] <shinu> though it can see the tracks
[09:16] <Alex_BO> Hello!I've a problem with Gnome CD-DVD Burner.I have some tarballs to burn into a DVD-RW: I move them to CD-DVD Burner window, i press burn DVD and it says "The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image".Why?How can I burn?
[09:16] <darkheart> shinu Did you mount it? If so, don't.
[09:16] <WhiteRabbit> shinu, you need a audio cable from your snd card to the drive
[09:16] <Seveas> shinu: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[09:16] <shinu> see
[09:16] <shinu> WhiteRabbit: im on laptop
[09:16] <shinu> ok
[09:16] <WhiteRabbit> change the players audio codexs
[09:16] <shinu> ill have a look right away
[09:17] <shawarma> Oh, by the way.. I have a pcmcia NIC that uses ndiswrappers.. How do I make sure it is autoconfigured when plugged it?
[09:17] <shawarma> plugged in, i mean.
[09:18] <SPERMITE> does any one one a link to get a ut2003 installer i cant find one anywhere
[09:18] <WhiteRabbit> SPERMITE, the demo?
[09:18] <OculusAquilae> SPERMITE: isn't it on the cd?
[09:18] <WhiteRabbit> SPERMITE, or you own the Retail version if so the linux installer is on the CD
[09:19] <OculusAquilae> SPERMITE: or do you mean something like this: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=70
[09:20] <SPERMITE> OculusAquilae yess  = )
[09:20] <Napasik> Whats the command for installing deb files, sobu kptg-something ;o
[09:20] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with Gnome CD-DVD Burner.I have some tarballs to burn into a DVD-RW: I move them to CD-DVD Burner window, i press burn DVD and it says "The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image".Why?How can I burn?
[09:20] <bur[n] er> Napasik: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[09:20] <Napasik> ty :D
[09:21] <nxvl> hi
[09:21] <nxvl> did someone has upgrade hoary to brezy yet?
[09:21] <nxvl> it is safe to do it?
[09:21] <nalioth> Alex_BO: have you tried using k3b?
[09:21] <BollocksMacenzie> One thing I wanted to ask which I forgot to ask earlier... Just incase anyone knows. Will Windows 98SE run alright with 1024MB of RAM installed, because it's supposed to not like it when installing.
[09:21] <crimsun> nxvl: it's safe
[09:21] <nxvl> or my system may crash?
[09:22] <bur[n] er> Alex_BO: or graveman or gnomebaker?
[09:22] <nxvl> ok thnx
[09:22] <nxvl> there is some list with the breezy packages?
[09:22] <crimsun> packages.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <shawarma> How do I make sure a PCMCIA card is configured when I plug it in?
[09:23] <shinu> i changed my audio output plug in to esound in xmms but i still cant hear anything...
[09:23] <Alex_BO> bur[n] er, nalioth: with k3b it makes an error: input/output error after burning (very strange...). graveman or gnomebaker?i haven't ever heard.can i download the packages?
[09:23] <crimsun> shinu: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:23] <[A] ndy80> hi
[09:24] <Snark> salut
[09:24] <[A] ndy80> one strange thing: I left my notebook for 1-2 hours without using it... is it possible that ubuntu froze it or suspended automatically?
[09:24] <bur[n] er> Alex_BO: definately download them... they're gtk based apps for cd burning
[09:24] <bur[n] er> cd/dvd that is
[09:24] <shinu> crimsun: and then?
[09:24] <ian> [A] ndy80: plugged in?
[09:25] <[A] ndy80> the problem is that I found black screen... tried to resume but no success :( I restarted again and I got  alor of errors
[09:25] <nalioth> Alex_BO: are the disks k3b makes good?
[09:25] <[A] ndy80> I had to power off again and to boot again
[09:25] <funkyHat> is there a program i can use to rip a CD to mp3 files?
[09:25] <ian> [A] ndy80: what errors
[09:25] <crimsun> shinu: I can't help you if you don't tell me the output
[09:25] <[A] ndy80> yes it's plugged to power
[09:25] <shawarma> funkyHat: soundjuicer, abcde, grip
[09:25] <funkyHat> sound juicer only seems to want to use ogg or flac
[09:25] <[A] ndy80> could not read
[09:25] <shawarma> funkyHat: Oh. abcde then
[09:25] <[A] ndy80> they scrolled too fast
[09:25] <bur[n] er> funkyHat: i use grip :)
[09:25] <shinu> crimsun: sorry ^^'
[09:25] <shinu> 0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[09:25] <shinu>                      Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with unknown codec at 0xe0100c00, irq 11
[09:26] <bur[n] er> soundjuicer kinda blows at this point
[09:26] <crimsun> shinu: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:26] <shinu> ok
[09:27] <Kvark> how do you make a shell script figure out what the current directory is?
[09:27] <crimsun> the current dir is `pwd`
[09:27] <ian> Kvark: pwd ?
[09:27] <nalioth> Kvark: put ./ in front of what you want to run
[09:27] <jjazz> ian:  Path to Working Directory = pwd
[09:27] <Kvark> cool, thanks
[09:28] <funkyHat> shawarma, does abcde have a GUI?
[09:28] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, i want to install abiword, however when i open synaptic up there are 7 packages listed - how do i know which ones i need? i am running it on a low spec system, so don't want more than i will need.  (running kfce not gnome)
[09:28] <bur[n] er> pwd == print working directory I thought?
[09:28] <Doonz> hey can anyone recomend a program for keeping 2 folders one on a linux box the other on a win 2k3 server box synced?
[09:29] <Kvark> i thought pwd = password
[09:29] <bur[n] er> Doonz: rsync?
[09:29] <lolzk> New problem, I went into system -> users and groups and set a root password... but when I 'su' into root, it feeds me back Authentication Failure... :'(
[09:29] <bur[n] er> Doonz: or use syncback on the windows box
[09:29] <Kvark> acronyms and abbrevations are confusing
[09:29] <ian> Lunar_Lamp: I think just 'abiword' and 'abiword-common'
[09:30] <poningru> anything in linux that can interface with itunes protocol?
[09:30] <ian> poningru: which one?
[09:30] <puff> Hm...
[09:30] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks a lot ian
[09:30] <t3abag> hey guys ive got a small problem
[09:30] <poningru> ian: something that allows me to play the music in other peoples computers
[09:30] <t3abag> can someone help me out?
[09:30] <ian> poningru: rhythmbox can now share music with itunes
[09:30] <poningru> it can?
[09:30] <puff> When I plug in my usb drive, a GUI folder pops up.  How do I find the corresponding path from the shell?
[09:30] <Snark> does the following error message tell something to anyone: (gnumeric:10172): GnomePrint-WARNING **: Problem while creating filter from 'GnomePrintFilterFrgba': filter 'GnomePrintFilterFrgba' is unknown
[09:30] <Snark> ?
[09:31] <poningru> do I have to compile it myself?
[09:31] <CarlFK> breezy install, resize ntfs part "reading all physical volumes.  this may take a while"  - anyone know if 5min is more than "a while"?
[09:31] <ian> poningru: the CVS version, I think
[09:31] <Sly-College> [uff /media/*
[09:31] <nalioth> poningru: that question is leading to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <shinu> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2021
[09:31] <puff> Sly-College: thanks.
[09:31] <Rockett18> puff> it should be /media/whatever flash drive is called
[09:31] <matthew_w> Anyone know why Enemy Territory gives me a black screen when I start it
[09:31] <Sly-College> your usb stick should be seen under there :)
[09:31] <t3abag> is anyone willing to help me?
[09:31] <matthew_w> and then I have to restart x?
[09:31] <NoUse> t3abag we might be able to help if you'd ask your quesiton
[09:31] <nalioth> poningru: itunes music (downloaded) is DRMd
[09:31] <poningru> nalioth: dont worry I know how to download from cvs/ compile stuff
[09:31] <poningru> nalioth: I know I dont download DRMd music
[09:31] <Napasik> Hmm, I tried to install mbmon, but I get a error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. Please check that your locale settings are supported and installed on your system. Any ideas ?
[09:32] <reiki_work> I haven't really looked into this too much... but can RhythmBox rip CDs to mp3?
[09:32] <nalioth> poningru: ah, then drive on with the music player of your choice
[09:32] <t3abag> NoUse: i put my dns in /etc/resolv.conf but it changes back after 10 minutes
[09:32] <dalamar> you cam use more than itunes downloaded music in the program so its far from offtopic
[09:32] <Seveas> reiki_work, try soundjuicer for that
[09:32] <Jefis> how to change gnome(gkt) icons sets without having gnome? that apps like xchat running on kde look more "sexy" :-)
[09:32] <NoUse> t3abag thats because resolv.conf is getting set by your DHCP server
[09:32] <reiki_work> Seveas: ok thanks... pity I wasted money buying songs from iTunes... they are NOT easy to convert
[09:32] <t3abag> NoUse: how can i fix this? i remember there was a script i had to comment out
[09:33] <lolzk> ok, I double checked this password loads when I changed it in system -> Users and groups, but still, doing su and using the same password fails. Is there a default root pass I can try, becuase I really need to get into root :\
[09:33] <matthew_w> Any ideas?
[09:33] <nalioth> dalamar: i was referrin to DRMd music being o/t
[09:33] <poningru> thanks ian
[09:33] <funkyHat> Jefis, install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[09:33] <NoUse> t3abag do you have control over the DHCP server?
[09:33] <dalamar> i know
[09:33] <puff> Seveas: Where does soundjuicer stick ripped files?
[09:33] <t3abag> NoUse: yea
[09:33] <ian> poningru: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/uraeus/2005/09/06/0
[09:33] <Jefis> funkyHat, i have gtk-qt-engine
[09:33] <Alex_BO> bur[n] er, it seems work.if it works, i will love you
[09:33] <NoUse> t3abag add the DNS you want to the DHCP schema
[09:33] <ian> poningru: only two days ago!
[09:33] <Jefis> but i want to change icons!, style i have allready changed
[09:33] <Alex_BO> nalioth,yes: they are pretty good
[09:33] <Kvark> t3abag: how is anyone supposed to know that before you ask your question?
[09:34] <Kvark> uups, ignore me
[09:34] <Quinthius> reiki_work: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and the section on AAC / iTunes?
[09:34] <t3abag> NoUse: how do i do that?
[09:34] <Napasik> Anyone have a idea what to do with my problem ?
[09:34] <poningru> ian:awesome
[09:34] <floe> hi all
[09:34] <poningru> Napasik: whats wrong?
[09:34] <t3abag> Kvark: sorry i was being polite and seeing if you guys wanted to help a nix noob like me
[09:34] <Napasik> Hmm, I tried to install mbmon, but I get a error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. Please check that your locale settings are supported and installed on your system. Any ideas ?
[09:34] <NoUse> t3abag I don't know what kind of server you have
[09:35] <puff> Napasik: Sounds like an internationalization/localization issue.
[09:35] <reiki_work> Quinthius: nope... hadn't seen that... looking now
[09:35] <t3abag> hmm
[09:35] <floe> I did an apt-get dist-upgrade (to breezy) now the at sign isn't working anymore... any ideas?
[09:35] <djm62> puff: wherever you specify in Edit->Preferences, in directories by artist/album/
[09:35] <Napasik> hm, any solution to it ?
[09:35] <puff> Napasik: The error should have listed the locale settings it was trying to set.
[09:36] <poningru> Napasik: what locale are you?
[09:36] <poningru> no?
[09:36] <djm62> I think the default is $HOME, but I quickly changed it to "My Music" for the sake of neatness
[09:36] <puff> E.g. language.
[09:36] <Napasik> poningru, no idea  = )
[09:36] <poningru> Napasik: what language is your computer on right now?
[09:36] <Napasik> Norwegian
[09:36] <puff> Napasik: Hm, googling on "Setting locale failed" turned up one suggestion to dpkg-reconfigure locale
[09:37] <poningru> Napasik: try what puff says the problem could be that it doesnt support norwegian
[09:37] <puff> man locale
[09:37] <Napasik> Okey
[09:38] <Alex_BO> bur[n] er, noooo!it doesn't work
[09:38] <puff> Napasik: "locale -a" shows you the list of locales available  on your system.
[09:39] <Pyf> audacity doesn't recognise my audio is there any plugins for it?
[09:39] <Napasik> got a list here
[09:39] <puff> Napasik: Also, generally the google hits I'm getting seem to indicate that it's a warning, and that everything should work (though if you have specific locale issues, e.g. you want stuff to show up in italian language/encoding or something, you may still be unhappy)
[09:39] <Pyf> gstreamer plugins usually help
[09:39] <puff> Napasik: Are you using (or trying to set up) a system for non-US-english users?
[09:40] <Napasik> Well
[09:40] <Napasik> I just wanted to install mbmon for fun
[09:40] <crimsun> shinu: two things: you need to mute IEC958 and Headphone
[09:41] <reiki_work> I need some Supertramp songs.... and I think those are among the CDs my kids lost when tehy were moving stuff
[09:41] <crimsun> shinu: some codecs require you to mute External Amplifier, too
[09:41] <shinu> crimsun: whats iec958?
[09:41] <reiki_work> wrong channel... I hate when that happens
[09:41] <crimsun> shinu: the optical output
[09:41] <shinu> oh
[09:41] <shinu> ok
[09:42] <shinu> crimsun: wait a sec, let me try
[09:42] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible?
[09:42] <puff> Napasik: Okay, in that case I strongly suspect you can just ignore that warning - unless it somehow prevented the install from completing?
[09:42] <puff> Napasik: Alternatively, I guess you could go over and ask on #perl, or perhaps email the mbmon people.
[09:42] <Napasik> It is, cant continue
[09:42] <Napasik> Yeah
[09:43] <puff> Napasik: Basically, one of three things is the issue.
[09:43] <shinu> crimsun: i dont know why but this iec thing keeps jumping back up
[09:43] <puff> a) it's trying to set a locale you don't have support installed for.
[09:43] <crimsun> shinu: all you need to do is mute it
[09:43] <puff> Well, to rephrase, either a) the app (a perl problem) b) the package (a packager problem) or c) your system's support for what the package is asking for (your problem, an ubuntu problem)
[09:44] <bris> salut all
[09:44] <Napasik> Thanks for the help
[09:44] <jared> having problems accessing ntfs mounts.
[09:44] <shinu> crimsun: from command line?
[09:44] <puff> Napasik: If it's C, one possibility is that you need to install the right locale support.
[09:44] <shinu> crimsun: im on xfce and i have this volume control, do i use that?
[09:44] <Napasik> How ? :S
[09:44] <Napasik> or
[09:44] <Seveas> Napasik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:44] <Napasik> How do i figure out what i need to install ?
[09:44] <crimsun> shinu: using any mixer. For instance, amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Headphone' off && amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off
[09:44] <shinu> oh
[09:45] <puff> Napasik: What Seveas said...
[09:45] <Pyf> what programs are good for audio editing....?
[09:45] <Ganoosh> hey all
[09:46] <crimsun> Pyf: editing? audacity's great
[09:46] <crimsun> Pyf: or if you like chains, try ecasound
[09:46] <puff> crimsun: chains?
[09:46] <meeweee> Hi, ive got a question. Ive just installed ubuntu and it worked well until now. When i boot i got a error message telling me that shpchp and pciehp couldnt be found or something. I tought i could boot up with knopix and modify /etc/modules but i cant find thoes names in there.. Anyone that has a good ideea how to solve this?
[09:46] <crimsun> puff: it's clearer if you read the ecasound page
[09:47] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible?
[09:47] <Pyf> crimsun, cant get audacity to work, so will try ecasound
[09:47] <crimsun> meeweee: those are for cpu hotplugging and pci express, respectively. Errors with those modules if you lack that hardware can be disregarded.
[09:47] <Napasik> Installation works now, thanks alot!
[09:47] <jared> how do i enable read/write permissions for a ntfs mount.
[09:47] <shinu> crimsun: anything else i need to do?
[09:47] <crimsun> shinu: test sound, of course
[09:48] <puff> crimsun: I don't see anything about chains on http://eca.cx/
[09:48] <meeweee> crimsun, can i disable thoes_
[09:48] <meeweee> ?
[09:48] <crimsun> puff: ecasound works via "chaining"
[09:48] <meeweee> crimsun, i think thats why i cant boot ubuntu.
[09:48] <nalioth> jared: writing to ntfs is a good first step to a windows-free existence
[09:48] <shinu> crimsun: i tried to play this cd again but it doesnt seem to work...
[09:48] <crimsun> puff: it's probably better to just read the documentation
[09:48] <nalioth> !tell jared about ntfs
[09:49] <crimsun> meeweee: do you have pci express hardware in your computer?
[09:49] <Ganoosh> when does the install ask what partition to install on, it gives me all these options but it doesn't have like a proceed, i guess after i finish all the options, it will ask?
[09:49] <crimsun> shinu: test using a wav file with aplay
[09:49] <jared> i know what it is. i need to give permissions to that mount in order to view the contents, it mounts perfectly fine. how can i change the ntfs permissions?
[09:49] <meeweee> crimsun, i dont think so... ive got  just a regular sound card on a PCI slot... nothing more.
[09:49] <nalioth> jared: ubotu loves you, read its msg
[09:49] <crimsun> meeweee: then you can ignore those two modules
[09:49] <xceses> how do you launch gnome from the text prompt
[09:49] <meeweee> crimsun, how?
[09:49] <crimsun> meeweee: just close your eyes
[09:49] <shinu> crimsun: i dont have a wave file ^^' can it be mp3?
[09:50] <shinu> i guess not...
[09:50] <meeweee> crimsun, ive looked in /etc/modules :(
[09:50] <meeweee> they arent there.
[09:50] <crimsun> shinu: of course you have wav files, look in /usr/share/sounds
[09:50] <shinu> oh ok
[09:50] <shinu> didnt know about that
[09:50] <crimsun> meeweee: what does /etc/modules have to do with this?
[09:50] <meeweee> crimsun, sorry.. i dont know.. how do i disable they then?
[09:50] <Determinist> !java
[09:50] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:50] <crimsun> meeweee: you don't need to disable anything. Just ignore that message.
[09:51] <meeweee> crimsun, the thing is it halts there... nothing happens after that.
[09:51] <No1Viking> Anyone know of where to find instructions howto install and setup a DHCP server?
[09:51] <crimsun> meeweee: boot with noapic or pci=noacpi
[09:51] <danl> omg... how many options are there when reconfiguring the kernel?
[09:51] <puff> crimsun: Ah, so "if you like chains" is simply using a colloquialism from the audio world.
[09:52] <nalioth> No1Viking: www.tldp.org would be one of my first stops (after asking uncle google)
[09:52] <nalioth> danl: about a bazillion
[09:52] <crimsun> puff: not really, it's more of an idea
[09:52] <crimsun> puff: similar to thinking of activation records as chains
[09:52] <jared> haha
[09:52] <jared> that program sucks
[09:52] <meeweee> crimsun, "noapic" or "pci=noacpi"... is that correct?
[09:52] <[A] ndy80> I discovered what the problem was with the freeze!
[09:52] <lakcaj> xceses, echo "exec gnome-session" > .xinitrc
[09:52] <lakcaj> xceses, startx
[09:52] <crimsun> meeweee: correct
[09:52] <blastma> hi
[09:52] <jared> ubotu is a retard.
[09:52] <ubotu> jared: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:52] <meeweee> thanks, i try
[09:53] <[A] ndy80> in few words: when screensaver switchoff my display, there's no way to switch on again :(
[09:53] <holy_cow> *blink*
[09:53] <holy_cow> hula-manager is in the repositories?
[09:53] <jared> it's not mounting the whole partition, just the first 2Gb.
[09:53] <holy_cow> *schwing*
[09:53] <holy_cow> v v nice :)
[09:53] <puff> crimsun: Looks equivalent to software app pipelining, aka the "chain of command" pattern.
[09:53] <jared> ev/hdg              2.0G  1.3G  592M  70% /hdg
[09:53] <jared> /dev/hdb1              15G   12G  3.8G  76% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb1)
[09:53] <jared> /dev/hdb2             5.1G  2.6G  2.5G  51% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb2)
[09:53] <jared> /dev/hdb3              92G   82G   11G  90% /media/2 GB Disk (hdb3)
[09:53] <jared> /dev/hdg1             112G   84G   29G  75% /media/0 GB Disk (hdg1)
[09:53] <bytefoo> Colony 4 was released today?
[09:53] <crimsun> bytefoo: earlier this week
[09:53] <jared> sizes aren't right.
[09:53] <bytefoo> is it stable enough to upgrade to from hoary?
[09:54] <bytefoo> i'd like to try gnome 2.12 :X
[09:54] <crimsun> bytefoo: download the colony 4 live cd and have at it, then
[09:54] <shinu> crimsun: playing .wav using aplay works
[09:54] <shinu> crimsun: but when i try with xmms it dumps an error
[09:54] <crimsun> shinu: so sound works just fine
[09:54] <bytefoo> alternatively i could just change my sources correct?
[09:54] <crimsun> shinu: pgrep esd
[09:54] <crimsun> bytefoo: then update && dist-upgrade, sure.
[09:54] <shinu> crimsun: nothing
[09:55] <bytefoo> alrighty
[09:55] <unvs> so is it "safe" to upgrade now?
[09:55] <unvs> or is something broken?
[09:55] <crimsun> shinu: if esd isn't running and XMMS is configured to use esound, that should be a clue
[09:55] <shinu> alright
[09:55] <crimsun> shinu: so you either need to invoke esd, or you need to switch XMMS's output to ALSA or OSS
[09:56] <shinu> crimsun: i killed esd last time cause i couldnt use mplayer
[09:56] <crimsun> shinu: mplayer -ao esd foo
[09:56] <humulus> is there any package with more fonts for gimp?
[09:56] <humulus> shinu: or edit /etc/mplayer.conf
[09:57] <nalioth> humulus: are the gimp fonts any different from system fonts?
[09:58] <humulus> i have no idea about font :?
[09:58] <shinu> crimsun: how do i invoke esd?
[09:58] <Bateau_> ok, i just installed wine... do i need to do anything ells now? befor i can go ahead and install feks steam or Ventrillo or something ells :P
[09:58] <crimsun> shinu: System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[09:58] <shinu> uh
[09:58] <nalioth> humulus: linux uses ttf for its fonts.  any fonts you find, drop em in ~/.fonts
[09:58] <shinu> crimsun: im n xfce... ill have a look
[09:59] <crimsun> shinu: Xfce does not invoke esd for you automatically. You need to switch XMMS's output to ALSA or OSS.
[09:59] <shinu> crimsun: ill check again but i think it didnt work with alsa or oss
[09:59] <crimsun> at least we didn't configure Xfce to invoke all the GNOME infrastructure when we packaged it.
[10:01] <InitMass> how do i show desktop icons in gnome?
[10:01] <shinu> crimsun: oss and alsa dont seem to work
[10:02] <crimsun> shinu: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[10:03] <shinu> crimsun: xfce-panel and xfce-msc-manager
[10:04] <efemer> salut
[10:04] <efemer> est ce qu'il y a un editeur de menu sous gnome svp ?
[10:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi
[10:04] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, i'm using kfce, and i want to use a usb pen-drive with it, to save work to etc.  how do i do this.  I am completely new to linux, but my understanding was that gnome automounted.  Using kfce i think i may need to manually mount it - how would i do this - and would i need to do any setup first?
[10:04] <efemer> j'arrive pas a ya mettre la main dessus
[10:04] <crimsun> shinu: ok, those are fine.
[10:05] <crimsun> shinu: if aplay works, ALSA should work with XMMS
[10:05] <danl> omg... i went through all the kernel options and it won't compule... God lovesme
[10:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> can someone look up a seeting  in users and computers and tell me what the default is supposed to be?
[10:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> gnome
[10:06] <Seveas> !fr
[10:06] <ubotu> methinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:06] <Seveas> ah blah, he left...
[10:06] <shinu> xD
[10:06] <nalioth> Seveas: i /noticed him with that info
[10:06] <Seveas> grmbl, you think that is funny?
[10:06] <Seveas>  /kick shinu
[10:06] <Seveas> :p
[10:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> can someone look up a seeting  in users and computers and tell me what the default is supposed to be? in gnome....anybody?
[10:07] <danl> sonny i can
[10:07] <Seveas> Sonny_Wertzik, which setting?
[10:07] <shinu> xD
[10:07] <Determinist> erm, the bot is bugged
[10:07] <Seveas> ubotu, you broken
[10:07] <ubotu> Eep! *crash*
[10:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> thanx its users & computers>advanced>pick root tell me what u have 4 default
[10:08] <shinu> crimsun: i can play .wav with xmms via alsa but cd doesnt work
[10:08] <shinu> crimsun: i checked just in case if my cd was laright and it plays well on my discman
[10:08] <danl> im getting a no rule to make target 'init/main.o' error when trying to make the kernel
[10:08] <DocTomoe> I have a problem setting up a LAMP System with Breezy (might be PHP5 related...) ... database connection works fine when calling a script frpom the system prompt, but refuses to work when the very same script is loaded with Apache. Any Idea where I can search for the problem?
[10:08] <Seveas> Sonny_Wertzik, ehat do you mean with 'users and computers'?
[10:08] <crimsun> shinu: you have to configure XMMS's cd plugin to use digital audio extraction
[10:08] <Determinist> Seveas: cant find sun-j2re1.5 on the default repos... any idea how to get jre installed?
[10:09] <crimsun> shinu: otherwise, try the CD player that comes with GNOME
[10:09] <Seveas> DocTomoe, it will help if you give the error
[10:09] <Seveas> Determinist, it's in hoary-extras
[10:09] <shinu> ok
[10:09] <shinu> that was it
[10:09] <Determinist> Seveas: kk
[10:09] <shinu> crimsun: youre great! :)
[10:09] <shinu> crimsun: it was set to analog by default...
[10:09] <DocTomoe> Seveas Its like "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in SCRIPT.php"
[10:09] <Lunar_Lamp> to enable me to use a usb-drive, i believe i have to edit /etc/fstab - however - i have no idea how to do this.  would someone be so kind as to point me in the correct direction please?
[10:09] <Seveas> !tell danl about kernelcompile
[10:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> System>administration>users and groups ...sorry
[10:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh im used to win xp hehehe
[10:10] <Seveas> DocTomoe, install php5-mysql (or php4-mysql if you use php4) and restart apache2
[10:10] <shinu> crimsun: may i ask what uses analog?
[10:10] <DocTomoe> Seveas: That package is installed, but I prefer apache, not apache2 ... is there a way to get this work in apache1.3.something?
[10:10] <crimsun> shinu: rephrase?
[10:10] <luite> has anyone here succeeded in getting the ati proprietary driver working in breezy? I'm getting a DRI version warning when using the 6.8.x driver, and unresolved symbols when using the 6.9.x driver
[10:10] <robotgeek> Lunar_Lamp: a usb drive should automount /media/<label of usb drive>
[10:11] <Seveas> Sonny_Wertzik, I have no 'advanced' button, are you using breezy perhaps?
[10:11] <danl> afk
[10:11] <Lunar_Lamp> robotgeek - i am not using Gnome, i am using kfce - should it stil automount?
[10:11] <robotgeek> Lunar_Lamp: no
[10:11] <shinu> crimsun: the play mode in xmms you told me to set, there is digital audio extraction (you told me to set to) and analog
[10:11] <Lunar_Lamp> robotgeek - didn't think so! :-)
[10:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> pick root then properties then advanced tab
[10:11] <robotgeek> Lunar_Lamp: though you might want to try out 'pmount'
[10:11] <Seveas> DocTomoe, no idea actually
[10:11] <Seveas> Sonny_Wertzik, ahh ok
[10:11] <crimsun> shinu: analog is the "historic" method; it relies on a cable connection the audio-out from the cd device to the sound card
[10:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehe thanx
[10:12] <shinu> oh
[10:12] <shinu> i see
[10:12] <shinu> ok thanks a lot crimsun ^^
[10:12] <DocTomoe> Seveas ... that's too bad. Thanks :)
[10:12] <Seveas> main group root, shell /bin/bash, home /root
[10:12] <Determinist> ohh, yay, in the current download rate from mirrormax (hoary-extras) i'll have java installed in 2 days and a bit :)
[10:12] <Seveas> Determinist, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:13] <NightBird> first I must fix a friends laptop..
[10:13] <Seveas> msg me a user/pass
[10:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok thanx that helped
[10:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> i appreciate it!
[10:13] <Lunar_Lamp> robotgeek: syntax is pmount device [label]  it says in the manual - but i am so new to linux - that it still doesn't make too much sense to me.  firstly, what options do i need, secondly, what do i enter as "device"?
[10:13] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: what do you try to do?
[10:13] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: (I'm the pmount author)
[10:13] <Lunar_Lamp> oooo!
[10:14] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - i just want to use my usb-stick with the laptop running ubuntu
[10:14] <CookedGryphon> Has anyone got any experience with winmodems? i installed slmodem on my laptop and it worked twice but no its stopped and i don't know y
[10:14] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: and it's not mounted automatically
[10:14] <robotgeek> pitti: cool stuff there!
[10:14] <pitti> ?
[10:14] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - i don't believe so - i am using kfce not gnome
[10:14] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: it's supposed to "just work"
[10:14] <pitti> ah, ok
[10:14] <codenut> Is there anyone here good at modems with Ubuntu?
[10:14] <pitti> that explains it :-)
[10:14] <Colloid> anyone having problems with sound+flash in firefox? well i jsut updated the wiki describing how to fix that! (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b)
[10:14] <danl> ok i've a fairly serious error seeing that i have a project due tomorrow, any time i click a pdf to save it or open it in firefox i get a parse syntax error
[10:14] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: for a start, just try "pmount /dev/sda1"
[10:15] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - would i expect any kind of "success" message if i am succesful
[10:15] <codenut> Does Ubuntu only detect hardware well when it is being installed?
[10:15] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: no, it follows the Unix philosophy - no news is good news
[10:15] <Lunar_Lamp> i just typed it in - it seemed to think for a while - but the laptop is so slow it thinks after doing most things ;-)
[10:16] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: check if you have a /media/sda1 with the USB stick's content
[10:16] <CarlFK> danl - what is the URL of a pdf you are clicking on?
[10:16] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - ah, ok - so no message means it should have worked!
[10:16] <danl> http://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.html any of those four
[10:16] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: yes, it complains if it doesn't work
[10:16] <danl> they work on my roommates ubuntu install
[10:16] <CarlFK> danl - what is the URL of -> a pdf <- you are clicking on?
[10:16] <sn0n> hey guys.. this is a silly question.. but its happened 3 times now..  sometimes when i get back from being away... my screen looks distorted (think about a montior doin a resolution not supported, but  you can still see things kinda).. and just changing the resolution fixes it.. any ideas?  its quite random
[10:17] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - it worked - thanks a bunch!
[10:17] <danl> http://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.1.pdf
[10:17] <Determinist> Seveas: you managed to make freenx work yet mate?
[10:17] <danl> i googled pdf
[10:17] <danl> i googled pdf's it did it on all them too
[10:17] <danl> xml parsing error: syntax error.
[10:18] <CarlFK> danl - know how to run commands?
[10:18] <Lunar_Lamp> is there a way to automate that in future? i know it's no big deal, but hey, if it's easy to do - and i will prob learn more about linux in the process!
[10:18] <danl> yes
[10:18] <CarlFK> wget http://sol.cs.wcu.edu/~nkoban/math250/hw1.1.pdf
[10:18] <CarlFK> that should at least get it, which seems to be the problem
[10:18] <gorbekuchulu> I am trying to build something from source. as a non-root, how can I add a directory to be searched while checking for include?
[10:18] <bluesceada> hm how could i do a cluster with ubuntu ? i just replace the kernel with my own which is patched with openmosix ?
[10:18] <bluesceada> or are there any precompiled ones or such
[10:18] <seatouch> hey can anyone tell command to install codecs to play mp3?
[10:18] <nalioth> !tell seatouch about restricted
[10:18] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: as a short explanation, "/dev/sda1" means "the first partition on the first SCSI device"
[10:19] <nalioth> seatouch: ubotu sends love
[10:19] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: after plugging in a device, the last lines of "dmesg" will hint you which device it is
[10:19] <Bateau_> hmm, i just installed Ventrillo in Wine... and it starts nice and all. it says it cant find the sound codec. any know whats wrong?
[10:19] <Seveas> Determinist, freenx works fine for me
[10:19] <seatouch> hehe
[10:19] <Colloid> anyone having problems with sound+flash in firefox? well i jsut updated the wiki describing how to fix that! (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b) SOMEONE PRAISE ME DAMNIT!
[10:19] <WhiteRabbit> freenx is the nice
[10:19] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti: dmesg? i get that by typing dmesg into a terminal i assume?
[10:20] <JairunCaloth> how can I make xchat open a link by just clicking on it?
[10:20] <Seveas> Colloid, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary contains the fix for that
[10:20] <CookedGryphon> Colloid, well done
[10:20] <Seveas> (since a long time ago)
[10:20] <Colloid> damn it.
[10:20] <Colloid> ;<
[10:20] <CarlFK> danl - did it get hw1.1.pdf?
[10:20] <danl> CarlFX, thanks
[10:20] <Seveas> but it's a good idea to add it there :)
[10:20] <danl> it got all 4 of them
[10:20] <Colloid> ty (=
[10:21] <danl> individually of course
[10:21] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: yes; it shows the last messages from the kernel
[10:21] <nalioth> Colloid: thought your nick was Colloid not DAMMIT
[10:21] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: in Ubuntu with Gnome, you don't have to mess with that, the devices are mounted automatically
[10:21] <CookedGryphon> i'm having problems with my laptop, the power management doesn't seem to b supported by ubuntu, so its relaly noisy all the t ime and can get really hot
[10:21] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: but if you only have one SCSI device at a time, sda1 will usually work
[10:22] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: ... and don't forget "pumount /dev/sda1" before you unplug :-)
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> pitti - i know - but gnome was too slow on my ancient laptop.  when i get around to putting ubuntu on my pc - then i will probably use gnome, and then it won#t be an issue
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> what would i happen if i didn't forget?
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> er, didn#t *remember*
[10:22] <Pyf> when i try and play a file in audacity it says, "Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device settings and the project sample rate"  When i check for an audio device in preferences there isnt one.  I have this problem with most programs and overcome it by setting up a gstreamer or something like that. is that possible for audacity
[10:22] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: depends on how recently  you wrote stuff on it
[10:23] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: if there are still pending changes to be written on the stick, and you suddenly rip it out, these changes are lost, and your file system can get corrupted
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> eek!
[10:23] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: if you just read from it, it's ok, thouhg
[10:23] <Seveas> s/can/will/
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks for all the help pitti!
[10:23] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: however, proper umounting is a good habit everybody should get used to
[10:23] <pitti> Lunar_Lamp: you're welcome :-)
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> i've learnt loads in the last 10mins!
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> hehe
[10:24] <Lunar_Lamp> (well, loads in comparison to my previous knowledge)
[10:24] <shinu> DVSoftware: the lmsensors you talked about earlier, do they require gdesklets?
[10:24] <Red_Bullet> please tell me the newest codecs
[10:24] <DVSoftware> shinu: lmsensors is console app
[10:24] <shinu> oh
[10:24] <Seveas> pitti, doesn't pmount mount -o sync these days?
[10:25] <shinu> DVSoftware: do i just apg-get install lmsensors?
[10:25] <DVSoftware> yes and then
[10:25] <DVSoftware> sensors-detect
[10:25] <DVSoftware> as root
[10:25] <lolindir> hello i'm totally new to ubuntu i can someone help me?
[10:25] <nalioth> Red_Bullet: what kind of codecs?
[10:25] <SiliconViper> (Using Ubuntu 5.04) I have two soundcards. It defaults to one of them, how do I set it to use the other?
[10:25] <nalioth> lolindir: ask your question
[10:25] <bluesceada> anyone ever did a cluster with ubuntu ?
[10:25] <SiliconViper> I already have the default card set in .asoundrc
[10:26] <Colloid> when's breezy due?
[10:26] <Red_Bullet> nalioth,  what program is the best for video
[10:26] <Seveas> bluesceada, I did, mjr has and someone else is working on it
[10:26] <bluesceada> ah ok
[10:26] <lolindir> i have windows installed to another hard drive. im now trying to mount that to /mnt/windows but it says no medium found
[10:26] <shinu> DVSoftware: i think there is no such thing as lmsensors on apt-get
[10:26] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster has some info
[10:26] <DVSoftware> shinu: maybe lm-sensors
[10:26] <shinu> oh
[10:26] <bluesceada> Seveas: what kind of kernel did you use .. just get your own sources in usr/src , etc. ?
[10:26] <DVSoftware> !info lm-sensors
[10:26] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB
[10:26] <DVSoftware> yes
[10:26] <bluesceada> or you used some package?
[10:26] <shinu> DVSoftware: got it
[10:27] <Colloid> so when's 5.10 due?
[10:27] <Colloid> i mean what day in oct?
[10:27] <Red_Bullet> which program is the best for video ?
[10:27] <Kyral> VLC
[10:27] <Red_Bullet> vlc for linux ???
[10:27] <Seveas> bluesceada, only standard ubuntu stuff (except for a home-grown nis package)
[10:27] <SiliconViper> Colloid, when it's ready, I'd imagine.
[10:27] <Kyral> ja ja
[10:27] <nalioth> !tell Red_Bullet about restricted
[10:27] <Colloid> ;<
[10:28] <Seveas> Colloid, 13
[10:28] <bluesceada> Seveas: how did you do the cluster then ?
[10:28] <kurt> !tell kurt about restricted
[10:28] <bluesceada> you did use openmosix .. or what ?
[10:28] <Seveas> bluesceada, read that wikipage, it describes it all
[10:28] <poningru> question why isnt firefox 1.5 being allowed in to breazy?
[10:28] <bluesceada> ah thx sry overread that
[10:28] <Red_Bullet> Kyral,  give me link for vlc please ?
[10:28] <poningru> no one answered it last time I asked
[10:28] <Red_Bullet> how to install vlc to ubuntu
[10:28] <poningru> Red_Bullet: its in the repositories
[10:28] <Kyral> Red_Bullet, sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:28] <Seveas> bluesceada, and it's a beowulf cluster, so no distributed operating system
[10:29] <Red_Bullet> k
[10:29] <Red_Bullet> 10x
[10:29] <robotgeek> bluesceada: also take a look at rocks cluster
[10:29] <bluesceada> Seveas: ok ..
[10:29] <Red_Bullet> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[10:29] <Seveas> !info vlc
[10:30] <Red_Bullet> theare aren't any package with vlc
[10:30] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[10:31] <pitti> Seveas: not any more since hoary
[10:31] <Seveas> Red_Bullet, there is, enable universe
[10:31] <Seveas> !repos
[10:31] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:31] <Red_Bullet> but i'am with kde
[10:31] <Red_Bullet> with
[10:31] <Red_Bullet> kynaptic
[10:31] <Red_Bullet> no synaptic
[10:31] <djm62> is there any way to change gnome input methods via a keyboard shortcut?
[10:31] <Seveas> pitti, ah ok, I suppose the changelog shows why :)
[10:32] <poningru> why is vlc in the universe?
[10:32] <djm62> the context menu is a pain when mingling latin and cyrillic script
[10:32] <bluesceada> Seveas: dont know if that was what i wanted .. i wanted a cluster for computing like openmosix .. so it's like smp
[10:32] <poningru> I vlc is gpl
[10:32] <Red_Bullet> i cant start repository
[10:32] <jmoesen> anyone familiar with postfix and LMTP?
[10:32] <pitti> Seveas: yes
[10:32] <NightBird> hm... so I'm trying to do an apt-get update...
[10:32] <bytefoo> sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <bytefoo> :|
[10:32] <NightBird> however I'm getting errors with the hoary universe and multiverse packages
[10:32] <bytefoo> maybe you spelled it wrong
[10:32] <NightBird> it says it's Moved or something like that
[10:33] <NightBird> http://archive.ubuntu.com hoaty/universe Packages
[10:33] <bytefoo> hoary != hoaty
[10:33] <bytefoo> :O
[10:33] <Seveas> NightBird, please state the exact error
[10:33] <NightBird> er... hoary sorry
[10:33] <Seveas> and indeed, hoaty is a typo
[10:33] <Hype-> is the release date for berezy set yet ?
[10:33] <alejandrodelloco> I have a query
[10:33] <Hype-> breezy
[10:33] <bytefoo> i heard oct 14th on some blog :/
[10:34] <NightBird> "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages 302 Moved [IP: 82.211.81.138 89] 
[10:34] <Seveas> Hype-, Oct. 13
[10:34] <pussfeller> lmtp?
[10:34] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezySchedule
[10:34] <bytefoo> i don't think ther eis a / in there NightBird
[10:34] <Hype-> Seveas: ok, tnx!
[10:34] <jmoesen> pussfeller: local mail transfer protocol; smtp without a mail queue; used for virus/spam scanning etc
[10:34] <pussfeller> ah, no then
[10:34] <NightBird> in the file it says "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe"
[10:34] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule <-- that's the correct one
[10:34] <alejandrodelloco> I just installed 5.0.4 on a somewhat cannibalized dell box
[10:35] <alejandrodelloco> and x can't open a display
[10:35] <alejandrodelloco> it reads the monitor and vid card
[10:35] <NightBird> since I have an older video card
[10:35] <alejandrodelloco> and I have poked at it in terminal mode
[10:35] <synd> is there a fee to sell on ebay?
[10:35] <alejandrodelloco> (I can't post a log  because that machine is somewhere else)
[10:35] <jmoesen> synd: yes
[10:35] <ilba7r> sometimes esd does not release my sound device and i have to kill it manually is there a thread of why and how to correct that?
[10:36] <pussfeller> i never could get nvtv to work
[10:36] <alejandrodelloco> what can cause x not to open a display
[10:36] <NightBird> pussfeller, I've tried getting s-video out working under normal nvidia, however I have yet to manage to get it to work properly..
[10:36] <pcharky> pussfeller: neither did I, the tuner never even showed in lspci.
[10:37] <bluesceada> hmm
[10:37] <bluesceada> anyone did an opemosix cluster with ubuntu
[10:37] <bluesceada> s/opemosix/openmosix
[10:37] <typo> hoary doesn't seem to want to automatically mount my USB2.0 external disk. The kernel sees it fine, and I can mount it myself, but gnome-volume-manager does nothing apparently
[10:37] <pussfeller> you want my mx400 xorg.conf with tv out nightbird
[10:37] <pcharky> BlueEagle: nope
[10:38] <alejandrodelloco> blagh
[10:38] <typo> my digital camera is mounted fine though
[10:38] <typo> but that's not usb2, could it be that?
[10:38] <alejandrodelloco> I am stuck in goddamnned terminal mode here
[10:38] <alejandrodelloco> gimme a hand
[10:38] <BeFalou> I've just installed fglrx but when I play ET it doesn't fit in the screen is uses just a little square, how can i fix it?
[10:38] <alejandrodelloco> I want me my X WInders
[10:38] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: okay, bring it on..
[10:38] <NightBird> pussfeller, hm? oh, what you got it to work with? hm...
[10:38] <alejandrodelloco> ok, X can't open a display
[10:39] <alejandrodelloco> it reads the monitor and vid card ok
[10:39] <alejandrodelloco> (it's a fairly old dell, ati card)
[10:39] <pussfeller> NightBird: yes the actual config file for the xserver, your mileage may vary but it give you a start
[10:39] <NightBird> sure.... but how would I get it to the computer? just start typing?
[10:39] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: did you check the logs? tail -n 50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:39] <Seveas> typo, can you mount it with pmount as regular user?
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> yeah, I looked at it
[10:40] <pussfeller> open it in an editor and open the old one and paste the parts you need....
[10:40] <typo> Seveas: what's the command?
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> and that's how I can tell it read the card and monitor
[10:40] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: any lines starting with: EE?
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> ooh
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> shit
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> see, it was this morning
[10:40] <Seveas> typo, first unmount it
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> and I forget
[10:40] <Seveas> and then: pmount /dev/your_usb_disk
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> that computer is behind a firewall and cannot get onto IRC
[10:40] <alejandrodelloco> since it is at a school
[10:40] <CarlFK> added a drive to an XP/ntfs box.  installed breezy to the 2nd drive, grub to the mbr of the first.  when I boot I get "grub error 21"  if I boot from a liveCD I can mount hdb1 and cd into boot/grub
[10:41] <alejandrodelloco> I amy check that
[10:41] <NightBird> I can't do dcc
[10:41] <alejandrodelloco> what I want to know is what are a few possibilities
[10:41] <typo> Seveas: "Error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable"
[10:41] <CarlFK> my guess is grub dosn't know where to look for menu.lst?
[10:41] <NightBird> I'm behind a firewall that keeps me from doing it
[10:41] <NightBird> and the firewall isn't under my control
[10:41] <Seveas> typo, than that's the problem, the device is advertizing itself wrong
[10:41] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: you should look for lines contiaining 'EE' in them, they report errors.
[10:41] <typo> Seveas: I've used this exact same device in another hoary box
[10:41] <alejandrodelloco> aha
[10:41] <Seveas> pmount can only mount devices that properly identify themselves as removable
[10:42] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: ps. without the quotes ;)
[10:42] <pussfeller> NightBird: ill put it on my webstie and give you the url
[10:42] <alejandrodelloco> I did read a few about the directories being wrong
[10:42] <Seveas> typo, if it worked in hoary, you've found a bug -- contact pitti
[10:42] <alejandrodelloco> like it didn't read a few of the x dirs
[10:42] <alejandrodelloco> like fonts
[10:42] <typo> Seveas: but this is hoary as well
[10:42] <Seveas> typo, hmm
[10:42] <typo> Seveas: So it's probably a kernel bug
[10:42] <Stalwart> in ubuntucalendar there is preview release planned today... where is it?
[10:42] <typo> Seveas: I have to roll my own, the ubuntu ones don't work
[10:42] <Determinist> !backports
[10:42] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:42] <Seveas> typo, right...
[10:43] <typo> Seveas: so what should I do? kernel.org bugzilla?
[10:43] <Seveas> I'd still suggest contacting pitti -- he wrote pmount and can probably tell you where to look for the error
[10:43] <Seveas> look at the lshal entry for /dev/sda1 for a start
[10:43] <Seveas> that should say is_removable="true" or something like that
[10:44] <pcharky> alejandrodelloco: is there a possibility you can post it on paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[10:45] <typo> Seveas: "storage.removable = false"
[10:46] <typo> Seveas: strange, it says the same for /dev/hda but this is usb mounted and hal knows that
[10:46] <typo> Seveas: do you know where hal gets that removable thing?
[10:46] <Seveas> from udev
[10:47] <typo> Seveas: From dmesg: "Attached scsi disk"
[10:47] <eliasson_> Can somebody be nice to send me /etc/init.d/hotplug?
[10:47] <Seveas> typo, see man pmount for the details on this
[10:47] <typo> Seveas: and I've seen examples on the web and the message was "Attached scsi removable disk"
[10:47] <eliasson_> i manage to delete it.. :)
[10:47] <typo> Seveas: So I guess the kernel changed behaviour recently
[10:48] <Seveas> dunno
[10:48] <eliasson_> anyone :(
[10:48] <Seveas> eliasson_, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2022 -o /etc/init.d/hotplug
[10:49] <Seveas> eliasson_, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2022 -O /etc/init.d/hotplug
[10:49] <Seveas> the O is a capital oh
[10:49] <pcharky> eliasson_: apt-get --reinstall install hotplug
[10:50] <muszek> hello
[10:50] <Seveas> hi
[10:51] <muszek> a list with users (the one on the right) disappeared in x-chat... and I can't find an option that turns it on... does anyone know what to do?
[10:51] <danl> ok, it's not just pdf's that don't work in firefox, any download i try causes an error
[10:51] <DrTiger> how can I make a script I wrote have sudo rights, but invokable by average users?
[10:51] <Seveas> muszek, hit <ctrl>i several times
[10:52] <DrTiger> I'd like to automize my network settings for my laptop
[10:52] <Niko> bonsoir !!
[10:52] <Seveas> DrTiger, you can't
[10:52] <Seveas> that's not possible for script
[10:52] <Niko> oupss
[10:52] <DrTiger> thats really bad
[10:52] <Niko> exit
[10:52] <typo> Seveas: found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg36352.html
[10:53] <DrTiger> at the moment my pppoe config works over "pon dsl-provider"
[10:53] <typo> Seveas: the user said that updating to libsysfs 1.3.0 solved it
[10:53] <muszek> re.....
[10:53] <Seveas> pon can be used by any user in the dip group
[10:53] <Seveas> typo, ah right
[10:53] <DrTiger> I have to enter this command whenever I boot or the network cable gets out
[10:53] <Seveas> I knew that
[10:53] <muszek> can anyone please tell me w/o making lame jokes?
[10:53] <Red_Bullet> are appear emulator for games NOpay like cedega
[10:53] <Seveas> 2.6.12 and hoary userland cause this bug
[10:54] <typo> Seveas: ok, so what should I do?
[10:54] <typo> Seveas: time to try breezy?
[10:54] <HappyFool> muszek: have you asked in #xchat ?
[10:54] <Seveas> typo, either use a 2.6.10 kernel or move to breezy :)
[10:54] <Seveas> muszek, hit <ctrl>i several times <----
[10:54] <muszek> nope
[10:54] <HappyFool> muszek: it looks like Seveas has given you a solution anyway (hit ctrl+i a few times)
[10:54] <typo> how stable is breezy and how smooth is the upgrade from hoary?
[10:54] <theine> Hi, which kernel module is responsible for /dev/input/mice? is there a unique one?
[10:54] <Seveas> it's not 100% stable
[10:54] <muszek> eh... cya
[10:54] <kurt> typo: it's a little bit of a pain.
[10:55] <Quinthius> hmm, do indexes/bookmarks not work in evince?
[10:55] <Seveas> when it is, the upgrade will be smooth
[10:55] <typo> kurt: Seveas: thanks, I might do it when I have more time
[10:55] <kurt> most of the problems I experienced with the upgrade had to do with xorg.
[10:55] <GregAsche> is there a way to make links clickable in the gnome terminal?
[10:56] <theine> I debootstrapped breezy and for some reason, /dev/input/mice is missing...
[10:56] <Kyral> GregAsche, that hurts my head
[10:56] <DrTiger> how can I add myself to the "dip" group?
[10:56] <GregAsche> what do you mean Kyral?
[10:56] <hussam> will the breezy preview release be out today?
[10:56] <DrTiger> it's not present in the dialog from gnome, but I can't create that group since it exists already
[10:56] <Kyral> You just asked if you can click links in a text mode browser
[10:56] <GregAsche> i want to make it so that I can double click URLs that show up in the terminal and have them open in firefox
[10:57] <theine> DrTiger: sudo adduser <user> <group>
[10:57] <HappyFool> try 'sudo adduser DrTiger dip'
[10:57] <GregAsche> sorry, my first question was confusing
[10:57] <Kyral> URLS shouldn't be showing up in the term
[10:57] <pitti> typo: sorry, was at the phone. Can you please open a bug about this and do the steps on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices?
[10:57] <nalioth> GregAsche: i have an answer for you
[10:57] <Kyral> unless you are using a console IRC Client
[10:57] <GregAsche> i am
[10:57] <DrTiger> I'm already member of that group but I still can't call pon
[10:57] <nalioth> GregAsche: install links2 and run it with "links -g" and you can click links in the gnome terminal (in more ways than one)
[10:57] <Kyral> lol, sorry
[10:57] <GregAsche> i asked in there channel, they said that I would have to find a terminal plugin
[10:58] <theine> DrTiger: you might have to log out and in again
[10:58] <Seveas> pitti, it is not a bug but a known incompatibility between hoary and 2.6.12 kernels
[10:58] <DrTiger> I have always been in that group
[10:58] <pitti> Seveas: uh, hoary+2.6.12? that is likely to fail, yes
[10:58] <HappyFool> DrTiger: what error do you get from the pon?
[10:58] <HappyFool> DrTiger: don't paste more than two lines in #ubuntu
[10:58] <pitti> Seveas: I didn't follow the discussion
[10:59] <typo> pitti: It's a problem with kernels > 2.6.11 and hoary userspace
[10:59] <Seveas> pitti, so you can relax, it's not something you have to fix ;)
[10:59] <Trebz> Can anyone point me to a good nvidia twinview howto?  I've looked everywhere and I still can't get both my monitors working :-(
[10:59] <typo> pitti: pmount thinks it's not removable apparently
[11:00] <pitti> typo: why don't you use the hoary kernel?
[11:00] <pitti> typo: s/pmount/the kernel/, pmount just reads it from sysfs
[11:00] <Chadza> What's the command to reset X?
[11:00] <Seveas> typo, that's because libsysfs tells that it isn't ;)
[11:00] <Seveas> Chadza, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[11:00] <typo> pitti: doesn't work on my system
[11:00] <vipaca> I am a gentoo user I have used redhat and I didn't like the bloat however I am looking for a little more than gentoo minimal install what does ubuntu have to offer?
[11:00] <Chadza> I remember that one, I mean the dpkg-reconfigure xsomething one.
[11:01] <typo> Seveas: yes, and it isn't. In the kernel removable means stuff like floppy's or zip disks. It's different from hot-pluggable
[11:01] <pitti> typo: hm, you should use Breezy in the first place then - grab the preview image while it is still hot :-)
[11:01] <crispynix-v6> Is breezy going to get amarok 1.3 before release?
[11:01] <Seveas> xserver-xorg and not xsomething :)
[11:01] <pitti> typo: it was released some minutes ago
[11:01] <theine> Chadza: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <Seveas> crispynix-v6, no
[11:01] <Chadza> You are one again my hero.
[11:01] <adapt> is there a ppc specific channel?
[11:01] <GregAsche> nalioth: links -g doesn't work
[11:01] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: why not?
[11:01] <theine> Chadza: but that does what it does, it reconfigures
[11:01] <Seveas> because breezy is in feature freeze already
[11:01] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: gaim 1.5 and gnome 2.12 went in
[11:01] <nalioth> GregAsche: did you install links2 ?
[11:02] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: so obviously not so frozen
[11:02] <GregAsche> nalioth: yes
[11:02] <Seveas> gaim 1.5 was released before feature freeze and gnome is the one exception to the freeze
[11:02] <typo> pitti: yeah, I should try to see if the bug is fixed. Pretty annoying. All the ubuntu kernels fail to boot with ACPI on. Never seen it before in any other kernels. But noone seemed to care about the bug.
[11:02] <GregAsche> Unknown option -g
[11:02] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: ah.
[11:02] <nalioth> GregAsche: hmm, interesting
[11:02] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: well, will the long-standing bugs in KDE be fixed before breezy is released at least?
[11:02] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: ubuntu's kde, that is
[11:03] <Doonz> can you guys recomend a good site with resunme templates for open office?
[11:03] <Seveas> crispynix-v6, from now until release the only thing that developers do id fixing bugs
[11:03] <Riddell> crispynix-v6: which bug?
[11:03] <kemik> breezy will use gnome 2.12 right ?
[11:03] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: well, I hope they manage to fix a few bugs that have been around for months now. Kaffeine crashing on exit, kcmshell keyboard showing up blank, etc.
[11:03] <typo> pitti: this was what I found: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg36352.html
[11:04] <kurt> kemik: yes.
[11:04] <Seveas> crispynix-v6, ask on #kubuntu, the main ubuntu KDE devs hang out there
[11:04] <nalioth> GregAsche: if you'd like to compile it with graphics and javascipt capabilities, grab it from here http://links.twibright.com/  , run ./configure --help  , enable the things you want and drive on
[11:04] <crispynix-v6> Riddell: those and sometimes kicker crashes right before the X session shuts down
[11:04] <kurt> 2.12 is in it now.
[11:04] <Trebz> Why does Ubuntu keep changing my BIOS clock an hour backwards??
[11:04] <kemik> sweet
[11:04] <kemik> breezy will be a niice update
[11:04] <kurt> Maybe, maybe not.
[11:04] <Riddell> crispynix-v6: actually kaffeine crashes all the time now but that's a priority to look at
[11:04] <Riddell> crispynix-v6: kcmshell keyboard works for me
[11:05] <crispynix-v6> Riddell: hm, comes up blank here. kaffeine only crahses on exit for me, never otherwise.
[11:05] <crispynix-v6> the keyboard thing might be a bug with my inst then (came from debian)
[11:05] <pinucset> hi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...
[11:05] <Riddell> pinucset: you need to set the session to kde
[11:05] <pinucset> yes
[11:06] <pinucset> i've done startup by kde for default
[11:06] <pinucset> he starts with kde and then goes to gnome
[11:06] <Dr_Net> why can i not acces wpasupplicant by apt-get?
[11:07] <Seveas> Dr_Net, you can
[11:07] <HappyFool> Dr_Net: have you setup your network repositories? and what architecture are you on ? (x86/amd64/ppc)
[11:07] <pinucset> hi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...
[11:07] <Seveas> !info wpasupplicant
[11:07] <Trebz> Nobody knows why Ubuntu is changing my bios clock then?  Reckon it was somthing to do with when I picked UTC or whatever during install...where can I change that?
[11:07] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[11:07] <Seveas> Dr_Net, enable universe
[11:08] <Octax> Hello!
[11:08] <Dr_Net> i've x86
[11:08] <Octax> how do i install programs with ubuntu?
[11:08] <Dr_Net> where can i look up what files are available in different repositories?
[11:08] <adapt> octax, read
[11:08] <pinucset> apt-get :)
[11:08] <HappyFool> wpasupplicant is available for all architectures anyway; follow Seveas advice
[11:08] <Dr_Net> if my laptop is not online
[11:09] <Dr_Net> !info wpasupplicant
[11:09] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[11:09] <HappyFool> Dr_Net: packages.ubuntu.com, or use 'apt-cache policy <packagename>'
[11:09] <Octax> ?
[11:09] <adapt> octax that information has been written 1002148u58128512 times. just search google.
[11:09] <HappyFool> Octax: using a program called synaptic
[11:10] <Octax> ok
[11:10] <HappyFool> !tell Octax abotu synaptic
[11:10] <HappyFool> hmm
[11:10] <HappyFool> oh, oops
[11:10] <Octax> lol
[11:10] <HappyFool> !tell Octax about synaptic
[11:10] <pinucset> !tell pinucset about synaptic
[11:10] <HappyFool> Octax: read that webpage, it should help
[11:10] <pinucset> test
[11:10] <Seveas> adapt, that's not the policy in here, just help the person
[11:10] <Octax> cool thanks happyfool.
[11:10] <Dr_Net> i got synaptcics work but my university uses wpa so i need wpa support as well ^^
[11:11] <Seveas> Dr_Net, then install wpasupplicant..
[11:11] <Dr_Net> i'm trying to, but getting an error message while compiling it
[11:11] <HappyFool> compiling?
[11:11] <HappyFool> tsk tsk
[11:11] <Dr_Net> i d/l the source though
[11:11] <Seveas> you don't need to compile it
[11:12] <HappyFool> Dr_Net: have you enabled the universe repository ?
[11:12] <Seveas> install it from synaptic
[11:12] <Dr_Net> need to try from rasparitory
[11:12] <Octax> so if i download a program from the internet i can use synaptic to install it correct?
[11:12] <HappyFool> Octax: no, synaptic does the downloading too
[11:12] <HappyFool> Octax: what software do you want to install?
[11:12] <pinucset> if its a tar.gz. isnt necessary, you only have to decompress :)
[11:13] <Xanadu> hello everyone
[11:13] <Octax> zsnes
[11:13] <Dr_Net> i've two machines : desktop and latpot, so trying to get it working on laptop which doesnt have internet access yet
[11:13] <theine> !info zsnes
[11:13] <ubotu> zsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.360-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 2752 kB
[11:13] <HappyFool> Octax: you can install zsnes using synaptic if you enable the 'multiverse' repository
[11:13] <HappyFool> !tell Octax about repos
[11:15] <pinucset> hi, one think. I've installed ubuntu. And i've done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I reset the computer and he aks for login and pass with kde, but then it goes tu gnome... whats the matter? Please help...
[11:15] <kurt> pinucset: the sessions option
[11:15] <kurt> and select KE
[11:15] <kurt> KDE
[11:16] <pinucset> of course
[11:16] <pinucset> thanks!
[11:16] <pinucset> :D
[11:16] <Octax> !
[11:16] <ubotu> Octax: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:17] <Octax> yeah
[11:17] <h17m4n> Question: How do I access my windows SharedDocs folder?
[11:17] <pinucset> do you know if there are some ubuntu tshirts for supporting them? :)
[11:17] <Seveas> h17m4n, system -> connect to server
[11:17] <Seveas> pinucset, yes there are
[11:18] <pinucset> where can i buy them seveas?
[11:18] <CookedGryphon> please help me someone! :(
[11:18] <CookedGryphon> i can't get my laptop modem to work
[11:18] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: is it a winmodem?
[11:18] <CookedGryphon> yes
[11:18] <CookedGryphon> i got it to work once with slmodem
[11:18] <Seveas> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[11:19] <CookedGryphon> then it stopped and i don't know y
[11:19] <Seveas> you can get ubuntu underwear too :)
[11:19] <pinucset> lol!!! xD
[11:19] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: hmm. ok, i'm not familiar with slmodem, but this page is where i'd start: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[11:19] <pinucset> the girls will want to fuck me at all xDDD
[11:19] <CookedGryphon> HappyFool, i've been there
[11:20] <CookedGryphon> Tell you what might help!
[11:20] <reiki> ubotu tell reiki about restricted formats
[11:20] <HappyFool> try just 'restricted'
[11:20] <CookedGryphon> i am using the modem applet in gnome to dial up at the moment, how do i set up somethign to give me more feedback to see where in the connection it is failing?
[11:20] <Dr_Net> how do i install wpa from downloaded .deb file?
[11:21] <Seveas> Dr_Net, use synaptic to install it from the repositories
[11:21] <Seveas> don't just download debs manually
[11:21] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: look in /var/log/messages
[11:21] <Dr_Net> Seveas, thx
[11:21] <Dr_Net> Seveas, my laptop is not connected
[11:21] <CookedGryphon> kk
[11:21] <Dr_Net> i'm trying to go wireless
[11:21] <Seveas> Dr_Net, ah ok
[11:22] <Dr_Net> can i still do it from debs?
[11:22] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i wpasupplicant*.deb
[11:22] <CookedGryphon> aha, failed ( NO CARRIER )
[11:23] <wh0rd> hi
[11:23] <CookedGryphon> also some stuff about apm being overridden by ACPI...
[11:24] <Trebz> I just started using gaim and it's now telling me there is a newer version, looking on their site, i see a new version, but they have rpm, source rpm, source bz and exe....which one can i install on Ubuntu?
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> hmm, my power management int so good on my laptop could that b summat to do with it
[11:24] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: is the line working?
[11:24] <wh0rd> i wonder if anyone can help me, i'm trying to write a script that would simple set acpi value maximum brightness if it's 0 or 0 if it's maximum bright
[11:24] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: connect a phone and check for dialtone
[11:25] <CookedGryphon> HappyFool, i'm using the same line and ISP and everything now on a different computer
[11:25] <wh0rd> i tried grep to retrive the /proc/acpi/sony/brt but it gave me weird results
[11:25] <wh0rd> any hints?
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> Trebz, you could install the rpm or bz, but may b better off waiting for it to be put in the ubuntu repositories and then usung apt-get
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> using*
[11:26] <Trebz> ok, cool with that....what is the reason for waiting?
[11:26] <Trebz> (sorry if that's a daft Q)
[11:26] <seatouch> hey
[11:26] <Seveas> Trebz, in a month breezy will be released with gaim 1.5 included
[11:26] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: afaik NO CARRIER means the modem thinks the line is dead (I may be wrong)
[11:26] <seatouch> anyone know which plugins to install to play vob ( dvd's ) files
[11:27] <seatouch> ??
[11:27] <sn0n> hmmm... this would be a fun way to learn some crap...
[11:27] <BSG75> hola
[11:27] <CookedGryphon> seatouch, try installing all the gstreamer packages
[11:27] <Trebz> Hope the next version will better support BOTH my monitors....still having to boot into XP for work as can't get both screens to work in Ubuntu :-(
[11:27] <seatouch> CookedGryphon, ive installed them but still cant play
[11:28] <CookedGryphon> what error message r u getting?
[11:28] <HappyFool> !tell seatouch about restricted
[11:28] <BSG75> I need to use alsa .. I don't want esd at all .. is there a way to get rid of it without effecting sound in gnome?
[11:28] <capoeira> Hi, anybody know how bad my system is going to break if I dist-upgrade to breezy?
[11:28] <xeiro> hello all
[11:28] <CookedGryphon> i want to kno that too, will it keep all my gnome setting s n things?
[11:28] <Bergcube> NO CARRIER means no dial tone.
[11:29] <reiki> is it unusual for packages from Hoary Extras to not be authenticated?
[11:29] <seatouch> HappyFool, There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrecorder/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_3.VOB", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:29] <hussam> capoeira: same here. will anything big like kernel or x break?
[11:29] <SuperTails92> reiki: Not really.
[11:29] <BSG75> I find the xine working much better than gstream
[11:29] <HappyFool> seatouch: please read the restrictedformats page on the wiki (ubotu should have sent you the link); that will tell you what you need to install
[11:29] <reiki> ok... I'm looking at gstreamer stuff mostly
[11:29] <CookedGryphon> NO CARRIER may not mean that with my winmodem tho.. it may jstu not b detecting it...
[11:30] <xeiro> anyone know how I can start a program on a vt and direct the output to the GUI?
[11:30] <BSG75> anyone done ALSA work with gnome? I need to stop esd
[11:31] <HaroldJohnson> Where's nalioth?  We have a showdown at noon.
[11:31] <xeiro> what kind of showdown?
[11:31] <xeiro> :)
[11:31] <CookedGryphon> BSG75, try sudo killall esd then search for esd in synaptic and say mark for removal
[11:32] <Bergcube> CookedGryphon~ The moden control codes and feedback messages are very standardized in this day and age.  The difference between no dial tone (Bo carrier) and a dead line is significat in some situations, as some PBXs don't give any dial tone until you press 0 on the phone.  Are you able to send and get messages from it in the terminal window?
[11:32] <BSG75> CookedGrypho: I killed esd .. I will uninstall it too
[11:32] <Twiggy> Is there a repo that I could find hoary builds of Xorg CVS?
[11:32] <HaroldJohnson> Nalioth has been causing trouble...
[11:32] <HaroldJohnson> ...so we have a High Noon.
[11:32] <CookedGryphon> Bergcube, i jstu use the gnome modem applet to dial, so i don't know
[11:33] <Trebz> Does anyone here have dual displays working with an nvidia card?
[11:33] <Maikeru> To associate with a network from command line what do I do?
[11:33] <HaroldJohnson> (No, we're not 'getting high' at noon...)
[11:33] <CookedGryphon> Bergcube, and i have to run a daemon to make it work at all, cos its a winmodem
[11:33] <Maikeru> I did iwconfig ath0 <info>
[11:33] <Maikeru> but it's like it doesn't connect to the network
[11:33] <seatouch> HappyFool, ive insalled the libdvdcss2 from /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh still it i cant play .vob files
[11:33] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone here know how to compile a Perl module on Panther?
[11:33] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: what you should do is check the line with a phone or other instrument; you will at least rule out one possible failure
[11:33] <Maikeru> however, when I go into networking dialog and deacvtivate then activate it works fine
[11:33] <HaroldJohnson> Sorry for asking that question here in #ubuntu.
[11:34] <Bergcube> CookedGryphon~ Ah.  I see.  The good solution is probably "get a real modem".  And I guess you're not to keen on that one.  What make and model number is it?  (If you know...)
[11:34] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: look in ##apple
[11:34] <BSG75> can't take out libesd0 without effecting a whole pile of stuff
[11:34] <CookedGryphon> Bergcube, the Laptop is an IPC powernote A, the modem, SiS 630
[11:35] <seatouch> hey anyone mind helping me on installing a dvd player , coded to play a dvd?
[11:35] <CookedGryphon> HappyFool, i'm using the phone line atm to talk to u
[11:35] <erUSUL> BSG75, what's the problem whith esd?
[11:35] <BSG75> erUSUL: cann't get sound out of cedega without turning esd off
[11:36] <erUSUL> right
[11:36] <BSG75> I should be able to use just alsa
[11:36] <lwizardl> hi
[11:37] <lwizardl> i'm using the live cd and need some help mounting my hdd1
[11:37] <kurt> mount /dev/hdd1 /whatever
[11:37] <funkyHat> :( shame it's not possible to make abcde rip straight to mp3/ogg from the cd, extracting it to .wav first is veryt time consuming
[11:37] <funkyHat> *very
[11:38] <CookedGryphon> Bergcube, also, i would get a real modem but i'm jsut using this till i get to uni when i'm gna use their internet, so i don't want to be investing any money in it
[11:38] <Bergcube> CookedGryphon~ I understand.  Stand by, I am googling a bit......
[11:38] <lwizardl> whats the /whatever?
[11:39] <Seveas> the path to your mountpoint
[11:39] <lwizardl> i want to mount the ntfs drive every linux I have tried sees that drive as hdd1
[11:39] <seatouch> hey
[11:39] <seatouch> please help
[11:39] <seatouch> i need a dvd player / codec
[11:39] <Seveas> lwizardl: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:40] <CarlFK> trying to build from source: configure: error: transcode depends on libz, but cannot links against libz
[11:40] <CarlFK> I don't see a libz package
[11:40] <erUSUL> seatouch, use xine works for me
[11:40] <lwizardl> how do i run that
[11:40] <seatouch> erUSUL, it says codec is missing
[11:40] <seatouch> ive installed the codec but still the error comes
[11:41] <BSG75> u don't have libdvdcss .. correct for spelling
[11:41] <BSG75> google unofficial ubuntu ... setup is there
[11:41] <seatouch> BSG75, tell where i can get that
[11:41] <Trebz> Quic easy Q - How do I restart X ?
[11:41] <CookedGryphon> ctrl alt and backspace
[11:41] <BSG75> seatouch: one sec
[11:41] <funkyHat> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:42] <Trebz> ta
[11:42] <seatouch> BSG75, ok
[11:42] <lwizardl> ok got it thanks
[11:42] <CookedGryphon> also funky i found out by accident today, if u have a root password, u can shut the x server by oging into singlke user mode, jsut type shutdown now
[11:42] <sean_> hello?
[11:43] <CookedGryphon> and it jstu leaves u with a console, would have been handy when i was configuring my nvidia card
[11:43] <funkyHat> heh
[11:43] <h> who knows gdb
[11:43] <BSG75> seatouch: apt-get install libdvdcss win32codecs
[11:43] <seatouch> thanks BSG75
[11:43] <Bergcube> CookedGryphon~ AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.....:  1.) Your modem is Hayes compatible.  (As expected, and as it should bloody well be.)  2.) Other people have got it working on various Laptops under Linux.  Conclusion?  Well, I am not really a Linux hardware guru.  (Yet?)  But it really seems to be fixable.  I think you'll find help by googling.....
[11:43] <funkyHat> i only just figured out how to make the shutdown command actually power off my server yesterday
[11:43] <sean_> hey guys, i got a problem with my ubuntu computer, i am a newb, can you guys help me?
[11:43] <funkyHat> sean_, just ask :)
[11:44] <othernoob> does anyone in here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer?
[11:44] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, lol
[11:44] <seatouch> BSG75, apt-get install libdvdcss win32codecs
[11:44] <h> How do I pass program options to gdb?
[11:44] <seatouch> BSG75, Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:44] <seatouch> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:44] <seatouch> is only available from another source
[11:44] <seatouch> E: Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate
[11:44] <CookedGryphon> seatouch, i got that
[11:44] <CookedGryphon> but can play dvds neway
[11:44] <BSG75> seatouch: are you using the backport source.list?
[11:44] <CookedGryphon> tho not the matrix for some reason
[11:44] <seatouch> BSG75, yea
[11:44] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, it shut down fine, it just sat there and said 'power down' which is fine, when i'm looking at the monitor, i can press the button. but it doesn't even have a monitor now that it's set up
[11:44] <pawdro> hello, is gnome 2.12 available to download for ubuntu
[11:44] <pawdro> ?
[11:45] <othernoob> don't you need libdvdcss2 ?
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy replace all instances of Hoary with Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <sean_> okay6, i am trying to play .avi files, but i don know any players to get
[11:45] <lwizardl> ok
[11:45] <seatouch> othernoob, i just installed that
[11:45] <lwizardl> my drive shows up as "8.4G Media"
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, then sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:45] <funkyHat> sean_, do you have w32codecs installed?
[11:45] <lwizardl> but if i type that in it errors on 8.4G not found
[11:45] <funkyHat> !info w32codecs
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, Breezy is still a development version tho, so it might not work out of the box just yet.
[11:45] <othernoob> sean_: vlc, mplayer for example
[11:45] <test34> is breezy stable ?
[11:45] <sean_> no, do i just apt-get install w32codecs?
[11:46] <pawdro> HiddenWolf: but i want my hoary with gnome 2.12
[11:46] <sean_> i got vlc player, but it wont open avi files
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> test34, mostly, preview release will be today
[11:46] <pawdro> not to upgrade to breezy
[11:46] <DaMi3n> i hae some problem playing wmas off amarok....
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, then you'll have to compile it from source
[11:46] <pawdro> HiddenWolf: :/
[11:46] <thehil>  Who knows how to pass options to program in gdb?
[11:46] <funkyHat> sean_, no, w32codecs isn't in any of the official repositories
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, 2.12 will not be made available for Hoary
[11:46] <pawdro> HiddenWolf: yhm
[11:46] <Trebz> how do you peeps usually edit config files?   (i mean read only ones)  I have been opening a terminal and doing sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf all the time....is that the 'right' way?
[11:46] <test34> HiddenWolf, cool, preview as an ISO ?
[11:46] <pawdro> HiddenWolf: i c
[11:47] <Trebz> seems a bit long winded!
[11:47] <sean_> do you know the url repository i should add?
[11:47] <HiddenWolf> test34, yes, will hit mirrors shortly
[11:47] <kurt> Trebz: that's what I do.
[11:47] <lwizardl> how do i get to my drive in terminal
[11:47] <chavo> Trebz, no that is so wrong
[11:47] <Trebz> lol
[11:47] <funkyHat> anyone know which repository w32codecs is in?
[11:47] <DaMi3n> how do i play wmas stored on ntfs partition using amrok???
[11:47] <chavo> How dare you
[11:47] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, ubuntu and gnome have a coupled release schedule. every 6 months, both release. Stable versions only get bugfixes.
[11:47] <Fraeon> funkyHat, at least on marillat
[11:47] <Trebz> hey, at least i'm getting away from the windows way....which is open a GUI :-)
[11:47] <erUSUL> Trebz, i use nano on the terminal or emacs -nx
[11:47] <chavo> Trebz, whatever works for you man.
[11:47] <chavo> nano is good for smaller files
[11:48] <funkyHat> Fraeon, can you tell sean_ how to add that? O:-)
[11:48] <kurt> but you can always use dpkg-reconfigure.
[11:48] <sean_> i know how to add repository, i just nano edit sources.list right?
[11:48] <Trebz> I was using nano, but couldn't work out how to copy and paste stuff (selecting text i couldn't figure out actually)
[11:48] <HiddenWolf> pawdro, trust me, you don't want to compile 2.12 on Hoary, so much has changed in the underlying structure, it's far better to upgrade.
[11:48] <sean_> and add it in
[11:48] <Fraeon> Nano is what I use if I bother touching the terminal
[11:48] <othernoob> DaMi3n: the xine engine plays wmas afaik, just mount the ntfs partition readonly
[11:48] <Fraeon> Usually it's gedit
[11:48] <chavo> yeah nano is good for quick little edits
[11:49] <adapt> do all the w32codecs work on ppc?
[11:49] <lwizardl> can someone tell me how i get get to my hdd1 drive "8.4G Media" it keeps erroring when I do cd /Devices/8.4G media
[11:49] <DaMi3n> othernoob, : afaik??
[11:49] <Seveas> adapt, none of them do
[11:49] <chavo> but I prefer gui stuff, just makes it easier
[11:49] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, you will have to get and compile the wma patched version of libtag1
[11:49] <othernoob> DaMi3n: as far as i know
[11:49] <pawdro> HiddenWolf: ok i wont do it
[11:49] <pawdro> ;] 
[11:49] <erUSUL> Trebz, whith the mouse select and midle button to paste
[11:49] <adapt> Seveas: eww. :)
[11:49] <nalioth_wrkn> adapt: none do
[11:49] <funkyHat> othernoob, he will need to patch taglib too
[11:49] <chrisbudden14> anyone set up a networked lexmark Z11 sucessfully
[11:49] <Trebz> erUSUL thanks
[11:49] <adapt> nalioth_wrkn: so basically.. no movies?
[11:49] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, search google for patched taglib
[11:49] <othernoob> funkyHat: ah okay, didn't know, don't have wmas ;)
[11:49] <seatouch> can anyone tell ?
[11:49] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : ok
[11:49] <nalioth_wrkn> adapt: no closed codec movies, no
[11:50] <seatouch> how to play dvd's
[11:50] <adapt> thats gay
[11:50] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : the thing is i can play wma stores on linu partitions but not off mounted ntfs
 pawdro, trust me, you don't want to compile 2.12 on Hoary, so much has changed in the underlying structure, it's far better to upgrade. <-- But I wouldn't touch those breezy colonies either
[11:50] <BSG75> movies work fine
[11:50] <othernoob> seatouch: vlc is capable of it
[11:51] <seatouch> othernoob, how to get it?
[11:51] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, that's really odd... do you already have taglib patched?
[11:51] <othernoob> seatouch: what? vlc? isn't it in the repos?
[11:51] <BSG75> it's working fine on mine and it will on ur's too .. if you want to cut through most of the crap .. just install mplayer with the win32codecs
[11:51] <seatouch> othernoob, yea
[11:51] <nalioth_wrkn> !tell seatouch about synaptic
[11:51] <pawdro> Fraeon: i installed colony a few days ago
[11:51] <BSG75> but I am using xine and it works great
[11:51] <pawdro> Fraeon: and my USB adsl modem didnt want initialize
[11:52] <pawdro> :/
[11:52] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : i dont think so i am searching for it
[11:52] <Fraeon> I have a similar problem
[11:52] <sean_> so what is the repo for w32codec?
[11:52] <Fraeon> It doesn't let my homepna card go online
[11:52] <BSG75> brb I think I fixed my esd
[11:52] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, i have no idea why it couldn't play your wmas from a mounted ntfs drive, patching taglib most likely won't fix that. it's really odd as amaraK can't edit wma files (tags) anyway
[11:52] <Fraeon> sean_, http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:52] <test34> HiddenWolf, I guess the preview is already available
[11:53] <BSG75> apt-get install win32codecs I think .. do a apt-cache search for win
[11:53] <sean_> thanks man
[11:53] <test34> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/
[11:53] <othernoob> Does anyone here have an AMD Sempron and is a gamer?
[11:53] <MaxeyPad> I have an existing ubuntu install on my hd, but I had to reinstall windows for my dual boot, how can I just reinstall the boot menu (grub) I don't have access to the linux install
[11:53] <nalioth_wrkn> BSG75: it's w32codecs
[11:53] <BSG75> eeks you are aright ..
[11:53] <HiddenWolf> test34, so test it!
[11:53] <Fraeon> othernoob, I have a Duron, but I'm a gamer. Just have *no* luck with wine/cvscedega.
[11:53] <nalioth_wrkn> and playing with closed codec toys leads to a sad experience
[11:54] <Fraeon> I guess it's because I have a Radeon 9800 Pro
[11:54] <test34> HiddenWolf, I'm not sure I want to erase slackware yet.. I'm not used to debian.. I'm thinking about it
[11:54] <HiddenWolf> test34, you'll be blown away, promise.
[11:54] <othernoob> Fraeon: i have a p4 3.2 and a radeon 9800 pro and no probs..
[11:54] <Muhammad> how can i install flash ?
[11:54] <Muhammad> on ubuntu ?
[11:54] <CookedGryphon> okay, i thinhk i may ahve narrowed down my modem problem, how do i configure my kernel to enable ALSA and ICH based modem support?
[11:55] <sean_> guys, i tired asking http://debian.video.free.fr/ and went apt-get update, and it said there was an error
[11:55] <sean_> so i think that the repo was no good
[11:56] <nalioth_wrkn> test34: there is always a seperate partition
[11:57] <test34> nalioth_wrkn, my HD is too small
[11:57] <kevogod> test34, Pad it with lead, makes it bulkier and larger.
[11:57] <pawdro> how to chech ver of deb installed?
[11:58] <henke> is there any archive for some older package versions? a package has been removed from my cache, but I would like to find it to revert.
[11:58] <test34> kevogod I tried uranium
[11:58] <nalioth_wrkn> test34: that's not good
[11:59] <DaMi3n> how do i play wmas stored on ntfs partition using amarok???
[11:59] <CookedGryphon> anybody got any ideas?
[11:59] <sean_> so guys