[12:03] extract .001 and the rest will follow automatically.. [12:03] 001 or 000.. or whatever is the first. === blank [n=blank@adsl-64-123-10-3.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] n8 [12:07] .001? that sounds more like an ace archive [12:07] rar is usually numbered R00 ... R99 when its a split rar [12:08] actually, sorry, more like an ARJ archive, ace also uses a prefix (C00..C99 iirc) === nikkia suddenly realises just how many pointless archive formats there have been over the years [12:09] hey nikkia, know a prog that extracts ace files? [12:09] unace? [12:09] didn't work here [12:11] but more importantly..does anyone here know if AMD Sempons are good for gaming (in windows)? [12:11] othernoob: if you don't expect too much, yes === _blank [n=blank@adsl-68-90-175-9.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] nikkia: i am to upgrade a friends PC. he gave me a limit of ~500 euro.. [12:12] you could get a decent PC for that [12:13] i put together a sempron based system for my SO the other week for 120+30+30 [12:13] another 100ish would have bought a nicer CPU :) [12:13] i have to get pretty much everything [12:13] othernoob: so did i [12:13] can't use the old tower since it's a mini.. [12:13] othernoob: the only things it lacked for that 180, was a FDD, keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers [12:14] the old PSU is from 98 or so [12:14] what did you buy? [12:14] othernoob: a 'bare bones' sempron 2600 bundle [12:15] then added a 80GB HDD (30) and a DVD+/-RW (30, but cheated) [12:15] cheated? [12:15] by cheated, i bought myself a better one, and put the cruddy old one in the new PC :) [12:15] lol [12:15] ie, my 12x LG that burns audio CDs badly went in the new PC, and i put a nice 16X LiteOn with DL-R support in here [12:16] nice [12:16] the LiteOn was only 28 inc VAT tho === dave__ [i=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:16] what kind of graphics card did you get? [12:16] othernoob: onboard, not much need for anything more === MxxCon [i=donuts@24.188.223.108] has left #kubuntu [] [12:17] well, my friend is a gamer .. [12:17] othernoob: if i had needed one, i'd have gone for a 5200 or 5700, still wouldn't have added much to the price [12:17] othernoob: well, you have around 100 more to play with... [12:18] i just got done with one configuration today, unfortunaley for a bit too much (620euro) [12:18] othernoob: that COULD buy a slightly faster CPU (either a 64bit sempron, or a lower end 'full' CPU) and a 6600GT [12:18] Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-K8N-Pro SLI ;; CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+ Venice 1,8GHz Tray Sockel 939 ;; Cooler: Zalman CNPS 7000B CU ;; RAM: 1024MB MDT TwinPacks 2*512MB DDR 400MHz ;; Graphicscard: Leadtek PX6600-TD128 GeForce 6600 128MB D/T ;; HDD: Samsung 160GB SP1614C 7200rpm 8MB sata1 ;; Tower: Techsolo TC-52 Blue-Star-Edition ;; PSU: LC-Power Silent 550W 120mm Gold Edition [12:18] why does it takes so long time to extract a dvd image from alots of compressed files. did go alot faster on windows if not mistaking.. and i have 5 gb swap and 5 gb tmp [12:19] 5gb swap????? [12:19] jupp =) [12:19] well... if i do alot of heavy video editing. [12:19] libben, and you need that because? [12:19] libben, erm [12:20] even heavy video editing doesn't require 5gb.. [12:20] i just bought a 200 gb hd.. been on a 40 gb for 5 years... so i feeled that i have enough anyway =) thats why i was so generous with swap === nikkia points out the follies of using swap for video editing [12:20] first i wanted like 2 gb at top [12:20] libben: video editing is going to go one of two ways... [12:20] either 1) it has enough ram to do it all in ram, or 2) it accesses the file as-needed, and doesn't use more than a gig or so [12:20] but then i wanted to match the swap with tmp... and taught that 5 gb on booth will never fail [12:21] so, the net gain from using swap, if (1) is possible, is 0, because it'd be faster to access the file direct [12:21] libben: swap and tmp have no relation at all [12:21] well, they certainly will never fail, but they'll also never be used/needed ;) [12:21] tmp is just junk from internet and ap-get cache [12:21] libben: no, apt-get cache is in /var [12:22] ooh =) [12:22] well... what can i do afterwards? [12:22] specifically, /var/cache/apt [12:22] can i make it to 2 gb swap and 1 gb tmp? === Chambers` [n=Thom@64.108.190.120] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] and take the rest to /home? [12:22] lets see if this fixes Veritas [12:22] oops [12:23] wait, there are still people that use a seperate /tmp partition ?!?! [12:23] well me =) [12:23] nikkia: it's still recommended in some guides... [12:23] I have /tmp /home /swap /boot / [12:23] othernoob: guides written by solaris weenies ?? [12:24] nikkia: quite possible [12:24] thats what i always hated about solaris... the insane 'default partition' sets [12:24] dont see any wrong on having diffrent parts.. [12:24] 8 default partitions is just taking the p*** IMO :) [12:26] iirc, / /usr /var /etc swap, 'full disk', /home and /tmp [12:26] bit much for me =) [12:26] http://pastebin.com/358441 [12:26] this is mine [12:27] seperate /boot is a waste of time too [12:27] where's hdb2/3/4 ? [12:27] good Q =) [12:28] there is none. [12:28] my default fstab is only 3 real disks :) [12:28] i think it has with that i choosed primary and logical when i created them [12:29] 30G for /, 270GB for /home, and 120GB for /mnt/torrents :) === genzo [n=genzo@host173-11.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] the other 300GB is autofs'ed cos i don't use it much === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:29] nikkia: u think my partitioning was wrong ? [12:29] i feel my e-penis shrinking :/ i only have 160GB [12:30] except the huge swap and tmp. [12:30] othernoob: you also don't have 6 HDDs and 2 optical disks heating your room to an inferno, so think yourself lucky :) [12:30] libben: i think it was 'noobish' :) [12:30] really, i just wanted it complex and leetish =) [12:30] nikkia: mmh, free sauna :) [12:30] libben: noobs tend to follow guides, and allocate things 'by the book' and end up running out of space in some tiny partition that would have been just as well off on a single large / :) [12:31] nikkia: never followed a guide. [12:31] this is just from my head [12:31] when i did this. [12:31] except that i know that u may need to seperate /tmp and /home from others. [12:32] i did go all the way. [12:32] no, a seperate /tmp is completely pointless [12:32] libben: you'll be able to live with the partitioning, but if it's a fresh install i'd just do it again and be back in 20-30 mins with a better partitioning scheme [12:33] (except if its a shmfs :) [12:33] but tbh, shmfs is probably better where it goes by default (/dev/shm) and the knowlege that it is there should you need to utilise it) [12:34] well, i have no problem on doing it all over. cause i havent changed a thing, unless some things that takes half hour to get in again... half our of thinking what it was and then installing it =) [12:34] maybe the java thing will get to me again..... nalioth will be so glad at me, asking for help again =) [12:34] proofreading and suggestions welcome - http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php [12:34] for example, its wise to compile jack to use /dev/shm as its temporary files location, rather than /tmp (WHICH UBUNTU DID!! :( [12:35] whats jack? [12:35] libben: an audio system, aimed at pro-audio work more than 'just playing mp3s' [12:36] why should it use /dev/shm instead of tmp? [12:36] Riddell: what was userunfriendly about KControl? [12:36] libben: because it needs very fast access to its fifo nodes [12:36] k, [12:36] othernoob: tree widget. not searchable. [12:37] libben: and if its on disk, there is potentially latency involved in looking up the fifo inodes occasionally, which can cause problems if you've got lots of audio streaming about [12:37] libben: the net result is that using the default /tmp location results in occasional clicks and pops [12:37] which is a very bad thing if you're in the middle of recording audio :) [12:37] Riddell: ah okay, but other than that System Settings is the same? or is it more windows like? [12:38] k [12:38] othernoob: it uses all the same modules [12:38] breezy? should i install that instead? [12:38] just makes them easier to find [12:38] libben: wait a few minutes and I'll have a breezy preview for you to install [12:39] should i install it instead of the stable one ? [12:39] So is it safe to upgrade to breezy now? is Xorg in breezy working [12:40] nikkia: what u suggest for my partitions when i reinstall the system? [12:40] have p4 1.7 ghz, and 768 sdram. [12:40] libben, i prefer just 2, / and /home [12:41] so 30 / and 170 /home. [12:41] but why not a seperate boot? [12:41] libben, the 'myriad of small dedicated partitions' was really from the old days when people would buy several small scsi drives [12:41] no swap? [12:41] Riddell, I'm downloading a daily image 09-08 is that the same as the preview? [12:41] libben: there's no purpose to a seperate /boot these days [12:41] yes, you want swap, i wouldn't go much beyond 2-3GB tbh [12:41] it lays on / anyway ? [12:42] libben: the reason for a seperate /boot was when lilo/grub couldn't boot off big disks, that limitation has been gone for over a year [12:42] but if u use /tmp, u can never get a flooded system. [12:42] libben: in terms of system 'problems' a seperate /tmp is far worse [12:42] k [12:43] libben: you're far more likely to fill a 5GB seperate /tmp than you are a /tmp that is part of a 30-40GB / [12:43] i was thinking of making this box to a server sooner or later, but then again i will format this shit and make it all over. [12:43] and when /tmp is full, apps like X and KDE are going to fall over dead, whether its on a seperate partition or not [12:43] chavo: 2005-09-08.2 is the preview [12:43] nikkia: oow. [12:44] whys that [12:44] alright, I'm at 87% [12:44] so what was the /tmp for then [12:44] if it messes so much even if it get flooded [12:44] I have a seperate partition for breezy testing [12:45] libben, i never really understood the idea of having a seperate /tmp, other than 'because we use lots of small disks' [12:45] 2-3 gb swap mmh..still sounds like a lot.. i just have a 1gb and no problems [12:45] nikkia: well its for mail systems and so on, when programs could generate alots of logs that eate ur harddrive. [12:45] yeah, never touch the swap here [12:45] thats why [12:45] libben: it doesn't really offer any security, even if something floods /tmp and fills your filesystem, you're going to be just as hosed until a reboot either way, and on [k] ubuntu a reboot wipes /tmp [12:45] safty net sortof speak [12:46] libben: almost everything logs in /var [12:46] well I am now, but I have two sessions running [12:46] two X sessions, a gnome and a KDE === MikeStyle [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] so 2 gb swap then, and / and /home should be enough on next installation. [12:47] libben: basically, every time you seperate out a bit of the filesystem to a seperate disk/partition, you complicate your disk allocation strategy, and you LOSE diskspace that is sat 'unused' on that partition [12:47] if i install the breezy preview do i need to reinstall (wipe it all out again when it becomes stable?) [12:47] libben: if you allocate 10GB to /var, for example, but then never use more than 100MB of email, and a couple of megs of logs, you've wasted 9.9ish GB === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] libben, you can just keep upgrading it [12:47] Hi, i just installed the Apache and Apache 2 Web servers on my computer but cannot find them in any of my menus, little help plz? [12:48] but so can we do from this build also? [12:48] nikkia: suddenly a / doesnt seem so wrong =) [12:48] but a 30 gb / seems bit much also [12:48] makes it so much easier [12:48] when thinking of it. [12:49] ... [12:49] its not likely i will install photoshopp cs2 on wine *15 times [12:49] I have 30G / and using half of it [12:49] but KDE and Gnome are installed in /home [12:49] another PARTITION [12:49] woops [12:49] libben, the 'huge monolithic' / approach has some drawbacks, but they're minor, IMO [12:49] and almost all of them are 'failure conditions' where seperate partitions wouldn't really help much [12:49] libben: as i said, seperate mount points was a good idea, in the old days when a unix workstation typically had 5-6 100MB to 500MB scsi drives sat on it :) [12:51] seperate partitions does make system backups easier, if you backup your apps too [12:51] but almost noone bothers doing that anymore [12:51] yeah no one backs up anymore [12:51] chavo, system apps? no [12:51] just reinstall [12:51] exactly [12:51] and the apps change too often to really worry about it too much [12:52] plus people change distros, etc. [12:52] with commercial unixes, it was a bit differentl, because 'reinstalling the apps' meant digging out the tapes for the OS, then the C compiler, then the editors, then the Ada compiler .... [12:52] you were looking at a day or two to reinstall the base OS :) === MikeStyle [n=mike@ip68-6-135-63.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:55] are the coolers of a retail cpu version any good? [12:55] depends [12:55] on ? [12:56] Riddell: where can i get a hold on breezy? and should i install it instead of hooray is it now ? [12:56] there will be no overclocking..but the room where the pc will be is under the roof === kaptaink [n=kaptaink@cust0279.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] i want 686 kernel [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] indeed kaptaink..indeed [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] [12:57] [12:58] [12:58] [12:58] libben: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ it won't be as stable as hoary but it's fine for casual usage [12:58]

mount -t ext3 /dev/mydrive [12:58] i wish people wouldn't copy and paste from 'rich text' editors [12:58] /path/to/mountpoint

[12:58] [12:58] [12:58] sorry!!!!! [12:58] my mistake!!!! [12:58] Riddell: I want to upgrade to breezy this weekend. should I get a daily build or just modify sources.list and dist-upgrade . If so, will dist-upgrade ensure I still have a bootable system? [12:58] i don't even see the point in his copying this stuff.. [12:59] i was try to work out a concise sentence! [12:59] but now all is lost [01:00] gah [01:00] there's a big spider hiding somewhere amid my guitars [01:00] lol [01:00] hussam: either should be fine. with any luck a preview release will be out any minute now [01:01] i mounted a ext3 partition with "mount -t ext3 dev/mydrive path/to/mountpoint but inside some folders i have important files missing [01:01] nikkia: afraid of spiders? [01:01] any help? [01:01] othernoob: it depends on the spider [01:01] Riddell: is there a metapackage that ensure all necessary x components are installed? === loas [n=loas@200141237016.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] hussam: dist-upgrade (I havn't tested a dist-upgrade yet but there's no reason for it not to work) === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] ooh done downloading, time to try it out [01:09] nikkia: hmm [01:09] sorry [01:09] ur nick was in there =) [01:10] i wanna repartition the hd, and i want breezy,... cause i want the newest. but what if i install horay, and waits for breezy, how will the transition be? just synaptic update to kde 3.4.2 and its ok with all my old configs and all that. [01:10] Riddell: dist-upgrade wants to remove some stuff like xlibmesa-gl and xlibmesa-glu ( I'm guessing there aren't needed anymore ?) [01:10] hussam: yes, that's all fine [01:11] libben: transition will be fine [01:11] libben, the upgrade from warty to hoary was fine for me [01:11] Riddell: thank you. [01:11] I installed warty about 6 months ago and updated to hoary when it came out. [01:11] Riddell: well, should i go with breezy right one ? fuck it =) ofcuz i will... i worst case ill do a new install =) [01:12] if you have the breezy disk, you may as well try it out [01:12] soon i will... but i dont have time this nite... gonna get up and work in 6 and half hours .. [01:12] im delivery boy =) [01:13] i drive my car allday in stockholm... so i need some good sleep. [01:13] sounds like fun, [01:13] it is. [01:13] best job ever. === leslie [n=leslie@spc1-warr1-5-0-cust156.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] libben: I recommend breezy [01:15] I drive to fedex every day at Arlanda (airport) and its the best part on every day. i allways drive in 160 km/h to get there.. and sometimes up to 180.... from 8 to 13, ill drive around in the city and a bit outside... and then of to fedex to drive for them... its alot of fun. === Baltodoc [n=BaltoDoc@pool-151-196-234-98.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] free car, and ull allways on new places every day. [01:15] I have a questions regarding konqueror [01:16] Thinking of hoping on to a sysadmin course in linux. but next year or two. i dont need to rush it or stress it. gotta feel the timing is right. [01:16] On one website I keep having a message saying that my cookies arent activated. I have my cookies ON. What is the problem [01:16] ??? [01:17] Riddell: should i download the image friday morning or friday afternoon, if its now is daily builds. [01:17] np [01:17] ops [01:18] NOOO [01:18] i forgot to speed up my dvd drive [01:18] thats why its only going in 2x [01:18] im writing a dvd-image. [01:18] should have hdparm it. [01:18] thou i forgot the command. [01:27] libben: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ [01:27] eek, no, that's ubuntu [01:27] =) [01:27] taught the url was a bit wrong [01:27] wheres the word daily in that url =) [01:27] http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/5.10/ but you'll need to wait for the mirrors to sync [01:28] that's the preview (which is the latest daily) [01:28] libben: for hdpram for your dvd, add this to /etc/hdparm.conf : /dev/dvd { dma = on} [01:30] Riddell: when is it updated ? [01:31] they're syncing now [01:31] so when i go of work in say 18 h its still teh same ill be downloading that theyre syncing now [01:32] http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/ has i386 now [01:32] any chance for a 686 =) === treke [n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] 5.10? [01:35] oh [01:35] preview [01:35] ill download it tomorow... nn, [01:35] i should be nice and mirror off my server [01:36] Riddell: people who dist-upgraded to breezy a couple of months ago had to fix some paths to fonts and stuffin xorg.conf. Is that fixed now? === The_Vox` [n=vox@201.130.66.76] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] hussam: yes, seems to be all fixed [01:37] Riddell: wow, that's great. thanks [01:37] heh, i forgot [01:37] you can upgrade with apt-get === _david [n=david@cpe-69-207-32-168.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _david is now known as eob84 [01:38] I have a question [01:38] I am trying to compile a program and it tells me I need x includes [01:39] eob84: what's the error? [01:40] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] eob84: what program? [01:41] eob84: if you're compiling a KDE program apt-get install kdelibs4-dev should do it [01:42] k [01:42] I'll try that [01:42] i tried to compile nvu [01:42] and i gave up [01:43] wow big update lol [01:43] what is NVU? [01:43] well, i'm trying again [01:43] I am bad with acronyms [01:43] it's like frontpage [01:43] ahh [01:43] yea I wanna compile my own firefox package [01:43] DewDude: i compiled nvu 1.0 it compiled fine [01:43] hussam: maybe you can help me then? [01:44] i think it's mostly i don' have packages installed that it needs [01:44] DewDude: sure [01:44] checking for libIDL-2.0 >= 0.8.0... Package libIDL-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. [01:44] DewDude: first do sudo apt-get build-dep nvu [01:44] i keep getting stuff like that [01:44] ooooh [01:44] no one told me about that [01:45] Riddell hey thanx man that worked great [01:45] DewDude: apt-get apt-get build-dep nvu will install all dependencies needed to build nvu [01:45] unable to find source package [01:46] DewDude: search synaptic for libidl and install its dev package [01:47] yeah, that's what i was doing [01:48] i had to leave for work === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] configure: error: Could not find the following X libraries: -lXt [01:55] has anyone used check install? [01:56] eob84: yes. checkinstall is your best friend [01:56] sure is [01:56] is there a way to get it to make the package [01:56] without trying to install the program? [01:57] yes, "checkinstall --help" or "man checkinstall" will tell you [01:57] it keeps ginving me a permission denied === regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] ok [01:57] Hi, all [01:57] eob84: i have an alias in my .bashrc, would you like to see it ? [01:57] Do I need to have Samba to network a Mac and Kubuntu? [01:58] umm? [01:58] lwells: you have a mac? [01:58] not sure what you mean? [01:58] lwells: no, nfs will do nicely [01:58] Yep, Tiger [01:58] I just converted this laptop to Linux [01:59] it didn't say anything about it in either [01:59] eob84: an alias is a wonderful thing to have (too much use of "alias" will ruin you from others machines [01:59] eob84: let me check checkinstall [02:00] do i need to install nfs? [02:00] eob84: alias build="./configure && make && sudo checkinstall" [02:00] nalioth: i'm like, stuck on trying to make nvu [02:00] I can sudo [02:00] lwells: you should have it by default [02:00] but I don't want it to install to a directory [02:00] eob84: hang on [02:00] I mean [02:00] lol [02:00] I don't want it to do anything to those folders I just want to make the package then install the package === `Nomad [n=Bob@stjhnbsu67w-142167000045.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === nikkia was just browsing jobs, as you do... [02:01] and found one that is for a company in the food industry... === ORiON [n=orion@cpe-70-117-2-253.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:03] what do i need to do to connect to the network with nfs??, i am such a newbie [02:03] nikkia finish... I need closure! [02:03] '... is a pet friendly workplace, we actively support and encourage employees bringing their pets to the workplace' [02:04] DewDude: do apt-get build-dep firefox ( it seems to have the same build dependencies are NVU and thunderbird ) [02:04] hmm, pets, snack foods, yes, great combination! [02:04] eob84: i dont know how to keep it from installing, to be honest [02:04] eob84: what's to finish? [02:04] eob84: it just seems a totally bizarre concept to run a company that makes snack foods, yet allows/encourages employees to bring pets to work [02:04] ahhhh [02:04] lwells: see the wiki.ubuntu.com for the nfs howto [02:04] DewDude: sorry apt-get build-dep mozilla-firefox === Pyf [n=meep@cpc3-basf3-6-1-cust55.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] thanks [02:06] DewDude: how bout build-dep nvu? [02:06] i just tried to change from ubuntu to kubuntu by "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", it installed everything, so i rebooted, and then it came up wite a login screen, so i logged in and then gnome-panels all loaded.... what did i do wrong? [02:06] no source package [02:06] Pyf: log out and log back in, and when you enter your name, look for the sessions word. click on it [02:07] Pyf: on bottom left corner, click whatever that icon is, and select session type [02:07] nalioth I just did the root thing... if you use the package option it installs from the package [02:07] ahh kk [02:07] thx [02:07] eob84: ya lost me on that one === kkathman [n=kkathman@h-66-167-143-99.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] nalioth lol I am scatterd right now [02:08] nalioth I got it to work thanks for your help [02:08] that is all I meant [02:08] lol [02:08] eob84: if you learn about aliases it will keep you from typing so much [02:08] I don't like that actually [02:09] I like to use the flags to set the package name [02:09] you guys, if you compile a lot, an alias to compile from a - z is very pleasant [02:09] I know [02:09] eob84: aye, i just roll em with presets [02:09] nalioth: alias? [02:09] nikkia surely you know about aliases [02:09] weee..it's compiling [02:09] go little g3..go [02:09] nalioth: yes, of course [02:09] after I compile enough... I'll give in [02:10] nalioth: i'm just a little puzzled why you'd use them to 'compile a lot' [02:10] nikkia: i compile most of the stuff i use === _sam [n=sam@cpc3-basf3-6-1-cust55.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] nikkia: this is my alias for that (yes missing trailing ")alias build="./configure && make && sudo "checkinstall [02:11] <_sam> got it working now, thx guys === _sam is now known as Pyf [02:12] nalioth: i compile everything i use, still don't see a need [02:13] nikkia: i like to cd into my source dir and just type "build" instead of all the above === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === |nikki| [n=nikki@host-87-74-30-24.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] <|nikki|> lousy tunnel broker went down === _david [n=david@cpe-69-207-32-168.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _david is now known as eob84 [02:16] does anyone knoe where kde wigets are installed? === chavo [n=breezy@240.sub-70-212-48.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === blackflag [n=stef@p54ABDD16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] <`Nomad> Hi all, just a shot in the dark but does anyone here have experience with installing Drupal on Kubuntu? [02:19] eob84: /usr/lib/kde3 === blackflag [n=stef@p54ABDD16.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [02:21] really? [02:21] I installed style clock there and it didn't work [02:24] eob84: you mean superkaramba widgets? [02:25] I guess [02:25] eob84: look in ~/.superkaramba [02:25] I am trying to install something so it shows up on the toolbar [02:25] I guess a plugin of sorts [02:26] I just removed the clock panel, and tried to put it back on, when i did though i cant get it to look the same as it did before [02:26] how do i do that? [02:26] it is under format I thing [02:26]