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| ivoks | Lathiat: ping | 12:06 |
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| Lathiat | ivoks: pong | 12:06 |
| ivoks | nm works for you? | 12:06 |
| ivoks | i get errors | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | such as? | 12:06 |
| ivoks | Sep 8 23:56:20 localhost NetworkManager: <ERROR>^I[1126216580.767853] (): couldn't initialize nameserver: Failed to execute child process "no" (No such file or directory) | 12:07 |
| Lathiat | nuqneh:~> cat /etc/apt/sources.list|grep Net | 12:07 |
| Lathiat | # NetworkManager | 12:07 |
| Lathiat | deb http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy ./ | 12:07 |
| ivoks | ah... | 12:07 |
| Burgundavia | ivoks, did you upgrade from the universe to the one from j^? | 12:07 |
| ivoks | universe :) | 12:07 |
| Burgundavia | ivoks, as that upgrade will break nameresolution | 12:07 |
| ivoks | does it use bind? | 12:08 |
| ivoks | it's hard to type while in bed :) | 12:08 |
| Lathiat | yes | 12:09 |
| ivoks | i see | 12:10 |
| ivoks | Lathiat: any luck with colony4? | 12:11 |
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| Unfrgiven | morning all | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | morning Unfrgiven | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | how's life over the ditch? | 01:08 |
| === Lathiat discovers dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig | ||
| Lathiat | which does the job | 01:08 |
| Lathiat | that can go into avahi | 01:08 |
| Lathiat | and i need to tell pitti, mvo, daniels about that | 01:08 |
| Lathiat | also dhcpbdb sucks | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | rock | 01:09 |
| Lathiat | it installs an allow all config for the system dbus | 01:09 |
| Lathiat | e.g. anything can own anything | 01:09 |
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| ajmitch | Lathiat: so I need to restart avahi-daemon now? | 01:09 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: to do what? | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | to run avahi-discover | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | why would you? | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | well.. | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | File "dbus_bindings.pyx", line 379, in dbus_bindings.Connection.send_with_reply_and_block | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | dbus_bindings.DBusException: The name org.freedesktop.Avahi was not provided by any .service files | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | well that means your daemon is dead | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | after running your dbus crack | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | oh | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | it kicked it off the bus? | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | it may ahve crashed | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | 0.2 had a bug | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | where i fyou have no interfaces up | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 01:10 |
| Lathiat | and dhcp on the interface | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | it crashes | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | interfaces are up | 01:11 |
| === ajmitch is doing this via ssh | ||
| Lathiat | so i just run that | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | it doesnt kill the daemon | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | ok, it's all working now | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | so i dunno why yours did | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | this was on a fresh install | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | oh | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | right | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | looks like my flatmate is still home | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | so yeh | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | youd need to start it | 01:11 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: hehe | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | reflector is still working well then | 01:12 |
| ajmitch | since it sees both wireless & wired | 01:12 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: this side of the ditch is good :) | 01:13 |
| Unfrgiven | my laptop arrived yesterday! its a dell XPS-2 :D | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | great | 01:14 |
| Lathiat | specs? | 01:14 |
| === ajmitch does feel very jealous now :) | ||
| Unfrgiven | Pentium M 2.13GHz, 512 MB DDR2 RAM, 256 MB Geforce Go 6800 Ultra, 80 GB hdd | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 01:15 |
| Unfrgiven | its the highest end dell model available! | 01:16 |
| tseng | Unfrgiven: oh man | 01:16 |
| Unfrgiven | i was shocked | 01:16 |
| Unfrgiven | and its got a 17 inch screen. 1900x1200 native! | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | haha | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | nice | 01:16 |
| === ajmitch thinks of his 1024x768 | ||
| Lathiat | i already got a big laptop so im glad i got something smaller | 01:17 |
| Unfrgiven | www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspn_xps2 | 01:17 |
| Lathiat | thatd make a killer desktop replacement | 01:17 |
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| Unfrgiven | yeah my current laptop is an inspiron 5150 which has a 3.2Ghz P4... so i was hoping for something smaller, but i definately aint complaining :) | 01:21 |
| Unfrgiven | the XPS gets higher benchmarks than my p4-3.0Ghz 2GB RAM, 256MB X800 Pro desktop! | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | dude, don't need to rub it in :P | 01:22 |
| Lathiat | haha | 01:22 |
| Unfrgiven | sorry, wasnt intentional | 01:22 |
| === Lathiat isnt fussed | ||
| Unfrgiven | anyways, i should get back to work. i'll talk to you guys soon. | 01:28 |
| bmonty | yeah, but how much does the XPS weigh? | 01:29 |
| Lathiat | approximately "1 metric fuckload" ? | 01:30 |
| bmonty | exactly | 01:30 |
| hub_ | can someone enlighten me on the last comment at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=472 | 01:34 |
| hub_ | 'cause it is a Mono binary | 01:34 |
| tseng | alot of mono packages come with arch-specific glue libs | 01:35 |
| tseng | if you have only dll/exe, its arch any | 01:35 |
| hub_ | it is dll/exe | 01:36 |
| tseng | and he tells you you should change Build-Depends to Build-Depends-Indep in this case | 01:36 |
| hub_ | ah ok | 01:36 |
| hub_ | makes more sense | 01:36 |
| hub_ | sorry | 01:37 |
| hub_ | I'll update hugin first | 01:37 |
| hub_ | tseng: but arch any make a package i386 when build | 01:44 |
| hub_ | tseng: this could run on PowerPC verbatim | 01:45 |
| tseng | we mean "all" then I guess | 01:45 |
| tseng | i get them mixed up, since they seem to mean the same thing in english | 01:45 |
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| hub_ | they don't | 01:47 |
| hub_ | any and all is not the same | 01:47 |
| tseng | i know | 01:47 |
| tseng | "i get them mixed up" | 01:47 |
| hub_ | ok make sense | 01:48 |
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| \sh | grmpf | 02:21 |
| Nafallo | \sh: morning :-) | 02:21 |
| \sh | Nafallo: yes..good morning...:( | 02:21 |
| \sh | I just came back from office... | 02:21 |
| \sh | I think I have to write a book: My Last Tax Adventure | 02:21 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 02:22 |
| \sh | at least I know now, that I can download commercial tax software :( | 02:23 |
| ogra | \sh, err... arent you supposed to be on holiday ? | 02:23 |
| \sh | ogra: I don't have a printer and I had to print out the tax documents | 02:23 |
| ogra | gah | 02:23 |
| \sh | never use "ElsterFormular" for Income Tax Stuff it doesn't work | 02:24 |
| \sh | I tried 3 hours of getting it to say "Yes, the date 01.01.2004 - 30.04.2004 is a correct date" | 02:24 |
| ogra | there is another project for linux ... approved by the ta office | 02:25 |
| ogra | tax even | 02:25 |
| \sh | after these 3 hours I was just p*ssed and downloaded buhl t@x software... | 02:25 |
| ogra | its elster compatible | 02:25 |
| \sh | yeah..buhl data | 02:25 |
| \sh | but I downloaded the first time (and paid) the wrong software...t@x 2004 means: Income Tax Program for the Year 2003 :( | 02:25 |
| ogra | a free project | 02:26 |
| \sh | ah you mean this webbased stuff? | 02:26 |
| ogra | nope... its tcl or something... form a uni | 02:26 |
| ogra | i'd have to look it up in a big stack of linux magazines... | 02:26 |
| \sh | ummm....name it, I use it...I paid this evening 30 euros for 2 bloody programs | 02:26 |
| ogra | dunno in which one it was mentioned | 02:27 |
| \sh | anyways...I just send my tax stuff to the tax department, printed the stuff via freepdfXP on this portege r200, transfered the pdf files to our company network and printed out there | 02:27 |
| \sh | and now it's just 2:30 GMT+2 and I have to go early this morning to Siegburg to deliver my tax documents *argh* | 02:28 |
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| bddebian | Hey folks | 02:36 |
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| \sh | ok...going to bed now...i have to get up early...cu tomorrow | 02:52 |
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| ajmitch | good to see pitti fixing pgadmin3 | 03:16 |
| Nafallo | indeed :-) | 03:18 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: He is? | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yes, removing frmo unmet deps on wiki now | 03:19 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Nice. pgaccess too? | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | haven't seen that on -changes | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Damn I need my upload rights.. :-( | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: complain to Nafallo or someone | 03:21 |
| ajmitch | or I can do stuff in ~4 hours | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | what now? ;-) | 03:22 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: bddebian wants you to upload crap again | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Damn man, you make it sound like that is a bad thing..:'-( | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | lol | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: where is the debdiffs? | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: MOTUGLUTransitions | 03:23 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: If you could look over the one I did for pefs pointless and the one I am about to post for drscheme, I would greatly appreciate too | 03:23 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Were you looking at poker3d? | 03:28 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: read pointless, seems you rock! :-) | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: no | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: I read anyway | 03:28 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: OK, I thought I you had said that,sorry | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | no matter whose debdiff :) | 03:29 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: ?? | 03:29 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: huh? ofcourse. I verify that bddebian rocks! couldn't have done it without reading ;-) | 03:30 |
| bddebian | Hmm, actually I think someone (ajmitch?) already finished off gl-117, kmatplot, and lightspeed?? | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: no, not me | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | you could check the sig on breezy changes to see | 03:30 |
| slomo | bddebian: dholbach | 03:30 |
| bddebian | Ohh, rockin' | 03:30 |
| bddebian | Heya slomo | 03:31 |
| bddebian | slomo: Have you ever gotten your upload rights? | 03:31 |
| slomo | bddebian: i don't know ;) nobody told me anything so i think the answer is no... i will probably get them together with you :) | 03:31 |
| bddebian | slomo: Well I may never get them. I annoy elmo about as much as I annoy tseng :-) | 03:32 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: you _don't_ rock! | 03:32 |
| bddebian | Uh oh | 03:32 |
| bddebian | :-( | 03:32 |
| bddebian | What'd I do? | 03:33 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: I need a pastebin, hold on ;-) | 03:33 |
| slomo | bddebian: i annoy elmo too ;) | 03:33 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2024 | 03:33 |
| bddebian | I wasn't sure if all that config.* crap even needed to be there | 03:34 |
| bddebian | slomo: Did he ever sync your childsplay? | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | yes, childsplay is in | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | ouch, that's one messy rejection | 03:35 |
| bddebian | One reason I prefer just diff over debdiff at times :-) | 03:35 |
| slomo | bddebian: childsplay? | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: debdiff is what works | 03:36 |
| bddebian | slomo: Isn't that what you wanted elmo to sync or am I on crack again? | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: if you break it, then it's a bigger problem | 03:36 |
| slomo | bddebian: nope... i want ffmpeg and some other stuff in multiverse and some other binary packages deleted ;) | 03:37 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Break what? | 03:37 |
| bddebian | slomo: Oh sorry. | 03:37 |
| slomo | bddebian: np :) | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you break the world | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | and everyone cries | 03:38 |
| slomo | ajmitch? | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Nah I just break the Universe!! ;-P | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Want me to fix that debdiff? | 03:40 |
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| bddebian | Hello LaserJock, how's it coming? | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | well, I have some questions about ghemical | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | I worked through dependecies and such today at work and found that ghemical depends on libghemical | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | now, libghemical is in Debian unstable along with the version of ghemical that has the unmet dep | 03:43 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: and? | 03:43 |
| LaserJock | so basically, if we took the .debs from Debian unstable I think everything would be fine | 03:43 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Have you tried to build the Debian unstable version? | 03:44 |
| Lathiat | the problem is that the current version is failing to build | 03:44 |
| Lathiat | (last version that built is 1.1) | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | we have 1.5 in source | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | well, that's the thing. I think that they are missing a dep and really we need to bump the version of ghemical up | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | and its failign to build be of libghemical-dev | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | we need 1.9 to get gtk2 | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: ooh | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: thatd be cool | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | .. | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | where the hell does libghemical come from | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | or is that a package we need to sync | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | thats new | 03:45 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: I won't touch it before you tell me you've done that ;-) | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Can I just hack out that garbage or did I actually do something wrong? | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Can you look at the drscheme one in the mean time? | 03:46 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: only 1.5 is in debian | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | well, I found that to get ghemical 1.9 (or 1.5) we need libghemical. and to get libghemical we need mopac7 (in Debian unstable), mpqc (in ubuntu), and libopenbabel(also in ubuntu) | 03:47 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: no idea :-). I just saw alot of patches failing :-P | 03:47 |
| Lathiat | ok i see | 03:47 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: so yes, we wneed to sync libghemical | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | in other words, if we just want ghemical 1.5 we just need to get libghemical from Debian unstable | 03:48 |
| Lathiat | rigt | 03:48 |
| Lathiat | so we just need to ask elmo | 03:48 |
| Lathiat | i can do that if you like | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | but, the libghemical in Debian I think has a fatal flaw because it doesn't use MOPAC7 wich is pretty neccesary for it to be useful | 03:48 |
| Lathiat | oh? | 03:49 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: does it just need a build-dep or what | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | well, it is a flag in the compilation that they haven't set | 03:50 |
| Lathiat | how much functionality does this remove? | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | a lot | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | basically, I wouldn't use it if it didn't have it | 03:50 |
| Lathiat | i used to use this program | 03:50 |
| Lathiat | it was rather nifty | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | mopac7 is the molecular mechanics part. mpqc is the quantum mechanical part | 03:51 |
| Lathiat | ah | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | without mopact you could look at your molecules, but you couldn't do much with them | 03:51 |
| Lathiat | right | 03:51 |
| Lathiat | what package is that in? | 03:52 |
| Lathiat | libopenbabel? | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | the thing is, mopac7 is in Debian unstable so I don't know why they didn't use it | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | it is just mopac7 | 03:52 |
| Lathiat | ooh i see | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | the old ghemical had it built in I think | 03:52 |
| Lathiat | well | 03:53 |
| Lathiat | i'll try get them | 03:53 |
| Lathiat | and build them | 03:53 |
| Lathiat | and see what happens | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | ah, azeem is the ghemical maintainer | 03:54 |
| ajmitch | interesting | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm building them currently with pbuilder | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | I am just trying to get the hang of this packaging thing :-) | 03:55 |
| Lathiat | hehe | 03:55 |
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| Lathiat | pbuildering will b ea little fun | 03:55 |
| Lathiat | cus you have to stuck in the new mopac7 packages | 03:55 |
| Lathiat | i have no idea how to do that | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | me neither | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | looks like the maintainer of ghemical is gone for the night | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | otherwise you could ask him about it | 03:56 |
| jsgotangco | hi all | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | what about bumping the version up to 0.9? The problem is that it is not in Debian. | 03:56 |
| Lathiat | what isnt in debian? | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | 0.9 | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | of ghemical | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | 0.9 of whwat | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | oh | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | is it needed? | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | 1.9 i assume you mean | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: so file a bug in debian | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | well, it is gtk2 instead of gtk1 | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | well, thats not -needed- | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: probably best to have a achat to the maintainer | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | ask why mopac isnt used | 03:57 |
| Lathiat | and why 1.9 isnt there | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | yeah, ok | 03:58 |
| bddebian | How the hell do you troubleshoot patching problems?? :-( | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you don't, you fix them ;) | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | bddebian: haha | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | well, mopac7 from debian unstable built in pbuilder and installed ok, I think | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | bdwhats the problem | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: yeh here too | 04:00 |
| === Lathiat now builds libghemical | ||
| bddebian | Lathiat: Just fuzz/fail stuff but it makes no sense | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | bddebian: patch probably isnt in the right patch level? | 04:01 |
| Lathiat | and if theres like files with the same name it will get confused | 04:01 |
| Lathiat | patches need to be from the root of the tree | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Everything succeeded but the debian/rules portion | 04:01 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Well how do I "fix" them then??? | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: depends on what's wrong | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | I usually just look over it by eye | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | sometimes it's tab/space mixups | 04:08 |
| bddebian | I am and it looks correct | 04:08 |
| bddebian | Ohhh, a tab maybe.. Hmm | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | Lathiat: so should I email the Debian maintainer, Michael Banck? | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: yes, could be best to file a wishlist bug | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | in debian | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | well, I got libghemical built and installed | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | is there a way with pbuilder to build a package when one of the dependencies is something that is not in the repos? | 04:15 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: OK, I fixed the tab/space issue but same errors :-( | 04:16 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: best way is to put them in a local repository yourself, and reference that repository from within pbuilder | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | which take a bit of tweaking | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, so would it be easier to do it without pbuilder? | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | maybe | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Ah-ha | 04:21 |
| bddebian | Is succeeded with FUZZ X OK? | 04:21 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Still here? | 04:26 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: yepp :-( | 04:28 |
| Nafallo | s/:-(/:-)/ | 04:28 |
| bddebian | :-) | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Would you mind trying pointless again? | 04:28 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: nope :-) | 04:28 |
| bddebian | You are a man of many words ;-) | 04:29 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: debdiff on the same place? :-) | 04:29 |
| bddebian | Aye | 04:29 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: it's just that it's feels pointless ;-) | 04:29 |
| bddebian | lol | 04:30 |
| Nafallo | hehe, only fuzz on debian/rules now :-P | 04:30 |
| === Nafallo kicks pdebuild | ||
| Nafallo | dpkg-buildpackage: source package is pointless | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.5-5ubuntu3 | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Barry deFreese <bddebian@comcast.net> | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | debian/rules:36: *** missing separator. Stop. | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | lol! | 04:33 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | yay | 04:33 |
| slomo | probably spaces instead of tab or somethin similar ;) | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | as said before | 04:34 |
| bddebian | Bah fuxx0r | 04:34 |
| === Nafallo kicks of again ;-) | ||
| Nafallo | patching file src/primitive.h | 04:38 |
| Nafallo | Hunk #1 FAILED at 106. | 04:38 |
| Nafallo | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/primitive.h.rej | 04:38 |
| Nafallo | make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1 | 04:38 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: could you run it through a pbuilder next time please? :-P | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | I guess the clean target doesn't properly unpatch | 04:38 |
| === Nafallo finds pointless pointless till barry runned it through his own pbuilder ;-) | ||
| === ajmitch waits for the preview installer to download | ||
| bddebian | This frickin' sucks | 04:44 |
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| bddebian | Nafallo: Did you happen to try the drscheme debdiff? | 04:58 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2026 | 05:01 |
| slomo | bddebian: are you testing your stuff in pbuilder? | 05:02 |
| bddebian | fuck | 05:02 |
| === ajmitch always uses pbuilder on the .dsc created | ||
| === Nafallo usually does pdebuild and debsign | ||
| Nafallo | I don't care to sign unbuildable stuff :-P | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | pdebuild makes the tree dirty | 05:06 |
| === ajmitch does debuild -S first, then uses that .dsc | ||
| Nafallo | what's the diffrence? | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | pbuilder build builds out of tree | 05:07 |
| ajmitch | unpacks it in the location specified by your config | 05:07 |
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| bddebian | This is utter bullshit | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: but so much fun | 05:09 |
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| khermans | how can i submit our package into the repos? | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | what package? | 05:11 |
| khermans | nzbget | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | the general procedure is to put it up for review | 05:11 |
| khermans | on sourceforge | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | and we give you feedback, get things fixed, and once it's ready, it can be imported | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | "As of 2004-10-08 10:20, this project is no longer under active development. " | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | that doesn't look promising at all | 05:12 |
| bddebian | can some PLEASE help me fix this soI understand wtf is going on?? | 05:13 |
| khermans | ajmitch, hehe | 05:13 |
| khermans | ajmitch, actually that was set by the old maintainer | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | ok, so it's being worked on again? | 05:13 |
| khermans | ajmitch, yes, we just release new versions recently | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | yeah, good | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | so is there a package built for it? | 05:14 |
| khermans | 0.2.3 sept 5, 2005 | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | a debian package, that is | 05:14 |
| khermans | ajmitch, i have not built a deb, dont know how you guys run that process | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | I see tarballs there | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | ok | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | either you could learn it, or put up some details on wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates to ask for people to package it :) | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | however that list is fairly long | 05:15 |
| khermans | ajmitch, learn it? you mean actually writing the deb file by hand? | 05:15 |
| khermans | ajmitch, isnt there a util to package it up? | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | there are ways to help you get started | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | but you still need to tailor it to your package | 05:16 |
| khermans | ajmitch, is there an online HOWTO or something | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | eg https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingTips | 05:17 |
| khermans | ajmitch, how long from submitting it for review to getting it in there officially? | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | Debian New Maintainer's guide is a start | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | khermans: depends on how much work it needs | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | it may not get in for breezy, depending on how busy we are, too | 05:17 |
| khermans | ajmitch, thx for info -- will investigate and come back later dude :-) | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | ok | 05:18 |
| bddebian | OK, who do I have to beg, what do I have to do??? :'-( | 05:19 |
| slomo | bddebian: me tomorrow when no one else wanted to until then ;) | 05:20 |
| slomo | gn8 everybody :) | 05:20 |
| Nafallo | slomo: night | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Gnight slomo | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I'm free in maybe 2 hours to sit down & help out | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | but I guess you'll be gone by then | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Probably :-( | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | debian BSP coming up this weekend | 05:26 |
| ajmitch | so we might be able to merge a few fixes | 05:26 |
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| ajmitch | yay, might get pam 0.79 in unstable soon, it's the other main part i want for selinux | 05:30 |
| ajmitch | hello rob^ | 05:30 |
| rob^ | hi ajmitch | 05:31 |
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| bddebian | OK I think I almost have it. What is malformed patch at line 80 mean? | 05:57 |
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| bddebian | Bah, I give up for the night. Gnight folks. | 06:29 |
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| wickedpuppy | hi guys does anyone knows how is /lib/modules/<kernel> is generated ? by what program ? | 09:02 |
| === robitaille has been wondering about these /lib/modules/...errors on the console in breezy | ||
| tritium | robitaille, video/console modules? | 09:04 |
| robitaille | yes | 09:05 |
| wickedpuppy | eh then you know how are those generated ? i am making initrd and in my kernel module fs , there is no ext3 | 09:05 |
| wickedpuppy | does that mean my kernel won't support ext3 ? | 09:06 |
| tritium | wickedpuppy, dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r), and you'll see that the modules are in that package | 09:06 |
| wickedpuppy | eh no .. i downloaded kernel source from kernel.org and using genkernel to make kernel + initrd | 09:06 |
| tritium | you're not happy with ubuntu kernel images or kernel source? | 09:07 |
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| wickedpuppy | nope my work requires me to build a live cd with specific kernel | 09:07 |
| tritium | ok | 09:07 |
| wickedpuppy | thats why | 09:07 |
| wickedpuppy | if not use /vmlinuz | 09:08 |
| tritium | bed time | 09:08 |
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| siretart | morning folks | 09:19 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I'm now off for a week, holidays. | 09:19 |
| siretart | ajmitch: can you please ask elmo about syncing darcs from unstable? I verified it builds in breezy | 09:20 |
| siretart | thank you, and have a great week, folks! | 09:20 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:27 |
| robitaille | hi dholbach | 09:27 |
| dholbach | hey robitaille :) | 09:29 |
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| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 09:48 |
| dholbach | hey andrew | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 09:49 |
| dholbach | i'm fine, thanks :) | 09:49 |
| dholbach | how are you? :) | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | almost alive | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | but it's friday night here | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | so I'm allowed to sleep soon ;) | 09:50 |
| dholbach | hehe | 09:51 |
| ajmitch | what have you been up to this week? | 09:52 |
| dholbach | i uploaded the new gnome with seb, reviewed a couple of packages, did some bits of bug triage | 09:53 |
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| ajmitch | great | 09:55 |
| === ajmitch tries to think if he did any ubuntu stuff.. | ||
| === jsgotangco thinks as well | ||
| ajmitch | well I know I made a few uploads | 09:56 |
| ajmitch | & bug closing | 09:56 |
| dholbach | you absolutely did | 09:56 |
| ajmitch | & debian uploads | 09:56 |
| ajmitch | & unfinished meeting minutes :) | 09:57 |
| jsgotangco | i just bummed around | 10:01 |
| torkel | Mithrandir: ping? | 10:34 |
| Mithrandir | pong | 10:35 |
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| torkel | Mithrandir: is there any ia32-lib universe package? | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | sigh, I got the rejection email already | 11:21 |
| Mithrandir | torkel: there's ia32-libs in main | 11:22 |
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| torkel | Mithrandir: I need to run a HP 32-bit only binary (cli for Smart Array) on an AMD64, that depends on libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 which comes from universe :-( | 11:23 |
| Mithrandir | torkel: you could just download the i386 deb and unpack that in the right place | 11:24 |
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| torkel | Mithrandir: yeah. Guess I'm just lazy :-) | 11:24 |
| Mithrandir | torkel: I really don't want to create more ia32-libs-style packages; they're hideous | 11:25 |
| torkel | Mithrandir: yeah | 11:26 |
| torkel | just thought I should ask :-) | 11:27 |
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| ajmitch | hi koke | 11:37 |
| koke | hi all! :) | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 11:37 |
| dholbach | hey koke | 11:38 |
| dholbach | how's it going? | 11:38 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | dholbach! :) | 11:38 |
| koke | well, playing with rubyonrails :) | 11:41 |
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| \sh | moins | 12:35 |
| dholbach | hey \sh | 12:36 |
| \sh | just eating sth...coming back from tax department :( | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting-2005-09-07 | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | please fix up & add in comments before I send it out :) | 12:38 |
| \sh | go from me very good | 12:39 |
| Lathiat | there was a meeting 2 days ago? | 12:41 |
| Lathiat | bah | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: yes.. | 12:41 |
| \sh | wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar ;) | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: well it was at 6am your time, again ;) | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | so you probably would have still been up | 12:41 |
| Lathiat | you mean 4am | 12:41 |
| Lathiat | thing is, i proabably was up ;p | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | 22:00UTC? | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | ok, updated with names of people who were present | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | (judging solely by names of people who spoke up at least once) ;) | 12:48 |
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| === ajmitch updates the calendar for the bug love day | ||
| ajmitch | any volunteers to send out the mail & organise this bug day in a week? | 12:54 |
| \sh | bddebian volunteered, right? | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | not that I saw | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | I'll ask him when I see him | 12:55 |
| \sh | i don't recall this issue | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | no, but we need to get onto it in the next couple of days :) | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | I can write up an email, I guess | 12:56 |
| \sh | ok...yeah..we will ;) | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu-users & ubuntu-devel, who else needs to hear? | 12:57 |
| \sh | kubuntu-devel? | 12:57 |
| === ajmitch hopes the main guys don't get annoyed by a flood of new bugs | ||
| \sh | hehe | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | but I think the community running a bug day should be reasonable | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | there's a debian one this weekend | 12:58 |
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| \sh | ogra: ping is it ok with tomorrow? :) | 12:59 |
| ogra | \sh, sure :) | 01:00 |
| \sh | cool | 01:00 |
| HiddenWolf | bug day, nice. :) | 01:03 |
| HiddenWolf | But rather have people go through the list of NEED INFO bugs, so they can actually get fixed for a change? | 01:04 |
| HiddenWolf | People report bugs, but register with email accounts they don't check, spamfilter eats bugzilla mails, so a lot of bugs stay open indefinatly waiting for some useful information. | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | HiddenWolf: we'll mainly focus on universe | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | since we're MOTUs | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | but we'll do what we can | 01:05 |
| HiddenWolf | Expand it. :) | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | HiddenWolf: sure, get us 10x more people with twice as much time | 01:06 |
| HiddenWolf | the same goes for malone btw. Now the number of bugs is managable. | 01:06 |
| HiddenWolf | debug the bugs. :) | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | we're still stretched fairly thin here :) | 01:06 |
| HiddenWolf | I know. I'd be happy to help, if I can get the time. | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | #ubuntu-bugs, 17th Sept | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | details will follow in a mail in the next day or two :) | 01:09 |
| HiddenWolf | Ugh, I've got a party and a dentists appointment on the 16th. I guess I'll be busted. :) | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | HiddenWolf: you'll be fine ;) | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | we'll still have plenty of work in the days following | 01:11 |
| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, I'm not a programmer just yet, trying to be tho. ;) | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | you don't need to be a programmer to follow up on bugs | 01:12 |
| HiddenWolf | I know, I'm browsing bugzilla now. | 01:12 |
| HiddenWolf | filing and following up on random people's bugs. | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | ok | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | good to hear :) | 01:17 |
| HiddenWolf | Well yeah, there are bugs open that everyone has noticed, but still up as NEED INFO. That's just dumb. | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | NEEDINFO in order to solve | 01:21 |
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| HiddenWolf | We'd have ntp timing out on all pc's with a bit of latency due to the original reporter not following up with the requested information, for example. | 01:21 |
| === \sh needs something to decrease the blood pressure.. | ||
| === ajmitch needs a drink | ||
| slomo | godd morning ;) | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | hi slomo | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 01:27 |
| slomo | extremly tired :/ i better get back to bed later ;) | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | stayed up too late last night? | 01:30 |
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| slomo | yes... 5:XY and i'm awake since 10:00 because of some people working to loud in the neighborhood :/ | 01:31 |
| slomo | btw... what happened to breezy-changes? almost nothing the laster hours... | 01:32 |
| HiddenWolf | slomo, preview freeze, bugfix modes. :) | 01:33 |
| slomo | oh... no, broken fetchmail :) there were some changes ;) | 01:34 |
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| ajmitch | party on in flat next door, I won't be getting any sleep for awhile | 01:36 |
| \sh | ajmitch: me needs a drink as well.. | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | yeah, for different reason :) | 01:38 |
| HiddenWolf | can anyone here give me a rundown on how to get a decent backtrace? | 01:39 |
| jbailey | HiddenWolf: The trick is often to get it to die before it dies. | 01:47 |
| jbailey | backtraces in gdb often have the problem that they're trying to get the information *after* the stack has already been corrupted. | 01:48 |
| jbailey | use 'break' to set the breakpoint at some time when you know it works, then get it closer and closer to the mark that you want, and step/next until you get to the failure point and can see what's happening. | 01:49 |
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| pef | hello ! | 02:20 |
| Nafallo | morning pef. | 02:20 |
| pef | Nafallo: thanks for uploading my debdiffs :) | 02:20 |
| Nafallo | pef: no problem :-). but poker3d didn't build here. | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | hi pef, Nafallo | 02:21 |
| Nafallo | morning ajmitch :-) | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | so what should I work on now? | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | since I won't be getting any sleep | 02:22 |
| pef | ajmitch: hello :) | 02:22 |
| pef | Nafallo: within pbuilder ? | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | pef: yes, something about bad libX something. I could run it again ;-) | 02:23 |
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| ajmitch | hi ivoks | 02:24 |
| ivoks | colony4 doesn't boot on one 30 computers! | 02:24 |
| ivoks | on 30, not one :) | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | tried preview? | 02:24 |
| ivoks | no | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | what doesn't work? | 02:25 |
| ivoks | it detects disks and stops | 02:25 |
| ivoks | kernel freezes | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | hm | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | nasty | 02:25 |
| ivoks | sata disks | 02:25 |
| ivoks | but, netboot works | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | test preview, file bugs :) | 02:25 |
| ivoks | with netboot i have another problem - doesn't support yukon ethernet :) | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | I think there was stuff fixed about that before preview | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | aha | 02:25 |
| ivoks | where is preview? | 02:26 |
| slomo | jbailey: ping | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | releases.ubuntu.com, iirc | 02:26 |
| jbailey | slomo: pong | 02:27 |
| ajmitch | jeff! :) | 02:27 |
| jbailey | andrew! | 02:27 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: CC.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ | 02:27 |
| ivoks | ok | 02:27 |
| ivoks | Nafallo is that http? | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: yes | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: and CC = CountryCode :-) | 02:28 |
| ivoks | lol | 02:28 |
| slomo | jbailey: i can't plug a serial cable into the ibook... it has no serial interface ;) but are you sure the drivers are not built into the kernel? the first message about a ramdisk is in the line over the panic where it says incomplete write (or when that is fixed) found ramdisk at block 0 or something similar | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | \sh: ping | 02:28 |
| \sh | Nafallo: pong | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | \sh: got any changes for gajim? | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | \sh: I'm planning to add sv.po ;-) | 02:29 |
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| \sh | Nafallo: no :( | 02:31 |
| \sh | Nafallo: do it ;) | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | pef: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2041 | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | \sh: :-) | 02:31 |
| pef | Nafallo: thanks ! | 02:32 |
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| pef | Nafallo: works for me and builds into pbuilder, strange :] | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | pef: hmm :-/ | 02:35 |
| ivoks | Nafallo there is no hr.releases :) and no uk.releases | 02:36 |
| ivoks | i'm using jigdo now :/ | 02:36 |
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| ivoks | i'm afraid this is useless... i'm sure installation kernel doesn't support yukon ethernet... | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: well, uk is releases.ubuntu.com. I thought you knew the datacenter was UK? :-) | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: se. has 2.4Gbit/s IIRC ;-) | 02:39 |
| ivoks | Nafallo hm... then it's too slow... | 02:39 |
| ivoks | thanks | 02:39 |
| \sh | ivoks: what about yukon? | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | np :-) | 02:40 |
| \sh | ivoks: marvel yukon sk98lin driver are not in the kernel, will never be...they're rewriting the stuff and skge runs only with some yukons | 02:40 |
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| ivoks | eh.. | 02:41 |
| ivoks | :( | 02:42 |
| ivoks | i have yukon cards here | 02:42 |
| ivoks | and wanted to do kickstart install | 02:42 |
| ivoks | without CD | 02:42 |
| \sh | ivoks: so u have to tweak your initrd just like me for the r200 | 02:42 |
| ivoks | damn... | 02:42 |
| ivoks | \sh could you guide me on that? | 02:42 |
| ivoks | i know how to do it | 02:42 |
| ivoks | but every time i get kernel panic :) | 02:42 |
| \sh | ivoks: you compile the upstream sk98lin drivers as patch into your kernel | 02:43 |
| \sh | 2.6.12 it is | 02:43 |
| ivoks | i even compiled kernel with yukon driver | 02:43 |
| ivoks | ok, did that | 02:43 |
| \sh | with the orig yukon driver in the kernel? skge doesn't work ;) u need the drivers from syskonnect | 02:44 |
| ivoks | it works with this driver | 02:44 |
| \sh | ok.... | 02:44 |
| ivoks | i had linux on this machines before | 02:44 |
| \sh | then... | 02:44 |
| \sh | do it as module ;) | 02:44 |
| ivoks | ok | 02:44 |
| \sh | copy the initrd.gz from <cdrom mntpoint>/install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz to a better place | 02:45 |
| \sh | then gunzip initrd.gz | 02:45 |
| \sh | mkdir initrdmntpoint | 02:45 |
| ivoks | mount :) | 02:45 |
| \sh | sudo mount -o loop initrd initrdmntpoint | 02:45 |
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| \sh | cp <fromdir>/skge.ko initrdmntpoint/lib/modules/2.6.12-*/kernel/drivers/net/<eventually skge dir>/skge.ko | 02:46 |
| \sh | umount initrdmntpoint | 02:46 |
| \sh | gzip initrd | 02:46 |
| \sh | cp initrd.gz <cdrom mntpoint>/install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz | 02:46 |
| ivoks | ah... | 02:46 |
| ivoks | i tought i can't write to initrd :) | 02:46 |
| ivoks | silly me | 02:46 |
| \sh | its a ramdisk ;) | 02:46 |
| ivoks | i mixed it up with iso :) | 02:47 |
| ivoks | eh... Makefile should produce -8-386 | 02:47 |
| \sh | no | 02:47 |
| \sh | u have to adjust the Makefile | 02:48 |
| ivoks | right | 02:48 |
| ivoks | or do append version in kernel | 02:48 |
| \sh | adjust the makefile...so the module version symbols are ok.. | 02:48 |
| ivoks | thanks | 02:48 |
| \sh | but i needed it the last time with 2.6.12-3 /-4 | 02:48 |
| \sh | after this no more | 02:48 |
| ivoks | thanks for the initrd trick | 02:49 |
| \sh | it's a bad hack dude | 02:49 |
| ivoks | other stuff i know allready | 02:49 |
| \sh | officially ubuntu doesn't work with new marvel yukons :( which are in need of the syskonnect driver, but as fabbione said: it's a mess to integrate this filth into the kernel...and they're rewriting sk98lin from scratch | 02:50 |
| \sh | ;) | 02:50 |
| ivoks | np | 02:50 |
| ivoks | but for some, driver that is in kernel, works | 02:50 |
| ivoks | \sh did you try install with kickstart? | 02:51 |
| \sh | ivoks: pxe boot | 02:51 |
| ivoks | yes | 02:51 |
| ivoks | on other machines everything vent fine | 02:52 |
| \sh | ivoks: pxe is booting via dhcp and tftpd | 02:52 |
| ivoks | except, i had to partition it manually | 02:52 |
| \sh | but to pull the packages from the install media I need a network connection for the apache connect | 02:52 |
| ivoks | \sh yes, and then you add something like ks=http://somewhere/ks.cfg | 02:52 |
| \sh | if you want preseeding | 02:52 |
| \sh | i do a normal install via pxe | 02:53 |
| ivoks | i do... it's 30 machines :) | 02:53 |
| ivoks | no, make that 50 | 02:53 |
| \sh | but you can adjust the partioning in the preseed file | 02:53 |
| ivoks | 30 aren't working :) | 02:53 |
| ivoks | i did | 02:53 |
| ivoks | that's the problem... | 02:53 |
| \sh | u explained it on -devel? | 02:53 |
| ivoks | no, i tried today | 02:53 |
| ivoks | i have to test it one more time | 02:54 |
| ivoks | tryed | 02:55 |
| ivoks | ah, i know where is problem | 02:56 |
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| ivoks | there are two partitions... not free space on disk | 02:57 |
| sjmorgan | is this the place to ask questions about multiverse or just universe? | 02:57 |
| ivoks | so, it couldn't create partitions | 02:57 |
| ivoks | sjmorgan about development? | 02:57 |
| sjmorgan | well i have 2 questions, 1 of which is about multiverse | 02:57 |
| sjmorgan | i'm wondering where the mplayer packages have gone basically | 02:58 |
| sjmorgan | there only seems to be one for amd64 | 02:58 |
| sjmorgan | i'm using breezy btw | 02:58 |
| ivoks | sjmorgan mplayer-586 | 02:59 |
| ivoks | not just mplayer | 02:59 |
| sjmorgan | hrrm weird, but thanks | 03:00 |
| sjmorgan | i did an apt-cache search mplayer and got nothing | 03:00 |
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| ivoks | try again | 03:00 |
| sjmorgan | wtf | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu7 0 | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | 1200 http://10.18.1.1 breezy/multiverse Packages | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | works for me(tm) | 03:01 |
| sjmorgan | yeah it works here now :/ | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | yes I have weird apt pinning ;) | 03:01 |
| sjmorgan | well my other question is would it be possible to pull in quodlibet 0.12 from debian? | 03:01 |
| sjmorgan | i'm assuming that's where you source it from | 03:02 |
| ivoks | panic | 03:02 |
| ivoks | preview doesn't work too :) | 03:02 |
| sjmorgan | ? | 03:02 |
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| \sh | ok...i will sleep for 1 1/2 hour...my system has to calm down ;-) | 03:09 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:54 |
| dholbach | hey bddebian :) | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | hello bddebian | 03:55 |
| bddebian | Morning dholbach, ajmitch | 03:55 |
| bddebian | So which of you have time to help me fix this fscking debdiff? :) | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | it's only 2am here, why not? | 03:58 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: have a beer | 03:58 |
| === ajmitch has nothing better to do on a friday night | ||
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: I think I might need one :) | 03:58 |
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| jsgotangco | let us drown ourselvess ia sea of debauchey | 03:58 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: 2am is that all? :-) | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: heh | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yeah, I'm lying in bed using the laptop | 03:59 |
| === ajmitch wonders if there's any beer in the fridge | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: so do you have a debdiff for me to look at? | 04:00 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: SOrry, actually "work" mode :-) | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | ah ok | 04:06 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: http://www.bddebian.com/packages/ubuntu/pointless/ | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | wasn't sure if you'd be at work yet or not | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | the debdiff itself would have been nicer :P | 04:07 |
| bddebian | It's the only file in that dir, sheesh | 04:07 |
| bddebian | http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/pointless/pointless_0.5-5ubuntu3.debdiff | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | yes, so I had to open firefox, copy url, go to terminal, paste url to wget :) | 04:08 |
| bddebian | That's what I do :-) | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | ugh | 04:08 |
| bddebian | ugh? | 04:08 |
| === ajmitch is already in terminal for irc | ||
| ajmitch | ok | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | patching file pointless-0.5/debian/control | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | patching file pointless-0.5/debian/rules | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | Hunk #1 succeeded at 31 with fuzz 2. | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | Hunk #2 succeeded at 49 with fuzz 1. | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | patching file pointless-0.5/debian/patches/gcc4_build_fix.patch | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | patch: **** malformed patch at line 82: | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | that's what you're getting at the moment, right? | 04:10 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Yes :'-( | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | fun | 04:12 |
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| === ajmitch will try & get it working.. | ||
| ajmitch | ok, splitdiff still gives a malformed patch | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | ok, fixed that part | 04:16 |
| ajmitch | must have been a missing line of context, because adjusting the +1,15 to +1,14 worked | 04:16 |
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| ajmitch | have to see if it builds now :) | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | ok, patch fails, no huge surprises there | 04:19 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: What do you mean no surprise?? :-( | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: well the patch would probably have been broken in debian/patches | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | so fixing the debdiff doesn't mean I fixed the other patch | 04:21 |
| bddebian | The patch works, just the diff is b0rked for some reason. :-( | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | nah | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | I checked the patch in the BTS against your one | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | differing tab/space | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | so I've stuck that one in & it's working | 04:24 |
| === ajmitch does a test build to make sure | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: good news is that it builds cleanly | 04:29 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I originally did this with the patch from BTS | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | well it got munged | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | want me to upload now? | 04:30 |
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| HiddenWolf | So, is there any motu-specific documentation for the starting programmer? :) | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | you don't need to be a programmer to do MOTU work | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | it's mainly packaging | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | some scripting involved, sometimes fixing buggy code.. | 04:33 |
| bddebian | HiddenWolf: It's just slave labor.. ;-P | 04:33 |
| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, it helps if you understand at least the basics, I presume. :) | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: essentially | 04:33 |
| HiddenWolf | bddebian, I'm familiar with the concept, thanks. :) | 04:33 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Sure, please but I really need to understand why it didn't work since I seem to have a similar problem with the patch I did for drscheme | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | there are a number of wiki pages like PackagingTips, MOTUWannabeTips | 04:34 |
| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, so where do I start? | 04:34 |
| === ajmitch points above | ||
| ajmitch | at this stage we're mainly fixing up as many packages as we can before release | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | lists of stuff to do on MOTUTodo | 04:35 |
| HiddenWolf | You guys should have a start page, much like /UserDocumentation | 04:35 |
| bddebian | HiddenWolf: Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps for work but the two wiki's that ajmitch pointed out | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | HiddenWolf: feel free to write one, like /MOTU ? | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | 2 of the urls listed so far are in the topic | 04:35 |
| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, I'm planning an /ThingsThatChaseMeFromUbuntuLinux ;) | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | HiddenWolf: ok | 04:36 |
| HiddenWolf | I was sorely tempted for an rm -rf / yesterday. | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | why? | 04:36 |
| HiddenWolf | OOo choked on a critical .ppt, and I couldn't get evince to work nicely with any of my school's pdfs so far. | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | aha | 04:37 |
| HiddenWolf | I'm missing features, and my printer is mising half it's functionality. | 04:37 |
| HiddenWolf | Starting next week I'll have 3/4 lectures a week with 20-40 sheets a piece. Either in ppt or in pdf. I need to be able to print those, preferably 4-8 a page. | 04:39 |
| HiddenWolf | Can't have OOO choke on the excel sheets that explain economical theory either... | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | heh, fun :) | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | sadly, it's not in our area of fixits | 04:39 |
| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, I know. | 04:40 |
| HiddenWolf | OOO is just a POS that should be banned, as far as I'm concerned. poppler is so buggy that I can't believe they use it as default evince backend. | 04:40 |
| HiddenWolf | And Cups, what shall I say... | 04:40 |
| HiddenWolf | sending a job to my printer, and not popping up errors, yet not reaching the printer either. That's just sad. | 04:41 |
| HiddenWolf | I can print now, as long as I stick to 1 page/page and non-duplex, which isn't what I got the printer for. :P | 04:42 |
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| HiddenWolf | ajmitch, no, that's where I go loose. ;) | 04:42 |
| ajmitch | haha | 04:42 |
| ajmitch | I'd love to see that one ;) | 04:42 |
| HiddenWolf | *g* | 04:44 |
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| pef_aw | Nafallo: pbuilder log of poker3d http://dev.erodia.net/tmp/poker3d_pbuilder.log | 04:56 |
| bddebian | poker3d.. w00t | 04:56 |
| pef_aw | huh ? | 04:57 |
| Nafallo | pef_aw: strange, I'll kick it again after blam :-) | 04:57 |
| bddebian | pef: Hey, I hope you don't mind me looking at pointless and drscheme | 04:58 |
| pef | bddebian: I'm back from work, I'm looking at rightly now :) | 04:59 |
| bddebian | pef: I think ajmitch may have uploaded the pointless fix already | 04:59 |
| ajmitch | not yet | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | will do now | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Ohh | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Got to install some software, bbiam | 05:00 |
| pef | ok, so I look for drscheme | 05:01 |
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| pef | have to leave again :/ | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | night all | 05:22 |
| tseng | bye | 05:22 |
| slomo | night ajmitch :) | 05:22 |
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| \sh | re | 05:25 |
| \sh | grmpf...dircproxy restart | 05:28 |
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| bddebian | Heya \sh | 05:33 |
| \sh | hey bddebian | 05:33 |
| \sh | brb | 05:34 |
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| jsgotangco | HiddenWolf: nice wiki page heh | 05:42 |
| HiddenWolf | jsgotangco, yeah, I'll update it with my own experience in a bit, but yesterday I figured out that cups, evince and OOO make me totally unproductive. | 05:42 |
| jsgotangco | i was like wtf at the start | 05:42 |
| jsgotangco | but i was reading it a bit.. | 05:43 |
| HiddenWolf | Before classes started, for one subject, I had about 20 .docs, pdfs and ppt/xls to go over. Evince and OOo didn't like that. | 05:43 |
| \sh | ok..what do i need for this evening? some beer...some pringles....iron maiden....and emacs | 05:47 |
| \sh | that means I have to hurry to the shop | 05:48 |
| Nafallo | \sh: make that use_gpg_agent-option for Gajim graphical :-) | 05:48 |
| \sh | Nafallo: I want to integrate launchpad stuff this evening and then tweaking the ui | 05:49 |
| \sh | it's weekend ;) | 05:49 |
| Nafallo | \sh: rock on, I'll probably be her to help out. deps: girlfriends mood ;-) | 05:49 |
| \sh | Nafallo: don't worry...gf comes first ,-) | 05:51 |
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| \sh | k...hurring to the shop ;) | 05:53 |
| bddebian | \sh: Emacs?? WTF. Nano baby ;-) | 05:54 |
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| jsgotangco | he's only paying homage to the one true editor | 05:56 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 05:56 |
| slomo | bddebian: nano? what do you want to do with nano? ;) | 05:56 |
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| bddebian | slomo: nano r0x j00 baby ;-) | 05:59 |
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| LaserJock | heah guys, I got a reply from the Debian ghemical maintainer | 06:00 |
| ivoks | check out spam i got today :) | 06:00 |
| ivoks | From: webmaster@ubuntu.com | 06:00 |
| ivoks | To: ivoks@ubuntu.com | 06:00 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: And? | 06:00 |
| ivoks | :) | 06:00 |
| slomo | ivoks: lol :) what was written in the mail? | 06:00 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Nice one :-) | 06:01 |
| ivoks | Dear user ivoks, | 06:01 |
| ivoks | You have successfully updated the password of your Ubuntu account. | 06:01 |
| ivoks | :) | 06:01 |
| ivoks | If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Ubuntu customer service at: webmaster@ubuntu.com | 06:01 |
| jsgotangco | hahah | 06:01 |
| slomo | hmm | 06:01 |
| jsgotangco | i haven't received any ubuntu spam yet | 06:01 |
| ivoks | let's see where did it came from | 06:01 |
| ivoks | hm | 06:02 |
| ivoks | lol! | 06:02 |
| ivoks | pcchip, croatian magazine :) | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | He said the MOPAC wasn't built into libghemcial because it didn't play well with gcc-4.0 and said that he had looked at the latest version of ghemical (1.9) briefly but didn't have much success | 06:02 |
| ivoks | oh, now they'll hear me :) | 06:02 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 06:02 |
| \sh | back | 06:03 |
| \sh | i hope it will rain tonight..this humidity is evil | 06:03 |
| slomo | \sh++ :) | 06:03 |
| \sh | slomo: prost :) | 06:04 |
| slomo | ah, you have a beer now too? ;) | 06:04 |
| \sh | yeah...and just I start emacs ,) | 06:05 |
| slomo | \sh: prost :) | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | I think I might try to fiddle around with the Debian source packages for mopac and libghemical today at work. I was able to get both of them to build with pbuilder last night but I want to see if I can get the MOPAC support built into libghemical. | 06:05 |
| slomo | what do you want to do with emacs? just fixing some stuff? | 06:05 |
| \sh | slomo: hacking gajim ;) | 06:05 |
| slomo | \sh: what exactly? :) | 06:06 |
| \sh | launchpad integration | 06:06 |
| slomo | good idea... did you and Nafallo convice the devs that launchpad is useful for them? ;) | 06:07 |
| \sh | slomo: I think they understood..they're only a bit pissed because of their not imported .po files | 06:07 |
| slomo | \sh: hmm... but they are imported now afaik ;) https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+translations | 06:09 |
| \sh | nice :() | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | Is there a reason why libghemical is not in universe? | 06:10 |
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| slomo | LaserJock: no idea... probably just forgotten... maybe tell elmo about it or something | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | hmm, ok. I think that ghemical would be fixed (kinda) if we got libghemical built | 06:13 |
| \sh | slomo: they're ok with it :) | 06:14 |
| \sh | slomo: you can join them on gajim@conferences.jabber.no ;) | 06:15 |
| slomo | \sh: i know... i was there yesterday :) | 06:15 |
| Nafallo | \sh: he talked to them about avahi :-) | 06:15 |
| \sh | ah ;) | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | ok, dumb question. I can't find any contact info (email address) for elmo? Does anybody have that? | 06:25 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: tried elmo@ubuntu.com? | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | no, doh | 06:27 |
| bddebian | Actually I think it's james.troup@... | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks guys | 06:29 |
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| \sh | ok...dchroot and compile gajim | 06:38 |
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| \sh | gnarf...76MB to update | 06:40 |
| j^ | current version of dhcdbd in universe has some nasty security issues and i found a new upstream version in fedoras srpms which i just packaged for ubuntu http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/dhcdbd_1.8-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 06:40 |
| j^ | should i dput it to revu? | 06:40 |
| \sh | what is dhcdbd? | 06:40 |
| j^ | oh and how can i remove something from revu? dpull? | 06:40 |
| \sh | archive | 06:41 |
| slomo | j^: tell some motu to remove it ;) what do you want to be removed? | 06:41 |
| j^ | dhcdbd provides a dbus interface to dhclient, so applications such as | 06:41 |
| j^ | NetworkManager can query and control dhclient. | 06:41 |
| j^ | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=561 since i have a new version 1.8 i would rather upload | 06:41 |
| j^ | code wise the biggest change is a new dbus system.d file which does not allow everything to everyone | 06:42 |
| \sh | j^: problem is..if network manager is ever hitting main...dhcpbd needs to go to main too | 06:42 |
| slomo | j^: just upload the new version... revu will handle this | 06:42 |
| j^ | \sh true, still current version has a security bugt | 06:42 |
| j^ | slomo ok | 06:42 |
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| j^ | \sh im also fine with sending patches, or just pointing out that a newer version its at http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ | 06:44 |
| j^ | its rather confusing to have universe packages that are not universe packages because they might end up in main at some point | 06:44 |
| j^ | and thus its not possible to fix bugs in them | 06:45 |
| \sh | j^: why? the issue is only: nothing in main can depend on packages in universe | 06:45 |
| j^ | \sh ???? | 06:45 |
| j^ | \sh network-manager depends on dhcdbd | 06:46 |
| j^ | also the broken version in universe | 06:46 |
| j^ | and it will always depend on it | 06:46 |
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| \sh | j^: network-manager is also universe....but if you want to bring network-manager to main, all dependencies have to be in main as well | 06:47 |
| j^ | \sh sure, but thats not relevant here | 06:48 |
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| \sh | j^: not now ;) | 06:48 |
| ivoks | nm is.. ah... | 06:49 |
| \sh | ivoks: fire ... | 06:49 |
| ivoks | network manager hangs if laptop is put to sleep | 06:49 |
| ivoks | you have to restart dbus and kill -9 nm-applet | 06:49 |
| j^ | \sh i do not see how it will ever an issue. my changes fix a bug in dhcdbd, which is a package n-m depends on | 06:50 |
| ivoks | that's why i give up it | 06:50 |
| ivoks | it's easier to use wifi-radar and restart it on every resume | 06:50 |
| j^ | ivoks might be a problem with your wireless driver | 06:51 |
| ivoks | j^: it isn't | 06:51 |
| ivoks | j^: works with wifi-radar | 06:51 |
| ivoks | and iwconfig sees network | 06:51 |
| j^ | nm does work fine here with my orinoco_pci card | 06:51 |
| ivoks | only nm losees it | 06:51 |
| j^ | ivoks still in most cases wifi drivers are broken | 06:51 |
| ivoks | j^: and after you put your laptop to sleep/resume? | 06:51 |
| ivoks | j^: S3 sleep | 06:52 |
| ivoks | j^: this is ipw2200 | 06:52 |
| j^ | broken | 06:52 |
| ivoks | maybe | 06:52 |
| ivoks | but in this case problem isn't in driver | 06:52 |
| ivoks | cause all other wifi tools are working | 06:52 |
| ivoks | after resume... only nm crashes | 06:52 |
| j^ | no | 06:53 |
| j^ | nm might be more demanding, but its the driver that is broken | 06:53 |
| ivoks | ok | 06:53 |
| j^ | nobody of the driver devs argues about that | 06:53 |
| ivoks | anyway, it's unusable for me | 06:53 |
| j^ | its just that they need to be fixed | 06:53 |
| j^ | possible | 06:53 |
| ivoks | i would like only for ethernet | 06:54 |
| j^ | http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm-ipw2200.shtml might have some info | 06:54 |
| ivoks | signal level isn't important for me | 06:54 |
| ivoks | usabilty is :) | 06:55 |
| j^ | which version of the driver do you use? | 06:55 |
| ivoks | latest | 06:55 |
| ivoks | acctually | 06:56 |
| slomo | \sh: how is you gajim work going? :) | 06:56 |
| ivoks | those that comes with -8-686 | 06:56 |
| ivoks | j^: i never had any problems with it | 06:56 |
| ivoks | j^: it even works better than in windows :) | 06:56 |
| j^ | ivoks i never had such a card, so i hever had problems with it too :) | 06:56 |
| ivoks | j^: integrated chipset :) | 06:56 |
| ivoks | j^: is your wifi on laptop? | 06:57 |
| j^ | ivoks yes, ibm x30 | 06:57 |
| \sh | slomo: I inserted a menuitem | 06:57 |
| ivoks | j^: can you put it in S3 sleep? | 06:57 |
| j^ | ivoks sure | 06:57 |
| \sh | slomo: i added a function for launchpad integration | 06:57 |
| \sh | slomo: but it fails, cause it thinks it's a menu | 06:58 |
| ivoks | j^: could you try it? and see if nm shows you signal after resume? | 06:58 |
| j^ | ivoks i use it very day and yes it does | 06:58 |
| ivoks | heh, ok | 06:58 |
| ivoks | then it doesn't work only for me :) | 06:58 |
| ivoks | maybe i could try it again | 06:58 |
| j^ | you can come by if you want to check | 06:58 |
| j^ | im in zagreb right now | 06:58 |
| ivoks | ? | 06:59 |
| slomo | \sh: where do you want the LP menuitems inserted? under actions? | 06:59 |
| ivoks | what's the weather in zagreb? :) | 06:59 |
| \sh | slomo: no...I inserted a _? and then Launchpad only for testing purposes | 06:59 |
| j^ | ivoks just started raining a bit | 06:59 |
| ivoks | j^: and, who are you? :) | 07:00 |
| j^ | und now a beautyfull sunset | 07:00 |
| slomo | \sh: when you want i can take a look at it tomorrow :) | 07:00 |
| j^ | ivoks one of the guys with a laptop here: operacijagrad.org | 07:01 |
| \sh | argl... | 07:01 |
| \sh | all bullshit | 07:01 |
| ivoks | i'll return | 07:02 |
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| \sh | g_return_if_fail (GTK_IS_MENU (helpmenu)); | 07:05 |
| \sh | grmpf | 07:05 |
| ivoks | nope... it just searches for dhcp on ethernet... | 07:05 |
| ivoks | dies on wifi | 07:05 |
| \sh | mvo told me it must be a menu item and not a menu | 07:05 |
| j^ | ivoks how long did you wait? | 07:05 |
| ivoks | j^: i tailed syslog | 07:05 |
| ivoks | nm told it's going to sleep | 07:05 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:05 |
| ivoks | hm.. | 07:06 |
| ivoks | ok, let's try again | 07:06 |
| ivoks | j^: what are you doing in zagreb? | 07:06 |
| j^ | it might take some time for the card to come back | 07:06 |
| \sh | slomo: I have it ... I have to put a menu ,-) | 07:07 |
| slomo | \sh: :) | 07:07 |
| ivoks | j^: it isn't a card | 07:07 |
| ivoks | j^: with wifi-radar it's up before i unlock my screen | 07:07 |
| ivoks | brb | 07:07 |
| j^ | powers out... | 07:11 |
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| ivoks | it's a bug in nm | 07:13 |
| ivoks | if i tell it to search for my SSID, it finds it and connects | 07:13 |
| ivoks | but doesn't do that automatic. | 07:14 |
| \sh | slomo: works for me ,-) | 07:17 |
| slomo | \sh: upload then ;) | 07:17 |
| \sh | just now...have to straighten things ,-) | 07:17 |
| \sh | slomo: I'll provide the patch directly to upstream ;) | 07:36 |
| slomo | \sh: even better :) maybe they can put their about dialog into the ? menu too :P | 07:37 |
| \sh | already discussed ;) | 07:37 |
| slomo | :) | 07:37 |
| \sh | but I just shot my work | 07:37 |
| \sh | damn | 07:37 |
| slomo | \sh: will they get a new release out in the next days? | 07:37 |
| bddebian | Hmm, guess I don't have upload rights yet :-) | 07:37 |
| \sh | anyways...again...was fast | 07:37 |
| slomo | bddebian: try it ;) probably not | 07:37 |
| bddebian | slomo: I tried an upload about an hour ago ;-) | 07:38 |
| slomo | bddebian: and what happened? nothing? | 07:38 |
| bddebian | Nada | 07:38 |
| slomo | ok, then you're at the same state like me :) | 07:38 |
| tseng | Mithrandir: here? | 07:48 |
| dholbach | tseng: ! | 07:49 |
| dholbach | how's it going? | 07:49 |
| tseng | hiya dholbach | 07:49 |
| tseng | its alright. | 07:49 |
| \sh | slomo: dunno | 07:49 |
| tseng | dholbach: i have a bad problem with work development stuff | 07:50 |
| tseng | dholbach: a package wont build on breezy that i really need. | 07:50 |
| dholbach | much to do? | 07:50 |
| dholbach | oh | 07:50 |
| dholbach | which one | 07:50 |
| tseng | scotty | 07:50 |
| tseng | it was dropped from debian YEARS ago | 07:50 |
| tseng | im using cvs | 07:50 |
| tseng | or, I was | 07:50 |
| tseng | dholbach: slomo is doing loads of amd64 mono love today | 07:51 |
| dholbach | tseng: he told me :-D | 07:52 |
| tseng | ok so here is our current problem | 07:52 |
| tseng | stuff is getting "lost" in mono upgrades from hoary | 07:52 |
| tseng | < slomo> because then it probably makes sense... the gac stuff are just symlinks, right? so dpkg can't see that they've changed or something... mono-classlib-1.0 is installed before mono-assemblies-base gets replaced while updating hoary->breezy so probably the symlinks get removed | 07:52 |
| \sh | ok...gajim has launchpad integration...I'll prepare a new upload...but first I want to have the opinion of upstream | 07:52 |
| tseng | does anyone have an idea of how to force dpkg to upgrade properly? | 07:53 |
| nakata | hehe | 07:53 |
| dholbach | what are you talking about? | 07:54 |
| \sh | dpkg --force-all -i ? | 07:54 |
| tseng | i meant apt, really | 07:54 |
| dholbach | you call that properly? :) | 07:54 |
| tseng | dholbach: upgrading mono from hoary -> breezy | 07:55 |
| tseng | stuff used to be in mono-assemblies-base | 07:55 |
| \sh | dholbach: works for me ,-) | 07:55 |
| tseng | now in mono-classlib-1.0 | 07:55 |
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| tseng | m-c-1 Replaces: mono-a-b | 07:55 |
| tseng | but it doesnt handle it nicely with the symlinks | 07:55 |
| tseng | slomo found out it removes the replaced package second or something | 07:56 |
| tseng | slomo: do i have it right? | 07:57 |
| slomo | tseng: it installs mono-classlib-1.0 and then replaces m-a-b with the dummy package... so the symlinks created by m-c-1 are removed... probably | 07:57 |
| tseng | OH! | 07:58 |
| tseng | i built it | 07:58 |
| bddebian | tseng: Nice | 07:59 |
| tseng | initialization failed: couldn't load file "/usr/local/lib/tnm3.0.0.so": /usr/local/lib/tnm3.0.0.so: undefined symbol: __dn_expand | 07:59 |
| tseng | almost | 07:59 |
| slomo | tseng: ? | 07:59 |
| tseng | slomo: work stuff | 07:59 |
| slomo | tseng: ah ok | 07:59 |
| tseng | slomo: i cant get this crap built on breezy | 07:59 |
| tseng | -lresolve for the win | 08:00 |
| tseng | i rock. | 08:01 |
| slomo | :) | 08:01 |
| tseng | i should make a deb | 08:02 |
| slomo | we should find a dpkg guru to help us with the mono problem ;) | 08:04 |
| bddebian | slomo: No, we should send elmo some beer for our uploads ;-) | 08:05 |
| slomo | that too ;) but that's second priority now :P | 08:05 |
| tseng | slomo: definately. | 08:07 |
| bddebian | slomo: What is first priority? :-) | 08:07 |
| slomo | bddebian: fixing mono updates from hoary | 08:07 |
| bddebian | slomo: Anything I can help with? | 08:08 |
| \sh | slomo: http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/899 | 08:08 |
| slomo | bddebian: see above :) can you help with this? | 08:08 |
| dholbach | good bye | 08:09 |
| tseng | bye dholbach | 08:09 |
| slomo | bye dholbach :) | 08:10 |
| dholbach | bye brandon, sebastian :) | 08:10 |
| bddebian | Later dholbach | 08:10 |
| \sh | dholbach: night :) have fun... | 08:10 |
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| dholbach | see youuuuuu | 08:10 |
| bddebian | slomo: What does it need? :-) | 08:10 |
| \sh | ok another beer | 08:11 |
| slomo | bddebian: dpkg love ;) currently mono-assemblies-base is updated after mono-classlib-1.0 and it has to be the other way around | 08:11 |
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| bddebian | \sh: wanna do a quick upload for me since it appears that I don't have rights yet? | 08:12 |
| bddebian | slomo: Over my head, sorry. :-( | 08:12 |
| slomo | bddebian: np... it's over my head too ;) | 08:12 |
| \sh | bddebian: fire :) | 08:13 |
| \sh | I just updated my pbuilder ,-) | 08:13 |
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| herve | hello | 08:13 |
| \sh | or wait...let me grab a beer ,-) | 08:13 |
| \sh | now | 08:14 |
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| \sh | gajim_0.8.2-0ubuntu3 is building ,-) | 08:16 |
| \sh | Using Rosetta | 08:17 |
| \sh | You need an account (free) to use it. It's very quick to make one. Visit https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+translations for more | 08:17 |
| \sh | yes...they're using it :) | 08:17 |
| bddebian | \sh: The debdiff for drscheme I posted on MOTUGLUTransitions should work now | 08:18 |
| bddebian | Heya herve | 08:18 |
| slomo | \sh: wonderfull :) will they move to bzr? ;) | 08:18 |
| \sh | slomo: slowley ;) | 08:18 |
| \sh | lets import the head first in bzr ;) | 08:18 |
| \sh | ah jblack...need to talk with him :) | 08:18 |
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| slomo | \sh: where's the new gajim upload? :) | 08:31 |
| \sh | slomo: moment..taking to jblack on #launchpad and fighting again on gajim@... | 08:31 |
| slomo | ok... | 08:32 |
| \sh | just testing the package :) | 08:35 |
| \sh | wooow | 08:37 |
| slomo | ? :) | 08:38 |
| \sh | upload | 08:41 |
| slomo | hm, when will the LP menu entries be usable, i.e. when will they show something else than a placeholder page ;) | 08:42 |
| \sh | slomo: left to the placeholder....you can see the product translation page link | 08:44 |
| slomo | \sh: that only links to the placeholder again... at least for epiphany ;) but anyway, the placeholders aren't that useful imho :) | 08:45 |
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| slomo | \sh: ok... on more ;) not really user friendly :( | 08:46 |
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| bddebian | Heya Lathiat, Seveas | 08:50 |
| slomo | \sh: maybe we should take over maintainership for gajim in debian ;) | 08:52 |
| \sh | bddebian: sorry..I'm just busy with the gajim devs...because they have legal issues *gnarf* | 08:54 |
| slomo | legal issues? | 08:54 |
| bddebian | \sh: Sorry for what? | 08:54 |
| \sh | that I don't do the upload right now..give me 20 mins :) thx :) | 08:55 |
| bddebian | Oh no worries man | 08:55 |
| \sh | just trying to catch sabdfl | 08:56 |
| \sh | ok..what was it? | 08:57 |
| \sh | which package? | 08:57 |
| \sh | drscheme? | 08:58 |
| \sh | yes | 08:58 |
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| \sh | wow. | 09:06 |
| \sh | great | 09:06 |
| \sh | bddebian: ok...I'm fully your slave now :) | 09:07 |
| \sh | just dealt with all this..and sabdfl is such a nice guy to take his time with upstream devs | 09:08 |
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| \sh | bddebian: building drscheme | 09:17 |
| === ivoks is in keyring! | ||
| === slomo too :) | ||
| ivoks | so... | 09:17 |
| ivoks | question... | 09:17 |
| ivoks | can i just upload bugfixes or i need a review for them? | 09:18 |
| slomo | just upload them if they work :) and when you're unsure whether it's the correct way to fix ask someone ;) | 09:18 |
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| bddebian | \sh: Nice, thanks | 09:20 |
| \sh | bddebian: sorry for the delay :) | 09:21 |
| bddebian | \sh: No worries really. Looks like I may actually be able to do my own soon. :-) | 09:22 |
| \sh | bddebian: I hope so...I wish :) | 09:23 |
| \sh | bddebian: build.I'll upload | 09:24 |
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| herve | see you later | 09:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya Mez, where you been? :-) | 09:30 |
| slomo | hi Mez :) | 09:31 |
| Mez | I've been at a new job | 09:32 |
| ivoks | yay! my first upload to universe :) | 09:32 |
| slomo | ivoks: nice :) | 09:32 |
| slomo | ivoks: i'm currently searching something to upload ;) | 09:33 |
| ivoks | :)) | 09:33 |
| ivoks | slomo: it better be good | 09:33 |
| slomo | i hope banshee upstream releases a new version soon ;) | 09:33 |
| slomo | Lathiat: may i upload libnss-mdns 0.6 with avahi support? | 09:34 |
| Lathiat | slomo: heh | 09:34 |
| Lathiat | slomo: i already prepared that | 09:34 |
| Lathiat | slomo: have you already prepared it? | 09:34 |
| slomo | Lathiat: nope... but shouldn't be that hard ;) but when you've done it already... | 09:34 |
| Lathiat | slomo: change the Recommends to avahi-daemon | mdnsresponder | 09:34 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Yeah, congrats | 09:34 |
| ivoks | slomo: GLUTransition needs lots of love :) | 09:34 |
| bddebian | Mez: Oh, congrats | 09:35 |
| Lathiat | wnat the debdiff? | 09:35 |
| ivoks | bddebian: thanks | 09:35 |
| Lathiat | i cant uplload yet | 09:35 |
| bddebian | ivoks: It shouldn't, I have hit most of them | 09:35 |
| slomo | Lathiat: against 0.5... i'll sponsor it for you then :) | 09:35 |
| ivoks | ghc6 is uploaded? | 09:35 |
| Mez | bddebian, .... ? | 09:35 |
| slomo | Lathiat: against 0.6 the debdiff please ;) | 09:35 |
| bddebian | Mez: Congrats on a new job :-) | 09:35 |
| ivoks | bddebian: ok, let's wipe out some bugs | 09:35 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Yar | 09:35 |
| Mez | oh, lol - been in it for a while... very tiring | 09:35 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 09:36 |
| bddebian | ivoks: You could try flightgear if your c++ foo is good :-) | 09:36 |
| ivoks | :/ | 09:36 |
| Lathiat | http://bur.st/~lathiat/nss-mdns.debdiff | 09:36 |
| slomo | Lathiat: ok, will upload it :) | 09:37 |
| ivoks | bddebian: url | 09:37 |
| bddebian | ivoks: For? | 09:38 |
| ivoks | bddebian: flightgear | 09:39 |
| ivoks | bddebian: it doesn't compile or what? | 09:40 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Aye FTBFS. Undefined reference to std::XXX | 09:40 |
| bddebian | Needs GL/GLU transition too | 09:40 |
| ivoks | ok... | 09:40 |
| ivoks | but that will compile for ages :) | 09:41 |
| bddebian | Oh, then don't bother :-) | 09:41 |
| ivoks | but nice game, tough | 09:41 |
| ivoks | we should work on it | 09:41 |
| bddebian | It may need some library rebuilds | 09:42 |
| \sh | bddebian: uploaded | 09:44 |
| bddebian | \sh: REJECTED :-( | 09:45 |
| \sh | why? | 09:45 |
| \sh | it's your package | 09:45 |
| \sh | reason? | 09:45 |
| ivoks | yay accepted :) | 09:46 |
| bddebian | \sh: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2047 | 09:46 |
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| slomo | Lathiat: uploaded :) | 09:46 |
| Lathiat | slomo: woo thanks | 09:47 |
| ivoks | hm... | 09:47 |
| ivoks | time for email change :) | 09:47 |
| \sh | bddebian: | 09:47 |
| \sh | hmm | 09:47 |
| \sh | a f*ck | 09:47 |
| \sh | -sa | 09:48 |
| \sh | is nogood | 09:48 |
| bddebian | ? | 09:48 |
| \sh | i made a mistake | 09:48 |
| \sh | thought it was a native package..so I did debuild -S -sa -ksh@sourcecode.de | 09:49 |
| bddebian | As opposed to? | 09:50 |
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| slomo | Lathiat: got mail from katie? | 09:56 |
| Lathiat | Rejected: nss-mdns_0.6-1ubuntu1.dsc refers to nss-mdns_0.6.orig.tar.gz, but I | 09:56 |
| Lathiat | +can't find it in the queue or in the pool. | 09:56 |
| slomo | narf... sorry :/ | 09:57 |
| slomo | same mistake as \sh | 09:57 |
| \sh | bddebian: check now | 09:58 |
| \sh | ok..another beer... | 09:58 |
| ivoks | we have ssh-krb5 | 09:59 |
| ivoks | wich provides ssh client and ssh server | 09:59 |
| ivoks | these two are in main | 09:59 |
| ivoks | so, could we create package ssh-krb5 wich provides ssh-client and ssh-server? | 09:59 |
| ivoks | since package from main depend on ssh-client/server | 10:00 |
| bddebian | \sh: Nothing yet | 10:09 |
| \sh | Von: Barry deFreese <bddebian@comcast.net> | 10:09 |
| \sh | Antwort an: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 10:09 |
| \sh | An: breezy-changes@lists.ubuntu.com | 10:09 |
| \sh | Betreff: Accepted drscheme 1:209-5ubuntu1 (source) | 10:09 |
| \sh | sorry | 10:09 |
| \sh | accepted | 10:09 |
| bddebian | :-) | 10:09 |
| slomo | bddebian? i have a job for you :) do you some time? | 10:11 |
| bddebian | slomo: Shoot | 10:11 |
| slomo | bddebian: apt-get update && apt-get install banshee | 10:11 |
| slomo | bddebian: then run it and tell me the errors... apt-get install libsqlite3-0 when something with sql fails ;) | 10:11 |
| bddebian | slomo: Ack, I'm not at home.. :-( I don't have X handy :-( | 10:15 |
| slomo | bddebian: oh :( | 10:15 |
| bddebian | I'll be home in a while and I can try | 10:15 |
| \sh | bddebian: are you going to ubz? | 10:18 |
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| bddebian | \sh: I may try to go one of the weeks but it will be tough | 10:19 |
| \sh | bddebian: ok...from 29th to 6th this is the week to come ;) | 10:20 |
| bddebian | OK :-) | 10:20 |
| \sh | bddebian: it's an order not a wish ;-) | 10:22 |
| \sh | hahah | 10:22 |
| bddebian | \sh: Yes Sir! :-) | 10:22 |
| \sh | hihi | 10:22 |
| bddebian | w00t, tagcoll 1.4 builds now | 10:27 |
| \sh | hmmmm | 10:27 |
| \sh | I'm a bit dizzy | 10:27 |
| \sh | listening to TaTu | 10:27 |
| bddebian | too many biers? ;-) | 10:27 |
| \sh | bddebian: hope so ;) | 10:27 |
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| \sh | think I should go to bed..to be ready to join ogra tomorrow ;) | 10:35 |
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| \sh | re slomo ogra_ltsp | 10:39 |
| ivoks | hehe | 10:39 |
| ivoks | xine-ui success on all platforms :) | 10:39 |
| Mez | does anyone know who seb payne is on IRC? | 10:39 |
| slomo | Mez: spayne | 10:39 |
| slomo | was there an hour ago | 10:40 |
| Mez | grr | 10:40 |
| Mez | I need to poke him | 10:40 |
| slomo | hehe | 10:40 |
| Mez | well | 10:40 |
| Mez | I need to talk to him about iFolder | 10:40 |
| Mez | I've just been asked to maintain the packages for debain and ubuntu | 10:41 |
| Mez | oh | 10:41 |
| Mez | just ubuntu | 10:41 |
| slomo | \sh: regarding gajim... please put about as the last entry in help | 10:41 |
| slomo | \sh: looks wrong now ;) | 10:41 |
| \sh | slomo: ok | 10:42 |
| \sh | damn...tomorrow | 10:42 |
| \sh | I can't code anymore ,-) | 10:42 |
| ivoks | bye all | 10:42 |
| slomo | hehe | 10:42 |
| bddebian | heh | 10:42 |
| bddebian | Later ivoks | 10:42 |
| slomo | Mez: are they already in debian? and why should they be maintained separate? | 10:43 |
| \sh | slomo: tomorrow morning | 10:44 |
| Mez | slomo - I doubt it... and no idea | 10:44 |
| Mez | simple fact is ... iFolder has a prorietary library, so neither can distribute... the stuff would be on their servers | 10:45 |
| slomo | Mez: uuh... didn't know that... will novell change this? | 10:45 |
| Mez | I've no idea | 10:45 |
| Mez | and I didnt know either until some problems came up | 10:46 |
| bddebian | Mez: spayne is in #u-d | 10:47 |
| bddebian | w00t first upload, changes accepted. | 10:53 |
| \sh | ok.guys going too bed | 10:53 |
| \sh | bddebian: congrats :) | 10:54 |
| bddebian | Gnight \sh, thanks as always | 10:54 |
| \sh | bddebian: you rock dude :) | 10:54 |
| bddebian | Heh | 10:54 |
| \sh | slomo: try ;) | 10:54 |
| Mez | oh, you got MOTU bddebian ? | 10:54 |
| slomo | \sh: what? | 10:54 |
| Mez | congrats dude | 10:54 |
| \sh | slomo: to upload :) | 10:54 |
| bddebian | Mez: Aye. Thanks. | 10:54 |
| \sh | ogra_ltsp: tomorrow? latest 14 GMT+2? | 10:54 |
| slomo | \sh: already done 2 uploads :) | 10:55 |
| Mez | bddebian, you deserve it :D shame it took so damn long though | 10:55 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 10:55 |
| \sh | slomo: woot? by yourself? congrats as well | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 10:55 |
| bddebian | slomo: rockin' | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Mez: Bah :-) | 10:55 |
| \sh | sistpoty: hi and bye...:) | 10:55 |
| slomo | \sh: thanks :) | 10:55 |
| ogra_ltsp | \sh ok | 10:55 |
| \sh | ogra_ltsp: when I'm at the station I will call you...whereever it is ;) | 10:56 |
| ogra_ltsp | ok | 10:56 |
| \sh | hope they have cell transmission their ;) | 10:56 |
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| \sh | s/their/there/ | 10:56 |
| \sh | g'night folks ...and rock as hard as ever team | 10:57 |
| sistpoty | gn8 \sh_away | 10:57 |
| slomo | gn8 \sh_away :) | 10:57 |
| sistpoty | ping lamont | 11:00 |
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| sistpoty | lamont: if you have too much time, could you kick ocamldap (i386) and eventually ocamlcreal? (not urgent though) | 11:03 |
| bddebian | Well, gonna head home. Catch you all in a few. | 11:11 |
| sistpoty | later bddebian | 11:11 |
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| sistpoty | *g* | 11:38 |
| sistpoty | it was, at least on date of upload for i386 ;) | 11:38 |
| lamont | the auto-depwaiter will happily dep-wait on a virtual package, which will never be cleared until that's done manually | 11:39 |
| sistpoty | do you mean ocaml-nox-3.08? should it be ocaml-nox instead? | 11:42 |
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