=== mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@213.33.95.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] Lathiat: ping [12:06] ivoks: pong [12:06] nm works for you? [12:06] i get errors [12:06] such as? [12:07] Sep 8 23:56:20 localhost NetworkManager: ^I[1126216580.767853] (): couldn't initialize nameserver: Failed to execute child process "no" (No such file or directory) [12:07] nuqneh:~> cat /etc/apt/sources.list|grep Net [12:07] # NetworkManager [12:07] deb http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy ./ [12:07] ah... [12:07] ivoks, did you upgrade from the universe to the one from j^? [12:07] universe :) [12:07] ivoks, as that upgrade will break nameresolution [12:08] does it use bind? [12:08] it's hard to type while in bed :) [12:09] yes [12:10] i see [12:11] Lathiat: any luck with colony4? === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns01-1225.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-166.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] morning all [01:08] morning Unfrgiven [01:08] how's life over the ditch? === Lathiat discovers dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig [01:08] which does the job [01:08] that can go into avahi [01:08] and i need to tell pitti, mvo, daniels about that [01:09] also dhcpbdb sucks [01:09] rock [01:09] it installs an allow all config for the system dbus [01:09] e.g. anything can own anything === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] Lathiat: so I need to restart avahi-daemon now? [01:09] ajmitch: to do what? [01:10] to run avahi-discover [01:10] why would you? [01:10] well.. [01:10] File "dbus_bindings.pyx", line 379, in dbus_bindings.Connection.send_with_reply_and_block [01:10] dbus_bindings.DBusException: The name org.freedesktop.Avahi was not provided by any .service files [01:10] well that means your daemon is dead [01:10] after running your dbus crack [01:10] oh [01:10] it kicked it off the bus? [01:10] it may ahve crashed [01:10] 0.2 had a bug [01:10] where i fyou have no interfaces up [01:10] yeah [01:11] and dhcp on the interface [01:11] it crashes [01:11] interfaces are up === ajmitch is doing this via ssh [01:11] so i just run that [01:11] it doesnt kill the daemon [01:11] ok, it's all working now [01:11] so i dunno why yours did [01:11] this was on a fresh install [01:11] oh [01:11] right [01:11] looks like my flatmate is still home [01:11] so yeh [01:11] youd need to start it [01:11] ajmitch: hehe [01:12] reflector is still working well then [01:12] since it sees both wireless & wired [01:13] ajmitch: this side of the ditch is good :) [01:13] my laptop arrived yesterday! its a dell XPS-2 :D [01:14] great [01:14] specs? === ajmitch does feel very jealous now :) [01:15] Pentium M 2.13GHz, 512 MB DDR2 RAM, 256 MB Geforce Go 6800 Ultra, 80 GB hdd [01:15] yeah [01:16] its the highest end dell model available! [01:16] Unfrgiven: oh man [01:16] i was shocked [01:16] and its got a 17 inch screen. 1900x1200 native! [01:16] haha [01:16] nice === ajmitch thinks of his 1024x768 [01:17] i already got a big laptop so im glad i got something smaller [01:17] www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspn_xps2 [01:17] thatd make a killer desktop replacement === Lathiat flies to Unfrgiven's house and steals it [01:21] yeah my current laptop is an inspiron 5150 which has a 3.2Ghz P4... so i was hoping for something smaller, but i definately aint complaining :) [01:21] the XPS gets higher benchmarks than my p4-3.0Ghz 2GB RAM, 256MB X800 Pro desktop! [01:22] dude, don't need to rub it in :P [01:22] haha [01:22] sorry, wasnt intentional === Lathiat isnt fussed [01:28] anyways, i should get back to work. i'll talk to you guys soon. [01:29] yeah, but how much does the XPS weigh? [01:30] approximately "1 metric fuckload" ? [01:30] exactly [01:34] can someone enlighten me on the last comment at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=472 [01:34] 'cause it is a Mono binary [01:35] alot of mono packages come with arch-specific glue libs [01:35] if you have only dll/exe, its arch any [01:36] it is dll/exe [01:36] and he tells you you should change Build-Depends to Build-Depends-Indep in this case [01:36] ah ok [01:36] makes more sense [01:37] sorry [01:37] I'll update hugin first [01:44] tseng: but arch any make a package i386 when build [01:45] tseng: this could run on PowerPC verbatim [01:45] we mean "all" then I guess [01:45] i get them mixed up, since they seem to mean the same thing in english === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487F777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] they don't [01:47] any and all is not the same [01:47] i know [01:47] "i get them mixed up" [01:48] ok make sense === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F70F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@dhcp64-134-126-89.sjca.sjc.wayport.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] <\sh> grmpf [02:21] \sh: morning :-) [02:21] <\sh> Nafallo: yes..good morning...:( [02:21] <\sh> I just came back from office... [02:21] <\sh> I think I have to write a book: My Last Tax Adventure [02:22] :-P [02:23] <\sh> at least I know now, that I can download commercial tax software :( [02:23] \sh, err... arent you supposed to be on holiday ? [02:23] <\sh> ogra: I don't have a printer and I had to print out the tax documents [02:23] gah [02:24] <\sh> never use "ElsterFormular" for Income Tax Stuff it doesn't work [02:24] <\sh> I tried 3 hours of getting it to say "Yes, the date 01.01.2004 - 30.04.2004 is a correct date" [02:25] there is another project for linux ... approved by the ta office [02:25] tax even [02:25] <\sh> after these 3 hours I was just p*ssed and downloaded buhl t@x software... [02:25] its elster compatible [02:25] <\sh> yeah..buhl data [02:25] <\sh> but I downloaded the first time (and paid) the wrong software...t@x 2004 means: Income Tax Program for the Year 2003 :( [02:26] a free project [02:26] <\sh> ah you mean this webbased stuff? [02:26] nope... its tcl or something... form a uni [02:26] i'd have to look it up in a big stack of linux magazines... [02:26] <\sh> ummm....name it, I use it...I paid this evening 30 euros for 2 bloody programs [02:27] dunno in which one it was mentioned [02:27] <\sh> anyways...I just send my tax stuff to the tax department, printed the stuff via freepdfXP on this portege r200, transfered the pdf files to our company network and printed out there [02:28] <\sh> and now it's just 2:30 GMT+2 and I have to go early this morning to Siegburg to deliver my tax documents *argh* === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] Hey folks === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] <\sh> ok...going to bed now...i have to get up early...cu tomorrow === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === karlheg [n=karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === parktownprawn [n=kevin@203.212.216.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] good to see pitti fixing pgadmin3 [03:18] indeed :-) [03:19] ajmitch: He is? [03:19] bddebian: yes, removing frmo unmet deps on wiki now [03:20] ajmitch: Nice. pgaccess too? [03:20] haven't seen that on -changes [03:20] Damn I need my upload rights.. :-( [03:21] bddebian: complain to Nafallo or someone [03:22] or I can do stuff in ~4 hours [03:22] what now? ;-) [03:22] Nafallo: bddebian wants you to upload crap again [03:22] Damn man, you make it sound like that is a bad thing..:'-( [03:22] lol [03:22] bddebian: where is the debdiffs? [03:23] Nafallo: MOTUGLUTransitions [03:23] Nafallo: If you could look over the one I did for pefs pointless and the one I am about to post for drscheme, I would greatly appreciate too [03:28] ajmitch: Were you looking at poker3d? [03:28] bddebian: read pointless, seems you rock! :-) [03:28] bddebian: no [03:28] Nafallo: I read anyway [03:29] ajmitch: OK, I thought I you had said that,sorry [03:29] no matter whose debdiff :) [03:29] Nafallo: ?? [03:30] ajmitch: huh? ofcourse. I verify that bddebian rocks! couldn't have done it without reading ;-) [03:30] Hmm, actually I think someone (ajmitch?) already finished off gl-117, kmatplot, and lightspeed?? [03:30] bddebian: no, not me [03:30] you could check the sig on breezy changes to see [03:30] bddebian: dholbach [03:30] Ohh, rockin' [03:31] Heya slomo [03:31] slomo: Have you ever gotten your upload rights? [03:31] bddebian: i don't know ;) nobody told me anything so i think the answer is no... i will probably get them together with you :) [03:32] slomo: Well I may never get them. I annoy elmo about as much as I annoy tseng :-) [03:32] bddebian: you _don't_ rock! [03:32] Uh oh [03:32] :-( [03:33] What'd I do? [03:33] bddebian: I need a pastebin, hold on ;-) [03:33] bddebian: i annoy elmo too ;) [03:33] bddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2024 [03:34] I wasn't sure if all that config.* crap even needed to be there [03:35] slomo: Did he ever sync your childsplay? [03:35] yes, childsplay is in [03:35] ouch, that's one messy rejection [03:35] One reason I prefer just diff over debdiff at times :-) [03:36] bddebian: childsplay? [03:36] bddebian: debdiff is what works [03:36] slomo: Isn't that what you wanted elmo to sync or am I on crack again? [03:36] bddebian: if you break it, then it's a bigger problem [03:37] bddebian: nope... i want ffmpeg and some other stuff in multiverse and some other binary packages deleted ;) [03:37] ajmitch: Break what? [03:37] slomo: Oh sorry. [03:38] bddebian: np :) [03:38] bddebian: you break the world [03:38] and everyone cries [03:39] ajmitch? [03:39] Nah I just break the Universe!! ;-P [03:40] Nafallo: Want me to fix that debdiff? === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-10-89.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] Hello LaserJock, how's it coming? [03:41] well, I have some questions about ghemical [03:42] I worked through dependecies and such today at work and found that ghemical depends on libghemical [03:43] now, libghemical is in Debian unstable along with the version of ghemical that has the unmet dep [03:43] LaserJock: and? [03:43] so basically, if we took the .debs from Debian unstable I think everything would be fine [03:44] LaserJock: Have you tried to build the Debian unstable version? [03:44] the problem is that the current version is failing to build [03:45] (last version that built is 1.1) [03:45] we have 1.5 in source [03:45] well, that's the thing. I think that they are missing a dep and really we need to bump the version of ghemical up [03:45] and its failign to build be of libghemical-dev [03:45] we need 1.9 to get gtk2 [03:45] LaserJock: ooh [03:45] LaserJock: thatd be cool [03:45] .. [03:45] where the hell does libghemical come from [03:45] or is that a package we need to sync [03:45] thats new [03:46] bddebian: I won't touch it before you tell me you've done that ;-) [03:46] Nafallo: Can I just hack out that garbage or did I actually do something wrong? [03:46] Nafallo: Can you look at the drscheme one in the mean time? [03:46] LaserJock: only 1.5 is in debian [03:47] well, I found that to get ghemical 1.9 (or 1.5) we need libghemical. and to get libghemical we need mopac7 (in Debian unstable), mpqc (in ubuntu), and libopenbabel(also in ubuntu) [03:47] bddebian: no idea :-). I just saw alot of patches failing :-P [03:47] ok i see [03:48] LaserJock: so yes, we wneed to sync libghemical [03:48] in other words, if we just want ghemical 1.5 we just need to get libghemical from Debian unstable [03:48] rigt [03:48] so we just need to ask elmo [03:48] i can do that if you like [03:48] but, the libghemical in Debian I think has a fatal flaw because it doesn't use MOPAC7 wich is pretty neccesary for it to be useful [03:49] oh? [03:49] LaserJock: does it just need a build-dep or what [03:50] well, it is a flag in the compilation that they haven't set [03:50] how much functionality does this remove? [03:50] a lot [03:50] basically, I wouldn't use it if it didn't have it [03:50] i used to use this program [03:50] it was rather nifty [03:51] mopac7 is the molecular mechanics part. mpqc is the quantum mechanical part [03:51] ah [03:51] without mopact you could look at your molecules, but you couldn't do much with them [03:51] right [03:52] what package is that in? [03:52] libopenbabel? [03:52] the thing is, mopac7 is in Debian unstable so I don't know why they didn't use it [03:52] it is just mopac7 [03:52] ooh i see [03:52] the old ghemical had it built in I think [03:53] well [03:53] i'll try get them [03:53] and build them [03:53] and see what happens [03:54] ah, azeem is the ghemical maintainer [03:54] interesting [03:55] well, I'm building them currently with pbuilder [03:55] I am just trying to get the hang of this packaging thing :-) [03:55] hehe === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] pbuildering will b ea little fun [03:55] cus you have to stuck in the new mopac7 packages [03:55] i have no idea how to do that [03:56] me neither [03:56] looks like the maintainer of ghemical is gone for the night [03:56] otherwise you could ask him about it [03:56] hi all [03:56] what about bumping the version up to 0.9? The problem is that it is not in Debian. [03:57] what isnt in debian? [03:57] 0.9 [03:57] of ghemical [03:57] 0.9 of whwat [03:57] oh [03:57] is it needed? [03:57] 1.9 i assume you mean [03:57] LaserJock: so file a bug in debian [03:57] well, it is gtk2 instead of gtk1 [03:57] well, thats not -needed- [03:57] LaserJock: probably best to have a achat to the maintainer [03:57] ask why mopac isnt used [03:57] and why 1.9 isnt there [03:58] yeah, ok [04:00] How the hell do you troubleshoot patching problems?? :-( [04:00] bddebian: you don't, you fix them ;) [04:00] bddebian: haha [04:00] well, mopac7 from debian unstable built in pbuilder and installed ok, I think [04:00] bd whats the problem [04:00] LaserJock: yeh here too === Lathiat now builds libghemical [04:00] Lathiat: Just fuzz/fail stuff but it makes no sense [04:01] bddebian: patch probably isnt in the right patch level? [04:01] and if theres like files with the same name it will get confused [04:01] patches need to be from the root of the tree [04:01] Everything succeeded but the debian/rules portion [04:06] ajmitch: Well how do I "fix" them then??? [04:08] bddebian: depends on what's wrong [04:08] I usually just look over it by eye [04:08] sometimes it's tab/space mixups [04:08] I am and it looks correct [04:09] Ohhh, a tab maybe.. Hmm [04:10] Lathiat: so should I email the Debian maintainer, Michael Banck? [04:11] LaserJock: yes, could be best to file a wishlist bug [04:11] in debian [04:14] well, I got libghemical built and installed [04:15] is there a way with pbuilder to build a package when one of the dependencies is something that is not in the repos? [04:16] ajmitch: OK, I fixed the tab/space issue but same errors :-( [04:17] LaserJock: best way is to put them in a local repository yourself, and reference that repository from within pbuilder [04:17] which take a bit of tweaking [04:17] hmm, so would it be easier to do it without pbuilder? [04:20] maybe [04:21] Ah-ha [04:21] Is succeeded with FUZZ X OK? [04:26] Nafallo: Still here? [04:28] bddebian: yepp :-( [04:28] s/:-(/:-)/ [04:28] :-) [04:28] Nafallo: Would you mind trying pointless again? [04:28] bddebian: nope :-) [04:29] You are a man of many words ;-) [04:29] bddebian: debdiff on the same place? :-) [04:29] Aye [04:29] bddebian: it's just that it's feels pointless ;-) [04:30] lol [04:30] hehe, only fuzz on debian/rules now :-P === Nafallo kicks pdebuild [04:33] dpkg-buildpackage: source package is pointless [04:33] dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.5-5ubuntu3 [04:33] dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Barry deFreese [04:33] fakeroot debian/rules clean [04:33] debian/rules:36: *** missing separator. Stop. [04:33] lol! [04:33] :-) [04:33] yay [04:34] probably spaces instead of tab or somethin similar ;) [04:34] as said before [04:34] Bah fuxx0r === Nafallo kicks of again ;-) [04:38] patching file src/primitive.h [04:38] Hunk #1 FAILED at 106. [04:38] 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/primitive.h.rej [04:38] make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1 [04:38] bddebian: could you run it through a pbuilder next time please? :-P [04:38] I guess the clean target doesn't properly unpatch === Nafallo finds pointless pointless till barry runned it through his own pbuilder ;-) === ajmitch waits for the preview installer to download [04:44] This frickin' sucks === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] Nafallo: Did you happen to try the drscheme debdiff? [05:01] bddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2026 [05:02] bddebian: are you testing your stuff in pbuilder? [05:02] fuck === ajmitch always uses pbuilder on the .dsc created === Nafallo usually does pdebuild and debsign [05:04] I don't care to sign unbuildable stuff :-P [05:06] pdebuild makes the tree dirty === ajmitch does debuild -S first, then uses that .dsc [05:06] what's the diffrence? [05:07] pbuilder build builds out of tree [05:07] unpacks it in the location specified by your config === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] This is utter bullshit [05:09] bddebian: but so much fun === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-123-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] how can i submit our package into the repos? [05:11] what package? [05:11] nzbget [05:11] the general procedure is to put it up for review [05:12] on sourceforge [05:12] and we give you feedback, get things fixed, and once it's ready, it can be imported [05:12] "As of 2004-10-08 10:20, this project is no longer under active development. " [05:12] that doesn't look promising at all [05:13] can some PLEASE help me fix this soI understand wtf is going on?? [05:13] ajmitch, hehe [05:13] ajmitch, actually that was set by the old maintainer [05:13] ok, so it's being worked on again? [05:13] ajmitch, yes, we just release new versions recently [05:13] yeah, good [05:14] so is there a package built for it? [05:14] 0.2.3 sept 5, 2005 [05:14] a debian package, that is [05:14] ajmitch, i have not built a deb, dont know how you guys run that process [05:14] I see tarballs there [05:14] ok [05:15] either you could learn it, or put up some details on wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates to ask for people to package it :) [05:15] however that list is fairly long [05:15] ajmitch, learn it? you mean actually writing the deb file by hand? [05:15] ajmitch, isnt there a util to package it up? [05:16] there are ways to help you get started [05:16] but you still need to tailor it to your package [05:16] ajmitch, is there an online HOWTO or something [05:17] eg https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingTips [05:17] ajmitch, how long from submitting it for review to getting it in there officially? [05:17] Debian New Maintainer's guide is a start [05:17] khermans: depends on how much work it needs [05:17] it may not get in for breezy, depending on how busy we are, too [05:18] ajmitch, thx for info -- will investigate and come back later dude :-) [05:18] ok [05:19] OK, who do I have to beg, what do I have to do??? :'-( [05:20] bddebian: me tomorrow when no one else wanted to until then ;) [05:20] gn8 everybody :) [05:20] slomo: night [05:20] Gnight slomo [05:21] bddebian: I'm free in maybe 2 hours to sit down & help out [05:21] but I guess you'll be gone by then [05:21] Probably :-( [05:26] debian BSP coming up this weekend [05:26] so we might be able to merge a few fixes === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] yay, might get pam 0.79 in unstable soon, it's the other main part i want for selinux [05:30] hello rob^ [05:31] hi ajmitch === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-10-89.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:57] OK I think I almost have it. What is malformed patch at line 80 mean? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] Bah, I give up for the night. Gnight folks. === tim1_ [n=Tim@dsl-084-058-195-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [n=niran@sabin.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elbi [n=elbi@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] hi guys does anyone knows how is /lib/modules/ is generated ? by what program ? === robitaille has been wondering about these /lib/modules/...errors on the console in breezy [09:04] robitaille, video/console modules? [09:05] yes [09:05] eh then you know how are those generated ? i am making initrd and in my kernel module fs , there is no ext3 [09:06] does that mean my kernel won't support ext3 ? [09:06] wickedpuppy, dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r), and you'll see that the modules are in that package [09:06] eh no .. i downloaded kernel source from kernel.org and using genkernel to make kernel + initrd [09:07] you're not happy with ubuntu kernel images or kernel source? === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] nope my work requires me to build a live cd with specific kernel [09:07] ok [09:07] thats why [09:08] if not use /vmlinuz [09:08] bed time === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:19] morning folks [09:19] ajmitch: I'm now off for a week, holidays. [09:20] ajmitch: can you please ask elmo about syncing darcs from unstable? I verified it builds in breezy [09:20] thank you, and have a great week, folks! === StrikeForceWork [n=marc@dsl-202-72-174-149.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-111-076.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForceWork is now known as StrikeForce-Work === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn228-075.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] good morning [09:27] hi dholbach [09:29] hey robitaille :) === StrikeForce-Work is now known as strikeforce-work === strikeforce-work is now known as Strikeforce-work === Strikeforce-work [n=marc@dsl-202-72-174-149.wa.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === StrikeForce_work [n=marc@dsl-202-72-174-149.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] hi dholbach [09:49] hey andrew [09:49] how are you? [09:49] i'm fine, thanks :) [09:49] how are you? :) [09:49] almost alive [09:49] but it's friday night here [09:50] so I'm allowed to sleep soon ;) [09:51] hehe [09:52] what have you been up to this week? [09:53] i uploaded the new gnome with seb, reviewed a couple of packages, did some bits of bug triage === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] great === ajmitch tries to think if he did any ubuntu stuff.. === jsgotangco thinks as well [09:56] well I know I made a few uploads [09:56] & bug closing [09:56] you absolutely did [09:56] & debian uploads [09:57] & unfinished meeting minutes :) [10:01] i just bummed around [10:34] Mithrandir: ping? [10:35] pong === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] Mithrandir: is there any ia32-lib universe package? [11:21] sigh, I got the rejection email already [11:22] torkel: there's ia32-libs in main === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] Mithrandir: I need to run a HP 32-bit only binary (cli for Smart Array) on an AMD64, that depends on libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 which comes from universe :-( [11:24] torkel: you could just download the i386 deb and unpack that in the right place === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] Mithrandir: yeah. Guess I'm just lazy :-) [11:25] torkel: I really don't want to create more ia32-libs-style packages; they're hideous [11:26] Mithrandir: yeah [11:27] just thought I should ask :-) === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] hi koke [11:37] hi all! :) [11:37] how are you? [11:38] hey koke [11:38] how's it going? [11:38] hey [11:38] dholbach! :) [11:41] well, playing with rubyonrails :) === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-088-248.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.65.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] <\sh> moins [12:36] hey \sh [12:37] <\sh> just eating sth...coming back from tax department :( [12:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting-2005-09-07 [12:38] please fix up & add in comments before I send it out :) [12:39] <\sh> go from me very good [12:41] there was a meeting 2 days ago? [12:41] bah [12:41] Lathiat: yes.. [12:41] <\sh> wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar ;) [12:41] Lathiat: well it was at 6am your time, again ;) [12:41] so you probably would have still been up [12:41] you mean 4am [12:42] thing is, i proabably was up ;p [12:42] 22:00UTC? [12:47] ok, updated with names of people who were present [12:48] (judging solely by names of people who spoke up at least once) ;) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch updates the calendar for the bug love day [12:54] any volunteers to send out the mail & organise this bug day in a week? [12:55] <\sh> bddebian volunteered, right? [12:55] not that I saw [12:55] I'll ask him when I see him [12:55] <\sh> i don't recall this issue [12:56] no, but we need to get onto it in the next couple of days :) [12:56] I can write up an email, I guess [12:56] <\sh> ok...yeah..we will ;) [12:57] ubuntu-users & ubuntu-devel, who else needs to hear? [12:57] <\sh> kubuntu-devel? === ajmitch hopes the main guys don't get annoyed by a flood of new bugs [12:57] <\sh> hehe [12:58] but I think the community running a bug day should be reasonable [12:58] there's a debian one this weekend === herzi [n=herzi@c197214.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] <\sh> ogra: ping is it ok with tomorrow? :) [01:00] \sh, sure :) [01:00] <\sh> cool [01:03] bug day, nice. :) [01:04] But rather have people go through the list of NEED INFO bugs, so they can actually get fixed for a change? [01:05] People report bugs, but register with email accounts they don't check, spamfilter eats bugzilla mails, so a lot of bugs stay open indefinatly waiting for some useful information. [01:05] HiddenWolf: we'll mainly focus on universe [01:05] since we're MOTUs [01:05] but we'll do what we can [01:05] Expand it. :) [01:06] HiddenWolf: sure, get us 10x more people with twice as much time [01:06] the same goes for malone btw. Now the number of bugs is managable. [01:06] debug the bugs. :) [01:06] we're still stretched fairly thin here :) [01:09] I know. I'd be happy to help, if I can get the time. [01:09] #ubuntu-bugs, 17th Sept [01:09] details will follow in a mail in the next day or two :) [01:10] Ugh, I've got a party and a dentists appointment on the 16th. I guess I'll be busted. :) [01:11] HiddenWolf: you'll be fine ;) [01:11] we'll still have plenty of work in the days following [01:11] ajmitch, I'm not a programmer just yet, trying to be tho. ;) [01:12] you don't need to be a programmer to follow up on bugs [01:12] I know, I'm browsing bugzilla now. [01:16] filing and following up on random people's bugs. [01:17] ok [01:17] good to hear :) [01:21] Well yeah, there are bugs open that everyone has noticed, but still up as NEED INFO. That's just dumb. [01:21] NEEDINFO in order to solve === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] We'd have ntp timing out on all pc's with a bit of latency due to the original reporter not following up with the requested information, for example. === \sh needs something to decrease the blood pressure.. === ajmitch needs a drink [01:27] godd morning ;) [01:27] hi slomo [01:27] how are you? [01:28] extremly tired :/ i better get back to bed later ;) [01:29] heh [01:30] stayed up too late last night? === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] yes... 5:XY and i'm awake since 10:00 because of some people working to loud in the neighborhood :/ [01:32] btw... what happened to breezy-changes? almost nothing the laster hours... [01:33] slomo, preview freeze, bugfix modes. :) [01:34] oh... no, broken fetchmail :) there were some changes ;) === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] party on in flat next door, I won't be getting any sleep for awhile [01:37] <\sh> ajmitch: me needs a drink as well.. [01:38] yeah, for different reason :) [01:39] can anyone here give me a rundown on how to get a decent backtrace? [01:47] HiddenWolf: The trick is often to get it to die before it dies. [01:48] backtraces in gdb often have the problem that they're trying to get the information *after* the stack has already been corrupted. [01:49] use 'break' to set the breakpoint at some time when you know it works, then get it closer and closer to the mark that you want, and step/next until you get to the failure point and can see what's happening. === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa73.1.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] hello ! [02:20] morning pef. [02:20] Nafallo: thanks for uploading my debdiffs :) [02:20] pef: no problem :-). but poker3d didn't build here. [02:21] hi pef, Nafallo [02:22] morning ajmitch :-) [02:22] so what should I work on now? [02:22] since I won't be getting any sleep [02:22] ajmitch: hello :) [02:23] Nafallo: within pbuilder ? [02:23] pef: yes, something about bad libX something. I could run it again ;-) === Nafallo kicks pbuilder off === ivoks [n=ivoks@master.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] hi ivoks [02:24] colony4 doesn't boot on one 30 computers! [02:24] on 30, not one :) [02:24] tried preview? [02:25] no [02:25] what doesn't work? [02:25] it detects disks and stops [02:25] kernel freezes [02:25] hm [02:25] nasty [02:25] sata disks [02:25] but, netboot works [02:25] test preview, file bugs :) [02:25] with netboot i have another problem - doesn't support yukon ethernet :) [02:25] I think there was stuff fixed about that before preview [02:25] aha [02:26] where is preview? [02:26] jbailey: ping [02:26] releases.ubuntu.com, iirc [02:27] slomo: pong [02:27] jeff! :) [02:27] andrew! [02:27] ivoks: CC.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ [02:27] ok [02:28] Nafallo is that http? [02:28] ivoks: yes [02:28] ivoks: and CC = CountryCode :-) [02:28] lol [02:28] jbailey: i can't plug a serial cable into the ibook... it has no serial interface ;) but are you sure the drivers are not built into the kernel? the first message about a ramdisk is in the line over the panic where it says incomplete write (or when that is fixed) found ramdisk at block 0 or something similar [02:28] \sh: ping [02:29] <\sh> Nafallo: pong [02:29] \sh: got any changes for gajim? [02:29] \sh: I'm planning to add sv.po ;-) === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] <\sh> Nafallo: no :( [02:31] <\sh> Nafallo: do it ;) [02:31] pef: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2041 [02:31] \sh: :-) [02:32] Nafallo: thanks ! === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable227.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] Nafallo: works for me and builds into pbuilder, strange :] [02:35] pef: hmm :-/ [02:36] Nafallo there is no hr.releases :) and no uk.releases [02:36] i'm using jigdo now :/ === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] i'm afraid this is useless... i'm sure installation kernel doesn't support yukon ethernet... [02:38] ivoks: well, uk is releases.ubuntu.com. I thought you knew the datacenter was UK? :-) [02:39] ivoks: se. has 2.4Gbit/s IIRC ;-) [02:39] Nafallo hm... then it's too slow... [02:39] thanks [02:40] <\sh> ivoks: what about yukon? [02:40] np :-) [02:40] <\sh> ivoks: marvel yukon sk98lin driver are not in the kernel, will never be...they're rewriting the stuff and skge runs only with some yukons === jroes [i=jroes@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] eh.. [02:42] :( [02:42] i have yukon cards here [02:42] and wanted to do kickstart install [02:42] without CD [02:42] <\sh> ivoks: so u have to tweak your initrd just like me for the r200 [02:42] damn... [02:42] \sh could you guide me on that? [02:42] i know how to do it [02:42] but every time i get kernel panic :) [02:43] <\sh> ivoks: you compile the upstream sk98lin drivers as patch into your kernel [02:43] <\sh> 2.6.12 it is [02:43] i even compiled kernel with yukon driver [02:43] ok, did that [02:44] <\sh> with the orig yukon driver in the kernel? skge doesn't work ;) u need the drivers from syskonnect [02:44] it works with this driver [02:44] <\sh> ok.... [02:44] i had linux on this machines before [02:44] <\sh> then... [02:44] <\sh> do it as module ;) [02:44] ok [02:45] <\sh> copy the initrd.gz from /install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz to a better place [02:45] <\sh> then gunzip initrd.gz [02:45] <\sh> mkdir initrdmntpoint [02:45] mount :) [02:45] <\sh> sudo mount -o loop initrd initrdmntpoint === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] <\sh> cp /skge.ko initrdmntpoint/lib/modules/2.6.12-*/kernel/drivers/net//skge.ko [02:46] <\sh> umount initrdmntpoint [02:46] <\sh> gzip initrd [02:46] <\sh> cp initrd.gz /install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz [02:46] ah... [02:46] i tought i can't write to initrd :) [02:46] silly me [02:46] <\sh> its a ramdisk ;) [02:47] i mixed it up with iso :) [02:47] eh... Makefile should produce -8-386 [02:47] <\sh> no [02:48] <\sh> u have to adjust the Makefile [02:48] right [02:48] or do append version in kernel [02:48] <\sh> adjust the makefile...so the module version symbols are ok.. [02:48] thanks [02:48] <\sh> but i needed it the last time with 2.6.12-3 /-4 [02:48] <\sh> after this no more [02:49] thanks for the initrd trick [02:49] <\sh> it's a bad hack dude [02:49] other stuff i know allready [02:50] <\sh> officially ubuntu doesn't work with new marvel yukons :( which are in need of the syskonnect driver, but as fabbione said: it's a mess to integrate this filth into the kernel...and they're rewriting sk98lin from scratch [02:50] <\sh> ;) [02:50] np [02:50] but for some, driver that is in kernel, works [02:51] \sh did you try install with kickstart? [02:51] <\sh> ivoks: pxe boot [02:51] yes [02:52] on other machines everything vent fine [02:52] <\sh> ivoks: pxe is booting via dhcp and tftpd [02:52] except, i had to partition it manually [02:52] <\sh> but to pull the packages from the install media I need a network connection for the apache connect [02:52] \sh yes, and then you add something like ks=http://somewhere/ks.cfg [02:52] <\sh> if you want preseeding [02:53] <\sh> i do a normal install via pxe [02:53] i do... it's 30 machines :) [02:53] no, make that 50 [02:53] <\sh> but you can adjust the partioning in the preseed file [02:53] 30 aren't working :) [02:53] i did [02:53] that's the problem... [02:53] <\sh> u explained it on -devel? [02:53] no, i tried today [02:54] i have to test it one more time [02:55] tryed [02:56] ah, i know where is problem === sjmorgan [n=simon@bollo.16hz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] there are two partitions... not free space on disk [02:57] is this the place to ask questions about multiverse or just universe? [02:57] so, it couldn't create partitions [02:57] sjmorgan about development? [02:57] well i have 2 questions, 1 of which is about multiverse [02:58] i'm wondering where the mplayer packages have gone basically [02:58] there only seems to be one for amd64 [02:58] i'm using breezy btw [02:59] sjmorgan mplayer-586 [02:59] not just mplayer [03:00] hrrm weird, but thanks [03:00] i did an apt-cache search mplayer and got nothing === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] try again [03:01] wtf [03:01] 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu7 0 [03:01] 1200 http://10.18.1.1 breezy/multiverse Packages [03:01] works for me(tm) [03:01] yeah it works here now :/ [03:01] yes I have weird apt pinning ;) [03:01] well my other question is would it be possible to pull in quodlibet 0.12 from debian? [03:02] i'm assuming that's where you source it from [03:02] panic [03:02] preview doesn't work too :) [03:02] ? === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089D2AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter-mc [n=lorenzo@adsl-ull-196-176.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter-mc [n=lorenzo@adsl-ull-196-176.41-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Sto] === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] <\sh> ok...i will sleep for 1 1/2 hour...my system has to calm down ;-) === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info1-171.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.5.62] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] Heya [03:55] hey bddebian :) [03:55] hello bddebian [03:55] Morning dholbach, ajmitch [03:57] So which of you have time to help me fix this fscking debdiff? :) [03:58] it's only 2am here, why not? [03:58] ajmitch: have a beer === ajmitch has nothing better to do on a friday night [03:58] jsgotangco: I think I might need one :) === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] let us drown ourselvess ia sea of debauchey [03:58] ajmitch: 2am is that all? :-) [03:58] jsgotangco: heh [03:59] bddebian: yeah, I'm lying in bed using the laptop === ajmitch wonders if there's any beer in the fridge [04:00] bddebian: so do you have a debdiff for me to look at? === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn228-075.dsl.ligado.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch guesses bddebian is in family-mode ;) [04:06] ajmitch: SOrry, actually "work" mode :-) [04:06] ah ok [04:06] ajmitch: http://www.bddebian.com/packages/ubuntu/pointless/ [04:06] wasn't sure if you'd be at work yet or not [04:07] the debdiff itself would have been nicer :P [04:07] It's the only file in that dir, sheesh [04:08] http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/pointless/pointless_0.5-5ubuntu3.debdiff [04:08] yes, so I had to open firefox, copy url, go to terminal, paste url to wget :) [04:08] That's what I do :-) [04:08] ugh [04:08] ugh? === ajmitch is already in terminal for irc [04:10] ok [04:10] patching file pointless-0.5/debian/control [04:10] patching file pointless-0.5/debian/rules [04:10] Hunk #1 succeeded at 31 with fuzz 2. [04:10] Hunk #2 succeeded at 49 with fuzz 1. [04:10] patching file pointless-0.5/debian/patches/gcc4_build_fix.patch [04:10] patch: **** malformed patch at line 82: [04:10] that's what you're getting at the moment, right? [04:11] ajmitch: Yes :'-( [04:12] fun === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch will try & get it working.. [04:14] ok, splitdiff still gives a malformed patch [04:16] ok, fixed that part [04:16] must have been a missing line of context, because adjusting the +1,15 to +1,14 worked === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] have to see if it builds now :) [04:19] ok, patch fails, no huge surprises there === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] ajmitch: What do you mean no surprise?? :-( [04:21] bddebian: well the patch would probably have been broken in debian/patches [04:21] so fixing the debdiff doesn't mean I fixed the other patch [04:23] The patch works, just the diff is b0rked for some reason. :-( [04:23] nah [04:23] I checked the patch in the BTS against your one [04:24] differing tab/space [04:24] so I've stuck that one in & it's working === ajmitch does a test build to make sure [04:29] bddebian: good news is that it builds cleanly [04:29] ajmitch: I originally did this with the patch from BTS [04:30] well it got munged [04:30] want me to upload now? === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.65.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] So, is there any motu-specific documentation for the starting programmer? :) [04:32] you don't need to be a programmer to do MOTU work [04:33] it's mainly packaging [04:33] some scripting involved, sometimes fixing buggy code.. [04:33] HiddenWolf: It's just slave labor.. ;-P [04:33] ajmitch, it helps if you understand at least the basics, I presume. :) [04:33] bddebian: essentially [04:33] bddebian, I'm familiar with the concept, thanks. :) [04:33] ajmitch: Sure, please but I really need to understand why it didn't work since I seem to have a similar problem with the patch I did for drscheme [04:34] there are a number of wiki pages like PackagingTips, MOTUWannabeTips [04:34] ajmitch, so where do I start? === ajmitch points above [04:34] at this stage we're mainly fixing up as many packages as we can before release [04:35] lists of stuff to do on MOTUTodo [04:35] You guys should have a start page, much like /UserDocumentation [04:35] HiddenWolf: Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps for work but the two wiki's that ajmitch pointed out [04:35] HiddenWolf: feel free to write one, like /MOTU ? [04:35] 2 of the urls listed so far are in the topic [04:35] ajmitch, I'm planning an /ThingsThatChaseMeFromUbuntuLinux ;) [04:36] HiddenWolf: ok [04:36] I was sorely tempted for an rm -rf / yesterday. [04:36] why? [04:37] OOo choked on a critical .ppt, and I couldn't get evince to work nicely with any of my school's pdfs so far. [04:37] aha [04:37] I'm missing features, and my printer is mising half it's functionality. [04:39] Starting next week I'll have 3/4 lectures a week with 20-40 sheets a piece. Either in ppt or in pdf. I need to be able to print those, preferably 4-8 a page. [04:39] Can't have OOO choke on the excel sheets that explain economical theory either... [04:39] heh, fun :) [04:39] sadly, it's not in our area of fixits [04:40] ajmitch, I know. [04:40] OOO is just a POS that should be banned, as far as I'm concerned. poppler is so buggy that I can't believe they use it as default evince backend. [04:40] And Cups, what shall I say... [04:41] sending a job to my printer, and not popping up errors, yet not reaching the printer either. That's just sad. [04:42] I can print now, as long as I stick to 1 page/page and non-duplex, which isn't what I got the printer for. :P === ajmitch checks to see if this channel is #ubuntu-rant now [04:42] ajmitch, no, that's where I go loose. ;) [04:42] haha [04:42] I'd love to see that one ;) [04:44] *g* === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] Nafallo: pbuilder log of poker3d http://dev.erodia.net/tmp/poker3d_pbuilder.log [04:56] poker3d.. w00t [04:57] huh ? [04:57] pef_aw: strange, I'll kick it again after blam :-) [04:58] pef: Hey, I hope you don't mind me looking at pointless and drscheme [04:59] bddebian: I'm back from work, I'm looking at rightly now :) [04:59] pef: I think ajmitch may have uploaded the pointless fix already [05:00] not yet [05:00] will do now [05:00] Ohh [05:00] Got to install some software, bbiam [05:01] ok, so I look for drscheme === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c197214.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] have to leave again :/ [05:22] night all [05:22] bye [05:22] night ajmitch :) === rwabel [n=rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-133-252.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] <\sh> re [05:28] <\sh> grmpf...dircproxy restart === \sh [n=sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] Heya \sh [05:33] <\sh> hey bddebian [05:34] <\sh> brb === StrikeForce [n=marc@dsl-202-72-163-232.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] HiddenWolf: nice wiki page heh [05:42] jsgotangco, yeah, I'll update it with my own experience in a bit, but yesterday I figured out that cups, evince and OOO make me totally unproductive. [05:42] i was like wtf at the start [05:43] but i was reading it a bit.. [05:43] Before classes started, for one subject, I had about 20 .docs, pdfs and ppt/xls to go over. Evince and OOo didn't like that. [05:47] <\sh> ok..what do i need for this evening? some beer...some pringles....iron maiden....and emacs [05:48] <\sh> that means I have to hurry to the shop [05:48] \sh: make that use_gpg_agent-option for Gajim graphical :-) [05:49] <\sh> Nafallo: I want to integrate launchpad stuff this evening and then tweaking the ui [05:49] <\sh> it's weekend ;) [05:49] \sh: rock on, I'll probably be her to help out. deps: girlfriends mood ;-) [05:51] <\sh> Nafallo: don't worry...gf comes first ,-) === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mort_ [n=moritz@217-162-19-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] <\sh> k...hurring to the shop ;) [05:54] \sh: Emacs?? WTF. Nano baby ;-) === shackan [i=shackan@ppp-37-55.26-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] he's only paying homage to the one true editor [05:56] heh [05:56] bddebian: nano? what do you want to do with nano? ;) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-206-96.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] slomo: nano r0x j00 baby ;-) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0990.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] heah guys, I got a reply from the Debian ghemical maintainer [06:00] check out spam i got today :) [06:00] From: webmaster@ubuntu.com [06:00] To: ivoks@ubuntu.com [06:00] LaserJock: And? [06:00] :) [06:00] ivoks: lol :) what was written in the mail? [06:01] ivoks: Nice one :-) [06:01] Dear user ivoks, [06:01] You have successfully updated the password of your Ubuntu account. [06:01] :) [06:01] If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Ubuntu customer service at: webmaster@ubuntu.com [06:01] hahah [06:01] hmm [06:01] i haven't received any ubuntu spam yet [06:01] let's see where did it came from [06:02] hm [06:02] lol! [06:02] pcchip, croatian magazine :) [06:02] He said the MOPAC wasn't built into libghemcial because it didn't play well with gcc-4.0 and said that he had looked at the latest version of ghemical (1.9) briefly but didn't have much success [06:02] oh, now they'll hear me :) [06:02] nice [06:03] <\sh> back [06:03] <\sh> i hope it will rain tonight..this humidity is evil [06:03] \sh++ :) [06:04] <\sh> slomo: prost :) [06:04] ah, you have a beer now too? ;) [06:05] <\sh> yeah...and just I start emacs ,) [06:05] \sh: prost :) [06:05] I think I might try to fiddle around with the Debian source packages for mopac and libghemical today at work. I was able to get both of them to build with pbuilder last night but I want to see if I can get the MOPAC support built into libghemical. [06:05] what do you want to do with emacs? just fixing some stuff? [06:05] <\sh> slomo: hacking gajim ;) [06:06] \sh: what exactly? :) [06:06] <\sh> launchpad integration [06:07] good idea... did you and Nafallo convice the devs that launchpad is useful for them? ;) [06:07] <\sh> slomo: I think they understood..they're only a bit pissed because of their not imported .po files [06:09] \sh: hmm... but they are imported now afaik ;) https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+translations [06:10] <\sh> nice :() [06:10] Is there a reason why libghemical is not in universe? === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] LaserJock: no idea... probably just forgotten... maybe tell elmo about it or something [06:13] hmm, ok. I think that ghemical would be fixed (kinda) if we got libghemical built [06:14] <\sh> slomo: they're ok with it :) [06:15] <\sh> slomo: you can join them on gajim@conferences.jabber.no ;) [06:15] \sh: i know... i was there yesterday :) [06:15] \sh: he talked to them about avahi :-) [06:15] <\sh> ah ;) [06:25] ok, dumb question. I can't find any contact info (email address) for elmo? Does anybody have that? [06:27] LaserJock: tried elmo@ubuntu.com? [06:27] no, doh [06:27] Actually I think it's james.troup@... [06:29] ok, thanks guys === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-206-96.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:38] <\sh> ok...dchroot and compile gajim === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] <\sh> gnarf...76MB to update [06:40] current version of dhcdbd in universe has some nasty security issues and i found a new upstream version in fedoras srpms which i just packaged for ubuntu http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/dhcdbd_1.8-0ubuntu1_source.changes [06:40] should i dput it to revu? [06:40] <\sh> what is dhcdbd? [06:40] oh and how can i remove something from revu? dpull? [06:41] <\sh> archive [06:41] j^: tell some motu to remove it ;) what do you want to be removed? [06:41] dhcdbd provides a dbus interface to dhclient, so applications such as [06:41] NetworkManager can query and control dhclient. [06:41] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=561 since i have a new version 1.8 i would rather upload [06:42] code wise the biggest change is a new dbus system.d file which does not allow everything to everyone [06:42] <\sh> j^: problem is..if network manager is ever hitting main...dhcpbd needs to go to main too [06:42] j^: just upload the new version... revu will handle this [06:42] \sh true, still current version has a security bugt [06:42] slomo ok === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] \sh im also fine with sending patches, or just pointing out that a newer version its at http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ [06:44] its rather confusing to have universe packages that are not universe packages because they might end up in main at some point [06:45] and thus its not possible to fix bugs in them [06:45] <\sh> j^: why? the issue is only: nothing in main can depend on packages in universe [06:45] \sh ???? [06:46] \sh network-manager depends on dhcdbd [06:46] also the broken version in universe [06:46] and it will always depend on it === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0990.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] <\sh> j^: network-manager is also universe....but if you want to bring network-manager to main, all dependencies have to be in main as well [06:48] \sh sure, but thats not relevant here === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] <\sh> j^: not now ;) [06:49] nm is.. ah... [06:49] <\sh> ivoks: fire ... [06:49] network manager hangs if laptop is put to sleep [06:49] you have to restart dbus and kill -9 nm-applet [06:50] \sh i do not see how it will ever an issue. my changes fix a bug in dhcdbd, which is a package n-m depends on [06:50] that's why i give up it [06:50] it's easier to use wifi-radar and restart it on every resume [06:51] ivoks might be a problem with your wireless driver [06:51] j^: it isn't [06:51] j^: works with wifi-radar [06:51] and iwconfig sees network [06:51] nm does work fine here with my orinoco_pci card [06:51] only nm losees it [06:51] ivoks still in most cases wifi drivers are broken [06:51] j^: and after you put your laptop to sleep/resume? [06:52] j^: S3 sleep [06:52] j^: this is ipw2200 [06:52] broken [06:52] maybe [06:52] but in this case problem isn't in driver [06:52] cause all other wifi tools are working [06:52] after resume... only nm crashes [06:53] no [06:53] nm might be more demanding, but its the driver that is broken [06:53] ok [06:53] nobody of the driver devs argues about that [06:53] anyway, it's unusable for me [06:53] its just that they need to be fixed [06:53] possible [06:54] i would like only for ethernet [06:54] http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm-ipw2200.shtml might have some info [06:54] signal level isn't important for me [06:55] usabilty is :) [06:55] which version of the driver do you use? [06:55] latest [06:56] acctually [06:56] \sh: how is you gajim work going? :) [06:56] those that comes with -8-686 [06:56] j^: i never had any problems with it [06:56] j^: it even works better than in windows :) [06:56] ivoks i never had such a card, so i hever had problems with it too :) [06:56] j^: integrated chipset :) [06:57] j^: is your wifi on laptop? [06:57] ivoks yes, ibm x30 [06:57] <\sh> slomo: I inserted a menuitem [06:57] j^: can you put it in S3 sleep? [06:57] ivoks sure [06:57] <\sh> slomo: i added a function for launchpad integration [06:58] <\sh> slomo: but it fails, cause it thinks it's a menu [06:58] j^: could you try it? and see if nm shows you signal after resume? [06:58] ivoks i use it very day and yes it does [06:58] heh, ok [06:58] then it doesn't work only for me :) [06:58] maybe i could try it again [06:58] you can come by if you want to check [06:58] im in zagreb right now [06:59] ? [06:59] \sh: where do you want the LP menuitems inserted? under actions? [06:59] what's the weather in zagreb? :) [06:59] <\sh> slomo: no...I inserted a _? and then Launchpad only for testing purposes [06:59] ivoks just started raining a bit [07:00] j^: and, who are you? :) [07:00] und now a beautyfull sunset [07:00] \sh: when you want i can take a look at it tomorrow :) [07:01] ivoks one of the guys with a laptop here: operacijagrad.org [07:01] <\sh> argl... [07:01] <\sh> all bullshit [07:02] i'll return === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0990.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] <\sh> g_return_if_fail (GTK_IS_MENU (helpmenu)); [07:05] <\sh> grmpf [07:05] nope... it just searches for dhcp on ethernet... [07:05] dies on wifi [07:05] <\sh> mvo told me it must be a menu item and not a menu [07:05] ivoks how long did you wait? [07:05] j^: i tailed syslog [07:05] nm told it's going to sleep [07:05] :) [07:06] hm.. [07:06] ok, let's try again [07:06] j^: what are you doing in zagreb? [07:06] it might take some time for the card to come back [07:07] <\sh> slomo: I have it ... I have to put a menu ,-) [07:07] \sh: :) [07:07] j^: it isn't a card [07:07] j^: with wifi-radar it's up before i unlock my screen [07:07] brb [07:11] powers out... === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0990.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] it's a bug in nm [07:13] if i tell it to search for my SSID, it finds it and connects [07:14] but doesn't do that automatic. [07:17] <\sh> slomo: works for me ,-) [07:17] \sh: upload then ;) [07:17] <\sh> just now...have to straighten things ,-) [07:36] <\sh> slomo: I'll provide the patch directly to upstream ;) [07:37] \sh: even better :) maybe they can put their about dialog into the ? menu too :P [07:37] <\sh> already discussed ;) [07:37] :) [07:37] <\sh> but I just shot my work [07:37] <\sh> damn [07:37] \sh: will they get a new release out in the next days? [07:37] Hmm, guess I don't have upload rights yet :-) [07:37] <\sh> anyways...again...was fast [07:37] bddebian: try it ;) probably not [07:38] slomo: I tried an upload about an hour ago ;-) [07:38] bddebian: and what happened? nothing? [07:38] Nada [07:38] ok, then you're at the same state like me :) [07:48] Mithrandir: here? [07:49] tseng: ! [07:49] how's it going? [07:49] hiya dholbach [07:49] its alright. [07:49] <\sh> slomo: dunno [07:50] dholbach: i have a bad problem with work development stuff [07:50] dholbach: a package wont build on breezy that i really need. [07:50] much to do? [07:50] oh [07:50] which one [07:50] scotty [07:50] it was dropped from debian YEARS ago [07:50] im using cvs [07:50] or, I was [07:51] dholbach: slomo is doing loads of amd64 mono love today [07:52] tseng: he told me :-D [07:52] ok so here is our current problem [07:52] stuff is getting "lost" in mono upgrades from hoary [07:52] < slomo> because then it probably makes sense... the gac stuff are just symlinks, right? so dpkg can't see that they've changed or something... mono-classlib-1.0 is installed before mono-assemblies-base gets replaced while updating hoary->breezy so probably the symlinks get removed [07:52] <\sh> ok...gajim has launchpad integration...I'll prepare a new upload...but first I want to have the opinion of upstream [07:53] does anyone have an idea of how to force dpkg to upgrade properly? [07:53] hehe [07:54] what are you talking about? [07:54] <\sh> dpkg --force-all -i ? [07:54] i meant apt, really [07:54] you call that properly? :) [07:55] dholbach: upgrading mono from hoary -> breezy [07:55] stuff used to be in mono-assemblies-base [07:55] <\sh> dholbach: works for me ,-) [07:55] now in mono-classlib-1.0 === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] m-c-1 Replaces: mono-a-b [07:55] but it doesnt handle it nicely with the symlinks [07:56] slomo found out it removes the replaced package second or something [07:57] slomo: do i have it right? [07:57] tseng: it installs mono-classlib-1.0 and then replaces m-a-b with the dummy package... so the symlinks created by m-c-1 are removed... probably [07:58] OH! [07:58] i built it [07:59] tseng: Nice [07:59] initialization failed: couldn't load file "/usr/local/lib/tnm3.0.0.so": /usr/local/lib/tnm3.0.0.so: undefined symbol: __dn_expand [07:59] almost [07:59] tseng: ? [07:59] slomo: work stuff [07:59] tseng: ah ok [07:59] slomo: i cant get this crap built on breezy [08:00] -lresolve for the win [08:01] i rock. [08:01] :) [08:02] i should make a deb [08:04] we should find a dpkg guru to help us with the mono problem ;) [08:05] slomo: No, we should send elmo some beer for our uploads ;-) [08:05] that too ;) but that's second priority now :P [08:07] slomo: definately. [08:07] slomo: What is first priority? :-) [08:07] bddebian: fixing mono updates from hoary [08:08] slomo: Anything I can help with? [08:08] <\sh> slomo: http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/899 [08:08] bddebian: see above :) can you help with this? [08:09] good bye [08:09] bye dholbach [08:10] bye dholbach :) [08:10] bye brandon, sebastian :) [08:10] Later dholbach [08:10] <\sh> dholbach: night :) have fun... === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-157.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] see youuuuuu [08:10] slomo: What does it need? :-) [08:11] <\sh> ok another beer [08:11] bddebian: dpkg love ;) currently mono-assemblies-base is updated after mono-classlib-1.0 and it has to be the other way around === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] \sh: wanna do a quick upload for me since it appears that I don't have rights yet? [08:12] slomo: Over my head, sorry. :-( [08:12] bddebian: np... it's over my head too ;) [08:13] <\sh> bddebian: fire :) [08:13] <\sh> I just updated my pbuilder ,-) === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-152.net-82-216-254.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] hello [08:13] <\sh> or wait...let me grab a beer ,-) [08:14] <\sh> now === dholbach [i=foobar@dyn228-075.dsl.ligado.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === seth_k [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-215-51.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] <\sh> gajim_0.8.2-0ubuntu3 is building ,-) [08:17] <\sh> Using Rosetta [08:17] <\sh> You need an account (free) to use it. It's very quick to make one. Visit https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+translations for more [08:17] <\sh> yes...they're using it :) [08:18] \sh: The debdiff for drscheme I posted on MOTUGLUTransitions should work now [08:18] Heya herve [08:18] \sh: wonderfull :) will they move to bzr? ;) [08:18] <\sh> slomo: slowley ;) [08:18] <\sh> lets import the head first in bzr ;) [08:18] <\sh> ah jblack...need to talk with him :) === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] \sh: where's the new gajim upload? :) [08:31] <\sh> slomo: moment..taking to jblack on #launchpad and fighting again on gajim@... [08:32] ok... [08:35] <\sh> just testing the package :) [08:37] <\sh> wooow [08:38] ? :) [08:41] <\sh> upload [08:42] hm, when will the LP menu entries be usable, i.e. when will they show something else than a placeholder page ;) [08:44] <\sh> slomo: left to the placeholder....you can see the product translation page link [08:45] \sh: that only links to the placeholder again... at least for epiphany ;) but anyway, the placeholders aren't that useful imho :) === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] \sh: ok... on more ;) not really user friendly :( === Seveas` [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] Heya Lathiat, Seveas [08:52] \sh: maybe we should take over maintainership for gajim in debian ;) [08:54] <\sh> bddebian: sorry..I'm just busy with the gajim devs...because they have legal issues *gnarf* [08:54] legal issues? [08:54] \sh: Sorry for what? [08:55] <\sh> that I don't do the upload right now..give me 20 mins :) thx :) [08:55] Oh no worries man [08:56] <\sh> just trying to catch sabdfl [08:57] <\sh> ok..what was it? [08:57] <\sh> which package? [08:58] <\sh> drscheme? [08:58] <\sh> yes === comadreja [n=comadrej@pdpc/supporter/active/comadreja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] <\sh> wow. [09:06] <\sh> great [09:07] <\sh> bddebian: ok...I'm fully your slave now :) [09:08] <\sh> just dealt with all this..and sabdfl is such a nice guy to take his time with upstream devs === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1575.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] <\sh> bddebian: building drscheme === ivoks is in keyring! === slomo too :) [09:17] so... [09:17] question... [09:18] can i just upload bugfixes or i need a review for them? [09:18] just upload them if they work :) and when you're unsure whether it's the correct way to fix ask someone ;) === parktownprawn [n=kevin@203.212.216.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] \sh: Nice, thanks [09:21] <\sh> bddebian: sorry for the delay :) [09:22] \sh: No worries really. Looks like I may actually be able to do my own soon. :-) [09:23] <\sh> bddebian: I hope so...I wish :) [09:24] <\sh> bddebian: build.I'll upload === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] see you later === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] Heya Mez, where you been? :-) [09:31] hi Mez :) [09:32] I've been at a new job [09:32] yay! my first upload to universe :) [09:32] ivoks: nice :) [09:33] ivoks: i'm currently searching something to upload ;) [09:33] :)) [09:33] slomo: it better be good [09:33] i hope banshee upstream releases a new version soon ;) [09:34] Lathiat: may i upload libnss-mdns 0.6 with avahi support? [09:34] slomo: heh [09:34] slomo: i already prepared that [09:34] slomo: have you already prepared it? [09:34] Lathiat: nope... but shouldn't be that hard ;) but when you've done it already... [09:34] slomo: change the Recommends to avahi-daemon | mdnsresponder [09:34] ivoks: Yeah, congrats [09:34] slomo: GLUTransition needs lots of love :) [09:35] Mez: Oh, congrats [09:35] wnat the debdiff? [09:35] bddebian: thanks [09:35] i cant uplload yet [09:35] ivoks: It shouldn't, I have hit most of them [09:35] Lathiat: against 0.5... i'll sponsor it for you then :) [09:35] ghc6 is uploaded? [09:35] bddebian, .... ? [09:35] Lathiat: against 0.6 the debdiff please ;) [09:35] Mez: Congrats on a new job :-) [09:35] bddebian: ok, let's wipe out some bugs [09:35] ivoks: Yar [09:35] oh, lol - been in it for a while... very tiring [09:36] Ahh [09:36] ivoks: You could try flightgear if your c++ foo is good :-) [09:36] :/ [09:36] http://bur.st/~lathiat/nss-mdns.debdiff [09:37] Lathiat: ok, will upload it :) [09:37] bddebian: url [09:38] ivoks: For? [09:39] bddebian: flightgear [09:40] bddebian: it doesn't compile or what? [09:40] ivoks: Aye FTBFS. Undefined reference to std::XXX [09:40] Needs GL/GLU transition too [09:40] ok... [09:41] but that will compile for ages :) [09:41] Oh, then don't bother :-) [09:41] but nice game, tough [09:41] we should work on it [09:42] It may need some library rebuilds [09:44] <\sh> bddebian: uploaded [09:45] \sh: REJECTED :-( [09:45] <\sh> why? [09:45] <\sh> it's your package [09:45] <\sh> reason? [09:46] yay accepted :) [09:46] \sh: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2047 === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] Lathiat: uploaded :) [09:47] slomo: woo thanks [09:47] hm... [09:47] time for email change :) [09:47] <\sh> bddebian: [09:47] <\sh> hmm [09:47] <\sh> a f*ck [09:48] <\sh> -sa [09:48] <\sh> is nogood [09:48] ? [09:48] <\sh> i made a mistake [09:49] <\sh> thought it was a native package..so I did debuild -S -sa -ksh@sourcecode.de [09:50] As opposed to? === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable227.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-66.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] Lathiat: got mail from katie? [09:56] Rejected: nss-mdns_0.6-1ubuntu1.dsc refers to nss-mdns_0.6.orig.tar.gz, but I [09:56] +can't find it in the queue or in the pool. [09:57] narf... sorry :/ [09:57] same mistake as \sh [09:58] <\sh> bddebian: check now [09:58] <\sh> ok..another beer... [09:59] we have ssh-krb5 [09:59] wich provides ssh client and ssh server [09:59] these two are in main [09:59] so, could we create package ssh-krb5 wich provides ssh-client and ssh-server? [10:00] since package from main depend on ssh-client/server [10:09] \sh: Nothing yet [10:09] <\sh> Von: Barry deFreese [10:09] <\sh> Antwort an: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [10:09] <\sh> An: breezy-changes@lists.ubuntu.com [10:09] <\sh> Betreff: Accepted drscheme 1:209-5ubuntu1 (source) [10:09] <\sh> sorry [10:09] <\sh> accepted [10:09] :-) [10:11] bddebian? i have a job for you :) do you some time? [10:11] slomo: Shoot [10:11] bddebian: apt-get update && apt-get install banshee [10:11] bddebian: then run it and tell me the errors... apt-get install libsqlite3-0 when something with sql fails ;) [10:15] slomo: Ack, I'm not at home.. :-( I don't have X handy :-( [10:15] bddebian: oh :( [10:15] I'll be home in a while and I can try [10:18] <\sh> bddebian: are you going to ubz? === herzi [n=herzi@c197214.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] \sh: I may try to go one of the weeks but it will be tough [10:20] <\sh> bddebian: ok...from 29th to 6th this is the week to come ;) [10:20] OK :-) [10:22] <\sh> bddebian: it's an order not a wish ;-) [10:22] <\sh> hahah [10:22] \sh: Yes Sir! :-) [10:22] <\sh> hihi [10:27] w00t, tagcoll 1.4 builds now [10:27] <\sh> hmmmm [10:27] <\sh> I'm a bit dizzy [10:27] <\sh> listening to TaTu [10:27] too many biers? ;-) [10:27] <\sh> bddebian: hope so ;) === bddebian crosses his fingers [10:35] <\sh> think I should go to bed..to be ready to join ogra tomorrow ;) === ogra_ltsp [n=ogra@p5089FB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] <\sh> re slomo ogra_ltsp [10:39] hehe [10:39] xine-ui success on all platforms :) [10:39] does anyone know who seb payne is on IRC? [10:39] Mez: spayne [10:40] was there an hour ago [10:40] grr [10:40] I need to poke him [10:40] hehe [10:40] well [10:40] I need to talk to him about iFolder [10:41] I've just been asked to maintain the packages for debain and ubuntu [10:41] oh [10:41] just ubuntu [10:41] \sh: regarding gajim... please put about as the last entry in help [10:41] \sh: looks wrong now ;) [10:42] <\sh> slomo: ok [10:42] <\sh> damn...tomorrow [10:42] <\sh> I can't code anymore ,-) [10:42] bye all [10:42] hehe [10:42] heh [10:42] Later ivoks [10:43] Mez: are they already in debian? and why should they be maintained separate? [10:44] <\sh> slomo: tomorrow morning [10:44] slomo - I doubt it... and no idea [10:45] simple fact is ... iFolder has a prorietary library, so neither can distribute... the stuff would be on their servers [10:45] Mez: uuh... didn't know that... will novell change this? [10:45] I've no idea [10:46] and I didnt know either until some problems came up [10:47] Mez: spayne is in #u-d [10:53] w00t first upload, changes accepted. [10:53] <\sh> ok.guys going too bed [10:54] <\sh> bddebian: congrats :) [10:54] Gnight \sh, thanks as always [10:54] <\sh> bddebian: you rock dude :) [10:54] Heh [10:54] <\sh> slomo: try ;) [10:54] oh, you got MOTU bddebian ? [10:54] \sh: what? [10:54] congrats dude [10:54] <\sh> slomo: to upload :) [10:54] Mez: Aye. Thanks. [10:54] <\sh> ogra_ltsp: tomorrow? latest 14 GMT+2? [10:55] \sh: already done 2 uploads :) [10:55] bddebian, you deserve it :D shame it took so damn long though === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.154.230.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] hi folks [10:55] <\sh> slomo: woot? by yourself? congrats as well [10:55] Heya sistpoty [10:55] slomo: rockin' [10:55] Mez: Bah :-) [10:55] <\sh> sistpoty: hi and bye...:) [10:55] \sh: thanks :) [10:55] \sh ok [10:56] <\sh> ogra_ltsp: when I'm at the station I will call you...whereever it is ;) [10:56] ok [10:56] <\sh> hope they have cell transmission their ;) === nealmcb [n=neal@wikipedia/nealmcb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] <\sh> s/their/there/ [10:57] <\sh> g'night folks ...and rock as hard as ever team [10:57] gn8 \sh_away [10:57] gn8 \sh_away :) [11:00] ping lamont === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089FB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] lamont: if you have too much time, could you kick ocamldap (i386) and eventually ocamlcreal? (not urgent though) [11:11] Well, gonna head home. Catch you all in a few. [11:11] later bddebian === nakata [n=nakata@alyson.feriteninjas.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont just plain pretends that everything is available [11:38] *g* [11:38] it was, at least on date of upload for i386 ;) [11:39] the auto-depwaiter will happily dep-wait on a virtual package, which will never be cleared until that's done manually [11:42] do you mean ocaml-nox-3.08? should it be ocaml-nox instead? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-166.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-66.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu