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DaMi3nfunkyHat, : the pathed libtag doesnt help12:00
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CookedGryphonDaMi3n, have u looked for the right codecs? i use beep-media-player, its much better12:00
DaMi3nCookedGryphon, : yes i d/led all the codecs12:00
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funkyHatDaMi3n, amaroK will still use the old libtag1 unless you specify a compile time option (which i can't remember)12:01
DaMi3noh12:01
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funkyHatit's something like path=/usr/lib12:01
funkyHati'll look in the relevant logs and find it for you12:02
DaMi3num ok i'll try12:02
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othernoobfunkyHat: but does it really matter if he can play wmas which are on his linux partitions?12:02
DaMi3nthat'll be a lot of help ... ty12:02
funkyHatyeah you're most likely right othernoob. but i guess it's worth a try? maybe12:02
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mugwumphi all, sorry to just bust in with a question, but ...12:02
mugwumpfor some reason, mozilla-firefox in ubuntu won't let me open a url by pasting it into the window.12:03
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SPERMITEsorry12:03
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othernoobfunkyHat: what i'd rather take a look at is the way he mounted the ntfs..maybe his normal user account has no rights12:03
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DaMi3ntry running firefo in safe mode12:03
mugwumpthat is just so strange, I don't even know where to start looking to configure it12:03
mugwumpsafe mode ... ?12:03
DaMi3nmugwump, : try running firefo in safe mode12:03
DaMi3nyea12:03
funkyHatmugwump, try running the command firefox in a terminal window, and see what errors you get when you try to paste in a url12:04
DaMi3nothernoob, : well i ahve only one user apart from su/root12:04
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DaMi3nplus the umode is 0222 which i think is enough12:04
mugwumpok.  I'm not sure what you mean by safe mode.  firefox just starts another firefox instance12:04
[Spooky] getting tired of this...12:04
DaMi3nok do what funkyHat  says12:05
[Spooky] i have installed the sshd and have it started, yet none can connect why ?12:05
mugwumpI can't see an option for safe mode on `mozilla-firefox --help'12:05
othernoobDaMi3n: indeed..mmh12:05
funkyHatDaMi3n, it's ./configure --prefix=/usr12:05
test34can you choose how will ubuntu bootup during installation ? I don't want to overwrite the mbr12:05
FraeonDrat. I guess nobody knows the solution to my problem on the boards.12:05
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : k12:05
Ex-Cybermugwump: it's disabled by default in ubuntu, go to about:config and turn on middlemouse.contentLoadURL12:05
FraeonI guess I can just bang my head on the wall.12:05
funkyHatDaMi3n, but as othernoob says that probably won't make a difference12:05
funkyHatDaMi3n, i just think it's worth a try ;)12:05
DaMi3nsame12:06
CookedGryphonhow do i configure my kernel to enable ALSA and ICH based modem support?12:06
mugwumpEx-Cyber++  # thanks, that did it12:06
reikitrying to follow ubotu's directions... :)  How do I Create a new profile in gnome-audio-profiles-properties.?12:06
erUSULCookedGryphon, you need the sources12:06
Ex-Cybermugwump: I think they just disabled it because it's too easy to paste gibberish by accident and up pops an annoying error box12:06
Ex-Cybererr12:06
test34can you install ubuntu with the live CD ?12:06
Ex-Cyberactually it seems to auto-search now12:06
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : do i need to recompile amarok too ??12:07
erUSULCookedGryphon, and buil-essentials12:07
Ex-Cybermaybe that's just another pref hiding somewhere12:07
funkyHatDaMi3n, no12:07
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[Spooky] i have installed the sshd and have it started, yet none can connect why ? i have no firewall and i have forwaded the 22 port to my intern ip....12:07
mugwumpfirefox really need to sort out their preferences page ... far too much that can only be configured in about:config12:07
[Spooky] anyone any idea ?12:07
SpinX[Spooky] : just *maybe*, your isp blocks port 22 ?12:08
test34[Spooky] , type: lsof -i and tell me if sshd uses ipv612:08
Ex-Cybermugwump: they purposely leave most stuff off of the prefs dialogue12:08
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Ex-Cyberit's part of their UI philosophy12:08
mugwumpwhat, fuck off the users?  :)12:09
SpinXmy CDs were mailed on the 24th of last month. how long does the shipping process usually take?12:09
test34I have this problem at another computer..... it automatically starts for ipv6 while I don't even use ipv612:09
mugwumpor just the old timers who are used to how it used to work...12:09
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Ex-Cybermugwump: nah, I think the idea is that prefs should be reserved for a handful of important settings that people are likely to want to change, and about:config is for power-users, heh12:09
sn0nSpinX, i got mine about 3 weeks later12:09
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SpinXsn0n, ah. thanks.12:09
Ex-Cyberthat way you don't have the prefs dialogue sprouting 50 tabs and 100 sub-dialogues12:10
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DaMi3nfunkyHat, : well it doesnt work12:10
DaMi3n*sigh*12:10
Ex-Cyberput another way, the more settings you add to prefs, the more it just turns into about:config :P12:10
flankkI am trying to get sound working on an old ISA integrated chipset.  I have isapnptools and the output of 'pnpdump' is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2023 but I don't know where to go from here.12:11
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toranhow can I download things from usenet? without paying $$$?12:11
funkyHatDaMi3n, maybe it's the way you have the ntfs partition mounted, as othernoob said. that sounds more likely12:12
DaMi3n/dev/hdc5       /mnt/win        ntfs    ro,umask=0222,auto      0       012:12
test34DaMi3n maybe the program need read/write access ?12:12
DaMi3nthis is what i have put in fstab12:12
test34it is read only right now\12:12
DaMi3ntest34, : thtat mayb the case12:13
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DaMi3nbut it can play mp3s12:13
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funkyHatDaMi3n, i have a shared vfat partition for my music anyway, not ntfs12:13
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test34DaMi3n, try to mount it R/W12:13
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spiderhello12:13
test34damien , if you have support from the kernel12:13
funkyHatDaMi3n, maybe you should try enabling excecute... *just a thought*12:13
funkyHattest34, it's ntfs....12:13
DaMi3nfunkyHat, test34, : wont that have a risk of corrupting the data on ntfs12:14
funkyHatenabling x won't, w might though12:14
sean_hey funky hat, could i have priva chat with you, i gotta ask you a few questions cause i am new to thsi ubuntu thing, and you seem to know what your doing12:14
test34DaMi3n, create a symlink on the linux partition to the ntfs file ?12:14
DaMi3num ok12:14
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funkyHattest34, that's a good idea12:15
[Spooky] test34: dont see sshd there12:15
test34worth a try.. if you really don't want to copy the file on linux partition12:15
test34spooky, are you sure it's running ? ps aux | grep sshd12:16
funkyHatDaMi3n, try what test34 just said, if that doesn't work, and you have the free space, you could create a new fat32 partition for your media, that's how i have mine set up and it works fine12:16
flankkI am trying to get sound working on an old ISA integrated chipset.  I have isapnptools and the output of 'pnpdump' is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2023 but I don't know where to go from here.12:16
DaMi3nthats the last resolve :)12:16
funkyHatand means windows and linux can both safely write to your media files12:16
funkyHatsean_, sure12:17
[Spooky] test34: yepp12:17
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : i dont want windows but the thing is i dont have enough place for temp storage of data12:18
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test34DaMi3n burn them12:18
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DaMi3nagain .. as i said those are last resolves12:18
test34oops read only12:18
sean_hey funkyhat, please accept my invite12:19
DaMi3nerrr how do i symlink??12:19
FraeonI'm doing a mistake by downloading the preview of Breezy(after the Colony 4 woes) but I'm doing it anyway12:19
test34ln -s file.avi symlink.avi12:19
funkyHatsean_, doesn't seem to be working... just /msg me?12:19
sean_ya sure12:19
sean_<sean_> aiight thanks man12:19
sean_<sean_> well my first question is i downloaded this win32codects thing, but not trhough apt-get install, i dl it off this site, but it was compressed, cuase of a lot of files where in  it, and my understanding on how to install those is to run the configureation file after you extracted it12:19
sean_<sean_> yet this didnt have one12:19
sean_<sean_> i downloaded it from here, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/movix/win32codecs.tar.bz2?use_mirror=internap12:19
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test34anywhere I can see the differences between slackware and ubuntu ?12:21
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NoUsetest34 distrowatch.com but I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for12:22
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test34NoUse, like in slackware /etc/rc.d -> ubuntu /etc/init.d, apt-get, etc..12:23
DaMi3nok symlinkin doesnt work too12:23
nlogax!openoffice212:23
ubotunlogax: Are you on ritalin?12:23
NoUsetest34 yeah I don't know that anyone has compiled that kind of information12:23
nlogax!ooo212:23
ubotuNo idea, nlogax12:23
DaMi3nis it then possible to convert ntfs to ext3 w/o the format12:23
reikiI have Sound Juicer ripping a CD to mp3... woo-hoo!... now where is it putting the files? :)12:24
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DaMi3ntest34, : is it then possible to convert ntfs to ext3 w/o the format12:24
nlogaxAnyone got a clue as to how to install latest OOo2 beta?  Apparently there are .debs around12:24
DaMi3ncos symlinking doesnt wok12:24
DaMi3nwork*12:24
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jayDaMi3n: nope, you can't12:24
GnonthgolDaMi3n: why not convert it to fat32?12:25
DaMi3nntfs to fat?? how12:25
jayi think just fat -> ntfs is possible iirc12:25
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_SWAT_DaMi3n, partion magic (windows)12:25
mdznlogax: it's in breezy12:25
GnonthgolDaMi3n: using PM or windows12:25
DaMi3ndont have windows only a ntfs data partition :)12:26
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_SWAT_DaMi3n, why???12:26
DaMi3ncos i deleted windows12:26
DaMi3ni like linux betr12:26
_SWAT_good :)12:26
nlogaxmdz Thanks but I can't get Breezy to even install! :-/12:26
test34DaMi3n, convert from ntfs to fat32 -> http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php12:26
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mdznlogax: see /topic12:27
nlogaxAlso this PC is for someone else who I don't want to foist Breezy on until it releases (I'm their Tech Support, you see)12:27
WiseElbenHi, it seems like the md5sums never match for my downloads12:27
test34oh, you deleted windows..12:27
DaMi3nyea12:27
DaMi3n:)12:27
oleavrhi. anyone found a way around the infamous "(EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI." with breezy's latest xorg (release 60) and ati fglrx drivers 8.16.20? :)12:27
reikiDaMi3n, I put stuff on CD and pulled my XP drive out. I have only linux now. No ntfs, no windows junk cluttering things up12:27
mdznlogax: if it's a production environment, why install a beta release of openoffice?  might as well wait a month and install ubuntu 5.1012:27
jaytest34: that's for fat to ntfs ...12:27
test34well ntfs partition is useless then.. you have to backup and the format it I guess12:27
jaytest34: it's a one way process12:28
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test34jay, oh, yeah you're right12:29
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Madeyehey! is it safe to use preview release?12:30
chrisbudden14I think my logon screens resolution is wrong12:30
reikican anyone tell me where Sound Juicer is putting files by default when I ripp a CD to mp3?12:30
chrisbudden14how can i change it12:30
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erUSULreiki, in a folder mp3 in  $HOME12:31
Gnonthgolanyone know how to use slogin instead of login?12:31
reikierUSUL: ok... wow... there it is. I wasn't sure about opening more apps while ripping CDs12:32
reikierUSUL, thanks12:32
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test34there is security advisories almost everyday for ubuntu12:32
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reikitest34: there's security advisories almost every day for LOTS of stuff.12:32
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reikiI feel a whole lot safer in Ubuntu than I have for a very long time in windows12:33
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_SWAT_reiki, really?12:33
test34reiki, I feel pretty safe in my windows xp12:33
_SWAT_I mean the firewall (firestarter GUI) is VERY basic12:33
erUSULreiki, yaw12:33
reikitest34: XP has more holes in it than my kitchen collandar12:34
NoUsetest34 if Windows source code was public, there would be advisories every 15-20 minutes12:34
_SWAT_I also feel safe in my windows xp, with zone alarm, anti-virus, anti-spyware, tweaked services (against standard hacks) and MS firewall turned off.12:34
_SWAT_:P12:34
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chavoI have XP with only MS firewall, no spyware and no viruses12:35
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Gnonthgolanyone reale tested the Ubuntu standard install in the real world?12:35
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test34chavo, same here12:35
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chavowaht are you people doing to get this crap12:35
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_SWAT_chavo, then you're really lucky or you didn't notice the virii/spyware yet ;-)12:35
NoUseGnonthgol define "tested" and "real"12:35
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Gnonthgolchavo: http://serials.ws/ now you have. LOL12:35
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reiki_SWAT_: oh I ain't saying you can't make it feel safe... just that it really isn't... no matter how safe you feel. I've been involved with windows and microsoft since way back when win95 was still "Chicago with Win32C!" ... I'm old12:36
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_SWAT_:-|12:36
_SWAT_reiki, do you have any security experience?12:36
reiki_SWAT_: some... :)12:36
_SWAT_I think of opening a thread (after searching the ubuntuforums) about real security12:36
_SWAT_I'm kinda paranoid :)12:36
_SWAT_and somehow I like it12:36
GnonthgolNoUse: anyone just put an Ubuntu install on the internet without firewall or anything and see wats hapening?12:37
NoUseGnonthgol ubuntu doesn't open any ports by default12:37
test34reiki I started to use mMS products way before 95..12:37
robotgeekGnonthgol: i use ubuntu without a firewall12:37
_SWAT_Gnonthgol, ubuntu has a firewall activated by default (as far as I remember)12:37
devrethmananybody know why the partitioner would always crash at 41% while installing12:37
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devrethman?12:37
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test34_SWAT_, no it doesnt12:37
_SWAT_ow, my bad then12:38
reikitest34: oh I was USING them before 95... just wasn't contacted by microsoft and officially involved until around 9412:38
_SWAT_I ran it lots of times without a firewall... NO PROBLEM! :D12:38
NoUse_SWAT_ but there aren't any ports bound to services by default12:38
_SWAT_devrethman, no12:38
devrethmanblast12:38
GnonthgolThey tested the redhat system and it was haced in 21 days12:38
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test34reiki, ahh ok12:38
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devrethmanit's been doing this for like 2 weeks12:38
NoUseGnonthgol Windows would be 21 seonds12:38
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devrethmanand nobody has any idcea what to do with it12:38
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test34reiki, I started with dos prolly version 312:38
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_SWAT_Windows XP has virii/spyware within 20 minutes or something (if it's connected to the internet)12:39
_SWAT_:)12:39
reikiGnonthgol, that's why we have routers and firewalls... no need to taunt folks into hacking you easily.12:39
_SWAT_heehheeheh :)12:39
kevogod_SWAT_, Right....12:39
erUSULdevrethman, faulty hardware?12:39
BSG75how do I add other window manager to gdm pls?12:39
test34_SWAT_, Ive seen a video with a dialup access, it took 8 seconds for them12:39
_SWAT_test34, ROFL!12:39
Deathy_SWAT_, 12 minutes was the official test :)12:39
reikitest34: I think I actually have 5.25 floppies in my basement storage for DOS versions before 3.112:39
_SWAT_Deathy, thnx for the exact info :)12:40
Deathyalthough I seen some in 5 minutes if you're in a lan/man with other infected comps12:40
_SWAT_I was at a LAN party once..... One guy had > 500.000 infected files.... We all spontaniously pulled our UTP out of the switch and started scanning our comps12:41
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_SWAT_btw, it was Windows XP12:41
test34reiki, did you started to use the internet with windows 3.1 ?12:41
GNU-GPL.12:41
kevogodGood thing Windows XP SP2 eliminates all threat of virii and trojans.12:41
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GnonthgolI have tested windows and I can get a virus in like 2 sec with any anti-virus installed and with Microsoft securety expert looking unaware.12:41
devrethmanerUSL doubtful12:41
BubbleflyHello, my lovies.12:41
devrethmanit worked fine before i put the ubuntu CD in12:41
funkyHatis there a gtk2 version of gpgp12:41
funkyHat?12:41
_SWAT_kevogod, sorry to tell you this, but dream on12:41
Gnonthgolkevogod: sp2 does not remove nothing12:42
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cevizogluGnonthgol: well, **I** can get a virus in 122 milliseconds12:42
funkyHatguys, i think he was joking ;)12:42
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_SWAT_funkyHat, you just need a front-end12:42
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_SWAT_:)12:42
test34reiki, I only used BBS with dos.. hehe12:42
kevogodYou people are funny.12:42
holy_cowlol12:42
reikitest34: honestly don't remember exactly. I was using archie and veronica and ... heck I was writing web pages before there were pictures on the web... just text12:42
BSG75anyone know how I can add xfce to the gdm session list?12:42
Deathyantivirus can't do much if it's a windows service that gets infected running with admin priviledges12:42
funkyHat_SWAT_, gpgp is a front end ;)12:42
Deathysince it's really a 'feature' of windows that lets it get infected12:42
_SWAT_funkyHat, then use another ;-)12:42
funkyHat_SWAT_, but it's gtk not gtk2 :(12:42
Gnonthgolcevizoglu: probably12:42
BubbleflyIf I were to dist-upgrade in the near future, would I get the equivalent of the preview release? ^^12:43
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CookedGryphonARGH! my winmodem is really annoying me now12:43
spiderhey guys, newb question here... what's wrong with this command : /mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto ?12:43
GNU-GPLBubblefly, yes12:43
reikitest34: I've forgotten a lot of stuff... I was in a bad car accident in 2001 and was killed. There are somethings I just don't remember. Like holes in my memories12:43
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BubbleflyGinchy. Thank you.12:43
DeathyI did a dist upgrade to breezy ..not many bugs or anything like that :)12:44
holy_cowreiki, thats deep12:44
GNU-GPLindeed.. works allmost stable12:44
test34reiki yeah there is alot of holes in my memory too;)12:44
erUSULspider, it looks like a fstab line12:44
BSG75yeah 2.1.2 now has a menu editor :)12:44
spiderhmm12:44
GNU-GPLfinally12:44
spideractually, the proper command that is wrong is /mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto12:45
reikitest34: ok well some of the holes can be attributed to me turning 53 in about 2 weeks... but that's my story and I'm sticking to it :)12:45
spideractually, the proper command that is wrong is mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto12:45
BubbleflyWhich I can do by just... replacing all the 'hoary' references with 'breezy' in my sources.lst? :312:45
BSG75anyone know how I can add XFCE to my gdm session list?12:45
spiderI'm basicly trying to mount an SATA drive that is NTFS12:45
CookedGryphondoes anyone know how i can configure my modem with ICE and ALSA modem support?12:45
cevizogluDeathy: you did?  wow, I tried that last time there was a release and hosed my distro12:45
spiderI found the syntax for mount on a website12:46
spiderand all it does is giving me the help prompt12:46
NoUsespider you need to preface fs types with -t I believe12:46
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erUSULspider, mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata112:46
test34reiki, I'm 25, maybe I was too young to remember hehe12:46
spiderok, I'll try that, thanks12:46
Deathycevizoglu, just modified the sources from warty to breezy and did the upgrade, had no problems, only some minor reconfiguring programs12:46
cevizogluspider: here is an example. but not completely what you want: mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata112:46
reiki:)12:46
cevizogluoops, too slow12:47
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spiderok, I'll try to find out with that12:47
ilba7r!esd12:47
uboturumour has it, esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.12:47
SuperTails92BSG75: IIRC, the universe packages do that automatically in Hoary.12:48
ilba7r!esd howto12:48
ubotuilba7r: What?12:48
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : plus u know how to get audio workin on 915 chipsets12:48
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cevizoglu!rtfm12:48
uboturtfm is, like, Read The "Fine" Manual12:48
BSG75esd is the reason I am looking into other WMs .. I can live the quarks of gnome .. but arts and esd drives me craaazy12:48
SuperTails92!arts12:49
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, SuperTails9212:49
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GNU-GPL!ubotu12:49
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:49
GNU-GPL:P12:49
GNU-GPL!gpl12:49
ubotuGNU-GPL: I give up, what is it?12:49
GNU-GPL!gnu12:49
kevogod!bsd12:49
ubotuGNU-GPL: Are you smoking crack?12:49
ubotukevogod: Are you smoking crack?12:49
_lui_hello12:49
MikeStyle Hi, i just installed the Apache and Apache 2 Web servers on my computer but cannot find them in any of my menus, little help plz?12:49
cevizoglulol12:49
DaMi3nanyone knows how to get audio workin on 915 chipsets12:49
funkyHatDaMi3n, maybe i i knew what a 915 chipset was ;)12:49
GNU-GPLhmm.. not much inside the bot12:49
Gnonthgol!your name12:49
GNU-GPL:S12:49
ubotuGnonthgol: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:49
BSG75SuperTails92: universe package? .. pls elaborate12:49
Gnonthgol!google12:50
uboturumour has it, google is at http://www.google.com/linux12:50
funkyHatDaMi3n, did you get the other issue sorted?12:50
SuperTails92bsg75: Did you install XFCE from apt?12:50
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DaMi3nfunkyHat, : yea format the hdd  adn the copy the data baq12:50
BSG75SuperTails92: yes12:50
DaMi3nthats what i conclude :)12:50
funkyHat:) nice one12:50
QuinthiusMikeStyle: apache doesn't put anything in the menus12:50
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CookedGryphonsob.12:51
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : btw i meant the intel 915 chipset based mother boards12:51
ilba7ranyone familiar with esd troubles12:51
GNU-GPL!linux12:51
ubotuhmm... linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux12:51
cevizoglubreezy doesn't support my wireless card, so I'm in no hurry to upgrade12:51
MikeStyleThen how do i work it12:51
CookedGryphonesd doesn't seem to play multiple sounds for me either12:51
Lunar_Lampok - i want to set up sound now, on an *old* laptop.  when i go to volume control: "no volume control elements and/or devices found".  when i type 'alsamixer' into a terminal: 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory".  how do i go about fixing it.  my sound card specs are as this link shows: http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/systems/pmojav/specs.htm#Audio12:51
SuperTails92!botabuse12:51
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.12:51
funkyHatDaMi3n, ah right :)12:51
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QuinthiusMikeStyle: edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, restart with "sudo apache2ctl restart" (can also pass "stop" and "start")12:51
ilba7rfor me it just capture the sound device exclusivley so after a while i just loose anysound12:51
spiderok, got mount to work... the "auto" and "ro" option weren't liked :)12:51
MikeStyle...i cant set specific parameters?12:51
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QuinthiusMikeStyle: like?12:52
MikeStylelike i only want to make a small 15 gig server off my hdd12:52
erUSULspider, man mount12:52
DaMi3nanyone knows how to get audio workin on an intel 915 chipset based motherboard??12:52
QuinthiusMikeStyle: what's that have to do with apache config?12:52
_lui_question: anyone can tell an "amazing thing" to do with linux? I mean, a thing I could surprise any friend to say: "whoa!, I thought that only happen in movies!", you know?12:52
MikeStyleno idea, i just wanted to make apache like that and start it12:52
GNU-GPLDaMi3n, what the sound chip?12:53
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DaMi3nyes12:53
GNU-GPLDaMi3n, i ment: what's the sound chip on the board?12:54
QuinthiusMikeStyle: not sure what you mean, but you can partition off a 15 gig portion of your hard drive, mount it somewhere, then make that directory accessible to apache12:54
ilba7ris there an alternative to esd so i can remove it? seem to me everything depend on it12:54
MikeStyleok12:54
MikeStylethanks12:54
CookedGryphon_lui_, there's a nice feature where u can set it to take a typing break every 60 mins by locking the screen for 3 mins12:54
DaMi3nHDA audio12:54
GNU-GPLnever heard of12:55
DaMi3nGNU-GPL,: HDA audio i guess12:55
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DaMi3nerrr..high definition audio12:55
Quinthiusilba7r: well, you can disable it and use direct alsa instead12:55
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_lui_CookedGryphon, how's that?12:55
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DaMi3nanyone knows how to get audio workin on an intel 915 chipset based motherboard??12:55
ilba7rquinthius how can i do that?12:55
neighborlee why am I getting permission denied on something like this: sudo export X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so ?? ;-)12:55
xulinnanuit12:56
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CookedGryphon_lui_, its not really that impressive tho12:56
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Lunar_Lampok - i want to set up sound now, on an *old* laptop.  when i go to volume control: "no volume control elements and/or devices found".  when i type 'alsamixer' into a terminal: 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory".  how do i go about fixing it?  my sound card specs are as this link shows: http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/systems/pmojav/specs.htm#Audio12:56
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Quinthiusilba7r: system -> preferences -> sound, uncheck "enable sound server", then do system -> prefs -> multimedia selector, and set output sink to ALSA (and hit test to make sure it works)12:56
CookedGryphon_lui_, nicest feature is probs the multiple workspaces really, i have all my msn set up and my media player showing on one screen then other stuff on different workspaces12:56
ilba7rquinthius thanks will try that12:56
Quinthiusilba7r: and in all your apps, make sure they either use "system/default" ouput, or alsa12:57
test34_lui_, compile the kernel ?12:57
darkheartneighborlee It's kind of pointless to do something like that, I think. The variable is only in effect for the current shell login..so there's no point in sudoing it.12:57
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neighborleedarkheart, not pointless when you need it to compile something12:57
ashayhey guys12:57
neighborleedarkheart, regardless though I should not be seeing such a error12:57
darkheartneighborlee I think you are misunderstanding me, the sudo part is not correct.12:58
ashayI have a question..is there any way I can change the font color for my gnome-panel12:58
darkheartneighborlee What happens when you leave out the sudo?12:58
ashaymy panel is transperent now12:58
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erUSULDaMi3n, ypu are out of luck alsa does not support i91512:58
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darkheartneighborlee And usually those kind of environment variables are set to the path, not the actual file.12:58
_lui_CookedGryphon, I'm thinking in a thing like, I don't know..., for me was very impressive the pastebin feature to paste something to a webpage directly from the terminal, so I'm thinking in something that amazing12:58
neighborleedarkheart, su'ing doesn't work either12:59
darkheartneighborlee Don't su, sudo, root anything for now.12:59
DaMi3nerUSUL, : so basically no linux for 915 guys yet??12:59
neighborleedarkheart, yeah I know..wasn't sure how else to remedy12:59
neighborleedarkheart, im getting symbol errors that I can't resolve so I thought this would work12:59
neighborleedarkheart, also it was recommened to me by associate ;-)\01:00
Quinthiusneighborlee: are you getting this? sudo: export: command not found01:00
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_lui_test34, I'm asking for a feature in linux to surprise any friend with the capabilities of the system, something "movie like".01:00
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khermansany grading apps out there?01:00
CookedGryphon_lui_, scripting in general01:00
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CookedGryphonu can do most anything01:00
khermansto keep track of my grades in school?01:00
neighborleeQuinthius, nope..just permission denied01:00
darkheartneighborlee If you can show me some errors, it would be easier.01:00
test34_lui_, like a hacker movie ? or special effects or what ?01:00
cevizoglukhermans: /dev/null01:00
ilba7rquinthius thanks again works like a charm so far01:01
neighborleedarkheart, np01:01
Quinthiusilba7r: great :)01:01
khermanscevizoglu, ya...01:01
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neighborleeQuinthius, wait yes I am actaullly sorry01:01
cevizoglukhermans: keeping what kind of track?  like a spreadsheet?01:01
ashaykhermans: http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/37980.html its a PHP script01:01
neighborleedarkheart, sudo: export: command not found01:01
neighborleebash: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so: Permission denied01:01
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_lui_CookedGryphon, I was reading something about scripts some minutes ago and found some interesting things01:01
JonfCould anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder??01:02
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darkheartneighborlee So you're saying it won't work if you just leave out the sudo part?01:02
Quinthiusneighborlee: export is a builtin shell command, which apparently sudo doesn't have any knowledge of01:02
bur[n] erJonf: right click, share01:02
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khermanscevizoglu, i just want to track all my courses and grades on homework, tests, exams, etc01:02
_lui_test34, something like a hacker could do, something like that01:02
darkheartneighborlee It doesn't make sense to sudo something like that.01:02
Quinthiusneighborlee: and even if export did work, using sudo for it would be rather pointless... as darkheart is saying...01:02
neighborleeQuinthius, ah01:02
ashayi guess the script i pointed to does it01:02
test34_lui_, like a simulation I hope ?01:03
ashaybut u need tohave apache running01:03
khermansashay, thanks, i do :-001:03
ashaynp01:03
neighborleedarkheart, well I had to try something as I kept getting permission denied01:03
khermansashay, i see ggradebook in apt -- but there i no build for amd6401:03
kaptainki mounted a ext3 partition with "mount -t ext3 dev/mydrive path/to/mountpoint but inside some folders i have important files missing01:03
kaptainkany help?01:03
Quinthiusneighborlee: the permission denied error looks like the shell is trying to EXECUTE that file, which isn't an executable file, so it says permission denied01:03
kaptainki have show hidden files clicked01:03
darkheartneighborlee Yeah, I understand, but have you tried just 'export X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib' ?01:03
ashaywell i guess it does not matter for a php script01:04
neighborleedarkheart, first thing I tried..thats when I got the permission denied error01:04
ashaybrb01:04
NoUsekaptaink what happens when you do an 'ls' from a shell on tha folder01:04
neighborleedarkheart, oh wait01:04
Quinthiusneighborlee: are you getting permission denied when yo uset the export? or during the compile?01:04
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kaptainkgood idea, let me just try01:04
neighborleedarkheart, ok nm it seems shell didn't like me trying to do both libs at same time01:04
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erUSULneighborlee, export $X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib'01:05
_lui_test34, just something I can say to a friend: "look what you can do with linux"01:05
darkheartneighborlee Just curious, what are you compiling?01:05
neighborleeah crap no wonder01:05
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neighborleedarkheart, sorry my associate pasted me the line to use but with ; instead of ;01:05
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neighborleedarkheart, grfrr it works fine now01:05
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_lui_test34, but like an unbelievable thing01:06
PiercedH20Is it possible to network Ubunyu with Windows?01:06
test34_lui_, something unbelievable to somebody might be common for somebody else01:06
NoUsePiercedH20 you want Samba01:06
darkheartneighborlee I didn't get that =P but I'm glad that you got it working.01:06
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NoUse!samba01:06
uboturumour has it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently01:06
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Gnonthgolanyone know how to set up an terminal without gui?01:06
kaptainkNoUse - it says permission denied but i can actually get into the folder through the graphical interface01:07
darkheartGnonthgol Set up a terminal?01:07
Quinthiusneighborlee: you mean ; instead of : ?01:07
_lui_test34, something unbelievable to a normal windows user01:07
neighborleeyes I had to use : instead of ;01:07
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JonfCould anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder??01:07
neighborleeQuinthius,  yes I had to use : instead of ;01:07
Gnonthgoldarkheart: yes01:07
neighborleedarkheart, I still could use some help though..lemme use pastebin01:07
darkheartGnonthgol Sorry, I mean 'what do you mean'? =)01:07
Quinthiusneighborlee: well that explains the permission denied part :P01:07
neighborleeyes indeed LOL01:07
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NoUsekaptaink who owns the folder?01:08
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poningruCookedGryphon: whats wrong dude?01:09
kaptainkmyself, its says permission denied01:09
neighborleedarkheart, http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/?619801:09
poningruerr make and model of your modem please?01:09
JonfCould anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder?? It says I dont have permissions01:09
kaptainkcan i change the whole partitions permissions and all the folders under it?01:09
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seifhi all01:09
seifhow is the preview release01:09
seif:)01:09
Gnonthgoldarkheart: I have an old laptop without gui and a remote server altso without gui but with ssh, how to set up inittab to use slogin instead of ligin?01:09
NoUsekaptaink yeah if you own it make sure you have read permissions01:09
poningrukaptaink: just mount it somewhere you have permission01:09
poningrulike under your home dir01:09
CookedGryphonponingru, i have a winmodem in my laptop, and i have downloaded the slmodem drivers, and it worked like twice, then stopped working and i don't know y, in my logs it says there was no carrier, but beyond that i ahve nothying01:10
kaptainkok, ill give it a try01:10
kaptainkthanx 4 ur help01:10
poningrueeh01:10
darkheartneighborlee What exactly are you compiling? Looks like you are missing some libs or something.01:10
poningruwinmodem == bad for you01:10
seifguys01:10
seifis fglrx working under breezy preview01:10
seif:)01:10
seif??????01:11
leonelhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-September/000031.html01:11
NoUseseif no need to flood01:11
funkyHatseif, give people a chance :P01:11
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neighborleedarkheart, openscenegraph.org01:11
funkyHatmaybe noone is around who knows right now01:11
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neighborleedarkheart, what we're using for game development01:11
darkheartGnonthgol So basically, you don't want the computer to boot into GUI?01:11
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seifsorry01:11
CookedGryphonponingru, i know, but i can't be bothered getting a proper modem cos i'm off to uni in a lil bit and can't b bothered investing considering ho wmuch i'm gna use it01:11
poningruCookedGryphon: you sure you can connect using the thing udner windows?01:11
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CookedGryphonponingru, i can connect under ubuntu, once01:12
Gnonthgoldarkheart: I lack CPU for that01:12
CookedGryphonno twice sry01:12
CookedGryphonthen it stopped working01:12
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poningruCookedGryphon: right but it could be that it actually cant find the carrier01:12
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no0ticI'm trying to backtrace a crash of rhythmbox, I compiled a debugging version of it, but when I try to run it into gdb it doesn't start01:12
poningruCookedGryphon: can you try to connect under windows, just to see if you can01:12
CookedGryphoni don't ahve windows01:13
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CookedGryphoni'm 100% ubuntu01:13
CookedGryphoni'm on my main pc on ubuntu now01:13
darkheartGnonthgol Okay, you mean you want the laptop to boot up and auto login to the server?01:13
poningruCookedGryphon: ic hmm01:13
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no0ticanyone can help me?01:13
Gnonthgoldarkheart: yes, you have got the idea01:13
poningruCookedGryphon: you sure the line carries a signal?01:14
Quinthiusno0tic: hmm, i'm using the version of rhythmbox that comes with hoary, but sometimes when i go to run it the taskbar says "starting rhythmbox" for a few seconds, then closes... after a couple attempts it starts up01:14
Quinthiusno0tic: so maybe try a few times in a row or something...01:14
CookedGryphonponingru, i'm using the same phone line and plug into this computer, with the same ISP and everytihing01:14
poningruconnect a telephone to the thing and see if you have a dial tone01:14
poningruhmm ic01:14
no0ticQuinthius: I'm on breezy, I'm trying to backtrace a crash01:15
JonfHow I can install Azureus??01:15
no0ticQuinthius: I filed a bug and seb wants the backtrace, but bug-buddy dialog didn't open01:15
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VoXjonf: get the source, compile it and install it01:15
poningruCookedGryphon: hold on let me try something on my comp01:15
Gnonthgol!azureus01:15
ubotuit has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository01:15
robotgeek!info azureus01:15
Jonfthank you01:16
VoXGnonthgol: too bad if you're not using hoary :p01:16
CookedGryphonkk01:16
Gnonthgol!repository01:16
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Gnonthgol01:16
robotgeek!repos01:16
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:16
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Quinthiusno0tic: ahh, i dont know. thought you meant rhythmbox wasn't starting up... so was just suggesting to give it a few tries :)01:16
no0ticQuinthius: it starts up. normally, but when invoked inside gdb it doesn't01:17
darkheartGnonthgol Sorry man, I know what you are trying to do, but I can't think of a way to do it, except disabling gdm and creating some kind of shell script to run slogin and include that in the startup.01:17
bur[n] errhythmbox won't work for someone?01:17
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bur[n] eroh01:17
seifhmmmm01:18
bur[n] ermy rb crashes if I type anything in the "search" field01:18
robotgeekbur[n] er: i too have problems with rythmbox, maybe too slow a machine?01:18
neighborleedarkheart, any idea on my compile error ...01:18
darkheartneighborlee I'm not sure what the problem is =\ but it looks like maybe you need to install some development packages.01:18
seifi am planning to try the preview unless the fglrx doenst work :)01:18
darkheartneighborlee For XFree8601:18
neighborleedarkheart, agreed but I have zero clue what ones01:18
bur[n] ertoo "slow" shouldn't really matter01:18
seifca nsome1 gelp me01:18
_kurtI have a question in the next... oh... hour.01:18
_kurtI will be back in 60 minutes with a question.01:18
CookedGryphoni use beep-media-player, much nicer01:18
neighborleedarkheart, how do I check what libs will contain a given symbol ?01:19
bur[n] erlol, thanks for the warning _kurt01:19
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Quinthiusseif: i don't see why fglrx wouldn't work... have there been reports that it's not01:19
Gnonthgoldarkheart: I do not have gdm installed, and have ou taken a look at /etc/inittab01:19
robotgeekbur[n] er: i dunno, but it hangs and all. i too use bmp01:19
bur[n] erbmp is decent01:19
robotgeekvery01:19
bur[n] erxmms is faster and has more plugins01:19
_kurthow's xmms2 coming along?01:19
robotgeekbur[n] er: bmp works better than xmms for me01:19
bur[n] errobotgeek: how?01:19
mike_aforget XMMS2, wait for BMPx :)01:20
bur[n] erforget all those... use mpd :)  with gmpc as the client01:20
bur[n] er;)01:20
CookedGryphoni find its also got best sound quality out of the ones i've tried01:20
CookedGryphonand also wma support, all plus points01:20
bur[n] erwma support on beep?01:20
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jcd1006i need some help with firefox, anyone willing to help?01:20
=== bur[n] er doens't have that
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robotgeek!anyone01:21
ubotuI guess anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>01:21
=== bur[n] er wishes he didn't have any wma files
CookedGryphonweird thing.. my modem applet tells me i'm not connected, but i quite obviously am..01:21
bur[n] erjcd1006: que pasa?01:21
_kurtbur[n] er: Heh. If I wasn't using gnome already, I'd use mpd. Seems kind of silly to run gnome and then be light on the mp3 playing.01:21
CookedGryphoni couldn't get xmms to download01:21
CookedGryphoni may try it another time01:21
bur[n] ermpd == light?  it's a friggen server/client solution... that's not light ;)01:22
jcd1006i tried updating it so that i could install extensions and they still won't work, on top of that plug ins do not install/work and i can not print, it brings up an error when i try01:22
bur[n] erif only there was a rhtyhmbox-like frontend for mpd01:22
bur[n] erjcd1006: how'd you "update" it?01:22
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, y do u wish u dint have wma files?01:22
bur[n] erwma is not a very "open" format01:23
jcd1006by doing the packagem manager01:23
robotgeekjcd1006: backup your bookmarks, and remove your profiles directory and try again01:23
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, tru, but hey, it works  and that's good enuf 4 me, i'm not putting any of my newer stuff into wma tho01:23
bur[n] erin fact... f it, I don't need these songs... time to rm -rf *wma01:23
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jcd1006it won't let me add bookmarks eihter, so i don't have any01:24
bur[n] ernot i :)01:24
bur[n] ergive me mp3 or give me death01:24
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robotgeekjcd1006: weird01:24
bur[n] erplus.. wma doesn't play on my car stereo where mp3 does ;)01:24
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mjr*cough*ogg*cough*vorbis01:24
CookedGryphonhmm, mp3 quality's a bit naff tho01:24
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robotgeekbur[n] er: dont u mean ogg? :)01:24
seifthx man01:24
bur[n] ernope01:24
seifi will try it on my notebook01:24
CookedGryphonogg is better quality01:24
jcd1006robotgeek: how would i remove that directory, just go into the program manager and find that file and delete it then reupdate?01:24
bur[n] ergive me an ogg car player or portable ogg player, and i'm all for it01:24
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DaMi3nl0l01:24
bur[n] erif only the creative zen01:24
mjrplus mp3 is not a very "open" format01:24
seifi just remember tht the last time with colony 3 i couldnt c whats booting01:24
seif:)01:24
bur[n] erlame == open source...01:25
bur[n] er'technically' royalties to frauenhofer should be paid but eh01:25
bur[n] ermp3 == more open than wma01:25
robotgeekjcd1006: try in a terminal "sudo apt-get install firefox-gnome-support"01:25
spiderhmm, I'm trying to play mp3 using rhythmbox.. got a fresh ubuntu install, and when I try to scan the directory where my mp3 are, it gives errors : no pluging to handle a MP3 files... but the help files tells me it's able to read mp3... what can I do ?01:26
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robotgeekjcd1006: or what was the name of the package u tried to install?01:26
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Quinthiusspider: you need to install some gstreamer plugins01:26
bur[n] erjcd1006: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support" rather ;)01:26
rob^!mp301:26
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:26
darkheartneighborlee Sorry, I'm at a loss. Perhaps it's the libmesa dev package, or one of the libxxfree86 packages.01:26
neighborleedarkheart, np ok ill check01:26
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robotgeekneighborlee: what package are u trying to compile?01:26
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neighborleedarkheart, thx for peeking01:26
seifany1 using a notebook01:27
seif:)01:27
robotgeekseif: yeah01:27
=== bur[n] er uses notebook
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jcd1006when i tried doing what bur[n] er said it came back with "ozilla-firefox-gnome-support is already the newest version."01:27
CookedGryphonseif, i would b if my winmodem would work01:27
mackidhi I'm using gnoppix.. how can I save a home directory on my usb stick and load it at startup so i have all my settings and stuff?01:27
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neighborleerobotgeek, openscenegraph.org : specifically the OpenSceneGraph DIR ( after having compiled cleanly OT and Prod01:27
Seveasbut my laptop musr guaranteed work on software freedom day :S01:27
spiderthanks for the link ubotu01:27
jcd1006robotgeek: it was the 1.06 install01:28
=== bur[n] er has a laptop working well on breezy ;)
robotgeekneighborlee: you can get the dependencies by apt-get install build-dep <package>01:28
=== bur[n] er encourages no one to upgrade
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neighborleerobotgeek, yes I know01:28
bur[n] erX is a little fudged in terms of GL speed01:28
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seifand how is it on a notebook01:28
darkheartSeveas Can you take a peek at http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/?6198 and suggest a package that might be missing? (I think that's what the problem is)01:28
seifis it ok?01:28
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robotgeekneighborlee: i ran into another bug too01:28
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seifrobotgeek01:28
bur[n] erseif: wonderfully spectacular01:28
funkyHatwhat's s Seveas ?01:28
neighborleerobotgeek, hmm wait one sec.can I just PM you01:28
darkheartGnonthgol I don't know if you can accomplish what you want with /etc/inittab01:28
robotgeekseif: it's good, but still a lot of stuff broken for me01:28
robotgeekneighborlee: go ahead01:29
SeveasfunkyHat, secret01:29
bur[n] erseif: check the laptop part of the wiki for specific models01:29
Seveasit was a futile attempt of mine to keep spambots out01:29
funkyHatah01:29
robotgeekjcd1006: try installing and reinstalling the package, with a purge too...brb01:29
darkheartGnonthgol Well, actually, if you can make a script it seems it would work w/ inittab01:30
jcd1006robotgeek: how would i do that?01:30
robotgeekjcd1006: aptitude purge mozilla-firefox01:30
robotgeekjcd1006: then install the package again01:31
jcd1006robotgeek: sorry im new to linux...where or what is aptitude? or do i run that in terminal01:31
robotgeekjcd1006: sorry. you gotta do that in a terminal01:31
_kurtjci: aptitutde is a frontend for apt-get01:31
jcd1006robotgeek:  ok, thank you, i will try that real fast01:31
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=== _kurt points both ways
Seveas_kurt, it's a replacement, not a frontend01:32
_kurtSeveas: hm. Never knew that.01:32
_kurtAlways used apt-get. heh.01:32
poningruCookedGryphon: dude you sure the line is good? could it be that after you connected couple of times some damage came to the line?01:32
Seveas_kurt, aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, kynaptice, kpackagemanager, gnome-app-install are all frontends to libapt01:32
poningrucan you check using your telephone?01:33
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_kurtahh.01:33
_kurtokay. that makes sense then.01:33
jcd1006robotgeek: when i did the purge thing it brought back two errors " aptitude purge mozilla-firefox"01:33
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jcd1006crap01:33
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_kurtor is that dpkg?01:33
jcd1006robotgeek: "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)01:33
jcd1006E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"01:33
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_kurtlibapt/dpkg for that matter.01:33
Quinthiusjcd1006: prefix the command with sudo01:34
robotgeekjcd1006: u have to sudo aptitude purge mozilla-firefox01:34
Seveaslibapt is a frontend to dpkg01:34
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jcd1006robotgeek:  thanks01:34
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_kurtok.01:34
_kurtthanks for the clarification01:34
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Guest9695747hi01:35
Guest9695747i have problems with just installing ubuntu :/01:35
VexirHey guys, I just downloaded some .deb file or whatever for updating ubuntu so it can use my wifi card... so.. my question is, since I'm new to linux and all that, how do I install this .deb update abd then how do I run that network setup wizard thing again (like it did when I installed Ubuntu)01:35
VoXVexir: dpkg -i <deb package name>01:36
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trekeI'm looking to build a customized ubuntu cd, does anyone know if the tools used to generate the existing releases are publically available?01:36
crimsuntreke: yes01:36
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CookedGryphonponingru, i'm using the line right now01:36
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CookedGryphonthe line is fine01:36
TheMusoHas anybody had trouble rsyncing the preview iso images? I get the message: skipping non-regular file "ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso" when I try to fetch the image.01:37
trekecrimsun: Any chance you could point me to them? I did a bit of a search through the wiki, but wasn't successful01:37
VexirVoX: How do I get the package name?01:37
Guest9695747most of the time it (breezy 386 - installer) stops after trying to load the partition manager01:37
sexcopter8000mhi, i have a programme newly installed, and i want to make a launcher for it, but to launch it i have to cd to the directory (~/.maple9.5/bin) and then do ./xmaple.... so how can i make a launcher for something like that?01:37
Guest9695747without an error msg or whatever01:37
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VoXVexir: you said you just downloaded some .deb files.  to install them, type: dpkg -i <package_that_you_just_downloaded>01:38
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bur[n] erare the preview images livecd's or installs?  or both? or one and the same?01:38
crimsuntreke: please search the ubuntu-users mailing list archive01:38
CookedGryphonsexcopter8000m, make a shell script01:38
kevogodbur[n] er, They are separate.01:38
crimsunbur[n] er: separately live and install01:38
VexirVoX: the name of the file is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.5-1gb_i386.deb ... I type that in? All of it?01:38
trekecrimsun: Ok thanks. Wasn't expecting to find stuff like that on it :)01:38
bur[n] eraww01:38
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sexcopter8000mCookedGryphon: no idea how :s01:39
jcd1006i'm having problems reinstalling, i thought i remembered how, but i do not01:39
kevogodbur[n] er, Disappointing, but still not a big deal01:39
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bur[n] eris the final breezy gonna be that way too?  I think I saw UbuntuExpress was going to be forgone for this release?01:39
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VoXVexir: yes01:39
vu_Does anybody know how lonf ago did this ubuntu project start?01:39
VexirVoX: lol okay :) and what about the network setup wizard01:39
HrdwrBoBvu_: 18 months or so01:40
HrdwrBoBiirc01:40
vu_I see01:40
CookedGryphonsexcopter8000m, make a text file that starts with the line "#!/bin/bash" which tells the script to use the bash shell, then type the commands you want to exxecute on the next lines, save it as something.sh and set the permissions to executable01:40
VoXVexir: "base-config"01:40
VexirVoX: yaay. <3 :-P01:40
CookedGryphonthe thing you are executing is probably a shell script itself01:40
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CookedGryphonwhat is that btw, maple?01:40
Guest9695747can someone help me?01:40
robotgeek!info sudo apt-get build-dep openscenegraph01:41
robotgeek!info  openscenegraph01:41
jcd1006robotgeek: can i just go into the add/remove programs and add firefox back in?01:41
ubotuopenscenegraph: (3D scenegraph binary files), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.9.8-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 990 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB01:41
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CookedGryphonis that the sciencey mathsy program taht my uni said i might need, where do u get that for linux? do u ahve to buy it?01:41
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communicohi, I'm trying to install some harddrives in my new ubuntu setup. I'm unsure which howto doc I should be following. can anyone tell me the difference between a hardware raid and a software raid?01:41
crimsunCookedGryphon: no, you don't have to buy01:42
robotgeekCookedGryphon: try scipy/octave01:42
kevogodcommunico, Hardware RAID is operated by a RAID controller and Software RAID is operated by the Operating System.01:42
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bur[n] ercommunico: you're setting up a raid?01:42
kevogodcommunico, Hardware RAID is generally considered to be faster and more reliable, but Software RAID can be easier and cheaper to setup.01:42
Guest9695747am i beeing ignored ? oO01:42
=== bur[n] er wouldn't call software... 'easier'
mjrhardware raid can also be dependent on a particular controller brand01:43
SeveasGuest9695747, what's your problem?01:43
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communicokevogod: thanks! I've been trying to find this out for days, heh. well I tried following the hardware raid howto in the forums, but I kept getting this error at a particular step01:43
sexcopter8000mok CookedGryphon, have done, and "sh ~/maplelauncher.sh" works. now how can i make an icon for it along the top?01:43
Guest9695747[01:52:01]  <Guest9695747> most of the time it (breezy 386 - installer) stops after trying to load the partition manager01:43
Guest9695747<Guest9695747> without an error msg or whatever01:43
=== bur[n] er likes adaptec hardware raids... although i've only done raid 1's... never a raid 5
CookedGryphonright click on the panel and say add launcher01:44
CookedGryphonthen type in that command01:44
kevogodcommunico, RAID setups generally work best with identical hard drives.01:44
bur[n] erGuest9695747: not sure what to say... i've never used the installer for breezy01:44
cyphasedo i have to do a dist upgrade to go from colony 3 to colony 4, or will it happen automatically?01:44
Guest96957475.04 installer crashes after the first time i press enter01:44
sexcopter8000mah ok, ty CookedGryphon01:44
spiderhmm another question... I'm trying to play DVD with Totem... I've installed the gstream plugins for most video and audio codecs, and I've run the install for libdvdcss2... I got nice video, but no sound, and the wiki for restricted format on ubuntun.com doesn't talk abotu that problem... where can I look at ?01:44
CookedGryphonadd to panel, custom application launcher to b specific01:44
communicokevogod: it says "ERROR: zero sectors on /dev/sdc" I thought that meant I hadn't formatted it properly01:44
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Guest9695747so im quiet confused01:45
mjrspider, hmh, did you install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg also?01:45
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communicokevogod: yes, they're all identical harddrives, there are four of them in a raid5 configuration01:45
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spiderjr : I did01:45
mjrspider, ok then, dunno01:45
bur[n] erspider: possibly start "esd" ??01:45
spiderburner : what is esd ?01:45
SeveasGuest9695747, so stick to 5.04 - 5.10 is not stable yet01:45
Guest9695747..01:45
mjroh yeah, check gstreamer-properties for working sound01:45
Guest9695747jeah right01:45
bur[n] eresd == enlightenment sound daemon01:45
bur[n] erjust start it ;)01:45
jcd1006bur[n] er: thank you, i got it working01:45
bur[n] ersee if it works01:45
jcd1006robotgeek: thank you, it's working now01:46
bur[n] erjcd1006: sure, i didn't do anything though ;)01:46
Guest9695747ill use the setup wich crashes after the first 2 seconds...01:46
snausageshow do i create a link (shortcut) of, say, solitaire on my desktop?01:46
kevogodcommunico, When does this error occur?01:46
communicokevogod: so I ran through the installing a new harddrive howto on the wiki. I got confused at the mounting part. what does mounting mean, exactly? I'm coming from a dos background01:46
spiderok, will try all that, thanks01:46
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cyphaseDo I have to do a dist-upgrade to go from colony 3 to colony 4, or will it happen automatically?01:46
communicokevogod: when I type dmraid -ay -v01:46
Muhammadhow can i install flash ?01:46
Muhammadhow can i install flash ?01:46
Seveascyphase, dist-upgrade01:46
Seveas!flash01:46
ubotuflash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:46
bur[n] er!tell muhammad about flash01:46
bur[n] erdoh01:46
Guest9695747i even had to take out the batery to restart the notebook01:46
cyphaseSeveas, thanx01:46
kevogodcommunico, Mounting basically means making the Operating System aware of the contents of the partition/drive.01:47
bur[n] erGuest9695747: holding hte power for 5+ seconds didn't do it?  /me doubts it01:47
Guest9695747well i bet i hold it 15 sec01:47
kevogodcommunico, And ready for use01:47
bur[n] ercommunico: you sure you want to be setting up a raid?  it's not for extra storage?01:47
JonfHow can I install Cedega??01:48
kevogodbur[n] er, Well, he does have four identical hard drives! What would you do with four identical hard drives...01:48
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communicoI'm actually a chick, heh heh01:48
kevogodJonf, You have a purchased copy of Cedega? Or do you wish to compile the free version?01:48
Guest9695747whatever the problem is i cant install ubuntu 5.04 neither 5,1001:48
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communicobur[n] er: it's mostly for data security01:49
kevogodcommunico, You can never tell online.01:49
seb1kevogod: there is a free version of cedega ?01:49
blunted_!grub01:49
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:49
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snausageswhen i try to install flash, i get this message: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree01:49
kevogodseb1, The free version does not have 'all' of the added features of Cedega.01:49
tarvidi'm in a pickle01:50
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seb1kevogod: have you some url, or something ?01:50
tarviddid an apt-get update apt-get upgrade on breezy tonight and blew up postfix01:50
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communicokevogod: it's all good. so I mounted the drives onto /raid/disc1 /raid/disc2 etc .... they show up in the filesystem, and display the right number of megabytes down the bottom. but when I try to save anything on them, it says it can't do it01:50
sexcopter8000mCookedGryphon: have done, but doesn't seem to do anything when i click it. should it be an "application" or something else?01:50
sexcopter8000mlike link, or service01:51
Guest9695747well should i stick to xp or whatever? :/01:51
kevogodseb1, http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs01:51
tincan_30greetings - anyone have any luck setting up ubuntu as an LDAP client.  pam.d config are killing me.01:51
communicokevogod: so I'm thinking they're not mounted properly ... I'm thinking there's probably something else I should have done to mount a raid01:51
kevogodGuest9695747, Use Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)01:51
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seb1kevogod: thx :)01:51
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Guest9695747...01:51
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Muhammadi am getting : E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree01:52
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Muhammadwhat shall i do ?01:52
Guest9695747hoary install freezes my notebook after the first press enter stuff!01:52
Guest9695747@ kevogod01:52
snausagesMuhammad, i'm getting the same thing heh01:53
snausagesi guess it's not on the server, or something...01:53
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kevogodGuest9695747, Well, then please contribute the specifications of your notebook to the Ubuntu developers so they can get it resolved for you in Breezy.01:53
Guest9695747hmm...01:54
nickrudI could use a bit of advice: I just come into possession of about 25 ibm ultra star  68pin ultra3 9.1G drives (ddys-to9170). I know nothing about scsi; any pointers on the best way to use a few of these?01:54
DeathyShutdown doesn't want to work on my notebook :)01:54
HrdwrBoBnickrud: throw them at people you don't like01:55
Guest9695747well the breezy installer seems to work.. a little bit...01:55
nickrudHrdwrBoB, garbage, then?01:55
kevogodGuest9695747, Have you tried another Linux flavor before?01:55
kevogodaka distribution01:55
HrdwrBoBnickrud: alternatively put them in a mirrored configuration for the system data01:55
bytefoohow can i make my fonts look better01:55
HrdwrBoBnot so much garbage01:55
HrdwrBoBmirrored as a system partition they're useful01:55
bytefoosmoother, crisper, etc01:55
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Guest9695747it curently crashes to some kind of useless bash while loading the partition manager01:55
bytefoosort  of like a ClearType Tuner for Linux if such a thing exists?01:56
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Guest9695747nope @ other distribution01:56
jcd1006what is a good dvd decrypter program and dvd shrink program?01:56
nickrudHrdwrBoB, by mirrored, you mean something like a raid0 or such? (haven't used raid either)01:56
lakcajjcd1006, dvddecrypter and dvdshrink :)01:56
jcd1006it works on here too?01:56
bytefoobadung cha!01:56
lakcajjcd1006, works fine via wine01:56
sexcopter8000mnn all01:56
Guest9695747i'v heard that ubuntu should be the beginnerfriendliest so now im trying it01:56
Guest9695747:/01:57
jcd1006lakcaj:  i used it in windows, but i didnt realize it works on linux too01:57
lakcajyep01:57
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jcd1006lakcaj: what is wine?01:57
bytefoo:/01:57
bytefooa fortified spirit01:57
bytefoo:D01:57
funkyHatbytefoo, system > preferences > font01:57
lakcajwine is not an emulator01:57
funkyHatjcd1006, wine is a win32 API for linux01:57
kevogodGuest9695747, Well, it may be more streamlined than a lot of other Linuxes, I would not say it is the easiest. Since proprietary formats are popular, Ubuntu requires extra attention.01:58
nickrudHrdwrBoB, thanks for the pointer: mirrored configuration and raid on google says a lot01:58
lakcajjcd1006, http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/01:58
Guest9695747hm01:58
HrdwrBoBnickrud: no worries :)01:58
Guest9695747so any idea wich one i could try instead?01:58
HrdwrBoByeah01:58
HrdwrBoBnickrud: you can easily setup raid in the ubuntu installer01:59
jcd1006what about a burning program?01:59
kevogodGuest9695747, You could try SUSE Linux.01:59
robotgeekjcd1006: i would recommend k3b, it worked for me01:59
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nickrudHrdwrBoB, thanks01:59
kevogodGuest9695747, http://www.opensuse.org/02:00
jcd1006robotgeek: thanks02:00
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Guest9695747dont u have to buy suse for all the better packages or whatever?02:00
kevogodGuest9695747, No.02:00
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Guest9695747hm02:00
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blunted_!grub02:01
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ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:01
imterrohey guys, what version of X does ubuntu have02:01
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Guest96957475 cds oO02:01
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NoUse!info xserver-org02:02
spiderthanks for all the help guys02:02
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kevogodGuest9695747, There is a DVD version floating around.02:02
NoUse!info xserver-xorg02:02
ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB02:02
imterrothanks02:02
Serpentwolfcool02:02
communicodoes anyone know a command you can type in that will give you a summary of the hard disks on the computer, and how much MBs are free or in use?02:03
NoUsecommunico df -h02:03
bimbericommunico: df -h02:03
kevogodSadly though, a lot of browsers have trouble downloading it correctly since it is such a large file.02:03
robotgeekcommunico: also df -kh for a readable output02:03
kevogodAnd they do not calculate the size correctly02:03
jcd1006i'm having some problems changing my dvd drive to dma being on02:03
communicothanks guys!!02:04
jcd1006i tried doing sudo /etc/hdparm.conf but it didn't work02:04
!lilo:*! Modifications to http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic .... to expand upon "various forms of antisocial behavior"02:04
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NoUsejcd1006 you're trying to execute that file, you have to run a text editor02:04
robotgeekjcd1006: you are trying to execute a configuration file.02:04
kevogodMy boot partition is 96% used, is that healthy? :)02:04
Guest9695747sounds like fun :/ @ suse dvd02:04
robotgeekjcd1006: instead try sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf02:05
jcd1006oh, thats what it said to do on that link02:05
NoUsejcd1006 which link?02:05
jcd1006http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/02:05
kevogodGuest9695747, You could try DesktopBSD (http://www.desktopbsd.net/)02:05
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Guest9695747maybe ill try a ubuntu live cd first....02:06
Guest9695747bsd? oO02:06
bimberikevogod: seems high - got few old kernels in there?02:06
NoUsejcd1006 yeah thats a typo02:06
bimberigot *a*02:06
kevogodbimberi, Only two :-)02:06
kevogodI think it is safe for me to remove one though.02:07
kevogodNot having any troubles with this one02:07
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jcd1006NoUse: thanks02:07
bimberiprobably no need - just be aware at the next kernel upgrade02:07
imterroguys, i am having trouble installing gfx drivers for my mobility radeon 970002:08
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neighborleeI rarely do this and dont recall..which .bash file do I edit to export needed variables ..I thought it was $HOME/.bash.bashrc  ?02:08
imterroand thusfar i can only find drivers for everythign else but this02:08
imterrocan anyone help?02:08
Serpentwolfgood point, how does one get ati going on ubuntu for laptops02:09
kkathmanaha so breezy finally made it to preview eh?02:09
bur[n] erget ati going?02:09
bimberineighborlee: ~/.bashrc (iirc)02:09
imterrowell atm i cannot use opengl02:10
bur[n] erneighborlee: might be prudent to also symlink ~/.profile to ~/.bashrc02:10
bur[n] erimterro: breezy?02:10
imterrobecause i dont have the proper drivers for my card02:10
imterrono hoary02:10
Guest9695747isnt it posible to install ubuntu from a live cd? or do u get there just the same installer as on the instalation cds?02:10
bur[n] erimterro: i bet you can edit the xorg.conf to make it work02:10
crimsunGuest9695747: use the installer if you wish to install02:10
bur[n] erimterro: what ati card?02:10
neighborleebimberi, k thx yes...no wonder...: .bashrc wont even come up as a known file in gedit02:10
neighborleebimberi, bites02:10
imterromobility radeon 970002:10
neighborleebur[n] er, ic02:10
bur[n] erradeon 7000 or 900002:11
imterro900002:11
Guest9695747instaler dosnt want to install ;) @ crimsun thats the problem02:11
bur[n] erimterro: apt-cache search fglrx02:11
cevizogluGuest9695747: anything is possible, but it's definitely not worth it over just using the normal install02:11
crimsunGuest9695747: where does it die?02:11
bur[n] er!fglrx02:11
ubotufglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:11
bur[n] er:)02:11
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Guest96957475.04 installer dies after the press enter or type server and press enter when i press enter ;)02:12
neighborleebur[n] er, .bashrc wont even show a a loadable file in  gedit run as root!!02:12
Guest9695747and 5.10 instaler dies curently while loading the partition manager02:12
crimsunGuest9695747: have you tried the 5.10 preview installer?02:12
kevogodcrimsun, Yes, he has.02:13
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Serpentwolfimterro : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21677.html02:13
jcd1006i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)02:13
crimsunGuest9695747: please inspect the log on an alternate vt when it dies02:13
Guest96957475.01 seems to freeze the pc 5.10 crashes to something like a useless shell (can type whatever but i wont get an error msg or whatever)02:13
Guest96957475.01=5.0402:13
imterrothanks02:13
Guest9695747an alternate vt??02:14
crimsunGuest9695747: alt+F[23] 02:14
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Guest9695747 whats a vt? and how do i do this?02:14
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cevizogluterminal02:14
Guest9695747ahh02:14
Guest9695747moment i can try it again...02:14
jcd1006robotgeek: i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)02:14
jcd1006NoUse: i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)02:15
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cevizoglumy dvd drive likes to show off too02:15
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robotgeekjcd1006: you can issue an command directly i believe, one sec02:15
NoUsejcd1006 you'll need to reboot to have that take effect02:16
bur[n] erneighborlee: it probably doens't exist02:16
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communicoare there any conventions about where you should mount a harddrive? I'm trying to install just a normal secondary one now, not a raid. in the howto, it gives this command as an example '/dev/hdd1 /backup' i'm wondering why they use a folder called /backup. Is that just arbitrary, or is there some reason for that?02:16
bur[n] erneighborlee: you have to create ~/.bashrc  and don't do it as root02:16
tarvidgetting an error upgrading postfix on breezy02:16
jcd1006NoUse: so it won't show up until I reboot?  thanks02:17
tarvidtfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration[fail] 02:17
communicosorry 'mount /dev/hdd1 /backup'02:17
bur[n] ercommunico: arbitrary02:17
tarvidany way out of this mess?02:17
communicobur[n] er: thanks02:17
azahidCan anybody help me with the Opera browser so that it can play internet videos using the mplayer or other plugins. Firefox can play fine.02:17
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nightswimevening02:17
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transgress_what's the command to configure sound?02:18
Guest9695747ok what shall i do on the other console now? @ cevizoglu02:18
sn0nalsamixer02:18
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transgress_no not configure the sound volume and stuff... actual sound card.  it didn't pick up in the install and i wanna see what i can find for it02:20
neighborleebur[n] er, no .bashrc does exist..but not even running gedit as root can see it (them)..I also have .bash_profile...wth ??02:20
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cevizogluGuest: I believe crimsum said something about inspecting the log when it dies02:21
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bur[n] erneighborlee: chown it to the user :)02:22
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bur[n] erneighborlee: and chmod it?02:22
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neighborleebur[n] er, yeah I know but this is dain odd behavior out of the box02:22
Guest9695747well on f4 and f3 is something wich looks like a log....02:22
bur[n] erneighborlee: sudo chown username:username .bashrc && sudo chmod 777 .bashrc02:23
neighborleebur[n] er, isn't 'export' variables to be done in /etc/profile..export PATH is there so i'd think that would be the file ...???02:23
bur[n] eryeah, odd02:23
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Guest9695747but i dont know even if there is something important...02:23
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cevizogluhmm... ubotu is always accusing me02:24
bur[n] ersilly ubotu02:24
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naliothwhois tritium02:25
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miveyI'm trying to find an article I read recently about the development environment at canonical.  It was mentioning some of the nice things they have set up, like an IRC bot that reports on all the commits.  Anyone else read that and have a link?  (it is a long shot, I know)02:26
crimsunnalioth: ?02:26
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naliothcrimsun: missing my / <<<points to needing a nap02:26
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bobbydoes any one  have good guide for setting up a routing/firewall box under ubuntu?02:27
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funkyHatis there a linux version of the musicbrainz tagger?02:27
Guest9695747the only thing wich tries to look important is the floppy detection wich says something like fatal: ther is no floppy02:27
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crimsunfunkyHat: yes02:27
linuxpoetanybody here actually get skype with callin/out working02:27
cevizoglumivey: my friend google might know02:28
crimsunsure. You just need to disable esd and make sure any other apps hogging /dev/dsp are closed, linuxpoet02:28
linuxpoethmm02:28
linuxpoetok02:28
linuxpoethow do I disable esd?02:28
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crimsununcheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup02:29
linuxpoetBasically I can call the number but I can't answer it for some reason, nor can I hang up.. and then skype just freaks out02:29
miveycevizoglu: i've been looking :)  I've tried google...I've searched the ubuntu wiki, I've read through people's blogs...I can't find it :)02:29
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bur[n] erlinuxpoet: killall esd02:29
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linuxpoetok did both of those02:29
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linuxpoetlets see what happens02:30
linuxpoetoh craop02:30
linuxpoeterr crap02:30
linuxpoetcool02:30
linuxpoetthanks guys!02:30
gusto5hello. ive installed vusualboyadvance by apt-getting it02:30
gusto5how do i run it?02:30
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bur[n] ergusto5: in your menu under "games" ?02:30
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gusto5bur[n] er, its not there.02:30
delpit's still showing dma off02:31
bur[n] ergusto5: you have a "debian" menu in your menu?  maybe it's under that?02:31
gusto5bur[n] er, nope.02:31
gusto5not under my menu or submenus, bur[n] er02:32
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transgress_okay sorry, had to wonder off... but is there not a command to configure the sound card?02:32
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bur[n] ergusto5: i dont' know the command ;)  sorry02:32
gusto5s'ok bur[n] er lol02:33
bur[n] ergusto5: go to a term and just type "v<tab><tab>"02:33
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bur[n] eryou might get lucky and find the full name02:33
VexirFor some reason Ubuntu wont let me su into root.. I type "su" and it asks for the password and I put in my password but it says access denied or whatever..02:34
VexirI'm pretty sure I got my password right02:34
AgrajagVexir: use sudo, not su02:34
Vexirso..02:34
delprobotgeek:  when im trying to turn the dma on for my dvd drive, do i need to change the address from cdrom to dvdrom or does that matter?02:34
Vexirokay02:34
Agrajagsudo -s for a root shell, or sudo <command> to run a command as root02:34
Vexirill try that02:34
gusto5bur[n] er, if i sudo-install something, will it install the dependencies?02:34
Vexirthx02:34
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Mr_Youhi02:34
robotgeekdelp: i dont think that matters02:35
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delpok, and do i need to do cdrom0 and cdrom1 or just 0?02:35
Mr_Youcheckin out gnoppix for the first time, pretty sweet, but seems no distribution works with my wifi out of the box ;-)02:35
delprobotgeek: ok, and do i need to do cdrom0 and cdrom1 or just 0?02:35
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bur[n] ergusto5: definately02:35
CCFIELhello ppl..02:36
bur[n] erif you sudo install, it will... if you pseudo install... i dunno ;)02:36
robotgeekdelp: how many cdrom/dvdroms have u got?02:36
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transgress_Mr_You: probably a card that requires ndiswrapper02:37
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transgress_which means no distro would work for it out of the box02:37
delprobotgeek: i have a dvd-rom and a dvd burner02:37
Mr_Youwow, pretty crazy, X is using 107M VIRT, 24M RES, firefox is using 110M VIRT 47M RES02:37
rob_pbobby:  Not sure if you got an answer regarding setting up a Linux firewall/router yet but this little tutorial might help:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/28/76/02:37
robotgeekdelp: and do u know which ones they are?02:37
gusto5bur[n] er, im gonna try reinstalling it again...02:38
steeevi have just installed hoary hedgehog but totem won't play my mpeg-4 movie02:38
bur[n] ergusto5: i bet it's there... just find the executable name02:38
bur[n] erwhat is the name of the emulator?02:38
Mr_Youtransgress: I dunno, I'm pretty sure there is a compatible driver, it just doesn't recognize the "Toshiba" description when probed.02:38
steeevi do not know how to get programs I want02:38
gusto5VisualBoyAdvance, bur[n] er02:38
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bur[n] er!tell steeev about restrictedformats02:38
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bur[n] ergusto5: check the website for that app?02:39
gusto5bur[n] er, will check again02:39
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bur[n] ersteeev: you wouldn't happen to be an old litestepper?02:40
delprobotgeek: i do not02:40
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bur[n] ergusto5: vba is the command :)02:41
gusto5really?02:41
robotgeekcan u grab that info from System->Administration-> device manager?02:41
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gusto5nothing comes up.... bur[n] er02:41
Guest9695747oO02:41
bur[n] ergusto5: there's no gui02:41
Guest9695747wow now it works...02:41
delprobotgeek: when i look in my dev folder i have dvd, dvd1, and dvdrw along with cdrom, cdrom1, and cdrw02:41
gusto5bur[n] er, what does that mean?02:41
bur[n] erfrom a term... run "vba file"02:41
bur[n] erthere's no point & click interface02:41
bur[n] erit's strictly command line02:41
gusto5bur[n] er, layman's terms?02:42
Tufekhi, Is  Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Preview work well on sata raid 0 ?02:42
Guest9695747now i want to know if ill see the gnome today02:42
robotgeekdelp: can u do a ls -al in the /dev folder and see if they are symlinked?02:42
bur[n] ergusto5: you can't use your mouse02:42
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Guest9695747bot i wont ;(02:42
bur[n] ergusto5: you run it via 'terminal'02:42
delprobotgeek: all of those have a @ after them02:42
gusto5bur[n] er, how do i run it via "terminal"02:42
bur[n] ergusto5: try a different emulator ;)02:42
bur[n] ergusto5: get one with a gui :)02:42
robotgeekdelp: though i am betting that dvd1 is your dvdrom and and dvdrw is your dvd writer02:42
gusto5LOL bur[n] er02:42
gusto5bur[n] er, you know one by any chance?02:43
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bur[n] ergusto5: use synaptic and search for "game boy" :)02:43
bur[n] eriv'e never used any to be honest02:43
bur[n] eri have snes & nes emu's but not a game boy one02:43
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Mr_Youopenoffice 153M VIRT 67M RES ouch hehe02:43
gusto5bur[n] er, hahah...i need it to play FFVI on SNES02:43
h17m4n!wine02:43
bur[n] ergusto5: you want an SNES emulator?02:44
delprobotgeek: i wasn't sure if it would be that or if dvd was my dvdrom and dvd1 along with dvdrw was my burner since it is a dvdrom and burner02:44
bur[n] erwtf you getting game boy ones for then?02:44
gusto5bur[n] er, i think ive found me one :)02:44
bytefoolawlz :/02:44
bur[n] ergusto5: use zsnes :)02:44
gusto5bur[n] er, thats the one i found :)02:44
bytefoosudo apt-cache search snes02:44
bytefoo:/02:44
gusto5bur[n] er, who the heck plays pokemon :P02:44
bur[n] erno need for sudo to search02:44
bur[n] ergusto5: got me... only game for game boy I know that's popular02:45
robotgeekdelp: i have never used a dvdrw b4, so u might just wait for some more time and ask around again!02:45
gusto5bur[n] er, true say...very true say.02:45
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delprobotgeek: ok, thank you for trying02:45
bur[n] erdelp: what does your "device manager" show?02:46
bytefoowtf02:46
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bytefoototem doesn't support dvd menus?02:46
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bytefoowtf :/02:46
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bytefooahh hmm02:46
bytefoonm :|02:46
bur[n] erlol02:46
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bytefooi was about to flip02:46
h17m4ndid anyone try Age Of Empires 3 with wine?02:46
lakcajdelp, what does dmesg | grep hd say?02:47
gusto5woohoo!02:47
gusto5bur[n] er, thanks :D02:47
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bur[n] ergusto5: no problem02:47
delpburn[n] er: where is the device manger?  the dev folder?02:48
benplautanother day, another colony02:48
benplauterr, preview :P02:48
Madpilothi all02:48
delplakcaj: it shows my dvdrom as hdc and my burner as hdd02:48
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lakcajdelp, well, if you cat /etc/fstab, you can see where the mount points are for those devices.  Is that what you were after?  I only started reading at the end of your conversation.02:49
steeevso do i need to convert my mpeg4 files into a different/free format?02:50
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bytefoothat sucked :/02:50
delplakcaj: i'm trying to turn on dma so i can use dvd shrink and decrypter02:51
naliothsteeev: you dont have to02:51
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naliothsteeev: linux will play all mp4 except for the DRMd ones02:51
bytefoosudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc02:52
lakcajdelp, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd02:52
foxinessdid the ubuntu team fix the dma on xine and other02:52
bytefooshoudl do it delp :/02:52
lakcajdelp, what bytefoo said02:52
bytefoowhichever your drive is :/02:52
lakcajright02:52
bobbythanks rob_p02:53
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foxinessnice to hear02:53
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delpso i will only have todo it to the one drive?02:54
Guest9695747muharr02:54
lakcajyou can do it on both if the drives support it.  I can turn on dma for both my burner and my dvd drive02:54
Guest9695747and again...02:54
Guest9695747ubuntu install has finished wanted to restart and now02:55
lakcajdelp, are you sure dma is even off?02:55
delplakcaj: what exactly does turning it on and off do?02:55
delpit was, i checked02:55
rob_pbobby:  No prob :-)  I wrote it specifically for Ubuntu.  Let me know if it helps, is clear, easy to understand, etc.  There's also a little script that you can download which sets up the NAT-routing capabilities, etc.02:55
lakcajdma = direct memory access02:55
lakcajtranslation -> speeds things up02:55
Guest9695747alert! /dev/hda5 foes not exist dropping to shell02:55
delpok, cool02:55
Guest9695747me confused02:55
lakcajdma is (Direct Memory Access) PCs have DMA channels that allow certain devices to directly access memory in order to speed up the process. to turn on dma, hdparm -d1 /dev/hda. to make it permanent, edit /etc/hdparm.conf02:56
delpi ran the one command that dvd shrink's site said to run to check for it being enabled or not and it showed it as off02:56
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rob_pbobby:  Or you can Ubuntu-firewall, which I wrote for Ubuntu as well.  It provides a nice stateful firewall with NAT-routing support.  There's a link to it from that page.02:56
delplakcag: do you run that same command to turn it back off?02:56
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delplakcaj: do you run that same command to turn it back off?02:56
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Guest9695747how can i find out where the problem comes from?02:57
oddball_okay i'm having problems... i can't get my sound to work, and when i try to follow the wiki it tells me to install the source packages for alsa... i'm doing that, but the alsa-utils package fails because it requires a curses library02:57
Gui_hello everybody02:57
lakcajdelp, -d0 for off02:57
bytefooit means you are trying to install to hda5, which is a partition that doesn't exist02:57
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lakcajdelp, but there is no reason to turn it off02:57
oddball_anyone have some suggestions?02:57
oddball_please02:57
delpok, i was just checking02:57
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Gui_I'm running Ubuntu from a Live CD, and I've managed to reach the files in my HD02:58
Gui_(by mounting it to a /mnt/windows directory)02:58
Gui_but I can't reach in the folders from within OpenOffice! Can anyone help?02:58
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bytefoo?02:59
Gui_I managed to open the /mnt/windows folder, calling nautilus from the terminal, though02:59
bytefoowhat do you mean reach :|02:59
matthew_wHey there - does anyone know why Enemy Territory would hang on open under Ubuntu?  I've had it working in Mandriva etc... Just in Ubuntu when I start it it hangs, all I get is a black screen.02:59
Gui_I couldn't open it just from the file browser02:59
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Gui_I had to call nautilus from the terminal, and then browse to the folder I wanted03:00
bytefoohmm03:00
Gui_and OOo still has access denied to it03:00
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Vexirhey.03:00
bytefooi dunno03:01
Gui_so I think I have to give it authorization thru the terminal, but don't know how03:01
bytefoosome kind of permission problem03:01
Vexirwhee, got internet working on ubuntu03:01
Vexirmuch easier than gentoo03:01
tarvidneed help with postfix on breezy03:01
Vexirlol03:01
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Vexirdoes anyone know how to install ATI drivers03:01
Gui_can I call OOo thru the terminal, like I did with nautilus?03:01
tarvidpostfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration[fail] 03:01
Vexirfor my Radeon 9800 Pro03:01
Random_Transithey, i'm running the ubuntu 5.04 liveCD and i'm having trouble mounting my hard drives03:01
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Vexirplease :)03:01
bytefoodo sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:01
Vexiri try running 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'03:02
Vexirhaha yeah03:02
Vexirit says03:02
Gui_Random_Transit, I had this problem too03:02
bytefooand then edit your xorg.conf03:02
communicookay I've just managed to mount a new harddrive. I found I could make a directory on it using the root terminal, but I can't through the gui. is there a command I can type in the terminal to see what write permissions my new hard drive has?03:02
bytefooto change everything that says ati to fglrx03:02
Gui_bytefoo, was that for me?03:02
bytefoo:|03:02
bytefoono for Vexir03:02
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Gui_ok03:02
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bytefoofor Gui_, you should be able to read them03:02
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Vexirit says it cant find the package03:02
bytefoosince linux can only read ntfs partitions03:02
bytefooVexir, it is in a different repository03:02
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Vexirbytefoo, how do i access it?03:03
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Gui_bytefoo, what do you mean? I should be able to open these files in OOo?03:03
Vexirbytefoo, not that i know what a repository is... but anyway03:03
Guest9695747help :/03:03
bytefooi think universe03:03
bytefooor possibly extras03:03
bytefooor possibly multiverse o_O03:03
bytefoo!repo03:03
ubotubytefoo: What?03:03
bytefoo:/03:03
delpafter i download the flash plug in, how do i install it?03:03
Vexirbytefoo, so how do i access it?03:03
Random_Transitbtw, can anyone tell me if Canon Scanners and/or Lexmark printers are supported under Ubu?03:04
bytefoohttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:04
Madpilot!tell Vexir about repos03:04
Madpilot!tell bytefoo about ubuntuguide03:04
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Gui_so... noone on how I could give permission to OOo to access anything?03:04
delpthanks03:04
bytefoo!tell Madpilot to bite me03:04
Gui_or tell me this: how do I call OOo from the terminal (just to launch the app)03:05
MadpilotRandom_Transit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org/03:05
Guest9695747can someone tell me why im dropped to a shell after a new install?03:06
=== steeev If ubuntu is linux for human beings I must be a vegetable
Gui_welcome to nonhuman world, steeev =)03:06
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Guest9695747muharr @steeev.. me too03:07
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delltonyi changed all my hoary's in sources.list to breezy and i get failed indexes any idea why?03:07
delltonywanting to dist-upgrade03:07
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Gui_hm... still no one on how to authorize OpenOffice to reach anywhere in my HD?03:07
Gui_or how to call it from the terminal?03:08
Vexirbytefoo, I enabled the repositorys using the wiki instructions... it still cant access it :-(03:08
bytefoodid you sudo apt-get update03:08
delltonyhttp://pastebin.com/358522 anyone see any problem with this sources.list03:08
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naliothVexir: did you update your apt?03:08
delltonycause when i do apt-get update i get failed indexs on the backports03:08
Vexiruh03:09
matthew_wI've been trying everything..  Is there some way to minimize a fullscreen app so I can see what's going wrong with Enemy Territory03:09
Vexirhow do i update my apt..03:09
MadpilotVexir: if you're using Synaptic, hit the Reload button03:09
bytefoowell there are no breezy backports for one :X03:09
Vexirim doing it now anway03:09
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Vexirokay03:09
bytefoo?03:09
Vexirapt-get updated and synaptic is reloaded03:09
Vexirstill wont find it03:10
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parktownprawnGui_:  you want to run open office from the terminal - type ooffice03:10
bytefoowell it is int here03:10
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Gui_yay, thx parktownprawn03:11
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Gui_I trying sthg else, will try your solution right after03:11
reikiok... hmmm... inserted usb flash drive and nothing happened... am I supposed to DO something when I insert a flas drive?03:11
twigsbydo a search for fglrx in synaptic and see what it finds03:11
jcolehow do i make apt install suggests/recommended packages automatically?03:11
rafterhi I got a ? about memory the system monitor says i am using 185MB out of  600MB. i got 640MB of ram 32MB shared for vidio.I open a terminal run top i get 590MB used +/- 22MB +/- free why the discrepency?03:12
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Webby`How do I upgrade to Breezy Preview Release using commands? I am using Breezy Colony 4.03:12
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about repos03:12
EasterSunshinehey, does ubuntu and kubuntu have the same repos?03:12
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twigsbyyes, they should do03:12
naliothjcole: if you open a terminal and type "man apt-get' you'll get much info (or just use synaptic)03:13
jcolerafter: cat /proc/meminfo03:13
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naliothEasterSunshine: yes they do03:13
bytefooWebby`, I thought Colony 4 was the latest.03:13
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Webby`bytefoo: No, there is a preview release listed at distrowaych.com03:13
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Webby`distrowatch*03:13
bytefooi think it is Colony 4 they are referring to03:14
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Vexirbytefoo, any ideas as to why it cant find the package for the ati driver03:14
bytefoosince it was released like 2 days ago :|03:14
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reiki!usb03:14
ubotureiki: Syntax error in line 103:14
elisboais it possible to install a basic debian sarge via debootstrap and then dist-upgrade it flalessly to breezy?03:14
RootsI thought you were giving a URL in ebonics for a second there Webby` >_>03:14
twigsbyvexir, are you using hoary or breezy?03:14
Webby`lol03:14
Vexirtwigsby, Hoary03:14
fangoriousi just booted the gnome 2.12 livecd, which appears to be running some version of breezy, and i can't seem to change the resolution03:14
bytefooVexir, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all03:14
twigsbyi don't think the fglrx package is named the same as in hoary03:14
oddball_so03:15
Webby`What's the command to upgrade to the Preview release?03:15
oddball_anyone here care to help me with my sound?03:15
Exdaixanyone have an idea why mythtv and mythtv-setup Seg Fault everytime I run it?  I went thru all the setup guides and everything is fine, but it keeps Seg Faulting03:15
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jcolenalioth: i did... no switches in apt-get to do so03:15
twigsbyopen synaptic and seach for fglrx by name and description and see what it finds03:15
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cevizogluhmm... I think I'll wait until the final release.. I installed release 4, and it crashed while installing the bootloader03:15
rafterjcole it coinsides with top output03:15
naliothjcole: use synaptic, and right click on the pkg, look at 'suggested pkgs'03:15
fangoriousi looked at the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it seems to have the resolution I want specified, but using System->Preferences->Screen Resolution I can't set it to anything other than 640x48003:16
nalioth!tell jcole about synaptic03:16
EasterSunshinei want to update to the newest version of gaim, which is like 1.5 or something, without losing my settings, but i do not want to update/upgrade the whole system, what is the command for this?03:16
cevizogluhow many of you are going to dist-upgrade to breezy?03:16
oddball_me03:16
Webby`me03:16
rafterjcole why does the system monitor b so wrong03:16
jcolenalioth: i know about synaptics check box that does that... i want to do it with apt-get since i'm ssh'ed to the machine03:16
Webby`If I can get the command that is ;)03:16
cevizogluhmmm, maybe I will backup and give it a shot  :)03:16
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Vexirbytefoo, okay i downloaded the package.. now what03:17
oleavrdoes anyone know if breezy's xorg is 6.8.2 with backported DRI, or if it's 6.8.99.xx versioned as 6.8.2?03:17
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cevizogluit'll be much more bearable with my new wireless card :D03:17
fangoriousanyone?03:17
delltonyis there an offical breezy source.list?03:17
oddball_brb03:17
Gui_ok, I managed to open one of my files into OOo, thx parktownprawn03:17
bytefooVexir, you should be able to open up a terminal by right clicking, and then typing "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"03:17
parktownprawngreat03:17
bytefooand it should install itself :|03:17
Gui_new problem now: just found out my HD is read-only for Ubuntu03:17
naliothjcole: what i usually do is c/p the "suggested" into the end of the "install blah" line i've got goin03:18
Gui_any easy way to change that?03:18
cevizogluhow about http://archive.ubuntu.com for official03:18
bytefooGui_, linux can not write to NTFS hard drives03:18
bytefoowhich is what XP uses :|03:18
Gui_aha03:18
naliothjcole: but i'm a barbarian03:18
Vexirbytefoo, but it wont! i just tried again! but, i have the package downloaded on my desktop, what do i do with it?03:18
parktownprawngui_: you're running a live-cd ?03:18
Gui_rrrrright03:18
Gui_yes, live CD03:18
Vexirbytefoo, ill navigate to the directory in the terminal03:18
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Vexirbytefoo, but i need ot know the command to install it03:18
Gui_ok, so Ubuntu will only be able to read these files, whichever they are03:18
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MadpilotGui_: if they're in an NTFS drive, yes03:19
fangoriousanyone know how to change the resolution (livecd)?03:19
Gui_Madpilot, they are: files created under Windows03:19
VexirWhat is the command to install a package using the terminal if the package is on the desktop?03:19
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bytefooVexir, you can install the package  you downloaded, but you really need to figure out why it can't install through apt-get or synaptic :|03:20
VexirIs it dpkg -1 <name> ?03:20
monteiroi've a PIV 2,4 with 256 ram, and my mouse have breaks when i execute programs. My mouse is infrared, is the logitech mx 700, anyone can help me ?03:20
fangoriousVexir, you mean an actual .dpkg file? dpkg -i /path/to/file03:20
Gui_ok, so lemme try something else now... thx anyway03:20
Vexirbytefoo, I searched in synaptic for fglrx, it doesnt come up with anything03:20
bytefooand you updated?03:20
Vexirfangorious, its a .deb03:20
Vexirbytefoo, yeah03:20
fangoriousVexir, that's what I meant :)03:20
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MadpilotVexir: there are at least half a dozen fglrx-related files in the repos...03:21
fangoriousVexir, did you search the ubuntu wiki for binary drivers howto?03:21
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ompi have installed e17 following a guide on the forums, but i dont know how to enter e17 instead of gnome03:21
Vexirfangorious, yep.03:21
VexirMadpilot, well i cant find em :) i THINK i enabled the universe repos03:21
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VexirMadpilot, Whether I did it right or not, dont ask me, I just followed the wiki.03:22
Gui_but behold! my USB key, where I saved stuff thru windows, is recognised as read/write/execute! excellent03:22
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fangoriousVexir, have you looked at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249503:22
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Madpilot!+info xorg-driver-fglrx03:22
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB03:22
naliothdamned bots03:22
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bytefooVexir, it is in the restriced repository actually03:22
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Vexirbytefoo, um.. okay.. so how do i enable that one03:22
rafterjcole why does the system monitor b so wrong03:23
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bytefooit should be already enabled03:23
Gui_perfect! Down to work then. Thx again everybody, it's always helpful around here03:23
monteiromy mouse as little stops in ubuntu, i think it's my ps/2 mouse, because my PC is a PIV 2,4 256 ram, and sometimes the mouse has that little stops. anyone knows ?03:23
Vexirbytefoo, well something is quite screwy isnt it.03:24
Vexirbytefoo, regardless, i installed the package using dpkg,03:24
delpi need help installing the flash plug in03:25
Vexirgonna restart.. bbl03:25
rafterjcole top gives me real time stats03:25
delpi tried going by the unofficial unbuntu guide and its still not installing03:25
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Madpilotdelp: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:26
gusto5hey bur[n] er, its me again. is there a GBA-equivalent you know of?03:26
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naliothdelp: the unofficial guide can cause trouble03:28
TwyloFolks, can I say something?  I've been using Linux since 1992 (SLS 0.96, woo).  I've had my ups and downs.  About 20 minutes ago I installed Ubuntu, and it is the best freaking Linux that I have ever used.  Seriously.03:28
nalioth!tell delp about restricted03:28
naliothTwylo: yes, i've found that too03:28
l_I am trying to compile alsa driver but I am getting compile errors03:29
rafterTwylo u have to b joking03:29
TwyloNot at all.03:29
fangoriousanyone? changing resolution?03:29
TwyloI gave up fighting with another distro on my ThinkPad.  Couldn't get my wireless card or audio working.  Ubuntu just came up, boom, worked.03:30
nalioth!tell fangorious about resolution03:30
TwyloAfter 13 years of Linux, I like things to just work :)03:30
naliothTwylo: i've used linux since 97 and i like ubuntu too03:30
l_Twylo, what do you use? or thik is better03:31
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TwyloBefore Ubuntu I was on FC3 and FC403:31
rafterTwylo my biggest problem is getting any linux dist to support a 85 key keyboard03:31
TwyloBefore that, various RedHats.  Before that, Slackware.  Before that, SLS.03:31
wahadi got freee ubuntu disk... can i install it with windows xp ? ..win xp on c and ubuntu on e ?03:31
reikiwhere does one "associate" files... like when I double-click an mp3 I want it to open NOT with Totem (very choppy) but with RhythmBox03:31
BlueEagleOk, a couple of questions. I want CTRL+ALT+RightArrow to launch 3ddesk --gotoright, but keylaunch isn't doing the trick for me. Anyone got any experience with custom hotkeys?03:32
fangoriousnalioth, thanks but my xorg.conf already has the right set of resolutions configured, i just can't seem to use any of them other than 640x48003:32
BlueEagleAlso I would like metacity (or is it nautilus) to relinquish control of the root window.03:32
bytefooi used the custom buttons on my laptop to do that03:32
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bimberi!tell reiki about defaultapp03:32
bytefoobut that deals with acpi and not so much key combinations i think :|03:32
wahadi got freee ubuntu disk... can i install it with windows xp ? ..win xp on c and ubuntu on e ?03:33
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BlueEaglereiki: You can alter the assosiacion by right-clicking and setting it in properties.03:33
naliothfangorious: drastic measures are in order03:33
Madpilotwahad: yes, you can have both on your computer. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo03:33
reikiokies03:33
BlueEaglewahad: is "e" another partition or another disk?03:33
fangoriousnalioth: i'm booting off a livecd, is that going complicate things?03:34
wahadanother patiotn.03:34
aukdoes oo have a restore feature?03:34
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wahadpartition03:34
auk*OOo03:34
rafterTwylo ur thinkpad KB has how many keys03:34
VexirWell didnt work, I still cant make resolution higher than 102403:34
naliothfangorious: not at all03:34
fangoriousnalioth: ok, lay it on me :)03:34
BlueEaglewahad: Yes, you can do that, but be advised the "e" is known as something like /dev/hda3, /dev/hda5 or /dev/hda6 in linux.03:34
BlueEaglewahad: unless you're using a scsi or sata disk in which case it is /dev/sda*03:34
Madpilotauk: what do you mean by restore feature?03:34
BlueEagle(where * is 3, 5 or 603:35
delpis there a reason i can't go to "https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110956"  well i can but it shows up blank03:35
naliothfangorious: open a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  . Most of the questions should just be defaulted, but make sure you have ONLY the resolution you want enabled03:35
wickedpuppyhey guys does ubuntu has word recognition software for tablet pc ?03:35
naliothdelp: sourceforge has been having problems for a while now03:35
BlueEaglewickedpuppy: handwriting recognition?03:36
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Madpilotdelp: that URL works for me right now - Opera 8.02/Ubuntu Hoary...03:36
aukMadPilot: restore lost documents, liek if you shut down w/o saving03:36
delpnalioth: i opened it a minute ago, but now it won't...is there any other way to get gplflash?03:36
matthew_wHey there - does anyone know why Enemy Territory would hang on open under Ubuntu?  I've had it working in Mandriva etc... Just in Ubuntu when I start it it hangs, all I get is a black screen.03:36
BlueEaglewickedpuppy: I think you'd need to google about that, but it would kind of suprise me if it had. :)03:36
wickedpuppyBlueEagle, yes03:36
auk(shutdown computer, not openiffice directly)03:36
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BlueEaglewickedpuppy: Any handwriting recognition that runs on linux will also (most likely) run on ubuntu.03:36
rafterhi I got a ? about memory the system monitor says i am using 185MB out of  600MB. i got 640MB of ram 32MB shared for vidio.I open a terminal run top i get 590MB used +/- 22MB +/- free why the discrepency?03:36
wickedpuppyah i see03:37
Madpilotauk: ah OK. no, I don't think it does that, but I'm not at all certain. check the OOo website?03:37
BlueEaglerafter: cache most likely.03:37
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BlueEaglerafter: Also some memory is locked away in the kernel.03:37
SimpletonHey fellas, might anyone know why, on breezy, apt-get install network-manager requests libcairo1 0.5.2, when .3.0.1 is the latest one released?03:37
Simpleton(and the one installed)03:38
BlueEaglesimpleton: because it's not considered stable or because your cache isn't updated afaik.03:38
reikishould I have to do anything special to have a usb flash drive recognized when I insert it?03:38
aukMadPilot: i'm already doing that, but i thought i'd ask anyways...apparently it /used/ to pop up with the lost document on next tiem you open OOo03:38
onehourtonothingHello, I installed libdvdcss2 and totem but when I play a dvd the video is laggy03:38
naliothreiki: if it works, it should be in /media/03:38
onehourtonothingcan someone help03:38
BlueEaglereiki: Well, you need to have drivers for it. Try sudo fdisk -l and see if it shows up.03:38
nalioth!tell onehourtonothing about dma03:38
reikinalioth: oh... ok... I thought it would "appear" on my desktop like CDs do03:39
wahadi have a whole free e partition as ntfs..do i need the resize thing to have both winxp and ubuntu ? i now have winxp on c partition? . what to do03:39
BlueEaglereiki: ofcourse check the manual of fdisk what -l does so you don't listen to an idiot and whipe your entire drive like I've seen people recomend.03:39
onehourtonothingthank you nalioth03:39
naliothreiki: it might, i just have never had ANYTHING appear on my desktop03:39
Madpilotauk: cool feature - Opera does the same thing with websites if it's crashed or shut down badly...03:39
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rafterthanx BlueEagle i'll have to inform the ppl who develop system monitor03:39
SimpletonBlueEagle, I did an apt-update, but there must be someway to install network-manager?03:40
naliothMadpilot: what has that feature?03:40
Simpletonerr apt-get update03:40
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robotgeekSimpleton: are you on breezy/hoary?03:40
BlueEaglesimpleton: Well, considering you've already got a later version installed it might be a bug with system monitor and the spesific version. However you might want to bug report it.03:40
Madpilotnalioth: auk was saying above the OOo did - or used to - restore after a crash...03:40
bytefoooooh, firefox 1.5 beta O_o03:40
naliothMadpilot: so does galeon03:40
BlueEaglesimpleton: It could just be an oversigth.03:40
BlueEagleght*03:41
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Simpletonrobotgeek: breezy, i just installed it and finally got X to load properly03:41
BlueEaglesimpleton: I mean breezy is still beta isn't it? :)03:41
reikiahhh... ok... I see usbdisk in /media ... doesn't seem to be reading it though03:41
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Simpletonrobotgeek: apparently the dist-upgrade i did messed up my xorg.conf file and i had to redo it03:41
Madpilotnalioth: it's useful for browsers; even the best of them eat bad code sometimes! (I think there's a restore plugin for FF as well...)03:41
aukMadpilot: you mean it does that with form data, or something?03:41
moshedoes anyone know which files xfce draws its menus from?03:41
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SimpletonBlueEagle: Yea, but I heard SO many good things about this network manager, and it wouldnt install on hoary, so :P03:41
mosheI have duplicate menus and I want to cut out the entries that it's drawing from kde.03:41
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BlueEaglesimpleton: It might be broken all together. I've never heard of it. :)03:42
BlueEaglesimpleton: Then again I've never needed it. :p03:42
factotumis there a newer version of firefox than what came with the hoary release, and if so why does apt-get "hold it back"? What do i need to do to install it?03:42
reikioh wait... I formatted it originally from XP.03:42
Madpilotauk: if Opera crashes - or the whole box does - when you restart Opera you'll be asked if you want to restore the previous session, all your web pages & stuff that were open when Opera crashed. it's a cool feature...03:42
bytefooi can't believe they took out the right click > open terminal in gnome :(03:42
SimpletonBlueEagle: it's suppose to be the wireless network connection manager for breezy03:42
aukhmmm...03:43
cevizogluMadpilot: Epiphany does that as well03:43
SimpletonBlueEagle: Said to follow the "Just Works" philosphy, and will allow easy roaming like on XP with the Zero Configuration service03:43
bytefooNetwork Selector?03:43
afaikhello... I have linux installed on a dell inspiron 1100 laptop, and it seems to get VERY HOT! I tried several linux distributions, the same problem occurs. I don't have this problem when I boot to windows, so I am assuming this is perhaps some configuration issue03:43
naliothMadpilot: opera is not FOSS. galeon is03:43
afaikany ideas?03:43
aukthis looks bad03:43
BlueEagleWhat I do need is someway to make CTRL+ALT+Right arrow to launch 3ddesk --gotoright03:43
rafterBlueEagle ur right i got 284 +/- cached03:43
afaikgaleon is crap anyway03:43
moshegaleon used to be cool03:43
BlueEaglerafter: :)03:43
afaikthat's why they went to the gecko engine03:43
mosheoh, those were the days03:43
afaikanyway, any ideas?03:43
aukin the forums, i found someone sayign to check tools > options > load/save > general > always make backup copy03:43
BlueEaglerafter: free -mt usually makes the numbers add up (more correctly) iirc03:44
robotgeekSimpleton: it will work on breezy, though you might have to cvs compile it03:44
auki happen to have "aoutosave every __", but not that one03:44
rafterk03:44
auk(i have checked, that is)03:44
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ompshh03:44
ompahh03:44
ompenlightenment is retarded03:44
BlueEagleafaik: Tried disabling acpi?03:44
ompi installed enlightenment and ended up messing gnome03:45
ompnow im stuck with it :/03:45
Simpletonrobotgeek: Won't the cvs compile still require the libcairo1 package? Even the package directory on packages.ubuntu.com tells me im SOD, with a "package unavailable" on the requirements page next to libcairo103:45
afaikBlueEagle, I have no idea what acpi is03:45
robotgeekSimpleton: just do a "sudo apt-get build-dep network-manager" and then cvs compile it. worked for me03:45
BlueEagleafaik: advanced controllable power interface (or some such)03:45
BlueEagleafaik: You can disable it by passing acpi=no to the kernel I think. If not you can definatly disable it when you install your custom kernel.03:46
delpwhere is the best place to extract files that you are going to be installing using terminal commands?03:46
afaikBlueEagle, ah.. what's the ubuntu way of installing a new kernel?03:46
afaikor how can I just pass acpi=no to the kernel?03:47
bytefooi would say /tmp03:47
bytefoo:/03:47
Simpletonrobotgeek: I hate to be a bother, but how do I go about performing a cvs compile after that step? I'm still learning my way around the terminal03:47
aukYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!03:47
BlueEagleafaik: cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make && make modules_install && cp arch/i386/boot/bzimage /boot/kernel-2.6.11c && gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf  <= add your kernel here.03:47
robotgeekSimpleton: are you gonna be around after an hour or so? i need to go away now!03:48
auki am such an idiot though03:48
Simpletonrobotgeek: Most likely not :( Gotta sleep soon, school starts far too earliar here03:48
afaikBlueEagle, oh, I knew that03:48
BlueEagleafaik: You need to install kernel sources first though.03:48
afaikI just thought it may be special like debian is03:49
robotgeekSimpleton: the instructions are in the readme file, pretty straightforward03:49
oleavranyone with hoary who could please send me /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a? :)03:49
oleavr(want to try an ugly hack on my breezy system)03:49
Simpletonrobotgeek: There is readme file?03:49
BlueEagleafaik: Well there might be "another way"(tm) but It might not be "a better way"(tm) still. :)03:49
BlueEagleI want to get ctrl+alt+rightarrow to run 3ddesk --gotoright03:50
BlueEagleanyone at all?03:50
BlueEaglekeylaunch just won't do the trick for some odd reason. :(03:50
VexirGAIM is annoying... i like trillian better... is there any way to get trillian on Ubuntu03:51
rafterBlueEagle how are u @ keyboards ubuntu does not give me an option for a 85 key KB lots of apps dont work well because i had to chose the 102 key KB03:51
Ex-Cyberhow can I erase and write a CD-RW through nautilus?03:51
reikihmmm... /media is no longer showing the usb flas drive but fdisk -l seems to be showing it to me as /dev/sda103:52
transgress_is there not a command to configure sound?03:52
VexirEx-Cyber: Take a sharpie and eraser and fish for a nautilus.03:52
transgress_i could've sworn there was03:52
BlueEaglerafter: You'll need to try someone else or perhaps your favorite search engine. :)03:52
BlueEaglerafter: However I would believe that 85 key kbds would be supported in atleast us/uk layout.03:53
naliothreiki: i've found that ubuntu isnt quite there yet for multiple USB/fw pluging/unplugging03:53
reikinalioth: can ubuntu read FAT16 by default?03:53
naliothreiki: yes it can03:54
rafterBlueEagle had no luck in 2 years searching just thought i ask thanx03:54
delpi have tried three times to install gpflash so i can have flash plug in in firefox and still have no luck, can someone help me?03:54
delltonyif you mount it it can03:55
delltonymount -t vfat03:55
BlueEaglenever mind. It was just a syntax error :)03:55
reikinalioth: ok I'll have to test this flash drive tomorrow on a windows box at work. When I first inserted it, it showed up under /media, but wasn't seeing any files.03:55
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BlueEaglerafter: Well, I'm sorry I can't help. :)03:55
naliothdelp: the wiki article ubotu sent you didnt help?03:55
reikinalioth: may have gone through the washer and drier one too many times03:55
delpi tried that and it didn't work nalioth03:55
naliothreiki: that could be an issue03:55
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rafterBlueEagle: don't b sorry it will b worked out some day :)03:56
naliothdelp: what is your hardware? are you running amd64 or ppc ubuntu?03:56
delpamd6403:57
delpnalioth, amd6403:57
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Mr_Youwow no gnoppix channel?03:57
Mr_You#gnoppix03:57
delpnalioth: and i went by the 64 processor instructions and it still won't work03:57
nexus-hmmm03:58
naliothdelp: lots of things dont work on amd64, like they should03:58
VoXheh03:58
VoXnod03:58
naliothdelp: i dont have a -64, so am not able to help you on that03:58
VoX<-- has issues with his amd64 aswell03:58
BlueEagleNow, anyone know how to make metacity or nautilus (which ever is in charge) relinquish control of the root window so I can run /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root in it?03:58
delpnalioth: so i will have to be without a flash plug in?03:58
naliothdelp: or use the k7 or 686 kernel03:58
VoXewww03:59
nexus-is it safe to force dependency on this?03:59
nexus-http://pastebin.com/35854503:59
delpis anyone that is running a amd64 able to install a flash plug in for firefox?03:59
VoXbugger going to a k7 kernel just for flash03:59
nexus-im trying to get debian testing's wpasupplicant binary03:59
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nexus-apparantly the ones ubuntu have are broken03:59
BlueEaglenexus-: It probably won't kill you, but it might f**k up your system. :)03:59
Mr_Youman I think gnoppix/unbuntu on a Live CD is faster than XP.04:00
VoXdelp: i dont think it's possible. i've been trying to get a few things running under amd64, without much success.04:00
BlueEaglemr_you: Then there's something seriously wrong with your XP setup. :)04:00
naliothdelp: VoX: more than flash wont run on amd6404:00
nexus-BlueEagle, well i probably don't care with breezy on the horizon ;)04:00
BlueEaglenexus-: Well there you go. :)04:00
VoXnalioth: heh i've noticed :P04:00
rafterBlueEagle: elaborate on that04:01
delpnalioth: it sucks04:01
VoXdelp: it's to be expected04:01
BlueEaglerafter: on what?04:01
delpmaybe the next release of ubuntu will support amd64 more04:01
rafter/usr/lib xscreensaver/glmatix04:02
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BlueEagledelp: It's not an ubuntu problem but rather a linux problem. You see most production houses (in this case macromedia) tend to release software for windows first. Now, as you may or may not know, 64-bit architecture is quite new and even the windows versions have got bugs that need ironing out. This takes resources away from the linux development process.04:03
onehourtonothing so I get lag when I watch movies and someone sent me a link for dma. That fixed it but it doesn't work when I reboot, and I did what the page says, it still doesn't work04:03
BlueEaglerafter: You can run a screen saver in the root window (desktop window) of X, however metacity or nautilus comandeer the root window and show their own (in this case not so nice) graphics there.04:04
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BlueEaglerafter: If you try other windowmanagers that don't comandeer that window you can run /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root to put it in the root window for added eye candy points with the lads.04:04
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Ufahi all04:05
apeitheoMy friend has Ubuntu, is installing it on his Powerbook and the cd apparently works when he's in the OS, but not when he attempts to boot it.  Any ideas what it could be?04:05
BlueEaglerafter: There shoul (as in ought to be) a way to have metacity or nautilus release the root window so you could do that very same thing in gnome.04:05
BlueEaglerafter: I just don't know how.04:05
apeitheoThis is the PowerPC edition of Ubuntu04:05
BlueEaglerafter: That good enough? :)04:05
naliothapeitheo: check the md5 sums on the cd04:06
apeitheonalioth: These were cds I got in the mail04:06
paulproteusapeitheo: What sort of problem does he experience?04:06
BlueEagleapeitheo: Is his powerbook set up to boot from a CD?04:06
Ufahow do i change my IP from dinamic to static04:06
apeitheopaulproteus: It just won't boot04:06
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paulproteusapeitheo: Has he held down the Option key while booting to select boot device?04:06
apeitheoBlueEagle: I'm guessing that's the problem, but I don't have a mac, hence I have no idea how he would do that.04:06
Ufai did ifconfig but it didnt work04:06
mik3what's that game that is a first person shooter04:06
apeitheopaulproteus: He probably didn't do that.04:07
BlueEagleapeitheo: I bet TFM would know. Ask him to read it. :)04:07
onehourtonothingHow do I turn on dma so that it begins on every start up04:07
naliothapeitheo: in that case, check the md5s. some of the run of cds were not pressed correctly04:07
paulproteusapeitheo: Tell him to. :)04:07
mik3what's the apt-get install name of that first person shooter i keep hearing about04:07
elmo_Can anyone help with a boot error that is preventing me from booting? "pivot_root: no such file or directory" and " /sbin/init:428:cannot open dev/console: no such file"04:07
apeitheopaulproteus: He said he has.04:07
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paulproteusapeitheo: In that case, tell him to check the CD as others said to.04:07
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nfinitep1astikhello everybahdy!04:07
apeitheopaulproteus: "i held it down the whole time and tried it a few times"  "it seems like it just doesnt recognize the disc"04:07
apeitheopaulproteus: But would a cd I got in the mail from shipip (for ubuntu) be bad?04:08
apeitheoshipit*04:08
paulproteusapeitheo: There's always the chance, however small.04:08
BlueEagleelmo_: Souns like your / partition isn't where someone expects it to be. Could also be devfs (if such is used) that isn't installed properly in the kernel.04:08
mik3what's the apt-get install name of that first person shooter i keep hearing about04:08
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apeitheoHow would he check the md5 for the cd?04:08
nfinitep1astikubuntu automatically plays ogm and mkv files?04:08
BlueEaglemik3: ut2003? gunz?04:08
BlueEagledoom3?04:08
afaikHalo 204:08
delp_can someone tell me how to sign back in as my primary name04:09
rafterBlueEagle: i foget what i dled but my screesaver is really awsome than the default gnome xsreensaver i dled mostly libs.04:09
afaikapt-get install Halo204:09
BlueEagledelp_: on IRC?04:09
mik3BlueEagle: no it's a free game04:09
delp_some how i got kicked but its still signed on04:09
delp_yes04:09
BlueEaglemik3: cube?04:09
elmo_blueeage: is that some way to set the root location and fix it? I am a noob. do not know about devs.04:09
afaikgotta make sure you add the Warez repository to your apt.sources of course! :P04:09
paulproteusapeitheo: In Mac OS, find out the device name for the CD, then do "md5sum /dev/<devname>"04:09
mik3it's a first perosn shooter that doesn't require a lot of resources, i think it's made by the wolfenstein people04:09
paulproteusmik3: Doom?04:09
BlueEagleelmo_: What caused this problem to start?04:09
mik3is doom free?04:10
mik3=D04:10
afaikit is now04:10
poningruofcourse04:10
mik3wakakaka04:10
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afaikcause it is, like, only 15 years old04:10
naliothdelp_: /msg nickserv help ghost04:10
nfinitep1astikdoes ubuntu automatically install video and sound codecs?04:10
BlueEaglemik3: enemy territory? That would be et or wet iirc try apt-cache search wolfenstein04:10
afaikor therea abouts04:10
mik3yes enemy territory04:10
Webby`Can someone tell me when is the command to upgrade to the preview release?04:10
poningrunfinitep1astik: only free ones04:10
onehourtonothingHow do I turn on dma so that it begins on every start up. I tried and failed... :(04:10
Webby`I mean What is the command04:10
poningruyou have to install the non free ones04:10
nalioth!tell Webby` about upgrade2breezy04:10
Webby`Thank you nalioth04:11
nfinitep1astikponingru: lol....well, thanks to torrent files,that line is blurred04:11
poningrunfinitep1astik: free as in freedom not free as in beer04:11
elmo_BlueEagle: I tried adding a second hd, a slave to the master that has ubuntu on it. I got no response from grub. I then removed the 2nd hd and tried just booting again. Now I have these errors. thanks for the help.04:11
nfinitep1astikponingru: lol, nice metaphor04:11
poningruubotu: tel onehourtonothing about dma04:11
ubotuponingru: No idea04:11
poningrudma04:12
poningru!dma04:12
poningruwtf04:12
poningrudoh04:12
onehourtonothing!dma04:12
poningruubotu: tell onehourtonothing about dma04:12
rafterBlueEagle: i do my best work when i'm drunk get nice results just cab't remember how04:12
poningrurofl04:12
BlueEagleelmo_: Is your primary harddrive set to Cable Select or spesifically to Master?04:12
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zblachhi04:12
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delp_can someone kick, not ban, delp...its my primary nick, so that way i can sign back on as it?04:12
poningruyou just got your ass flooded04:12
BlueEaglerafter: :)04:12
BlueEaglerafter: Cheers then!04:12
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disasmdelp_: msg nickserv, theres a ghost command04:12
onehourtonothingok so I went to the site everyone just told me about04:12
onehourtonothingand added it in but it didn't work04:12
BlueEagledelp_: If you closed the link it will time out.04:13
rafterBlueEagle: :)04:13
gusto5is anyone here familar with VMware?04:13
naliothdelp i sent you the info04:13
BlueEagledelp_: You could try /ping him so he would time out faster.04:13
naliothdelp: use 'ghost'04:13
disasmdelp_: oh, and kicking from the channel won't work, delp would need killed, which I don't there are any opers in this channel04:13
gusto5does VMware allow me to run Windows within Linux, or Linux within windows?04:13
poningruubotu: tell nfinitep1astik about restricted04:13
disasmgusto5: either/or04:13
gusto5disasm, ok. thanks :)04:13
nfinitep1astikanyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?04:13
poningrunfinitep1astik: that site should have a guide that tells you how to install mp3s etc.04:13
disasmi hate netsplits and having to re-reg every dang time ;-)04:14
zblachhi. a question about sound. I get the drums when the log-in screen loads, but when I run xmms, i get a popup telling me that my sound is not configured correctly. how to rememdy?04:14
gusto5( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.304:14
poningruonehourtonothing: what do you mean it didnt work?04:14
Quinthiuszblach: go to xmms preferences and set outpug plugin to esound04:14
disasmzblach: are you using gnome or something else?04:14
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elmo_BlueEagle: hd set to cs04:15
onehourtonothingI booted again and dma was off again04:15
gusto5sorry, just checking my kernal...04:15
onehourtonothingI added what it said to hdparm.conf so that dma would be turned on when I booted04:15
zblachdisasm, gnom04:15
nfinitep1astikanyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?04:15
zblachQuinthius, do i need to restart xmms?04:15
BlueEagleelmo_: Well that might have confused it as grub might have mistaken it for a different drive. Try setting it spesifically to master.04:15
poningruonehourtonothing: you sure you edited under sudo?04:15
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BlueEagleelmo_: If that does not work you might need to re-install grub.04:16
poningrugo to the file and see if its still therer04:16
poningru-r04:16
onehourtonothingponingru: yes04:16
poningruhmm04:16
poningruweird04:16
onehourtonothingponingru: it is still edited after the boot04:16
delp_is there a way to set up a bookmart or a shortcut to certain irc servers, like on your desktop or in firefox...i know its possible in xp, but not sure about in linux04:16
delp_*bookmark04:16
Quinthiuszblach: don't think so, but maybe04:16
onehourtonothingponingru: I might just suck at editing and may have done it wrong04:16
zblachQuinthius, nothing doing.04:17
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Quinthiuszblach: go to system -> preferences -> multimedia selector, on audio output, hit test... does it beep?04:17
nfinitep1astikponingru: oh btw.....thanks for the link04:17
BlueEagleelmo_: To re-install grub: Boot from ubuntu install cd, mkdir /oldinstall, mount your linux partitions there and chroot /oldinstall /bin/bash then run grub and root (hd0,X) and setup (hd0)04:17
BlueEagleelmo_: That should fix it (most likely)04:17
poningrunp04:18
zblachQuinthius, for every option in every column "failed to construct pipeline"04:18
Webby`! Webby` about upgrade2preview04:18
ubotuWebby`: What?04:18
Webby`! Webby` about upgrade04:18
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Webby`04:18
Webby`! Webby` about upgrade2breezy04:18
ubotuWebby`: Syntax error in line 104:18
nalioth!tell Webby` about upgrade2breezy04:18
poningruWebby`: what are you doing?04:18
Quinthiuszblach: hmm. go to system -> pref -> sound, and make sure "enable sound server" is unchecked, and then try testing ALSA in the media selector again04:18
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Webby`I'm trying to upgrade from Breezy Colony 4 to Breezy Preview release and it;s not working04:18
zblachQuinthius, nope. still not working04:19
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naliothWebby`: you need do nothing. your system will upgrade itself (if you let it)04:19
Chaotic_RealityHas anyone gotten a buillt-in CF card reader to work on their laptops in ubuntu? if so, any tips?04:19
Webby`nalioth: Oh ok. Thanks04:19
Quinthiuszblach: ok... sounds like there might be some problem with the driver for your card.... you say you hear the drums at the startuo screen though?04:19
delp_is there a way to set up a bookmark or a shortcut to certain irc servers, like on your desktop or in firefox...i know its possible in xp, but not sure about in linux04:20
zblachQuinthius, yup. got drums no problem04:20
nfinitep1astikanyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?04:20
naliothdelp_: irc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu  you mean?04:20
Quinthiuszblach: hmm... actually... was "enable sound server" checked or unchecked by default when you just went to it?04:20
zblachit was enabled, but i had fiddled with it earlier04:21
delp_yeah, but when i do that in linux it says irc is not a registered protocol04:21
naliothdelp_: edit your protocol list04:21
naliothdelp_: (i dont know how, just that you can)04:22
delp_nalioth:  haha, thanks04:22
Quinthiuszblach: well the two common combinations are: enable sound server + use ESD in media selector, or disable sound server + use ALSA in media selector04:22
zblachneither work for me04:22
delp_how do i edit my protocol list?04:23
Quinthiuszblach: can you "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" ? (turn your speakers down a little, it will generate static noise)04:23
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naliothdelp needs help editing his protocol handlers04:23
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zblachQuinthius, bash: /dev/dsp: Permission Denied04:24
poningru!protocol handlers04:24
ubotuponingru: What?04:24
zblacheven as sudo04:24
poningruyour mom04:24
poningru!protocol04:24
ubotuponingru: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:24
zblachubotu, tell poningru about your mom04:24
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Quinthiuszblach: ls -l /dev/dsp04:24
delp_i'm the one that needs help04:24
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Quinthiuszblach: and also do "id", make sure audio is listed04:24
naliothdelp_: patience04:25
delp_nalioth: i was just saying that so they would get the right name04:25
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h17m4nwhat's the difference between winex and wine?04:25
naliothdelp_: they know04:25
communicohey, does anyone know if I have to install anything before I can mount my raid5? I'm reading about something called mdadm but I don't know if I need it with ubuntu or not04:25
naliothh17m4n: -x costs money04:25
Quinthiuszblach: it sounds like a permission problem. using sudo in front of the cat shouldn't work either, because the > would br redirecting the whole output of "sudo cat /dev/urandom" ...the sudo isn't affecting the write attempt to /dev/dsp04:26
h17m4ncan't you get it as CVS free?04:26
transgress_how bad is breezy broken atm?04:26
transgress_was thinking about giving it a test04:26
str8edgei'm using breezy right now..04:27
str8edgesound is problematic..04:27
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str8edgeother than that its pretty good04:27
naliothtransgress_: same tune from me, dont use it on a production machine, but it's not too shabby04:27
nfinitep1astikanyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?04:27
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Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. Ubuntu isn't wanting to pick-up my iPod at all, even as a hard disk.04:28
nfinitep1astiki'll rephrase it....can anyone help me install vlc without apt?04:29
BlueEaglecommunico: You don't need mdadm. What you need is to load the raid drivers (md and raid5) which might be modules. If they are you can A: put them in /etc/modules or B: compile them into your kernel. I prefer the latter.04:29
Carpe_Libertatemnfinitep1astik: why do you need to do that?04:29
elmo_BlueEagle: I have set the hd to master. grub boots ok. but I am still getting the pivot_root and /sbin/init errors. Any ideas?04:29
transgress_nalioth: cool.  well this is for a laptop to toy with.  so if it is actually running and not crashing every 5 minutes it's cool04:29
transgress_it's due out like next month isn't it?04:29
nfinitep1astikapparently, apt doesn't have the package for vlc anymore when i try to install it04:29
cafuego!info vlc04:30
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB04:30
_kurtgood day!04:30
Carpe_LibertatemMaybe your repositories aren't set right?04:30
cafuegoEnable 'universe'.04:30
l_If i paste the eoors on pasta site I am getting when trying to compile alsa will someone have a look at it?04:30
nfinitep1astikcafuego: but it doesn't install... =/04:30
cafuegonfinitep1astik: Any useful error messages you care to share or don't you want help? ;-)04:31
naliothtransgress_: preview release one is rumored to come very soon04:31
naliothtransgress_: final release oct 13 or thereabouts04:31
nfinitep1astikcafuego:  one sec04:31
transgress_cool04:31
BlueEagleelmo_: No, not really, sorry. I've never had that problem with any distro and certainly not with ubuntu. :)04:31
cafuegonalioth: I told volvoguy to ask you about hfs+ and parted04:32
communicoBlueEagle: thanks! what command would I use to compile them into the kernel?04:32
elmo_BlueEagle; Thanks for the help nonthe less.04:32
nfinitep1astikcafuego:  says that it cant find the package04:32
naliothcafuego: is it your day off?04:33
elmo_Can anyone give me any ideas on were I can get help on a boot error involving pivot_root?04:33
cafuegonfinitep1astik: Did you previously have it installed on that machine?04:33
cafuegonalioth: I wish. I'm looking for things to kick.04:33
naliothcafuego: pillows04:33
cafuegonalioth: No, they would need to actually be destroyed04:33
BlueEaglecommunico: install the kernel-sources of your kernel, cd /usr/src/linux and make menuconfig there. Setup your kernel with that tool and compile with make && make modules_install then copy arch/i386/boot/bzimage /boot/custokernel-2.6.11 and edit /boot/grub/grub.conf to have an option for that kernel.04:34
nfinitep1astikcafuego: i had it installed on my non-ppc machine04:34
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cafuegonfinitep1astik: And now on PPC it won't install? yes, probably there is ni PPC vlc, because the codecs it uses are mainly x86 code.04:34
cafuegonalioth: speak of teh devil :-)04:34
nfinitep1astikcafuego: good point.....i guess there wouldn't be an alternative?04:35
volvoguywhat'd you call me? ;)04:35
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cafuegonfinitep1astik: *maybe* mplayer04:35
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Artxecould someone help me with installing LimeWIre?04:35
cafuegovolvoguy: I told nalioth about that email not 5 minutes ago :-)04:35
nfinitep1astikcafuego:  thanks. ^.^d04:35
matthew_wWhere do I find the folder XFREE86... or rather the config file associated therewith?04:35
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elmo_can anyone suggest who or were I can get help on a boot error "pivot_root:no such file or directory"?04:35
str8edgeelmo_: pivot root usually means that the drive identifiers in /etc/fstab are incorrect. are you using sata?04:36
volvoguyso nalioth, is there anything special i need to do to resize an hfs+ partition during install?04:36
cafuegonfinitep1astik: it will (again) not support most of the win32 codecs like realvideo  and avi stuff.04:36
Artxecould someone help me with a java problem with LimeWire?04:36
nfinitep1astikcafuego: totem wont be flexible....will it?04:36
elmo_strBedge: I am noob, what is sata?04:36
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cafuegonfinitep1astik: Dunno, I'm just happy I have DivX working in QT7 on OSX now.04:37
naliothvolvoguy: please preface your msgs with the nick first (otw, it doesnt trigger the bell)04:37
nfinitep1astikcafuego: lol....good watchin then =D04:37
communicoBlueEagle: there's no linux folder in my /usr/src/ dir, just an rpm dir04:37
naliothvolvoguy: new-world-mac?04:38
volvoguynalioth, sorry. didn't know that. i seem to get triggered whenever my nick is in a sentence.04:38
RichardCthe Point2Play installer said the OSS and ALSA tests failed.  Anyone know how i can fix this?  Do I need to install a package or two?04:38
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volvoguynalioth, G4 iBook.04:38
str8edgeelmo_: Serial ATA04:38
naliothvolvoguy: are you familiar with parted?04:38
volvoguynalioth, fairly.04:38
Sonny_WertzikDoes anybody here use xine?04:39
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ArtxeWould anyone here be able to help me with LimeWire?04:39
volvoguynalioth, that's not on the install disk though, is it?04:39
naliothvolvoguy: the only 'trick' is gonna be: as soon as the installer boots completely to the start, you'll need to ctrl-alt-f2 to a new terminal to use parted04:39
nfinitep1astikvolvoguy:  dont mean to jump in on ya but did you say you used a ibook g4?04:40
naliothvolvoguy: the other option is to use a ppc livecd and run qt- or g- parted04:40
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h17m4nAll of this to install wine? :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999604:40
volvoguynalioth, ahh. ok.04:40
naliothnfinitep1astik: lots of us use macs here04:40
volvoguynfinitep1astik, yep. i have an ibook.04:40
h17m4n!wine04:40
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h17m4nwish me luck people04:40
ArtxeCould someone help me with a java problem?04:40
BlueEaglecommunico: Did you install kernel sources?04:41
naliothArtxe: ask us and see04:41
nfinitep1astikwhats a good media player to use since i've never run ubuntu on ppc04:41
h17m4nhere I go into a few hours of apt-gets and stuff04:41
volvoguynfinitep1astik, i don't use it much for linux because the last i checked, airport extreme cards still weren't supported.04:41
naliothnfinitep1astik: there are many, use them all and keep what you like04:41
Sonny_WertzikDoes anybody here use xine?...anybody?04:41
BlueEaglecommunico: They go there by default, however I am not sure if ubuntu puts them somwhere else as I haven't rolled a kernel in ububtu yet. :)04:41
naliothvolvoguy: supported wifi dongles are cheap04:41
h17m4nBefore I go into installation04:41
nfinitep1astiknalioth: that's where i run into a problem where i cant install vlc from apt. =/04:42
cafuegovolvoguy: I doubt they'll EVER be supported unless someone does an ndiswrapepr for OSX drivers. (Which, considering they're freebsd, shouldn't be THAT hard)04:42
volvoguynalioth, the only one i've seen confirmed to work was some Dlink thing, and only a particular version of it. are there more now?04:42
h17m4nQuestion: Should I install Wine on the original distro(AMD64) or should I install it in chroot?04:42
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cafuegoh17m4n: In a chroot.04:42
ArtxeI have installed LimeWire and it needs Java so I downloaded the latest version of Java and unpacked it and I now have the j2sdk1.4.2_09 file. Well LimeWire looks for Java in the /usr folder so I put j2sdk1.4.2_09 in there and when I "sh ./runeLime.sh" it says it can't find Java.04:42
communicoBlueEagle: sorry I'm a real noob. how do you install the kernel sources?04:42
h17m4ncafuego, thx man... so I should run dchroot -d before starting right?04:42
naliothvolvoguy: prism54.org i believe04:43
cafuegoArtxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:43
ArtxeOK thank you04:43
naliothnfinitep1astik: what problem is that particularly?04:43
volvoguynalioth, cool. thanks. i'm off to download a colony4 ppc disc. :)04:43
naliothvolvoguy: dont do that04:43
nfinitep1astiknalioth: apt says that it cant find the package =/04:43
cafuegoh17m4n: You can run dchroot -q -d /path/to/wine "C:\\\Program Files\\\Appdir\\\App.exe"04:43
nalioth!tell nfinitep1astik about sources04:43
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volvoguynalioth, i'm a laptop tester. i'm my job. :o)04:43
cafuegoh17m4n: Note the triple backslash.04:43
naliothvolvoguy: get a hoary cd, the installer is broken for ppc (when i last looked)04:44
h17m4ncafuego: but that's after I install wine in chroot right?04:44
volvoguynalioth, ok. maybe i'll start with hoary and upgrade. it's the breezy stuff the devs are most concerned about these days.04:44
naliothvolvoguy: i have colony-4+2 (daily) and the installer is hosed for ppc04:45
cafuegoh17m4n: indeed04:45
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h17m4ncafuego: thx! now let me get to work :)04:45
steeevcool - i got my mpeg4 playing in vlc04:45
steeevgod knows how04:46
elmo_strBedge: the hd is an ide. I feel like I am sinking here. I am not sure on serial ata. my bios shows that the hd is the master ata listed device04:46
volvoguynalioth, ok. i'll install hoary first and report on the experience, then try breezy. i don't mind a non-functioning breezy install attempt if it helps wrinkle out the bugs.04:46
steeevreading wiki helped:)04:46
naliothsteeev: must be the clean living04:46
naliothvolvoguy: the bug is known and has been reported several times04:46
naliothvolvoguy: either way, knock yourself out04:46
volvoguynalioth, ok.04:46
steeevi have progressed from vegetable to protozoa04:47
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volvoguynalioth, thanks. :) it'll be for the benefit of mankind. last time i looked on the laptop testing pages, there weren't any recent ibook testers.04:47
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nfinitep1astiknalioth: thanks j004:47
khermansis there a DEVEL channel?04:48
naliothnfinitep1astik: np04:48
cafuegoyes04:48
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khermanswhat is the devel chan?04:49
elmo_strBedge:there?04:49
seroshikiwhere is sources.list located again?04:49
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khermansseroshiki, /etc/apt04:49
Madpilotkhermans: ubuntu-devel04:50
CarlFK /etc/apt04:50
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BlueEaglecommunico: sudo synaptic and have a look there. :)04:50
naliothubotu: tell seroshiki about sources04:50
khermansahh i tried ubuntu-del04:50
seroshikithank you04:50
khermansahh i tried ubuntu-dev04:50
patrickjhey Im in the live cd and I need to burn some music off my window partition because I dont know how to restore my windows install because it is messed04:50
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khermanspatrickj, gnome cd burner04:50
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elmo_I am look for help on a boot error "pivot_boot:no such file or directory'? takers?04:51
patrickjis it built into the cd drive, or is there a safe way to restore my XP install without losing my apps and st00f?04:52
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BlueEaglepatrickj: how did you mess it up?04:52
khermanspatrickj, yeah if there data is there it shuld be recoverable04:52
patrickjinstalling Ubuntu dual boot, I have a 160Gb HD and I tore a 40Gb chunk out for it04:52
BlueEaglepatrickj: And don't try to fool us, we know it's your collection of g0at pr0n you want to save. :)04:52
patrickjwell I have some personal files that I need to burn04:52
patrickjlol no its all the err Legal music i downloaded04:53
BlueEaglepatrickj: :)04:53
BlueEaglepatrickj: If you say so. *rolls eyes*04:53
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Milk_good evenin!!04:53
Milk_anyone here ever tryied to use gnomad?04:53
khermanspatrickj, nautilus-cd-burner04:54
patrickjanyways the cd burner isnt on the livecd, can I install stuff in it04:54
patrickj?04:54
gusto5hi04:54
gusto5im installing vmware04:54
khermansMilk_, yes, it is okay04:54
BlueEaglepatrickj: How did you mess you your windows installation?04:54
gusto5im getting this04:54
gusto5The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.04:54
gusto5What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running04:54
gusto5kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 04:54
boygeorge1196#list04:54
Madpilotpatrickj: for most data, Nautilus - the file manager - will burn CDs04:54
patrickjokay cool :d04:54
BlueEaglepatrickj: I would attempt to fix it before starting to try to burn stuff off the install cd. Either that or get a knoppix disc going. :)04:54
patrickjthanks04:54
patrickjim on the Ubuntu live cd....04:54
patrickjhow can I fix it, is there someone who can help me04:55
patrickj?04:55
naliothpatrickj has no spare burning drive04:55
boygeorge1196i'm using ubuntu04:55
patrickjI have 2 cd burners04:55
BlueEaglepatrickj: Well, I cannot help you fix it unless you tell me how you broke it.04:55
Milk_khermans, did you have any troubles getting it to work?04:55
patrickji dont know how04:55
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khermansMilk_, it is a bit flaky and inefficient04:55
patrickjbut it gets to login screen and goes to my blank coloured wallpaper and does nothing04:55
khermansMilk_, but if you know its quiks, you will be fine04:55
Milk_khermans, got any better solutions?04:55
patrickjand I was just install freebsd, but i needed some help with my ubuntu and windows fixing :/04:55
khermansMilk_, not really, the stupid Zen crap is not a standard mountable FS04:56
BlueEaglepatrickj: Well, I cannot help you fix it unless you tell me how you broke it.04:56
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khermanslike the iPod04:56
gusto5The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.04:56
gusto5What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running04:56
gusto5kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 04:56
Milk_khermans, I can't seem to get it to connect at all04:56
khermansMilk_, just follow the online guide at gnomad's site04:56
patrickjBlueEagle: I just resized the partition down by 40gb with PM8, then installed FBSD and went to boot into windows and it didnt104:56
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Milk_did you install from source.. or from apt?04:57
BlueEaglepatrickj: I see. Have you got ubuntu installed?04:57
communicoBlueEagle: okay, I'm there ... is there something in the list in particular I should be installing? I found an entry linux-kernel-headers, but no sources04:57
patrickjand I tried to resize the HD fully in PM8 and it gave me an error "Drive dismounted improperly"04:57
patrickjim on the ubuntu live cd04:57
khermansMilk_, i think i tried both ways04:57
BlueEaglecommunico: Well, you need the sources. Let me see if I can find them for you.04:57
khermansMilk_, the one in apt is a bit outdated i think -- bu it worked for me i think04:57
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Milk_khermans, I've installed all the packages from apt, but it won't connect to my zen usb04:58
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khermansMilk_, you know that i might have compiled this one from source or specified to grab it from debian unstable repos04:58
Milk_kermans, I think I need to setup the hotplug stuff, but I can't find the nomad.usermap file04:58
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patrickjif I burn a cd with nautlius using drag and drop, will windows be able to read it too?04:58
khermansMilk_, try to get 2.8+, 2.6.3 is old04:58
sn0npatrickj, of course04:58
bimberipatrickj: yes04:59
patrickjalright, ill just back my st00f up then, cyaz :p04:59
communicoBlueEagle: much appreciated04:59
BlueEaglecommunico: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1104:59
Milk_2.8+ kernel?04:59
BlueEaglecommunico: If you haven't got it you might need to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list04:59
khermansMilk_, no versionof gnomad04:59
BlueEagle(different kind of sources that) :)04:59
Milk_what is the debian unstable repos?04:59
khermansMilk_, http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/?04:59
Milk_let me try it05:00
elmo_Is there any way to access a install of ubuntu on a hd without booting it directly? can I boot from live cd or other had and read the damaged hd to fix the errors?05:00
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khermansMilk_, http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/?section=article05:00
BlueEagleelmo_: Yes.05:00
khermansElBarono, boot knoppix or something05:01
khermansdoh @ elmo_05:01
mik3what are some other free fun games05:01
BlueEagleboot from a livecd. Make /ubuntu then mount /dev/yourdisk /ubuntu for all the disks/partitions you've got ubuntu installed on then chroot /ubunty /bin/bash05:01
mik3besides doom05:01
mik3lxdoom sucks, sound won't work05:01
khermansMilk_, if you go from source -- grab the dependps first05:01
BlueEaglemik3: Running with esd?05:01
elmo_BlueEagle: How? I tried with live cd and could not find the path to hd? hey khermans I am a noob and not very proficient with this linux stuff!05:01
mik3BlueEagle: esd?05:01
Milk_I already installed the newest of the lib05:02
khermanselmo_, you need to mount your windows partition right?05:02
BlueEagleelmo_: as root fdisk -l (that will list all harddisks found)05:02
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BlueEagleelmo_: If it isn't listed there then tell me what kind of disk you're using.05:02
BlueEagleelmo_: ...well you can tell me about your disk anyways.05:02
arutell me about your disk...05:02
khermanselmo_, type "mount -t ntfs -o ro,users,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /mnt/foo"05:03
BlueEaglemik3: enlightnment sound daemon (or something else starting with e)05:03
BlueEaglemik3: It's gnomes way of handling sound. (Some consider it an utter piece of crap though)05:03
khermanselmo_, that assumes your partition is ntfs05:03
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fangoriousnalios: hey, the reconfigure didn't help05:03
h0sl3rIs there a program like Windows Media Center for unix?05:03
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khermansh0sl3r, vlc05:03
naliothfangorious: did you log out and back in afterward?05:03
fangorioush0sl3r, mythtv05:03
h0sl3rkhermans: whats it like?05:03
aruh0sl3r: whats windows media center do?05:04
cyphasewhoa05:04
BlueEagleh0sl3r: Isn't windows media center a cut down version of windows XP?05:04
khermansh0sl3r, oh you mean for recording things?05:04
cyphaseBlueEagle, cut down and tweaked05:04
fangoriousnalioth, yeah. i switched to vt1 and killed gdm before running it05:04
khermansh0sl3r, yeah try mythtv05:04
h0sl3raru: it gives easy access to all videos, music, and other stuff. Supposed to be use on a tv screen.05:04
aruoh05:04
naliothfangorious: not much else to do with the livecd05:04
cyphasei almost lost my server05:05
fangoriousnalioth, bummer. thanks anyway05:05
cyphaseat least i thought i almost did05:05
mik3esd is already installed =/ what are some other fun games05:05
h0sl3rkhermans: no not for recording tv. just for watching movies on my tv through computer. I dont have mouse or anything so I dont want to have to click around to get a movie playing.05:05
cyphaseit sure looked like someone had gotten in05:05
BlueEaglemik3: I know it is installed. Just because it is installed doesn't mean you have to use it. :)05:05
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cyphaseand done a rm -rf /05:05
khermansh0sl3r, oh just use vlc05:05
khermansh0sl3r, or mplayer or xine or totem05:06
elmo_kherman: the hd is ubuntu, giving me a boot error: "pivot_root:no such file or directory" and "/sbig/init:428:cannot open dev/console:no such fle"05:06
BlueEaglemik3: system->preferences->sound uncheck "enable sound server at startup"05:06
mik3BlueEagle: ok well, if it's installed then why is doom being a nimrod05:06
mik3oh05:06
mik3why not enable it?05:06
mik3i like sound05:06
mik3=D05:06
mik3it's like music to my ears05:06
mik3LOLOLOMFG!05:06
BlueEaglemik3: System->Preferences->Multimedia selector  Choose alsa instead of ESD05:06
khermanselmo_, what is happening??05:06
mik3ok05:06
Milk_ok... building from source05:07
BlueEaglemik3: Will probably disable the annoying beeps and burps gnome makes when you open or close a window but I consider that an added bonus. :)05:07
mik3Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'05:07
mik3wkakakaka05:07
BlueEaglemik3: You might need to restart gnome.05:08
Quinthiusmik3: did you make sure to uncheck sound server first?05:08
mik3=/05:08
mik3no05:08
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mik3hehe05:08
mik3</alcohol>05:08
Quinthiusmik3: do that first05:08
BlueEaglemik3: You didn't uncheck sound server? o.O05:08
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BlueEagledo as I tell you already! :)05:08
Quinthius"sound server" = esd ... which while running will mess up alsa :P05:08
mik3so uh esd is no good eh? but my music will still play?05:09
naliothBlueEagle: easy there05:09
BlueEaglenalioth: ;D05:09
mik3nalioth: no he's right, i was being difficult05:09
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mik3still didn't work, the rascal!05:10
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mik3so does this mean no mp3 for me? =/05:10
BlueEaglemik3: Music will still play, however you might need to add support for restricted media like mp3 and other licensed codecs.05:10
BlueEaglelisences*05:10
elmo_grub boots, finds kernel, kernel starts, ubuntu starts, but stops giving errors that I gave you in last post.05:10
mik3or i could just run bmp, and confirm that mp3's do indeed still play.05:10
mik3which means my bukkake does too.05:10
mik3i mean05:11
mik3my anime05:11
khermanselmo_, what is your goal?05:11
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BlueEagleby "ubuntu starts" does the X-server start or init start?05:11
mik3so will i have to restart gnome?05:11
elmo_It just says ubuntu start. then the errors05:11
Milk_THERE IT GOES!!05:12
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dabaRhi./05:12
Quinthiusmik3: shouldnt have to, those options should take effect right away05:12
BlueEaglemik3: You might need to restart gnome after disabling the sound server, yes.05:12
elmo_khermans: goal: for the hd to boot ubuntu, as it has been for the last week, no problems.05:12
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BlueEaglemik3: But as quinthius sais you shouldn't have to but knowing esd (evil sound daemon) you might need to.05:12
Quinthiushehe05:12
mik3doom reminds me of the old days, i call them the dark ages, lets move on. what are some other fun games05:12
khermanselmo_, on x86 or amd64?05:12
elmo_khermans:x8605:13
Quinthiusmik3: neverball05:13
mik3en route, over.05:13
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SomebodySHey can someone help me quick?05:13
volvoguynalioth, i know there's no defrag directly in OS X. do i need to do anything special before i attempt this partition resize?05:13
khermanselmo_, look in /var/log/messages05:13
SomebodySIve just installed, but ran into some errors...05:13
naliothvolvoguy: measure twice, cut once05:13
BlueEaglesomebodys: If you told us which errors that might be helpful...05:13
naliothvolvoguy: i did it on my imac the other day, w/o any trouble05:14
SomebodySnow after I boot into ubuntu I end up at brian@ubunto05:14
BlueEaglein the text mode console?05:14
SomebodySI dont even get to the GUI05:14
volvoguynalioth, hehe. :) the bootloader stuff is taken care of automatically?05:14
mik3what's neverball about05:14
BlueEaglesomebodys: login with the username and password you specified then try typing startx05:14
dabaRSomebodyS: this is likely due to your graphics card. What is the brand?05:14
naliothvolvoguy: oh you want MORE info? lol05:14
mik3it sure is a biggun!05:15
mik3on dialup05:15
SomebodyShow can I get the the GUI05:15
SomebodySI did05:15
D1how do I reconfigure my network with ubuntu?05:15
mik3aol dialup05:15
volvoguynalioth, with a gig of ram, do you think 500Mb of swap is sufficient?05:15
D1like the ncurses dialogs I got during install?05:15
BlueEaglesomebodys: Did the x-server give you an error message?05:15
SomebodySIm logged in and it takes me to the command prompt05:15
Milk_khermans, I got it to connect, but it crashed, now its not working, any ideas?05:15
elmo_khermans:I am currently booting the system with live cd. once it has booted. then I will attempt to look at the hds contents, if possible. Any specific directions for this process?05:15
volvoguyyeah. i'm sure an apple channel will love helping me install linux. thx.05:15
SomebodySI dont think I had any x-server errors, but When I was installing I had buffer errors05:16
dabaRSomebodyS: how about an answer for me?05:16
khermansMilk_, hrmm what crashed?05:16
D1anyone?05:16
BlueEaglesomebodys: Well what happend when you typed startx on the commandline?05:16
khermansMilk_, give it time -- it might be doing stuff05:16
Milk_khermans gnomad05:16
mik3dude what's neverball about05:16
thoreauputicvolvoguy: unless you plan video editing or similar, 500MB swap is ample05:16
SomebodySoh.. lets see, older computer the graphics card is a Nvidia 420005:16
SomebodySlemme try05:16
Quinthiusmik3: http://icculus.org/neverball/05:17
volvoguythoreauputic, thank you.05:17
BlueEagledabar: I use auto completion.05:17
thoreauputicnp05:17
SomebodyShmm I get errors on startx05:17
SomebodySgonna type error up 1 sec05:17
dabaRSomebodyS: off course. Did you get the link from ubotu?05:17
BlueEagledabar: completion_nicks_lowercase = ON05:18
SomebodyShmm do I need to be connected to the net for startx? lol just remembered computer Im trying on doesnt have access to the net05:18
BlueEaglesomebodys: No you do not.05:19
dabaRBlueEagle: usually when after an install there is no X started, it is a graphics card issue, I find.05:19
khermansMilk_, let it go -- if it seems broken -- make sure its not an old version05:19
BlueEaglesomebodys: startx simply attempts to start the x-server.05:19
dabaRBlueEagle: why does it have no access to the net?05:19
khermanselmo_, i am still very confused05:19
bur[n] erSomebodyS: startx has nothing to do with net05:19
dabaRsorry, SomebodyS whyu is it not connected to the net?05:19
khermanselmo_, if you want to access your linux partition, just boot knoppix and mount it05:19
BlueEagledabar: I don't know. Ask somebodys. :)05:19
SomebodySwell the error says linXau.so.6 cannont open shared object file: No such file or directory05:19
Milk_khermans, Its now saying no jukebox found05:19
dabaRSomebodyS: you need to set up the nvidia driver, and the link that ubotu sent you will do this.05:20
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dabaRSomebodyS: now, did you get the link from ubotu?05:20
khermansMilk_, google it05:20
bur[n] er!tell SomebodyS about nvidia05:20
khermansMilk_, ahh did you read the HOWTO setup guide?05:20
SomebodySyep05:20
SomebodySI got link05:20
SomebodySthanks05:20
Milk_khermans, yes05:20
dabaRD1: what, for pppoe?05:20
khermansMilk_, added the USB id?05:20
D1just regular ethernet05:20
QuinthiusSomebodyS: looks like that is a typo, should be lib, not lin05:20
BlueEagledabar: It seems that linxau.so.6 isn't a graphics issue to me. What do you think?05:21
khermansMilk_, what version you running?05:21
QuinthiusSomebodyS: or was that your typo?05:21
Milk_2.5.005:21
Milk_it recongised it once05:21
dabaRD1: there is no such thing. regular ethernet. What is your ISP?05:21
SomebodySits lib05:21
SomebodyStypo05:21
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Quinthiusah okie05:21
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khermansMilk_, that version is way too old05:21
D1its the thing where it asks for a hostname/dhcp/etc05:21
dabaRD1: and, also, do you use a router? and if not, tell us about the model of your network device.05:21
khermansMilk_, get 2.8.1 if you can05:22
dabaRD1: I cant help you if you dont wanna help yourself.05:22
Milk_I tried compiling from source and had problems with the install05:22
khermansMilk_, what was the error/05:22
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Milk_khermans, let me try again05:22
khermansMilk_, during ./configure?05:22
D1my setup is fine, this is for a friend. hes trying to figure out a way to configure his wifi card permanently05:22
SomebodySwell now that I think of it I dont think it is a display driver problem.... Im ran into the sam prob on my other computer05:22
D1so I need some sort of netconfig to do it05:22
SomebodySand the graphics card is ATI05:22
khermansMilk_, you need the dependency libs first as well05:22
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SomebodyScould the CD be bad that I burnt?05:23
BlueEaglesomebodys: Did you check the md5sum of the CD?05:23
SomebodySnope05:23
Milk_I should have them..05:23
BlueEaglesomebodys: Well that might be a good idea.05:23
BlueEagle:)05:23
kaliasnickrud: Hi!  how is life?05:23
Mr_Youis it possible to switch desktops with key strokes in GNOME?05:23
khermansMilk_, it might need newer libs05:23
bytefoof1-f405:23
nickrudkalias, interesting as in ... :)05:23
khermansMilk_, just tell me the compilation errors05:24
dabaRD1: Mr_You yes.05:24
Milk_heres the error05:24
khermansMilk_, priv them05:24
dabaRD1: nm.05:24
dabaRMr_You: yes.05:24
BlueEaglesomebodys: try to md5sum the .iso you downloaded and compare to the published md5-sum.05:24
Milk_configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0                    gthread-2.0                 gtk+-2.0                    libgnomeui-2.0         libnjb) not met05:24
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kaliasnickrud:  Are you keeping busy and out of trouble ;)05:24
BlueEaglemr_you: Yes.05:24
thoreauputicMr_You: ctrl-alt- arrow I think05:24
SomebodySso assuming that there is no hardware problems with my computer the cd should install and when its done I should boot the Ubuntu in the GUI interface?05:24
khermansMilk_, ok you need the devel versions of these libs05:24
lemurIs this the official irc chan for ubuntu?05:24
Mr_Youthank you very much05:24
SomebodySgonna check md5sum05:24
thoreauputiclemur: yes05:25
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nickrudkalias, currently my life is nearly nothing but trouble, so I am keeping very busy05:25
Milk_khermans, will apt work for that?05:25
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khermansMilk_, aptitude search glib | grep -i devel05:25
BlueEaglemr_you: ..or you can do as I have done. apt-get install 3ddesk and apt-get install keylauncher and set keylauncher to use ctrl+alt+rigth to run 3ddesk --nozoom --gotoright05:25
lemurthoreauputic: I'm happy to be hear.  I haven't tried the distro yet, but I'm scouting.  It's next on my list.05:25
elmo_khermans: I really appreciate your help. I tried to add a hd to my ubuntu system. I just pluged it into the serial cable. I did nothing with the hd jumpers on either hd0 or the 2nd hd. the system would not boot at all. so I took off the 2nd hd and left my original hd0 on the system. hd0 has ubuntu installed and has been workign fine untill now. Now the errors loading ubuntu. I already gave the errors to you. I am at a loss as well.is knoppix a05:25
elmo_lite linux i can download? can I mount the hd from the live ubuntu? I already have that running05:25
BlueEaglemr_you: and the left arrow to --gotoleft :)05:25
lemur*here05:25
kaliasnickrud: that keeps life interesting :)  Hey, do you know anything about the serial modules that run serial ports?05:25
thoreauputiclemur: well, welcome :)05:25
BlueEaglemr_you: It gives you added niceness points with the laddies. :)05:25
matthew_wI'm wondering something about my system configuration.  Every app I run that's processor or video intensive runs like a SLUG, even when I have 5-7 times the "system requirements"... any ideas why this might be?05:25
lemurthere is a livecd, correct?05:26
thoreauputiclemur: correct05:26
nickrudkalias, a bit05:26
lemur:)05:26
nickrudwhat's the question ;)05:26
khermanselmo_, yeah you should be able to05:26
kaliasnickrud: Well if I do a modprobe serial  I get Fatal: serial module not found.05:26
elmo_khermans: how?05:26
khermanselmo_, is it ext3 ?05:27
Milk_khermans, I did that and installed all listed05:27
Milk_still same config error05:27
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thoreauputic!tell lemur about download05:27
elmo_khermans: yes05:27
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khermansMilk_, only need to install the libglib2.0-dev05:27
matthew_wBasically it's just things that run extensive video like fames05:27
matthew_wgames*05:27
BlueEagleelmo_: mkdir /ubuntu && mount /dev/hdX /ubuntu && chroot /ubuntu /bin/bash05:27
Milk_khermans, it says its installed05:27
KanRiNiNso, I downloaded the ATI driver installer, ran it, and then rebooted, and when I did fglrxinfo, it's still mesa...help please05:27
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KanRiNiNforums haven't worked05:27
lemurWhat does ubuntu have to offer for the debian user?05:27
khermansMilk_, glib2 error should go away05:27
khermansMilk_, now find the others05:28
Milk_its not05:28
BlueEagleelmo_: Might need to change X to the partition number and if you have got other partitions you might need to mount them on the appropriate places in the /ubuntu tree.05:28
thoreauputiclemur 6 monthly releases05:28
thoreauputiclemur: and virtually th e same number of packages05:28
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bimberilemur: a marginally less grumpy support channel :)05:28
thoreauputiclemur: plu generally easier setup05:29
kaliasnickrud: Aren't the serial drivers supposed to get loaded automatically by the kernel?05:29
BlueEaglebimberi: But for how long? :p05:29
nickrudkalias, after refreshing my memory ;) there's a bunch of serial modules, for different uses, none called serial05:29
thoreauputic*plus05:29
konengim having a problem running Ethereal. It asks for my root password, i enter the password for my acccount and it doesn't work.  do i need to create a root password to be able to run this program?05:29
matthew_wbimberi;  not grumpy - elitist.  lol05:29
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a-l-p-h-aAnyone know how to mount a SATA software raid0 NTFS drive?05:29
matthew_w"So, I'm actually not using debian but..."   *kick'd*05:29
lemurbimberi: I am discovering this as we speak.05:29
thoreauputickoneng: try running " sudo ethereal "05:29
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BlueEaglekoneng: If it asks for a root password (a flaw if you're running it with sudo) then you need a root password to provide it.05:30
matthew_wlemur; for the love of God don't mention anything about any OS but Debian in #Debian.05:30
thoreauputickoneng: or gksudo ethereal05:30
konengthoreauputic, you're a genius ;) that worked, thanks05:30
thoreauputickoneng: :)05:30
thoreauputicyw05:30
khermansMilk_, aptitude install libgnomeui-dev libgtk-dev libnjb-dev05:30
kaliasnickrud: okay, here is the problem that I have.  I am trying to run a program called brickos.  It talks to an infrared device over the serial port.  However, I can't seem to make the serial port go.  I chatted to another fellow last night and he figure it might be a serial module problem.05:30
nalioththoreauputic: you taking your smart pills today?05:30
bimberimatthew_w: he just did :)05:30
thoreauputicnalioth: heheh05:31
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lemurWell, it's the community that's starting to win me over.05:31
thoreauputicnalioth: at least I've had some sleep ;)05:31
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Kyral!topic05:31
BlueEaglelemur: I should keep my mouth shut then? :)05:31
khermansMilk_, anytime there is a configure error -- it usually means that you dont have the dev headers installed05:31
Milk_ok05:31
khermansMilk_, did you lessen the errors after installing that stuff?05:32
Milk_I'm installing it now05:32
thoreauputicKyral: try  /topic  ;)05:32
lemurBlueEagle: Please do. :)05:32
nickrudkalias, ah, good, I don't know a thing about infrared, or brickos :)05:32
BlueEaglehmmm is there a way to have gnome-terminal (or anyone else stealing the combo) pass alt+right to the terminal?05:32
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matthew_w#Debian is fine, as long as you're talking about pure pure debian.  Like talking about a pseudo-leftism at a republican conference.05:32
kaliasnickrud: basically it was trying to talk to ttyS0 or ttyS1 and it kept saying that they didn't exist.05:33
Milk_khermans, its going now05:33
nalioththoreauputic: what are you insinuating?05:33
Milk_new error05:33
khermansMilk_, the configure?05:33
SomebodyShmm checksum of the iso is the same05:33
SomebodySGuess im gonna check the cd now05:33
khermansMilk_, and?05:33
SomebodySmaybe it burnt wrong...?05:33
kaliasnickrud:  how do I check out if they (the serial ports) are working?05:33
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naliothSomebodyS: try burning slower05:34
BlueEaglekalias: What does /dev say about stty0 and stty105:34
BlueEagle?05:34
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nickrudkalias, stick a known working external modem on the port, open minicom, and type at05:34
lemurIn a political sense, I would view both projects as essentially leftist.  I hope I'm not entirely incorrect in proposing an analogy that ubuntu is to communism what debian is to...um..oligarchy. ^_^05:35
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nickrudthat's how I'd do it, I don't have any other test equipment05:35
thoreauputiclemur: heh /j #politics ;-)05:35
lemurI might take you up on that offer05:36
thoreauputic:)05:36
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gusto5anyone familar with vmware?05:36
matthew_wdebian's closer to some fascism that's actually a fascism, not just one that CNN says is a fascism.05:36
hajikii need help, the gnome volume applet can see my sound card and the volume is up. but i dont hear anything. i have a sb audigy 2...05:36
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lemurbut, what is true fascism, if you don't mind my asking?05:36
kaliasnickrud: hmmm..not sure if I still have an external modem around, I will have to take a look.05:36
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CarlFKlemur - I am sure someone in #politics can anwer that ;)05:37
thoreauputiccome on guys, be nice to Debian - Debian is Ubuntu's Daddy05:37
BlueEaglelemur: Are you accusing debian of being run by the mob? :p05:37
nicedreamshow do you view and disable services in Ubuntu?  I want to not have apache2 boot up with ubuntu...05:37
kaliasnickrud:  where do I look in /dev to tell about ttys0 and ttsy1?05:37
nickrudkalias, BlueEagle has a good point as well05:37
matthew_wlol the mob05:37
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nickrudls /dev/ttyS<tab>05:37
matthew_wOkay, well I suppose not really fascism, just one of those high school cliques.05:37
CarlFKnicedreams - just install it (via apt get) and it will take care of runnign on boot05:37
cevizogluhow do I get Ubuntu to use my belkin wireless 802.11G nic?05:38
matthew_w"I'm sorry, we're strongly opposed to new ideas, open-mindedness, and non-Christians."  lol05:38
KyralReally quick question05:38
lemurI think I'm staying on topic. :)  I don't think #politics wants to hear about linux distributions05:38
BlueEaglenickrud: Well, actually I don't. I've got both serial ports disabled in the bios but /dev/ttys still show up on my box.05:38
thoreauputiclemur: heh05:38
matthew_wlemur; what os are you running now?05:38
Kyralif I do a server install with Breezy Preview, does it install a sound system or do I have to do that?05:38
nicedreamsCarlFK: I have apache2 installed and I installed ssl-explorer and now I don't want apache2 to startup with Ubuntu.  How do I do that?  I only know how to stop it from /etc/init.d/05:38
nickrudBlueEagle, heh05:38
lemurmatthew_w: Fedora Core on this machine, but I have another running debian stable.05:38
kaliasnickrud: It displays alot of ttySxx devices.05:38
CarlFKah, you dont want it to.  um... i du no.05:38
nickrudnever tried that05:38
nickrudkalias, best test is the modem, i think05:39
matthew_wlemur; I was never a big fan of fedora/redhat.  Ubuntu was the first distro I actually stuck with.05:39
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kaliasnickrud: okay I will see if I can find one.  Back in a bit.05:39
BlueEaglekalias: Did you try sudo modprobe serial_cs05:39
BlueEagle?05:39
BlueEaglekalias: It's the only module I found in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/serial05:40
matthew_wFrom this information can anyone tell me if I'm missing a package or something:  AMD athlon 1600+ (1.4GHz) 600+mb ram, 32mb Nvidia GeForce2 MX --  yet the most "extreme" game I can play is "NetHack" because all others lag me so badly I can barely close them without restarting X.05:40
BlueEagle(you might not have -686 if you're running the default 386 kernel)05:40
kaliasBlueEagle: sudo modprobe serial_cs comes back with nothing.05:41
naliothmatthew_w: you running the k7 kernel?05:41
lemurAnyway, I'd explain my reasoning to the extent that communism a la leninism was an organization that was controlled by a single party that calls the shots but at the same time encourages community participation.  Now that I think about it, though, I'd think Redhat/Fedora is more fitting of that title.05:41
BlueEaglematthew_w: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep nv05:41
matthew_wnalioth; probably not.  In retrospect I think it's the default.05:42
BlueEaglematthew_w: Does that show Driver "nv" or Driver "nvidia"?05:42
lemurEspecially since I get the impression that they encourage community participation in production but not management.05:42
lemurOkay, I'm done.05:42
thoreauputiclemur: most linux distros have elements of that, really05:42
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BlueEaglekalias: lsmod|grep serial05:42
matthew_wBlueEagle; It returns driver "nvidia"05:42
nicedreamsanyone know how to disable services?05:42
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BlueEaglekalias: modprobe doesn't confirm that it succeeds installing the module (but does give errors when it fails)05:42
thoreauputiclemur: but I think we are closer to anrchism ;)05:43
lemuromg, and they're called "red" hat05:43
KanRiNiNQuestion:  the package specific button on the ATI installer is below the bottom menu.  that is, it is too long for my 1024 screen res, and cannot resize.  any temp fix to thsi????05:43
thoreauputic*anarchism05:43
volvoguyhey, i added something in the sessions dialog that my system doesn't seem to like. does someone know where that setting is stored so i can get rid of it via the console?05:43
BlueEaglematthew_w: glxinfo|grep OpenGL05:43
matthew_wnalioth; would the kernel really create a difference in performance of video etc?05:43
naliothmatthew_w: the k7 is tuned for athlons05:43
BlueEaglematthew_w: Does that give you something about Mesa?05:43
thoreauputiclemur: of course if you are Ghenghis Khan everything looks "leftist" ;-)05:43
kaliasBlueEagle: serial_cs               9628  005:43
naliothmatthew_w: dont know much about video05:44
lemurthoreauputic: indeed05:44
BlueEaglekalias: Well, then your serial port driver should be installed.05:44
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matthew_wBlueEagle; no, returns 3 things about my video card, then OpenGl Extensions:05:44
BlueEaglekalias: ofcourse you should have lsmod|grep serial before modprobe-ing to see if there was any difference.05:44
KanRiNiNanybody know how to temporarily add desktop space without resizing screen rez?  I'm maxed out05:44
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BlueEaglematthew_w: and all about nvidia and no mesa?05:44
matthew_wKanRin; workspaces?05:44
BlueEaglematthew_w: What does glxgears give you 3rd time around?05:44
matthew_wBlueEagle; all Nvidia.05:45
SomebodySYep I think the Cd is definatly bad.. I cant MD5Checksum on 3 files on the CD-the because they cant be Read....05:45
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Vaske_Carhello05:45
KanRiNiNI need a bigger workspace though matthew_w.  the ATI installer app needs longer than my screen rez for me to see the options05:45
SomebodySanyone want a coaster :-)05:45
KanRiNiNdang...05:45
kaliasBlueEagle: okay, I think the next thing is to attach a modem if I can find one.05:45
Vaske_CarWhat mean "~" on the end of the file?05:45
matthew_wKanRinin; err... dunno :S  sorry05:45
BlueEaglekalias: That might be a good idea. :)05:46
Vaske_Carfo example test.txt~05:46
thoreauputicKanRiNiN: buy some old monitors and make a video wall ;-)05:46
KanRiNiNit's just a damn driver...grr...never had this problem in FC3.05:46
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SomebodySthanks for help all... g'night05:46
hajikican 4.03 be upgraded to 4.10?05:46
BlueEaglematthew_w: Try glxgears and let it run for 15 seconds and see how many frames it can churn out.05:46
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thoreauputichajiki: 4.03 never existed05:46
matthew_wCan I get the K7 Kernel from synaptic?  More appropriately, when I get the K7 kernel from synaptic, will it show up in Grub without me having to edit anything?05:46
hajikican hoary be upgraded to breezy?05:47
NoUsematthew_w yes to both counts05:47
bimberiVaske_Car: probably editor backup files (i know gedit created them for instance)05:47
thoreauputichajiki: do you mean 4.10 --> 5.04 ?05:47
BlueEaglematthew_w: Yes you can and yes it will.05:47
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bimberi*creats05:47
bimberigah05:47
NoUse!upgrade2breezy05:47
ubotuhmm... upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces05:47
matthew_wBlueEagle; 10fps05:47
fatpeltevening all.  i've added backports to my sources list and did and update, but i still don't see a package that should be there (mono).  could it be that there is no package for my arch (x86_64)?  does apt check that kind of stuff ?05:47
imnesHow can I delay network initialization durring bootup (on breezy), I'm on a laptop and usually not connected to any networks when I boot.05:47
BlueEaglematthew_w: Ouch. Which graphics card was this again?05:47
BlueEaglematthew_w: ...and which system processor?05:48
bimberifatpelt: yes it does check the arch05:48
matthew_wBlueEagle; Nvidia GeForce 2 MX -- I've gotten much better performance from m$ with it though, so I'm inclined to think it's a software issue.  Also, I'm using a K7 AMD Atlon 1600+05:48
fatpeltbimberi:  is there an way to ask apt-cache to show me even for other arches (just so i can see if that is really the case)?05:48
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Mr-FalkorWhen Is breezy released ?:)05:49
thoreauputicfatpelt: no, apt-cache seaches your sources05:49
CarlFKfatpelt http://packages.ubuntu.com05:49
imnesmatthew_w: that's with the commercial nvidia driver?05:49
matthew_wMr-Falkor; October.05:49
bimberifatpelt: i think you need to install and use apt-file or you can do a search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:49
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well, I've got better results on my geforce2 MX with 32MB ram. It was on a P3 500 though.05:49
kaliasBlueEagle:  Can I direct the keyboard output to a serial port?05:49
matthew_wimnes; yep.05:49
CarlFKkalias - keyboard output?05:49
matthew_wBlueEagle; yep that's the one, 32mb05:49
Mr-Falkormatthew_w, should I upgrade to the test version ?05:49
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BlueEaglekalias: not sure. if you want to send at-commands use minicom or what ever the name was.05:50
matthew_wBlueEagle; would the k7 kernel help, you think?05:50
kaliasCarlFK; yes, I press a key, it gets echoed to the port.  Just basic stuff.05:50
bimberifatpelt: mono on i386 and powerpc i'm afraid05:50
fatpeltbimberi/thoreauputic/CarlFK: ah it says only i386.  i don't suppose there is a way to install it anyway (i'd assume not as that might be an unsafe thing to do)05:50
matthew_wMr-Falkor; Not unless you're really, -really- --REALLY-- sure of what you're doing.05:50
matthew_wMr-Falkor; or you're extremely masochistic.05:50
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well, a k7 kernel on a k7 processor doesn't sound like non-sense :)05:50
Mr-Falkorah05:50
Mr-Falkorhehe05:50
cevizogludoes it make sense to download a Win XP driver for my wireless NIC to work on a Mac PowerBook?05:50
CarlFKkalias - how about a term program?05:50
bimberifatpelt: yes, using an i386 chroot ...05:50
matthew_wBlueEagle; DUUHH OK *drooldrool* -- I'll download that now.05:50
BlueEaglematthew_w: But I've never used a k7 processor so I wouldn't know. :)05:50
bimberi!chroot05:51
ubotuI guess chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457505:51
Mr-FalkorAnyway,.. do I need to reinstall my distro if I change to a AMD64 and a new mainboard ?05:51
kaliasCarlFK: yes that would work.  I will see if there is one installed.05:51
matthew_wBlueEagle; is it safe to uninstall the old kernels I don't use?05:51
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fatpeltbimberi: SWEET!05:51
matthew_wMr-Falkor; probably you will just need new kernels.05:51
Mr-Falkormatthew_w, so I will get a kernel panic then ?05:51
kaliasWhat linux program is a terminal emulator?05:51
BlueEaglematthew_w: As safe as removing headlights from a car you only drive in revers. (My analogies suck when I am tierd don't they?)05:51
Mr-Falkormatthew_w, how can I install a new kernel if i get a kernel panic ?:P05:52
cevizoglukalias: Terminal05:52
cevizogluMr-Falkor: boot into safe-mode05:52
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n3trunnerhmmm....i'm having trouble with my flashplayer...i've tried installing by apt-get and downloading the player from macromedia, its just the same..05:52
matthew_wMr-Falkor; over my head :(05:52
Mr-Falkorah :)05:52
matthew_wMr-Falkor; sorry05:52
Mr-Falkormatthew_w, no problem05:52
NoUsen3trunner what kind of problem?05:52
matthew_wBlueEagle; stupid question -- what would I search for when I'm looking for the k7 kernel?05:53
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kaliasokay, how do I send characters to a serial port?  Sorry for the simple questions, I haven't done this before :(05:53
matthew_wbecause kernel doesn't work -_-05:53
BlueEagleo.O05:53
thoreauputicmatthew_w: apt-cache search linux-image05:53
CarlFKkalias - minicom05:53
Mr-FalkorShould I run AMB64 on a i386 or on a 64 ubuntu ?05:53
Mr-FalkorAMD05:53
Mr-Falkorerr05:53
n3trunnerNoUse: like when i visit www.macromedia.com... the menu name at the top wont appear...05:53
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kaliasCarlFK: I guess I have to install that one.05:53
cafuegoMr-Falkor: Depends on whether you want flash, java applets, dvd, divx...05:54
Mr-Falkorah :/05:54
communicoBlueEagle: everything went well, but I got stuck at this point "then copy arch/i386/boot/bzimage /boot/custokernel-2.6.11 and edit /boot/grub/grub.conf to have an option for that kernel." because their was no bzimage file in that folder05:54
Mr-FalkorI`ll just plug and crash !:P05:54
BlueEaglematthew_w: linux-k7 would be a good bet I guess.05:54
bimberi... wine, mono, ...05:54
thoreauputiccommunico: erm - don't use 2.6.11, please05:54
n3trunnerNoUse: generally, text wont apear...plus even sound doesn't work...05:54
thoreauputicit's broken05:54
cafuegomono runs find on AMD64, thanks.05:54
BlueEaglecommunico: It might be bzImage05:55
matthew_wBlueEagle; okay I'm installing that image - I'm using 2.6.10 not .11 because I'm fairly uncertain that 2.6.11-k7 isn't so stable05:55
bimbericafuego: in chroot?05:55
cafuegobimberi: No, just as is.05:55
n3trunnerI can't even read anything on the flash Settings...05:55
fatpeltbimberi/thoreauputic/CarlFK: thank you all so much!  have a wonderful night!05:55
BlueEaglecommunico: anyways just type cp arch/i386/boot/bz and press TAB to auto complete.05:55
cafuegobimberi: I've been running beagle on amd64 for ages.05:55
communicothoreauputic: BlueEagle told me to install it :)05:55
thoreauputicmatthew_w: 2.6.11 is broken05:55
bimbericafuego: no hoary packages tho05:55
fatpeltcafuego:  you didn't have to do a chroot to get mono up?05:55
thoreauputiccommunico: well, it is known to have deep problems05:55
matthew_wthoreauputic; well good thing I chose 2.6.10 lol05:55
cafuegobimberi: No, breezy here.05:56
cafuegofatpelt: Not on breezy, no.05:56
BlueEaglethoreauputic: how is 2.6.11 broken when you roll your own?05:56
matthew_wBlueEagle; once I download this.... what do I have to do with it... *NUB*  lol05:56
bimberiahh, there you go fatpelt05:56
h17m4nhmmm do I really need to install wine on chroot?? seems some users installed it it in 64 bit.... But would that only allow them to run 64 bit windows apps?05:56
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thoreauputicBlueEagle: ah -n that might be OK, don't know: the Ubuntu one is definitely broken though05:56
fatpelthehe.  thanks again everyone!05:56
BlueEaglematthew_w: if you apt-get install it then you reboot and choose the -k7 option in grub (shoul be added automatically)05:56
fatpelti'm tring the crhoot now.05:57
matthew_wWell I guess I'll reboot05:57
BlueEaglethoreauputic: I see. Thanks for the heads-up.05:57
matthew_wBrb!05:57
bimberifatpelt: ok, sry for that gap in my knowledge (tks cafuego)05:57
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Are you in the know as for when 2.6.13 or 2.6.12 is added?05:57
Mr-FalkorDoes Gnome 12 work faster than gnome 10 ?05:57
thoreauputicBlueEagle: I think 2.6.12 is in Breezy05:58
kaliasBlueEagle: okay, success.  I downloade minicom and when I hit the keys I can see the light on this ir device turn green, that implies that my serial ports are working.05:58
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Breezy is still beta, right?05:58
Mr-FalkorCuz Gnome 10 feels like Im wearing heavy boots05:58
BlueEaglekalias: Well there you go. :)05:58
thoreauputicBlueEagle: yup - th epreview just came out05:58
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wickedpuppyBlueEagle, 2.6.12-8-386 thats my current breezy kernel05:58
BlueEaglekalias: add serial_cs to /etc/modules to have it load automatically every time you boot05:58
thoreauputicBlueEagle: release in October05:58
CarlFKkalias - yep. somewhere is a "echo to screen" option in minicom05:58
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Well, imo they should be able to patch up 2.6.13 by that time, but then again I don't know how many patches ubunty sticks in. :)05:59
thoreauputicBlueEagle: the  freeze is already in place05:59
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Good thing I got a jacket then... ?06:00
kaliasThanks guys :)))  I will continue with the brickos stuff now and see if I can get it working.06:00
thoreauputicBlueEagle: so I don't think 2.6.13 will be in Breezy06:00
communicothoreauputic: all I'm tring to do is setup a raid06:00
communicoBlueEagle: hmm, it still can't find any bz file06:00
communicoI'm looking in the directory now06:00
thoreauputiccommunico: beyond me, I'm afraid - I have no experience with raid06:01
communicoBlueEagle: is there a way I can search for it?06:01
BlueEaglecommunico: I've had most luck with md by compiling md and raidX into the kernel. I didn't get it working with modules. Then again I might just suck. :)06:01
BlueEaglecommunico: That's odd.06:01
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BlueEaglels /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bz*06:01
communicoBlueEagle: i'm just grateful anyone is helping at all ;)06:01
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matthew_wBlueEagle; Help! I'm no longer in X.06:01
BlueEaglematthew_w: You might need to apt-get install nvidia-glx06:02
BlueEaglematthew_w: That module is kernel dependant.06:02
matthew_wOh06:02
BlueEagle:)06:02
matthew_wIs there a way for me to ... "minimize" this irssi so I can do that without closing it?06:02
BlueEaglematthew_w: ALT+F2 will show you the 2nd (of 6) termnal screens06:02
Mr-Falkorthe X and gtk should have been build into the kernel06:03
matthew_wBlueEagle; error - already installed...x-x06:03
Mr-Falkorthen X would have worked faster06:03
BlueEaglematthew_w: Also screen is a nice program. You can detatch programs run with screen <command> by hitting ctrl+a+d and re-connect with screen -r06:03
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BlueEaglematthew_w: man apt-get and see how you can force a re-install I guess.06:04
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gusto5general question: what do i do if i install more physical ram?06:04
gusto5in terms of swap...06:04
thoreauputicgusto5: nothing06:04
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gusto5oh. ok. thanks thoreauputic06:04
thoreauputicgusto5: how much ram, swap ?06:05
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matthew_wHave to do an apt-get remove then apt-get install06:05
matthew_wWhoa... One could live completely without x06:05
thoreauputicmatthew_w: indeed06:05
Mr-FalkorHow did I check my swap ?06:05
BlueEaglematthew_w: apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx I guess.06:05
gusto5729.5 for swap, thoreauputic and my new combined ram value will only be 512 mb06:05
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thoreauputicgusto5: that's more than enough06:06
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gusto5thoreauputic, ok. thanks again. have a great night.06:06
matthew_wIt's installed06:06
matthew_wtry starting x again?06:06
BlueEaglematthew_w: Yes, when I think about it you might also need to reinstall nvidia-kernel-common06:06
brownie17what the hell is x, btw?06:07
BlueEaglematthew_w: It might also be that you need nvidia-kernel-common and not nvidia-glx :)06:07
BlueEaglebrownie17: It is the graphical framework used by the windowmanager to draw windows.06:07
thoreauputicbrownie17: it's the graphical system that draws widgets/windows on the screen06:07
brownie17ok06:07
brownie17pretty hot today06:08
brownie17hahah06:08
BlueEaglebrownie17: It is a common abbrivation for x-server06:08
brownie17where i am anway06:08
brownie17ok06:08
brownie17gtg06:08
BlueEaglethoreauputic: I thought the window manager drew the widgets and windows...06:08
matthew_w"failed to load module "nvidia" module does not exist"  "no drivers available"06:08
thoreauputicbrownie17: you can actually run X apps without a window manager, but it's kind of impractical06:08
BlueEaglematthew_w: modprobe nvidia06:09
communicoBlueEagle: I found a bzImage file in /arch/x86_64/boot. could that be it?06:09
BlueEaglematthew_w: also add nvidia to /etc/modules to have it load automatically.06:09
matthew_wFATAL - module nvidia not found06:09
thoreauputicBlueEagle: nope - try  startx `which gedit` -- :106:09
BlueEaglecommunico: Are you on a 64-bit platform?06:09
thoreauputicfor instance06:09
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communicoBlueEagle: hmm, how do I find that out?06:09
BlueEaglecommunico: You do know which processor you have got don't you?06:10
bytefoodoes colony 4 come with OOo 2 ?06:10
matthew_wBlueEagle - fatal - module nvidia not found06:10
cafuegobytefoo: yes06:10
thoreauputicBlueEagle: the window manager draws window edges and .. er.. manages the windows06:10
thoreauputic:)06:10
ParisiHow come my Atheros Netgear 311t isnt supported under kubuntu? I was told teh atheros were well supported under *nix :(06:10
BlueEaglematthew_w: that's even after reinstalling nvidia-kernel-common?06:10
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matthew_wBlueEagle; I think.06:11
BlueEaglecommunico: cat /proc/cpuinfo06:11
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well I'll be... :/06:11
matthew_wHow would I check to see if those are installed?06:11
bytefoothanks cafuego06:12
BlueEaglematthew_w: they should be in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/ somwhere06:12
eva-02is RC1 any diff from colony 4?06:12
communicoBlueEagle: it says 'address sizes 40 bits physical 48 bits virtual'06:12
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naliotheva-02: yes it is, by a week i think06:12
BlueEaglematthew_w: mine is in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/06:12
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eva-02k ty06:13
BlueEaglecommunico: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep "model name"06:13
communicoBlueEagle: ah yes, 64 bit processor, AMD Athlon06:14
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Well it draws _a_ window, but if I am not mistaking there are no widgets there and not very much managing going on.06:14
matthew_wBlueEagle; there is no "drivers" folder in there06:14
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BlueEaglecommunico: Well then it's no wonder that it's in x86_64 and not in i386. :)06:14
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BlueEaglecommunico: Sorry for not picking that up sooner. :)06:14
BlueEaglematthew_w: Hmm..06:15
communicoBlueEagle: that's okay. I'll resume where I left off06:15
thoreauputicBlueEagle: right - if you startx with an app instead of a wm, you get an immovable rectangle but the app runs06:15
lakcajkhermans, did you try just downloading the .deb and seeing what deps it is looking for and if you can fullfill those with ubuntu packages?06:15
khermanslakcaj, no actually i dindt06:15
thoreauputicBlueEagle: so if you specify the geometry you van run a browser, say, on tty8, fullscreen06:15
thoreauputics/van/can06:15
khermanslakcaj, hrmm...good idea06:16
naliothkhermans: you can visit packages.ubunto.com to check depends, too06:16
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Yes, and as far as I know a widget is the kind of thing you've got in ie. the titlebar that lets you minimize and maximise it and the re-sizable window edges. I might have misunderstood what a widget is though. :)06:16
naliothkhermans: the other packages.ubuntu.com06:16
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h17m4nQuestion: I'm trying to install wine on chroot, but when I try to compile it, I get this error: #flood06:16
thoreauputicBlueEagle: my undertanding is that widgets wre the things in the windows, or the windows borders etc06:16
thoreauputic/s/wre/are06:17
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BlueEaglethoreauputic: I wonder if the dictionary has got a definition. :)06:17
h17m4nit talks about x86_64 when I'm actually running 32 bit chrootr06:17
BlueEagle"A small mechanical device or control; a gadget."06:17
thoreauputicBlueEagle: heh - some techncal dictionary or wikkipedia I guess ;)06:17
BlueEaglenot exactly helpful. :)06:17
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pundaihey do the win32 codecs come with mplayer?06:18
matthew_wIt still says "Failed to load the Nvidia Kernel module, and now I can't get X... grr..."06:18
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pundaiim trying to view a presentation and it says no sound06:18
h17m4nanyone?06:18
pundaiaudio codec format 0x7506:18
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ParisiMan... I buy a new wireless card based on the atheros chipset based on recommendations and the thing isnt even natively supported under ubuntu at all, crap.06:19
naliothpundai: pkg is called w32codecs06:19
nalioth!tell pundai about extras06:19
matthew_wpundai:  You'll have to add the marillat repository, though.06:19
matthew_wBlueEagle; Help, I'm stuck in terminal06:19
matthew_wlol06:19
ParisiSo now i am stuck with 2 wireless cards that dont work properly :/06:19
naliothParisi: hope you saved the receipt06:19
BlueEagle"In graphical user interfaces, a combination of a graphic symbol and some program code to perform a specific function. E.g. a scroll-bar or button." so it seems you are correct. :)06:19
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h17m4nthe error I get was posted on flood06:20
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thoreauputicBlueEagle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget <-- the computer def is there06:20
pundaimatthew_w, nalioth thanks06:20
robotgeekpundai: what are you trying to install from marillat?06:20
Parisinalioth needless to say i will be returning it, bah06:20
pundairobotgeek, w32codecs06:20
naliothParisi: prism54.org06:20
robotgeekokay06:20
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matthew_wBlueEagle: Any ideas now...?06:20
robotgeekParisi: also dont forget ralink cards (a few belkin have them ,and they come cheap)06:20
Parisinalioth i was told the atheros was my best bet, and the the driver (ath) wont even work with it.06:21
naliothrobotgeek: ralink?06:21
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well, I've got no experience with k7 kernels in general or ubuntus k-7 kernel in particular so I am sorry, but I do not know how to fix that. All I can do is suggest you re-boot your i386 (or even an i586 might work) kernel.06:21
BlueEaglenot sure about the 586 though.06:21
matthew_wk06:21
naliothBlueEagle: 686 on that type of athlon, or k706:21
ParisiI am too pissed to even think about it, looks like i will be stuck with windows again.06:22
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robotgeeknalioth: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page gpl'ed drivers06:22
BlueEaglenalioth: it's a k7 processor but nvidia kernel module seems to get lost somwhere...06:22
ParisiIs there such a thing as a wireless card which is 100% compatible with bsd/linux or what?06:23
BlueEaglenalioth: and it's matthew_w that's having the problem.06:23
satafterhhello all, is Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 stable??06:23
CarlFKParisi= orinoco06:23
CarlFKsatafterh - no.06:23
naliothBlueEagle: nv and nvidia either work w/o a complaint or it's like pullin the teeth of an enraged hippo gettin it goin06:23
robotgeekParisi: yeah orinoco, or even netgear cards based on prism chipset06:23
thoreauputicsatafterh: by definition, not quite :)06:23
ParisiCarlFK: What about the atheros?06:23
BlueEaglecarlfk: It's a preview release. not a stable release.06:23
satafterhthanks06:23
naliothParisi: prism54.org06:24
ParisiOk.06:24
BlueEaglecarlfk: I wouldn't put it on a production server, but feel free to try it out.06:24
ParisiI guess i'll just return the Netgear then.06:24
CarlFKBlueEagle - why you telling me? ;)06:24
BlueEaglecarlfk: However don't be suprised if it contains bugs. :)06:24
robotgeekParisi: the netgear doesn't work??06:24
BlueEaglecarlfk: Because I'm mis-reading nicks like my grandma. :)06:24
CarlFKheh06:24
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satafterhis there an easy way to upgrade kernel and fix nvidia driver as it hangs the system when I try06:24
bored2khow do i edit devilpie?06:24
mik3CarlFK : chicago > *06:24
Parisirobotgeek This is my second netgear card i have tried ! I have a acx111 based card and now this one based on the atheros 521306:25
robotgeekbored2k: u mean devilspie, right?06:25
CarlFKmik3 yup. you too?06:25
h17m4nQuestion: An AMD64 compiled wine would only run 64 bit Win apps?06:25
BlueEaglesatafterh: It's a preview and should be treated as such. I wouldn't put it on a production server but feel free to try it. Don't be suprised if you find bugs though.06:25
bored2krobotgeek, yeah06:25
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robotgeekParisi: and did u try to compile the drivers from source?06:25
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Parisirobotgeek The sad part is that the acx111 sorta runs with ndiswrapper06:25
h17m4nFrom Tamir: wine - Currently there is not way to build it on amd6406:26
robotgeekParisi: i tht most netgears used prism chipset06:26
bored2khow do i edit devilspie?06:26
satafterhblueeagle - thanks,   no server here lol just home pc, lol06:26
robotgeek!tell me about pastebin06:26
BlueEaglesatafterh: That depends on what you define as "easy". If I was to undertake an installation of a preview release I would have made a separate partition for it.06:26
h17m4nI guess I took the right path when compiling it under chroot.06:26
Parisirobotgeek Not sure about that :/06:26
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Parisirobotgeek I think theyre mostly atheros, broadcan and acx06:26
matthew_wSo, now that I'm back in X06:26
satafterhkernel upgare not for preview release for currant stable06:26
ParisiBroadcom*06:27
BlueEaglesatafterh: By looking at the number of 'lol'-s you manage to cram into one sentence it might be a good idea to stick to hoary until breezy is stable. :)06:27
matthew_wHow could I get the Nvidia modules into my K7 kernel?06:27
matthew_w!nvidia06:27
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:27
robotgeekbored2k: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2027 a copy of my .devilspie.xml06:27
satafterhmathew that my problem to i think06:28
robotgeekParisi: do atheros cards not work with the madwifi drivers?06:28
bored2krobotgeek, how do i use it ?06:28
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Parisirobotgeek aparently not my model! the atheros 521306:28
robotgeekbasically, you launch it by typing devilspie in a terminal or so06:28
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matthew_wBlueEagle; I just installed Linux-Kernel-Headers-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-k7 .. what are those? lol06:29
bored2ki get an error trying to run it06:29
matthew_wBlueEagle; when they're not k7 that is.06:29
satafterhmathew lol06:29
Parisirobotgeek Ubuntu wouldnt even get my card up, and that says alot!06:29
naliothrobotgeek: where does one buy ralink usb dongles?06:30
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well the -modules are probably modules. The headers are for when you compile stuff yourself (like programs)06:30
robotgeeknalioth: usb dongles, i am not sure. i use a pcmcia card.06:30
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BlueEaglematthew_w: ubuntu _might_ have rolled a nvidia module in there... :)06:30
aruI battled with ubuntu for 3 days trying to get my pcmcia (whatever) card working... then I realised I had wired the cat5e wrong06:30
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ParisiHeh06:30
Vaske_CarHow to set default zoom in Firefox?06:30
satafterhso much to learn lmao06:30
naliothrobotgeek: my ibook has no pcmcia slot06:31
BlueEaglematthew_w: try to ls /lib/modules/2.6.10-k7/kernel/drivers/video06:31
aruI just like to share that story when someone says Ubuntu is at fault :)06:31
robotgeeknalioth: okay. they are good cards, and the driver is getting better all the time06:31
BlueEaglematthew_w: it might be named something other than 2.6.10-k7 though.06:31
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Sonny_WertzikHello.06:32
cvthi06:32
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Sonny_WertzikI don't mean to inturrupt but.....can someone answer a quick question for me?06:32
satafterhwhy are there no sourses for kernel in package manager for default kernel06:32
thoreauputicdict loll:  1. To act lazily or indolently; to recline; to lean;... etc etc <-- what lol always makes me think of06:32
aruSonny_Wertzik: ask away06:32
matthew_wBlueEagle; is that it?  /lib/modules/2.6.10.5-k7/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko  ?06:32
Sonny_Wertzikthx aru06:32
Sonny_Wertzikis there a way to get full access to all my files and folders?06:33
naliothrobotgeek: yes, so i read. but i dont have pcmcia06:33
BlueEaglematthew_w: That seems like bingo to me. :)06:33
Sonny_Wertziki guess i dont have permissions for some06:33
robotgeeknalioth: trying to pull up which ones u can buy in a fry's06:33
NoUsesatafterh linux-source-2.6.1006:33
aruSonny_Wertzik: you can open a root terminal if that helps06:33
sn0nhey guys... whats the typical width of a console window ?06:33
thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: of course. with sudo/ gksudo06:33
sn0nlike 80 x 20 or something aint it ?06:33
bimberi80x2406:34
sn0nthnx much06:34
Sonny_Wertzikill try that now06:34
thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: be aware you can break your system easily if you don't understand something though06:34
snausageswhere can i go to see a list of all the applications available via apt-get ?06:34
NoUsesnausages synaptic06:34
NoUse!synaptic06:34
ubotuI guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:34
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BlueEaglesnausages: packages.ubuntu.com06:34
snausagesthank you both06:35
dducko!restricted06:35
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:35
BlueEaglesnausages: or in synaptic :)06:35
snausages=)06:35
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robotgeeknalioth: http://ralink.rapla.net/06:35
Sonny_Wertzikit asks for a switch..which one do i pick?06:35
hajikimy sound doesnt work, help06:35
cvtwhat do i need to handle all video formats?06:35
BlueEaglesonny_wertzik: tried the "off" switch? :p06:35
BlueEaglehehe06:35
thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: erm.. a switch?06:35
Sonny_Wertzikhehe06:35
Sonny_Wertzikmany a time06:35
satafterhplug the speakers in06:36
NoUse!tell cvt about restricted06:36
Sonny_Wertzikcommand line switch that is06:36
thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: whatever you do, don't push the big red button!!06:36
thoreauputic*grin*06:36
cvtty06:36
Sonny_Wertzikhahahaha06:36
sn0nhmmmm06:36
satafterhI am from canada, where is everyone eles from06:36
BlueEaglesonny_wertzik: to get full access to all files sudo -i06:36
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Sonny_Wertzikcool man thx06:36
matthew_wBlueEagle; that was it.06:37
cafuegosatafterh: yes06:37
BlueEaglesonny_wertzik: Be VERY CAREFUL when you're using the root shell because it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot.06:37
BlueEaglematthew_w: how is glxgears working for you now?06:37
matthew_wBlueEagle; glxgears is now churning out 750+ fps, an increase of over 7500%06:37
Sonny_Wertziki will thx for the help06:37
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well, there you go. :)06:37
matthew_wI sure pwned those gears.06:37
BlueEaglematthew_w: Feel free to put a few words in my guest book if you want to.06:37
BlueEaglematthew_w: Well anything is better than 10 fps ;D06:39
cafuegoexcept 506:39
BlueEaglecafuego: But ofcourse.06:39
BlueEagleAnything better than 10 fps is better than 10 fps.06:39
BlueEagle(damn pedantic crowd in here...) :p06:39
thoreauputicBlueEagle: hey, never start a sentence with parentheses!06:40
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bitkromhello06:41
cafuegothoreauputic: ( really?06:41
BlueEagleHi bitkrom! How are you today?06:42
matthew_wThanks BlueEagle XD06:42
thoreauputiccafuego: )06:42
cafuegothoreauputic: meh ] 06:42
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thoreauputiccafuego: :)06:42
BlueEagle:p06:42
cafuegoBlueEagle: illegal/yes please/in bed06:42
bitkromhow do i make a system within the system for programs with higher requirements above the ability of the distro06:42
BlueEaglematthew_w: no problem. Sorry I didn't pick up on k7-modules being needed though. I'm new to ubuntu. :)06:42
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BlueEaglebitkrom: Are you talking about emulating a different system here?06:43
satafterhI have to tell you all, I am new to liux about 2 months now, have tried differant distro, ubuntu and kubuntu are the best (wont so whick one i like more lol) great job to the people who give it to us,  it seams really stable, not to big and easior than most to get up and runing, although I am having an issue installing wine and it working but never the less great job, because of ubuntu I got rid of bill gates thanks06:43
BlueEaglebitkrom: or a chroot jail?06:43
naliothbitkrom may want a sandbox06:44
Thread-xanyone knows how to enable remote desktop from ssh (command line)??06:44
cvtare there any video formats that ubuntu handles?06:44
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naliothcvt: just the open format ones06:44
BlueEaglethread-x: Are you thinking about x11 forwarding?06:44
cafuegocvt: yeah, all, provided you have an x86.06:45
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cvti have p4 3 gHz 1gB ram, etc.06:45
bitkromcan you explain the sandbox?06:45
cvttotem movie player06:45
h17m4nPerforming 'make install' as root to install binaries, enter root password - Isn't it the password I normally use?06:45
BlueEagle!tell cvt about restricted06:45
h17m4nHow come it wont work06:45
cafuegoOh, I'm sorry to hear that :-)06:45
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concept10Just tested the breezy preview Live CD, it works great on my system.  Should I upgrade to breezy now???06:45
thoreauputich17m4n: sudo make install06:45
cafuego!restrictedformats06:46
uboturestrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'06:46
Thread-xBlueEagle - maybe.. my main problem is that the remote desktop doestn work until i start gnome. but i want it to work from ssh :S06:46
naliothconcept10: breezy is still badgerish, take note06:46
cafuegocvt: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for info.06:46
bitkromis it a chroot jail im after?06:46
h17m4nI'm trying to run this06:46
h17m4n./tools/wineinstall06:46
h17m4nit compiled already06:46
cafuegoh17m4n: sudo apt-get install wine06:46
BlueEaglethread-x: until you start gnome on which machine?06:46
concept10nalioth: badgerish? heh06:46
h17m4nI'm following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=1006:47
thoreauputicnalioth: aaaaargh! snake!!06:47
h17m4nto build a cvs wine on chroot06:47
cafuegoh17m4n: ubunbtuforms should not be used, as they give you bad info.06:47
bur[n] er!breezy06:47
ubotufrom memory, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:47
BlueEaglecafuego: As they _may_ give bad info.06:47
cafuegoh17m4n: Pretty much, installing unpackged software is  abad idea.06:47
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bitkromsay i need to run a program and the requirements are not met in the distro...what steps do i take?06:48
cafuegoBlueEagle: No, they _do_.06:48
Thread-x<BlueEagle> im in a windos machine working with ssh. .but i want a vnc.. to the ubuntu machine.. but the remote doesnt work until i log in gnome..06:48
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h17m4ncafuego: so doing a 'sudo apt-get wine' on chroot will get all of that done?06:48
BlueEaglethread-x: Well you should be able to remotely log in afaik, but I've never set it up myself :/06:49
cafuegoh17m4n: that will install wine, yes.06:49
cevizogludoes anyone have a url for getting wireless to work on a powerbook?06:49
robotgeekcevizoglu: do u have an aiport extreme card?06:49
BlueEaglethread-x: Let me do some checking.06:49
h17m4nhmmm06:49
thoreauputiccevizoglu: airport extreme is unsupported06:49
thoreauputicunfortunately06:49
bytefooon any linux i think06:49
bitkromdo i create a folder and turn it into root to have another system within?06:49
h17m4nbut ubotu points me out to that thread06:49
h17m4n!tell cafuego wine06:49
coleSLAWOne day, my Multi_Key stopped working in breezy, and I do not understand how to troubleshoot it.  Can someone help?06:50
bytefoobreezy have firefox 1.5 ?06:50
h17m4n!tell cafuego about wine06:50
bytefoothe new one?06:50
BlueEaglethread-x: Applications->System Tools->Configuration editor | desktop->gnome->remote access06:50
robotgeekcoleSLAW: multi_key?? what is that?06:50
thoreauputicbytefoo: not AFAIK06:50
Thread-x<BlueEagle> thanks in advance06:50
cevizogluthoreauputic: I'm not using airport extreme06:50
thoreauputiccevizoglu: lucky you :)06:50
BlueEaglethread-x: However I am not sure if that will work though.06:50
robotgeekcevizoglu: then which card are u using?06:50
coleSLAWrobotgeek: Outside of X.org, it is typically called the Compose key.06:51
Thread-x <BlueEagle> sorry mind if i pm you?06:51
robotgeekcoleSLAW: as in the one with the tilda key?06:51
robotgeekcoleSLAW: or ~ ` key?06:51
BlueEaglethread-x: No, since you ask I'd be delighted to recieve a msg from you. :)06:51
cevizoglurobotgeek: belkin F5D701006:51
cevizoglurobotgeek: it's supposed to work with ubuntu06:52
robotgeekcevizoglu: can u do a lspci and paste the output to pastebin? or do u know if it is a ralink card?06:52
aruanyone have a soundcard working with a front panel they can record from?06:53
coleSLAWrobotgeek: No.  As in the one that says "Compose" on it.  Or the one you have to define yourself.06:53
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robotgeekcevizoglu: in a terminal, do a "lspci -v" and paste the output06:53
coleSLAWrobotgeek: It lets you type characters not on your keyboard.  Like .06:53
coleSLAW.06:53
coleSLAWEven.06:53
cevizogluwhat is the url for pastebin again?06:54
aru!pastebin06:54
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:54
robotgeekcoleSLAW: if you want to remap keys, take a look at xkeycaps06:54
coleSLAWrobotgeek: I've already remapped keys.  The default startup is not sourcing the correct Compose file, though.06:55
snausagesi'm trying to install flash, but i get this: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla06:55
coleSLAWrobotgeek: It's supposed to pick up /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose06:55
thoreauputicsnausages: you need multiverse06:55
thoreauputic!tell snausages about repos06:55
cevizogluhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/202806:55
elmo_BlueEagle: Thanks again for your help. I have spent a long time trying to figure out the root terminal commands to do what you suggested, but to no avail. I have tried many variations (i.e. ext2 and 3, hd1 and hd0, different mount commands. Either I am completely inept at operating at terminal commands or the live cd system does not even see the hd.06:56
cafuego!checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall06:56
ubotu...but checkinstall is already something else...06:56
cafuegoubotu: no, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall06:56
ubotuokay, cafuego06:56
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BlueEagleelmo_: sudo fdisk -l06:56
NightBirdquestion, why would my ubuntu installation think something was wrong with getting the file needed for apt-get update?06:57
thoreauputiccafuego: what wa it before? (curious)06:57
BlueEagleelmo_: if it doesn't list your harddisk then it (the kernel) doesn't see it at all....yet06:57
robotgeekcevizoglu: sorry to inform you that on ppc, you cannot use this card. this has a broadcom chipset, and it's not usable on ubuntu ppc. though u can use this on a windows machine with ndiswrapper06:57
NightBirdthe deb lines are properly formed, so thats not the problem06:57
BlueEagleelmo_: if it does list your harddisk then we should be able to mount it.06:57
cevizogluwhich card do I need to work on ppc?06:57
cafuegothoreauputic: checkinstall is a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation06:57
elmo_BlueEagle: thanks. I will try tomarrow, when I can keep my eys open. You have been very helpful.06:57
cafuegothoreauputic: No info as to "why".06:58
thoreauputiccafuego: ah Ok06:58
robotgeekcevizoglu: i am infact using a belkin card, but i believe even the same version, but it used a different chipset06:58
robotgeekcevizoglu: prism54.org06:58
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bitkromis there a command to run to install ubuntu in a folder?06:59
cafuegobitkrom: yes, 'debootstrap'.06:59
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lirazHas anyone here managed to access linux files from windows?07:00
adoyretsamoner, yes07:00
bitkromcafuego: ok ill try07:00
adoyretsamonnot writing07:00
cafuegoliraz: ext2fsd (sourceforge) and read and write ext2 and ext3.07:00
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adoyretsamonliraz, the program I have used is called ... yes cafuego got it07:01
lirazadoyretsamon, yeah. I'm trying to use those but some folders just dont open, it says they're corrupted.07:01
lirazright07:01
da_bon_bonhi all07:01
robotgeekda_bon_bon: hi07:01
bitkromcafuego: the command isnt there07:01
da_bon_bonto those on breezy -- does usplash need a framebuffer console ?07:01
adoyretsamonliraz, those errors sometimes come up07:01
cevizogluhm.... too bad my pc doesn' t have a pcmcia slot07:01
da_bon_bonhi robotgeek :)07:01
thoreauputicliraz: windows thinks everything non-windows is corrupted *grin*07:01
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adoyretsamonlol07:02
robotgeekcevizoglu: u said a powerbook right?07:02
cevizoglurobotgeek: yes07:02
orospakrhi! how do I get the mail-transport-agent dependency met when I have an MTA installed that isn't in the ubuntu repository?07:02
robotgeekcevizoglu: i tht all powerbooks had pcimcia slots!07:02
robotgeekcevizoglu: do u have a small powerbook, like 12" ?07:02
cafuegobitkrom: Why don't you install it, then?07:03
cevizoglurobotgook: I never said I wished my powerbook had a pcmcia slot07:03
cevizogluoops, sorry07:03
bitkromcafuego: right...i found it thanks07:03
robotgeekcevizoglu: sorry, my bad.07:03
lirazadoyretsamon, do you know how to get rid off them? sometimes just moving or renaming the folders works, it's weird...07:03
cafuegoorospakr: Did you install qmail like a silly person?07:03
lirazbut not always07:03
cevizoglurobotgeek: I said I wished my pc, my amd chipset pc had a pcmcia slot07:03
HrdwrBoBcafuego: is there any other way?07:03
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Yes, but I can't mention it in public.07:04
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robotgeekcevizoglu: got it07:04
cafuegoit involves the C word and many other expletives.07:04
adoyretsamonliraz, nope07:04
cafuegoorospakr: You could give 'equivs' a try, but really you should have used 'checkinstall'.07:05
adoyretsamonliraz, best to make a fat32 partition and share between linux/windows07:05
cvtthx for your help.  sorry i don't understand the links you gave me.  i'm really trying here.07:05
cevizoglurobotgeek: I'm not quite grokking this prism54.org page - what's it for?07:05
cafuegoor, in case of it really being qmail, you shouldn't have ;-)07:05
da_bon_bonheeey... should i update from hoary to breezy or go download the preview iso ?07:05
cafuegoda_bon_bon: Wait a few weeks and then upgrade.07:06
da_bon_boncafuego: upgrade from hoary itself ?07:06
cevizogluoh, I need a belkin card with a prism chipset?07:06
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cafuegoda_bon_bon: yep, when breezy is reelased you can just upgrade. (Oct 13)07:06
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BlueEagleDamn connection.. :(07:07
robotgeekcevizoglu: any card listed working on the prsim54.org site will work07:07
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da_bon_bonok.. cafuego.. but wouldnt a "clean install" be recomended ?07:07
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cafuegoda_bon_bon: No, this isn't Fedora.07:07
ati-ysohard!ati07:07
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx07:07
cevizogluok, thx  :)07:08
da_bon_boncafuego: hehe07:08
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tod_konHello, I am having trouble in installing libpango07:08
tod_konI goto do libpango1.0-common and it requires libpango-1.0, then it does vice versa when I try the required packages07:09
Mr-Falkorhoohoo,.. I just need 1000 Dollars :D07:09
thoreauputictod_kon: are you using 3rd part repositories?07:10
Mr-FalkorThen I can upgrade my computer alot07:10
thoreauputic*3rd party07:10
Mr-FalkorI can get 1000$ easy :)07:10
bitkromcafuego: is debootstrap downloading how much of what it calls a whole system according to the man page?07:10
tod_konthoreauputic: yes07:10
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Mr-Falkorhehe07:10
thoreauputictod_kon: how did I guess?07:10
thoreauputic:|07:10
h17m4nis this a valid command: sudo /sbin/ldconfig export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/lib07:10
bitkromcafuego: the whole sid distro?07:11
Mr-FalkorUpgrade my computer alot or a Mac ?07:11
tod_konthoreauputic: mind if I query?07:11
thoreauputictod_kon: just paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin07:11
BlueEagleWell I'm calling it the night. You all have a wonderful time. :)07:11
tod_konpastebin?07:12
thoreauputic!paste07:12
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:12
da_bon_boncafuego: havent ever used fedora07:12
tod_konah07:12
da_bon_boncafuego: those "wait a few weeks" ? for breezy to officially release ?07:13
BlueEagleI'm going to get a fedora hat and put it on my computer just so that I can tell people that I've got fedora on it. :p07:13
tod_konDid it07:13
tod_konThoreauptic: it;s on #flood07:13
naliothda_bon_bon: mid october release date07:14
thoreauputictod_kon: umm.. I'm not currently in #flood07:14
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tod_konAh okay07:14
tod_konWell... where do you suggest I insert it?07:14
thoreauputictod_kon: paste it on the pastebin, as I said07:14
tod_kons/do/would07:14
Madpilotany Opera 8 users here? I need a hand, I've managed to screw up my Opera config pretty badly...07:14
naliothMadpilot: dont use opera, use FOSS instead07:15
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Madpilotnalioth: thanks, that's so helpful...07:15
BlueEaglemadpilot: mv .opera .opera.old and restart opera. That should give you the default settings. Then copy back your mail folder (and other useful stuff) from .opera.old07:16
tod_konthoreauputic: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/202907:16
naliothMadpilot: i havent used opera in years, sorry07:16
WhiteRabbitnalioth, opera is currently free with the release of 1007:16
thoreauputicMadpilot: is there a ~/.opera or equivalent you can move out of the way?07:16
naliothWhiteRabbit: is it free as in beer or as in speech?07:16
MadpilotBlueEagle: thanks - forgot about moving  /.opera07:16
WhiteRabbitthoreauputic, check in /opt07:16
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WhiteRabbitnalioth, as in beer07:17
BlueEaglemadpilot: not /.opera but ~/.opera :)07:17
thoreauputicWhiteRabbit: ?07:17
MadpilotBlueEagle: right, sorry. I do know which directory you're talking about!07:17
BlueEaglemadpilot: ~ = /home/<username>07:17
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BlueEaglemadpilot: I'm just pulling your leg. :)07:17
Madpilotback in a bit, hopefully with a non-borked Opera...07:18
WhiteRabbitthoreauputic, nm lol07:18
da_bon_bonhey .. i am confused .. what should i go for ? kubuntu or ubuntu preview ?07:18
naliothWhiteRabbit: i prefer my FOSS, thank you07:18
BlueEagleda_bon_bon: none of the above?07:18
da_bon_bonBlueEagle: i dont get you.07:18
WhiteRabbitnalioth, nothing wrong with being a zealot ;)07:18
thoreauputictod_kon: comment out the debian lines and update07:19
Vaske_Carhow to install Opera?07:19
BlueEagleda_bon_bon: Get ubuntu 5.04 (hoary hedgehog) as it is the most stable and best supported.07:19
thoreauputictod_kon: don't use debian repos with Ubuntu07:19
naliothWhiteRabbit: i like to tinker. open opera, go to jail07:19
da_bon_bonBlueEagle: i am on hoary .. are you too ?07:19
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WhiteRabbitnalioth, whos gonna goto jail07:19
WhiteRabbitnalioth, I just passed go & collected $200!07:20
BlueEagleda_bon_bon: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome but it's not officially supported and ubuntu preview is breezy which is a preview and not very well supported either.07:20
Vaske_CarI downloaded Opera, what is the command to start installation?07:20
naliothWhiteRabbit: opening up proprietary software to modify it is a jailable offense07:20
WhiteRabbitnalioth, wtf cares?07:20
da_bon_bonBlueEagle: i meant, kubuntu preview orubuntu preview :P07:20
thoreauputictod_kon: I'd be wary of backports as well, unless you are just grabbing one thing07:20
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da_bon_bonBlueEagle: anyway .. i think i will stick to ubuntu hoary07:20
BlueEagleda_bon_bon: Well if you don't know which then you shouldn't get either. :p07:20
da_bon_boni have customized it toooo much to lost it07:20
da_bon_bon*lose07:21
da_bon_bonhey.. right there07:21
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tod_konthoreauptic: that might be the problem :D07:21
tod_konI am trying to get Thunar and Pango installed...07:21
thoreauputictod_kon: debian is out of sync with hoary07:21
tod_konOh07:21
thoreauputictod_kon: so you get version mismatches07:21
tod_konAh07:21
da_bon_bonanyway .. cya all07:21
tod_konShould I alter them a bit then?07:22
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BlueEagleWell, your personal settings (for applications and the window manager) need not be touched as most formats are stable. However it shouldn't suprise anyone if a newer app uses a newer (and not backwardscompatible) setting format. :)07:22
WhiteRabbitnalioth, I bet you support the new laws on the printer ink carts if you open the seal you are bond by law to not refill them, & if you refill them your open for a lawsuit kinda guy ;)~07:22
bitkromchroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory07:22
tod_konI am defiantly a noob to Debian/Ubuntu...07:22
thoreauputictod_kon: if that doesn't fix it run  apt-get -f install ( without arguments - you might have to do that a few times)07:22
thoreauputictod_kon: that last after fixing your sources, of course07:22
naliothWhiteRabbit: those are asinine07:23
WhiteRabbitnalioth, Now you know how I feel about * rolls Eyes *07:23
thoreauputiceurydice just quit - wonder if Orpheus knows?07:23
tod_konthoreauptic: did you send something before apt-get -f?07:23
tod_konI can't find it..07:24
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bitkromcant run /bin/bash as root...how come?07:24
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: There are actually laws preventing you from tarhishing a piece of hardware you've bought with the ink of your choice?07:24
BlueEaglebitkrom: sudo -i07:24
naliothBlueEagle: yes, just this week. refilling your ink cartridge is against the law07:24
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, yes the new US laws state if you open a printer cart package that states you cant refill it you really cant refill it or you goto jail07:24
thoreauputictod_kon: no - just fix your sources, update and try again07:25
tod_konOkay07:25
BlueEagle...only in America...07:25
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, you know kinda like ripping a tag off a matress kinda deal07:25
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WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, before long planters will have a commercail with some guy refilling them07:25
thoreauputictod_kon: sudo apt-get -f install is only needed if you have a problem07:25
tod_konOh okay07:25
tod_konThanks07:25
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Don't tell me there's a law preventing you from ripping a tag off a matress...07:25
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, yes07:25
bitkromBlueEagle: didnt work07:25
HrdwrBoB\o/ america07:26
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: What if you sleep restlessly and pull off the sheets and rip it with your foot in your sleep?07:26
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, I've just personaly got feed up with all US laws & just don't follow them anymore lol07:26
tod_konthoreauputic: so in the URL, should I change it to ubuntu or something?07:26
bitkromBlueEagle: is this command right? chroot /sid-root /bin/bash07:26
thoreauputictod_kon: NO07:26
tod_konI am still not quite getting this =/...07:26
tod_konHaha07:26
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, It's still jailable How lame is that?07:26
tod_konSorry07:26
thoreauputictod_kon: just get rid of the debian lines07:26
tod_konOkay07:26
thoreauputictod_kon: or comment them out like the marillat ones07:27
BlueEaglebitkrom: ls /sid-root/bin/bash07:27
thoreauputictod_kon: BTW using Marillat is also risky as hell (don't)07:27
bitkromBlueEagle: not there07:27
BlueEaglebitkrom: Well then there's no wonder you cannot run it.07:27
bitkromBlueEagle: tells me the debootstrap failed to grab it all07:27
BlueEaglebitkrom: What were you trying to do again? :)07:27
tod_konthoreauputic: I kind of need those deb ones though in the first place =/07:28
thoreauputictod_kon: why?07:28
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tod_konThats where I want to grab the Thunar sources from07:28
tod_konthey aren't in the Hoary repositories...07:28
bitkromBlueEagle: making a debootstrap system in a folder07:28
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Well you better sow it back on when you wake up I guess. Why was that law put in place anyways?07:28
thoreauputictod_kon: sources are OK, binaries not07:28
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, for interstate sales07:28
bitkromBlueEagle: E: Couldn't download libsigc++-1.2-5c10207:28
tod_konAh07:28
BlueEaglebitkrom: Oh, I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I knew how to do that.07:28
tod_konthoreauputic: So... I should look for a sources in that URL?07:29
thoreauputictod_kon: comment out the second last line then07:29
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, The IRS reigns surpreme over all other US branchs currently ;)~07:29
thoreauputictod_kon: notice the last line says "src"07:29
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: ...and selling mattresses you own in another state should be illegal because..?07:29
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tod_konAh07:29
tod_konyeah07:29
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WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, taxes you must leave the tag on to show the proper taxes had been paid for said matress07:30
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BlueEagleHei bjoern-erik. Str til? </weird language>07:30
cvtcan i pm someone?  [I have a learning disability] 07:30
MadpilotOK, that's better... thanks all. Must learn to be more careful with Opera's font configs, least I render it unreadable again...07:30
thoreauputictod_kon: but of course you have to compile those or use apt-get build dep then compile07:30
thoreauputic* apt-get build-dep07:30
tod_konOooh07:30
cvti'm trying to play videos and i don't understand the link someone gave me.07:30
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, http://www.legal-forms-kit.com/legal-jokes/dumb-laws.html07:30
cvtbecause of my disability07:31
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BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Well, I would assume that a reciept for the mattress would suffice, but then again I'm not working for the IRS. :)07:31
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, look at the forth law for Arizona07:31
tod_konHrm... build is an invalid option07:31
thoreauputictod_kon: see my corection above07:32
thoreauputic*correction07:32
thoreauputic:)07:32
tod_konAh okay07:32
thoreauputictod_kon: and if you are building from deb sources I recommend you read the apt howto07:32
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: Could you have one in the house and one in the garage?07:32
BlueEaglewhiterabbit: ...and why on earth would someone have any reason to pass such a law?07:33
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install apt-howto ; then type apt-howto in a terminal and it opens in a browser07:33
tod_konOkie07:33
tod_konThanks07:33
tod_konI don't do sudo ;)07:33
tod_konI do sudo -s07:33
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, look at the 8th for California07:33
BlueEagle"Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death." o.O07:33
thoreauputictod_kon: don't do sudo -s - use sudo -i07:34
tod_konIt's retarded imo to keep logging in and out of root...07:34
tod_konAh... whats the difference?07:34
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WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, O no never pour salt on a railroad track no no no07:34
thoreauputictod_kon: sudo -i gives you a proper root shell07:34
WhiteRabbitlol07:34
tod_konOh07:34
tod_konHaha07:34
WhiteRabbitBlueEagle, it makes the track rust & can kill alota people07:34
thoreauputictod_kon: environment variables etc07:34
tod_konI was using Gentoo and OpenBSD before this..07:34
tod_konUsed to su07:34
robotgeekWhiteRabbit,BlueEagle : #ubuntu-offtopic07:35
tod_konI still use OBSD07:35
WhiteRabbitrobotgeek, sure thing funklefick07:35
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BlueEaglerobotgeek: sure.07:36
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penpen7anyone wanna waste their time helping me with this mplayer plug in?07:38
Webby`HELP! I get the following error when trying to run win4lin pro: mergepro-core: unable to find host directory /home/webby/winpro/Documents and Settings: No such file or directory07:38
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Webby`What do I do?07:38
Dr_Willistry making that directory?07:38
Webby`ok07:38
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Dr_Willis:P07:39
brownie17seveas: i have a 56 meg script in my browser, and i want to save it to my desktop, how do i save it there from the cache, rather than downloading it again. i have a slow connection07:39
Webby`OK, I created that directory and now I get this error: /usr/bin/winpro: line 140: 23376 Segmentation fault      "$EXEC" "$CORE" $COREFLAGS -m "$MRGPRO_WINDOWS_RAMSIZE" -hdb "$PAGEFPATH" -fda "$VARMERGE/images/BLANK.IMG" -fdb "$VARMERGE/images/MERGEPRO.IMG" "$GUESTPATH" $CDROMARGS $EXTRA_FLAGS $*07:39
thoreauputica 56 meg script? That's some script...07:39
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Dr_Willisthoreauputic,  yea - i was about to say that.07:39
thoreauputicWebby`: do NOT paste here07:39
Webby`sorry07:40
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brownie17madpilot: i have a 56 meg script in my browser, and i want to save it to my desktop, how do i save it there from the cache, rather than downloading it again. i have a slow connection07:40
thoreauputic!tell Webby` about paste07:40
brownie17!tell webby about pastebin07:40
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Dr_Willissounds like ya need to hit the win4lin homepage and install docs and other forums.07:40
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brownie17can anyone help me?07:40
jfclavette_Hello, I have installed gcc 3.3 (specifically need 3.3 for compatibility purposes) and it compiles fine, but it won't link, complaining about undefined references even for the standard library.07:41
delltonyis there a way to force a kill other than kill -9 i am in need of killing dpkg but it will not kill and with it runing i can't dist upgrade cause of beign locked07:41
thoreauputicbrownie17: no need to repeat - we saw it the first time :)07:41
brownie17i was repeating to to madpilot sho just got here07:41
brownie17sometimes he helps me07:41
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brownie17can you help me?07:42
thoreauputicdelltony: killing a dpkg process is not usually a Good Move07:42
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thoreauputicdelltony: what is dpkg doing?07:42
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Madpilotbrownie17: if it's open in a browser window, how about right click & save as?07:42
delltonywell trying to do a dist upgrade to breezy07:42
brownie17it tries to dwonload form the server again07:43
delltonybut it hung up07:43
nalioththoreauputic: i believe delltony is in the middle of a breezy upgrade and needs to kill dpkg to continue his journey07:43
towlie_im considering installing ubuntu, i downloaded the live cd iso. is there a way to install that to the hard drive to make a permanent install or do i need to get a different iso ?07:43
delltonythats correct07:43
thoreauputicnalioth: ah OK07:43
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naliothtowlie_: you need the install cd07:43
bimberibrownie17: browser? you mean firefox?07:43
brownie17delltony: pkill? killall?07:43
brownie17bimberi: yes07:43
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delltonyi tried kill all not pkill let me try that07:43
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bimberibrownie17: File -> Save Page As07:43
thoreauputicdelltony: with sudo or as root, of course07:44
brownie17bimberi: it tries to dowenload it form the source again, not form the cache07:44
thoreauputicoh - installation - sorry07:44
delltonynope not killing07:44
brownie17did you use sudo?07:44
delltonyand i'm doing it as sudo07:44
brownie17ok07:44
jfclavette_anyone .. ?07:44
brownie17um.. sorry, can't help07:44
Madpilotback later, all07:45
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bimberibrownie17: um, Select All, Copy, Paste elsewhere (57Mb might stress that tho :) )07:45
delltonydang it dang it dang it07:45
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bimberi*5607:45
brownie17it's allright, i think i worked it out07:46
bimberibrownie17: good thing, i was struggling :)07:46
brownie17bimberi: i had the cache size at 50 meg, the file was 56. :( just out07:46
delltonyanyne else have any idea on this07:46
fhl0eNeed help, systemsound OK, music XMMS/mpg123/etc doesnt work, no errormessages07:46
delltonyif i restart i'm screwed07:46
naliothdelltony: yes, you are. do you have any other puters around?07:46
brownie17delltony: isn't there a guide for breezy beta?07:46
thoreauputicfhl0e: options - prefs - choose esound output07:47
delltonyyeah i do07:47
naliothbrownie17: on some puters, breezy is still a badger07:47
delltonybut id rather not hose this one if i can help it07:47
naliothdelltony: d/l the daily breezy image and burn it07:47
Webby`I get the following error when tyring to startup win4lin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/203007:47
thoreauputicfhl0e: in xmms07:47
Webby`What do I do to fix it?07:47
brownie17nalioth: ya waaa? you TRYING to confuse me>? becasue i REALLY don't need help!!!07:47
delltonywell why will this damn thing not kill07:47
naliothdelltony: may have no other choice, and with the cd, you can "apt-cdrom" it and continue07:47
brownie17delltony: what does it say?07:47
fhl0ethoreauputic: tried that already..07:48
delltonydoesn't say anything07:48
delltonyjust goes back to the shell prompt07:48
naliothbrownie17: it just doesnt die.07:48
delltonyand i do a pgrep and the id is still there07:48
thoreauputicfhl0e: mpg123 might need an option in /etc/libao.conf <-- not sure if that's the one07:48
brownie17delltony: then it probably is killed07:48
brownie17nalioth: ok07:48
delltonytrust me its not07:48
delltonygo to flood07:48
brownie17delltony: sorry, can't help, doesnt look like anyone else in here can, try looking for an alternative method07:48
brownie17goodbye07:48
naliothdelltony: i had to do what i just advised. use a breezy daily to continue after a restart07:49
fhl0ethoreauputic: /etc/libao.conf says: default_driver=alsa07:49
tod_konI give up on this...07:49
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delltonyok07:49
delltonyso burn the image07:49
delltonyand then what put it in07:49
delltonyand do apt-get dist upgrade07:50
naliothdelltony: nope. you have to "sudo apt-cdrom add" with the cd in the machine first07:50
delltonyany cahnce you can email me a step by step procedure or would that be too much to ask07:50
naliothdelltony: then the dist-upgrade07:50
thoreauputicfhl0e: hmm - see if default_driver=oss does anything (shot in the dark)07:50
delltonywell restart the system07:50
delltonyand hope i get a shell07:50
delltonyand then do it? not sure where or how your getting to the prompt07:50
naliothdelltony: you'll get a shell, and not much more07:50
fhl0ethoreauputic: nope, no better07:51
thoreauputictod_kon: did you run apt-get -f install?07:51
naliothdelltony: you'll probably have no X but you should get a shell07:51
thoreauputicfhl0e: killall esd and try again?07:51
delltonyactually i think it installed all that07:51
delltonyhell here goes nothing07:51
delltonyfreaking upgrades grrrrrrrrrrr07:51
delltonyif not ill do like you said07:52
naliothwell i knew it "breezy is broken"07:52
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thoreauputicfhl0e: I assume you ran alsamixer and unmuted your channels?07:52
fhl0ethoreauputic:  hehehe.. hmm tried xmms after changing in libao.conf... mpg123 works now..07:52
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delltonyso its apt-cdrom add07:52
fhl0ethoreauputic: alsamixer: everything unmuted..07:52
thoreauputicfhl0e: ah07:52
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delltonythen and then apt-get dist upgrade?07:52
delltonyto resume07:52
thoreauputicfhl0e: so it works now?07:52
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naliothdelltony: correct, that should work07:53
thoreauputicfhl0e: you might need to play with the mpeg plugin in xmms as well07:53
Madpilotwarning to all Opera users: the package "gsfonts-x11" will seriously bork Opera's font settings...07:53
naliothdelltony: with lots of "apt-get -f install" and cursing along the way07:53
Webby`Why do I get this error when trying to start win4lin?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/203007:54
fhl0ethoreauputic: mpg123 yes, xmms no......  I've installed all codecs according to ubuntuguide.org/#codecs.. and all are active in xmms07:54
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onehourtonothingwhat do I need to do to make my laptop work on the tv07:55
onehourtonothinguse my tv as a clone or extension07:55
thoreauputicfhl0e:  dpkg -l libmikmod2  <-- any result? Is that package installed?07:56
thoreauputicfhl0e: and did you try killing esd?07:56
thoreauputicblech, some quit messages... :|07:58
Thread-xanyone knows how to start vino (remote access) from the terminal?07:59
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onehourtonothingso does anyone know how to enable s-video/second monitor from the laptop08:01
fhl0ethoreauputic: I acctually froze my ubuntu... needed to reboot08:01
thoreauputicfhl0e: oh - what caused that?08:01
thoreauputicfhl0e: 15:55 < thoreauputic> fhl0e:  dpkg -l libmikmod2  <-- any result? Is that package installed?08:02
thoreauputic15:56 < thoreauputic> fhl0e: and did you try killing esd?08:02
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fhl0ethoreauputic: beats me.. But I think I now know my prob.. I tried to run xmms with sudo. Then when I choose a file i froze... Did the same now... It works!!08:03
fhl0ethoreauputic: with ALSA08:03
thoreauputicfhl0e: why on earth run xmms with sudo??08:03
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wickedpuppydoes anyone know why my flash drive keeps changing from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb to /dev/sdc08:04
fhl0ethoreauputic: I think I have a permisson prob on music files..08:04
wickedpuppy?08:04
thoreauputicfhl0e: is your user in the audio group? type "id" to see08:04
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  depends on what other usb dricves ya got in.  and the order they are plugged in i think.08:04
wickedpuppyDr_Willis, i only been using one drive08:04
wickedpuppyjust one flash thumb drive08:04
onehourtonothinghow do I use a second monitor on my laptop?08:05
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  and when you remove/plug it back in it changes? going up one letter each time?08:05
wickedpuppyyes08:05
wickedpuppyknow why ???08:05
fhl0ethoreauputic: yepp... how do I see file permissons?08:05
Dr_Willisunmount it first. :P perhaps.08:05
wickedpuppyi did umount /media/usbdisk08:05
wickedpuppyas root08:06
wickedpuppyfhl0e, ls -l08:06
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thoreauputicfhl0e: ls -l /path/to/file08:06
onehourtonothinghow do I use a second monitor on my laptop?08:06
Dr_Willisthe auto-mounter stuff may be getting in the way.. try closeing all windows and progs accessing the thing..08:06
fhl0ethoreauputic: seems like there is no permissons.. just -------08:06
Dr_Willisi wonder if the4ers an easy way to totally disable that automounting stuff.08:06
thoreauputicfhl0e: umm08:06
LinuxHungryWhat kinds of problems are you having with breezy vrs Hoary.08:06
wickedpuppyfhl0e,  can't be ... it means nobody has access to it08:07
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thoreauputicfhl0e: must be something08:07
wickedpuppyexcept root ... perhaps08:07
wickedpuppyLinuxHungry, no problems here08:07
thoreauputicfhl0e: are these files in your home directory?08:07
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  are you running X and gnome?08:07
wickedpuppyyes08:07
HiddenWolfDr_Willis, check the system > preferences menu for removable media08:07
wickedpuppyubuntu08:08
fhl0ethoreauputic: home/musik08:08
fhl0e/home/johan/musik/08:08
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  i think the gnome -media detector/automounter is doing some of the stuff. check where HiddenWolf  just said and disable the gnome stuff08:08
wickedpuppyfhl0e, then surely you are the creator of the files ???08:08
wickedpuppysure Dr_Willis ... thanks HiddenWolf too :P08:08
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LinuxHungryjust downloaded breezy and seeding on torrent but won't be able to install until monday08:09
fhl0ethoreauputic: gftp from another win..08:09
HiddenWolfwickedpuppy, np08:09
Dr_Williswickedpuppy,  we had a heated argument in here one day about cdroms and the automounting stuff as well  :)08:09
HiddenWolfLinuxHungry, seeding is good!08:09
fhl0ethoreauputic: how to change permissons?08:09
wickedpuppyfhl0e, man chmod08:09
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thoreauputicfhl0e: erm - you are trying to stream music over ftp?08:09
AzMooaw man, no zend studio packages :(08:09
LinuxHungryI thought it would use lots of bandwidth but it's only using 25k08:10
MadpilotAzMoo: doesn't Zend studio cost money?08:10
fhl0ethoreauputic: no, i've downloaded to my home folder.08:10
AzMooMadpilot, not the client.08:10
AzMooI don't think :\08:10
AzMooI should check that.08:10
aftertafhelp08:11
aftertaflol :)08:11
tod_konBye!08:11
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thoreauputicfhl0e: chown -R johan:johan /home/johan/musik && chmod -R 644 /home/johan/musik08:11
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danlis there an easy way to install kde on ubuntu?08:12
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AzMooSon of a bitch, so it does. I wonder when they did that? I've still got an old one on my windows box that didn't cost a thing.08:12
aftertafmornin' all08:12
AzMoodanl, kubuntu08:12
bimberidanl: sure is - install the kubuntu-desktop package08:12
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danlok thanks bimberi08:12
naliothhowdy tritium08:12
tritiumhi nalioth08:13
danlerr... actually i think thats what i tried and it gave me some dependecy error... let me go check08:13
MadpilotAzMoo: I thought Zend made PHP studio apps (among other things) - what's their 'client' app?08:13
thoreauputicfhl0e: oh - if there subdirectories that might cause issues08:14
LinuxHungrywhy is the latest version of fluxbox not recomended for ubuntu?08:14
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: where did you see that?08:14
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thoreauputicLinuxHungry: the Hoary version had a bug...08:15
LinuxHungryon thefluxbox homepage08:15
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fhl0e thoreauputic: too late...08:15
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: it's the --disable-xmb issue08:15
thoreauputicfhl0e: OK - are there subdirs, and how many?08:15
fhl0e208:15
LinuxHungrywhat does that do?08:16
thoreauputicfhl0e: for each of the subdirs do chmod 755  (as your user - not as root)08:16
LinuxHungrydisable-xmb?08:16
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: there's a font problem that's solved with that configure option08:16
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thoreauputicLinuxHungry: hang on a sec08:17
LinuxHungryok08:17
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fhl0ethoreauputic: I have a xmms window that wont close.. how can close it?08:18
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jo_ewhat packages do I need to install to use alsa?08:19
Ohmerhi08:19
LinuxHungryhere's a link to the newest dbian version of flusbox http://logicvortex.net/debian/08:20
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43428&highlight=slow+fluxbox <-- I give a solution here ( works with 0.9.12 - read the whole thread )08:20
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: that thread is from the mailing list BTW08:20
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LinuxHungryi'm gonna bookmark it08:21
Ohmerwtf about all keyboard things on Breezy?  first, xorg didn't start, I replaced keyboard with kbd.  Also, my GNOME paramaters for keyboard doesn't take effect.   And now I cannot use "&eacute;" nor altgr key with my french canadian keyboard.08:21
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: I would avoid the debian version - compiling it is not difficult and solves the problem08:21
Ohmerthis is a bug ?08:21
aftertafjo_e:  it should mostly be installed already... what is your souncdard?08:21
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: some people have not had this issue BTW08:21
jo_eaftertaf, onboard08:22
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aftertafjo_e:  ok, but what chipset?08:22
thoreauputicfhl0e: killall xmms08:22
aftertafjo_e:  type "lspci" in terminal, see what it finds as chipset08:22
LinuxHungryto be honist i've never compiled anything before.08:22
jo_eaftertaf, Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)... does that sound right?08:22
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: read that thread - I give insructions08:23
LinuxHungryonly been using linux for a few months on and off08:23
LinuxHungryok08:23
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: there's always a first time ;)08:23
jo_eaftertaf, I have uses alsa before, with different distros08:23
jo_eused*08:23
aftertafjo_e:  ok on both counts ;)   SIS then a number..?08:23
LinuxHungry<grin> so far i've crashed all my distros before I got a chance08:24
thoreauputicLinuxHungry: BTW for ID purposes I'm Peter Garrett08:24
jo_eaftertaf, 0000:00:02.7?08:24
LinuxHungryThanks my name is Tony King08:25
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cvt-please please please show me how to get video capabilites please08:26
cvt-that link was too broad.08:26
cvt-:)08:26
cvt-:(08:26
fhl0ethoreauputic: killall didn't close xmms app, it locked up ALSA.. rebooted now it works like a charm..:)08:26
Madpilotcvt: which link were you given? the RestrictedFormats wiki one?08:26
cvt-yes08:26
cvt-i'm really trying.08:26
thoreauputicfhl0e: great :) But you really need to get rid of the reboot reflex ;)08:27
fhl0ethoreauputic: I even run xmms through menus this time... So it seems like I had permisson probs allalong..08:27
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cvt-anyone can pm me08:27
Madpilotcvt-: that link - plus the AddingRepositories one - should get you set up without any trouble. what's your specific issue?08:27
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fhl0ethoreauputic: hehe... used to M$ win.. problems=reboot.. What could I have tried after killall instead??08:27
cvt-i don't know how to install progs08:27
Madpilot!tell cvt- about synaptic08:28
thoreauputicfhl0e: ps aux | grep xmms ; kill <pid number of xmms>08:28
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Madpilotcvt-: the ubotu msg you just got has installing app information in it08:28
cvt-ok thx08:28
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thoreauputicfhl0e: possibly also sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart08:28
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fhl0ethoreauputic: Ok I'll write both those tips down.. Very much thank you for helping..08:29
thoreauputicfhl0e: sometimes  sudo pkill xmms would work too (killin as root in other words)08:29
thoreauputicpkill is easier08:29
wickedpuppyanyone ever got kernel panic , no init found error before ?08:30
fluffybunny_need help with Error message: ACPI error: see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201808:30
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danlhow do i stop unresolved dependecy errors in synaptic08:31
thoreauputicdanl: fix your repositories08:31
thoreauputic!repos08:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:31
thoreauputicdanl: ^^^08:31
danlthanks08:32
thoreauputicnp :)08:32
fluffybunny_need help with Error message after hard-shutdown: ACPI error: see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201808:32
thoreauputicbrb08:32
fhl0ethoreauputic: i've made many changes since i begun.. running through many forum threads and guides.. So I vill reinstall ubuntu now and have a nice default install..:)08:33
thoreauputicfhl0e: why are you reinstalling?08:33
fluffybunny_!ACPI08:33
ubotufluffybunny_: Are you on ritalin?08:33
thoreauputicfhl0e: if it works, why fix it?08:34
jo_e!ALSA08:34
ubotuI heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206308:34
fhl0ethoreauputic: I made changes to esound.config and some other config files and didn't make backups.. So now I have no start up sound.. One issue to one guide I tried..:(08:34
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fluffybunny_what is kubuntu?08:35
thoreauputicfhl0e: heheh - Rule Number 1 - if you don't understand what you are doing, don't do it ;-)08:35
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome08:35
nexus-where do i change the locale after an installation?08:36
fluffybunny_ah... that reminds me, can anyone recommend a more lightweight window/desktop manager than gnome?08:36
fhl0ethoreauputic: true.. but since i'm a M$-nerd who wants to convert I have to make misstakes to learn.. rigth?08:36
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thoreauputicfluffybunny_: you can install kde with the kubuntu-desktop package08:36
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: isn't kde more resource intensive than gnome?08:37
thoreauputicfhl0e: yes, true: but you learn more by fixing mistakes than by reinstalling08:37
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danlthanks it's installing now08:37
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: not as far as I can see here08:37
tritiumnexus-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales08:37
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thoreauputicfluffybunny_: how much RAM and CPU do you have?08:37
fluffybunny_192 RAM, CPU... uh... i think i'm running a 2.8GHz Celeron08:38
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: no problem with any desktop then really08:38
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: although 256 MB RAM would be better08:38
fhl0ethoreauputic: ofcourse... now I have go working.. maybe I'll try to fix the startup sound before reinstalling..08:38
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thoreauputicfhl0e: :) Happy hacking !08:39
fhl0ethoreauputic: thanks.. see ya later (maybe?)...08:39
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: I have 256 but some of it is taken up by my graphics card, and I'm running a laptop, so upgrading is not feasable08:39
thoreauputicfhl0e: hard to escape me on this channel !08:39
thoreauputic*grin*08:39
fhl0e:)08:39
aftertafjo_e:  you find out what chipset it is?08:40
bimberinot if optusnet can help it :)08:40
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: KDE will run fine if you want to try it08:40
dazvidbimberi: My optusnet hasn't failed me once :S08:40
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: is the choice of KDE vs gnome really just down to personal preference then?08:40
tritiumabsolutely08:40
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: yes08:40
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: thanks08:40
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thoreauputicfluffybunny_: try both and decide for yourself08:41
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: are there any screenshots anywhere?08:41
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thoreauputicfluffybunny_: of course - try kde-look.org08:41
bimberidazvid: their vic branch must be good :P08:41
spiralhi08:41
thoreauputicnot sure if that;'s the right URL08:41
dazvidlol, yeh its decent :)08:41
fluffybunny_apparently, I can turn down the RAM used by my graphics card in the BIOS - can anyone recommend what to set it to>? i don't play any games on this machine (except maybe frozen bubble_08:42
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thoreauputicbimberi: I have no trouble with optus - but recently telstra had cabling trouble in this area08:42
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, 12808:42
bimberithoreauputic: ah08:42
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thoreauputicbimberi: I was off the 'net for 4 days08:42
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, its not the ram usage btw08:42
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: it only goes up to 64 ? :D08:43
dazvidthoreauputic: Where are you at?08:43
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=7&var1=1808:43
thoreauputicbimberi: I wouldn't apologise to them - i would prefer to be with internode frankly08:43
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thoreauputicdazvid: Wollongong, Australia08:43
dazvidthoreauputic: My friend is on internode.. they aren't much better than optus imo :)08:43
bimberithoreauputic: yes, i've heard good things about internode too08:43
thoreauputicdazvid: oh? I hear nothing but good about internode08:44
dazvidMaybe their more expensive plans.. he is on the 1.5mb adsl08:44
fluffybunny_is anyone able to help with Error message after hard-shutdown: ACPI error: see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201808:44
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, is this a laptop?08:45
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: yes08:45
WhiteRabbityou would say that lol08:45
WhiteRabbitACPI is almost worthless08:45
CaiN_SAacpi is kewl08:45
WhiteRabbitonly for laptops08:46
CaiN_SAhow do you think laptop power etc08:46
CaiN_SAgets managed08:46
CaiN_SAye08:46
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thoreauputicbrb08:46
CaiN_SAthats what its for08:46
WhiteRabbitblah blah blah preech it08:46
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: well, the point is, ubuntu crashed, I had to hold down the power button to restart, and now I get this error whenever I log in.. I just want to fix it08:46
CaiN_SAapm = pc's08:46
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, looks like the daemon got axed08:46
CaiN_SAwhats the error fluffybunny_08:46
WhiteRabbitCaiN_SA, even though its needed its almost worthless call it a windows theory ;)~08:47
fluffybunny_CaiN_SA: screenshot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201808:47
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, check the system events for logs on the starting & exiting of the ACPI daemon08:47
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: linux n00b... more details? thanks08:47
Bill--Hi - I need help setting display resolution with my ati card. Xrand isn't available, xorg.conf listed resolutions look okay, fglrx-control(is this what i need?) wasn't added to the application menu and "fxlrx-control" doesn't seem to be a command.08:47
Bill--er fglrx*08:48
CaiN_SAfluffybunny_, sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start08:48
CaiN_SAand tell me what it does08:48
tritiumBill--, did you first try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?08:48
Bill--yes - it seems to work added fglrx as a loaded module.08:49
CaiN_SAwhy you versioning me ?08:49
fluffybunny_CaiN_SA:  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 08:49
fluffybunny_ * Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon...08:49
CaiN_SAhmmm08:49
CaiN_SAfluffybunny_,08:49
CaiN_SAlog out08:49
CaiN_SAand in again08:49
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CaiN_SAand check if the error happens again08:49
tritiumBill--, and can you choose resolutions that you want available?08:49
fluffybunny_ok... back soon (thanks)08:49
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CaiN_SAkk08:49
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Bill--no , nothing shown in the drop down box. got an error message "XRAND Extension not supported"08:50
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fluffybunny_CaiN_SA: yes, the error is still there08:51
fluffybunny_CaiN_SA: also a HAL! error08:51
CaiN_SAhmmm08:51
CaiN_SAeish08:51
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CaiN_SAfluffybunny_, sudo ls -lha /var/run/08:52
CaiN_SAand paste in that bin08:52
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, I already told you what to do08:52
fluffybunny_CaiN_SA: the HAL! error was already there (not new)08:52
CaiN_SAya08:52
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, but he is gonna lead you to what I said, But it'll take him 30mins at this rate08:52
CaiN_SAWhiteRabbit, what did you tell her to do?08:52
WhiteRabbitcheck the system events logs08:53
CaiN_SAya08:53
WhiteRabbitwhats the boot log say08:53
WhiteRabbitdaemon logs etc...08:53
CaiN_SAits weird tho wickedpuppy08:53
CaiN_SA* WhiteRabbit08:53
wickedpuppywhats weird ?08:53
CaiN_SAcos it said : [ ok ] 08:53
WhiteRabbitwickedpuppy, him lol08:53
wickedpuppylol08:53
CaiN_SAstupid script08:53
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: how do I check the logs?08:53
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CaiN_SAcd /var/log08:53
CaiN_SAless acpid08:53
CaiN_SAless hald08:53
CaiN_SAetc08:53
CaiN_SAthats how you checl08:53
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CaiN_SAWhiteRabbit, i cant type fast my pc is dead slow becoz im cloop compressing an image08:54
WhiteRabbitCaiN_SA, if you say so08:54
CaiN_SAso ya08:54
WhiteRabbitlol08:54
CaiN_SAit will take ages08:54
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, /usr/bin/system-logviewer08:54
CaiN_SAload average: 1.97, 1.77, 1.1908:54
CaiN_SAsee08:55
CaiN_SA1ghz p3 machine08:55
WhiteRabbitI don't care if you PC can't hold its own08:55
WhiteRabbitlol08:55
fluffybunny_CaiN_SA: sudo ls -lha /var/run/ ---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/203208:55
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit:  /usr/bin/system-logviewer ----> /usr/bin/system-logviewer: No such file or directory08:55
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CaiN_SAfluffybunny_, do what whiterabbit sais08:55
synd_so how do i edit the sessions manager to add a window manager?08:55
nexus-tritium, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales only configures what locales are available on my machine, it doesn't change the one in effect08:55
tritiumfluffybunny_, that doesn't exist08:55
synd_whois tritium08:55
synd_whoops08:56
synd_:>08:56
tritiumheh08:56
aftertafnexus-:  it doesn't ask you which is the new default locale?08:56
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, system tools >> System Logs08:56
nexus-hmm08:56
nexus-it did08:56
nexus-but it didn't change my current one08:56
nexus-its still showing en_AU although i set it to en_US08:56
thoreauputicsynd_: /usr/share/xsessions - use an existing .desktop file as template08:56
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok...08:56
synd_thoreauputic: gracias08:57
tritiumnexus-, cool, you don't have to pronounce your Rs anymore ;)08:57
thoreauputicno worries :)08:57
synd_so, how well does E16 work with Ubuntu?08:58
tritiumnexus-, you're using hoary?08:58
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: now what?08:58
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nexus-tritium, yes i am08:59
synd_im quite impressed with elive 0.3, but id rather have ubuntu running under that.08:59
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you found the log viewer?08:59
synd_running under E,rather.08:59
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: yes... i assume I should now open a log file?08:59
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, past the complete bootup log on pastebin * not here* danger danger will roberson09:00
WhiteRabbitlets see if acpi is starting properly09:00
WhiteRabbitthen we trace the steps out after it is or it's not09:00
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: what is the boot log called?09:00
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, this way next time you get a buggy daemon playing around you can trace it out09:01
WhiteRabbitboot log?09:01
WhiteRabbitlol09:01
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: cool, thanks, no boot log09:01
WhiteRabbitboot.log or something nother09:01
fluffybunny_i'm looking in /usr/bin/ right?09:01
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: /var/log09:01
WhiteRabbit/var/log in ubuntu Im guessing since the other place was wrong09:01
WhiteRabbithttp://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/docteam/images/systemlogviewer.png09:02
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: nothing called boot09:02
WhiteRabbitya I had noticed the different spot for it lol09:02
WhiteRabbitubuntu must have a fricken boot log somewhere09:02
WhiteRabbitlook for - syslog , messages , dmesg and, perhaps, any boot.log.09:03
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cvt-will someone show me how to install firefox 1.0.6?09:03
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok... while i look, what was the danger message about?09:03
cvt-I have it extracted but nothing09:03
cvt-i even ran it09:04
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Madpilotcvt: if you've run all of Ubuntu's updates, your FF really is 1.0.6 already...09:04
brownie17can somebody help me with something quickly, how do i save a copy of the X window config file?09:04
cvt-oh09:04
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, for humor!09:04
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fluffybunny_:)09:04
cvt-it still says firefox  1.0.2 so i can't add any extensions from firefox until i upgrade.09:05
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, we can always kill ACPI from booting then have it start only after you have logged in09:05
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: these are all my logs: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/203309:05
brownie17thoreauputic: you there?09:05
brownie17thoreauputic: help me with x window config backing up?09:06
thoreauputicbrownie17: open with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:06
aftertafbrownie17:  a shell command called cp09:06
thoreauputicthen save as /home/you/xorg.conf.bak09:06
aftertafmakes a copy09:06
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, Im gonna take a wild guess & say look at kern.log09:06
thoreauputicor something like that09:06
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, also lets look at acpid09:07
brownie17thoeauputic: you sure that's right? the file was empty09:07
thoreauputicthoreauputic: or you can just do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak09:07
brownie17aftertaf: yes, but where is the file and stuff?09:07
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, also pop open the syslog09:07
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: kern.log doesn't do anything, but kern.log.0 opens ==> its huge09:07
aftertafbrownie17:  ls shows directory content09:08
brownie17thoreauputic: haha you accidnet adressed that to yourself09:08
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, syslog.0 also09:08
aftertaftype ls /etc/X11/09:08
thoreauputicbrownie17: that's the right path methinks...09:08
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ya the kern log is gonna be a phat daddy09:08
thoreauputicbrownie17: yeah, slip of the fingers09:08
thoreauputic:)09:08
tritiumbed time09:08
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: acpi log can't be opened unless I am root09:08
brownie17thoreauputic: no probz, thanx09:08
Madpilotfluffybunny_: sudo09:09
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thoreauputicbrownie17: you *are* running Hoary, right?09:09
fluffybunny_Madpilot: in gui?09:09
jo_e!xv09:09
ubotujo_e: Bugger all, i dunno09:09
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, sudo gedit /var/log/acpi09:09
brownie17thoreauputic: yeah09:09
Madpilotfluffybunny_: if you're editing conf files or whatever, "sudo gedit <whatever>" works09:09
thoreauputicbrownie17: well that file can't be empty then09:10
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok, so what do you want first :)09:10
cvt-madpilot, ty09:10
brownie17no i just typed it wrong09:11
thoreauputicah09:11
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, acpid then the kern log09:11
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, then the syslog09:11
thoreauputicthe cp way is better really - no reason to pu that file in your /home/you dir09:12
thoreauputic8put09:12
thoreauputichaha09:12
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2034 <==== ACPID log09:12
cvt-anyone know how to make my head set work when i plug it up?09:13
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, next09:13
cvt-when i plug in my headset the sound still comes out of the speakers.09:13
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, no need to paste the other urls I will see them as you post them :)~09:14
WhiteRabbitcvt, mute the desktop speakers?09:14
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, that one you just pasted in the last min is the kern log right09:16
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, if so thats the boot log we was after09:16
WhiteRabbitlol09:16
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fluffybunny_ok... so no need for syslog?09:16
synd_hm09:16
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you have acpi disabled in the bios?09:17
No1VikingAre there alot of bugs in the beta version of Breezy?09:17
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: I haven't touched the Bios settings for months... unless something else was able to do it? (recent problem - last two days only)09:17
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WhiteRabbitNo1Viking, Regaurdless you know you wanna try it09:17
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, one momenty09:18
No1VikingWhiteRabbit: I really want to try it, yes. But are there alot of bugs reported?09:18
vern401what is breezy? I am new to linux09:18
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, Sep  9 08:20:07 localhost kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic"09:18
thoreauputic!breezy09:19
ubotubreezy is probably the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/09:19
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ok I think we found it09:19
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, see how wonderful logs can be! instead of trying things some guy guesses at rofl09:19
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cvt-WhiteRabbit, tyvm09:19
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, first off check you bios make sure power management is ON acpi etc... 2nd -->09:19
vern401oh ok Thank You09:20
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok, so what went wrong, how do I fix it, and most importantly, how do I not screw up again :)09:20
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, You can try using lapic=on in the kernel boot options if the power management is on09:20
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, that kern log is gold for problems like this09:20
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: is this because I switched off powernowd in the bootup sequence?09:21
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, let me read the rest of the boot processes to make sure nothing else is outa wack since we are here lol09:21
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, let me guess you did that like 2 days ago...09:22
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WhiteRabbitACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!09:22
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cvt-how do i get permission to write to my external hd?09:23
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WhiteRabbitACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0]  (IRQs 7 10) *0, disabled. some nasty little irq routing goin on there09:23
cvt-it says i dont have permission to write09:23
kairu0anyone gotten a Japanese IME to work in breezy?09:23
cvt-when i try to move a folder09:23
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, do you have a plug n play option in the bios if so disable that09:23
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ati onboard hu Yuk hehe09:24
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, your dual booting with windows?09:24
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: it was all I could afford at the time :)09:25
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: I hang my head in shame (yes, I dual boot with windows)09:25
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vern401so do I but I am new and I ise windows to play a game at work09:26
vern401use09:26
thoreauputicvern401: that's what they all say ... 8)09:27
vern401I work security09:27
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, Ok a few things to check out powernowd change that back for the moment lol check for pnp aware os if you have access to it via the bio disable it also check acpi power management settings in the bios if you have them, if not then You can try using lapic=on in the kernel boot options if the power management is on09:27
thoreauputicvern401: actually I still have a windows partition too - I just haven't used it since last year ;-)09:28
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found! I'm gonna let you do some google leg work on this error09:28
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: grin09:28
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vern401I still depend on it allot I know almost nothing about linux and compiling ETC.09:29
Prowl3rHowdy Everyone09:29
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, how popular is ubuntu in your area09:29
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you are very close to the birth area of ubuntu ya know ;)~09:30
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vern401I dont know how to install programs on here yet. Or how to get the software for my wireless installed09:30
WhiteRabbitmadwifi09:30
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: i know - one of the developers was giving us a lecture on how "easy" linux could be, and gave us some CDs09:30
thoreauputic!!tell vern401 about synaptic09:31
ubotuthoreauputic: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:31
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, god bless them fellows for the free stamped cds09:31
thoreauputichmm09:31
thoreauputicah09:31
Madpilotthoreauputic: two !s09:31
Madpilot;)09:31
thoreauputic!tell vern401 about synaptic09:31
sirlarkWhiteRabbit: amen09:31
thoreauputicMadpilot: yes, pedantic bot09:31
thoreauputic:)09:31
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thoreauputic!tell vern401 about repos09:32
sirlarkWhiteRabbit: sow what is powernowd09:32
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok, so I go into the Bios settings, check acpi is enabled, disable PnP, and then reboot and google for that other error. will swicthing off PnP make windblows unhappy?09:32
sirlarkWhiteRabbit: AMD powernow???09:32
thoreauputic!good bot09:32
ubotuthanks thoreauputic :)09:32
thoreauputic!botsnack09:33
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, pnp aware os is a useless option even for windows09:33
ubotu:)09:33
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vern401which version of winslop09:33
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, linux hates pnp even though linus had a rumor about the 2.6 line supporting it I never saw it happen09:33
jo_eis there a good reason why xine chews up cycles like crazy when playing a dvd? it seems to do OK from a cd, though I don't have anything else with similar resolutions to a dvd09:34
WhiteRabbitbesides it's a laptop it probally want have the pnp aware option09:34
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bmecoli-well, I've looked in the forums and came up dry09:34
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok... well, here i go then, messing around with the Bios - back later, hopefully all fixed...09:34
WhiteRabbitpnp aware os just allows the os to decide the irq routing why let the os do the bio's job hu hu!09:34
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: thanks so much for the help...09:34
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, remeber the other thing09:35
vern401for 98 and newer it wont hurt to turn it off09:35
WhiteRabbitusing lapic=on in the kernel boot options if the power management is on if all that stuff doesn't work09:35
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: the google thing? shoudl I do that first?09:35
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, couldn't hurt09:35
bmecoli-I have a "ca0106" sound card and I can't find anything on getting midi to work09:35
bmecoli-closest I found was emu10k09:35
WhiteRabbitbmecoli-, you need a codec09:36
WhiteRabbitlike mozplugger kinda09:36
thoreauputicbmecoli-: http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/0/c4b39482154feb03ca256f8100150ad9?OpenDocument09:36
fluffybunny_i've heard HP is officially supporting ubuntu on some of its laptop brands now...09:37
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, yes they are09:37
dazvidwow ^09:37
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dazvidThats a big step :)09:37
thoreauputicbmecoli-: also look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8736.html09:37
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vern401it's working good for me on my gateway09:38
WhiteRabbitbmecoli-, http://timidity.sourceforge.net/09:38
fluffybunny_is cool, cause I have an HP laptop... haven't yet figured out how to enable the sound buttons on the chassis, but will get there eventually09:38
cvt-i have the latest firefox on my desktop; do you know how to successfully install it?09:38
cvt-it keeps saying i have firefox1.0.209:38
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WhiteRabbitbmecoli-, if you need to play  Atari ST sound files to let me know!09:38
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thoreauputicbmecoli-: if you install timidity (recommended) install freepats as well09:38
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, the hotkey stuff is still up to us09:39
cvt-and mozilla won't let me because i don't have the latest version.09:39
WhiteRabbitcvt, you have to use about:config09:39
cvt-oh09:39
WhiteRabbit& change the firefox number to trick the instlal09:39
WhiteRabbitinstall09:39
fluffybunny_Burgundavia: us, as in, we should right our own stuff to get the buttons working properly? bummer09:39
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, by us, I mean Ubuntu09:39
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, if they don't work with Breezy preview, file a bug09:39
fluffybunny_Burgundavia: you're an ubuntu developer?09:40
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, documentor09:40
fluffybunny_Burgundavia: we love documentation :)09:40
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naliothfluffybunny_: Burgundavia is an ordained ubuntu documentarian09:40
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benplautheh09:40
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bmecoli-hmm09:40
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benplautand knighted, too?09:41
benplautor, gNighted...09:41
bmecoli-I really want hardware midi though09:41
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, Already did that09:41
bmecoli-or am I not going to get the with the ca0106 driver?09:41
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, even though it was fake it was fun!09:41
benplaut:P09:41
cvt-which line in about:config to I change, whiterabbit?09:41
benplautholy smokes... my burner is frikkin fast in breezy09:41
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bmecoli-I mean... the main reason I got the damn card is because I wanted the hardware midi capabilities09:42
benplauti just burned a preview ISO in about a third of the time a 650mb would take in hoary09:42
thoreauputiccvt-: use the search dialog at the top and type in vendor09:42
bmecoli-so that I WOULDN'T have to use midi ;/09:42
bmecoli-er... timidity09:42
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WhiteRabbitbenplaut, http://photos.innersanity.com/thumbnails.php?album=709:44
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, see the knight!09:44
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cvtWhiteRabbit, i found vendor09:45
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WhiteRabbitversion =?09:45
cvt1.0.209:45
thoreauputiccvt-: it's the vendorSub string09:45
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WhiteRabbitgeneral.useragent.vendorSub09:46
thoreauputicyup09:46
WhiteRabbitchange it to like 1.0.6-4.109:46
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thoreauputiccvt-: you really need to run an upgrade on that install09:46
thoreauputicWhiteRabbit: it's just 1.0.6 here09:47
cvt-k09:47
naliothi put breezy on my ibook g3 and boy it's in rough shape09:47
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naliothi dont advise new(er) ppc users to go to breezy for at least another week09:47
cvtWhiteRabbit, it still says 1.0.209:48
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UtopiateAnyone here using dr17?09:48
cvtok09:48
brownie17hey everyone, what does an RPM download mean in relation to Java for linux?09:48
holycowhttp://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=208  <--- hehehe09:48
cvtit's at least letting me in the extensions section now09:48
cvtty09:48
holycowbest email communique evar!09:48
holycowrofl :)09:48
WhiteRabbitthoreauputic, I was just gonna suggest a higher number Im currently using 1.0.6-4.1 ;)~09:48
thoreauputicbrownie17: it means you did the wrong thing09:49
WhiteRabbit1.0.5 would even work I belive hehe09:49
thoreauputic!tell brownie about java09:49
brownie17thoreauputic: i didn't get that one, but i should get the other one then?09:49
thoreauputicbrownie17: read ubotu's /msg09:49
brownie17thoreauputic: you wouldnt happen to know how to update my gnome version would you?09:49
thoreauputicbrownie17: wait for breezy :)09:50
WhiteRabbitevery body wants cairo!09:50
dazvidWill breezy have 2.12 ?09:50
WhiteRabbityes09:50
naliothbrownie17: are you after java?09:50
dazvidyay :D09:50
thoreauputicdazvid: yup09:50
brownie17thoreauputic: and it doesn't involve recompiling the kernel would it/09:50
benplautWhiteRabbit, ...funny :)09:50
thoreauputicbrownie17: no09:50
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, I seel condos at the beach!09:50
brownie17thoreauputic: so there is no other way to get gnome updated?09:50
brownie17nalioth: yes i am09:50
thoreauputicbrownie17: why are you in a hurry? Can't wait until October 13?09:51
naliothbrownie17: follow the wiki instructions09:51
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, that place was at medieval times http://www.medievaltimes.com/09:51
WhiteRabbitbenplaut, real live jousting & sword fights while you get your drink on & eat on09:51
brownie17thoreauputic: well smeg won't work without it. and i am definatly not a man known for my patience09:51
thoreauputicbrownie17: smeg works fine on hoary09:52
brownie17!rpm09:52
ubotubrownie17: I give up, what is it?09:52
thoreauputicbrownie17: I have it here09:52
brownie17thoeauputic: not mine09:52
thoreauputicbrownie17: did you use the script?09:52
thoreauputicto install?09:52
brownie17thoeauputic: it tells me i need the new one for manking new menus and making seperators09:52
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brownie17thoeauputic: yes, it wouldnt install through synaoptic09:52
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: sigh, there is, sadly, no acpi or PnP options in my bios09:53
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ok they are on by auto defaults then09:53
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, thats a good thing really for you09:53
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: so now what? (a good thing - I will take your word for it :)  )09:53
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, did you change that thingy back yet09:53
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: the powernowd setting>? yes09:54
dazvidWhat is the official release date for breezy? I cant see it on the ubuntu site :s09:54
fluffybunny_I shoudl probably have written down all the things that were on, before I played with sysvconfig... oops09:54
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, is acpi running by chance09:54
fluffybunny_how do I check that, again?09:54
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Madpilotdazvid: Oct 13th - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule09:55
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, services09:55
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: :amanda@athena:~ $ services09:55
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: bash: services: command not found09:55
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, points to the top left menus!09:56
WhiteRabbitunder system thingys!09:56
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dazvidMadpilot: funny thing is, I googled it aswell, and nothing came up :S09:57
naliothdazvid: oct 13, i believe09:57
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dazvidOh wait, there it is at the bottom of the search09:58
Burgundaviafluffybunny_, only in Breezy09:58
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bmecoli-um, could anyone answer my question? is there support for midi with the ca0106 sound driver?09:59
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bmecoli-will I have to wait for the next version of alsa?09:59
naliothbrownie17: breezy at this point may be a little more than you want to deal with (i just put it on one of my other ibooks)10:00
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html10:00
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, sudo apt-get install bum10:00
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fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: amanda@athena:~ $ ps -C acpid10:01
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit:  PID TTY          TIME CMD10:01
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ?        00:00:00 acpid10:01
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Seveasdennis@blackbird ~ $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:01
aftertafbmecoli-:  have u checked the alsa soundcard matrix?10:01
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Seveaswhat have I done!10:01
bmecoli-???10:01
aftertaflol Seveas10:01
WhiteRabbitSeveas, Your using a cut down straw10:01
bmecoli-aftertaf, could you link me?10:01
SeveasNeed to get 670MB of archives.10:01
WhiteRabbitwe know you are now ;)~10:01
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, install bum10:02
SeveasToo bad i have to stop backporting things to hoary now I install breezy ;)10:02
brownie17anyone know of a toaster plugin for rythmbox?10:03
naliothSeveas: what a coincidence, i just d-u'd my g3 ibook10:03
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: amanda@athena:~ $ sudo apt-get install bum10:03
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:03
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:03
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, why would you want a toaster plugin to pop up songs10:03
thoreauputicbrownie17: I like the two-slice model ;-)10:03
naliothSeveas: verdict: the ppc arch isnt ready for prime time10:03
Red_Bullethow to download mplayer10:03
Red_Bullet?10:03
Seveasfluffybunny_, please don't paste10:03
Seveasand close synaptic10:03
SeveasRed_Bullet, apt-get install mplayer10:03
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: close synaptic or another apt instance10:04
Seveasenable multiverse10:04
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, what all have you been doin to that poor lil system!10:04
brownie17whiterabbit: becasue i use the player in a different workspace, and i want to nkow what the song is. i have lots of songs10:04
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brownie17thoreauputic: :)10:04
Red_BulletSeveas,  i have synaptic with activated repos and can't find mplayer10:04
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, remote xmms!10:04
WhiteRabbitxmms remote rather10:04
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: couldn't find package bum (synaptics is closed)10:04
SeveasRed_Bullet, paste your sources.list on the pastebin10:04
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: i'm thinking I should wipe and reinstall :(10:04
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you must travel to the multiverse10:04
Seveasfluffybunny_, bum isn't a package yet in hoary10:04
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, this is not windows!10:05
DVSoftware!tell fluffybunny_ about repositories10:05
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: as in, no need to reinstall? just fix it?10:05
Red_Bulletwhich source list where is pastebin10:05
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, sudo dpkg -i bum_1.3.3-1_all.deb10:05
Seveas/etc/apt/sources.list  -- http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:05
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you can install it that way for hoary10:05
DVSoftwarebtw, what is bum :huh:10:06
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html10:06
WhiteRabbitboo tup manager10:06
brownie17whiterabbit: is that the name of the plugin?10:06
DVSoftwareBUM is currently in Debian unstable and Ubuntu breezy repositories. These users can just apt-get it.10:07
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, what your wanting is a remote feature10:07
DVSoftwarehmmm10:07
WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html10:07
Seveas12% [213 rsync 91224/207kB 44%]                                   202kB/s 48m22s <-- dist-upgrade still in process :)10:07
brownie17whiterabbit: im using rythmbox did i meniton?10:08
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: sudo dpkg -i bum_1.3.3-1_all.deb <--- didn't work either... can I just add the Breezy repository and use synaptic?10:08
Seveasfluffybunny_, nooooooooo10:08
brownie17whiterabbit: isnt xmms another player?10:08
WhiteRabbithoary users must download it then install via dpkg10:08
DVSoftwarefluffybunny_: no10:08
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, yes10:08
DVSoftwarefluffybunny_: download that deb file10:08
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Seveaswhat didn't work with dpkg?10:08
naliothSeveas: be glad your'e not doing a ppc10:08
WhiteRabbitI only use xmms & amarok atm10:08
fluffybunny_javol...10:08
Seveasnalioth, I'm always glad I don'y do PPC ;)10:08
brownie17whiterabbit: which is better xmms or vlc?10:08
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you must download the .deb file first sweety lol10:08
DVSoftwarebrownie17: vlc for videos, xmms for music10:08
DVSoftwarebut i prefer amarok for music10:09
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, it's not about better but it's more about personal taste10:09
brownie17seveas: i do a bit of pcp! :) helps with school sports, that count?10:09
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naliothSeveas: be nice now. i now have valuable breezy experience for the masses of ppc (ab)users10:09
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, we was wondering about that mad twitch you got there10:09
brownie17whiterabbbit: ok, i'll give it a shit10:09
brownie17shot*10:09
brownie17hahah10:09
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: arg! the ubuntu developers lied! windows is so much easier!10:09
aftertafGuys, is the Audigy LS soundcard the nightmare one in hoary??10:09
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WhiteRabbitaftertaf, no10:09
DVSoftwarefluffybunny_: easier???10:10
WhiteRabbitaftertaf, you just need to enable  the digital audio jack by pressing m in alsamixer10:10
fluffybunny_DVSoftware: windows is more of a no-brainer...10:10
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, it's making you think10:10
aftertafbmecoli-:  you get that??10:10
DVSoftwarefluffybunny_: and you have to pay somebody to reinstall it every few weeks10:10
DVSoftwarethat's easier?10:10
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, it takes a solid 2 weeks to begain to enjoy linux if your coming from windows10:10
DVSoftwarewindows is brainwasher10:10
WhiteRabbitto run linux you need passion to be free10:11
bmecoli-get what?? your message??10:11
fluffybunny_DVSoftware: i got pretty good at reinstalling it myself, which I did every 6 months or so :)10:11
bmecoli-yes... if you tried to send me a file, then no, I didn't10:11
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, I cloned my windows partition10:11
aftertafscroll up to WhiteRabbit's post ...10:11
WhiteRabbitreinstall windows in like 3mins that way everyday hehe10:11
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: in debian based distros ike ubuntu you *never* need to reinstall10:11
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WhiteRabbitI have a auto housekeeper to reload the clone image every morning before I wake up10:11
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: you just fix whatever is wrong? thats a relief10:12
WhiteRabbitso fresh n clean clean10:12
snausagescan't you screw up something and then have to reinstall?10:12
bmecoli-you mean timidity?10:12
DVSoftwarethoreauputic: wrong... i've managed to fsck it up10:12
DVSoftware:D10:12
bmecoli-nonono, I'm trying to aviod that10:12
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: also you can upgradee as Seveas is doing10:12
WhiteRabbityou can run a debian based PC & the os will out live the hardware10:12
WhiteRabbitI know did it many times already on a few boxes lol10:12
thoreauputicDVSoftware: I said "need" - but I know where you're coming from ;)10:12
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: I don't have the bandwidth to download an ISO... will have to wait for the post10:12
bmecoli-like I said, the only reason I bought the sound card is for the hardware midi support10:12
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, you live right there in South Africa10:13
DVSoftwarethoreauputic: from where o_O10:13
henkHi i'm looking for a good p2p program. it should at least have bittorent since i want to download the livecd torrent, but preferably it should be able to connect to other p2p networks too10:13
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: is still takes long...10:13
WhiteRabbityou can drive to ubuntu head quarters & get free cds all day long10:13
SeveasWhiteRabbit, ubuntu headquarters are at the isle of man....10:13
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: which city in Ubuntu HQ in?10:13
DVSoftwarehenk: mldonkey10:13
Seveaswhich is no where near SA10:13
WhiteRabbitSeveas, so ubuntu has no precense in SA10:13
fluffybunny_Seveas: thats a really REALLY long drive <grin>10:13
thoreauputicDVSoftware: heh - well I once did the dreaded rm -rf / as root... But nobody heard me say that, OK ?10:14
Seveasfluffybunny_, kinda :)10:14
thoreauputic*g*10:14
Seveasthoreauputic, rofl :)10:14
DVSoftwarehahhaha10:14
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DVSoftwarethoreauputic: i didn't fscked it that way10:14
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SeveasI did a similar thing: rm -rf lib while being in /var10:15
Utopiatewhere in the heck is my rc.conf!?10:15
Seveasthat also f*cks up things badly :)10:15
SeveasUtopiate, stop thinking red-hat10:15
Utopiateso what do I use in debian?10:15
DVSoftwarethoreauputic: something was really wrong, gdm segfaulted nvidia drivers worked like shit10:15
SeveasUtopiate, /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d10:16
brownie17whiterabbot: XMMS does not have a media library!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH10:16
DVSoftware.... and yes, i've installed nvidia drivers from nvidia.com :D10:16
thoreauputicDVSoftware: sometimes it's easier to admit defeat :)10:16
Red_BulletSeveas,  look in pastebin for red_bullet10:16
Red_Bulletplease10:16
SeveasRed_Bullet, ok10:16
Utopiateseveas: what would I use insted of rc.conf to set my "login manager"10:16
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, first few char of the nick then tab10:16
Red_Bulletant tell me what to add10:16
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, yes xmms can keep a media libary10:16
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: ok, so bum is downloaded and in my /usr/local/src directory10:16
SeveasUtopiate, dpkg-reconfigure [the login manager you want] 10:16
brownie17WhiteRabbit, how/10:16
brownie17WhiteRabbit, btw, thanx for tab tip, saves heaps of time10:17
DVSoftwareUtopiate:10:17
DVSoftwaresudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:17
SeveasRed_Bullet, woah that sources.list is bad :|10:17
DVSoftwareshould do the thing10:17
Sonderbladewhy does the nvidia graphics driver fail to load after i upgraded kernel from 2.6.10 to 2.6.11?10:17
Seveasyou don't even have main in there10:17
DVSoftwareahhh10:17
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, cd /usr/local/src    ls to ensure it is then   sudo dpkg -i bumfilehere.deb10:17
DVSoftwaredidn't noticed that Seveas told you that10:17
SeveasRed_Bullet: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:17
Red_BulletSeveas,  this is only links10:17
Utopiatechecking it out10:17
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: i downloaded bum the earlier (more stable?) version - is ok?10:18
SeveasSonderblade, 2.6.11 is NOT to be used!10:18
brownie17WhiteRabbit, how do you keep a media library? do i need a plugin? i cant find it. plus the text is too small10:18
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, whatever floats your boat10:18
SonderbladeSeveas: then why is there a deb for it?10:18
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: :)10:18
Seveasit was a test-build to see whether they could get it working10:18
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, if it's to loud it means you to old!10:18
Seveasas you see it's in universe and unsupported10:18
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, right click xmms10:18
brownie17WhiteRabbit, !?!?! i never mentioned too loud, i say text too msal10:18
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, see all the cool menus?>10:19
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, to small runs the same course as being to loud10:19
WhiteRabbitether way your getting old!10:19
DVSoftwarebrownie17: try amarok10:19
DVSoftwareit's great app10:19
Red_BulletSeveas,  this is Deutche10:19
brownie17DVSoftware, amarok another player?10:19
WhiteRabbitmuhhaha after we get him to switch we will play with his emotions & get him to try yet another app.....10:19
SeveasRed_Bullet, ?10:19
DVSoftwarebrownie17: yep10:19
Red_Bulleti can talk only to English10:19
Madpilotlater all. need sleep.10:19
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Red_BulletGerman Language10:20
Red_Bullet:(10:20
brownie17WhiteRabbit, i don't like xmms, but if you want to use it, that's fine. although it has some REALLY cool plugins, and alot10:20
SeveasRed_Bullet, what is german??10:20
Red_Bulletlanguage10:20
Red_Bulletof the site10:20
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, ok on to amarok10:20
Seveasit's not10:20
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: my bum looks good10:20
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, if you dont like that we can keep you hopping all nite10:20
dazvidDeutch is though :o10:20
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, I sure hope so10:20
brownie17DVSoftware, sorry amarok is only for KDE, i use gnome10:20
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: I like it... now what? *g*10:20
dazvidI know I missed an S in there somewhere10:20
Red_Bulletoo10:20
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, pm me a picture of it so I can make sure it's operating correctly10:20
Red_Bulletyes10:20
Seveaspaste.ubuntulinux.nl is english10:20
Red_Bulleterror is mine10:21
Red_Bullet:)10:21
brownie17WhiteRabbit, DVSoftware, got any others?10:21
Red_Bullet:)10:21
Red_Bulleterror is mine10:21
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, Ok acpi is it on or not?10:21
dazvidDeutsch* is what germans speak10:21
DVSoftwarebrownie17: i use it everyday10:21
WhiteRabbitdu hast dazvid10:21
dazvidLOL im listening to the album right now10:21
DVSoftwareo_O10:21
brownie17DVSoftware,  you use KDE? or gnome? is the gnome in synaptic?10:21
naliothSeveas: i didnt know you were a language professor10:21
WhiteRabbitdazvid, funny stuff hu ;)~10:21
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WhiteRabbitDVSoftware, at least we know your not cathlic10:21
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: is checked and the green button is, well, green10:21
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Seveasnalioth, I'm not, I only speek 4 languages (and a gazillion programming languages ;))10:22
Red_BulletSeveas,  what to add in sources.list10:22
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, guess what that means!10:22
DVSoftwarebrownie17: kde10:22
chavobrownie17, you can use KDE apps in gnome and vice versa10:22
SeveasRed_Bullet: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:22
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: its fixed? yay!!!10:22
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, your bum is in fact fixed10:22
brownie17chavo: seriously? you sure?10:22
dazvidSeveas: which languages?10:22
brownie17chavo: then why bother making them for KDE and for GNome10:22
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: yeah! thank you for teaching me about bums10:22
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, my pal account number is 555555555 that'll be 160$ us for 2 hours tech10:22
WhiteRabbitlol10:22
glynHow do I enable writing on my Windows drive in Ubuntu?  Note that my windows drive is unbootable right now so I can't really mess it up anymore10:22
chavobrownie17, it's a long story10:23
chavoI'm using xchat in KDE10:23
DVSoftwarebrownie17: amarok doesn't depend on kde afaik10:23
brownie17chavo, ok.10:23
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: the cheque is in the mail10:23
Seveasglyn, is it ntfs or fat?10:23
thoreauputicWhiteRabbit: you're undercharging :)10:23
glynntfs10:23
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: seriously, thanks!!10:23
DVSoftwarebrownie17: it depends only on qt10:23
DVSoftwarelemme see10:23
Seveasglyn, in that case: not possible10:23
chavono amarok is kde10:23
brownie17DVSoftware, whats qt and afaik?10:23
chavoit's in kdemultimedia10:23
WhiteRabbitthoreauputic, you never saw what I install for businesses I don't like!10:23
DVSoftwareafaik - as far as i know10:24
thoreauputicWhiteRabbit: rofl10:24
WhiteRabbitthoreauputic, a 3 day gentoo install at $80 dollars a hour10:24
glynwell, heh..I'm not sure if it's ntfs for sure, how do I check to make sure?10:24
DVSoftwareqt is widget library10:24
thoreauputicWhiteRabbit: nice work if you can get it :)10:24
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WhiteRabbit$5769.0010:24
thoreauputicheh10:24
brownie17WhiteRabbit, you are my idol :)10:24
WhiteRabbitI've done it 3 times this year along10:24
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WhiteRabbitthey must have gentoo so I sock it to em10:25
glynnm it is ntfs..10:25
brownie17WhiteRabbit,  what did they do to annoy you? :)10:25
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: in what country? I gotta move there (after I learn gentoo!)10:25
HrdwrBoBthey deserve it if they want gentoo10:25
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, they used windows!10:25
glynSo there's no way you can write to an NTFS disk from Ubuntu even with special progs?10:25
brownie17WhiteRabbit, hahahahahaha10:25
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, na joking it's those small little business politics10:25
DVSoftwareamarok does depend on kde libs10:25
DVSoftwarenot entire kde10:25
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jimmy_neutronhi10:25
DVSoftwareglyn: do not write on ntfs10:26
DVSoftwareit's not safe10:26
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glynas I said earlier, the drive is already down10:26
brownie17WhiteRabbit, yeh10:26
Red_Bulletseveas please look my source.list this is really previous isn't really look for red_bullet210:26
jimmy_neutronin "make xconfig" what's the difference between a dot and a tick?10:26
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WhiteRabbitif Im shaking your hand with a limp grip you know your gonna be paying for it10:26
henkDVSoftware, i've installed mldonkey and kmldonkey. I'm connected to the core but now what? I cannot find where to tell mkdonkey to accept en download this .torrent file i halve10:26
brownie17WhiteRabbit, DVSoftware  says its going to take another 20 mins to download amarok10:26
henks/halve/have10:27
DVSoftwarehenk: errrm... i can't help you, i didn't used mldonkey over a year10:27
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, sudo apt-get tcniso10:27
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WhiteRabbitmuhahahah10:27
brownie17WhiteRabbit,  what is tcniso?10:27
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, badass10:27
SeveasRed_Bullet, that one looks good10:28
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, don't even look for it just forget I said it lol10:28
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brownie17WhiteRabbit, it did nothing10:28
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, just forget about it trust me10:28
brownie17WhiteRabbit,  ok? but it didnt work anyway, said no such operating or something10:28
Red_BulletSeveas,  but can't find mplayer10:28
Red_Bullet:((10:28
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, just forget bout it10:28
WhiteRabbitlol10:28
thoreauputicbrownie17: he was kidding, and he got the syntax wrong anyway :)10:29
WhiteRabbitRed_Bullet, mplayer-gui10:29
Red_Bulletwhat to do10:29
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SeveasRed_Bullet, that's in *multiverse* and you did not enable that10:29
brownie17thoreauputic, ok10:29
Red_Bullethow to enable10:29
Seveasadd the word multiverse to all lines ending with universe10:29
Red_Bulletwhere to add multiverse to the end of link10:30
Red_Bulletto the end10:30
Seveasyes at the end of the line10:30
Red_Bullet?10:30
WhiteRabbitonly furians can handle the multiverse10:30
Red_Bulletyes 10x10:30
glynwhat's a simple free way to convert NTFS into FAT?10:30
Seveasglyn, formatting :)10:30
WhiteRabbitI to can kill with a teacup!10:30
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glynthat won't work because I don't have a windows XP setup disk and I want to keep my files10:31
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brownie17WhiteRabbit, a chinse fighting teacup? or just a normal?10:31
aftertafglyn:  do with it what you will------->        http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/10:32
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, you never saw riddick have you10:32
brownie17WhiteRabbit, nope. isn't there a sequal now?10:32
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WhiteRabbitbrownie17, well when he was in creamatoria he killed a man with a teacup10:33
brownie17WhiteRabbit, that's arnachy down to a fine art10:33
WhiteRabbitbrownie17, plus they talk about the underverse so much I feel the next one will be all about the multiverse10:34
naliothglyn: yes, but no data will be left over10:34
robotgeekbrownie17,WhiteRabbit : #ubuntu-offtopic10:34
WhiteRabbitrobotgeek, sure thing fucklefick10:34
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thoreauputicgentlemen, gentlemen .. no fighting please - think of the furniture!10:35
nalioththat is not very respectful10:35
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: bad news... bum didn't seem to fix it... i just rebooted and got the same error10:35
brownie17robotgeek: sire, yes sir!10:35
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wickedpuppywhere does the kernel save the config file after doing makeconfig ?10:36
WhiteRabbitbum is not a fix it's a service monitor kinda deal with acces to cust the services10:36
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: so something other than acpi must be screwy then? cause that is switched on (according to bum)10:36
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: could it be the HAL! error i also get?10:37
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WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, ug10:38
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, see how long the battery last!10:38
WhiteRabbitfluffybunny_, I must go take care of something before I goto bed ;)~10:38
fluffybunny_WhiteRabbit: thanks... enjoy bed... :)10:38
WhiteRabbitif only!10:38
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glynaftertaf>Can you help me install Captive please?10:40
kamstrupwickedpuppy: .config10:40
wickedpuppyah okie10:41
wickedpuppythanks10:41
naliothglyn: you realize you could destroy your NTFS partition that way, right?10:41
glynyes, I told you guys it's already pretty much destroyed anyways10:42
wickedpuppyin my .config i got ext2 support as yes .. but when i do lsmod .. there is no ext2 ... anyone know why ?10:42
naliothglyn: then why not convert the partition to ext3?10:42
glynthe reason I'm writing on it is because I'm trying to get it to work10:42
kamstrupwickedpuppy: because it's compiled in to the kernel. It's not a module10:42
naliothglyn: ah Dr. Frankenstein10:42
glynlol10:42
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glynI can't figure out how to install Captive though10:43
wickedpuppyah then when i boot my livecd , i get error saying Module ext2 is not found ???10:43
wickedpuppybtw ext3 is a module ... so are all fs .. no ?10:44
kamstrupwickedpuppy: In the kernel config "y" means "compile it into the kernel" and "m" means compile it as a module10:44
bmecoli-shitcock... I'm gettting tired10:44
wickedpuppyah ... thanks dude10:45
wickedpuppyso if i got the above error... what should i do ?10:45
Seveasbmecoli-, watch your language....10:45
wickedpuppycompile as module or into the kernel ?10:45
bmecoli->.>10:45
kamstrupwickedpuppy: In principle you could compile any fs into the kernel10:45
wickedpuppythen why my kernel is complaining about the missing module?10:46
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wickedpuppyi am pretty confused10:46
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glynhow do I search for a "configure" file through the terminal?10:46
minime-search?10:47
wickedpuppyfind <path> -name "configure" -print10:47
fhl0eanyone who knows about Wine, and more specific running NetOp 6 with Wine??10:48
Red_BulletSeveas,  to the end of line must be universe multiverse10:48
Red_Bullet???10:48
Seveasyes10:48
Red_Bulletin sources.list10:48
Red_Bulletok 10x10:48
kamstrupwickedpuppy: dunno why it complains... Are we talking live cd or an installation?10:48
Red_Bulletwhen the download for xfce10:48
Red_Bulletend i will edit10:48
Red_Bulletfile10:48
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Frafrahi all10:49
Frafraif i upgrade from hoary to breezy, x will works?10:49
aftertafFrafra:  wait for stable...10:49
wickedpuppykamstrup, livecd ... specifically live usb flashdisk10:49
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kamstrupwickedpuppy: oh...10:49
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thoreauputicFrafra: if you need to ask that, don't10:50
wickedpuppyfirst i keep getting errors it can't find init10:50
kamstrupwickedpuppy: but it does work, no?10:50
wickedpuppynow i got error saying Module ext2 is not found10:50
glyncan anyone help me with a tar file I extracted and how to install it?10:50
Frafrathoreauputic: why?10:50
idabhey anyone know a partion manager?10:50
wickedpuppygrub loads and initrd is loaded ... but something is wrong10:50
wickedpuppyidab, try qparted10:50
aftertafglyn:  not much i can help you with... i got it working once, then crashed my ntfs. WIndows no longer recognised it, but captive did, so i moved erything to another partition and formatted FAT10:50
idabthanks wickedpuppy10:50
thoreauputicFrafra: well, suppose X doesn't work - do you know how to fix it?10:51
wickedpuppynp10:51
wickedpuppyidab, if you are terminal fan ... try fdisk :P10:51
aftertaffor info, Zin can't do more than ~30 gig FAT32, linux can though10:51
idab:P10:51
Frafrathoreauputic: no10:51
aftertaflol thoreauputic ...10:51
thoreauputicFrafra: so don't upgrade to Breezy10:52
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wickedpuppylol10:52
Frafrathoreauputic: :D10:52
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thoreauputicFrafra: until it's stable10:52
wickedpuppythoreauputic, why not let him screw and learn ???10:52
bmecoli-eh... I think I might just forget it for now10:52
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: well, it's up to him...10:52
aftertafwickedpuppy is evil...10:52
osfameronheh, there's a good number of people talking on #ubuntu-unregged10:52
wickedpuppylol10:52
glynaftertaf>How did you get it working once?10:53
glynit says there's an install file for instructions, but there isn't..this is horrible10:53
idabhey wickedpuppy where can i get it/10:53
kamstrupwickedpuppy: in 99.999999% of all kernels ext2 is compiled in, so it quite strange that it expects an ext2 module10:53
wickedpuppyget what ?10:53
aftertafglyn:  do ./configure first10:53
glynit just tells me no such file or directory10:53
Seveaskamstrup, on ubutnu kernels all filesystems are modules10:53
wickedpuppyall ?10:54
idabwickedpuppy, qparted10:54
Seveaskamstrup, monilithic-everything-built-in-kernels are obsolete10:54
wickedpuppyidab, synaptic10:54
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idabok10:54
wickedpuppyso Seveas if i do lsmod and ext2 is not there then kernel doesn't support it ?10:54
glynit says :glyn@Haksmoke:~$ ./configure10:54
glynbash: ./configure: No such file or directory10:54
wickedpuppyglyn, is the file configure in your current directory ?10:55
Seveaswickedpuppy, it just means it isn't loaded yet10:55
wickedpuppy./ means run a file in current dir10:55
glynI don't know, I can't even find a file configure10:55
wickedpuppySeveas, then what about live cds ???10:55
wickedpuppyglyn, go in to the unzipped dir10:56
wickedpuppyit should be there10:56
glynIt's not10:56
glynonly 4 folders10:56
kamstrupSeveas: I know... But try looking at "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs"10:56
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Seveasthey don't need ext2 until you start mounting ext2 disks (which should modprobe it)10:56
Cashelhowdies10:56
wickedpuppythen its nowhere ... config will come with tar.gz file10:56
kamstrupSeveas: Do you see and ext2 module?10:56
Seveaskamstrup, live or install?10:56
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wickedpuppykamstrup, no ext2 only ext310:56
SeveasI'm talking about installed systems10:56
wickedpuppyi am going nut over that10:56
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glynwicked, there seems to be no configure file in the extracted directory10:57
CashelIs there going to be any nasty suprises for me if I use a kernel.org kernel instead of an ubuntu prefab? Want to try 2.6.13 or maybe a test kernel..10:57
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Seveaskamstrup, /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/fs/ext2/ext2.ko10:57
Seveasthere :)10:57
wickedpuppyglyn, impossible ....if it is not there... there isn't a config for your program10:57
SeveasCashel, very well possible10:57
kamstrupSeveas: grep "EXT2" /media/hoary/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config10:58
kamstrupCONFIG_EXT2_FS=y10:58
glynthat's retarded..lol10:58
cvtdo you know how to get rid of the error copying files from an external hd?10:58
cvtthe files are in perfect shape10:58
cvtthey're mp3's10:58
Seveaskamstrup, livecd?10:58
idabhey can anyone tll me a the command to install compilers10:58
wickedpuppyglyn, why ?10:58
mgedminapt says it cannot authenticate the apache2 hoary security update10:58
wickedpuppyidab, try apt-get install gcc10:58
mgedminhas the ubuntu archive key changed?10:58
kamstrupSeveas: ?10:58
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ grep -i ext2 /boot/config-2.6.10-5-68610:58
SeveasCONFIG_EXT2_FS=m10:58
CashelSeveas, what should a be ready for that'd be different then in another distro?? I've compiled a few times in the past on rpm based distros... from source not src-rpm...10:58
idabthanks10:58
mgedminapt-key list shows I have the one created 2004-09-12 (1024D/437D05B5)10:58
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Cashels/a/I/10:59
glynI don't know why it's not there10:59
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: umm - apt-get install build-essential actually10:59
SeveasCashel, try to stick to make-kpkg for creating kernel packages10:59
Seveasthat way you easily install/remove them10:59
kamstrupSeveas: K. Will work for a lcd10:59
thoreauputicidab: install build-essential10:59
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wickedpuppybilly@wickedpuppy:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/fs$ grep -i ext2 /boot/config-2.6.10-5-38610:59
wickedpuppyCONFIG_EXT2_FS=y10:59
SeveasCashel, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompilHowto10:59
wickedpuppyfunny11:00
Cashelahh thanks again11:00
thoreauputicidab: it's a more complete compiler package11:00
wickedpuppywhy the difference ? 386 and 686 ?11:00
idabthoreauputic, thanks :)11:00
Seveaswickedpuppy, the /boot/config-* files are the better source for information11:00
thoreauputicidab: no worries :)11:00
Seveasah nvm you were there11:00
wickedpuppylook at my boot-config ... it says its installed into my kernel11:00
wickedpuppyfunny11:00
Seveasyeah, funny indeed :)11:01
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sepmikeanyone have experience with ESD and mplayer or xmms?11:01
Seveassepmike: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound11:01
Seveasfor mplayer: in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, you set: ao=esd11:02
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sepmikei tried esound in xmms and it said check... error11:03
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aftertafSeveas:  i was wrong yesterday.. it's not NAT i need, it's a pure router (the server doesnt have one foot on the internet)11:03
sepmikei'll try mplayer conf11:03
glynahh my system is freezng what do I do?11:04
kamstrupSeveas: Try "grep 9660 /boot/config-2.6.10-5-686", I'd expect that you need CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y11:04
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CashelAhhh KernelByHandHowto, excellent :)11:05
Seveaskamstrup, =m11:05
sepmikemplayer.conf can't be found11:05
idabthoreauputic, can you tell a command to update tcl?11:05
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kamstrupSeveas: This beats me... But if it works, I'm happy ;-P11:05
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brownie17DVSoftware, WhiteRabbit help! i installed amarok and now rythmbox won't play music!!!11:05
thoreauputicidab: I don't even understand the question11:05
environhi! anybody got fglrx xorg drivers up and running?11:06
brownie17environ, are you talking about ATI?11:06
environyes11:06
thoreauputicidab: do mean the tcl language/ widget things?11:06
idabthoreauputic, :   Tcl cannot be found on this system.11:06
brownie17not me11:06
mgedminsepmike, create a file ~/.mplayer/config that contains 'ao = esd'11:06
environi need an older version of /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a ...11:06
environthe one which comes with hoary11:06
Seveaskamstrup, initrd/initramfs :)11:06
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brownie17thoreauputic, i installed amarok and now the sound isnt playing11:07
thoreauputicidab: ah - apt-cache serch tcl I guess (to find what you need)11:07
idaboik11:07
thoreauputicbrownie17: why are you telling me?11:07
Cashelenviron, dpkg --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx?11:07
mgedminsepmike, you might also want to tell mplayer to use the xv video driver that supports hardware video scaling -- to do so add 'vo = xv' to .mplayer/config11:07
thoreauputicidab: sorry apt-cache search11:07
thoreauputicof course11:07
wickedpuppyok i gotta ask a stupid question ... why my kernel is 386 and your kernels are 686 ??11:07
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brownie17thoreauputic, i was hoping you could help me. or is this not what this channel is for, boy?11:07
DVSoftwarebrownie17: i don't think that they conflicts11:07
thoreauputicbrownie17: :(11:08
brownie17DVSoftware,  well either did I11:08
DVSoftwarelemme try11:08
wickedpuppybrownie17, you got mp3 plsugin ?11:08
DVSoftwareto play musc in rhytmbox11:08
brownie17should i have to....(dare i say it?) ....reboot?11:08
thoreauputicbrownie17: I meant why me personally - but nm11:08
environCashel: i just installed that driver..11:08
brownie17wickedpuppy: it was all working, and yes mp3's did. im playing a file i was playing ten mins ago11:08
thoreauputicbrownie17: and don't call me boy, please11:08
Cashelenviron, excuse me, I meant dpkg -i --force-overwrite11:08
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brownie17thoreauputic, hahah, sorry11:09
Casheloh? Is dri seperate?11:09
brownie17thoreauputic, should i have to....(dare i say it?) ....reboot?11:09
environCashel, i used the apt-get version11:09
environi think it works, it just needs an older version of that libdri.a file11:09
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kamstrupSeveas: I've just had my share of problems in the past with not compiling ext2 in... But im mostly a "CONFIG_RAMFS=y"-kinda guy :D11:09
sepmikeI chaned the config but it's still looking for asla11:10
aftertafi've got eth0 and a 'virtual' eth 0:1 up and running... but now the PC says no route to host when i try to connect to the proxy via the LAN on eth0.11:10
Cashelenviron, tried that myself, had to go w/ the proprietary 8.14.13 tho...11:10
aftertafwhen i type route, i get both IP subnets and both have * for gateway. :/11:10
Cashelenviron, you getting the failed to load dri hw not recognized bit?11:10
sepmikein the available drivers section in gmplayer it doesnt even have the option of ESD\11:10
brownie17DVSoftware,  ARGH! amarok doesnt close when you click X11:10
environno i get wrong dri version11:10
Cashelahh11:10
brownie17DVSoftware, they were both running11:11
DVSoftwarebrownie17: i don't have that problems11:11
environ(EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 4.0.0, expected 4.1.0). Disabling DRI.11:11
DVSoftwaretry changing output plugin11:11
brownie17DVSoftware, i haven't customised amarok11:11
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Cashelenviron, that you mean you need a newer dri not older...11:11
environdo you have hoary? could you send me the file mayb?11:11
CashelI can, but I'm not sure it'll do you any good since I'm using fglrx .14.1311:12
mgedminsepmike, run 'mplayer -ao help' in a console -- it will list all available audio drivers11:12
environno thats because i've overwritten it with some file on the net11:12
mgedminif it doesn't mention esd, then you have a problem11:12
environpreviously i got 5.0.0 which is to new11:12
brownie17DVSoftware, and btw, amarok doesnt have a media library either ;911:12
brownie17;(*11:12
DVSoftwarebrownie17: it has media lib11:12
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brownie17DVSoftware, how? it isnt easily accessable11:12
sepmikemgedmin, ESD is not listed when I type what you wrote11:13
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thoreauputicbrownie17: you haven't looked very hard , have you?11:13
DVSoftwaretake a look at sidebar11:13
brownie17thoreauputic,  nope :)11:13
Cashelenviron, where is that at , save me looking>?  :)11:13
environ /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:13
Cashelnoo that's the log, I meant the file, heh11:13
environi think it doesnt matter, since its a lib which comes with xorg11:13
thoreauputicbrownie17: amarok can classify your media in anumber of differnet views, in fact11:13
mgedminsepmike, did you compile mplayer from source, or did you install a deb from somewhere?11:13
environ/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a ...11:14
Cashel? /usr/x11r6/lib/modules/fglrx_dri.so11:14
Cashelahh11:14
sepmikesource from the tut on the ubuntuforums.org site11:14
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environthank you :X11:14
brownie17thoreauputic, so far i still only like rythmbox11:14
thoreauputic*shrug*11:14
mgedminsepmike, then it means you didn't have the necessary headers/libraryes to compile in esd support11:15
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thoreauputicwhatever, I like cplay and ogg12311:15
DVSoftwarebrownie17: rhytmbox doesn't play music here11:15
mgedminsepmike, I use mplayer-586 deb which came from marillat's repository, iirc11:15
DVSoftwarebrownie17: and it seems not to support my aac files11:15
sepmikeahh11:15
Cashelenviron, for the record, this is a bad idea :P11:15
sepmikewell I wonder if there is away to uninstall this one I did from source?11:15
environi know, i tryed everything else before, noW im doing it the hard way ^^11:16
cvthow does my setup look?  http://tinypic.com/dlix3n.png11:16
environbrb11:16
CashelAnyone using a test kernel and happy with it?11:16
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DVSoftwarecvt: i like kde more11:17
henkI'm listening to some mp3 with amaroK, but i'm hearing a lot of 'artifacts' on the sound, The quality is bad.. the load on my box is 0,12 and my hd's are on DMA so the bitstream should be ok i guess. Does anyone know what i may do to get this better ?11:17
cvtyou have ubuntu on KDE?11:17
cvti thought all ubuntu was gnome11:17
DVSoftwareCashel: that kernel is not meant to be used11:17
Cashelwhy do you say that DVSoftware ?11:18
brownie17DVSoftware,  nah i think rhythmbox will do fine11:18
DVSoftwarecvt sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:18
cvtwhere?11:18
DVSoftwareCashel: because it's test kernel11:18
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DVSoftwarecvt: terminal11:18
CashelDVSoftware, yes I know that...11:18
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thoreauputiccvt: that's the command to install KDE11:18
DVSoftwarethat will install kde desktop11:18
thoreauputic:)11:18
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DVSoftwarehenk: try different output plugin11:19
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thoreauputicjgotangco: BeerDump? hah!11:19
cvtDVSoftware, what's the command to change it back?11:19
thoreauputic*grin*11:19
cvti'm going to try it11:20
DVSoftwarecvt: you can choose your desktop in gdm11:20
squidinkcalligraI've just installed windows and it's overwritten the boot block. I dunno how to use grub to fix this (More accustomed to lilo). Is there a simple command to do this?11:20
idabcan anyone tell a good ftp software?11:20
cvti like kde better myself11:20
jgotangcoheh11:20
thoreauputicidab: server or client?11:20
DVSoftwarehenk:11:20
idabclient11:20
Seveasjerome, take it easy on the alcohol dude :)11:20
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onkarshindesquidinkcalligra: If you have Ubuntu cd then boot using it in rescue mode and then install grub again.11:20
DVSoftware11:20:45 up 2 days, 15:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.67, 0.6011:20
idabthoreauputic, : client please11:20
DVSoftwaremy load is  higher11:20
DVSoftwareand my amarok plays without problem11:21
henkDVSoftware, hmm amarok has an "engine" option but it lists no engines at all11:21
DVSoftware(even aac file)11:21
thoreauputicidab: gftp is OK - nautilus file manager can do ftp too11:21
DVSoftwarehenk: install amarok-gstreamer package11:21
idabthanks a lot thoreauputic11:21
Cashellinux-tree = source ?11:21
squidinkcalligraonkarshinde: I'm in a shell, chrooted to my original root - do you know what the command is?11:21
Cashelit used to but seems its a seperate package....11:21
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henkDVSoftware, ah i see i'm now installing all amarok engines11:22
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onkarshindesquidinkcalligra: I suppose the command is grub-install. But make sure that the grub configuration file is having entry for Windows, else you won't be able to boot Windows. Also make sure other entries correspond to correct partitions.11:23
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thoreauputicsyntax error:  BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by *beer*)] 11:24
Red_Bulletcan I create desktop icons in xfce4 ???11:24
BeerDumpyeah11:24
BeerDumpsucky dsl11:24
GNU-GPL.11:24
thoreauputicBeerDump: :D11:24
n3trunnerjust wondering, is there a command to know what desktop environment/WM is currently running?11:24
squidinkcalligraonkarshinde: Thanks - that fixed it. (well, we'll see after a reboot).11:25
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thoreauputicn3trunner: you can't tell by looking??11:25
n3trunnerits not for me..11:25
n3trunnerthis is funny. but the other person i'm talking to isnt sure what DE he is using11:25
cvtdo you know how to get a hardware monitor for my desktop that tells me the temp., hd space left, and ram usage, uptime, etc?11:26
thoreauputicn3trunner: hmm - ps aux |grep <something>11:26
aftertafcvt:  superkaramba11:26
cvtk11:26
thoreauputicn3trunner: like ps aux | grep metacity (or kwin or whatever)11:26
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thoreauputicn3trunner: if it's gnome it would be gnome-session11:27
Gnonthgolhow to get the source of /sbin/getty?11:27
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henkDVSoftware, the gstreamer did nothing on my box, amarok didn't play when that engine was selected. However the xine engine seems to be working whithout problems.11:28
DVSoftwarei'm using gstreamer here11:28
DVSoftwareand it plays fine11:28
n3trunnerthoreauputic: got it, thanks alot!11:28
thoreauputicn3trunner: no problem  :)11:28
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gooThis question is probably asked a 1000 times: Will Gnome 2.12 make it into breezy ?11:30
thoreauputicgoo: yes11:30
goothoreauputic: woho!11:30
thoreauputicgoo: each ubuntu release is co-ordinated with  gnome releases11:31
cvtDo i have to reboot for the kde changes to take place?11:31
aftertafcvt:  no11:31
thoreauputiccvt: just log out of the session11:31
cvthmm11:31
cvtok11:31
aftertafnever ever reboot in linux11:31
cvtoh11:31
cvtyeah11:32
thoreauputiccvt: choose the new session in the sessions menu11:32
cvtthat's right. thx11:32
goothoreauputic: very nice indeed. Saves me a lot of integration which I had to have been doing manually using that Other Distro I was flirting with before Ubuntu.11:32
thoreauputicgoo: :)11:32
goo(She was a b*tch, so I left her)11:33
goo:)11:33
sepmikemgedmin, thanks got it working now11:33
henkaftertaf, there are things that can go wrong in linux that are only solved by rebooting. So 'never ever reboot' is overstating it i think11:33
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osfameronooo!  Totem opens .ram streams!11:36
GNU-GPLso does Realplayer11:36
GNU-GPL:P11:36
henkah ok, in that case you are absolutely right never ever reboot in linux ! (unless the 32-bit uptime counter has rotated just like mine did once and you are annoyed by the message it gives you, but hey you need a few years of uptime for that to happen)11:36
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osfameronGNU-GPL: yeah, well, I'm happy not to have to install Real 'cos it annoyed me on Win11:37
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Seveashi doggie11:38
GNU-GPLright.. well this is linux....11:38
GNU-GPL:P11:38
gorillahenk: what distro is that machien running?11:38
DVSoftwarehenk: w00t!11:38
gorillamachine rather11:39
onkarshindeosfameron: In my opinion Totem, Mplayer, Xine, VLC have evolved really well over time. They are the best Free players available.11:39
brownie17dvsoftware? really? am i mistaken in that aac is the ipod format11:39
Seveashenk, woah bad idea11:39
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DVSoftwarebrownie17: no it is not11:39
naliothSeveas: i wish i could find the bug that causes this box to freeze solid11:39
DVSoftwareaac=advanced audio codec11:39
Seveastracking kernel security updates is way more important than a long uptime...11:39
brownie17DVSoftware, oh ok, what is aac commonly used for?11:39
DVSoftwareand it is opensource afaik11:39
brownie17!afaik11:40
ubotubrownie17: I give up, what is it?11:40
DVSoftwareas far as i know11:40
brownie17DVSoftware, aahhhh, it all becomes clear11:40
onkarshindeDVSoftware: aac is a fork pf mpeg afaik11:40
osfamerononkarshinde: yeah, they're pretty good.  I wish they wouldn't just crash when you don't have the right codecs though (actually, can't get mplayer to do anything at all...)11:40
DVSoftwareonkarshinde: yeah it can be mpeg2 or mpeg411:40
henkit was a dual p500 on debian ( the uptime counter rotates twice as fast for dual cpu) but nervertheless it had an uptime of about 430 days before i *had* to reboot it because the latest exploitable bug in the kernel couldn't be fixed with a module... shame11:40
DVSoftwareand it's quality is outstanding at low bitrates11:40
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onkarshindeosfameron: I have used VLC quite a lot and I am quite satisfied.11:41
GNU-GPLogg rulez11:41
osfamerononkarshinde: yeah, I installed vlc on gf's iBook to get it to play Windows media - couldn't work out how to get QuickTime to do it :-)11:41
GNU-GPLin mplayer this is easy..11:42
henkSeveas,  why it that a bad idea?11:42
onkarshindeosfameron: I also recomended it to my bro for his iBook because QT won't play fullscreen11:42
Seveastracking kernel security updates is way more important than a long uptime... <-- but of course modules help...11:42
thoreauputiconkarshinde: the default QT is nagware as well11:42
gooHmm.. is Gnome 2.12 already in the sources that's about to be Breezy?11:42
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thoreauputicon OS-X11:42
GNU-GPLSeveas, that all depends on the if it applies to your setup11:43
elekishi, I need help, I try to install clanlib 7.011:43
gorillaSeveas, depends on what attack vectors are avvailble to attackers :-)11:43
onkarshindegoo: Didn't you read the announcement of Breezy preview?11:43
DVSoftwareSeveas: my longest uptime was 14 days11:43
DVSoftware:D11:43
elekisbut he say (synaptic ) no11:43
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gooonkarshinde: noooo... But i will!11:43
onkarshindegoo: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-September/000031.html11:43
DVSoftwareSeveas: fsckin power outages :D11:44
DVSoftwareneed to get ups11:44
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henkSeveas, well security was never compromised on the box until a remote exploit became unpatchable. There where some local exploits but the people on it where my partners11:44
GNU-GPLor a better power supplier11:44
GNU-GPL:P11:44
gooonkarshinde: yup, found it in the topic - and hey, Gnome 2.12 is in there :))11:44
gooonkarshinde: thanks11:44
DVSoftwareGNU-GPL: i have notebook now11:44
GNU-GPLok11:44
DVSoftwareso i  don't care about power outages11:44
DVSoftware:D11:44
GNU-GPL:P11:45
onkarshindegoo: Lots of other good things. Gnome2.12 itself has many improvements.11:45
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aftertaflike implementing KDE?11:45
gorillaDVSoftware, you obviously haven't worked in a enterprise, nor lived in a maginal power area.11:45
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Ngaftertaf: he said good ;)11:45
gooonkarshinde: Maybe you could point me to a sources.list for breezy so I don't need to muck about with CD's ?11:46
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DVSoftwareerrrrmmm gorilla didn't really understood you :S11:46
thoreauputic!update2breezy11:46
GNU-GPLGNOME suck11:46
ubotuthoreauputic: What?11:46
echylohi, can a hoary user please output his uname -a11:46
GNU-GPLit's old fasioned11:46
thoreauputichmm11:46
DVSoftwaregorilla: enterprise in serbia11:46
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DVSoftwareis it joke?11:46
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy11:46
ubotumethinks upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces11:46
thoreauputicaha11:46
GNU-GPL!gnome11:47
uboturumour has it, gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.11:47
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GNU-GPL!kde11:47
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/11:47
gorillaDVSoftware, I mean if you don't care about pwoer outages, you obviously haven't worked in a large organisation or in an area with bad power.11:47
onkarshindegoo: You only need to add lines for 'breezy' distro as there are already for 'hoary'11:47
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kethinovhas anyone had issues with lockups using nvidia-glx in breezy?11:47
DVSoftwaregorilla: actually i live in area with very bad power11:47
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gooonkarshinde: that's too simple. Are you trying to trick me? :) Thanks!11:47
thoreauputic for end-users. see11:47
GNU-GPLsee.. even ubotu says: powerfull11:47
GNU-GPL:P11:47
thoreauputicoops11:47
osfameronthoreauputic: oh, I looked up xinerama yesterday for managing 2 screens11:47
osfameronthoreauputic: but there's only libxinerama in repos, can't find an actual client tool11:48
[A] ndy80how can I sent Sound Juicer to make it encode in mp3 instead of ogg by default?11:48
thoreauputicgoo: welcome to the land of Debian distros :)11:48
cosmotrollhi11:48
gorillakethinov, go back to hoary... breezy has a broken X server.11:48
DVSoftwaregorilla: old news11:48
DVSoftware[ OS: ]  testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic | XOrg: X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-56 20050901064618 root@yellow.warthogs.hbd.com)  | KVirc: 3.2.0.99 | Desktop KDE11:48
GNU-GPLi mean most people find XP desktop attractive.. but ehm.. is it stable? speedy?11:48
DVSoftwarei run breezy11:48
kethinovgorilla, my x server works fine. the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't the oss one does though11:48
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GNU-GPLi run breezy too11:49
onkarshindegoo: I have myself fount debian package management, apt-get far simpler than RPM.11:49
thoreauputicosfameron: it was just a tip - I can't afford multiple monitors so i don't know anything about it :)11:49
GNU-GPL(with hoary kernel though)11:49
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onkarshindeDVSoftware: Any speed improvements over Hoary?11:49
idabhey thoreauputic tell me a good ssh server11:49
DVSoftwareonkarshinde: i don't notice11:49
thoreauputicidab: openssh-server11:49
DVSoftwarei'm using 64bit cpu11:49
brownie17DVSoftware, what big differences are there?11:49
osfameronthoreauputic: heh, me neither right now, but have flat screen at work :-)11:49
idabthanks11:50
onkarshinde[A] ndy80: the answer to your question is to install lame11:50
GNU-GPLbrownie17, newest shit11:50
GNU-GPL:)11:50
DVSoftwarebrownie17: new packages mostly11:50
brownie17okay11:50
[A] ndy80onkarshinde: I installed lame...11:50
gooonkarshinde: Yes, me too. I started using Debian in ~2000 after doing Red Hat for a couple of years. It was a world of differences.11:50
[A] ndy80onkarshinde: I don't know how to integrate it with sound juicer11:50
onkarshinde[A] ndy80: Then are you facing trouble configuring Sound-juicer?11:50
cosmotrollI've deleted the file /usr/bin/lpr (i know i should mv ;) ) to make a symbolic link to gtklp, however even exporting GTKLP_FORCEX=1 in my profile and sourcing it, lpr do not launch gtklp in the X mode. i then apt-get remove gtlkp and reinstall it, but the file /usr/bin/lpr is not present11:50
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kethinovfor some reason every time i start X with my driver set to nvidia's proprietary driver, my screen goes half white half black and locks up the machine. ctrl alt backspace wont even drop me back a terminal. forced to reboot.11:51
onkarshinde[A] ndy80: did you install lame by downloading it from its website? or did you use package from Ubuntu repository?11:51
[A] ndy80onkarshinde: I installed it from Synaptic11:51
naliothbrb11:52
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environi installed the official ati driver, everything seems to work, but when i start glxgears it just makes 2 fps ... what did i do wrong?11:52
thoreauputic!info gstreamer0.8-lame11:53
akaiholakethinov: And you can set X to use the correct driver?11:53
onkarshinde[A] ndy80: I am trying to find answer. But why do you want mp3 anyway?11:53
kethinovakaihola, yes11:53
thoreauputichmm - actually that package *does* exist...11:53
mjrkethinov, interesting, but that's really something you should take up with nvidia, 'cause the proprietary driver is largely unsupportable by anyone else11:54
GNU-GPL!gstreamer11:54
ubotuGNU-GPL: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:54
GNU-GPLright...11:54
GNU-GPLhehehe11:54
GNU-GPL:P11:54
kethinovmjr, other ubuntu users are not having my problem11:54
kethinovmjr, i'm inclined to believe i'm doing something wrong11:54
[A] ndy80onkarshinde: simple: my portable mp3 reader doesn't read ogg11:54
thoreauputicgoogle for gstreamer0.8-lame11:55
cosmotrollok i've done a ln -s /usr/bin/gtklp /usr/bin/lpr and it is workin'11:55
thoreauputicthere's a deb for it... I have it11:55
[A] ndy80I found the answer and in the same time a bug in sound juicer :)11:55
thoreauputicit allows sound-juicer to do mp311:55
akaiholakethinov: How do you configure X? Editing xorg.conf?11:55
environwhats the german ubuntu channel?11:55
[A] ndy80I had to add a profile... but even if you add a profile in the encoders, since you don't restart the program, the profile is not shown in the combobox11:56
thoreauputicenviron: #ubuntu-de11:56
kethinovakaihola, i ran "apt-get install nvidia-glx" then "nvidia-glx-config enable"11:56
environthx11:56
kethinovakaihola, both commands were successful11:56
mjrkethinov, then you didn't do anything wrong.11:57
robodexwow, I guess it is true... Linux users don't sleep ;)11:57
thoreauputic[A] ndy80: gst-register-0.8 is your friend :)11:57
[A] ndy80robodex: 11:57 AM here :)11:57
akaiholakethinov: Sorry, I'm not familiar with nvidia's driver. I hope you find a guru to help you.11:58
mjrkethinov, assuming that you have a stock ubuntu kernel with the linux-restricted-modules package (corresponding to kernel version), though I'm not sure if it'd even try to start without that module11:58
robodexheh. 5:54AM here :(11:58
thoreauputicrobodex: parse error - can't find "sleep"11:58
[A] ndy80thoreauputic: it's working now :) I only had to restart sound juicer11:58
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robodexalthough I have one monster toothache so I didn't sleep last night11:58
onkarshinde3:32 pm here. India.11:58
GNU-GPLallmost lunchtime here11:58
thoreauputic[A] ndy80: cool :)11:58
kethinovmjr, what is the linux-restricted-modules package?11:58
GNU-GPL(30 minutes remaining)11:58
nalioths_dogrobodex, some of us are nothing but silicon chips with a fiber backend11:58
robodex!ubuntu11:58
ubotusomebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards11:58
BeFalouI've a weird problem with VLC in Breezy, I've compiled it myself but I can't open any file from the GUI, output shows that the path has strage characters at the beginning, can anybody help me with this?11:58
GNU-GPLthanks!11:58
mjrkethinov, something that contains non-free driver modules, and should be installed by default11:58
GNU-GPL:)11:59
robodexthere's one11:59
robodex:p11:59
GNU-GPL!awards11:59
ubotusomebody said awards was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks11:59
kethinovmjr, i'll check to make sure that it is installed11:59
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robodexall I can say is Ubuntu is the only distro I've used for more than three hours11:59
onkarshindeBeFalou: Any particular reason for compiling yourself? I never had any problem with vlc11:59
GNU-GPLguess you haven't tried many then11:59
GNU-GPL;)11:59
robodexI'm at the point now where I haven't touched windows in about two weeks11:59
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robodexwell I tried xandros a long time ago, and somehow managed to make it into a debian install12:00
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BeFalouonkarshinde: I want wmv9 support12:00
robodexI had major issues with fedora core 3 (mainly with the updater)12:00
aftertafrobodex:  must be hot in your room then.. how do you renew the air?12:00
onkarshinderobodex: All I can say that Ubuntu is the only distro of which I will be using third consecutive release when Breezy comes out12:00
robodexheh same here12:00
robodexI still have my warty CDs somewhere :)12:01
GNU-GPLhehe12:01
robodexalthough I'm going to wait until breezy is complete before I dist-upgrade12:01
nalioths_dogrobodex, very good idea12:01
GNU-GPLboh.. i like adventures12:01
GNU-GPL:P12:01
GNU-GPL(so i run breezy colony 4)12:01
onkarshindeBaFalou: See if this helps you https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-d67b20adc8d30f9d239222912aeb42f2e456b36b It is not exactly related to vlc12:01
kethinovmjr, apt could not find a package called linux-restricted-modules12:01
robodexI made the mistake of dist-upgrading about a month before hoary was stable, and I had nothing but problems... And since breezy is a MAJOR gcc upgrade I think I'll pass on updating12:02
franzxHello! what options do i have to set for ntfs in /etc/fstab so that to linux copied data is not executable, but writeable? (ntfs is ro)12:02
kethinovmjr, also, another reason i'm not sure it's an nvidia issue is because i had the driver working correctly in other distros (such as fedora) before switching to ubuntu12:02
nalioths_dog!tell franzx about ntfs12:02
GNU-GPLwhat bot commands are there anyway12:02
onkarshindefranzx: umask=011112:03
GNU-GPLhow do i add a new thing?12:03
franzxi try12:03
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: /msg ubotu help12:03
onkarshindefranzx: Tell me if it works.12:03
GNU-GPLi did.. but that didn't give me shit12:03
GNU-GPL;)12:03
thoreauputic!ubotu12:03
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild12:03
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: try "add"12:04
robodexanyway guys I'd love to stay and chat but I have to be on a 6:55 bus to get to school, cya12:04
GNU-GPLloll12:04
robodex(commuting to university is FUN!)12:04
idabhey12:05
idabcan anyone tell how to get eggdrop from the files on the pc?12:05
GNU-GPLsome things just12:05
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franzxonkarshinde: i think i broke something my directories are now viewed as files my options are "user,auto,umask=0111,nls=utf8"12:07
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thoreauputicfranzx: that umsk stops access to directories - try 0011 if the 1 is really what you wanted12:10
DVSoftware!crawling12:10
ubotucrawling is, like, totally, short for CRAWLIIIING IN MY SKIN, THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAL!!!12:10
DVSoftwareLaughing out loud12:10
Nggenius12:10
onkarshindefranzx: This shouldn't happen. The user mask affects permissions only12:10
pawdrohello, can anyone write me repository to install jdk?12:10
Ngpollute the information bot, what a great plan12:10
thoreauputic!forget crawling12:11
ubotui didn't have anything called 'crawling', thoreauputic12:11
thoreauputicok12:11
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bimberithat was me in /query12:11
Madeyehey, guys is it safe to upgrade to breezy preview now?12:11
Ngno12:11
franzxonkarshinde: thanx but i think i reboot and try the script nalioths_dog mentioned to me12:11
Ngit will be safe when breezy is released12:11
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franzxcu12:12
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bimberi!tell pawdro about java12:13
gooMadeye: previews are never safe, just great fun12:13
mjrhmm, I could risk my laptop soonish...12:14
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GNU-GPL!gpl12:15
ubotuGNU-GPL: Do they come in packets of five?12:15
pawdroi c12:16
GNU-GPLi don't get ubotu.. i do as instructed.. but nothing works12:17
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kandoora_how do i uninstall ubuntu so that the drive can be recognized by window again12:18
GNU-GPLwhy?12:18
GNU-GPLwindows suck12:19
Madeyehmm thanks12:19
sn0nkandoora_, wat you tryin to do exactly ?12:19
Madeyeguys is there difference between upgrading to breezy or fresh installation?12:19
kandoora_well i got a 20 gig window and 20 gig ubuntu12:19
sn0nok.. and what are you trying to do?12:19
nalioths_dogMadeye, you should upgrade to keep your settings12:19
sn0njust get rid of ubuntu completely?12:19
kandoora_i wanna do something that i can't explain12:20
sn0nthen why are you attempting to ask ?12:20
kandoora_so how do i uninstall ubuntu12:20
GNU-GPLhehe12:20
sn0nis there a !ban noob button?12:20
sn0ncuz its needed12:20
sn0n;-)12:20
deFryskMadeye, fresh install gives the complete package set of breezy upgrade does not12:20
chavosn0n, be careful what you wish for12:20
GNU-GPLdeFrysk, horse shit12:20
GNU-GPL:P12:20
nalioths_dogMadeye, decisions, decisions12:21
deFryskno not12:21
sn0nLoL chavo12:21
GNU-GPLyes12:21
kandoora_r u beeing funny or r u here to help others12:21
Madeyeheh12:21
deFryskGNU-GPL, like serpentine is not added with upgrade12:21
deFryskdut u get it with fresh install12:21
sn0nim here cuz i needed to idle somewhere.. may as well be in the channel of the distro im using12:21
GNU-GPLdeFrysk, ehmm apt-get?12:21
Madeyewell hmm, do you think I'll be missing something cool if i don't do fresh install ?12:21
sn0nas for you.. maybe try #windows12:21
nalioths_dogmadeye i upgraded one of my undersused ibooks to breezy earlier and have new things in it12:21
thoreauputicdeFrysk: *cough* dist-upgrade12:21
bimberikandoora_: you don't need to uninstall ubuntu, you just need to format it from windows12:21
sn0nor better explain EXACTLY what your trying to do12:21
deFryskthoreauputic, try it with dist-upgrade12:22
kandoora_bimber: but i can't see the drive from windows12:22
nalioths_dogthoreauputic, clear your throat again?12:22
deFryskand see is you get all the packages of breezy12:22
thoreauputicdeFrysk: I'm sorry to say you are misinformed12:22
sn0ncuz 'uninstall ubuntu' isnt sayin much.. you could use windows disk management to just blast the partition and format ntfs, and ubuntu would be 'uninstalled'12:22
deFryskthoreauputic, am i now ?12:22
GNU-GPLyes you are12:22
GNU-GPL;)12:22
sn0nkandoora_, of course not.. just delete the partiton12:23
sn0nand create a new one12:23
onkarshindekandoora_: which windows?12:23
deFryskdont thinks so , but hey ;)12:23
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onkarshindekandoora_: Win 2K?12:23
GNU-GPLwin xp?12:23
GNU-GPLwin 3.12 wfw12:23
sn0nonkarshinde, dont really matter what version of windows.. no windows can read ext2, ext3, reiser.. unless you use a prog12:23
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kandoora_thanks guys12:24
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Madeyeok where I can find breezy repos so I can upgrade?12:24
sn0nthere is a program called Explorefs3 or something like that..12:24
kandoora_thanks for helping out a noob12:24
onkarshindesn0n: At least win 2k or winxp have a disk management application from where he can format that partition.12:24
sn0nhttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm12:24
GNU-GPLMadeye, change all hoary entries into breezy12:24
sn0nonkarshinde, didnt you see me say that like 5 minutes ago12:24
deFryskMadeye, just switch hoary to breezy12:24
chavoexplore2fs can read ext2 partitions12:24
deFryskin sources.list12:24
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Madeyeokay12:24
sn0nchavo, ext2 and ext3 support12:25
chavothere's also some filesystem drivers12:25
sn0nsays the website.. read before you speak12:25
deFryskMadeye, make sure to comment anything backport out12:25
chavobbut one didn't work and one gives me BSOD12:25
thoreauputicsn0n: please adjust your attitude a bit12:25
bimberiseconded12:25
sn0nthoreauputic, eh.. i'll pass.. ;-)12:25
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GNU-GPL!kick sn0n attitude boy!12:26
ubotuGNU-GPL: Do they come in packets of five?12:26
sn0nif i 'adjust anything.. its my attendance of this channel.. ;-)    but thnx for caring12:26
onkarshindesn0n: chavo: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm You can use this to mount linux partition as drive12:26
GNU-GPLhehe12:26
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chavohe'll get what's coming to him12:26
thoreauputicsn0n: feel free12:26
sn0nhehehe12:26
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brownie17nalioth: why do you use nalioth and nalioths_dog? or is your dog just a very smart little cookie?12:26
sn0nlol.. nalioth again.. :p12:26
naliothsn0n, this is not the first tie12:26
onkarshindekandoora_: Are you still there?12:27
naliothtime for this12:27
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pawdrocan I install deb for debian sun-j2se5.0-jdk-binary 1.5.0.04+debian-1.unofficial.sarge.1 (i386) and would it don't harm system?12:27
Seveaspawdro, no12:27
Seveasbetter grab one from hoary-extras seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:27
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brownie17chanserv 079685812:28
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GNU-GPLDVSoftware, i thought you would never leave! *kidding*12:28
GNU-GPL:P12:28
DVSoftwarei have to go home12:28
DVSoftwareto serbia12:29
DVSoftware;)12:29
GNU-GPLright.. ok ;)12:29
DVSoftwarecya everybody12:29
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GNU-GPLbye bye.. till next time12:29
GNU-GPLtake care12:29
DVSoftwarei will ;)12:30
peterretiefDVSoftware: have a good time.12:30
DVSoftwarepeterretief: tnx12:30
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peterretiefDVSoftware: np12:30
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GNU-GPLfarewell is allways hard12:32
GNU-GPL:S12:32
thoreauputicright :)12:32
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GNU-GPL:P12:32
bimberiubotu: gpl is http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html12:33
ubotubimberi: okay12:33
bimberithere you go12:33
onkarshindeAnd now I will try12:33
onkarshinde!gpl12:33
ubotugpl is probably http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html12:33
tommi^Hi. I installed msttcorefonts package to get verdana font so that some office files would display correctly and now they do. Now I noticed that, for an example, firefox looks ugly is harder to read than before. Obviously the package changed my fonts to worse. How could I have that verdana font and still have good looking fonts? Thanks12:33
tarvidany hints on getting webmin to work with apache212:33
tarvidlooks like the default module is looking for apache (1)12:34
GNU-GPL!forget gpl12:34
ubotui forgot gpl, GNU-GPL12:34
GNU-GPLubotu: GPL is the General Public License is the most common license form used when distributing Linux software. For more information on the GPL license, visit: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:35
ubotuGNU-GPL: okay12:35
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onkarshinde!gpl12:35
ubotuit has been said that gpl is the General Public License is the most common license form used when distributing Linux software. For more information on the GPL license, visit: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:35
Madeyeso it's just three simple steps, edit source.list comment backports, replace hoary with breezy, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and you are done?12:36
onkarshindeGNU-GPL: You are great12:36
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thoreauputicubotu no gpl is <reply> the General Public License is the most common license form used12:36
ubotuokay, thoreauputic12:36
thoreauputic               when distributing Linux software. For more information on the GPL license, visit:12:36
thoreauputic               http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:36
thoreauputichmm12:36
thoreauputic!gpl12:36
ubotuthe General Public License is the most common license form used12:36
thoreauputicah rats, sorry12:36
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bimberigawd, what a mess!12:36
Frafraciao a tutti12:36
bimberi:)12:36
Frafraopz12:36
onkarshindeMadeye: That should do.12:36
GNU-GPL!forget gpl12:36
Frafrahi all (excuse me)12:36
ubotuGNU-GPL: i forgot gpl12:36
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onkarshindeFrafra: Hi12:37
Frafrai'm on breezy for amd6412:37
Frafrai've a problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AQxL5J34.html12:37
pawdroSaveas: but there isn't jdk12:37
GNU-GPLubotu: GPL is The General Public License (GPL), the most common license form used when distributing Linux software. For more information on the GPL license, visit: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:37
ubotuGNU-GPL: okay12:37
pawdroon your site12:37
GNU-GPL!gpl12:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, gpl is The General Public License (GPL), the most common license form used when distributing Linux software. For more information on the GPL license, visit: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:37
idabroot@fast:/home/seatouch # mysql -u root -p12:37
idabEnter password:12:37
idabERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)12:37
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idabcan anyone tell me how to fix this12:37
idab?12:37
Seveasidab, did you just install mysql?12:38
tarvididab, try without a password12:38
Seveasif so: the default account on there is root without password12:38
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Red_Bulletplease tell me program for icons for xfce12:38
idaboiks12:38
idabSeveas, how to change the pass?12:38
gorillaidab, google for it... basically you reload mysqld without reading the grant table. you can then login onto mysql with password.12:38
idabfor mysql?12:38
idabnow i can login12:39
brownie17why isn't rythmbox in synaptic?12:39
gorillaidab, update user set password("new password") where user ="root"12:39
Frafrahttp://rafb.net/paste/results/AQxL5J34.html -- I need a library?12:39
onkarshindebrownie17: What do you mean? Are you on breesy preview?12:40
idabhmm..12:40
idabok12:40
Seveasgorilla, bad idea12:40
Seveaswon't work12:40
idabthats the terminal command right12:40
Seveasand will make it impossible to login12:40
brownie17onkarshinde, noi am not, is it spelt "rhythmbox"?12:40
gorillaSeveas, which bit??12:40
cvtwhich files do i download?  http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html12:40
idabSeveas, tell please12:40
Seveasnot crypt() ing the password bit12:40
onkarshindebrownie17: Right. You misspelled it. Correct is rhythmbox12:40
gorillaSeveas, you don't crypt is you password() it :-)12:40
onkarshindecvt: Why do you need mplayer?12:40
idabSeveas, so hw?12:41
brownie17onkarshinde, argh, missedspelt in X-Chat but not in synaptic12:41
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thoreauputicGNU-GPL: sorry to stuff that up :(12:41
cvtonkarshinde, to play videos12:41
rcdarkangelhi all12:41
cvti can't even play a dvd right now12:41
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: the factoid looks fine now, thanks12:41
Seveasgorilla, ah missed the () but now it is a syntax error ;)12:41
Madeyeyou know what i cannot understand, only 118MB need to upgrade?>12:41
brownie17onkarshinde, ohhh. i did misspell it12:41
idabSeveas, please tell with the correct syntext12:41
brownie17onkarshinde, now i feel like a fool12:41
cvti  don't understand which files to download because it's too confusing.12:41
onkarshindecvt: Install totem-xine instead. It will replace totem-gstreamer and works pretty well.12:41
rcdarkangelcan i get a hand?12:41
Seveasidab, I don't know by heart, read the mysql manual...12:42
gorillaSevas, update user set password=password("new password") where user ="root"12:42
idabok12:42
onkarshindecvt: Use Synaptic for installing totem-xine12:42
gorillaSeveas, you then need to flush the tables.12:42
Seveasgorilla, doesnt set password password('foo'); also work?12:42
rcdarkangelI need someone help?12:42
GNU-GPLthoreauputic, no prob ;-)12:42
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: OK :)12:43
gorillaSeveas, I'm not sure... depends on mysql version.12:43
gorillaSeveas, perhaps??12:43
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finnrcdarkangel, just ask your question, people will probably help12:43
rcdarkangelsorry12:43
onkarshindecvt: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=9&url=https%3A//wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats&ei=K2chQ_i7LZ22YJjq1L8E12:43
rcdarkangeldid not want to bother anyone too much12:43
onkarshindercdarkangel: This is the place to bother others. Otherwise the community will collapse12:44
cvtonkarshinde, i have no idea what that link means.  i've been reading it for days.12:44
brownie17onkarshinde, rhythmbox was working fine, then i installed the plugin that is the only other file in synaptic when you search for it, and now it won't load. i can uninstall the plugin, and it will probably work again, but the amount of just annoying little stuff-ups like this in ubuntu in REALLY giving me the shits12:44
finnpeople wouldn't hang out here if they did mind people asking questions12:44
onkarshindecvt: You need to edit some files12:44
brownie17onkarshinde, i really want this plugin to work, got any ideas?12:45
onkarshindecvt: Type this command on terminal 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'12:45
rcdarkangeli was trying to install gftp-2.0.18. But it asked for all these other things. so i installed them through the package manager but when ever i try to ./configure gtk+-2.8.1. i get errors saying i dont have the latesest files of cairo etc. ANd python wont let me install it. I am a total newb have just swtiched from windows xp to linux because some idiot put me in charge of 3 servers at work :-)12:45
onkarshindebrownie17: haven't played with R***x very much. So no idea12:45
brownie17onkarshinde, how do i find out which version of rhythmbox i have?12:46
rcdarkangelim so used to being flamed12:46
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Seveasrcdarkangel, don't compilr things yourself12:46
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: why are you compiling gftp?12:46
Seveasit's all in the repositories...12:46
rcdarkangelcause it told me to12:46
onkarshindebrownie17: try dpkg --list rhythmbox12:46
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Seveasyou only fuck up your system by compiling all these things yourself12:46
finnie, just type in 'sudo apt-get install gftp'12:46
cvtonkarshinde, ok i did that12:47
B|ueMatDoes it matter when mounting a fat fs in ubuntu if its FAT or FAT32?12:47
brownie17onkarshinde, thanx12:47
noirequusrcdarkangel: yes you do (my ibook breezy upgrade got scrambled cuz of all the crap i had on it)12:47
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rcdarkangeloh12:47
rcdarkangelim sorry12:47
onkarshindecvt: now you have to uncomment (remove #) some lines that have words like 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/hoary universe'12:48
rcdarkangelyay it works that was easy12:48
finnrcdarkangel, nah, don't be sorry :) just enjoy the learning experience12:48
finnthe wonders of apt-get12:48
gorillarcdarkangel, you should only compile something if it's not available in a repository.. and you are willing to break other stuff.12:48
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rcdarkangeli am finding it is very, very different to windows12:48
aftertafrcdarkangel:  it IS... ;)12:48
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: you might want to add the universe repository at least12:48
onkarshindeB|ueMat: It doesn't matter which is it. You always specify it as vfat.12:48
rcdarkangel?12:48
noirequusrcdarkangel: much more freedom here12:48
thoreauputic!tell rcdarkangel about repos12:48
rcdarkangelno more microsfot activation yay!12:49
B|ueMatonkarshinde, thatnks I know there is a lot of issues with NTFS, is FAT moreless godd to go?12:49
thoreauputic!tell rcdarkangel about synaptic12:49
gorillarcdarkangel, What's microsoft activation? ;-)12:49
rcdarkangellol12:50
finnrcdarkangel, http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories that is probably a good place to start learning about repositories, apt-get and getting most of the software installed you'll ever need12:50
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onkarshindeB|ueMat: There are really very less issued with NTFS. But what actually you want to do using NTFS or FAT?12:50
rcdarkangeli was already reading that guide but thanks for the linkgs12:50
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onkarshindecvt: Refer this page http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories12:50
cvtonkarshinde, can't i just install mplayer to handle all this?12:50
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: actually be careful of that guide- it isn't always right12:50
B|ueMatonkarshinde, I want to be able to write from linux to FAT32 partiton, basically to transfer stuff between both OS, I know and have used NTFS read only..12:51
rcdarkangelmy company has got rid of every other technician including the linux gurus put me in charge of all the servers, adsl and dialup and said dont f**K up. so im glad ppl like you are here12:51
Gorgonzolarcdarkangel, it is very different to windows but as a new ubuntu user myself i can assure you you'll quickly get up to pace (enough to figure most things out yourself)12:51
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: a better place to look is the wiki12:51
thoreauputic!tell rcdarkangel about docs12:51
noirequusonkarshinde: please dont advise that, we have a bot here just for that purpose12:51
Gorgonzolarcdarkangel, hehe, been dumped into something is the best way to learn.... although trying not to f**k up is the hard part :)12:51
finni'm glad i just said probably then :)12:51
rcdarkangelim scared to hell lol12:52
onkarshindecvt: The package management in Ubuntu takes care of all dependencies. It will make easy to install almost any package if you follow this.12:52
noirequus!tell rcdarkangel about sources12:52
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gorillanoirequus, can we programm the bot to kick anyone that mentions ubuntuguide.org?? :-)12:52
rcdarkangeli must say i like the whole penguin thing12:52
onkarshindeB|ueMat: In that case FAT32 is really good. No problems with it at all.12:52
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: bookmark the URLs ubotu is sending you ;)12:52
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rcdarkangel already have!12:52
B|ueMatonkarshinde, Thanks alot12:53
rob^gorilla, don't worry about it, once breezy is released you wont need ubuntu guide12:53
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: :))12:53
noirequusgorilla: not so abrupt, but'd be nice for it to issue an explanation of it12:53
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gorillarob^, how does breezy change the situation?12:53
rob^gorilla, the FAQ Guide will be the default help in Yelp12:54
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noirequusgorilla: the doc team is building a ubuntu howto guide, to be released with breezy12:54
Madeyeyou know what i cannot understand, only 118MB need to upgrade?>12:54
gorillaoh :-) nice one guys...12:54
rob^:) thanks12:54
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rcdarkangelthank you all. my current problem is solved but i think i might stick around for a while :-)12:55
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: welcome to Freedom ;-)12:55
noirequusrcdarkangel: be careful, you'll end up helpin someone12:55
monteiroi've my system slow with a P4 2,4 with 256 RAM (my mouse stops is a logitech ps/2 mouse) in winxp the mouse works perfecly :(((12:56
rcdarkangellol me. I dont think i will ever know enough lol12:56
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: you'll be surprised12:56
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thoreauputicrcdarkangel: if you lurk you'll soon have a repertoire of answers :)12:57
onkarshindercdarkangel: I used to think same way. Now I can give advice to others on my own.12:57
rcdarkangelwatch cat radius.log12:58
rcdarkangelshit12:58
rcdarkangelwrong window12:58
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rcdarkangelbash- lol is not a command12:58
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: I do that all the time ;)12:59
thoreauputicrcdarkangel: hahah12:59
rob^rcdarkangel, bash is a command, a command that runs the bash terminal12:59
candlelightgorilla, what's wrong with ubuntuguide when it's listed on the ubuntu doc site?12:59
rob^%s/command/program/01:00
candlelightgorilla, anyone suggesting something listed on the official site deserves a kick?01:00
rob^!ubuntuguide01:00
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.01:00
thoreauputiccandlelight: if you hang around here for a while you'll see that the guide has caused some problems01:00
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rob^!faq01:00
uboturumour has it, faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions01:00
rob^hmm that will have to change01:01
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Gryvixhmm a menu froze in my menubar, anyone knows how to unfreeze it?01:03
rob^ubotu no faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)01:03
uboturob^: okay01:03
rcdarkangelanswer me this01:04
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da_bon_bonhi all01:04
da_bon_bonanyone tried breezy preview ?01:04
rcdarkangelwho the hell puts a 17 year old in charge for the servers for a country wide isp?01:04
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rob^da_bon_bon, yes01:04
gorillathanks rob.01:04
da_bon_bonrcdarkangel: who is the 17 year old ?01:04
rob^da_bon_bon, its good01:04
rcdarkangelme01:05
da_bon_bonrob^: define "good"01:05
da_bon_bonpelas01:05
da_bon_bon*please01:05
da_bon_boni am debating whether to try it or no01:05
rob^da_bon_bon, wait until it is released though if you are not experienced yet01:05
da_bon_bonor wait for stable01:05
da_bon_bonrob^: i am pretty experienced01:05
da_bon_bonwhich issues, very noticable, does it solve ?01:05
pawdrohow to get make-jpkg?01:05
da_bon_bonand noticable new features01:05
da_bon_bonpawdro: apt-get install java-package01:06
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rob^I've not seen any noticable problems with the latest preview01:06
Gryvixhmm a menu froze in my menubar, anyone knows how to unfreeze it?01:06
da_bon_bonrob^: ok .. any new features ?01:06
da_bon_bonGryvix: wait for a few mins .. else killall gnome-panel01:07
rob^da_bon_bon, heaps01:07
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da_bon_bonrob^: heaps ? what are they ?01:07
rob^da_bon_bon, check out Beagle and Best, they rock01:07
cvtonkarshinde, i don't understand it.01:07
da_bon_bonrob^: beagle is included ?01:07
rob^yes01:07
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pawdrois make-jpkg required to make every package?01:07
da_bon_bonrob^: oh! i thought "heaps" was a feature :(01:07
cvtwhatever happened, i can no longer play mp3'snow01:07
rob^haha01:07
da_bon_bonpawdro: if you want a debian style java package, yes..01:08
da_bon_bonnot every package01:08
da_bon_bonpawdro: i suggest you use the unofficial ubuntu add-ons cdrom01:08
TrebzDoes anyone know of a tool similar to query analyzer (that comes with MSSQL server) for linux?01:08
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darksatanicTrebz: MySQL has the "DESCRIBE" command.01:09
darksatanicI think PostgreSQL has something similar.01:09
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Trebzthanks01:10
da_bon_bonrob^: any other ?01:10
rob^my faq guide in yelp :)01:10
da_bon_bonrob^: would u suggest a hoary -> breezy update, or a clean install01:10
CaiN_SAwhooooooooohooooooooooo01:10
rob^OOo201:10
CaiN_SAmy live cd works01:10
rob^Ubuntu is made to be easily able to be dist-upgraded01:11
da_bon_bonrob^: great :) more ?01:11
darksatanicTrebz: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/sql-explain.html01:11
da_bon_bonrob^: so, ok if i dist-upgrade to breezy ?01:11
CaiN_SArob^, not ubuntu01:11
rob^yes01:11
CaiN_SArather say : debian based distrobutions01:11
cvtwhat did he have me do that stopped my mp3's from playing?01:11
da_bon_bonright CaiN_SA :)01:11
noirequusda_bon_bon: in *nix, one usually installs once, and upgrades forevermore01:11
da_bon_bonnoirequus: hmm.. fedora people dont :)01:12
rob^CaiN_SA, yes, but Ubuntu is focused on that01:12
CaiN_SAdebian also01:12
rob^more so then debian, although both are ok01:12
CaiN_SAo da_bon_bon01:12
CaiN_SAyes hoary to breezy works fine01:12
CaiN_SAmy other pc ran it01:12
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: you did a hoary to breezy ?01:12
CaiN_SAworks 100%01:13
CaiN_SAyes01:13
noirequusbut i'd wait a couple of weeks01:13
CaiN_SAnope01:13
CaiN_SAbreezy is fine01:13
rob^we did it to a pc at my last lug meet, all is good but wait until release01:13
CaiN_SAin my opinion01:13
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: you got OOo2 ? beagle ? best ?01:13
CaiN_SAno01:13
CaiN_SAi got OO101:13
darksatanicCaiN_SA: OO.o doesn't work on AMD64 at the moment.01:13
CaiN_SAlol01:13
rob^yep01:13
CaiN_SAopenoffice ?01:13
CaiN_SAhow cant openoffice work on amd64 ?01:14
darksatanicLibrary mismatch.01:14
CaiN_SAlol ok01:14
CaiN_SAjava rubbish :P01:14
darksatanicIt wants libstdc++.so.6, and only .5 is available in ia32-libs01:14
darksatanicNothing to do with Java.01:14
CaiN_SAyeh01:14
CaiN_SAbut i dont like java01:14
CaiN_SAso ill blme it on that01:14
darksatanicNo, if you do that sort of thing, the list of reasons to hate Java just becomes totally unmanageable.01:15
da_bon_bonlol, darksatanic01:15
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: you didnt get ooo2 ?01:15
da_bon_bonwhy the hell ?01:15
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CaiN_SAoo2 is bete01:16
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CaiN_SA*beta01:16
CaiN_SAits not installed by default01:16
thoreauputiccvt: what's the trouble?01:16
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: on breezy it is NOT ?01:16
da_bon_bonrob^: ??01:16
CaiN_SAno01:16
CaiN_SAbeta stuff01:16
CaiN_SAisnt on by default01:16
rob^da_bon_bon, sorry?01:16
CaiN_SAapt-get install openoffice.org201:16
CaiN_SAthen you got it01:16
darksatanicI'm just trying that. :)01:17
da_bon_bonrob^: CaiN_SA is telling hoary to breezy wont give ooo2 by default01:17
CaiN_SAyes01:17
CaiN_SAduh01:17
CaiN_SAlisten01:17
CaiN_SAyou cant replace01:17
CaiN_SAa stable product01:17
rob^da_bon_bon, its not hard to install anyway01:17
CaiN_SAwith a  beta one01:17
rob^just use synaptic01:17
CaiN_SAya rob^01:17
da_bon_bonrob^: but, a breezy preview cd has ooo2 ..01:17
CaiN_SAits easy01:17
da_bon_bon?01:17
rob^yep01:17
CaiN_SAlol01:17
CaiN_SAya01:17
CaiN_SAbut01:18
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: gah! i am talking about a default install.01:18
CaiN_SAhoary update wont do it auto01:18
gorillaCaiN_SA, Agreed... rolled out beta software in releases is broken...01:18
rob^I have both installed..01:18
CaiN_SAomg da_bon_bon01:18
CaiN_SAread what you said :01:18
da_bon_bonrob^: so.. i think some other hoary things to might not be updated.. or that is not the case ?01:18
CaiN_SAhoary to breezy update01:18
cvtwill someone walk me through how to play videos please?01:18
thoreauputicCaiN_SA: a little more punctuation and a little less "enter", please01:19
da_bon_bonCaiN_SA: i mean, the upgrade wont give it, but the cd has it .. i want to clarify that ..01:19
rob^da_bon_bon, everything should be updated that needs it01:19
da_bon_boncvt: ubuntuguide.org01:19
rob^!ubuntuguide01:19
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.01:19
CaiN_SAyes da_bon_bon01:19
cvti need something more specific.01:19
GNU-GPLwell well.. no advise for ubuntuguide eh? it's the best guide aviable now (hoary)01:20
da_bon_bonok rob^ , didnt know that :(01:20
rob^GNU-GPL, no, use the wiki01:20
da_bon_boncvt: http://y.mrbass.org/ubuntuaddon.zip --- this works too01:20
da_bon_bonthough unofficial01:20
GNU-GPLwhy?01:20
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: this has been debated at some length :)01:20
rob^yes01:20
GNU-GPLooh.. ok..01:20
GNU-GPLwell i find it a bit strange... that's all01:20
da_bon_bonrob^: i think ug is good for people who "just want it" without bothering to know the internals :)01:20
rob^wiki is official, everyone can make sure it is correct01:20
rob^ubuntuguide is done by one person01:21
rob^and it breaks systems01:21
GNU-GPLwell wike can be changed by anyone, so it's not so trustworthy01:21
GNU-GPL:P01:21
gorillada_bon_bon, except some of it is wrong!!01:21
GNU-GPLwike = wiki01:21
rob^da_bon_bon, you will like the faq guide01:21
da_bon_bonrob^: can i get a proof copy ?01:21
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thoreauputicGNU-GPL: yes, well the ubuntuguide has its good and bad points, but soon, hopefully, we won't need it01:21
da_bon_bongorilla: whats wrong ?01:21
gorillaGNU-GPL, yes and you can find out what was chnaged... not a problem.01:21
rob^The FAQ Guide in Breezy is based off ubuntuguide, but its heaps different01:21
cvtthere is no plugin to handle this movie01:22
GNU-GPLok.. i'll wait then01:22
GNU-GPL;)01:22
rob^for previews, see: http://doc.ubuntu.com/01:22
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: in general the wiki seems pretty good01:22
da_bon_bonrob^: i want your final opinion .. should i get a cd, or must i update from hoary ?01:22
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thoreauputiccvt: have you installed w32codecs?01:22
gorillada_bon_bon, the wrong things are 1. giving a list of instruction without explaination. 2. expecting people to jump to differtent sections.... ahhh enough reasons, I think.01:22
cvti don't think so.01:22
GNU-GPLda_bon_bon, does it matter?01:22
rob^da_bon_bon, wait until closer to release then update to breezy once all the bugs are ironed out01:22
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thoreauputic!tell cvt about codecs01:23
goorob^: sssh! I am upgrading to breezy as we speak :] 01:23
cvti already read that like ten times.  i don't understand it.01:23
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thoreauputiccvt: the URLs for hoary-extras are near the bottom of that page01:23
rob^gorilla, it depends why they are jumping, telling people to see other sections is a technique used in lots of books01:23
goo!tell goo about codecs01:23
rob^goo, heh01:24
cvtk01:24
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GNU-GPL!tell ubotu about linux01:24
rob^!restrictedformats01:24
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'01:24
thoreauputiccvt: are you OK with editing your sources.list?01:24
linnergreetings and salutations01:24
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cvti don't know01:24
GNU-GPLhowdy01:24
rob^ok, I got some work to do on the guide..01:24
rob^bbl01:24
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linnerhow the heck are ya'll?01:25
gorillarob^, good point, but I found myself jumping becuase it wasn't explaining what was happening... or why to do it that way.01:25
GNU-GPLlinner, fine01:25
thoreauputiccvt: have you read the synaptic howto?01:25
cvtyes01:25
Somada142A little help : why is that totem player so bad with divx videos? the fps is terribly low01:25
cvtthe terms are over my head.01:25
rob^gorilla, in the faq guide it tells you why you are jumping01:25
linnerGNU-GPL, looks like i'm not the only one who can't sleep01:25
rob^I spent 6 hours last night fixing it before string freeze today01:25
thoreauputiccvt: OK well use synaptic to add hoary-extras, reload, and install w32codecs01:25
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pawdrowhat to do if I want to make package from eclipse?01:26
GNU-GPLlinner, it's daylight time here01:26
reikisleep? it's almost 7:30am here and I have to go to work in about 20 minutes01:26
reiki:)01:26
linnerahhh... it's 4:26a gere01:26
linnerhere evenb01:26
linnercan't type ... sorry01:26
linner:)01:26
GNU-GPLlol01:26
TrebzHow can I stop linux changing my bios clock an hour backwards?01:26
gorilla8:56pm here.01:26
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thoreauputiccvt: do you know anyone near where you live who can help with Ubuntu or Linux?01:26
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linnerreiki, you must be on the east coast eh?01:26
da_bon_bonhi01:26
da_bon_bonsorry got disconnected01:26
Somada142someone please a little help with totem player?01:26
da_bon_bonrob^: didnt catch your answer01:27
reikilinner, yepper :)01:27
da_bon_bonSomada142: shoot :)01:27
GNU-GPLlolz01:27
linneri'm originally from georgia01:27
linner:)01:27
rob^da_bon_bon, to what?01:27
linnerda_bon_bon, hello :)01:27
cvtthoreauputic, no.  I actually help others install ubuntu and knoppix.01:27
Somada142i try to play divx and xvid videos but its terribly slow01:27
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thoreauputiclinner: Southern Belle, eh ? ;)01:27
cvtbut that's as far as i can go.01:27
da_bon_bonrob^: i can download the iso of preview, and then use it as an apt source to update, right ?01:27
linnerthoreauputic, you know it!01:27
thoreauputiclinner: :)01:27
rob^yeah, but why bother?01:28
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linnerthoreauputic, *big grin*01:28
rob^GNU-GPL, not compleatly01:28
da_bon_bonrob^: that way, i can always use the cd as a "clean install" source01:28
linnerwho the heck is Richard Stallman?01:28
rcdarkangela great advocate of the free software movement01:28
Renskilinner: a very scary man who I have nightmares about01:28
linnerI think tonight I have an easy question, Thoreauputic... :)01:28
GNU-GPLrob^, i know.. but he started it01:28
GNU-GPL;)01:28
linnerRenski, sorry to hear that... :)01:28
rob^yes, he had the forsight01:28
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linnerI just downloaded and installed an ftp program.  Where on my system would I find it?01:29
rcdarkangel*01:29
rcdarkangellot at thor01:29
linnerthoreauputic, LOL01:29
idabcan anyone tell how to change the pass for sql server/01:29
GNU-GPLlinner, see my dad: http://www.stallman.org/01:29
GNU-GPL:P01:29
Renskimysql?01:29
joblackHey guys, what's going wrong if my Ubuntu starts hanging for about 10 minutes while loading "Gnome session manager proxy"?01:29
linnerGNU-GPL, are you joking?01:29
thoreauputiclinner: but I admit I'm easy01:29
thoreauputic;)01:29
linnerthoreauputic, I'll be sure to spread it around... :)01:29
GNU-GPLhttp://www.stallman.org/RMS_13_bendicindo.jpg01:29
idabRenski, yeah01:29
GNU-GPLguess who my dad is :P01:29
thoreauputiclinner: hahah01:30
da_bon_bonanyway01:30
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linner:)01:30
da_bon_bonupdated my apt sources01:30
da_bon_bonwill update to breezy01:30
da_bon_boncya all for now01:30
joblackGNU-GPL: I'd be surprised not even if that guy'd find woman, but if he'd figure out how to use it01:30
Renskiwhich password do you want to change, a users?01:30
Renskior root?01:30
GNU-GPLLOL01:30
joblack(Being myself a woman, I can assert you the last sentence is not anti-feministic)01:30
thoreauputiclinner: call <insert number> for a Good Time01:30
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reikicall 1-800-thoreauputic For a Good Time01:31
linnerthoreauputic, you're a hoot!01:31
thoreauputicheh01:31
GNU-GPLlmao01:31
linnerGNU-GPL, ok so I went... what am i looking for?01:31
GNU-GPL?01:32
joblackNobody any ideas?01:32
Renskiidab: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMySQL.html01:32
reikihmmmm.... dog farts... better take her out before I go to work....01:32
linnerit's quite text oriented... and i'm not into reading anything at this hour... :(  sorry....01:32
thoreauputiccvt: do you have a local LUG ? (Linux Users Group)01:32
linnerdog farts???  ewe.........01:32
reikiindeed01:32
reikibrb01:32
GNU-GPLhow about rhino farts01:32
linnerGNU-GPL, little big for a pet isn't it?01:33
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: take the rhino out too01:33
rcdarkangellol01:33
reikiI don't have a pet rhino... I'd need a bigger yard... and a bigger pooper scooper01:33
rcdarkangelnothing worse then a dog fart01:33
linnerno kidding... my puppy shoots 'em out left and right...01:33
thoreauputicOK OK ... take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)01:33
GNU-GPLwell.. not in africa01:33
GNU-GPL;)01:33
GNU-GPLthey life praticaly in your backyard01:33
linnershe's has the rankest butt on the planet!01:33
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linnerand it's so weird too... cause she's just the cutest little thing01:34
linnerok... enough about flatulence01:34
linner:)01:34
gorillabeware the innocent looking things :-)01:34
thoreauputicseriously now - #ubuntu-offtopic exists :)01:34
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linnerI  know huh Gorilla!01:34
linnerok... back to seriousness...01:34
linnerI have downloaded and installed an FTP program.  Where on my 'puter would I find it?01:35
GNU-GPLlol01:35
GNU-GPL*prrrrt*01:35
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linnerI can't find it for the life of me....01:35
GNU-GPLthoreauputic, well try harder01:35
GNU-GPL:P01:35
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thoreauputicGNU-GPL: watch your step! /me makes officious noises01:36
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=== linner grabs a dictionary to find out if "officious" is a word... :)
thoreauputiclinner: when did you have your imagination transplant ?01:36
thoreauputic*g*01:36
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linner:)01:36
GNU-GPL!tell linner about officious01:36
thoreauputiclinner: it is, don't bother looking01:37
linnerI'm just kiddin' around, Thoreau... :)01:37
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gorilla!define officious01:37
ubotugorilla: I don't know, could you explain it?01:37
GNU-GPLa little humor enlightens the day01:37
rcdarkangel! so as an opinion whats the best install of linux. Please no bias :-)01:37
uboturcdarkangel: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:37
thoreauputiclinner: yeah I know :)01:37
rcdarkangelso as an opinion whats the best install of linux. Please no bias :-)01:37
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nalioths_dogrcdarkangel, openbsd01:37
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linnerUbuntu.01:37
linnerduh.01:37
linner:)01:37
gorillarcdarkangel, ummm.. BSD.. I'm not biased :-)01:38
nalioths_dogdo i win a prize?01:38
GNU-GPLubotu: officious is the way thoreauputic sounds01:38
ubotuokay, GNU-GPL01:38
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: awww :(01:38
linnerGNU-GPL, understood... thanks! :)01:38
joblackDamn does nobody have that problem that loading gnome session manager proxy hangs for a couple of minutes?01:38
gorillaGNU-GPL, you mean types :-)01:38
GNU-GPL!forget officious01:38
ubotui forgot officious, GNU-GPL01:38
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linner:)01:39
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GNU-GPLubotu: thoreauputic is a very nice person!01:39
rcdarkangeli gotta switch to my windows install for a sec be back soon01:39
ubotuGNU-GPL: okay01:39
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thoreauputicGNU-GPL: ROFL01:39
thoreauputic:D01:39
GNU-GPLhehe01:39
linnerYou know it's bad when you feel the need to talk to a bot!01:40
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aftertafand you're in trouble when the bot talks back01:40
linneraftertaf!01:40
GNU-GPLyes01:40
linnerhow the heck are ya'!01:40
thoreauputiclinner: try the EMACS psychiatrist some time :)01:40
rob^!vi01:40
uboturob^: Not a clue01:40
Somada142someone please a little help with totem player? i try to play divx and xvid videos but its terribly slow01:40
rob^haha01:40
gorillaor some other eliza bot :-)01:40
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duffman25Hi. My sound in breezy is choppy. I had hoary sound working fine, but after upgrading sound is choppy. I did the hack in http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly01:41
thoreauputic!start an editor war01:41
ubotunotepad is better than xemacs01:41
aftertafcool... getting myself confused with funky linux features01:41
thoreauputichah01:41
gorillabotu: vi is not emacs01:41
rob^duffman25, thats your problem, you used ubuntuguide01:41
gorillauot: vi is not emacs01:41
linneraftertaf, you too? :)01:41
aftertaflinner:  oh yeah!! bigtime01:41
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duffman25ok01:41
GNU-GPLubotu: vi is not emacs ;)01:41
ubotuokay, GNU-GPL01:41
thoreauputiclinner: no no - there really *is* an EMACS psychiatrist, and it's funny01:41
Linux_Galorehmm01:41
aftertafhad to reboot both.01:41
duffman25thanxs01:41
duffman25....01:41
linnerthoreauputic, ahh... can you tell I'm a newbie?01:41
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linner:)01:42
linneraftertaf, what's doing on???01:42
duffman25My sound in breezy is choppy. I had hoary sound working fine, but after upgrading sound is choppy. I did the hack in http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly01:42
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linneraftertaf, not that I can help you... but I have a shoulder for ya'! :)01:42
reikiok... time to go... see ya'll in a bit from work01:42
gorillalinner: forget it you can still see blonde roots.01:42
duffman25can somebody help me (I know rob^wont)01:42
thoreauputiclinner: well, not any more - you are a bit of a regular aren't you <wink>01:42
aftertafHZSCN reiki ;)01:42
reikigetting so I hate to go to work just because I have to use a windows box.... that's weird01:42
aftertafer... ops.01:42
idabhey01:42
linnergorilla, I don't think so... ask Thoreauputic!  Nice try though. :)01:42
idabanyone mind telling me how to addusers to mysql?01:43
linnerthoreauputic, why yes I am!! :)01:43
reikiaftertaf, Dai Ko Myo01:43
onkarshindeduffman25: Why at all you upgraded? This isn't final breesy release.01:43
Linux_Galorereiki: really.........wow I dont have windows at work...........some weird Linux virus wiped all the machines01:43
GNU-GPLubotu: newbie is a person who knows allmost nothing about a certain topic.01:43
ubotuokay, GNU-GPL01:43
duffman25I did the upgrade because I wanted to help with breezy testing01:43
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rob^hmm, like yourself who doesn't know how to spell "almost"01:43
aftertaflinner:  a shoulder is cool.   a thing to stopmy brain falling out would be even better....01:43
reikiLinux_Galore, I wish... right now I'm slowly convincing them, but it's at a university and things happen slowly there :)01:43
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thoreauputic*linner is a _blonde_ newbie01:44
Linux_Galorereiki: well use old machines and start a clug up01:44
rob^ubotu forget newbie01:44
ubotui forgot newbie, rob^01:44
Linux_Galoreclub*01:44
linneraftertaf, I can let you borrow my stompy thing. :)01:44
GNU-GPLubotu: newbie is a person who knows almost nothing about a certain topic.01:44
ubotuGNU-GPL: okay01:44
pawdrowhere I can find the latest eclipse deb package01:44
duffman25I though people in here would try to help...01:44
GNU-GPLthere01:44
linnerthoreauputic, this is a true statement :)01:44
aftertafGNU-GPL:  not good advice to muck around with the bot...01:44
thoreauputiclinner: I cannot tell a lie01:44
rob^GNU-GPL, don't fill the bot full of crap01:44
aftertafjust from past observations01:44
idabhello01:44
Linux_Galorehmm go a cup of coffee01:44
idabcan someone please tell01:44
idab?01:44
linnerthoreauputic, you just did my friend ;)01:44
reikiLinux_Galore, they have a university approved linux distribution, but it isn't used in our offices. My boss is at least listening though01:45
duffman25and not question why I use the ubuntuguide or why I upgraded to breezy eventhough it's not final01:45
GNU-GPL!forget newbie01:45
ubotui forgot newbie, GNU-GPL01:45
idabhow to addusers to mysql01:45
Linux_Galoresudo apt-get coffee01:45
thoreauputiclinner: I'll pay that ;)01:45
Linux_Galoredamn didnt work now i have to get up01:45
aftertaflinner:  thoreauputic just did your friend??? hmmm01:45
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linneraftertaf, what??????????????//01:45
duffman25anyone knows how to reconfigure sound packages to default settings?01:45
reikiLinux_Galore,  and that'd be apt-get INSTALL coffee.... works for me :)01:45
linnerwho said I had friends?  after all, i AM a geek :)01:45
Linux_Galorereiki: heh heh01:45
reikiok... gotta run01:46
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thoreauputiclinner: you're a corrupting influence - i probably should kick you ;)01:46
Somada142someone please a little help with totem player? i try to play divx and xvid videos but its terribly slow01:46
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linnerLOL01:46
delltonyhi, can someone help me with a breezy upgrade issue? after running dist-upgrade and letting everything finish on startup i get checking battery state and it simply will not go any further01:46
duffman25Somada142: try installing totem-xine package01:46
linnerok.. gotta clean it up... this is a G rated channel :)01:46
aftertafbetter go offtopic ppl.... others need help01:46
Somada142thanks01:46
delltonyi have tried ctrl c with no luck, any suggestions would be great01:46
Linux_GaloreSomada142: could be a lack of system resources01:46
Somada142noo01:46
Linux_GaloreSomada142: or your using the wrong video driver01:46
Somada142i have 1GB ram 3.02 Ghz01:46
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Somada142i dnl the divx from the ubuntu page01:47
linneraftertaf is right... sorry everyone :)01:47
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duffman25Somada142: try installing totem-xine package, gstreamer video is a somehow lacking01:47
delltonynext question would be if the install is hosed can i save all the stuff on my system and put the iso cd in and to an upgrade that way?01:47
duffman25the xine library is far better01:47
GNU-GPLoops, i made a boo boo01:47
Somada142ok i'll try that , thanks a lot01:47
Somada142do i have to uninstall gstreamer?01:48
duffman25no01:48
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duffman25just install totem-xine01:48
Linux_Galoreduffman25: and to think they swapped totem 100% to gstreamer in 2.1201:48
duffman25it will uninstall totem-gstreamer package01:48
Somada142and then i'll be able to play the files wit totme player or sth else?01:48
duffman25but that's ok01:48
Somada142so its codecs?01:48
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=== Linux_Galore uses mplayer
=== GNU-GPL too
Somada142just by using totem-xine totem player is going to fucntion properly?01:49
duffman25the package I'm talking about installs the libxine library01:49
onkarshindeSomada142: It is a multimedia framework/backend01:49
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duffman25which is another multimedia library01:49
deFryskSomada142, probably yes01:49
duffman25it's a workaround01:49
duffman25so totem will play files with that library01:49
onkarshindeSomada142: Sure it will work. I have tried that and played DVD with totem.01:49
Linux_Galoreyeah totem has gotten pretty slick lately01:50
duffman25if it doesn't work in your box, you can uninstall it, and it will reinstall totem-gstreamer package01:50
idabhello01:50
Somada142oh what about the thousands of dependacies? are those installed by default?01:50
idabplease tell me how to add users to mysql01:50
duffman25it doesnt have thousands of dependencies01:51
Somada142i don't have a connection back home so i'll have to dnl manually everything01:51
duffman25but, yes... it will install everything it needs.01:51
Linux_Galoreits funny I dont get any lag with totem-gs and Ive only got a P3 1gb01:51
Somada142sure it does , a whole bunch of libraries01:51
wickedpuppyhi guys /dev/sda is sata or usb ?01:51
priestidab:: Use phpmyadmin.01:51
darksatanicwickedpuppy: Could be either.01:51
Linux_Galore1Ghz01:51
wickedpuppyoh hmms ...pl01:51
wickedpuppyok01:51
idabpriest, tell how to install it pls01:51
wickedpuppyidab, you still asking here ? try phpmyadmin.net01:52
duffman25totem-gstreamer works fine with somethings, but here dvd playback & divx-xvid is choppy01:52
wickedpuppyyou should be good enough to help :P01:52
duffman25that's why I use totem-xine backend01:52
Linux_Galorenaaw everything I have is xvid..........all works fine01:52
darksatanicwickedpuppy: SATA, USB and SCSI all use the same SCSI disk layer, so they all appear as SCSI drives (/dev/sdX)01:52
duffman25can someone help me with my sound problem01:53
duffman25?01:53
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cvtthx everyone01:53
cvtdvd works01:53
Linux_GaloreIve got a Nvidia FX5950 128mbDDR400 card01:53
cvt<301:53
onkarshindeduffman25: gstreamer with GNOME 2.12 is supposed to play DVDs also.01:53
duffman25it plays dvd's01:54
duffman25but no menus01:54
duffman25at least in mybox01:54
duffman25i'm using breezy01:54
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linnerhey guys ... does anyone know where I can get a quick reference for linux and/or ubuntu terminal commands?01:54
duffman25and it's choppy01:54
onkarshindeBut GNOME's site said it supports menus now.01:54
duffman25no01:54
duffman25it was stated in the pre-release tour01:55
wickedpuppylinner, try google .. search for bash tutorial01:55
duffman25and something said there haven't got in gnome 2.1201:55
linnerwickedpuppy, thank you!01:55
duffman25for example, browsing audio cd's01:55
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Somada142is there a list of all the packages installed in ubuntu by default?01:56
rcdarkangelsu root01:56
bimberilinner, there's also this...01:56
bimberi!cli01:56
ubotuwell, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/01:56
onkarshindeduffman25: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rnusers.html Check video player section.01:56
Hoxzersda01:57
linnerbimberi, very very helpful.. thank you!!!01:57
bimberilinner: yw :)01:57
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duffman25but ubuntu uses gstreamer 0.8 & AFAIK dvd support was included in the 0.9 series01:57
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onkarshindeduffman25: Are you on breezy?01:58
duffman25yes01:58
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onkarshindeduffman25: Then how come it contains gstreamer 0.8? Doesn't it give dependency prob;em for GNOME 2.12?01:59
silwoldoes somebody use a widescreen display with nvidia driver under breezy?01:59
Earthenhow do force hoary to not install from cd01:59
duffman25I don't know01:59
duffman25I imagine ubuntu devs included 0.8 because it's more mature02:00
thoreauputiclinner: did anyone mention http://tuxfiles.org ? (I was afk)02:00
thoreauputiclinner: that's another good cli site02:00
linnerthoreauputic, no they didn't... i'll definitely check it out02:00
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linnerthoreauputic, thank you so much!02:00
EarthenI'm trying to apt-get install webmin, but it is asking for the install cd, how can i make it download the packages from the net02:01
thoreauputiclinner: it's aimed at .. erm .. those who are new to the command line02:01
thoreauputiclinner: but it's quite informative02:01
linnerthoreauputic, exactly what I was looking for and what I wanted... :)02:01
linnerthoreauputic, perfect!02:01
onkarshindeEarthen: comment out the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list02:01
Earthenok thanks02:01
onkarshindeEarthen: And then do apt-get first.02:02
onkarshindesorry apt-get update02:02
Earthenwill do02:02
cvtdo you know how i can get Galaga game like the one that comes with knoppix?02:02
thoreauputiclinner: when you feel like learning more about Ubuntu/Debian style package management and apt, install apt-howto (typing that as a command will open more than you wanted to know about apt-get, in a browser)02:03
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linnerthoreauputic, oh wow... this is such a seriously powerful platform02:03
bimbericvt: there's a xgalaga package in the universe repository02:03
onkarshindeIf I do dist-upgrade hoary to breezy using breezy CD will it install the packages that are supposed to be in breezy fresh install by default but weren't present in hoary (ex. evince, serpentine)02:03
thoreauputiclinner: indeed02:03
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linnerthoreauputic, when the breezy distro is finalized, i'm wiping my windows and putting ubuntu on it02:04
linnerI absolutely adore this platform02:04
qt2|Tsubasanew hoary packages i see...02:04
thoreauputiclinner: great move :)02:04
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linnerthoreauputic, thank you!02:04
gooIf i distupgrade to breezy using the network, wil it still install packages like evince and serpentine?02:04
brownie17hey thoreauputic , pm me?02:05
thoreauputiclinner: my windows partition has been languishing unused and unloved since last year ;)02:05
onkarshindelinner: I already did it. Also since it won't make a difference to my dad as which OS he is using I have Ubuntu on his HP laptop.02:05
thoreauputicbrownie17: what's it about?02:05
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linneronkarshinde, I have a new Compaq V2000Z so hopefully it'll work too!02:05
gooonkarshinde: heh. My dad also runs Ubuntu - only way for him to get any support out of me..02:06
brownie17thoreauputic, a file extension problem i'm having. i'd prefer it if you pm'd me. please02:06
linnerthoreauputic, i'm surprised you still ahve a windows partition with as much as you know02:06
onkarshindethoreauputic: I suppose he is asking for private message02:06
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: I suppose I understood that :)02:06
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linneraftertaf, wb :)02:06
thoreauputiclinner: I haven't used it for a *long* time02:06
Somada141Question : the dvd of ubuntu has both the install and live version of Ubuntu right?02:06
linnerthoreauputic, so it sounds!02:07
onkarshindegoo: linner: I had lot of virus problems with my PC (Win XP). So I dumped Win altogether.02:07
[A] ndy80is it possible to have multiple email accounts under Evolution? I can add another acocunt but mail is all downloaded in the same folder... I'd like something like Thunderbird, with separate folder for each account. is it possible with evolution?02:07
aftertaf;) linner02:07
linneronkarshinde, that absolutely what my goal is in the next three months.. to put it on all of my computers in our family02:07
Somada141Does it have more packages than the install cd? e.g video codecs , mpe codecs e.t.c???02:07
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gooIs breezy available for preorder from shipit?02:08
onkarshindegoo: Not yet. Shipit is closed for now.02:08
gooah. Too bad :)02:08
linner[A] ndy80, I'm not sure.  I haven't been using Evolution very long.  But I would think you would be able too as it's loosely based on Outlook.02:09
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gooI am distributing Ubuntu CD's on my commuter train - all the phb's with laptops there is probably tired of me by now :)02:09
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GNU-GPLlol02:09
linnergoo, what a great idea!02:09
leopoldhow can i find out where my harddisk is located, like i dont know if its /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 etc02:10
thoreauputicleopold: sudo fdisk -l02:10
onkarshindeSomeone was asking for a list of packages installed by default in breezy. Who was that?02:10
aftertafleopold:  cat /etc/fstab02:10
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leopoldthx02:10
linnergosh it's 5:10a and I'm finally yawning... I should go nigh-night folks02:10
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cvthow can i get permission to delete files?02:10
Hoxzer`problem guys02:10
aftertafohmy02:10
goolinner: Much better to give away proper pressed CD's than some homeburned stuff that looks like it'll haxx their machine on sight... :)02:10
linnerthanks again for everyone's help... you guys/gals are the best :)02:10
thoreauputicaftertaf: won't work if they aren't in fstab02:10
aftertafgod morning linner ;)02:11
cvti'm trying to delete some firefox search plugins.02:11
linnergoo, that's very true!02:11
Hoxzer`:E still haven't found a way how to resize Ntsf partition02:11
linneraftertaf, it's not good yet! :)02:11
linnerhowever, thanks for the well wishing ;)02:11
linnersee ya'll later...02:11
Hoxzer`tried qtparted but seems like it doesn't regonsize the data of it :E02:11
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leopoldubuntu doesnt recognize my second harddisk what can I do?02:11
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GNU-GPLsmack ubuntu02:12
GNU-GPL;)02:12
leopoldalready did so02:12
thoreauputicleopold: does it have a filesystem on it?02:12
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leopoldyes theres windowsa on it02:12
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onkarshindeleopold: Have you mounted it?02:12
thoreauputicleopold: what did  sudo fdisk -l say ? (*don't paste it)02:12
leopoldit didnt say anything about my second harddisk02:13
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onkarshindeleopold: try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb'02:14
thoreauputicleopold: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc etc02:14
thoreauputicyup02:14
fraser_can anybody help me here? i downloaded the tar.gz of a fiel becasue the synaptic versino was outdated, and i don't know how to install it02:14
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delltonytar xvzf tarballname02:14
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thoreauputicfraser_: can you wait until October 13 for a newer version?02:15
GNU-GPLfraser_, it's not advisable to do so02:15
delltonythen you can type ./configure in the dir02:15
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Master`hi02:15
delltonythen type make02:15
Master`i need help02:15
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delltonythen type checkinstall and it will make a deb file for you02:15
fraser_thoreauputic, it seems everything i want to do i have to wait for breezy02:15
delltonyand install it so synaptic sees it02:15
thoreauputicfraser_: if you don't know how to compile, you might have trouble02:15
GNU-GPLdelltony, horseshit..02:15
fraser_thoreauputic, will there be alot of bug fixes in the newer version?02:15
delltonyhow so?02:16
delltonydo it all the time02:16
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delltonyand no need for cussin02:16
thoreauputicfraser_: what's wrong with the version you have?02:16
fraser_thoreauputic, your right, i most definaytly will ahve trouble. i have got no idea. i'll just wait02:16
pl_icehi :)02:16
fraser_thoreauputic, well it is a plugin for rythmbox, and when i install the old one, rhythmbox just doesn't  work02:16
onkarshindeDoes anyone know if modem-applet bug, which caused it to ask for root password, is fixed?02:16
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thoreauputicGNU-GPL: 1. delltony was right 2. I won't put up with that kind of stuff02:17
thoreauputicfraser_: which plugin?02:17
Master`guys i wanna install ubuntu into my hd and make it my main os02:17
fraser_it's called rhythmbox - applet or something02:17
Master`can anbody help me02:17
thoreauputicfraser_: you need to be more precise so we can help02:18
fraser_thoreauputic, and when i run rhythmbox in terminal instead, it gives me a "segmentation fault" error02:18
GNU-GPLthoreauputic, yeah well... sorry to you too..02:18
GNU-GPL:)02:18
onkarshindeMaster`: I don't suppose you need any help to do as simple thing as that02:18
thoreauputicGNU-GPL: OK :)02:18
fraser_"Rhythmbox Applet"02:18
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pl_iceanyone tried gammu /gnokii ? with nokia phones?02:18
thoreauputicfraser_: you used synaptic to install it?02:18
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ahmetalsanhi02:18
fraser_thoreauputic, yes02:19
Somada141is there a decent CD/DVD burning utility for ubuntu?02:19
ahmetalsanice can u help me?02:19
Master`yes onkarshinde but i have the setup on my HD now , what's the next step to install it02:19
Somada141a nero-like one?02:19
Master`does it's works like windows installation02:19
thoreauputicfraser_: do any other sound apps work  now?02:19
fraser_thoreauputic, i'll check02:19
ahmetalsanwho can help me with my ubutnu02:19
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onkarshindeMaster`: What do you mean by setup? ISO?02:19
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fraser_thoreauputic, yes02:20
fraser_thoreauputic, they do02:20
bimberiSomada141: k3b is probably the closest to Nero among the Free packages02:20
GNU-GPLtrue!02:20
GNU-GPL:)02:20
pefhello !02:20
Somada141thanks02:20
Somada141can i find it at package.ubuntu?02:20
thoreauputicfraser_: does rhythmbox show any errors?02:20
GNU-GPLhello02:20
cvtlinux is so much better than windows02:20
BlueEaglesomada141: only if you search02:20
thoreauputicfraser_: or just segfaults?02:20
cvti love it and i love you. :)02:20
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Somada141ok02:20
GNU-GPLSomada141, it's there02:20
fraser_thoreauputic, no, only when run in the terminal, it just does the starting rhythmbox then doesnt start02:20
Somada141thnx02:21
ahmetalsanfraser can u help me pls?02:21
cvti can't wait to show this to all my friends and neighbors.02:21
thoreauputicfraser_: I would uninstall the package that caused the trouble02:21
pl_iceahmetalsan , with what?02:21
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Somada141question : since k3b is for KDE will it play on ubuntu?02:21
thoreauputicfraser_:  sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>02:21
ahmetalsanpl_ice i want to install nvida drivers02:21
fraser_ahmetalsan: love to, but i'm a complete rookie, ask thoreauputic02:21
ahmetalsanbut02:21
fraser_thoreauputic,  ok02:21
leopoldsudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb did so it say a couple of stuff but nothing seems to be large enough for a 40GB harddisk theres one with Id: f   and System: W95 ERw. (LBA) could that be the winxp harddisk?02:21
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ahmetalsani cant exit my x server02:22
onkarshindeSomada141: Most probably on installing some additional libararies.02:22
bimberiSomada141: it will, but installing it brings in a lot of dependencies (QT libraries mostly)02:22
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thoreauputicahmetalsan: for what purpose?02:22
pl_iceahmetalsan, i got ATI, did u have a look at forum topics?02:22
onkarshindeahmetalsan: Press Ctrl+Alt+Baclapsce02:22
Somada141isn't there a similar burning program for gnome?02:22
thoreauputicahmetalsan: do you need to do this to install something?02:22
Somada141nautilus is really poor02:22
bimberiSomada141: gnomebaker and graveman02:22
onkarshindeSomada141: I heard gnome-baker is good.02:22
Somada141i'll try that02:23
thoreauputiconkarshinde: that will just restart gdm02:23
delltonythoreauputic my breezy upgrade borked on me not sure what happen i think the dist-upgrade got hung and caused a reboot before complete would you recommend putting theinstall cd in and then doing apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?02:23
aftertafk3b pwns!02:23
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pl_icehey anyone uses nokia? :)02:23
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onkarshindethoreauputic: Perhaps his X is hanged and he doesn't know what to do other than reboot. Lets wait for his reply.02:23
deFryskaftertaf, serpentine pwns!02:23
leopoldi cant find lilo.conf data02:23
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leopoldit should be in /etc/lilo.conf02:24
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leopoldbut isnt02:24
thoreauputicdelltony: hmm - tried running  sudo apt-get -f install?02:24
fraser_thoreauputic, yeah, it works without it. what is the deal with segmentation faults?02:24
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bimberileopold: ubuntu uses grub by default (unless you've installed lilo explicitly)02:24
delltonyyeah well here is the deal02:24
onkarshindeleopold: Are you sure you have installed lilo? It might be grub bootloader02:24
thoreauputicfraser_: uaually a bug02:24
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thoreauputic*usually02:24
delltonyit hangs on checking battery state on bootup02:24
ahmetalsanice how can i exit x ?02:24
jroeshi, does anyone know why Glade on my box doesn't get themed like the rest of the apps?02:24
fraser_thoreauputic, ok. so when breezy comes out the new version of the package might be on synaptic?02:25
leopoldi just installed lilo by apt-get install lilo02:25
deFryskahmetalsan, init 202:25
Whistlerhow do i view my cpu cooler rpm?02:25
leopoldit seemed to have worked out02:25
Whistlerin ubuntu02:25
thoreauputicahmetalsan: be clear: do you need to kill X ? completely?02:25
GNU-GPLahmetalsan, ctrl + alt + backspace02:25
jroesa bunch of other things have the old X interface instead of being themed02:25
fraser_thoreauputic, how often do they release a new version? correct me if i am istaken but there was warty warhog before this02:25
onkarshindeahmetalsan: What do you mean by exiting? Logout or just kill X?02:25
thoreauputicfraser_: possible, don't know02:25
ahmetalsankiiling x02:25
deFryskinit 202:25
ahmetalsani will intall video driver02:25
thoreauputicfraser_: every 6 months02:25
GNU-GPLor init 302:25
delltonyhaha i love being the boss here today is gonna be fix my computer day :)02:26
leopoldi need help :(02:26
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bimberileopold: ah, ok, well a "dpkg -L lilo" will list the files that were installed02:26
thoreauputicahmetalsan: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop02:26
ahmetalsanok thx i tring02:26
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fraser_thoreauputic, really? i wish MS were that efficient. XP came out in (i think) 02. thats three years since the last, and the nest thing they are releasing is service pack 3 i hear. but that info is fairly unreliable02:26
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onkarshindefraser_: You are right, there was warty in last October, then hoary in this April and now Breezy in this October02:27
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fraser_leopold: tell everyone what the problem is02:27
thoreauputicfraser_: MS are interested in lockin, not innovation02:27
fraser_onkarshinde, how long has ubuntu been around?02:27
aftertaffraser_:  you'll have vista too.... which will be DRM hell and eye bloat candy02:27
onkarshindefraser_: As far as I now warty was the first release.02:27
thoreauputicfraser_: last October ( warty)02:27
aftertaffraser_:  since warty... and before that there was debian02:27
GNU-GPLfraser_, october 2004 first official release right/02:28
GNU-GPL?02:28
deFrysk04.1002:28
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deFryskoct 200402:28
onkarshindefraser_: Id you don't know this, 5.10 corresponds to 10 (October) 200502:28
GNU-GPLi take that as a yes02:28
GNU-GPL;)02:28
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fraser_GNU-GPL, yeah02:28
fraser_GNU-GPL, haha sorry02:28
fraser_GNU-GPL, im slow today02:28
leopoldok: all i want is to make a bootloader (dont care if its lilo or grip) that gives me the possibility to choose between my main harddisk with OS Ubuntu and my second harddisc (prim slave) OS WinXP02:28
leopold*grup02:29
GNU-GPLhehe02:29
aftertafleopold:  grub lets you...02:29
aftertafboth do, bu grub is installed by default.02:29
thoreauputicleopold: ah - windows doesn't like being on a slave hdd02:29
leopoldhow can i configure grup02:29
aftertafyou need to know which hd & partition your windows is on, then add it to grub config file02:29
leopoldshould i make the win harddisk master?02:29
thoreauputicleopold: you have to remap to fool brain dead windows02:29
Whistleri try to run armyops and i get Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual any ideas?02:30
onkarshindeleopold: For that you will need to know exact partition numbers on which you have installed both os. Then you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.02:30
aftertafthoreauputic:  when you change grub it does it itself, right?02:30
thoreauputicleopold: or swap your hard drive positions02:30
leopoldi think win is /dev/hdb202:30
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GranMaestroI folks, just a general question to everybody reading. Is anybody here knowleadgeable about FireWire on Ubuntu-PPC and can be contacted?02:30
fraser_thoreauputic, you know, i probably spent about thirty hours all up trying to work out why i couldnt dual boot ubuntu on a primary master and XP on a primary slave. then i found out you can't do that02:30
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thoreauputicfraser_: right02:30
fraser_thoreauputic, and i couldnt get to either, grub didnt work becasue it couldnt initialise XP, so i could only use LIVE02:30
thoreauputicfraser_: windows likes to pretend that only it exists02:31
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onkarshindeGranMaestro: Can you tell what is problem? Is it related to FireWire only or Ubuntu also?02:31
fraser_thoreauputic, what can you do? Billy boy will do what will get him money02:31
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thoreauputicit's a purely windows problem02:31
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rcdarkangelwindows will always exist in some shape or form02:31
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GranMaestroonkarshinde: I am tryng to get a bootable Ubutnu-PPC install on an external FW drive02:31
GranMaestroonkarshinde: It's a known issue02:32
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thoreauputicrcdarkangel: that's not what I was saying though :)02:32
rcdarkangelyes i do gather your point02:32
fraser_hopefully by the time i am thirty, windows will be abolished. as far as i can tell, the amount of windows users has actually dropped a bit02:32
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fraser_compared to otehr os's02:32
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thoreauputicrcdarkangel: ;)02:32
aftertaffraser_:  hmmm  i am 30 ;)02:32
fraser_but i mgiht be wrong02:32
GranMaestroonkarshinde: nobody in the forums seems to have a consistent solution to it02:32
fraser_aftertaf: :) didn't mean to insult your age. im only 15 :)02:33
aftertafhehe :)02:33
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leopoldwhat do i have to write in the menu.list for windows being on /dev/hdb202:33
fraser_hahah02:33
bimberifraser_: hmmm i was once 30 ;)02:33
onkarshindefraser_: I will need to install windows again on my Ubuntu only PC just because my GF works on .NET02:33
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aftertafleopold:  in the menu list you 'll dee some stuff about windows... found it?02:33
GranMaestroonkarshinde: you lost me on this one, did you?02:33
fraser_onkarshinde, hahaha, women!02:33
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delltonyhmm anyone wanna take a tackle at why my laptop hangs at checking battery state?02:34
delltonyis there a way to bypass this? is the x.org messed up not sure where to go at this point02:34
fraser_bimberi,  reminiscing the good old days, eh? meh, childhood's over rated. parental control is a damper on my life02:34
leopoldthere stands nothing about windows02:34
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aftertafleopold:  around line 35, #examples02:34
bimberifraser_: :)02:34
onkarshindeGranMaestro: Yes. Sorry but I thoght it was some general question. I don't have tha much knowledge about FireWire or PPC.02:34
pawdrocan anyone tell me repository where I can find the latest eclipse?02:34
thoreauputicleopold: it won't work02:34
fraser_delltony: there is a way to bypass it. try webmin, can aslo be done with "update-rc.d" but i think webmin is easier02:34
leopoldok found it02:34
GNU-GPL.02:34
aftertafreally thoreauputic ??? merde02:35
leopoldwhy wont it work?02:35
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GranMaestroonkarshinde: well, somebody has gotta know how. Just wonder how to find him :-D02:35
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aftertafwont it chainload?02:35
fraser_delltony: you can get webmin through "sudo apt-get install webmin" i think02:35
wickedpuppydoes anyone know when i boot from my usb harddisk i get error saying cannot find /dev/sda1 ?02:35
thoreauputicleopold: windows needs to be on the first partition or you need to do ome gymnastics with the grub menu list to fool it02:35
delltonyok but what should i do at that point sorry never used webmin02:35
jroeshm. anyone know why I can't apt-get install mttcorefonts?  it tells me that it's not available, but is referred to by another package02:35
leopoldwindows is on a adifferent harddisk02:35
HoxzerERROR: $Bitmap file size doesn't match calculated size (3663056 != 3663072)02:35
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Hoxzer:E02:36
thoreauputicwin likes to be primary, and first02:36
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fraser_wickedpuppy: is it bootable :)02:36
rcdarkangelexcuse me but its time for a really stupid question02:36
Hoxzerntfs resize02:36
wickedpuppyfraser_, it is02:36
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reiki_workok I'm back... no dog here at worrk (please hold the applause)02:36
rcdarkangelhow do i exit emacs again?02:36
onkarshindeGranMaestro: That might be Josh Aas, who is Firefox developer for Mac. But don't know where to find him.02:36
wickedpuppyi got into grub02:36
fraser_rcdarkangel, no stupid question,s noly stupid people :). kidding02:36
rcdarkangellol02:36
wickedpuppyrcdarkangel, c-x c-c02:36
Nacked31hi all, do someone see this http://naked.homeip.net ?02:36
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fraser_Nacked31, what is that?02:36
aftertafNacked31:  you not serious??02:37
Nacked31yes i am.02:37
GranMaestroonkarshinde: well, thanks for that, better than nothing :-D02:37
thoreauputicjroes: you need the multiverse repo02:37
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fraser_wickedpuppy: i am notoriously bad at setting up boot sequences and such. i am a GUI man! :)02:37
Nacked31i m test my server02:37
leopoldthis cant be so god dam hard02:37
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Hoxzerhmm.... prooobleeem :E02:37
thoreauputic!tell jroes about repositories02:37
jroesI've got multiverse.02:37
falbalae_naked: nope02:37
Somada141is there a list or sth with the packages that are available on the ubutnu CD?02:37
fraser_Nacked31, better not be unsafe, im checking it for you02:37
jroesI think it's because I'm amd64 -- ?02:37
delltonydang it anyone wanna help pm me i'm open for ideas02:37
aftertafleopold:  hmmm worked by just changing grub conf for me, but i think win is on hda ...02:37
Hoxzerif I mount it it will regonsize the storage size02:37
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Hoxzerif I dont it will show its empty02:38
thoreauputicjroes: ah02:38
jroesbesides, if I didn't have multiverse, it would just complain that it's not there...02:38
thoreauputicjroes: dunno - you may be right02:38
aftertafNacked31:  network timeout02:38
falbalae_nacked31: doesn't work for me.02:38
thoreauputicjroes: not necessarily02:38
rcdarkangelcool red dwarf is on  this day just keeps getting better02:38
fraser_Nacked31, it just seems to be taking far too long for a site that is working. keep trying :)02:38
onkarshindeHoxzer: That's how it works. Any problem wioth that?02:38
thoreauputicjroes: if you are missing repos, that error can pop up02:38
jroesI have deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted02:39
Nacked31i have adsl but a very large one.02:39
onkarshindeNacked31: Doesn't load anything02:39
leopoldis there anyone with some time about 10min who can tell me step by step what to do to configure grup correctly and make it boot win+ubuntu02:39
thoreauputicjroes: whether msttcorefonts is available for amd64 I don't know02:39
HoxzerOnkar: yeah, dont really want to lose data02:39
Nacked31i have adsl but NOT  a very large one.02:39
HoxzerI want to make it Fat32 in two parts02:39
onkarshindeleopold: I can.02:39
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fraser_nacked31: no way it is working if it took that long. even on dial-up i would expect slightly better results02:39
aftertafleopold:  i put the right hd(,) partition, uncommented the lot, and saved02:39
Hoxzerfirst I make it 50% 50% fat and ntsf02:39
Hoxzerthen I copy ntsf to fat02:39
Hoxzerand then I resize fat to 100%02:40
Nacked31perhaps firewall i will check02:40
jroeshm, there seem to be a lot of little bumps in the road to get things working on amd64, is there any way that I can help out with the process of getting all of this stuff working?02:40
Nacked31Thanks for your help02:40
falbalae_Nacked31: keep trying!02:40
jroes(as in, contribute CPU time to the community, a small amount of development...)02:40
fraser_Nacked31, no problem02:40
aftertafNacked31:  hehe open door n80 ;)02:40
thoreauputicjroes: bug reports i guess - or visit #ubuntu-motu and see if you can help with packaging02:40
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Nacked31normaly it open02:40
Nacked31brb02:40
reiki_workI think when Breezy is released, I'll save off whatever I need from Hoary and do a fresh install. Wipe out some of my mistakes with Hoary :)02:41
falbalae_Nacked: do you have a router?02:41
jroesI was thinking by now someone had an entire mailing list and forums and maybe even channel dedicated to smoothing out amd6402:41
fraser_reiki_work, amen to that02:41
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thoreauputicjroes: the MOTU would welcome any help they can get I think02:41
onkarshindeleopold: I am here to help you02:41
fraser_thoreauputic, what are the MOTU?02:41
thoreauputic!motu02:42
ubotumotu are the Masters of the Universe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)02:42
falbalae_Is it better for new ubunti to wait the next version?02:42
leopoldis onkarshide a bot?02:42
reiki_worklike He-Man?02:42
thoreauputicfraser_: responsible for community-supported packages02:42
Somada141which extension we are looking for when we want executables for Linux?02:42
jroesthanks thoreauputic02:42
thoreauputicno worries02:42
thoreauputic:)02:42
onkarshindeleopold: No I am not02:42
fraser_leopold, you should consider that if it is not working that it is a hardware setup problem, have you tried rearranging the master-slave issues?02:42
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fraser_thoreauputic, ok02:43
bimberihm, msttcorefonts is installable on all architectures02:43
thoreauputicSomada141: *nix doesn't care about suffixes02:43
onkarshindeSomada141: What do you mean exactly?02:43
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pl_ice any ones uses nokia or other ph with ubuntu? :>02:43
thoreauputiconkarshinde: he means loke .exe02:43
thoreauputic*like02:43
Somada141i want to download Nedit but under linux it has 3 different files02:43
onkarshindeGot it02:43
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Somada141same thing with different extensions02:43
thoreauputicSomada141: it's in the repos02:43
Hoxzer"then administer that environment without having to become a fully-fledged Linux geek."02:43
Nacked31http://195.186.216.19602:43
thoreauputic!info nedit02:43
Hoxzerlike it was a bad thing :E02:43
ubotunedit: (A powerful, customizable, Motif based text editor), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1:5.4-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 632 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB02:43
h4x0r2damh4x0r!avi02:44
thoreauputicSomada141: ^^^02:44
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, h4x0r2damh4x0r02:44
falbalae_Naked: working02:44
h4x0r2damh4x0r!mp302:44
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support02:44
Nacked31ok02:44
h4x0r2damh4x0r!media02:44
ubotuh4x0r2damh4x0r: Wish i knew02:44
h4x0r2damh4x0r!avi02:44
Nacked31i think its me ddclient config.02:44
thoreauputicSomada141: don't just download random files - use the package manager02:44
h4x0r2damh4x0rhow do i play AVI files?02:45
Nacked31thx02:45
m0rphxsomeone running breezy and using alexandria? It won't start: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gettext/locale_default.rb:12:in `require': no such file to load -- gettext/_locale (LoadError)02:45
h4x0r2damh4x0ri can't play mp3 files either on XMMS02:45
Somada141i don't have a connection back home where i installed ubuntu02:45
onkarshindeubotu: avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:45
ubotuonkarshinde: okay02:45
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h4x0r2damh4x0rhow do ic close Xserver and install Nvidia Drivers02:45
Nacked31For mp3 there is a special package02:45
bur[n] er!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about nvidia02:45
onkarshindeh4x0r2damh4x0r: Didn't you hear what the bot said? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:45
h4x0r2damh4x0rpackage name please?02:45
bur[n] er!tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about mp302:45
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leopoldok: all i want is to make a bootloader (dont care if its lilo or grip) that gives me the possibility to choose between my main harddisk with OS Ubuntu and my second harddisc (prim slave) OS WinXP...someone who can help me in private talk?02:46
Nacked31synaptic / search for xmms02:46
onkarshindeh4x0r2damh4x0r: For mp3 you need gstremer-mad02:46
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thoreauputicSomada141: there is a .deb for nedit - you might be able to install that if the dependencies are OK02:46
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reiki_workI just set up to rip CD to mp3 last night... follwed the directions... and it worked! :)  imagine that......02:46
Somada141ok02:46
h4x0r2damh4x0rplay on XMMS?02:46
thoreauputicSomada141: packages.ubuntu.com02:46
bur[n] eronkarshinde: you can tell people about that stuff using ubotu ;)02:46
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bur[n] erh4x0r2damh4x0r: read your msgs!!!02:46
onkarshindebur[n] er: He didn't read ubotu's responses at all.02:47
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Somada141Dumb Question : how can i make that grub boot loader make the WinXP partition the default one?02:47
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thoreauputicSomada141: to see dependencies, run  apt-cache depends nedit02:47
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bur[n] eronkarshinde: i know ;)  his fault ;)  ubotu pointing to the wiki is better than explaining it in irc though02:47
bur[n] ers/his/his or her02:47
thoreauputicSomada141: change the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:47
Somada141do i have to be root for that?02:48
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bur[n] erSomada141: even better... use the "boot" system tool if you have it02:48
reiki_workSomada141: you can sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:48
onkarshindeSomada141: Yes you will need to be root for changing GRUB configuration02:48
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thoreauputicSomada141: use e.g. sudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:48
ahmetalsanthnx for exiting x server02:48
bur[n] erreiki_work: no Somada141 can't... gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:48
ahmetalsanbut nvidia installer gives a error02:49
Somada141gksudo?02:49
bur[n] era plain old sudo won't prompt for password unless run from terminal02:49
bur[n] ergksudo gives a gui prompt for password02:49
ahmetalsanit say ur linux need kernel source02:49
ratahi. I am new in ubuntu. Which repositories should i add to install the fast track plug in for gift ? (does apt-get.org packages work?)02:49
thoreauputicSomada141: gksudo is better, yes02:49
reiki_workahhh... ok... I've used sudo gedit and got no errors, but gksudo may be safer02:49
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Somada141ok thanks02:49
bur[n] er!tell rata about repositories02:49
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ratabur[n] er, thanks :)02:50
Nacked31falbalea_: cant send you private mesage02:50
delltonyis there not a way when running an install from the cd to skip the partion partion i tried going to install base but it still wants to partion i already have my drive partitioned and all with reiserfs and swap with data on it02:50
thoreauputicbur[n] er: running sudo gedit from a terminal works OK BTW02:50
delltonybasically im wondering is if i can install without wiping the partition02:50
reiki_workyeah thats how I was starting it02:50
bur[n] erthoreauputic: from term yes... not via "alt+f2" or from gui02:50
Somada141what's the difference between sudo and gksudo?02:50
ahmetalsanthore nvidia installer gives error like kernel source couldnt find02:51
bur[n] erSomada141: gksudo is gui, sudo is not02:51
onkarshindeSomada141: One is commandline and other GUI02:51
falbalae_Nacked31: oh... okay.02:51
thoreauputicbur[n] er: erm - how would you run it from alt-F2? Is there a non-X gedit i don't know about?02:51
falbalae_Nacked31: should we go to the chat channel?02:51
Somada141so if i do gksudo while i am connected as a regular user i'll be able to alter the folders i could only when conencting as root?02:51
thoreauputicbur[n] er: ah sorry - you mean the run app thing02:51
thoreauputicbur[n] er: got it02:52
rcdarkangelCould i please ask a question?02:52
Somada141cool02:52
bur[n] errcdarkangel: you just did02:52
thoreauputicSomada141: yes, but be careful02:52
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rcdarkangelooops02:52
thoreauputicSomada141: it's dangerous running as root, as you probably know02:52
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reiki_workI'm at work and can't check this... when choosing an app from the menu, is there a right-click option to run as root? like... it would start with gksudo?02:53
onkarshindeGoodbye all good guys. I will return sometime tomorrow.02:53
ahmetalsanpls help i wrote my problem 2 more02:53
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Somada141yap but when i want to install packages i have to throw them in /usr/local/bin as root02:53
rcdarkangeli have a user set up on apache on our webhosting server. This user is me. I need to change it so that the new domain i registered knows where my website is. Did i explain that right?02:53
bur[n] erdelltony: you can... but you have to tell the installer where the / is02:53
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Nacked31http://naked.homelinux.net my mistake02:53
jroesis there a way to tell whether an app uses gtk1 or the latest gtk?02:53
bur[n] errcdarkangel: you host it yourself?02:54
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falbalae_Works.02:54
rcdarkangelyes02:54
thoreauputicahmetalsan: are you using the nvidia installer from their website? Don't02:54
deFryskjroes, gtk1 is ugly and does not adjust to the theme settings02:54
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bur[n] errcdarkangel: you have to tell your nameservers where your host is02:54
rcdarkangeli run the servers for our company02:54
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thoreauputic!tell ahmetalsan about nvidia02:54
bur[n] erjroes: what app?  might be better to just ask :)02:54
Nacked31i have to rember the good name. Yes i host it home02:54
delltonyanyone?02:54
falbalae_nacked31: works. What about graphical support?!? :D02:54
bur[n] errcdarkangel: you run dns servers?02:55
rcdarkangelyes02:55
jroesdeFrysk: right, so then that's why Audacity and Glade look like crap?02:55
bur[n] errcdarkangel: tell your registrar where your nameservers are02:55
rcdarkangelit knows02:55
Nacked31What is graphical support ?02:55
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rcdarkangeli did not explain it right i dont think02:55
deFryskjroes, guess so02:55
bur[n] erheh02:55
jroesdeFrysk: these both don't have a normal gnome theme interface to theme.  but when I look at screenshots on each one's site, they look like they are themed properly...02:55
sjmorganwhat's happened to the mplayer packages?02:55
falbalae_Nacked31: nothing. Just for fun...!02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHEY FUCK YOU02:55
rcdarkangelhere is my usual process once  customer gets a domain02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rBITCH02:55
Somada141is .bash_profile where i can declare aliases a hidden file?02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:55
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:55
twibblerrcdarkangel: are you after using a subdomain ?...02:56
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
rcdarkangelroot@lysander: adduser02:56
bur[n] erSomada141: .bashrc02:56
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
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h4x0r2damh4x0rHOW TO TERMINATE X-SERVER02:56
rcdarkangelbut i am already a user02:56
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bur[n] ersomeone ban02:56
bur[n] erthank you :)02:56
rcdarkangeli need to get rid of the sub domain im using and make it use this new one02:56
Nacked31registering, brb02:56
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Somada141both bashrc and bash_profile didn't show up with the ls02:56
bur[n] ersorry02:56
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bur[n] erSomada141: you have to create it... and it's a hidden file... ls -a02:57
rcdarkangelthats alright i have probaly confused you i will keep googlin lol02:57
Somada141ok02:57
bur[n] errcdarkangel: good luck :)02:57
ahmetalsanthore02:57
ahmetalsanyes02:57
falbalae_I was wondering: what should I do when I crash my system? Is there something like ctrl-alt-del? Please don't tell me that linux doesn't hang...02:57
Somada141kill02:57
twibblerrcdarkangel .... me thinks you need to change the named file ... which allows you to use a domain like www.ifitis.com and a subdomain like me.ifitis.com02:57
deFryskkillall02:57
ahmetalsani m using nvidia driver on its web site02:57
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falbalae_Should I write it in the console or what?02:58
bur[n] erfalbalae_: if it's just X that hangs... ctrl+alt+backspace... otherwise hold the power button for 5 seconds + :)02:58
Somada141yap02:58
thoreauputicahmetalsan: read the url ubotu sent you02:58
arpuhi @all i have installed toda breezy prewiev all works fine but what is the entry in the source list (apt) to get breezy-extrs working ? i need to install java  sun-j2sdk1.5_102:58
falbalae_burner: thanks.02:58
ahmetalsanok02:58
bur[n] erfalbalae_: kill & killall will stop one process, but not a full on restart02:58
RenskiTheres a preview of breezy out?02:58
thoreauputicRenski: yes02:59
bur[n] erRenski: no way? ;)02:59
deFrysk! java02:59
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:59
sjmorgandoes anybody know what happened to the mplayer packages?02:59
rcdarkangelall i need to do is change the current domain name to another one02:59
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Renski...02:59
rcdarkangelthe user is already setup on the server02:59
bur[n] errcdarkangel: change the hostname?02:59
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twibblerrcdarkangel: I see not really an issue ... need to edit a few files ....02:59
rcdarkangeli think so yes02:59
arpudeFrysk: Add the hoary-extras repository  but i use breezy02:59
BlueEaglercdarkangel: edit /etc/dnsdomainname to change the domain name.03:00
rcdarkangelyes but i am a noob03:00
bur[n] errcdarkangel: are you using active directory or something03:00
Somada141i got nedit-Linuxlx86.tzr.bz2 from the official site but how do i install it?03:00
Somada141like i do with the packages?03:00
thoreauputicSomada141: NO - I told you where to look03:00
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thoreauputicSomada141: pay attention please03:00
Somada141i did get the debs as well03:00
deFryskarpu, u can use java of backports safely in breezy03:00
bur[n] erSomada141: just use synaptic03:00
thoreauputicSomada141: packages.ubuntu.com03:00
aftertaf_lol bur[n] er ... AD03:00
Somada141 i don't have a connection back home03:01
deFryskarpu, at least it did on my box03:01
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thoreauputicSomada141: don't use the tar.bz2 or whatever03:01
thoreauputicSomada141: use the deb03:01
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bur[n] erSomada141: if you have the .deb... sudo dpkg -i blah.deb03:01
bur[n] er(from term)03:01
deFryskarpu, make sure to comment out the backport repo afer installeng java03:01
Somada141i got the debs from packages.ubuntu but there are a whole lot of dependacies and i don't know which are already installed and which do i nedd03:01
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RenskiIs it possible to install the breezy preview by apt?03:02
thoreauputicSomada141: dpkg -l | grep <packagename>03:02
Somada141are there any guides where i can learn all those commands?03:02
bur[n] erSomada141: that is where an internet connection comes in handy ;)  there's a command to show dependencies03:02
thoreauputicSomada141: if there's an installed deb it will show03:02
SeveasRenski, yes it is03:02
Somada141yap i know but i don't have the money for that right now03:02
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RenskiSeveas: how?03:02
deFryskRenski, switch hoary to breezy in sources.list and comment out backports stuff03:02
bur[n] erRenski: yes... but please know what you're doing first... if you're a novice, wait till breezy is final03:02
SeveasRenski: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade03:02
arpudeFrysk: thx what is the url for the backports ?03:03
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Seveas!backports03:03
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:03
delltonythoreauputic before i overwrite is there NO WAY to install breezy without formating the preexisting partition?03:03
deFryskarpu, should be in the url ubotu provided03:03
bur[n] erSeveas: you're a master sed hacker ;)03:03
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deFrysk! backports03:03
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:03
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thoreauputicdelltony: what?03:03
arpudeFrysk: thanks !03:03
delltonymy upgrade borked right03:03
bur[n] erSeveas: add that one line upgrade to ubotu?03:03
thoreauputicdelltony: did you try  sudo apt-get -f install?03:03
Misha130wtf my friend mircop banned Oo03:03
delltonyso i'm installing the thing from the cd03:04
bur[n] ermight be nice to do !upgrade and get that03:04
delltonyyeah its an issue with the x.org or something xserver is not starting03:04
JonfFirefox 1.5.0 beta1 Out!!03:04
deFryskarpu, I think java is in extras ?03:04
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SeveasJonf, big deal03:05
Seveasmore important: very ugly security bug found in firefox (ALL versions)03:05
bur[n] erheh, the new firefox is a bit faster in back/forward, but nothing special03:05
deFryskarpu this is the line you need : deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:05
thoreauputicOK time to go - have fun all!03:05
Seveas!upgrade03:05
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:05
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bur[n] ernice Seveas :)03:05
Seveasubotu, has the old !upgrade as long as breezy isn't final03:05
ubotuSeveas: Are you smoking crack?03:05
RenskiJonf: any intresting changes?03:05
deFryskSeveas, how geeky03:05
duffmanwant to write my second harddisk in Grub...its located in /dev/hdb2...what do i have to write in Grub? title Windows03:05
duffmanrootnoverify (hd2,2)03:05
duffmanchainloader +1  ?!?!?!?!03:05
Seveasubotu, no, just regular pot :p03:06
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five?03:06
Jonfyeah, lots03:06
Seveasubotu, yes03:06
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?03:06
deFrysklol03:06
bur[n] erlol03:06
Jonfhttp://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.5beta1.html03:06
BlueEagleDoes anyone know if it's possoble to put nfs shares in Places-Network Servers?03:06
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deFryskubotu, no03:07
ubotudeFrysk: Not a clue03:07
deFryskexactly03:07
hadi57hi all, how to install opera on ubuntu?03:07
Seveas!no is <reply> Ahhh, too bad...03:07
ubotuSeveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:07
bur[n] erhadi57: hoary?03:07
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deFryskhadi57, there is a .deb available on the opera site , make sure to get the static03:07
hadi57sorry no experience with linux, still new!03:07
RenskiJonf: like what? it looks exactly the same at first glance.03:07
Somada141isn't there a decent printable guide to shell commands in order to learn how to use the terminal decently?03:07
bur[n] erhadi57: if it's hoary... listen to deFrysk03:08
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bur[n] erif it's breezy... you gotta compile from source (i hope you're using hoary if you're new ;)03:08
deFryskbur[n] er, it does not take on breezy ?03:08
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JonfI didnt install it yet, It just came out...03:09
delltonyso i guess there answer to my question is no you can't install from the cd without wiping a partition03:09
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bur[n] erdeFrysk: not for me03:09
bur[n] erdeFrysk: i was all excited with my free reg code... but it wouldn't install :\03:10
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deFryskbur[n] er, I had it up n running on breezy03:10
bur[n] eropera == fast fast fast03:10
deFryskwierd03:10
Jonfbut they say there are a lot of new changes, thats why they didnt name it 1.1 or 1,2...03:10
deFryskopera is not my cuppa03:10
aftertaf!tell somada about cli03:10
bur[n] eri still prefer firefox and its extentions03:10
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Seveasopera = crap crap crap, the thing does not even display the ubuntu website properly03:11
RenskiIm just looking at the release notes, a few small features really.03:11
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BlueEagleseveas: That tells you a bit more about the code that make up the ubuntu website doesn't it? :p03:11
deFryskSeveas, or does that make the ubuntu website crap ???03:11
aftertafa candidate for perm ban if ever there was one...03:11
SeveasBlueEagle, not at all03:11
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aftertafSeveas:  sorry thinking out loud (haxor)03:13
aftertafmister leet speak !!03:13
Seveashehe03:13
aftertaf;)$03:13
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deFrysklol aftertaf03:14
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aftertafok.. so is there a way to setup a router that will not be visible to the corporate LAN?03:18
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aftertafdo i just block icmp redirect from the router?03:19
thomerzhi, sry its not an ubuntu question, but how do i change my nickserv password?03:19
B|ueMatHey all, Ive been prompted for the followuing: "In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have the03:19
B|ueMatkernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running." Where can I find these?03:19
Lunar_Lampthomerz - /nickserv help - that will give you some info, but i think you want "link" - then you can link another nickname to the registered one03:20
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JonfWhen I try to run Steam with Wine, tells me that I need an Active X browser object. How can I download it and install it?03:20
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B|ueMatWhere do i find the kernel headers for the version of the kernel Im running?03:20
DewDudeis it possible to upgrade from a CD or do you have to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for the 5.10 breezy preview03:20
Lunar_Lampthomerz - wait - ignore me there - misread what you asked for!03:21
thomerzLunar_Lamp, i've already read this info, but i want to change my password for my nick i have at the moment03:21
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deFrysk!upgrade03:21
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:21
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harlokhola?03:21
DewDudeugh03:21
DewDudei tried that03:21
DewDudei don't have the disk space03:21
harlokalguienk hable castellano?03:21
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Jonfyo03:21
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Lunar_Lampthomerz: you need /msg nickserv set password03:22
B|ueMatAnyone help me out, i ran synaptic and there are a few kernel headers??03:22
thomerzah thx03:22
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harlokjonf tu sabes como se configure ua red wifi? es k no hay manera la cableada si conecta la wifi no se configurarla03:22
deFryskharlok, sure03:22
BlueEagleb|uemat: Choose the one that coresponds to the kernel you are using.03:22
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BlueEagleb|uemat: and 2.6.11 is rumoured to be broken so stick with 2.6.10 unless you're rolling your own.03:23
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BlueEagleb|uemat: if you don't know which kernel you are using type uname -a on the command line03:23
DewDudebah03:24
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DewDudehow much disk space do i need to upgrade?03:24
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bur[n] erDewDude: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... you'll see how much it downloads and how much is used after install03:24
HiddenWolfDewDude, 700mb or more03:24
deFryskDewDude, try apt-get clean03:24
DewDudedoh03:25
deFryskand then try03:25
DewDudecyz see, i tried that last night03:25
DewDudei changed my repositories to breezy03:25
DewDudeand tried that, and it said i'm out of space03:25
harlokjonf y la clave wep?03:25
deFryskDewDude, upgrade parts apt get clean and on to the next part03:25
samu2how are you supposed to deal with all the duplicate programs and stuff if you install a second or a third window manager on your system? just manually edit the menus or can you choose not to display gnome apps in kde and vice versa or something?03:25
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germanhi!!!03:26
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OCA|I'm trying to install Ubuntu on free space (~30 gigs) on an external USB 2 drive. There is an existing partition table on that disk consisting of two NTFS partitions (the 30 gigs of free space are between them). When running the 5.0.4 installer, it shows all partitions on the internal drive of this machine (/dev/hda1), but shows no partitions under the external USB drive (/dev/sda). Does this mean there's a problem with the existing t03:26
OCA|able on /dev/sda?03:26
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harlokel mio si, k lo pongo en hexadecimal en ese cuadro03:26
harlokentre comillas o algo?03:26
deFryskharlok, agree03:26
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bur[n] erOCA|: I'm guessing the installer just doesn't see USB drives as installable media03:27
DewDudethat one line upgrade doesn't seem to do breezy03:27
DewDudeor does it?03:27
OCA|bur[n] er: It allows me to select sda, and offers to write an entirely new partition table...03:27
harlokvoy a desconectar el eth0 y pruebo el wifi a ver03:27
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harlokgracias!03:28
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bur[n] erOCA|: in that case... i'm guessing it can't read the partition table03:28
Valentina_16agei am a prostitute03:28
bur[n] erOCA|: try booting a livecd and using qtparted?03:28
deFryskDewDude, if you lack space upgrade in bits to breezy03:28
OCA|bur[n] er: I'll do that now, thanks.03:28
deFryskfirst x , then gnome , then kernel etc03:28
bur[n] erno guarantees ;)03:28
OCA|bur[n] er: There are no guarantees in life =)03:29
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deFryskDewDude, and to apt-get clean after every bit03:29
DewDudealso, wouldn't: sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list03:29
Valentina_16ageI suck it free03:29
bimberi!ops03:29
ubotuI heard ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth03:29
DewDudework better for breezy, rather than what you posted03:29
DewDudeor, rather, the bot posted03:29
Valentina_16agerm -rf/03:29
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deFryskthat line does the sources.list03:30
bur[n] er:)03:30
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bimberitks Seveas03:30
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DewDudeyeah....i basically need to change hoary to breezy, right?03:30
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deFryskDewDude, yup03:30
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DewDudethe line you posted to me earlier was wrong for that process03:30
deFryskDewDude, then just do it manually03:31
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DewDudeheh, no, i figured out how to do it with one line03:31
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deFryskDewDude, also comment out the backports03:31
DewDudei was just saying, you might want to update it03:31
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Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38603:32
DewDudebackports?03:32
DewDudeyou mean hoary stuff?03:32
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deFryskDewDude, if you have them03:32
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Bad_Magicudpate just bugged me about it03:32
Bad_Magichoary irl03:32
deFryskDewDude, hoary backports stuff03:32
DewDudei'm basically replacing hoary with breezy03:33
DewDudei've got backups of the sources.list03:33
deFryskDewDude, all backports stuff even03:33
nitrocksanyone have experience with configuring a tv tuner card to work?03:33
deFryskDewDude, just start with the big ones like O03:34
deFrysko03:34
JonfWhere I can download DirectX for linux?03:34
deFryskJonf, what ?03:34
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abarbaccianitrocks, yes03:34
DewDudeJonf: you don't.03:34
abarbaccianitrocks, what card is it?03:34
JonfdeFrysk, Im trying to run Guild Wars with wine03:34
DewDudeJonf: probably not gonna happen03:35
JonfdeFrysk and is asking my to download Direct X....03:35
BlueEaglejonf: best hope would be winex or cedega.03:35
Bad_Magicgood luck03:35
Bad_Magic=P03:35
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deFryskJonf, u have to ask in #wine03:35
DewDudeDeFrysk: ok, so i was on the right path, i just need to clear some HDD space to do a full upgrade03:35
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JonfBlueEagle is it free?03:35
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DewDudeumm03:36
deFryskDewDude, yes but if you are low on space first do some parts like Oo and after apt-get clean and then continue03:36
DewDudewell a) i don't know how to do parts03:36
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BlueEaglejonf: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=337003:36
DewDudeb) i'm leaving soon and want to do a full upgrade in one swipe so that when i get home, hopefully, it'll be done03:36
fsmw_is there a problem with some repositories?03:36
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DewDudeif i do it in parts it'll be saturday night before i get a chance to finish it03:37
deFryskno wont take that long03:37
rcdarkangelok im back03:37
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deFryskhow much space do you have ?03:37
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rcdarkangelhad to run down to work to grab the lap top ac03:37
DewDudedeFrysk, it's gotta download 600 some megs of updates...that alone is going to consume about three hours03:38
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DewDudecuz of my crappy connection03:38
deFryskDewDude, first do an apt-get upgrade , without the dist-upgrade03:38
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deFryskit should do a fair chunk but not all03:38
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DewDudeok03:39
DewDudewell03:39
E_IIIgood afternoon03:39
deFryskand after its done apt-get dist-upgrade make sure to apt-get clean inbetween03:39
deFryskand when done also apt-get clean03:39
OCA|bur[n] er: Running parted, when I try to list partitions or do a partition check, I get "No implimentation:Partition 3 isn't aligned to cylinder boundries...". Fdisk sees the partition structure of the drive fine, so does windows. Furthermore, the live distro automatically mounted both of the partitions read only and linked it to the desktop.03:39
DewDudeok03:39
deFryskDewDude, good luck03:40
DewDudehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/204203:40
DewDudewhat about those errors?03:40
E_IIIcould someone point me to a beginner's guide for dumbass place ? i have just installed ubuntu & need to learn03:40
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DewDudei got those trying to use the one line upgrade03:40
yuachtE_III, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuHowCome03:40
E_IIIThank you very much03:40
Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38603:40
deFryskDewDude, you have to comment out the first line in sources.list, it referst to your cdrom03:40
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DewDudeok03:41
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deFryskthen again apt-get update03:41
DewDudei already started apt-get update03:41
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deFryskDewDude, after commenting it out update again to refresh the sources03:42
bur[n] erOCA|: can your re-write the partition table without making changes via linux fdisk?03:42
DewDudeok03:42
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pinucsetHi, one little question please. I've 5.1 headsets and with ubuntu I only hear 2 speakers... Please help!03:42
DewDudethen apt-get clean, apt-get upgrade, apt-get clean, apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get clean and i should be upgraded to breezy?03:42
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imnesWhen I install telnetd-ssl on breezy colony 4 the service isn't added to /etc/inetd.conf, anybody know how to manually configure it?03:43
deFryskDewDude, should work03:43
pinucsetis breezy uploadead???03:43
deFryskand i hope you have enough space then03:43
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pinucset(stable)03:43
deFryskpinucset, nope03:43
deFryskpreview03:43
pinucsetwhen will stable be released? :D03:43
deFrysk05.1003:44
DewDudei love running unstabe test software03:44
OCA|bur[n] er: Hmm... it's failing with device or resource busy, and immediately the two mount points I unmounted before running fdisk re-appear on the desktop and the windows for them open.03:44
DewDudedeFrysk, thanks for the help. I'm trying to learn ubuntu03:44
DewDudei'm not use to apt-get03:44
DewDudelast time i ran it, i don't believe that was around03:44
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deFryskDewDude, get a larger hd ;)03:45
DewDudei mean, linux in general03:45
pinucsetHi, one little question please. I've 5.1 headsets and with ubuntu I only hear 2 speakers... Please help!03:45
DewDudedeFrysk, yeah, i know03:45
DewDudei don't have any extras lying around03:45
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deFryskDewDude, ubuntu is one of the best distros around I think03:45
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imnespincuset what kind of sound card?03:45
DewDudeand i don't want to invest too much into this system, as its not much of a system03:45
pinucsetNforce integrated03:45
pinucset:D03:45
DewDude400mhz PPC G303:45
paulproteusDewDude: It's been in Debian since 1997 or something, so clearly when you ran Linux before, you picked the wrong distro. ;)03:45
imnesI dunno I've got a audigy 2 and my 5.1 is working.03:46
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imnesHave you gone into alsamixer you may find some switches / volume controls in there useful.03:46
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DewDudeperhaps03:46
DewDudei may have never used it03:46
pinucsetimnes, whats dunno?03:46
DewDudei tried to learn on my own without any help, and that's been my mistake03:46
deFryskDewDude, also do apt-get update after the first upgrade because new packages come in all the time in breezy03:47
michaelfubuntu on powerpc works nice03:47
OCA|Seems like the moment fdisk calls ioctl, ubuntu is remounting those partitions. Any way for me to prevent that?03:47
DewDudedunno = don't know03:47
imnessorry :)03:47
DewDudeok03:47
DewDudeso it's like, probably daily upgrades?03:47
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DewDudelet me ask you this..what's the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade03:48
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deFryskDewDude, a dist-upgrade also installs new packages if dependencies require this , an upgrade only upgrades existing packages03:50
DewDudeahhh03:50
twibblerrcdarkangel: nice to see you back di you resolve the domain name ?.03:50
DewDudeso hitting "mark all packages for upgrade" in synaptic is the same as running apt-get upgrade?03:50
deFryskDewDude, smart-upgrade is dist-upgrade03:51
DewDudeso i should run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade daily with breezy if i want to stay absolutely current?03:51
deFryskI think anyway03:51
DewDudeok03:51
deFryskDewDude, yes , but you will be notified in breezy with a warning03:51
DewDudeok03:51
deFryskit has a notifier03:51
DewDudeof new updates?03:52
deFryskyes03:52
DewDudenice03:52
deFryskbut once breezy is stable only updates for security reasons wil be added so not many updates then ;)03:52
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DewDudeok03:52
rob^you guys might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes#preview03:53
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deFryska stable breezy is a frozen breezy03:53
rob^err03:53
DewDudeahh03:53
rob^you guys might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:53
DewDudei mean, quite honestly, if i break this system, it's not a big deal03:53
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DewDudei've not got any data that i haven't backed up03:54
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deFryskDewDude, if you do as I say its unlikely to break03:54
DewDudeok03:54
DewDudeappreciate the help03:54
deFrysk</modisty-mode>03:55
DewDudehopefully it'll sink in and i'll remember03:55
aftertafbye all, have a good weekend;)03:55
yahalomhow do i execute a .bin file? sudo sh blah.bin?03:55
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DewDudei've been meaning to learn linux since i got ahold of debian 1.3.103:55
deFryskyahalom, sh or ./03:55
DewDudelike, years ago03:55
twibbleraftertaf: and you ....03:55
deFryskyahalom, sometimes you have to chmod +x the bin file03:56
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yahalomde03:56
Somada141what's the difference between the 4 different package categories?03:56
deFryskDewDude, my first up and running distro was rh7.103:56
yahalomdeFrysk, that must be it cos it says cannot execute file03:57
deFryskyahalom, chmod +x03:57
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DewDudei've had up and running distros, i just never stuck with one03:57
DewDudei ran archlinux last year03:57
DewDudefor a whole two months03:57
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bur[n] erOCA|: ??03:57
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deFryskDewDude, got stuck to ubuntu with some slips to gentoo03:57
bur[n] ersorry03:57
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DewDudeoh, i tried gentoo on this beast03:58
yahalomdeFrysk, cannot execute binary file whats that all about?03:58
Jowihi all03:58
DewDudeit didn't seem to like my PPC hardware03:58
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deFryskyahalom, what .binfile is it ?03:58
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OCA|bur[n] er: Got fdisk to re-write the table, parted still doesnt' like it and the installer didn't see the partitions of sda again. Trying something totally off the wall, will let you know if it worked.03:58
DewDudethen a mac user told me to try ubuntu....i was able to get it running that night03:58
yahalomdeFrysk, hldsupdatetool.bin03:58
pinucsetis there some music player like this for KDE (Amorak i think) for Ubuntu/Gnome?03:58
deFryskyahalom, what is that ?03:59
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deFryskpinucset, rhythmbox03:59
bur[n] erOCA|: i really don't know... sorry03:59
rcdarkangelok i have set up my hosting and i get: Forbidden03:59
rcdarkangelYou don't have permission to access / on this server.03:59
yahalomdeFrysk, half-life 2 dedicated server for linux03:59
deFryskpinucset, its musicplayer in your menu03:59
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deFryskyahalom, sorry out of my league04:00
yahalomdeFrysk, thanx man04:00
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OCA|bur[n] er: Thanks anyway =) Do you know by chance if I tell it to erase /dev/sda if it'll give me the opportunity to manually partition afterwards?04:00
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Wedge^hello04:00
h17m4nhow do I force a make install?04:00
Wedge^is there a default root password when you install ubuntu?04:00
OCA|bur[n] er: 'cause I can backup the contents of that drive and put them back after an install if that's necissary.04:01
deFryskWedge^, ubuntu uses sudo04:01
deFrysk!sudo04:01
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:01
bur[n] erOCA|: you could try it... i'm not sure04:01
deFryskWedge^, so no root passwd04:01
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OCA|BTW, off the wall solution didn't work04:01
Wedge^ok04:01
Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38604:01
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Ali`Gis it possible to make a windows domain server on ubuntu?04:02
NgAli`G: yes, with samba304:03
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Ali`Gis it hard to setup04:03
imnestelnetd-ssl package seems broken do I file a bug with ubuntu bugzilla, or debians?04:03
bur[n] erAli`G: about as hard as it is on windows04:03
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NgAli`G: it's not easy I have to say, but samba.org has an excellent HOWTO and Examples04:03
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Ngbur[n] er: it's way harder than on windows!04:03
the_hunterhola ke tal amigos!!04:03
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Ali`GNg msg/pm04:04
__filip_what should i write in the /boot/grub/menu.lst if i whant to add win2k. win2k is in hda104:04
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NgAli`G: ?04:05
Ali`GNG: does that meen i can logon to any computer with the same username and it will work?04:05
Ali`Gand it will have my desktop04:05
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NgAli`G: any windows computer, yeah04:05
Ngalthough you can probably do it with linux clients too, I just never have04:06
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Ali`Gok04:06
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imnesheh, that's kinda rude, if you ask a question in #debian and mention you're using Ubuntu you get kicked :(04:06
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Ali`Gis it easier with windows nt or linux04:06
Ali`Gto setup a domain controller04:06
pinucsetsomebody knows when ubuntu stable will be released :D???04:07
deFrysk__filip_, something like :04:07
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rcdarkangelorbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.04:07
deFrysktitle=Windows04:08
deFryskrootnoverify (hd0,0)keactive04:08
deFryskchainloader +104:08
__filip_i have get help alrady in an pm04:08
__filip_thanx anyway04:08
deFrysk__filip_, those are the lines ;)04:08
__filip_must try it out now04:08
imnespincuset: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar04:08
deFryskalmost anyway I see now hehe04:08
imnes October 13th04:08
imnes04:08
imnes04:08
imnesBreezy: FinalRelease04:08
deFryskimnes, I take that on a full moon ?04:09
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imnesAt least it's not a friday.04:09
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giardanyone know offhand which wiki package wiki.ubuntu uses?04:11
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trygvebwHi04:11
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Sonny_Wertziki need read,WRITE,and execute permissions for everything in the operating system....perminiatly. How can i do this?04:12
anywIs there anyone who has participed at the google summer of code here ?04:12
rcdarkangeli need some help with this: You don't have permission04:13
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rcdarkangelYou don't have permission to access / on this server.04:13
deFryskSonny_Wertzik, use linspire04:13
Sonny_Wertzikwhats that?04:13
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trygvebwAnybody used ircd-hybrid?04:13
deFryskthats gives you what you want04:13
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trygvebwSonny_Wertzik: that's _terribly_ insecure.04:14
Sonny_Wertzikis it a command or a proggie?04:14
trygvebwSonny_Wertzik: it's a distro04:14
Sonny_Wertzikoh heh04:14
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deFryska bad one but hey its root by default04:14
Bad_Magicim sure you could just cd to root04:14
Bad_Magicand chmod down the tree04:14
trygvebwsudo -i04:14
Bad_Magic=x04:14
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imnesDid ubuntu hoary use scsi emulation for CDs?  I used to be able to acces my CDs through a program in wine but not under breezy, I get an aspi error04:15
Bad_Magicwhy you would want to04:15
Bad_Magicis beyond me04:15
Bad_Magic=x04:15
Sonny_Wertziksudo doesnt work...i need to take ownership04:15
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Bad_Magicsu04:15
Bad_Magicput in root password04:15
Bad_Magicvoila04:15
Bad_Magicfull access to everything04:15
trygvebwBad_Magic: not in ubuntu ;)04:15
deFryskimnes, scsi emulation is depriciated in 2.6x kernels04:15
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trygvebwSonny_Wertzik: log in as root then :)04:15
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Bad_Magicor that04:15
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Bad_Magicpardon me04:15
Bad_Magicsu root04:15
Bad_Magic=P04:15
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trygvebwor sudo -i04:15
Sonny_Wertziki try but i cant get in04:16
Bad_Magicits not your same password04:16
imnesWhy do you need read+write+exec on everything?04:16
Bad_Magicid assume its blank04:16
Sonny_Wertzikill try su   with pw of root04:16
Bad_Magicsince you didnt set it04:16
Sonny_Wertzik?04:16
trygvebwyes, that's because your root account isn't activated04:16
imnesSome things won't allow that anyway.04:16
deFryskSonny_Wertzik, username passwd is your sudo passwd04:16
trygvebwtype this in a console: "sudo passwd"04:16
Sonny_Wertzikok04:16
imnesOr just "sudo su" ?04:16
Sonny_Wertzik1 sec04:16
trygvebwimnes: not to activate the account04:16
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Bad_Magicwhy would you have to do sudo passwd04:17
Bad_Magicit should prompt04:17
Bad_Magicoh wait04:17
Bad_Magicnm04:17
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trygvebwhe wants to activate the root account04:17
trygvebwto su to it04:17
Bad_Magici get it04:17
deFrysk!crack04:17
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.04:17
trygvebwand log in to it ;)04:17
Bad_Magic=P04:17
trygvebw:)04:17
Somada141what's the difference between the 4 different package categories?04:17
trygvebwAnybody used ircd-hybrid?04:17
Sonny_Wertzikok done i entered a new pw04:17
Sonny_Wertzikhow do i log in04:17
Bad_Magicim using irssi for shell and xchat for xbased04:18
steve__?04:18
Bad_Magicoh ircd04:18
Bad_Magicfuck me04:18
Bad_Magicill shut up now04:18
Bad_Magicits early04:18
Bad_Magic=P04:18
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trygvebw:)04:18
Naked31Howto to list the daemon that are in update-rc.d04:18
trygvebwSonny_Wertzik: su - , or log in from gdm04:18
Sonny_Wertzikdo i type "su" for name and my password ?04:19
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Bad_Magicdo su root04:19
trygvebwNaked31: ls /etc/init.d ?04:19
Bad_Magicand then it prompts for passwd04:19
Bad_Magiclast i checked04:19
trygvebwno04:19
trygvebwhe has activated the root account04:19
trygvebwand now i wants to log in to it in a proper way04:19
trygvebwbbl04:20
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Naked31that list all that can be in rc.d04:20
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Ali`Gcan i make a domain on windows xp04:20
Sonny_Wertzikya the propper way04:20
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Bad_Magicdomains typically take windows server04:20
Bad_Magici think04:20
Bad_Magic=)04:20
Bad_Magicits been awhile since ive done anything windows networking related04:21
E_IIIwhat the easiest way is to configure partitions in ubuntu ? i have a non formated partitions. please notice i'm a newbye04:21
Sonny_Wertziki think u can but u need to install adminpak from the disc...if its on the disk04:21
Bad_Magicqparted04:21
Sonny_Wertziknot sure if its on the xp disk04:21
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Sonny_Wertzikuhh....it needs to be the xp pro disk if anything04:23
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Sonny_Wertziknot xp home heh04:23
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darklinuxerhi04:24
h17m4nhow do I change the chmod of a file?04:24
Bad_Magicman chmod04:24
Bad_Magic=)04:24
darklinuxeruse the linux04:24
darklinuxerhi04:24
darklinuxerwhere for for linux game?04:25
Ali`Ghow long would it take to make a domain on ubuntu?04:25
Fred|Fr3dAli`G: depends on what settings you want/need etc04:25
Ali`Gjust a basic one04:25
Ali`Gjust to use as a test04:25
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Naked311 hour, if you know what to do04:26
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Naked311 day if you have to learn04:26
darklinuxerhi04:26
Ali`Glol04:26
darklinuxerbye04:26
Ali`Gdo u know how to make them Naked3104:26
darklinuxerbye channel04:26
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h17m4nhow can I chmod the file /.wine/config04:27
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h17m4nI can't access that freaking dir on terminal04:27
pinucsetis there something like amarok (music player) for GNOME Ubuntu?04:27
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steve__quit04:27
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deFrysk /04:27
Ali`Gsudo chmod +x /.wine/config04:28
dwerfwhat's breezy?04:28
pinucsetthe new ubuntu release :)04:28
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deFryskdwerf, a not so strong wind04:28
dwerfhahaha04:28
Fred|Fr3ddeFrysk: LOL04:28
h17m4ngrrrr..... wine is evil: chmod: cannot access `/.wine/config': No such file or directory04:28
Fred|Fr3ddwerf: its also the new RC1 of Ubuntu released the other day04:28
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dwerfFred > ok, so i don't have it yet!04:29
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Quinthiush17m4n: are you sure it's /.wine and not ~/.wine ?04:30
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Fred|Fr3ddwerf: nope u dont04:30
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h17m4nQuinthius: I don't know04:30
h17m4nit's on chroot and I'm a noob04:30
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dwerfFred > but it's easily upgradeble?04:31
h17m4nso I just ran sudo konqueror04:31
X7Cdoes lm_sensors stuff have to be configured on ubuntu or does it work by default?04:31
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h17m4nand changed it from there04:31
Pyfim trying to open a rar file, its got rar, .r01 .r02 .r03 etc.... i cant get archive manager to open them though or ark.... suggestinos?04:31
h17m4n:)04:31
X7Ccasue mine doesn't work04:31
[A] ndy80one question: I installed Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 colony cd 4, now Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 Preview is out. How can I upgrade to this version?04:31
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DrewJ5hey, im looking for some help with ubuntu and windows XP network... can anyone help?04:31
Fred|Fr3ddwerf: i dunno, i havnt tried. i'd try the liveCD before i installed it over my current install tho!04:31
QuinthiusPyf: install unrar-nonfree?04:31
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X7CDrewJ5 hey, im looking for some help with ubuntu and windows XP network... can anyone help? << use samba04:31
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pittianyw: let's continue here04:32
[A] ndy80in particular: how can I enable the graphical boot (USplash)?04:32
Quinthius[A] ndy80: i THINK you just need to dist-upgrade... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:32
pittianyw: he worked at a program to manage storage devices04:32
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KimHansenI am having problems with my network connection after I have upgradet a hoary machine to breezy, I think it is some problem with capabilities and dhcp3-client. Is that a known problem?04:33
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pittianyw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StorageDeviceManager04:33
pittianyw: he worked at it during the summer04:33
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PyfQuinthius: it still says... "annot find volume /home/sam/Desktop/TV/The.OC.S03E01-F4G/the.oc.301-F4G.r02"04:34
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h17m4nwhen running WineSetupTk, do I have to add a c drive or what?04:34
Pyfwhich is there....04:34
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anywpitti, is it the only one ?04:34
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katzorh17m4n, yes you can add a fake c drive there04:34
QuinthiusPyf: hmm, i don't know..04:34
katzorh17m4n, this will be where your windows proggies will install and live04:35
QuinthiusPyf: is all the upper-case and lower-case matching?04:35
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Naked31http://naked.homelinux.net : does it work for you.04:35
Naked31Im testing04:35
[A] ndy80Quinthius: uhm.... doing a dist-upgrade told me that no upgrades are available....04:35
h17m4nshould I make it this path: /chroot/home/derickr/.wine/drive_c04:35
h17m4nor remove the /chroot/ since i'm running wine on chroot?04:36
katzorh17m4n, well, if your home directory is in /chroot04:36
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katzoroh04:36
Quinthius[A] ndy80: then maybe there isnt much difference between colony4 and preview until they have some time to fix more things :P04:36
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katzorh17m4n, then leave the chroot there04:36
Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38604:37
pittianyw: certainly not, but I just know about the student I mentored04:37
[A] ndy80Quinthius: ok, but... how do I enable USplash :) ?04:37
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PyfQuinthius: ooh, thanks think that was what it was, i dont see why it owuld be named wrong though....04:38
Quinthius[A] ndy80: dont know, im not using breezy :P ... might install it today tho04:38
[A] ndy80ok, thanks anyway04:39
katzor[A] ndy80, you need to install the usplash package and do a 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-'uname -r''04:39
katzorwith root04:39
[A] ndy80katzor: synaptic tell me that it's already installed04:39
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katzorthen just do the reconfigure04:40
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Quinthiusthe quotes around uname should be ` btw ... the backquote... so: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`04:42
anywpitti, last question, what award has he won ?04:43
katzorQuinthius, funny, i believe i pressed the right button...there's no difference if i press ' or ', which are on different keys04:43
pittianyw: there is no special award - you get the bounty or not, and he got it04:43
Quinthiuskatzor: weird hehe04:44
kochhi, could someone help me with the active x controls for mozilla?04:44
katzorah, i have to shift the ` :-)04:44
Quinthiuskatzor: are you on a non english keyboard?04:44
katzoryes04:44
Quinthiuskatzor: shift-` here gives ~ :)04:44
[A] ndy80Quinthius: no problem... I did: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-386 manually :)04:44
katzori figured it out `04:44
katzoryay04:45
[A] ndy80anyway it tells me this: Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...04:45
[A] ndy80I don't know if it's related to GRUB04:45
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anywpitti, but what is it ?04:45
[A] ndy80or to USplash...04:45
[A] ndy80I've to reboot to know this :)04:45
katzori get that too, usplash isnt a splash image04:45
katzorthats fine04:45
[A] ndy80ok.. I'm going to reboot now04:45
[A] ndy80see ya later!04:45
[A] ndy80and thanks for now!04:45
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Sonderbladehow do you do to install a different window manager?04:47
QuinthiusSonderblade: my guess is install it with apt-get :P ... then select it as your login session04:48
nxvlthere is a bug in the hoary2breezy upgrade04:48
erUSULSonderblade, sudo apt-get install <windowmanager>04:48
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pinucsetis kde an example of windowmanager? isnt is?04:49
Sonderbladethat simple?04:49
katzorpinucset, it contains one04:49
JowiSonderblade: most wm's also configures gdm so you have it in the dropdownlist when you log in. if it isn't there you will have to edit your .xsession file in your homedirectory.04:49
Quinthiuskde is more than just a window manager04:49
pinucsetok! :)04:49
pinucsetmm... do you know any review of gnome vs. kde? :D04:49
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Quinthiuspinucset: both are good, depends more on preference usually..04:50
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katzorpinucset, you will only find flamewars on google04:50
pinucsetcool, thanks :D04:50
[A] ndy80only one thing to say: IT WORKS!!!! :D04:50
katzor[A] ndy80, did it work?04:50
katzoryay04:50
pinucsetyeaaaaaaaaaah :D04:51
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idabhow do i invite another person to start nultiple chat in gaim04:51
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trygvebwHow can i unblock port 6667?04:52
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trygvebwNon-local users can't connect to me. :(04:53
AlexanROw32codecs installed mplayer still won't play wmv files04:53
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shinuAlexanRO: did you do everything according to ubuntuguide?04:54
AlexanROy04:54
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AlexanROfirst thing i checked04:54
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knelixHello!04:55
AlexanROplays avi, mpeg but not wmv04:55
shinuAlexanRO: im a newbie too but from what i remember i reboot helped me, though im not sure ^^'04:56
knelixHey guys. I'm building a new system-- a budget system, AMD. Trying to decide on CPU. Any recommendations?04:56
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Jowitrygvebw: ubuntu has no firewall installed by default. if you are behind a router you should check the configuration for it (usually it is called "virtual server" or "port redirection" or something like that)04:56
trygvebwJowi: thanks :)04:57
trygvebwok04:57
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knelixI'm looking at this page: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=517%3A7440&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=343&Submit=Property04:57
Jowiwow, the lenght of that link is impressive :-)04:58
knelixAnyone got suggestions as to which CPU would be best suited for Ubunto?04:58
knelixYes, I know-- Sorry.04:58
knelixWould an AMD Duron 1.6 Applebred 266MHz FSB be enough to run Ubunto smoothly?04:58
Jowiknelix: yes it is enough for day-to-day use. no need to worry about that. I run Ubuntu on a 1Ghz smoothly. RAM is more important i would say. and a good video card.05:00
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hou5toni gave my system to my public relations person, and since I no longer need to run Adobe products, what are the odds of syncing my Treo 650 with an Ubuntu install?05:01
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knelixI'm building on pretty tight budget. So, I'm thinking of 512 MB and going with integrated video for now.05:01
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Aloshi everyone05:02
knelixHello. :-)05:02
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Jowiknelix: i have 512mb too. the system never touches the swap partition. my integrated graphics (unichrome cle266) works fine in 2d but lacks dri support needed for accelerated 3d. find out which chipset the video uses05:03
Jowiknelix: just be aware of that integrated graphics uses your RAM as video memory.05:03
knelixRight. True. I am thinking of getting this barebones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1685611900205:04
Alosquestion, i've a tecra 8000, when i install 4.10 i had not problem with my screen, no I have 504 and I have a poor resolution, I've tried to change but i juns only have 1 option 640x480, any idea05:04
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knelixThis is the manufacture's page: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/products_barebone.cfm?pName=TLM454R3M6-C35005:06
knelixAs far as chipset it says "SiS 741 Northbridge" and "SiS 964 Southbridge"05:06
hou5tonIf I'm doing a new install on a laptop, should I go ahead and do that Breezy Badger one, or the one that's been out a while?05:07
knelixBut I don't see anything beyond "On-board VGA graphics controller" for graphics.05:07
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warriorhows it going guys.  Quick question, anyone had a problem with resolution settings?  When I installed ubuntu my highest resolution was 1152x864 and I did all the other ones under it to be safe but when I booted I was in 1152x768 and after fglrxconfig I was in 1024x768.  Any suggestions?05:07
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hou5tonIf I'm doing a new install on a laptop, should I go ahead and do that Breezy Badger one, or the one that's been out a while?05:08
warriorhou5ton, just so you know Breezy is still under development so there could be issues.  Are you a newbie?05:08
hou5tonwarrior:  yes05:08
hou5tonwarrior:  for the most part05:09
KimHansenI have found a bug in dhcp3-client, where do I see if it allready in the bug tracking system?05:09
olalWhere should I look for documentation to get my external monitor work with my laptop? (I have an ATI card in my laptop)05:09
knelixbtw, I heard GNOME 2.12 is out. I guess it will come with the next release of Ubunto-- or will the current one be updated with it?05:09
Bad_Magicbreezy isnt stable yet05:09
Jowiknelix: xorg seems to support SiS pretty ok. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardware - here you can check what chipsets have DRI support05:09
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carthikhou5ton, it's not out yet05:09
warriorhou5ton, then your safest bet is to go with Hoary.  Its really fast and the only true difference is the kernel version and software that comes with it05:09
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hou5tonolal:  I was looking for the same thing a while back ... not gonna happen.05:09
knelixWow.. disorienting disconnects!05:10
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carthikwarrior, i have had probs with resolution - usually fixed by having a knoppix cd around05:10
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knelixHeh. I'm back now.05:10
olalhou5ton: are you sure? i mean the xorglog seems to detect both my outputs?05:10
KimHansenah, it's in the /topic05:10
Jowiknelix: xorg seems to support SiS pretty ok. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardware - here you can check what chipsets have DRI support05:10
warriorcarthik, if I grab a knoppix cd do I just go back and have it redo my xorg file?05:11
hou5tonok ... go for it .... and let me know when you find it ... PLEASE05:11
knelixJowi: I'm sorry, could you explain what you just said to me? heh.05:11
olalhou5ton, what grafics card do you have?05:11
hou5tonati05:11
carthikwarrior, knoppix doesnt write the conf file to the hdd ... you will have to use a usb drive, or mail it to yourself, and then copy over only the "Mode" lines -- the minimum required, not the whole file05:11
warriorhaha05:11
warriorati is a bad bad idea05:12
olalhou5ton, yes but what model?05:12
hou5tonmobility radeon 960005:12
warriorI would know I own a X80005:12
warriorcarthik, can I just tweak it under my X11 folder?05:12
Jowiknelix: you will have no problem when it comes to display normal graphics. question is if you can get accelerated 3d for Xorg (the window system). DRI = accelerated graphics.05:13
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warriorJust so everyone knows I've tried a ton of different operating systems with my X800 and ubuntu is the only one I could get 3D with and it took a ton of searching for success stories in the forums05:13
knelixOh, okay. When would I use 3d, however? The GUI itself is 2D right?05:13
olali got a ati radeon 9250 as a present from a friend & that just refused to work.. :( to bad i cant use it since it had no fans & such..05:13
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Jowiknelix: yep, thats it. you can always add a "proper" video card later on though :-)05:14
knelixHmm. Interesting.05:14
knelixTrue. True.05:14
carthikwarrior, yep - just update the xorg.conf file appropriately05:14
knelixIs anyone here a classic Mac OS fan, btw?05:14
warriorcarthik, awesome, thanks man05:14
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zone17Hi, how do I find a DEB for Krename, which works on ubuntu?05:16
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warriorhey carthik you wouldn't know how to remove update-notifier without taking anything else with it would you?05:17
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Aloscarthik:updating xorg.conf could resolve screen resolution??05:18
zone17Or is there a ubuntu specific source which holds krename, if how to find out?05:18
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knelixI was just reading how Gnome is moving more in the direction of spatial file management, like the classic Mac OS, which I think is great. This is one of the things that bother me about OS X-- it's like Apple's given up on spatial file management. I really prefer this way to the "browser" way of interacting with a computer, though I also see advantages to a browser style as well. I think both have pros/cons.05:18
warriorzone17, you can alien it if you can get the rpm of Krename05:18
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deFryskzone17, krename is in the repositories afaIk05:18
ubuntuhey05:18
zone17deFrysk, thanks! How did you search on that? Or did you already know?05:19
olalknelix, i agree about the good things about spatial! but its hard when you have to deep levels05:19
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carthikAlos, and restarting X of course...05:19
knelixDoes Gnome also give you a browser option, btw?05:19
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deFryskzone17, apt-cache search krename05:20
carthikknelix, yes05:20
bloodnikhey, I had to install this wireless card with ndiswrapper ... now how do I make it use WPA?05:20
carthikknelix, you are talking nautilus - not gnome, exactly...05:20
sciorluHi, Does someone know if the problem with macromedia flash player for amd64 platform is resolved ?05:21
knelixIt's the best of both worlds, then. :-) Oh, yes, you are right-- like the Finder in the Mac OS. :-)05:21
zone17deFrysk, would you mind sharing your repo source? Perhaps paste on nomorepasting.05:21
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deFrysk!info krename05:21
Aloscathik: o X site should I read how to do this???05:21
deFrysk! krename05:21
ubotudeFrysk: Bugger all, i dunno05:21
deFrysktss05:21
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knelixHow are you supposed to pronounce Gnone. nome, or, Ga-nome?05:22
carthikbloodnik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:22
Hoxzerwhat DVD player for ubuntu do you recomend?05:22
deFryskzone17, you have muliverse , universe ?05:22
deFryskmultiverse*05:22
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zone17deFrysk, yes both05:22
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pawdrohi, how can I check in ubuntu where i've installed jdk?05:22
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carthikAlos, it is just like i said above...05:23
deFryskzone17, I use breezy , its in there not sure about hoary tho05:23
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fbladehey guys hw can i get update my ubuntu?05:23
Aloscathik: ok Thanks05:23
knelixSince, unfortunately, I can't seem to have many real-world audio conversations about Gnome, etc, sometimes I just don't know how it's supposed to be pronounced!05:23
deFryskfblade, apt-get update blah05:23
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carthikknelix, guh-nome05:23
warriorhow do I remove update-notifier without removing anything else?05:24
Necron69fblade: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%2905:24
warriorsynaptic wants to take other things with it05:24
deFryskwarrior, apt-get remove --nodeps blah05:24
knelixKind of clumsy, that pronunciation. Heh. Oh, well. :-P05:24
JowiHoxzer: do you mean a DVD-ROM or Mediaplayer?05:24
warriorgotcha DeFrysk05:25
carthikpawdro, whereis java05:25
pawdrothx05:25
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HoxzerJowi: mediplayer05:26
HoxzerI also want to know how I can setup programs to total full screen05:26
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warriorI'm waiting for the day where you tell someone "whereis java" and they respond, "Thats what I'm asking you."05:26
Hoxzerxine looks cool05:26
JowiHoxzer: I use totem-xine, which plays every dvd i have.05:26
danljoin /linux05:26
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deFrysk;p05:27
bloodnikcarthik, that only helps me set up WEP encryption. I need WPA.05:27
Hoxzerjowi: and do I need some other stuff to play DVD than only the player?05:27
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deFryskHoxzer, sudo apt-get install totem-xine05:27
Hoxzer-> boot05:27
JowiHoxzer: libdvdcss2 - that's it.05:27
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hou5tonok ... let me ask you this question .... for some reason I can't get my laptop to see the usb connected Treo 650, but I find tutorials on how to connect it with blue tooth05:27
knelixIs an AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB superior to an AMD Duron 1.8 Applebred 266MHz FSB?05:27
pawdroand how can I check the version of jdk installed?05:27
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hou5tonif I get a usb blue tooth, won't it have the same issues, since it is still going through a usb port?05:28
bloodnikcarthik, never mind, think I found it05:28
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Jowipawdro: usually you just type: programame --version05:28
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pawdrook ok ive got it05:29
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sciorluraga, qualcuno s se Macromedia Flash-player funziona su piattaforma amd64 Athlon ?05:30
Hoxzeraaargh daamn05:30
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JowiHoxzer: install libdvdcss2 to play any commercial dvd05:30
HoxzerI'm really having hard time to resizing my ntfs partition05:30
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danlis there any way to get acpi to reconginize my battery correctly?05:31
bloodnesshow can i uninstall an app?05:31
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Jowibloodness: apt-get remove <application>05:31
Colloidwhat's gonna be better in breezy?05:31
humulusapt-get remove <some-app<05:31
deFryskbloodness, apt-get remove <app>05:31
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deFryskbloodness, or remove it with synaptic05:31
bloodnessok05:32
HoxzerW: Failed to fetch http://tamir.nooms.de/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb05:32
Hoxzer  404 Not Found05:32
Hoxzerstrange :E05:32
Deterministdear god, a back tire for a GS500 costs like a bloody mortgage05:33
sciorluHozer, do your Macromedia Flash player works on your computer ?05:33
sciorluHoxzer do your Macromedia Flash player works on your computer ?05:34
bloodnessE: Couldn't find package quake205:34
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bloodnessit says05:34
bloodnessi want to uninstall q205:34
Hoxzersciorlu: haven't tried05:34
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bloodnikWhy is mozilla-firefox not being updated?05:35
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bloodnikWhat's the most likely reason?05:35
Hoxzer:E hmmm05:35
sciorluIt seem that there are a lot of problem05:35
HoxzerI can't find libdvdcss2 from synapic05:35
Hoxzeronly from unoffical repo what doesn't work05:35
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geemancould someone help me? i can't install gidentd or phpsysinfo with apt-get? are they really not available?05:35
dade`breezy gives me problem05:36
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dade`after last upgrade X cannot find xfonts fixed05:36
dade`i reinstalled xfonts-base (un and install)05:36
dade`and it worked05:36
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dade`but now keyboard does not work under X05:36
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JowiHoxzer: i don't have amd64. found mine in: dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb05:36
bloodnessi couldnt remove quake205:36
bloodnesspls help05:36
Hoxzerjowi: ok....05:37
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tux-roxbloodness, you are trying to uninstall Quake2?05:37
HoxzerI better check this from wiki05:37
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antonio__hi, i have an acer travel mate laptop. the gnome battery app is not working. i find it strange that both apmd and acpi is installed. acpi -b gives no output... any clues?05:38
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HiddenWolf!uboto help05:38
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, HiddenWolf05:38
bloodnessyes tux05:38
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geemanis it possible to install a replacement identd with apt-get?05:38
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geemanif so what identd is best?05:39
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Hoxzer:D this AMD64 is getting really hard05:40
bloodnesstux-rox i want uninstall quake205:40
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linuxsbartleyHi.  Trying to configure eth1 on a first time ubuntu-server install.  Can anyone help?05:41
smottis there any nice graphical tool i can use to partition and format drives?05:41
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bloodnikOK, this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto - has a huge script at the start for DHCP, but I have no idea what to do with it05:41
Jowismott: gparted05:42
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bloodnikWhat do I do with it?05:42
smottJowi: thanks05:42
linuxsbartleyifconfig only shows eth0.  unsure how to configure ubuntu network devices.05:42
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tux-roxbloodness, ok, what directory did it install in?05:42
InitMassanyone who use SkypeIN or SkypeOut?05:42
linuxsbartleyIs there a tool or howto?05:42
Jowilinuxsbartley: sudo network-admin (usually do the trick)05:42
linuxsbartleyJowi, cool. thx.05:43
JowiInitMass: yes, SkypeOut.05:43
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linuxsbartleyJowi, what package installs network-admin?05:43
antonio__linuxsbartley, /etc/network/interfaces05:43
Jowi!search network-admin05:43
ubotuJowi: I don't know05:43
InitMassJowi, do you think it has as good sound and is as stable as a regular phone?05:43
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knelixCan anyone help me out with CPUs... Is an AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB superior to an AMD Duron 1.8 Applebred 266MHz FSB?05:43
[Spooky] InitMass: i just use the ordinary ip to ip skype...05:44
JowiInitMass: better quality than regular phone. never had problems with it. and its CHEAP.05:44
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Jowilinuxsbartley: i think it is a part of gnome....05:45
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bloodnesstux-rox /usr/local/games05:45
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parktownprawnlinuxbartley: network-admin is part of gnome - it should be there - try sudo network-admin05:45
InitMassJowi, cheap if you are calling to other countries compared to regular phones but it's not that cheap if you are calling local calles05:45
tux-roxOK, to uninstall Quake2, you could do the following: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/quake2    Is there a menu item or it as well, or desktop icon?05:46
JowiInitMass: right, no use for skypeout if you call local. but i doubt that's what it's for. i call sweden and africa quite often though. it has saved me hundreds of euros per month.05:47
antonio__linuxsbartley, it is much more easy to edit the configuration file itself...05:47
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InitMassJowi, i never call anything else than sweden. i might start calling my sister in scotland thou05:47
Jowilinuxsbartley: if you made a server-install for ubuntu then you will not have network-admin. but as a standard install it will be there.05:48
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bloodnessyes a menu item05:48
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linuxsbartleyJowi, thus the question on what package would provide it. :)05:48
bloodnessapp->others->quake205:48
smotterm, which is 'more reliable', ext3 or reiserfs4?05:48
linuxsbartleyantonio__, is there a howto or example file that will show the correct syntax?05:48
geemanhow can i install gidentd? compiling from sources is the only option?05:48
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theD3viLhow can i remove all the packages which come with some program (etc. amarok), and i remove amarok but programs stay... HOW CAN I REMOVE IT? ;)05:48
deFrysksmott, ext3 is most reliable05:49
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bart_theD3viL, interesting question, I would also like to know that!05:49
h17m4nwhy do I get this error: wine: cannot find 'wineboot'05:49
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JowiInitMass: Skype out rates for sweden: Sweden  0.017  0.020 / Sweden - Mobile  0.237  0.273 / Sweden - Mobile (Telia)  0.237  0.273 (second number is rate with tax)05:50
theD3viLbart_, to debian: deborphan, debfoster05:50
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bloodnesstux-rox but there is a shortcut how can i uninstall app->others->quake205:50
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Jowilinuxsbartley: i will have to go in just a minute so unfortunatley i do not have the time to check... :-/05:50
antonio__linuxsbartley:05:50
antonio__auto eth105:50
antonio__iface eth1 inet static05:50
antonio__netmask 2555.255.255.005:50
antonio__address 10.0.0.105:50
parktownprawnlinuxsbartley: maybe gnome-system-tools provides network-admin05:51
linuxsbartleyJowi, k.np.05:51
linuxsbartleyantonio__, thx.05:51
antonio__or if you have only one network card use: eth0:105:51
linuxsbartleyparktownprawn, k.05:51
InitMassJowi, yes i had at those numbers before. i am living in sweden and am thinking about using skype instead of my old phone05:51
antonio__then make /etc/init.d/networking restart05:51
JowiInitMass: ah cool. have you found any good phones?05:51
Juhazknelix, the sempron is slightly faster since it has faster fsb and larger cache05:52
knelixAh, thanks.05:52
InitMassJowi, i don't need one. i have my headset05:52
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HoxzerI'm trying to play .avi with totem why I dont get any video screening?05:53
pinucsetumm...05:53
pinucsetwatch about de codecs05:53
pinucsetsudo apt-get install win3205:53
pinucsetif it is divx (i think)05:53
Hoxzer:D win32?05:54
darkheartw32codecs05:54
Hoxzersounds scary05:54
Hoxzerok05:54
antonio__is there a package in ubuntu to load kernel modules (semi) grafically like modconf?05:54
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Sonderbladeis there a window manager that minimizes in the same way that windows does? by animating the titlebar?05:54
JowiInitMass: same here. but if i would use skype as a replacement i would get a skype phone in case. Preferably one that connects to the router/switch with ethernet :-)05:54
pinucsetsudo apt-get install w32codecs05:54
deFrysksudo apt-get install xp bill would have a fit05:54
Jowi...annnnnyway, got to go. take care all.05:54
linuxsbartleyantonio__, I have two nic's.  eth0 and eth1.  after adding those lines, ifconfig now only shows eth1.05:54
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bart_thed3vil: why isn't this done automatically? this way the system get full of 'trash' ...05:54
carthikSonderblade, what do you mean "Animating the titlebar?"05:55
Hoxzerroot@dhcppc0:/home/niko # apt-get install w32codecs05:55
HoxzerReading package lists... Done05:55
HoxzerBuilding dependency tree... Done05:55
HoxzerE: Couldn't find package w32codecs05:55
Hoxzer:(05:55
Hoxzerwhy did I install amd64 version :D05:55
pinucsetwin32codecs05:55
pinucsetsorry ;)05:55
frank23Hoxzer: w32codecs is not in amd6405:55
carthikHoxzer, please dont paste output in the channel - its considered unbecoming :)05:55
tux-roxbloodness, Sorry I am not responding quickly, as I am at work. You may need to install the Gnome menu editor to delete that. Hang on, I'll look it up.05:55
pinucsetoh no05:55
pinucsethave you updated the repositories?05:56
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theD3viLbart_, you are "guilty" for "trash" if you dont remove program is allrajt :)05:56
antonio__linuxsbartley: ifup eth005:56
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linuxsbartleyantonio__, did a networking restart.05:56
Hoxzerfrank23: so is there any way to play .avi files with am64?05:56
Sonderbladecarthik: in windows, when you minimize windows the titlebar is moved to the taskbar05:56
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carthikSonderblade, that is what happens in gnome+metacity05:56
carthikSonderblade, the taskbar is at the bottom by default...05:57
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linuxsbartleyifup did it.05:57
pinucsethozxer, do this http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and sudo apt-get update // sudo apt-get install w32codecs05:57
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carthikyou can add it to a "Panel" wherever you like...05:57
Bateau_hey! whats the command to see all the processes that is running, and how much cpu and memory they use05:57
faugnhi05:57
pinucsetbateau: top05:57
antonio__linuxsbartley, mybe hotplug is acting against you....05:57
pinucsettop in the terminal :)05:57
Bateau_ah, yes. thanks :)05:57
Sonderbladecarthik: yes but the animation is different05:58
linuxsbartleycouldbe05:58
bart_:) ok, trying debfoster now05:58
pinucsetnothing ;)05:58
antonio__linuxsbartley, remove :mapping hotplug05:58
antonio__        script grep05:58
antonio__        map eth005:58
frank23Hoxzer: yes, you can setup a 32bit chroot or maybe there is also another way. check the forums in the amd64 section. The easiest way, however is to simply use the i386 version of Ubuntu05:58
johGuys, I'm having problems with Breezy... I just upgraded to breezy on my PPC, but when I boot, modprobe messages saying the cannot find the running kernels modules.dep are spewed on the screen :(05:58
carthikSonderblade, oh, I dont even remember how it looked like in Windows sorry05:58
faugnI'm using a dualhead config, and I'd like to know if it's possible to get rid of the gnome-panels on one of the display?05:58
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cvtdo you think this will be good?  http://tinyurl.com/alvkk05:58
cvtdoom 305:58
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antonio__and add: auto eth0 before iface eth0 inet dhcp05:58
tux-roxbloodness, what version of Ubuntu are you running?05:59
johI can't even access the TTY to BusyBox :(05:59
johis Breezy on PPC broken?05:59
frank23Hoxzer: I used to use amd64 but switched to i386 and that's what I recommend to everyone for now05:59
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Hoxzerfrank: can you give me a url to forums?05:59
bloodness5.0405:59
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frank23Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=1005:59
faugnthe problem is I can modifie the existing one on the second display, and restart the session, but if I delete them, when I restart the session, they are recreated (with the default config)05:59
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senectushey how do I make desktop shortcuts to shell scripts run the script when they're double clicked?06:00
tux-roxDoes anyone know off hand what repository smeg is in?06:00
parktownprawnsenectus: right click on the desktop and try: create laucher06:01
smotthdparm says "BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=0" ... does that mean it's confused about how much buffer my sata drive has? also how do i enable dma on sata (do sata drives even have dma?)06:01
tux-roxDoes anyone know off hand what repository smeg is in for hoary?06:01
dpickeris it possible to update to the final release (when its out) from within 5.10 preview??06:01
endy_xsmott, hdparm is not for sata drives afaik06:01
endy_xsmott, i think they app you want is called smart tools or something06:01
johoh crap, I forgot to relink the initrds :(06:01
parktownprawntux-rox : i think you can get smeg from the backports06:02
frank23Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457506:02
senectusparktownprawn, Did that for some reason some of my shell scripts wont run, even after being made executable.. but if I run them from the shell... no problem06:02
smottendy_x: hm darn :/ i had hoped i would never have to bother with OS crap again. now i have to read up on this. thanks06:03
frank23dpicker: yes06:03
tux-roxparktownprawn, Thanks!06:03
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frank23dpicker: it's the magic of apt!06:03
endy_xi'm looking myself now, my hdd performance has always been ok but I know the kernel SATA  drivers aren't complete yet so there is some way to go still06:03
tux-roxbloodness, Have you followed the Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide and installed the menu editor?06:04
endy_xsmott, eg S.M.A.R.T isn't supported yet I think and neither is NCQ06:04
parktownprawnsenectus: hmmm - works for me - maybe if you click on: run in terminal when making the launcher06:04
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bart_theD3viL: when I install 3dchess, it says xaw3dg is also needed. is there an easy way to make sure such packages are removed later?06:05
endy_xsmott, http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/06:05
smottendy_x: i just want it to work more or less like my old ATA drive. that's possible right?06:05
frank23endy_x: are you talking about SMART on SATA? because SMART on ATA works06:05
theD3viLbart_, sry..dunno :\06:05
senectusparktownprawn, tried that too.. :-/ I get a shell pop up for a split second then nothing06:05
endy_xsmott,  mine works great06:05
HoxzerGeez the repo is down >_<06:06
theD3viLbart_, can you give me the link to soldier of fortune for linux ?06:06
bloodnessUnofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide where can i get it06:06
endy_xfrank23, SATA works for me under linux but IIRC its not fully supported on linux yet so it DOES work but not at it's best performance. Don;t get me wrong though mine is still fast06:06
parktownprawnsenectus: go to the Desktop directory in a terminal  - there should be some .desktop files there corresponding to the launchers you made06:06
frank23Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457506:06
bloodnessand where is menueditor :)06:06
parktownprawnsenectus: are they executable06:06
pinucsethttp://ubuntuguide.org/06:06
bloodnessok06:06
endy_xhttp://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html06:07
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deFrysk!ubuntuguide06:07
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.06:07
tux-roxbloodness, http://ubuntuguide.org/   Follow the directions and you will be able to install all kinds of cool software. Install the Menu Editor and use that to remove the Quake2 icon.06:07
tux-roxbloodness, Have fun!06:07
bloodnessok thnx06:07
bloodnessso much06:08
deFryskafaIk its not done to advise to use the inferiour ubuntuguide06:08
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senectusparktownprawn, nope.. I treid making the offending shortcut +x and that mad no difference06:08
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parktownprawnsenectus: what is the script you are trying to run?06:09
bart_theD3viL thanks nope...06:09
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senectusparktownprawn, NeverWinterNights game06:09
parktownprawnsenectus: what do you get when you cat the .desktop file06:09
parktownprawnsenectus: when you run it from the shell there isn't a problem?06:10
senectusparktownprawn, no problem when run from shell, correct06:10
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endy_xhttp://linux.yyz.us/sata/software-status.html#smart  smart support on sata is coming :)06:10
parktownprawnsenectus: strange06:11
senectusparktownprawn, PM'd the cat output to you..06:12
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parktownprawnsenectus: go to system->preferences->file-management ->behaviour06:13
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pinucsetone questoin please, im doing apt-get upgrade and he says for installing  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386. Whats this?06:13
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senectusparktownprawn, yeah?06:13
parktownprawnsenectus: just started using xchat - not sure how to get pm's06:13
senectusparktownprawn, umm at the very bottom of the screen?06:14
h17m4nwhy do I get this error: wine: cannot find 'wineboot'06:14
parktownprawnsenectus: system->preferences->file-management ->behaviour has preferences   for how execteble files are treated06:15
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senectusparktownprawn, I see.. tried every choice.. no change for the offending shortcut06:16
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leopoldis it possible to save the Grup entry to my second harddisc os windows?06:16
parktownprawnsenectus: sorry - i'm not sure whats wrong06:16
pluffsyhello. anyone here running the 5.10 preview? is it stable? is like beta or what is it? I'm getting an powerbook g3 on monday and I can't decide if I should install 5.06 or 5.10. Since I will use it as a desktop it doesn't have to be rock solid, but I would not like it like loose the work files I will store on it (even though I will bu of course)06:17
leopoldwant to save grub menu.lst to sec harddisc os win06:17
senectusparktownprawn, interesting... when I set "View executable text files when clicked" it _still_ does nothing.. just an inert icon...06:17
pluffsyI would really like to use gnome 2.12 :)06:17
leopoldis it possible?06:17
pluffsyand 2.6.13 and beagle would be cool to try too06:17
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parktownprawnsenectus: what are the permissions for the .desktop files06:17
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parktownprawnsenectus: maybe nautilus is being weird - try killing nautilus and then see if it works06:18
senectusparktownprawn, -rwx--x--x  1 senectus senectus 263 2005-09-10 00:04 NWN.desktop06:18
alberto_hi06:18
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senectusparktownprawn, no change :-/06:18
parktownprawnsenectus: nautilus should restart automatically if you kill it : killall -9 nautilus06:19
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shinuis there a way to compare between 2 folders to see if the files in them are similar?06:19
parktownprawnsenectus: ok I have no idea06:19
leopoldive got a prob with grup:  i want it to boot my sec harddisc os win prim slave....doesnt work...settings seem to be fine....i know, that win doesnt like being slave, so i could save Grup to the win harddisc make it master and the ubuntu hardisc slave....but How can I save the grub menu.lst to windows?06:19
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cvthas anyone here got doom 3 to work on ubuntu?06:19
senectusparktownprawn, hmmm ok thanks for the help.. time for bed.. will sleep on it :-) Got a big day of "software freedom day" tomorrow :-P06:19
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senectuscvt, I have :-) no problems06:20
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parktownprawnsenectus: not that nwn is free06:20
wezzerhello, anyone installed fuhquake to ubuntu?06:20
wezzerI can't get it to work06:20
parktownprawnsenectus: enjoy it anyway06:20
senectusparktownprawn, true.. but It wasn't for that :-P06:20
theD3viLcvt, ill when ill have all 3cds06:20
pinucsetif i have upgraded the Linux Kernel i have to reboot? For the changes takes effect :)06:20
othernoobhas anyone here had a club 3d graphics card?06:20
cvtsenectus, did you have to burn cd's?06:21
cvti have about 9 more hours06:21
cvtprobably more like 406:21
senectuscvt, nope.. I own them.. why would I need to do that?06:21
frank23othernoob: a what?06:21
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cvtsenectus, good to hear06:21
frank23pinucset: yes06:21
pinucsetthanks!06:21
othernoobfrank23: club 3d.. a dutch graphicscard manufacturer06:22
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deFryskothernoob, I have one06:22
frank23othernoob: oh06:22
deFryskothernoob, nvidia chipset06:22
senectuscvt, I make a point of buying all my games since switching to linux :-P06:22
cvthttp://tinyurl.com/alvkk  this is the one i'm getting06:22
othernoobdeFrysk: are they any good?06:22
cvtsenectus, they sell versions for linux?06:23
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h17m4nQuestion. How do I remove a messed up wine installation, and what steps should I follow in order to make a good installation?06:23
senectuscvt, linux supported out of the box (need to download the installer)06:23
deFryskothernoob, i have an 128 mb GeFORCE FX 520006:23
Hoxzerdo you guys know any DVD/divx players that can browse files without going out of the full screen?06:24
deFryskothernoob, work ok06:24
deFryskworks*06:24
cvtsenectus, amazing06:24
deFryskothernoob, no privating06:24
cvtto me06:24
frank23deFrysk: I hope you didn't buy it for gaming... ;-)06:24
senectuscvt, same for Unreal Tournament 200406:24
deFryskfrank23, nope06:24
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deFryskfrank23, I  bought it to be ready for doom406:25
deFrysk;p06:25
senectuscvt, I highly recommend "Lugaru", Icculus just finished porting it to linux.. :-)06:25
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cheesie!wlan06:25
ubotuNot a clue, cheesie06:25
cheesie!wireless06:25
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:25
othernoobdeFrysk: i saw a Club 3D Ati RadeOn 9600 256MB for 70 euro, would it be an okay card for gaming and maybe last a year (regarding gaming)?06:25
deFryskothernoob, nope06:25
deFrysktoo light06:26
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marmelattahi06:26
frank23othernoob: if you want to game in linux, use nvidia, not ati06:26
marmelattahi frank06:26
shinudoes diff folder1 folder2 report if there is a file in each folder with same name but different size?06:26
othernoobfrank23: it's not for linux..06:26
deFryskfrank23, it IS nvidia06:26
deFryskothernoob, I dont do windows06:26
senectusfrank23, othernoob, I second that sentament.. Nvidia and Linux rocks for gaming06:26
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othernoobdeFrysk: neither do i, but the friend i'm building a comp for does06:26
deFryskothernoob, havent used windows in 4 yrs06:26
marmelattau r really borng too bor06:27
marmelattaing06:27
marmelattabhhh06:27
deFryskothernoob, a proper vid card costs at least 250 euris06:27
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bloodnesswhat is delete command06:27
bloodnessdelete isnt work :)06:27
marmelattaok06:27
othernoobdeFrysk: of course, but the set limit is 500 euro for the whole thing. and it does not necessarily have to be 2005 standard06:27
marmelattazkkkmn kk06:27
Naked31rm06:28
frank23othernoob: I don't know about prices in Europe, but I'm sure you can get something decent in the 150-200 euro range06:28
bloodnessrm?06:28
deFryskothernoob, for micky mouse gaming its plenty good06:28
othernoobfrank23: yea i could. but the limit i have to operate with sucks06:28
othernoobdeFrysk: micky mouse gaming=06:28
othernoob?06:28
bloodnesshow can i delete something in terminal what is command?06:28
marmelattauuuf beeeeeeee06:28
marmelattane06:28
marmelattabiim06:28
marmelattaadamlarsnz06:28
marmelattaya06:28
frank23othernoob: 500 euros for the whole computer, maybe a radeon 9600 is ok06:28
marmelattasalak06:28
Naked31man rm06:28
marmelattasalak06:28
runehI'm trying to file a bug against libglade2-ruby, but the frontend at launchpad says it's a invalid package name. What to do?06:28
marmelattaknmayn be06:29
othernoobbloodness: rm06:29
deFryskothernoob, low ram budget gaming06:29
marmelattawd wd wd06:29
bloodnesssus06:29
frank23marmelatta: please shut up06:29
bloodnessthnx06:29
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marmelattayuooooo06:29
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marmelattasuscakmm06:29
marmelattasen kmsn bea06:29
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cvti hate windows with the passion of christ06:29
marmelattahate mi06:29
marmelattahade len06:29
cvtever since i switched to linux life has been better06:29
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othernoobcvt: now if you switch from christianity to atheism life will be perfect ;)06:30
DewDudeit's still going06:30
cvtothernoob, i did06:30
cvtlol06:30
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reiki_workor humanism06:30
othernooblol06:30
marmelattasen bmnm ass me kurban ol lan06:30
deFryskothernoob, never!06:30
cvti am referring to the peter pan view of christ hehe06:30
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reiki_work<-  clergy .... church of spiritual humanism ... no deities06:31
marmelattasalak06:31
marmelattau06:31
bloodnessothernoob so what is rename command06:31
bloodness?06:31
othernoobdeFrysk: could you elaborate on lowram budget gaming? meaning games from 2004 or so will run nicely?06:31
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frank23bloodness: mv oldname newname06:31
othernoobbloodness: rename06:31
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DewDude<- former christian ...... rejects religion .... can't shake the values implanted in his brain .... tries06:31
leopoldhow does the order have to look like to install Grup on windows MBR with grub-install "grub-install...*"????06:31
deFryskothernoob, no clue , i am not a gamer06:31
bloodnessthnx06:31
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marmelattasheets06:32
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reiki_workDewDude.... hard road... hehehe... early training is tought to shake06:32
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othernoobdeFrysk: neither am i :/06:32
DewDudeyeah06:32
DewDudeit is06:32
DewDudei mean, i don't say the bible is wrong06:32
DewDudei just don't put as much faith as to what is says is "law"06:32
deFryskothernoob, just get the 70 euro one06:32
DewDudei just can't06:32
DewDudeany document written and compiled by man is going to have outside influence06:33
reiki_workexactly06:33
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deFryskothernoob, also get a 400watt powerfeed for the box06:33
reiki_worknow we have to correlate this somehow to Ubuntu or we have to shut up :)06:33
marmelattasalak06:33
marmelattayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:33
Lunar_LampDewDude - personally i don't get that argument really - as if God wants the bible to be the truth and the law - it would do...06:33
reiki_workor... we can kill marmelatta06:33
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othernoobDewDude: i hope you don't doubt the Holy Spirit or else you'll be damned for all eternity (said twice in the bible, the only unforgivable sin)06:34
deFrysk!ops06:34
ubotuwell, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth06:34
deFryskanyone around ?06:34
marmelattame06:34
marmelattado06:34
X7Cme too06:34
othernoobdeFrysk: so an already built tower with 400W will be okay?06:34
marmelattau want06:34
marmelattame06:34
DewDudei don't doubt the holy spirit06:34
marmelattamuhahahah06:34
Hoxzer:E06:34
deFryskothernoob, 400w should do yes06:34
Hoxzeraargh06:34
DewDudei just don't think 99% of what we have written down is accurate06:34
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humulussorry :(06:35
othernoobdeFrysk: okay, thanks :)06:35
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smottubuntu can install and boot from SATA right?06:35
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snorksyes06:36
deFryskothernoob, gool luck (with your budget)06:36
deFryskgood*06:36
marmelattaf* offs06:36
snorkssmott: yes06:36
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piorekhi06:36
snorks06:37
marmelattahow can u kll me06:37
marmelattamuhahahha06:37
Xorlev_kill -9 marmelatta?06:37
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marmelattayhahah06:37
marmelattat s so06:37
marmelattadffcult 4 u06:37
marmelattasnt t06:37
snorkswhat's the -9 flag? is it short for -KILL?06:37
bloodnessgerizekal ouk defol gir urdan06:38
humbolthow is the netapplet called again in breezy?06:38
marmelattasensn o mala bak06:38
bloodnessezik06:38
marmelattaocuk mu06:38
marmelatta06:38
marmelattaezk06:38
marmelattam06:38
marmelattasalak06:38
marmelattaya06:38
snorksplease stop that language06:38
marmelattagrzek06:38
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marmelattasus lan blood nes06:38
X7Chow can i see hidden files on a cdrom written in windows from linux?06:38
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reiki_workthanks, fab06:38
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bloodnessthnx :)06:38
deFryskfabbione, great thanks :)06:39
fabbioneanybody else?06:39
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fabbioneotherwise i am back to take away wall paper :)06:39
fabbionelast 3 sq. m.06:39
fabbione!!106:39
ubotufabbione: Wish i knew06:39
fabbioneok06:39
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fabbionelater fellas06:39
deFrysklater fabbione06:39
nanasawaQuite an obscure question, but when your near the end of the installation and the resolution box comes up, I havn't figured out what to do to select the higher resolutions, hitting enter just skips it and boots me into 1024 :\06:39
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frank23bloodness: what language was that?06:40
snorksmark them with spacebar06:40
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snorksnanasawa: what is aid06:40
bloodnessturkish06:40
snorksnanasawa: the longest button on your keyboard06:40
nanasawaSpacebar huh, thanks :)06:40
Hoxzer:E this is hard :D06:41
snorksnanasawa: ;) np good luck. I had the same problem :p06:41
nanasawaShould be more clearly marked, just says 'select' and doesn't say what key :D06:41
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HoxzerI have spend like 5hours to just get divx to play06:41
frank23bloodness: thanks, I had absolutely no idea what it was...06:41
bloodness:)06:41
enowhen I boot my ubuntu splash screen doesn't go away until I click on it!  somebody please help me!06:41
frank23Hoxzer: reinstalling with i386 would have been quicker06:41
frank23;-)06:42
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reiki_workok... now I get to go for a walk and get paid for it. :) ONce around the lake should be fine06:42
reiki_work2 more years to retirement.... I hope I make it... hehehe06:43
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snorksreiki_work: are you an oldie?06:43
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reiki_workindeed... I turn 53 in a few day06:43
snorkscool06:44
snorksnetwork admin_06:44
snorks?06:44
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HoxzerAAAAAAAAArrrrrgh06:44
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snorksHoxzer: sup?06:44
Hoxzerfrank23: I might agreed with that :D06:44
bloodnikHas there been a recent openoffice update? Because it's not working any more06:44
Hoxzerthis is so shit....06:44
reiki_worknot any more... I certified in NT and cisco, but I really didn't enjoy it after it became work. So now I work at a university and I get quotes for departments when tehy want to buy computer equipment06:45
Hoxzerlike you cant even play xvid :D06:45
Hoxzerand dvd06:45
Hoxzer...at least I can play mp3's06:45
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Hoxzerbut not well them either06:45
snorkswell everything can be fixed06:45
bloodnikomg it just loaded06:45
bloodnikAfter like, five minutes of splash screen06:45
Hoxzersnorks: yeah, but it will take time06:45
snorksbloodnik: i have a tip for you06:45
reiki_workbloodnik: OOo?  mine opens relatively fast06:45
Hoxzermaybe I download i38606:46
snorksbloodnik: disable framebuffer. it's fairly useless06:46
snorksHoxzer: you using amd64?06:46
Hoxzeryeap06:46
snorkssame here06:46
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snorkswhat's not working?06:46
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Hoxzersnorks: xvid and dvd's06:46
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snorksHoxzer: as in divx's?06:47
reiki_workok... out for a walk-about... back in a bit06:47
Hoxzersnorks: I can't get the video from the file only sound06:47
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snorksHoxzer: ah06:47
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snorksHoxzer: what app are you using to play the videos?06:48
Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know why xine 0.99.3 locks up when i switch to fullscreen??06:48
Hoxzersnorks: totem06:48
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HoxzerAAARth hit my foot06:48
Sonny_WertzikHozer u talkin to me?06:49
Hoxzerhuuurts...06:49
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snorksHoxzer: if you don't mind using 3rd party apps, I suggest VLC player06:49
Sonny_WertzikHoxzer?06:49
Hoxzer:D06:49
Hoxzerseems im popular06:49
HoxzerSnorks: VLC just crashes when I play DVD or xvid06:49
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Sonny_Wertzikoops...sorry06:49
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yanchenghi06:50
snorksHoxzer: hm, not here06:50
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yanchengi oledi set noautoindent in my vi, why when i press enter, my next line will be indent??06:50
Hoxzersnorks: no...06:50
snorkstype of course06:50
cheesieDarkEye06:50
cheesiey006:50
Hoxzerit just dont play sounds06:50
DarkEyehi06:50
cheesieubotu tell DarkEye about Java06:50
Hoxzerlike other players do06:50
cheesiei think thats how i do it06:50
cheesienot sure06:51
cheesiethat right people?06:51
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Hoxzerbut vlc shows the video :O06:51
cheesieHoxzer dude, thats the right syntax isnt it?06:51
snorksHoxzer: i think you need alsa output plugin for VLC to get sound06:51
cheesieyup06:51
cheesieDarkEye it worked right?06:51
cheesie!msn06:52
ubotuNot a clue, cheesie06:52
snorksHoxzer: apt-cache search vlc | grep alsa06:52
cheesie!web06:52
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cheesie06:52
cheesie!mozilla06:52
ubotucheesie: Do they come in packets of five?06:52
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Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know why xine 0.99.3 locks up when i switch to fullscreen??06:52
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Sonny_WertzikAnybody even use xine?06:52
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snorksHoxzer: or whatever sound daemon you use, of course06:52
runehyancheng: Is smartindent on?06:52
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yanchengoh, maybe i should turn it on.06:53
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runehNot if you don't want autoindenting.06:53
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yanchengruneh: ya, i turn both off. but when i edit c file, i still auto indent after ()06:54
HoxzerSnokrs: seems not to work06:54
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snorksHoxzer: you installed alsa drivers?06:55
HoxzerI use sound deamon06:55
snorksHoxzer: you might want to go for the esd plugin aswell, since ubuntu uses that by default06:55
Hoxzerother players can play the sound but they dont shot the video06:55
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snorksHoxzer: ok so you installed the eSound plugin for VLC?06:55
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Hoxzerno06:56
snorksHoxzer: What didy ou do then?06:56
reagleBRKLNi have a usb port, sometimes i plug a vfat mp3 player in, sometimes a ext3 external drive. how can i configure it to work properly? or rather, i keep the external drive fat32, because when its ext3 and i specify "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     autio" in /etc/fstab, it won't work06:56
darklinuxerh everybody06:56
snorkshi darklinuxer06:56
runehyancheng: That probably has something to do with the C-specifics in the configuration files.06:56
cheesie!redhat06:56
ubotucheesie: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:56
DarkEyenope06:56
cheesie!irc06:56
ubotuI guess irc is Internet Relay Chat. It is a virtual network with servers allowing connections from clients where many people connect and chat with each other related to Linux or even sex.06:56
darklinuxerh06:56
darklinuxerhow r u06:56
cheesiedarkeye it did work06:56
cheesieDark type !java06:56
DarkEyenot for me06:56
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runehyancheng: You could try to set nocindent as well.06:56
reagleBRKLNso i keep both fat32 and specify that in the fstab, but would like to plug in different file systems06:56
DarkEye!java06:56
ubotuI guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:56
cheesiethere06:56
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cheesiefollow them06:56
cheesieit takes ages06:56
cheesiebut works06:56
Hoxzersnorks: installed alsa06:57
darklinuxersnorks06:57
darklinuxer?06:57
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Hoxzer"apt-cache search vlc | grep eSound"06:57
Hoxzeris that the command?06:57
cheesie!clients06:57
ubotucheesie: I don't know06:57
snorksHoxzer: ok there's two alternatives then. Either disable the esd, or install the esd-output plugin for VLC06:57
cheesie!scripts06:57
ubotuNo idea, cheesie06:57
cheesiebye all06:57
cheesie!bye06:57
ubotucheesie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:57
cheesielol06:57
snorksHoxzer: I suggest disabling esd and use ALSA instead, as it's faster06:57
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snorksHoxzer: anyway, iof youy disalbe the daemon, you want to select alsaoupyt in VLC, or esd output if you dont disable it06:58
darklinuxerbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sht06:58
snorksHoxzer: /typo on :P06:58
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HoxzerSnorks: ok...06:58
darklinuxersht sht ts sht only sht06:58
snorksshhh06:59
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darklinuxer?06:59
HoxzerFailed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'06:59
snorkshm06:59
darklinuxer????????????????????06:59
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arachnionhello06:59
darklinuxerhello?06:59
darklinuxero ne ya06:59
arachnionI want to install a .rpm package06:59
arachnionso I need to alien it06:59
darklinuxerok06:59
darklinuxerok07:00
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HoxzerOk, I istalled esd plugin now I have sound07:00
arachnionbut where is alien ;) (I used to have this on MEPIS, which was also debian-based)07:00
feugan3333Hi all. If I have build a custom kernel (because I have more that 1GB of ram) and apt-get upgrades linux-image. Will it do the right thing, or will I need to recompile again?07:00
darklinuxerts sugar cane t tasted good07:00
darklinuxerhi07:00
darklinuxerthanks m good07:00
deFryskarachnion, what package ?07:00
arachnionLimeWire07:00
cvthow do i get permissions to delete files?07:00
cvtit says i cann't07:00
bur[n] erarachnion: you don't have alien?  if not, check synaptic to install it07:00
arachnionok bur[n] er07:01
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bur[n] ercvt: are you owner of it?07:01
cvti'm trying to remove some firefox searchplugins.07:01
Hoxzer.....07:01
Hoxzernow07:01
cvtyes07:01
deFrysklimewire can be easyly instaled locally07:01
darklinuxerright clck and delete07:01
Hoxzernow vlc users07:01
cvtthis is my pc07:01
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Hoxzerwe have problem07:01
snorksHoxzer: any results?07:01
ubuntutusudo bash to have permisions07:01
Hoxzerwe need to enable total fullscreen07:01
cvtdarkheart,07:01
pinucsetsomebody knows how to enable 5.1 sound in ubuntu stable? (nforce2)...07:01
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HoxzerSnorks: tell me how07:01
bur[n] erhrm... not so much my question ;)  what permissions are on it currently?07:01
deFryskno need to get rpm07:01
worrellscvt, use sudo to remove the file07:01
BlueEagleubuntutu: sudo -i will give you a root login shell.07:01
worrellssudo rm <filename>07:01
bur[n] eror what worrells said ;)07:01
darklinuxerla la la la07:01
ubuntutusorry07:01
cvtdarkheart, it says i don't have permission07:01
darklinuxerla la la07:01
snorksHoxzer: rightclick on the video output area thingy07:01
FraeonGrrr...anyone got an idea what would be causing the fact that Breezy just doesn't want to go online?07:02
snorksHoxzer: chose fullscreen. alternatively, double click on the video07:02
bur[n] erFraeon: we need some more info... got an ip?07:02
worrellscvt, what is the exact error?07:02
Hoxzersnorks: but its not total :E07:02
HoxzerI can still see the bars07:02
Hoxzertotem can do it without bars07:02
snorksHoxzer: right-clicking and chosing fullscreen should fix that07:02
cvtAccess denied to /home/brian/.local/share/trash/files/yahoo.gif07:02
cvterror message verbatum07:03
Hoxzersnorks: did :E07:03
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worrellsdo this: ls -la /home/brian/.local/share/trash/files/yahoo.gif07:03
HoxzerI still see bars07:03
Fraeonbur[n] er, It's a homepna connection... AMD PCNet 79C978... I tried configuring /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf to make it work like it I did in Hoary...07:03
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Fraeon...but it just doesn't work.07:03
cvtverbatim07:03
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snorksHoxzer: hm. but that should be a VLC related issue anyways, browsing the preferences might yield results07:03
darklinuxercan you speak07:03
bur[n] erPNA == powerline?07:03
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snorksHoxzer: I don't watch alot of movies :P07:03
Hoxzer:D07:03
darklinuxerhave u got a07:03
DarkEye!repositories07:03
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:04
darklinuxermouth07:04
HoxzerI see07:04
darklinuxerr u humans07:04
bur[n] erFraeon: you have to get the modules built for the new kernel07:04
darklinuxerno  thnk07:04
darklinuxersee you my messeges07:04
darklinuxersorry07:04
snorksyes07:04
snorksbut your "messages" makes no sense darklinuxer07:04
FraeonSo, the pcnet32 module that comes with the preview isn't built for Breezy?07:04
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FraeonIt's a fresh install07:04
darklinuxer thnk so07:04
darklinuxersnorks07:04
worrellscvt, still there?07:04
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snorksdarklinuxer: well I don't think so07:05
darklinuxereeeeeeeee07:05
cvtworrells, yes07:05
bloodnesssometimes my menu.lst changes how can i keep it without change07:05
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darklinuxerbloodness07:05
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darklinuxergerzek07:05
FraeonSo...any ideas?07:05
darklinuxeryhahahha07:05
pinucset!repository07:05
ubotupinucset: No idea07:05
pinucsetok... :)07:05
cvti don't get it07:05
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bloodnessdarklinuxer ?07:06
darklinuxerezikmi07:06
cvtwhy can't i just delete the files?07:06
cvtthis is my pc07:06
worrellseven with sudo, it still denies you?07:06
bloodnessaha trkm07:06
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FraeonWhat should I try? I tried adding the card to /etc/interfaces too, but no...that doesn't work either.07:06
cvtworrells, where's sudo?07:06
darklinuxerturk olduunu nas da bell edyosun07:06
bloodnessdark benim menu.lst deiiyo arada07:06
darklinuxerwar ya07:06
bur[n] ercvt: run "gksudo nautilus" and you can07:06
darklinuxerok07:06
bloodnessnasl deimemesini salayabilirim07:06
Flying-Penguinwhats with the diff langs?07:06
darklinuxerne iin war burda07:06
worrellssudo is a standard utility that lets you run a command as root07:06
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Seveasdarklinuxer, bloodness stick to english in here please07:06
bur[n] ercvt: be very careful when deleting files that way... you have full root permissions07:06
bloodnesssometimes my menu.lst changes how can i keep it without change07:07
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worrellswhat bur[n] er said07:07
worrellsI concur07:07
Seveasbloodness, every kernel upgrade triggers a change07:07
worrellsbe sure that's what you want to do07:07
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darklinuxert doesny matter to you seveas07:07
snorkshe's a dark linuxer07:07
bloodnesshmm07:07
Flying-Penguinbloodness, you are freaking COOL07:07
worrellstry the following07:07
worrellssudo rm /home/brian/.local/share/trash/files/yahoo.gif07:07
snorkslol07:07
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darklinuxerthank u u soo07:07
bloodnessthnx seveas07:07
Seveasdarklinuxer, this channel is english. EOD.07:07
darklinuxereee07:08
worrellsit will ask you for your password07:08
FraeonDrrrt. Any ideas other than adding lines to /etc/modules and /etc/interfaces?07:08
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FraeonThis thing just refuses to work.07:08
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darklinuxerenglsh mi07:08
darklinuxereee07:08
Fanskapethmm anyone uses munin here?07:08
darklinuxerbloodnes what is you rname07:08
ubuntutui have 97 % of ram used what i can do to reduce it07:08
bur[n] erubuntutu: close stuff ;)07:09
bloodnessubuntu07:09
deFrysk!ram07:09
Seveasubuntutu, that's ok, linux preloads as much as possible into ram07:09
ubotudeFrysk: Do they come in packets of five?07:09
Flying-Penguincould someone that speaks darklinuxer tell him of a "his lang" channle?07:09
Hoxzerwhat was the command to check my ide devices?07:09
bloodnessyou can buy ram07:09
bloodness:)07:09
Seveasthat's why you have a swap :)07:09
bur[n] erswap == slow though07:09
darklinuxer:=07:09
darklinuxer=}07:09
ubuntutui want to keep free as07:09
deFryskubuntutu, unused ram is wasted ram07:09
darklinuxerhhhahhah07:09
Seveasdarklinuxer, behave in here ar leave please07:09
bur[n] ereven the fastest sata hard drive is not as fast as even slow ram07:09
worrellscvt, that should be done in a terminal window.07:09
erUSULubuntutu, why do you want to reduce it07:09
darklinuxerblooodness07:09
FraeonI'd switch distros, but I'm not at all sure if the problem persists there too.07:09
darklinuxerbunnar ne i ya07:10
erUSUL?07:10
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FraeonSince 2.6.x, homePNA connections have been causing nothing but grief07:10
ubuntutubecause i want to keep ram for other aplication07:10
bur[n] erthank you ;)07:10
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snorksubuntutu: the OS controls RAM good enough. As he said, unused RAM is a waste. If something makes your machine lag, then it should be fixed, but if you don't notice lag be ok with it :P07:10
Seveasright the a-hole was banned before but avoids tehe ban07:10
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Flying-Penguinubuntutu: it is trying to utilise your specs07:11
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cvtworrells, i deleted the files successfully but now do i have to do anything but close it?07:11
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Flying-Penguinubuntutu: if you where playing a game and started to get bad fps and you noticed you had 40% cpu load wouln't you be pissed???07:11
bur[n] eris RAM cached almost to 100% on purpose???  I was always curious of that07:11
Seveasbur[n] er, yes that is on purpose07:11
Flying-Penguinits system utlization... I cant spell verry well07:12
bur[n] erlinux ram usage is so hard for me to grasp... the numbers don't add up for virual ram, ram, that other column...07:12
deFryskram is soo much faster than your hd so why not use it ?07:12
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ubuntutui must set specs to my amount of ram no?07:12
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Flying-Penguinubuntutu: your ram is used for a reason07:12
Flying-Penguinubuntutu: in order to help linux(ubuntu) run faster it is using all your ram07:12
deFryskubuntutu, the se how little ram i use thing is depreciated ;p07:13
ubuntutuyes but when i recompile my kernel this rate decrease07:13
Flying-Penguinubuntutu: the second a program needs ran ubuntu will give some up!!!07:13
Flying-Penguinram*07:13
BlueEagleubuntutu: Watch how much is used for cache. Unless you're starting to write cache information to swap (or swap data at all while you've still got massive amounts of cache) then you can start to worry.07:14
Flying-Penguinubuntutu: if it isn't doing this right... than sorry I buged you07:14
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Hoxzercan somebody help me to get vlc to total full screen so I dont need to wach those bars :E07:14
BlueEagleehh.. then you don't need to worry.07:14
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deFryskubuntutu, memorie managent of linux is exelent just take our word for it07:14
deFryskmy spelling however.... :s07:15
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ubuntutuim so bad in english soory ;)07:15
BlueEagledefrysk: :)07:15
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Flying-Penguinubuntutu: its ok! you are better than me at what ever lang you speak I only speak one! we internet people are used to it07:16
ubuntuturight i progres07:16
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humboltupdating from hoary to breezy, is that already supposed to work just fine?07:17
Hoxzerhow I can check my IDE devices?07:17
Hoxzerwhat is what07:17
humboltdid networkmagic make it into breezy?07:17
BlueEaglehoxzer: sudo fdisk -l07:17
deFryskhumbolt, works fine but not absolutely stable yet07:18
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BlueEaglehoxzer: Mount a CD in the CD drive and leave the DVD drive empty to figure out which is which.07:18
humboltdeFrysk: what is unstable for example?07:18
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humboltdeFrysk: is there anything grave?07:19
deFryskhumbolt, in my experience rhythmbox is not ready07:19
deFryskhumbolt, nothing grave on my box nope07:19
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humboltdoes anybody know about networkmagick in breezy?07:19
deFryskhumbolt, its not07:19
deFryskin07:19
lakcajHoxzer, dmesg | grep hda && cat /etc/fstab07:19
lakcajHoxzer, dmesg | grep hd && cat /etc/fstab07:20
lakcajthe second one07:20
johmono is broken in breezy, right?07:20
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FraeonAnyone else running Breezy on a homepna connection?07:20
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humboltso how do I configure wlans in breezy?07:21
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bur[n] erhumbolt: via the panel applet07:22
humboltwhat about ifplugd, ...07:22
No1Vikinglakcaj: dmesg | grep hd; cat /etc/fstab also works  =)07:22
No1Vikinglakcaj: See the ; instead of &&?07:23
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tyoungGreetings All.  I've got Hoary on a laptop, and wondered if anybody could point me to how to get the wireless network to come up without having to go through the Network Admin applet?07:23
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Hoxzereh...07:24
Hoxzerwho was that amd64 guy?07:25
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snorks<-07:25
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Hoxzeryeah, next thing you need to help me is to get DVD's playable07:25
Flying-Penguinso... how is linux support for AMDx2 64???07:26
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HoxzerSnorks: what mediplayer do you use for dvd's?07:26
jaxhello, i have question.. , i have speedtouch modem, i'm newbie, ubuntu : have aleady installed (my english is bad sorry)07:26
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tyoungHoxzer - check out ubuntuguide.org, their instructions worked for me on DVD's.07:27
snorksHoxzer: haven't tried yet. This comp don't have dvd player07:27
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Flying-Penguinjax: whats your native lang?07:27
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tyoungoops.07:27
Hoxzertyoung: problem  is in amd64 version :(07:27
aeolistasta na pane decadent07:27
snorksHoxzer: however, if i get one, and trying it, i would probably use vlc07:27
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FraeonI hate repeating myself but my problem is this: I try to activating my homepna connection but adding the usual lines to /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf do not work and I also tried enabling the card through the Gnome networking to no avail. I've also tried putting "iface eth1 inet dhcp" on /etc/interfaces but it STILL refuses to connect anywhere. /sbin/dhclient just spits "No DHCPREQUEST received". This is a clean x86 32-bit Bre07:27
Fraeonezy Preview install and do not see what the problem is here. Ideas?07:27
jaxFlying-Penguin french07:27
NanoBCNhi people. I'm experiencing very weird problems with FTP clients07:27
Flying-Penguinjax: like, what language do you speak?07:27
NanoBCNno way to connect to any ftp server07:28
neymacalgum j usou mondo para fazer backup do sistema?07:28
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NanoBCNnor through gftp nor command line07:28
bur[n] erNanoBCN: maybe it's your server?  anyway, what errors?07:28
neymacdid anyone use mondo to backup the system?07:28
jaxFlying-Penguin french07:28
bur[n] ermondo?07:28
NanoBCNbur[n] er, no, I'm the client and cannot connect to any server07:29
NanoBCNdebian, x11, gnome... noone07:29
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bur[n] erNanoBCN: same server trying everytime?07:29
bur[n] eryou can't connect at all?07:29
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NanoBCNbur[n] er, I cannot connect at all07:30
NanoBCNno where07:30
bur[n] erNanoBCN: firewall?07:30
bur[n] erNanoBCN: maybe the servers you are trying to connect to are pasv and you're not07:30
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Flying-Penguinjax: you might want to try #ubuntu-fr it could be easyer, but since you do speak english and there are more people in here, you are welcome (online people know bad english)07:30
jaxok thanks07:31
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joshyhi, i'm wondering how to get dhclient running at boot, right now I have to type it in after I loggin.07:31
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NanoBCNbur[n] er, nop, it's not that the problem, I'm affraid07:32
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NanoBCNbur[n] er, can you connect to ftp.debian.org?07:32
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bur[n] eryeah07:32
bur[n] erjust fine :)07:32
poypoyI'm stuck in 60hz with no idea how to change it (only 60hz in the resolution menu) and i'm gonna collapse soon, any ideas where/how to add more?07:32
maehey does anyone know, does that new ipod nano use flash memory or still the microdrive?07:33
bloodnesswhere can i get  Smeg?07:33
bloodnesswhere can i get  Smeg menu editor?07:33
SanderDpoypoy: In /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can adjust the monitor settings.07:33
NanoBCNbur[n] er, well, no luck at all for me...07:33
NanoBCN:S07:33
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deFryskpoypoy, is your monitor recognized in xorg.conf ?07:33
poypoyErmm.... Identifier"Generic Monitor"07:33
poypoyI guess not...07:33
deFryskthats a "no"07:33
humboltI cannot find a apt.conf file in ubuntu. How do I make ubuntu aware that I want change to breezy release. Is adding the sources enough?07:34
deFryskfind your specs of the monitor07:34
deFryskhoriz and vert freq07:34
bur[n] erNanoBCN: you on the internet at all?  can you ping ftp.debian.org07:34
poypoyYup07:34
snorksafk07:34
deFryskpoypoy, and correct them (if needed07:34
poypoymonitor OSD's rule :)07:34
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deFryskpoypoy, best way to correct them is using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:35
poypoyok, I corrected xorg.conf07:35
poypoyIt requires restart or?07:35
NanoBCNbur[n] er, yes, I can ping it, that's the weird thing07:36
deFryskok restart x07:36
bur[n] erNanoBCN: can you telnet on port 21?07:36
deFryskctrl alt backspace07:36
poypoyThankies :)07:36
deFrysk"fingers crossed"07:36
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NanoBCNbur[n] er, no reply07:37
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Tobahas anyone here got a D-Link DWL-G630 to work?07:37
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Tobait's not on the wirelss page07:37
andreas__hi :-)07:37
Tobabut everything else on there that's D-Link is fine07:37
bur[n] eris there a way I can compress an entire filesystem to a .iso like an 'image' ??07:37
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bur[n] erNanoBCN: firewalled man... i swear07:37
Hoxzer:DD07:38
bur[n] erNanoBCN: or woman ;)07:38
Hoxzerit plays07:38
Hoxzerlol07:38
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bloodnesswhere can i get  Smeg menu editor?07:38
bur[n] erbloodness: synaptic07:38
deFryskbloodness, in breezy?07:38
bloodnessno07:38
bloodnessnot breezy07:38
bur[n] erthen you can't yet ;)07:38
NanoBCNbur[n] er, can't be, it's my home connection, firestarter open and nothing is there, never put a single block...07:38
NanoBCNtoo weird07:38
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deFrysk!smeg07:38
ubotuI guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:38
deFryskthere you go07:39
bur[n] erNanoBCN: home router might not be allowing port 21 traffic?07:39
bloodnessi will try07:39
bloodnessthnx07:39
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reiki_workthe install from backports appears broken... a bad dependancy07:39
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reiki_work^^^ referring to smeg07:39
NanoBCNbur[n] er, I even redirected all incoming traffic for 21 port to this pc07:39
NanoBCNweird :)07:39
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deFryskreiki, wait for breezy its in there by default07:40
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bur[n] erNanoBCN: incoming means nothing07:40
bur[n] eryou're outgoing07:40
bur[n] erNanoBCN: how bout ftp sites not on port 21?07:40
bur[n] er:)07:40
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init_6anyone boot ubuntu with raid0?07:41
jkroghI'd suggest that you use something else..07:41
jkroghscp perhaps.07:41
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rob_pbur[n] er:  "mkisofs -o image.iso -JRVv /path/to/your_files" will create an iso image called, "image.iso" of the directory (and subdirs) that you specify.  Is that what you were looking for?07:41
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bur[n] ersomewhat...07:42
cvtdoes anyone know to get Galaga for ubuntu?07:42
cvtit comes with knoppix but i'd lke it07:42
cvtlike07:42
bur[n] errob_p: pretend I have an installed system... I want to back it up to a direct image that can be restored simply... ideally via one commmand... it would also be nice if I could qemu it... so .iso was preferrable ;)07:42
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bur[n] erthink .iso would be good for that?07:43
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jkroghcvt: It's probably called something else.. wing, xgalaga07:43
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shinucan 'mount' mount cue/bin files?07:44
init_6is there some magic trick to get ubuntu to boot a raid 0 install?07:44
poypoyWell, after ctrlaltbackspace the only thing I figured out how to do was sudo shutdown now :S... Anyway, I'm back with more dumbass questions: first being my wlan is fine, but it sometimes takes ages before it will connect, or before it loads a page... a bit tempermental... any ideas?07:44
bloodnessi downloaded smeg.deb07:45
Hoxzerif I have somekind of "untitled window" how should I close it? :/07:45
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bloodnessi downloaded smeg.deb07:45
bloodnesshow can i install it07:45
deFryskbloodness, dpkg -u blah07:45
rob_pbur[n] er:  Not sure.  Sorry!  However, you might be able to accomplish it rdiff-backup.  Google it.  It's easy to find.  Maybe their site will have the info you need to make it work.07:45
deFrysk-i sorry07:45
deFryskbloodness, dpkg -i blah07:45
deFrysksudo he ;p07:45
candlelightinit_6, if the raid 0 is by sil3112 for SATA, there's a howto at ubuntuforums.org07:46
bloodnessblah?07:46
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deFryskblah = <package>07:46
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bloodness:)))))07:46
bur[n] errob_p: thanks rob... i appreciate it.. (i might just use norton ghost... we'll see)07:46
rob_pbur[n] er:  there's always that :-)07:46
bloodnessit gives error07:48
cvtdo you know what version of java i need?07:48
bloodnesssmeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:07:48
bloodness??07:48
deFryskbloodness, sudo apt-get install python-xdg07:48
cvtLinux RPM [self-extracting file] ?07:48
deFryskand try again07:49
poypoynm that, but.. fe, when I'm typing in the find box for firefox and it goes red (error beep) it plays it using the system beep, and not via sound... Can't figure out where to change this one :|07:49
bloodnessit say it is newest version07:49
deFryskbloodness, where did you get the .deb from ?07:50
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bloodnesshttp://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/07:50
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deFryskhttp://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/latest/smeg.deb this one bloodness ?07:51
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bloodnessyes07:51
rainmakerhi guys, im thinking of giving ubuntu another try again but i find the sudo thing annoying07:51
rainmakeris there a way to get rid of it?07:51
pluffsywhat is annoying with typing sudo -s?07:51
jhaasudo passwd root07:51
candlelightrainmaker, sudo passwd root07:52
jhaathen give a new password07:52
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pussfelleryou can give root a password and then just use that07:52
rainmakerthen you can use su - in the console?07:52
jhaafirst it needs your password ofcourse07:52
deFryskbloodness, sudo apt-get install PyGTK python-glade207:52
jhaayes07:52
rainmakerwhoho07:52
rainmaker^^07:52
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deFryskbloodness, and try again07:53
pluffsybtw again. anyone here running the preview? how stable is it? is preview like a beta version or more alfa quality?07:53
bloodnessE: Couldn't find package PyGTK07:53
pluffsyis it stable for mainstream desktop use?07:53
rainmakeroh, and btw can we upgrade to the latest test version? wich was released yesterday or something?07:53
deFryskbloodness, sudo apt-get install pygtk python-glade207:53
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jhaapluffsy runs fine on my laptop07:53
mz2pluffsy, have been running breezy for a good month now, with little problems (even less so for the last few weeks)07:53
jhaaeverything works07:53
guardianxhow do i view iso/bin movie files without burning it to cd on ubuntu07:53
bloodnessE: Couldn't find package pygtk07:53
bloodnessfrysk07:54
Alfa|WERKpluffsy, please don't trigger my alert by spelling "alpha" wrong..07:54
pluffsyjhaa: alright sounds great, lots of new neat things in it. I'm getting a powerbook g3 on monday that I wanna use for ubuntu.07:54
bloodnesswe can try anaother installer07:54
bloodnesstar.gz07:54
bloodness?07:54
deFryskbloodness, download this http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg07:54
pluffsyAlfa|WERK: haha. sorry. it's spelled like that in swedish.07:54
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Alfa|WERKno kiddin07:54
Alfa|WERKi never knew that07:54
Alfa|WERK:)07:55
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rainmakerswedish :) im swedish :p07:55
pluffsyAlfa|WERK:  why are you such an asshole? oh wait the happy smiley. hmm07:55
Alfa|WERKhmm indeed07:55
guardianxhow do i view iso/bin movie files without burning it to cd on ubuntu07:55
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Seveasalfa is a brand of beer07:56
Tomcat_guardianx: iso or cue/bin?07:56
deFryskbloodness, you there ?07:56
Tomcat_guardianx: ISOs can be mounted like filesystems.07:56
SeveasTomcat_, vcd isos not iirc :)07:56
Alfa|WERKi hope it's a good one07:56
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Tomcat_Seveas: Worked in Windows with Daemon Tools ;)07:57
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bloodnessok07:57
Seveasmplayer and/or vlc are able to play iso's directly iirc07:57
bloodnessi dled07:57
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guardianxhow do i mount iso and bin riles?07:57
SeveasAlfa|WERK, no it sucks ;)07:57
guardianxtomcat_ ; how do i mount it?07:57
Seveasguardianx, mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint07:57
rainmakercan we update to the preview edition inside ubuntu?07:57
deFryskbloodness, now run it07:57
Tomcat_-o loop.... was searching for that. :)07:57
Alfa|WERKhaha07:57
bloodness./installsmeg ?07:58
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deFryskbloodness, yup07:58
guardianxhow do i view bin/cue  file movies?07:58
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triggrainmaker: change your repositories in sources.list to breezy instead of hoary, then sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:58
bloodnessit need permisson07:59
Tomcat_guardianx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22262&highlight=bin+cue07:59
rainmakerthx trigg07:59
bloodnessi will give 755?07:59
deFrysksudo ./installsmeg07:59
humboltbreezy is compiled with gcc4. that means I have to necessarily update all packages, right?07:59
guardianxhow would i mount the iso if the iso is on a window server....08:00
bloodnesssudo: ./installsmeg: command not found08:00
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dannymguardianx: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /some/mountpoint08:00
bloodness:(08:00
dannymguardianx: what is a window server ?08:00
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guardianxthe file is on a window xp system08:01
deFryskchmod +x installsmeg08:01
guardianxi have already network it and i can see the file on ubuntu08:01
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dannymguardianx: use cifs or smbfs to mount it08:01
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dannymguardianx: good :)08:01
dannymguardianx: copy it over ? :)08:01
bloodnessok it works08:01
deFryskcool08:01
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Tomcat_guardianx: Install the smbfs package, then do "mount //<server>/path/blah.iso /some/mountpoint"08:01
deFryskbloodness, it needs some backported packages , thats why the .deb did not work this script fixes that08:02
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bloodnesshmm ok08:02
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dannymhmmm, how do I find the source used for a deb file ?08:04
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dannymi.e. I have some package installed with synaptic, and want to get back to the source code to mess things08:04
deFryskdannym, apt-get source08:04
dannym(later to make a new  package with it)08:04
bloodnessi restart gnome with ctrl alt backspace?08:04
deFryskdannym, apt-get source -b08:05
guardianxblah scew this..... i cant take linux i'm giving up08:05
deFryskbloodness, why ?08:05
guardianxlaters08:05
dannymDeFrysk: I see :)08:05
dannymDeFrysk: thanks08:05
karljpanyone know how to get totem to play files made with mencode -ovc lavc?08:05
cvtis there a particular typing tutor for linux that you know ?08:05
Tomcat_lol that guy was funny. :o08:05
karljpit writes them as FMP4 which apparrently totem doesn' tknow about?08:05
bloodnessi dont know i read this ubuntuguide.com :)))))08:05
deFryskcvt, gtypist I believe08:05
CookedGryphonYAh my winmodem is working!!!!08:05
bloodnessbut it works now it is not need i think08:06
CookedGryphonstill dunno what i did tho... so it may not be tomorrow08:06
deFryskbloodness, dont read ubuntuguide08:06
poypoyIs there any decent linux driver resources? It's becoming a very hard task :\08:06
bloodnesswhy08:06
deFryskubuntuguide = el crappo08:06
deFrysk!ubuntuguide08:06
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.08:06
triggkarljp: mencoder source.avi --ffourcc DX50 -o new.avi08:06
bloodnessok08:06
karljpwell, that's not quite the same thing, but sure I guess :)08:06
deFryskbloodness, saves me some typing ;p08:07
Sexyhi there!08:07
karljpbasically, is there a better way of doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35726.html08:07
init_6interesting issue:   Boot ubuntu.  FSCK fails and wants help, but usb hasn't loaded my keyboard so can't type anything.  Workaround?08:07
karljpie, fixing totem, rather than fixing the avi08:07
Sexyi have a problem with tcl, can anyone help me please?08:07
bloodness:)08:07
triggkarljp: totem hasn't been updated yet - FMP4 is a relatively new code08:07
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karljpfair enough then, thanks trigg08:07
dannymdefrysk: hmm, how is the remainder of the syntax ?08:07
deFrysk!ubuntuforums08:07
ubotudeFrysk: Are you on ritalin?08:07
dannymdefrysk: I tried f.e. "apt-get source libgtk-2.0-0"08:07
deFryskaubotu almost08:08
karljpI was under the impression that it was the same format, only it was a new code letter08:08
dannymdefrysk: but note that I do not have the deb file in the same dir because synaptic took care of installing it08:08
Sonny_WertzikAnybody even use xine? I need a lil' help08:08
Sexyi run eggdrop but when i run a script ex: !google from irc it blocks and08:08
deFryskdannym, apt-get install build-essential08:08
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Sexyi run eggdrop but when i run a script ex: !google from irc it blocks08:08
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triggkarljp: new code letter - but it is what tells the media player how to decode the avi08:08
Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know why xine 0.99.3 locks up when i switch to fullscreen??08:09
suninhadoes anyone have problems with tcl?08:09
deFryskdannym, also apt-get install fakeroot (in case build-essential does not provide it)08:09
triggkarljp: FMP4 is specific to lavc mpeg4 implementation08:09
karljpcoolio. is this the sort of hting that is going to turn up in a backports for totem, or are my choices: a) use a different file format b) make totem from source?08:09
rainmakeris it possible to choose wich packages to install when installing ubuntu?08:10
karljpsuninha, don't use such and archaic irc script08:10
karljptoo late08:10
karljpsif tcl08:10
deFryskrainmaker, minimum and a normal install08:10
bloodnesshow can i delete a folder :))),08:10
rainmaker:(08:10
dannymdefrysk: ok, done that :)08:10
deFryskrainmaker, minimal is without x08:10
rainmakeri know08:10
rainmakerwould be a cool feature to the next installer :)08:11
triggbloodness: rm -rf /folder08:11
bloodnessthnx08:11
deFryskrainmaker, dont think so08:11
deFryskits a way to screw up your install08:11
rainmakerwhats wrong with that?08:11
rainmakerits a way of removing unneeded programs08:11
dannymdeFrysk: ok, and next ? :)08:11
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deFryskwhat do you wish to build ?08:11
CookedGryphontrigg, what does the f do there?i jsut use rm -r08:12
karljpr is recursive08:12
karljpf is force08:12
karljpf will remove write protected files in the directories below08:12
CookedGryphontrigg, i kno i couldlook it up in the man pages.. but i'm lazy08:12
dannymdeFrysk: I want to patch gtk2 a bit08:12
CookedGryphonah right, thanks08:12
rainmakerdeFrysk well it would be nice08:12
karljpas long as you have appropriate writes higher up the tree08:12
triggf = force08:12
rainmakerknowing what it installs on your system08:12
rob_pbloodness:  just be careful with, "rm -rf" in conjunction with sudo because one wrong move and you can ruin your system!08:12
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rainmakerbut ubuntu isnt bloated.. yet that is. So I'll be fine08:13
deFryskdannym, good luck hehe08:13
dannymdeFrysk: i.e. libgtk2.0-0 version 2.8.3-0ubuntu108:13
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dannymdeFrysk: i.yeah, the actual task of patching it is easy :)08:13
Hoxzercan somebody advice me how to get TV-out work with nvidia card?08:13
triggf keeps you from having to say "Y" anytime there is a read-only file08:13
deFryskdannym, dunno much about that08:13
dannymdeFrysk: however I'm quite new in debian, so I dont how how to make it i.e. prepare the source directory like it did when building the binary package already present08:13
deFryskdannym, with fakeroot you can make the packages locally , no root needed08:14
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deFryskfakeroot apt-get source <package>08:15
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deFryskI think08:15
misterdiffhi all. i'm having problems with my webcam. "dmesg" detects it and registers it but then when i go to gnome-meeting the program doesn't see the webcam08:15
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dannymdeFrysk: ok, will try ... thanks :)08:15
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CookedGryphonI'm trying to rip mp3s with sound juicer, but it comes up can't create Gstreamer encoder ((null))08:15
cvthow do i get java?08:16
bloodnessok thnx rob_p i will be careful08:16
cvti dl'ed it i think08:16
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deFryskdannym, apt-get build-dep <package> install the dependencies needed to be abkle to compile the .deb and install it08:16
lsuactiafnerCookedGryphon : use abcde to rip08:16
cvtbut i don't know how to install it08:16
bloodnessgood bye everyone08:17
lsuactiafnerCookedGryphon : nice -n -6 abcde -l -N -o mp3,ogg -p -V -w Draconis08:17
DewDudeshould i have run apt-get dist-upgrade in console mode or was it ok to run it in Konsole?08:17
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CookedGryphonlsuactiafner, what does that do different, well apart from work possibly08:17
lsuactiafnerCookedGryphon : auto names and writes tags ect08:17
deFryskDewDude, any commanline will do ;)08:17
gusto5hello everyone. How do i make partitions from ubuntu to allow a windows install on a fat32 partition?08:17
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CookedGryphonso does sound juicer08:17
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lsuactiafneryeh but abcde works well08:17
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abantaCan anyone help me with a compiling error?08:18
trigggusto5: try installing gparted08:18
gusto5trigg, ok08:18
lsuactiafneryou will have a ripped cd in 5 minutes from now if you apt-get install abcde08:18
deFryskabanta, = root !!! ?08:18
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hector__hola08:18
abantaI'm a newbie, sorry08:18
dhjohnson3hello08:18
hector__hello08:18
deFryskabanta, newbies dont compile08:18
triggabanta: what's your error?08:18
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lsuactiafnerabanta : what program are you compiling?08:19
hector__chile08:19
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dhjohnson3can anyone tell me what the "Preview" means in terms of the new Breezy release?08:19
lsuactiafnerhave you tried apt-cache search program and apt-get install program ?08:19
karljpit means it's not fully ready08:19
CookedGryphonlsuactiafner, kk, hanks, sound juicer is a bit slow, well it was when ripping ogg08:19
Seveasabanta, stop doing regular things as root.08:19
WhiteRabbitabanta, rofl & he called you a newbie08:19
karljpbut it should give you a pretty good idea of what will come in breezy08:19
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, it means it aint finished yet08:19
Seveasespecially irc08:19
lsuactiafnerbut once they can compile they aint newbs08:19
lsuactiafnerso let him try compiling if he wants, i already mentioned apt-get08:19
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dhjohnson3so like beta?08:20
dannymdeFrysk_: I  think my problem is more basic :)08:20
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karljpdhjohnson3, yep08:20
CookedGryphonyeah08:20
CookedGryphonwhat's rue 1st name dhjohnson3 ?08:20
dannymdeFrysk_: I think I need to add some repository for sources first08:20
dannymdeFrysk_: I is there one for ubuntu breezy ?08:20
lsuactiafnerCookedGryphon : that command i gave encodes to ogg and mp3 and uses very little diskspace, however another command will be quicker, mp3 only08:20
lsuactiafnerbbl08:20
humboltwill my skype still work in breezy? It depends on a certain librarys which now are compiled with gcc4. But I guess skype is compiled with gcc3. So will this still work. Can a gcc3 app run with a gcc4 lib?08:20
Seveashumbolt, not if they use c++08:21
dhjohnson3gryphon:  david08:21
no0obI've an external disk in fat32, it works fine but some characters arent displayed correctly (because of utf8 I guess)08:21
Seveaswhich skype uses08:21
WhiteRabbithumbolt, you can use both gcc3 & gcc4 in breezy08:21
abantacat /opt/zd1211/src/zddevlist | awk -f /opt/zd1211/src/zddevlist.awk > /opt/zd1211/src/zddevlist.h08:21
abantamake: *** [/opt/zd1211/src/zddevlist.h]  Error 108:21
defrysk_dannym, its set to sources by default08:21
dannymdeFrysk_: no, I have them. however, doesnt work :( it says it doesnt find the source package08:21
abantathat is the error, lsuactiafner08:21
karljpno0ob, you just have to live with that08:21
dannymdeFrysk_: yeah08:21
WhiteRabbithumbolt, the default use would of course be gcc4 while gcc3 is there for legacy support08:21
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abantaI have the kernel headers and gcc installed08:21
karljpunless you want to change all of of ubuntu to match the charset in fat3208:21
karljpwell, you can get really tricky with mount stuff08:21
defrysk_dannym, apt-cache find <package>08:21
dannymdeFrysk_: do you have an example argument (i.e. package) for apt-get source so I can test whether it works or not at all ?08:21
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defrysk_dannym, and see if its there08:22
karljpbut I wouldn't want to be the one experimenting with it :)08:22
no0obkarljp, can I just mount it in an other way?08:22
dannymdeFrysk_: ok08:22
Seveaskarljp, there's an easy mount option to not use utf-808:22
humboltDepends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4) | qt (>= 3.2)08:22
Hoxzercan somebody help me to setup tv out with nvidia card?08:22
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, ah that's okay then, thought u might have been sum1 i knew08:22
defrysk_dannym, may I advise you to read man apt-get ?08:22
abantaCan I get a 3com driver compiled?08:22
no0obSeveas, which is?08:22
gusto5trigg, gparted wont let me make new partitions. why is that?08:22
defrysk_it explains most of your questions08:22
dannymdefrysk_: sure :)08:23
dannymdefrysk_: thanks08:23
defrysk_dannym, and use fakeroot for building sources08:23
triggHoxzer: try this  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=nvidia+tv-out08:23
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dhjohnson3i wanted to set up something like the fast user switching that comes wint WinXP...a friend said something about another X and F8...any idea on what he might have been talking about and how to do that08:23
dannymdefrysk_: okay08:23
HoxzerTrigg: tried :(08:23
trigggusto5: do you have any free space on your harddisk?08:23
Hoxzeramd64 has no nvtv08:23
triggHoxzer: sorry - that's all I got - I use ATI08:24
gusto5trigg, yes, but the free space is currently allocated to my ext3 partition for ubuntu08:24
humboltas far as I remember, I had to install this to make it work: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.208:24
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WhiteRabbitavoid building the debug packages when compiling also!08:24
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, applications . system tools, new login08:24
trigggusto5: you will have to shrink your ext3 partition08:24
poypoyCan anyone notify me upon the name of the package manager (synaptic or something similar, (tried synaptic, didnt work)08:24
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, then use ctrl alt and f7 and f to switch08:24
sexysex08:24
humboltSeveas: as far as I remember, I had to install this to make it work: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.208:24
trigggusto5: the partition usually has to be unmounted.08:25
defrysk_dannym, also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html08:25
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, u can also switch to console terminals using f 1-608:25
poypoynm, that was dumb, got it now :P08:25
trigggusto5: is it your home or / partition?08:25
sexyHi what is your name08:25
gusto5trigg, yes, its my / partition08:25
no0obI checked the mount option, and I saw this : iocharset=utf808:25
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trigggusto5: a good idea is to download a "live" cd that has either qtparted or gparted, then do the operation from there08:26
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sexyWhere do u live08:26
no0obI know how to use the /etc/fstab file, but don't know anything about the gnome automounter, and how to edit it08:26
dhjohnson3cg:  will that lock the other session?\08:26
gusto5trigg, okie08:26
no0obwhere are these default options defined?08:26
trigggusto5: I am not sure if the ubuntu cd has it, but I know knoppix has qtparted08:26
CookedGryphonsound juicer comes up can't create Gstreamer encoder ((null)), how can i get it to work anyway, i kno ppl have suggested alternative rippers but i'm using up all my download bandwidth atm anyway08:26
humboltSeveas: no, it was this: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.208:27
triggCookedGryphon: it sounds like you don't have the gstreamer-mp3 package installed08:27
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, wondershaper would be a nice add for someone like you then08:27
dannymdefrysk_: ok, thank you :)08:27
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gusto5alrighty. thanks trigg08:27
no0obI can't believe nobody knows08:27
humboltSeveas: So, will skype work, when it needs libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 to work?08:27
dhjohnson3CookedGryphon, will that leave the other session locked?08:27
Seveashumbolt, I *think* it will fail, but I never used skype08:28
triggno0ob: gnome uses hald, find the hald conf file08:28
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, i think so, it asks 4 ure password when u come back to it08:28
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no0obtrigg, I'll try that, thanks08:28
CookedGryphontrigg, i have gstreamer-all installed, and i have lame installed08:28
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, would you happen to have installed gstreamer0.8-mad yet08:28
CookedGryphonWhiteRabbit, wondershaper?08:28
humboltSeveas: And is there a way to make it work again, other than recompiling it?08:29
CookedGryphonoh jsut a minute! i'm thinking of my other computer, damn!!08:29
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funkyHatCookedGryphon, abcde is much better than soundjuicer, and is tiny08:29
triggno0ob: /etc/hal/hald.conf08:29
CookedGryphoni don't have gstreamer on this one yet, foolish chiled08:29
CookedGryphonchild*08:29
CookedGryphonfunkyHat, do i still need gstreamer?08:29
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, you said you was using all your bandwidth, & the way you soundsed about it was like you could afford more bandwidth for this n thats atm08:29
no0obtrigg, yes I would have thought it was something like that, but I don't even have this file08:29
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, wondershaper would take care of those sort of things for ya08:29
no0obtrigg, though hal is installed08:29
Seveashumbolt, only recompiling will work08:30
dhjohnson3CookedGryphon, i'm trying to understand this--does the new login thing create a new session on top of or more like beside the first session?08:30
rainmaker"an enhanced tool for easily installing new applications" what is that? from the breezy announcment08:30
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funkyHatCookedGryphon, it's not depended or suggested by the package, so i assume no08:30
triggno0ob: hmm - not sure.  I have it on my system.  try apt-get install hal-device-manager08:31
funkyHatCookedGryphon, it can encode to ogg/vorbis ogg/speex, mp3, flac, and some other format08:31
Seveasrainmaker, gnome-app-install08:31
Seveasit rocks08:31
cvtWhat do i do with this after it's dl'ed?   ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gtypist/08:31
rainmakercool08:31
cvtgtypist-2.7.tar.gz  997 KB  09/28/2003  12:00:00 AM08:31
rainmakerit uses apt-get?08:31
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, using ctrl alt and f1-8  switches between virtual terminals, as if  u were at different computers almost, 1-6 are text consoles, f7 is the default X server, and if u create a new login, that's created on f808:31
cvtthat's what i dl'ed08:31
Seveasrainmaker, of course08:32
CookedGryphonfunkyHat, okay thanks08:32
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Seveascvt, you throw it away08:32
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rainmakerso in short, its a gui for apt-get?08:32
pinucsetdoes somebody know when the new ubuntu release? (stable) :D08:32
funkyHatCookedGryphon, it's cmd line, just to let you know ;)08:32
CookedGryphonand WhiteRabbit what08:32
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Seveasbecause manual downloading is not needed08:32
CookedGryphonis  wondershaper?08:32
chrishey every one08:32
humboltSeveas: So I download 700MBs to upgrade to Breezy and in the end all the 3rd party apps that I need (skype, nx-client) will stop working?08:32
cvtSeveas, how do i get a typing tutor then?08:32
Seveasyou simply type: apt-get install gtypist08:32
deFyskGnome App Install looks pretty goos as I am looking at it now for the first time08:32
Seveashumbolt, nx is working08:32
bernardohi everyone08:32
SeveasI just tested that08:32
CookedGryphonfunkyHat, that's okay, like my cmd lines08:32
funkyHatgdgd :)08:33
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bernardohow can i mount my windows HD08:33
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, if you haven't googled it by now, Just forget bout it ;D08:33
rainmakergot a screeny on that Seveas?08:33
chrishas anyone ever had a problem with playing videos on totem. the audio and video is not in sync. anybody have this problem?08:33
rainmakerim curios :)08:33
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Seveasrainmaker, sec.08:33
funkyHatCookedGryphon, you will need to install the relevant package for the encoding you want, ie. lame for mp3, vorbis-tools, flac08:34
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WhiteRabbitfreenx is the stuff!08:34
Seveasit is :)08:34
dhjohnson3CookedGyphon, i think i've got it--now, if i'm on F7, and someone else is on F8, and i vnc into F7, what is the effect on F8?08:34
CookedGryphonfunkyHat, already have lame 4 definite08:34
funkyHatgdgd08:34
Belutz!tell bernardo about windowsdrives08:34
chrisany help guys?08:34
CookedGryphonWhiteRabbit, give me time, i'm doing 8 things on 2 computers at the moment08:34
triggCookedGryphon: sound-juicer uses the gstreamer plugin to encode08:34
rainmakerk Seveas08:35
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WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, Im surprised your not a true multitasker!08:35
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Seveasrainmaker, ok, it's a double freenx connection: the outer one is hoary-to-breezy, the inner one breezy-to=breezy08:35
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rainmakerokay08:36
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humboltSeveas: Would you do me a favour? Could you try to install skype on your Breezy? I have to download 7 hours to get the breezy updates. I would be devestated if I waited 7 hours and skrewed my hoary only to find out skype is not work anymore.08:36
BollocksMacenzieDoes anyone know of a frontend for the game Discworld Noir for Linux?08:36
CookedGryphonWhiteRabbit, U don't know how trying the things i'm doing are08:36
dhjohnson3CookedGryphon, did that last think make sense?08:36
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humboltSeveas: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb08:37
funkyHathumbolt, why not wait until breezy is released?08:37
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Seveashumbolt, sorry, I don't use KDE08:37
cvtSeveas, ty now where do i find it installed once it's installed?08:37
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, Hey we all have been there once08:37
cvtgtypist08:37
rainmakerSeveas hows the screeny going? :)08:37
deFyskhttp://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/Gnomeappinstall.png08:37
deFyskrainmaker, that one ?08:37
rainmakerthx08:37
CookedGryphondhjohnson3, yeah sry dint see it cos u s[pelt my name wrong, yeah the f8 one gets locked and u have to type ure password to open it, as is always best with these things, try it08:38
whitehorse1Hi. What is the best place to report a critical problem preventing install from completing (ie cannot install Ubuntu breezy) please?08:38
whitehorse1[nb: problem is with actual debian installer, exact same error occurs w/debian etch (unstable) tho debian sarge (stable) that uses previous installer works fine)] 08:38
humboltfunkyHat: Does that make any difference? I thought that is an architecture issue (gcc3 gcc4)?08:38
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/wondershaper it's something that is Purely optional, as I said you may or may not be interested in her08:38
dhjohnson3CookedGryphon, sorry for the misspelling08:38
rainmakerprobably that one yea08:38
Seveasrainmaker, having problems (unrelated to freenx)08:38
rainmakerhow do you get the gnome menu on the bottom? looks great!08:38
rainmakerok Seveas08:38
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funkyHathumbolt, oh right, i wasn't sure what your problem was. sorry08:38
dhjohnson3CookedGryphon, i'll give it a try when my S.O. if here later08:39
deFyskrainmaker, what do you mean ?08:39
funkyHatmaybe skype will release a version of the client compatible with gcc4?08:39
dhjohnson3thanks for the help08:39
whitehorse1I'm thinking in terms of reporting as wanting to get it fixed so I can install and use ubuntu sort've thing. :) Incidentally, I looked at the ubuntu bugzilla and didn't see the problem there. Anyone here in a position to help? Please?08:39
cvtdoes anyone know where gtypist would be located now that i've installed it?08:39
cvti can't find it08:39
triggrainmaker: you can drag it there. . .08:39
deFyskcvt, klick the run thingey in menu08:39
deFyskand hit gtypist08:39
cvttyvm08:40
triggcvt: ls /usr/bin/gtypist08:40
CookedGryphonWhat is the best peer to peer client? i like limewire's interface, its quick to use, butit slows my system down sooo much08:40
poypoyAre there any helpful resources for Wlan, everything I find is just of no help :|.... running really slow/unresponsivly....08:40
chrisguys, what do yall use for playing videos xine or totem?08:40
!lilo:*! Hi all. A new, unofficial channel has been set up for discussion and support of grsecurity; access lists, features, etc. If you're interested and/or would like to help, please stop by ##grsecurity, idle a bit, discuss related topics. Thanks!08:40
dannymchris: mplayer08:40
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steveevlc08:40
poypoychris, mplayer08:40
poypoybah :|08:40
whitehorse1CookedGry: Azareus is good; although of course it's bitorrent not a p2p like limewire or bear08:40
deFyskCookedGryphon, I use nicotine (soulseek)08:40
chrismplayer? havent heard of it08:41
steveevideolanclient08:41
slydeFysk. whats that like ?08:41
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steveeis great08:41
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dannymchris: www.mplayerhq.hu08:41
CookedGryphonwhitehorse1|brb, , i jsut wanna be able to type in a song and a few minutes later have it appear,08:41
deFysksly very good to fileshare music08:41
christotem is laggy on audio so i will try that out08:42
funkyHathumbolt, maybe you can install the old versions of the libs you need under /opt... although skype might not work with them... hey, it's an idea :P08:42
slycheers deFysk may have to try it out :)08:42
CookedGryphonalso, out of interest, has anyone heard of sharescan for windows? for filesharing on local networks, is ther anything compatible with that for linux?08:42
chrisoh yeah, how do you force kill an app?08:42
deFysksly its not a resource hog like azureus08:43
Seveasrainmaker, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/204408:43
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deFyskor any other java app08:43
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rainmakerdeFysk is sly c++?08:43
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triggchris: if you have gnome, open gnome-system-monitor. select app, right-click: "kill app"08:43
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deFyskrainmaker, python I think08:44
WhiteRabbitCookedGryphon, the grail of p2p http://www.zeropaid.com/programs/top_linux.php08:44
HaroldJohnsonHello Ubuntu crew.  Your friendly neighborhood Harold has arrived.08:44
deFysknot sure tho08:44
triggchris: or from command line sudo killall app08:44
deFyskno clue actually08:44
CookedGryphonchris, or you can put a force kill button on ure panel if u like08:44
HaroldJohnsonSeveas, Hello08:44
Seveashi HaroldJohnson08:44
DewDudei'm screwed08:44
DewDudeapt-get dist-upgrade got interrupted08:44
CookedGryphonWhiteRabbit, kk, i'll havea look ta08:44
HaroldJohnsonCookedGryphon, How do you put a force kill button on our panel?08:44
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triggDewDude: apt-get -f install08:44
SeveasDewDude, then restart it :)08:44
WhiteRabbitreinitialize08:44
rainmakerSeveas i cant tell the difference lol08:45
DewDudeno, i think i need to repartition and reinstall08:45
HaroldJohnsonReformat08:45
humbolthttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36212.html states installing libqt3c102-mt by hand makes skype work in breezy.08:45
DewDudei don't need to have a seperate /home partition08:45
Seveasrainmaker :)08:45
HaroldJohnson(Just kidding about the reformat)08:45
CookedGryphonHaroldJohnson, right click, add to panel, force quit button08:45
cvtit's been installing flash player for minutes now08:45
cvtwtf08:45
deFyskDewDude, still lack of space ?08:45
DewDudei'm not THAT crazy08:45
HaroldJohnsonCookedGryphon, Thanks08:45
DewDudeyes08:45
DewDudeit ran out08:45
deFyskDewDude, how big is yours ? ;p08:45
HaroldJohnsonCookedGryphon, That was easy08:45
DewDudeyet, my /home partition, virturally empty08:45
WhiteRabbitcvt, via apt-get or firefox itself?08:45
whitehorse1[Help needed] . {K}ubuntu. I have a critical problem w/installer, preventing install. The problem is with underlying debian installer - it will not partition, just returns invalid function message and loops within back/continue screen. Help, pretty please? :-(08:45
DewDudei'm thinking of reparitioning and reinstalling from breezy CD08:45
cvtWhiteRabbit, ff08:45
whitehorse1Sorry, that was with Breezy.08:46
DewDudethat way i can avoid the space issue in the future08:46
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HaroldJohnsonDewDude, I have only 1.8GB on my drive.  What I did was removed most everything, little by little, and then add the things I only needed.08:46
WhiteRabbitcvt, did you happen to change the vendor back08:46
deFyskDewDude, good plan and have a few gigs free for /08:46
cvtumm08:46
Webby`HELP! I get this error when trying to run win4lin pro: mergepro-core: unable to find host directory /home/webby/winpro/Documents and Settings: No such file or directory08:46
DewDudewell, see08:46
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, How much space do you have?08:46
cvti don't know what that means.08:46
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DewDudeit has seperate / and /home partitions08:46
Webby`What do I do?08:46
DewDudewith /home getting like, an insane amount08:46
DewDudei don't need /home to be seperate from /08:46
DewDudejust let / be one large partition08:46
HaroldJohnsonWebby`, I'm not sure what that is.  Maybe someone else will know.08:47
DewDudescrew security, this is not that critical of a box, it's just a fun litle toy08:47
deFyskDewDude, give / 10 gigs and youls be laughing08:47
CookedGryphonHaroldJohnson, int it jsut08:47
DewDudeit's a 10 gig hard drive08:47
WhiteRabbitcvt, install flashplayer-mozilla08:47
DewDudeformer mac, there's a few driver partitions there08:47
Webby`HaroldJohnson: Ok08:47
deFyskDewDude, give it 5 gigs08:47
whitehorse1Q) Is anyone in a position to help, or at least direct me to where to bring up a problem so it can be fixed, please? Kubuntu breezy, problem is with the debian installer it uses; will not partition, returning e: invalid function message and looping. : - (08:47
deFyskat least08:47
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, So what's taking up so much space?08:47
DewDudei'm not sure what partitions i actually need to have08:47
DewDudei don't know08:47
deFyskso you can easyly dist-upgrade next time08:48
DewDudemy / isn't very bib08:48
DewDudebig08:48
rainmakerheh what a friday night... irc and tv lol08:48
triggwhitehorse1: sorry, might be a faulty install CD08:48
deFyskDewDude, I would just wipe it all and let ubuntu hanle it08:48
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HaroldJohnsonwhitehorse1, Have you tried the Ubuntu website?  Forums? Wiki?08:48
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DewDudethat's what i did before08:48
DewDudeand it made /home massive and / small08:48
whitehorse1trigg: No, it's not :) 'cause,08:48
slyalso, what would be changed doing a dist-upgrade at this moment ?08:48
deFyskDewDude, how did you get a /home then ?08:48
DewDudeubuntu created it08:49
DewDudeor maybe i did08:49
WhiteRabbitwhitehorse1, just use cfdisk then08:49
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deFyskdefault wipe only gives a / and a /swap08:49
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DewDudeeither way..it's not working for me now08:49
whitehorse1trigg: same issue occurs with Debian Etch (unstable) buyt not debian Sarge (stable) installers. the unstable one uses a newer installer and clearly Breezy uses that exact same installer08:49
ubuntuhola08:49
HaroldJohnsonwhitehorse1, If you don't find your answers in those resourceful areas, keep coming back here.  Someone with Kubuntu experience will pop in sooner or later.08:49
DewDudebut what mac partitions do i have to keep08:49
CookedGryphonwhitehorse1, u could try getting ubuntu see if that installs08:49
DewDudedon't i have ot have a /bootstrap partition?08:49
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deFyskDewDude, know nothing about mac08:49
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Your on a Mac?  Okay, so I am I.08:49
ubuntuhello08:49
triggwhitehorse1:  hmm, you could always install ubuntu, then just install kde. . .08:49
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HaroldJohnsonI've installed Ubuntu on 2 Macs now, one a very old Powerbook G3.08:50
CookedGryphonwhitehorse1, then if u really wanted u could install the kubuntu repositories n basically make it into kubuntu08:50
rainmakeri wonder how ubuntu, the company makes money and can maintain this dist? doesnt bandwith and developers cost money?08:50
whitehorse1HaroldJohnson: Thank you, I've tried the ubuntu bugzilla to see if similar reprts exist, but none there.08:50
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DewDudewell, i've got a NewWorld iMac G3 DV08:50
WhiteRabbitwhitehorse1, You could use another linux disc with cfdisk & partition them with that then return to08:50
HaroldJohnsonrainmaker, Ubuntu has a very rich (and generous) supporter.08:50
CookedGryphonrainmaker, donations and also they are run by a well rich philanthropist08:50
whitehorse1trigg | CookedGryphon: It's a fresh install, the problem is with the latest version of the installer program itself08:50
WhiteRabbitwhitehorse1, got a live ubuntu cd or knoppix handy08:51
steveei installed debian on my ppc 9600 once ;)08:51
WhiteRabbitrainmaker, hp supports ubuntu08:51
HaroldJohnsonrainmaker, Yet even with a rich philanthropist, Ubuntu will only survive if it has a community.08:51
whitehorse1WhiteRabiit: They're pre-installed partitions, I'm happy to overwrite the debian one and just use kubuntu, the winxp partition has to stay though :)08:51
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WhiteRabbitrainmaker, how many fingers are on everyones hand in this channel!08:51
whitehorse1whiterabbit: no, should i download a live CD of kubuntu?08:51
triggwhitehorse1: right, I would recommend using the ubuntu install cd and just switching over to kubuntu once you have a working system08:51
deFyskargh! kubuntu :s08:51
cvtWhiteRabbit, where do i type that?  i typed in terminal and looked for it in synaptic, ithink08:52
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, I've installed on 2 Macs, one an Old World and one a New World.  What's going on?08:52
WhiteRabbit!!tell cvt repos08:52
ubotuWhiteRabbit: I haven't a clue08:52
rainmakerwell of im off to install ubuntu, see you guys layer08:52
rainmakerlater*08:52
CookedGryphonDoes any1 know how much ubuntu get in terms of donations, i would donate if i had any money, it rocks,the whole philosophy of it08:52
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WhiteRabbitubotu, You & me both brother08:52
ubotuWish i knew, WhiteRabbit08:52
humboltwhat is the release date for breezy final?08:52
CookedGryphon!repos08:52
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:52
CookedGryphonweird08:52
trigghumbolt: website says October08:52
DewDudeok, when i installed gentoo, i was reading up on how there are partitions on the drive that if i delete i'll render this thing unable to boot08:53
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DewDudeor something08:53
DewDudei know i need a bootstrap partition with gentoo08:53
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, What specific Mac are you installing on?08:53
whitehorse1trigg: I *really* want to use the latest version ie breezy, - because of it using latest x.org and kde versions (by virtue of support for my ATI card). are you 1000% sure if I install the stable ubuntu i can upgrade to breezy kubuntu by installing the kubuntu repositories contents without needing to use the non-functional installer?08:53
DewDudeiMac 400 G3 DV Edition08:53
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steveethe partition sizes are critical if you want to run osx08:54
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, I believe that New World, right?  You need to use Yaboot with that.  You know this, right?08:54
DewDudeyeah08:54
triggwhitehorse1: shouldn't be a problem - they are effectively the same base distribution - as long as you have the kubuntu repositories08:54
DewDudei know i have to use Yaboot08:54
DewDudei did get Gentoo booted on the thing08:54
HaroldJohnsonGood.  Yaboot automatically installs when you install Ubuntu.08:54
DewDudebefore i switched to ubuntu08:54
DewDudei know08:54
DewDudeand it does a nice job of configuring it08:55
whitehorse1Sorry, yep, the problem isn't Ubuntu. Nor Kubuntu. I'm trying to install Kubuntu breezy; the installer fails and won't partition because of a critical bug in the installer. Exact same bug occurs in trying to installer debian etch (unstable) - but not unstable. Both use same installer.08:55
triggwhitehorse1: watch out for breezy right now and ATI - DRI isn't working yet.08:55
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HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Yet if it's considered an Old World Mac, you need to install a different boot loader...what's it called?08:55
steveemklinux08:55
whitehorse1trigg: aren't x.org and xfree stuff part of the base repository, thus necessitating using installer? ..which doesnt work as we know :)08:55
steveeyou won't need that08:56
whitehorse1woah sorry need to check on oven - yikes!08:56
DewDude...i don't know08:56
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, It appears you have a New World Mac, though, since you've already used Yaboot on it...08:56
steveenot on a g308:56
DewDudei only know my mac is new world08:56
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HaroldJohnsonDewDude, You know that for certain?  Good...08:56
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, ...one sec...08:56
DewDudei was able to get that from the install CD's cat /proc/cpuinfo08:56
triggwhitehorse1: I'm using breezy Ubuntu right now - and the installer worked for my laptop. I don't see why it wouldn't work. . .08:56
CookedGryphonright i'm off to give my dad a lift to the pub, keep up the good work people!08:57
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Are you trying to install Hoary or Warty? (or Breezy?  don't even try Breezy yet, it's not ready for Prime Time)08:57
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DewDudewell, i was goin for breezy08:57
steveethe bootstrap partition sucks08:57
cvthow do i turn off sounds of actions?08:57
DewDudeand i got part of the way through the dist-upgrade process..and i ran out of space08:57
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, It may be to early to install Breezy on a Mac.08:57
DewDudeso i was just going to repartition and start over08:57
Hoxzer`what is good Direct connect client for ubuntu?08:57
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Don't worry about the disk space...08:58
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, ...here...08:58
steveeDewDude have you tried yellow dog or mandrake for ppc?08:58
cvtthe error message played a loud glass breaking sound the scared the hell out of me08:58
DewDudeno08:58
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WhiteRabbitcvt, do you have 7.1 srs08:59
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cvti don't knkow08:59
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Remove anything ou don't need and then run the dist-upgrade again.  When if offers to install OpenOffice or any Gnome or KDE stuff, just say no.  You can always add those later.08:59
cvti have ubuntu on a laptop08:59
cvtkde version08:59
WhiteRabbitcvt, do you have 5 speakers & 1 sub woofer for 5.1 audio?08:59
cvtnoire, i have a laptop08:59
whitehorse1|brbtrigg: it's a bug in the underlying debian installer that breezy is using. clearly it doesnt occur on ALL machines at all! sod's law dictates in occurs on MINE :D08:59
cvtno,08:59
deusIm trying to install wine08:59
WhiteRabbitcvt, you must have a vaio then hehe09:00
deusthe problem is this09:00
WhiteRabbitcvs install wine09:00
deusi have a amd64 system09:00
DewDudebleh09:00
deusSo i need 32 libs09:00
cvtnoire, i have one that's worse--compaq09:00
cvtfuck09:00
DewDudewhat about the partial dist-upgrade i've already done09:00
deusHow can i install 32bits conterparts of my libs09:00
cvtnoire, i09:00
HappyFoolhmm. i can't get aptitude to install the linux-image upgrade; despite running 'aptitude update' twice, it doesn't seem to know about the new version.09:00
cvtwhy does it type his name?09:00
triggwhitehorse1: install using hoary installer (5.04) change repositories and dist-upgrade - should work just fine.09:00
cvtNOoooo, i have a compaq latpop09:00
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, I have a very small HD on my old Powerbook.  1.8GB.  So I removed OpenOffice, anything that said Gnome in it, or KDE.  I even removed the X-windowing stuff.  Do you know how to use the command line?09:00
cvtlaptop09:00
slyim halfway thru my dist-upgrade , DewDude ..... hope mine dont stop :(09:00
DewDudeyes09:01
DewDudebut09:01
DewDudei have a 10 gig drive09:01
triggwhitehorse1: just don't install anything from marillat before you do dist-upgrade09:01
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DewDudemy /home partition is like, most of the dirve09:01
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Well, you've got something taking up all that space!  You've got to remove that stuff...09:01
DewDudesix gigs09:01
DewDudeand my / partition is a mere two gigs09:01
Hoxzer`can somebody help me with nvidia tv-out AMD64 forums guide doesn't help :(09:01
deFryskDewDude, set your apt to use /home for cache09:02
whitehorse1|brbTrigg I will try that, ty. But in order to help others... ** Where is the BEST place to raise this problem please (my whining and pleading in IRC helps no-one *g*). It is a problem with Breezy's underlying debian-installer. Should I a) raise this on a debian mailing-list or b) on an ubuntu mailig-list. I'm thinking of mailing lists rather than bugzilla as at my linux experience level I'll likely need advice on what to put in a bug report an09:02
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Well, I don't know about Breezy, but Hoary doesn't take up a full 2GB HD.09:02
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Perhaps Breezy takes up that space.  So...09:02
DewDudedeFrysk...that might work09:02
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whitehorse1|brbmarillat=?09:02
deFryskmarillat is a nonfree repo for debian09:03
cvti don't understand09:03
DewDudebut, it'l be faster for me to install from CD09:03
HaroldJohnsonDewDude, Like I'm saying, you can removed a ton of stuff, and then run the dist-upgrade, making sure to say no to the things you don't *really* need.  Once the dist-upgrade process is finished, you can add the things you want.  Like Gnome, for example.  (Which I don't even use.)09:03
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triggwhitehorse1: definitely post a bug on bugzilla - not hard to do - just check out https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/09:03
whitehorse1|brbdeFrysk: ok thanks. Confused, i thought it was sage/sid/etch ??09:03
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deFrysksarge/sid etc is debian09:03
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HaroldJohnsonDewDude, deFrysk probably has the right course of action.09:03
triggwhitehorse1: you will have to create an account, but it isn't that hard.09:04
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HaroldJohnsonwhitehorse1|brb, The debian distributions are named after the Toy Story characers.09:04
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HaroldJohnsoncharacters.09:04
CookedGryphonsorry to bother u again, but what did we decide was the best mp3 ripper? that gets track names and things?09:04
lukasHi!09:04
whitehorse1|brbtrigg: Bugzilla is fine for me to use - :) I report bugs on opensource stuff using it e.g. on livejournal, often. the problem is knowing what linux info to include. Here's the issue: i can save debug logs using the expert breezy installer but it won't save them to floppy and installing them to localhost 192... is pointless because it crashes and i need to reboot09:05
deFryskCookedGryphon, I use grip09:05
deFryskfor that09:05
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whitehorse1|brb...losing the localhost thang09:05
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CookedGryphonlol that's like.. 10 different ones that have been suggested so far09:05
mirak_hi09:05
mirak_how to apply the kernel patches to the source tree ?09:05
deFryskCookedGryphon, u ARE using linux...09:05
deFryskso losts to choose from09:05
triggwhitehorse1: I know it's a little archaic, but maybe just writing it down and then typing it out once you log onto bugzilla with a detailed explanation of what you did (always include system specs)09:06
lukasI have a problem with getting network-manager going. When dbus starts, it complains "chown: `bind:bind': invalid user" on /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager09:06
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CookedGryphondeFrysk, but which is most efficient?09:07
deFryskCookedGryphon, they all are09:07
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andre_rhello09:07
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whitehorse1trigg: 'e: invalid function' is sum total of error ;) i will submit it with pc specs tho. ty very much. Where is it best to report please? a) debian bugzilla or b) ubuntu bugzilla. what i **do** know is that it's the debian installer as exact same issue occurs with debian etch distro or kubuntu breezy install (i'd preferr to use latter, ultimately_09:07
CookedGryphonsound juicer isn't, takes about 15 mins09:07
deFryskCookedGryphon, try them and see wich you preferr09:07
CookedGryphonfair enough09:08
deFrysk15 minutes for what ?09:08
CookedGryphonthanks09:08
CookedGryphonto rip a cd09:08
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CookedGryphonleast it diod when i did it09:08
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whitehorse1are any officially-recognised Ubuntu developers here who'd know?09:08
deFryskon 128 kbps ?09:08
CookedGryphonthat was to ogg, not mp3 btw09:08
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triggwhitehorse1: I would put it in the kubuntu section, since that is the specifice installer that you are trying.09:08
deFryskCookedGryphon, ogg is a better and higher compression09:08
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deFryskCookedGryphon, might be the reason09:09
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triggwhitehorse1: though you might mention that you had the same problem with etch09:09
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CookedGryphondeFrysk, i know, and i would use it happily, but my mp3 player dunt play em :(09:09
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deFryskCookedGryphon, get lame09:09
whitehorse1trigg: thank you very much09:09
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triggwhitehorse1: no problem09:09
deFrysksudo apt-get install lame09:09
CookedGryphonkk, done09:10
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lukas networkmanager somebody?09:13
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qatsiok, im downloading the new ubuntu, breeze badger, or something. but this is the preview release. in october comes the new one, so i have to update the system, or download the new cd and istall it ?09:13
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bur[n] erqatsi: just update09:14
lukasqatsi, just update09:14
lukasbur[n] er, lol :)09:14
qatsiok :) thanx09:14
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qatsiboth :p09:14
qatsiwarty was the last system ?, warty-hoary-breeze ?09:14
bur[n] erthat's it09:14
deFryskbur[n] er, that is because noone listens to me09:15
bur[n] erwarty-hoary-breezy-grumpy09:15
FraeonGrumpy?09:15
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funkyHatlol09:15
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, i'm only using sound juicer cos it came installed, y don't they replace it with grip if its so bad?09:15
bur[n] erwell...grip is gtk109:15
bur[n] ersound juicer is gtk209:15
qatsigrumpy :P09:15
bur[n] ertoo bad goobox isn't better09:15
bur[n] erit'd be nice to have a gtk2 ripper09:15
deFryskwarty-hoary-breezy-grumpy-humpty-dumpty09:15
funkyHatgrumpy gentoo?09:15
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funkyHat;)09:15
qatsidont insult gentoo :P  jaja i love it09:16
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saubzhello09:16
bur[n] eractually... goobox is better than sound juicer :)09:16
deFryskgrumpy cannon09:16
mcphailWhat CD ripper is the new GNOME shipping with? I saw something mentioned on the website.09:16
bur[n] ermcphail: soundjuicer09:16
mcphailok09:16
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=== bur[n] er would really suggest goobox instead :) it lets you change bitrates as opposed to sound juicer
deFryskmcphail, sound juicer09:17
qatsiok, ill start downloading the preview :) c ya !09:17
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saubzcould somebody answer a pretty easy question for me?09:17
deFryskno09:17
popeyjust ask it samu209:17
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popeyooops09:17
deFrysknever09:17
popeysaubz:09:17
hector__holas09:17
FraeonI never really got the answer to my question but I think it's best for me to give up. :P09:17
CookedGryphondoes ne1 know of a decent p2p program that is quick and doesn't run in jjava?09:17
saubzthe aptitude part in the install, i get pretty confused.  is it okay to just skip that part and install the packages later09:17
CookedGryphonFraeon, what was ure question ?09:18
popeyCookedGryphon: overnet09:18
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: amule?09:18
deFrysknicotine09:18
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deFryskdanget09:18
popeybittorrent :D09:18
mcphailHas anyone looked at the grip source? Would it be a non-trivial project to update it to gtk2?09:18
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Fraeonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6351309:18
bur[n] ermcphail: go for it ;)09:18
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popeynicely volunteered there mcphail09:18
deFryskmcphail, an name it grip209:18
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FraeonSomeone told me reverting to an older version of dhclient would work09:19
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dannymmcphail: generally, porting from gtk to gtk2 is easy as pie :)09:19
FraeonBut I haven't tried that yet09:19
lukasCookedGryphon, what about gnutella/gtk-gnutella?09:19
deFryskdannym, than you can also help out :)09:19
dannymmcphail: the only thing totally different in gtk2 is manual text output and "gdk image"09:19
bur[n] erdannym: port grip for us ;)09:19
deFryskhurry!!09:19
saubzanybody?09:19
mcphailwould be worth a look. There isn't too much difference between GTK1 and 2.09:19
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dannymdeFrysk: ;)09:20
funkyHatwhen are ubuntu's security signatures gonna get fixed? they've been messed up for weeks09:20
CookedGryphonlukas, i have gtk-gnutella and its sooo ugly and awkward to use09:20
deFryskfunkyHat, wich ones ?09:20
CookedGryphoni just want a search box, select the file, then a downloads box, i don't care about all the nodes its connecting to and what rate its going at each source etc.09:20
funkyHatdeFrysk, well, there's something up with security.ubuntu.com and the https certificate for wiki. is broken09:21
lukashm, yeah, CookedGryphon, that's true :)09:21
deFryskoh09:21
Hoxzer:E09:22
Hoxzervalknut doesn't even save the settings09:22
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dannymdeFrysk: grip is gtk2, is it not ? http://nostatic.org/grip/ that one09:22
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saubzis it alright to skip over the apt part of the install?09:23
bur[n] eroh yeah, you're right :)09:23
bur[n] erlong live grip :)09:23
HappyFoolsaubz: i take you're doing an expert install?09:23
johlong live sound-juicer :)09:23
bur[n] erbleh09:23
deFrysklooks gtk1 to me....09:23
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saubzhappyfool:  im just doing the normal install09:24
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HappyFoolsaubz: ok, what apt part do you want to skip?09:24
Brad1982c' qualcuno che parla italiano?09:24
smottW: GPG error: http://si.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatu res were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> <-- hm?09:24
HappyFoolsaubz: the default install should be fairly straightforward09:24
deFryskgrip in breezy is gtk2!!!09:25
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saubzi get to an apt screen and it has some options like download/update/quit09:25
CookedGryphonBrad1982, try #ubuntu-it or something09:25
Brad1982ok thanks09:25
HappyFoolsaubz: hmm. you can probably update your system later09:26
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bur[n] erdeFrysk: yeah, i'm a tool... i spread a vicious rumor about gtk109:26
CookedGryphonis that the right abbreviation? it for italian/09:26
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HappyFoolsaubz: i don't remember getting any prompts like that09:26
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bur[n] erit's gtk 2.2 I think, not 2.6 or 2.8 or something though09:26
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deFrysklol bur[n] er09:26
poypoyOk, so does Ubuntu automatically install linux-wlan-ng? Doesn't seem to be working too well here, ofc it works, but is pretty damned slow here.09:27
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saubzthanks for the help though09:27
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bur[n] eranyone know how to get a beep tray icon??09:27
bur[n] eris there a .deb package for it?09:27
Alex_BOHeLLO! I don't know why (probably I removed it), but I can't find the file ~/.bash_profile. Where can I find it? In the installation CD? In a live CD?09:27
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bur[n] ermcphail: nevermind that grip stuff... it's all good ;)09:28
deFryskbur[n] er, there is none afaIk09:28
charlesjnewbie here. how do i remove a broken package that lot of other packages depend on?09:28
HappyFoolAlex_BO: you can create it if it doesn't exist09:28
bur[n] erAlex_BO: why you need it?09:28
mcphailbur[n] er: i'll make one with checkinstall if you like...09:28
deFryskapt-get remove --purge <package>09:28
HappyFoolAlex_BO: it's supposed to be in your home directory (e.g., /home/Alex_BO/.bash_profile09:28
CookedGryphoncharles__, can't u reinstall it?09:28
triggAlex_BO: try /etc/skel09:28
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CookedGryphonAlex_BO, if ure typing ls to find it, try ls -a09:28
charlesjlet me try09:28
CookedGryphonit shidden09:28
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deFryskcharles__, first apt-get -f install09:29
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zack_|workI'm going to be receiving hourly emails, with attachments, to a certain email address. How can I set up a script to run on the attachment every time I receive an email?09:29
Alex_BOHappyFool: yes, i know but there isn't. Can I make it by myself? Or copy it from another file (like /etc/skel as trigg said)09:29
deFryskcharlesj, first apt-get -f install09:29
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Mystery47_Newbiehi all! i got some prob with my f-prot....09:29
bur[n] erAlex_BO: just make it... but I think you want .bashrc and not .bash_profile09:30
charlesjdefrysk: thanks. trying09:30
HappyFoolAlex_BO: up to you. it's a plain text file. the /etc/skel version might be a helpful starting point09:30
triggAlex_BO: the one in /etc/skel is the one used everytime you create a new user, so it should work if you copy it using a regular user account09:30
deFryskMystery47_Newbie, no f's to prot I guess ?09:30
Mystery47_Newbie1. i downloaded file....(deb) and installed it....but what now...?09:30
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deFryskMystery47_Newbie, why virus protection in linux ?09:30
mcphaillooks like gtk2 to me...09:31
charlesjdefrysk: it says "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libgcrypt11: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed"09:31
Mystery47_Newbiei just wanna try....09:31
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Mystery47_Newbieim old windows user....=)09:31
charlesjlibgcrypt11 is the broken package09:31
Alex_BOtrigg: HappyFool: okey.tnks. I am gonna copy it and modify if it will necessary (like aliases or colors, but i think that, if they are already setted in .bashrc, i don't need to modify it)09:31
Seveascharlesj, don't use non-ubuntu repositories...09:31
bur[n] erMystery47_Newbie: just run the file09:31
Hoxzerwe need something09:31
Hoxzer...09:31
deFryskbecome a new linux user Mystery47_Newbie and dont worry about virusses09:31
Hoxzersomething...09:31
HoxzerTV-out :)09:31
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HappyFoolMystery47_Newbie: try clamav for virus checking -- there's a version in the ubuntu repositories09:32
triggMystery47_Newbie: if you want to scan specific files, try ClamAV.  If you want to search for possible rootkits, try rkhunter or chkrootkit09:32
Hoxzerbtw is there someway to get UT to work properly in ubuntu?09:32
funkyHata version that keeps complaining that it's out of date HappyFool ;)09:32
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deFryskclamscan!09:32
HappyFooldoesn't it come with an update script?09:32
saubzi get an error during install09:32
saubzBuffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 18793409:32
saubzandy thoughts?09:32
Mystery47_Newbiei know that..........ubuntu rules....my 1g machine with linux beats my other 1.6g windows machine....09:32
i3dmasterDoes anyone know how to edit the gnome right click menu?09:32
crashboxhey all, when suing in terminal, it dosnt take the password, but when i doa an upgrade with synaptics and stuff like that, it does take my pw, any suggestions?09:32
poypoyYeah, we all wanna become linux users... :P09:32
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charlesjseveas: now that it's installed, how do i remove it09:33
charlesj>09:33
charlesj?09:33
HappyFoolsaubz: maybe just a glitch, or a bad cd09:33
poypoyThe thing is, it's pretty damned hard to find stuff, tis my only complaint so far, got no problem with the doing stuff part...09:33
bbenalliehello everyone09:33
triggcrashbox: use sude command in terminal09:33
Seveascharlesj, it cannot possibly be installed if it gives dependency errors09:33
Mystery47_Newbiebut i like to know is here someone other who might use already f-prot?09:33
triggcrashbox: use sudo command in terminal09:33
Seveasbut you can dpkg -P it09:33
crashboxtrigg, k, will try09:33
Alex_BOSorry for the many questions, but can you advice me a program to chat in the console? Like centericq or naim09:33
Mystery47_Newbie....and managed it to work?09:33
bbenallieis there a question queue or something , heh09:33
deFryskcharlesj, you have been noughty with the repo's ?09:33
charlesjseveas: it shows me a hughe list of dependent packages09:34
triggcrashbox: i meant "sudo" not "sude" ;)09:34
charlesjdefrysk: yes09:34
deFrysksuede ?09:34
Mystery47_Newbiei read these helps....in here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=932809:34
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crashboxlol, k09:34
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triggsuede is soft09:34
deFryskMystery47_Newbie, dont!!!09:34
bbenallieCan someone help mount an external USB drive with the live-cd?09:34
deFryskMystery47_Newbie, read the wiki's09:35
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Mystery47_Newbiedamn.....u guys...09:35
Mystery47_Newbieok......i have no hurry...09:35
bbenalliehelp me, that is09:35
bbenallieheh09:35
crashboxtrigg, all i get is the usage info09:35
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charlesjnow what?09:35
Daemonicwhere are downloaded .debs stored by default?09:35
Mystery47_Newbiebut i check little more bout wikis...09:35
deFryskMystery47_Newbie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is your bible, nothing else matters09:36
Daemonicor are they cleaned afterwards? (by default)09:36
deFrysk</metallica>09:36
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triggcrashbox: type sudo /command/you/want/to/run/as/root09:36
Seveascharlesj, which did you try to remove?09:36
crashboxah, yes, ic09:36
Daemonicanyone?09:37
Daemoniceasy question?09:37
bbenallieDoes anyone know how to mount external USB storage devices with the ubuntu live cd?09:37
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charlesjdpkg --purge libgcrypt1109:37
Mystery47_Newbiethanks for that page....i bookmarked it...09:37
deFrysksudo dpkg remove --purge09:37
HappyFoolbbenallie: you're on the live cd now?09:37
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bbenallieHappyFool09:37
bbenallieno, but it's running on a laptop next to me09:38
hmrochahello, can you use evolution to read news?09:38
bbenalliesorry, pressed "enter" accidently"09:38
Mystery47_Newbiei have one www-page lost? that page what tellsu HOWTO things....i lost it bec i installed this system again...09:38
hmrochawith evolution 2.209:38
charlesjSeveas: dpkg --purge libgcrypt11. libgcrypt1 was already installed09:38
CookedGryphonDaemonic, /var/cache/apt/archives09:38
HappyFoolbbenallie: ok, start a root terminal (applications -> system tools -> root terminal)09:38
bbenallieokay09:38
Mystery47_Newbienvidia, java, etc09:38
HappyFoolbbenallie: is that machine connected to the net?09:38
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bbenallieyes it is09:38
bbenalliehappyfool: yes it is09:39
HappyFoolbbenallie: great. is the device connected at the moment?09:39
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typo_hi09:39
bbenalliehappyfool: the device is connected09:39
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lillyhi everyone.09:39
Hoxzer...  :D09:39
blacksheepi see this ubuntu crap caught on09:39
bbenalliehappyfool: it's a blank disk, need to format it to ext309:39
HappyFoolbbenallie: ok, can you paste the output of the commands 'mount' and 'fdisk -l' to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:39
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HappyFoolbbenallie: ah09:40
shuriken_hello09:40
Mystery47_Newbiehow many of u have been compiled kernel....?09:40
typo_i'm installing ubuntu on a non-laptop for the first time.. and hardware has moved on. i get failed messages when scanning for components on the cdrom when i don't disable SATA in bios09:40
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poypoyMeh, I just got "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" when trying to apt-get install something, is there a force quit or something to get rid of whatever's stopping me from this?09:40
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HappyFoolbbenallie: is it partitioned?09:40
deFryskMystery47_Newbie, its all in the wiki : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation09:40
lillyanybody knows how to get a ne2k_pci compatible ethernet card (realtek 8029 AS) to work during an breezy preview installation?09:40
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bbenalliehappyfool: actually, it's formatted as NTFS09:40
DaemonicCookedGryphon: thanks.09:40
Seveasblacksheep, if you thin Ubuntu is crap, why are you here?09:40
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deFryskMystery47_Newbie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia09:40
Hoxzeris there any way to get that upper panel back if I deleted it?09:40
Mystery47_Newbiei have seen u before deFrysk....u give good advices...09:40
HappyFoolbbenallie: ok, do you want to read data off it before formatting?09:40
blacksheepSeveas, curiosity09:40
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charlesjpoypoy: is the synapticpm running?09:41
chrisbudden14How do i add Tahoma font to my system?09:41
shuriken_I have OSX and Ubuntu running on a PPC G4, and I'd like yaboot to automatically boot into OSX after 5 secs - however, it boots into Ubuntu09:41
CookedGryphonchrisbudden14, ah, tahoma, what a great font09:41
bbenalliehappyfool: nope, just want to mount the drive and change the fs to ext3 :) I appreciate your help09:41
crashboxwhere do i set what display manager is loaded at startup?09:41
typo_anyone have experience with installing on SATA drives ?09:41
poypoyOh, that fixed it :P, cheers09:41
typo_with enabled sata in bios, i get cdrom read errors :P09:41
typo_(cdrom is pata)09:41
deFryskgrip even docs in notification area :)09:42
HappyFoolbbenallie: ok, the output of 'fdisk -l' will tell us where the disk and partition are (possibly /dev/sda1); can you paste the output of the commands mount and fdisk -l to the pastebin?09:42
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bbenalliehappyfool: okay09:42
shuriken_my current yaboot.conf looks like this: http://pastebin.com/35916009:43
lillyanybody knows how to get a ne2k_pci compatible ethernet card (realtek 8029 AS) to work during a breezy preview installation?09:43
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shuriken_I understood that the first one specified will automatically be booted, but it doesn't seem to09:43
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charlesjdefrysk, seveas: any ideas for me?09:44
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bbenalliehappyfool: i just pasted them09:45
bbenallienickname is the same09:46
poypoystupid question: If I log out, then do ctrl alt backspace, will it put me back onto the gnome login screen with X reloaded?09:46
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deFryskcharlesj did you install more packages from that alien repo ?09:46
triggpoypoy: yes09:46
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oupaloupaHi09:46
triggpopoy: as long as you still have a valid xorg.conf09:46
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HappyFoolbbenallie: ok, standby09:46
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charlesjdefrysk: i think i did. don't quite remember which :p09:46
] BreliC[hey everyone09:46
oupaloupaI have some problem with my ATI Radeon X7OO09:47
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deFryskcharlesj then you have a prob09:47
kevogodoupaloupa, Throw it away then.09:47
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oupaloupaupgrade to Breezy and now it didn't work09:47
GoClickHow do I check a filesystem  I got some sort of error about the wrong number of hard links in / while installing apache so what command do I use to check and fix that fs?09:47
CookedGryphonHow do you uninstall a package which u've added with alien?09:47
kevogodoupaloupa, What kind of errors you getting?09:47
Jack-Hohey09:47
charlesjdefrysk: tell me the usual procedure anyway09:47
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oupaloupaweird09:47
bur[n] eranyone know how to get bmp to play .wma files?09:47
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oupaloupabefore it works with driver ati09:47
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, yep09:47
] BreliC[i have a question: i have a TV tuner card and have Cron jobs set up to record my TV shows...09:47
deFryskcharlesj I used to do silly things too and usually it ment a reinstall09:47
CookedGryphonjustgimmie a min to get the link09:47
bur[n] erbmp-wma package doesn't exist ;)09:47
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Jack-Hoi update my kernel to 2.6.13 and it dosnt listn to the fatab file09:48
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CookedGryphonseveas set it up 4 me09:48
HappyFoolbbenallie: hmm. ubuntu doesn't seem to see your usb disk -- only an ide disk09:48
triggGoClick: man, I had the same problem once in Gentoo - never fixed, just reinstalled.  Howver if you have reiser - you do a chkreiserfs09:48
Jack-Hohow can i fix it?09:48
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: gotta compile from a tarball?09:48
oupaloupaand some option  MonitorLayout "LVDS,LVDS"09:48
CookedGryphonit does09:48
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CookedGryphoni'm using it atm09:48
shuriken_so anyone who's experienced in editing yaboot.conf?09:48
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, nope09:48
deFryskcharlesj and another lesson learned09:48
CookedGryphontrust me, one min09:48
bur[n] erbmp-wma?  not in breezy09:48
oupaloupanow using new version of xorg it didn't work09:48
triggGoClikc: or maybe its reiserfsck09:48
charlesjdefrysk: shyte. i did fear that :)09:48
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Jack-Hoany one?09:48
bbenallieHappyFool: but it does show it in the proc list09:48
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charlesjdefrysk: but surely, there has to be a easier way out09:48
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CookedGryphonseveas set up the package 4 me when i asked09:48
] BreliC[back when I was using SuSE last year, it worked fine (I use mencoder)... but with Ubuntu, it seems that the audio won't record.  I'm guessing that it has to do with the fact that it uses ESD and for whatever reason, mencoder has no real way (at least not that I know of) to identify the device using its convention (what is its convention?)...09:49
deFryskcharlesj fear no lessons09:49
oupaloupathe proprietary ATI driver is fglrx ?09:49
oupaloupafor xorg ?09:49
rx-182whats the planned rls date for breezy?09:49
bbenalliehappyfool: would I have to load it as a module when I boot the cd?09:49
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: for breezy right?09:49
Virtuall -         -     Software Freedom Day '05,         00:30 !!!09:49
oupaloupa4 weeks09:49
Virtuall...sorry for that09:49
] BreliC[anyone else use mencoder and successfully record audio using ESD?09:49
deFryskcharlesj try to uninstall all alien packages09:49
charlesjdefrysk: its a complex web09:49
oupaloupaBreliC : why did u use EDS, disable ESD in panel configuration09:49
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, oh , sry, its 4 hoary09:49
bur[n] erCookedGryphon: don't suppose he packaged bmp-docklet for you?09:49
bur[n] eraww09:49
CookedGryphonshould worktho shouldn't it?09:49
deFryskapt-get remove --purge <aliencrap>09:49
bur[n] eri think I'll have to build it from source09:49
GoClickI think I'll boot to the LiveCD and run fsck09:49
bur[n] erwell, i dunno09:49
GoClickbbl09:49
bur[n] ergot a link?09:49
HappyFoolbbenallie: hmm. i thought those modules were loaded as needed09:50
charlesjdefrysk: nah that didnt work09:50
HappyFoolbbenallie: where do you see it in /proc ?09:50
triggoupaloupa: yes fglrx is the propriatary driver for ATI Radeon 8500 and up09:50
Jack-Hoi update my kernel to 2.6.13 and it dosnt listn to the fatab file how can i fix it?09:50
] BreliC[oupaloupa, you mean in the multimedia systems selector?09:50
charlesjdefrysk: tells me all the other packages will have to go too09:50
oupaloupatrigg : ok thanks09:50
deFryskcharlesj try --nodeps09:50
triggGoClick: good luck09:50
oupaloupatrigg : didn't work too with fglrx :(09:50
deFryskbut be prepared for a reinstall (so back up your stuff)09:50
triggoupaloupa: are you using breezy?09:51
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : sound panel configuration09:51
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, look on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/09:51
oupaloupatrigg : yep09:51
bbenalliehappyfool: oh, sorry, I mistook the listing of "usbfs on /proc/bus/usb" as ubuntu seeing the external USB drive09:51
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oupaloupatrigg : because some problem with my soundcard09:51
triggoupaloupa: xorg isn't working because of your soundcard??09:51
oupaloupatrigg : so I upgrade to breezy09:51
] BreliC[oupaloupa, where is that?  In any case, if I change it to alsa, it gives me a broken pipe error.. ?09:51
oupaloupatrigg : so I upgrade to breez09:51
charlesjdefrysk: i just used the synapticpm and forced the older version09:51
triggoupaloupa: ahhh09:52
charlesjdefrysk: seems to be working09:52
oupaloupatrigg : nope09:52
bur[n] erthanks CookedGryphon09:52
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : huh ?09:52
deFryskcharlesj, cool :)09:52
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Jack-Hooupaloupa,  i update my kernel to 2.6.13 and it dosnt listn to the fatab file how can i fix it?09:52
] BreliC[i have two soundcards... the primary is an onboard and the secondary is M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 which i use only for recording09:52
HappyFoolbbenallie: can you unplug and plug the device back in, and paste the output of 'dmesg|tail -20' to the paste-bin ?09:52
oupaloupaJack-Ho  : recompile your own kernel or using kernel-image ?09:53
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, let me kno if it works09:53
charlesjdefrysk: worked! :D09:53
triggoupaloupa: ok, right now fglrx and xorg don't play nice in breezy (DRI doesn't work)09:53
charlesjdefrysk: thanks mate09:53
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oupaloupaJack-Ho  : you mean it didn't use /etc/fstab ?09:53
bbenallieHappyFool : alrighty09:53
Jack-Hoi think09:53
oupaloupatrigg : arf !!!!!!!!!!09:53
deFryskcharlesj, you lucked out!09:53
CurrAre there known problems trying to install to a notebook with an x300 graphics card in it?09:53
deFrysk:D09:53
triggoupaloupa: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if you can get one working09:53
oupaloupaJack-Ho  : try to see /etc/init./mountall.sh09:53
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CookedGryphonOkay, i've beensetting up fora couple of days now, and i have only one problem left....09:53
triggoupaloupa: fglrx will still work, you just won't have 3d accel09:53
oupaloupatrigg : already done not worky09:54
triggoupaloupa: don't use the framebuffer09:54
CookedGryphonhow do u get these lil metallic Designed for wondows xp stickers off without leaving a mess???09:54
Jack-Hobecus in the file there is /dev/hda1 /media/C ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 and it didnt munt it09:54
shinuhow do i change a filename beginning with '-' ?09:54
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CookedGryphonwindows*09:54
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crashboxhow do i cnage my display manager from hdm to gdm?09:54
bur[n] er CookedGryphon: like a charm :)09:54
bur[n] erdanke09:54
CookedGryphonshinu, try putting it in quotes09:54
crashboxhdm=kdm*09:54
CookedGryphonbur[n] er, ure welcome09:54
oupaloupatrigg : howto disable ?09:54
triggoupaloupa: in your xorg.conf comment out the line that says "UseFrameBuffer"   "True"09:55
Jack-Hooupaloupa, sudo: /etc/init./mountall.sh: command not found09:55
Jack-Ho?09:55
deFryskcrashbox, got kdm installed aswell as gdm ?09:55
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crashboxyup09:55
bbenallieHappyFool : sent it09:55
deFryskapt-get remove gdm09:55
triggoupaloupa: file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:55
shinuCookedGryphon: double quotes?09:55
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CookedGryphonshinu, yeah09:55
kevogodCookedGryphon, Well, in order to do this, you must obtain permission from the head office at Microsoft Headquarters. Otherwise, you are committing a Class A felony.09:55
oupaloupaJack-Ho  : strange ...09:55
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crashboxi wanna keed gdm though09:55
deFryskcrashbox, you'll get a dialog asking you if you wish to use kdm09:55
oupaloupatrigg : gonna check09:55
charlesjanybody use DC++ in here?09:55
] BreliC[oupaloupa, i'm assuming by 'Sound panel configuration" you mean System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector09:55
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HappyFoolbbenallie: i'm afraid that doesn't look too promising09:56
Trebzwhere can i get Java?09:56
deFryskcrashbox, after removing it reinstall it09:56
CookedGryphonkevogod, lol, int there a shell command to do it? there is for everything else09:56
bur[n] er!java09:56
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:56
crashboxok09:56
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : nope09:56
bbenallieHappyFool: Yeah, I saw the error -7109:56
bbenallie:(09:56
kevogodCookedGryphon, Nope, copyright issues09:56
Trebzthankies09:56
] BreliC[oupaloupa, ok, then what do you mean?09:56
deFryskcrashbox, and again you''ll get the dialog asking you what to use09:56
thierryis it safe for my data to do a dist-upgrade to breezy?09:56
CookedGryphonkevogod, like we care about that?09:56
crashboxdeFrysk, k09:56
oupaloupatrigg : howto disable ? text dispappear09:56
HappyFoolbbenallie: what is the make/model of the device?09:56
CookedGryphonthere should be a ubuntu ersion designed to stick over the top of it09:56
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bur[n] erthierry: data is not affected, only your programs09:56
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : Something call sound09:57
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pinucsetsomebody has the link of some kde vs. gnome website comparative?09:57
=== bur[n] er doesn't
kevogodCookedGryphon, Sure we do. If we did not, we would not be using a GPL license.09:57
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : In Preference/Administration don't remenber09:57
cevizogluhow do I set my default browser to Epiphany?09:57
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : didn't have now graphic so I can't tell sorry09:57
HappyFoolbbenallie: ah-ha. maybe this will help: http://www.spinics.net/lists/usb/msg02641.html09:57
oupaloupatrigg : howto disable ? text dispappear :)09:57
deFryskpinucset, there is no comparason use gnome!09:57
HappyFoolbbenallie: brb09:57
triggoupaloupa: in your xorg.conf comment out the line that says "UseFBdev"   "True"09:57
oupaloupatrigg : ok09:57
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pinucsetok defryzk!09:58
isahola09:58
deFrysk:D09:58
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isa?????? hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo09:58
oupaloupatrigg : didn't have it :(09:58
] BreliC[oupaloupa, ok, no prob.. in any case, the only thing i have under either Preferences or Administration with the word sound is something called Sound, and that's not it09:58
CookedGryphonseriously tho, there should b somewhere to buy lil stickers Designed for Ubuntu Linux with the lil logo, that stick over them nicely09:58
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oupaloupatrigg : didn't have it :(09:58
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thierrybur[n] er : ok and if I do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is it ok or do I need to update my apt-get repositories file?09:58
isai not speak english :s09:58
triggoupaloupa: dcchat09:58
shinuk09:58
shinuthanks a lot09:58
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oupaloupatrigg : huh ?09:58
CookedGryphoni would take it off but its REALLY well stuck09:58
isaalgien abla een espaol09:58
Seveas!es09:58
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:58
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isai speak spanish09:59
bbenalliehappyfool: okay!09:59
Currwhen trying to install to my inspiron 6000 notebook with an x300 graphics card, the install goes to a rainbow colored screen and I have to ctl-alt-del09:59
Seveas!tell isa about es09:59
nexus-anyone on breezy knows if it supports hibernation?09:59
deFryskisa /j #ubuntu-es09:59
oupaloupadcchat09:59
bitkromwhat does --variant=buildd do in a debootstrap?09:59
oupaloupatrigg : dunno how to use it sorry09:59
lukasCan someone help me with getting network-manager up and running? when dbus starts, it complains that it can't find user and group "bind"09:59
bur[n] erthierry: update first09:59
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : didn't have now graphic so I can't tell sorry09:59
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bur[n] erSeveas: do you use checkinstall to make your .debs?10:00
thierrybur[n] er : ok thanks10:00
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : there isn't something call sound ???10:00
Seveasbur[n] er, no10:00
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : strange10:00
kevogodI have an x300 graphics card for my PC. I will never buy that cheap again.10:00
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Seveasonly the bmp-wma plugin is a checkinstall deb10:00
bur[n] eroh ;)10:00
] BreliC[oupaloupa, yeah, it is strange.. thanks for your help... i'll keep looking10:00
pinucsetwhere can i download the last kde version for ubuntu?10:00
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : if u use Gstreamer try to install gstreamer08--fmpeg10:00
Jack-Hono one knows?10:01
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bur[n] eri'm gonna package bmp-docklet via checkinstall then :)10:01
oupaloupa] BreliC[ : if u use Gstreamer try to install gstreamer08-ffmpeg10:01
HappyFoolbbenallie: i'm not sure if we need to first remove usbcore10:01
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HappyFoolbbenallie: i suspect one will, however10:01
HappyFoolbbenallie: do you have other usb devices attached to the machine?10:01
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Seveasbmp docklet has a package already iirc10:02
bur[n] erSeveas: know where?10:02
HappyFoolbbenallie: oh, hang on10:02
HappyFooleven easier: http://www.mepis.org/node/586010:02
matsanyone who has problems doing an apt-update after editing sourlist?10:02
bbenallieHappyFool: nope, no other USB devices10:03
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i3dmasteranyone knows how to edit the right click menu?10:03
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HappyFoolbbenallie: let's try that echo command10:03
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HappyFoolbbenallie: unplug the device, and then execute this:10:04
HappyFoolecho N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first10:04
matswhen i edit the sourlist to universe it wont take my sourcelist :O10:04
mcphaili3dmaster: what do you want to add or change?10:04
HappyFoolthen plug the device in and see what dmesg|tail -20 says10:04
bbenallieHapyFool: alrighty!10:05
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cevizogluanyone know how to make xchat use epiphany to open url's instead of firefox?10:05
HappyFoolbbenallie: if that doesn't work, unplug, and do 'echo Y > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first', and plug in and check again10:05
i3dmastermcphail: I want to add a "open terminal" there on the right click menu. I am using breezy10:05
bbenallieHappyFool: starting up the CD again, sorry, it's almost done10:06
mcphaili3dmaster: don't know how to do that directly, but you can add a simple script to do it to $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and it will appear on the right-click menu10:06
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triggcevizoglu: under System|Preferences|Preferred Application, change browser to epiphany10:07
i3dmastermcphail: ok, let me see...10:07
triggcevizoglu: then, in xchat, right click url, send to | gnome url handler10:07
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cevizogluthx  :)10:07
james23hiya :)10:08
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Seveas(: ayih10:08
james23Just downloaded and install breezy colony 4 - not bad so far10:08
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Seveasbreezy is in pretty good shape indeed10:08
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james23are you using it too?10:09
bbenallieHappyFool: finally got to the desktop, going to execute the commands soon10:09
Seveason one of my systems since today10:09
Colloidwhat noticable differences are there?10:09
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HappyFoolbbenallie: ok10:09
james23the installer is improved10:09
james23seems a bit snappier10:09
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deFryskusplsh looks ok10:09
triggColloid: gnome-2.12 = pretty10:09
james23yep!10:09
Colloidwho cares what the installer looks like? ;/10:09
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james23I've always been a fan of gnome, and gnome 2.12 rocks10:10
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i3dmastermcphail: It didn't have anything in there yet.10:10
mcphaili3dmaster: where?10:10
triggColloid: much improved nautilus10:10
deFryskevince , killer app is in with serpentine , another killer app10:10
i3dmastermcphail: .gnome2/nautilus-scripts10:10
james23Yeah, nautilus goes back to pre 2.6 behaviour10:10
mcphaili3dmaster: just add a script to the directory and chmod +x10:10
i3dmastermcphail: what would the script look like? just a shell script?10:10
Colloidwhat version of php comes for breezy?10:11
i3dmastermcphail: something simply like gnome-terminal& right?10:11
mcphaili3dmaster: yes: #! /bin/bash ; xterm ;exit 0 etc etc10:11
triggwell, sorta pre 2.6 - cleaner interface and more options than pre 2.610:11
james23CoIloid: I don't actually know10:11
endy_xAnyone know why my module options set in /etc/modprobe.d/ don't work from boot but do if i manually modprobe?10:11
james23Colloid: is there anyway I can find out?10:11
i3dmastermcphail: ok got it. Thanks very much! I will try it.10:11
deFryskbreezy smells better too actually10:12
triggendy_x: the auto load list is /etc/modules10:12
Colloidjames23: synaptic package manager, maybe?10:12
james23Colloid, good idea10:12
james23lol10:12
Colloid;P10:12
mcphaili3dmaster: this directory is very useful. I use it for lots of scripts (e.g. to resize jpegs from nautilus etc)10:12
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bbenallieHappyFool: same thing, that stinks10:12
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HappyFoolbbenallie: with N or Y ?10:13
bbenalliewith both10:13
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endy_xtrigg, i put the name of the module int here but if i put the options it doesnt seem to work, would the synax  be "options <module> <module options>" right?10:13
HappyFoolbbenallie: hmm. ok, in that case i'm out of ideas, sorry.10:13
james23Colloid, version 3.010:13
Colloidjames: i dont' beleive that ;p10:13
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Colloidjames: considering hoary comes with 4.3.1010:13
james23No, sorry, my bad10:13
bur[n] erSeveas: any idea on the docklet .deb?10:13
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UbuntuN00bHow do I extract a .tar.gz?10:14
bbenallieHappyFool: it didn't find the module either when I typed "old_scheme_first=y" on boot as well10:14
endy_xtrigg, cos so far i got the module name in /etc/modules and the options line in a file on /etc/modprobe.d10:14
triggendy_x: I would think so . . . you could try putting the options in /etc/grub/menu.lst when you invoke the kernel10:14
james23Colloid, it says 4:4.4.0-110:14
HappyFoolbbenallie: it didn't find usbcore?10:14
james23Colloid, I was looking in the wrong place ;-)10:14
mcphailUbuntuN00b: tar -xvzf x.tar.gz10:14
Colloidjames23: perfect, thanks.10:14
HappyFoolbbenallie: you used modprobe ?10:14
bur[n] erUbuntuN00b: using file-roller10:14
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bur[n] erUbuntuN00b: double-click it10:14
james23Colloid, I'm just getting used to Ubuntu. I was always die-hard Fedora/Redhat until now10:15
deFryskUbuntuN00b, rightklick it in your filemanager and choose extract here10:15
endy_xtrigg, doesnt grub only pass options to the kernel as opposed to any modules?10:15
triggendy_x: just curious, what modules are you passing parameters to?10:15
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Colloidjames32: that's ok...i still run xp on my desktop@10:15
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endy_xtrigg, "usbhid" i need the "mousepoll" option to work10:15
Colloidjames32: :p10:15
charlesjanybody have any experience setting up mplayer?10:16
deFryskColloid, I also run away from it10:16
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triggendy_x: yeah, I think your right - have you tried putting the options in the modules file?10:16
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bbenallieHappyFool: /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first" exists10:16
HappyFoolbbenallie: which implies the module was loaded10:16
endy_xtrigg, yeah but for some reason it doesn work, even for a manual modprobe :S10:16
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TrebzAfter 4 days of configuration I have Ubuntu all working.....Now what?10:16
bbenallieHappyFool: yeah, hmmm10:17
ColloiddeFrysk: ?10:17
typo_https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144010:17
triggendy_x: are you using your modprobe.conf?10:17
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typo_i have silent data corruption on my ubuntu install :(10:17
deFryskColloid, nm10:17
bbenallieHappyFool: let me try the echo commands again10:17
typo_are there any solutions for this yet ?10:17
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HappyFoolbbenallie: is the drive very new?10:17
endy_xtrigg, there is no modprobe.conf on my system I assumed ubuntu had a different method :S should ther be?10:17
triggendy_x: try creating a /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf and using the options command10:18
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endy_xtransgress, ok i'll give it a go :)10:18
oupaloupatrigg : re10:18
vern401I nrrd some help installing a wireless card in ubuntu10:18
endy_xtrigg, , ok i'll give it a go :)10:18
Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38610:18
oupaloupatrigg : I have now graphic with vesa :)10:18
i3dmastermcphail: got it. looks like it creates a sub menu on the right click menu and put scripts there. still not as easy as on the first level but much better than nothing.10:18
bbenallieHapyFool: I gues it's kinda new. it's an external drive from cooldrives.com10:18
stoeptegelis that pastebin working at the moment?10:18
triggoupaloupa: wonderful!10:18
triggoupaloupa: btw, what ati card do you have?10:19
i3dmastermcphail: removing the "open terminal" is just not a good idea for gnome 2.12...10:19
oupaloupatrigg : but ati neither radeon neither fglxr works :(10:19
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windextypo_, silent data corruption is usually a result of a failing disk, otherwise it's experienced by hundreds.10:19
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mcphaili3dmaster: sorry, best i could do ;)10:19
oupaloupatrigg : ati mobilty radeon x70010:19
typo_windex: no. this is a case of SATA/PATA driver bugs..10:19
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windextypo_, ah. no idea then.10:19
windextypo_, if it says 'experimental' it is. :)10:19
i3dmastermcphail: that's very good. I didn't even know how to do that before. So thanks very much10:20
typo_windex: thats not helpful. the hardware i use is claimed to be supported10:20
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windextypo_, how can you be sure it's a driver bug?10:20
triggoupaloupa: odd.  xorg-xserver-driver-ati installed?10:21
typo_windex: i only get _cdrom_ silent data corruption, when i enable SATA10:21
typo_the harddrive isn't even used yet10:21
oupaloupatrigg : yep[10:21
windexthat might not be a problem with the driver?10:21
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typo_and i've tried all combinations of master/slave and primary/secondary sata/pata and bios10:21
kevogodwindex, But it might be?10:21
triggoupaloupa: weird.10:21
typo_windex: what else ?10:21
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typo_and i've changed all the cables. and there are bugzilla entries about similiar issues10:22
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typo_so i doubt i'm wrong about my guess that this is a software issue.10:22
oupaloupatrigg : u can say that ;-)10:22
ReX_what's the official breezy package for "Edit GNOME menus"?10:22
deFryskReX_, smeg10:22
ReX_ok10:22
ColloidSMEGMA10:22
KyralWhoa..10:22
windextypo_, it might be a software issue, but it might not be with the driver. could be firmware/driver combination, etc. does the drive need special drivers under windows?10:23
Kyralthats wierd10:23
ReX_thanks DeFi10:23
Colloidsmeg is a great package name10:23
deFryskColloid, yuk10:23
triggoupaloupa: ha ;)  well, at least vesa works.10:23
ReX_thanks deFrysk :)10:23
typo_windex: i don't own a copy of windows10:23
Kyralmy Wireless card disappeared offa the Network Devices box...10:23
typo_but i doubt it does10:23
windextypo_, and, btw, i am not attacking you, it's just that fixing a software problem is a lot harder, so ruling out hardware entirely is usually the first step.10:23
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triggoupaloupa: just thought about it - maybe if you add fglrx to the top of your /etc/modules file . . .10:23
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smotthm in the 5.10 preview... i cant get it to change the keyboard layout... ive changed it from US to SI in the keyboard preferences but it didnt work... ive also changed it from US to SI in xorg.conf, but this also didnt work. any ideas?10:23
endy_xtrigg, didn't work, I'm really running out of ideas now and google isn't helping :S10:24
cs_DKsmott: file a bug10:24
Bad_Magichmm, anyone have any guesses as to why my wireless card suddenly vanished?10:24
typo_windex: sure. but it is annoying. you're telling me i have a hardware problem when there are pages and pages about SATA/PATA problems that behave like this10:24
typo_i'm looking for someone who had similiar problems and found a solutions10:24
KyralBad_Magic, you using Breezy?10:24
stoeptegelsuddenly i can't access or mount my usb stick anymore.   $ sudo mount /dev/sdb1  ->  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,      missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try   dmesg | tail  or so.    Anyone knows what i'am looking at?10:24
Bad_Magickyral: nope10:24
KyralSame thing just happened to me10:24
typo_i've switched everything from cables and bios options to ubuntu cdroms10:24
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windextypo_, im saying you have to eliminate the possibility of a hardware problem before you can blame a software problem, since the hardware problem can be troubleshooted by you, and the software one probably can't.10:24
typo_windex: i've done that.10:25
triggendy_x: hmm . . . I am also at a loss.  I assume you tried the forums?10:25
Colloidwindex: not with oss!10:25
oupaloupatrigg : brb gonna check10:25
endy_xyeah, hehe I thought i'd ask here while I wait too :)10:25
windextypo_, ok, then ignore me. i wont try.10:25
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bbenallieHappyFool: this is what I am trying to mount, haha http://www.cooldrives.com/sidrfi80usb2.html10:25
ReX_I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, and reading the 5.10preview announce, I read about USplash, because a install usplash package, but when restating my laptop it not have a graphical boot, any ideas?10:26
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triggoupaloupa: k10:26
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GreyFoxhello10:26
Bad_Magicr10:26
Bad_Magicwhoops10:26
HappyFoolbbenallie: i'm afraid all i can suggest is google at this point10:27
deFryskReX_, vga setting too high in menu.list or something ?10:27
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KyralIts being picked up by lspci..10:27
Kyralbut its just...gone10:27
bbenallieHappyFool: thanks, seriously, for everything. I was hoping to be able to mount this with the Ubuntu live cd10:27
ReX_deFrysk, checking...10:27
bbenallieHappyFool: but, looks like a lost cause now. It's a shame because the ubuntu live cd is so awesome10:27
HappyFoolbbenallie: ask again here (in #ubuntu) at a different time; maybe someone more in the know will be on.10:28
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Bad_Magicany idea why i dont have  wlan0, when i had one earlier and lspci still shows my nic?10:28
bbenalliealrighty, will do!10:28
Bad_Magic^^10:28
ReX_deFrysk, I don't see vga settings in my menu.lst10:28
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deFryskReX_, a sec10:29
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MikeStylehi, i downloaded the ABC bittorrent client, and its all python and i have no idea how to install it10:30
Hoxzerwhat is good software for Lan sharings from ubuntu to ubuntu?10:30
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triggHoxzer, install ssh and then connect via nautilus10:31
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Hoxzerssh :)10:31
MikeStyle......10:31
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HoxzerTrigg: can you tell me how should I connect with nautilus ;/10:31
matsis there any good sharewares programs? like limewire..10:31
MikeStylemats : Apollon10:32
Hoxzerdo you mean open-ssh when you said ssh?10:32
triggHoxzer: yes, open-ssh10:32
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matsMikeStyle: thanks :-)10:32
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OCA|Has anyone here had success installing Ubuntu 5.04 on an external USB2 drive? The install succeeded, but grub complains it can't find the drive for any of the boot options (grub installed on MBR of external drive, bios set to boot external drive)10:32
MikeStylemats, go to www.kde-apps.org and search for apollon, best one out there atm10:32
MikeStylethen install from source10:32
triggHoxzer: as long as you have sshd running on the comp you want to connect too ... in Nautilus, File | Connect to server . . .10:33
triggHoxzer: enter the appropriate information :)10:33
typo_OCA|: i'm trying to right now :)10:33
MikeStylenow, can anyone help me with my problem?10:33
typo_OCA|: i'll report in a few minutes10:34
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OCA|typo_: Thanks10:34
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matsMikeStyle: okey okey! thanks for all the help. Iv heard of apollon before.. but couldnt remember the name :)10:34
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triggHoxzer: it will mount whatever folder you ask it to, and put the icon on your desktop10:34
deFryskReX_, what type of monitor you hve ?10:34
deFryskin inches ?10:34
MikeStylemats, once u install it then let me know , ill get you the script that lets u connect to kazaa fasttrack10:34
ReX_14 lcd (a laptop)10:34
deFrysk800x600 ?10:35
ReX_1024x76810:35
matsMikeStyle: nice :) fasttrack is the #1 network..10:35
MikeStyleyep10:35
MikeStyleits also got gift and Gnutella built in10:35
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MikeStylebut my ares one doesnt connect for some reason and i cant find open nap10:35
deFryskReX_, vga=79010:36
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MikeStylei downloaded the ABC bittorrent client, and its all python and i have no idea how to install it10:36
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poypoyHmm, should linux-wlan-ng be installed already? I tried "sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng" as an how-to told me, but it feed's back "E: Couldn't find package linux-wlan-ng"... Ideas?10:36
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typo_i hate hardware10:36
nakatais Ubuntu subject to US export restrictions?10:36
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CookedGryphonI hate winmodems!10:36
deFryskReX_, put that at the end of the kernel line10:36
nakataby 'Ubuntu' I'm referring to the media (CD) and possibly access to the official repositories10:36
matsMikeStyle: isnt a readme-file with it?10:36
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Bad_Magic#ndiswrapper10:36
Bad_Magicer10:36
ReX_deFrysk, ok, thanks10:37
logiquehmm10:37
deFryskReX_, not sure if it works but it should10:37
HoxzerTrigg: hmmm do I need to setup some kind  of shares cause I cant connect anywhere10:37
logiqueanyone else know how to mount external USB drives with the ubuntu live cd?10:37
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triggHoxzer: do you have a firewall?10:37
nakatalogique, mount /dev/sda1 /mnt10:37
deFryskReX_, let me know if it does ok ?10:37
ritalinanyone have a orkut account? I have  to try all things google ;)10:37
nakatalogique, there's probably an easier way10:38
nakatai just don't know the livecd :/10:38
nakataor an easier way10:38
logiquenakata: I get this message "device descriptor read/64, error -71"10:38
CookedGryphonDoes anyone have any ideas, i'm running slmodem 2.9.9d to make my winmodem work, sometimes it does, then sometimes it doesn't, i don't know what i'm doing wrong10:38
nakatahuh10:38
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nakatais the drive intact?10:38
logiquewhen I dmesg | tail -2010:38
Hoxzertrigg: they can ping eachother10:38
logiquenakata: it's a NTFS formatted drive, it works with other MS machines10:38
triggHoxzer: I don't think you can browse for an ssh server, you have to just enter the IP address . . . check to make sure you have port 21 open10:38
HoxzerI dont understand ... if I connect via ssh and I haven't setup anything why should it let me in :D10:38
nakatadoes the kernel have NTFS support10:38
logiquenakata: I want to format it as ext310:39
triggHoxzer: or is it 22 . . . either way10:39
nakataah10:39
windexnakata, 'read' support, yes, 'write' support, kinda.10:39
nakatafdisk /dev/sda, first, then.10:39
nakatawindex, i know this.10:39
Hoxzer.... but I haven't setup anything to share ? ;/10:39
nakatawindex, 'write' is trash.10:39
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nakatalogique, i can only assume you have no scsi or sata drives in there10:39
logiquenakata: I ran the "fdisk -l" and /mnt/sda1 doesn't show up10:39
nakataotherwise, the letter would likely be different10:39
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nakatayou don't fdisk sda1, you fdisk /dev/sda10:40
trigghoxzer, I think it's port 22.  make sure that sshd is running and configured on the machine you want to connect to10:40
nakata1 is a partition identifier10:40
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logiquenakata: it doesn't show any sda* mounts at all :(10:40
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EvanCarrollhow do i find what tty or ptty i am using ?10:40
nightswimtype10:40
nightswim"tty"10:40
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nakatawell, does "fdisk /dev/sda" work10:41
EyelandScan anyone tell me how to make it when i type getegg i get the eggdrop files from / (root)10:41
EvanCarrollah the aptly titled tty10:41
matsi wonder why gcc isnt defult in ubuntu-install10:41
Bad_Magicanyone have any idea why im getting fatal errors with ndiswrapper when i try to modprobe it?10:41
EvanCarrolldear god10:41
poypoyShould linux-wlan-ng be installed on the system as default?10:41
ReX_deFrysk, the vga mode works (chars now are very small), but not have graphical boot :(10:41
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triggBad_Magic: are you modprobing with root privs?10:41
deFryskrex try vga=78410:41
ReX_ok10:42
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logiquenakata: nope10:42
concept10mats: save space, everyone doesnt require build-tools10:42
EyelandShello?10:42
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snausageshow do i add rar file support in ubuntu?10:43
ReX_deFrysk, the end of your kernel line is "vga=XXX splash" or "splash vga=XXX" ?10:43
triggsnausages: apt-get install unrar10:43
deFrysksudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree10:43
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snausagesso which one, heh10:43
triggor that ;)10:43
vern401how do I know what driver version to get for my ralink wireless card?10:43
logiquenakata:  I've done the "echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first" command, then I did a "dmesg | tail -20"10:43
nakatawell10:43
deFryskReX_, I have no references to vga10:43
nakatai have no idea then, logique.10:43
triggunrar-nonfree will work on the most recent rar files10:43
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nakataseems to me that the device isn't properly supported?10:44
EyelandScan anyone tell me when i type getegg i get eggdrop from the root file10:44
cvtwhat plugin will play .dat and .tao movie files?10:44
nakataperhaps you're missing a module, no idea10:44
logiquenakata: and it still gives me the "device descriptor read/64, error -71" errors :(10:44
pestilenceis it possible to run memtest from either the livecd or the install cd for hoary?10:44
pestilenceif so, how?10:44
triggpestilence: type memtest  at the bootprompt10:44
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logiquenakata: hmm, could be, I'm using the liveCD, which is what I ideally want to do10:44
pestilencetrigg: i tried that, no dice... Could not find kernel image: memtest10:44
rainmakerim having some problems adding the backport repos to my sources.list10:44
logiqueboot up the liveCD and create ext3 storage drives10:44
deFryskReX_, but i would but it right behind root=/dev/hdblabla10:45
triggpestilence: hold on one sec . . .10:45
rainmakerapt-get spits out error messeges10:45
snausagesok, when i have that installed, how do i unrar a file? "extract here" from the menu didnt work10:45
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triggpestilence: memtest8610:45
pestilencetrigg: nope.10:45
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deFrysksnausages, unrar x file (i think)10:46
triggpestilence: do you have grub installed10:46
trigg?10:46
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triggpestilence: try memtest86+.bin10:46
pestilencetrigg: i want to run it from a cd...i.e. livecd or install cd10:46
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mirak_when I download kernel source 2.6.12, how can I make the source evolve to 2.6.12-8 level ? so it's like the headers ?10:47
pestilencetrigg: nope.  must not be on the livecd10:47
snausagesdeFrysk thanks, that worked.10:47
rainmakercan anyone help me adding backport repos?10:47
deFryskcool10:47
deFrysk!backports10:47
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:47
mirak_hhelp10:47
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rainmakerwell10:47
Bad_Magicyay for having to hack together ndiswrapper as usual10:47
rainmakeri know how to ad them10:47
Bad_Magicgot it working again10:47
Bad_Magic=)10:47
rainmakerbut it isnt working10:47
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triggpestilence: hmm . . . did you try the install cd?10:48
snausagesso, i just found out that, apparently the terminal wants correct capitalization when you change dirs10:48
snausagesi didnt know that10:48
pestilencetrigg: yes10:48
Bad_Magiclol10:48
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deFryskrainmaker, paste your sources.list in some pastebin10:48
rainmakeri'll pm you10:48
triggpestilence: maybe knoppix . . .10:48
deFryskrainmaker, NO!10:48
pestilencetrigg: if i have to burn another cd, i'll just burn memtest86 ;)10:48
deFryskno pmming10:48
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typo_i want an ubuntu appliance that doesn't require me ever touching hardware again10:49
triggpestilience: ;)  that would make more sense . . .10:49
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rainmakerdeFrysk, what? no?10:50
LasseLany of you that has a cron job configured to automatically run apt-get ?10:50
deFryskno privating10:50
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rainmakerwell i cant post the entire configuration file in the mainchannel10:50
olalI have tried to get dualhead working on my laptop (ATI Radeon 7500). Im using MergedFB has anyone had any luck with that?10:50
deFryskrainmaker, anyway your sources seem correct10:50
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rainmakerbut then, why isnt it working :(10:51
deFryskrainmaker, have synaptic open or something ?10:51
rainmakerno i dont have synaptic open10:51
deFrysksudo apt-get update did not go ?10:51
rainmakernope10:51
triggpestilence: I am looking at the breezy install CD and it claims that you can do a memtest from the boot prompt10:51
rainmakerthats when it tells me it cant go to the package url10:51
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rainmakerwell oh10:52
rainmakerapt-get update did work10:52
rainmaker:P10:52
rainmakerthanks10:52
GnonthgolSeveas: where to gte the source code for /sbin/getty?10:52
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deFryskrainmaker, found it10:52
deFryskist hoary-extrs , not hoary- extras10:53
rainmakerbrb10:53
deFryskhoary-extras10:53
Bad_Magicanyone suggest any gui wlan setup utils?10:53
=== Decadent Goodnight everyone
concept10!info networkmanager10:53
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Bad_Magic!info10:54
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Bad_Magic!info networkmanager10:54
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zen3Can someone please tell me, how to disable (prevent from starting) some service in /etc/rc2.d/ (default runlevel) through `update-rc` command?10:55
cvtwhy can't i get permission to delete my files?10:55
triggzen3: install BUM and manage them in gnome! :)10:55
cvti'm trying to delete a file on my external hd but it says i don't have access.10:55
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concept10Bad_Magic: what do you need?10:56
cvtand i can't even do it with gksudo nautilus10:56
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triggcvt: unmount, ensure that "users" is next "defaults" in fstab10:56
triggcvt: then mount the drive again10:56
EyelandSeh10:56
cvtk10:56
SeveasGnonthgol, apt-get source util-linux10:56
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Bad_Magiclooking for a gui setup for my wireless card10:57
concept10Bad_Magic: you cant use the default network settings tool?10:57
Bad_Magicjust curious if there are any other suggestinos10:57
Bad_Magicis all10:57
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Bad_Magiclike to browse my options10:57
Bad_Magic=P10:57
GnonthgolSeveas: thanks10:57
edockerhi all10:58
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concept10Bad_Magic: there is networkmanager, but it requires alot to get working and another tool, gimme a sec10:58
emilenetapplet?10:58
cvttrigg, i don't see that option10:58
Bad_Magick10:58
DerkommissarIs there a howto for ugrading to Breezy from hoary ?10:58
Bad_Magicalso im using ndiswrapper... so i know some utils dont work with it10:58
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GhostFreemanWhat kernel should I use for a 600MHz Celeron10:58
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deFryskDerkommissar, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:58
Derkommissarthanks10:59
triggcvt: it should look something like this: /dev/hd(whatever)   /mnt/sharedrive   reiserfs  defaults,users 0 010:59
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cvtCould not delete10:59
emilecvt is it ntfs?10:59
cvti have no clue10:59
deFryskxp formatted ?10:59
cvtyes10:59
cvti had xp before this11:00
deFryskntfs it is probably11:00
edockercvt: try cfdisk [device]  it will tell you the true11:00
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triggcvt: if it is mounted then you can just go to a console and type less /etc/mtab11:00
emilecvt: can you type a mount|grep ntfs on your command prompt11:00
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cvt???11:00
cvti don't understand11:01
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cvtcfdisk [device] ?11:01
cvttype less /etc/mtab?11:01
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BubbleflyHow do I associate lastfm:// links with last-fm?11:01
caravenaHello: missing ln -s gstreamer-register-0.8 gstreamer-register, testing breezy... BUG?11:01
emilecvt: applications, system tools, terminal and you get a command prompt11:01
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cvtemile, right11:02
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cvti'm there11:02
makkkHey everyone. I seem to have a discrepancy between the System Monitor's Available memory and what I know i physically have. Anyone know anything about this?11:02
yuachtDerkommissar, default11:02
=== trigg thanks emile
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popeymakkk: how much total memory do you have?11:02
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yuachtDerkommissar, or maybe i68611:02
emilecvt: can you find out if your external drive is ntfs?11:02
moosejust a quick question, where is the server list for xchat?11:02
popeymoose: CTRL+S11:03
triggmoose: X-Chat | Servers . . .11:03
cvtemile, i know it is11:03
cvtntfs11:03
cvti remember that11:03
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triggcvt: you can't write ntfs in linux . . . well you can, just very buggy11:03
mooseI meant the actual server list, as in the file that contains all the server details11:03
makkkpopey, well, I know I have a 1 gig stick and a 256 stick, system monitor has 604 mb of 885 mb user memory, then some swap is being used as well11:03
cvtso i can't delete files now?11:04
emilecvt: there is no ntfs write support11:04
triggcvt: you can overwrite a file, but only with a file of the exact same size11:04
popeymakkk: you need to recompile your kernel to use more than 850-900MB11:04
popeymakkk: linux can't see above about 900 MB without it11:04
cvtomfg11:04
holycowyou don't haveto recompile11:04
holycowjust use the right one11:04
popeyoh?11:04
popeyhehe11:04
makkkpopey, is there a howto for this in the forums that you know of?11:04
popeyok, sorry, that's more true11:04
triggcvt: windows=closed src11:04
moosenm, I found it11:04
popeyi have 1GB of RAM here, need to sort that11:04
triggcvt: you can, of course, copy what you need, then wipe the whole partition.11:05
makkkholocow, were you talking to me? whats the right one?11:05
jsteidlpopey: i would like to have your problems ;)11:05
Seveaspopey, standard ubuntu kernels can easily see all ram...11:05
popeyreally?11:05
popeyhmmm11:05
holycowfor amd use the amd ones for the x86 cpus  the 686 kernels11:05
popeyMem:    906660k total,11:06
holycowthe 386 ones dont seem more the 900 megs i think11:06
popey^^ is what "top" says11:06
cvttrigg, do i have to set the drive to FAT?11:06
Seveaspopey, uname -r?11:06
popey2.6.10-5-38611:06
makkkholycow, i have a centrino, what should i do?11:06
bitkromthis is cool a system nested within a system using dbootstrap?11:06
holycowhow much ram do you have again?11:06
makkki have 1.256 gigs11:06
Seveaspopey, grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo11:06
popeyAMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+11:06
Seveasmakkk, install linux-68611:06
popeyknew you'd ask that :)11:06
holycowtry yeah 68611:06
popeyme too?11:07
Seveaspopey, linux-k7 or linux-68611:07
holycowno11:07
holycowyou need th ek711:07
popeyexcellent, thank you11:07
holycowwhat the dude said11:07
makkkholycow, can i do that from synaptic?11:07
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popeyI'm so glad I hang around in here :)11:07
holycowmakkk, yes11:07
Seveasmakkk, of course11:07
triggcvt: it will only work if the drive is actually formatted as fat11:07
Seveasjust search for the package name11:07
makkkthanks guys, i 'll try11:07
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popeythank you Seveas and holycow11:07
CookedGryphonHey, i'm trying to modprobe a module that's in the current folder, but when i say modprobe ./slamr.ko it comes up not found11:08
popeywill it actually be any faster to use the -k7 or -686 over the -386 kernel?11:08
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chavopopey, I'm using the k7 kernel, but you can't tell the difference11:09
popeyok11:09
holycowno, just let you use more ram11:09
makkkwait, what is k7 for?11:09
emileand what about non intel/non amd processor kernels (mine is a via samuel 2)11:09
holycowmakkk, amd11:09
chavoathlon11:09
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makkkahh ok11:09
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cvttrigg, so you're telling me i can't delete a file from my harddrive because it's nfts?11:10
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popeycvt: that's right, you can't write to ntfs reliably under linux11:11
emilecvt: that's right11:11
popeydeleting is writing11:11
Seveaspopey, it will not11:11
twidsSpeaking of ntfs, wasnt there a project called captive ntfs that gave read and write support using wine?11:11
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Seveasunless you compiled it yourself11:11
cvtntfs11:11
Seveaswhich you should never do11:11
triggcvt: okay.  you can't delete the file specifically, unless you boot into windows.11:11
popeycan't remember :)11:11
popeyreally? why?11:11
popeyit was unreliable..11:11
popeyso i switched back to the ubuntu packaged one iirc11:11
popeyso should be okay then..11:11
cvttrigg, oh you mean with a live win2k disk?11:12
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emilewhere can you find out what kernel is optimized for a type of processor?11:12
triggcvt: yes11:12
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triggcvt: or you can copy any *needed* files, to a different partition, wipe your ntfs disk, reformat it as reiserfs or ext3 and then copy the *needed* files back11:13
triggcvt: unless of course you still dual boot win2k or xp11:13
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cvtit's 250gB worth of files--i have no where to put them11:14
cvttrigg,11:14
deFryskuse vfat11:14
typo_external harddrive11:14
deFryskxp and linux can handle that11:14
typo_OCA|: my bios doesn't find the usb drive and can't boot from it..11:14
Bad_Magicanyone know anything about CUPS and dell printers?11:14
triggcvt: well . . . hmm. Does the disk contain the windows installation?11:14
steevei have a 19"monitor and a geforce4 agp card but I don't seem to be able to get a screen resolution greater than 1024 x768?11:15
popeyaren't dell printers rebadged other printers11:15
Bad_Magicyea, thats what ive heard11:15
holycowyes they are11:15
holycowhp's infact11:15
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Bad_Magicbut i have had 0 luck getting mine to work11:15
popeylexmark or something?11:15
cvttrigg, i have win2k [burnt copy]  and my own winxp cd.11:15
gabucan any 1 say to me where can i find a server fron brazil?11:15
windexpopey, sometimes they are only built for dell. dell typically sources equipment from the cheapest vendor.11:15
__filip_someone in here that run alinux and ubuntu dual booting?11:15
deFrysklexmark is no go on linux is my experience11:15
triggcvt: do you have an empty partition to install xp to?11:15
popeysteeve: you can use gtf to generate the necessary config for your xorg.conf11:15
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windexpopey, but dell produces NOTHING. they only assemble and package things.11:15
popeysteeve: I did this and it worked well11:15
cvti don't know how i would access files from a live cd of windows.11:15
cvttrigg, no11:15
popeytrue11:16
Bad_MagicDell A920 = lexmark something or other11:16
Bad_Magicthat i know11:16
steeveok thanks popey i will explore that11:16
gabuno 1?11:16
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Bad_Magicthe gnome printer setup utility even recognizes it as a dell a920 on usb #211:16
Bad_Magicbut i cant get it to work11:16
Bad_Magic=\11:16
popeynice11:16
popeyoh :(11:16
triggcvt: if it is vitally important that you delete this file, then wipe ubuntu, install xp or 2k, delete your file, convert the file system to FAT32, then reinstall ubuntu and be done with windows11:16
test34any idea when breezy gonna be final ?11:16
windexBad_Magic, its because that's what the usb device ID says it is.11:17
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Bad_Magicthat doesnt help me any11:17
Bad_Magic=P11:17
deFryskBad_Magic, its like my wife , I recognize her but cant get it to work11:17
jojHi! I have kanotix (don't be mad on me) and I have downloaded ubuntu driver for Intel 536 EP . I have installed it before and it worked but now I have a problem. I installed driver just like in UbuntuWIKI tutorial exept I didn't install build-essential . I have used patched for kernel 2.6.10 ... Now when I try to connect with KPPP it sais 'Modem ready... Initializing...' and then nothing ... when I try to connect with 'wvdial' I get: "Sending: ATZ, Resend: 11:17
Seveastest34, october 1311:17
StarryskyHi, i just very "very" recently installed ubuntu. Can anyone tell me how i should preform an app serch by keywords as i would in gentoo with the command emerge (for instance:$ emerge -s xmms); and if the listing in ubuntu carry along description of the programms contents. Thank you in advance.11:17
test34Seveas, thnaks11:17
holycowapt-cache search appname11:17
windexdeFrysk, +111:17
Red_Bulletare appear bsplayer for linux11:17
typo_windex: i've now successfully installed using knoppix, and will convert to ubuntu from there..11:17
typo_so i guess it wasn't a hardware problem11:17
Bad_Magicstarrysky: if you are running gnome you can use the package manager in the system menu11:18
Bad_Magicstarrysky: otherwise i couldnt tell ya =x11:18
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windexprolly not. but i don't have your hardware, and i always check hardware first.11:18
Starryskytks11:18
triggStarrysky: apt-cache search appname --holycow was the first to respond11:18
Starryskytrigg thank you also, and i noticed the first reply :P11:18
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cvttrigg, k thx11:19
triggcvt: no problem.  hope it all works out.11:19
jojanyone to help me?11:19
Red_Bullettell me other player than xine mplayer kaffeline11:19
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OCA|typo_: So for you, Grub doesn't show up at all?11:20
Bad_Magicare there any graphical instant messengers? (ie i want to ssh in and use my aol imer account)11:20
Bad_Magicer text based11:20
Bad_Magicnot graphical11:20
Bad_Magicdrrrr11:20
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Seveasbitlbee11:20
triggcvt: ps - there is a ntfs write patch, that you could allow you to write jibberish over a file and effectively delete it - it would just be a file of the same size with nonsense.  Try googling "ntfs write support linux"11:20
mcphailStarrysky: you can also apt-get install first_few_letters_then_double_tab (but I think you might have to enable bash programmable completion first)11:20
cvttrigg, do you know why ubuntu says i have ~800mB of ram when i really have 1gB + 256mB of ram?11:20
__filip_someone run alinux in here?11:20
typo_OCA|: my bios doesn't detect the harddrive, so i don't get near grub11:20
popeyBad_Magic: yes there's another one as well as bitlbee, can't remember it's name..11:20
jojDAMN! nobody to help me ????!?11:21
cvttrigg, k11:21
Seveascvt, use a -686 or -k7 kernel11:21
OCA|typo_: Crap =(11:21
popeyjoj, just ask your question11:21
triggcvt: There is a bug in the most recent kernel version that will  only allow you to see the first 800mb of ram from a single dimm11:21
Jonte--Does anyone know how I change the default window manager? (I want to use fluxbox instead of gnome)11:21
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Bad_Magicbitlbee is an ircd11:21
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Bad_Magicit looks like11:21
popeyjoj: sorry, missed it11:21
popeyBad_Magic: it is11:21
jojpopey: I have kanotix (don't be mad on me) and I have downloaded ubuntu driver for Intel 536 EP . I have installed it before and it worked but now I have a problem. I installed driver just like in UbuntuWIKI tutorial exept I didn't install build-essential . I have used patched for kernel 2.6.10 ... Now when I try to connect with KPPP it sais 'Modem ready... Initializing...' and then nothing ... when I try to connect with 'wvdial' I get: "Sending: ATZ, Resen11:21
triggcvt: I think I read about it on the gentoo forums a while back11:21
popeyBad_Magic: very handy for using irc from work11:21
Bad_Magicoh11:21
Bad_Magicno11:21
bitkromcan someone tell me how o fix this error? (firefox-bin:31989): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.11:21
Bad_Magici just ssh into my laptop11:21
makkkholycow, i'm am now happy with all of my RAM being recognized. thank you11:21
Bad_Magicim saying aim11:21
SeveasBad_Magic, it's a gateway to other protocols11:21
bitkrom        Using the fallback 'C' locale.11:21
Bad_Magici cant even install aim11:22
cvttrigg, so the bug fix would possibly fix that?11:22
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bluefoxicyI just plugged a USB-serial RS232 adapter in11:22
Bad_Magicon my school comp11:22
bluefoxicyanyone know how to find it?11:22
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popeyBad_Magic: bitlbee will work fine11:22
Seveasbitkrom, install language-support-YOUR_LANGUAGE and do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:22
bluefoxicyBus 002 Device 002: ID 0764:0005 Cyber Power System, Inc.11:22
makkkrandom question, are these conversations being logged? I think one could find a whole lot of answers if one could search these11:22
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triggcvt: I would think so, best to google it, I am not a kernel dev by any means11:22
cevizogluyou can't install **aim**???11:22
bluefoxicy[4308428.833000]  hiddev97: USB HID v1.10 Device [Cyber Power System CPS RS232 USB BRIDGE for UPS]  on usb-0000:00:10.1-211:22
Seveasmakkk, /topic11:22
cvtk11:22
Bad_Magicaol instant messenger11:22
Bad_Magicyes11:22
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popeyBad_Magic: use gaim?11:22
cevizogluon what platform?11:22
Bad_Magici  am11:22
jojNOBODY?!11:22
Bad_Magicim saying i want to SSH in remotely11:22
Seveasjoj, screaming does not help...11:23
Bad_Magicand use it AIM ala irssi/bitchx/ircii11:23
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popeyi use https --> cgiirc --> bitlbee --> msn/yahoo/jabber/gmail/aol11:23
jojSeveas: nothing helps !11:23
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jojdamned11:23
Seveasjoj, then ask on the mailing list11:23
jojnobody ever helped me here11:23
popeyjoj: or in #kubuntu11:23
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shawnzMy box is randomly lagging with loadavs at about 12, and no programs are starting11:24
bitkromSeveas: how come it wants to install open office stuff?11:24
fanskapetHmm one should get more than around 300 fps in fgl_glxgears if hardware OGL was supported correctly.. aight?11:24
shawnzmy friend said it was a socket problem so I rebooted, and now gdm doesn't want to get past loading11:24
Seveasbitkrom, what does?11:24
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bitkromSeveas: language-support-en11:24
thomerz_can someone advise me a dvb-t tv-card for ubuntu?11:25
Seveasyes11:25
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bitkromSeveas: why do i have to have language support?11:25
bitkromor locales11:25
h17m4nI get 415 fps with a few tasks open11:25
Seveasthat includes the firefox language support11:25
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bluefoxicyhmm, no driver.11:25
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popeythomerz_: I hear good things about http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=1253&cat=133&page=111:25
mcphailfanskapet: not on my laptop...11:26
popey"TwinhanDTV Alpha"11:26
shawnz?11:26
h17m4nI get 415 on my laptop......11:26
bluefoxicyegad.11:26
bitkromSeveas: im still getting the error. Not support by C library11:26
bluefoxicygeek squad UPS is a repacked cyberpower shite.11:27
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emilei have some files on desktop which i can't see on the desktop, however ls/nautilus does show them.. any idea on how to make them visible?11:27
bitkromdo i need locales?11:27
marcin_anthi all! - I would like to buy card reader (multiple formats - for 3,5" bay) and as I use Ubuntu exclusively on my desktop then of course I need to buy something that is fully supported - any recomendations?11:27
fanskapetmcphail: okey so it should be active then?11:27
bitkromLocale not supported by C library.11:27
bitkrom        Using the fallback 'C' locale.11:27
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fanskapetmcphail: from the benchmarks i've seen they've got around 1000 fps11:27
fanskapetthat's why i wondered if it was really active11:28
triggemile: your Desktop directory should be /home/emile/Desktop, not /home/emile/nautilus11:28
thomerz_popey, never heard about twinhan before, i'm afraid i cant get this in austria, whats about happauge's products?11:28
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mcphailfanskapet: I suspect so. fgl-glxgears should run _very_ badly without it11:28
popeyi don't know11:28
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emiletrigg: my desktop is in ~/Desktop but files in there don't appear on screen (but i can see them while browsing/ls)11:29
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Bad_Magicgotta love laptop drivers11:30
Seveasemile, click the shiw desktop thing in the bottom left and hit <ctrl>r11:30
jojdamn11:30
jojdamn11:30
zen82Can some please tell me how to disable starting of some script (service) in some (default) runlevel using "update-rc" program?11:30
jojdamn11:30
snorksemile: hit ctrl+h11:30
jojdamn11:30
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Bad_Magic2000 fps in glxgears -> fans wind-up and boom 5500 fps11:30
Bad_Magic=P11:30
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popeyheh11:30
fanskapetmcphail: have you tried a much more intensive ogl app like eg. doom or some other ogl game?11:30
popeywhat laptop Bad_Magic ?11:30
snorksemile: fixed your problem?11:30
triggemile: hit CTRL+R on your desktop11:31
emilectrl-r not working11:31
shawnz<shawnz> My box is randomly lagging with loadavs at about 12, and no programs are starting11:31
Bad_Magicinspiron 910011:31
fanskapeti cannot try that since im on a amd64 system :)11:31
popeyBad_Magic: I have just ordered a Dell XPS Gen 2 P-M 2.1GHz / 2GB Ram :D11:31
emilenow trying h ;-)11:31
rob_pzen82:  update-rc.d -f the_script remove"11:31
bitkromwhat version is blender in breezy?11:31
shawnz<shawnz> my friend said it was a socket problem so I rebooted, and now gdm doesn't want to get past loading11:31
shawnz:(11:31
popeyBad_Magic: I cannot *wait* to get it :D11:31
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mcphailfanskapet: not under linux11:31
saubzi have a problem with my install.  i get the error message: one or more packages failed to install.  this may be due to bugs in the packages, or you may be out of disk space or experiencing some other problem.11:31
Bad_Magicexcept the ndiswrapper bullshit and my printer not working11:31
emilectrl-h not working either11:31
Bad_Magiceverything works great on mine11:31
Bad_Magicgig of ram p4 2.811:31
Bad_Magicand radeon 9600 mobility11:31
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popeyBad_Magic: I hear the newer kernels have the ndiswrapper stuff built in11:31
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popey2.6.13 or maybe even a late 2.6.12..11:32
Bad_Magicyea11:32
Bad_Magicit works fine finally11:32
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Bad_Magicbut you still cant do alot of shit with it11:32
rox__i cant install this .bin file, none of my commands are working, please help11:32
Bad_Magicsniffing et/al11:32
rox__god i cant believe this lol11:32
Seveasrox__, which bin file?11:32
Bad_Magicdue to broadcom being piles of shit11:32
zen82rob_p, from which runlevel will that comman remove specified script? As much as I understood from man pages that command will actualy erase script from /etc/init.d and not only link from some specific runlevel.11:32
rox__its jbx_linux.bin11:32
mcphailfanskapet: i just use it for the walking ant screensaver :)11:32
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saubzany solutions for my error?11:32
rox__its a java writing program11:33
Seveasrox__, chmod +x jbx_linux.bin11:33
emilesnorks, Seveas any other recommendations? i also tried killall gnome-panel11:33
Seveas./jbx_linux.bin11:33
zen82from which runlevel will that comman remove specified script? As much as I understood from man pages that command will actualy erase script from /etc/init.d and not only link from some specific runlevel.11:33
drunken-wallabyhi everyone...11:33
snorksemile: im out of ideas:(11:33
rox__its called something else but i tried it anyway11:33
rob_pzen82:  all of them11:33
rox__lol and it didnt work11:33
deFryskbedtime11:33
shawnzemile, ftr, the desktop icons are the responsibility of a nautilus process and not gnome-panel.11:33
nakataBad_Magic, mang on.11:33
nakatabang*11:34
rox__Name                    :  your name here11:34
rox__Programming experience  :  none or number of years11:34
rox__Computer science major  :  yes/no11:34
triggemile: check your your gconf settings and see if nautilus is drawing your desktop11:34
rox__whoops sorry guys didnt mean to paste11:34
rob_pzen82:  It won't erase the script from /etc/init.d, just from the run levels.11:34
deFryskrox__, try using sh instead of ./11:34
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shawnz:/11:35
koploperHi, i can't get my usb stich to work. What can i do?11:35
shawnzfs, its still loading11:35
emileshawnz: i did a killall -HUP nautilus and that fixed the problem11:35
emilethnx11:35
drunken-wallabyi just ran into a problem when upgrading a friends computer to the breezy preview version. the internet-connection stopped and i can't get it to work via "dhclient". anybody that may have a hint for me?11:35
popeydrunken-wallaby: yes, don't mess with friends pcs :D11:35
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triggkoploper: what kind of usb stick is it?11:35
Bad_Magicdont use it til its stable? =P11:35
emiletrigg: problem fixed by killal -HUP nautilus11:36
deFryskrox__, cute but no kissing please11:36
triggemile: rgr, glad that fixed it. ;)11:36
nakatahmm11:36
zen82rob_p, thanks, only two more questions: how would enable that scrip in some runlevel and disable starting in other runleves? and is that usuall way "update-rc.d -f the_script remove" for disabling services?11:36
rox__it was figurative, its okay11:36
deFrysk;p11:36
deFryskoff to bed11:36
popeynn11:36
drunken-wallabypopey: yeah, should have known this... :)11:36
rox__ni ni11:36
koplopertrigg: an  Apacher - Handy steno HT20311:36
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popeyit's a general rule I have :)11:36
popey(unless they pay me)_11:36
shawnz:/11:37
shawnzanyone?11:37
drunken-wallabyby the way, when i do a "route -n", the result is empty, just the headers....11:37
mcphailzen82: ubuntu/debian doesn't bother much with runlevels. Might be a waste of time.11:37
drunken-wallabyifconfig -a shows, that the card itself is configures correctly11:37
triggkoploper: usb1 or 211:37
rob_pzen82:  "update-rc.d the_script start 80 2 3 . stop 20  0 1 2 6 ." will put it in run levels 2 and 3 with a starting priority of 80.11:38
bur[n] eranyone know where to find a deb of bmp-docklet?  (i'm having some issues compiling from source :\11:38
triggkoploper: if it is 2, see if you have any usb 1 items plugged in on the same bus11:38
koplopertrigg: 211:38
zen82mcphail, what exactl do you mean? Am I suposed to pay attention to some other location or startinf and stoping services?11:38
triggkoploper: if so, remove them and replug in your usb stick11:38
rob_pzen82:  the rest should be fairly self explanitory...11:38
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triggkoploper: if that doesn't work -- try putting it in slowly - i know it sounds silly but my Sony filevault only works if I put it in slowly (something about the key making good contact with the usb port)11:40
mcphailzen82: most of the runlevels do the same thing in ubuntu. Don't bother trying to fine tune too much.11:40
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koplopertrigg: i have an aerocool coolpanel with memcard slots on usb, they don't work to. How do i look for devices on a bus?   btw, the usb stick did work for 2 weeks.11:41
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bitkromis breezy after hoary?11:41
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popeybitkrom: yes11:41
poypoyhow to unmount? anyone?11:41
Milk_I think I may have inadvertantly updated to the current kernel in debian unsable.. is there a way to go backwards?11:41
LasseLsudo umount11:41
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poypoythanks11:41
triggkoploper: open a console and type lspci, should show your pci bus11:41
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mejobloggswhere can i find an original sources.list ?11:41
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triggkoploper: you might try restarting hald -- sudo /etc/init.d/hald restart11:42
popeymejobloggs: on an ubuntu live cd?11:42
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zen82rob_p, I tried to disable /etc/rc2.d/S12alsa with the folowing: `update-rc.d alsa start 12 0 1 3 4 5 6 . stop 12 2` but it didn't work.11:42
mejobloggspopey: thanks11:42
popeyjust a guess11:42
shawnzanyone? :/11:42
mejobloggsdoes ubuntu have anything to repair a damaged exe?11:43
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koplopertrigg: sudo: /etc/init.d/hald: command not found11:44
shawnzexe? o.o11:44
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rob_pzen82:  No.  If you wan to DISABLE it, use, "update-rc.d -f alsa remove".11:44
mejobloggsi downloaded a 1.5gb file, only to find its damaged, so i want something that can fix it11:44
Milk_what kernel does horay 5.01 use standard?11:44
popeymejobloggs: haha, how could that work? if you've got bits missing or corrupt how will it know what to do?11:44
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shawnzyou do have wine or cedega right mejobloggs. :/11:44
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mejobloggsno11:45
triggkoploper:"sudo /etc/init.d/hald restart", if that didn't work, see if it is even there. . .11:45
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zen82rob_p, thanks a lot. I'll try that later.11:45
shawnzmejobloggs: then how do you expect to run an exe in linux.11:45
triggkoploper, if not then sudo apt-get install hald11:45
nckSeveas is motherfucker11:45
mejobloggsshawnz: by running it on windows11:45
ncki'll crash this channel11:45
rob_pzen82:  the "S12" on the beginning is the starting priority of the script.  That is only present in the symbolic link within the run level.  The actual script in /etc/init.d is, "alsa."11:45
popeymejobloggs: run "file <filename>" to see what it is11:45
shawnzah, had me worred for a second :p11:45
Milk_is there a way to undo install of a linux-kernel update?11:45
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shawnzOH NO THE CHANNEL CRASHED11:46
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rob_pzenrox:  oops! too late! :-)11:46
popeytiresome11:46
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koplopertrigg: there is a halt but no hald11:46
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VexirIf I have two AIM accounts on GAIM, how do I choose which one to send a message with/use as default ?11:46
Bad_Magicanyone have any suggestions for a nix friendly pcmcia wireless card (a/b/g pref) ?11:46
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triggkoploper, can you install it?11:47
vern401how do I find out my kernel series11:47
popeyBad_Magic: the wireless-tools package has a list iirc11:47
fukb11:47
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popeyvern401: uname -r11:47
fukhey fuckerz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:47
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Bad_Magicpopey: thanks ill check it out11:47
koplopertrigg: what, hald?  maybe but what's for?11:47
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VexirBad_Magic: DLINK Dwl-G52011:47
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VexirIf I have two AIM accounts on GAIM, how do I choose which one to send a message with/use as default ?11:47
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Seveas*sigh*11:48
poypoyI have a DLINK Dwl-G52011:48
matsin the ban-mode, Seveas? ;)11:48
popeySeveas: is it a full moon or something?11:48
mcphailSeveas: busy night...11:48
matsss11:48
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poypoyWouldn't exactly call it linux friendly, still tryingto find linux-wlan-ng :|11:48
matsups.. sorry..11:48
enycSave: what have you changed r.e. relevant aread of verizon.net reverse-dls ??  +b ?? whats going on?11:48
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matsnew keyboard..11:48
triggkoploper: hald = Hardware Abstraction Layer Daemon, it's what auto-recognizes ubs keys, etc, for gnome ... and nevermind the /etc/init.d/hald - it won't be there.  type "which hald"11:48
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shawnzsigh11:49
Milk_what kernel does horay use as standard?11:49
shawnzapparently no one knows then11:49
triggkoploper: usb not ubs ;)11:49
enycmilk_ 2.6.1011:49
Jackassbikecohey does anyone know how I can install 5.04 on a legacy machine11:49
vern401how do I find out my kernel series11:49
Jackassbikecothat wont boot from cd11:49
Seveasenyc, the ban will be removed shortly11:49
h17m4nQuestion: Is there a generic way to make the volume keys on a notebook work? and the email, internet and find ones???11:49
VexirIf I have two AIM accounts on GAIM, how do I choose which one to send a message with/use as default ?11:49
nakatah17m4n, not as such11:49
enycjack: What do you mean 'legacy machine' ?11:49
nakatamy laptop uses interrupts, for example11:49
popeyJackassbikeco: take the hdd and install on another machine that *does* do cd-booting ?11:49
shawnzJackassbikeco: look for bart's cdrom boot floppy11:49
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Jackassbikecoold, like 200 mhz11:50
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Milk_enyc, do you know, is there a way to go back a kernel if I installed an update?11:50
popeyerk11:50
HiddenWolfis there a command to see how big the apt cache is?11:50
VexirIs there a GAIM irc channel11:50
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SeveasVexir, #gaim11:50
h17m4nhmmm11:50
popeyVexir: #gaim11:50
koplopertrigg: $ which hald  ->  /usr/sbin/hald11:50
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vern401how do I find out my kernel series11:50
mcphailh17m4n: System -> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts11:50
popeyvern401: uname -r11:50
enycjack: if you have a SBM boot disk, tha t will allow boot from ATAPI cdrom -- it wont help you wiht mitsumi/sony/panasonic proprietary cd, and won't help you with boot scsi cd, and wont help you wiht boot IDE non-atapi (e.g. old NEC) cd11:50
SeveasHiddenFly, du -s /var/cache/apt/archives11:50
SeveasHiddenWolf*11:50
enycmilk_ errrr.. depends ;p11:50
HiddenWolfSeveas, learn to autotap. :P11:51
karimw786Hi guys, just received my Ubuntu CDs by mail.  Quick Question: what's the minimum hard disk partition size on which ubuntu will run "comfortably"?11:51
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Seveasdamn, everbody hides these days :)11:51
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enycmilk_ usually the "kernel-image-2.6.10-386" or whatever package has been upgraded11:51
Seveaskarimw786, what were you planning to give it?11:51
shawnzkarimw786: server or normal?11:51
Milk_enyc, can I undo that and move back?11:51
Seveasand how much memory do you have?11:51
Jackassbikecook i will try some of those11:51
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HiddenWolfSeveas, that is in bytes I presume?11:51
vern401how do I find out my kernel series11:51
enycmilk: of course you could find the old version, somewherem adn install that package manually, but updates will keep trying to update that11:51
karimw786about 3 gigs?  is that enough for 5.04?11:51
shawnzvern401: you've been told11:51
Jackassbikecoi dont want to put it in this computer, and the other is my only comp so i will look for the boot floppy11:51
SeveasHiddenWolf, man du :)11:51
enycvern: "uname -a" will show what kernel you are running11:51
popeykarimw786: yeah11:51
h17m4nthx... but not those types of shortcuts....11:51
enyckari: should do.. depends how much stuff you install11:51
Seveaskarimw786, yes11:51
triggkoploper: I think I am barking up the wrong tree here ... did you upgrade to a different kernel or anything recently?11:51
Seveasbut make sure you have enough swap too11:52
karimw786memory: 256 MB11:52
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bur[n] erSeveas: how would you feel about packaging bmp-docklet?  the source is not cooperating with me ;)11:52
Milk_enyc, I ended up with the deb unstable kernel image.. and I want to get rid of it11:52
vern401thank you11:52
h17m4nI want to find a way to make the key work for its designed function11:52
enycmilk_: well... what package name did you isntall as such?11:52
Milk_I'm trying to remember11:52
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mindframedoes ubuntu have a package for fluxbox?11:52
mcphailh17m4n: i use this to set volume etc. Just scroll down the list and there shouldbe the appropriate options11:52
Seveasbur[n] er, afair I have such a package11:52
Milk_enyc, linux-header maybe?11:52
karimw786ok so 3 gig is enough, but how about 2?11:52
Seveasmindframe, yes11:52
shawnzmindframe: i *think*11:52
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LasseLkarimw786, see if you can get a memory upgrade11:52
shawnzit might be in backports or something11:53
enycmilk_:  err try doing "dpkg --get-selections | grep kernel-image"11:53
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mindframeSeveas, where should i get it?  it doesnt show up in the synaptic package manager11:53
Seveasmindframe, enable universe11:53
bur[n] erSeveas: i looked at your site seveas.ubuntulinux.nl but found nothing11:53
koplopertrigg: recognizing is not the issue i think,  because when i do lsusb the stick is there.   Yes i installed a k7 kernel lately, but havn't had problems since11:53
Milk_enyc, thats returning nothing11:53
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enycmilk_ hrrm.. how odd11:53
Milk_enyc, yes, any ideas?11:54
mcphailh17m4n: click on "volume up" then press the volume up key etc11:54
triggkoploper: under gnome-panel: System | Administration | Device Manager, can you see your key?11:54
shawnzSeveas, can you help me?11:54
shawnz:(11:54
Milk_brb.. gotta drag something out to the truck for my wife11:54
enycmilk: milk_ did you change  /etc/apt/sources.list to  change kernel ???11:54
mindframeSeveas, thanks.  also - since ubuntu is based on debian can i use normal apt commands such as apt-get and apt-cache?11:54
shawnzmindframe: yes11:54
karimw786is a 2 gig partition enough for a normal install of Ubuntu 5.04?11:54
Seveasmindframe, yup11:54
enycmind: yes11:54
mindframevery cool11:54
bur[n] erkarimw786: barely11:54
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karimw786hmm... ok thanks11:55
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ironuckleshello11:55
shawnz:/11:55
shawnzstupid X11:55
Milk_enyc, yes, I had added the deb unstable11:56
ChaosWolfHello everybody11:56
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VexirHow do I update GAIM? There doesnt seem to be a file for Ubuntu on gaim.sourceforge.net11:56
ChaosWolfi'm a newbie user11:56
enycMilk_: well, thats probably a bad idea in an ubuntu system ;-)11:56
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koplopertrigg: no but i can under USB-devices in kinfocenter11:56
LinuxJonesHow's the Breezy preview looking at the moment, relatively stable ?11:56
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SeveasLinuxJones, yes11:56
enycmilk_: comment out those liens from sources.list11:56
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Milk_enyc, I did11:56
LasseLVexir, use synaptic11:56
cuscohi ya fellows my friend ChaosWolf here.. has some problems with his sound card! he says that xmms plays everything but there no sound output11:56
karimw786ANOTHER N00B question: will the Ubuntu 5.04 install CD give me the option of resizing my existing Win XP partition so that I may dual boot?11:56
Milk_enyc, but now I need to revert11:56
LinuxJonesSeveas, ok great I'm gonna upgrade :)11:56
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ironucklesI have a question about X and using an external monitor on my laptop running Ubuntu 5.0.4.11:56
ChaosWolfand i already have installed ubuntu, working on wireless..11:56
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ChaosWolfbut i have no sound!!!!!11:57
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nakatakarimw786, yes, only destructively.11:57
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triggkoploper: weird.  can you see it under  /media ?11:57
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nakatathing is, an XP partition could be either Fat32 or NTFS11:57
ChaosWolfi have already tryied the unnoficial tutorial .. but the sound is still not working!11:57
VexirLasseL: synaptic... okay.. how?11:57
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ChaosWolfCan anyone help me?11:57
karimw786not sure what is meant by destructively.  My partition is NTFS.11:57
shawnzVexir: look under the System menu11:57
GNU-GPL.11:57
number2178how do i upgrade from hoary to Breezy ? this is going to be first Ubuntu upgrade in my life. if something fails is it possible to downgrade ? thansk11:57
Seveas,11:57
nakatakarimw786, only windows can read/write/modify NTFS11:57
enycmilk_: doenst look like youve installed a debian kernel package...11:57
Vexirshawnz: I know where it is, i dont know how to use it well11:58
Bad_Magicanyone happen to know how to change the channel that is changed in gnome with the shortcut keys (short of editing and recompiling it  by hand?)11:58
seth_knumber2178, I wouldn't until Breezy final11:58
nakatakarimw786, destructively means it CAN resize it, but it will effectively destroy all the data in it.11:58
enycmilk_: do "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image"11:58
shawnzVexir, just open it, hit search11:58
shawnztype gaim11:58
shawnzactually.11:58
nakatamaybe partition magic can though11:58
Bad_Magicuh, qparted did a great job when i had to do it11:58
ironucklesCan anyone give me some tips to getting an extended desktop working under X?11:58
nakatauh, or qparted.11:58
Bad_Magicaltho i had to burn a live-cd to use it11:58
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number2178i need subversion 1.2.3 . is there any way to resolve the dependencies between libs without Breezy ?11:58
koplopertrigg: nope, i can't mount it there too11:59
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bur[n] er!tell Vexir about synaptic11:59
Bad_Magicwhich seems silly that you cant resize it w/o that11:59
Bad_Magic=P11:59
number2178let's say i need any SVN 1.2.x11:59
shawnzcan ANYONE help me fix X.11:59
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tritiumshawnz, what happened?11:59
cuscohi ya fellows my friend ChaosWolf here.. has some problems with his sound card! he says that xmms plays everything, like the vizualization mooves.. and he can play movies... but there no sound output11:59
karimw786ok ok, so does anyone have a link to a fool proof, step by step guide to dual booting an existing XP partition and Ubuntu 5.0411:59
nakatayeah, i think it should be on the installer.11:59
Milk_enyc, its showing some 2.6 packages11:59
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Vexirshawnz: Synaptic says the latest version of GAIM is 1.1.4 which isn't true...11:59
bur[n] ershawnz: Breezy?11:59
cuscocould someone help?11:59
enycmilk_ thats good... erm...11:59
shawnznah11:59
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shawnzhoary11:59
bur[n] er!tell Vexir about backports11:59
shawnzvexir: its not updated frequently11:59
nakatakarimw786, the easiest answer is; pick one.11:59
enycmilk_: do an "apt-get -f install" as root to fix any silly dependancies.....11:59
tritiumkarimw786, there's one on the wiki.  See the UserDocumentation on the wiki12:00
bur[n] erX is broke in hoary for you??!?!?  I hvae no idea12:00
enycmilk_: or.. "sudo apt-get -f install", as such, which runs as root12:00
karimw786thanks12:00

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