[12:03] <EricV> have you worked a lot with them ?
[12:03] <bdoin> you can contact from me: Wilfrid Niobet <wniobet at freesurf.fr>
[12:04] <EricV> who is this person ?
[12:06] <bdoin> it is my contact at NTBF
[12:08] <EricV> what is his job ?
[12:09] <bdoin> He is not the president of NTBF
[12:10] <bdoin> I don't know excatly his job and position
[12:10] <bdoin> he did manage the gcompris project within NTBF
[12:10] <EricV> ok, i read that they have their own elearning platform
[12:11] <EricV> have you ever seen it ?
[12:12] <EricV> they work with Aden ?
[12:12] <bdoin> No, I sow another person from NTBF
[12:12] <EricV> one of my colleague have a contact with a guy from Aden
[12:12] <bdoin> what is Aden ?
[12:14] <EricV> http://www.africaden.net/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=25
[12:15] <bdoin> so it's a competitor for you
[12:15] <EricV> that's helped by the french government
[12:15] <EricV> not really
[12:15] <EricV> wedus has no reason to exist if they have an access to a broadband
[12:16] <EricV> ADEN has a full access to Internet
[12:16] <EricV> i mean the ADEN center
[12:17] <bdoin> I see
[12:17] <EricV> and they are more oriented to teach IT technologies, and us that's more bringing all the possibilies of INternet in a web site (because that's the only web site you can have)
[12:20] <EricV> tell me, are there some frenchies who work on edubuntu ?
[12:21] <bdoin> no idea
[12:23] <EricV> you are only an observer, hopping that your baby will be well treated ?
[12:26] <bdoin> sure it is.
[12:34] <EricV> Au revoir Bruno !
[12:35] <EricV> je reviendrai ptet pour le meeting le 12
[12:35] <EricV> voir ce qui se dit
[06:28] <jsg_sfd> hiya
[10:26] <jsgotangco> ogra, i pimped edubuntu to a school and will use it!
[02:59] <jsgotangco> hi all
[03:00] <ogra> hey jsgotangco 
[03:02] <jsgotangco> hey
[03:02] <jsgotangco> ogra: i got an early adopter!
[03:03] <ogra> yes, i saw your message ...
[03:03] <ogra> :)
[03:03] <ogra> we have a preview release ;)
[03:03] <ogra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/
[03:04] <jsgotangco> does it have 0 config during stage1/2?
[03:04] <ogra> nope
[03:04] <ogra> only in workstation install
[03:04] <jsgotangco> no server install?
[03:05] <ogra> for the server you have to give the ip.... and one thing i have to solve is the question from the dhcp server on which iface it should listen
[03:05] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[03:05] <ogra> sure, server by default
[03:05] <jsgotangco> im sorry about last night it wasn't a good time for me
[03:05] <ogra> but the WS install is 0 config
[03:05] <ogra> server install has 2 questions... to go down to one
[03:08] <jsgotangco> nice
[03:12] <jsgotangco> ogra: im gonna fix the edubuntu doc wiki that ok with you?
[03:12] <jsgotangco> i'm gonna put the whole cookbook there
[03:12] <jsgotangco> as well as the about edubuntu
[03:12] <jsgotangco> and open it up to the community
[03:23] <jsgotangco> oh my our wiki doesn't seem to support talk paes
[03:23] <jsgotangco> s/paes/pages
[03:47] <magnon> hey guys
[03:47] <magnon> how are things, oliver?
[03:47] <jsgotangco> hey
[03:48] <magnon> and hi jerome :)
[03:48] <magnon> -e
[03:49] <magnon> anyone who wants to provide me with an office and apartment in exchange for being your IT problem slave? :P
[03:50] <magnon> so hard finding an office and place to live on a saturday ;)
[03:58] <jelkner> good morning all
[03:58] <jelkner> can i get some quick assistance setting up a new edubuntu server?
[03:59] <jsgotangco> hey hey
[03:59] <jelkner> ogra: are you here?
[03:59] <jelkner> jsgotangco: hey hey!
[03:59] <magnon> hello jelkner 
[03:59] <magnon> there's instructions on the wikoi
[03:59] <magnon> wiki*
[03:59] <jelkner> our software freedom day event is about to begin
[03:59] <jsgotangco> jelkner: what's up
[03:59] <magnon> http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting should do it
[03:59] <jsgotangco> oh ours just finished a few hours ago
[03:59] <jelkner> i installed edubuntu last night
[04:00] <jelkner> the new logos and stuff appeared about 10 minutes to midnight, *very* cool!
[04:00] <magnon> :)
[04:00] <magnon> what do you need help with?
[04:00] <jelkner> now i need to get the dhcp thing going
[04:00] <ogra> the instructions on the wiki are obsolete
[04:00] <magnon> I'm really hungover but I can try to help :P
[04:00] <jelkner> all i did was the base install
[04:00] <magnon> ogra: ah, ok
[04:00] <jelkner> so what is next?
[04:00] <ogra> i'm just sitting and writing the preview announcement
[04:01] <ogra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/
[04:01] <magnon> jelkner: you need to configure edubuntu to be on 192.168.0.1
[04:01] <ogra> ;)
[04:01] <magnon> jelkner: the dhcp server refuses to start if not ;)
[04:01] <ogra> magnon, every 192.168.0 ip works...
[04:01] <jelkner> can we make it 192.168.1 ?
[04:02] <magnon> ogra: "magnon: I'm really hungover but I can try to help :P" ;)
[04:02] <jelkner> the linksys nat box i'm using defaulted to that, so that is what i used
[04:02] <ogra> jelkner, you can do what you want ;) but you need to edit /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf accordingly
[04:02] <magnon> my whatever wireless box at this place defaults to 192.168.11.x for some weird reason
[04:03] <ogra> picking the 192.168.0 net as default is only caused through this file... if you want something else, edit the ip data in there and use another ip ;)
[04:03] <magnon> ogra: the network config should really have a script that configures that file according to the information you configure the network to have :P
[04:04] <magnon> (but I'm sure that's been thought of)
[04:04] <jsgotangco> (nice to have)
[04:04] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[04:04] <jelkner> Stopping DHCP server: dhcpd3.
[04:04] <jelkner> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics.
[04:04] <ogra> magnon, yes, thatd be cool, but i have not found the right way to do it yet, and i refuse to have a edubuntu-config package, everything should be done by good defaults of the packages
[04:05] <jelkner> Setting up ltsp-server-standalone (0.55) ...
[04:05] <jelkner> Stopping DHCP server: dhcpd3.
[04:05] <jelkner> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics.
[04:05] <jelkner> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "restart" failed.
[04:05] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing ltsp-server-standalone (--configure):
[04:05] <jelkner>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:05] <jelkner> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of edubuntu-server:
[04:05] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server depends on ltsp-server-standalone; however:
[04:05] <jelkner>   Package ltsp-server-standalone is not configured yet.
[04:05] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing edubuntu-server (--configure):
[04:05] <jelkner>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:05] <jelkner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:05] <jelkner>  ltsp-server-standalone
[04:05] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server
[04:05] <jelkner> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:05] <ogra> what ip did you pick ? 
[04:05] <magnon> ogra: I havent done a lot of packaging, but cant edubuntu-server do it? check the network config and configure it according to that
[04:06] <ogra> magnon, nope.... its not right to have scripts in metapackages
[04:06] <magnon> jelkner: I tried to customise that file and got errors as well, I did notice later that I had some mistakes in it though - but trying it out on 192.168.0.1 and setting eth0:0 to be whatever you need to get online worked for me
[04:06] <magnon> ogra: makes sense
[04:06] <ogra> a enhancement to ltsp-server-sztandalone or to dhcp3-server would be the right way
[04:07] <magnon> what package tells dhcp3-server to read the ltsp config file?
[04:07] <ogra> thats ltsp-server-standalone
[04:07] <magnon> then I recon that one should do the configuration of it too?
[04:08] <ogra> probably, i have to talk with mdz about that, its his package
[04:08] <magnon> ok
[04:09] <ogra> jelkner, check /var/log/daemon.log for the errormessage
[04:11] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:~# tail -f /var/log/daemon.log
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd: Wrote 231 leases to leases file.
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 (192.168.1.254).
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth0.  If this is not what
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:    you want, please write a subnet declaration
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:    in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:    to which interface eth0 is attached. **
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd:
[04:11] <jelkner> Sep 10 10:04:58 edubuntu dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[04:12] <jelkner> hold on, let me try editing dhcpd.conf
[04:12] <jelkner> but i tried that on another server yesterday, and it didn't work
[04:13] <ogra> jelkner, dont edit the normal dhcp.conf, only the one in /etc/ltsp
[04:13] <ogra> (dont even touch it)
[04:15] <jelkner> can i try the "very basic subnet declaration?
[04:17] <jelkner> ok
[04:18] <ogra> just leave the normal dhcp.conf as is and make all changes for your ltsp in the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file
[04:18] <ogra> then it will work...
[04:18] <jelkner> there must be a package i need to install
[04:18] <jelkner> there is nothing in /etc/ltsp
[04:18] <jelkner> it is empty
[04:19] <magnon> did edubuntu-.server install correctly?
[04:19] <jelkner> how can i check?
[04:19] <ogra> jelkner, ltsp-server-standalone ....
[04:20] <jelkner> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of edubuntu-server:
[04:20] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server depends on ltsp-server-standalone; however:
[04:20] <jelkner>   Package ltsp-server-standalone is not configured yet.
[04:20] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing edubuntu-server (--configure):
[04:20] <jelkner>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:20] <jelkner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:20] <jelkner>  ltsp-server-standalone
[04:20] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server
[04:20] <jelkner> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:20] <ogra> try installing ltsp-server before
[04:21] <jelkner> same error messages
[04:21] <jelkner> after "apt-get install ltsp-server"
[04:22] <ogra> thats a default install from a fresh CD with no tweakages ? 
[04:22] <jelkner> yes
[04:22] <ogra> hmm...
[04:22] <jelkner> although it is yesterday's image
[04:22] <ogra> try apt-get -f install 
[04:23] <jelkner> not todays
[04:23] <jelkner> ok
[04:23] <ogra> depends which of yesterdays image ... todays is the .4 image from yesterday
[04:23] <ogra> (which is our preview)
[04:24] <jelkner> i made the image yesterday morning
[04:24] <ogra> ah, ok.... there was some breakage... but not in this area....
[04:24] <jelkner> before all the logo changes, etc.
[04:24] <ogra> hmm...
[04:24] <ogra> so you dont have the fully automatic ltsp install yet ;)
[04:24] <jelkner> apt-get -f install doesn't work
[04:24] <jelkner> no
[04:25] <jelkner> i guess not
[04:25] <ogra> what does it say ? 
[04:25] <ogra> it should remove the unconfigure stuff...
[04:25] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing ltsp-server-standalone (--configure):
[04:25] <jelkner>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:25] <jelkner> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of edubuntu-server:
[04:25] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server depends on ltsp-server-standalone; however:
[04:25] <jelkner>   Package ltsp-server-standalone is not configured yet.
[04:25] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing edubuntu-server (--configure):
[04:25] <jelkner>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:25] <jelkner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:25] <jelkner>  ltsp-server-standalone
[04:25] <jelkner>  edubuntu-server
[04:25] <ogra> remove edubuntu server... 
[04:26] <ogra> then try apt-get -f install again
[04:26] <ogra> if this doesnt work, try dpkg --configure -a
[04:28] <jelkner> ok, i removed the  ltsp-server-standalone package
[04:28] <jelkner> i now have not configuration issues
[04:28] <ogra> now try installing it again....
[04:29] <jelkner> ltsp-server or ltsp-server-standalone ?
[04:29] <ogra> its weird that you dont have the file in /etc/ltsp....
[04:29] <ogra> standalone pulls the other one in
[04:30] <ogra> so just -standalone is enough
[04:32] <jelkner> oops! i was looking in /opt/ltsp not /etc/ltsp
[04:32] <jelkner> i'm editing /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf now
[04:32] <ogra> :)
[04:33] <jelkner> Setting up ltsp-server-standalone (0.55) ...
[04:33] <jelkner> Stopping DHCP server: dhcpd3.
[04:33] <jelkner> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics.
[04:33] <jelkner> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "restart" failed.
[04:33] <jelkner> dpkg: error processing ltsp-server-standalone (--configure):
[04:33] <jelkner>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:33] <jelkner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:33] <jelkner>  ltsp-server-standalone
[04:33] <jelkner> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:34] <ogra> hmm... your dhcp-conf is right now ? 
[04:34] <ogra> dhcp.conf
[04:35] <jelkner> authoritative;
[04:35] <jelkner> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[04:35] <jelkner>   range 192.168.1.100 192.168.0.200;
[04:35] <jelkner>   option domain-name "mtrainierfol.org";
[04:35] <jelkner>   option domain-name-servers 66.92.159.2, 216.231.41.2;
[04:35] <jelkner>   option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
[04:35] <jelkner>   option routers 192.168.1.1;
[04:35] <jelkner>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[04:35] <jelkner>   filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
[04:35] <jelkner>   option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[04:35] <jelkner> }
[04:35] <ogra> range is wrong
[04:35] <jelkner> ahh
[04:36] <jelkner> looks like it worked!
[04:36] <ogra> its really easier to go with the defaults and make the changes post install :)
[04:36] <ogra> great :) 
[04:36] <ogra> but you really should test the preview ... it installs the ltsp chroot alone etc ... its improved a lot 
[04:37] <ogra> but i wonder how we can prevent this error in the future ...
[04:37] <ogra> there will be many people wanting another ip net...
[04:38] <jelkner> it would be nice if the file was created automatically based on the ip address given of the server
[04:38] <ogra> yup
[04:39] <ogra> or, if no ip is given etc... if it wouldnt try to trestart the dchp server to make sure it install cleanly at least
[04:39] <jelkner> so during the install, a screen should appear saying something like: using 192.168.0.254 for you server address
[04:39] <jelkner> please change it if this is not correct
[04:39] <ogra> something like that...
[04:39] <jelkner> and then if they enter 192.168.217.254
[04:39] <ogra> i think i wont change netcfg in the installer though
[04:39] <jelkner> the dhcp.conf file that would work on that network is created
[04:40] <ogra> i.e. it will offer a default address, but if that changed it will generate the file accordingly
[04:40] <jelkner> have you ever seen how the k12ltsp distro does it
[04:40] <jelkner> eric set that up, and that is how it works
[04:40] <ogra> too myna questions for the user... i prefer it done by default based on the ip with less interaction
[04:41] <ogra> s/myna/many
[04:41] <ogra> just do it in the background, if it work right, the user doesnt need to know about it ;)
[04:41] <ogra> works even
[04:41] <jelkner> except that you will find 192.168.0.0 if often not the one the user will need
[04:42] <jelkner> since we don't have the router box as part of it yet, i'll be recommending folks use nat boxes like the linksys router i'm using
[04:42] <ogra> you will always heave the question for the ip .... but the additional stuff isnt needed
[04:43] <jelkner> what additional stuff?
[04:43] <jelkner> the ip was all i was saying
[04:44] <jelkner> ok, we now have PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not found
[04:44] <jelkner> on the thin client
[04:44] <ogra> erm, did you install edubuntu-server again ? 
[04:44] <ogra> that will care for the tftp server to be started...
[04:44] <jelkner> now i did, hold on... ;-)
[04:49] <jelkner> we still have the tftp error
[04:49] <jelkner> we get a client ip 192.168.1.191
[04:50] <jelkner> the gateway and dhcp ip are good
[04:50] <ogra> is everything i /var/lib/tftp ? 
[04:50] <ogra> in even
[04:50] <jelkner> then tftp.
[04:50] <jelkner> pxe-t01: file not found
[04:50] <ogra> look if the files in /var/lib/tftp are there
[04:51] <ogra> and if inetd runs...
[04:51] <ogra> if this is the case, check /etc/inetd.conf for an entry for tftp
[04:51] <jelkner> which files
[04:51] <jelkner> ?
[04:51] <ogra> the pxeboot stuff... 
[04:52] <ogra> there must be a bunch of files ...
[04:52] <ogra> including a linux image, initrd etc
[04:53] <ogra> if have no server around to check the exact names currently
[04:53] <jelkner> /var/lib/tftpboot ?
[04:54] <ogra> err, yes, indeed :)
[04:54] <jelkner> that has an ltsp directory
[04:54] <jelkner> which is empty
[04:56] <ogra> hmm, seems your ltsp server install completely failed...
[04:57] <ogra> try: apt-get install --reinstall ltsp-server
[04:58] <ogra> this should pull in the missing bits
[04:58] <jelkner> wait, i only installed ltsp-server-standalone, not ltsp-server
[04:58] <ogra> ltsp-server-standalone depends on ltsp-server
[05:02] <jelkner>  apt-get --reinstall ltsp-server
[05:02] <jelkner> E: Invalid operation ltsp-server
[05:02] <jelkner> opps, hold on
[05:05] <jelkner> Preconfiguring packages ...
[05:05] <jelkner> (Reading database ... 72496 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:05] <jelkner> Preparing to replace ltsp-server 0.55 (using .../ltsp-server_0.55_all.deb) ...
[05:05] <jelkner> Unpacking replacement ltsp-server ...
[05:05] <jelkner> Setting up ltsp-server (0.55) ...
[05:05] <jelkner> then..
[05:05] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp# ls
[05:05] <jelkner> still gives nothing
[05:05] <ogra> look in /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:06] <ogra> try: dpkg -l tftpd-hpa
[05:06] <ogra> it should give a line starting with ii
[05:06] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:/var/lib/tftpboot# ls
[05:06] <jelkner> ltsp
[05:11] <jelkner> dpkg root@edubuntu:/var/lib/tftpboot# dpkg -l tftpd-hpa
[05:11] <jelkner> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[05:11] <jelkner> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[05:11] <jelkner> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[05:11] <jelkner> ||/ Name            Version         Description
[05:11] <jelkner> +++-[05:11] <jelkner> ii  tftpd-hpa       0.40-2ubuntu1   HPA's tftp server
[05:11] <ogra> ok, thats installed...
[05:11] <ogra> below /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp is nothing ? 
[05:11] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp# ls
[05:11] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp#
[05:13] <jelkner> ogra: i'm going a bit crazy here
[05:13] <jelkner> we are in the middle of an event
[05:13] <ogra> my prob is that i dont have a reference install around...
[05:14] <jelkner> and folks keep walking up to me asking question about free software
[05:14] <ogra> i'm just trying to figure out why this files are missing
[05:14] <jelkner> and i'm trying to talk to you at the same time
[05:14] <jelkner> what about having you ssh into the machine?
[05:14] <ogra> sure
[05:14] <jelkner> hold on
[05:15] <ogra>  /msg the access data
[05:15] <jelkner> i need to configure the router for that
[05:15] <ogra> ok
[05:15] <ogra> ah, wait
[05:16] <ogra> try running ltsp-update-kernels
[05:16] <DerRobin> Hey someone there who can tell me the advantages taking edubuntu for my schools computerroom instead of debian or so on?
[05:16] <ogra> and ltsp-update-sshkeys afterwards... (that should have been run by ltsp-build-client, did you run that ?)
[05:17] <ogra> DerRobin, sicher doch :) 
[05:17] <DerRobin> Das ist gut ~.~ Ich bin nmlich gerade dafr verantwortlich gemacht worden, die "ntzlichste" distri rauszusuchen und auf unserer schule "einzufhren"
[05:18] <DerRobin> als schler/lehrer-workstations
[05:18] <ogra> DerRobin, lets either do it in english or in a /msg ;) 
[05:18] <DerRobin> *msg* :)
[05:18] <jelkner> ogra: i don't know how to use /msg
[05:19] <jelkner> i should get a new tab, yes?
[05:19] <ogra> jelkner, yes
[05:19] <jelkner> i don't see one
[05:20] <ogra> jelkner, err, i was talking to DerRobin, i didnt want to clutter the channel with german :)
[05:20] <DerRobin> ogra: i've to reg here to write to you just a moment pls
[05:20] <ogra> DerRobin, currently you can only /msg if you are registered
[05:20] <ogra> heh
[05:20] <ogra> we had a lot of spambot attacks recently... this will change again
[05:21] <ogra> jelkner, did you run ltsp-build-client ?
[05:21] <DerRobin> how to reg?
[05:22] <ogra>  /msg nickserv help register ;)
[05:22] <jelkner> ogra: no, will do now
[05:22] <jelkner> i didn't know we still needed to do that
[05:22] <ogra> jelkner, heh.... without installed ltsp client envitonment its hard to boot a ltsp client ;)
[05:23] <jelkner> that is going away, yes
[05:23] <jelkner> ?
[05:23] <ogra> jelkner, not for the preview release anymore
[05:23] <ogra> its already gone
[05:23] <jelkner> oh
[05:23] <jelkner> so if i down load a new image, it will "just work"?
[05:24] <ogra> yup
[05:25] <jelkner> root@edubuntu:~# ltsp-build-client
[05:25] <jelkner> I: Retrieving Release
[05:25] <jelkner> I: Retrieving Packages
[05:25] <jelkner> I: Validating Packages
[05:25] <jelkner> I: Checking component main on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[05:25] <jelkner> and it is hanging...
[05:25] <ogra> nope...
[05:25] <ogra> its just not showing its progress
[05:25] <jelkner> so, just wait awhile
[05:25] <ogra> it checks all md5 sums ... 
[05:25] <ogra> of all packages...
[05:25] <jelkner> patients, jelkner, patients!
[05:25] <ogra> do you have your CD around ? 
[05:26] <ogra> then stop it with ctrl C and rather build it from cd
[05:26] <jelkner> how?
[05:27] <ogra> mount the cd with: mount /cdrom
[05:27] <ogra> run: ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
[05:38] <jelkner> ogra: still no dice
[05:38] <jelkner> how about this as a plan:
[05:39] <jelkner> 1. download the new install cd
[05:39] <jelkner> 2. go to lunch
[05:39] <jelkner> 3. burn cd
[05:39] <jelkner> 4. install
[05:39] <jelkner> 5. enjoy
[05:39] <jelkner> what do you think?
[05:39] <ogra> install with a 192.168.0 ip and make the changes after install ;)
[05:39] <jelkner> then i can test your turn-key version
[05:40] <jelkner> actually, i think i can configure the router to use that ip
[05:40] <jelkner> then i won't need to change anything
[05:40] <ogra> even better, because quicker
[05:43] <jsgotangco> hmmm i made a draft for release notes of Ubuntu 5.10
[05:43] <jsgotangco> i can edit it up for edubuntu
[05:44] <ogra> i have a draft already, but mdz wanted some changes...
[05:45] <ogra> made by JaneW
[05:45] <jsgotangco> i see
[05:45] <jsgotangco> i just patterened from mdz's preview announcement
[05:45] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes
[05:46] <ogra> yup, thats what jeane sent me... but mdz doesnt want to see the breezy features in there
[05:47] <jsgotangco> ahh focus on edubuntu-specific benefits i presume?
[05:47] <ogra> yup
[05:47] <jsgotangco> it makes sense
[05:48] <jsgotangco> i did a simple demo today
[05:48] <jsgotangco> a lot were impressed
[05:48] <ogra> yay :)
[05:48] <jsgotangco> (it helped that this laptop had good specs)
[05:51] <jelkner> ogra: what do i download?
[05:51] <jelkner> the sept 9 version?
[05:51] <ogra> see topic :)
[05:53] <jelkner> ok, which version?
[05:53] <jelkner> i see the topic
[05:53] <ogra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[05:53] <jelkner> thanks
[05:58] <Rob1n> ogra: DerRobin wont disconnect (24hdisc) kill him :D
[05:58] <ogra> i cant
[05:58] <Rob1n> ohh no ~.~
[05:58] <ogra>  /msg nickserv help ghost
[05:59] <Rob1n> ahh nice thanks
[06:47] <ogra> jsgotangco, still around ? 
[08:47] <jelkner> ogra: you still here?
[08:48] <ogra> yup
[08:48] <jelkner> today has been a comedy of errors, and unfortunately, a lost opportunity
[08:48] <ogra> oh :/
[08:49] <jelkner> can you please send me the image to download again?
[08:49] <jelkner> and can we put that on the edubuntu wiki, so it is easy for others to find?
[08:49] <ogra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[08:49] <jelkner> thanks
[08:49] <ogra> its linked on http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting
[08:51] <jelkner> is that the same as today's daily build?
[08:52] <jelkner> or yesterday's rather?
[08:52] <ogra> there shouldnt be a difference to todays build and its identical with yesterdays .4 build
[08:52] <jelkner> ok
[08:54] <jelkner> so http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso is the same?
[08:55] <ogra> yes, until ~1:00 GMT
[08:55] <ogra> then the new iso will be in /current
[09:01] <jelkner> I've just updated the home page: http://edubuntu.org/
[09:02] <jelkner> i added a what's new section at the top with a link to the download
[09:02] <jelkner> if we can keep that up to date it would be helpful
[09:02] <jelkner> what are the plans for the edubuntu wiki?
[09:02] <jelkner> i like it
[09:03] <jelkner> but didn't mdz say they were getting rid of it?
[09:03] <jelkner> i've avoided adding anything to it after i hear that
[09:05] <ogra> the wikis will be merged one day
[09:05] <ogra> you wont loose anything
[09:06] <jelkner> ok, great
[09:08] <jelkner> i'll let you know how the new install goes.
[09:08] <jelkner> thanks!
[10:57] <yvesC> ogra, FYI, actual gcompris cvs compiles correctly on edubuntu. 7.0 final is planed for september 16.