 My box is randomly lagging with loadavs at about 12, and no programs are starting
[12:00] <Vexir> shawnz: So how do I get the latest GAIM version.. do I have to download the source tarball for GAIM 1.5?
[12:00] <Milk_> enyc, that does nothing
 my friend said it was a socket problem so I rebooted, and now gdm doesn't want to get past loading
[12:00] <trigg> koploper: so you can see the key, but it is not generated the correct /dev entry?
[12:00] <shawnz> tritium: ^
[12:00] <Edwin_Quijada> i downloaded ubuntu 5.0.4 but i dont have internet connection
[12:00] <Edwin_Quijada> i cant install it?
[12:00] <enyc> milk_ it does things but it doesnt display anything because it thinks there are no dependancies to fix ;-)
[12:00] <tritium> Vexir, 1.5.0 is in breezy
[12:00] <shawnz> Vexir: look in the ubuntuguide for 'ubuntu backports'
[12:00] <vern401> can someone help me install a wireless card I am new to linux
[12:00] <enyc> edwi: depends on your install media
[12:01] <saubz> how do you check the md5?
[12:01] <Milk_> enyc, well.. yea, but I want to revert back to the standard horay kernel...
[12:01] <saubz> anybody?
[12:01] <tritium> shawnz, can you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors?
[12:01] <GNU-GPL> Edwin_Quijada, it can be done
[12:01] <shawnz> okay
[12:01] <Seveas> bur[n] er, ?
[12:01] <tritium> saubz, md5sum <filename>
[12:01] <enyc> milk_ doesnt LOOK like you've installed another kernel...
[12:01] <Milk_> enyc, or is that right?
[12:01] <shawnz> switching to tty4
[12:01] <Vexir> shawnz: what are backports?
[12:01] <Edwin_Quijada> enyc: cd rom
[12:01] <Milk_> enyc, hrm... must just be gcc
[12:01] <enyc> milk_ do "uname -a" -- what do you get then?
[12:01] <cusco> !tell cusco about backports
[12:01] <Vexir> tritium: dunno what breezy is..
[12:01] <ChaosWolf> hello could u help me please? i can't configure audio on linux...ubuntu. i have already tryed the unnoficial guide.. but i received a message error....
[12:01] <enyc> edwi: the hoary intall cd will work...
[12:01] <tritium> Vexir, it's the next ubuntu release due next month.  There's a preview release out.  (see topic)
[12:01] <shawnz> Vexir: since ubuntu is barely updated, someone created a backports project with updated packages.
[12:01] <ChaosWolf> hello could u help me please? i can't configure audio on linux...ubuntu. i have already tryed the unnoficial guide.. but i received a message error....
[12:02] <Seveas> ChaosWolf, unofficial guide -- BAD
[12:02] <saubz> tritium, im downloading ubuntu on a windoze machine
[12:02] <shawnz> doze :/
[12:02] <nakata> !windoze
[12:02] <ubotu> nakata: What?
[12:02] <ChaosWolf> Seveas please help me!!!
[12:02] <tritium> saubz, search google for md5sum.exe
[12:02] <Milk_> enyc, its showing 2.6.12-1-386
[12:02] <nakata> hm
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, what error?
[12:02] <Edwin_Quijada> enyc : Which hoary?
[12:02] <shawnz> tritium: tell me what that .log file was again?
[12:02] <karimw786> !windoze
[12:02] <enyc> milk_: theres all sorts you could have mucked up if youupdated to debian etc.
[12:02] <shawnz> cant scroll up in irssi.
[12:02] <Seveas> ChaosWolf, i would if i could...
[12:02] <shawnz> (afaik)
[12:02] <tritium> shawnz, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:02] <Vexir> shawnz: Okay, where is the ubuntuguide?
[12:02] <Seveas> try #alsa
[12:02] <popey> shawnz: page up
[12:02] <ChaosWolf> Ok Seveas
[12:02] <enyc> edwi: hoary == current ubuntu release, 5.04 -- in 2005/04 ;-)
[12:02] <shawnz> nice popey
[12:02] <shawnz> :p
[12:02] <popey> :)
[12:02] <Milk_> enyc, any ideas on fixing it outside of reinstall?
[12:02] <enyc> milk_ hrrm... but you dont have 'kernel-image-2.6.12' installed ? im confused
[12:03] <ChaosWolf> Seveas coul u send me private messages
[12:03] <ChaosWolf> ????
[12:03] <koploper> trigg: i think so, could it have something to do with a unplugged sata harddisk lately (i have diamondmax 10 <-> nforce4 issues)
[12:03] <enyc> milk_: it reeally really depends EXACTLY what you have done ;-)
[12:03] <ChaosWolf> Seveas im a unresgistered user, im portuguese...
[12:03] <tritium> Milk_, what's going on/
[12:03] <tritium> ?
[12:03] <saubz> thanks tritium
[12:03] <ChaosWolf> im not registed in this server
[12:03] <trigg> koploper: maybe - might be hanging up udev
[12:03] <tritium> saubz, :)
[12:03] <Milk_> tritium, while trying to get gnomad2 working last night.. I think I managed to mess up my kernel, and its causing vmware problems
[12:04] <tritium> Milk_, what makes you think your kernel is messed up?
[12:04] <nakata> reinstalling vmware doesn't help?
[12:04] <Milk_> tritium, well.. its showing funny things
[12:04] <Milk_> nakata, tried it
[12:04] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> yes/
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> ?
[12:04] <ChaosWolf> I will post the error here.. can I ?
[12:04] <tritium> Milk_, anything you can paste to #flood or pastebin
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> no better not
[12:04] <shawnz> tritium: a bunch of font errors.
[12:05] <tritium> ChaosWolf, no, #flood or pastebin
[12:05] <GNU-GPL> copy/paste isn't a good idea
[12:05] <koploper> trigg: damn, i have to flash that harddisk with a disk, but my floppy station won't work  :(  (not OS related, but hardware)
[12:05] <shawnz> buttttt, there was a message, 'AUDIT: something something connection refused from local host something something'
[12:05] <ChaosWolf> i will paste de Link!!!!
[12:05] <Milk_> tritium, not really
[12:05] <ChaosWolf> http://rafb.net/paste/results/wcKJm758.html
[12:05] <nakata> shawnz, that's X not allowing a connection, i theenk
[12:05] <ChaosWolf> please help me!
[12:05] <trigg> koploper -- can't use a bootcd?
[12:05] <poypoy> is there a syncing client that I can use to sync a folder on a linuxbox with a folder on a winxp machine?
[12:05] <poypoy> (and  vice versa)
[12:05] <tritium> Milk_, were gnomad2 and vmware installed from .debs?
[12:05] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL
[12:05] <shawnz> nakata: yeah im guessing.
[12:05] <shawnz> or maybe
[12:05] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, it's portugese
[12:05] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:05] <shawnz> its not resolving
[12:05] <cs_DK> iFolder
[12:05] <ChaosWolf> yess
[12:06] <tritium> poypoy, perhaps unison
[12:06] <cs_DK> poypoy: iFolder
[12:06] <Milk_> tritium, neither,, gnomad was installed from debain unstable
[12:06] <poypoy> I'll check out both, thanks :)
[12:06] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, i'll try to translate it
[12:06] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL the dependencies modules error!
[12:06] <koploper> trigg: if i knew how to make a bootable cd, yes
[12:06] <shawnz> brb.
[12:06] <tritium> hrm, mixing debian & ubuntu is generally not a good idea
[12:06] <ChaosWolf> this is a error to point 7!!!
[12:06] <Milk_> tritium, that I know, but I really wanted gnomad to work
[12:07] <ChaosWolf> of the unnoficial guide --------> point 7 error!!!
[12:07] <trigg> koploper: what do you mean "flash" the harddisk?
[12:07] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL of the unnoficial guide --------> point 7 error!!!
[12:07] <GNU-GPL> holdon ChaosWolf
[12:07] <tritium> Milk_, which version?
[12:07] <Tommy2> Hey guys. I'm sort of a Linux n00b. I've been running Fedora and want to give Ubuntu a shot. I just downloaded the latest version. What's my next step?
[12:07] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL ok THX
[12:07] <tritium> Tommy2, install it ;)
[12:08] <Milk_> tritium, of gnomad?  2.8.0
[12:08] <tritium> Milk_, I see...2.6.3-1 is in breezy
[12:08] <Tommy2> Haha, Obviously, but when I burn that ISO file, do I need to do anything special? And is the command line installer pretty self explanatory?
[12:08] <Milk_> tritium, even 2.8.0 wasn't working
[12:08] <tritium> Tommy2, yes, the installer is not difficult
[12:09] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, better give the right url for this point, can't find it
[12:09] <tritium> Milk_, I still find it unlikely that these packages would hose your kernel
[12:09] <fraser> Tommy2: Make sure you burn the ISO file as a CD image, not just as a data file on the CD.  Otherwise you can't boot to it.
[12:09] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL :(
[12:09] <ChaosWolf> the right link?
[12:09] <shawnz> back.
[12:09] <Milk_> tritium, I the the issue is that it tried to install linux-image-2.6 as a dependancy
[12:09] <shawnz> tritium: any idea?
[12:09] <shawnz> (sorry for coming while its busy :p)
[12:09] <Tommy2> Thank's tritium and fraser!
[12:09] <weirdgeordie> Hey, I have a quick question. I have a FAT32 partition mounted as /linwin . When I try to chmod it so other users can write to it, nothing happens and the permitions remain the same
[12:09] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, yes, the link to this point (7)
[12:10] <ChaosWolf> ok
[12:10] <shawnz> weirdgeordie: does fat32 even support chmod?
[12:10] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL ok
[12:10] <shawnz> :/
[12:10] <tritium> Tommy2, good luck.  If you need help, we're here :)
[12:10] <trigg> koploper: can you do it from any DOS-like environment?
[12:10] <weirdgeordie> shawnz,  No, but still the permitions are set to read only for anybody other that root
[12:10] <Tommy2> Oh does my drive need to be partitioned in a certain format? Or will the Ubuntu installer take care of that.
[12:10] <trigg> koploper: try the "Ultimate BootCD"  -- just google it.  It might help you out.
[12:10] <tritium> Tommy2, there is a liveCD, if you'd prefer to try it out without installing to your drive first
[12:10] <shawnz> Tommy2: it does everything.
[12:11] <ChaosWolf>  GNU-GPL    http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:11] <ChaosWolf>   GNU-GPL    http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:11] <tritium> Tommy2, by the way, did you install the breezy preview?
[12:11] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, i know that, but what link inside this page
[12:11] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[12:11] <tritium> ChaosWolf, please don't advise that
[12:11] <vern401> looking for help to install software for a wireless card
[12:11] <Tommy2> No, I didn't. All I have done so far is downloaded the ISO i386 file.
[12:11] <ChaosWolf> ok
[12:11] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, bette use private message
[12:12] <GNU-GPL> +r
[12:12] <ChaosWolf>   GNU-GPL    1 min
[12:12] <cusco> GNU-GPL: the link was http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[12:12] <koploper> trigg: BIOS of the harddisk: all versions of maxtor diamondmax 10 produced approx before feb 2005 with BIOS < 1B70 happen to have connection lost on nforce4 chipsets
[12:12] <GNU-GPL> ok
[12:12] <tritium> Tommy2, I'm sorry, I mean download the breezy preview
[12:12] <cusco> GNU-GPL: error dependencys on step 7
[12:12] <weirdgeordie> I've had an idea. Unmount the partition, and set the permitions on the folder then remount
[12:12] <mcphail> vern401: what's the problem? Ask away...
[12:12] <koploper> trigg: thanks ;)
[12:12] <cusco> dependencies errors
[12:12] <weirdgeordie> why didn't I think of that before ;-)
[12:12] <Tommy2> No I haven't, should I download that?
[12:12] <GNU-GPL> cusco, right
[12:12] <vern401> getting to software installed so it can use it
[12:13] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i cant prive!!
[12:13] <shawnz> Tommy2: if you want to test breezy, then yes, download the breezy livecd.
[12:13] <tritium> Milk_, that's not a package name, though.  Were there more numbers?
[12:13] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i cant prive try call me
[12:13] <Vexir> When I try reloading synaptic after ive added the Ubuntu Backports repository, I get this error: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>          Anyone know how to fix?
[12:13] <Tommy2> You guys are great! I need to go dig up a hard drive to install on to though. :D I'll check back with you later. Thanks!
[12:13] <koploper> trigg: yes any dos like will do, i just need to execute a .exe
[12:13] <Milk_> tritium, yes
[12:13] <tritium> Tommy2, it's up to you.  It's the current development release based on Gnome 2.12, due to be released next month
[12:13] <tritium> dang it...
[12:13] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL
[12:13] <shawnz> hehe tritium
[12:14] <tritium> :)
[12:14] <shawnz> :p
[12:14] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL do u read my messages?
[12:14] <tritium> Milk_, still, that hardly seems a problem
[12:14] <Milk_> tritium, linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[12:14] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, only here..
[12:14] <shawnz> eek
[12:14] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL please add wolf_hall@hotmail.com
[12:14] <shawnz> kernels
[12:14] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL please
[12:14] <Milk_> tritium, the vmware issue seems to be with conflicting gcc versions due to kernel image issues
[12:14] <h17m4n> Question: Do I have to install the ATI driver in chroot?
[12:14] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL ok?
[12:15] <tritium> Milk_, oh, well, I can't advise you on vmware
[12:15] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, let me say this.. did you add the right repositories to the list?
[12:15] <vexir_> When I try reloading synaptic after ive added the Ubuntu Backports repository, I get this error:                 W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>                                               Anyone know how to fix?
[12:15] <vern401> I dont know how to install in linux
[12:15] <ChaosWolf> i dont know...
[12:15] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i dont know....
[12:15] <shawnz> wow
[12:15] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL newbie
[12:15] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, it's the first thing on that site.
[12:15] <mcphail> ubotu: tell vern401 about wireless
[12:15] <shawnz> you guys get quite a few linux newbies don't you :(
[12:15] <ChaosWolf> ah
[12:15] <cvt> i totally despise people who say windows is better than linux without ground.
[12:15] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL sure i did!
[12:16] <shawnz> cvt, it has its points.
[12:16] <shawnz> (windows)
[12:16] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, if you did what it says, you should be fine (i tried it myself once)
[12:16] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL but i can do it again
[12:16] <OCA|> Windows as an OS is (imo) inferior... but damn it's hard to be a gamer and use anything else.
[12:16] <shawnz> it is?
[12:16] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL but i dont want the ubuntu to upgrade to breezy
[12:16] <shawnz> I find it quite sufficent.
[12:16] <cvt> shawnz, sure, like games.  but to say the windows is all around better than linux is despicable.
[12:16] <shawnz> just linux is that much better
[12:17] <shawnz> cvt, i personally like the way things have drives.
[12:17] <shawnz> and the extension system
[12:17] <shawnz> and the centralized registry
[12:17] <OCA|> shawnz: I'm both a gamer, and a game developer (in training)... generally, you can't do editing functions in Linux.
[12:17] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, no, i'm talking about that guide site. (nothing there  about upgrading to breezY)
[12:17] <ChaosWolf> ok
[12:17] <tritium> OCA|, ???
[12:17] <ChaosWolf> i will to that again
[12:17] <OCA|> tritium: ?
[12:17] <ChaosWolf> ok?
[12:18] <shawnz> 'editing functions' <-- um
[12:18] <tritium> How can you not edit in linux?
[12:18] <shawnz> indeed
[12:18] <shawnz> what tritium said
[12:18] <OCA|> tritium: Last I checked, UnrealEd *does not work* in Linux.
[12:18] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i will do that
[12:18] <Chigua_loco> somebody speak spanish?
[12:18] <tritium> OCA|, whatever that is...
[12:18] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, it's ok.. try it out. read every piece.. (especially abou the sources.list part)
[12:18] <GNU-GPL> +t
[12:18] <shawnz> Last time I checked, nano didnt work in Windows
[12:18] <shawnz> :)
[12:18] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i forgot to do it i guess....
[12:18] <GNU-GPL> shawnz, lol
[12:18] <shawnz> well
[12:18] <shawnz> cygwin.
[12:18] <shawnz> but still ;p
[12:18] <Chigua_loco> anybody speak spanish?????
[12:18] <tritium> There are tons of editors in general to choose from
[12:18] <Seveas> !es
[12:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:19] <Chigua_loco> i need help on ubuntu
[12:19] <tritium> Chigua_loco, #ubuntu-es
[12:19] <Chigua_loco> tks
[12:19] <OCA|> tritium: Level editors?
[12:19] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL could u add me on your gaim or msn?
[12:19] <Chigua_loco> thanks!
[12:19] <OCA|> tritium: I'm not talking TEXT
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, i don't do msn
[12:19] <tritium> OCA|, I'm not into games, so I don't know
[12:19] <ChaosWolf> ok gnu
[12:19] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i will try so
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, good luck
[12:19] <OCA|> tritium: Aaah, see, I'm currently in school for level design.
[12:19] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL i will tell u something later
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:19] <shawnz> stupid x.
[12:19] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL thx for your dedication
[12:19] <shawnz> should I just reformat the thing you think?
[12:20] <ChaosWolf> GNU-GPL :D
[12:20] <OCA|> tritium: So the ability for me to run horrible, proprietary, buggy level editors is unfortunately paramount.
[12:20] <mindframe> Seveas, having trouble when i uncomment the universe lines in sources.list.  can i paste two lines?
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> ChaosWolf, :)
[12:20] <tritium> OCA|, I see...
[12:20] <vern401> I have a ralink wireless card
[12:20] <shawnz> mindframe: two lines != flood :p
[12:20] <OCA|> At least Maya has a Linux version, so there is *hope*....
[12:20] <trigg> koploper: sorry, went away for few minutes... good luck with the drive.  Sorry I couldn't fix the problem
[12:20] <typo_> how can i use pinning to "downgrade" from knoppix to ubuntu ?
[12:20] <OCA|> But they don't have an educational version for Linux, and I can't afford the full priced version right now.
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> mindframe, no you may not paste it
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[12:21] <mindframe> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:21] <Seveas> mindframe, that's 4 lines
[12:21] <shawnz> ummmmm
[12:21] <Seveas> and do an apt-get update
[12:21] <mindframe> thats what i did
[12:21] <Seveas> then paste the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin
[12:21] <Aron_Figaro> Hey guys, can somebody point me to a good howto on installing new modules?
[12:21] <fanskapet> hmm anyone know a bluetooth sync app that can sync with thunderbird against a ericsson z800i phone?
[12:21] <koploper> trigg: you did some good mind support though :)
[12:22] <trigg> koploper: thanks.  c ya
[12:22] <Aron_Figaro> I'm trying to install the i8k fan controller and can't even get to the point where I can use insmod on it. I feel totally newbish. :(
[12:22] <pirast> !grub
[12:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:22] <Seveas> shit.
[12:22] <OCA|> tritium: Anyawy, that doesn't mean I don't use Linux. It just can't be my primary OS.
[12:22] <GNU-GPL> seveas: shit is an acronim for pooh
[12:22] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[12:22] <vong> any one knows how to get the sound volume up on ubuntu? my sound play on low volume and don't know if it has something to do with the sound card. HELP
[12:23] <mindframe> nevermind, somehow i messed up one of the lines in sources.list
[12:24] <ilpavox> newbie question.  installed an rpm using alien, it down not work, and i can't seem to google a way to uninstall it *#&$^
[12:24] <LinuxJones> vong, double click the volume controle next to the clock.
[12:25] <LinuxJones> ilpavox, what program are you installing ?
[12:25] <vern401> my card is a ralink rt2500 how do I get the software installed
[12:25] <ilpavox> the jre from sun
[12:25] <Seveas> ilpavox, BAD idea
[12:25] <vong> LinuxJones, the volume is at its peak
[12:25] <shawnz> thats already in apt inst it ilpavox
[12:25] <Seveas> very bad even
[12:26] <Masura> Is some one from finland?
[12:26] <Blissex> vern401: the driver is part of the kernel. Just load the module and configure the stuff.
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> ilpavox : run ldconfig, see if javac or java works from there
[12:26] <vern401> how?
[12:26] <Seveas> ilpavox, what is the name of the debfile alien created?
[12:26] <Blissex> vern401: look at the RT2x000 website for details
[12:26] <vern401> am new to ubuntu
[12:26] <Seveas> Masura, #ubuntu-fi perhaps?
[12:26] <Masura> Ok.
[12:26] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anyone know if Gparted properly converts NTFS to FAT32 (Windows not on the partition)
[12:26] <Masura> Need some help :S
[12:26] <ilpavox> 1. i hear it is in apt, but it is not in my cache (yes i udated and listed all sources), 2. first i need to uninstall the version i already have still
[12:26] <Seveas> LethAL-Rocks, it does not.
[12:26] <Seveas> ilpavox, what is the name of the debfile alien created? <---
[12:26] <vern401> ok will try
[12:26] <Blissex> vern401: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[12:26] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anything else in Linux do it?
[12:26] <LinuxJones> vong, ok single click it and adjust the volume control
[12:27] <Seveas> LethAL-Rocks, nothin in linux or windows does that
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Actually
[12:27] <shawnz> what the f*ckkkkkkkkk
[12:27] <vern401> ty blissex
[12:27] <shawnz> I think i just found the problem.
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> PartitionManager and PartitionMagic can do it
[12:27] <bur[n] er> !tell vermyndax about repositories
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> I just didn't want to go back there
[12:27] <Seveas> without losing data?
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Yeah
[12:27] <ilpavox> seveas: jdl_1.5.0-1.diff.gz
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> I've done it before
[12:27] <lambic> can I ask a technical question here or I must go on another chanel? sorry, new on linux
[12:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Ask here
[12:27] <shawnz> while copying a ttf file into /usr/share/fonts, nautilus started acting funny, just ls'd the dir, its EMPTY
[12:27] <Seveas> ilpavox, no, it should have created a .deb file
[12:27] <shawnz> :/
[12:28] <shawnz> Seveas: did s/he use -i though.
[12:28] <Seveas> lambic, ask all you want :)
[12:28] <lambic> ok thanx
[12:28] <Seveas> shawnz, right...
[12:28] <Seveas> ilpavox, did you use alien -i?
[12:28] <ilpavox> seveas : yea, doing a locate for jdk that's all i get
[12:28] <shawnz> wow
[12:28] <shawnz> just got worse
[12:28] <ilpavox> seveas no alien <thing>.prm
[12:29] <shawnz> oh
[12:29] <shawnz> phew.
[12:29] <Seveas> ilpavox, and after that dpkg -i thing.deb?
[12:29] <topyli> bah. usplash sucks. i like my framebuffer console texts more :)
[12:29] <lambic> I've just installed linux ubuntu and I can't have a better resolution than 1024 60hz, I don't understand how to get the maximum of my gfxcard
[12:29] <Seveas> !tell lambic about resolution
[12:29] <shawnz> lambic: edit Xorg.conf manually
[12:29] <ilpavox> seveas : heh, didn't do that
[12:29] <shawnz> lol
[12:29] <Seveas> ilpavox, then you did not install it :)
[12:29] <shawnz> then it isnt installed
[12:29] <shawnz> :p
[12:29] <Seveas> (be glad!)
[12:29] <ilpavox> haha
[12:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Oooh... I needed to know about resolutions
[12:30] <Seveas> ilpavox, grab a .deb file from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:30] <Seveas> !tell LethAL-Rocks about resolution
[12:30] <shawnz> tbh, i had that problem too untill I edited xorg.conf, theres a better way? ;/
[12:30] <shawnz> !tell shawnz about resolution
[12:30] <shawnz> pft :(
[12:30] <[koji] > ilpavox: perhaps check bash_history to be sure
[12:30] <koploper> when i want to remove an app installed by deb, do i still need that deb package?
[12:30] <LethAL-Rocks> Is the default nVidia driver ok or is there better?
[12:30] <vong> LinuxJones, ok nothing changes. the matter here is, i'm doing a project that involves sound recording and playback. i can record the sound and play it well(audible)on my pc running suse 9.2 but can't get the sound clear in the my varsity lab running ubuntu
[12:31] <shawnz> koploper: it should be in the cache if you used apt
[12:31] <topyli> koploper: no, you just need to know its name
[12:31] <Seveas> koploper, no
[12:31] <topyli> or find out its name :)
[12:31] <bur[n] er> !tell LethAL-Rocks about nvidia
[12:31] <HiddenWolf> koploper, apt-get remove <name>
[12:31] <LinuxJones> vong, do you have more than 1 soundcard in your computer ?
[12:31] <Seveas> all relevant things needed for uninstalling are stored in /var/lib/dpkg
[12:31] <vong> LinuxJones, just 1
[12:32] <koploper> no i used dpkg
[12:32] <puff> Interesting.  I'm on ubuntu, firefox 1.0.6, somebody just sent me this URL:  http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/35499, and firefox fired off a dozen mplayer processes.
[12:32] <puff> Guess I should file a bug report.
[12:32] <Seveas> koploper, makes no difference :)
[12:32] <topyli> koploper: still. no difference
[12:32] <LinuxJones> vong, your sure your motherboard doesn't have a build in card that you think that your not using :)
[12:32] <jjazz> Is there a way to make magic files that, when opened for reading, instead of giving up their contents instead give up the output of their execution?  I have some dim recollection of doing something like this on a Vax in the early 90's.
[12:32] <Seveas> puff, it's not a bug
[12:32] <Seveas> it's simply a stupid webpage....
[12:32] <koploper> seveas topyli:  nice :)
[12:32] <shawnz> hm
[12:32] <Seveas> jjazz, ENOWAY afaik
[12:33] <shawnz> Seveas: which packages should I reinstall to get /usr/share/fonts back :p
[12:33] <Seveas> or you should want to play around with kernel modules and device nodes :)
[12:33] <shawnz> xfonts-*dpi?
[12:33] <puff> Seveas: You think the web page fired off a dozen copies of mplayer?
[12:33] <jjazz> Seveas:  enoway?
[12:33] <Seveas> jjazz, that means: not possible
[12:33] <ilpavox> shawnz: thanks
[12:33] <vermyndax> anyone know where I can find the exchange evolution plugin for Breezy Badger preview?
[12:33] <jjazz> Seveas:  Does it stand for something?
[12:34] <Seveas> jjazz, that means: not possible <---
[12:34] <Seveas> shawnz, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2050
[12:34] <flugh> if i try to dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, will chics dig me? or at least, will my OS still boot up? :)
[12:34] <shawnz> lol
[12:34] <shawnz> links
[12:34] <Seveas> puff, yes
[12:34] <shawnz> :(
[12:34] <vong> LinuxJones, i'm using the built in sound card
[12:34] <jjazz> Seveas:  OK.  Thanks.  I will find a less interesting solution to my problems...
[12:34] <Seveas> shawnz, hehe wait
[12:34] <Seveas> shawnz, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2050
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : whats the issue with firefox, 1.6 is released already but now on slashdot they say we need to upgrade to 1.5 beta because there is a root expliot?
[12:34] <shawnz> lol
[12:34] <antonio__> hi, how can i add items to the gnome application menu?
[12:35] <Seveas> that's in plaintext instead of html :)
[12:35] <shawnz> antonio__: apt-get install smeg
[12:35] <runelind> I'm trying to get my trendnet tew-441pc card working, but I'm having troubles doing so.  I thought it was based on an atheros chipset, but that does not appear to be the case
[12:35] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, 1.0.6 ...
[12:35] <LinuxJones> vong, do you know if your using the alsa drivers ?
[12:35] <Seveas> and slashdot trolls should not be followed
[12:35] <delltony> anyone know where i can find mplayer for breezy?
[12:35] <kevogod> Slashdot is about as reliable as Fox News
[12:35] <kevogod> zing
[12:35] <antonio__> shawnz, what is smeg?
[12:36] <kevogod> antonio__, Menu editor
[12:36] <puff> antonio__: It's what lister always says when he's frustrated.
[12:36] <vong> LinuxJones, i would not know since the lab administrator is the one dealing with that kind of stuff.
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> so should we install fiirefox 1.5 Beta or stay with .6?
[12:36] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, 1.0.6
[12:36] <shawnz> lol Seveas
[12:36] <vong> LinuxJones, what are they about?
[12:36] <shawnz> this may take a while
[12:36] <shawnz> >.<
[12:36] <Seveas> the 1.5 beta has exactly the same exploit
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> k thanks
[12:36] <kevogod> If there is a security exploit in 1.0.6, it will be fixed in 1.0.7
[12:36] <Seveas> and as long as you dont run ff as root it cannot be a *root* exploit
[12:37] <antonio__> the is no smeg in the apt repository ... shawnz
[12:37] <Seveas> kevogod, it will be fixed long before that in ubuntu packages
[12:37] <Seveas> !smeg
[12:37] <ubotu> I guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[12:37] <MachineScrew> any one know any thing about entrance
[12:37] <kevogod> Seveas, True
[12:38] <antonio__> ubotu, oh ... but where are the gnome files? or can i not edit the menu with native gnome tool?
[12:38] <ubotu> okay, antonio__
[12:38] <LinuxJones> vong, right click the volume control and select properties. Double check that there is only 1 device listed.
[12:38] <LethAL-Rocks> !tell me about refresh rates
[12:38] <Seveas> antonio__, not in hoary
[12:38] <LethAL-Rocks> Argh
[12:38] <antonio__> Seveas, neither in universe..
[12:38] <Seveas> !forget oh ... but where
[12:39] <ubotu> i forgot oh ... but where, Seveas
[12:39] <shawnz> err
[12:39] <shawnz> backports, antonio__
[12:39] <Seveas> antonio__, it's in backportds
[12:39] <shawnz> check them
[12:39] <Seveas> but you can also use the installscript on realistanew.com
[12:39] <shawnz> sheesh, no one adds backports these days
[12:39] <zorba64> LethAL-Rocks: what about 'em?
[12:39] <puff> Seveas:  Hm, reisio, over on #web, and zcat, tell me they don't get that mplayer behavior.  zcat says he's on fedoracore 4, reisio just says "linux, not ubuntu".
[12:39] <LethAL-Rocks> I need to fix it, it'll only go to 60Hz about 1024x768
[12:39] <Seveas> shawnz, it's because they are dead-slow and sucky :)
[12:39] <antonio__> so in ubuntu, for a normal user it is not possible to edit the gnome menu? the system is for my father...
[12:39] <shawnz> :o
[12:39] <LethAL-Rocks> I can get 1280x960x100 out of this
[12:39] <shawnz> not for me Seveas
[12:39] <shawnz> and i even have bleeding on it
[12:40] <Seveas> puff, send me the url
[12:40] <shawnz> :(
[12:40] <antonio__> what is a way without smeg?
[12:40] <puff> Seveas: send?
[12:40] <zorba64> LethAL-Rocks: Do you know your monitor HorizSync & VertRefresh rates?
[12:40] <Seveas> antonio__, manually editing .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[12:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Newp
[12:40] <Nexinarus> hi. when i get this message "error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.3.so:" what package do i need to install?
[12:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Well
[12:40] <puff> Seveas: Or do you mean email?
[12:40] <LethAL-Rocks> vong, yes
[12:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Vert*
[12:40] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: gtf can tell you your refreshrates... gtf 1280 960 60
[12:40] <vong> LinuxJones, yes there is RealTek ALC 880 AND HDA Intel (ALSA Mixer)
[12:40] <topyli> antonio__: get the smeg menu editor, it works
[12:40] <shawnz> Nexinarus: uh, libtk8.3? :p
[12:40] <antonio__> Seveas, but this are systemwide, what are the user based?
[12:41] <lambic> thanx everything's perfect now!!
[12:41] <Nexinarus> libtk8.3 isnt listed in synaptic
[12:41] <shawnz> antonio__: afaik there are no user based ones
[12:41] <LinuxJones> vong, ok selecte the alsa one from the list
[12:41] <Seveas> antonio__, ~/.local/
[12:41] <LinuxJones> vong, err select
[12:41] <shawnz> Nexinarus: checked backports and universe
[12:41] <LethAL-Rocks> Thanks popey
[12:41] <shawnz> nvm. listen to Seveas
[12:41] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: no probs, worked for me
[12:41] <LethAL-Rocks> Now what do I do with them?
[12:42] <coldfire> i got a small problem. my external USB drive is read only. so i can't delete anyting. how can i change this ?( so it isn't read only anymore)  thanks
[12:42] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf appropriately :D
[12:42] <antonio__> Seveas, there is no .local
[12:42] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh I see
[12:42] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: using those values
[12:42] <Seveas> puff, I get exactly one mplayer....
[12:42] <vong> LinuxJones, what is err select?
[12:42] <Seveas> antonio__, then create it
[12:42] <ubuntu> my firs time to ever use linux!
[12:42] <LinuxJones> vong, next run gstreamer-properties and select alsa in the default output sink section and press test to verify that it works.
[12:42] <Seveas> or rather: just use smeg...
[12:42] <popey> ubotu: Welcome!
[12:42] <ubotu> popey: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:42] <test34> http://juicability.blogspot.com/2005/09/top-8-reasons-hci-is-in-its-stone-age.html
[12:42] <popey> oops
[12:42] <popey> ubuntu: welcome!
[12:42] <puff> Seveas: Hm, must be something funky about my packages, then.
[12:42] <shawnz> popey: isnt there an, erm, 'graphical' sh script that does it
[12:42] <LinuxJones> vong, just click it
[12:42] <popey> shawnz: there may well be :D
[12:42] <LinuxJones> vong, then press close
[12:42] <shawnz> xconfig or something
[12:43] <test34> ubuntu developpers should read that
[12:43] <topyli> ubuntu: welcome to the free world :)
[12:43] <shawnz> O.o
[12:43] <puff> Seveas: Thank you, I will try uninstalling mplayer and reinstalling it.
[12:44] <vong> LinuxJones, how do i run gstreamer-properties? excuse the questions, i'm new to ubuntu
[12:44] <coldfire> i got a small problem. my external USB drive is read only. so i can't delete anyting. how can i change this ?( so it isn't read only anymore)  thanks
[12:44] <mcphail> shawnz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:45] <mcphail> coldfire: does it have a write-protect switch on it?
[12:45] <shawnz> mcphail: i think that just starts the script I was referring to
[12:45] <LinuxJones> vong, that's ok hit alt + F2 and start typing gstreamer-properties (It will auto-complete for you)
[12:45] <coldfire> nope it doesn't
[12:45] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm lost with what to do with thses SYnc values and xorg.conf
[12:46] <mcphail> coldfire: how is it formatted? FAT32?
[12:46] <shawnz> LethAL-Rocks: do what mcphail said.
[12:46] <topyli> test34: seems like a pretty normal rant you can read once in a while. the good news is, we do have much of that already, and more is on the way :)
[12:46] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: http://popey.com/xorg.conf  might give you clues
[12:46] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: it's my wifes xorg.conf
[12:46] <shawnz> lol
[12:46] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: and has the lines like yours in it
[12:46] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[12:46] <coldfire> i think it's becouse i need root access or something but i don't know how to do that. it IS FAT32, i can read all files on it. i USED to be able to write to it but now i got a new user it won't write to it anymore
[12:47] <Adross> ahoy, for english extension, i have to make a gothic commercial. Done pretty much everything, except it needs a background soundtrack. However, I really don't know any piece of music that would work for this. As such, could anyone interested please download http://home.exetel.com.au/adrenal/commercial.ogg and suggest any music they think would fit?
[12:47] <ztrek7> i am hoping there is someone in here to help me with opengl
[12:48] <Natalie> Hi, I am having a little problem installing phpMyAdmin on Ubuntu Hoary, I have apache2 running and mySQL ok but when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin it tries to redirect to /cgi-bin/php4/phpmyadmin/index.php and I get a 404 error, I have looked everwhere for a clue on how to fix it, including the mailinglist archives, the forums and the wiki, can anyone here give me a pointer in the right direction?
[12:48] <lambic_> I'm looking for a good media player just like winamp in windows, wich one is better for linux?
[12:48] <shawnz> lambic_: vlc.
[12:48] <mcphail> coldfire: when you enter 'mount', is it described as 'rw' or 'ro'?
[12:48] <Seveas> lambic_, beep-media-player
[12:48] <vong> LinuxJones, it's now somewhat better but still low
[12:48] <[koji] > lambic: xmms
[12:48] <shawnz> lol
[12:48] <popey> lambic: beep-media-player
[12:48] <ronin_> I think xmms
[12:48] <coldfire> Natalie 404 is file not found. be sure the files are in the correct space
[12:48] <ronin_> will dd
[12:48] <popey> not xmms
[12:49] <shawnz> vlc 8-)
[12:49] <LinuxJones> vong, now go back to the volume control and re-adjust the volume settings
[12:49] <coldfire> mcphail it says rw
[12:49] <shawnz> coldfire: can you use it as root
[12:49] <LinuxJones> vong, is it still low ?
[12:49] <zorba64> coldfire: chown -R username.users /path/to/usbdrive
[12:49] <antonio__> smeg is no good :(
[12:49] <vong> LinuxJones, it's perfect. thanx a lot
[12:50] <ztrek7> every time i open opengl program, system freezes HARD, have to power down system. Toshiba Laptop, Kubuntu 5.4, intel 915gm video, using i810 driver, any ideas? Any help?
[12:50] <LinuxJones> vong, excellent, you will want to go back to gstreamer properties and select alsa for input as well. Will be much better
[12:50] <coldfire> can i just log in as root like a normal user ?
[12:51] <disasm> coldfire: your not "supposed to" but it is possible
[12:51] <shawnz> coldfire: not usually, but you can open a terminal in your current user, and use 'sudo bash' to do it
[12:51] <mcphail> coldfire: how did you create the new user?
[12:51] <Natalie> coldfire thanks, I realise that its a file not found but I am not sure where the file it is looking for should come from, it redirects ok so its doing something] 
[12:51] <Seveas> Natalie, did you install the phpmyadmin package?
[12:51] <coldfire> allrighti created it using  system->admin->users and group
[12:52] <Seveas> shawnz, BAD idea
[12:52] <Seveas> sudo -i
[12:52] <shawnz> :o
[12:52] <Seveas> that's the oly way to get a proper root shell
[12:52] <mcphail> coldfire: you need to allow your user automatic access to drives. Did you do this when you set it up?
[12:52] <coldfire> probebly not
[12:52] <shawnz> didnt know that
[12:52] <shawnz> :o
[12:52] <Natalie> coldfire yes I did, through synaptic,
[12:53] <mcphail> coldfire: worth checking, just in case. may not be the problem, however.
[12:53] <shawnz> ah Seveas, that sets up the whole deal, env and all?
[12:53] <disasm> Seveas: whats sudo -i do differently than sudo bash?
[12:53] <shawnz> and login shell
[12:53] <Seveas> shawnz, yes
[12:53] <vong> LinuxJones, 'tis fine alright. thanx 1ce more
[12:53] <shawnz> i see
[12:53] <Seveas> disasm, read the manpage for sudoers :)
[12:53] <DaMi3n> How do i format ntfs partitions on my hdd and mount them as /data??
[12:53] <shawnz> errr
[12:53] <DaMi3n> How do i format ntfs partitions on my hdd and mount them as /data??
[12:53] <Seveas> DaMi3n, mkfs formats
[12:54] <coldfire> i have every userpermission there is on this account. so i doubt thats the problem
[12:54] <Natalie> seveas yes I did, through synaptic,
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> what do i use to allow mp3s to play while i play a game like quake? want to have two audio streams going to my speakers..
[12:54] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : mkfs??
[12:54] <Seveas> DaMi3n, yes, mkfs
[12:54] <DaMi3n> and mounting as /data??
[12:54] <jacaru> hello all! i cant write cds since last breezy update. cdwriter device changed group to "plugdev" and this group has not write permissions to the device. Is this common?
[12:54] <shawnz> mount?
[12:54] <shawnz> :p
[12:54] <DaMi3n> oh ok
[12:54] <Seveas> mount /dev/hdd /data
[12:54] <thomerz_> is there a way, to "downgrade" a normal ubuntu installation to a "server" installation?
[12:54] <ronin_> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx
[12:54] <ronin_> Seveas is right :D
[12:54] <Seveas> thomerz_, use debfoster to purge ubuntu desktop
[12:54] <neuronlapse> Hey, I need some help with an initrd I'm building. Everything goes fine except it can't seem to find /dev/hda3, even tho it's correctly defined in /dev. 'fdisk -l' shows no data, as though no hard disk exists. The only possibility I can think of is if I accidentally compiled the hard disk support out of the kernel. I'm using a Toshiba Portege 7020ct laptop with a regular EIDE hard disk - what kernel option might it be? Th
[12:54] <neuronlapse> anks!
[12:55] <shawnz> thomerz_: not really, a risky choice would be apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <shawnz> note *risky*
[12:55] <Seveas> shawnz, not risky at all :)
[12:55] <shawnz> and theres still some nonserver packages that get installed other than ubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <shawnz> Seveas: broke for me a couple times
[12:55] <shawnz> oh actually.
[12:55] <shawnz> that was when i was trying to reinstall alsa.
[12:55] <Seveas> :)
[12:56] <shawnz> it removed ubuntu-base
[12:56] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : shud i got for ext2 or ext3??
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> neuronlapse : make the kernel options for your disk * not M and skip initrd usage
[12:56] <thomerz_> mh so i better wait for breezy and do a fresh install
[12:56] <Seveas> DaMi3n, ext3
[12:56] <shawnz> ext3 if its a big drive
[12:56] <Seveas> DaMi3n, you know that you will lose all data?
[12:56] <DaMi3n> okay
[12:56] <DaMi3n> yea
[12:56] <zorba64> DaMi3n: why ntfs...u need windows access to it?
[12:56] <Seveas> zorba64, he is ditching ntfs :)
[12:56] <shawnz> if you need to access it from windows, go for ext2
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> peeps.. i'm off..
[12:57] <DaMi3n> shawnz, : nah i just gave up on windows
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> going to my dreamworld
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> shawnz : ext2 and 3 is backwards compatible
[12:57] <neuronlapse> lsuactiafner: I figured they'd need be compiled in rather than modules, but I can't find any unchecked option that might apply. Also, initrd is essential in this case (using dm-crypt for encrypted root)
[12:57] <topyli> shawnz: ext3 is just as well
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> see you later..
[12:57] <vong> LinuxJones, do you do any programming?
[12:57] <shawnz> erm
[12:57] <shawnz> i said
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> bye bye
[12:57] <shawnz> if he wants to use it from windows.
[12:57] <jacaru> i cant write cds since last breezy update. cdwriter device changed group to "plugdev" and this group has not write permissions to the device. Is this common?
[12:57] <OCA|> Grub's method of referring to a drive (hd0,1) is different from what I'm used to. How can I find out in Linux how a drive should be referenced in Grub?
[12:57] <shawnz> most all the ext3windows drivers out there are ro
[12:58] <darksatanic> OCA|: Look in /boot/grub/device.map
[12:58] <shawnz> OCA|: hdPHISICAL,PARTITION
[12:58] <jacaru> OCA or just use find commando to recognize drives
[12:58] <Seveas> OCA|, hda = hd0   hda1 = hd0,0
[12:58] <Seveas> do the math for the rest :)
[12:58] <darksatanic> OCA|: Drives are numbered from zero, in BIOS order. Partition numbers are one less than the Linux partition numbers.
[12:58] <jameswfrost> hello
[12:59] <shawnz> same as HD?# lists, just zerobased, and in numbers instead of letters
[12:59] <jacaru> ok nobody knows the deal with pmount, plugdev group and cd burner?
[12:59] <topyli> shawnz: i only know one, and it's ro for both :)
[12:59] <Seveas> shawnz, yes
[12:59] <OCA|> aaaah, okay, so in my case hd1,0 is /dev/sda1 it looks like. Thanks!
[12:59] <Vexir> How do I get the flash player plugin for firefox?
[12:59] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : umm it says device is busy,, should i force unmount it??
[12:59] <vong> anyone who knows about sound programming?
[12:59] <qatsi> hi helllo !
[12:59] <shawnz> topyli: there are ext2windows rw drivers out there...
[12:59] <Seveas> Vexir, sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:59] <ali4728> Does anyone run 'proftpd' on Ubuntu?
[12:59] <topyli> shawnz: what i do know is, ext2 and 3 are the same, it's just the journaling added
[01:00] <Seveas> ali4728, proftpd is insecure - vsftpd is the only good choice
[01:00] <jameswfrost> Has anybody had a problem burning the Breezy preview AMD_64 live CD?
[01:00] <shawnz> yeah topyli
[01:00] <jameswfrost> I'm getting a write error when I try and burn it.
[01:00] <shawnz> and most drivers can't do journaling
[01:00] <Seveas> DaMi3n, if you want to mkfs it, then yes :)
[01:00] <shawnz> so they just mount it ro in windows
[01:00] <shawnz> (ime)
[01:00] <qatsi> im having the typical issue with Broadcom Wireless and Ubuntu....ive already installed ndiswrapper with the windows driver, and its working, but if i do iwconfig, it says that its off, how do i turn it on in order to get it working ?
[01:00] <mcphail> qatsi: sudo ifup wlan0
[01:01] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : umm umount -f doesmt work.. it still says device busy
[01:01] <ali4728> thnx Seveas I am trying proftpd and remote access is not possible!
[01:01] <topyli> oh no, another X upgrade
[01:01] <mike998> qatsi : Just to let you know there is a really neat wifi radar app available in Breezy
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> umount -l
[01:01] <uglysmurf> any of you guys use gdesklets in ubuntu?
[01:01] <Seveas> DaMi3n, lsof /path/to/mountpoint
[01:01] <Gabuzera> como instalar programas no linux?
[01:01] <Seveas> kill whatever is using it
[01:01] <qatsi> ahhh mike, im just installing breeze in my desktop, ill try it her
[01:01] <disasm> DaMi3n: are you trying to unmount it and in the directory currently?
[01:01] <Seveas> Gabuzera, please etick to english in here
[01:02] <qatsi> mcphail: mcphail:
[01:02] <Vexir> Seveas: it couldnt find the package
[01:02] <OCA|> After editing grub's config, do I need to do something to make it take effect?
[01:02] <jacaru> anybody knows if it is possible to chainload grub from grub? because it is not working for me
[01:02] <Seveas> uglysmurf, I used them, but they are resource-hungry
[01:02] <sorush20> how can I fix gnome I try to log in and it just flickers .. can someone help please.
[01:02] <mike998> qatsi : really worth it - trust me !
[01:02] <jameswfrost> Has anyone had a problem burning the breezy AMD64 live CD? I'm getting a write error, which I've never had before.
[01:02] <crashbox> how do install the plugin for gnomebaker or k3b to allow me to write audio cd's?
[01:02] <Seveas> Vexir, enable multiverse
[01:02] <shawnz> OCA|: try ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[01:02] <qatsi> mcphail: Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[01:02] <Seveas> !repsoitories
[01:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Seveas
[01:02] <DaMi3n> disasm, : no
[01:02] <shawnz> (closes all your programs)
[01:02] <uglysmurf> Seveas, i think they (or maybe just the desklet i'm using) has a memory leak
[01:02] <Gabuzera> how can i install programas in linux?
[01:02] <OCA|> shawnz: To update Grub?
[01:02] <Seveas> !tell Vexir about repsitories
[01:02] <topyli> crashbox: it's supposed to just work
[01:02] <mike998> brb
[01:02] <Seveas> uglysmurf, I'm not surprised
[01:02] <Vexir> you mean
[01:02] <mcphail> qatsi: have you performed modprobe ndiswrapper?
[01:02] <qatsi> mike, ill try it :)
[01:02] <Vexir> !tell Vexir about repositories
[01:02] <Vexir> haha
[01:03] <crashbox> heh, ummmmmmm
[01:03] <qatsi> mcphail yep, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:03] <shawnz> oca|, sorry, read that as gnome.
[01:03] <kevogod> Gabuzera, Use Synaptic. System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[01:03] <shawnz> grub updates on reboot.
[01:03] <kbhchr001> guys
[01:03] <OCA|> shawnz: Ah hah! that would make sense then.
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> Gabuzera : apt-get install program
[01:03] <vong> sound programming, anyone?
[01:03] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : lsof /mnt/win/ shows no output
[01:03] <mcphail> qatsi: and ndiswrapper -l says that your hardware is present?
[01:03] <Seveas> shawnz, it does not...
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> Gabuzera : apt-cache search network ; will list programs you might want
[01:03] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : so i cant figure out whast using it
[01:03] <shawnz> Seveas?
[01:03] <Seveas> grubs config is update when you upgrade the kernel
[01:03] <OCA|> shawnz: Grub fails, error 17, on reboot. I can boot to liveCD and edit the grub config file, but that seems to make no difference. Is it possible from the livecd to re-install grub in the MBR?
[01:03] <qatsi> mcphail hardware present, driver present
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> Gabuzera : freshmeat.net is a nice resource to find programs you are looking for, then type apt-get install program
[01:04] <Seveas> DaMi3n, then retry unmounting
[01:04] <fanskapet> agh.. bad i can't seem to show the services on my mobilephone via bluetooth
[01:04] <neuronlapse> anyone? :)
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> Gabuzera : or synaptic
[01:04] <fanskapet> Failed to connect to SDP server on 00:12:EE:4A:A8:4B: File descriptor in bad state
[01:04] <DaMi3n> Seveas, dint work
[01:04] <mcphail> qatsi: one moment...
[01:04] <Seveas> !recoveringgrub
[01:04] <ubotu> recoveringgrub is, like, totally, at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:04] <DaMi3n> Seveas, it still says device busy
[01:04] <Seveas> ^-- OCA|
[01:04] <kbhchr001> guys i need help here
[01:04] <crashbox> this is what i get when using knome baker, The plugin to handle a file of type MP3 audio is not installed.
[01:04] <reagleBRKLN> having trouble with cd writing, `cdrecord -scanbus` yields No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. however, if i tell it to scan /dev/hdc (dvd) or /dev/hdd its fine. if I add those to xcdroast it sees them, k3b seemingly sees them, but they don't want to write to it. i can even erase a cdrw...?
[01:04] <Seveas> DaMi3n, hmmz...
[01:04] <OCA|> Thanks =)
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> DaMi3n : if you are brave umount -l device
[01:04] <Seveas> DaMi3n, pkill gam_server
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> DaMi3n : but it wont save your data...
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> might crash apps using the device
[01:05] <crashbox> topyli, this is what i get when using knome baker, The plugin to handle a file of type MP3 audio is not installed.
[01:05] <DaMi3n> lsuactiafner, : ok
[01:05] <kbhchr001> do any 1 knows about sound programming?
[01:05] <bluefoxicy> do many linksys desktop wireless adaptors work with linux
[01:05] <bluefoxicy> or am I SOL there
[01:05] <mcphail> qatsi: have you set up /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:05] <topyli> crashbox: oh but that's conversion from mp3 to wav, not burning :) search for "lame" in synaptic
[01:06] <kbhchr001> guys pleeeeeeeeeez
[01:06] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : i did umount -l now its unmounted and nothing seems to have crasshed
[01:06] <qatsi> mcphail: never done that
[01:06] <reagleBRKLN> just like this problem http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/06/msg00080.html
[01:06] <kbhchr001> help
[01:06] <mcphail> qatsi: what devices does iwconfig list?
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> kbhchr001 : what do you want to do? we dont read minds
[01:06] <crashbox> topyli, i did, bunch of pkgs, which one do i need, alme and lame-extras already installed
[01:06] <vern401> I cant get mine to compile the source for it I followed the Directions and it always errors
[01:07] <topyli> crashbox: also, gstreamer0.8-mad would be a useful package
[01:07] <qatsi> eth0, lo and wlan0
[01:07] <Gabuzera> I download the quake3 arena at superdownloads.com.br, what can i do to install the file in my systen
[01:07] <mcphail> qatsi: join #flood and i'll paste my /etc/network/interfaces
[01:07] <qatsi> mcphail:  the only one with wireless is wlan0, eth0 and lo arent showin anhthing....normal, i guess
[01:07] <qatsi> mcphail:  ok, ill go there
[01:07] <DaMi3n> Seveas, ok i did mkfs what next??
[01:08] <shawnz> eth0 is for ethernet cards
[01:08] <shawnz> lo is localhost
[01:08] <shawnz> wlan0 is wireless afaik.
[01:08] <qatsi> mcphail:  im there
[01:08] <mcphail> qatsi: just a moment
[01:08] <crashbox> topyli, installing, all plugins, lets see what happens, thanks
[01:08] <prawcess> hey whats up everyone?
[01:09] <nikita> hello what does this mean computer3 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[01:09] <kbhchr001> hey nikita
[01:09] <searcher`> nikita: that means you can't use sudo for that user
[01:09] <SymGeosis> It means that the account "computer3" doesn't have sudo priveledges.
[01:09] <mcphail> qatsi: you may want to have your card configured by dhcp instead
[01:09] <searcher`> add that use to the adm group
[01:09] <DaMi3n> shawnz, i did mkfs.. now how do i write the partition
[01:10] <uglysmurf> Seveas, just found a post on gdesklets forum...i'm not the only one experiencing this massive leak, could be a problem with librsvg
[01:10] <searcher`> *user
[01:10] <kbhchr001> do u know any thing abt sound programing
[01:10] <prawcess> I have an intel graphics question if anyone has a second
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> prawcess : 810 chipset sucks
[01:10] <qatsi> mcphail:  yep, dhcp
[01:10] <shawnz> DaMi3n: don't ask me ;p
[01:10] <prawcess> lol
[01:10] <DaMi3n> l0l
[01:11] <shawnz> erm
[01:11] <shawnz> 0 :/
[01:11] <poypoy> is there a way to get more panel items to add to panels? I googled to no avail :\
[01:11] <DaMi3n> shawnz, : pweaaassseeeee
[01:11] <prawcess> Yeah i'm having a heck of a time finding a driver.  (resolutin is stuck at 640)
[01:11] <mcphail> qatsi: just change "static" to dhcp and comment out the lines with ip addresses
[01:11] <nikita> what should i do?
[01:11] <bluefoxicy> Seveas: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14270  :P
[01:11] <qatsi> mcphail:  allright, ill try it :) and tell you whats up in a sec...
[01:11] <shawnz> prawcess: i can only wish you good luck if you're using an intel onboard.
[01:11] <topyli> poypoy: right click on the panel, choose "add stuff" :)
[01:11] <mcphail> qatsi: when you're ready, try sudo ifup wlan0 again
[01:11] <SymGeosis> Anybody know how to kill a remote ftp connection to your box?
[01:12] <prawcess> I updated the sources.list and tried finding a repository and still nothing
[01:12] <steve__> is there anything I should know or do before installing an audigy 5:1 soundcard using hoary
[01:12] <SymGeosis> Without disabling the network interface (in this case eth0)
[01:12] <yonkeltron> GOOD SHABBOS!!!
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> prawcess : kernel supports it, try changing the sync, vsync options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to display higher resolutions
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> !resolution
[01:12] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:12] <DaMi3n> prawcess, : which chipset??
[01:12] <poypoy> yes I know topyli, but I mean is there more you can download, because there isnt a lot :\
[01:12] <prawcess> 845gl
[01:12] <tommy2> Hey Guys! I'm back. I just installed the latest version of Ubuntu. I'm pretty new to Linux, so this is pretty exciting.
[01:12] <prawcess> SymGeosis: just kill the process their session is running on bro
[01:12] <DaMi3n> try reconfiguring xorg
[01:13] <topyli> poypoy: oh i dunno, i don't miss much. look at gnomefiles.org or something
[01:13] <shawnz> yep tommy2, installing linux is a great feeling.
[01:13] <SymGeosis> prawcess, I suppose I could do that. Thanks.
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell prawcess about resolution
[01:13] <shawnz> ...
[01:13] <prawcess> DaMi3n: thats the thing, I dont know too much beyond the general usage stuff.
[01:13] <mcphail> tommy2: well done
[01:13] <shawnz> ubotu is a bot?
[01:13] <ubotu> shawnz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:13] <shawnz> 8-)
[01:13] <topyli> tommy2: welcome to the free world!
[01:13] <shawnz> ubotu: you are a bot.
[01:13] <ubotu> shawnz: what are you talking about?
[01:13] <shawnz> you
[01:13] <prawcess> Config files are out of my league
[01:13] <shawnz> being a bot.
[01:13] <disasm> SymGeosis: kill <process_id> you could also try killall ftpd or just stop the ftp server from running if you don't know what process id it is
[01:14] <shawnz> disasm...
[01:14] <shawnz> he just wants to close one connection
[01:14] <topyli> !lart shawnz
[01:14] <shawnz> isnt there like tcpview but for linux or something
[01:14] <shawnz> lmao
[01:14] <DaMi3n> prawcess, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:14] <prawcess> I have been searching the web for a few days and couldnt find anything ( I like to look in depth before I ask)
[01:14] <shawnz> solaris
[01:14] <DaMi3n> prawcess, try that
[01:14] <shawnz> im so ashamed
[01:14] <tommy2> This is great. I was almost tempted to install it on my dual Raptor, RAID-O setup... But I wasn't sure how Ubuntu handles Rain Configs.
[01:14] <shawnz> :(
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> shawnz : iftop or slurm i like
[01:14] <SymGeosis> disasm, thanks but my question was already answered. I thought there might be a slightly more elegant way to close remote connections but whatever. *shrugs*
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> tcpdump is bit hectic
[01:14] <topyli> shawnz: solaris 7 even :)
[01:15] <shawnz> indeed
[01:15] <Derkommissar> Hello
[01:15] <shawnz> all the worse
[01:15] <shawnz> :(
[01:15] <Derkommissar> upgraded to breezy
[01:15] <Derkommissar> i thing
[01:15] <jacaru> has anybody used the cdwriter under ubuntu breezy today?
[01:15] <Derkommissar> i think
[01:15] <shawnz> i dont know who should be more imbarassed, me or sun
[01:15] <shawnz> em*
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP <-- should block all ftp connections
[01:15] <Derkommissar> but i cant install the desktop like the instructions say
[01:15] <Derkommissar> Package ubuntu-desktop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:15] <mcphail> tommy2: i think there have been a few probs with software RAID recently
[01:15] <shawnz> uncomment universe and cdrom Derkommissar
[01:15] <Seveas> Derkommissar, then your sources.list is messed up
[01:16] <shawnz> in apt sources
[01:16] <DaMi3n> how do i format my ntfs partition
[01:16] <chavo> SymGeosis, which ftp daemon is it?
[01:16] <Seveas> Derkommissar: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:16] <cute_bettong> anyone hear play counter strike in breezy?
[01:16] <shawnz> that reminds me
[01:16] <Lunar_Lamp> when i do "sudo iwconfig", my wireless card is not detected - how do i go about getting it detected?
[01:16] <tommy2> Yeah, it is a software Raid setup. And this is my 3rd operating system, along with XP and Fedora. I'm going to have to figure out a way to selectively boot.
[01:16] <shawnz> ive got to look through that fonts list
[01:16] <shawnz> :p
[01:16] <tommy2> Do I need to install any drivers? Everything seems to be working. I did get a crash when I tried to access About Me though
[01:16] <zorba64> DaMi3n: thought u wanted ext3?
[01:16] <SymGeosis> chavo, wu-ftpd
[01:16] <shawnz> tommy2: always does that afaik.
[01:16] <bluefoxicy> God XD
[01:16] <DaMi3n> zorba64, yes
[01:16] <bluefoxicy> i'm looking at my older bugs
[01:16] <DaMi3n> zorba64, i did mkfs
[01:16] <prawcess> Dami3n: on that partition question, i'd just use a winme bootdisk
[01:16] <bluefoxicy> and i'm like
[01:16] <bluefoxicy> "Why the hell did I post that?"
[01:17] <shawnz> rofl.
[01:17] <DaMi3n> prawcess, : win wont do a ext3
[01:17] <zorba64> DaMi3n: mkfs.ext3 /dev/?
[01:17] <Vexir> How do I become root
[01:17] <DaMi3n> zorba64, done that what next
[01:17] <majikstreet> sudo su
[01:17] <majikstreet> then you enter your password
[01:17] <Vexir> how dooo i become root so i can extract something into /etc
[01:17] <tommy2> I need to tell my father who is a Fedora fan to try out Ubuntu. This is nice stuff. :D I'll be back later, it's time to expirement!
[01:17] <Vexir> majikstreet: doesnt that only apply to the terminal toh
[01:18] <zorba64> DaMi3n: make a mount point and mount it
[01:18] <Seveas> Vexir, why do you want to extract something in /etc?
[01:18] <Seveas> that is generally a bad idea...
[01:18] <topyli> oh my, banshee packages!
[01:18] <Vexir> i gotta install something..
[01:18] <chavo> SymGeosis, should be something like => ftpdctl kick user
[01:18] <Vexir> i wanna install thunderbird
[01:18] <Seveas> Vexir, what?
[01:18] <Seveas> thunderbird is in the repositories
[01:18] <Vexir> .............
[01:18] <Seveas> DO NOT install it manually
[01:18] <Vexir> how do i get it?
[01:18] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : wwll mkfs completed successfully.. howevr when i do fdisk -l it still shows up as ntfs
[01:18] <Seveas> system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[01:18] <SymGeosis> chavo, thanks. I'm looking at the man page right now. Note to self: get more than one hour of sleep before asking retarded questions.
[01:19] <chavo> aha you still sleep, that's the problem
[01:19] <chavo> you gotta quit cold turkey
[01:19] <SymGeosis> Yeah, you would have thought I would have broken that pesky habit by now...
[01:19] <zorba64> DaMi3n: is it a newly created partition, or are you formatting and old one?
[01:19] <Camo> i have a windows install on hdc, but when i try booting with that it loads GRUB, which has an error
[01:19] <topyli> sleep is for the weak
[01:19] <DaMi3n> zorba64, formatting an old one
[01:20] <DaMi3n> Seveas, umm do i need to do anything else after mkfs
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, n00b question, how do i find out what kernel i am running?
[01:20] <Seveas> DaMi3n, open cfdisk and change the partition type to 83
[01:20] <puff> Hm, okay, used apt to remove and reinstall mplayer, reloaded the page (without restarting firefox), same result.  233 processes with "mplayer" in the command (presumably half those were shell commands to start mplayer, the other half were the processes themselves.  Load shot up to 43+.  killed the mplayer processes.
[01:20] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp, uname -r
[01:20] <zorba64> DaMi3n: unmount it then format then remount..?
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks Seveas !
[01:20] <puff> I will assume, therefore, that it is something in either my installation, or in the package.
[01:20] <CATLI_NL> good evening people greetings from The Netherlands to you All!
[01:21] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : its alrady unmounted
[01:21] <fashionboy> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 'Hoary' from i386 boot-cd. I have a question, when the cd boots I typed the arguments: expert acpi=on vga=771. I did all things but now it's installing all the software into the CD why? I just typed 'expert' I think it worked like in Debian that install only the base system if you tipe 'expert'. Any idea?
[01:21] <Seveas> DaMi3n, and formatted ;)
[01:21] <DaMi3n> yea
[01:21] <puff> But for now, time for a break.
[01:21] <Seveas> now you just make the partition type 83 with cfdisk
[01:21] <CATLI_NL> anybody experience with sn9c102 driver
[01:21] <qatsi> ok, its strange. Ive just installed ubuntu, and when i try to sign in to kde, instead of letters, i get squares, so i cant log in, any idea ? 've tried changing the keyboad to spanish, but no luck....
[01:21] <DaMi3n> Seveas, okay
[01:21] <SymGeosis> fashionboy, when I want the base system I just type "server"
[01:22] <puff> That's mplayer-586, btw. So maybe I should try mozilla-mplayer and mplayer-386.
[01:22] <fblade> hey guys you know where i could get the orignal soruce list for ubuntu hoary
[01:22] <puff> But first, I'm going to go get something to eat.
[01:22] <fashionboy> SymGeosis: is it the solution? :)
[01:22] <DaMi3n> Seveas, logical/primary??
[01:22] <puff> I'll report back later on how that goes.
[01:22] <SymGeosis> fashionboy, It's what I use for the base install. =)
[01:22] <Camo> i need some help getting windows to boot from a grub thingy on hdd, when the windows is on hdc, i tried what was on the ubuntu guide and it didnt work
[01:22] <fblade> hey guys you know where i could get the orignal UK soruce list for ubuntu hoary*
[01:22] <SymGeosis> fashionboy, it doesn't install any pesky Apache or PHP servers.
[01:22] <jacaru> with the new breezy updates today, suddenly cdwriter group changed to "plugdev" without write permissions. How are we supossed to burn cds like that?
[01:23] <topyli> damn. neither muine or banshee seem to support streams. is it a mono problem?
[01:23] <cute_bettong> anyone have problems playting counter strike in breezy?
[01:24] <Lunar_Lamp> i am trying to follow these instructions: http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/rt2400.html - however it says i need to install kernel source, but when i apt-get it says it can't find it
[01:24] <CATLI_NL> does anybody know how to see wich webcam driver is using /dev/video0
[01:24] <CATLI_NL> what is the command therefore
[01:24] <vader1102> Lunar_Lamp, they are called linux-headers in ubuntu
[01:24] <topyli> Lunar_Lamp: we have linux-source-* instead of kernel-source-* like debian does
[01:25] <DaMi3n> Seveas, : finally writing to the partition... yay
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> right - does that mean i cannot use that method to make my wifi card work then?
[01:25] <ezenu> off topic.. in java, you can make octal int by leading with zero. any way to make a binary int
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> im very new to this (as you prob guess) so need detailed instructions
[01:25] <CATLI_NL> how can i see wich driver is loaded at /dev/video0
[01:25] <shawnz> btw Seveas half of those font packages arent in my apt
[01:25] <shawnz> oh well
[01:25] <shawnz> CATLI_NL: ubuntu device manager?
[01:26] <cute_bettong> anyone have problems using counterstrike in breezy?
[01:26] <CATLI_NL> no at the command prompt
[01:26] <CATLI_NL> i think i loaded a wrong driver at /dev/video0
[01:27] <qatsi> ok, i didnt set up a root user password...and i cant do su, cuz i dont have the password, what shall i do ?
[01:27] <CATLI_NL> i loaded the spca5xx driver in place of the sn9c102 driver
[01:27] <DaMi3n> Seveas, umm an error
[01:27] <DaMi3n> Seveas, it says WroNo primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.e.
[01:27] <CATLI_NL> shawns can you help me please
[01:28] <zorba64> DaMi3n: ignore it for a linux only system
[01:28] <DaMi3n> well then it just doesnt write to the fs
[01:28] <DaMi3n> fdisk -l shows it as ntfs
[01:28] <Derkommissar> thanks
[01:28] <Derkommissar> do i have to do it all over again ?
[01:29] <Derkommissar> Seveas, i get the same thing
[01:29] <CATLI_NL> is there maybee anybody to help me out of this sh*t
[01:29] <ilpavox> anyone know of a multiverse with sun java in it?
[01:30] <Derkommissar> Seveas, isnt that the respository for hoary, im trying to use breeze
[01:30] <zorba64> DaMi3n:thought u said it was writing??
[01:30] <DaMi3n> zorba64, yes and then it gave an error and stopped
[01:30] <OCA|> Is it possible that what a device appears to be for grub when running Ubuntu through the live CD, to be completely different when the BIOS is booting to an external USB drive?
[01:31] <shawnz> rofl
[01:31] <shawnz> `Speedo is not a directory'
[01:31] <zorba64> DaMi3n: fdisk says ntfs && cfdisk says what?
[01:31] <DaMi3n> zorba64, , cfdosk says WroNo primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.e.
[01:31] <zorba64> DaMi3n: u may habe to use the "windows" solution and reboot to update the partition table
[01:31] <DaMi3n> why windows
[01:32] <DaMi3n> i never had windows in the first place
[01:32] <DaMi3n> only a ntfs partition
[01:32] <aeruder> the windows solution
[01:32] <aeruder> not windows
[01:32] <aeruder> he's suggesting a reboot will fix it
[01:32] <zorba64> DaMi3n: poor attempt at humour...just the rebooting bit
[01:32] <DaMi3n> no i  mean why do i need to use windows solutions
[01:32] <aeruder> and yes, if you change partitions around on a disk that is in use, the kernel can't flush the tables correctly
[01:32] <aeruder> reboot
[01:32] <DaMi3n> okay
[01:32] <aeruder> DaMi3n: it was humor, just reboot
[01:32] <aeruder> heh
[01:33] <prawcess> Dami3n: yeah I think i boo-booed something
[01:33] <prawcess> It took away the gui at some point and i was at the terminal with the 'you have new mail" message and a login prompt lol
[01:33] <linner> greetings strange ones :)
[01:34] <davro>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hash
[01:34] <prawcess> ubunto tell prawcess about graphics
[01:34] <unvs> so how many of you are in breezy preview now? :D
[01:34] <prawcess> 
[01:34] <Seveas> davro, /msg nickserv set password a_new_password_here
[01:34] <zorba64> DaMi3n: that error from cfdisk means none of the partitions are marked as bootable. Thats a windows requirement. cfdisk is just trying to be helpful
[01:34] <unvs> linner: like it?
[01:34] <aeruder> i did the dreadful apt-get dist-upgrade 3-4 weeks ago
[01:34] <aeruder> it wasn't perty
[01:34] <linner> does anyone know when the final version will be coming out?
[01:34] <aeruder> ;)
[01:34] <Seveas> davro, /msg nickserv set password a_new_password_here
[01:34] <linner> unvs, Oh yeah!
[01:34] <aeruder> things are getting better tho
[01:34] <aeruder> hehe
[01:35] <unvs> linner: did you upgrade or install fresh?
[01:35] <prawcess> ubotu tell prawcess about graphics
[01:35] <cute_bettong> ok this is driveing me nuts can anyone help me figure out why i can't seem to play games in breezy?
[01:35] <zorba64> unvs: i am...kubuntu
[01:35] <zorba64> unvs: fresh
[01:35] <linner> unvs, I've been on it for a whopping 4 days but adore it... I'm wiping all my Windoze machines and putting Ubuntu on them.
[01:35] <prawcess> ubotu tell prawcess about intel
[01:35] <linner> unvs, install fresh
[01:35] <prawcess> ubotu tell prawcess about intel graphics
[01:35] <unvs> linner: nice :D
[01:35] <prawcess> grrr
[01:35] <unvs> did anyone update? did it work ok?
[01:35] <aeruder> cute_bettong: wow, that was such a stimulating description of the problem, maybe you should go into it a bit more if you really want help ;)
[01:35] <prawcess> ubotu tell prawcess about self termination
[01:36] <linner> unvs, everyone in this forum has been EXTREMELY helpful in getting me the answers I need
[01:36] <aeruder> unvs: i upgraded to breezy
[01:36] <unvs> this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies
[01:36] <prawcess> man i cant believe there isnt some linux drivers for intel integrated graphics....
[01:36] <davro> Seveas: cheers ;)
[01:36] <Seveas> !love
[01:36] <ubotu> Love is life
[01:36] <cute_bettong> ^_^
[01:36] <unvs> :D
[01:36] <zorba64> unvs: pass the joint man.....
[01:36] <prawcess> unvs oh yeah?
[01:36] <unvs> aeruder: worked ok?
[01:36] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, i just did: "tar -xzf rt2400-1.2.2-b3.tag.gz" to get a file, why does: "tar -xzf rt2400-1.2.2-b3.tag.gz" return the error: "tar: rt2400-1.2.2-b3.tag.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory"
[01:36] <linner> unvs, yeah, you're right dude
[01:36] <cute_bettong> ok i like the new breezy but theres just one thing ticking me off >.<
[01:36] <Seveas> ubotu no, love is <reply> <unvs> this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies
[01:36] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:36] <prawcess> can you tell me how to get a resolution above 640X480?
[01:37] <Seveas> ubotu, tell prawcess about resolution
[01:37] <aru> Seveas: nice :)
[01:37] <aeruder> unvs: if you enjoy some dpkg --force action to get around dep problems and stuff, nope no problem ;)
[01:37] <zorba64> Lunar_Lamp: you need to gunzip
[01:37] <nexus-> Lunar_Lamp,  rt2400-1.2.2-b3.tag.gz or rt2400-1.2.2-b3.tar.gz?
[01:37] <gorilla> !love
 this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies
[01:37] <cevizoglu> !resolution
[01:37] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:37] <linner> hehehehe
[01:37] <cevizoglu> !doh
[01:37] <ubotu> No idea, cevizoglu
[01:37] <unvs> aeruder: hah yeah that sounds like a nice plan for the evening.
[01:37] <unvs> :P
[01:37] <aeruder> unvs: i don't know how it is now, but 3 weeks ago i wouldn't have recommended it to anyone who wasn't very comfortable with getting dirty with dpkg command ;)
[01:37] <cevizoglu> heehee
[01:37] <cute_bettong> why won't breezy play any games?
[01:37] <prawcess> Seveas is my guardian hacker
[01:37] <Lunar_Lamp> nexus-,  - i spotted it just before you - 5mins of staring at the screen due to a typo :-(
[01:37] <aeruder> cute_bettong: wow, that was such a stimulating description of the problem, maybe you should go into it a bit more if you really want help ;)
[01:37] <cute_bettong> this is really odd
[01:38] <nexus-> Lunar_Lamp, poor dude :)
[01:38] <aeruder> cute_bettong: seriously, "won't play games" is so completely not helpful
[01:38] <linner> ubotu, tell linner about sound cards
[01:38] <cevizoglu> ubotu, tell cevizoglu about resolution
[01:38] <prawcess> ok back in a sec, its impossible at 640 to read the page and this at the same time ;)
[01:38] <unvs> aeruder: think i'll go for the clean install then, even though the installer always seem to want to wipe out my /home partition
[01:38] <cevizoglu> huh?
[01:38] <aeruder> unvs: you can try it *shrug*
[01:38] <cevizoglu> oh, I see
[01:38] <aeruder> things might be broke tho
[01:38] <aeruder> might as well give it a try, may work fine now ;)
[01:39] <gorilla> prawcess, get yourself a coffee :-)
[01:39] <aeruder> (if you're planning on reinstalling anyway)
[01:39] <unvs> true, i've got backups :)
[01:39] <Flannel> unvs, you can always mount and not format your home partition, provided it's not corrupted
[01:39] <unvs> Flannel: true
[01:39] <OCA|> Hmm, I see on the wiki a guide for installing to an external firewire drive, are there any guides for installing to external usb2? At best, I can get grub to start booting from the drive, but then I immediately get a kernel panic =/
[01:39] <cvt> http://tinyurl.com/7xy7w  what do you think about that?
[01:39] <cute_bettong> aeruder:  ok sorry steam seems to run fine with point to play and cedega BUT when it finishes downloading the map and goes to connect into the server it just hangs no errors nothing i have to reboot x inorder to get outta it and i know it works cause i played steam yesterday and it ran fine under hoary can you help?
[01:40] <kurt> quick question about breezy: where is the run application? Has it been taken out or is there an application I can grab from the repos?
[01:40] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: it worked fine doing what?
[01:40] <linner> :)
[01:40] <lightbringer_> quick gdesklets question
[01:40] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: did you download any maps yesterday?
[01:40] <cute_bettong> yes
[01:40] <linner> ubotu, tell linner about sound fixing
[01:40] <cute_bettong> i have used steam in hoary with no problems at all
[01:40] <cute_bettong> ever
[01:41] <lightbringer_> /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:90: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead
[01:41] <lightbringer_>   self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning)
[01:41] <linner> crap
[01:41] <aeruder> cute_bettong: see how much help you're getting now that you typed a less cruddy description ;)
[01:41] <lightbringer_> what is linux trying to tell me?
[01:41] <linner> does anyone have this problem:  sound is fine within Ubuntu but as soon as I seek sound out on the web it's spotty at best
[01:41] <lightbringer_> anyone?
[01:41] <cute_bettong> but i just installed breezy today and now nothing it will download the map and goto log into the server to play and just hang
[01:41] <cute_bettong> and it's driving me nuts
[01:41] <cute_bettong> i have to get my counter strike fix
[01:42] <cute_bettong> O_o
[01:42] <cevizoglu> sounds like a pretty lame technical problem to me  :(
[01:42] <zorba64> cute_bettong: might have to get it in hoary
[01:42] <linner> hmmm... or... does anyone know where I can get information about sound problems?
[01:42] <cute_bettong> shitty
[01:42] <cute_bettong> i like the new boot screen breezy has and the screensavers are better than before
[01:42] <cevizoglu> what is the url for cedega btw?
[01:43] <BlueEagle> That's why I want to upgrade... To get better screensavers...
[01:43] <BlueEagle> cevizoglu: transgaming.org
[01:43] <cute_bettong> i really wanna figure out whats goin on so i can take a shot at breaking it..err i mean fixing it
[01:43] <cevizoglu> that sounds pretty sweet  :)
[01:43] <linner> does anyone know when the final release of breezy will be out?
[01:43] <zorba64> linner: mid oct i think
[01:43] <BlueEagle> linner: Read the topic yet?
[01:43] <koneng> what's the command line to disconnect my ipod (so it says it's safe to unplug it)? I found it a while ago and it worked and i can't find it anymore. I will save the line this time:)
[01:43] <gorilla> linner, october at the earliest.
[01:43] <linner> zorba64, thanks
[01:43] <linner> gorilla, oh okay... that's pretty soon
[01:44] <BlueEagle> 01:43 -!- Topic for #Ubuntu: Happy software freedom day to all !! | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Breezy preview is out (final release Oct. 13): http://tinyurl.com/73wry | Channel logs:...
[01:44] <linner> BlueEagle, thanks :-/
[01:44] <lightbringer_> anyone here have any gdesklets experience to help troubleshoot a problem
[01:44] <cute_bettong> so you think that cedega and point to play might be broken in breezy?
[01:44] <vern401> nope I cant get it to install the files needed for my wireless card
[01:44] <BlueEagle> linner: I really shouldn't have had to do that you know. :p
[01:44] <BlueEagle> hehe
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> cute_bettong: hm... that might be why
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[01:44] <linner> BlueEagle, and I wish you wouldn't...
[01:44] <linner> :p
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> I have cedega here, worked in hoary, upgraded to breezy, doesn't work
[01:45] <Viziri> I've installed wine but when I type wine in the terminal it tell me unable to find xmessage program (which i can't find in synoptic)
[01:45] <cute_bettong> is there a way to figure out whats goin on or something like error logs?
[01:45] <BlueEagle> hrdwrbob: Any particular reason for it not working?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> (it runs, just .. so slowly it's not worth it
[01:45] <vern401> now I have a locked folder on my desktop
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> with some graphical problems
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> BlueEagle: there doesn't seem to be
[01:45] <cute_bettong> i'm still learning where stuff is on the hard drive and how linux orginizes it files and folders
[01:46] <lightbringer_> its all in /
[01:46] <linner> would it be considered a bug if your sound is fine within Breezy but on the internet it's spotty at best?
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> linner: 'on the internet'?
[01:46] <BlueEagle> hrdwrbob: Well, that does sound like a bottleneck in the graphics system. Made sure your drivers are all healthy and such?
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> BlueEagle: yes
[01:46] <zorba64> linner: in the browser maybe
[01:46] <linner> HrdwrBoB, yes... aka shockwave files, MP3's... getting podcasts
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> linner: that's still "within breezy"
[01:47] <lambic> sorry I'm new on linux but why can't I open rpm files?
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> linner: what soundcard
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: rpm files are for redhat
[01:47] <linner> HrdwrBoB, I wish I could tell you.
[01:47] <linner> Let me see if I can find out in the device manager
[01:47] <hop> hi, can somebody help me with booting on a powermac g5?
[01:47] <linner> HrdwrBoB, the computer was given to me
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> linner: ah ok
[01:47] <BlueEagle> lambic: .rpm files are for redhat/fedora, mandriva and friends. :)
[01:47] <cevizoglu> lambic: alien?
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> linner: sometimes cheaper soundcards are not as good (I know, amazing)
[01:48] <cevizoglu> !alien
[01:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:48] <lambic> I have ubuntu so it on't work I suppose
[01:48] <zorba64> lambic: use alien to convert to a deb
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> zorba64: not yet
[01:48] <linner> HrdwrBoB, it says it's a audiopci-97
[01:48] <BlueEagle> hop: Not unless you tell us why the G5 isn't booting.
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> step 1) ask him what he's installing
[01:48] <linner> i suppose that means it's built into the motherboard
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: what are you installing
[01:48] <hop> BlueEagle: right, now meta-questions ;)
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> linner: correct
[01:48] <lightbringer_> is there any reason that these platforms cant share file types?
[01:49] <zorba64> lambic: if you are a newbie...prob a good idea not to
[01:49] <hop> BlueEagle: i installed ubuntu on a second internal hdd
[01:49] <lambic> I'm trying to install mplayer
[01:49] <linner> so is there a way to tell ubuntu to ignore it on boot up and install a creative sound card?
[01:49] <lightbringer_> seems a waste of peoples efforts
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> linner: in that case it should work for the most part, but if you have high CPU usage or disk usage or bus usage it may skip or whtever
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> lightbringer_: it's a long, long story
[01:49] <hop> BlueEagle: holding alt at the chime, chosing the tux, get the yaboot screen, press l, back to the yaboot-screen
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> lightbringer_: yes
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> er linner yes
[01:49] <lightbringer_> wouldnt be linux if it wasnt :)
[01:49] <linner> hmmm... i'm not sure why i'd have high cpu usage/disk or bus ... i'm usually only using it for the internet
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> linner: that would be my reocmmendation
[01:50] <lambic> anyway I can't play any mpg with totem and xoom or something, what should I do?
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> you can disable the sound card in the bios
[01:50] <linner> HrdwrBoB, ok good... how do I do that?
[01:50] <linner> :)
[01:50] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, i think i have my wireless card set up - i just need in to type in the wireless key, now this is 13 hex digit pairs - how do i enter in it in the WEP key box? Do i just type it as one long string, or do i separate them? If so, with what do i separate them?
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> then it won't see the sound card at al
[01:50] <BlueEagle> hop: Well, it would seem to me that it's unable to find the kernel then. :)
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> Lunar_Lamp: one long string
[01:50] <Lunar_Lamp> HrdwrBoB, thanks
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> linner: if you can't disable it in the bios, you can add the module to the blacklist
[01:51] <linner> HrdwrBoB, ok... I see what you mean.... but will the bios detect 2 if I install the creative?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> hop: Not that I'm at all familiar with the G5s I would think the manual for the bootloader would be a good place to go.
[01:51] <hop> BlueEagle: i don't see what i could possibly have done wrong, but anyway, how do i fix it?
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> linner: no
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> linner: because you've disable the onboard soundcard at the hardware level
[01:51] <lambic> well, no one knows?
[01:51] <linner> HrdwrBoB, you're speaking greek to me... go easy with me I'm 4 days new to Linux
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> linner: (assuming that's possible, which is highly likely)
[01:51] <linner> HrdwrBoB, ok....
[01:51] <linner> hmmm
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> linner: yeah, we dont' need to go into that if you can disable it in hardware
[01:51] <BlueEagle> hop: Now, the G5 would that be a PPC64?
[01:52] <linner> ok
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: apt-get install totem-xine
[01:52] <hop> BlueEagle: the installer said -power4
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: though it should work
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: what is the error you are getting
[01:52] <Gobbla> I'm bored, give me some suggestions of some good games to play would you?
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> tell lambic about restrictedformats
[01:52] <hop> BlueEagle: installer went fine all the way
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> !tell lambic about restrictedformats
[01:52] <lambic> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[01:52] <hop> BlueEagle: from cd
[01:52] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: for cedega or ubuntu?
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> lambic: see that url
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: enemy territory
[01:52] <Gobbla> ubuntu
[01:53] <shawnz> sigh
[01:53] <hop> BlueEagle: i'm quite capable with linux, just not on the ppc...
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: jnethack
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: it's a free first person shooter online game
[01:53] <shawnz> xinit gets x started, but only xterm works from there
[01:53] <shawnz> :(
[01:53] <Gobbla> ok, thanks
[01:53] <Gobbla> njethack, whats that?
[01:53] <lambic> ok
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: why are you using xini
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: klotcku
[01:53] <Gobbla> *jnet
[01:53] <hop> BlueEagle: can i use yaboot from osx to try to fix this?
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> xinit
[01:53] <linner> hmmm.... hrdwrbob.... so my next step would be what?  keep in mind... it's only spotty with internet applications
[01:53] <Gobbla> cevizoglu: that is?
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: klotski I mean
[01:53] <Gobbla> cevizoglu: that is?
[01:53] <shawnz> agh
[01:53] <Gobbla> :=)
[01:53] <shawnz> whoever asked me, the colors are set to whitebg and i cant see your name
[01:54] <shawnz> :/
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> linner:shut down, put in the creative card, disable it in the bios if you can if not come back and we'll fix it
[01:54] <war-totem> has anyone ever come across a beginner friendly guide to setting up a mail/spool with mutt?
[01:54] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: they're in synaptic with descriptions
[01:54] <prawcess> ok peoples i've made some adjustments  i gotta do a ctrl alt backspace thingy back in a momento
[01:54] <Gobbla> not enemy territory
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> war-totem: not particularly :)
[01:54] <shawnz> ah
[01:54] <Gobbla> :/
[01:54] <shawnz> there we go
[01:54] <war-totem> heh
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: what on earth are you doing
[01:54] <BlueEagle> hop: Now, you've got /dev/hdb1 as Apple_partition_map, /dev/hdb2 as Apple_Bootstrap and you might need 800k of Type 0x41 for PReP Boot. Now, I do not know if this is generic or distro spesific (refering to gentoos most excellent handbook) but have you got all that?
[01:54] <prawcess> (my default HorizRefresh and Vert etc were bad
[01:54] <prawcess> )
[01:54] <prawcess> lol
[01:54] <shawnz> HrdwrBoB: x broke.
[01:54] <linner> HrdwrBoB, okey dokey - thank you so much!!!
[01:54] <shawnz> cant do startx or gdm
[01:55] <linner> bye ya'll
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: it broke or you broke it?
[01:55] <shawnz> i broke it of courseeee
[01:55] <shawnz> :p
[01:55] <war-totem> hrdwrbob mind a pm?
[01:55] <hop> BlueEagle: whoa, slow there :)
[01:55] <lundner> wow there are many people online here
[01:55] <shawnz> I noticed my /usr/share/fonts directory went missing
[01:55] <hop> BlueEagle: lemme check
[01:55] <Gobbla> klotski and enemy territory... none of them in synaptic cevizoglu HrdwrBoB
[01:55] <shawnz> im guessing thats the problem
[01:55] <shawnz> :/
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:55] <shawnz> x 'works'
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: enemy territory isn't in synaptic no
[01:55] <Gobbla> jnethack isnt my kind of game..
[01:55] <Gobbla> HrdwrBoB: why not?
[01:55] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: klotski should already be in your games folder, I think
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: if you want one in synaptic, try armagetron
[01:56] <shawnz> but startx starts gnome.
[01:56] <shawnz> and gnome doesnt want to finish loading
[01:56] <shawnz> it just sits there
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: it's a proprietry game, free, but proprietry
[01:56] <shawnz> same with every other app execpt xterm
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: rebooted?
[01:56] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: battle for wesnoth
[01:56] <shawnz> several times
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: what did you so
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> .
[01:56] <shawnz> okay
[01:56] <Gobbla> HrdwrBoB: umm okay..
[01:56] <shawnz> i was copying a font to /usr/share/fonts
[01:56] <shawnz> then nautilus started acting funny
[01:57] <shawnz> like, not seeing it copied there or lagging
[01:57] <cvt> i can't get gtypist to load
[01:57] <shawnz> so i just deleted it and copied again
[01:57] <shawnz> and closed nautilus.
[01:57] <Gobbla> you cant add some site to get it either HrdwrBoB?
[01:57] <recyclebin> do you use xorg?
[01:57] <shawnz> but then, no other applications would open
[01:57] <cvt> is there a typing tutor that will work?
[01:57] <shawnz> and it started lagging to death
[01:57] <shawnz> yes recyclebin
[01:57] <recyclebin> hehe
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: it's not packaged for ubuntu, you can use the installer that comes with it
[01:57] <shawnz> my friend said it was a socket problem or something
[01:57] <shawnz> so i rebooted
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: google for enemey territory linux download
[01:57] <shawnz> and suddently x hangs when starting gdm or gnome.
[01:57] <Gobbla> okay
[01:57] <shawnz> and about everything else.
[01:58] <shawnz> back in tty1 using irssi now.
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: hrm
[01:58] <hop> BlueEagle: confusing... it's the "A" drive, but osx has it as disk0...
[01:58] <shawnz> i tried reinstalling xfonts-*
[01:58] <shawnz> still gets a bunch of errors
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: do you have another ubuntu system handy?
[01:58] <shawnz> i have a breezy livecd iso, but nothing to burn it with
[01:58] <hop> BlueEagle: 4 partitions: partition map, bootstrap, /, swap
[01:58] <shawnz> unless you know some sort of cd burner that works in a term
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> hop: it's not the A drive really, that's just how DOS er windows names it
[01:59] <BlueEagle> hop: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap2 _might_ be helpful when designing a partition scheme.
[01:59] <cevizoglu> shawnz: you don't have any linux to burn it with?  order a cd then
[01:59] <shawnz> I have.
[01:59] <BlueEagle> hop: Well, that looks about right.
[01:59] <shawnz> about a month ago
[01:59] <shawnz> :p
[01:59] <Alos> hi everyone, any one now how fix screen resolution??
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[01:59] <hop> HrdwrBoB: windows, right...
[01:59] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:59] <shawnz> okay
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> hop: sorry my bad
[01:59] <shawnz> assuming i DID have a livecd
[01:59] <hop> HrdwrBoB: on an apple power mac g5
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> still
[01:59] <shawnz> what would you get me to do with it?
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> hop: drive names are arbirtrary
[01:59] <prawcess> It worked!!!! 1280X1024 at 85hz BAAAAAY-BY!!!
[01:59] <hop> BlueEagle: don't know anything about that prep %)
[01:59] <prawcess> That resolution how to did it for me..
[02:00] <Alos> ok thanks
[02:00] <cevizoglu> shawnz: you don't have a cd burner?
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> shawnz: make sure all the binary files are the same
[02:00] <shawnz> i have a burner
[02:00] <hop> HrdwrBoB: no, they are not. they are printed on the retainer of the drive
[02:00] <shawnz> just not a progrqam
[02:00] <Gobbla> HrdwrBoB: do i need rtcw to play it?
[02:00] <shawnz> to burn.
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: no
[02:00] <prawcess> the part where you enter in the refresh rate for the monitor.. duh-durr durr if i woulda known it was in that file / location i coulda been set.
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> Gobbla: it's an independant game using the same engine
[02:00] <Gobbla> okay
[02:00] <prawcess> I need to learn some stuff about some things.
[02:01] <hop> HrdwrBoB: i had a typo anyway.. it's the B that's disk0
[02:01] <war-totem> prawcess: truer words have never been spoken
[02:01] <hop> HrdwrBoB: but you are right, it doesn't matter, it just is confusing
[02:01] <shawnz> HrdwrBoB: ah, well my iso is breezy anyway and this is hoary
[02:01] <shawnz> so thats a nono
[02:01] <BlueEagle> hop: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=1&chap=4#mac-fdisk
[02:01] <prawcess> Lol.. yeah i got a whole solaris class under my belt. I've been doing it since i was 16 ('96) but never used unix/linux.
[02:02] <prawcess> doing IT.. not "it" as in solaris.
[02:02] <BlueEagle> hop: Read trough that section 4.c and see if it applies. If it doesn't the I am sorry for waisting your time. :)
[02:02] <shawnz> solaris >.<
[02:02] <prawcess> yeah as you can see i do not run solaris. I really like ubuntu
[02:02] <hop> BlueEagle: help much appriciated, don't apologize!
[02:02] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: are you still there?
[02:02] <war-totem> arent the principles similar though prawcess?
[02:02] <prawcess> yes sir.  I only took hold on let me grab the book
[02:03] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: the latest cedega update might fix your troubles, not sure
[02:03] <prawcess> Unix essentials featuring the solaris 9 operating environment
[02:03] <shawnz> lol
[02:03] <war-totem> ah
[02:03] <prawcess> and the shell programming (scripting)
[02:03] <war-totem> im impressed with ubuntu
[02:03] <prawcess> i leanred absolutely nothing about installing software (or the OS for that matter) or anything to do with admin. just commands etc.
[02:03] <war-totem> much nicer than fedora
[02:04] <cvt> does anyone know a specific page that will show me how to install macromedia flashplayer 7?
[02:04] <prawcess> I guess I just need to learn by doing.  Yeah fedora core 4 wouldnt even install. it kept erroring out.
[02:04] <shawnz> ubuntuguide.org cvt.
[02:04] <cvt> isn't that a little broad?
[02:04] <war-totem> hehe
[02:04] <shawnz> cvt, its all on one page.
[02:04] <Seveas> !flash
[02:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <shawnz> just search for flash
[02:04] <war-totem> your better off never using fc4
[02:04] <shawnz> or whatever
[02:04] <war-totem> absolute crap, drove me away
[02:04] <OCA|> Restore Grub wiki instructions did not work. I have managed to get to the point whre the kernel panics saying it attempted to kill init. The errors before it are "pivot_root: no such file or directory" and "/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file". Anyone have any ideas before I call it a night?
[02:05] <prawcess> lol yeah totem thats what i keep hearing
[02:05] <shawnz> lol
[02:05] <shawnz> attempted to kill init?
[02:05] <prawcess> some guy was like "god broke your install and led you to ubuntu"
[02:05] <Seveas> OCA|, your initrd is flaky
[02:05] <shawnz> smart kernel you have there
[02:05] <Seveas> did you roll your own kernel?
[02:05] <war-totem> hahaha
[02:05] <OCA|> Seveas: Nope. Waaayyyy too newbish for that.
[02:05] <Ali`G> hey all does anyone know about domain controllers in samba i need some help
[02:05] <war-totem> i was stubborn, kept on trying to patch fc
[02:05] <OCA|> Seveas: The only "special" thing I'm doing is booting from an external USB2 disk.
[02:05] <war-totem> live and learn
[02:05] <rainmaker> whats the ubuntu breezy repositorie?
[02:06] <prawcess> but i gotta tell you, i am really impressed with the (lin)unix community.  Ever tried asking for help in an irc channel that was about a windows based thing?
[02:06] <Seveas> OCA|, that's it
[02:06] <Ali`G> i pasted all of this into my smb.conf
[02:06] <Ali`G> http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#fast-engoffice-shares
[02:06] <Seveas> that's not supported yet
[02:06] <war-totem> once i think
[02:06] <prawcess> lol
[02:06] <BlueEagle> hop: ...it seems that the yaboot partition is missed and thus you won't be able to boot Linux using the "option key method"
[02:06] <Seveas> you need to create your own intrd i think
[02:06] <BlueEagle> hop: from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:06] <lundner> does anybody have the new ubuntu beta?!
[02:06] <war-totem> without the userbased community, linux would be a dream for a lot of people
[02:06] <Seveas> lundner, yes
[02:06] <Ali`G> i copied everything off of http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#fast-engoffice-shares that whats the username and password to connect to the domain?
[02:06] <hop> BlueEagle: but i get the yaboot prompt...
[02:06] <war-totem> brb
[02:07] <prawcess> seriously though remember how the "internet" was before netscape came out with gui (basically letting anyone use it?)
[02:07] <BlueEagle> hop: What this sais is that holding the option key when booting is not "the right way"(tm) to start yaboot afaik.
[02:07] <OCA|> Seveas: Hmm. That sounds a bit over my head. I can live without ubuntu on an external drive for now.
[02:07] <hop> BlueEagle: i see
[02:07] <hop> BlueEagle: i'm playing with bless at the moment
[02:07] <hop> BlueEagle: brb
[02:07] <prawcess> and then all the sheep flocked to aol and gave us wonderful words like h4xor e733t etc?
[02:07] <zorba64> lundner: yep
[02:07] <Seveas> prawcess, the september that never ended...
[02:07] <OCA|> Seveas: Do you know if there is work being done to make something like this work?
[02:07] <rainmaker> whats the ubuntu breezy repositorie?
[02:08] <prawcess> I doubt linux will ever get ruined like that, cuz its not for "kids" so to speak.
[02:08] <Seveas> OCA|, you need to add the usb modules etc. to your initrd
[02:08] <shawnz> prawcess: i wish i were there.
[02:08] <prawcess> you know the month? crazy
[02:08] <Viziri> I keep getting xmessage not found error with wine. Is xmessage an app? I can't find it in synoptic - anyone know repos?
[02:08] <shawnz> im sick of all these aol newbs learning leetspeak over aim and CS.
[02:08] <shawnz> :(
[02:08] <shawnz> too bad im only 13, i could have been there when it begam
[02:08] <shawnz> m=n
[02:08] <Seveas> http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html
[02:09] <prawcess> do any of you have any good sites/newsgroups etc i could write down? I'm in sponge mode baby I want to know the linux environ like I do windows within a year.
[02:09] <unvs> hmm i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, and then tried to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it failed saying it's not available. is this correct?
[02:09] <shawnz> no
[02:09] <unvs> (breezy)
[02:09] <shawnz> oh
[02:09] <shawnz> breezy
[02:09] <Seveas> the internet originated in the late 70's shawnz ;)
[02:09] <prawcess> and i make a living supporting windoze (shame)
[02:09] <shawnz> Seveas: yeah
[02:09] <shawnz> i know all about it
[02:09] <shawnz> i just wish i were there
[02:09] <Seveas> hehe
[02:09] <prawcess> i thoguht it was the '50's-'60-s with the ARPnet?
[02:10] <shawnz> that wasnt 'internet'
[02:10] <shawnz> the arpanet was just like a dc link
[02:10] <ilpavox> having a problem where the wireless connection gets dropped every once in a while.  all the solutions i have found involve unloading and reloading the module (ipw2200) then running /etc/init.d/networking restart... this does not work.  what works is using the gnome networking thingy and clicking the proper interface and closing it! what is it doing?
[02:10] <OCA|> Seveas: Is there a good howto on how to do that, or should I throw in the towel for now? =)
[02:10] <shawnz> it wasnt as structured as internet
[02:10] <Seveas> true
[02:10] <cute_bettong> i wounder if i should switch back to hoary
[02:10] <prawcess> good point
[02:10] <Viziri> where can i get xmessage?
[02:10] <Seveas> btw, it's DARPAnet ;(
[02:10] <prawcess> every week someone tells me that the "internet isnt on their computer anymore"...
[02:10] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: did you download the cedega update?
[02:10] <zorba64> cute_bettong: for your steam...u might have to
[02:10] <rainmaker> is there a more uptodate repo than backports? and faster...
[02:10] <prawcess> DARPnet? now thats something i;ve never heard before.
[02:10] <shawnz> indeed.
[02:10] <Seveas> OCA|, search the wiki/forums, you're not the first one :)
[02:11] <Mez> rainmaker, more up to date?
[02:11] <shawnz> prawcess: you're missing an a :p
[02:11] <Seveas> prawcess, DARPA
[02:11] <BlueEagle> hop: Well, it appears to be a miss made when setting up yaboot as it doesn't seem to have been installed to the right disk or the kernel is looked for on the wrong disk. Not sure how to fix it sorry. (But I did learn a little about how linux on macs work if that's any consolation ;D )
[02:11] <Mez> rainmaker, try official backports
[02:11] <cute_bettong> whoa theres an update to cedega?
[02:11] <Mez> !tell rainmaker about backports
[02:11] <cute_bettong> i thought i had the most current version
[02:11] <prawcess> I better look up some articles on how to harden up my install
[02:11] <shawnz> cedega... ew...
[02:11] <cute_bettong> 4.4.1-1
[02:11] <shawnz> wine is better than cedega, but it lacks apis
[02:11] <cute_bettong> cedega is better than wine
[02:12] <prawcess> my wife and I each have a pc running xp sp-2 on an l shaped desk, this is in the middle of them. and life was good.
[02:12] <shawnz> no.
[02:12] <cevizoglu> cute_bettong: ah,  looks like you did
[02:12] <cute_bettong> to each his own ^_^
[02:12] <unvs> the people that apg-get dist-upgrade 'd into breezy, did you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:12] <shawnz> wine is much better than cedega, but cedega has more apis.
[02:12] <Jerich> is there any good PIM software available to linux ?
[02:12] <unvs> s/apg-get/apt-get
[02:12] <shawnz> like dx
[02:12] <cute_bettong> thats the beutiy of Linux ^_^
[02:12] <lundner> i guess cedega is better as well! on most new games it works better
[02:12] <hop> BlueEagle: i guess the problem is that i bought another disk... should've known ;)
[02:12] <shawnz> of course lundner
[02:12] <cute_bettong> oh yea for counter strike it's awsome
[02:12] <prawcess> I'd learn a bunch of stuff just lurking in here I gather..
[02:12] <shawnz> but for normal programs.
[02:12] <shawnz> it sucks.
[02:12] <shawnz> it REAKS
[02:12] <shawnz> because its general apis suck
[02:12] <HrdwrBoB> prawcess: up unto  a point
[02:12] <war-totem> is half life 2 linux friendly?
[02:13] <Ali`G> i copied everything off of http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#fast-engoffice-shares that whats the username and password to connect to the domain?
[02:13] <shawnz> but its the (only?) one with directx apis
[02:13] <Seveas> shawnz, language...
[02:13] <lundner> what normal programs do you mean @shawnz?
[02:13] <shawnz> sorry Seveas.
[02:13] <Seveas> Ali`G: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:13] <shawnz> lundner: basic programs
[02:13] <shawnz> non-games
[02:13] <prawcess> I'd probably have to reinstall ubuntu if i tried playing a game with it
[02:13] <lundner> not really @war-totem i had it get worked but it was very slow
[02:13] <war-totem> ah
[02:13] <war-totem> i thought they had promised linux support out the box
[02:14] <war-totem> before it came out
[02:14] <war-totem> maybe that got hacked too ;)
[02:14] <cute_bettong> oh and ubuntu breezy gives to errors during boot up i want to know if these are normal : a time server error as in it can't connect or resolve a name and another error that says there is a name resolution problem
[02:14] <lundner> of course you are right @shawnz but what basic windowsprograms do you need under linux?
[02:14] <shawnz> cute_bettong: its breezy, all errors are normal.
[02:14] <cute_bettong> kk
[02:14] <shawnz> uh lundner
[02:14] <shawnz> its not like games are the only thing you ever need...
[02:15] <shawnz> try running an installshield installer, its dodgy
[02:15] <shawnz> and an nsis one too
[02:15] <ilpavox> anyone?
[02:15] <Seveas> kobdl and supertux :)
[02:15] <Seveas> kobodl*
[02:15] <war-totem> no shawnz, but games are a big reason ppl have pc's in the first place
[02:15] <lundner> yeah but for most things there are good pendants for linux @ shawnz
[02:15] <Mez> cute_bettong, those are normally because your network is being brought up after you've booted up fiully... probably via hotplug or something
[02:15] <prawcess> shawnz: i refuse to stop living vicariously through my mmporg... hahah
[02:15] <hop> BlueEagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=b242ccaa95ac60c91c328b108e9ff867&t=38864
[02:15] <cute_bettong> i switched to linux after using windows for like ever and i don't regret it one bit it's far better in my opinion than windows could ever hope to be
[02:15] <flugh> seveas, what's a good first-person-shooter? get me running day of defeat :)
[02:15] <Viziri> could someone do us a favour and type "locate xmessage" in a terminal and paste response? (shouldn't be more than 2-3 short lines)
[02:15] <shawnz> war-totem: not for linux users usually.
[02:15] <Seveas> ilpavox, ?
[02:15] <war-totem> its the one reason i have dual boot
[02:15] <prawcess> flugh: you mean for linux or anyone?
[02:15] <war-totem> i tried going without games
[02:15] <Seveas> flugh, that's not my kind of game
[02:16] <war-totem> a dark period i tell you
[02:16] <ilpavox> seveas: asked a question a couple min ago want me to repeat it?
[02:16] <Mez> cute_bettong, windows has it's good points (games support) but, on the whole I agree with you
[02:16] <flugh> prawcess: linux. it's the only reason i reboot anymore
[02:16] <Seveas> ilpavox, please do
[02:16] <ilpavox> having a problem where the wireless connection gets dropped every once in a while.  all the solutions i have found involve unloading and reloading the module (ipw2200) then running /etc/init.d/networking restart... this does not work.  what works is using the gnome networking thingy and clicking the proper interface and closing it! what is it doing?
[02:16] <flugh> BOOM! HEADSHOT! :)
[02:16] <shawnz> Viziri: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmessage.
[02:16] <shawnz> lol flugh
[02:16] <lundner> maybe you should buy a trashy ( :-P ) pc for linux and your good pc for games...that is what i propably will do
[02:16] <shawnz> 'I even heard theres no respawn points in rl!'
[02:16] <prawcess> flughey: i currently play lots of CoD (i am refreshing the server on the win box as we speak)
[02:16] <Viziri> hmm - i get nothing
[02:16] <cute_bettong> you know i have played every game i own and almost every dos game i have "YAY! for heretic" and windows cannot play dos games anymore
[02:16] <cute_bettong> i see no need for windows
[02:17] <BlueEagle> hop: If you're at all proficient with linux you could boot from a live-CD mount the ubuntu filesystem, alter your yaboot.conf and re-install the bootloader. That would probably fix.
[02:17] <shawnz> 'Knife? Everyone runs faster with a knife!'
[02:17] <Viziri> thanks shawnz
[02:17] <shawnz> :D
[02:17] <Viziri> must hbe a path error
[02:17] <war-totem> cute bettong, one word: dependencies
[02:17] <lundner> maybe you should buy a trashy ( :-P ) pc for linux and your good pc for games...that is what i propably will do @war-totem
[02:17] <prawcess> flugh: i also like HL2, and battlefield 2 (i dont like BF2 so much) and I also like Rome: Total war.
[02:17] <cvt> what do i need to listen to streaming audio?
[02:17] <shawnz> np Viziri
[02:17] <cvt> Music Player is NOT working.
[02:17] <dv_> hello
[02:17] <war-totem> naw i got ubuntu on my laptop and winxp/fc4 on my main
[02:17] <war-totem> works out fine
[02:17] <dv_> I installed the gtk-qt engine
[02:17] <flugh> prawcess: i was on a BF42 team, my box won't run BF2 :(
[02:17] <shawnz> you know
[02:17] <Alos> what kind of memory stick is better on ubuntu???
[02:17] <cvt> http://www.infidelguy.com:8666/  I'm trying to listen to this
[02:17] <dv_> it works fine in KDE
[02:17] <war-totem> i do any serious work on linux
[02:17] <shawnz> i could just boot to cd and do repair
[02:17] <BlueEagle> hop: As the post sais: It works in gentoo, so then just use the gentoo method of installing yaboot but use the ubuntu kernel and filesystem (and files ofcourse)
[02:17] <shawnz> :/
[02:17] <flugh> prawcess: or the HL2 demo
[02:17] <dv_> however, I can't switch it off!
[02:17] <cute_bettong> war-totem: what you mean is that a bad thing?
[02:17] <BlueEagle> hop: Easy as a breez. :)
[02:18] <dv_> now the gtk-qt engine is *always* used,
[02:18] <ilpavox> when i say closing i mean closing the utility pane
[02:18] <nandobain> hello can i have a little help ? i'm new >_<
[02:18] <thellama> is it possible to get a virus
[02:18] <dv_> even when not running KDE, also the gnome theme manager doesnt run
[02:18] <nandobain> please  by pm
[02:18] <shawnz> errrrrrrr
[02:18] <cute_bettong> no
[02:18] <war-totem> dependencies are not user friendly, ie not everyone is willing/able to sort through them just to run everyday progs
[02:18] <shawnz> thellama: of course
[02:18] <shawnz> how is it not
[02:18] <shawnz> :/
[02:18] <hop> BlueEagle: yeah.. only it's past 2 am over here and my brain is starting to go flaky on me ;)
[02:18] <thellama> on linux?
[02:18] <thellama> hmm
[02:18] <shawnz> erm
[02:18] <cute_bettong> if you get a virus using linux then your not doing something right or an idiot
[02:18] <thellama> thought there werent any
[02:18] <shawnz> of course.
[02:18] <prawcess> flugh: the upgrade cycle in relation to software and hardware is way to viscious.
[02:18] <war-totem> until the powers that be get their act together, windows will rule
[02:18] <dv_> anyone has an idea why this happens?
[02:18] <shawnz> thellama: there are plenty
[02:18] <BlueEagle> hop: Oh, I thought that was just regular dandruff, not brainflakes. :p
[02:18] <thellama> okay
[02:18] <thellama> just checking :)
[02:19] <cute_bettong> anyway thats what i've herd
[02:19] <war-totem> ive never had one spyware/malware/virus on linux :)
[02:19] <prawcess> war: the only reason windows rules is the same reason the first GUI based web browser made the internet popular: it caters to the morons.
[02:19] <war-totem> i dont even have to attempt to try
[02:19] <DaMi3n> how do i mount a ext3 partition as /data with read/write access for all users??
[02:19] <dv_> hello?
[02:19] <cute_bettong> i know thats one reason it's better than M$
[02:19] <thellama> right ow aegis is checking my startup disk, any others recommended?
[02:19] <war-totem> never argued that, but im just saying dont expect windows to disappera
[02:19] <Seveas> DaMi3n, mount it and chmod 777 /data
[02:19] <shawnz> prawcess: look out, 'M$'! :p
[02:19] <DaMi3n> Seveas, i wanna put it in fstab
[02:19] <cute_bettong> windows won't dissapear i know that
[02:19] <war-totem> we know linux is the answer, the other 90% dont even know what the question is :D
[02:20] <thellama> anything better than aegis virus checker?
[02:20] <prawcess> I know right? Bill Gates will hire a sniper to go back and time to take out Linus Torvald. News at 10!
[02:20] <Sym|Away> war-totem, true true.
[02:20] <Seveas> DaMi3n, /dev/hd_something /data ext3 defaults 0 0
[02:20] <Gobbla> how do you install .run files?
[02:20] <cute_bettong> besides Roaches windows is the only other living thing that will survive a nukelear bals lol
[02:20] <shawnz> Gobbla.
[02:20] <DaMi3n> k
[02:20] <cute_bettong> blast
[02:20] <shawnz> open a terminal
[02:20] <shawnz> ./filename.run
[02:20] <DaMi3n> Seveas, tx a lot
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> prawcess: that's not the only reason
[02:20] <Gobbla> ok thx
[02:20] <prawcess> HrdwrBoB: what other reasons do you got?
[02:21] <Gobbla> just wondered if you could cause it will take an hour to download
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> prawcess: a large installed userbase, a large TRAINED userbase, continuiong training from a young age through school discounts and heavy OEM programs
[02:21] <cute_bettong> well i'm gonna go redoo my computer so i can play counter strike
[02:21] <prawcess> I was just generalizing cuz i'm a smug ba$tard
[02:21] <cute_bettong> i want my MTV O_o um i mean cs
[02:21] <Gobbla> cant you play cs in linux?
[02:21] <shawnz> ...
[02:21] <shawnz> yes
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> cute_bettong : try the quake3a source code that was released
[02:21] <shawnz> buy/warez/whatever CeDega.
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> gfx is amazing
[02:21] <Gobbla> without wine or something like that
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> compares to new games
[02:21] <shawnz> oh, then dunno.
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> runs like mad
[02:21] <houman_zhu> hi there, i just did an apt-upgrade and it updated my kernel and it broke my wireless card :|
[02:21] <cute_bettong> really nice
[02:21] <zorba64> DaMi3n: you might want to replace "defaults" with "users" so all can read/write
[02:22] <prawcess> HrdwrBoB: I totally agree with you.  I'm a pretty good example.  I work in a mid-level IT position now, and yet I need to come into irc to figure out how to fix my resolution!!!
[02:22] <Gobbla> i think someone told me you could
[02:22] <DaMi3n> zorba64, ok
[02:22] <lsuactiafner> you need to limit frames now else the monitor doesnt keep up
[02:22] <cute_bettong> i was running counter strike at 150fps
[02:22] <Gobbla> atleast 1.5..
[02:22] <war-totem> is cedega open source?
[02:22] <shawnz> no
[02:22] <shawnz> well
[02:22] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Do you know which driver the wireless card uses?
[02:22] <lisi> "mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs'" I get this error at the starting of my 2.6.13 kernel...where is the problem? i can't find any devfs on my make menuconfig.
[02:22] <BlueEagle> war-totem: no.
[02:22] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, what kind of card
[02:22] <lsuactiafner> war-totem : commerical
[02:22] <Gobbla> well, the human eyes can't "see" more than like 80, or so ive heard anyway..
[02:22] <prawcess> A perfect example of windows dumbing down people.  When 3.1 was prevalent I took the win whatever out of hte autoexec.bat and just loaded dos.
[02:22] <lsuactiafner> wine is open
[02:22] <war-totem> is it the answer to linux gaming?
[02:22] <war-totem> is it worth the $
[02:22] <DaMi3n> war-totem, yes
[02:22] <BlueEagle> war-totem: Well, atleast the good stuff isn't.
[02:22] <cute_bettong> yes
[02:22] <prawcess> Now I realize I forgot lots of dos commands...
[02:22] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: ipw2200 which i compiled from source, the weird thing is after installing thre new kernel the driver version reverted back to the original one
[02:22] <lsuactiafner> Gobbla : 24
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> prawcess: heh
[02:22] <DaMi3n> war-totem, try point-to-play and cedega
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> Gobbla : 24-25
[02:23] <Flying-Penguin> hey guys
[02:23] <war-totem> whats the price range?
[02:23] <Gobbla> lsuactiafner: ?
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> Gobbla : but because the image changes so quickly it needs to render fast
[02:23] <houman_zhu> Tartaros: its a centrino intel wireless a/g/p or somethign
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[02:23] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well, you would probably need to compile the driver against the new kernel then.
[02:23] <DaMi3n> war-totem, dunno
[02:23] <sharp> I'm 95% done setting up 32-bit chroot for AMD64 as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 but I get an error at the last step: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:23] <Flying-Penguin> HOLY Crap
[02:23] <war-totem> cool cool
[02:23] <prawcess> Ok guys you'll be seeing me around I'm hooked like heroin.
[02:23] <Gobbla> ok..
[02:23] <war-totem> hehe
[02:23] <Flying-Penguin> well
[02:23] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: thats what i did, but i dont think its suppose to do that :| is this normal?
[02:23] <prawcess> I gotta feed my pregant wife before I am torn into shreds lol
[02:23] <Flying-Penguin> this is my first time unning irc in term
[02:23] <cute_bettong> go into console in counter strike and type the following and see what your frame rate is: net_graph 4, fps_max 150, developer 1
[02:23] <war-totem> take care prawcess
[02:23] <Tartaros> houman_zhu: ??
[02:23] <prawcess> L83R Do0d$!!! HAAHAH
[02:23] <prawcess> thanks for all the help fellas.
[02:23] <prawcess> toodles
[02:24] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: The driver being a kernel module is expected to be buildt against the running kernel as far as I know.
[02:24] <houman_zhu> Tartaros: whats wrong?
[02:24] <Tartaros> why did you say my name? :)
[02:24] <sharp> help a nub in way over his head, anyone?
[02:24] <Flying-Penguin> well what realy matters is my cpu is overheating! and I cant read shit all I see ithose nice lines telling me temperature above theshold running in modulated clock mode...
[02:24] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Which was the old and which is the new kernel?
[02:24] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: so everytime i update my kernel i gotta recompile the driver? hek then i gotta keep all the sources
[02:24] <zorba64> sharp: wassup?
[02:24] <sharp> zorba64, I'm 95% done setting up 32-bit chroot for AMD64 as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 but I get an error at the last step: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:25] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: both 2.6.10-5-686
[02:25] <war-totem> just curious, has anyone got warcraft3/frozen throne to work on ubuntu?
[02:25] <linner> hey guys... can you provide a blonde gal a little help?  I just did pkill -HUP gnome-panel to reload my menu but the software i just installed isn't showing up
[02:25] <DaMi3n> war-totem, yes i have
[02:25] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Then it wasn't an upgrade, was it? o.O
[02:25] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: i guess some security upgrade in the old kernel
[02:25] <DaMi3n> war-totem, it works perfectly
[02:25] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, some of the drivers are well supported - i've been doing well with atheros and prism 2.5
[02:25] <shawnz> linner: does it say it adds itself to the panel?
[02:25] <Flying-Penguin>  who can help?
[02:25] <war-totem> can you point me to documentation to getting it to run?
[02:25] <shawnz> it might not
[02:25] <linner> shawnz, i'm not sure
[02:25] <linner> how would i find out?
[02:25] <shawnz> in which case you need to download Smeg or something
[02:25] <DaMi3n> war-totem, do u have cedega
[02:25] <shawnz> and add it yourself
[02:25] <Flying-Penguin> well... realy I can go back to my gui if someone would tell me what to kill to kill my wine app!!!!
[02:25] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: well it downloaded a new kernel with its headers, so its a new built of the same version with some fixes i supose, i dunno
[02:25] <linner> shawnz, what's Smeg
[02:26] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well, which error do you get when trying to insert the module?
[02:26] <Seveas> !smeg
[02:26] <war-totem> no
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:26] <war-totem> can i download that?
[02:26] <shawnz> Simple Menu Editor for Gnome
[02:26] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, probably changed module configuration
[02:26] <linner> ok thanks
[02:26] <DaMi3n> war-totem, u need cedega to run it.. u will have to buy that
[02:26] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: You did modprobe the module after compiling it, right?
[02:26] <shik45> hey
[02:26] <DaMi3n> war-totem, altern8ly try lookin for it on some p2p clients
[02:26] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: during boot up it says fatal error trying to insert ieee_somenumber_wep
[02:26] <zorba64> sharp: its complainig about missing xorg libraries
[02:26] <Flying-Penguin> HeY anyone there>
[02:26] <DaMi3n> war-totem, u need point-to-play as well
[02:26] <war-totem> ok
[02:26] <war-totem> so if i have those two
[02:26] <sharp> zorba64, where do I get them?
[02:26] <shawnz> DaMi3n: is warez even allowed in this chan? ;p
[02:26] <shawnz> even still, torrents>ptp
[02:27] <tarvid_> Flying-Penguin, it's all a mirage
[02:27] <Flying-Penguin> thought maby you couldn't here me...
[02:27] <nandobain> anyone can giveme a litle help?  i've never used linux before
[02:27] <Flying-Penguin> I realy need help
[02:27] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Oh, a kernel panic, is it?
[02:27] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: yea of course it was runing for a long time until i got this new kernel, and after i booted i tried to modprobe it but it owuld give the same error as the one in bootup, fatal error inserting ieee8012_wep_crypt
[02:27] <linner> ubotu, thanks
[02:27] <ubotu> linner: no worries
[02:27] <unvs> hah i did dist-upgrade on hoary -> breezy, ran through it smoothly, no errors, rebooted, no errors, though "hey, that was painless" only to find out that i'm still in hoary. hahaha
[02:27] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle:no it would resume normally after that but witout internet
[02:27] <war-totem> there enough user support sites to help me out?
[02:27] <tarvid_> Flying-Penguin, have no idea how
[02:27] <shawnz> houman_zhu: wep_crypt is wireless WEP encryption i guess
[02:27] <shawnz> :p
[02:27] <Flying-Penguin> tarvid_: to kill a wine ap?
[02:27] <shawnz> is that why? :p
[02:28] <houman_zhu> shawnz: thats right
[02:28] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Did you make clean and ./configure before make and make install?
[02:28] <unvs> it did *nothing* lol
[02:28] <Flying-Penguin> tarvid_: what would it be called? like killall (what)
[02:28] <linner> ubotu, what is wine
[02:28] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, linner
[02:28] <tarvid_> Flying-Penguin, ps aux | grep wine?
[02:28] <linner> ubotu, tell me about wine
[02:28] <shawnz> sigh
[02:28] <sharp> !wine
[02:28] <shawnz> ubotu is a BOT
[02:28] <ubotu> shawnz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:28] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: make install the ieee drivers? or th ekernel? the kernel was just an image i didnt compile it
[02:28] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, a seriously dumb question, but i just don't know the answer.  I have set up my wireless card now, and want to connect to my router wirelessly.  now i know the wireless key, and the network name is i presume the same as it was in windows, which i can remember.  however, ip address, subnet mask, and gateway address i have no idea what to put in there.  i presume 255.255 malarky in mask, but what about the other 2? i pres
[02:28] <Lunar_Lamp> ume network ips - one of the router, one of this pc?
[02:28] <shawnz> not a person
[02:28] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: The driver.
[02:28] <tarvid_> Flying-Penguin, a little, it will show you the pid so you can do kill -9 <pid>
[02:29] <shawnz> mask should usually be 255.255.255.0
[02:29] <soso> shutdown says: "you must be root to do that!" thats normaly OK but 1.) shutdown is not own by root and 2.) the user is listet in /etc/shutdown.allow bug?
[02:29] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: and the ieee drivers well i redid everything and now it works, but im just thikning i must be doing somethign wrong, the kernel was the same version why did it breal my driver
[02:29] <DaMi3n> linner, try man wine
[02:29] <shawnz> gateway is your router's IP
[02:29] <shawnz> DaMi3n: without it installed? 8-)
[02:29] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: i recompiled the drivers and now they work
[02:29] <DaMi3n> Laughing Out Loud.. no
[02:29] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, there are a lot of little numbers after the kernel version
[02:29] <shawnz> lol.
[02:29] <Flying-Penguin> I just reloged
[02:29] <shawnz> get rid of the word filter
[02:29] <Flying-Penguin> se you guys in gui ;)
[02:29] <linner> DaMi3n, since i'm really new to linux i can't tell if you're kidding me
[02:29] <linner> DaMi3n, sounds like a come on line! :)
[02:30] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: how can i check it? uname -r just gives me the first 3 numbers
[02:30] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well, if it was 686-5 now it was probably 686-somethinglowerthan5 before. I wouldn't imagine them releasing two -5 kernels. But then again I'm new to ubuntu. :)
[02:30] <DaMi3n> linner, rofl
[02:30] <DaMi3n> linner, do apt-get install wine
[02:30] <shawnz> linner: man is the manual viewer. but, if you dont have wine installed, you dont have the manual either.
[02:30] <linner> ok... :)
[02:30] <linner> thanks
[02:30] <DaMi3n> linner, then do man wine
[02:30] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well, a driver is a kernel module and as such it is expected to be compiled against the kernel.
[02:30] <linner> oh okay.... hehehheeh
[02:30] <DaMi3n> shawnz, that wil make sure if wine is there
[02:30] <shawnz> yes.
[02:30] <shawnz> apt, i know.
[02:30] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: I figure it has got something to do with the System.Map file, but that's just a hunch.
[02:30] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, cat /proc/version
[02:30] <shawnz> package manager.
[02:31] <zorba64> sharp: If you're using this as desktop system you'll probably want to use synaptic to install x, gnome, ubuntu specific themes, etc
[02:31] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: yes, i see what youre saying, and since i compiled it from source the pckage manager is not aware of it and it might have reinstaled its own old versio again over my new one
[02:31] <DaMi3n> yea XD
[02:31] <sharp> zorba64, will try and come back if it persists.  Thanks
[02:31] <Lunar_Lamp> shawnz, would "IP address" be the ip on the network of this pc?
[02:31] <shawnz> Lunar_Lamp: is it set to use dhcp...
[02:32] <shawnz> but yes, thats what it is
[02:32] <shawnz> the local ip for your computer
[02:32] <tarvid_> ubuntu+webmin is a mess, anyone know of a howto to reconcile the two?
[02:32] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: cool, there is so much info in that proc thingie that i dont knwo about :) thanks, its a Linux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5 -8ubuntu2))
[02:32] <sharp> zorba64, out of curiosity, is apt-get update & upgrade logically equivalent to using synaptic for updates?
[02:32] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, me too
[02:32] <shawnz> sharp, synaptic is just an APT frontend.
[02:33] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: well i dunno, it works now:) so i wont complain, i guess in linux for a noob like me i should be happy enough things are working, trying to figure out whats going on under the hood is beyond me
[02:33] <zorba64> sharp: yup...gui front end
[02:33] <ertreyuuu> bye
[02:33] <shawnz> ^
[02:33] <shawnz> thats why you can click `\/ Terminal' and see apt going
[02:33] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, there is more going on under the hood than anybody could really grasp
[02:33] <soso> shutdown says: "you must be root to do that!" thats normaly OK but 1.) shutdown is not own by root and 2.) the user is listet in /etc/shutdown.allow bug?
[02:33] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well you'll get there eventually. But now you know. Different kernels require different builds of the same drivers. It's the same with nvidia-kernel drivers iirc.
[02:33] <linner> shawnz, DaMi3n I'm going through Synaptic to get wine... thanks :)
[02:34] <cvt> please help me get a typing tutor
[02:34] <DaMi3n> linner, gr8
[02:34] <ertreyuuu> bye
[02:34] <cvt> i don't know how to install this stuff
[02:34] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: well the gurus must know, the linux geeks knwo for sure, i knwo a couple of them in my school, they knwo alot,
[02:34] <linner> shawnz, DaMi3n do ya'll know if i can run illustrator and photoshop on it?
[02:34] <cvt> and mplayer
[02:34] <cvt> how do i install mplayer.
[02:34] <shawnz> linner: it usually only does basic progs.
[02:34] <DaMi3n> linner, u need crossover to do it better
[02:34] <linner> define basic
[02:34] <shawnz> so its a big *maybe*
[02:34] <Venson> cvt: spend 2 hrs on irc every day...and you'll get typing at top speed in no time ;)
[02:34] <cvt> i can't understand the websites
[02:34] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, but there is too much for anyone
[02:34] <linner> oh gosh... what's crossover?
[02:34] <DaMi3n> linner, i am not sure if wine will be sufficient
[02:34] <shawnz> crossover is like wine
[02:34] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: However the ubuntu people are good enough to supply those modules in binary format, so as long as you're able to use the binary modules that's the easiest option. :)
[02:34] <linner> ok
[02:34] <shawnz> but
[02:34] <shawnz> not free
[02:34] <shawnz> and better
[02:35] <DaMi3n> yea
[02:35] <DaMi3n> XD
[02:35] <murtaugh> I just upgraded to breezy and my menus are all black, did i hose something or is that a known problem
[02:35] <linner> shawnz, well it doesn't have to be free if it'll run adobe stuff
[02:35] <linner> thanks :)
[02:35] <cvt> what is the linux equivalent to .exe?
[02:35] <houman_zhu> BlueEagle: i wana compile my own kernel, i mean one day, haha
[02:35] <shawnz> cvt: linux doesnt use 'extensions'
[02:35] <shawnz> you see the occasional one
[02:35] <cvt> i have gtypist installed but i can't see how to run it
[02:35] <shawnz> but they arent usually used
[02:35] <shawnz> just do
[02:35] <shawnz> 'gtypist'
[02:35] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, give up taking baths and showers, it will make more time for compiling kernels
[02:35] <SuperTails92> houman_zhu: Compiling's the easy part.
[02:35] <shawnz> it has no extension.
[02:35] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
[02:35] <cvt> shawnz, which file to click to get gtypist to start?
[02:36] <Lunar_Lamp> it didn't seem to work
[02:36] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: i have seen people who knwo more than you can imagine, but for that you gotta be single and sitting in th basement 24/7 , which mot people cant afford to do, if i spend more than couple of horus in front of my ubuntu my gf will start yelling
[02:36] <shawnz> um
[02:36] <shawnz> cvt:
[02:36] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: Well, that's usually what gives the fastest result, however with the modular design of the kernel it's small marins we're talking about afaik.
[02:36] <shawnz> do it in a terminal.
[02:36] <lundner> where can i get the w32codecs?
[02:36] <thellama> fm-radio tuner says cant open device /dev/radio, why is this? cant it just use the internet?
[02:36] <unvs> maybe i should quit irc/screen while upgrading?
[02:36] <benplaut> !w32codecs
[02:36] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <cvt> ok
[02:36] <cvt> i'm getting close
[02:36] <shawnz> unvs: doesnt matter
[02:36] <linner> hey ya'll... i downloaded and installed wine... but now I can't find it in my menus
[02:36] <benplaut> lundner, read what ubotu said
[02:36] <cvt> thx
[02:36] <linner> ???
[02:36] <zorba64> lundner: go to mplayer site
[02:36] <DaMi3n> ubotu, is a bot??
[02:36] <ubotu> DaMi3n: Wish i knew
[02:36] <unvs> shawnz: cool. thanks
[02:36] <benplaut> linner, it doesn't quite run like that
[02:36] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: if you have a config file compiling your kernel is not too hard
[02:37] <shawnz> linner, you should now be able to click on EXEs
[02:37] <shawnz> and use them
[02:37] <lundner> thanx @ubotu
[02:37] <unvs> heh
[02:37] <shawnz> ...
[02:37] <linner> shawnz, oh okay
[02:37] <unvs> !botsnack
[02:37] <ubotu> thanks unvs :)
[02:37] <linner> benplaut, it doesn't?
[02:37] <shawnz> ubotu is a robot.
[02:37] <unvs> :P
[02:37] <ubotu> shawnz: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:37] <shawnz> :p
[02:37] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: the hard part is the manual kernel, but if you start with an existing config file the rest is easy
[02:37] <shawnz> pft
[02:37] <shawnz> you meany
[02:37] <DaMi3n> :p
[02:37] <shawnz> :p
[02:37] <benplaut> linner: no... it's more like, "wine /dir/to/file/exec.exe"
[02:37] <shawnz> YES I GOT HIT BY WINDMILL BLADES GOING AT 1MPH
[02:37] <DaMi3n> rofl
[02:37] <tarvid_> houman_zhu, for years Mandrake shipped a config file which did not match the kernel binary
[02:37] <RedGhost> using ubuntu(gnome) recently the system clock display has been very wrong, i sync it then it falls hours behind within a few days
[02:37] <unvs> did you survive??
[02:37] <RedGhost> it is the right timezone
[02:38] <shawnz> benplaut: it usually associates itself in nautilus
[02:38] <nalioth> brb
[02:38] <benplaut> shawnz, i never noticed :P
[02:38] <linner> benplaut, oh lord... so basically it's for extremely simple programs
[02:38] <linner> ok
[02:38] <shawnz> lol
[02:38] <shawnz> im not sure if the apt one does
[02:38] <benplaut> linner, command line doesn't mean simple
[02:38] <BlueEagle> redghost: ntp is your friend.
[02:38] <shawnz> i know the one in the offical wine apt source does though
[02:38] <shawnz> BlueEagle: he said he did
[02:38] <benplaut> anything that can run MS Office XP is not simple
[02:38] <Flying-Penguin> is there a nice program that helps me edit my gnome menues?
[02:38] <shawnz> his system clock is running slow
[02:38] <shawnz> Flying-Penguin: smeg
[02:38] <shawnz> !Smeg
[02:38] <ubotu> smeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:39] <Flying-Penguin> shawnz: I know what smeg is
[02:39] <BlueEagle> redghost: Are you dualbooting windows and linux?
[02:39] <houman_zhu> tarvid_: well whats the use of a config file really if you cant recompile it or something, i mean if you dont have the source who cares whats in the config file? im not sure really, maybe other programs need to look it up for stuff
[02:39] <benplaut> Flying-Penguin, you don't consider it nice?
[02:39] <Flying-Penguin> shawnz: sorry just couldn't remember name, saw you say it when I was running in term
[02:39] <Flying-Penguin> No I am going to try it! w00t
[02:39] <shawnz> lol
[02:39] <shawnz> its quite good.
[02:39] <linner> shawnz, where would i find the MPG player I just downloaded?  Again, I don't see it in my menu. :(
[02:40] <shawnz> things don't usually go to your menu.
[02:40] <shawnz> what was it called?
[02:40] <Flying-Penguin> apt-get not have smeg?
[02:40] <linner> let me go see... I've forgotten
[02:40] <yikes_ati> Hello! :)
[02:40] <shawnz> Flying-Penguin: add backports to apt sources
[02:40] <benplaut> Flying-Penguin, nope
[02:40] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[02:40] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:40] <linner> one moment
[02:40] <benplaut> but it's in breezy main
[02:40] <DaMi3n> Flying-Penguin, its got smeg in backports
[02:40] <houman_zhu> are there any games i can download for ubuntu? i dont have 3D accel , first person shooter or somethgin
[02:40] <Flying-Penguin> shawnz: add backports how?
[02:40] <shawnz> Flying-Penguin
[02:40] <houman_zhu> its friday night and im bored, any games people?
[02:41] <shawnz> read
[02:41] <unvs> yay. i'm getting 1400kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com
[02:41] <shawnz> !repositories
[02:41] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:41] <benplaut> houman_zhu, go to ubuntuforums.org , and go to the Hoary gaming forum
[02:41] <SuperTails92> Speaking of backports, it seems broken.
[02:41] <benplaut> there's a good list there
[02:41] <cevizoglu> unvs: jnethack
[02:41] <houman_zhu> benplaut: thanks
[02:41] <benplaut> houman_zhu, what kind are you looking for?
[02:41] <SuperTails92> As in, downloads fail.
[02:41] <Mez> SuperTails92,  ??? broken how
[02:41] <linner> shawnz, mpg123
[02:41] <unvs> cevizoglu: what?
[02:41] <yikes_ati> my ati card with ubuntu fglrx has only one resolution. (640x480)   I need a hint. link?
[02:41] <shawnz> then goto the applications menu
[02:41] <shawnz> goto Run application
[02:41] <houman_zhu> benplaut: something liek counter strike , shooting
[02:41] <shawnz> type mpg123 and click ok.
[02:41] <linner> shawnz, yeah it's not in the apps
[02:41] <Flying-Penguin> shawnz: thank you much! you know the ubuntu bot realy well
[02:41] <BlueEagle> houman_zhu: A first person shooter w/o 3d-accel? bzFlag anyone?
[02:42] <shawnz> linner: i know
[02:42] <shawnz> it doesnt add itself to the menu
[02:42] <shawnz> usually.
[02:42] <benplaut> houman_zhu, nexuiz... google it, then look in their forums for the linux installer
[02:42] <shawnz> goto run application
[02:42] <lisi> someone who uses 2.6.13 kernel?
[02:42] <shawnz> and type mpg123.
[02:42] <linner> shawnz, where do i find run application
[02:42] <linner> is that in terminal?
[02:42] <shawnz> its at the bottom of the applications menu...
[02:42] <svu> why is ntpdate run before network is up?
[02:42] <houman_zhu> its not my fault i dont have 3d accel, i installed it but my comp was crashing, apparently some bug in X org , i had to disable it
[02:42] <yikes_ati> anyone else suffering with an ati card?
[02:42] <test34> lisi, why ?
[02:42] <jims> Anyone able to help a Linux newbie with Ubuntu updates?
[02:42] <linner> shawnz, not on my machine
[02:42] <benplaut> svu: my queswtion is why is it there in the first place :P
[02:43] <linner> shawnz, i'm using breezy if that helps
[02:43] <shawnz> linner: uh
[02:43] <shawnz> oh
[02:43] <houman_zhu> yikes_ati: meeeeeeeeee, read the prev line i wrote, i hate it
[02:43] <shawnz> breezy
[02:43] <BlueEagle> jims: Not uless you tell us which problems you're having with ubuntu updates.
[02:43] <zorba64> jims: yeah
[02:43] <shawnz> havent tried it yet
[02:43] <shawnz> so wouldnt know.
[02:43] <linner> oh okay
[02:43] <linner> thanks
[02:43] <shawnz> you know how to get into the terminal though?
[02:43] <linner> yes
[02:43] <lisi> test34, I have "mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs'"  <-- this error on start-up.
[02:43] <shawnz> open that, and type mpg123 there then
[02:43] <shawnz> same thing
[02:43] <linner> ok
[02:43] <shawnz> just then you cant close the terminal :p
[02:43] <linner> i'll try that
[02:43] <houman_zhu> yikes_ati: i have X300 ATI, 128 Mb, and i cant enable 3D accel
[02:43] <svu> benplaut, is it bad to sync the time?
[02:43] <linner> oh... no?
[02:43] <linner> how come?
[02:43] <shawnz> because
[02:43] <benplaut> svu: i like short boots :P
[02:43] <crimsun> svu: it isn't (S40networking and S51ntpdate)
[02:44] <shawnz> the media player is running inside the terminal
[02:44] <shawnz> so
[02:44] <shawnz> close the terminal, close the media player
[02:44] <shawnz> thats how linux works
[02:44] <BlueEagle> Does ubuntu use devfs? o.O
[02:44] <crimsun> svu: I'm running Breezy Preview
[02:44] <crimsun> BlueEagle: udev
[02:44] <svu> crimsun, I'll check, just a sec
[02:44] <BlueEagle> crimsun: That was what I thought.
[02:44] <linner> one problem... here's what I'm getting:  bash: run: command not found
[02:44] <shawnz> um
[02:44] <jims> I got an icon on my panel that said updates were available.  It downloaded an update for ssh, python and the kernel.  After downloading, I clicked on 'Install' but the vernel version (per uname) remains the same...
[02:44] <shawnz> you dont actually type 'run application'.
[02:44] <lisi> BlueEagle, I don't know but my devfs still remains, I'd like to remove it :)
[02:44] <shawnz> that was the menu item
[02:44] <BlueEagle> lisi: When rolling your own kernel don't compile in devfs. It's obsolete and depreciated and not supported.
[02:45] <shawnz> you can just type mpg123 in the terminal.
[02:45] <linner> right... i just typed mpg123
[02:45] <zorba64> jims: reboot after a kernel update
[02:45] <linner> i did that
[02:45] <yikes_ati> the open ati drivers have no probelm with adjusting resolution on the fly just no accel with them. the fglrx drivers have accel but only one display resolution.
[02:45] <shawnz> no
[02:45] <shawnz> you typed run mpg123
[02:45] <shawnz> or run application mpg123
[02:45] <linner> no i didn't... i did type run
[02:45] <shawnz> or something.
[02:45] <linner> sorry
[02:45] <linner> :)
[02:45] <shawnz> yeah
[02:45] <lisi> BlueEagle, I can't find any match about devfs in 2.6.13 :)
[02:45] <shawnz> just 'mpg123'
[02:45] <shawnz> its like dos.
[02:45] <lundner_> whats the best player for mp3 and co?
[02:45] <linner> oh lord
[02:45] <shawnz> lundner_: vlc.
[02:45] <linner> yeah that's not what i was expecting...
[02:45] <test34> lisi, add /dev filesytem support in filesystem section and add also automatically mount at boot if it aint checked
[02:45] <shawnz> hands down
[02:45] <DaMi3n> lundner_, amarok
[02:45] <cevizoglu> shawnz: I don't think you can invoke mpg123 from "Run Application"
[02:45] <jims> zorba: I have but still same version.  I am looking at several steps in an Ubuntu forum, but not excited about tackling that yet...
[02:45] <lisi> there is nothing similar. I've checked alsa in pseudo filesystems menu. but nothig :(
[02:46] <shawnz> cevizoglu: oh?
[02:46] <lundner_> but the playlist is not good @ shawnz
[02:46] <shawnz> why not?
[02:46] <shawnz> term app??
[02:46] <shawnz> -?
[02:46] <lisi> test34, I'll chek it now..
[02:46] <unvs> my two favorite apps so far: amarok and synergy
[02:46] <lundner_> amarok is for kde or am i wrong @ DaMi3n ?!
[02:46] <crimsun> vlc's playlist is fairly difficult to manipulate
[02:46] <linner> shawnz, let's try this question instead... using Totem I get this:  There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:46] <shawnz> lundner_: doesnt matter
[02:46] <pussfeller> im trying to configure this logitech elite keyboard, and when I type double-quotes, i have to hit 2x and get  instead
[02:46] <DaMi3n> lundner_, its for kde but works in gnome yoo
[02:46] <shawnz> linner: well that means its started
[02:46] <DaMi3n> too*
[02:46] <shawnz> its just broken
[02:46] <crimsun> it suffices as a basic playlist, but there are much better ones, like amarok's
[02:47] <shawnz> and i cant help you there
[02:47] <pussfeller> ah this is screwed !
[02:47] <cevizoglu> shawnz: not to mention, that will only load one song at a time
[02:47] <DaMi3n> lundner_, get xmms for gnome only system
[02:47] <linner> shawnz, so where do I get the correct plugins?  through synaptic?
[02:47] <shawnz> no idea there.
[02:47] <linner> cevizoglu, i'm not looking to run music... video
[02:47] <DaMi3n> linner, do apt-get win32codecs
[02:47] <RedGhost> BlueEagle redghost: Are you dualbooting windows and linux?
[02:47] <unvs> linner: there's an article about that on the wiki i think
[02:47] <linner> shawnz, thank you :)
[02:47] <RedGhost> yes
[02:47] <DaMi3n> linner, do apt-get install win32codecs
[02:47] <unvs> !codecs
[02:47] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <linner> DaMi3n, okey dokey
[02:47] <linner> be right back
[02:47] <lundner_> amarok is a very good player i guess ... i had it when i used the kde desktop i properly will take this one :-)
[02:48] <cevizoglu> linner: you've tried mplayer and totem?
[02:48] <DaMi3n> hes trying totem
[02:48] <unvs> isn't there a vlc for linux?
[02:48] <linner> cevizoglu, no... not mplayer... does it come bundled with ubuntu?
[02:48] <cevizoglu> linner: no
[02:48] <RedGhost> apt-get install vlc
[02:48] <DaMi3n> unvs, yes there is
[02:49] <unvs> nice
[02:49] <RedGhost> or the vlc-gtk or gnome or whatever
[02:49] <linner> cevizoglu, can i get it through synaptic?
[02:49] <Away_Lamp> can someone explain what the possible reasons for my wireless network card not working might be? i am fairly sure the drivers are working correctly, though i don't know how to check, but i didn't get any errors in the installation process, and it sees my card in networking options
[02:49] <DaMi3n> linner, : mplayer.hq
[02:49] <RedGhost> apt-cache search vlc
[02:49] <unvs> RedGhost: thanks
[02:49] <linner> cevizoglu, what's the difference between mplayer and totem
[02:49] <RedGhost> np
[02:49] <yikes_ati> Anyone think returning an ati card for nvidia is a good idea?
[02:49] <cevizoglu> linner: yes, in synaptic
[02:49] <linner> ok
[02:49] <linner> thank you :)
[02:49] <cevizoglu> linner: not sure, I don't use totem too much
[02:49] <SuperTails92> yikes_ati: Hell yes, AFAIK.
[02:49] <linner> ok fair enough I'll try to go get it now :)
[02:49] <linner> thank you!
[02:49] <cevizoglu> linner: I just recommend trying out both and seeing if it works for you
[02:50] <yikes_ati> lol - okay - i believe you are a genius and am going to return this difficult ati card pronto.
[02:50] <nalioth> linner: you dont have to pay for any of the software in the repos except with your learning time
[02:51] <linner> cevizoglu, there are so many choices when I type in mplayer in synaptic
[02:51] <linner> nalioth, I've got that part :)
[02:51] <nalioth> linner: get the mplayer that best matches your system
[02:51] <DaMi3n> linner, goto mplayer.hq and get source
[02:51] <linner> DaMi3n, you realize I don't know how to compile a source right... I've only been doing this for 4 days now
[02:52] <cevizoglu> ubotu, tell linner about mplayer
[02:52] <Lunar_Lamp> can someone explain what the possible reasons for my wireless network card not working might be? i am fairly sure the drivers are working correctly, though i don't know how to check, but i didn't get any errors in the installation process, and it sees my card in networking options.  i am fairly sure it's something simple though
[02:52] <nalioth> linner: for now, choose the mplayer in the repos that closely matches your box
[02:52] <DaMi3n> linner, just type ./configure make and make install
[02:52] <linner> DaMi3n, in terminal?
[02:52] <DaMi3n> or do what nalioth says XD
[02:52] <nalioth> linner: there's a bit more to compiling than what DaMi3n says
[02:53] <cevizoglu> linner, look at ubotu's howto on mplayer
[02:53] <linner> nalioth, that's what i understood from a previous forum
[02:53] <cevizoglu> er, the wiki on mplayer which ubotu gave you
[02:53] <linner> cevizoglu, okay :)
[02:53] <Flying-Penguin> GAH
[02:53] <svu> crimsun, it seems the problem is with networking script. It fails to init eth0 for some reason. While ifup eth0 works ok :(
[02:53] <Gobbla> umm how do you install .deb files?
[02:53] <DaMi3n> dpkg -i package
[02:54] <Flying-Penguin> DaMi3n: I tryed adding backports with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse and it said it couldn't be connected
[02:54] <Gobbla> thx
[02:54] <Mez> Flying-Penguin, you sure you didnt make a typo
[02:54] <Mez> !tell Flying-Penguin about backports
[02:54] <benplaut> IcemanV9, i hate to say it, but Elive 0.3 still looks nicer :P
[02:54] <kurt> IcemanV9: are you missing the run application program?
[02:55] <DaMi3n> Flying-Penguin, : dunno mayb u did a trypo or got the addr wrong
[02:55] <gpled> will we be able to update to 5.10?
[02:55] <kurt> yes gpled
[02:55] <Flying-Penguin> let me try again
[02:55] <IcemanV9> kurt, it was planned though.
[02:55] <kurt> it was?
[02:55] <benplaut> kurt: if you have a problem with it, it's probably isolated... workes on mine
[02:55] <kurt> you have "run"?
[02:55] <linner> thank you nalioth
[02:55] <linner> cevizoglu, this is working... you rock man! :)
[02:55] <IcemanV9> yeah. it was mentioned somewhere in wiki or forum.
[02:56] <gpled> kurt: that will be cool. think this is the first os upgrade, that i did not have to re-install for :)
[02:56] <unvs> i'm getting a boatload of locale warnings during upgrade
[02:56] <Flying-Penguin> mez DaMi3n thank you guys
[02:56] <FaeWolfe> I have tried what it says in wiki to install java, and it doesn't work for me :(
[02:56] <init_6> FYI..(for those who are interested)... if you make a raid zero system and all hell breaks loose on boot edit your startup scripts (/etc/rcS.d/) and move evms in front of mdadm-raid and add a sleep 5 to the end of the evms script.
[02:56] <init_6> now to go get drunk
[02:56] <DaMi3n> FaeWolfe, do u have the bin file
[02:56] <zorba64> unvs: perl locale C stuff?
[02:56] <IcemanV9> kurt, however you can add it to the panel
[02:56] <unvs> zorba64: yea
[02:56] <kurt> IcemanV9: It's not the same :(
[02:57] <Flying-Penguin> smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed (help?)
[02:57] <zorba64> it'll come out in the wash by the end of it
[02:57] <FaeWolfe> DaMi3n, I get all sorts of errors when I even try to download it
[02:57] <cevizoglu> anyone know of a tool which will tell you all packages you've installed with apt-get?
[02:57] <cevizoglu> text-only?
[02:57] <kurt> cevizoglu: aptitude, dselect.
[02:57] <unvs> zorba64: so am i screwed? :)
[02:57] <flugh> what's a proper way to copy my ~ dir somewhere else? cp -p ...?
[02:58] <kurt> flugh: read cp's man pages
[02:58] <cafuego> cp -a normally works.
[02:58] <linner> one other question... how do I tell linux to use mplayer as my default for MPGs
[02:58] <DaMi3n> FaeWolfe, download it from java.sun.com
[02:58] <zorba64> unvs: no, the messages should disappear when it finishes
[02:58] <cevizoglu> kurt: I'm looking for something which will just print a list of all packages I've already installed...
[02:59] <FaeWolfe> DaMi3n.....what do I do once I download it?  (sorry still learning this stuff)
[02:59] <DaMi3n> then do chmod 755 filename.bin
[02:59] <DaMi3n> and then ./filename.bin
[02:59] <DaMi3n> how do u upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??
[02:59] <cralost> somebody knows a gimp repository?
[02:59] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: dont want to make a .deb??
[03:00] <FaeWolfe> zorba....???
[03:00] <SuperTails92> Wha? It's still September, and 5.10 is out?
[03:00] <unvs> preview release
[03:00] <DaMi3n> yea they say the previe sth is out
[03:01] <flugh> kurt: sorry for the late response to the duh response. i know -p 'preserves'. wondering if there's a gotcha i may be missing
[03:01] <kurt> r?
[03:01] <DaMi3n> unvs, how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10
[03:01] <kurt> recursive..
[03:01] <nalioth> !tell DaMi3n about upgrade2breezy
[03:01] <DaMi3n> tx
[03:02] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: make a deb from the java.bin file and install it
[03:02] <FaeWolfe> zorba...I don't know how to do that..................this is all new to me
[03:02] <trakatran> alguien habla espaol
[03:02] <trakatran> ?
[03:02] <nalioth> !es
[03:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:02] <cvt> i have doom 3 for linux;  what do i open the iso's with?
[03:02] <cvt> please
[03:02] <cevizoglu> anyone had any problems with upgrading to breezy on powerpc?
[03:03] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes, may i help you with your ppc?
[03:03] <cevizoglu> nalioth: huh?
[03:03] <shawnz> :o
[03:03] <DaMi3n> nalioth, can i upgrade to breezy w/o its cdrom
[03:03] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: ok...have you done what Damien said and you are in the directory with the java file
[03:03] <shawnz> can run irssi from the rescue installer
[03:03] <shawnz> cool
[03:03] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes, i've had trouble with breezy upgrading on my ppc
[03:03] <unvs> hehe
[03:03] <cevizoglu> DaMi3n: yes, you change your sources.list to the web server
[03:04] <nalioth> DaMi3n: yes you can, but i recommend having an install cd as 'insurance'
[03:04] <cevizoglu> nalioth: what kind of problems?
[03:04] <DaMi3n> nalioth, k
[03:04] <nalioth> cevizoglu: lots of small problems. i dont recommend upgrading for another couple weeks
[03:04] <cevizoglu> nalioth: like what?
[03:05] <FaeWolfe> zorba....I'm trying to figure out which version I even need to d/l from sun's site
[03:05] <nalioth> cevizoglu: lots of little irittants
[03:05] <reiki> is it unusual that fdisk -l does NOT list my hard drive? :)
[03:05] <nalioth> cevizoglu: you'd better be on top of your game if you are upgrading now
[03:05] <nalioth> reiki: yes
[03:06] <Fr0Gs> clear
[03:06] <cevizoglu> nalioth: lol, now I have to upgrade  :D
[03:06] <FaeWolfe> zorba....do I need the rpm or the other one ?
[03:06] <benkong2> why does this not work? get permission denied "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && dhclient wlan0"
[03:06] <reiki> nalioth: well obviously my hard drive is working... and ther's only just the one hard drive... but fdisk -l does not give me any information on it
[03:06] <yikes_ati> reiki - there is a nice script out there to mount all available drives and partitions winmac_fstab
[03:06] <reiki> very odd
[03:06] <DaMi3n> umm the update seems to be unable to find many packages
[03:06] <benkong2> This does work "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:06] <nalioth> reiki: that IS unusual
[03:07] <nalioth> DaMi3n: what arch are you using?
[03:07] <DaMi3n> reiki, so sudo fdisk -l
[03:07] <DaMi3n> nalioth, arch??
[03:07] <yikes_ati> ubotu tell reiki about mount
[03:07] <reiki> yikes_ati: I'd have to say it's mounted or I don't think I'd be able to see any of the filesystem
[03:07] <yikes_ati> ubotu tell reiki about winmac_fstab
[03:07] <DaMi3n> reiki, r u running as root
[03:07] <DaMi3n> reiki, r u running as root/sudo
[03:07] <nalioth> DaMi3n: are you using amd64, i386, or ppc?
[03:07] <DaMi3n> i386
[03:08] <reiki> DaMi3n, that did it... odd that I could see my usb flash drive without using sudo
[03:08] <benkong2> aynone?
[03:08] <nalioth> DaMi3n: the server(s) im sure are being hammered
[03:08] <DaMi3n> nalioth, ohh mayb i'll try upgrading l8r
[03:08] <linner> cevizoglu, that worked perfectly once I uninstalled totem
[03:09] <cevizoglu> linner: how odd  :(
[03:09] <linner> cevizoglu, one question for you though...
[03:09] <rcec> I've installed Kubuntu 5.10 breezy tonight. Problem I'm having is that it will not allow me to get into networking and change the setting to get my wireless up and running. It keeps asking for adminstrator password. . . what gives?
[03:09] <linner> I know
[03:09] <linner> cevizoglu, i get an error message about fonts
[03:09] <linner> have you ever gotten that?
[03:09] <shawnz> rcec.
[03:09] <shawnz> you can get into a terminal
[03:09] <shawnz> sudo bash to get to root
[03:09] <shawnz> um, +i.
[03:09] <cevizoglu> linner: no, but someone else here might have
[03:09] <shawnz> then passwd to set a password for it
[03:09] <shawnz> then it'll work
[03:10] <linner> cevizoglu, you know what I'll try to fix it on my own before i ask for help
[03:10] <linner> cevizoglu, thank you for yoru recommendation
[03:10] <linner> :)
[03:10] <linner> oops your
[03:10] <cevizoglu> sure
[03:10] <benkong2> ping Seveas
[03:10] <rcec> I'll give that a try. . . . thnks
[03:10] <shawnz> ~
[03:10] <shawnz> um
[03:10] <shawnz> oops
[03:10] <benkong2> why does this not work? get permission denied "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && dhclient wlan0"
[03:11] <shawnz> uh
[03:11] <shawnz> because the last two commands arent running in sudo?
[03:11] <DaMi3n>   404 Not Found??? is that just cos of server overload??
[03:11] <benkong2> This does work "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:11] <shawnz> benkong2.
[03:11] <benkong2> shawnz; yes
[03:11] <shawnz> `because the last two commands arent running in sudo?'
[03:11] <shawnz> you need a sudo for each, or quotes.
[03:12] <benkong2> oh ok the forum post gave the first command as an example
[03:12] <shawnz> because && starts a new command.
[03:12] <benkong2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31418 it does work if I add the sudo
[03:12] <shawnz> and sudo was the command.
[03:12] <benkong2> should I use +
[03:12] <loljesus> Hello!
[03:12] <shawnz> so you need to do sudo "command&&command", or "sudo command && sudo command"
[03:12] <cafuego> shawnz: the latter
[03:13] <shawnz> oh
[03:13] <shawnz> thought they both worked.
[03:13] <DaMi3n> nalioth, how do i revert baq to my old package state
[03:13] <tommy2> Hey guys. I'm back again, and I think I might need some help... I just downloaded Enemy Territory, and it's a .run file. How do I execute and install it?
[03:13] <nmatt> Hello?
[03:13] <shawnz> ...
[03:13] <cafuego> shawnz: Or pop all commands in a single shell script and run the shells cript with sudo.
[03:13] <benkong2> cafuego; shawnz, what's the difference?
[03:13] <shawnz> tommy2.
[03:13] <shawnz> open a terminal
[03:13] <nmatt> Guys. If I can get some help. I am a complete newbie with Linux.
[03:13] <shawnz> cd to its dir
[03:13] <cafuego> benkong2: sudo foo && bar *only* run 'foo' as root.
[03:13] <nmatt> And all I need to do is get my Wireless Card working on it.
[03:13] <benkong2> cafuego; ok
[03:13] <nalioth> DaMi3n: have you upgraded anything at all?
[03:13] <shawnz> type "./whatevername.run"
[03:14] <shawnz> @ tommy2
[03:14] <DaMi3n> nalioth, : no i just updated the package structure
[03:14] <benkong2> I figures as much since whenever I added the extra sudo's it ran ok
[03:14] <nmatt> >_>
[03:14] <DaMi3n> nalioth, : its givin too many errors so i dont wanna upgrade now
[03:14] <benkong2> got wpa working though just got to add this to boot
[03:14] <nalioth> DaMi3n: then change the order of your sed command to change breezy back to hoary
[03:14] <linner> regarding mPlayer:  I get an error message that says, "New_Face Failed.  Maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file.
[03:14] <DaMi3n> k
[03:14] <linner> anyone?
[03:14] <nalioth> linner: anyone what?
[03:14] <nmatt> :(
[03:14] <benkong2> shawnz; is the ./whatevername.run for me??
[03:15] <linner> nakata, meaning if anyone can help me figure out this error message I'd be grateful
[03:15] <nmatt> Whoever helps me will be thanked. :P
[03:15] <nalioth> nmatt: we need info to answer your question properly
[03:15] <nmatt> oh
[03:15] <nmatt> haha
[03:15] <shawnz> no benkong2 ....
[03:15] <shawnz> i said
[03:15] <shawnz> '@ tommy2'
[03:15] <linner> nalioth, ok... what information can I give you
[03:15] <DaMi3n> nalioth,  sudo sed -e 's/hoary/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <linner> regarding mPlayer:  I get an error message that says, "New_Face Failed.  Maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file.
[03:15] <DaMi3n> will that do it
[03:15] <nalioth> linner: look in your synaptic for mplayer -blah- fonts
[03:15] <nmatt> Ok, I just installed Breezy Badger and my wireless card (PCI, Cisco Aironet 340) will not work.
[03:15] <benkong2> cafuego; shawnz; ok thanks I'll work on the rest of the stuff
[03:15] <FaeWolfe> zorba.try again?
[03:16] <linner> nalioth, ok...
[03:16] <linner> thanks
[03:16] <nalioth> DaMi3n: you have to specify 'breezy' (thats whats in there now)
[03:16] <nmatt> And I am pretty much a total newbie at anything *nix.
[03:16] <shawnz> herm
[03:16] <shawnz> does anyone know of a cd burner for linux.
[03:16] <unvs> does the breezy update automatically fix my grub.conf?
[03:16] <shawnz> preferrably one i can apt-get and one that runs in term
[03:17] <nalioth> nmatt: by installing breezy, you've jumped off into "under developement"
[03:17] <tritium> shawnz, cdrecord runs on the command line...
[03:17] <unvs> fix/setup
[03:17] <nmatt> :P
[03:17] <kaptaink> is there any way to change folder permissions to default?
[03:17] <linner> nalioth, see I thought the program would come complete with all the files it required... I didn't realize I had to piecemeal it
[03:17] <tommy2> If a file is saved on my desktop? What directory would that be?
[03:17] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: sure...how new are you to this...do you know about the universe repo in the sources.list?
[03:17] <shawnz> cdrecord?
[03:17] <nalioth> linner: in some cases, apt will get all you need, but some pkgs are a little different
[03:17] <shawnz> thanks.
[03:17] <nmatt> I assumed that, being a massively supported card, any release should have the correct drivers and such.
[03:17] <shawnz> um
[03:17] <shawnz> it burns isos?
[03:18] <nmatt> Any options I can take other than installing the Hedgehog.
[03:18] <nmatt> ?
[03:18] <benkong2> cafuego; question so does that mean sudo make && make install the last command runs as unpriviliged user?
[03:18] <FaeWolfe> zorba...............I don't know much about it at all........
[03:18] <zblach> haldo
[03:18] <shawnz> benkong2: yes.
[03:18] <shawnz> ...
[03:18] <nalioth> nmatt: you are using a "developement release" of ubuntu. things may not work well (If at all)
[03:18] <linner> nalioth, i'm realizing that... I'm just having a hard time distinguishing between a "need more software to work" error and a "choose the right folder dummy" error... :)
[03:18] <shawnz> okay benkong2, listen.
[03:18] <cafuego> benkong2: Yes, but that command should not be run EVER anyway.
[03:18] <cafuego> !tell benkong2 -about checkinstall
[03:18] <zblach> anyone here set up an ftp server before?
[03:18] <shawnz> 'sudo make' is the first command you run.
[03:18] <nmatt> So there isn't anything I can do about it?
[03:18] <shawnz> 'make install' is the second
[03:18] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: have u used the terminal...??
[03:18] <FaeWolfe> zorba.......I've had ubuntu on this computer about a month and haven't had alot of time to use it
[03:18] <nalioth> linner: "dummies" refuse to learn
[03:18] <FaeWolfe> zorba                  yes
[03:18] <linner> nalioth, point taken :)
[03:19] <benkong2> cafuego; thanks
[03:19] <kaptaink> is there any way to change folder permissions to default?
[03:19] <cafuego> benkong2: You would never run a normal 'make' as root and 'make install' would normally run as root, except doing that on ubuntu is extremely stupid.
[03:19] <zblach> !ftp
[03:19] <ubotu> I don't know, zblach
[03:19] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: ok...sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <nalioth> nmatt: check this out: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:19] <shawnz> cafuego: why? :/
[03:19] <nmatt> Shall do. :)
[03:19] <cafuego> !tell shawnz -about checkinstall
[03:20] <shawnz> sigh
[03:20] <funkyHat> would using polypaudio solve the problem i have with esd, which is sound is delayed by over 1 second
[03:20] <shawnz> making me open links eh?
[03:20] <shawnz> :p
[03:20] <funkyHat> ?
[03:20] <tommy2> So I have opened a terminal. Whatever that is... ? Now I need to point it to my file correct? :\
[03:20] <FaeWolfe> zorba....ok   now what
[03:20] <shawnz> sigh.
[03:20] <cafuego> shawnz: Whatever you like. Telnet works too.
[03:20] <benkong2> cafuego; guess i'll get out of this newbie state as I learn from this great community of helpful folk.
[03:20] <shawnz> someone tell tommy2 what a terminal is.
[03:20] <Her0_42> ubuntuguide.org
[03:20] <Her0_42> i learned a ton from it
[03:20] <Sym|Away> Holy sweetness, auto-package is cool.
[03:21] <tommy2> I'm sorry... :( I'm completely new to this.
[03:21] <tritium> !tell Her0_42 -about ubuntuguide
[03:21] <benkong2> Her0_42; I did also just this wireless ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant were kicking my teeth
[03:21] <SuperTails92> !tell tommy2 about terminal
[03:21] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: remove the # from in front of the line referring to the unsupported universe repo
[03:21] <nalioth> !tell tommy2 about cli
[03:21] <cevizoglu> ubotu, tell tommy2 about terminal
[03:21] <funkyHat> SymGeosis, yes, it is :)
[03:21] <adiiidas> is there a way to turn on wireless lan in the ubuntu live cd?
[03:22] <Her0_42> ah
[03:22] <nmatt> Would the Cisco Aironet 340 be listed under its own category or under another Cisco card?
[03:22] <Her0_42> system>administration>networking and configure and enable it
[03:22] <nmatt> I used the Live CD and it worked perfectly.
[03:22] <zorba64> FaeWolfe: ..looks similar to this one: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[03:22] <shawnz> sheesh
[03:23] <shawnz> pft
[03:24] <SymGeosis> Hey! Lynx is great.
[03:24] <shawnz> what else is there to use thats decent
[03:24] <SymGeosis> shawnz, elinks.
[03:24] <cevizoglu> you mean text-only?
[03:24] <shawnz> yes cevizoglu
[03:24] <Xorlev> Whoa I'm in shock. My shipit CDs finally came.
[03:24] <shawnz> lol Xorlev
[03:24] <benkong2> cafuego; auto-apt a good idea?
[03:25] <nalioth> shawnz: can you compile?
[03:25] <shawnz> elinks is in apt
[03:25] <Xorlev> Only took 2 months.
[03:25] <shawnz> ill go with that for now
[03:25] <cevizoglu> shawnz: I hate text-only browsers
[03:25] <shawnz> lol indeed Xorlev
[03:25] <shawnz> cevizoglu.
[03:25] <shawnz> 1) they rock
[03:25] <shawnz> 2) x broke
[03:25] <benplaut> what's the BASH command to pause? i thought it was 'wait', but it's not working...
[03:25] <SymGeosis> cevizoglu, they have their uses, like when X breaks.
[03:25] <shawnz> :p
[03:26] <SymGeosis> or when one wants to compile their own system from the ground up.
[03:26] <shawnz> SymGeosis: breathtaking
[03:26] <unvs> ok. reboot-time
[03:26] <shawnz> :p
[03:26] <unvs> wish me luck
[03:26] <Xorlev> Or when downloading off weirdly linked mirrors that wget doesn't like.
[03:26] <shawnz> (elinks)
[03:26] <nalioth> shawnz: have a look at links.twibright.com
[03:26] <shawnz> :D
[03:26] <shawnz> nalioth: without a browser? :p
[03:26] <shawnz> well ive got elinks and it works
[03:26] <shawnz> and its in apt.
[03:26] <cevizoglu> SymGeosis: I thought lynx was just an excuse for people to stay only in their terminal all day
[03:26] <shawnz> wtf?
[03:26] <shawnz> thats the best kind of day.
[03:26] <crimsun> elinks kills lynx imo
[03:27] <shawnz> indeed
[03:27] <war-totem> anyone ever come across something like this: Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:27] <war-totem>  gaim
[03:27] <war-totem> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:27] <cevizoglu> SynGeosis: It was a joke about lynx.. I like it when X breaks  :)
[03:27] <war-totem> this is at an apt-get
[03:27] <dabaR> Do you guys know whether cplay can be made to play mp4/m4a/aac files?
[03:28] <SymGeosis> shawnz, you can try out links2 if you like, however it crashes constantly for me.
[03:28] <nalioth> dabaR: have you checked the config script in the source?
[03:28] <nalioth> SymGeosis: links.twibright.com
[03:28] <soultaker> hello to all
[03:28] <dabaR> nalioth: no, not at all.
[03:29] <SymGeosis> nalioth, I think I already mentioned links...
[03:29] <soultaker> Anyone can help me with LMsensors I just install it but is not working to Gdesklets
[03:29] <SymGeosis> Or perhaps you missed it?
[03:29] <nalioth> SymGeosis: that URL is the home of links2
[03:30] <SymGeosis> Yes, yes indeed. I shall clarify. I think I already mentioned links2.
[03:30] <cafuego> Well, isn't that shitty.
[03:30] <soultaker> Anyone can help me with LMsensors I just install it but is not working to Gdesklets <---- I am Newby
[03:31] <shawnz> its missing one thing
[03:31] <shawnz> image viewing :D
[03:31] <SymGeosis> shawnz, elinks can do that. elinks -g IIRC.
[03:31] <shawnz> :O
[03:31] <shawnz> how
[03:31] <DaMi3n> will it be possible to upgrade frm 5.04 to 5.10 when its released in oct??
[03:31] <tritium> SymGeosis, why not a dentist or a endocrinologist?
[03:31] <mik3> how do i put stuff on a floppy disk
[03:32] <tritium> s/a/an
[03:32] <cevizoglu> is elinks related to links by any chance?
[03:32] <shawnz> jesus
[03:32] <nalioth> cevizoglu: and lynx, also
[03:32] <shawnz> ctrl+c messes up the rescue kernel
[03:32] <SymGeosis> tritium, why not?
[03:32] <tritium> But why a person, anyway?
[03:32] <cevizoglu> nalioth: you mean forkwise?
[03:32] <SymGeosis> cevizoglu, Yes. It's a fork.
[03:32] <mik3> how do i put stuff on a floppy disk in ubuntu please
[03:32] <svu> hwclock --show returns "Timed out waiting for time change". What would this mean?
[03:32] <cevizoglu> mik3: cp
[03:33] <SymGeosis> cevizoglu, it was started mainly for bug-fixes and such that were taking too long to be implemented in links2.
[03:33] <mik3> but how do i mount the floppy drive
[03:33] <ssdd65> now is hyperthreading somthing i need some kind of driver for or is it hardware based?
[03:33] <cevizoglu> mik3: mount?
[03:33] <mik3> obviously, what's the syntax
[03:33] <DaMi3n> mike goto /media
[03:33] <cafuego> mik3: Depends on the floppy format; if it's FAT (dos) easiest would be to install mtools and use 'mcopy <file> a:'
[03:33] <mik3> DaMi3n : do you know the syntax?
[03:33] <shawnz> ERROR at cmdline.c:96: Unknown option -g
[03:34] <shawnz> :/
[03:34] <DaMi3n> mik3, open /media/floppy in nautilus
[03:34] <soultaker> anyone can tell me how to configurate the lm-sensors ?..
[03:34] <mik3> well im trying to put a zip file with drivers onto a floppy drive to use on a windows box
[03:34] <cevizoglu> mik3: mount -t format /dev/device /mnt/yourfolder
[03:34] <cafuego> mik3: mtools it is, then.
[03:34] <DaMi3n> cevizoglu, i think it'll already be mounted
[03:34] <cafuego> mik3: cevizoglu is just being difficult.
[03:34] <mik3>  Ignoring ALL messages from cevizoglu!*@*
[03:34] <mik3> i know
[03:34] <shawnz> rofl
[03:34] <shawnz> owned
[03:34] <mik3> his pseudo-intellect is amusing
[03:34] <cafuego> mik3: 'sudo apt-get install mtools'
[03:35] <mik3> anyways thanks for those people who were helpful
[03:35] <Ali`G> hey all is anyone good with samba
[03:35] <Ali`G> ?
[03:35] <cafuego> mik3: then, 'sudo mcopy <zipfile> a:' (that assumed the floppy is already formatted). If not, 'sudo mformat a:'
[03:35] <soultaker> the brazilians dance good samba
[03:35] <Jared1> when i load up ubuntu on the boot disc (live cd)..it does a bunch of loading then takes me to a dos screen and says "A:/"...heh how do i load it up from there?
[03:35] <mik3> ahhh nice, thanks cafuego
[03:35] <shawnz> Jared1.
[03:36] <ssdd65> is hyperthreading somthing i need some kind of driver for or is it hardware based?
[03:36] <shawnz> *nix does not use '?:\' paths.
[03:36] <shawnz> that ain't the installer.
[03:36] <cevizoglu> ssdd65: both
[03:36] <DaMi3n> cafuego, cant he just use the gui
[03:36] <cafuego> ssdd65: You need to install the 686-smp kernel.
[03:36] <shawnz> ssdd65: it just spoofs two processors
[03:36] <shawnz> ah
[03:36] <cevizoglu> ssdd65: you need a hyperthreading chip and you need kernel support for it
[03:36] <shawnz> apparently you need a driver though.
[03:36] <cafuego> DaMi3n: that is SO slow; and I doubt floppies get automounted; the hardware doesn't support notification.
[03:36] <ssdd65> i have the chip just need the kernel
[03:36] <Jared1> So, what did I do wrong?  I burned the files and booted up the comp with it..
[03:37] <dabaR> cevizoglu: you know, lynx and text based browsers are used for things like universal access enabled programs, like, for feeding into the text reading device, for blind people, and such.
[03:37] <cafuego> ssdd65: it's sort of like a lobotomy, with the amputated brain pretending to be a full second brain ;-)
[03:37] <benkong2> cafuego; very good documentation thank you. I found more stuff there than ever. This will make my learning much better. again thank you.
[03:37] <cevizoglu> dabaR: if you read above, I was joking, joking!
[03:37] <DaMi3n> ok
[03:37] <cevizoglu> geez
[03:37] <shawnz> Jared1: no idea, but a:\ is NOT li/unix
[03:37] <shawnz> thats dos.
[03:37] <shawnz> do you have a dos floppy in?
[03:37] <[Spooky] > anyone have any tip in getting sound with amd64 dvd playback ?
[03:37] <SymGeosis> shawnz, I was wrong. Links2 supports graphics however, elinks does not (as far as I can tell)
[03:37] <dabaR> cevizoglu: still, you can know that fact, if you had not known before.
[03:38] <Jared1> no i dont...it was loading the cd and then went to that
[03:38] <shawnz> uh
[03:38] <shawnz> did it show an ubuntu logo.
[03:38] <shawnz> and ask you to hit enter
[03:38] <SymGeosis> shawnz, and as I said, the command was links2 -g
[03:38] <Jared1> no it didnt
[03:38] <shawnz> then you have a floppy disk in. take it out.
[03:38] <Jared1> no floppy in..
[03:38] <Jared1> ive never even used a floppy on this comp
[03:38] <nalioth> dabaR: if you get the source code and run ./configure --help against it, it will show you available options
[03:38] <shawnz> then you have a flash drive or something plugged in.
[03:39] <shawnz> trust me, that isnt the ubuntu cd.
[03:39] <Jared1> i have a usb coord plugged in but its not connected to anything
[03:39] <DaMi3n> shawnz, is it possible to avoid all the startup messages on boot and show a splash screen or sth like fedora/windows
[03:39] <shawnz> DaMi3n: i know
[03:39] <shawnz> hes talking about the installer.
[03:39] <DaMi3n> no i am asking another question
[03:39] <kairu0> i cant get japanese input to work in breezy. anyone used it succesfully?
[03:40] <shawnz> oh.
[03:40] <shawnz> yes
[03:40] <shawnz> its possible
[03:40] <DaMi3n> umm how??
[03:40] <Jared1> maybe i burned it wrong.  whenever i would burn straight from the iso as an image, my computer wouldnt read the cd after..so i unrared it and burned the files individually and this is what happened
[03:40] <unvs> looks like it upgraded ok so far
[03:40] <shawnz> you add some sort of graphical app to runlevel 1.
[03:40] <dabaR> nalioth: I have acquired knowledge that  need to get the mpeg4ip-bin package.
[03:40] <shawnz> cant use x though
[03:40] <shawnz> since that starts later
[03:40] <ssdd65> so by making my linux think it has 2 procs ht will work?
[03:40] <unvs> got a keyboard module error, but i switched driver from "keyboard" to "kbd" and gdm booted
[03:40] <DaMi3n> okay
[03:40] <SymGeosis> DaMi3n, try splashy.
[03:41] <Jared1> shawnz: whenever i would burn straight from the iso as an image, my computer wouldnt read the cd after..so i unrared it and burned the files individually and this is what happened
[03:41] <DaMi3n> SymGeosis, shawnz tx
[03:41] <nalioth> dabaR: rock on
[03:41] <shawnz> sigh
[03:41] <dabaR> nalioth: well, its not in ubuntu.
[03:41] <shawnz> Jared1: then you burned the wrong file or something
[03:41] <shawnz> trust me
[03:41] <SymGeosis> DaMi3n, np.
[03:41] <shawnz> that is NOT the ubuntu install cd.
[03:41] <Jared1> i burned ALL the files that were unrared together
[03:41] <nmatt> Guys.
[03:41] <zdennis> What is a good graphical cd burning software?
[03:41] <shawnz> listen
[03:41] <nmatt> This is really irritating.
[03:41] <shawnz> that isnt the ubuntu install cd.
[03:41] <nalioth> zdennis: k3b
[03:41] <shawnz> what nalioth said
[03:41] <zdennis> thx nalioth
[03:42] <Jared1> im telling you though, i unrared the .iso..okay?  then i burned all those files onto 1 cd
[03:42] <nmatt> I enabled the card in networking and everything, it IS seen by the OS, but it won't work at all.
[03:42] <nmatt> I can't log into Gaim nor use Firefox.
[03:42] <SymGeosis> zdennis, You can use nautilus to burn CD's if you have gnome.
[03:42] <shawnz> okay Jared1.
[03:42] <DaMi3n> Jared1, u burn iso to disk not unrar it and burn it
[03:42] <shawnz> but that still inst the ubuntu install cd.
[03:42] <zdennis> yeah, i run stock Ubuntu =)
[03:42] <zdennis> gots to have Gnome!
[03:42] <SymGeosis> zdennis, if you want a GTK2 burner outside of Nautilus I recommend GnomeBaker.
[03:42] <zdennis> thx SymGeosis
[03:42] <shawnz> oh
[03:42] <Jared1> i know damien, but when i burn iso to disk for some reason my comp wont even read the disk after
[03:42] <shawnz> lmao
[03:42] <shawnz> its not suppose to
[03:42] <shawnz> 8-)
[03:43] <zdennis> k3b will install KDE?
[03:43] <DaMi3n> l0l
[03:43] <shawnz> zdennis: no, just a bunch of kde libs
[03:43] <shawnz> indeed
[03:43] <unvs> is it just me, or do the fonts look MUCH better in breezy?
[03:43] <aru> Graveman is also an excellent cd burner
[03:43] <SymGeosis> zdennis, It doesn't hurt anything; It's just kinda annoying.
[03:43] <cevizoglu> anyone know a good app to fill up hd space?  got too much free space on here
[03:43] <Jared1> when i reboot the comp with a image disc though, it still boots straight to windows..totally skipping the disc
[03:43] <zdennis> SymGeosis, I am trying Gnhome Baker
[03:43] <zdennis> 4Mb of downloaded files is better then 112Mb
[03:43] <zdennis> =)
[03:43] <nalioth> Jared1: check md5 sums on the imaga and the burnt cd
[03:44] <zdennis> if I wanted KDE I'd use Kubuntu!
[03:44] <Jared1> how do I do that? =p
[03:44] <nmatt> Anyone have any ideas now?
[03:44] <ssdd65> so once this kernel is downloaded and installed what do i have to do to boot it.....
[03:44] <zdennis> nmatt,  what is your problem?
[03:44] <nmatt> ok
[03:44] <dabaR> nalioth: do you use cplay?
[03:44] <cevizoglu> nmatt: what, breezy?
[03:45] <tritium> ssdd65, if it's an ubuntu kernel, it'll be setup for you automagically
[03:45] <dabaR> I want to know where the cplay config file is.
[03:45] <zdennis> ssdd65, you did a install of another kernel from apt-get or from Synaptic?
[03:45] <Jared1> shawnz: when i reboot the comp with a image disc though, it still boots straight to windows..totally skipping the disc
[03:45] <nmatt> I've just installed Ubuntu and everything worked fine except my wireless card.
[03:45] <ssdd65> synaptic
[03:45] <cevizoglu> dabaR: might be in /etc
[03:45] <nalioth> davix: lol, i've never heard of it, actually
[03:45] <tritium> dabaR, dpkg -L cplay to find out
[03:45] <nmatt> I've enabled it and all, it located my network, and I figured it connected... but when I try and log into gaim or use Firefox, I get errors.
[03:46] <nmatt> So pretty much, my card is enabled an supposedly working, but it really isn't.
[03:46] <zdennis> Jared1, you may need to hit F2 or Del to go into your BIOS setup, and set your computer to boot from CDROM before Hard Drive (HDD)
[03:46] <zdennis> ssdd65, you should be able to reboot, and select the kernel from a list when Ubuntu boots
[03:46] <Jared1> I did that..and it says "Boot CD" when i restart..then still loads to windows
[03:46] <zdennis> nmatt, ah, that blows
[03:46] <ssdd65> ok
[03:46] <nmatt> lol
[03:46] <nmatt> thanks, I know. :(
[03:46] <nalioth> dabaR: ~/.cplay
[03:46] <cevizoglu> nmatt: if your networking is broken, something is seriously wrong usually
[03:47] <zdennis> Jared1, when it says that you have to hit Enter
[03:47] <zdennis> potentially
[03:47] <Jared1> if I dont hit enter it will load into windows?
[03:47] <dabaR> right, its not there, I put the example one there.
[03:47] <nmatt> Well, the weird thing is... It worked in the Live CD. ;-;
[03:47] <dabaR> we'll see how taht works.
[03:47] <zdennis> Jared1, yes i believe so.  Does it write like ten dots out...?           Boot from Cd ..........  ?
[03:47] <tritium> dabaR, dpkg -L cplay to find it
[03:48] <Jared1> I dont remember if it has dots or not...but I know after about 5 seconds of it sa ying that it continues to load into windows
[03:48] <zdennis> Jared1, typically you get x number of seconds to hit any key to boot fro mthe cd
[03:48] <DaMi3n> is there a download manager for ubuntu that can download using multiple threads
[03:48] <zdennis> if you dont hit anything it'll skip the cd
[03:48] <Gobbla> sudo: ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run: command not found
[03:48] <Jared1> great, let me go try that then
[03:48] <Jared1> thank you
[03:48] <Gobbla> whats wrong?
[03:48] <nmatt> BRB, I am going to mess around with it and try to get it to work. :P
[03:49] <cafuego> Gobbla: sh ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:49] <Gobbla> that did the trick, whats sh?
[03:49] <zdennis> is et-linux-2.55.x86.run even a file?
[03:49] <dabaR> tritium: ya, thanks I got the message the first time, that is how I got the example file...
[03:49] <zdennis> Gobbla is the Bourne Shell
[03:49] <Gobbla> zdennis: yeah?
[03:49] <cevizoglu> Gobbla: the basic shell
[03:49] <dabaR> tritium: thanks a lot.
[03:49] <Gobbla> ok
[03:49] <tritium> dabaR, sure :)
[03:49] <DaMi3n> is there a download manager for ubuntu that can download using multiple threads
[03:50] <zdennis> DaMi3n, multiple threads for the same file?
[03:50] <DaMi3n> zdennis, yes
[03:50] <shawnz> wget=best
[03:50] <shawnz> :p
[03:50] <zdennis> what shawnz said
[03:50] <shawnz> :D
[03:51] <DaMi3n> but wget is slow
[03:51] <zdennis> what? that is just crazy
[03:51] <lsuactiafner> wget aint slow
[03:51] <DaMi3n> but i need to have multiple connection to get a speed boost
[03:51] <paulproteus> cafuego: It often happens that servers limit the amount they'll serve per connection.
[03:51] <cafuego> DaMi3n: No it's not, it runs at whatever speed either YOU or the remote server can handle.
[03:51] <shawnz> DaMi3n: speed bost?
[03:51] <paulproteus> cafuego: Also, downloading the same file from multiple servers can be a great boost.
[03:51] <shawnz> um no
[03:51] <lsuactiafner> DaMi3n : called prozila, what you looking for
[03:51] <cevizoglu> DaMi3n: for what kind of download?
[03:51] <lsuactiafner> but wget is very good just trust us
[03:52] <cafuego> paulproteus: yes, that's what bittorrent is for.
[03:52] <DaMi3n> ok we have a proxy that allows a stream to transfer data at about 10 bps
[03:52] <Xorlev> Which command is it that lists other commands relevant to your arguement?
[03:52] <cevizoglu> DaMi3n: for system upgrades?  or just any file on the net?
[03:52] <shawnz> its not MULTIPLE servers paulproteus
[03:52] <DaMi3n> any file on net
[03:52] <cafuego> paulproteus: Spamming single servers that way is just bad.
[03:52] <benkong2> what does mapping hotplug subsystem do?
[03:52] <lsuactiafner> DaMi3n...
[03:52] <lsuactiafner> prozgui - A FLTK-based GUI front end for prozilla
[03:52] <shawnz> its just the same server
[03:52] <Xorlev> DaMi3n: 10bps? Ouch.
[03:52] <lsuactiafner> prozilla - multi-threaded download accelerator
[03:52] <DaMi3n> Xorlev, i know :(
[03:52] <paulproteus> cafuego: I would like to combine bittorrent with distributed HTTP downloads, because often I'm torrenting Linux ISOs I can get faster (at first, at least) via HTTP from a few sites at once.
[03:52] <cafuego> DaMi3n: So you need to fix the proxy.
[03:52] <lsuactiafner> my connection is 5kb/s max dialup
[03:52] <DaMi3n> lsuactiafner, k 'll try that
[03:52] <lsuactiafner> blhe
[03:52] <zdennis> benkong2, i believe it is USB
[03:52] <shawnz> paulproteus.
[03:53] <paulproteus> Once I've got the first e.g. half by HTTP, the torrent would fly.
[03:53] <shawnz> thats just because http servers usually have FASTER CONNECTIONS
[03:53] <cafuego> or murder the idiot who set it up that way.
[03:53] <DaMi3n> cafuego, i am in my coll campus and those are the settings frm admin
[03:53] <dabaR> I am going to be installing a program that is called: mpeg4ip. Debian has teh program in the repos. Ubuntu does not seem to. Suggestions, other than just trying to compile the source?
[03:53] <zdennis> any luck Jared1 ?
[03:53] <benkong2> no I mean in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:53] <paulproteus> shawnz: Right, exactly.  But I wouldn't want to overload them.  Hence, download a bit by HTTP and the rest by torrent.
[03:53] <shawnz> I don't see the point
[03:53] <Xorlev> dabaR: Download the .deb off the debian repos and dpkg -i it?
[03:53] <Jared1> okay, i loaded it up with the CD inside.  it said "Boot CD : _" then i pressed enter..and it just sat there for a bit, with "_" blinking, and then continued to load to windows
[03:53] <paulproteus> dabaR: Step 1: add Debian deb-src lines to your sources.list.
[03:54] <shawnz> why not just get the http server to serve it through bittorrent.
[03:54] <paulproteus> dabaR: Step 2: apt-get build-dep {package}
[03:54] <paulproteus> dabaR: Step 3: apt-get -b source {package}
[03:54] <cafuego> DaMi3n: Whata craptastic setup. Is that guy an MCSE or something?
[03:54] <shawnz> Jared1...
[03:54] <paulproteus> dabaR: You end up with locally-built debs.
[03:54] <shawnz> because you DID IT THE WRONG WAY
[03:54] <shawnz> -caps
[03:54] <zdennis> Jared1, then that means, it doesn't recognize the cd as a bootable cd
[03:54] <shawnz> you extracted the iso onto the disk
[03:54] <DaMi3n> cafuego, no they just wanna limit our d/loads
[03:54] <shawnz> which means
[03:54] <shawnz> you dropped the ENITRE bootsector
[03:54] <shawnz> the part that actually STARTS the installation
[03:55] <Jared1> I know, but I dont understand why it doesnt.  I went to nero and selected "burn as bootable disc"..then I selected my .iso
[03:55] <cafuego> DaMi3n: yes, 10b/sec is GREAT for looking at websites too. *shakes head*
[03:55] <shawnz> so it just skips it and goes to wndows.
[03:55] <dabaR> paulproteus: looks very good. How about that build-dep, will that install the packages that are debian, or compile from source?
[03:55] <Jared1> I burned it 2 different ways shawnz, because both didnt work
[03:55] <shawnz> Jared1: then your iso is corrupted.
[03:55] <zdennis> benkong2, do you have a usb or pcmcia nic?
[03:55] <paulproteus> dabaR: That downloads build dependencies.
[03:55] <paulproteus> Things you need for the compile.
[03:55] <nalioth> Jared1: check your md5s
[03:55] <paulproteus> It grabs those requirements from Ubuntu.
[03:55] <lythia> jaredl: did you try doing burn image to disc in nero?
[03:55] <shawnz> he did.
[03:55] <shawnz> he just said
[03:56] <benkong2> zdennis; built in wireless in my HP laptop gets a usb interrupt though
[03:56] <dabaR> so it wont install nothing debian, great, thank you very much, I will tell you shortly whether I am listening to mp4 files in cl.
[03:56] <zdennis> benkong2, that would seem why the hotplug is in there then
[03:56] <Jared1> yeah I've done that lythia
[03:56] <benkong2> ok just that when I have no network connection it takes forever for it to get past that step
[03:57] <Jared1> do I want it to burn it as an ISO or a boot CD?
[03:57] <benkong2> I can hit ctrl +c and it goes ahead and boots
[03:57] <cevizoglu> benkong2: hit ctrl-c there if you don't need it set up
[03:57] <shawnz> bootable CD Jared1.
[03:57] <shawnz> actually
[03:57] <shawnz> no.
[03:57] <shawnz> iso.
[03:57] <lythia> jaredl yeah
[03:57] <cafuego> Jared1: nero -> Tools -> Burn Image; locate iso, burn.
[03:57] <benkong2> need some way...like my mac that in just a few seconds it knows no eth0 and no wlan0 and then just goes ahead and boots
[03:58] <zdennis> benkong2, what kind of hp ?
[03:58] <cevizoglu> benkong2: like editing your boot config file?
[03:58] <benkong2> also it would be cool if linux didn't get zv5000
[03:58] <zdennis> i have an hp laptop for work i am thinking of dual booting
[03:58] <benkong2> zv5000 HP
[03:58] <zdennis> most everything work good
[03:58] <zdennis> ?
[03:58] <lastnode> will my savage4 work with ubuntu?
[03:58] <lastnode> all other distros have hated it
[03:58] <benkong2> also it would be cool if linux didn't get confused when both eth0 and wlan0 are connected.. my mac never compalins
[03:59] <benkong2> I dual boot this one and I also run qemu for just the one prog I need for windoze
[03:59] <cevizoglu> benkong2: what exactly is your wlan0?
[03:59] <benkong2> wlan0 is the built in wireless port
[03:59] <cevizoglu> wow, cplay is nice
[04:00] <dabaR> benkong2: perhaps the gateway entries for your two cards are conflicting. You should have one gateway declared at one time.
[04:00] <svu> Why oh why instead of rebooting I am getting into something resembling init 1 root shell?
[04:00] <cevizoglu> benkong2: oh, huh.. my mac puts that as eth1
[04:00] <shawnz> svu
[04:00] <shawnz> power off? :p
[04:00] <benkong2> my mac does also
[04:01] <svu> shawnz, power off works ok. But I want linux to be able to reboot...
[04:01] <shawnz> uh
[04:01] <svu> benkong2, also root shell?
[04:01] <shawnz> init 6?
[04:01] <benkong2> my ubuntu box gives me wlan0 = wireless and eth0 = nic
[04:01] <shawnz> reboot?
[04:01] <shawnz> ctrl+alt+del
[04:01] <EvanCarroll> what cleans /tmp out?
[04:01] <shawnz> sudo kill -0 -1
[04:01] <shawnz> etc
[04:01] <EvanCarroll> is it a cron script?
[04:01] <svu> shawnz, on mac ctrl alt del does not work...
[04:01] <cevizoglu> EvanCarroll: reboot
[04:01] <shawnz> oh mac.
[04:01] <benkong2> svu; what about root shell
[04:01] <benkong2> I can have one in ubuntu if I need it
[04:01] <svu> benkong2, sorry, I mixed the subjects...
[04:02] <benkong2> ok
[04:02] <orospakr> how stable is breezy these days?
[04:02] <paulproteus> EvanCarroll:  It's an init script.
[04:02] <svu> benkong2, I mean I get root shell on console instead of reboot
[04:02] <shawnz> fs
[04:02] <shawnz> init 6
[04:02] <shawnz> !
[04:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, shawnz
[04:02] <shawnz> lol
[04:02] <benkong2> svu; how?
[04:02] <EvanCarroll> hrm, so every time i reboot an init script clears /tmp?
[04:02] <nmatt> No, Still doesn't work.
[04:03] <nmatt> So I am rebooting.
[04:03] <dabaR> nmatt: rebooting windows?
[04:03] <nmatt> ...
[04:03] <nmatt> No
[04:03] <EvanCarroll> paulproteus: I thought files stayed in /tmp for like 7days before a script cleaned them
[04:03] <nmatt> lol
[04:03] <dabaR> nmatt: what then?
[04:03] <nmatt> rebooting Ubuntu
[04:03] <svu> benkong2, I don't know... I am just getting there. :( no password, just root shell instead of reboot :(
[04:03] <nmatt> Because the darned thing won't work correctly.
[04:03] <benkong2> well atleast my wireless is working and I can go from home to office and work in both places
[04:03] <dabaR> bah...good luck. It did in fact on one occasion solve an isue for me.
[04:03] <nmatt> :P
[04:03] <shawnz> sigh svu.
[04:03] <benkong2> did you use startx?
[04:03] <nmatt> It bet it wont work for me. :/
[04:03] <shawnz> type init 6 !
[04:04] <dabaR> nmatt: chances are...
[04:04] <DaMi3n> umm i tried installing splashy
[04:04] <svu> shawnz, trying now...
[04:04] <shawnz> if that even works in mac
[04:04] <tritium> EvanCarroll, /tmp is in ram
[04:04] <DaMi3n> howevr it depends on libc6
[04:04] <nmatt> I ordered a bunch of CDs but none of the install CDs work. :(
[04:04] <DaMi3n>  splashy depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21);
[04:04] <dabaR> usplash is the name, I think.
[04:04] <DaMi3n> wot to do??
[04:04] <nmatt> I had to download/burn it to get it to work.
[04:04] <svu> shawnz, NOTHING happens
[04:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can somebody answer a question about tar.gz files?
[04:04] <shawnz> :O
[04:04] <svu> just another command line prompt
[04:04] <shawnz> try 7
[04:04] <Badtroll> Anyone know where to find the headers for the readline library?
[04:04] <shawnz> or 8
[04:04] <shawnz> or just 0
[04:04] <dabaR> Sonny_Wertzik: perhaps, you have to ask it first, tho.
[04:04] <shawnz> 0 halts kernel.
[04:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehe ok thx
[04:04] <cevizoglu> Sonny: what?
[04:05] <dabaR> youre welcome...next.
[04:05] <dabaR> heh
[04:05] <benkong2> Badtroll; synaptic search readline
[04:05] <DaMi3n> shawnz, i tried installing splashy .. it depends on libc6  splashy { depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21);} wot to do??
[04:05] <tritium> Badtroll, libreadline5-dev, presumably
[04:05] <shawnz> umm.
[04:05] <shawnz> apt-get libc6
[04:05] <shawnz> ?
[04:05] <pussfeller> there a way in vim to comment out sections in a file
[04:05] <DaMi3n> libc6 not there in repos
[04:05] <svu> shawnz, funny, init 7 kind of stopped the system, no shell any more ...
[04:05] <pussfeller> like in v mode
[04:05] <tritium> how much harder is it to type "what" instead of "wot"?  Come one, one extra letter?
[04:05] <shawnz> apt-get libc62.3.2.ds1-21
[04:05] <Badtroll> I found 'em ... thanks
[04:05] <shawnz> then
[04:05] <DaMi3n> installing that breaks my present package structure
[04:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> i typed ./configure in terminal....then im supposed to type make install accordind to the directions...but that doesnt work
[04:05] <shawnz> svu: then mac's runlevels suck
[04:05] <pussfeller> its the evolution of english in action mang
[04:06] <tritium> degradation
[04:06] <svu> shawnz, I belive so. The question is what I can do about it...
[04:06] <shawnz> dunno
[04:06] <shawnz> just restart.
[04:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> ./configure did unzip it tho
[04:06] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik: what did it say.
[04:06] <shawnz> 'checking for gcc...: no'?
[04:06] <shawnz> or something like that?
[04:06] <benkong2> svu; are you installing on a Mac ubuntu?
[04:06] <bluefoxicy> haha
[04:06] <bluefoxicy> that's great
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:/home/shared/qemu/linux$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> *hack the planet*
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:/home/shared/qemu/linux$ sudo su -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[04:07] <svu> benkong2, yes. Power G5 dual
[04:07] <nalioth> wtf
[04:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> 1 sec lemme try again so i can get the error msg
[04:07] <benkong2> cool
[04:07] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik.
[04:07] <nmatt> OMG
[04:07] <shawnz> just try this.
[04:07] <nmatt> IT WORKED!
[04:07] <benkong2> I ahve a G4 laptop I bought in 01-2005
[04:07] <shawnz> do this in terminal:
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> some things just can't be done with sudo.
[04:07] <nmatt> Rebooting actually WORKED
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> nmatt: ?
[04:08] <nmatt> >_>
[04:08] <shawnz> "sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc g++ autoconf automake make"
[04:08] <shawnz> do that ^
[04:08] <nmatt> I was having trouble with my WiFi card, I fixed it. :P
[04:08] <tritium> bluefoxicy, sometimes you have to use tee with sudo to do what you tried in the first case
[04:08] <shawnz> @ Sonny_Wertzik
[04:08] <nmatt> So thanks for your help everyone. :)
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> tritium:  su works ;p
[04:08] <shawnz> hmmm
[04:08] <tritium> shawnz, build-essential depends on gcc and g++
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> tritium:  sudo su -c "command line"
[04:08] <shawnz> yes i know tritium
[04:09] <svu> benkong2, I got my G5 from IBM, as a resulf of 'linuxonpower' competition. I would never buy it myself:)
[04:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok it says.....          make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:09] <shawnz> ...
[04:09] <shawnz> i said
[04:09] <tritium> shawnz, then you don't need to specify them separately
[04:09] <dabaR> right, you needed to do make first, probably, too.
[04:09] <dabaR> just make
[04:09] <tritium> bluefoxicy, yep
[04:09] <shawnz> erm no dabaR.
[04:09] <shawnz> tritium: what does build-essential even do :p
[04:09] <shawnz> ive used it all this time
[04:09] <shawnz> not knowing what it is :p
[04:10] <benkong2> svu; cool hope you like it. one of the fellows in the shop bought a dual G5 with dual Dell 24" monitors $6G but it is nica.
[04:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> when i type just make...... make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:10] <dabaR> a list of packages essential to buiiolding from source...
[04:10] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik:
[04:10] <shawnz> DONT just type make.
[04:10] <dabaR> what does ./configure say?
[04:10] <tritium> shawnz, it's simply a meta-package that depends on others, such as gcc and g++, providing a basic development env.
[04:10] <shawnz> ah.
[04:10] <benkong2> anyone how to start gaim minimized to the panel?
[04:10] <dabaR> paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:10] <shawnz> dabaR:
[04:10] <svu> benkong2, I like it with macos. But linux causes a lot of troubles :(
[04:10] <shawnz> s/he said already
[04:10] <dabaR> after you are done with shawnz , ok,. shawnz ?
[04:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> ./configure unzips the tar file
[04:11] <shawnz> sigh
[04:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> i can see it
[04:11] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik
[04:11] <dabaR> nope, the tar file needs to be done with tar xzfv file.tar
[04:11] <shawnz> TYPE "apt-get install build-essential" !
[04:11] <shawnz> sheesh
[04:11] <DaMi3n> ./configure unzips the tar file ..... wow really
[04:11] <benkong2> yeah I got 2 laptops so I just leave the Mac Mac and use the HP for windoze and ubuntu after I get out of the one course that is specifically for IE 6.0 i'll leave windoze for good.
[04:11] <h17m4n> is the mac mini any good??
[04:12] <shawnz> ...
[04:12] <shawnz> its not windoze.
[04:12] <shawnz> don't be a kiddy.
[04:12] <dabaR> send one messages, shawnz.
[04:12] <shawnz> erm
[04:12] <h17m4n> fanboyism
[04:12] <benkong2> one of the fellows has one and he loves it. he bought the rev 2 with 1 gig memory
[04:13] <h17m4n> hmm
[04:13] <benkong2> bad part is you can't crack them open for upgrade and the rev 1 ran much hotter. the rev 2 runs qool and quiet
[04:13] <kevogod> Why does the 386 kernel only support 896 MB of memory?
[04:13] <fiyawerx> hi guys
[04:13] <dabaR> Does one need to sudo make install?
[04:14] <shawnz> yes dabaR
[04:14] <kevogod> dabaR, Yes.
[04:14] <shawnz> but apparently there is a better way on ubuntu
[04:14] <TylerE> Does anyone know of a command line utility that can record from the soundcard for a specified time?
[04:14] <shawnz> wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:14] <shawnz> ^
[04:14] <neighborlee> hi..isn't  'export blah'  done in /etc/profile ......just wondering as the lines I added aren't being exported upon booting up...?
[04:14] <Jared1> hey guys - i tried burning it again and it worked hehee.  thanks =)
[04:14] <fiyawerx> would you recommend ubuntu to someone getting back into linux, used to use slackware for no good reason, and can't decide which distro to use after reading about 500 of them?
[04:14] <vu> Anybody using kolab server?
[04:14] <lythia> jaredl yay!
[04:14] <TylerE> like capture a wav file from the soundcard for say, an hour, then exit?
[04:14] <nalioth> dabaR: use checkinstall instead of 'make install'
[04:14] <zdennis> fiyawerx, i would go with Ubuntu
[04:15] <shawnz> neighborlee: doesn't export just set? :/
[04:15] <pussfeller> fiyawerx: either ubuntu or gentoo
[04:15] <zdennis> the install is piece of cak, and it works with almost all devices
[04:15] <nalioth> fiyawerx: yes
[04:15] <kevogod> !tell kevogod about checkinstall
[04:15] <zdennis> fiyawerx, don't 'use Gentoo if you are just getting back into linux
[04:15] <Jared1> i thought my ethernet card died, cause on windows i can only access internet for less than 30 seconds..but with ubuntu i can access it so it must be something wrong with windows
[04:15] <shawnz> fiyawerx: for sure.
[04:15] <shawnz> ubuntu is for everyone.
[04:15] <shawnz> everywhere.
[04:15] <shawnz> ever.
[04:15] <fiyawerx> nice, i think im going to give it a shot, it seems interesting
[04:15] <pussfeller> its the people distro!
[04:15] <kevogod> except iTunes people
[04:15] <shawnz> no
[04:15] <shawnz> its the human distro
[04:15] <fiyawerx> the pc is a newer hp media center pc im redoing, hope i wont have many issues with it
[04:15] <shawnz> :)
[04:15] <lythia> fiyawerx: it's very nice
[04:15] <reiki> fiyawerx: I was in almost the same boat as you are describing. I installed Ubuntu and I'm very happy. Had slack, redhat, debian, fedora... I like Ubuntu best
[04:16] <chavo> iTunes is for robots
[04:16] <shawnz> Ubuntu made me switch from windows.
[04:16] <chavo> we're humans
[04:16] <shawnz> I installed it for fun
[04:16] <fiyawerx> and hell im getting some friendly answers, thats a plus :)
[04:16] <shawnz> with fedora, i just dual booted and uninstalled it later.
[04:16] <shawnz> with ubuntu.
[04:16] <shawnz> it just stuck.
[04:16] <kevogod> Windows made me switch from Windows.
[04:16] <shawnz> then windows sort of left.
[04:16] <shawnz> :p
[04:16] <chavo> fiyawerx, we killed all the mena people
[04:16] <chavo> mean
[04:16] <DaMi3n> same
[04:16] <zdennis> I prefer Ubuntu and Debian
[04:16] <fiyawerx> is it hard setting up a dual boot with xp? (not looking for howto, just difficulty)
[04:16] <zdennis> although I want to put Gentoo on my laptop so I can tell someone i instaleld Gentoo on my laptop
[04:16] <zdennis> heh
[04:17] <shawnz> fiyawerx: quite easy.
[04:17] <chavo> not it's automatic
[04:17] <zdennis> fiyawerx, pretty easy
[04:17] <kevogod> fiyawerx, No, it is easy as hell. Just make sure you install Windows XP first.
[04:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> typing make install says     make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:17] <zdennis> fiyawerx, a little bit of fidgeting perhaps
[04:17] <shawnz> theres even a tutorial, 'how to return the Grub bootloader after installing windows'
[04:17] <fiyawerx> nice.. hmm
[04:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> what rule am i missing ?
[04:17] <zdennis> Sonny_Wertzik, try running ./configure   first
[04:17] <shawnz> and then ubuntu finds windows automatically and sets up a dualboot
[04:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> i did
[04:17] <shawnz> sigh
[04:17] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik.
[04:17] <shawnz> i said
[04:17] <reiki> fiyawerx, I set my machine up with removeable drives. I lock in the Ubuntu drive... if I ever need to boot back to XP I can pull this and insert the XP drive
[04:17] <zdennis> Sonny_Wertzik, try running.....  "make install"
[04:17] <shawnz> TYPE APT-GET INSTALL build-essential
[04:17] <shawnz> shees
[04:17] <shawnz> h
[04:18] <fiyawerx> i'll look up the tutorials, i just have one 250gig in there, i'd partition it off for both
[04:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> typing make install says     make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:18] <tritium> please be patient and kind, shawnz
[04:18] <shawnz> okay
[04:18] <shawnz> sorry.
[04:18] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik:
[04:18] <DaMi3n> Sonny_Wertzik, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:18] <zdennis> fiyawerx,  you should partition that off from like a 10 boot distro =)
[04:18] <zdennis> you could get one of each =)
[04:18] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, why are you building from source, and what is it?
[04:18] <fiyawerx> lol
[04:18] <lythia> haha
[04:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> its xine 0,99.4
[04:18] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik: type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:18] <shawnz> NOT make or whatever
[04:18] <chavo> I have 2 ubuntus, a suse, XP and Vista beta on here now
[04:18] <shawnz> or configure.
[04:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok ill give it a go
[04:18] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, why are you building xine?  It's available in the repositories.
[04:18] <chavo> but 2 250G hard ddrives
[04:19] <fiyawerx> another simple question, this may be more general, i forget my exact video card, but its a newer pci-e card, with dual outputs, does that generally work?
[04:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> this is the latest ver
[04:19] <DaMi3n> yes
[04:19] <nalioth> fiyawerx: generally
[04:19] <shawnz> fiyawerx: not sure about dual support
[04:19] <shawnz> but
[04:19] <shawnz> it should work
[04:19] <pussfeller> pci-e?
[04:19] <fiyawerx> pci express
[04:19] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, breezy has that version
[04:19] <pussfeller> what dat
[04:19] <reiki> fiyawerx, ATI-based? nVidia-based?
[04:19] <chavo> fiyawerx, nvidia or ati?
[04:19] <tritium> Perhaps just upgrade to breezy
[04:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> im using hoary
[04:19] <soultaker> hello to all
[04:19] <fiyawerx> you know, im dumb, but i dont remember which card i bought, its at home (im at work) its been a few months
[04:19] <nfinitep1astik> hello everyone!
[04:19] <DaMi3n> Sonny_Wertzik, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:19] <Euler> me 2
[04:19] <fiyawerx> i think i went with ATI at the time
[04:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i kust got things the way i like them on hoary
[04:20] <shawnz> sigh
[04:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok
[04:20] <DaMi3n> fiyawerx, then mayb not
[04:20] <pussfeller> maybe lspci would give some info
[04:20] <Euler> How can I install isapnptools under ubuntu ?
[04:20] <chavo> fiyawerx, ati works fine, nvidias drivers are a little more stable
[04:20] <fiyawerx> im not obsessed about the dual output, that wouldnt be a deciding factor, it'd just be nice :)
[04:20] <neighborlee> shawnz, oh ok you mean set env blah
[04:20] <nfinitep1astik> anyone have the thread to where ALSA is installed correctly instead of using esound?
[04:20] <reiki> chavo: you think he'll get the dual head working on that ati card?
[04:20] <fiyawerx> and i figured that wouldnt be distro specific anyway
[04:20] <chavo> fiyawerx, dual output is easy to do
[04:21] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, you might try using checkinstall, then
[04:21] <shawnz> nfinitep1astik: it comes with hoary.
[04:21] <fiyawerx> might have to start hanging out in here more now lol
[04:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> cool it worked
[04:21] <Brazmetal> does someone here use the nvidia driver?
[04:21] <fiyawerx> should i go with a current version? or wait until the new one is released?
[04:21] <firez> Hi, How can I restore the journal of my ext3 partition?, I deleted it with fsck because I couldn't boot in ubuntu
[04:21] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how to configuret the LM-sensors on P4-SDS-La Asus motherboard
[04:21] <tritium> !tell Sonny_Wertzik about checkinstall
[04:21] <pussfeller> i use the nvidias driver
[04:21] <mik3> help
[04:21] <nfinitep1astik> shawnz: correct...and it does work.....but it's not playing my sound correctly in games.....there was this thread that i've seen earlier that kinda 'installs' alsa correctly
[04:22] <shawnz> ah
[04:22] <soultaker> I just install it but dont detect the the Fans or temperature ?.
[04:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> checkinstalll   command not found
[04:22] <shawnz> something on ubuntuguide about reconfiguring sound drivers
[04:22] <shawnz> or something like that?
[04:22] <shawnz> pasted earlier?
[04:22] <mik3> i moved my box from a 22" monitor to like a 16" monitor and everything is huge, it won't let me switch the resolution
[04:22] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik: it would help if you installed checkinstall first.
[04:22] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, you'd need to install it
[04:22] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: do you have the nvidia-settings program installed?
[04:22] <nfinitep1astik> shawnz: it was like last week
[04:22] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, did you even read that URL?
[04:22] <fiyawerx> wireless networking an issue?
[04:23] <firez> is the journal that important in a ext3 partition?, I deleted mine
[04:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh...i just installed linuk 2 days ago i didn't know
[04:23] <shawnz> nfinitep1astik: really? i saw it pasted earlier
[04:23] <mik3> i moved my box from a 22" monitor to like a 16" monitor and everything is huge, it won't let me switch the resolution anyone have any ideas?
[04:23] <pussfeller> Brazmetal: no
[04:23] <shawnz> ill go looking
[04:23] <nfinitep1astik> shawnz: sorry, i wasn't on earlier ^.^
[04:23] <fiyawerx> i think thats it for my major concerns lol
[04:23] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, read the URL ubotu gave you re: checkinstall
[04:23] <shawnz> hm
[04:23] <DaMi3n> mik3, did u reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:23] <shawnz> dont see it
[04:23] <shawnz> sorry
[04:23] <mik3> DaMi3n no how do i do that
[04:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok
[04:23] <nfinitep1astik> shawnz: thanks for looking ^_^
[04:23] <shawnz> np
[04:24] <tritium> mik3, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <DaMi3n> mik3, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: the trouble is that I installed nvidia-settings and it says that my card's bus type is PCI... but I've got an AGP one
[04:25] <shawnz> Brazmetal: does it work?
[04:25] <shawnz> :p
[04:25] <pussfeller> i seem to recall that agp may have to do pci emulation or something, could be wrong
[04:25] <pussfeller> what does lspci say
[04:25] <Mr_You> I've never heard that.
[04:26] <hypatia> is there a place to file bugs against ubuntu's bugzilla install anymore?
[04:26] <shawnz> um
[04:26] <hypatia> there used to be a 'Bugzilla' component and there doesn't seem to be any more
[04:26] <shawnz> the web interface to bugzilla?
[04:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> dang i wish i knew about check install yesterday heh
[04:26] <pussfeller> 0000:01:04.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420]  (rev a3)
[04:26] <Brazmetal> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1)
[04:26] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: yes, my board appears in lspci..
[04:26] <bz0b> hey guys
[04:26] <bz0b> hey just a quick question
[04:26] <hypatia> shawnz: specifically, I want to report that the "Ubuntu Universe" link on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/enter_bug.cgi points to the wrong place
[04:27] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: so doesn't matter the bus type?
[04:27] <pussfeller> does it work?
[04:27] <bz0b> how do i properly change my hostname
[04:27] <hypatia> shawnz: but I don't know where to report bugs against their bugzilla itself
[04:27] <firez> is there any way that I can restore my journal in the ext3 partition?
[04:27] <benkong2> nighty night folks and thanks
[04:27] <bz0b> i tried doing sudo hostname, and it gave me an error about gethostnameby(
[04:27] <ubuntu> where is the x config file kept, anyone?
[04:27] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: yes it does... can you do a little test for me?
[04:27] <dabaR> nalioth: its playing mp4s now:).
[04:27] <bz0b> wow there is a person called ubuntu/
[04:27] <bz0b> amazing
[04:27] <kurt> ubuntu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:27] <ubuntu> bz0b, yep
[04:27] <bz0b> hello ubotu
[04:27] <bz0b> ubuntu*
[04:27] <pussfeller> Brazmetal: waht?
[04:27] <bz0b> so are you the creater?
[04:27] <firez> ubuntu is a bot, i think
[04:27] <nalioth> dabaR: cool
[04:28] <svu> any perspective to get 3D on nvidia/ppc? opensource or closedsource?
[04:28] <tritium> ubuntu, but you should modify it by doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <dabaR> bz0b: you will often find that, I think the default user name in the installation is ubuntu.
[04:28] <dabaR> Um...maybe not...
[04:28] <bz0b> yeah
[04:28] <kevogod> That is the default hostname
[04:28] <bz0b> yeah
[04:28] <kevogod> not username
[04:28] <bz0b> how do i change my hostname by the way
[04:28] <ubuntu> what is the command for renaming a file, anyone?
[04:28] <bz0b> the proper way
[04:28] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: could you run glxgears and get the average fps?
[04:28] <tritium> kevogod, it's also the default name in xchat
[04:29] <bz0b> because sudo hostname doesnt work
[04:29] <tritium> at least in the livecd
[04:29] <dabaR> ya, I remembered that right away after I said.
[04:29] <chavo> bz0b, reinstall
[04:29] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: mv as in move
[04:29] <bz0b> haha
[04:29] <chavo> :)
[04:29] <dabaR> ubuntu: man mv.
[04:29] <bz0b> chavo, that is the noob way
[04:29] <kevogod> tritium, Oh, I came in part way
[04:29] <bz0b> :)
[04:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> what packeges do i need to have make install work when i type it?
[04:29] <taw> hello
[04:29] <chavo> bz0b, /etc/hostname
[04:29] <bz0b> thanks
[04:29] <ubuntu> BlueEagle, but i don't want to move it, i want to rename it. argh!?
[04:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> i geuss i must be missing some
[04:29] <dabaR> Sonny_Wertzik: what program are you installing again?
[04:29] <bz0b> if there was such a directory
[04:29] <firez> well looks like I'm goin to wait to resolve my problem with the journal
[04:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> xine
[04:29] <kevogod> ubuntu: You move it into a different file name
[04:29] <taw> how can i install eclipse :-) ? i see some packages depending on it in apt, but not eclipse itself
[04:29] <tritium> bz0b, did you use hostname properly?
[04:29] <firez> taw
[04:29] <ubuntu> kevogod, ok
[04:29] <dabaR> heh, Sonny_Wertzik that is in universe, no need to compile xine...
[04:30] <firez> check the wiki
[04:30] <tritium> That should work...
[04:30] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: What is the difference between renaming a file from one name to another and moving it from a file with one name to a file with another name?
[04:30] <firez> search for eclipse
[04:30] <kevogod> ubuntu, You understand? You move the file "beans.jpg" to "beans-AWESOME.jpg"
[04:30] <bz0b> tritium, isnt it sudo hostname bz0b for instance?
[04:30] <pussfeller> Brazmetal: it averages about 770
[04:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> this is a newer xine
[04:30] <bz0b> and there it happend again
[04:30] <bz0b> my terminal wont even open
[04:31] <[koji] > taw: I got eclipse from eclipse.org
[04:31] <pussfeller> and i have an mx440 or so
[04:31] <ubuntu> BlueEagle, kevogod ok, thanx
[04:31] <airmikey> hi guys...i jus unzipped the tar file for vmware  but how do i get it to install
[04:31] <bz0b> now i really gotta reformatt
[04:31] <bz0b> jesus
[04:31] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: I think it's too poor isn't it?
[04:31] <bz0b> loves youQ@
[04:31] <bz0b> hmm well since i am might as well reformatting, i am going to install kubuntu!
[04:31] <dabaR> taw: you install java,  from wiki.ubuntu.com/Java, then you install eclipse. for example, like [koji]  and me did from their site...its a .bin, you give it +x with chmod, and then ./eclipse.bin, and it installs.
[04:31] <pussfeller> Brazmetal: mine is low?
[04:31] <neighborlee> bz0b, yes he sure does <wink>
[04:31] <BlueEagle> airmikey: Try reading the installation instructions. :)
[04:31] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, perhaps you should just try upgrading to breezy.
[04:31] <pussfeller> its a bottom end card
[04:31] <bz0b> neighborlee, yup!
[04:32] <shawnz> bz0b
[04:32] <pussfeller> its many times faster than the i810 onboard pos on this pos
[04:32] <shawnz> you can install kubuntu with an ubuntu cd :p
[04:32] <bz0b> yes shawnz?
[04:32] <Brazmetal> pussfeller: yes.. I know.. but mine gets 2832.400
[04:32] <bz0b> shawnz, how!
[04:32] <dabaR> Nice, and its not even midnight, and I installed myself mp4 support in cl.
[04:32] <vividan> is anyone using mythtv in ubuntu?
[04:32] <shawnz> and vice versa
[04:32] <shawnz> well
[04:32] <airmikey> if dont want to help jus stfu
[04:32] <shawnz> once its installed
[04:32] <shawnz> open a terminal
[04:32] <shawnz> type
[04:32] <taw> dabaR: you mean, like, not with apt ?
[04:32] <bz0b> i know
[04:32] <tritium> bz0b, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <bz0b> yaeh
[04:32] <shawnz> 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:32] <shawnz> yeah
[04:32] <bz0b> well that takes up more space
[04:32] <adiabatic> Is there an official Ubuntu-on-the-Mac channel here on freenode?
[04:32] <shawnz> then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <bz0b> oh
[04:32] <bz0b> haha
[04:32] <shawnz> then set kdm as default
[04:33] <Fiyawerx> thanks again for your help guys
[04:33] <shawnz> then reboot
[04:33] <dabaR> taw: the java as per web site, and the eclipse as per:
[04:33] <shawnz> :p
[04:33] <dabaR> !eclipse
[04:33] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[04:33] <pussfeller> Brazmetal: i think your card is much more powerful than mine, i only have 64 mbs of ram in it, and old drivers too
[04:33] <bz0b> !porn-get
[04:33] <ubotu> bz0b: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:33] <dabaR> bz0b: info...
[04:33] <shawnz> hm
[04:33] <Sonny_Wertzik> lemme ask ya this...what compilers and all other stuff do i need to install from package manager.. to have no hastles installing anything
[04:33] <vividan> !mythtv
[04:33] <ubotu> vividan: Wish i knew
[04:33] <dabaR> and, msg the bot.
[04:33] <taw> dabaR: i have java installed sun-j2sdk1.5 package
[04:33] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik.
[04:33] <bz0b> haha
[04:33] <shawnz> just build-essential
[04:33] <Sonny_Wertzik> i probably dont have something i need
[04:33] <shawnz> afaik
[04:33] <pussfeller> !ubuntu
[04:33] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[04:33] <Fiyawerx> should I dl 5.10?
[04:33] <bz0b> ubotu tell bz0b about porn-get
[04:33] <pussfeller> !linus
[04:33] <ubotu> pussfeller: What?
[04:34] <shawnz> Sonny_Wertzik: just build-essential.
[04:34] <Sonny_Wertzik> i did build eesntial and it seemed to work
[04:34] <Sonny_Wertzik> must i reebot
[04:34] <bz0b> !linux
[04:34] <ubotu> methinks linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:34] <bz0b> !bsd
[04:34] <ubotu> bz0b: Are you smoking crack?
[04:34] <shawnz> no Sonny_Wertzik
[04:34] <bz0b> hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[04:34] <pussfeller> !XP
[04:34] <ubotu> No idea, pussfeller
[04:34] <bz0b> !winblows
[04:34] <ubotu> bz0b: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:34] <BlueEagle> sonny_wertzik: The only time you "need to reboot" a linux machine is when installing a new kernel.
[04:35] <az[a] zel> ive deleted my mandrake installation, and im installing ubuntu hoary today as my main operating system
[04:35] <bz0b> !ubotu
[04:35] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[04:35] <shawnz> BlueEagle: or when you break it
[04:35] <shawnz> :p
[04:35] <pussfeller> or you have a kernel crash
[04:35] <az[a] zel> trying to get windows installed first though.. royal PITA
[04:35] <bz0b> !freebsd
[04:35] <ubotu> No idea, bz0b
[04:35] <lythia> az[a] zel you will be much happier~
[04:35] <bz0b> !bsd
[04:35] <ubotu> bz0b: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:35] <bz0b> !unix
[04:35] <ubotu> bz0b: Are you smoking crack?
[04:35] <pussfeller> or the ram gets over taken by the gui and gets all out of whack
[04:35] <pussfeller> but maybe they fixed that one
[04:35] <Fiyawerx> could anyone suggest downloading the iso for 5.04 or should i get the preview of 5.10?
[04:35] <shawnz> or when you pull whatever happened to me
[04:35] <BlueEagle> shawnz: It's hard to break a box (using binary packages atleast) to the point where rebooting is "the only way"(tm) to fix it.
[04:35] <shawnz> BlueEagle: tell that to my box.
[04:35] <az[a] zel> lythia: i've been playing with it on a test partition, so I know it's nice
[04:36] <dabaR> what, today is software freedom day?
[04:36] <shawnz> it broke so badly, i had to reboot, then it broke worse after reboot.
[04:36] <shawnz> :p
[04:36] <lythia> az[a] zel: I had issues with mandrake too
[04:36] <BlueEagle> shawnz: Ofcourse shady hardware helps make your system unstable. :)
[04:36] <DarkSoul> i was wondering if there was a page that shows all the compatible hardware that ubuntu suports...
[04:36] <shawnz> of course :)
[04:36] <BlueEagle> shawnz: Well, rebooting didn't fix much then. :) What caused the ailments?
[04:36] <shawnz> um
[04:36] <shawnz> well
[04:36] <bz0b> dabaR, no, today is flood ths channel with ubotu day :-)
[04:36] <shawnz> i think it was because I deleted my fonts foler or something like that.
[04:36] <dabaR> That is every day../:P
[04:37] <riskbreaker> hello fellas
[04:37] <bz0b> :P
[04:37] <riskbreaker> i have a question about the beta version of ubuntu 5.10
[04:37] <shawnz> all i know is nautilus started acting very funny after i copied a ttf file into /usr/share/fonts
[04:37] <riskbreaker> is there a way to update to it without downloading another iso?
[04:37] <shawnz> then everything started lagging to DEATH
[04:37] <dabaR> riskbreaker: great introduction...
[04:37] <bz0b> oh, then is it teach noobs about linux day? or is that everyday too?
[04:37] <shawnz> my friend said it was a socket problem or something
[04:37] <pussfeller> i dont think you can just drag fonts into a folder
[04:37] <tritium> riskbreaker, sure
[04:37] <shawnz> and the only option was rebooting
[04:37] <shawnz> so i did
[04:37] <shawnz> then x just lagged.
[04:37] <shawnz> didnt start.
[04:38] <shawnz> only terminal apps started.
[04:38] <BlueEagle> shawnz: That won't break your installation. Just might throw a monkeywrench in X. A simple re-installation of the fonts package should fix that. Easily done from the console. The trickiest part is figuring out which package that is. :)
[04:38] <kevogod> "Noob" is a buzzword for those who think they are better than others.
[04:38] <riskbreaker> ha.. i didn't think the question was that unreasonable, i wouldn't dare ask a question about the actual beta version hah
[04:38] <dabaR> tritium: sent him the upgrade2breezy factoid...
[04:38] <shawnz> BlueEagle: i reinstalled like
[04:38] <shawnz> SO many.
[04:38] <shawnz> xfonts-*
[04:38] <tritium> dabaR, :)
[04:38] <shawnz> and a bunch of other packages
[04:38] <pussfeller> theres nothing wrong with being a noob
[04:38] <dabaR> kevogod: and for newbies too, I never liked it...
[04:38] <shawnz> you know
[04:38] <tritium> shawnz, /usr/local/share/fonts would have been a better place for those
[04:39] <shawnz> i realize that now :p
[04:39] <shawnz> can anyone rar up /usr/share/fonts by any chance?
[04:39] <shawnz> i'll provide hosting if needed
[04:39] <hit0442> hello, i'm a newbie on linux and i have a question
[04:39] <nalioth> shawnz: we all can, but why?
[04:39] <nalioth> hit0442: ask
[04:39] <shawnz> because mine is bjorken.
[04:39] <riskbreaker> thanks, dabar
[04:40] <hit0442> i broke my HD in two parts...
[04:40] <hit0442> (sorry but my english sux)
[04:40] <shawnz> it will give me a chance to set up ftp on www.googlecommie.org aswell
[04:40] <hit0442> and i installed windows in C:
[04:40] <hit0442> how can i instal ubuntu in D:
[04:40] <shawnz> sigh
[04:40] <mik3> ok now that i am whoring my neighbors WIFI what can i install that is entertaining
[04:41] <BlueEagle> pussfeller: There's nothing wrong with being a newbie. Being a n00b is a bit different.
[04:41] <shawnz> hit0442: tell it to install to hda1.
[04:41] <nalioth> hit0442: is there anything on "D:" right now?
[04:41] <hit0442> nothing on D:
[04:41] <hit0442> but when i reboot
[04:41] <nalioth> hit0442: it is 'free space' ?
[04:41] <hit0442> it starts the ubuntu instalation
[04:41] <shawnz> yes
[04:41] <hit0442> and im afraid to lose my C: things
[04:41] <shawnz> thats because the ubuntu cd is in.
[04:41] <tritium> hit0442, /dev/hda2, not hda1
[04:41] <shawnz> hit0442:
[04:41] <shawnz> oh
[04:41] <pussfeller> mik3: nmap :)
[04:41] <BlueEagle> pussfeller: A newbie asks "Where can I find information about setting up my xorg.conf for dual screens" whilst a n00b sais "give me working xorg.conf plz!"
[04:41] <shawnz> thought it was 0based
[04:42] <shawnz> BlueEagle: *kiddie
[04:42] <hit0442> you are confusing me ppl @_@
[04:42] <riskbreaker> dabar, what does the bot mean when it says "if it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces"
[04:42] <shawnz> omg.
[04:42] <shawnz> hit0442.
[04:42] <shawnz> start the ubuntu setup.
[04:42] <hit0442> if i continue to install normally..
[04:42] <shawnz> when it askes how you want to partition
[04:42] <hit0442> will it ask the unity?
[04:42] <nalioth> shawnz: tritium: y'all are assuming a bit
[04:42] <shawnz> select 'do it manually'
[04:42] <boots> hi. Any comments on breezy with an ATI 9600 AIW (which I think translates as an RV350) -- ie. should I dist-upgrade?
[04:42] <shawnz> sigh
[04:42] <hit0442> i will try
[04:42] <shawnz> hit0442:
[04:43] <hit0442> ?
[04:43] <shawnz> 'hda2' is your D:
[04:43] <shawnz> 'hda1' is your C:
[04:43] <hit0442> hmm
[04:43] <hit0442> and?
[04:43] <shawnz> so don't install over hda1
[04:43] <hit0442> ok
[04:43] <shawnz> make sure you tell it to do it over hda2.
[04:43] <airmikey> whats the command to install kernel headers
[04:43] <hit0442> but it will ask me before it install the linux right?
[04:43] <shawnz> yes
[04:43] <hit0442> thx
[04:43] <riskbreaker> is that just the bot telling me that since breezy is still in beta, i shouldn't upgrade to it yet?
[04:43] <shawnz> you need to selet.
[04:43] <shawnz> 'partition manually'
[04:43] <shawnz> riskbreaker.
[04:43] <BlueEagle> boots: breezy is a preview. In my opinion that translates to, yes, you should upgrade if you want to preview it and no, you shouldn't upgrade if you need to ask if you should upgrade to a preview. :)
[04:43] <hit0442> i will try...
[04:44] <shawnz> its a beta. it works or it doesnt.
[04:44] <hit0442> Thank you ppl
[04:44] <nalioth> riskbreaker: that is what it's saying
[04:44] <shawnz> no one is going to offer support for it, so try it if you want
[04:44] <shawnz> well. someone might
[04:44] <pussfeller> there is a llist of known issues on the wiki
[04:44] <shawnz> but its not 'supported'
[04:44] <riskbreaker> well
[04:44] <riskbreaker> i'm aware that beta is risky.
[04:44] <pussfeller> which might give you some foreknowledge
[04:44] <mik3> ok now that i am whoring my neighbors WIFI what can i install that is entertaining
[04:44] <shawnz> riskbreaker: then try it if you must.
[04:44] <boots> BlueEagle: yeah -- I'm asking if I will get to preview -- ie. are the radeon drivers for X ready
[04:44] <shawnz> or get a LiveCD.
[04:44] <riskbreaker> i was just trying to figure out if the bot was being esoteric
[04:44] <pussfeller> what you mean entertaining
[04:44] <DaMi3n> mik3, did u get the resolution problem fixed??
[04:45] <pussfeller> you mean, useful in the circumstances taht someone else will get the blame?
[04:45] <brownie17> anyone, how do i acces my home folder while i am on the livecd? i want ot copy my files onto a cd so i can reinstall ubuntu
[04:45] <riskbreaker> "when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces" kinda confused me.
[04:45] <mik3> DaMi3n : yessir thanks
[04:45] <cvt> do i use cdemu to mount game iso's
[04:45] <cvt> ?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> boots: They may or may not be. As far as I know the latest xorg has got ATi drivers working.
[04:45] <cvt> or what do i do with game iso's?
[04:46] <BlueEagle> has anyone put together a feature-matrix for breezy vs hoary?
[04:46] <riskbreaker> well I will give it a shot since it seems like it might fix some of my qualms with hoary.
[04:46] <BlueEagle> s/feature/version/
[04:46] <shawnz> rofl:
[04:46] <shawnz> info: Writing node (dir)Top...
[04:46] <shawnz> File: dir	Node: Top	This is the top of the INFO tree
[04:46] <shawnz>   This (the Directory node) gives a menu of major topics.  Typing "d"
[04:46] <shawnz>   returns here, "q" exits, "?" lists all INFO commands, "h"  gives a
[04:46] <shawnz>   primer for first-timers, "mTexinfo<Return>" visits Texinfo topic,
[04:46] <shawnz>   etc.
[04:46] <zdennis> Getting Ubuntu to run smooth on a 128Mb laptop isn't real easy!
[04:46] <Orunitia> anyone know if there's a way to set qemu to start at a higher resolution?
[04:46] <boots> BlueEagle: cool. I'm just thinking that in a room with over 300 people, someone would know if it was worth attempting yet. I certainly don't mind if it still needs lots of hand holding. That's half the fun of a preview :) Thanks.
[04:46] <shawnz> S**T
[04:47] <shawnz> sorry.
[04:47] <brownie17> anyone, how do i acces my home folder while i am on the livecd? i want ot copy my files onto a cd so i can reinstall ubuntu
[04:47] <shawnz> stupid exec
[04:47] <shawnz> :(
[04:47] <tritium> shawnz...
[04:47] <zdennis> brownie, mount your root filesystem
[04:47] <shawnz> tritium?
[04:47] <shawnz> how much came out
[04:47] <brownie17> zdennis: how?
[04:47] <riskbreaker> thanks fellas
[04:47] <riskbreaker> oh, one more question.
[04:47] <brownie17> zdennis, brownie17=newbie
[04:47] <riskbreaker> how do you automate the mounting of a windows filesystem?
[04:47] <nalioth> !tell riskbreaker about ntfs
[04:48] <riskbreaker> like... so that i don't have to re-do it every time i boot ubuntu
[04:48] <pussfeller> !ntfs
[04:48] <BlueEagle> zdennis: Swap out gnome with a more light-weight window manager. icewm and fluxbox have been good to me in the past.
[04:48] <brownie17> nalioth: how do i mount my root filesystem?
[04:48] <shawnz> brownie17: open a root terminal and type 'mkdir /mnt/root && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/root'
[04:48] <shawnz> then your hard drive will be in the folder '/mnt/root'
[04:48] <nalioth> brownie17: are you burning with your liveCD?
[04:48] <riskbreaker> wow... that's quite the strange bot. helpful, though. thanks again
[04:49] <zdennis> BlueEagle, yeah icewm is what i am trying now =)
[04:49] <brownie17> nalioth: i don't carwe about buring , i just want to get it onto something, a flash disk maybe. but i need to acces those files
[04:49] <zdennis> i just got the laptop to boot w/o using any swap
[04:49] <brownie17> shawnz, it jut saud this ">"!!!
[04:49] <zdennis> ... who needs cups anyways!
[04:49] <nalioth> brownie17: shawnz has you covered
[04:49] <shawnz> BlueEagle: vtwm :p
[04:49] <tritium> zdennis, so now you can't hibernate
[04:49] <Orunitia> anyone know if there's a way to set qemu to start at a higher resolution?
[04:49] <BlueEagle> zdennis: For a file manager to compliment IceWm you might want to try rox filer.
[04:49] <zdennis> cups = hibernate?
[04:49] <zdennis> cups = unix printing?
[04:49] <shawnz> brownie17: try this.
[04:49] <shawnz> sudo -i bash
[04:49] <tritium> zdennis, you have no swap space on the laptop?
[04:50] <shawnz> mkdir /mnt/hda1
[04:50] <zdennis> tritium, no i do. I have lots of it
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> Who thinks leaking filenames and sizes attached to e-mails that you can't normally see is a bad thing?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> zdennis: cups = common something-starting-with-u printing system
[04:50] <shawnz> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[04:50] <zdennis> tritium, but it is not being used
[04:50] <BlueEagle> or something like that.
[04:50] <brownie17> shawnz, cannot execute bianry file
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> Anyone?
[04:50] <shawnz> O.o
[04:50] <shawnz> brownie17: after which command
[04:50] <tritium> zdennis, okay, good.  It would be used if you hibernate
[04:50] <BlueEagle> common unix printing system?
[04:50] <zdennis> tritium, yay once i figure out how-to that on this laptop i will try it out. =)
[04:51] <dabaR> the kernel version 2.6.10, a.k.a. Woozy Numbat?! heh...I guess its not just ubuntu on a safari...
[04:51] <brownie17> shawnz, i trie that mount /dev thing it said "you must secifiy the filesystem type"
[04:51] <shawnz> agh
[04:51] <shawnz> hold on
[04:51] <shawnz> which filesystem is it do you know?
[04:51] <shawnz> ext3?
[04:51] <brownie17> shawnz, im fairly sure its ext3, but it might be ext2
[04:52] <brownie17> shawnz, i forget, i am isntallihg left right and center recently
[04:52] <shawnz> sigh
[04:52] <pussfeller> mount /dev/hda1 -o -t ext3  /mnt/hda1
[04:52] <pussfeller> aint it
[04:52] <shawnz> thats the one
[04:52] <shawnz> -t ext3
[04:52] <BlueEagle> brownie17: cat /proc/filesystems
[04:52] <shawnz> forgot the switch
[04:52] <zdennis> BlueEagle / tritium... what file do i need to edit so icewm starts up?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> brownie17: That will show you which filesystems are currently supported.
[04:52] <BlueEagle> zdennis: using startx?
[04:52] <nalioth> zdennis: have you installed icewm?
[04:52] <tritium> zdennis, sorry, I've never used it
[04:52] <shawnz> zdennis: in gdm, select 'icewm' as your session
[04:53] <shawnz> it will ask you if you want to use it as default
[04:53] <shawnz> click yeah
[04:53] <BlueEagle> zdennis: ~/.xinitrc
[04:53] <shawnz> ..
[04:53] <zdennis> yeah, ice is installed
[04:53] <brownie17> shawnz, well i now think it is ext2, so what do i do?
[04:53] <shawnz> sigh
[04:53] <shawnz> okay brownie17
[04:53] <shawnz> sudo -i bash
[04:53] <nalioth> zdennis: at your login screen, you should see a 'sessions' button
[04:53] <BlueEagle> zdennis: Are you starting X with the startx command or a graphical login?
[04:53] <zdennis> ah .xinitrc....i think that was the one i wasloooking for. will try, thx
[04:53] <shawnz> no
[04:53] <zdennis> i disabled gdm from starting
[04:53] <shawnz> dont use .xinitrc.
[04:53] <zdennis> i boot into text mode =)
[04:53] <shawnz> oh
[04:53] <shawnz> then
[04:53] <shawnz> yeah, xinitrc.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> shawnz: There you go. Don't assume. :)
[04:54] <shawnz> pft
[04:54] <shawnz> :(
[04:54] <pussfeller> can i run cfdisk on a mounted disk, if the partition isnt mounted?
[04:54] <shawnz> caught me off guard
[04:54] <tritium> zdennis, how did you disable gdm?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> shawnz: ;D *huggles in a non-gayish fasion*
[04:54] <brownie17> shawnz, sudo -i bash does nothing
[04:54] <nalioth> pussfeller: ys
[04:54] <brownie17> shawnz, just gives me binary file error
[04:54] <shawnz> brownie17: thats normal
[04:54] <pussfeller> the part i wanna change
[04:54] <shawnz> oh
[04:54] <shawnz> then
[04:54] <brownie17> shawnz, ok
[04:54] <shawnz> just sudo bash
[04:54] <brownie17> shawnz, gives me root
[04:54] <shawnz> there we go
[04:54] <shawnz> now
[04:55] <shawnz> mkdir /mnt/root
[04:55] <zdennis> tritium, you can run update-rc.d -f gdm remove     to make it to not start at all
[04:55] <brownie17> mkdir m/mnt/root
[04:55] <tritium> zdennis, right.  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[04:55] <BlueEagle> zdennis: Got some cool stuff to put in there if you want.
[04:55] <zdennis> or you can just remove the S20gdm script in the associated /etc/rcX.d directory
[04:55] <shawnz> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/root
[04:55] <shawnz> then that ^
[04:55] <brownie17> shawnz, didn't give me error
[04:55] <shawnz> okay
[04:55] <shawnz> then that ^
[04:55] <shawnz> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/root
[04:55] <zdennis> BlueEagle, hook me up =)
[04:55] <brownie17> sg sayd specifiy filesystem
[04:55] <shawnz> okay
[04:55] <shawnz> then
[04:56] <shawnz> mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/root
[04:56] <shawnz> or 2 or whatever
[04:56] <brownie17> shawnz, "mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[04:56] <shawnz> O.O
[04:56] <shawnz> try just hda then :/
[04:56] <shawnz> or hda0
[04:57] <brownie17> shawnz, allready mounted
[04:57] <shawnz> okay
[04:57] <shawnz> now
[04:57] <shawnz> type 'mount'
[04:57] <shawnz> look for /dev/hda.
[04:57] <shawnz> in that list
[04:57] <shawnz> and tell me the second path there
[04:58] <brownie17> shawnz, it didn't say /dev/hda anywhere
[04:58] <shawnz> lol
[04:58] <shawnz> :(
[04:58] <tritium> smile, shawnz :)
[04:58] <shawnz> ok
[04:59] <shawnz> :)
[04:59] <brownie17> shawnz, it didnt come up with /dev/hda anywher
[04:59] <shawnz> brownie17: which device did you try when it said it was already mounted
[04:59] <shawnz> which /dev/*
[04:59] <airmikey> if running dual chips do i need to do anything in paticular for ubuntu to run better
[04:59] <brownie17> shawnz, /dev/hda
[04:59] <shawnz> hmm
[04:59] <shawnz> okay.
[05:00] <shawnz> 'cd /mnt'
[05:00] <shawnz> 'ls'
[05:00] <brownie17> shawnz, just says "root" in blue text
[05:00] <nalioth> airmikey: smp kernels usually make 2 processors run better
[05:00] <shawnz> cd root
[05:00] <shawnz> ls
[05:00] <tritium> !tritium
[05:00] <ubotu> it has been said that tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen
[05:00] <shawnz> hehe
[05:01] <brownie17> shawnz, gave me nothing
[05:01] <shawnz> well
[05:01] <shawnz> okay
[05:01] <shawnz> can you PM me the entire 'mount' list?
[05:01] <Xorlev> Or use the #flood channel
[05:01] <shawnz> that works
[05:01] <brownie17> shawnz, ok, um which one was that?
[05:01] <shawnz> when you type 'mount'
[05:01] <D1> can anyone recommend a good linux compatible scanner?
[05:01] <shawnz> with no params
[05:02] <vader1102> D1 I use the HP PSC 750 all in one and it work great
[05:02] <Vexir> hey guys.
[05:02] <lukins> D1 anything from hp, if you google it, hp has said that all their peripherals will work under ubuntu
[05:02] <D1> hmm, interesting.
[05:02] <Vexir> ... speaking of printers
[05:02] <brownie17> D1, i use the canoscan lide 30, and there is not a single linux driver out there for it :)
[05:02] <lukins> D1 should work by breezy release
[05:02] <Vexir> even if i dont know the name of the printer
[05:02] <Vexir> on the network
[05:03] <Vexir> if i get thr ight driver
[05:03] <D1> eh, all in one is nice, but Im looking for just a scanner.
[05:03] <Vexir> and i get the pc its connected to right
[05:03] <Vexir> will it still work
[05:03] <Sym|Away> D1, the PSC 1610 works great (plus the last time I checked it was on sale from HP)
[05:03] <Xorlev> Okies, riddle me this: When I pause songs in XMMS, I unpause them and it doesn't unpause, it just goes a second further (no sound), and skips to the next song (or sometimes just sticks there until I press play, which restarts the song or next, a new song).
[05:03] <Vexir> PSC 2110 owns all...
[05:03] <brownie17> xorlev, get a new player :). nah kidding
[05:03] <Sym|Away> It's just too bad that HPLIP doesn't work very well with XSane (IE XSane with Gimp)
[05:03] <Fiyawerx> lukins: good news, re: hp periphs
[05:03] <brownie17> Xorlev, i got no idea
[05:04] <brownie17> shawnz, that good?
[05:04] <shawnz> yes
[05:04] <brownie17> shawnz, i pm'd it to you
[05:04] <shawnz> yes i see
[05:04] <lukins> xorlev, try downloading beep-media-player, looks exactly like xmms but built for gnome
[05:04] <Xorlev> I can use the progress bar to change the position of the song, so I'm really confuzzled.
[05:04] <tritium> D1, hplip packages are installed by default in breezy for nearly all, if not all, HP scanners etc.
[05:04] <Xorlev> lukins: I don't use GNOME, so I don't use beep media player.
[05:04] <Xorlev> Other than the pause problem, I love XMMS.
[05:04] <D1> is that part of sane/xsane?
[05:05] <Fiyawerx> is there any reason not to use the preview release?
[05:05] <Mez> hmm, can anyone help me with mozilla thunderbird message filters
[05:05] <brownie17> shawnz, do you know what to do?
[05:05] <shawnz> brownie17: mount -t ext3 /dev/hda0 /mnt/root
[05:05] <Sym|Away> D1, it's easier just to use HPOJ.
[05:05] <Xorlev> Fiyawerx: Some things are a bit buggy,
[05:05] <shawnz> says its mounted already?
[05:05] <mik3> does gimp have filters like adobe eyecandy etc?
[05:05] <Sym|Away> D1, I use HPLIP but HPOJ takes less configuration.
[05:05] <zorba64> fellas can you look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2056 and tell me the prob...is this data corruption?
[05:05] <brownie17> shawnz, does not exist
[05:06] <shawnz> okay
[05:06] <Sym|Away> However, HPLIP has more features.
[05:06] <D1> http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?ts=1125432569030&storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&productId=134522#desclink
[05:06] <shawnz> just hda then
[05:06] <D1> I want taht
[05:06] <shawnz> waaaa, i miss X.
[05:06] <D1> but its said to not work in linux
[05:06] <mik3> quick: everyone tell me their favorite applications for me to insall
[05:06] <shawnz> vlc.
[05:06] <shawnz> smeg
[05:06] <shawnz> uhhhhh
[05:06] <brownie17> shawnz, says allreadyd mounted or busy
[05:06] <shawnz> okay
[05:06] <nalioth> mik3: please. just install all of them
[05:06] <shawnz> that's really odd.
[05:06] <lukins> can anyone point me to how i can connect my computer to my laptop with an ethernet cable?
[05:06] <shawnz> maybe someone can help you
[05:06] <Sym|Away> Limewire!
[05:06] <shawnz> i dunno as of now.
[05:06] <brownie17> shawnz, i got another prolbem
[05:06] <shawnz> Shareaza.
[05:06] <dabaR> riskbreaker: well, it means that it will break your system, perhaps, and you cant ask him for help, or blame anyone but yourself, something along those lines..
[05:07] <shawnz> not limewire :(
[05:07] <shawnz> brownie17: ?
[05:07] <Sym|Away> lukins, all it should take is a cross over cable.
[05:07] <brownie17> shawnz, when i start up normal, it says cannot start X, problem with your config file
[05:07] <shawnz> well
[05:07] <shawnz> that means you broke your X config file
[05:07] <shawnz> :p
[05:07] <brownie17> shawnz, i tried my backup file, still said it. do i have to reinstall?
[05:07] <brownie17> shawnz,  :) i know that
[05:07] <SymGeosis> shawnz, I didn't even know there was a linux version of shareeza.
[05:07] <shawnz> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[05:07] <dabaR> shawnz: please stop hitting the enter key so much, try sending messages, its not IM...
[05:07] <lukins> SymGeosis, do you mean a regular cable, and you mean I just have to plug it in?
[05:07] <shawnz> i think is the command
[05:07] <nalioth> brownie17: nope
[05:07] <mik3> ok what's vlc
[05:07] <liable> err xserver-xorg
[05:07] <shawnz> ah
[05:07] <shawnz> that.
[05:08] <nalioth> lukins:  a crossover cable has the wires backwards, so you dont have to use a router or switch
[05:08] <mik3> nalioth : don't hate on my tactically acquired neighbor's 802.11g
[05:08] <nalioth> lukins: so you can connect directly one puter to the other
[05:08] <pussfeller> you need a special cable for nic to nic connections, called a cross over cable, radio shack sells em
[05:08] <brownie17> nalioth, shawnz, package xorg-xserver is not installed and no info is available
[05:08] <tritium> brownie17, xserver-xorg
[05:08] <Gobbla> can you play nsv some way?
[05:08] <nalioth> brownie17: that's why x wont start, it's out to lunch
[05:08] <tritium> Gobbla, what is nsv?
[05:09] <SymGeosis> brownie17, have you tried xorgcfg -text-mode ?
[05:09] <tritium> no, no
[05:09] <lukins> nalioth, and it should just work, plugging it in?
[05:09] <shawnz> mik3: ClamAv aswell
[05:09] <Gobbla> winamps video format
[05:09] <mik3> k
[05:09] <Gobbla> tritium:
[05:09] <mik3> what's ClamAv
[05:09] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, brownie17
[05:09] <shawnz> mik3: antivirus
[05:09] <dabaR> mik3: google.
[05:09] <mik3> dabaR : never
[05:09] <mik3> ignorance is bliss
[05:09] <nalioth> lukins: both computers need to have their IP addresses set manually
[05:09] <dabaR> mik3: heh. Seriously, tho, google can tell you what it is.
[05:09] <SymGeosis> mik3, clamAV is an anti-virus suite.
[05:10] <shawnz> well
[05:10] <mik3> ah ok
[05:10] <shawnz> not so much suite
[05:10] <SymGeosis> Hence, "AV". ;-)
[05:10] <shawnz> just a terminal scanner
[05:10] <dabaR> mik3: I used to do that, till I broke my system...
[05:10] <lukins> nalitoth and others thanks!
[05:10] <shawnz> oh poo, im pressing enter too much again arent I'
[05:10] <SymGeosis> shawnz, I know, but I'm doing like seven things at once so give me a break. =)
[05:10] <dabaR> its ok, youll get a hang of it. shawnz.
[05:10] <SymGeosis> <- Multi-tasking.
[05:11] <brownie17> tritium, you were right :) good man. smart man. have a pat on the back
[05:11] <tritium> brownie17, it worked?  :)
[05:11] <shawnz> SymGeosis: multitasking?
[05:11] <Vexir> shawnz: Yes it means doing multiple things at the same time :-p
[05:11] <SymGeosis> shawnz, you know that thing where you do *lots* of things at once. =P
[05:12] <brownie17> haven't tried it but the config winzard is runbning
[05:12] <Vexir> SymGeosis: Owned....
[05:12] <mik3> does gimp have any filtes?
[05:12] <shawnz> SymGeosis: yes i know what it is.... read the next line ;p
[05:12] <mik3> filters
[05:12] <tritium> yes, mik3
[05:12] <Vexir> shawnz: What in hey is a formbomb??
[05:12] <nalioth> mik3: gimp uses photoshop filters
[05:12] <Xorlev> Aha, an ALSA module problem, fixed in a patch. Seems I have to recompile it.
[05:12] <shawnz> Vexir: recursivly runs a funcion
[05:13] <shawnz> which starts itself twice
[05:13] <mik3> how about free filters
[05:13] <tritium> yes, mik3
[05:13] <mik3> names please
[05:13] <shawnz> :(){ :|: };: <- forkbomb
[05:13] <mik3> not your name
[05:13] <tritium> there you go, mik3
[05:13] <mik3> names of he filter
[05:13] <nalioth> mik3: ask uncle google, he can show you
[05:13] <tritium> ;)
[05:14] <mik3> nalioth : uncle google tried to touch me in a special place
[05:14] <nalioth> mik3: there are thousands of them
[05:14] <shawnz> rofl
[05:14] <dabaR> mik3: did you feel all special?
[05:14] <corza> hi guys; how stable is breezy (latest).. and seems its a preview if i install it will i have to uninstall it once the release comes out?
[05:14] <mik3> no, i felt sad. i pee'd a little
[05:14] <mik3> haha
[05:14] <shawnz> someone tar --recursive /usr/share/fonts for me please :(
[05:15] <transgress> is there a way to tell acpi to bugger the fuck off?  it keeps causing my friend's screen to have a popup that goes away fairly quickly that says "LCD OFF"
[05:15] <linner> hey ya'll
[05:15] <tritium> transgress, language please
[05:15] <linner> can someone please tell me where the systray is????
[05:15] <linner> i'm sure that sounds like a crazy question... but i absolutely can not find it
[05:15] <dabaR> linner: where you put it, its linux...
[05:16] <shawnz> linner, there isnt one. however, there is a Redhat Notification Area in the bottom right corner.
[05:16] <dabaR> linner: why are you looking for it, tell us some context...
[05:16] <linner> dabaR, um... i didn't put it anywhere
[05:16] <linner> dabaR, sure... i just downloaded kcheckmail to check my gmail
[05:16] <dabaR> if you installed gnome, and the default ubuntu install, and have not changed anything...it is in the top right.
[05:16] <dabaR> you use kde?
[05:16] <linner> dabaR, and it told me it is in the systray
[05:16] <transgress> tritium: yeah sorry.  but any help would be great?  it's really getting on my nerves.
[05:16] <mik3> hey vlc is neat, now all of my porn has audio
[05:17] <linner> dabaR, hmmm....
[05:17] <linner> i wonder why I don't see the icon then
[05:17] <dabaR> linner: use kde?
[05:17] <shawnz> lol mik3 :D
[05:17] <corza> hi guys; how stable is breezy (latest).. and seems its a preview if i install it will i have to uninstall it once the release comes out?
[05:17] <linner> no gnome
[05:17] <tritium> mik3, give it a rest
[05:17] <dabaR> linner: isnt kcheckmail a kde app?
[05:17] <vanberge> dabaR, he probably is running a kde app in gnome
[05:17] <linner> Um... that's a great question.  I would assueme it wouldn't show up in synaptic
[05:18] <liable> corza: uninstall it? no.
[05:18] <dabaR> btw, the system tray in gnome is called the notification area. You will notice it if you open gaim, and click the close button.
[05:18] <linner> vanberge, I'm a girl ;)
[05:18] <Vexir> just wondering, but when breezy becomes an official release, how do you upgrade Ubuntu? or does synaptic do it...
[05:18] <vanberge> linner, my apologies...   very sorry.  :-)
[05:18] <dabaR> linner: it does show up in synaptic, regardless.
[05:18] <iJeff> what's synaptic?
[05:18] <linner> vanberge, no worries... easy mistake
[05:18] <corza> liable: so it will just update what's needed once the release comes out?
[05:18] <iJeff> oh the update application?
[05:18] <linner> iJeff, it's the software installation manager
[05:18] <tritium> !tell iJeff about synaptic
[05:18] <liable> corza: yes.
[05:18] <linner> dabaR, it does...? oh....
[05:18] <linner> hmmm....
[05:18] <shawnz> Vexir: you could always try updating your apt sources to breezy and updating ubuntu-base... but that would probably screw up more than it fixes :p
[05:19] <corza> liable: okay sweet as, i am switching back to ubuntu seems that now Cedega supports Guild Wars a lot better :)
[05:19] <linner> i thought it would show only programs ubuntu could load and run
[05:19] <mik3> what is the ubuntu limewire equivalant and is there a drag and what is a popular drag and drop styled ftp client
[05:19] <tritium> corza, you'll just have to change some repo settings
[05:19] <nalioth> shawnz: Vexir: definitely screw more up then fix
[05:19] <shawnz> yep
[05:19] <shawnz> :p
[05:19] <dabaR> linner: yes, and, the system tray is called the notification area. You may be experiencing this issue because of running a kde app in gnome. I do not know for a fact, though.
[05:19] <corza> tritium: thats piss =D
[05:19] <nalioth> mik3: gtk-gnutella
[05:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hi...who was i talking to before about xine...?
[05:19] <Vexir> shawnz: nalioth: so i have to do a fresh install? theres no upgrade type thing?
[05:19] <linner> dabaR, I just uninstalled it...
[05:19] <tritium> nalioth, it's not so bad on non-powerpc ;)
[05:19] <dabaR> I think I said that about it being called the notification area b4:)
[05:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> u shawnz?
[05:19] <airmikey> trying to load vmware ...but asking for c header
[05:20] <shawnz> airmikey: which c header.
[05:20] <corza> guys how good is the partitioning on the installer (for dual boot etc)?
[05:20] <dabaR> Sonny_Wertzik: you were talking to #ubuntu:P
[05:20] <corza> reliable?
[05:20] <linner> dabaR, do you know of a ubuntu page that shows recommends software installs?
[05:20] <shawnz> sigh
[05:20] <nalioth> tritium: be nice
[05:20] <tritium> heh
[05:20] <shawnz> here comes the 'M$' stuff again
[05:20] <mik3> iJeff : you don't like fbsd?
[05:20] <vanberge> iJeff, im kind of surprised that there isnt an itunes port for linux... since mac os runs on a similar kernel
[05:20] <airmikey> its jus asking for c header
[05:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh...man i just want to say thanx to u guyz!
[05:20] <linner> vanberge, I agree!
[05:20] <dabaR> linner: not necessarily...I dont.
[05:20] <shawnz> airmikey.
[05:21] <shawnz> which one?
[05:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> u guyz just made my year
[05:21] <linner> dabaR, do you have a gmail account?
[05:21] <tritium> yay, Sonny_Wertzik :)
[05:21] <linner> if so how do you check it?
[05:21] <dabaR> linner: yes, why?
[05:21] <CubicVirtuoso> I got a quesiton. I installed 5.10.. but I want to go back to the previous version is there ayway of doing that?
[05:21] <SymGeosis> shawnz, you get my PM's? You still need that tar?
[05:21] <shawnz> yes
[05:21] <linner> i should say how to you receive notification of msgs?
[05:21] <shawnz> i said yes in the pm didnt I...
[05:21] <mik3> anyone care to suggest a drag and drop ftp client for ubuntu
[05:21] <shawnz> O.o
[05:21] <dabaR> linner: ah, I use the browser:P
[05:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> i was missing so much stuff for compiling it wasnt even funny
[05:21] <tritium> mik3, gftp
[05:21] <shawnz> SymGeosis: didn't I say yes in the pm
[05:21] <linner> dabaR, smart a$$ :)
[05:21] <shawnz> or is irssi broken
[05:21] <SymGeosis> shawnz, I'm too lazy to man it. You copy and paste the command?
[05:21] <shawnz> okay
[05:21] <shawnz> sec
[05:21] <SymGeosis> shawnz, I didn't get any pm...
[05:21] <linner> dabaR, yes I do that too once I know there's a message
[05:22] <nmstryoda> boy, what a lot of chatter tonight
[05:22] <CubicVirtuoso> i love ubuntu :)
[05:22] <SymGeosis> shawnz, if you aren't authed you may not be able to send PMs...
[05:22] <CubicVirtuoso> everyone does
[05:22] <shawnz> ah
[05:22] <shawnz> okay
[05:22] <shawnz> nickserv? ill register
[05:22] <nalioth> Sonny_Wertzik: the box of a linux developer needs lots and lots of extras
[05:22] <c0rrup7> hi @ll
[05:22] <linner> hey c0rrup7
[05:22] <dabaR> linner: ubuntuforums.org was proclaimed to be the best support option for linux this year at arstechnica, as I just found out. I also think they must have something about it as well. ubuntuforums.org, and search for gmail notification, or so...
[05:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i get that now..but its hard to know what ya need till ya need it...ya know
[05:23] <mik3> has anyone else here had problems with apt connecting to the sites that begin with http://archive?
[05:23] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, not every user wants all the development stuff, so it's not installed by default
[05:23] <linner> dabaR, thank you!
[05:23] <dabaR> sure. later.
[05:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i can understand that
[05:23] <shawnz> SymGeosis: im registered with nickserv.
[05:23] <ksmurf> is there a way to output an lspci or lomod to a txt file?
[05:23] <linner> dabar: I got the link... thank you!
[05:23] <tritium> ksmurf, pipe it
[05:23] <linner> I'll go check it out now
[05:23] <tritium> I mean redirect it
[05:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> i've only been using linux for 2 days now but i dig it
[05:23] <ksmurf> tritium ::: more?
[05:24] <gorilla> ksmurf, redirect it... command > results.txt
[05:24] <tritium> ksmurf, lsmod > crap.txt
[05:24] <vanberge> Sonny_Wertzik, are you dual booting 1 hd ?
[05:24] <nalioth> tritium: stir it around and stick it to the wall
[05:24] <ksmurf> thanks
[05:24] <intelikey> ksmurf "{command} > file.name "
[05:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> yes dual boot
[05:24] <vanberge> cool...  glad you like it ;-)
[05:24] <c0rrup7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55758&highlight=gmail+notification
[05:25] <c0rrup7> if thats what u wanted
[05:25] <c0rrup7> for evolution
[05:25] <intelikey> ksmurf if you want the error messages also  add " 2>&1 "  to the end of that.
[05:25] <linner> here's another question folks... what's the difference between KDE and GNOME... how do you know which one you want?
[05:25] <SymGeosis> shawnz, you identify your self with nickserv yet?
[05:25] <linner> c0rrup7, thank you!
[05:25] <linner> very much so
[05:25] <c0rrup7> np
[05:25] <mik3> gftp is tastey
[05:25] <Vexir> ugh
[05:25] <c0rrup7> i have the plugin for firefox installed :)
[05:25] <mik3> what else are some neato appliations
[05:26] <vanberge> linner, they are just different window managers... some people favor one, some people favor the other, some favor neither
[05:26] <themot> airmikey:  look at this lin for vmware ... there are a few things you will need to install with apt or synaptic  http://www.tuxme.com/node/536
[05:26] <themot> link that is
[05:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> at least i can watch movies now while i set up other stuff
[05:26] <vanberge> linner, before i used ubuntu, i favored fluxbox
[05:26] <ksmurf> trilium gorilla and intelikey thanks.  it worked and I learned something
[05:26] <c0rrup7> ah gftp... it showed in the description to support sftp ... but it didn't though
[05:26] <linner> vanberge, i figured that part... but i wanted to know how one would choose
[05:26] <nalioth> linner: there are dozens of desktop manglers (KDE and gnome are the two with the largest following)
[05:26] <linner> fluxbox?
[05:26] <linner> hmmm
[05:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> xine 0.99.3 was glitchy
[05:26] <linner> nalioth, oh okay
[05:26] <linner> before i came to ubuntu i was using linspire
[05:27] <vanberge> linner, you could easily switch between the two to see which you like better  :-)
[05:27] <linner> it was fine but i find ubuntu much easier to get
[05:27] <tritium> mik3, search around in synaptic for yourself
[05:27] <nalioth> linner: there are also enlightenment, xfce4, *oox, xpde, and many others
[05:27] <linner> vanberge, oh you can?
[05:27] <linner> hmmm
[05:27] <linner> interesting
[05:27] <benkong2> is there a package that will give me a cool boot screen like in Suse and FC4 that can be verbose or simple for Unintu?
[05:27] <vanberge> linner, have you used synaptic yet?
[05:27] <linner> nalioth, gosh.. i never knew that
[05:27] <linner> vanberge, yes... LOVE It....
[05:27] <themot> !vmware
[05:27] <ubotu> No idea, themot
[05:27] <themot> bad bot... no botsnack
[05:27] <mik3> tritium : there's nothing wrong with getting suggestions from fellow ubuntu users.
[05:27] <Vexir> lol
[05:27] <Vexir> is there a WINE faq anywhere
[05:28] <Vexir> or is that like..
[05:28] <Vexir> in the WIKI
[05:28] <vanberge> linner, see the section that says 'KDE Desktop Environment' ?
[05:28] <linner> when i used linspire that's the part I hated... no Synaptic... they only had a pay-only CNR
[05:28] <tritium> mik3, there's nothing wrong with helping yourself either
[05:28] <BlueEagle> !wine
[05:28] <linner> vanberge, ok
[05:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> BRB..going for a smoke
[05:28] <linner> give me just a minute
[05:28] <linner> i'll go look
[05:28] <mik3> tritium : i agree, so don't insinuate that's how i feel
[05:28] <BlueEagle> !tell vexir about wine
[05:28] <tritium> mik3, take it easy
[05:29] <mik3> heh, likewise.
[05:29] <mik3> BlueEagle : hello sir
[05:29] <mik3> or madaam
[05:29] <vanberge> linner, i havent done this in awhile...  also assuming that HD space isnt a huge concern... you could just select "kdebase' to install, and then synaptic will mark all the dependencies for you.
[05:29] <linner> vanberge, where do i find KDE Desktop Environment - I have the pkg mgr open now
[05:29] <vanberge> somebody correct me if im wrong, please
[05:29] <BlueEagle> mik3: Hello mik3. (and it's more dude than sir or madam I guess) :p
[05:29] <vanberge> KDE should have an entire section, on the left hand side....
[05:29] <cafuego> vanberge: 'kubuntu-desktop'
[05:29] <linner> what would be the advantage to using KDE though?
[05:30] <linner> vanberge, I'm using Breezy... I don't see that section :(
[05:30] <cafuego> linner: Poeple who prefer KDe would have the advantage of running their preferred desktop.
[05:30] <nalioth> !tell linner about sources
[05:30] <themot> !kde
[05:30] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[05:30] <linner> cafuego, yes I saw that webpage actually
[05:30] <c0rrup7> linner in synaptic
[05:30] <vanberge> linner, then see cafuego 's line
[05:30] <vanberge> :-)
[05:30] <c0rrup7> not the app installer
[05:30] <linner> hmmm...
[05:31] <c0rrup7> np
[05:31] <vanberge> linner, system > administration > synaptic package manager
[05:31] <linner> vanberge, I've got the pkg mgr open
[05:31] <c0rrup7> i just did the switch myself 2 days ago
[05:31] <linner> I know how to navigate to it
[05:31] <vanberge> your sure it is synaptic?
[05:31] <linner> thank you though
[05:31] <airmikey> ok whos was helpin me with vmware....sorry my battery died on laptop
[05:31] <cafuego> !info kubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <linner> vanberge, yes
[05:31] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Very good answer. :)
[05:31] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[05:31] <Gobbla> does anybody know if there is a way to play nsv files on linux?
[05:32] <themot> linner: think of synaptic as add/remove programs in a way
[05:32] <cafuego> Yes, it's in synaptic.
[05:32] <c0rrup7> airmikey, what was your question concerning vmware ?
[05:32] <linner> themot, yeah... that's the prime reason I really like Ubuntu... :)  SOmething familiar! :)
[05:32] <linner> oh yeah ... and it rocks!
[05:32] <linner> )
[05:32] <linner> :)
[05:32] <c0rrup7> yup really neato os
[05:32] <vanberge> linner, did you see cafuego's line above?
[05:32] <cafuego> BlueEagle: yes, I left out the bit where they would be severely misguided or need to have brain damage;-)
[05:32] <vanberge> kubuntu desktop
[05:33] <test34> when I try to start sshd I get a failed error.. (I'm using breezy..) but I can't see why in the  logs
[05:33] <c0rrup7> i just have probs with nvidia and raid ... :/
[05:33] <linner> I think so... the one about synaptic?
[05:33] <linner> yes
[05:33] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', 'y' ... wait...
[05:33] <BlueEagle> cafuego: or spare resources?
[05:33] <themot> c0rrup7:  airmikey needs to install gcc and kernel headers ...same issue i had when i was first learning
[05:33] <vanberge> kubuntu = kde ubuntu
[05:33] <nalioth> test34: obvious question: is it installed?
[05:33] <cafuego> BlueEagle: As of yesterday I don't have desktops with less then 1GB ram ;-)
[05:33] <intelikey> Gobbla i'm not familear with "nsv" format, but i'm sure that at least minimal support is avalable.
[05:33] <linner> cafuego, okay will do that too
[05:33] <test34> nalioth, yes
[05:33] <c0rrup7> ah i c, well that part i had done in less than 30 minutes
[05:33] <cafuego> BlueEagle: I'm sure the amd64 would handle a couple of users running KDe remotely.
[05:33] <themot> or source...i may be using wrong terminology
[05:34] <BlueEagle> cafuego: I don't like you anymore... *sob*
[05:34] <c0rrup7> install the packages via synaptic
[05:34] <nalioth> test34: breezy is still rough around the edges
[05:34] <BlueEagle> hehe
[05:34] <linner> nalioth, I look forward to the released version
[05:34] <linner> :)
[05:34] <c0rrup7> what version vmware and hoary or breezy ?
[05:34] <cafuego> BlueEagle: Well, we had to do *something* with the ram from the mac mini.
[05:34] <nmstryoda> nalioth, what edges?
[05:34] <nmstryoda> =)
[05:34] <vanberge> i am running hoary still... waiting for official release.
[05:34] <themot> 5.04 and vmware5
[05:34] <vanberge> hopefully upgrade will be smooth :-)
[05:34] <themot> i tried vm 4.5 and had issues
[05:34] <test34> nalioth, open-ssh-client and open-ssh-server and ssh
[05:34] <linner> what do you guys recommend for listening to podcasts
[05:34] <nalioth> nmstryoda: my ibook is still in rough condition with breezy
[05:35] <c0rrup7> ok should be fine themot
[05:35] <cafuego> linner: ears
[05:35] <nmstryoda> themot, i can't get vmware5 to work on ubuntu
[05:35] <linner> cafuego, funny
[05:35] <nmstryoda> nalioth, LOL
[05:35] <nmstryoda> k
[05:35] <linner> :)
[05:35] <kev_> i'm trying to get an ati tv-wonder ve working. i have the bttv module loading, and i'm telling it tuner=2 (for philips ntsc tuner). this is confirmed by dmesg but it does not report the NTSC tuner by i2c-core. any suggestions?
[05:35] <c0rrup7> vmware works flawlessly for me on 5.04
[05:35] <themot> nmstryoda: try this link, it's brief but may get you pointed in the right direction   http://www.tuxme.com/node/536
[05:36] <linner> cafuego, seriously... now... what do you listen to podcasts with... WHICH SOFTWARE.... :)
[05:36] <linner> vanberge, I can honestly say YES I do...
[05:36] <linner> did it last night
[05:36] <vanberge> :-)
[05:36] <cafuego> linner: You're making the wrong assumption.
[05:36] <c0rrup7> at least VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz
[05:36] <c0rrup7>  does
[05:36] <linner> cafuego, huh?
[05:36] <PovRayMan> I'm loving Ubuntu so much.
[05:36] <themot> my vmware runs like a scalded dog
[05:37] <PovRayMan> I installed 5.04 the other day and it runs like a dream.
[05:37] <linner> cafuego, wow... that's very surprising... I listen to a linux podcast and the TWiT (this week in tech) casts too...
[05:37] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Haven't you got the discovery channel? o.O
[05:37] <PovRayMan> Anyways, I've got a question.  A simple one I think :)
[05:37] <linner> they're excellent!
[05:37] <dabaR> PovRayMan: but...:)
[05:37] <themot> !mark shuttleworth
[05:37] <ubotu> themot: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:37] <cafuego> BlueEagle: yes, I do. I care not for mummies, dinosaurs and ww2 footage.
[05:37] <PovRayMan> dabaR: my question is, with this upcoming 5.10 release, will i have to reinstall or will there be a simple kind of PATCH to make it all upgrade?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Can't go wrong with a good episode of mythbusters though...
[05:37] <linner> goodness cafuego ...
[05:37] <linner> I'm shockd.
[05:38] <linner> shocked even
[05:38] <cafuego> BlueEagle: I did when I was 12, but that's a LONG time ago.
[05:38] <themot> ubuntu works really well because it is backed by Mark Shuttleworth, a South African billionaire
[05:38] <linner> vanberge, do you listen to podcasts?
[05:38] <dabaR> PovRayMan: that is how...and dont do it before the official release.
[05:38] <PovRayMan> themot: Nigerian email scammer?
[05:38] <themot> that is to say, he has paid staff working on it
[05:38] <nalioth> PovRayMan: debian based linux' never have to be "reinstalled" due to the packaging system
[05:38] <airmikey> what is location of c header.......trying to load vmware
[05:38] <BlueEagle> cafuego: You went wrong with a good episode of mythbusters? Dude I think that's kind of "don't try this at home" stuff.
[05:38] <cafuego> BlueEagle: mythbusters are on SBS (Australian) and are not interrupted with 15 minutes of ads every 5 minutes there.
[05:38] <vanberge> linner, not typically...
[05:39] <vanberge> although ive been meaning to try one some day
[05:39] <airmikey> what is the command to load c header
[05:39] <linner> vanberge, so I take it you can't recommend something to listen to them on either huh? :)
[05:39] <cafuego> airmikey: in what?
[05:39] <dabaR> airmikey: this is not a good question.
[05:39] <airmikey> for vmware
[05:39] <vanberge> itunes  :-/
[05:39] <cafuego> airmikey: Are you after the kernel headres perhaps?
[05:39] <linner> hehehe... you can't hear it on linux though can you?
[05:39] <airmikey> yes
[05:39] <PovRayMan> dabaR: ok so sometime whenever when i'm looking at the ubuntu update manager, i'll see a big ol' update?
[05:39] <themot> airmikey:  using synaptic u need to install gcc and linux source or headers ...cant remember which
[05:40] <dabaR> PovRayMan: no, the sources need to be changed to breezy, instead of hoary.
[05:40] <vanberge> i dont even know if itunes can run... maybe under wine?
[05:40] <airmikey> gcc is installed
[05:40] <linner> oh i didn't think of that... but i don't think so
[05:40] <Alinux> 2.6.8-60 xorg, it's final realise?
[05:40] <themot> in other words:  there are a few things to install before vmware will install succesfully, it's frustrating at first
[05:40] <linner> bummer
[05:40] <nalioth> airmikey: install "build-essential" it will install all you need for developement
[05:40] <Alinux> for breezy I mean.
[05:40] <PovRayMan> dabaR: so that means what exactly? Sorry I'm quite the newbie to linux and i've found ubuntu to be the most awesome :)
[05:40] <dabaR> I believe it should not be too hard to set up a little app that will tell you: " There is a new version of the OS available! CLick here if you want to upgrade, so it may be like that one day.
[05:41] <PovRayMan> ok cool
[05:41] <vanberge> linner, did you find out how to install KDE ok?
[05:41] <dabaR> PovRayMan: no need to say you are a newb, your questions will tell me that if I want to know...
[05:41] <nalioth> PovRayMan: you need never "install" another OS
[05:41] <dabaR> PovRayMan: did you get the message from ubotu?
[05:41] <vanberge> then all you have to do is select it as a session before you log into your system...
[05:41] <linner> vanberge, I'll be honest with you... no... I'm not trying right now...
[05:41] <PovRayMan> no no, i'm just looking at the upcoming 5.10 release and how it's got new stuff
[05:41] <linner> vanberge, I'm sure I'll figure it out though with everyone's kind help in here ;)
[05:41] <PovRayMan> i was wondering how my 5.04 system will manage updating if at all
[05:41] <vanberge> linner, no problem... seems like your pretty new... one thing at a time
[05:41] <linner> vanberge, I'm still trying to find out if I can get an app to check my gmail for me
[05:41] <nalioth> PovRayMan: be patient til mid october
[05:41] <dabaR> PovRayMan: ubotu is a bot, send a message to the channel as so: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy
[05:41] <c0rrup7> airmikey, make a #uname -r  then open synaptic and search for headers, compare to your uname and install the corresponting
[05:42] <linner> vanberge, I very much am... 4 days to be exact...
[05:42] <linner> :)
[05:42] <vanberge> linner, thunderbird
[05:42] <PovRayMan> nalioth: i'm just curious that's all :)
[05:42] <themot> airmikey:  look at this link   http://www.tuxme.com/node/536
[05:42] <linner> vanberge, I'm not a thunderbird lover... used it on the PC and wasn't that jazzed with it... it's okay...
[05:42] <linner> :)
[05:42] <PovRayMan> i've managed to get synergy2 running so I thought that was pretty cool hehe
[05:42] <vanberge> evolution perhaps?
[05:43] <intelikey> used it on a PC linner
[05:43] <airmikey> c0rrup7: i did that ..loaded the header
[05:43] <intelikey> what are you on now ?
[05:43] <nalioth> PovRayMan: on the grand scheme of things, the next release wont be that much different
[05:43] <linner> vanberge, I'd love to use Evolution but it doesn't sync properly with my T3...
[05:43] <linner> :(
[05:43] <Alinux> best solution thunderbird if yuo want to share mails with windows.
[05:43] <vanberge> i like thunderbird just because of its rss... groups them like email.
[05:43] <linner> intelikey, yep
[05:43] <c0rrup7> ok, so it shouldnt ask for the headers anymore
[05:43] <PovRayMan> nalioth: so the new version of gnome really won't be that big a deal?
[05:43] <vanberge> with your T3 ???
[05:43] <cafuego> Best solution is an IMAP server to store your mail on.
[05:43] <linner> vanberge, sorry Palm Tungsten T3
[05:44] <c0rrup7> word ! imap rules, pop3 is useless
[05:44] <vanberge> ahh... ok
[05:44] <dabaR> PovRayMan: there is a file, /etc/apt/sources.list. It contains a list of repositories from which you can install files. It can be manually edited, or you can use synaptic, or apt-get to edit it for you. Your current sources.list has hoary as the version. When the time comes, you change that to breezy, and do the 3 button dance in synaptic. reload, mark all upgrades(or so, I dont use it) and apply.
[05:44] <nalioth> PovRayMan: there are a few new things, mosty incomprehensible to me (they means something to somebody, tho)
[05:44] <linner> vanberge, one of these days I'll figure out RSS... and I'm sure I'll appreciate Thunderbird then
[05:44] <themot> I still dig my webmail interface
[05:44] <vanberge> jeez i have never tried to sync a pda with linux
[05:44] <PovRayMan> dabaR: badass, i get it now.  Thanks :)
[05:45] <linner> themot, I love it too
[05:45] <linner> themot, that's the reason I want a good notifier
[05:45] <dabaR> So, when breezy badger comes out, your sources.list will still contain the hoary as the sources, so it will not know about the new packages. taht is why you change to breezy in the sources.list
[05:45] <cafuego> You can run any number of web interfaces on imap. aha!
[05:45] <dabaR> then you update, and upgrade, and it gets the new versions.
[05:46] <dabaR> I wish ubotu could remember longer posts like that so I dobnt have top type it out many times...
[05:46] <PovRayMan> when it goes to upgrade stuff like gnome and whatnot, wouldn't i have to reboot or whatever for the changes to apply?
[05:46] <Xorlev> I'm going to stick with Hoary until mid to end October.
[05:46] <Vexir> Can someone help me with installing drivers for my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro? I don't know what to do
[05:46] <Xorlev> By then the major kinks will be gone.
[05:46] <cafuego> dabaR: The limit is an IRC limit.
[05:46] <dabaR> it will restart the xserver for you... PovRayMan, it is indicated in its script.
[05:46] <dabaR> cafuego: I see.
[05:46] <PovRayMan> oh ok cool
[05:46] <cafuego> dabaR: ... or it stores as 'tinytext' or osmesuch.
[05:46] <dabaR> the install script that will be called during the install of the new gnome.
[05:47] <c0rrup7> dabaR, is that 100 % right ? an update could possibly update your sources list, couldn't it ?
[05:47] <themot> cafuego:  isnt the point of imap to use it with a non-webmail client?
[05:47] <cafuego> themot: No, why would it be?
[05:47] <vanberge> can somebody try sourceforge ?  i cant seem to bring up the page
[05:47] <themot> webmail folders would be stored on the server anyways
[05:47] <dabaR> c0rrup7: an update does not change sources.list, it uses sources.list to update the package list.
[05:47] <cafuego> themot: webmail is just another imap client.
[05:47] <dabaR> vanberge: ping it. ping sf.net
[05:48] <vanberge> ping ok... page even tries to load... i get favicon... but page does not display
[05:48] <dabaR> clear out cache.
[05:48] <vanberge> did
[05:48] <Gobbla> anyone know if you have to do something to be able to play subs in vlc?
[05:48] <c0rrup7> dabaR, thats right, but it runs as root so it could update the sources.list, too
[05:48] <dabaR> installed a firewall?
[05:48] <vanberge> nope
[05:48] <Vexir> Can someone help me with installing drivers for my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro? I don't know what to do
[05:48] <dabaR> it could if that is what it does...
[05:48] <shawnz> c0rrup7: not really
[05:48] <shawnz> it has the power to
[05:48] <cafuego> !ati
[05:48] <dabaR> was what it did.
[05:48] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:49] <shawnz> but there is no programming to change the sources file.
[05:49] <cafuego> Vexir: Check those two links.
[05:49] <shawnz> which means its not possible
[05:49] <Vexir> cafuego: thanks.
[05:49] <dabaR> $10.
[05:49] <pussfeller> does xine not do mkv?
[05:49] <c0rrup7> right shawnz , because its maybe not what every1 would want to do ;)
[05:49] <vanberge> hmm... even page source is empty
[05:49] <vanberge> must be having trouble
[05:49] <shawnz> c0rrup7: ?
[05:49] <dabaR> c0rrup7: the principle of modularity, each thing does one specific task.
[05:50] <cafuego> pussfeller: mkv is a travesty
[05:50] <shawnz> listen, no where in update is there code to change the sources.list file
[05:50] <shawnz> so why would it
[05:50] <themot> I think pound for pound the best app I have loaded is gnome commander, ne1 else use it?
[05:50] <pussfeller> cafuego: why you say that?
[05:50] <PovRayMan> themot:  what is it
[05:51] <themot> just another file browser, but light and quick
[05:51] <dabaR> c0rrup7: apt-setup is what is used to change sources.list with apt nto sure about aptitude yet.
[05:51] <hihi5> I have a K8V SE Deluxe and GEIL 512 MB of CL25-4-4DDR 400 RAM  -- I ran MemTest a few months ago, from the ubuntu distro,and I got a POST message saying "CPU over temperature error"  - I hit escape key, and everything is working fine....I replicated this experience again tonight...is my RAM bad?  I didnt get any errors after 2 tests...
[05:51] <cafuego> pussfeller: Because it is.
[05:51] <cafuego> hihi5: No, an overheating CPU doesn't involve bad ram.
[05:52] <pussfeller> mkv is just a wrapper
[05:52] <BlueEagle> hihi5: CPU over temperature error on a mem test suggests poor cooling, perhaps bad use of cooling paste between the processor and the heatsink?
[05:52] <cafuego> pussfeller: Indeed, unusable in a lot of software.
[05:52] <dabaR> see...like travesty...
[05:52] <Lucifer_> why won't iwconfig connect me to a network, but the network gui can?
[05:52] <tommy2> Oh man, I'm gonna get wacked for asking this. But I just got back in and learned how to use the terminal. I have a .run file saved to my desktop. I went to cd ~/Desktop whats my next step?
[05:52] <dabaR> a wrapper.
[05:52] <dabaR> heh, not to judge, or be stupid...
[05:52] <nmstryoda> what is the ubuntu breezy channel?
[05:52] <Vexir> The terminal says my driver is upto date with the latest version.. if so, why cant I increase screen resolution beyond 1024 by 768 ??
[05:52] <cafuego> hihi5: Go into the bios at bootup and check what temp limit is set as warning.
[05:52] <vanberge> tommy2,  sh ./filename.run
[05:53] <cafuego> hihi5: If it's 50C< set it to 60 (should be fine).
[05:53] <dabaR> tommy2: what is the file?
[05:53] <nmstryoda> anyone?
[05:53] <pussfeller> well this one i got i making xine crash, but gmplayer plays it
[05:53] <dabaR> vanberge: has to +x it likely.
[05:53] <tommy2> enemy territory :D
[05:53] <cafuego> hihi5: If it's already 60 or 70, maybe consider checking the cpu fam.
[05:53] <dabaR> nmstryoda: are you in a hurry?
[05:53] <chavo> tommy2, might need root priviledges
[05:53] <nmstryoda> well, i need to ask a question
[05:53] <tommy2> uh oh, what does that mean?
[05:53] <BlueEagle> hihi5: 1st try removing dust from the heatsink. If that doesn't fix it check the fan (is it spinning at all) if it is remove the heatsink (or have someone that know what they are doing do if if you don't feel up to it) and check the cooling paste.
[05:53] <nmstryoda> not here since I'm on breez
[05:53] <chavo> if you install in /usr/local
[05:53] <nmstryoda> y
[05:53] <dabaR> well, wait a sec before you say anyone, at least...
[05:53] <themot> !ubuntu-breezy
[05:53] <ubotu> Wish i knew, themot
[05:53] <dabaR> there is no such thing...
[05:53] <pussfeller> how you set the subtitle size in totem anyways
[05:54] <chavo> tommy_h, do -> sudo ./filename.run
[05:54] <Vexir> The terminal says my driver is upto date with the latest version.. if so, why cant I increase screen resolution beyond 1024 by 768 ??
[05:54] <chavo> oh an et rocks!
[05:54] <dabaR> or, this is it.
[05:54] <tommy2> yes it does! :D
[05:54] <nalioth> !tell vexir -about resolution
[05:54] <chavo> it's about the only game I play
[05:54] <tommy2> im gonna give it a shot
[05:54] <BlueEagle> vexir: Perhaps your monitor isn't configured correctly?
[05:54] <dabaR> Use this form: I installed breezy, and updated today last time. I get this error when I do this.
[05:54] <pussfeller> you ever play etf?
[05:54] <nmstryoda> monitor or laptop screen?
[05:55] <chavo> no I'm not much of a gamer, but  I love et
[05:55] <nmstryoda> Vexir, desktop or laptop?
[05:55] <pussfeller> like tfc kinda but with et engine
[05:55] <themot> I always thought breeezy was a wuss begining for a fearsome badger ...they coulda named it bad badger or beastly badger
[05:55] <chavo> yeah, I've been on some servers running it
[05:56] <chavo> themot, ubuntu is a kind distro
[05:56] <dabaR> breezy, cause he is stinky.
[05:56] <nmstryoda> Vexir, you still here
[05:56] <nmstryoda> dabaR, he has gas
[05:56] <nmstryoda> =)
[05:56] <chavo> we're all about peace and love and gas
[05:56] <dabaR> so a breeze+badger, no good.
[05:56] <nmstryoda> breezy that is
[05:56] <pussfeller> i saw a beaver today :)
[05:57] <nmstryoda> esp. after 40
[05:57] <pussfeller> a big black beaver
[05:57] <dabaR> My nick means beaver.
[05:57] <chavo> I like my beaver shaved
[05:57] <dabaR> chavo: dont share...
[05:57] <pussfeller> first time i ever saw one
[05:57] <hihi5> breasey beaver :)
[05:57] <nmstryoda> hehe
[05:57] <themot> here comes the mod down
[05:57] <chavo> lol
[05:57] <dabaR> lol
[05:57] <hihi5> oy :)
[05:57] <nmstryoda> chavo, beaver skin is something to behold....
[05:57] <chavo> Wynona had a big brown beaver
[05:58] <BlueEagle> TMI chavo
[05:58] <tommy2> when i did the /sudo command it asked me for a password
[05:58] <nmstryoda> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <tommy2> it wont let me type though
[05:58] <nmstryoda> tommy2, sudo
[05:58] <PovRayMan> haha gnome commander is so old school
[05:58] <BlueEagle> tommy2: That is the password you've defined for your user.
[05:58] <nmstryoda> your password
[05:58] <tommy2> i type and nothing comes on screen
[05:58] <PovRayMan> i feel like i'm back in win95
[05:58] <cafuego> Eeeeeeeeevil!
[05:58] <nmstryoda> tommy2, you won't see it
[05:58] <dabaR> I bet gnome commander comes from midnight commander.
[05:58] <BlueEagle> tommy2: passwords are not echoed to screen. It's not a bug but a feature
[05:58] <nmstryoda> but notice the $ changes to #
[05:59] <themot> I kinda dig it though
[05:59] <hihi5> i hate sudo
[05:59] <nmstryoda> well, get used to the Linux way
[05:59] <tommy2> oh, thats pretty cool
[05:59] <PovRayMan> i think sudo should be changed to sumo
[05:59] <nmstryoda> hihi5, i use sudo -s
[05:59] <vanberge> hihi5, you could stop using it...
[05:59] <PovRayMan> because i like sumo wrestlers
[05:59] <intelikey> tommy2 it is not echoed to stdout for security purposes
[05:59] <vanberge> sudo passwd root
[05:59] <vanberge> change your root password
[05:59] <nmstryoda> true
[06:00] <h17m4n> Question: Is there a way to install the 32-bit kernell and apps without reinstalling?
[06:00] <hihi5> i dont use it vanberge  -- i just login as su
[06:00] <cafuego> or not, and just use sudo. It's not as if you need is 20 times a day.
[06:00] <h17m4n> and no I don't mean chroot... I mean replacement
[06:00] <themot> airmikey:  how's that isntall of vmware coming?
[06:00] <chavo> I didn't like the idea of sudo at first
[06:00] <hihi5> or a root terminal.
[06:00] <chavo> but after you get your system up and running how often do you really use it?
[06:00] <Fiyawerx> heh, im used to sudo just from the way our company works
[06:00] <PovRayMan> i have a bunch of times
[06:01] <hihi5> i'm aways installin crap constantly
[06:01] <dbernar1> chavo: depends on how you use your system, I use it more than 20 times... in an evening.
[06:01] <dbernar1> and I always use sudo, same thing, a thing of habbit.
[06:01] <cafuego> hihi5: especially then, sudo is easy and handy.
[06:01] <jojoman02> is this where to get help (if not could someone tell me where i can get help, i'm a total newbie)
[06:01] <BlueEagle> chavo: Hear hear! I also found it annoying, but now actually appreciate it. I used to leave root logins all over the place... :)
[06:01] <dbernar1> !ask
[06:01] <chavo> I have set a root password, but still use sudo
[06:01] <Fiyawerx> what window managers do you guys use?
[06:01] <chavo> it's just as easy
[06:02] <jojoman02> how do i install a deb package (don't laugh)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> jojoman02: dpkg -i packagename
[06:02] <cafuego> jojoman02: 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb'
[06:02] <chavo> jojoman02, dpkg -i
[06:02] <intelikey> chavo if i had to use sudo i would be adding five keystrokes to almost half of what i type.   (excluding irc)
[06:02] <jojoman02> kk thanks
[06:02] <themot> I am supoposed to go to new orleans in the near future to do some tech work (computer setup) one of the things in my arsenal of stupid end-user fixes are 10 freshly burned breezy live cd's ...i will make converts out of em if it kills me
[06:02] <cafuego> intelikey: 'sudo -s' (voila, shell)
[06:02] <tommy2> when i type sudo do i need ./ after?
[06:02] <dbernar1> jojoman02: why are you installing a deb?
[06:02] <tommy2> or just /
[06:02] <hihi5> anyone know a way to securely shred files on a ReisterFS file system?
[06:02] <nmstryoda> themot, good luck
[06:02] <BlueEagle> sudo inteliky: You can add sudo in irc too. :p
[06:03] <chavo> intelikey, well I just browse the net and listen to tunes and play et for the most part
[06:03] <nmstryoda> hihi5, yes, burn the drive
[06:03] <chavo> and idle in irc
[06:03] <cafuego> hihi5: yes, just _use_ the filesystem.
[06:03] <nmstryoda> =)
[06:03] <hihi5> cafuego: funny
[06:03] <cafuego> hihi5: I'm not kidding.
[06:04] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Well, I've never had reiserfs crash'n'burn on me. :)
[06:04] <dbernar1> why does the gnome commander not use gtk:(
[06:04] <cafuego> BlueEagle: you forgot "yet"
[06:04] <hihi5> cafuego:  how do I do it using the filesystem?  or r u just sayin it crashes....
[06:04] <intelikey> chavo you should consider adding some contribution to the GNU community, write an app or someting.
[06:04] <cafuego> hihi5: it will eventually crash beyond recovery.
[06:04] <tommy2> sudo /et-linux-2.60.x86.run wont work, it says something about command, neither will sudo ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run but sh /et-linux-2.60.x86.run will work, why is that?
[06:05] <hihi5> cafuego:  what file system do you recommend?
[06:05] <nalioth> hihi5: ext3
[06:05] <themot> does tommy2 need to chmod anything?
[06:05] <vanberge> anybody know that automated fluxbox menu generator off the top of your head?  :-)   ty in advance!
[06:05] <cafuego> tommy2: 'sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run'
[06:05] <BlueEagle> tommy2: the file is not executable. You need to chmod o+x filename to make it executable with ./filename
[06:06] <cafuego> hihi5: ext3 or ext2 if you would like to keep the data.
[06:06] <chavo> intelikey, I like to dabble around, but I'm not a programmer
[06:06] <tommy2> Thanks!
[06:06] <Madpilot> hi all
[06:06] <tommy2> cafuego what you told me worked
[06:06] <tommy2> so far at least...
[06:07] <chavo> but I did help the kubuntu devs find a patch for the gtk-qt engine, so I'm trying
[06:07] <dbernar1> jojoman02: why are you installing a .deb?
[06:07] <cafuego> tommy2: Of course.
[06:07] <BlueEagle> dbernar1: because opera isn't in the repositories? :p
[06:07] <jojoman02> i need the latest bittorrent (beta) with trackerless support
[06:07] <hihi5> I am using KDE now, over ubuntu -- its not so hot.  I like XFCE best.
[06:07] <intelikey> every little 'bit' counts.     pun intended
[06:07] <brownie17> i am getting an error when i run synaptic, can anyone help me?
[06:08] <jojoman02> synaptic is the best...
[06:08] <chavo> I love KDE.
[06:08] <BlueEagle> brownie17: Not unless you tell us what the error message is.
[06:08] <chavo> XFCE is pretty cool too
[06:08] <chavo> but my fave is KDE
[06:08] <dbernar1> BlueEagle: you know this for a fact? I dont like how you act... Sond of da police, KRS One.
[06:08] <jojoman02> gnome feels more "solid"
[06:09] <dbernar1> jojoman02: and you got the deb where?
[06:09] <chavo> gnome is great if you don't know what's going on
[06:09] <jojoman02> from the bittorrent.com website
[06:09] <Davey|Laptop> Has anyone here managed to successfully uses gnome-launch-box on Hoary?
[06:09] <dbernar1> heh. I figured it out. There was a program called norton commander a while back, for dos...that is where the whole commander thing comes from, I bet.
[06:09] <jojoman02> dbernarl: from official website
[06:10] <brownie17> BlueEagle, getting it, just a tic
[06:10] <Xenguy> dbernar1: basically that's it, yes
[06:10] <jojoman02> dbernarl: from official website
[06:10] <dbernar1> ok, sounds ok, maybe, jojoman02 good luck.
[06:10] <brownie17> BlueEagle, ill pm it to you
[06:10] <Fiyawerx> anyone use fluxbox?
[06:10] <intelikey> dbernar1 midnight commander ?
[06:10] <dbernar1> Xenguy: yayaya, the mc looks exactly like NC:)
[06:10] <dbernar1> Im gonna use that.
[06:10] <tommy2> Yup, I was in and playing. Although it was running like crap.
[06:10] <Xenguy> intelikey: yup, and there's also emelfm and krusader
[06:10] <jojoman02> dbernarl: i got a Q... u know where i can get a plugin for x-chat that catches dcc listing from channels on irc?
[06:11] <nalioth> dbernar1: norton commander just made sense
[06:11] <tommy2> Then again, I'm using an ATi Radeon 64mb... The original.
[06:11] <intelikey> it is supposed to be nc for linux
[06:11] <dbernar1> nalioth: what do you mean?
[06:11] <tommy2> With the drivers bundled with Ubuntu... :D
[06:11] <brownie17> BlueEagle, also in synaptic it is ONLY showing me the KDE packages, and i want them all
[06:11] <intelikey> that was the idea.   but i think the mc team out did norton by a mile.
[06:11] <tommy2> My power supply crapped out and my computer wont boot with my x800.
[06:11] <chavo> tommy2, you have too install nvdia drivers
[06:11] <dbernar1> gnome-commander too.
[06:12] <tommy2> So this 430w can only juice an original radeon...
[06:12] <chavo> I mean ati
[06:12] <chavo> woops
[06:12] <BlueEagle> brownie17: Have you searched for KDE and is still in the serach window? (lower left part of screen)
[06:12] <tommy2> ATi doesnt have linux drivers for a card this old.
[06:12] <tommy2> They have them for my x800
[06:12] <nalioth> dbernar1: norton commander (i believe) introduced the interface we use in midnight cmdr and krusader (great file mangler for console, mc is)
[06:12] <cafuego> Davey|Laptop: Seems to hang X quite hadly.
[06:12] <tommy2> but like I said, my current PSU refuses to boot with it plugged in.
[06:12] <regeya> heh...back in the enlightenment DR, oh, I think about DR12, I remember using some ultra-funky rustified theme, and nearly everything on-screen were these amber-monitor-themed rxvts all over the place, which included on running mc.  heh, ultra-themed WMs.  what a waste of time. ;-)
[06:12] <dbernar1> what do you mean it just made sense?
[06:12] <intelikey> Xenguy ever use gentoo   it is based on the same nc/mc
[06:12] <chavo> don't they have unified driver now?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I got a X200 Mobility in my laptop.. wonder if they support it yet.
[06:12] <tommy2> For 8500 and up.
[06:12] <tommy2> This is THE original Radeon. :D
[06:12] <dbernar1> nalioth: ^ and, also, krusader, not a kde app?
[06:13] <chavo> oh
[06:13] <themot> i dig blackbox (fluxbox deriv) for my minimal side
[06:13] <brownie17> nalioth: i need a hand, i am going to PM you the error message i get when i open synaptic
[06:13] <tommy2> Thanks for the help Chavo. What did that sudo command do?
[06:13] <nalioth> dbernar1: krusader is kde based, yes
[06:13] <Madpilot> !sudo
[06:13] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:13] <Madpilot> tommy2: see ubotu ^^^
[06:13] <dbernar1> heh you can sudo mc, and do that, if you wanted to...:-/
[06:13] <chavo> tommy2, that gives you permissin to write in system folders
[06:13] <themot> !botsnack
[06:13] <ubotu> thanks themot :)
[06:14] <ghost_> how do i run a script it keeps on giving me permissin denide or bad interpetor
[06:14] <themot> !blackbox
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, themot
[06:14] <chavo> is there a bot in #kubuntu ?
[06:14] <tommy2> Let's say I have a bunch of MP3's or something. How can I create a folder to store them in? I don't quite understand how this file setup works...
[06:14] <themot> chavo:  dunno
[06:14] <cafuego> ghost_: chache the first line of the script, so it uses a real interpertor.
[06:14] <vu> What's an equivalent od SBM for an old white tower G3 that somehow will boot OS9 but not the Ubuntu?
[06:14] <chavo> yeah he's there
[06:14] <chavo> ubotu
[06:15] <tommy2> I cant just open the file system drive and creat a folder can i?
[06:15] <intelikey> ghost_ "ls -l <script> " and see if it is executable
[06:15] <ghost_> its a configure scrit for compiling sry should've metioned that
[06:15] <chavo> I hang out in there and try to help people out,
[06:15] <regeya> instead of doing productive things with my linux box back in those first-major-rewrite-of-enlightenment days, I just made my desktop look like something out of max headroom.  I didn't get much done but it was pretty.  *sigh*
[06:15] <Madpilot> tommy2: "file system" is all owned by root by default
[06:15] <chavo> so I can use the bot instead of trying to remember all these things
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> !fluxbox
[06:15] <ubotu> from memory, fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[06:16] <brownie17> !repos
[06:16] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:16] <tommy2> Now that I installed Enemy Territory. How do I add it to my games folder?
[06:17] <Davey> cafuego, yeah, seems to :/
[06:17] <tommy2> Add Applications?
[06:17] <cafuego> vu: blue&white or beige?
[06:17] <Twiggy> Anybody know of Xorg config options that would shift the offset in tvout?
[06:17] <cyphase> anyone know why i wouldn't be able to see windows computers in "Windows Network" , but still be able to connect to them by using "Connect to Server..."?
[06:17] <ghost_> it is
[06:17] <cafuego> Davey: Well, it *is* version 0.1
[06:17] <chavo> tommy2, it installed an icon for me,
[06:17] <vanberge> tommy2, you might need to log off / back on.
[06:18] <themot> tommy2:  symbolic link... like a shortcut... the command is "ln" and some parameters
[06:18] <mik3> omg gtk-gnutella <3
[06:18] <ghost_> ??
[06:19] <themot> !ln
[06:19] <ubotu> ln is a link. For a symbolic link, do: ln -s <target> <link_name>
[06:19] <intelikey> ghost_ perl script ?    the first line tells that.   you can extract the first line like "grep -m1 -ie"[a-z] " <file.name> "
[06:19] <caonex> What does it mean that my processor is dual timing?
[06:19] <vu> cafuego, beige
[06:19] <mik3> god i love my neighbors bandwidth
[06:20] <cafuego> vu: You would need to install using BootX, that's an OldWorld mac (they can't boot Linux off CD)
[06:20] <themot> mik3:  god the cops love that you love your neighbors bandwidth   :P
[06:20] <ghost_> i have a perl srcipt but thats for a diff prog i need to run configure
[06:20] <neiras> Hi there - I am testing Breezy and usplash starts up in a nasty, flickery, streched resolution. Does anyone know how to configure usplash to use a proper resolution? vga= and video= kernal options don't seem to do anything.
[06:20] <ghost_> for mplayer
[06:20] <intelikey> ghost_ ./configure
[06:20] <vu> cafuego,  Where to get this BootX devil
[06:21] <dabaR> ghost_: are you installing mplayer?
[06:21] <cafuego> vu: http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
[06:21] <neiras> vu: BootX requires MacOS to stay installed
[06:21] <mik3> themot : indeed
[06:21] <neiras> vu: quik is probably more like what you want for oldworld macs
[06:21] <intelikey> ghost_ in the same directory as the configure file of course.
[06:21] <ghost_> i know that lol it wont let me permissian denide ive with sudo
[06:21] <cafuego> vu: You will need a smallish (150 Mb or so) MacOS HFS (not HFS+) install.
[06:21] <themot> mik3:  I am just as guilty of it as the rest
[06:21] <neiras> vu: In fact, plain-jane debian installs a lot easier than Ubuntu on an oldworld
[06:22] <ghost_> dabaR yes
[06:22] <dabaR> ghost_: why from source, there are binaries.
[06:22] <cafuego> neiras: Not that I've noticed.
[06:22] <nalioth> vu: yes. installing ubuntu on your mac will teach you some things
[06:22] <ghost_> cant find deb binary but i still need source for othere things
[06:22] <vu> neiras,  debina or ubuntu or whatever I still need to get the booting going.
[06:23] <nige> i have big probem
[06:23] <nige> i think i may have just lost all my work on my hdd
[06:23] <themot> we have bin answe
[06:23] <nige> i reinstalled linux over wrote the first hdd complete
[06:23] <nige> which i was hapy to do
[06:23] <nige> so i plugged the 2nd one in
[06:23] <dabaR> ghost_: you can get the binary from universe.
[06:23] <nige> i edited the fstab to add the new drive in it
[06:23] <nige> then did a mkfs
[06:23] <nige> and now all i find when i mount the drive is the lost and fond folder
[06:23] <nige> did i totally screw it up
[06:23] <nige> ?
[06:23] <ghost_> k il try again dint find it first time
[06:24] <themot> !mkfs
[06:24] <ubotu> themot: I haven't a clue
[06:24] <dabaR> Sorry to hear that, nige.
[06:24] <neiras> vu - true, and debian installs quik automatically, with no macos partition
[06:24] <nige> did i kill it bady?
[06:24] <neiras> vu - http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
[06:24] <intelikey> nige learn to use "man <command> "   mkfs = msdos' format
[06:24] <nige> i did before
[06:24] <vu> neiras, I see
[06:24] <nige> now i know
[06:25] <ce_matre> hai
[06:25] <nige> that the data would still be there
[06:25] <nige> even if all the pointers are wiped
[06:25] <makyron> anyone know how to install a debian package that isn't in aptitude (or synaptic)?
[06:25] <vanberge> nige, what was on that disk?
[06:25] <nige> whats the best way to get it back though
[06:25] <neiras> vu - what kind of oldworld are you using? I'm on a performa 6400/200
[06:25] <nige> well it was my backup of my lifes work :)
[06:25] <ghost_> nope doesnt find it
[06:25] <nige> all my tafe doco music photos
[06:25] <xfxf> yo, probably been asked a million times, but if i s/hoary/breezy/ in my sources.conf i should be upgraded to the pre-release which is more or less stable?
[06:25] <nige> all that stuff
[06:25] <vu> neiras, I was hoping to get the ubuntu and test it
[06:25] <nige> i backed it up so i could redo my desktop
[06:25] <intelikey> nige if you mkfs'make a file system' (format a drive)  it wont have any data on it.....
[06:25] <nige> then my server did
[06:25] <nige> well
[06:26] <nalioth> vu: it can be done, you just need to follow the wiki
[06:26] <dabaR> xfxf: yes, no.
[06:26] <nige> as far as remember from my dos days
[06:26] <nige> when you do a format
[06:26] <vu> neiras,  MAn thi si a dino from the 1997-8 CompUSA etc tc
[06:26] <dabaR> heh, maybe, I never tried.
[06:26] <nige> it is possible to recover the data still
[06:26] <themot> nige: my man, (puts arm around your shoulder) u r in dire straits
[06:26] <dabaR> themot: htf do you know?
[06:26] <intelikey> nige this is not dos.
[06:26] <vu> nalioth, Sure
[06:26] <dabaR> dont tell the guy what you dont know, especially if its not good news.
[06:27] <nige> okay
[06:27] <nige> so its all gone
[06:27] <nige> right??
[06:27] <nige> its alllllll gone
[06:27] <nige> the funny thins is though
[06:27] <ghost_> i have added univers lol not my fist time using linux firs time with ubunto tho
[06:27] <themot> dabaR:  his chances of recovery??
[06:27] <nige> cfdisk reads the disk as 1 part and fidisk reads it as 2
[06:27] <dabaR> Noone that knows anything told you anything yet, but, it seems it is gone.
[06:27] <nige> hmmmmm okay
[06:28] <monte> Hello
[06:28] <ksmurf> They did a great job on breezy!  I guess it's not done yet....................
[06:28] <neiras> vu - ubuntu doesn't support oldworld macs. debian does.
[06:28] <vu> nalioth, I understand ubuntu is debian based but how close is it really? Does debina use the sudo?
[06:28] <ghost_> ubuntu*
[06:28] <vanberge> nige, i work for a bank... it is possible to recover formatted (once formatted) data SOMETIMES... but you would need a low level recovery tool, probably third party
[06:28] <intelikey> say monte
[06:28] <ghost_> but enywase i would like to compile from source
[06:28] <monte> Problems with Sound Card: Intel 82801 EB/ER (ICH5/ICH59) AC'97 AUDIO
[06:28] <makyron> thanks
[06:28] <vanberge> i say that because our data has to be zeroed out 3 times
[06:28] <cafuego> ghost_: Any reason?
[06:28] <vu> neiras, Then in that case you saved me a lot of googling thanx
[06:28] <dabaR> ghost_: go ahead.
[06:28] <tommy2> I'm having an issue connecting to servers, but that is the least of my worries. I have a tar.gz file I want to install. It's Borland Jbuilder. How do I do that? Is a tar.gz file like a zip file?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> gz = gzip
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> its a compressed , tar file.
[06:29] <nige> ta vanberge
[06:29] <intelikey> monte did you run "alsamixer "  and use M to unmute it ?
[06:29] <neiras> vu - keep in mind, if you are reading anything about YaBoot, you are reading a tutorial for newworld macs
[06:29] <ghost_> but has anyone uses vmware on ubuntu
[06:29] <cafuego> tommy2: start by running 'tar tfz filename.tar.gz', to see what's in it.
[06:29] <vu> neiras, Got that
[06:30] <neiras> vu - lots of good info here: http://www.us.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
[06:30] <cafuego> tommy2: If its contents are in a subdirectoryk, run 'tar xfz filename.tar.gz' to extract 'em.
[06:30] <monte> intelikey
[06:30] <monte> intelikey: thanks
[06:30] <neiras> vu - good luck to you, oopenfirmware is a hassle
[06:30] <monte> intelikey: how to save alsamixer unmuted
[06:30] <tommy2> from the terminal, right cafuego? sorry im new
[06:30] <vanberge> nige, hold on a sec...
[06:30] <cafuego> tommy2: yes
[06:30] <ghost_> k il figure out myself
[06:31] <cafuego> tommy2: Of you vould just double-click the file and use file-roller.
[06:31] <vu> neiras, Sure, thanx again.
[06:31] <intelikey> monte np, it should save when you exit.
[06:31] <monte> intelikey: audio still not available.  do I have to reboot
[06:31] <tommy2> Ok, so I double clicked on it. And inside are a bunch of folders I need to extract?
[06:31] <tommy2> Where do I extract them to?
[06:32] <monte> tommy2: it is always safe to extract to /dev/null
[06:32] <vanberge> lol
[06:32] <intelikey> monte no make sure you unmuted all that needs to be unmuted.   they were all 'mm'
[06:32] <monte> intelikey: all unmuted, still no sound.  do I have to reboot?
[06:32] <intelikey> no
[06:32] <tommy2> can I create a folder, called like extracted files? or are you not allowed to create folders in ubuntu or linux?
[06:33] <monte> intelikey: speakers are plugged in and turned on.  volumes are set.  sound card is enabled.
[06:33] <Xenguy> tommy2: you can use /tmp for that kind of thing
[06:33] <brownie17> i want a new computer, who will give me theirs?
[06:33] <brownie17> :)
[06:33] <toxicle> hi guys
[06:33] <toxicle> i have a question about pine
[06:33] <intelikey> monte where are you trying to get sould from ?
[06:33] <themot> my new one is 450mhz...want that one
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> tommy2,  of course you can create folders. and files...
[06:33] <monte> brownie: order pre-installed ubuntu from Open Sense Solutions
[06:33] <intelikey> errr sound
[06:33] <toxicle> it's not available when i apt-get install pine
[06:33] <monte> intelikey: anywhere.  no sounds work
[06:33] <c0rrup7> monte, it shows me muted, too, but sound works somehow
[06:33] <Xenguy> toxicle: Pine is non-free; try apt-get nano instead
[06:34] <shawnz> nano comes with ubuntu does it not.
[06:34] <vanberge> toxicle, why do you want pine??  :-)
[06:34] <Xenguy> toxicle: er, apt-get install nano
[06:34] <c0rrup7> btw, regarding the nvidia drivers ... i installed 5.10 from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63684 two hours ago, and the repository shows 7667 as an available package
[06:34] <neiras> Pine is a mail reader. Nano is an editor
[06:34] <monte> shawnz: whereis nano
[06:34] <tommy2> How do I do that? I'm sorry I'm so bad with this. When I open the "file system" i cant create folders
[06:34] <intelikey> that sounds like using OSS in place of alsa
[06:34] <Madpilot> Xenguy: nano is in by default, AFAIK
[06:34] <Xenguy> toxicle: ignore what I said
[06:34] <brownie17> monte: really? that's cool. so all the hardware they give you would have linux drivers? NICE
[06:34] <toxicle> yes i want to use pine as mail reader
[06:34] <brownie17> monte, good man
[06:34] <vanberge> neiras, pine also installs pico... they might be gettin gmixed up.
[06:34] <c0rrup7> nano = pico = included
[06:34] <neiras> vanberge, probably.
[06:34] <toxicle> nono i use vi
[06:34] <tommy2> When I try to extract to the /tmp directory it says I dont have the rights?
[06:34] <monte> brownie17: also see EmperorLinux for laptops
[06:34] <toxicle> i wanna use pine for mail
[06:35] <Xenguy> toxicle: I'm wrong (nano is the editor; pine is the mail prog :-)
[06:35] <Madpilot> tommy2: your own files should go in /<user> - "file system" is owned by root
[06:35] <shawnz> tommy2, because when you are in a user, all you have access to is '/tmp', and '/home/<username>'
[06:35] <cafuego> toxicle: You'll need to compile pine from source, then.
[06:35] <monte> brownie17: also see LinuxCertified for 64bit amd laptop with ubuntu preinstalled
[06:35] <toxicle> is there anythning else similiar?
[06:35] <toxicle> which ubuntu supports?
[06:35] <Xenguy> toxicle: anyway, an alternative mail client is mutt (if you like pine)
[06:35] <brownie17> monte: you jknow your stuff!
[06:35] <cafuego> toxicle: the pine license forbids distribution of modified binary versions.
[06:35] <toxicle> mutt
[06:35] <cafuego> toxicle: Depends, you could try 'mutt' or 'elm'.
[06:35] <monte> brownie: except for my integrated Intel 82801 AC'97 sound card
[06:35] <brownie17> where can i get a guide for using ALSA instea of ESD?
[06:35] <c0rrup7> any1 know if its safe to use the 7667 nvidia driver with 5.10 as it shows up in the repository ?
[06:36] <toxicle> which is better?
[06:36] <cafuego> toxicle: But keep in mind that "Pine Is Not Elm"
[06:36] <Xenguy> toxicle: elm is older; mutt is newer
[06:36] <cafuego> toxicle: I'd guess the one you prefer would be better.
[06:36] <tommy2> so the /tmp folder under the "file system" can i extract files to that?
[06:36] <toxicle> ok i'll try both
[06:36] <toxicle> :)
[06:36] <nalioth> cafuego: is the difference in taste?
[06:36] <toxicle> thanks
[06:36] <brownie17> monte: i have that same problem, cannot get a driver for it. i mean it works, but it sounds fairly crap
[06:36] <shawnz> tommy2: yes. every user can store and modify their own stuff in there
[06:36] <cafuego> c0rrup7: works fine here, but reputed to not work on Geforce 4 cards.
[06:36] <cevizoglu> cafuego: hm... I remember using pine 11 years ago
[06:36] <shawnz> but you cant change other users' stuff if they put it there
[06:36] <vanberge> tommy2, if you are instalilng something... typically i just extract them to my /home dir, then install them, then delete the extracted directory
[06:37] <Xenguy> tommy2: what are you trying to do (what are you extracting) ?
[06:37] <shawnz> indeed
[06:37] <c0rrup7> hmm ok should be fine with my 5600 fx
[06:37] <brownie17> monte: oh well, you can get a good sound card these days for $20 bucks, so no real worries
[06:37] <shawnz> under Home, you should see your username
[06:37] <shawnz> thats your home folder
[06:37] <cafuego> my 5700 is fine
[06:37] <shawnz> you own it
[06:37] <shawnz> and can do anything to it
[06:37] <cevizoglu> that would make elm at least 12 years old
[06:37] <tommy2> Im trying to install Jbuilder. I managed to extract it to the /tmp directory. :D
[06:37] <c0rrup7> cafuego, still anything to edit ? or just install and set ?
[06:37] <cafuego> cevizoglu: I think you'll find it's older.
[06:37] <Xenguy> toxicle: try to google a decent ~/.muttrc file -- that will make things much simpler :-)
[06:37] <cevizoglu> cafuego: I said at least
[06:38] <cafuego> cevizoglu: Just install, build 7667 kernel module, and go.
[06:38] <Xenguy> toxicle: (I might have one up my sleeve if you need it)
[06:38] <cafuego> cevizoglu: I said  I think you'll find it's older.
[06:38] <cevizoglu> cafuego: uh, why?
[06:38] <c0rrup7> ok i'll try it, thx cafuego
[06:38] <cevizoglu> cafuego: at least 11 years old means  it's > 11 years, which is the same thing as what you said
[06:39] <cafuego> cevizoglu: No, at least means >=
[06:39] <brownie17> who knows a guide for enabling ALSA instead of ESD?
[06:39] <shawnz> um
[06:39] <cevizoglu> cafuego: again, same thing
[06:39] <vu> Ubuntu beat kubuntu on googlefight ;-)
[06:39] <shawnz> alsa is on by default
[06:39] <shawnz> isnt it.
[06:39] <cafuego> cevizoglu: No, >= does not mean the same as >
[06:39] <shawnz> of course vu
[06:39] <Xenguy> tommy2: OK.  For future reference, if you want to compile software (instead of installing from package/deb, then /usr/local/src is the traditional location for that
[06:39] <brownie17> vu: what is googlefight?
[06:39] <shawnz> brownie17: fight based on how many google results two names have
[06:39] <brownie17> shawnz, no i don't think it is. in fact i'm nearly sure it isn't. there is something you have to do to it. i remember
[06:39] <tritium> even better, use checkinstall
[06:40] <vu> http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Ubuntu&word2=Kubuntu
[06:40] <monte> brownie17: whereis alsa
[06:40] <brownie17> shawnz, ok
[06:40] <cevizoglu> cafuego: when I say it's the same thing, I mean it doesn't make a stinking difference
[06:40] <brownie17> monte: pardon?
[06:40] <Xenguy> tommy2: yes, what tritium said (checkinstall is quite good)
[06:40] <monte> brownie: from root$ whereis alsa
[06:40] <cusco> !! marillat
[06:40] <ubotu> cusco: Are you smoking crack?
[06:40] <cafuego> cevizoglu: When you say something, I get a sudden urge to put you on ignore
[06:40] <tommy2> Thanks Xenguy and Tritium!
[06:40] <Xenguy> tommy2: yw
[06:40] <tritium> :)
[06:41] <lythia> how do I mount the second hdd I have?
[06:41] <cevizoglu> cafuego: feeling snippy, are we?
[06:41] <tommy2> Anybody know of any other Java Compilers for linux?
[06:41] <brownie17> cusco, you are smoking crack aren't you!
[06:41] <cafuego> tommy2: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:41] <cafuego> tommy2: There's a link on that page, which explains how to package the jdk for Ubuntu.
[06:41] <Gobbla> how do I fix hardware acceleration on my ATI Radeon 9200 gfx card?
[06:42] <cafuego> !ati
[06:42] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:42] <bur[n] er> !tell Gobbla about ati
[06:42] <bur[n] er> doh, beat me to it
[06:42] <Gobbla> i have ty..
[06:42] <intelikey> good night every body.    don't forget to checkout --> http://ts.silosoft.org   and God bless.
[06:42] <Vexir> lol
[06:42] <jojoman02> i have a problem mplayer is not showing up in synaptic (i've added the neccasary repositories)
[06:42] <cafuego> what's a god?
[06:42] <tommy2> Nice! Thank you! Ubuntu is unbelievable. This software is so well developed. And to be free? Wow.
[06:43] <Vexir> cafuego: Man's representation of forces which he is too stupid to explain
[06:43] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, come to the light ;p
[06:43] <cafuego> Vexir: Oh, me :-)
[06:43] <bur[n] er> lol
[06:43] <c0rrup7> god is dog spelled backwards, cafuego
[06:43] <c0rrup7> :P
[06:43] <vanberge> Vexir, perfect explanation
[06:43] <Xenguy> live is evil spelled backwards =)
[06:44] <cusco> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[06:44] <cusco> what repo has mplayer?
[06:44] <Madpilot> Vexir: I like your definition, can I borrow it for elsewhere?
[06:44] <deFrysk> sdrawkcab is backwards spelled backwards
[06:44] <Madpilot> cusco: Multiverse, I think
[06:44] <Vexir> Madpilot: Yup, quote me :)
[06:45] <monte> Hello World
[06:45] <lythia> how do I get at my other hdd, anyone? :D
[06:45] <tommy2> Thanks for all the help guys. I can't wait to start coding! Goodnight all.
[06:45] <Vexir> monte: The world doesnt care most likeley.. you should be like, hello #ubuntu
[06:45] <tritium> per the Code of Conduct, let's not criticize the religious, just as we'd not criticize agnostic
[06:45] <monte> !Hello Vexir
[06:45] <ubotu> monte: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:46] <Vexir> !Hello monte
[06:46] <ubotu> Vexir: Are you smoking crack?
[06:46] <monte> brownie17: sound works upon reboot after unmuting alsamixer
[06:46] <cafuego> tritium: I'm not criticising, just prefer to not have the *g* word used at me.
[06:46] <Vexir> ubotu: Are you a bot?
[06:46] <ubotu> Vexir: Syntax error in line 1
[06:46] <Vexir> ubotu: Yes you are..
[06:46] <ubotu> Vexir: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:46] <Vexir> ubotu: So guess what.
[06:46] <ubotu> Vexir: Are you on ritalin?
[06:46] <tritium> cafuego, agreed, we don't want religion pushed on anybody either
[06:46] <nalioth> tritium: i believe you mean to say "let's leave peoples choice of religion out of the channel"
[06:46] <Vexir> ubotu: lmao <3
[06:46] <ubotu> Vexir: Syntax error in line 1
[06:46] <Madpilot> !tell Vexir about ubotu
[06:46] <Vexir> I know its a bot
[06:46] <Vexir> its a great bot though haha
[06:46] <tritium> nalioth, equal treatment, mostly
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[06:46] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[06:47] <Vexir> isnt ritalin LSD... or am i confused
[06:47] <Xenguy> Vexir: not the same
[06:47] <Vexir> thoreauputic: Sick bastard..
[06:47] <nemik> hehe that would certainly make children more entertaining
[06:47] <Vexir> lol
[06:47] <Xenguy> :)
[06:47] <Vexir> ew
[06:47] <regeya> ritalin is an upper
[06:47] <Vexir> sadists
[06:47] <Vexir> lol
[06:47] <regeya> not a hallucigen
[06:47] <someguy> this is my first time in IRC can someone help me find the animechannelX chat from winmx
[06:47] <someguy> ?
[06:47] <Vexir> someguy: google?
[06:47] <kevogod> lol
[06:47] <regeya> LSD was used iirc on schizos...very interesting.
[06:47] <Vexir> regeya: ?
[06:47] <nalioth> someguy: i think you are a little lost
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> winmx ?
[06:47] <kevogod> someguy, You sure are lost aren't you.
[06:48] <nemik> isnt prozac mushrooms... or am i confused ;)
[06:48] <someguy> yes very
[06:48] <Vexir> lmfao
[06:48] <regeya> Vexir:
[06:48] <Vexir> regeya:
[06:48] <regeya> Vexir:
[06:48] <Xenguy> regeya: a lot of weird experiments were conducted by (you guessed it) the Amerikan gov't
[06:48] <someguy> i just went to the server of my OS
[06:48] <Xenguy> way back when
[06:48] <Vexir> redtech:
[06:48] <Vexir> whoopsie.
[06:48] <Vexir> regeya:
[06:48] <kevogod> someguy, You are using Ubuntu?
[06:48] <Vexir> there yago.
[06:48] <someguy> yes
[06:48] <regeya> ve're all living in Amerika, Amerika, ist wunderbar
[06:48] <brownie17> how do i enable ASLA, anyone?
[06:48] <Vexir> kevogod: No he's not, don't listen to him, he's lying!
[06:48] <Xenguy> regeya: yah voll
[06:49] <regeya> rofflecopters
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> someguy,  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[06:49] <brownie17> regeya, ich spreche kleine deutsch
[06:49] <someguy> yes I am i'm new to linux i'll admit but i am using it
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Snell!
[06:49] <regeya> MEIN FUHRER!   I CAN WALK!!!
[06:49] <Vexir> regeya: Wunderbar... thats such a cool word, what language is that
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Struddle!
[06:49] <kevogod> well, let's see what ctcp version says
[06:49] <Xenguy> hehe
[06:49] <brownie17> regeya, heil phuror!
[06:49] <noirequus> regeya: CoC
[06:49] <Vexir> someguy: Its okay I'm new too ^_^
[06:49] <regeya> Vexir, it was supposed to be german but meh
[06:49] <Vexir> lol
[06:49] <Sashi> hey
[06:49] <Sashi> if i did a default installation
[06:50] <brownie17> noirequus, do you know how to enable alsa?
[06:50] <Sashi> does it come with a firewall?
[06:50] <Vexir> Madpilot: #ubuntu-offtopic is for squares...
[06:50] <Sashi> like ip6?
[06:50] <Sashi> or something?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic as Madpilot says
[06:50] <regeya> noirequus, Corrosion of Conformity...?
[06:50] <noirequus> brownie17: no
[06:50] <regeya> sorry thoreauputic
[06:50] <brownie17> noirequus, do you know how i might find a guide to do it?
[06:50] <Vexir> thoreauputic: Oh fine.. jeesus. :-p Mabye I'll get a few good quotes for bash.org ;)
[06:51] <regeya> jesus is out picking apples...
[06:51] <Sashi> ?
[06:51] <Sashi> so?
[06:51] <brownie17> doies anyone know if openoffice 2 will automatically be in breezy?
[06:51] <nemik> sashi, i'm not sure, although you could easily apt-get one or get it with symaptic
[06:51] <Sashi> ok
[06:51] <Sashi> cuz i gott aconfigure it
[06:51] <brownie17> madpilot: pm?
[06:52] <Madpilot> brownie17: go ahead - and thanks for asking first
[06:52] <nemik> hmmm i always just use my router's hardware one, but it shouldn't be too bad setting one up on the machine
[06:53] <brownie17> sashi: firestarter
[06:53] <nemik> oh wow, great name!
[06:55] <vern401> can someone here walk me through installing my ralink wireless card I have tried but am new
[06:55] <Xenguy> Sashi: shorewall
[06:56] <Gobbla> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 8500 Prototype DDR Pentium 4 (SSE2) (FireGL) (GNU_ICD)
[06:56] <Sashi> okie...
[06:56] <Sashi> lol
[06:56] <Gobbla> why does it say this when i have 9200?
[06:56] <Gobbla> :/
[06:56] <Sashi> whats the command
[06:56] <Sashi> to configuire
[06:56] <Vexir> Gobbla: Mabye you configured it wrong.....
[06:56] <Gobbla> fglrxinfo
[06:56] <zyth> man Windows CE is weird to irc from...
[06:57] <Gobbla> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:57] <pprince_> Where is saslauthd?
[06:57] <pprince_> I do need it to auth courier-imap against mysql, right?
[06:57] <vern401> for me linux is a whole new world
[06:57] <cafuego> !find saslauthd
[06:57] <h17m4n> did anyone try Enlightenment???
[06:58] <cafuego> pprince_: No, courier uses its own auth daemon. sasl is for postfix.
[06:58] <nalioth> h17m4n: enlightenment is deliciously different
[06:58] <Vexir> #ubuntu-offtopic > #ubuntu...
[06:58] <cafuego> courier uses authdaemond.mysql for mysql auth.
[06:58] <h17m4n> I hope it's easy to install
[06:58] <Gobbla> Section "Device"
[06:58] <Gobbla> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 (RV280)"
[06:58] <Gobbla> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[06:58] <Gobbla> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[06:58] <vern401> no i have tried mandrake in the past and this is different from that too
[06:59] <pprince_> cafuego: oh.  I thought postfix spoke to mysql directly?
[06:59] <h17m4n> no pasting here
[06:59] <nalioth> Gobbla: please dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin
[06:59] <h17m4n> !pasting
[06:59] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, h17m4n
[06:59] <h17m4n> !paste
[06:59] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:59] <Vexir> valleygirl bot..
[06:59] <Vexir> ohman.. lmao
[06:59] <cafuego> pprince_: For mail/domain/alias lookups yes, not for smtp auth purposes
[06:59] <pprince_> ah, k.
[06:59] <Gobbla> large amount.. heh..
[06:59] <cafuego> pprince_: saslauthd is in 'sasl2-bin' (universe)
[06:59] <Sashi> so how to configure the firewall?
[06:59] <pprince_> cafuego: thank you.
[07:00] <h17m4n> 2 lines + = large amount
[07:00] <cafuego> pprince_: You following the ispmail-sarge docs?
[07:00] <Xenguy> Sashi: *what* firewall?
[07:00] <pprince_> cafuego: no, but please please please give me a link.
[07:00] <h17m4n> what fps do you get on glxgears Gobbla?
[07:00] <cafuego> pprince_: just a se
[07:00] <Sashi> the default firewalla that was installed
[07:00] <pprince_> cafuego: I'm following gentoo docs I've used a lot, and it's a pita.
[07:00] <cafuego> pprince_: 8shudder* no!
[07:00] <Gobbla> 774
[07:00] <Xenguy> Sashi: AFAIK there is no *default* firewall
[07:00] <monte> Hello World
[07:00] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:00] <h17m4n> cool
[07:00] <cafuego> pprince_: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[07:01] <Sashi> ok so theres no firewall installed with ubuntu?
[07:01] <pprince_> Sashi: There is no default firewall because none is needed by default:  ubuntu is installed with no open ports.
[07:01] <cafuego> pprince_: It's debian sarge, but the package names and config in ubuntu are identical.
[07:01] <h17m4n> no
[07:01] <monte> Sashi: google shorewall
[07:01] <Vexir> ohman.. lmao
[07:01] <Vexir> #ubuntu-offtopic > #ubuntu...
[07:01] <Xenguy> Sashi: not by default (there are no services running by default, so there is no need)
[07:01] <h17m4n> you could install Firestarter
[07:01] <Sashi> ok thanks
[07:01] <Sashi> i dont want no firewall
[07:01] <monte> Question: is there streaming audio like shoutcast and winamp?
[07:01] <shawnz> vlc/vls.
[07:02] <pprince_> Sashi: Also, the Linux kernel (along with some command line utilities) are all you need for a firewall.  the various firewall packages you can install are easier to use front ends.
[07:02] <Gobbla> h17m4n: 1910..
[07:02] <pprince_> cafuego: can you find a link easily, or you want me to google?
[07:02] <deFrysk> monte, yes
[07:02] <cafuego> pprince_: I pasted it
[07:02] <cafuego> pprince_: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[07:02] <pprince_> oh, sorry.
[07:02] <monte> deFrysk: I have xmms, where are the streaming sites
[07:02] <Gobbla> i think, well it changes..
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> az[a] zel: why not wait for sometime, and use breezy ?
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> or use the preview now?
[07:02] <deFrysk> shoutcast.com
[07:02] <h17m4n> Question: I'll be moving down from AMD64 to a 32 bit distro(noob). Here: Ubuntu 32 bit or SUSE?
[07:02] <shawnz> not shoutcast.
[07:03] <shawnz> icecast or VLS.
[07:03] <shawnz> or vlc.
[07:03] <pprince_> cafuego: nice doc, lifesaver, thx.
[07:03] <monte> deFrysk: shoutcast uses windows media which I can't open
[07:03] <monte> shawnz: where is icecast vls or vlc please
[07:03] <shawnz> apt.\
[07:03] <deFrysk> monte, sice when ?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Ive used shoutcast.com  and xmms I think
[07:03] <pprince_> cafuego: did you used to be in #/. on slashnet?
[07:03] <monte> How to force shoutcast link to open in xmms ?
[07:04] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Nice, what cpu? I get 2100 with a Radeon 9600 on a Athlon 64 3200+.
[07:04] <cafuego> pprince_: If you want serverside mail filtering, you'll need to chage the maildrop line in postfix as well.
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> breezy has a package for FF 1.5 beta ?
[07:04] <deFrysk> monte, add mp3 support to your ubuntu
[07:04] <monte> deFrys
[07:04] <monte> deFrysk: how to add mp3 support....
[07:04] <thoreauputic> monte: install streamtuner (nice app for shoutcast)
[07:04] <deFrysk> !mp3
[07:04] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[07:04] <jojoman02> question: how do you edit the gnome menu? (applications menu)
[07:04] <Gobbla> p4 3ghz
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> !ubuntuguide
[07:04] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:04] <Gobbla> h17m4n:
[07:05] <cafuego> pprince_: I did indeed
[07:05] <h17m4n> ?
[07:05] <Gobbla> i got results from 704-1910..
[07:05] <gigaclon> what is the easiest way to downgrade firefox to the official Hoary ver?
[07:05] <pprince_> cafuego: aha!  I am tech/tweakism/tweak/teatime !
[07:05] <cafuego> :-)
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> gigaclon: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox
[07:05] <pprince_> cafuego: I would have asked you sooner, but I thought I did once and you said no :P
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> gigaclon: then update and then again install mozilla-firefox
[07:06] <vern401> what do i use to put the software in for my ralink wifi card
[07:07] <h17m4n> did you resize the window? because when you do, the fps goes up so it's a cheat... You have to leave it at the original size and let it run for like 30 secs without using the pc... that will give you a maximum which should be reported more than twice
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> hey .. when i try to upgrade breezy to hoary , it tries to install alll gcc's --- 3.3 , 3.4 ,  4.0
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> thats too much!
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> i dont need so many gcc's
[07:07] <Gobbla> h17m4n: no i didnt
[07:07] <Gobbla> didnt touch a thing
[07:07] <konedima> hey i'm sorry if i'm interrupting anything but i was wondering if anybody could help me get my d-link dwl-g520+ wireless card working
[07:07] <h17m4n> ohh
[07:07] <c0rrup7> breezy uses gcc-4.01
[07:08] <c0rrup7> at least the latest one
[07:08] <h17m4n> Gobbla: cool... what cpu?
[07:08] <Gobbla> got 1908-1910 almost all the time
[07:08] <Gobbla> p4 3ghz
[07:08] <pprince_> cafuego: one last question.  I want to have no local mail delivery.  [how]  can I do that easily?
[07:08] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: you use breezy /?
[07:09] <c0rrup7> yes
[07:09] <Gobbla> h17m4n: but when i try to play enemy territory it lags like SHIT
[07:09] <c0rrup7> pprince_,  No local delivery on a mailhost ?
[07:09] <Gobbla> i frame every 10 seconds or something
[07:09] <Gobbla> dunno whats wrong..
[07:09] <c0rrup7> do u think thats a good idea ?
[07:09] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: hoary to breezy or from the preview cd ?
[07:09] <vern401> I dont use a local mail I use yahoo only
[07:09] <pprince_> c0rrup7: well, local delivery for virtual domains, but no delivery to system accounts.  root/postmaster/etc will be aliases.
[07:10] <c0rrup7> preview cd, da_bon_bon , from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63684
[07:10] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Which ati drivers are you using? the xorg-driver-fglrx or the latest one from ATI's page?
[07:10] <pprince_> I'll worry about that later, though.
[07:10] <c0rrup7> ah yes, root/postmaster etc. ARE aliases usually
[07:10] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: why didnt you dist-upgrade from hoary ?
[07:10] <Gobbla> h17m4n:  xorg
[07:10] <c0rrup7> because hoary was buggy for me, da_bon_bon
[07:10] <Gobbla> !ati
[07:10] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:10] <konedima> hey i'm sorry if i'm interrupting anything but i was wondering if anybody could help me get my d-link dwl-g520+ wireless card working
[07:11] <h17m4n> I was lagging on UT2004 demo, but it got fixed when I updated the driver.... and I also got a 700 fps increase in glxgears
[07:11] <Gobbla> the ati driver?
[07:11] <h17m4n> yeah
[07:11] <h17m4n> it was kinda of hard to install
[07:11] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: define "buggy" ?
[07:11] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: breezy upgrade is trying to remove my firefox
[07:11] <h17m4n> I had to alien rpm in order to install it, and do some other stuff
[07:12] <Gobbla> ok... but it should work with xorg, dont u think?
[07:12] <c0rrup7> well, nvidia raid sound ... dunno to be true, i just had many errors and couldn't get them sorted out
[07:12] <Gobbla> must be the hardware acceleration that is the problem?
[07:12] <h17m4n> no
[07:12] <c0rrup7> so i thought i try 5.10, and bam, it works...
[07:12] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: what would you suggest for me ? get the cd, or try to upgrade ?
[07:12] <h17m4n> the xorg one
[07:12] <pprince_> cafuego: so, do you remember me?
[07:12] <h17m4n> uses a 8.8.something ati driver
[07:12] <ceal105> hello... is there any differences between ubuntu and kubuntu besides kde of course?
[07:13] <c0rrup7> da_bon_bon, i dont know, if you upgrade make a backup ... :P
[07:13] <h17m4n> the latest one is 8.16.20 or something
[07:13] <nalioth> ceal105: none
[07:13] <da_bon_bon> c0rrup7: hmm.. i am confused
[07:13] <h17m4n> so that driver is like a year old
[07:13] <da_bon_bon> why would apt "hold back" certain packages ?
[07:13] <da_bon_bon> any idea?
[07:14] <da_bon_bon> hoary to breezy is holding back "gnucash gnucash-common mplayer-386 xine-ui"
[07:14] <cafuego> pprince_: The memory is going ... old people ...
[07:14] <az[a] zel> hmm crap
[07:14] <pprince_> heh
[07:14] <konedima> hi will someone answer my question if possible
[07:14] <az[a] zel> i just installed hoary, and it wont boot the operating system
[07:14] <Gobbla> h17m4n: okay
[07:14] <az[a] zel> bios says "Error loading operating system"
[07:14] <pprince_> cafuego: don't remember teatime.  should be ashamed :P
[07:14] <c0rrup7> i'll look up the repositories in my install, gimme a sec da_
[07:14] <c0rrup7> da_bon_bon,
[07:14] <cafuego> pprince_: But 'teatime' does seem familiar.
[07:14] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: you on breezy ?
[07:14] <Gobbla> i use 8.8.25
[07:14] <da_bon_bon> ok, C0
[07:14] <Gobbla> :S
[07:15] <ColonelKernel> az[a] zel, is this some kinda proprietary system, like a dell or a compaq
[07:15] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: What of it!
[07:15] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: hmm.. irritated ?!
[07:15] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: No, just not planning on helping people wreck their systems until AFTER breezy is released.
[07:15] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: hm.. no, i wanted to ask, what version of firefox does breezy have ?
[07:16] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: and, why during upgrade, is breezy trying to install gcc 3.3 and 3.4 and 4.0 ?
[07:16] <cafuego> 1.0.6-1ubuntu11
[07:16] <ColonelKernel> when is breezy released?
[07:16] <chavo> da_bon_bon, 1.06
[07:16] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: october 13.
[07:16] <kevogod> October Xth
[07:16] <SymGeosis> ColonelKernel, October.
[07:16] <da_bon_bon> ColonelKernel: /topic
[07:16] <ColonelKernel> nice
[07:16] <caonex> what does this person mean by this: Next I learn the clock is running double time. What does it mean for the clock to run doulbe time?
[07:16] <ColonelKernel> da_bon_bon, thank you!
[07:16] <da_bon_bon> ColonelKernel: lol
[07:16] <chavo> ColonelKernel, 10-13
[07:16] <chavo> oh
[07:16] <kevogod> ColonelKernel, love the name
[07:16] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: See also '/msg ubotu info firefox breezy'
[07:16] <c0rrup7> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2057 da_bon_bon
[07:16] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: thanks :)
[07:17] <cvt> how can i contact someone in google talk?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> cvt: gaim?
[07:17] <cvt> i don't know how to use gaim very well
[07:17] <kevogod> cvt: <name>@gmail.com
[07:17] <konedima> can someone help me with my problem?
[07:17] <cvt> but it keeps closing on me...
[07:17] <kevogod> cvt: Use Jabber
[07:17] <bur[n] er> konedima: what's yer problem
[07:17] <cvt> ...i'll try that.
[07:17] <az[a] zel> does ubuntu have any known problems being installed on SATA drives?
[07:17] <kevogod> cvt: for the protocol
[07:17] <SymGeosis> cvt, google talk has a walkthru on how to do that. ;-)
[07:17] <netdur> do anyone have idea how to fix this? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:17] <konedima> i'm trying to get my d-link dwl-g520+ working
[07:17] <cvt> SymGeosis, thx
[07:18] <Madpilot> az[a] zel: not for me, I'm on a SATA right now...
[07:18] <az[a] zel> I have an PATA drive (120GB) and a SATA drive (200GB).. winXP is on the PATA drive, and im trying to install ubuntu on the sata drive
[07:18] <konedima> as it is i'm in windows seeing as i can't connect to the wireless network in linux
[07:18] <thoreauputic> netdur: install build-essential
[07:18] <smott> hmm what's that meta-package that installs gcc, autotools and related things so i can build things?
[07:18] <az[a] zel> and everything goes fine. but, grub doesn't work. when I reboot after install, it says "Error loading operating system"
[07:18] <h17m4n> Gobbla: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57743&highlight=ati
[07:18] <SymGeosis> cvt, specifically http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[07:18] <thoreauputic> smott: see above
[07:19] <smott> thoreauputic: haha, sorry. didn't see that
[07:19] <Madpilot> !tell az[a] zel about dualboot
[07:19] <netdur> thoreauputic, thanks... it is on cd?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> netdur: I think so - try it
[07:20] <SymGeosis> It is.
[07:20] <netdur> :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> sudoa pr-get install build-essential
[07:20] <thoreauputic> bah
[07:20] <cafuego> konedima: yeah, that card requires windows drivers under Linux, running in ndiswrapper. Or the acx100 drivers, which still require the Windows firmware files.
[07:20] <thoreauputic> typo city
[07:20] <netdur> thank you
[07:20] <Sashi> hmm
[07:20] <Sashi> hey guys
[07:21] <Sashi> how do i put in a proxy
[07:21] <cafuego> Unless the 520+ is an acx111, in which case you may as well give up.
[07:21] <nalioth> thoreauputic: is that city near the town of dyslexia?
[07:21] <cvt> i think i was born to use linux.  i can tell ms has been trying to hide linux from me for years
[07:21] <cvt> with their market penetration
[07:21] <thoreauputic> nalioth: yes, deifnlty ;)
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> "Market INFESTATION"
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:21] <cvt> i was destined to be a linux professional
[07:21] <cafuego> ooh, more thunderstorms
[07:21] <da_bon_bon> hey . .anyone can help me understand why apt "holds back" certain packages ?
[07:22] <SymGeosis> da_bon_bon, Eh?
[07:22] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: aot holds back apckages when dependencies cannot be resolved.
[07:22] <konedima> uhhh its an acx111
[07:22] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: They can SOEMTIMES be fixed by using 'dist-upgrade' instead of 'upgrade'.
[07:22] <cafuego> konedima: Just give up.
[07:22] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: but it is holding back xine-ui and mplayer .. i had installed them from backports i think
[07:22] <az[a] zel> Madpilot: doesn't help :/ I told ubuntu to take up the entire drive (the SATA one). it's grub that is failing
[07:22] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: i am trying to dist-upgrade to breezy
[07:22] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: is it breezy that you're working with?
[07:23] <az[a] zel> Madpilot: i did a fixmbr in the windows recovery console, so XP is booting again...
[07:23] <konedima> and wait for what.... some better drivers to come out?
[07:23] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: Now you know why backports are bad ;-)
[07:23] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: you will wait then, they will install eventually
[07:23] <cafuego> konedima: I doubt there will ever be drivers. A better bet would be getting a supported card.
[07:23] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: yep.. but how do i resolve it, now ? :(
[07:23] <Sashi> so how do i configure proxy?
[07:24] <cafuego> konedima: I asked Netgear about a related card (same chipset) and was told to get lost.
[07:24] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: if you attempt to resolve them NOW, you may bodger your box badly
[07:24] <Xenguy> Sashi: details
[07:24] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: You keep them on hold and are glad that apt is clever.
[07:24] <konedima> well i'm sure the big companies will never care about linux
[07:24] <Sashi> in Downloader for X
[07:24] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: Because forcing an install WILL wreck it.
[07:24] <nalioth> sweet pears in a can, more freakin bots
[07:24] <Sashi> is there a thing to put in a proxy
[07:24] <Sashi> or even wget
[07:24] <Sashi> there a command to put proxy?
[07:24] <da_bon_bon> cafuego, nalioth: but cant i just remove mplayer and xine-ui , and install them again ? this using breezy repo, no backports ?
[07:24] <SymGeosis> As much as I hate to spam the main channel: shawnz PM!
[07:25] <Xenguy> konedima appears to be a moron
[07:25] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: no
[07:25] <Xenguy> er
[07:25] <monte> Hello World
[07:25] <Xenguy> .oO(konedima appears to be a moron)
[07:25] <monte> Sound Card Compability: Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit Sound Card ?
[07:25] <c0rrup7> brb
[07:25] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: ok.. but, if i am not irritating, can you please tell me why cant i do that ?
[07:25] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: because "backports" doesnt exist on breezy (yet)
[07:26] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: we are all waiting for those pkgs to come out
[07:26] <SymGeosis> da_bon_bon, backports is "backported" from breezy...
[07:26] <cafuego> nalioth: I'm not.
[07:26] <Xenguy> Sashi: if English is your first language, please try to be more specific/clear
[07:26] <nalioth> cafuego: you are 'different' now be quiet
[07:26] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: thats why, i want to remove mplayer and xine --- and install from archive.ubuntu.com -- dont they have mplayer and xine ?
[07:26] <cafuego> nalioth: the mplayer from multiverse works fine.
[07:26] <cvt> now, how do i get voice recognition on gaim/gtalk?
[07:26] <cvt> that link worked btw
[07:26] <cvt> tyvm
[07:27] <cvt> but is there a voice chat program for ubuntu?
[07:27] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: you ARE installing from archive.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <thoreauputic> cvt: gnome meeting does voice
[07:27] <Sashi> like i want to put a proxy
[07:27] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: yes .. but it is holding back .. so just remove, and reinstall from archive .. isnt that ok ? i am removing backports completely
[07:28] <Sashi> in so that i can download something that needs a proxy
[07:28] <cafuego> omg, it's Shaggy from scooby doo.
[07:28] <cvt> thoreauputic, can i connect to someone in gtalk with it?
[07:28] <Sashi> and btw wheres apache htdocs
[07:28] <thoreauputic> cvt: i doubt it
[07:28] <grimdeath> hello, can someone help me with my ati driver setup?
[07:28] <Cym> can anyone tell me what package is responsible for creating /dev/stdout ?
[07:28] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: you can try it, but you were warned about possible bodgering
[07:28] <SymGeosis> Sashi, /var/www
[07:28] <thoreauputic> cvt: don't know, frankly
[07:28] <Cym> if udev is involved
[07:28] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: i still dont understand .. i am just removing mplayer and xine-ui ...
[07:28] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: go for it
[07:29] <az[a] zel> ColonelKernel: no, it's a system I made myself. uses a Gigabyte K8T800 Pro motherboard. Standard stuff. Previously ran Mandrake 10.0 and Windows 2000 dual boot
[07:29] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: ok .. i will just remove them, upgrade completely to breezy .. and live without xine and mplayer :)
[07:29] <Sashi> ok one more question
[07:29] <Sashi> how to configure mysql
[07:30] <az[a] zel> ColonelKernel: I'm dreading even thinking about it, but I may have to reinstall XP onto the 200GB SATA, and install ubuntu with the boot loader on the 120GB PATA drive :/
[07:30] <SymGeosis> Sashi, I recommend mysql-admin
[07:30] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: only for a few more weeks
[07:30] <Xenguy> Sashi: basically, what is it you want to actually do?
[07:30] <SymGeosis> Sashi, you can get it from apt.
[07:30] <ColonelKernel> az[a] zel, thats ridiculous, it sounds like your boot sector didnt get installed right, thats all
[07:30] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: i dont mind :) infact, i will keep it the way it is .. after a few weeks it will install, right ?
[07:31] <ColonelKernel> if it says OS not foung thats the windows boot loader
[07:31] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: yes, when breezy finalizes, all should work correctly
[07:32] <cafuego> nalioth: All except, perhaps, backports stuff.
[07:32] <amazing> still a few bugs but this is really a nice distro
[07:32] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: ok. so i am keeping it the way it is. and one more, dist-upgrade is trying to install openoffice2 .. good, but how do i remove ooo1 ?
[07:32] <da_bon_bon> completely
[07:32] <SymGeosis> da_bon_bon, apt will do that for you.
[07:32] <SymGeosis> If it leaves any residue you can always go in behind it with "rm"
[07:32] <da_bon_bon> SymGeosis: no. it keeps both ooo1 and ooo2
[07:33] <tritium> SymGeosis, no
[07:33] <cafuego> OOo1 is much quicker then v2, so you'll probably want to keep it.
[07:33] <SymGeosis> tritium, that's an odd decision for them to make...
[07:33] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: i keep both 1 and 2 ?
[07:33] <tritium> SymGeosis, why?
[07:33] <SymGeosis> tritium, I would have expected them to use apt to upgrade 001 to 002...
[07:33] <twothirtyseven> I need some help installing a firefox plugin
[07:33] <SymGeosis> tritium, just like all of the other package updates.
[07:34] <tritium> SymGeosis, on a fresh breezy install, only openoffice.org2 is installed
[07:34] <No1Bri> hey, can sombody help me with a problem Im having... Im trying to install Ubuntu with an ATI x800pro graphics card, anyone know how to get it running with this card?
[07:34] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: if i were you, i'd leave the box alone and let it do what it likes
[07:34] <Sashi> shit
[07:34] <tritium> no thanks
[07:34] <Sashi> i did mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password do my sql
[07:34] <SymGeosis> tritium, I wasn't aware he did a fresh install. I thought he was upgrading.
[07:34] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: lol.. ok ..
[07:34] <Sashi> how to change???
[07:34] <da_bon_bon> SymGeosis: dont ..
[07:34] <tritium> SymGeosis, I'm not referring to his case
[07:34] <SymGeosis> da_bon_bon, yes?
[07:34] <twothirtyseven> how do you do a manuall intsall of the java sun runtime
[07:34] <da_bon_bon> tritium: on breezy ?
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> SymGeosis: it will update ooo1 and install ooo2
[07:35] <cafuego> da_bon_bon: Yep
[07:35] <tritium> da_bon_bon, yes
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: ok
[07:35] <tritium> !tell twothirtyseven about java
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> tritium: fresh install or upgrade ?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !tell twothirtyseven about java
[07:35] <tritium> da_bon_bon, fresh install will only install openoffice.org2
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> !tell da_bon_bon  about java
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> tritium: i am asking what did you do ?
[07:35] <twothirtyseven> fresh
[07:36] <No1Bri> !tell No1Bri about ATI
[07:36] <tritium> da_bon_bon, I've been testing breezy, so I've installed it many times
[07:36] <da_bon_bon> ok, tritium
[07:36] <az[a] zel> is it possible to install LILO as the boot loader during the installation ?
[07:36] <cafuego> az[a] zel: Yes.
[07:36] <da_bon_bon> tritium: anything i should be aware of, while upgrading ?
[07:36] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: you can save a lot of data by /msg uboto <factoid>
[07:37] <sashi> erm
[07:37] <sashi> if i did
[07:37] <sashi> mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password
[07:37] <sashi> whats my passsword?
[07:37] <tritium> da_bon_bon, if you want to remove all the old version 1 packages, just removing them like any other packages.  They're openoffice.org-*, rather than openoffice.org2-*
[07:37] <sashi> cuz i wanna change it
[07:37] <sashi> acidently did that
[07:37] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: where factoid is ? and yes, i am troubling ubotu quite often
[07:37] <da_bon_bon> tritium: any thing else ? like, are there prompts ? i intend to do i over the night
[07:38] <tritium> da_bon_bon, prompts?  using what?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> tritium: prompts while upgrading
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> using apt
[07:38] <tritium> da_bon_bon, are you upgrading to breezy?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> tritium: yes.
[07:38] <SymGeosis> tritium, then I was correct. =P Fewsal.
[07:38] <tritium> I'd just recommend you use the -u switch then, if you want some feedback
[07:38] <sashi> erm?
[07:38] <sashi> anyone
[07:38] <tritium> SymGeosis, not about using rm, no
[07:39] <SymGeosis> tritium, yes, rm will remove files.
[07:39] <tritium> SymGeosis, that's not the proper way to remove them.
[07:39] <da_bon_bon> tritium: no .. i am thinking of -y --force-yes ... to get rid of prompts
[07:39] <SymGeosis> tritium, hence the statement "left over files"
[07:39] <tritium> da_bon_bon, not something I'd do, but if you want to
[07:40] <da_bon_bon> tritium: what would you do, if you want to  dist-uprade to breezy ?
[07:40] <tritium> SymGeosis, you should use the package management system to remove packages
[07:40] <SymGeosis> tritium, this is assuming something was removed via apt. (which doesn't always remove files even with a complete-removal.
[07:40] <tritium> SymGeosis, do you use the --purge option?
[07:40] <cvt> in two seconds will someone type my name to test this setting for me please
[07:40] <cvt> ?
[07:40] <SymGeosis> tritium, yes. Occasionally I have had a file or two left over.
[07:40] <sashi> so?
[07:40] <sashi> cmon
[07:40] <thoreauputic> cvt
[07:40] <tritium> da_bon_bon, I'd pay closer attention to what was happening, rather than just forcing yes
[07:40] <SymGeosis> tritium, due to 3rd party plugins etc.
[07:40] <gorilla> cvt, what for?
[07:40] <cvt> thx
[07:41] <tritium> SymGeosis, I'm skeptical of that
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> ok, tritium :)
[07:41] <cvt> i was testing to see that the tab button changes to a different color when my name is typed
[07:41] <cvt> it works thx
[07:41] <SymGeosis> tritium, as is your right. =)
[07:41] <tritium> :)
[07:41] <cvt> i'm using xchat
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> anyway .. cya all
[07:41] <tritium> good night, da_bon_bon
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> thanks tritium nalioth cafuego
[07:41] <cvt> it appears blue when someone types my name--that way i don't have to switch to the channel unless someone types my nick
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> tritium: er.. afternoon :)
[07:41] <SymGeosis> tritium, However, I present you with this question, what would I have to gain about lying in regards to such a trivial matter?
[07:41] <cvt> very helpful
[07:42] <da_bon_bon> cya all, then
[07:42] <sashi> erm
[07:42] <stjepan> hello
[07:42] <nalioth> tritium: is it enough for the whole room?
[07:43] <sashi> if i did he command mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password
[07:43] <sashi> what is my passowrd
[07:43] <cafuego> Eww, it's an adclick tarcker cookie.
[07:43] <tritium> sounds like a mysql question
[07:43] <stjepan> There is kernel config in boot folder. I use Ubuntu 5.04. Are my kernel config and your the same??
[07:43] <cafuego> sashi: Nothing if you didn't set anything.
[07:43] <tritium> cafuego, ;)
[07:44] <nalioth> thoreauputic: aint no miracle, was a texas cookie :P
[07:44] <sashi> but
[07:44] <sashi> it says access denied
[07:44] <thoreauputic> nalioth: a Longhorn cookie, maybe ;)
[07:44] <tritium> thoreauputic, heh
[07:44] <cafuego> sashi: mysqladmin -u root -p password db_user_password
[07:44] <nalioth> thoreauputic: we call em "bullcookies"
[07:45] <tritium> Longhorn cookie?  Don't eat it!  Your graduation rate will fall to 0%!
[07:45] <cafuego> prairie oysters?
[07:45] <sashi> erm
[07:45] <sashi> access denied
[07:45] <sashi> using password yes
[07:45] <cafuego> sashi: Then it is probably whatever you set it to.
[07:45] <sashi> i i ono what it is
[07:45] <sashi> can i uninstall then install again?
[07:45] <cafuego> sashi: it has no password by default.
[07:46] <sashi> but i did
[07:46] <sashi> mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password
[07:46] <sashi> accident
[07:46] <sashi> then pressed enter
[07:46] <ar> HI, anyone know much about firestarter, in particular how to run it with a router between me and the net??
[07:46] <tritium> sashi, yes, you can purge it
[07:46] <sashi> purge?
[07:46] <tritium> purging removes a package and its configuration files
[07:46] <sashi> its remove?
[07:46] <sashi> or purge?
[07:47] <esac_> bash question: any help on how to get the path to the script that is being executed would be appreciated. and if you feel like teaching me something, possibly an explanation of how it works ? :)
[07:47] <tritium> sashi, man apt-get for details
[07:47] <stjepan> please will anyone send me ubuntu's 5.04 default kernel config? (It is somewhere in /boot)
[07:47] <PzyCrow> esac_, could you clarify the problem?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> esac_: #bash might be a better place to ask (lots of bash gurus in there )
[07:48] <cafuego> stjepan: Why not reinstall it?
[07:48] <tritium> stjepan, do you not have ubuntu installed?
[07:48] <ar> HI, anyone know much about firestarter, in particular how to run it with a router between me and the net??
[07:48] <stjepan> tritium: no
[07:48] <stjepan> but I really need that kernel config
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ar: no need to repeat
[07:48] <stjepan> DEFAULT kernel config
[07:48] <ar> okay. sorry.
[07:48] <sashi> some support you guys are
[07:48] <cafuego> stjepan: Did you want to specify which kernel and which ubuntu revision? And what arch?
[07:49] <tritium> sashi, be nice please
[07:49] <sashi> ok lol
[07:49] <sashi> :P
[07:49] <cafuego> sashi: Feel free to ask elsewhere.
[07:49] <stjepan> cafuego: ubuntu 5.04's default kernel
[07:49] <cafuego> ... ?
[07:49] <tritium> sashi, if you want to purge a package, sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[07:50] <Webby`> HELP! I get the following error when trying to open synaptics
[07:50] <Webby`> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2058
[07:50] <Webby`> How do I get rid of it?
[07:50] <Webby`> I can't install or uninstall anything
[07:51] <az[a] zel> In the installation help screen for installing grub to a specific hdd/partition, are the device names there just examples, or are they accurate?
[07:51] <tritium> az[a] zel, if it's the help screen, they're examples
[07:51] <gorilla> Webby`, you probably need unviverse repository enabled..
[07:51] <candlelight> stjepan, the config-2.6.10-5-386?
[07:52] <Webby`> gorilla: How do I do that?
[07:52] <az[a] zel> tritium: it's the screen where it asks you what device you want to install to e.g (hd0,0)
[07:52] <bur[n] er> Webby`: xterm -e sudo apt-get -f install
[07:52] <ar> has anyone here configured their keyboard to be DVORAK?
[07:52] <az[a] zel> i might just install grub to floppy just to be safe... try to fix it once the system is running :/
[07:52] <gorilla> Webby`, becuase you are missing something out of your apt sources.
[07:53] <cafuego> stjepan: We're still waiting
[07:53] <cafuego> bur[n] er: an LP for computers
[07:53] <tritium> az[a] zel, I odn't recall
[07:53] <tritium> don't recall
[07:53] <Webby`> bur[n] er: That didn't work. It said authentication rejected
[07:53] <bur[n] er> authentication rejected?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> Webby`: when did it say that?
[07:53] <Webby`> Yes
[07:54] <Webby`> When I did xterm -e sudo apt-get -f install
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Webby`: sudo
[07:54] <bur[n] er> heh, i mean, did you see anything prior?
[07:54] <MrBear> hi
[07:54] <Shorty`> hey guys, where would I got for some help with the fglrx 'package' in ubuntu?
[07:54] <snausages> hi, is there a utility that will wipe my drive? not format it, but wipe it, so that i can donate my computer.
[07:54] <bur[n] er> !ati
[07:54] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:54] <bur[n] er> Shorty`: ^----
[07:54] <Shorty`> ah, thanks
[07:54] <Webby`> It says: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[07:54] <MrBear> is 5.10 a working version?
[07:54] <cafuego> snausages: boot from a cd, then run 'dd' onto the device a couple of times.
[07:55] <bur[n] er> sounds like b0rked sources.list file to me
[07:55] <cafuego> MrBear: Nearly.
[07:55] <gorilla> snausages, download dban...  (you'll need to google for it... it's apparently is DoD specs)
[07:55] <Webby`> bur[n] er: How do I fix that?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> Webby`: in a terminal, just run  sudo apt-get -f install  (and see what happens)
[07:55] <zorba64> MrBear: works fine here
[07:55] <snausages> cafuego, boot from the ubuntu cd?
[07:55] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: that's what I had him do :P
[07:55] <MrBear> testing right now in virtual pc
[07:55] <stjepan> cafuego: What? I have Intel Celeron 1.7GHz
[07:55] <Webby`> thoreauputic: It says: E: The package netraverse-kernel-gcc needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: yeah but you left out the sudo :)
[07:55] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: no i didn't
[07:56] <cafuego> stjepan: Just checking that my 2.6.10-5-powerpc would indeed not be useful.
[07:56] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: OK I missed it I guess, sorry :)
[07:56] <stjepan> cafuego: are yout and my kernel configs the same?
[07:56] <tritium> Webby`, which repository is that supposed to be in?
[07:56] <vern401> cool the new ubuntu allows me to use that wireless card I was looking for help with.
[07:56] <candlelight> snausages, fastest (not best) is dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[07:56] <cafuego> stjepan: No neither of my kernels can even run on your machine.
[07:56] <stjepan> ?
[07:56] <Webby`> tritium: I'm not sure
[07:56] <stjepan> cafuego: so may I use your kernel config?
[07:57] <stjepan> cafuego: did you ever change that kernel config?
[07:57] <snausages> i see.. i also think i have corrupted partitions on here... would that fix it?
[07:57] <cafuego> stjepan: It's for *powerpc*
[07:57] <cafuego> stjepan: Your CPU isn't even enabled in it.
[07:58] <candlelight> snausages, the previous command I gave, is destructiv, not fixing partition, cuz you said to wipe and donate your pc
[07:58] <stjepan> aha
[07:58] <stjepan> ok
[07:58] <stjepan> tnx
[07:58] <Webby`> How do I fix my repositories?
[07:58] <stjepan> cafuego: Is kernel config in ubuntu live too?
[07:58] <NO1Bri> !tell No1Bri ATI
[07:58] <cafuego> stjepan: You cna, of course, always fetch the linux-image from archive.ubuntu.com and grab the file that way,
[07:58] <thoreauputic> !tell Webby` about repos
[07:58] <stjepan> is kernel config in live?
[07:59] <cafuego> stjepan: Dunno, I'm not running the precompiled kernel at the moment.
[07:59] <Webby`> ty
[07:59] <NO1Bri> !tell NO1Bri ATI
[07:59] <thoreauputic> !tell NO1Bri about ati
[07:59] <snausages> candlelight, yes that's what i want to do. the thing is this though: i had a distro installed on here, and wanted to install ubuntu, which i did, but it showed me some 'hda errors', so i wanted to wipe it completely and make sure that all partitions are gone.
[07:59] <stjepan> cafuego: I want that precompiled kernel's config
[08:00] <tritium> stjepan, download it from archive.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <No1Bri> !tell No1Bri ATI
[08:00] <snausages> basically i want the drive to be unpartitioned, and back to its "factory" state
[08:00] <thoreauputic> No1Bri:  /msg ubotu ati
[08:00] <candlelight> snausages, if you try that command, you'll find that _everything_ is gone (well, not professionally, but fastest).
[08:01] <candlelight> gtg
[08:01] <stjepan> tritium: huh, but where is it?
[08:01] <No1Bri> hmm I need help with the installation of the Binary Display driver for ATI cards
[08:02] <thoreauputic> No1Bri: read ubotu's /msg - or did you not run the command I told you ?
[08:03] <No1Bri> I ran it nothing happened
[08:03] <tritium> !tell No1Bri about ati
[08:03] <No1Bri> Yep.. thanks Trit
[08:03] <tritium> No1Bri, when you were trying it, you left out the "about"
[08:04] <thoreauputic> tritium: and used caps for ATI  IIRC
[08:05] <No1Bri> Im such a noob
[08:05] <stjepan> may I use kernel config for 2.6.10 with kernel 2.6.11?
[08:06] <tritium> stjepan, don't use 2.6.11 with hoary.  It's unsupported
[08:06] <stjepan> no
[08:06] <tritium> e.g., no linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.11
[08:07] <stjepan> I want to use Ubuntu 5.04's kernel config with Gentoo 2005.0
[08:07] <tritium> fine, go ahead and download it and give it a try
[08:07] <stjepan> what download?
[08:08] <stjepan> where, that is the question!
[08:08] <tritium> as cafuego and I mentioned earlier, you can get it off of archive.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <c0rrup7> re
[08:08] <tritium> you can also search packages.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <cvt> do you know what i need to install doom 3?
[08:08] <stjepan> tritium: but where in archive.ubuntu.com????
[08:08] <tritium> base
[08:08] <cvt> i have three cd icons on my desktop but don't know how to launch them or install them
[08:08] <stjepan> tritium: what package?
[08:09] <stjepan> where
[08:09] <c0rrup7> hmmm i cant resolve my prob with nvidia ... :/
[08:09] <stjepan> tritium: please give me link
[08:10] <thoreauputic> stjepan: please use your brain - you can't expect tritium to do evrything for you
[08:10] <stjepan> :9
[08:10] <stjepan> :(
[08:10] <stjepan> but I really do not know where
[08:10] <stjepan> sry
[08:10] <Webby`> UGH! EI still get this error when I try to open up synaptics. : The package netraverse-kernel-gcc needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:10] <Webby`> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[08:10] <_tiago> can some one help me update from hoary to breezy?
[08:11] <tritium> Webby`, you should be careful with unofficial repos
[08:11] <tritium> things like that can happen
[08:11] <Webby`> tritium: I know
[08:11] <Webby`> tritium: But how do I fix it?
[08:11] <SymGeosis> _tiago, no offense but if you can't do that yourself then you probably shouldn't be using it. ;-)
[08:11] <charlesj> what are some good repositories?
[08:11] <tritium> the official ones, charles__
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !tell charlesj about repos
[08:12] <cvt> you don't understand: i really love linux
[08:12] <tritium> Webby`, I don't even know what repos you're using now
[08:12] <charlesj> tritium: what about packages you can't find there?
[08:12] <deFrysk> _tiago, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:12] <tritium> !tell SymGeosis about ubuntuguide
[08:12] <cvt> i have been waiting for this for years
[08:12] <Webby`> :(
[08:12] <stjepan> I found it!
[08:12] <charlesj> sorry :)
[08:12] <stjepan> tnx
[08:12] <SymGeosis> tritium, thanks for tha.
[08:12] <Webby`> tritium: Does this mean I have to reinstall breezy ?
[08:12] <SymGeosis> tritium, I kinda already mentioned that fewsal.
[08:13] <tritium> SymGeosis, did you read the info?  We're not advising the use of ubuntuguide...
[08:13] <adiiidas> hi, i need help setting up my modem
[08:13] <adiiidas> i ran lspci
[08:13] <tritium> fewsal?
[08:13] <adiiidas> and this is what i get
[08:13] <SymGeosis> tritium, whatever works.
[08:13] <adiiidas> Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
[08:13] <tritium> wtf does that mena
[08:13] <tritium> mean
[08:13] <tritium> SymGeosis, no, please don't advise it.
[08:14] <SymGeosis> tritium, there is no reason why one can not direct others to third-party sources of information. That is after all, what opensource is about, sharing.
[08:14] <Webby`> :(
[08:14] <tritium> SymGeosis, thanks for not respecting our channel guidelines
[08:14] <SymGeosis> tritium, I offered a defense, please don't read too much into words. Words are hardly actions.
[08:14] <thoreauputic> SymGeosis: true - the problem is that we see daily various troubles caused by people folowing that guide
[08:14] <deFrysk> SymGeosis, the reason not to do it is the fact that its not an ubuntu source
[08:15] <SymGeosis> tritium, thanks for jumping to conclusions. =P
[08:15] <nalioth> SymGeosis: and you are not here to help fix the broken pieces
[08:15] <charlesj> hey, but what about packages not included int he ubuntu repositories?
[08:15] <adiiidas> anyone have some insight on my modem problem? :)
[08:15] <ska-fan> How would I check all packages on my system as to whether all files are still there and whether they are unharmed, and if neccessary re-install harmed files?
[08:15] <tritium> charles__, there are around 17000 in the repos.
[08:15] <ska-fan> my hard disk doesn't quite work and I lost some files
[08:16] <tritium> ska-fan, dpkg -C or --audit
[08:16] <Xeon3D> hi
[08:16] <SymGeosis> repos are repos...
[08:16] <thoreauputic> SymGeosis: no
[08:16] <SymGeosis> Or let me say, official repos are official repos.
[08:16] <charlesj> tritium: is it okay to add the breezy repos?
[08:16] <tritium> SymGeosis, nope
[08:16] <Madeye> guys, I have upgraded to Breezy preview, but x.org is not able to load keyboard module
[08:16] <charlesj> i am using hoary
[08:16] <Madeye> any idea?
[08:16] <SymGeosis> ...no matter what web page they are listed on.
[08:16] <Xeon3D> does anyone remember or know the name of a login manager theme for gnome that featured a female body and is in red tones?
[08:16] <SymGeosis> !!
[08:16] <thoreauputic> SymGeosis: some are more equal than others ;)
[08:16] <ubotu> ! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[08:16] <nalioth> SymGeosis: a fuel pump for a toyota won't work on a ford. fuel pumps are fuel pumps
[08:16] <Webby`> Ok, I have a another problem. I try to convevrt rpm files using alien -i package.rpm but the .deb file that is made from the rpm file dissappears as soon as it is made. How do I stop this?
[08:16] <SymGeosis> People. please read the rest of what I said.
[08:16] <tritium> charles__, you're going to end up pulling in a bunch of stuff from breezy.  Might was well upgrade.
[08:16] <SymGeosis> ...
[08:17] <SymGeosis> BAH
[08:17] <thoreauputic> SymGeosis: please stop. This argument has been had before
[08:17] <charlesj> shyte
[08:17] <Xeon3D> anyone?
[08:17] <ska-fan> tritium: thanks
[08:17] <tritium> ska-fan, sure :)
[08:18] <Webby`> ?
[08:18] <sashi> hmm
[08:18] <sashi> whats the command to rename stuff
[08:18] <cvt> can u tell me which to dl?   http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/download.html
[08:18] <deFrysk> sashi, mv
[08:18] <sashi> rname
[08:18] <sashi> not move
[08:18] <stjepan> hi
[08:18] <SymGeosis> thoreauputic, I did not start this argumen. =P Though I feel as you do, it is over (and if people would stop jumping down my throat I could have mentioned that I agree to use the official wiki from now on)
[08:18] <ska-fan> tritium: found nothing, but I get a mail every day with mandb: can't open /usr/share/man/man8/update-mozilla-thunderbird-chrome.8: No such file or directory
[08:18] <deFrysk> sashi, trust me
[08:18] <ska-fan> and other lines
[08:18] <ska-fan> similar
[08:18] <stjepan> which kernel config use? "default" or "686"?
[08:18] <jodua> i need help!! i am really frustrated with mp3 players..i've tried to install xmms, mplayer and nothing...just getting errors...and totem will not work either
[08:18] <tritium> sashi, man mv if you don't believe him
[08:18] <stjepan> I have Intel Celeron 1.7GHz
[08:19] <stjepan> it is much like pentium4
[08:19] <thoreauputic> SymGeosis: OK - lets leave it then :)
[08:19] <Webby`> Should I reinstall breezy?
[08:19] <bur[n] er> !tell jodua about mp3
[08:19] <deFrysk> Webby`, if you ask that you probably should
[08:19] <nalioth> Webby`: why?
[08:19] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:19] <bur[n] er> Webby`: behind a router?
[08:19] <Webby`> nalioth: My repositories are messed up
[08:19] <Webby`> bur[n] er: yes
[08:19] <tritium> ska-fan, dpkg -S <filename> can help you find which package that file belongs to, and the you can check the package out
[08:20] <stjepan> my Celeron is x86
[08:20] <bur[n] er> if you forward port 22 I'll login and fix it for ya :)
[08:20] <stjepan> is it i686??
[08:20] <nalioth> Webby`: your sources.list is messed up?
[08:20] <bur[n] er> stjepan: yes
[08:20] <stjepan> aha
[08:20] <stjepan> ok
[08:20] <stjepan> tnx
[08:20] <c0rrup7> is there a possibility that the blackscreen-"feature" of the nvidia driver can't be fixed ? i really tried everything i came across now, but still no go - last thing i can think about would be kernel rebuild, but i doubt that would fix it ... :(
[08:20] <Webby`> nalioth: When I try to log into synaptics, it doesn't list any repositories
[08:21] <Webby`> nalioth: So I guess my sources.list is messed up
[08:21] <gigaclon> I think my firefox is screwed up
[08:21] <nalioth> webby i have a fix
[08:21] <nalioth> Webby`: one should never have to reinstall *nix
[08:21] <Webby`> nalioth: Ok, what's the fix?
[08:22] <ice_1963> lol
[08:22] <thoreauputic> c0rrup7: did you follow the wiki guide for nvidia?
[08:22] <tritium> c0rrup7, follow the yellow brick wiki
[08:23] <Prowl3r> Howdy everyone
[08:23] <c0rrup7> oh indeed, and tseliot's guides, and tips and tricks on other sites as well
[08:23] <tritium> doody, Prowl3r
[08:23] <ice_1963> my firefox works good in windowmaker :0)
[08:23] <azazel_ubuntu> well i have ubuntu hoary running finally, yay :) but booting from floppy :( will have to try to fix grub up..
[08:23] <c0rrup7> the only thing ididn't do was to recompile my kernel, but i haven't touched it, so no need to i guess
[08:24] <cvt> i have doom 3
[08:24] <cvt> i need help installing it
[08:24] <cvt> it's in three cd icons on my desktop
[08:24] <dazvid> Doom 3 is poop :P don't install!!
[08:24] <cvt> i suppose i need to mount them somehow to install
[08:24] <tritium> cvt, is there a binary installer fine on the first CD?
[08:24] <cvt> installer fine?
[08:24] <cvt> not sure
[08:24] <nalioth> Webby`: hang on a minute, but while you wait, type in a terminal "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[08:24] <cvt> dazvid, it beats nothing
[08:24] <Webby`> nalioth: ok
[08:25] <dazvid> True ^
[08:25] <cvt> dazvid, what game do you recommend for ubuntu?
[08:25] <cvt> i'm a n00b
[08:25] <cvt> but i'm learning fast
[08:25] <dazvid> cvt: check out www.linux-gamers.net
[08:25] <cvt> kthx
[08:25] <dazvid> so am I cvt  :)
[08:25] <Prowl3r> Just wondering I found postfix running, as I do not run an email server on my machine I disabled it now I get an error on shutdown saying that /postfix/postfix-script since postfix is not running [failed]   I downloaded BUM (Boot Up Manager) and can't seem to find where that script
[08:25] <dazvid> Only been on ubuntu for a week
[08:25] <gigaclon> cvt, StepMania
[08:25] <cvt> good 4 u
[08:25] <cvt> ppl don't know what they're missing
[08:25] <cvt> ubuntu is awesome
[08:25] <Webby`> nalioth: It says no such drectory or file
[08:25] <cvt> debian looked kool but it was way too difficult for me
[08:26] <nalioth> Webby`: well then
[08:26] <tritium> Prowl3r, /etc/init.d
[08:26] <Prowl3r> cvt very true, I have bounced around from distro to distro (redhat, SuSe, Slackware)
[08:26] <Prowl3r> Ubuntu just seems to work well for me
[08:26] <Webby`> I love Ubuntu It's the best
[08:26] <Prowl3r> tritium Alright I'll check it out thanks
[08:27] <nalioth> Webby`: now type this "sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969"
[08:27] <tritium> Prowl3r, all initscripts are there
[08:27] <Webby`> nalioth: ok, it brought me to > command
[08:27] <ice_1963> Debian is the BEST
[08:27] <ice_1963> apt-get install xserver-xfree86
[08:28] <azazel_ubuntu> doh, I liked the old xchat colours :(
[08:28] <ice_1963> apt-get install x-window-system
[08:28] <deFrysk> ice_1963, your point ?
[08:28] <ice_1963> apt-get install gnome
[08:28] <cvt> ice_1963, are you saying that will give me a debian look to my ubuntu?
[08:29] <ice_1963> nop
[08:29] <cvt> ice_1963 Debian is the BEST
[08:29] <crimsun> Your Ubuntu already has a "Debian look" - it's based on Debian.
[08:29] <Webby`> Not it's not Ubuntu os the best
[08:29] <deFrysk> geez
[08:29] <ice_1963> it's not hard to install DEBIAN
[08:29] <SymGeosis> ice_1963, please stop.
[08:30] <deFrysk> let everyone be happy wth their prefeered distro ok ?
[08:30] <ice_1963> ok
[08:30] <Prowl3r> tritium should I rm it?
[08:30] <tritium> Prowl3r, which?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> ice_1963: this is an Ubuntu channel - pease stay on topic
[08:30] <Prowl3r> postfix
[08:30] <c0rrup7> i'd prefer a distro that would work ...
[08:30] <ice_1963> :0)
[08:30] <Prowl3r> from init.d
[08:30] <c0rrup7> :/
[08:30] <SymGeosis> ice_1963, if you think Debian (or any other distro)  is the best then it's simply because the other distros aren't for *you*.
[08:30] <c0rrup7> for me
[08:30] <tritium> Prowl3r, better to just disable the service, rather than remove the file
[08:30] <cvt> SymGeosis, well put
[08:31] <Prowl3r> Hrm how do I disable it, I've already disabled it in BUM
[08:31] <deFrysk> :D
[08:32] <cvt> but thx anyways :)
[08:32] <deFrysk> cvt, /j #dentistry
[08:32] <cvt> haha
[08:32] <tritium> Prowl3r, not sure what bum is, try update-rc.d
[08:32] <cvt> mmmmm
[08:32] <cvt> now we're talking hehe
[08:33] <Prowl3r> BUM is Boot Up Manager, it shows scrips and services that startup and shutdown on the system
[08:33] <Prowl3r> I used it to disable postfix
[08:33] <tritium> Is it in the official repos?
[08:33] <tritium> Prowl3r, are you running hoary or breezy?
[08:34] <Prowl3r> tritium, I got a hold of it via the Ubuntu unoffical documentation
[08:34] <Prowl3r> Hoary
[08:34] <tritium> Oh, I see...
[08:35] <crimsun> tritium: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=10df226089ddec4930de3609b936c247&t=42129
[08:35] <tritium> crimsun, thanks
[08:35] <Prowl3r> It's just this shutdown script that is throwing me for a loop I can't find it in BUM being called up, and kinda stuck on where it is called up
[08:35] <crimsun> np
[08:35] <nalioth> anyone know the IP of paste.ubuntu.nl   ?
[08:35] <nalioth> got a DNS not working well atm
[08:35] <crimsun> paste.ubuntulinux.nl has address 194.145.194.141
[08:36] <c0rrup7> 194.145.194.141 nalioth
[08:37] <nalioth> thanks. it seems to be down atm
[08:37] <c0rrup7> oh crimsun was faster :D
[08:37] <c0rrup7> nope it isnt down
[08:37] <MrBear> finally a ubuntu version that works
[08:38] <cvt> does ubuntu go by the same system requirements for games as windows?
[08:38] <Madpilot> nalioth: works from here, FWIW...
[08:38] <cvt> i only have 64mB of integrated vid ram
[08:38] <cvt> it probably requires 256 or 128mB
[08:38] <Prowl3r> I've found the script as it is in /etc/postfix/postfix-script
[08:38] <cvt> :(
[08:39] <Madeye> hi, guys I've upgraded to breezy, but now i got Xorg error, faild to load module keyboard
[08:39] <dazvid> cvt get lxdoom :P
[08:39] <deFrysk> :D
[08:39] <cvt> k thx
[08:39] <dazvid> Its a linux port of either doom1 or doom2, and its available through synaptic
[08:39] <deFrysk> prboom
[08:39] <Prowl3r> Was breezy released?
[08:39] <dazvid> Prowl3r: officialy no
[08:39] <cvt> dazvid, serious??? omfg that is sweet
[08:40] <Prowl3r> Ahh ok
[08:40] <Madeye> Prowl3r preview release and I have troubles with it
[08:40] <Madeye> and cant find any help
[08:40] <pprince_> cafuego: doc was great, saved hours over the one I was using.  thx again.
[08:40] <Prowl3r> Madeye I'm a noob to be honest I know enough to get me in trouble "Kernel Panic" time
[08:40] <nalioth> Madpilot: hmmm, not from here, and not from somewhere else
[08:40] <tritium> Madeye, it's not that bad...
[08:41] <Madeye> tritium well, I'm not able to start GDM yet to know if it's bad or not
[08:41] <nalioth> Madeye: the updates are coming fast, it'll resolve
[08:41] <enyc> yawn
[08:41] <tritium> Madeye, let's look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:41] <Madeye> nalioth you think I have to wait for an update?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:42] <nalioth> madeye, i've updated every 4 hours today (something new)
[08:42] <Prowl3r> OK let me ask this where are scripts called up on startup and shutdown?
[08:42] <tritium> Prowl3r, /etc/init.d
[08:43] <Madeye> tritium hmm, I'm using bitchX now, and I'm not sure how i can paste the Xorg.0.log to you
[08:44] <tritium> Madeye, can you look for any errors in it, i.e., line beginning with (EE) ?
[08:44] <jodua> Hey, how can I do an apt-get install of gstreamer-0.8-mad?  It says that it couldn't find package, and befor ethat it says that it couldn't stat source package list (2 no such file or directory) .. it does it quite a bit..
[08:44] <Madeye> tritium k one sec
[08:45] <crimsun> jodua: it's gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:45] <Prowl3r> hrm..
[08:45] <nalioth> !botsnack
[08:45] <ubotu> thanks nalioth :)
[08:45] <jodua> crimsun, that doesnt work neither.. same error
[08:45] <tritium> jodua, it's in universe
[08:45] <jodua> tritium, i dont know what that means
[08:45] <tritium> !tell jodua about repositories
[08:46] <Madeye> tritium faild to load modules "xtt" modules doesn't exists, and faild to load kayboard modules, module doesn't exists, and no input driver matching "keyboard"
[08:46] <cyphase> is it ever going to be possible for a user to install software for that user alone?
[08:46] <cyphase> using apt
[08:46] <azazel_ubuntu> anyone got some good links to grub help? or can help me set up grub?
[08:46] <azazel_ubuntu> specifically in regards to ubuntu
[08:47] <poningru> azazel_ubuntu: dude how did you set up ubuntu? straight install? or did you compile everything?
[08:47] <crimsun> cyphase: not in the sense that you're probably thinking. Remember you can always do tricks with chroot and debootstrap.
[08:47] <Madeye> tritium any idea?
[08:47] <azazel_ubuntu> I can boot ubuntu and winXP fine from a boot floppy created in the installer... so I ran grub-install /dev/sda to install grub to my hard disk. and while grub comes up ok (presents the menus), it wont boot any OS (it thinks winXP is on ext2, ubuntu is on unknown partition 0x7), etc
[08:48] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, straight install
[08:48] <tritium> Madeye, not really...
[08:48] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, but i installed grub to a floppy because, previously, when I let the installer install to the mbr, it broke things, and nothing would boot
[08:48] <Madeye> any suggestion then
[08:48] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, so, I can boot with a floppy, but I really want to install grub to /dev/sda and have it boot both ubuntu and winxp (XP is on my PATA drive, Ubuntu is on my SATA drive)
[08:48] <nalioth> Madeye: learn the joys of CLI existence
[08:48] <tritium> Madeye, I'm not sure
[08:49] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, /boot/grub/menu.lst looks fine to me... i have no idea why it didn't work
[08:49] <Madeye> nalioth got some suggestions for me?
[08:49] <nalioth> Madeye: the pkg WILL come down, be patient "breezy is broken"
[08:49] <nalioth> Madeye: links (or variant) for web browsing, mutt for mail, blah blah
[08:49] <Gyoza> Eh, Breezy is broken?
[08:50] <Madeye> nalioth  i'm patient, hmm any expected time when they will fix it? you know it's not easy to live without GDM
[08:50] <nalioth> Gyoza: until next month, yes
[08:50] <nalioth> Madeye: tried kdm?
[08:50] <bz0b> hey y'all
[08:50] <Madeye> nalioth i don't have KdE to have kdm
[08:50] <nalioth> Madeye: i installed breezy on my ibook last night, and every 4 hours today there's been an update
[08:50] <Gyoza> Heh, a guy just asked me if he should try 5.04 or 5.10. I said go ahead and try 5.10.
[08:50] <nalioth> Madeye: i'm offering suggestions, there's more than gdm
[08:50] <tritium> Madeye, not everyone is experiencing that problem.
[08:51] <bz0b> Gyoza, well if a guy has to ask you to use 5.10, then he probably shouldn't use 5.10
[08:51] <tritium> Gyoza, it's in pretty good shape
[08:51] <Madeye> naliothwell, I can apt kdm now, but the point can I use kdm to login to gnome ?
[08:51] <Prowl3r> tritium let me ask ya something if I remove postscript from init.d would that get rid of it?
[08:51] <tritium> postscript?
[08:51] <nalioth> Madeye: yes you can
[08:51] <poningru> hmm
[08:51] <Prowl3r> Yea
[08:52] <c0rrup7> gtg, cya @ll
[08:52] <poningru> !grub
[08:52] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:52] <bz0b> later c0rrup7
[08:52] <tritium> Prowl3r, you mean postfix?
[08:52] <poningru> azazel_ubuntu: did you read through those?
[08:52] <Prowl3r> fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running
[08:52] <bz0b> does anyone here use azureus?
[08:53] <Prowl3r> Thats the error from the system log
[08:53] <jodua> it keeps complaining about keys or something and stats.. whats that about?
[08:53] <Prowl3r> Process : postfix/postfix-script
[08:53] <bob2> please do not tell people to go to #debian
[08:53] <bob2> ever
[08:53] <bob2> unless they are using Debian
[08:53] <bob2> thanks
[08:53] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, just doing that now..
[08:53] <Prowl3r> And that is the script
[08:53] <poningru> hehe
[08:53] <poningru> #debian people do not like end users like you and me
[08:54] <bob2> no
[08:54] <cvt> do you know which one i should get; do i get i386?  http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/lxdoom
[08:54] <jodua> end users?
[08:54] <bob2> they don't like people asking for help with non-Debian OSs
[08:54] <bob2> which is fine
[08:54] <bob2> so please don't do that again
[08:54] <Gyoza> Is there a floppy boot image in the CD?
[08:54] <bob2> Gyoza: no
[08:54] <Gyoza> k
[08:55] <Xorlev> Pssst...Debian people secretly practice satanic rituals requiring them to be evil to other distros in order to maintain their development.
[08:55] <Xorlev> (joke)
[08:55] <cvt> p4 3gHz 1.18gB ram ubuntu
[08:55] <bob2> #debian has about 3 actual developers in it, out of 600 people
[08:56] <azazel_ubuntu> poningru, none of it seems to help. grub loads okay, displays a menu. but has errors when I try to boot an OS. I'll try again and write them down :/
[08:56] <brad[] > So when are you guys going to stick a working version of evolution-connector in the repos? :P
[08:56] <bz0b> does anyone here use that program musik to download their napster music?
[08:56] <bob2> brad[] : have you filed a bug about it being broken?
[08:57] <cvt> i forgot to use synaptic
[08:57] <bob2> bz0b: napster has been dead for about 3 years now
[08:57] <brad[] > bob2: One's been filed, yes
[08:57] <brad[] > bob2: It's a known issue too, as listed in the ximian-connector changelog
[08:57] <bz0b> bob2, where have you been?
[08:57] <bob2> bz0b: ?
[08:57] <brad[] > bob2: 2.2.3 fixes crippling issues, yet 2.2.1 is all that's available for installation in Hoary :(
[08:57] <poningru> bz0b: napster uses a DRM tech that will not work unless a) they allow it b) you/others hack it
[08:57] <bob2> brad[] : er, hoary of course will not be updated
[08:57] <bz0b> poningru, well that is why i want the musik client
[08:58] <bz0b> poningru, they say it removes the DRM
[08:58] <brad[] > bob2: Even to fix something that doesn't work?
[08:58] <poningru> bz0b: link?
[08:58] <bob2> brad[] : it doesn't work at all, against any exchange server in the world?
[08:58] <bz0b> poningru, look on digg.com
[08:58] <poningru> hmm
[08:58] <bz0b> digg it up
[08:58] <bob2> bz0b: this sounds a) like a violation of copyright laws, and b) unrelated to ubuntu
[08:58] <Prowl3r> tritium thanks for the help I think I know what happened
[08:58] <Prowl3r> brb
[08:59] <bz0b> well i pay for it
[08:59] <brad[] > bob2: Anyone using Exchange and Global Address Lists is toast, basically (essentially everyone does, to a greater or lesser extent)
[08:59] <cvt> i installed lxdoom from synaptic.  what do i do now?
[08:59] <cvt> i have a feeling i'm not through yet
[08:59] <bob2> brad[] : breezy has 2.4.0 and is already in beta
[08:59] <bob2> and is out next month
[08:59] <bob2> you're welcome to ask for hoary to be fixed, tho
[09:00] <brad[] > bob2: Well, at least relief is in sight then ;)
[09:00] <bz0b> bob2, do you recommend using ubuntuguide.org
[09:00] <bob2> bz0b: not unless you know which bits to ignore
[09:01] <bz0b> bob2, like the limewire crap and stuff?
[09:01] <bz0b> bob2, i am mainly using it for the codecs, repos, and some little things
[09:01] <mikey> i've found ubuntuguide.org to be valuable, what should i avoid in it?
[09:01] <bob2> like the "OMG LOLZ USE THE BACKPORTS AND RANDOM NON_FREE SOFTARE REPOSITORIES" bits
[09:02] <bz0b> oh
[09:02] <bob2> which would be less of a problem if the backports people looked more closely at QA
[09:02] <bz0b> are the backports bad?
[09:02] <bob2> they're not very carefully done, afaict
[09:02] <bz0b> oh
[09:02] <bz0b> wow
[09:03] <bz0b> i am downloading pretty much all of these things from them
[09:03] <mikey> that, i have noticed.  but still, the guide would seem to be helpful for many newbies.
[09:03] <crimsun> bz0b: you'd be better off just running Breezy
[09:03] <bz0b> really?
[09:03] <bob2> yes, much of it is useful
[09:03] <bz0b> already?
[09:03] <tritium> mikey, the UserDocumentation of the wiki is quite good
[09:03] <bob2> which is what makes the minor failings all the more annoying
[09:03] <mikey> that's a goos question... do you all think breezy is ready to use?
[09:04] <bz0b> hmm, well its just i am the sort of person who really doesnt like beta stuff, mainly because it is BETA!
[09:04] <mikey> Nod, the wiki has helped me much as well.
[09:04] <Madeye> bob2 DON'T upgrade
[09:05] <tritium> Madeye, like I said, I don't think your issue is common
[09:05] <Madeye> kevogod WEll said.
[09:05] <bz0b> kevogod, yes i agree just as much
[09:05] <Madeye> tritium it's seems to be common, I have just checked ubuntuforums.org and found some threads about it
[09:05] <bob2> Madeye: what?
[09:05] <Madeye> bob2  don't upgrade! yet
[09:05] <bob2> ...
[09:06] <Madeye> bob2 else you will end up with bitchx, lynx, and mutt
[09:06] <mikey> question:  what do you all suggest if i want to try a different window manager?
[09:06] <bob2> I'd like to think I'd kow how to fix the minor remaining problems
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Madeye: I think bob2 can handle it ;)
[09:06] <tritium> Madeye, I'm running breezy now
[09:06] <bob2> Madeye: I'd hope not, bitchx is terrible and never installed on any machine I use
[09:06] <Madeye> thoreauputic Why he can and I cant?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Madeye: he's rather experienced :)
[09:06] <bz0b> bob2, true that, if i use CLI, i would use irssi!
[09:06] <Madeye> bob2 I wish you the best, but i'm just giving you my experience with it now
[09:07] <Shorty`> I can't seem to get fglrx workign in breezy, anyone had similar issues (the kernel module isn't recognised by the xdriver)
[09:07] <bz0b> wow i am drunk
[09:07] <mikey> hah
[09:07] <Madeye> thoreauputic really? i'm not sure how his experience would help him to fix xorg bugs
[09:07] <crimsun> Shorty`: version mismatch?
[09:07] <bz0b> i drank almost a whole bottle of absolute vodka
[09:07] <bob2> Madeye: I've used debian unstable for 4 years, and ran ubuntu unstable since june last year
[09:07] <crimsun> Shorty`: as in expecting 4 but found 5? if so, that's known and an upstream issue that has been reported to them.
[09:07] <bob2> Shorty`: with the ubuntu firegl version, or some other one?
[09:07] <brownie17> aftertaf: how do i get sound in firefox
[09:08] <Madeye> bob2 then you are the right man who can help me ?
[09:08] <brownie17> can anyone tell me why sound doesnt work in firefox?
[09:08] <bob2> Madeye: if you don't know how to fix it yourself, then you shouldn't be using it
[09:08] <mikey> brownie17:  what kind of sound?  media files?  flash?
[09:08] <bob2> brownie17: do you mean "I use GNOME, and sound works there, but Flash animations don't have sound"?
[09:08] <brownie17> mikey: any, but i think only flash isnt working
[09:08] <brownie17> bob2: yes that's what i mean
[09:09] <Madeye> bob2 hmm I agree, but I have tried Hoary unstable and it was fine, it was easier to shoot it's troubles
[09:09] <bob2> Madeye: yes, hoary was unusually stable during it's development
[09:09] <cafuego> bob2: Mop & bucket
[09:09] <brownie17> bob2: why isnt it working
[09:09] <Madeye> bob2 now I cant find any solution to fix faild to load "keyboard" "xtt" modules
[09:09] <bob2> brownie17: pkill esd, reload the page
[09:09] <bob2> brownie17: because esd stole your sound device and flash is crap and didn't notice
[09:10] <cevizoglu> bob2: I wouldn't consider being stable unusual for an OS
[09:10] <bob2> Madeye: and there's been nothing in the BTS or on the ubunut-devel list about that?
[09:10] <brownie17> bob2: howd o i use ALSA instead then?
[09:10] <bob2> cevizoglu: for the development version of ubuntu, it has proven to be slightly unusual
[09:10] <bob2> brownie17: that won't help
[09:10] <bur[n] er> gdm works fine for me
[09:10] <mikey> brownie17:  check out the walkthrough on ubuntuguide.org for sound issues, it helped me
[09:10] <Madeye> bob2 solution? no or at least i couldn't find any
[09:10] <bur[n] er> in fact, breezy works relatively fine for me
[09:10] <bob2> unless flash can do ALSA now
[09:10] <bob2> Madeye: as above, I'm not going to fix it for you, sorry
[09:10] <Madeye> bob2  but found some threads complaining about that
[09:10] <bob2> Madeye: on the forums?
[09:10] <Madeye> bob2  ok calm down
[09:10] <bob2> wtf
[09:11] <mikey> bob2:  i'm using ALSA and flash sound works fine
[09:11] <Madeye> bob2 last time i checked there was nothing
[09:11] <Madeye> lemme check again
[09:11] <bob2> ignore the forums
[09:11] <bob2> they're unlikely to have useful information on the topic
[09:11] <bob2> mikey: as in it uses ALSA/dmix now?  or did you make it use esd?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> bob2: alsa/dmix seems to work OK with flash here
[09:13] <crimsun> but did you symlink libesd.so.1?
[09:13] <crimsun> if so, that's technically still broken
[09:13] <thoreauputic> crimsun: ah, probably yes - ben a while but that rings a bell
[09:14] <crimsun> the flash plugin will work with alsa without the libesd.so.1 symlink only if one invokes firefox with ''aoss firefox''
[09:14] <Madeye> hmm well I think the best now for me, is to rollback to hoary
[09:14] <thoreauputic> I see
[09:15] <Lichte> is it possible to play .mp4 files in totem ??
[09:15] <MrBear> I got world of warcraft whats the best way to run it on linux
[09:16] <crimsun> Lichte: yes, you need gstreamer0.8-faad
[09:16] <Lichte> crimsun: I think I've installed that
[09:17] <crimsun> MrBear: probably under Cedega: http://www.cedega.com
[09:17] <crimsun> crazy talios
[09:17] <Lichte> crimsun: it is installed
[09:17] <kevogod> You might be able to simply use WINE.
[09:17] <MrBear> cant need to pay for it
[09:17] <cafuego> MrBear: Then you can't run it.
[09:17] <dazvid> MrBear: check out http://www.linux-gamers.net
[09:18] <kevogod> MrBear, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-246098.html
[09:18] <tritium> cafuego, being from a spanish-speaking state, your nick always reminds me of fires in california (CA + fuego)
[09:19] <Lichte> maybe totem is broken
[09:19] <bob2> anyway, I only came back to beat someone about giving terrible advice
[09:19] <bob2> adios
[09:19] <tritium> see you bob2
[09:20] <Lichte> is there an extra repository for breezy ??
[09:20] <crimsun> Lichte: make sure gstreamer's registry recognizes the plugin
[09:21] <cafuego> stupid irc logs are spamming my google search
[09:21] <crimsun> Lichte: ala gst-register-0.8
[09:21] <nalioth> tritium: are you sure his nick isnt wishful thinking?
[09:21] <talios> crimsun, finally got rid of fedora :)
[09:21] <tritium> nalioth, I hope not...
[09:21] <Lichte> crimsun: registry ?
[09:21] <crimsun> talios: painful transition?
[09:21] <crimsun> Lichte: see above command
[09:22] <cafuego> tritium: "Cafuego" used to be a coffee product in holland... can't find it in google anymore though. admittedly it's been off the market for nearly a decade...
[09:22] <talios> crimsun, only in that I accidentally removed all kernel rpms and rebooted ;p  had to move my HDD to a different IDE interface (ubuntu doesn't like that promise FastTrak100)
[09:22] <talios> crimsun, other than that, its a dream :p
[09:22] <Lichte> hmmm
[09:22] <talios> althou, my hoary iso was corrupt, so I'm running breezy like a madman :p
[09:22] <tritium> cafuego, ah, thanks for the background :)
[09:23] <bz0b> just a debate, is gnome pronouced g gnome or just gnome
[09:23] <cafuego> tritium: I still have the branded coffee tin, of course :-)
[09:23] <bob2> g-nome
[09:23] <tritium> nice :)
[09:23] <sobersabre> hi guys where do I read how to install transcode etc. stuff ( I actually need avifix, but I guess it is there )
[09:23] <cafuego> bz0b: WHichever way works best for you, it'd FREE oss after all.
[09:23] <dhart> hi. anyone up for an apache2 question?
[09:23] <bob2> dhart: best to just ask your question
[09:24] <thoreauputic> bz0b: some of use prefer the garden variety pronunciation ;)
[09:24] <bz0b> i see
[09:24] <bz0b> thanks for the opinions
[09:25] <Lichte> is there an extra repository for breezy ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> bz0b: but canonically, bob2 is right, as usual :)
[09:25] <dhart> sure, thanks. I'm doing apache2 for the first time. v.nice config setup. apache2 is defaulting to my first vhost, not to the default vhost. strange.
[09:25] <bob2> Lichte: what does that mean?
[09:25] <bob2> Lichte: it uses a different archive suite to hoary, yes, but it's in the same location and has the same sections.
[09:25] <Lichte> bob2: so I don't change the "hoary" to "breezy" ?
[09:26] <bob2> Lichte: that's one thing you do
[09:26] <Lichte> bob2: I did that and it doesn't work
[09:26] <bob2> "doesn't work" is not a useful description of a problem...
[09:26] <Lichte> bob2: apt-get says it's not there
[09:26] <bob2> no it doesn't
[09:27] <bob2> it gives you a specific
[09:27] <bob2> error
[09:27] <bob2> paste it and /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:27] <dhart> for example, browsing to http://69.55.225.136/ should show the apache2 default page, but shows my 1st vhost instead.
[09:27] <Lichte> bob2: I've deleted the line already
[09:27] <bob2> Lichte: that's not very useful
[09:28] <Lichte> bob2: it's better than all the error output I was getting from apt-get
[09:29] <ale_> what's the command ubuntu's installer uses to detect your sound card and automatically download the drivers?
[09:29] <bob2> Lichte: if you want help, change it back and ive us the information I asked for
[09:29] <bob2> ale_: it doesn't download anythying, the drivers are a part of the kernel-image
[09:30] <toby> i'm an ubuntu beginner, what's a good text to start me off?
[09:30] <ale_> bob2, so it basically comes with drivers for just any sound card?
[09:30] <bob2> ale_: almost all of them, yes
[09:30] <thoreauputic> !tell toby about docs
[09:31] <ale_> ok how do i tell my debian which used to be ubuntu to install the drivers again?
[09:31] <toby> ?
[09:31] <Crimguy> toby are you a linux noob?
[09:31] <toby> any book on debian is good?
[09:31] <toby> yes
[09:31] <thoreauputic> toby: did you see ubotu 's /msg ?
[09:32] <toby> no
[09:32] <DeepB> anyone here running breezy & kde would be willing to test creating a folder with []  on its name and trying to get inside it using konqueror, please?
[09:32] <Feral_Kid> I found in the package archives that fwbulder 2.0.7 was available. But apt-get will only give me version 2.0.3... How do I get 4.0.1 to access packages in the testing archieve, if that is possible?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:32] <bob2> ale_: that question sounds terribly confused
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !docs
[09:32] <ubotu> from memory, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:32] <Crimguy> I haven't looked at the most recent version, but O'Reilly's Running LInux was a great primer.
[09:32] <ale_> this is what happened: i had ubuntu. Then i changed the package servers to debian's. And then i did apt-get upgrade. Things are fine, but i have no sound :/
[09:32] <bob2> Feral_Kid: you mean you're using 4.10?  you don't play games forcing it to use 2.0.7, you just update your whole system.
[09:32] <Crimguy> I'd consider getting a copy of their book on bash as well.
[09:32] <thoreauputic> toby: see ubotu 's url for an index of the ubuntu wiki
[09:32] <bob2> ale_: that was extraordinarily silly
[09:33] <ale_> bob2 i know that now, but i was advised it was going to be ok. What can i do other than kill the person who told me it was going to be compatible?
[09:33] <Crimguy> Toby - and do a lot of google searches ;-D
[09:33] <toby> thanks ... on my way
[09:33] <bob2> ale_: who on earth told you that would be ok?
[09:33] <bob2> ale_: and you need to figure out what on earth the problem is before you can fix it
[09:33] <Feral_Kid> bob2: Upgrade via dist-upgrade?
[09:34] <tritium> ale_, no need to talk about killing
[09:34] <bob2> Feral_Kid: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[09:34] <ale_> tritium  i would kill -9 him if i could!!!
[09:34] <Feral_Kid> bob2: Thanks....
[09:35] <ale_> if i set the package servers back to ubuntu's and upgrade again... would that be even sillier than what i've done?
[09:35] <bob2> that will likely break it more
[09:35] <bob2> reinstalling may be simpler if you don't know enough about how sound works to fix it
[09:36] <ale_> linux is so amazing. If you break it, it's your fault. And even if you break it, it still works 99%
[09:36] <ale_> bob2 thanks for the advice, i think im going to do that
[09:37] <bob2> ale_: if you wanted to dig more, you'd find out what was failing
[09:37] <bob2> ie if the driver does not exist, if it's not being loaded, or if somehting higher is confused
[09:37] <DeepB> anyone here running breezy & kde would be willing to create a folder with []  on its name and try to get inside it using konqueror, please?
[09:38] <bob2> perhaps #kubuntu would be a better place to ask
[09:38] <adam_> hi, how to change screen resolution (X) ???
[09:38] <bob2> you don't, generally
[09:38] <nalioth> !tell adam_ about resolution
[09:38] <poningru> yeah ubuntu knows whats good for you, you better stick to it
[09:39] <poningru> ;)
[09:39] <poningru> !resolution
[09:39] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:39] <poningru> nalioth: when you do the tell command you have to specify ubotu
[09:39] <poningru> for example
[09:39] <poningru> ubotu: tell nalioth about the resolution
[09:39] <poningru> err
[09:39] <thoreauputic> poningru: erm.. no
[09:39] <poningru> ubotu: tell nalioth about resolution
[09:40] <poningru> wait the other works too?
[09:40] <poningru> cause it didnt for me
[09:40] <thoreauputic> poningru:  ! is all you need
[09:40] <poningru> I tried that many moons ago
[09:40] <nalioth> !tell poningru about ubotu
[09:40] <adam_> ok, thanks
[09:40] <poningru> failed for me
[09:40] <thoreauputic> !tell poningru about ubotu
[09:40] <poningru> thoreauputic: noooooo
[09:40] <Feral_Kid> Bob2: Sorry, I must have been slipping into a light coma... I meant to say that I was using 5.04... Too busy messing with Centos earlier...
[09:41] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:41] <Maschine> Hi! I'm trying to install Breezy Preview on a Raid1 System (2x4,6GB@Adaptec Controller) but after copying and configuring the packages I get an error "Installation failed" the status bar is at 75% saying "Creating device files". Any ideas? Thanks!
[09:41] <gorilla> !tell gorilla about ubotu
[09:41] <Feral_Kid> Bob2: How how do I get fwbuilder-2.0.7
[09:41] <bob2> Maschine: is that real raid or software raid?
[09:41] <poningru> Maschine: did you make sure that the disc isnt bad?
[09:41] <Maschine> software raid, bob
[09:42] <Maschine> poningru, debian installation worked before...
[09:42] <poningru> Maschine: ?
[09:42] <poningru> I am talking about the cd
[09:42] <thoreauputic> meh xchat sucks... back to irssi
[09:42] <poningru> sorry
[09:42] <comfac> hi guys
[09:42] <Maschine> Oh, sorry, should be ok, as it starts copying?!?
[09:42] <comfac> im just new here...chekin with the options
[09:43] <comfac> can we chat with yahoo using ubuntu?
[09:43] <poningru> Maschine: that has been a problem for many people and is/was a heated debate in the mailing list
[09:43] <stjepan> hi
[09:43] <poningru> so make sure that you check the burnt disc before you install
[09:43] <stjepan> cam I use portage instead apt with ubuntu?
[09:43] <Maschine> poningru, what is the best way to check?
[09:44] <poningru> just use a competent cd burner
[09:44] <poningru> :)
[09:44] <poningru> k3b I think checks automagically
[09:44] <poningru> not sure
[09:44] <Maschine> lol, ok
[09:44] <poningru> hold on let me see
[09:45] <sobersabre> how can I get avifix running on my hoary ?
[09:45] <sobersabre> is there a video related repositiory ?
[09:45] <Feral_Kid> Alright, any one know how to get the lastest version of fwbuilder from archieves?
[09:45] <Xorlev> Video codecs and such should be in the backports and extras repos.
[09:46] <tritium> stjepan, you can use apt to build from source as well
[09:46] <dazvid> The w32codecs are in the multiverse
[09:46] <poningru> Maschine: yeah k3b has an option to check written data
[09:46] <poningru> pretty sure that will suffice
[09:46] <poningru> if not I think the installer has a checker
[09:46] <thoreauputic> dazvid: no, in hoary extras
[09:47] <dazvid> eh? I couldnt find them in there ;/
[09:47] <dazvid> wait
[09:47] <Maschine> Ok, poningru, will try again with a new install cd. Thanks for your help!
[09:47] <cvt> does anyone know what to do after dl'ing lxdoom?
[09:47] <cvt> i'm stuck
[09:47] <poningru> Maschine: np
[09:48] <dazvid> Ah yes its name is hoary extras.. but it is a multiverse :P I just got confrused ;
[09:48] <Madpilot> cvt: "lxdoom" at a command prompt doesn't start it?
[09:48] <Red_Bullet> please tell me how can i play music in console
[09:48] <sobersabre> Xorlev, Thanks
[09:48] <sobersabre> Xorlev, so you mean dvdrip etc. is there ?
[09:48] <Madpilot> dazvid: Multiverse is a specific repo - hoary-extra is a different one...
[09:48] <cvt> Madpilot, i'll try it . i'm a little new. iforget about tasks like that.
[09:49] <cvt> IWAD not found
[09:49] <althepcman> Hi all anyone familar with breezy
[09:49] <cevizoglu> cvt: where are you stuck?
[09:49] <dazvid> Wait now im just confused..
[09:49] <cevizoglu> cvt: install freedoom
[09:49] <cvt> i have lxdoom installed from synaptic
[09:49] <cvt> ok i'll install freedom now
[09:49] <poningru> cvt: hold on let me see
[09:49] <ugo> hey guys
[09:49] <althepcman> hi
[09:49] <tritium> althepcman, yes
[09:49] <cevizoglu> cvt: apt-get install freedoom
[09:49] <dazvid> so this command here... "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" enables: hoary-extras, main, univrese and multiverse reops' ?
[09:50] <dazvid> universe*
[09:50] <ugo> i need to install gcc 3.2
[09:50] <althepcman> I have done a dist-update and my nvida drivers don't work
[09:50] <ugo> badly
[09:50] <thoreauputic> dazvid: no, it's a repo with various sections
[09:50] <sly> right then whos up for a about an hour helping me getting somthing working
[09:50] <sobersabre> althepcman, it is ok
[09:50] <cvt> "are you root?"
[09:50] <dazvid> Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up
[09:50] <Red_Bullet> how can i play music in console ???
[09:50] <cevizoglu> cvt: sudo apt-get install freedoom
[09:51] <ugo> it's not in repo...anyone know where i can get a deb package for it
[09:51] <dazvid> Thats the only thing with HOWTO's .. dont really explain WHAT you are doing. Just tell you how to do it
[09:51] <dwerf> what's breezy?
[09:51] <althepcman> Hi sobersabre, how is that
[09:51] <cevizoglu> cvt: were you using synaptic before?
[09:51] <poningru> cvt: typing 'lxdoom' should do
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: mp3blaster, cplay, ogg123 ...
[09:51] <poningru> cvt: just type lxdoom into your terminal
[09:51] <poningru> and press enter
[09:51] <sobersabre> althepcman, there can be only 1 installation of drivers
[09:51] <cevizoglu> poningru: it won't work for two reasons
[09:51] <cevizoglu> poningru: at least
[09:51] <poningru> cevizoglu: please explain
[09:51] <sobersabre> you need to install a newer/other version, and the installer will clean up the mess
[09:51] <poningru> !tell dwerf about breazy
[09:51] <cevizoglu> poningru: 1. /usr/games isn't by default in search paths
[09:52] <poningru> !tell dwerf about breezy
[09:52] <cvt> yes, i installed lxdoom
[09:52] <althepcman> yes, but removed them and tried again and still didn't work
[09:52] <cevizoglu> poningru: 2. he has to install freedoom
[09:52] <cvt> but now starting it?
[09:52] <sobersabre> althepcman, have you done "dist-update" or "dist-upgrade" ?
[09:52] <ugo> help anyone?
[09:52] <althepcman> dist upgrade
[09:52] <dazvid> cvt probably best to just goto the lxdoom website
[09:52] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic,  10Q very much
[09:52] <cvt> i just installed freedoom
[09:52] <cvt> ok np
[09:52] <poningru> cevizoglu: its has a link in /usr/sbin
[09:52] <Red_Bullet> and how can i have mouse withowt X in console
[09:52] <sobersabre> althepcman, and what does X say about it ? are the agp drivers loaded ?
[09:53] <poningru> ugo: whats wrong?
[09:53] <sobersabre> Red_Bullet, apt-get install gpm
[09:53] <poningru> ugo: hold on
[09:53] <cvt> i've been able to figure everything else out with help.  ubuntu has been working great.
[09:53] <cevizoglu> poningru: it does?  it didn't for me, or I don't have /usr/sbin in my search paths
[09:53] <cvt> i'm sure i'll get it.
[09:53] <althepcman> it says: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[09:53] <althepcman> and it is installed
[09:54] <Red_Bullet> and how can i see pictures in console
[09:54] <poningru> cevizoglu: yeah typing lxdoom gave me an error about my vid card so assuming it worked
[09:54] <cevizoglu> poningru: did you change your search paths?
[09:54] <poningru> cevizoglu: no
[09:55] <cevizoglu> poningru: are you on breezy or hoary?
[09:55] <poningru> cevizoglu: hoary
[09:55] <poningru> cevizoglu: hmm hold on I may have changed my search paths
[09:55] <cevizoglu> poningru: huh, I wonder if I munged by search paths  :(
[09:55] <cevizoglu> s/by/my
[09:55] <poningru> nope
[09:55] <poningru> never touched it
[09:55] <poningru> you know what we should have
[09:55] <althepcman> I even did a reinstall of haory and then a dist-upgrade, although I did use my backup apt repository
[09:55] <poningru> keywords for important files
[09:56] <althepcman> ^hoary
[09:57] <cevizoglu> when I try to run lxdoom, I get the error:
[09:57] <cevizoglu> I_InitGraphics:(using MITShm)I_FindMode: Unable to find supported visual settings
[09:57] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: install zgv
[09:57] <cevizoglu> not exactly sure what that means
[09:58] <poningru> ugo: http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/gcc.html?hl=de&cx=0::
[09:58] <cevizoglu> maybe it's expecting 640x480 res.?
[09:58] <GNU-GPL> hello
[09:58] <poningru> cevizoglu: yeah i get some error about my vid card being aweful or something
[09:59] <poningru> woah
[09:59] <cevizoglu> poningru: does the error sound the same as mine?
[09:59] <poningru> an IPv6 er
[09:59] <poningru> no
[09:59] <poningru> hold on let me see after installing freedoom
[09:59] <cevizoglu> the freedoom error says you need an IWAD
[10:00] <nalioth> do you still need the wads after installing freedoom?
[10:01] <cevizoglu> nalioth: freedoom is free wads
[10:01] <GNU-GPL> nalioth, yes, you still need to get the free wads (on the same site)
[10:02] <poningru> cevizoglu: everything works after freedoom
[10:02] <poningru> which makes no sense to me
[10:02] <poningru> but whatever
[10:02] <tritium> tissues wadded up in the trash are also free wads
[10:03] <poningru> tritium: no they are the property of the content owner unless otherwise noted
[10:03] <althepcman> any suggestions
[10:03] <tritium> poningru, but they discarded them ;)
[10:04] <Madpilot> tritium: so they're abandonware now?
[10:04] <nalioth> so i need 'freedoom' and <insertfavoritdoompkg> ?
[10:05] <tritium> indeed, Madpilot
[10:07] <helloyo> suddenly totem(-xine) has rejected every file type, saying there is no plugin to handle it. i recently filled my harddrive (emptied some of it now). how do i fix this?
[10:07] <sly> ok, ive got my internet connected from eth2 ........ and a laptop connected to eth1 ......................... they can see each swap/files etc , trying to get the laptop onto the net, trying to use firestarter just stops them seeing each other no matter what settings i use, if i try to use firestarter to share the net , it spits outs errors about eth1 been not ready
[10:09] <jouni> Hi Does anyone know how to edit /etc/modules in livecd before network detection.
[10:09] <Seveas> sly, make sure you set eth2 as the outgoing interface and eth1 as the local net
[10:09] <Seveas> and that they are both up
[10:13] <sly> cheers, Seveas ................. will take another look, been kiling me for the past 2 hours since i woke up at 7, trying to get the girlfriend connected is a pain in the ass, why cant she just sit n watch tv :)
[10:14] <pl_ice> hi
[10:15] <Alex_BO> HELLO!Is there a program that print a quote at every login?
[10:16] <helloyo> totem-xine suddenly has no plugins, whats going on?
[10:16] <Seveas> sly, you can also start NAT manually
[10:17] <Seveas> ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/start_nat (for inspiration)
[10:18] <pl_ice> hi, what can i use to make iso/rip vcd's ? k3b does not like multiple tracks
[10:19] <WhiteRabbit> pl_ice, you mean back up a dvd?
[10:19] <WhiteRabbit> pl_ice, you could use mythtv to clone a perfect dvd or dvd::rip
[10:20] <sander> does it exist any easy program.. for downloading pictures from digital cameras?
[10:20] <pl_ice> WhiteRabbit , no just normal VCD, k3b says it has multiple tracks and won't touch it,
[10:20] <pl_ice> i'm trying now vcdtools
[10:21] <samu2> is there a dc++ client for ubuntu?
[10:22] <nalioth> samu2: dggui
[10:22] <nalioth> samu2: dcgui, sorry
[10:22] <samu2> nalioth, thanks ill give it a try
[10:23] <pl_ice> one more  question ;) anyone tried to hookup nokia phone? i can't get around 1 thing...
[10:24] <vern401> ow d yo og  as o  b?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> vern401: erm...
[10:25] <_tiago> <h1 id="title"><a title="Click to do a full-text search for this title" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?action=fullsearch&amp;value=linkto%3A%22BreezyUpgradeNotes%22&amp;context=180">BreezyUpgradeNotes</a></h1>
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[10:25] <thoreauputic> _tiago: don't paste in here
[10:25] <_tiago> can some one advise me of some thing? i followed the "Breezy Upgrade Notes" and it said 81 packages wernt installed
[10:26] <_tiago> woops sorry
[10:26] <xophEr> hi! when I try to dist-upgrade I get this: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:26] <xophEr>   ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core
[10:26] <xophEr> , why is this and what should I do to fix it?
[10:26] <_tiago> i think xophEr is trying to do the same thing as me
[10:26] <Grizz> Is there a way to replace sysklogd with syslog-ng without removing ubuntu-minimal in the process?
[10:27] <nalioth> xophEr: at this time "breezy is broken" i.e. in the last stages of developement
[10:27] <nalioth> xophEr: those pkgs dont currently have their dependencies satisfied
[10:27] <xophEr> ok, so Ill just wait and itll work later. :)
[10:27] <nalioth> xophEr: yes, patience will work well
[10:28] <_tiago> so we cant compleatly upgrade form hoary to breezy just yet?
[10:28] <Garyu> guys, my Ubuntu HDD went bad (SMART Bad status), so now I want to transfer it to a new HDD. What is the easiest way to do that?
[10:28] <popey> _tiago: you can, but you have to expect stuff to break
[10:29] <_tiago> what if we download the new iso and do a fresh install?
[10:29] <popey> Garyu: boot to a live cd and dd from one to the other?
[10:29] <_tiago> could the problem also be that im using   kubuntu?
[10:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Shouldn't be
[10:29] <Garyu> popey: doh, the live cd.. what a solution :)
[10:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Just install the kde stuff via SYnaptic
[10:29] <Garyu> why did I not think aout that?
[10:29] <Garyu> do the drive sizes have to be the same?
[10:29] <Grizz> Shouldn't ubuntu-minimal depend on sysklogd *or* system-log-daemon so one can easily use a different logger without removing ubuntu-minimal and all the problems that might bring in the future?
[10:30] <nalioth> _tiago: right now, breezy is still in developement
[10:30] <cvt> why do people have poor taste in music?
[10:30] <cvt> unlike me
[10:30] <nalioth> _tiago: it matters not what you are using, breezy is still very rough around the edges for all of us
[10:30] <_tiago> nalioth: fair enough
[10:30] <Garyu> cvt: #define poor taste?
[10:30] <_tiago> cvt: thats personal preference
[10:30] <popey> cvt: same reason people have a poor taste in desktop operating systems. They know no better.
[10:30] <LethAL-Rocks> Heh
[10:30] <_tiago> lol
[10:30] <cvt> right
[10:30] <cvt> lol
[10:30] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know what this is? "If you don't have a windows installation accessible from Wine,
[10:30] <LethAL-Rocks> you perhaps forgot to create a [mci]  section in system.ini
[10:30] <LethAL-Rocks> "
[10:31] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: what you trying to run under wine?
[10:31] <Garyu> popey: I guess I also have to copy the swap partitition to the new drive, but do the sizes of these drives have to be the same, or does it not really matter?
[10:31] <LethAL-Rocks> Well... mirc, I dunno why
[10:31] <popey> LethAL-Rocks:  no, me neither!
[10:31] <LethAL-Rocks> But that could popup elsewhere I guess
[10:32] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: have you run winesetup?
[10:32] <cvt> does anyone here have a really cool mouse?
[10:32] <LethAL-Rocks> noire, but thanks :)
[10:32] <LethAL-Rocks> no*
[10:32] <cvt> i saw some
[10:32] <cvt> LethAL-Rocks, i hate when that happens
[10:32] <cvt> but nick complete is good
[10:33] <popey> cvt, i quite like my IBM mouse at work http://popey.com/gallery/Nokia/Image241
[10:33] <popey> obligatory blue LEDs :D
[10:33] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:33] <cvt> well, when someone says that some unknown artist is better than all other known songwriters and musical geniuses i just can't lend credence to that.
[10:34] <cvt> koo
[10:34] <Wolf359> Hello.
[10:34] <cvt> hi
[10:34] <Wolf359> Anyone awake?
[10:34] <popey> Yo!
[10:34] <popey> zzzzzz
[10:34] <LethAL-Rocks> No
[10:34] <cevizoglu> cvt: yeah, I have a really kewl mouse
[10:34] <Wolf359> Anyone in the US?
[10:34] <cvt> me
[10:35] <popey> not me
[10:35] <HrdwrBoB> Wolf359: out of 372 people
[10:35] <cvt> i wish i was in canada
[10:35] <HrdwrBoB> ...yes
[10:35] <gorilla> Wolf359, wake yes, in the US..no.
[10:35] <Wolf359> Anyone high, or sobering from a high by any chance?
[10:35] <cvt> me
[10:35] <popey> oh jeez
[10:35] <cvt> how did you know?
[10:35] <cevizoglu> wolf359: never been high
[10:35] <Wolf359> haha
[10:35] <cvt> i just had my wisdom teeth taken out!
[10:35] <brc_> so did I
[10:35] <cvt> of course i'm high on pain medicine
[10:35] <oolon> im still coming down
[10:35] <brc_> what'd they give you?
[10:35] <oolon> <--in US
[10:35] <cvt> i'm barely hanging on to talk to you
[10:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I apt-get the preview release of Breezy?
[10:35] <Wolf359> cevizoglu: me neither. Until tonight!
[10:35] <cvt> meperdine
[10:36] <brc_> Carpe_Libertatem, you can't
[10:36] <cvt> and i got some hydrocodons under the table
[10:36] <hermies> hi, I need a better version of openoffice2 than .79, is it possible to get the beta release in a deb?
[10:36] <popey> Carpe_Libertatem: you really don't want to do that
[10:36] <GNU-GPL> for jabbering.. go : #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <brc_> cvt, it get's worse
[10:36] <cvt> i've been taking 2 every two hours for the last 24 hours.
[10:36] <cevizoglu> !update2breezy
[10:36] <ubotu> cevizoglu: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:36] <cevizoglu> oops
[10:36] <Carpe_Libertatem> popey: I'm not a child. I am wiping my computer within a week. :-P
[10:36] <cevizoglu> !upgrade2breezy
[10:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces
[10:36] <Wolf359> hmm. ok-- Is there any other good server/channel to talk on besides the off topic channel?
[10:36] <ugo> hey has anyone been successful installing openafs on ubuntu hoary
[10:37] <popey> Carpe_Libertatem: thanks for that
[10:37] <Wolf359> Hey, a high geek. Isn't that something?
[10:37] <cevizoglu> gotta go, apparently I've been hit by a windmill
[10:37] <Wolf359> :-P
[10:37] <ugo> i cant seem to get it working right on my laptop
[10:38] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get installing the preview release of breezy is fine
[10:38] <cvt> popey, that's a mighty fine looking beer you got there
[10:38] <cvt> foster's?
[10:38] <hermies> how do you get a newer version of openoffice2 under ubuntu that isn't the stock snapshot 79
[10:38] <LethAL-Rocks> Well, that fixed it, but my god does mIRC look ugly in wine :P
[10:38] <popey> bleh
[10:38] <WhiteRabbit> mirc is useless
[10:38] <cevizoglu> ugh, not mirc in wine!
[10:38] <LethAL-Rocks> Yup
[10:38] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:38] <HrdwrBoB> LethAL-Rocks: or you could use a real IRC client
[10:38] <LethAL-Rocks> I am
[10:39] <cevizoglu> yeah, like colloquy or irssi
[10:39] <Garyu> is there an easy way to find out how my current HDD is partitioned?
[10:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Well, I've only tried Xchat, might have a look at some others
[10:39] <Juhaz> you need opioids for 24 hours for frigging tooth removal?
[10:39] <ugo> right anyone know bout afs on hoary...
[10:39] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:39] <ugo> ?
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Garyu:  sudo fdisk -l
[10:39] <LethAL-Rocks> or that
[10:39] <cevizoglu> !afs
[10:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cevizoglu
[10:39] <Garyu> thanks
[10:39] <cevizoglu> me neither
[10:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Gparted is nicer
[10:40] <ugo> !afs
[10:40] <GNU-GPL> ugo, no idea
[10:40] <ugo> !openafs
[10:40] <ubotu> ugo: No idea
[10:40] <cvt> is it "once burnt, twice shy" or "once burned, twice shy?"
[10:40] <GNU-GPL> :P
[10:40] <cvt> spelling question
[10:40] <ugo> hmm....bots seem to know nothing about it
[10:40] <thoreauputic> cvt: burnt
[10:40] <cvt> kthx
[10:41] <_tiago> this is gona sound newb but in sunaptic what does "upgradable (upsssstream)" refer to?
[10:41] <ugo> anyone else....i could really do with some help?
[10:41] <GNU-GPL> emile: zit jij niet ook op em ctotaal forum?
[10:41] <emile> GNU-GPL: nee dat ben ik niet
[10:41] <GNU-GPL> ok..
[10:42] <GNU-GPL> :)
[10:42] <Garyu> emile, GNU-GPL, #ubuntu-nl perhaps?
[10:42] <_tiago> what does upgradable upstream mean?
[10:42] <cevizoglu> ugo: what about afs on hoary?
[10:42] <Garyu> ;)
[10:42] <emile> Garyu: ;-)
[10:42] <GNU-GPL> Garyu, one question in dutch, geez ;)
[10:42] <RealNitro> hi all
[10:43] <GNU-GPL> hi
[10:43] <RealNitro> I have a little problem here :$
[10:43] <_tiago> maybe i should ask my question in dutch and some one will andser it
[10:43] <GNU-GPL> _tiago, you may.. but in #ubuntu-nl
[10:43] <_tiago> lol
[10:44] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[10:44] <RealNitro> I've been trying to install mysql-connector-java for hours now, but I cant get it to work
[10:44] <nalioth> _tiago: means that if you have patience, the upgrade will come down
[10:44] <_tiago> arg... unfortunatly i have no  patience
[10:44] <_tiago> im running kubuntu but i have gnome as well and my gnome is broken
[10:44] <_tiago> and im hoping it will fix if i install breezy
[10:44] <pef> hi
[10:45] <cevizoglu> tiago: when?  install it now?
[10:45] <cevizoglu> tiago: I seriously doubt upgrading to a beta will fix your problem
[10:45] <_tiago> i installed kubuntu hoary a month or 2 ago... and then i downloaded the missing ubunutu packages with gnome... and it worked
[10:46] <GNU-GPL> _tiago, reinstall gnome?
[10:46] <_tiago> but then some thing happened and gnome broke
[10:46] <_tiago> can i install the new build of gnome insted?
[10:46] <cevizoglu> what GNU-GPL said
[10:46] <nalioth> _tiago: breezy is broken to some extent for all of us who've upgraded to it
[10:46] <RealNitro> can sb tell me how to have mysql-connector-java visible in Synaptic plz? :(
[10:46] <nalioth> _tiago: it isnt officially to be released til the middle of next month
[10:46] <cevizoglu> tiago: why not reinstall
[10:47] <_tiago> ok, could some one help me do that then please?
[10:47] <LethAL-Rocks> Where do I save a png for use a splashscreen?
[10:47] <_tiago> isent the new gnome officialy out? or is it preview/beta?
[10:48] <jsgotangco> _tiago, its out
[10:48] <cevizoglu> tiago: I'm not an expert on this: apt-get remove your gnome packages you installed, then apt-get install them again
[10:48] <cvt> hey, ubuntu won't have any compatibility issues with this camcorder, will it?  http://tinyurl.com/anmzh
[10:48] <GNU-GPL> or use synaptic for it
[10:48] <cevizoglu> tiago: be careful about uninstalling too much though
[10:48] <GNU-GPL> (if you more comforting with that tool)
[10:49] <LethAL-Rocks> Yeah, try not to remove ubuntu-desktop ;)
[10:49] <GNU-GPL> you = you're
[10:49] <_tiago> im not sure what i must uninstall in the first place
[10:49] <_tiago> i dont know whats broken
[10:49] <_tiago> kde works fine
[10:49] <_tiago> but when i try and log into gnome it has the gnome splash loader and the taskbar flashes on and off making some gay noise for ever untill i swich off my pc
[10:49] <nalioth> _tiago: unless you are gonna wipe and reinstall hoary, you are best just updating your box 3 times a day
[10:50] <thoreauputic> !gay
[10:50] <ubotu> from memory, gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess
[10:51] <GNU-GPL> _tiago, in synaptic on can see what packages are installed (search for them) graphical wise, and you can order it to reinstall
[10:51] <Travis|H> hmm anyone know if the 7667 nvidia drivers are working with Breezy Preview 1? .. i'm getting a lock when I try installing =/
[10:51] <cevizoglu> !tmi
[10:51] <ubotu> cevizoglu: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:51] <cevizoglu> ubotu: tmi is too much info
[10:51] <ubotu> okay, cevizoglu
[10:51] <LethAL-Rocks> So doesn't anyone know about setting splash screens?
[10:52] <GNU-GPL> like we care
[10:52] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[10:52] <LethAL-Rocks> :(
[10:52] <oolon> LethAL-Rocks, for what apps?
[10:52] <LethAL-Rocks> GDM
[10:52] <GNU-GPL> ooh...
[10:52] <LethAL-Rocks> The on login one
[10:53] <GNU-GPL> well, you need to create a theme then
[10:53] <GNU-GPL> and install it via the gdm configure tool
[10:53] <oolon> did you look at gnome-look.org they got plenty to choose from and tell you how to change em
[10:53] <LethAL-Rocks> Oooh cool
[10:54] <oolon> you can make em too :] 
[10:54] <LethAL-Rocks> I gathered
[10:54] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, good luck ;)
[10:56] <LethAL-Rocks> Um... I can't see anything about how to use them :S
[10:56] <cevizoglu> !afs
[10:56] <ubotu> well, afs is a distributed filesystem product, http://www.openafs.org, supported in ubuntu
[10:56] <GNU-GPL> oh ooh, they want support!
[10:57] <Travis|H> anyone running the new breezy badger preview, and successfully installed nvidia drivers?
[10:57] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, you need to look inside the files (source)
[10:58] <GNU-GPL> to see how things are done
[10:58] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh... the one I got was just a png
[10:58] <GNU-GPL> hmm.. i guess that works.. but most themes are with extra xml like files
[11:01] <cvt> does anyone want to give another try to helping me get mplayer?
[11:01] <cvt> i have literally been trying for months
[11:01] <GNU-GPL> what have yo done so far?
[11:02] <_mindspin> hi, I 'm still trying to get a samba share mounted at bootup, it fails always with an "network is unreachable" error, so I need a hint how to get the share mounted.
[11:02] <Madpilot> cvt: mplayer is in Ubuntu's repos - just get it with Synaptic...
[11:02] <cevizoglu> cvt: someone on here earlier said mplayer worked when they uninstalled totem
[11:02] <cvt> i have used synaptic and tried to manually dl almost all the files on mplayer's site
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[02:14] (LethAL-Rocks/#ubuntu) This (85hz) hurts my eyes alot
[02:14] (odd_/#ubuntu) (gamester)
[02:14] <fanskapet> Hi.. anyone got a nice little SVG icon for Thunderbird?
[02:14] (GNU-GPL/#ubuntu) LethAL-Rocks, it's easy...
[02:14] (Romik/#ubuntu) LethAL-Rocks: even on LCD?
[02:15] (noob/#ubuntu) I believe 85 hz is fine
[02:15] (HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) Romik: on an lcd it doesn' tmatter
[02:15] (Romik/#ubuntu) HrdwrBoB: even on LCD?
[02:15] (DaMi3n/#ubuntu) LethAL-Rocks, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] (LethAL-Rocks/#ubuntu) I did
[02:15] (LethAL-Rocks/#ubuntu) I don't have an LCD
[02:15] (noob/#ubuntu) a crt at 60 hurts me badly, at 75 its not perfect, but great at 85
[02:15] (HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) noob: 100hz is better
[02:15] (reiki/#ubuntu) if 85Hz is a harmonic of what his electrical system is running his lights at... he'll see strobing. It's annoying as hell. Happens at work on 60Hz or harmonics thereof
[02:15] (Romik/#ubuntu) HrdwrBoB: I have everywhere LCD...becouse of this i think so.
[02:15] (noob/#ubuntu) err no, thats for crt only
[02:15] <minra_home> mmm huge freakin channel
[02:16] <noob> HrdwrBoB, maybe, anyway I don't think my monitor supports 1280x1024@100
[02:16] <GNU-GPL> minra_home, ?
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> noob: it's unlikely
[02:16] <aimaz> stupid internets
[02:16] <minra_home> 408
[02:16] <noob> there are already good monitors, so @85 is fine for me :)
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> 1024*768@74Hz here
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> err
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> 74Hz
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> err
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> 75Hz
[02:17] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:17] <noob> lol
[02:17] <GNU-GPL> damn key
[02:17] <sorush20> DaMi3n: can I just use anonymous proxy too
[02:17] <DaMi3n> sorush20, mayb i have never tried it
[02:17] <LethAL-Rocks> Oooh... I had an idea, boot into Winblows XP and read the values from my OSD
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> yeah I use LCDs by preference
[02:18] <sorush20> DaMi3n: is this the best way to prevent the spread of your IP address on the web
[02:18] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: that 1Hz makes all the difference ;)
[02:18] <noob> HrdwrBoB, why?
[02:18] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, :)
[02:18] <DaMi3n> sorush20, i dont know
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> noob: less power, smaller better vidual quality
[02:18] <noob> HrdwrBoB, I knew about the 2 first, but not the last
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> noob: a pixel on an LCD is square, a pixel on a CRT isn't
[02:19] <uglysmurf> noob, supposed to be *much* better for your eyes
[02:19] <macintos1r> yeah
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> uglysmurf: it is
[02:19] <sorush20> what is the best way to fake and prevent the spread of your IP address on the web and on P2P anyone here smart enough with the answer.?
[02:19] <sorush20> Has anyone managed to create a threaded IRC client
[02:19] <GNU-GPL> uglysmurf, depends on you eyes and the room the thing is in
[02:19] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[02:19] <uglysmurf> i actually bought my lcd primarily for that reason...trying not to go blind
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> sorush20: don't use them.
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> that's how
[02:20] <DaMi3n> GNU-GPL, is there some application that uses one proxy for the first d/l and another proxy for the second..
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> sorush20: .. define threaded
[02:20] <GNU-GPL> DaMi3n, dunno either ;)
[02:20] <uglysmurf> GNU-GPL, what do you mean by the room that it's in?
[02:21] <GNU-GPL> uglysmurf, well i mean, the lightning the dust in it and such
[02:21] <GNU-GPL> can make a huge difference
[02:21] <noob> I'm already blind. well not totally :p but I've glasses mostly because of monitors I guess
[02:21] <odd_> i hate that lightening!!
[02:21] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: lightning in a room *does* indeed make a big difference ;-)
[02:21] <sorush20> HrdwrBoB: our conversation about threaded IRC is a thread of conversation between me and you only .. it does get lost when someone else types a questions etc... but if our conversation could appear after on and other just because we type echothers alies.. then that would make the IRC chat a lot more productive
[02:22] <odd_> POOF..!BLAM!
[02:22] <GNU-GPL> :P
[02:22] <minra_home> if people would spew less offtopic drivel, it would help
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> sorush20: no
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> it has not been done to my knowledge
[02:22] <noob> I should use my laptop more often, and never in a dark room
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> sorush20: because it qould be nigh on impossible to do right
[02:22] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, lol
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> noob: I'm using my laptop right now!
[02:23] <robotgeek> same here
[02:23] <twibbler> CookedGryphon:  So want to see .... ? ....
[02:23] <thoreauputic> minra_home: lighten up
[02:23] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, hahahah wiseass
[02:23] <GNU-GPL> :P
[02:23] <CookedGryphon> sure
[02:23] <CookedGryphon> tho i already did it with a compass and a felt tip :D
[02:23] <twibbler> how to send it to you ?.
[02:23] <minra_home> as long as ppl aren't trying to solve problems in channel, it's not a problem
[02:23] <noob> I still need my pc for gaming.. and its faster for the rest too
[02:24] <GNU-GPL> linux is lightning fast
[02:24] <CookedGryphon> what'du mean?
[02:24] <sorush20> HrdwrBoB: it could not.. the client would detect  a new question by anyone.. then it would be answered by someone by typing the user's name who asked the question and it would come stright after the question posted by the initial user.. new mini conversation frames would automatically open and increase in number (there would be a limit) and aid more one to one conversation...
[02:24] <twibbler> ok .png file being sent ..... of image ....
[02:24] <GNU-GPL> noob, gaming ok.. but that other assumption is false
[02:25] <GNU-GPL> :P
[02:25] <noob> ?
[02:25] <GNU-GPL> I still need my pc for gaming.. and its faster for the rest too  <-- that
[02:25] <noob> a p4 ht 3.2 ghz with 1gig isnt faster than a centrino 1.7 with 512  (though its already fast) ?
[02:26] <CookedGryphon> twibbler, that rocks! tho maybe a black rounded rectangle border around the edge would b enice..
[02:26] <GNU-GPL> noob, sorry i was think you were saying it as a for using windows vs linux
[02:26] <noob> lol
[02:26] <twibbler> cookedGryphon: 2 mins and it will be so ...
[02:27] <noob> I don't use windows for ages
 <thoreauputic> dave221: sure,  sudo modprobe <modulename>
 the problem is during install
 i cant even get the OS up
 Ubuntu cant see my network or SATA HD
[02:27] <noob> you think gaming=windows like a lot of people. I really don't
[02:27] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:27] <thoreauputic> dave221: are you lagged or what?
[02:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Point2play :P
[02:27] <sorush20> I'm unable to killall xine..
[02:27] <noob> I play native games
[02:28] <Hoxzer> hi
 was eating lunch
[02:28] <odd_> kill -9 (process number)
[02:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Speaking of which, p2p can't find cedega, which I have installed, any ideas?
[02:28] <sorush20> how do I restart kde panel
[02:28] <Belutz> noob: is it true that centrino is faster than p4 3.2ghz?
[02:28] <GNU-GPL> noob, i don't say that... but the gamesworld is currently focussed on consoles and windows, NOT linux
[02:28] <robotgeek> does anyone know how to make irssi beep on hilight?
[02:28] <Hoxzer> does ubuntu contain any kind of text editor that I can run in terminal?
[02:28] <LethAL-Rocks> nano
[02:28] <Belutz> Hoxzer: try pico or nano
[02:28] <Hoxzer> or...
[02:28] <robotgeek> Hoxzer: several, nano, vi
[02:28] <noob> Belutz, wasnt it the other way around?
[02:28] <LethAL-Rocks> or sudo -e
[02:28] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: /help levels
[02:28] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, pico
[02:28] <Hoxzer> :E
[02:29] <thoreauputic> or /levels help, I forget
[02:29] <Hoxzer> damn TV-out is working but..
[02:29] <Hoxzer> :D gnome can't star
[02:29] <noob> Belutz, I said the p4 is faster than the centrino, but that the centrino is already quite fast
[02:29] <Belutz> noob: i thought centrino is faster, i read it in intel website, but i forgot the link
[02:29] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: can i msg you for help. don't want to flood the channel with offtopic.
[02:29] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: OK
[02:29] <noob> Belutz, which centrino vs which p4 ?
[02:30] <Belutz> noob: maybe the p4 is faster because it uses 1gb ram?
[02:30] <odd_> topic?
[02:30] <azazel_ubuntu> anyone know of a little applet to set the CPU frequency scaling?
[02:30] <azazel_ubuntu> sometimes I want the CPU to run full blast
[02:30] <GNU-GPL> noob, Belutz go to #hardware or something
[02:30] <GNU-GPL> :P
[02:30] <Belutz> noob: sorry, i forgot which centrino and which p4
[02:30] <LethAL-Rocks> I've got a Buffalo WLI-U2-KG54-AI WLAN adapter (based on RT 2500 or something). Any ideas how I can get it to work?
[02:30] <azazel_ubuntu> (I seem to be getting a poor frame rate when viewing divx files for example)
[02:30] <noob> Belutz, omg
[02:30] <Belutz> GNU-GPL: ok :) sorry :D
[02:31] <noob> Belutz, the centrino is faster than a p4 as the same frequence. but here its 1.7 vs 3.2
[02:31] <GNU-GPL> ok end of discussion!
[02:31] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:31] <LethAL-Rocks> So do I get help here?
[02:31] <GNU-GPL> geez.. give it a rest...
[02:31] <Belutz> noob: oh ok... i'm clearer now :)
[02:32] <noob> LethAL-Rocks, no
[02:32] <deFrysk> isn the mclaren-mercedes faster ?
[02:32] <noob> LethAL-Rocks, ubuntu users are noobs :)
[02:32] <dave221> P4 sucks
[02:32] <xerxas> hi
[02:32] <dave221> P4M is the only good chip intel have
[02:32] <setite> LethAL-Rocks - he's messing with you... ask what ye will and pray for an answer
[02:32] <noob> even with less user friendly distrib, its sometimes hard to find skilled people
[02:32] <LethAL-Rocks> I did ask
[02:32] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, yes...
[02:33] <CookedGryphon> twibbler, thanks, tho i'm off 4 my lunch now, i will print em off this afternoon and stick them on with pride!
[02:33] <twibbler> CookedGryphon: new version on way ...
[02:33] <xerxas> xerxas@kisa:~$ apt-cache show ipython
[02:33] <xerxas> Depends: python2.3-ipython, ipython-common
[02:33] <CookedGryphon> oh rite
[02:33] <xerxas> breezy isn't supposed to be python2.4 based?
[02:34] <LethAL-Rocks> I've got a Buffalo WLI-U2-KG54-AI WLAN adapter (based on RT 2500 or something). Any ideas how I can get it to work?
[02:34] <LethAL-Rocks> THat was my question ^^
[02:34] <robotgeek> LethAL-Rocks: did u read the wiki. there's an article about rt2500 cards :)
[02:35] <LethAL-Rocks> !tell me about rt2500
[02:35] <LethAL-Rocks> Which that doesn't know :P
[02:35] <xerxas> is there a MOTU here ?
[02:35] <GNU-GPL> xerxas, python -V
[02:35] <GNU-GPL>  gives me Python 2.4.1
[02:35] <_lui_> hello hello
[02:35] <xerxas> or should I contact direclty the package maintener
[02:35] <LethAL-Rocks> Message of the? Universe?
[02:35] <xerxas> Master of the Universe
[02:35] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh
[02:35] <xerxas> ubuntu official packagers
[02:35] <reiki> like He-Man
[02:35] <LethAL-Rocks> I'd say that'd be a no
[02:36] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, right, I do have python2.4
[02:36] <xerxas> but the package ipython is python2.3 based
[02:36] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, u know ipython ?
[02:36] <GNU-GPL> so i see...
[02:36] <GNU-GPL> no
[02:36] <reiki> dang it.... my car CD player doesn't play mp3 :)
[02:36] <_lui_> anybody can say me why the amule interface is so ugly and if I can do something to male it look better?
[02:36] <_lui_> anybody can say me why the amule interface is so ugly and if I can do something to make it look better?
[02:37] <GNU-GPL> _lui_, use torrentclient, much faster ;)
[02:37] <odd_> burn your songs to CD format
[02:37] <SuperTails92> Where can I find the config for the Ubuntu 686 kernel?
[02:37] <reiki> odd_: yeah... just can't fir as many on a CD that way
[02:38] <GNU-GPL> SuperTails92, in the repositories?
[02:38] <reiki> my home CD player plays mp3.... but not my car... bummer
[02:38] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, ipython is the python interactive interpretor
[02:38] <reiki> fir=fit
[02:38] <xerxas> with history and color support
[02:38] <odd_> uhhuh, 70 megs of mp3 fills a CD
[02:38] <GNU-GPL> !tell SuperTails92 about repos
[02:38] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, but it's supposed to be 2.4 based
[02:38] <xerxas> the package in breezy is 2.3 based
[02:39] <GNU-GPL> xerxas, ok... didn't know that.. (leaned a new thing)..
[02:39] <robotgeek> LethAL-Rocks: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo)
[02:39] <rainmaker> whats the difference between the offical backports and the unoffical one?
[02:39] <_lui_> GNU-GPL, sometimes I find things in amule that aren't in torrentclient
[02:39] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm allready there ;)
[02:39] <Mez> the official ones are better
[02:39] <GNU-GPL> _lui_, like ehm.. warez? :P
[02:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Is there any way to enable the scroll wheel on my mouse without reconfiguring xorg?
[02:40] <robotgeek> LethAL-Rocks: okay, i'm too slow eh. did it not work after u tried that?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> rainmaker: the official ones are on lower doses of crack ;)
[02:40] <rainmaker> Mez,  um ubuntu has one and then theres one hosted on ubuntuforums
[02:40] <LethAL-Rocks> I haven't done it yet
[02:40] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, ipython is very handy
[02:40] <thoreauputic> rainmaker: forget the forums ones
[02:40] <rainmaker> why?
[02:40] <_lui_> GNU-GPL, ahem!... I can't improve the amule interface?
[02:40] <xerxas> GNU-GPL, do you know what should i do ?
[02:40] <xerxas> ubuntu bugzilla ?
[02:41] <natecull> I'm trying to install the spca5xx webcam driver for a Logitec Quickcam IM
[02:41] <xerxas> or contact the package author ?
[02:41] <xerxas> or contact any MOTU ?
[02:41] <natecull> unfortunately the instructions even on the Ubuntu forums seem to contradict themselves
[02:41] <GNU-GPL> _lui_, dunno..
[02:41] <natecull> has anyone here done this?
[02:41] <GNU-GPL> xerxas, think either
[02:42] <rainmaker> why is the ubuntuforum backports so bad? :/
[02:42] <_lui_> well, then, Is there a xmule pkg for ubuntu?
[02:42] <natecull> I *think* I have succeeded in compiling the module. That is, I have got to a point where I can run 'make' and it produces a spca5xx.ko file which may or may not be usable
[02:42] <fek> hi
[02:42] <Frafra> i'm on breezy. i've installed mail-notification. when i try to login with mail-notification for a gmail account it says that login falied. i've write my username with no @gmail.com, and the correct password. why it doesn't work?
[02:42] <GNU-GPL> _lui_, there is
[02:42] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:42] <natecull> when I try to insmod the module, I get 'invalid symbol in module'. Would this suggest that I have a bad module, or that I need (#random-other-stuff) loaded first?
[02:42] <fek> i read in the boot screen, that there is an option for a server-setup. is it safe to use ubuntu as a server?
[02:42] <mahadewi> hi
[02:42] <GNU-GPL> hi
[02:42] <guyver> Frafra Is it POP3?
[02:43] <Frafra> guyver: i've set it on gmail
[02:43] <thoreauputic> natecull: leave the .ko off, and use modprobe
[02:43] <robotgeek> xerxas: if u feel it's a bug, put it up on launchpad
[02:43] <Mez> rainmaker ... ?
[02:43] <guyver> Frafra Yes, but is your Gmial acct a POP3 or other type of mail acct
[02:43] <xerxas> robotgeek, there is a python2.4-ipython
[02:43] <Frafra> ah, i shouldn't use gmail type?
[02:43] <xerxas> ...
[02:43] <hmrocha> how can i list the files installed by a package?
[02:44] <hmrocha> (without synaptic)
[02:44] <robotgeek> xerxas: then what's the problem?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: dpkg -L
[02:44] <natecull> thoreauputic: thanks, but some more random Ubuntu forum googling seemed to turn up the real answer: modprobe videodev first
[02:44] <guyver> Frafra you need to know what type of mail acct it is. POP3, HTTP, etc
[02:44] <hmrocha> thoreauputic, thanks :)
[02:44] <thoreauputic> natecull: ah
[02:44] <natecull> I hear this driver is going to be included in the Breezy kernel, which will be great
[02:44] <robotgeek> guyver: mail notification has a gmail type, it did not work for me though!
[02:44] <natecull> it will be nice to have GnomeMeeting working out of the box
[02:45] <natecull> mind you, now I need to test the sucker...
[02:45] <xerxas> robotgeek, ipython should depend on python2.4-ipython
[02:45] <Frafra> i've 5 tipe of mailbox: automatic, system, pop3, imap and gmail. i've selected the last. i must use pop3?
[02:45] <xerxas> and not python2.3-ipython
[02:45] <xerxas> robotgeek,  right ?
[02:45] <yuacht> is it safe to upgrade to breezy
[02:45] <odd_> just forestalling the disco..:)
[02:45] <guyver> Frafra I have never heard of a mail type Gmail. That sounds like a company or program name
[02:45] <GNU-GPL> natecull, it does work out of the box
[02:45] <guyver> Frafra try Pop3
[02:45] <robotgeek> xerxas: gimme a minute to check it out
[02:45] <Frafra> ok
[02:46] <kbreit> Where is there documentation to upgrade Horay to Breezy?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> grrr.. can someone type my nick please?
[02:46] <majnoon> was wondering is there a way to install off the live cd ??
[02:46] <GNU-GPL> !tell kbreit about upgrade2breezy
[02:46] <minra_home> thoreauputic
[02:46] <thoreauputic> minra_home: thank you :)
[02:46] <xerxas> !tell xerxas about upgrade2breezy
[02:47] <minra_home> thoreauputic: got a beep script set up?
[02:47] <robotgeek> xerxas: are u on hoary or on breezy?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> minra_home: all's well :)
[02:47] <twibbler> deFrysk: have label png in correct size if you wish to have a look...
[02:47] <Frafra> with pop it works... thanks :D
[02:47] <majnoon> was wondering is there a way to install off the live cd ??
[02:47] <guyver> Breezy is the most impressive distribution of Linux I have seen yet. Simply incredible
[02:47] <minra_home> thoreauputic: try linking festival (speech synth) to privmsgs it's pretty funny
[02:47] <robotgeek> xerxas: cause it show dependencies as python-2.4
[02:47] <guyver> You're welcome Frafra
[02:47] <deFrysk> twibbler, sure
[02:47] <thoreauputic> minra_home: hah! good idea :)
[02:47] <_lui_> GNU-GPL, excuse me, is there a lmule for ubuntu?
[02:48] <xerxas> robotgeek, breezy
[02:48] <Frafra> guyver: i've gmail and i must use pop, why are there gmail option?
[02:48] <natecull> GNU-GPL: GnomeMeeting may work out of the box, but without a driver for a webcam it doesn't get very far for videoconferencing.
[02:48] <GNU-GPL> _lui_, not that i know of
[02:48] <xerxas> robotgeek, i have this:
[02:48] <robotgeek> xerxas: apt-cache show python2.4-ipython - > Depends: python2.4, ipython-common
[02:48] <xerxas> Version: 0.6.15-1ubuntu1
[02:48] <xerxas> Depends: python2.3-ipython, ipython-common
[02:48] <guyver> Frafra dunno, like I said, I have never heard of a Gmail type. Most that I have encountered use POP3, save for Hotmail and the like
[02:48] <xerxas> robotgeek, i speak about the ipython package
[02:48] <GNU-GPL> natecull, that has nothing to do with gnomemeeting
[02:48] <Frafra> ok
[02:48] <xerxas> not the ipython-2.4
[02:48] <Frafra> thanks
[02:48] <guyver> sure
[02:49] <xerxas> ipython should install python2.4-ipython , not python2.3-ipython
[02:49] <_lui_> GNU-GPL, ok thank you
[02:49] <xerxas> robotgeek: xerxas@kisa:~$ apt-cache show ipython
[02:49] <robotgeek> xerxas: maybe they will change dependency later, since ipython is a dummy package
[02:49] <deFrysk> twibbler, looks good :)
[02:50] <twibbler> deFrysk: do we need an open office label layout now. .... ?....
[02:50] <deFrysk> twibbler, well thats up to you ;)
[02:50] <robotgeek> xerxas: maybe they are trying to migrate to 2.4, making sure there aren't any broken packages. not sure, but very probable
[02:51] <natecull> GNU-GPL: Sure it does. How exactly can you consider GnomeMeeting to be 'working' if it doesn't actually work?
[02:51] <xerxas> robotgeek, should I ask the package maintener
[02:51] <xerxas> ?
[02:51] <natecull> GNU-GPL: ie, if you can't use it to accomplish the task for which it was designed
[02:51] <robotgeek> xerxas: your best bet would be #ubuntu-motu
[02:51] <robotgeek> xerxas: but i wouldn't really worry about it
[02:51] <xerxas> robotgeek, cool, didn't know that place
[02:52] <natecull> this is why I wish somewhere there were a master list of what webcams were supported in Linux
[02:52] <GNU-GPL> natecull, it works.. only not video.. (this is because you haven't installed the driver, or right driver for the cam) the driver is systemwide (all apps can use this if needed too)
[02:52] <codomaniac> Casanova: got the help ?
[02:52] <xerxas> robotgeek, python2.3-ipython is the only package I use in python2.3
[02:52] <xerxas> robotgeek, I would worry, because I installed python2.4 packages like musicbraine or wxpython that are for python2.4
[02:52] <xerxas> so my import aren't working
[02:53] <Casanova> codomaniac, 2 mins
[02:53] <natecull> GNU-GPL: I am quite aware of that. The upshot, however, is that videoconferencing in Linux does not work unless you sweat blood and sacrifice a pig. This is not what I call 'working out of the box', hence why I say it will be nice if the next Ubuntu actually supports popular webcams.
[02:53] <Casanova> can someone help me with configuring alsa in ubuntu 5.04? it runs fine in sudo but not running as ordinary user
[02:53] <GNU-GPL> wich cam do you have?
[02:54] <GNU-GPL> mine works fine
[02:54] <robotgeek> xerxas: hmm, then install ipython-2.4, ask on motu for further help in this regard
[02:54] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:54] <natecull> in fact, it would be nice even if somewhere on the Web there were a master list simply compiling which exact models of webcams are currently supported in which popular distribution
[02:54] <xerxas> robotgeek, thanks
[02:54] <thoreauputic> natecull: it would be nice if the manufacturers of devices gave the specs out... Often this is the roadblock
[02:54] <natecull> as even buying webcams at the moment is very awkward. Since none of them list their chipset/driver on the box.
[02:55] <natecull> and then you get things like 'Quickcam Express' where there are two different chipsets for the same model name.
[02:55] <robotgeek> natecull: same problem with wireless cards too
[02:55] <natecull> mmm
[02:55] <Casanova> anyone?
[02:55] <natecull> how bad is it for those? I had the impression that there were only about three wireless chipsets
[02:55] <GNU-GPL> natecull, but to be clear.. it's not the package fault (gnomemeeting) but the lack of drivers on linux for these devices (and thoreauputic gave you the most common reason for it)
[02:56] <alien8> Casanova: chmod 777 /dev/dsp?
[02:56] <robotgeek> natecull: it takes a lot of peeking and poking for the cheap ones
[02:56] <andre_r> hi
[02:56] <GNU-GPL> hi
[02:56] <Casanova> alien8, wow it worked cool thanx a lot
[02:56] <alien8> :)
[02:56] <juanitto80> hola a todos
[02:56] <Liz> ok..did anyone solve the problem with the kernel from the last update?
[02:56] <natecull> GNU-GPL: Yes, but can you understand that as an end user, that answer doesn't satisfy. I don't care who's 'fault' it is - I just want a fully working experience.
[02:56] <codomaniac> wow Casanova
[02:57] <Casanova> alien8, do i have to do this on everyboot or this works for all bootups?
[02:57] <juanitto80> hay alguien que hable castellano
[02:57] <Casanova> codomaniac, :D
[02:57] <alien8> that should be sorted now Casanova
[02:57] <GNU-GPL> natecull, from that point, you're right
[02:57] <alien8> allllll the time
[02:57] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:57] <Casanova> alien8, :-)
[02:57] <juanitto80> necesito ayuda con el winw
[02:57] <juanitto80> wine
[02:57] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt find my second harddisc os winxp prim slave
[02:57] <robotgeek> natecull: yeah, but it's kinda difficult to write drivers without a spec. people will write drivers if a spec is provided.
[02:57] <Liz> hellppp..my system wont boot up after the update today
[02:57] <juanitto80> no hay nadie
[02:57] <thoreauputic> natecull: unfortunately that's true but currently unavoidable in Free Software
[02:58] <Liz> and theres nothing that helps on the mailing list or in the fourms
[02:58] <leopold> what can I do?
[02:58] <Casanova> hehe GNU-GPL :-) wouldnt mind one :p
[02:58] <robotgeek> natecull: hopefully, we reach a stage where it would just work :)
[02:58] <GNU-GPL> lol
[02:58] <juanitto80> aqui tor mundo es guiri joe
[02:58] <alien8> now before I nuke this debian server and put ubuntu on it - using 'server' on install CD does anyone think this is a BAD idea? (ubuntu desktop is fine for me on other boxen, but normally on servers i'm debian/stable/testing.)
[02:58] <robotgeek> juanitto80: #ubuntu-es
[02:58] <moquillo> no entiendo castellano, solo espagnol.. sori..
[02:58] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt find my second harddisc os winxp prim slave
[02:58] <leopold> what can I do?
[02:58] <GNU-GPL> !ubuntues
[02:58] <ubotu> GNU-GPL: Are you smoking crack?
[02:58] <GNU-GPL> !ubuntu-es
[02:58] <ubotu> Not a clue, GNU-GPL
[02:59] <GNU-GPL> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:59] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[02:59] <odd_> leopold, have you run bios setup? does your bios see it?
[02:59] <deFrysk> !nl
[02:59] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:59] <deFrysk> :D
[02:59] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[02:59] <leopold> odd_ my bios sees it I can even boot it
[03:00] <GNU-GPL> wb Seveas !
[03:00] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:00] <leopold> odd_ any ideas?
[03:01] <odd_> are you doing hoary or breezy?
[03:01] <Seveas-SFD> hi :)
[03:01] <GNU-GPL> hi
[03:01] <leopold> hoary 5.04
[03:01] <robotgeek> Seveas-SFD: SFD?
[03:01] <Seveas-SFD> Software Freedom Day
[03:02] <GNU-GPL> ok...
[03:02] <robotgeek> Seveas-SFD: did not know that!
[03:02] <odd_> it should see it, hoary even sees my usb drives..
[03:02] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: GNU-GPL  /topic  :)
[03:02] <GNU-GPL> robodex, http://softwarefreedomday.org/
[03:03] <robotgeek> GNU-GPL: did u mean me?
[03:03] <robodex> I have a very unfortunate name when there's someone else that starts with robo
[03:03] <robodex> I gotta jet anyway :p bye
[03:03] <leopold> odd_ how can i check if it sees it
[03:03] <GNU-GPL> yes i ment you
[03:03] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:03] <robotgeek> :D
[03:03] <odd_> install does not have a drop down to select the drive?
[03:04] <leopold> the second hd wasnt on board when i installed the os
[03:04] <odd_> ohhh..lemme think a sec
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> wb LethAL-Rocks
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:05] <LethAL-Rocks> ty
[03:05] <LethAL-Rocks> No WLAN still :S
[03:05] <natecull> woohoo!
[03:05] <setite> SFD
[03:05] <setite> ??
[03:05] <natecull> I have video in GnomeMeeting
[03:05] <setite> whoops
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> setite: http://softwarefreedomday.org/
[03:05] <setite> dont answer!!!!
[03:05] <setite> shit
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> hehehe...
[03:05] <setite> haha... i read up...
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:05] <setite> i gotta start reading before asking... bad habit
[03:05] <natecull> now if only I can remember the steps I went through to make it all happen...
[03:05] <LethAL-Rocks> I deactivated AutoInstall and plugged it back in after doing the things on the wiki
[03:05] <GNU-GPL> shit is another word for poo
[03:06] <setite> would i be bad to affix that to my name?
[03:06] <LethAL-Rocks> And it's still not in Networking
[03:06] <odd_> leopold, I had to add a device when i added a CD-RW drive and then it started seeing it..
[03:06] <setite> poo is another work for caca
[03:06] <GNU-GPL> hehehe
[03:06] <setite> or is poo for ca and poopoo for caca
[03:06] <GNU-GPL> caca is another word for.. nevermind that one
[03:06] <luite> does an ubuntu kernel need special options when using make-kpkg? I've used make-kpkg -initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image, but it does not boot? I used the ubuntu 2.6.12 .config file and used oldconfig to configure it
[03:06] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:06] <setite> never heard a simple ca
[03:06] <shinu> can mplayer play mp4 files?
[03:06] <odd_> leopold, in my case it was a dupe of HDC
[03:07] <setite-FSD> haha whoops
[03:07] <setite-SFD> i cant see my keyboard in teh dark
[03:07] <abbot45> ok.  I've got an Archos Gmini 400 and I'm having problems.  It automounts fine as an external drive, but when i copy music to it i usualy get a "you do not have write permissions" error, but then when i check the permissions in Properties I am the owner and all permissions are there.
[03:07] <setite-SFD> i need a white glow int hte dark kb
[03:07] <GNU-GPL> learn to type blind
[03:07] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:08] <eolo> hi guys (no woman as usual), i have a dzhandle error everytime i run apt-get i think t come from zope uninstall but...someone can help me??
[03:08] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo apt-get?
[03:08] <odd_> abbot45 what group is it in?
[03:08] <abbot45> my group.  "adam"
[03:09] <Hoxzer> what software can extract .rar files?
[03:09] <GNU-GPL> doing some caca
[03:09] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:09] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, unrar
[03:09] <Hoxzer> Gnu: ok
[03:09] <deFrysk> unrar0nonfree to be precise
[03:10] <odd_> abbot45, are you a member of the "disk" group?
[03:10] <deFrysk> unrar-nonfree
[03:10] <GNU-GPL> deFrysk, right
[03:10] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:10] <deFrysk> ;p
[03:10] <abbot45> odd_, not sure.  one sec.
[03:11] <{cYanide}> hi
[03:11] <abbot45> odd_, there isnt a "disk" group on my groups list.  should i create one?
[03:11] <GNU-GPL> hi
[03:11] <azazel_ubuntu> this is weird. now my firewire drive *does* show up in computer:/// and can be unmounted
[03:11] <{cYanide}> does anyone here know of a tool to join avi files that would work in ubuntu
[03:11] <robotgeek> azazel_ubuntu: problem solved :)
[03:11] <azazel_ubuntu> but it only happened after some weird error where I couldn't read the disk anymore and had to reattach it
[03:11] <leopold> odd_ how did u add that device
[03:11] <leopold> can u tell me step by step?
[03:11] <andre_r> how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[03:12] <GNU-GPL> {cYanide}, you mean, playing avi files?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: cat
[03:12] <abbot45> {cYanide}, would Kino Video Editor work
[03:12] <{cYanide}> no, joining avi files, like if i had two big files i wanted into one
[03:12] <Hoxzer> strange :/
[03:12] <GNU-GPL> ok
[03:12] <odd_> i did a drag and drop in the device directory, and renamed it to SCD0
[03:12] <{cYanide}> divx etc that kinda thing
[03:12] <Liz> eolo, ..im a woman
[03:12] <andre_r> is it possible?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}:  cat file1 file2 file3
[03:12] <odd_> abbot45, do this as root
[03:12] <Hoxzer> should Unrar extract .rar packages that are in many parts?
[03:12] <robotgeek> Liz: it's safe here!
[03:13] <deFrysk> woman ? where ?
[03:13] <Liz> here..here !
[03:13] <Naked31> Im testing my apache: http://195.186.148.91 can you see the page?
[03:13] <deFrysk> whohoo
[03:13] <robotgeek> Hoxzer: yeah
[03:13] <CookedGryphon> I have finally found a way to make my modem work reliably!!!
[03:13] <deFrysk> is it safe here ? ;p
[03:13] <Liz> now help me fix my problem with my pc not booting :P
[03:13] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, it can unrar spanned archives
[03:14] <cafuego> (het kan vriezen, het kan dooien)
[03:14] <leopold> abbot45 command not found
[03:14] <Hoxzer> Gnu-GPL: strange I got error when I tried unrar -x aster-island1.part01.rar
[03:14] <CookedGryphon> all i have to do is reboot, remove ther kerel module slamr, make uninstall, make clean, make, make install, modprobe slamr, then run the daemon in a minimised terminal
[03:14] <CookedGryphon> simple no?
[03:14] <robotgeek> Liz: now, do u know why it's not booting?
[03:14] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, and that error is?
[03:14] <deFrysk> sorry cafuego to much coffee and too much salt , blame in on the food industry
[03:14] <[koji] > Naked31: can't
[03:15] <Hoxzer> Extracting  asteroids-the.island.cd1.avi                              Failed
[03:15] <Hoxzer> 1 Failed
[03:15] <jacaru> anybody tried graveman?
[03:15] <{cYanide}> lol
[03:15] <{cYanide}> naughty naughty
[03:15] <Naked31> And now http://195.186.148.91
[03:15] <deFrysk> jacaru, jes works fine
[03:15] <robotgeek> Hoxzer: tried the non free version?
[03:15] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, seems an error in rar
[03:15] <GNU-GPL> crc error or something
[03:15] <[koji] > Naked31: yep
[03:15] <{cYanide}> anyhow, anyone use cedega here
[03:15] <Liz> robotgeek, ..from what i can see in the forums, its the kernel update from yesterday/lastnight/this morning that is the problem
[03:15] <LethAL-Rocks> I would
[03:15] <LethAL-Rocks> If point2play found it
[03:16] <{cYanide}> ah
[03:16] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, but, it looks like an illegal movie.. :(
[03:16] <{cYanide}> gnu, it is
[03:16] <LethAL-Rocks> Any ideas on that? I definately have it installed
[03:16] <Hoxzer> GNU-GPL: :( no ....
[03:16] <Naked31> ok, super.
[03:16] <jacaru> deFrysk: better than gnomebaker and gtoaster? right now i use k3b but would like to stay on gtk apps
[03:16] <{cYanide}> asteroids is a release group
[03:16] <Naked31> I had firewall problems.
[03:16] <deFrysk> jacaru, on breezy ?
[03:16] <{cYanide}> anyway, im trying to connect in ultima online
[03:16] <robotgeek> Liz: where does it hang? what's the last message u can see?
[03:16] <jacaru> deFrysk: nods
[03:16] <Hoxzer> GNU-GPL: My friend made a movie when they were on island :)
[03:16] <{cYanide}> but it dont seem to connectt, it just stays at "connecting"
[03:16] <{cYanide}> hoxzer
[03:16] <{cYanide}> bullshit
[03:16] <Hoxzer> its not really that the island
[03:16] <Hoxzer> :D
[03:16] <{cYanide}> i can find the release
[03:16] <natecull> {cYanide}: I've used WineX, but I haven't used it since it became Cedega
[03:17] <Hoxzer> no bullshit
[03:17] <{cYanide}> one sec;)
[03:17] <Liz> robotgeek, its stop onf ..ok..booting the kernel.....
[03:17] <Naked31> [koji] , thanx for your help
[03:17] <Gobbla> umm when i try to play a game the system reboots, what should i do=
[03:17] <Liz> robotgeek, make that its stuck on
[03:17] <robotgeek> Liz: hmm
[03:17] <deFrysk> jacaru, on breezy you wil have a new burn app to your disposal for burning audio cd's , serpentine then you can really ditch k3b
[03:17] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, this is a movie (not from your friend.)
[03:17] <{cYanide}> The.Island.TC.XviD-ASTEROiDS
[03:17] <GNU-GPL> voila!
[03:17] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:17] <Liz> robotgeek, it was fine this afternoon when i was using it..i did the update couple of hours ago..but since then turned off the machine...now it wont reboot..and thats the last message i get
[03:18] <GNU-GPL> don't fool me
[03:18] <enyc> hrrm
[03:18] <enyc> how do I fix the err...
[03:18] <abbot45> deFrysk, thank god.
[03:18] <enyc> how do I fix the gcc problem with breezy / kernel ?
[03:18] <enyc> i.e. gcc-config etc. wants to find gcc-3.4 for some reason
[03:18] <jacaru> deFrysk: what about data cds, like multisession and mixed mode? can nautilus handle that?
[03:18] <Liz> and i want to fix it before i shut down this one as well..its also running hoary..i just havent shutdown in 4 days
[03:18] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:19] <{cYanide}> pwnt
[03:19] <{cYanide}> lol
[03:19] <afaik> how do I shut dma on?
[03:19] <deFrysk> jacaru, not sure actually
[03:19] <{cYanide}> afaik id like to know that actually
[03:19] <robotgeek> Liz: when it's booting up, press tab or whatever to get extra options. see there's an option for switching kernels?
[03:19] <afaik> dma for my cd drive
[03:19] <{cYanide}> nero was moaning about it
[03:19] <enyc> afai: err .. depends what you mean ''shut dma''
[03:19] <deFrysk> afaik, is it off
[03:19] <GNU-GPL> afaik: use hdparm
[03:19] <afaik> to turn it on?
[03:19] <robotgeek> Liz: i don't use grub, so i don't know what kind of options you have
[03:19] <deFrysk> afaik, how do you know its off ?
[03:19] <Liz> robotgeek, did that...theres only recovery mode..or testing the memory...tried the recovery mode..same thing
[03:19] <GNU-GPL> afaik: it can be done using that tool
[03:19] <afaik> will turning it on make my cd burner burn at the speed it is supposed to?
[03:20] <GNU-GPL> afaik: prob.
[03:20] <afaik> DeFi, because my 24x cd writer burns at 4x ONLY under ubuntu?
[03:20] <yuacht> is X fixed?
[03:20] <robotgeek> Liz: okay, do u have the livecd lying around somewhere?
[03:20] <Hoxzer> well :) seems like its working with nonfree version
[03:20] <Liz> robotgeek, yes i do..ill boot into that
[03:20] <{cYanide}> afaik run  hdparm in terminal
[03:20] <CookedGryphon> would it be soemthign like tha tthat's making my dvd drive read at like 2x?
[03:20] <afaik> I know
[03:20] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, rar-nonfree actualy works ,
[03:21] <afaik> what I don't know are the switches, guess I gotta read yet another man page
[03:21] <GNU-GPL> deFrysk, sure it works, only with pre-3.0 rar archives
[03:21] <afaik> YAMP
[03:21] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:21] <deFrysk> afaik, man hdparm
[03:21] <yuacht> Seveas-SFD, X broken?
[03:21] <afaik> deFrysk, thank you captain obvious!
[03:21] <afaik> :P
[03:21] <GNU-GPL> man and google are your best friends
[03:21] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:21] <deFrysk> afaik, obvious questions get obvious answers ;p
[03:21] <GNU-GPL> (ok.. #ubuntu too :P)
[03:22] <odd_> LIZ, are you wantting to boot windows as well?
[03:22] <LethAL-Rocks> Ah.... scary thought
[03:22] <Liz> odd_, no, it only runs ubuntu
[03:22] <LethAL-Rocks> phew
[03:22] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[03:22] <deFrysk> Liz, odd = great!
[03:23] <odd_> LOL lethal
[03:23] <GNU-GPL> Liz, for a second i was in shock
[03:23] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:23] <Liz> heh..
[03:23] <afaik> huh? the man page lists -d as the switch to enable/disable dma
[03:23] <Liz> this machine only runs ubuntu too..never going back to windows
[03:23] <deFrysk> oh odd is a name too hehe
[03:23] <afaik> I keep running it, it does nothing (still off)
[03:23] <odd_> liz good idea..:)
[03:23] <Liz> if i can fix the other machine, ill knwo what to do if this one has the same problem as the other one when i reboot it
[03:23] <deFrysk> afaik, then the kernel does not have the required driver
[03:24] <afaik> deFrysk, nah, it works, I did it before
[03:24] <GNU-GPL> *bump*
[03:24] <afaik> just dont remember how
[03:24] <deFrysk> afaik, ok
[03:24] <deFrysk> 24x thats an antique
[03:24] <GNU-GPL> right
[03:24] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:24] <robotgeek> Liz: i think we can just get it to boot using the old kernel, we should be fine. brb
[03:24] <afaik> well, it's 52 xI thinkg
[03:24] <GNU-GPL> i have a 12 speed, does that mean it prehistoric?
[03:24] <odd_> liz, i am not sure what your problem is..is it hanging as it trys to boot the kernal?
[03:24] <deFrysk> old things dont run as fast anymore
[03:25] <deFrysk> getting rusty
[03:25] <Liz> odd_, thats what it looks like to me..its just sitting there on ok..booting the kernel
[03:25] <afaik> gar, just give me the command to enable fscking dma? I thought hdparm -d /dev/hdc wouldwork
[03:25] <GNU-GPL> afaik: language!
[03:25] <azazel_ubuntu> hmmmmm.... if I do a lot of read/write on that firewire drive, I get write errors and it drops out... crap crap crap
[03:25] <Liz> odd_, in the forums, there is mention of the problem, but no one seems to have a viable answer there..yet
[03:25] <CookedGryphon> okay, i have enabled dma, now maybe dvds will be watchable? does that switch stay on no? or do i have to put it in a boot script to switch dma?
[03:25] <azazel_ubuntu> it's got all my data backed up onto it
[03:25] <deFrysk> Liz, try the previous kernel
[03:25] <odd_> liz, eeek, is reinstall an option?
[03:26] <Liz> deFrysk, it doesnt show any previous kernels to do that tho
[03:26] <CookedGryphon> afaik, i did it with /dev/cdrom and also, sudo helps
[03:26] <Liz> odd_, reinstall is an option, if i dont have a choice..but id like to try and at least save the data thats already on there
[03:26] <deFrysk> Liz, edit menu.list and set default to 1 till the next kerel comes out
[03:26] <deFrysk> kernel*
[03:26] <afaik> CookedGryphon, same command?
[03:27] <afaik> -d?
[03:27] <Liz> deFrysk, cant i install the kernel thats on the disk and overwrite the other one?
[03:27] <robotgeek> Liz: you don't need to reinstall :)
[03:27] <odd_> liz, boot with a live cd and do a backup of your data..you may be able to fix the kernal that way too
[03:27] <jmagg> would anyone like to help a noob?
[03:27] <afaik> -d1
[03:28] <deFrysk> GNU-GPL, why did you ping me ?
[03:28] <robotgeek> Liz: all you need to do is to change the initrd links, i'll guide u thru it
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> afaik, yeah, but i don't kno if tis made any difference, my dvd playback is still jerky as ever
[03:28] <stjepan> hello
[03:28] <Liz> ok robotgeek ..ive booted into liveCD..
[03:28] <robotgeek> !tell jacaru about anyone
[03:28] <stjepan> I installed portage on Ubuntu
[03:28] <GNU-GPL> deFrysk, to make you ask me that question
[03:28] <odd_> liz has a good idea..
[03:28] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:28] <stjepan> yes, GNU-GPL :)
[03:28] <stjepan> I did it
[03:28] <odd_> robo too..sheesh these fingers!!
[03:28] <deFrysk> GNU-GPL, only women can ping me so stop that ;p
[03:28] <robotgeek> Liz: open up a terminal
[03:28] <{cYanide}> question i have a cdrom and a dvdwriter, my cdrom being  /cdrom  what would my dvdburner be?
[03:29] <CookedGryphon> and also my dvd software only plays.. ahem.. "homemade" dvds, i thinjhk i need dvdcss or something but following the wiki instructions didn't work
[03:29] <stjepan> and now, do I really have to reinstall all with portage?
[03:29] <Liz> robotgeek, normal terminal or root terminal?
[03:29] <stjepan> because portage can't find installed programs with APT
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> stjepan, that logical
[03:29] <stjepan> yeah
[03:29] <robotgeek> Liz: normal one
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> both have their own databases
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:29] <stjepan> now all reinstall
[03:29] <stjepan> ufff
[03:29] <stjepan> :(
[03:29] <topyli> CookedGryphon: libdvdcss should be in multiverse
[03:29] <GNU-GPL> i would do that
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> err
[03:30] <stjepan> :)
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> wouldn't
[03:30] <stjepan> why not?
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> no point?
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:30] <stjepan> yeah, you wouldn't install portage :D
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> topyli, ta
[03:30] <Liz> robotgeek,keep going..
[03:30] <demantik> lmao..."FFS! i think i know why dhcp wouldnt work!!....why?....my cable was laying on the floor!!"
[03:30] <stjepan> GNU-GPL: that is official!!!
[03:30] <robotgeek> Liz: is your / filesystem mounted automagically? see with mount
[03:30] <GNU-GPL> stjepan, ?
[03:31] <Serengeti> jmagg, try and ask your question, maybe someone'll be able to help
[03:31] <GNU-GPL> demantik, LOL
[03:31] <deFrysk> demantic should be dementic ;p
[03:31] <CookedGryphon> topyli, it aint
[03:31] <stjepan> GNU-GPL: that, installing portage on ubuntu, it is official
[03:31] <test34> does ubuntu includes a "ps" like program for X ?
[03:31] <stjepan> can I uninstall APT?
[03:31] <GNU-GPL> no
[03:31] <SymGeosis> lol @ stjepan.
[03:31] <GNU-GPL> hell no
[03:31] <stjepan> what?
[03:31] <stjepan> I want to uninstall all packages
[03:31] <janriis> Hi guys, I want to install tuxracer, but cant seem to find it using apt-cache search ^tux
[03:32] <GNU-GPL> stjepan, why on earth would you do this
[03:32] <stjepan> because I am going to install them with portage!
[03:32] <azriel0184> stjepan, as smart as that may sound, it would be much faster to just format your harddrive...
[03:32] <GNU-GPL> better install gentoo then, if you want portage
[03:32] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:32] <Liz> robotgeek, kinda..
[03:32] <stjepan> huh
[03:32] <CookedGryphon> janriis, it should jsut be tuxracer
[03:32] <azriel0184> it accomplish close to the same thing
[03:32] <robotgeek> Liz: where is /dev/hdax mounted at?
[03:33] <stjepan> ok ok
[03:33] <janriis> CookedGryphon: but what do I have to add to sources.list to find it ?
[03:33] <Liz> robotgeek, no where..its not showing it at all in mount
[03:33] <topyli> CookedGryphon: sure enough, it's not. strange
[03:33] <CookedGryphon> janriis, do u ahve all the repositories?
[03:33] <stjepan> I want to just reinstall xorg and gnome
[03:33] <CookedGryphon> !repos
[03:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:33] <stjepan> so, how to uninstall xorg and gnome?
[03:33] <stjepan> :)
[03:33] <demantik> "Hi guys, I want to install tuxrace" damn...
[03:34] <GNU-GPL> demantik: apt-get install tuxracer ?
[03:34] <janriis> No I dont, just installed the basic Ubuntu dist.
[03:34] <topyli> stjepan: remove something like xlibs and everything should be removed
[03:34] <odd_> GNU_, your mean..Gentoo needs a lot of setup
[03:34] <CookedGryphon> janriis, add the repos on that link to ure /var/apt/sources.list
[03:34] <odd_> heh
[03:34] <robotgeek> Liz: okay, then we have to mount your /dev/hda. do "mkdir ubuntu" followed by "sudo mount /dev/hdax ubuntu"
[03:35] <GNU-GPL> odd_, no i mean, if he want portage so badly, use gentoo
[03:35] <stjepan> topyli: but what will not be removed?
[03:35] <odd_> uhyup, i got it..
[03:35] <janriis> Ok, thx CookedGryphon
[03:35] <stjepan> xlibs removes only 24 packages
[03:35] <odd_> hehheh
[03:35] <deFrysk> a very clueless person....
[03:35] <robotgeek> stjepan: try xserver-xorg-core
[03:35] <odd_> just flinging stuff around on this fine Sat morning
[03:36] <topyli> stjepan: really? hmm. perhaps it still doesn't remove X clients because they can be run on a remote server. try to add GTK to the list :)
[03:36] <stjepan> GNU-GPL: what???
[03:36] <jacaru> i want to see the TV on linux
[03:37] <stjepan> topyli: what about ubuntu-desktop? :)
[03:37] <robotgeek> stjepan: or apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <stjepan> yeah
[03:37] <stjepan> :)
[03:37] <topyli> stjepan: that would not remove a thing besides ubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <stjepan> GNU-GPL: troubles? why do you think that?
[03:37] <GNU-GPL> stjepan, joking
[03:37] <GNU-GPL> :)
[03:37] <stjepan> :D
[03:37] <stjepan> haha
[03:38] <stjepan> joking?
[03:38] <odd_> arf-arf
[03:38] <GNU-GPL> odd_, that sounded like a god, licking his b*lls
[03:38] <GNU-GPL> err
[03:38] <GNU-GPL> dog
[03:38] <stjepan> oke
[03:38] <stjepan> now I am going to do that
[03:38] <stjepan> see you later
[03:39] <stjepan> ;)
[03:39] <stjepan> cya
[03:39] <robotgeek> Liz: did u manage to mount it?
[03:39] <odd_> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee waves
[03:39] <GNU-GPL> stjepan, doing what? licking your b*lls?
[03:39] <GNU-GPL> :P
[03:39] <stjepan> :)
[03:39] <Tommck> hello all... I am new to ubuntu, not new to linux.  I jus installed Hoary and my network card, which was originally recognized in the install, now will not get a connection... can't get DHCP... I've tried "ifconfig eth0 down/up"... nothing's going on.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?  I have lots of tulip "tulip_stop_rxtx () failed" messages in dmesg output too
[03:39] <stjepan> cya
[03:39] <izmaelis> how can i get my skype working with dmix?
[03:39] <GNU-GPL> cya
[03:39] <Liz> robotgeek, i get an error..says wrong fs type..bad option..bad superblock dev/hda1 ..missing codepage or other error..."
[03:40] <Liz> robotgeek, then it says to do dmesg | tail...and that gives me the following error on ext2-fa: had1: couldnt mount because of unsupported option features"
[03:40] <izmaelis> cause everything works with sw mixing fine, but skype doesn't
[03:40] <robotgeek> Liz: try mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 ubuntu . if not working, try with hda2 till we find your / partition
[03:41] <Tommck> oh... had a typo in my google search... forget it ... the drivers for this card suck
[03:41] <kemik> fdisk -l
[03:41] <FaeWolfe> Can someone help me? I'm trying to run synaptic and I get this : E: Not locked
[03:42] <kemik> Liz:  what does "fdisk -l" say?
[03:42] <topyli> does totem-gstreamer on breezy work with more formats than before? gstreamer is still 0.8 though
[03:42] <robotgeek> kemik: :)
[03:42] <robotgeek> Liz: sudo fdisk -l
[03:42] <Myrtti> llo
[03:42] <FaeWolfe> then it tells me to run dpkg --configure -a ...I do and it tells me I need to run something else
[03:43] <Liz> robotgeek, that work...its mounted
[03:43] <Serengeti> ok I know it's not strictly an ubuntu question, but it seems that once I've entered #gnome people stopped talking ;) so basically I'd like to know what gtk widget could I use to draw antialiased graphs (something like this: http://pmail.pl/~ak/funkcje/)
[03:43] <kemik> i guess problem's solved ;)
[03:43] <robotgeek> kemik: nope, we need to fix her system to run from older kernel
[03:43] <kemik> ouch
[03:43] <Serengeti> I mean a widget that would allow me to draw lots of very short antialiased straight lines :)
[03:44] <AntonVerburg> Hello
[03:44] <robotgeek> kemik: i hope i am not taking the long way around this, but i wanted to change the initrd symlinks and run grub again
[03:44] <Hoxzer> eh... :E
[03:44] <Hoxzer> I put in my CD
[03:44] <AntonVerburg> I just tried to install the latest version of ubuntu breezy cdrom,
[03:44] <Hoxzer> and it did't create a icon
[03:44] <Hoxzer> so I cannot eject it :E
[03:44] <robotgeek> Liz: cd ubuntu/boot
[03:44] <Hoxzer> what should I do? :D
[03:44] <AntonVerburg> but it seems to be corrupted someway
[03:45] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, hit eject in console
[03:45] <AntonVerburg> Am I the only one with this problem, or are there more?
[03:45] <Liz> robotgeek, done..
[03:45] <deFrysk> AntonVerburg, worked fine here
[03:45] <LethAL-Rocks> Loads of people are having problems with breezy or so it seems
[03:46] <LethAL-Rocks> It hasn't been fully released afaick
[03:46] <Hoxzer> deFrysk: yeah, it did it with other cd rom :D
[03:46] <robotgeek> Liz: do an ls -al and tell me do you see initrd.img points to something else?
[03:46] <LethAL-Rocks> afaik*
[03:46] <hop> BlueEagle: got it working yesterday
[03:46] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, lol
[03:46] <hop> BlueEagle: took the easy way out and swapped the physical drives
[03:46] <kemik> robotgeek:  dont know what the original question was.... and im going back to the telly... :)
[03:46] <robotgeek> kemik: kk
[03:46] <kemik> goodluck
[03:46] <jacaru> anybody has sound working in breezy with an audigy 1 player?
[03:46] <Hoxzer> defFrysk: yes...its pretty funny :D
[03:46] <hop> BlueEagle: would have worked with editing yaboot.conf too, but i was too lazy to do that ;)
[03:47] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, try umount <device>
[03:47] <hop> BlueEagle: thanks again for the help
[03:47] <Hoxzer> linux just hjacked my cd
[03:47] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[03:47] <robotgeek> kemik: basically her pc stopped booting after a kernel upgrade
[03:47] <LethAL-Rocks> Hoxzer, Right-click the cd icons on the desktop and click eject
[03:47] <LethAL-Rocks> icon*
[03:47] <Hoxzer> Lethal: there is no icon :D
[03:47] <LethAL-Rocks> Um..
[03:47] <LethAL-Rocks> Do you know the device?
[03:47] <poypoy> unmount it via terminal, except I don't know the command :\
[03:47] <deFrysk> sudo umount <device>
[03:47] <majnoon> ok in live cd is there a way to install over the net ??
[03:48] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo umount <deveice> -l
[03:48] <Hoxzer> lethal: no :E
[03:48] <LethAL-Rocks> ah
[03:48] <Hoxzer> I thought it was cdrom0
[03:48] <LethAL-Rocks> Where is it mounted?
[03:48] <deFrysk> lol
[03:48] <Hoxzer> but seems not
[03:48] <LethAL-Rocks> would be /media/cdrom0
[03:48] <Liz> robotgeek, next to initrd.img-2.6.10=5=386
[03:48] <Hoxzer> lehtal: it isn't mounted I think
[03:48] <Hoxzer> oh, Media :E
[03:48] <Hoxzer> forgot
[03:48] <LethAL-Rocks> And it still won't let you eject?
[03:48] <robotgeek> Liz: can you see stuff like initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.12-7-powerpc
[03:48] <Liz> robotgeek, nope, just what i typed up there
[03:49] <enyc> lastlog -force
[03:49] <deFrysk> hexmust be a female box , they never do what you tell them to do ;p
[03:49] <Liz> with - instead of = tho..thats a type on my part
[03:49] <Hoxzer> ...still ...
[03:49] <Hoxzer> can't get it out
[03:49] <robotgeek> Liz: did u do a 'ls -al'
[03:49] <enyc> Errrm
[03:49] <poypoy> What device (/dev/bla/ thing) are sata on, I've got one SATA harddrive with 4 partitions (windows/storage(fat32)/swap/linux) and want to mount the storage drive (permananly), anyone know how?
[03:49] <CookedGryphon> Hoxzer, is it an audio cd?
[03:50] <Liz> yep...and next to initrd i get initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386..thats all
[03:50] <enyc> poyp: usually /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc. I think
[03:50] <Hoxzer>  no
[03:50] <poypoy> ok
[03:50] <poypoy> and how to access individual partitions?
[03:50] <CookedGryphon> Hoxzer, how'd u manage to get it in and not mounted?
[03:50] <robotgeek> Liz: do u also have an initrd.img.old
[03:50] <vassie> hello, is anyone using banshee on breezy?
[03:50] <Hoxzer> YEAH!
[03:50] <Hoxzer> :E sudo eject
[03:50] <poypoy> or can't you?
[03:50] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, any program running using or hyjacking your cdrom ?
[03:50] <LethAL-Rocks> poypoy, you can
[03:51] <majnoon> ok i'm in the live cd is there a way to install over the net ??
[03:51] <enyc> poyb: but that dpends.. those devoce names are dynamically allocated and shared with SCSI and hardwware-RAID and usb-storage   usually....  but I've heard of later systems using /dev/ud?? for usb-storage...
[03:51] <LethAL-Rocks> What are they formatted as?
[03:51] <poypoy> NTFS, Fat32, swap, ext3
[03:51] <LethAL-Rocks> Which one is the one you want to mount?
[03:51] <alien8> poypoy: mine are /dev/sda from my adaptec sata controller
[03:51] <poypoy> Fat32 (second one) is what I want to see (has all my data on  it)
[03:51] <Liz> robotgeek, nope.
[03:51] <azriel0184> poypoy, sata drives are recognised as /dev/sd* and partitions are accessed the same as ide harddrives
[03:51] <LethAL-Rocks> and you want it to happen on boot?
[03:51] <poypoy> yeah, but i don't know how on ide drives :\
[03:51] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[03:52] <poypoy> yes LethAL-Rocks
[03:52] <enyc> Urrrm
[03:52] <LethAL-Rocks> terminal>  cd /etc
[03:52] <robotgeek> Liz: what all can u see in the folder? can u see two or three different versions of kernel?
[03:52] <enyc> I really want to undersnad better the problem  with ubuntu kernel-source packages in  BREEZY not working right...  complaingn about gcc-3.4 missing....
[03:52] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo -e fstab
[03:52] <enyc> Should they be able to use gcc-4.0 ??
[03:53] <poypoy> done
[03:53] <thierry> hi, I did a apt-get dist-upgrade on my hoary system, and it seems that the new kernel didn't show up on GDM, and now when I start with the old one, X doesn't start.... what should I do
[03:53] <LethAL-Rocks> enyc, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4?
[03:53] <enyc> is breezy's 2.6.12 simply compiled with gcc-3.4 anyway ??
[03:53] <Liz> robotgeek, nope..i see grub..then initrd.img..vmlinux...memtest...sysmap...and config
[03:53] <poypoy> But... now what...
[03:53] <enyc> why is this happening?
[03:53] <LethAL-Rocks> go down
[03:53] <deFrysk> enyc, install it ? as LethAL-Rocks said ?
[03:53] <enyc> why does the menuconfig / related scripts  look for gcc-3.4 and not just use the 4.0 that is installed ?
[03:53] <poypoy> oh nm
[03:53] <poypoy> I found it :)
[03:53] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[03:53] <LethAL-Rocks> make sense?
[03:53] <enyc> defr: well indeed. thats a workaround.. but I dont understnad whats going on
[03:53] <enyc> and, I want to know what gcc built the breezy kernel ;-)
[03:54] <poypoy> actually, it doesnt but I think i've figurted it out
[03:54] <poypoy> gonna try /dev/sda2
[03:54] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[03:54] <deFrysk> enyc, what are you trying to compile ?
[03:54] <robotgeek> Liz: i thought there would be backups, let's see if we can copy the image off the live cd. This is going to take a lot more work than i thought :)
[03:54] <jmagg> just installed Breezy, cant seem to see my windows shares can anyone help?
[03:54] <LethAL-Rocks> If you want to know which partition is where, try sudo apt-get install Gparted
[03:54] <poypoy> ok... but
[03:54] <LethAL-Rocks> And then run GParted from the system Tools menu
[03:54] <Liz> robotgeek, i appreciate you taking the time to do this....
[03:54] <enyc> defr:im trying to  compile an understanding of the gcc-finding vehaviour of ubuntu's "linux-source-2.6.12"
[03:55] <poypoy> how do I get it on boot?
[03:55] <enyc> ~ behaviour
[03:55] <CookedGryphon> !windowsdrives
[03:55] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:55] <LethAL-Rocks> add it to etc/fstab
[03:55] <robotgeek> Liz: no problem, i'll be back in 2 minutes after a smoke.
[03:55] <deFrysk> enyc, good luch w/that
[03:55] <deFrysk> luck*
[03:55] <SkramX-> Ok, I have a default install of ubutnu.. can someone help me get ssh working?
[03:55] <LethAL-Rocks> Open Synaptic and search for it
[03:56] <enyc> defr: Im not sure if there is a reason ubuntu's kernel makeconfig wants to find gcc-3.4 .. it doesn't make sense....
[03:56] <LethAL-Rocks> System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[03:56] <deFrysk> enyc, did you install build-essential ?
[03:56] <enyc> defr: I would have expected breezy's kernel was built with gcc-4.0 in the first place ?
[03:56] <SkramX-> me, LethAL-Rocks ?
[03:56] <LethAL-Rocks> Yeah
[03:56] <LethAL-Rocks> SOrry
[03:56] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[03:56] <enyc> defr: err unsure, I'll go find out ;p
[03:57] <deFrysk> just install the gcc you need
[03:57] <SkramX-> LethAL-Rocks: openssh?>
[03:57] <LethAL-Rocks> Yeah
[03:57] <LethAL-Rocks> That's a good'un ;)
[03:57] <poypoy> terminal command to remove directories?
[03:57] <LethAL-Rocks> Then check mark all upgrades and click smart upgrade, then apply
[03:57] <SkramX-> sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/pcmcia
[03:57] <SkramX-> oops
[03:57] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[03:57] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[03:57] <str8edge> poypoy rm -r directory (unsafe) or rmdir directory
[03:58] <deFrysk> apt-get install source dep (package> to get all needed deps
[03:58] <SkramX-> root@acer:~# /etc/init.d/ssh start * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[03:58] <SkramX-> LethAL-Rocks: thats what it tells me
[03:58] <LethAL-Rocks> :(
[03:58] <LethAL-Rocks> I dunno much about ssh
[03:58] <SkramX-> fuck
[03:58] <deFrysk> apt-get source dep (package> to get all needed deps
[03:58] <LethAL-Rocks> !tell SkramX- about ssh
[03:59] <str8edge> !ssh
[03:59] <ubotu> I heard ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[03:59] <LethAL-Rocks> I allready got it to tell him/her
[03:59] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[03:59] <FaeWolfe> Can someone please help me out?
[03:59] <LethAL-Rocks> FaeWolfe, with what?
[03:59] <SkramX-> hmm
[04:00] <FaeWolfe> LethAL........I am trying to update, and am getting errors with update manager, synaptic and terminal
[04:00] <LethAL-Rocks> What are you updating?
[04:00] <LethAL-Rocks> And what error(s)
[04:00] <deFrysk> and what repos ;p
[04:01] <chiisai> My kernel/initrd/whatever is messed up, so I'm greeted with an VFS error when I try to boot Ubuntu. Is there a command I can type that will reinstall the kernel?
[04:01] <CookedGryphon> ok, grip is going really slowly and giving rubbish mp3s
[04:01] <guydebord> Hello everyone, still learning here. I have a question about the "chmod" command. Basically, I am trying to use my scanner as a normal user. I can see my scanner under /proc/bus/usb/001. However, when i try "chmod -R 777" I get a message that there are few arguments. This is all according to the help of some one else, and I have no idea of octal digits.  Anyone can give me a hand?
[04:01] <LethAL-Rocks> Remove the -R I think
[04:01] <SkramX-> root@acer:~# sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:01] <SkramX-> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:01] <deFrysk> CookedGryphon, set it to 192 kbps
[04:01] <SkramX-> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:01] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh
[04:01] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo it
[04:01] <SkramX-> thats what I get
[04:01] <FaeWolfe> I got that "signal" that there were updates available for the system, so I went to update..........
[04:01] <FaeWolfe> the error that I get with synaptic is that E: is not locked
[04:01] <deFrysk> SkramX-, shut down synaptic
[04:02] <LethAL-Rocks> SkramX-, that's because you have synaptic or uum open
[04:02] <chiisai> guydebord, what directory do you need to type this in?
[04:02] <Hoxzer> :D
[04:02] <_lui_> is there an application similar to object dock in linux?
[04:02] <SkramX-> ok
[04:02] <SkramX-> well
[04:02] <SkramX-> so i aot-get openssh-server
[04:02] <FaeWolfe> then it tells me that dpkg was interrupted and to run  dpkg --configure -a
[04:03] <Tommck> I just had to rearrange my drives because of an IRQ conflict on the machine, and ubuntu kernel panics when booting.  Can someone help me repoint tings to the right drive?
[04:03] <jmagg> thank you
[04:04] <SymGeosis> Tommck, try using your live disk and typing "rescue"
[04:04] <Tommck> ahh... duh
[04:05] <SymGeosis> Tommck, it'll ask you which drive to mount as root... if you get it wrong just keep on using that live disk.
[04:05] <pel> is there a current problem with ch.archive.ubuntu.com? my install hangs there after two identical boxes installed fine...
[04:05] <Tommck> SymGeosis - thanks a lot
[04:05] <SymGeosis> Tommck, np.
[04:05] <synic> anyone using breezy having trouble mounting their swap partition?
[04:05] <chiisai> How can I find out what kernel I'm using via the command line?
[04:05] <LethAL-Rocks> uname something
[04:05] <LethAL-Rocks> Dunno what
[04:06] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: what exactly does the rescue mode have?
[04:06] <topyli> chiisai: uname -r
[04:06] <robotgeek> chiisai: uname -a
[04:06] <deufo> hi peeps, my laptop won't wake up after suspend to ram
[04:06] <deufo> anyone know y?
[04:06] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, not much. You can mess with basic install settings, that's about it.
[04:06] <LethAL-Rocks> deufo, how far does it get?
[04:06] <Tommck> SymGeosis - it says "could not find kernel image: rescue" from the live CD
[04:06] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, though most of it is automated.
[04:07] <deufo> LethAL-Rocks, the screen stays black
[04:07] <SymGeosis> Tommck, sorry I was unclear. I meant your install cd.
[04:07] <deufo> LethAL-Rocks, but the power light stays on instead of flashing when suspend to ram
[04:07] <Tommck> oh.. ok
[04:07] <LethAL-Rocks> deufo, I'm not sure... can you hard cold-reboot it?
[04:07] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: cause i am helping out Liz here. her PC refuses to boot after kernel upgrade.
[04:08] <azazel_ubuntu> anyone know of any mail notification applets for gnome? or a way to setup evolution to notify you in the systray or whatever of new mail?
[04:08] <deufo> LethAL-Rocks, nup, i need to pull plug and battery
[04:08] <LethAL-Rocks> You can't hold down the power button for about 10s and it goes off?
[04:08] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, as I said, most of the install cd's rescue mode is automated so I'd give it a shot. You can also chroot into your distro through the cd as well.
[04:08] <deufo> LethAL-Rocks, lol, never tried that
[04:08] <LethAL-Rocks> deufo, that is what I meant ;)
[04:09] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: i am currently betting on chrooting, then apt-getting the fixed kernel
[04:09] <LethAL-Rocks> brb
[04:09] <sJaM> why do some programs not appear in the menu after installing them via apt, while it use to be on my previous comp?
[04:09] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: if it has been fixed, that is
[04:09] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, if you follow the automated process to the end it'll eventually drop you into a chrooted shell.
[04:10] <Liz> SymGeosis, is that recovery mode on the install cd?
[04:10] <robotgeek> oh, okay...that would be nice
[04:10] <SymGeosis> Liz, yes.
[04:10] <enyc> deFr: no, but I have build-essential now, and still just as lost
[04:10] <robotgeek> Liz: :)
[04:10] <Liz> SymGeosis, right..ill give that a go
[04:10] <enyc> defr: im used to the top of the kernel messages having the kernel version / build-gcc ...
[04:10] <enyc> This is always off the top etc. ;-(
[04:11] <enyc> e.g.   Linux version 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 (root@1337) (gcc version 3.3.5
[04:11] <enyc> Butt...
[04:11] <enyc> I cant find that out of the ubuntu kernel ;-(
[04:11] <deufo> any ubuntu kernel's support suspend2?
[04:11] <SymGeosis> enyc, are you saying uname -a doesn't work?
[04:12] <mumbles> cgiirc-0.5.7.tar.gz
[04:12] <mumbles> erm damd cp
[04:12] <bur[n] er> enyc: using breezy?  it's gcc4 if you are
[04:13] <mumbles> how would i untar the above file ? tar xvfz dosent work
[04:13] <bur[n] er> mumbles: open it with "file-roller"
[04:13] <robotgeek> mumbles: tar -zxf
[04:13] <Tommck> SymGeosis - any help on how to change my boot partition?
[04:13] <azriel0184> someone needs to make a logbrowser for gaim...
[04:13] <enyc> symg: erm.. uname -a  doesnt give that info...
[04:13] <enyc> symg: but its usually printed by the kernel at startup
[04:14] <robotgeek> enyc: gcc -v?
[04:14] <mumbles> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[04:14] <SymGeosis> enyc, I get your question now. I just had to re-read it. Sorry.
[04:14] <mik3> hi i just copied a bunch of files from one mounted had drive to another mounted hard drive, and before i moved them and viewed the directory in the gnome file browser it would show a thumbnail of the movies when i had it as 'view as list'. now that i have moved them to the other hard drive they have an icon with a lock over them
[04:14] <_lui_> how do I use a cursor theme I have downloaded from GNOME-look?
[04:14] <SymGeosis> Tommck, are you in the install cd's rescue mode?
[04:14] <Tommck> SymGeosis - yeah
[04:14] <Tommck> I just got a shell
[04:14] <Tommck> gotta edit my grub menu.lst?
[04:15] <mik3> i copied them over in a root terminal and then chmod 777 the directory
[04:15] <robotgeek> mumbles: try gunzip too :)
[04:15] <enyc> Hrrm.. Well.. actualyl I can see the relevnt string in the kernel binary.. and it doesn't state the gcc version
[04:15] <SymGeosis> Tommck, you want to change your boot partition to another partition?
[04:15] <Tommck> SymGeosis - I moved the drive... so yes
[04:15] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: does the rescue mode mount your drives too?
[04:16] <CookedGryphon> what's the best quality mp3 ripper? i've had several different answers so far
[04:16] <chiisai> My linux-image is broken for some reason, and I get an VFS error when I try to boot Ubuntu. I tried running 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-5-386' but got this error: Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386)    - What can I do to reinstall the kernel?
[04:16] <SymGeosis> Tommck, the easiest way is to use grub-install /dev/[drive here] 
[04:16] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, it asks you which drive you would like to mount as root, so partially.
[04:16] <Tommck> and I just have to figure out the drive dev
[04:16] <Tommck> CookedGryphon - if you want quality, don't use MP3
[04:17] <robotgeek> chiisai: are u on hoary?
[04:17] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes
[04:17] <SymGeosis> Tommck, mount it and then take a look around. ;-)
[04:17] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: lame
[04:17] <Tommck> SymGeosis  - good point
[04:17] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: er.... lame codec with grip
[04:17] <CookedGryphon> Tommck, my only other choice is wma! cos that's all my mp3 player will play
[04:17] <robotgeek> chiisai: did u just update?
[04:17] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, i have that nits crap
[04:18] <robotgeek> vlc!!
[04:18] <LethAL-Rocks> How can I use 3dwm, I can't find it on the login screen
[04:18] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: it's crap?  change the settings!
[04:18] <Tommck> CookedGryphon - ahh
[04:18] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes, I updated some kind of linux package some days ago, and it wouldn't boot when I rebooted
[04:18] <chaitat> I am using Hoary, how can i upgrade to breezy?
[04:18] <chiisai> robotgeek, I can't remember getting any errors
[04:18] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo apt-dist upgrade I think, but breezy isn't finished
[04:18] <robotgeek> chiisai: so this is the first time you booted after upgrading?
[04:18] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: use a 192 bitrate :)
[04:19] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[04:19] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, its also reallly slow, tho i think that's my drive, it goes at like 2x
[04:19] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes
[04:19] <CookedGryphon> and plays dvds really slow
[04:19] <LethAL-Rocks> Me needs more help. How can I use 3dwm, I can't find it on the login screen
[04:19] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: could be because it's going for best quality rip as opposed to pure speed
[04:19] <CookedGryphon> its not like that in window
[04:19] <chiisai> robotgeek, so obviously something went wrong and I need to reinstall it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696
[04:19] <chaitat> LethAL-Rocks, thx!
[04:19] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: dma?
[04:19] <bur[n] er> !dma
[04:19] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[04:19] <LethAL-Rocks> np
[04:19] <bur[n] er> hrm... !dvd
[04:19] <robotgeek> okay, i think something is wrong with the newer kernels, i hope the fixed it now
[04:19] <bur[n] er> !dvd
[04:19] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[04:19] <mik3> hi i just copied a bunch of files from one mounted had drive to another mounted hard drive, and before i moved them and viewed the directory in the gnome file browser it would show a thumbnail of the movies when i had it as 'view as list'. now that i have moved them to the other hard drive they have an icon with a lock over them
[04:19] <mik3> i copied them over in a root terminal and then chmod 777 the directory
[04:19] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, i think i have that enables
[04:19] <mik3> what am i missing
[04:20] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: works well here ;)
[04:20] <LethAL-Rocks> chmod the files
[04:20] <mik3> how
[04:20] <LethAL-Rocks> or chown then
[04:20] <SymGeosis> CookedGryphon, try hdparm /dev/[drive]  if you want to be sure.
[04:20] <LethAL-Rocks> them*
[04:20] <LethAL-Rocks> man chown
[04:20] <jacek> !hoary-extras
[04:20] <ubotu> well, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:21] <Gobbla> 154,8 fps in fgl_glxgears, is that acceptable?
[04:21] <SymGeosis> Gobbla, as long as your computer does what you need it to do, yes.
[04:21] <mik3> chon oked fine
[04:21] <Tommck> SymGeosis - grub-install takes /dev/hdb or /dev/hdb1 ?
[04:21] <mik3> erm
[04:21] <mik3> chown worked fine
[04:21] <umberleigh> does anyone know which startup script i need to add the line "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to to get mplayer to work?
[04:21] <spola> so ... how long untill we have a "install support for restricted formats" button (yes i want a BUTTON)? It's about the only thing missing IMHO
[04:21] <robotgeek> okay, someone did file a bug report. phew
[04:21] <forss> can someone tell some good themes? icons or smth?
[04:21] <topyli> bur[n] er: totem seems to fail with a lot of files on breezy. mpg:s even
[04:21] <CookedGryphon> SymGeosis, it says dma is on, 256 readahead ,(15:00:24) -=Si=-: @~{}@@~
[04:21] <charlesj> anybody knows how to change window behaviour during minimize/maximize?
[04:21] <SymGeosis> Tommck, It's been awhile but I'd say /dev/hdb1. If you give me a second I can check.
[04:22] <charlesj> i hate that wireframe mode
[04:22] <Tommck> great... I haven't messed with grub much in the past
[04:22] <Liz> SymGeosis, i cant see the recovery mode on the install disk
[04:22] <Liz> there is no option that i can see
[04:22] <topyli> bur[n] er: altough right now i'm fighting a .mov
[04:22] <LethAL-Rocks> The recovery mode is in grub
[04:22] <Tommck> Liz - I just typed "rescue" ath the prompt
[04:22] <robotgeek> SymGeosis: the rescue is on the install disk or the live cd?
[04:23] <bur[n] er> topyli: even with all the gstreamer codecs?  try totem-xine ?
[04:23] <Tommck> rescue is on the install disk
[04:23] <SymGeosis> Liz, you typed "rescue"?
[04:23] <charlesj> forss: 6nome totally owns my a**!
[04:23] <SymGeosis> robotgeek, the install cd.
[04:23] <SkramX-> what about getting my acer aspire 3000 wireless card working? i think its a broadcom
[04:23] <mik3> what's a good file browsing/managing application?
[04:23] <LethAL-Rocks> nautilus for gnome
[04:24] <topyli> bur[n] er: i do have totem-xine
[04:24] <charlesj> umberleigh: what's the error you're getting?
[04:24] <LethAL-Rocks> konqueror (sp?) for KDE
[04:24] <CookedGryphon> y is totem so crap n slow playing dvds, i don' thitnk my drive's reading fast enuf, i get 360 fps in glxgears
[04:24] <robotgeek> SkramX-: did u take a look at ndiswrapper
[04:24] <Tommck> SymGeosis - any luck?
[04:24] <robotgeek> !ndiswrapper
[04:24] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:24] <SkramX-> no
[04:24] <LethAL-Rocks> 360 fps is fast enough ;)
[04:25] <azriel0184> CookedGryphon, consider yourself lucky that its working at all
[04:25] <robotgeek> SkramX-: is your card supported on the ndiswrapper wiki?
[04:25] <SkramX-> lemme see
[04:25] <charlesj> anybody knows how to change window behaviour during minimize/maximize? or during dragging?
[04:25] <topyli> bur[n] er: mplayer plays this but totem doesn't: http://www.whitestkids.com.nyud.net:8090/video2/whisky.mov
[04:25] <umberleigh> charlesj: is there somewhere i can paste mplayers output?
[04:25] <SymGeosis> Tommck, I think you'd go with hda not hda1 (or whatever you mentioned)
[04:25] <umberleigh> ie. somewhere that won't flood the chan
[04:26] <bur[n] er> topyli: i'll get it and let you know if I can play it
[04:26] <charlesj> umberleigh: i'm new around here.... but take a look at the topic
[04:26] <Tommck> SymGeosis - ok...  it says "the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly ?
[04:26] <umberleigh> :-S
[04:26] <charlesj> Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting
[04:26] <SkramX-> robotgeek: how do i get ndiswrapper?
[04:26] <SymGeosis> Tommck, then try hda1 or whatever it was. =)
[04:26] <SkramX-> no apt-get for it
[04:27] <umberleigh> will do, didn't see the topic :S
[04:27] <bur[n] er> topyli: plays here in totem
[04:27] <mik3> wow nautilus sucks
[04:27] <pichler> hi
[04:27] <LethAL-Rocks> gnome-commander maybe
[04:27] <robotgeek> SkramX-: just follow instructions on the wiki
[04:27] <Tommck> hda is wrong
[04:27] <topyli> bur[n] er: ok, time to investigate. thanks
[04:27] <Tommck> hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[04:28] <naxo> yo diria que espavilado
[04:28] <robotgeek> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:28] <naxo> #ubuntu-es
[04:28] <SkramX-> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/List will not load
[04:28] <CookedGryphon> gloh bugger this, i'm gna use ogg n thow away my mp3 player
[04:28] <pichler> Hello, could somebody please tell me if it is possible to get access to the www from an ubuntu computer over a windows router to which the modem is connected
[04:28] <pichler> ?
[04:29] <Planar> pichler, yes
[04:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Windows router? wtf
[04:29] <steffen> Hi! Can someone tell me what the root password in kubuntu is? I didnt get the question in the installation to set one
[04:29] <Planar> pichler, you need to set up internet connection sharing on said windows computer
[04:29] <pichler> well the modem is an usb modem which doesn't get recongized by ubuntu
[04:29] <LethAL-Rocks> steffen, it's the same as your user password
[04:29] <pichler> That I have
[04:29] <Planar> pichler, which modem?
[04:29] <Planar> (model)
[04:29] <LethAL-Rocks> steffen, You won't be able to login to it though
[04:30] <bur[n] er> topyli: w32codecs?  I have no idea what you need
[04:30] <Tommck> SymGeosis thanks for your help, but I jhave to go.
[04:30] <pichler> It's an IPM Datacom
[04:30] <CookedGryphon> steffen, the root account is disabled by default
[04:30] <steffen> well.. i need the root shell
[04:30] <pichler> a cheap one
[04:30] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo <command)
[04:30] <CookedGryphon> steffen, u need to use sudo and ure password
[04:30] <steffen> and when i type my password it shuts down
[04:30] <LethAL-Rocks> ) = >*
[04:30] <CookedGryphon> or sudo passwd n set one
[04:30] <steffen> hmmm
[04:30] <steffen> how ?
[04:30] <SkramX-> i got it via synaptic (ndiswrapper) now what'
[04:30] <steffen> im a noob :P
[04:30] <minime-> maybe then sudo is enough
[04:30] <topyli> bur[n] er: got those too. strangest thing, the trailers at apple.com open nicely in an embedded totem
[04:30] <robotgeek> SkramX-: doesn't load for me too :(
[04:31] <minime-> if you need do something with root, just type sudo <thenyourcommands>
[04:31] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[04:31] <steffen> okay
[04:31] <steffen> will try that
[04:31] <pichler> There are mandrake drivers for that modem but I don't think they will work...
[04:31] <LethAL-Rocks> Orby, if you need to do a lot
[04:31] <minime-> it asks password, give your own
[04:31] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo -i
[04:31] <bur[n] er> topyli: that video is hilarious ;)
[04:31] <SymGeosis> Tommck, np. Get anything figured out?
[04:31] <steffen> Aha! It works, thx :D
[04:31] <Tommck> SymGeosis - not yet...
[04:31] <Kuresu> how do i mount the other partition of my HDD??
[04:32] <topyli> bur[n] er: heh, just a link somebody pasted in another channel :)
[04:32] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo mount /dev/hda?
[04:32] <pichler> So I figured it might work over windows, which has got the driver...
[04:32] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, it depends on the bumber of the drive
[04:32] <LethAL-Rocks> number*
[04:32] <bur[n] er> libquicktime1 - A library for reading and writing Quicktime files  <---maybe you need this topyli?
[04:32] <Planar> pichler, I see the drivers, it is probably possible to get them to work btu that is somewhat outside my area of expertese
[04:32] <bur[n] er> topyli: disregard that... i don't have that  ;)
[04:32] <SkramX-> ok so i got it with synaptic, robotgeek and i downloaded some drivers that should work, where do i put them?
[04:32] <SkramX-> robotgeek: ?
[04:33] <pichler> thank you anyway, Planar
[04:33] <robotgeek> SkramX-: moment
[04:33] <shadikka> Hey, sorry if this really is extremely clearly stated somewhere, but what is the default root password? ^^; Just installed Ubuntu and can't figure it out...
[04:33] <pichler> Planar, would you know how to get it work over the network, though?
[04:33] <Planar> pichler, if you want to use the windows router idea thennit should work, just set up internet connection sharing and it should be fine.  Personally I would go play with the drivers
[04:33] <LethAL-Rocks> It's your user password
[04:33] <bur[n] er> !tell shadikka about sudo
[04:33] <Kuresu> mount: couldn't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:33] <shadikka> OK, thanks ^
[04:33] <steffen> wich MSN client is the best for Linux?
[04:33] <shadikka> *^^
[04:33] <Kuresu> is what it gives me
[04:33] <LethAL-Rocks> Gaim :P
[04:33] <Kuresu> gaim
[04:33] <SkramX-> robotgeek: ok
[04:33] <bur[n] er> steffen: gaim?
[04:33] <LethAL-Rocks> !gaim
[04:33] <ubotu> hmm... gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[04:33] <Planar> pichler, probably
[04:33] <CookedGryphon> How much better than wine is cedega? does it run faster? easier? what?
[04:33] <steffen> oooki
[04:33] <steffen> thx
[04:33] <pichler> Planar, I am not familiar enough with linux to play with the drivers
[04:33] <LethAL-Rocks> cedega is different
[04:34] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: more compatible
[04:34] <bur[n] er> wine won't do warcraft 3... cedega does
[04:34] <LethAL-Rocks> cedega is more like directx ircc
[04:34] <bur[n] er> :)
[04:34] <Clujo> doesnt ubuntu come w/ sshd server?  cant find it.
[04:34] <pichler> so what would I have to do to access the windows computer
[04:34] <robotgeek> SkramX-: did you read the instructions on the wiki link?
[04:34] <LethAL-Rocks> Sypantic
[04:34] <bur[n] er> Clujo: nope, install it
[04:34] <azriel0184> openssh-server
[04:34] <SkramX-> some
[04:34] <pichler> cuz it shows a windows-network icon
[04:34] <Clujo> ohh, ok, thanks azriel0184
[04:34] <umberleigh> charlesj: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2062 (sorry for the delay)
[04:34] <LethAL-Rocks> What's the command to reconfigure xserver?
[04:34] <pichler> but when I click on it there is simply an emty box
[04:35] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, what apart from warcraft does cedega run that wine doesn't?
[04:35] <bur[n] er> pichler: nautilus smb://computernameOripaddress
[04:35] <Planar> pichler, you would need to plug the ubuntu machiene in to the ethernet port on the windows computer, set up connection sharing then it should just work
[04:35] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: got me, i don't play games ;)
[04:35] <Kuresu> i can't mount my windows partition on linux
[04:35] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, what type is it?
[04:35] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: you can, you just don't know how
[04:35] <CookedGryphon> i want to play possibly driver, and supaplex, an ancient dos game
[04:35] <Kuresu> its fat32
[04:35] <Clujo> thanks, bur[n] er
[04:35] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: check the transgaming website
[04:35] <azriel0184> CookedGryphon, ohhh! supaplex!
[04:35] <CookedGryphon> crazy taxi might b nice if it works
[04:35] <azriel0184> CookedGryphon, i dont think you can get .com's to work though :(
[04:35] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: you sure it's not automatically mounted?
[04:36] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, do you know which number drive it is?
[04:36] <pichler> burner, what's an oripadress?
[04:36] <topyli> you can run some old dos games in dosbox
[04:36] <Kuresu> nr 1
[04:36] <CookedGryphon> azriel0184, oh no!
[04:36] <Kuresu> linux is my second partition
[04:36] <CookedGryphon> azriel0184, i need that game, its amazing
[04:36] <Kuresu> shouldn't there be an icon on desktop if its automaticly mounted
[04:36] <bur[n] er>  /dev/hda4      /mnt/hda4 vfat auto,user,uid=000,gid=000,umask=000   0 0 <-- Kuresu, that's my line in /etc/fstab for my fat32
[04:36] <charlesj> umberleigh: just saw
[04:36] <LethAL-Rocks> Yeah
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: check "computer"
[04:36] <azriel0184> CookedGryphon, i may be wrong, but i was looking around a while ago, cos i wanted to play some old sierra games that i have lying around and i couldnt find anything on how to use .com files on linux
[04:37] <bur[n] er> desktop icons are usually only for removable media like cds and usb drives
[04:37] <pichler> Planar, i'll try
[04:37] <LethAL-Rocks> Yup
[04:37] <Kuresu> there's only filesystem
[04:37] <bur[n] er> (though that can be changed in gconf-editor)
[04:37] <larsrohdin> hi, when I look at /proc/meminfo it says that I have about 1GB memory installed. But I know that I have 1,5GB installed... why is that?
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> i'll rty dosbox
[04:37] <Kuresu> and a cd thats in my driver
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> have to go now bye all!
[04:37] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, make a new folder on the desktop
[04:37] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, It will be where the contents of the new fat32 drive will be
[04:37] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: add a line similar to mine to your /etc/fstab maybe?
[04:37] <charlesj> umberleigh: i managed to compile mplayer fine just today.  and i get that "Try adding "echo 1024 >......" line even though mplayer works fine for me
[04:38] <LethAL-Rocks> bur[n] er, I don't think Kuresu would quite understand
[04:38] <az[a] zel> anyone running azureus from the hoary-extras repository?
[04:38] <charlesj> umberleigh: did you compile with gui support?
[04:38] <bpuccio> az[a] zel: yes, I am
[04:38] <LethAL-Rocks> az[a] zel, I downloaded it via the site, works fine
[04:38] <steffen> Weeee! I like kubuntu very much.. It's easy like SuSE, and good as Gentoo :)
[04:38] <az[a] zel> bpuccio, does automatic update work for you?
[04:38] <umberleigh> charlesj: i didn't compile it, i just used mplayer-386 in the repository
[04:39] <bpuccio> I just did one now, but the updates weren't from the extras repository, rather, it was a kernel update, an ssl update, and one other, forget off the top of my head
[04:39] <charlesj> umberleigh: try running gmplayer
[04:39] <dieffel> Hi! Anyone who can tell me a good media test web pages to test out .mov, .wmv, .mpeg, etc. ???
[04:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know a good mp3+m4a player that doesn't do (much) video, i.e. not vlc
[04:39] <shadikka> Is there a way to get a 1280x960 resolution? I don't like 1024x768 (it's just too small (big?) for my taste and 1280x1024 allows only 60Hz)
[04:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Yes, there is
[04:40] <larsrohdin> LethAL-Rocks, xmms playes that I think
[04:40] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm using that atm
[04:40] <bpuccio> az[a] zel: I think that the update-notifier program checks all repositories and lets you know if there is an update to any one of them
[04:40] <umberleigh> i've got it running now. i ran the command manually, as well as 'sudo sysctl -w dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024'
[04:40] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone tell me and shadikka what the xserver reconfigure command is?
[04:40] <charlesj> umberleigh: great :)
[04:40] <az[a] zel> bpuccio, yeah, it does that. it downloads it. but it doesn't apply the update. so everytime I launch azureus, it keeps saying I need to update
[04:40] <shadikka> dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 is the thing I remember from Debian x)
[04:41] <h17m4n> how do I verify the md5 checksum on a file?
[04:41] <charlesj> man.... meatloaf rocks
[04:41] <azriel0184> LethAL-Rocks, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <LethAL-Rocks> azriel0184, what for?
[04:41] <SymGeosis> Anybody remember where the graveyard/old packages are? I can't seem to find the URL...
[04:41] <Kuresu> hmm
[04:41] <Kuresu> mounting does not work
[04:41] <Kuresu> for me
[04:41] <LethAL-Rocks> What are you (trying) to do?
[04:42] <azriel0184> LethAL-Rocks, for reconfiguring xserver :) dpkg-reconfigure works too, but from my experience can screw up a few things with your config file
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> (Kuresu)
[04:42] <Kuresu> mount my windows partition on linux
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> with what command?
[04:42] <steffen> I've got bittorrent now.. used the apt-get install command. but i cant find it, where is it? :S
[04:42] <Kuresu> sudo mount /dev/hda1/
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> ah
[04:42] <h17m4n> How do I check the MD5  of a file?
[04:42] <azriel0184> LethAL-Rocks, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:42] <dieffel> hi! Is the an alternative to Azereus? For Ubuntu?
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> Kuresu, did you make a new folder on the desktop like I said?
[04:43] <Kuresu> yeah
[04:43] <umberleigh> charlesj: i also changed the default video codec to 'Win32/VfW', which eventually got it working
[04:43] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo mount /dev/hda1/ Desktop/<newfolder>
[04:43] <LethAL-Rocks> I think
[04:43] <LethAL-Rocks> I dunno if fat32 requires a type
[04:44] <umberleigh> charlesj: i shan't see if the rtc thing makes a difference until i reboot (i think)
[04:44] <LethAL-Rocks> azriel0184, that was the one I was looking for
[04:44] <h17m4n> dieffel: No need for an alternative, why not get Azureus?
[04:44] <test34> how can I add new refresh rates for X? in xorg.conf right ? I have VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 and I only have 60hz as an option.. what's wrong  ?
[04:44] <LethAL-Rocks> I have a similar problem
[04:44] <LethAL-Rocks> (as test32)
[04:44] <LethAL-Rocks> 34*
[04:44] <bur[n] er> test34: your monitor only supports 60hz?
[04:44] <test34> bur[n] er, no it doesn't
[04:45] <LethAL-Rocks> test34, change the vsync value as well
[04:45] <bur[n] er> can you go higher at a lower resolution?
[04:45] <test34> bur[n] er, I can, but I still only have 60Hz available
[04:45] <charlesj> umberleigh: wouldn't it be easier to use the UI? you wouldn't have to specify anything then...
[04:45] <charlesj> umberleigh: ....considerign you're not passing any additional parameters
[04:45] <pichler> You know what? I was reinstalling ubuntu with the ethernet cable connected and right now it is getting the files from the www, it works!
[04:46] <test34> and the resolution doesnt look right if I go higher... ie: vertical lines that shouldnt be there
[04:46] <LethAL-Rocks> test34, I think you missed out changing the Vsync value
[04:46] <SymGeosis> test34, have you tried "X -config" or "xorgcfg -text-mode"? The first one is auto config where as the second is relatively easy but still manual config.
[04:46] <test34> but I need to change the resolution, because 1024x768 look like 640x480 on windows..
[04:46] <test34> LethAL-Rocks, I will try to add that
[04:46] <LethAL-Rocks> test34, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:47] <umberleigh> charlesj: i've changed the codec family in gMPlayer
[04:47] <LethAL-Rocks> then at one point it will ask which resolutions to use
[04:47] <test34> ok I will try that too, thanks
[04:47] <dieffel> h17m4n, becourse it takes a lot of CPU due to java
[04:47] <dylan_> is there a way that i can get windows media files (like wmv) to play in mozilla firefox or epiphany?
[04:47] <dylan_> movies at all?
[04:47] <pichler> Can I run a bluetooth USB stick on ubuntu?
[04:47] <LethAL-Rocks> pichler, I would think so ;)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> mplayer and vlc i think have firefox plugins.
[04:48] <steffen> Is it made any bittorrent clients for linux?
[04:48] <LethAL-Rocks> pichler, it should automount
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> pichler,  my usb bluetooth adaptor worked fine.
[04:48] <umberleigh> i generally only use straight mplayer when I want to see what's going on, ie. when i've got a problem.
[04:48] <LethAL-Rocks> pichler, try taking it out and plugging it back in again
[04:48] <pichler> No it doesn't. it does under Suse but not under Ubuntu
[04:48] <SkramX> hey.. i have an Acer Aspire 3000-- it shwos my battery as always being 0 percent,w hen i kno that isnt right... any ides?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> steffen,  there are a great many bittorrent clients for linux.
[04:48] <pichler> I have tried that already
[04:48] <charlesj> umberleigh: ok
[04:48] <steffen> can you help me with installing a great client? :D
[04:49] <pichler> is there any menu option to search for the device?
[04:49] <h17m4n> dieffel: Ubuntu comes with a bt client I think.
[04:49] <LethAL-Rocks> It does
[04:49] <LethAL-Rocks> Gnome-bittorrent
[04:49] <pichler> where could I find that client?
[04:49] <steffen> I use kde :P
[04:50] <steffen> sudo apt-get install gnome ?
[04:50] <dieffel> yes... but i need a good client like azereus, but not that CPU hungry :)
[04:50] <h17m4n> then you should have something like... Kbit.... Or Ktorrent
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search
[04:50] <steffen> omg
[04:50] <nxv_> i am trying to sync my handy and evolution whith multisync, as sudo multisync it works
[04:50] <steffen> i love apt (L)
[04:51] <dylan_> can i play movies in mozilla?
[04:51] <dylan_> wmv
[04:51] <robotgeek> dieffel: try the ncurses bt client, very nice
[04:51] <nxv_> as normal user i get no auth error from multisync for my bluetooth handy
[04:51] <h17m4n> Azureus is great... too bad it takes a chunk of ram and a considerable amount of cpu cycles
[04:51] <nxv_> what can i change to get it running
[04:51] <chiisai> I'm having the same problem as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=192994&postcount=17 ...and I got as far as he did. I got initrd and vmlinuz in the correct place, and menu.lst seems fine. I'm getting the same error (Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0))
[04:51] <haffe> Hmmm, would somebody be so kind as to help me get the fglrxdrivers working?
[04:51] <umberleigh> robotgeek: ooh. nice. what's this ncurses-based client called?
[04:52] <steffen> why doesnt bittornado show up in the applications menu?
[04:52] <eruin> PENDINGUPLOAD on a bug
[04:52] <eruin> what does that meananyway?
[04:52] <h17m4n> Question: Is cl-md5 used to run a md5 checksum? If so how is it done? I got a huge distro image that I need to check.
[04:53] <aru> if anyone has a soundblaster audigy platinum please let me know
[04:53] <robotgeek> /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> aru,  i got an audugy2 - it works good. I just had to slide the sliders in the alsa-mixer program a little.
[04:54] <steffen> bash: /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py: No such file or directory
[04:54] <shadikka> I just noticed the same with SB Live 5.1 - the default volume is quite low :/ (alsa-mixer ahoy)
[04:54] <dylan_> can i play wmv movies in epiphany or ffx?
[04:54] <automat> hello.
[04:54] <aru> Dr_Willis: mine is the first one, I can use my front panel just fine for headphones, but when I plug in a mic to the aux input I can hear it in the headphones but can't record from it
[04:54] <test34> is there a way to start using the new xorg.conf without rebooting ?
[04:55] <robotgeek> steffen: okay, maybe u need to install bittorrent
[04:55] <Kuresu> back
[04:55] <Kuresu> i was wrong
[04:55] <steffen> i've installed bittorrent + bittornado
[04:55] <Kuresu> my windows partition is NTFS
[04:55] <Kuresu> but does that make a difference
[04:55] <steffen> my windows is completly gone :D
[04:55] <robotgeek> steffen: i got myself the official client from www.bittorrent.org
[04:56] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: you can only read NTFS unless you use the special "captive NTFS"
[04:56] <steffen> Yeah.. but where does it show up?
[04:56] <bur[n] er> ...NTFS sucks
[04:56] <Kuresu> what does that mean?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> aru,  no clue therre - i cant recall ever using mine to record from. Mine has a knob next to that input port. ya did turn the knob up a little so its not off>?
[04:56] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: you can't write to NTFS
[04:56] <Kuresu> darn
[04:56] <bur[n] er> ...reliably
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:56] <bur[n] er> windows can read ext3 :)
[04:56] <Kuresu> so how do i use the captive ntfs
[04:56] <sashi> hey for wget
[04:56] <sashi> how can i add a proxy?
[04:57] <bur[n] er> don't... reparition the drive and move your data to an ext3 partition :)
[04:57] <steffen> wget is c00l
[04:57] <aru> Dr_Willis: of course, I can hear in the headphones whatever is said into the mic, I just can't select which input I want to record from anywhere
[04:57] <steffen> the first command i learnt
[04:57] <umberleigh> i thought you could write to NTFS reliably now, just that it was uber-restricted
[04:57] <bur[n] er> and get ext2fsd for windows to read the ext3 partition
[04:57] <Kuresu> will it format the drive
[04:57] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: use qtparted to just "resize" it
[04:57] <chiisai> You CAN write, but you have to run a utility that tries to fix the errors afterwards, and then reboot into Windows for chkdsk to fix the rest. Even that doesn't always work. :\
[04:57] <umberleigh> ie. you can only overwrite a file with the same amount of data (which isn't very useful)
[04:58] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: with the extra space after resizing, create a new ext3 or fat32... windows and linux read/write both of those fine
[04:58] <aru> Dr_Willis: if I open a program like audacity, it doesn't allow me to change inputs for recording, neither does sound recorder
[04:58] <steffen> robotgeek: there? .p
[04:58] <steffen> :P
[04:58] <robotgeek> yeah
[04:58] <Kuresu> perhaps i should just change the disk to fat32 in windows
[04:59] <umberleigh> the day full NTFS write support turns stable is the day i w00t for joy and dump fat32
[04:59] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: you can't go from NTFS to fat32 afaik
[04:59] <steffen> where does bittorrent show up when i install it?
[04:59] <steffen> i cant find it
[04:59] <Kuresu> no
[04:59] <Kuresu> could've sworn its possible
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html   - installable ext2/3 file system for windows machines. - been testing this out for the last month
[04:59] <chiisai> I'm having the same problem as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=192994&postcount=17 ...and I got as far as he did. I got initrd and vmlinuz in the correct place, and menu.lst seems fine. I'm getting the same error (Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)) Any solutions that doesn't require me to reinstall everything?
[04:59] <aru> I think you can convert fat32 to NTFS but not the other way around
[05:00] <robotgeek> steffen: did u install bittorrent package?
[05:00] <SkramX> i cant get my wireless card to work
[05:00] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: you don't have to copy files over to a different filesystem for windows to do stuff with it right?
[05:00] <umberleigh> which reminds me, is there any way to fake user permissions on fat32 when it's being read on a linux system? like... i dunno.. store the permissions in a database or something
[05:00] <bur[n] er> you can straight play mp3s and movies from your ext partition in windows?
[05:00] <steffen> yes
[05:00] <vong> has anyone ever used umbrello b4?
[05:00] <steffen> i did this: sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[05:01] <Kuresu> damn
[05:01] <Kuresu> its true
[05:01] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/  <--that's what I use for windows to read/write ext2/3
[05:01] <Kuresu> can't do it the other way around
[05:01] <bur[n] er> Kuresu: i don't lie ;)
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html  Is what i use . :P
[05:01] <shadikka> Err, I can't even read my NTFS mount (Desktop/Windows), except for 'sudo ls Desktop/Windows' etc.
[05:01] <shadikka> What have I now done wrong? ^^;
[05:01] <Kuresu> sorry
[05:02] <SkramX> in ubuntu, how do i change the grub settings>
[05:02] <SkramX> in ubuntu, how do i change the grub settings>
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I can add thje linxu drives to be seen by windows on the fly.
[05:02] <thrush_2> shadikka, check wiki for mounting windows parititions
[05:02] <pkern> Is there a Gnome equivalent of a music player which is as cool as amaroK?
[05:02] <robotgeek> steffen: also see dpkg -L bittorrent
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> SkramX,  depends on what settings you mean.
[05:02] <shadikka> thrush, thanks :)
[05:02] <SkramX> Dr_Willis: like how it looks
[05:03] <steffen> its something there :)
[05:03] <steffen> many files
[05:03] <SkramX> make it automatically go to the menu rather than making me press escape.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> SkramX,  edit the grub.conf or menu.lst all you want.
[05:03] <steffen> but i still dont know how to open the app.
[05:03] <yo2> hi i need a little help
[05:03] <yo2> with the sudo command
[05:03] <yo2> i dont know how to became a root
[05:03] <yo2> :s
[05:04] <SymGeosis> yo2 sudo -s
[05:04] <Kuresu> sudo is root :D
[05:04] <SkramX> Dr_Willis: where?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> thats a faq  even.. Lol.
[05:04] <yo2> let see
[05:04] <robotgeek> steffen: python /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py
[05:04] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: quick question... can you share your ext2/3 partition from windows using samba?
[05:04] <Kuresu> did you guys buy cedega
[05:04] <bur[n] er> that's one limitation of my way
[05:04] <Kuresu> ??
[05:04] <robotgeek> !tell yo2 about sudo
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> SkramX,  if you dont even knwo where /boot/grub/menu.lst is - you MAY not want to be messing with it. :P or at least go read a few of the tutorials.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  lets see... :P
[05:04] <yo2> thanks guys
[05:04] <bur[n] er> it's $5 for 3 months
[05:04] <SymGeosis> yo2, np.
[05:05] <Kuresu> and it works?
[05:05] <Kuresu> with hoary
[05:05] <steffen> python: can't open file '/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[05:05] <steffen> humm
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  it seems i can.
[05:05] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: mine works... until I reboot... then all shares are lost
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> not sure if it will survicve a reboot.
[05:05] <robotgeek> steffen: in dpkg -L bittorrent, where is the file btdownloadcurses.py?
[05:05] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: please don't reboot on my behalf :)  but if you see me some other time... I'm curious :)
[05:06] <bur[n] er> (not that I ever boot windows anymore anyway... just be nice to know ;)
[05:07] <SkramX> WTF
[05:07] <SkramX> i installed ubuntu now i cant really bootfrom cd
[05:07] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:07] <steffen> ./usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.bittorrent
[05:07] <bur[n] er> SkramX: should be totally unrelated
[05:08] <bur[n] er> steffen: just use the gnome bittorrent app ;)
[05:08] <robotgeek> steffen: use that
[05:08] <SkramX> it tries to load grub when i start my comp
[05:08] <topyli> bur[n] er: http://pygme.sourceforge.net/ :-)
[05:08] <SkramX> ?!
[05:08] <bur[n] er> SkramX: change your BIOS to boot from CD
[05:08] <sordic> hey, can i make the upgrade to breezy already without problems ?
[05:08] <HappyFool> SkramX: boot order should be the responsibility of your bios; check the settings there.
[05:09] <FatDarrel> ubuntu 5.10 is out
[05:09] <bur[n] er> topyli: no screenshots?!?! ;)
[05:09] <SkramX> i did and i selected cd and it always goes to grub now
[05:09] <Garyu> can someone recommend a dvd-player with more controls than Totem?
[05:09] <HappyFool> FatDarrel: only a preview, at the moment
[05:09] <Garyu> i want to be able to play at double speed sfor example
[05:09] <larsrohdin> Im trying to set up both my displays to use 1280x1024, now i have 1280x1024 on one and 1024x768 on the other... but all I end up with is that the display(thats now on1024) screams out of range and doesn't work... any ideas?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Garyu,  mplayer, xine, vlc
[05:09] <topyli> bur[n] er: from a pygme session on my box?
[05:09] <steffen> burner: how do i start it?
[05:09] <Garyu> mplayer doesn't play dvd's here
[05:10] <NiLz> hi
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Garyu,  fix it then. :P
[05:10] <Garyu> crashes somehow
[05:10] <Garyu> :-\
[05:10] <robotgeek> Garyu: vlc
[05:10] <bur[n] er> steffen: from your menu... "internet"
[05:10] <NiLz> what package should I install to get "Fixed" font?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> i tend tio use xine, or vlc
[05:10] <Garyu> apt-get install vlc?
[05:10] <automat> anyone know about the 5.10 preview? is it fully functional?
[05:10] <moquillo> no ximian-connector evolution in 5.10?
[05:10] <robotgeek> Garyu: yeah
[05:10] <HappyFool> Garyu: mplayer doesn't play dvd's for me either, but both vlc and xine work
[05:10] <steffen> okey
[05:10] <steffen> thx
[05:10] <NiLz> and what font packages is it good to install, the fonts seems to be terrible
[05:10] <steffen> hehe
[05:10] <Garyu> thx
[05:10] <bur[n] er> moquillo: apt-get install evolution-exchange
[05:10] <topyli> moquillo: works ok here
[05:10] <Garyu> i'll take a look then
[05:11] <bur[n] er> topyli: does it actually work?  mine installs, but I can't connect to exchagne
[05:11] <chiisai> I am currently using linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 because Synaptic wanted to update that package. However, I can't boot Ubuntu anymore. I'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696  - and as you can see, there is no solution yet. Is it possible for me to just... downgrade somehow? I don't know what version I was using before.
[05:11] <bur[n] er> topyli: i lied about the screenshot, it's just a slow website
[05:11] <topyli> bur[n] er: you mean pygme? it does work
[05:11] <moquillo> thanks, evolution-exchange is already the newest version
[05:11] <bur[n] er> chiisai: old versions are still in your grub boot menu
[05:11] <chiisai> bur[n] er, no
[05:12] <steffen> fuck
[05:12] <chiisai> bur[n] er, it's not
[05:12] <robotgeek> chiisai: one sec!
[05:12] <bur[n] er> chiisai: did you remove them?
[05:12] <steffen> Port 6881 is blacklisted :(
[05:12] <steffen> how do i change port?
[05:12] <automat> anyone?  is the 5.10 preview workable? or should i stick with 5.04 until it's official?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> blacklisted by whom?
[05:12] <steffen> by bittorrent
[05:12] <steffen> or
[05:12] <chiisai> bur[n] er, no, they're just not there. Maybe stuff didn't upgrade properly?
[05:12] <steffen> by filemp3
[05:12] <steffen> bittorrent site
[05:13] <HappyFool> automat: i'd stick with 5.04, unless you desparately need a new feature
[05:13] <bur[n] er> chiisai: maybe... never seen that
[05:13] <robotgeek> chiisai: u on warty?
[05:13] <chiisai> robotgeek, no, hoary
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> steffen,  bittorrent clients  i thiought started at port 6881 and moved up from there. how are you determingi this port is blacklisted?
[05:13] <bur[n] er> steffen: no idea... I use azureus and you can change hte port of htat in the GUI config
[05:13] <charlesj> would i have to do a complete upgrade if i replace the "hoary" in my sources.list with "breezy" ?
[05:13] <automat> HappyFool: i was just curious about wifi support... and I wanted to get a look at the new gnome
[05:14] <robotgeek> chiisai: post date is 10-15-2004
[05:14] <bur[n] er> charlesj: you don't have to do anything... but it's recommended to go all or none
[05:14] <moquillo> then how do I setup the evolution connector ?
[05:14] <bur[n] er> moquillo: i'm having issues with it myself.. maybe topyli konws?
[05:14] <automat> but i don't really want to waste the time d/l and installing if it's not complete yet...i guess i could just update as it becomes official...maybe?
[05:14] <steffen> bur[n] er: and how do i download that one?
[05:14] <bur[n] er> !azureus
[05:14] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[05:14] <chiisai> robotgeek, ah... true. downgrading probably won't work, then...
[05:14] <shadikka> NTFS working (read-only) ^^
[05:15] <robotgeek> chiisai: put the install cd in, boot into rescue mode
[05:15] <bur[n] er> !tell steffen about repositories
[05:15] <charlesj> bur[n] er: sigh. all i want is one package
[05:15] <topyli> moquillo: you mean evolution-exchange? i don't use it
[05:15] <moquillo> thanks bur[n] er
[05:15] <GhostFreeman> I'm having problems loading GNOME
[05:15] <robotgeek> chiisai: this happened after updating yesterday, right?
[05:15] <bur[n] er> charlesj: go for it... for a long time, I just upgraded to breezy to just get rhythmbox ;)
[05:15] <bur[n] er> charlesj: don't be surprised if some things are funny though
[05:15] <GhostFreeman> I set it to shut down while saving the current setup and now it won't load up past smproxy
[05:15] <moquillo> topyli: yes, I mean evolution-exchange
[05:15] <steffen> bur[n] er: thx, will read that later
[05:15] <Gobbla> umm have someone won one single puck against tux in tuxpuck?
[05:15] <steffen>  i need to go now
[05:16] <steffen> thx for the help everyone :))
[05:16] <charlesj> bur[n] er: heh, like what?
[05:16] <topyli> moquillo: sorry, i don't even have it installed
[05:16] <Gobbla> he is fucking impossible..
[05:16] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, rhythmbox is also in hoary
[05:16] <bur[n] er> charlesj: no telling
[05:16] <HomestarRunner> #hrwiki
[05:16] <bur[n] er> deFrysk: not version .9
[05:16] <deFrysk> ow
[05:16] <robotgeek> Gobbla: patience and language!
[05:16] <chiisai> robotgeek, no, not yesterday. But I remember having upgraded linux-something. I didn't notice anything was wrong because I didn't reboot before now.
[05:16] <GhostFreeman> Anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:16] <moquillo> topyli: thanks
[05:16] <chiisai> robotgeek, I'm running the warty livecd right now... can I use that?
[05:16] <Gobbla> open-source and freedom of speech!
[05:16] <deFrysk> bmp is nice yes
[05:17] <charlesj> bur[n] er: nobody uses xmms anymore?
[05:17] <bur[n] er> bmp with a docklet is nicer :)
[05:17] <bur[n] er> xmms is gtk1... just kinda doesn't fit
[05:17] <robotgeek> chiisai: is your / partition mounted?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> i use xmms all the time
[05:17] <charlesj> bur[n] er: true
[05:17] <robotgeek> xmms sucks!
[05:17] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes
[05:17] <bur[n] er> xmms doesn't "suck"
[05:18] <deFrysk> xmms sucks ? why ?
[05:18] <bur[n] er> it's still most popular by a long shot
[05:18] <chiisai> Use beep-media-player instead of xmms
[05:18] <robotgeek> can u find out what version of the kernel are u using
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> it plays fine for me..
[05:18] <robotgeek> !xmms
[05:18] <ubotu> I heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[05:18] <deFrysk> me too
[05:18] <deFrysk> great app
[05:18] <robotgeek> i used xmms for years, till it started hanging and all!
[05:18] <bur[n] er> uses winamp skins... gotta love it :)
[05:18] <robotgeek> i use bmp now
[05:18] <charlesj> i still use xmms
[05:18] <chiisai> robotgeek, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 ...
[05:19] <robotgeek> okay...
[05:19] <GhostFreeman> Anyone know how to fix a Gnome session that won't boot all the way
[05:19] <deFrysk> who cares what whoever uses
[05:19] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: what do you mean by "all the way" ?
[05:19] <GhostFreeman> it only loads smproxy and leaves me hanging
[05:19] <shadikka> I just began to love Amarok, now that I got it to work well ^_^
[05:19] <deFrysk> amarok is a resource hog
[05:20] <robotgeek> chiisai: can u cd to /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:20] <GhostFreeman> I think its because I told Gnome to save my last session
[05:21] <GhostFreeman> I'm running Failsafe now, and it booted up fine
[05:21] <Garyu> hrm, vlc crashes on opening the dvd
[05:21] <Garyu> the dvd is region free, it tries to crack it with libcss
[05:21] <bur[n] er> amarok isn't a resource hog when using kde
[05:21] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes, and I found these: linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.10-5_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb
[05:21] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: save the session from failsafe?
[05:21] <GhostFreeman> tried that, the same
[05:22] <bur[n] er> although qt 4 is supposedly a free-er cross platform now so we'll see
[05:22] <robotgeek> chiisai: basically, we now need a chrooted terminal
[05:22] <GhostFreeman> Where would Gnome hold the information on startup services like smproxy
[05:22] <bur[n] er> the themes are just ugly ;)
[05:22] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: got bum?  boot up manager?
[05:22] <chiisai> robotgeek, already in one
[05:22] <GhostFreeman> is that a LiveCD utility or a package
[05:23] <bur[n] er> package
[05:23] <flodine> is there a program for ubuntu to monitor my cpu temp%
[05:23] <bur[n] er> it's in breezy for sure... I think I used it in hoary though too
[05:23] <chiisai> flodine, lmsensors
[05:23] <robotgeek> chiisai: you must also have a linux-image package?
[05:23] <GhostFreeman> Is it in the Hoary repository
[05:23] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: check ;)
[05:23] <chiisai> flodine, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A//www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D2780&ei=cPoiQ8yJG5SQiALdhsmAAw
[05:23] <Faust> program for temp?  there are txt files in proc for that
[05:24] <chiisai> robotgeek, oh.. yeah, I got linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb (the one installed already)
[05:24] <robotgeek> chiisai: do a sudo dpkg -i linux-image...deb
[05:25] <GhostFreeman> I don't see bum in repo
[05:25] <bur[n] er> w00t... new xfmedia was just put in breezy :)  (i love rss readers)
[05:25] <HappyFool> !bum
[05:25] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[05:25] <GhostFreeman> would bum let me edit the Gnome startup services
[05:26] <ninjafish> quick question, can a qt app work in Gnome?
[05:26] <deFrysk> yup
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: there's also a "services" thing in gnome
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: got gnome-system-tools ?
[05:26] <bur[n] er> ninjafish: sure
[05:26] <bur[n] er> ninjafish: slower... as it has to load qt libs, but it works nonetheless
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> Sessions, right?
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> I just went through that as well
[05:26] <chiisai> robotgeek, http://80.202.140.8/ubuntu1.txt
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: nope... services
[05:26] <HappyFool> GhostFreeman: i'm not sure what you mean by gnome startup services; afaik, bum let's you change the general (system) services
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> ok
[05:27] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: apt-get install gnome-system-tools
[05:27] <ninjafish> excellent, I have qtlibs etc. thanks
[05:28] <Garyu> hrm, gxine sucks
[05:28] <Garyu> is that the right xine player?
[05:28] <Garyu> or should I use another one?
[05:28] <bur[n] er> Garyu: just use xine-ui
[05:28] <Garyu> okay
[05:28] <bur[n] er> Garyu: gxine is the gtk frontend for xine
[05:29] <Garyu> there are a dozen xine packages, quite confusing
[05:29] <pinko> I've got embedded gxine working in opera...
[05:29] <bur[n] er> Garyu: just read, try, play, etc
[05:29] <pinko> but I haven't had any luck with anything else
[05:29] <shadikka> Is there a way to manually force a refresh rate? (a rate I know to work...)
[05:29] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let a program start at boot time ?
[05:29] <Garyu> bur[n] er: yeah, that's what I've been doing
[05:30] <vanberge> morning #ubuntu
[05:30] <Garyu> svizzero: System > Preferences > Sessions
[05:30] <Garyu> then use the Tab "Startup Programs"
[05:30] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.4
[05:30] <GhostFreeman> I have system tools, where do I go now?
[05:30] <pel> checked with my ISP... ubuntu.com seemes to be the problem. right now I can't reach ubuntu.com even with firefox - no wonder apt-get update fails. Can anybody confirm please?`Otherwise I have to check with my ISP again
[05:30] <svizzero> Garyu, I need to start a program before xorg
[05:30] <sordic> can i install wxpython2.6 on hoary ?
[05:30] <topyli> someone please go to http://mtv3.fi with firefox and see if it crashes
[05:30] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-34.4' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:30] <thrush_2> shadikka, have you set vertical and horizontal refresh yet?
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek: linux-image-2.6.10-386 maybe?
[05:31] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.5-386
[05:31] <shadikka> thrush_2, err, nope? ^^;
[05:31] <alien8> pel: quite often this is due to your ISP fscking with MTU - lower yours from 1500 progressively IMHO ICBW IANAL
[05:31] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.4-386
[05:31] <bz0b> can someone help me get my wifi card to work, except for the fact its a usb wifi card
[05:31] <vanberge> pel, works ok for me
[05:31] <thrush_2> shadikka, have manual for your monitor?
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-34.4-386' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:31] <vanberge> i cannot get sourceforge to open...
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-386' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:31] <shadikka> thrush_2, well, at least not quickly handy. Maybe from the net.
[05:31] <vanberge> just shows as a blank page
[05:32] <bz0b> sourceforge is down!
[05:32] <bz0b> for maintenence
[05:32] <vanberge> bz0b, seriuosly?
[05:32] <bosshoff> hey guys, I really want to get a bunch of little tux-replace-windows key stickers so I can pass them out in my LUG; anyone know where I can get a bunch for pretty cheap?
[05:32] <thrush_2> shadikka, you want horz and vert settings from the manual before you continue
[05:32] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let a program start at boot time ?
[05:32] <HappyFool> pel: i'm downloading stuff from security.ubuntu.com right now; www.ubuntu.com is working too
[05:32] <bz0b> vanberge, yeah, i hacked the living daylight out of it ;-)
[05:32] <shadikka> thrush, ok
[05:32] <HappyFool> svizzero: you can add a call to it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:32] <pel> alien8: thanks - but it did work with several identical boxes earlier today. right now ubunto.com seems to be down :-(
[05:33] <svizzero> HappyFool, thx
[05:33] <vanberge> bz0b, nice work  ;-)
[05:33] <robotgeek> chiisai:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[05:33] <flodine> chiisai you there
[05:34] <chiisai> ii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-34.4    Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on 386
[05:34] <h17m4n> Help: PLEASE tell me how to check the MD5 of a file. I know it can't be that hard and I really need it.
[05:34] <chiisai> ii  linux-image-38 2.6.10-7       Linux kernel image on 386.
[05:34] <chiisai> flodine, yes ..
[05:34] <Garyu> thanks bur[n] er, I got xine now :)
[05:34] <bz0b> vanberge, yeah, everyone hates me now ;-)
[05:34] <Garyu> at least has some more possibilities than the other ones
[05:34] <chiisai> h17m4n, md5sum <file>
[05:34] <flodine> i cant start this program
[05:34] <HappyFool> h17m4n: md5sum filename ?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> Garyu: good luck with it
[05:34] <chiisai> flodine, what program?
[05:34] <vanberge> quick poll of #ubuntu -  which window manager do you use??
[05:34] <bur[n] er> xfce
[05:34] <flodine> im sensor
[05:34] <robotgeek> openbox + gnome
[05:34] <h17m4n> Thanks. Let me check it
[05:34] <shadikka> Gnome
[05:35] <Butcherbird_Jr> fluxbox
[05:35] <bur[n] er> er... technically xfwm4... and everyone who says gnome... it's actually metacity
[05:35] <chiisai> flodine, dunno, read the thread
[05:35] <pel> HappyFool: maybe a router of my ISP runs wild... other sites work perfectly, internal net is fast and stable - just www.ubuntu.com refuses to anwer...
[05:36] <bur[n] er> pel: it's owned by MS i bet ;)
[05:36] <HappyFool> pel: all i can say is it's working from here
[05:36] <bur[n] er> anyone live in Africa that wants to buy an HP with Ubuntu for me and ship it? :)
[05:37] <robotgeek> chiisai: basically, u need to find out what version of linux-image u gotta install, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure it
[05:37] <chiisai> robotgeek, ...so I don't know. I apparently got linux-image-2.6.10-34.4 and linux-image-386 (2.6.10-7)
[05:37] <fblade> hey is there any good mmorpgs out for linux other then planeshift and the world of mana?
[05:37] <test34> where does ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling gets activated from ? I need to disable it
[05:38] <robotgeek> chiisai: do a apt-cache search linux-image
[05:38] <pel> bur[n] er: not possible: if they were owned by MS it would not have worked erlier today either :-)
[05:38] <fblade> hey is there any good mmorpgs out for linux other then planeshift and the world of mana?
[05:38] <chiisai> linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[05:39] <NightBird> hey, if apt-get update doesn't like the online sources, what should I do?
[05:39] <bur[n] er> pel: so true ;)
[05:39] <chiisai> robotgeek, http://80.202.140.8/ubuntu2.txt
[05:39] <charlesj> what is a good firewall with a nice UI ?
[05:39] <HappyFool> !firewall
[05:39] <ubotu> I guess firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[05:39] <bur[n] er> NightBird: change your sources.list
[05:39] <bz0b> yay i just won my new car on ebay!
[05:39] <shadikka> :)
[05:39] <thrush_2> fblade, double check the entries in sources.list more than likely a typo
[05:40] <sordic> NightBird, you can talk with him, but you can change the sources. look: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:40] <charlesj> thanks
[05:40] <robotgeek> chiisai: reboot?
[05:40] <chiisai> robotgeek, ...right.
[05:40] <NightBird> bur[n] er, I've tried several times..
[05:40] <shadikka> robotgeek, nice a bot there...
[05:40] <NightBird> the default ones don't work right
[05:40] <shinu> anyone here tried to run quake3 icculus?
[05:40] <HappyFool> NightBird: put your sources.list up on the pastebin (i.e., not here)
[05:41] <_lui_> anybody knows why gkrellm doesn't recognize my mb temp sensors
[05:41] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[05:41] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:41] <bz0b> shinu, i have ran quake3 on cedega!
[05:41] <shinu> bz0b: im trying to compile from source :)
[05:41] <bz0b> shinu, ah, i see
[05:42] <GhostFreeman> Still won't load past smproxy
[05:42] <shinu> and it just gets stuck with some error...
[05:42] <_lui_> anybody knows why gkrellm doesn't recognize my mb temp sensors
[05:42] <NightBird> here is the problem though, I can't open this in myth(since s-video out doesn't work properly), so I'll do a visual copy and paste... :-\
[05:42] <bz0b> http://images.auction123.com/A123IH/43e064b4-20cf-4b83-a13a-f8bf54ef04e8/KMHHN65F94U121558/01/webimage001l.jpg for anyone who is interested
[05:42] <GhostFreeman> where are the logs for startup kept, that may help me out
[05:42] <shadikka> What was the packet for Windows core fonts?
[05:42] <poypoy> Hey, I get "chgrp: changing group of `/data': Operation not permitted" when trying to sudo chgrp meez /data, I don't understand what would be preventing this when I'm sudo'ing it... :\
[05:42] <sordic> shadikka, msttcorefonts
[05:42] <shadikka> sordic, thanks ^
[05:42] <_lui_> how I use the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <_lui_> how do se the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <paulw> anyone know, what is the best html editor for linux?
[05:43] <HappyFool> GhostFreeman: /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg (last one is for kernel messages)
[05:43] <_lui_> how do I use the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <shadikka> *^^, never can adapt to the idea of this ^-character thingy (press twice for one)
[05:43] <sordic>  paulw NVU
[05:43] <paulw> sordic, thx
[05:44] <gbhat> anyone know how to get usplash to display while booting up?
[05:44] <pinko> I'm beginning to look at html editors.  bluefish seems to require gnome :P
[05:44] <gbhat> I am using Breezy with latest updates and the k7 kernel
[05:44] <GhostFreeman> which one of the three would log anything related to Gnome startup
[05:44] <shadikka> "$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" - "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. (etc.)" ... o_O?
[05:44] <gbhat> shadikka, enabled all repositories?
[05:45] <shadikka> gbhat, universe and multiverse at least. I'll check.
[05:45] <HappyFool> !info msttcorefonts
[05:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[05:45] <shadikka> hm
[05:45] <gbhat> !info usplash
[05:45] <sordic> shadikka, look: www.ubuntuguide.org "add extra repositories"
[05:45] <paulw> shadikka, refer to this page, it'll help you set up the right repositories and has a good how to for jre and others.
[05:46] <shadikka> Okay.
[05:46] <NightBird> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2063
[05:46] <paulw> shadikka, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:46] <gbhat> anyone help me with usplash?
[05:46] <bz0b> !yummy
[05:46] <ubotu> bz0b: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:46] <NightBird> I had to edit out some lines..
[05:46] <NightBird> because either I couldn't see it all, or because they were commented out anyways
[05:46] <paulw> is there a way to install breezy now overtop of hoary?
[05:47] <HappyFool> NightBird: you need main and restricted too
[05:47] <paulw> or do we wait for the officail release?
[05:47] <Mestapheles> upgrade
[05:47] <HappyFool> !tell nightbird about repos
[05:47] <robotgeek_away> !repos
[05:47] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:47] <HappyFool> NightBird: the second link in what ubotu has sent you has an example 'sources.list' file which you can use
[05:47] <paulw> Mestapheles, using the cd iso? or apt-get?
[05:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can someone tell me if Macromedia Flash Player for Linux will work with the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Mestapheles> apt-get I'm sure
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> hi. does anyone know where I can download ubuntu official backgrounds?
[05:48] <robotgeek_away> Sonny_Wertzik: probably not
[05:48] <Mestapheles> you'd have to change the repos in sources.list
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> i really don't like the colors of the one that comes with breezy
[05:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok thanx
[05:48] <HappyFool> ubuntuuuu: you can install the 'ubuntu-calendar' package, though that hasn't been updated in ages
[05:48] <robotgeek_away> !info ubuntu-artwork
[05:48] <ubotu> ubuntu-artwork: (Ubuntu themes and artwork), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2.24-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4315 kB, Installed size: 6880 kB
[05:48] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntuuuu: look in /usr/share/backgrouds  or /usr/share/wallpaper(s)
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> nalioth_zZz, thks, i'll take a look
[05:49] <robotgeek_away> nalioth_zZz: morning
[05:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> is there something else that will work as a flash plugin for firefox?
[05:49] <ubuntuuuu> it only has 2 images, nothing more
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> aren't there any blue backgrounds? :|
[05:50] <Madeye> hi, guys, I have upgraded to breezy, but it's not detecting my keyboard, so Xorg wont run. now my question is, how to solve it, if not How to go back to hoary ?
[05:50] <ScislaC> Is it possible to dist-upgrade to AMD64?
[05:50] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntuuuu: then do as robotgeek suggested with "ubuntu-artwork"
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> i'll give it a try
[05:50] <brenner> ubuntuuuu: haven't you heard? ubuntu's the brown distro
[05:50] <nalioth_zZz> Madeye: you wait for the updated pkg to come down
[05:50] <shadikka> It still says the same about no installation candidate for msttcorefonts.
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> jeje, i prefer the blue
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> :-)
[05:51] <nalioth_zZz> Madeye: goin back to hoary involves a complete reinstall
[05:51] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: there apparently is a problem with the ubuntu update in kernel ( linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 )
[05:51] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: as i've been tellin folks "breezy is broken"
[05:51] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: 2.6.10 is breezy?
[05:53] <HappyFool> nope. how is it broken?
[05:53] <HappyFool> (he said nervously, watching the linux-image update download)
[05:53] <Madeye> HappyFool xorg related problems
[05:53] <GhostFreeman> What files dictate what sessions Gnome runs on startup
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> does ubuntu have something have services ??? red-hat-config-services ...
[05:53] <HappyFool> sorry, i meant how is the linux-image update broken
[05:53] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: i have has 2 people's system refusing to boot. One i was able to help solve, the other i am still awaiting response
[05:53] <GhostFreeman> erm, processes
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> i need to change which are the services loaded at the boot time
[05:53] <NightBird> HappyFool, I'm getting a bunch of 302 Moved errors..
[05:53] <brenner> wickedpuppy: install rcconf
[05:53] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: 2.6.12
[05:53] <robotgeek> HappyFool: the PC apparently refuses to boot
[05:53] <HappyFool> robotgeek: suboptimal
[05:53] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: so that would be a hoary problem
[05:53] <robotgeek> HappyFool: ???
[05:53] <HappyFool> NightBird: on what URL, e.g. ?
[05:53] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: correct
[05:53] <NightBird> all of them
[05:54] <HappyFool> robotgeek: i.e., that's bad ;). sorry, silly joke
[05:54] <NightBird> and I already double checked them for being copied properly
[05:54] <Madeye> is there anyway to push my system to detect my keyboard? nalioth_zZz
[05:54] <HappyFool> NightBird: from the 'example' sources.list, you mean?
[05:54] <NightBird> yes
[05:54] <HappyFool> NightBird: stand-by
[05:54] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: filing a bug report without any additional info is useless :(
[05:54] <NightBird> should I try the other ip that is given to me? 82.211.81.182 80 is what it says
[05:56] <ubuntuuuu> aren't there packages for beagle?
[05:56] <HappyFool> NightBird: i'm browsing archive.ubuntu.com fine; let me try the Release and Packages.gz files
[05:56] <ekimus> hi, is the server install a special set of packages (server stuff preselected) or just a subset of normal install without X?
[05:56] <NightBird> ok
[05:56] <shadikka> I have a problem with apt-getting msttcorefonts and I do have all the repositories set (and apt-get update'd) now... :/
[05:56] <shadikka> ("no installation candidates for package")
[05:57] <HappyFool> NightBird: can you browse this url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release in firefox?
[05:57] <robotgeek> did i miss anything, my net went down suddenly?
[05:57] <NightBird> HappyFool, I'm unable to bring up graphics mode
[05:58] <HappyFool> NightBird: hmm
[05:58] <HappyFool> NightBird: ok, try   wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release
[05:58] <NightBird> gah
[05:58] <NightBird> I know what the problem is...
[05:58] <NightBird> ugh
[05:58] <NightBird> how to fix it...
[05:58] <juan4ever> hi
[05:59] <HappyFool> http proxy?
[05:59] <robotgeek> anyways, i am off to bed now.
[05:59] <NightBird> the problem is, is that there is a thing on my schools network that filters out certain sites... and you have to log in to be able to go to websites...
[05:59] <NightBird> so kind of
[05:59] <NightBird> ok... I didn't want to do it, but I'm going to have too...
[06:00] <HappyFool> NightBird: you can maybe use the http_proxy variable to specify a web-proxy to use; you may even be able to add a username password to the url (I can't remember the syntax)
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> hi
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> what does this mean?
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> 17:56:31.934543 PPPoE  [ses 0xaa0]  [length 9 (67 extra bytes)]  IP truncated-ip - 189 bytes missing! sinet.ad.jp.domain > infinity.unixrulz.net.34013:  6766*- 1/4/6 (235
[06:00] <HappyFool> NightBird: if it's a windows-only proxy, you can install ntlmaps (download the .deb, and use dpkg to install it)
[06:00] <sylvan> hmm.. I'm trying to write an iso to a disk, but it keeps saying "insert blank disc" even though there is a blank disc in there...
[06:00] <NightBird> HappyFool, it's not what I would call a proxy really..
[06:00] <sylvan> ideas?
[06:00] <sylvan> I'm using the "right-click, write to CD" program
[06:00] <NightBird> I'll bbiab...
[06:00] <environ> hi! im using the preview breezy release. i installed the nvidia drivers, they seem to work, too, but glxgears is very slow, do you know why?
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> sylvan: Do you have two CD/DVD drives?
[06:01] <sylvan> yes
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> sylvan: It's probably picking the wrong one.
[06:01] <juan4ever> sorry, can anybodu helpme?
[06:01] <endy_x> environ, mine are too but enemy territory and other GL apps are fine :S
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> I always use k3b for burning, so I don't know about the right-click-to-burn thing.
[06:01] <sylvan> only one of them is a burner, and that's the only option in the drop-down
[06:02] <juan4ever> i cant install my sound blaster live 24bits
[06:02] <endy_x> environ, also the gears screensaver is fine, its a bug i guess
[06:02] <environ> ok nice maybe its an refresh rate thingy ^^, how new are the drivers ?
[06:02] <endy_x> environ, mine are fine :)
[06:04] <bosshoff> hey guys, I really want to get a bunch of little tux-replace-windows key stickers so I can pass them out in my LUG; anyone know where I can get a bunch for pretty cheap?
[06:05] <juan4ever> can someone helpme?
[06:05] <endy_x> bosshoff, I don't know but you could buy them a bunch of these if you have some spare cash http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/cymotion-line/cymotion-line_master_linux.htm
[06:05] <sylvan> are there any other cd-burner programs that are easy-to-use and good?
[06:06] <shadikka> Now this is getting even better :S gstreamer0.8-lame0 won't install... ("no installation candidate")
[06:06] <juan4ever> please, i cant install drivers for my sound blaster 24 bits
[06:06] <endy_x> sylvan, last ime i used gnome-baker it was good :)
[06:06] <HappyFool> shadikka: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[06:06] <sylvan> endy_x, thanks
[06:06] <shadikka> HappyFool, ok
[06:06] <endy_x> sylvan, and it's a gui if thats what you want
[06:06] <brenner> juan4ever: search the wiki & forum...there's bound to be a subject on sound blaster install
[06:06] <HappyFool> or look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 for a sample sources.list
[06:07] <sylvan> endy_x, yeah I prefer a GUI
[06:07] <juan4ever> brenner: i already do that, i have followed a lot of guides
[06:07] <B|ueMat> Im having problems with I think the mplayer plugin for firefox, when I try to view a quicktime streaming movie, it starts loading but freezes at more less 25%, anyone else come across this issue?
[06:07] <nalioth> bluesceada: d/l the movie directly
[06:08] <sylvan> dammit! gnome baker also complains that there isn't a blank cd in the cd writer when I know for a fact that there is!
[06:08] <endy_x> sylvan, have you ejected the cd and reloaded it?
[06:09] <sylvan> ah sorry, no it didn't.. it just gave me a popup telling me to insert a blank cd, I assumed it wouldn't pop up since there already was a blank cd in...
[06:09] <sylvan> cliking ok and it started burning
[06:09] <shadikka> HappyFool, ok, I used that sample (replacing the "hoary" with "breezy" :)
[06:09] <shadikka> And thanks, it works now ^_^
[06:10] <HappyFool> shadikka: good stuff
[06:10] <shadikka> indeed.
[06:10] <nalioth> bluemat d/l the movie directly
[06:10] <sylvan> oay, so I'm burning the new preview release... Is it possible to just upgrade to the new ubuntu so I won't have to reinstall all my apps?
[06:10] <B|ueMat> nalioth, i want to stream from apple trailers, I shouldnt really have to?
[06:11] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt detect my second hard drive what can I do?
[06:11] <nalioth> sylvan: *nix is designed to never need "reinstalling".  upgrading is very convenient using apt-get
[06:11] <B|ueMat> leopold, Are you sure its an ubuntu issue and not a BIOS issue?
[06:11] <sylvan> nalioth, so what do I need to do to upgrade ubuntu to the new breezy preview?
[06:12] <sylvan> I'm burning the installation CD now
[06:12] <shadikka> apt-get update ubuntu-core? (or do I remember quite my own wonders now?)
[06:12] <leopold> BlueMat yes i am sure cause its os in windows and bootable
[06:12] <pinucset> what is update ubuntu-core?..
[06:12] <ugo> does anyone know how to permanently enable lo on ubuntu
[06:12] <shadikka> No idea. ^.^ Just remembered something like that (eeeeh, so don't count on it)
[06:12] <nalioth> sylvan: i dont recommend updating at this time but if you must
[06:13] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt detect my second hard drive what can I do?
[06:13] <nalioth> !tell sylvan about upgrade2breezy
[06:13] <ugo> mine always goes down when i reboot
[06:13] <ugo> !tell ugo about openafs
[06:13] <ubuntuuuu> as anyone manage to integrate beagle in gnome like spotlight in mac os x? opensuse 10.x has something similiar and it is very useful
[06:13] <aru> !tell aru about upgrade2breezy
[06:13] <sylvan> nalioth, thanks
[06:14] <ugo> also does anyone know about configuring openafs on hoary?
[06:14] <B|ueMat> leopold, yeah but i had a similar problem, windows could see the disk, but funnilyenough the bios wasnt detecting it
[06:14] <oolon> ugo it should be in /etc/network/interfacrs
[06:14] <ugo> id really appreciate the help
[06:14] <pedrobest> could anyone help me with a sudo/su issue in my kubuntu install?
[06:14] <oolon> *** /etc/network/interfaces
[06:14] <B|ueMat> nalioth, did you see my reply..^^^
[06:14] <leopold> BueMat its 100% not a bios prob...bios detects it
[06:14] <B|ueMat> nalioth, i want to stream from apple trailers, I shouldnt really have to?
[06:14] <sylvan> is the breezy preview very unstable or what?
[06:14] <paulw> pedrobest, whare are you stuck at?
[06:15] <oolon> pedrobest, whats the prob
[06:15] <pedrobest> i cant seem to make sudo work
[06:15] <NB_Ubuntu> ok... I updated, I installed nvtv, and now I want to know what I need to do to actually get it working...
[06:15] <brenner> pedrobest: how so?
[06:15] <shadikka> Yeeeeeesh~, now I can play mp3s ^^ ->
[06:15] <brenner> pedrobest: you using *your* password?
[06:15] <paulw> pedrobest, sudo should work fine if you only have one user account because it's automatically in the sudoers file
[06:15] <pedrobest> sudo and then anything in konsole just replys an error
[06:16] <oolon> pedrobest, you need to use the root password
[06:16] <paulw> pedrobest, however, if you're used to su, it doesn't work
[06:16] <brenner> pedrobest: what error?
[06:16] <pedrobest> its on a difference pc in a differnet room so im just gonna go an remember the error
[06:17] <SanderD> Hi. Can I easily switch from amd64 to i386/686, or should I reinstall Ubuntu then?
[06:17] <SanderD> (I've got an Athlon64, but I want to use i386 applications.)
[06:17] <brenner> SanderD: from what i've heard, easier to reinsatll
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> SanderD: If you can, just find i386 versions.
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> Otherwise, create an i386 chroot.
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> SanderD: If you can, just find amd64 versions, I mean.
[06:18] <nalioth> B|ueMat: you have a very tricky nick to type
[06:18] <nalioth> B|ueMat: the newer apple quicktime codecs are not well viewed in linux
[06:18] <SanderD> paulproteus|lapt: Will an i386 chroot work as well as an i386 system (with games, for example)? Does having amd64 have any advantages?
[06:18] <poypoy> Are there any good X newsreaders (downloaders) for gnome? (must be able to read .nbz's
[06:19] <NightBird> haha!
[06:19] <NightBird> a winner is I!
[06:19] <maskuri> haloo
[06:19] <NightBird> nvtv is setup, and it is now displaying to the tv
[06:19] <evelina> haha :P
[06:20] <delltony> morning: anyone here know how to get mplayer and the mozilla-mplayer installed on breezy?
[06:20] <NightBird> ....
[06:20] <pedrobest> i try sudo passwd to set root password - is that right?
[06:20] <pedrobest> then it comes back with an error about not being able to lookup gethostbyname() and it cant find a public/pickup dir
[06:20] <DavidSWe> Is there anyone that has a Toshiba laptop that can tell me how to get the battery monitor working and some powersaving functions?
[06:20] <GhostFreeman> j #interdictor-politics
[06:20] <GhostFreeman> oops
[06:20] <nalioth> poypoy: use synaptic to search "pkg names and contents" for nzb
[06:21] <nalioth> poypoy: otw, search sourceforge.net
[06:21] <maskuri> haloo
[06:21] <NightBird> ok... now it's color, but it's all off..
[06:23] <ugo> openafs on ubuntu anyone?
[06:23] <maskuri> cah ngendi
[06:23] <ugo> does anyone have experience installing it?
[06:23] <ugo> i get this error when i try to start the client
[06:24] <Hoxzer> is it possible to import opera bookmarks to mozzilla?
[06:24] <ugo> afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs
[06:24] <ugo> i have all the files set up correctly i believe
[06:24] <Gobbla> umm i did killall ess to be able to play a game... but now i cant listen to music... what can I do about that except rebooting?
[06:24] <enyc> gobb: yes, run 'esd' again ;p
[06:24] <enyc> gobb: it will beep, and esd will be back aain
[06:25] <enyc> gobb: or rather, "esd&" to run esd in the background
[06:25] <pedrobest> brenner: i try sudo passwd to set root password - is that right?
[06:25] <pedrobest> then it comes back with an error about not being able to lookup gethostbyname() and it cant find a public/pickup dir
[06:25] <enyc> gobb: also, you can  install 'esound-clients' and  run the game through "esddsp" which will allow you to play the game through esd sound without needing to killall esd
[06:25] <Gobbla> jocke@h148n1fls32o887:~$ /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:26] <thrush_2> pedro sudo su then type passwd- but not a good idea
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> are you sure the game is completely dead?
[06:26] <zenrox> pedrobest, try sudo -s
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> any leftover processes?
[06:26] <Gobbla> yeah
[06:26] <pedrobest> sudo -s does what
[06:26] <h17m4n> what's a good dvd burning app? I need to burn a distro's iso
[06:26] <Gobbla> or let me check to be absolutely sure
[06:26] <zenrox> pedrobest, gives you a root concole
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> yeh
[06:26] <enyc> gobb: interesting computer name -- h148n1fls32o887
[06:27] <h17m4n> Hey Gobbla.... did you read that thread I sent u
[06:27] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: yeah it iss
[06:27] <Gobbla> *is
[06:27] <Gobbla> h17m4n: about what?
[06:27] <digitalfox|sleep> lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[06:27] <Gobbla> ive fixed the gfxcard now
[06:27] <ugo> bah...come on guys...this is kinda painful...
[06:27] <Gobbla> it lags some though..
[06:27] <ugo> id really appreciate the help
[06:27] <h17m4n> nice
[06:27] <Seveas-SFD> digitalfox|sleep, lsof /dev/dsp (works too :)
[06:27] <h17m4n> Gobbla: About the latest ati drivers
[06:27] <digitalfox|sleep> didn't know that
[06:27] <brenner> ugo: searched the forum?
[06:28] <digitalfox|sleep> I thuoght fuser did that
[06:28] <Gobbla> nope i didnt, got the link?
[06:28] <h17m4n> Hold on
[06:28] <Gobbla> or maybe i did, but i can check again if that is :)
[06:28] <Gobbla> ive read so many i dunno if you gave me one too :)
[06:28] <B|ueMat> nalioth, I know what you mean, but I had no issues with MPlayer and QT when I was running Fedora..
[06:28] <jennifer> huh?
[06:28] <jennifer> hello?
[06:29] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: what does that do?
[06:29] <digitalfox|sleep> that tells you if it's being used and by what
[06:29] <Gobbla> its just blank
[06:29] <Gobbla> should i cancel it?
[06:29] <jennifer> no
[06:29] <evelina> I dont get how I can use all canals
[06:29] <katox> hi
[06:29] <jennifer> hi
[06:29] <lemur> wat up, home dog
[06:29] <jennifer> nothin
[06:29] <jennifer> really
[06:29] <jennifer> how are you
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: now it showed me
[06:30] <jennifer> can you people read this?
[06:30] <evelina> haha are somebody from sweden?
[06:30] <lemur> I'm not that great, but don't mind
[06:30] <Gobbla> evelina: yeah
[06:30] <jennifer> oh ok
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: but i cant end the process..
[06:30] <jennifer> so who is this?
[06:30] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> does something in there look like a PID?
[06:30] <pedrobest> im sure my / should contain a puplic directory
[06:30] <lemur> I know what distro I'M switching to..
[06:30] <nalioth> B|ueMat: you have me at an advantage. i run ppc and cant watch that stuff in the first place
[06:30] <jennifer> what are ou guys talkin about
[06:30] <digitalfox|sleep> what is the process's name?
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: tuxpuck   10671      jocke    5w      CHR       14,3               8402 /dev/dsp
[06:30] <Gobbla> cant end it though
[06:31] <digitalfox|sleep> kill -9 10671
[06:31] <Gobbla> through the system overviewer or what its called in english..
[06:31] <brenner> lemur: you _do_ know that ahem, most chicks really aren't?
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, this is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a general chat channel
[06:31] <shadikka> Oookay, now I do have the sync rates for my monitor; so can someone tell me how to force a sync rate for the screen? ^.^
[06:31] <digitalfox|sleep> killall -9 tuxpuck would work too
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> shadikka, set it in  xorg.conf
[06:31] <evelina> okej..
[06:31] <paulw> how do i get crossover menu's to show up in gnome?
[06:31] <Gobbla> what does -9 do?
[06:31] <shadikka> Seveas, thanks.
[06:31] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep:
[06:31] <jennifer> does anyone have aim?
[06:31] <nalioth> Seveas-SFD: SFD?
[06:31] <Gobbla> jennifer: yeah
[06:31] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Here's one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496&highlight=latest+ati - And another: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=latest+ati
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> nalioth, software freedom day
[06:31] <jennifer> oh what is your sn
[06:31] <Gobbla> jennifer: sorry no
[06:32] <Gobbla> saw wrong
[06:32] <nalioth> Seveas-SFD: ah, well happy birthday
[06:32] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, we don't do that in here
[06:32] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Make sure you replace the driver version there for the latest on ATI's site
[06:32] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, this is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a general chat channel
[06:32] <evelina> Is this like.. a chat?
[06:32] <jennifer> dont do what
[06:32] <paulw> jennifer, auso apt-get install gaim
[06:32] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: what does -9 do?
[06:32] <nalioth> jennifer: this is the ubuntu support channel, if you'd like to yak, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <paulw> jennifer, err, that's sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:32] <Gobbla> h17m4n: aight
[06:32] <Gobbla> thx
[06:32] <jennifer> ok well im leaving
[06:32] <jennifer> this is stupid
[06:32] <jennifer> cya
[06:32] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> forces kill
[06:32] <Gobbla> :D
[06:32] <shadikka> Where do those come from o.O :D
[06:33] <digitalfox|sleep> -9 is "die NOW"
[06:33] <nalioth> jennifer: install ubuntu and come back
[06:33] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: ok
[06:33] <paulw> stupid is as stupid does
[06:33] <jennifer> i already have it
[06:33] <jennifer> duh
[06:33] <Gobbla> now it works digitalfox|sleep thanks alot..
[06:33] <evelina> Men gah fattar ju fan ingenting buh bye suckerz
[06:33] <digitalfox> Gobbla> anytime
[06:33] <Gobbla> :)
[06:33] <digitalfox> Gobbla> you should probably report a bug to the tuxpuck team
[06:33] <Seveas-SFD> evelina, this is a support channel, not for general chatter
[06:34] <Gobbla> okay
[06:34] <lemur> Seveas-SFD: Where is the general channel for ubuntu?
[06:34] <shadikka> Err, where is xorg.conf? *^^''*
[06:34] <Gobbla> heh, girls, what can ya say :D
[06:34] <kurt> shadikka, : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <paulw> shadikka, /etc/X11/
[06:34] <Seveas-SFD> lemur, this is the channe; for #ubuntu
[06:34] <shadikka> Thanks ^^
[06:34] <h17m4n> Question: What's a good DVD iso burning utility? K3b didn't even get past 0% on my first try.
[06:34] <paulw> h17m4n, nerolinux
[06:34] <brenner> lemur: /topic
[06:34] <Seveas-SFD> if you want to have a general chatter, find another channel (#ubuntu-offtopic may work)
[06:35] <lemur> Well, what I mean is, not *everything* must be support-related, right?
[06:35] <Zacar> hey i was wondering, i've just installed Ubuntu and running it now, I have two 5 gig partitions and one 70 gig partition, could someone tell me how i could install or where i could read up how to install windows xp onto one of those 5 gig partitions?
[06:35] <Seveas-SFD> lemur, support, discussion...
[06:35] <nalioth> lemur: if you want to yak about asl and all that rot, it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <h17m4n> paulw: could I apt-get it or download a package?
[06:35] <samu2> i got an error when trying to update the kernel through the update thingy in the access bar. anything special that needs to be done for it to work?
[06:35] <Seveas-SFD> samu2, what is the error?
[06:35] <paulw> h17m4n, there is a .deb of it at www.nero.com
[06:35] <h17m4n> no apt-get for it :(
[06:36] <brenner> Zacar: just boot off the windows CD and install on the partition
[06:36] <Gobbla> Zacar: I would install xp first
[06:36] <shadikka> Okay, I'm so very beginning to feel that it probably reads somewhere in the manual but just exactly what do I have to type to the xorg.conf to get a refresh rate forced? :/
[06:36] <brenner> Zacar: you'll have to reinstall the bootloader though...xp wipes it out
[06:36] <samu2> Seveas-SFD, its 4 lines long, should i pastebin it?
[06:36] <shadikka> !xorg
[06:36] <ubotu> xorg is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <Seveas-SFD> samu2, or in a private message :)
[06:37] <No1Viking> !locales
[06:37] <ubotu> No1Viking: What?
[06:37] <Zacar> where could i do that brenner and how?
[06:37] <shadikka> !xorg.conf
[06:37] <ubotu> shadikka: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:37] <brenner> shadikka: it picks the highest rate available for that res.
[06:37] <paulw> Zacar, what he means is, it's better to install win first
[06:37] <brenner> Zacar: there's a grub restore topic on the wiki
[06:37] <h17m4n> hmm nerolinux is 32 bit only... I'm trying to burn a dvd so I could install a 32 bit distro :-/
[06:37] <shadikka> brenner, yeah, but it won't detect it right. It forces 60Hz though the monitor is able for 72Hz (yeah, still a murder for eyes)
[06:37] <nalioth> h17m4n: install k3b, gnomebaker or graveman
[06:38] <brenner> shadikka: is this general desktop? console? game? what?
[06:38] <digitalfox> h17m4n> k3b or gnomebaker
[06:38] <Zacar> okay so if i install windows first all will go well?
[06:38] <paulw> h17m4n, i burn dvd's with it all the time
[06:38] <digitalfox> oh, nalioth beat me to it
[06:38] <oolon> h17m4n, try k3b :D
[06:38] <shadikka> brenner, general desktop.
[06:38] <brenner> Zacar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:38] <drasko> hi everyone. Is there a Tarantella Secure Desktop clone for Linux theat I can use on my deb box to log to remote machine that supports Tarantella, so I don't have to switch to Windoze
[06:38] <h17m4n> whoa thx... let me try some of those
[06:38] <Zacar> thanks brenner
[06:38] <pedrobest> thanks ill be back later
[06:38] <wold> hi.. how can I detect my isa sound card?
[06:39] <No1Viking> How can I get my swedish characters work in filenames?
[06:39] <wold> I've asked about it long time ago.. got it working then.. but dont remember now
[06:39] <wold> ?? isa
[06:39] <CookedGryphon> hey everybody, i'm still sorting my winmodem, i have written a script that uninstalls it, recompiles and reboots after every use and this seems to make it work, does anyone have any ideas how i can work out what's stopping it working more than once? some process that doesn't quit or something perhaps
[06:39] <Seveas-SFD> drasko, which protocol does tantarella use?
[06:40] <brenner> shadikka: what res you running?
[06:40] <shadikka> brenner, ATM 1024x768, want to run 1280x960 (and yeah, I was able to get that one there already)
[06:41] <brenner> shadikka: so you've done the res fix?
[06:41] <paulw> anyone use crossover office?
[06:41] <brenner> to get 1280
[06:41] <paulw> i need help getting the gnome menus to show up for installed apps
[06:42] <shadikka> brenner, edited xorg.conf. It had 1280x1024, but that's only 60Hz for this monitor and I can't stand it.
[06:42] <endy_x> paulw, try installing "smeg" it a menu editor
[06:42] <vladuz976> when is brezzy coming out?
[06:42] <brenner> shadikka: your rates probably aren't right
[06:42] <paulw> endy_x, got that
[06:42] <shadikka> brenner, yes, that just _might_ be... x)
[06:42] <nalioth> vladuz976: mid october (next month)
[06:42] <demantik> anybody know why i cant 'sudo' things...says password is wrong,yet i can 'su' an password works
[06:42] <lambic> where can I access my gfx card setting, the only refresh rate I got is 60hz????????????
[06:43] <brenner> shadikka: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:43] <shadikka> ok
[06:43] <brenner> lambic: you too....your rates probably aren't correct
[06:43] <shadikka> brenner: 30-70, 50-160
[06:43] <brenner> shadikka: does that match xorg.conf?
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, let's see..
[06:44] <brenner> horizsync and vertrefresh
[06:44] <MrBear> hi people
[06:44] <h17m4n> When I try to burn with k3b, I get this: paste on #flood
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, I can't find those there :D
[06:44] <demantik> any1?
[06:44] <brenner> shadikka: no moniitor section?
[06:44] <MrBear> I finally got ubuntu installed
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, monitor section has "Option DPMS"
[06:44] <andre_r> hey, how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[06:44] <shadikka> and identifier
[06:44] <brenner> shadikka: that's just the power save mode iirc
[06:45] <demantik> anybody...lol..
[06:45] <shadikka> brenner, ok... x)
[06:45] <MrBear> I love it
[06:45] <katox> does anyone know if something like this is planned for upcoming breezy release? http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-July/041909.html
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: no wonder......your rates aren't even entered
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: add lines below the DPMS one like this:
[06:45] <brenner> HorizSync   31.5 - 68.7
[06:45] <brenner>         VertRefresh 50 - 150
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: change the rates to match yours
[06:45] <shadikka> brenner, roger that.
[06:46] <brenner> demantik: you using *your* passowrd?
[06:46] <chaitat> jsp server for ubuntu?
[06:46] <endy_x> shadikka, be careful if you put really bad number in you can break your monitor :o
[06:46] <shadikka> endy_x, yeah, ddcprobe'd it :)
[06:46] <demantik> nope
[06:46] <shadikka> brenner, and then?
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: save and close, then restart X
[06:47] <shadikka> OK.
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: oh
[06:47] <shadikka> yeah?
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: ah, nvm....go ahead
[06:47] <brenner> :)
[06:47] <brenner> you already answered what i was gonna ask
[06:47] <Hoxzer> :E
[06:47] <brenner> demantik: that's why
[06:48] <nalioth> brenner: why are you always in here raisin cain?
[06:48] <brenner> nalioth: just to bug you. :P
[06:48] <CookedGryphon> how do i set xchat to automatically load clicked urls in firefox instead of me having to right click?
[06:48] <CookedGryphon> i'm right clicking to say open in web browser n that's jsut weird
[06:49] <deFrysk> CookedGryphon, klik it with left mouse button ?
[06:49] <CookedGryphon> er, yeah and then i does nothign
[06:49] <nalioth> brenner: doesnt bug me 'tall
[06:49] <brenner> CookedGryphon: ask in #xchat.....helpful  people in there.
[06:49] <deFrysk> nope does not work
[06:49] <nalioth> brenner: c'mon man
[06:49] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: you using gnome?
[06:50] <CookedGryphon> yup
[06:50] <brenner> nalioth: what? it's true. :)
[06:50] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: firefox is your default browser/
[06:50] <poypoy> Is there a way to run 32bit apps on 64bit? :\ Can't install flash
[06:50] <delltony> anyone know where i can find mozilla-mplayer and mplayer for breezy or does it exist?
[06:50] <nalioth> poypoy: in a chroot environment
[06:51] <poypoy> ...
[06:51] <nalioth> delltony: it may not exist yet
[06:51] <delltony> ok
[06:51] <dawynn> When I log on to a console session, it says I have "new mail".  I'm certain that this is just local system mail, but how do I read the mail?
[06:51] <poypoy> I'll google chroot
[06:51] <delltony> wanting to view stuff from launch.yahoo but i have no way to do it :(
[06:51] <endy_x> poypoy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 may help
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> brenner, i thought u said they were friendly in #xchat?
[06:52] <jMi> dawynn: just type mail and hit returnn
[06:52] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: did they cook your goose in #xchat?
[06:52] <darkinca> hi i got a problem with the live cd
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> they were very rude
[06:52] <billy> dawynn: from cl type mail
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> i asked
[06:52] <Jhair> dawynn, with mail
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> n they said ctrl+click
[06:53] <CookedGryphon> i said is there any way to make it so u just click
[06:53] <CookedGryphon> and they said "No."
[06:53] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: as long as they didnt suggest an anatomically incorrect place to ctrl-click
[06:53] <dawynn> Can I set up, say Thunderbird or KMail to read this "mail"?
[06:53] <oolon> popey, also look at this for flash on 64bit http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_flash_and_java_on_amd64
[06:53] <brenner> CookedGryphon: i can't left-click either
[06:53] <shadikka> brenner, no help :/
[06:53] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[06:53] <poypoy> thanks endy_x
[06:54] <darkinca> i always got an error when there is standing snapshots config and then back to the menu
[06:54] <brenner> CookedGryphon: if that's what you define as rude...you haven't been an IRCer very long. :-/
[06:54] <endy_x> lol
[06:54] <brenner> shadikka: ok.....what's your monitor?
[06:54] <oolon> poypoy, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_flash_and_java_on_amd64
[06:54] <CookedGryphon> brenner all my irc experience has been in this lil room, and everyone here is soo noce
[06:54] <shadikka> brenner, Samtron 76E
[06:54] <CookedGryphon> ] nice*
[06:54] <poypoy> Thanka oolon
[06:54] <brenner> shadikka: you sure it can actually use a higher rate than 60 at that res.?
[06:55] <brenner> CookedGryphon: you've been spoilt :)
[06:55] <shadikka> brenner, yes, I used 72Hz in Windows.
[06:55] <oolon> poypoy, i switched to a 32 bit install but i may try 64 again soon
[06:55] <brenner> shadikka: ok, then...
[06:55] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: then never go anywhere else
[06:55] <Faust> 
[06:55] <CookedGryphon> i don't plan to
[06:55] <nalioth> nalioth: we are the exception (mostly) in here
[06:55] <shik45> anyone here use Gnoppix
[06:55] <brenner> shadikka: what  usually do is google your monitor and "xorg" to get someone else's rates to check the probed ones are correct
[06:56] <oolon> CookedGryphon, if you want pain you can go into  #debian and tell them you run Ubuntu
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> it was brenner's fault ileft in the first place
[06:56] <poypoy> oolon, the only _real_ trouble I have is with WLAN
[06:56] <shadikka> brenner, ok.
[06:56] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: we are the exception in here (mostly)
[06:56] <poypoy> linux-wlan-ng doesn't have 64bit version
[06:56] <poypoy> I don't think so anyway
[06:56] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: yes, brenner is always causing trouble
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> ooh that'll b fun, who's coming with me! let's invade #debian and start saying how great ubuntu is
[06:56] <oolon> poypoy, oh, I have a wired network :)
[06:56] <delltony> the win32codecs are they available for breezy yet?
[06:56] <brenner> CookedGryphon: lol, they gave you an answer didn't they?
[06:56] <darkinca> can somebody help me??
[06:57] <CookedGryphon> tru, but it would have been better if they'd said no, sorry that's all you can do
[06:57] <linuxpoet> Is there a respository (say testing, or beta or something) that I could get Gnome 2.12
[06:57] <sJaM> why do some programs not appear in the menu after installing them via apt, while it use to be on my previous comp?
[06:57] <brenner> shadikka: actually, using HorizSync as a keyword is better
[06:57] <CookedGryphon> darkinca, jsut ask away
[06:57] <oolon> darkinca, whats the error
[06:57] <shadikka> brenner, :D
[06:57] <endy_x> linuxpoet, you can only do it on ubuntu with the breezy preview afaik
[06:57] <brenner> CookedGryphon: trust me, in other channels, they'd go: "no...piss of newbie."
[06:58] <poypoy> oolon, I have part wired and part wireless, the antenna's on my wlan/pc touch, but other people can't access it if I don't do it this way
[06:58] <linuxpoet> :(
[06:58] <poypoy> Gonna buy a hub soon, so I can plug myself wired, and others can still get on WLAN
[06:58] <CookedGryphon> brenner, i'm not quite a newbie any more.. i'm learning
[06:58] <brenner> nalioth: bully
[06:58] <billy> dawynn: not sure about Thunderbird or Kmail, but you can with Evolution
[06:58] <endy_x> linuxpoet, in a week or so it will be released and stable, just wait a little longer :)
[06:58] <shadikka> afk ->
[06:59] <poypoy> One question: Is there a way to download a certain file from terminal..? just like... 'download http;//blabla.com/file.bla'?
[06:59] <darkinca> i got the live cd and it doesn't work, i got an error after snapshot config
[06:59] <Jhair> poypoy, wget
[06:59] <endy_x> poypoy, "man wget"
[06:59] <NB_Ubuntu> hm..
[06:59] <linuxpoet> well if it is going to be released in a week, maybe I should do a dist-upgrade :)
[06:59] <nalioth> brenner: you mean billy, dont you?
[06:59] <MrBear> you guys know how to maniuall install flash for mozilla?
[06:59] <NB_Ubuntu> ok, so I'm trying to get nvtv to work properly..
[06:59] <brenner> sJaM: afaik, 'cos the packager didn't add menu entry configs.....
[06:59] <endy_x> linuxpoet, well maybe mroe than a week :)
[06:59] <endy_x> more*
[06:59] <nalioth> MrBear: you running i386?
[06:59] <MrBear> yes
[06:59] <sJaM> it did on my previous comp
[07:00] <nalioth> !tell MrBear about flash
[07:00] <NB_Ubuntu> when the system is pal, it's nice and clean, but it's black and white.  if I run ntsc, it's color, but it's terribly interlaced...
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> poypoy or u could get proz zwhich is a command line download manager
[07:00] <LethAL-Rocks> How can I sudo a script on startup?
[07:00] <poypoy> thanks :)
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> poypoy and supports resuma and splitting files
[07:00] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: please, man, proz is overkill for anything under 100mb
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> proz = prozilla , wget is also handy.
[07:00] <NB_Ubuntu> any suggestions?
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> nalioth, u dunno what he's downloading
[07:00] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, why you want that?
[07:01] <LethAL-Rocks> speedtouchconf
[07:01] <brenner> nalioth: picking on billy now too?
[07:02] <LethAL-Rocks> GNU-GPL, is it possible somehow?
[07:02] <endy_x> LethAL-Rocks, put the commands in a file like /etc/init.d/local and "sudo update-rc.d local defaults"
[07:02] <endy_x> LethAL-Rocks, that will run on boot
[07:02] <LethAL-Rocks> Ah, ty
[07:02] <brenner> sJaM: the same package? :-/
[07:02] <GNU-GPL> endy_x, that's not what he asked
[07:02] <nalioth> brenner: i thought you mis-hit your tab key
[07:02] <sJaM> yes brenner
[07:02] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[07:02] <sJaM> gvim
[07:03] <endy_x> GNU-GPL, my bad, I take it back
[07:03] <brenner> sJaM: tried a killall gnome-panel?
[07:03] <GNU-GPL> endy_x, though i think he wanted what you replied.. (bad question of him ;))
[07:03] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[07:03] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:03] <dawynn> Billy -- where do I get evolution?  It's not listed in Synaptic!
[07:03] <endy_x> :)
[07:03] <MrBear> alright I am so lost
[07:04] <darkinca> i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:04] <CookedGryphon> okay i've decided i hate totem, what's the best and easiest to install dvd player?
[07:04] <GNU-GPL> dawynn, installed by default?
[07:04] <nalioth> dawynn: do you have all your repos enabled/
[07:04] <sJaM> yes
[07:04] <dawynn> ?? With Kubuntu?
[07:04] <trygvebw> CookedGryphon: Ogle
[07:04] <billy> dawynn: you sure>
[07:04] <nalioth> MrBear: how lost are ya?
[07:04] <billy> dawynn: you sure?
[07:04] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:05] <Jhair> totem+gstreamer is just a mess, try mplayer it works most of the time
[07:05] <eno> could I have some advice please?  How could I install Linux (Ubuntu preferably) onto a computer whose BIOS I can't access and has no floppy drive?
[07:05] <_pir> helo, How do I disable/ (turn off ) the samba client, ..  Thanks.
[07:05] <pmjdebruijn> Jhair, hardly...
[07:05] <GNU-GPL> eno: cd install?
[07:05] <endy_x> CookedGryphon, some pople like VLC
[07:05] <eno> it wont boot from cd
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> _pir,  you mean the samba SERVER/Service?
[07:05] <LethAL-Rocks> You have windows atm?
[07:05] <AdmiralCrunch> I love VLC, fantastic video player
[07:05] <dawynn> Hmm.  Synaptics been a little iffy on searches lately.  It found it this time.
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> (eno)
[07:06] <eno> what is windows ATM?
[07:06] <AdmiralCrunch> So since the prview release came out, when we type apt-get dist-upgrade we will get that now eh?
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> Are you using windows?
[07:06] <GNU-GPL> (ATM=at this moment
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[07:06] <eno> well yes windows is on that computer right now
[07:06] <sJaM> didn't work brenner
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> AdmiralCrunch, a suprise!
[07:07] <_pir> Dr_Willis: I think yes, I just dont want to be (see / be seen) in the ms network neighborhood
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> :)
[07:07] <LethAL-Rocks> I think partitioning software could make your harddrive unbootable, which would force it to use the CD, someone tell me if I am right
[07:07] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:07] <eno> why is there a windoze installeer for linux?
[07:07] <trygvebw> eno: ?
[07:07] <brenner> sJaM: hmm, is there a refresh rate in the screen res selection dialog?
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> trygvebw, ?
[07:07] <trygvebw> what is a "windows installer"?
[07:07] <_pir> I tried to uninstall it, But this will uninstall also the "ubuntu-desktop"
[07:08] <eno> like a windose app that you can install linux from
[07:08] <trygvebw> ubuntu-desktop is harmless to remove :)
[07:08] <GNU-GPL> trygvebw, that ugly blue dos like screen what you get when inserting a windows cd on startup?
[07:08] <LethAL-Rocks> It's gdm that might worry people :P
[07:08] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[07:08] <trygvebw> ok. :P
[07:08] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.
[07:08] <eno> actually you have given me an idea, thank you kind people
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> How do I make a file in the terminal?
[07:09] <sJaM> brenner ?
[07:09] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, touch <filename>
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> ty
[07:09] <B|ueMat> Anyone know of any transparent themes?
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> for?
[07:09] <NB_Ubuntu> can anyone help me figure out how to get ivtv installed?
[07:09] <brenner> sJaM: sys > prefs > screen res
[07:09] <dawynn> LethAL-Rocks -- ??  try touch.  Say "touch {filename}".  This creates an empty file.
[07:09] <wold> hi.. i've installed alsa-utils.. but cant find alsaconf
[07:10] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, if they are transparent, you won't see them,, so what's the point? :P
[07:10] <vern401> < has tried to figure out how to install... and is a lost cause so far
[07:10] <darkinca> i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.
[07:10] <LethAL-Rocks> brenner, it's ok, GNU-GPL told me
[07:10] <_pir> : <trygvebw  Thanks
[07:10] <NB_Ubuntu> bbiab
[07:10] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, You know what I mean, smart ass :-)
[07:10] <trygvebw> _pir: :)
[07:10] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu. PLEASE PRIVATE CHAT
[07:10] <deFrysk> wold, alsatools
[07:10] <deFrysk> or alsa-tools
[07:10] <sJaM> 60 Hz
[07:10] <deFrysk> whatever it may be
[07:10] <sJaM> brenner 60 Hz
[07:10] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, :P
[07:11] <MrBear> whats the wiki for ati cards
[07:11] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, Rephrase to slightly opague then..
[07:11] <chombee> Breezy question: What is this Search & Indexing appearing in both my Applications and System menu, and why doesn't it work?
[07:11] <B|ueMat> opaque
[07:11] <brenner> sJaM: nothing higher? :-/
[07:11] <trygvebw> chombee: That's a settings panel for Beagle, as far as i know :)
[07:11] <wold> deFrysk, I cant find alsatools.. or with "-". .. but when I searched for alsaconf.. I got up: Note, selecting alsa-utils instead of alsaconf
[07:12] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu. (USE PRIVATE CHAT)
[07:12] <sJaM> I have a resolution of 1400x1050
[07:12] <chombee> trygvebw - is Beagle installed by default?
[07:12] <Hoxzer> hmm... do you guys know any software what can browse ext3 partition in windows?
[07:12] <trygvebw> chombee: i think so
[07:12] <trygvebw> Hoxzer: http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html&ei=-RMjQ5DJE53ARaDCjeAH
[07:12] <brenner> sJaM: no, i meant the refresh rate...can you click on that?
[07:12] <sJaM> yes
[07:12] <sJaM> but only 60 Hz
[07:12] <NB_Ubuntu> LethAL-Rocks, I'm trying to get ivtv installed for a pvr 150
[07:12] <dawynn> The "mail" that I access by typing <mail> at the cl, where is it stored?
[07:12] <wold> deFrysk, guys in #debian says alsaconf is missing..and wondring where it was gone:p
[07:13] <nalioth> Hoxzer: ext2fs.sourceforge.net   be careful
[07:13] <MrBear> sorry
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> NB_Ubuntu, I don't do tv or video stuff
[07:13] <NB_Ubuntu> oh
[07:13] <billy> dawynn: /var/mail/username
[07:13] <NB_Ubuntu> I thought you were asking me before
[07:13] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I only want to read :)
[07:13] <MrBear> I lost root control
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:13] <MrBear> how do I get into root
[07:13] <wold> deFrysk,  *where it went*
[07:13] <Juhaz> Hoxzer, explore2fs is decent enough if you don't need write support and don't want to play with file system drivers
[07:13] <trygvebw> Mr_You: sudo -i
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> !sudo
[07:13] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:13] <sJaM> but what that has to do with gvim not in the menu
[07:13] <brenner> sJaM: i'm out of ideas.....forum search time!
[07:13] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, ehm.. why not use samba then?
[07:13] <GNU-GPL> :P
[07:13] <AdmiralCrunch> MrBear, sudo -s ?
[07:14] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.
[07:14] <brenner> Juhaz: explore2fs, that windows tool?
[07:14] <MrBear> I got it thanks
[07:14] <trygvebw> MrBear: sudo -i
[07:14] <MrBear> yep
[07:14] <deFrysk> wold, alsaconf is needed to detect your soundcard and set it up
[07:14] <MrBear> trying to get flash for mozilla
[07:14] <Juhaz> brenner, yes
[07:14] <metis> can anyone help me with apache?
[07:14] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:14] <MrBear> had to unlock the restricted despos
[07:14] <hobbit_will_yate> Just written a java app to do some custom stuff - I want to run it after I log in - can anyone help?
[07:14] <GNU-GPL> metis, what's the question?
[07:15] <brenner> Juhaz: doesn't support directory transfer though iirc
[07:15] <wold> deFrysk, exactly.. but seems like its impossible to get hold of
[07:15] <deFrysk> wold, probably its in the package alsatools
[07:15] <MrBear> is there a wiki on how to get a ATI card fully working
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:15] <brenner> MrBear: what probs?
[07:15] <Seveas-SFD> !ati
[07:15] <B|ueMat> metis, whats your apache issue?
[07:15] <Benjamindaines> Hello everyone has Ubuntu been made to work wiht AirPort Extreme yet?
[07:15] <wold> deFrysk, it dosnt exist any package named that
[07:15] <bz0b> can someone help me please?
[07:15] <GNU-GPL> Seveas-SFD, you're lagging
[07:15] <Seveas-SFD> I know
[07:16] <deFrysk> wold, that IS new to me :s
[07:16] <trygvebw> Benjamindaines: no.
[07:16] <MrBear> well I have a AIW 9800pro
[07:16] <bz0b> Can someone please tell me how to install the drivers for my usb wifi card?
[07:16] <MrBear> like screensavers run slow
[07:16] <trygvebw> bz0b: don't ask to ask :)
[07:16] <trygvebw> bz0b: which card is it?
[07:16] <percydaman> hi everybody
[07:16] <deFrysk> wold, try alsa-base
[07:16] <bz0b> d-link dwl g132
[07:16] <GNU-GPL> hi
[07:16] <MrBear> hi
[07:16] <percydaman> brand new linux user
[07:16] <shadikka> Ehm, how to restart X? ^^; Am I honestly saying blind or something xD
[07:16] <bz0b> hey
[07:16] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:16] <trygvebw> percydaman: hi
[07:16] <wold> deFrysk,  E: Couldn't find package alsatools
[07:17] <trygvebw> shadikka: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:17] <shadikka> thank
[07:17] <shadikka> s
[07:17] <genbie> anyone knows how to add a locale that usues the "windows encodings" as opposed to UTF in ubuntu plz? problem is that i have to run some wine app that require that crap windows encoding!
[07:17] <bz0b> trygvebw, so any ideas?
[07:17] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:17] <GNU-GPL> percydaman, do you have a question, or are you just visiting this channel, to scoop around? :)
[07:17] <metis> bluemat: how do I migrate website from IIS to apache...cuz the folder structure is differnet
[07:17] <wold> deFrysk, got that installed already... but as I said.. apt-get resolved alsaconf to alsa-utils.. but got that one installed as well
[07:17] <Benjamindaines> Im running off my PowerBook from the LiveCD is there a way to get my Linksys WUSB11 Ver. 2.8 to work?
[07:17] <trygvebw> bz0b: i'm googling
[07:17] <percydaman> i have a question...lol im trying to think of the most intelligent way to ask it :)
[07:18] <brenner> darkinca: eh?  you're trying to install with the live-cd?
[07:18] <bz0b> trygvebw, thanks
[07:18] <GNU-GPL> percydaman, try us
[07:18] <GNU-GPL> :)
[07:18] <deFrysk> to install
[07:18] <deFrysk> and see if that has it
[07:18] <wold> deFrysk, so.. seems like apt-get belives alsaconf is inside the alsa-utils package.. but it isnt
[07:19] <B|ueMat> does there have to be a gnome session active to Run VNC?
[07:19] <trygvebw> bz0b: it uses the atheros chipset afaik
[07:19] <trygvebw> so the madwifi driver should work
[07:19] <trygvebw> brb
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> B|ueMat, on a standard ubuntu install: yes
[07:19] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, not for vnc server
[07:19] <deFrysk> wold, a sec
[07:19] <enyc> blue: no, you can start a manual vncserver with iits own passowrd and DISPLAY= things on it etc...
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> if you don't want that: use freenx (it's even much better :))
[07:19] <darkinca> brenner: not realy i want to see what ubuntu is (not instaling)
[07:19] <percydaman> im trying to install a program.  its in a .tgz file.  i extracted it okay.  now im not sure how to install it.  it has a bin folder with a bunch of bin files.  not sure what to do
[07:19] <WhiteRabbit> freenx is the nice!
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> percydaman, what is it?
[07:19] <wold> deFrysk, ok.. thx
[07:19] <hobbit_will_yate> folks - I have googled for a solution and can't find anything - basically I want a application to run whenever I log in to X.  In windows I would just place a link in the startup folder.  Anyideas on how to do this in ubuntu?
[07:19] <brenner> darkinca: and you get an error when you select boot? (can't remember the exact process)
[07:20] <darkinca> yes
[07:20] <enyc> perc: well depedns if its binaries or source code etc. and reall depends on the program for its' install instructions (often in a file called INSTALL)
[07:20] <Seveas-SFD> freenx is da b0mb :)
[07:20] <WhiteRabbit> fo shizzle
[07:20] <Seveas-SFD> ecpecially the web plugin :)
[07:20] <shadikka> brenner, I found different sync rates - yet no good :( Added 1152x768 and it allows only 55(!)Hz for it.
[07:20] <trygvebw> percydaman: why are you installing it from source?
[07:20] <metis> can anyone help me on how to copy website from IIS to apache .... Im wondering if i have to change all html file links
[07:20] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, ok, so if im connecting from a win box in work, i dont have to have a gnome session running at home, also for vnc do you have to set the desktop in the conf files?
[07:20] <brenner> darkinca: bad CD maybe?
[07:20] <B|ueMat> metis, why would you have to do that?
[07:20] <brenner> shadikka: same montor model?
[07:20] <AdmiralCrunch> Will I get the same results from "apt-get dist-upgrade", as I would from installing the new CDs?
[07:20] <percydaman> its called shake.  its a program im checking out for my work before we cough up 4 grand  :)
[07:20] <shadikka> brenner, yeah
[07:20] <darkinca> i got it from a friend
[07:21] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, is it a flat screen?
[07:21] <Cryptid> hello every one
[07:21] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, no, CRT
[07:21] <MrBear> can someone give me the link for the wiki for adding mp3 etc support
[07:21] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, thats nasty then hehe
[07:21] <bz0b> trygvebw, any luck?
[07:21] <trygvebw> percydaman: shaketracker?
[07:21] <shadikka> MrBear, www.ubuntuguide.org helped me
[07:21] <percydaman> its called apple shake.  its a compositing program
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, yes.. for the visual part you need a deskop like e.g. gome running
[07:21] <deFrysk> wold, I think hal takes care of configuration now
[07:21] <brenner> !multimedia
[07:21] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> but for the vnc itself not
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> (server)
[07:21] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, thanks for the sympathy ;)
[07:21] <percydaman> theres no install file
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> How can I call a script from another script?
[07:22] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: with *nix, you should never again have to "install" from a cd
[07:22] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, you can always directly edit your xorg.conf
[07:22] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, I need to install the kernel sources.... how would I do that?
[07:22] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, that's what I've BEEN doing!
[07:22] <Cryptid> i am new too Linux so plz tell me how do i install other softwares onto my Box, plz help!
[07:22] <metis> i dont know...do I ?? lol im really new to this ...if my website is in /inetpub how and the links are c:\inetpub\website\index.html? how do copy and make sure links work in apache bluemat?
[07:22] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: yes, dist-upgrade after you modify your sources.list will fix you up (when the time comes)
[07:22] <SuperTails92> LethAL-Rocks: Like you would from the CLI.
[07:22] <trygvebw> NB_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> oh, just /. then
[07:22] <trygvebw> NB_Ubuntu: copy - paste
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> Thanks :)
[07:22] <nalioth> !tell Cryptid about synaptic
[07:22] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, past your xorg.conf
[07:22] <drasko> I am getting this message from tarantella client: local X server is not available. And it wont connect... What's wrong?
[07:22] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, thats not great really is it
[07:22] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, moment.
[07:23] <NB_Ubuntu> couldn't find package...
[07:23] <Cryptid> what is synaptic?
[07:23] <yhonatan> Cryptid
[07:23] <brenner> !synaptic
[07:23] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:23] <brenner> Cryptid: graphical package manager
[07:23] <yhonatan> :\
[07:23] <percydaman> lol whew im noob but i know what synaptic is...hehe
[07:23] <brenner> sys > admin > synaptic
[07:23] <nalioth> brenner: i've told had ubotu send info to Cryptid about synaptic, if he'd read it, we'd all be better off
[07:23] <yhonatan> percydaman
[07:23] <nalioth> Cryptid: read your private msg
[07:23] <percydaman> yes
[07:24] <Cryptid> k i will
[07:24] <yhonatan> i use the textuall apt
[07:24] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2064
[07:24] <yhonatan> and i think he use it two
[07:24] <yhonatan> so..
[07:24] <toxicle> hello guys
[07:24] <toxicle> i have a question on wifi cards
[07:24] <toxicle> when i installed ubuntu .. i used my tx100 card
[07:24] <toxicle> it detected with no problem
[07:25] <toxicle> now i insert in my orinoco card ...
[07:25] <toxicle> does not detect automatically
[07:25] <toxicle> any help?
[07:25] <AdmiralCrunch> well, I updated my /etc/apt/sources.list and I am going for the dist-upgrade
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, hahah a ATI
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> hahah
[07:25] <Madeye> AdmiralCrunch if I were you i wouldn't do it
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, why are your hor & vert rates so low?
[07:25] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah, whatever.
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> Why is this Madeye
[07:26] <brenner> WhiteRabbit: lay off
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: "modprobe orinoco_cs" in a console
[07:26] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, just tested those, didn't work with ddcprobe'd either
[07:26] <WhiteRabbit> brenner, bite me
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: then check if your card is in Network Preferences
[07:26] <Madeye> AdmiralCrunch I'm on breezy now, and there is a problem with detecting keyboard by Xorg, so i'm on terminal now
[07:26] <toxicle> traveller: thanks i'll try
[07:26] <moquillo> AdmiralCrunch: I just did it last night.. didn't have any probs
[07:26] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  how to force xorg to detect my keyboard?
[07:26] <Hoxzer> :D
[07:26] <toxicle> trygvebw: thanks i'll try
[07:26] <Hoxzer> en vain osaa
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: :)
[07:26] <percydaman> i dont think i need to compile this shake program.  its not open source.  but im a little stuck
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> Well, I have another Hoary partition as a backup
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> so if I fuck up
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, you edit it in the proer area
[07:27] <AdmiralCrunch> I will just drag my Home folder over
[07:27] <shadikka> Hoxzer, liityp kerhoon.
[07:27] <AdmiralCrunch> and install from the CD
[07:27] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:27] <trygvebw> toxicle: "sudo orinoco_cs" of course
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, whats the monitor model
[07:27] <Cryptid> Hey does this Synaptic have all the software released for ubuntu on it
[07:27] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, Samtron 76E
[07:27] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  I've played with xorg.conf but I didn't know what to change,
[07:27] <trygvebw> Cryptid: nope, but it has a lot
[07:27] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: i'd wait a couple weeks
[07:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Madeye, are you trying to increase refrresh rates?
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> Section "InputDevice" Identifier        "Generic Keyboard" in a area like that
[07:27] <Madeye> LethAL-Rocks no, i'm trying to let xorg see my keyboard.
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> nm about me then :P
[07:28] <brenner> LethAL-Rocks: shadikka is
[07:28] <toxicle> sudo modprob orinoco_cs
[07:28] <alba_> alo
[07:28] <AdmiralCrunch> Well I already started grabbing the updates, so if it screws up, it does, I will deal with it
[07:28] <trygvebw> toxicle: modprobe
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, You there?
[07:28] <shadikka> LethAL-Rocks, yea
[07:28] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, 280x1024@65Hz Maximum Resolution
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> LCD?
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah, and 1280x960 works with 72Hz - I'm just trying to tell that to Gnome!
[07:29] <shadikka> LethAL-Rocks, CRT.
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Which res you want?
[07:29] <wold> deFrysk, ok.. and that means I should talk to him?.. or does he takes care of it?
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, na tha max specs allow 1280x1024@65Hz Maximum Resolution
[07:29] <Sashi> hy
[07:29] <deFrysk> wold, ho is him ?
[07:29] <Cryptid> nalioth yhonatan brenner trygvebw thank u all for ur help,Bye.
[07:29] <Sashi> how do i add a proxy so that i can download from wget?
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, bingo found it!
[07:29] <trygvebw> Cryptid: :)
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, but I've used 1280x960 @ 72Hz for ages in Windows :) So it's proven.
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> right
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yep? :)
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, open a terminal and do gtf 1280 1024 72
[07:30] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, ok change this settings in your xorg  Horizontal - 30-70    Vertical -  50-160
[07:30] <shadikka> I'll try LethAL's first.
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, although you should be using 1280x960 for a CRT
[07:30] <brenner> hehe
[07:30] <XKpe> hi
[07:30] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:30] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, I need to install the kernel source... how do I go about doing that?
[07:30] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, um why I'm I wasting my time then...
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, I meant "gtf -f 1280 1024 72 "
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, http://www.samtron.com/product/76e_spec.html look
[07:31] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, then paste me it
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> LethAL-Rocks, stop just stop
[07:31] <XKpe> i removed gaim from the painel now i cant put it there again :S how can i do that?
[07:31] <Sashi> so anyone go an answer
[07:31] <shadikka> Waaaaah, I can't do two things at the same time xD And WhiteRabbit, I already looked at it...
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, look I know why & told ya already
[07:31] <Myrtti> hello everyone
[07:31] <hobbit_will_yate> can't u drag it from the gnome menu directly oonto the panel?
[07:31] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:31] <shadikka> Okay, whatever.
[07:32] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, your vert & hor freq are to set low
[07:32] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah.
[07:32] <Hoxzer> Hobbit_will_yate: I am youuuur slaaaveee oooh babeeeeeeee
[07:32] <shadikka> brb
[07:32] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, you need to change those to aqquire the max res
[07:32] <wold> deFrysk, "hal"
[07:32] <Hoxzer> Spank me oh psank meeeee
[07:32] <hobbit_will_yate> was that called for Hoxzer
[07:32] <wold> deFrysk,  --> hal takes care of configuration now
[07:33] <deFrysk> wold, I think hal detect it yes but perhaps someone else here know more of this
[07:33] <MrBear> how do I fix my sound
[07:33] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  any idea?
[07:33] <MrBear> I have no sound at all
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, wha?
[07:33] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, you have a keyboard with alota fuctions right?
[07:33] <__filip_> how can i open ports in ubuntu 5,10?
[07:33] <Hoxzer> xfree sounds familiar
[07:33] <deFrysk> xfree86 ?
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> & you wanna be ables to use all the wonderful keys right?
[07:33] <deFrysk> warty ?
[07:34] <enyc> filip like, listen on a TCP port ??
[07:34] <enyc> filip: like, what do you want to connect to  open TCP port  ??
[07:34] <LinuxJones> Ugh, alsa isn't finding my soundcard even though the modules are loaded :(
[07:34] <__filip_> enyc: i need to open an port in azureus
[07:34] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, onboard sound ?
[07:34] <nalioth> __filip_: do you have a router?
[07:34] <percydaman> anyone have any idea how to install this shake program?  It has a bunch of folders including this bin folder that has some files in it.
[07:34] <__filip_> nalioth: no
[07:35] <enyc> fili:  azaerius will listen for the port of it's own accord.. however, wether its reachable from outside/internet depends on network config
[07:35] <nalioth> __filip_: then your ports should be open
[07:35] <XKpe> so.. does anyone know i can i put gaim on the painel again?
[07:35] <__filip_> ok.
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, gnome has a feature to setup some of the keys that your probly wanting to use
[07:35] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, no it's a SB Live Value, I upgraded to Breezy last night and everything went well, for some strange reason my sound doesn't work this morning.
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, more than likely your needing to find the gnome keyboard settings rather than changing the xorg.conf keyboard settings just yet
[07:36] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, tried alsamixer ?
[07:36] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, it won't launch
[07:36] <MrBear> I have no sound in ubuntu how do I fix this
[07:36] <shadikka> Ah well, here again...
[07:36] <deFrysk> linuxjones sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, max res @  1280 x 1024@65Hz
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, your not goin to get over 65hz
[07:36] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, to make sure you have it all
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, but the changes we made will help GREATly
[07:37] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, okay, so what do I do now?
[07:37] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, wait a sec I am gonna re-seat the card, in a drunken slumber last night I remember putting some strain on the soundcard and it might have come loose from the slot..brb
[07:37] <percydaman> anyone have any idea how to install this shake program?  It has a bunch of folders including this bin folder that has some files in it.
[07:37] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, ok let me check that first
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, seeing is beliving I feel atm for ya! http://www.samtron.com/product/76e_spec.html check out the specs for self
[07:38] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, I know but it confuses that I have really used 1280x960 at 72Hz in Windows. Oh well, but anything better than 60Hz is, well, better than 60Hz. ;D
[07:38] <brenner> percydaman: any README or INSTALL files?
[07:38] <percydaman> no
[07:38] <brenner> shadikka: er, you *do* know those are the same rates you probed ages ago don't you?
[07:38] <deFrysk> so drunk peaple put strain on souncards eh ?
[07:38] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, windows is a lieing fsck
[07:38] <deFrysk> interesting :p
[07:38] <percydaman> theres absolutely no instructions on installing it...ive looked and looked
[07:38] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yes, Windows is but my monitor told that it was 72Hz. But well, let's forget that.
[07:38] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, no I got up to go have a cigarette and forgot I had my headphones still on :D
[07:39] <shadikka> brenner, yeah?
[07:39] <brenner> percydaman: where'd you get the app?
[07:39] <deFrysk> linuxj
[07:39] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, lol
[07:39] <LinuxJones> heh
[07:39] <Milk_> good afternoon!!
[07:39] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, windows man windows hehe Sure we are trust windows!
[07:39] <percydaman> a guy from work got it.  not sure where he got it.
[07:39] <Milk_> anyone here have experiance with cedega?
[07:39] <brenner> shadikka: looking at your xorg.conf file...you didn't enter the probed ones....
[07:39] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, okay okay okay, you don't have to beat it to the ground...
[07:39] <Leonik> how would i transfer something to a floppy drive using ssh?
[07:39] <deFrysk> Milk_, in #cedega they do
[07:39] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[07:39] <Leonik> my linux box is the only one that has a floppy drive and i wanan put ghost on it
[07:39] <shadikka> brenner, those were temporary ones I found googling. No help from them anyway.
[07:39] <Milk_> deFrysk, I'm in there... no one is answering
[07:40] <deFrysk> ok
[07:40] <nalioth> Leonik: the same way you do it on your local box in a terminal
[07:40] <percydaman> there is a makefile.run in the docs folder...  can i do something with that?
[07:40] <brenner> ah
[07:40] <HappyFool> Leonik: if the floppy is mounted (e.g., at /media/floppy), you can just copy to it
[07:40] <Leonik> what dev is it under?
[07:40] <metis> anyone with apache experience??
[07:40] <Milk_> metis, sure.. whats up
[07:40] <Leonik> sweet linux is so cool
[07:40] <B|ueMat> What is Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"?
[07:40] <Leonik> should i update my linux kernel?
[07:40] <deFrysk> percydaman, to install what ?
[07:40] <brenner> shadikka: do you have a button on your monitor that shows info?
[07:40] <Leonik> or how would i go about doing that?
[07:40] <shadikka> brenner, yes.
[07:41] <nalioth> Leonik: within 30 days, you'll have the option to upgrade your whole box
[07:41] <metis> hey milk i have an IIS server but want to move the website over to apache.....only html...can this be easily done?
[07:41] <percydaman> not sure what you mean.  im trying to get this shake program running
[07:41] <brenner> shadikka: i.e. the current refresh rate it's running?
[07:41] <HappyFool> Leonik: you mean to the latest hoary version (2.6.10-34.5) or something else?
[07:41] <shadikka> brenner, yes.
[07:41] <Leonik> i mean the linux kernel not ubuntu
[07:41] <Milk_> metis, if its only html.. very easy
[07:41] <deFrysk> percydaman, shake program ?
[07:41] <brenner> percydaman: exactly....what's shake?
[07:41] <deFrysk> milk shake ?
[07:41] <nalioth> Leonik: is there a reason for you to have an "updated' kernel?
[07:41] <deFrysk> hippy hippy shake ?
[07:41] <brenner> shadikka: use it in windows.....and see if it really does lie
[07:41] <percydaman> its a graphics compositing program made by apple
[07:41] <metis> my confusion lies with the links cause links in html point to c:\inetpub\ ...etc etc...how do i set this up in apache?
[07:41] <poypoy> Best bet on getting my MX510's extra buttons working on ubuntu? drivers or some hack?
[07:41] <HappyFool> Leonik: hoary has recently provided an update to the kernel it uses; i presume you mean something else
[07:41] <Leonik> not really? just to keep up to date on things
[07:42] <Leonik> i thought that a new linux kerenl was relased like two weeks ago?
[07:42] <percydaman> usually run in maxOS...but they have a linux version.
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> percydaman, hehe your looking at linux & wintel people almost 0 mac lovers hehe
[07:42] <linuxgeekery> Leonik: It was
[07:42] <shadikka> brenner, let's put that aside now, I just want to get this thing to not kill my eyes and yet have a better resolution than 1024x768...
[07:42] <Milk_> metis, I'm not following... your html links point to a specific page right?
[07:42] <percydaman> lol im not mac lover...
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> I am
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> Cuase I can afford them lol
[07:42] <HappyFool> Leonik: i wouldn't bother with that unless you know of specific new features or fixes you need
[07:42] <linuxgeekery> Heh, I kind of am. Not THAT hardcore tho. =D
[07:42] <Leonik> lol ok
[07:42] <Milk_> Can anyone help me with a problem with cedega here?
[07:42] <percydaman> why do you think i installed linux?  id die if we had to purchase a mac to run this program...lol
[07:42] <Leonik> dont wanna mess up my system taht was put together with tape
[07:42] <spiderworm> hey all i plugged in a digital camera usb, according to lsusb and dmesg it recognized the camera, but how do i mount it now?
[07:42] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, if I want an instruction to run on startup, where should I put it?
[07:42] <percydaman> shake is not windows based though
[07:43] <metis> yeah for instance images are poiting to c:\inetpub\website\images\test.jpg.....i just dont understand how to set this up in apache cause the file system is differnet...
[07:43] <deFrysk>  Shake 4
[07:43] <deFrysk> for Linux retails for $4999.
[07:43] <deFrysk> omg!!
[07:43] <HappyFool> NB_Ubuntu: you can add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:43] <Frafra> i'm trying gmail-notify but it display an error (login error). why?
[07:43] <WhiteRabbit> Shake 4 is on discount somewere for free atm ;)
[07:43] <charlesj> how do i create a shortcut for a command that is run so: "./commandname --options" ?
[07:43] <percydaman> yeah its spendy.  im a cg artist
[07:43] <metis> do i have to change the c:\ path links??
[07:43] <Milk_> metis, if your pointing things to anything starting with c: then your not using IIS
[07:43] <brenner> percydaman: a Makefile usually indicates you need to install from source.....
[07:43] <james_> hi
[07:44] <HappyFool> charlesj: right click on desktop, choose 'create launcher'
[07:44] <deFrysk> percydaman, what the name of the install file ?
[07:44] <charlesj> happyfool: done that. what do i type int he command field?
[07:44] <endy_x> percydaman, have you looked in the /bin folder and tried to run shake, it could just run from the extracted directory
[07:44] <brenner> percydaman: but there might be a binary installer somewhere there
[07:44] <HappyFool> charlesj: /path/to/the/program --options
[07:44] <deFrysk> percydaman, what endy_x said indeed
[07:44] <pinucset> how can i kill mozilla firefox? i dont found it at top... HELP1!!!
[07:44] <percydaman> ive tried doubleclicking the shake file in the bin folder...nothing happens...
[07:45] <ali4728> Can anyone help with Name based Virtual server on Ubuntu box?
[07:45] <endy_x> run it from a console and see if it prints an error
[07:45] <brenner> percydaman: possibly need to run it in a terminal
[07:45] <Jhair> I wanted to check this gnome system configuration thing so I clicked System->Administration->Networking, and there apears my ethernet interface is not configured although I am using that interface right now (manually configured though)
[07:45] <percydaman> so i just cd to its location and type what?
[07:45] <HappyFool> pinucset: have you looked in applications -> system tools -> system monitor ?
[07:45] <Jhair> that's bad, System->Administration->Network *should* read the current settings
[07:46] <endy_x> percydaman, cd <directory> ./<name of executable>
[07:46] <deFrysk> percydaman, is there an installfile in the folder ?
[07:46] <samu2> How can i copy text from the terminal window in the "Software Updates" thing?
[07:46] <samu2> I can't right-click, tried ctrl+c and ctrl+alt+c.
[07:46] <oli4> is there a way to limit the amount of resources a program can use ? ... so it won't go higher than say... 60% cpu or something ?
[07:46] <brenner> samu2: you have a middle mouse button?
[07:46] <charlesj> happyfool: didn't work
[07:46] <h17m4n> what the freak.... k3b won't burn the DVD iso I have... it burned a CD just fine, but when I try to burn the DVD it chokes
[07:46] <XIII> hi all
[07:46] <samu2> brenner, yeah
[07:46] <percydaman> im not sure deFrysk.  heres the following files:  mkpak, shake, tshake, shkv.exe, tshkx.exe, shkx.exe
[07:47] <endy_x> percydaman, is this a free demo? if so i'll d/l it and have a try if its not huge
[07:47] <B|ueMat> What is Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"?
[07:47] <h17m4n> What other dvd iso burning apps are out there?
[07:47] <HappyFool> charlesj: standby, let me try it
[07:47] <brenner> samu2: highlight the text, open an editor, and then middle-click
[07:47] <XIII> how can i setup a new desktop manager like UDE or KDE??
[07:47] <brenner> in the editor
[07:47] <charlesj> happyfool: ok
[07:47] <deFrysk> percydaman, key in shake
[07:47] <percydaman> tried that endy... it said bad intepreter
[07:47] <samu2> Oh selecting automatically copies?
[07:47] <deFrysk> it probably the executable
[07:47] <samu2> brenner, thanks
[07:47] <percydaman> what do you mean?
[07:47] <h17m4n> XIII: Run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <brenner> samu2: need to middl-click where you want to paste
[07:47] <oli4> XIII, first install it.. then in gdm choose to run it instead of gnome...
[07:48] <XIII> oli4 how can i get gdm?
[07:48] <h17m4n> The command I gave you will install the kde stuff
[07:48] <brenner> samu2: by middle, i mean pressing the scroller in
[07:48] <oli4> xiii : gdm is whats running when you log in
[07:48] <XIII> h17m4n what about UDE?
[07:48] <goo> I have some stupid problems woth
[07:48] <goo> err..
[07:48] <h17m4n> I dunno what that is yet
[07:49] <XIII> oli4 how could i choose it from gdm?
[07:49] <oli4> so... log out and you are probebly in gdm.. unless you allways startup X with startx... from the prompt that is
[07:49] <Frafra> i've set mail-notification for gmail, but it give me a login error
[07:49] <deFrysk> percydaman, cd into the folder and key in shake
[07:49] <XIII> h17m4n it's unix desktop enviroment
[07:49] <oli4> there is a "sessions" thingy... button
[07:49] <brenner> XIII: click on sessions
[07:49] <percydaman> you mean just type "shake"?  i tried that
[07:49] <oli4> Xiii what brenner says :)
[07:49] <percydaman> no such command or something like that
[07:49] <XIII> then?
[07:50] <h17m4n> This is how I'll have to burn this ISO: Create a FTP server and put the file in there so I can grab it from my desktop pc and burn it with Nero.
[07:50] <brenner> oli4: it's like a hyperlink, so i can see why you weren't quite sure. :)
[07:50] <oli4> XIII: choose your newly installed windowmanager
[07:50] <nalioth> h17m4n: google "cdrecord-prodvd"
[07:50] <deFrysk> percydaman, if you paid for it I would call the helpdesk
[07:50] <goo> I have some stupid problems with Breezy - My AltGr key doesn't say it's ISO_Level3_Shift anymore, it just claims to be Alt_R, with the reult that I cannot type "at" anymore. Major drawback. Any fixes for this yet?
[07:50] <XIII> oli4, no other choice but gnome
[07:50] <brenner> percydaman: probably: ./shake
[07:50] <brenner> in the working dir
[07:50] <Frafra> someone use mail-notification for gmail?
[07:51] <deFrysk> brenner, also possible yes
[07:51] <oli4> XIII: u did install kde allready ?
[07:51] <oli4> XIII: or any other wm for that matter ?
[07:51] <Sashi> hmm
[07:51] <XIII> not kde, but ude
[07:51] <XIII> yeah i did
[07:51] <percydaman> brenner:  it says /bin/csh bad intepreter: no such file or directory
[07:51] <oli4> ude... hmm. .never heard of it.. .
[07:51] <h17m4n> nalioth: Thankx... Will look into it now.
[07:51] <oli4> lemme c
[07:51] <Sashi> is there a downloader fer X? that allows me too add proxies?
[07:51] <XIII> unix desktop enviroment
[07:51] <nalioth> Sashi: "wget"
[07:51] <deFrysk> percydaman, try sh shake
[07:51] <HappyFool> charlesj: it works here as i expect
[07:52] <HappyFool> charlesj: does the command work from the command line?
[07:52] <Sashi> how to add proxies though
[07:52] <Sashi> i cant seem to add proxy
[07:52] <Sashi> i do Http proxy thing
[07:52] <oli4> XIII: Ah... that ude... back to basic u want... let me see if there's a gdm manager thingy
[07:52] <percydaman> it says line 23: suntax error near unexpected token 'else'
[07:52] <XIII> ok
[07:52] <percydaman> syntax
[07:53] <HappyFool> Sashi: 'http_proxy=http://my.proxy.net:<port>/ wget http://www.google.com', where <port> should be the port number
[07:53] <charlesj> happyfool: yup
[07:53] <oli4> XIII: i don't think i can give u any pointers on how to edit your gdm configuration... but thats what i would google on
[07:54] <topyli> i really like the new totem interface. if i still liked file/plylist placed players a la xmms, i'd probably use totem for audio too :)
[07:54] <Nosforit> Hi there.
[07:54] <deFrysk> percydaman, is there a docs folder with a install.txt or something ?
[07:54] <oli4> anyone know how to limit a programs resources to... lets say 60% of whats available ? ( or maybe point me to a good search string )
[07:54] <charlesj> happyfool: it is a cyberoam client i use to connect to my isp. has not been compiled. unzip and use. could that be the problem?
[07:54] <XIII> thnx oli4
[07:55] <HappyFool> charlesj: has *not* been compiled?
[07:55] <XIII> :)
[07:55] <HappyFool> charlesj: but you said it runs from the command line fine ?
[07:55] <Nosforit> New Ubuntu user here. Just finished the install. =)
[07:55] <percydaman> theres a docs folder but no install.txt  theres a makefile, makefile.run and some pdf's.  none were helpful
[07:55] <topyli> Nosforit: welcome to freedom :)
[07:55] <deFrysk> percydaman, sh makefile.run
[07:55] <Cryptid> Hi does ubuntu Have a CD-writing Software installed in it
[07:56] <deFrysk> fingers crossed
[07:56] <brenner> doesn't apple even provide any docs for their s/ware? :)
[07:56] <charlesj> happyfool: only if i am in the same folder
[07:56] <Frafra> who use mail-nofitication with gmail?
[07:56] <h17m4n> !dvd
[07:56] <brenner> Cryptid: yep. nautilus
[07:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[07:56] <HappyFool> charlesj: you need to specify the path to the program (i.e., /home/charlesj/software/cybercomm/foo)
[07:56] <oolon> Cryptid, you have a few to choose from i use k3b
[07:56] <HappyFool> charlesj: not './cybercomm'
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 1: include: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 3: all:: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 4: SHKDIR: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 4: @cp: command not found
[07:57] <Cryptid> I thought K3b is only for KDE
[07:57] <brenner> stop!
[07:57] <percydaman> is it possible that it just doesn't run on this version of linux?
[07:57] <deFrysk> percydaman, is it possible its not the package for linux ?
[07:57] <pestilence> Xorg causes my system load to be consistently 3+, even when i'm only logged in via ssh...what gives?
[07:57] <HappyFool> sounds like that is a makefile, not a shell script file
[07:57] <billy> Cryptid: try k3b
[07:57] <Cryptid> Where do i find Nautilus on my System
[07:57] <charlesj> happyfool: that's exactly what i typed in the command field of the launcher- /path/crclient -u asdf
[07:57] <brenner> percydaman: er, do you have build-essential nstalled?
[07:58] <oolon> i think i ran it in gnome once synaptic is where to look for burning apps though
[07:58] <kubuntu> Cryptid: k3b uses Qt libraries. u can use from any desktop with these libraries installed
[07:58] <deFrysk> Cryptid, open homefolder
[07:58] <deFrysk> thats nautilus
[07:58] <percydaman> deFrysk:  i couldn't imagine its not linux build.  its has these linux file right?
[07:58] <HappyFool> charlesj: where exactly is the client file? in your home directory?
[07:58] <percydaman> brenner:  im not familiar with build-essential
[07:58] <charlesj> happyfool: yes
[07:59] <deFrysk> percydaman, I think its a helpdesk prob
[07:59] <HappyFool> charlesj: and by '/path' do you actually mean '/home/charlesj/whatever' ?
[07:59] <Cryptid> home folder is nautilus then how do i use it for writing cds and will K3b work with out KDE installed(hope this is not a dumb Questions, but what can i do i am new to linux)
[07:59] <charlesj> happyfool: yes
[07:59] <deFrysk> Cryptid, rightclik the iso and burn
[08:00] <charlesj> happyfool: i even tried it without specifying the path
[08:00] <HappyFool> charlesj: ok, does '/path/crclient -u asdf' work from a different folder?
[08:00] <masterloki> Where can I download the man pages for development (i.e. man strcmp says it doesn't exist)
[08:00] <metis> bluemat....have u read the dialog ive sent u?
[08:00] <charlesj> happyfool: no
[08:00] <percydaman> yeah not something i can ask helpdesk really.  Its something we're "evaluating" before purchasing if you know what I mean.  Theres no demo available
[08:00] <deFrysk> Cryptid, if you insert an empty cd noutilus burn wil open where you can drag and drop your files in
[08:00] <HappyFool> charlesj: ok, it might be easiest to write a little wrapper script to first change to the right directory, then run the program
[08:01] <brenner> Cryptid: yes, installing kde apps will probably install the kde libraries it needs to run...you can then run them in any DE
[08:01] <HappyFool> charlesj: it's very easy; the file will have two lines: 'cd /path' and './crclient -u asdf'
[08:01] <percydaman> i could share it if someone wanted to take a look at it.  its about 47megs though
[08:01] <Lichte> anyone have an entry for sources.list for breezy-extra that works ??
[08:01] <charlesj> happyfool: and then call that file in the launcher?
[08:01] <deFrysk> percydaman, lemmesee , a sec
[08:01] <masterloki> Where can I download the man pages for development (i.e. man strcmp says it doesn't exist)
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: yip. make sure to mark it executable (chmod a+x myscript.sh)
[08:02] <dalamar> what day does the breezy preview come out?
[08:02] <segphault> I'm thinking about upgrading from hoary to breezy. Is breezy stable enough for regular use on a desktop system?
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: you can also set executable from nautilus (the gnome file explorer)
[08:02] <HappyFool> dalamar: i think it might already be out (?)
[08:02] <charlesj> happyfool: thanks mate. i'll go and try it
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: cool. good luck
[08:03] <dalamar> oh really wow
[08:03] <brenner> segfault: iirc, no.
[08:03] <brenner> segphault rather
[08:03] <billy> Cryptid: from within Nautilus click on "Places" on the menu, then select "CD/DVD" creator
[08:03] <HappyFool> masterloki: it's manpages-dev
[08:03] <sj1> Im trying to install ndiswrapper But the wiki for that ive found is not functioning, anyone know a good source of info for me, or the order I want to use to get it working perhaps?
[08:03] <Cryptid> thanx Brenner and deFrysk
[08:03] <topyli> dalamar: it was released at the same time when the new gnome was released again
[08:03] <topyli> dalamar: seems to be a tradition
[08:03] <Cryptid> thanx billy
[08:04] <percydaman> deFrysk: do you want me to try and send it?
[08:04] <svizzero> anyone knows how to start a program automatically after kde started?
[08:04] <segphault> anybody here using breezy?
[08:04] <Lichte> is there a repo for breezy-extra ?
[08:04] <billy> Cryptid: your welcome :)
[08:04] <Lichte> segfault, I am
[08:04] <metis> can someone help me with apache??
[08:05] <metis> need to migrate IIS to apache
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, I am getting the trial now
[08:05] <segphault> Lichte: how is it?
[08:05] <percydaman> really..you found a trial?
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, its a .bin so I'll see
[08:05] <HappyFool> metis: you still on windows?
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, not sure if its for linux tho
[08:05] <Lichte> segfault, it's very nice
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, its 155 megs so probably all known osses
[08:05] <metis> still on the hard drive but its not running right now happy
[08:06] <sergio> Hay alguien qe hable espaol?? Who can speak spanish??
[08:06] <HappyFool> metis: so you're on ubuntu now?
[08:06] <metis> yuppers
[08:06] <brenner> !es
[08:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:06] <deFrysk> percydaman, takes about 10 minutes
[08:06] <Lichte> segfault, but if you change the line for hoary-extra to breezy-extra, it doesn't work
[08:06] <percydaman> interesting.  i had assumed it was just macOS trial
[08:06] <topyli> segphault: very few problems with breezy
[08:06] <HappyFool> metis: well, try installing apache and copying the site across; see what happens
[08:06] <deFrysk> percydaman, real;y no clu but looking at the size , could be more then one
[08:06] <metis> links to pictures on iis are for ex... c:\inetpub\images\*.jpg    will these links not work when i change to apache??
[08:07] <percydaman> your prolly right
[08:07] <segphault> Lichte & topyli: thx
[08:07] <HappyFool> metis: no, those won't work
[08:07] <Lichte> segfault, welcome
[08:07] <HappyFool> metis: maybe you can use a text editor to search-and-replace them ?
[08:07] <charlesj> happyfool: it worked!
[08:07] <HappyFool> charlesj: great :)
[08:07] <shawnz> hmm. I'm having trouble compiling transset-df on ubuntu
[08:07] <Lichte> topyli, do yo have a repo for breezy-extra in your sources.list ?
[08:07] <shawnz> anyone done it before?
[08:07] <charlesj> happyfool: thanks again
[08:07] <HappyFool> no problem
[08:08] <darknature> how do i change the GDM theme and splash screen?
[08:08] <HappyFool> darknature: system -> admin -> login screen setup
[08:08] <shawnz> System > Administration > login screen
[08:08] <metis> i was hoping i could somehow may my current iis .... without messing with my links
[08:08] <shawnz> splash screen i dunno though.
[08:08] <topyli> Lichte: no, i don't seem to
[08:08] <metis> map my IIS
[08:09] <Lichte> topyli, ok
[08:09] <shawnz> anyone compiled transset-df on ubuntu before?
[08:09] <darknature> ok thanks
[08:09] <brenner> darknature: splashscreen: install gtweakui
[08:09] <HappyFool> metis: i suspect that will be hard to do. are absolute links like that a good idea anyway?
[08:09] <svizzero> anyone knows how to start a program automatically after kde started?
[08:10] <vern401> which yahoo messsanger should I use in breezy?
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> gaim
[08:10] <xerox> Hi.
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> kopete
[08:10] <topyli> vern401: gaim
[08:10] <metis> im pretty new to this ... not sure if im going about it the right way
[08:10] <vern401> ok TY
[08:10] <chavo> svizzero: you can either put a script\.desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:10] <svizzero> thx
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> metis, Im sure she likes you for who you are ;)~
[08:11] <chavo> or have the program running when you log out, it will save your session
[08:11] <xerox> Do you know where Firefox gets which application use to open a certain type of file?  I can't find a way to convince it to open pdfs with evince instead of xpdf.  I found a mime types directory... but I can't really understand how to hijack the process :-)
[08:11] <HappyFool> metis: my impression is that it's best to have relative links in html, if possible
[08:11] <metis> white what are you trying to say?
[08:12] <Lichte> so no one here has a line for breezy-extra in their sources.list ?!
[08:12] <brenner> xerox: iirc, uses the app specified in nautilus' properties -> open with......could be something in FF's prefs though
[08:12] <topyli> xerox: link xpdf to evince and move xpdf to xpdf.real :)
[08:12] <xerox> brenner: I'll search in nautilus, good idea.
[08:12] <cute_bettong> anyone know if point2play is broken in breezy?
[08:12] <darknature> so no one knows how to install the splash screen?
[08:13] <brenner> xerox: right click a pdf file > properties > open with tab
[08:13] <enyc> cute: no idea, what a point2play anyway [?] 
[08:13] <cute_bettong> it's a compatibility layer to play windows games in linux
[08:13] <pedrobest> hello all. i am a newish user of linux and irc and i need some help gaining root privileges in kubuntu. i think that in irc you can talk individually - could someone start an individual session with me or shall i talk to the group?
[08:13] <cute_bettong> at least thats my understanding of it
[08:13] <brenner> darknature: you mean the one at desktop load?
[08:14] <Trebz> Could anyone possibly tell me what I need in order to be able to connect to a VPN in Ubuntu?  I need to connect to both a cisco VPN and a windows VPN
[08:14] <dalamar> cute_bettong, i'd suggest #cedega if anyone's alive in there
[08:14] <charlesj> darknature: go to applications>system tools>COnfiguration Editor
[08:14] <darknature> k thanks
[08:14] <percydaman> pedrobest: have you created a root password?
[08:14] <charlesj> darknature: select apps>gnome-session>options
[08:14] <topyli> dalamar: they're probably all chatting through their game interfaces :)
[08:15] <xerox> brenner: nautilus does open .pdf files with evince.
[08:15] <dalamar> heh
[08:15] <charlesj> darknature: edit the splash_image key to point to the file you want
[08:15] <darknature> and i just replace the splash file?
[08:15] <cute_bettong> speaking of splash screens and such i went to gnome-look.org and downloaded a bunch of stuff now how do i install it?
[08:15] <topyli> dalamar: with shotguns!
[08:15] <pedrobest> apparently the kubuntu install disables the root account and gives the first created account sudo / su privalige
[08:15] <HappyFool> !root
[08:15] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:15] <cute_bettong> actually no one seems to have herd of breezy yet in #cedega
[08:15] <deFrysk> cute_bettong, its explained in art.gnome.org
[08:15] <koploper> pedrobest: talk to the group, that way some other readers (like me) can learn to
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> pedrobest,  thats how ubuntu works.
[08:15] <dalamar> pedrobest, all ubuntu installs do this
[08:16] <brenner> xerox: ok then...you tried the file types sections in FF's prefs?
[08:16] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to install stuff from gnomelook.org?
[08:16] <pedrobest> yeah i kown but i need root and it wont work
[08:16] <deFrysk> cute_bettong, its explained in art.gnome.org
[08:16] <enyc> pedr: do "sudo su -" to become root temporarially
[08:16] <cute_bettong> thanx
[08:16] <percydaman> pedrobest:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root
[08:16] <HappyFool> just 'sudo -s' will work
[08:16] <enyc> pedr: generally, just do "sudo <command>" to run as root
[08:16] <topyli> pedrobest: why do you need root?
[08:17] <pedrobest> i need root to set up wlan and user account for a family pc. but sudo -s
[08:17] <pedrobest> doesnt work
[08:17] <HappyFool> sudo -s doesn't work? what's the error?
[08:17] <pedrobest> it cant find the /public/something dir
[08:18] <heke> can someone say the link to ubuntu package shearch page ?
[08:18] <pedrobest> my install seem to not have a /public dir - is that not odd
[08:18] <shawnz> heke, use synaptic
[08:18] <dalamar> there is no public dir in /
[08:18] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i don't have a /public dir and sudo -s works fine
[08:18] <topyli> pedrobest: not at all
[08:18] <xerox> brenner: I can't understand how to change it in FF's prefs.
[08:18] <brenner> heke: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <HappyFool> pedrobest: how did you install ubuntu? normal, server, expert ?
[08:18] <pedrobest> that alight then
[08:18] <heke> thanks
[08:18] <topyli> pedrobest: but if you want one, create it
[08:19] <pedrobest> i installed kubuntu from the install cd
[08:19] <brenner> xerox: what don't you get?
[08:19] <pedrobest> normal
[08:19] <percydaman> yeah theres a command to create a root password, but i cant remember it
[08:19] <dalamar> sudo passwd root
[08:19] <topyli> pasaswd :)
[08:19] <topyli> passwd even
[08:19] <pedrobest> yes but i cant gain any sudo privileges
[08:19] <HappyFool> pedrobest: are you on kubuntu now ?
[08:19] <oolon> passwd root
[08:19] <darknature> hmm do i replace the splash file with the new one?
[08:20] <darknature> because im still confused on how to set the keys
[08:20] <pedrobest> im on my other xp [yuck]  pc
[08:20] <fanskapet> timestamps = ON
[08:20] <fanskapet> agh.
[08:20] <HappyFool> pedrobest: can the other machine access the internet?
[08:20] <percydaman> deFrysk:  still downloading?  Im at 75%
[08:20] <pedrobest> not yet - i need root privileges to run kwifimanager
[08:20] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. ok, can you tell us the exact error of 'sudo ls' ?
[08:20] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo kwifimanager?
[08:20] <LethAL-Rocks> ah
[08:20] <brenner> xerox: edit > prefs > downloads on left > file types section
[08:21] <deFrysk> percydaman, dont work
[08:21] <HappyFool> pedrobest: and does it ask you for a password before it fails, or not?
[08:21] <pedrobest> ill just go check - back in a sec
[08:21] <percydaman> its mac?
[08:21] <deFrysk> .dmg
[08:21] <deFrysk> whatthat /
[08:21] <brenner> darknature: like i said, gtweakui....it's a nice frontend to gconf configs
[08:21] <xerox> brenner: that list is empty.  And the change/remove buttons aren't clickable :(
[08:21] <percydaman> lol i have no idea what .dmg is
[08:22] <percydaman> it must be mac based
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> It is
[08:22] <emilio> p
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> afaik it's like an iso
[08:22] <lemur> .dmg is a disk image
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[08:22] <brenner> xerox: hmmm...but clicking on a pdf file opens the app you don't want?
[08:22] <percydaman> ahhh..for mac?
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> ya
[08:22] <lemur> that for some reason is what all installable software comes in the form of
[08:22] <percydaman> damn
[08:22] <deFrysk> oh I have to burn it hehe
[08:22] <lemur> at least, when you download it
[08:22] <h17m4n> Is there a GUI ftp server that I could use on ubuntu?
[08:22] <deFrysk> righto
[08:23] <bytefoo> why are all my dvds interlaced in linux :|
[08:23] <lemur> MacOS will mount the dmg as a loopback device and put it on your desktop, then you drag and drop the program icon to install it
[08:23] <bytefoo> why i ask, why :(
[08:23] <lemur> it's ingeniously simple and horribly misguiding
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> yeah
[08:23] <xerox> brenner: (in firefox) exactly.
[08:23] <shawnz> anyone had any luck compiling transset-df here
[08:23] <brenner> bytefoo: what player?
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> I read something about uninstalling apps by dragging them off the dock
[08:23] <bytefoo> i've tried totem and gxine
[08:23] <percydaman> haha...damn apple
[08:23] <bytefoo> and both interlace :-/
[08:23] <brenner> bytefoo: there's a deinterlace option in totem
[08:23] <lemur> you can remove things from the dock by dragging them off of it, but I don't know about uninstalling if
[08:23] <bytefoo> and deinterlace is useless lol
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> n00bs should be on macs, geeks on linux distro's ;)
[08:23] <bytefoo> it does absolutely nothing brenner :/
[08:23] <deFrysk> and how does one burn a .dmg
[08:24] <LethAL-Rocks> dmg2iso
[08:24] <lemur> if by "uninstall" they mean "get it off the desktop", which is the same to a mac user
[08:24] <brenner> bytefoo: how can you tell anyway? :)
[08:24] <heke> what is the  bzlib devel package
[08:24] <lemur> burn a .dmg?  I don't know if that's necessary
[08:24] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:24] <brenner> bytefoo: do you get corruption?
[08:24] <lemur> but if you want to, I don't know how :(
[08:24] <bytefoo> by the lines everywhere lol
[08:24] <Lichte> does anyone using breezy have a breezy-extra repo in sources.list ?
[08:24] <bytefoo> the jagged edges, etc
[08:24] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[08:24] <bytefoo> the interlacing lol
[08:24] <heke> what is the  bzlib devel package
[08:24] <HappyFool> heke: libbz2-dev, at a guess
[08:24] <percydaman> deFrysk:  if its a mac image file, i doubt its meant to work on linux
[08:24] <HappyFool> heke: try 'apt-cache search' -- very useful for this sort of thing
[08:25] <brenner> xerox: hmm..searched the forum?  sorry...dunno what else
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm sure it (dmg2iso) is a python script, I just dunno where I saw it
[08:25] <xerox> brenner: thanks for the uspport, I'll search.
[08:25] <HappyFool> heke: also 'apt-get build-dep' -- even more useful for building apps
[08:25] <brenner> bytefoo: in my experience, that goes away in full screen
[08:25] <deFrysk> LethAL-Rocks, I'll find it
[08:25] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> :)
[08:25] <lemur> in linux, you might try mount -o loop -t ufs filename.dmg /mount/directory
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> could work
[08:25] <lemur> I have no idea what the file system is really...maybe something other than hfs
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> better with an iso :P
[08:25] <lemur> I wrote ufs by accident--I meant hfs
[08:25] <percydaman> looks like its a perl script
[08:25] <percydaman> i googled img2iso
[08:26] <Cryptid> Hey i am installing KDE core on my ubuntu do i have to configure my inter and other setting all over again coz i had a problem with Linuxes that run on Kde and the problem is that my Net dosent work
[08:26] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:26] <LethAL-Rocks> install it via synaptic
[08:26] <_lui_> hey people, how do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:26] <LethAL-Rocks> install it via synaptic
[08:26] <HappyFool> _lui_: please stop repeating yourself
[08:26] <Lichte> _lui_, upgrade to breezy
[08:26] <chavo> _lui_: keep repeating it over and over
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  kde shouldent be messing with your network
[08:26] <chavo> and it will come to you
[08:27] <pedrobest> here is exactly the result of sudo -s
[08:27] <pedrobest> sudo: unable to lookup family1 via gethostbyname()
[08:27] <pedrobest> Password: postdrop  warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[08:27] <pedrobest> family1 is the name of the pc. there might have been a : after postdrop
[08:27] <Cryptid> DR_Willis are u sure bout that coz i dont want to end up reinstalling my Ubuntu all over again
[08:27] <LethAL-Rocks> If I go for KDE, can I uninstall everything with gnome in the name/desc?
[08:27] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hrm
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone?
[08:28] <chavo> LethAL-Rocks: yes
[08:28] <shawnz> LethAL-Rocks, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop scraps gnome
[08:28] <chavo> you can uninstall gnome
[08:28] <HappyFool> pedrobest: sounds like networking is screwed-up, but i'm not sure how, or why sudo is involved
[08:28] <shawnz> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gets kde
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  installing kubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu system will not affect yoru networking.. if it does.. thers some bug going on.
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I know I can uninstall gnome
[08:28] <darknature> ok where do i got to replace the .png file that does the splash screen?
[08:28] <shawnz> it also adds/removes all the applications that come with it
[08:28] <chombee> Hello, very sorry someone was explaining this to me earlier and I had to leave - is Beagle installed by default in Breezy? There is some Search & Indexing thing...
[08:28] <lemur> can I do atp-get install freebsd?
[08:28] <cdc> hello roomies
[08:28] <shawnz> rofl
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[08:28] <shawnz> freebsd isnt even linux lemur
[08:28] <cdc> can i ask something?
[08:28] <pedrobest> happyfool: how can networking be involved?
[08:29] <LethAL-Rocks> let's hope no-one asks for apt-get install windows
[08:29] <lemur> me too
[08:29] <brenner> shawnz: really? i thought removing ubuntu-desktop just removes a metapackage. that's it.
[08:29] <HappyFool> pedrobest: that gethostbyname() call
[08:29] <chavo> lemur: apt-get install clue
[08:29] <cdc> f
[08:29] <brenner> i.e. leaves gnome
[08:29] <shawnz> brenner, yes. but
[08:29] <Cryptid> DR_Willis i have kubuntu Live disc can u help me configure my internet settings on it i will tell u what my internet setting are
[08:29] <wold> how do I know which sound driver I should choose.. in alsaconfig?
[08:29] <shawnz> it takes all the other packages with it.
[08:29] <pedrobest> happyfool: any ideas?
[08:29] <cdc> do the breeze badger
[08:29] <brenner> shawnz: er, doubt it....
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  i have no CLUE what sort of internet connection you are using.
[08:29] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i need some more info; are you next to the other computer?
[08:29] <chombee> brenner, shawnz - removing the meta-package should not remove any real packages
[08:29] <darknature> what folders in the file system has the splash screen .png?
[08:30] <brenner> shawnz: i've seen people ask about removing ubuntu-desktop when other packages ask to. they still have their gnome desktop after
[08:30] <pedrobest> happyfool: it only just downstairs
[08:30] <cdc> what window emulator you use for breezy badger?
[08:30] <Cryptid> my ip is 10.0.0.203 subnet is 255.255.255.0 gate way is 10.0.0.1 and Preferred DNS is 10.0.0.1 now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:30] <brenner> chombee: thought so....so how does one remove gnome?
[08:30] <Cryptid> Dr_Willis my ip is 10.0.0.203 subnet is 255.255.255.0 gate way is 10.0.0.1 and Preferred DNS is 10.0.0.1 now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:30] <cdc> what window emulator you use for breezy badger?
[08:30] <shawnz> window emulator? O.o
[08:30] <brenner> there a echo in here?
[08:31] <cdc> to run games on linux
[08:31] <charlesj> cryptid: go to system>administration>networking
[08:31] <chombee> shawnz: it seems advisable to keep the meta-package though, if Ubuntu wanted to add a new default app or something they'd probably stick it in the metapackage as an update
[08:31] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. ok, i'll try to give you a list of commands to run
[08:31] <cdc> to run games on linux
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  go to the menus and  run the network config tool and enter the #'s  would be about what you need to do. I dont have the exactt layout of the live cd memorized
[08:31] <shawnz> chombee say that to kde apps and installing them without kubuntu-desktop then.
[08:31] <Cryptid> Charlesj i have done that but it dosent work on kubuntu
[08:31] <brenner> cdc: cedega....now hush.
[08:31] <chombee> brenner - hmmm... another package, don't know what, or you can do a server install and never put gnome there in the first place, that works well
[08:31] <cdc> thanks
[08:31] <cdc> brenner
[08:31] <HappyFool> pedrobest: 1. 'hostname' (should show 'family1'); 2. 'grep family1 /etc/hosts' (should, but probably won't, show '127.0.0.1   localhost family1')
[08:32] <Cryptid> ok wait i will try what u said DR_Willis
[08:32] <charlesj> cryptid: i dont use kubuntu. so not sure what it looks like there
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: try also 'ping family1' -- that should fail
[08:32] <shawnz> agh, stupid transset-df
[08:32] <cdc> anyone hera acomputer shop owner using linux box?
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: the failure should be 'ping: unknown host family1'
[08:32] <chombee> shawnz - what do you mean?
[08:32] <shawnz> chombee it wont compile
[08:32] <oolon> Cryptid, i use kubuntu what are you try to do
[08:32] <Cryptid> charlesj my net works fine on ubuntu but not on kubuntu thats my whole problem
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: can you try those, please?
[08:32] <chombee> shawnz - what won't compile?
[08:33] <Lichte> will there be a breezy-extra when breezy is released ?
[08:33] <pedrobest> happyfool: sure back in a sec
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  you mean the Ubuntu LIVE cd.. vs the Kubuntu Live cd?
[08:33] <deFrysk> ik stop ermee
[08:33] <Cryptid> oolon help me configure my internet on kubuntu
[08:33] <deFrysk> I'mm off
[08:33] <deFrysk> pc goes off here
[08:33] <andre_r> hey, how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[08:33] <Cryptid> Yes Dr_Willis
[08:33] <brenner> Cryptid: #kubuntu
[08:33] <shawnz> chombee, transset-df.
[08:33] <inva|id> what is the next release, after breezy, going to be names
[08:33] <darknature> anyone know where to go to replace the logon splash screen?
[08:33] <oolon> look in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  then ya should be stating so. :P     people are assuming you mean an installed to hd system.
[08:33] <vanberge> darknature, if using gnome, use configuration editor
[08:33] <darknature> i went there
[08:34] <chombee> oh, dependencies?
[08:34] <Cryptid> oolon check on top i gave my internet settings how do i configure them on kubuntu
[08:34] <cdc> kubuntu is breezy badger right?
[08:34] <shawnz> cdc, um
[08:34] <shawnz> no
[08:34] <darknature> i don't understand about the keys
[08:34] <vanberge> here, i'll find it....
[08:34] <cdc> i tot so
[08:34] <brenner> gtweakui
[08:34] <shawnz> chombee: dunno, but it errors during make.
[08:34] <nik> GUYS
[08:34] <vanberge> darknature, hold on just a sec.
[08:34] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[08:34] <darknature> where do i excract this splash screen file?
[08:34] <chombee> shawnz - what is the error message?
[08:34] <nik> How do I get a media player to actually work in Ubuntu?
[08:34] <shawnz> there are tonnes.
[08:34] <Cryptid> oolon my ip is 10.0.0.203 subnet is 255.255.255.0 gate way is 10.0.0.1 and Preferred DNS is 10.0.0.1 now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:34] <HappyFool> cdc: there'll be a ubuntu and kubuntu breezy badger releases; i think the previews were released on the same day
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !mplayer
[08:34] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:34] <brenner> ubotu: tell nik about restricted
[08:34] <bobbyd> hi
[08:35] <chombee> shawnz - then take the first one..
[08:35] <cdc> happyfool whats the difference among those two?
[08:35] <vanberge> darknature, configuration editor > apps > gnome session > splash_image
[08:35] <bobbyd> does anyone know of a good guide for setting up smtp auth with postfix under ubuntu?
[08:35] <shawnz> brenner, its a bot.
[08:35] <dijungal> hello
[08:35] <shawnz> :/
[08:35] <dijungal> what has mad ubuntu such a popular distro
[08:35] <HappyFool> cdc: one comes with gnome, the other with kde (different graphical environments); however, they use the same underlying system software
[08:35] <vanberge> darknature, sorry... you have to go under 'options' under gnome-session...
[08:35] <dijungal> i am looking to move over to linux but i am looking for a good distro
[08:35] <enyc> diju: im not sure ;p
[08:36] <darknature> yeah i went there
[08:36] <LethAL-Rocks> dijungal, maybe Ubuntu ;)
[08:36] <cdc> sorry happyfool an a first time user of linux
[08:36] <enyc> diju: I suggest you play with  ubuntu when its' formally released as breezy  next-month
[08:36] <vanberge> dijungal, ease of use...   vast array of software available
[08:36] <cdc> and want to learn more of it
[08:36] <HappyFool> cdc: not a problem at all
[08:36] <darknature> i just need to know where to extract this .png file
[08:36] <bobbyd> dijungal, I think ubuntu would be a good first distro, it's easy top install and it has up top date software
[08:36] <Hoxzer> :E
[08:36] <dijungal> mepis i thought was "the one" ... but i just looked at distrowatch and ubuntu is topping the charts.. so i am having second thoughts
[08:36] <nik> Linux is really starting to tick me off.
[08:36] <bytefoo> yesss.... vlc to the rescue
[08:36] <vanberge> dijungal, solid foundation for advance users
[08:36] <bytefoo> why :/
[08:36] <HappyFool> cdc: you may find more information on www.ubuntu.com -- try also wiki.ubuntu.com. You are also welcome to ask questions here.
[08:36] <dijungal> is ubuntu based on debian...?
[08:36] <shawnz> aha chombee
[08:36] <bobbyd> nik, how so?
[08:36] <vanberge> nik, why?
[08:36] <enyc> diju: yes, basically
[08:36] <cdc> thanks happfool
[08:36] <bobbyd> dijungal, yes
[08:36] <dijungal> nice.. :)
[08:37] <shawnz> it cant find 'xcomposite.pc'
[08:37] <dijungal> debian is solid
[08:37] <Tomcat_> dijungal: mepis is supposed to be good as well, you should really try out more distros and then take the one you like.
[08:37] <pedrobest> happyfool: ok - .1 - failed correctly .2 - no etc/hosts dir .3 - failed correctly
[08:37] <nik> Why can't it just come ready to play any type of media?
[08:37] <Hoxzer> strange windows whines I have too less space in my fat32 partition and when I check it I have 30 GB's left
[08:37] <oolon> Cryptid, look here scroll about midway to Configuring network http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html
[08:37] <nik> I don't KNOW how do do things with the command line.
[08:37] <shawnz> nik, because its linux.
[08:37] <nik> Yeah.
[08:37] <nik> That's rediculous.
[08:37] <nik> :(
[08:37] <shawnz> if you're use to everything being done for you, go windows.
[08:37] <HappyFool> pedrobest: 1 failed ? what did 'hostname' say ?
[08:37] <patric> has anyone also problems with hotplug?
[08:37] <darknature> so where do I extract this .png file to make the splash work?
[08:37] <bobbyd> nik, because some kinds of media are proprietary
[08:37] <nik> It's an MPEG
[08:37] <shawnz> darknature, anywhere.
[08:37] <enyc> nik: usually because of the silly licensing problems with media you may be referring to
[08:37] <oolon> Cryptid, it gives example cinfig
[08:37] <Tomcat_> dijungal: I think Ubuntu is so popular because of the community and the procedures between the people... it's easy to get help, it's easy to do things, it's easy to interact.
[08:37] <pedrobest> happyfool: no sorry it did what you said it should
[08:37] <bobbyd> nik, if the open source world propogate closed formats, they become more popular
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, in that case it should work
[08:38] <nik> and on BOTH mediaplayers can't play it.
[08:38] <dijungal> tomcat:ok.. that can be true
[08:38] <Cryptid> oolon thanx i will read this stuff
[08:38] <darknature> ok the file's name is ubuntu-smooth-splash.png
[08:38] <enyc> whats a ''BOTH'' mediaplayers?
[08:38] <darknature> what do i type in the value keys?
[08:38] <nik> Kaffiene and Totem
[08:38] <darknature> just the name of the file?
[08:38] <oolon> Cryptid, your trying to use a gateway or static ip?
[08:38] <HappyFool> pedrobest: did you type 'grep family1 etc/hosts' or 'grep family1 /etc/hosts' ?
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, in that case it's possibly not a valid file, have you tried it under windows?
[08:38] <oolon> you're*
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, have you tested other media files
[08:38] <nik> Yes, it works there.
[08:38] <nik> Yes, no media works.
[08:38] <nik> Except MP3
[08:38] <pedrobest> happyfool: not sure ill do it again
[08:39] <bobbyd> nik, bu the way, windows media player doesn't play most of the files I try to play on it, so it's not just a linux problem
[08:39] <enyc> Try installing   XINE, VLC, Mplayer  ??
[08:39] <shawnz> chombee?
[08:39] <HappyFool> pedrobest: the second one is correct
[08:39] <Tomcat_> dijungal: I have tried SuSE, Mandrake, Debian and Ubuntu... and Ubuntu just had the right feeling to it, and it was the first distro that got me away from Windows.
[08:39] <Cryptid> i have a static ip and the gateway is 10.0.0.1
[08:39] <enyc> What media formats exactly you havging trouble with?
[08:39] <HappyFool> pedrobest: if you have no /etc/hosts file, something is (very?) wrong
[08:39] <Cryptid> oolon i have a static ip and the gateway is 10.0.0.1
[08:39] <dijungal> tomcat: ok well i'll look at the livecd again
[08:40] <Tomcat_> dijungal: Yeah, do that. :)
[08:40] <nik> "There are no decoders found to handle the stream."
[08:40] <Cryptid> oolon my ip add is 10.0.0.203
[08:40] <shawnz> sigh
[08:40] <dijungal> thanx folks
[08:40] <shawnz> Cryptid, we HEARD you
[08:40] <enyc> nik: what format media file  did you mean ?
[08:40] <pedrobest> happyfool: sorry i had done it wrong, but when i did it this time nothing happend it just gave me another command line
[08:40] <nik> .mpeg
[08:40] <bobbyd> nik, sounds like a dodgy file. install mplayer
[08:40] <nik> how do I do that? ;-;
[08:41] <shawnz> vlc to win. comes with tonnes of codecs
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok, for some reason your hostname is not in the /etc/hosts file
[08:41] <Cryptid> oolon the link u gave me is for ubuntu rite but i need help for kubuntu
[08:41] <lemur> apt-get install mplayer
[08:41] <nik> k
[08:41] <shawnz> Cryptid, they are the same?
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: this is *probably* the problem, but i'm not completely sure
[08:41] <bobbyd> nik, "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[08:41] <chombee> shawnz - I'm afriad I don't know anything about xcomposite.pc
[08:41] <shawnz> :(
[08:41] <lemur> bobbyd: nice save
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: to fix this you'll need to boot the machine into rescue mode -- do you know how to do that?
[08:41] <bobbyd> lemur, no problem :)
[08:41] <darknature> how do i get permission to write to a folder?
[08:41] <Cryptid> shawnz ok is it but the 2 diffrent interface confuse me a lot
[08:41] <spike> hello
[08:41] <nik> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[08:41] <shawnz> Cryptid because one is KDE and one is GNOME
[08:41] <chombee> shawnz - go to the mailing list etc for the thing you're trying to compile
[08:41] <shawnz> theres a bit of a difference
[08:42] <pedrobest> happyfool: no im afraid
[08:42] <bobbyd> Crimguy, join #kubuntu
[08:42] <darkheart> !tell nik about repositories
[08:42] <bobbyd> Cryptid, , join #kubuntu
[08:42] <AdmiralCrunch> Alright, dist-upgrade finished, I am gonna restart, wish me luck
[08:42] <darknature> it won't let me drag anything to the /urs/share/pxmaps/splash
[08:42] <lemur> We need a new game plan
[08:42] <enyc> though, mplayer is in the 'multiverse' repository, and seemingly only in breezy
[08:42] <enyc> maught be in backports, or hoary-extras or somethign
[08:42] <enyc> nik: which ubuntu release/version are you using?
[08:42] <cdc> !nick
[08:42] <ubotu> cdc: What?
[08:42] <anaccount> Is there a way where I am able to reset my ftp password
[08:42] <shawnz> chombee: there is none
[08:43] <cdc> !tell ubotu huh>? i dont have any questions yet
[08:43] <darknature> anyone know how to get permission to write to a folder?
[08:43] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok, it's not too hard. you need to press ESC just before ubuntu boots -- this is after your bios is finished. I *think* there's a prompt telling you to press ESC for a boot menu
[08:43] <bobbyd> lemur, is that terminology from your american football?
[08:43] <chombee> shawnz - is there no kind of contact for these people?
[08:43] <HappyFool> pedrobest: choose the 'recovery mode' or 'rescue' mode option, and press enter
[08:43] <chavo> darknature: you can change the splashscreen path in gconf-editor
[08:43] <cdc> !nick m
[08:43] <ubotu> cdc: Not a clue
[08:43] <pedrobest> HappyFool: ok then ill give it a go
[08:43] <HappyFool> pedrobest: you have an idea of what i'm taking about?
[08:43] <enyc> niz: in any case...  mplayer-586  is the mpalyer backage in  hoary [which is probably what you have] 
[08:43] <cdc> can you guys kick ubotu
[08:43] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hang on ;)
[08:43] <enyc> nik even... you awake ;-)
[08:43] <HappyFool> cdc: eh?
[08:44] <darknature> ahh ok
[08:44] <cdc> a bot
[08:44] <HiddenFly> how can i run a game at the same time with teamspeak? i have disabled voice recording for the game and killed esd but still no luck
[08:44] <HappyFool> !botsnack
[08:44] <ubotu> :)
[08:44] <HappyFool> cdc: he's a tame bot
[08:44] <anaccount> is there a way I can reset my ftp password???????
[08:44] <cdc> i dont get happyfool
[08:44] <pedrobest> HappyFool: only thing is im using grub - do you wnat be to go into the grub options?
[08:44] <chombee> ubotu - are you a bot?
[08:44] <HappyFool> pedrobest: yes
[08:44] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, chombee
[08:44] <HappyFool> !ubotu
[08:44] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[08:44] <chombee> ubotu - are you a bot?
[08:44] <cdc> type !nick
[08:45] <cdc> unto will answer you
[08:45] <cdc> ubotu will answer you
[08:45] <ubotu> cdc: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:45] <chombee> sorry ubotu
[08:45] <anaccount> happyfool
[08:45] <shawnz> :/
[08:45] <nik> Ok, I have all of those things in my sources list and it doesnt work, still.
[08:45] <HappyFool> pedrobest: choose the rescue mode in the grub menu
[08:45] <anaccount> i got a question
[08:45] <cdc> ubotu cdc: Do they come in packets of five?(i dont know what this guy is sayin
[08:45] <ubotu> that's too long, cdc
[08:45] <chombee> it appears to be a person
[08:45] <HappyFool> pedrobest: that will put you into a shell, as root
[08:45] <shawnz> chombee its a bot.
[08:46] <anaccount> im currently running a website and I forgot my ftp password
[08:46] <cdc> be back soon for more questions thanks
[08:46] <shawnz> rofl
[08:46] <h17m4n> how do I run the GUI of pureftpd?
[08:46] <shawnz> gui?
[08:46] <HappyFool> pedrobest: you need to edit the /etc/hosts file; you can use the editor 'nano'. Just type 'nano /etc/hosts'
[08:46] <QMario> Is Seveas here? :-/
[08:46] <grogoreo> hi
[08:46] <chombee> shawnz - no way! well it fooled me if it is
[08:46] <QMario> Hello Grogoreo!! :)
[08:47] <HappyFool> pedrobest: one of the lines should start with '127.0.0.1' and be followed by 'localhost.localdomain' and 'localhost'; you need to add 'family1' to that line
[08:47] <QMario> How do I use my modem in Ubuntu?
[08:47] <grogoreo> has anyone dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy?
[08:47] <HappyFool> pedrobest: there must be a space between 'localhost' and 'family1'
[08:47] <anaccount> Please answer me im kind of desperate at the moment
[08:47] <enyc> gmar: what do you mean modem?
[08:47] <HappyFool> pedrobest: then save the file, and try 'ping family1' again; it should now work
[08:47] <HappyFool> pedrobest: if it does, reboot and try sudo -s again
[08:47] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i hope that's clear
[08:47] <enyc> anaccount: this problem is between you and the administrator of the FTP-host...
[08:47] <Hostis> anyone that knows how to install Counter Strike HLDS server on Ubuntu ???
[08:47] <Hostis> anyone that knows how to install Counter Strike HLDS server on Ubuntu ???
[08:47] <QMario> eNYC, are you talking to me?
[08:48] <pedrobest> HappyFool: please could you write out what the lin in nano needs to say
[08:48] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok
[08:48] <enyc> qmar: oh yes, sorry
[08:48] <QMario> Enyc, I meant how do I use dial-up?
[08:48] <anaccount> enyc what should I do
[08:48] <enyc> qmar: what do you mean 'modem' ?
[08:48] <QMario> !Modem
[08:48] <ubotu> QMario: Are you smoking crack?
[08:48] <chombee> fooled by a bot, i'm so embarassed
[08:48] <HappyFool> pedrobest: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost family1
[08:48] <pedrobest> HappyFool: thanks
[08:48] <enyc> anac: talk to the admini~1 of the server for the ftp accoutn and get them to help you wiht your ftp-password ??
[08:48] <QMario> Enyc, SmartLink Modem to connect to the Internet in Ubuntu.
[08:48] <chombee> Seriously, what is this new Search & Indexing thing in Breezy? It doesn't do anything
[08:48] <QMario> !Dial-up
[08:48] <ubotu> QMario: I give up, what is it?
[08:48] <QMario> !Botsnack
[08:48] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[08:48] <enyc> qmar: hrrm... smartlink... I know there is slmodem support somewhere
[08:48] <anaccount> thanks alot
[08:49] <HappyFool> QMario: try /query ubotu and then 'help'
[08:49] <enyc> qmar: its a horrid 'software modem' thing iirc
[08:49] <enyc> qmar: I only use REAL modem cards that emulate a 16650A uart or a modem in the COM (serial) port that takes normal modem commands...  but anyway...
[08:49] <HappyFool> !info sl-modem-source
[08:49] <ubotu> sl-modem-source: (SmartLink software modem driver - module building source), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.9.9a-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 206 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[08:49] <HappyFool> that package has a readme that tells you how to compile the modem driver
[08:49] <enyc> qmar: erm... slmodem... never tried that I jut kno theres support for it..
[08:50] <QMario> Enyc, I do have a modem "card".
[08:50] <QMario> It is not integrated.
[08:50] <HappyFool> QMario: what model of modem? do you know?
[08:50] <enyc> qmar: indeed, and if its a smartlink thing, then it needs the  slmodem  suppror module/driver...
[08:50] <QMario> HappyFool, no.
[08:50] <nik> Is there any freaking way to update Kaffiene with all of the necessary plugins?
[08:50] <cdc> guys what version of cedega is compatible with the breeze badger
[08:50] <QMario> I am using Windows XP right now, since Ubuntu can't detect my modem.
[08:50] <enyc> qmar: because itis a modem that does not simulate a COM-port / AT-command-set,  it needs 'software help' to do all this
[08:51] <pedrobest> HappyFool: the line only contained 127.0.0.1 localhost . i added family1 to the end and pinged it but i didnt work. shall i add localhost.localdomain to the file.
[08:51] <HappyFool> QMario: i recommend http://linmodems.technion.ac.il; look for scanModems.gz
[08:51] <enyc> qmar: software modems are a pain-pain-pain ;-)
[08:51] <cdc> guys what version of cedega is compatible with the breeze badger
[08:51] <HappyFool> pedrobest: localhost.localdomain is not too important
[08:51] <bytefoo> how can i change which default application opens a file
[08:51] <enyc> qmar: do a "/sbin/lspci" -- what is mentioned r.e. your modem ??
[08:51] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. that is strange
[08:51] <nik> >_>
[08:51] <bytefoo> for instance, to have vlc open all video/dvds as opposed to totem :|
[08:51] <pedrobest> HappyFool: that line was the only thing the file contained
[08:52] <HappyFool> pedrobest: that's fine
[08:52] <pedrobest> HappyFool: what responce i needed
[08:52] <cdc> happyfool do you have your cedega
[08:52] <HappyFool> pedrobest: you're sure you saved the file? Also, could you try 'ping localhost'
[08:52] <nik> To install VLC, i type sudo apt-get install vlc, right?
[08:52] <HappyFool> cdc: sorry, no
[08:52] <djbrieck> hello
[08:52] <bytefoo> yes
[08:52] <QMario> Enyc, I am using Windows right now. I have a dual-boot system. This could take a while. :'(
[08:52] <enyc> nik: yes, assuming thats the package name and its in your sources
[08:52] <cdc> what version should i get?
[08:52] <pedrobest> HappyFool: ill have another look
[08:52] <enyc> qmar: heh..
[08:52] <HappyFool> pedrobest: one more thing
[08:52] <nik> What media players are in the default packages?
[08:53] <HappyFool> pedrobest: type 'ifconfig lo' -- the fourth line should start with UP
[08:53] <djbrieck> thinking about installing ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 8200, is this a good idea?
[08:53] <HappyFool> pedrobest: if it starts with DOWN something (different) is wrong
[08:53] <djbrieck> How is the support of laptop hardware?
[08:54] <cdc> !HappyFool
[08:54] <ubotu> cdc: What?
[08:54] <cdc> !
[08:54] <ubotu> cdc: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:54] <chombee> He's a bot!
[08:55] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, if I want to search for a module, how would I go about doing it?
[08:55] <NB_Ubuntu> specifically, I'm wanting to install myth, but apt-cache search didn't find anything..
[08:55] <pedrobest> HappyFool: umm - the forth line of ifconfig lo starts with TX
[08:56] <QMario> I think an operator has to include in the TOPIC that Ubotu is a robot. ;)
[08:56] <chombee> NB_Ubuntu - use synaptic package manager, gui
[08:56] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. ok, sorry, that means it's down
[08:56] <cute_bettong> how do i install a font?
[08:56] <chombee> What we really need is a bot to accuse others of being bots
[08:56] <andre_r> !
[08:56] <ubotu> andre_r: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:57] <andre_r> !ubuntu
[08:57] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[08:57] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i'm not sure that that is that important for sudo
[08:57] <cute_bettong> how do i install a font?
[08:57] <NB_Ubuntu> nothing is there... so how do I add a new area to download from?
[08:57] <pedrobest> HappyFool: sorry to be ignorant but could you explain why networking and the like has anything to do with sudo
[08:57] <NB_Ubuntu> or is there a good way of doing a search for it?
[08:58] <darkheart> !tell NB_Ubuntu about repositories
[08:58] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to install a font?
[08:58] <cute_bettong> !fonts
[08:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:58] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i don't know; i am trying to apply a sort of treating the symptoms approach. if sudo needs to find the 'family1' host, let's try to make that happen
[08:58] <chombee> NB_Ubuntu look up the 'adding repositories' page on the Ubuntu wiki
[08:58] <pedrobest> HappyFool: ok
[08:58] <haico> Ene goedeavond
[08:59] <chombee> !fonts
[08:59] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:59] <chombee> !Repositories
[08:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:59] <HappyFool> pedrobest: what error did the ping fail with ?
[08:59] <HappyFool> pedrobest: after you changed /etc/hosts
[08:59] <chombee> NB_Ubuntu - see what ubotu said
[08:59] <cute_bettong> ok i'm using breezy how do i install fonts?
[08:59] <chombee> cute_betting !fonts
[08:59] <pedrobest> HappyFool: connect: Network is unreachable
[09:00] <chombee> !fonts
[09:00] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:00] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok, so it resolved
[09:00] <chombee> see what ubotu said
[09:00] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i think you can try sudo again
[09:00] <darkheart> chombee Please stop playing with the bot.
[09:00] <cute_bettong> it's not for breezy but something diffrent
[09:00] <chombee> darkheart - but it's actually posting the wiki pages I want people to look at, it's useful!
[09:00] <HappyFool> pedrobest: you can try 'telinit 2' in the root shell
[09:00] <pedrobest> HappyFool: ok then back to kde. just for refernece what command reboots in the console?
[09:01] <ttyS0> how can i force running sh script itself on pc startup?
[09:01] <chombee> cute_bettong - I think Breezy will be the same as Hoary for fonts
[09:01] <darkheart> chombee I know what it does, but if you read your IRC log, you'll see that cute_bettong actually typed !fonts before you did.
[09:01] <HappyFool> pedrobest: um. you need to choose rescue mode in the grub menu
[09:01] <Truth> gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program as)
[09:01] <Truth> Please submit a full bug report.
[09:01] <Truth> See <URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
[09:01] <Truth> For Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions,
[09:01] <Truth> see <URL:file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-3.3/README.Bugs>.
[09:01] <Truth> make[1] : *** [s_conf.o]  Error 1
[09:01] <Truth> can anyone tell how to fix this?
[09:01] <cute_bettong> i'm using it now and i can't find the .fonts folder
[09:01] <HappyFool> Truth: please don't paste here
[09:01] <darkheart> Truth Don't paste here. Use #flood or pastebin
[09:01] <egytrack> how can i log as root ?
[09:01] <cute_bettong> i followed the instructions and it's not there
[09:01] <ttyS0> egytrack, use sudo
[09:01] <egytrack> changing file and config server for testing php scripts
[09:01] <HappyFool> !tell egytrack about root
[09:01] <darkheart> Truth And btw, that's not enough info to tell us anything useful.
[09:01] <cute_bettong> there is no folder in home/shane/ that is called .fonts
[09:02] <Truth> well darkheart thats the only error
[09:02] <chombee> cute_bettong - you have show hidden folders on?
[09:02] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:02] <darkheart> cute_bettong Then make the folder.
[09:02] <cute_bettong> is that ok to do?
[09:02] <darkheart> cute_bettong Yes.
[09:02] <egytrack> thanks
[09:02] <cute_bettong> it won't screw anything up?
[09:02] <cute_bettong> kk
[09:02] <HappyFool> Truth: please tell us what you are trying to achieve
[09:03] <Belutz> :)
[09:03] <darkheart> Truth Is there anything more that comes before the segfault?
[09:03] <bsharitt> Has the process of choosing the screen resolution been changed in Breezy?
[09:03] <chombee> cute_bettong - if you do screw it up, i suppose then you can just delete the folder again
[09:03] <pedrobest> HappyFool: do you mean i need to try sudo in the console im in now?
[09:03] <chombee> bsharitt - the gui looks the same to me
[09:03] <HappyFool> pedrobest: no, i want you to try it as a 'normal' user
[09:03] <Truth> HappyFool, trying to compile ircu
[09:04] <bsharitt> Warty always asked me my resolution, but Breezy just picked the horribly unacceptable  640x480 resolution with out even asking.
[09:04] <pedrobest> HappyFool: sorry - could you elaborate?
[09:04] <egytrack> is there is a free tutorial for ubuntu ?
[09:04] <chombee> bsharitt - you probably need a dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <thrush_2> egytrack, wiki =)
[09:04] <QMario> Does any one know how to set the class path for Java in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i mean, i want you to go to a normal runlevel with 'telinit 2' -- that should get you to a normal KDE login screen; login, and try 'sudo ls' and see if it now works
[09:05] <Betaflye> anyone running Breezy here?
[09:05] <darkheart> bsharitt What kind of vid card?
[09:05] <egytrack> wiki site is too slow .. !
[09:05] <bsharitt> chombee - I know how to fix it, but this seems like a big problem if this is the default
[09:05] <HappyFool> Truth: i see an ircd-ircu package in the repositories -- can you not use that instead?
[09:05] <egytrack> wiki i'm trying to load it ..
[09:05] <Truth> well
[09:05] <chombee> bsharitt - with Hoary, it only happened to some people, not sure if it's fixed yet or if it happens in Breezy
[09:06] <Truth> i want to have it compiled
[09:06] <bsharitt> darkheart - It's a Radeon 9250, so it uses(or is supposed to) the DRI drivers great.
[09:06] <an_ubuntu> QMario, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre
[09:06] <Truth> its a different version
[09:06] <HappyFool> Truth: otherwise, it appears that you have discovered a gcc bug; try changing the configuration options (does it use ./configure ?) or hack the Makefile
[09:06] <funkyHat> i just installed polypaudio, but i can't hear sounds from, say, pingus and xine at the same time... how can i fix this?
[09:06] <Truth> yeah HappyFool
[09:06] <Truth> it works
[09:06] <Truth> after that i need to make right
[09:06] <egytrack> how can i put files in www directory ?
[09:06] <chombee> How do I get the bot to respond to me privately? It just ignores me
[09:06] <QMario> An_ubuntu, !ubuntuguide.
[09:06] <funkyHat> chombee, register with nickserv
[09:06] <QMario> !ubuntuguide
[09:06] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[09:06] <darkheart> Truth You might try using a different version of gcc.
[09:06] <bsharitt> chombee - Hoary always worked fine for me, but breezy seems broken
[09:07] <darkheart> chombee Just msg the bot
[09:07] <Belutz> egytrack: in /var/www ?
[09:07] <Truth> darkheart, now installing all the versions availible :)
[09:07] <djbrieck> any one using this on a laptop?
[09:07] <egytrack> yes i could not change the premissons
[09:07] <darkheart> Truth Don't get too crazy with it =)
[09:07] <thrush_2> djbrieck, yes
[09:07] <Truth> hehe
[09:07] <Belutz> djbrieck: i run ubuntu in a laptop
[09:07] <Truth> darkheart, yeh
[09:07] <chombee> MSG ubotu private message
[09:07] <chombee> bah!
[09:08] <thrush_2> chombee, "/msg
[09:08] <djbrieck> Ok how do i check to see if my laptop will be supported?
[09:08] <darkheart> chombee Sorry, something like /msg ubotu !nvidia or something.
[09:08] <Belutz> egytrack: try copying/moving with sudo
[09:08] <funkyHat> darkheart, you drop the ! for /msgs ;)
[09:08] <HappyFool> no ! needed in ubotu's private chat (in fact, it doesn't work)
[09:08] <funkyHat> chombee,
[09:08] <thrush_2> djbrieck, try the livecd
[09:08] <funkyHat> /msg ubotu help
[09:09] <Belutz> djbrieck: you could test it using the ubuntu live cd
[09:09] <chombee> HappyFool, funkyHat, thanks
[09:09] <darkheart> like I said, something like /msg ubotu nvidia or something. =P
[09:09] <HappyFool> heh
[09:09] <funkyHat> :P
[09:09] <chombee> what a handy little bot
[09:09] <andresh> hello
[09:10] <cdc> how could you he's handy?
[09:10] <cdc> how could you say he's handy?
[09:10] <kevogod> he is handy
[09:10] <HappyFool> very!
[09:10] <kevogod> !tell cdc about ubotu
[09:10] <Belutz> yup, ubotu is helpfull :)
[09:10] <funkyHat> becuse you can do that
[09:11] <funkyHat> XD
[09:11] <djbrieck> is the live CD the way to go?  I have the most trouble with power manganement and opening a closing the lid, with most other unixs/ linuns that i have tried
[09:11] <egytrack> how i can end tasks ?
[09:12] <cdc> hha nice dialogue you got
[09:12] <jc-denton> hi all
[09:12] <jc-denton> i've a spimple question
[09:12] <andresh> hi
[09:12] <djbrieck> So for those who do have laptops what kind do you have? And how is powemangment handled wiht ubuntu?
[09:13] <jc-denton> i run debian atm, but like to try out the new ubuntu rc
[09:13] <chombee> JC - Yes, UMANCO is a conspiracy
[09:13] <Belutz> djbrieck: i also still have problem with suspend to disk and suspend to ram
[09:13] <jc-denton> so can i install it on just one other partition
[09:13] <chombee> UNAMCO
[09:13] <jc-denton> will it be able to use the same swap parition and not fuck up my mbr and so
[09:14] <Belutz> !tell djbrieck about laptop
[09:14] <thrush_2> djbrieck, toshiba s127 no real problems
[09:14] <djbrieck> Belutz can you set the system to do nothing on close of the lid
[09:14] <Belutz> djbrieck: you could try to see the website link ubotu just told you
[09:14] <jc-denton> chombee: u mean unatco?
[09:14] <Belutz> djbrieck: hmmm i never try it
[09:14] <jc-denton> or something like this?
[09:15] <darkheart> jc-denton I don't think you would have a problem. Just make sure you make the Ubuntu partition bootable during setup and don't install the bootloader or you overwrite your current mbr.
[09:15] <HappyFool> jc-denton: 1) you can install ubuntu on 1 partition 2) should be able to share swap partitions 3) if you use expert install, at least, you can choose not to install ubuntu's grub, and thereby avoid overwriting the mbr
[09:15] <Belutz> djbrieck: btw, what laptop are you using?
[09:15] <jc-denton> ok
[09:15] <pedrobest> HappyFool: thanks very much - i now seem to be able to set up my kwifi but im not sure about some other things - when i go into the k control center and click on administor mode it claims it loading but doesnt. also su - then my password doesnt seem to work
[09:15] <hhurtta> help me guys, I can't remember the name of the release before hoary
[09:15] <HappyFool> pedrobest: su - won't work until you set a root password
[09:16] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i recommend just using 'sudo -s' for now; effectively the same thing
[09:16] <thrush_2> hhurtta, warty
[09:16] <chombee> hhurtta - I think it was Bloaty or something
[09:16] <Betaflye> hhurtta, warty warthog
[09:16] <hhurtta> thrush_2: that was it, thanks
[09:16] <pedrobest> HappyFool: so when i use that kubuntu will think i am root for 15 mins?
[09:16] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i'm not very familiar with kde, so i'm not too sure what the problem is there. however, it seems like something went a bit funny in your install
[09:17] <HappyFool> pedrobest: um, no, you need to use something else for kde to know about that
[09:17] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i think it might be kdesu ? (let me check...)
[09:17] <cdc> !msh HappyFool
[09:17] <ubotu> I don't know, cdc
[09:17] <funkyHat> how do i stop polypaudio from locking up my soundcard? (for some reason my alsa apps can't use the device even though i have software mixing set up)
[09:17] <pedrobest> HappyFool: yes that what worked when i wanted to set up kwifi
[09:17] <cdc> hey guys
[09:18] <cdc> am about to dl a software
[09:18] <pedrobest> HappyFool: and sudo ls also worked
[09:18] <cdc> the problem is where would it go
[09:18] <egytrack> is there is a gui of sudo ?
[09:18] <delltony> gksudo iirc
[09:18] <Belutz> egytrack: gksudo maybe?
[09:18] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok, good. something is still a bit screwy -- i think you need to get at least 'ping 127.0.0.1' working, but maybe that has something to do with you other (wifi) network setup
[09:18] <darkheart> cdc Wherever you download it to
[09:18] <thrush_2> cdc, what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:19] <funkyHat> egytrack, gksudo
[09:19] <funkyHat> lol
[09:19] <cdc> thrush i want to dl it at my specified folder
[09:19] <dreameen> hiya
[09:19] <dreameen> where in ubuntu is the history of installed packages?
[09:19] <egytrack> where i can found it ?
[09:19] <thrush_2> cdc, firefox will prob download to desktop by default
[09:20] <egytrack> where is gksudo
[09:20] <egytrack> ?
[09:20] <delltony> egytrack: try this sudo apt-get install gk-su
[09:20] <Belutz> egytrack: you type gksudo <appname>
[09:20] <delltony> err gnome-sudo sorry
[09:20] <darkheart> cdc You can try right-clicking and choose 'save link as'. That should give you the option where to download.
[09:20] <berlet> des gens de france?
[09:20] <cdc> ok
[09:20] <HappyFool> in firefox, under edit -> preferences -> downloads, you can tell firefox to ask you where to save a file every time one is downloaded
[09:20] <darkheart> cdc Or you can change Firefox settings to always ask you where to download files
[09:20] <darkheart> !fr
[09:21] <ubotu> fr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:21] <delltony> Belutz: it might not be there by default cause in breezy ono my system its not
[09:21] <delltony> i had to install gnome-sudo
[09:21] <berlet> thx
[09:21] <darkheart> Welcome
[09:21] <HappyFool> someone could put a really rude message in one of those internationalized redirects and we'd never know ;)
[09:21] <berlet> #ubuntu-fr
[09:21] <Nard> hey
[09:21] <darkheart> HappyFool Hehe, true...although I can understand a bit of French.
[09:21] <Belutz> delltony: ic, i'm still using hoary, never tried breezy before :)
[09:21] <pedrobest> HappyFool: althought i now have connected to this wifi signal i cannot connect to the net
[09:21] <Nard> ubuntu comes witha perl interpreter right
[09:22] <humbolt> is it right that libraries complied with gcc4 in ubuntu have a different name like: libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt? which one is which one then?
[09:22] <darkheart> Nard Yes.
[09:22] <Nard> where is it
[09:22] <Nard> /usr/bin/perl right
[09:22] <pedrobest> HappyFool: any ideas how to - it should not be a router problem becasue knoppix can gain a ip address when on my wired lan pc
[09:22] <darkheart> Nard type 'which perl'
[09:22] <funkyHat> can someone DCC send me their esd.conf? or point me to where i can find the default
[09:22] <HappyFool> pedrobest: um. i'm not a wifi or routing expert, i'm afraid
[09:22] <egytrack> dosn't work , i try synatic to download gk-sudo and i could not found it for download .. !
[09:23] <Nard> ok darkheart i found it but it won't let me run it
[09:23] <Nard> it just says opening
[09:23] <Nard> then nothing
[09:23] <HappyFool> pedrobest: all i can do is recommend this:
[09:23] <HappyFool> !wifi
[09:23] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:23] <funkyHat> egytrack, it's already installed
[09:23] <darkheart> Nard Um..How are you trying to run it? It's an interpreter, you have to feed it a perl file, i.e. 'perl myperlprogram.pl'
[09:23] <test34> do you need gcc 3.4 to build the kernel ? or you can use 4.0
[09:23] <Nard> ok so i can't just open a shell type thing
[09:23] <cdc> it just save to desktop
[09:23] <pedrobest> HappyFool: thanks very much for this then - im sure ill be back!
[09:23] <egytrack> bash: gk-sudo: command not found
[09:23] <HappyFool> there's some hack to get an interactive perl. Or you could just use python instead ;)
[09:24] <darkheart> Nard Oh I see, some kind of command line that evaluates expressions like ruby has?
[09:24] <HappyFool> gksudo -- no -
[09:24] <cdc> if ever i want to updat packages? how?
[09:24] <Belutz> egytrack: gksudo not gk-sudo
[09:24] <Nard> Yeah that's what i'm looking for
[09:24] <funkyHat> egytrack, if you need to run a GUI app with root priveliges, click applications, click run program, then put in gksudo followed by the normal command (bear in mind launchers in system > administration are already set to run using gksudo
[09:24] <funkyHat> egytrack, no -. just gksudo
[09:25] <Nard> so is there anything like that darkheart
[09:25] <cdc> can you teach me how to update?
[09:25] <darkheart> Nard Hehe, I dunno. I'm not a perl programmer. But, I'm betting there is somewhere.
[09:26] <egytrack> yes i understand now i tybe gksudo and app name .. thanks
[09:26] <Belutz> egytrack: for example if you want to run application "a" with root privileges you can type "gksudo a"
[09:26] <Nard> drat
[09:26] <Belutz> egytrack: great :D
[09:26] <Nard> thanks for your help anyways darkheart
[09:26] <thrush_2> cdc, update firefox?
[09:26] <Cryptid> is Azureus available for Ubuntu
[09:26] <cdc> packages for OS
[09:26] <Belutz> Cryptid: i think it is
[09:26] <dzik_24> hallo everyone
[09:26] <cdc> for ubuntu
[09:26] <thrush_2> Cryptid, yes you will need to isntall java also
[09:27] <egytrack> can i have example of file browser ?
[09:27] <egytrack> with sudo ?
[09:27] <funkyHat> cdc, launch the program called ubuntu update manager, and go to preferences
[09:27] <Belutz> egytrack: try gksudo nautilus ?
[09:27] <funkyHat> cdc, set it to every day, or week, or however often you want it to update
[09:27] <djbrieck> thank you all
[09:27] <djbrieck> later
[09:28] <egytrack> i have error :  While connecting to session manager:
[09:28] <egytrack> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:28] <funkyHat> cdc, that program will display a red icon in your notification area when there are packages that need updating
[09:28] <Belutz> anyone have an idea what date is breezy is going to be release?
[09:28] <funkyHat> 13 october
[09:28] <dzik_24> does anybody know how to install Sound Blaster Audigy NX
[09:28] <Belutz> funkyHat: thx :)
[09:29] <okapi_> hi, to all
[09:29] <darkheart> !tell dzik_24 about audigy
[09:29] <Belutz> may i ask non technical stuff?
[09:30] <okapi_> I am a newbiez and need some help.
[09:30] <egytrack> how i can get filezilla server and client for ubuntu ?
[09:30] <Betaflye> sure Belutz
[09:30] <HappyFool> okapi_: please ask your questions
[09:30] <okapi_> How can you log in as root?
[09:30] <HappyFool> !tell okapi_ about root
[09:30] <darkheart> HappyFool Damn, you beat me to it.
[09:30] <toxicle> hi guy
[09:31] <toxicle> guys
[09:31] <HappyFool> heh
[09:31] <Belutz> Betaflye: i was once ordered cd from ship it, i already got my cd, and i forgot to write the token in mailing address, so i can't update my information on ship it page
[09:31] <toxicle> how do i disable ping reply?
[09:31] <cdc> !tell cdc about root
[09:31] <alexwillmer> Evening all, could anyone help me to coax the ATI fglrx driver to work on Breezy Preview. I believe I have the kernel module installed correctly, all that is left is the error "X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error)" from fgl_glxgears
[09:31] <okapi_> HappyFool, what you mean?
[09:31] <Belutz> Betaflye: can i still order again?
[09:31] <egytrack> how i can set ftp server ?
[09:31] <HappyFool> okapi_: ubotu should have sent you some information, and a link to a web page. if you read it, you should find the answer to your question
[09:32] <toxicle> how do i disable ping reply?
[09:32] <jamie_k> ppls: just updated to breezy from hoary... problem with xorg.conf?: startx gives 'No core keyboard - Fatal server error: failed to initialise core devices...' etc. Anyone help?
[09:32] <darkheart> toxicle We heard you the first time.
[09:32] <okapi_> Please, can you give me a quick hint?
[09:32] <toxicle> dark: sorry :)
[09:32] <HappyFool> okapi_: 'sudo -s', and enter you user's password
[09:33] <darkheart> !root
[09:33] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:33] <darkheart> okapi_ Read what ubotu just said.
[09:33] <Jowi> 'evening all
[09:33] <cdc> !tell cdc about install
[09:33] <darkheart> toxicle Np =)
[09:33] <toxicle> !tell toxicle about ping
[09:34] <cdc> do linux have viruses?
[09:34] <wold> how come my sound card wasnt automaticly detected my ubuntu?.. found it working with: modprobe snd-es1688
[09:34] <wold> I got a ess audio driver
[09:35] <HappyFool> not many, afaik. i think linuxshield has a list of 12 (i may be wrong)
[09:35] <wold> audio card
[09:35] <darkheart> cdc You can write a virus for anything, but they are not common for Linux.
[09:35] <funkyHat> cdc, toxicle, just do /msg ubotu install (or /msg ubotu ping)
[09:35] <AristoMagnus> hi !
[09:35] <AristoMagnus> Is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[09:35] <AristoMagnus> im on amd64 arch
[09:35] <maddler> AristoMagnus: I just did...
[09:35] <AristoMagnus> maddler: and what happen :P
[09:35] <maddler> and everything working fine... :)
[09:36] <AristoMagnus> good
[09:36] <Jester> k
[09:36] <jamie_k> bah! hehe
[09:36] <AristoMagnus> is breezy is stable yet?
[09:36] <egytrack> is there a ftp with a GUI ?
[09:36] <maddler> AristoMagnus: it is for ma at least...
[09:36] <darkheart> !tell AristoMagnus about breezy
[09:36] <AristoMagnus> maddler: your running amd64 arch?
[09:36] <jamie_k> egytrack: gftp
[09:36] <maddler> egytrack: try gftp
[09:36] <maddler> AristoMagnus: yes...
[09:36] <maddler> :D
[09:36] <egytrack> is there a ftp server with a GUI ?
[09:36] <egytrack> yes i try gftp .. nice
[09:36] <maddler> egytrack: and two... try gftp
[09:36] <darkheart> egytrack Try installing an ftp server and using webmin
[09:36] <ColonelKernel> how do I get hebrew support for ubuntu?
[09:37] <jamie_k> and then there's always gftp...
[09:37] <wold> I just got up my sound card driver.. but isnt working in some programs..
[09:37] <darkheart> egytrack Although that requires an http server also.
[09:37] <wold> when I start "esd".. it works
[09:37] <jamie_k> please, there must be some xorg config wizard out there... i mean a live breathing one...
[09:37] <wold> whats the best way of making it work.. without writing any command?
[09:37] <egytrack> i have apache2 installed
[09:37] <AristoMagnus> maddler: how can you switch to breezy?
[09:37] <darkheart> linux viruses -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[09:37] <darkheart> cdc ^^
[09:37] <Jowi> wold: same here. i solved it by forcing alsa only.
[09:37] <maddler> oh... folks... is there a way of having all the windows from all vdsesktops listed with ALT+TAB?
[09:38] <wold> Jowi, how can I do that?
[09:38] <egytrack> webmin , installed from synaptic or apt-get ?
[09:38] <darkheart> maddler I think there is, but that would also display all the windows in the taskbar.
[09:38] <HappyFool> ColonelKernel: i'm not too sure, but you probably at least need to install the language-pack-he package
[09:38] <darkheart> egytrack Doesn't matter, they do the same thing =)
[09:38] <maddler> darkheart: that's ok for me...
[09:39] <maddler> I alread have all them listed...
[09:39] <maddler> but alt+tab only shows those from current desktop...
[09:39] <egytrack> but i could not found webmin in the synatic !
[09:39] <maddler> darkheart: and I wasnt adle to find anything on help...
[09:39] <delltony> anyone remember right off where the page is talking about different laptop setup for ubuntu?
[09:40] <Jowi> wold: first: killall esd. second: gnome->system->prefs->sound->untick "enable soundserver at startup". third: gnome->system->prefs->multimediasomething->default output sink: ALSA. fourth: tell your applications that are now set to use esd to use alsa instead (not sure that this is needed)
[09:40] <delltony> looking for the howto on setting up my laptop buttons i forgot how
[09:40] <h0sl3r> How do I add fluxbox to my GDM settings stuff?
[09:40] <DaMi3n> msg juju,  u thr
[09:41] <jamie_k> if i repeat myself, will people get angry? just updated to breezy from hoary... now X refuses to start and the error is: 'No core keyboard - Fatal server error: failed to initialise core devices...' etc. Which means I'm now sitting on this proprietary OS X machine :(
[09:41] <jatos> hi
[09:41] <maddler> AristoMagnus: simply replace hoary with breezy in /apt/sources.list
[09:41] <jatos> anyone know how to take a screenie in kde?
[09:41] <maddler> and then apt-get udate/upgrade...
[09:41] <AristoMagnus> maddler: yeah, i just did, im now downloding
[09:41] <AristoMagnus> ;)
[09:41] <egytrack> how i can install webmin ?
[09:41] <maddler> screenie=screenshot?
[09:41] <jatos> egytrack, goto webmin.sourceforge.net
[09:42] <h0sl3r> How do I add fluxbox to my GDM settings stuff?
[09:42] <jatos> and get the unix source
[09:42] <AristoMagnus> maddler: you need to reboot
[09:42] <DaMi3n> i need some help to fix my resolution....
[09:42] <AristoMagnus> after?
[09:42] <SanderD> Will things like Beagle work in Breezy when I've got an AMD64?
[09:42] <maddler> egytrack: why webmin? webmin is kinda complex if you only need a graphical ftp client...
[09:42] <jatos> fluxbox gets added to the setting automatically
[09:42] <Jowi> h0sl3r: it should be added automaticaly. If it is not, copy and edit one of the other choices in /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions
[09:42] <h0sl3r> ok
[09:42] <sly> just a quickie wuestions, any N64 emulators to apt-get ?? ;)
[09:42] <andre_r> hey, how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[09:42] <sly> i miss mario kart 64
[09:42] <DaMi3n> i can view things at 1024x768@60 and 1024x768@90 Hz
[09:42] <cdc> gusy can you help me install my extracted cedega
[09:42] <sly> and golden eye
[09:42] <cdc> ubto doesn't have the instruction
[09:42] <DaMi3n> i can view things at 1024x768@60 and 1024x768@90 Hz but no options ato view the same at 74Hz
[09:42] <tear> anyone know of a DC client compatible with 64 architecture?
[09:42] <maddler> gotta go for a while...
[09:42] <andre_r> !places
[09:42] <ubotu> andre_r: What?
[09:43] <jamie_k> !tell jamie_k about xorg
[09:43] <DaMi3n> i can view things at 1024x768@60 and 1024x768@90 Hz but no options ato view the same at 74Hz.. how do i fix it
[09:43] <egytrack> maddler : no , i need ftp server
[09:45] <jamie_k> bleh, i'm going to install OS X for  X86 instead.... yeheh
[09:45] <Jowi> DaMi3n: you probably have a slightly incorrect monitor setup. check that your horiz and vert sync values are correct in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:45] <SanderD> After I've upgraded to Breezy, can I downgrade to Hoary?
[09:46] <DaMi3n> Jowi, i user dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specified all data needed as from the company specs...
[09:46] <disasm> egytrack: sudo apt-get install proftpd will get you an ftp server
[09:46] <cdc> ill try installing cedega later
[09:46] <egytrack> disasm: is it GUI ftp server ?
[09:47] <egytrack> disasm: thanks
[09:47] <disasm> egytrack: there's no such thing as a gui ftp server to my knowledge for linux
[09:47] <Jowi> DaMi3n: check xorg anyway. sometimes it happens that those lines are commented out.
[09:47] <Jowi> DaMi3n: xorg.conf i ment
[09:47] <DaMi3n> Jowi, i have chked it already it set corectly
[09:48] <Jowi> egytrack: proftpd is not gui (don't know any ftp servers that are) but it is very easy to set it up.
[09:48] <Jowi> DaMi3n: then i am out of ideas man.
[09:48] <delltony> anyone know the program or command to type that tells yu the key code of each key you hit like if you hit the volume up its like 154 or whatever?
[09:48] <ColonelKernel> anyone? Hebrew support for ubuntu?
[09:49] <yahalom> is gnome 2.12 in any of the repos?
[09:49] <Jester> Is it possible to get a list of packages configurable with debconf (dpkg-reconfigure) ?
[09:49] <HappyFool> delltony: 'showkey', but only works in the console, i think
[09:49] <AristoMagnus> yahalom: in breezy
[09:49] <HappyFool> Jester: synaptic can give such a list
[09:49] <yahalom> AristoMagnus, is breezy safe yet?
[09:49] <Jester> HappyFool, ok
[09:49] <jamie_k> interestingly, you will be thrilled to here, 'dexconf' has solved my problems. in case you encounter and future users with the same (quite odd) failure after a manual upgrade to breezy :-)
[09:49] <jdubbin> Hey guys. I'm having more problems
[09:49] <AristoMagnus> some say so, im just upgrading to it right now.. im waiting
[09:50] <DaMi3n> Section "Monitor"
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         Identifier      "SAMTRON 55V"
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         HorizSync       30-55
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         VertRefresh     50-120
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         Option          "DPMS"
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         # 1024x768 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 60.15 kHz; pclk: 81.80 MHz
[09:50] <DaMi3n>         Modeline "1024x768_75.00"  81.80  1024 1080 1192 1360  768 769 772 802 -HSync  +Vsync
[09:50] <yahalom> AristoMagnus, what do i have to change in my sources to breezy? everything?
[09:50] <DaMi3n> Jowi,, thas how i have set it up
[09:50] <jdubbin> I gave up trying to install Hoary as it failed to detect my SATA hddd, noe I am installing breezy under default mode, and I get an error at installing base system
[09:50] <egytrack> is there webmin for ubuntu version ?
[09:51] <delltony> thats the command thank you
[09:51] <Jowi> DaMi3n: looks good. Section "Screen" has got "SAMTRON 55V" in the Monitor field as well?
[09:51] <AristoMagnus> yahalom: yes ;) change hoary to breezy in sources.list
[09:51] <yahalom> AristoMagnus, thanx
[09:51] <DaMi3n> Jowi , yea
[09:51] <sordic> AristoMagnus, how many mb of download are necessary ?
[09:51] <HappyFool> !info webmin
[09:51] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.180-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1071 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[09:51] <DaMi3n> Monitor         "SAMTRON 55V"
[09:51] <DaMi3n> in secion screen
[09:51] <jdubbin> The erroris something to do with failure to install kernel t kernel package 'linux-amd64-generic' Any ideas?
[09:52] <delltony> delltony@ubuntu:~$ showkey -k
[09:52] <delltony> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[09:52] <delltony> delltony@ubuntu:~$
[09:52] <AristoMagnus> !info breezy
[09:52] <reiki> jdubbin: you have an AMD processor?
[09:52] <jdubbin> yes I do
[09:52] <AristoMagnus> !info amarok
[09:52] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 4844 kB, Installed size: 11292 kB
[09:52] <jdubbin> athlon 64 3000
[09:52] <AristoMagnus> amarok 1.3 rox !
[09:52] <sordic> AristoMagnus, how many mb of download are necessary ? to upgrade ?
[09:52] <HappyFool> delltony: run it in the console; Ctl-Alt-F1 and login there (Alt-F7 to get back)
[09:52] <Jowi> DaMi3n: then it is set up exactly as it should be. maybe the video driver doesn't support it. there is a command that let you know all the details about supported values.... can't remember the command though. anyone?
[09:52] <kaha> Could somebody plz tell me why my vim isn't doing digraphs? I have the line "set digraph" in my .vimrc
[09:52] <AristoMagnus> sordic: dunno, i didnt check
[09:52] <delltony> oh so have to have a virtual console
[09:52] <delltony> let me try that
[09:52] <ColonelKernel> thats odd, hebrew shows up in mozilla no problem, but not in xchat
[09:52] <sordic> AristoMagnus, ok. thanks anyway.
[09:53] <hop> what transfer rate do i have to expect from firewire under linux?
[09:53] <Jowi> !resolutions
[09:53] <ubotu> Jowi: Are you on ritalin?
[09:53] <DaMi3n> Jowi , k tx for all he help
[09:53] <HappyFool> ColonelKernel: i think irc has some problems with non-ascii
[09:53] <Jowi> DaMi3n: no prob.
[09:53] <hop> i seems i can't get more than 20MB/s
[09:53] <Jowi> !fixresolution
[09:53] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Jowi
[09:53] <Jowi> !resolution
[09:53] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:53] <Bazthea> Hello everybody
[09:53] <jdubbin> is there a problem with athlon 64
[09:53] <HappyFool> kaha: i'm guessing #vim will be a better place for that question
[09:54] <Jowi> DaMi3n: ahhh: run dccprobe in a terminal
[09:54] <DaMi3n> um ok
[09:54] <kaha> HappyFool: hmm, yer prolly right. Thanx.  :)
[09:54] <Jowi> DaMi3n: ddcprobe
[09:54] <lorenzod> Is anybody else having problems with gedit-2.12?
[09:55] <AristoMagnus> sordic: 288MB of archives
[09:55] <Carol> whoami
[09:55] <Carol> exit
[09:55] <DaMi3n> Jowi , ddc probe ouput
[09:55] <DaMi3n> timing: 1024x768@70 Hz (VESA)
[09:55] <DaMi3n> timing: 1024x768@75 Hz (VESA)
[09:55] <DaMi3n> timing: 1280x1024@75 (VESA)
[09:55] <sordic> AristoMagnus, only it ?! great! =)
[09:55] <Carol> #eixt
[09:55] <Carol> #exit
[09:56] <AristoMagnus> sordic: on amd64
[09:56] <Jowi> DaMi3n: that about emptied my knowledge in that area :-) Please do not flood the channel DaMi3n...
[09:56] <DaMi3n> umm ok and sry
[09:56] <delltony> HappyFool: any idea how to convert that hex code to a number like for instance i get 0xfc or whatever and i the lineakd file its 154
[09:56] <sordic> AristoMagnus, ah, ok.
[09:57] <jdubbin> Error returned while trying to install kernel into target system Kernel package: 'linux-amd64-generic' . I am installing Ubuntu on 2nd partition of SCSI2. The first partition is NTFS. I let linux do the formatting for the 2nd. Any ideas what my problem is?
[09:57] <HappyFool> delltony: applications -> accessories -> calculator
[09:57] <delltony> ha yeah duh on my part
[09:57] <jdubbin> i mean the 1st
[09:57] <jdubbin> actually scratch that last one
[09:58] <sordic> !info serpentine
[09:58] <AristoMagnus> !info serpentine
[09:58] <AristoMagnus> lol
[09:59] <IRCMonkey> hello
[09:59] <EtherealPurple> can anyone tell me how to boot manually?
[09:59] <IRCMonkey> one favour pls...
[09:59] <Jowi> EtherealPurple: be more precise please
[09:59] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: try 'sudo reboot' in a terminal?
[09:59] <ja_> is anybody here to tell me not to do hoary to breezy dist-upgrade, but fresh install?
[10:00] <IRCMonkey> can u help me how to reinstall Serial mouse in Ubuntu..?
[10:00] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: otherwise press the reset switch or flick the power off and on ;)
[10:00] <jdubbin> Ubuntu "Linux for Human Beings except me"
[10:00] <EtherealPurple> i got this error and it told me that i had to "boot manually with the /boot/vmlinuz kernel on partition /dev/sda1 and root=/dev/sda1 passed as kernel argument
[10:01] <HappyFool> jdubbin: unfortunately, if we don't have experience with your problem or platform, it is very difficult to help you
[10:01] <jdubbin> I understand
[10:01] <EtherealPurple> well, when i try to boot up my computer, it either says "boot disk error" or "error booting the os"
[10:01] <Jowi> EtherealPurple: ouch. sda1 is a memory stick or something...?
[10:01] <pedrobest> ive set the root passwd and i want to allow root to logon - there is a strange issue with kdesu but i just need to get a network connection going so i dont have to run between 2 pcs for help.
[10:01] <pedrobest> how do i allow root logon
[10:01] <jdubbin> It's just frustrating being a noob
[10:02] <_reset> is the best audio player beep media player?
[10:02] <HappyFool> pedrobest: it's probable that you can't login as root in 'graphical' mode
[10:02] <EtherealPurple> Jowi: i don't really know
[10:02] <EtherealPurple> it's definitely not a memory stick
[10:02] <HappyFool> pedrobest: you should be able to login on the console (Ctl-Alt-F1 to get to console; Alt-F7 to get back to graphical mode)
[10:02] <EtherealPurple> because i don't actually own one
[10:02] <Jowi> EtherealPurple: my mp3 and camera both show as sda1, that's why i asked.
[10:02] <EtherealPurple> oh, okay
[10:03] <HappyFool> pedrobest: finally, you can somehow make kdm (or gdm) let you login as root, but i'm not sure how
[10:03] <pedrobest> i need to run a kde program called network preferneces and enable my wlan connection and then i think it will work
[10:03] <EtherealPurple> brb
[10:03] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: do you have SATA or SCSI drives?
[10:03] <pedrobest> but that is graphical
[10:03] <EtherealPurple> yeah, sata
[10:03] <Jowi> pedrobest: sudo gdmconfig lets you tick "allow root to log in" no idea about kdm though
[10:03] <kaha> bleargh, I think everyone at #vim is asleep.  :(
[10:03] <EtherealPurple> one sata drive
[10:03] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: sata shows up as /dev/sda*
[10:04] <EtherealPurple> yeah, okay
[10:04] <EtherealPurple> so that would explain sda1
[10:04] <_reset> why i can't play mp3 trough smb?
[10:04] <pedrobest> ill try sudo kdmconfig
[10:04] <_reset> with drag and drop
[10:04] <EtherealPurple> brb
[10:05] <EtherealPurple> never mind
[10:05] <pedrobest> ok then thats not a command
[10:05] <Sashi> hmmm
[10:05] <pedrobest> i think there needs to be a kubuntu irc
[10:05] <Sashi> hey how can i find out my monitors max hsync or w/e
[10:05] <HappyFool> pedrobest: there is one; i should have mentioned it before
[10:05] <HappyFool> pedrobest: #kubuntu
[10:06] <_reset> why i can't play mp3 trough smb?
[10:06] <_reset> with drag and drop
[10:06] <pedrobest> wow  - thanks
[10:06] <Sashi> cuz at screen resoultion i can only select up to 1280 my monitor can support up to 1680 im sure so how do i add that?
[10:06] <pedrobest> bye
[10:06] <EtherealPurple> HappyFool: so, do you know why i can't boot my computer?
[10:06] <Jowi> ubotu, tell Sashi about resolution
[10:06] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: has ubuntu ever booted correctly?
[10:06] <EtherealPurple> no
[10:06] <EtherealPurple> i just installed it
[10:07] <EtherealPurple> not entirely sucessfully
[10:07] <HappyFool> what have you installed? ubuntu 5.04 ?
[10:07] <EtherealPurple> possibly...?
[10:07] <EtherealPurple> the hoary hedgehog one
[10:07] <HappyFool> right, that's 5.04
[10:07] <Jowi> Sashi: if that link that ubotu provided you does not give you any ideas, then you have to look in the monitors manual
[10:07] <EtherealPurple> okay
[10:07] <EtherealPurple> i thought it was
[10:08] <HappyFool> ok, why do you think the install was unsuccessful?
[10:08] <egytrack> how to install webmin to ubuntu ?
[10:08] <jamie_k> bye...
[10:08] <HappyFool> well, obviously it's not working ;)
[10:08] <EtherealPurple> well, i couldn't install a boot loader
[10:08] <HappyFool> ah
[10:08] <EtherealPurple> ha, yeah
[10:08] <HappyFool> hmm. do you have the live cd too ?
[10:08] <EtherealPurple> yeah
[10:08] <EtherealPurple> that's what i have
[10:08] <HappyFool> ok. does this machine have anything other than ubuntu ?
[10:09] <EtherealPurple> yeah
[10:09] <_reset> how can i play mp3 trough smb???
[10:09] <_reset> help
[10:09] <EtherealPurple> i have windows in another partition
[10:09] <_reset> i 've beep media player
[10:09] <EtherealPurple> i would say running but, well, it's not
[10:09] <Jowi> _reset: are you allowed to copy the files at all?
[10:09] <HappyFool> so after installing ubuntu, windows also doesn't boot?
[10:10] <egytrack> can i install it from rpm package ?
[10:10] <EtherealPurple> basically all that happens is the list of devices connected to the motherboard comes up, which happens normally right before windows boots
[10:10] <AristoMagnus> sordic:  it 580megs more with the dist-upgrade
[10:10] <HappyFool> sounds like the install mucked up the mbr -- did you tell it *not* to install a boot loader?
[10:11] <EtherealPurple> after the list comes up, it says, "DISK BOOT FAILURE; INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[10:11] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:12] <EtherealPurple> and i didn't install a boot loader because the grub and the other one had fatal errors
[10:12] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, did you use the manual partition editor when you were installing?
[10:12] <EtherealPurple> yeah
[10:12] <Jowi> sounds exactly like in the old days when you forgot to remove the floppy :-)
[10:12] <EtherealPurple> haha
[10:12] <funkyHat> did you by any chance set your ubuntu partition to 'bootable: yes'?
[10:12] <SanderD> To have /var/ at /home/, should I do "sudo ln -s /var /home/var/"?
[10:12] <EtherealPurple> ooh
[10:12] <EtherealPurple> that might be it
[10:12] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, if you did, that would be what broke it
[10:13] <EtherealPurple> yeah
[10:13] <funkyHat> you should leave the windows partition as the boot one
[10:13] <EtherealPurple> all right
[10:13] <HappyFool> can only 1 partition be bootable?
[10:13] <funkyHat> only one partition can have the 'boot flag'
[10:13] <EtherealPurple> i would think so
[10:13] <EtherealPurple> yeah, okay
[10:13] <funkyHat> but that doesn't have a lot to do with what actually boots
[10:13] <Zac> hey, I've just installed windows XP, I have a 80 gig hard drive and partitioned it into two 5 gigs and 70 gigs, I installed windows on one of the 5 gigs, I'm wondering, is there anything that i must do before installing Ubuntu onto the other 5 gig partition?
[10:13] <Jowi> Zac: nope, install away.
[10:14] <thrush_2> EtherealPurple, you can download grub floppy image and use that to install to mbr..
[10:14] <EtherealPurple> all right
[10:14] <EtherealPurple> how would i do that?
[10:14] <Zac> so once Ubuntu is installed, I will get a duel booting option screen when starting up my computer?
[10:14] <funkyHat> thrush_2, he doesn't need to do that, he just needs to reinstall, and change the boot flag back to his windows partition
[10:14] <Jowi> Zac: yes.
[10:14] <Zac> or is there anything that i need to do before i get that
[10:14] <EtherealPurple> funkyhat: yeah, that's what i thought i would do
[10:15] <funkyHat> Zac, 5Gig is a bit on the small side...
[10:15] <EtherealPurple> i'll try that
[10:15] <Jowi> Zac: when the installer ask you if you want to install grub boot manager to MBR say "yes"
[10:15] <EtherealPurple> and i guess i'll be back here if it doesn't work
[10:15] <funkyHat> Zac, note what i said to EtherealPurple about boot flags ^
[10:15] <EtherealPurple> anyways, thanks a lot in advance
[10:16] <funkyHat> hope it works EtherealPurple :)
[10:16] <blake> does anyone know how to install fonts?
[10:16] <Zac> how would i change the boot flag?
[10:16] <thrush_2> Zac, you can in cfdisk
[10:17] <funkyHat> Zac, it's an option in the manual partition editor, just don't touch it ;)
[10:17] <funkyHat> if you do, there's a good chance it will break the bootup of your computer (not permanently, just until you change it back)
[10:18] <Zac> so what you guys say i shall do before installing Ubuntu, just just completed the new installation of XP now
[10:18] <HiddenWolf> iemand hier ervaring met hula?
[10:18] <Zac> thanks a lot guys you're a real great help
[10:18] <funkyHat> Zac, one thing: you may find that 5GB is a bit small...
[10:18] <funkyHat> 10GB will be plenty though
[10:18] <Zac> yeah for windows or Ubuntu?
[10:18] <thrush_2> funkyHat, i wouldnt think that boot flag would be unimportant with boot manager installed on the mbr?
[10:19] <Zac> maybe i should change that
[10:19] <EtherealPurple> so, i'm in the process of installing it (i'm at the partition manager, or whatever they call it)
[10:19] <EtherealPurple> my question is, if i have the windows partition as the bootable one, how will i boot into linux?
[10:19] <EtherealPurple> although i guess i can worry about that later
[10:19] <IceDC571> happy software freedom day?
[10:19] <HappyFool> EtherealPurple: the boot loader will take care of that
[10:19] <EtherealPurple> okay
[10:19] <funkyHat> thrush_2, so would i :) but it's given me lots of problems before, and also that advice has helped a lot of people on here
[10:20] <EtherealPurple> great
[10:20] <HappyFool> IceDC571: indeed ;)
[10:20] <Zac> haha IceDC571 thanks man :D
[10:20] <thrush_2> funkyHat, ok =)
[10:20] <Sashi> still doesnt work
[10:20] <EtherealPurple> brb again
[10:21] <EtherealPurple> oh, one more thing...
[10:21] <funkyHat> thrush_2, maybe if i do a bit more research about it, i could make a tutoral on changing the boot flag and using the grub installer without having to bother reinstalling ubuntu. but i'm not doing that anytime soon :P
[10:21] <EtherealPurple> just to make sure, changing the boot flag on the windows partition won't effect the data on that partition, right?
[10:21] <funkyHat> no
[10:21] <EtherealPurple> okay, good
[10:21] <EtherealPurple> i didn't think it would
[10:21] <Jowi> Zac: I have 3Gb for the system "/" and the rest for "/home" (two partitions). just in case your system have an accident later on your user files will still be alright.  good luck with the install :-)
[10:22] <JazyLNX> hey guys
[10:22] <marty> I have  a system with a SCSI drive and Ubuntu Install can not detect it. Anyone know how I can install on that drive?
[10:22] <JazyLNX> is breezy's x working mostly now? cuz i remember reading awhile back. and many where having problems with that.
[10:23] <crimsun> it works well here.
[10:23] <Zac> Aah Jowi, mmm would you mind if i spoke with you in private? it would be much appreciated :)
[10:23] <IceDC571> breezy's x is just fine now
[10:23] <JazyLNX> can anyone point me on how i would upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 preview release please
[10:23] <esac_> i have a symbolic link to a directory. when i try to remove the link, i type "rm -f linkname" . it says "cannot remove directory: is a directory" .. so i "rmdir linkname" and it says "not a directory" .. any ideas ?
[10:23] <jdak> dlo you have to partition your drive to have two operating systems installed
[10:24] <marty> Is there a driver disk available for install, so that I can install on a SCSI drive? I could not find anything in the forum?
[10:24] <IceDC571> esac_ try rm -rf
[10:24] <IceDC571> esac_ you need the "r" in there for recursive so it will remove the whole folder
[10:24] <esac_> IceDC571: I tried, it says "cannot remove linkname: not a directory"
[10:24] <HappyFool> esac_: what does 'ls -ld <nameoflink>' say?
[10:24] <vanberge> can anybody recommend a nice html editing application?  perhaps similar in functionality to dreamweaver?
[10:25] <vanberge> :-)
[10:25] <funkyHat> NVU
[10:25] <JazyLNX> can't i just change something in the repos and then do an apt-get somthing?
[10:25] <esac_> HappyFool: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 23:01 dynamic/
[10:25] <Jowi> Zac: go ahead.
[10:25] <marty> vanberge, like funkyHat said, NVU is a good app for that
[10:25] <HappyFool> esac_: doesn't look like a link to me
[10:25] <marty> I have  a system with a SCSI drive and Ubuntu Install can not detect it. Anyone know how I can install on that drive?\
[10:26] <wold> how can I enable my printer as a network printer?
[10:26] <esac_> HappyFool: ls -l shows lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   27 Sep 10 13:04 dynamic -> /root/dynamic
[10:26] <funkyHat> wold, on a windows network?
[10:26] <IceDC571> marty have you tried booting with an extra paremeter?
[10:26] <vanberge> marty, funkyHat is there a ubuntu package for that?  i cant find it via synaptic or apt.  i have universe repos available
[10:27] <wold> funkyHat, yes.. so they work for a windows network
[10:27] <funkyHat> vanberge, no, get the .package (autopackage) file from www.nvu.com
[10:27] <funkyHat> wold, you need to install the samba server packages(if you haven't already)
[10:27] <marty> IceDC571, what parameters are available that would help in detecting SCSI drives?
[10:27] <HappyFool> esac_: so ls -l and ls -ld show different things?
[10:27] <esac_> HappyFool: because "ls -lf" doesnt dereference symbolic links
[10:28] <marty> vanberge, checkout unbuntuguide.org. It is listedf there along with a ton of other great software.
[10:28] <esac_> err ls -ld
[10:28] <vanberge> marty, ty!
[10:28] <marty> vanberge, no problem
[10:29] <CookedGryphon> sob. ruddy winmodem!
[10:29] <JazyLNX> does anyone know how i can upgrade from a release to a newer release without downloading the cd
[10:29] <JazyLNX> ?
[10:29] <HappyFool> esac_: hmm. over here, ls -l, and ls -ld show the *same* think for a link to a directory
[10:29] <wold> funkyHat, yes.. and what now?
[10:29] <funkyHat> wold, erm, actually i can't remember *'_'* sorry... someone else will konw i'm sure
[10:29] <crimsun> JazyLNX: update your sources.list, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:29] <esac_> must be an OS/version difference .. running RHEL4.1 here
[10:29] <esac_> HappyFool: ls (coreutils) 5.2.1
[10:30] <HappyFool> esac_: same here. You're using ext3 ?
[10:30] <JazyLNX> in the sources do i just change the release names
[10:30] <crimsun> JazyLNX: essentially.
[10:30] <esac_> HappyFool: fstab says i am
[10:31] <abe23> could someone help me with reinstalling console fonts as I think that causes me total system hangups?
[10:31] <crb> Hi all.
[10:32] <HiddenFly> where can i change my splash screen that comes up everytime i log in from?
[10:32] <HappyFool> esac_: something very screwy. i can't see how a link can appear as a directory, ever (as in your first ls output)
[10:33] <JazyLNX> what are the breezy repos?
[10:33] <HappyFool> esac_: unless you typed ls -lf there too, and /root/dynamic has a dynamic subdirectory
[10:33] <ubuntu> yoe
[10:33] <crb> If I want to file a bug against isolinux on the installer CD, should I use the 'debian-installer' package?
[10:33] <ubuntu> somebody dutch
[10:33] <esac_> HappyFool: does ls --help say for -d  "and do not dereference symbolic links
[10:33] <esac_> "
[10:33] <ubuntu> somebody dutch
[10:34] <crb> ubuntu: #ubuntu-nl ?
[10:34] <HappyFool> esac_: no, it says -d, --directory            list directory entries instead of contents,
[10:34] <jdak> dlo you have to partition your drive to have two operating systems installed
[10:35] <funkyHat> how can i make polypaudio use alsa? at the moment it's locking up my soundcard :(
[10:35] <esac_> what's after that comma
[10:35] <HappyFool> esac_: erm, grep cut stuff off. stand by
[10:35] <h0sl3r> What is a good menu generator/editor for fluxbox?
[10:35] <Lie-Algebra> hi, supposing I want to download cvs sources from sourceforge (madwifi drivers), how should I start the command : "cvs -d ... " ?
[10:35] <HappyFool> esac_: right, don't dereference links
[10:35] <crimsun> funkyHat: err, tell it to use the proper alsa modules instead of the oss ones
[10:35] <filloy> hello all !...i need help with my log in :P the thing is that i cant log in because when i type the user and passwords, i only get squares insted of letters. I have to log in from the terminal and startx manually. Thanx for the help :)
[10:36] <esac_> weird .. it sounds like maybe the difference that we are seeing is the issue then .. but i dont know how to solve it
[10:36] <funkyHat> crimsun, how can i do that? :)
[10:36] <crimsun> funkyHat: edit the conffile
[10:36] <CookedGryphon> filloy, is it tryign to do it in japanese or something?
[10:36] <EtherealPurple> hello again
[10:37] <HappyFool> esac_: however, ls -l and ls -ld give the same output for a symlink to a directory here. i have ls aliased to 'ls --color=auto' -- i see you have some other 'default' flags? (to get the trailing '/')
[10:37] <filloy> CookedGryphon nope, it displays squares :) no japanese or any funky lenguage
[10:37] <CookedGryphon> filloy, try checking u have english selected in the language thing
[10:37] <CookedGryphon> yeah but squares usually means it can't find the right font
[10:37] <marty> I have  a system with a SCSI drive and Ubuntu Install can not detect it. Anyone know how I can install on that drive?
[10:37] <filloy> CookedGryphon actually its spanish, but english wil work :p
[10:37] <CookedGryphon> so if it was tryin to do a crazy font.. maybe
[10:37] <EtherealPurple> i got an error trying to install the GRUB loader again
[10:37] <funkyHat> filloy, that means it probably is japanese or something :P and you don't have the right fonts
[10:37] <HiddenFly> where can i change my splash screen that comes up everytime i log in from?
[10:37] <filloy> funkyHat ok, ill try something more normal, like Tahoma :p
[10:37] <jdermer> hey guys
[10:37] <esac_> HappyFool: just alias ls='ls --color=tty'  ... using ssh
[10:38] <jdermer> i just installed hedgehog and i got a question
[10:38] <jdermer> when i go to update it seems like a cd-rom is the only source
[10:38] <jdermer> is there no like internet-update
[10:38] <jdak> do you have to partition your drive to have two operating systems installed
[10:38] <egytrack> is there something else like webmin ?
[10:38] <EtherealPurple> who?
[10:38] <HappyFool> esac_: hrm. what does 'file dynamic' say ?
[10:39] <AristoMagnus> doh! the KDE package unmet dependency while dist-upgrade to breezy on amd64
[10:39] <AristoMagnus> :(
[10:39] <HappyFool> esac_: oh, and i presume you are using sudo for the 'rm' command ?
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> jdermer, u need to look in tools, repos or something
[10:39] <esac_> HappyFool: dynamic/: directory
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> or !repos
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> !repos
[10:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:39] <Jowi> HiddenFly: if you are talking about gdm, then you just run "sudo gdmconfig" in a terminal.
[10:39] <abe23> is there any checkdisk tool installed with ubuntu to check hard disk integrity from the terminal?
[10:39] <esac_> HappyFool: well currently i am running as root
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> okay jdermer ?
[10:39] <jdermer> huh?
[10:39] <jdermer> repos ?
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> repositories
[10:39] <filloy> jdermer repositories :)
[10:39] <Jowi> HiddenFly: or are you talking about the gnome-splash image?
[10:39] <HappyFool> esac_: ok, so sudo is not an issue. how about 'touch foo; ln foo bar; file *' ? does file say it's a link?
[10:40] <_reset> how can play an avi  trough samba???
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> jdermer, update servers
[10:40] <jdermer> i dont c that
[10:40] <_reset> what player?
[10:40] <filloy> CookedGryphon ok, how can i change the font for the log in ?....
[10:40] <scott_utd> hi, i'm trying to install xsupplicant on Ubuntu PowerPC, but i get the error: library 'crypto' is required for Open1x
[10:40] <HiddenFly> Jowi: yea the one that comes just after logging in
[10:40] <abe23> is there any console browser installed with ubuntu like lynx?
[10:40] <EtherealPurple> anyone know why i would get fatal errors installing boot loaders?
[10:40] <scott_utd> i read this means i need to install libssl-dev, but i don't know where to get it
[10:40] <crimsun> abe23: w3m
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> filloy, try choosing spanish or whatever in the languages drop down box in gdm
[10:40] <Jowi> HiddenFly: oh, i am not using gnome so i will have to dig a bit. brb
[10:40] <HiddenFly> k
[10:40] <HappyFool> esac_: it looks like somehow your system is confused about what 'dynamic' is
[10:40] <esac_> HappyFool: it says "empty" for both
[10:40] <emp-> Hey, how can I remove the AM/PM on the clock in the gnome-panel..taking up precious panel space
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> abe23, apt-get lynx :D
[10:41] <jdermer> where should i be lookin ?
[10:41] <crb> emp: right click/preferences
[10:41] <crb> 24 hour?
[10:41] <HappyFool> esac_: hmm. so somehow your system can't distinguish links from normal files ?
[10:41] <JazyLNX> the site from ubotu didn't give me breezy repos
[10:41] <HappyFool> esac_: oh, oops
[10:41] <JazyLNX> anyone know them?
[10:41] <HiddenFly> i couldnt find any option for changing it from gdmconfig
[10:41] <abe23> thanks cookedgryphon and crimsun
[10:41] <jdubbin> i finally got something to work, but now Ubuntu Config is freezing up when trying to install packages
[10:41] <HappyFool> esac_: sorry, i meant ln -s foo bar
[10:41] <filloy> CookedGryphon ok, changed every keyboard layout i have, lets see if it works....
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> ubotu tell jdermer about repos
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> filloy okay
[10:41] <filloy> CookedGryphon thanx, by !
[10:41] <Jowi> HiddenFly: http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=16
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> did it work?
[10:41] <scott_utd> hi, i'm trying to install xsupplicant on Ubuntu PowerPC, but i get the error: library 'crypto' is required for Open1x
[10:41] <scott_utd> i read this means i need to install libssl-dev, but i don't know where to get it
[10:42] <abe23> how can I reinstall console fonts? When booting there is a "Setting up general console font" fail.
[10:42] <HappyFool> esac_: i'm sure it should work now (i.e., it should mark 'bar' as a symlink)
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> scott_utd, have u tried apt-get on it?
[10:42] <esac_> HappyFool: ok so "file dynamic" says "directory" but "file *" shows dynamic as a symbolic link to /root/dynamic
[10:42] <scott_utd> ah, good idea
[10:42] <crimsun> scott_utd: sudo aptitude install libssl-dev
[10:42] <GeekS> #ubuntu-es
[10:42] <HiddenFly> Jowi: ill try that, thanks
[10:42] <esac_> screw it, i'll just copy what i need out and rm -rf the whole directory :)
[10:42] <HappyFool> esac_: very weird
[10:43] <Jowi> HiddenFly: you're welcome
[10:43] <EtherealPurple> anyone know why installing boot loaders would keep failing?
[10:43] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, sometimes they can be messy.... have you tried using lilo?
[10:44] <EtherealPurple> sort of
[10:44] <funkyHat> and have you tried installing grub to hda1 rather than mbr?
[10:44] <jdermer> thanx for the link
[10:44] <EtherealPurple> funyHat: how would i do that?
[10:44] <jdermer> but i dont know which repos to check off
[10:45] <CookedGryphon> i have all of them apart from the sources ones jdermer
[10:45] <marty> I have  a system with a SCSI drive and Ubuntu Install can not detect it. Anyone know how I can install on that drive?
[10:45] <jdermer> k
[10:46] <jdermer> lemme give it a try
[10:46] <jdubbin> marty try and use Breezy
[10:46] <JazyLNX> alright guys
[10:46] <JazyLNX> i'm going to give breezy a try
[10:46] <JazyLNX> if i don't come back
[10:46] <JazyLNX> you know what happened
[10:46] <jdubbin> I asked the same question early this morning
[10:46] <jdubbin> No one has a solution
[10:47] <jdermer> so after adding the repos
[10:47] <jdermer> do i just do mark all upgrades ?
[10:47] <CookedGryphon> yeah and then what did u want to install? i forgot
[10:47] <_reset> how can play an avi  trough samba???
[10:47] <_reset> what player?
[10:47] <CookedGryphon> all upgrades jstu updates the packages on ure system to the latest version
[10:47] <jdubbin> But now I'm getting freeze ups when trying to install packages
[10:47] <_reset> how?
[10:48] <CookedGryphon> if u want new ones  jdermer u have to apt-get them
[10:48] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: should i install the LILO boot loader on the master boot partition or the new ubuntu partition?
[10:48] <CookedGryphon> or synaptic and search which i prefer
[10:48] <afabian> When I start the Ubuntu installer on my laptop, it's halfway rolled off of the screen.  Very difficult to continue.  Is there a solution or workaround for that issue?
[10:48] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, try the mbr first
[10:48] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: how do i do that?
[10:48] <AristoMagnus> How can i free the ram
[10:49] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, i can't remember sorry, haven't used lilo for years
[10:49] <jdermer> huh?
[10:49] <EtherealPurple> oh
[10:49] <EtherealPurple> okay then
[10:49] <jdermer> apt-get wut ?
[10:49] <EtherealPurple> wait
[10:49] <CookedGryphon> lol i can't remember what u wanted in the sstart
[10:49] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: would the mbr be the master boot partition?
[10:49] <funkyHat> yes probably
[10:49] <EtherealPurple> okay
[10:50] <EtherealPurple> then i think i know how to do it
[10:50] <EtherealPurple> thanks
[10:50] <CookedGryphon> oh yeah, jdermer i remember, yeah taht will install updates, apt-get update
[10:50] <CookedGryphon> and then when u want new packages apt-get whatever u want
[10:50] <funkyHat> ok, hope it works :)
[10:50] <jdermer> wut does the synaptic thing do then
[10:50] <CookedGryphon> taht's a gui for apt-get
[10:51] <scott_utd> anyone else tried to install xsupplicant?
[10:51] <EtherealPurple> well, it failed again
[10:51] <EtherealPurple> i tried the "master boot partition" option
[10:51] <jdermer> ?
[10:52] <jonphilpott> hi.. im new to ubuntu, i installed breezy today, trying to install w32codecs, but it can't seem to find it, and i believe i have the right stuff in sources.list, any ideas?
[10:52] <CookedGryphon> jdermer, what's the problem?
[10:52] <thrush_2> jonphilpott, you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list possible it was moved to extras in which case youll have to add one more repo
[10:53] <jdermer> wut is the differece betwen apt-get and using the snypatic manager
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> kerwin white?
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> Kerwin - is that you?
[10:53] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: can i not install a boot loader and still run windows if it has the boot flag?
[10:53] <CookedGryphon> nothing, apart from one is in the command line and the other u get a window and can browse through the available packages
[10:53] <bytefoo> HP's Sean Owen-Jones also said the company would shortly be releasing desktop and notebook PCs running Ubuntu Linux. The NX6110 notebook would be available shortly with Ubuntu and a desktop PC would also be available.
[10:53] <jonphilpott> thrush_2: just need to add extras onto the end of the list?
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> bytefoo, nice
[10:53] <marty> jdermer, apt-get is a command line tool, synaptic is a graphical front end to apt-get
[10:53] <EtherealPurple> *if the windows partition has the boot flag
[10:54] <_reset> how use smb in video lan???
[10:54] <_reset> how use smb in video lan???
[10:54] <ColonelKernel> see linux would have taken off a lot sooner if it had a community like ubuntu's
[10:54] <EtherealPurple> haha, yeah, probably
[10:54] <ColonelKernel> but imagine yourself a windows user going into #debian for help
[10:54] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, installing the boot loader should mean you can choose to boot windows or linux
[10:54] <segphault> hi, I just tried to upgrade a warty system to breezy, and I ran into some probs with X. It won't replace xfree86 packages with the relevant xorg packages for some reason. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[10:54] <CookedGryphon> _reset, can you play video locally?
[10:54] <EtherealPurple> yeah, but what if i can't install it?
[10:55] <funkyHat> you can repair windows using your windows installer CD
[10:55] <thrush_2> jonphilpott, seems likely the path should be on the ubuntu wiki site
[10:55] <EtherealPurple> oh
[10:55] <EtherealPurple> really?
[10:55] <funkyHat> but then you won't be able to boot into linux
[10:55] <EtherealPurple> yeah, well, that wouldn't be the end of the world
[10:56] <EtherealPurple> it'd be a lot more annoying not to be able to run windows than not to be able to run linux
[10:56] <EtherealPurple> brb
[10:56] <CookedGryphon> i haven't booted into windows in weeks since i got ubuntu set up :D
[10:56] <_reset> CookedGryphon,  yes
[10:56] <fanskapet> *yawns
[10:56] <CookedGryphon> _reset, then i'm afraid i have no idea sorry
[10:56] <ColonelKernel> ph yeah its easy to repair windows boot
[10:57] <_reset> lol
[10:57] <ColonelKernel> fixboot and fixmbr and youre good
[10:57] <afabian> Depends on what the error is.  Windows can be fiendishly complicated to fix.
[10:57] <ColonelKernel> if your windows boot gets killed
[10:58] <ColonelKernel> if you get system files deleted and the such youre in trouble
[10:58] <CookedGryphon> if u snap ure windows disk in two and wipe ure hdd completely.. then ure in trouble
[10:59] <scott_utd> anyone else tried to install xsupplicant?
[11:00] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, i wouldn't define that as 'in trouble' i'd define that as 'a good time to scrap that windows shit alltogether'
[11:00] <InitMass> which is correct english, "expression by David" or "expression of David"?
[11:00] <funkyHat> XD
[11:00] <twibbler> CookedGryphon: I would say it was a good plan ....
[11:00] <scott_utd> David's Expression
[11:00] <mik3> hi i just installed ftpd how do i turn the server on
[11:00] <jdubbin> i'm starting to think I should just stick to Windoze. Anyway, it was fun
[11:00] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: how would i go about repairing my windows installation?
[11:00] <Hoxzer> how I can check the names of my hdd?
[11:01] <mik3> jdubbin: true words of a spoken failure
[11:01] <funkyHat> ask ColonelKernel, he seems to know :)
[11:01] <jdubbin> I fail at life
[11:01] <mik3> hold on, i'll call the wahhhmbulance
[11:01] <mik3> hi i just installed ftpd how do i turn the server on
[11:01] <jonphilpott> has anyone else had troubles burning dvds too? it doesnt seem to recognise any blank dvd i put in when i try to burn with nautlius
[11:01] <fanskapet> hmm anyone here uses xfce?
[11:01] <twibbler> jdubbin: just remember when you started using windows .... then think how easier it is to start using ubuntu ...
[11:01] <ksmurf> hello all.  I hope this doesn't sound too noobish but is there a way to "slim down" a ubuntu kernal and remove all the stuff I don't want? or do I have to compile my kernel?  If I have to recomiple a kernel do I use a vanilla or one from The repos?
[11:01] <EtherealPurple> funkyHat: was that directed at me?
[11:02] <funkyHat> yeah
[11:02] <EtherealPurple> okay
[11:02] <EtherealPurple> thought so
[11:02] <mik3> Ether bunny!
[11:02] <EtherealPurple> i guess that would be me, huh?
[11:02] <marty> jdermer, apt-get is a command line tool, synaptic is a graphical front end to apt-get
[11:02] <marty> I have  a system with a SCSI drive and Ubuntu Install can not detect it. Anyone know how I can install on that drive?
[11:02] <jdubbin> Maybe I'll try later, but I have hmomework. Differential Equations is much easier than this shit
[11:03] <mik3> yeah they called me that in the miliary because i used to talk about huffing ether a lot
[11:03] <funkyHat> EtherealPurple, yes. lol
[11:03] <Jowi> EtherealPurple: insert the windows install cd and run it in admin mode or something. when you have a command prompt you just type in "fdisk /mbr". That should take care of it - but - i haven't used a winxp cd in a loooooong time so i'm a bit rusty. should be a command called fixboot or something there as well...
[11:03] <EtherealPurple> haha
[11:03] <EtherealPurple> okay, thanks
[11:03] <jdubbin> fixmbr is all I need to get rid of grub right
[11:03] <EtherealPurple> i got to the console, i just didn't know what to do there
[11:03] <okapi_> hi guys, I need help about root access. I read docs in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo but I can not do it.
[11:03] <funkyHat> okapi_, do sudo -i
[11:04] <thrush_2> okapi_, you need a root console?
[11:04] <mik3> what's a good ftp server to install
[11:04] <okapi_> Yes, I can do it
[11:04] <funkyHat> okapi_, why do you need a root console?
[11:05] <okapi_> My proglem is I can not sign as root in GUI
[11:05] <Monkey12> Try the user password you gave to it in the installattion
[11:06] <okapi_> Yes, that is okay but I can not configure anything
[11:06] <Sashi> hmm
[11:06] <Sashi> in mozilla flash sounds doesnt work
[11:07] <Monkey12> What do you mean, oakpi_?
[11:07] <Monkey12> oakpi_?
[11:07] <Monkey12> okapi_?
[11:07] <Monkey12> Third's a luck:)
[11:07] <GNU-GPL> hi
[11:07] <okapi_> Example, I can not set up samba server
[11:07] <ksmurf> hello
[11:07] <Jowi> okapi_: sudo gdmconfig. there you can set an option that will allow root to log in.
[11:07] <Sashi> help
[11:07] <h0sl3r> Anyone use fluxbox?
[11:08] <GNU-GPL> h0sl3r, NO
[11:08] <h0sl3r> ok
[11:08] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:08] <Jowi> h0sl3r: probably someone, yes
[11:08] <Jowi> :-)
[11:08] <Monkey12> budale
[11:08] <okapi_> Every time I put admin password, it doesn't give me access
[11:08] <h0sl3r> I installed fluxbox with synaptic, but I didnt get the fluxbox_generate-menu tool.
[11:08] <bytefoo> [poll] : Should I upgrade to breezy? [y]  [n] 
[11:08] <zblach> hi
[11:08] <Sashi> n?
[11:08] <GNU-GPL> okapi_, ehm... you mean.. ehm sudo ?
[11:08] <zblach> anyone here use mathematica?
[11:08] <JazyLNX> i'm trying it right now
[11:09] <JazyLNX> i'll let ya know bytefoo
[11:09] <zblach> bytefoo, n. wait a few weeks
[11:09] <Jowi> okapi_: log in as your normal user. open a terminal. type in "sudo gdmconfig" and when you're asked for a password type in your USER password.
[11:09] <ksmurf> bytefoo YES!
[11:09] <CookedGryphon> zblach, i have an A at further maths A level
[11:09] <zblach> CookedGryphon, does this mean you use mathematica?
[11:09] <Sashi> so neways anyone help me with my sound prob
[11:09] <GNU-GPL> CookedGryphon, :)
[11:09] <CookedGryphon> and mathematica got me thru it
[11:09] <CookedGryphon> :)
[11:09] <fanskapet> smbclient -N -L //FILESERVER
[11:09] <fanskapet> Error connecting to 81.233.197.124 (Connection refused)
[11:09] <okapi_> Jowi, is that enable root access?
[11:09] <fanskapet> Connection to FILESERVER failed
[11:09] <zblach> CookedGryphon, looks like i
[11:09] <fanskapet> anyone have any idea why smbclient wants to connect to my external ip ?
[11:09] <zblach> 'm in the right place
[11:10] <newubuntuuser> HI there!
[11:10] <zblach> CookedGryphon, i'm having keyboard issues with it. any suggestions?
[11:10] <GNU-GPL> fanskapet, check your config
[11:10] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:10] <Jowi> okapi_: that will run the setup for gdm (login manager). in there you will have an option to enable root to log in using the graphical interface.
[11:10] <newubuntuuser> Could anyone here help me with an issue I am experiencing?
[11:10] <zblach> newubuntuuser, elaborate, and let us get to it
[11:10] <vanberge_> newubuntuuser, just go ahead and ask
[11:10] <GNU-GPL> newubuntuuser, ask your question and maybe
[11:10] <CookedGryphon> zblach, not really, i wasn't enlightened back then, i was using a windows version
[11:10] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: just ask. if someone can help they will :-)
[11:10] <fanskapet> GNU-GPL: hmm should i relaly need a config file to connect via smbclient?
[11:10] <zblach> ah. maybe its a general keyboard issue then
[11:11] <newubuntuuser> I am trying to get my HD recognized and formatted, but it seems to dislike its Mac formatting
[11:11] <okapi_> Jowi: tx, I'll try it.
[11:11] <fanskapet> does it even have a configfile!?
[11:11] <newubuntuuser> Thaks!
[11:11] <fanskapet> i tought only the smbd had one
[11:11] <zblach> my delete and backspace keys just leave boxes
[11:11] <ksmurf> hello all.  I hope this doesn't sound too noobish but is there a way to "slim down" a ubuntu kernal and remove all the stuff I don't want? or do I have to compile my kernel?  If I have to recomiple a kernel do I use a vanilla or one from The repos?
[11:11] <GNU-GPL> fanskapet, sure it does
[11:11] <blendor> #ubuntu-fr
[11:11] <Jowi> ubotu, tell newubuntuuser about windowsdrives
[11:11] <GNU-GPL> !fr
[11:11] <ubotu> from memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:12] <Sashi> ok so can someone please help me with my sound prob
[11:12] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: follow the advice ubotu gave you. it will recognise mac hd as well.
[11:12] <Sashi> flash videos have no sound
[11:12] <GNU-GPL> !tell Sashi about flash
[11:12] <h0sl3r> What is a good window manager that doesnt take up much resources?
[11:12] <newubuntuuser> It hasn't so far. I have tried to configure it, but it won't. I am trying to use it as my main harddrive
[11:12] <sorush20> how do I get Ubuntu to redetect my USB printer...
[11:13] <h0sl3r> What is a good window manager that doesnt take up much resources?
[11:13] <vanberge_> any fluxers in here that could help me with generating a menu??
[11:13] <GNU-GPL> h0sl3r, fluxbox, blackbox and such
[11:13] <vanberge_> fluxbox-generate_menu doesnt seem to exist
[11:13] <h0sl3r> vanberge_: im having the same problem.
[11:13] <Makoqui> irc-hispano.org
[11:13] <Jowi> h0sl3r: xdm, but it is VERY limited. wdm might be better for you.
[11:13] <newubuntuuser> ubotu: help please!
[11:14] <vanberge_> h0sl3r, hopefully there is a ubuntu fluxer in here
[11:14] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: ubotu is not a person
[11:14] <h0sl3r> Jowi: I dont really like wdm
[11:14] <Jowi> h0sl3r: me neither :-)
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> newubuntuuser, ubotu is a bot
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:14] <CookedGryphon> h0sl3r, try apt-get fluxconf
[11:14] <zblach> Jowi, lmfao
[11:14] <CookedGryphon> and vanberge_
[11:14] <h0sl3r> CookedGryphon: that menu editor does work.
[11:14] <Jowi> :-)
[11:14] <vanberge_> CookedGryphon, i have that already... that allows to edit menu, but that is it
[11:14] <newubuntuuser> I am at a loss. This is my first time trying linux, so please bare with me.
[11:14] <vanberge_> why does my name have _...
[11:14] <vanberge_> brb
[11:14] <CookedGryphon> oh rite, ah well
[11:15] <h0sl3r> vanberge_: I tried getting the menu genorator by compiling fluxbox, but make fails.
[11:15] <okapi_> how can you synchronize 2 Kcontact?
[11:15] <GNU-GPL> newubuntuuser, we're patient
[11:15] <newubuntuuser> how can the bot help me?
[11:15] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: unfortunatley, i do not have any experience with mac drives
[11:15] <vanberge> wow
[11:15] <Jowi> !mac
[11:15] <ubotu> Jowi: Are you smoking crack?
[11:15] <vanberge> was signed in on workspace 2
[11:15] <Jowi> not like that apparently :-)
[11:15] <vanberge> h0sl3r, there must be one somewhere...
[11:15] <Jowi> !macdrives
[11:15] <ubotu> Jowi: Syntax error in line 1
[11:15] <vanberge> no fluxers in here have used a menu generator???
[11:16] <sorush20> how can I rescan my USB ports
[11:16] <DaMi3n> how do i upgrade from hoary to breezy??
[11:16] <Xorlev> I seem to remember using a command that returned all other commands related to a topic. Any ideas?
[11:16] <okapi_> how can you synchronize 2 Kcontact?
[11:16] <zblach> DaMi3n, if you have to ask that question, i recommend you don' tuntil its become stable
[11:17] <newubuntuuser> !macdrive
[11:17] <ubotu> newubuntuuser: I haven't a clue
[11:17] <h0sl3r> Anyone know a small/fast email client?
[11:17] <newubuntuuser> !initialize
[11:17] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, newubuntuuser
[11:17] <DaMi3n> zblach some one told me the answer yday but i forgot it..
[11:17] <vanberge> h0sl3r, outlook EXPRESS  :-)
[11:17] <h0sl3r> uhhh
[11:17] <DaMi3n> zblach i just have changed my mind abt it and wanna upgrade
[11:18] <h0sl3r> vanberge: i need one for linux.
[11:18] <newubuntuuser> obunto isn't very helpful either.
[11:18] <Jowi> aren't there a channel for ubuntu-ppc?
[11:18] <zblach> DaMi3n, i was just kidding
[11:18] <vanberge> h0sl3r, i know... i was kidding
[11:18] <newubuntuuser> Is there an initialize-command in Linux, that I maight be able to use?
[11:18] <vanberge> ;-p
[11:18] <okapi_> Please, anyone can help about synchronizing Kcontact between 2 pc?
[11:18] <DaMi3n> zblach : so how do i upgrade 2 breezy
[11:18] <newubuntuuser> !harddrive initialize
[11:18] <ubotu> newubuntuuser: Are you on ritalin?
[11:18] <newubuntuuser> !yes
[11:18] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, newubuntuuser?
[11:18] <zblach> DaMi3n, dunno
[11:19] <newubuntuuser> !help
[11:19] <ksmurf> Damin your can change the sources.list file ( hoary to breezy ) or dload the release and add it to your apt's
[11:19] <zblach> why wouldn't delete and bksp keys work?
[11:19] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxbox?
[11:19] <Jowi> zblach: in a terminal?
[11:20] <zblach> Jowi, in a gui spawned by a shell script
[11:20] <h0sl3r> Or has anyone in here successfully installed Demu?
[11:20] <DaMi3n> ksmurf... come again plz wha changes exacly
[11:20] <Jowi> zblach: no idea...
[11:20] <newubuntuuser> Does anyone know how to initialize an unformatted drive in ubuntu?
[11:20] <ksmurf> dami3n I can send you my sorces.list file if you want
[11:21] <DaMi3n> newubuntuuser: wha do u mean by iniialize
[11:21] <maar> can any1 help me setup wine, running ubuntu 5.10? please
[11:21] <DaMi3n> ksmurf, sure that'll be great
[11:21] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: you can try to open a terminal and type "sudo gparted" that might give you a clue.... it is a graphical partitionmanager
[11:21] <Heuristic> beefcake, ay
[11:21] <newubuntuuser> I'll give it a shot...
[11:22] <h0sl3r> vanberge: looks like im gonna have to do this manually
[11:22] <vanberge> h0sl3r, hold on...
[11:22] <vanberge> i may be onto something
[11:22] <maar> can any1 help me setup wine, running ubuntu 5.10? please
[11:23] <thellama> what is a good parition utility?
[11:23] <Hoxzer> :E
[11:23] <durt> why do you need wine?
[11:23] <Hoxzer> ........this didn't seem to be so stable
[11:23] <h0sl3r> thellama: fdisk
[11:23] <thellama> thanks
[11:23] <Hoxzer> just tried to mount hdb and the whole system just crashed
[11:23] <Jowi> thellama: gparted is graphical
[11:24] <egytrack> how to get packages like webmin for ubuntu ?
[11:24] <Jowi> Hoxzer: hdb might wrong. try hdb1, hdb2 etc
[11:24] <Hoxzer> Jowi: but the whole system crashed :E
[11:24] <Jowi> Hoxzer: yes, i know. i did the same mistake just today
[11:24] <helio7> I've lost the ability to burn via gnomebaker/ cdrecord etc.  Can someone remind me the cdrecord syntax so I can capture the errors & request expert help???
[11:25] <Hoxzer> but I think linux is stable
[11:25] <Hoxzer> *thought
[11:25] <jonphilpott> thrush_2: perhaps you might know the answero this; i just moved from suse 9.3 to ubuntu, but i can't burn dvds in nautilus anymore, asks me to insert a blank dvd when there is one in there, lots of message in syslog about hdc commands fialing, etc.
[11:25] <garvint> I'm trying to do administrative tasks in Ubuntu, but can't seem to figure out the root password.  Is there one?
[11:25] <Jowi> Hoxzer: it is stable. but root is almighty and can do even stupid things :-)
[11:25] <thellama> Jowi: oh, fdisk is not? Then i'll definately choose gparted
[11:25] <vanberge> h0sl3r, i got it dude...
[11:25] <helio7> This is the 2nd time I've lost the ability to burn cds/dvds & last time I had to reinstall; any ideas are welcome
[11:25] <vanberge> the guys in #fluxbox helped me...
[11:26] <h0sl3r> vanberge: ok how?
[11:26] <Jowi> thellama: yep, give it a go. it is my favourite
[11:26] <dooglus> my 'bash' environment has LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in it.  Any idea how I can change it?  Is there a "language dialog" somewhere?
[11:26] <zblach> why wouldn't my delete and backspace keys work?
[11:26] <vanberge> go here, copy the text, paste it into a file, then run that file as a shell script from your /home/username/.fluxbox directory
[11:26] <vanberge> http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fluxbox/trunk/util/fluxbox-generate_menu.in?&view=markup
[11:26] <thellama> thanks Jowi :)
[11:26] <ksmurf> DaMi3n Did u get it?
[11:26] <jdermer> after updating packages with synaptic do i need to restart ?
[11:26] <DaMi3n> ksmurf, yea
[11:26] <Jowi> dooglus: dpkg-reconfigure locals
[11:26] <helio7> dooglus have you edited .bashrc ?
[11:26] <dooglus> helio7: yes, lots
[11:26] <DaMi3n> ksmurf, i am changin my repos now
[11:27] <ksmurf> jdermer only if it's a kernel upgrade...
[11:27] <twibbler> jdermer: No....
[11:27] <dooglus> helio7: but nothing to do with LANG
[11:27] <h0sl3r> vanberge: cool thanks
[11:27] <riddlebox> can anyone tell me i f the apt repositories are as good as actual debian sources?
[11:27] <ksmurf> Dami3n Nvidia?
[11:27] <helio7> dooglus it's a set -option
[11:27] <vanberge> h0sl3r, let me know if questions, but worked fine for me
[11:27] <helio7> dooglus type set and see what it's set too
[11:27] <Jowi> dooglus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locals - will change the language settings for the whole system
[11:27] <DaMi3n> ksmurf, yea
[11:27] <luite> does anyone know how I can find out why a kernel (which I built using make-kpkg) does not boot at all? It just says "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel.", and then.. nothing... nothing at all
[11:27] <Hoxzer> and again
[11:27] <Hoxzer> :E
[11:28] <Hoxzer> it was hdb2 btw
[11:28] <Hoxzer> :E
[11:28] <ksmurf> DaMi3n pm me
[11:28] <DaMi3n> uh how
[11:28] <Jowi> Hoxzer: so it worked or it crashed again?
[11:28] <Hoxzer> I just write sudo moun /dev/hdb2 /mnt/share
[11:28] <Hoxzer> it crashed
[11:28] <Jowi> ouch
[11:28] <dooglus> Jowi: it doesn't work: chris@chrislap:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locals
[11:28] <dooglus> Package `locals' is not installed and no info is available.
[11:28] <Hoxzer> everything just froze
[11:28] <dooglus> helio7: set shows me what it's set to.  how does it get set though?
[11:28] <dandelion> dooglus: 'locales'
[11:29] <Jowi> dooglus: sorry, i made a typo. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:29] <Hoxzer> what should I do?
[11:29] <helio7> dooglus help set|less
[11:29] <dooglus> chris@chrislap:~$ echo $(set | grep LANG)
[11:29] <dooglus> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[11:29] <Xorlev> Ack, is anyone else getting dependency hell with libgtk2.0-dev? I'm trying to add it through Synaptic, but it won't go in and isn't marking this one package as a dependency, then when I try to mark it it won't mark these other packages.
[11:29] <DaMi3n> i accepted i
[11:29] <Hoxzer> it is Fat32 partition
[11:29] <dooglus> ok, locales is working.  it's showing a list of locales in a funny text gui
[11:29] <jdermer> anyone using the new firefox beta?
[11:30] <egytrack> why ignore me ?
[11:30] <h0sl3r> vanberge: awsome. it worked.
[11:30] <h0sl3r> gonna switch to fluxbox now, brb
[11:30] <Jowi> Hoxzer: can you try: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb2 /mnt/whatever
[11:30] <egytrack> ow .. !
[11:30] <newubuntuuser> No luck. It doesn't recognize it at all... I guess, I will have to install Windows first, then intialize the disk with XP, then go back toi ubuntu... $#!+
[11:30] <helio7> can someone tell me the correct syntax for CDrecord to capture debug info and figure out why cd-burning broke?
[11:30] <riddlebox> can anyone tell me i f the apt repositories are as good as actual debian sources?
[11:31] <dandelion> riddlebox: your question makes no sense at all...
[11:31] <Jowi> newubuntuuser: sorry i couldn't be of more help
[11:31] <beefcake> what do you mean by as good as?
[11:31] <beefcake> figure out what you need, check if they are in the ubuntu repositories
[11:31] <riddlebox> is every package thats in debian repositories in ubuntu's repos?
[11:31] <beefcake> proly not
[11:31] <ksmurf> riddle no
[11:31] <bsharitt> When trying ot compile stuff on Breezy, I get the following error: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[11:31] <bsharitt> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executable
[11:31] <bsharitt> Any ideas on what its wrong?
[11:32] <kashms>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY kashifs
[11:32] <bsharitt> And I do have gcc 4.0.01 installed
[11:32] <Hoxzer> JowI: :D ok.. solved
[11:32] <Xorlev> bsharitt: Permissions errors?
[11:32] <Hoxzer> there were somekind of problem ;/
[11:32] <Xorlev> Sounds like it can't write the generated executable.
[11:32] <Hoxzer> qtparted shows I have 2 parttions both size 112GB
[11:32] <Hoxzer> but My HDD is only 120GB
[11:32] <maar> any1 here have experience with world of warcraft under ubuntu?
[11:33] <Jowi> Hoxzer: tell me your insights. i want to double my diskspace as well! haha
[11:33] <lakcaj> Does anyone know why alsaconf is not in alsa-utils?
[11:33] <erUSUL> Hoxzer, it can be a logical partition inside the extendez partition
[11:33] <Hoxzer> Jowi: I cannot mount the other one
[11:33] <linlin> what will change between the breezy preview taht is out and the final release expected oct 13th ?
[11:33] <Hoxzer> erUSUL: yes the file system is extended
[11:34] <Jowi> linlin: bugfixes
[11:34] <linlin> is it worth installing it now? or will i have to do it again in a month
[11:34] <zblach> alright
[11:34] <zblach> i have an X window open
[11:34] <filloy> ok, back again with the same problem. At kdm startup, i cant log in because i cant type, it only shows squares, not letters. Somebody told me like an hour ago, that i should change the lenguage to fit my keyboard. Now its in spanish and i still get the strange boxes instead of letters, ideas ?  thanx
[11:34] <zblach> and i can't use ctrl, alt, shift, del, bksp
[11:34] <zblach> why not?
[11:34] <Jowi> linlin: personally i would wait, but some people say its stable enough.
[11:34] <newubuntuuser> Jowi: Thanks for trying!
[11:35] <Hoxzer> ok, now how can I change the permissions of the directory what I mounted
[11:35] <Jowi> zblach: what is your language?
[11:35] <zblach> ...english
[11:35] <newubuntuuser> See you all later! :-)  Good luck with everything!
[11:35] <Hoxzer> I just want to change the owner ;/
[11:35] <Jowi> zblach: try: setxkbdmap en
[11:35] <smx> Does someone here know if the Java runtime package is the Sun package or a "dummy"? I
[11:35] <erUSUL> Hoxzer, chmod ??
[11:36] <Jowi> zblach: try: setxkbmap en (typo again)
[11:36] <smx> I've installed the standard package and jre still deosn't work.
[11:36] <zblach> Jowi: "Error Loading new keyboard desc"
[11:36] <twibbler> Hoxzer: se the chown command ...
[11:36] <Jowi> filloy: if no one can help you here then you can try in #kubuntu which uses kdm instead of gdm
[11:37] <zblach> on a related note, how can i use the media buttons on my keyboard with xmms?
[11:37] <filloy> Jowi yep, ive tried there :P but the same people here and there :P ill try again, thanx
[11:37] <Jowi> zblach: wierd.
[11:37] <dooglus> thanks for the 'locales' help.  that worked fine once I logged out and in again.
[11:37] <Jowi> dooglus: you're welcome
[11:38] <topyli> i hate web browsers. where is the full-featured browser with less resource-hogness and full gnome integration? i'd love epiphany if it supported firefox plugins
[11:38] <windex> i'd like to reccomend, uh, firefox.
[11:38] <windex> :P~
[11:39] <dooglus> does ubuntu default to using "en_US.UTF-8"?  If so, it should be changed to something non-UTF until they fix grep.
[11:39] <windex> firefox uses less resources than mozilla suite :)
[11:39] <filloy> windex: or maybe.....firefox :p
[11:39] <twibbler> dooglus: im confused grep works fine ...
[11:39] <topyli> windex: like in firefox, you can disable flash until you click on the flash entity. you can't do that in epiphany
[11:39] <dooglus> twibbler: grep doesn't work well with UTF languages
[11:40] <twibbler> dooglus works fine on my system ...
[11:40] <windex> dooglus, grep is broken?
[11:40] <Jowi> topyli: that's my favourite plugin. ever.
[11:40] <topyli> firefox is not very gnome'y
[11:40] <NightBird> hm...
[11:40] <windex> topyli, sure it is.
[11:40] <windex> :P
[11:41] <Jowi> i would love to have a browser with firefox features but DILLO speed!
[11:41] <topyli> i like epiphany. i have to start nagging to the developers so they start supporting firefox plugins :)
[11:41] <windex> i think firefox would be better if it was as fast as using telnet to fetch pages.
[11:41] <ksmurf> I want to recompile my kernal.... do I use a kernel from kernel.org or one from the repo?
[11:41] <topyli> ksmurf: use the ubuntu source
[11:41] <NightBird> hm...
[11:41] <NightBird> a bunch of grey stuff...
[11:42] <NightBird> something tells me...
[11:42] <NightBird> that this isn't right..
[11:42] <smx> Anyone had success installing java runtime plugin for Firefox?
[11:42] <ksmurf> topyli.... is ther an i686 smp source?
[11:42] <Jowi> NightBird: huh? :-)
[11:42] <h0sl3r> Anyone suggest some cool fluxbox themes
[11:42] <topyli> ksmurf: the sources are general, not for any architecture
[11:42] <Hoxzer> GEEEEZ :E
[11:42] <dooglus> windex: it's an old bug.  grep is very slow with UTF languages: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148
[11:42] <NightBird> hm... I can't change the default input...
[11:43] <ttyS0> where are kernel modules stored?
[11:43] <CookedGryphon> i would love to have a full featured poerating system with all the apps i'll ever need on my 128mb usbdisk, but there's reasons it aint
[11:43] <erUSUL> dooglus, what is your problem whith grep
[11:43] <erUSUL> ?
[11:43] <NightBird> and the input connections configuration has aboslutely nothing in it..
[11:43] <windex> dooglus, oh. uh. whenever i have to parse lots of files i just write code. :P
[11:43] <Hoxzer> do I need to mount fat32 with some special way too?
[11:43] <Jowi> CookedGryphon: i think there is a slax distro for that....
[11:43] <ksmurf> topyli.... thanks ... THis is my first attempt at this
[11:44] <CookedGryphon> Jowi, not really, it doesn't do everything i want
[11:44] <Jowi> Hoxzer: in /etc/fstab i have this: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[11:44] <topyli> ksmurf: when you configure your kernel, grab the ubuntu config file from /boot and start from that. then change what you need
[11:44] <dooglus> erUSUL: see http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 for a proper description of the bug
[11:45] <ksmurf> topyli .... thanks
[11:46] <topyli> ksmurf: are you using a 686-specific ubuntu kernel now?
[11:46] <Jowi> Hoxzer: for manual mount: mount -t vfat /dev/fat32partition /mountpoint. to make it read/writable for everyone put it in fstab and add umask=000. that should do it.
[11:46] <Xorlev> Okay, problem. I have libfontconfig1 2.3.2-1 installed, but when I try to install libfontconfig1-dev it looks for a ubuntu version of it, which it seems its not. Is there a way to force it?
[11:46] <ksmurf> yes an 686 smp but there are things I don't want and that are causing errors
[11:47] <dooglus> windex: some of ubuntu's cron jobs use grep too - so your system probably still uses grep even if you don't.
[11:47] <X7C> how can i modify the location database for the weather report gnome panel applet?
[11:47] <windex> dooglus, thats fine, i don't expect to have grep processes running on 200gb of text in a cron job either :)
[11:47] <topyli> ksmurf: if you are, you should be able to find its config file in /boot. happy hacking! :)
[11:47] <waldomiro> hi! i just installed the latest ubuntu version, in a clean machine, but it never asked me for a root password? Is there a default password?
[11:48] <NightBird> YES!
[11:48] <ksmurf> I have it open
[11:48] <ksmurf> and thanks
[11:48] <NightBird> a winner is I!
[11:48] <dooglus> windex: it doesn't need to be a large file.  grepping a 2mb file can take hours.
[11:48] <ksmurf> is ACPI only for laptops?
[11:48] <dooglus> my 2GHz P4 takes 40 hours to grep a 2 meg file.
[11:49] <mikaoj> is it impossible to install fonts using the Live cd? :)
[11:49] <ttyS0> i should backup /lib/modules before installing new modules, am i right?
[11:49] <twibbler> dooglus: opening a 2mb file takes ages ..... dont think grep is really at fault ....
[11:49] <crimsun> mikaoj: it's perfectly feasible. You can put them in ~/.fonts/ for instance
[11:50] <crimsun> mikaoj: then rerun ''sudo fc-cache -v -f''
[11:50] <dooglus> twibbler: it is grep's fault, definitely.
[11:50] <jaku> hi, i don't have any more the kernel img in root, how can i re-install it? do i have to reinstall ubuntu as new?
[11:50] <crimsun> jaku: do you mean you lack /boot/vmlinuz* ?
[11:50] <dooglus> twibbler: and opening a 2mb file doesn't take very long at all!
[11:50] <twibbler> dooglus: why search a 2mb file ?........ why creat a 2mb file you need to search /...
[11:50] <JazyLNX> jaku what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <waldomiro> hi! i just installed the latest ubuntu version, in a clean machine, but it never asked me for a root password! Is there a default password?
[11:51] <dooglus> twibbler: what if I have a 2mb file that I need to search?
[11:51] <dooglus> !sudo
[11:51] <kkrizka_> ffmpeg/avcodec.h: No such file or directory
[11:51] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:51] <zblach> waldomiro, root account is diabled by default
[11:51] <kkrizka_> do you know which pkg contains that file?
[11:51] <mikaoj> crimsun, there aren't any .fonts folder in /home/ubuntu/... isn't that where is it supposed to be?
[11:51] <dooglus> waldomiro: check that RootSudo URL
[11:51] <erUSUL> waldomiro, there is no root in ubuntuyou just use sudo
[11:51] <s00d> Hi. I'm having a little problem getting Rhythmbox to work playing mp3s. Is it because I have totem-xine installed of totem-gstreamer?
[11:51] <jaku> I install gtkpod from the debian repo... and I did0t see that it needs a new kernell.. now in /boot i have onli memtest86
[11:51] <waldomiro> ok, but  ] 
[11:51] <zblach> CookedGryphon, you said you've used mathematica?
[11:51] <erUSUL> mikaoj, just create it yourself
[11:52] <mikaoj> oh ok, thanks :)
[11:52] <twibbler> dooglus: then I would say grep should take a few miutes ... I search about 100 files of about 1.5mg in total in 10 seconds ...
[11:52] <automat> wow...this is funny
[11:52] <topyli> sometimes, the debian menu is not in the gnome menu, sometimes it is. weird. this is in breezy
[11:52] <waldomiro> ok but when i try to update, it keeps asking for a password
[11:52] <zblach> waldomiro, just type in your norm. password
[11:52] <erUSUL> waldomiro,  type youre user password
[11:52] <waldomiro> oh ok, thanks
[11:52] <erUSUL> waldomiro,  type your user password
[11:52] <jaku> JazyLNX,
[11:52] <JazyLNX> yo
[11:52] <dooglus> twibbler: the bug doesn't always happen
[11:53] <zblach> CookedGryphon, did it evaluate stuff like (x+1)(x+2)
[11:53] <automat> 640x480 is hard to deal with
[11:53] <Hoxzer> jowi?
[11:53] <twibbler> dooglus: ok im now intrigued, isolate when it happens ....
[11:53] <funkyHat> anyone get skype working with an Audigy LS?
[11:53] <dooglus> twibbler: but, make a file like this:     yes | head -1000000 > /tmp/2mb
[11:53] <dooglus> then grep it like this:           LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 grep y /tmp/2mb | wc -l
[11:53] <dooglus> it should take many hours to run
[11:53] <dooglus> (if you have that locale generated)
[11:54] <dooglus> (otherwise it'll take less than a second)
[11:54] <waldomiro> now i got "cannot run /usr/bin/update-manager as root:
[11:54] <waldomiro>  invalid password."
[11:54] <s00d> "Error: There is no plugin installed to handle an mp3 file"
[11:54] <kkrizka_> howcan I find which pakacge contains what files?
[11:54] <Hoxzer> somebody help me to mount fat32
[11:54] <twibbler> dooglus ..... why use grep tht way ?....
[11:54] <jaku> if I start the grub show me anly this memtest
[11:54] <kkrizka_> s00d: you need gstreamer-mp3 or mpeg I think
[11:55] <s00d> kkrizka_: what if I'm using xine?
[11:55] <dooglus> twibbler: the 'g' in grep stands for "general".  It is a general search tool.  It should work any way you use it.
[11:55] <s00d> Is it possible to have xine and gstreamer both installed?
[11:55] <dooglus> I used it that way to isolate when the bug happens, like you asked
[11:55] <kkrizka_> s00d: it's possible, I though xine handles mp3s by defaul thong
[11:55] <s00d> Hrm. Then why's Rhythmbox being fussy?
[11:55] <twibbler> true but like anything if one way is slow use the faster method ...
[11:55] <waldomiro> second time worked well, thanks
[11:56] <kkrizka_> s00d: rhythmbox uses gstreamer
[11:56] <dooglus> twibbler: that's what I do, but it's not good that the default language when ubuntu installs itself is one that doesn't work with grep.
[11:56] <s00d> Really? That's weird I could havfe sworn I had xine installed on my last ubuntu system and was using rhythmbox. Oh, well, maybe I was mistaken. But thanks anyway.
[11:57] <kkrizka_> s00d: you can have both isntalled at the same time
[11:57] <s00d> Synaptic doesn't let me?
[11:58] <s00d> Oh, right.
[11:58] <s00d> I didn't have gstreamer-mad installed.
[11:58] <twibbler> dooglus: we can go round in circles .... but it falls to the fact a complicated search string even if it is a simple search will take longer ... so make the search simpler ... then it works out f the box ...
[11:59] <s00d> can xine do FLAC? totem-xine seems to hang when I try to play them.
[11:59] <zblach> i've got all sorts of keys on my keyboard that i can't use. how can i use em?