[12:03] filloy: there are locale-dependent packages for KDE, KOffice and KDM (IIRC) and you should install them. [12:04] filloy: they will have names like 'kde-i18n-....', 'koffice-i18n-...' and 'kdm-i18-...' (not sure about the kdm ones) [12:05] blissex, maybe this is just to complicated to be my problem :P what may have caused this ? [12:05] filloy: obviously you should get the 'en-US', 'es-ES' and 'es_MX' ones of those... [12:05] filloy: if your system were set for locale 'C' or 'POSIX' or 'en_US' everything would be OK. But since you have set it part one way and part another... [12:06] blissex, ok i found the kde component for spanish :P ill install it...in a sec.. [12:06] filloy: the proper thing to do is to ensure that _everything_ (system locales, X locale, KDE locale, X keyboard type, KDE keyboard type, ... are all of the same type). [12:06] filloy: which APT frontend are you using? [12:07] blissex ok [12:07] blissex APT ? [12:07] filloy: package manager... [12:07] blissex uhmm, the aplicationg for getting files ? Synaptic [12:08] filloy: OK... BTW, I suspect that if there are mexica packages they will be like 'i18n-mx' [12:08] filloy: I cant double check on my system because I am doing some package installs right now and they lock the database. [12:08] blissex, uhmm, there isnt....only es :( [12:09] filloy: it probably has castillan for various contries... [12:09] blissex ok, found the kde es, and the koffice, no luck with kdm [12:10] filloy: I was not sure about KDM, I seem to remember once it has its own locales, but they now may be part of the KDE ones. [12:10] blissex maybe just part of kde. ok, 1 min and they are ready [12:10] filloy: next thing, make sure you have 'xkeycaps' installed and run it. [12:11] blissex one sec.... [12:12] blissex ok, now im installing xkeycaps... [12:12] filloy: BTW, have you seen this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpanishDocumentation and its links? [12:13] never... [12:13] filloy: it may be helpful... [12:13] blissex but i had hoary yesterday and it worked great with spanish keyboard :P maybe its something strange here [12:13] filloy: you are now using Breezy? === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] blissex, yes [12:14] !breezy [12:14] I guess breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/ [12:14] filloy: monster. You are tyring to corrupt me. [12:14] blissex ah ? [12:14] filloy: besides you should have configured Hoary with the spanish locales too. [12:15] blissex uhmmm, no, it worked right off with english locales, and spanish keyboard... [12:15] filloy: ah yes, but you should have gotten the spanuish/mexica locales too. [12:16] blissex maybe :) darn, so its cuz breezy ? [12:16] filloy: however, now there is the strong possibility that there is something broken, not that there is an incomplete configuration. [12:16] filloy: yes. === filloy feels sad about his breeze issue === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === delltony wants a breezy hat but can't find one [12:20] darn, ok, then, when october comes, ill try to update to stable :P and see what comes up :P [12:20] for now, ill try to get ndiswrapper to work, thing that ive been trying to do for the past 6 hours [12:21] anyone here uses ndiswrapper with bcmwl5(a) ? [12:22] filloy: dont use ndiswrapper... [12:22] blissex what alternative do i have ? [12:22] filloy: fix it here and now. [12:22] blissex uhmm ? [12:22] filloy: do a proper mexica KUbuntu setup. [12:22] filloy: assuming it is not a bug. Even with Breezy probably it is not a bug. [12:23] filloy: so have you started 'xkeycaps'? [12:23] blissex ahh, talking about the lenguage :P....ok, ill do it here... [12:23] blissex i cant start xkeycaps [12:23] Blissex: curious you said don't use ndiswrapper for wireless lan what else is there cause id be curious on this too [12:23] filloy: as to WiFi alternatives, http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxWiFi.html and the idea is to get a card that is supported by an open source native driver. [12:24] filloy: and why can't you start 'xkeycaps'? [12:24] blissex ahhh, everybody told me that, but i wont spend money :P .....ok, now, xkeycaps says Erorr: Cant open display [12:24] filloy: you also got problems with a proper X setup. In a proper X setup the 'DISPLAY' env variable is set and exported. [12:25] filloy: try 'xkeycaps -display :0' [12:25] blissex cant open display :o [12:26] filloy: with zero, not an "o". [12:26] blissex :P ha, told you im noob, dont get mad at me :) [12:26] :-) [12:26] blissex :s the same.... [12:27] filloy: thats almost impossible... [12:27] Xlib: conection to ":0.0" refused by server [12:27] xlib no protocol specified [12:27] error cant open display :0 [12:27] filloy: "refused" is not the same. === Limit [n=gurke@p54ABB5F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] filloy: start 'xkeycaps' in a Konsole not as 'root'. [12:28] blissex :P that was it ajjaja now i am at it :) [12:28] blissex ok, now ive selected my keyboad with the right lang [12:28] filloy: 'xkeycaps' as you can see draws a picture of the kyeboard, select one that looks closest to the one you got. [12:29] filloy: it is probably a 105 keys one, but not sure for Mexico. [12:29] blissex yes, microsoft (Sorry :() 105 keys [12:30] filloy: 105 keys, and spanish layout? [12:30] blissex yes [12:30] blissex should i put write output ? [12:30] filloy: what does that mean? [12:31] filloy: ah, the button, no pointless. [12:31] in xkeycaps theres an option saying Write Output, which i think stablishes the lang.. [12:31] blissex ok...:p [12:31] filloy: no, it does not anything to the language. [12:31] blissex, ok, ive selected the keyboard and lang... [12:32] filloy: the only thing is to make sure that "PC 105 key, wide Delete, tall Enter, XFree86; Spanish" looks exactly like the kyeboard you have. [12:32] blissex ok, not exactly, but VERY close [12:32] filloy: it must look _exactly_ the same. Key for key. [12:32] blissex, ok, then let me find it.. [12:32] filloy: if it does not look exactly the same, select another keyboard type. [12:33] filloy: the whole purpose here is to make sure that you know which exact keyboard type you have got, because the _exact_ keyboard type has to go in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' and the KDE regionalization stuff. [12:33] blissex ok... [12:34] filloy: it may be a 102 key, wide delete, tall enter. [12:35] blissex nope, the strange thing is that the Microsoft Keyboard box says its 105 key...and here the keys dosnt match... [12:36] filloy: in what way don't they match? [12:37] filloy: give an example or two of mismatch [12:37] blissex ok, i have [ and{ in one key, and in the screen it says i should hav { ' and " [12:37] filloy: thats a big mismatch. [12:38] blissex [] are in other keys [12:38] blissex, i have like 5 exaples of that... [12:39] blissex what should i do ? [12:40] filloy: does the keyboard have keys with obviously spanish characters, like and ? [12:41] blissex yes [12:41] filloy: where? What's on the same key as those characters? [12:41] blissex yes... [12:41] filloy: where? What's on the same key as those characters? [12:42] filloy: whats on the same key as the character? [12:42] filloy: what's on the same key as the character? [12:42] blissex they match (i cnat type them cuz im in my laptop, the desktop is the one in spanish) === dutch [n=dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] blissex those characters match [12:42] filloy: dont type them, describe them./ === flugh [n=jim@pool-70-22-51-173.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] filloy: as in: the inverted questions mark key also has the 'i' symcol and is next to the 'Retroceso' key [12:43] Blissex: inverse ? is in the same place, the n with the stick right up is in the same place......... [12:44] filloy: or the 'esimo' key also has the 'a underscore' key and is the top left one. [12:44] the same place as what? === arentie [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] Blissex: in my keboard and in the xkeycaps [12:44] filloy: I am wasting my time. [12:45] Blissex: uhmm, i think im not fully understanding you... [12:45] filloy: I did not ask you to tell me whether they are the same in your keyboard and keycaps. [12:45] I asked you MANY TIMES to tell me what other symbols are on the same key as those two on the keyboard. [12:45] Blissex: so basically to get hotpluggin to work with my wifi all i gotta do is add hotplug wlan0 to the network/interfaces file? [12:46] Blissex: ok, now i understood :)..... ok in the same key as ? its the inverted / and ' in the same key as the inverted ? is a inverted ! [12:47] Hi everyone, I have my Linksys wifi card installed via ndiswrapper, but it doesn't stay activated...could someone help me? [12:47] filloy: so, the key that has the inverted "?" has the inverted "!" and the key that has the "" has the "\"? === DewDude [n=dewdude@mo2.us] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] Hi everyone, I have my Linksys wifi card installed via ndiswrapper, but it doesn't stay activated...could someone help me? [12:49] Blissex: ok, inverted ? has inverted ! [12:49] filloy: also, just to make sure, has the key with the (cedilla c) got the "}" ? [12:49] I had my Linksys Wifi card working in Ubuntu, but I wanted KDE [12:49] Blissex: i dont have cedilla c [12:50] Blissex: in the keyboard.... [12:51] so, i'm running breezy preview now [12:51] !breezy [12:51] breezy is probably the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/ === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-93.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] seems to be running fine [12:51] although my kmenu still says kubuntu 5.4 [12:52] filloy: please look at the bottom of the keyboard and tell me the exact model number that is probably printed there? === locomorto [n=locomort@c211-28-250-31.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === _P_ [n=princosc@host-84-220-136-119.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] Blissex: ok, my keyboard is a Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 1.0A model 1027 === _P_ [n=princosc@host-84-220-136-119.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["Hello,] [12:54] I'm on breezy atm (fresh kubuntu preview install, with a few minor enhancements to kde and my sources.list): I would also like to install amarok 1.3.1 [12:54] now [12:55] It is my understanding that i need taglib 1.4 to run >1.3, and my question is how would I get that? [12:55] I did try to use the ones in the forum for hoary, but they wont install [12:55] filloy: looking it up... [12:56] Blissex: ok [12:56] So, are there any .debs for libtag? [12:56] or do i have to compile it myself? [12:57] filloy: I think that there should be an additional code that is specific to the language version. [12:58] Blissex: want me to look it up in the internet ? [12:59] filloy: I am doing that, but it should be printed on the keyboard. Each different keyboard layout has a different part number. [12:59] locomorto: tablib 1.4 won't work with amarok 1.3.1? did you try [12:59] I can't install it [01:00] Blissex: there isnt anything, just that: Model: 1027 [01:00] ibtag1c2 conflicts with libtag1" is the error i get [01:00] http://people.linux.org.tw/~chihchun/CDDP/www/international/Spanish might be useful BTW [01:00] well [01:00] my amarok works [01:00] libtag1 is the one im trying to install [01:00] then again, i did a hoary install and dist-upgrade [01:01] I had it working under hoary so it kinda feels odd not to have it :( [01:01] I liked the podcast thingy [01:01] well [01:01] all i have is libtag1c2 installed [01:02] i also only have amarok 1.2.4 === DewDude reloads package data and does today's upgrade [01:03] I have 1.2.4 as well [01:03] and its not in the repos (1.3 or 1.3.1) [01:03] 1.3.1 of libtag? [01:03] Blissex: grrrr, cant find it.....maybe in the box theres a web page... [01:04] filloy: still looking [01:04] if you've got libtag1c2 installed..you don't need libtag1 [01:04] filloy: if you have the box there is almost certainly a part number [01:05] Blissex: is Serial Number usefull ? [01:05] filloy: no, part number [01:05] FCC ID? [01:05] you can sometimes look products up based on thier FCC ID [01:05] Has anyone had trouble activating their wlan0? [01:05] Blissex: ok, found it x800135-003 [01:06] it is a wireless keybaord so probably it has some FCC ID, but probably not useful. [01:06] no [01:06] filloy: OK, let's have a look for the part number. [01:06] everything has an FCC ID [01:06] you can get SOME information from it [01:06] DewDude, yep, here it is :) [01:07] what is it? [01:07] dewdude uhmm, no info from it :S not even the part numer, not even the serial... [01:07] dewdude c3k1027 [01:07] that's the FCC ID? [01:07] that looks...small [01:07] FCC ID [01:08] dewdude right up the fcc id theres a sign which says Canada 210, dont know what it means :S [01:08] well [01:08] it's assigned to microsoft [01:08] it is a valid FCCID number [01:09] 27 mh [01:09] mhz [01:09] dewdude ? found anything ? [01:10] it's made by microsoft [01:10] unfortinually all the stuff is sealed [01:10] so i can't access additional info [01:10] dewdude darn :( [01:10] but they got block diagrams, schematics, users manuals, photos [01:10] i'm just not getting a model number [01:11] DewDude: we got the model number, but it draw a blank in Google. [01:12] cant find anything :S [01:12] well [01:12] i told you, it's made by microsoft [01:12] that's who owns the FCC license [01:12] :P [01:12] c3k = microsoft [01:12] 1027 = product ID [01:12] filloy: is the keyboard part of a wireless set? [01:13] filloy: like this one? http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=039 [01:13] Blissex x80016-005 [01:14] filloy: or is it this one? http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=040 [01:14] Blissex its the Wireless Optical Desktop Comfort Edition [01:14] Blissex thats the name of the set... [01:15] hold on [01:15] i'm getting a PDF of the users manyual [01:16] blissex http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=057 [01:16] blissex here it is [01:17] filloy: I am also doing a search of '"Wireless Optical Desktop Comfort Edition" teclado' to see if I get a photo of the spanish edition too [01:17] http://www.microsoft.com/spain/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/systemrequirements.aspx?pid=028 [01:18] blissex yep, that is [01:18] http://compras.univision.com/products/fullsize/256/3217256.jpg === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] anybody know the repo for ktorrent? [01:19] blissex, yep that is... [01:19] hey nalioth [01:19] is that the one (large photo)? [01:19] Blissex, you found it :) === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] filloy: has your got a thin 'Enter' too? [01:21] filloy: on your keyboard which two key are between the 'Enter' and the 'Backspace' Keys? [01:22] Blissex wait, the enter is the only key which isnt the same, let me take a look [01:22] blissex, it has the large enter [01:22] filloy: so it is not really the same... [01:22] anybody know how to run ktorrent? I installed a deb package of it but cant figure out how to run it [01:23] blissex nope, not the same, took a closer look and some keys are in other locations.. [01:23] want me to take a photo of it and send it or something ? [01:25] anybody know how to fix this: http://hater2win.pastebin.com/360153 [01:26] filloy: uhm.... [01:27] filloy: you know you could describe it, but you seem to have some difficulty doing so... [01:27] <_chavo> hater2win: install pcre [01:27] Blissex, ok, ill try it again.. === ctw [n=ctw@129-79-193-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] filloy: what matters is the block of keys to the right next to the 'Retroceso' and 'Intro' keys [01:28] _chavo: pcre? sudo apt-get install pcre? [01:28] blissex next to the backspace key, theres a key which has an inverted ! and a inverted ? [01:28] filloy: good... [01:28] <_chavo> try libpcre [01:28] filloy: whats the key to the right of the "P" key? === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] and tonight on 'What's My Keyboard?', our contestant is Blissex .... and the star prize is *64* :) [01:29] blissex next to the p there a key who has ' and with shift you get two dots ( . . ) but upper the letter. === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] _chavo: no pkg coming up [01:30] <_chavo> hater2win: it's libpcre3 [01:30] gdh fun :) poor ol Blissex has helped me for more than a day :P and i dont seem to be helping him to help me :P [01:30] hater2win: in this situation, you use apt-cache search to find packages like that na,e [01:30] heh in this case yes libpcre3 [01:31] gdh: ty for suggestion [01:31] filloy: what does two dots ( . . ) but upper the letter mean? [01:31] it says i already have newest version [01:32] umlaut? [01:32] Blissex, lenguage stuff, like upper the u we can put two dots, one over each stick ;) [01:32] filloy: ohi ohi thats a weird keyboard... [01:33] filloy: what's to the right of the "L" key? [01:33] blissex heehhe, i know, the weird thins is the lenguage :P here its called dieresis, but its not used anymore.... [01:33] blissex next to the L i have an N with a stick [01:33] <_chavo> hater2win: did you install ktorrent from source or deb [01:33] Blissex: Portuguse is popular in Brazil so umlauts might be present .. I know there are no umlauts in Spanish. [01:34] sorry, meant 'south america' rather than brazil [01:34] _chavo: downloaded an rpm (suse) and did sudo alien ktorr_file.rpm [01:34] <_chavo> hater2win: also, did you try qtorrent? [01:34] gdh: I am looking at keyboard layouts in 'xkeycaps' and there are spanish layouts with dieresis, so yes its probably for LA, but there is none that resembles his keyboard. [01:34] <_chavo> hater2win: looks like maybe it was built against a diff version of pcre [01:35] cool :) [01:35] _chavo: hmmk, ill remove [01:35] <_chavo> hater2win: qtorrent is in therepos [01:35] filloy: and to the right of the L and the N with a stick? [01:35] _chavo: is it better than ktorr? [01:35] <_chavo> I haven't trie ktorrent [01:36] Blissex ok, theres the L, then the , then [ with { and < but looking up, not to the left. [01:36] filloy: wait.... [01:36] why doesn't konqueror suggest an application to open files (links) with any more? It did some days ago, but it suddenly has stopped, and just gives me an "open" button with whch I have to choose the application myself... the associations thingie in the configuration is correct... === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === _andi [n=andi@p5487B3E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:40] filloy: the keyboards whose layout is know to Xorg are those listed here: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [01:41] filloy: there are a few Microsoft variants listed there, you need to find out which one is closest to the keyboard you have and then put the corresponding code in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' === ctw [n=ctw@129-79-193-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:41] Blissex, ok ill try it [01:41] filloy: I have found out that KDE has a long list of keyboard code types, so it recognizes it automatically. But not X, and thus probably not KDM. [01:42] filloy: it is probably either the "microsoftoffice Microsoft Office Keyboard" or the "Microsoft Wireless Multimedia Keyboard" [01:42] Blissex sound more familiar the Wireless Multimedia Keyboard [01:43] Blissex btw, i dont have anything under /x11/xkb/rules/ [01:43] filloy: thats extremely wrong. [01:44] filloy: have you got anything under "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/" (note the capitalization) [01:44] Blissex :S uhmm, wait a sec, think i do :P [01:44] Blissex, ok, now im in that file :P sorry [01:45] Blissex microsoftmult is the code. [01:45] Blissex, so it has to be attached to xorg.conf [01:46] Blissex in Idintifier ? [01:46] Riddell: I think k3b 0.12.4 . Is there anyway it can make it to breezy or is it only bug fixes from now on? [01:47] filloy: === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] [01:47] Blissex ? [01:48] _chavo: i get nothing but tracker errors in qtorrent =. [01:48] =/* [01:48] filloy: yhaving some system problems here, wait [01:51] Blissex brb [01:53] filloy: bah! [01:53] Blissex im back [01:54] Hi everyone...Does anyone know how I activate my wlan0? [01:54] where do you guys install things to? (when you compile them)? [01:54] Blissex, sorry, thought you would spend more time :P ... [01:54] My wlan0 worked in Ubuntu but not kubunt === Blissex bizarre, my Kicker has started looping [01:54] hater2win: they must be installed to '/usr/local' [01:55] ah i see [01:55] filloy: in the 'Keyboard' section === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] Blissex ok, it says ImputDevice, idintifier Generic Keyboard [01:56] filloy: and it is not a generic keyboard... [01:56] Blissex i should put microsoftmult [01:56] filloy: which options have you got? [01:56] microsoftmult [01:56] Blissex, my wlan0 does not stay activated nor do I receive an IP address? [01:56] filloy: "XkbGeometry" or "Xkbmodel" [01:57] Blissex Xkbmodel [01:57] filloy: what is the "XkbLayout"? It should be "es" [01:57] Blissex it says la, Latin America, ill change it to es === dave__ [i=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] filloy: "la" may be right. [01:58] filloy: wait again. [01:58] filloy: "la" is right probably. [01:59] Blissex ok, ill leave it there [01:59] filloy: Apart from "XkbModel" and "XkbLayout", any other "Xkb" options? [02:00] Blissex XkbRules is set to xorg, xkbmodel is set to pc105 and xkblayout is se to la. Driver is set to kbd [02:01] filloy: just change then the "XkbModel" to one of the microsoft ones, you may be lucky. [02:02] Blissex ill change it to microsoftmulti :) [02:02] filloy: sounds OK.... [02:02] Blissex, ok, then, shall i try rebooting ? [02:02] filloy: no need to reboot. [02:03] blissex, ok, just went out to the kdm to see if its ok [02:03] filloy: just logout, and before logging in, press CTRL-ALT-BACKSAPCE [02:03] filloy: that will restart X and restart KDM too. [02:03] Blissex ok, did that...starting kdm again [02:03] Blissex still having the Square stuff [02:04] filloy: try to see if the login works though. [02:04] Blissex didnt work [02:04] Does anyone here know how a can maintain the activation of my wlan0 [02:04] ? [02:05] arentie: there are several ways. Consider reading 'man 5 interfaces' for one. There are many Debian wireless HOWTOs. [02:05] filloy: that leaves me perplexed. [02:05] filloy: because it is very unlikely that the keyboard type now is wrong. === _jose [n=jose@62-14-159-92.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] Blissex me too :P maybe illl just re-install kubuntu, i dont have anything installed.....and no files bla bla [02:06] Blissex yep, its strange, maybe with the Keyboard and lenguage detect of the install cd this should work [02:06] filloy: did you check what is under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/ ? [02:06] Blissex: thanks for the info...where do I find 'man 5 interfaces' for one? [02:06] Blissex yes, and found that microsoftmulti was the option [02:06] arentie: that's a command line. [02:07] filloy: so there are files under there... === _jose [n=jose@62-14-159-92.inversas.jazztel.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:07] Blissex yes, sorry :P [02:07] filloy: can you paste the contents of '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' to some place like pasteBin.com? [02:08] Blissex yes, wait a sec [02:08] Blissex: sorry I'm a newbie...I can't keep my Linksys WMP54G activated for some strange reason...will this give me some sort of progress? [02:09] arentie: no idea what you mean by activated, that will make the configuration persistent. [02:09] Blissex: I had my wlan0 working in ubuntu, but I can't seem to get it working in Kubuntu [02:09] arentie: and ''does not work'' is not that clear. === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] Blissex: What I mean is that I go to Kcontrol and go to networking, I click on wlan0, select activate, and it immediately deactivates [02:10] Blissex www.pastebin.com/360207 [02:10] Blissex one hell of a paste :|:P [02:11] arentie: if you are using 'ndiswrapper', thats buggy. [02:11] Blissex: My means of internet connection is via a wireless bridge through my eth0 [02:11] arentie: try to extract the card and put it back. [02:11] arentie: wait a second -- you have configured a wireless _bridge_? [02:12] they make wireless "bridges" which is a piece of hardware tha goes from wifi to wired [02:12] i'm not sure what configuration is involved with those [02:13] Blissex: Yes, I did an apt-get install linux-686; then, I installed ndiswrapper via kynaptic; then, I rebooted and my card was recognized, but when I try to activate it wlan0 immdieatley deactivates [02:14] DewDude: they are diabolical stuff. But seems to say that he is trying to bridge between 'eth0' and 'wlan0'... [02:14] oh [02:14] arentie: anything can happen with 'ndiswrapper', and did you download and configure the drivers for your card too? [02:15] filloy: that says it is getting 'microsoftmulti' all right. Try the other Microsoft keyboard types... [02:15] Blissex: Yes, I successfully configured my drivers via ndiswrapper...I went throught the whole protocol [02:15] arentie: have you looked at 'dmesg | tail 50 | less' to see if there is any obvious error message? [02:16] Blissex: When I say that I'm using a wireless bridge, I have a linksys wireless bridge, which basically connects a non-wifi network card to a wireless network...it pretty cool for 150 bucks and not needing to install drivers [02:17] arentie: thats actually a router... and it is irrelevant to your problem, which is with your card. Or is it? [02:17] ......... [02:17] why are you installing wireless lan drivers then [02:17] that's a seperate piece of hardware [02:17] it shouldn't have any communication with the PC [02:17] Blissex: Without my wireless bridge, I would be "dead in the water" as far as internet. I have a wireless card also on my PC, but it won't stay activated [02:18] arentie: have you looked at 'dmesg | tail 50 | less' to see if there is any obvious error message? [02:18] Blissex: I have a eth0 and a wlan0. My eth0 is fine, but my wlan0 does not stay activated when I attempt to activate it. [02:19] arentie: look at the last entry in http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/53.html it may be relevant [02:19] Blissex: How do I look at: 'dmesg | tail 50 | less'? [02:19] arentie: execute than in a terminal window === dreamwave [n=ubuntu@vnnyca-cuda1-cablebdl-70-34-243-160.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] arentie: if you dont know much your way around the system, use a natively supported card. Using 'ndiswrapper' often requires a lot of system knowledge, [02:20] Blissex ok, found something, it says microsoftmult, not microsoftmulti, maybe changin it ? [02:20] filloy: yes, and try the other types too. === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] Blissex: I read the link that you sent, but I am almost convinced that I am using the drivers that came with the CD [02:21] arentie: then you may be unlucky. === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] Blissex: I got my wlan0 to work in Ubuntu, but I can't in Kubuntu [02:22] arentie: they are exactly the same code. [02:22] Blissex: GNOME blows...KDE rules [02:22] Blissex ok, i cant type anything [02:22] filloy: what does that mean? [02:22] Blissex...the same thing with the Boxes :S [02:23] filloy: change the keyboard type again... [02:23] arentie explain what do yoiu mean by not working [02:23] Blissex: just for "shits and giggles"...what's a natively supported card? [02:23] filloy: remember to CTRL_ALT-BACKSPACE before logging in. [02:23] Blissex yep, doing that [02:23] just tried out the kubuntu breezy live preview. i had trouble setting up the wireless. I'm using the ubuntu preview right now. can anyone help me with this? [02:23] arentie: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxWiFi.html [02:25] arentie: also look at this vert bizarre but informative site: http://www.linux-wireless.org/Install-HOWTO/LinkSys.WMP54G/ [02:26] Blissex KDM isnt starting now, i canceled the last time, and now it just stays in verbose log in [02:26] filloy: try CTRl-ALT-F7 [02:27] ilba: to explain what I mean by not working: I did an apt-get install linux-686 on my PC, next I installed ndiswrapper via Kynaptic, I rebooted, I saw the kernel load the ndiswrapper successfully, I attempted to activate my wlan0 via Kcontrol, but it immediately deactivates [02:27] filloy: or perhaps the X server is not astarting because of wrongly typed keyboard type. [02:27] Blissex ok, ill try changing [02:28] arentie: also look here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Q_21145473.html === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.29] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] Blissex aaarrrgghhhh !!!......rebooted, that wasnt the problem....dont know what it is, but ill restart [02:29] arentie what nidswrapper ver you are using? and how come it worked on gnome and not kde ? I have made mine work on both using ndiswrapper 1.2 [02:29]