[12:00] <zblach> i.e. i have a key on my keyboard that i want to open a calculator when i hit it
[12:00] <dooglus> twibbler: my search string was the letter 'y'.  you can't get much of a simpler search string.
[12:00] <pr1r> hey all
[12:00] <twibbler> dooglus: so "grep y filename" ....
[12:01] <kkrizka_> what program would you suggest for screen capture movies?
[12:01] <zblach> kkrizka_, just hit 'printscreen' really fast
[12:01] <pr1r> so i guess this thing is actually legit
[12:01] <dooglus> twibbler: that's what I was doing.
[12:01] <pr1r> lol
[12:01] <Jowi> s00d: if you installed totem-xine and gstreamer0.8-flac it should work fine.
[12:01] <dooglus> twibbler: set LANG to be en_US.UTF-8 and grep for 'y' in /tmp/2mb.  it takes 2 days.
[12:02] <Equinox> Anyone have suggestions to get sound working?  For some reason it stopped
[12:02] <zblach> Equinox, did you fiddle with user settings?
[12:02] <dooglus> Equinox: does sound still work on your TV?  If not, if my be a user fault.
[12:02] <Equinox> zblach- I made sure the via82cxxx module(IDE) wasn't inserted
[12:02] <twibbler> dooglus: the display will take 2 days yes ......
[12:02] <Equinox> dooglus- Works fine on the Tv.
[12:02] <pr1r> ok so im new everyone im gonna sound like a complete herb im sure when i ask this
[12:02] <s00d> Thank you, jowi.
[12:03] <pr1r> but im having a problem getting cds to work
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: redirect the output to a file then,  or to /dev/null
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: it will still take 2 days
[12:03] <pr1r> and other apps that come with this
[12:03] <twibbler> dooglus: running now ........
[12:03] <pr1r> any suggestions?
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: taking a while?
[12:04] <zblach> CookedGryphon, is there some way to directly interface mathematica with my brain? it'd make math classes much easier
[12:04] <schasi> mathdrugs?
[12:05] <twibbler> dooglus: Its returning a match for virtually every character ... so it is writing output for every line.   yep it will take a while, but it is not a grep problem ..... It is standard IO...
[12:05] <Equinox> What devices should I check permissions on for sound?  Where can I see if it's detected it?
[12:05] <dooglus> twibbler: try exporting LANG to be en_US and run it again.  it will finish within the second.  It's a bug with how grep works on UTF.
[12:05] <erUSUL> Equinox, /dev/snd/*
[12:06] <erUSUL> Equinox, lsmod | grep snd
[12:07] <dooglus> I only bring this up because today is the bug's 1st birthday.  It's been in the ubuntu bugzilla for 1 year today and still isn't fixed.
[12:07] <fanskapet> http://users.sidvicious.se/fanskapet/screenshot09_10_2005_59_24.png
[12:07] <fanskapet> ahh at last im happy with my current ubuntu installation :P
[12:07] <fanskapet> nice and clean :P
[12:07] <Equinox> erUSUL, Sound seems to be in there.
[12:07] <Lie-Algebra> Hi,  kernel headers 2.5.999 test - 7 -bk - 17  are installed on my system according to synaptic but my kernel is 2.6.10-5-686. To  compile some software, do i need to uninstall the first headers and get the ones from 2.6.10-5-686 instead ?
[12:08] <erUSUL> Equinox, run alsamixer
[12:08] <Equinox> erUSUL, Okay.. Got it.. What does it do? :)
[12:09] <twibbler> dooglus: OK your are right if I change from en.GB.UTF-8 to en.US it works in abou 2 seconds ...
[12:09] <erUSUL> check the volume of the varius channels
[12:09] <nemik> today is software freedom day?
[12:09] <twibbler> dooglus: however if I then set the lang back to en.GB.UTF-8 it runs in 2 seconds ... so not a grep problem ... but a definition of the utf
[12:09] <dooglus> twibbler: do you mind if I ask why you were so resistant to seeing the bug, even though I told you exactly how to reproduce it?
[12:09] <nilss> hi. which filesystem is the initrd of ubuntu? i need to add a device node because it can not mount my harddisk.
[12:10] <dooglus> twibbler: oh, my mistake, you still don't believe me.  :)
[12:10] <twibbler> dooglus: because I still dont think there is a bug in grep itself ....
[12:10] <Feral_Kid> Is there an easy way to incorporate testing packages from the Debian archives into ubuntu 5
[12:10] <winner> hey guys
[12:10] <twibbler> dooglus: however there is a bug.... and im intrigued to find what it is ...
[12:10] <dooglus> twibbler: grep works, and produces the right output, so you could say there's no bug.  but it takes far to long to do it, so I would say that's a bug.
[12:10] <winner> im having trouble installing ubuntu
[12:11] <dooglus> twibbler: the reason you don't see it for the GB locale is that you didn't generate that locale.
[12:11] <nemik> winner, what happens?
[12:11] <Sashi> hmm
[12:11] <Sashi> how do i unrar stuff?
[12:11] <Sashi> i do unrar .rar
[12:11] <Sashi> but it needs commands
[12:11] <pr1r> winrar
[12:11] <nemik> hehe
[12:11] <LasseL> unrar e *.rar
[12:12] <dooglus> twibbler: edit /etc/locale.gen and run 'sudo locale-gen' afterwards to generate other locales
[12:12] <winner> nemik: well, this is the third time i've had an error now. the first two was for "deboostrap" or something like that. i rebooted, took my cd out, and put it back in, and this time i think i got a bit further. the error that i just got was for the kernel package.
[12:12] <twibbler> dooglus: the GB is the one I used all along ... the bug is in the setup of the LANG system variable because grep is now working with UTF ...
[12:12] <uber_spaced> is there a way to get ubuntu to automatically install a 2nd video card / monitor?
[12:12] <LasseL> actually I think you can just right click a .rar file in nautilus and select Extract Here
[12:12] <Feral_Kid> I am trying to install the latest version of fwbuilder... I see that is it available at a testing package, bit all I get is a problematic versionn
[12:12] <zblach> can i run the calculator program with my calculator button on my keyboard?
[12:12] <winner> btw this is a laptop. old sony pcg-f560 p3 600mhz w/ 128mb ram. not much.
[12:12] <erUSUL> dooglus, twibbler, we can agree that there is a regression in funcionality/eficience of the tool ;)
[12:12] <dooglus> twibbler: I'm wondering if the resistance you have to seeing this bug is common, and that's why nobody will fix it.
[12:12] <pr1r> yeah lot of people i know using something old to test this before we all switch
[12:13] <pr1r> im on an old dell laptop
[12:13] <d4rkstar> hi guys got a question
[12:13] <pr1r> craptop
[12:13] <winner> somebody help me please.
[12:13] <d4rkstar> error loading key bindings configuration in xchat
[12:13] <d4rkstar> how can I fix that
[12:13] <nemik> winner, are you doing it on a modern system or soemthing old?
[12:13] <OPC-failure> help; I'm only finding problems on the forums for people for whom cd-burning has broken, and I'm not finding solutions... can anyone guide me to help fix hoary so that it will burn cd's correctly like it used to?
[12:13] <winner> nemik: its a pentium 3 600MHz with 128MB ram. not too modern. not that old either.
[12:13] <Red_Bullet> tell me please the best console torrent client
[12:13] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:13] <twibbler> dooglus: I dont have a resistance to bugs... Im just evry used to the bug being somewhere else than the program ... this does look like a configuration issue and saying the bug is with grep itself maybe misleading ...
[12:13] <nemik> winner, not bad, are you doing a server install or the regular desktop one?
[12:14] <Equinox> Crap.  No errors, modules are inserted.. But no sound. Sound pretends like it is playing.
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> hey
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> guys dnt no if this is a reg question
[12:14] <twibbler> Ive been using grep for 15 years and never had a problem with it ..
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> but im having probs with the dns's on kubuntu
[12:14] <winner> nemik: regular desktop. its an old laptop.
[12:14] <pr1r> well i just started using this os but i know torrentspy and isohunt are good sites and abc and azuresus are good for getting the files
[12:14] <okapi_> jowi, are you there?
[12:14] <nemik> could have problems on its hardrive
[12:14] <pr1r> for windows
[12:14] <pr1r> lol
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> i have set the gateway in the configs so it sticks
[12:14] <dooglus> twibbler: I think you spelt the locale wrong.  use "en_GB" not "en.GB".  then the grep bug will come bakc.
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> but nuthin seems to resolve still
[12:15] <dooglus> twibbler: if you look at the source of grep you'll be more convinced where the fault lies
[12:15] <Red_Bullet> please tell me console torrent client
[12:15] <codenut> Does ubuntu care about old PNP BIOS?
[12:15] <nemik> winner, i had a similar problem on an old computer who's hard drive was broken
[12:15] <winner> nemik: could it be the hard drive?
[12:15] <pr1r> whats gst-register
[12:15] <twibbler> dooglus: I am really intrigued now ...
[12:15] <Red_Bullet> please tell me console torrent client
[12:15] <nemik> winner, i think that is probably it
[12:15] <pr1r> every app i run tels me to do something with gst-register
[12:15] <Equinox> Is there any sort of daemon that needs to run under Ubuntu for sound to work?  Maybe it died
[12:16] <codenut> ask ubuntu about PNP BIOS
[12:16] <winner> nemik: damn. i dont know how im going to replace the HD. i'm going to reboot and try again for one more time, see if i get the same error. maybe its the cd, i don't know.
[12:16] <dooglus> twibbler: grep is running over the whole file for every match, resulting in a performance proportional to the SQUARE of the file size.
[12:16] <typo> could someone please try to rename a file in a "sync" mounted filesystem (a pendrive will do) with nautilus? I can't get it to work
[12:16] <typo> The rename text entry appears and then becomes non-editable right away
[12:16] <nemik> winner, yea try reburing the CD at a slower speed
[12:16] <typo> in my home dir this doesn't happen
[12:16] <dooglus> twibbler: there are patches attached to the bug report if you're interested.  it's just that nobody seems to want to apply them.  redhat have fixed it months ago, by the way.
[12:17] <mike_> anyone here
[12:17] <twibbler> dooglus: well Ill look at the code I want to know ...
[12:17] <aitor> anybody now what program uses 1027 udp port?
[12:17] <aitor> and 5438?
[12:17] <mike_> how about making aim work on linux
[12:17] <nemik> mike, try gaim
[12:17] <vanberge> mike_, use gaim
[12:17] <dooglus> twibbler: are you in a position to fix the problem?
[12:17] <zblach> how can i bind key '0xa1' to open the gnome calculator?
[12:18] <mike_> where can I get that?
[12:18] <Feral_Kid> aitor: netstat -ap -udp
[12:18] <vanberge> mike, probably installed already
[12:18] <aitor> ok
[12:18] <nemik> mike, it should be installed
[12:18] <vanberge> applications > internet > gaim
[12:18] <nemik> hehe ok vanberge, you answer from now on! :D
[12:18] <twibbler> dooglus: not personally.... but do know a man who can ...
[12:18] <mike_> sorry guys im very new to linux
[12:18] <{GuNNeR}> I was wondering if someone could explain to me why ubuntu is a good distro choice
[12:18] <vanberge> sorry nemik :-)
[12:18] <fr3on> hi :)
[12:18] <nemik> mike, no problem, hope you enjoy it
[12:19] <mike_> well once i learn how to use it, i might like it.. lol
[12:19] <ubuntu> new ubuntu is looking good :)
[12:19] <twibbler> dooglus: and he is more of a why person than I am ...
[12:19] <nemik> gunner, it has the best hardware support of any distro IMO and is very stable. and apt-get!
[12:19] <{GuNNeR}> nemik: I'm looking for someone thing won't make me rely a lot on gui and help me familiarize myself with the command line - is that possible with ubuntu
[12:20] <nemik> gunner, yes i do this
[12:20] <ubuntu> gunner you should check out suse 10 RC1
[12:20] <tga> {GuNNeR}, Ubuntu has some gui customization but there is nothing that _relies_ on any gui apps
[12:20] <nemik> gunner, when you install it, instead of hitting enter at the first screen, type in server
[12:21] <nemik> it will install no GUI
[12:21] <nemik> that is what i use for my SMS server
[12:21] <tga> let the guy install the whole thing, then play with it
[12:21] <tga> you only need a server install if you know what you're doing
[12:21] <zblach> how can i bind a key to run a program?
[12:21] <dooglus> twibbler: do be sure to point him at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 so he doesn't have to start from scratch.
[12:21] <tga> ubuntu, how exactly is suse better than ubuntu?
[12:22] <ubuntu> i thought he was looking for something more advanced
[12:22] <nemik> tga is right, starting with GUI is good and then playing more with the terminal. once you are familiar, try the minimalist server install
[12:22] <twibbler> dooglus: he wont start from scratch ....
[12:22] <tga> how exactly is suse more advanced than ubuntu?
[12:22] <nemik> yea really?
[12:22] <karlheg> ubuntu, How many software packages are there pre-comiled and ready to use for Suse?
[12:22] <karlheg> ubuntu, What about scientific data processing applications and development libraries?
[12:23] <karlheg> (universe and multiverse)
[12:23] <WeLsHWiZaRd> anybody here gd with new kubuntu????????//
[12:23] <WeLsHWiZaRd> LOL
[12:24] <twibbler> dooglus: thanks for a most interesting chat ....
[12:24] <tga> {GuNNeR}, go with regular Ubuntu.. after you are familiar with it you can do everything in the console
[12:24] <{GuNNeR}> thanks tga
[12:24] <WeLsHWiZaRd> yeh but i can
[12:24] <WeLsHWiZaRd> just im having DNS probs
[12:24] <dooglus> twibbler: no problem.
[12:24] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[12:24] <_lui_> tga, I found ubuntu much more easy than suse in certain things like it comes with an easy update support
[12:24] <LethAL-Rocks> It won't find my WLAN Adapter after installing drivers for it's chipset
[12:24] <vanberge> {GuNNeR}, when i tried to learn a bit about command line, i did alot of bash tuturials
[12:24] <vanberge> there are alot of them on line that talk about bash scripting, etc...
[12:24] <twibbler> dooglus: and it is going to bug me till its fixed ... so I will get onto it as soon as he decides to come back from his tab ....
[12:25] <fr3on> im newbee it so weird? using sudo apt get? wer it come from i mean the file wer did it get it? i used to windows in downloading program but sudo and apt get is amazing
[12:25] <maar> o my god, i actually got WoW running !! :) but no sound. :(
[12:25] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[12:25] <{GuNNeR}> is there any good documentation on linux in general, something similar to linuxcommand.org?
[12:25] <dooglus> 'tab', twibbler?  what's that?
[12:25] <twibbler> dooglus: smoke !!!!
[12:25] <dooglus> ooh, i see.
[12:25] <Xorlev> Question: On some sites, I've been seeing quote boxes and such with text that doesn't show up. I can select it, but its not there unless I copy and paste it into something else. Example: Subnet Matrix Table on http://linuxreviews.org/features/ipv6/. It shows up in lynx, but not Konqueror or FireFox. Any ideas?
[12:25] <Sly> maar quick tip may not solve it try killing esd befor you play the game
[12:25] <vanberge> {GuNNeR}, www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:25] <Blissex> {GuNNeR}: dozens of good books, the best are tge Stevens ones, but perhaps a bit too advanced.
[12:26] <tga> fr3on, 1) you might want to spell out your words
[12:26] <maar> Sly, ok, how do i do that?
[12:26] <Sly> . killall esd
[12:26] <CookdGryphon> does ne1 kno where i can get help with my winmodem?#
[12:26] <fr500> hello
[12:26] <Sly> remember to set it running again after you finished ..........
[12:26] <maar> sly, ok, thx, i'll try that :)
[12:26] <tga> fr3on, apt-get gets its packages from the ubuntu repositories.. that could be a ftp site or a cd or something else
[12:26] <malv> is there a way to apt-get update the preview release?
[12:27] <CookdGryphon> interesting you should mention killall esd there.... slmodem uses alsa which can sometimes conflict with esd.................
[12:27] <Sly> may not solve it, but then again it just might :)
[12:27] <root__> hery guys i just installe breezy. my x keeps crashing, how do i reconfigure xserver?
[12:27] <root__> hery=hey
[12:27] <crimsun> root__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <fr500> usually I access my computer remotely using VNC, but there is an issue, i gotta login first, is there a way for me to see login manager and login remotely?
[12:27] <tga> root__, or X -configure
[12:27] <yahalom> q
[12:27] <tga> fr500, remotely over your home network or the net?
[12:27] <fr500> over the net
[12:28] <Sly> not a issue to smile about
[12:28] <rainmaker> is there an app to select wich services to run at startup?
[12:28] <yahalom> exit
[12:28] <jaku> how can i remove a package that is too new (not in te ubuntu repo) and reinstall the ubuntu one in the same time?
[12:28] <fr500> tga, over the internet
[12:28] <fr3on> i have a problem i wanna change my ubuntu to kubuntu i get this message E: /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-de-base_20050406_all.deb:  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive: Success
[12:28] <jaku> i can use only apt
[12:28] <Sly> maar , let me know if it works :)
[12:28] <fr500> fr500 in synaptic look for the package and select remove completely
[12:28] <fr500> then reinstall
[12:29] <fr500> jaku, that was for you
[12:29] <fr500> jaku, apt-get remove
[12:29] <tga> fr500, you can configure your login manager to allow remote logins, but you don't want to open that to the net.. what you could do is forward that port to your remote machine through a vpn or ssh tunnel
[12:29] <fr500> tga, i have a public ip address
[12:30] <tga> fr500, good for you
[12:30] <Sly> lol
[12:30] <fr500> lol
[12:30] <fr500> tga, how can i do it?
[12:30] <tga> fr500, it's not a good idea to open up X security-wise
[12:30] <fr500> (via the net) then i'll do the ip ip tunnel
[12:30] <NightBird> hm... how would I give permissions to a directory to a user?
[12:31] <vanberge> NightBird, chmod command
[12:31] <tga> fr500, sudo gdmsetup, XDMCP -> enable
[12:31] <vanberge> NightBird, but, you could probably use sudo depending on what you are doing
[12:31] <fr500> and then how do i connect?
[12:32] <_lui_> If anyone have breezy right now, can you tell me what's new in breezy by now?
[12:32] <zblach> how can I bind a key to run a program
[12:32] <tga> fr500, on the remote machine choose 'remote session' or something like that in the login manager and type in the address
[12:32] <hawking> how can i connect to newsgroups and read news in ubuntu? any programme for that?
[12:32] <tga> hawking, pan is nice
[12:32] <fr500> NightBird,  you can give permisions to owner, group and others
[12:32] <tga> hawking, you can also use email clients like mozilla-thunderbird
[12:32] <rainmaker> is there an app to select wich services to run at startup?
[12:32] <fr500> NightBird, so you can add the user you want to your group or assign permissions to others either way will work
[12:33] <fr500> tga, then, how would i connect to hte server?
[12:33] <tga> fr500, on the remote machine choose 'remote session' or something like that in the login manager and type in the server's address
[12:33] <fr500> ok
[12:33] <fr500> gotta try
[12:33] <fr500> bbl
[12:34] <tga> heh, opening up gdm to the net is not a good idea
[12:34] <rainmaker> is it safe to have the same root password as user passwd?
[12:34] <tga> rainmaker, as long as you don't allow remote root logins, maybe
[12:35] <CookdGryphon> depends, what's ure user password rainmaker?
[12:35] <CookdGryphon> :P
[12:35] <twibbler> rainmaker: as long as nobody else knows our password ...
[12:35] <GeekS> #ubuntus-es
[12:35] <GeekS> #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <rainmaker> tga how do i disallow remote root logins?
[12:36] <tga> GeekS, try /join #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <Bjerrk> tga: lol
[12:36] <tga> rainmaker, they're already off by default in sshd and gdm
[12:36] <rainmaker> cool
[12:37] <rainmaker> by the way you dont happen to know how to select wich services that runs at startup?
[12:37] <tga> rainmaker, by hand you do it with update-rc.d
[12:37] <rainmaker> is it a config file?
[12:37] <tga> rainmaker, no, it's a tool that messes with the symlinks in /etc/rc*
[12:38] <rainmaker> hm
[12:38] <rainmaker> how do i open it?
[12:38] <tga> there are tools that help with that, but I can't think of one right now
[12:38] <tga> ntsysv-like
[12:38] <tga> maybe someone else can help with that
[12:38] <GTroy> wow big channel
[12:38] <rainmaker> how do i use update-rc.d?
[12:39] <Bjerrk> GTroy: yeah, it's cool :)
[12:39] <tga> rainmaker, update-rc.d -f yourservicename remove
[12:39] <rainmaker> oh.. I need a list of them though
[12:40] <tga> rainmaker, there are tools that do what you want, I'm searching for one as we speak
[12:40] <twibbler> rainmaker: system -> preferences -> session ... will help you setup specific programs ...
[12:40] <GTroy> Bjerrk, or anyone, can you give a good idea for a cheap "quality" laptop for breezy?
[12:40] <tga> twibbler, he wants to see a list of system services, not xsession stuff
[12:40] <twibbler> tga: I see sorry misunderstood ...
[12:40] <rainmaker> twibbler, i dont see any programs there
[12:40] <Bjerrk> GTroy: hmm.... ANY cheap laptop'd do. That the great thing about linux ;)
[12:40] <rainmaker> ah
[12:41] <Bjerrk> *that is
[12:41] <tga> other than ntsysv what apps configure the system services?
[12:41] <Kaetemi> hi all, is there anyone here who could help me with getting my screen resolution higher than 1024*768 @ 60Hz, plz?
[12:41] <GTroy> what about configuration problems
[12:41] <rainmaker> Kaetemi, install your video drivers
[12:41] <CookdGryphon> GTroy, but! b careful about the modem! there are a lot of ones with really really dodgy modems, winmodems, check its sup[ported or get an external modem with ure laptop
[12:41] <GTroy> would only use wifi
[12:42] <Bjerrk> GTroy, what do you mean? Do you mean "What laptop would be the easiest?"
[12:42] <Kaetemi> how do i do that, rainmaker? :p
[12:42] <GTroy> Bjerrk: you got it!
[12:42] <rainmaker> Kaetemi, http://ubuntuguide.org
[12:42] <GTroy> I've got hoary on my old hp box
[12:42] <tga> rainmaker, a-ha! apt-get install sysvconfig
[12:42] <GTroy> but mostly I use my ibook
[12:42] <rainmaker> yay thx
[12:42] <Bjerrk> hehe... if you're going for wifi, find a card that you KNOW is supported :P
[12:43] <GTroy> got it
[12:43] <maar> Sly, did'nt work.
[12:43] <maar> Sly, do u know how to config. wine to use other sound output?
[12:43] <Bjerrk> Aah... Gnome is nice. I've been using KDE for too long
[12:44] <GTroy> Gnome uses less memory too
[12:44] <flugh> when i join, i see in the channel modes, "no colors allowed". sounds kind of racist
[12:44] <fr500> tga, wow this works, still testing locally, now a question, if i get disconnected from the net, would my session close?
[12:44] <tga> fr500, yes
[12:44] <tga> fr500, vnc/nx is still the better choise
[12:44] <tga> choice rather
[12:45] <Bjerrk> Uh.. i've got a question BTW. Is there a Gnome tool that let's you change the gamma/brightness of you monitor?
[12:45] <fr500> tga, but for login there is not another choice
[12:45] <tga> Bjerrk, I don't think your computer can control that
[12:45] <Bjerrk> tga: ofcourse it can
[12:45] <mike_> any help out there to get my mp3 disk to work
[12:45] <tga> Bjerrk, some cards have a gamma/brightness of their own, but you can't talk to the monitor
[12:45] <fr500> tga, would it be to slow through internet? it's faster than VNC locally
[12:45] <Bjerrk> When KDe can do it Gnome can too.
[12:45] <rainmaker> tga you think i can disable apmd?
[12:45] <Bjerrk> *KDE
[12:46] <jaku> ok this is the situation, i don-t have the img of the kernel in /boot any more.. any idea to save my computer?
[12:46] <tga> rainmaker, probably
[12:46] <tga> jaku, apt-get install linux-kernel again
[12:46] <CookdGryphon> jaku, can u use the rescue disk to coipy a new one in?
[12:46] <Bjerrk> tga: KDe can do it natively. Can Gnome do it?
[12:47] <mirak> hi
[12:47] <tga> Bjerrk, I don't think kde can set _monitor_ brightness levels, but I may be missing something
[12:47] <jaku> CookdGryphon, yap.. but how can i swo it to grub?
[12:47] <Bjerrk> tga: how come i just did it, then?
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> swo??
[12:47] <mirak> is it possible to have apache beeing used as a frontal server for another server than runs on another port ?
[12:47] <jaku> show
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> jaku, is it a different version or something?
[12:47] <tga> Bjerrk, those might be video card settings.. in any case, I don't know how to do it in gnome
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> cos u can jsut edit the grub boot command to point to the new kernel name
[12:48] <CookdGryphon> press e on the line
[12:48] <jaku> CookdGryphon, don-t think, but grub see only memotest
[12:48] <twibbler> mirak: I think you may need a specific apache channel for that one ..
[12:48] <tga> jaku, do you still have your system going?
[12:48] <CookdGryphon> jaku, add a new entry on /boot/grub/boot.lst
[12:48] <tga> jaku, the easiest way to fix it would be to reinstall the kernel image.. that will also configure grub for you
[12:48] <jaku> tga, no, but i-m with a live cd.. and i did chroot to it
[12:48] <Bjerrk> tga: the thing is that my monitor is always far too dark, even at 100%, therefore i have to change it through software
[12:48] <mirak> twibbler: I am on it ;)
[12:49] <superfly> hey I have a quick question. In ubuntu is there anyway to get a plain terminal without X?
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> menu.lst sry jaku
[12:49] <Bjerrk> superfly: ofcourse
[12:49] <DewDude> superfly, yes
[12:49] <tga> Bjerrk, right, those are card settings then
[12:49] <superfly> how?
[12:49] <tga> superfly, ctrl+alt+f1
[12:49] <superfly> ok thanks
[12:49] <Bjerrk> tga: F2, innit?
[12:49] <tga> superfly, you can find X again with alt+f7
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> hadn't u best tell him how to get back?
[12:49] <ttyS0> where libiconv.so.2 can be found?
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> yeah lol
[12:49] <fr500> tga, how do i enable it only for the lan?
[12:50] <winner> nemik: ok im back with the debootstrap error. is there anyway i can actually read the logs?
[12:50] <tga> CookdGryphon, heh I only thought of that afterwards
[12:50] <Bjerrk> tga: yes, it is card settings. Still same problem. But how do make my monitor seem brighter, using some gnome tool?
[12:51] <fr500> Bjerrk, none so far
[12:51] <JazyLNX> now for the reboot
[12:51] <JazyLNX> hopfully the breezy dist-upgrade worked
[12:51] <Bjerrk> fr500: are you sure?
[12:51] <tga> Bjerrk, sorry, no idea
[12:52] <jaku> CookdGryphon, can you give the line of your grub.. just to see?
[12:52] <fr500> Bjerrk, not 100% there are a lot of progs out there
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> okay
[12:52] <DewDude> i dist-upgraded to breezy last night
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> is the kernel line
[12:53] <tga> fr500, hmm.. you could set up your firewall I guess..
[12:53] <fr500> tga, to disable xdcmp from the internet, would i disable the honour indirect requests?
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> is the initrd line
[12:53] <tga> fr500, I don't think so, requests from the net are the same as lan requests.. you have to set up allowed hosts somewhere
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> jake join #flood n i'll give u the whole listing if u like
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> please
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> help
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> me
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> how can i download torrent file with bittornado
[12:54] <CookdGryphon> Red_Bullet, what's the problem
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> btdownloadcurses
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> is
[12:54] <hawking> well I have never connected to a news server before... what are well known news servers? for example how can i connect to comp.lang.python?
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> interface
[12:54] <cafuego> fr500: You would set up a firewall. Do _not_ run xdmcp on a non-firewalled machine. (Atually, do not run xdmcp on a machine that isn't on a protected lan)
[12:54] <jaku> CookdGryphon, tks
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> can you help me
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:54] <fr500> cafuego, i undestand, i'd like to know why tho
[12:55] <cafuego> fr500: X runs as root. If X has a security problem, you have a root hole.
[12:55] <yonil> what application can i use to make an application run at a certain time  ? (something simple, gui based, not cron)
[12:55] <cafuego> fr500: And X is FAR alrge enough for there to be undiscovered holes.
[12:55] <malv> crons pretty simple
[12:56] <selinium> how do i shutdown from the command line?
[12:56] <dylan_> how do i permanently set my cdrom drives with dma on?
[12:56] <cafuego> selinium: 'sudo halt'
[12:56] <Bjerrk> selinium: shutdown?
[12:56] <cafuego> selinium: or 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[12:56] <Bjerrk> :P
[12:56] <IcE-bOy> hi
[12:56] <fr500> cafuego, understood, so i gotta setup a firewall, then establish a VPN or IP tunnel and then enable XDCMP rite?
[12:56] <yonil> malv, i know cron, but i need someting to work only 1 time, like a calendar option
[12:56] <selinium> switch off the pc
[12:56] <IcE-bOy> somebody is using synaptics ?
[12:56] <selinium> cheers cafuego
[12:56] <cafuego> fr500: If you set the firewall up right, a tunnel probably isn't needed.
[12:57] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, i want to kno that too,
[12:57] <jdermer> is there a program for linux that is similar to mac os x's dock
[12:57] <jdermer> like a clone basically
[12:57] <tga> fr500, you could disable remote logins and then use a ssh tunnel to get to the local port
[12:57] <Red_Bullet> ooo no nobody can help me
[12:57] <Red_Bullet> can't
[12:57] <dylan_> can somebody help me set dma permanently
[12:57] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: btdownloadcurses "http:.......blah.torrent"
[12:57] <twibbler> tga: that would work .. do it a lot ...
[12:57] <fr500> cafuego, tga thanks
[12:58] <fr500> tga, would not work with an IP tunnel?
[12:58] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[12:58] <oolon> Red_Bullet, try azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[12:58] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, thanks!!
[12:58] <tga> fr500, I guess, ssh is just easier to set up imho
[12:58] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Check out the section at the bottom, they should tell you enough. Ask if it's not clear. :)
[12:58] <dylan_> Tomcat, i did that already and when i rebooted and checked with sudo hdparm it didnt work
[12:58] <fr500> ok
[12:59] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Is it some dynamically loaded drive?
[12:59] <jdermer> anyonE?
[12:59] <dylan_> Tomcat_, they are cdrom drives /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[12:59] <yonil> what application can i use to make an application run at a certain time  ? (something simple, gui based, not cron)
[12:59] <Tomcat_> dylan_: But it does work temporarily?
[12:59] <erUSUL> yonil, at
[12:59] <erUSUL> man at
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, im not sure.....i canot rip songs from cds as fast as i can on windows
[01:00] <mpm2> Does anyone know a good way to figure out why my CD-burning does not work anymore?
[01:00] <oolon> jdermer, if you run kde there are superkaramba themes that mimic osx dock
[01:00] <fr500> cafuego, if i set a firewall, i gotta open the XDCMP port anyway right?
[01:00] <jdermer> im using ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:00] <jdermer> so i got gnome
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, and im afraid i f'ed up my /etc/hdparm.conf file
[01:00] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Do "sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc" or hdd, and see if dma is on.
[01:00] <oolon> jdermer, not sure about gdesklets though
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, other than the readme section of the file, i removed all the # symbols
[01:01] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, is hdparm meant to b all commented out by default?
[01:01] <dylan_> Tomcat_, hdc is on
[01:01] <jdermer> wuts gdesklets ?
[01:01] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: Yeah that's normal.
[01:01] <tga> hmm.. can you start Xnest through ssh -X and get a full session?
[01:01] <dylan_> Tomcat_, so i can remove all the commetns
[01:01] <Tomcat_> dylan_: so it does work temporarily... mh... :\
[01:01] <rainmaker> is there a way to make the gaim window blink in the taskbar when you have a new message?
[01:01] <sadrul> say, isn't there supposed to be some glib2[-devel]  package?
[01:01] <rainmaker> used to do it on fedora i dont know whats wrong
[01:01] <mpm2> anyone have a minute to look at my cdrecord errors please?  http://pastebin.com/360135
[01:01] <dylan_> rainmaker, no
[01:01] <CookdGryphon> rainmaker, u can download guifications to pop up when sum1 messages u
[01:01] <Tomcat_> dylan_: No idea then, sorry. If dma doesn't work at all, you might miss a driver.
[01:02] <dylan_> Tomcat_, ok thanks bud
[01:02] <rainmaker> i dont want it to pop up just a little blink in the taskbar
[01:02] <tga> rainmaker, you can have it show the number of unread messages in the titlebar
[01:02] <rainmaker> cool
[01:02] <jdermer> oolon wut are gdesklets
[01:02] <rainmaker> works for me
[01:02] <tga> rainmaker, take a look at the installed plugins.. there's one about message notification
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> i want console torrent client
[01:02] <oolon> jdermer, this might be what you're looking for http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=210
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> tell me how to start bittornado
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> ?
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> aa
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> bittorrent
[01:03] <Red_Bullet> how to start bittorrent
[01:03] <jdermer> yea that sorta looks like the dock
[01:03] <tga> Red_Bullet, btdownloadcurses for example
[01:03] <jdermer> with ubuntu is there a way to like hmmmm
[01:03] <jdermer> im a n00b so bear with me
[01:03] <LasseL> Red_Bullet, Applications > Internet > GNOME BitTorrent
[01:03] <CookdGryphon> does it do any harm if u set the cdrom speed higher than it actually is with hdparm?
[01:03] <tga> LasseL, that's not console though
[01:03] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: Yes.
[01:03] <CookdGryphon> cos i dont' kno what speed it is, so i ahve to guess
[01:03] <jdermer> like in gentoo u type like install (packagename) sorta
[01:03] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: At least, it *might* damage the drive.
[01:04] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, how do i find out the speed then?
[01:04] <jdermer> and itll like download and install the package
[01:04] <jdermer> deps and all
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, apt-get install packagename
[01:04] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: No idea, sorry... my drive is fast enough, never had to change it.
[01:04] <jdermer> do i need to open a root term to do it ?
[01:04] <yonil> erUSUL, i ran "at <TIME>" now i get a terminal type thing, i write there the application i want it to run, now what ? (how do i exit the terminal?)
[01:04] <oolon> jdermer, yes
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, you have to be root to run apt-get, so you run it through sudo
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, sudo apt-get install packagename
[01:04] <Tomcat_> jdermer: Yeah, apt-get is the same... there are even GUIs for it.
[01:05] <erUSUL> yonil Ctrl - D
[01:05] <tga> jdermer, synaptic is a nice gui for it
[01:05] <oolon> jdermer, you can use synaptic as well
[01:05] <oolon> :D
[01:05] <rainmaker> aptitude is better though
[01:05] <rainmaker> from what i have heard
[01:05] <jdermer> o
[01:05] <yonil> erUSUL, that means "end of file" ?
[01:05] <rainmaker> aptitude install <packetname>
[01:05] <tga> meh, synaptic > apt-get > aptitude
[01:06] <erUSUL> yonil, yes
[01:06] <jdermer> with synaptic
[01:06] <yonil> erUSUL, thanks
[01:06] <jdermer> i just search for the package ?
[01:07] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC @ ubuntu.. what can I do to fix this?
[01:07] <tga> jdermer, yes
[01:07] <erUSUL> yonil, you are wellcome
[01:07] <tga> jdermer, in the console you search with apt-cache search packagename
[01:07] <yonil> alias aget="sudo apt-get install" > apt-get > synaptic :D
[01:07] <jdermer> k
[01:07] <jdermer> ubuntu pwns
[01:07] <jdermer> lol
[01:08] <rainmaker> tga how did you say you could make gaim display the amount of unread messeges?
[01:08] <cute_bettong> how do i make the windows transparent in breezy?
[01:08] <jdermer> do any of u know why ubuntu hates my athlon xp 2800+ rig tho
[01:08] <jdermer> basically after it install
[01:08] <tga> rainmaker, Preferences -> Plugins -> Message Notification
[01:08] <cafuego> jdermer: karma
[01:08] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way to increase the brightness of the desktop
[01:08] <jdermer> and i go to login with gdm
[01:08] <cafuego> cute_bettong: hardware transparency?
[01:08] <rainmaker> tga, weird... thats what I tried and it didnt work for some reason
[01:08] <jdermer> i just get a pointer
[01:08] <jdermer> and it doesnt load into gnome
[01:08] <cute_bettong> um i don't know
[01:08] <jdermer> karma ?
[01:08] <Red_Bullet> how to start bittorrent
[01:08] <Red_Bullet> ?
[01:09] <cute_bettong> i just want to make the windows transparent
[01:09] <tga> rainmaker, after you enable it take a look at Plugins -> Mesage Notification
[01:09] <cafuego> cute_bettong: You can get transparent windows in X using hardware, but that will disable 3D (completely) and crash quite often.
[01:09] <yonil> erUSUL, any ideas why it isn't working ?
[01:09] <tga> Red_Bullet, do you want a gui or console?
[01:09] <rainmaker> tga,  it has all the settings i want there
[01:09] <cute_bettong> ewww i don't think so
[01:09] <CookdGryphon> cute_bettong, u can get a terminal to go transparent
[01:09] <erUSUL> Red_Bullet,  btdownloadcurses *.torrent
[01:09] <CookdGryphon> i ahve that, it looks cool, and the panels
[01:09] <jdermer> neone ?
[01:09] <cafuego> Not to mention I found it extremely annoying when I had it enabled for half an hour or so.
[01:09] <cute_bettong> i have without makeing the windows transparent created my theme
[01:10] <cute_bettong> i call it ubuntu's darkness ^_^
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, an example $ at 08:00 September 11 <Return>
[01:10] <tga> jdermer, sounds like something wrong is going on.. try to login with other window manager
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, > shutdown -h now
[01:10] <Kaetemi> hmm still can't get resolution and refresh rate higher after installing gfxcard drivers
[01:10] <jdermer> it only comes with gnome tho
[01:10] <jdermer> and that failsafe term
[01:10] <cute_bettong> is there somewhere i can like post my theme for people to see?
[01:10] <jdermer> which works
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, > [Ctrl-D] 
[01:10] <samu2> I filed a bug and was told to try and see if dmesg returns anything when the error happens.
[01:10] <tga> Kaetemi, did you restart X?
[01:10] <cute_bettong> like show a screeny?
[01:11] <Kaetemi> yep
[01:11] <cafuego> cute_bettong: There's an ubuntu artwork site.. check the wiki for the actual address.
[01:11] <cute_bettong> kk
[01:11] <nemik> so i'm absolutely in love with ubuntu and the principles it represents. i want to give it to my grandmother on her old laptop to use because it is easy and free and it available in croatia. but how would she use dialup on it? it is all they have.
[01:11] <mpm2> Does anyone know if there's a paid support option for ubuntu? when 8+ hours go by on a problem and I'm not making progress I start to wonder if I could just pay an expert for help
[01:11] <CookdGryphon> cute_bettong, i'd like to see this theme
[01:11] <yonil> erUSUL, yeah i did that, i tried running amarok, and it said  "job 5 at 2005-09-11 02:10" like it should, but at 2:10 nothing happend
[01:11] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way to boost the brightness or gamma of my X11
[01:11] <CookdGryphon> nemik, depennds what modem it has
[01:11] <_reset> no audio output in totem-xine
[01:11] <mpm2> nemik I've gotten wvdial working
[01:11] <_reset> why?
[01:11] <samu2> What kind of words should I be looking for when the error is related to updating the kernel-image through the "ubuntu update manager"?
[01:11] <_chavo> GhostFreeman: xgamma
[01:12] <twibbler> mpm2: paid options are not cheap ...
[01:12] <CookdGryphon> nemik, if they ahve a working modem then jstu put the gnome modem applet on the panel
[01:12] <tga> nemik, get the Ubuntu binary cds.. they contain many useful pacakges
[01:12] <nemik> tga, yes i have them from the free shipit.
[01:12] <mpm2> twibbler: ok thanks
[01:12] <tga> ah, alright.. wvdial then or the gnome thing
[01:12] <nemik> so is it installed in gnome? or needs to be apt-gotten ;) or something?
[01:13] <twibbler> mpm2: but are available.....      I us one for work to maintain the servers ...
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> Do I need to restart X11 to see the gamma improvments?
[01:13] <_chavo> GhostFreeman: no
[01:13] <tga> nemik, you should already have wvdial in there
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> Well i've changed the settings but so far nothing visible
[01:13] <CookdGryphon> nemik, already installed
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> pleeeese
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> helppp mee
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> i have a big problem
[01:13] <CookdGryphon> nemik, its easier to use the gnome applet tho
[01:13] <nemik> great, and it is GUI? i don't want her going to terminal... :D
[01:13] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: Two people have told you what to do now.
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> how to download .torrents
[01:13] <tga> nemik, right, try the gnome applet first
[01:14] <tga> Red_Bullet, with your web browser
[01:14] <erUSUL> yonil, it works for me. i have never tried an gui aplication though
[01:14] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: It not OUR fault you choose to ignore them. Go read the manuale pages or something.
[01:14] <nemik> cookd, so the gnome aplet is there by default though
[01:14] <bitkrom> hi
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> nemik, yup
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> :D
[01:14] <tga> nemik, yes
[01:14] <nemik> great!
[01:14] <bobbyd> nemik, if the laptop has a soft-modem you'll need to get an external modem
[01:14] <nemik> man i love this more and more
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> u need to right click on the panel and say add to panel
[01:14] <mpm2> twibbler: I inevitably will end up reinstalling just to fix a cd-burning problem that seems to happen on my system; first it burns and then after time, it no longer works.  I know the answer is out there somewhere, I think I'm just having bad luck tracking it down
[01:14] <bobbyd> nemik, serial ones are cheap though
[01:14] <rainmaker> tga, still no luck with the messege notifacation
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> and its in the list
[01:14] <rainmaker> =(
[01:15] <tga> rainmaker, what exactly did you enable?
[01:15] <_reset> no audio output in totem-xine
[01:15] <bitkrom> when you enter auto copy a url by being over it. and you got to click it into the browser it highlights the default url...whats your way around this?
[01:15] <_reset> why?
[01:15] <twibbler> mpm2: a simply quick test is reduce the speed of the cd ...
[01:15] <Red_Bullet> but i want to start bittorrent no bittornado
[01:15] <nemik> i can't wait to be free of windows completely...
[01:15] <rainmaker> tga, i figured it out :)
[01:15] <rainmaker> forgot to choose wich notifacation method
[01:15] <tga> rainmaker, alright :)
[01:16] <twibbler> mpm2: also if sperodic... clean the CD burner ...
[01:16] <rainmaker> I think #ubuntu needs a sub channel for newbie questions
[01:16] <CookdGryphon> nemik,  i am free of windows already!! i even scraped the surface off the lil mettaliccy designed for windows xp sticker on my laptop and changed it to ubuntu an drew the lil logo with a felt pen
[01:16] <rainmaker> nice CookdGryphon :)
[01:16] <twibbler> rainmaker: isnt the ubuntu channel for newbies ...
[01:17] <matthew> rainmaker:  That's the faq.
[01:17] <tga> so is there a nice ubuntu handbook coming?
[01:17] <CookdGryphon> rainmaker, it has ubotu to refer newbies to answers for commonly asked questions
[01:17] <nemik> cookd nice! i still need it for a few things; may dual boot though. but already put ubuntu server on my SMS servers (perfect with root access, stupid sudo) and put it in my family room for family. got really tired of formatting windows ever 3 months
[01:17] <rainmaker> i see
[01:17] <jl_> thatwould be nice. but ubuntuguide.org is the best thing going otherwise
[01:18] <jl_> freebsd book for linux will never come around.
[01:18] <CookdGryphon> nemik u can enable root acces if u really want it
[01:18] <jl_> freebsd *like* book i mean
[01:19] <FR500> tga: something i forgot, what port should i forward?
[01:19] <nemik> cookd, yea i know. i did. now everything is stable. sudo was wierd. would lose permissions to frequently accessed folders chmodded 777
[01:19] <tga> jl_, the gentoo handbook is also nice
[01:19] <jl_> it is.... indeed
[01:19] <tga> FR500, what's the first option on the gdm xdmcp page?
[01:19] <FR500> 177
[01:20] <tga> FR500, bingo
[01:20] <DewDude> i learned more about installing linux reding the gentoo handbook than anything else
[01:20] <FR500> tga: i thought that one was for remote login only
[01:20] <Zhukov_> agree DewDude
[01:20] <nemik> dewdude, same here. wasn't successful, but did learn a lot! :D
[01:20] <Zhukov_> except by using Linux daily
[01:20] <DewDude> heh
[01:20] <DewDude> i got my kernal going
[01:20] <DewDude> that was it
[01:20] <Zhukov_> i sucedeed after a lot of hours netless and xless
[01:20] <DewDude> like, id idn't want to compile everything
[01:20] <tga> FR500, that's the only way you can access gdm through udp.. there is no 'local only' port
[01:20] <nemik> gentoo scared me away from linux for quite a long time. ubuntu made me try it again
[01:21] <DewDude> ahh, see, i have a seperate computer for linux
[01:21] <FR500> ok
[01:21] <Zhukov_> nemik, gentoo made me thirsty for more :D
[01:21] <DewDude> like, i got my network and kernal configured
[01:21] <jl_> ubuntu is about 95% on my laptop. fix hibernate and I'll be golden!
[01:21] <nemik> hehe, i didn't have the time for that kind of thirst
[01:21] <DewDude> i had a nice litle comsole system
[01:21] <jl_> as well as a decent network manager.
[01:21] <spokeydokey> hey, anyone here play FlightGear?
[01:21] <tga> jl_, what lappy? I can't get hibernate or suspend to ram working either
[01:21] <jl_> ububntu rox
[01:21] <DewDude> i just..didn't feel like waiting a week to compile my deskto
[01:21] <DewDude> desktop
[01:21] <jl_> tga, hp nc6120
[01:21] <Zhukov_> i always hated Windows and macOs, "linux is my soul mate os" as someone already said
[01:22] <jl_> tga, i'll grab ya the wiki link i am maintaining
[01:22] <DewDude> Zhukov_, i have to keep a windows machine around for audio-production...but i hate macos too
[01:22] <rainmaker> i definatly dont hate mac OSX
[01:22] <DewDude> in fact, first thing i did after getting this mac was toss linux on it
[01:22] <rainmaker> its a very nice os
[01:22] <mike77> has anyone set up the evolution mail with gmail.??
[01:23] <rainmaker> DewDude, why buy a mac if your not going to run osx on it?
[01:23] <jl_> tga,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNC6120
[01:23] <rainmaker> then you might as well get a cheaper pc
[01:23] <DewDude> i didn't buy this mac
[01:23] <DewDude> it's old
[01:23] <DewDude> it was free
[01:23] <erUSUL> mike77, yes
[01:23] <DewDude> rainmaker: http://itux.ath.cx
[01:23] <mike77> Could you offer some help.. I can send mail but can't get any.
[01:23] <DewDude> there's a stats link if you wanna see how slow this thing is
[01:23] <nemik> what GUI-based app would you all recommend for CD buring (data and music) sister is clamouring for it. nero is not free and no recent linux keygens! :D
[01:23] <DewDude> k3b
[01:24] <zenrox> gnomebaker
[01:24] <thrush_2> either of those
[01:24] <nemik> cool thanks
[01:24] <erUSUL> mike77,  what error you get if any?
[01:24] <CookdGryphon> mike77 yes
[01:24] <tga> jl_, nice, I'll have a wiki page ready for my lappy too
[01:24] <mike77> not any....
[01:25] <mike77> im in options to set up my mail
[01:25] <CookdGryphon> i take it uve gone in ure gmail options and enabled pop?
[01:25] <mike77> under pop..
[01:25] <mike77> ya
[01:25] <cute_bettong> [URL=http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5hz.png] [IMG] http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1690/screenshot5hz.th.png[/IMG] [/URL] 
[01:25] <cute_bettong> my theme ^^
[01:25] <erUSUL> mike77, you have activated pop3 acces through web interface, hadn't you?
[01:25] <mike77> That's where I would be lost i guess
[01:25] <mike77> sorry very new to this
[01:26] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: i bought my pwermac to  run ubuntu on it
[01:26] <mike77> linux
[01:26] <jdermer> hey guys
[01:26] <mike77> Where would I go to activate it
[01:26] <rainmaker> johndarkhorse, why?
[01:26] <rainmaker> thats a waste of money
[01:26] <jdermer> how does 3d work on ubuntu
[01:26] <jdermer> is it like automatic
[01:26] <Zhukov_> case its beautifull
[01:26] <flugh> cool, i dist-upgraded to breezy, and it hasn't crashed much :)
[01:26] <rainmaker> jdermer, install the drivers
[01:26] <jdermer> or do i need to get nvidia drivers and stuff
[01:27] <jdermer> search synaptic for nvidia
[01:27] <DewDude> jdermer: depends on your system
[01:27] <erUSUL> mike77, you have to log into your gmail accaunt with a web browser and activate pop acces
[01:27] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: in my experience, i get more done with linux
[01:27] <mike77> oh yes, that has been done
[01:27] <DewDude> i've got a mac and a Ati Rage 128...i had to manualy enable the ati driver to get DRI
[01:27] <mike77> But on the evolution I dont have a pop3, just a pop configuration
[01:27] <DewDude> however, the ATI support blows
[01:27] <rainmaker> johndarkhorse, but then again you could have bought a better PC and saved money
[01:27] <tga> my touchpad goes crazy the first time I touch it after a reboot, then it works fine
[01:28] <tga> anyone saw this before?
[01:28] <flugh> i get more done with linux, because i don't know how to run half-life under it
[01:28] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: let us continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <mindframe> what binary is it that monitor's laptop battery power, and will it work in fluxbox?
[01:28] <Zhukov_> flugh, what??
[01:28] <mike77> On the evolution I had no option to put a port number in
[01:29] <flugh> Zhukov_: johndarkhorse said 'i get more done with linux'. me too :)
[01:29] <flugh> everytime i boot to windows to 'work', i end up fraggin'
[01:29] <FR500> tga: then after tunel is working, do i run the xdcmp chooser again?
[01:29] <tga> mindframe, one crude way to go around it would be to look in /proc/acpi/battery/
[01:29] <Zhukov_> mike77, http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-52687.html
[01:29] <Zhukov_> next time mike77 google a little bit before, ok? :)
[01:30] <erUSUL> mike77, security -> use secure connection that will do
[01:30] <mindframe> tga: so it wont work in flux?
[01:30] <tga> FR500, yes. you should have xdmcp enabled in gdm
[01:30] <mike77> thank you
[01:30] <spokeydokey> I'm having a problem with Flight Gear, it seems to perpetually load the scenery
[01:30] <spokeydokey> The sound is still coming through and it looks like the scenery is fine, but it still has the dialog Scenery Loading...
[01:31] <tga> mindframe, I don't know any specific app that will work in flux but take a look at apt-cache search battery
[01:31] <mindframe> k thanks
[01:32] <Zhukov_> my will to programe right now is as big as my will to have a green tail
[01:33] <dylan_> is /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom any different from eachother?
[01:33] <h0sl3r> anyone use fluxspace?
[01:33] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, don't think so
[01:33] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, so why is dma set on /dev/cdrom and not on /dev/hdc
[01:33] <CookdGryphon> when i change my hdparm.conf, it makes no differ.. bugger i jstu realised my mistake
[01:34] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, oh so dma IS on?
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, when i set it on cdrom it comes up on hdc
[01:34] <jdermer> wow some of the packages tha synpatic has are really old
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> jstu a min, have u set it on cdrom0?
[01:34] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> or cdrom?
[01:34] <jdermer> for example gdesklets
[01:34] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, cdrom
[01:35] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, intersting...
[01:35] <CookdGryphon> and hdparm /dev/cdrom gives different results to hdparm /dev/hdc ?
[01:36] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, when i do mount /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd or even /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd nothing happens
[01:36] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fluxspace looks interesting.  i might try it out.  is it as light as fluxbox?
[01:36] <Kuresu> can anyone help me configure my sound card so that i will support OSS and ALSA sound drivers
[01:36] <jl_> there.. finished the wiki updates tga :) found a few more things that ended up working fine.
[01:36] <tga> cool
[01:36] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I wouldnt know. I cant get it to work right, haha. I might be setting it up wrong though because I cant find a straight forward guide.
[01:36] <jl_> tga,   which one is your wiki?
[01:36] <jl_> i'd like to compare notes
[01:36] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, so what?
[01:37] <kemik> dylan_:  where is you cdrom? primary master, primary slave, sec master or sec. slave?
[01:37] <gf> why did they take away the terminal shortcut from teh right click menu in breezy??
[01:37] <erUSUL> Kuresu, that is impossible
[01:37] <dylan_> sec slave
[01:37] <tga> jl_, none so far, I'll add FujitsuS2010
[01:37] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I think its suppose to run on top of fluxbox.
[01:37] <kemik> /dev/hdd then
[01:37] <mindframe> ahh
[01:37] <erUSUL> Kuresu,  you can enable oss emulation on alsa
[01:37] <jl_> tga,   nice
[01:37] <kemik> gf:  think it was a decision in Gnome, not ubuntu... (not sure)
[01:37] <gf> ah
[01:37] <gf> cuz i miss it :(
[01:38] <mindframe> h0sl3r, correct.  fluxbox or blackbox is one of its dependencies
[01:38] <kemik> must be someway to readd it
[01:38] <cevizoglu> I just dist-upgraded an i386 pc from warty to hoary and lost my xserver connection.  How would I restore it?
[01:38] <kemik> i know i'll want it there
[01:38] <cevizoglu> I rebooted after the upgrade
[01:39] <cevizoglu> when I dist-upgraded a second time, it looked like I had to dist-upgrade -f because some dependencies got in the way of the upgrade
[01:39] <Zhukov_> cevizoglu, try this
[01:39] <Zhukov_> sudo gdm
[01:39] <jl_> off to file some bugs.  bbl
[01:40] <] BreliC[> hey.. has everyone ever experienced a strange distortion when you play sounds in Ubuntu?
[01:40] <jdermer> or is it just me
[01:40] <lymz> how do i detect and configure my wireless nic? (it was available during setup, but i didn't configure it then)
[01:40] <Kuresu> erUSUL, how?
[01:40] <LethAL-Rocks> lymz, get a real nic and buy me one too
[01:40] <mindframe> ] BreliC[, not I, try turning down the PCM volume
[01:40] <] BreliC[> everything was fine, then I tried to change my sound to ALSA instead of ESD (in Multimedia Systems Selector).. anyway, i put it back and since then, the sound is distorted
[01:40] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[01:40] <Zhukov_> ] BreliC[, tryed the ubuntuguide?
[01:40] <erUSUL> ] BreliC[, yes my old pci128 and my maxtor didn't play well together
[01:41] <lymz> oh yea, this is on my laptop :-p
[01:41] <] BreliC[> mindframe, i did.. not sure it's that.. it's more than distorted.. it's almost like it has a bad flange effect (or robotic) of some sort
[01:41] <mindframe> hrmm
[01:41] <erUSUL> Kuresu, when you compile the kernel. The ubuntu kernel should have this enabled
[01:41] <rainmaker> is beep media player in the ubuntu repos?
[01:41] <] BreliC[> mindframe, yeah, i did take a look at ubuntu guide, but couldn't really find anything.  doesn't help that i can't describe my problem properly
[01:42] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I cant get my backgrounds to work when I install a new theme. The style is using the command bsetbg. Should I change it to something else?
[01:42] <erUSUL> i can't tell as i run a vanill 2.6.13
[01:42] <CookdGryphon> Does anybody know what i can do to find out what speed the cd-rw/dvd-rom in my laptop is meant to run at, hdparm has cdrom set to 2x at the moment, and tis killing me!
[01:42] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fsetbg -f /path/to/wall.png
[01:42] <h0sl3r> ok
[01:42] <cevizoglu> that's odd, with the dist-upgrade -f it looks like it upgraded way more packages than it should have to, since I already did a dist-upgrade the first time
[01:43] <h0sl3r> mindframe: also how do i get my dockapps to load on startup?
[01:43] <jdermer> do any of you use gdesklets ?
[01:43] <thrush_2> CookdGryphon, you might need to enable dma
[01:43] <LethAL-Rocks> jdermer: No, are they any good?
[01:43] <Vektram> is the help for synaptic out of date?
[01:44] <dabaR> My sound sounds like in a tunnel. I started esd, and I am playing with mp4player through cplay.
[01:44] <dabaR> Echo like in a tunnel.
[01:44] <dabaR> What can I do, I dont think it did this before, as in last night.
[01:44] <luite> I'm trying to upgrade to kernel 2.6.13 and I've built a kernel with make-kpkg (config based on 2.6.12 breezy default kernel), but when trying to boot it, grub hangs when booting the kernel. What could be wrong?
[01:44] <jdermer> i cant get it to work properly
[01:45] <lymz> during installation of breezybadger on my laptop it found my wireless nic.  I didn't configure it during setup, anyway i can configure it now?
[01:45] <Zhukov_> is breezy wort upgrading?
[01:45] <zblach> hi. how can you set up amarok?
[01:45] <cevizoglu> zhukov: if you don't mind the possibility of reverting, yes
[01:45] <dabaR> zblach: that is a very bad question.
[01:46] <CookdGryphon> thrush_2, i ahve enables dma, and its jerky as ever
[01:46] <tmulle> hi all
[01:46] <cevizoglu> zhukov: dist-upgrade -f solved my broken xserver problem
[01:46] <Zhukov_> cevizoglu, i did it with hoary, but it is better not...cant affor to be without pc to work
[01:46] <zblach> dabaR, why?
[01:46] <dabaR> cause you dont say what you awnt.
[01:46] <zblach> dabaR, ok.
[01:46] <zblach> a-hem. why is it I get no sound when using amarok?
[01:46] <tmulle> anyone been succesful installing either 5.04 or 5.10 on a Tyan Tiger S2460 system? Both installations lock up on me, usually after HAL is started
[01:47] <jdermer> i think i know why gdesklets is being lame
[01:47] <jdermer> is there a way to like downgrade a package with synpatic ?
[01:47] <mindframe> h0sl3r, edit the init file and put a line "session.appsFile: /path/to/apps-config"
[01:47] <tmulle> the live CD's run just fine
[01:47] <dabaR> zblach: have you looked at what sound daemon it is using?
[01:48] <zblach> thats what i need help setting up
[01:48] <zblach> which sound daemon should it be using?
[01:48] <jdermer> anyone ?
[01:48] <dabaR> zblach: are you using gnome?
[01:48] <DewDude> i can install gnome and KDE on ubuntu and select which one i want upon boot right?
[01:48] <zblach> dabaR, yes
[01:48] <tga> DewDude, yes
[01:48] <DewDude> ok
[01:48] <dabaR> zblach: your gnome likely uses esd.
[01:48] <DewDude> i might install gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> just to try it
[01:49] <dabaR> DewDude: no, not on boot, during login through your dm.
[01:49] <tga> DewDude, install ubuntu-desktop to get the full experience
[01:49] <DewDude> yeah, that's what i mean
[01:49] <tmulle> my system is a dual athlon 1800+ with 512MB ram
[01:49] <DewDude> sesson type
[01:49] <dabaR> DewDude: you said it wrong!;)
[01:49] <DewDude> well, i'm sorry
[01:49] <DewDude> i'm high
[01:49] <dabaR> $10.
[01:49] <zblach> dabaR, the sound daemon is alright, it just refuses to play music
[01:49] <mindframe> h0sl3r, in the apps file you have to put like [startup]  {binary name}
[01:49] <tmulle> and I didn't see anything in the ubuntu forums regarding any tyan issues :(
[01:49] <dabaR> zblach: I dont use amarok. why are you using that, anyhow in gnome?
[01:49] <DewDude> is installing ubuntu-desktop going to mess config files up?
[01:50] <jdermer> anyone?
[01:50] <DewDude> or will i not even know it's there till i use it
[01:50] <dabaR> DewDude: no.
[01:50] <h0sl3r> mindframe: where is the apps file?
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <zblach> dabaR, xmms wasn't cutting it for me
[01:50] <dabaR> you will never be using ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, you have to define it in the init file
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, edit the init file and put a line "session.appsFile: /path/to/apps-config"
[01:50] <tga> zblach, gnome has rhythmbox
[01:50] <zblach> tga, any good?
[01:50] <DewDude> errr...whatever
[01:50] <tga> zblach, among other things
[01:50] <dabaR> it is a list of packages that make up the standard ubuntu desktop.
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <tga> zblach, it's alright.. very iTunes-like
[01:50] <h0sl3r> ok
[01:50] <dabaR> and your apt-get will remove it at some point.
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, i dunno where fluxspace drops it by default though
[01:51] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fluxbox puts it in ~/.fluxbox/init
[01:51] <DewDude> but if i install the packages, kde's not gonna funk up on me?
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, no
[01:51] <DewDude> ok
[01:51] <DewDude> good deal
[01:51] <DewDude> i just wanted verification
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, you can safely have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed on your system
[01:51] <DewDude> i spent 2 hours fixing this thing last night
[01:51] <DewDude> i don't want to screw it up again
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, you'll just have more files to upgrade every time something new comes up
[01:51] <eheh> Hi, I have a 3dfx voodoo card installed on my computer, I just installed Ubuntu. How do I go about installing the correct video drivers? I searched for linux drivers for the card, I only came up with one that said the system requirement was redhat 6.1
[01:52] <jdermer> please guys
[01:52] <hobby> #ubuntu-es
[01:52] <DewDude> tga: not an issue
[01:52] <dabaR> jdermer: stop asking...if I knew Id tell you.
[01:52] <zblach> tga, does it decide to 'organize' your music folder for you?
[01:52] <samu2> when i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu, everything of course was still running. but... the menus felt really messy with some duplicate apps and then having both gnome and kde versions of the same type of app.
[01:53] <tga> zblach, not by default.. it might be an option
[01:53] <tmulle> oh well..guess i'm on my own :(
[01:53] <dabaR> samu2: it seems to me that each and every entry in the menus can be removed, as it is associated with a file in a folder.
[01:53] <zblach> tga, i have to add plugins??
[01:53] <jdermer> i got python-xdg 0.9.1 installed
[01:53] <jdermer> and i need 8.0
[01:53] <jdermer> which is obviously older
[01:53] <tga> zblach, depends on what you want it to do
[01:53] <zblach> tga, mp3
[01:53] <jdermer> but i need it to make gdesklets work right
[01:53] <Pyf> anyone know how to install the player for last.fm?
[01:53] <tga> zblach, it should Just Work
[01:54] <zblach> 'no plugin installed to handle *.mp3"
[01:54] <tga> Pyf, they have a player? or you mean the scrobbler plugin
[01:54] <tga> !tell zblach about mp3
[01:54] <Pyf> tga: i mean the player, for the radio section.... http://www.last.fm/postsignup.php
[01:55] <dabaR> jdermer: you have upgraded your system, by using breezy, or backports packages further than the hoary-supported system.
[01:55] <samu2> dabaR, oh yeah, i wasnt saying you cant restore the order. i just thought that having both installed at the same time, had its quirks.
[01:55] <cevizoglu> how do I make Terminal default to show menubar off?
[01:55] <dabaR> Ya, it was annoying when I did that too.
[01:55] <Pyf> its really good, i would advise it (from when i ran it with windows), cant get it to work with ubuntu though
[01:55] <jdermer> nope
[01:55] <jdermer> i didnt
[01:55] <dabaR> samu2: ^, also, I use openbox now, and screen in a console...I am enjoying that...
[01:55] <jdermer> just synaptic from the hoary repos
[01:55] <dabaR> jdermer: how come you have a higher version than is needed?
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> i have upgraded to breezy and now when i do make menuconfig en kernel i get this error:
[01:56] <thrush_2> Pyf, there is a linux binary on their site..
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: error: sys/types.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[01:56] <jdermer> thats eithr wut came with hoary or thats wut synaptic updated to
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> what could happend ?
[01:56] <dabaR> see, jdermer the python-xdg package is normally what is installed when you install smeg.
[01:56] <jdermer> wuts that
[01:57] <dabaR> synaptic uses what you tell it to. Do you use the ubuntuguide at times?
[01:57] <Pyf> thrush_2: ive tried to run that, i cd to the right folder, and then ./player but it just sits there and nothing happens, am i doing it wrong?
[01:57] <dooglus> does anyone have some example UTF-8 text with multi-byte characters that I could borrow please?
[01:57] <samu2> dabaR, openbox?
[01:57] <jdermer> wut do u mean it uses wut u tell it to
[01:57] <dabaR> samu2: ya, .org.
[01:57] <dabaR> please speak english.
[01:57] <thrush_2> Pyf, lemme play with it for a sec =)
[01:57] <dabaR> Its hard for me to read that way.
[01:58] <rainmaker> do i need an mp3 plugin for beep media player?
[01:58] <Pyf> thrush_2: thx
[01:58] <dabaR> you specify the sources.list, the repositories from which to get packages. in any case, 0.9.1 is standard hoary.
[01:58] <cevizoglu> Icr-b0y: I don't even know what language that is
[01:58] <jdermer> i told u it was
[01:58] <dabaR> jdermer: are you trying to install gdesklets, or something?
[01:58] <jdermer> yea
[01:58] <Zhukov_> jdermer, just install gdesklets
[01:58] <IcE-bOy> spanish
[01:58] <jdermer> the starterbar desklet for gdesklets
[01:58] <IcE-bOy> in what package are sys/types.h ? ?
[01:58] <jdermer> requires python-xdg 0.8
[01:59] <Zhukov_> oh
[01:59] <jdermer> 0.9 isnt compatable
[01:59] <dabaR> sudo aptitude install gdesklets
[01:59] <Zhukov_> you can always enligth your gnome
[01:59] <Zhukov_> jdermer, it works out better
[01:59] <jdermer> ?
[01:59] <jdermer> wut would enlightenment accomplish ?
[02:00] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy - sys/types.h is part of the core
[02:00] <Zhukov_> jdermer, there is an entry at the ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <jdermer> about
[02:00] <Zhukov_> use the search option and there is and entry about
[02:01] <Zhukov_> how to enligth you gnome, or ultimate eyecandy for gnome, something like that
[02:01] <Zhukov_> w8
[02:01] <IcE-bOy> cevizoglu: in breezy when i try to do a make menuconfig in kernel source i get this meesage
[02:02] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy: you should ask your question on #ubuntu-es, since it's in spanish
[02:02] <Zhukov_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=ultimate+eyecandy
[02:02] <Zhukov_> here
[02:02] <zcat[1] > anyole else trying to get breezy onto an oldworld PPC?
[02:03] <thrush_2> Pyf, are you running i386?
[02:03] <matthew_w> Guys
[02:03] <matthew_w> Seriously look at this logo http://spaces.msn.com/
[02:03] <matthew_w> Tell me that is not ubuntu.
[02:03] <IcE-bOy> cevizoglu: yes ... but i can ask here too
[02:03] <matthew_w> Someone high up in the ubuntu ranks should know about that.
[02:03] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> matthew_w: people ave been over this
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> over and over
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> leave it
[02:03] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy: in english, yeah
[02:03] <Pyf> thrush_2: err what is that? how wouold i knw....?
[02:04] <dylan_> are /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom et cetera the same thing?
[02:04] <zcat[1] > usually /dev/cdrom is a softlink that points to /dev/hdc (or wherever)
[02:04] <thrush_2> did you unpak the archive "tar .."?
[02:04] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone give me some more help? How do I get gtk themes working in root applications like Synaptic
[02:05] <dylan_> zcat[1] , so why is /dev/hdc 's dma not on, but /dev/cdrom IS ON.
[02:05] <Pyf> thrush_2: yeah, unpacked the whole folder to my desktop, then in terminal cd /home/desktop...etc... then ./player
[02:05] <Pyf> it just sits there flashing
[02:05] <zcat[1] > ls -l /dev/cdrom and check where yours is pointing? it may be /dev/hdd
[02:05] <Pyf> and i have to ctrl c to get it to stop...
[02:06] <mindframe> matthew_w, i dont understand how that is related to ubuntu
[02:06] <Vektram> can anyone help me with installing VLC?
[02:06] <dylan_> /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc
[02:06] <zcat[1] > ok, that's just weird then :)
[02:06] <matthew_w> mindframe; look at the logo
[02:06] <dylan_> zcat[1] , so how can i set dma to on (or 1, whatever) on /dev/hdc?
[02:06] <thrush_2> Pyf, strange comes right up when i run it
[02:06] <mindframe> oh right
[02:06] <zcat[1] > hdparm I think..
[02:07] <Zhukov_> anyone knows how i can restore the navigation bars in firefox?Those to sroll up and down
[02:07] <Sly> hdparm -da1 /bah/me .......... i beleive
[02:07] <Sly> -d1*
[02:07] <Vektram> can anyone help me with adding repositories?
[02:07] <Pyf> thrush_2: cam u think of any reason why it wouldnt, i thought it cud be to do with permissions, but i dont think that can be it....
[02:07] <dylan_> zcat[1] , i can hdparm those drives, but i however cannot make it permanent, even with a /etc/hdparm.conf edit
[02:07] <Vektram> i've tried to add the VLC player repositories listed on thier website and get the following error "http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/sarge/debian/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found"
[02:08] <zcat[1] > I'm not really familiar with how hdparm works sorry..
[02:08] <Vektram> i know what the problem is, just not how to fix it
[02:08] <mathmatt> is there an easy way to "upgrade" from hoary to 5.10?
[02:09] <thrush_2> Pyf, lemme play with source one more sec
[02:09] <dylan_> zcat[1] , ok wait nevermind ... /dev/cdrom and /dev/hdc both say no to dma.....its not on.  i was mistaken
[02:09] <zcat[1] > change repos and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:09] <Pyf> thrush_2: cheers
[02:09] <dylan_> zcat[1] , must i set it to both drives?
[02:09] <zcat[1] > dylan_: 'unknown' - I would expect only /dev/hdc, since /dev/cdrom isn't actually a device..
[02:10] <dylan_> zcat[1] , oh i see.....well i just set it to all my drives.
[02:10] <jdermer> yikes
[02:10] <thrush_2> Pyf, what kernel are you running?
[02:10] <dylan_> zcat[1] , i have a 52x cdrom drive and it copies cds at 3.8x.....ouch
[02:10] <jdermer> the gdesklets in the repos are just like so messed up
[02:11] <Pyf> thrush_2: err hoary, with kubuntu desktop
[02:11] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know how to 're-enable' the scroll on my mouse without reconfiguring X?
[02:11] <Pyf> but had the problem before and after kubuntu desktop...
[02:12] <thrush_2> Pyf, goto /boot what is the full vmlinuz filename?
[02:13] <mathmatt> I am running hoary, but would like to try out 5.10.  I downloaded the iso and have it on CD.  While running the installer, it seems that I have to wipe the partition to install.  Is this correct, or can I upgrade somehow?
[02:13] <mik3> what's some fun stuff to install
[02:13] <LethAL-Rocks> I dunno
[02:13] <dabaR> mathmatt: to upgrade, you dont need the cd. If you upgrade, the breezy is  not stable, so you might funk up your system.
[02:13] <LethAL-Rocks> linux-image's are fun to uninstall :P
[02:13] <gf> soh, no mythtv for breezy!!!!
[02:13] <gf> *doh
[02:13] <erUSUL> mathmatt, add the cd to the sources list
[02:14] <Pyf> thrush_2: vmlinuz.2.6-10-5-386
[02:14] <dylan_> is there a way that i can make a startup file that will enable dma for me?
[02:14] <Pyf> thrush_2: vmlinuz.2.6.10-5-386 even
[02:14] <Pyf> does that mean I am using i386?
[02:14] <LethAL-Rocks> Pyf: Yes
[02:14] <mathmatt> ok, thanks for the help.
[02:14] <hotte-> hi i need help plz how i can remove e link?
[02:14] <hotte-> sudo ln -d /usr/src/linux-2.6.13 /usr/src/linux
[02:15] <hotte-> thats wrong
[02:15] <hotte-> and now i cant remove my link
[02:15] <zcat[1] > well, breezy on x86 was truly a breeze!!
[02:15] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:15] <hotte-> sry sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.13 /usr/src/linux
[02:15] <hotte-> this was the right
[02:15] <hotte-> but now i will remove it how can i do?
[02:15] <zcat[1] > breezy on OldWorld is turning out a lot harder that Hoary was!
[02:16] <thrush_2> Pyf, it should run..try to redownload and extract sry man im off work. should be here tomarrow though if youre still having the problem =)
[02:16] <jdermer> question
[02:16] <jdermer> since the gdesklets in synaptic is messed up
[02:16] <jdermer> i got the source
[02:16] <jdermer> when i do ./configure
[02:16] <jdermer> it says there is no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:16] <durt> im not sure about the command hotte-, but you could sudo nautilus and just delete the link
[02:16] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone? Know about re-enabling the scroller on my usb mouse without reconfiguring X?
[02:17] <hotte-> durt: no chance
[02:17] <hotte-> :(
[02:17] <lymz> applications that launch with gksudo command don't seem tot be working for me
[02:17] <hotte-> i tried 1000 times ... near ... but i couldn remove
[02:18] <reiki> jdemer: install build-essentials
[02:18] <dylan_> in hdparm.conf, how do i set a drive to keepsettings = 1?
[02:19] <dabaR> reiki: no s
[02:19] <hotte-> :(
[02:19] <reiki> jdemmer: build-essential ( no "s")
[02:20] <reiki> thanks, dabaR... I'm tryin :)
[02:20] <LinuxJones> I must say Breezy is gonna rock when it is finally released !!
[02:20] <durt> hotte-, maybe ln -f ...
[02:20] <hotte-> k
[02:20] <jdermer> k
[02:20] <jdermer> thanx installin it noqw
[02:20] <reiki> I'm getting all my experimenting done on Hoary and I'll just wipe and install clean for Breezy
[02:20] <dylan_> how do i make a drive set to keepsettings = 1
[02:21] <dylan_> hdparm.conf
[02:21] <hotte-> hotte@horst:~$ sudo ln -f /usr/src/linux-2.6.1 /usr/src/linux
[02:21] <hotte-> but no chance he does not found it
[02:21] <zcat[1] > OOo2, cool..
[02:21] <dreamwave> just testing out the breeze preview.  it seems to drive my intel 2200bg wireless better than xp.  so far, i'm very impressed.
[02:21] <reiki> I'd REALLY like to get my usb flash drive working reliably
[02:21] <dreamwave> live cd breezy
[02:22] <durt> whats wrong with it reiki?
[02:22] <Xorlev> Meh, I think my DI-524 router won't let me use IPv6 stuff. It works outbound, but seemingly not inbound.
[02:23] <reiki> durt: it worked ONCE... but couldn't read the files on the drive. The system saw the drive and mounted is in /media .... then the second time it didn't show up, and fdisk -l found it in /dec/sda
[02:23] <reiki> /dev/sda
[02:23] <jdermer> nother question
[02:23] <jdermer> i got the build-essential now
[02:23] <jdermer> so i went to do ./configure again
[02:23] <DigitALLRed> hello alll
[02:23] <jdermer> and this time
[02:23] <Sly> sorry had lil trouble
[02:23] <jdermer> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:23] <Xorlev> Hello DigitALLRed.
[02:24] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, :)
[02:25] <Xorlev> digitalfox: Anything we can do for ya?
[02:25] <Xorlev> Meh
[02:25] <Xorlev> Wrong person
[02:25] <Xorlev> DigitALLRed: Anything we can do for ya?
[02:25] <ilba7r> !breezy
[02:26] <Xorlev> !windy
[02:26] <ubotu> Xorlev: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:26] <Vektram> jdermer: try getting a package called "intltool" from apt-get
[02:26] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, nope, just visiting... this is my first time on this channel
[02:27] <Xorlev> Ahh okies.
[02:27] <gyaresu> join #gentoo
[02:27] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, i`ve installed ubuntu a few times... gnome packages are great
[02:27] <jdermer> k ill try
[02:28] <Vektram> jdermer: i got that error with something (forgot what) installed intltool and it fixed it right away
[02:30] <lassesandberg> hi people
[02:30] <LinuxJones> lassesandberg, welcome
[02:30] <dabaR> Anyone played freedoom?
[02:30] <mik3> yah
[02:30] <mik3> well lxdoom
[02:30] <lassesandberg> can anyone here help me? i know pretty much nothing about linux. im trying to get media files to work. video. totem player will only play sound from them
[02:31] <jdermer> hmm
[02:31] <lilricky> what sort of video files?
[02:31] <lassesandberg> avi
[02:31] <jdermer> now ./configure is saying it cant find python.h
[02:31] <jdermer> and it needs the python dev package
[02:31] <durt> is usbfs mounted reiki, i really dont know how to help - sorry
[02:31] <lassesandberg> well, i would also like other formats to work. like wml. mpg and such
[02:31] <jdermer> i think i got it intalled alrdy tho
[02:31] <lilricky> need to install the windows codecs
[02:31] <DonL> dabaR, Yes. I just installed freedoom last week or so, and I'm stuck at one level now
[02:31] <lilricky> hold on, I'll try to find you a link
[02:31] <imterro> hello
[02:31] <imterro> would someone be able to help me with my wireless network
[02:32] <imterro> im trying to connect to a router
[02:32] <jdermer> yes i can help u with wireless
[02:32] <durt> trying to get your wlan card to work?
[02:32] <imterro> jdermer, cool, well it is telling me that the wireless network is up, yet i cant ping the router
[02:32] <jdermer> wuts it
[02:33] <imterro> wuts?
[02:33] <lilricky> here ya go lasses http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:33] <jdermer> u said IT is telling me the wireless network is up
[02:33] <jdermer> what is "IT"
[02:33] <lassesandberg> thanks alot
[02:33] <dylan_> how do i make a startup script to enable dma on my cdrom drives?
[02:33] <jdermer> ure gonna have to be specific if u want help
[02:33] <imterro> ah ubuntu
[02:33] <dylan_> jdermer, can you help me please
[02:33] <imterro> i ifconfig'd
[02:34] <jdermer> with wut dylan_
[02:34] <imterro> and it told me, up broadcast multicast
[02:34] <jdermer> u using ndiswrapper ?
[02:34] <imterro> i don tknow what that is
[02:34] <dylan_> jdermer, i want to make a script, that on startup will enable dma on my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd drives, as the /etc/hdparm.conf file will not do it form me
[02:34] <imterro> but it is ment to be dhcp
[02:34] <dabaR> mik3: same thing...did you ever get past level 3?
[02:35] <imterro> and its not being assigned an ipadd
[02:35] <lilricky> sigh, why cant ATI make decent linux drivers?  Got to jump through so many hoops just to get glxgears to run decently :(
[02:35] <imterro> its keeping the one i set for it at install
[02:35] <imterro> 192.168.0.1
[02:35] <jdermer> imterro ure new to this huh lol
[02:35] <mik3> naw i couldn't figure out how to open doors hehe
[02:35] <dabaR> ok.
[02:35] <Agrajag> spacebar
[02:35] <Agrajag> unless they changed it from the original
[02:35] <lakcaj> Does anyone know why alsaconf is not in alsa-utils?
[02:35] <jdermer> imterro wut wireless card u got
[02:35] <mik3> nope, but thanks captain obvious!
[02:35] <dabaR> Agrajag: ever got past level 3? it seems to be a room with no exits...
[02:36] <Agrajag> in what, doom, or some clone?
[02:36] <dabaR> free doom.
[02:36] <dylan_> jdermer, do you know how to do it?
[02:36] <Agrajag> oh, never played it
[02:36] <mik3> lxdoom
[02:36] <durt> dylan_ is the script written already?
[02:36] <eamonn> Hi all. I just dist-updated to breezy from hoary tonight and have two remaining issues. I don't have usplash (is there something else I'm supposed to do?) and Skype is unuseable because most of the interface appears all black.
[02:36] <DonL> I can't remember the level I'm stuck at, but there's no monstors, and the only door that looks like it leads somewhere only lets you in it partially
[02:36] <dylan_> um, i know how to set dma with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc but i do not know where to put the script...
[02:36] <dabaR> lxdoom seems to be just a wrapper around free doom.
[02:37] <imterro> jdermer, i just have the one that comes std with an acer aspire 210
[02:37] <dylan_> jdermer, will you help me write and place the script?
[02:37] <imterro> *2010
[02:37] <mik3> yeah i installed a bunch of crap
[02:37] <dabaR> DonL: ya, 3rd level, seems that is how they made it, only one level really...
[02:37] <DonL> dabaR, so that's the one. I'd like to know how to get past it
[02:37] <dabaR> You cant pass the one level but on easiest anyhow...well, I cant yet anyhow...
[02:38] <dabaR> DonL: Ill let you know if I find anything out.
[02:38] <DonL> Great. Thanks!
[02:38] <dylan_> jdermer, please help
[02:38] <durt> dylan_ put "script.sh" (whatever its named) in /etc/init.d - then run "sudo update-rc.d script.sh defaults"
[02:38] <kent> what wiki is used for Ubuntulinux.org's wiki?
[02:38] <jdermer> y are u asking me dylan_
[02:39] <reiki> my usb flashdrive is now showing up in /media/usbdisk ... however there doesn't appear to be a way to unmount it from the GUI
[02:39] <dylan_> jdermer, i assume you know......and how do i write the script correctly please?
[02:39] <durt> reiki, right click on the icon on the desktop and hit unmount
[02:39] <dreamwave> i just used the disk manager to enable my windows ntfs drive.  it is enabled but only root has access to it.  how to I make the ubuntu user have access to it?  i'm using the breezy live preview cd.
[02:39] <jdermer> y would u assume that i know
[02:39] <reiki> durt: there is no desktop icon
[02:39] <thoreauputic> kent: moin moin I seem to recall
[02:40] <reiki> durt: I found it by navigating to /media directory
[02:40] <eamonn> hi all, let's take this one at a time: I've just dist-updated to breezy from hoary and have no uspash. I just see the normal boot messages. How do I enable usplash?
[02:40] <flodine> is there something i need to to make ubuntu run better on dual chips
[02:40] <dylan_> jdermer, you use linux
[02:40] <eamonn> flodine, you need to install the smp kernel.
[02:40] <kent> thoreauputic, thanks. It must be themeable then? Since it dont look like moinmoin normally do.. :)
[02:40] <thoreauputic> flodine: are you using a 686 kernel?
[02:41] <flodine> ok did that
[02:41] <LinuxJones> flodine, your running the smp kernel ?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> kent: no idea sorry - I just seemed to remember that was what it was - I may be wrong though
[02:41] <flodine> can i allcate each chip
[02:41] <flodine> yes
[02:42] <imterro> well can anyone help me
[02:42] <flodine> LinuxJone
[02:42] <jdermer> imterro ive tried helping u
[02:42] <pr1r> whats gst-register.... just got this shit
[02:42] <jdermer> u dont even know wut wireless chipset u have
[02:42] <pr1r> have no clue
[02:42] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no, use /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:42] <durt> dylan_ is it just that one command that you want to run at boot?
[02:42] <dylan_> thoreauputic, it doesnt work for me
[02:42] <dylan_> durt, and no....
[02:42] <imterro> jdermer how am i supposed to find that out?
[02:42] <dylan_> durt, at least i dont think so
[02:42] <flodine> is there a program that will allocate what chip does what for duals
[02:42] <robotgeek> imterro: lspci -v
[02:43] <durt> vlc is taking forever to compile...
[02:43] <robotgeek> imterro: do that in a terminal, "lspci -v"
[02:43] <dylan_> thoreauputic, editing /etc/hdparm.conf does absolutely nothing when i try to enable dma on /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd....can you help me?
[02:43] <imterro> yeah thanks
[02:43] <flodine> anyone
[02:43] <thoreauputic> dylan_: are you sure you have the right syntax ?
[02:44] <dylan_> thoreauputic, its /dev/hdc {  <new line> dma = on <new line> } right?
[02:44] <DonL> flodine, sorry from me. I just use one so I don't know
[02:44] <flodine> is there someone running dual chip ewho can help
[02:44] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you have dma enabled?
[02:45] <imterro> i have a intel cop. PRO/wireless 2200BG (rev 5)
[02:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yes - and that looks OK form here :/
[02:45] <thoreauputic> *from
[02:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so why doesnt it work?  very very odd.....will you help?
[02:45] <imterro> t that helps at all
[02:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I'm no hdparm expert :)
[02:45] <robotgeek> imterro: that helps
[02:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you know somebody who is?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: does seem od that it isn't working
[02:46] <eamonn> Anyone here running Skype on breezy? Does it appear normal to you? Mine has a screwed up display -- almost completely black, except for the icons.
[02:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, yes its very odd, but whenever i enable it manually from the terminal it works for that boot period.  i want it on all the time
[02:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: not offhand, no - you can try puyying commands at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[02:46] <flodine> help
[02:47] <imterro> robotgeek is it not supported?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> s/puyying/putting
[02:47] <robotgeek> imterro: checking up, moment
[02:47] <durt> dylan_ then just do what i said
[02:47] <dylan_> durt, what did you say?
[02:47] <dylan_> thoreauputic, can you help me put those commands in there?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I know I used to put commands for hdparm in the file I just mentioned, and it worked fine
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: just put them at the end of the file before "exit"
[02:48] <bz0b> hey all
[02:48] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so if i was to do the whole dma = on thingy it would work?
[02:48] <pr1r> ok so since no one wants to answer the last question how bout this
[02:48] <pr1r> half life 2
[02:48] <pr1r> can i get it to work
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no, use the command syntax, not the config syntax
[02:48] <robotgeek> imterro: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I i guess it's supported
[02:48] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so its sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc in the file, right?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: as if you were doing it manually from a terminal
[02:48] <robotgeek> !tell imterro about ndiswrapper
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yup
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, include sudo ?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> no sudo needed
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thakns
[02:49] <robotgeek> imterro: read that wiki article on how to setup ndiswrapper
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, will you be here in 5 mins?
[02:49] <jdermer> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc'
[02:49] <jdermer> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[02:49] <jdermer> No package 'pygtk-2.0' found
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it's a start up script so it runs as root
[02:49] <jdermer> any idea wut thats all about ?
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, will you be here if it doesnt wrk for me?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I might be :)
[02:49] <bluefoxicy> <ubuntu installer> :Configuring blt
[02:49] <jdermer> when i try to ./configure something
[02:49] <bluefoxicy> BLT!
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thanks a 1x10^238432
[02:49] <jdermer> i got python gtk 2
[02:49] <cute_bettong> whats the default font for ubuntu?
[02:50] <cute_bettong> anyone know?
[02:50] <reiki> can anyone give me a hand figuring out why my USB flash drive doesn't show up on my desktop when the system can see that it's plugged in? I also don't know how to unmount it ...unless I just do that from terminal
[02:50] <eamonn> how do I get usplash to work? I just dist-updated to breezy from hoary this evening and I'm just getting the normal boot messages.
[02:50] <imterro> robotgeek thanks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it should work - just make sure you put it at the end of the script before "exit"
[02:50] <robotgeek> imterro: no probs
[02:51] <LinuxJones> cute_bettong, system >> Preferences >> font
[02:51] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt in breezy?
[02:51] <jdermer> any ideas ?
[02:51] <DonL> reiki, try looking in "Places", "Computer".
[02:51] <ssdd65> dose anyone here know of any LIGHTWEIGHT weather prediction software?
[02:51] <reiki> DonL: it's not showing there either
[02:52] <DonL> reiki, did you plug it in live?
[02:52] <reiki> DonL: yes
[02:52] <thoreauputic> root__: please don't run IRC as root
[02:52] <root__> ok
[02:52] <dylan_> thoreauputic, it didnt work....the eidt for /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh .... must i refresh the init.d folder and how?
[02:52] <robotgeek> reiki: System -> Preferences -> Removable Media and Disks, make sure you have the correct options set
[02:53] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it will only run when you boot, normally
[02:53] <DonL> reiki, should show up somewhere.
[02:53] <dylan_> thoreauputic, i rebooted and nothing happened
[02:53] <dylan_> thoreauputic, in terms of dma being on
[02:53] <reiki> robotgeek, those settings appear to be correct
[02:53] <thoreauputic> dylan_: but if you do it manually it works??
[02:54] <dylan_> thoreauputic, if i do it from the terminal it works just fine
[02:54] <dylan_> thoreauputic, but i dont want to do that
[02:54] <jdermer> any ideas peoples ?
[02:54] <DonL> robotgeek, right. Forgot about that
[02:54] <robotgeek> reiki: okay, then in a terminal, type gnome-volume-manager
[02:54] <durt> dylan_: sudo update-rc.d bootmisc.sh defaults
[02:54] <reiki> DonL: I can see the drive mounted as /media/usbdisk ... fdisk -l shows it as /dev/sda1 ... so it mounted it, but can't read it or I can't see files or anything
[02:54] <thoreauputic> hmm - sorry then. It is extremely weird thet it doesn't execute from that script if you put the command there at the end before the exit line
[02:55] <dylan_> durt, i get the message System startup links for /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh already exist.
[02:55] <reiki> robotgeek, : should I sudo that?
[02:55] <robotgeek> reiki: nope
[02:55] <dylan_> thoreauputic, yeah its odd
[02:55] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -o uid=username /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[02:55] <BlueEagle> reiki: with sudo ofcourse.
[02:55] <dabaR> ts mounted....
[02:55] <dabaR> why not try sudo ls?
[02:55] <durt> dylan_: make a new script.sh file in that directory and run the same thing but with script.sh then
[02:55] <reiki> ** (gnome-volume-manager:8836): WARNING **: manager.c/1381: already running?
[02:56] <durt> damn it
[02:56] <BlueEagle> dabar: Because you don't want to have to be superuser to access the files?
[02:56] <firez> Does anyone here use openbox or fluxbox?, I can't use anything when I install any of them
[02:56] <dabaR> reiki: that sounnds right.
[02:56] <dabaR> BlueEagle: well, to test if he can see them as sudo, first...
[02:56] <BlueEagle> dabar: Intriguing approach. Check if a deprechiated way works before doing it "the right way"(tm) hehe
[02:57] <robotgeek> reiki: yeah...weird. okay, try putting a drive-mount applet in your panel and see if that helps
[02:57] <dabaR> BlueEagle:ok, we'll again see whether it works. btw, he has to umopunt it first...
[02:57] <imterro> !tell imterro about ndiswrapper
[02:57] <reiki> robotgeek, drive mount works when I insert a cdrom... will this break anything? :)
[02:57] <BlueEagle> dabar: what does mount say btw?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> dabar: ie. which filesystem is it?
[02:58] <dabaR> he has the drive mounted...
[02:58] <robotgeek> reiki: i have my drives show up in the applet when i insert stuff in there
[02:58] <robotgeek> firez: i have openbox installed. what's the issue?
[02:58] <dabaR> firez: I use openbox, as well.
[02:58] <reiki> dabaR: typing sudo ls /media/usbdisk yields nothing. No error
[02:59] <reiki> but no files either
[02:59] <firez> I can't see anything when I install them
[02:59] <dabaR> they are not there then.
[02:59] <transgress> it's like blackbox DonL
[02:59] <dabaR> DonL: openbox.org
[02:59] <BlueEagle> reiki: which filesystem does this device use?
[02:59] <firez> is just an empty dektop and it doesnt show up my apps
[02:59] <DonL> Ah I'll have a look
[02:59] <reiki> BlueEagle: fdisk -l tells me it's FAT16
[02:59] <dabaR> firez: off course, use the right click
[02:59] <BlueEagle> firez: You need to setup your menu with openbox iirc.
[02:59] <dabaR> what is iirc?
[02:59] <zcat[1] > YAY!!! Figured out what I did, I now have Breezy on a beige PPC!!
[02:59] <BlueEagle> reiki: I see. What does mount (with no argument) say about it?
[03:00] <firez> yes, but i don't see any option to do that
[03:00] <BlueEagle> dabar: iirc is if I remember correctly iirc
[03:00] <dabaR> thanks.
[03:00] <firez> is very weird I just see the mouse cursor and the menu when i click the right button
[03:00] <robotgeek> firez: that's the idea :)
[03:00] <dabaR> firez: right click on the desktop.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> iirc is If I Remember Correctly
[03:00] <thoreauputic> oops
[03:01] <firez> yes, but I only got exit, shutdown and that's it no apps, not even a config utility
[03:01] <dabaR> then, choose terminal. firez .
[03:01] <dabaR> there has to be a terminal.
[03:01] <reiki> BlueEagle: I don't see it listed in mount, but I see this line in there...usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:01] <firez> do I need to launch something in the terminal when I'm in openbox?
[03:01] <dabaR> well, if you want to.
[03:01] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well if it isn't listed when you type mount I doubt that it is mounted.
[03:01] <dabaR> firez: how come you chose to use openbox?
[03:02] <DonL> dabaR, my question too
[03:02] <firez> in the log on screen
[03:02] <gorilla> ubotu, iirc is If I Remember Correctly
[03:02] <ubotu> gorilla: i already had it that way
[03:02] <dabaR> firez: why did you decide to go openbox?
[03:02] <firez> metacity takes too much memory
[03:02] <thoreauputic> gorilla: done already
[03:02] <BlueEagle> firez: If you don't know you might want to A) use something else or B) read a manual or how-to setup openbox.
[03:02] <thoreauputic> gorilla: heh
[03:02] <dabaR> firez: so you want gnome to use openbox?
[03:03] <BlueEagle> firez: Also have a look-see at rox if you want a filemanager. I think I was quite happy with it.
[03:03] <firez> I used DSL in my usb and I wanted to use the WM in my ubuntu installlation
[03:03] <firez> thanks
[03:03] <thoreauputic> gorilla: I did it a minute ago :)
[03:03] <dabaR> rox is not a package
[03:03] <thoreauputic> rox-filer
[03:03] <BlueEagle> thoreauputic: Yes, that's the one. :)
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !info rox-filer
[03:04] <ubotu> rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[03:04] <dabaR> wth can I not install it...
[03:04] <BlueEagle> dabar: Got all the repositories?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[03:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:05] <thoreauputic> dabaR: you need the universe repo
[03:05] <dabaR> firez: to set up gnome to use openbox instead of metacity...you need to edit the configuration manager...
[03:05] <dabaR> ya, well, I know that, dummies:)
[03:05] <dabaR> Off course I need to figure it out...
[03:05] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> dabaR: glad to see you modified that...
[03:05] <dabaR> heh, ya, sorry...
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: So, if you try mount -t fat16 -o uid=username /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[03:06] <firez> dabar: configuration manager? is that app located at the log on screen
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: And then try to ls the mountpoint, does that help at all?
[03:06] <dabaR> its installed, that is the deal...
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: (It was listed as sda1 in fdisk -l, right?)
[03:06] <reiki> it was listed as /dev/sda1 yes... I'm going to try mointing it again now...
[03:07] <dabaR> firez: no, you still want to use gnome, as I understand, you just want a different wm. Anyone recommend him to use openbox over enlightenment?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> reiki: After running the mount command, if you're still not able to find your files try mount with no arguments again to see if it's listed now.
[03:07] <eamonn> Hi all. How do you use mkinitramfs to enable usplash? I've just dist-upgraded to breezy and I'm just seeing the normal boot messages.
[03:07] <firez> dabar: is enlightenment lighter than gnome at the system resources?
[03:07] <marty> firez, Enlightenment rocks if you can get it to work properly. Well, at least version 17.
[03:08] <DonL> marty, I couldn't get it to work properly for me
[03:08] <jdermer> i got a question
[03:08] <firez> dabar: I thought Openbox isn't a desktop enviroment as gnome or kde
[03:08] <jdermer> how do u find a target command for an app
[03:08] <jdermer> like firefox
[03:08] <reiki> BlueEagle, I have to create a mount point for this? It's dynamic... like should I touch /home/username/Desktop/mount-point-name ?
[03:08] <dabaR> firez: exactly.
[03:08] <jdermer> its mozilla-firefox
[03:08] <jdermer> cause im setting up starterbar for gdesklets
[03:08] <dabaR> jdermer: dpkg -L packageName
[03:08] <BlueEagle> reiki: mkdir ~/drive
[03:08] <firez> I see, well there's not too much option besides gnome, kde is more or less resource hunfry
[03:08] <firez> *hungry
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -t fat16 -o uid=username /dev/sda1 ~/drive
[03:09] <thoreauputic> firez: there's xfce4 as well
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: you are using the default gnome, that uses metacity as the wm.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> firez: it's a DE
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls ~/drive
[03:09] <jdermer> that didnt work
[03:09] <jdermer> and im not sure we;re talkin about the same thing
[03:09] <marty> DonL, That is too bad. It is sweet
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: you can specify, through the config manager, in APps>System Tools in gnome, to use something else.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: It needs to be mounted on a directory.
[03:09] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: for example, that openbox.
[03:10] <firez> I see, I will try that
[03:10] <dabaR> or you can run openbox, and start all the gnome apps you want...like the panel, esd, whatever.
[03:10] <DonL> marty, I know. I tried to install it in Ubuntu, and it screwed up and I had to google for a way to get rid of it...
[03:10] <jdermer> wut i mean is
[03:10] <jdermer> if i wanted to run firefox
[03:10] <reiki> BlueEagle, unknown filesystem type fat16
[03:10] <jdermer> id open a term
[03:10] <jdermer> and i could type in
[03:10] <jdermer> mozilla-firefox
[03:10] <jdermer> and firefox would open
[03:10] <dabaR> firez: on the forums, there is stuff about enlightenment which is a common replacement for metacity.
[03:10] <BlueEagle> reiki: cat /proc/filesystems|grep fat
[03:10] <jdermer> wut would be the command for say the open office word processor
[03:10] <BlueEagle> reiki: What does that list?
[03:10] <dabaR> jdermer: I told you how to find out.
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer: please don't use the enter key as punctuation
[03:11] <DonL> ...then I downloaded e-live and it looked nice but wouldn't run at anything but 320x480 or something. In firefox I had to xcroll all over the place to read the huge print
[03:11] <dabaR> Yes, send in one message, its easier for you to get help...
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer:  oowriter
[03:11] <reiki> BlueEagle, : doesn't list anything at all
[03:11] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: type "dpkg -l openoffice2" and it should tell you all the installed thing
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer: type oo <hit tab twice>
[03:11] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, then we need to find support for the filesystem. :)
[03:11] <BlueEagle> reiki: sudo modprobe fat16
[03:12] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC @ ubuntu.. what can I do to fix this? cmon guys I cant be the first with this problem :)
[03:12] <reiki> BlueEagle, I thought it was there by default in Hoary
[03:12] <jdermer> no package found matching openoffice2
[03:12] <jdermer> i got 1.1
[03:12] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, apperantly it is not. :)
[03:12] <jdermer> is there even a 2 ?
[03:12] <reiki> BlueEagle, module fat16 not found
[03:12] <BlueEagle> reiki: I see.
[03:12] <thoreauputic> jdermer: erm - oo <hit tab twice>
[03:13] <jdermer> that doesnt do anything for me
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: try sudo modprobe fat
[03:13] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: use the dpkg command on whatever the pkg name is
[03:13] <thoreauputic> jdermer: that will show you the openoffice commands
[03:13] <wetha> can anyone help me? I cannot change the chmod of my filesystem - it is stuck on 444...
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: or even sudo depmod -a
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: then cat /proc/filesystems|grep fat
[03:13] <jdermer> wait
[03:13] <jdermer> 1 sec
[03:13] <jdermer> got it thanx
[03:13] <dabaR> there is a openoffice.org2 package. aptitude search openoffice.org2...
[03:13] <dabaR> or use synaptic to search for things.
[03:13] <jdermer> how is someone supposed to know to do oo tho
[03:14] <jdermer> since when i launch apps i usually use the gnome menu'
[03:14] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok ran the modprobe AND the depmod -a and then cat again shows nothing at all
[03:14] <dabaR> jdermer: I told you, each package files can be listed using dpkg -L
[03:14] <BlueEagle> reiki: Wait, my mistake. The filesystem should be called msdos. My bad.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> jdermer: well, that's why people told you dpkg -L <packagename>
[03:14] <greenhodge> join #ubuntu
[03:14] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -t msdos -o uid=username /dev/sda1 ~/drive
[03:14] <jdermer> which didnt list nething for me
[03:14] <jdermer> i tried dpkg -l openoffice
[03:15] <dabaR> marty: have you killall esd yet in a terminal?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> jdermer: if you don't know the package name you can do apt-cache search open office
[03:15] <thoreauputic> for example
[03:15] <thoreauputic> jdermer: capital -L
[03:15] <macintos1r>  /quit
[03:15] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok a 256MB removeable media showed up... in places... but it doesn't appear to open :)
[03:15] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: you can also right click on 'openoffice' in synaptic and it'll give you the option to show all the installed files
[03:15] <dabaR> jdermer: also, the package name is openoffice.org
[03:16] <greenhodge> Can someone here help a newbie (me) with a monitor issue?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> jdermer: please pay attention to what people tell you
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: does not appear to open?
[03:16] <wetha> Again, can't change the chmod of my filesystem, even as root and even using the terminal
[03:16] <wetha> they appear to change but dont
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: What does it appear to do then?
[03:16] <reiki> I can't browse it OR get properties... it has hung the "PLaces" app
[03:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:16] <wetha> any suggestions??!
[03:16] <marty> dabaR, how might that help? If I kill esd, then the GNOME desktop will not have sound, which would mean Firefox and other apps would not have accessablity to the sound card, right?
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: Hmm...
[03:17] <BlueEagle> reiki: did you ll your username correctly then?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> spell*
[03:17] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm using a KDE app (kile) in warty.  Is there some way to tell kile to not generate sound effects?  I can't find anything under Settings in the program.
[03:17] <dabaR> wetha: well, you need to tell us that right away, what you tried, and paste some stuff, and tell us everything...that is why I did not answer your question, cause you did not make it easy to answer.
[03:17] <Gobbla> marty: whats the problem?
[03:17] <jdermer> just out of curiosity
[03:17] <jdermer> y wouldnt synaptic have updated my oo 1.1 to 2.0 ?
[03:17] <dabaR> marty: you are completely right. it would stop the noise.
[03:18] <thoreauputic> jdermer: because 2 is beta
[03:18] <dabaR> jdermer: cause its beta still, and a different package.
[03:18] <reiki> BlueEagle, in the mount command? uid= my correct username
[03:18] <BlueEagle> ensignredshirt: You might need to turn them off in the KDE control center.
[03:18] <finn_> does anyone actually use ipv6 for anything yet?
[03:18] <jdermer> o i didnt know it was beta
[03:18] <greenhodge> Question: ubuntu is only letting me choose one screen resolution (640x480). How can i get more options?
[03:18] <dabaR> finn_: it is used for some things.
[03:18] <gorilla> rather than killing esd, use esdctl off to diable it... works like flighjtgear which accesses the sound card directly.
[03:18] <jdermer> i just  searched with synaptic
[03:18] <jdermer> it doesnt say its beta
[03:18] <thoreauputic> finn_: some peole do
[03:18] <thoreauputic> *people
[03:18] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls -l ~/|grep drive
[03:18] <finn_> dabaR, it seems to be causing my wireless connection to time out
[03:19] <thoreauputic> jdermer: well, it is
[03:19] <finn_> disabling it has made the problem go away, but now i dont' know if other things will be broken
[03:19] <jdermer> u using 2.0 ?
[03:19] <EnsignRedshirt> BlueEagle: Where is the KDE control center?  I'm using the default ubuntu gnome desktop.
[03:19] <dabaR> jdermer: visit the openoffice.org web site, and read about it.
[03:19] <thoreauputic> jdermer: it's also a different package, as someone pointed out
[03:19] <boman_> Is it possible to make my tv always show videos in fullscreen while my monitor just showing it in a small window?
[03:19] <reiki> BlueEagle, drwxr-xr-x  9 yardbird root     16384 1969-12-31 19:00 usb-drive
[03:19] <jdermer> yes i can see its a diff package
[03:19] <jdermer> i was wondering y
[03:19] <jdermer> but now i know its beta
[03:19] <punkass> does anyone know how to compile an extra module for php5?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> ensignredshirt: Well, when installing the kde app you would probably had installed the kde-base (including the control center) but I am not sure about that however. :/
[03:20] <punkass> i need php5-mcrypt but its not in breezy
[03:20] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls ~/drive
[03:20] <wetha> thnx dabaR, i logged in as root, clicked on properties of the filesystem (its a primary partition on a dual boot system)and tried to chmod 777, it says 'sorry, couldnt change permission settings'. Tried the terminal command 'chmod -v +rwxXst /dev/hda', but that printed 'permissions changed' but did nothing
[03:20] <marty> Gobbla, I have this problem where when GNOME starts, the drumming sound for the startup loops. Not too sure why..... If I kill ALSA it goes away, of course, but it would be nice to have Breezy jnot do that.
[03:20] <boman_> Cuz I've searched on google/ubuntuforums and such for a looong looong time and I can't find a thing about it. :(
[03:21] <Gobbla> marty: ic...
[03:21] <reiki> BlueEagle, that appears to be working... not sure these are even my files
[03:21] <dabaR> wetha: why would a person allow read and write permissions to his whole hard drive?
[03:21] <jdermer> skype isnt in synaptic... thats surprising
[03:21] <drummer87> hi, i'm having trouble with a large tarball.. i've imaged my hard drive using tar to backup to a dvd but can't add the file in gnomebaker or graveman and when i try to view properties, the file dissapears until i refresh the folder. any ideas???
[03:21] <firez> wow, I tried fluxbox and it only show me an empty dektop and just 2 options on the menu (xterm and exit)
[03:21] <avanspronsen> !skype
[03:21] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:21] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, unles you had a directory called drive in your home directory before then these are the files on the media mounted.
[03:22] <thoreauputic> wetha: chmod 777 is a *very* bad idea BTW
[03:22] <marty> Gobbla, exactly....
[03:22] <dabaR> firez: that is how they work...
[03:22] <BlueEagle> reiki: Why places is hanging is another issue though.  :/
[03:22] <wetha> dabaR: at present it seems I cant copy anything to the disk etc...
[03:22] <BlueEagle> wetha: Which filesystem is it?
[03:22] <dabaR> firez: they are minimal, so you can add stuff to them...
[03:22] <reiki> BlueEagle, well it's mounted as usb-drive :)  actually these ARE my files but it's terribly slow trying to read anything from that drive
[03:22] <firez> dabar: I thought it copied the settings of the default menus on gnome
[03:22] <wetha> BlueEagle: Ext3
[03:22] <dabaR> wetha: ya, is this your / partition?
[03:22] <wetha> dabaR: yes
[03:23] <dabaR> firez: not at all.
[03:23] <reiki> BlueEagle, it listed in termin using ls very quickly... but the GUI is having problems
[03:23] <BlueEagle> wetha: Well not really. /dev/hda is the whole drive and not a single partition afaik.
[03:23] <jdermer> o
[03:23] <dabaR> wetha: you dont want to have your / partition 777...
[03:23] <BlueEagle> reiki:
[03:23] <jdermer> thanx
[03:23] <jdermer> it says its sorta unstable in ubuntu
[03:23] <wetha> BlueEagle: ahah...
[03:23] <jdermer> hmmm
[03:23] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, that's down to the gui.
[03:23] <firez> dabar: is there any app on the repository to edit the fluxbox enviroment
[03:23] <dabaR> wetha: do you have a /home/wetha?
[03:23] <wetha> dabaR: understood, so whats the problem?
[03:23] <jdermer> waiiiiit am i understanding this right
[03:23] <dabaR> firez: those things are edited through config files.
[03:23] <jdermer> skype will only run under KDE >?
[03:24] <wetha> dabaR: well, I use my real name but yeah...
[03:24] <thoreauputic> wetha: if you chmod your root partition 777 , things will break spectacularly
[03:24] <reiki> BlueEagle, now am I going to have to go into terminal and remount this every time I insert it? That's going to suck out loud :)
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: If you try navigating there from your home partition instead of the removable media icon, does that hep at alll?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> help* all*
[03:24] <dabaR> firez: I can show you how to ecit the config file for openbox, and there is a #fluxbox.
[03:24] <firez> I will try that but it seems really weird that i can't even see a file explorer
[03:24] <wetha> thoreauputic: ya I got that :)
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: Just add it to you fstab
[03:24] <dabaR> wetha: that is where you should save files...
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: probably want it somewhere else though.
[03:25] <dabaR> ls -l /home/wetha, and paste that here, just one line...
[03:25] <wetha> dabaR: problem is I have no access to write to anywhere, including my home folder
[03:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: It's a usb stick, right?
[03:25] <firez> thanks, is that channel located this server?
[03:25] <dabaR> yes.
[03:25] <reiki> yeah it's usb stick
[03:25] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC .. what can I do to fix this? cmon guys I cant be the first with this problem :)
[03:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: mkdir /mnt/usbdrive
[03:25] <jdermer> skype is a kde app ?
[03:25] <reiki> BlueEagle, I was hoping this would be less painful :)
[03:26] <dabaR> jdermer: no, its a voip like app, for all major OSs.
[03:26] <thoreauputic> jdermer: no, it uses QT but it's proprietary
[03:26] <gorilla> Gobbla, you aren't helping yourself enough... watch it with which program.
[03:26] <cobhcf> hello
[03:26] <Gobbla> VLC
[03:26] <cobhcf> !list
[03:26] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:26] <gorilla> !vlc
[03:26] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[03:26] <BlueEagle> reiki: sudo echo /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive msdos noauto,user 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
[03:26] <reiki> BlueEagle, kinda weird that it showed up in /media/usbdrive  and yet couldn't be read there... isn't it?
[03:27] <cobhcf> !urls
[03:27] <ubotu> cobhcf: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:27] <Gobbla> gorilla: i have tried that
[03:27] <jdermer> dabar i dont think u understood my question lol
[03:27] <thoreauputic> cobhcf: this isn't a wareZ channel ;)
[03:27] <cobhcf> ok
[03:27] <jdermer> thanx thoreau
[03:27] <jdermer> the link u sent me said skype for linux is made to run on kde
[03:27] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, as long as it doesn't show up when typing mount w/o arguments it's not mounted correctly. Might be a bug in the auto-mounter.
[03:27] <wetha> dabar: ok, I have the list, now how do I (successfuly) change the permissions to allow writing? (In case you didnt already realise - I'm a complete Linux noob...:-)
[03:27] <gorilla> Gobbla, I thought vlc was a video source you were trying to access... sorry i can't help more.
[03:27] <cobhcf> i need some info and help on running Ubuntu on my AMD 64 machine
[03:28] <thoreauputic> jdermer: it will run on any window manager or DE
[03:28] <Gobbla> gorilla: thanx for trying :)
[03:28] <jdermer> ""Because Skype is a KDE application and KDE has not been configured for most Ubuntu users...."
[03:28] <dabaR> wetha: what is the line saying? paste it here..the output of ls -l /home/wertha.
[03:28] <jdermer> o
[03:28] <nfinitep1astik> anyone would like to try to help me to get ALSA working correctly?
[03:28] <jdermer> the wiki u sent me didnt talk about that
[03:28] <cobhcf> I AM fairly new to Linux and need some help
[03:29] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: Then I suggest you ask a question. :)
[03:29] <reiki> BlueEagle, if I append this to fstab and the drive isn't in there when I boot... isn't it going to hang a while looking for it?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> reiki: No, that's what the noauto bit is for.
[03:29] <reiki> ahhh... ok
[03:29] <thoreauputic> jdermer:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto  <-- is this what you were looking at?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> reiki: Even without it you would only get a quick error message stating that it can't be mounted.
[03:30] <nfinitep1astik> anyone would like to try to help me to get ALSA working correctly?
[03:30] <cobhcf> i cant seem to install from the image i downloaded earlier today
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way I can up the amount of keys I can press in Linux at one time (example, I can press Q and W but I can't press X while I hold down Q and W)
[03:30] <wetha> dabaR: total 692
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  10228 2005-09-11 00:56 config.h
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 115773 2005-09-11 00:56 config.log
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  64349 2005-09-11 00:56 config.status
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   6957 2005-09-11 01:30 configure.log
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   8 joel joel  4096 2005-09-11 01:49 Desktop
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   5 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 doc
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 joel joel   4096 2005-09-11 01:42 FC4
[03:30] <gorilla> cobhcf, did you check the md5 checksum of the iso that you have?
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 include
[03:30] <jdermer> yes
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 intl
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 lib
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 202716 2005-09-11 00:56 libtool
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 202506 2005-09-11 00:45 libtool-nofpic
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 m4
[03:30] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: System->Preferences->Sound Uncheck start soundserver at startup, killall esd, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector choose alsa and test.
[03:30] <reiki> wtf?
[03:31] <cobhcf> gorilla: nope
[03:31] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  24991 2005-09-11 00:56 Makefile
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   5 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 misc
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 po
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x  36 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 src
[03:31] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root     23 2005-09-11 00:56 stamp-h1
[03:31] <boman_> :(
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> flood
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 win32
[03:31] <BlueEagle> nice wetha
[03:31] <davro> flood er
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> !flood
[03:31] <ubotu> somebody said flood was for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> !ops
[03:31] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:31] <gorilla> cobhcf, if the image is corrupted when you downloaded it, then you won't have a chance to install from it when burnt onto a cd.
[03:31] <cobhcf> gorilla: Yes i did now - all i see is a whole bunch of gibberish
[03:31] <dabaR> thoreauputic: heh:-/ my bad, raelly:)
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> haha Nalioth as a op
[03:31] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: thanks, that works
[03:32] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: You're welcome. :)
[03:32] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: he is:)
[03:32] <h0sl3r> mindframe: did you get fluxspace to work?
[03:32] <cobhcf> i dloaded from the Ubuntu site :)
[03:32] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: did you chekc the md5-sum of the .iso?
[03:32] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: yea he bragged to me when he first got the honor
[03:32] <cobhcf> yeah blueeagle: all gibberish in there
[03:32] <thedevilsjester> Ok if I have an existing ubuntu install, and I put in the new 5.10 PR, it will 'upgrade' my current install without breaking it right?  Not like Redhats old upgraders that broke your system half the time?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: ?
[03:32] <cobhcf> i got the ISO from Ubuntu site
[03:33] <BlueEagle> !md5sum
[03:33] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Are you smoking crack?
[03:33] <cobhcf> how i check that?
[03:33] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: quick additional question?
[03:33] <thedevilsjester> Anyone?
[03:33] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: who says the upgrade to an unstable version wont break anything?
[03:33] <DonL> thedevilsjester, I'd wait for next month personally
[03:34] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... I just found out it has to mounted under /media in order to be able to UNmount it from the gui... sheeesh :)
[03:34] <thedevilsjester> I dont mean nessiarily to the unstable version, I mean in general
[03:34] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: get a md5sum checker for windows. Use yoru favorite web search engine to find one. Then just compare the generated md5sum of the .iso image with the published md5sum. If they do not match your download is broken.
[03:34] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: yes, the distinguished honour...
[03:34] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Shoot.
[03:34] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:34] <cobhcf> ok
[03:34] <WeedVender> question...  how do I install the libavcodec2 for mplayer?
[03:34] <h0sl3r> !fluxspace
[03:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, h0sl3r
[03:34] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: lol
[03:34] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: upgrades dont break a system, no, if done properly.
[03:34] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, that might happen. :)
[03:34] <cobhcf> what is a good place to get the ISO for AMD 64 machines
[03:35] <BlueEagle> reiki: New information to me, but then again this is only my 1st week with ubuntu.
[03:35] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: you dont upgrade with backports enabled, and such...
[03:35] <chico_> hi
[03:35] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: would you have any idea why my sound is still reasonably quiet even when the volume is turned all the way up?
[03:35] <reiki> BlueEagle, I can just unmount ~/usb-drive ? (that's how it's mounted)
[03:35] <matthew_w> Is there any way to get RealPlayer files running in Totem?
[03:35] <matthew_w> !realplayer
[03:35] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: alsamixer and tune up both master and PCM
[03:35] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: and, 5.10, as it says, comes out 05/10 or so...
[03:35] <WeedVender> how about libavcodec2?
[03:35] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: it's done already
[03:35] <matthew_w> I have w32codecs, still nogo
[03:35] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:36] <netdur> !mono
[03:36] <ubotu> netdur: What?
[03:36] <WeedVender> did you try apt-get install realplayer or what ever its called?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> reiki: That would probably work.
[03:36] <AussieBen> Initrd-tools keeps giving a segment fault whilst I try to install the base system. It breaks my install each time. :-/
[03:36] <transgress> helix player?
[03:36] <thedevilsjester> dabaR, Yeah I was wanting 5.10 for the boot splash mainly, there is no how to 'the ubuntu way' and doing it from source is why I left gentoo :p
[03:36] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Which sound chip?
[03:36] <chico_> ppl: usplash is not resizing correctly in my widescreen.. should i file a bug?
[03:36] <WeedVender> that might work. But then how would totem access the codecs?
[03:36] <reiki> BlueEagle, : device is busy... this is almost getting to be funny now
[03:36] <dabaR> WeedVender: what are you trying to do?
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: ibook g4
[03:37] <BlueEagle> reiki: You cannot be in the folder when you unmount it.
[03:37] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Oh, well then I've got no clue.
[03:37] <netdur> helix player doesn't play rm or ram, real player to use sound deamon exluseve... you better install libxine
[03:37] <WeedVender> im trying to install libavcodec2
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: lol, thank you
[03:37] <wetha> hello?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: However it's been my experience that most sound chips cut horribly whith both master and PCM turned up.
[03:37] <WeedVender> but me being a total noob, I don't know how to.
[03:37] <dabaR> wetha: hi.
[03:37] <wetha> dabaR: hi, srry bout that
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: thanks blue! ^.^d
[03:38] <wetha> dabaR: was banned for flooding
[03:38] <BlueEagle> reiki: did it help to cd ~/ before umounting?
[03:38] <dabaR> from now on, paste to paste.ubuntulinux.nl ...no, no, that was totally my bad...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: No problem. :)
[03:38] <reiki> BlueEagle, nope it's stuck :)
[03:38] <wetha> dabaR: ok cool
[03:38] <thoreauputic> wetha: just read the channel topic and use the pastebin
[03:38] <dabaR> wetha: ^
[03:38] <AussieBen> Anyone have any ideas on my initrd-tools problem?
[03:38] <WeedVender> can anyone help me?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> reiki: have you got any graphical browsers in the directory?
[03:39] <dabaR> wetha: it seems that you chowned your homne folder to root...
[03:39] <reiki> BlueEagle, no gui browsers open currently
[03:39] <dabaR> wetha: please paste that thing again to the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:39] <wetha> dabaR: ok
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: Weird... What does mount w/o arguments say?
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: Not that it should matter though.
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: also check /etc/mtab
[03:39] <reiki> BlueEagle, the "write" light appears to be on. I believe the system is picking up on that. It should NOT however, be busy at this point
[03:40] <cobhcf> blueeagle: the checksums are different, where do i get a good copy?
[03:40] <reiki> BlueEagle, mount says this, /dev/sda1 on /home/yardbird/usb-drive type msdos (rw,uid=1000)
[03:40] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: It is a good copy there, it was just an error that occured in the transfer.
[03:40] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:40] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, do you perhaps have more than one sound player active at the moment?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> reiki: how about /etc/mtab
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ?
[03:41] <reiki> BlueEagle, how do I check that? what am I looking for?
[03:41] <wetha> dabaR: dun
[03:41] <reiki> cd /etc/mtab
[03:41] <BlueEagle> reiki: cat /etc/mtab|grep sda1
[03:41] <reiki> damnit
[03:42] <dabaR> wetha: yup, sudo chown -R "wetha" /home/"wetha"
[03:42] <reiki> BlueEagle, /dev/sda1 /home/yardbird/usb-drive msdos rw,uid=1000 0 0
[03:42] <BlueEagle> odd.
[03:42] <dabaR> that will do what you need, and thats it... wetha...sorry about the ban again...
[03:42] <wetha> dabaR: to clarify, from 'sudo' or 'chown'??
[03:43] <nfinitep1astik> DonL:  how do i check?
[03:43] <dabaR> from sudo.
[03:43] <reiki> BlueEagle, I may have to pull it and just wait for the system to notice it's gone! :)
[03:43] <wetha> dabaR: hey no worries man, ty for the help!
[03:43] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, good question. Not familiar with macs
[03:43] <thoreauputic> dabaR: not really your fault - people should read the channel topic :)
[03:43] <dabaR> change to your uname, from "wetha"...off course.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, since it's idicating being active that might corrupt data, so pull a backup before unpluging it.
[03:43] <nfinitep1astik> DonL: lol, yeah, me niether....that's the problem
[03:44] <dabaR> thoreauputic: I told him explicitly to do what he did, inadvertently, off course...I meant, paste ls -l /home, and said ls -l /home/wetha
[03:44] <reiki> BlueEagle, I can't back it up. I can't access it. Trying to read a small .doc file off it didn't work
[03:44] <dylan_> how do i speed up web browsing in linux?  kinda slow...
[03:44] <dylan_> i have ADSL
[03:44] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, seems to me though that I read about someone with that problem before. The sound wouldn't stop because of feedback from the two sources. Not sure if that's your problem though
[03:44] <BlueEagle> reiki: unable to access it with the terminal too?
[03:44] <nfinitep1astik> dylan_: overclock your modem   XD
[03:44] <dabaR> dylan_: clear out your cache, stop using a router, remove your firewwall.
[03:44] <dylan_> dabaR, will that work?
[03:45] <cafuego> My modem already runs at 3.6GHz (and I patched it for HT support too)
[03:45] <BlueEagle> dylan_: which browser?
[03:45] <boman_> Call your isp. :)
[03:45] <dabaR> those are things you can do.
[03:45] <dylan_> nfinitep1astik, how do i overclock the modem?
[03:45] <reiki> BlueEagle, in terminal I can still use ls to list files
[03:45] <dylan_> BlueEagle, im using Epiphany
[03:45] <jdermer> with nautilus is there a way to make everything open in the same window
[03:45] <jdermer> instead of opening a new one for each folder
[03:45] <BlueEagle> reiki: How about cp to copy files from it?
[03:45] <DonL> jdermer, yes
[03:45] <jdermer> how
[03:45] <reiki> BlueEagle, and I notice it now has a new file called ????????.??? on it
[03:45] <dylan_> cafuego, is that safe?
[03:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: try this - in about:config search for ipv6 and disable it
[03:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, are you sure?
[03:46] <DonL> jdermer, been a while since I switched. I'll see if I can find out
[03:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yes, it is safe :)
[03:46] <jdermer> k thanx
[03:46] <bitkrom> i wish i could play bf2 in linux...windows died
[03:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, ok im gonna disable ipv6
[03:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: and you can change it back if you need to
[03:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, i set the value to True
[03:46] <dabaR> heh.
[03:46] <nfinitep1astik> dylan_: i was kidding
[03:46] <boman_> There's a tweak to firefox to speed up browsing too....
[03:47] <cobhcf> blueeagle: thanks mate, i will dl again
[03:47] <boman_> In about:config
[03:47] <dylan_> boman_, yes i know
[03:47] <boman_> http.pipelining and stuff.
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: right - you can set it back if it makes no difference
[03:47] <dylan_> boman_, do you know a way that i can get win32 files like wmv files and quicktime files to play in mozilla firefox or epiphany?
[03:47] <dabaR> the only things that can be done are what I said...
[03:47] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thanks a lot :)
[03:47] <nfinitep1astik> in VLC, i cant seem to select ALSA as the primary sound device
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no worries - hope it helps :)
[03:48] <BlueEagle> reiki: tar czRf ~/backup.tar.gz ~/usb-drive/*
[03:48] <BlueEagle> reiki: That should make a backup of all the files on the usb drive
[03:48] <BlueEagle> 1~
[03:48] <wetha> dabaR: problem solved, thanks again for your help
[03:48] <boman_> Hmm, does mplayer play quicktime and wmv?
[03:48] <wetha> and sorry for the flood yall
[03:48] <wetha> see you again
[03:49] <boman_> If so, then you can just install mplayer-firefox or whatever the package is called.
[03:49] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... how do I format it? Everything on here is from winxp that I haven't used in over 3 weeks now. can I format it so it's still readable by XP machines so I can transfer stuff from work to here?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: there is an mplayer mozilla plugin that should work on all gecko based browsers
[03:49] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, doesnt that require the whole mplayer program?  i kinda dont want it
[03:49] <boman_> Why? :/
[03:49] <nfinitep1astik> in VLC, i cant seem to select ALSA as the primary sound device, ideas?
[03:49] <dylan_> boman_, its big and i like the built in apps
[03:50] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, I am not sure how that works so I cannot answer that.
[03:50] <boman_> Hmm... big? :o
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: yes it does
[03:50] <boman_> Never even checked the size but...
[03:50] <BlueEagle> reiki: I cannot rule out that you break your usb drive if you try to format it. :)
[03:50] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, is there a way that i can fix it so i dont need the whole app?
[03:50] <reiki> BlueEagle, fair enough. I appreciate all the help getting me this far. :)  I'll keep whackin away at it
[03:50] <mustang2> Does anyone have a chaintech av710 in here by any chance..?
[03:50] <DonL> woops. x-out of the wrong place
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: the plugin isnt much good w/o the program behind it
[03:51] <locomorto> I'm using breezy currently, and I was wondering how I would get libtag 1.4? I'm not shy of compiling.
[03:51] <dabaR> johndarkhorse: I never saw you here before, and I come sometimes, usually every day. How do you think it is that I never saw you here before?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> reiki: Don't you be wanking now usb-stick and telling us about it!! :)
[03:51] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: vlc-plugin-alsa?
[03:51] <reiki> hehehehe
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oh, wait... wacking...
[03:51] <reiki> or wanking
[03:51] <reiki> :)
[03:51] <boman_> :D
[03:51] <DonL> Who was asking about changing the file system?
[03:51] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, ok....is there another program?  i dont like the mplayer one
[03:51] <thoreauputic> dylan_: another possibility (with xine) https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&id=446
[03:52] <BlueEagle> dylan_: What's not to like about mplayer? :p
[03:52] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: thanks j0
[03:52] <dylan_> BlueEagle, just personal preference i guess
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> BlueEagle: lots of things
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: the only other option i know is to d/l the vids directly and play them on whatever your favorite player is
[03:52] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: no problem
[03:52] <boman_> BlueEagle: Thinking the same thing. :D
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> terribleinterface, lack or dvd menu support
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> *of
[03:52] <BlueEagle> dylan_: Ahh well, gmplayer might not support skins. :)
[03:53] <boman_> Anyone here that runs xfce and know if it's possible to prioritize desktop bgs?
[03:53] <Gobbla> i dont think any player for linux plays wmv or quicktime media...
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: wrong
[03:54] <DonL> Gobbla, yup
[03:54] <dylan_> BlueEagle, lol well ok
[03:54] <boman_> Running twinview 1280 on my monitor and 1024 on my tv and my desktop bg is really fucked up. :P
[03:54] <Gobbla> ok I stand corrected then
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: with w32codecs, xine or mplayer work
[03:54] <Gobbla> aight
[03:55] <Gobbla> you should ignore those lousy formats though..
[03:55] <cobhcf> what is a good place to dl ubuntu?
[03:55] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: ack...it's still quiet....other ideas per chance?
[03:55] <Gobbla> www.ubuntulinux.org cobhcf?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: true, but people want them, still
[03:55] <boman_> Is it possible now to run wmv9-coded files with mplayer?
[03:55] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: why not esd?
[03:55] <dylan_> BlueEagle, ok i installed the whole mplayer-mozilla thing and the movies play sound but no video....
[03:55] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: because ALSA works with all my games
[03:56] <Gobbla> umm okay... sorry im out of ideas
[03:56] <thoreauputic> dylan_: do you have w32codecs?
[03:56] <reiki> is there a GUI for repartitioning? I may repartition this USB flash drive and format it like mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[03:56] <thoreauputic> 1codecs
[03:56] <dylan_> thoreauputic, no where do i get em?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[03:56] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:57] <thoreauputic> dylan_: hoary-extras - see bottom of ubotu's page
[03:57] <boman_> You can just apt-get w32codecs...
[03:57] <thoreauputic> boman_: if you enable hoary-extras
[03:57] <locomorto> reiki: Qtparted/Gparted
[03:57] <boman_> thoreauputic: Oh, that's true...
[03:57] <AussieBen> Anyone know how I might stop initrd-tools from segment faulting during my base install?
[03:58] <fsmw> hi guys, i got this from glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:58] <thoreauputic> dylan_: if you enable hoary-extras I suggest disabling that repo after getting what you need
[03:58] <BlueEagle> dylan_: mplayer -vo gl2 videofile
[03:58] <fsmw> i have an ati radeon video card on a dell 600m laptop
[03:58] <thoreauputic> dylan_: to avoid problems with library conflicts etc
[03:59] <malv> Anyone know of a place where people submit ideas and other people rate those ideas?
[04:00] <dazvid> malv: you could make a poll on a forum :)
[04:00] <malv> yea, I just had an idea that I think would be neat
[04:00] <AussieBen> Anyone at all able to help out? Is it a known bug or anything?
[04:00] <malv> I just don't know how willing people would be to openly share ideas in hope that someone will make it happen
[04:00] <newubuntuuser> !format
[04:00] <ubotu> newubuntuuser: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:01] <BlueEagle> reiki: partition a drive that is 256 mb?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: what did you want to know?
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> Hi there! Anyone know what I could use to format a drive?
[04:01] <reiki> BlueEagle, just thinking about wiping it very clean is all
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> IS there a shell command?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: several
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: format as what?
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> I am all ears / eyes
[04:01] <chavo> newubuntuuser, it's mkfs, depends on the type
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: It doesn't get any cleaner than mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[04:02] <reiki> ok
[04:02] <newubuntuuser> I need to format my HD, so I can start using it with ubuntu
[04:02] <DonL> Start a linux install, let it get to the point where it wipes everything, and then stop it
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: removing the partition and creating it again won't do much at all. It might not even be supported. :)
[04:02] <DonL> Oh. Just install Ubuntu then
[04:02] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: you don't need to - the installer will take care of it
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: (ie the drive might have a set and uneditable partition table that contains exactly one partition
[04:02] <BlueEagle> )
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> I'm using thge Live disk right now, and want to have the HD ready
[04:03] <Gobbla> .............
[04:03] <reiki> ok well I can't do it because "sda1 contains a mounted file system.... NO KIDDING!!!... hehehehe
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> Ahh! Okay!  Thanks! See you later... gotta go and install
[04:03] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: see above
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> :-)
[04:03] <DonL> I've used the install feature on Linux distros in the past to wipe the hard drive for people who were going to windows
[04:03] <Keizer> Sup guys
[04:04] <Keizer> Why can't my Orinoco Gold card detect ESSIDs?
[04:04] <reiki> BlueEagle, I'm gonna yank the drive out. I can't unmount it, I can't reformat it, ... and now it's making me lose my patience
[04:04] <DonL> Keizer, Orinoco Gold sounds like something to smoke
[04:04] <Keizer> DonL, It's an awesome card
[04:04] <DonL> lol
[04:04] <nfinitep1astik> can anyone help me with trying to make my sound become louder with master and pcm turned all the way up already?
[04:04] <Keizer> I have a 10.5 antenna for it.
[04:05] <cobhcf> gorilla: am downloading 5.04 now
[04:05] <Gobbla> does anybody know if they plan on doing some more ubuntu calendars, that white chick is hawt...
[04:05] <Keizer> nfinitep1astik, With headphones?
[04:05] <cobhcf> i will use nero this time to burn it to a disk
[04:05] <nfinitep1astik> Keizer: negative.....with the onboard sound....but it's very quiet and i know it can go louder
[04:05] <thoreauputic> nfinitep1astik: pcm turned up all the way will probably distort horribly - 75-80% is about right normally
[04:06] <DonL> Well, must go. Night folks
[04:06] <nfinitep1astik> thoreauputic: correct....but for explanation purposes...all the way up was easier ^.^
[04:08] <bobert> what's the hotkey to switch virtural desktops?
[04:08] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[04:08] <bobert> it's normally ctrl+fn
[04:08] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: heheh
[04:08] <Gobbla> uhm?
[04:08] <xTina> Anyone around with a (preferably fresh) install of breezy and a realplayer (either the one directly from real.com or the one out of hoary-extras) that does _not_ have UI performance issues while streaming?
[04:09] <Gobbla> haha, what did i do that was so inhumane?
[04:09] <dbernar1> Gobbla: your "white chick is hawt" comment is out of demarcations:p
[04:09] <thoreauputic> bobert: ctrl-alt-arrow
[04:09] <Gobbla> yeh, riiiiiiight....
[04:09] <bobert> thoreauputic, thanks
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: he has a point, you know
[04:10] <xTina> or alternatively, anyone with breezy willing to try it :)
[04:10] <dbernar1> but, on another point...........
[04:10] <Gobbla> whats so wrong about finding someone attractive?
[04:10] <bobert> it doesnt happen to people on IRC? :P
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: I think it was the other part that was problematic
[04:11] <jdermer> the white part ?
[04:11] <Gobbla> so im like.. a racist for not finding a woman, who happens to be black, is unattractive, or what?
[04:11] <jdermer> cause im white and i was so offended lol
[04:11] <jdermer> lol
[04:11] <dbernar1> on another note....
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: leave it - no biggie
[04:12] <dbernar1> it was just a witty comment...
[04:12] <Gobbla> no please tell me
[04:12] <Gobbla> im dying to know
[04:13] <Gobbla> jdermer: im something, not sure what yet, for finding a white chick hot and not finding a black woman hot...
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: notice that no ops appeared: as I said, not a big issue
[04:14] <jdermer> wait
[04:14] <jdermer> if ure white
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: it's OK
[04:14] <jdermer> then y would u say that the white chick is hot
[04:14] <jdermer> lol
[04:14] <Gobbla> dbernar1: you do that
[04:15] <Gobbla> I just found it a bit amusing :)
[04:15] <dbernar1> that was the intended part...
[04:15] <bobert> what packages do I need to be able to compile QT applications on Ubuntu?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> OK - this is a mild warning - if you want to debate it do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> Gobbla: jdermer #ubuntu-offtopic with that stuff, please
[04:15] <thoreauputic> yup
[04:16] <Knowledge_> okkk....been a while since I've had a problem but here goes
[04:16] <Gobbla> im done
[04:16] <dbernar1> johndarkhorse: how come I never saw you before? did you replt?
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> dbernar1: i sent you a /notice
[04:16] <jdermer> oy gevalt
[04:16] <bobert> I've installed qt3-apps-dev and qt-dev-tools, however its obviously not enough :\
[04:16] <dbernar1> I dont think I got it.
[04:16] <Knowledge_> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected...etc, and X will not start
[04:17] <dawynn> Is it possible to pull down mail from a Hotmail account into a Linux mail reader (esp. Thunderbird?)
[04:17] <chipmunk> hi
[04:17] <chipmunk> i have a problem iwth ubuntu
[04:17] <chipmunk> can someone help me
[04:17] <vedasisme> is there some sort of disc partitioning tutorial somewhere?
[04:17] <Gobbla> dbernar1: i got that
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: it is, but requires and intermediary program to do it
[04:17] <dawynn> chipmunk -- can you be more specific?
[04:17] <chipmunk> im from Philippines
[04:18] <chipmunk> my porblem is....
[04:18] <Gobbla> it was the "hes got a point" that got me thinking, but now, lets leave it then.
[04:18] <dawynn> johndarkhorse -- what do you mean "intermediary program"?
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: hotmail is a pop access only mail system
[04:18] <chipmunk> with i install the driver for my NIVIDIA VIdeo card, the system will hang =( how can i fix this?
[04:18] <Knowledge_> anyone know what I could do about me little problem?
[04:19] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: so you need 'hotpops' or some other pop gathering mail program, so you can point your pop3 client at IT
[04:19] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: thats all you are going to tell us about the issue?^
[04:19] <dawynn> chipmunk -- are you installing the ubuntu nvidia drivers or the drivers from the nvidia site?
[04:19] <nfinitep1astik> can anyone help me with trying to make my sound become louder with master and pcm turned all the way up already?
[04:19] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: what more can I tell you?
[04:19] <vedasisme> is there some sort of disc partitioning tutorial somewhere?
[04:19] <chipmunk> ubuntu nvidia drivers
[04:19] <pepperpot> I lost my scroll wheel functionality, and I check xorg.conf to make sure I have Options "Buttons" "7" and zaxismapping
[04:19] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: has it ever worked on this system. What have you tried. what did you do to do this if it had worked...
[04:19] <chipmunk> when i was using mandriva linux yesterday also it also hang
[04:20] <johndarkhorse> vedasisme: use qtparted or gparted. it's pretty self-explanatory
[04:20] <chipmunk> when i was using mandriva linux yesterday also it also hang when i installed the vidoe card driver
[04:20] <thoreauputic> vedasisme: have you tried googling " linux partitioning howto" ?
[04:20] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: yeap, worked this morning, and the past 3 months that I've had Ubuntu installed, now...just today the computer started acting funny, and I restarted...and it gave me that problem
[04:21] <thoreauputic> vedasisme: there is a lot of info on partitoning out there
[04:21] <Keizer> Has anyone gotten NetworkManager to work in the Breezey version of Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: the only thing I could think of is maybe the auto update...one of them was a linux kernel image
[04:21] <dawynn> chipmunk -- see the note on the nvidia-glx package.  (Make sure you have nvidia-glx installed)  You need to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:21] <vedasisme> ok
[04:21] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: is this a laptop, is that what a touchpad is, the mouse thing on laptops?
[04:21] <cevizoglu> after reading the realplayer install instructions on the restricted formats wiki, I still am not sure how to make it work.  where are the swf plugins?
[04:21] <Knowledge_> dbernar1 yeah
[04:21] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: and X never starts?
[04:22] <Knowledge_> dbernar1 Nope, that's all it gives me for an error
[04:22] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: how can you know your touchpad/mouse does not work if you never get to X.
[04:22] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: in the plugins directory of the install directory iirc
[04:22] <Knowledge_> says "preinit failed for input device"
[04:22] <chipmunk> dawynn-- yes i enabled it and it went hang that s why i re installed the whole Ubuntu Breedgy now
[04:22] <funkyHat> what apache module is needed for generating tabbed sections in web pages? :S (the kind you get in the mambo administration module, if anyone's familiar with that)
[04:23] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: what do you have in your sources.list, paste to paste.ubuntulinux.nl .
[04:23] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: only what's on the ubuntuguide site, copied and pasted.
[04:23] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: paste a URL for me to see.
[04:23] <dbernar1> s/paste/post
[04:24] <Knowledge_> http://www.ubuntuguide.com
[04:24] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: that would be in the diretory named RealPlayer (wherever you installed it)
[04:24] <dawynn> chipmunk -- when it "hangs", can you even ctrl-alt-f2 into a separate virtual terminal?
[04:24] <dbernar1> nono, there are several sources.lists there, Knowledge_ .
[04:24] <dbernar1> +its.org
[04:24] <Knowledge_> .org* sorry, and I only know of one
[04:24] <Knowledge_> yeah
[04:25] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: you are not very knowledgeable about how to use backports.
[04:25] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: never said I was
[04:25] <ubuntu> Hello there!  Dumb Newbie question - How do I access my WINxp drives with ubunntu? It doesnt seem to see them
[04:25] <dbernar1> that is why I told you you are not.
[04:26] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: having backports uncommented and having an automatic upgrade set up is like, calling to get your system borked.
[04:26] <chipmunk> dawynn -- ahm, i didnt tried it yet cos this is a new installation of Ubuntu due to i reformated it because it keeps hang in the first one when i installed the NVIDIA Video Driver and enabled it =(
[04:26] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: Knowledge_ before this escalates, stop it please
[04:26] <dbernar1> Now...what could be done...
[04:26] <johndarkhorse> !tell ubuntu about ntfs
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> ubuntu: ubotu sent you a msg, read it please
[04:27] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: it was not intended as an offense...
[04:27] <dbernar1> just as a statement of facts.
[04:28] <dbernar1> thoreauputic: read a little from the link in ubotu's ask factoid...
[04:28] <bz0b> hey guys
[04:28] <chipmunk> dawynn-- Its like this, the whole desktop freezed but the desktop os still visible but hang or freezed =(
[04:28] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: just be a bit more sensitive - no need to imply others are clueless
[04:28] <dbernar1> No, I just told him what the issue is...
[04:28] <dawynn> chipmunk: I'm sorry I don't know.  Perhaps your card is newer than the driver is ready for?
[04:28] <dbernar1> anyhow, ok, Ill be nicer next time:)
[04:28] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: I'm not going to debate the point with you
[04:29] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: OK :)
[04:29] <dbernar1> thoreauputic: read that URL a little though, serious, it is a very cool read.
[04:29] <chipmunk> dawynn -- i see, but my card is old =( its Geforce 2 64mb NVIDIA. thats why im so confused..i guessed i need to configure something after installation in order it not to hang? =(
[04:29] <dawynn> johndarkhorse: can you point me to a website with hotpops or similar software?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: I have :)
[04:30] <dbernar1> ok. good.
[04:30] <dbernar1> I am refering to the part where it says...how sometimes people that you talk to sound rude, and no manners...but, really, they are just stating fact, with no red tape...
[04:30] <AussieBen> I need help with an Ubuntu install which buggering up. Any takers?
[04:31] <dawynn> chipmunk: I'm sorry I don't know.  The switch to the nvidia packages worked very well for me.  Anyone else have more experience dealing with Nvidia cards?
[04:31] <sofia> hi have a problem with vhcs
[04:31] <sofia> i cant get it to create users
[04:31] <thoreauputic> yeah, I follow you: but remember that a lot of people in here are *very* new and not accustomed to the "hacker" way of doing things  :)
[04:31] <chipmunk> dawynn -- i see, but my card is old =( its Geforce 2 64mb NVIDIA. thats why im so confused..i guessed i need to configure something after installation in order it not to hang? Help me=(  Cos i love Ubuntu and Im going to endrose this in my fellow friends here in the Philippines who have internet cafes becuase I too is going to use this in my Internet cafe cos its very very nice OS
[04:32] <ubuntu> ubotu - thanks for the help - the instructions for mounting the ntfs partitions worked great
[04:32] <ubotu> ubuntu: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:32] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: search http://sourceforge.net
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntu about ubotu
[04:32] <cevizoglu> anyone know what kind of server setup amazon uses?
[04:32] <sofia> someone knows how to use vhcs
[04:32] <chipmunk> not like windows which has many holes and most here in the Philippines cant afford to buy
[04:33] <dbernar1> !tell ubuntu about ask the bot
[04:33] <cevizoglu> yes, I know my question is off-topic unless they use ubuntu, but they might ;)
[04:33] <hydrogen> how can I change the order in which my sound cards get detected?
[04:33] <dbernar1> hydrogen: perhaps in the bios
[04:34] <hydrogen> dbernar1: no.. Its a linux setting... I know cause I've modified in other distros... just not sure how to modify here
[04:34] <chipmunk> hu hu hu T_T
[04:34] <hydrogen> I need to pass options to alsa module
[04:34] <dbernar1> there is no vhcs package, that sofia was talking about.
[04:34] <nickrud> something very strange has just happened: I've completely lost my grub directory under boot :(
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> cevizoglu: you may google "what's that server running" and start your quest
[04:35] <dbernar1> nickrud: what did you do to it?
[04:36] <nickrud> dbernar1, an update in breezy. I'd put it off for a while.
[04:36] <dbernar1> :P
[04:36] <nickrud> heh
[04:36] <dbernar1> is the best I can do anyhow... hope that helps...
[04:37] <nickrud> that'll teach me to keep my backups up to date
[04:37] <jsubl2> !find xlib.h
[04:37] <pr1r> hey can someone help me figure out why rythymbox isnt working.,.. i just installed  ubuntu today so im kinda new
[04:38] <Madpilot> pr1r: define "isn't working" for us?
[04:38] <IceDC571> pr1r have you tried typing rhythmbox in the terminal?
[04:38] <IceDC571> tell us what errors you get from there
[04:38] <pr1r> definitely not
[04:38] <IceDC571> most likely its a dependency error.. hopefully
[04:39] <pr1r> gst-register
[04:39] <IceDC571> oh wait.. rhythmbox.. nevermind, that comes with gnome
[04:39] <IceDC571> im stupid
[04:39] <nickrud> could a grub expert tell me that apt-get install --reinstall grub will work, as long as I build my menu.lst by hand correctly?
[04:39] <dbernar1> I had that one. the error.
[04:39] <pr1r> yeah i just installed on laptop
[04:39] <Madpilot> IceDC571: was about to point that out to you... ;)
[04:39] <pr1r> friend recommended this
[04:39] <Keizer> Why would my Orinoco Gold card not be able to see an AP?
[04:39] <Madpilot> pr1r: so what isn't working?
[04:39] <pr1r> never even looked at lin ux before
[04:39] <pr1r> most of the programs
[04:39] <Keizer> In Windows it finds APs no problem
[04:39] <dbernar1> pr1r: open a terminal, know how?
[04:40] <pr1r> they all usually end up saying
[04:40] <Keizer> On Linux I can't get it to find anything.
[04:40] <IceDC571> hah.. just tell us what isnt working
[04:40] <pr1r> did you run gst-register
[04:40] <pr1r> i know how to ope terminal
[04:40] <pr1r> terminal is open
[04:40] <dbernar1> gst-register-0.8 and enter, are likely to fix your issue.
[04:40] <pr1r> ty
[04:40] <pr1r> ill try
[04:41] <dbernar1> tm when it works:)
[04:41] <pr1r> ok its adding a bunch of stuff
[04:41] <dazvid> pr1r: Whats the exact problem?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> pr1r: if you wnat to play mp3 with rhythmbox install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:41] <pr1r> says loaded plugins wity # features
[04:41] <dbernar1> ok, now you likely wont get that same error, go test.
[04:41] <pr1r> ok
[04:42] <pr1r> wow
[04:42] <pr1r> thank you
[04:42] <pr1r> soooo much
[04:42] <paxmaster> is there a way to split a tar file in to chucks I have a tar about 20 GB and i want break it to peace so it will fit to dvd
[04:42] <dbernar1> hehe, no doubt, thats easy, stay for a while you will set up a lot with help from #ubuntu.
[04:42] <pr1r> im definitely diggin this os
[04:42] <dbernar1> It is pretty, I think.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> !tell pr1r about docs
[04:43] <felix_> how do you install beep meda player
[04:43] <felix_> media
[04:43] <pr1r> docs?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> pr1r: the url ubotu sent you will help too
[04:43] <felix_> how do you install bmp?
[04:43] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with mac experience help me with my alsa issue?
[04:43] <franktr> felix_: use apt-get
[04:43] <AussieBen> Would someone please help me with an Ubuntu installatio that keeps segment faulting?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> pr1r: it's an index of the wiki help
[04:44] <pr1r> oh thanks
[04:44] <pr1r> checkin it out ow
[04:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:44] <felix_> franktr: yo dude, i dunno how to get it, i know apt-get gets programs, but if anyone has bmp tell me how they got it
[04:44] <pr1r> the tattoo shbop i work at is kinda busy right now... im waiting on someone to leave so i can unplug them from the router
[04:44] <franktr> mitch to be honest i dont know im here to make fun of you
[04:44] <pr1r> so things are loading a bit slow
[04:44] <paxmaster> anyone out there who could give me a hand
[04:44] <franktr> anyone know how to get bmp on ubuntu?
[04:45] <dabaRCo> man tar?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !info beep-media-player
[04:45] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 893 kB, Installed size: 3712 kB
[04:45] <franktr> im not sure whether ubuntu is like debian where they hate mp3 because of the proprietary crap
[04:45] <thoreauputic> franktr: you need the universe repo
[04:45] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with mac experience help me with my alsa issue?
[04:45] <felix_> !info me
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !tell franktr about mp3
[04:45] <dabaRCo> franktr: it is not about hate...
[04:45] <franktr> thoreauputic: got a wiki paqge?
[04:46] <nickrud> franktr, it's not hate, it's self protection
[04:46] <franktr> dabaRCo: i choser the word because its easier to use hehe
[04:46] <lakcaj> Does anyone know why alsaconf is not in alsa-utils?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> franktr: just gave you the URL through ubotu
[04:46] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: just ask your question - and it's an ubuntu-ppc problem, not a mac problem per se
[04:46] <thoreauputic> lakcaj: it apparently "caused more problems than it solved"
[04:46] <nickrud> so, no grub experts. Back to lilo for a bit, I guess
[04:46] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: thanks j0, i'll try
[04:47] <dabaRCo> franktr: mp3 support is not installed by default, and is in universe, where it belongs. https://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:47] <franktr> nickrud:
[04:47] <franktr> whats up
[04:47] <nickrud> what's up, is setting myself up on an unstable platform, and now I gotta deal with it :)
[04:48] <franktr> ok what problem do you have with grub'
[04:48] <nfinitep1astik> well, i've installed alsa and vlc correctly but my sound plays quietly through my speakers no matter if i keep it at 80% at master and pcm
[04:48] <setite-SFD> !uninstall
[04:48] <ubotu> setite-SFD: No idea
[04:48] <setite-SFD> grrr
[04:48] <nickrud> I lost it all.
[04:49] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: i get the same problem until I unplug and plugin the cable in again, but turn the sound down first!!!
[04:49] <nickrud> :)
[04:49] <^cyber_junkie^> hi all
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: you've only lost grub
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: your stuff is still there
[04:49] <franktr> just boot to a restore cd
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: i had a HD crater on me and lost 26gb of stuff LOST
[04:49] <franktr> or use the live cd and chroot to your root drive
[04:49] <^cyber_junkie^> i got the Ubuntu ISO from the Ubuntu website.... but the checksums are different.. does this happen all the time?
[04:49] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: booting with the cable plugged in somehow makes it quieter than it would otherwise be
[04:49] <franktr> re run grub
[04:49] <Madpilot> back later, all.
[04:49] <zorba64> nickrud: sud grub-install /dev/hd?
[04:49] <BlankB> what app should I use to capture video as mpeg4?
[04:50] <zorba64> sud=sudo
[04:50] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, I know, I was in the midst of reorganizing my kernels, and took a standard look at /boot, and, low and behold, there was no grub directory
[04:50] <paxmaster> is there a way to split a tar file in to chucks I have a tar about 20 GB and i want break it to peace so it will fit to dvd
[04:50] <k-0tik> does anyone knwo if you can compile C on ubuntu when its for windows and suses windows.h
[04:50] <k-0tik> ?
[04:50] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: actually, just let me thank you for trying to helpme......but im trying to play it through my ibook speakers
[04:50] <lakcaj> thoreauputic, thanks.  I'm currently on a debian sarge machine, where alasconf is available.  Quite often, and ubuntu user will ask for help in #debian, or I will try to help in here.  For me, alsaconf has always worked, so I'm wondering, how is someone supposed to configure audio in ubuntu?
[04:50] <nickrud> reinstalling got me back /boot/grub/<some files>, but no menu.lst
[04:50] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: don't know about that one
[04:51] <nickrud> didn't really expect it :)
[04:51] <^cyber_junkie^> this is the second i d/loaded today.. and the checksums are different
[04:51] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: lol...then thank you for your time
[04:51] <^cyber_junkie^> i tried both 5.04 and 5.10
[04:51] <AussieBen> During 'Install the base system' I get 'Unable to install initrd-tools' and the installation fails. Can anyone help me out?
[04:51] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: I might try stopping and starting the sound manager
[04:51] <delltony> question how do you get /dev/sequencer to work i tried doing MAKEDEV sequencer but it didn't work any ideas
[04:51] <dabaRCo> ^cyber_junkie^: what method do you use for download, http?
[04:52] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: as mentioned, you can rebuild your menu.lst
[04:52] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: may i ask how about going about that?
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> dabarco: yeah, dloaded from the website
[04:52] <dabaRCo> ^cyber_junkie^: use torrent.
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> dabarco: is it any differnt using torrent?
[04:52] <dabaRCo> cyphase: yes, no mismatches.
[04:52] <pr1r> torrents are the shit
[04:52] <dabaRCo> cyphase: and, much faster.
[04:52] <pr1r> yes
[04:52] <zorba64> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2066 ... copy and use/adjust to suit
[04:52] <pr1r> so much better
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> hmm, ok
[04:53] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, yes. My question is, does apt-get install --reinstall get me everything I need except for menu.lst, and ....
[04:53] <^cyber_junkie^> also the check sum thing - anything specific to check
[04:53] <D1> does anyone have a STANDALONE scanner they use in ubuntu?
[04:53] <vladuz976> anybody know how to copy dvds on harddrive?
[04:53] <felix_> what do i do after i un comment in universe?
[04:53] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, ty, you've saved me a bit of work
[04:53] <setite-SFD> is there something on the wiki about uninstalling ubuntu
[04:53] <D1> do apt-get update
[04:53] <franktr> yea thats the comman
[04:54] <dabaRCo> setite-SFD: yea.
[04:54] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: not sure, I've never needed to do it, and it might not help, but it's worth a try
[04:54] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, so, can you use some 10,000 rpm scsi 9.1GB drives :)
[04:54] <franktr> im at his house helping him. i personally dont use ubuntu/debian but im an avid arch linux user
[04:54] <funkyHat> setite-SFD, what do you want to install instead?
[04:54] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: you may just be able to kill the process and run it again
[04:54] <setite-SFD> im not sure what yet... but i want to allocate less space
[04:54] <^cyber_junkie^> what abotu wireless  and my audio card will it work on ubuntu?
[04:54] <setite-SFD> ive allocated 60 gigs... it doesnt need that
[04:55] <pr1r> ok i got another question
[04:55] <setite-SFD> ^cyber_junkie^ - it may work... it may not... which do you have
[04:55] <pr1r> anti-virus program and spyware/malware program like adaware
[04:55] <pr1r> where do i go
[04:55] <pr1r> what do i get
[04:55] <pr1r> and i also heard of something called wine
[04:56] <pr1r> can i get wine and then use webroot?
[04:56] <^cyber_junkie^> setite: on my desktop - its integrated into my K8v motherboard
[04:56] <dabaRCo> pr1r: you jsut install programss from official repositories, and there is no viruses.
[04:56] <Bac9> anyone have experiance with gdm, specifically how to get a user list into it and how to get the userlist to show users?
[04:56] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: thanks....but it didn't seem to work
[04:56] <^cyber_junkie^> setite: been a while since i messed around with that junk
[04:56] <pr1r> ok... ty
[04:56] <felix_> I still cannot apt-get bmp
[04:57] <^cyber_junkie^> what about on my Dell inspiron 700m
[04:57] <dabaRCo> felix_: well, what package manager are you using?
[04:57] <franktr> dabaRCo: hes using apt-get obviously. he uncommented univser
[04:57] <franktr> apt-get update
[04:57] <franktr> and still cannot find bmp
[04:58] <felix_> wut he said
[04:58] <dabaRCo> Bac9: ya, I do. you want a list of possible users, and pictures for their faces instead the question marks?
[04:58] <nickrud> felix_, did you try beep-media-player?
[04:58] <felix_> eys
[04:58] <felix_> thats what i tried first
[04:58] <dabaRCo> aptitude search beep.
[04:59] <^cyber_junkie^> will ubuntu be compatible with my dell inspiron 700m laptop?
[04:59] <Bac9> dabaRCo: pictures I don't care about, but a list of possible users I want
[04:59] <nickrud> felix_, if your sources are right, and you've done an aptitude update, that should be right
[05:00] <dabaRCo> its called a browser. in a terminal(cause I dont use gnome-panel any more...) type in sudo gdmconfig and then go to the graphical greeter tab, and set the happy gnome with browser. Bac9 in gnome-panel, I think its under System>Admin>Login Screen Setup.
[05:00] <nickrud> what's the current pastebin sources these days?
[05:01] <franktr> pastebin.com .....
[05:01] <zorba64> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:01] <felix_> nickrud, even wth i cannot find
[05:01] <Bac9> dabaRCo: does the standard greater have the browser?
[05:01] <nfinitep1astik> anyone have ppc experience that could help me with my alsa issue?
[05:01] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: fwiw, I do get the same problem when I boot with my headphones plugged in.  unplugging and plugging them in again fixes the problem
[05:01] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I tried graphical greeter and some themes do have browser but it has no users in it
[05:02] <franktr> its not finding beep-media-player. at all
[05:02] <dabaRCo> what? the standard browser is the command line, I think...
[05:02] <AussieBen> And on the fith try, Gentoo simply decides not to error on initrd-tools.
[05:02] <dabaRCo> standard greeter...
[05:02] <AussieBen> How odd.
[05:02] <Bac9> dabaRCo: it's called gdmlogin
[05:03] <dabaRCo> the thing that comes up when you boot, Bac9 ?
[05:03] <lythia> I am having trouble mounting my other hard drive in ubuntu (120 gig ntfs)
[05:03] <nickrud> felix_, someone kindly pointed out that http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 is what your /etc/sources.list should look like; try that
[05:03] <Bac9> dabaRCo: in any case I don't really care which one I use as long as there's a user list with _actual_ users
[05:03] <yonkeltron> is it safe to install the skype deb on ubuntu or should i just use the tarball?
[05:03] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I tried both gdmlogin and gdmgreeter
[05:03] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: have you checked and updated your fstab?
[05:03] <dabaRCo> how do you try those, though?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> !tell yonkeltron about skype
[05:04] <snorks> !fstab
[05:04] <ubotu> snorks: I don't know
[05:04] <Bac9> dabaRCo: Greeter= parameter in gdm.conf
[05:04] <dabaRCo> Bac9: you played with that already?
[05:04] <lythia> nfiniteplastik yes, and when I tried to mount it, it said it was already mounted or busy.  I tried umount on it but it said it was not mounted :(
[05:05] <Bac9> dabaRCo: yeah, kinda, but can't get a user list at all in gdmlogin and in gdmgreeter the themes with userlist just bring up an empty list
[05:05] <zorba64> lythia: what does df show?
[05:05] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: does your bios correctly read your hdd?
[05:05] <dabaRCo> Bac9: did you back up the initial file?
[05:06] <zorba64> lythia: sudo modprobe ntfs might help also
[05:06] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I've not erased anything, just comented out what was there, so I kinda have the original
[05:06] <lythia> nfiniteplastik yes, and it posts and is in the device manager
[05:07] <dabaRCo> Bac9: well, what I would do, is restore the original. Then, I would set up the graphical greeter to happy gnome with browser, and that would give me what I understand you want./
[05:07] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: how do you have your hdd set to read? lba?
[05:07] <lythia> zorba64 df?
[05:07] <dabaRCo> you two, lythia, and nfinitep1astik, did you get the msg from ubotu?
[05:08] <felix_> bmp, thanks
[05:08] <lythia> dabaRCo yes
[05:08] <felix_> it worked hehe
[05:08] <nfinitep1astik> dabaRCo: i did not
[05:08] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I can set up "happy gnome with browser" but the browser list is empty
[05:08] <herbi> hi
[05:08] <herbi> a mate of mine just did an apt-get upgrade, and says he cant connect to the internet now
[05:08] <Bac9> dabaRCo: if I allow all users on the system to be there then it only finds two system users
[05:09] <herbi> any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: it doesn't find any users above uid1000
[05:09] <dabaRCo> Bac9: well, that is strange. its just worked here before.
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> hey guys .. can k3b burn bin/cue files ?
[05:09] <Fonzi> hi
[05:09] <Fonzi> i just installed ubuntu
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: and everyone in #gnome on irc.gnome.org is sleeping
[05:09] <dabaRCo> herbi: yes, how are you communicating with him?
[05:09] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: you need the bchunk program I think
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: any advice?
[05:09] <dabaRCo> Bac9: no, not really...
[05:09] <thoreauputic> !info bchunk
[05:09] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[05:10] <Fonzi> can anyone help me figure out how to mount my second hard drive?
[05:10] <herbi> dabaR, phone
[05:10] <vader1102> Fonzi, is it an NTFS drive?
[05:10] <dabaR> herbi: well...
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> thanks thoreauputic
[05:10] <Fonzi> yes
[05:11] <vader1102> not supported from what I understand
[05:11] <Bac9> dabaRCo: know any place that I can get advice from?
[05:11] <chubbyman25> linux cannot mount NTFS drives
[05:11] <lythia> yay thank you
[05:11] <herbi> dabaR, ive been using debian for a long time, so im sure i can help him figure it out, i just thought someone mightve run into similar problems
[05:11] <nfinitep1astik> chubbyman25: yes it can
[05:11] <{GuNNeR}> is anyone here running amd64 version of ubuntu?
[05:11] <lythia> chubbyman25 well it just did my ntfs one
[05:11] <thoreauputic> chubbyman25: erm - yes it can
[05:11] <chubbyman25> really?
[05:11] <chubbyman25> ok
[05:11] <vader1102> {GuNNeR},  not I
[05:11] <zorba64> chubbyman25: it can so
[05:11] <Fonzi> hmm..i got it mounted as read only but i cant make it read/write
[05:12] <chubbyman25> maybe it just cant on mine cuz im using a ppc architecture
[05:12] <dabaR> herbi: no, I have not. I know how to trouble shoot Internet connections, so ask me if you want.
[05:12] <zorba64> Fonzi: yep...that is all you will get
[05:12] <nfinitep1astik> writing to an ntfs partition is still experimental
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Fonzi: write to NTFS is not supported
[05:12] <vader1102> Fonzi, sam here but I am working on getting it to read/write
[05:12] <zorba64> Fonzi: writing to ntfs will prob hose your data
[05:12] <str8edge> chubbyman25: depending on the driver, it is either read-only (most common) or read-write ( uses the ntfs.sys driver, highly experimental)
[05:12] <{GuNNeR}> vader: ah - yea Ipersonally don't want to use amd64 version but unfortunately the only wireless drivers I can get to run in ndiswrapper are the 64 bit, the 32 bit won't work in 32 bit mode
[05:12] <chubbyman25> ah
[05:12] <zcat[1] > captive works, but it takes a little setting up.
[05:13] <Fonzi> zorba: ok..thanks..i was just trying to give my user access and it kept saying it couldn't change the properties because it's a read only drive
[05:13] <vader1102> {GuNNeR},  I understand
[05:13] <{GuNNeR}> cursed broadcom
[05:13] <zcat[1] > s/little/lot
[05:13] <str8edge> chubbyman25: i have used the ntfs.sys method for read write access with hoary. if you don't follow the instructions properly, it _WILL_ hose your data.
[05:13] <Bac9> can someone help me get some users in the gdm browser? kdm has a userlist with correct users
[05:14] <zcat[1] > Fonzi: to give non-root users access you need different mount options.. not r/w access..
[05:14] <chubbyman25> i do have a question on running WineCVS...it's giving me an annoying error when i go to install it, it says there's an error in CVS checkout
[05:14] <chubbyman25> --------- Error log - file /root/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/ErrorLog : ---------/root/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 736: cvs: command not found
[05:14] <str8edge> chubbyman25: I can't help, no need to run windows binaries on linux.
[05:14] <Fonzi> zcat: well i jusat went into the "disks" app under system/administration and used the gui to mount the drive
[05:15] <nfinitep1astik> anyone have ppc experience that could help me with my alsa issue?
[05:15] <lythia> nfiniteplastik and dabarco:  thanks for your help - it was hdc5 and I was just doing hdc
[05:15] <chubbyman25> ok...i was running on a ppc that's why i wanted to do it
[05:15] <chipmunk> wa
[05:15] <chipmunk> my totem player wont open, y is this so?
[05:15] <dabaR> lythia: that script is actually good.
[05:16] <lenoxmo> someone have an scaner SNAPSCAN E10
[05:16] <lenoxmo> 
[05:16] <lythia> dabarco very good :D
[05:16] <vanberge> anybody know... is that comprehensive development tool called "eclipse" ?
[05:16] <SlicerDicer-> can somebody look at what the latest version of mythtv is?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: try typing totem in a terminal and see if it gives errors
[05:16] <chipmunk> oh
[05:16] <chipmunk>  ok ok
[05:16] <chipmunk> il try
[05:17] <lenoxmo> SOMEBODY HAVE AN SNANNER?
[05:17] <lenoxmo> :'(
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Any plans for a Ebuntu? :-)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> lenoxmo: don't shout, and please be patient
[05:17] <chipmunk> this is what goes out...
[05:17] <chipmunk> chipmunk il try
[05:17] <chipmunk> lenoxmo SOMEBODY HAVE AN SNANNER?
[05:17] <chipmunk> * DaSkreech (n=Me@208.138.41.132) has joined #ubuntu
[05:18] <dabaRCo> DaSkreech: whats taht?
[05:18] <lenoxmo> oh im sorry :(
[05:18] <chipmunk> ops
[05:18] <chipmunk> sorry
[05:18] <chipmunk> wait...
[05:18] <lenoxmo> chipmunk
[05:18] <chipmunk> hipmunk@WORKGROUP:~$ totem
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail-gnome' which is needed to make this application accessible
[05:18] <chipmunk> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[05:18] <DaSkreech> chipmunk: Huh?
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:18] <tritium> chipmunk, don't paste
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:18] <chipmunk> Segmentation fault
[05:18] <SlicerDicer-> ouch spam.....
[05:18] <SlicerDicer-> no no no
[05:18] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: please stop using enter all the time - it spams the channel
[05:18] <chipmunk> ops! hahahaha. soryy
[05:18] <chipmunk> sory admin
[05:19] <dabaR> chipmunk: in a terminal, please type in sudo killall totem && rm ~/.totem* && totem
[05:19] <chipmunk> ok il try
[05:19] <chipmunk> it said no process killed
[05:19] <SlicerDicer-> can somebody look at what the latest version of mythtv please :)
[05:19] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: and don't paste your errors here - read the channel topic
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !paste
[05:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:20] <tritium> SlicerDicer-, what do you mean/
[05:20] <tritium> ?
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok sorry
[05:20] <dabaR> DaSkreech: what is ebuntu?
[05:20] <lenoxmo> thoreauputic can u help me?
[05:20] <nfinitep1astik> can someone with ibook hardware experience help me with an alsa issue?
[05:20] <dabaR> chipmunk: ya, damn, bad idea.
[05:20] <tritium> SlicerDicer-, 0.18.1 in breezy
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok
[05:20] <dabaR> chipmunk: in a terminal, please type in rm ~/.totem* && totem
[05:20] <chipmunk> any other idea sir?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> dabaR: Kubuntu with E?
[05:20] <SlicerDicer-> tritium, thanks
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok ok il try
[05:20] <SlicerDicer-> thats all I needed to know
[05:20] <dabaR> DaSkreech: Enlightenment, I suppose...
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Yup yup
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !tell lenoxmo about ask
[05:21] <vader1102> nfinitep1astik, I use an IMAC @ work with Ubuntu but that is there and I am here
[05:21] <chipmunk> !paste
[05:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:21] <Fonzi> does ubuntu come with a default root password cause i dont remember it asking me for one
[05:21] <lenoxmo> someone have an scanner snapscan e10??
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Spent quite a months getting people hooked on Ubuntu
[05:21] <chipmunk> ops
[05:21] <vanberge> Fonzi, no... use sudo
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Spent last week getting people hooked on ELive
[05:21] <lenoxmo> i want to install it but with apt ,can i make it?
[05:21] <vanberge> then just type your user passwd
[05:21] <dabaR> nfinitep1astik: what is the issue, though...
[05:21] <lenoxmo> i know nothing!
[05:21] <nfinitep1astik> vader1102: well, if you dont mind, i'll look you up next time in caseyou are at work ^-^
[05:21] <thoreauputic> lenoxmo: you won't get any answers unless you make your questions better
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[07:33] (Ice9/#ubuntu) dabarco - yes please
[07:33] (hondje/#ubuntu) Madeye: No
[07:33] (ubuntu/#ubuntu)  can someone point me to a howto on setting up a all-in-one scanner... it is a HP R-40...I am running breezy preview...
[07:33] (shadeofgrey/#ubuntu) okay.  whas the procedure for installing .ttf fonts in ubuntu?
[07:33] (shadeofgrey/#ubuntu) is that somethingexplained at www.ubuntuguide.org?
[07:33] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) shadeofgrey: type fonts:/// in nautilus, dump them in
[07:33] <hondje> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:33] <hondje> thoreauputic: oooooh, sexy
[07:33] <Madpilot> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:34] <hondje> thoreauputic: not global though, is it?
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: sudo aptitude install ez-ipupdate it is in universe, you may haev to ask ubotu about repos
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hondje: not sure on that
[07:34] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: so, this happens only in vlc player, while playing .avi files. and mp3's play fine?
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> p.s. - by the way -does anybody know the person that built ubuntuguide.org?  ....some of its content is horrendously dated
[07:34] <Ice9> I've got the repos
[07:34] <hondje> the important thing is we don't have to use XFS anymore
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: also, create a dyndns account, it takes like 30 minutes all together.
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hondje: probably not since it's done as a user
[07:34] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[07:34] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:34] <darknature> how do you change the look of icons?
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: dyndns.org.
[07:35] <Ice9> dabarco - got one of those already
[07:35] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: actually,i dont know...i dont have mp3s to try
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> what does msttcorefonts do?
[07:35] <azazel_ubuntu> is there a way to get rhythmbox to rescan your library for changes? or do you have to remove all music, and re-add it all again?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the new FAQ guide is coming with Breezy
[07:35] <hondje> shadeofgrey: installs a bunch of MS .ttf fonts
[07:35] <hondje> shadeofgrey: like arial, TNR, all those
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> is that really true you can't offer any guides but the offical ubuntu guide... https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> okay.
[07:35] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: letme copy over a few
[07:35] <hondje> and comic sans is NOT A FONT
[07:35] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: just download a test.mp3 from google :)
[07:35] <dabaRCo> Ice9: no way? and a domain name?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: grabs fonts from the net, basically (or local directories)
[07:36] <Madpilot> hondje: bancomicsans.org, I think...
[07:36] <miko77> what player do i use to play mp3's?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> !tell miko77 about mp3
[07:36] <Ice9> dabarco - yes, I have a domain
[07:36] <Madpilot> !tell miko77 about mp3
[07:36] <robotgeek> miko77: rhythmbox, or beep-media-player!
[07:36] <edilooks> hi dabarco its me chipmunk with my cousins nickname here =>) this is the ubuntu  hedgehog now tht u have told me =)
[07:36] <robotgeek> !tell me about mp3
[07:36] <shadeofgrey> more importantly -- i JUST updated to breezy - milestone4...  when the final versio  is released in midoctober, does that mean ill have to completely reinstall and wipe out the old partition?  or will i be able to just update the core components?
[07:36] <dabaRCo> Ice9: great, the ez-ipupdate installed?
[07:36] <Ice9> dabarco - yes
[07:36] <hondje> http://bancomicsans.com/home.html
[07:36] <dabaRCo> edilooks: hi. good stuff.
[07:37] <hondje> yay!
[07:37] <Tidus> i have a question.  how the heck do i install the nomachine NX client?  it's not in any ubuntu apt repository that i know of, and the source built version won't even run
[07:37] <edilooks> ya =) very nice =)
[07:37] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the latter
[07:37] <dabaRCo> edilooks: anything that you need set up?
[07:38] <edilooks> dabarco its me chipmunk, try to surf and play www.miniclip.com if you have a fix there. please help friend cos there is no so called plug-in =(
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Tidus: most people use the one from the noMachine site (non-free, but works fine)
[07:38] <edilooks> its shockwave player and java thingy something
[07:38] <edilooks> i got problems with these stuff friend =(
[07:38] <Tidus> thoreauputic: it keeps giving me a weird error that libstdc++6 isn't installed, even when it is
[07:38] <dabaRCo> edilooks: sudo aptitude install mozilla-flashplayer
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Tidus: also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:39] <dabaRCo> Ice9: paste your ifconfig output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:39] <Tidus> thoreauputic: i'm just looking into the client.
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Tidus: seveas has made debs for us
[07:39] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: actually, i needed to "copy" over a few from my "backup" drive
[07:39] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, i just wanted to see if this was a specific vlc sound issue, or a sound issue in general
[07:39] <shadeofgrey> oh...  excellent.  also -- is there somebody on the ubuntu team that specializes in getting ubuntu up to acceptable assistive technology status -- I.E. im handicapped and wheelchair bound - has anybody worked on creating applications thatrun inthebackground designed to help folks with disabilities better utili zetheir computer (example:  sticky keys and screen magnifiucation, among many others?)
[07:40] <edilooks> is tht a shockwave player friend?
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> if so im willing to be a tester of such addons
[07:40] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: np, thank you sir for your time
[07:40] <Ice9> dabarco - sent
[07:40] <hondje> shadeofgrey: there was something on the -devel mailing list about that
[07:40] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: quick try, sudo killall esd and try the vlc-player again
[07:40] <delltony> anyone know where i can get a copy of transcode and mplayer for breezy?
[07:40] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: ok
[07:40] <hondje> shadeofgrey: I 'think' I read there's a team ... I had to fuss with it myself
[07:40] <dabaRCo> edilooks: yup, I am playing a game...
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> well
[07:41] <Utopiate> What is the pkg name of the kernel-source-6.8* for apt-get?
[07:41] <edilooks> wow!!!!
[07:41] <Utopiate> no matter what I type in apt can't find the kernel source...
[07:41] <edilooks> gonna try.yahooooo!
[07:41] <hondje> shadeofgrey: but the basics are already in place, such as magnification, sticky keys
[07:41] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: it said 'esd: no process killled'
[07:41] <hondje> on screen keyboard, screenreader, etc
[07:41] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, gotta take the longer path to find out what's wrong :)
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> it would be great if somebody came up with a way to run dragon naturally speaking on ubuntu
[07:42] <robotgeek> isn't there a speech to text for linux?
[07:42] <hondje> IBMs speech thing runs on linux, it was included with mandrake 7.2
[07:42] <dabaRCo> Ice9: damn...I dont know how to set it up with a router...
[07:42] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: i tried an mp3 in vlc and it's the same
[07:42] <dreamer_> i need to find out if there is a root account?
[07:42] <herbi> hi guys
[07:42] <Utopiate> no matter what I type in apt can't find the kernel source...
[07:42] <herbi> a mate of mine did a apt-get upgrade
[07:42] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:42] <Tidus> dreamer_: it's there, but the standard install locks it and requests that you use sudo instead
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> ibm's viavoice blows rancid ardvark balls
[07:42] <herbi> and now, modules arent loading
[07:43] <Utopiate> dreamer_ root is disabled...
[07:43] <hondje> ViaVoice, that's the one
[07:43] <robotgeek> !tell dreamer_ about sudo
[07:43] <Utopiate> sudo passwd root
[07:43] <edilooks> have you tried the table tennis there friend dabarco? =)
[07:43] <Ice9> dabarco - it shouldn't matter, I'm in dmz mode
[07:43] <dreamer_> k cuz i have other hard drives i want to get to
[07:43] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: done
[07:43] <hondje> XVoice
[07:43] <herbi> i had to talk him through loading his network driver over the phone so he couldget back no the internet
[07:43] <dreamer_> ty
[07:43] <herbi> his sound card module isnt loading either
[07:43] <herbi> any ideas why?
[07:43] <dabaRCo> Ice9: ez-ipupdate listens to when a interface changes the IP address.
[07:43] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: what are the volume levels here: master etc
[07:43] <Tidus> i did the expert install and it even asked me for a root password instead of disabling it
[07:43] <edilooks> have you tried the table tennis there friend dabarco? =)
[07:43] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: try changing them and see if that works?
[07:43] <AzMoo> I have samba installed, but I'm having trouble sharing a directory. It's asking me for a password everytime I try to connect to my ubuntu box. How can I give everybody read access?
[07:43] <Utopiate> What is the pkg name of the kernel-source-6.8* for apt-get?
[07:44] <herbi> anybody?
[07:44] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search kernel
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: some are already installed - magnifiers etc
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: I'm not in gnome atm but I know there are options in the menus
[07:44] <robotgeek> Utopiate: apt-cache search kernel | grep source
[07:44] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: 84....90.....90....
[07:44] <herbi> dabaRCo, so i finally got him on the network, you reckon i can get some help? :)
[07:44] <shadeofgrey> okay guys heres a question for you..  anybody know of a linux equivelant to color schemer studio?  an application for finding harmonious colors?
[07:44] <Utopiate> Thank you robotgeek!
[07:44] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel is where you should probably be looking
[07:45] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:45] <edilooks> it said "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[07:45] <Ice9> dabarco - is there no hope for me?
[07:45] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, and this happens only in vlc and not any other player?
[07:45] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:45] <dabaRCo> edilooks: no, why dont you install that package and try yourself?
[07:45] <robotgeek> edilooks: shut down synaptic if you are running it.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: re: accessibility I found this on the wiki, if you haven't seen it ->> ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccessibilityHowto
[07:45] <robotgeek> edilooks: or any other apt processes
[07:46] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: no, just in vlc
[07:46] <edilooks> oh ok ok
[07:46] <edilooks> il try
[07:46] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: let me try xmms
[07:46] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: weird
[07:46] <dreamer_> it tells me that it is invalid
[07:46] <dabaRCo> Ice9: I just dont know how to set up that setup.
[07:46] <edilooks> ahm, im stil installing the wine..later after this friend =)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: oops ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccessibilityHowto
[07:46] <Selekta> jsut have a question, windows is really shitting me off, i have set up ubuntu on a few machine for other members of my family because they only use internet/msn messenger and would like to use it on my machine, but was wondering if there was an itunes clone so i can use my ipod with it?
[07:46] <herbi> does anyone have any idea how come my friends modules for network card/sound dont autodetect and load like they used to (after he did an apt-get upgrade)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> bah - add an "H" in front of the URL :)
[07:46] <herbi> Selekta, gtkpod
[07:47] <Selekta> sounds good,
[07:47] <Selekta> what's the UI like?
[07:47] <Tidus> thoreauputic: do you know where i can find an nxclient .deb compiled for ubuntu?  it's not in the repository that's mentioned in the wiki site you gave me
[07:47] <dreamer_> i can't seem to log in as root
[07:47] <Selekta> !ubotu sudo
[07:47] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:47] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: it's the same in xmms
[07:47] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: try getting other sound plugins too, vlc-plugin-esd vlc-plugin-alsa etc and try again. or see if you can specify vlc to use only alsa. (my vlc is currently broken)
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Tidus: not off the top of my head, no - I used the one from noMachine
[07:48] <Tidus> thoreauputic: which one did you use.
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Tidus: but I tried it a while ago
[07:48] <anu> dreamer : u can set ur root password
[07:48] <dabaRCo> edilooks: how come you say friend in every post? do you guys do that in your language, something like that?
[07:48] <dreamer_> ?? it did not ask me for one
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I honestly don't remember - I just tried it as an experiment - worked well
[07:48] <dreamer_> i need to be able to find my other hard drives
[07:48] <Madpilot> !tell dreamer_ about root
[07:49] <anu> dreamer :by using sudo root passwd in terminal and the enter new password
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe, its just i love freinds =)
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe
[07:49] <anu> dreamer : use su to login as root in terminal
[07:49] <dabaRCo> ok
[07:49] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: the only things i can think of being wrong is having the output plugin set wrong
[07:49] <dreamer_> i tried it said it was inncorrect
[07:49] <thoreauputic> dabaRCo: would you prefer "enemy" ? *grin*
[07:49] <DPG__> but you have none edilooks
[07:49] <edilooks> and ubuntu pepz are friendly =P
[07:49] <din> dreamer_: sudo passwd root
[07:49] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: thanks br0
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe,, i do have =)
[07:49] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:49] <hondje> Just yell some tagalog at him, that'll learn 'em
[07:50] <edilooks> oonga
[07:50] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: np
[07:50] <edilooks> hahahaha
[07:50] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: do you ever use GFTP?
[07:50] <nickrud> dreamer_, sudo passwd; enter your user password; then enter the root password you want
[07:50] <hondje> lol
[07:50] <edilooks> bakit alam nyo ba ang tagalog?hahaha
[07:50] <thoreauputic> pablo928: rarely
[07:50] <chesty> 3/leave
[07:50] <hondje> Nope! :D
[07:50] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:50] <edilooks> hahaha i tot so someon ehere knows tagalog =)
[07:50] <herbi> so nobody can help me?
[07:51] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:51] <thoreauputic> pablo928: when I need ftp I usually use lftp or nautilus (for lazy moments)
[07:51] <edilooks> Hope Ubuntu will have a Tagalog support language =)
[07:51] <herbi> or should i just keep repeating the question until i get kicked? :(
[07:51] <anu> herbi: whats prob
[07:51] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: have you ever had problems uploading .jpg files using GFTP?
[07:51] <hondje> herbi: I dunno, does modprobe fix it?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> pablo928: no
[07:51] <nickrud> herbi, every 5-10 minutes is not excessive :)
[07:51] <herbi> hondje, yes, ive managed to get him to modprobe the network card module and get back on the net
[07:51] <herbi> but id rather fix the actual problem
[07:52] <hondje> yeah, just making sure it's like, not the module or something
[07:52] <anu> herbii had jonied just know can u explan what is ur problem
[07:52] <dabaRCo> herbi: you see...you need to give information about your issue, for us to help you.
[07:52] <herbi> anu, a friend did an apt-get upgrade, and now soundcard/network card wont autodetect/load on bootup
[07:52] <hondje> thanks! :D
[07:52] <dreamer_> ty, gonna try that..brb
[07:52] <dabaRCo> we need to know about what his ifconfig looks like, and, sound card model, chipset, and such.
[07:53] <herbi> uh why?
[07:53] <herbi> ive already mentioned it isnt the modules that dont work
[07:53] <herbi> its the module loading subsystem
[07:53] <herbi> hotplug possibly?
[07:53] <thoreauputic> hondje: I'll send the bill tomorrow ;-)
[07:53] <hondje> hotplugage
[07:53] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: my problem is that when I upload the .jpg gftp sends a Site cmd. chmod 700 which seems to change permissions for the file which when I try to view it wit http gives me an error message "permission denied"
[07:53] <dabaRCo> herbi: ok, I could be off on it too...
[07:53] <herbi> dbus? whatever handles module loading
[07:54] <hondje> does ifup eth0 modprobe the module on its own?
[07:54] <herbi> hondje, ifconfig eth0 up doesnt
[07:54] <edilooks> http://www.miniclip.com/tabletennis.htm <== Can someone fix this plug-in? =(
[07:54] <anu> herbi : try Applications >> system tools >> ubuntu device databse
[07:54] <thoreauputic> pablo928: you can usually change permissions on most ftp sites ( in gftp or using another program)
[07:54] <herbi> which im assuming is equivalent to ifup eth0
[07:54] <edilooks> http://www.miniclip.com/tabletennis.htm <== Can someone fix this plug-in and play? Help =(
[07:54] <hondje> I bet it is
[07:55] <hondje> I like how nickrud thinks....actually relevant
[07:55] <darknature> Anyone know how to install Icon's on Gnome?
[07:55] <nickrud> hondje, now, how do I take that :P
[07:55] <herbi> yeah i thought of modules too
[07:55] <hondje> darknature: drag them to the theme thing?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> pablo928: right click menu I think in gftp (haven't used it for a while)
[07:55] <Madpilot> edilooks: Shockwave for Linux doesn't exist. Blame Macromedia for that...
[07:55] <herbi> but id rather not have to walk him through fixing it again when he adds new hardware to the puter
[07:55] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: I'm using external servers (Yahoo) and don't have that much control
[07:55] <hondje> nickrud: as a good thing I'd imagine
[07:55] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:56] <darknature> the desktop theme ?
[07:56] <dabaRCo> Ice9: I will let you know if I find something out about setting up ezipupdate with a router.
[07:56] <edilooks> i see. so u mean friend that its too impossible to play this? are there any alternative?
[07:56] <thoreauputic> pablo928: does the same thing happen if you use a commandline ftp client? (like lftp or just ftp)
[07:57] <anu> darknature : goto system>>prefrence>> theme >> install theme
[07:57] <anu> darknature : to select icon use edit option of it
[07:57] <thoreauputic> pablo928: "put foo.jpg "  - then see if the perms change (if so it's a server issues I guess)
[07:57] <edilooks> i see. so u mean friend that its too impossible to play this? are there any alternative? i mean the shockwave player =(
[07:57] <Vaske_Car> dabaRCo: are you from old Yugoslavia?
[07:57] <anu> darknature : it work for desktop window border and icons
[07:58] <dabaRCo> ya, born in BG, then lived in ZG,
[07:58] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: still haven't figured out the command line ftp clients
[07:58] <herbi> anu, he says it has frozen
[07:58] <nickrud> herbi, if putting the modules in /etc/modules works, and without the modules there, it does not, I'd suggest filing a bug against hotplug
[07:58] <darknature> ok how do i install icons that i downloaded?
[07:58] <Madpilot> edilooks: no Shockwave for Linux - Flash, yes, but no Shockwave at all. Complain to Macromedia...
[07:58] <darknature> blah nvm
[07:58] <Vaske_Car> vidi se
[07:58] <Vaske_Car> :)
[07:58] <vladuz976_> what terminals do you use?
[07:58] <darknature> forget what i asked i just noticed :P
[07:59] <edilooks> I see =( damn...macromedia should make one for this so tht many can enjoy and praise their products
[07:59] <Selekta> ehehehe suckers...
[07:59] <thoreauputic> pablo928: it isn't hard: e.g lftp ftp.blah.com , login user , password , cd public_html , put myfile.jpg
[07:59] <edilooks> salekta, how?
[07:59] <darknature> ok i thought icon files were suppose to be in .svg
[07:59] <Madpilot> Selekta: ???
[07:59] <Selekta> winxp :(
[07:59] <darknature> why is it saying file format invalid
[07:59] <edilooks> waaaaaaaaaa
[07:59] <Madpilot> Selekta: that doesn't count!
[07:59] <edilooks> hahahaha i tot its Ubuntu
[07:59] <edilooks> hhahahaha
[07:59] <mustafu> I hope it's oneday more automated, as is in a "Complain about lack of Shockwave for Linux" link :P
[07:59] <YuWei> have any body compile the madwifi on their box? when i do 'sudo make', it gave me something like "Warning: could not find /usr/local/src/madwifi/ath_hal/.hal.o.cmd for /usr/local/src/madwifi/ath_hal/hal.o". anyone can help?
[07:59] <edilooks> selekta used win xp to play not ubuntu hahahaha
[08:00] <edilooks> amaw ka selekta hahahaha
[08:00] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: i'll give it a try
[08:00] <anu> herbi : last try is get ur sources.list updated as per userguide of ubuntu at http://ubuntuguide.org/ nd then do sudo apt-get update
[08:01] <herbi> how would that fix the module problem?
[08:01] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[08:01] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[08:01] <anu> herbi : then sudo apt-get upgrage
[08:01] <dabaRCo> edilooks: yes, it does not seem to work in ubuntu.
[08:01] <nickrud> :)
[08:01] <dabaRCo> Vaske_Car: how can you see?
[08:01] <herbi> anu, thats what got him into this mess in the first place.
[08:01] <darknature> does ubuntu take .svg files for icons?
[08:01] <edilooks> boycott macromedia in its shockwave thingy! hehe, joke =(
[08:01] <Madpilot> mustafu: go track down a complaint URL at Macromedia, and add it to the Ubuntu wiki's Flash entry!
[08:01] <herbi> emptied his sources.list, ran apt-setup, and apt-get upgrade
[08:01] <hondje> there's a decent reason there's no linux shockwave player
[08:02] <anu> herbi : u better start reinstall    ur os to save time n thoughts.
[08:02] <herbi> LOL
[08:02] <herbi> pathetic
[08:02] <nickrud> herbi, a good sources.list is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:02] <darknature> blah it won't let me drag this file into the icon installtion window
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> hey listen...  the info on ubuntuguide.org is dated, but its incredibly thorough...  it blows the pathetic ubuntu wiki out of the water
[08:03] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, except, unless you can read between the lines, you will be f**d
[08:03] <anu> herbi u dont have to empty the source list just get it updated list form userguide of ubuntu
[08:03] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: so add information - *current* information - to the wiki. That's why it's a wiki...
[08:03] <hondje> darknature: is it a single icon or is it a tarball with icons?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: unfortunately it is sometimes wrong though
[08:04] <darknature> well the tarball file only has one icon file its a .svg
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> okay guyts...  any suggestions for fowenloading a program capable of creating custom colorschemes?  Theres a program called colorschemer for windows -- how involved  would getting that app to run using wine be?
[08:04] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html
[08:04] <slipstream3d> hello
[08:05] <darknature> is it the wrong format?
[08:05] <edilooks> does anyone here have played yahoo chess in ubuntu? cos the java thingy is not installed. how to install on ein order to play? please help friends =)
[08:05] <Tidus> thoreauputic: here's the error i'm getting with the nx client itself.
[08:05] <Madpilot> !tell edilooks about java
[08:05] <Tidus> tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:05] <Tidus> ./nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:05] <nickrud> !java
[08:05] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:05] <hondje> darknature: just put the icon in /usr/share/icons or something like that, and pick it manually
[08:05] <slipstream3d> anyone around that can help a linux noob get his new copy of the x86-64 Ubuntu 5.10 to boot?
[08:06] <edilooks> honestly, im vevery very beginner in ubnuntu and so as the linux thingy, can someone teach me how to install? whats the command?
[08:06] <edilooks> please =(
[08:06] <darknature> k
[08:06] <Prowl3r> Is their anyway I can restart the sound driver say in console?
[08:06] <Madpilot> edilooks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for java info
[08:06] <edilooks> oh
[08:06] <edilooks> ok ok il try
[08:06] <hondje> restart the sound driver?
[08:07] <nickrud> edilooks, you want to look at, from the top menu, System-Admin-Synaptic
[08:07] <Madpilot> edilooks: didn't you get the msg that ubotu sent you
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I can't really help, sorry - I don't know enough about it. If youcame back later possibly Seves could help you
[08:07] <hondje> you could use modprobe to unload and reload it, I guess
[08:07] <lord_nikon> u guess
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: sorry I mean Seveas
[08:07] <Prowl3r> hondje sounds good, looks like it crashed
[08:07] <Tidus> thoreauputic: that's ok.  my NX server's not up right now anyway.  it's undergoing its system install
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> i concur that the data is sometimes wrong with ubuntu guide, but for a totally green newbie, its an excellent starting point.  i got my first ubuntu installation running like a charm in 2 hours thanks to that guide...  i even had DVD playback going and stuff
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: he built the stuff on the wiki page Ipointed you to
[08:07] <slipstream3d> more specifically, the problem is with the liveCD. it runs me through all the startup options, it detects hardware and asks me the resolutions x should use, brown screen with cursor comes up... and nothing happens.
[08:07] <Tidus> thoreauputic: all that's there is the freenx server, but not the client itself.
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> anyway...  anybody know of a color scheming utility for ubuntu?
[08:08] <darknature> blah i don't have permission to write to this folder
[08:08] <darknature> ahh darn it
[08:08] <edilooks> friends, on the site tht u gave me, i dont understand what it is said there =(
[08:08] <nickrud> darknature, which folder?
[08:08] <hondje> Tidus: was that an ubuntu .deb you installed? If not, you might have to make a symlink to fake it
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I'm aware of that: I was suggesting you consult Seveas because he is often here and knows about freenx
[08:08] <Tidus> hondje: the funny thing is, the binary i'm trying to run is a statically compiled copy of the client
[08:08] <edilooks> or what to do...i dont really understand =(
[08:09] <lord_nikon> right
[08:09] <hondje> Tidus: that is odd
[08:09] <Tidus> hondje: that's why it's on my desktop instead of in /usr/NX/bin
[08:09] <darknature> i put it in the /user/share/icons
[08:10] <darknature> well i tried
[08:10] <hondje> if it's statically compiled, then I have NO clue why you get that
[08:10] <hondje> So like, we're on the same page man
[08:10] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the wiki is a work in progress by definition - it will improve as people contribute to it
[08:10] <Tidus> tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:10] <Tidus> oops.
[08:10] <Tidus> stupid thumb
[08:10] <HappyFool> darknature: you need to use sudo to write to that directory
[08:10] <Tidus> hondje: tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:11] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: also the new FAQ for breezy is somewhat based on ubuntuguide I believe
[08:11] <Tidus> nevermind.
[08:11] <Tidus> i give up on trying to copy/paste.
[08:11] <hondje> lol
[08:11] <i-rACEr_> hello. what imap daemon is ubuntu using?
[08:11] <darknature> thanks happyfool ill see about that
[08:11] <nickrud> i-rACEr_, dovecot
[08:12] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: one would think any FAQ on ubuntu would be similar in substance
[08:12] <i-rACEr_> and for sending email, sendmail?
[08:12] <rob^> johndarkhorse, yes
[08:12] <Tidus> hondje: let's just say that i downloaded the statically compiled .tar.gz from their download site and it's still not working
[08:12] <rob^> johndarkhorse, same target audience
[08:12] <nickrud> locally, postfix; to your smarthost, your mail client
[08:12] <hondje> Tidus: maybe rebuild it yourself?
[08:12] <Tidus> hondje: i tried that.
[08:12] <Tidus> i found a source .deb and it still gives me that
[08:13] <i-rACEr_> nickrud, thank you
[08:13] <hondje> hrm
[08:13] <hondje> symlink is all I can think of, and that sounds like it'd be pointless
[08:13] <nickrud> i-rACEr_, np
[08:14] <Tidus> hondje: i tried the symlink, and it got rid of the missing file error, but then it found a wrong relocation or something and still refused to run
[08:14] <hondje> then I can't be of service tonight I'm afraid :) I am but an egg
[08:15] <slipstream3d> Can anyone think of a reason why an x86-64 copy of Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu all would fail at various stages before getting the desktop environment to load (all on the same system that runs 32 bit windows xp perfectly)?
[08:15] <rob^> slipstream3d, 1st question, is the pc 64bit?
[08:15] <hondje> lol, that's a good question :D
[08:15] <slipstream3d> Yes :D... it's an Athlon 64 3000+, Winchester core
[08:16] <rob^> what stage is ubuntu failing?
[08:16] <slipstream3d> MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (nForce 3) mainboard...
[08:16] <slipstream3d> I am using the 5.10 LiveCD, and it loads everything in the "ugly" stage, gets to the pretty brown background with a cursor, and then freezes
[08:16] <ForgottenSin> Phwoar!
[08:16] <ForgottenSin> I'm back
[08:16] <slipstream3d> Once I saw the login screen, another time I did not
[08:17] <shadeofgrey> okay guys...  i also need to know this -- how do i get the nautilus file browser to show the contents of EVERYTHING as a list -- which shows the file type, size, and date modified etc etc...  at the moment its default is to show everything as icons with no useful info whatsoever
[08:17] <rob^> slipstream3d, have you tried installing it?
[08:17] <rob^> slipstream3d, have you tried the breezy preview also?
[08:17] <bunnyboy> I am using hoary..xmms often pauses for no reason while playing, esp. whn I open other programs...does anyone know why?
[08:17] <slipstream3d> I tried installing a version of Debian a month or so ago to exactly the same effect
[08:17] <edilooks> doesn't work
[08:17] <slipstream3d> so I don't think it's specific to Ubuntu.
[08:17] <edilooks> cant install the java plugin
[08:17] <ForgottenSin> Ok, so I start up AmaroK and it gives me this error that sound is already in use or something, I can't get it to show again. But For some reason neither it or XMMS will output sound. Gaim and other programs are, and the music in the players in progressing, but no sound. Any help?
[08:18] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, system (top menu bar)-pref-file-management-view tab-view folders using
[08:18] <edilooks> there's no package for sun-j2re1.5
[08:18] <slipstream3d> I'm using the LiveCD now because I don't have a spare HD to mess around with...
[08:18] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  for the love of God...  friends dont let friends use xmms -- they encourage everyone to use beep media player instead
[08:18] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: View - View as list  ?
[08:18] <edilooks> i cant see any package available
[08:18] <bunnyboy> shadeofgrey, explain
[08:18] <rob^> slipstream3d, sound like someting dodgy is going on with your hardware, or it just isn't supported
[08:18] <HappyFool> does 32-bit ubuntu run ok?
[08:18] <slipstream3d> Any place where I can look up a compatibility list?
[08:19] <slipstream3d> I haven't had the chance to try a 32 bit distro (i'm a bit tight on bandwidth...)
[08:19] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  xmms is visually horrible, and has more bugs in it than the newest version of windows...
[08:19] <rob^> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport
[08:19] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: a bit of an exaggeration :)
[08:19] <newubuntuuser> Hi everyone!
[08:20] <slipstream3d> I don't ahve anything *that* oddball... nforce 3 mainboard, nvidia 6800 (agp) graphics card, PCI sb audigy, sata main hard disk and IDE secondary.
[08:20] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you know about skins for xmms , right?
[08:20] <nickrud> slipstream3d, you would probably be better off with a 32 bit version; a lot of the good stuff (flash, movies, etc) won't work in 64 bit without a lot of extra work
[08:20] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: have you set the 'output plugin' of xmms to eSound ?
[08:20] <newubuntuuser> Now that I have Ubuntu insatlled, I am in need of Java... It won't let me install it.
[08:20] <newubuntuuser> !Java
[08:20] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:20] <edilooks> yes the java
[08:20] <edilooks> i tried the wike site
[08:20] <johndarkhorse> slipstream3d: and even then, some stuff doesnt work at all
[08:20] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  its theme engine is deplorably ugly, it barfs when fed any playlist file created by windows.... need i continue?
[08:20] <ForgottenSin> HappyFool,
[08:20] <edilooks> it doesnt work
[08:21] <Tidus> ACK!
[08:21] <slipstream3d> Well, the main reason I want some sort of 64 bit linux is because I wish to be able to run MATLAB-64
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> I don't really wanna use XMMS
[08:21] <Tidus> i forgot that there is a kde client called KNX
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> I'd prefer AmaroK
[08:21] <shadeofgrey> whats amarok?
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> A media player
[08:21] <edilooks> please help me solve this missing java plugin.
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> It's better than XMMS
[08:21] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: well, this will at least let you start to find out what's wrong. perhaps there's a similar 'output sink' or 'output plugin' setting in amarok, but i have not used it
[08:21] <Tidus> shadeofgrey: http://amarok.kde.org
[08:21] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: a KDE music player a-la-itunes
[08:22] <rob^> rhythmbox is installed as the default music player in ubuntu, have you tried that?
[08:22] <bunnyboy> shadeofgrey, oooh..i've been using xmms for about 6 years..it looks shit, but plays music great...
[08:22] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: rather good really
[08:22] <i-rACEr_> anyone uses quanta on ubuntu, can i install it in gnome?
[08:22] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: however, i believe that if the xmms output setting is wrong, it just crashes
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> In AmaroK
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> It has engine settings
[08:22] <shadeofgrey> EEW!  ...kde...
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> And it's currently set to aRTSengine
[08:22] <rob^> i-rACEr_, sudo apt-get install quanta
[08:23] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: you're running ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[08:23] <rob^> ForgottenSin, bmp does too, as does xmms
[08:23] <slipstream3d> Ah well, I guess I'll just wait for a 64-bit Windows binary for MATLAB ;)
[08:23] <shadeofgrey> im....  allergic.... to...kde
[08:23] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, you discovered qt :)
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> ubuntu
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> Hoary
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> Ok
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> XMMS is refusing to boot now
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> D=
[08:23] <hondje> slipstream3d: matlab has a 64 bit version for linux?
[08:23] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: afaik in ubuntu (=gnome), esd is running, not artsd
[08:24] <nickrud> muine is nice, if you don't like rhythmbox
[08:24] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: can you change that setting to esd?
[08:24] <slipstream3d> Yes, hondje, it's on one of the CDs of the new-ish release i have
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> I'll try
[08:24] <slipstream3d> 7.0.something
[08:24] <hondje> R14?
[08:24] <slipstream3d> Yeah, probably
[08:24] <hondje> Now I have no excuse not to upgrade
[08:24] <hondje> buy a 64 bit something or other and matlab...and take out a second mortgage :(
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> amarok
[08:24] <HappyFool> hondje: yes you do. all your simulink models will break ;)
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> For engine
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> Only has a choice of aRts
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> xine
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> or Gstreamer
[08:25] <mojo> does any1 know the reason y the 'fglrx' make my color so light? and how to low down the color gamma?
[08:25] <NiLz> hm, can't upgrade firefox with apt
[08:25] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: try gstreamer?
[08:25] <hondje> HappyFool: d'oh
[08:25] <hondje> mathworks are incompetant....
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> ok
[08:25] <HappyFool> hondje: i'm (sort of) kidding; we often have compatibility problems when we upgrade
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> Now it wants an output plugin
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> esdsink?
[08:25] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: what are the other options?
[08:26] <nickrud> ForgottenSin, if your main desktop is gnome, yes
[08:26] <Tidus> i give up on NX for now.  it's doing nothing but making my head hurt
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> It works
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> =DDDDDDD
[08:26] <HappyFool> *yay*
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> Thanks heaps
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> =D
[08:26] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2072
[08:27] <rob^> NiLz, disable the unofficial backports
[08:27] <HappyFool> NiLz: maybe use the hoary-backports served from archive.ubuntu.com instead? or don't use hoary-backports at all ?
[08:28] <slipstream3d> Perhaps I shall use my laptop as my linux lab rat instead... how is power managment support under Ubuntu? (i.e. will I be able to get the same 4.5+ hour battery life?)
[08:28] <nickrud> slipstream3d, as a not portable user, I can testify that nearly everyone complains about not getting expected battery life.
[08:29] <Tidus> my old laptop gets just the same under either win or nix
[08:29] <bunnyboy> slipstream3d, you probably will...but ensure that acpi recognises your fan properly
[08:29] <Tidus> about 2 hours, then death.
[08:29] <NiLz> HappyFool: could you give me the requirede lines for sources.list please?
[08:29] <bunnyboy> slipstream3d, on my machine, it "forgot" to turn on the fan..
[08:29] <bunnyboy> :)
[08:29] <slipstream3d> lol. yikes.
[08:29] <NiLz> so I shouldn't use unofficial backports at all?
[08:30] <HappyFool> NiLz: look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:30] <newubuntuuser> looks like java is actually covered under the ubotu -bot  :-)  Have a good one and good luck!
[08:30] <HappyFool> NiLz: line 26
[08:31] <NiLz> HappyFool: yep, thanks
[08:31] <slipstream3d> Well, it sounds to me like Linux and me are a project waiting for next summer vacation, not during school. haha. thanks for the info anyway, everyone
[08:31] <NiLz> HappyFool: what about hoary-extras?
[08:32] <NiLz> should I use it?
[08:32] <firebird619> What repository do I have to have installed to get nvu via apt-get? I have added all of the repositories listed on www.ubuntuguide.org except for the backports. Is there any other repositories I should have?
[08:32] <HappyFool> NiLz: i don't; you could temporarily enable it if you need something specific, and then disable it again afterwrds
[08:32] <HappyFool> !tell firebird619 about repos
[08:32] <Madpilot> firebird619: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu
[08:32] <hondje> firebird619: hoary-extras I think?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !nvu
[08:33] <ubotu> well, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[08:33] <firebird619> HappyFool, MadPilot, and hondje, Thanks
[08:33] <Madpilot> Nvu isn't in repos anywhere for Hoary
[08:33] <NiLz> HappyFool: ok, these links you gave me do not work :(
[08:34] <ubuntuCryptid> Hey some 1 please help setup a duel boot Between WinXP and Ubuntu i have WinXP installed on C drive how do i install Ubuntu on D drive
[08:34] <Madpilot> !tell ubuntuCryptid about dualboot
[08:34] <HappyFool> NiLz: you need to 'uncomment' the lines (remove the # at the beginning)
[08:34] <NiLz> HappyFool: of course
[08:34] <NiLz> HappyFool: did that
[08:34] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2074
[08:34] <bunnyboy> has anyone seen situations where xmms spots playing spontaneously?
[08:35] <firebird619> Madpilot: When I go to ubuntuguide.org and look at how to get Nvu it says to type apt-get install nvu. Apt-get uses repos to get the files doesn't it?
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: also, i don't know if hoary-backports is up-to-date or not; perhaps it's gotten out of sync
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: in which case the easiest option is to disable hoary-backports
[08:35] <johndarkhorse> firebird619: ubuntuguide will get you into trouble
[08:35] <NiLz> HappyFool: ok
[08:35] <vladuz976_> how do you remove *.deb files?
[08:35] <NiLz> HappyFool: but I can't upgrade my firefox :(
[08:35] <Madpilot> firebird619: first, don't use the ubuntuguide, its got lots of bad info like that... the wiki page for Nvu does work, I think
[08:35] <vern401> I run ubunto on the slave drive and xp home on the master drive
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: i'm running version 1.0.6 from standard hoary repositories
[08:35] <firebird619> Madpilot: Ok, thanks
[08:36] <winner> anyone know what i'd need to watch divx/xvid files?
[08:36] <vern401> what do I need to install to play DVD's
[08:36] <HappyFool> NiLz: sorry, i must be off now; i hope someone else can help you.
[08:37] <NiLz> ok :)
[08:37] <nickrud> vladuz976_, dpkg --remove <package> is basic; using synapic is preferred
[08:37] <NiLz> How come I get this when trying to upgrade my firefox?
[08:37] <shadeofgrey> whats the most robust equivelant to dreamweaver on linux?
[08:37] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2075
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[08:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:37] <vladuz976_> nickrud, yeah will synaptic find stuff that wasn't isntalled with apt?
[08:37] <shadeofgrey> ...and is it really true that i can run dreamweaver using wine?
[08:37] <NiLz> should I remove firefox first and install again?
[08:37] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: Nvu
[08:37] <delltony> anyone here use qemu?
[08:37] <nickrud> vladuz976_, it should be under Local or Obsolete Packages
[08:38] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[08:38] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[08:38] <vladuz976_> nickrud, how do you search those obsolete in synaptic?
[08:40] <ubuntuCryptid> Madpilot the dual boot link u gave me is for NTFS drives but my drives are FAT32 what do i do now
[08:40] <nickrud> vladuz976_, select the tab status, and it's actually Installed (local or obsolete)
[08:41] <meko_> where can i get a good shell scripting tutorial ?
[08:41] <highvoltage> meko_: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za
[08:42] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i don't understand, what tab status? i don't see that
[08:42] <meko_> tnx man
[08:42] <nickrud> vladuz976_, on the lower left corner of synaptic, there are four buttons (smile) select status
[08:43] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i found it but i can't find the package i installed
[08:43] <Vaske_Car> meko_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:43] <Madpilot> !tell meko_ about cli
[08:44] <nickrud> vladuz976_, now, select the Installed (local or obsolete) in the left pane (it mentions all, Installed, etc.) that's where I find my local packages
[08:45] <nickrud> vladuz976_, for example, the java package I used dpkg -i on
[08:47] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i used that for installing evidence
[08:47] <NiLz> does any1 know what package should I install to get font "Fixed"?
[08:47] <vladuz976_> nickrud, but now i can't find it
[08:47] <nickrud> vladuz976_, try dpkg -l evidence ; if it's installed you should get some feedback
[08:48] <odat> anyone know and good gui hardware/system info apps?
[08:48] <vladuz976_> nickrud, didn't get anything
[08:48] <nickrud> NiLz, are you trying to run an old breezy by any chance :)
[08:49] <nickrud> vladuz976_, then, you either have the package name wrong, or it's not installed
[08:49] <NiLz> nickrud: ?
[08:51] <nickrud> NiLz, I think it's xfonts-base
[08:51] <tga> odat, System -> Administration -> Device Manager
[08:51] <tuppa> is scim not working well with oo.o on amd64, or is it just me?
[08:51] <tuppa> on breezy even, with oo.o2
[08:52] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i got it from here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/evidence/evidence_0.9.8-20050305-hoaryGMW_i386.deb
[08:53] <odat> tga:  k that thing doesn't seem to know very much about my system  doesn't even recognize the processor
[08:53] <nickrud> vladuz976_, then try dpkg -l evi*
[08:53] <nickrud> if evidence is installed that will find it
[08:53] <herbi> is transcode available in hoary?
[08:54] <tga> what's next after Breezy?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> grumpy
[08:54] <SuperQ> heh
[08:54] <Madpilot> !info transcode
[08:54] <bur[n] er> grumpy groundhog rather
[08:54] <Selekta> i think next one should be Selektaery Seal
[08:54] <tga> odat, look in BIOS -> Processor.. it works for me
[08:55] <odat> is there a default way to take a screen shot?
[08:55] <bur[n] er> default?
[08:55] <Madpilot> odat: push the Print Screen button on your keyboard
[08:55] <bur[n] er> odat: you can do it from the menu in gnome
[08:55] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: nope
[08:55] <herbi> !info transcode
[08:55] <bur[n] er> that's cause it doesn't
[08:55] <Madpilot> odat & bur[n] er: tht works here, honest
[08:56] <vern401> it does for me
[08:56] <nickrud> always had to remap to another key
[08:56] <bur[n] er> and then you paste or something?
[08:56] <tga> meh, Grumpy will never be released
[08:56] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: no, and then the screenshot util pops up
[08:56] <odat> madpilot: cool
[08:56] <bur[n] er> never?
[08:56] <tga> it's like sid
[08:56] <tga> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrumpyGroundhog
[08:56] <bur[n] er> oh... that's right ;)
[08:56] <bur[n] er> i'm not sure what's after breezy then ;)
[08:56] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: actually grumpy (when and if it happens) will be the bleeding edge always broken branch - I heard sabdfl mention "Dapper" so maybe that's Breezy +1
[08:56] <Madpilot> odat & bur[n] er: also, system menu -> Print Screen
[08:57] <tga>  "Breezy+1" (6.04; No name yet; Planned for April 2006)
[08:57] <thoreauputic> tga: right, you didn't hear me mention Dapper, OK ;)
[08:57] <benplaut> tga: there's a name already
[08:58] <nickrud> love irc logs :)
[08:58] <benplaut> i found a page in the wiki on it, just a sec
[08:58] <tear> any good .rar package manager precompiled in ubuntu?
[08:58] <tga> what's a dapper?
[08:58] <benplaut> archive-manager?
[08:58] <Madpilot> Dapper Dinosaur, mascot to be a purple furry dino! ;)
[08:58] <nickrud> a dapper is a dandy?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> tga: I assume it would "Dapper <insert animal>"
[08:58] <tear> yea
[08:59] <tear> the "unrar" can't work with newr rar versions
[08:59] <deFrysk> tear, unrar-nonfree
[08:59] <ShortDogg> hey guys i installed ubuntu, and when it asked to type a password, i didn't eneter anything in it, and it told me i had to, so i started typing but no asterisc thingies were showing up, it was as if nohing was being typed, i pressed enter and the installation continued, now when i load it up and it asks me to type in my username and pass, it says invalid password, is there anything i can do?
[08:59] <Madpilot> dapper: "marked by smartness in dress and manners" - thank you Google...
[09:00] <tear> any graphical?
[09:00] <tga> lol ShortDogg, just pushing random keys will get you in trouble
[09:00] <ShortDogg> yeah.. :(
[09:00] <deFrysk> tear, file-roller
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: erm - you have an unknown password now
[09:00] <ShortDogg> is there any way of reseting the pass?
[09:00] <tear> deFrysk, that can't handle .rar
[09:00] <tga> ShortDogg, you can boot off the livecd, mount your current system, chroot, then use passwd
[09:01] <deFrysk> tear, then I do not know
[09:01] <tga> ShortDogg, or if you really don't know what you're doing just reinstall the thing
[09:01] <tear> OK, thanks anyway
[09:01] <ShortDogg> i'll just reinstall :(
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: or easier, boot into recovery mode, and run passwd <youruser>
[09:01] <ShortDogg> oh what?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you get a root prompt in recovery mode
[09:01] <ShortDogg> so what do i do exactly for that?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: choose that boot option
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: when you get a # prompt, type  passwd <yourusername>  and change it
[09:04] <ShortDogg> but to get into any mode it asks for a user and pass before i go in
[09:04] <vern401> boot into recovery mode
[09:04] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: no, recovery mode gives you a root prompt
[09:05] <ShortDogg> but how do i boot into it?
[09:05] <candlelight> hmm.. yesterday I tried, recovery mode ask for passwd
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you might need to hit <esc>
[09:05] <ShortDogg> oh ok
[09:05] <ShortDogg> thanx hold on..
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you should get a grub menu
[09:06] <thoreauputic> candlelight: recovery mode does not ask for a password, it dumps you at a root prompt
[09:06] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: did you see oLNaAn?
[09:06] <ShortDogg> ok it's going into recovery now.. so what do i type exactly??? say i wanna change password to "doodoo"
[09:06] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: right - I see what you are talking about
[09:06] <candlelight> hmm... maybe I was trying single user mode
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg:  passwd <your user name>
[09:07] <ShortDogg> ok and will that ask me to change?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it will then prompt for a password
[09:08] <ShortDogg> ok cool
[09:08] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: so in my case it would be  passwd peter
[09:08] <thoreauputic> that's what I would need to type
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> arggh! anyone know where azureus stores downloads temporarily before moving them to the destination folder?
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> i get home, it's downloaded this file, but complained it couldn't write to some directory
[09:09] <LethAL-Rocks> Um... look in it's options
[09:09] <delltony> thoreauputic, i keep getting a op.o error when trying to compile qemu but thanks for that link
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> now it's hosed...
[09:09] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: if that succeeds, type reboot and the machine should restart
[09:09] <ShortDogg> ok awesome it's changed the password :D
[09:09] <ShortDogg> thanx heaps for the help
[09:09] <ShortDogg> man it takes ages to boot ubuntu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> delltony: I haven't tried compiling it - I just played with the stock version from apt-get
[09:10] <delltony> yeah but the stock version doesn't have kqemu in it does it?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: just *don't* write it on a sticky note *grin*
[09:10] <ShortDogg> lol ok
[09:11] <thoreauputic> delltony: correct, it is therefore rather slow
[09:11] <delltony> yeah
[09:11] <ShortDogg> is ubuntu usually slow when it boots for most ppl, or is it just coz my comp is crappy?
[09:11] <delltony> thats why i'm wanting to compile it. i had it compiled on hoary but now im running breezy gotta start all over
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it's fairly slow to boot in general, yeah
[09:12] <Madpilot> Mine boots in about the same amount of time as XP used to take - not that that's saying much...
[09:12] <ShortDogg> ok, ah well it's still kiks the crap outa microsoft
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: since I haven't rebooted for 80 days I don't notice ;)
[09:12] <vern401> does ubuntu make a log if it has errors found when booting
[09:12] <ShortDogg> lol isn't it bad to leave the comp on that long?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: why?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: some people have uptimes of over a year or more
[09:13] <vern401> because microsofts systems mess up after a while without rebooting it
[09:13] <user1> HELLO
[09:13] <user1> hello
[09:13] <tear> hmm, seems like fileroller normaly should handle .rar files, but  the ones for 64-bit havn't got that support. :/ BAH!
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: this isn't windows
[09:14] <johndarkhorse> vern401: there are some linux boxes that run for years w/o a reboot
[09:14] <vern401> I know I was just sayin why people think that way
[09:14] <tear> if you don't use it as a workstation you can have a linux station running for years
[09:15] <tear> my co workers server has like 1y2m uptime or so
[09:15] <AzMoo> Anybody know of an OS X style dock?
[09:15] <darkheart> AzMoo Yes, there is a gdesklet or something that behaves that way...I fail to remember it's name though.
[09:16] <AzMoo> darklet, well, at least I know it exists, thanks :)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> AzMoo: also superkaramba for KDE I think
[09:16] <darkheart> AzMoo Np =)
[09:16] <vern401> my laptop looses sound when i have a wireless card running
[09:17] <johndarkhorse> AzMoo: gdesklet, superkaramba or adesklets should have something between them for you
[09:18] <ShortDogg> man is way slower than what it was like when i had windows on :(
[09:19] <vbgunz> how do you log in with your name?
[09:20] <vbgunz> suppose to be /msg or /nick or something... not sure
[09:20] <Wilf> vbgunz, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[09:20] <Madpilot> vbgunz: /msg nickserv help
[09:20] <thoreauputic> vbgunz:  try /msg nickserv help
[09:21] <yahalom> any known issues with breezy and ati? if i install it the way i did on hoary it crashes my X and i need to reconfigure x. any ideas?
[09:21] <vbgunz> thank you! I tried /help nick and /help msg but to no avail!
[09:21] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[09:21] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: :)
[09:21] <Wilf> :x
[09:21] <Coag> umm
[09:21] <Coag> im playing mp3's through amarok
[09:21] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:21] <Coag> but imnot hearing any sound
[09:21] <vbgunz> hey thoreauputic, whats up, I just installed and updated Breezy on a new system...
[09:22] <Coag> and the volume is up and stuff
[09:22] <vbgunz> just thought I give it a try and see whats up
[09:22] <Wilf> ewww, ginger
[09:22] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: ah, hope it works well for you
[09:22] <Myrtti> gnau... *yawn*
[09:22] <Myrtti> mornin
[09:23] <Myrtti> me me!
[09:23] <hooooory> hey is there a way to make the ubnuntu install download everything off the net rather than off the cd?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: you! you!
[09:23] <Myrtti> o.o
[09:23] <hooooory> like even the kernal?
[09:23] <vbgunz> trying to update an nvidia driver... Am currently asked about "--kernel-source-path" thought I ask in here if someone know about it
[09:23] <Madpilot> Coag: got mp3 codecs added?
[09:23] <Myrtti> me cookie want.
[09:23] <Coag> im sure i do
[09:23] <vbgunz> seems good so far
[09:23] <Coag> because the files are playing
[09:23] <yahalom> hooooory, edt /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the cdrom
[09:23] <Coag> im just not hearing sound
[09:23] <hooooory> apt is soo goood
[09:24] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: happy?
[09:24] <Myrtti> /me gives thoreauputic a kiss on the cheek
[09:24] <vbgunz> jsut my display is at 1024 when I know it can go higher... funny thing about resolution is once you go higher you really can't believe you wasn't higher to begin with...
[09:24] <Myrtti> /me rubs the lipstick of thoreauputics cheek with a flannel hankey
[09:24] <thoreauputic> hahah
[09:24] <Myrtti> off, even
[09:24] <johndarkhorse> hooooory: there is no 'net install' cd, if that's what your'e asking
[09:25] <hooooory> ok
[09:25] <yahalom> nobody here using fglrx with breezy?
[09:25] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: what about brezzy?
[09:25] <Myrtti> but it's not rocket science to use nano or smthn before the cd-install starts to comment the cd out
[09:25] <ShortDogg> why is unbuntu soooo slow on my computer? none of the windows were ever this slow
[09:26] <Wilf> maybe your computer ran out of petrol
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: specs of your machine?
[09:26] <yahalom> lol
[09:26] <Coag> damnit this is pissing me right off :(
[09:26] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: how does debians net install cd work?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: how much RAM? What CPU?
[09:26] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: can it install everyyyyything off the net?
[09:26] <vbgunz> can someone help me out please. Currently I am trying to install Nvidia driver 7676 for my 5600 card. I've installed GCC+CC+MAKE but now am being asked for the source of the kernel... It said I can start install with --kernel-source-path but not sure if I already have it or if it is on disc or what... I need a little guidance. Any help is appreciatedZ!
[09:27] <vbgunz> I am using Breezy Badger
[09:27] <thoreauputic> !tell vbgunz about nvidia
[09:27] <ShortDogg> p2 400mhz 128mb of ram
[09:27] <hooooory> johndarkhorse:or does it install the kernal with the basics first and then download packages?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: hmm - that's right on the edge of usability
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: extra RAM would help a lot
[09:28] <tear> !chroot
[09:28] <ubotu> hmm... chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:28] <vbgunz> I really don't feel my card got picked up by default installation... I am stuck at 1024 when I can go 1280. My refresh rates are off and it is 256MB which can run some pretty descent games but not a single Linux screensaver... whats up with that ;)
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: or you can install a lighter desktop - like xfce4
[09:28] <sml>  i have a process 'perl' using about 95% CPU is this the same as yours?
[09:28] <mustafu> I have a P2-400 as well, with 392 RAM though, and it's probably more usable than what you're describing
[09:29] <vbgunz> screensavers are slow... :P
[09:29] <vbgunz> one sec, any help is much appreciated!
[09:29] <ShortDogg> what's xfce4?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: an alternative desktop
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you can see others at http://xwinman.org
[09:30] <ShortDogg> i thought linux was generally supposed to be faster than windows, that kinda why i wanted to install it because of my low resources
[09:30] <thoreauputic> plus window managers
[09:31] <smott> ShortDogg: not really
[09:31] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it can be - but it depends what you install
[09:31] <ShortDogg> how would this Xfce run on my system do u think?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: faster than gnome
[09:32] <sml> why is 'perl' maxing out my CPU%?
[09:33] <smott> are you people quite sure that xfce is faster than gnome? because i couldn't discern a difference in speed (but gnome is MUCH better feature-wise)
[09:33] <thoreauputic> sml: some perl script maybe - check with ps aux | grep perl
[09:33] <thoreauputic> smott: it's definitely faster/lighter
[09:33] <thoreauputic> smott: I tried it on a p200 mmx and it was usable
[09:33] <ShortDogg> ok cool, do u think it wouldn't be faster than most windows?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> with 64MB ram
[09:34] <winner> ShortDogg: what are your system specs?
[09:34] <ShortDogg> p2 400mhz, 128mb of ram
[09:34] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: for maximum speed you use light apps, and a minimal window manager like blackbox
[09:34] <smott> thoreauputic: hm. i suppose there's not much difference on more high-end computers
[09:35] <thoreauputic> smott: right - the diff isn't as noticeable on my 2Ghz machine with 512MB RAM
[09:36] <ubuntuCryptid> Madpilot the dual boot link u gave me is for NTFS drives but my drives are FAT32 what do i do now
[09:36] <vbgunz> thoreauputic, sorry, thanks for the link, I tried to private message you with thanks but am still new to xchat and IRC in general... Anyhow I didn't pick up on the link quick enough because my first experience with little tabs popping up meant spam... anyhow im on it! Thanks!
[09:36] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: it really doesn't make that much difference
[09:36] <ubuntuCryptid> k forget that i guess i will install only ubuntu and wash my hands off winows
[09:36] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: you're welcome :)
[09:37] <ubuntuCryptid> Is Wine available for ubuntu
[09:37] <AristoMagnus> sure
[09:37] <ubuntuCryptid> ok does wine run all windows applications
[09:37] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: dual boot isn't that hard - you just tell the installer to put Ubuntu on you second drive, basically
[09:38] <tga> ubuntuCryptid, no
[09:38] <AristoMagnus> no games
[09:38] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid & thoreauputic: the dual boot should work the same over both FAT32 & NTFS, from what I've heard
[09:38] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no wine doesn't run all win apps
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: right
[09:38] <sml> thoreauputic .. /usr/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --platform debian-3.0 --set
[09:38] <thoreauputic> sml: erm... what's that for?
[09:39] <ubuntuCryptid> thoreauputic well i tried doing that but the partion manager does let me do that it is asking me setup the mount point and i didnt know what to do
[09:39] <sap__> hi, I'm looking for the simplest way of getting xorg built from source. my first step was to apt-get source xserver-xorg but this isn't going smoothly. Does anyone know of an ubuntu guide?
[09:39] <dominican> anybody know of any cbt mirc channels???
[09:39] <sml> thoreauputic .... the perl process comsuming all my CPU i guess?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> sml: ah I see
[09:40] <thoreauputic> sml: well kill it...
[09:40] <sml> thoreauputic ... does it do anything?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> sml: probably yes ;-)
[09:40] <johndarkhorse> sml: that process takes over on my system, also. i have to kill it each time (or let it run its slow slow course)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> sml: something to do with your networking aparently...
[09:41] <johndarkhorse> sml: did you recently use your network configure applet?
[09:41] <sml> johndarkhorse .. yes
[09:41] <sml> i might try and a reboot and see if it is running from start-up
[09:42] <ceviz|laptop> is there a vnc server or configuration which allows you to vnc to the window session currently on that pc?
[09:42] <cdc> hello guys
[09:42] <johndarkhorse> sml: it doesnt. it only comes up when you call the network applet
[09:42] <sml> thanks. will try a restart
[09:42] <sml> back soon
[09:42] <cdc> i just extracted the point2play the question is
[09:42] <cdc> how can i intsall it?
[09:42] <tga> ceviz|laptop, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[09:43] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I386
[09:44] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[09:44] <Trackilizer> I need you're help.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntuCryptid about install
[09:44] <Trackilizer> I want to mount my FAT32 partition.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: yup
[09:44] <johndarkhorse> !tell Trackilizer about ntfs
[09:46] <setite> hola people
[09:47] <setite> are there any big changes coming in breezy?
[09:47] <ubuntuCryptid> Does Ubuntu come preinstalled with WinE
[09:47] <Trackilizer> johndarkhorse, thanks alot for that.
[09:47] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no
[09:47] <setite> ubuntuCryptid no?
[09:47] <setite> ok no without the ?
[09:47] <setite> hehe i didnt think so but wasnt 100%
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[09:47] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[09:47] <Trackilizer> Now i only have to find where it has been mounted.
[09:47] <setite> hey thoreauputic whats teh best 64bit distrro?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> setite: in universe
[09:48] <cdc> where to run the sudo program
[09:48] <thoreauputic> setite: no idea
[09:48] <fivetwentysix> setite: Ubuntu!!! haha
[09:48] <cdc> where to run the sudo program
[09:48] <thoreauputic> cdc: in a terminal , followed by commands
[09:48] <setite> fivetwentysix - they dont port everythign... im wondering if there is a distro that does... i think im giving up my freebsd quest as that was a failed experiment
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !tell cdc about sudo
[09:49] <setite> fivetwentysix - problem with ubuntu64 is that dma broke itself...
[09:49] <fivetwentysix> I'm using 64AMD and using Ubuntu, I'm not having much problems.
[09:49] <setite> but which ubuntu
[09:49] <setite> 64 or 32
[09:49] <fivetwentysix> 64
[09:49] <Badcel> hi, can somebody help me with my tv-card,? (its a hauppauge tv pci fm)
[09:49] <setite> 32 is fine.. great even... but i want 64... and it was proving evil when dma stopped
[09:49] <ubuntuCryptid> How many Windows emulators are there And which is the best Please suggest
[09:50] <setite> ubuntuCryptid 3 main... wine, winex(cedega, and crossover office
[09:50] <fivetwentysix> ubuntuCryptid: Cedega?
[09:50] <setite> all have their purposes
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: if you are stuck on thinking about windows emulation, maybe you aren't quite ready for Linux: better to find linux apps that run natively
[09:51] <setite> crossover office is very rigid in my experience and not much will work that i tried... cedega and wine are nice because most will work if you try hard enough and there are not too many windows dependcencies
[09:51] <setite> thoreauputic - come on a little wine with your dinner doesnt hury
[09:51] <setite> hurt*
[09:51] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid: which Windows app are you looking at still having to run under Ubuntu?
[09:52] <fivetwentysix> I want to use Ventrilo :-(.
[09:52] <Angel-SL> *last asking* is it ok to burn CD ISOs to DVD-RW?
[09:52] <setite> ventrilo doenst have alinux client?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> setite: sure, but you weren't here earlier - ubuntuCryptid has been agonising about other stuff ;)
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> Angel-SL: just fine
[09:52] <fivetwentysix> setite: Don't think so, lemme check.
[09:52] <ubuntuCryptid> madpilot i want Visual basic and P2P applications to run like lime wire Soul seek Etc
[09:52] <setite> thoreauputic - yea i was agonizing over in freebsd... but bugger that i want ubuntu back after spending all that tiem in CLI to no avail
[09:52] <Angel-SL> johndarkhorse: are you sure? burning a cd mage to a dvd-rw
[09:52] <Angel-SL> image
[09:53] <fivetwentysix> No, it's still in development, 'as they say'.
[09:53] <johndarkhorse> Angel-SL: it's just a waste of space (which in this case isnt, cuz it's -RW)
[09:53] <ubuntuCryptid> thoreauputic i am sorry if i am irritating U
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: visual basic is purely MS
[09:53] <setite> well from my experience cedega will run it im sure
[09:53] <setite> or wine...
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no, I didn't mean that :)
[09:53] <setite> dont bother with crossover office... its not free and it almost NEVER works for unsupported apps
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: best to just dive in and learn, though
[09:54] <setite> ive had a great deal of luck with cedega for non-games
[09:54] <ubuntuCryptid> well i found the applications list that wine supports and it supports every thing i need ( i am so happy ) i will install ubuntu Now Bye
[09:54] <setite> wien supports ventrilo?
[09:54] <setite> before you go
[09:54] <setite> remember to check the forums before here
[09:54] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid: there are p2p apps for Linux
[09:54] <setite> ubuntuforums.org
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: see you on Ubuntu then :)
[09:55] <setite> limewire has a linux variant
[09:55] <ubuntuCryptid> bye every 1
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> limewire sux
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> :-PPPPPPP
[09:55] <cdc> Couldn't display "/media/cdrom0/install.exe".
[09:55] <cdc> thats the error i receive
[09:55] <ShortDogg> hey guys whats the apt-get command to download xfce???
[09:55] <Myrtti> lol
[09:55] <setite> there are many threads ont eh forum abotu ventrilo
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> apt-get install xfce?
[09:55] <environ> is it possible to let gtk1 apps look like gtk2 apps?
[09:55] <setite> i wonder... is there a kubuntu 64 cd
[09:55] <Myrtti> apt-cache search xfce?
[09:55] <setite> so i can forgo installing gnome
[09:56] <vbgunz> thanks thoreauputic, unfortunately the page didn't help much... It broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... It use to refresh but now it dies and doesn't come back... I have to restart "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to get it back... And the screensavers are garbage... I know I am not pulling my weight with this card
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:56] <chavo> environ, only if there's a gtk1 theme that matches your gtk2 theme
[09:56] <ShortDogg> it says package not found
[09:56] <cdc> thoruepatic
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: note the "4" - it's important
[09:56] <fivetwentysix> ShortDogg, you update your repositries?
[09:56] <cdc> is your msg to shortdog can be same with mine?
[09:56] <environ> but there aint a programm that "emulates" gtk1 in gtk2 with antialiasing etc.
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you need the universe repo
[09:57] <vbgunz> I did manage on backing up the xorg.conf and manually editing it to get my resolution up and that worked but unfortunately screensavers are lagamegus
[09:57] <thoreauputic> !tell ShortDogg about repos
[09:57] <setite> how stable is breezy
[09:57] <johndarkhorse> setite: not quite 'stable'
[09:57] <thoreauputic> cdc: ?
[09:57] <vbgunz> not sure im on Breezy and it seems good... One thing I noticed is in comparison to Hoary it did pick up my Wireless cards
[09:57] <chavo> setite, it's 59.743727342% stable
[09:58] <setite> chavo - ouch thats not good... ok ill fare with hoary for now
[09:58] <chavo> I'm kidding,
[09:58] <chavo> works good for me
[09:58] <vbgunz> other than that not much difference except in the menus... They seemed to put terminal in Accessories and they seemed to remove Root Terminal I think
[09:58] <chavo> but I'm special
[09:58] <cdc> thoreaeputic i just extracted the point2play.tgz
[09:58] <setite> yay there is a 64bit kubuntu
[09:58] <setite> thats good... im tired of having gnome waste space
[09:58] <Hoxzer> what would be good mp3 player in ubuntu?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> cdc: I know nothing about point2play, sorry
[09:59] <setite> will i still have the dependencies to run gnome apps though?
[09:59] <cdc> now it gave me 3 folders namely usr, etc, opt folders
[09:59] <vbgunz> I hear a lot about amarok
[09:59] <setite> or is there a simple few packages to remedy that?
[09:59] <chavo> cdc, just extract it in /
[09:59] <chavo> as root of course
[09:59] <cdc> decsktop
[09:59] <vbgunz> anyone here successfully exploiting there GeFore 5600 Cards?
[09:59] <cdc> i just extracted it in the desktop
[09:59] <setite> as root?
[09:59] <setite> for p2p?
[09:59] <chavo> tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:00] <setite> point2play is nice
[10:00] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[10:00] <Hoxzer> Can you guys help me to mount fat32 partition as writable for all?
[10:00] <cdc> as a user
[10:00] <setite> i can log onto transgame and paste the tutorial if need be
[10:00] <LethAL-Rocks> Mine doesn't think I have cedega
[10:00] <setite> there is a wiki for it... unofficial though
[10:00] <thoreauputic> !tell Hoxzer about mountwindows
[10:00] <chavo> cdc, sudo tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:00] <vbgunz> I believe if you wish to mount a partition the unofficial guide tells you several ways on how to do exactly that
[10:00] <cdc> thats it
[10:00] <cdc> ?
[10:01] <setite> cdc
[10:01] <setite> get teh .deb
[10:01] <setite> that will make yoru life easier
[10:01] <chavo> waht could be easier than -> sudo tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:01] <ShortDogg> hey could having a crap video card affect the slowness?
[10:01] <LethAL-Rocks> Any ideas on why my p2p can't see my Cedega
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi guys... is the ubuntu site based upon plone/zope ?
[10:02] <setite> just dpkg the debs for cedega, point2play, and the two others... mozilla fonts and somethign
[10:02] <vbgunz> Can someone here tell me how to get my kernel sources onto the drive? I am trying to install an Nvidia driver and it is asking for the path/to the kernel sources
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: to an extent - but i have a crap vid onboard and it works well enough: more ram is the biggest thing
[10:03] <sobersabre> vbgunz, look the portal on nvidia howto
[10:03] <vbgunz> thanks but I think I was alreay pointed to it... I think it broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace plus it no way did anything good for the system... I am still lagging out hardcore on simple screensavers
[10:04] <cdc> chavo command is wrong i think
[10:04] <setite> if you dont get a reload on ctrrl+alt+bksp its because you may have messed up you xserver
[10:04] <vbgunz> I am not screensaver crazy but Linux aint big on games and I just wish to test the driver out on some screensavers which in my opinion immediately tell me if things are working like they should
[10:04] <setite> happens to me alot when i start tinkering with stuff
[10:04] <chavo> cdc, well try the debs then
[10:05] <environ> anyone got a registration-free server for enemy territory :)?
[10:05] <vbgunz> yeah I must have blown it out when I did the nvidia walkthrough because it worked right before it...
[10:05] <setite> chavo... if your gonna use the tarballs use the simple untar
[10:05] <setite> just rightclick and extract...
[10:05] <LethAL-Rocks> Speaking of X Server, is it possible to re-enable the scroll on my mouse without reconfiguring the whole thine again?
[10:05] <vbgunz> environ, enemy territory play well on Ubuntu?
[10:05] <setite> then install them however its set up.. but i suggest the debs
[10:05] <environ> i guess so, i havent played it yet
[10:05] <chavo> et rocks
[10:05] <crimsun> vbgunz: the distro is less important than the hardware and drivers
[10:06] <chavo> If I'm not in here I'm playing ET
[10:06] <vbgunz> not sure I follow yor crimsun... what do you mean?
[10:06] <vbgunz> so it plays well? I'd like to try it RTCW was one of my favorite single player games
[10:06] <crimsun> vbgunz: I mean that the Linux distro used isn't as important as your graphics card, CPU, and graphics drivers
[10:07] <crimsun> a relatively recent Nvidia card will work just fine
[10:07] <setite> ubuntu rocks
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> We gathered
[10:08] <setite> well ubuntu sucks
[10:08] <vbgunz> I am on Breezy and I know I am not taking advantage of my graphics card... For example the machine beside has a generic 64MB card. It runs the XMATRIX screensaver perfect. Mines is a 256MB card and can't run the screensaver at all... It is far too slow.. It's horrible to be honest
[10:08] <setite> but kubuntu rocks
[10:08] <Hoxzer> Thoreauputic: when I try to run that script it says "Ignoring /dev/hdb5 - already in /etc/fstab" and I dont even have a folder /etc/fstab/
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> ftstab is a file
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> fstb*
[10:08] <setite> vbgunz - did you enable the newer driver
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> fstab*
[10:08] <Hoxzer> oh, its a ... file
[10:09] <Hoxzer> aargh :D
[10:09] <setite> Hoxzer yea fstab is the file... dotn need the last /
[10:09] <setite> hehe i had that problem too...
[10:09] <crimsun> vbgunz: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <vbgunz> not sure how to do that... If you're referring to the Nvidia walkthrough on the Wiki I tried that... It broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and no noticable results... I logged out like it said but don't see no Nvidia logo and screensavers suck hard
[10:09] <Badcel> how can I find out, which tuner is present on my tv - card?
[10:09] <setite> vbgunz - sorry havent been following... but follow that guide... you need to install the binary and then set it int he config.. then restart x
[10:10] <shadikka> Where do I have to place a "Modeline" in xorg.conf?
[10:10] <vbgunz> ok let me recheck and retrace my steps
[10:10] <setite> it doesnt break it... you mean you ctrl+alt+bksp and all you get is cli?
[10:10] <shadikka> ?? xorg
[10:10] <BockBilbo> hello
[10:10] <shadikka> whoops
[10:10] <shadikka> !xorg
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:10] <vbgunz> ctrl+Alt+Backspace goes to a blank screen... with a blink cursor
[10:11] <setite> then you must have edited the xorg.conf wrong
[10:11] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anybody know why point2play can't find Cedega?
[10:11] <BockBilbo> to upgrade to breezy just modify in apt hoary-->breezy and apt-get dist-upgrade, right?
[10:11] <setite> check it
[10:11] <vbgunz> yeah I am trying to not go the dpkg-reconfigure route... that use to be my thing in a sense first starting out on Ubuntu
[10:11] <setite> oh it looks easier now...
[10:12] <setite> just install nvidia-glx
[10:12] <setite> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:12] <setite> then restart
[10:12] <setite> i guess you dont have to edit the xorg? off
[10:12] <setite> odd*
[10:12] <mushtaq>  hi i am trying to install php from source over my kubuntu
[10:12] <mushtaq> and i am getting the following error in compilation
[10:12] <mushtaq> error: xml2-config not found. Please check your libxml2 installation
[10:13] <cyphase> anyone here in the UK?
[10:13] <mushtaq> i have installed it
[10:13] <vbgunz> yeah I never edited the xorg... except to add the "1280x1024" entry to every selection but this was after the fact the Nvidia binary walkthrough messed up the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[10:13] <mushtaq> there are many modules i have installed but still there is an error
[10:13] <Myrtti> mushtaq: why from the source
[10:13] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: I'm in the UK
[10:13] <chavo> mushtaq, apt-get install php
[10:13] <mushtaq> because i want to add it to my apache as a module
[10:14] <cyphase> LethAL-Rocks, you still in school?
[10:14] <vbgunz> I logged out like it said but saw no logo. Never got a warning while entering the commands and thought all was good. Then I even restarted with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" but still I see no logo or any improvements
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: yeah, why?
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: Not now though :P
[10:14] <setite> i never see the logo
[10:14] <setite> never have... but never have problems
[10:14] <cyphase> lol, i don't mean right now
[10:14] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:14] <Hoxzer> now the name of my mount is terrible
[10:14] <setite> just regular restart
[10:15] <setite> and run glxgears
[10:15] <vbgunz> do you think I should really restart?
[10:15] <setite> see if you get over a 500
[10:15] <cyphase> have you had problems with the UK board requiring photoshop for ICT?
[10:15] <chavo> setite, did you disable the logo in xorg.conf
[10:15] <Hoxzer> 0GB Disk (hdb5) :E
[10:15] <cyphase> my cousin is having problems..
[10:15] <Hoxzer> hard to acces when in terminal
[10:15] <setite> chavo - no... just never had it
[10:15] <vbgunz> ok... I will try to really restart... I hope it works!
[10:15] <vbgunz> brb
[10:15] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: Nope
[10:15] <setite> but ive played games with cedega and i know that my card is enabled
[10:16] <brownie17> !tell brownie about repos
[10:16] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about repos
[10:16] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone help me on a few things before I go into an infinit loop?
[10:16] <BockBilbo> anyone knows if sshfs works on breezy?
[10:16] <mustafu> !tell mustafu about repos
[10:16] <BockBilbo> (in the kernel included in breezy)
[10:17] <cyphase> LethAL-Rocks, do they require any specific programs for assinments, i.e. photoshop, powerpoint
[10:17] <cyphase> assignments*
[10:17] <LethAL-Rocks> I think we got Macromedia MX suite for the AIDA course
[10:18] <cyphase> but do they require it?
[10:18] <LethAL-Rocks> I think so
[10:18] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm not sure :P
[10:18] <cyphase> k
[10:18] <cyphase> thanx
[10:19] <mustafu> !tell mustafu about mountwindows
[10:19] <HiddenFly> how can i force a program to use /dev/adsp instead of /dev/dsp?
[10:20] <LethAL-Rocks> mustafu: use "me" intstead of your whole nick
[10:20] <crimsun> BockBilbo: see if there are bug reports against sshfs-fuse
[10:21] <crimsun> HiddenFly: environment variables if you use it with aoss
[10:21] <mustafu> hehe, alright, thanks
[10:21] <LethAL-Rocks> ;)
[10:22] <setite> you know what would be funny
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> If someone helped me?
[10:22] <setite> if someone who worked at best buy woudl slip ubuntu discs into all the windows boxes
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:22] <HiddenFly> crimsun: ?
[10:22] <setite> LethAL-Rocks whats the problem
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> the? I have a few
[10:22] <setite> im not expert but i might be able to help on some
[10:22] <sobersabre> any breezy ppc people in here ?
[10:22] <zcat[1] > sobersabre: yes, kinda
[10:22] <setite> ppc
[10:23] <setite> poppycock
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> Scroller on mouse stopped working. Can I re-enable without reconfiguring X?
[10:23] <crimsun> HiddenFly: see the aoss ('alsa-oss' package) readme
[10:23] <HiddenFly> k
[10:23] <sobersabre> i don't mean user. i mean _developers_of_breezy_ .... hopefully...
[10:23] <setite> well why did it break
[10:23] <setite> what did you do
[10:23] <zcat[1] > ahh.. no
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> I assume something to do with X ;)
[10:23] <HiddenFly> "no manual entry for alsa-oss
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> What, I dunno
[10:23] <HiddenFly> same with aoss
[10:24] <crimsun> HiddenFly: you probably don't have the alsa-oss package installed
[10:24] <zcat[1] > why dev?
[10:24] <HiddenFly> ok, should i have it installed?
[10:24] <setite> what enablers it... emulate3button?
[10:24] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:24] <LethAL-Rocks> in xorg.conf?
[10:24] <elvirolo> does anyone use thunderbird here ?
[10:24] <ShortDogg> i can't work out how to install xfce :( it's soo confusing
[10:24] <tga> ShortDogg, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[10:25] <zcat[1] > Anyone else running breezy on OldWorld PPCs yet?
[10:25] <holycow> *oooo*
[10:25] <setite> well check your mouse settings
[10:25] <holycow> breezy usplash is niiice :)
[10:25] <holycow> haha
[10:25] <ShortDogg> yes tga i tied that but it said package not found
[10:25] <LethAL-Rocks> setite: CorePointer, Device /dev/input/mice, Protocol ImPS/2 and ZAxisMapping 4.5
[10:25] <LethAL-Rocks> It's a usb mouse though :S
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: first add the universe repository
[10:26] <tga> ShortDogg, you must have the Universe repository enabled
[10:26] <elvirolo> i'd like to know if Thunderbird stores the conf files in ~/.thunderbird or in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[10:26] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:26] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: ^^^^
[10:26] <tga> !tell ShortDogg about repos
[10:26] <ShortDogg> i went to that site but i dont understand
[10:27] <setite> check the mouse settings... i dont remember how to do that in gnome
[10:27] <setite> but check that...
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm in KDE... but I have gnome as well
[10:27] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: mind if I pm you?
[10:27] <ShortDogg> no i don't mind
[10:27] <setite> kde is better
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:27] <setite> open konqueror...
[10:27] <setite> then go to the device thing
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Do I have to >.<
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:28] <setite> well you want to be lazy
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I meant I don't like it
[10:28] <ShortDogg> it won;t let me send u pm's
[10:28] <setite> i woudl reconfigure x because it doenst take long... but this si the only other way i can think of
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I prefer Krusader
[10:28] <setite> krusader?
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> ya
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Dual-pane
[10:28] <setite> well whatever that main thing is called
[10:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: *cough* I've queried you - where are you?
[10:28] <elvirolo> yeah krusader is great
[10:29] <setite> well i just jknow that konqueror give an easy way to get to the devices
[10:29] <LethAL-Rocks> 'Device thing' = Settings? or Storage Media? or what?
[10:29] <ShortDogg> what?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: ah - have you registered?
[10:29] <setite> and you can run the mouse utility and see if it got disabled
[10:29] <ShortDogg> no...
[10:29] <setite> i believe its settings
[10:29] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg:  /msg nickserv help
[10:29] <setite> problem is i dont have kde in front of my because my powersupply for my laptop died and my battery is dead too
[10:29] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: register your nick
[10:29] <LethAL-Rocks> It's not in it, I've tried
[10:30] <ShortDogg> what if u type /j shortdoggy
[10:30] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: OK we'll try that
[10:30] <setite> oh
[10:30] <setite> ok then if its not there... then just reconfigure xserver
[10:31] <setite> in terminal... i forget the command
[10:31] <AzMoo> What would I use to burn an iso to a CD?
[10:31] <setite> just run through it... you should just be able to skip through most of the shit your not changing
[10:31] <setite> ive done it countless times when i bugger my xorg.conf so i know tis not that hard
[10:32] <zcat[1] > AzMoo: cdrecord ?
[10:32] <setite> woot burning kubuntu64
[10:32] <LethAL-Rocks> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:33] <LethAL-Rocks> wth?
[10:33] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh yeah
[10:33] <donar73> AzMoo: gnomebaker, if you want a gui
[10:33] <LethAL-Rocks> I was configuring nvidia-glx :P
[10:33] <setite> xfree86?
[10:33] <setite> haha oh you messed up on the copy
[10:33] <zcat[1] > woot, downloading slack just for a look..
[10:33] <setite> haha
[10:33] <LethAL-Rocks> setite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <setite> is there a distro better than ubuntu
[10:33] <zcat[1] > 70% [[10:33] <setite> yea do that
[10:33] <zcat[1] > only three more CD's to go
[10:34] <setite> then just ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:34] <setite> youll be back in no time
[10:34] <johndarkhorse> setite: yes there is. www.linuxfromscratch.org
[10:34] <setite> whoa... no no no.. not that
[10:34] <AzMoo> zcat[1] , donar73 thanks :)
[10:34] <setite> im interested in a good distro... not making my own
[10:35] <Malin> when will Breezy be officially released?
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> setite: moms homemade cookies were the best, right?
[10:35] <setite> tomorrowe!!!
[10:35] <setite> oct16 isnt it?
[10:35] <setite> johndarkhorse - no they werent... the ones made from the premade dough were :D
[10:35] <Madpilot> Oct 13th, which isn't a Friday ;)
[10:36] <BockBilbo> thanks crimsun
[10:36] <BockBilbo> :)
[10:36] <BockBilbo> im upgrading to breezy now, and wanted to know if sshfs worked on it
[10:36] <zcat[1] > Breezy Preview is a month ahead?
[10:36] <bitkrom> hi
[10:36] <zcat[1] > I thought it was only a week or two away!
[10:36] <setite> is there any real changes in breezy
[10:36] <bitkrom> is there a place to read about the changes in the updates?
[10:37] <setite> i just saw somethign about a usplash and fading
[10:37] <setite> !breezy
[10:37] <ubotu> I guess breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[10:38] <Hoxzer> what could be the problem if I try to play music with beep media player it just crashed
[10:38] <Hoxzer> *crashes
[10:38] <zcat[1] > not using the right kind of output (oss/artsd/esd)
[10:38] <setite> oh is the usplash liek the windows window when it boots?
[10:39] <zcat[1] > .. would be my first guess
[10:39] <setite> so i dont have to watch it boot? ::crosses fingers::
[10:39] <bitkrom> where can we view package release changes?
[10:40] <setite> holycow where you at
[10:40] <holycow> what do you mean?
[10:40] <setite> what is the usplash
[10:41] <holycow> its the boot splash called usplash
[10:41] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, check your audio output in bmp
[10:41] <Madpilot> bitkrom: packages.ubuntu.com - but I'm not sure if the changelogs or whatever are there - it's searchable, though
[10:41] <BockBilbo> it must be esound (esd)
[10:41] <setite> oh its for :"#
[10:41] <setite> People scared on the command line and black and white text
[10:41] <setite> "
[10:41] <setite> yay thats me
[10:41] <setite> woot... i hate watching that stuff... its mesmerizing
[10:42] <Trackilizer> Would anyone know how to make i link to my desktop of a folder, everytime i try that is says " not permitted" or something like that, by the way it's a folder in my FAT32 partition i'm trying to link to my desktop-
[10:42] <setite> fat320
[10:42] <holycow> no, it's an aesthetic choice, it has little do with anything else
[10:43] <BockBilbo> ln -s ?
[10:43] <setite> yea it is in place of the b&w loading info right
[10:43] <setite> like windows... wehre you dont get to see what is happening? not in the same way at least?>
[10:43] <bitkrom> Madpilot: thanks
[10:43] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, ln -s FAT32_DIRECTORY /home/user/Desktop
[10:43] <setite> ln for link?
[10:44] <zcat[1] > "hide all the useful information" so that when something goes wrong, nobody has any clue what or why!
[10:44] <setite> whats -s?
[10:44] <vbgunz> The guide for installing the Nvidia driver does work but I am on Breezy and that probably affected the walkthrough. The guide mentions to logout then login. I tried this and failed. I tried to restart while inline "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" but this failed. My screensavers were still shot butt slow. I then restarted the entire pc and this seemed to fix the problem. Screensavers are incredibly fast and all seems well. Thanks everyo
[10:44] <vbgunz> ne!
[10:44] <setite> soemoen make an ubuntu book
[10:44] <BockBilbo> setite, symbolic
[10:44] <setite> ill buy it
[10:44] <BockBilbo> its a symlink
[10:44] <vbgunz> Just thought I report back for those of you listening. Thanks again!
[10:44] <setite> vb you sob
[10:44] <bitkrom> what do you yous ye youts do when you paste into the url line but theres something there and you double paste it there in firefox
[10:44] <chavo> Trackilizer, you will get errors when writing to fat32, but it's not a problem
[10:44] <Hoxzer> strange I can't acces to my router when in linux mode
[10:44] <setite> here your solution methinks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59061&highlight=scroll+wheel
[10:45] <Hoxzer> but I can acces to it when in windows
[10:45] <setite> Hoxzer wifi?
[10:45] <Hoxzer> wifi?
[10:45] <setite> haha if you ask then no.. nvm
[10:45] <jo_e> what programs should I be looking at to shrink my partitions?  I need to install windows xp for school and have to get a fat 32 partition on there.  i've just got a default partition table, so I think I have logical volumes.
[10:45] <zcat[1] > Is it wireless, ethernet, or USB connected?
[10:45] <Hoxzer> its normal nat/adsl 2 router
[10:45] <Trackilizer> So is should do: ln -s /media/hdb1/P2p/complete /home/user/Desktop?
[10:45] <setite> with what connectin to the pc
[10:46] <setite> ethernet cable? usb? wirelkess?
[10:46] <setite> wireless*
[10:46] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, check if you have your network properly configured in ubuntu
[10:46] <Trackilizer> That's the folder i'm trying to link to
[10:46] <BockBilbo> then try pinging to the router
[10:46] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, thats ok
[10:46] <BockBilbo> yes
[10:46] <setite> looks right to me Trackilizer
[10:46] <chavo> Trackilizer, you want a link on your desktop?
[10:46] <Trackilizer> Yes.
[10:46] <zcat[1] > BockBilbo: If it's a USB router it's gonna take a lot more work than just 'chec it's configured'
[10:46] <chavo> Trackilizer, ln -s /media/hdb1/P2p/complete /home/user/Desktop/
[10:46] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , i know
[10:46] <BockBilbo> he would need to configure the modules
[10:46] <setite> im prayign for the day i see an ubuntu bible at borders
[10:47] <chavo> don't forget the last /
[10:47] <BockBilbo> but. first.. check if its compatible
[10:47] <setite> usb routers are evil
[10:47] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:47] <LethAL-Rocks> I have one
[10:47] <Hoxzer> yeah I had wrong address
[10:47] <setite> evil.. pure evil
[10:47] <Trackilizer> No such file or directory
[10:47] <setite> only thing worse
[10:47] <BockBilbo> setite, perhaps ethernet UTP-5 cables are the best onw
[10:47] <setite> is a broadcom 54g internal wifi adaptor
[10:47] <BockBilbo> *ones
[10:47] <vbgunz> I would but an Ubuntu Guide... Not really wishing to dive into a hug book... Just a really good detailed and right to the point book
[10:47] <LethAL-Rocks> My mum's laptop has one
[10:47] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, have you mountet the partition?
[10:48] <Trackilizer> Yes.
[10:48] <Trackilizer> I'm in the folder right now.
[10:48] <setite> i would love a book that is detailed... but also makes it so i can learn ubuntu
[10:48] <setite> like for real
[10:48] <zcat[1] > yeah, USB sucks for so many reasons.. puts unfiltered internet way to close to the WIndows kernel for a start; adds stupid overhead, makes things depend on all kinds of extra drivers..
[10:48] <bitkrom> whats this business about eu rejecting software patents. whats that mean
[10:48] <setite> so i knew what ln -s meant
[10:48] <BockBilbo> do ls /media/hdb1/P2p/complete
[10:48] <vbgunz> so far Ubuntu Breezy on my pc is really fast and really nice... I like it
[10:48] <setite> fast?
[10:48] <BockBilbo> setite, the best thing to learn ubuntu is to use it
[10:48] <setite> BockBilbo yes and no
[10:48] <[Chameleon] > setite: I know the guy (Chris Negus) that writes the RedHat/Fedora Bibles... I'll email him about doing one for Ubuntu.
[10:49] <vbgunz> oh another thing about the latest updates is Ubuntu seemed to throw in a splash boot image... It does look better
[10:49] <Trackilizer> It shows me all the files in that folder.
[10:49] <setite> BockBilbo - ive learned... but i dont know wtf im doing half the time.. jsut that it works
[10:49] <BockBilbo> why not setite ?
[10:49] <BockBilbo> setite, how long have you been using linux?
[10:49] <Madpilot> good night, all. need sleep...
[10:49] <bitkrom> eu patents in what context?
[10:49] <chavo> Trackilizer, did you substitute your user name for "user" in the command?
[10:49] <vbgunz> GN Mad
[10:49] <pinucset> im compiling blender and at final i've to write scons and scons release? Ubuntu says me : bash: scons: command not found
[10:49] <pinucset> whats the matter?
[10:50] <vbgunz> im about to test a DVD with Breezy... I hope it just works...
[10:50] <setite> off and on for a while... ive had ubuntu in one form of another since warty was final for around 3 months
[10:50] <setite> i dotn wanna do the math
[10:50] <zcat[1] > ./scons if it's in the current directory
[10:50] <Trackilizer> Chavo, where?
[10:50] <pinucset> um
[10:50] <vbgunz> Dave Chapelle Season 2 Disc 3
[10:50] <vbgunz> ;)
[10:50] <BockBilbo> mm setite, almost 9 months
[10:50] <setite> but like i look online to find what i want to do... but rarely is it described what does what... like ln... i dunno what that is.. because i asked i know what -s is...
[10:51] <zcat[1] > setite: man ls
[10:51] <BockBilbo> so well, just keep using it, and everytime you need to do something, youll learn about it
[10:51] <vbgunz> I got a question... anyone know how to eject the CD/DVD manually? Instead of always having to unmount it first... Is there a way to press the little button and simply eject it?
[10:51] <BockBilbo> its better to learn practicing that reading xD
[10:51] <setite> yea i can do that... but i want a book...... so i cant wait for one... becuase i hate man pages
[10:51] <zcat[1] > two most useful commands for learning Linux; apropos and man. Learn to use them.
[10:51] <BockBilbo> mmm and what about google?
[10:51] <BockBilbo> xD
[10:51] <BockBilbo> there are lots of howtos
[10:51] <LethAL-Rocks> vbgunz: I think autofs will auto-unmount things after a certain time
[10:51] <setite> BockBilbo - thats an opinion... i do best learnign little things when i have a book in front of me... its what i prefert
[10:52] <setite> howtos spoonfeed
[10:52] <BockBilbo> xD
[10:52] <Trackilizer> Chavo, that was the problem.
[10:52] <Trackilizer> Thank's alot
[10:52] <setite> and they are great.. a blessing even... but i liek to knwo what im doing too
[10:52] <zcat[1] > Yeah, some people are best with books. I can only learn stuff by doing it!
[10:52] <Trackilizer> Just worked.
[10:52] <BockBilbo> setite, do you know the ubuntu.guide?
[10:52] <vbgunz> google is a great learning guide
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !tell ShortDogg about synaptic
[10:52] <Trackilizer> I forgot to change "user".
[10:52] <setite> yea thats the best blessing/curse
[10:52] <chavo> sure, no problem
[10:52] <Trackilizer> Thank's again.
[10:52] <chavo> any time
[10:52] <vbgunz> thanks lethal! how would I put that in? "sudo autofs"?
[10:52] <setite> it gets teh job done... but when im done its like a bunch of voodoospeak
[10:53] <setite> i dont know what it did... i mean i know... but i want to know what each piece of syntax means...
[10:53] <zcat[1] > O'reilly has heaps of books you can download covering various OSS software..
[10:53] <zcat[1] > and even more you can buy :)
[10:53] <setite> yea the o'reillys are good... they need an ubuntu one...
[10:53] <setite> or a debian one
[10:53] <vbgunz> lethal, I am told autofs is an unknown command
[10:53] <LethAL-Rocks> The package
[10:53] <Badcel> hi, how can I find out, which tuner is present on my tv - card?
[10:53] <setite> if the debian one would be accurate enough
[10:53] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo apt-get install autofs
[10:53] <setite> but im dont burning kubuntui.... be back when its installed
[10:54] <[Chameleon] > setite_installin: I just sent that email to Chris Negus. We'll see what he says. :)
[10:54] <vbgunz> I really don't like long books... Just straight to the point books... Like the unofficial guide... If that author expanded that guide by a few more pages it would probably be the most valued Ubuntu guide in the world...
[10:54] <LethAL-Rocks> Badcel: I have no idea
[10:54] <BockBilbo> well, in my opinion the best way to learn about ubuntu is to use it and "play" whith it..
[10:54] <vbgunz> oh ok
[10:54] <LethAL-Rocks> I agree with BockBilbo on that :P
[10:54] <vbgunz> one sec
[10:55] <BockBilbo> LethAL-Rocks, :)
[10:55] <BockBilbo> ive been using linux for 18 months and ive learnt a lot
[10:56] <LethAL-Rocks> I've been using it for about 2 days and I've learnt a lot as well :P
[10:56] <LethAL-Rocks> Well... I have used it before
[10:56] <Hoxzer> Can totem use .sub files?
[10:56] <LethAL-Rocks> But without internet... doesn't count :P
[10:56] <Hoxzer> so?
[10:56] <BockBilbo> LethAL-Rocks, lol....  an OS w/o internet sucks
[10:56] <Hoxzer> ...
[10:57] <cevizoglu> anyone ever lost their hard drive by writing to a hfs+ partition from hoary?
[10:57] <zcat[1] > "the network is the computer"
[10:57] <LethAL-Rocks> I know, I'd been distro-hopping to get on on the net
[10:57] <LethAL-Rocks> one on*
[10:57] <LethAL-Rocks> And then I see an update to speedtouchconf
[10:57] <cevizoglu> I'm considering writing to my hfs+ partition a lot, not sure how safe that would be
[10:57] <Hoxzer> aargh
[10:57] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:58] <vbgunz> Autofs unmounts an unused mount after a certain period of time... Not exactly what I am looking for... Nice find though Lethal, thanks!
[10:58] <Hoxzer> can't I get a answer?
[10:58] <Hoxzer> :E
[10:58] <vbgunz> whats the Q?
[10:58] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , mm i dont agree in that metaphore...
[10:58] <Hoxzer> tell me some mediaplayer for ubuntu that can use .sub files
[10:58] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, try mplayer
[10:58] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[10:58] <Hoxzer> ok...
[10:58] <Myrtti> Hoxzer: VLC
[10:58] <BockBilbo> or xine
[10:59] <Myrtti> I think
[10:59] <BockBilbo> the 3 of them are great
[10:59] <Myrtti> <3 VLC
[10:59] <zcat[1] > any computer that's not on the net feels kinda 'lost' to me
[10:59] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , to me too xD but they are not the same... xD
[11:00] <BockBilbo> (i guess im saying that because saying that a comp and the net is the same is like messing my college degree with computer sciences..")
[11:00] <vbgunz> anyone know how to "GHOST" Ubuntu? So to make a new Scratch Recovery Disc?
[11:00] <BockBilbo> lol
[11:00] <BockBilbo> vbgunz, i do that with norton ghost
[11:00] <zcat[1] > use tar!
[11:00] <BockBilbo> but i'd like to know any gpl program for that
[11:01] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , you for real? tar? :S
[11:01] <zcat[1] > I use tar.
[11:01] <vbgunz> yeah, I was just about to say ignore that ;) I have Ghost and think it works with ext3
[11:02] <vbgunz> man I wish I could just pop in a dvd after a fresh install and have it play without having to download anything extra...
[11:02] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , and if you need to recover the whole unix partition, what do you do? insert a live cd, and untar the file?
[11:02] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: what zcat said
[11:02] <zcat[1] > Of course..
[11:02] <BockBilbo> mm
[11:02] <vbgunz> no files are ever locked? Like in Windows when you try you cannot copy some files... Linux doesn't lock files that will interfere with Tar?
[11:03] <zcat[1] > THe advantage with tar is that you can decide to move to feiserfs, or change the size of the partition.. or expand into a slightly different arrangement of partitions
[11:03] <Myrtti> tar is nice
[11:03] <Myrtti> tar is lovely
[11:03] <zcat[1] > *reiserfs
[11:03] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , and dont u use then gzip or smthing like that ?
[11:03] <zcat[1] > tar lets you do stuff that you can't do in ghost.
[11:03] <vbgunz> im on ext3... I heard it is the most stable and has been around for a while
[11:03] <zcat[1] > tar + bzip2 usually
[11:03] <Myrtti> tar can be configured to use gzip or bzip or what ever in addition
[11:04] <vbgunz> how about 7zip?
[11:04] <Myrtti> tar makes a package, gzip and bzip compress it
[11:04] <BockBilbo> Myrtti, i know that
[11:04] <zcat[1] > If I'm in a hurry I can tar now, and leave it compressing later.
[11:04] <Myrtti> I just love it
[11:04] <BockBilbo> mmm
[11:04] <BockBilbo> im about to upgrade to breezy
[11:04] <drummer87> hi, i need help.. having trouble with a 2.2gig tarball and burning it to a dvd
[11:04] <BockBilbo> i guess it is a nice idea to tar the linux partition
[11:04] <BockBilbo> xD
[11:04] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: personally, I use ext3 because it's more likely to be mounteable by other OS's, not because it's more stable than reiserfs, which there is no guarantee of at this point
[11:05] <zcat[1] > there are other OS's?
[11:05] <Myrtti> I've got a script in crontab doing my backups with tar -cvjf every other sunday at three in the morning
[11:05] <cevizoglu> zcat: yeah - gentoo, debian, yellow dog  :)
[11:05] <drummer87> the file just won't add to the list of files to burn in gnomebaker or graveman, i select it and press 'open' but nothing shows :(
[11:05] <vbgunz> ok here is my dilemma... I know I do not have to backup everything... I mean, I'd like to only backup my settings... My theme, my panels, my mail, my firefox profile, etc...
[11:05] <onkarshinde> What is meant by Unauthenticated package (as indicated by update manager)?
[11:05] <zcat[1] > I was thinking freebsd.. I think that can read resierfs though
[11:06] <vbgunz> In Windows XP, My Ubuntu partition has totally disappeared... Windows does not see it
[11:06] <zcat[1] > vbgunz: windows is blind
[11:06] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: are you using yaboot or grub?
[11:06] <BockBilbo> vbgunz, thats because you might have a ext3 partition for ubuntu which windows dont recognize it
[11:06] <zcat[1] > yaboot is for PPC isn't it?
[11:06] <BockBilbo> there is a program for reeding it
[11:06] <KillerKiwi2005> thunderbird question - is it possible to hook up the mime types to gnome some how?
[11:07] <Hoxzer> eh...
[11:07] <drummer87> anyone?? i'm very confused.. is there a file size limit for burning? or for ext3??
[11:07] <Myrtti> in addition I'd backup sources.list, xorg.conf, fstab .... what else...
[11:07] <cevizoglu> zcat: I think so, yes
[11:07] <vbgunz> yeah it is ext3... I assumed this was why Windows could not see it
[11:07] <Hoxzer> mpplayer crashed when I tried to play .avi file
[11:07] <Hoxzer> :E
[11:07] <vbgunz> but it doesn't show it and say something like "it is not formatted, do you wish to format it now?" prompt
[11:07] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, you might need the ffmpeg package
[11:07] <BockBilbo> or the gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[11:07] <GNU-GPL> drummer87, ehm.. for burning there is a limit (the size of the medium).
[11:07] <zcat[1] > windows can't read ext3 itself, there's some program (commander or something) which can read it in windows
[11:08] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: yes, windows does that
[11:08] <onkarshinde> vbgunz: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[11:08] <Hoxzer> BockBilbo: ok... but now that it crashed I can't close it and I dunno the name of the process
[11:08] <drummer87> GNU-GPL, that's fine though (4.7gig) .. so there isn't an individual file size limit either for burning or on ext3??
[11:08] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: windows would just **love** to erase your linux partition  ;)
[11:09] <vbgunz> I don't think I am interested in modifying Ubuntu from within Windows... The other way around but not Windows to Linux ;) Thanks, will bookmark the link for future reference!
[11:09] <vbgunz> ya I bet ;)
[11:09] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, do an xkill
[11:09] <onkarshinde> ubotu: ext2ifs is a file system driver that can read ext2 or ext3 partition in Windows. It can be downloaded at http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[11:09] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[11:09] <onkarshinde> !ext2ifs
[11:09] <ubotu> I guess ext2ifs is a file system driver that can read ext2 or ext3 partition in Windows. It can be downloaded at http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[11:09] <BockBilbo> otherwise, the name of the process should be mplayer
[11:09] <BockBilbo> or gmplayer
[11:09] <zcat[1] > Back in the 98 days was fun, windows fdisk had no idea how to remove a non-dos partition inside an extended partition. Just couldn't do it.
[11:10] <zcat[1] > .. so of course I always installed that way!
[11:10] <onkarshinde> Can someone help me? My update manager on Hoary says that updated kernel package is unauthenticated.
[11:11] <BockBilbo> onkarshinde, where is it taking the new kernel from?
[11:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have an spdif going from my box to my receiver, yet on many louder parts of songs it sounds like there's distortion.  it's as if something is amplifying the signal further before it's sent.  anyone know how to stop this and make sure the signal goes through absolutely untouched?
[11:11] <Vektram> it'll still install
[11:11] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: how long since you did a apt-get update or reload?
[11:11] <Hoxzer> BockBilbo: ok, I have still same problem :(
[11:11] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, which problem?
[11:11] <Hoxzer> mpplayer
[11:11] <vbgunz> anybody know how to make the terminal remember it's last position? I am trying to get it to open flush against the bottom of the screen but it keeps opening into a sort of default location
[11:11] <GNU-GPL> drummer87, ehm.. it depends on the kernel. However it is known to support above 2TIB files
[11:12] <Hoxzer> it still crashes
[11:12] <cevizoglu> onkarshinde: I get the same problem
[11:12] <zcat[1] > onkarshinde: usually that means you've added a repo that you don't have a pgp key to check the signatures of..
[11:12] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Did just now. BockBilbo: I am not sure. But I have no backport or extra repos enabled.
[11:12] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, have you taken a look to the restricted modules?
[11:12] <BockBilbo> zcat[1] , and hes trying to upgrade the kernel from a non official ubuntu repo
[11:13] <zcat[1] > possible solutions are; 1) add the gpg key or 2) ignore it
[11:13] <onkarshinde> zcat[1] : I understood it that way. But I have no unofficial repos enabled.
[11:13] <Hoxzer> Bock: what are restricted modules :D
[11:13] <cevizoglu> http://archive.ubuntu.com is an unofficial repo?
[11:13] <BockBilbo> onkarshinde, paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst to pastebin
[11:13] <BockBilbo> and give us the link to the pasted page
[11:13] <zcat[1] > well, in that case you don't have all the keys for the official repos I guess :)
[11:13] <BockBilbo> cevizoglu, no
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> !repos
[11:14] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> there your are Hoxzer
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:14] <GNU-GPL> read it
[11:14] <zcat[1] > It's not fatal; you can install unverified packages. It's just not a good idea.
[11:15] <BockBilbo> !Restricted Formats
[11:15] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:15] <BockBilbo> Hoxzer, check that
[11:15] <Hoxzer> GNU-GPL: read what?
[11:15] <Hoxzer> !Restricted Formats
[11:15] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : I've seen the authorisation warning when I haven't updated for a day or two
[11:15] <onkarshinde> BockBilbo: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2076
[11:15] <GNU-GPL> !tell Hoxzer about repos
[11:15] <GNU-GPL> that
[11:15] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[11:15] <corza> hey guys, how do i get into terminal these days?
[11:15] <vbgunz> yeah I don't like the idea of backports "unsupported" repositories... I wish it wasn't like that
[11:16] <BockBilbo> GNU-GPL but Hoxzer needs to install the restricted codecs from multiverese
[11:16] <onkarshinde> Pasted my sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2076
[11:16] <GNU-GPL> aah ok
[11:16] <vbgunz> Ctrl+Alt+F1 should get your to a terminal
[11:16] <GNU-GPL> my bad
[11:16] <BockBilbo> ok onkarshinde
[11:16] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[11:16] <BockBilbo> one sec
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > corza: in Breezy? It's in the System Tools menu
[11:16] <vbgunz> all the way through F6 I believe
[11:16] <cevizoglu> Chameleon: as it is in Hoary
[11:16] <corza> [Chameleon] : i dont see it
[11:16] <brownie17> i have a windows partition i want to mount, who feels like helping me
[11:16] <zcat[1] > are there any restricted codecs I can use on PPC mplayer? "OSXcodecs" perhaps?
[11:17] <BockBilbo> onkarshinde, see
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > cevizoglu: hehe, I was being sarcastic.
[11:17] <GNU-GPL> !mount
[11:17] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:17] <BockBilbo> coment the cdrom linke, and uncoment the deb-src lines
[11:17] <corza> brownie: www.ubuntuguide.org how to do it is one that site
[11:17] <vbgunz> brownie check the unofficial guide... Has several short to the point ways of mounting your Windows partitions
[11:17] <HappyFool> !windowsdrives
[11:17] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[11:17] <rob^> !ubuntuguide
[11:17] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > corza: dunno what to tell you. I see it in Accessories and System Tools on my Breezy box.
[11:17] <GNU-GPL> corza, DO NOT ADVERTISE UBUNTUGUIDE here
[11:17] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:18] <BockBilbo> is this inke right ? deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[11:18] <corza> GNU-GPL: lol why?
[11:18] <rob^> corza, see above ^
[11:18] <GNU-GPL> just don't
[11:18] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:18] <corza> okay
[11:18] <corza> well it worked for me anyway
[11:18] <LethAL-Rocks> That should be 'Because ubotu said so'
[11:18] <vbgunz> I believe the Ubuntu guide has great use... It really doesn't need to explain anything when a person already knows exactly what they want
[11:18] <onkarshinde> BockBilbo: I don't suppose that will solve my problem. Of course updated kernel won't come from sources. And that link is Indian mirror of repos
[11:18] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, no because it's a democratic opinion
[11:19] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[11:19] <rob^> I'm sure people don't read what ubotu says
[11:19] <Hoxzer> GNU-GPL: I know how to add repos? :D
[11:19] <LethAL-Rocks> If you do so insist
[11:19] <concept10> the ubuntu guide needs 'What is...' section.
[11:19] <zcat[1] > because simple walkthroughs without an explanation doesn't teach anyone how ubuntu works or how to solve their own problems in the future
[11:19] <vbgunz> it's short and to the point and I do agree Ubuntu should ship with a very specific help guide
[11:19] <Hoxzer> I have no problem with that
[11:19] <GNU-GPL> !tell Hoxzer about repos
[11:19] <GNU-GPL> read it :)
[11:19] <HappyFool> vbgunz: there will be something like that for breezy
[11:19] <rob^> ubotu tell vbgunz about ubuntuguide
[11:20] <Hoxzer> Read
[11:20] <GNU-GPL> so now you know
[11:20] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:20] <rob^> maybe I should make it more obvious
[11:20] <GNU-GPL> *change sources.list accordingly*
[11:20] <zcat[1] > !tell me about ubuntuguide
[11:20] <dfeed> Hi everyone. I get some kind of invalid signature error in Synaptic: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security ...Something I should worry about?
[11:21] <Hoxzer> Gnu: I did that when I installed ubuntu :D
[11:21] <popey> hmm, I have installed two SATA disks as sda and sdb and setup LVM on them. It all worked fine, had an xfs fs on it, and copied files to it. since the reboot it's now not working. there is no /dev/storage/media
[11:21] <popey> any ideas anyone?
[11:21] <corza> argh, just refreshing myself on linux i've forgotten howto quickly restart x
[11:21] <corza> anyone feel like reminding me lol
[11:21] <popey> sudo lvscan gives "No volume groups found"
[11:21] <HappyFool> corza: maybe ctl-alt-backspace ?
[11:21] <LethAL-Rocks> corza: logout and press ctrl-altb-backspace
[11:21] <popey> corza: CTRL+ALT+backspace
[11:21] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, is you did that, you should know the drill (even with strange repos)...
[11:21] <corza> kk thanks
[11:21] <GNU-GPL> it's all the same
[11:21] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:21] <popey> LethAL-Rocks: you don't need to logout
[11:21] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh... :P
[11:22] <[Chameleon] > true, you don't need to
[11:22] <Hoxzer> But my problem is that mpplayer crashes when I try to play .avi's
[11:22] <[Chameleon] > though, if you want to save your session, you can do so when logging out
[11:22] <LethAL-Rocks> I thought it was a good idea that
[11:22] <vbgunz> man... I could understand how some people might feel the need to explain things to some people but for those of us who already know exactly what they want don't need to bother with reading why we want it... We just want to do it and the unofficial guide "rightly named" does that precisely... Please don't offset the author. His work is very valuable for people like me who appreciate getting right to the point...
[11:22] <LethAL-Rocks> oh
[11:22] <thoreauputic> popey: not a bad idea though, if you need to save your session
[11:22] <[Chameleon] > yeah
[11:22] <LethAL-Rocks> I don't...
[11:22] <hotte-> hi why is my nvmixerscreen and my teamspeak screen black? http://www.imgload.org/host/1126429171/Bildschirmfoto.png
[11:23] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyway, I have a problem again
[11:23] <rob^> ubotu no ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based off ubuntuguide will be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:23] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[11:23] <LethAL-Rocks> Point2Play still can't find Cedega
[11:23] <rob^> !faq
[11:23] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[11:23] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, ehm.. did you read the manual? did you do every step?
[11:24] <LethAL-Rocks> Erm... no :P
[11:24] <popey> no lvm experts out there?
[11:24] <vbgunz> I didn't see the guide before... I just got Breezy and this is new to me
[11:24] <LethAL-Rocks> I thought installing both would work ;)
[11:24] <rob^> ubotu no ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based off ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:24] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[11:24] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, there's your answer
[11:24] <cevizoglu> what's wrong with this sources.list:   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2077
[11:24] <corza> umm yeah, i just changed some stuff for resolution in my xorg.conf file.. i dont think it worked
[11:25] <[Chameleon] > rob^: very nice FAQ. I might actually use it one day.
[11:25] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, cedega (legal license) works fine (incl point2play)
[11:25] <corza> i put "1280x1024" in front of all of them and changed my refresh rate to 60-85..
[11:25] <candlelight> just now someone said recovery mode doesn't ask for passwd, I tried mine and it asked for root passwd, anyone know why?
[11:25] <hotte-> http://www.imgload.org/host/1126429171/Bildschirmfoto.png why it is black?
[11:25] <rob^> thanks [Chameleon] 
[11:25] <HappyFool> cevizoglu: you may wish to add the hoary-updates and hoary-security repositories
[11:25] <vbgunz> corza what video card you have? Intel i810?
[11:25] <HappyFool> cevizoglu: see here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 for an example
[11:26] <GNU-GPL> hotte-, seems like your xorg config is missing something
[11:26] <thoreauputic> candlelight: you didn't get a # prompt? (that's wht it does here)
[11:26] <rob^> grr
[11:26] <GNU-GPL> or a bad install of the applications
[11:26] <corza> vbgunz: i'm using a nvidia 6200
[11:26] <rob^> ubotu no ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:26] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[11:26] <cevizoglu> HappyFool: will do, thx  :)
[11:26] <hotte-> GNU-GPL:  what?
[11:26] <setite> woot kubuntu\
[11:26] <GNU-GPL> hotte-, what what?
[11:26] <setite> its good to be back
[11:26] <corza> setite: ubuntu ftw
[11:27] <GNU-GPL> hi setite !
[11:27] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:27] <hotte-> GNU-GPL: what u mean?
[11:27] <candlelight> thoreauputic, no, I didn't, it says either enter a root passwd, or press Ctrl -D, which continue to level 2 then finally gnome
[11:27] <[Chameleon] > setite: wb
[11:27] <setite> ftw?
[11:27] <corza> for the win
[11:27] <thoreauputic> candlelight: hmm
[11:27] <setite> haha nah kubuntu
[11:27] <vbgunz> ahh, I wish I could help... I had a problem with getting resolution working on an i810... after a few shots with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" I got it right and everything worked
[11:27] <thoreauputic> candlelight: don't know why then
[11:27] <corza> lol gnome ftw
[11:27] <GNU-GPL> hotte-, do you know what xorg means?
[11:27] <vbgunz> you can check that out if all else fails
[11:27] <setite> never... KDE KO
[11:27] <[Chameleon] > setite, corza: heh, I thought corza meant WTF backwards
[11:28] <hotte-> GNU-GPL: yeah sure i know but i dont know what is wrong
[11:28] <setite> me too [Chameleon] 
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > :>
[11:28] <corza> lol
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > FTWombat
[11:28] <candlelight> thoreauputic, the recovery mode is choosing the kernel - recovery right?
[11:28] <GNU-GPL> hotte-, ok, just checking
[11:28] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:28] <cevizoglu> huh?  what does ftw stand for?
[11:28] <cevizoglu> heh
[11:28] <setite> dvd on 64
[11:28] <cevizoglu> I don't want to know
[11:28] <setite> oh no i need to mount and get mp3 first
[11:28] <setite> !backport
[11:28] <ubotu> backport is, like, see !backports
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > setite: hey, don't think you saw my message to you cuz you left, but I emailed Chris Negus about doing an Ubuntu Bible.
[11:28] <setite> !backports
[11:28] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:29] <thoreauputic> candlelight: it's been a while since I tried it, but I seem to recall you choose "recovery" in the boot menu
[11:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Ok, I've got p2p working now, how can I use it with ISOs?
[11:29] <vbgunz> the only reason I turned away from all distros which shipped with KDE was because it just seemed overwhelming OR maybe it was just the distros I played with but I just didn't like it... I liked Ubuntu because it was right to the point and simple
[11:29] <setite> thanks [Chameleon]  .. i wonder... its so popular that im sure something is in the works
[11:29] <thoreauputic> candlelight: you hit <esc> to get the menu
[11:29] <GNU-GPL> ehm the entry for !backport is very kiddy like language
[11:29] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:29] <candlelight> thoreauputic, yup, I chose recovery from the menu, even tried single user mode
[11:29] <setite> !extras
[11:29] <ubotu> extras is probably For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > setite: if there is something already started, Chris might know about it... otherwise, he might be interested in doing it.
[11:29] <setite> !hoary-extras
[11:29] <ubotu> I guess hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:29] <thoreauputic> candlelight: it's a mystery then ;)
[11:30] <thoreauputic> candlelight: to me anyway
[11:30] <vbgunz> fellas thanks for eveything!
[11:30] <vbgunz> im tired and need some sleep
[11:30] <setite> oh no i dotn have synaptic
[11:30] <vbgunz> im on eastern time :O
[11:30] <setite> ok thats step 1
[11:30] <cevizoglu> GNU-GPL: it's just asking you to see !backports
[11:31] <candlelight> thoreauputic, ok.. I'll see if I can find out, need to compile a kernel to include reiserfs anyway
[11:31] <cdc> anyone here using cedega fro breezy badger?
[11:31] <setite> thats one thing kubuntu needs... synaptic.. kynaptic is evil
[11:31] <setite> !binary
[11:31] <ubotu> setite: I don't know
[11:31] <setite> !nvidia
[11:31] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:32] <cdc> anyone here using cedega for breezy badger
[11:32] <GNU-GPL> cdc, yes
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> no problems here
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> works fine
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:33] <cdc> GNU what file you got for cedega
[11:33] <cevizoglu> !privmsg
[11:33] <ubotu> privmsg is, like, you can private message me to ask multiple questions without flooding the channel. /msg ubotu topic-to-ask
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> the most recent one..
[11:33] <cdc> i have here point2play-2.0.3.tgz?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> candlelight: ah - have you set up a root account?
[11:33] <cdc> i have here point2play-2.0.3.tgz.
[11:33] <setite> hey how can i make /msg nickserv identify password run automatically
[11:33] <setite> and i get the nvidia logo now...
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> cdc i took the .deb files
[11:34] <cevizoglu> setite: depends on which irc client you're using
[11:34] <zcat[1] > nvidia logo == drivers are loading
[11:34] <setite> cdc your still not usingthe deb
[11:34] <cdc> GNU ok can you teach how to install if ever i got that
[11:34] <cdc> forgot it earlier
[11:34] <setite> zcat[1] : i know... earlier i was saying that i never had it... it was the way i installed... it seems that the auto editing of xorg has it.. the manual way doesnt add the logo
[11:35] <setite> cevizoglu: do you know how on Konversation?
[11:35] <candlelight> thoreauputic, it's currently passwd -l
[11:35] <cevizoglu> setite: unfortunately, no
[11:35] <zcat[1] > Yeah, you have to change nv to nvidia .. the package does that for you, the nvidia binary installer doesn't
[11:35] <tear> I'm having problems getting my java to work on firefox
[11:35] <GNU-GPL> cdc, dpkg --install file.deb
[11:35] <brownie17> !windowsdrives
[11:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[11:36] <thoreauputic> candlelight: I seem to recall the default root prompt is a hack for sudo: possibly having a root account disables it?
[11:36] <setite> why a script
[11:36] <candlelight> thoreauputic, nope, I mean I've locked the root a/c
[11:36] <setite> editing the fstab is so simple
[11:36] <setite> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28automaticallymount%29
[11:37] <Bockbilbo> hello
[11:37] <GNU-GPL> hi
[11:37] <thoreauputic> candlelight: I understand that: I mean if it knows a root pass exists perhaps it doesn't do the default behaviour
[11:37] <Bockbilbo> im back... i had a problem with my ipw2200 module.. i had to recompile it
[11:37] <deufo> hi peeps, after using the ubuntu suspend in /etc/acpi/ i get no networking or wireless after resume
[11:37] <setite> omfg now im getting frustrated... maybe installing kubuntu over ubuntu was better
[11:38] <Bockbilbo> what happened with onkarshine?
[11:38] <Bockbilbo> *onkarshinde
[11:38] <zcat[1] > If you need to get to root, append "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel parameters, "mount / -o remount,rw" at the resulting root shell, edit /etc/shadow and remove the password :*: then remount r/o again before you reboot.. then you can log in as root with no password (and the first thing you should do is set one!)
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Bockbilbo: what do you mean?
[11:38] <setite> somebody altered thsi wiki
[11:38] <Bockbilbo> thoreauputic, i was helping him out with his repos when i got disconnected
[11:39] <Bockbilbo> and now he isnt
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ah
[11:39] <HappyFool> zcat[1] : isn't that what recovery mode is for?
[11:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyony know why Install on p2p does nothing?
[11:39] <setite> NeilTallim i hate you.. the wiki was better as it was
[11:39] <zcat[1] > Not if recovery mode asks for a root password and you don't have one.. :)
[11:39] <HappyFool> ah. that could be a problem
[11:39] <brownie17> can someobody please give me a hand with the "winmac_fstab" script?
[11:40] <mpq> haven't been in here in a while
[11:40] <tear> anyone had problems when installing java runtime?
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: we can try; what happens when you try to run it?
[11:40] <mpq> figure, I'm getting a mac tomorrow, why not install linux on my laptop and free myself of the red(mond) menace?
[11:40] <zcat[1] > I set up a PPC for my kids, a few days later I wanted to add some stuff for them and found they'd changed both their passwords. I had no way of logging in. It took me more than an hour to hack root :)
[11:40] <setite> shit imma get gedit.. kate is being retarded
[11:40] <deufo> hi peeps, after using the ubuntu suspend in /etc/acpi/ i get no networking or wireless after resume
[11:41] <Hoxzer> :E
[11:41] <brownie17> HappyFool, it tells me in the script, not ot run it, but to save it to desktop and tep "sudo bash winmac_fstab", i do so and it tells me that "winmac_fstab" does not exist
[11:41] <Hoxzer> ...
[11:41] <setite> bronie
[11:41] <setite> cd Desktop
[11:41] <setite> then try
[11:41] <mpq> what the
[11:41] <mpq> how do I get a mouse driver?
[11:41] <mpq> my mouse doesn't work right
[11:41] <cevizoglu> zcat: why didn't you just add a privileged account for yourself?  having root enabled adds additional security holes
[11:42] <HappyFool> brownie17: as setite has said, you first need to change to the Desktop directory at the command line
[11:42] <mpq> I went on the synaptics website but they only seem to have windows drivers
[11:42] <GNU-GPL> mpq, what type of mouse is it?
[11:42] <Bockbilbo> Hoxzer, did you fix your prob?
[11:42] <cevizoglu> zcat: or the potential for security holes
[11:42] <mpq> a laptop touchpad
[11:42] <brownie17> setite, you did it :) setite <----- pat on back
[11:42] <mpq> hence synaptics
[11:42] <setite> np.. with linux... its the little things....
[11:42] <setite> it assumes nothign
[11:42] <setite> not even case
[11:42] <zcat[1] > Add how? I couldn't log in and the OldWorld PPC's don't boot plain and simple. I had to juggle kernels and initrd from the live CD, then figure out what modules I needed..
[11:42] <Belutz> HappyFool: can I pm you for a minute?
[11:42] <setite> everythign is case sensitive
[11:43] <HappyFool> Belutz: sure
[11:43] <mpq> zcat[1] : what is PPC anyway? I'm curious
[11:43] <LethAL-Rocks> PowerPC
[11:43] <zcat[1] > MAC PowerPC
[11:43] <mpq> really?
[11:43] <mpq> I thought it was something else linux-related
[11:43] <emile> is there allready an ubuntu patch for this firefox vurnability? (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307259)?
[11:43] <brownie17> HappyFool, there should be an option in the right click to open a terminal in that directory, do you know what i'm saying? do you know a script or a tweak to do this?
[11:43] <mpq> how do I install mouse drivers so the mouse doesn't go crazy?
[11:44] <zcat[1] > Getting a beige Mac to boot linux is a bit of a trick
[11:44] <GNU-GPL> mpq, i don't know touchpads, but your best bet will be in the xorg configuration file. change the entry for the mouse part (device)
[11:44] <mpq> the what
[11:44] <cevizoglu> zcat: I don't mean on a system that you have to hack in advance, but one you plan on having access to in the future
[11:44] <HappyFool> brownie17: i know what you mean, but no, i don't how to do that
[11:44] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok
[11:44] <zcat[1] > I didn't expect the kids to change passwords :)
[11:44] <Bockbilbo> i gotta go
[11:44] <GNU-GPL> mpq, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <cevizoglu> s/in advance/on emergency
[11:44] <Bockbilbo> im upgrading to breezy
[11:44] <zcat[1] > I didn't think they even knew how!
[11:44] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : smart kids ;)
[11:44] <Bockbilbo> bye
[11:44] <zcat[1] > too damn smart
[11:44] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:45] <vrln> hm, if the final release date is october 13th, does this mean xorg 6.9/7.0 is not going to make breezy?
[11:45] <brownie17> does anyone know a way i might be able to somehow tweak in an option that opens a termninal in the directory i am in, when i right click? if you do not understand what i mean, then say so
[11:45] <setite> !hoary-extras
[11:45] <ubotu> methinks hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:45] <mpq> what do I do with xorg
[11:45] <robotgeek> mpq: do u want the synaptics driver for a apple laptop?
[11:45] <mpq> no
[11:45] <mpq> HP
[11:45] <thoreauputic> vrln: feature freeze is already on
[11:45] <thoreauputic> I believe
[11:45] <mpq> but the synaptics website only has windows drivers
[11:45] <vrln> they have a final release in october too
[11:45] <mpq> do apple laptops even use synaptics touchpads anymore?
[11:45] <vrln> oh, that's a shame, exa would have been nice :)
[11:45] <candlelight> zcat[1] , wouldn't chrooting into it also works?
[11:45] <GNU-GPL> brownie17, i don't understand
[11:45] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:46] <robotgeek> mpq: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics
[11:46] <robotgeek> mpq: i have an old one :)
[11:46] <mpq> hm
[11:46] <chavo> brownie17, using nautilus?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> brownie17: google nautilus scripts - there is such a thing
[11:46] <brownie17> GNU-GPL, so when you are going through you're file system in the window veiwer, you right click and there is an option to open a terminal window, that is inside the directroy you were in when you right clicked
[11:46] <brownie17> thoreauputic, ok
[11:46] <mpq> xorg-driver-synaptics is already the newest version
[11:46] <brownie17> chavo, i think so, it tells me so when i log on
[11:47] <chavo> brownie17, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[11:47] <robotgeek> mpq: hmm, you have a synaptics touchpad that does not work?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> brownie17: or just do as I do and use rox-filer instead of nautilus ;-)
[11:47] <mpq> it doesn't work right
[11:47] <mpq> the cursor moves too fast
[11:47] <mpq> and the mouse preferences don't do anything
[11:47] <candlelight> zcat[1] , but thanks for your info I learn something new, will try out later
[11:47] <brownie17> thoreauputic, , interesting, what is better about rox filer?
[11:48] <zcat[1] > Anyhow, I installed breezy on the mac today.. wiki'd it all up too!!
[11:48] <thoreauputic> brownie17: quick, small, configurable
[11:48] <mpq> what's with the firefox icon
[11:48] <thoreauputic> brownie17: but less obvious/user friendly than nautilus
[11:48] <GNU-GPL> mpq, ?
[11:48] <robotgeek> mpq: okay, i think u might need to mess with the xorg settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though i dunno what to do with it.
[11:48] <thoreauputic> brownie17: until you get used to it anyway
[11:49] <mpq> the icon is different in this version of firefox
[11:49] <thoreauputic> mpq: trademark issues
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > mpq: the globe is the same globe that was in Hoary
[11:49] <mpq> I'm on hoary now
[11:49] <candlelight> zcat[1] , hey I'm considering mac notebook, so Ubuntu can be installed easily?
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > mpq: oh.... many of us are on Breezy.
[11:49] <GNU-GPL> [Chameleon] , not everyone is a breezy user
[11:49] <mpq> heh
[11:49] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > GNU-GPL: apparently. :)
[11:49] <mpq> I wanted the stable version
[11:49] <zcat[1] > trademark what? If you're using the icon in conjunction with the firefox browser surely that's OK?
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > mpq: Breezy is suprisingly stable. But Hoary is great.
[11:50] <thoreauputic> mpq: the Mozilla Foundation has rights to the FF icon
[11:50] <setite> who has ubuntu64
[11:50] <robotgeek> candlelight: yeah, if you don't have too new notebook
[11:50] <zcat[1] > candlelight: on a New World mac it's easy..
[11:50] <mpq> I remember how much it screwed up when I went from warty to hoary
[11:50] <setite> i forgot the package to get dvd playback on it
[11:50] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, so? what gives... it's part of the package (original)
[11:50] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[11:50] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : asj=k the Mozilla Foundation..
[11:50] <setite> !dvd
[11:50] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[11:50] <chavo> This box has been going strong since warty
[11:50] <thoreauputic> *ask
[11:51] <chavo> I installed about 1 month before hoary came out
[11:51] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: no, the distro package is different fromthe original I guess
[11:51] <zcat[1] > one thing I still want to know; are there closed codecs for PPC like the w32codecs?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : no
[11:51] <candlelight> cool... my first notebook is probably going to be a mac then ;)
[11:51] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : w32codecs are x86 only
[11:52] <GNU-GPL> candlelight, nice!
[11:52] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:52] <zcat[1] > I would have thought porting OSX codecs would be even easier than Windows codecs
[11:52] <zcat[1] > porting/wrapping/whatever
[11:52] <mpq> I'm getting a mac tomorrow and I figured, instead of trashing the old laptop, why not install linux on it?
[11:52] <mpq> heh
[11:52] <Belutz> thoreauputic: may i pm you for a minute :)
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> zcat[1] : microsoft crap doesnt work real good on OSX, either
[11:52] <chavo> By the way, is there a command to clean up the apt archive folder
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Belutz: if it is a minute, yes :)
[11:52] <zcat[1] > it works on x86?!!
[11:53] <zcat[1] > sorry.. :)
[11:53] <johndarkhorse> zcat[1] : specifically m$ codecs
[11:53] <brownie17> where is the "/.gnome" folder?
[11:54] <GNU-GPL> brownie17, in your home
[11:54] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[11:54] <candlelight> mpq, yeah why not, I'm using k62-350 now
[11:54] <cevizoglu> so someone tell me if I got my sources.list right:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2078
[11:54] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i think ill stick with nautilus then, but d oyuo nkow where i can find the "/.gnome2" directory?
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: it's a hidden folder; i think Ctl+H switches viewing hidden folders on/off in nautilus
[11:54] <emile> brownie17: in ~
[11:54] <mpq> how do I slow down the mouse cursor
[11:54] <mpq> apart from that it works perfectly
[11:54] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, but just in "/"?
[11:54] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: in your homedir
[11:54] <thoreauputic> brownie17: in your home directory
[11:54] <GNU-GPL> brownie17, cd ~/,gnome will to the trick
[11:54] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:54] <brownie17> GNU-GPL,  than
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: no, in your home directory
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: Places -> Home Folder
[11:55] <GNU-GPL> i mean.. cd ~/.gnome
[11:55] <GNU-GPL> (on console that is)
[11:55] <zcat[1] > in a GUI filebrowser you have to tell it to show hidden files..
[11:55] <GNU-GPL> true
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, thoreauputic GNU-GPL , and how do i create a new script? i have some text i want to make into one
[11:55] <cdc> GNU wahts the command again?
[11:56] <zcat[1] > or just blindle enter ~/.gnome in the address bar even though you can't see it.
[11:56] <zcat[1] > *blindly
[11:56] <cdc> it just went up
[11:56] <GNU-GPL> cdc, dpkg --install file.deb
[11:56] <GNU-GPL> zcat[1] , i told that already
[11:56] <HappyFool> brownie17: File -> Create -> Empty Document ?
[11:56] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:57] <zcat[1] > you dodn't say 'address bar' :)
[11:57] <mpq> all right, I'm going to worry about the mouse later
[11:57] <GNU-GPL> hehehe.. smart ass!
[11:57] <GNU-GPL> :)
[11:57] <mpq> how do I get wireless working
[11:57] <cdc> GNu am at the user log
[11:57] <zcat[1] > yes!
[11:57] <cdc> do i have to go to root?
[11:57] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: take your txt file and run (in a terminal) chmod u+x filname
[11:58] <brownie17> HappyFool, how do i restart nautilus
[11:58] <GNU-GPL> cdc, my bad.. sorry.. yes.. sudo dpkg --install file.deb
[11:58] <brownie17> johndarkhorse, what will chmod u+x?
[11:58] <HappyFool> brownie17: um. restart nautilus?
[11:58] <HappyFool> brownie17: easiest is probably to logout and login
[11:59] <zcat[1] > reboot!!
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> brownie17: it will tell the system that your text file is now an executable object
[11:59] <snausages> brownie17, killall nautilus (i think)
[11:59] <youngcoder> hey guys and gals
[11:59] <shawnz> so no one has compiled transset-df on ubuntu before? :(
[11:59] <cdc> it just came up with an error
[11:59] <youngcoder> is there a good atlas program for ubuntu? l
[11:59] <snausages> i need some help - one of my packages is broken.
[11:59] <GNU-GPL> cdc, wich?
[11:59] <mpq> is there any way to get it to recognize the special keys at the top of the keyboard?
[11:59] <cdc> dpkg: error processing point2play_2.0.3_i386.deb (--install):
[11:59] <cdc>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:59] <brownie17> HappyFool, ARGH, the script option is there, but it doesn nothing~!
[12:00] <cdc> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:00] <cdc>  point2play_2.0.3_i386.deb
[12:00] <mpq> I want to map lock screen to the lock button
[12:00] <GNU-GPL> cdc, do not just copy paste the whole thing
[12:00] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[12:00] <shawnz> cdc, does `whereis point2play_2.0.3_i386.deb` give you any paths?
[12:00] <zcat[1] > hmm.. my keyboard has special keys too.. never thought about that
[12:00] <LethAL-Rocks> So does mine
[12:00] <enyc> *YAWNS
[12:00] <HappyFool> brownie17: script option is where?
[12:00] <GNU-GPL> cdc, where did you saved the point2play file?
[12:00] <cdc> shawns ill try
[12:01] <LethAL-Rocks> In winblows I map them to WinAMP controls :D
[12:01] <brownie17> HappyFool, in the right click menu
[12:01] <mpq> is there a way to get it to recognize the special keys?
[12:01] <cdc> desktop GNU
[12:01] <youngcoder> anyone know of a good atlas (world map) program for ubuntu?
[12:01] <mpq> I want an easy way to lock the screen
[12:01] <enyc> my keyboard .. is an IBM model M 1391406  long-lasting keyboard <g>
[12:01] <vrln> anyone tried beep-media-player-x on breezy?
[12:01] <pepperpot> anyone know where to find CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD in menuconfig?
[12:01] <zcat[1] > clickity click...
[12:01] <kairu0> i am running hoary 5.04. how can i upgrade to kubuntu 5.10?
[12:01] <HappyFool> brownie17: i'm afraid i'm not sure what you're talking about; i don't see any 'script' option in my right-click menu. You want to run a script ?
[12:01] <vrln> it has pretty high system requirements gtk/cairo wise, but breezy has them
[12:01] <cdc> GNU at the desktop
[12:02] <zcat[1] > they preferred keyboard of BOFH's everywhere..
[12:02] <candlelight> pepperpot, try the / key, then type your search term
[12:02] <zcat[1] > also useable as a LART
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> ok.. well then you need to do : sudo dpkg --install ~/DESKTOP/file.dev
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> err
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> file.dev
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> damnit..
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> file.deb
[12:02] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:02] <cdc> hehe
[12:02] <mpq> how do I enable a wireless card?
[12:02] <pepperpot> candlelight, thanks!
[12:02] <HappyFool> !wifi
[12:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:02] <HappyFool> maybe that will help?
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, that is what putting that script in the /.gnome2 directroy did, it wasn't ther for me before either. but the script doesnt work. what do you know about reading them? if i gave someone a pastebin, would they be able to tell me if it was something wrong with the script?
[12:02] <zcat[1] > hmm.. showkey looks useful
[12:03] <youngcoder> anyone know of a good world map program for ubuntu?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> hah - s/neter/enter
[12:03] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, right.. :)
[12:03] <HappyFool> brownie17: where'd you get the script from?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: *grin*
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> kairu0: install kubuntu-desktop NOW
[12:03] <brownie17> HappyFool, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=355910
[12:03] <pepperpot> candlelight, wow that's so useful
[12:03] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to get sound work in VLC?
[12:03] <pepperpot> candlelight, does xconfig have that too?
[12:03] <cdc> GNU it is done
[12:03] <candlelight> pepperpot, ;)
[12:03] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know why the Install button in Point2Play doesn't work?
[12:04] <cdc> waht should i do next it
[12:04] <kairu0> johndarkhorse, so i install kubuntu-desktop, remove ubuntu-desktop, and dist-upgrade?
[12:04] <candlelight> pepperpot, that I'm not sure, can try
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, you need to active point2play first.
[12:04] <zcat[1] > OK, I have scancodes.. now where do I put them?!!
[12:04] <LethAL-Rocks> active? huh?
[12:04] <HappyFool> brownie17: do you have aterm installed?
[12:04] <johndarkhorse> kairu0: no need to remove anything, unless you wish it so
[12:04] <johndarkhorse> kairu0: installing kubuntu now or later, will work either way
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, yes, you need to fill in your account details first, to activate the tool
[12:04] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[12:04] <brownie17> happyfool: ummm. i dunno!? is it the standard for hoary? (if so: yes) (if not: no)
[12:05] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh... lol
[12:05] <cdc> GNU what should i do next
[12:05] <LethAL-Rocks> Ah, that's better :)
[12:05] <HappyFool> brownie17: no
[12:05] <setite> hey i cant turn dma on.. what gives
[12:05] <HappyFool> brownie17: let me just tweak the script; i'll send you a working version
[12:05] <brownie17> HappyFool, can i edit the script to just use me default terminal cleint?
[12:05] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok
[12:05] <GNU-GPL> cdc, i take it you've installed cedega too?
[12:05] <johndarkhorse> HappyFool: what scripts are we handing out?
[12:05] <brownie17> setite: don't try to force it, DMA is potentially dangerous
[12:06] <HappyFool> johndarkhorse: a 'terminal here' script
[12:06] <cdc> i installed point2play first
[12:06] <snausages> should i install the breezy preview or 5.04? (i'm a newb, "switching" from windows)
[12:06] <HiddenFly> i upgraded to breezy, and now x.org server doesnt start up, any idea what would be wrong?
[12:06] <setite> how is it dangerous
[12:06] <johndarkhorse> HappyFool: isnt that available from gnome.org release notes for 2.12?
[12:06] <GNU-GPL> cdc, point2play is a frontend for cedega
[12:06] <brownie17> snausages, i'd stay with 5.04
[12:06] <GNU-GPL> you need cedega to
[12:06] <cdc> i have to install cedega first?
[12:06] <HappyFool> johndarkhorse: i don't know. and i, and i think brownie17, are running hoary which is gnome 2.10
[12:06] <johndarkhorse> HappyFool: for use with nautilus?
[12:06] <setite> how do i find the name of my dvd drive
[12:07] <cdc> GNU or i make it to follow
[12:07] <enyc> seti: what do you mean, the  make/model ?
[12:07] <GNU-GPL> cdc, it doesn't matter in wich order you install it.
[12:07] <johndarkhorse> HappyFool: you dont have right-click "terminal here" already?
[12:07] <enyc> seti: the  device name/node ?
[12:07] <cdc> GNU owright
[12:07] <GNU-GPL> cdc, install both packages
[12:07] <HappyFool> johndarkhorse: nope
[12:07] <cdc> thanks
[12:07] <mpq> stupid website
[12:07] <snausages> thanks. btw, how do i check the md5sum for my iso? on ubuntu, that is.
[12:07] <mpq> wants me to register to get the wireless driver
[12:07] <johndarkhorse> HappyFool: it was left out of breezy, but i have it in my hoary
[12:07] <zcat[1] > md5sum foo.iso
[12:08] <brownie17> johndarkhorse, it isn't standard in MY install of hoary
[12:08] <snausages> zcat[1] , "foo" being the name for the iso, yes?
[12:08] <enyc> setite: wakeup! ;-)
[12:08] <brownie17> HappyFool, need to go soon, you got that script?
[12:08] <zcat[1] > yeah
[12:08] <Rick|> hello...does anyone know howto add subs to an avi/vcd file?
[12:08] <setite> huh
[12:08] <snausages> zcat[1] , thanks... seems so simple.
[12:08] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:08] <zcat[1] > md5sum *.iso should also work..
[12:08] <setite> enyc: whats up?
[12:08] <snausages> ok heh
[12:08] <HappyFool> brownie17: yeah
[12:08] <setite> oh ya
[12:08] <enyc> set/last
[12:08] <setite> so i know what the device is named as
[12:08] <HappyFool> brownie17: just change the last line to read 'gnome-terminal' instead of 'aterm .....'
[12:09] <enyc> seti: aah erm...
[12:09] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: retry, reboot, reinstall ? The 3 Rs ? /me ducks and runs
[12:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: that is, 'exec gnome-terminal'
[12:09] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, *grin*
[12:09] <zcat[1] > I'm gonna go play with my extra buttons. g'night all
[12:09] <onkarshinde> How can I import gpg keys into apt-get for package checking?
[12:09] <ceriel> Hello. What am I doing wrong when a mounted filesystem refuses to change permission, even if chmod says everything went well?
[12:09] <setite> i found the dma issue... im supposed to add amd74xx above ide-cd on my /etc/modules
[12:09] <enyc> seti: im not sure if uvuntu puts in extra symlinks like /dev/cdrom and stuff... errr it susually /dev/hdc directly...
[12:09] <johndarkhorse> snausages: and if you read the md5sum manpage, you'll see what to do with those text files loaded with md5s in the root of a lot of FOSS CDs
[12:09] <mpq> argh
[12:09] <setite> ok...
[12:09] <mpq> broadcom is so useless
[12:09] <setite> brb
[12:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: also, make sure the file is in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts, and is executable
[12:10] <setite> mpq it is...
[12:10] <mpq> how do I get the driver for the wireless card
[12:10] <HappyFool> brownie17: to make it executable, right click on it, and choose properties -> permissions
[12:10] <setite> mpq: give up broadcom.. hop on ebay... 20 bucks will get you a netgear wa111
[12:10] <mpq> ...
[12:10] <Hoxzer> :D aaaaaaaaaaargh
[12:10] <Hoxzer> :D
[12:10] <mpq> I'm not replacing the wireless card in the computer
[12:10] <setite> mpq: broadcom what... 54g
[12:10] <kemik> !mic
[12:10] <ubotu> kemik: What?
[12:10] <mpq> yeah
[12:10] <Hoxzer> somebody help me with mplayer or VLC
[12:10] <GNU-GPL> it doesn't learn you anything that way
[12:10] <setite> haha i said the same thing mpq...
[12:10] <mpq> I know what kind of card it is but I don't know how to get the driver
[12:10] <onkarshinde> How can I import gpg keys into apt-get for package checking?
[12:10] <snausages> johndarkhorse, where would that page be?
[12:11] <setite> do you have windows installed
[12:11] <mpq> no
[12:11] <setite> oh
[12:11] <mpq> I wiped the hard drive to install this
[12:11] <setite> ok.. that makes it a little tougher
[12:11] <setite> ok gimme a sec to find the tutorial for you
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> snausages: open a terminal and type "man md5sum"
[12:11] <cyphase> what port(s) are h323 on?
[12:11] <snausages> johndarkhorse, thank you
[12:11] <onkarshinde> How can I import gpg keys into apt-get for package checking?
[12:13] <mpq> I did lspci
[12:13] <setite> well i have the same card in my lappy
[12:13] <mpq> it says it's a broadcom BCM4306 wireless card
[12:13] <mpq> so how do I get the driver
[12:13] <onkarshinde> Can someone help me?
[12:13] <setite> you need to install the bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys drivers with ndiswrapper
[12:13] <setite> what lappy
[12:13] <mpq> ze4900
[12:14] <setite> who makes that
[12:14] <snausages> johndarkhorse, when i have my iso verified, how should i go about burning it from ubuntu? just insert a blank cd, right-click the iso and select burn?
[12:14] <mpq> HP
[12:14] <Whistler> can anybody reccomend my a program to send sms via my mobile phone?
[12:14] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: sudo apt-key add  ( something like that)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: you will need to read the man I guess
[12:14] <johndarkhorse> snausages: whichever method works for you. i use k3b to burn discs
[12:15] <setite> do you have your driver disk?
[12:15] <mpq> how should I know
[12:15] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: You were right about the command
[12:15] <snausages> johndarkhorse, does that have any kind of verification system? and is that even needed, to make sure the iso and cd are ok?
[12:15] <mpq> it was probably on the windows disc
[12:15] <setite> do you have any of the hp discs... customized windows installer or a rescue disk
[12:15] <chavo> snausages, k3b will check the md5
[12:15] <cevizoglu> snausages: it's always a good idea to make sure the burn was good
[12:15] <mpq> maybe somewhere
[12:16] <setite> ok well search throught disk for a driver called bcmwl5.inf
[12:16] <setite> and use thsi tutorial
[12:16] <setite> http://www.gidforums.com/t-4390.html?page=1&pp=15
[12:16] <GNU-GPL> cyphase, that's a though one
[12:16] <Whistler> anybody knows can gnome phone manager use usb phones?
[12:16] <GNU-GPL> cyphase, it uses random ports (tcp and udp)
[12:16] <snausages> mhm, well, i burned a copy with nero on windows and it verified and everything but now i get a few minor errors when i try to install
[12:16] <setite> all the ones you will find are the same... you need to find the drivers on your disk or on the net... adn install it with ndiswrapper
[12:16] <setite> i warn you that you wont be able to scan for wifi networks
[12:17] <mpq> I know the network name
[12:17] <Hoxzer> AAaaaargh
[12:17] <setite> then you should be fine
[12:17] <Hoxzer> plz somebody help me to get sounds to VLC
[12:17] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: But I am having problem adding one key from in.archive.ubuntu.com for hoary-security. It sayd no valid OpenPGP data found.
[12:17] <cevizoglu> snausages: that's not necessarily related to the cd's integrity
[12:17] <setite> if you cant find the drivers ill look a little harder for them online...
[12:17] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: indeed an appropriate nick - don't IRC as root, please
[12:17] <johndarkhorse> snausages: the newest k3b has a md5 checksum it runs on the iso image b4 burning
[12:18] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: yes,yes,yes it will be magical
[12:18] <snausages> cevizoglu, then what could be the problem?
[12:18] <Whistler> anybody knows can gnome phone manager use usb phones?
[12:18] <snausages> johndarkhorse, thanks
[12:18] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: yeah i know it's a bad idea...
[12:18] <cevizoglu> snausages: which problems?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: so fix it please
[12:18] <mpq> I'm going to download N
[12:18] <mpq> I feel like playing it
[12:18] <f00li5h> say, anyone know why the mouse is going mad on my machine? i have one of them dell lattitudes with touchpad and nipple
[12:19] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: i have no intention of getting owned, so it's fine
[12:19] <snausages> cevizoglu, my ubuntu-desktop package is apparently broken.
[12:19] <f00li5h> GNU-GPL: people dont expect as much from me this way
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> right..
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:19] <Hoxzer> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARegh
[12:19] <Hoxzer> losing my mind
[12:19] <cevizoglu> snausages: in what way?  have you tried apt-get installing it?
[12:19] <f00li5h> GNU-GPL: you know much about mice and gdm?
[12:19] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, what's new?
[12:19] <f00li5h> cause this one seems to hate me
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> *kidding*
[12:20] <cevizoglu> snausages: on hoary or breezy?
[12:20] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: What is problem?
[12:20] <snausages> cevizoglu, yes i've tried, but it wants to fetch the package from cd. "ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp" needs to be reinstalled. it's hoary.
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> onkarshinde, he want sound enabled in vlc
[12:20] <GNU-GPL> +s
[12:21] <cevizoglu> snausages: it will only try to fetch from cd if your sources.list file has cd in it
[12:21] <setite> hey
[12:21] <Hoxzer> Onkarshinde: :D VLC doesn't play sounds of one movie
[12:21] <Hoxzer> and totem does
[12:21] <setite> anyone have an stereo with usb
[12:21] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: have you installed any sound plugin for vlc? Like vlc-plugin-esd or vlc-plugin-alsa
[12:21] <setite> i have a stereo that works via mp3
[12:21] <snausages> cevizoglu, how do i change that?
[12:21] <NiLz> hi, where can I get "Fixed" font for ubuntu, is there a .deb package which contains it?
[12:21] <setite> i wonder hopw i sould go about working that in windows
[12:21] <Hoxzer> however vlc plays sounds of anime series so its not totaly mute
[12:21] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: have you installed any sound plugin for vlc? Like vlc-plugin-esd or vlc-plugin-alsa
[12:21] <Whistler> anybody can reccomend an sms sending program usable with motorola phone?
[12:21] <Hoxzer> Onkar: yes
[12:21] <snausages> i tried, but it's read-only
[12:21] <cevizoglu> snausages: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line with the cd as source
[12:22] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: please pay attention - I would prefer not to have to take action but IRC ing as root is deprecated here
[12:22] <Hoxzer> it plays sounds but not this movie's
[12:22] <Hoxzer> ;/
[12:22] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: What type of movie is it?
[12:22] <GNU-GPL> Rick|, the only way i know of, is using the right player for it (when you open the move, also open the right sub)
[12:22] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: i'm on a CD
[12:22] <f00li5h> my environment is read only
[12:22] <Hoxzer> Onkar: .avi xvid
[12:22] <Rick|> GNU-GPL: but you cannot add them permanent?
[12:22] <setite> usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio
[12:22] <snausages> cevizoglu,  hehe i tried it the wrogn way
[12:22] <setite> does that mean it will work?
[12:22] <snausages> wrong*
[12:23] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: OK
[12:23] <GNU-GPL> Rick|, dunno, i'm not into illegal movies
[12:23] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:23] <snausages> cevizoglu, would i have to comment out the first line?
[12:23] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: can you give me suggestions as to the reason my mouse would hate me?
[12:23] <Rick|> hmm...:)
[12:23] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: which CD is this?
[12:23] <snausages> cevizoglu, it says deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[12:23] <f00li5h> hoary
[12:23] <mpq> I downloaded ndiswrapper but I don't know how to install it
[12:23] <cevizoglu> snausages: yes, the line with cdrom in it
[12:23] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: heh - not really
[12:23] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: Sorry no idea what can be wrong.
[12:23] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: he?
[12:24] <Whistler> anybody can recommend an sms sending program usable with motorola phone?
[12:24] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: right, the mouse thing. thanks
[12:24] <snausages> cevizoglu, how do i edit/comment it out? ;\
[12:24] <bobbyd> is there any voice command software for linux? I get RSI and I'd like to browse web pages by voice...
[12:24] <cevizoglu> snausages: put a "#" in the start of the line
[12:24] <f00li5h> snausages: go to the line and type I# escape :w
[12:25] <Hoxzer> Onkar: it must be something like AC3 sounds ...
[12:25] <cevizoglu> snausages: so it looks like #deb cdrom:[........
[12:25] <snausages> cevizoglu, yes but it won't allow me to do that
[12:25] <mpq> it closes the window when I open a folder
[12:25] <mpq> how do I get it to leave it open
[12:25] <f00li5h> snausages: as root, you should do everything as root (even irc, hugh, thoreauputic )
[12:25] <cevizoglu> snausages: what fooli5h said too
[12:26] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: a couple more zeros please
[12:26] <snausages> f00li5h, i fired up the root terminal
[12:26] <cevizoglu> snausages: except what he said about root
[12:26] <cevizoglu> snausages: using root is ill advised
[12:26] <cevizoglu> snausages: using sudo is much safer
[12:26] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: i'd have to say that it's just as safe... but i'm not going to argue
[12:27] <GNU-GPL> bobbyd, check: http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/speechrec.html
[12:27] <cevizoglu> f00li5h: you just did
[12:27] <cevizoglu> f00li5h: how ironic that you would say that when you are irc'd in here as root
[12:27] <f00li5h> <_< i never did
[12:27] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: yes, thoreauputic told me off about it just now
[12:27] <f00li5h> that's why i said it
[12:27] <snausages> cevizoglu, i didnt know i had to hit shift+i, thanks f00li5h
[12:28] <cevizoglu> f00li5h: it's not just your hard drive at stake when you're logged in here as root
[12:28] <f00li5h> snausages: any time
[12:28] <GNU-GPL> bobbyd, or check: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/software.html
[12:28] <mpq> broadcom doesn't even support the wireless card I have
[12:28] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: i know, processor time and all
[12:28] <mpq> I remember getting it to work once but I forgot what I did
[12:29] <Hoxzer> A.... Losing my mind :D
[12:29] <bobbyd> GNU-GPL, thanks
[12:29] <robotgeek_away> mpq: which wireless card
[12:29] <setite> omfg!!!!
[12:29] <GNU-GPL> bobbyd, hope this will help you in a direction
[12:29] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:29] <setite> my stereo works for ubuntu
[12:29] <snausages> cevizoglu, do i need to log out and back in after i edit the sources.list?
[12:29] <mpq> broadcom BCM4306
[12:29] <setite> even though the stereo says no connection...
[12:29] <f00li5h> tada
[12:29] <setite> the sound plays!!!
[12:29] <setite> woot
[12:30] <cevizoglu> snausages: you need to sudo apt-get update
[12:30] <GNU-GPL> nice
[12:30] <Stramash> mpq, use ndiswrapper
[12:30] <mpq> how
[12:30] <Stramash> i
[12:30] <mpq> I don't know how to install it
[12:30] <Stramash> oops
[12:30] <snausages> cevizoglu, its working.
[12:30] <f00li5h> anwyay, about mice ...
[12:30] <setite> now i just need to get dvds to work
[12:30] <mpq> and I don't have the driver
[12:30] <robotgeek> !ndiswrapper
[12:30] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:30] <mpq> and can't find it
[12:30] <robotgeek> mpq: read that link
[12:30] <setite> mpq: use that wiki
[12:30] <Stramash> goodle "ubuntu ndiswrapper"
[12:30] <corza> how do i change my boot sequence
[12:30] <setite> anyoen know a good way to work dvd in ubuntu64
[12:30] <f00li5h> corza: in your bios settings
[12:30] <corza> i mean of applications
[12:30] <f00li5h> corza: often delete or f10 when you're booting the machien up
[12:31] <corza> Boot Sequence of Applications when ubuntu is loading.
[12:31] <f00li5h> corza: ah, one of those
[12:31] <f00li5h> i've not got that far, because my mouse hates me
[12:31] <johndarkhorse> bbl
[12:31] <mpq> where do I get the driver
[12:31] <f00li5h> run x-session-manager i believe
[12:31] <corza> jap - i cant remember how to do it.. just switched back to ubuntu
[12:31] <corza> Thats it
[12:31] <snausages> cevizoglu, i fixed the broken package and am updating now... one question, though: could it be that my cd is screwed up?
[12:32] <Stramash> mpq, use the windows driver from the disc
[12:32] <robotgeek> mpq: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:32] <mpq> I don't have the disc
[12:32] <cevizoglu> snausages: it's a possibility, yes
[12:32] <candlelight> corza, under /etc/rc*.d, those links have a number attached, are the boot sequence
[12:32] <setite> !akode
[12:32] <ubotu> setite: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:32] <snausages> cevizoglu, thats why i wanted to burn a new one.
[12:32] <mpq> and I'm getting an error message from that link
[12:32] <setite> !akode-mpeg
[12:32] <ubotu> Not a clue, setite
[12:32] <setite> grrrr
[12:32] <setite> !mp3
[12:32] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:32] <GNU-GPL> we have a faked one in tha house
[12:32] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:32] <cevizoglu> snausages: I'd advise burning it with ubuntu instead of nero
[12:33] <robotgeek> mpq: damn, i guess the site is down
[12:33] <Whistler> is there any gnu-gpl quest games?
[12:33] <GNU-GPL> Whistler, ?
[12:33] <mpq> so what do I do
[12:33] <snausages> cevizoglu, with that app... what's it called. k3-something
[12:33] <snausages> ?
[12:33] <Whistler> GNU-GPL i mean is there any open source Quest games
[12:33] <cevizoglu> k3b?
[12:34] <Hoxzer> maybe I should create that chroot :E
[12:34] <snausages> yeap
[12:34] <NiLz> does any1 know what package should I install in ubuntu to get "Fixed" font for X?
[12:34] <robotgeek> mpq: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:7UCF-3OkPWoJ:ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List+&hl=en&client=firefox
[12:34] <robotgeek> google cache link
[12:34] <Hoxzer> any ideas how do I Delete chroot because I think I failed last time I was doing it?
[12:34] <robotgeek> Hoxzer: delete chroot?
[12:34] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:34] <mpq> woo google cache
[12:35] <setite> anyone.. dvd on 64
[12:35] <snausages> cevizoglu, would it be better to use k3b instead of just burning directly?
[12:35] <candlelight> Nilz, I only know to search for "font" in synaptic and choose one to install
[12:35] <robotgeek> k3b is very nice, i have to admit
[12:35] <cevizoglu> snausages: burning it directly with what?
[12:35] <GNU-GPL> k3b rocks
[12:35] <candlelight> Nilz, probably searching in wiki ubuntu for the instruction to add repository
[12:36] <snausages> cevizoglu, the last iso i burned i just right-clicked on it and selected burn to cd
[12:36] <sly> anyone know any cli proggies to simple hanndle and grab .nzb's
[12:36] <sly> ?
[12:36] <robotgeek> sly: .nzb?
[12:37] <Stramash> newzbin
[12:37] <Stramash> or something
[12:37] <cevizoglu> snausages: I'm not the one to ask, since I use cdrecord which is slightly harder than a right-click
[12:38] <Stramash> why can't i see this glyph >   and just get the unicode box?
[12:38] <robotgeek> sly: wget or curl with some regexes shud do the trick
[12:38] <Stramash> how can i fix it?
[12:38] <snausages> cevizoglu, alright. thanks for your help though.
[12:38] <robotgeek> Stramash: in a term? use a unicode supporting term, aterm doesnt
[12:38] <Stramash> no in irc robotgeek
[12:38] <Stramash> or on web pages
[12:38] <cevizoglu> snausages: I have had terrible problems with cd's though that weren't burned from linux
[12:39] <GNU-GPL> sly, http://sourceforge.net/projects/nzbget
[12:39] <Hoxzer> :E
[12:39] <robotgeek> Stramash: what should i be seeing. i see a U in a white box :)
[12:39] <Hoxzer> loosiiiing my mind
[12:39] <snausages> cevizoglu, i intend to burn from ubuntu
[12:39] <f00li5h> mouse?
[12:40] <snausages> cevizoglu, im just not sure if i can run k3b on here... because it's for kde
[12:40] <Stramash> its a character, robotgeek I think A with a circle on it
[12:40] <GNU-GPL> keyboard?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: what is your mouse doing to hate you?
[12:40] <Stramash> its not fonts cos my mate uses the same font and can see it
[12:40] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: symptoms?
[12:40] <setite> ubuntu rocks so much
[12:41] <AdmiralCrunch> I am on Breezy, finally
[12:41] <f00li5h> it runs off to 1 of the corners od X
[12:41] <mpq> I found the driver
[12:41] <mpq> but it's an exe file
[12:41] <setite> i didnt think that it woudl work out of the box for my stereo
[12:41] <mpq> what do I do with it
[12:41] <f00li5h> and twitches
[12:41] <cevizoglu> snausages: I can run k3b from gnome
[12:41] <goo> snausages: of course you can run k3b. as long as you apt-get install it all dependencies needed will get installed as well.
[12:41] <setite> ubuntu rocks the usb more than windows.... hands down
[12:41] <NiLz> candlelight: I added all the necessary repos
[12:41] <Whistler> AdmiralCrunch is there any bugs?
[12:41] <NiLz> candlelight: just don't know which package contains the font?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: you've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:41] <snausages> thanks
[12:41] <setite> thats two things that need a driver in windows to work at all but are auto in linux
[12:41] <GNU-GPL> mpq, nothing, because it's a windows exe(cutable) file
[12:41] <mpq> then how do I use the driver
[12:41] <AdmiralCrunch> Whistler, well, I am having some trouble getting my ATI drivers to work, but that was true with hoary too
[12:42] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: nope. it's just a ps/2 touchpad
[12:42] <setite> mpq .exe archive?
[12:42] <Stramash>  SjF Is Away [Reason|Gaming<>Gone At 11:40:30 <> Away Log Is On]  < theres six characters in this line I dont see - i just get unicode boxes
[12:42] <f00li5h> xorg lkooks good in the config
[12:42] <AdmiralCrunch> but , its pretty fucking stable
[12:42] <mpq> maybe
[12:42] <robotgeek> mpq: i think cab extract or something
[12:42] <russ[] > So some of my windows, are like black, I noticed it on xterm and the teamspeak installer
[12:42] <mpq> I got it from the hp website
[12:42] <NiLz> candlelight: is there a way to see what the package contains? e.g. with yum there's a feature yum provides something
[12:42] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: that didn't answer the question really
[12:42] <mpq> from that ndiswrapper list
[12:42] <xophEr> How can I get the ubuntu bootsplash to be shown in a higher resolution?
[12:42] <NiLz> candlelight: and it gives you the packages which contain "something"
[12:42] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: `no'
[12:42] <Whistler> AdmiralCrunch how`s new gnome?
[12:43] <goo> I am on Breezy now, and cannot type "at" (@) on my norwegian keyboard anymore.. anyone got a good hint?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: well might I suggest it as a possibility ?
[12:43] <candlelight> Nilz, highlight the line in upper right box in synaptic, a description should appear on the lower box
[12:43] <AdmiralCrunch> Whistler, even better, its fantastic. Even easier to use, its getting great.
[12:43] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: as you haven't tried it...
[12:43] <GNU-GPL> pom pom pom
[12:43] <brownie17> HappyFool, i still havent got that script to work. do capitals matter in "gnome-terminal"?
[12:43] <Whistler> AdmiralCrunch i am thinking of upgradint to breezy too, but i am scared of bugs :)
[12:43] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: yes. i'll do it now
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > GNU-GPL: you just reminded me of a game I can't play B/C 3D acceleration isn't working for me in Breezy.
[12:44] <mpq> what do I do with the exe file
[12:44] <brownie17> Whistler, THE BUGS ARE EVERYWHERE!! i am very afraid! :)
[12:44] <GNU-GPL> brownie17, ehm.. in linux, everything is caps sensitive
[12:44] <Stramash> mpq, theres an app called dosbox or something you can run it from there or use wine to run it - if none of you archive apps will open it
[12:44] <AdmiralCrunch> Whistler, If you've done alot of tweaks I would reccomend restoring your tweaked configs as if you pull a "apt-get dist-upgrade" you can fuck up a lot of Xorg stuff, I did that, and I ended up installing from CD
[12:44] <Whistler> brownie17 :D
[12:44] <mpq> I'm not sure if it's an archive
[12:44] <brownie17> GNU-GPL, sorry, i'll rehprase my question, does it have to be "Gnome-Terminal"
[12:44] <mpq> I'm assuming it is because I got it from hp's website
[12:44] <Stramash> it will be a self-extracting archive
[12:44] <thoreauputic> brownie17: no
[12:44] <robotgeek> i like the attention to detail in breezy. for example drive-mount applet shows me when a usb drive is mounted wit a usb symbol
[12:44] <Whistler> AdmiralCrunch i think so too
[12:45] <mpq> so how do I extract it
[12:45] <thoreauputic> brownie17: it's lower case
[12:45] <brownie17> Stramash, DOSBOX has a linux version too
[12:45] <Stramash> use dosbox or wine
[12:45] <brownie17> Stramash, you don't need wine to run it
[12:45] <GNU-GPL> [Chameleon] , ?
[12:45] <[Chameleon] > GNU-GPL: http://www.pompomgames.com/
[12:45] <brownie17> Stramash, oh, my mistake
[12:45] <robotgeek> !info cabextract
[12:45] <ubotu> cabextract: (a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[12:45] <GNU-GPL> [Chameleon] , hehe
[12:45] <mpq> universe?
[12:45] <mpq> I forgot how to enable that
[12:45] <[Chameleon] > GNU-GPL: they are totally sweeeeet games, too.
[12:45] <russ[] > So some of my windows, are black, I noticed it on xterm and the teamspeak installer. just black, and can't see what's written behind them. I just installed my nvidia drivers
[12:45] <bz0b> anyone need any programming or configuring? on network systems, I am A+, Network+, CCNA, CCNC, MCSE, MCSA, Linux+, RHEC4 and pm me
[12:45] <brownie17> thoreauputic, why isn't smeg in synaptic for me anymore/
[12:46] <AdmiralCrunch> brownie17, are you on Breezy?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> brownie17: it was before?
[12:46] <Hoxzer> thats it I change to 32 bit version >_<
[12:46] <GNU-GPL> bz0b, no advertisements please
[12:46] <Hoxzer> :D
[12:46] <brownie17> AdmiralCrunch, no i am not
[12:46] <brownie17> thoreauputic, it was, but then i had to reinstall due to a XORG error
[12:46] <AdmiralCrunch> Ok, just making sure
[12:46] <SanderD> Hi. Will Breezy have better AMD64 support? (More packages?)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> brownie17: you mean you reinstalled the whole OS ?
[12:47] <snausages> goo, i installed from k3b from syanptic. i tried to run it but it tells me to "Install the cdrdao package."
[12:47] <f00li5h> thehil: it got lots worse. it now has the wrong video modes
[12:47] <snausages> goo, and i cannot find it
[12:47] <brownie17> thoreauputic, yes. had no choice, no-one on #ubuntu would help, i waited and asked for 2 hours
[12:47] <NiLz> candlelight: yes, but its only a basic description
[12:47] <thoreauputic> brownie17: well, your apt sources need updating I guess
[12:48] <brownie17> thoreauputic,  ok
[12:48] <NiLz> candlelight: how to find out all the contents?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> brownie17: although you can get smeg with a script instead
[12:48] <NiLz> candlelight: e.g. the list of the files installed by a package
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !tell brownie17 about smeg
[12:48] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i think i'll do that, last time i had more luck with the script
[12:48] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: ok, to hell with it, i dont really want X, i just want to play mp3's and use vi, so what can i use to play mp3's on a shell?
[12:48] <_tarball> I have got kubuntu installed on my laptop. Everything is working fine if I login but if my GF then logs on using the 'switch user' option the software suspend will kick in, any ideas how I can stop this?
[12:48] <robotgeek> brownie17: in case it breaks again later, xorg files are backed up by the installer
[12:48] <brownie17> thoreauputic, oohhh.. i get it now, i don't have backports enabled anymore. that is why
[12:49] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: cplay, mpg123, mpg321, mp3blaster
[12:49] <robotgeek> brownie17: good, use mp3blaste
[12:49] <robotgeek> brownie17: good, use mp3blaster
[12:49] <candlelight> Nilz, opps, in this case I don't know :p
[12:49] <brownie17> thoreauputic,  i didn't know they were backports
[12:49] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: ^_^
[12:49] <robotgeek> brownie17: sorry, i meant f00li5h
[12:49] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: cplay is simple
[12:49] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: and fairly useful
[12:49] <mpq> what do I use to extract a self-extracting executable?
[12:50] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: excelent
[12:50] <brownie17> robotgeek, i tried the backup, for some reason that didn't work etierh. i think i accidnetly saved the broken one over the backup. :S
[12:50] <goo> snausages: uuuhm, did you try a search for cdrdao in synaptic..?
[12:50] <robotgeek> brownie17: too bad!
[12:50] <thoreauputic> brownie17: I suggest you take care with backports
[12:50] <snausages> goo, yes
[12:50] <SanderD> Will Wine work for example in Breezy AMD64?
[12:50] <mpq> eh
[12:50] <snausages> goo, maybe i need to enable multiverse or somethin'... lemme check
[12:50] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: you might need to edit /etc/libao.conf
[12:50] <mpq> I'm tired, I'll do this tomorrow
[12:50] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: but it's trivial
[12:50] <goo> snausages: I suppose that might be the solution, yes.
[12:50] <f00li5h> wassat?
[12:51] <maar> can anyone here help me with GnomeBaker? please, get error msg: unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL
[12:51] <snausages> goo, i didnt find it
[12:51] <brownie17> thoreauputic, yes, i don't think i will enable them unless i have too. someone told me there were completely safe for hoary, but not for breezy, but for some reason i stilldon't feel safe with them.
[12:51] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: that file defines output for cplay
[12:52] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: esd?
[12:52] <cevizoglu> !tell f00li5h about esd
[12:52] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: you can probably use esd - I don't
[12:52] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: I use dmix and alsa
[12:52] <snausages> goo, i got it, sorry
[12:52] <goo> snausages: I have universe main restricted multiverse in my /etc/apt/sources.list, and the cdrdao package shows up in synaptic allright.
[12:52] <goo> snausages: :)
[12:53] <SanderD> /leave
[12:53] <maar> can anyone here help me with GnomeBaker? please, I get error msg: unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL
[12:53] <setite> what do i need to compile
[12:53] <SanderD> hm
[12:53] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: thanks - knew that
[12:53] <setite> just gcc
[12:53] <setite> ?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> setite: install build-essential
[12:53] <setite> nvm... its a yes... woot
[12:53] <snausages> goo, thanks :)
[12:53] <setite> oh ok
[12:53] <cevizoglu> does anyone have hoary-extras in their sources.list?
[12:54] <goo> cevizoglu: I used to before I switched to breezy-extras
[12:54] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: only temporarily, and only for codecs here
[12:54] <setite> hey thoreauputic can you help me
[12:54] <cevizoglu> thoreauputic: how do I make it work?  I must have the wrong server or something
[12:54] <setite> im trying to get dvd... running libdvdread3
[12:55] <setite> sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[12:55] <setite> im getting an error
[12:55] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: Check the mirrors
[12:55] <goo> setite: what error?
[12:55] <setite> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:55] <f00li5h> setite: run as root, all the time
[12:56] <goo> setite: omg. listen to f00li5h .
[12:56] <setite> ok.. i tried sudo
[12:56] <f00li5h> i'll stop.
[12:56] <setite> well i hate using true root... but i will if i must
[12:56] <cevizoglu> f00li5h: you are seriously annoying me
[12:56] <f00li5h> i'll be good, promise
[12:56] <f00li5h> cevizoglu: see above
[12:56] <robotgeek> setite: what is the issue with using sudo?
[12:56] <setite> well i like sudo...
[12:57] <setite> but im getting that error using sudo
[12:57] <cevizoglu> setite: have you tried sudo -s?
[12:57] <setite> noshould i
[12:57] <goo> setite: for true system administration true root is a Good Thing.
[12:57] <Vektram> anyone know how to configure what the file browser looks like?
[12:57] <setite> i was gonna do sudo su
[12:57] <cevizoglu> setite: you should
[12:57] <setite> ok
[12:57] <maar> can anyone here help me with GnomeBaker? please, I get error msg: unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL
[12:57] <robotgeek> setite: try sudo /usr/.../install-css.sh
[12:57] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: you better be good - I'm watching closely ;)
[12:58] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: i'll play nice
[12:58] <robotgeek> setite: also make sure the script is executable
[12:58] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: consider that strike 2 by the way
[12:58] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: what's strike 2?
[12:59] <DewDude> hey man look at me rockin out, i'm on the radio
[12:59] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: 3 strikes and you're out
[12:59] <robotgeek> f00li5h: u don't follow baseball, do u?
[12:59] <setite> well im trying it with sudo -s
[12:59] <f00li5h> no, what did i say that was a strike/
[12:59] <setite> ok its working this way
[01:00] <setite> they need to add libdvdcss2 amd64 to the lib
[01:00] <f00li5h> robotgeek:  i know how it works
[01:00] <thoreauputic> f00li5h: I have a sense of humout, but your constant references to using root are getting on people's nerves
[01:00] <robotgeek> f00li5h: okay, my bad
[01:00] <thoreauputic> *humour
[01:01] <f00li5h> thoreauputic: i'd not say that 2 is constant, but point taken
[01:01] <brownie17> thoreauputic, why can't you delete icons you didn't make in Smeg?
[01:01] <brownie17> thoreauputic, is that becasue i am not running as super user?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> brownie17: don't know - ak amaranth :)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> *ask
[01:03] <brownie17> thoreauputic, amaranth does not seem to be on very often
[01:03] <f00li5h> ok, final n00b question for tonight, apache2, do i want to run php as a module?
[01:04] <tear> how do i open my ubuntu for remote logins?
[01:05] <f00li5h> tear: what sort of lokin?
[01:05] <tear> terminal control
[01:05] <f00li5h> sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:05] <corza> hi guys, how come when i logout and ctrl+alt+backspace it says that my greeter has crashed and i have to use another?
[01:07] <f00li5h> corza: why are you using ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:08] <Bateau_> hey! when i type make to install something, and i get "error 1" what does that mean?
[01:08] <cevizoglu> Bateau: that there was a fatal error
[01:08] <Bateau_> oh :/
[01:08] <Bateau_> how can i fix this?
[01:08] <delmonico> is it normal thatt launchpad/rosetta is extremely slow? its not fun to translate when I need to wait 90% of my time
[01:09] <cevizoglu> Bateau: depends on the problem
[01:09] <cevizoglu> Bateau: could be anything
[01:09] <Bateau_> well, i dont know what the problem is :(
[01:09] <cevizoglu> Bateau: unless you could provide more info
[01:09] <corza> to restart x
[01:09] <thoreauputic> delmonico: launchpad is indeed very slow
[01:09] <Bateau_> oki? what kind of info?
[01:09] <cevizoglu> Bateau: like what you're building and what steps you've taken to do so
[01:10] <delmonico> thoreauputic: :( need to grab .po again then ;) very unfortunate however, the idea behind rosetta is great
[01:10] <Bateau_> cevizoglu:  im building this module for xchat, xmms-controll its called
[01:10] <brownie17> corza, you should try to address people with their username at the start of each sentence, it helps identify which things are being said to whom, espeically if you took a while to reply
[01:10] <thoreauputic> delmonico: are you on the documentation mailing list? MAybe you should raise this if so...
[01:11] <delmonico> no I ain't. but someone should have noticed this already ;)
[01:11] <Bateau_> cevizoglu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2079 <--- this is what hapens
[01:11] <brownie17> !rosetta
[01:11] <ubotu> I don't know, brownie17
[01:12] <magnon> Bateau_: you obviously don't have any build libraries installed
[01:12] <magnon> as in glib-dev, gtk-dev
[01:12] <Bateau_> i do, i installed this "build-essential"
[01:13] <magnon> those are the essentials :)
[01:13] <Bateau_> ah, so i need more?
[01:13] <Bateau_> :D
[01:13] <magnon> you can do apt-get <something> xmms to install the build dependencies
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Bateau_: build-essential is only compilers etc
[01:13] <magnon> but I cant remember exactly
[01:13] <magnon> build-deps perhaps
[01:13] <magnon> apt-get build-dep xmms
[01:13] <thoreauputic> apt-get build-dep
[01:13] <thoreauputic> why compile xmms though?
[01:13] <magnon> had to ssh in and check :)
[01:13] <magnon> yeah, I wondered as well
[01:13] <magnon> shouldn't be a need
[01:14] <tear> thx, working now
[01:14] <magnon> brb
[01:14] <thoreauputic> !info xmms
[01:14] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1917 kB, Installed size: 5988 kB
[01:14] <corza> what is the best way to install nvidia drivers?
[01:14] <Frafra> !realplayer amd64
[01:14] <ubotu> Frafra: I give up, what is it?
[01:14] <Bateau_> im installing this plugin for xmms, to use in xchat
[01:14] <thoreauputic> it's even in main
[01:14] <Frafra> !realplayer
[01:14] <ubotu> realplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:14] <Bateau_> http://www.aypok.co.uk/downloads/xmms-control.php <-- this one
[01:14] <magnon> aha
[01:14] <magnon> !xmms-control
[01:14] <ubotu> magnon: I haven't a clue
[01:14] <robotgeek> Bateau_: u only need xmms dev package, no need to compile xmms from scratch
[01:14] <magnon> ok
[01:15] <cevizoglu> !tell Frafra about realplayer
[01:15] <corza> !nvidia
[01:15] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:15] <magnon> robotgeek: he isnt trying to :)
[01:15] <Bateau_> im not compiling xmms
[01:15] <cevizoglu> oops
[01:15] <Bateau_> im compiling the plugin
[01:15] <cevizoglu> looks like it's time for sleep
[01:15] <magnon> Bateau_: try apt-get build-dep xmms and then apt-get install xmms-dev if build-dep doesnt catch that
[01:15] <SpareXX> hey, where can i get Tetris for Ubuntu?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Bateau_: 99% of the time compiling errors mean you need the -dev libraries
[01:16] <Bateau_> oki :)
[01:16] <magnon> SpareXX: theres a tetris game in gnome-games
[01:16] <robotgeek> Bateau_: i figure u need xmms-dev library :)
[01:16] <Bateau_> oki, ill try that :)
[01:16] <thoreauputic> and 78.45 % of statistics are wrong *grin*
[01:16] <SpareXX> oh, yeah, i forgot, i was seeing after just Tetris, see now Gnometris :P
[01:16] <cevizoglu> and the other 1% of the time you'll need to do some serious work to get it building
[01:17] <cevizoglu> ;)
[01:17] <corza> guys, what is the best way to install nvidia drivers?
[01:17] <DewDude> and 33.5% of them ae made up
[01:17] <thoreauputic> !tell corza about nvidia
[01:18] <robotgeek> does anyone know of a way to change the beep sound, application specific?
[01:18] <corza> thoreauputic: and that's it? i don't believe that's all I have to do.
[01:18] <thoreauputic> corza: *shrug*
[01:18] <corza> should i follow what's on the nvidia website?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> corza: no, you should follow what's onthe URL ubotu sent you
[01:19] <Bateau_> hmm, it looks like it worked now :D thanks allot for the help guys :D
[01:20] <corza> thoreauputic: i want to be able to play 3d games
[01:20] <fbn> !tell fbn about nvidia
[01:21] <thoreauputic> corza: *sigh* have you even *tried* what ubotu sent you?
[01:21] <cafuego_> !bot
[01:21] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego_? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[01:22] <thoreauputic> heh corza didn't want to hear what he was told, evidently
[01:22] <DewDude> wow
[01:22] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: Many people don't.
[01:22] <DewDude> i didn't know ubuntu could connect to rdp
[01:22] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: especially on weekends
[01:22] <thoreauputic> cafuego_: true indeed
[01:22] <DewDude> i didn't know linux in general could connect to rdp
[01:22] <cafuego_> DewDude: But of course! :-)
[01:23] <DewDude> heh, bandwidth intensive little booger
[01:23] <cevizoglu> thoreauputic: either that or he was rebooting to see if it would help
[01:23] <Kazuhiro> hi people, I am having some issues with getting a higher screen res to work
[01:23] <DewDude> i also wish it didn't log my current windows console out
[01:24] <DewDude> so i could look at the physical monitor
[01:24] <Kazuhiro> I am trying to get 1920x1200 to work,
[01:24] <cafuego_> Yeah, if ou have low bandwidth, you're better off running a vnc server.
[01:24] <DewDude> VNC too laggy
[01:24] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: ah yes, the old reboot reflex :)
[01:24] <DewDude> i got plenty of BW
[01:24] <DewDude> i'm doing LAN
[01:24] <cevizoglu> :)
[01:24] <setite> !java
[01:24] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:24] <SpareXX> !tell SpareXX about nvidia
[01:24] <DewDude> yeah
[01:24] <funkyHat> how can i make a kernel boot option stick (where do i put it in menu.lst so that the grub updater adds it in every time there's an update)
[01:24] <DewDude> the PC's are actually next to each other
[01:24] <f00li5h> [repeats of ]  final n00b question for tonight, apache2, do i want to run php as a module?
[01:25] <DewDude>  so, i don't NEED RDP
[01:25] <DewDude> err
[01:25] <DewDude> yeah
[01:25] <DewDude> anyway
[01:25] <cafuego_> DewDude: RDP is nicer then a KVM, tho.
[01:25] <DewDude> did i tell ya'll i had to reinstall ubuntu the other night
[01:25] <DewDude> cafuego, i have the mouse and keyboard for that system here
[01:25] <corza> that didnt work
[01:25] <DewDude> it's just a pain switching between them
[01:25] <DewDude> like, it's not..i just don't like doing it
[01:26] <setite> how do i install a .bin
[01:26] <DewDude> all i'm actually using it for right now is winamp control
[01:26] <DewDude> ./filename.bin
[01:26] <setite> thanks
[01:26] <DewDude> that's how you execute stuff
[01:27] <corza> how do i stop all processes and just run in command line?
[01:28] <setite> gah wtf
[01:28] <cafuego_> corza: ctrl-alt-F1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  stop
[01:29] <setite> thats not working
[01:29] <funkyHat> anyone help me with the magic kernels section of menu.lst?
[01:30] <B|ueMat> hey all, im trying to setup remote desktop, ive allowed port 5900 through the firewall still no luck connecting, any ideas?
[01:30] <setite> hey im trying to install java
[01:30] <setite> how do i run the .bin
[01:30] <f00li5h> what sort of remote desktop
[01:30] <funkyHat> ubotu, tell setite about java
[01:30] <cevizoglu> setite: .bin is also a file format from which you would extract the files
[01:30] <cafuego_> setite: Don't run it.
[01:30] <setite> dont run... ok do what
[01:31] <funkyHat> setite, see what ubotu said
[01:31] <setite> nah thats for 32bit
[01:31] <cafuego_> setite: Install 'java-package'. Then run fakeroot make-jpjg file.bin
[01:31] <cafuego_> make-jpkg even
[01:31] <setite> ok
[01:31] <fbn> the layout on keyboard preferences in gnome on breezy is getting ignored, I have to re-set the layout with setxkbmap every time I log in
[01:31] <fbn> can somebody confirm this?
[01:32] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, normal remote desktop in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop, I have it enabled, then I try to view througha VNC viewer
[01:32] <f00li5h> hrm
[01:32] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, I have allowed port 5900 in Firestarter
[01:32] <f00li5h> BlueEagle: try using rdesktop as your client
[01:33] <Kazuhiro> any one know why when I set my res in xorg.conf at 1920x1200 is does not work but if I use lower screen res's it is fine. My monitor can support the res too.
[01:33] <pc22> how do i install a printer in my linux box. im on a windows network.
[01:33] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, ?
[01:33] <f00li5h> B|ueMat: yes?
[01:33] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, was that supposed to be for me?
[01:33] <HappyFool> *yay* i beat solarwolf
[01:33] <f00li5h> yes
[01:33] <brownie17> HappyFool, good job!
[01:33] <B|ueMat> rdesktop, never heard of it..
[01:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, how many levels are there in that?
[01:34] <f00li5h> who has a | in their name anyway?
[01:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: um. 54 i think. he used roman numerals to number it
[01:34] <f00li5h> B|ueMat: try it
[01:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, ... how many hours have you spent playing it!?!?!?
[01:34] <HappyFool> oh, it's not really hard. maybe three or four
[01:34] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, is that app in the base?
[01:35] <f00li5h> B|ueMat: yeah
[01:35] <brownie17> does anyone know how i can get freecraft to play fullscreen? is there a option i can use in the terminal?
[01:35] <B|ueMat> f00li5h, Where is it?
[01:35] <f00li5h> the shell
[01:36] <pc22> how do i install a printer in my linux box. im on a windows network.
[01:36] <setite> odd
[01:36] <setite> i still cant install azureus
[01:36] <zukalk> Breezy released oct 13? is this confirmed?
[01:37] <f00li5h> magnon: eh? i dont understand
[01:38] <brownie17> f00li5h, B|ueMat  does
[01:38] <setite> oh that made a package... ok
[01:39] <f00li5h> brownie17: sorry?
[01:39] <brownie17> f00li5h,  dont worry, a question you asked way back there
[01:39] <magnon> f00li5h: what?
[01:39] <f00li5h> magnon: mis-tabbing
[01:39] <f00li5h> sorry
[01:40] <HappyFool> zukalk: i don't know if this is official or not: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[01:40] <f00li5h> brownie17: oh, right
[01:40] <zukalk> thanks
[01:40] <brownie17> MrGardenHoseMan, nice username :)
[01:40] <magnon> ok :)
[01:41] <zukalk> HappyFool, now this is annoying.. i'm going to germany just a day before breezy's release. guess i'll have to wait till i come back to try it
[01:41] <fanopanic> zukalk: or you try it now :)
[01:42] <HappyFool> zukalk: haven't they invented the internet in germany yet? ;)
[01:42] <f00li5h> HappyFool: knoppix
[01:42] <zukalk> fanopanic, i prefer the final release ;)
[01:42] <brownie17> zukalk, germany eh? poor you. auf weidersehn
[01:42] <zukalk> HappyFool, i guess they have, but i'm not carrying my pc
[01:42] <zukalk> brownie17, :)
[01:42] <brownie17> zukalk, isn't it laptop?
[01:42] <zukalk> brownie17, nope
[01:43] <setite> how do i enable NAT for azureus
[01:45] <BirdyKiller> hello
[01:46] <DewDude> so, breezy's been running pretty good
[01:46] <BirdyKiller> I wanted to ask if anyone can explain or link me to an explanation of how to disable my laptop's touchpad?  I already have a USB mouse connected, and hate this damned touchpad
[01:46] <lsuactiafner> BirdyKiller : you know how a knife works?
[01:47] <cevizoglu> lsuactiafner: I prefer superglue
[01:47] <xophEr> Hm, after I upgraded my kernel (to a custom one, with oldconfig though) my local filesystems fails to mount at boot. Any ideas what this could be?
[01:47] <spiral> hi
[01:47] <dazjorz> how to restart the sound server again ?
[01:47] <f00li5h> BirdyKiller: perhaps you can disable it in bios?
[01:47] <BirdyKiller> yeah, lsuactiafner, but I'd like to be able to sell the laptop someday...
[01:48] <f00li5h> dazjorz: the X server? ctrl+alt+backspave
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> xophEr : yeh you didnt compile your disk and file system support into the kernel along with /dev parts * not M
[01:48] <setite> how do i find out the ip for this pc
[01:48] <BirdyKiller> f00li5h, I'd have to check again to be sure, but if I remember right I tried that a while ago and no such luck...
[01:48] <xophEr> lsuactiafner, hmm, right
[01:48] <dazjorz> f00li5h: Not the X server. the sound server.
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> dazjorz : killall -HUP esd
[01:49] <f00li5h> dazjorz: oh
[01:49] <dazjorz> lsuactiafner: thanks
[01:49] <WaterSevenUb> hey guys... when starting "Beagled" I get 05-09-11 12.49.05.55 12424 Beagle FATAL: Could not set extended attributes on a file in your home directory.  See http://www.beaglewiki.org/Enabling_Extended_Attributes for more information.
[01:49] <dazjorz> lsuactiafner: esd: no processes killed
[01:49] <WaterSevenUb> any solution?
[01:49] <BirdyKiller> I found "synclient TouchpadOff=1" but I get "Can't access shared memory area.  SHMConfig disabled?"
[01:50] <cashel_> dazjorz, killall -HUP alsa :)
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> whats the sound deamon for gnome?
[01:50] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: i don't use beagle, but i'd guess reading that page would be a good start
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> i dnt use gnome so i cant cehck...
[01:50] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: just type esd &
[01:50] <dazjorz> cashel_: alsa: no processes killed
[01:50] <pc22> how do i install printer in a windows network
[01:51] <cashel_> oss? :)
[01:51] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: still no sound.
[01:51] <cevizoglu> hahaha, didn't realize supertux was like super mario bros
[01:51] <WaterSevenUb> Happyfool, Yeah... I've read it already ;)
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> dazjorz : run alsamixer
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> check the volume?
[01:51] <pc22> pls herp
[01:51] <cashel_> System > Preferences > Multimedia Selector should tell you...
[01:51] <pc22> pls help
[01:51] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: ah you have no sound - that's a differnet issue then
[01:51] <thoreauputic> *different
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> or just run esd
[01:52] <pc22> hi Seveas
[01:52] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: ok, and the instructions didn't work?
[01:52] <setite> seveas!!!!
[01:52] <setite> whats up man
[01:52] <pc22> pls help again
[01:52] <dweazle> ey Seveas :)
[01:53] <Seveas> oi
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> run esd since its not running.... .. . .
[01:53] <pc22> how do i install printer in a windows network
[01:53] <WaterSevenUb> happyfool, nope... I guess I'm misunderstanding something. I don't have a separate /Home partition, it's inside root. How do I start / with the user_xattr property?
[01:54] <xophEr> What do I need configure when building a vanilla-kernel?
[01:54] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: you can add it to the / entry in /etc/fstab
[01:54] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: i'm not familiar with this extension, though
[01:54] <Vektram> grrr...
[01:54] <nalioth> Seveas: mixing ext3 and hfs+ is not a good idea
[01:54] <Vektram> can anyone help me with apache?
[01:54] <lsuactiafner> pc22 : you glue it to the ceiling and when it falls someone will tell you how to fix it, till then the ppl in this channel read your question and can't/won't answer you, wait 20 minutes and ask again
[01:55] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: if you look in /etc/fstab, you should see an entry for / (it's just after /proc in mine)
[01:55] <WaterSevenUb> happyfool, yape... :) can I remount it while active? I have to restart right?
[01:55] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: a remount might work
[01:55] <ceriel> How likely am I to screw up recompiling my kernel?
[01:55] <Jemt> Hi. Could someone please help me with my Ubuntu Installation? I have just performed a normal installation (Ubuntu 5.04). X was running just fine but in 60 Hz. So I installed the drivers for nVidia GeForce (My card is a Asus GF4 Ti4200 - 128 MB and I installed 'nvidia-glx' and enabled it with 'nvidia-glx-config enable'). This didn't solve my problem so I reconfigured my xserver using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. Here I found that my monitor wasn't detec
[01:56] <WaterSevenUb> happyfoold, going to try, thx.
[01:56] <lsuactiafner> umount -rw maybe.. remounts while active
[01:56] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: something like 'sudo mount -o remount /' maybe; i'm not sure how risky that is
[01:56] <thoreauputic> ceriel: if you need to ask, I guess quite likely :)
[01:56] <bob2> Jemt: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:56] <Jemt> bob2: Well, don't think this is a resolution problem
[01:57] <lsuactiafner> nope that wont work
[01:57] <Jemt> bob2: Actually this is more likely a X configuration problem
[01:57] <bob2> shockingly
[01:58] <setite> how do i clear the iptables
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> setite : iptables -F
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> you should however rerun your firewall/iptables script asap
[02:00] <Jemt> What should I enter for my 'Video Card's Identifier'? The suggestion: PCI:1:0:0
[02:00] <cevizoglu> nalioth: you were saying something about mixing hfs+ and ext3?
[02:00] <bob2> Jemt: leave it blank
[02:00] <cevizoglu> nalioth: that's what I'm doing
[02:00] <Jemt> bob2: Blank? Really?`Ok :)
[02:01] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes, just something my experience has shown me isnt too swift
[02:01] <bob2> I'm pretty sure the help text tells yo uto do that
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> Jemt : xorgconfig
[02:01] <cevizoglu> nalioth: did you lose one of your partitions?
[02:01] <ceriel> No recompiling the kernel then... In that case I need to set my CC environment variable pointing at gcc version 3.4.5. However, I can only find gcc v. 3.4.4 in the SPM... Ideas?
[02:01] <bob2> do you really have a reason to believe running some other tool will magically fix it?
[02:01] <Nameeater> how can I play wmv3 format? I have w32 codec but all I get is a mess with xine, mplayer and vlc dies
[02:01] <Jemt> lsuactiafner: Using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> cool
[02:02] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: no, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the "Debian Way"
[02:02] <Jemt> :)
[02:02] <bob2> ceriel: what are you trying to do?
[02:02] <WaterSevenUb> HappyFool, well... it solved the problem :-) but the beagle daemon is not starting with some other error.... grrr
[02:02] <bob2> it's the "Does not break upgrades of X"-way
[02:02] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: what are you running? hoary?
[02:02] <WaterSevenUb> happyfool, yape...
[02:02] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: why not just wait for breezy -- i *think* it will have beagle
[02:02] <WaterSevenUb> happyfool, 05-09-11 13.00.43.76 09381 Beagle DEBUG: Purging /home/rui/.beagle/FileSystemIndex
[02:02] <WaterSevenUb> , 05-09-11 13.00.43.88 09381 Beagle ERROR: Caught exception while instantiating Files backend
[02:03] <ceriel> bob2: I' trying to install vmWare, but got stuck when it wanted to compile some kernel modules which I didn't have natively.
[02:03] <setite> ok what is with this NAT thing
[02:03] <setite> i cant get it to work
[02:03] <WaterSevenUb> happyfool, because I'm very impatient :) yes it will... but I've used backports.
[02:03] <setite> the ports are forwarded
[02:03] <setite> i cleared the iptables... now what
[02:03] <HappyFool> WaterSevenUb: read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[02:03] <bob2> setite: you seem kinda confused
[02:04] <setite> bob2: trying to work azureus... the NAT test keeps failing...
[02:05] <HappyFool> hmm. i feel like a bit of a luddite when i read all this weird beagle/mono stuff.
[02:06] <Paradoxx> setie are you behind a router or somthing of the sort?
[02:07] <Paradoxx> any1, how do you recommend i accesses another computer on my network, without having to go to it physically, they are both ubuntu boxes
[02:08] <pc22> how do i install java?
[02:08] <setite> paradox ive forwarded them
[02:08] <setite> i foudn the problem
[02:08] <Paradoxx> setite kk, i figured that would of been it
[02:08] <setite> i need to enable forwarding
[02:08] <setite> but its not working
[02:08] <HappyFool> pc22: you've tried the java page on the wiki?
[02:08] <setite> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[02:08] <setite> but thats not working
[02:08] <thoreauputic> !tell pc22 about java
[02:09] <GNAM> RUMORS of ebuntu: ubuntu with enlightenment
[02:09] <GNAM> any idea?
[02:09] <Paradoxx> setite are you behind a router?
[02:09] <setite> i already told you that i have already forwarded the ports
[02:09] <Russ[] > can someone help me with my microphone looping back?
[02:09] <setite> i need to allow ip forwarding on a software level
[02:09] <bz0b> settie, may i ask what it is you are trying to do?
[02:09] <setite> work azureus
[02:10] <bz0b> ah
[02:10] <bz0b> that is easdy
[02:10] <cdc> does anyone have the link for the latest cedega version
[02:10] <bz0b> what port are you trying to set it to
[02:10] <pc22> thanks
[02:10] <bz0b> cdc
[02:10] <setite> i found a thread that for it...
[02:10] <Russ[] > www.transgaming.com?
[02:10] <setite> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4089&highlight=azureus+NAT
[02:10] <zblach> hi
[02:10] <bz0b> cdc, well with paying for it?
[02:10] <bz0b> setite, just set the port number to the next one up for the litsening port
[02:10] <Russ[] > you can get it for free on the official site
[02:10] <bz0b> it will work
[02:10] <bz0b> really?
[02:11] <Russ[] > cvs
[02:11] <bz0b> wow, why did I pay for it then, stupid me
[02:11] <bz0b> well at least i got point2play
[02:11] <Madeye> HiddenFly, guys can I upgrade directly from Warty to Breezy ?
[02:11] <bz0b> which helps life
[02:11] <bz0b> by mounting it for me
[02:11] <Russ[] > yah
[02:11] <bz0b> Madeye, yes
[02:11] <Russ[] > i "pay" for it too
[02:11] <Madeye> bz0b,  without much troubles?
[02:12] <cdc> no i mean the free version
[02:12] <Russ[] > cdc look on there, you can get it for free through cvs
[02:12] <pc22> !tell pc22 about printing
[02:12] <Russ[] > you just have to compile it.
[02:12] <cdc> links please
[02:13] <Russ[] > www.transgaming.com
[02:13] <zblach> how to open .bin files?
[02:13] <LethAL-Rocks> So you have to pay for compiled software? That's stupid
[02:13] <bob2> setite: do you know what NAT is?
[02:13] <cdc> is it easy to compile cedega or it take much time?
[02:13] <pc22> thoreauputic: what about printing. how do i find it in wiki
[02:13] <bob2> no, you have to pay for a licensed copy of cedega
[02:13] <bob2> the sourcein CVS is not complete, or distributable
[02:13] <setite> brb i think i got it
[02:14] <Frafra> i've gmail-notify
[02:14] <giggsey> I am trying to do How to convert Wallpaper to Splash Image for GRUB menu? as from ubuntuguide, but it says convert can not be found
[02:14] <bz0b> hey bob2, you rock my world :-), you bad ass linux pro you
[02:14] <Frafra> but it display "login error"
[02:14] <Frafra> but isn't possible
[02:14] <Frafra> why?
[02:14] <bob2> giggsey: then install the imagemagick package
[02:14] <giggsey> ok
[02:14] <Frafra> "Login appears to be invalid"
[02:14] <bob2> and email the ubuntuguide person to tell them to fix it
[02:15] <Frafra> but the username and password are right!
[02:15] <giggsey> kk
[02:15] <cafuego_> giggsey: install imagemagick; it just save it as xpm in gimp
[02:15] <bz0b> bob2, if i upgrade to breezy, when they make the new updates since itws still not the final release, will it be updated without me having to reformatt again?
[02:16] <Whistler> why  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty?
[02:16] <sly> hm what sthe build-........
[02:16] <Whistler> should it be empty?
[02:16] <bz0b> ah, f**k it, i am upgrading
[02:16] <sly> erm cant explain is on tip of y tounge , i want to apt get - . build-.........
[02:16] <bob2> bz0b: you never need to reformat or reinstall for updates
[02:16] <bz0b> nice
[02:16] <zblach> .bin and .cue files. like cd images
[02:16] <bz0b> bob2, you are god!
[02:16] <Russ[] > Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back?
[02:16] <bob2> sly: are you making a reference to the build-essential metapackage?
[02:16] <bob2> Whistler: that depends on your hardware
[02:16] <sly> thats the one =, tyhankyou
[02:17] <zblach> !bin
[02:17] <ubotu> zblach: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:17] <Whistler> bob2 so any other way of getting cpu temp?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> pc22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=network+printing&titlesearch=Titles
[02:17] <bob2> Whistler: as above, depends on your hardware
[02:17] <Whistler> hmm
[02:17] <cafuego_> zblach: 'cdrdao write foo.cue'
[02:17] <bz0b> hey cafuego
[02:18] <Paradoxx> any1 here have any experience with ssh or openssh
[02:18] <zblach> not to burn a disc, to open the bin. to browse it
[02:18] <Paradoxx> ?
[02:18] <corza> hi guys, /etc/init.d/gdm stop was working properly before but now it's coming up with like 40 lines of stuff and is actually starting other processes. i dont understand why this is happening..
[02:18] <bz0b> by the way, i have finally gone fully to linux, no matter what, i am not going back now!
[02:18] <bob2> Paradoxx: just ask your question
[02:18] <bob2> also, "any1" is not a word...
[02:18] <pc22> thoreauputic: from ubuntu to win98 hosted printer
[02:18] <bob2> corza: and the full output is...(#flood, not here)
[02:18] <cafuego_> zblach: You can't natively; convert it to .iso using 'bchunk'.
[02:18] <bz0b> Paradoxx, don't ask to ask a question
[02:18] <Paradoxx> bob2 well, essentially i'm just trying to figure out how i can login and use another computer on my network remotely
[02:18] <linukso> Hi! Has anyone had trouble running ubuntu on a dual cpu p3 ? I get weird interrupt errors...
[02:18] <thoreauputic> pc22: did you check the search link?
[02:19] <bob2> Paradoxx: ssh user@hostname
[02:19] <bob2> Paradoxx: all done
[02:19] <bz0b> Paradoxx, for what purposes may i ask you want to do when remoting
[02:19] <bz0b> bob2, well what if he wants gui
[02:19] <cdc> any who knows how to install cedega?
[02:19] <bob2> linukso: probably old broken acpi.  does "noapic", "acpi=off", or "nolapic" at the kernel boot line work?
[02:19] <bz0b> cdc
[02:19] <bz0b> cdc, yes i do
[02:19] <bob2> cdc: #cedega
[02:19] <scumbo> Russ[] , I had a problem with a looping microphone.  Just needed to switch it off in the mixer.
[02:19] <linukso> ah, will try that!
[02:19] <bz0b> cdc, pm me
[02:19] <Paradoxx> well, pretty much everything, don't really want to have to sitch between monitors etc every 2nd
[02:19] <Paradoxx> the machine in question will b my server machin
[02:19] <bob2> linukso: you might need a combination of them
[02:19] <corza> bob2: well i'm trying to stop gdm so i can install nvidia
[02:19] <cdc> sorry but channel cedega is too quiet
[02:20] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:20] <bz0b> cdc, PM me
[02:20] <bob2> cdc: it's still not in Ubuntu, sorry
[02:20] <cdc> wait
[02:20] <thoreauputic> pc22: use your 1337 searching skilz on the wiki if that doesn't help you
[02:20] <bob2> cdc: try taking advnatge of the paid supprot you presumably got
[02:20] <LethAL-Rocks> linukso: Are you using linux-image-686-smp?
[02:20] <bob2> corza: ah, so the instructions are broken.  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <linukso> bob2:it mainly a problem with nautilus and gnome-panel. I run gentoo on a identical machine with no X, and I have no trouble with that.
[02:20] <bz0b> cdc god damnit i am going to send you the .deb just pm me
[02:20] <linukso> LethAL-Rocks: yes
[02:20] <LethAL-Rocks> Ah
[02:20] <LethAL-Rocks> linukso: That's ok then ;)
[02:20] <bob2> linukso: nautilus and gnome-panel are not going to be related to kernel interupt errors
[02:21] <cafuego_> bz0b: Please refrain from sharing warez here.
[02:21] <corza> bob2: that doesnt allow me to install 3d support :|
[02:21] <bob2> bz0b: this is not a wzrez channel
[02:21] <linukso> bob2: but it its those apps that hang... :(
[02:21] <bz0b> cafuego, is it warez to give him the .deb?
[02:21] <bob2> corza: except for the bit where it explains how to install the nvidia binary drivers
[02:21] <Paradoxx> bob2 i want to b able to do everything with the machine essentially
[02:21] <linukso> I will try noacpi nolapic and irqpoll
[02:21] <bob2> Paradoxx: yes, that is what ssh does
[02:21] <cafuego_> bz0b: It's payware, so yes. it is.
[02:21] <cdc> am offering you a chat now
[02:21] <cafuego_> bz0b: If he wants the deb, he can buy it from the manufacturer.
[02:22] <Paradoxx> bob2 bzob was saying somthing about a gui?
[02:22] <bob2> cdc: bz0b take it out of off-channel
[02:22] <corza> bob2: that still doesnt allow me to do that
[02:22] <josip> Talking about cedega ? Compiling it from the CVS is completely legal IIRC.
[02:22] <bob2> Paradoxx: do you know what ssh is?
[02:22] <bob2> josip: bz0b is not talking about that
[02:22] <bob2> corza: dude
[02:22] <Paradoxx> secure login s/w
[02:22] <bob2> corza: this is where you explain in what way those instructions don't work
[02:22] <Paradoxx> command line stuff, was reading up on it awhile ago
[02:22] <bob2> corza: since they worked for 10 000 other people
[02:22] <setite> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=42949
[02:22] <setite> HP shipping ubuntu pcs http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=42949
[02:22] <bob2> Paradoxx: right, so you don't need a gui, you login from a terminal
[02:22] <bob2> setite: old news
[02:23] <corza> bob2: i'm sure the instructions work but just arent doing what i need it to do
[02:23] <setite> i know but not everyone can know
[02:23] <bob2> corza: dude
[02:23] <corza> bob2: because i have followed everything it has said
[02:23] <bz0b> well they give source then i dont understand why they cant just give all forms of it
[02:23] <corza> bob2: and it doesnt allow me to play 3d games
[02:23] <bz0b> technically, you can use the source to make it a .deb
[02:23] <bob2> corza: then explain which bit does not work
[02:23] <bob2> bz0b: no more warnings
[02:23] <Russ[] > can someone help me with my microphone looping back?
[02:23] <bz0b> bob2, sorry, ok done
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> unloop it..
[02:23] <corza> bob2: i dont know which bit doesnt work.
[02:23] <Russ[] > lsuactiafner: how do i do that?
[02:24] <bob2> corza: so, go and do it again, then put your X log, X config and the error from the programs on pastebin.ca
[02:24] <zblach> hi again
[02:24] <lsuactiafner> no idea..
[02:24] <cafuego_> bz0b: The compiled one is DIFFERENT from the one you cna compile from source.
[02:24] <LethAL-Rocks> !tell me about rt2500
[02:24] <scumbo> Russ[] , I cured my looped microphone by turning it off in the mixer.
[02:24] <Paradoxx> bob2 it is telling me connection refused
[02:25] <bob2> Paradoxx: did you install the ssh daemon on the other machine?
[02:25] <Paradoxx> no >.<
[02:25] <Russ[] > scumbo, I'm looking in the gui version of the alsa-mixer and i don't see anything about it
[02:25] <bob2> Paradoxx: there you go then
[02:25] <thoreauputic> Paradoxx: it isn't magic you know
[02:26] <bob2> Paradoxx: openssh-server is the package you want
[02:26] <Paradoxx> :D ty much
[02:26] <scumbo> Russ[] , I used the tty alsamixer.  It was a matter of hitting either spacebar or M (don't remember which), and it toggled.
[02:26] <bz0b> cafuego, mind being a little more specific, i didnt quite get that, even though it seems pretty straight forward
[02:26] <Paradoxx> thoreauputic: i'm a linux newb, take it ez with me :D
[02:26] <Cashel> wow you guys wanna feel stupid, play four-in-a-row
[02:26] <thoreauputic> Paradoxx: sorry, point taken :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Paradoxx: I was kind of kidding really :)
[02:27] <Paradoxx> thoreauputic: i kno :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> OK ;)
[02:27] <bob2> bz0b: for instance, you don't have any permission at all to distribute the binary .deb, and it includes various bug fixes and support for copy protected cds that the source on SF does not
[02:27] <cafuego_> bz0b: the precompiled payware one includes support for copy-protection emulation.
[02:27] <Russ[] > scumbo, I have 2 sound cards, do you know how to open a alsamixer for a different soundcard than the default one?
[02:27] <bz0b> ah, i see
[02:27] <bz0b> thanks a lot
[02:28] <scumbo> Russ[] , not a clue.
[02:28] <bz0b> well, i paid for it, and i guess since its not too expensive, others might consider paying too, if they want to play games, after all
[02:28] <zblach> how to run an executable. it isn't an ".exe", but nautilus calls it an executable
[02:28] <zblach> it has no file extension
[02:28] <scumbo> Russ[] , looks like alsa-mixer -c <cardnum> might do the trick.
[02:28] <bob2> zblach: you mean from the terminal? type it's name.
[02:29] <corza> bob2: i redid it. and it still does not allow me to use 3d graphics.
[02:29] <Russ[] > wrong -c argument '/dev/dsp1'
[02:29] <bob2> corza: did you read what I said?
[02:29] <bob2> corza: "then put your X log, X config and the error from the programs on pastebin.ca
[02:29] <bz0b> anyone mind telling me how i can use something like, e.g. cdrecord, to burn breezy's iso to a cd?
[02:29] <scumbo> Russ[] , in the man page it looks like just a number: alsa-mixer -c 1
[02:29] <Russ[] > yah
[02:29] <Russ[] > im getting it
[02:30] <Russ[] > thanks alot
[02:30] <scumbo> Russ[] , no worries.
[02:30] <bob2> bz0b: sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blah.iso
[02:30] <corza> bob2: okay.. i can do that but i'm just trying to explain to you that there is no error.. but there is no alterations or changes in my graphics.
[02:30] <zblach> bob2, when i type the name into the terminal (in the right path) it just tells me 'command not found'
[02:30] <bz0b> bob2, thanks, gotta remember that
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : man cdrecord the first example cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0 cdimage.raw  umm dev=/dev/dvd also does the trick
[02:30] <bob2> corza: I don't know what you expect to happen, but no one can help you without that information
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> you can ignore speed=2
[02:31] <thoreauputic> zblach: if you are in the directory use ./nameoffile
[02:31] <bob2> lsuactiafner: yes, I know how to use cdrecord. dev=2,0 is deprecated with modern kernels.
[02:31] <bob2> zblach: what thoreauputic said
[02:31] <bz0b> it actually did it all automatically
[02:31] <lsuactiafner> oh bz0b asked..
[02:31] <pinucset> one think, how can i do to see one divx file from an ubuntu live and the divx is at windows hd?
[02:31] <lsuactiafner> why am i helping ppl...
[02:32] <corza> bob2: where is my x log?
[02:32] <zblach> thoreauputic, hrm. different error now. "undefined symbol: __glutRoot'
[02:32] <bob2> corza: /var/log/
[02:32] <bob2> zblach: the program was compiled in correctly
[02:32] <thoreauputic> zblach: what are you trying to run?
[02:32] <Paradoxx> woot, its up :D thx much bob2
[02:33] <theturtle> hrmm, trying to decide, should i go with ubuntu or mandriva :/  h rmm
[02:33] <Paradoxx> now i just need to learn the linux command equivalents to the stuff i want to do, and i'll b good
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> how many movies should i pirate onto my hard disk before authorities take legal action?
[02:33] <zblach> thoreauputic, its an old game: Uplink
[02:33] <bob2> theturtle: just use ubuntu, you'll end up on it anyway
[02:33] <thoreauputic> theturtle: you expect an unbiased opinion here ? *grin*
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> like 200? 10000?
[02:33] <bob2> lsuactiafner: this appears to be entirely unrelated to ubuntu
[02:33] <theturtle> oh isn't this the mandriva channel
[02:33] <theturtle> :D
[02:33] <bob2> by that I mean, "go away"
[02:34] <corza> bob2: http://pastebin.ca/22637
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : it is.. but since i bother to asnwer 20 questions here a day related to ubuntu i think i can ask 1 unrelated question
[02:34] <nalioth> Paradoxx: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> when do authorities start to bother... linux geeks know answers to such questions..
[02:34] <dabaR> ez-ipupdate listens to an interface, and updates the dynamic dns server about changes to that interface. However, where I am trying to set it up uses a router, so the interfaces on the computer are static. Would anyone have any ideas as to how to go around that?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: you are totally off topic
[02:34] <bob2> corza: well, you didn't follow the howto, so go try again
[02:35] <corza> bob2: but i did follow the howto..
[02:36] <bob2> corza: then it would be using the nvidia driver instead of the nv, but it's not
[02:36] <corza> bob2: it doesnt say that anywhere in the howto
[02:36] <bob2> corza: try one more time
[02:36] <corza> bob2: it says that in the nvidia setup but u told me not to use that.
[02:37] <theturtle> "; an enhanced tool for easily installing new applications;"
[02:37] <theturtle> what is this? saw this on a post from distrowatch
[02:37] <bob2> corza: so, I have no idea what "the nvidia setup" means
[02:37] <bob2> corza: the nvidia-glx-config command is supposed to make the change for you, and the howto I told you to use tells you to run it
[02:37] <corza> bob2: www.nvidia.com drivers. setup instructions.
[02:37] <bob2> corza: ignore them
[02:37] <bob2> theturtle: a) distrowatch is useless, b) presumably gnome-app-install
[02:37] <rcdarkangel> can i mount a windows xp drive under linux if so how?
[02:38] <theturtle> distrowatch useless, its awesome
[02:38] <bob2> rcdarkangel: ubuntuguide.org
[02:38] <bob2> it's "awesome" if all you care about is reading about new obscure distributions
[02:38] <thoreauputic> corza: I told you an hour ago not to use the web page instructions :/
[02:38] <bob2> if you're already using Linux as your OS, you already have a working system
[02:39] <kemik> !tell rcdarkangel about ntfs
[02:40] <theturtle> bob2, i do,
[02:40] <bob2> okiedokie
[02:40] <kemik> bob2:  debian and ubuntu doesnt conform to LSB right?
[02:40] <maddler> help: how do I change alt-tab behaviour in gnome?
[02:40] <theturtle> has good info on there, what distros are popular, links to reviews about them, as well as just like you said, short snippets about new or obscure distros
[02:40] <bob2> depends which version of the LSB
[02:41] <bob2> maddler: system -> prerfecnes -> key bindings
[02:41] <maddler> eh...
[02:41] <bob2> reviews of distros are rarely useful, tho
[02:41] <maddler> bob2: I need alt-tab to show all active windows...
[02:41] <maddler> bob2: and can't configure that from shortcuts...
[02:41] <theturtle> yeah for the most part
[02:41] <maddler> afaik...
[02:41] <jc-denton> hi all
[02:41] <jc-denton> i've got another question
[02:41] <theturtle> at best its a nice directory of what distros are out there
[02:41] <theturtle> btw u should like it ubuntu is #1 most popular on their list :D
[02:41] <cdc> i just finished installing cedega
[02:42] <jc-denton> is it possible (w/o trouble) to install breezy on an external firewire hd
[02:42] <rcdarkangel> thank you very much kemik!
[02:42] <bob2> maddler: is that even possible?
[02:42] <cdc> how can i run it?
[02:42] <dabaR> maddler: the os X thing?
[02:42] <bob2> theturtle: yes, their statistics are also useless
[02:42] <bob2> cdc: #cedega
[02:42] <maddler> bob2: that's what I'm trying to discover...
[02:42] <cdc> #cedega is quiet
[02:42] <bob2> jc-denton: yes, it's unlikely that your BIOS can boot a firewire disk, tho
[02:42] <jc-denton> bob2: but grub?
[02:42] <maddler> dabaR: maybe...  basically I was used that way on kde ;)
[02:42] <jonphilpott> mine can
[02:42] <jonphilpott> well it can do usb, i suspect it can do fw too
[02:42] <bob2> jc-denton: grub probably can, but I bet your bios can't
[02:42] <corza> bob2: okay 3d is now working so are these the latest nvidia drivers?
[02:43] <dabaR> maddler: I dont know what you want.
[02:43] <jc-denton> humm
[02:43] <dabaR> maddler: not that I would know how to set it up anyhow...
[02:43] <jc-denton> i think too that the bios can't
[02:43] <bob2> corza: so, seriously...when you said you followed the guide, you hadn't actually run all the commands it told you to?
[02:43] <dabaR> nalioth_zZz: about time...
[02:43] <cdc> see channel cedega is useless
[02:43] <jc-denton> but if i can make an entry so grub can boot..
[02:43] <bob2> cdc: then talk to transgaming; you gave them money, they owe you support
[02:43] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: c'mon man, i've got a sick puter to deal with
[02:43] <corza> bob2: yes i had followed everything. the nvidia-glx-config didnt work. i had to go in and manually change it
[02:43] <maddler> dabaR: thx anyway... :)
[02:43] <dabaR> nalioth_zZz: I woke up...
[02:44] <dabaR> nalioth_zZz: we are in the same time zone...
[02:44] <bob2> corza: great...do file a bug about it not printing an error, tho
[02:44] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: i work sat and sun from 6p to 6a
[02:45] <dabaR> ah.
[02:45] <jc-denton> i mean if i tell ubuntu not to do anything with my bootloader
[02:45] <bob2> cdc: please don't /msg me
[02:45] <jc-denton> then the only problem would be to tell grub how to boot from the firewire hd
[02:45] <corza> bob2: okay no prob.. so these are the newest drivers?
[02:45] <bob2> cdc: and not having a credit card does not make discussion of improperly-obtained cedega debs on-topic
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !msg
[02:45] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[02:45] <bob2> corza: nope
[02:46] <lsuactiafner> corza : glxinfo | grep direct
[02:46] <lsuactiafner> what do you get?
[02:46] <corza> yes
[02:46] <Lie-Algebra> hi, how I am supposed to set the level of bass, its currently too loud for general use ? I am using alsa and it seems not  possible to increase/decrease bass*
[02:46] <corza> Direct Rendering: yes
[02:46] <bob2> lsuactiafner: corza has it working...
[02:46] <Madeye> ops
[02:46] <Madeye> err
[02:46] <lsuactiafner> ah k
[02:47] <corza> bob2: i'm just not sure if it will handle Guild Wars with older drivers..
[02:47] <bob2> corza: why don't you just run it already?
[02:47] <Madeye> do you think i'll face much troubles if i upgrade from warty to breezy skipping Hoary ?
[02:47] <corza> bob2: i need to buy cedega
[02:47] <bob2> Madeye: yes
[02:47] <DaMi3n> i am unable to make my panels transparent at higher resolu/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>ions
[02:47] <DaMi3n> i am unable to make my panels transparent at higher resolutions
[02:47] <Madeye> bob2, god bless you. thanks
[02:48] <dabaR> Lie-Algebra: general level, I see. Perhaps use the equalizer of a particular app.
[02:48] <bob2> DaMi3n: transset is known to be flakey
[02:48] <thoreauputic> DaMi3n: you'd better change you password mate
[02:48] <B|ueMat> I have tried getting remote desktop to work on an ubuntu box, i then installed VNC server - I want to view from another linux box & a windows machine, Ive opened the necessary ports on my firewall but still no luck, anyone successfully got VNC working on ubuntu?
[02:49] <cdc> can you see if this correct?
[02:49] <DaMi3n> thoreauputic i dint type my pwd did i??
[02:49] <nalioth_zZz> DaMi3n: and choose a better one, while your'e at it
[02:49] <cdc> cedega /mnt/cdrom0/install.exe
[02:49] <thoreauputic> DaMi3n: Ah you mixed in some channel help I guess
[02:49] <GNU-GPL> cdc, or use point2play
[02:49] <bob2> B|ueMat: using non-alphanumeric characters in your nick is annoying...
[02:49] <DaMi3n> bob2 : well it works at lower resolutions
[02:50] <bob2> B|ueMat: also, back up and explain whether you have it working at all, locally
[02:50] <thoreauputic> DaMi3n: mt bad
[02:50] <thoreauputic> my bad
[02:50] <DaMi3n> thoreauputic XD
[02:50] <bob2> DaMi3n: "flakey".  try #freedesktop
[02:50] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, ya'll know if QEMU will work with Win64?
[02:50] <corza> cdc: did u buy cedega?
[02:50] <cdc> nope corza
[02:50] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: google really had nothing to say on the topic?
[02:50] <corza> cdc: can i msg u?
[02:50] <ThePyromaniac> or any other cool way i can get WoW working on my AMD64 build of ubuntu ^^
[02:50] <cdc> sure corza
[02:50] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 not that i can find no
[02:50] <jc-denton> and there is a binary on the install disk called httpd
[02:50] <jc-denton> what does it do?
[02:51] <bob2> dudes, this cedega crap is off-topic
[02:51] <bob2> no more
[02:51] <GNU-GPL> bob2, why?
[02:51] <B|ueMat> bob2, no cant even gewt it running locally.. rules out firewall issues etc
[02:51] <bob2> GNU-GPL: because this is not a channel for support of improperly-obtained copies of cedega
[02:51] <Russ[] > can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sb live card?
[02:51] <GNU-GPL> bob2, true..
[02:51] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:51] <bob2> jc-denton: presumably a http server...
[02:51] <BirdyKiller> anyone have any idea how to disable laptop's touchpad through software?  no option in bios, and I can't find anything online.
[02:52] <cevizoglu> not to mention, there's 73 people on cedega right now
[02:52] <linukso> bob2: acpi=off noapic and nolapic worked. Thanks, the machine is still running stable :D
[02:52] <bob2> linukso: np
[02:52] <B|ueMat> bob2, actually I can get it running locally now, vncviewer localhost:1 - Where could I see a log for vnc, my firewall isnt blocking it
[02:53] <gf> anyone know where i can apt-get mythtv for breezy?
[02:53] <bob2> probably because "win64" is not a useful name of anything
[02:53] <DaMi3n> bob2 no replies in #freedesktop *sigh*
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i am looing at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ossupport.html
[02:54] <bob2> DaMi3n: then try their list or such, or the ubuntu-users one
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> here is says nothing of the 64 bit version. but here:
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[02:55] <Bluemat> my nick better now :-)
[02:55] <nalioth_zZz> yes Bluemat much more spiffy
[02:55] <Bluemat> bob2, Any ideas on this VNC issue?
[02:55] <GNU-GPL> Blue, i liked the one with the pipe more
[02:55] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:56] <BirdyKiller> oh well, maybe there's somewhere else I can look for help.. thanks anyways guys
[02:56] <bob2> Bluemat: /var/log?
[02:56] <bob2> BirdyKiller: google really knew nothing?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: you IRC even while asleep? Impressive! ;-0
[02:56] <Russ[] > can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sb live card?
[02:57] <Bluemat> heheh
[02:57] <bob2> Russ[] : dude, time to try somewhere else
[02:57] <Bluemat> woot woot
[02:57] <bob2> Russ[] : did you get a reply in the ubunt-users list?
[02:57] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic: why not? i dispatch taxis while others are asleep
[02:57] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: :)
[02:57] <GNU-GPL> Bluemat, this is highly annoying.. use b|uemat again, so i can use the tab key again
[02:57] <GNU-GPL> :P
[02:58] <Bluemat> GNU-GPL, :-)
[02:58] <setite_JackInThe> whats the package for windows fonts
[02:58] <dreameen> hey
[02:58] <bob2> setite_JackInThe: msttcorefots
[02:58] <nalioth_zZz> setite_JackInThe: msttcorefonts
[02:58] <dreameen> how do you set up screen lock in ubuntu?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> dreameen: run xscreensaver-demo
[02:59] <dreameen> k
[02:59] <dreameen> thnx
[02:59] <dreameen> g2g, laters
[03:00] <Bluemat> bob2, when I try to VNC from a Fedora box to this an Ubuntu box I get the following: Error: Cant open display
[03:00] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: I can't seem to find the thread I was thinking of on qemu-devel, sorry
[03:00] <bob2> Bluemat: ok
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Elvis has left the building!
[03:01] <Bluemat> bob2, Is there somewhere, where I have to specify a session for it to use like, 'startkde', whats the equivalent for gnome?
[03:02] <cevizoglu> what's the best source of stats for the number of people running different distros?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Bluemat: gnome-session
[03:02] <Twibbler> bluemat X11vnc
[03:02] <bob2> cevizoglu: there isn't one
[03:03] <bob2> perhaps looking at a broad cross-section of web server logs would help
[03:03] <bob2> but lots of people use unbranded web browsers
[03:03] <cevizoglu> is there a wiki for installing mythtv?  it's failing when I install mythtv-database
[03:03] <bob2> Bluemat: don't know, and gnome-session
[03:03] <Bluemat> thoreauputic, wheres the config file for specifying that? before I remember there was a conf file in my home dir, .vnc...
[03:03] <bob2> cevizoglu: perhaps if you showed us the error...?
[03:03] <bob2> in #flood
[03:03] <lapo> hi
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Bluemat: I don't know, sorry
[03:04] <lapo> does anybody know how to do an uspash image? Or where the current on is located on the filesystem?
[03:04] <lapo> current one
[03:05] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 ok nevermind mate, thanks
[03:06] <cevizoglu> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2080
[03:07] <cevizoglu> bob2: when I dpkg-reconfigure, I still get the same problem
[03:08] <Twibbler> Bluemat: I use X11vnc to connect Fedora to Ubuntu ....
[03:08] <bob2> cevizoglu: that sounds like mysql is screwed
[03:08] <bob2> or you gave it the wrong password again
[03:09] <godzirra> Anyone have problems with firefox?
[03:09] <godzirra> Its freezing up on me -a lot-.
[03:09] <cevizoglu> bob2: I don't remember giving a pwd to mysql, but I might have done it a long time ago and forgotten...
[03:09] <bob2> cevizoglu: no, to mythtv
[03:09] <bob2> godzirra: if it's reproducible and hits newly created users on your machine, file a bug
[03:10] <Bluemat> Twibbler, go on? there is no XStartup file in my .vnc folder in home dir, i remember config'ing that on a different system, can you help?
[03:10] <cevizoglu> bob2: it doesn't ask for a password a second time when I try to reinstall mythtv-database
[03:10] <Twibbler> bluemat: be happy to ....
[03:10] <cevizoglu> bob2: it did the very first time, then failed the first time and thereafter
[03:10] <bob2> cevizoglu: indeed, reinstalling will not help
[03:11] <bob2> cevizoglu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mythtv-watever
[03:11] <bob2> this conditioned "it's broke, let's reinstall" response is disturbing
[03:11] <cevizoglu> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is broken or not fully installed
[03:12] <Bluemat> Twibbler, If I "vncviewer localhost:1" I get a blank type screen, so Im assuming I have no session associated with it, where do I specify it?
[03:12] <bob2> sudo dpkg -P mythtv-database, then
[03:12] <bob2> if that doesn't work, you may have to hack the prerm
[03:13] <Twibbler> bluemat: just looking for the techie bits for the command line interface ..... (haven't got laptop here to check)..... unless you can wait a few hours until I get home where I have all the info on the laptop ...(still at work)...
[03:13] <Bluemat> Twibbler, Id be grateful for any help sooner the better but heh, if you can find it, would be great
[03:14] <cevizoglu> bob2: that worked, thx I have mythtv  :)
[03:14] <Twibbler> Bluemat: again on ubuntu use the X11vnc ..... It works with Fedora ....
[03:15] <Bluemat> Twibbler, I dont understand, new enough to this stuff, whats the diff with X11vnc etc?
[03:15] <snausages> is there a way to put my computer to sleep? is that "hibernate" ?
[03:16] <bob2> depends
[03:16] <Daemonic> can someone tell me what I need to apt-get to get a kde (kubuntu) desktop?
[03:16] <bob2> hibernate = suspend to disk
[03:16] <Twibbler> Bluemat: found the complete setup info but not sure where to paste it ... I know I shouldn't do it here ....
[03:16] <bob2> Daemonic: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:16] <snausages> how about sleep
[03:16] <bob2> Daemonic: then #kubuntu
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Daemonic: kubuntu-desktop
[03:16] <Daemonic> thanks.
[03:16] <bob2> snausages: suspend-to-ram is highly hardware-sensitive
[03:16] <thenuke> Daemonic: did you try searching repos for kubuntu or kde?
[03:17] <Bluemat> Twibbler, pastebin.com
[03:17] <snausages> bob2, which means?
[03:17] <Twibbler> bluemat: sending you a file with all the info you need.. small text file ... ok ?.
[03:17] <bob2> snausages: huh?
[03:17] <Bluemat> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:17] <bob2> it means it depends on your hardware
[03:17] <snausages> snausages: suspend-to-ram is highly hardware-sensitive
[03:18] <snausages> bob2, that
[03:18] <Bluemat> Twibbler, File transfer blocked
[03:18] <bob2> snausages: as above
[03:18] <snausages> bob2, so i cannot put it to sleep?
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Twibbler: maybe paste the file on the pastebin if he has dcc issues
[03:19] <Twibbler> Bluemat: windoze (crap)  I will be happy when it is an ubuntu desktop ... in a couple of weeks. anyway going to paste as you stated ...
[03:19] <bob2> snausages: dude
[03:19] <bob2> snausages: read what I said
[03:19] <bob2> snausages: it depends on your hardware.  some works, some does not.
[03:19] <bob2> you haven't told us what hardware this is yet.
[03:19] <theeil> my LAMP (php) server is not working: Warning: (null)(): Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[03:20] <Bluemat> Twibbler, FYI I just connected from fedora box using Krdc, I can connect but therer is no session, its justa blank screen, where can I conf this?
[03:20] <snausages> bob2, i'm sorry... i'm sleepy.
[03:20] <bob2> theeil: that's a bug in your php code
[03:21] <Twibbler> Bluemat: pasted all the config info into paste.ubuntulinux.nl .... have a look I think it will answer all your questions ...
[03:21] <moparfan90> hello. does anyone know a virtual CD program?
[03:21] <Twibbler> Bluemat: It tells you which files to configure and how .....
[03:21] <bob2> moparfan90: it's easier if you just tell us what you're trying to do
[03:21] <bob2> if your question is "How can I mount a CD image?", then that's trivial
[03:21] <theeil> bob2: <?php phpinfo (); ?>
[03:22] <pepperpot> My mouse wheel doesn't work anymore. Cat /dev/input/mice shows no activity when I scroll the wheel. The logs say that it is a generic mouse. Is that the problem? Is there a problem with the kernel?
[03:22] <Twibbler> Bluemat: Oh and it works very very well.... I use it all the time for customers and support... can even use it to take over wins PC's ...
[03:22] <moparfan90> i have a .iso file and want to mount it. i think
[03:22] <bob2> theeil: and the url to your apache error log is?
[03:22] <bob2> moparfan90: there you go, say that, then
[03:22] <bob2> moparfan90: sudo modprobe loop
[03:22] <moparfan90> whats that do?
[03:23] <bob2> moparfan90: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt
[03:23] <bob2> moparfan90: those two commands mount it.  then look in /mnt/
[03:23] <moparfan90> ok
[03:23] <bob2> pepperpot: "anymore"? what did you change since it last worked?
[03:23] <pepperpot> bob2, it's been a while since I had to reboot. I had some apt-get upgrades in the interim. :(
[03:23] <Twibbler> Bluemat: please replace the link with your machine info ip ...
[03:23] <HappyFool> if you just want to look inside an iso, you an also just double-click on it in nautilus
[03:23] <bob2> etc etc etc
[03:23] <thoreauputic> pepperpot: do you have zaxis mapping 4 5 in your xorg.conf ?
[03:24] <theeil> bob2: like /var/log/apache2/error.log?
[03:24] <bob2> theeil: yes
[03:24] <bob2> so hungry
[03:24] <pepperpot> thoreauputic, yes. But I don't think it's xorg related since catting /dev/input/mice directly shows no response to wheel scrolling
[03:25] <thoreauputic> pepperpot: sounds obvious, but is your mouse broken ? ;)
[03:25] <theeil> bob2: there is no entry in the apache log
[03:25] <pepperpot> thoreauputic, no. And the weird thing is that with gnoppix the scroll wheel works
[03:26] <thoreauputic> pepperpot: ah weird indeed
[03:26] <bob2> theeil: and the url is?
[03:26] <pepperpot> thoreauputic, i wonder if it has to do with my kernel identifying my mouse as generic
[03:26] <bob2> pepperpot: gnoppix is byte-for-byte identical to ubuntu live cd
[03:27] <theeil> bob2: to the file that was being loaded: /index.php (/var/www/index.php)
[03:27] <thoreauputic> pepperpot: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:27] <bob2> theeil: no, to your log
[03:27] <pepperpot> thoreauputic, that's the first thing i did
[03:27] <bob2> asking you a jillion questions about it's contents it too annoying
[03:27] <thoreauputic> pepperpot: OK just covering the bases :)
[03:27] <bob2> so I want you to put it somewhere so I can just look at it
[03:27] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu should join the DCC aliance http://dccalliance.org/
[03:27] <bob2> if you'd done it when I first asked, you'd probably have fixed it and be drinking beer by now
[03:28] <bob2> haha DCC
[03:28] <pepperpot> thoreauputic, I spent hours on xorg before tryhing to cat /dev/input/mice directly and found out that there was nothing coming out of there from the scroll wheel
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> bob2:  why?
[03:29] <theeil> bob2: http://theeil.hopto.org/error.log
[03:29] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: they appear to be as useless as unitedlinux and userlinux were
[03:29] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'd like to see CNN Video, but it says that I need Windows Media Player 9.How can I do?
[03:29] <jc-denton> humm
[03:29] <bob2> it will run fine
[03:29] <jc-denton> ok i figured out that grub is not able to boot from it
[03:29] <bob2> booting will be the issue
[03:29] <hermez> hey, I am new to linux in general... tried to install ubuntu 5.04 earlier today. had no problems but I couldn't access my network eventhough I configured IP adr etc correct. now I am back with windows and had no problems accessing my network (multiuser - university network). It should be possible to access with linux pc. Any suggestions?
[03:29] <jc-denton> yes
[03:29] <bob2> Alex_BO: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:29] <jc-denton> but now i just move the kernel to my ide hd to get rid of the problem
[03:29] <bob2> hermez: show us your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:30] <jc-denton> kernel boots, but it doesn't find the root file sys
[03:30] <theeil> bob2: but i did the perl stuff before testing php
[03:30] <hermez> bob2: i will try to, i am on a windows machine now
[03:30] <bob2> theeil: that url is not loading
[03:30] <jc-denton> i read that the ubuntu kernel will even recognize bluetooth keyboards, so why doesn't it find my hd?
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: the whole point is to create a debian core so that Linux can be customized easily and make it easier to make one's own linux distro, which could be a good thing for the corporate community because companies can start (like Progeny) creating custom distros
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> for example, Anaconda's been ported
[03:31] <bob2> jc-denton: er
[03:31] <bob2> jc-denton: you know the difference between "recognizes" and "is able to boot from", right?
[03:31] <larsrohdin> hi, how can i check my samba shares? if I don't know if i've shared something or not
[03:31] <theeil> bob2: sorry, firewall, try again
[03:31] <jc-denton> bob2: no?
[03:31] <bob2> jc-denton: adding enough modules to get firewire working to the initrd should fix that
[03:32] <jc-denton> well it boots
[03:32] <bob2> jc-denton: it's not booting successfully
[03:32] <bob2> it can't load your firewire driver until it's mounted /
[03:32] <jc-denton> no the kernel boots
[03:32] <bob2> which is on firewire
[03:32] <bob2> I'm sure you see why that won't work...
[03:32] <Alex_BO> Is today the software freedom day?
[03:32] <jc-denton> ah the module is the problem
[03:32] <bob2> initrd is a special file that the bootloader lods
[03:32] <jc-denton> ok
[03:32] <bob2> stick the module in there
[03:32] <jc-denton> yes i know
[03:32] <Raptoid> bob2 naber ?
[03:32] <jc-denton> and i saw that ubuntu uses initrd
[03:32] <bob2> is "naber" a word?
[03:32] <jc-denton> so i thought it would not be a problem
[03:33] <bob2> firewire is not in the initrd
[03:33] <jc-denton> bob2: how can i add this module to initrd?
[03:33] <bob2> I'm not even sure if it will work
[03:33] <Twibbler> Bluemat: did that answer your questions ....
[03:33] <bob2> perhaps they need userspave magic, too
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> why can't ubuntu be like slack and other distros (possible troll btw) which dont use an initrd?
[03:33] <bob2> man mkinitrd
[03:33] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: because then it won't be able to boot on everything like it can now
[03:33] <jc-denton> userspave magic?
[03:33] <DaMi3n> in linux where do we use this 1>&2 ??
[03:33] <hermez> bob2: that information (/etc/network/interfaces) - can I find it in netwotk settings?
[03:33] <bob2> DaMi3n: do you know what a stream is?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> hyperactivecrond: flamebait? *g*
[03:34] <bob2> hermez: if you're using that to setu pyour network, I have no idea
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> thoreauputic: apparently :\
[03:34] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: progeny alraedy makes custom distros
[03:34] <DaMi3n> bob2: yes
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: read
[03:34] <newborn> is it possible to have a different refresh rate in xorg for a multimonitor setup? ive got a LCD at 75 (which wont run at 85) and the CRT runs at 75 too and lookes horrible
[03:34] <endy_x> Alex_BO, September 10th was software freedom day afaik
[03:34] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: read waht? I've been following the DCC stupidity entirely too closely
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> s/(like progeny)/like progeny does
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: my message above
[03:34] <pepperpot> okay i found something to try
[03:34] <bob2> DaMi3n: it redirects stdout to stderr
[03:35] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: yes I read it
[03:35] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: they should all shut up until they actually have code
[03:35] <DaMi3n> bob2: why would anyone do that??
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: they do
[03:35] <bob2> all this stupid distro posturing is annoying
[03:35] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: really? where dod I download their "core"?
[03:35] <theeil> bob2: http://theeil.hopto.org/error.log should work now
[03:35] <bob2> DaMi3n: I don't know
[03:36] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: lemme check my mailing lists brb
[03:36] <bob2> theeil: dude
[03:36] <bob2> theeil: your system is messed up
[03:36] <Bluemat> Twibbler, just messing with it now
[03:36] <DaMi3n> bob2: i mean like echo "hello" 1>&2; gives the same thing as echo "hello";
[03:36] <theeil> bob2: i'm aware of that
[03:36] <bob2> theeil: is it vert surprising that php is boned?
[03:36] <bob2> DaMi3n: yes, stderr and stdout by default both go to your screen?
[03:36] <Twibbler> Bluemat: have fun ....
[03:37] <theeil> bob2: i just want to know how to fix it
[03:37] <bob2> theeil: "someone" told php about mysql
[03:37] <bob2> but didn't really install the module
[03:37] <bob2> (at a guess, I avoid php like ebola-infected plague rats)
[03:38] <theeil> bob2: that was all before the perl stuff, that was before testing php
[03:38] <cdc> guys i just wnt to un-install software. how?
[03:38] <HappyFool> can rats get ebola?
[03:38] <HappyFool> cdc: tried using synaptic?
[03:38] <bob2> theeil: what does that sentence mean?
[03:38] <bob2> cdc: how did you install it?
[03:39] <Raptoid> #ubuntu.tr offical ubuntu turkish channel..
[03:39] <LasseL> can you recommend a good mysql frontend?
[03:39] <bob2> Raptoid: that's great, but unrelated to this discussion or channel
[03:39] <HappyFool> Raptoid: feel like adding a 'tr' factoid to ubotu ?
[03:39] <IcE-bOy> hi
[03:39] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: so it's like ubuntu, but more out of date?
[03:39] <fblade> hey guys i was just wondering if theres any way of faking a resalution, so everything is smaller
[03:39] <theeil> bob2: first i tried phpmyadmin (works :S), then perl (fixed), then php, none of the php stuff has been loged
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: not necessarily
[03:40] <IcE-bOy> are there any bugzilla or some other bug report system for breezy ?
[03:40] <bob2> fblade: it's way less annoying if you tell us your goal
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> if you read it's only a pre-release
[03:40] <bob2> rather than your guess at a solution
[03:40] <LasseL> fblade, change the "dpi setting"
[03:40] <bob2> IcE-bOy: yes, /topic
[03:40] <BockBilbo> hello
[03:40] <IcE-bOy> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ :D
[03:40] <IcE-bOy> Thanks bob2
[03:40] <bob2> theeil: anyway, unbreak php, for a start
[03:41] <BockBilbo> ive just upgraded to breezy from hoary... can anyone tel lme how to make the init splash work?
[03:41] <theeil> bob2: how
[03:41] <bob2> theeil: and seriously, your question was crap
[03:41] <bob2> theeil: if I hadn't insisted 3 times that you show me your error log, we'd never know php was spewing symbol errors all over the floor
[03:41] <Jemt> Greetings :)
[03:41] <bob2> BockBilbo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:42] <cdc> bob2 how cani un-install
[03:42] <bob2> BockBilbo: which was in mdz's announce email, iirc...
[03:42] <bob2> cdc: it depends entirely on how you installed it
[03:42] <cdc> i just forgot the commands
[03:42] <fblade> bob2, sorry i mean im on 1024x728 resalution, thats the highest i can goto and it's just looks all too big for me and i was wondering if you could fale a 1280x1024 resalution as my laptop dosnt allow it
[03:42] <bob2> cdc: are you *still* talking about cedega?
[03:42] <fblade> togo higher
[03:42] <cdc> other software
[03:42] <bob2> cdc: and the name of the software is what?
[03:42] <LasseL> fblade, change the "dpi setting"
[03:42] <bob2> cdc: and how did you install it?
[03:42] <cdc> dpkg
[03:42] <fblade> Lassel: how?
[03:42] <bob2> fblade: faking resolutions has nothing to do with it?
[03:42] <cdc> dpkg install
[03:43] <theeil> bob2: it's not!, i told you three times, that was all from phpmyadmin
[03:43] <bob2> cdc: and the name of the software is...
[03:43] <LasseL> fblade, poke around for it .. maybe it is in the font settings
[03:43] <hyperactivecrond> my main complaint with ubuntu was the fact that hotplug didn't detect my usb optical mouse all of the time, but it was a solid distro... and it had apt...
[03:43] <cdc> bob have you recived my pm?
[03:43] <bob2> cdc: please don't /msg me
[03:44] <Jemt> I still have problems with my X configuration. Video Card: NVidia GF4 Ti4200 128 MB RAM. Minitor: 17" Hitachi CM320ET [1024x768 @ 85Hz] . I have installed the Nvidia drivers as described in the Wiki and tried to reconfigure X using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' - but I still can't select refresh rates greated then 60Hz. Any of your guys that can solve my problem ?
[03:44] <bob2> I've already politely asked you twice now
[03:44] <cdc> wine
[03:44] <cdc> sorry bob
[03:44] <bob2> cdc: then remove it in synaptic
[03:44] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: did you file a bug?
[03:44] <cdc> bob2 what is synaptic
[03:44] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: it was in hoary :\
[03:44] <cevizoglu> hyperactivecrond: are you going to paste your whole review or ubuntu in here, or just keep us in suspense over several hours?
[03:44] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: did you file a bug or not?
[03:44] <hyperactivecrond> cdc: synaptic is a gui backend for apt
[03:44] <chapeaurouge> how can i disable this horrible usplash screen, or change the theme?
[03:44] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: no
[03:44] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: if you have problems, you report bugs, they get fixed
[03:44] <thoreauputic> !tell cdc about synaptic
[03:45] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: whinging on IRC about other distros is not an acceptable alternative to actually reporting it
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> !synaptic
[03:45] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:45] <bob2> chapeaurouge: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:45] <cdc> thank thorue
[03:45] <chapeaurouge> thx
[03:45] <theeil> bob2: how would phpmyadmin work but not a hello world app
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: it's a bit late to file a report now...
[03:45] <thoreauputic> cdc: use your tab key to complete nicks
[03:45] <bob2> Jemt: I'm not sure that installing proprietary drivers is a good solution to arefresh rate issue
[03:45] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: why?
[03:45] <Jemt> I find it quite odd that the monitor works great in 1024 x 768 @ 75Hz on my other Ubuntu Workstation. So i'm not sure whether it is my vidoe card or my monitor that is not working right
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> and i didn't know that there was a bug reporter for hoary, considering that at the time hoary was frozen
[03:46] <bob2> theeil: restart apache.  run the script again, show us your error log again
[03:46] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: wtf
[03:46] <bob2> Jemt: did you follow the FixResolutionHowto or not?
[03:46] <cevizoglu> hyperactivecrond: yes, the bug database for hoary is still there
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> it works with coldplug... but not always hotplug...
[03:46] <Jemt> bob2: Well, thought i'd better mention it anyways. I'm pretty sure that it is the X configuration that is not right
[03:46] <Jemt> bob2: Yes, I did
[03:47] <jc-denton> humm i dont really get that with initrd
[03:47] <hyperactivecrond> ok cevizoglu
[03:47] <jc-denton> if i want to add a module i can just mount the image and copy it?
[03:47] <cevizoglu> hyperactivecrond: bugs filed for hoary are moved into breezy if they still exist
[03:47] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: and i couldn't mount an iso image either..
[03:47] <cdc> bob2 am using 5.10 the breezy badger
[03:47] <bob2> I'm not sure the normal "occasional off-topic-ness" rules stretch to non-ubunut-users talking about DCC, sorry
[03:47] <Jemt> bob2: It's pretty odd. When I look in my xorg.conf on my other Ubuntu Workstation, there is no v-sync og h-sync. But if I remove these lines on this workstation, X simply won't start
[03:48] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: then file. a. bug.
[03:48] <bob2> how on earth do you expect anything to ever get fixed if you don't tell the developers?
[03:48] <hyperactivecrond> bob2: read the /msg! i switched
[03:48] <bob2> hyperactivecrond: yes, I know
[03:48] <bob2> which makes your whinging even sillier
[03:48] <theeil> bob2: nothing is added to the log about that script
[03:48] <cevizoglu> he left to file the bug hopefully
[03:48] <voxvirus> hello
[03:48] <Jemt> bob2: Wow, now it actually seems to work ?!
[03:48] <fblade> well dsoe any body knows how force change resaulation.
[03:49] <Jemt> bob2: That is really odd
[03:49] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: hah - you *are* an optimist
[03:49] <bob2> cdc: if you're clearly a very new and inexperienced user, why are you using the development branch of ubuntu?
[03:49] <Bockbilbo> hello
[03:49] <Bockbilbo> ive got disconnected, sorry
[03:49] <Jemt> bob2: I'd better start my installation over. It is possible that I have made some bad choices during setup
[03:49] <cevizoglu> thoreauputic: if I wasn't, I'd have said something about "troll"  ;)
[03:49] <Jemt> Thanks for all your help, bob2
[03:49] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: indeed
[03:49] <Bockbilbo> i was asking if someone knows how to configure the bootsplash of breezy.. ive upgraded from hoary, but i have no bootsplash on boot
[03:49] <Bockbilbo> anyone?
[03:49] <bob2> not trolling, being whiney
[03:50] <bob2> 23:45:08           bob2 | chapeaurouge: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:50] <theeil> bob2: but it seems like whatever it is tries mysql at apache startup
[03:50] <bob2> Bockbilbo: ^^
[03:50] <chapeaurouge> bob2, better without IMO
[03:50] <chapeaurouge> i meant, Bockbilbo
[03:50] <bob2> theeil: yes, "someone" told php it had mysql support
[03:50] <Bockbilbo> chapeaurouge, what is IMO?
[03:51] <voxvirus> can someone please help me to setup a gamepad in x? (/dev/input/js0 already exists and sends events)
[03:51] <chapeaurouge> Bockbilbo, IMO = In My Opinion
[03:51] <theeil> bob2: yes, and i have mysql
[03:51] <chapeaurouge> is the ubuntu kernel inotify enabled?
[03:51] <bob2> chapeaurouge: not in hoary
[03:51] <Bockbilbo> bob2, ^^????
[03:51] <bob2> Bockbilbo: ffs
[03:51] <bob2> Bockbilbo: read the line above
[03:51] <chapeaurouge> bob2, how about breezy?
[03:52] <bob2> chapeaurouge: what does the kernel config say?
[03:52] <cdc> bob thats why am asking, i want to learn
[03:52] <Bockbilbo> bob2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) ???
[03:52] <chapeaurouge> bob2, i have no config file i guess.. i have just installed the linux-image
[03:52] <bob2> Bockbilbo: ...
[03:52] <bob2> yes
[03:52] <thoreauputic> !tell cdc about ask
[03:52] <bob2> chapeaurouge: of course you do, /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[03:52] <chapeaurouge> k, lemme look
[03:52] <bob2> cdc: you're not going to learn by swimming out into a rip and being dragged into the rocks
[03:53] <kemik> !tell kemik about ask
[03:53] <chapeaurouge> bob2, ok, it's enabled. thx
[03:53] <Bockbilbo> thanks bob2
[03:53] <voxvirus> anyone?
[03:53] <bob2> voxvirus: perhaps you need to be more specific abotu what you think it should be doing
[03:54] <voxvirus> ok
[03:55] <jc-denton> humm not sure if i should ask again
[03:55] <jc-denton> :D
[03:55] <bob2> if you're asking about initrds, it's unlikely to help
[03:55] <jc-denton> i basicall just wanted to quickly setup ubuntu on my fwhd
[03:55] <voxvirus> it's a usb HID compliant gamepad [rainbow gamepad vibration force - made by green asia] 
[03:55] <jc-denton> bob2: i need a quick solution
[03:55] <bob2> that's great
[03:55] <jc-denton> i don't want to recompile and stuff
[03:55] <bob2> but it appears no one knows any more about thatn you or I do
[03:55] <bob2> so try asking on the user list or something
[03:56] <bob2> voxvirus: so why does X care about it at all?
[03:56] <jc-denton> ok
[03:57] <chapeaurouge> anyone else having <defunct> beagle processes in breezy preview?
[03:57] <voxvirus> shouldn't x care abot it? how am i suposed to use it then?
[03:57] <bob2> presumably programs who care about joysticks know to look for it
[03:57] <bob2> why would X care?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: actually the users list is quite high traffic so you might get an answer relatively fast
[03:57] <bob2> chapeaurouge: do file a bug if no on lselse has...
[03:57] <voxvirus> i know some emulators and games use the raw dev directly
[03:57] <jc-denton> i only read the devel list
[03:57] <chapeaurouge> bob2, sure
[03:57] <bob2> yes, so X doesn't care
[03:57] <jc-denton> but thx for the tip
[03:58] <voxvirus> but.. quake 3 does not find it :$
[03:58] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: some pretty clueful people on the users list actually IMO
[03:58] <voxvirus> and aparently neither does etf
[03:58] <bob2> that sounds like a quake 3 configuration issue
[03:59] <bob2> goolge really knew *nothing* about linux, quak3 and joysticks?
[03:59] <voxvirus> hum...
[03:59] <voxvirus> nop
[03:59] <bob2> so
[03:59] <bob2> if I search, you won't look silly for not having done so?
[03:59] <voxvirus> spent yesterdays afternoon googlin
[03:59] <voxvirus> please be my guest
[04:00] <jc-denton> on the forum too it sees
[04:00] <voxvirus> maybe i screwed up
[04:00] <voxvirus> i dunno
[04:01] <voxvirus> all i know is i'm _REALLY_ clueless by now
[04:02] <oliwer> hi all. Do you know a soft that minimizes itself in tray and can be opened using a hotkey ?
[04:02] <voxvirus> i never had sound in quake in ubuntu, but i don't care much about that since i listened to music while playing anyway
[04:02] <voxvirus> but not being able to use the gamepad i bought is really bitchy :$
[04:03] <CookedGryphon> oliwer, eh?
[04:03] <CookedGryphon> oliwer, that does what?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> oliwer: erm... what on earth does that mean?
[04:03] <cevizoglu> oliwer: a soft?
[04:03] <Bockbilbo> anyone here knows why everytime i connect to freenode my firewall detects a connection attempt rom zelazny.freenode.net to the 56343 TCP port ???
[04:03] <oliwer> i don't care what it does, it is just to see its source
[04:04] <cevizoglu> oliwer: in what language? library set?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> Bockbilbo: freenode runs scans on every client, is that what you are talking about?
[04:04] <oliwer> using gtk
[04:04] <Bockbilbo> thoreauputic, no idea.. i just realized that firestarter detects a connection attemp from that domain at that port
[04:04] <Bockbilbo> :S
[04:05] <cdc> !tell cdc install
[04:05] <cevizoglu> oliwer: go to sourceforge.net and search for gtk projects
[04:05] <thoreauputic> Bockbilbo: normal, nothing to see here, move along...
[04:05] <cdc> i forgot the command to install
[04:05] <Bockbilbo> thoreauputic, ok
[04:05] <HappyFool> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:06] <ompaul> cdc apt-get intall pkg-name?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ah, the traveller returns :)
[04:06] <ompaul> so I do
[04:06] <Alex_BO> WHERE can i find w32codecs?it seems there isn't the deb package
[04:06] <oliwer> i'm coding in perl-gtk but even on the #perl-gtk chanel, nobody knows how to make an app which appears from background when pressing a hotkey
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: hoary-extras
[04:06] <ompaul> !tell Alex_BO about restricted
[04:07] <thoreauputic> !tell Alex_BO about codecs
[04:07] <bob2> oliwer: er
[04:07] <bob2> oliwer: make gnome send you a signal when someone hits a hotkey
[04:07] <thoreauputic> ompaul: not too rusty, evidently ;)
[04:08] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, I searched also into www.debian.org, but nothing
[04:08] <larsrohdin> is there a program or command to shutdown a computer on a network?
[04:08] <oliwer> bob2 > yeah... but I would like my app to run on kde to ^^
[04:08] <bob2> larsrohdin: ssh sudo shutdown -h now
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: you didn't read to the bottom of the page did you?
[04:08] <cdc> omapul, how can i install froma desktop
[04:08] <bob2> oliwer: X is not as complicated as yo uthink
[04:08] <oliwer> i'm gonna look on sf.net
[04:09] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, i've read just now
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: the url is right there on the page ubotu sent you
[04:09] <oliwer> bob2 > xlib ?
[04:09] <larsrohdin> bob2, ok, computer name after ssh or how to choose which computer?
[04:09] <CookedGryphon> cdc synaptic?
[04:09] <ompaul> cdc try synaptic ;; system - administration - synaptic package manager
[04:09] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, but what does it do?
[04:10] <ompaul> wow theres gratitude :)
[04:10] <bob2> larsrohdin: do you know how to use ssh?
[04:10] <bob2> oliwer: no, X doesn't know or care about any of the things you've mentioned
[04:11] <larsrohdin> bob2, im learning=) do i connect to the computer with ssh first?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: it tells you how - it even links to the synaptic howto
[04:11] <bob2> oliwer: why don't you just go look at how existing applications do it? e.g. tomboy.
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-4c69034d5cc6530951eee44239cdf2c2a76049c1
[04:11] <bob2> larsrohdin: no
[04:11] <bob2> larsrohdin: ssh computername sudo shutdown -h now
[04:11] <larsrohdin> bob2, ok thanks
[04:12] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, Package w32codecs is not available
[04:12] <ompaul> has the bot had a lombotamy in the last couple of days?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: ffs - of course it is
[04:12] <xerox> Hi!
[04:12] <ncp> ompaul: why+
[04:12] <xerox> Anybody uses emacs on breezy?
[04:12] <ompaul> ahh
[04:12] <larsrohdin> bob2, to activate ssh on a win xp machine, do I use services.msc or some other way?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: read the page, implement the repositories, update, install
[04:12] <bob2> larsrohdin: wtf
[04:13] <xerox> $ emacs
[04:13] <xerox> Undefined color: "WINDOW_FOREGROUND"
[04:13] <Bockbilbo> ive got another question... when booting, after the "audit ... initialized" mesaage, i get this two messages: [4294670.482000]  8139cp: pci dev 0000:02:01.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip
[04:13] <Bockbilbo> [4294670.482000]  8139cp: Try the "8139too" driver instead.
[04:13] <xerox> I get this error, any ideas? :(
[04:13] <bob2> larsrohdin: shutting down windows machines remotely is not a #ubuntu question
[04:13] <larsrohdin> bob2, if the computer I want to connect to is a windows machine
[04:13] <Bockbilbo> anyone knows how to fix that?
[04:13] <ompaul> ncp pebcak in that case :)
[04:13] <bob2> Bockbilbo: does the card still work?
[04:13] <bob2> xerox: when using emacs from ubuntu?
[04:13] <Bockbilbo> bob2, no idea, i use the wifi connection
[04:13] <xerox> bob2: nope, but it's the same
[04:14] <bob2> Bockbilbo: then ignore it
[04:14] <Daemonic> I just apt'd fluxbox and tried switching to it.. it's horribly broken, anyone else have this problem and know a fix?
[04:14] <bob2> xerox: "it's the same"?
[04:14] <Bockbilbo> bob2, ok
[04:14] <xerox> bob2: It's the same if I use the emacs21 package.
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Daemonic: yes - hold on a second
[04:14] <larsrohdin> bob2, ok sorry... Im setting up my network, im using ubuntu here, as the main machine,
[04:14] <cdc> !tell cdc dpkg
[04:14] <bob2> Daemonic: "horribly broken" doesn't sound like a specific description of a specific problem
[04:14] <ncp> Daemonic: did you get all the packetes_
[04:14] <cdc> !tell cdc installation
[04:14] <bob2> cdc: talk to the bot in /msg if you have to at all
[04:14] <Daemonic> ncp: I think so.
[04:14] <ompaul> larsrohdin, there is #windows (though only $Deity knows why)
[04:14] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, i add the repository you sent me, but it can't find nothing
[04:14] <bob2> xerox: that sounds like a x resources issue
[04:14] <xerox> bob2: during the last upgrade apt-get asked me about some file to keep or change, like "XTerm" or something I think.
[04:15] <larsrohdin> ompaul, ok
[04:15] <cdc> !
[04:15] <ncp> Daemonic: you could try removing it ( remember --purge ) an reinstall
[04:15] <ubotu> cdc: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:15] <xerox> bob2: I updated to the "mantainer's one"
[04:15] <Daemonic> ncp: fluxbox, fluxconf, fbdesk, and fbpager
[04:15] <ompaul> cdc try synaptic ;; system - administration - synaptic package manager
[04:15] <ompaul> !tell cdc about repos
[04:15] <ncp> try apt-get update, an then reinstall fluxbox
[04:15] <Bockbilbo> thanks for all, gonna restart to see if the modifications ive made work
[04:16] <Bockbilbo> bye
[04:16] <Daemonic> ncp: I just updated a few minute ago
[04:16] <oliwer> bob2 > thanks :) I found tomboy on sourceforge but there are no files. do you know where i can find the sources ?
[04:16] <CookedGryphon> Does anyvody know when Openoffice 2 is coming out of beta/
[04:16] <Daemonic> ncp: fluxbox is already the newest version.
[04:16] <ncp> Daemonic: do you get any error's?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Daemonic: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-43428.html
[04:16] <voxvirus> i just got a wierd idea
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Daemonic: I give instructions in that thread too
[04:17] <Daemonic> thoreauputic: thanks
[04:17] <HappyFool> oliwer: most (all?) sf.net projects have a viewcvs interface to their repository; it shouldn't be hard to find.
[04:17] <bob2> oliwer: er, in ubuntu?
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Daemonic: it's from the mailing list archive
[04:17] <bob2> CookedGryphon: they don't have a roadmap on their website?
[04:17] <voxvirus> what would happen if i configured my gamepad as a secondary usb keyboard in x???
[04:17] <oliwer> ooops
[04:17] <xerox> bob2: any idea where I could search for it?
[04:18] <CookedGryphon> bob2, i can't find it, maybe i'm jsut being daft tho...
[04:18] <cdc> i dont have synaptic
[04:18] <thoreauputic> ncp: it's a font server issue - fixed with --disable-xmb in ./configure (fluxbox issue)
[04:18] <ompaul> cdc, what operating system are you running?
[04:18] <cdc> sorry ompaul
[04:19] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, well... it's true: i have an AMD64 and the w32codecs doesn't work, only if I create a chroot 32bit
[04:19] <bob2> yes, of course
[04:19] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: aaaaaaaaargh - why didn't you mention amd 64?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: w32codecs - a bit of a giveaway isn't it?
[04:20] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, well... i will use a VM with Windows
[04:20] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic, I hate windows!!!
[04:21] <funkyHat> hehehe
[04:22] <funkyHat> isn't there any way around using the windows codecs on 64 bit linux?
[04:22] <wijnand> funkyHat: codecs for what?
[04:22] <ompaul> funky, there is chroot, or recode it all yourself
[04:23] <bob2> balmain bug
[04:23] <HappyFool> funkyHat: sure, we could e-mail bill and ask him to send us the source so it can be recompiled
[04:23] <funkyHat> well, i meant the codecs from the w32codecs package
[04:23] <funkyHat> i don't have any x86-64 machines anyway, i was just wondering :P
[04:23] <bob2> and all the other companies who have binaries in w32coedcs
[04:24] <CookedGryphon> i don't have w32codecs installed.. yet somehow i'm playing wma files.. odd
[04:24] <funkyHat> well, maybe asking for 64 bit binaries is more likely to get a nice reply ;)
[04:24] <LethAL-Rocks> Wma... ergh
[04:24] <funkyHat> what player are you using CookedGryphon?
[04:24] <funkyHat> because xmms/bmp uses it's own wma codec
[04:25] <HappyFool> funkyHat: i admire your rosy view of human nature
[04:25] <CookedGryphon> beep-media player
[04:25] <CookedGryphon> yeah
[04:25] <funkyHat> HappyFool, hey, i said more likely, not possible
[04:25] <corza> how do i execute programs these days?
[04:25] <LethAL-Rocks> You don't
[04:25] <bob2> corza: same as always...
[04:25] <HappyFool> these days we prefer lethal injection. guillotines are now outlawed as cruel.
[04:25] <CookedGryphon> LethAL-Rocks, don't worryu i'll convert all my wmas to ogg as soon as i get round to it
[04:25] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[04:25] <BlueEagle> Anyone know how to get Gaim to use another dictionary?
[04:26] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, why bother? it won't make them sound better, in fact they will sound worse
[04:26] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[04:26] <corza> bob2: most probably yeah lol but i have just come back to ubuntu as you may have noticed.. where is the run: script thing where i just type in what i want to run
[04:26] <corza> bob2: (other than terminal)
[04:26] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, tru, i'll leave em
[04:26] <HappyFool> Applications -> Run Application
[04:26] <bob2> I don't know what "run: script thing" is
[04:26] <funkyHat> wma is an awful codec though :(
[04:27] <CookedGryphon> i'm in a bit of bind atm, cos mp3s sound worse than wmas, and my mp3 player dunt play oggs...
[04:27] <corza> HappyFool: yeah where is Applications?
[04:27] <BlueEagle> corza: Defaults to ALT+F2 in gnome.
[04:27] <bob2> "doesn't"
[04:27] <corza> there it is thank you :D
[04:27] <funkyHat> i find mp3s to be much better than wma
[04:27] <funkyHat> at 128kbps and above at least. i don't have any tracks below that
[04:27] <CookedGryphon> ru sure u don't have ure rose-tinted, penguin shaped glasses on for that tho?
[04:28] <funkyHat> i don't own penguin shaped glasses ;)
[04:28] <corza> you don't?
[04:28] <LethAL-Rocks> They might give bragging rights P
[04:29] <LethAL-Rocks> :P*
[04:29] <funkyHat> no, seriously. wma messes up badly especially with high frequencies
[04:29] <CookedGryphon> y not?
[04:29] <Brunellus> I'm getting wierd thumbbutton behavior on my Logitech MX510.  I used the thumb buttons howto on the forums
[04:29] <bob2> come on people, this is an English channel, not a l33t abbrvaton chnl.
[04:29] <Brunellus> 1) the thumb buttons for forward and back only work in Firefox, but not in epiphany
[04:29] <joe_alf> need help on my dsl broadband connection on Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog". here is the detail ------> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2083
[04:29] <NiLz> what fonts do I need to install to get proper cyrillic support in ubuntu?
[04:30] <funkyHat> have you not ever noticed crackling when you listen to a wma with lots of cymbals or something in it?
[04:30] <cdc> corza
[04:30] <NiLz> + I want the font "Fixed"
[04:30] <corza> can you alien tgz files?
[04:30] <NiLz> what packages do I need?
[04:30] <funkyHat> it would probably be ok with wma vbr
[04:30] <cdc> msg me plz
[04:30] <bob2> NiLz: you have the font "fixed"
[04:30] <Brunellus> 2) in firefox, the extra scroll ('cruisecontrol') buttons scroll down, but UP means "back"
[04:30] <bob2> cdc: please stop being so annoying
[04:30] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, no, but i've had mp3s that hurt my ears in louder bits
[04:31] <cdc> i just forgot it
[04:31] <funkyHat> well you had a bad encoder then :P
[04:31] <funkyHat> :D
[04:31] <pcharky> hey all.
[04:31] <LethAL-Rocks> joe_alf: Do you have a speedtouch modem?
[04:31] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, that wasn't one i encoded
[04:31] <corza> how do i install tgz files.. can i alien them i've forgotten :(
[04:32] <bob2> corza: depends entirely what is in them
[04:32] <NiLz> bob2: do I? how come it's not listed in the settings of gnome-terminal?
[04:32] <LethAL-Rocks> corza: They're archives ;)
[04:32] <LinuxJones> pcharky, welcome
[04:32] <pcharky> corza: read the tgz section in: man alien
[04:32] <CookedGryphon> corza, tar -zxf *.tgz
[04:33] <CookedGryphon> then if tis source there'll b a readme or something
[04:33] <bob2> NiLz: because gnome-terminal doesn't know or care.  edit /etc/fonts/local.conf if you think it should
[04:33] <joe_alf> LethAL-Rocks: my ISP gave me NetDSL 800 modem
[04:33] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, but if it's not the source? :P
[04:33] <bob2> corza: it's easier if you just tell us what you're trying to install
[04:33] <CookedGryphon> i agree, do tell
[04:34] <CookedGryphon> but u can extract it with tar -zxf *.tgz  i only jsut got that, lol never understood the difference between tgz, .tar.gz, .bz2 etc.
[04:34] <voxvirus> bye all
[04:34] <voxvirus> thanks any way
[04:34] <CookedGryphon> do now tho thanks to a helpful website
[04:35] <NiLz> bob2: I already have the autohinter module enabled
[04:35] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, i don't think there is a difference at all between tgz and tar.gz
[04:36] <bob2> NiLz: where did I say anyting about that?
[04:36] <LethAL-Rocks> joe_alf: I have no idea, try ndiswrapper
[04:36] <joe_alf> LethAL-Rocks: any ideas how to fix it. On fedora and windows xp dont have problem connecting on internet.
[04:36] <bob2> NiLz: you configure font paths there
[04:36] <funkyHat> but bz2 is a different compression
[04:36] <LethAL-Rocks> joe_alf: That's very odd
[04:36] <thenuke> CookedGryphon: .tgz = .tar.gz = tarred and then gzipped package
[04:36] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, there isn't, i kno that now
[04:36] <thenuke> CookedGryphon: .bz2 on bzip2 -package
[04:36] <CookedGryphon> lol i've jsut said, i didn't get it, but i do now
[04:36] <funkyHat> lol
[04:37] <funkyelf> Hi guys...I have a question about ubuntu.  If I were to install it, would I for all intensive purposes just be running a pretty version of Debian and would I be able to follow ANY Debian how-to without ANY problems?
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> thanks for telling me neway tho
[04:37] <funkyHat> we just felt like lighting your screen up a little CookedGryphon
[04:37] <bob2> funkyelf: no, of course not
[04:37] <bytefoo> how do i change which application opens up a certain filetype
[04:37] <funkyHat> ;)
[04:37] <bytefoo> or where do i change that i suppose
[04:37] <bytefoo> for isntance,  vlc instead of totem
[04:37] <funkyelf> bob2, why not...what is different?
[04:37] <thenuke> CookedGryphon: different ways of packaging and compressing things, nothing more than that ;)
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, ah well, tru, allthis red on my screen makes me feel popular
[04:37] <bob2> funkyelf: lots of things
[04:37] <NiLz> bob2: should I search for the paths myself? :)
[04:37] <bob2> funkyelf: fortunately, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <bob2> NiLz: yes
[04:38] <NiLz> bob2: is there a sample of a font config file somewhere
[04:38] <NiLz> bob2: working one
[04:38] <CookedGryphon> bytefoo, right click and properties on a file of that type
[04:38] <bob2> NiLz: yes, yo ualready have it
[04:38] <CookedGryphon> then there's a tab for setting the prefered apps and also the open with ones
[04:39] <bob2> NiLz: your question isn't "How do I make X know about any fonts at all?", your question is "How do I make fontconfig apps know about random bitmap fonts?"
[04:39] <bob2> NiLz: read the file, the section you need is commented out
[04:39] <NiLz> bob2: ok, thanks
[04:39] <bytefoo> thanks
[04:39] <bytefoo> had to make a custom command
[04:40] <bytefoo> :/
[04:40] <funkyelf> If I install something via the graphical installer and realize there is a newer version out there and install it manually...will that mess things up?
[04:40] <joe_alf> LethAL-Rocks: i tried before to rename /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script then edit the /etc/resolv.conf and add the ip-address from /etc/ppp/resolv.conf i manage to connect to internet for while but when i rebooted and have the same problem.
[04:40] <bob2> funkyelf: yes, don't do that unless you really know what it means
[04:40] <LinuxJones> bytefoo, you can create an alias
[04:41] <LethAL-Rocks> joe_alf: I dunno much about Linux and PPP, I just had to run 2 scripts :D
[04:41] <funkyelf> bob2, unless I really what what means?
[04:41] <LethAL-Rocks> joe_alf: After 6 months of searching, however
[04:41] <NiLz> bob2: thanks for your help
[04:41] <bob2> funkyelf: unless you really know what installing newer software will do
[04:41] <CookedGryphon> bob2, if its a deb n u use dpkg it should b okay tho shouldn't it? cos it registers in the package manager so u can remove it if it goes awry
[04:41] <bob2> no
[04:42] <bob2> if it installs, it will probably be ok
[04:42] <NiLz> btw does any1 ever experience troubles with restarting X server, it doesn't go back to the graphical mode instead the terminal appears, so I need to log in and "startx"
[04:42] <CookedGryphon> ah well, i do that sometimes, like the newer gaim, its my computer, i can mess it up just how i like
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[04:42] <LinuxJones> NiLz, even after a re-boot ?
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> Mess it up?
[04:42] <LethAL-Rocks> How's that possible :P
[04:43] <CookedGryphon> NiLz, that happened to me once, when i was already logged in on tty1
[04:44] <joe_alf> some help please on my dsl broadband connection problem using pppoe. for details ---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2083
[04:45] <funkyelf> is there a way I can look at the packages available online before I install Ubuntu?
[04:45] <Lie-Algebra> Hi, is there a specific procedure to upgrade gnome (v 2.1 ->v 2.4) ?
[04:45] <thrice`> funkyelf, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <pcharky> joe_alf: the interface seems up, how about your routing? can you post the output of: ip route
[04:45] <thrice`> Lie-Algebra, neither of those are gnome version
[04:45] <thrice`> s
[04:46] <Lie-Algebra> ?
[04:46] <bob2> joe_alf: just fix /etc/resolv.conf manually
[04:46] <NiLz> LinuxJones: after reboot everything is normal
[04:46] <joe_alf> pcharky: where do i find dat
[04:46] <pcharky> joe_alf: type in the terminal.
[04:46] <NoHope> hello all
[04:46] <NiLz> LinuxJones: I just think that rebooting a comp running linux without needing to boot a new kernel is a crazy idea :)
[04:46] <joe_alf> bob2: tried that but everytime it return to the original value
[04:47] <bob2> yes, indeed
[04:47] <candlelight> i'm amazed at your multi-tasking skill!
[04:47] <LinuxJones> NiLz, it's probably like CookedGryphon said you were likely on another terninal (other than 7)
[04:47] <Bac9> gdm does not show any users above gid1000 in the user browser, how can I fix this? (kdm has no problem showing all users)
[04:47] <funkyHat> is bootsplash going to be included in ubuntu at all?
[04:47] <BlueEagle> nilz: Well, unless you're testing that it will come up right in case of a power failure.
[04:47] <bob2> joe_alf: ddi you rerun pppoeconf and check you really told it to get the dns server?
[04:47] <NiLz> LinuxJones: no, I was on 7th
[04:47] <bob2> funkyHat: no, it's shit
[04:47] <funkyHat> lol
[04:47] <bob2> funkyHat: usplash is sadly in brrzy
[04:47] <Lie-Algebra> well thrice` , I am just reading what is written in the box "about gnome" ....
[04:47] <LinuxJones> NiLz, normaly you don't do that unless there is a security fix for the kernel
[04:47] <funkyHat> is usplash a similar sort of thing?
[04:47] <pcharky> joe_alf: you should edit your /etc/network/interfaces to have resolvconf use the correct nameserver.
[04:47] <thrice`> Lie-Algebra, gnome 2.12 was just released; i'm sure you're on gnome 2.10 at the moment
[04:47] <corza> does anyone know which kind of repository i need to get glibc packages?
[04:48] <joe_alf> bob2: yes
[04:48] <bob2> Juhaz: yes
[04:48] <LinuxJones> NiLz, did you upgrade to breezy ?
[04:48] <Lie-Algebra> ah sorry u are right, its gnome 2.10*
[04:48] <bob2> corza: NO
[04:48] <bob2> corza: stop right there
[04:48] <bob2> you're about to fuck your system up serverly
[04:48] <NiLz> LinuxJones: breezy? :)
[04:48] <corza> okay..
[04:48] <NiLz> LinuxJones: I installed from 5.04 hoary cd
[04:48] <LinuxJones> NiLz, yes the next version of Ubuntu to be released on Oct. 13th
[04:48] <twibbler> does anybody now where to get documentation on gnome pilot please .... need to transfer files from pc to pda ..
[04:49] <NiLz> LinuxJones: probably in testing phase atm?
[04:49] <joe_alf> pcharky: what's the correct nameserver for my configuration
[04:49] <bob2> corza: why on earth do you thin kyou need to touch libc?
[04:49] <corza> bob2: well on point2play sys req. it says i need to have glibc 2.2 or higher
[04:49] <LinuxJones> NiLz, yeah I upgraded to it the other day, it's freaking awesome :)
[04:49] <pcharky> joe_alf: you isp provides you with one.
[04:49] <LinuxJones> NiLz, but has a few rough edges to be worked out
[04:49] <thoreauputic> ompaul: skype?
[04:49] <Lie-Algebra> so to upgrade to gnome 2.12 , I guess there only one way to do this even its may not be recommanded at the moment, dont really know :/
[04:50] <bob2> corza: and you have that, as does every other linux distribution since 2001
[04:50] <corza> bob2: then its no problem thanks :D
[04:50] <bob2> I really think you can afford to wait a couple of weeks to use gnome 2.12
[04:50] <joe_alf> pcharky: have dynamic ip, so everytime it changes
[04:50] <Lie-Algebra> yes i do ;p
[04:50] <thrice`> bob2, why not upgrade to preivew ?
[04:51] <pcharky> joe_alf: hte ppp connection is the internet connection right?
[04:51] <fblade> dose anyone know of a garden design program for linux?
[04:51] <joe_alf> pcharky: what do you mean bye hte
[04:51] <ompaul> thoreauputic, y
[04:51] <pcharky> joe_alf: the
[04:52] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nm
[04:52] <joe_alf> pcharky: yes
[04:52] <LinuxJones> thrice`, there are a few hurdles that (new users to Linux) might not be able to overcome during the upgrade.
[04:52] <pcharky> joe_alf: did you paste the output of: ip route
[04:53] <pcharky> joe_alf: on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:54] <joe_alf> pcharky: i'm currently using win xp, have to logout and boot ubuntu to get that, is there any other way to look for that, i can access the linux partition from winxp. anylog from there i can show you.
[04:55] <pcharky> joe_alf: I'm afraid there's no other way. it's set at runtime. it should contain something like: default via 218.102.84.202 dev ppp0
[04:56] <JDigital> Halp me guys. Playing video files in mplayer normally works fine but for some reason it's started showing me only a blue screen now. I get audio but only a blue screen.
[04:56] <JDigital> I can't find anything about it on the forums
[04:56] <fblade> how can i set up bluetooh on ubuntu
[04:56] <funkyHat> will hibernate be properly fixed in breezy?
[04:56] <bob2> JDigital: restart X
[04:56] <bob2> your videocard is shit
[04:56] <funkyHat> at the moment my machine will go down, but won't come back up again
[04:56] <JDigital> :/
[04:56] <bob2> funkyHat: which bug # is your report?
[04:57] <joe_alf> pcharky: okey i'll get back to you after i boot to my ubuntu.
[04:57] <pcharky> Has anybody got an Audigy2 with line-in working?
[04:57] <joe_alf> pcharky: brb
[04:57] <pcharky> joe_alf: good luck!
[04:57] <cdc> guys how cn i have my reso to 1024x768 coz im stuck at 640 by 480
[04:57] <CookedGryphon> cdc, have u tried system > preferences> screen resolution/
[04:57] <bob2> cdc: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <cdc> thanks
[04:58] <funkyHat> bob2, same as 14807
[04:59] <funkyHat> so i didn't post it again
[04:59] <bob2> good
[05:01] <cdc> > is this mean enter?
[05:01] <CookedGryphon> fblade r u still wantign garden design software?
[05:01] <CookedGryphon> cdc, no, it means on the menu
[05:02] <LethAL-Rocks> Ok... I just enabled Transparency (The Composite thing) and now drawing is REALLY slow. Any ideas?
[05:02] <CookedGryphon> select system, then preferences, then screen resolution
[05:03] <funkyHat> LethAL-Rocks, you need to set up acceleration for it, like i told you yesterday, see the gentoo wiki
[05:03] <LethAL-Rocks> Noooooo :P
[05:04] <NiLz> it's not exactly the ubuntu question, but how can I decrease the font size in firefox on startup (i know that ctrl - will do the trick, but how do I make it smaller everytime I start firefox)?
[05:04] <cdc> do ihave to proced if i encounter error lines?
[05:05] <CookedGryphon> cdc what r u doing?
[05:05] <cdc> fixing my resoultion
[05:06] <serum> what do i need to to do get archive manager to open rar files?
[05:06] <CookedGryphon> cdc, what error messages r u getting?
[05:07] <LethAL-Rocks> Argh, random X server crashes
[05:07] <serum> what do i need to to do get archive manager to open rar files?
[05:07] <LinuxJones> serum, install unrar
[05:07] <serum> thx
[05:07] <joe_alf> pcharky: here it is ---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2084
[05:08] <serum> im still getting unrar: invalid option -- c
[05:08] <LethAL-Rocks> funkyHat: "Xorg X11 and Transparency"?
[05:08] <serum> its a *.001 file
[05:08] <funkyHat> yeah probably
[05:09] <kuitang> how long do the cds take to arrive
[05:09] <cdc> still the same resolution
[05:09] <kuitang> i ordered some over a month ago but they still haven't come
[05:09] <joe_alf> pcharky: did you get the link
[05:09] <Quinthius> serum, use unrar-nonfree, not the free one
[05:10] <CookedGryphon> cdc, are u running X? or are u trying to type these things in?
[05:10] <cdc> wati cooked
[05:10] <LethAL-Rocks> funkyHat: What's our version of emerge?
[05:10] <funkyHat> apt-get
[05:10] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh, lol
[05:10] <cdc> at the terminal under root
[05:10] <pcharky> joe_alf: yeah, looks okay. Can you ping a single ip? If you can't the problem is in dns-lookups.
[05:11] <cdc> cooked,at the terminal under root
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> cdc, lol well i'm not givign command line instructions
[05:11] <serum> Quinthius, where can i find unrar-nonfree?
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> i'm saying under the gui u can jsut go to preferences under the system menu and it sorts it for u
[05:12] <joe_alf> pcharky: can't ping anysite, return unknown host
[05:12] <joe_alf> pcharky: how do i fix that
[05:12] <Quinthius> serum: it's in synaptic, lemme check which repos
[05:13] <pcharky> joe_alf: The question is wether you can ping an ip-address. for instance 66.249.93.104 (www.google.nl). If you can, there's a problem with DNS lookups, if not it's the connection itself.
[05:13] <Quinthius> serum: multiverse it looks like...
[05:13] <CookedGryphon> cdc if u want to do it from the terminal u'll have to edit Xorg.conf
[05:13] <serum> Quink_, i have all thoose enabled
[05:13] <serum> still i only see "unrar"
[05:14] <serum> Can't handle archives in the
[05:14] <serum> RAR 3.0 format.
[05:14] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, no he won't
[05:14] <funkyHat> he can reconfigure the package
[05:14] <Quinthius> serum: that's not the right one, sec
[05:14] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, cud u tell him then, lol cosi'm losing patience
[05:15] <glauc> hey I just installed ubuntu over a fc3 install, I had 2 ext3 data drives, but now when I try to mount them it says bad super block, how can I recover them?
[05:15] <Quinthius> serum: it may be backports: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[05:16] <Alex_BO> IN your opinion, the chroot to run 32bit applications can speed down the OS?
[05:16] <serum> Quinthius, i have the backport enables
[05:16] <serum> enabled*
[05:16] <Quinthius> serum: err that's hoary extras i mean, not backports
[05:16] <joe_alf> pcharky: i tried to ping www.google.com same result. before i tried to rename /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script to something else and edit the /etc/resolv.conf and added the ip-address from /etc/ppp/resolv.conf it work for a while but when i reboot the machine i have the same problem again.
[05:16] <serum> Quinthius, i have all the repos enabled
[05:16] <Quinthius> serum: then there should be unrar-nonfree.
[05:16] <Trackilizer> Just wanted to say Ubuntu is amazing, it's the only Linux distro that simply works for me.
[05:16] <see> i have 2 quick small questions: i want to install both winxp and ubuntu dualbooting, which order of installing is preferrable. 2) do one still need a swap partition for linux and if so is it still the rule 2*ram or maximum 512?
[05:17] <LethAL-Rocks> Install XP first
[05:17] <serum> Quink_, whats the URL to the extras repo?
[05:17] <funkyHat> cdc, in a terminal, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:17] <Quinthius> serum: i just gave it
[05:17] <LinuxJones> Trackilizer, agreed :)
[05:17] <LethAL-Rocks> XP's bootloader won't see linux
[05:17] <see> lethal ok
[05:17] <pcharky> joe_alf: what i'm trying to say is that you shouldn't ping www.google.com but, 66.249.93.104
[05:17] <see> and swap?
[05:17] <serum> oh
[05:17] <LethAL-Rocks> swap, yes
[05:17] <serum> thats the crack repo
[05:17] <reiki> anyone got time to help me troubleshoot a usb flash drive issue? I have the drive. When I insert it, it gets seen as /dev/sda1 and eventually gts mounted into /media as /media/usbdisk which I think is normal. However it can't be read in the gui BUT I can use ls and get a directory listing in terminal. BUT...there's one file on there named ????????.??? and I think it's messing things up. I'd like to format it.
[05:17] <reiki> sorry that was so long winded :)
[05:18] <Quinthius> serum: crack repo?
[05:18] <serum> yea the none official one
[05:18] <see> lethal is bootloaders still required in the beginning of the drive so i need a bootpartition?
[05:18] <joe_alf> pcharky: i'll try that get back to you again. brb
[05:18] <LethAL-Rocks> No no, Install grub to the MBR
[05:18] <Quinthius> serum: it's for proprietary programs, non-opensource things, "questionable" formats, etc. which unrar-nonfree falls under
[05:18] <cdc> !tell funkyHat what should i chose?
[05:18] <cdc> sorry
[05:18] <see> lethal ok thnx
[05:18] <h0sl3r> How do I upgrade to breezy?
[05:19] <serum> ok i will try it but only for this app
[05:19] <funkyHat> cdc, and go through the screens carefully, when it gets to the one about modules to load, if you've got accelerated nvidia or ati drivers make sure you select them (nvidia one is called nvidia) when it gets to the resolutions one, you just choose the ones you know your hardware is capable of
[05:19] <Quinthius> serum: you'll likely need it for other things too
[05:19] <CookedGryphon> sum1 should configure ubotu to tell ppl about installing breezy...
[05:19] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, you edit /etc/apt/sources.lst and change every reference to hoary to breezy, then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:19] <see> just great that everything works pnp on a crusoe fujitsu 2120 :) read pages on the net and people needed loads of tweaking to get it work before with debian :)
[05:20] <funkyHat> cdc, if you get stuck, pm me with the question it's asking
[05:20] <serum> Quinthius, I dont trust that mirror
[05:20] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: so I just change the name and thats all?
[05:20] <Quinthius> serum: it's the one given on the official wiki
[05:20] <LethAL-Rocks> funkyHat: :D
[05:20] <serum> well not really there is an official one too
[05:20] <serum> but it doesnt have all the apps the other one has
[05:21] <funkyHat> !lart LethAL-Rocks
[05:21] <LethAL-Rocks> :(
[05:21] <funkyHat> :D
[05:21] <CookedGryphon> why?
[05:21] <Quinthius> serum: if you want unrar-nonfree add it and quit griping :P
[05:21] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, yes
[05:21] <serum> thats what im doing lol
[05:21] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: is there an example file on the internet somewhere?
[05:21] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, I can post my apt-sources.lst file to pastebin 1 sec
[05:22] <Quinthius> serum: you may need to uninstall normal unrar (unrar-free?) first, not sure
[05:22] <h0sl3r> ok thanks
[05:22] <serum> already did
[05:22] <serum> well
[05:22] <serum> it cant find unrar-nonfree
[05:22] <serum> wtf
[05:22] <SpareXX> how do i install VLC for ubuntu?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> i think the wikis got a howto on it.
[05:23] <funkyHat> !vlc
[05:23] <ubotu> vlc is, like, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:23] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, >> http://pastebin.ca/22646
[05:23] <funkyHat> it's in the repositories SpareXX
[05:23] <funkyHat> install it using synaptic
[05:23] <SpareXX> ok :D
[05:23] <reiki> does Ubuntu use usb-storage for the flash drive thing and how do I tell if that module is loaded?
[05:23] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: those are the only 3 I need?
[05:24] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, yep I upgraded to breezy 2 days ago
[05:24] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, before you upgrade, be aware there are a few problems you'll likely encounter :)
[05:24] <pkern> Did anyone try an update to breezy with xfs as the root filesystem on ppc? I get a kernel panic, unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0); bootloader is yaboot
[05:25] <SpareXX> i don't see it in the synaptec
[05:25] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: like what?
[05:25] <IcE-bOy> are there any count or some similar for know about how many people are using ubuntu ?
[05:25] <funkyHat> SpareXX, do you have universe and multiverse repositories added?
[05:25] <SpareXX> funkyHat,  where is the repositories
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> reiki,  yes it does.. and it should auto-load.. try.. errr.. lsmod i think to see qwhat moduiles are loaded
[05:25] <SpareXX> funkyHat,  i don't know
[05:26] <funkyHat> SpareXX, the repositories are the servers that synaptic uses to get it's packages from
[05:26] <funkyHat> SpareXX,
[05:26] <funkyHat> !repositories
[05:26] <ubotu> I heard repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:26] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, there were a things like my keyboard settings preventing xorg from starting.
[05:26] <CookedGryphon> how do i set ogle to go fullscreen? and how do i set my cd drive to put dma on by default ( even tho ogle runs dvds smoother than totem anyway so its not so much of a problem any more) and y isn't ogle giving sound?
[05:26] <funkyHat> SpareXX, see what ubotu said, follow that howto ^
[05:26] <pkern> LinuxJones: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixes that.
[05:26] <Trackilizer> Is there anyway i can increase the size of xmms?
[05:26] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: well ill come back figure out how to fix it if i get those problems.
[05:27] <LinuxJones> pkern, yeah
[05:27] <funkyHat> Trackilizer, one of the buttons on the left doubles the size
[05:27] <SpareXX> funkyHat,  thanks :)
[05:27] <pkern> h0sl3r: Do you use the nvidia proprietary driver?
[05:27] <h0sl3r> no
[05:27] <LinuxJones> pkern, but someone new to lZinux might not know how to do that
[05:27] <pkern> h0sl3r: Ok.
[05:27] <pkern> LinuxJones: They shouldn't try to upgrade to breezy at that point. ;)
[05:27] <Trackilizer> I can't seem to find any buttons on the left.
[05:28] <LinuxJones> pkern, yes but we all do things we shouldn't :D
[05:28] <reiki> Dr_Willis: ok my system sees this flash drive in /media/usbdisk.  If I want to format it, can I use the mount point as the target or do I have to format /dev/sda1 which is the actual device?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> you dont format a Mounted device..
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> you need to unmount it. and you would format the /dev/whatever
[05:28] <reiki> Dr_Willis: ok... I'm gonna give this a shot
[05:29] <Trackilizer> I found out how to change the skin but i can't seem to be able to increase the size.
[05:29] <hydrogen> Is there any easy way to mount a reiser4 file system? I have some stuff on their id like to get out
[05:29] <pkern> Hm I better reboot and try a run of mkofboot ):
[05:30] <x-pert> hello guys
[05:30] <x-pert> i have a linksys wrk54g
[05:30] <Trackilizer> So does anyone know how to increase the size of XMMS?
[05:30] <x-pert> and a receptor
[05:31] <joe_alf> pcharky, yes i can ping the ip-address
[05:31] <x-pert> i am connected to net by this computer wich is connected to the router by cable
[05:31] <x-pert> i have an other pc which is connected via wireless
[05:31] <ompaul> Trackilizer, the letter D on it
[05:31] <serum> Quinthius, I added that backport and still non unrar-nonfree
[05:31] <x-pert> and i really cant put it working!
[05:31] <Hoxzer> :D
[05:31] <Hoxzer> dont say chroot has something to do with the home folder?
[05:32] <BlueEagle> Anyone know if it's possible to use mouse-gestures with Nautilus?
[05:32] <Trackilizer> ompaul, thank's for that.
[05:32] <Hoxzer> what folder chroot contains?
[05:32] <x-pert> what shall i do????
[05:32] <h0sl3r> pkpkern: what did you say I had to do to fix this upcomming keyboard problem?
[05:32] <ompaul> Trackilizer, np
[05:32] <Trackilizer> Crap! now it's way too big.
[05:32] <Trackilizer> :P
[05:32] <Hoxzer> exit
[05:32] <Hoxzer> no way in hell :E
[05:33] <Hoxzer> if I just deleted something verry important
[05:33] <Hoxzer> ...
[05:33] <joe_alf> pcharky, now i'm on ubuntu by renaming /etc/dhcp3/dhclien-script to something else and edit the /etc/resolv.conf
[05:33] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone tell me what to run to get KDE's ControlCentre? My session messed up and it auto-loads it >.<
[05:33] <pcharky> joe_alf: okay, so you are connected. I'm sure it's a DNS problem I don't have any experience with ppp and DNS, I'll go and google something up..
[05:33] <BockBilbo> hello again, is there any way to add the old "open terminal" option to the right mouse bottom menu in the Desktop of breezy??
[05:33] <ompaul> Trackilizer, you ask, you find out, you now have choice :)
[05:33] <h0sl3r> pkern: what did you say I had to do to fix this upcomming keyboard problem?
[05:33] <whyameye> I have the exta repositories set up, but I am not finding the NVU package. Is something wrong with the respositories, or with my machine setup?
[05:33] <Hoxzer> I really need to know what stuff is in the chroot
[05:33] <x-pert> people can anyone help me setting up a wireless entwork?
[05:33] <Hoxzer> exit
[05:33] <x-pert> i am having some problems :|
[05:33] <h0sl3r> x-pert: like hwat?
[05:33] <LethAL-Rocks> x-pert: Wireless network = Problem
[05:34] <BockBilbo> LethAL-Rocks, not that much
[05:34] <x-pert> lol
[05:34] <x-pert> but i really need to have one
[05:34] <x-pert> hehe
[05:34] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[05:34] <BockBilbo> its quite easy
[05:34] <x-pert> hostler
[05:34] <x-pert> i have donne everything i had to do
[05:35] <x-pert> and i still couldnt connect to internet
[05:35] <whyameye> How can I find out which repository NVU is in? Can't I then access the repository directly thru the web?
[05:35] <x-pert> so i went to network use and i put itlike it was
[05:35] <h0sl3r> x-pert: does your machine have an ip address?
[05:35] <x-pert> and i went to comman line and put ifdown wlan0
[05:35] <x-pert> now i think everything is like it was
[05:35] <x-pert> and i want do start again
[05:35] <x-pert> i undonne the router configuration too
[05:35] <x-pert> hostler no
[05:36] <whyameye> x-pert, to start again would be ifup wlan0
[05:36] <x-pert> but loook
[05:36] <x-pert> i have done iwconfig wlan0 key mykey...................
[05:36] <caonex> Hello, I have installed the package cups-pdf, and have created two supposedly pseudo printers. I was force to pick one of the drivers from cups, but they did not seem as the one that I would need to install because the pseudo printers are paused. Any ideas?
[05:36] <CookedGryphon> how do i set my dvd drive's dma on by default? i've tried hdparm.conf and it makes no difference
[05:36] <x-pert> by doing ifdown that has any effect ?
[05:36] <h0sl3r> x-pert: is your key letters or numbers?
[05:37] <x-pert> boht
[05:37] <x-pert> can it be cause of that?
[05:37] <rcdarkangel> hi all
[05:37] <x-pert> h0stl3r ...
[05:37] <x-pert> both letters and numbers
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> hi rcdarkangel
[05:37] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know how I can remove a KDE saved session from Gnome?
[05:37] <h0sl3r> x-pert: do this sudo iwconfig wlan0 key s:<keyhere>
[05:37] <x-pert> look
[05:37] <BockBilbo> iwconfig wlan0 key s:YOUR KEY
[05:37] <imterro> hi guys
[05:38] <x-pert> ok
[05:38] <imterro> im having trouble setting up my wireless lan
[05:38] <x-pert> but first i will reconfigure the network
[05:38] <imterro> im tryying to connect to a router
[05:38] <x-pert> in http://192.168.1.1
[05:38] <LethAL-Rocks> imterro: Everyone does
[05:38] <x-pert> ok?
[05:38] <Quinthius> serum: well it's either in that one or the official multiverse (deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse)
[05:38] <h0sl3r> x-pert: sudo network-admin
[05:38] <imterro> well where do i start trying to get this to work
[05:38] <serum> Quink_, nope
[05:38] <serum> i have them all
[05:38] <rcdarkangel> i finnaly got my site working properly had to configure the chmod in the terminal being a n00b i did not know this. i still suck at web design but it works. www.rcdarkangel.com
[05:38] <LethAL-Rocks> Telling us your adapter's model number
[05:38] <joe_alf> is there another way i can fix my dsl broadband connection using pppoe without renaming /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script and manually editing my /etc/resolv.conf
[05:38] <imterro> firstly, its seen as eth1
[05:38] <BockBilbo> h0sl3r, the network admin actually sucks
[05:38] <imterro> instead of wlan0
[05:39] <h0sl3r> BockBilbo: yeah
[05:39] <BockBilbo> doesnt encode correctly the wep passwords
[05:39] <thedevilsjester> Ok, not a ubuntu specific question, but does anyone know if I can export functions in an executable, not just a shared libarary?
[05:39] <LethAL-Rocks> imterro: The actual USB adapter or PCI thingy's model number
[05:39] <thedevilsjester> I dont want to put my functions in a shared lib but I still want the users to be able to access them from a plugin
[05:40] <whyameye> can somebody who has the extra respositories set up see if they find NVU listed as an app?
[05:40] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: What do I do to fix the keyboard problem after I upgrade?
[05:40] <LethAL-Rocks> whyameye: Sure
[05:40] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:40] <BockBilbo> i gotta go
[05:40] <h0sl3r> ok
[05:40] <whyameye> LethAL-Rocks, that would be great. I'm not finding it. I don't know whether it's a repository problem, or a config problem w/ my machine.
[05:40] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, you may not even have to do it but I did
[05:40] <BockBilbo> so no one here knows how to add the old "open terminal" option to the right mouse bottom menu in the Desktop of breezy, right?
[05:40] <h0sl3r> ok
[05:41] <sKaBoy> when someone has a bug in a gnome sw (for example totem), is it better to report it in the ubuntu or the gnome bugzilla ?
[05:41] <LethAL-Rocks> whyameye: No, it's not there
[05:41] <rcdarkangel> for those who know what i was actually doing the other day i have finnaly got my database set up in mysql but have not yet coded the comment system as it has been i while since i did any php
[05:41] <Quinthius> serum: can you PM me with your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:41] <Utopiate> so I want to install the nvidia drivers I just downlaoded and I installed the kernel-source-6.8.10 package and the nvidia installer is saying it can't find the source of the kernel in use. I uname -r and the kernel version is 2.6.10.
[05:41] <rcdarkangel> so thanks for everyone that helped
[05:41] <BockBilbo> ... fine.. bye!!!
[05:42] <Utopiate> *kernel-source-2.6.10
[05:43] <Utopiate> How di I use the apt-cache command?
[05:43] <xophEr> is there going to be a 2.6.13 ubuntu-kernel? And one other question, where can I get hold of an 'ubuntu' kernel configuration file?
[05:43] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: how long does this update take?
[05:43] <caonex> Utopiate, apt-cache search package
[05:44] <caonex> Utopiate, that is one of the main uses to check for available packages
[05:44] <Utopiate> That's what I though... But can I use fragmented package names?
[05:44] <Utopiate> like "kernel" to get all with kernel in the name?
[05:44] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, it was like a 450 MB download it too a while to install everything as well. Close to 1 1/2 hours for me
[05:44] <caonex> Utopiate, yeah, it is a filter and filters anything that has whatever you wront
[05:44] <caonex> wrote
[05:45] <creatingalan> ppl i am expert i went off
[05:45] <caonex> Utopiate, yeah that is exactly how it works
[05:45] <creatingalan> the net went off :P
[05:45] <creatingalan> look
[05:45] <creatingalan> what shall i do now?
[05:45] <Utopiate> Hrmmm... can't find any packages with kernel in the name... I checked all my apt sources and double checked them...
[05:45] <Utopiate> wtf?
[05:45] <whyameye> Is there something wrong with the Universe repo? NVU is supposed to be there and Synaptic is not finding it. Can't I download the binary directly from a website?
[05:45] <creatingalan> i am x-pert (nick ) not expert :P
[05:45] <caonex> Utopiate, i always can..
[05:45] <creatingalan> what shall i do now?
[05:45] <LinuxJones> Utopiate, search for linux-image
[05:45] <Utopiate> that's right... the package was Linux-source
[05:46] <Utopiate> not kernal-source
[05:46] <LinuxJones> :)
[05:46] <caonex> kernel
[05:46] <funkyHat> creatingalan, what are you doing, and what do you need to do next?
[05:46] <caonex> not kernal
[05:46] <caonex> Utopiate, ^
[05:46] <thedevilsjester> xophEr, /proc/config.gz
[05:46] <Utopiate> thank you LinuxJones... I had forgotten...
[05:46] <caonex> Utopiate, you misspelled kernel
[05:46] <reiki> can a usb flash drive that's been formatted using mkdosfs be read on a windows machine?
[05:46] <Utopiate> heh
[05:47] <funkyHat> reiki, yes, that's the whole point of using mkdosfs :P
[05:47] <creatingalan> can u help me?????
[05:47] <reiki> funkyHat, I thought so.... but ya just never know :)
[05:48] <Alex_BO> who can send me the link to the wiki page where i can find how make a chroot?
[05:48] <reiki> funkyHat, also seems to mount more reliably is I use mount -t vfat rather than mount -t msdos as I was being told last night
[05:48] <pcharky> joe_alf: if I understand correctly there's a script called 0dns-up in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d which copies /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to /etc/resolv.conf when the connection is established.
[05:48] <funkyHat> reiki, it should automount? S:
[05:48] <tchmnky> Is there a quick, painless, easy way to get a broken Breezy-Hoary hybrid back to a working stable Hoary? (Or Breezy, even)
[05:49] <creatingalan> anyone can help me?!?!?!?!?
[05:49] <reiki> funkyHat, I've not been having good luck with it automounting reliably
[05:49] <tchmnky> Oh, and by the way - X won't start.
[05:49] <imterro> urg this is gettin gold
[05:49] <imterro> *old
[05:49] <Quinthius> tchmnky: yeah, it's called a fresh install :P
[05:49] <pcharky> joe_alf: It utilized resolvconf if it's installed. You can try installing it: sudo apt-get install resolvonf
[05:49] <Alex_BO> HELLO.who can send me the link to the wiki page where i can find how make a chroot?
[05:49] <funkyHat> creatingalan, please ask your question, i don't know what you want help with
[05:49] <reiki> funkyHat, and there's no entry in my /etc/fstab for this
[05:49] <Hoxzer> so what is chroot folder?
[05:49] <reiki> gotta move car... brb
[05:49] <imterro> this wont even pick up my wireless card as a wireless car, its calling it eth1
[05:49] <imterro> :(
[05:49] <tchmnky> Quinthius, yeah, but my CD writer is b0rked and I don't want to lose settings/files...
[05:49] <imterro> can anyone help?
[05:49] <joe_alf> pcharky, yes there is
[05:50] <Quinthius> tchmnky: i highly doubt there's a way to "downgrade" back to hoary, and if there is, i don't think it will be very pretty
[05:50] <joe_alf> pcharky, okey i'll try that
[05:50] <Hoxzer> :D
[05:50] <creatingalan> oh ppl
[05:50] <Hoxzer> just tell me so I know do I need to write 3 pages again
[05:50] <creatingalan> i think i know the problem
[05:50] <creatingalan> in the resolv.conf
[05:50] <Hoxzer> and try to remeber 3 week old stuff
[05:50] <creatingalan> must i have like
[05:50] <Hoxzer> man this sucks
[05:50] <Hoxzer> ...
[05:50] <BlueEagle> Anyone got an idea as to why xmms doesn't hop to the next song automatically? Is there a feature to disable this and if so, how do I re-enable it?
[05:51] <fblade> help guys i cant seem to get sound in any games, but yet i have sound on the desktop whots wrong?
[05:51] <creatingalan> domain lan_name dns1 dns2 dns3?
[05:51] <Hoxzer> can I run some how some kind of data recavory?
[05:51] <creatingalan> i just have domain lan_name
[05:51] <tchmnky> Quinthius, ok. How about fixing a broken Breezy then? It keeps dying, saying there were errors processing libexif....deb and the upgrade doesn't continue.
[05:51] <creatingalan> so?
[05:51] <BlueEagle> fblade: Are you using ESD?
[05:51] <fblade> esd?
[05:51] <imterro> ?
[05:51] <BlueEagle> tchmnky: breezy is preview software. You need to expect such breakage. :)
[05:51] <Quinthius> tchmnky: well... breezy is naturally "broken" right now :P ... that's why it's beta... but i would check the forums and bug reports
[05:52] <tchmnky> Bah. The Hoary preview was never this b0rked! :P
[05:52] <BlueEagle> fblade: Yes, the sound engine that, amongst other things, enables annoying sounds when opening and closing windows.
[05:52] <tchmnky> Least.. not when I had it.
[05:52] <Quinthius> tchmnky: but keep in mind doing an upgrade from hoary may not be a clean transition, and so doing a "fresh" breezy install might yield less problems
[05:53] <Quinthius> tchmnky: at least while it's still in the testing phase
[05:53] <bytefoo> breezy = oct 1?
[05:53] <fblade> BlueEagle : yeah i think because i have those annoying sounds
[05:53] <bytefoo> or like mid oct
[05:53] <Quinthius> bytefoo: date i saw was mid oct
[05:53] <tchmnky> Is upgrading to Breezy it worth the new Gnome goodies?
[05:53] <bytefoo> kk
[05:53] <BlueEagle> fblade: Try disabling it and change to alsa soundsystem.
[05:53] <fblade> how?
[05:53] <tchmnky> Because if it's just hype I can stick with Hoary for now. :)
[05:53] <Quinthius> tchmnky: i like the gnome upgrades a lot so far. breezy still has problems of course, but it looks like it's coming along nicely
[05:53] <BlueEagle> fblade: System->Preferences->Sound disable esd on startup, killall esd, system->preferences->multimedia selector and choose alsa
[05:53] <funkyHat> tchmnky, it definitely will be, now? i'm not sure ;) if you're confident with fixing stuff... maybe ;)
[05:54] <reiki> HEY! BlueEagle! :)  still working on that goofy usb flash drive
[05:54] <BlueEagle> reiki: Oh, getting better or worse?
[05:54] <cdc> can anyone help me make my resolution a better one
[05:54] <cdc> coz i stuck at 800x600 and 640x480
[05:54] <BlueEagle> cdc: Not uless you tell us what's wrong with the one you have got now and what you would consider as being "better"
[05:54] <reiki> BlueEagle, actually getting better. I founf I could sudo mount it using -t vfat instead of -t msdos
[05:54] <Quinthius> tchmnky: it's nothing groundbreaking or "must-have right now"... but a lot of nice little tweaks and additions that make it more intuitive and more enjoyable
[05:54] <tchmnky> cdc, you can play about with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you understand it.
[05:54] <Hoxzer> aaaargh what is chroot folder just tell meee!
[05:54] <Hoxzer> now
[05:55] <EvilTaco> What software does Ubuntu use to extract ISO?
[05:55] <tchmnky> Quinthius,  Ah, I see. Well, I'm off to make HDD backups from this Live CD, and fresh install...
[05:55] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, if you format it as vfat then you can (or rather have to) mount it with vfat
[05:55] <fblade> BlueEagle : i havnt  got the option to disable esd, just start sound server
[05:55] <walde> I tired to wipe a discdevice with some hardwarerrors using "dd conv=noerrors", but it still interrupts when a writeerror appears. Any ideas how to deactivate this behaviour?
[05:55] <reiki> BlueEagle, I formatted it using mkdosfs
[05:55] <BockBilbo> ... bob2 cant manage to make usplash work... i did dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-{uname -r} and dpkg-reconfigue usplash...
[05:55] <joe_alf> pcharky,  it did not fix the problem
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fblade: Well, if you uncheck the "start sound server" you will in fact disable the sound server...
[05:56] <walde> EvilTaco, you can mount a iso using loop-device
[05:56] <CookedGryphon> cdc does ure setup definitely support higher resolution?
[05:56] <CookedGryphon> because mine defaulted to the highest possible
[05:56] <BlueEagle> cdc: What does xorg.conf say about your graphic card and monitor?
[05:56] <fblade> but i have change the multmedia settings
[05:56] <fblade> should i restart before trying it?
[05:56] <Utopiate> I'm getting a perl issue on apt-get installs... anyone want to see the error?
[05:56] <creatingalan> anyone can help me?!?
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fblade: Did it work when you pressed "test"?
[05:56] <EvilTaco> I'm wanting to extract the files from an ISO.
[05:57] <pcharky> joe_alf: can you check if the files are copied correctly (put a comment in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf)?
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fblade: You don't need to restart, just `kilall esd` in a terminal
[05:57] <walde> EvilTaco, so, just mount it and copy your files from it. Use -o loop
[05:57] <fblade> defualt sink worked but no defualt source
[05:57] <CookedGryphon> EvilTaco, ...oh walde beat me to it
[05:58] <EvilTaco> Okay, thank you :)
[05:58] <Utopiate> Perl error on apt-get installs: Dealing with languages.
[05:58] <Utopiate> Anyone?
[05:58] <walde> CookedGryphon, sometimes I am happy not to understand what people are meaning with english words :-)
[05:59] <jack-> is it possible to "upgrade" to breezy from hoary, without doing a fresh install?
[05:59] <imterro> he, can anyone help me with the wlan?
[05:59] <reiki> BlueEagle, so now if I sudo echo /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive vfat noauto, user 0 0 >> /etc/fstab ..... do I have to restart in order for this to start working? Or is fstab reread on events like insrting a flash drive?
[05:59] <BockBilbo> :S
[05:59] <jack-> i mean, just replacing the repos?
[05:59] <whyameye> what is a good ftp gui application?
[05:59] <jack-> gftp
[05:59] <BockBilbo> whyameye, gftp
[05:59] <BlueEagle> reiki: You might want to open your /etc/fstab and remove the old entry
[05:59] <walde> or kabear, whyameye
[05:59] <BockBilbo> ... anyone here knows how to make fglrx work on breezy?
[05:59] <imterro> jack- apt-get install gftp
[05:59] <walde> aeeh kbear, whyameye
[06:00] <reiki> BlueEagle, I did that
[06:00] <BlueEagle> and it's noauto,user not noauto, user
[06:00] <BlueEagle> (notice the lack of space after ,
[06:00] <jack-> imterro: i know, thx
[06:00] <fblade> BlueEagle : defualt sink worked but not defualt source
[06:00] <imterro> :)
[06:00] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... noting lack of space :)
[06:00] <imterro> cool, so can anyone help me get my wlan working?
[06:00] <jack-> i would, if i had wlan experience :p
[06:00] <BlueEagle> reiki: ;D
[06:00] <whyameye> walde, I'm now running with gftp. Thanks!
[06:01] <xophEr> is there going to be a 2.6.13 ubuntu-kernel? And one other question, where can I get hold of an 'ubuntu' kernel configuration file?
[06:02] <LinuxJones> xophEr, in the /boot directory
[06:02] <jack-> is it possible to "upgrade" to breezy from hoary, without doing a fresh install? by replacing the repositories in the config and upgrading all available packages?
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fblade: Have you got a microphone hooked up?
[06:02] <[ubu-e] nblade> jack-, yes
[06:02] <Hoxzer> is it possible to setup ubuntu to upload files to ftp automaticaly
[06:02] <Hoxzer> when edited
[06:02] <Utopiate> I try to apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 and I have the latest installed, but the NVIDIA installer can't find the source tree. What is the unbuntu kernel source dir?
[06:02] <jack-> great, thx
[06:02] <Hoxzer> and make like 10 version of it
[06:02] <fblade> BlueEagle : No
[06:02] <Hoxzer> by the date
[06:02] <xophEr> LinuxJones, what do I find there? a .config-file for my current kernels?
[06:02] <jack-> does it work smoothly?
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fblade: Then you don't really need to worry about the source.
[06:02] <[ubu-e] nblade> Hoxzer, it is possible, i just dunno how to do :p
[06:03] <Hoxzer> ok...
[06:03] <reiki> BlueEagle,  ok... I used sudo... from terminal... and get permission denied trying to do that append to fstab
[06:03] <joe_alf> pcharky,  i did put comment on /etc/ppp/resolv.conf
[06:03] <LinuxJones> xophEr, the kernel config files are named config-2.6.12-8-k7 for example
[06:03] <Hoxzer> thats what i'm going to do next time I do something...
[06:03] <Hoxzer> this littlebit sucks :D
[06:03] <fblade> thnks aot blueeagle
[06:03] <Hoxzer> I just removed stuff what I have created like one week
[06:03] <fblade> it works
[06:03] <Utopiate> some files I have noticed don't like sudo reiki I switch to root using su.
[06:03] <Hoxzer> and I have to re remeber everything...
[06:03] <BlueEagle> fblade: no problem.
[06:04] <xophEr> LinuxJones, found em. Hm, can I change these files directly? or do I need to recompile the kernel if I want to change some settings..
[06:04] <bytefoo> what do i use to create an image of a dvd
[06:04] <bytefoo> dd ?
[06:04] <Hoxzer> EI :D
[06:04] <Hoxzer> ...
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> dd can do it.. deopends on what you want to do with the image afterwards
[06:04] <walde> xophEr, you need to recompile of course.
[06:04] <Utopiate> Anyone know the Linux Kernel Source DIR in Ubuntu?
[06:05] <bytefoo> i want to be able to share it and then let someone else burn it
[06:05] <xophEr> just checking :)
[06:05] <xophEr> thanks
[06:05] <pcharky> joe_alf: if you restart the connection, does it copy over the file?
[06:05] <bytefoo> so maybe dd it as an iso
[06:05] <[ubu-e] nblade> Utopiate, /usr/src
[06:05] <joe_alf> pcharky,  i'll check. brb
[06:05] <Utopiate> Hrmmm...
[06:05] <[ubu-e] nblade> Utopiate, /usr/src/linux-2.x.x
[06:06] <LinuxJones> xophEr, if your missing some functionality that you absolutely must have then you have 2 options. Compile your own kernel (not recommended) or ask one of the Ubuntu kernel guys about adding the functionality in the stock Ubuntu kernel.
[06:06] <LinuxJones> xophEr, what are you missing ?
[06:06] <xophEr> drivers for my NIC
[06:06] <xophEr> they are included in 2.6.13..
[06:06] <LinuxJones> what kind of nic is it ?
[06:07] <xophEr> marvell Yukon 1000mb (sk98lin)
[06:07] <[ubu-e] nblade> Utopiate, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[06:07] <xophEr> I already compiled the kernel, running it atm, but it failed to mount local filesystems at boot, thats why I need to do it again..
[06:07] <Utopiate> done it nblade...
[06:08] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... /etc/fstab is edited ... now do I have to restart the machine or what to get this working? Is fstab reread on events like inserting an flash drive?
[06:08] <Utopiate> should I extract the package in /usr/src?
[06:08] <xophEr> what should I do better this time? The filesystems are built as modules right?
[06:08] <setite> how do i make an irc script
[06:08] <jack-> lol
[06:08] <jack-> setite: depends on your client
[06:08] <jack-> isnt really related to ubuntu
[06:08] <setite> i need to make a script that auto identifies... i have the code
[06:08] <BlueEagle> reiki: no, just umount the device (if mounted) and mount it.
[06:09] <Utopiate> What client setite?
[06:09] <h0sl3r> this dist-pgrade needs to end soon
[06:09] <setite> konversation
[06:09] <[ubu-e] nblade> Utopiate, hmm, yea, go to /usr/src in a terminal and run tar -xvzf linux-source*
[06:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: rebooting won't do anything except for unmounting it (since you've got the noauto option set)
[06:09] <LinuxJones> xophEr, this might be usefull >>  http://www.syskonnect.com/syskonnect/support/driver/readme/linux/sk98lin.htm
[06:09] <Utopiate> doing it now...
[06:09] <setite> im looking in the help... but i dont see how to actually do it
[06:09] <reiki> BlueEagle, won't it automount on insertion?
[06:09] <reiki> like a CD?
[06:09] <Utopiate> setite? what IRC client you using?
[06:09] <jack-> konversation sucks
[06:09] <jack-> use xchat instead..
[06:09] <bitkrom> hi
[06:09] <setite> konversation
[06:09] <bitkrom> or irssi-text
[06:10] <Utopiate> eeww...
[06:10] <xophEr> Whats the 'bootup logo' in ..Graphics support @ menuconfig ?
[06:10] <LinuxJones> imterro, I don't have a wireless network card
[06:10] <setite> jack- i will if you will tell me how to make the script
[06:10] <Utopiate> listen to bitkrom setite...
[06:10] <jack-> its downloadable
[06:10] <LinuxJones> imterro, Have you checked the wiki wireless howto ?
[06:10] <Utopiate> or jack I mean
[06:10] <jack-> even freenode have a link to it on their website
[06:10] <BlueEagle> reiki: I do not know how the Enterprise volume manager works. I think that's the piece of software you need to research.
[06:10] <setite> i know it is.... but im not changing clients unless it will get me to my goal faster
[06:10] <xophEr> LinuxJones, Ive tried installing it but Im running a different gcc than the one the stock kernel was compiled with so.. 4.0.2!=3.4.5
[06:10] <setite> konversation is as good as any at this point
[06:10] <bitkrom> irssi-text is great cause its like a bitchx/mirc combo
[06:10] <jack-> it will..
[06:10] <setite> mirc?!
[06:11] <setite> hmmmm i like mirc
[06:11] <Utopiate> xchat setite... xchat if you want a graphical client
[06:11] <setite> but irssi-text sound sgui lacking
[06:11] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok thanks... I'm getting closer :)
[06:11] <bitkrom> ya you take the console feel and you slap mirc into it
[06:11] <Utopiate> it will make your whole irc exp better...
[06:11] <jack-> irssi rules, but its not for everyone
[06:11] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: sorry, but I need that command again.
[06:11] <setite> i will get any client if someone will help me get the auto identification working...
[06:11] <LinuxJones> h0sl3r, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:12] <setite> without that i truly have no reason for using another client
[06:12] <jack-> get xchat, googly for xchat auto identify, done
[06:12] <jack-> 5 minutes, not more
[06:12] <setite> googly?
[06:12] <lunarknight> I was wondering if installing 5.04 and doing all the updates is the same thing as installing 5.10?
[06:12] <jack-> google
[06:12] <jack-> * ;p
[06:12] <LinuxJones> xophEr, the kernel was compiled with which one ?
[06:12] <bitkrom> i think about the fun of xchat but i never go so far as to use it
[06:12] <setite> ok got xchat
[06:13] <jack-> ctcp version me..lol
[06:13] <xophEr> LinuxJones, the ubuntu stock one was compiled with the older one
[06:13] <jack-> those 2 just beat all others
[06:14] <Utopiate> NVIDIA driver time...
[06:14] <Utopiate> later
[06:14] <bytefoo> gnomebaker can create dvd isos yeh?
[06:14] <LinuxJones> xophEr, that sucks :(
[06:14] <bytefoo> i hope it can :/
[06:14] <bytefoo> since it says reading CD and not dvd :X
[06:15] <joe_alf> pcharky, now it's okey. thank you very much for the help.
[06:15] <xophEr> LinuxJones, nothing sucks ;) Im already compiling another kernel, 2.6.13.1 this time. With the ubuntu stock kernel settings, so this time it should work, right? :)
[06:15] <imterro> i LOVE how acer has drivers for every wireless card they put in the laptops BUT MINE!!!!!!11
[06:15] <imterro> fuck i want to kill them
[06:16] <setite> ok perfect
[06:16] <setite> xchat is ugly but i got it to connect to both of my fave networks and channels and autoidentify
[06:16] <LinuxJones> xophEr, did you add the support for your nic card in the config ?
[06:16] <jack-> you see
[06:16] <jack-> you can skin and adjust it quite a lot
[06:16] <xophEr> LinuxJones, of course :)
[06:16] <setite> i see that it's easier... im sure the same could be done to konversation.. without the gtk ugliness
[06:16] <LinuxJones> xophEr, lol, then you should be ok :)
[06:17] <IcE-bOy> are there any systray evolution notification icon ?
[06:17] <xophEr> yeah
[06:17] <jack-> sounds like you mainly need a decent gtk theme, though
[06:17] <jack-> ;p
[06:17] <setite> i love how firefox is now psychic
[06:17] <setite> yea... gtk sucks it
[06:17] <jack-> adjust it
[06:17] <setite> i will
[06:17] <jack-> gtk-theme is your friend
[06:17] <setite> this is a fresh install
[06:17] <xophEr> you guys know of a program with which I can monitor my SSH-activity easily?
[06:18] <setite> i just finished getting the basics up
[06:18] <jack-> :)
[06:18] <setite> now im getting to the minor things
[06:18] <Tadej`Certanc> hi ppl
[06:18] <Tadej`Certanc> how do I update all packages on my system?
[06:19] <pkern> How could I get a verbose boot of the kernel?
[06:19] <joe_alf> pcharky, thank you again.
[06:19] <Kyral> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:19] <Tadej`Certanc> kyncani: thanks
[06:19] <Tadej`Certanc> Kyral: thanks
[06:19] <pkern> Kyral: aptitude is better on dist-upgrade
[06:19] <pcharky> joe_alf: great, sorry, I was off reading a book (for a change).
[06:19] <setite> hey jack-
[06:19] <jack-> ?
[06:19] <Oewyn> I made a script to load at boot-up /etc/init.d etc, but now whenever i try to log into GNOME i get this warning that it can't find the ip address for . (had this before but was never connected to a network before) but now whenever i hit login anyway, it doesn't continue on. (the button stays depressed and i have to ctrl-alt-backspace to get out))
[06:19] <Arkand> Whats the best way of setting up a remote desktop without having to be logged in and having a session active?
[06:19] <setite> gtk theme switcher will work even if i dont have gnome right
[06:19] <jack-> yeah
[06:20] <Kyral> pkern, I <3 apt :P
[06:20] <jack-> gtk isnt gnome
[06:20] <setite> i know
[06:20] <jack-> doesnt need any part of it
[06:20] <setite> but i was asking still
[06:20] <setite> just to be sure
[06:20] <setite> linux can be odd
[06:20] <jack-> no worries
[06:20] <pkern> Kyral: Your choice, aptitude has the better algorithm.
[06:20] <jack-> yeah :P
[06:20] <Kyral> pkern: apt-get has never set me wrong..
[06:21] <setite> ok lets pray there is a kde theme :)
[06:21] <mpm2> would there be any disadvantage in recursively chmodding my home dir to 755?
[06:21] <Kyral> eww KDE...
[06:21] <jack-> kde is cute
[06:21] <jack-> bloated, but not bad
[06:21] <Kyral> um....I think so....then again my mind is half gone...
[06:21] <Kyral> GNOME forever
[06:21] <jack-> i'm using gnome too
[06:21] <jack-> but still kde on my mac :p
[06:22] <setite> not so lucky... ah well anythign beats this win95esque default
[06:22] <Oewyn> anyone have any clue?
[06:22] <Arkand> Whats the best way of setting up a remote desktop without having to be logged in and having a session active?
[06:22] <Oewyn> it said to look at /etc/host(s) but that folder doesn't exist.
[06:22] <setite> wait the first oen says kde3.. nice
[06:22] <jack-> thats a file oewyn
[06:22] <jack-> doesnt have to exist, but can
[06:23] <Oewyn> okay second then...
[06:23] <setite> wheres the gtk-theme-switch... do i have to run it from the konsole
[06:24] <reiki> BlueEagle, I restarted and now that usb flash drive mounts and unmounts as expected. Took a little "fiddling" but.... thanks for all your help :)
[06:24] <LinuxJones> setite, system >> preferences >> themes
[06:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: Ahh, very nice! :)
[06:25] <setite> oooh not quite... but i can figure it out.. thank jones
[06:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: Glad I could help.
[06:25] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I need to going on internet on a Win2k that's connected via LAN to a Linux ubuntu.How can I do? Have I to set Win2k or Linux? Or both?
[06:26] <fidde> plz help n00b
[06:26] <setite> are you asking a noob for help?
[06:26] <setite> hey who knows how to alter a gtk theme in kde
[06:27] <fidde> no i need help cause i'm a n00b
[06:27] <fidde> :)
[06:27] <Alex_BO> can anybody help me?
[06:27] <funkyHat> just ask your question fidde
[06:27] <erUSUL> Alex_BO, in win set the linux machine as gateaway
[06:27] <Alex_BO> erUSUL, it doesn't work
[06:28] <topyli> speaking of themes, root apps such as synaptic don't follow my theme preference. i copied my .gtkrc to /root but apps use the default theme
[06:28] <erUSUL> Alex_BO, enable NAT on the linux box
[06:28] <fidde> ok..i've got no sound
[06:28] <setite> shit man... synaptic doesnt even work the same
[06:28] <Alex_BO> erUSUL, i've not done that. i do it now
[06:28] <fidde> dual soundcards
[06:28] <setite> when installed after kubuntu.. and not with regular ubuntu
[06:28] <setite> adding repos is not the same
[06:29] <setite> in ubuntu synaptic you can just past the deb line... you dont have the same options... you have to enter them seperately
[06:29] <Arkand> Whats the best way of setting up a remote desktop without having to be logged in and having a session active?
[06:29] <thesaltydog> I have an ethernat card and a wireless card in my laptop. How can I know how the system maps them to etho ore eth1?
[06:29] <setite> imterro, windows has it's merit... although few
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Arkand,  depends on what ya mean by remote desktop.
[06:29] <setite> it offers the safety of knowing everythign will work.. at a price
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> You could set up vnc to startup a desktop when you connect remotely with a vnc client
[06:29] <topyli> Arkand: run a vnc server i guess
[06:30] <imterro> thesaltydog, give up now
[06:30] <imterro> its a neverednign battle
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> or you could ssh in, and start up the vnc server manually
[06:30] <imterro> ubuntu doesnt like the ideas of radiowaves
[06:30] <Seveas> Arkand, freenx can easily do that
[06:30] <Arkand> Dr_Willis, I want to be able to be in vork and connect back to my home box and use X at home
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Arkand,  vnc is very handy for that.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> or freenx
[06:30] <thesaltydog> imterro, should I resinstall hoary? It was working there
[06:30] <Oewyn> of couse.... ^z and fs doesn't work sheesh
[06:30] <setite> imterro, please refrain from that
[06:30] <fidde> funkyHat, i've got no sound and dual soundcards
[06:31] <Arkand> ive looked at VNC server, but i couldnt get it to configure that I would get into gnome when I logged in, when I logged in it was just a blank screen
[06:31] <imterro> setite ok
[06:31] <imterro> sorry
[06:31] <funkyHat> fidde, what soundcards do you have, and which one do you want to use?
[06:31] <Oewyn> okay i looked in /etc/hosts and found just a bunch of ipv6 stuff, which i don't think i'm on (ipv6 that is)
[06:31] <bytefoo> :|
[06:31] <setite> thesaltydog, your wireless shoudl be wlan0
[06:31] <setite> and the etherenet eth0
[06:31] <setite> ethernet*
[06:31] <topyli> Arkand: you were running a bare X, with no window manager it seems
[06:31] <imterro> setite any idea why m wireless is eth1?
[06:31] <imterro> *my
[06:32] <thesaltydog> setite, "should" is nice... But how?
[06:32] <bytefoo> mine is eth1 too
[06:32] <Arkand> topyli, can I configure it to run gnome when I vnc in?
[06:32] <fidde> funkyHat, an integrated intel card (i think) and a turtle beach wich is the one i want to use
[06:32] <bytefoo> dunno whatcha talkin bout for wlan0
[06:32] <bytefoo> :/
[06:32] <setite> no... not sure... i will run a quick look on the forums... i dont know if it matters much
[06:33] <Oewyn> should i just nuke the /etc/hosts file in order to let GNOME login or what?
[06:33] <erUSUL> imterro, the name of the interface depends on the driver
[06:33] <funkyHat> fidde, go to http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ and find your turtle beach soundcard
[06:33] <Flying-Penguin> so...
[06:33] <ProdegyX> How do I change my Screen Res?
[06:33] <imterro> erUSUL i havet installed any drivers for it
[06:33] <Flying-Penguin> I am going to ask a question that I forgot the awnser for
[06:33] <lakcaj> ProdegyX, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:33] <imterro> erUSUL, im going to try wrap the windows ones
[06:33] <Flying-Penguin> what is a program that allows me to edit my pannles!?
[06:33] <setite> try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64526&highlight=wireless+eth1
[06:33] <setite> !resolution
[06:33] <ubotu> resolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:33] <Arkand> topyli, before when I was running Fedora, there was an xstartup file in .vnc dir in my home directory, but it doesnt seem to be the case on this install, I was running KDE, now im running Gnome
[06:34] <imterro> although i find it strange that linux needs windows drivers
[06:34] <ProdegyX> lakcaj do I type that?
[06:34] <Utopiate> speaking of driver... when the NVIDIA installer says that it can't find libc devel what package do I need installed?
[06:34] <setite> !tell ProdegyX about resolution
[06:34] <lakcaj> ProdegyX, follow the link setite got the bot to show
[06:34] <erUSUL> Utopiate, libc-devel? ;)
[06:34] <setite> Utopiate, build-essential?
[06:34] <LinuxJones> Utopiate, there are Nvidia drivers build for Ubuntu already
[06:34] <Utopiate> can't find package...
[06:34] <setite> yea
[06:34] <Utopiate> apt-get NVIDIA?
[06:34] <setite> !tell Utopiate about nvidia
[06:34] <Oewyn> So any ideas on the /etc/hosts file and how it makes GNOME not start up if it's already connected to a network?
[06:34] <setite> nah
[06:34] <setite> nvidia-glx
[06:35] <LinuxJones> Utopiate, like that yeah
[06:35] <topyli> Arkand: you need to create the file then
[06:35] <Utopiate> k
[06:35] <setite> go to that wiki
[06:35] <Flying-Penguin> Utopiate: apt-get nvidia-glx
[06:35] <setite> its read fast
[06:35] <LinuxJones> Utopiate, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:35] <Utopiate> thanks for link bot!!
[06:35] <Utopiate> ;-)
[06:35] <setite> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:35] <erUSUL> Utopiate, libc6-devel? ;)
[06:35] <setite> then another command to enable
[06:35] <Utopiate> heh... I GOT IT!! jees...
[06:35] <Utopiate> ;_0
[06:35] <Arkand> topyli, Do I need to be logged in for VNC to work or is that only Ubuntus native remote desktop app?
[06:35] <Flying-Penguin> setite: LOL ohh ya, so simple
[06:35] <setite> then restart x and watch the ugly nvidia logo
[06:35] <Utopiate> heh...
[06:35] <Flying-Penguin> you will hav to change your xorg.conf
[06:35] <thesaltydog> My wireless card is eth0, but the kernel tries to load the card firmware in eth1...
[06:36] <setite> the ugly logo is beauty when you realize it means success
[06:36] <setite> cant wait for breezy's usplash
[06:36] <ProdegyX> Will Someone Please Explain To Me How To Edit Resolution, Because this is not teaching me correctly
[06:36] <setite> no more mesmerizing loading
[06:36] <topyli> Arkand: you can run the server at boot, then connect to it. or you can ssh in and start it
[06:36] <setite> i knwo why windows blocks the loading... its h ard to watch and hard not to watch
[06:36] <Utopiate> It's ok... the e17 loading screen makes up for the nvidia "ugliness"...
[06:36] <setite> someone
[06:37] <fidde> funkyHat, my soundcard is supported by ALSA, it's ALSA i'm trying to start
[06:37] <Flying-Penguin> so...
[06:37] <setite> does gtk-theme-switcher have a guide
[06:37] <Flying-Penguin> what is the same of that program that helps you edit your gnome pannles?
[06:37] <funkyHat> fidde, you need to disable your onboard soundcard... maybe there's an option in your BIOS to do that?
[06:37] <Arkand> topyli, Surely its not just a matter of me creating an xstartup file?
[06:38] <fblade> hey guys how can i get my bluetooth adapter on my ubuntu?
[06:38] <Alex_BO> erUSUL, how can i see what dns server i am using on linux?
[06:38] <jack-> setite: on my system its "gtk-chtheme" from the shell
[06:38] <topyli> Arkand: that should do it, although i don't remember the name of the vnc xsession file
[06:38] <jack-> pretty self-explaining, you can easily add themes too
[06:38] <erUSUL> Alex_BO, less /etc/resolv.conf
[06:38] <fidde> funkyHat, i'll have to check
[06:39] <Arkand> topyli, /etc/X11/Xsession ??
[06:39] <Alex_BO> erUSUL, tnks
[06:39] <topyli> setite: gtk-theme-switch installs two binaries, switch for gtk1 themes and swich2 for gtk2
[06:39] <Oewyn> okay, so any ideas how to let gnome login again, i make a script to connect to my wireless network during startup, but now, this error that always pops up (can't find ip address for .) doesn't let me continue on the screen says on that dialog even after the button is pressed) /etc/hosts has ipv6 information, but i don't have ipv6.
[06:39] <setite> yea soemthing on the forum says run gtk-theme-switch2
[06:39] <topyli> Arkand: no, in your home directory i guess
[06:40] <topyli> setite: switch2 i say :)
[06:41] <funkyHat> will there also be a grub splash image in breezy?
[06:41] <setite> yea
[06:41] <funkyHat> :)
[06:41] <Utopiate> If I remove the (Load "dri") in xorg.conf does that mena I can also remove the Section "DRI"
[06:41] <Utopiate> 	Mode	0666
[06:41] <Utopiate> EndSection
[06:41] <setite> whoa not answering you
[06:41] <setite> sorry
[06:41] <funkyHat> oh lol
[06:42] <setite> grub may be forever ugly
[06:42] <setite> now i just gotta figure how to install the theme... its erroring when i select the tarball
[06:42] <fblade> hey guys how can i get my bluetooth adapter on my ubuntu?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> I sort of perfer a nice simple grub menu
[06:42] <funkyHat> well, if so, i can just make my own using the new usplash image, so it's not all that bad :)
[06:42] <setite> Dr_Willis, some of yall will always like the ugliness.... :)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  i just plugged in mine. and installed/ran the bluetooth programs.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> setite,  i dont see a need for gfx on a screen i see for 10 sec.. and may select one entry. :P
[06:43] <fblade> what bluetooth programs?
[06:43] <setite> yes... and to each his own i say... your statements just back up mine
[06:43] <Oewyn> oh well, i guess i'll have to figure it out later... thank goodness i figured out how to use the console irc app before i added that startup script.
[06:43] <setite> ah... that theme is not as i expected
[06:44] <setite> a definite improvement
[06:44] <setite> wait... i dont think it did anything
[06:44] <setite> haha that is the kde theme thats altering
[06:44] <setite> ah ewll
[06:45] <fblade> Dr_Willis what program did you use?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  i just did an apt-cache search bluetooth - and i think there was some bluetooth deamons/tools i installed.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> fblade,  i think i had better luck with the kde bluetooth stuff.
[06:46] <funkyHat> anyone that's been around and chatted with me, would you say breezy is stable enough for me to cope with fixing it?
[06:46] <funkyHat> *fixing any issues that may come up
[06:47] <Utopiate> I changed my xorg.conf as it should be but still get no nvidia logo and glxgears sez that no glx extension can be found for display 0:0
[06:47] <leopard> Anyone know of an application like eJay on Windows, but for Ubuntu?
[06:47] <Utopiate> wine or winex leopard
[06:48] <funkyHat> leopard, use wine or winex to get eJay working on linux
[06:48] <funkyHat> i think it's some kind of music education thing...
[06:48] <leopard> Utopiate: if I can help it, I'd prefer not to use any Windows-based applications.
[06:48] <leopard> eJay is a music composition tool...it lets you drag and drop sounds to create a music file.
[06:49] <Utopiate> unless you can find ejay for liux then your stuck...
[06:49] <Utopiate> winex works great though...
[06:49] <funkyHat> um...
[06:49] <funkyHat> ;)
[06:49] <leopard> I thought winex got transitioned into Cedega?
[06:49] <funkyHat> no
[06:50] <funkyHat> cedega is a rip off of wine
[06:50] <setite> transitioned? hmmmm
[06:50] <setite> dont know if thats fair
[06:50] <funkyHat> wine is still under development
[06:50] <leopard> So there still is a seperate winex project outside of wine?
[06:50] <funkyHat> well, not the right word
[06:50] <setite> wine, winex, cedega(a focused offshoot of winex), and crossover office(a joke)
[06:51] <leopard> I thought there was wine, and winex was Transgaming's baby, which they renamed cedega.
[06:51] <funkyHat> haha
[06:51] <funkyHat> @ setite
[06:51] <leopard> Wine of course being seperate.
[06:51] <Lie-Algebra> can someone tell me how I can access the services( to remove few of them) that are launched automatically after the boot process?
[06:51] <leopard> Thanks for clearing this up all.
[06:51] <setite> leopard thats the impression given.. but oddly i dont think its quite true... but it might as well be
[06:52] <Utopiate> hrmmm...
[06:52] <Utopiate> got it working but only 17 FPS?
[06:52] <leopard> setite: I think I read it on transgaming's web site.
[06:52] <funkyHat> what i understood was winex was a free/oss project, which had some kind of liscence loophole
[06:52] <setite> im glad its clear for you.. because not for me
[06:52] <funkyHat> which transgaming exploited
[06:52] <setite> Utopiate, what?
[06:52] <HiddenFly> what was the url for the backports repository?
[06:52] <lsuactiafner> how do i write a .vob to a dvd so a dvd player will play it?
[06:52] <setite> ya
[06:52] <setite> and that is also why cedega has a free CVS
[06:52] <funkyHat> yeah
[06:52] <Utopiate> I got the nvidia drivers working but they only run at 17 FPS!
[06:52] <setite> its for the better
[06:52] <Arkand> Can anyone help me configure VNC, When I login I get the following: http://www.deconstructor.net/Screenshot.png - I want to get gnome to be the default session, any help is appreciated
[06:53] <setite> Utopiate, run glxgears
[06:53] <Utopiate> That's what got 17 FPS!
[06:53] <setite> woot i got 12050
[06:53] <lsuactiafner> Utopiate : glxinfo | grep direct
[06:53] <setite> then you must not have the driver right
[06:53] <setite> yea what he said
[06:53] <leopard> Well, I did a Linux audio show, so now I'm just looking for an intro and exit song.
[06:54] <funkyHat> Arkand, have you tried using the terminal server client? (applications > internet > terminal server client)
[06:54] <Utopiate> Direct rendering: Yes
[06:54] <lsuactiafner> Utopiate : if you dont get yes, then in /etc/X11/xorg.conf change "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:54] <setite> hmmm
[06:54] <setite> did you see the logo?
[06:54] <setite> the nvidia one
[06:54] <setite> well nvm you got the yes... odd
[06:54] <setite> what card
[06:54] <Utopiate> The driver looks fine and everything works... it's just slower then on any other distro...
[06:54] <Utopiate> gforce4 MX 4000 64meg pci
[06:54] <setite> 17fps is not goot
[06:54] <Arkand> funkyHat, What does the terminal client do different? please go on?
[06:55] <Utopiate> ns 17 fps isn't good
[06:55] <ompaul> lets see what happens :) 790 upgraded, 312 newly installed, 42 to remove and 2 not upgraded. :: Need to get 679MB of archives.
[06:55] <setite> you should be getting around 500 at least i think if 3d acceleration is eneabled
[06:55] <kent> Is there an howto on the moin wiki for ubuntu? I installed it, and have a fresh apache2 installed, but moin dont seem to work. I added an alias for it in apache2.conf
[06:55] <funkyHat> Arkand, i don't know exactly what it does different to the VNC client you're using, i just thought it would be worth a try :
[06:55] <funkyHat> *:)
[06:55] <Utopiate> setite: is the ubuntu package old drivers?
[06:56] <setite> Utopiate, im checking the forums...
[06:56] <setite> well they arent the latest
[06:56] <setite> breezy has the latest
[06:56] <setite> but as im gettin 12k fps its not the drivers
[06:56] <leopard> WineX is a transgaming product. Wine is still open source, but when I search for winex on google I get Transgaming. Even the SF page notes that wineX is NOT licensed under an open source license.
[06:56] <setite> did you do what the tutorial said to enable them?
[06:56] <Utopiate> transgaming runs winex as a yearly service or 2 major versions
[06:57] <setite> yearly?
[06:57] <setite> its monthly... with a minimum of 3 months(15$us) up front
[06:57] <leopard> I've been a transgaming subscriber for about a year. I don't really use it.
[06:57] <Utopiate> yeah... you have one year subscription or two major version which ever first... or so I thought...
[06:57] <setite> its cheaper if you go tearly
[06:57] <setite> leopard, same here... 6 months.. .hate it... too slow
[06:57] <Utopiate> heh
[06:57] <Utopiate> linux native is the way to go and I support it because we need more games!
[06:58] <setite> city of heroes is unplayable.... the response to an attack i click is up to 4 seconds...
[06:58] <setite> time it takes to get killed
[06:58] <leopard> setite: yep...Diablo II blows on this PIII 1GHz notebook under Cedega...and there's the mouse problem.
[06:58] <Utopiate> transgaming has the right idea but it doesn't help us getting native games...
[06:58] <setite> yea the moust thing is a problem
[06:58] <setite> i assume its because i run it in a window
[06:58] <Utopiate> The only games I ever played don't work in cedega
[06:59] <setite> i cant get a proper resolution if i dont run it in a window
[06:59] <leopard> Utopiate: true, and with the plethora of PS/2 games, you would think it wouldn't be too difficult to do something for the major video cards.
[06:59] <setite> Utopiate, the problem is you need to subscribe
[06:59] <setite> there is alot fo workarounds that only subscribers know
[06:59] <gardenia> Utopiate, im not even sure they have the right idea given how many games dont work or dont work effectively
[06:59] <leopard> bbiab
[06:59] <setite> liekt he city of heroes installer wont work unless you run it in a simulated desktop enviro of 1024x768...
[06:59] <setite> one could never learn that on ones own
[07:00] <Utopiate> All the games I have played using the cedega rpms for mandrake have worked beautifully...
[07:00] <gardenia> setite, all the more reason to play native games..I mean we are using linux right ? <G>
[07:00] <setite> Utopiate, there is a guy on the forum with your problem
[07:00] <Utopiate> url?
[07:00] <setite> but
[07:00] <Utopiate> but...
[07:00] <setite> it fixed it self
[07:00] <setite> hehe
[07:00] <gardenia> Utopiate, if your so into windows games why bother running linux at all
[07:00] <setite> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46692&highlight=low+fps+nvidia
[07:00] <Utopiate> might just need a reboot...
[07:00] <setite> im reading on though
[07:00] <setite> gardenia, stop that... come on
[07:00] <gardenia> Utopiate, you do little to advance linux adoption this way
[07:00] <setite> thats not the right attitude
[07:00] <gardenia> setite, stop what
[07:01] <gardenia> setite, isn't it ?
[07:01] <Hoxzer> ... :E
[07:01] <setite> the fact is one cant have their cake and eat it too in this world.... until all games are ported
[07:01] <Hoxzer> does open office save last edited files somewhere?
[07:01] <lsuactiafner> how do i mount .vob files? i want to access the file structure?
[07:01] <M-ilaNL> i have a question
[07:01] <ompaul> setite, supporting people who do not make Linux games does not help Linux
[07:01] <Utopiate> gardenia: if you read up a bit I posted that native is the way to go but transgaming has the right idea creating an interest...
[07:01] <gardenia> Utopiate, yeah I saw it
[07:01] <leopard> I own quite a few Loki games.
[07:01] <gardenia> Utopiate, and I disagree completely
[07:01] <Utopiate> if they release crappy shit that half works people are going to play but want native so it's not half weorking...
[07:01] <gardenia> leopard, me too
[07:01] <setite> oh but it does... i pay for the game.. then bitch to support to support linux
[07:02] <Utopiate> dissagree?
[07:02] <gardenia> completely
[07:02] <setite> i doubt it does much... but not buying their games doesnt make them want to either
[07:02] <setite> soem games are native
[07:02] <setite> istn hl2 coming native soon?
[07:02] <gardenia> I haven't bought a windows game in 'years'
[07:02] <gardenia> and I dont plan on it either ;-0)
[07:02] <setite> im not sure if i heard that or not
[07:03] <setite> gardenia, im sure mother theresa and gandhi are proud :)
[07:03] <gardenia> is my grown stuned because OMG@Q@ I dont play/suppport windows games ?....NO ;-))...good grief you guys what weenies
[07:03] <Utopiate> Nor have I... I have alot of native games and it's really to bad the Loki went down...
[07:03] <setite> M-ilaNL, just ask and hope
[07:03] <smach> hello every body
[07:03] <gardenia> smach, hi
[07:03] <gardenia> Utopiate, so support linuxgamepublishing then ;-)
[07:03] <M-ilaNL> i have windows on a RAID 0 array and it works great. but when i insert the ubuntu disk it recognises 2 disks :S
[07:03] <setite> Utopiate, that thread may have the answer yet
[07:04] <setite> here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=243325&postcount=6
[07:04] <Utopiate> gardenia: I had no idea this place existed...
[07:04] <gardenia> setite, why make triffle of an important issue
[07:04] <leopard> Bitching does help... I commented to a software company about the fact that I expected to get some extra software in their "suite" because it was shown on the front. It turned out that you had to download the extra stuff and the download was 'broke.' The company sent me a brand new full edition of the software (retailed for a few hundred), but support like that rarely occurs.
[07:04] <smach> do someone knows how to install superkaramba
[07:04] <gardenia> setite, thats utter nonsense...coming from a ubuntu user im rather disappointed
[07:05] <ompaul> setite, well the one oil company said something like , "we can deal with regulation, we can't deal with customer rejection" where does that leave your arguement?
[07:05] <setite> i dont aspire to be some OSS supporting saint... i make do...
[07:05] <setite> the support may never come
[07:06] <M-ilaNL> how can i install ubuntu on a raid 0 array? it recognises 2 disks :S
[07:06] <setite> but there are new emulation methods in the works so that it may not need to
[07:06] <Arkand> !resolution
[07:06] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:06] <ompaul> setite, one day you may agree with me, but I suggest it will not be during the next week :)
[07:07] <Arkand> !lapdancers
[07:07] <ubotu> Arkand: Wish i knew
[07:07] <setite> ompaul, if i dont buy hl2.. i wont be missed.. but i will miss out... i wont torture myself for a cause... it would take a petition and hundreds or thousand of open protests/petitions to do it... so why dont you start a petition?
[07:07] <Utopiate> setite: I'm not using agp... is that post for agp?
[07:07] <setite> your on pci?!!!!?!?!?!?
[07:07] <setite> haha
[07:07] <setite> yea its abotu nvidia agp and gart...
[07:07] <setite> sorry
[07:07] <setite> in that case i dont know..[. ill look some more
[07:08] <setite> whoa pci yields nothing but a pci express
[07:08] <ompaul> setite, my position would not allow me to represent gamers :) to put it simply I don't game
[07:08] <snorks> fucking quit the game
[07:08] <setite> i would say hope that it fixes itself
[07:08] <snorks> ouch :( sorry wrong channel
[07:08] <setite> or attempt a full reboot
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:08] <M-ilaNL> i have a question about RAID 0 does any1 knows something about it...???
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Discussing Everquest snorks ? :P
[07:09] <fblade> how can i activate my on board sd card reader on ubuntu
[07:09] <Utopiate> nah... I'll get it.. thanks setite! I appreciate the help!
[07:09] <snorks> Dr_Willis: :P WoW :P
[07:09] <setite> ompaul, as is the issue with many linuxers... thats what linux attracts.... the cheaper crowd... not to say poorer.. just a less consumer driven audience
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  lol.. My brother has been playing that on my account for the last 4 mo.. i aint been on it in ages
[07:09] <snorks> Dr_Willis: I've been on both :)
[07:09] <setite> as long as windows is there... and especially why cedega moves on... developers wont bother
[07:09] <snorks> Dr_Willis: good for you. It's so crap
[07:10] <MuadDib_> Hi all
[07:10] <fblade> how can i activate my on board sd card reader on ubuntu
[07:10] <setite> its not an economically sound route in regards to resources that can better be used elsewhere
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  statements liek that are almost always overly broad and vague :P and often wrong.. everytjhing has its good and bad points. :P
[07:10] <setite> unless a sector were to up and boycott.. thus making the game developers feel the pain ,so to speak, nothing will happen... so yea..
[07:10] <setite> how about them mets
[07:11] <MuadDib_> I've some trouble to build a kernel 2.6.13 on my Hoary ! Where I can found some todo ?
[07:11] <snorks> Dr_Willis: But really, if you played EQ then WoW is not for you. It's for the D2'ers and the new-to-mmorpg'ers
[07:11] <setite> WoW is the devil
[07:11] <snorks> Dr_Willis: And the server instability, and the bugs
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> MuadDib_ : a howto, the internet is full of em
[07:11] <MuadDib_> lol
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> !compilekernel
[07:11] <ubotu> lsuactiafner: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:11] <setite> i wonder how it fares under linux
[07:11] <setite> it lagged like a mofo under my gaming beast in windows... and i could not remedy it
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Eq I was so amazing... annoying in ways.. :P  I much perfered the easy style of wow.. but now its geting all uber-gamerish it seems..  :P
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> i run doom, UT and quake very well on linux
[07:12] <setite> wow takes too much time
[07:12] <snorks> EQ was brilliant
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> face it - all MMORPGS - are getting bla.
[07:12] <setite> and ive seen peoples lives ruing by wow
[07:12] <cdc> guys where you got the knwoledge in learniong Linux developing?
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> q3a source is damn fast
[07:12] <snorks> setite: wow takes too little time ;)
[07:12] <setite> Dr_Willis, i agree to an extent
[07:12] <MuadDib_> lsuactiafner, I know how to compile a kernel, but with this Hoary I've some trouble !
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  "was"
[07:12] <snorks> Dr_Willis: h,mm yeah :/
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> MuadDib_ : what kind of error?
[07:12] <setite> wow takes forever, and i hate games with crafts
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> i am guessing in the next year there will be a big fallout with the mmorpgs.. unless they manage to do somthing different.
[07:13] <snorks> setite: wow is a nice kitten compared to EQ
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> www.medievia.com text based game, mud
[07:13] <gardenia> setite, imagine if all cedega users played only linux games..it ahem might increase the level of awarness to game developers that linux is getting alot of play and could easily be a domino effect...if we play them they will come...its not rocket science...and frankly if there is a game you can't live without it doesnt sound like you have much of a life ..I mean gez there are tons of great quality linux games available if you just look ;-)
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> just was much fun and free
[07:13] <setite> my only rpg is city of heroes because i dont waste my time on bs crafts to earn an ingame living... i do that enough in real lige
[07:13] <snorks> setite: i think its physically imposssible to get ones life ruined by WoW. EQ on the other hand is more than capable of that
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Im "Mecico" in City of heros - its very anti-WOW-EQ in soo many ways - Lol.
[07:13] <setite> gardenia, and in a perfect world that woudl work.,...
[07:14] <MuadDib_> lsuactiafner, at boot time I've a kernel panic ! I think it's the initrd, but I think it desactivate in my new kernel config !?
[07:14] <snorks> I'm just waiting for Vanguard now
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> "Medico"  level 35 empath defender! - I cant solo worh a *$*$ but i can heal your backside! lol
[07:14] <setite> Dr_Willis, yea the game is everything they arent and vice versa
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> MuadDib_ : compile /dev/ and hard disk and file system support in with a *
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> But even COH is getting dull.. it seems to be all farming these days
[07:15] <setite> and i can live without my games... as i can live without my tv... or my pepsi, or my cellphone.. but screw all that... i enjoy them
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> same with all the games it seems
[07:15] <genbie> anyone plz tell me how to add multiverse in synaptic.. i was able to add universe by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto but multiverse is not showing :-( do i have to clean up the apt-get cache, if so, how plz?
[07:15] <setite> coh is deadly dull
[07:15] <setite> but i5 is nice... it adds a challenge
[07:15] <setite> i cant wait for cov...
[07:15] <twibbler> does anybody know how to just copy a file to a palm pda from ubuntu please...
[07:15] <snorks> i miss old eq
[07:15] <snorks> with the dragons
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> It can be either great fun.. or dull.. same with most of the games out.
[07:15] <setite> i stopped playing coh because its a waste since i will just go over to cov on release
[07:15] <setite> or when i get my damn beta invite
[07:15] <MuadDib_> lsuactiafner, I miss to compile  /dev in kernel ! I'm going to try that ! tks
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> setite,  but who woll you fight. :P
[07:15] <snorks> guys
[07:16] <snorks> lets meet in vanguard
[07:16] <jmcc> wxwin2.4 and setup.h not found
[07:16] <jmcc> grrr
[07:16] <setite> well it depends onthe server... protector, my server, sucks
[07:16] <setite> no one on at night when i play
[07:16] <gardenia> setite, we're on the sme team or need to be anyway..im not your enemy clearly..im just saying maybe you could look closer at linux gaming and save yourself $5 /mo and actually start to like it ;-)
[07:16] <setite> Dr_Willis, coh will be all but deserted when cov is released...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  you mean    #vanguard  ?
[07:16] <leopard> apt-cache search midi
[07:16] <leopard> oops sorry all
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> setite,  perhaps. :P  but then again.. i  imagind cov will  get dull soon also.
[07:17] <snorks> Dr_Willis: i mean the game under development, Vanguard - Saga of Heroes
[07:17] <gardenia> setite, have you played for exmple venetta or ut2004 or neverwinter nights ??
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  oh? let me google it
[07:17] <jmcc> anyone here familiar with ubuntus wxwin2.4?
[07:17] <snorks> Dr_Willis: by the original creators of EQ
[07:17] <gardenia> setite, all those are high quality games
[07:17] <setite> gardenia, i dont deny that linux gaming may have its merits.. but i really like counterstrike source... which i hear runs well under cedega
[07:17] <snorks> Dr_Willis: Brad McQuaid
[07:17] <gardenia> setite, just as good as hl2 in many respects
[07:17] <setite> i played ut on xbox..
[07:17] <snorks> Dr_Willis: if you cba googlin, www.vanguardsoh.com
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  to be honest.. really EQ1 never did impress me once you got over the gfx. :P
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:17] <gardenia> setite, yes I know some games are addictive..I wont deny that
[07:18] <setite> i dont like hl2... but cs s.... man... i love the simplicity...
[07:18] <snackalot> how do you get on thise game severs
[07:18] <bytefoo> heh
[07:18] <snorks> Dr_Willis: i dont understnad what you mean.. i played eq for 5 years
[07:18] <setite> i shoudl actually go install cedega now
[07:18] <setite> shit i will have to chroot
[07:18] <bytefoo> css is kind of :/
[07:18] <setite> grrrr
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  and i played a few months.. and it got to be the same old grind.
[07:18] <setite> well at least i can just copy the game over from my windows partition
[07:18] <gardenia> setite, I wonder if it runs in wine
[07:19] <setite> it may but not well i would presume
[07:19] <genbie> anyone plz tell me how to add multiverse in synaptic.. i was able to add universe by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto but multiverse is not showing :-( do i have to clean up the apt-get cache, if so, how plz?
[07:19] <vern401> wine?
[07:19] <setite> unless you hve dx9.0b support
[07:19] <gardenia>   yes wine is getting aLOT better with dx9 support
[07:19] <fredforfaen> anybody in here that's burning cdc's at more than 4x?
[07:19] <setite> yea... even cedega lacks 9.0c though.. last i looked
[07:19] <fredforfaen> dvd's*
[07:19] <gardenia> setite, yes its getting really good dx9 support..not perfect prob. but alot better as they  have been focusing on it..verify by going to: #winehq
[07:20] <gardenia> setite, well cedega is a bit like trying to hit a moving target <wink>
[07:20] <hobby> #ubuntu-es
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> ive had very very bad luck with cedega. :(
[07:20] <gardenia> setite, another reason why just ditching and switching is in most gamers best interest <G>
[07:20] <setite> it gets it done... and p2p feeds me with the simplicity i like
[07:20] <vern401> what is wine
[07:20] <setite> !wine
[07:21] <setite> !tell vern401 about wine
[07:21] <gardenia> Dr_Willis, yeah me too..it flat will not run the games I reall love..like dungeon siege or startopia so for me its blah
[07:21] <vern401> ty setite
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> gardenia,  actually i DID get it to run Startopia
[07:21] <snorks> cedega worked once for me, and ih ad like 1 fps in D2
[07:21] <snackalot> it lets you run winblows app in linux
[07:21] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[07:21] <Utopiate> sweet... 1007.000 fps
[07:22] <Utopiate> just needed a reboot...
[07:22] <setite> there you are
[07:22] <setite> now keep trying to beat my 12k
[07:22] <Zeroblitzt> hmm, more troubles with Ubuntu and sound... I'm running hoary and I've been updating my system whenever updates are released. After the latest update, though, Ubuntu doesnt seem to want to start eSound
[07:22] <setite> lemme go again to see my score
[07:22] <Zeroblitzt> so I cant listen to my music
[07:22] <Utopiate> heh...
[07:22] <gardenia> Dr_Willis, I could never get it to even install I dont think..then again I wasn't using latest so...bleh
[07:22] <snorks> is wine free?
[07:22] <Utopiate> wine is free
[07:22] <Zeroblitzt> It's not just XMMS either, because I tried playing music in my other sound players
[07:22] <setite> 12249.200... woot!
[07:22] <snorks> Utopiate: thanks
[07:22] <gardenia> Dr_Willis, omgosh another startopia fan ? ..heh gotta love it
[07:22] <gardenia> Dr_Willis, we should play sometime
[07:22] <Zeroblitzt> so...... any ideas on what could be wrong
[07:23] <hobby> alguine me puede explicar como poner el menu editor en mi linux?
[07:23] <setite> if only i got those in cs sourc
[07:23] <setite> e
[07:23] <setite> shit i would see bullets fly by me...
[07:23] <snackalot> can someone tell me how to get xmms to work
[07:23] <setite> shit i would see the future
[07:23] <Stramash> how do i run java apps?
[07:23] <Utopiate> install java
[07:23] <fredforfaen> i have a 16X dvd-burner and i cant get it to burn over 4x...anyone had the same problem? and BTW i have enabled dma!
[07:24] <Utopiate> Streamash: http://www.java.com - free download
[07:24] <Zeroblitzt> So can anyone help me get sound back in Hoary...?
[07:24] <Stramash> i have installed it
[07:24] <leopard> Stramash: depends on the java apps... but some you can run using the command: java -jar appname.jar
[07:24] <setite> i know a good wiki for cedega on ubuntu
[07:24] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: tried shutting off esd, and using alsa instead? set outputs in apps to alsa
[07:24] <setite> unofficial and a smidgeon dated but it gets the job done
[07:24] <leopard> Stramash: others like Azureus have executable files.
[07:24] <setite> http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:24] <Zeroblitzt> how do I shut down esd?
[07:24] <gardenia> hobby, qu usted significa a editor meny?
[07:25] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: the easy way is
[07:25] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[07:25] <Xorlev> Does anyone know of any reliable IPv6 tunnel brokers? I found a pretty nice one at hexago, and their software worked well, but then the daemon crashes and gets into an inf loop, and sudo killing it just results in locking up that terminal/console.
[07:25] <fredforfaen> pls..
[07:25] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: system -> preferences -> sound
[07:25] <Utopiate> No matter what if I had java installed all I had to do was "./javaapp.jar"
[07:25] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: Enable sound server startup
[07:25] <CookedGryphon> gardenia, smeg?
[07:25] <Utopiate> or just javaapp.jar in a consol
[07:25] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: the soundserver they talk about is esd
[07:25] <gardenia> CookedGryphon, Yeah im wondering
[07:26] <fredforfaen> !scsi
[07:26] <ubotu> fredforfaen: I give up, what is it?
[07:26] <Zeroblitzt> will I need to reboot?
[07:26] <setite> what i love is how games get updated and that breaks them
[07:26] <fredforfaen> !burning
[07:26] <ubotu> fredforfaen: I don't know
[07:26] <fredforfaen> !dvd
[07:26] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[07:26] <setite> guildwars recently updated and no longer works under ubuntu
[07:26] <setite> i mean cedega
[07:26] <snorks> =/
[07:26] <setite> i think thats something they do on purpose
[07:26] <snackalot> what is cedega
[07:27] <setite> haha
[07:27] <willis_> setite,  i doubt that.
[07:27] <gardenia> setite, yes a friend of my got really gent on that one..I do understand as its a kewl game ..oh well thats part of the pain using emulation
[07:27] <Zeroblitzt> snorks -> XMMS still gives me "failed to open Output driver: ALSA x.x.xx"
[07:27] <Stramash> thx leopard :) java -jar did the trick
[07:27] <Utopiate> snackalot: it's wine with the direct x api's.
[07:27] <snorks> there should be some common way to make games for platforms. and then game companies could make the real money based on gamestation games
[07:27] <snackalot> whats so funny
[07:27] <Utopiate> winex = cedega
[07:27] <setite> questions
[07:27] <snorks> Zeroblitzt: hm
[07:27] <gardenia> snackalot, windows games emulation
[07:27] <willis_> of course i never got GW working in cedega that well.
[07:27] <setite> !cedega
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:27] <willis_> snorks,  that would be ugh.. Java? :P
[07:27] <snorks> !wine
[07:28] <snorks> willis_: i mean ps3 xbox360 stuff like that :p
[07:28] <leopard> Stramash: you're welcome, it won't work for everything. Most of the time I start by reading the particular software's README or INSTALL file, but I'm glad it helped this time.
[07:28] <snackalot> it work good
[07:28] <willis_> snorks,  java could do it there also! :p
[07:28] <willis_> lol
[07:28] <snorks> willis_: ok i didnt make myself clear
[07:28] <snorks> willis_: ok my sentence was really crappy
[07:28] <snorks> willis_: i see that now
[07:28] <Stramash> thats what it said in the read me but i tried java-jar without a space lol
[07:28] <willis_> heh heh - or hacked box's and emulators..
[07:28] <leopard> Hey all...I found a sort of eJay-ish program for Linux. Hydrogen is a drum machine. It should do the trick for a short intro.
[07:29] <fredforfaen> can anyone help me?
[07:29] <willis_> of coruse right now im having to convert videos to mp4 format for my PSP... they couldent play other formats.. nooooooo... :P
[07:29] <setite> downloads cedega
[07:30] <CookedGryphon> what features does the free cedega lack?
[07:30] <Zeroblitzt> well this sucks
[07:30] <setite> support
[07:30] <ryan2344> heeey there all,  would anyone be able to provide any insight into remote management of a shared printer (via samba/cups) in Ubuntu? All the cups webadmin stuff is locked down...
[07:30] <setite> and something else i think
[07:30] <Utopiate> mostly point2play CookedGryphon
[07:30] <gardenia> hobby, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183&highlight=smeg : < usted significa esto? ::
[07:30] <Zeroblitzt> Looks like im going to have to reinstall or something
[07:31] <CookedGryphon> Utopiate, is it easy enough to set up tho anyway?
[07:31] <gardenia> hobby,
[07:31] <gardenia>  apesadumbrado dur tan solamente Ihad para encontrarlo...
[07:31] <setite> how do i force arch i forgote
[07:31] <setite> --force-architecture?
[07:31] <Utopiate> What is the base gl screen saver package?
[07:32] <Utopiate> apt-get install xscreensaver-gl?
[07:32] <Jackster> is it easy to install nVidia drivers to Ubuntu 5.04?
[07:32] <linuxlala> I am trying to update my repositories through Synaptic. It's taking forever and I am getting very low download speeds. My connection is alright as I am able to browse at good rates. Is the repo server down maybe?
[07:32] <gardenia> Utopiate, not sure rarely mess with it..you can always search in synaptic or use console with apt-cache search
[07:33] <gardenia> Jackster,very easy..
[07:33] <Jackster> thanx
[07:33] <gardenia> Jackster, you just use synaptic and then issue a simple shell command to enable it..
[07:33] <ompaul> !tell Jackster about nvidia
[07:33] <setite> ahhh i keep forgetting that kget breaks .debs
[07:33] <jpdaigle> Jackster: there's a page on the ubuntu wiki that has step-by-step instructions
[07:33] <Jackster> ok, i got it
[07:34] <Utopiate> make sure you use the configure terminal command jackster: don't edit xorg.conf unles you have to
[07:34] <Utopiate> I had an issue a few mins ago because of that
[07:34] <Zeroblitzt> anyone good with Ubuntu and sound? I really dont feel like reinstalling my entire distro
[07:34] <h0sl3r> LinuxJones: breezy is cool
[07:35] <Utopiate> how can I upgrade or where can I get a breezy iso?
[07:35] <CookedGryphon> Zeroblitzt, i have had a lot of problem with mine, so may have already looked into ure problem,try me
[07:35] <CookedGryphon> Zeroblitzt, i'm not an expert tho, lol far from it
[07:35] <Zeroblitzt> Basically my problem is I recently got an update through Synaptic and now Hoary wont load any of my sound outputs (ALSA, eSounD, OSS)
[07:35] <CookedGryphon> Zeroblitzt, do u kno what it updated, what packages?
[07:36] <LaserLine> Hello - is it possible to right on an NTFS Partition ?
[07:36] <Utopiate> I would try manually restarting the sound servers (i.e. alsa restart)
[07:36] <haja> Is there anyway to configure my additional mouse buttons in Firefox?
[07:36] <Zeroblitzt> No, I dont remember
[07:36] <LaserLine> I have an externel 160 Maxtor OneTouch drive, and wanted to know if it's safe to use it with ubuntu... It's NTFS.
[07:36] <bz0b> hey guys
[07:36] <ompaul> Utopiate, it is still in development (I presume you know what that is) however if you want to find out how to upgrade /msg ubotu upgrade ------ WARNING still in development may work today and should do but it may brake
[07:37] <snackalot> zeroblitz try reinstalling
[07:37] <bz0b> I am finally on breezy, so what do you all recommend me doing, i already uncommented the apt sources, and am upgrading right now, anything else i should do at first
[07:37] <Zeroblitzt> Reinstalling is the last thing I'm going to do
[07:37] <abbot45> Can someone please help me apply the Google Video patch to VLC?
[07:37] <Utopiate> That's what I look for in a linux distro ampaul!
[07:37] <bz0b> !breezy
[07:37] <fblade> how can i activate my on board sd card reader on ubuntu
[07:37] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[07:37] <Utopiate> ompaul*
[07:37] <snackalot> the sond drivers
[07:37] <snackalot> sound
[07:37] <Zeroblitzt> oh
[07:37] <Zeroblitzt> umm
[07:37] <Zeroblitzt> I already tried
[07:37] <Zeroblitzt> through Synaptic anyway
[07:38] <ompaul> Utopiate, yeap?
[07:38] <mpq> how do I use a self-extracting executable?
[07:38] <fblade> how can i activate my on board sd card reader on ubuntu
[07:38] <snackalot> take them out and then reinstall them
[07:38] <LaserLine> I have an externel 160 Maxtor OneTouch drive - USB2, and wanted to know if it's safe to use it with ubuntu... It's NTFS. - Wil it be safe to use it with Ubuntu ?
[07:38] <haja> Is there anyway to configure my additional mouse buttons in Firefox?
[07:38] <CookedGryphon> mpq, cd to the directory and then say ./filename
[07:38] <bz0b> LaserLine, of course, considering it will be read-only
[07:38] <Utopiate> How would I choose a screensaver and run it from the terminal. Using xlockmore
[07:38] <snackalot> lazerline it should be fine
[07:39] <LaserLine> bz0b and not readonly ?
[07:39] <bz0b> LaserLine, its read-only, so you cant mess it up pretty much
[07:39] <snackalot> what is bz0b
[07:39] <bz0b> bz0b is a god!
[07:39] <bluesceada> does ubuntu have amd64 support ?
[07:39] <snackalot> yes
[07:39] <Zeroblitzt> so Cooked, you dont have any advice?
[07:39] <abbot45> Can someone please help me apply the Google Video patch to VLC?
[07:39] <mpq> it didn't work
[07:39] <LaserLine> bz0b - If i plug my Maxtor USB OneTouch drive, it'll automatically be readonly ?
[07:39] <mpq> "permission denied"
[07:39] <bluesceada> ah i used a 5.04 install cd .. so it should be using 64bit now?
[07:40] <bz0b> LaserLine, because it is NTFS partitioned, it will be read-only
[07:40] <bluesceada> :S
[07:40] <CookedGryphon> Zeroblitzt, sorry, but beyond removing the packages and reinstalling them, that might resolve any conflicts
[07:40] <bluesceada> i mean .. it's 64bit compiled
[07:40] <bluesceada> ?
[07:40] <bz0b> yes
[07:40] <bluesceada> okay thx
[07:40] <bz0b> it is even ppc compiled
[07:40] <LaserLine> bz0b That's by definition, or do i have to configure it that way ?
[07:40] <CookedGryphon> mpq try sudogtg
[07:41] <lastpoint> quit
[07:41] <ompaul> bluesceada, not unless you used the 64bit install, and if you do, in order to do some stuff with w32codes you will have to run an chrooted an environment
[07:41] <bz0b> LaserLine, by definition, because ntfs is copyrighted, now if it was fat filesystem, then you could read-write
[07:41] <bz0b> brb guys, gotta reboot to new kernel
[07:41] <bz0b> well, is there a new kernel?
[07:41] <bz0b> for breezy
[07:41] <R3GUL8R> is this a reasonable place to ask for help with ubuntu?
[07:41] <dalamar> you can read/write in linux its just sketchy
[07:42] <R3GUL8R> or do i have to hit the mailing list or elsewhere?
[07:42] <LaserLine> bz0b ohh...ok - will NTFS ever be not read only ?  but FAT sucks on big drives....
[07:42] <[1] neoprobe> Hi all
[07:42] <Arkan> how can you boot ubuntu off the CD in rescue mode? tried 'linux rescue' didnt work..
[07:42] <LaserLine> bz0b FAT32 isn't better either....
[07:42] <bz0b> LaserLine, I didn't say it was better
[07:42] <[1] neoprobe> i need some help about some login problem.. if anyone's willing to help
[07:42] <mpq> argh
[07:42] <setite> damnit where it point2play go
[07:42] <mpq> stupid wireless
[07:42] <mpq> I can't get it to work
[07:42] <neo_> guys I'm a newbie in Linux world....can I ask you a question?
[07:42] <fblade> how can i activate my on board sd card reader on ubuntu
[07:42] <mpq> because I can't find the drivers
[07:42] <LaserLine> bz0b That means dualbooting with ububntu and XP is not that good..... except working in through a network....
[07:42] <R3GUL8R> because i really just want to run in a resolution other than 640x480. i've tried editing xorg.conf, but i am lost.
[07:43] <ompaul> !tell neo_ about ask
[07:43] <bz0b> Is this the newest kernel for breezy? 2.6.12-8-386
[07:43] <Arkan> how can you boot ubuntu off the CD in rescue mode? tried 'linux rescue' didnt work..
[07:43] <LaserLine> bz0b If i download a file with ubuntu, windows can't see it....
[07:43] <bz0b> LaserLine, correct, if you really need the files, just setup a samba server
[07:43] <bz0b> LaserLine, yup
[07:43] <dalamar> !ntfs
[07:43] <ompaul> bz0b, apt-cache search 2.6 might help you there
[07:43] <LaserLine> bz0b Samba server ? it's on the same coputer
[07:43] <neo_> ok, how can I log-in as a root through file browser so that I can make changes in my apt-repositories
[07:44] <R3GUL8R> anyone care to help?
[07:44] <bz0b> LaserLine, well you said it would be better between network, so I suggested the samba way
[07:44] <ompaul> neo_, you do not need to in a terminal you type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:44] <dalamar> !upgrade
[07:44] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:44] <LaserLine> bz0b I use the Hebrew Language... what do i have to add, and where so Ububtu support the Hebrew Language on my EXT3 and ReiserFS and in FAT32 and NTFS Partitions...?
[07:44] <ompaul> !tell neo_ about root
[07:44] <neoprobe> i cant login to ubuntu, even though my password is correct, verified.
[07:45] <R3GUL8R> how do i increase the desktop resolution in ubuntu?
[07:45] <bz0b> LaserLine, are you on breezy or hoary?
[07:45] <LinuxJones> neo_, your password is case sensitive is your caps lock on or something ?
[07:45] <Stramash> i got jdsikreport running - which is neat
[07:45] <neo_> well...whenever I tried to open my source.list its only read only...
[07:45] <neo_> I can't make any changes.
[07:46] <LaserLine> bz0b Hoary on my laptop. and when Breezy comes, I'll have it on my desktop.
[07:46] <ompaul> neo_, I already gave you the answer
[07:46] <bz0b> brb
[07:46] <R3GUL8R> ompaul, don't suppose you have any words of wisdom for me?
[07:46] <ompaul>  neo_    >>>>>  neo_, you do not need to in a terminal you type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:46] <R3GUL8R> :)
[07:46] <neo_> ok...i'll try that.
[07:46] <ompaul> R3GUL8R, change your nick its lousy  :)
[07:46] <neo_> thanks
[07:47] <Oroboros> better?
[07:47] <ompaul> !tell Oroboros about resolution
[07:47] <setite> sob
[07:47] <ompaul> :)
[07:47] <setite> point2play wont make a damn .winex_ver folder
[07:47] <setite> grrrr
[07:47] <ompaul> Oroboros, that link ubotu gave you should be good
[07:48] <xine> hello world
[07:49] <xine> any kernel programmers in the house..?
[07:50] <LinuxJones> xine, try #ubuntu-devel
[07:50] <confrey> hi everybody
[07:50] <ompaul> LinuxJones, may I pm u?
[07:51] <bz0b> wow, this is weird, has anyone ever seen this problem, you go into the visudo, modify it, and now no where on my app menu or even right click do i get a terminal
[07:51] <LinuxJones> ompaul, what's up ?
[07:51] <LaserLine> bz0b I use the Hebrew Language... what do i have to add, and where so Ububtu support the Hebrew Language on my EXT3 and ReiserFS and in FAT32 and NTFS Partitions...?
[07:51] <LinuxJones> ompaul, I have pm's disabled
[07:51] <ompaul> LinuxJones, ahhhh
[07:51] <bz0b> LaserLine, try just mount them
[07:52] <confrey> how can I recover files from cdrom? I have four cdrom, four years old; now gnome see them as blank
[07:52] <confrey> I can't mount it
[07:52] <setite> anyone know where the damn file is to change over the libs for p2p
[07:52] <LaserLine> I get that it has unrecognized characters...
[07:53] <ompaul> LinuxJones,  This is a question, not a statement, I am not sure what I think myself but fwiw, should the cadega stuff be done in #ubuntu-gaming?
[07:53] <neo_> Ompaul...when I typed the necessary address in the sources.list (terminal) how can I save it?
[07:53] <bz0b> Can anyone tell me why this would do this right after i do an apt-get upgrade and reboot
[07:53] <bz0b> or is it because I modified the visudo
[07:54] <ompaul> neo_, down in the bottom of the screen what does it say for 'Write out' ? then exit :)
[07:54] <SuperTails92> What package contains esddsp?
[07:54] <LinuxJones> ompaul, I would suspect that would be the best place
[07:54] <LaserLine> bz0b any idea ? I found in some forums that i need to add the char-set but i don't understand how...
[07:54] <neo_> ok..
[07:54] <neo_> thanks again.
[07:55] <Utopiate> SuperTails92: sudo apt-cache search esddep
[07:55] <ompaul> neo_, np keep learning :)
[07:55] <bz0b> LaserLine, Sorry not too sure to be honest
[07:55] <Utopiate> SuperTails92: *sudo apt-cache search esddsp
[07:55] <ompaul> Utopiate, sudo not needed for cache :)
[07:55] <bz0b> Can someone tell me why there would be no terminal icon anywhere
[07:55] <LaserLine> bz0b thanks.
[07:55] <SuperTails92> No output...
[07:56] <Utopiate> in what WM bz0b?
[07:56] <M-ilaNL> Who knows how to install ubuntu on a RAID 0 array? It recognises 2 disks :S
[07:56] <ksmurf> is there a way to "convert" a drive from fat32 (with data) to another and save the data?
[07:56] <bz0b> Utopiate, GDM
[07:57] <bz0b> Its just nowhere to be found
[07:57] <Utopiate> the gdm service or gnome?
[07:57] <Leonik> how do i know what version of glibc i have?
[07:57] <randabis> martian men are coming to earth
[07:57] <randabis> martian men are abducting the jerks
[07:57] <randabis> martian men are coming to earth
[07:57] <randabis> martian men don't take me
[07:58] <ompaul> randabis, stop please
[07:58] <lundner> does anybody know a good prog for setting up a irc-server?
[07:58] <ksmurf> leonik either look at synapic or (I'm not sure of the command)
[07:58] <bz0b> lundner, UnrealIRCd
[07:58] <Leonik> yeaa i thought i was something like that
[07:58] <randabis> ompaul: posted in wrong chan sorry
[07:58] <LaserLine> bz0b I found this document, I think you'll like it - it's about NTFS and charset and comparison with linux, FAT etc...
[07:58] <LaserLine> bz0b http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs.html
[07:58] <ompaul> randabis, :)
[07:58] <petykoo> hi
[07:59] <petykoo> can i update from deb sid to breezy ?
[07:59] <ksmurf> is there a way to "convert" a drive from fat32 (with data) to another and save the data?  I just don't want to transfer 80 gb to dvd's
[07:59] <_SWAT_> is there a way to set the font size in the xorg.conf file? (for usage for dual-screen setup) My 2nd monitor font is a bit screwed up (other font size)
[07:59] <Leonik> what would the command be... apt-get install glibc?
[07:59] <Leonik> or do i nee to do a apt-cache
[08:00] <ksmurf> swat can you post your xorg.conf file at pastebin?
[08:00] <lundner> does anybody know a good prog for setting up a irc-server?
[08:00] <ompaul> petykoo, you could chance it, it was said in the days of hoary that some had tried and some failed and some had success
[08:00] <Sashi> hey
[08:00] <Leonik> see id love to use synaptic... but i only have a server installation
[08:00] <Leonik> :(
[08:00] <petykoo> i fear of it because warty-sid upgrade failed
[08:00] <Sashi> how do you make it so that everytime you open a folder it opens in a new window
[08:01] <ksmurf> oh..... one sec
[08:01] <rendell> guys, is there a software(free) that i can use so my windows application will run on linux?
[08:01] <Sashi> wine?
[08:01] <dalamar> wine
[08:01] <Sashi> ha i beat you
[08:01] <Sashi> lol
[08:01] <bz0b> ha, I beat all of you!
[08:01] <bz0b> :P
[08:01] <rendell> how will i install that?  i'm a totall newbie.
[08:01] <_SWAT_> ksmurf, http://pastebin.com/360771
[08:02] <Sashi> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:02] <bz0b> rendell, might want to read some guides, ubuntuguide.org to start would be nice
[08:02] <Sashi> okie neways
[08:02] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[08:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:02] <Sashi> so how do i make it like that?
[08:02] <Sashi> !faq
[08:02] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[08:02] <bz0b> as ubotu says, rumors have it!
[08:02] <Sashi> w/e
[08:03] <Sashi> i used the ubunutguide.org
[08:03] <Sashi> w/e
[08:03] <setite> stupid p2p
[08:03] <Sashi> i dont care
[08:03] <Sashi> neways so how do i make my folders do that yo?
[08:03] <ompaul> !tell Sashi about synaptic
[08:03] <ompaul> !tell Sashi about repos
[08:03] <Sashi> huh?
[08:03] <Sashi> i dont need to know that
[08:03] <rendell> heres what it saysReading package lists... Done
[08:03] <rendell> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:03] <rendell> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:03] <rendell> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:03] <rendell> is only available from another source
[08:03] <rendell> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:03] <rendell> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net hoary-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_dists_hoary-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:03] <bz0b> how do I get my freaking terminal, i dont have one in my system tools or when i right click!
[08:03] <rendell> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:03] <rendell> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:03] <rendell> rendell@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[08:03] <bz0b> rendell, STOP PASTING!
[08:03] <ompaul> back soon :)
[08:03] <rendell> Reading package lists... Done
[08:03] <Sashi> erm ompaul
[08:03] <rendell> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:03] <dalamar> they should set !upgrade to work with breezy
[08:03] <rendell> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:04] <LaserLine> Founf the answer, on that website - add this to the FSTAB, assuing /dev/hda1 is the parrtition and we already made a directory for windows partition... mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o iocharset=iso8859-8
[08:04] <rendell> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:04] <rendell> is only available from another source
[08:04] <rendell> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:04] <setite> boot!!!!
[08:04] <rendell> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net hoary-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_dists_hoary-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:04] <Sashi> AHHH
[08:04] <rendell> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:04] <rendell> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:04] <Sashi> rendell, stop posing!
[08:04] <rendell> sorry
[08:04] <bz0b> that is it i am rooting his box!
[08:04] <Sashi> posting*
[08:04] <bz0b> hehe
[08:04] <Sashi> erm neways
[08:04] <Sashi> some one help me
[08:04] <usrx> does anyone know where i might find a log file for kynaptic (kubuntu)?
[08:04] <rendell> where can i get debian package?
[08:04] <Sashi> is it in system prefernece or soemthing
[08:04] <bz0b> I think I was here first, can someone help me
[08:04] <bz0b> hehe
[08:04] <bz0b> kl
[08:04] <bz0b> jk*
[08:04] <Sashi> lol ok whats the prob
[08:05] <Arkan> Anyone know how to config VNC to load Gnome when I connect remotely?
[08:05] <bz0b> I dont get a freaking terminal anywere
[08:05] <bz0b> except when i ctrl alt f1
[08:05] <Sashi> huh?
[08:05] <Sashi> you in X?
[08:05] <bz0b> yes, gnome
[08:05] <setite> how do i uninstall packages
[08:05] <Sashi> so if you do ctrl atl blah
[08:05] <Sashi> you get a term?
[08:06] <Sashi> so you dont get a term from apps > system ....
[08:06] <bz0b> well it brings me into single user mode
[08:06] <bz0b> nope
[08:06] <Arkan> Anyone know how to config VNC to load Gnome when I connect remotely?
[08:06] <LaserLine> Is it possible to use 2 charset with an NTFS Partition after beeing mounted ? (utf8 and iso8859-8) ?
[08:06] <bz0b> Arkan, yes, you need to modify the ~/.vnc/xstartup, comment everything out and at the bottom line put gnome-session &
[08:06] <zalbor> I erased the user I created when installing, and now other users have no privileges... Can anyone help with this?
[08:07] <_SWAT_> ksmurf, my problem is that my font size (like in consoles/file managers) is different on my 2nd monitor. (on my 1st it's OK)
[08:07] <rendell> is there a debian package of WINE?
[08:07] <bz0b> rendell, yes
[08:07] <rendell> where can i get that?
[08:07] <bz0b> rendell, go to terminal, and type this in exactly, ok?
[08:07] <rendell> k
[08:07] <bz0b> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:07] <XsupremeX> Is anyone familiar with the Live Ununtu CD??
[08:07] <xophEr> at boot: Local filesystems failed to mount; I compiled a kernel (latest kernel.org) using the config from the ubuntu stock kernel, What could be the problem?
[08:08] <bz0b> rendell, then type in sudo rm -fr /
[08:08] <bz0b> rendell, i was kidding about the second one
[08:08] <zalbor> rendel: don't do that
[08:08] <sheer-terror> hi
[08:08] <XsupremeX> ehmm
[08:09] <XsupremeX> so is anyone here familiar with the Live CD of Ununtu?
[08:09] <zalbor> XsupremeX: What exactly do you need? I think everyone's familliar with it at least a little
[08:09] <rendell> it says "package not available"
[08:09] <XsupremeX> well
[08:09] <XsupremeX> i left the cd in my drive
[08:09] <XsupremeX> and i restarted my computer
[08:09] <XsupremeX> and im still in windows XP
[08:09] <bz0b> rendell, did you modify your apt sources
[08:09] <Arkan> bz0b, I dont have xstartup in my ~/.vnc/ dir
[08:09] <XsupremeX> and thats all it said to do...
[08:10] <zalbor> You need to make it boot from CD
[08:10] <XsupremeX> how do i do that?
[08:10] <zalbor> Does it say to press F8 or something like that when you turn the computer on?
[08:10] <bz0b> Arkan, no, you do it on the computer you are going to connect to
[08:10] <XsupremeX> No it didnt say anything
[08:10] <XsupremeX> want the exact words?
[08:10] <_SWAT_> how do I start the 'vnc' server that usually starts with ubuntu (gnome) ? (I'm in fluxbox now)
[08:10] <rendell> i dont know? how will i know that? (sorry i'm a total newbie)
[08:10] <zalbor> I mean the computer
[08:10] <Determinist> any idea when those neat transparency manager and things would find their way into xorg.conf?
[08:10] <zalbor> The first screen when you turn it on
[08:10] <XsupremeX> nope....
[08:11] <XsupremeX> i dont think anyways
[08:11] <bz0b> rendell, go read the ubuntu guide, ok?
[08:11] <XsupremeX> i could try again....
[08:11] <zalbor> It surely says to press DEL at some point
[08:11] <bz0b> rendell, ubuntuguide.org
[08:11] <Arkan> bz0b, Yeah, on the pc im connecting to I dont have xstartup
[08:11] <Sashi> so anyone help
[08:11] <zalbor> With DEL, you can go in the bios settings.
[08:11] <Sashi>  how do you make it so that everytime you open a folder it opens in a new window
[08:11] <bz0b> Arkan, well, what vnc server does it have?
[08:11] <ksmurf> have u refessed your font cache?
[08:11] <zalbor> Find the list of bootable media there and move the CD to the top
[08:11] <rendell> ok, thanks anyway. will be back.
[08:11] <fblade> hey i asked about sorting my sound out ealier in games and found it was cus i had esd enabled but now i have it disabled and used another sound system now gaim dosnt have sound any ideas y
[08:11] <zalbor> XsupremeX: Did you get all that?
[08:12] <bz0b> wow, my terminal was in accessories
[08:12] <XsupremeX> the bios settings?
[08:12] <XsupremeX> hmm
[08:12] <XsupremeX> alright so when i restart
[08:12] <XsupremeX> it should say umm
[08:12] <XsupremeX> press delete?
[08:12] <zalbor> Yes
[08:13] <zalbor> If it says to press F8, it's much easier
[08:13] <Arkan> bz0b, vncserver 3.3.7-7
[08:13] <XsupremeX> ok
[08:13] <rendell> does anyone know where can i get a linuxant license?
[08:13] <XsupremeX> then umm ill brb
[08:13] <zalbor> Good luck
[08:13] <bz0b> Arkan, sorry, then I don't know
[08:14] <fblade> i cant set up sound to work with my desktop, and games it's either one or the other y?
[08:14] <Arkan> bz0b, Is there another version I could use, tighvnc?
[08:14] <bz0b> Arkan, I like tightvnc my self
[08:14] <benplaut> Sashi: in nautilus?
[08:14] <bz0b> Arkan, I believe real vnc has the xstartup file
[08:15] <Arkan> bz0b, Where can I get that?
[08:15] <bz0b> Arkan, google
[08:15] <_SWAT_> ksmurf, did you have time to take a look at my xorg.conf ?
[08:16] <ompaul> redtech,  linuxant license http://tinyurl.com/39rg5 (first answer from google then tinyurled :))
[08:16] <Arkan> bz0b, Cant get it through synaptic
[08:16] <bz0b> Arkan, maybe, but brb
[08:17] <ompaul> rendell,  linuxant license http://tinyurl.com/39rg5 (first answer from google then tinyurled :))
[08:17] <ompaul> redtech, sorry - not for you :)
[08:17] <Jackster> hey guys, i wanna play ScummVM on this machine, so I downloaded the .deb file, since ubuntu is based on debiam, but i dunno wot to do with it, anyone got any hints?
[08:17] <dalamar> dpkg -i yourmagicfile.deb
[08:17] <ompaul> Jackster, first do not use Debian debs on ubuntu
[08:18] <zalbor> Jackster: Don't use debian files
[08:18] <Jackster> wot sorta file should I use then?
[08:18] <ompaul> Jackster, second if it not a .deb for ubuntu then get the source
[08:18] <funkyHat> does the group 'admin' have any other rights apart from sudo?
[08:18] <dalamar> ive never had problems with them
[08:18] <zalbor> Jackster: Add the universe repositores and get it with synaptic
[08:18] <ompaul> dalamar, and lots of people have had, you have been lucky
[08:18] <Arkan> Anyone know where I can get RealVNC for Ubuntu?
[08:18] <Jackster> errrr, ok, that went over the top o my head
[08:18] <Jackster> sorry
[08:19] <zalbor> Jackster: System>Administration>Synaptic
[08:19] <funkyHat> Arkan, there is a built in VNC client and server for ubuntu
[08:19] <zalbor> Can you find this?
[08:19] <Jackster> ok
[08:19] <funkyHat> zalbor, Jackster:
[08:19] <funkyHat> !repositories
[08:19] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:20] <setite> damnit
[08:20] <ompaul> Jackster, this  ScummVM is available from the following repository http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[08:20] <setite> steam broke a few days ago anyway this is futile
[08:20] <fblade> help me guys  esd only works with my desktop and gaim, but in games the sound dont work so i change it to alts and that dont allow sound in gaim or anything
[08:20] <Arkan> funkyHat, How do I get it to load initiate Gnome? there is no xstartup to specify
[08:20] <Vertical69> does anyone know where i can get a repository for limewire
[08:21] <setite> you might just wanna get the tarball and build it
[08:21] <setite> ok all im beat.. sleep time
[08:21] <bz0b> does anyone know what the command to install the ati drivers via apt-get?
[08:21] <ompaul> !tell Vertical69 about limewire
[08:21] <Jackster> ompaul: thanks for that!
[08:21] <ompaul> Jackster, read about repos first
[08:21] <bz0b> !tell bz0b about ati
[08:22] <ompaul> !tell Jackster about repos
[08:22] <iwantmygamesback> bye all
[08:22] <raf> Hello, may I ask if it's possible to install the new beta firefox from the from the ubuntu repositories?
[08:22] <ompaul> !tell Jackster about synaptic
[08:22] <Arkan> funkyHat, How do I get it to load initiate Gnome? there is no xstartup to specify
[08:23] <Syntax> How can I completely remove CPU Frequency Scaling?
[08:23] <ompaul> raf, not that I am aware of
[08:23] <rendell> linuxant licence please.
[08:23] <zalbor> Can someone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64583
[08:23] <ompaul> rendell, I told you already
[08:23] <ompaul> rendell, >>>>>   rendell,  linuxant license http://tinyurl.com/39rg5 (first answer from google then tinyurled :))
[08:24] <rendell> is there a free one?
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> Syntax : its in the kernel..
[08:25] <ompaul> raf, when you move away from having supported software you end up with software you need to support yourself, the reason for tracking a distro is simple, it is to work with knowns and where there are many eyes, if you change 1 or 100 packages you really are not running the distro any more :)
[08:25] <ompaul> rendell, that is their licence, you would have to find that out using google and so on :)
[08:25] <Almindor> why is there no /etc/ld.so.conf in breezy?
[08:27] <raphaelpereira> hello
[08:27] <ompaul> Almindor, run updatedb and see if it lives elsewhere
[08:27] <raf> thanks, ompaul. I guess I'll just stick to the current version. :) thanks again.
[08:27] <Almindor> nope
[08:27] <Almindor> ompaul, nowhere to be found
[08:27] <raphaelpereira> My Inkscape doesn't seem to have pixel units
[08:27] <funkyHat> anyone that's been around and chatted with me, would you say breezy is stable enough for me to cope with fixing any issues i have?
[08:27] <raphaelpereira> does anyone knwon anything about this?
[08:27] <ompaul> Almindor, no idea atm will find out later converting two boxes here atm
[08:28] <Jemt> funkyHat: I installed it earlier today but switched back to Hoary. I didn't really expirence any problems, I just don't like beta ware for my servers :)
[08:29] <funkyHat> Jemt, cool :)
[08:29] <funkyHat> but that wasn't my question ;)
[08:29] <Toba> !tell me about sound
[08:29] <funkyHat> Toba, /msg ubotu sound
[08:29] <Toba> funkyHat: thanks for the tip.
[08:29] <funkyHat> :)
[08:30] <Toba> privmsg #ubuntu :!tell me about _ == privmsg ubotu _ eh?
[08:30] <Arkan> funkyHat, did you get my reply?
[08:30] <zalbor> Can someone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64583
[08:31] <funkyHat> yeah, i did Arkan, sorry, i don't know, when i've used VNC i've never had that problem
[08:31] <raphaelpereira> i have Hibernation working flawless on AMD Duron
[08:31] <funkyHat> is there a breezy-backports and breezy-extras?
[08:31] <Cryptid> Can any one recommend a site where i can learn all the Terminal commands and its uses
[08:31] <raphaelpereira> on Hoary
[08:31] <funkyHat> Cryptid, google rute
[08:32] <blastradius> hi people
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> zalbor,  so you made a 2nd user.. and deleted the first user that had all the 'su' access features eh?
[08:32] <messju> hi, is there some simple video editing software for ubuntu?
[08:32] <Cryptid> FunkyHat what should my search phrase be
[08:32] <funkyHat> rute
[08:32] <zalbor> Dr_Willis: Yes, that was stupid, huh?
[08:32] <funkyHat> ;)
[08:33] <blastradius> ok, KDE or Gnome??
[08:33] <raphaelpereira> Cryptid, if you know portuguese, i recomend focalinux
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> zalbor,  you can  boot to single user mode I THINK and set up a root password.
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> but to give that 2nd user the su features.. not sure what file ya edit for that.
[08:33] <funkyHat> Dr_Willis, that's easy
[08:34] <funkyHat> zalbor, boot to single user mode, and add the new user to the group 'admin'
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> funkyHat,  yea - i recall its easy.. but cant rember how :P
[08:34] <kurt_king> Total newbie in Live installed RealPlayer 10 as plugin to Firefox.  It's the default to play a Real radio stream, but the status just says Done.  No music but there are other generated sounds (wavs?).  Any ideas.  Thanks in advance.
[08:34] <funkyHat> Dr_Willis, sudo access is managed so that members of 'admin' can sudo :)
[08:34] <zalbor> funkyHat: By "single user mode" do you mean ctrl+alt+F1?
[08:34] <theeil> i followed the LAMP install guide on wiki.ubuntu, but when i try to run a php app, it just downloads
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> linux single
[08:34] <erUSUL> zalbor, edit /etc/sudoers and add will to it.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> as a grub boot option
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> reboot, at grub menu. use 'e' to edit the line,, append 'single' to the end. and boot it.
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> i THINk. :P
[08:35] <ompaul> zalbor, no it is a mode where the machine is mostly disabled - press esc when the machine is booting and then you get a couple of options choose rescue
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> there a rescue grub entry? lol. I must of never noticed that. :P
[08:35] <CookedGryphon> of u can go into single user mode by doing shutdown now
[08:35] <CookedGryphon> or*
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> if u have a root password , dunno if u can without that
[08:36] <funkyHat> yeah, which you can't do without superuser access ;)
[08:36] <zalbor> So I log in with rescue mode, and add "will" to the admin group?
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> who wants to do it? do they have sudo access at all?
[08:37] <CookedGryphon> cos u can jstu do sudo passwd, i did, it makes things so much easier
[08:37] <Cryptid> do all debian softwares work on Ubuntu?
[08:37] <x-pert> how can i put the encryption off?
[08:37] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, no, they don't have sudo access, that's the problem
[08:37] <x-pert> anyone can help me?!??!?!
[08:37] <CookedGryphon> ooh, surely if its secure then u shouldn't b able to GET sudo access
[08:38] <funkyHat> x-pert, what do you mean?
[08:38] <Toba> Is there anyone here who can explain why some apps make sound properly and some fucking don't?
[08:38] <Toba> /usr/bin/speaker-test is silent
[08:38] <zalbor> I tried rescue mode, and the prompt was root@ubuntu...
[08:38] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, it's secure, unless you're sitting in front of the machine and know what you're doing
[08:38] <The> ee+ee+
[08:38] <Toba> but I hear sounds when I click menus/play tetris etc
[08:38] <Toba> this doesn't make any sense
[08:38] <Toba> are they using different mixers or something?
[08:38] <plagerism> Whats a simple efficient way to backup a system to multiple dvds??
[08:38] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, you can disable rescue mode if you're paranoid
[08:38] <Toba> and if so, how can I change that?
[08:38] <Cryptid> do all debian softwares work on Ubuntu?i mean the .deb files
[08:38] <Toba> the wiki page is not helpful
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> zalbor,  you are in then. :P ya got a shell right? can tyope stuff?
[08:39] <CookedGryphon> Toba, yeah they use different mixers, try plauying with system, preferences, multimedia
[08:39] <Toba> thank you
[08:39] <zalbor> Dr_Willis: No, I'm not in. I tried rescue earlier
[08:39] <x-pert> funkyhat i cant setup correctly a network
[08:39] <x-pert> wireless network
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> you just said you had a root shell.
[08:39] <x-pert> so ill try without encryption
[08:39] <Arkan> funkyHat, I got xstartup, what do i enter to start a gnome session?
[08:39] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, he doesn't need to do that, his system sound are working
[08:39] <funkyHat> gdm
[08:39] <zalbor> Dr_Willis: I did, when I tried it earlier
[08:39] <funkyHat> Arkan, gdm
[08:40] <zalbor> But I didn't know what to do at the time
[08:40] <Toba> "failed to connect test pipeline to alsa"
[08:40] <Toba> I wish OTHER apps would tell me that my mixer is just fucking NOT WORKING AT ALL
[08:40] <x-pert> how can i turn the encryption off?
[08:40] <CookedGryphon> Toba, i got that once, it jstu worked after a reboot
[08:40] <Toba> did you load modules and stuff?
[08:40] <Toba> or did you use default
[08:40] <CookedGryphon> Toba, calm down, language! this is a family forum
[08:40] <Toba> sorry ;(
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> zalbor,  then set that user to be in the grup admin.  or set up a root password "passwd" command
[08:41] <funkyHat> Toba, the reason you're having problems is that esd, the sound daemon that ubuntu uses, locks the soundcard so no other applications can use it, in order to free it up, type in a terminal killall esd
[08:41] <zalbor> Can someone remind me what the command is to add a user to a group?
[08:41] <funkyHat> Toba, then try testing the alsa sink again
[08:41] <CookedGryphon> Toba i just rebooted and it worked, i also set my other apps to use different mixers, like beep-media to use esound instead of alsa
[08:41] <Toba> just I have had this problem for weeks and until now nobody answered on here
[08:41] <Arkan> funkyHat, like so: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2090
[08:41] <Toba> kill esd eh
[08:41] <CookedGryphon> !alsa
[08:41] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:41] <Toba> thanks a lot
[08:41] <Toba> I now hear things!
[08:42] <funkyHat> ooh, Arkan, :S i don't know, no idea about that file, sorry
[08:42] <zalbor> Dr_Willis: Can you remind me what's the command to add a user to a group?
[08:43] <livingc> can i download a browser that will have a working java 1.4 on it?
[08:43] <plagerism> Whats a simple efficient way to backup a system to multiple dvds??
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> zalbor,  no idea off hand.. groups are one of the things ive rarely messed wiuth
[08:43] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know when/if the new gaim will be included in the repositories, if not y not?
[08:43] <zalbor> Is it adduser username groupname ?
[08:43] <Cryptid> Dr_Willis need ur help, when ever i download a theme and install it only the look of the windows changes and the icons and desktop background dont change atall what do i do?
[08:43] <zalbor> I think that's it... I'll try
[08:43] <livingc> use nero for the backup of dvds
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  I rarely use themes. :P no idea.. could be the theme is messed uop
[08:43] <x-pert> how can i put the config of iwconfig and those things like it was
[08:43] <zalbor> Dr_Willis: funkyHat: Thanks, I'll be back
[08:43] <x-pert> i want to take the encryption and those things
[08:43] <funkyHat> Cryptid, you need to get separate themes for icons. and you can change the background image yourself
[08:44] <x-pert> cause i couldnt install it with wep encryption
[08:44] <plagerism> CookedCryphon, you mean 1.5.0??   its already in breezy badger
[08:44] <CookedGryphon> oh bugger it, i'm gna downlaod the new gaim from the site and install it, 4get ure packages system
[08:44] <CookedGryphon> yeah but i'm not
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Oh yea.. i rember what funkyHat  is talking about..  Themes in gnome are not the same as in windows. :P
[08:44] <plagerism> CookedGryphon, you mean 1.5.0??   its already in breezy badger
[08:44] <funkyHat> Cryptid, sometimes themes include icon sets, but often they don't. you can make your own themes out of combinations of window themes, controls themes, and icons themes
[08:44] <CookedGryphon> plagerism, that's as may be but i'm not in breezy yet, and won't b till i get to uni and can eat up their bandwidth
[08:45] <livingc> i cant get any pages that need to open a java applet. any ideas?
[08:45] <CookedGryphon> u have to think of us ppl with 2kb/s internet connections
[08:45] <livingc> i cant get any pages that need to open a java applet. any ideas?
[08:45] <CookedGryphon> !java
[08:45] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:45] <livingc> thanks!!
[08:45] <Cryptid> FunkyHat, alright from now on i will download themes that come with everything in it, can u recommend a good site for getting themes
[08:45] <funkyHat> hmm...
[08:46] <funkyHat> !themes
[08:46] <ubotu> somebody said themes was at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[08:46] <x-pert> funkyhat how can i reset the iwcconfig?
[08:46] <x-pert> i reset the ifconfig by ifconfig wlan0 down
[08:46] <funkyHat> sorry x-pert i don't know anything about wireless networks, i'm all wired here
[08:46] <x-pert> lol
[08:46] <x-pert> ok
[08:46] <x-pert> tkz anyway
[08:47] <MrDD> how do I get VNC to default to a gnome session?
[08:49] <Masura> What is VNC?
[08:49] <Arnold84> i am trying to compile intels acpi tool, but i get an error!
[08:50] <Arnold84> cc -Wall -O2 -Wstrict-prototypes -D_LINUX -DACPI_ASL_COMPILER -I../include    -c -o aslcompilerlex.o aslcompilerlex.c
[08:50] <Arnold84> aslcompiler.l: I funktionen 'comment':
[08:50] <Arnold84> aslcompiler.l:847: error: `yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:50] <Arnold84> aslcompiler.l:847: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[08:50] <Arnold84> aslcompiler.l:847: error: for each function it appears in.)
[08:50] <Arnold84> make: *** [aslcompilerlex.o]  Fejl 1
[08:50] <funkyHat> Arnold84, please don't paste in here
[08:50] <Arnold84> what do i need?
[08:50] <Arnold84> upps sorry!!
[08:50] <kemik> Masura:  try that exact line but on www.google.com and it'll tell you :)
[08:50] <kemik> !pastebin
[08:50] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  vnc has a great manuy config files and variants. it depends on what vncserver you are using (tightvnc, vnc4, or the original) - best bet ive done is actually LOOK and read the 'vncserver' script and see what configs its looking for. and where.
[08:51] <Zalbor> Yes, it worked! Thanks a lot!
[08:51] <daveb_> Is there away to change permissions on all the files in a given folder and it's subdirectories?
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  the old-way it used to work was it would run whatever was in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[08:51] <ompaul> Zalbor, what worked?
[08:51] <funkyHat> daveb_, chmod -r
[08:51] <twibbler> so if I want to novigate round my PDA using synCE do I firtly have to install the linux driver ?.....
[08:51] <Masura> kemik, ok :)
[08:51] <daveb_> And this will affect all files in the directory and it's subdirectories?
[08:52] <MrDD> Dr_Willis, Yeah I am editing the XStartup, but im not sure what to put for GNome, I know for KDE its 'startkde'..
[08:52] <Zalbor> Booted with "recovery mode" (which has the "single" option) and ran the command adduser "will" admin
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> 'gnome-session'
[08:52] <Cryptid> My Ubuntu Has Netcat preinstall in it but how do i access it, PLZ tell me
[08:52] <chapeaurouge> how can i change the picture when xlock has the screen locked up?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  also you proberly do NOT want to start a vnc session ruinning gnome - IF you are also running gnome as the same user locally. Ie: you will have 2 gnome sessions ruinning as the same user.
[08:52] <cusco> how do I see in what repo is XX package?
[08:52] <HappyFool> it's chmod -R for recursive application, fwiw
[08:52] <lsuactiafner> xrefresh chapeaurouge
[08:53] <Arnold84> Google aint my friend!
[08:53] <chapeaurouge> sorry...
[08:53] <chapeaurouge> you said?
[08:53] <HappyFool> cusco: apt-cache policy XX will tell you (more or less)
[08:53] <kemik> Arnold84:  it's a powerful one if you use it correctyl
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> chapeaurouge : xrefresh or control alt backspace will completely restart x
[08:53] <kemik> *spelling*
[08:53] <Zalbor> Thanks to those who helped, or tried.
[08:54] <raphaelpereira> Does anyone wants Hibernation to work on AMD Duron?
[08:54] <HappyFool> Cryptid: it's a command-line app; try 'nc -h' for help
[08:54] <MrDD> Dr_Willis, Thats fine, file should be like so: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2092 ?
[08:54] <chapeaurouge> lsuactiafner, no i mean... i dont like the way it looks. i want to change the picture whenever it prompt for my passwd to unlock the screen.
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> oh
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> no idea
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> i use blackbox and no gdm
[08:54] <chapeaurouge> i looked in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver, but nothing in there i could see..
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  you diont want the & at the end of gnome-session I think
[08:54] <HappyFool> the desire to alter the most minor and cosmetic things never fails to amaze me
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> HappyFool,  i agree
[08:55] <Arnold84> i know vut not in that case!
[08:55] <chapeaurouge> well, i liked the one in hoary ok.. but the one in breezy is pushing a bit..
[08:55] <MrDD> Dr_Willis, Ok If i just kill vnc and restart it should start gnome, no other conf to do?
[08:55] <bruno> how can i install cedega on ubuntu ?
[08:55] <daveb_> After trying that I now get Permission denied if I even try a simple ls. What did that just do?
[08:55] <chapeaurouge> it's not that i dont like seeing jdub in the bg, but hey ;)
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  you need to use the 'vncserver -kill :#' command - dont just Kill the vnc process
[08:56] <bruno> i try but the message says i need a newer libc6
[08:56] <Plazma> is there really a lot of difference between debian and ubuntu othert han ubuntu uses newer packages say like xorg and stuff?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Plazma,  lots of little polished tweaks and nudges. :P
[08:56] <beniamino> what's the current status of the sun-j2*1.5 packages? they've been gone for a long time...
[08:56] <grogoreo> hi
[08:57] <DaMi3n> i just replaced my sources.list file and upgraded from hoary to breezy
[08:57] <Plazma> dr_willies.. yea? is ubuntu like a modernized version of debian?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Plazma,  yes.
[08:57] <grogoreo> in the gnome terminal, how can you change the set size of it? at the moment its 80x24 I want like 100x24
[08:57] <DaMi3n> but not all packages have been upgraded.. why uis tha
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> the wiki/forums will have lots of detils on this Plazma
[08:57] <Plazma> dr_willies, i have debian sid on a box and it runs pretty good, was thinking of maybe switching to ubuntu.. its just a test box anyway
[08:58] <MrDD> Dr_Willis, Im still getting that awful session, no gnome :-(
[08:58] <bruno> Dr_wiliis do you know hot to install cedega on ubuntu 5.04 ?
[08:58] <solidgroove> i need to add modprobe ndiswrapper and iwconfig commands to something for boot, what can I add it too?
[08:58] <DaMi3n> i just replaced my sources.list file and upgraded from hoary to breezy..but not all packages have been upgraded.. how do i get them upgraded as well??
[08:58] <HappyFool> grogoreo: Edit -> Current Profile, deselect 'Use the system terminal font' and choose a different font
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> MrDD,  read the vncserver script - it may be looking sleseare first.
[08:59] <HappyFool> grogoreo: or just ctrl-+
[08:59] <winner> hey
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> bruno,  i just followed the directions at the cedga homepage.. actually all ya need to do is isntall the Point2Play stuff, and run it. then let It install the lastest cedega
[08:59] <winner> does anyone know why msttcorefonts doesn't install with apt-get?
[09:00] <beniamino> what's the #ubuntu bot called?
[09:00] <HappyFool> beniamino: ubotu
[09:00] <beniamino> thanks
[09:00] <HappyFool> winner: what error do you get?
[09:01] <bruno> Dr_Willis: where did u install the .deb ?
[09:01] <winner> HappyFool: hold up let me reproduce it
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> bruno,  that question makes no sence. :P it installs where it needs to go
[09:01] <grogoreo> HappyFool, I want to keep the font size the same. Just the width of the terminal
[09:01] <HappyFool> winner: don't paste here -- use the pastebin
[09:01] <HappyFool> grogoreo: ah
[09:01] <winner> ahh. what's the pastebin?
[09:01] <beniamino> ubotu, tell beniamino about java
[09:01] <grogoreo> HappyFool, I can do it manually by pulling the right side of the window
[09:01] <HappyFool> grogoreo: drag it to make it bigger?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> with that command..  hmm a .deb is for debian.. dosent this disrto use the others...
[09:02] <Cryptid> is command line and terminal one and the same
[09:02] <grogoreo> HappyFool, I have to do it every time
[09:02] <bruno> how can i run pont2play ?
[09:02] <HappyFool> grogoreo: oh. hmm.
[09:02] <grogoreo> HappyFool, I just wanted to change the default width
[09:02] <bruno> DR_willis
[09:02] <josh43> Hihi
[09:02] <bruno> : sorry where did u got the .deb ?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> bruno,   ugh.. time to read their isntall docs i think the command is p2p or similer.. and it puts an icon in the menus..
[09:02] <Cryptid> ok got it dont answer it
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> work time for me.. byeeee
[09:02] <josh43> Can anyone tell me how to get PyQT into ubuntu? I can't find it in the respoitories
[09:03] <HappyFool> josh43: maybe python-qt3 ?
[09:03] <winner> HappyFool: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/360821
[09:03] <HappyFool> grogoreo: how about gnome-terminal --geometry=800x600
[09:04] <HappyFool> grogoreo: to be honest i'm not sure what those parameters are in units of, but you can play with it
[09:04] <josh43> HappyFool; Perfect, that looks like it, Thanks :)
[09:04] <bruno> i need help
[09:04] <bruno> can u guys help me ?
[09:04] <grogoreo> HappyFool, WOW! Your amazing! It worked. I'll just change the command that loads the default terminal!
[09:05] <HappyFool> winner: hmm. have you enabled the 'multiverse' repository?
[09:05] <grogoreo> HappyFool, thanks
[09:05] <HappyFool> grogoreo: np ;)
[09:05] <winner> HappyFool: how do i do so?
[09:05] <snausages> how do i update gaim to 1.5? it doesn't show up in synaptic for me.
[09:05] <HappyFool> !tell winner about repos
[09:05] <HappyFool> winner: the first link is an explanatory page; the second link is a 'sample' sources.list file
[09:06] <Trackilizer> Is there any IM out there with MSN webcam support.
[09:06] <Madeye> guys, I have usplash installed, but how can I change the splash image ? i'm on breezy?
[09:07] <winner> HappyFool: yeah i have. i even have the backport extras.
[09:08] <Trackilizer> I know about aMSN but i can't seem to find a webcam feture.
[09:08] <HappyFool> winner: hmm. did you remember to run apt-get update?
[09:08] <_SWAT_> is there a way to set the font size in the xorg.conf file? (for usage for dual-screen setup) My 2nd monitor font is a bit screwed up (other font size)
[09:08] <j^> whats a good sipphone for breezy?
[09:08] <winner> HappyFool: yep. done it many times now.
[09:08] <Trackilizer> Is there a version out there with webcam support?
[09:09] <Trackilizer> Or any other IM?
[09:09] <HappyFool> winner: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin?
[09:09] <DaMi3n> i just replaced my sources.list file and upgraded from hoary to breezy..but not all packages have been upgraded.. how do i get them upgraded as well??
[09:09] <HappyFool> DaMi3n: did you do a dist-upgrade?
[09:09] <Determinist> anyone know of any alarm clock that plays an mp3 to wake me up? i have karen's thingy under windows but wasnt able to find something similiar for linux
[09:09] <Trackilizer> I guess there is no IM out there with MSN webacm support?
[09:10] <winner> HappyFool: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/360824
[09:10] <Determinist> Trackilizer: doubt it.
[09:10] <Trackilizer> Or can i download a plugin for Gaim?
[09:10] <Trackilizer> I see.
[09:10] <snausages> how do i update gaim to 1.5? it doesn't show up in synaptic for me.
[09:10] <Trackilizer> All my contacts in MSN do have webcams.
[09:11] <HappyFool> winner: you don't have 'normal' universe or multiverse
[09:11] <HappyFool> winner: also, line 11 is unnecessar
[09:11] <Trackilizer> Another thing i wanted to know is how to i update Gnome to the new version?
[09:11] <HappyFool> winner: compare that with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:11] <Trackilizer> apt-get upgrade doen't seem to do the job.
[09:12] <Kaaden> i just installed 5.04 and when i go to boot it up it just stays on a black screen and the only thing on it is a little _ in the top left corner any ideas?
[09:12] <HappyFool> winner: you need lines like 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary universe
[09:12] <winner> HappyFool: i see. do i uncomment it?
[09:12] <HappyFool> winner: also, unless you're planning on doing development, i wouldn't bother with deb-src
[09:12] <HappyFool> winner: yeah, didn't see that on line 27
[09:12] <HappyFool> winner: note that you need multiverse for msttcorefonts
[09:13] <Trackilizer> Would anyone happen to know if there will be a webcam support IM out soon?
[09:13] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: do you have acsess to Ubuntu?
[09:13] <winner> HappyFool: does uncommenting universe fall into multiverse?
[09:13] <HappyFool> winner: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 as a reference
[09:13] <HappyFool> winner: no, they are different
[09:13] <Trackilizer> Have you guys updated Gnome yet?
[09:13] <Trackilizer> If yes how?
[09:13] <Kaaden> its weird imo it boots fine then just jumps right to that black screen
[09:13] <winner> HappyFool: how would i get a multiverse source?
[09:14] <winner> HappyFool: or do i already have one?
[09:14] <HappyFool> winner: have you looked at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 yet?
[09:14] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: try changing tty
[09:14] <winner> HappyFool: at it right now :)
[09:14] <Kaaden> hrrm?
[09:14] <Kaaden> ive never used ubuntu really before i was more of a gentoo person
[09:15] <Kaaden> so i am lost
[09:15] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: tx a lot that solved my poblem
[09:15] <HappyFool> DaMi3n: cool. good luck with breezy
[09:15] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: you change to ttyX by pressing Ctrl + Alt + FX
[09:15] <funkyHat> is it safe to upgrade to breezy while X is running? :)
[09:15] <jackofalltrades> i have a problem where my wireless card can connect to all the machines on my local network, but it cant connect to the internet
[09:15] <Kaaden> Gnonthgol: hold on let me try that
[09:16] <HappyFool> winner: line 14 is what you want
[09:16] <cusco> gnomebaker tell sme that the plugin to handle a file of type mp3 is not installed. would that be gstreamer mad?
[09:16] <winner> HappyFool: does a line with both universe and multiverse cover both?
[09:16] <HappyFool> winner: yip
[09:16] <cusco> because xmms reads
[09:16] <winner> HappyFool: thanks!
[09:16] <HappyFool> winner: np
[09:16] <Cryptid> Hey i got Wine on my Ubuntu now plz gimme instruction on how to install .exe files
[09:16] <Determinist> no one? nobody here uses their computer for an alarm clock?
[09:16] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: one more thing .. is there any s/w that can show all the computers present in my network/lan and show what resources are shared by them
[09:16] <Quinthius> winner: yes but it might be bette rto make seperate lines for them so you can easily check & uncheck them in synaptic's repos list
[09:17] <funkyHat> Determinist, i have done once or twice :P
[09:17] <winner> Quinthius: good idea.
[09:17] <HappyFool> DaMi3n: um. maybe smbtree ? (for windows networks)
[09:17] <winner> Quinthius: thanks
[09:17] <Quinthius> winner: or just to be able to easily comment/uncomment them in the file
[09:17] <Gnonthgol> jackofalltrades: static IP I guess
[09:17] <jackofalltrades> Gnonthgol, nope,dynamic
[09:17] <Determinist> funkyHat: using what?
[09:17] <Kaaden> gnonthgol: cntrl+alt+ fx? wtf is fx
[09:17] <HappyFool> f1 or f2 or ...
[09:17] <Determinist> funkyHat: because at the current state of things, i have to switch to XP to get my trusty alarm clock running... and i dont like that
[09:18] <HappyFool> the keys probably at the top of your keyboard
[09:18] <funkyHat> i was on windows then... i set up a task scheduler task that pointed to an m3u playlist with some really loud music on it
[09:18] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: x is a a number from 1 to 12
[09:18] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: isnt there something similar with gui??
[09:18] <enyc> '' trusty alarm clock '' ??
[09:18] <Determinist> funkyHat: i do that every day lol
[09:18] <cusco> gnomebaker tells me that the plugin to handle a file of type mp3 is not installed. would that be gstreamer-mad????
[09:18] <funkyHat> Determinist, i  believe there is an alarm clock module for xmms/bmp though....
[09:18] <Kaaden> oh....lawll noone has ever used that expression where i come from
[09:18] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: gnome is at tty7
[09:18] <sanketmedhi> hello!
[09:18] <emitrax> hi
[09:18] <Gnonthgol> hi
[09:18] <Determinist> funkyHat: i dont trust it tho :/ bmp is buggy
[09:18] <HappyFool> DaMi3n: try (maybe) Places -> Network Servers ? (this is in hoary; don't know if it's in breezy)
[09:19] <emitrax> questio: How do I avoid to upgrade my kernel when I run apt-get upgrade ?
[09:19] <bt> any ideas why in KDE when I try to run a program in admin mode it always says password incorrect? (Run as root - window)
[09:19] <HappyFool> Determinist: use cron and mpg321 then
[09:19] <funkyHat> Determinist, set up a cron job that launches a file with your media player of choice then
[09:19] <Determinist> that... could work. any graphical cron job setter you know? cant be arsed learning that syntax right now
[09:20] <Gnonthgol> jackofalltrades: does the other computers work at the same DHCP? Does some Ubuntu boxes work?
[09:20] <mirak> hi
[09:20] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: thing is it doesnt actually show all the systems in network
[09:20] <kemik> Determinist:  cron "syntax" is quite simple tho
[09:20] <winner> guys, how does OO.o compare to MS Office?
[09:20] <mirak> I wanted to install GXchat but it removed ubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <snausages> how can i upgrade gaim to 1.5? it doesn't show up in synaptic.
[09:20] <HappyFool> Determinist: i see a 'gcrontab' and 'kcrontab' in the repositories
[09:20] <Determinist> not at the moment it isnt, i'm half asleep and barely typing
[09:20] <mirak> is there a way for futur upgrade to know what ubuntu-desktop is adding ?
[09:20] <Determinist> HappyFool: thanks
[09:21] <kemik> winner:  for the more advanced tasks i think M$ is better.. but in general OO will do just fine
[09:21] <winner> kemik: hm. i see. i'm using it right now to type up a paper. office will be able to read OO.o files, right?
[09:22] <kemik> winner:  dont know.. OO can read m$ though
[09:22] <winner> kemik: just to check it out. never really used OO.o to type anything. i don't like how autosave has to ask me where to save at though.
[09:23] <Gnonthgol> winner: M$ Office does not suport the standard OO.o
[09:23] <cusco> gnomebaker tells me that the plugin to handle a file of type mp3 is not installed. would that be gstreamer-mad????
[09:23] <Kaaden> Gnonthgol: system is non-responsive to everything
[09:23] <jdermer> hey
[09:23] <jdermer> wut its breezy colony ?
[09:23] <HappyFool> cusco: maybe gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[09:23] <jdermer> like i know breezy is a preview release of 5.10
[09:23] <HappyFool> cusco: that's a guess
[09:23] <enyc> jder: breezy == next release of ubuntu, due to release next month
[09:23] <jdermer> but wut are the colonies
[09:23] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: thing is it doesnt actually show all the systems in network
[09:23] <funkyHat> a preview release of the next version of breezy
[09:23] <enyc> jder: "colony" releases are preview sub-releases
[09:23] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: can you get to any data on the install?
[09:24] <funkyHat> breezy is not a preview release, it's the name of the next official release
[09:24] <DaMi3n> HappyFool: isnt is possible tto scan all ips in a given range
[09:24] <jdermer> how many have there been ?
[09:24] <enyc> jder: i.e. colony-1 colony-2 colony-3 colony-4   preview rlleases.. to test  install CDs etc.
[09:24] <Kaaden> Gnonthgol: what do you mean by that
[09:24] <Gnonthgol> !breezy
[09:24] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:24] <HappyFool> DaMi3n: you can try applications -> system tools -> network tools maybe; further than that i don't know
[09:24] <jdermer> o
[09:25] <jdermer> how can i install firefox 1.5 beta on my hoary
[09:25] <HappyFool> download it from mozilla.org and follow their installation instructions
[09:25] <jdermer> i wanted to it with synaptic and stuff
[09:26] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: can you get the Live CD goung, does you have other OS's, etc.
[09:26] <jdermer> also if u were to download 5.10 preview from ubuntu.com which "colony" would it be
[09:26] <winner> Gnonthgol: yeah i saved it in .doc format, hopefully it'll work.
[09:26] <Kaaden> i had the live cd going and this is a clean hd
[09:26] <Gnonthgol> winner: It will
[09:26] <Oroboros> is it possible to access the packages at http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages with synaptic package manager?
[09:27] <kemik> Oroboros:  it'll probably break your installation so its not adviced
[09:27] <Oroboros> i see.
[09:27] <selinium> Any python programmers about?
[09:27] <Oroboros> is there a way to import a single .deb file into synaptic, then?
[09:27] <Oroboros> i would really like to run the newest amule.
[09:28] <kemik> Oroboros:  you can download any .deb and use dkpg
[09:28] <Gnonthgol> Kaaden: can you start the Live CD and get acess to the Ubuntu installed?
[09:28] <Cryptid> Ubotu will i be able to update my existing ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 with having to install the new OS all over again
[09:28] <ubotu> Cryptid: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:28] <kemik> but as i said, if it's not ubuntu packages it may break your shit
[09:28] <kevogod> What is the best free web editor available for Ubuntu?
[09:28] <Oroboros> thank you, kemik
[09:28] <Kaaden> Gnonthgol: havent tryed give me a second
[09:28] <kevogod> I am using Screem right now, was using Bluefish.
[09:28] <Cryptid> will i be able to update my existing ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 with having to install the new OS all over again
[09:29] <Gnonthgol> yes
[09:29] <Oroboros> but what is dkpg?
[09:29] <Oroboros> that seems like an important question to ask ;)
[09:29] <kemik> dpkg - a medium-level package manager for Debian
[09:29] <kemik> !dpkg
[09:30] <Oroboros> !tell Oroboros dpkg
[09:30] <kemik> !tell Oroboros about dpkg
[09:30] <selinium> kevogod, I am using bluefish, why did you change?
[09:30] <D1> anyone own a linux compatible scanner here?
[09:31] <Cryptid> #kubuntu
[09:31] <mt_holden_ss> need help pls
[09:31] <kevogod> selinium, Screem is better suited for me.
[09:32] <mt_holden_ss> how do i partition my hd so i can install ubuntu
[09:32] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  that depends
[09:32] <kemik> on a number of things
[09:32] <selinium> kevogod, Sorry, I program mostly PHP stuff. Is Screem worth a look?
[09:32] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: the way you like
[09:32] <mt_holden_ss> well wat are they cause im really frustrated righ now
[09:33] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  a) you dont have to partition
[09:33] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: what is the problem?
[09:33] <kevogod> selinium, Probably
[09:33] <mt_holden_ss> well i got windows xp installed too i want to dual boot
[09:33] <kevogod> selinium, It supports PHP syntax highlighting
[09:33] <kemik> the just create an empty partition
[09:33] <selinium> kevogod, Cheers.
[09:33] <kemik> with Partition Magic or some other disk application
[09:33] <mt_holden_ss> and how do i create an empty partition
[09:33] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: Ubuntu will install Grub to handle the dual boot
[09:34] <kemik> or even use the ubuntu-installer, it's supposed to have some resize option
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> beagle isn't working.
[09:34] <mt_holden_ss> ok i just dont know how to install a empty partition
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> The query for fox failed.
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> The likely cause is that the beagle daemon isn't running.Click to start the Beagle daemon...
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> does nothing.
[09:34] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: but the ubuntu installer cant rezise NTFS
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> why the hell does beagle need a daemon.
[09:34] <kemik> !resize
[09:34] <ubotu> it has been said that resize is The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[09:34] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, So it can index files?
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  so do it from the application?
[09:35] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  i think it can
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> kevogod: it seems that rhythmbox can index mp3s fine
[09:35] <Cryptid> I am trying to install Amarok on Ubuntu but it says that Amarock is for KDE so will amarok work on my com
[09:35] <mt_holden_ss> so if i install it on my c drive which has windows xp will everything be lost?
[09:35] <funkyHat> how can i keep the time on my system up to date, if it's not going to be restarted ever.
[09:35] <funkyHat> no GUI either
[09:35] <kevogod> Yes, since RhythmBox does what Beagle does.
[09:35] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  to be honest, i dont think you should dabble with this.. you'll have to read up a bit before installing ubuntu
[09:35] <cusco> gnomebaker tells me that there isn't a plugin installed to handle files of type mp3, what plugin would that be?
[09:36] <DaMi3n> Cryptid, do apt-get install amarok
[09:36] <will007> can anyone tell me an APT line for synaptic package manager that will let me access the debian repository?
[09:36] <will007> i promise i won't break my system ;)
[09:36] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  doesn't ntpd fudge with the time server to keep up to date?
[09:36] <endy_x> cusco, probably something to do with LAME
[09:36] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  it is not as userfriendly as windows, if you're willing to learn and have the time.. then go ahead. but be aware that it's not a walk in the park
[09:36] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, The daemon ensures that your search always up-to-date.
[09:36] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning <-- thats a start
[09:36] <mt_holden_ss> so u said partition magic would do the trck
[09:36] <Gnonthgol> kemik: It ruined my NTFS, Linux just got the read thing in NTFS writing is complexe
[09:36] <endy_x> cusco, sorry it's gstreamer based
[09:37] <LokeDK> What kernel does breezy run as default atm?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  beagled doesn't work.
[09:37] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: PM is the best option
[09:37] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  resizing a partition table and writing to the filesystem is different things
[09:37] <kevogod> If you were using Beagle and it had to index new files every time you used it, it would defeat the purpose of itself.
[09:37] <mt_holden_ss> pm equals partiton magic u mean?
[09:37] <kemik> but i do agree, PM is most likely the best option
[09:37] <endy_x> LokeDK, 2.6.12-8
[09:37] <kemik> pm = partition magix
[09:37] <LokeDK> thanks
[09:37] <kemik> -x+c
[09:37] <mt_holden_ss> thanks
[09:38] <bluefoxicy> kevogod: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yeybBA70.html
[09:38] <will007> can anyone tell me an APT line for synaptic package manager that will let me access the debian repository?
[09:38] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, Sure it does. I would not judge Beagle on Ubuntu.
[09:38] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: PM eaven got the "Install Linux" command
[09:38] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  or read the wiki-page
[09:38] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, i just installed ntpdate, but i don't know if it's going to be run periodically....
[09:38] <endy_x> will007,  it's not a good idea to use debian's repos
[09:38] <mt_holden_ss> wat was that wiki page again?
[09:38] <endy_x> will007, it can cause system breakage
[09:38] <will007> i realize it's risky.
[09:38] <HaJabOoJa> Is there anyway to get my boot loader working if I have installed windows after Linux? I had to reinstall windows
[09:38] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  scroll up
[09:39] <Gnonthgol> !resize
[09:39] <ubotu> I heard resize is The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[09:39] <will007> but it is necessary to install the latest amule, which i must have the precious ;)
[09:39] <funkyHat> will007, if there's a package you need from that repository, you could just download it from packages.debian.org
[09:39] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  I mean ntpd, the daemon.  I thought it would keep itself up to date by measuring drift and adapting to keep the clock in sync with minimal actual resyncing
[09:39] <mt_holden_ss> thanks dude
[09:39] <kemik> will007:  you could add the repos to your sources.list or just download the single .deb
[09:39] <mt_holden_ss> well wat linux system do u think is the most user friendly?
[09:39] <kemik> will007:  but be aware that it may break your system
[09:39] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, apparently it wasn't, as the machine was about 10 minutes out until just now
[09:39] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  ubuntu
[09:39] <bluefoxicy> mt_holden_ss: mandrake, or ubuntu :)
[09:39] <will007> funkyhat, it has crazy dependencies, and not having to chase down dependencies manually is the whole point of debian, right? ;)
[09:39] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  or redhat
[09:39] <kemik> (fedora core.)
[09:39] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  ahh, rm.
[09:39] <mt_holden_ss> fedora?
[09:39] <Cryptid> DaMi3n i am using synaptic to install it will it work and i tried wat u said it says that unable to unclock adminstrator mode some other application may be using it
[09:40] <endy_x> will007, why not just download the .deb and "sudo dpkg -i <package name>" ?
[09:40] <will007> if it breaks my machine, i'll format and reinstall. no sweat. do you know the apt line?
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> fedora core takes about 900 megs more space than it needs
[09:40] <kemik> will007:  there's no "apt-line"
[09:40] <HaJabOoJa> Is there anyway I can reconfigure my boot loader if I have installed windows after Linux?
[09:40] <kemik> will007:  a) download the .deb OR b) add debian repositories and grab the deb with apt-get
[09:40] <will007> endy, because it has many dependencies which are also unavailable in the ubuntu packages.
[09:41] <funkyHat> (the program i just installed (ntpdate) ran when it finished installing)
[09:41] <mt_holden_ss> wats the pros about linux? i just got intrested a couple days back
[09:41] <will007> is there a reason to use apt-get instead of synaptic, kemik?
[09:41] <_SWAT_> mt_holden_ss, everything :)
[09:41] <kevogod> mt_holden_ss, Anyone is free to modify it.
[09:41] <endy_x> mt_holden_ss, there are many pros, I suggest you d/l a live disc and try it out!
[09:41] <funkyHat> stability, customisability, fun :),
[09:41] <mt_holden_ss> ok so it kills windows
[09:42] <kemik> will007:  there's really no difference between them except the graphical interface
[09:42] <winner> does anyone know how to change mouse cursors?
[09:42] <mt_holden_ss> ive got a d/l disk im just thiinking should i install it
[09:42] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  try a livecd first
[09:42] <winner> when i drag a window around, i get a white block.
[09:42] <endy_x> mt_holden_ss, a live cd will not install anything and you can try everything. but yeah install it if you want too its great!
[09:42] <kevogod> mt_holden_ss, Nah, go outside and bike.
[09:42] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: In closes source you have to compromise in open source it have to compromise
[09:42] <will007> well, my original question was what is the APT line to add debian repositories to synaptic.
[09:43] <_SWAT_> mt_holden_ss, just install it and try it. Or try the live cd (ubuntu live cd or knoppix or something)
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  I would probably design it to find files by path and check their mtime, then hash, to see if they changed.  The question is, though, how does beagle index files anyway?
[09:43] <kemik> will007:  and there is none... edit source.list
[09:43] <CookedGryphon> mt_holden_ss, as long as ure sure u can get an internet connection u can come in here and we'll help u fix any problems u may have
[09:43] <_SWAT_> mt_holden_ss, you have to 'learn' a bit. It's different than windows, but once you know your way, it's great
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  it can't possibly kep a database "File X contains dog, foo, cat, beagle, nmap"
[09:43] <kemik> will007:  /etc/apt/sources.list ... synaptic has some gui-way of doing that
[09:43] <will007> i see. where is this found?
[09:43] <HaJabOoJa> Can someone give me a ahdn?
[09:43] <Jester> Hi, after upgrading to breezy, I switched the keyboard driver for xorg to "kdb" (supposedly "keyboard" doesn't work anymore) but I can't switch to virtual consoles from X anymore with ctrl-alt+Fn, ctrl+alt+backspace works ok though. Anyone knows what's up with this ?
[09:43] <CookedGryphon> mt_holden_ss, i've got rid of windows completely and i don't miss it at all!
[09:43] <_SWAT_> mt_holden_ss, I switched this spring.... never looked back
[09:43] <mt_holden_ss> i got knoppix and i can surf the net ect
[09:43] <will007> thanks, didn't see you answered.
[09:43] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, why not? ;)
[09:43] <Gnonthgol> will007: echo "the repo" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <will007> yes, it has a gui way, which asks for an APT line.
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat: well let's see. . . .your index would be exponentially larger than the files that were being indexed?
[09:44] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, http://beaglewiki.org/
[09:44] <CookedGryphon> mt_holden_ss, even if u do need a windows app, u can use cedega ( the free version)
[09:44] <mt_holden_ss> i can surf the net with knoppix its great jus goes slow off the disc
[09:44] <_SWAT_> mt_holden_ss, tip: make sure you have someone who will 'introduce' you. A friend who already uses linux or something (that saves a lot of work)
[09:44] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, It has never been conserving space.
[09:44] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  wouldnt a ">>" be better ?
[09:44] <DaMi3n> Cryptid, repeat ur prob again??
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  1k of files, 10 megs of index; 100 megs of files, 2.6x10^49 terrabytes of index.
[09:44] <mt_holden_ss> im attempting to partition my disc now to install it
[09:44] <Gnonthgol> kemik: typho mistake
[09:45] <CookedGryphon> _SWAT_, u don't need that if u can get into here, i made it with the help of u guys!
[09:45] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  pretty critical one
[09:45] <kemik> since ">" will actually overwrite his file
[09:45] <Gnonthgol> kemik: I know, lol
[09:45] <HaJabOoJa> I am trying to get my boot loader to work after installing windows AFTER Linux... Can anyone give me a hand?
[09:45] <_SWAT_> CookedGryphon, I know. I had trouble installing (and then it sucks, because you can't get on IRC :P)
[09:45] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, no, it only needs to have a list of words, and a list of the files those words are in, in a database form that could be very compact
[09:45] <Cryptid> DaMi3n i am using synaptic to install Amarok will it work and i tried wat u said it says that unable to unclock adminstrator mode some other application may be using it
[09:45] <kevogod> I don't see how you arrived at terrabytes
[09:45] <kevogod> lol
[09:45] <adjacent> HaJabOoJa: boot from CD into your linux system and reload grub/lilo
[09:46] <kemik> !grub
[09:46] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:46] <CookedGryphon> _SWAT_, i had trouble with my laptop's internet connectionh, luckily i have ubuntu all set up on my main pc so could find out what to do from that
[09:46] <kemik> HaJabOoJa:  second link from ubotu , go read it
[09:46] <HaJabOoJa> ah ha.... sounds good. Thanks. :D
[09:46] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, http://beaglewiki.org/FAQ
[09:46] <adjacent> HaJabOoJa: make sure to add the lines to boot windows too
[09:46] <Gnonthgol> HaJabOoJa: edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  list ALL WORDS that  may be searched for and ALL FILES with those words?
[09:46] <mt_holden_ss> so linux will take care of the dual boot up how come its soo complex to set up wireless net with linux
[09:46] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, yes
[09:46] <HaJabOoJa> Ok, thanks guys... much appreciated
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  fragments of words?  Words you haven't heard of?
[09:46] <funkyHat> :)
[09:46] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: driver problems
[09:47] <DaMi3n> try doing it in cmd line
[09:47] <adjacent> mt_holden_ss: because wireless chip manufacturors have done a terrible job with stadardizing drivers
[09:47] <DaMi3n> Cryptid: try doing it in cmd line
[09:47] <kemik> hardware manufacturers have poor driver support for linux
[09:47] <kevogod> Words do not take up much space.
[09:47] <funkyHat> i don't really have a clue bluefoxicy i'm just giving suggestions :P
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  typos, URIs, words that make no sense, emoticons. . .
[09:47] <kevogod> Nor do pictures
[09:47] <mt_holden_ss> ok its just annoying having to get the wire out
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> kev-test:  "how beagle indexes" is not on that page.
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> err.
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> kevogod*
[09:47] <chx> anyone tried fluxbox on ubuntu?
[09:47] <adjacent> mt_holden_ss: you shouldnt if you use a good card
[09:48] <Gnonthgol> chx: yes
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  They don't appear to have open design documentation; apparently they like to just implement and leave the design in the code.
[09:48] <CookedGryphon> !ndiswrapper
[09:48] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:48] <chx> Gnonthgol: great. works nicely :) ?
[09:48] <adjacent> mt_holden_ss: anything not use ndis_wrapper should work great
[09:48] <CookedGryphon> int that suppsoed to make wireless work?
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> (i.e. they like creating an environment where any new developer will create massive numbers of bugs)
[09:48] <mt_holden_ss> can i use messenger on linux
[09:48] <will007> can someone help me add the debian repository to synaptic? i don't care if it hoses my system; i'm going to end up formatting and installing an rpm based distro if i can't anyways. :P
[09:48] <Gnonthgol> chx: no
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> mt_holden_ss:  gaim.sf.net
[09:48] <chx> Gnonthgol: ??
[09:48] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, Don't use then, stop complaining, or go code your self.
[09:48] <CookedGryphon> mt_holden_ss, gaim is installed in ubuntu by default and can connect to most messenger networks
[09:48] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: please dont suggest that =)
[09:49] <Gnonthgol> chx: Can not connect to X server
[09:49] <bluefoxicy> kevogod:  but i'm curious to see how this works~
[09:49] <mt_holden_ss> ok just dont want to stop chatting to my friends
[09:49] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, what?
[09:49] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  no, you can use gaim but it doesnt support all actions in messenger
[09:49] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: ndis_wrapper. its terrible
[09:49] <mt_holden_ss> okk
[09:49] <cute_bettong> why are the breezy repos missing stuff?
[09:49] <cusco> gnomebaker tells me that there isn't a plugin installed to handle files of type mp3, what plugin would that be?
[09:49] <crimsun> will007: there's information for adding repositories on the wiki.
[09:49] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, oh, mkay, sum1 should tell ubotu that then, i was jsut tryin to be helpful
[09:49] <crimsun> cusco: gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:49] <cute_bettong> there are sevral apps that i can not get now with the breezy repos
[09:49] <Gnonthgol> !repos
[09:49] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:49] <crimsun> cusco: if you're using the version in Breezy
[09:50] <cusco> crimsun: I am
[09:50] <kevogod> bluefoxicy, Is it that hard to understand how something is added to a database with searchable metadata? It is not inherently large. It makes it almost instant to make searches due to the centralization of metadata.
[09:50] <will007> when i checked the wiki, it only had info for adding the ones that were commented out in some text file, i forget which.
[09:50] <cute_bettong> like i can't get my astronomy apps and i can't get gkrellm now with breezy cause it's not in the repos
[09:50] <cusco> thanks crimsun
[09:50] <crimsun> will007: then check the Debian Web site for its repository information.
[09:51] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: yeh. gotcha. i dunno who tells ubotu anything ;_
[09:51] <kevogod> Metadata on text is small and does not matter on large drives.
[09:51] <CookedGryphon> !ubotu
[09:51] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[09:51] <mt_holden_ss> im starting to get sick of having to reformat my computer everytime my computer goes slow hope linux is good with security
[09:51] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, u can tell it
[09:51] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: cool =)
[09:51] <will007> sources.list would be the text file.
[09:51] <cute_bettong> linux is more secure than windows will ever be
[09:52] <mt_holden_ss> okk
[09:52] <will007> thanks, though, ubotu. you're a good bot.
[09:52] <CookedGryphon> LOL i think i worked out what was wrong with my hdparm.conf.. /dev/cdroms/cdrom ?!?! what' the hell's that
[09:52] <Utopiate> Where are the default icon pix located?
[09:53] <CookedGryphon> mt_holden_ss, and no1 bothers writing viruses for it cos it changes so quick and most ppl who use it kno what they're doing
[09:53] <CookedGryphon> and there's less exploits to make use of anyway
[09:54] <CookedGryphon> Does anyone know how i can find out what speed i should set my dvd drive to usin hdparm??? its in a laptop and its set to somethign like 2x atm, n i dunno how to find out what its meant to be
[09:54] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, one major advantage of linux (most unixes in fact) is that you don't run as a priveliged user most of the time
[09:54] <axl> Hi! I just upgraded to breezy, what command should i run to fix the fonts in firefox? They are blurry...
[09:54] <mt_holden_ss> okk
[09:54] <Starrysky> hi, can anyone tell me which file controls the way the programs are launched. For instance my gnome starts up a white xtrem shell ... if i wanted to summon my xterm in black background, i'd want the command to run as xterm -hc black; but as it is ... gnome always calls me a white colored xterm. Any help would be useful, tks.
[09:54] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, this means that if someone does manage to get you to run malicious code, it can only do limited damage
[09:54] <bt> have any newsgroups about ubuntu been created? where?
[09:55] <mt_holden_ss> thats a life saver im getting a mac soon so ill have linux and mac no windows
[09:55] <Hype-> is there any big changes to come in breezy, or should it be relativly safe to upgrade ?
[09:55] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, you can get superuser access anytime you need it though really easily (just input the password where it asks you)
[09:55] <mt_holden_ss> and wat would the password be
[09:55] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: Apple OS is in fact a UNIX OS
[09:56] <mt_holden_ss> okk
[09:56] <nomis_> Starrysky, maybe this file helps you  /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color
[09:56] <mt_holden_ss> and how would i know the pass
[09:56] <Starrysky> nomis thank you
[09:56] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, you choose it when you install linux
[09:56] <gouchi> Hi
[09:56] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: you wouls type it in the install
[09:56] <mt_holden_ss> ok kool can i have multiple users accounts
[09:56] <gouchi> crimsun : can you check if the bugreport is ok ?
[09:56] <chrisbudden14> How can i get my CD burning to work again.  Was working fine in horay, now upgraded to breezy and i cannot burn with gnomebaker or right click-> write to disk, with ISO's
[09:56] <funkyHat> of course
[09:56] <gouchi> crimsun : http://rafb.net/paste/results/iJ4IT065.html
[09:57] <mt_holden_ss> can  i like install all my windows apps like konfabulator and halo 1 flash ect
[09:57] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: you can have the user acounts on a seperate disk too
[09:57] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: some, but not halo
[09:58] <mt_holden_ss> ohh is ther a good reason y i cant install halo
[09:58] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, there's a good reason why you can't use any windows app.
[09:58] <funkyHat> linux doesn't use the same programming languages
[09:58] <kemik> funkyHat:  oh they do
[09:58] <funkyHat> sorry, kemik  is right
[09:59] <kemik> but not the same libs etc
[09:59] <funkyHat> they don't use the same APIs
[09:59] <Gnonthgol> mt_holden_ss: the gaming industrie get monny to use windows
[09:59] <kemik> f.ex windows uses DirectX for 3d, and linux has OpenGl
[09:59] <mt_holden_ss> ok well then howcoem on the linux guide site i got a link to use some linux software to use windows apps or is it limited to wat i can to
[09:59] <mt_holden_ss> do
[09:59] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  wine and cedega is very limited
[10:00] <mt_holden_ss> okk
[10:00] <CookedGryphon> u can use cedega which runs a lot of windows games
[10:00] <kemik> mt_holden_ss:  i would not recommend you to switch to linux unless you seriously consider "WHY" you want to switch
[10:00] <funkyHat> mt_holden_ss, the point i was making was without those apps, you couldn't use any windows apps
[10:00] <CookedGryphon> the full version requires u to pay, but there's a way to get it free
[10:00] <mt_holden_ss> thats y i am researching really hard to dual boot
[10:01] <funkyHat> setting up dual boot is quite easy, as long as you're happy to reinstall windows and can specify a smaller partition size for it
[10:01] <AzO-T> hi, somebody speak spanish?
[10:01] <kemik> !spanish
[10:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:01] <leo> I am a newbee with LINUX, how do I install a library in Ubuntu
[10:01] <AzO-T> thanks
[10:01] <kemik> funkyHat:  no need to reinstall windows... just resize the current partition
[10:02] <kemik> leo:  usually with apt-get or synaptic
[10:02] <funkyHat> kemik, is that reliable?
[10:02] <kemik> or aptitude
[10:02] <kemik> funkyHat:  of course
[10:02] <kemik> funkyHat:  use either partition magic or the ubuntu installer
[10:02] <funkyHat> i heard it was only reliable with nfts partitions with no errors (or vfat of course)
[10:03] <mt_holden_ss> g2g
[10:03] <mt_holden_ss> cya
[10:03] <pirast> !grub
[10:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:03] <kemik> funkyHat:  well if there's errors on your drive, nothings reliable ;)
[10:03] <funkyHat> and ntfs partitions with no errors are uneard of ;)
[10:03] <funkyHat> *unheard
[10:03] <Mystery7k> any help on installing real player for the first time?
[10:03] <Equinox> I'm trying to get the JRE from backports, but it isn't working.. Any suggestions?  I added deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted to my sources
[10:03] <kemik> !realplayer
[10:03] <ubotu> hmm... realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:04] <Equinox> !jre
[10:04] <Mystery7k> i need something to play my mp3s
[10:04] <ubotu> Equinox: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:04] <funkyHat> Mystery7k,
[10:04] <Equinox> ubotu- Huh?
[10:04] <funkyHat> !java
[10:04] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:04] <chrisbudden14> anyone cd burning help?
[10:04] <kemik> someone should make a plugin to ubotu so all the common questions get answered automagically
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> Myrtti, don't use realplayer its slow n rubbish, get bmp ( beep-media-player)
[10:04] <kemik> ie: all the google/wiki questions ;)
[10:05] <Equinox> Sweet.  THat got it
[10:05] <nomike> hi
[10:05] <FR500> does xdmcp work over internet at all?
[10:05] <CookedGryphon> not Myrtti  sry Mystery7k
[10:05] <FR500> it works just fine on the lan but it doesn't work through internet for me
[10:05] <nomike> I have installed samba with apt but there is no /etc/init.d/samba
[10:06] <funkyHat> FR500, maybe you need to open the port in your router?
[10:06] <Mystery7k> no problem.
[10:06] <Mystery7k> sorry fellas im new to this
[10:06] <FR500> funkyHat: one has a real ip
[10:06] <Mystery7k> what does it mean when the text is in red
[10:06] <kemik> nomike:  installation failed?
[10:06] <funkyHat> oh right
[10:06] <FR500> funkyHat: the other one is the client so it shouldnt need
[10:06] <funkyHat> yeah
[10:07] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, it means sum1 has said ure name
[10:07] <Mystery7k> oh.. lol
[10:07] <Mystery7k> so should i get the bmp rather than realplayer?
[10:07] <nomike> kemik: no
[10:07] <FR500> funkyHat: have you tried it?
[10:07] <kemik> FR500:  is the one with the "real ip" using a firewall? if so you still need to open the port
[10:07] <CookedGryphon> wonder if it works when u say ure own name... and yse u should, that or xmmms
[10:07] <funkyHat> Mystery7k, what were you going to use realplayer for?
[10:07] <CookedGryphon> xmms sry
[10:07] <FR500> kemik: it has but now it's down
[10:07] <CookedGryphon> playing mp3s
[10:07] <Mystery7k> mp3s...
[10:07] <Mystery7k> and I tried xmms but it freezez when I try to play a song
[10:07] <funkyHat> funkyHat, no, i don't have a need for xdmcp at the moment
[10:08] <FR500> kemik: the firewall is disabled
[10:08] <Hype-> is it possible to get totem to play wmv files?
[10:08] <CookedGryphon> i find realplayer really slow, it practically stops my computer runnign n goes really jerky even tho the quality's rubbish
[10:08] <CookedGryphon> Hype-, yes, install w32codecs
[10:08] <funkyHat> Mystery7k, if xmms freezes, that's because you've got the wrong sound output plugin selected
[10:08] <kemik> FR500:  if the firewall is disabled and the server is running and you have connectivity between them, then there's something malconfigured
[10:08] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, is  ti set to esound?
[10:08] <CookedGryphon> i have bmp and that's similar and it only works on esound, alsa and oss crash it
[10:08] <Mystery7k> Sorry guys im prob the biggest dumb ass in here right now..
[10:09] <FR500> kemik: on the lan it works by just enabling it in the login manager screen
[10:09] <funkyHat> nah
[10:09] <Mystery7k> I just installed this system the other day..
[10:09] <funkyHat> ubotu is pretty dumb
[10:09] <ubotu> funkyHat: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:09] <FR500> same comps on the lan work just fine
[10:09] <funkyHat> yes, yes i did
[10:09] <Mystery7k> and I've been trying to learn by reading online
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, we've all been ther eone time over
[10:09] <Mystery7k> cookedgryphon, where is the ti and esound?
[10:10] <CookedGryphon> lol ti was it backwards, typo sry
[10:10] <Mystery7k> lol
[10:10] <Mystery7k> So how would I change to esound.
[10:10] <funkyHat> mystery, go to preferences, in the first tab there is a 'output plugin' option
[10:10] <funkyHat> set it to eSound
[10:10] <CookedGryphon> em ,i don't use xmms bit it should be under preferences somewhere, sound plugin
[10:10] <CookedGryphon> that's the one
[10:11] <FR500> kemik: something weird, it works with a windows clien and cygwin
[10:11] <Mystery7k> CookedGryphon, thank you i'll try that
[10:11] <CookedGryphon> np
[10:11] <kemik> FR500:  then maybe the linuxclient is malconfigged?
[10:11] <kemik> or some other weird thing ...
[10:11] <kemik> dont have enough info to help out
[10:12] <FR500> kemik: the linux client works if both in the same lan
[10:12] <Mystery7k> hey, your a smart man.. .lol Cooked
[10:12] <funkyHat> FR500, does the server machine have 2 network interfaces?
[10:13] <luder> hows it going everyone
[10:13] <funkyHat> (LAN and WAN)
[10:13] <Mystery7k> now if you could simplify the reason i have to do that.
[10:13] <FR500> funkyHat: no
[10:13] <funkyHat> ok
[10:13] <kemik> FR500:  sounds messy.. everything else works on the client regarding the use of internet
[10:13] <kemik> (surfing etc etc)
[10:13] <h0sl3r> Anyone use fluxspace? I need help setting it up correctly.
[10:13] <FR500> yes
[10:14] <FR500> kemik: the only thing i ahve not tried is hooking directly to the cable modem
[10:14] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, i *think * its because gnome uses alsa to make all the sounds on the windows etc, and then xmms tries to use it at the same time and they crash
[10:14] <CookedGryphon> it shouldn't but it does, could submit it as a bug to the makers, then they'll tryu fix it 4 u!
[10:14] <Mystery7k> So is this going to be something that I'll have to do with all kinds of progs to make them work with ubuntu
[10:14] <CookedGryphon> not necessarily
[10:14] <funkyHat> Mystery7k, hopefully not :)
[10:14] <Mystery7k> lol
[10:14] <`fusion> :>
[10:15] <`fusion> I just installed ubuntu :O
[10:15] <Mystery7k> Well tomorrow I'll be heading to the store for a linux book for dumb ass's
[10:15] <CookedGryphon> there's a lot of confusion over the sound in linux cos there's so many different sound systems available n some use some, some require others
[10:15] <funkyHat> hehe
[10:15] <`fusion> I'm linux noob, but I tried to do a gentoo stage 1 install :\
[10:15] <`fusion> couldn't do it so I used this
[10:15] <funkyHat> lolz
[10:15] <Mystery7k> But I do like linux better than windows
[10:15] <luder> 'fusion, ive been running it off and on for awhile now, just reinstalled it last night, im hoping to use it a lot now
[10:15] <funkyHat> i admire your bravery `fusion
[10:15] <`fusion> hehe
[10:15] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, u'll pick it up
[10:15] <`fusion> it looks neat
[10:15] <luder> id completely change over to linux if it wasnt for games
[10:15] <Mystery7k> slowly but shurly i hope
[10:15] <`fusion> but I cna't figure out how to get my resolution to 1920x1200
[10:16] <`fusion> xorg detected my 2405
[10:16] <bur[n] er> luder: cedega
[10:16] <FR500> luder: what video card u got?
[10:16] <luder> bur[n] er, ive had bad luck with that
[10:16] <luder> radeon 9600
[10:16] <CookedGryphon> Mystery7k, u'll b apt-get ing like a pro b4 long
[10:16] <FR500> luder: windows games should work just fine in cedega
[10:16] <Mystery7k> lol
[10:16] <kemik> FR500:  i dont think i can help out much... unless you route the packets with a ceratin :port destination to some weird adress
[10:16] <luder> FR500, yeah, i probably just didnt set it up right, im still pretty much a linux newb
[10:16] <FR500> kemik: not really i have a linksys nat router
[10:16] <Mystery7k> Well what I have to learn is how to get programs.. because sometimes i use the terminal and other times I dont
[10:16] <`fusion> anyone know how to setup a dell 2405, so I can take advantage of the 1920x1200 in gnome?
[10:17] <FR500> kemik: doing NAT
[10:17] <bur[n] er> luder: what game?
[10:17] <luder> but im taking Intro to Unix/Linux next semester, so hopefully that helps
[10:17] <bur[n] er> cedega has worked beautifully for me
[10:17] <luder> bur[n] er, mostly CS:S/HL2
[10:17] <bur[n] er> even on a shitty radeon 7000 ve
[10:17] <Jemt> Hi. I have just fetched/installed a Counter-Strike server using Steam for Linux. I have launched the server, but I can't connect to it. I did a port-scan on the computer on the port that the Counter-Strike server is using (from my Windows PC), but it dosn't seem to be open. What am I doing wrong?
[10:17] <JaZy84> anyone here run mol ?
[10:17] <bur[n] er> odd.. CS usually works well from what I've heard/read
[10:18] <luder> like i said, im sure i didnt do it right
[10:18] <luder> i didnt try too hard though :)
[10:18] <Mystery7k> So is there any good sites for basic linux I could use with ubuntu?
[10:18] <_StarScream> hi guys, got small problem. I'm trying to find a lame package for ubuntu
[10:18] <bur[n] er> aww
[10:18] <Jemt> Well, it is CS1.6 - Source might work better
[10:18] <lucky> hi.  i'm thinking of moving to ubuntu from freebsd when i get my new PC... I'm just not quite sure what the difference is between KDE and Gnome in respect to Ubuntu.  Why is there a kubuntu release.  Is GNOME integrated into ubuntu is some what tha prevents it from running KDE ?
[10:18] <bur[n] er> Mystery7k: wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[10:18] <_StarScream> apt-cache doesn't seem to have one
[10:18] <kemik> FR500:  mmmh.. well.. cant help out
[10:18] <Mystery7k> ty
[10:18] <gouchi> crimson : bugreport about Intel HD audio crash is here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15031
[10:18] <luder> Mystery7k, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:18] <luder> that sites really helped me out
[10:19] <funkyHat> lucky, no, you can install kubuntu-desktop no problem on ubuntu, it's just forpeople that want an install without gnome i think
[10:19] <aghaster> hi
[10:19] <Stramash> will someone please recommend a good app for creating dvd from avi,xvid,mpeg etc :)
[10:19] <Mystery7k> ty all for your time and support im sure I"ll be on again with more questions but I'll try to get them on my own
[10:20] <aghaster> i would like to know if there's a way to make a wallpaper fit the screen, excluding the bars on top and bottom of the screen
[10:20] <Coag> how can i install the kernel source for 2.6?
[10:20] <aghaster> so that no part of the wallpaper will be hidden
[10:20] <Coag> apt-get install kernel-source gives me a 2.4 kernel
[10:20] <aghaster> coag : use synaptic
[10:20] <JaZy84> can i just run the make menuconfig with the latest linux source and just turn on a something i want, or will it be all messed up (i have to configure what was already in it)
[10:20] <Coag> aghaster, ok
[10:20] <FR500> kemik: no prob
[10:20] <funkyHat> aghaster, edit the image so it has spacers at the top and bottom :P
[10:20] <aghaster> heh, i thought of it
[10:21] <CookedGryphon> aghaster, you could either put white space at the top and bottom that's exactly the width of the bars, or u could make the bars transparent which looks nicer :D
[10:21] <aghaster> heh.... there's really no easy way to do it?&
[10:21] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, it doesn't always look nicer, depends what applets you hav
[10:21] <funkyHat> *have
[10:21] <funkyHat> some of them look awful on a transparent panel
[10:21] <nekohayo> did anybody suceed using the openoffice2 script? for some reason, the files don't seem to be installed, there's no opt folder either
[10:21] <luder> Question, how much does Cegeda reduce performance? my computer barely runs CS:S on Windows, will I see a decrease with Linux/Cedega?
[10:22] <aghaster> lol, for sure yeah
[10:22] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, mine does!! it rocks, and i ahve my terminals see thru too
[10:22] <funkyHat> seethru terminals is cool
[10:22] <funkyHat> i have X-Chat seethru as well
[10:22] <CookedGryphon> funkyHat, and i ahve a red tinted seethru for my root terminal
[10:22] <CookedGryphon> ooh cool dint kno u could do that
[10:22] <leo> downloaded libdvdcss to watch videos, still mystified how to load it in Ubuntu
[10:22] <CookedGryphon> cos i've got a well good photo of my gf (not dodgy) on mydesktop
[10:23] <funkyHat> i don't have a root password, so i don't have a root terminal :P
[10:23] <funkyHat> just sudo -i if i ever really really need it :P
[10:23] <CookedGryphon> leo, libdvdcss2 should b loaded automatically if u apt-get it
[10:23] <CookedGryphon> ah tru
[10:23] <CookedGryphon> but i like my red terminal
[10:23] <funkyHat> yeah that is pretty cool
[10:23] <funkyHat> like a warning
[10:24] <leo> me no speak LINUX me fall Windows user (ouch) how do I use apt-get, how would you load it, monkey see etc
[10:24] <mk4evr> Hi ALL:-)
[10:24] <tucoz> Hi, I saw that the preview of breezy is out. Is it worth at this stage?
[10:24] <CookedGryphon> leo do u kno how to get a terminal up?
[10:24] <funkyHat> leo, it's a command line application. you load it up in a terminal window
[10:24] <leo> yes
[10:24] <jatos> leo, just use synaptic
[10:24] <occy> is it possible for me to apt-get remove my kernel and re-add it to things back to normal?  I followed this guide trying to put my wireless card into monitor mode, and can't figure out how to reverse what I did:   http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[10:24] <tucoz> I meant, is it worth upgrading at this time?
[10:25] <leo> synaptic is a mystery, cannot find the library
[10:25] <jatos> oh
[10:25] <luder> does anyone have a tut to install cegeda?
[10:25] <kevogod> Is the middle-click configured as paste, globally?
[10:25] <CookedGryphon> luder, i ahve a tut for free cedega
[10:25] <mk4evr> have anybody Ubuntu 5.1?
[10:25] <CookedGryphon> on moment
[10:25] <CookedGryphon> one*
[10:25] <luder> CookedGryphon, can you send it my way?
[10:25] <Jemt> I need to start a program as root within Gnome. What is the name of the X-based sudo-program ?
[10:25] <occy> My wireless card worked out of the box with Ubuntu, it just wouldn't go into monitor mode without upgrading the drivers.  Now, (after synaptic upgraded the kernel) I have a busted wireless setup. :/
[10:26] <arkais> hi
[10:26] <kevogod> Jemt, gksudo?
[10:26] <tucoz> leo, what is the problem with apt-get?
[10:26] <CookedGryphon> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 luder
[10:26] <Jemt> kevogod: Yep, thanks :)
[10:26] <jatos> mk4ever I have ubuntu 5.04
[10:26] <occy> crimsun, you about?
[10:26] <luder> thanks a lot, CookedGryphon
[10:26] <leo> problem is Leo, not apt-get, cannot get the syntax correct
[10:26] <dylan_> are there any alternatives to mplayer that i can use to play online videos
[10:26] <leo> dylan, use XINE
[10:26] <kevogod> dylan_, VLC
[10:26] <bitkrom> how would i delete a partition and add its space to another without dataloss
[10:26] <dylan_> kevogod, VLC works in mozilla firefox?
[10:27] <kevogod> dylan_, Sure
[10:27] <tucoz> leo, the syntax is for instance, apt-cache search <package> to find a package to install
[10:27] <dylan_> kevogod, is that sarcasm?
[10:27] <kevogod> dylan_, No
[10:27] <Red_Bullet> please help why when i start btdownloadcurses torrent it isn't start download and just say coonnetting seeders
[10:27] <dylan_> kevogod, ok then ill try it
[10:27] <kevogod> dylan_, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:27] <tucoz> leo, and then to install something you must be root, so: sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:27] <CookedGryphon> luder, i'm not 100% sure it all works, i haven't got round to doing it thru to the end yet, gna wait till i get fast internet at uni
[10:27] <crimsun> occy: yes, but I need to move wifi points
[10:27] <mk4evr> is here anybody from Poland maby?:-)
[10:27] <occy> ahh
[10:27] <leo> aha, een hollander der bij
[10:27] <jatos> its there anyone here who still uses warty out of interest?
[10:27] <occy> crimsun, no worries
[10:27] <crimsun> occy: I should be back in ~20 mins
[10:28] <occy> crimsun, yessir
[10:28] <dylan_> kevogod, yeah thanks....im downloading it now from synaptic
[10:28] <Red_Bullet> please help why when i start btdownloadcurses torrent it isn't start download and just say coonnetting seeders
[10:28] <luder> CookedGryphon, yeah, I don't know how well it will run on my outdated computer
[10:28] <tucoz> leo, or sudo apt-get remove <package> to remove a package
[10:28] <DVSoftware> :D
[10:28] <DVSoftware> i'm here :D
[10:28] <kemik> leo:  if you cnat find it in synaptic, i dont see why you would find it in apt-get
[10:28] <CookedGryphon> luder, ah well, can't do any harm
[10:28] <h0sl3r> Anyone know of a some good packet editing software for linux?
[10:28] <jatos> packet editing?
[10:29] <luder> CookedGryphon, if I get it to work, I'm formatting my harddrive and only using linux :)
[10:29] <DVSoftware> i need quick help
[10:29] <DVSoftware> how to blacklist upgrade of some package?
[10:29] <CookedGryphon> luder, i already got rid of windows, donated my hdd to my dad, who's set in his ways and uses excel n nowt else
[10:29] <nekohayo> luder, to me cedega was just installing like this: open a terminal, dpkg -i thenameofthecedegapackage.deb
[10:29] <DVSoftware> i have compiled and self packaged kvirc
[10:29] <DVSoftware> and it conflicts with official-too-old package
[10:30] <tucoz> leo, if you make changes to /etc/apt/sources.list then you need to run sudo apt-get update to get the new packages in cache
[10:30] <luder> nekohayo, im assuming you subscribed to their service?
[10:31] <nekohayo> well you can get it for free from CVS
[10:31] <nekohayo> then make a deb for later use
[10:31] <luder> ah
[10:32] <jc-denton> i set up breezy
[10:32] <Gobbla> i get a kernel panic when loadin the module GLcore in xorg... any idea why?
[10:32] <kevogod> Can you distribute self-compiled cvscedega packages?
[10:32] <jc-denton> but wasn't asked for a root passwd
[10:32] <jc-denton> so how do i get root now?
[10:32] <nekohayo> don't know about that.. good question
[10:32] <Utopiate> root?
[10:32] <occy> jc-denton, type:  sudo su -
[10:32] <Utopiate> huh?
[10:32] <tucoz> jc-denton, sudo su
[10:32] <occy> jc-denton, and you'll be root.
[10:32] <tucoz> and type your user password
[10:32] <Gobbla> or just open a root termina
[10:32] <Gobbla> l
[10:33] <occy> heh
[10:33] <jc-denton> no im not
[10:33] <asasas> Somebody install Gambas Sucesseful in Ubumtu ?????
[10:33] <Utopiate> Gambas?
[10:33] <funkyHat> jc-denton, you don't need to use root
[10:33] <CookedGryphon> or if u really want a root password, u can sudo passwd
[10:33] <jc-denton> ah ok
[10:33] <funkyHat> use sudo
[10:33] <jc-denton> no sudo su worked
[10:33] <asasas> Gambas (It almost Visual Basic) for programing
[10:33] <funkyHat> jc-denton, if for some reason, you _absolutely must_ use a root terminal, then yeah, that works ;)
[10:33] <tucoz> jc-denton, but it's better to use sudo instead of being root all the time
[10:33] <aghaster> i got a question, is there a way that i would open a 32bit terminal that would emulate a 32bit host?
[10:34] <occy> jc-denton, to "become root" in a terminal, simply right click on your desktop and click on "Open Terminal"   then, type in:    sudo su -           Then, you can put in your user password and voila!  You are root.
[10:34] <jc-denton> tucoz: no
[10:34] <aghaster> i mean, it would be easier to compile software that doesnt compile on x86_64
[10:34] <`fusion> =>
[10:34] <asasas> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/   this is page official
[10:34] <funkyHat> occy, we got that already ;)
[10:34] <tucoz> jc-denton, ok, it's up to you
[10:34] <occy> funkyHat, heh, some people are new, so I was trying to explain in detail.
[10:34] <jc-denton> better open a root shell instead uf typing sudo before every command :D
[10:34] <funkyHat> jc-denton, the reason for what tucoz said is that when you excecute commands through sudo, they are logged. so if you do something bad, you can trace it :)
[10:34] <tucoz> jc-denton, sometimes yes. :)
[10:35] <funkyHat> root terminal isn't logged
[10:35] <`fusion> the device manager in gnome to me doesn't make any sense :O.  xorg.conf shows my video card correctly =\  I don't think I'm using the "nvidia" driver tho.  The module it loaded is nv? isn't that a generic one?
[10:35] <occy> jc-denton, right, that's kinda how I operate too...  typically when I have to do one thing as root, I'll need to do 3 or 4.
[10:35] <occy> easier to just become root than type in sudo command    everytime.
[10:35] <funkyHat> well, typing sudo doesn't take a great deal of effort :p
[10:35] <DSL___> halt
[10:36] <jc-denton> ok logging is maybe an argument
[10:36] <bitkrom> can my sata hard drive only do ntfs for windows? You know i cant write to ntfs?
[10:36] <aghaster> is there a way to run a terminal in 32bit mode so that a configure script would configure for a 32bit host?
[10:36] <depine> hi, i'm brazilian and need help with my sound anyone can help me in pvt?
[10:36] <CookedGryphon> Hey, i have an idea, who do i tell it to? a maximise button that expands the window till it hits something else like the edge of another window, so like the gimp, u can fill the rest of the screen space leaving the toolbox up
[10:37] <don824chan> is there a newbie channel?
[10:37] <funkyHat> this is the newbie channel ;)
[10:37] <tucoz> bitkrom, as far as I know, nfts writing is rather experimental in linux.
[10:37] <funkyHat> XD
[10:37] <kemik> CookedGryphon:  maybe gnome-devel
[10:37] <don824chan> k
[10:37] <tucoz> depine, what is the problem?
[10:37] <topyli> i can't write cds on breezy anymore. is this a common problem?
[10:37] <occy> don824chan, feel free to ask your questions.
[10:37] <funkyHat> lol, not strictly speaking, but we won't try and alienate you or anything for not knowing a lot
[10:37] <depine> can hear any sound
[10:37] <don824chan> What does " sudo apt-get install wine
[10:37] <don824chan> and then wine you_exe_file_name" mean
[10:37] <kemik> !sound
[10:37] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[10:38] <funkyHat> don824chan, i'll explain each bit
[10:38] <occy> don824chan, sudo apt-get install (blah)  is installing an application
[10:38] <funkyHat> sudo is 'superuser do'
[10:38] <CookedGryphon> wine won't dl for me!! :(
[10:38] <Ferko38> alguien que me informe que es hasenfroch
[10:38] <tucoz> depine, yes check that link from ubotu
[10:38] <occy> don824chan, so if you do:  sudo apt-get install wine   you installed the wine application.
[10:38] <funkyHat> it means the command is run as 'root' (the administrator user)
[10:38] <don824chan> how do I sudo apt-get install wine
[10:38] <depine> ok i'll do that...
[10:39] <occy> don824chan, next, if you type:  wine someapplication.exe   that means run the wine (windows emulator, ok ok,  it's not an emulator :P) program
[10:39] <funkyHat> apt-get is a program for managing the programs installed on your system, and downloading them from the ubuntu repositories
[10:39] <don824chan> where do I type that
[10:39] <don824chan> ><
[10:39] <kemik> why not use synaptic instead
[10:39] <occy> don824chan, in a terminal.   Right click on your desktop  and click on "Open Terminal"
[10:39] <funkyHat> right click on the desktop and click 'open terminal'
[10:39] <occy> funkyHat, ;)
[10:39] <kemik> it's a nice GUI for apt
[10:39] <occy> funkyHat, I win!
[10:39] <depine> my soundcard is detected, the sound seems to be played... but i cant hear anything...
[10:39] <funkyHat> occy, i beat you to starting, so you shouldn't have interrupted, i was being nicer than you
[10:39] <don824chan> K I right clicked on desktop
[10:39] <funkyHat> XD :P
[10:39] <don824chan> I don't see Open Terminal
[10:40] <tucoz> depine, is it alsa you use?
[10:40] <kemik> depine:  using the right outpud? ESD/ALSA/OSS?
[10:40] <occy> funkyHat, heh, feel free to help him then. :P
[10:40] <funkyHat> hehehehehej
[10:40] <funkyHat> don824chan, ok then, click applications > system tools > terminal
[10:40] <depine> im using alsa..
[10:40] <fak3r> hi, just did a fresh breezy install - sound works, sound works on all of my games, save for Quake2 (worked in Hoary)
[10:40] <don824chan> I don't see that either funkyHat
[10:40] <occy> funkyHat, he can also hit:  alt+f2
[10:40] <don824chan> Theres no Terminal in System Tools
[10:40] <occy> funkyHat, and type in:    gnome-terminal
[10:40] <funkyHat> don824chan, are you using ubuntu, or kubuntu?
[10:41] <don824chan> Ubuntu
[10:41] <tucoz> depine, I think you could try alsamixer in a terminal
[10:41] <Utopiate> hehehe... e17 rox...
[10:41] <bitkrom> can windowsxp be installed on fat32 with a sata drive? or only ntfs? I cant write to ntfs partitions from linux
[10:41] <don824chan> occy: i got it then
[10:41] <tucoz> and see if the levels for the different channels are ok
[10:41] <occy> don824chan, you get the term now?
[10:41] <funkyHat> don824chan, applications is top left... that's quite a useful menu to know the position of....... :/
[10:41] <don824chan> i get run application
[10:41] <DVSoftware> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_0.0.20050628-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:41] <DVSoftware> huh
[10:41] <nfinitep1astik> bitkrom: you can write to ntfs in linux....but it's experimental
[10:41] <don824chan> I know where applications is funkyHat
[10:41] <occy> don824chan, ahh now type:    gnome-terminal
[10:41] <don824chan> I know where system tools is
[10:42] <DaMi3n> what does int x(char *) do??
[10:42] <don824chan> There was no Terminal in system tools
[10:42] <bitkrom> nfinitep1astik: ok meaning it could screw up?
[10:42] <funkyHat> :S
[10:42] <Red_Bullet> how to create text file in console
[10:42] <Red_Bullet> ?
[10:42] <tucoz> gtg
[10:42] <don824chan> good
[10:42] <nfinitep1astik> bitkrom: meaning if you dont follow instructions to set it up correctly, you can screw you up your data
[10:42] <don824chan> now im in terminal
[10:42] <DVSoftware> Red_Bullet: pico for example
[10:42] <funkyHat> Red_Bullet, gedit *nameoffileyouwanttocreate*
[10:42] <occy> don824chan, cool beans
[10:42] <don824chan> dude
[10:42] <don824chan> lol
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> Red_Bullet, vim file
[10:42] <occy> don824chan, now you can type the commands you wanted.
[10:42] <don824chan> cool beans
[10:42] <don824chan> XD
[10:42] <occy> don824chan, :P~
[10:43] <ksmurf> Anyone have an idea why I can't get cdburnt with breezy?
[10:43] <fak3r> anyone have Q2 running w sound in Breezy?  over.
[10:43] <jc-denton> humm
[10:43] <CookedGryphon> Red_Bullet, (press i to go into insert mode then esc and type :wq to save)
[10:43] <jc-denton> i sill have the same firefox icon
[10:43] <FR500> how would i do a VPN in linux?
[10:43] <occy> don824chan, at least I don't say lol
[10:43] <jc-denton> i tought u changed that
[10:43] <jc-denton> :(
[10:43] <occy> heh
[10:43] <occy> ;)
[10:43] <Red_Bullet> pico is the easyest
[10:43] <Red_Bullet> :)
[10:43] <bitkrom> nfinitep1astik: how deep does that go as far as understanding?
[10:43] <Red_Bullet> i will work with pico
[10:43] <Red_Bullet> :)
[10:43] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[10:44] <DVSoftware> strange
[10:44] <nfinitep1astik> bitkrom: someone has posted a link to instructions to set it up correctly, but i dont have it on me at the moment
[10:44] <don824chan> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:44] <don824chan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:44] <don824chan> is only available from another source
[10:44] <don824chan> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[10:44] <bitkrom> nfinitep1astik: ok
[10:44] <DVSoftware> don824chan: 64bit?
[10:44] <don824chan> 64bit what
[10:44] <DVSoftware> ubuntu
[10:44] <don824chan> uh
[10:44] <don824chan> dunno
[10:45] <funkyHat> we'll assume no then ;)
[10:45] <don824chan> I'm sorry I'm really only window's savvy
[10:45] <DVSoftware> huh
[10:45] <don824chan> windows
[10:45] <DVSoftware> you dunno if you have 64bit machine?
[10:45] <don824chan> its a POS
[10:45] <funkyHat> DVSoftware, that pretty much means he doesn't
[10:45] <don824chan> i dragged it out of the trash practically
[10:45] <DVSoftware> and pos is?
[10:45] <luder> DVSoftware, if he doesnt know, he probably dosent
[10:45] <funkyHat> point of sale
[10:45] <don824chan> Piece Of S***
[10:45] <funkyHat> haha
[10:45] <luder> lol funkyHat
[10:46] <DaMi3n> what does int x(char *) do
[10:46] <DVSoftware> why my network isn't accessible from chroot?
[10:46] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with ppc hardware experience be able to help me with an alsa issue?
[10:47] <don824chan> so what do i do?
[10:47] <solidgroove> i had problem with kubuntu im going to use ubuntu gnome is better
[10:48] <don824chan> Can anyone help me?
[10:48] <luder> don824chan, what is it your trying to do again?
[10:48] <Utopiate> help with what don824chan?
[10:48] <don824chan> Somone told me to install wine
[10:48] <occy> don824chan, whhy did you install wine?
[10:48] <mohkohn> Just installed Breezy. All went well.
[10:49] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with ppc hardware experience be able to help me with an alsa issue?
[10:49] <don824chan> me@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[10:49] <don824chan> Password:
[10:49] <don824chan> Reading package lists... Done
[10:49] <don824chan> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:49] <don824chan> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:49] <don824chan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:49] <don824chan> is only available from another source
[10:49] <don824chan> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[10:49] <occy> don824chan, please use patsebin.com for pasting
[10:49] <occy> don824chan, not the irc channel
[10:49] <DVSoftware> !info wine
[10:49] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[10:49] <Quinthius> don824chan: are you using breezy or hoary?
[10:49] <don824chan> sorry
[10:49] <DVSoftware> enable universe
[10:49] <don824chan> uh
[10:49] <mohkohn> Is this a correct backport for breezy:...
[10:49] <Red_Bullet> can i load a text file in irssi with commands which i neet to do
[10:49] <DVSoftware> !repositiries
[10:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, DVSoftware
[10:49] <don824chan> newest one whichever
[10:49] <occy> DVSoftware, heh
[10:49] <DVSoftware> !repositories
[10:49] <ubotu> repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:49] <mohkohn> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:49] <occy> DVSoftware, ;)
[10:50] <luder> don824chan, what are you going to use wine for, games?
[10:50] <don824chan> yes
[10:50] <luder> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[10:50] <Utopiate> cedega
[10:50] <Red_Bullet> can i load a text file in irssi with commands which i need to do
[10:50] <Quinthius> don824chan: you dont know which cd you downloaded to install with? was it a "preview" cd?
[10:50] <luder> im literally compiling it right now
[10:50] <don824chan> i burnt the CD
[10:50] <don824chan> i just took the newest one
[10:50] <luder> use that guide, its easy as pie
[10:50] <don824chan> I don't know which
[10:50] <vicent> hellooo
[10:50] <Red_Bullet> can i load a text file in irssi with commands which i need to do
[10:50] <Red_Bullet> please
[10:50] <Red_Bullet> help
[10:51] <Quinthius> don824chan: look in applications -> accessories for terminal. that's where it is in breezy
[10:51] <Utopiate> Red_Bullet... you using a gui?
[10:51] <Red_Bullet> i don't know what is gui
[10:51] <Red_Bullet> :((
[10:51] <xlogik> Is it possible to install ubuntu from the 5.04 livecd?
[10:51] <winner> xlogik: should be.
[10:51] <Utopiate> a window manager, gnome kde
[10:52] <DVSoftware> graphical user interface
[10:52] <don824chan> This is too confusing
[10:52] <Red_Bullet> Utopiate: i'am in console
[10:52] <Red_Bullet> without X
[10:52] <xlogik> winner: can ya point me to where i can find this info
[10:52] <shadesofsteve> xlogik, can't install Ubuntu from the LiveCD
[10:52] <DVSoftware> don824chan: give it 2 weeks
[10:52] <Utopiate> Red_Bullet: alt-f2 to open another terminal and alt-f1 to get back to this one...
[10:53] <Red_Bullet> yes
[10:53] <Red_Bullet> but
[10:53] <Red_Bullet> i ask how to load a commands in irssi
[10:53] <luder> don824chan, are you referring to the link i sent?
[10:53] <don824chan> yeah
[10:53] <don824chan> well all of this linux stuff anyway
[10:53] <xlogik> hmm?
[10:53] <luder> don824chan, yeah, i know, im still pretty much a newb
[10:53] <Utopiate> Red_Bullet: /h should tell you
[10:53] <luder> and ive been using linux on and off for a year
[10:53] <DVSoftware> i told you don824chan give it 2 weeks
[10:53] <don824chan> What does it mean by download the script here?
[10:53] <don824chan> I know
[10:54] <don824chan> But still
[10:54] <luder> don824chan, just right click and save as
[10:54] <DVSoftware> and yo'll forget about windows stupidity
[10:54] <don824chan> The only reason I installed it is so I could learn to use linux
[10:54] <luder> just like you'd download a file inw indows
[10:54] <marccd> What happened to the mysql init script, recent versions have messed with it, and now it asks for password
[10:54] <jc-denton> ubuntu does not support mp3 by default?
[10:54] <mohkohn> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/breezy-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:54] <jc-denton> also not for listening?
[10:55] <luder> jc-denton, i dont think so, i downloaded the packages on http://www.ubuntuguide.org to get mine working
[10:55] <DVSoftware> and yes, don824chan, do not use windows while learning linux
[10:55] <mohkohn> Does that mean I should use the hoary backports for a few weeks?
[10:55] <Utopiate> blah
[10:55] <jc-denton> hrmm
[10:55] <jc-denton> why not?
[10:55] <Quinthius> mohkohn: i don't think there IS any breezy backports yet
[10:55] <luder> jc-denton, under multimedia codecs
[10:55] <jc-denton> encoding is non free
[10:55] <luder> jc-denton, i think its propietary
[10:55] <bitkrom> anyoen have a problem with mplayerplugin?
[10:55] <jc-denton> decoding is free
[10:55] <don824chan> DVSoftware: thats about physically impossible at the moment
[10:55] <don824chan> DVSoftware: I'm on my schools help desk
[10:56] <DVSoftware> why?
[10:56] <don824chan> I fix computers
[10:56] <don824chan> and all the computers in my school are windows
[10:56] <DVSoftware> ahh
[10:56] <don824chan> ergo...
[10:56] <luder> jc-denton, the mpeg codec on that link i sent should get mp3s working
[10:56] <jc-denton> and a pdf viewer is missing too :(
[10:56] <jc-denton> looks too much like alpha for me
[10:56] <mohkohn> Quinthius, I think you are right. Just found the backports forum
[10:56] <DVSoftware> don824chan: then try to avoid win
[10:56] <abydos> is there an ETA for amarok-1.3 packages in hoary, if ever?
[10:57] <don824chan> DVSoftware: I guess
[10:57] <luder> DVSoftware, that might be hard for him to do
[10:57] <DVSoftware> luder: it's worth
[10:57] <moparfan90> hello. i have my digital camara conected to my computer via usb. how do i save and look at the pics?
[10:57] <luder> DVSoftware, i agree
[10:57] <luder> w00t, done compiling cegeda
[10:57] <MrBear> hi people
[10:57] <abydos> moparfan90:  check out gtkam, kamera
[10:57] <DVSoftware> the best way to switch to linux
[10:57] <DVSoftware> is to isolate from win
[10:57] <abydos> moparfan90:  kooka also does it iirc
[10:57] <Quinthius> don824chan: do you have Terminal under the Applications -> Accessories menu?
[10:57] <snausages> how can i add serch engines to firefox? whenever i try from the 'add engines' menu, it doesn't work
[10:58] <cmussel> When I boot on an HP Vectra PII, it says it does not like the PNPBIOS
[10:58] <MrBear> can someone help me get my sound working
[10:58] <cmussel> it suggests I use pnpbios=off
[10:58] <luder> DVSoftware, yeah, but when you work with Windows, its hard
[10:58] <arthur> wow, my first time in IRC
[10:58] <don824chan> QuinthiusL yes
[10:58] <occy> don824chan, this is just my opinion, and granted, I'm biased as I've been running Linux 100% since 96',  I would suggest, if it's possible, to get a computer and try and use it full time as a Linux machine.  Try and do things "The Linux Way"  and you'll be surprised how easy things are after a few weeks.  It is hard and does take time adjusting.
[10:58] <jc-denton> and beagle is broken
[10:58] <don824chan> Quinthius: yes*
[10:58] <abydos> cmussel:  then disable the PNP function.  Typically ISAPNP is a recipe for disaster, in my experience
[10:58] <arthur> Alright, so I'm pumped, I have just installed Kubuntu, I boot it up, it loads just right, and when xserver starts, my monitor goes into standby.
[10:58] <arthur> 
[10:58] <arthur> Bummer. I know xserver has loaded because I type a username and password and it starts churning again. I believe it's a refresh rate thing, but I'm having trouble getting any setting to work (tried fiddling in xorg.conf, but I'm not too sure if it's the monitor or the video card that's causing the problem). I have an ATI Radeon All-in-Wonder X-600 and a Gateway FPD1500 LCD display.
[10:58] <arthur> 
[10:58] <jc-denton> its not broken on debian unstable
[10:58] <arthur> Any ideas so I can see the magic that is Kubuntu?
[10:58] <jc-denton> hrmm
[10:59] <michael> need help
[10:59] <Quinthius> don824chan: ok, you are most likely using Breezy then, which is a preview/beta release of the next version. most instructions on how to set things up are for Hoary, so changes may be needed
[10:59] <occy> don824chan, I understand how all your machines there are windows based though.
[10:59] <don824chan> I see...
[10:59] <abydos> arthur:  try setting a very wide frequency variation in xorg.conf
[10:59] <MrBear> anybody
[10:59] <arthur> such as?
[10:59] <occy> Quinthius, ahh, I was thinking that might have been the case.
[10:59] <don824chan> I practically run a buisness off of fixing peoples computers
[10:59] <cmussel> Yes, this is a machine that wants windows 95
[10:59] <DVSoftware> don824chan: after few weeks using linux, you'll laugh at windows
[10:59] <michael> pls i just installed ubuntu on a windows based system on a 15 GB partition drive and cant boot up windwos xp and cant see my files help!!!!!
[10:59] <asasas> Somebody install Gambas Sucesseful in Ubumtu ?????. Gambas (It almost Visual Basic) for programing
[11:00] <occy> don824chan, yes, you want the stable "hoary" version of Ubuntu.
[11:00] <don824chan> And no one that uses Linux needs somone else to fix their computers
[11:00] <arthur> you mean for the vertical and horizontal sync, right, abydos?
[11:00] <michael>  after few weeks using linux, you'll laugh at windows xp and cant see my files
[11:00] <occy> don824chan, breezy or "the latest one"  is ultra bleeding edge and known not to work (as it's a test bed)
[11:00] <abydos> arthur:  horizontal of 30-65 on my box
[11:00] <don824chan> Occy: then how do i downgrade?
[11:00] <michael> how do i boot up windows xp
[11:00] <occy> don824chan, Shoot bud, I've used Linux since 96, and I ALWAYS need help with my computer.
[11:00] <occy> hehe
[11:00] <abydos> arthur:  the monitor will ignore the frequencies it can't use and use the good one
[11:00] <don824chan> heh
[11:01] <don824chan> nevermind then
[11:01] <occy> don824chan, you need to get the right CD and install.  I can find the cd for you.
[11:01] <don824chan> I'm more of a hardware person
[11:01] <don824chan> well dang, I gota burn another CD
[11:01] <arthur> ok, cool deal. how's 30-61 hor and 56-76 vert?
[11:01] <occy> don824chan, the ddifference is, with Linux, there is always someone to help with Linux
[11:01] <michael> pls help me
[11:01] <occy> don824chan, with Windows.... not the case.
[11:01] <abydos> occy:  his point was probably that since windows has more market share it's useful to learn it if you wish to repair
[11:01] <michael> cant boot up windows xp
[11:01] <luder> don824chan, oh no! gotta burn another 30 cent cd-r :-P
[11:01] <occy> abydos, yup
[11:01] <don824chan> Thats not it
[11:01] <don824chan> its the time it takes
[11:01] <luder> don824chan, yeah, im just teasin
[11:01] <abydos> occy:  but noone said vmware was an invalid option
[11:01] <don824chan> It costs me more than 30 cents and 30 minutes
[11:02] <Quinthius> don824chan: as "linux on the desktop" becomes more popular, as ubuntu seems to be making it, there will be a lot more "not as computer savvy" people using linux who will need just as much computer help as windows users :P
[11:02] <occy> abydos, :/  it's not a cheap option. :)
[11:02] <MrBear> can someone help me with my sound
[11:02] <abydos> occy:  I wouldn't know, I've never actually legally paid for it
[11:02] <LasseL> do you know if it is possible to resize reiserfs partitions?
[11:02] <luder> Quinthius, i feel sorry for all the linux gurus that will have to put up with us newbs
[11:02] <occy> don824chan, I'm on pretty much all the time, if  you ever need any help with something feel free to msg me.
[11:02] <don824chan> I also heard that not all laptops can hold Ubuntu?
[11:02] <occy> don824chan, I'm not the smartest guy here, but I do know some stuff.
[11:02] <don824chan> occy: thanks
[11:02] <luder> oh yeah, that reminds me
[11:02] <occy> don824chan, I'm a graphics guy, and use Linux to do graphics:   occy.net <-- my site
[11:02] <occy> ;)
[11:02] <luder> my laptop will no except my ubuntu cd
[11:02] <DVSoftware> don824chan: use linux and take money from windows ppl
[11:03] <DVSoftware> simple
[11:03] <luder> it just yells at it
[11:03] <michael> pls god damm it u guys screwed my comp\
[11:03] <luder> michael, whats your problem?
[11:03] <don824chan> i thought I saw a website like www.linux-on-laptops.org or something to that effect
[11:03] <occy> michael, heh, eas on the language.
[11:03] <abydos> don824chan:  there are significant problems with those lightweight Sony Vaios that use firewire for the CD-ROM drive... linux booting of firewire-based CD-ROMs is rather rudimentary at best
[11:03] <don824chan> Well I use an oldschool Dell Latitude CPx
[11:03] <DVSoftware> my laptop works perfectly :grin:
[11:03] <abydos> don824chan:  apparently once you get it installed it's fine, but...
[11:04] <Gnonthgol> should have a language corecting bot here
[11:04] <SymGeosis> don824chan, most old school equipment is supported.
[11:04] <Quinthius> luder: hehe no kidding (sorry, slow response :P
[11:04] <don824chan> cool
[11:04] <SymGeosis> don824chan, however, you might have a problem with ATI cards and the like.
[11:04] <don824chan> hmm
[11:04] <michael> U GUYS TOLD ME I SWEAR TO GOD IF INSTALL Ubuntu ON A PARTITIONED DRIVE I COULD STILL BOOT UP WINDOWS XP NOW IM SCREWED GOD DAMM IT
[11:04] <abydos> I had a toshiba tecra 8000 once, but its power connector came de-soldered from the motherboard... those things are tanks to try to take apart btw
[11:04] <SymGeosis> michael, you can.
[11:05] <don824chan> Are you duel partitioned?
[11:05] <michael> WELL THAN TELL ME HOW PLS...much appreciated ok i can stop stressing
[11:05] <don824chan> or did you overwrite XP?
[11:05] <luder> michael, did you make partition the drives manually during the install, or did you let ubuntu do it?
[11:05] <thenuke> try booting XP with windows XP installation CD
[11:05] <michael> i did it mannually
[11:05] <Gnonthgol> I have tryed Ubuntu on a number of FS (in the shop) but had trouble with the CD-roms
[11:05] <abydos> hrm
[11:05] <michael> i made a 15Gb drive mannuyally
[11:06] <luder> and its not showing up on your boot loader?
[11:06] <luder> windows, that is
[11:06] <michael> wat boot loader
[11:06] <SymGeosis> michael, take a look at your /boot/menu.lst
[11:06] <luder> grub
[11:06] <abydos> I wonder how much space netbsd-hpcmips would require to have a loading X server and a web browser and a PDF viewer of some sort
[11:06] <Quinthius> michael: did you alter your windows partition at all?
[11:06] <SymGeosis> Modify the winxp example to fit your needs.
[11:06] <michael> no i made sure of that i didnt
[11:06] <don824chan> I'm gonna check to see if my server sees this computer
[11:06] <michael> god damm it my business is gone now
[11:06] <MrBear> can someone help me to get my sound working
[11:07] <michael> how do i see the boot loader
[11:07] <luder> michael, you see it when you first start up, it should give you an option to pick which OS you want to use
[11:07] <Quinthius> michael: no offense but you should always make backups of important data before messing around with repartitioning / installing new OS's
[11:07] <andril> hello all
[11:07] <SymGeosis> michael, sudo gedit /boot/menu.lst
[11:07] <luder> but you can check your boot menu
[11:07] <Gnonthgol> MrBear: are all the cables in?
[11:07] <andril> anyone running Breezy yet?
[11:07] <SymGeosis> michael, though make sure you back-up this config...
[11:07] <luder> SymGeosis, mines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:07] <Quinthius> andril: i am
[11:07] <MrBear> everything is all connected
[11:08] <andril> Quinthius, any issues?
[11:08] <SymGeosis> luder, thanks. Thats what I meant.
[11:08] <virgule> I want to redirect all applications/programs messages to a file I could tail -f from a xterm.. I seam to remember something like 2&>1 > filename.txt.. do I make sense for someone? Im talking about the messages one can read when launching a program/application from a terminal.. I want to redirect them all to a file I will tail -f..
[11:08] <andril> Quinthius: any issues?
[11:08] <Jemt> clear
[11:08] <Utopiate> uh... what's the command to start point2play? anyone...
[11:08] <Utopiate> heh
[11:08] <Quinthius> andril: no major ones i have come across. fglrx drivers don't seem to work (no fglrx module to be found), and ive heard cd writing is borked but havent tested that yet
[11:09] <luder> michael, did you look at your boot menu list?
[11:09] <SymGeosis> michael, the one thing that you need to know about grub is that it doesn't label the drives like linux.
[11:09] <andril> Quinthius: did you do a fresh install or upgrade?
[11:09] <Quinthius> andril: there's a few errors in the bootup text... "Initializing modules" and "Setting console font" both fail, but the system still seems to function fine
[11:09] <Quinthius> andril: fresh install
[11:09] <grimse> HiddenFly, is there a way to use wpa_supplicant with cisco's airo-driver?
[11:09] <Utopiate> dammned caps
[11:09] <grimse> ups
[11:10] <michael> sudo gedit /boot/menu.lst wats that mean
[11:10] <luder> michael, open a terminal
[11:10] <don824chan> I don't know how to add files to the network
[11:10] <Quinthius> andril: i should note that while "initializing modules" fails, the "loading modules" that comes almost right after, succeeds... dunno what the diff is
[11:10] <andril> Quinthius: cool - I guess I'll wait till it's final and go from there - Thanks for the Info! :)
[11:10] <LasseL> if I repartition the partition that grub is on will it be deleted too?
[11:10] <SymGeosis> michael, I meant in the terminal type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <luder> michael, then type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <moparfan90> ok when i run the program pida i have to do it in terminal. how do i close the terminal after that with out closing the program
[11:10] <moparfan90> ?
[11:10] <transparentdream> Alright, finally got my printer working, how do I get ubuntu to start both HPOJ and HPIJS at startup?
[11:11] <andril> Quinthius: probaly kins that will disappear once it's final
[11:11] <SymGeosis> transparentdream, if you installed them from the repos they should start up auto-magically.
[11:11] <Quinthius> andril: yea thats what i assume... just work-in-progress stuff
[11:11] <michael> then wat do i do after that
[11:11] <don824chan> wow how do I log in as root?
[11:11] <occy> don824chan, heh, we went over this.
[11:11] <michael> ive opend the terminal
[11:11] <don824chan> we did?
[11:11] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[11:11] <occy> don824chan, You don't log in as root.
[11:11] <don824chan> Lemme look up
[11:11] <luder> michael, ok, now type what we said
[11:11] <transparentdream> SymGeosis, well the both came from sourceforge...thats what the instructions said
[11:11] <don824chan> ok...
[11:11] <michael> yeh done that
[11:12] <occy> don824chan, you sudo to root.
[11:12] <michael> now wat
[11:12] <don824chan> i see
[11:12] <don824chan> wait no i don't
[11:12] <occy> don824chan, logging in as root is BAD, as it is a security risk.
[11:12] <MrBear> I got a soundblaster live 24bit how do I get it to work
[11:12] <SymGeosis> transparentdream, it's easiest if you just install them from the repos.
[11:12] <erUSUL> moparfan90, nohup <program>
[11:12] <Quinthius> don824chan: there's no need to "log in" as root, any commands you would need to do as root, you can preclude with "sudo". or if you want an interactive root shell, run "sudo -H -s"
[11:12] <luder> then did gedit open?
[11:12] <occy> don824chan, you need to nuke your current Ubuntu install and grab the right CD.
[11:12] <michael> done typin now wat
[11:12] <moparfan90> erUSULok
[11:12] <michael> ??
[11:12] <don824chan> :(
[11:12] <moparfan90> erUSUL, ok thanks
[11:12] <luder> michael, did you press enter?
[11:12] <occy> don824chan, you are using a testing verison that isn't mean for mass consumption.
[11:12] <jroes> anyone know why I can't apt-get install emacs?  It says that it's not available but is referred to by another package... ?
[11:12] <MrBear> hello>
[11:12] <Quinthius> luder: haha....
[11:12] <transparentdream> SymGeosis, I know that, but is there a way I can leave my install like  it is without having to un- and reinstall these programs?
[11:12] <don824chan> Well ok
[11:12] <occy> don824chan, the new cd will be much better bud
[11:12] <turkey_joe> do have to edit xorg inorder for the nvidia driver to work??
[11:13] <luder> Quinthius, well, just to be sure... lol
[11:13] <michael> yes all this stuff came up i typed my pass in too
[11:13] <Gnonthgol> russ: I have a SB Live! It does not work but I get sound from the mic
[11:13] <luder> ok
[11:13] <occy> don824chan, I can find the URL for you if you want.
[11:13] <don824chan> i know where to find it
[11:13] <don824chan> I just really don't want to have to go through the installation process again
[11:13] <michael> now wat do i do all this writing came up
[11:13] <SymGeosis> transparentdream, you probably can with -divert from dpkg but that would be highly unrecommended.
[11:13] <luder> michael, read through that file, it should say Windows XP somewhere
[11:13] <don824chan> because it took around 2 hours
[11:13] <SymGeosis> # title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[11:13] <luder> michael, or whatever it is you're running
[11:13] <SymGeosis> michael, that is what you are looking for.
[11:13] <occy> don824chan, are you in the US?
[11:13] <don824chan> yes
[11:14] <occy> don824chan, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[11:14] <erUSUL> moparfan90, i was mistaken that will no work sorry
[11:14] <don824chan> I don't have a burner on this computer
[11:14] <SymGeosis> luder, michael it might be better if we took this to a less busy channel...
[11:14] <occy> don824chan, go to the site, ubuntulinux.org  , and then click on downloads,  scroll down.
[11:14] <MrBear> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:14] <moparfan90> ok
[11:14] <erUSUL> :(
[11:14] <Red_Bullet> this irssi can not load text file with commands
[11:14] <michael> yes pls
[11:14] <luder> SymGeosis, i agree
[11:14] <occy> don824chan, where did you burn the original disk?
[11:14] <michael> wat channel i go to
[11:14] <don824chan> on my laptop
[11:14] <SymGeosis> michael, #sym
[11:14] <occy> don824chan, do you have your laptop with you?
[11:14] <don824chan> its in another room
[11:14] <don824chan> and i'm too lazy
[11:14] <occy> don824chan, heh, :P
[11:14] <Red_Bullet> this irssi can not load text file with commands
[11:15] <dan_> hi all, I have a question about running mozilla on ubuntu, can anyone help me out??
[11:15] <Red_Bullet> are anybody knows ??
[11:15] <transparentdream> SymGeosis, ok. I really don;t want to do that. How can I remove the package that I put in then? See, HPOJ starts, but HPLIP doesn;t...(not hpijs, that's the driver) I need HPLIP in order to use the USB with my printer. There's not a simple startup file I can edit to make it just run hplip?
[11:15] <Red_Bullet> command to load
[11:15] <don824chan> so Hoary good
[11:15] <occy> jdub, you there?
[11:15] <FR500> how would i do a linux to linux VPN?
[11:15] <virgule> I want to redirect all applications/programs messages to a file I could tail -f from a xterm.. I seam to remember something like 2&>1 > filename.txt.. do I make sense for someone? Im talking about the messages one can read when launching a program/application from a terminal.. I want to redirect them all to a file I will tail -f.. how do I accomplish this?
[11:15] <don824chan> well I guess I have a list of things to do now
[11:15] <andril> Quinthius: sorry was disconnected
[11:16] <Red_Bullet> ! tell Red_Bullet about irssi
[11:16] <ubotu> Red_Bullet: Are you on ritalin?
[11:16] <don824chan> Goodbye Ubuntu users
[11:16] <transparentdream> bye don
[11:16] <Red_Bullet> !irssi
[11:16] <ubotu> somebody said irssi was http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[11:16] <Red_Bullet>  http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[11:16] <ColonelKernel> breezy kernel works nicely
[11:16] <occy> that is a suck that someone went through and their experience was the breezy disk
[11:16] <turkey_joe> do have to edit xorg inorder for the nvidia driver to work??
[11:16] <Quinthius> andril: ah hehe
[11:16] <occy> :/
[11:16] <dalamar> breezy is fun, whats linux if somethings not broken and needs fixed ;)
[11:17] <occy> dalamar, that is soooo not the ubuntu way.
[11:17] <dalamar> thats the linux way
[11:17] <dalamar> its called progress
[11:17] <occy> I was attraccted to Ubuntu because it is new, but it's stable.
[11:17] <LasseL> go back to #gentoo you demon
[11:17] <occy> LasseL, heh
[11:17] <dalamar> haha ;)
[11:17] <transparentdream> lmao
[11:17] <Quinthius> occy: well, i agree, but at the same time, people should read and pay attention :P
[11:17] <MrBear> can someone help me with my sound for the love of god
[11:17] <occy> Quinthius, true
[11:18] <andril> Quinthius: later
[11:18] <Quinthius> andril: later!
[11:18] <dalamar> theres no such thing as fool proof thats for sure
[11:18] <topyli> oh my. i just had to burn a cd with mkisofs/cdrecord. haven't done that in a long time, had to check the man pages :)
[11:18] <occy> Quinthius, but... we want to do things that bring people into our community, not exclude them, and if that means protecting the dummies from themselves as much as possible, then I'm all for it.
[11:18] <occy> heh
[11:18] <occy> topyli, heh
[11:19] <Daemonic> is there an easy fix for totem not being able to play /any/ media file format? something I can apt-get perhaps?
[11:19] <benplaut> \msg ubotu breezy
[11:19] <topyli> occy: yeah, nautilus-cd-burner seems b0rken
[11:19] <benplaut> darn double slashes :P
[11:19] <sean_> hello everyone :)
[11:19] <occy> :)
[11:19] <luder> Daemonic, http://ubuntuguide.org gives you apt-get lists for all the codecs you need
[11:19] <dalamar> topyli, k3b is your friend for a frontend for that (mkisofs etc)
[11:19] <topyli> benplaut: windows habits
[11:19] <virgule> how do I restart a daemon?
[11:19] <sean_> is there a default root password?
[11:19] <benplaut> topyli, i've been away from windows for almost a year, but still...
[11:19] <hybrid_goth> sean_: no
[11:19] <hybrid_goth> sean_: root is turned off
[11:20] <hybrid_goth> use sudo and your password
[11:20] <sean_> ohhh
[11:20] <Daemonic> luder: so I just need some codecs?
[11:20] <dan_> hi all, I have a question about running firefox on ubuntu, can anyone help me out??
[11:20] <virgule> how do I restart a daemon ?(restart syslogd)
[11:20] <occy> sean_, you can get to root by doing:   sudo su -    (as your user)
[11:20] <topyli> dalamar: nope, gnomebaker is. =) but it wouldn't work either. it's a device permission bug
[11:20] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[11:20] <occy> sean_, you'll get to the full root account you know and love. ;)
[11:20] <luder> Daemonic, I had the same problem, and installing all the codecs under "Multimedia Codecs" fixed em
[11:20] <dalamar> topyli, bah, gnomebaker ;) i understand though
[11:20] <erUSUL> virgule, /etc/init.d/<service> restart
[11:20] <sean_> I see... I ran Gentoo and used root pretty darn often :-D
[11:20] <occy> sean_, nod, just don't log into X as root
[11:20] <sean_> I started in Linspire, then did a Gentoo system from Stage 1 (lots of work), and am enjoying my first day of Ubuntu now
[11:21] <Daemonic> luder: thanks
[11:21] <sean_> I've been Linuxing for like 2.5 years now
[11:21] <occy> sean_, hehe, welcome to the club.
[11:21] <Gobbla> i get a kernel panic when loading the module GLcore in xorg.conf... any idea why?
[11:21] <sean_> thanks occy :)
[11:21] <occy> hmmm
[11:21] <hybrid_goth> lol
[11:21] <dalamar> gentoo is for people that arent lazy, and i am not in that category ;)
[11:21] <luder> sean_, ive used a lot of distros, i find ubuntu to be my favorite
[11:21] <luder> yet i still consider myself a newb
[11:22] <sean_> I liked Gentoo's speed, but I'm poorly organized, and all my scripts got tangled when I tried to do an upgrade :(
[11:22] <sean_> once Gentoo runs, it runs BLAZIN', but it's really really tough to set yourself up for easy upgrades
[11:22] <dalamar> always something to learn in linux
[11:22] <occy> dalamar, nod
[11:22] <sean_> my problem was i upgraded the kernel, LOL
[11:22] <hybrid_goth> sean_: i thout it was emerge -o world or something
[11:22] <sean_> then things stopped working ahha
[11:23] <sean_> I did an emerge -o world! but I had compiled things outside of emerge...
[11:23] <occy> dalamar, I've been using it for 9 years now (sept 96' I nuked windows and haven't looked back)
[11:23] <sean_> i.e. tar xvjf something.tar.bz2; make; make install
[11:23] <jtan325> has anyone ever had the problem where azureus just hangs on the splash screen, and doesn't ever get past the splash screen?
[11:23] <cute_bettong> ok i need some serious help
[11:23] <cute_bettong> something is wrong with something called ICE
[11:23] <cute_bettong> and ubuntu logs me out after 10 seconds of use
[11:23] <cute_bettong> can someone help me?
[11:23] <sean_> ICE? intuition: you're using Kubuntu?
[11:23] <luder> jtan325, i had a problem with Limewire, did you install java runtime?
[11:23] <dalamar> im a student myself and frankly dont have the money for windows
[11:24] <occy> dalamar, ahhh
[11:24] <cute_bettong> no i'm using ubuntu breezy
[11:24] <sean_> me too =D
[11:24] <jtan325> luder, yes
[11:24] <MrBear> Can someone help me with my sound PLEASE
[11:24] <cute_bettong> and something happend when i rebooted the computer
[11:24] <sean_> MrBear, what is your sound card?
[11:24] <jtan325> i had azureus working through yesterday
[11:24] <erUSUL> cute_bettong, problemas with k3b?
[11:24] <occy> cute_bettong, Is this your first experienace with Linux?
[11:24] <MrBear> soundblaster live 24bit
[11:24] <jtan325> and then i tried to get stuff installed for eclipse
[11:24] <luder> jtan325, oh, i see
[11:24] <jtan325> i didin't do anything crazy thouhg
[11:24] <cute_bettong> and i had to use irssi first time
[11:24] <cute_bettong> i don't know
[11:24] <sean_> MrBear, does it have a digital output, and are you using the analog output?
[11:24] <jtan325> no compiling from source or isntalling .deb's manually
[11:24] <MrBear> analog
[11:25] <cute_bettong> i just know that something is stopping me from getting into the desktop
[11:25] <Myr> has anyone compiled wesnoth .9.7 successfully on breezy?
[11:25] <giard> is it normal in breezy for glxgears to not give fps and to go slower than before?
[11:25] <cyphase> does anyone know of a program that can take music and convert it into the format used by most cd players (001TrackName.mp3, less then 32 charachters)?
[11:25] <sean_> MrBear, Have you checked to see if the digital output switch is enabled
[11:25] <MrBear> dont know how I am 2 days old in linux
[11:25] <cute_bettong> i even tryed logging in under the gui's trouble shooting mode
[11:25] <dan_> has anyone run into a 'connection was refused when attempting to connect to . . .' error when trying to go to any website using firefox in ubuntu?
[11:25] <sean_> MrBear, ok I'll show you - but can we go into another channel that's not so crowded? arrgg
[11:25] <cute_bettong> and it wont it just gives me the same error
[11:25] <MrBear> thank you for answering me sean just pm me
[11:26] <sean_> MrBear, ok how do I do that, I haven't used IRC in years =D
[11:26] <MrBear> lol double click my name
[11:26] <occy> crimsun, time for dinner now.  I'll be back in a bit.  The question I have is, how can I completely purge my kernel and re-install it.  I need to have my kerenl and firmware stuff all back to the original install state.   (I upgraded my wireless firmware -- http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414  {trying to undo all that})
[11:26] <dalamar>  /msg putusernamehere hi!
[11:26] <MrBear> are you using xchat
[11:26] <sean_> yes
[11:26] <sean_> Can I open up another window with just you in it?
[11:26] <MrBear> right click my nick and open dialog window
[11:26] <chavo> cute_bettong, you on breezy?
[11:26] <sean_> I got it
[11:26] <sean_> thanks =D
[11:27] <sean_> messaging privately now
[11:27] <cute_bettong> chavo yes
[11:27] <chavo> did you reboot since you upgraded?
[11:27] <cute_bettong> in irssi cause the gui won't let me get in
[11:27] <cute_bettong> yes
[11:27] <cute_bettong> i installed fresh
[11:27] <cute_bettong> using an iso cd from the ubuntu website
[11:27] <cute_bettong> it has been working fine for 3 days
[11:28] <mohkohn> cute_bettong, I just come into this conversation. I had a similar problem with gnome. Using that failsafe shell try "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"
[11:28] <chavo> cute_bettong, do this -> ls -la /tmp
[11:28] <chavo> and paste the line with .ICE-unix/ in it
[11:28] <cute_bettong> ok how i have text only and one monitor
[11:28] <sean_> MrBear, you haven't gotten a message from me yet MrBear? I have you in a window
[11:28] <cute_bettong> and i am using irssi
[11:28] <MrBear> just type in that window
[11:28] <chavo> cute_bettong, hit alt-F2 to log in on another vty
[11:28] <sean_> I was O_O
[11:28] <mohkohn> Ignore me. You have a different problem
[11:29] <MrBear> wierd I got nothing
[11:29] <cute_bettong> ls -la /tmp
[11:29] <chavo> then alt-F1 to get back
[11:29] <[t0rc] > I typed did all the system updates for my 64b install of ubuntu, and now I get this when trying to boot: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)                                                   any fixes or do I just need to suck it up and reformat?
[11:29] <MrBear> let me try DCC
[11:29] <cute_bettong> ok it's not working
[11:29] <MrBear> lag maybe
[11:30] <cute_bettong> i hit alt f2 and nothing happens
[11:30] <cute_bettong> >.<
[11:30] <cute_bettong> damnit i wish i was smarter with linux
[11:30] <dan_> has anyone run into a 'connection was refused when attempting to connect to . . .' error when trying to go to any website using firefox in ubuntu?
[11:30] <cute_bettong> do i have to leave irssi?
[11:30] <dan_> I am unable to view any web sites but I have internet connectivity
[11:30] <Myr> has anyone compiled wesnoth .9.7 successfully on breezy?
[11:30] <cute_bettong> u can't get you the info you need
[11:31] <cute_bettong> when i hit altf2 nothing happens
[11:31] <dalamar> ctrl alt f2
[11:31] <cute_bettong> nope
[11:31] <kailer> what the hell is wrong with my ndiswapper install ? i did evrything the wiki said but i keep geting the fallowing when i modprobe it
[11:31] <kailer> root@Shinra:/var/log# modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:31] <kailer> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[11:31] <solidgroove> does breezy preview have problems compiling
[11:31] <cute_bettong> something is very wrong here
[11:31] <solidgroove> anything
[11:31] <MrBear> sean_ still alive?
[11:31] <cute_bettong> brb
[11:32] <Myr> solidgroove. im having a lot of compile problems as well
[11:32] <cute_bettong> i think i have to leave irssi i am in safe mode right now
[11:32] <DVSoftware> why my network isn't accessible from chroot?
[11:32] <cute_bettong> and have text only
[11:32] <cute_bettong> could that be why it dosen't work?
[11:32] <MrBear> wow major lag
[11:33] <cute_bettong> brb
[11:33] <xhaker> breezy: why does skype look all black?
[11:33] <wendallsan> has anyone run into a 'connection was refused when attempting to connect to . . .' error when trying to go to any website using firefox in ubuntu?
[11:33] <wendallsan> I am unable to view any web sites but I have internet connectivity
[11:34] <cyphase> wendallsan, is your hard drive full?
[11:34] <ubuntu> how do u view old files
[11:34] <wendallsan> no, fresh install of hoary on a 20gb hd
[11:34] <cyphase> hmm
[11:34] <ubuntu> and my other drives
[11:34] <MrBear> I bought a new 200g drive
[11:35] <wendallsan> I am on a dhcp network and can ping my router and external websites, but am getting the 'connection refused' error any time I try to view a web site in firefox
[11:35] <wendallsan> otherwise all other network related apps seem to be working fine
[11:36] <Myr> wendallsan: are you behind a proxy, or is firefox set to be behind one?
[11:37] <MrBear> sean_where are you
[11:37] <wendallsan> if I am on a lan that other computers (some are other distros of linux even) are on w/o any problems, can I assume that I'm not behind a proxy??
[11:37] <wendallsan> checking my firefox proxy settings . . .
[11:38] <wendallsan> firefox proxy prefs are set to 'direct connection to the internet'
[11:39] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[11:39] <[t0rc] > whats the kernel included on the hoary 5.04 cd's?
[11:39] <zenrox> 2.6.10
[11:39] <[t0rc] > ty zenrox
[11:39] <zenrox> n/p
[11:39] <maxi> hi
[11:39] <zenrox> hello
[11:39] <zenrox> and welcome
[11:39] <maxi> thanks
[11:40] <maxi> what do you use for listening streamtuner radio ??
[11:40] <mili> hi.. can anyone tell me how to resize an extended partision when I got ext3 filesystems I dont want to delete in there?
[11:40] <turkey_joe> how can i get the nvidia driver working on ubuntu??
[11:40] <zenrox> turkey_joe,  breezy of hoary
[11:40] <zenrox> of=or
[11:40] <turkey_joe> breezy
[11:40] <HrdwrBoB> !nvidia
[11:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:40] <zenrox> ya
[11:40] <zenrox> that
[11:40] <topyli> why does beagle create so many zombie mono processes?
[11:40] <turkey_joe> kool
[11:41] <MrBear> can someone help me configure my sound
[11:41] <solidgroove> what do you add to command line that installs gcc and development?
[11:41] <zenrox> i cant help you
[11:41] <muflo> hello
[11:42] <zenrox> solidgroove, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:42] <solidgroove> oh yeah build-essential
[11:42] <erUSUL> MrBear, what's the problem?
[11:42] <ttyS0> !repos
[11:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:42] <MrBear> sound is not working I dont know how to configure it
[11:42] <winner> i like portage.
[11:42] <soultaker> hello to all
[11:42] <winner> does anyone know how to get portage onto ubuntu?
[11:42] <ttyS0> !unofficial repos
[11:43] <soultaker> Can anyone help me with the LM-sensors
[11:43] <MrBear> erUSUL I have a soundblaster live 24-bit
[11:43] <muflo> does anyone know how to keep in sync the time you have in windows and the one in ubuntu?
[11:44] <soultaker> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=sensor <------- i just do some of the instrucctions here, i em Newby
[11:44] <erUSUL> MrBear, run alsamixer in a terminal
[11:44] <russ> muflo, why would you want to do that
[11:44] <MrBear> doesnt do anything
[11:45] <erUSUL> MrBear, error messages
[11:45] <erUSUL> ?
[11:45] <muflo> russ, windows keeps the time from system clock
[11:45] <MrBear> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:45] <erUSUL> MrBear, lsmod | grep snd
[11:45] <muflo> ubuntu applies offset
[11:45] <MrBear> ok done
[11:46] <juanfe> hello all
[11:46] <MrBear> now what
[11:46] <ttyS0> who can advise me any good app like partition magic but for ubuntu?
[11:46] <MrBear> hi juanfe
[11:46] <Kaaden> i need help i am at ...@ubuntu: $~ right now and i dont know what to do
[11:46] <thrush_2> partition magic
[11:46] <MrBear> wb sean_
[11:46] <erUSUL> tell me what is the output
[11:46] <erUSUL> if any
[11:46] <MrBear> none
[11:46] <MrBear> back to command line
[11:47] <jatos> hi
[11:47] <juanfe> are there an application like "everest home" for hardware detection?
[11:47] <jatos> anyone know if it is possible yet to put linux on an xbox 360?
[11:47] <juanfe> for linux
[11:47] <hydrogen> hrm....... I'm running into a problem.. I am trying to connect to my printer on windows machine, I use the scan function, and my other computer is seen on the network...  but only If I use anonymous access, and if I do that, I get NT_STATUS_ERROR_DENIED when trying to browse the computer itself
[11:47] <muflo> does anyone have conflicts between windows lime and linux?
[11:47] <ttyS0> thrush_2, for ubuntu?
[11:47] <muflo> ops, windows time I mean
[11:47] <juanfe> yes
[11:47] <juanfe> or debian :
[11:48] <moparfan90> how do i change the time til the screen saver comes on
[11:48] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[11:48] <MrBear> as if I dont even have a sound card in
[11:48] <ubuntu> can i view files from my windows partitions
[11:48] <juanfe> yes you can
[11:48] <ubuntu> how?
[11:48] <juanfe> and copy, etc
[11:48] <juanfe> fdisk -l
[11:48] <ubuntu> where do i go
[11:48] <moparfan90> how?
[11:49] <thrush_2> ttyS0, is not OS specific just use the cd or make a boot floppy best thing to use imho
[11:49] <erUSUL> MrBear, try sudo modprobe emu10k1
[11:49] <juanfe> this show the windows partition NTFS, for example hda2
[11:49] <sean__> hey MrBear
[11:49] <sean__> sorry I lost you
[11:49] <sean__> my IRC just stopped responding
[11:49] <juanfe> then mount the partition in a directory in windows
[11:49] <ttyS0> thrush_2, o.k. thank you.
[11:49] <moparfan90> how do i change the time til my screen saver comes on????
[11:49] <cute_bettong> ok i can use the f keys now
[11:49] <MrBear> nothing no error nothing
[11:49] <juanfe> bad, not in windows, in linux
[11:49] <juanfe> sorry...
[11:49] <cute_bettong> and i have written down some of the errors that the box spit out when i tryed to log in
[11:50] <MrBear> sean_ np
[11:50] <cute_bettong> can someone help me fix this ice problem
[11:50] <Ex-Cyber> jatos: if it is possible it will take a lot of work because of all the custom stuff in XB360, it's not like Xbox where it's mostly a PC with a few quirks
[11:50] <erUSUL> MrBear, run lsmod | grep snd
[11:50] <cute_bettong> or is there another display manager that i can use so i can fix gnome?
[11:50] <cute_bettong> something i can get through apt-get?
[11:51] <MrBear> erUSUL none of these commands do anything
[11:51] <cute_bettong> err i mean window manager
[11:51] <juanfe> a linux program to detect hardware details, please?
[11:51] <cute_bettong> is there another windows manager besides kde that i can get for breezy through apt-get?
[11:51] <erUSUL> MrBear, it should be some output now
[11:51] <hondje> lspci
[11:51] <MrBear> nothing it just goes back to the command like
[11:51] <MrBear> like =line
[11:52] <topyli> cute_bettong: there are many. try fluxbox or enlightenment for example
[11:52] <topyli> cute_bettong: btw, those really are window managers, unlike gnome and kde :)
[11:52] <MrBear> I am not even sure if I am running breezy or hoary
[11:52] <sean783> hey MrBear its me
[11:52] <MrBear> kinda mixed my cds up
[11:52] <cute_bettong> ok when i type in sudo apt-get install fluxbox it says that it can't find it
[11:52] <sean783> type uname -a
[11:52] <cute_bettong> i have the default repos
[11:52] <jtan325> anyone here use breezy?
[11:53] <erUSUL> MrBear, when you've runed modprobe there were no errors, were it?
[11:53] <MrBear> no errors
[11:53] <thrush_2> cute_bettong, enable everything in you sources.list then copy the full universe source and substitute multiverse at the end
[11:53] <topyli> cute_bettong: strange, my apt-cache shows fluxbox 0.9
[11:53] <MrBear> just blank
[11:54] <cute_bettong> ok then what the hell am i doing wrong >.<
[11:54] <cute_bettong> lol
[11:54] <[A] ndy80> muflo: :P
[11:54] <test34> can you compile the kernel with gcc v4 ?
[11:54] <topyli> fluxbox is in universe
[11:54] <[t0rc] > I downloaded/installed all the system updates, and now I get this when trying to boot: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)                                                                                                                                              any fixes or do I just need to suck it up and reformat?
[11:54] <cute_bettong> ok
[11:54] <erUSUL> MrBear, so the driver of the soundcar loaded without problems and you should see something out of lsmod
[11:55] <Fubarred> when I VNC into my box, the display is quite small is there a way to increase it?
[11:55] <MrBear> but I dont
[11:55] <newunbunteiro> Hello, I'm setting up ubuntu 5.04 for the first time. I've followed the instructions in ubuntuguide.org to set up firefox plug-ins (mplayer, realplayer). I have installed the plug-ins and I can watch video through them, but I'm not getting any sound, neither from realplayer nor from mplayer plug-ins. How can I turn on the sound for the plug-ins? the rest of sounds in my computer is working fine. thanks
[11:55] <erUSUL> MrBear, try running alsamixer now
[11:55] <cute_bettong> it says it can't find it
[11:55] <MrBear> same error
[11:55] <MrBear> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:56] <topyli> cute_bettong: then you don't have universe enabled i guess
[11:56] <MrBear> do I even have alsa
[11:56] <erUSUL> MrBear, lsmod | grep emu10k1 ??
[11:56] <shynewbie> i can't get ubuntu installed. the installation stops running at the "configuring apt" point.
[11:56] <Kaaden> please help when prompted for login information it takes me to a cmd line like Kaaden@localhost:$~ any ideas
[11:56] <moparfan90> how do you make your self root in terminal?
[11:57] <MrBear> ok I got something now
[11:57] <moparfan90> with out doing sudo before command?
[11:57] <thrush_2> newunbunteiro, which app is there no sound in?
[11:57] <russ> mop
[11:57] <russ> man sudo
[11:57] <moparfan90> ok
[11:57] <russ> not being a dick
[11:57] <MrBear> emu10k1                71940  0
[11:57] <MrBear> sound                  74028  1 emu10k1
[11:57] <MrBear> soundcore               9824  2 emu10k1,sound
[11:57] <MrBear> ac97_codec             16780  1 emu10k1
[11:57] <russ> but i just started, but i know you can use sudo as su
[11:57] <ompaul> !whatis sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> I don't know, ompaul
[11:57] <MrBear> sorry
[11:57] <ompaul> !sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:57] <cute_bettong> for some reason all of the repos where commented out O_o
[11:57] <cute_bettong> i'm getting fluxbox now
[11:58] <moparfan90> !sudo
[11:58] <russ> oh shit
[11:58] <russ> waimea
[11:58] <russ> is back up
[11:58] <cute_bettong> hopefully using that i will be able to come back in here and do things easyer
[11:58] <juanfe> if you desire to be root onli sudo su; then your password
[11:58] <cute_bettong> ok i'll be right back
[11:58] <erUSUL> MrBear, you have onborad sound in your mobo
[11:59] <test34> can you have gcc3 and gcc4 installed together ?
[11:59] <bur[n] er> test34: yes
[11:59] <erUSUL> ?
[11:59] <test34> ok thanks bur[n] er
[11:59] <erUSUL> test34, yes
[11:59] <MrBear> no its a dell
[11:59] <cmussel> I fixed the pnpbios problem, I think.
[11:59] <MrBear> 1998 Dell 8100 used to have a turtle beach sound card
[11:59] <shynewbie> can someone help me get ubuntu installed? the installation stops running at the "configuring apt" point.
[12:00] <MrBear> pitched and got a sound blaster