[12:00] <ompaul> shynewbie, hoary?
[12:00] <moparfan90> does anyone know how to make your self a root in terminal WITHOUT doing sudo before the command??
[12:00] <shynewbie> yes, ompaul
[12:00] <erUSUL> MrBear, ls /dev/snd/
[12:00] <moparfan90> !sudo
[12:00] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:01] <MrBear> ls: /dev/snd/: No such file or directory
[12:01] <MrBear> [1] +  Exit 255                gnome-volume-control
[12:01] <crimsun> occy: search for any linux-image* and linux-restricted-modules* packages and purge them
[12:01] <MrBear> so basically I got no exit door right?
[12:02] <ompaul> shynewbie, try a reinstall and when it gets to the point where it asks you to press enter - or type server - type server when it is finished type 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' that should deal with that problem (common on some early burnt disks)
[12:02] <Fubarred> when I VNC into my box, the display is quite small is there a way to increase it?
[12:02] <ompaul> moparfan90, why would you want to that?
[12:02] <shynewbie> i will try that. but i just burned the disk today.
[12:02] <moparfan90> nvm
[12:02] <newunbunteiro>  both real player and mplayer work fine as aplications, but i can't get sound from their plug-ins in firefox
[12:02] <ompaul> shynewbie, well give it a shot
[12:03] <cute_bettong> wow fluxbox is really neat
[12:03] <cute_bettong> now i have a gui what can i do to fix this problem with ice?
[12:03] <cute_bettong> in breezy?
[12:03] <topyli> cute_bettong: yes it is sweet. i used it for a while, but i really used to be a huge enlightenment fan
[12:03] <shynewbie> ompaul, will that procedure give me the regular stuff i'm supposed to get after installation?
[12:03] <erUSUL> MrBear, for some reason the device files doesn't exist
[12:03] <mustafu> will ubuntu fit comfortably on a 3GB drive?
[12:04] <MrBear> well I dont know how
[12:04] <crimsun> mustafu: it'll be tight, but 'ubuntu-desktop' will fit fine
[12:04] <hydrogen> yes
[12:04] <cute_bettong> so do i continue to use fluxbox and not fix this stupid ice problem or what?
[12:04] <MrBear> I had no problems with the install
[12:04] <cute_bettong> all my important stuff is in gnome
[12:04] <hydrogen> I've got 2.2 gigs currently with a fairly robust system... course my home directory is empty, but :/
[12:04] <cute_bettong> and i really need to get back there
[12:04] <fblade> guys wonder if one of you could explain, how come i can get sound on my desktop programes like gaim andothers but not in games?
[12:04] <topyli> cute_bettong: all your important stuff should be in your home directory. gnome has nothing to do with it
[12:05] <hydrogen> probably a sound mixing problem?
[12:05] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:05] <crimsun> fblade: more than likely your games are requesting exclusive /dev/dsp access
[12:05] <topyli> cute_bettong: but you might as well try and fix gnome :)
[12:05] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:05] <cute_bettong> so what do i do about this ICE error that kicks me outta gnome in 10 seconds
[12:05] <hydrogen> anyway to get bootsplash to work?
[12:05] <crimsun> fblade: if you haven't configured sound (default Ubuntu install), then esd grabs /dev/dsp
[12:06] <crimsun> fblade: in other words, just use esdctl to stop esd before you play your game(s)
[12:06] <hydrogen> or setup dmix :0
[12:06] <crimsun> hydrogen: dmix will not work with dmixed oss-emulated apps
[12:06] <topyli> cute_bettong: you might have to clean up some auth files from your home dir and /tmp. it's a great nuisance :(
[12:06] <erUSUL> cute_bettong, i remember this happening to me. you have to delete a temp file but i can't remember which file
[12:07] <cute_bettong> ok so how do i call up whats going wrong
[12:07] <chavo> just delete everything in /tmp
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> anyone having trouble with gl2 hanging the system?
[12:07] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:07] <topyli> cute_bettong: start with ~/.ICEauthority :)
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> like q3a or mplayer -vo gl2
[12:08] <erUSUL> topyli, yes that file is the culprit
[12:08] <chavo> make sure to get /tmp/.ICE-unix as it is hidden
[12:08] <sean783> Is there a non-free DPKG available from a repository to install the ATI fglrx drivers, or do I need to download the rpm and alien it from ati.com?
[12:08] <cute_bettong> ok how do i get to where my files and folders are in fluxbox?
[12:08] <ompaul> how do I  grab all the data that would be useful to diagnose an install that refused to deal with my network card? [what is really annoying is that the liveCD worked] 
[12:09] <fblade> whats esdctl?
[12:09] <russ> cute_bettong, go back to gnome
[12:09] <topyli> cute_bettong: open a terminal window and remove those files with rm
[12:09] <crimsun> (way to stick around there)
[12:09] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> anyone having trouble with gl2 hanging the system?
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> like q3a or mplayer -vo gl2
[12:09] <jacaru> Hello all. My issue: When I save a file creating a folder from the "Save as" Gnome dialog, the file name field is cleared. This annoys me a lot. Anyone noticed?
[12:09] <cute_bettong> so remove all the files in /tmp ?
[12:10] <topyli> cute_bettong: no, just the ones related to ICE.
[12:10] <grimse_> is there a way to use wpa_supplicant with cisco's airo-driver?
[12:10] <mustafu> will the default FS in Breezy still be ext3?
[12:10] <topyli> cute_bettong: use 'ls -la' to see all the hidden files and their owners
[12:10] <topyli> then rm them
[12:10] <crimsun> mustafu: yes
[12:10] <cute_bettong> kk
[12:11] <cute_bettong> k brb
[12:12] <mustafu> !tell me about mountwindows
[12:12] <MrBear> should install breezy then?
[12:13] <abarbaccia> hey all
[12:13] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:13] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25
[12:13] <adamhill> can someone running the Breezy 5.10 preview, confirm the sk98lin module is in the kernel?
[12:14] <fblade> sorry guys whats esdctl ?
[12:14] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25 I really need some help
[12:15] <crimsun> fblade: it's a utility to control e
[12:15] <crimsun> sd
[12:15] <hydrogen> adamhill: I am not seeing it
[12:15] <fblade> how do i run/use it?
[12:15] <ompaul> fblade - anything with ctl in it is is usually control esd is enhanced sound daemon (yes it is spelt correctly :))
[12:16] <hydrogen> printing keeps freezing at that number when trying to print a test page :(
[12:16] <fblade> okies sohow can i use it so i can get sound working in games?
[12:16] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25 I really need help please...........
[12:16] <hydrogen> Badboy: if you asked any more often you still wouldn't get a response any sooner
[12:17] <ompaul> anyone have a one liner that I can use with a live CD to kill off X?
[12:17] <crimsun> fblade: there are a couple ways, the easiest is probably System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[12:17] <crimsun> ompaul: the same you'd use for an installed one
[12:17] <Coag> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:17] <Coag> kernel?
[12:17] <ompaul> crimsun, for that you can lart me :)
[12:17] <Coag> have any idea what that would be?
[12:17] <ompaul> !lart ompaul
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> is there anyway to remove gcc 3.4 as default? I mean it seems that if I remove it I remove 90% of my system
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> it hates me!
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> err gcc 4.0 rather
[12:18] <Badboy> well, does anyone know a good linux os that can create a server???
[12:18] <crimsun> Coag: linux-headers-$(uname -r) installs a symlink, /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> not 3.4 I need 3.4 as default haha
[12:18] <fblade> but wont that stop me using the sound full stop?
[12:18] <winner> does anyone know how to get portage on ubuntu?
[12:18] <Coag> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:18] <crimsun> fblade: no, only esd-based ones while you're playing your game(s)
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> winner, sure but it will blow your system apart
[12:18] <Coag> that is where?
[12:19] <winner> SlicerDicer-: damn.
[12:19] <winner> yeah i might as well run Gentoo huh?
[12:19] <crimsun> Coag: it's provided by the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I know from experience I was bored :P
[12:19] <crimsun> Coag: the location, of course, is /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:19] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha thanks
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> winner, why do you want portage?
[12:20] <fblade> ok? so how can i get it still play sound in gaim and also in supertux and stuff like that also gl-177
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: felt like emerging stuff.
[12:20] <Badboy> does anyone know a good Linux Based Operating System that can create a good server???
[12:20] <hydrogen> Badboy: any linux distro can..
[12:20] <hydrogen> its the admininstrator that creates one, not that distro
[12:20] <ompaul> Badboy, ubuntu - just choose ubuntu on the install screen :)
[12:20] <SymGeosis> Badboy, gentoo is rather nice for a server.
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: i like knowing that the software im compiling is optimized for my system.
[12:20] <adamhill> hydrogen: dammit
[12:20] <SymGeosis> Badboy, though for server duty I prefer FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: but then i've come to realize, the difference isn't that big.
[12:20] <hydrogen> winner:  for the .035 second speedup you get
[12:20] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ricer alert :P I run gentoo on 2 of my systems
[12:21] <Badboy> Ubunto keeps giving me error 25
[12:21] <winner> SlicerDicer-: yeah. i dont wanna be a ricer hahaha. 2 page flags.. oh man.
[12:21] <ompaul> winner, I am sure you get all the extra clock cycles that you need
[12:21] <adamhill> how do they decide what kernel modules to include in a release (sk98lin is in Hoary)
[12:21] <SymGeosis> Badboy, slackware is nice and thin though takes some expertise.
[12:21] <SlicerDicer-> winner, my previous install of gentoo on this system the make.conf was like 4 pages of crap
[12:21] <Badboy> Is Gentoo Free?
[12:21] <fblade> ok? so how can i get it still play sound in gaim and also in supertux and stuff like that also gl-177
[12:21] <SlicerDicer-> Badboy, of course
[12:22] <Phinite> afternoon all.
[12:22] <Badboy> is it hard to set up a server on gentoo?
[12:22] <Coag> crimsun, ok once i isntall that
[12:22] <SlicerDicer-> Badboy, if your 100% noob yes
[12:22] <Phinite> how do I mount a second drive after booting to ubuntu live cd?
[12:22] <Coag> what woudl the location of the headers be
[12:22] <Badboy> lol
[12:22] <SymGeosis> Badboy, not if you know what you are doing, it just takes some time to compile stuff.
[12:22] <crimsun> Coag: see what I've written twice already
[12:22] <Badboy> ok
[12:22] <winner> SlicerDicer-: well ubuntu's pretty nice. windows2k was actually more responsive, but i was more prone to spyware and all, and win2k gets boring.
[12:22] <ompaul> Phinite, what is on that drive?
[12:22] <Badboy> can you give me da download link?
[12:23] <winner> Badboy: http://www.gentoo.org
[12:23] <Coag> oh thank i apologize
[12:23] <SymGeosis> Badboy, www.gentoo.org =)
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ubuntu is unresponsive?
[12:23] <Badboy> found it
[12:23] <Badboy> lol
[12:23] <winner> SlicerDicer-: no i meant, not as.. fast. you know?
[12:23] <Badboy> which one should i use?
[12:23] <Badboy> universal
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I dont see any slowdown compared to gentoo really
[12:23] <Badboy> minimum?
[12:23] <ompaul> Phinite, more to the point, was it formatted, if so for which operating system and with which type of filesystem?
[12:23] <Badboy> Package?
[12:23] <SymGeosis> Badboy, I'd go with universal.
[12:23] <robzon> hey
[12:23] <Badboy> ok
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, of course I run on a K8 CPU
[12:24] <Badboy> Its downloading
[12:24] <Phinite> debian files, ext3
[12:24] <Badboy> thanks
[12:24] <occy> crimsun occy: search for any linux-image* and linux-restricted-modules* packages and purge them
[12:24] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha im running a P3 600MHz w/ 128MB. old laptop.
[12:24] <Phinite> it should be hdb
[12:24] <robzon> I think it's a known problem... that gnome's cd druid won't actually burn CDs, it will just keep asking for a blank CD even if there actually IS a blank CD in the drive... is there a fix for that?
[12:24] <occy> so do:  apt-get --purge linux-image`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules`uname -r`
[12:24] <winner> Badboy: what are you running right now?
[12:24] <occy> ?
[12:24] <SlicerDicer-> winner, 3500 + AMD with 2gb ram :P
[12:24] <ompaul> Phinite, mkdir /somename ; mount /dev/whichever /somename
[12:24] <occy> heh
[12:25] <ompaul> Phinite, sorry do that with a sudo :)
[12:25] <Phinite> ompaul: will try, thanks
[12:25] <winner> SlicerDicer-: nice.
[12:25] <Badboy> ubunto is my current os
[12:25] <ompaul> Phinite, enjoy
[12:25] <winner> SlicerDicer-: my main computer is still Windows.
[12:25] <winner> Badboy: stay with Ubuntu.
[12:25] <Badboy> but when it tries to load from HDD, it gives error 25
[12:25] <SlicerDicer-> winner, windows is banninated from my household :P
[12:25] <winner> Badboy: i see.
[12:25] <occy> crimsun, did you happen to see that?  apt-get --purge linux-image`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules`uname -r`
[12:25] <occy> or something?
[12:26] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha. i need windows to live. the games i play don't run on linux.
[12:26] <dalamar> cedega!
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> winner, are you sure about that?
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> dalamar, cha ching!
[12:26] <crimsun> occy: dpkg -l linux-image\* linux-restricted-modules\* linux-headers\*|grep ^ii
[12:26] <cute_bettong> where are ubuntu's error logs located?
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> /var/log more than likely
[12:27] <occy> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/361050
[12:27] <SlicerDicer-> but thats just a guess I dont know
[12:27] <winner> SlicerDicer-: yeah. well even if they do, i won't get used to linux. im fine with linux, but i don't think i can commit to make a complete switch.
[12:27] <Phinite> ompaul: it's saying that I must specify the filesystem type
[12:27] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ahh all in good time :)
[12:27] <adamhill> Phinite:  do a 'man mount'
[12:27] <jacaru> Hello all. My issue: When I save a file creating a folder from the "Save as" Gnome dialog, the file name field is cleared. This annoys me a lot. Anyone noticed?
[12:27] <winner> SlicerDicer-: all in good time :)
[12:27] <DVSoftware> winner: give it a few weeks
[12:28] <ompaul> Phinite, t -ext3 can help after the word mount
[12:28] <dalamar> windows is the evil. ill take a small performace cut in my games in cedega to not have to use windows
[12:28] <adamhill> Phinite: I think it is-t <type>
[12:28] <ompaul> Phinite, yeap forgot the '-'
[12:28] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:28] <winner> i'm not new to linux or anything. i've been experimenting with it for a while. i just don't feel that im ready to wake up to linux on the desktop. don't get me wrong, linux makes a great server, but as for desktop, windows just works for me.
[12:29] <crimsun> russ: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:29] <ompaul> Phinite, or more to the point typed it in the wrong place :(
[12:29] <DVSoftware> winner: just try to avoid windows for a few weeks
[12:29] <hydrogen> linux is at the just works stage for most things
[12:29] <erUSUL> winner, well get out of here then X)
[12:29] <fblade> so how can i get sound to work in both games and on desktop
[12:29] <ompaul> winner, to  suggest that windows is ready for the desktop is a misnomer
[12:29] <dalamar> with a good gnome setup most people I know dont even know im running something other than windows when they see the desktop heh, and it will do everything windows can
[12:29] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I used windows since age 10 before that it was just dos, I switched to using linux in 2001 part time by 2003 I was no longer using windows :) all in good time
[12:29] <russ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:30] <crimsun> occy: keep in mind that purging those packages won't erase the directories into which you've installed additional files
[12:30] <haja> I am trying to reconfigure grub because I did a reinstall of Windows. I am using a live cd and trying to save menu.lst~ on in my Ubuntu /boot and it says its a read-only file system. Can someone give me a hand?
[12:30] <DVSoftware> hydrogen: that's most stupid thing that i've heard
[12:30] <occy> crimsun, I've only done the dpkg -l thingy for now.
[12:30] <occy> crimsun, didn't want to screw up anything.
[12:30] <crimsun> occy: you'd have to manually rm -rf those directories in /lib/modules/
[12:31] <DVSoftware> if i understood correctly
[12:31] <hydrogen> oh ffs, case in point... I'm trying to delete a file I had qeued (sp?) for printing now for 20 minutes
[12:31] <ompaul> !tell haja about recover
[12:31] <winner> hm. i don't know. windows isn't that bad. its fine. theres nothing wrong with linux; i'm on it right now, but i just don't think i can get to run linux as main on my desktop.
[12:31] <dalamar> alot of linux issues are user error imo, not knowing how things work ;)
[12:31] <occy> crimsun,  so... root@sometimes:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/drivers/net # pwd
[12:31] <occy> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/drivers/net
[12:31] <occy>   nuke that dir?
[12:31] <DVSoftware> hydrogen: and how you are trying to delete it?
[12:31] <russ> crimsun, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:31] <hydrogen> DVSoftware: the friendly "cancel" button
[12:31] <SlicerDicer-> dalamar, all my neighbors know I run linux and are shocked with what I can do :) specially when they see my mythtv setups and my local servers that I run on my network it blows their gord
[12:32] <cyphase> how can i enable 1600X1200 in ubuntu?
[12:32] <ompaul> hydrogen, lpq follow that with lprm job_number
[12:32] <crimsun> occy: what dir did those extra kernel modules install into?
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cyphase, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:32] <DVSoftware> winner: window's is worse than you think
[12:32] <cyphase> ah, thats it
[12:32] <hydrogen> no, I'm talking about my windows box
[12:32] <cyphase> thanx
[12:32] <ompaul> !tell cyphase about resolution
[12:32] <fblade> so how can i get sound to work in both games and on desktop
[12:32] <hydrogen> as a point
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cyphase, yep
[12:32] <occy> crimsun, I'm guessing that was the dir.  :/
[12:32] <winner> DVSoftware: what makes you say that?
[12:32] <winner> DVSoftware: just wondering.
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> crimsun, longtime no see :)
[12:32] <occy> crimsun, no way to just purge and then reinstall forcing the original state of things?
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> crimsun, well I been gone haha
[12:32] <hydrogen> windows really does very little right
[12:33] <DVSoftware> cos it's more gaming platform than operating system
[12:33] <occy> crimsun, I was using a default Ubuntu kernel setup just peachy.
[12:33] <haja> Thanks ompaul ,
[12:33] <occy> until I got the wild hair to put my wireless card into monitor mode.
[12:33] <occy> :(
[12:33] <Utopiate> so I want to install a win .exe without point to play? what is the command for cedega?
[12:33] <Utopiate> ergh!
[12:33] <winner> DVSoftware: yeah. true. then again, i do play a lot of games.
[12:33] <DVSoftware> khm
[12:33] <erUSUL> fblade, if the games can use a sound server like esd you can if not you're screwed
[12:33] <winner> DVSoftware: thats why i can't switch.
[12:33] <DVSoftware> cedega
[12:33] <DVSoftware> :D
[12:33] <crimsun> occy: change out of that dir, then sudo aptitude purge linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:33] <Utopiate> tried it...
[12:33] <DVSoftware> winner: cedega
[12:33] <dalamar> Utopiate, #cedega, is it a game?
[12:34] <Utopiate> hrmm...
[12:34] <winner> DVSoftware: well. cedega is an alternative, but... i don't know.
[12:34] <DVSoftware> winner: you want to try it?
[12:34] <crimsun> occy: then sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[12:35] <fblade> no i cant use easd but i can use alts and stff like that but then it dont allow sound in he desktop
[12:35] <winner> DVSoftware: not on this computer. i can't run crap on this one.
[12:35] <winner> DVSoftware: do you happen to know how to turn on sub-pixel hinting in GNOME?
[12:35] <DVSoftware> winner: i'm using kd
[12:35] <DVSoftware> kde
[12:35] <occy> crimsun, yess, done
[12:35] <occy> errr
[12:35] <occy> crimsun, yessir
[12:36] <occy> crimsun, I've completed those commands.
[12:36] <winner> DVSoftware: oh. i see.
[12:36] <DVSoftware> but, in font configuration i think
[12:36] <occy> crimsun, was documenting so I can post a mini-howto on my site. ;)
[12:36] <fblade> no i cant use easd but i can use alts and stff like that but then it dont allow sound in he desktop
[12:36] <DVSoftware> you have advanced button there
[12:36] <crimsun> occy: then sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r) linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:37] <hussam> anybody's got google talk working in gaim?
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, coolio  doing now
[12:37] <winner> nice. i just turned it on. i see the difference already.
[12:37] <erUSUL> fblade, alts???
[12:37] <occy> crimsun++
[12:37] <occy> heh
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, I guess I just need to reboot now?
[12:37] <crimsun> occy: yep
[12:37] <occy> all that went without a hitch.
[12:37] <occy> :)
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, okies bud.  be back in a bit.
[12:37] <jblack> I haven't been able to get sound working on my laptop. I suspect the problem is that the problem is that the soundcard requires a specific bitrate, but I'm not sure.
[12:37] <winner> brb
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, thanks tons.
[12:38] <crimsun> occy: yw
[12:38] <crimsun> jblack: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:38] <Fonzi> can someone tell me how to give my user account access to my second harddrive?
[12:39] <jblack> Its a ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4. The system seems to be working just fine with the card (things like xmms works, the mixer seems to work). Sound wise, though ,its silent.
[12:39] <DVSoftware> Fonzi: mount it with -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx
[12:39] <ndazza> Fonzi: mount it
[12:39] <crimsun> Fonzi: your user already has access to it; did you mean to ask for a specific [NTFS/FAT]  partition?
[12:39] <DVSoftware> where xxx is uid/gid
[12:39] <crimsun> jblack: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:40] <jblack> I.E. it works on the hardware/software level, but not on the aurel level. :) I think its a bitrate problem, because my other vaio (which has kde) only makes noise if a certain bitrate is set.
[12:40] <Ivarix> who is admining local dns zones? like ubuntu-lv.org ?
[12:40] <russ> crimsun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:40] <Ivarix> i need to change dns records.
[12:40] <jblack> crimson: Would you mind pastebin.com ? The laptop in question doesn't have an irc client yet.
[12:40] <zurn> hi peeps
[12:40] <zurn> quick question for the gurus?
[12:41] <DVSoftware> zurn: just ask
[12:41] <occy> crimsun++
[12:41] <zurn> Here's my problem, when I play quake3 everythings fine, but when I quit playing and return to the desktop, my desktop resolution does'nt switch back
[12:41] <occy> :)
[12:41] <zurn> I play quake3 in 1024x768 and my desktop is 1280x1024....
[12:41] <jblack> crimson: Assuming so, its at http://pastebin.com/361062
[12:41] <crimsun> russ: yes, I see
[12:42] <occy> crimsun, gonna go make a "tips and tricks" post on http://occy.net/ about it.
[12:42] <DVSoftware> zurn: it's a game problem
[12:42] <Fonzi> thanks for the info the -o uid=xxx worked
[12:42] <zurn> why is that?
[12:42] <bigme> zurn, have you tried oressing ctrl+alt++ (ctrl alt plus) and crtl+alt+- (ctrl alt minus)
[12:42] <crimsun> russ: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[12:43] <bigme> err,, ...pressing...
[12:43] <winner> my fonts look a lot nicer on screen with subpixel hinting and hinting turned on.
[12:43] <winner> very nice.
[12:43] <ksmurf> gday.   I'm trying to get my wife's wireless card going in breezy ... the card is found in lspci as a Eth Con. AR5212 .... A dwl g520.  It was pixked up in hoary but I can't get it up in breezy.  I have no network on that puter.  What do I do to get it going?  I tried the ndis part of the wiki.  where else should I go.  Iwconfig shows no devices
[12:43] <jblack> crimson: Ok Its up at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl//2094
[12:43] <zurn> bigme when I return to the desktop?
[12:43] <Ivarix> ppl. can somebody help me with that dns problem?
[12:43] <bigme> zurn. yes
[12:43] <russ> crimsun, shows both of my sound cards, my onboard nforce4, which im not using, and my sblive
[12:43] <munir> How can I connect to internet using my modem...there is no dialer in ubuntu??
[12:44] <crimsun> russ: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:44] <zurn> bigme no, what i do is change the resolution back to 1280x1024...
[12:44] <dabaRCo> munir dialup?
[12:44] <jblack> munir: You have two choices. pppconfig in the shell, or right click on the task bar and add the modem applet.
[12:44] <crimsun> jblack: please mute the 'Headphone' element
[12:44] <russ> 0 snd_intel8x0
[12:44] <russ> 1 snd_emu10k1
[12:44] <crimsun> russ: and you're using the emu10k1, correct?
[12:44] <russ> yes
[12:45] <munir> dabaRCo: yes..I didn't find any dialer like DialUpNetworking in WinXP
[12:45] <crimsun> russ: please paste the output from ''amixer -c 1'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:45] <bigme> zurn, the ctrl+alt+plus isn't realy a solution but it will save you the trouble of changing the resolution
[12:45] <munir> jblack: I tried pppconfig...but how to connect?
[12:45] <thrush_2> munir, i believe if you open the network settings in top right of the screen and go to modem properties you can dial from there.  not using gnome though
[12:45] <zurn> bigme ok thanks...guess that'll do til I find the prob
[12:46] <crimsun> jblack: if muting 'Headphone' doesn't resolve the issue, you may need to mute 'External Amplifier'
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> munir, pon (provider name)
[12:46] <crimsun> these broken AC'97 codecs are causing me to weep
[12:46] <winner> is there a way to tweak my subpixel hinting? i see a bit of colors in my font.
[12:46] <Gobbla> What should I choose, IPCop or Smoothwall?
[12:46] <russ> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2095
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> winner system>preferences>font preferences
[12:46] <elroy> hello
[12:46] <jblack> crimson: Thought I tried that. You're brilliant!
[12:47] <munir> thrush_2: I Think I found only activate/deactivate option there.
[12:47] <jblack> Muting <External> did the trick
[12:47] <elroy> just installed ubuntu. for some reason mp3s won't play, eventhough i installed the plugin thingie
[12:47] <munir> CookedGryphon: I want to connect using my local ISP here in Pakistan.
[12:47] <thrush_2> munir, there is like an advanced or properties option not really sure
[12:47] <crimsun> elroy: are you using Music Player?
[12:47] <elroy> what's worse, xmms doesn't react to anything anymore.
[12:47] <DVSoftware> !tell elroy about mp3
[12:47] <crimsun> elroy: you need to change XMMS to use the esound output plugin
[12:47] <joakim_> can i get the boot to show something else than all the loading etc?
[12:47] <DVSoftware> elroy: change output plugin
[12:47] <bigme> elroy, you will have to install the codec's
[12:48] <elroy> the codec was installed
[12:48] <bigme> elroy, check www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:48] <haja> I don't really understand this manual grub configuration. Can someone explain this line to me? For example, /dev/hda1 is "hd0,0" to GRUB. Similarly, /dev/hdb3 is "hd1,2". ??
[12:48] <CookedGryphon> munir, use pppconfig first then pon (provider name that u specified in pppconfig) and poff to stop it
[12:48] <haja> My /boot is hdc5
[12:48] <SuperJam> hi !
[12:48] <elroy> how do i quit xmms now ? it's stuck and not doing anything
[12:48] <SuperJam> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[12:48] <ndazza> Gobbla: ideally neither, unless you're using it on something low power like an old laptop
[12:48] <crimsun> ''pkill xmms'' in a Terminal
[12:48] <munir> CookedGryphon:Ok I will try this. Thanks a lot.
[12:48] <SuperJam> got this error
[12:48] <SuperJam> what i've to do?
[12:49] <munir> Thanks all.
[12:49] <DVSoftware> haja: hd2,4
[12:49] <winner> crap
[12:49] <ndazza> Gobbla: you'd be better off getting a purpose-built embedded device and putting m0n0wall on it
[12:49] <winner> hey guys
[12:49] <winner> how do you undelete something
[12:49] <haja> Ok
[12:49] <winner> i just rm'd a file by accident
[12:49] <DVSoftware> elroy killall xmms
[12:49] <Agrajag> windex: build a time machine
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> munir, or u can use the gui one, put it on ure panel
[12:49] <Agrajag> er
[12:49] <Agrajag> winner: what I said
[12:49] <occy> crimsun, http://occy.net/node/142
[12:49] <occy> ;)
[12:49] <bigme> elroy, the soundserver is blocked, most likely by gnome, so just change xmms to use alsa and it might work
[12:49] <winner> noooooo
[12:49] <winner> are you serious
[12:49] <winner> damn
[12:50] <winner> i've been working on that paper for a long time
[12:50] <ndazza> winner: what filesystem? exy?
[12:50] <ndazza> *ext
[12:50] <winner> ext3
[12:50] <munir> CookedGryphon: GUI one? can you tell me the name of that GUI tool?
[12:50] <Agrajag> the data might still be there, if it wasn't written over
[12:50] <occy> crimsun, I might want to include Reboot to be complete.
[12:50] <ndazza> winner: there's an ext3 undeletion howto around somewhere
[12:50] <winner> it shouldn't be written over. how do i recover?!
[12:50] <Gobbla> ndazza: 133mhz..
[12:50] <elroy> ok i changed it to alsa now
[12:50] <Agrajag> your best bet is to immediately unmount that partition
[12:50] <bigme> elroy, does it work?
[12:50] <winner> ..
[12:50] <Agrajag> and find that howto ndazza mentioned
[12:50] <elroy> now it says couldn't open audio
[12:50] <winner> Agrajag: damn. its on this part.
[12:51] <winner> i can't umount /
[12:51] <winner> can i?
[12:51] <Agrajag> unmount it, and if it's your root or something you'd better go dig out a livecde
[12:51] <occy> there we go.
[12:51] <cusco> hi gnomebaker says that I have no permissions to cdrecord
[12:51] <Agrajag> livecd
[12:51] <ndazza> Gobbla: if it's a full PC you're talking about that will still draw 100W or more, over time u will pay money in power
[12:51] <winner> damn.
[12:51] <occy> crimsun, thank you again.  I do appreciate all your time and help.
[12:51] <Agrajag> or it will be overwritten, and probably soon
[12:51] <cusco> in users and groups my user belongs to the group cdrom
[12:51] <crimsun> russ: (1) unmute 'External Amplifier'; (2) unmute 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'; (3) use amixer -c 1 sset 'AC97' 0
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> munir, if you right click on the gnome panel and add to panel, then look for modem monitor, add that to ure panel, then if u right click on it, properties, set all the necessary options there, then right click and say activate and it should dial up if ure modem's working :D
[12:51] <ndazza> winner: there is a gui tool to do what you're talking about too i think it was called gui-undelete or something
[12:51] <cusco> whats missing?
[12:51] <ndazza> winner: it is based on the howto
[12:52] <bigme> elroy, then change it back and go into system->settings->sound and uncheck the box that says Enable sound server...
[12:52] <winner> damn im going to have to umount
[12:52] <munir> CookedGryphon: hmm Ok. Thats sound easier. Thanks
[12:52] <winner> how can i umount / without shutting down computer
[12:52] <ndazza> winner: got a live cd handy? :)
[12:52] <DVSoftware> winner
[12:52] <DVSoftware> no way
[12:52] <winner> damn.
[12:52] <robotgeek> winner: or remount read only
[12:53] <Gobbla> how does m0n0wall work then ndazza
[12:53] <winner> how do i do that robotgeek
[12:53] <elroy> default is esound output ?
[12:53] <russ> crimsun, still the same, unmuted i get feedback and muted i get nothing.
[12:53] <ndazza> Gobbla: similar to smooth/ipcop, but it's designed for embedded devices
[12:53] <crimsun> russ: AC97?
[12:53] <bigme> elroy, it might be,, not sure...
[12:53] <munir> if I mount any fat partition, Should I umount before shuttingdown my PC?
[12:53] <russ> crimsun, ?
[12:53] <Gobbla> not sure i want that..
[12:53] <crimsun> russ: did you change AC97, too?
[12:54] <winner> ahh damn that sucks
[12:54] <winner> i wrote like 2 paragraphs too
[12:54] <winner> i'll just rewrite it.
[12:54] <russ> yes
[12:54] <winner> i didnt get too far.
[12:54] <robotgeek> winner: :)
[12:54] <ndazza> winner: 2 paragraphs? hehe not a 20 page document or anything then! :)
[12:54] <winner> yeah im just lazy hahaha
[12:54] <russ> crimsun, left and right playback and capture are at 0 on ac97
[12:54] <winner> if it was 20 page, i'd kill myself.
[12:54] <majikstreet> hi
[12:54] <DVSoftware> [00:50:05]  [winner]  i've been working on that paper for a long time
[12:55] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[12:55] <robzon> is the preview of breezy fairly stable?
[12:55] <winner> i have :(
[12:55] <DVSoftware> do you type with two fingers?
[12:55] <winner> no i think slow :(
[12:55] <winner> took me a while to gather the thoughts and write it down.
[12:55] <elroy> ok now i see it playing but i don't hear it
[12:55] <winner> actually i just tend to get sidetracked a lot
[12:55] <ndazza> winner: well the thoughts are gathered now :)
[12:55] <iloveyourmom> i need desprate help
[12:55] <SlicerDicer-> is anybody familar with how to speed up nvidia gfx in ubuntu? I am getting 90fps in a game vs 283fps in gentoo
[12:55] <winner> thanks for all the help guys haha
[12:55] <ndazza> Gobbla: http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-161-ProdID-MONOWALL.php
[12:56] <bigme> elroy, is the volume on?
[12:56] <alie> SlicerDicer-, have u installed nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <winner> at least i learned an important lesson: watch what you're rm'ing.
[12:56] <SlicerDicer-> alie, of course
[12:56] <bigme> elroy, open the volume controll and check
[12:56] <ksmurf> any help for a DWL-g520 (ar5212) on breezy?
[12:56] <alie> and checked that glx is loading?
[12:56] <ndazza> Gobbla: if you want to use the old PC, go smoothwall, it looks schmicker and has better help
[12:57] <_avatar> Is there any way to upgrade Hoary to Breezy? Will the install CD do this for me?
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>  ___________________
[12:57] <iloveyourmom> < i love you mom!!! >
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[12:57] <crimsun> iloveyourmom: go away
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>    |     0  \/  0    | |
[12:57] <SlicerDicer-> alie, umm I would not be able to run 3d ohterwise
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>   /|                 | |
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>  / |        <        |\ \
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[12:57] <alie> it could be running under mesa?
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[12:57] <DVSoftware> iloveyourmom: bye
[12:57] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[12:57] <ksmurf> lol
[12:57] <bigme> haha
[12:58] <alie> thank you whoever
[12:58] <ndazza> _avatar: you're talking about a downgrade there :)
[12:58] <MrBear> back
[12:58] <Gobbla> ndazza, aight
[12:58] <ndazza> he left, wasn't kicked
[12:58] <alie> ah
[12:58] <russ> * crimsun sets ban on %*!*@68.55.130.177
[12:58] <crimsun> he's muzzled if he comes back.
[12:58] <alie> anyway cool
[12:58] <russ> doesn't matter
[12:58] <elroy> volume control doesn't seem to make a difference
[12:58] <_avatar> ndazza, Hoary to Breezy is a downgrade? I thought Hoary was 5.04 and Breezy was 5.10...
[12:58] <ksmurf> any help for a DWL-g520 (ar5212) on breezy? pls?
[12:58] <ndazza> _avatar: oh so it is! i misread :D silly me
[12:58] <bigme> elroy, are the chanels on mute?
[12:58] <elroy> nope
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, ;)
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, so, will the Install CD do an upgrade or must I do a fresh install?
[12:59] <ndazza> _avatar: just edit /etc/apt/sources.conf and change all references from 'hoary' to 'breezy'
[12:59] <bigme> elroy, does the sound work otherwise?
[12:59] <winner> my Breezy cd got messed up or something, because setup never worked. i ended up setting up Hoary instead.
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, cool... thats relatively safe?
[12:59] <ndazza> _avatar: not sure, i haven't done it yet ;)
[12:59] <Lous> _avatar, i did it
[12:59] <elroy> how can i check that ?
[12:59] <MrBear> I just installed breezy at least I have volume control now
[01:00] <ndazza> _avatar: a guy i know did it, the only problem was his nvidia drivers screwed up
[01:00] <alie> i'd be weary of soing a dist-upgrade
[01:00] <DVSoftware> _avatar:  i'm running breezy
[01:00] <DVSoftware> it's fine here
[01:00] <_avatar> DVSoftware, and you just used ap?
[01:00] <Lous> _avatar, Im running breezy too, not a problem
[01:00] <_avatar> apt.
[01:00] <MrBear> same here
[01:00] <DVSoftware> yep
[01:00] <_avatar> great, thanks :)
[01:00] <MrBear> as long you do a fresh install
[01:00] <_avatar> oh.
[01:00] <bigme> elroy, well, do you hear anything when you login?
[01:00] <DVSoftware> it apt-get dist-upgraded something today
[01:00] <_avatar> I was going to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, MrBear
[01:00] <ndazza> alie: i'd be doing a dist-upgrade if going to breezy. otherwise dependencies will prevent a full upgrade and u will have a hybrid
[01:00] <DVSoftware> i've noticed new gnome
[01:00] <elroy> i haven't heard anything yet
[01:00] <Lous> well, i changed breezy in the source list
[01:00] <alie> agreed
[01:00] <Lous> I was using hoary
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> what I dont get is why when I run glxgears it does not give me a fps output at all either the FPS on everything is super low I am confused....
[01:01] <Lous> and did not found a problem
[01:01] <MrBear> I burned breezt
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, then the installation hasn't detected your soundcard
[01:01] <elroy> that sucks.
[01:01] <_avatar> Lous, great, thanks
[01:01] <DVSoftware> SlicerDicer-: breezy?
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, yeah
[01:01] <DVSoftware> here is the same issue
[01:01] <CookedGryphon> When u upgrade to breezy do u keep all ure settings and extra packages u installed?
[01:01] <DVSoftware> but in game it works fine
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, open a terminal and type: lsmod | grep snd
[01:01] <winner> is it possible to upgrade to breezy without a whole new cd?
[01:01] <DVSoftware> CookedGryphon: yea
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, ohh yeh my games work fine but the FPS is way low
[01:01] <drnick_> run glxinfo, i dont thinkn glx gars is in brezy yet, i could be wrong
[01:01] <MrBear> yes but not recommend
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, does it produce any output
[01:01] <DVSoftware> winner: yeah
[01:02] <elroy> yep. a whole bunch of lines
[01:02] <winner> DVSoftware: how do you do it :)
[01:02] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, cool, i'll do it when i get to uni and can use the fast internet, it would take a while at 2kb/s
[01:02] <robotgeek> glxinfo
[01:02] <nir_> hello
[01:02] <MrBear> cause if you upgrade you get mixed files with hoary
[01:02] <DVSoftware> replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <MrBear> sean783 are you around?
[01:02] <DVSoftware> and do apt-get update
[01:02] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, to hell with it I will just nuke out the nvidia drivers and do it the old way :P
[01:02] <nir_> i would like to install other window managers then gnome/kde , is it possible to install fluxbox ?
[01:02] <DVSoftware> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <bigme> elroy, then I have no idea,, sorry
[01:03] <winner> i see.
[01:03] <DVSoftware> nir_: yeah
[01:03] <DVSoftware> why not
[01:03] <winner> i'll upgrade to breezy once it gets final.
[01:03] <thrush_2> winner, any time i upgrade like that i just install on a new partition. too many bad experiences
[01:03] <winner> thrush_2: good idea.
[01:03] <elroy> bah. this is like the 4th linux distriburion i've tried and again it gives me trouble :(
[01:03] <alie> nods
[01:03] <winner> thrush_2: do you then delete the old one and move the stuff in?
[01:03] <drnick_> elroy you having trouble with soundcard mainly?
[01:03] <aberrant> has breezy been released?
[01:04] <MrBear> no just preview
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> aberrant, not yet
[01:04] <elroy> nope
[01:04] <DVSoftware> aberrant: not yet
[01:04] <nir_> DVSoftware: can i d/l those packages with apt ?
[01:04] <DVSoftware> october
[01:04] <Lous> 13
[01:04] <Lous> th
[01:04] <elroy> before ubuntu it was dependency issues
[01:04] <thrush_2> winner, no I usuall keep the old one for a while until im sure I just mount it and copy over home dir and stuff
[01:04] <nir_> coz i cant find them within apt-cache
[01:04] <DVSoftware> nir_: probably
[01:04] <DVSoftware> try
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> why can't i dl wine? it keeps coming up bad header line
[01:04] <DVSoftware> nir_: repos?
[01:04] <dabaRCo> CookedGryphon: you have us. in front of your sources.list lines?
[01:04] <nir_> whats repos ?
[01:05] <aberrant> i have two identical harddrives, I would clone my system and then upgrade and test it for a week
[01:05] <dabaRCo> or as part of the URLs?
[01:05] <DVSoftware> !tell nir_ about repositories
[01:05] <aberrant> clone your sys before upgrading ..hds are cheap
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> dabaRCo, NOPE
[01:05] <nir_> thanks :)
[01:05] <thrush_2> winner, ive got like 6 OSs on my computer right now.  Maybe its time to delete a few =)
[01:06] <DVSoftware> nir_: np
[01:06] <nir_> :)
[01:06] <dabaRCo> CookedGryphon: post your sources somewhere.
[01:06] <nir_> compared to gentoo/slack ubuntu is really slow... why ?
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> i ahve the sources.list off pastebin
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> i'll post it in flood
[01:06] <DVSoftware> nir_: consider that you compile every package in gentoo lol
[01:07] <DVSoftware> and optimize for your cpu
[01:07] <aberrant> when I configure my DNS by system->Admin->networking..the DNS settings don't persist across reboots...anybody know why?  my static ip and other settings seem to stick
[01:07] <alie> i don't seem to have speed issues here and i'm running as guest inside a vmware session
[01:07] <drnick_> check and make sure dma is enable on your hd aswell
[01:08] <drnick_> not sure how much that will speed it up but if you have an older sstem it may be disbled
[01:08] <DVSoftware> alie: ???
[01:08] <elroy> any way i can make ubuntu detect my soundcard again ?
[01:09] <hydrogen> Is it possible to get bootsplash to work?
[01:09] <alie> navnos is a gentoo based live cd that u can install to HD and have base gentoo and X installed already
[01:09] <drnick_> elroy you see this link? http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[01:10] <aberrant> anybody know how to make DNS nameserver setting persist across reboots?  I have to manually reconfigure it each time
[01:10] <DVSoftware> w00t
[01:10] <alie> i'm a distro whore... what can i say?
[01:11] <CookedGryphon> i used redhat 7, dipped my lil toe in mandrake 8, then settled on ubuntu
[01:11] <DVSoftware> alie: i don't count tryouts
[01:12] <alie> been using linux since 1995 stopped dual booting since 1998
[01:12] <MrBear> finally
[01:12] <MrBear> got my sound to work
[01:12] <drnick_> aberrant go to system->administration->networking if you in gnome
[01:12] <alie> ok not including try-outs... 100
[01:12] <elroy> i'll check it
[01:13] <alie> at least
[01:13] <aberrant> drnick_, thanks...I did that..I set my dns nameservers..but they don't persist across reboots..any idea why?
[01:13] <DVSoftware> alie: you're distro whore... for sure
[01:13] <alie> and i'm still not a guru lol
[01:13] <DVSoftware> alie: n00b?
[01:13] <DVSoftware> :D
[01:13] <alie> intermediate
[01:14] <alie> i think...
[01:14] <drnick_> nope , open up /etc/resolv.conf
[01:14] <convidado> xine is package opensource ?
[01:14] <drnick_> see if its listed their
[01:15] <aberrant> drnick_, /etc/resolv.conf is configured properly right now, but if I reboot, it'll be blank.
[01:15] <alie> distro's ive used in last 12 months are vector, slack, ubuntu, mandrake/mandriva, pclinuxos, elive, knoppix, debian, SUSE,
[01:15] <ne1> hi there, tried dist-upgrade to breezy and get the following error, any ideas?
[01:15] <aberrant> why does the /etc/resolv.conf get cleared?
[01:15] <drnick_> hmm weird, sorry im at a loss then, you on breezy?
[01:15] <aberrant> drnick_, neg...hoary
[01:15] <ne1> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i686_2.3.5-1ubuntu11_i386.deb  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[01:15] <DVSoftware> alie: do you change distros monthly or what?
[01:16] <aberrant> no worries...thanks anyway...guess I'll have to add a script to configure it or figure out the resolv.conf init scripts
[01:16] <DVSoftware> can someone open winehq.com
[01:16] <DVSoftware> connection timeout here
[01:16] <alie> DVSoftware,  i have a standard distro i use... pclinuxos.. and another partition to play with others that pass the vmware test
[01:16] <DVSoftware> maybe it's my isp shit
[01:17] <roham_> I need help with Wireless connections, I cant logon to the network... Isnt there any wireless manager? like wlassistant... but it only works on kde... ?? anyone please
[01:17] <DVSoftware> ewww pclinuxos
[01:17] <DVSoftware> mandriva
[01:17] <DVSoftware> same shit
[01:17] <alie> i just enjoy looking at different ways to do the same thing
[01:18] <alie> pclinuxos is a mandriva fork... it is a distro in it's own right... the same as ubuntu isn't debian
[01:18] <aberrant> roham_, wuts the problem?
[01:18] <DVSoftware> alie: isn't debian better than mandriva?
[01:18] <aberrant> roham_, iwconfig
[01:18] <alie> u got no argument there :D
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, i get a timeout too
[01:19] <drnick_> aberrant do you have a package called "esolvconf " installed, reason i ask is i just saw this link http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/3c9111a40e4d3dd3/31f617cf252c56eb?lnk=st&q=%2Fetc%2Fresolv.conf+clear+reboot&rnum=1&hl=en#31f617cf252c56eb
[01:19] <elroy> that site still doesn't fix my problem :(
[01:19] <gwxnei001> .nullus.net
[01:19] <cusco> roham_: iwlist scan "device-name"
[01:19] <drnick_> oops that should read "resolvconf"
[01:20] <cusco> eg. eth3 or wlan0
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> what cool native linux games can i install?
[01:20] <DVSoftware> cusco: it's iwlist device scan
[01:20] <roham_> aberrant... when i try to start up the card ,,, it wont log in... j
[01:20] <aberrant> drnick_, neg...just resolvconf
[01:20] <alie> but pclinuxos uses mandriva tools that have been tweaked by texstar and co... result is stable and very configurable
[01:20] <cusco> DVSoftware: lol yes
[01:21] <aberrant> roham_, are you connecting to a wireless router?  802.11b/g?
[01:21] <DVSoftware> alie: it's still crap
[01:21] <Fubarred> when I VNC into my box, the display is quite small is there a way to increase it?
[01:21] <ne1> any ideas?
[01:21] <alie> why crap?
[01:21] <aberrant> Fubarred, man vncserver
[01:21] <aberrant> Fubarred, you can spec geometry
[01:21] <momo> just loaded latest breezy on my dell 700m
[01:21] <DVSoftware> alie: well, i consider mandriva as beginner's os
[01:22] <momo> anyone know why rcconf doesnt work?
[01:22] <abuntic> hey can someone help me I am having an apt problem.
[01:22] <alie> this is true,,, many percive this
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, more than ubuntu?
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> i thought ubuntu was easier 4 beginners than mandriva
[01:22] <DVSoftware> CookedGryphon: yes
[01:22] <elroy> hey i got sound..
[01:22] <DVSoftware> its easier than ubuntu
[01:22] <elroy> i had to change the device used in xmms
[01:22] <MrBear> mom how is it going?
[01:22] <alie> and pclinux os does everything for u as well, java, flash, all codecs installed for ya
[01:22] <DVSoftware> it has shitload of config dialogs
[01:22] <MrBear> I am getting better support than hoary
[01:22] <bigme> elroy, whoohooo!
[01:22] <elroy> for some reason it didn't have the right one selected.
[01:23] <alie> and a 7 click install
[01:23] <drnick_> hehe its always the simple think sometimes over looked glad you got it
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: yes... but I think I found it... but why isnt there any better graphic manager?
[01:23] <MrBear> got sound working and even my cam
[01:23] <momo> breezy solved all my issues with my wireless iwp2200
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"freedom fries"
[01:23] <alie> think memphis as a debian deriv
[01:23] <elroy> cool. now i just gotta get this audioscrobbler plugin.. :)
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: how can I search?
[01:23] <DVSoftware> alie: i'll make my own distro :D
[01:23] <aberrant> roham_, there is no gui config installed with ubuntu by default ..I think there are probably guis out ther
[01:24] <DVSoftware> i'll follow linuxfromscratch guide
[01:24] <DVSoftware> :D
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_,  but you can do it on the command line
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant: dosnt work
[01:24] <alie> i got a lfs in vmware took me 4 days :D
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_,  you need the WEP key from your router
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_, man iwconfig
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant: eth0      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant I have it
[01:25] <winner> it's pretty nice to have a transparent terminal window.
[01:25] <DVSoftware> alie: last time i just finished compling kde
[01:25] <DVSoftware> and i was too bored to continue
[01:25] <alie> LOL
[01:25] <alie> tis true... in gentoo it took 7 hours for kde
[01:25] <DVSoftware> alie: but it was extremely fast
[01:25] <alie> on my 2600XP
[01:25] <abuntic> winner: is it a true transparency?
[01:26] <aberrant> roham_, when you type iwconfig, what do you get?
[01:26] <winner> abuntic: no :(
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: no, not really
[01:26] <winner> abuntic: do you know of a true transprent term?
[01:26] <cusco> hi.. gnomebaker says that has no permission to use cdrecord...
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: it would have been the same speed
[01:26] <abuntic> winner: oh ya I have been trying to get a true one
[01:26] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: like what?
[01:26] <abuntic> winner: no luck
[01:26] <DVSoftware> like gentoo?
[01:26] <Barock> I just installed Breezy Badger and I'm having some trouble with my use mouse, the mouse freezes from time to time, any ideas?
[01:26] <elroy> laterx
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> compiling your own software doesn't gain you speed
[01:27] <abuntic> winner: apparently x org has the possibility but no info on it enywhere
[01:27] <alie> true u do reep the rewards...
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> it wastes your time
[01:27] <winner> abuntic: damn :(
[01:27] <drnick_> cusco are you running it as root, if not edit your sure permissions
[01:27] <alie> but i found that vector linux was very nearly as fast
[01:27] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: wrong
[01:27] <abuntic> winner: I dont mean to bother you but do you know anything about apt?
[01:27] <winner> abuntic: apt-get?
[01:27] <roham_> aberrant alot of data on eth0
[01:28] <abuntic> winner: ya
[01:28] <alie> apt-get install <package>
[01:28] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: you compile it for your own cpu
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: I know EXACTLY how it works.
[01:28] <winner> abuntic: sudo apt-get install (package)
[01:28] <abuntic> winner: It gives me an error
[01:28] <cusco> drnick_: how?
[01:28] <winner> abuntic: what error do you get?
[01:28] <roham_> aberrant do u know any good manager?
[01:28] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: optimization flags?
[01:28] <alie> sorry forgot sudo bit
[01:28] <aberrant> roham_, wut kind of wireless card do you have? you might need to load a kernel module
[01:28] <abuntic> I installed debian packages and it is confused I think
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: you're lucky to get 5%
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> at best
[01:29] <drnick_> oops i meant user, go to system->administaration->users and groups
[01:29] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: and if you compile entire system with that?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: then you've wasted literally days
[01:29] <winner> abuntic: hm. i really have no idea. sorry.
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> not to mention the amount of power you've wasted
[01:29] <subterrific> compiler optimizations doesn't always help, in many cases they slow things down
[01:30] <DVSoftware> well
[01:30] <alie> depends on system and what flags u use
[01:30] <winner> do you think its wise to compile kernel with optimizations?
[01:30] <DVSoftware> i've founded that blfs
[01:30] <DVSoftware> was extremely fast
[01:30] <abuntic> winnerL: the error is: "the following packages have unmet dependencies"
[01:30] <alie> doing thing -03 is not good all the time
[01:30] <roham_> aberrant: internt wireless on laptop (hp)
[01:30] <roham_> internal
[01:30] <casius> .cl
[01:30] <winner> abuntic: hm..... what are you trying to install?
[01:30] <michelinux> hi
[01:30] <roham_> aberrant : need 2 go to bed
[01:30] <test34> is there a dynamic dns program that is available via apt-get ? like no-ip ?
[01:31] <roham_> aberrant: thx anyway... will be back tomorrow :D
[01:31] <abuntic> winner: dvdrip and java
[01:31] <tylee> hello
[01:31] <aberrant> roham_, ok...good luck
[01:31] <nalioth> abuntic: dont get java from the repos
[01:31] <nalioth> !tell abuntic about java
[01:31] <tylee> asl ever1
[01:31] <michelinux> In Breezy, how I can get my US keyboard to work as International US (like the old us_intl)?
[01:32] <winner> abuntic: i don't know, maybe this would help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[01:32] <cusco> michelinux: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[01:32] <nalioth> tylee: i hope you're joking
[01:32] <cusco> michelinux: setxkbmap
[01:32] <abuntic> winner: ok thanks
[01:33] <michelinux> cusco: I now, but I was used to load the us_intl symbols... but they are "removed" in breezy
[01:33] <cusco> that can't be
[01:33] <subterrific> test34: search in synaptic 'Name and Description' for dynamic dns
[01:33] <cusco> make sure you set your propper kb layout
[01:34] <winner> abuntic: np :)
[01:34] <michelinux> I just checked it... also in the xorg CVS repository the "us_intl" is marked as REMOVED
[01:34] <subterrific> test34: i see ipcheck and ez-ipupdate both in repos
[01:35] <test34> thanks subterrific
[01:35] <michelinux> So I think there is another way to get the international kbd... but I don't know that
[01:35] <alie> ddclient for dynamic dns
[01:35] <subterrific> test34: and one called no-ip
[01:35] <subterrific> test34: you're welcome
[01:35] <alie> Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org
[01:36] <test34> subterrific, I don't see them, maybe because I use breezy
[01:36] <subterrific> i'm using breezy also
[01:36] <subterrific> maybe you need to enable the universe repos
[01:36] <MrBear> me too
[01:36] <MrBear> I love it
[01:37] <test34> subterrific, I guess I do.. I never did
[01:37] <alie> yep no-ip also :d
[01:37] <IRCMonkey_> i have a computer with hoary installed. How do i upgrade to breezy?
[01:37] <nir_> hi, iv just install fluxbox, but i guess i need to install the basic X, whats the name of the package ?
[01:37] <MrBear> recommend a clean install
[01:37] <alie> xorg
[01:37] <nexus-> i can't find the iso images for breezy live on ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu/ for the life of me
[01:37] <dalamar> www.distrowatch.com
[01:38] <ivangrozny> my computer is horribly laggy graphics wise, i dont think its using the correct nvidia drivers
[01:38] <XoBelLoX> hey peoples
[01:38] <occy> wow, iloveyourmom had some cool graphics.
[01:38] <occy> heh
[01:38] <ivangrozny> even trying to scroll a web page thers lag
[01:38] <ivangrozny> theres*
[01:38] <rendi> hi guy's how to make autorun when my server is restart
[01:38] <nir_> what i need to install to get startx ? :)
[01:38] <alie> ivangrozny,  check /etc/xorg.conf and see if nvidia in there not nv
[01:38] <XoBelLoX> anyone 14-16 here?
[01:38] <IRCMonkey_> so, should i go for a clean install?
[01:39] <occy> * crimsun sets ban on %*!*@68.55.130.177  hehe
[01:39] <occy> I see crimsun laid the smack down
[01:39] <occy> ;)
[01:39] <MrBear> I am 24
[01:39] <alie> rendi auto run what?
[01:39] <rendi> sutorun alie
[01:39] <occy> silly goons doing stuff like that
[01:39] <occy> *sigh*
[01:39] <rendi> example i have installed privoxy on my server
[01:39] <occy> I
[01:39] <ivangrozny> alie, i tried putting nvidia in there before but then it just dint boot to the login screen, it said there was a probelm and booted to the text version
[01:39] <occy> I've gotten a lot of msg spam today
[01:39] <rendi> and if my server is restart i wanna privoxy started too
[01:39] <XoBelLoX> r  any of u bored cuase i am any hot guys talk to me or p2p me!!!!!~
[01:40] <test34> subterrific, cool I see it now
[01:40] <rendi> anyone know ?
[01:40] <alie> ok
[01:40] <alie> look in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d
[01:40] <rendi> and ?
[01:40] <rendi> my privosy installed ono /etc/privoxy
[01:41] <XoBelLoX> hello someone talk to me plezzz!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] <alie> in init.d put a script to start proxy... script couldbe as some simple like #! /bin/sh
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> !ops
[01:41] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:41] <alie> Name of proxyserver &
[01:41] <XoBelLoX> is this all u guys talk about is cumputers
[01:41] <alie> save it and make it execuctable
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: correct.
[01:42] <cafuego> XoBelLoX: Check the channel topic.
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: please go elsewhere
[01:42] <chase> well hello there
[01:42] <MrBear> hi chase
[01:42] <XoBelLoX> hello
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: this channel, indeed this *network* is not for you
[01:42] <cafuego> Try UnderNet maybe?
[01:42] <chase> anyone able to tell us how to make an ISO image out of a CD?
[01:42] <alie> then in /etc/rc2.d make a symlink to the script
[01:42] <rendi> and now i'm dunno to make script like that
[01:42] <chase> i ken its a simple question but still i dont know
[01:42] <cafuego> I hear that's full of semi-retarded children.
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> chase: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[01:43] <chase> :-
[01:43] <Piggybank> chase, it's very easy,but I forgot.
[01:43] <alie> ok what proxy server?
[01:43] <fartbarker> i burn iso on imac
[01:43] <chase> :-) thanks
[01:43] <rendi> privoxy
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> chase: it may report an error, but that means it's reached the end of the disc
[01:43] <ivangrozny> any suggestions as to why my computer is so graphic laggy, i have checked the xorg.conf file and it says "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[01:43] <alie> ok type in a console "sudo which privoxy"
[01:43] <Piggybank> fartbarker, does it work?
[01:44] <fartbarker> like a charm
[01:44] <alie> should give u a path
[01:44] <alie> open gedit
[01:44] <alie> and type #! /bin/sh
[01:44] <fartbarker> every iso i burn with linux no good
[01:45] <rendi> ok and then my privoxy sit on /etc/privoxy
[01:45] <alie> then type that path like "/usr/sbin/privoxy &
[01:45] <MrBear> be back later people
[01:46] <rendi> usually i started /etc/init.d/privoxy start
[01:46] <alie> then save it as priv or similar
[01:46] <rendi> ok
[01:46] <alie> u already have it in init.d?
[01:46] <rendi> yes
[01:46] <alie> ok good... forget what i just said
[01:47] <rendi> here
[01:47] <alie> ok look in /etc/rc2.d
[01:47] <rendi> # /etc/init.d/privoxy start
[01:47] <rendi> Starting privoxy:                                          [  OK  ] 
[01:47] <alie> ok
[01:47] <rendi> ok then
[01:47] <alie> do a ls and u will see S20Program etc etc where program is the one starting at init 2
[01:47] <beniamino> !tell beniamino about java
[01:48] <alie> u want the proxy to start after ifup has done it;s buniness
[01:48] <Lichte> how do I get win32codecs in breezy ??
[01:48] <rendi> u mean like this S84privoxy -> ../init.d/privoxy
[01:48] <linlin> how do i make something start on boot in ubuntu
[01:49] <alie> ln -s S84privoxy /etc/init.d/privoxy
[01:49] <cafuego> linlin: Either set up init scripts by hand, ot add stuff to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:50] <alie> should start at boot
[01:50] <benji> Is there anyway I can emulate multiple channels on my soundcard?
[01:50] <rendi> wait
[01:50] <rendi> ln: `/etc/init.d/privoxy': File exists
[01:50] <benji> so i can run multiple programs that use sound
[01:50] <froggy25> does anyone here use fceu
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> benji: it does that by default
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> using esd
[01:50] <froggy25> to play nes roms
[01:50] <alie> opps my fault
[01:51] <rendi> it mean i have del `/etc/init.d/privoxy' first ?
[01:51] <benji> ahh okay
[01:51] <benji> i'll install esd
[01:51] <benji> thanks
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> benji: dmix is arguably better
[01:51] <alie> ln -s /etc/init.d/privoxy /etc/rc2.d/S84privoxy
[01:51] <benji> hmm
[01:51] <benji> what do you mean by arguably better?
[01:51] <alie> my bad sorry
[01:52] <rendi> same
[01:52] <rendi> ln: `/etc/rc2.d/S84privoxy': File exists
[01:52] <ompaul> how do I figure out if the disk I have burnt will boot?
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> ompaul: reboot
[01:52] <alie> then it should be running at boot time... unless the /etc/init.d is the binary
[01:52] <darknature> Hmm can anyone tell me how I can put my Trash bin on my desktop
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> with it in the drive
[01:52] <darknature> instead of having it in a panel
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[01:53] <alie> not the script
[01:53] <IRCMonkey_> does anyone know if here is a way of making ubuntu look like a mac OS X
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> darknature: applications->system tools, configuration editor
[01:53] <darknature> k
[01:53] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: ofcourse there is a way.
[01:53] <alie> have a look in rc3.d and rc5.d to make sure the is no K84privoxy
[01:54] <darknature> ok where at in configuration editor?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> darknature: then, apps, nautilus, desktop
[01:54] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, :) it is almost 1am forgive me - I borked my box trying to play with breezy, fixed the second one in the house - no network card :) interesting times ahead :) here grace os live cd
[01:54] <darknature> ok thanks
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> trash_icon_visible
[01:54] <sean783> um, I have a question
[01:54] <IRCMonkey_> BlueEagle: is there an easy way?
[01:55] <sean783> are there any special steps I need to go through (other than alien -i) on the ATI .rpm for the latest display drivers?
[01:55] <rendi> ur mean i must del S84privoxy in rc3.d and rc5.d ?
[01:55] <sean783> will it hose Ubuntu if i install that
[01:55] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: That really depends on what you define as "easy". It does involve some installation of apps and some configuration file editing accompanied by a LOT of manual reading.
[01:55] <alie> no
[01:55] <cusco> not really
[01:55] <alie> those can stay
[01:55] <IRCMonkey_> BlueEagle: what apps?
[01:56] <benji> how can I figure out what program has /dev/dsp locked?
[01:56] <benji> i forget :)
[01:56] <cusco> IRCMonkey_: I suggest you take alook at http://www.gnome-look.org/
[01:56] <Piggybank> eye... old boring lessions
[01:56] <alie> benji try ps-aux
[01:56] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: Well, some desklets for the calendar I've been told is on the root window for example. Also a custom panel. Oh, and you need a screwdriver to rip off one of your mouse buttons :p
[01:56] <test34> Can someone try to connect to 68.214.99.47 port 33333 using SSH please ?
[01:56] <alie> erm
[01:56] <bob2> sean783: why do you want that instead of the version that comes with ubuntu?
[01:56] <alie> ps -aux
[01:56] <benji> yeah
[01:57] <BlueEagle> test34: I could try but I would fail miserably as that port is blocked by my fw. :)
[01:57] <benji> but that won't show what is using /dev/dsp
[01:57] <bob2> you block ports basedon the *destination* address?
[01:57] <bob2> why?
[01:57] <alie> Rendi from what u have told me it should be loading at boot
[01:57] <BlueEagle> benji: Running ESD?
[01:57] <benji> nevermind
[01:57] <DaMi3n> since i upgraded frm hoary to breezy i cant make any panel transparent. is there a solution to this??
[01:57] <benji> teamspeak didn't close properly
[01:57] <test34> BlueEagle,  I was about to ask the same question as bob2
[01:57] <bob2> er, destination port
[01:58] <bob2> DaMi3n: be less vague
[01:58] <DaMi3n> bob2 : ??
[01:58] <bob2> DaMi3n: do you mean "using transset" or do you mean "I can't make my panel show the background in between items"?
[01:58] <BlueEagle> benji: Everything that's not spesifically allowed is blocked. My sister runs a windows PC on the same net when she drops by with her laptop. Keeps misc trojans from phoning home.
[01:58] <rendi> i'm still confused do this on terminal now i'm go to webadmin interface
[01:58] <BlueEagle> benji: sorry. I was owned by nick completer again
[01:58] <rendi> maybe can help me
[01:58] <cafuego> BlueEagle: So? I'm sure she gets a different ip eh?
[01:59] <benji> lol np
[01:59] <BlueEagle> bob2: test34: ^^
[01:59] <alie> ok
[01:59] <test34> BlueEagle, ok
[01:59] <DaMi3n> bob2: well earlier i could goto panel props and make panels transparent with the solid color option.. now that doesnt work
[01:59] <BlueEagle> cafuego: No, same external ip.
[01:59] <BlueEagle> cafuego: She's 10.0.0.5 when she's here.
[01:59] <bob2> DaMi3n: so, you don't mean transpareny, you mean psuedo-transparency
[01:59] <CookedGryphon> DaMi3n, if transparent panels r dissabled then i'm sticking to hoary!
[01:59] <cafuego> BlueEagle: Your firewall can surely distinguish between 10.0.0.5 connecting out and any other box doing so?
[02:00] <DaMi3n> bob2: umm ok.. so is there a solution to this
[02:00] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Yes, but I haven't set it up to do so.
[02:00] <bob2> DaMi3n: what does the BTS say?
[02:00] <DaMi3n> Bts??
[02:00] <pc1> friends, i have problem. i have 10 Ubuntu clients here in my cafe, how to share their files? like windows file sharing...
[02:00] <alie> BlueEagle, using iptables and 2 nick cards?
[02:01] <bob2> DaMi3n: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <BlueEagle> alie: iptables and 3 NICs yes.
[02:01] <alie> 3 cool
[02:01] <occy> http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/ironman/9331/275_ironman-mad05_050910.asx
[02:01] <pc1> friends, i have problem. i have 10 Ubuntu clients here in my cafe, how to share their files in the easiest way? like windows file sharing...
[02:01] <bob2> pc1: why would machines in an internat cafe need to share files
[02:01] <DaMi3n> chekin it
[02:01] <occy> anyone know if I can watch that under Ubuntu?
[02:01] <alie> i'm using 2
[02:01] <bob2> pc1: and stop repeating
[02:01] <BlueEagle> alie: NIC = Network Interface Card. NIC card = Network Interface Card card.
[02:01] <cafuego> pc1: Use samba, like windows fiel sharing.
[02:02] <alie> my typo blue l)
[02:02] <pc1> bcos some customers transfer their files from another machine
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: that's great
[02:02] <occy> This is Ironman Wisconsin live:  http://ironmanwisconsin.com/
[02:02] <BlueEagle> alie: Nick = shorthand for nickname = something completely different :)
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: have a world writable NFS share?
[02:02] <alie> pc1 try nfs
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: now be a lot more specific about how you want it to work
[02:02] <benji> when using esd...what do i tell programs like teamspeak to use for sound...the device
[02:02] <occy> I'm doing Ironman Florida in November.
[02:02] <occy> :D
[02:02] <benji> or network location:port
[02:02] <mombof> is ubuntu the bot or this chanel?
[02:02] <mombof> *for
[02:02] <occy> geeks on crack[tm] 
[02:02] <BlueEagle> mombof: no
[02:02] <pc1> so how will i do it? i dont know much about this linux
[02:02] <alie> agreed BlueEagle
[02:02] <bob2> mombof: ubotu is a bot in this channel, yes
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: you need to be a lot more specific about what you hope to do
[02:03] <BlueEagle> mombof: ubotu is the channel bot
[02:03] <pc1> wats the easiest way for super beginner like me?
[02:03] <DaMi3n> bob2: well the prob is a bit strange.. i can make all my panels placed at the top transparent.. howevr when i do the same with panels placed to the bottom they show weird colors or become black...
[02:03] <bob2> pc1: it's not about "easy", it's about "secure"
[02:03] <cafuego> pc1: MacOS X
[02:03] <alie> LOL
[02:03] <devonst17> w00ty
[02:03] <bob2> DaMi3n: then file a bug if no one else has
[02:03] <devonst17> first thing I hear when I come in is OSx
[02:03] <devonst17> thats awesome
[02:03] <devonst17> ^^
[02:03] <DaMi3n> bob2: ok
[02:03] <pc1> its ok if its not secure as long as its very easy to do cos im a beginner in this ilnux os
[02:03] <BlueEagle> devonst17: ;D
[02:03] <occy> man.. these people carrying little babies scare me.
[02:03] <jf6> how to install codec (mp3 and video)??
[02:04] <jf6> PLEASE
[02:04] <pc1> im using now ubuntu the hedgehog
[02:04] <hop> jf6: hm?
[02:04] <bob2> pc1: no, it's not ok
[02:04] <pc1> so how will i do it please
[02:04] <CookedGryphon> jf6, apt-get install gstreamer*
[02:04] <bob2> jf6: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <bob2> jf6: and in future, please read the FAQ
[02:04] <pc1> so how? please help
[02:04] <DaMi3n> bob2: b4 i do that how do i come to know if the problem has been reported b4??
[02:04] <BlueEagle> !tell jf6 about RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <CookedGryphon> that isprobs better than mine
[02:04] <alie> jf open synaptic and search name and desription for codec
[02:04] <devonst17> How do you enable DRI on an NVidia Card?
[02:04] <bob2> pc1: you need to stop and think
[02:04] <bob2> DaMi3n: please try to use English in here
[02:04] <jf6> bob2,  thx
[02:05] <jf6> BlueEagle,  thx
[02:05] <devonst17> glxgears gets me 90 fps
[02:05] <jf6> hop, thx
[02:05] <BlueEagle> devonst17: It didn't work well for me when I tried it.
[02:05] <bob2> DaMi3n: you look up the bug reports on gnome-panel, and see if any look similar to yours
[02:05] <pc1> what do u mean? can i just have the steps to do it?
[02:05] <jf6> i'm french sorry guys
[02:05] <bob2> devonst17: glxgears is not a benchmarking tool
[02:05] <alie> i don;t think i've ever enabled dri on nvidia cards
[02:05] <mombof> !dpkg
[02:05] <CookedGryphon> jf6, #ubuntu-fr
[02:05] <DaMi3n> bob2: ok tx a lot!!!
[02:05] <qt2> where is the default install location of eggdrop in ubuntu? as in, where should the eggdrop.conf be placed?
[02:05] <bob2> nvidia implemented their own version of DRI
[02:05] <BlueEagle> devonst17: Which driver is listed in xorg.conf? cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep driver
[02:05] <bob2> mombof: you can talk to the /msg
[02:05] <bob2> qt2: dpkg -L eggdrop
[02:05] <cafuego> qt2: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop
[02:05] <bob2> pc1: you need to stop talking and think
[02:05] <bob2> pc1: you haven't actually specified what you want to do yet
[02:06] <mombof> thx i was msg the wrong bot ! oops ! i did ubuntu not ubotu
[02:06] <Brunellus> is the channel +m?
[02:06] <Brunellus> guess not.
[02:06] <qt2> cafuego: u always thought that /usr/share/doc/ was only for documentation?
[02:06] <bob2> no
[02:06] <pc1> how will i think if i dont know any? i said, i need help in sharing files in an ubuntu network here in my little cafe. what are the steps? i dont know any..
[02:06] <bob2> pc1: no, sto pit
[02:07] <jf6> hum nobody for help me?
[02:07] <bob2> pc1: you haven' actually explained any details yet
[02:07] <bob2> jf6: wtf
[02:07] <bob2> jf6: 2 people gave you answers
[02:07] <noti> hi
[02:07] <DaMi3n> bob2: i found a similar bug already posted in there .. what should i do??
[02:07] <BlueEagle> pc1: Are you going to share them with NFS, SMB or perhaps LDAP?
[02:07] <alie> pc1 what files do u want to share? maybe have a central /home or what?
[02:07] <pc1> but i cant explained any details yet cos i have no details yet due to i dont know any of these sharing files in ubuntu
[02:07] <bob2> DaMi3n: read the bug log.  if they've asked for people to follow up, do so. if not, do nothing.
[02:07] <bob2> pc1: no, it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:08] <bob2> pc1: you need to explain what ou're trying to do
[02:08] <Chadza> Any reason why quak2, which I installed through apt-get, would just hang at loading the sound driver?
[02:08] <pc1> i need to share the home folder
[02:08] <bob2> if you're running an internet cafe, presumably you know at least a little about networks
[02:08] <bob2> Chadza: pkill esd
[02:08] <bob2> pc1: so, you have actual user accounts?
[02:08] <pc1> i need to share the home folder to all ubuntu computers here
[02:08] <bob2> great
[02:08] <CookedGryphon> pc1 r u english?
[02:08] <bob2> isn't it easier whn you actually tell people what you're trying to do?
[02:08] <pc1> yes, this is the pc1 thts why my nick here is pc1
[02:08] <alie> i assume everyone has same username?
[02:09] <Lichte> how do I get win32codecs in breezy ??
[02:09] <noti> i have a problem with xawtv. when i do "system->preferences->multimedia systems selector" y can see tv when i press "test" button in the video tab
[02:09] <dutch> try easy ubuntu
[02:09] <bob2> pc1: how are you sharing account data between machines?
[02:09] <alie> sorry bob2  for stepping in :d
[02:09] <noti> but with xawtv i see a blue screen..
[02:09] <xTina> Lichte: iirc the w32codecs just worked for me when I took the hoary-extra ones
[02:09] <sean783> wowo, this is chaotic in here
[02:09] <sean783> lots of questions
[02:09] <bob2> noti: you seem to be missing a bunch of words in that "question"
[02:09] <bob2> sean783: you didn't answer my question yet
[02:09] <noti> what?
[02:09] <Lichte> xTina: ok, thanks
[02:10] <pc1> i dont know how to share account, all i know is to connect it to my dsl connection like what i did now..
[02:10] <sean783> what was your question bob2?
[02:10] <sean783> I'm sorry
[02:10] <pc1> by putting gateways and dns
[02:10] <noti> i mean, i can see tv with v4linux but i can't see it with xawtv
[02:10] <pc1> thts all i know but to share files to the network i dont know
[02:10] <alie> noti in /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure v4l isn;t commented out
[02:10] <bob2> sean783: why are you not using the ati drivers that come with ubuntu?
[02:11] <bob2> pc1: perhaps you should hire a sysadmin?
[02:11] <noti> and i had no problem with suse and other distros
[02:11] <pc1> i would like to share my home folder to all network
[02:11] <bob2> pc1: how are people logging in currently?
[02:11] <thejanitor> question for anybody
[02:11] <pc1> autologin
[02:11] <noti> if someone knows...
[02:11] <sean783> bob2: because the ati drivers that come with Ubuntu are not the FGLRX drivers, and they do not provide DRI for my R350 chipset.
[02:11] <thejanitor> is there a file somewhere in warty that is like xorgconfig
[02:11] <alie> noti, could be a simple permission problem
[02:11] <bob2> sean783: if they're not "FGLRX", what are they?
[02:11] <thejanitor> the ati drivers broke xorg
[02:11] <pc1> but no one knows here how to share linux machines because they only know windows
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: they are community-provided open source drivers written for ATI video cards of the Radeon 9000 OR LOWER brand
[02:12] <bob2> thejanitor: you mean you installed ati drivers from outside ubuntu, and now it's screwed?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: My card is a Radeon 9800
[02:12] <bob2> sean783: no, sorry, you're wrong
[02:12] <bob2> sean783: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <pc1> i have heard tht need to use samba to share files in linux but i dont know how to
[02:12] <alie> have u tried xawtv as root?
[02:12] <bob2> pc1: no, you don't
[02:12] <jdub> occy: pong
[02:12] <thejanitor> bob2, yeah
[02:12] <thejanitor> i did
[02:12] <bob2> pc1: how do you let people have the same password on each machine?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: oh, have things changed? fglrxinfo indicates that direct rendering is NOT enabled, is it because the binary drivers are disabled by default, but installed?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: I will check the webpage
[02:13] <noti> ok. i have no reference to v4l in my xorg.conf. so, what?
[02:13] <alie> holdon a sec
[02:13] <noti> yes, alie, i tried xawtv as root
[02:13] <pc1> i just make the password and accounts on each of the machine fixed so tht they can login easily without the hasle
[02:13] <ksmurf> how do I setup a wificard that wasn't picked up on install in breezy?
[02:13] <benji> I'm having a problem with having my Centrino processor running at 100%..I'm using KLaptop...when I set it to 100%...it runs very very slow
[02:13] <bob2> ksmurf: depends what chipset it is
[02:13] <bob2> benji: don't use klaptop
[02:13] <ksmurf> bob2 AR5212
[02:13] <pc1> so i put accounts from pc1 to pc10 with only one password uniform to all
[02:14] <benji> bob2: Okay, any suggestions for power management?
[02:14] <cafuego> benji: powernowd
[02:14] <benji> thanks
[02:14] <bob2> benji: ubuntu does it by default
[02:14] <alie> in xorg.conf u should see Section Module
[02:14] <cafuego> benji: (via powernowd ;-)
[02:14] <bob2> there's no need to install anything extra
[02:14] <benji> ahh, it's set to run at 100% by default?
[02:14] <bob2> benji: no
[02:14] <alie> in that section type load "v4l"
[02:14] <bob2> it's set to vary speed depending on load
[02:15] <pc1> i have one windows xp machine in my room and i can see it here in network but i cant see the linux machines here in the cafe =( pls help
[02:15] <bob2> ksmurf: which uses which driver?
[02:15] <bob2> pc1: dude, samba will not help you
[02:15] <cafuego> benji: No, ion bootup a powermanagement deramon is started that will step the cpu down to lower speeds, when it's idle.
[02:15] <alie> restart x server
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> my laptop doesn't seem to ahve any power management features enabled by default, it tells me the battery percentage ut that's it, the fan always runs at full
[02:15] <pc1> so what will i do?
[02:15] <noti> thx alie
[02:15] <noti> going to try
[02:15] <alie> ok
[02:15] <pc1> cos i just read tht samba will, i dont know
[02:15] <mombof> pc1, if want to shre between windows and linux you have to setup samba server on the linux box
[02:15] <bob2> CookedGryphon: perhaps it's not supported then
[02:15] <bob2> CookedGryphon: have you reported the issue?
[02:16] <bob2> samba is no the solution for global homedirs
[02:16] <CookedGryphon> bob2, kinda
[02:16] <bob2> not by itself, anyway
[02:16] <sean783> bob2: interesting, the debian package for breezy that contains the fglrx drivers (in restricted) is 8.14.13, several versions old
[02:16] <sean783> bob2: being a Gentoo hacker myself, I'm going to disregard this package and install it from the ATI website. 8.16.20 baby!
[02:16] <bob2> that seems fairly pointless
[02:16] <bob2> but whatever floats your boat
[02:16] <cafuego> eah, wreck the package system. Clever.
[02:16] <bob2> bear in mind you don't get support from ubuntulad anymore
[02:16] <CookedGryphon> bob2, its an athlon mobile processor, and cpu frequency scaling isapparently not supported, but it dunt even give me a time left for the battery
[02:17] <sean783> I will be running Winblows games through Cedega, and need all bugfixes and extra FPS that I can get
[02:17] <alie> maybe sean likes the graphical ati install :D
[02:17] <pc1> yes, i did share linux to my xp machine in my bedroom but my porblem here is i want to share this machine to my other linux machines here in the cafe, i mean i want to share the home folder of this to other linux machines here in the cafe so tht they can see my home folder
[02:17] <bob2> CookedGryphon: if it doesn't work, do file a bug so it can be fixed
[02:17] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Athlon XP-M's do have frequency scaling.
[02:17] <sean783> I'll also be running native UT2k4
[02:17] <CookedGryphon> and the battery only lasts an hour n a quarter with it workin on full
[02:17] <bob2> pc1: that's not what you're trying to do
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: you have a moderately complex problem in a revenue generating business, get a contractor in to fix it
[02:17] <CookedGryphon> cafuego, any idea how to enable it
[02:17] <bob2> pc1: you're trying to let people have a single global homedir
[02:17] <mombof> setup samba client on each
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> mombof: don't complicate the issue
[02:17] <bob2> mombof: how will that help?
[02:17] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Well, mine does anyway. Mine just loads up acpi and runs powernowd; that's all there was to it.
[02:18] <mombof> he obviosly want to use more than just linux
[02:18] <occy> jdub, heyaz
[02:18] <alie> nfs would be the way i'd have thought
[02:18] <CookedGryphon> cafuego, mine doesn't, it says at startup MAD mobile athlon 4 known _not_ to support cpu frequency scaling
[02:18] <bob2> mombof: how will samba help setup global home directories?
[02:18] <xTina> pc1: you want to install an nfs server, export the homedir on each machine and mount the homdir from each of the machines on every other machine. so on pc1 you'll have the local home in /home/pc1 and the remote homes for example in /mnt/pc2, /mnt/pc3 ... /mnt/pc10.
[02:18] <noti> it works!!! thx a lot alie
[02:18] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Mebbe your have an older model, dunno.
[02:18] <occy> jdub, just wanted to say I think it's a bad idea to have Breezy listed at the top of the download pages until it's stable.
[02:18] <noti> trying to solve the sound problem now
[02:18] <alie> anytime niti
[02:18] <noti> thx
[02:18] <bob2> pc1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4048.html, for a start
[02:18] <alie> sound?
[02:18] <noti> bye
[02:18] <noti> yes, sound
[02:19] <occy> jdub, I've seen at least one perosn in here who was trying to run it who was new to linux and it was their first experience.
[02:19] <noti> i hear nothing
[02:19] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Mine goes from 500 MHz to 1.8 Ghz without issues.
[02:19] <pc1> the problem is just this, i want to share the home folder of this ubuntu to my other ubuntu linux here in the cafe, thts all, not global but locally.
[02:19] <alie> from tv?
[02:19] <noti> yes
[02:19] <bob2> pc1: you setup NFS on a central machine and mount /home from it on any other machines
[02:19] <mombof> asign each user to a group that can read/write a whatever dir he wants
[02:19] <jdub> occy: which pages?
[02:19] <noti> y have connected the outpout fromn the tv to the input of the sound card
[02:19] <nickv111> I'm having problems installing initrd-tools during the ubuntu install
[02:19] <alie> ok try a couple of things... brb
[02:19] <occy> jdub, ubuntulinux.org/downloads/
[02:19] <xTina> pc1: I just explained to you how to do that.
[02:19] <pc1> kk, il try tht nfs. thanks friends
[02:19] <bob2> nickv111: hoary? sure the cd is ok?
[02:19] <occy> jdub, breezy, IMHO, should be second on the list.
[02:19] <alie> ok is line-in turned up?
[02:19] <nickv111> Does anyone else get an error when installing initrd-tools?
[02:19] <nickv111> bob2: Yes
[02:19] <crimsun> occy: if Breezy is _that_ broken that a new user has a disastrous experience, then that's a critical issue, and testing will help iron that out before the final release.
[02:19] <nickv111> bob2: I am positive
[02:20] <noti> turned up
[02:20] <occy> crimsun, :/
[02:20] <jdub> occy: erk, yeah
[02:20] <pc1> hi tina, ok ok il try =)
[02:20] <pc1> but honest i dont know this nfs thingy, il just try, cos im a beginner in this linux
[02:20] <occy> crimsun, well, good point but... do we really want to displace advocacy with new users as guinie pigs?
[02:20] <nickv111> I'm running it in qemu. Maybe I'll try without kqemu
[02:20] <bob2> nickv111: you checked the md5sum yourself?
[02:20] <sean783> Isn't there a command to search all current APT repositories for packages using the commandline?
[02:21] <alie> try this command... no quotes "v4lctl volume mute off"
[02:21] <CookedGryphon> apt-get search
[02:21] <sean783> ah :)
[02:21] <sean783> knew it, thanks
[02:21] <sean783> thought it was like apt-search lol
[02:21] <occy> I just think it's a bad policy to have "unstable or testing" as the top default download.
[02:21] <occy> My suggestion is this:  have alisting at the top of the downloads page:
[02:21] <noti> trying
[02:21] <occy> * Stable (use this if you aren't sure)
[02:21] <crimsun> occy: afaict, it's the ONLY listing under Downloads, which is bad
[02:21] <occy> * Testing
[02:21] <occy> * foo
[02:21] <occy> crimsun, scroll down
[02:21] <occy> crimsun, stable is waaaay down there.
[02:22] <occy> which is bad, again, in my humble opinon
[02:22] <crimsun> ah, I was looking at the announcement
[02:22] <occy> at least I told "The Man" about it.
[02:22] <alie> noti,  also try another tv app.. like tvtime
[02:22] <occy> ;)
[02:22] <occy> Just doing my part.
[02:22] <occy> hehe
[02:22] <sean783> Now this is perplexing: my downloads get to 99.99999999%, then hang! it won't finish! >_<
[02:22] <sean783> (using Firefox)
[02:22] <occy> crimsun, watching the Ironman Wisconsin finishers coming in now.
[02:22] <occy> crimsun, freakin' crazy
[02:23] <crimsun> they're certainly dedicated
[02:23] <occy> heh
[02:23] <noti> works!!! thnx again alie...
[02:23] <occy> crimsun, 8 weeks till Ironman Florida!
[02:23] <alie> welcome
[02:23] <noti> yes. i tried a lot of them
[02:23] <noti> thx again
[02:23] <noti> i'm going to see tv now, hehehe
[02:23] <noti> see you
[02:23] <occy> I should have my head examined
[02:23] <noti> bye
[02:23] <nickv111> bob2: Well, no, but I've downloaded both ubuntu and kubuntu and they both give me the same error
[02:23] <alie> took me 4 days to get mythtv to have sound because of that :P
[02:23] <bob2> nickv111: so, time to check the md5sum of the CD
[02:24] <alie> bye
[02:26] <nickv111> bob2: Yeah, the MD5SUM is fine
[02:26] <nickv111> bob2: I'm using the 5.10 preview
[02:26] <bob2> the md5sum of the disk or the iso?
[02:26] <bob2> oh, right
[02:26] <bob2> report a bug then if you're sure the disk is ok
[02:27] <benji> argh
[02:27] <benji> how can i get rid of klaptop from running?
[02:27] <benji> kapicd or whatever
[02:27] <benji> kacipd*
[02:28] <bob2> er
[02:28] <bob2> kacpid is a kernel thread
[02:28] <bob2> killing that would be fairly suboptimal
[02:28] <benji> oh
[02:28] <benji> hmm
[02:28] <benji> ahh i see
[02:28] <benji> i'll just disable everything in klaptop then
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> no
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> hmm
[02:29] <pc1> waaa
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> sry everyone
[02:29] <nickv111> Is the preview considered stable?
[02:29] <bob2> go kde, it's your birthday
[02:29] <pc1> i dont know how to do NFS, can someone teach me the steps please? =(
[02:29] <cafuego> nickv111: Nope
[02:29] <dummer101> according to me...no
[02:29] <dummer101> I get bootstrap errors
[02:29] <nickv111> Maybe I should use 5.04 then
[02:29] <bob2> preview is considered preview
[02:29] <xTina> nickv111: I consider it stable :)
[02:29] <cafuego> nickv111: That's why it's a preview, not a release.
[02:29] <bob2> pc1: read the URL I gave you
[02:30] <benji> hmmm my system is still running funny after i disabled everything in klaptop
[02:30] <alie> bye for now chaps
[02:30] <pc1> what was tht bob2? i forgot please
[02:30] <bob2> pc1: scroll up
[02:30] <pc1> kk
[02:30] <xTina> nickv111: It's been working a lot better for me than hoary. But I'm the person who managed to hit any bug that was there in hoary in the past few weeks ;)
[02:30] <dummer101> Okay... I've got a question here.. I'm running Hoary... and I can't get it to work with my NIC (Realtek 8139c) but it will work with knoppix...anyone have anyideas?
[02:30] <bob2> and if you're asking for help, you can go slightly out of your way to hit the "page up" key before asking people the same question
[02:30] <sean783> hey, that's no fair - as a user I don't have permission to write to anything under /media - how do I give myself permission?
[02:31] <bob2> sean783: depends entirely on what you moutned under there
[02:31] <sean783> THAT'S why my Firefox!!!! downloads aren't completing!
[02:31] <xTina> btw, anyone around other running breezy too? and having realplayer installed or willing to install it?
[02:31] <sean783> well they're the base folder of hard drives on my system
[02:31] <sean783> and partitions
[02:31] <bob2> then perhaps you mounted it wrongly
[02:31] <xTina> -other that is ;)
[02:31] <dummer101> bob2 was that in response to me?
[02:31] <bigme> sean783, sudo chmod -R 777 /media
[02:31] <bob2> did you forget umask=000 if they're windows filesystems?
[02:32] <cafuego> bigme: What a retarded idea!
[02:32] <sean783> thanks bigme - I'll give that a try, sounds promising
[02:32] <bob2> bigme: that will not help if they are windows partitions
[02:32] <bob2> sean783: do not do that
[02:32] <bob2> dummer101: no
[02:32] <sean783> they're ext3
[02:32] <cafuego> sean783: Adjust the mount options for those drives, so your suer account can write to them.
[02:32] <bob2> sean783: then fix the permissions carefully
[02:32] <carlson> hey all... anyone can explain why some apps like sinaptyc doesnt get the gnome themes i am using?
[02:32] <bob2> instead of using the h-bomb hammer of chmod -R 777
[02:32] <bigme> sorry,, didn't read the whole thing
[02:33] <pc1> bob2, gonna eat my breakfast, im hungry, my little brain wont work cos im starving, haha, be back freind =)
[02:33] <cafuego> sean783: For ext3, probably make them GROUP writeable and make sure you're in the right group (you could chgrp too)
[02:33] <bob2> carlson: by "some" do you mean "ones run as root"?
[02:33] <xTina> carlson: You mean synaptic?
[02:33] <cafuego> bigme: chmod 777 is ALWAYS a bad idea, irrespective of the problem.
[02:33] <dummer101> anyone have any ideas...as to the NIC hardware prob?
[02:33] <jf6> hum someone to help me?
[02:33] <xTina> carlson: if you mean that, it's probably because it's running as root.
[02:33] <bob2> dummer101: how old is the machine?
[02:33] <bob2> jf6: holy hell dude
[02:33] <xTina> jf6: did you ask a question?
[02:33] <carlson> bob2, hey now that you said it, you're rightm, all program i am running as a root doesnt get the theme
[02:34] <bob2> jf6: you've been told the answer 3 times now
[02:34] <carlson> is there a way to set themes for root?
[02:34] <bob2> carlson: and how are you running them?
[02:34] <dummer101> bob2 not sure... it's a P3
[02:34] <bob2> dummer101: try booting with "acpi=off"
[02:34] <dummer101> not new...but not ancient
[02:34] <jf6> bob2 :sure
[02:34] <carlson> bob2,  i have to put my pass to enter then, so i guess i am running as root, right? i am using ununtu
[02:34] <bob2> jf6: so why did you ignore that answer?
[02:34] <bob2> carlson: right
[02:35] <jf6> bob2 sorry i'm french and i dont understand everything
[02:35] <bob2> jf6: then go to #ubuntu-fr
[02:36] <xTina> carlson: You can either copy the respective configuration files (.gtkrc if it's a gtk theme) to the root account (/root), or you might be able to run the respective config tools as root, or you can log into Gnome as root and configure stuff there (which is evil and therefore disabled on Ubuntu by default).
[02:36] <carlson> xTina,  thanx thanx...
[02:37] <vinux> Sounds works in 5.04 but doesn't work in 5.10. Anybody have ideas how to fix this?
[02:37] <bob2> a) define "works"
[02:37] <bob2> b) file a bug
[02:38] <FireRabbit> breezy's gstreamer package is missing ximagesrc?
[02:38] <black_> hello everybody
[02:38] <Bubblefly> Hey all
[02:38] <carlson> xTina,  i never thought that it should be because of it!!! i tought it was some limitation with synaptic... but now its working, thanx!
[02:38] <sean783> Is there any PAM modules on Gnome that work with a biometric fingerprint reader? (the system already recognizes the device)
[02:38] <black_> i want to configure nautilus to have a button that open the terminal
[02:38] <bob2> PAM has little to do with Gnome
[02:38] <black_> does someone can help me?
[02:39] <FireRabbit> black_, when you right-click the desktop?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> black_: The file browser or the panel?
[02:39] <xTina> black_: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[02:39] <sean783> doesn't gdm use pam to authenticate you?
[02:39] <bob2> and I'm pretty sure no laptops have working fingerprint readers under Linux
[02:39] <black_> BlueEagle: yes
[02:39] <bob2> sean783: that's the only linkage, yes
[02:39] <xTina> black_: Or do you mean an actual button?
[02:39] <`fusion> :>
[02:39] <cusco> using breezy, when gnomebaker is converting audiofiles...
[02:39] <sean783> it's not a laptop fingerprint reader; it's a USB one
[02:39] <cusco> (gnomebaker:15834): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_geometry_hints: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[02:39] <cusco> (gnomebaker:15834): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_move_resize: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[02:39] <BlueEagle> black_: That was not a yes/no question but an either or.
[02:39] <`fusion> how do I exit gnome?  So I can install an nvidia driver :(
[02:39] <cusco> and the program freezes/crashes
[02:39] <bob2> sean783: linux supports it? really?
[02:39] <bob2> `fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <sean783> hang on, let me provide you the module name
[02:39] <sean783> one moment bob2
[02:39] <black_> BlueEagle: i want that nautilus open a terminal with the actual location
[02:40] <black_> do you understand me?
[02:40] <FireRabbit> black_, oh, there are scripts that do that
[02:40] <bob2> cusco: minor bug...does it continue working?
[02:40] <xTina> black_: Did you try right-clicking in the window?
[02:40] <BlueEagle> oh, yes I do, and I want that too. :)
[02:40] <FireRabbit> err..
[02:40] <black_> let me see
[02:40] <xTina> black_: there should be an open terminal menu item in the context menu
[02:40] <FireRabbit> the nautilus-open-terminal thing does that
[02:40] <xTina> black_: if there isn't, see the apt-get command
[02:40] <FireRabbit> has anyone tried Istanbul package?
[02:40] <black_> exact
[02:40] <black_> that is what i am looking
[02:40] <FireRabbit> the*
[02:41] <cafuego> FireRabbit: not COnstantinople?
[02:41] <FireRabbit> cafuego, huh?
[02:41] <bob2> it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.
[02:41] <bob2> and it's no oe's business but the Turks
[02:41] <cafuego> bob2: ... nobody's business but the turks.
[02:41] <FireRabbit> I dont know what you guys are talking about ...
[02:41] <gloria> Does anyone know if it is possible to install a windows program, specificaly Quicken 2005, into a Ubuntu OS?
[02:42] <MrBear> have fun people
[02:42] <sean783> bob2: nevermind, it is showing up as a 0x0 device class; it's only recognized as "a low-power usb device"
[02:42] <dalamar> possibly with wine/crossover office
[02:42] <crimsun> bob2: / sean783: http://www.qrivy.net/~michael/blua/
[02:42] <sean783> bob2: oh well... i was misled by device manager for a moment there
[02:42] <cusco> bob2: no.. it stops
[02:42] <bob2> ol' blue eyes was in they might be giants?
[02:42] <sean783> crimsun: is that biometric | linux?
[02:42] <bob2> gloria: might be possible with wine
[02:42] <cafuego> FireRabbit: cultural barbarian!
[02:42] <bob2> gloria: appdb.codeweavers.com
[02:42] <FireRabbit> ugh.
[02:42] <bob2> yes, ignoring the device manaer is generally a good move
[02:42] <ompaul> bob2, na it was new york, new york!
[02:43] <crimsun> sean783: it's for pam-bioapi, which UPEK is working on
[02:43] <gloria> k, i'll try it
[02:43] <sean783> fantastic
[02:43] <ompaul> cafuego, watch out for mac the knife .......
[02:43] <sean783> crimsun: that's a handy link ty
[02:43] <crimsun> sean783: np, though the link is from thinkwiki
[02:43] <bob2> haha
[02:44] <carlson> hi again! anyone knows if there is a way to get or emulate something like the dockbar from the new macos?
[02:44] <pvt2> does anyone know what software work with cam in ubuntu
[02:44] <carlson> on windows there is a objectdock, but on linux it seens that there isnt any
[02:44] <gloria> thanks, guys
[02:45] <bob2> carlson: and the docbar does...
[02:45] <CookedGryphon> pvt2, there's gnomemeeting, gaimwv works with yahoo only and there's the cvs version of amsn which works but is unstable
[02:45] <cafuego> carlson: On Linux you can run 'afterstep', which is based on NeXT, which is what OSX is based on. The _original_ dock!
[02:45] <carlson> bob2,  its a container with icons to open programs and iconified programs... when you pass your mouse over it zoom the icon... its just a nice stuff from macs lol
[02:46] <cafuego> carlson: People have written a few of 'em for Linux, afaik. They may not be packaged in/for Ubuntu though.
[02:46] <hondje> why drag the icon when you can just click it?
[02:46] <carlson> cafuego, i was searching through google, but with no success
[02:46] <cafuego> carlson: give www.freshmeat.net a try
[02:46] <carlson> cafuego,  but did you see the new dock fro macs? its very cool
[02:47] <bob2> that sounds annoying
[02:47] <bob2> I ilike that gnome stays the hell out of my way
[02:47] <cafuego> carlson: I have a bunch of Macs here, running OSX.
[02:47] <xTina> carlson: Trust me, the zooming gets boring after 2 minutes.
[02:47] <newbuntu> How do I see NTFS partitions?
[02:47] <ompaul> !tell newbuntu about ntfs
[02:47] <carlson> xTina, i have this on my windows and i love it lol
[02:47] <benji> anyway I can find the current cpu speed of my centrino processor?
[02:47] <xTina> carlson: *shiver*
[02:48] <carlson> xTina,  but i want to finnaly stop using windows, then i wont have this dock anymore :(
[02:48] <meko> cn i run windows based games on ubunto ?
[02:48] <hondje> carlson: if you like it that much, use gdesklets to run one of the theme thingies
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> meko: short answer: no
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> meko: long answer: maybe
[02:48] <meko> :(
[02:48] <holycow> http://www.phoneyworld.com/newspage.aspx?n=1344  okay, this is frickin cool
[02:48] <meko> hahah
[02:48] <hondje> HrdwrBoB's long answer was almost twice as long
[02:49] <genbie> anyone can hear sound at the apple.com trailers plz? I just installed mplayer on breezy but sound is not working on the trailers
[02:49] <hondje> er, over
[02:49] <meko> wat i this breezy that i hear
[02:49] <kailer> hey folks when icompile a program to install is it unreasonable for it to take more then 10 minutes?
[02:50] <ompaul> !tell meko about breezy
[02:50] <xTina> kailer: Not at all.
[02:50] <genbie> meko new ubuntu realease.. final in october
[02:50] <bimberi> breezy
[02:50] <bob2> kailer: depends entirely on what it is
[02:50] <xTina> kailer: Though it depends on the program and the computer.
[02:50] <odat> hello everyone
[02:50] <eltano> hola buenas noches. alguien habla espaol, necesito ayuda urgente...
[02:50] <odat> does anyone have any experience with evolution?
[02:50] <eltano> soy nuevo con linux.
[02:50] <bimberi> !es
[02:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:50] <kailer> k cause i just configured xine and went to make it and its been going for quite awhile
[02:50] <bob2> eltano: this obviously is not a spanish-speaking channel
[02:50] <eltano> ok
[02:50] <CookedGryphon> eltano#ubuntu-es
[02:50] <bob2> odat: way better to ask your question
[02:51] <bob2> kailer: xine is in ubuntu...
[02:51] <odat> i can not seem to figure out how to delete the items it the trash folder of evolution
[02:51] <bruno> Can anyone tell me how install cedega4.4 on ubuntu 5.04 PLZ ?
[02:51] <CookedGryphon> odat, i use it, y?
[02:51] <newbuntu> !tell newbuntu about caffeine
[02:51] <bob2> bruno: #cedega
[02:51] <kailer> i was installing it because apparently Divx isn't on the system
[02:51] <bruno> bob2, thanks :)
[02:52] <bob2> kailer: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <caonex> Hello, I just installed the breezy preview release; however when i reinstalled my laptop ran out of batteries and there seems to be some packages left so i was wondering how can i run the baseconfig and make sure everything that is installed automatically is ?
[02:52] <cafuego> bruno: /j #cedega
[02:52] <odat> anyone know?
[02:52] <newbuntu> !tell newbuntu about wmv
[02:52] <meko> not bad looks like breezy kicks ass
[02:52] <bob2> baseconfig isn't in charge of installing things
[02:52] <caonex> meko, i agree
[02:53] <meko> can i update to breezy
[02:53] <CookedGryphon> odat, i think it empties automatically on exit
[02:53] <meko> or i have to download
[02:53] <caonex> bob2, whatever it is?
[02:53] <sean783> I like breezy a lot!! great that I joined Ubuntu 2 days into its release
[02:53] <lokadin> hey say i was wondering how to use localizations
[02:53] <lokadin> like can someone point me to a howto?
[02:53] <odat> cookedgryphon: no it doesn't
[02:53] <bob2> meko: sure you can update, it's not a good idea tho, yet
[02:53] <caonex> bob2, the process of installing stuff got interrupted what can i run to make sure everything is here?
[02:53] <benji> is dmix difficult to setup?
[02:53] <bob2> sean783: 2 days into it's release?
[02:53] <bob2> bruno: no
[02:53] <bob2> er
[02:53] <bob2> benji: no
[02:53] <meko> whys that bob2 ?
[02:53] <sean783> 9/9/05 is the modified date on my ISO
[02:53] <bob2> meko: because it's not finished yet
[02:53] <bruno> does anyone have installed the cedega on ubuntu ?
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: #cedega
[02:54] <eltano> help me.
[02:54] <bob2> this is not an Ubuntu question
[02:54] <bob2> eltano: #ubuntu-es
[02:54] <kailer> forgive me if i'm sounding stuid and what now win3 codecs are restricted?
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, nobody helps over there
[02:54] <bob2> sean783: that's not a release iso then
[02:54] <eltano> ya entre nadie hablaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:54] <bob2> kailer: read that page
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, why is not a ubuntu question ?
[02:54] <sean783> development branch :-)
[02:54] <bimberi> caonex: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" should do it
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: because you're using proprietary software that you bought
[02:54] <`fusion> I figured it out mostly :\
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: it's your vendoers repsonsbility to help you
[02:54] <`fusion> I just need to get gnome at 1920x1200, I don't know how
[02:54] <`fusion> :(
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, i wanna install something in ubuntu and its not a unbutu question ?
[02:54] <caonex> bimberi thanks
[02:54] <odat> cookedgryphon: k i just set it up to do so on exit
[02:54] <ompaul> !tell kailer about restricted
[02:54] <bob2> benji: http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[02:54] <odat> thanx
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <`fusion> :D
[02:55] <Stark> What does gtk-WARNING mean?
[02:55] <bimberi> caonex: yw :)
[02:55] <bruno> just wanna some help
[02:55] <bob2> bruno: you paid transgaming for software, and now they refuse to help you use it?
[02:55] <BlueEagle> where did black_ go?
[02:55] <cafuego> Stark: Generally means you can ignore whatever follows.
[02:55] <kewlman> hi all!
[02:55] <qmanman> anyone using the gperfection theme from gnomelooks.org?
[02:55] <qmanman> damn good looking
[02:55] <lokadin> is there anyway to localize ubuntu?
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> eltano /join #ubuntu-es
[02:55] <Stark> Well, I'm trying to start ubuntu for the first time, and that's what it gave me
[02:55] <bruno> bob2, i didnt pay up
[02:55] <holycow> http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=ProjectBluezHandsfree  <-- lol, well i guess we already have the same thingy
[02:55] <bob2> lokadin: you didn't select your language during the install?
[02:56] <bruno> i got a .deb from a friend
[02:56] <lokadin> bob2, can i add new ones?
[02:56] <Agrajag> bruno: then you are breaking the license and the law.
[02:56] <bob2> bruno: that's great; using pirated proprietary software is even more off-topic
[02:56] <bob2> bruno: please just go to #cedega and wiat
[02:56] <bob2> or do whatever else, but do not continue the discussion in here
[02:56] <bruno> bob2, i am under license
[02:56] <Stark> cafuego: I'm trying to start ubuntu, but it crashes when it tries to load the x-server thing
[02:56] <qmanman> bruno: patience is a virtue dude, someone in #cedega will help
[02:56] <bruno> bob2, if u doesnt wanna help just said
[02:56] <cblade> hi  all
[02:57] <bob2> bruno: good, go elsewhere.  thanks and good luck.
[02:57] <mombof> lokadin, , try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:57] <lokadin> mombof, thanks
[02:57] <genbie> anyone can hear sound at the apple.com trailers plz? I just installed mplayer on breezy but sound is not working on the trailers
[02:57] <qmanman> quicktime sucks =p
[02:57] <ompaul> bruno, it is not a ubuntu issue, it is a gaming issue, please take it up with the people so closed the source - after all that is why they closed it, to keep taking to you
[02:57] <Stark> Could someone please help me, I can't even get ubuntu to run
[02:57] <azazel_ubuntu> hey, is there a package that contains the helvetica font? I need it for xfig
[02:57] <ompaul> bruno, talking that is
[02:58] <bob2> Stark: in what sense can you not get it to run?
[02:58] <bob2> azazel_ubuntu: msttcorefonts
[02:58] <bob2> azazel_ubuntu: but you'll need to point X at it manually
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> Stark, what error messages do u get>
[02:58] <azazel_ubuntu> bob2, oh
[02:58] <don824chan> woot
[02:58] <Stark> It crashes when it tries to start GNOME, and I trie to type x-session-manager, and it gives me an error
[02:58] <cblade> can i get help with setup of dhcp scope
[02:59] <CookedGryphon> Stark, what about startx?
[02:59] <Stark> It tells me gtk-WARNING **: cannoty open display
[02:59] <bob2> cblade: you need to ask a question first..
[02:59] <bob2> Stark: of course, you don't have X working yet, how do you expect X applications to work?
[02:59] <cafuego> Stark: Ah, X isn't running.
[02:59] <bob2> Stark: this is a default install?
[02:59] <Stark> I didn't try that one, I'll try it (I'm new to linux)
[02:59] <don824chan> occy: I downgraded to hoary finally
[02:59] <holycow> where is the latest breezy iso located?  i downloaded one yesterday and had issues installing.  i would like to make sure i have the latest iso before posting bugs
[03:00] <vinux> bob2, I fixed my sound. I went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards and did what it said. Works great now :)
[03:00] <cblade> hi bob2 question ?
[03:00] <cafuego> Stark: To start gnome, run 'startx'.
[03:00] <Stark> I'm running off the live disc to see if it'll work first, and I've used the default install
[03:00] <bob2> cblade: if you want help with something, you ask a question
[03:00] <bob2> not "ca I ask a question?"
[03:00] <caonex> bimberi, i guess i have everything. It said everything was ok
[03:00] <azazel_ubuntu> bob2, hmm, the msttcorefonts package just gets an error on my machine :/ "No valid cab files found"
[03:01] <CookedGryphon> lol bob2, ppl asking if they can ask really annoys u dunt it
[03:01] <holycow> !breezy
[03:01] <windex> bob2, can i not ask a question?
[03:01] <bob2> CookedGryphon: it's a ridiculous waste of time
[03:01] <Stark> I tried that, and it gave me a bunch of errors about not finding framebuffers, and tells me to look at a log file
[03:01] <bob2> even more than IRC itself is
[03:01] <cblade> bob2 is there  a way to ask a question?
[03:02] <pvt2> does anybody know how to install logitech cam in ubuntu tnx
[03:02] <windex> why is chanserv in #ubuntu ;p
[03:02] <cafuego> Stop it you guys, he'll explode.
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: wtf
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> CookedGryphon: when it happens constantly, yes.
[03:02] <Stark> I'm using an Nvidia card, if that helps
[03:02] <reiki> ok this is funny...  right now I have absolutely no problems. Everything works. I can do anything I normally did in WinXP. .... ok so I can't use PhotoShop, but I'm learning The Gimp.... I can surf, do email, use office apps, work on my website, listen to CDs, burn CDs, rip Cds to mp3.... I can't think of anything I need to mess with.
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: just ask your dhcp question already
[03:02] <ompaul> !tell cblade about ask
[03:02] <CookedGryphon> cblade, u just asked one right there
[03:02] <glick> hello all
[03:02] <reiki> LIFE IS GOOD WITH UBUNTU!  hahahah
[03:02] <bobby> yes, yes it is
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: you could have fixed it and be drinking a jug of beer by now if you'd asked it to begin with
[03:02] <Stark> what  is the problem with Nvidia cards?
[03:02] <bob2> reiki: great to hear
[03:02] <glick> excuse me, how come the automatic update tool does not automatically notify me of updates anymore?
[03:02] <odat> anyone know how to edit items that are in Places folder in the gnome menu?
[03:02] <cafuego> Stark: Nothing, it's their owners ;-)
[03:02] <ompaul> Stark, simply put closed source hardware
[03:02] <glick> i have to use the command line now and do sudo apt-get update
[03:03] <glick> and then apt-get upgrade
[03:03] <don824chan> hey guys
[03:03] <ompaul> !Tell Stark about nvidia
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> here too, only my winmodem takes some coaxing into action, but apart from that
[03:03] <don824chan> i tried to install wine by saying sudo apt-get install wine
[03:03] <don824chan> and I got an error in return that said its not available
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> don824chan, i can't install wine atm, says bad header or somethign
[03:03] <caonex> i installed ndiswrapper-source, where is the directory located so i can install it?
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> is that the problem ure getting??
[03:04] <bob2> caonex: then uninstall it, you don't need it
[03:04] <cblade> how to setup a scope  dhcp on ubuntu server
[03:04] <don824chan> nope
[03:04] <Stark> I can't start GNOME, though
[03:04] <bob2> caonex: the ubuntu kernels have the module already
[03:04] <don824chan> occy was helping me earlier
[03:04] <bob2> cblade: what is "scope dhcp"?
[03:04] <pvt2> does anybody know how to install logitech cam in ubuntu tnx
[03:04] <pvt2> wer can i find a driver?
[03:04] <caonex> bob2, awsome!! that is for breezy we are talking about right?
[03:05] <Stark> Is there any way to enable NVidia drivers purely through the console?
[03:05] <caonex> bob2, so i just need modprobe ndiswrapper?
[03:05] <bob2> caonex: and hoary and warty...
[03:05] <cafuego> Stark: Sure.
[03:05] <bob2> Stark: how would that help?
[03:05] <Stark> I can
[03:05] <cblade> server give out ip address to client computer
[03:05] <bob2> Stark: and of course, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <bob2> cblade: so what did you mean by "scope"?
[03:05] <Stark> I can't start Gnome, for whatever reason
[03:05] <bob2> pvt2: apt-cache search logitch
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, i am in breezy
[03:06] <bob2> caonex: okiedokie
[03:06] <robotgeek> would anyone know if the microphone on a powerbook g4 is supported? any way to test if it is working?
[03:06] <Stark> My graphics card is kinda old, though... it's a Riva TNT
[03:06] <bob2> run a sound recorder
[03:06] <bob2> whistle
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, so i need the source
[03:06] <bob2> profit!
[03:06] <holycow> wtf?
[03:06] <cblade> ip address range 192.168.100.1 to 192.168.100.254
[03:06] <holycow> wtf!?
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, but i cannot find it once apt is done
[03:06] <bob2> caonex: what?
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, any ideas?
[03:07] <caonex> bob2, ndiswrapper-source
[03:07] <holycow> i just downloaded the breezy iso in 1 minute and 9 seconds
[03:07] <bob2> caonex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*ndis*"
[03:07] <CookedGryphon> holycow!
[03:07] <bob2> cblade: that's greay
[03:07] <odat> anyone know how to edit items that are in Places folder in the gnome menu?
[03:07] <bob2> cblade: install dhcp3-server and read the config file, it explains it all
[03:07] <holycow> CookedGryphon, i gotta burn it to see if its the real thing or some error
[03:07] <bob2> odat: I'm pretty sure you can't
[03:07] <odat> really?
[03:08] <caonex> bob2, makes sense thanks
[03:08] <cblade> bob2 thank you
[03:08] <holycow> ohhhhh
[03:08] <holycow> i t must of been cashed at the isp
[03:08] <glick> how can i make kde applications stop asking for kdewallet passwords
[03:08] <holycow> *hmmm*
[03:08] <holycow> thats the only way
[03:08] <sorush20> I wana run solaris is it any better than Linux
[03:08] <bob2> caonex: ie you have the module already?
[03:08] <CookedGryphon> holycow, lemme guess
[03:08] <holycow> sorush20, depends on your workload and skill level
[03:08] <bob2> glick: #kubuntu, I guess
[03:08] <caonex> bob2, i doubt it i cannot mount it
[03:08] <caonex> or modprobe it
[03:09] <CookedGryphon> oh maybve not, i thought ud maybe dlded a bittorrent seedy thinkgy
[03:09] <sorush20> how old is linux
[03:09] <glick> bob2, im not using kubuntu just kontact
[03:09] <bob2> caonex: and the output of my command was...?
[03:09] <glick> sorush20, almost 16 years old
[03:09] <bob2> sorush20: 14 years or so
[03:09] <bob2> glick: no
[03:09] <holycow> sorush20, the kernel is 15 or so, gnu tools 25, the rest of the system depends
[03:09] <BlueEagle> how come my nautilus hasn't got a File->Script menu? Am I missing something here?
[03:09] <sorush20> and windows
[03:09] <Riddell> bob2: run kwalletmanager and set your wallets to not need passwords
[03:09] <bob2> sorush20: this doesn't seem very ubuntu-support-related
[03:09] <bob2> Riddell: ahhh
[03:10] <bob2> Riddell: perhaps one for the FAQ then :)
[03:10] <ompaul> sorush20, ask google about 1991 Linus Torvalds 1985/1983 and richard stallman
[03:10] <don824chan> Whats Buddy Pounce in Gaim?
[03:10] <CookedGryphon> sorush20, y does it matter? u can't compare widows with linux age, because msdos came b4 windows..
[03:10] <bob2> 14th birthday of the first kernel release is this month, actually
[03:10] <robotgeek>  The dmix plugin supports only playback stream?? what can i do?
[03:10] <maze> tried breezy but to many comercial apps didnt work .. had to switch to foresight
[03:10] <CookedGryphon> bob2, r they havin a party?
[03:11] <caonex> bob2, no output for that
[03:11] <glick> thanks Riddell
[03:11] <holycow> maze, naturally, do you drive cars that are only half made and still in the crash testing stage?
[03:11] <holycow> *look ma, 3 wheels!*
[03:11] <bob2> caonex: packages.ubuntu.com, which package does it say it's in?
[03:11] <holycow> -_-
[03:11] <bob2> (in breezy)
[03:11] <maze> :] 
[03:11] <don824chan> what is buddy pounce in Gaim?
[03:12] <nfinitep1astik> don824chan: let's you know when someone status changes
[03:12] <don824chan> thanks
[03:12] <`fusion> thanks to whomever told me to use that help for resolutoin
[03:12] <`fusion> all in all plus some other things got it working
[03:12] <`fusion> :D
[03:12] <caonex> bob2, the package is ndiswrapper-source
[03:13] <ompaul> maze, that is why there is development and release - if you did not try hoary then you did not work with Ubuntu Release you went into the factory grabbed a few pieces and thought you had a software release 'Buzzzzzzz' Wrong
[03:13] <don824chan> can somone help me with wine?
[03:13] <bob2> caonex: no, you didn't do what I asked
[03:13] <bob2> caonex: find out what package ndiswrapper.ko is in in breezy
[03:14] <bdt1300> I have a question for yall... ok so i set my root password, but how do I sign in as root?
[03:14] <bob2> bdt1300: you can't login to gnome as root
[03:14] <bob2> for obvious reasons of sanity
[03:14] <don824chan> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[03:14] <holycow> ompaul, it frankly staggers the imagination
[03:14] <bob2> don824chan: you're using amd64?
[03:14] <don824chan> i don't know
[03:14] <bdt1300> so if i want to change something as root, ill just have to use sudo right?
[03:15] <bob2> caonex: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=ndiswrapper.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 is what I meant
[03:15] <don824chan> lets pretend I am
[03:15] <bob2> bdt1300: indeed
[03:15] <maze> yeah .. hoary runs great (in 32bit) .. but I want gnome 2.12 ..foresight runs faster too
[03:15] <bob2> don824chan: you really don't know what CPU your computer has?
[03:15] <don824chan> its a POS
[03:15] <don824chan> its not my main computer
[03:15] <don824chan> Its a celeron
[03:15] <don824chan> I just remembered
[03:15] <bob2> caonex: and it shows that there is no need to compile it at all
[03:15] <bdt1300> eewww celeron
[03:15] <ompaul> don824chan, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:15] <don824chan> shutup
[03:15] <bob2> don824chan: then it's not amd64
[03:15] <don824chan> thanks
[03:15] <don824chan> I know
[03:16] <don824chan> i just remembered
[03:16] <bob2> don824chan: perhaps you didn't tell apt to use the universe repository
[03:16] <Madpilot> don824chan: wine is in the Universe repo
[03:16] <don824chan> ok...
[03:16] <don824chan> sudo apt-get install wine is what I said
[03:16] <caonex> bob2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=sourcenames&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[03:16] <don824chan> whats the correct way to say that
[03:16] <Madpilot> !tell don824chan about repositories
[03:16] <bob2> !+universe
[03:16] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[03:16] <caonex> bob2, but how do i load it?
[03:17] <bob2> caonex: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:17] <don824chan> this is my second day on a linux OS
[03:17] <don824chan> so you're going to have to excuse me but what exactly is a repository
[03:18] <holycow> don824chan, no prob, welcome
[03:18] <Madpilot> don824chan: see the msg that ubotu sent you a minute ago
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> is there a ubuntu ppc channel?
[03:18] <holycow> repo is a central storage of software
[03:18] <don824chan> i am checking it
[03:18] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: you're sitting in it
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> ^^;;
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: sankyuu bob
[03:18] <caonex> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[03:18] <caonex> bob2, ^
[03:18] <Versed> I'm right now installing ubuntu on my older g4-450, seems it's going OK so far.
[03:19] <bob2> caonex: I don't think you showed me the output of the command I asked you to run yet
[03:19] <caonex> the find one?
[03:19] <war-totem> can anyone tell me how to tell apt-get to automatically get any dependencies?
[03:19] <caonex> bob2, the output of that command returns nothing
[03:19] <war-totem> this is killing me
[03:19] <Luder> Anyone have Cedega installed here?
[03:19] <bdt1300> Im sorry if im a bother but im fairly new to linux... how do I use the gnome bit torrent?
[03:20] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: what did you need?
[03:20] <dalamar> do you have to do something special in breezy to get mpeg/wmv playing support in xine for instance, I installed w32codecs and its no dice still?
[03:20] <caonex> bob2, let me show you in #flood what i get though when i do find / -name *ndiswrapper*
[03:20] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, I just finished installing it according to this guide ->
[03:20] <Luder> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:21] <war-totem> can anyone tell me how to tell apt-get to automatically get any dependencies?
[03:21] <Luder> and I try running it, but it says cannot be found
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: like in "not asking"?
[03:21] <war-totem> yea
[03:21] <juan_> ?
[03:21] <war-totem> just grab whatever it needs too
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: -y
[03:21] <bdt1300> how bout i rephrase that... where can I find an faq describing how to use gnome bit torrent?
[03:21] <alejandro> hola
[03:21] <war-totem> ok
[03:21] <war-totem> ill try it
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: manpages (man apt-get) will usually tell you such stuff!
[03:22] <alejandro> I a new ubuntu user
[03:22] <war-totem> ok its still not downloading them
[03:22] <ghostmango> hi, I accidently erased paritions ... is there way to restore them??
[03:22] <bdt1300> youch
[03:22] <war-totem> just says the foloowing packages have unmet dependencies
[03:22] <bob2> ghostmango: look at gpart
[03:22] <bob2> war-totem: that's not a a problem with apt
[03:22] <bob2> war-totem: it's a problem with how you configured it
[03:23] <war-totem> oh
[03:23] <bob2> war-totem: paste the full error and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[03:23] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, does cedega install to a specific folder i have to be in
[03:23] <war-totem> ok
[03:23] <kailer> pardon me bob2?
[03:23] <don824chan> the linux community is nice
[03:23] <ghostmango> bob2: so i just need to get a hold of some live-cd with gpart and run it?
[03:23] <bob2> caonex: running find on / is not a very good idea
[03:23] <NeoFax> Has anyone been able to get iPodder to work on Ubuntu?
[03:23] <caonex> bob2, did you say something?
[03:23] <caonex> bob2, sorry
[03:24] <caonex> bob2, i am just desperate but i will not do it again
[03:24] <bob2> caonex: do you have any of the linux-image packages the page on packages.u.c mentioned?
[03:24] <kailer> bb2: the file i want to download is the divx4linux-dev correct?
[03:24] <kailer> bob2*
[03:24] <bob2> kailer: no idea what you're trying to do
[03:24] <jdermer> is there a way to upgrade hoary's firefox to the new 1.5 betas
[03:24] <bob2> war-totem: bah
[03:24] <caonex> yes i do, the ones suggested when you try to install the source right?
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> bob2 i always fun find on / n its done in seconds
[03:24] <mushtaq> hi i have mistakenly deleted my /usr/local/
[03:24] <mushtaq> how to get it back ?
[03:24] <bob2> war-totem: if you have to ask, you should not be installing packages from Debian on ubuntu
[03:24] <war-totem> i psted the error
[03:24] <kailer> tring to install divx codec from hoary extra site
[03:24] <mushtaq> i dont have the backup
[03:24] <fangorious> nalioth, my resolution problem was the monitor refresh rates. the hardware detection probed the right monitor type, but didn't fill in the refresh rates
[03:24] <war-totem> in #lood
[03:24] <bob2> caonex: wtf
[03:25] <caonex> bob2, hold on, i may not
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: ignore the sources
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: remove them
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: do not think about them
[03:25] <caonex> bob2, i do not think i am understanding you
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: so, I pointed you at a page on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: read that page again
[03:26] <alejandro> sorry about, my english it's not very well
[03:26] <alejandro> can i use autocad on ubuntu?
[03:26] <bob2> alejandro: talk to the company that makes it
[03:27] <mushtaq> nalioth, hi i have deleted my /usr/local/ folder how to get it back is there a way ?
[03:27] <pc10> hello
[03:27] <mushtaq> is there are way to get it back ?
[03:27] <bob2> not really
[03:27] <caonex> bob2, ok i read it, you were saying i need those packages
[03:27] <CookedGryphon> i dunno y but in linux, its so satisfying to have files without 3 letter endings
[03:27] <glick> mushtaq, kiss it goodbye
[03:27] <bob2> caonex: where did I say that?
[03:27] <CookedGryphon> is that jstu me?
[03:27] <pc10> i have problem regarding the screen resolution
[03:27] <mushtaq> ok i did
[03:27] <bob2> caonex: I asked if you were using one of those kernels or not
[03:28] <mushtaq> takecare glick
[03:28] <pc10> how to change to 1024x768
[03:28] <Madpilot> CookedGryphon: it's cool, but some apps still like to see them - OpenOffice is the main offender, I've noticed...
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> pc10, what's the prob
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: if you're not using an ubuntu kernel, I'll be might annoyed I spent half an hour o nthis
[03:28] <Madpilot> !tell pc10 about fixres
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> Madpilot, yeah, and the GIMP
[03:28] <pc10> the screen resolution of my desktop
[03:28] <caonex> bob2, i am using an ubuntu kernel but i am using amd64 one
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: BAH
[03:28] <pc10> set 640x468
[03:28] <caonex> bob2, those do not seem amd64
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: do you have a 64-bit windows NDIS driver?
[03:29] <glick> there are rumers that windows vista may be free
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, yes
[03:29] <glick> as in beer
[03:29] <Madpilot> CookedGryphon: the GIMP doesn't seem to mind so much; it'll happily save stuff without a suffix, and re-open it later...
[03:29] <glick> anyone here about this?
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: then go build the driver yourself
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, the one everybody has been using
[03:29] <pc10> fixres?
[03:29] <alejandro> can i run win aplications ? over ubuntu?
[03:29] <bob2> glick: #goaway
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, but i need ndiswrapper
[03:29] <pc10> how can i do it
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: then compile it yourself
[03:29] <pc10> changing my scree resolution
[03:29] <Versed> Switzerland will give away free gold ingots before msft gives away Vista.
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: and, in future, when talking about binary-only crap like ndiswrapper, mention if you're not using i386
[03:29] <CookedGryphon> glick, only some random guy's ravings about how it would make sense, nothign solid
[03:29] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: still there? yeah, cedega emulates a windows directory to install things
[03:29] <glick> if they offer it free i wonder how that will hit linux
[03:29] <pc10> help to change my screen resolution
[03:30] <caonex> bob2, that is what i have been trying to you askk you,sorry for annoying you :(
[03:30] <bob2> caonex: you never once mentioned your architecture
[03:30] <caonex> bob2, i will bob2 i am really sorry
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> pc10, were u here b4 as pc2?
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> pc1 eve
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> even*
[03:30] <alejandro> where can i found this cddega?
[03:30] <MustangMatt> google
[03:31] <pc10> Madpilot, is it the fixres solve my screen resolution
[03:31] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, where is this directory at? i cannot find it after i finished installing it
[03:31] <pc10> how can i use it
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, i downloaded the source not from apt and i cannt compile it
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, gives me an error
[03:31] <kailer> bob2: after installing the divx4linux-dev package what should i do next toplay dvix on Kaffeine?
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, that is when i tried using apt
[03:31] <Madpilot> pc10: please see the msg that ubotu should have sent you a few minutes ago, with a URL in it
[03:32] <bob2> caonex: come on dude
[03:32] <bob2> use some common sense
[03:32] <bob2> "gives me an error"
[03:32] <sono> Excuse me guys, anyone knows if there is it is normal to have extremely long loading times for Open Office 2 @ Breezy AMD64? (I know, it is an unstable release, I just want to know if there is a workaround for the meantime)
[03:32] <bob2> no one but you can see your screen
[03:32] <bob2> you need to paste it to #flood
[03:32] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: it should be on your home or root directory
[03:32] <bob2> kailer: #kubuntu
[03:32] <don824chan> bob2: be nice
[03:32] <sono> s/there/ss
[03:32] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, thats what I figured, but it's not there, perhaps it didn't install correctly?
[03:33] <CookedGryphon> bob2, maybe u should go n have a sit down, rue getting very worked up
[03:33] <kailer> that the channel i should goto toask?
[03:33] <bob2> don824chan: kthxbye
[03:33] <sono> s/if there is//
[03:33] <don824chan> lol
[03:33] <don824chan> hope you got 10bux
[03:34] <don824chan> i think my internet broke
[03:34] <haja> I am trying to play the RTS game Boson and I am getting an error that says "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so cannot open shared object file. no such file or directory... anyone?
[03:34] <caonex> bob2, ok bob i will paste it right now....
[03:34] <sono> Excuse me guys, anyone knows if it is normal to have extremely long loading times for Open Office 2 @ Breezy AMD64? (I know, it is an unstable release, I just want to know if there is a workaround for the meantime) [hehe now it is correctly written] 
[03:34] <don824chan> nevermind
[03:35] <bob2> haja: where did you get Boson from?
[03:35] <MustangMatt> sono: No idea, but how long is "extremely long"?
[03:35] <don824chan> longcat is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
[03:35] <kailer> bob2 was that a channel you were refering me too?
[03:35] <bob2> kailer: indeed
[03:35] <sono> thx MustangMatt, it is taking average 50 seconds to launch the app; thereafter performance is pretty neat.
[03:35] <haja> linuxgames.com I think... should I try synap?
[03:36] <sono> maybe one minute average MustangMatt.
[03:36] <MustangMatt> sono: 50 seconds does seem a bit long but I would say that's about average on my slower machines.
[03:36] <CookedGryphon> haja, have u tried synap for a package with libGL in it?
[03:37] <bob2> caonex: you need a new irc client
[03:37] <bob2> haja: yes
[03:37] <CookedGryphon> MustangMatt, sono, i've neverknown it to load in more than 20 seconds, even on my slow windows machine
[03:37] <haja> CookedGryphon, It comes up with a ton of stuff... not sure which to select lol
[03:37] <sono> I c MustangMatt.  Mine is a AMD64, where OpenOffice 1 loads in less than 10 seconds, that's why I am a little concerned.
[03:37] <kailer> no ones speaking even afteri post
[03:37] <caonex> bob2: hehehe because of the logging out?
[03:37] <don824chan> I wonder if I'd be able to play Warcraft 3 on Ubuntu
[03:37] <haja> bob2, How do I remove boson that I have already installed?
[03:38] <haja> I installed thru terminal
[03:38] <CookedGryphon> haja, well this int windows, it dunt load up every library it finds, if u hvae the hdd space install all of em :D
[03:38] <MustangMatt> CookedGryphon: It loads much faster on Windows than linux for me. I'm not sure if it's because of the starter app that's available for windows or what.
[03:38] <sono> It is right CookedGryphon. One minute seems to be a bug still to be solved.
[03:38] <bob2> caonex: yes, you must be using something old and broken like bitchx or mirc
[03:38] <bob2> haja: depends how you installed it
[03:38] <haja> CookedGryphon, lol... there are 72 packages
[03:38] <bob2> kailer: then you wait
[03:38] <caonex> bob2, i am using xchat hehe
[03:38] <alejandro> every thing it's diferent on linux, am lost, where can i found a manual boock
[03:38] <haja> bob2,  Ok?
[03:38] <CookedGryphon> haja, maybe not then
[03:38] <don824chan> I can't connect to freeciv.org and this makes me sad
[03:39] <haja> hehe CookedGryphon
[03:39] <bob2> alejandro: I hear "linux in a nutshell" is a good book
[03:39] <CookedGryphon> alejandro, if you need help with a specific command type man (command)
[03:39] <_smd_> !books
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - Linux
[03:39] <sono> Maybe it is due to OO2 unstable version; I presume... I hope this gets better for the stable release; I was only looking for a workaround that I have not found online. CookedGryphon and MustangMatt.  Abiword, for its part, is crashing everytime I try to open an OpenDocument file.
[03:40] <CookedGryphon> weird, ah well, this is startign to do my head in, its late and i'm hungry, i'm goind to bed, nite all
[03:40] <sono> the prob is that I have not recreated the error precisely to file a bug on that for AbiWord
[03:41] <haja> night
[03:41] <haja> bob2,  I believe I did sh asds.run
[03:41] <alejandro> after a year try diferents lake, slackware, red hat and mandrake i do preaty well whit ubuntu but my windows way to use the computer make my sell weir
[03:42] <bob2> haja: then you'll have to ask the boson people
[03:42] <haja> on how to remove it?/
[03:42] <bob2> sono: have you filed a bug for both those issues?
[03:43] <bob2> haja: yes
[03:43] <haja> ok
[03:44] <sono> not yet bob2, for two reasons: it seems that the AbiWord crash happens when the files created have certain content tags within.  Could be tables or could be advanced formatted elements.  And I don't know if the OpenOffice2 long time loading can be recreated at any other Breezy 64 system.
[03:44] <ColonelKernel> jade.va.us.dal.net
[03:44] <ColonelKernel> damn xchat
[03:44] <sono> but, bob2, I will definetily file a bug on the latter as fast as I can.
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> if only there was an easy way to do diff channels in bitchx
[03:45] <bob2> sono: if it crashes, it's a bug; if yo ucould include the document in the bug report, that would be awesome
[03:45] <bob2> ColonelKernel: there is...called irssi-text
[03:45] <sono> great bob2, good idea!
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> bob2, arent bitchx and irssi pretty much the same thing
[03:45] <BSG75> if I install breezy previes can I upgrade to full version without having to wipe out my install?
[03:46] <sono> yes BSG75.. technicly you can.
[03:46] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no
[03:46] <bob2> BSG75: of course
[03:48] <don824chan> im trying to download freeciv off of an FTP site and it give me an error "550 Can't change directory to /freeciv/stable/freeciv-2.0.5.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[03:48] <BSG75> LOL .. well .. should I or should I not .. I don't want to have to wipe my system for 2.12 .. really it is a total dissapointment to me
[03:48] <bob2> BSG75: what is a "total dissapointment"?
[03:48] <pc1> hi can someone teach me how to do NFS step by step pls cos im new to linux and this ubuntu...please can someone?
[03:48] <BSG75> gnome 2.12 bob2
[03:48] <bob2> don824chan: then the url is wrong
[03:48] <BSG75> I was expecting much more from them
[03:48] <bob2> don824chan: also, freeciv is in ubuntu already
[03:48] <ColonelKernel> lol starsky and hutch disco battle
[03:48] <pc1> bob2 ur stil online =)
[03:48] <don824chan> oh???
[03:49] <don824chan> hmmm
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> why does ubuntu x86 hate my K8 cpu?
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> it runs like dogmeat on my K8
[03:49] <don824chan> bob2: where?
[03:49] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer-, athlonXP?
[03:49] <sono> BSG75: my experience when upgrading that way from Warty to Hoary, was that I had to manually dpkg-reconfigure some scripts and configuration files by the time of Hoary's final release, to achieve a system, as similar as I could to the Hoary's CD installation. (and I totally disagree... Gnome 2.12 is an interesting step further... less visible to some users maybe, but it is)
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, Athlon XP is K7 :P
[03:49] <don824chan> Its not under Applications > Games
[03:49] <ColonelKernel> k8= sempron or amd64?
[03:49] <bob2> don824chan: did you install it?
[03:49] <don824chan> no
[03:49] <bob2> there you go then
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, AMD64 yep
[03:49] <don824chan> k how do I install it
[03:50] <pc1> bob2
[03:50] <bob2> pc1: you need to hire someone
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> is there a 64 bit ubuntu distro?
[03:50] <Agrajag> yes
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> nice...
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> 64 bit ubuntu on a desktop
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> sorry a laptop
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> sounds SO nice
[03:50] <bob2> there are several
[03:50] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, yes but I wanted to use 32bit ohh well I guess I am using 64bit with force architecture lol
[03:50] <bob2> well, two
[03:50] <bob2> ia-64 and amd64
[03:50] <BSG75> sono: I agree to an extent with u on the 2.12 .. but I am really disspointed that's all .. prolly cause I love gnome and been using it a LONG bloody time
[03:50] <pc1> but no one here knows...even the technicians..cos im living here in mthe Philippines and all only knows WIndows
[03:50] <bob2> pc1: you can hire someone to set it up remotely
[03:50] <don824chan> bob2: how do I install freeciv if its already on the computer but not installed?
[03:51] <Deep6> guys where does ubuntu mount a usb key drive (I'm trying to help someone remotely over the phone recover files)
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, I have been using AMD64 Gentoo since novemember the speed is very nice
[03:51] <sono> I have a 64 bits Ubuntu running at my laptop ColonelKernel, with WifI support.
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer-, out of curiosity - why do people run 32 bit on a 64 bit system?
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> sono, that sounds like heaven.
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: in what sense is it " already on the computer but not installed"? that makes no sense.
[03:51] <Agrajag> ColonelKernel: so they can run 32-bit binaries
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, compatability :P
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: so they can run the whole lot of binary software that's available
[03:51] <don824chan> bob2: thats what you said it was
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> those emachines 64 bit systems are going for a good price now im considering buying one with bill me later
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: no I didn't
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, the 32bit emul libs are only a halfass solution to manythings
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: I said freeciv is in ubuntu
[03:52] <don824chan> bob2 don824chan: also, freeciv is in ubuntu already
[03:52] <sono> It was while Hoary stable ColonelKernel; I just upgraded to unstable Breezy which is a little daring.
[03:52] <bob2> don824chan: you don't have all 15 000 ubuntu packages installed by default
[03:52] <don824chan> bob2 don824chan: did you install it?
[03:52] <don824chan> k...
[03:52] <ColonelKernel> so 64 bit linux doesnt have some kind of 32 bit compatibility layer?
[03:52] <don824chan> so its on my CD
[03:52] <don824chan> right?
[03:52] <BSG75> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the rest of the DEs right?
[03:52] <jblack> colonelkernel: People might do that for a variety of reasons, including not having a 64 bit version and not wanting/able to compile a 64 bit version.
[03:52] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, sure it does but its not perfect
[03:52] <ColonelKernel> that wasnt perfect either
[03:52] <sono> I see, BSG75.  But let's expect the better from Gnome for next releases though.  Cairo inclusion will make a huge difference. believe me.
[03:52] <bob2> don824chan: no
[03:52] <jblack> Another reason is that some software is written with assumptions made on bitsize that will work in 32 bit but not 64 bit.
[03:53] <don824chan> bob2: than can you explain how I install it?
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: yes but 16bit stuff SUCKED
[03:53] <pc1> dabar, can u help me how to network ubuntu PCs altogether?
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> jblack, thats a bummer.
[03:53] <BSG75> sono: that I agree with u on 100% :)
[03:53] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, yes but some people _need_ some apps and a AMD64 cpu is pretty cheap so why bother buying K7 anymore?
[03:53] <jblack> colonelkernel: Thats life for ya.
[03:53] <Deep6> or is there a way to get a root nautilus window to pop up?
[03:53] <theeil> anyone know of a good java ide?
[03:53] <bob2> don824chan: you've never used synaptic?
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> HrdwrBoB, im wondering if the difference between 64 and 32 is as drastic as it was between 16 and 32
[03:53] <don824chan> bob2: nope
[03:53] <bob2> don824chan: nevermind then
[03:53] <BSG75> I am happy to be able to customize my menues :P
[03:53] <BSG75> for now
[03:54] <Clujo> java ide: eclipse
[03:54] <don824chan> bob2: :( I still want to play freeciv
[03:54] <sono> ColonelKernel: There are a lot of work still to be done for a lot of 64 bits apps.  But I installed a 32bits fake root, which lets me run all the stuff that I need for daily work.
[03:54] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, try to install a 32bit package on AMD64... its a pain
[03:54] <paison> Is it possible to install Java Plugins for Firefox without browser shutting down??
[03:54] <jblack> don824chan: I used to lead freeciv development. I got so burned out during development that I can't stand playing any more. ;)
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> sono, I didnt think you could do such things just with user accounts
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> jblack: haha the irony
[03:54] <BSG75> g'nite guys
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> or do you mean 32 bit fake root dir?
[03:54] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, chroot amd64 search for it :P
[03:55] <sono> ColonelKErnel: I use Cinelerra 64 bits for video editing. But it is totally not stable enough.
[03:55] <sono> Right SlicerDicer.
[03:55] <SlicerDicer-> well I am off to nuke the 32bit install and put 64bit back on argh
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> sono, cinelerra is the shizzy though - specially if you have a bunch of random computers sitting around you can use as nodes.
[03:55] <Epix> How do you take a hoary install and upgrade to breezy
[03:56] <sono> have you tried that ColonelKernel?
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> they dont have anything in windows that lets you do that
[03:56] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: the 64bit is nice though
[03:56] <bob2> Epix: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:56] <Epix> thanks bob3
[03:56] <Epix> bob2*
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> sono, i've set up the clusters for it before but I didnt use the program, i watched someone else use the program, but on a 10ghz cluster it sure beats the pants off of adobe premiere
[03:56] <pc1> bob2 any other alternative?
[03:57] <Deep6> guys is there anyway to get a root nautilus window off the live cd?
[03:57] <pc1> please help me have mercy.. =P
[03:57] <jo_e> quick question: when will the new version of firefox be available in the repositories?
[03:57] <bob2> pc1: you can hire people to work on it remotely
[03:57] <pc1> i need to share these Ubuntu machines to each other
[03:57] <SymGeosis> Deep6, sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[03:57] <sono> Was it stable enough ColonelKernel? That could be a very interesting case study with Cinelerra clusters!
[03:57] <ColonelKernel> you dont have to wait all night for a project to render, if you get it set up in an office right you dont even have to move your projects to another computer to render
[03:57] <sono> Just beware multimedia guys, beware of ubuntu kernel and RealTime support for 64 bits.
[03:57] <pc1> but there is no one knows here in my place
[03:57] <bob2> pc1: then hire someone else
[03:58] <pc1> even someone else, none =(
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: er, ubuntu has the letaest version of firefox
[03:58] <pc1> no one knows here about linux
[03:58] <bob2> pc1: hire me then
[03:58] <pc1> no one have tried
[03:58] <pc1> oh
[03:58] <pc1> hehehe
[03:58] <pc1> but ur quite far
[03:58] <sono> Ubuntu kernel is wonderful, but I have never succesfully patched it for REalTime operations.
[03:58] <pc1> what country?
[03:58] <jo_e> bob2, I still have 1.0.6
[03:58] <SymGeosis> bob2, he probably means the new beta.
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> sono, it worked fine w no problems, the person was still figuring out the interface a little bit but that said it gave you the ability to put together pro video presentations no problem and the cluster made the wait time a lot shorter
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: which is the latest release
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: oh, the beta? probably never.
[03:58] <pc1> i tot ur a member of wiki to help new users of ubuntu =(
[03:59] <don824chan> bob2: I found freeciv on Synaptic and am installing it now.  Thanks for your help /sarcasm
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> the problem is that video studios tend to not want their projects done on free software
[03:59] <jo_e> bob2, oh, I didn't know it was still beta
[03:59] <bob2> pc1: "tot" is not a word
[03:59] <pc1> tot = thought
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> but for an office it makes a lot of sense
[03:59] <robotgeek> :)
[03:59] <pc1> lol
[03:59] <bob2> don824chan: sorry, I feel really guilty about not investing yet more unpaid hours into helping someone read the wiki
[03:59] <Tidus> lol deer park beta1 is in my other boxes package manager
[03:59] <BSG75> sorry guys .. quick brain fart .. how do I turn off esd under gnome pls
[03:59] <sono> I am so impressed ColonelKernel.  I have worked short projects with Cinelerra, specially because of the unstable compilation I achieved on Ubuntu.
[03:59] <bob2> I'm not sure what "tot ur a member of wiki" is supposed to mean
[03:59] <bob2> BSG75: system -> preferences -> sound
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> sono, I didnt use ubuntu when I did it
[04:00] <pc1> i mean i thought your a member of wiki those who help new users of ubuntu
[04:00] <BSG75> thank you bob2
[04:00] <ksmurf> I'm in BIG poo-poo. I broke my wife's system upgrading to breezy.  She has a ATI 9000 AIW that's not working and nor is her DWL-G520 wireless card.  Will anyone help me?
[04:00] <pc1> like anybody else here
[04:00] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: ROFL
[04:00] <pc7> help
[04:00] <BSG75> ksmurf: I ahve the wifi working under my wife's .. I had to use ndiswrapper 1.1 .. if I remember right
[04:00] <SymGeosis> ksmurf, I'd recommend re-installing hoary. ;-)
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: you've been pointed at multiple pieces of documentation
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> i used fedora at the time, that was with fc1 and an openmosix cluster - I dont know if I could do it anymore b/c theres no openmosix for 2.6 and i've never messed with any other kind of clustering
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: you either didn't read them or didn't understand them
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: if the latter, you never explained what the issue was
[04:01] <ksmurf> I know the idea of me not getting any may be funny but I really don't like the idea
[04:01] <BSG75> ksmurf: I did it from scracth no dep packages
[04:01] <pc1> maybe...
[04:01] <bob2> now you're just being rude and irritating
[04:01] <ironuckles> How do I add include paths for g++? I want to use glib.h in a c++ file
[04:01] <BSG75> g'nite guys
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> so you might want to hold off on being impressed
[04:01] <paison> Has anyone successfully installed Java Plugins for Firefox without browser constantly shutting down??
[04:01] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i would think you're slightly misguided.
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: so, you didn't actually bother to read those pages?
[04:01] <bob2> that's pretty obnoxious
[04:01] <pc1> cos im still new to this linux thts why i dont understnd the things
[04:01] <sono> I must confess though, that I had to buy a MainActor licence for Linux to finish some work.  But, please... even it is a good piece of software, it doesn't matter... just don't do it and support cinelerra dev, or better: upcoming PiTiVi
[04:01] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: IIRC there's an openmosix kernel for 2.6 now
[04:01] <pc1> i have read
[04:01] <Tidus> lemme check
[04:01] <pc1> i read it hoinest
[04:01] <robotgeek> ksmurf: you might have to do the whole ndiswrapper thing again :(
[04:01] <pc1> honest
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, WHA WHA WHA _- where?!?!?! that rules
[04:02] <Flying-Penguin> how do I get  openldap for ubuntu?
[04:02] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i'm looking now lol
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc7> help
[04:02] <pc1> anyway, il reread it and try it again
[04:02] <Epix> does transcode work in ubuntu?
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc1> waaaaaaaa
[04:02] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: gack.  sorry bout that.  it was grsec for 2.6 i was thinking of, and my brain had a quick farting session
[04:02] <bob2> pc1: please stop it
[04:02] <ksmurf> robotgeek ... i didn't do that the first time. hoary picked it up with madwifi.
[04:02] <Tidus> latest openmosix is 2.4.30
[04:02] <pc1> pc7 is in need of help too hahahaha
[04:02] <pc1> ok sori
[04:02] <ColonelKernel> Download openMosix-2.4.26-1.bz2
[04:03] <pc1> ok ill re read it and try it again if i can get it done
[04:03] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, :(
[04:03] <robotgeek> ksmurf: try inserting the madwifi module again, and try
[04:03] <ColonelKernel> if I knew enough Hebrew, i'd go to Israel and ask the profs about it
[04:04] <ColonelKernel> i'd offer to take either one of those guys and their wife out to dinner somewhere nice and ask them about getting OM for 2.6
[04:04] <pc1> bob2 are u mad at me? =(
[04:04] <Tidus> sort flood
[04:04] <Tidus> short flood*
[04:04] <Tidus> [ Results for search key : openmosix-sources ] 
[04:04] <Tidus> [ Applications found : 1 ] 
[04:04] <Tidus> *  sys-kernel/openmosix-sources Latest version available: 2.4.30-r3
[04:05] <Flying-Penguin> HOW do I get openldap for ubuntu???
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> wow thats newer than the one on the openmosix website
[04:05] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: for some odd reason i'm also seeing a 2.6.12 version of the openmosix sources
[04:05] <bob2> Tidus: what program is that output from?
[04:05] <ilba7r> anyone know the forum for breezy roadmap what is being included and what is deferred
[04:06] <Tidus> bob2: the portage package manager under gentoo linux... my ubuntu box is being redone
[04:06] <ilba7r> !breezy
[04:06] <pc1> another problem. how to make the resolution of this ubuntu into 1024x768 ? there is none in the resolution setup
[04:06] <Madpilot> ilba7r: search the wiki, I think a lot of that info is there
[04:06] <pc7> in terminal, what's d next command "you have new email"
[04:06] <robotgeek> pc1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <pc1> ok ok il try =)
[04:07] <ilba7r> i had a spcecific page unfourtanetly myh mother board mulfunctioned and am using another pc now
[04:07] <ilba7r> tjhanx madpilot
[04:07] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: http://openmosix.snarc.org
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, i saw that when I used gentoo too - but I didnt know how to take advantage of it
[04:07] <happy_broccoli> how easy is it to update from preview release to full release
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> uh oh
[04:07] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i'm seeing a 2.6 version of openmosix
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> this may very well mean a move back to gentoo - but I really dont like gentoo at all
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> working with gentoo is like working on a 1980's cadillac
[04:08] <SlicerDicer> how so?
[04:08] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: you can download the patches yourself and apply them to the vanilla 2.6.12 kernel
[04:08] <Flying-Penguin> does no one like to awnser to me????????????????????????????????
[04:08] <dalamar> nope
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> 10 million config files that constantly need editing
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> happy_broccoli: very easy to move, near impossible to move back when thigns don't work the way you expected them to :)
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, penguins don't fly
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> most of which I'll have to admit I dont know how to do
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: please stop being so obnoxious
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and then re-ask your question, with more specifics
[04:09] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i thank a little program under gentoo called dispatch-conf that takes care of most of that for me
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> thanks bob2
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> I will say this for gentoo - they have made the compile flags rather easy to do nowadays
[04:09] <happy_broccoli> HrdwrBoB: so if i download this breazy preview, when the final comes in october, what do i do
[04:09] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: have you personaly checked all penguins?
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: do you mean "How do I install the OpenLDAP LDAP server?"?
[04:09] <vladuz976> anybody know how to use dvd::rip?
[04:09] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I was trying to make the new wine
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> happy_broccoli, unless you really like to patch daily and have things break... DonT
[04:09] <Tidus> vladuz976: i do... /msg me
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: so say that
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, webpage please? I liked the performance of gentoo, it was scary, but going from gnome 2.8 to gnome 2.10 really screwed up my sound
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> I hated it
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> happy_broccoli: to upgrade to breezy all you have to do is change 'hoary' in your sources.list to 'breezy'
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I got an error someone said I needed openldap that simple
[04:10] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: webpage for?
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: instead of useless vague and confusing questions like you did above
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then tell us that, duh
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I don't know more than that! I say what I know
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> Gnome 2.12 rocks
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: no, you did not mention that it was an error from wine
[04:10] <dalamar> i installed the preview today, some little issues but nothing system crippiling
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> I didnt even know gnome 2.12 existed
[04:10] <don824chan> is there a Microsoft Access-esque Database tool with OpenOffice that i can use?
[04:10] <happy_broccoli> HrdwrBoB: does hoary use x.org ?
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: This has nuthing to do with wine
[04:10] <bob2> ColonelKernel: only came out last week
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, of breezy?
[04:10] <bob2> 12:09:51  Flying-Pengui |  bob2: I was trying to make the new wine
[04:11] <dalamar> nomasteryoda, yeah
[04:11] <pc1> haha, damn, the PC which i supposed to fix its resolution has fixed itself when i turned it on...lol, i dont kow why robotgeek.
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: it has to do with someone saying that I needed openldap to do my make right
[04:11] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: what on earth are yo utalking about?
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:11] <mik3_> what command would i use to check the size of a directory in human readable numbers
[04:11] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then stop talking, think about your question and ask it again, including all the relevant information
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: "Flying-Pengui |  bob2: I was trying to make the new wine" backgroud, you said you wanted more
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, actually has been better on my laptops than suse...
[04:11] <climhazzard> hey can you guys help me out? im installing ubuntu onto an external usb drive..install goe sfine, but grub keeps giving me a boot error
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> all I know is
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: "vitaliy_m you need openldap"
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> even considering 150 diff patches every other day
[04:12] <_chavo> Flying-Penguin, sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev
[04:12] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: are yo utrying to compile wine or not?
[04:12] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: nvm
[04:12] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if so, stop being useless and ru nthe command I gave you
[04:12] <Flying-Penguin> _chavo: thank you
[04:12] <bob2> if not, your question makes no sense at all
[04:12] <mik3_> what command would i use to check the size of a directory in human readable numbers
[04:12] <bob2> mik3_: du -sh dir
[04:12] <dalamar> nomasteryoda, never ran suse, but switched to ubuntu from fedora core 4 and like it alot more, was iffy about moving to breezy but everything I do/use in hoary is working so no worries ;)
[04:12] <setite> hello people
[04:12] <ColonelKernel> mik3_, df -h I think
[04:12] <setite> bob2, hello
[04:12] <ColonelKernel> du sorry
[04:13] <climhazzard> anyone ?
[04:13] <setite> yoda's here
[04:13] <setite> wow i havent seeen him in a while
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> setite, hey
[04:13] <ColonelKernel> climhazzard, whats the error
[04:13] <bob2> climhazzard: do you have any reason to believe that will work?
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, good
[04:13] <setite> climhazzard, whats your issue... i doubt i can help but ill try
[04:13] <climhazzard> error 21
[04:14] <climhazzard> grub isn't set up right or something..i can't boot windows or anything, it just gives me and error and thats it
[04:14] <setite> !error21
[04:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, setite
[04:14] <carlson> i know this question is a bit hard, but on gnome how i can change the position of those 3 buttons ()min, max, close) from the top_right  to top_left?
[04:14] <setite> oh thats the xbox room that has the errors on the bot
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> booting?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> grub error?
[04:14] <climhazzard> yeah
[04:14] <_chavo> carlson, run gconf-editor
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:14] <bob2> carlson: you mean in metacity? you need a new theme
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> just googled for that
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> looking
[04:15] <ColonelKernel> climhazzard, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00082.html
[04:15] <setite> climhazzard, did you look the error uip on the forum
[04:15] <climhazzard> i did
[04:15] <Badboy> Hey anyone know any good Linux Software thats also good for web hosting? Not including Ubuntu and Gentoo, because both of them won't work.
[04:15] <climhazzard> but nothing is fixing it
[04:15] <carlson> bob2,  I installed a cool theme, but i want the position of these buttons inverted with the system menu
[04:15] <ColonelKernel> Re: GRUB error '21' problem *solved*
[04:15] <happy_broccoli> Badboy: debian?
[04:15] <setite> go to that link from ColonelKernel it has a fix
[04:15] <bob2> carlson: then modify the theme
[04:15] <_chavo> carlson, then fo to apps -> metacity ->general
[04:15] <setite> !themes
[04:15] <bob2> Badboy: er, both work fine
[04:15] <ubotu> themes is probably at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[04:15] <dalamar> they wont work? sounds like user error to me ;)
[04:15] <_chavo> bob2, it's not a theme thing
[04:15] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: what? how will they not work?
[04:15] <bob2> Badboy: if they didn't, it's beause you misconfigured it.
[04:15] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: or do you just not know how?
[04:16] <_chavo> it's a metacity setting
[04:16] <bob2> Badboy: perhaps yo ushould rephrase your question to help us figure out what you did wrong?
[04:16] <climhazzard> where is the grub.conf located nayway?
[04:16] <bob2> _chavo: oh, I stand corrected
[04:16] <Badboy> Gentoo says my processor sucks
[04:16] <_chavo> carlson, did you see what I said
[04:16] <bob2> carlson: I'm sorry, my mistake
[04:16] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: I doubt that
[04:16] <carlson> _chavo,  hey man, you're great! it worked
[04:16] <_chavo> cool
[04:16] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: gentoo supports every processor on this earth just about lol
[04:16] <carlson> bob2, thanx, too man
[04:16] <Badboy> Hey anyone know any good Linux Software thats also good for web hosting? Not including Ubuntu and Gentoo, because both of them won't work. Gentoo says my processor needs to support 64 bit I think and Ubuntu keeps giving error 25
[04:16] <Badboy> Sorry about the beggining
[04:16] <Badboy> :-)
[04:16] <pc1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is quite complicated for me, any other way tht can fix resolution problem?
[04:17] <dalamar> use windows
[04:17] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: get the x86 livecds? learn how to use linux? ask questions that have bearing on what you did wrong?
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: no, no OS will work if you fail to read the instructions
[04:17] <Badboy> I'm serious
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: if you want help with ubuntu, you need to actually explain what you did, and hwo you came to have "error 25"
[04:17] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: we are too
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: sometimes in order to fix your problem you may have to learn new things or do complicated things
[04:17] <Badboy> Fine
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: if you want help woith gentoo, #gentoo
[04:17] <Badboy> ok
[04:17] <Badboy> no i want ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: both of your issues appear to be user error
[04:18] <pc1> ok ok
[04:18] <Badboy> so listen
[04:18] <bob2> Badboy: then don't come in here askign such a silly question
[04:18] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: if you want to learn how to use linux read some info on it go to wiki's go to forums read read read
[04:18] <pc1> but is there any other way that is more user freindly?
[04:18] <bob2> carlson: come in and say "I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I get error 25 when I ..."
[04:18] <Badboy> I know how to use linux, it works fine on my 2 other computers
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: not at this time
[04:18] <Badboy> I made a sucky computer with horrible parts
[04:18] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: learn to read errors properly give detailed information on what it says
[04:18] <Badboy> Heres the problem with Ubuntu
[04:18] <pc1> damn =( i didnt understand some of the configuratin in tht sudo thingy when i entered... =-(
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, what the name of the config file app that will take care of the ridiculous amount of config files one needs to edit every time they emerge world?
[04:19] <SlicerDicer> take error paste into google Badboy
[04:19] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO and put it on the Boot CD
[04:19] <bob2> what is a "boot cd"?
[04:19] <Badboy> just listen first, please
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: you could always ask, rather than simply stating you don't understand
[04:19] <setite> whats better than KGET
[04:19] <setite> kget breaks my .deb's
[04:19] <carlson> bob2, what?
[04:19] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: etc-update? kinda dangerous to use though
[04:19] <pc1> fine
[04:19] <pc1> il try
[04:19] <bob2> Badboy: then put your entire sentences on single lines
[04:19] <Badboy> ok
[04:19] <bob2> Badboy: this one phrase per line thing is irritating
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> and I want to find the absolute optimum GCC settings I can use for a pentium4 2.6 ht northwood
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> setite, how so?
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> setite, wget?
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, that would be the reason I use ubuntu instead of gentoo
[04:20] <pc1> ok il transfer to the PC where the resolution is so big
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: -O17
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> that and the community - Gentoo community is nice too though
[04:20] <Tidus> setite: just use wget from the terminal
[04:20] <afaik> is there some way to format a drive as vfat under linux?
[04:20] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: I dont know drake about pentiums sorry
[04:20] <packman_e> hello all
[04:20] <ishtvan22> afaik: yes
[04:20] <jdermer> does 5.10 not have root terminal ?
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> people dont bitch at you for wanting to optimize things in gentoo, so that takes care of like 90% of the harassment I get for stupid questions
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, sure it does
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, you an amd guy?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> not root login
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: /join ##gentoo-pub lol
[04:21] <afaik> ishtvan22, tell me more :)
[04:21] <jdermer> where
[04:21] <mik3_> thanks
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: don't waste your time
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, that sounds frightening.
[04:21] <afaik> I am in desperate need to quickly format an external usb drive as vfat
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> bob2, lol
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: it's not.
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, you mean a menu item?
[04:21] <afaik> it is currently ntfs, rendered unuseable from linux
[04:21] <jdermer> i dont see it in applications ---> system tools ---> root terminal
[04:21] <jdermer> yea
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> bob2, im ust talking for my server - ubuntu stays on my desktop
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: you're never going to get enough of a boost to make it worth the time we've even spent talking about it here
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: it's an unofficial channel where you can just hang out and get your questions answered with minimal hassle.
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: it's even less worth it then
[04:21] <setite> hey how do i install kde themes... the theme manager isnt finding the theme files in the folder
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> theres no way in hades i'd run gentoo on my desktop
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: how much of the time does your kernel even run on your CPU?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> jdermer,  well, I have always done the sudo -s in a terminal...
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: maybe 1%
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: so divide any speed up you think you might get by 100
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> I like to use gentoo on a server because I set it up once with stage 3, optimize it, emerge -e world, and then leave it the hell alone
[04:22] <afaik> ishtvan22, please tell me... I have apt-cache searched for mkfs.vfat and didn't find it
[04:22] <Tidus> bob2: on gentoo, you compile everything you install
[04:22] <Cashel> howdies
[04:22] <ishtvan22> afaik: what partitioner are u going to use?
[04:22] <packman_e> hey guys i have a bit of a problem when viewing videos. it seems that anytime i try to play a video it is always out of sync (video/audio) is there any way to correct this please
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> jdermer,  so I'll not miss it... you can recreate it... using the gksudo command
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> i use centos right now on server though
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> its so solid
[04:23] <Cashel> has anyone been able to use xvidtune in hoary?? Is it just me having problems? :P
[04:23] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO on to a blank CD and ran it on my computer. It asked if I wanted default and I hit enter. I finished all the steps and it partitioned my Hard Drive and told me to remove the CD from the drive, so it can reboot. It rebooted and loaded GRUB and while it was loading, it said Error 25 and nothing happens. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how I can solve the problem,...
[04:23] <Badboy> ...please PM me or just tell me in this room. Also, if anyone knows any good Linux Software that's good for hosting your website please share.
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, check you dma settings
[04:23] <jdermer> nomasteryoda, wuts the password tho
[04:23] <ishtvan22> afaik: in cfdisk there is multiple fat things
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> I am on the chat channel but theres nothing on it that doesnt work , not that I dont know how to fix
[04:23] <bob2> Tidus: yes, I know, which is a waste of time
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, same as your first user
[04:23] <afaik> ah, so I just use cfdisk to format it?
[04:23] <Tidus> Badboy: apache2 is the webserver
[04:23] <jdermer> k
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> you I would guess
[04:23] <jdermer> and wuts the gksudo ?
[04:23] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, what is dma settings?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> a gtk sudo "login" box
[04:24] <jdermer> k
[04:24] <afaik> also, the usb drive is labeled as 140 gigs, but seems to really have 160 gigs... if I destroy those partitions and create one partition, will it break things?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell packman_e about hdparm
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell packman_e about dma
[04:24] <afaik> there are currently about 4 partitions?
[04:24] <afaik> should I even use fdisk on it?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, hope that helps
[04:24] <afaik> or just format the biggest part to be safe?
[04:25] <Cashel> !tell cashel about xvidtune
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can set it with sudo hpdarm -d1 /dev/hda (if hda is your first hd)
[04:25] <Badboy> Any answers people???
[04:25] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO on to a blank CD and ran it on my computer. It asked if I wanted default and I hit enter. I finished all the steps and it partitioned my Hard Drive and told me to remove the CD from the drive, so it can reboot. It rebooted and loaded GRUB and while it was loading, it said Error 25 and nothing happens. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how I can solve the problem,...
[04:25] <Badboy> ...please PM me or just tell me in this room. Also, if anyone knows any good Linux Software that's good for hosting your website please share.
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, and use xine
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: please stop it
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: a) don't repeate
[04:25] <Badboy> Sorry
[04:25] <Badboy> Just desperate
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: b) your "hosting software" questoin is stupid, just use apache like everyone else.
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> Badboy, too much caffeine?
[04:25] <packman_e> i think it is totem that runs when i try and watch the music videos
[04:25] <Badboy> Yea
[04:26] <Badboy> But I want a good Linux software
[04:26] <Madpilot> Badboy: your main issue I have no idea about. but apache is in Ubuntu's repos...
[04:26] <pc6> hi its me pc1, lol, ubuntu has mercy on me, he fixed by himself after i entered the sudo thingy for fixing resolution problem..its fixed now. anyway, thanks guys..ill need ur help if il have to set things here...until then. have nice day
[04:26] <Madpilot> !tell Badboy about lamp
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can right click a video file and choose open with
[04:26] <bob2> Badboy: apache
[04:26] <ironuckles> Badboy, how was your drive partitioned before installing Ubuntu?
[04:26] <packman_e> ahh
[04:26] <packman_e> does xine have a play list
[04:26] <Badboy> No, it was partitioned during the installation
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, and Ubuntu/gnome will put an entry there... much like winders
[04:27] <ishtvan22> afiak: in cfdisk you can manage all the partitions
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> does
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can also change the default application used for videos
[04:27] <packman_e> ahh
[04:27] <packman_e> sweet
[04:27] <packman_e> sorry btw i am a newb
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:27] <SlicerDicer> umm wtf is up with nvidia drivers and ubuntu?
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:27] <ironuckles> Badboy, were you running Windows on this drive prior to installing Linux?
[04:27] <bobby> SlicerDicer, nothing?
[04:27] <Badboy> No
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, nothing from my point of view
[04:28] <Badboy> New Drive
[04:28] <Badboy> 80 GB IDE
[04:28] <packman_e> ijust installed 2 days ago and updated it
[04:28] <packman_e> it seems like a nice distro
[04:28] <bob2> Badboy: is it the first disk?
[04:28] <SlicerDicer> well apparently bobby and nomasteryoda the damn thing is not working right... it wont give me the speeds I am usto in fps I get about 1/3rd normal
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> certainly packman_e yes
[04:28] <packman_e> and eventhough it has a lot of software it does not feel bloated
[04:28] <Badboy> bob2: What do you mean?
[04:28] <bobby> SlicerDicer, are you using nv or the official nvidia drivers?
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, er, did you install the nvidia drivers ...
[04:29] <bob2> Badboy: is it the primary master?
[04:29] <Badboy> No
[04:29] <Badboy> slave
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, ubuntu is very fast...
[04:29] <SlicerDicer> bobby: and nomasteryoda when I run glxgears it does not give me speed readouts or anything.... yes nvidia drivers are installed and they are the ones in multiverse IIRC
[04:29] <Cashel> any one here every get xvidtune to work on hoary?? Doesnt for me and I cant figure out why...
[04:29] <teeagoo> somebody help-me: Erros foram encontrados durante processamento de:
[04:29] <teeagoo>  at
[04:29] <teeagoo>  ubuntu-standard
[04:29] <teeagoo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, so you get that nice Nvidia white screen?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> on login
[04:30] <packman_e> one thing that does look a bit weird is that since i installed Kde alot of the entrys on my menus nont have a pic by them, just a grey box
[04:30] <teeagoo> how i force installation?
[04:30] <`fusion> I'm trying to use apt-get, but I keep getting errors about how packages can't be found.  I did apt-get update, anything off the top of anyones head??
[04:30] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: of course
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> just checking
[04:30] <Badboy> bob2: Should it be Primary Master?
[04:30] <bob2> Badboy: does that fix it?
[04:30] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: when I run glxgears it does nothing but spin it does not give a readout of how many fps like normal either
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, there is a switch that can make it show framerates
[04:30] <bob2> teeagoo: a) english, b) #flood
[04:30] <Badboy> bob2: Ill try
[04:31] <bob2> teeagoo: c) tell us what you're doing when you get that error
[04:31] <XoBelLoX> hey every 1
[04:31] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: switch?
[04:31] <bob2> `fusion: paste the error to #flood
[04:31] <teeagoo> bob2, sorry
[04:31] <XoBelLoX> any 1 wont to talk
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:31] <Badboy> bob2: nope
[04:31] <Badboy> Bob2: Still error
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> ' -showfps or some such
[04:31] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, when i tried xine to play music video i get no sound?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, lol
[04:32] <bob2> glxgears is NOT A BENCHMARKING TOOL
[04:32] <XoBelLoX> hey ever1` wats up?
[04:32] <n3trunner> asd
[04:32] <bob2> there is a reason daniels added that flag
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, did you up the volume? i think sometimes xine is muted on load
[04:32] <packman_e> am i doing something wrong?
[04:32] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:32] <setite> anyone have a suggestion for a kde theme
[04:32] <XoBelLoX> 14/f/or u
[04:32] <`fusion> bob2, I pasted it there
[04:32] <nfinitep1astik> setite: default?
[04:32] <bob2> XoBelLoX: this is not a chat channel
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> setite, panther
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> nice
[04:33] <setite> there are alot of panthers
[04:33] <SlicerDicer> well crap if I cant get this fixed I cannot use ubuntu :/
[04:33] <bob2> `fusion: which is true, there is no package called mplayer
[04:33] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, the volume is up but still no sound
[04:33] <teeagoo> when i do "dist-upgrade" i got this error:"E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:33] <teeagoo> " (when dpkg try install ubuntu-standard)
[04:33] <bob2> `fusion: apt-cache search mplayer
[04:33] <bob2> teeagoo: no, that is not useful
[04:33] <bob2> teeagoo: we need the ENTIRE output to #flood
[04:33] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, is some other video app running?
[04:33] <setite> packman_e, what card
[04:33] <bob2> nomasteryoda: stop repeating
[04:33] <bob2> bah
[04:33] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: no its not working its not showing FPS why does ubuntu have to be so damn difficult? In gentoo I just run glxgears and it shows fps why would you not want it to show?
[04:33] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: stop repeating
[04:34] <setite> packman_e, do you have an sb audigy or somethign like that
[04:34] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: well, have to make sure at least someone reads it once. ^.^
[04:34] <bob2> SlicerDicer: because it is not a benchmarking tool
[04:34] <bob2> SlicerDicer: and having it print the FPS encourages people to think it is
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> ty
[04:34] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: no, you're just being annoying
[04:34] <communico> hey, I uninstalled kernel-2.6.11 on Friday. now I want to uninstall it. how does one go about that? do you go into the directory and type make uninstall or something?
[04:34] <bob2> communico: ha ha
[04:34] <bob2> communico: no, delete whatever it installed
[04:34] <teeagoo> bob2, but i use pt-br lang...
[04:34] <bob2> communico: which may be heard, you should have stuck with the ubuntu packages
[04:34] <SlicerDicer> bob2: yeah well its been identical always on my system and now I cant see it... I want to have it show so I dont have to launch a damn game to find out that my FPS are still fubar
[04:35] <bob2> teeagoo: then turn it off
[04:35] <setite> packman_e, you there?
[04:35] <packman_e> no other multimedia app is running. not entirely sure what sound card i am using, as i am using a hp laptop
[04:35] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: alright...i apologize then
[04:35] <setite> oh
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: ignore your "FPS" then, it has nothign to do with anything
[04:35] <setite> then it might be built in
[04:35] <setite> hmmmm
[04:35] <teeagoo> bob2, how?
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: glxinfo will tell you if you have hardware acceleration or not
[04:35] <setite> my fix may not work so much then
[04:35] <communico> bob2: I'm trying to install a raid. someone in this chat told me I needed the kernel ... then someone else told me not to install it, but it was too late
[04:35] <bob2> teeagoo: LANG=C apt-get ....
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it might be an intel
[04:35] <SlicerDicer> bob2: ohh yeah right when I get really low fps I cannot run games right? how the hell am I suposto ignore that?
[04:35] <SlicerDicer> bob2: get real
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: stop being an idiot
[04:35] <ishtvan22> wow, i just checked my glx gears and they run at like 12 fps even tho i can play unreal tournament 2004 fine, any1 no why?
[04:36] <setite> for sb audigy 2 zs and many sb cards ubuntu has the external jack in the alsamixer off by default
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well I am asking serious questions and nobody can give me a answer
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that has nothign to do with glxgears
[04:36] <factotum> hmmm...do I need to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update? I got it running fine right now with "nv" in my xorg.conf, but otherwise I get no usable screen/setup/whatever
[04:36] <afaik> ishtvan22, I used cfdisk to make it w95 fat32, but it does not format it
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: and your question is?
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I realise it has nothing to do with glxgears
[04:36] <afaik> ishtvan22, how can I format it as fat32... under linux?
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: if it's "how do I get glxgears to show my framerate?", it is a silly question
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I want it to work so I can keep running it as I test things to see when the fps start to increase
[04:36] <teeagoo> bob2, dpkg: error processing ubuntu-standard (--configure):
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: if it's "Unreal tournamenet plays really slowly", then that is an actual issue
[04:36] <teeagoo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:36] <teeagoo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:36] <teeagoo>  at
[04:36] <teeagoo>  ubuntu-standard
[04:36] <teeagoo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well yes it does infact and many other games
[04:37] <ishtvan22> afaik: the tool in linux is called cfdisk
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: there you go then
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: jesus christ
[04:37] <afaik> ishtvan22, I used it!
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: you didn't do anyt of the thigns I asked
[04:37] <afaik> it didn;t format it though
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: a) #flood, not here
[04:37] <afaik> it just changed the partition table
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: b) the entire error
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what is causing my fps to be 1/3rd what it is in gentoo then?
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: you followed that?  what did you change since it worked?
[04:37] <afaik> it's an external usb drive though, but that shouldn't matter much, should it?
[04:38] <ishtvan22> afaik: what do you mean it did not format it?
[04:38] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:38] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: stop it
[04:38] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: if you're not going to provide more information, no one can help you
[04:38] <communico> bob2: so going into /usr/src/ and deleteing the linux dir (where I installed it) should do the trick?
[04:38] <SlicerDicer> bob2: Umm it worked properly in gentoo since I went ubuntu it does not work right?
[04:38] <bob2> communico: no
[04:38] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that's not a useful description of the problem
[04:38] <afaik> ishtvan22, the files are still there when I mount it
[04:38] <bob2> SlicerDicer: did you follow that howto or not?
[04:38] <afaik> and it is still ntfs
[04:38] <afaik> so annoying :(
[04:38] <bob2> communico: define "install"
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: yep I followed what that wiki said to do without needing to read it so yeah
[04:39] <ishtvan22> afaik: you need to press write
[04:39] <bob2> SlicerDicer: so, you didn't read it at all?
[04:39] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: alright....i'll rephrase it
[04:39] <packman_e> the thing is, is that when i play the music video in totem, the sound works but when i play it in xine the sound does not work
[04:39] <ishtvan22> afaik: and you will have to type in yes
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: no need I know what to do I have done it before I have used ubuntu before
[04:39] <bob2> packman_e: tell xine to use esd for output
[04:39] <bob2> packman_e: or pkill esd
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what I did is no differnet than what that wiki said
[04:39] <bob2> SlicerDicer: oh, I'm sorry for doubting you
[04:39] <afaik> ishtvan22, I am not dumb
[04:39] <afaik> ishtvan22, I did that
[04:39] <communico> bob2: well I downloaded linux-source-2.6.11 and decompressed it into /usr/src/linux. then I did the make install make menuconfig etc. I didn't change any boot files
[04:39] <afaik> it shows up as fat32 under cfdisk
[04:40] <ishtvan22> afaik: im sorry but i dont know what the problem is
[04:40] <afaik> but mounting it tells me otherwise
[04:40] <bob2> communico: then just ignore it
[04:40] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: if the problem is that samba is not sharing anything, then you just need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:40] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I am just really frustrated trying to figure out why my gfx speeds are 1/3rd of normal.... 3D acceleration works everything works its just 1/3rd speed
[04:40] <ishtvan22> afaik: your fstab may may say it is NTFS
[04:40] <afaik> ishtvan22, but why are the files still there?
[04:41] <nfinitep1astik> i've recently installed samba and am trying to share a folder on my ubuntu ibook.  i've gone through system ---> administration ---> shared folders,and tried to share the folder there with no dice. anyone have ideas?
[04:41] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I figured maybe it was that ubuntu did not like using a K8 cpu on 32bit version so I flopped over to 64bit version but that was not the case so I have no idea what to do
[04:41] <bob2> SlicerDicer: no, of course that's not the problem
[04:41] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: thanks...i'll try that
[04:42] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: there are example blocks at the bottom, just copy and change one of them
[04:42] <ishtvan22> afaik: idk, look in your mount directory with it not mounted
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> nfinitep1astik, so is your nick like the plastic creature from DrWho.... just had to ask
[04:42] <packman_e> bob2, where in the options do you see esd?
[04:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: then what could be causing it?
[04:42] <pc1> the Networking under System tab wont  show up, how to fix this?
[04:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: glxinfo looks fine nothing out of line xorg.log.0 looks fine
[04:42] <setite> hey how do i copy a folder over another in the console
[04:42] <nfinitep1astik> nomasteryoda: actually,it'sfrom nvidia's nfiniteFX engine and p1astik used to be a set of anime t-shirts
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> kool
[04:43] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: thanks for the advice....i appreciate your patience
[04:43] <pc1> the Networking configurator under System to Administration  tab wont  show up, how to fix this?
[04:43] <Damone> anyone can hel me using guidedog
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> pc1, you mean it is there, but it won't launch?
[04:43] <omp> hi ubuntists :)
[04:43] <pc1> ya, it is there and when im going to click it, it wont launch
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> pc1, you can run same cmd ... sudo network-admin
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> in terminal
[04:43] <packman_e> bob2, ah, don't worry i found it
[04:44] <pc1> ok ok il try
[04:44] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: i opened up smb.conf, but it was empty
[04:44] <communico> bob2: I want to install a different one, and I'm kinda worried that I'm installing something over the top
[04:44] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well sorry if I offended you to where you wont help me anymore :/ take care please dont hold it against me I have been fighting this for 5 hours just frustrated
[04:45] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, i just realised, in xine there is no problems with the audio/video sync , where as in totem there is... i wonder why that is?
[04:45] <`fusion> bob2, yeah I know that know, but there is a package called beep-media-player  I get the same error on it as well
[04:45] <Cashel> Anyone know a reason why xvidtune might not work if its not disabled in xorg.conf?
[04:46] <packman_e> bob2, what is that esd thing anyways if u dont mind me asking
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it might be dropping some frames just to make it better
[04:46] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: /etc/samba/smb.conf comes with samba
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, mplayer sometimes is better for me.
[04:46] <Cashel> packman: Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[04:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: then it's time to ask somewhere more useful
[04:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: try on the mailing list
[04:46] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, is that mplayer better than xine?
[04:46] <bob2> `fusion: you're missing the point
[04:47] <`fusion> oh heh
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: that error is apt saying "No, that package does not exist to the best of my knowledge."
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it has plugins for firefox/mozilla too
[04:47] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: correct. i tried to nano it and it opened up empty...so i assume i have to enter in the shares manually?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> apt-cache search Mplayer
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: ahh well I will continue testing I am going to yank all the ubuntu parts of nvidia drivers off remove the module and use nvidia's drivers and see what happens
[04:47] <`fusion> I did a search on the packages website for beep-media-player
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: perhaps you haven't told apt to use universe and multiverse?
[04:47] <Damone>    can anyone help me sharing internet?
[04:47] <`fusion> no I haven't done that
[04:47] <`fusion> if I need to how do I do it :>
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: there you go then
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: it wont hurt as I nuked my system already once doing this all my data is backed up :)
[04:47] <bob2> ~+repository
[04:47] <bob2> !+repositories
[04:47] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:48] <bob2> `fusion: read that
[04:48] <`fusion> yessir.
[04:48] <bob2> and startign a nick with a non-alphanum char is annoying for tabcompletion
[04:48] <bob2> packman_e: it takes control of the sound card, then eveyr other app that wants sound access talks to it
[04:48] <bob2> communico: it doesn't matter
[04:48] <`fusion> lol sorry
[04:48] <fusion`> :>
[04:50] <packman_e> btw is there any software in linux that can help you sync/update stuff on a pda (running ms win mobile 2003)?
[04:51] <ksmurf> ndiswrapper didn't work.... it's looking like I will be celibate for a loooonnnnngggg ttttiiiimmmmeee
[04:51] <jon__> hm
[04:52] <SlicerDicer> bob2: where is the kernel source listed in synaptic? I am not finding it in base system
[04:52] <setite> packman_e, im sure there is
[04:52] <jon__> What card are you trying to use ?
[04:52] <Damone> I need help with internet sharing!!, plzzz
[04:52] <jon__> YOu can get kernel sources from kernel.org
[04:52] <ksmurf> the DWL G520
[04:52] <bimberi> packman_e: have a look at packages with names like "synce" (and maybe multisync too)
[04:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: you don't want or need the kernel source
[04:52] <bob2> and including it in the base system would be moronic
[04:52] <setite> evolution syncs too does it not
[04:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> bob2, I do! I like to compile my own kernels - its fun
[04:53] <jon__> Yeah use Gentoo
[04:53] <SlicerDicer> bob2: thank you
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> it teaches one about how the kernel works
[04:53] <bimberi> setite: yes, evolution can sync via multisync
[04:53] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no it doesn't
[04:53] <setite> ahhh with multisync... ok
[04:53] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no more than compiling glibc teaches you about glibc
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.12-8.12 #1 SMP Thu Sep 1 02:29:24 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <---- woohoo yes it does :P
[04:53] <setite> dunno... i dont have a pda...
[04:54] <nfinitep1astik> whoa...netsplit
[04:54] <setite> whoohoo the splittage!
[04:54] <SlicerDicer> oy death to freenode :/
[04:54] <Tidus> netsplit central
[04:54] <ksmurf> nfinate do you know how to solve this issue I have....lol
[04:54] <Madpilot> SlicerDicer: nah, this happens sometimes...
[04:54] <ColonelKernel> is freenode still under attack?
[04:54] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: what was it bro?
[04:55] <ColonelKernel> those people did that to dalnet too
[04:55] <Cashel> Anyone know a reason why xvidtune might not work if its not disabled in xorg.conf? May as well ask again when I have you all to myself :P
[04:55] <SlicerDicer> Madpilot: I know :)
[04:55] <ksmurf> the ati 9000 aiw and the dwl g520 cards
[04:55] <pc1> hi , i fixed the network to show up already by entering the sudo network-admin tht someone had told me here. now another problem is, i have no sound here in this PC, other pc in my cafe has but this no.how to fix?
[04:55] <bob2> Cashel: "not work"?
[04:55] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: so the video drivers and the wireless ones right?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> and they're back
[04:56] <factotum> hmmm...do I need to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update? I got it running fine right now with "nv" in my xorg.conf, but otherwise I get no usable screen/setup/whatever
[04:56] <ksmurf> yes .... for breezy
[04:56] <bob2> factotum: if you're using the ubuntu drivers, no
[04:56] <Cashel> bob2, I get "invalid mode" requested even if I request the current mode, as if it was disabled in xorg.conf or something, but its not....
[04:56] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: you have a x86 process correct/
[04:56] <ksmurf> yes
[04:57] <ksmurf> on my wife's machine
[04:57] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: go to the ati website and dl the drivers
[04:57] <pc1> no sound in this pc, i have already put all the volume to loudest but stil no sound. how to fix?
[04:57] <Lamia> there we go
[04:57] <Lamia> debian, fedora ?   some overspew channels
[04:57] <Lamia> ubuntu - right on the money
[04:57] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:57] <SlicerDicer> bob2: is there anyway to use ubuntu without it forcing gcc 4 down my neck?
[04:57] <ksmurf> k done
[04:57] <Tidus> pc1: it may have not loaded the right modules.
[04:57] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: as far as your wireless internet goes, you'll have to find the appropriate windows drivers and then use ndiswrapper to port it
[04:58] <pc1> lamia, are u a filipino?
[04:58] <factotum> alright, yeah the "nv" driver works fine, but the "nvidia" driver i have been using just kinda went dead on me, no biggie
[04:58] <Tidus> pc1: what kind of soundcard?
[04:58] <Lamia> I have a question,
[04:58] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:58] <pc1> ahm, il try to see..
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wtf
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: this is not gentoo
[04:58] <Lamia> waht is a good folder candidate name for extras during install
[04:58] <packman_e> tried to open video in mplayer and the damn thing has frozen on me
[04:58] <Stik> omfg at getting sound working :|
[04:58] <Damone> anyone can help me about sharing internet conecction w/linux??????
[04:58] <Lamia> I'll share it
[04:58] <bob2> factotum: if you installed the drivers from nvidia.com., yes, you have to manually unbreak it after each update
[04:58] <Cashel> ksmurf, if you get truly desperate w/ r300 based chips: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html .. worked great for me but had to modify the "rules" file so it didnt try builing the control panel...
[04:58] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:58] <pc1> its via soundcard
[04:58] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I never said it was
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: install gcc-3.4 if that's what you want
[04:58] <pc1> but i dont know what specific model
[04:59] <pc1> but its VIA
[04:59] <fusion`> haha
[04:59] <Lamia> I've a C# app, I want to include Adobe Acrobat,  what's a good name for a folder with those 'extras'
[04:59] <fusion`> bob2, thanks what you said worked
[04:59] <Lamia> or 'proper' name
[04:59] <Tidus> Damone: i know of a little howto on the gentoo web site.  the instructions are general enough to use on any distro... you'll just have to change 'emerge' to 'apt-get'
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> pc1, lspci in a terminal
[04:59] <pc1> ViA chipset souncard under AMD processor
[04:59] <fusion`> now beep won't play mp3's because I have to install the extension I'm told
[04:59] <pc1> oh ok il try
[04:59] <factotum> oh wierd, the one I have was from a repo i added from one of the ubuntu starter guides
[04:59] <fusion`> seems way more difficult than windows, really
[04:59] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I cannot get the nvidia kernel module to build with nvidia's installer its just puking out... The packages provided by ubuntu obviously are not doing the trick so thats why I asked
[04:59] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:59] <fusion`> I'm unimpressed :(
[04:59] <Lamia> lol fusion
[04:59] <Lamia> buit
[04:59] <bob2> SlicerDicer: "obviously not doing the trick"? they work perfectly well.
[04:59] <Madpilot> !tell fusion` about mp3
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> fusion`, just because every virus autoloads on windows...
[04:59] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:00] <Lamia> you're not dependent on #microshaft whores
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: stop it
[05:00] <factotum> i can just do a dpkg-reconfigure... and see if that works
[05:00] <Lamia> !tell me about default folder names
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am so sorry to spam you guys
[05:00] <SymGeosis> Flying-Penguin, apt-get install libxt6
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if you'd stop being annoying and read what I said earlier, you'd be done by now
[05:00] <Lamia> pc1 - no I like Genesis
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: are you compiling wine?
[05:00] <Lamia> damn it
[05:00] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well my fps are 1/3rd normal I am getting like 9fps in UT2004.... I have a 5900XT that normally gets 30+ fps with all settings maxed
[05:00] <Lamia> someone give me a name
[05:00] <Lamia> god damn it
[05:00] <HrdwrBoB> fusion`: unfortunately that can't be avoided due to legal issues which are well out of ubuntus contorl
[05:00] <Lamia> default folder name for extras during install
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I hate when people do, but I realy need to finsh this befor I leave my moms (no internet and I need it for school) my school is above me being nice
[05:00] <Cashel> Flying-Penguin, apt-get install libxt6
[05:00] <SlicerDicer> bob2: its unplayable
[05:00] <Lamia> be a part of history
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: yes I am
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then bloody say so
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then compile it
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: all done
[05:01] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: will that be the newest version?
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: holy hell
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: I told you this an hour and a half ago
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: it installs the wine build dependencies
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:02] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you then compile whatever version you want
[05:02] <bob2> if you hadn't ignored me, you'd be done and drinking beer by now
[05:02] <cusco> lol
[05:02] <Flying-Penguin> SO SORRY
[05:02] <Flying-Penguin> I feal stupid
[05:02] <pc1> this is it ==> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:02] <pc1> how to fix?
[05:03] <pc3> help me
[05:03] <pc1_> this is it ==> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:03] <pc1_> how to fix?
[05:03] <pc1_> no sound
[05:03] <bob2> pc1_: pc3 change your nicks
[05:03] <ksmurf> k I installed the ndiswarpper drivers But it can't find wlan0
[05:03] <bob2> and stop being annoying
[05:03] <pc3> how to copy image in openoffice
[05:03] <SymGeosis> bob2, are you always so openly hostile to everyone?
[05:04] <pc1_> bob2, its ok where in the same room, those are my cuosins
[05:04] <SlicerDicer> SymGeosis: I was just about to ask the same thing lol
[05:04] <pc3> help
[05:04] <Mineyo> wuts a good ftp client for ubuntu
[05:04] <bob2> pc3: no one is going to help you unless you improve your attitude
[05:04] <pc1_> becuase we are putting Ubuntu in my little internet cafe
[05:04] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, gftp works pretty good.
[05:04] <Cashel> this is my cousing daryl and my other cousin daryl
[05:04] <bob2> pc3: line after line of "help" makes people just ignore you and hope you go away soon
[05:04] <SlicerDicer> lol Cashel
[05:04] <bob2> Mineyo: the gnome file manager is a pretty ok ftp client
[05:05] <pc1_> bob2, pls understand him, he knows little english
[05:05] <GoClick> Mineyo gftp
[05:05] <Mineyo> i cant apt-get gftp tho
[05:05] <bimberi> Mineyo: Places -> Connect to Server
[05:05] <pc1_> he is my cousin where in the same room
[05:05] <pc3> help me nevermind the attitude plz help me
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> pc3: people here are volunteers.
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> attitude is everything
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> we are not being paid to help you, so there needs to be alittle give and take
[05:06] <pc3> ok sorry
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, why not?
[05:06] <bob2> this is getting worse and worse
[05:06] <Mineyo> i dont know
[05:06] <pc3> sorrysorry\
[05:06] <pc1_> mine is sound problem.how to fix?
[05:06] <Cashel> pcN(_): You might try letting the best english speaker stay, and the rest of you leave and read over his shoulder :)
[05:06] <GoClick> Mineyo it should already be installed
[05:06] <bob2> this attitude crap scares away all the clueful people
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, did you add the extra repos?
[05:06] <pc3> pls help
[05:06] <bob2> pc3: please stop it
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> pc3: one problem at a time.
[05:06] <GoClick> Mineyo that if you did a standard install, with a more or less recent version of Ubuntu, otherwise apt-get should work
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, if not, you may want to check out the wiki and do a search on "repositories"
[05:07] <pc1_> stil have no sound here, can someone help please?
[05:07] <MrBear> hi
[05:07] <MrBear> anybody get ati card tofully work on breezy?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> pc3, with openoffice, click right on image, copy, paste?
[05:07] <GoClick> !dvd
[05:07] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, as in ati drivers?
[05:07] <Stik> If yer on an audigy turn the stupid optical off.. someone isn't thinking...
[05:08] <MrBear> yes
[05:08] <MrBear> I had it working in hoary I didn the same in breezy but no go
[05:08] <pc1_> stil have no sound from this PC here, can someone help please?
[05:09] <MrBear> just make sure your volume is up on alsamixer
[05:09] <Cashel> pc1_, System > Preferences > Multimedia Selector .. change everything from ESD to ALSA
[05:09] <pc1_> yes its up all. but still no sound =)
[05:09] <pc1_> yes its up all. but still no sound =(
[05:09] <pc1_> ok il try
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, well it is "Breezy"
[05:09] <nickv111> pc1_: Make sure that your master volume is up AND PCM
[05:09] <Flying-Penguin> bob2:  Removing nvidia-glx ... Removing ubuntu-desktop ... Removing x-window-system-core ... Removing xlibmesa-dri ...
[05:10] <MrBear> sigh
[05:10] <pc1_> ok il try friends
[05:10] <russ> can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, about 150 diff patches some days is kinda living on the edge =)
[05:11] <pc3> momasteryoda: no "copy" in right click button. just "view image,copy image location,save image as,send image"
[05:11] <MrBear> well I had video but not sound working in hoary now its the other way around in breezy
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> pc3, so you are edit HTML editor?
[05:11] <MrBear> there is no end
[05:11] <pc3> no
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:12] <pc1_> still no sound came out. maybe ill need to reboot. ok going to reboot...
[05:12] <ksmurf> well it died..... back to hoary for my wife
[05:12] <Damone> anyone can help me about sharing internet conecction w/linux??????
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> pc3, 1.1.4 Openoffice or 2.0 beta?
[05:12] <pc3> its open 2.0 beta
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:13] <spokeydokey> how do I go about setting up my video hardware acceleration?
[05:13] <Cashel> I would be reluctant to tell my girl the name of the os .. "Babe, I think your just right for hoary"
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> pc3, brb in min.
[05:13] <holycow> whoa
[05:13] <pc3> ok, im waiting\
[05:13] <holycow> check out xorg split into modules
[05:13] <holycow> neato!
[05:14] <ksmurf> rofl ... married eght years.... and shes pregnant.  What do I have to lose
[05:14] <Cashel> your pay check?
[05:14] <ksmurf> She gets that already
[05:14] <Cashel> lol
[05:14] <ksmurf> 2700 last week gone in 2 days
[05:15] <Cashel> lol
[05:15] <ksmurf> rofl
[05:15] <duper> join #zaurus
[05:15] <ksmurf> duper
[05:15] <duper> sorry
[05:15] <russ> can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:16] <holycow> russ, yes
[05:16] <holycow> turn down the volume
[05:16] <holycow> -_-
[05:16] <russ> then it doesn't work.
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, still waiting?
[05:16] <holycow> russ, i'm kiddin
[05:16] <holycow> :)
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, this is same person
[05:16] <holycow> i donno enough about audi equipment or why it would feedback
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> in writer?
[05:17] <Cashel> russ, put the speakers further from the mic :)
[05:17] <holycow> i've NEVER heard of feedback on a pc, the levels simply arent great enough or mics not sensitive enough
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> holycow, mine does it if capture is unmuted for mic
[05:17] <russ> Cashel, I don't want what is  going through the mic to come back to my headset
[05:17] <duper> hi all, if there is some good article on how to tweak ubuntu?
[05:17] <Lichte> does postfix in breezy work for anyone ?
[05:17] <Cashel> russ, then disable the mic completely
[05:17] <russ> Cashel, that's how it is now, but im trying to get it to work for teamspeak
[05:18] <holycow> we need an ubunt-dev channel
[05:18] <Cashel> ahhh I see..
[05:18] <holycow> for all the nonsense breezy questions
[05:18] <russ> im on hoary
[05:18] <pc3> yes
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, ok
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> what type of image?
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> jpg, gif, bmp, svg
[05:19] <pc3> i save it as jpg image
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:19] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcyrpt package in breezy??
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, do you see green squares around image?
[05:19] <bobby> I have samba installed and sharing a folder which it can see (smb:///) and it can see the windows network, though the windows pcs cannot see it.  the only extra package I have installed is samba
[05:19] <duper> and inquire how can i uninstall OpenOffice without hurt the system?
[05:20] <frannnn> hey, i have a problem: i have two users and i need one to have 8bit color resolution, and the other one with 18bit color resolution. how should i do that? (total newbie, by the way)
[05:20] <pc3> nothing
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> duper, apt-get remove OpenOffice?
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:20] <bobby> duper, use synaptic and search for open office, tick anything you want to kill and do it
[05:20] <bobby> no hard :P
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3 is it a background image or small image
[05:21] <TheSwami> Hello
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> and is document imported MS Word?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> TheSwami, hi
[05:22] <frannnn> hey, i have a problem: i have two users and i need one to have 8bit color resolution, and the other one with 18bit color resolution. how should i do that? (total newbie, by the way)
[05:22] <pc3> yes, i save as in microst word
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:22] <TheSwami> I was wondering if someone could help me with installation of Ubuntu, Hoary Hedgehog Version.  Im having trouble installing it on my more sophisticated system.
[05:23] <bytefoo> o_O
[05:23] <bobby> ...
[05:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi...ask away
[05:23] <setite> ok all.. im off to windows to play some counterstrike
[05:24] <Versed2> thanks
[05:24] <bytefoo> im pretty sure halflife2 runs in cedega
[05:24] <bob2> TheSwami: you need to be a lot more specific about your problem
[05:24] <bytefoo> :/
[05:24] <bytefoo> though battlefield 2...not so much :X
[05:24] <setite> bytefoo, you would be wrong
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you there?
[05:24] <bytefoo> well it works for me
[05:24] <bytefoo> so i guess i live in crazy land :|
[05:24] <setite> bytefoo, it broke on a recent update in the past few days
[05:24] <pc3> is open ofce 2.0 same as 1.1?
[05:24] <pc3> im using ubuntu 5.10
[05:24] <TheSwami> ok, so I have 2 Seagate 250GB drives running with my mobos Promise Raid controller.  I also have windows installed and running already.  I have 80 RAW space set aside for a linux partition, and 20 is already set as EXT3 format.  When installing Ubuntu, it does not see these partitions and I am worried about ereasing whats already there, if I use its RAID config utils
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, can you make new document and paste new image?
[05:24] <setite> so unless they fixed it in the last 12 hours... its still broke
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, no
[05:24] <bytefoo> hmm
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you there???
[05:25] <setite> you weren't in crazy land... but it broke recently
[05:25] <pc3> ok. i will try. wait
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, 2.0 is beta
[05:25] <bytefoo> it's loading for me... :(
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if you have a question, ask it
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> as well as 5.10 ubuntu
[05:25] <ksmurf> I'm still alive after telling my she's hoary not beezy or warty
[05:25] <bob2> is it really International Be Annoying On IRC Day?
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: well.... when I ran that command of yours... it uninstalled nvidia-glx
[05:25] <ksmurf> lol
[05:25] <ChazZ> that's everyday bob2
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: then it didn't work so I rebooted
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> bob2, hehe yes i think so
[05:25] <bob2> TheSwami: it's not actual RAID
[05:25] <bytefoo> brb
[05:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> what are the system specs
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: then I had to reinstall nvidia-glx
[05:25] <bob2> TheSwami: you'll need to do some fiddling to make linux pretend that it is
[05:25] <setite> whoops wrong date for the breakage
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: now I have this error
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: wtf
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> ../tools/sfnt2fnt needs to be built with Freetype support
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> make[1] : *** [wine_courier-1252-96-13.fnt]  Error 1
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: no
[05:26] <pc3> nothing works
[05:26] <setite> well i cant work p2p
[05:26] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: run the command I gave you.  note down what it removes.  compile wine.  reinstall whatever it removed
[05:26] <Versed`> Well so far so good, got my G4 450 up and running under ubuntu, and it recoginized my airport card.  So far so good.
[05:26] <setite> i cant find where to set the export to 32bit libs
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I already rebooted
[05:26] <ChazZ> i've got a pretty dumb question, but does ubuntu install grub or lilo on install?
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I don't know what it uninstalled
[05:26] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[05:26] <bytefoo> grub
[05:27] <ChazZ> thanks
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: what was that command again?
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: um
[05:27] <vbgunz> Anyone know how to replace the Breezy Location bar with an Address bar?
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you're kinda screwed then
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and why on earth did you reboot?
[05:27] <TheSwami> ok, um, any idea what I have to "fiddle" with?  Im open for mucking around, but I dont want to lose whats already on the drives, thats all.  It makes it pretty clear that I may lose whats there if I use the ultilities.
[05:27] <vbgunz> I got it
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: recompile didn't work...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, it works fine here
[05:27] <vbgunz> it is still called location
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and why did you reboot?
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you should realy tell me all of this befor you have me run the command and reboot
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, right click choose copy and then paste
[05:28] <pc1> i have put all to ALSA in the Multimedia System Selector but still no sound =(
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am a windows user
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: when something doesn't work, we reboot
[05:28] <bob2> TheSwami: yes, that sort of pseudo-RAID is really quite flakey like that
[05:28] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: that's dumb
[05:28] <ChazZ> lol
[05:28] <bob2> and I have no sympathy for you
[05:28] <pc3> does it have right-click "copy" in your open 2.0 beta?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:28] <pc3> really?
[05:28] <pc1> any other alternative to have sound? help
[05:28] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if yo udidn't write down what it reoved, then it's not recorded anywhere
[05:28] <duper> hi, i used apt-get remove --purge and synaptic, but both show me that ubuntu-desktop will be remove also if i kill OO2
[05:28] <vbgunz> but it doesn't stick... If I close out nautilus and restart it, the location bar is a bunch of tabs... How do I keep it looking like an address bar?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, down at bottom of that menu
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> TheSwami....maybe u should ghost your windows drive and make a disater recovery disk b4 u do anything
[05:29] <pc3> i wonder that mine is none
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, did you recently update breezy patches?
[05:29] <TheSwami> ok, thanks bob2 and Sonny_Wertzik, I will try your suggestions
[05:29] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: why didn't you tell me!?
[05:29] <pc3> yes.
[05:29] <pc1> friends, still i dont have an output of sound here in the PC, help me please.
[05:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> i did...and things my work out allright at 1st but linux my not be perfect the 1st install
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> I did mine today but have not restarted X... oh great... mine will be broke too ... joy
[05:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> u may want to reinstall it
[05:30] <Russ[] > can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:30] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: Holy crap!!! I told the people in #winehq what was being uninstalled w00t
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , did you try muting it ? terminal alsamixer
[05:31] <Russ[] > I can do that, but then the mic doesn't work.
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> yea
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> true
[05:31] <pc1> help. no sound here.
[05:31] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: whats that command again?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, just hang on
[05:31] <pc3> help , help
[05:31] <pc1> ok =/
[05:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> sound?? what card pc3?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, did you restart X or reboot after patches?
[05:32] <pc1> i wish i cud u guys someday..i want to be a Ubuntu master too =) so that i can share this nice stuff to my country.
[05:32] <pc3> after  updating the patches. i restart my computer. how can i restart X?
[05:32] <vbgunz> not a big deal I'll just Ctrl+L when I want the location bar :)
[05:32] <Russ[] > pc3 ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:33] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: after I run that command should I restart X?
[05:33] <vbgunz> Anybody have any trouble dual booting XP with Ubuntu with Norton GoBack 4 on Windows?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , thks
[05:33] <ChazZ> has anyone had issues with pcmcia support in breezy?  my graphics card always gives me issues when i change distros on this laptop
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , well he did
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, you bipolar?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> one or the other
[05:33] <ChazZ> whatever
[05:34] <Tzi> Hi!  I'm using Breezy... TCL seems to have broken on my display, even when running exported from other machines.  It's a problem in /tmp/.X11-unix/X0, with the line '{"*Box.background:\tBACKGROUND\n*'.  Wish reports 'unknown color name "BACKGROUND"' and dies =)
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> pcmcia or graphics
[05:34] <Tzi> Any ideas?
[05:34] <ChazZ> it's late i'm tired, nerd juice low
[05:34] <ChazZ> graphics
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:34] <ChazZ> pcmcia is not the issue
[05:34] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: X has nothing to do with any of this
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, what card
[05:34] <ChazZ> ati ...
[05:34] <bob2> windows users have very disturbed views on computers
[05:34] <ChazZ> crap slips my mind
[05:34] <ChazZ> one sec
[05:35] <Octane> grr i hate how gam_Server randomly takes up 100% cpu
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, not an issue at least here... ubuntu ati drivers working very fine
[05:35] <ChazZ> alright
[05:35] <SlicerDicer> is anybody familar with problems on ubuntu with nvidia drivers not giving their graphics card full speed, nvidia kernel and nvidia glx are installed just fine
[05:35] <ChazZ> knoppix and debian give me trouble
[05:35] <pc1> <== waiting for donations of help for soundcard issue,lol.
[05:35] <vbgunz> Bob2 I heard you mention restarting is bad for Windows. Yesterday I installed an Nvidia driver and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" OR "sudo init 1" "sudo init *" worked. I had to restart to see the changes
[05:35] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: but after I ran that command befor the compile didn't work
[05:36] <bob2> vbgunz: yes, you're poking the kerel, that can require a reboot
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: infact it came to error MUCH faster
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, card type?
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: and it still does
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: oh wow that is awesome omg lolz
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: refering to an "error" is useless
[05:36] <pc1> ahm, let me see...wait...
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am sorry if I am stupid... what should I do?
[05:36] <pc1> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you need to show the full error message in #flood or on the web everytime you even think of mentioning an "error"
[05:36] <vbgunz> ahh... is there other kind of reboot like "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" OR "sudo init *" that might have worked?
[05:37] <misterdiff> hi all. how do i upgrade my kernel package? i'd like to recompile my kernel to the latest one but its not in /usr/src/linux. that dir doesn't even exist
[05:37] <bob2> vbgunz: they're not reboots of any sort
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> ac97 controllers are ok IMHO
[05:37] <bob2> vbgunz: if you were only adding the nvidia binary driver, not changing any agp settings, it may have been possible to avoid a reboot
[05:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: you around still?
[05:37] <vbgunz> yup, i still have learning to do :)
[05:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: no
[05:37] <pc1> but why i dont kahve sound? =(
[05:37] <bob2> I have an interview
[05:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-September/047594.html take a look at that I am not out of my gord
[05:38] <snowwoolf> Hi all.  I'm trying to get a software RAID 1+0 setup, but the 5.10 installer doesn't seem to permit it.  Any suggestions?
[05:38] <jblack> bob2: Good luck!
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !esd
[05:38] <ubotu> esd is, like, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[05:38] <bob2> jblack: thanks :)
[05:39] <jblack> bob2: If you want to tell your interviewer that you have american friends that are willing to call the whitehouse and support a carpet-bombing run if they don't hire you....
[05:39] <pc1> i dont understand. so what shall i do?
[05:39] <bob2> jblack: hahahahahaha
[05:39] <pc10> helpppp,,,,command line for changing resolution 1024x768
[05:39] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I put it in #flood
[05:39] <bob2> pc10: please stop it
[05:40] <Madpilot> !tell pc10 about fixres
[05:40] <pc10> why
[05:40] <pc1> paita ani oi! matay.
[05:40] <bob2> pc10: you've gone beyond being annoying into some sort of meta level of irritatingness
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=Add+Sound+Card
[05:40] <pc1> inatay ani oi
[05:40] <bob2> it's like you've ascended
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:40] <bob2> pc1: english or leave, sorry
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> violet level
[05:40] <pc1> ok, just say something to pc10
[05:40] <pc1> its ok
[05:40] <pc10> tell me the site, i did not note it. sorry
[05:40] <pc1> ok sorry
[05:40] <pc1> its our language by the way
[05:41] <pc1> nomasteryoda|w- ok il try
[05:41] <vbgunz> anyone here have any experience with creating a boot disc for Ubuntu? A sort of emergency boot disc so if the MBR got corrupt I would still be able to boot into Ubuntu?
[05:41] <bob2> pc1: yes, I know, but this is an English channel
[05:41] <bob2> and you're already being quite disruptive
[05:41] <bob2> you will have to stop being so annoying or leave
[05:41] <narg> vbgunz: knoppix? :p
[05:41] <bob2> vbgunz: live cd works well for that
[05:41] <narg> There is #ubuntu-es, no?
[05:41] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I guess I will just go back to hoary
[05:42] <Madpilot> narg: yes
[05:42] <bob2> SlicerDicer: ok
[05:42] <vbgunz> truth is I have a USB drive... I cannot seem to install Ubuntu onto it... At least it doesn't start up
[05:42] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that or file a bug so it could be fixed
[05:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: it seems to be a breezy problem
[05:42] <pc1> haha.ok. just want to tell a little to pc10.ok.
[05:42] <bob2> narg: tagalog != spanish
[05:42] <snowwoolf> Is this the channel to ask for help with Ubuntu's RAID support?
[05:42] <narg> tagalog?
[05:42] <bob2> pc1: I'm serious, you're being very disruptive
[05:42] <bob2> snowwoolf: "software raid"
[05:42] <pc1> nope, tagalog is very different to spanish
[05:42] <bob2> snowwoolf: and if no one here knows, try the ubuntu-users list
[05:42] <vbgunz> I apologize, a boot disc to boot into a USB drive is my search... I keep pulling circles on google about it... Is it possible or not?
[05:42] <narg> Oh, I only saw one line of it, it looked similar to spanish to me
[05:42] <narg> sorry ;)
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> bob2, what is the kick command here?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:43] <jsgotangco> if you need tagalog support, go to #ubuntu-ph
[05:43] <bob2> vbgunz: your bios can't do it?
[05:43] <snowwoolf> thanks bob2
[05:43] <SlicerDicer> bob2: its already on the mailing list I am sure bugs have been filed
[05:43] <pc1> wow! is there a tagalog support there?
[05:43] <pc1> is it true?
[05:43] <bob2> SlicerDicer: go check
[05:43] <bob2> pc1: why don't you just have a look?
[05:43] <pc1> fine
[05:43] <SlicerDicer> bob2: umm no?
[05:43] <vbgunz> my bios doesn't seem to boot the USB device and when I went inside the BIOS setup it doesn't even seem to support it :(
[05:44] <bob2> SlicerDicer: right, so it may never be fixed then
[05:44] <Madpilot> vbgunz: is there a more up-to-date version of your BIOS you can flash in?
[05:44] <jsgotangco> pc1, indeed
[05:45] <vbgunz> not sure... I have an OEM Emachine... They haven't released an update since I bought it...
[05:45] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what on this green earth would make you think I would even like to help given how you treated me over something that was a bug with the system.... You were a asshole to me in a round about way saying I was not knowing what I was doing...
[05:45] <vbgunz> about less than a year ago
[05:45] <pc1> oh jsgotangco, i hav read ur post about the raid here in the Philippines =)
[05:45] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wtf
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> yes, i think we have hit a lowpoint tonight bob2
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:45] <drapelyk> anyone free to help a noob use OpenSSH?
[05:45] <SlicerDicer> bob2: shall I pull my logs and paste it to rafb what you said so you can have your memory jogged?
[05:45] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I don't care if nvidia drivers work in ubuntu. at all.  you do.  if you want it to work for you in breezy (which comes out in 3 weeks), you need to report the issue.
[05:45] <jsgotangco> pc1, on planet? cool
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> time to play bzflag.. nn
[05:46] <concept10> SlicerDicer: the earth is blue, check google
[05:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I have my own logs
[05:46] <bob2> drapelyk: best to just ask your question
[05:46] <vbgunz> What happened? I just installed Nvidia drivers yesterday... It seemed to work after a system reboot
[05:46] <vbgunz> much better than when I first booted in
[05:46] <SlicerDicer> concept10: ahh depends on if you have colorblindness like I do :P
[05:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I'm sorry if you're unhappy with me, but not reporting it screws you, not me
[05:46] <drapelyk> bob2 rgr that... I'm trying to use the tunneling (port forwarding) features of OpenSSH and I don't know where to start
[05:46] <bob2> I have no affiliation with ubuntu
[05:46] <bob2> hurting it does not hurt me
[05:47] <ryan_> can anyone help me with mp4 support?
[05:47] <bob2> drapelyk: ssh -Llocalport:destinationaddress:destinationport user@remotemachine
[05:47] <vbgunz> bob2 don't freak, I like your insight
[05:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what the hell do  you have operator powers for then? shall I report that to ubuntu how you were treating people today so your stripped of operator powers?
[05:47] <miller> hi everybody
[05:47] <bob2> drapelyk: localport will need to be above 1024 unless you run it with sudo
[05:47] <pc3> have does really works
[05:47] <drapelyk> oh does that steadily work for an application?
[05:48] <miller> i try to listen mp3 in xmms but it doesnt work
[05:48] <drapelyk> *how
[05:48] <drapelyk> I'm trying to use IRC at school
[05:48] <vbgunz> Slicer Operator powers doesn't entitle bob2 to *need* to support anyone
[05:48] <concept10> SlicerDicer: whats your problem
[05:48] <pc3> in copying image in open office pls help me
[05:48] <drapelyk> 6667 is closed
[05:48] <ryan_> I know there are mp4 plugins, but I can't seem to install them in BMP or XMMS
[05:48] <pestilence> hal is going crazy on my machine.  what do i do?
[05:48] <pestilence> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2096
[05:48] <Madpilot> !tell miller about mp3
[05:48] <miller> i can only play ogg, what must i do to play mp3???
[05:48] <pestilence> !hal
[05:48] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed. KDE uses it for its media:/ kioslave
[05:49] <kailer> hey everyone
[05:49] <miller> madpilot thanks i go to se it
[05:49] <vbgunz> hello
[05:49] <xTina> drapelyk: it will work if you have a machine outside and if there's a way of getting tcp connections out on a port and you are able to run an ssh server on that same port on your outside machine.
[05:50] <SlicerDicer> concept10: vbgunz but it does not give him a right to be a asshole.... I showed him a link to prove that it was not my fault and what do I get a sarcastic remark back come on that aint cool at all you have to admit... actually direct to the point several people asked if he was always this hostile
[05:50] <kailer> anyone familar with kaffeine?
[05:50] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I never ever claimed it was your fault
[05:50] <bob2> and Im normally not drowning in silliness like this, no
[05:50] <Madpilot> kailer: nobody on #kubuntu again?
[05:50] <bob2> I should have left hours ago, but I have an odd desire to stoppeople doing silly things
[05:50] <kailer> yep
[05:51] <vbgunz> I don't remember him ever being hostile, bob2 has been a great help. I am sorry if you feel wronged but I can not take a side. I am unsure of what is happening. I guess calm down and try to rethink the whole situation?
[05:52] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I guess you are incapable of admiting you were hostile and rude I will leave it at that
[05:52] <jdermer> hey
[05:52] <jdermer> i got a question about the mac version of ubuntu
[05:52] <jdermer> i just bought an old imac g3 on ebay and i was wondering if ubuntu would work on iy
[05:52] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: if you were aware of the incredible amount of support that bob2 does, you would step down right now
[05:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I was rude, yes, and annoyed at you for being silly
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, like bob2 said... we are volunteers... period.
[05:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I never claimed your problem was your fault
[05:53] <SlicerDicer> Xenguy: I am not impressed
[05:53] <miller> madpilot i dont have gstreamer0.8-mad in synaptic :(
[05:53] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I've suggested a number of potential ways to fix it
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> people get irked at times... life goes on
[05:53] <jdermer> anyone?
[05:53] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: then be more tolerant - support can frustrate the best of people.  Trust me, bob2 is good people most of the time :-)
[05:53] <Madpilot> miller: you need to have the Universe repo enabled
[05:53] <bob2> SlicerDicer: filing a bug is about all that's left; you nor I know what the problem is, so at least reporting that it exists means someone who knows more might figure it out
[05:54] <Madpilot> !tell miller about repos
[05:54] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well that is what I am doing right now actually :)
[05:54] <bob2> SlicerDicer: good
[05:54] <bob2> I'm sorry you took this personally
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> bob2, true... which will help the whole effort and make Ubuntu better for all
[05:54] <bob2> yes
[05:54] <jdermer> ...
[05:55] <bob2> jdermer: yes, it will, as the website says
[05:55] <jdermer> where
[05:55] <bob2> and now that I'm going to be stripped of my op hat, I shall leave
[05:55] <bob2> good luck, all
[05:55] <jdermer> like is there sys requirements or the like
[05:55] <vbgunz> Slicer if you're more familiar with Windows, you should use it if you need some mission critical operations completed on a deadline. If you're new to Linux, take your time otherwising rushing into it might do more harm than good. Plus if you're new, you don't need to burn any potential bridges bro...
[05:55] <jdermer> im lovin ubuntu on my pc btw heh
[05:55] <silverton> How can I be positive that my nvidia video card drivers got installed correctly?
[05:55] <silverton> I see the nvidia splash screen when the X server starts
[05:56] <vbgunz> Yeah, Breezy is cool. I am enjoying it. It had my support for my PC than Hoary did...
[05:56] <ApesMa> Moving my wife from FC3 to Hoary Hedgehog, and having trouble importing Mozilla email into Thunderbird. Files go over into .mozilla-thunderbird, and thunderbird shows accounts, but won't show folders or messages. What am I overlooking?
[05:56] <miller> madpilot it's my first day using linux(ubuntu) thanks by the help man ;)
[05:56] <SlicerDicer> vbgunz: umm I am by no means new to linux :)
[05:56] <bob2> silverton: wiki.ubuntu.com/binaryDriverHowto
[05:56] <jdermer> bob2, where on the site does it talk about it
[05:56] <Madpilot> miller: no problem - good luck, and welcome to the Light Side... ;)
[05:56] <bob2> jdermer: in the ports section, presumably
[05:56] <vbgunz> Slicer, I am. I just thought I pass on some good advice ;)
[05:56] <miller> the real world ;)
[05:56] <bob2> I'm not really in a mood to trawl the website for you
[05:56] <Xenguy> Madpilot: no no, this is the *Dark* side :-] 
[05:57] <Madpilot> Xenguy: you haven't used Windows lately, have you? ;)
[05:57] <luckyaba> anyone know why a webcam would appear grey when viewing in gnome meeting
[05:57] <Xenguy> heh
[05:57] <ApesMa> Xenguy: don't get confused by the brown wallpaper. :)
[05:57] <silverton> bob2, that is the page I used, but tuxracer lags a bit, and I know it shouldn't
[05:57] <jdermer> bob2, which is where... lol
[05:57] <concept10> SlicerDicer: I don't know what was said but, you shouldnt get easily offended.  bob2 offers alot a help to many people everyday
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> ok I will pull it out for you guys what he said give me a few mins yeash
[05:58] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I have to go
[05:58] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: thank you for the help!!!!
[05:58] <concept10> SlicerDicer: not interested, just drop it!
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> well you guys are dragging it out
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> jesus
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> back down leave it be
[05:59] <SlicerDicer> I am trying to file a god damn bug report
[05:59] <Xenguy> Madpilot ApesMa I usually refer to *nix as the 'Dark Side' because of the idea of 'daemons', command-line 'invocations', and so on :-)
[06:00] <hooded> Hey guys
[06:00] <ApesMa> Xenguy: :)
[06:00] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: yep, better the bug report :-)
[06:00] <hooded> Can someone help me out i just have a small question
[06:00] <Madpilot> Xenguy: heh. "Linux: the Daemonic Operating System!" - that'll get some people excited...
[06:00] <silverton> hooded, just ask :P
[06:00] <Xenguy> Madpilot: hey, I *like* that
[06:00] <hooded> When i click mark for installation on synaptic Azureus
[06:01] <hooded> it says that it will remove mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[06:01] <hooded> and also will uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <silverton> hooded, weird, doesn't happen to me
[06:02] <tamarack> it's not a big problem if it un-installs ubuntu-desktop though
[06:02] <tamarack> it's just a dummy package
[06:02] <hooded> Yeah i cant get apt-get to work with bittorrent
[06:02] <tamarack> it won't actually do anything
[06:02] <hooded> i mean azureus
[06:02] <tamarack> the mozilla thing is strange though
[06:02] <hooded> It says use apt-get install -f
[06:02] <tamarack> I've never gotten then when installing azureus
[06:02] <tamarack> then=that
[06:03] <silverton> hooded, did you manually download the azureus package?
[06:03] <hooded> i understood
[06:03] <hooded> No.
[06:03] <Madpilot> hooded: checking Azureus for installation here doesn't cause any "<foo> will be deleted" messages - you using Hoary or Breezy?
[06:03] <silverton> or did you get it from a repository?
[06:03] <hooded> i did manually install java 1.5 update 4
[06:03] <tamarack> maybe you have the repositories setup incorrectly and it has the wrong dependencies?
[06:04] <hooded> first of all... i dont know what repositories are or dependencies
[06:04] <miller> madpilot i'm downloading universe repo thanks man :)
[06:04] <tamarack> ah
[06:04] <hooded> yeah sorry
[06:04] <tamarack> np
[06:04] <hooded> i should have read a lot more before coming here
[06:05] <tamarack> no worries
[06:05] <hooded> This is quite easy though, i mean i got Mplayer to work quite quickly
[06:05] <silverton> hooded, www.ubuntuguide.com/.org   I forget
[06:05] <silverton> helped me quite a bit
[06:05] <gigaclon> hooded, wiki.ubuntu.com too
[06:06] <gigaclon> !ubuntuguide
[06:06] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:06] <gigaclon> !faq
[06:06] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[06:06] <hooded> yeah silverton accually thats what i tried first
[06:06] <Octane> if im upgrading my hoary to breezy... what's the best way to do this? via init 1?
[06:06] <snowwoolf> bob2: I checked the forums, and it sounds like there are a lot of issues with software RAIDs.  I'm trying out using LVM to combine two RAID 0s.
[06:07] <Madpilot> miller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- central point for (most) of the Howtos for Ubuntu
[06:07] <cafuego> Octane: Why would you do that? Why not just dist-upgrade and then reboot when the new kernel is installed?
[06:07] <Octane> cafuego: from what ive heard you shouldnt dist-upgrade from within an init 6 when doing a giagantic upgrade
[06:08] <miller> madpilot thanks a millino man ;)
[06:09] <cafuego> Octane: You were told wrong. Also, Ubuntu doesn't run in ruvlevel 6, but in 2. 6 is 'reboot'
[06:09] <hooded> could i just use dpkg -i to install azureus?
[06:09] <Octane> cafuego: sorry i dont know my run levels
[06:09] <cafuego> Octane: just dist-upgrade. At worst you'll need to logout and back in.
[06:09] <Octane> cafuego: so i can just dist-upgrade from a regular ole Konsole (even though its upgrading over 600 packages) and then reboot
[06:09] <nickv111> I believe 5 is what ubuntu runs in
[06:10] <cafuego> No, 2.
[06:10] <nickv111> Oh
[06:10] <nickv111> I'm a little rusty on my runlevels as well
[06:10] <juhno> hi
[06:10] <nickv111> All I know really is that 6 == reboot, 0 == shutdown, and S == Single user
[06:10] <alexandros> I am having siund issues
[06:11] <cafuego> Octane: Yep. Well, you reboot IF there is a new kernel. I'm not sure it would pull in 2.6.12 byd efault.
[06:11] <cafuego> Octane: if it does _not_ install a new kernel, just logout from X, then login again.
[06:11] <Octane> cafuego: great thanks
[06:11] <Octane> i want the new kernel anyway sinc ei think itll make my wireless card work :)
[06:11] <alexandros> can someone help me? mp3 can be heard but divx and flash based games can't be heard
[06:11] <cafuego> nickv111: grep default /etc/inittab
[06:12] <nickv111> cafuego: Meh. Too lazy and no need
[06:12] <pc1> hi
[06:12] <silverton> :O  Updating to Breezy is a 1131 package process >.<
[06:12] <cafuego> True, you have an all-knowing cafuego at your disposal ;-)
[06:12] <nickv111> Of course
[06:12] <nickv111> cafuego is a walking man page, like everyone else on IRC
[06:12] <pc1> can someone here know how to install the windows based yahoo messenger?
[06:12] <silverton> cafuego is always
[06:13] <nickv111> Time for bed
[06:13] <nickv111> G'night
[06:13] <Octane> nickv111: lol i know!
[06:13] <silverton> er, wtf?
[06:13] <silverton> s/always/awesome
[06:13] <Burgundavia> pc1, gaim (which is installed by defualt) can communicate with yahoo
[06:14] <Xenguy> pc1: wrong channel for that question; you will be /ignored by most people very soon I expect if you continue <shrug>
[06:14] <qmanman> anyone know of a BT client for linux other than azureus ?
[06:14] <Octane> qmanman: KTorrent
[06:14] <qmanman> Qt based?
[06:14] <Octane> yes
[06:14] <pc1> but it has no pre installed chat rooms like the yahoo window based, thts why i must use yahoo for the customers . cos im using Ubuntu
[06:14] <Octane> you want command line?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !bittorrent
[06:14] <ubotu> hmm... bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:14] <hooded> bittornado
[06:14] <pc1> Im using Ubuntu
[06:14] <pc1> thts why i asked here
[06:14] <qmanman> Octane: command line would be cool
 bittornado
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> There is a Linux version of the Yahoo Chat program
[06:15] <pc1> but the linux version has no pre installed chat rooms
[06:15] <Xenguy> pc1: using Ubuntu is one thing; asking how to install Windows software is another, yes?
[06:15] <pc1> and this Ubuntu has wine
[06:15] <Xenguy> pc1: try /join #winehq
[06:15] <pc1> so i like to use wine to install Yahoo M
[06:15] <pc1> ok ok
[06:15] <pc1> il try
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> pc1,  actually I think it uses a slightly different interface. it can get to the chat rooms
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> You will not be able to use wine and Yahoo messenger I think.
[06:16] <miller> madpilot i'm listening mp3 right now i will go to install video codecs thanks for all man :)
[06:17] <pc1> why dr willis?
[06:17] <hooded> whats this mean, the following packages have unmet dependencies
[06:17] <[Chameleon] > hooded: means you need to install the stuff listed there first.
[06:18] <[Chameleon] > hooded: before what you're trying to install will work.
[06:18] <hooded> right it says i dont have java installed
[06:18] <Stik> Means yer in package manager hell
[06:18] <hooded> and its saying i dont
[06:18] <Xenguy> !java
[06:18] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:18] <[Chameleon] > Xenguy: gracias
[06:18] <Xenguy> [Chameleon] : yw
[06:19] <hooded> thanks.
[06:21] <hooded> so if i have already installed java 1.5 will i have to uninstall it?
[06:21] <_smd_> if you installed it..you obviously did not install it properly...
[06:22] <_smd_> And, I suppose java in a terminal does nothing?
[06:22] <_smd_> do java -version
[06:22] <chizang> if i want to go from hoary to breezy, is it as simple as s/hoary/breezy/g in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:22] <hooded> okay hold on
[06:22] <chizang> and then doing an apt-get update/dist-upgrade?
[06:22] <hooded> 1.5.0.04
[06:22] <_smd_> chizang: yes. If you cant wait...
[06:22] <chizang> (with the caveat that breezy is in preview only, of course)
[06:22] <hooded> haha i rock i did install it
[06:22] <_smd_> hooded: well, what then, tho?
[06:22] <_smd_> hooded: ya, good work...
[06:23] <hooded> im screwed?
[06:23] <_smd_> nono, whats not working?
[06:23] <chizang> _smd_, yeah, i'm running ubuntu on an asus pundit-r and breezy has an updated video driver that will enable the tv out
[06:23] <hooded> i dont understand why azureus wont apt-get
[06:23] <_smd_> hooded: neither do I...whats the error?
[06:23] <meng> is there a wiki for x problems after upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[06:24] <hooded> wrong dependencies
[06:25] <_smd_> hooded: please psate the whole error to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:25] <hooded>  azureus: Depends: libcommons-cli-java but it is not going to be installed           Depends: liblog4j1.2-java but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded>            Depends: libseda-java but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded>            Depends: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but it is not going to be installed  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded> Sorry for flooding
[06:25] <alexandros> have anyone had the problem of their sound not being consistant?
[06:25] <_smd_> hooded: did I say here?
[06:25] <meng> i am having issues with x and HID devices control after upgrading to breezy
[06:26] <hooded> what smd?
[06:26] <hooded> did i say here what?
[06:26] <_smd_> did I say paste here? dont paste here. just annoying for other conversations...
[06:26] <hooded> oh im sorry
[06:27] <Madpilot> !paste
[06:27] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:27] <_smd_> hooded: how did you install java?
[06:27] <hooded> dpkg -i
[06:28] <_smd_> hooded: and where did you get the .deb?
[06:28] <whyameye> I'm trying to recall alternative Windowing environments to Gnome and KDE which take up less resources for older machines...
[06:28] <hooded> umm hold on
[06:28] <meng> xfce
[06:29] <meng> fluxbox
[06:29] <meng> no desktop?
[06:29] <Madpilot> !tell hooded about java
[06:29] <whyameye> meng, thanks. Those were the two names I was trying to remember...
[06:29] <Madpilot> hooded: see that page, it's got the easiest Java-install method...
[06:29] <hooded> yeah but i already installed it
[06:29] <hooded> ...
[06:29] <_smd_> hooded: while you are at it...also paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the paste.ubuntulinux.nl site.
[06:30] <Madpilot> hooded: except it's not working? what happens when you type "man java" at a prompt?
[06:30] <hooded> hold on mad
[06:30] <_smd_> Madpilot: it works when he java -version/..
[06:30] <miller> madpilot i can play mp3 and videos now thanks man :)
[06:30] <_smd_> that is the list of repositories your apt-get knows about. also, are you now again installing with dpkg -i, hooded?
[06:31] <Madpilot> _smd_: OK - I must have missed that further up - sorry
[06:31] <Madpilot> miller: you're welcome
[06:31] <drapelyk> can anyone help me with a portforwarding session using SSH?
[06:31] <_smd_> Madpilot: thats cool...its me dabaR at a friend's place...
[06:31] <winner> what happened to naim? it doesn't work anymore?
[06:31] <hooded> smd i got my repositories from, the unoffical ubuntuguide
[06:31] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[06:31] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:31] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:31] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:31] <hooded> and im trying to use apt-get to download azureus
[06:32] <_smd_> hooded: there is a official ubuntuguide?;)
[06:32] <winner> naim doesn't connect anymore
[06:32] <winner> for some reason
[06:32] <meng> is there a guide to upgrading issues in breezy
[06:32] <drapelyk> Anyone: why when using port forwarding do I get my SSH version number and OS info when trying to use a browser??
[06:33] <_smd_> hooded: ok, here is what you will do...
[06:33] <meng>  meng: i am siding the unofficial guide, the fella is my fellow countrymen
[06:33] <drapelyk> anyone have a solution?
[06:33] <hooded> what?
[06:33] <_smd_> sudo dpkg -P javapackagenameyouinstalled.
[06:33] <hooded> okay
[06:33] <_smd_> no . also, then you will post your sources.list as I said, so I can tell you what to comment out.
[06:33] <_smd_> THen I will tell you further.
[06:34] <qmanman> wow whoever mentioned bittornado a bit ago: thanks!
[06:34] <drapelyk> can someone help me with an SSH tunnel?
[06:34] <hooded> me... thanks
[06:34] <ksmurf> if I do a fresh install of hoary then change my repos to breezy and smartupgade through synaptic do u thing the update will work?
[06:34] <hooded> i cant get azureus to work but... yeah im gald yours is
[06:34] <_smd_> hooded: go with what I told you, it will work in a few minutes...
[06:35] <ksmurf> hooded it has something to do with the open java sources
[06:35] <drapelyk> Anyone: why when using port forwarding do I get my SSH version number and OS info when trying to use a browser??
[06:35] <qmanman> hooded: yeah azurues worked good for me, great app, but too much memory use
[06:35] <meng> ksmurf: my whole x is screwed up after dist-upgrade
[06:35] <hooded> hey smd
[06:35] <qmanman> meng: dist-upgrade from hoary?
[06:35] <_smd_> hooded: ya, gona do that?
[06:35] <hooded> what if i dont remembe what the package name was?
[06:36] <meng> qmanman: yup
[06:36] <_smd_> then... aptitude search sun
[06:36] <qmanman> meng: same here, had to fresh install with the preview disk
[06:36] <hooded> okay i download it into my home folder
[06:36] <_smd_> post that and your sources.list to the pastebin page.
[06:36] <qmanman> meng: totally borked on me last night
[06:36] <FhaeTon> Hello
[06:36] <Madpilot> hooded: tab completion is your friend - type the first part of your title, then hit TAB and see
[06:36] <ksmurf> meng I am doing the update throught synaptic ...... I'm doing it because my wireless and video died in breezy but work in hoary
[06:36] <FhaeTon> I'm new to Linux
[06:36] <FhaeTon> don't know anything
[06:36] <pc1> does wine in this Hedgehug Ubuntu the wine in WIneHQ?
[06:37] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: congrats - a good place to start :-)
[06:37] <hooded> _smd_ i downloaded it into my homefolder for it to dpkg
[06:37] <nalioth> ksmurf: your system will return
[06:37] <_smd_> drapelyk: read ubotu's ask factoid.
[06:37] <drapelyk> where?
[06:37] <Xenguy> pc1: same software, yes
[06:37] <FhaeTon> thats why I'm here
[06:37] <ksmurf> nalioth return?
[06:37] <pc1> i see.nice
[06:37] <_smd_> hooded: please follow instructions. open a terminal, aptitude search sun
[06:37] <FhaeTon> UI've never used a pc before
[06:37] <nalioth> ksmurf: breezy is in heavy update mode, what's broken today, will be fixed soon
[06:37] <_smd_> FhaeTon: stop the intro, and ask.
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm buildong my first Pc
[06:38] <FhaeTon> http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/The_FhaeTon_Project/PhotoAlbum31.html
[06:38] <hooded> how do i do, aptitude search sun
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm typo prone
[06:38] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: riiiiighhhht
[06:38] <drapelyk> Why am I getting my SSH version and os version when using an SSH tunnel and browser?
[06:38] <FhaeTon> what
[06:38] <ksmurf> k nanolith ... my breezy seems rock stable. my wife is the one that is screwed
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm serious
[06:39] <ksmurf> her system that is
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I'm here to lok for help
[06:39] <bruno> i m going as weel
[06:39] <bruno> bye
[06:39] <hooded> _smd_ got it
[06:39] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: OK, ask
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I and make friends
[06:39] <bruno> night
[06:39] <_smd_> drapelyk: more info, please...tell us the browser, exact procedure and stuff if you want help.
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I haven't built it yet
[06:39] <FhaeTon> waiting for a few more parts
[06:39] <meng> but in the mean time, should i just nuke ubuntu off or there's a way to fix it
[06:39] <_smd_> hooded: now, sudo dpkg -P packageName
[06:39] <hooded> okay
[06:39] <hooded> which one
[06:39] <_smd_> hooded: does it have an i on the left beside the package?
[06:40] <FhaeTon> some gaming freinds helped me pick the parts
[06:40] <FhaeTon> Xenguy
[06:40] <_smd_> FhaeTon: please keep your posts to questions about what to do.
[06:40] <hooded> _smd_ an "i"
[06:40] <FhaeTon> will I hear good things about linux
[06:40] <FhaeTon> oh
[06:41] <hooded> i dont see one sorry... i do see some different jave packages though
[06:41] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: do you have a question though?
[06:41] <FhaeTon> question#1
[06:41] <hooded> 1.5debian
[06:41] <_smd_> hooded: ok, now, let us do the pastebin thing, k?
[06:41] <FhaeTon>  whats the best distro for SLI support
[06:41] <FhaeTon> game support
[06:42] <_smd_> hooded: click: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:42] <ksmurf> phaeTon XP... the security suck though
[06:42] <FhaeTon> I don't want xp
[06:42] <_smd_> hooded: paste the output of that aptitude search there.
[06:42] <FhaeTon> no alternatioves
[06:42] <drapelyk> k, I am using firefox with proxy localhost:1234, with a putty PF "ssh -L1234:192.168.0.80:22 drapleyk@ubuntuserv
[06:42] <_smd_> FhaeTon: dont ask about what distro is best in #ubuntu...
[06:42] <hooded> okay
[06:42] <FhaeTon> ok
[06:42] <_smd_> FhaeTon: what do you think people will say? gentoo?
[06:42] <FhaeTon> so does unbuntu have sli support
[06:43] <FhaeTon> I'm learning man take it easy
[06:43] <ksmurf> phaeTon XP... If you want a gaming system the playstation or Xbox will do.  If you want a system that you can do somthing with then your at the right spot
[06:43] <hooded> _smd_
[06:43] <FhaeTon> I told you I don't know what im doing
[06:43] <hooded> i got it
[06:43] <snausages> hm, I get no sound with Music Player but xmms plays my oggs fine
[06:43] <snausages> what's the deal
[06:43] <FhaeTon> ok
[06:43] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2097
[06:44] <ksmurf> snagusages... have you installed the codecs?
[06:44] <FhaeTon> I want to learn what it takes to install
[06:44] <andyfg> hey people... i need a little bit of help.. im a little new to linux and all, but I just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to get my ALPS touchpad driver to function correctly. in the installation documentation it says i have to use the "make" command. But the problem is... the terminal does not recognize this command
[06:44] <FhaeTon> what do I have to learn first
[06:44] <_smd_> thanks. now, cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and paste that there too. also, sudo aptitude install azureus, and paste that as well.
[06:44] <andyfg> does anybody know why? or can anyboyd help me out?
[06:44] <Xenguy> ksmurf: gaming *is* possible on linux you know ;-)
[06:44] <nalioth> !tell FhaeTon about cli
[06:44] <snausages> ksmurf, i believe i have. i ran one of the automatic scripts suggeste din the forum
[06:44] <_smd_> FhaeTon: no taking it easy:)
[06:44] <ksmurf> Xenguy ... do tell
[06:45] <_smd_> gotta tell you the fact, and dont have the time to sugar coat.
[06:45] <andyfg> any ideas plzzz
[06:45] <andyfg> im really stuck
[06:45] <whyameye> andyfg, I find it hard to believe you don't have 'make.' Type 'which make' in the terminal and tell us what you get...
[06:45] <andyfg> because without this command I can't connect to the internet or use my mouse properly
[06:46] <andyfg> okay just give me a sec i have to restart
[06:46] <Xenguy> ksmurf: I'm not a big gamer at all, but even I have see evidence like this -> http://frankscorner.org/  ...
[06:46] <FhaeTon> Ok do I study that and come back?
[06:46] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2098
[06:46] <Xenguy> not to mention games that actually run natively on linux, and not to mention 'cedega' either, so please... "XP" ???
[06:46] <FhaeTon> I hate the word
[06:46] <FhaeTon> Xp
[06:47] <FhaeTon> don't say that
[06:47] <_smd_> hooded: thanks, and the other one? the sudo aptitude install azureus?
[06:47] <shik45> VMWARE
[06:47] <hooded> its doing it right now _smd_
[06:47] <miller> people i have a partion (ntfs) mounted (hda5)
[06:47] <FhaeTon> hey does CLi = shell
[06:47] <lakcaj> Instead of MS Longhorn, I though maybe MS Stillborn.  Feel free to use that one ;)
[06:48] <miller> and i can see files butd don't open
[06:48] <hooded> _smd_ building package list?
[06:48] <meng> lakcaj: it's Vista now
[06:48] <miller> how can i open int
[06:48] <nalioth> FhaeTon: yes, cli = shell input
[06:48] <FhaeTon> yeah
[06:48] <lakcaj> Yeah I know, but that doesn't work with my stillborn play on words ;)
[06:48] <FhaeTon> ok whats next
[06:48] <Andyfg> ok im back
[06:48] <Andyfg> ill try it out right now
[06:49] <ksmurf> phaeTon  I was just saying for purly gaming linux is not the alternitive YET>>>>  It will come
[06:49] <FhaeTon> cd is home
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: that is not an answerable question.
[06:49] <_smd_> At least I dont have an answer.
[06:49] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2099
[06:49] <FhaeTon> I just wanna learn and this one seems nice
[06:49] <miller> how can i open files from a ntfs partition?
[06:49] <hooded> sorry _smd_ slow computer
[06:49] <Gin> hnn
[06:49] <Andyfg> ok
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell miller about ntfs
[06:49] <Gin> forget what nick i regged on this server..
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: thats fine, dont worry, Im just biitchy:)
[06:49] <Andyfg> when i type "which make" in the root terminal it does absolutely nothing
[06:49] <FhaeTon> cd = home?
[06:49] <ksmurf> It is.  The installer holds your hand and it has good hardware support
[06:49] <Andyfg> it just goes back to the prompt
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: you are set:P
[06:50] <hooded> okay.
[06:50] <Andyfg> and if i type "make"
[06:50] <Andyfg> i get
[06:50] <hooded> what do i do?
[06:50] <Andyfg> "bash: make: command not found"
[06:50] <ksmurf> but it's powerful enough for 99%
[06:50] <FhaeTon> oh i c
[06:50] <ksmurf> of users
[06:50] <FhaeTon> thats cool
[06:50] <_smd_> Andyfg: please post one message, if you have to, make it longer. this is just scrolling off the screen...
[06:50] <_smd_> Andyfg: Also. sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:50] <Andyfg> sorry
[06:50] <FhaeTon> mkdir + make directory
[06:51] <miller> nalioth i mounted it and i see all files but i can't open it
[06:51] <hooded> _smd_ do i just press yes and have it remove the ubuntu-desktop?>
[06:51] <Madpilot> Andyfg: what happens if you type "man make"?
[06:51] <nalioth> miller: you'll have to copy the file to your linux partition
[06:51] <Andyfg> just did the sudo aptitude that went well :)
[06:51] <_smd_> hooded: yes, that is just a list of packages, common to the ubuntu-desktop.
[06:51] <FhaeTon> hey what is var?
[06:51] <Andyfg> umm let me try madpilot
[06:51] <hooded> okay sweet
[06:51] <Andyfg> "No manual entry for make"
[06:52] <_smd_> Andyfg: wait for that thing to install, the build-essential. that is the package required for make.
[06:52] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: it stores 'VARiable' files, as in files that come and go, and grow in size
[06:52] <hooded> Oh wow... it worked, _smd_ you are a badass
[06:52] <_smd_> I did nothing.
[06:52] <Andyfg> _smd_ it finished.. it said done to everything and then took me back to the prompt
[06:52] <_smd_> Andyfg: make.
[06:52] <FhaeTon> hmm is there documentation that will tell me how it does that?
[06:52] <Andyfg> "bash: make: command not found"
[06:52] <miller> i want use files from the ntfs partition because they are movies and are so heavys
[06:52] <Madpilot> _smd_: I don't have build-essential installed, but "man make" brings up the make man-file for me...
[06:53] <FhaeTon> is there a definiton list of this styuff
[06:53] <ksmurf> FhaeTon http://www.linuxquestions.org/   Check it out
[06:53] <Madpilot> !tell miller about ntfs
[06:53] <hooded> holy crapy _smd_ it update my mozilla firefox to 1.0.6
[06:53] <nfinitep1astik> can someone please direct me to what exactly my samba conf should say so i can share to my xp machine?
[06:53] <FhaeTon> oh thank
[06:53] <hooded> sweetness
[06:53] <FhaeTon> what should I GO TO FIRST
[06:53] <_smd_> hooded: now, the final and most important step. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list . then, comment out the last two repositories. put a # in front of the last two lines.
[06:54] <miller> madpilot i mounted the partition and i see it and all files but i can read any files
[06:54] <Andyfg> ok so the packages finished (the aptitude thing).. but when i type "make" i still get "command not found" and when i type man make i get "no manual entroy for make"
[06:54] <hooded> okay hold on i will
[06:54] <_smd_> hooded: that will ensure that you will not upgrade all the available packages to the backports versions that are not very staBLE.
[06:54] <miller> :S
[06:54] <ksmurf> FhaeTon Google..... Linux newbie
[06:54] <whyameye> Andyfg, have you tried downloading and installing the package called Make from Synaptic?
[06:54] <FhaeTon> one sec
[06:54] <_smd_> hooded: I wont hold on...then once you are done...save, close, and sudo aptitude update.
[06:54] <pinoyko> site for ubuntu free 3d games
[06:55] <_smd_> later
[06:55] <Andyfg> whyameye no i havent
[06:55] <FhaeTon> wow
[06:55] <Andyfg> but my touchpad is ALPS
[06:55] <Andyfg> not synaptic
[06:55] <FhaeTon> omg
[06:55] <pinoyko> site for ubuntu free 3d games
[06:55] <wazary> hey peeps
[06:55] <FhaeTon> lots of help things for newbies came up
[06:55] <hooded> okay _smd_
[06:55] <whyameye> Andyfg, give it a shot. The GNU make utility is available as a package on Synaptic. I thought it would come preinstalled but perhaps it isn't installed yet on your OS.
[06:55] <pinoyko> help
[06:56] <Andyfg> in the synaptics-0.14.3.tar package
[06:56] <Andyfg> tehre is a file called "makefile", if i try to run this in the terminal nothing happens i get command not found
[06:56] <pinoyko> site for linux 3d games ubuntu compatible
[06:56] <FhaeTon> I'm on Mac Tiger right now r u guys on linux
[06:56] <pinoyko> please give any site
[06:56] <whyameye> Andyfg, yes the makefile is read by the make utility, which you don't appear to have....
[06:56] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[06:56] <hooded> _smd_ like this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2100
[06:57] <Andyfg> ahh okay so where can i get the make utility? could u send ma url?
[06:57] <Andyfg> *me
[06:57] <FhaeTon> ok Ill read and come back
[06:57] <oohweeee> ubuntu linux rawks!
[06:57] <whyameye> Andyfg, just run Synaptic Package Manager and do a search for Make.
[06:57] <miller> madpilot i see the ntfs partition but can't open any files
[06:57] <hooded> wait _smd_ what are the last two repositories?
[06:57] <miller> i hace read permission but not write permission
[06:57] <Andyfg> ok i have no idea what you just said... im really sorry but Im really new to linux
[06:58] <Andyfg> im a windows user :$
[06:58] <Madpilot> miller: there is no NTFS writing, sorry.
[06:58] <nfinitep1astik> can someone please direct me to what exactly my samba conf should say so i can share to my xp machine?
[06:58] <whyameye> Andyfg, in the system menu, under administation, look for Synaptic Package Menu.
[06:58] <whyameye> Andyfg, Menu == Manager
[06:58] <Andyfg> whoa
[06:59] <whyameye> Andyfg, are you running Gnome?
[06:59] <FhaeTon> Xenguy your not going anywhere are you its a lot to read?
[06:59] <Andyfg> i just got a msg saying "the following problems were found on your system:" n there's a whole list of them
[06:59] <whyameye> Andyfg, I get that too...:-)
[06:59] <miller> madpilot i just want to watch my movies from the ntfs partition how can i do it
[06:59] <Andyfg> ok cool
[06:59] <Andyfg> i am running nome
[06:59] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: I'm not sure what you mean; do you want to learn or not?
[06:59] <Madpilot> miller: you should be able to read files fine, but there is no writing ability
[06:59] <Andyfg> okay now what am i looking for?
[06:59] <whyameye> Okay, so in the package manager, you see the <search> icon?
[06:59] <FhaeTon> your gonna help me learn right?
[07:00] <oohweeee> has anyone had trouble getting totem running using xine?
[07:00] <miller> ok madpilot i don't know why i can't see the movies :S thanks any way
[07:00] <Andyfg> ?
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, do you see the search icon in Synaptic?
[07:01] <Andyfg> yup
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, if you want, just type sudo apt-get install make
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, that would be in the terminal window, BTW...
[07:01] <Madpilot> miller: copying stuff out of your NTFS drive onto your /home partition of Ubuntu should work...
[07:01] <Andyfg> but i dont have any internet connection
[07:02] <Andyfg> :( because i need to compile the ISP
[07:02] <Andyfg> 's program
[07:02] <whyameye> Andyfg, so you are using IRC on a Windows machine then?
[07:02] <Andyfg> yeah i am
[07:02] <Andyfg> i can access my network
[07:02] <Andyfg> but thats it
[07:02] <miller> madpilot i try copying files to linux partition but i can't do it
[07:03] <miller> i'm logging as root but i can't anyway
[07:04] <Andyfg> whyameye... any ideas?
[07:04] <Madpilot> miller: you shouldn't have to log in as root just to copy stuff from an NTFS drive. I'm not sure what's going on, but I really don't know NTFS at all...
[07:04] <hooded> _smd_ nevermind , thankyou for the help
[07:04] <hooded> im out
[07:04] <whyameye> Andyfg, gimme a minute. I'm looking for you...
[07:04] <Andyfg> thanks :)
[07:05] <miller> it doesn't work :S
[07:08] <alexandros> can someone help me with my sound?
[07:08] <pc4> how to add printer in ubuntu pls help
[07:09] <bimberi> pc4: System -> Administration -> Printing
[07:09] <alexandros> at the menu goto System> Administration>Printing
[07:09] <luckyaba> how do i apt-get install v4l with DGA support
[07:09] <Andyfg> any luck whyameye?
[07:12] <oohweeee> Can i use synaptic Package Manager to install Totem with xine instead of gstreamer?
[07:12] <drapelyk> can someone walk me through setting up an SSH tunnel?
[07:12] <Madpilot> oohweeee: yes
[07:12] <Burgundavia> oohweeee, yes, add universe and search for totem-xine
[07:12] <MrBear> how do I delete folders I dont have permission to
[07:12] <oohweeee> Burgundavia, do i have to be connected to the internet to do that?
[07:12] <Madpilot> MrBear: with sudo, usually
[07:12] <bushk> i got a quick q:  what is network device sit0?
[07:12] <bushk> can anybody help me with that q?
[07:12] <snausages> how do i install sound juicer 2.12 from a tarball? (i have 2.10 installed right now)
[07:13] <MrBear> dont know how
[07:13] <ashtong> bluetooth?
[07:13] <Burgundavia> oohweeee, yes
[07:13] <bushk> i got a quick q:  what is network device sit0?
[07:13] <ashtong> bushk: I think it's bluetooth
[07:13] <oohweeee> thank you Burgundavia :)
[07:13] <drapelyk> how do I set up an SSH tunnel?
[07:13] <ashtong> man ssh would be a good start
[07:13] <drapelyk> ashtong: are you talking to me?\
[07:13] <Burgundavia> oohweeee, np
[07:13] <bushk> ashtong, hrm, i definately dont have any bluetooth equipment installed.  infact i think this hardcare was built b4 bluetooth existed.
[07:13] <cafuego> snausages: modify the 2.10 source deb to contain the 2.12 source.
[07:13] <bushk> ashtong, is it possible it's something else?
[07:13] <ashtong> drapelyk: er, yeah
[07:14] <ashtong> bushk: yes, I'm going from memory
[07:14] <Madpilot> MrBear: "man sudo" at a command prompt, or wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:14] <drapelyk> ashtong: I've got everything installed I'm just not doing something right
[07:14] <snausages> cafuego, how do i go about doing that
[07:14] <ashtong> drapelyk: http://pigtail.net/LRP/vnc/
[07:14] <snausages> cafuego, i'm just upgrading.
[07:14] <cafuego> snausages: Fetch the source deb, unpack it, repalce source, update debian/changelog file, build.
[07:14] <sells> tritium: hey Mike,what is up
[07:14] <snausages> heh
[07:14] <ashtong> bushk: did you google?
[07:14] <snausages> mmhmmm
[07:15] <cafuego> if that;'s too hard, just stick wuth 2.10.
[07:15] <snausages> thanks for your help cafuego
[07:15] <holycow> haha
[07:15] <holycow> slune is kinda fun game
[07:15] <holycow> i like that :)
[07:16] <ashtong> bushk: read this http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/02/msg02537.html
[07:16] <bushk> ashtong, ooo, thanks for the pointer.
[07:16] <ashtong> k
[07:17] <drapelyk> ashtong, how would I use a browser through an SSH tunnel?
[07:17] <ashtong> set a route to the host you want to get to so traffice goes through the tunnel
[07:17] <ashtong> you probably want a default route
[07:17] <ashtong> what's the IP of the remove end of your tunnel?
[07:17] <ashtong> type "sudo route add default gw <ip-goes-here>"
[07:18] <ashtong> s/remove/remote/
[07:18] <drapelyk> I don't understand
[07:18] <nerdy2> drapelyk, which side is the browser on?
[07:18] <ashtong> I've never done an ssh tunnel, but you should have setup a new IP on your local computer.
[07:18] <ashtong> correct?
[07:19] <drapelyk> my laptop is running putty and i'm trying to forward browser requests through it to another computer on my lan which is running OpenSSH
[07:19] <ashtong> smeg
[07:19] <ashtong> I've never used putty either
[07:19] <ashtong> my knowledge of windows route command isn't too hot either
[07:19] <nerdy2> drapelyk, if the browser is local, and you want to access remote_website (port 80) from it,  set up the tunnel as  ssh -L 6400:remote_website:80 remote_ssh_end
[07:19] <nerdy2> drapelyk, and then set your browser to localhost:6400
[07:20] <nerdy2> and you'll be able to browse remote_website (although links won't work so well)
[07:20] <ashtong> nerdy2: won't he need a proxy running on the openbsd box to be able to do anything useful?
[07:20] <ashtong> that'd be quite cool if it worked
[07:20] <ashtong> you'd need to forward connections to the proxy and then configure the proxy to be localhost/6400
[07:20] <pc4> how to do a network
[07:21] <nerdy2> ashtong, he could get a minimal setup without a proxy, but for full access he would need a proxy
[07:21] <pc4> pls help
[07:21] <drapelyk> ok, so I want a proxy...
[07:21] <drapelyk> lol
[07:21] <ashtong> squid is a good start
[07:21] <drapelyk> k
[07:21] <ashtong> on the OpenBSD box
[07:21] <drapelyk> so I would still be forwarding through ssh to access the proxy though right?
[07:21] <ashtong> yeah
[07:21] <pc4> how to do network sharing in ubuntu
[07:21] <pc4> pls help
[07:21] <ashtong> the ssh command would allow the browser to talk to the proxy via the ssh tunnel
[07:22] <drapelyk> anyone care to help me set up squid?
[07:22] <pc4> help  me
[07:22] <drapelyk> how long does it take?
[07:22] <pc4> pls
[07:22] <[Chameleon] > pc4: what are you trying to share with?
[07:22] <ashtong> drapelyk: long time since I've done it
[07:22] <ashtong> probably not long if you install a package/port though
[07:22] <ashtong> OpenBSD does less out of the box though
[07:22] <pc4> i have ubuntu pieces here
[07:22] <ashtong> how come you're asking in #ubuntu and not #openbsd?
[07:22] <pc4> pls help
[07:22] <ashtong> pc4: which way do you want to go?
[07:23] <drapelyk> ashtong me?
[07:23] <ashtong> drapelyk: yese
[07:23] <ashtong> pc4: to browse a windows box, or to browse ubuntu from windows?
[07:23] <drapelyk> I don't know, I thought OpenBSD was an OS
[07:23] <drapelyk> I'm running an Ubuntu server
[07:23] <pc4> i have ubuntu 10pcs here
[07:23] <ashtong> drapelyk: ah, I thought you were running OpenBSD
[07:23] <ashtong> did you say OpenSSH earlier?
[07:23] <drapelyk> nope
[07:23] <pc4> i cant see network pcs
[07:23] <ashtong> I need to go to bead
[07:23] <drapelyk> yup
[07:23] <ashtong> bed
[07:24] <ashtong> okay, in that case install the squid package
[07:24] <drapelyk> k
[07:24] <[Chameleon] > pc4: you are trying to share files on all PCs or use one box as a file server?
[07:24] <drapelyk> just a sec
[07:24] <setite> pc8
[07:24] <ashtong> [Chameleon] : I think he's trying to browse a local lan from ubunttu
[07:24] <[Chameleon] > ashtong: yeah, but it seems to be all Ubuntu; 10 boxes
[07:25] <pc4> yes, share all files to all my pcs
[07:25] <pc4> how can i see them
[07:25] <setite> any good native games... free perhaps?
[07:25] <[Chameleon] > pc4: share all files on one PC to all others or share files on each PC to all others?
[07:26] <pc4> vice versa
[07:26] <[Chameleon] > #1 or #2 pls
[07:27] <drapelyk> I have forgotten how to use the apt-get search feature what is the command?
[07:27] <[Chameleon] > pc4: server -> clients or peer-to-peer sharing?
[07:27] <pprince_> apt-cache search.
[07:27] <pprince_> I like synaptic better.
[07:27] <drapelyk> ah ha
[07:27] <nevyn> hrm trying to get a radeon X850 going on hoary.. is this a lost cause?
[07:27] <drapelyk> i'm going through SSH
[07:27] <setite> pprince_, than what
[07:28] <pc4> peer to peer sharing
[07:28] <pprince_> setite: apt-* and aptitude.
[07:28] <r0d> whats a tool I can use to resize partitions and merge as well? trying to get off of partition magic..
[07:28] <pprince_> r0d: afaik, partition magic is the best thing going.
[07:29] <dabaRCo>  hi
[07:29] <r0d> but im on linux pprince_
[07:29] <Xenguy> r0d: there's the 'parted' family of tools (but I've never played with them, only heard about them)
[07:29] <mjr> r0d, (g)parted is pretty much what's out there
[07:29] <r0d> i dont want to dual boot just for that feature
[07:29] <jack> i changed the /etc/inputrc, now i cant input the char "s",  so i cant use sudo to undo the change. Help!
[07:29] <drapelyk> should I get squid or squid-common?
[07:29] <pprince_> If you're using LVM, it's easier.
[07:29] <dabaRCo> damn, that ubuntu below zero conference is in montreal, taht is soo close to where I am...and I wont go for sure cause of school...they should have made it during some break...
[07:30] <bimberi> drapelyk: squid (squid-common is one of its dependencies)
[07:30] <r0d> mjr,  (g)parted?  is gparted an alias to same?
[07:30] <drapelyk> so get squid correct?
[07:30] <bimberi> drapelyk: yes
[07:30] <drapelyk> k
[07:31] <drapelyk> ok squid is installed
[07:31] <drapelyk> now... how do I use it, lol
[07:31] <holycow> wtf?
[07:31] <holycow> slune is coded in python?
[07:31] <holycow> whoa
[07:32] <holycow> dabaRCo, its actually playable!
[07:32] <dabaRCo> what is it?
[07:32] <bimberi> :)
[07:32] <holycow> slune
[07:32] <holycow> its  a 3d game
[07:32] <bimberi> 3D car racing games
[07:32] <bimberi> s/s//
[07:32] <holycow> needs some tweaking in terms of ui i think but i've never seen a 3d racing game coded in python that is actually playable
[07:33] <jack> again! I changed the /etc/inputrc, now i cant input the char "s"(even use copy with mouse),  so i cant use sudo to undo the change. Help!
[07:33] <drapelyk> should squid be able to work right out of the box?
[07:33] <dabaRCo> I am not at all familiar with python, but perhaps there is an option to compile, or a jit compiler, maybe that is what they did.
[07:34] <bob2> no, there's none of either
[07:34] <bob2> well, there is psyco, but it's arch-specific and not comonly used
[07:34] <setite> whats a good linux shooter
[07:34] <setite> dont say doom or ut2k
[07:35] <dabaRCo> 1 part vodka, 1 part kahlua
[07:35] <cafuego> setite: frozen bubble?
[07:35] <bonee> how do i found out my root pass
[07:35] <dabaRCo> setite: which reminds me...Im gonna go get my ass kicked by the computer in free doom.
[07:35] <cafuego> bonee: There isn't one. You don't need it. Log in as user, then run sudo (it asks for the USER password).
[07:36] <bob2> bonee: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:36] <setite> wtf
[07:36] <dabaRCo> bob2: gonna be there for ubuntu below zero?
[07:36] <robotgeek> dabaRCo: python has a compile program called psyco or smthing, but i dont think it helps much
[07:36] <setite> i tried to get doom demo and its showing me a text file
[07:36] <robotgeek> hehe
[07:36] <bob2> dabaRCo: no, sadly
[07:36] <drapelyk> could anyone guess as to why SSH port forwarding would return bind: address already in use and channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannont listen to port :1234
[07:37] <setite> whats ubuntu b elow zero
[07:37] <dabaRCo> me neither:( youre sad too?
[07:37] <bonee> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:37] <bonee> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:37] <dabaRCo> setite: whats google?
[07:37] <Burgundavia> setite, the next Ubuntu development conference
[07:37] <bimberi> bonee: put sudo in front of the command
[07:37] <robotgeek> bonee: sudo
[07:37] <Burgundavia> dabaR, pelae don't say that around here
[07:37] <Madpilot> dabaR: you're evil... ;)
[07:37] <dabaRCo> I sure am.
[07:37] <kwolf> Has anyone been able to get Networkmanager to work in breezy?
[07:37] <setite> that sounds fun
[07:37] <cafuego> Is that going to be held in a sensible location?
[07:37] <bob2> dabaRCo: well, it means I don't get to hang out with the gang again
[07:37] <tamarack> hey, anyone happen to know the exact release date for the final breezy?
[07:37] <robotgeek> kwolf: yeah
[07:37] <drapelyk> could anyone guess as to why SSH port forwarding would return bind: address already in use and channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannont listen to port :1234
[07:37] <Burgundavia> setite, going to held in Montreal, CAnada
[07:37] <pprince_> drapelyk: You already have a program bound to that port, possibly the same one you're trying to start is already running.
[07:37] <dabaRCo> Montreal.
[07:37] <Burgundavia> tamarack, oct 13
[07:37] <setite> oooh when
[07:37] <cafuego> Guess not, then.
[07:37] <bonee>  sudo dpkg -i bum_1.3.2-1_all.deb
[07:37] <tamarack> thanks
[07:37] <eric123> hey guys, i got some questions on this.. im new to linux
[07:37] <fortran01> where can I find the difference between hotplug and udev. If my system uses udev, can I revert back to hotplug?
[07:37] <robotgeek> kwolf: u on x86?
[07:37] <setite> i would go just for an excuse to visit montreal
[07:38] <bonee> (Reading database ... 75554 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:38] <bonee> Preparing to replace bum 1.3.2-1 (using bum_1.3.2-1_all.deb) ...
[07:38] <bonee> Unpacking replacement bum ...
[07:38] <bonee> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of bum:
[07:38] <bonee>  bum depends on libgtk2-perl; however:
[07:38] <bonee>   Package libgtk2-perl is not installed.
[07:38] <dabaRCo> bob2: I cant come cause its during school...
[07:38] <drapelyk> pprince_ how can I check?
[07:38] <kwolf> robotgeek, yes
[07:38] <bonee>  bum depends on libgnome2-perl; however:
[07:38] <bonee>   Package libgnome2-perl is not installed.
[07:38] <tamarack> I'm running the breezy preview now
[07:38] <bonee>  bum depends on libglib-perl; however:
[07:38] <pprince_> drapelyk: netstat -l
[07:38] <bonee>   Package libglib-perl is not installed.
[07:38] <dabaRCo> bonee: stop pasting.
[07:38] <bonee> dpkg: error processing bum (--install):
[07:38] <bonee>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:38] <bonee> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:38] <bonee>  bum
[07:38] <setite> die bonee
[07:38] <Burgundavia> bonee, pleae don't paste in here
[07:38] <bonee> ok sorry
[07:38] <cafuego> fortran01: They are two different things, that Do different things. Normally you'd use both.
[07:38] <bob2> bonee: do. not. flood. in. here.
[07:38] <Quinthius> fortran01, hotplug and udev aren't mutually exclusive. i think they work together... i.e. udev needs hotplug
[07:38] <robotgeek> kwolf: i am gonna /msg u? is that okay?
[07:38] <setite> we need to add a votekick feature to ubotu
[07:38] <bob2> dabaRCo: I can't come because it's $2400 of flights away
[07:38] <kwolf> robotgeek, sure
[07:38] <dabaRCo> bob2: /topic and use the paste url from there...
[07:38] <bob2> setite: no, that would be crap
[07:39] <setite> bob2, nah it would be fine if you had to have like 15 people vote
[07:39] <dabaRCo> bob2: ya, youre in australia I gathered...
[07:39] <setite> just a temp kick
[07:39] <fortran01> How do I know if a device gets hotplugged?
[07:39] <drapelyk> pprince_ it says" tcp6       0      0  ip6-localhost:1234
[07:39] <drapelyk> pprince_ what is that?
[07:39] <pprince_> drapelyk: netstat -lnp --inet would be better
[07:39] <setite> or if ubotu just watched for floods and kicked them out real quick
[07:39] <bob2> setite: kickong flood would be handy, yes
[07:40] <cafuego> setite: The bot won't be op, it's more likely to have bugs then even the slowest human.
[07:40] <dabaRCo> heh. setite how would ubotu know I did not register 15 nicks?
[07:40] <Quinthius> the bot in #gentoo autokicks if someone spams more than 4 lines i think... would be nice to have here
[07:40] <drapelyk> pprince_ it says SSH is using that port...   ?
[07:40] <cafuego> !vote
[07:40] <pprince_> drapelyk: the program you're trying to run is already running.  did it give you a PID number beside the name?  try kill <pid>
[07:40] <setite> dabaRCo, i wasnt talking about clone kicking
[07:40] <robotgeek> kwolf: kapish?
[07:41] <setite> dabaRCo, but int he warez rooms they kick clones... soem instant.. soem do sweeps
[07:41] <dabaRCo> setite: you said 15 users vote. I set up 15 nicks, on diff machines, and then vote you off.
[07:41] <cafuego> setite: Well, they trade warez there too. Should we start doing that as well?
[07:41] <dabaRCo> anyhow, theory:) later...
[07:41] <robotgeek> kwolf: i'm going away now, bbl
[07:41] <setite> cafuego, my point was simply that it is possible for a bot to know if someone has clone knicks
[07:42] <silverton> setite, aka, two people, same hostname?
[07:42] <silverton> s/people/nicks
[07:42] <fortran01> How do I know if hotplugging is working?
[07:42] <drapelyk> pprince_ ok it worked, but I still can't get my browser working.  i'm using a Squid proxy on the ssh server
[07:42] <bob2> kicking people from the same hostname is stupid
[07:42] <cafuego> setite: only if they're a complete idiot and using the same host for all of them.
[07:42] <bob2> fortran01: did your system boot?
[07:42] <setite> and if you really wanted to trick the bot so be it... but thats also why i suggested after that the bot just auto kick spammers/flooders
[07:42] <pprince_> drapelyk: that I don't have time to help you with.  Sorry.
[07:42] <kwolf> damn.  still lookinf for a little NetworkManager help
[07:42] <drapelyk> ok
[07:43] <setite> cafuego, i dont know much about hosts.. i just know i cant join them from any two or one pcs behind the same router...
[07:43] <bob2> kwolf: you don't seem to have explained the problem yet
[07:43] <dabaRCo> kwolf: that is not a very good post. post information relevant to your issue. preferably all in one line.
[07:44] <topyli> setite: so, nobody in the house cannot join a channel because one of them was kickbanned? that's not very sane
[07:44] <cafuego> setite: Any half-decent flooder or spammer would use a series of DIFFERENT hosts via a botnet.
[07:44] <topyli> setite: although i know a channel that bans whole ISPs
[07:44] <setite> it was for a warez room... didnt want people getting extra spots on the bots
[07:44] <bob2> setite: the network already checks for ridiculous numbers of people joining fro mthe one host
[07:44] <cafuego> setite: If the person is from a SINGLE host, a normal +q mode from a human will be fine.
[07:44] <bob2> where "ridiculous" = 4 or something
[07:45] <setite> jesus people i was just saying that they should give ubotu some way to get rid of flooding... end of discussion
[07:45] <libervisco> hm, how to upgrade to gnome 2.12 from Hoary?
[07:45] <cafuego> setite: if the warez people don't want leechers, they shouldn't offer warez. Was that on freenode.net btw?
[07:45] <silverton> bob2, what if several people from a college connect to the same IRCnet?
[07:45] <bob2> libervisco: that involves upgrading to breezy
[07:45] <silverton> suchas this one
[07:45] <topyli> libervisco: you don't. you need breezy
[07:45] <libervisco> synaptic doesn't seem to be selecting upgrades properly when I click on "mark all upgrades"
[07:45] <fortran01> my output for cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is: /sbin/udevsend what does this mean? udev is replacing hotplug?
[07:45] <bob2> silverton: then they may get removed, if they come from the same ip
[07:45] <dabaRCo> setite: end of discussion can be achieved by stopping posting as well. But I know how you feel:)
[07:45] <bob2> fortran01: yes
[07:45] <cafuego> setite: Ubotu has a flood detection script, he'll just never get a +o here. Ever.
[07:45] <kwolf> bob2, network-manager is installed.  It keeps setting my resolv.conf to my local dns server.  I want to use my existing settings, or DNS provided by DHCP.  Also NM seems to be a pretty current CVS build, is the VPN support working?
[07:46] <topyli> libervisco: or you could install garnome or cvsgnome on hoary :)
[07:46] <libervisco> yeah well..
[07:46] <setite> thats too bad... in that case people shouldnt whine when people flood\
[07:46] <libervisco> how come I can't get it with apt
[07:46] <bob2> kwolf: er...it should be pointing /etc/resolv.conf at bind9 running on the same machine, afaik
[07:46] <bob2> libervisco: of course yo ucan
[07:46] <bob2> libervisco: it involves upgrading to breezay
[07:46] <libervisco> How?
[07:47] <libervisco> I'm on modem, can I do it selectively, I mean, not installing everything?
[07:47] <cafuego> setite: I find it nicer to assume people can READ when they're online.
[07:47] <cafuego> setite: As opposed to preemptively banning them.
[07:47] <setite> never mentioned banning as an option though did i
[07:47] <fortran01> thanks bob2
[07:47] <topyli> libervisco: it will take all night on modem :(
[07:47] <setite> i mentioned kick.. just a kick to stop the flooding
[07:48] <bob2> libervisco: it will still be hundreds of megabytes
[07:48] <setite> not a perm ban.. not a temp ban... shit even muting the room and devoicing the offender for a minute or two would work.... but clearly no one cares... so flood away
[07:48] <bob2> libervisco: if you're on dialup, wait until breezy releases and get a CD of it off someone else
[07:48] <libervisco> well, I guess I'll just have to be patient and wait for the full breezy release then
[07:48] <dabaRCo> setite: if you want an end of discussion you can always stop posting about it.
[07:48] <bob2> setite: enough
[07:48] <topyli> libervisco: which shouldn't matter if you pay a monthly fee, but it does if you pay per minute
[07:48] <libervisco> yeah
[07:48] <setite> last word
[07:48] <dabaRCo> heh:)
[07:48] <libervisco> topyli, per our :\
[07:48] <setite> nah i will stop when people stop feeding the argument...
[07:48] <eric123> hey guys, need help, is there any way to set up a ati dual monitor ?
[07:48] <setite> flood
[07:48] <setite> flood
[07:48] <Quinthius> setite: actually i think you mute specific people
[07:49] <dabaRCo> XD
[07:49] <cafuego> Haha
[07:49] <eric123> im usuing ubuntu and i cant get a driver for my radeon 7200 to support it
[07:49] <bob2> eric123: yes, "xinerama" is the keyword
[07:49] <eric123> can anyone help me?
[07:49] <dabaRCo> I was just waiting with that typed out.
[07:49] <luckyaba> my webcam is only showing a grey screen... anyone know how to fix that?
[07:49] <topyli> libervisco: it will be quicker than downloading the cd, but hours and hours still
[07:49] <bob2> eric123: you already have a driver that supports it
[07:49] <eric123> ive been looking to download that but i cant find it
[07:49] <pinoyko> how to network server to client plz help
[07:49] <spanglesontoast> how do I mount a windows hard drive partition
[07:49] <spanglesontoast> ?
[07:49] <cafuego> pinoyko: network cable
[07:50] <eric123> do you have a link to it?
[07:50] <cafuego> !tell spanglesontoast -about winmac_fstab
[07:50] <cafuego> hmm
[07:50] <dabaRCo> cafuego: I was kinda hoping for a kick after the last word post...it would have gone nice...
[07:50] <cafuego> spanglesontoast: /msg ubotu ntfs; it will paste you  aurl with a script.
[07:50] <libervisco> anyway, I'll wait..
[07:50] <libervisco> I have another question though...
[07:51] <eric123> anyone?
[07:51] <topyli> libervisco: maybe you could get the cd by running bittorrent while you're online anyway
[07:51] <bob2> eric123: you really found no documentation on google at all for "ubuntu xinerama howto"?
[07:51] <libervisco> a small thingie.. is there something that will make KDE QT apps look like GTK like there is for KDE making GTK apps look like QT?
[07:51] <Xenguy> z
[07:51] <topyli> libervisco: not that i know of. i'd love that
[07:51] <libervisco> topyli, yeah, but it'll still probably be too much, some say bittorent doesn't benefit at all on modem
[07:52] <libervisco> topyli, ok, I'll let you know if I find it :)
[07:52] <eric123> bob, to be dead honest, i just wasnt typing in the right stuff
[07:52] <topyli> libervisco: please do :)
[07:52] <eric123> sorry, i had like 2 hours of sleep in 3 days so im kinda in an out of my mind
[07:52] <bob2> eric123: now you know :)
[07:52] <spanglesontoast> ty
[07:52] <eric123> thanks bob, i might be asking alot of questions tonight
[07:52] <pinoyko> im mean to do network sharing all pc files pls help cafuego
[07:53] <Lemonzest> in the preview release, it says xorg with greater hardware compatability
[07:53] <Lemonzest> but does not say what
[07:53] <eric123> i really just want to get my monitor's to worka nd the res. up
[07:53] <bob2> pinoyko: you don't share "all pc files"
[07:53] <bob2> pinoyko: what specifically do you want to share?
[07:53] <floodbot> Te futueo et equum tuum
[07:53] <bob2> !+resolution
[07:53] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:53] <bob2> eric123: ^
[07:53] <kwolf> ok, I'm making progress.  Next question.  Can VPNC be used to connect to a SonicWall device?
[07:53] <Lemonzest> does it support dri with r300 based cards (without ati's drivers)
[07:53] <bob2> Lemonzest: no
[07:53] <floodbot> what is that a flood? one line?
[07:53] <dabaRCo> bob2: did the + ensure ubotu posted to the channel?
[07:54] <cafuego> Amazing, i think it's a function of coz.net or something.
[07:54] <Lemonzest> so no r300.sourceforge.com stuff in?
[07:54] <cafuego> floodbot: You'll note that trolling si ALSO againt channel rules.
[07:54] <Lapa> lo
[07:54] <pinoyko> i want to see every pc files
[07:54] <bob2> floodbot: I'm not in the mood for that crap, sorry
[07:54] <bob2> dabaRCo: yes
[07:54] <Lemonzest> i thought it was in for 6.8 or xorg?
[07:54] <dabaRCo> nice, thank.
[07:54] <bob2> dabaRCo: tho I thin kthe feature that stops it echoing long things is disabled anyway
[07:54] <floodbot> i did nothing... i am not trolling...
[07:54] <bob2> floodbot: then change your nick, and don't do that again
[07:55] <pinoyko> i dont need to have a server.
[07:55] <bob2> pinoyko: what files do you want to share?
[07:55] <pinoyko> just all my pcs will share their files
[07:55] <dabaRCo> its just a matter of grasping the trolling concept...
[07:55] <pinoyko> how to configure sharing.
[07:56] <bob2> !+test
[07:56] <ubotu> Working....
[07:56] <eric123> ok, serious.. im retarded
[07:56] <pinoyko> home files the root directory
[07:56] <Lemonzest> ATI users, while they may not be able to use this with the proprietary ATI drivers, may be able to if they use the open source R300 drivers. This is all, until XGL is finished.
[07:56] <eric123> can somone please IM me on aim or msn and walk me threw this?
[07:56] <Lemonzest> from here
[07:56] <Lemonzest> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56027&highlight=r300
[07:56] <pinoyko> how can i share it
[07:57] <dabaRCo> eric123: through what? we can do it in the channel...
[07:57] <eric123> alright
[07:57] <eric123> i got this link
[07:57] <eric123> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:57] <libervisco> topyli, here is something that might be useful: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Same_look_for_QT,_GTK_2_and_GTK_1_apps
[07:57] <bob2> I'd ignore anything the forums said on the topic, sadly
[07:57] <Perite> damnit everyone owns they already
[07:57] <libervisco> the  QtCurve thing, although I can't find it in apt
[07:57] <eric123> im tryin to set up dual monitors and fix my res so everythings not so big
[07:58] <bob2> eric123: and you followed that howto or not?
[07:58] <Androgynus> whats .run
[07:58] <bob2> .run is nothing
[07:58] <eric123> i dont know how to follow the how to... this is seriously like my 3 hour playing with this linux
[07:58] <bob2> it often denotes something you should run
[07:58] <Androgynus> nothing eh ok then
[07:58] <eric123> and i feel like a baby on this thing
[07:58] <bob2> eric123: which part of that page confuses you?
[07:58] <eric123> it says to run this, and i dont know how to run anything
[07:59] <bob2> then ask
[07:59] <topyli> libervisco: yeah, seems to point to kde-look.org. anyway, that's just bluecurve which i don't like much :(
[07:59] <eric123>  Run the following command.
[07:59] <eric123> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[07:59] <eric123> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[07:59] <eric123> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:59] <topyli> libervisco: the gtk-qt thing is smarter
[07:59] <atikatikbahhh> how to network all pc files
[07:59] <eric123> how , where do i run this
[07:59] <bob2> eric123: do not paste in here
[07:59] <atikatikbahhh> pls help me
[07:59] <bob2> eric123: you open a terminal
[07:59] <dabaRCo> eric123: well, you need to ask google what the tech specs of your monitor make and model page is. Then find out the vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor are. then input those as that wiki page says.
[07:59] <eric123> o alrigh sorry
[07:59] <bob2> eric123: applications -> system tools -> terminal
[07:59] <bob2> atikatikbahhh: changing your nick does not make your question less annoying
[07:59] <eric123> i got the term.
[08:00] <bob2> atikatikbahhh: what exactly do you want to share between these machines?
[08:00] <topyli> libervisco: for now, i've been just using the default windows-like theme of qt, then used qtconfig to change the colors to match my gtk theme. not too ugly
[08:00] <cafuego> evil client calling me for webmail access, the bugger is in Greece :-(
[08:00] <eric123> do i just copy and paste that into the terminal?
[08:00] <bob2> eric123: each line at a time, yes
[08:00] <cafuego> atikatikbahhh: Network the machines together, then set up either samba (easy) or NFS (a bit harder).
[08:00] <libervisco> topyli, yeah, I'm just nitpicking :)
[08:01] <libervisco> it looks alright actually :)
[08:01] <eric123> it says the thing then password
[08:01] <eric123> do i just type my password in or am i doing this wrong
[08:01] <atikatikbahhh> how to install samba or nfs
[08:01] <bob2> eric123: correct
[08:01] <bob2> atikatikbahhh: how have you installed packages in the past?
[08:01] <bur[n] er> libervisco: trying to make kde more gnome like?  check out kde-look.org for a gnome icon set :)  i found that helps make amarok bearable to use with the rest of gnome
[08:01] <dabaRCo> eric123: also right clicking on the desktop opens a context menu, with open a terminal as the first option
[08:01] <eric123> i did and it said missing destination file
[08:01] <libervisco> The "problem" is that both GNOME and KDE are soo good today that it is just so hard to finally decide which is better :P
[08:01] <cafuego> atikatikbahhh: Go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type 'Samba' in the search box.
[08:01] <bob2> eric123: then you cut and pasted in correctly
[08:01] <atikatikbahhh> i see. thru synaptic.
[08:01] <bob2> eric123: try again
[08:01] <topyli> libervisco: i did use a bluecurve variant for a long time in the past :)
[08:01] <bob2> atikatikbahhh: there you go
[08:01] <eric123> same one or the second one?
[08:02] <atikatikbahhh> search: samba or nfs. that's it?
[08:02] <bob2> eric123: the one you tried to do now
[08:02] <cafuego> atikatikbahhh: Just samba
[08:02] <bur[n] er> libervisco: maybe it's tough to decide because xfce is better than gnome and kde? ;)
[08:02] <Prowl3r> Can someone help me enable identd?
[08:02] <atikatikbahhh> samba. ok.
[08:02] <bob2> Prowl3r: why?
[08:02] <atikatikbahhh> im trying now
[08:02] <libervisco> bur[n] er, oh I've used Xfce for quite a while.. and yeah, it makes the choice even more difficult :D
[08:02] <Prowl3r> bob2,  basically so I can get on another IRC network
[08:03] <bob2> Prowl3r: but you're behind NAT?
[08:03] <eric123> it just keeps saying missing destination file
[08:03] <libervisco> I guess that's the consequence of using superior Free Software with superior choice :D
[08:03] <bob2> eric123: then you're copying it wrong
[08:03] <bob2> eric123: show us what you're pasting
[08:03] <libervisco> ah what a luxury, poor windows users for they'll never experience it (except if they switch) :D
[08:03] <Prowl3r> bob2, I can down it and re-enable it
[08:04] <bob2> Prowl3r: that doesn't really help
[08:04] <eric123> hold on
[08:04] <bob2> Prowl3r: you need to forward the ident port to your irc machine first
[08:04] <eric123> bob, ima need you to see what im lookin at and tell me if im on the right track.. ill post a link to the image
[08:04] <Prowl3r> umm bob2 I am the client not the server
[08:04] <dabaR> !+tab
[08:04] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.
[08:04] <bur[n] er> Prowl3r: but you're going to run an identd server
[08:05] <bob2> Prowl3r: ?
[08:05] <ian> is there any way to make a newly compiled/installed panel applet show up on the list without logging out?
[08:05] <eric123> ready
[08:05] <Prowl3r> True, Ubuntu does not come with one running I am guessing
[08:05] <eric123> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/oneafterdark/8953c377.png
[08:05] <eric123> thats what i see
[08:05] <bur[n] er> ian: kill and restart the gnome panel?
[08:05] <bob2> ian: pkill gnome-panel
[08:05] <bur[n] er> ian: you'll probably lose notification area icons though
[08:05] <bob2> Prowl3r: so, forward the port
[08:06] <bob2> Prowl3r: then come back and install the identd server
[08:06] <Lapa> hey, I have an issue with rythmbox or whats that basic player called.. I cant change the artist nor the album of the files in my library, can someone help me, I couldn't get any help from the beginner guides
[08:06] <Prowl3r> bob2, not sure on how to forward the port but I will read up on it
[08:06] <bob2> eric123: that doesn't show us the error at all
[08:07] <Androgynus> how to i run a run button in root... i set the root but nothing happened
[08:07] <bur[n] er> Lapa: you can't edit tags with rhythmbox yet... not until a new gstreamer is released... so.... use easytag :)
[08:07] <bob2> Androgynus: what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <eric123> then he should help me out
[08:07] <Androgynus> install doom3 demo
[08:07] <dabaR> eric123: you can also use the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl page to paste text, and even upload screenshots. courtesy of seveas.
[08:07] <bob2> eric123: you can't expect help from strangers
[08:07] <Androgynus> i chmodded it so it will run..
[08:07] <bob2> eric123: and you haven't shown us the error from cp yet
[08:07] <Androgynus> now i ran it and it said it need root
[08:08] <kwolf> is there a grapical front end to openswan?
[08:08] <bur[n] er> Androgynus: sudo blah
[08:08] <Androgynus> but i think its working.. nothing happened but it popped up the second time...
[08:08] <bur[n] er> !tell Androgynus about sudo
[08:08] <libervisco> synaptic looks ugly to me.. theme isn't set for root ..
[08:08] <Androgynus> well im running it in a run button
[08:08] <Androgynus> dude i know sudo
[08:08] <bur[n] er> use gksudo
[08:08] <ian> bur[n] er: do you know if that is something that will ever Just Work..? :)
[08:08] <bur[n] er> gksudo == graphical sudo basically
[08:08] <Androgynus> ok
[08:09] <bur[n] er> got me ian
[08:09] <valtea> i have just receive my CD's
[08:09] <valtea> where do i report it
[08:09] <bur[n] er> Androgynus: you could also just open a term and run sudo from there of course
[08:09] <ian> bur[n] er: seems like it could re-read the list when you click Add...
[08:09] <bur[n] er> Androgynus: you'll see error messages if you use a term
[08:09] <Androgynus> uh oh
[08:10] <bur[n] er> ian: i'm not a l33t gnome hacker by any means
[08:10] <Androgynus> damn i was gonna try a term...
[08:10] <bob2> valtea: report what?
[08:10] <libervisco> bur[n] er, I tried with gksudo gnome-control-center and set the theme their, but it didn't apply to synaptic
[08:10] <valtea> report that i have received the cds safely
[08:10] <Androgynus> i use kde... whats the gui sudo for that
[08:10] <bur[n] er> libervisco: close and reopen synaptic I assume?
[08:10] <bur[n] er> Androgynus: gksudo ;)
[08:10] <Prowl3r> hey bob2 I have to forward that port on my router correct?
[08:10] <Androgynus> well i couldnt figure that out... but its runnign in terminal fine
[08:10] <libervisco> bur[n] er, nope
[08:10] <libervisco> didn't work
[08:10] <bob2> Prowl3r: yes
[08:11] <bob2> or use a less silly IRC network
[08:11] <Prowl3r> Alright done
[08:11] <bob2> valtea: heh, no need
[08:11] <valtea> thanks bob2
[08:11] <valtea> i have tried the live CD
[08:11] <topyli> libervisco: this is pretty much how well "integrated" my gtk, athena, and qt apps are: http://siltala.net/comp/mixed-desktop.jpg . not much to sing about :)
[08:11] <valtea> it is booting to Command line login
[08:11] <valtea> whats the login details?
[08:12] <bur[n] er> libervisco: gksudo gnome-theme-manager maybe?
[08:12] <Prowl3r> bob2,  what identd server app should I use from apt-get?
[08:12] <bob2> Prowl3r: identd
[08:12] <bob2> er, oidentd
[08:12] <libervisco> bur[n] er, I think that'll work
[08:12] <libervisco> Thanks, I gotta run now..
[08:12] <libervisco> cya
[08:12] <Prowl3r> I don't find identd - I found ident2
[08:13] <bob2> Prowl3r: 16:12:25           bob2 | er, oidentd
[08:13] <alexandros> can someone help me with my sound?
[08:13] <Prowl3r> Alright looks good installing now
[08:14] <Prowl3r> bob2, I think I will have to edit /etc/services too correct?
[08:15] <bur[n] er> you gotta forward that port, should be about it
[08:15] <bob2> Prowl3r: no
[08:15] <bob2> that file has nothing to do this
[08:15] <No1Viking> I get the following error when starting gedit: "(gedit:11675): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" Any ideas?
[08:15] <bob2> it's an informational file
[08:15] <Prowl3r> bob2,  so after install do I need to edit anything?
[08:15] <bob2> No1Viking: don't run it with su
[08:15] <bob2> Prowl3r: no
[08:15] <bur[n] er> No1Viking: use sudo
[08:15] <No1Viking> OK
[08:15] <Prowl3r> bob2,  Thanks alot buddy for your help
[08:15] <Androgynus> hmmm i gotta get doom3 to work for my resolution
[08:15] <bur[n] er> heh, i love this chan... same questions day in and day out ;)
[08:16] <Androgynus> any idea how to run the demo?
[08:16] <Androgynus> oh nvm.. doom3-demo not doom3
[08:17] <Prowl3r> btw we are running a Ubuntu system for one of our Linux classes that I am taking, grub had to be installed on fd0 ( due to our lab setup) and it even detected hda which runs winxp/win2k and was ready to run it
[08:17] <mrd`> Has anyone else ever had the error ``Undefined color: "WINDOW_FOREGROUND"'' when trying to run emacs?
[08:17] <bob2> yes
[08:18] <bob2> if you're using breezy, file a bug
[08:18] <mrd`> bob2: Alright.
[08:18] <topyli> mrd`: no, my emacs colors are all well defined :)
[08:18] <mrd`> topyli: Show off.
[08:18] <topyli> hah
[08:18] <hunterp> where is xine or vlc for ubuntu?
[08:18] <bur[n] er> !tell hunterp about repositories
[08:19] <chejrw> Hey everyone: I was just trying to get Ubuntu 5.04 running, and when I boot, I keep getting the message "irq 18: nobody cared..." then it lists from IDE parameters and unloads IRQ 18, then starts all over again.  The only article on the forum I could find was about SATA compatibility, bit I don't have SATA.
[08:19] <mrd`> Actually, there seems to already be a bug filed.
[08:20] <mrd`> bugzilla also claims it's fixed though...
[08:20] <hyphenated> how scary is breezy right now?
[08:21] <Madpilot> Terrifying. It eats brains.
[08:21] <mrd`> It's much much better than before, but it's still flakey for me.  (Possibly because I've been running it since just weeks after Hoary's release, and all through the huge transitions.)
[08:21] <Madpilot> actually, I don't know, I'm still running Hoary here... ;)
[08:22] <kevcart3> hi, is ther anyone pretty experienced to help me get windows to boot from grub again?
[08:22] <mustard> I'm not very experienced, but I'll listen :)
[08:22] <kevcart3> haha
[08:22] <kevcart3> okay
[08:22] <mrd`> kevcart3: You need to setup a chainloader rule.  If you used the Ubuntu installer, it should have noticed it and added it automatically.
[08:23] <kevcart3> well, the problem is a little more advanced than that
[08:23] <kevcart3> made a big mistake
[08:23] <mustard> how did it get corrupted?
[08:23] <topyli> hyphenated: i'm only having little problems with evolution, otherwise things are fine and dandy
[08:24] <kevcart3> the computer has 3 hdds, one (hda) that i wanted to set up as FAT32 to share files between xp and ubuntu
[08:24] <mustard> yep
[08:24] <virgule> I want to revert a key on my keyboard.. how do I proceed?
[08:24] <hyphenated> "revert a key" ?
[08:24] <ian> virgule: go to change it then hit Backspace
[08:24] <kevcart3> i used qparted to convert the partition from NTFS to FAT32 (big mistake, caused xp to not boot anymore)
[08:24] <virgule> hmmk.. I want <shift>+` to act as just `
[08:25] <mustard> so this is a partition completly seperate to the XP partition?
[08:25] <virgule> so I can have a tild without shift
[08:25] <kevcart3> yes, it is a completely seperate hdd
[08:25] <virgule> errr
[08:25] <Quinthius> virgule, you may have to use xmodmap for that
[08:25] <chejrw> does anyone want to give me a hand here?
[08:26] <kevcart3> the windows partition is located on /dev/hdb1
[08:26] <mustard> hmm..and changing the file format affected the boot sequence
[08:26] <virgule> alright
[08:26] <kevcart3> i tried fixmbr from xp recovery console
[08:26] <kevcart3> and fixboot
[08:26] <kevcart3> if i can get the windows bootloader back working, i can re-install grub
[08:26] <hyphenated> I avoid messing with keyboard layouts, because it sucks when you use someone else's keyboard. one exception is that I disable Caps Lock
[08:26] <kevcart3> yeah
[08:26] <Quinthius> hyphenated, swap ctrl with caps!
[08:27] <hyphenated> Quinthius: like the good ol' SUN keyboard layout? no thanks :-)
[08:27] <Quinthius> hyphenated: hell if i know where it came from, i just know it's less stretching and capslock is useless :)
[08:28] <mustard> so what happens if you return the partition to NTFS?
[08:28] <kevcart3> well, haven't tried that yetr
[08:28] <meko> i tried to transfer my hard disk to another computer that has a ubuntu installed in it , it gave an error msg what can i do to correct it
[08:28] <kevcart3> should i do that?
[08:28] <meko> ?
[08:28] <hyphenated> I'm with you on caps lock being useless, but I'd have trouble using my own (and other people's) computers if I remapped that ctrl key :-)
[08:28] <mustard> might be a waste of time of course :)
[08:28] <kevcart3> well, any suggestion will help
[08:28] <hyphenated> Caps becomes an extra control key, but I don't use it. I use the normal one
[08:28] <mustard> just seems to be an issue with the file format changing
[08:28] <kevcart3> yeah, okay
[08:29] <mustard> have you tried editing the grub menu?
[08:29] <kevcart3> yes
[08:29] <virgule> I dont understand how xmodmap work :(
[08:29] <mustard> ah k
[08:29] <mustard> I don't have a clue how to do that myself
[08:29] <meko> i tried to transfer my hard disk to another computer that has a ubuntu installed in it , it gave an error msg when i transferd it , what can i do to correct it ?
[08:29] <cevizoglu> how do I re-enable eth0's internet connection when I've booted without the eth cable plugged in?
[08:29] <kevcart3> i mean, i'm not really experienced in this, but enough to get around
[08:30] <jk-> does anyone keep stats for #ubuntu ?
[08:30] <hyphenated> cevizoglu: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[08:30] <mustard> yeah
[08:30] <cevizoglu> ubotu does
[08:30] <ubotu> cevizoglu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:30] <bimberi> meko: tell us what the error msg was for a start
[08:30] <jk-> heh
[08:30] <meko> i cant remember
[08:30] <mustard> in your grub menu is there any reference to the file system of the partition in question?
[08:31] <kevcart3> yeah
[08:31] <hyphenated> cevizoglu: or use the network-admin frontend.
[08:31] <null> anybody can help me? i wanna know how to unpack .deb
[08:31] <Sperm-Bed> anyone install steam on linux in here??
[08:31] <kevcart3> let me post some info from grub
[08:31] <null> .deb files
[08:31] <virgule> unpack?
[08:31] <mustard> ok PM the paste
[08:31] <bimberi> null: unpack?, you want to install it right?
[08:31] <virgule> do you want install a .deb?
[08:31] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt in breezy?
[08:31] <null> yes i want install it
[08:31] <meko> bimberi:does ubunto have difficulty in adapting to another hardware ?
[08:32] <mustard> it should be ok meko
[08:32] <virgule> null:sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:32] <null> i do it, ant it throw me an error :s
[08:32] <meko> u mean it can adapt to another cpu
[08:33] <kevcart3> 	rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[08:33] <kevcart3> 	makeactive
[08:33] <kevcart3> 	chainloader +1
[08:33] <nalioth> kevcart3: watch the flooding
[08:33] <kevcart3> okay
[08:34] <kevcart3> having problem
[08:34] <kevcart3> pasting it to a PM
[08:34] <mustard> send DCC as text file if you like
[08:34] <kevcart3> okay
[08:34] <meko> !tell me mp3
[08:34] <Quinthius> virgule: for a custom keymap, you probably have to copy your keyboard layout from /usr/X11/lib/xkb/symbols/ to your home directory, then change the entry for TLDE and load the file with xmodmap
[08:35] <virgule> Quinthius:..im on it..thx
[08:35] <Quinthius> virgule: or you could just backup the system keymap and change it
[08:35] <fluffybunny_> i get a disturbing message on shut down - something about deactivating swap...fail -- what should I do?
[08:35] <silverton> upgraded to breezy, and the nvidia driver broke, ran dpkg's reconfigure util, then did nvidia-glx-config enable, tried running, error says "no screens found"
[08:35] <nalioth> kevcart3: you can also use #flood or a pastebin so more folks can help
[08:35] <mustard> ah ok..thanks nalioth
[08:35] <kevcart3> sorry, i suck at irc
[08:36] <kevcart3> :-(
[08:36] <mustard> I'm in #flood
[08:36] <kevcart3> okay
[08:36] <Quinthius> virgule: look for "key <TLDE>" should be right near the top, change "grave" to "asciitilde" ... you might want to change the asciitilde to grave, so you can still get the ` char if needed
[08:37] <Quinthius> virgule: in other words, swap the two
[08:37] <virgule> that is exactly what I wanna do
[08:37] <virgule> now I see 177 keyboards in ../xkb/symbols
[08:37] <virgule> which is mine?
[08:37] <Quinthius> virgule: you dont know your keyboard abbreviation?
[08:38] <virgule> I guess no
[08:38] <virgule> :)
[08:38] <silverton> my kernel and the restricted-modules versions match
[08:38] <Quinthius> virgule: actually i think there's an easier way
[08:39] <virgule>  me think its en_US
[08:39] <Quinthius> virgule:  do this: xmodmap -pke | grep grave
[08:39] <virgule> keycode  49 = grave asciitilde
[08:40] <Quinthius> one sec
[08:40] <virgule> I guess i want it be keycode  49 = asciitilde grave?
[08:40] <Quinthius> im learning this as we go :)
[08:40] <Quinthius> right
[08:40] <Quinthius> i think you can just put "keycode 49 = asciitilde grave" in ~/.xmodmaprc
[08:40] <Quinthius> and load it
[08:40] <TW> anyone can tell me the name of the tool for network configuration installed on ubuntu?
[08:41] <virgule> I have no such file.. shall I create one?
[08:41] <virgule> keycode  49 = grave asciitilde > ~/.xmodmaprc    ??
[08:41] <ian> TW: System / Admin / Network ?
[08:41] <virgule> oooh
[08:41] <Quinthius> virgule: yeah, i just tested it
[08:41] <TW> yes
[08:41] <Quinthius> virgule: put the expression in quotes though...
[08:41] <Quinthius> virgule: if you are echoing it in
[08:41] <TW> ian: can you tell me the name of the binary
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> gnome-network-preferences
[08:42] <virgule> now to 'load it'?
[08:42] <Quinthius> virgule: xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
[08:43] <Quinthius> virgule: another thing you can do is: xmodmap -e "keycode 49 = asciitilde grave"
[08:43] <Quinthius> virgule: if you dont want to use a file
[08:43] <ian> TW: network-admin
[08:43] <abarbaccia> hey - if i wanted to do a clean install of breezy - but didn't want to lose the data in my home directory
[08:43] <abarbaccia> what do i do?
[08:43] <abarbaccia> delete all the . folders?
[08:43] <bonee> my gnome is messed up
[08:43] <virgule> xmodmap:  /home/virgule/.xmodmaprc:0:  bad keysym name 'grace' in keysym list
[08:43] <bonee> i can't find my progz
[08:43] <Quinthius> virgule: typo!
[08:43] <arkais> who have gnome 2.12 runing?
[08:43] <virgule> ohh. my god... lol nevermind
[08:43] <bonee> help!!??!!??!!
[08:43] <Quinthius> hehe
[08:43] <ian> bonee: details?
[08:44] <Ubuntu> How do you change the display color depth 8bit, 16bit, 24bit, etc?
[08:44] <bobby> heh
[08:44] <virgule> YEEEPEEE!
[08:44] <bonee> when i click on the foot on the top left.... the is no progz
[08:44] <Quinthius> virgule: make sure the expression in the file doesnth ave quotes around it btw. i meant that if you were doing something like: echo "blahblah" > .xmodmaprc
[08:44] <bobby> not sure how ubuntu likes you to do it, but in your xorg.conf file it is defined
[08:44] <Madpilot> bonee: nothing at all?
[08:44] <bonee> nope
[08:44] <Madpilot> !tell Ubuntu about fixres
[08:44] <bonee> but run prog
[08:44] <virgule> cat ~/.xmodmaprc    output    keycode  49 = asciitilde grave --its all good!
[08:45] <Madpilot> bonee: you mean "Run Application"?
[08:45] <bonee> yea
[08:45] <ian> bonee: how did this happen?
[08:45] <Quinthius> virgule: cool. i think im going to do this too, ~ is used more than `
[08:45] <bonee> not really sure
[08:45] <ian> bonee: were you deleting stuff?
[08:45] <virgule> actually
[08:45] <bonee> i don't think so
[08:45] <virgule> now I can go home fast
[08:45] <Quinthius> virgule: you can have this autoloaded when you log in, but im not sure where to put the command... ~/.xsession maybe
[08:45] <Ubuntu> Thanks bobby. - i am still a bit confused. - i need 16 bit color for one app and 24bit for another. would like to switch it with each app.
[08:46] <bonee> can i get a file or some thing to fix it
[08:46] <TW> i don't find it on synaptic
[08:46] <abarbaccia> does breezy have a backport / extras repository like hoary did?
[08:46] <Quinthius> abarbaccia: i think no backport, and have to se hoary-extras for now
[08:47] <abarbaccia> and if i wanna upgrade cleanly - like a fresh install - do i just delete all the hidden files in my home directory
[08:47] <abarbaccia> i want all my preferences to be gone
[08:47] <abarbaccia> but not my data
[08:47] <virgule> I think its permanent
[08:48] <Quinthius> virgule: it shouldnt be permanent, you need to specify somewhere to load xmodmap
[08:48] <Madpilot> abarbaccia: I think that works - might want to make backups of some of those . files, just in case.
[08:48] <abarbaccia> yea - i'm gonna back up the home directory before i do it just incase
[08:48] <Quinthius> virgule: i'm not sure how to do it when using gdm, but using the old startx method (no login manager), you put the xmodmap command in ~/.xinitrc
[08:48] <virgule> must be in /etc/init.d/...
[08:48] <silverton> I was just in here a moment ago, I upgraded to Breezy, and I can't get the nvidia drivers to work,  The X Server output error tells me that the nvidia module can not be found
[08:49] <Quinthius> virgule: well, they may have it set up to auto-load whatever is in ~/.xmodmaprc.... but dunno
[08:49] <CaiN_SA> hmmm silverton
[08:49] <spermite>  SteamInstall.exe do i need to make that a deb?
[08:49] <mustard> I don't think that will work spermite
[08:49] <Quinthius> virgule: im pretty sure gdm uses ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession...  or something
[08:50] <silverton> Yes CaiN_SA ?
[08:50] <fanskapet> blurp
[08:50] <Ubuntu> SteamInstall.exe? - "Cedega" emulation?
[08:50] <spermite> yes
[08:50] <CaiN_SA> silverton, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-386
[08:50] <CaiN_SA> that should work
[08:50] <virgule> im not I have no ~.xsession neither ~.xinit thingys :/
[08:50] <CaiN_SA> and
[08:50] <silverton> CaiN_SA: already installed to my knowledge
[08:51] <CaiN_SA> silverton, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[08:51] <Quinthius> virgule: you wont by default, they are for putting extra commands in that you want loaded when you log in
[08:51] <bonee> can ne one help
[08:51] <Quinthius> virgule: hold on, i'll test :P
[08:51] <CaiN_SA> that last one should be the problem
[08:51] <mustard> spermite: have you read anything at the Cedega website?
[08:51] <silverton> CaiN_SA: insalled
[08:51] <virgule> I noticed ttys still use the old modmap
[08:51] <silverton> *installed
[08:51] <CaiN_SA> hmm
[08:51] <CaiN_SA> then it should work
[08:52] <CaiN_SA> thats only modules to do with nvidia and xorg
[08:52] <Quinthius> virgule: yeah xmodmap is for X, tty's use a different keymap system (using loadkeys and a keymap file)
[08:52] <silverton> heh, should work, but doesn't
[08:52] <Quinthius> virgule: brb
[08:52] <CaiN_SA> weird tho
[08:52] <virgule> ..holding on..
[08:52] <spermite> mustard yes but didnt understand much
[08:52] <mustard> I've only read instructions for wine
[08:52] <tamarack> has anyone had any experience with WifiRadar?
[08:53] <silverton> :(
[08:53] <mustard> In wine you can create a fake windows section and you install all the windows file in the fake windows directory
[08:53] <mustard> you need to download a whole lot of windows files first
[08:53] <Madeye> Hi, guys i'm in dependency hell, cannot install x-common with libxau6, libxdmcp6 while all depends on each other (NOTE) i'm upgrading to breezy
[08:55] <mustard> sounds scary Madeye
[08:55] <nalioth> mustard: the traditional method is to use your existing win9x directory
[08:55] <Madeye> Musard hmm any idea?
[08:56] <mustard> not really Madeye, soz
[08:57] <mustard> I'm out....cya ppl
[08:57] <spermite> ok how would i install this hlds_l_1120_full.bin.part
[08:58] <bimberi> spermite: hm, the .part bit would indicate that you've only got a partial download
[08:59] <spermite> well its not done. but i getting ahead of myself
[09:00] <bimberi> spermite: hehe, ok, well it will probably end up being a .bin file which you can run by typing ./whatever.bin in a terminal
[09:01] <spermite> =0) ok
[09:03] <chipmunk> hello
[09:04] <chipmunk> is wine included in this Ubuntu Hedgehog can run the window-based yahoo m?
[09:04] <silverton> not having a gui-- >.<
[09:04] <bob2> why bother?
[09:04] <CaiN_SA> chipmunk,
[09:04] <bob2> gaim does yahoo im just fine
[09:04] <CaiN_SA> that q makes no sence
[09:04] <CaiN_SA> mornin bob2
[09:05] <jk-> mIRC under wine! :D
[09:05] <CaiN_SA> mirc under wine doesnt work 100%
[09:05] <Quinthius> virgule: still there?
[09:05] <virgule> ya
[09:06] <virgule> im trying hard to figure stuffs out
[09:06] <Quinthius> virgule: it looks like gnome detects ~/.xmodmaprc automatically and asks if you want to merge it
[09:06] <yum> i have a problem i like to how to network pls help
[09:06] <Quinthius> virgule: have you logged out and back in yet since making .xmodmaprc?
[09:06] <chipmunk> y?
[09:06] <crashbox> ne1 recommendations for installing xmule and/or limewire
[09:06] <crashbox> ne*
[09:06] <Madeye> guys please help, I need to get out of this dependency hell
[09:06] <Quinthius> virgule: the .xsession stuff appears to be unneeded (and i couldnt get it to work anyway)
[09:06] <virgule> nope.. btw im in KDE. I'll just do it and see if it goes fine.
[09:06] <crashbox> i can get kine to install but it wont run, and xmule wont install
[09:07] <bob2> Madeye: you need to provide a lot more information if you want help
[09:07] <crashbox> lime*
[09:07] <virgule> brb
[09:07] <Quinthius> virgule: oh, dont know about kde, but gnome detected the file and asked if i wanted to load it
[09:07] <virgule> k
[09:08] <citrus_> hello all
[09:09] <Madeye> hello again, sorry but got disconnected, please help me in solving dependency hell guys
[09:09] <HiddenWolf> How do I see which package installs a file?
[09:09] <Madeye> it's x-common with libxau6 and libxdmcp6
[09:09] <bob2> Madeye: no one can possibly help you unless you show us your /etc/apt/sources.list, output fro mapt and tell us what you did
[09:09] <bob2> HiddenWolf: dpkg -S path/to/file
[09:09] <citrus_> i have a question...  with gksudo    i get an error         i would like to run       gksudu Eterm --borderless       but when i do that  gksudo things that i am passing that --borderless argument to itself and not to eterm  what should i do?
[09:10] <bob2> gksudo -- Eterm --blah
[09:10] <Madeye> bob2  it's fresh warty installation, with dist-upgrade to breezy but i'm still on warty
[09:10] <virgule> no it does not
[09:10] <virgule> I had to xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
[09:10] <Quinthius> virgule: ah hehe, sucks
[09:11] <bob2> Madeye: then give up
[09:11] <bob2> Madeye: I already told you that would not work
[09:11] <virgule> GNOME is good
[09:11] <Quinthius> virgule: im sure there is a way in kde to load commands on logging in, or maybe even an easier way to edit your keymaps
[09:11] <bob2> Madeye: fix your sources.list to point at hoary, read wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, then try going to breezy
[09:11] <Madeye> bob2 you didnt, you said it wont be a problem to skip a hoary release
[09:11] <bob2> Madeye: that's a lie
[09:11] <bob2> Madeye: shall I dig up logs?
[09:12] <Madeye> bob2 it's not, yes but maybe later, now what do you suggest to solve this problem, reinstall warty and upgrade to hoary ?
[09:12] <bob2> Madeye: yes
[09:12] <Madeye> bob2 and when I got hoary i can later upgrade to breezy ?
[09:12] <Madeye> okay
[09:12] <Madeye> I'll do it now
[09:12] <Madeye> thank you
[09:13] <bob2> 2:47:21         Madeye |  do you think i'll face much troubles if i upgrade from warty to breezy skipping Hoary ?
[09:13] <bob2> 22:47:34           bob2 | Madeye: yes
[09:13] <bob2> 22:47:21         Madeye |  do you think i'll face much troubles if i upgrade from warty to breezy skipping Hoary ?
[09:13] <citrus_> bob2: thanks for the input    but i don't  think that works   as you can try in a term your self   gksudo -- nautilus --no-desktop --browser %U
[09:13] <bob2> 22:47:34           bob2 | Madeye: yes
[09:14] <bob2> Madeye: I warned you yesterday
[09:14] <hw> This is not the place for copying and pasting your personal conversations...
[09:14] <bit_> hi
[09:15] <bob2> hw: please stay out of things if you don't have sufficient context
[09:15] <bob2> citrus_: gksudo 'ls -a' appears to work
[09:16] <cevizoglu> Madeye: if you're going to reinstall, methinks it would be better to install hoary and then later upgrade to breezy
[09:18] <drummer101> Whats the key to uninstall something in aptitude?
[09:18] <HiddenWolf> bob2, thanks, I have a problem with my python, I've reinstalled python2.4, but to no avail
[09:18] <bob2> drummer101: _
[09:18] <citrus_> appears to work  but... does not open as root
[09:18] <SlicerDicer> Madeye: I would not be 100% excited about going to breezy if you do any gaming and use a nvidia gfx card atm as there is issues it seems across from many people via mailing lists with slow gfx performance
[09:18] <virgule> I think I got it: With gdm2, you need to add a line with "allow-user-xmodmap" in your /etc/X11/Xsession.options file to get the file ~/.Xmodmap loaded.
[09:18] <HiddenWolf> bob2, linda is complaining about not finding certain files in /usr/lib/pythong2.4/site-packages/ - and all that is in there is a README
[09:19] <bob2> HiddenWolf: there should be a lot of modules there
[09:19] <virgule> im out
[09:19] <ojpd> hello
[09:19] <ojpd> good day to all! =)
[09:19] <HiddenWolf> bob2, I figured, so how do I get them back? :P
[09:20] <ojpd> can someone please help me with ubuntu..
[09:20] <bit_> hi ojpd
[09:20] <ojpd> =,(
[09:20] <bob2> HiddenWolf: hwo did they go away?
[09:20] <nmsa_KL> hello
[09:20] <hw> ojpd
[09:20] <HiddenWolf> bob2, a misplaced rm I think. *shrug*
[09:20] <hw> ojpd: do you have a question?
[09:20] <bob2> that will be hard to recover
[09:20] <drummer101> :-\ I'm getting I/O errors when installing the Samba package...someone told me my HD might have been mounted as read only...?
[09:20] <ojpd> like... I dont know how to make dial up work with my ubuntu.. it didnt detect my modem
[09:20] <bob2> drummer101: it's more likely your disk is failing
[09:21] <drummer101> grrrr -_-
[09:21] <drummer101> this is the last HD I have
[09:21] <HiddenWolf> drummer101, does it have smart?
[09:21] <bob2> ojpd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:21] <ojpd> but i have a serial modem.. a dlink dfm-562e
[09:21] <drummer101> Yeah
[09:21] <drummer101> should I check it?
[09:21] <ojpd> i tried that...
[09:21] <HiddenWolf> drummer101, yes, please do
[09:21] <spermite> nees help .. getting this Enter 'yes' to accept this agreement, 'no' to decline: yes
[09:21] <spermite> extracting /usr/steam/hlds_l_1120_full.tgz...
[09:21] <spermite> hlds_l_1120_full.bin: error extracting payload, No such file or director
[09:21] <HiddenWolf> bob2, define hard.
[09:21] <hw> ojpd: it is relatively cheap to buy a new modem
[09:21] <bob2> ojpd: so, if you tried something that didn't work, you need to tell us in what way it failed
[09:21] <HiddenWolf> hw, but not userfriendly
[09:21] <ojpd> ok ok ok
[09:22] <bob2> spermite: this seems unrelated to ubuntu
[09:22] <drummer101> enabled...no msg in boot
[09:22] <ojpd> il copy it here
[09:22] <ojpd> so i downloaded smartlink
[09:22] <HiddenWolf> ojpd, don't copy here
[09:22] <hw> ojpd: it is relatively painless to buy a compatible modem
[09:22] <bob2> spermite: if you're having problems with some piece of proprietary software, you need to talk to the vendore
[09:22] <HiddenWolf> ojpd, use a pastebin
[09:22] <bob2> ojpd: smartlink has nothing to do with serial modems
[09:22] <CaiN_SA> spermite, 1 are you root. 2. is that file not corrupt
[09:22] <CaiN_SA> lol
[09:22] <bob2> HiddenWolf: writing a script to find out which packages put files there
[09:22] <ojpd> but i thot smartlink is d modem driver?
[09:22] <spermite> im root and no its not corrupted
[09:22] <bob2> ojpd: not if it's an atcual modem
[09:23] <CaiN_SA> this is a linux channel we can help him even if  its prepiotary
[09:23] <ojpd> so wat exactly should i do.. hehe
[09:23] <ojpd> please help
[09:23] <bob2> HiddenWolf: something like: dpkg -S /usr/lib/blahblahblah/ | awk '{print $1}' | sed -e's/:$//' | sort -u
[09:23] <bob2> ojpd: read the wiki page I pointed you at
[09:23] <bob2> ojpd: assuming it really is a serial modem
[09:23] <drummer101> HiddenWolf smart is enabled... but I recieve no errors
[09:24] <ojpd> ok ok ok... il get back at u.. hehe
[09:24] <HiddenWolf> drummer101, weird.
[09:25] <cevizoglu> drummer101: I assume fsck'ed your drive yet?
[09:25] <dzik_24> Heloo everyone
[09:26] <drummer101> sidenotes: I had Hoary running...but wouldn't detect my NIC...tried for two weeks, reinstalls thing.... loaded breezy today... recieved mad bootstrap errors....reformatted to FAT, installed hoary again, (re partitioned to ext3 /swap) and now the nic works.... everything boots fine, but I can't change permissions on any folders anywhere... samba and python recieve I/O errors on install
[09:26] <bob2> errors from debootstrap almost always mean bad hardware
[09:26] <HiddenWolf> bob2, I can't make that work.
[09:26] <dzik_24> I have simple question. What is the difernece between Ubuntu 5.04 and Preview of 5.10
[09:27] <bob2> HiddenWolf: why?
[09:27] <Knelix> Hello. :-)
[09:27] <bob2> dzik_24: one is 6 months newer and not yet stable?
[09:27] <dzik_24> so the preview of 5.10 isn't stable yet??
[09:27] <Daehlie> i am having trouble with the Ubuntu 5.10 amd64 install cd
[09:27] <bob2> dzik_24: that's what "preview" means
[09:27] <HiddenWolf> bob2, it says only python, because it's only looking for files that are there, not files that are not there.
[09:28] <bob2> Daehlie: please do file bugs
[09:28] <bob2> HiddenWolf: hence the dir name
[09:28] <bit_> drummer: reformatted to fat?
[09:28] <dzik_24> ok thanks
[09:28] <Daehlie> bob2, it a difficult bug to file, i completed the first stage of the install and when it tried to boot nothing
[09:28] <HiddenWolf> bob2: "not found"
[09:28] <drummer101> bit_ Yeah...it was a side process I couldn't get the disk to partition right...and so I just did a complete wipe
[09:29] <drummer101> and reinstall
[09:29] <bob2> HiddenWolf: it works great for me
[09:29] <bob2> ojpd: do not ever do that again
[09:30] <bob2> ojpd: you didnt actually explain which step of the howto was troubling you
[09:30] <HiddenWolf> bob2, dpkg: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ not found.
[09:30] <Daehlie> And also, has anyone ever been successful installing ubuntu onto a raid array?
[09:31] <ojpd> I dont know how to install my modem
[09:31] <bob2> HiddenWolf: does it exist?
[09:31] <HiddenWolf> bob2, yes
[09:31] <bob2> ojpd: so, stop being irritating and read the howto I told you about
[09:31] <bob2> ojpd: if one step does not make sense, tell us
[09:31] <ojpd> i tried the wiki steps.. did wat i had to do but then when i rebooted and tried typing pon nothing happened
[09:31] <bob2> ojpd: why on earth did yo ureboot?
[09:32] <ojpd> bcoz it said in the wiki i had to reboot after it?
[09:32] <ojpd> ---> Restart your computer (for the group setting to take effect). Alternately, you can test out your connection right away by typing:
[09:32] <bob2> wtf
[09:33] <ojpd> it's der in the wiki bob2
[09:33] <bit_> guys i'm gonna compile the 2.6.13 kernel on breezy.. should i go with gcc4 or use another version?
[09:33] <SlicerDicer> bit_: gcc4 seems to be what breezy is using so I dont see why not
[09:33] <bit_> thx
[09:33] <fabbione> bit_: use gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4
[09:34] <SlicerDicer> well there you have it!
[09:34] <snorks> !gcc
[09:34] <ubotu> Wish i knew, snorks
[09:34] <fabbione> there are some obscure corner cases of gcc-4.0 miscompiling the kernel
[09:34] <bob2> bit_: is the ubuntu kernel missing something?
[09:34] <bit_> no.. my notebook is poorly supported
[09:34] <fabbione> bob2: it's not the lastest git snapshot...
[09:35] <bob2> hahaha
[09:36] <SlicerDicer> snorks: thats awesome :)
[09:37] <Cryptid> hi every body
[09:38] <cevizoglu> !gcc
[09:38] <ubotu> I guess gcc is the gnu c compiler
[09:38] <crashbox> how do i enable dma for my cdrom drives?
[09:39] <Madpilot> !tell crashbox about dma
[09:39] <ojpd> bob2 how do i connect to d net
[09:39] <ojpd> please help
[09:39] <cevizoglu> oops
[09:40] <cevizoglu> !gcc
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, gcc is the GNU Compiler Collection
[09:40] <bob2> ojpd: pon
[09:41] <Cryptid> Can ne body siggest a good Video player coz my Totem Video player refuses to play ne vids it always gives a error
[09:41] <ojpd> i tried dat.. nothing happened...
[09:41] <bob2> ojpd: indeed
[09:41] <bit_> gxine
[09:41] <odd_> crash box: in a root window type "hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom/" without the quotes..d0 turns dma off
[09:41] <bob2> ojpd: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[09:41] <Madpilot> !tell Cryptid about restricted
[09:41] <Madpilot> Cryptid: what isn't totem playing for you?
[09:42] <ojpd> ok il try dat.. il be back in a bit bob2.. hold on... and thanks lots..
[09:44] <IceDC571> does linux come with support for the mac os extended filesystem?
[09:44] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: yes
[09:45] <IceDC571> :)
[09:45] <IceDC571> cevizoglu, built in or module?
[09:45] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: built-in
[09:45] <Cryptid> Madpilot totem is unable to play .mpeg files
[09:45] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: But be careful when you mount the drive, if you are prone to kernel panics you could erase the mac drive
[09:46] <locomorto> I'm using breezy (fresh install): I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package and set my xorg.conf to use fglrx; however I do not get 3D accleration
[09:46] <damnhil> what file does the command logger write to? How can I find logged messages?
[09:46] <Cryptid> i just read the restricted formats on the ubuntu site does that mean i will not be able to play .mp3 .acc .wmv. & .avi files on my computer
[09:46] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: I've been using for quite some time now and have never lost data, but it's a possibility
[09:46] <ompaul> damnhil, cd /var/log and have a look in there
[09:46] <Madpilot> Cryptid: no, it means you need to install a bunch of codecs, usually.
[09:47] <Cryptid> where can i get these codecs
[09:47] <ompaul> !tell cryptid about restricted
[09:47] <damnhil> ompaul: there are a lot there
[09:47] <IceDC571> cevizoglu, im just planning to mount my external hd (mac extended) to listen to music on it...im not really going to do any writing
[09:47] <IceDC571> but kernel panics could erase the filesystem anyway?
[09:48] <bob2> locomorto: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: if you've got the space, it would be better to copy the music over then unmount the drive
[09:48] <ompaul> damnhil, well which command are you interested in, (I only just got here this morning and won't be here for long :))
[09:48] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: yes, kp's could erase the filesystem
[09:49] <IceDC571> interesting. what about other filesystems?
[09:49] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: a kp could erase any filesystem though
[09:49] <bob2> IceDC571: basically all of them can be read fine
[09:49] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: within reason
[09:50] <Cryptid> what all formats does gstreamer-0.8 plugin support and once i install it which plyer do i use to play those files
[09:50] <fanskapet> hmm
[09:50] <cevizoglu> IceDC571: if you never kp your system I wouldn't worry about it
[09:50] <IceDC571> yeah thats what i was thinking
[09:51] <Madpilot> Cryptid: they all work with Totem - and probably other players, but certainly with Totem
[09:51] <IceDC571> i would only power up my external hd when the system is up, and pretty much i never had a kp when the gnome desktop is up
[09:52] <bob2> if you ever get a kernel panic that's not due to very broken hardware, please file a bug
[09:52] <IceDC571> i just switched, i got an ibook.. i love it :)
[09:53] <bob2> only problem with ibooks is the wireless card
[09:53] <IceDC571> whats wrong with the wireless card?
[09:53] <IceDC571> actually i still love my x86 i just hate microsoft so very much
[09:53] <IceDC571> now i'm ditching their filesystem too
[09:54] <nalioth> IceDC571: hear! hear!
[09:54] <bob2> airport extreme does not work under linux at all
[09:55] <nalioth> bob2: the 'new' ibooks
[09:55] <bob2> which is a large shame
[09:55] <bob2> nalioth: indeed
[09:55] <bob2> where
[09:55] <bob2> "new" is "less than 20 months old"
[09:55] <IceDC571> well.. osx isnt bad, i guess i'll keep ubuntu on my x86
[09:56] <nalioth> bob2: yes, im searching for an "ubuntu-out-of-the-box" supported USB wifi stick for mine
[09:56] <IceDC571> after all i'm still running on unix
[09:56] <Cryptid> Madpilot is it advisible to download Gstream metapack plugins or Totem-Xine
[09:56] <bob2> nalioth: netgear ma-111
[09:56] <thoreauputic> IceDC571: you can dual boot
[09:56] <bob2> as much as any crappy usb wireless thing works out of the box
[09:56] <SlicerDicer> omg bob2... if you run glxgears -iacknowlegethatthistoolisnotabenchmark it prints the fps lol
[09:56] <IceDC571> actually i dont really want to dual boot if wireless wont work
[09:56] <bob2> yes, I know
[09:56] <bob2> I told people this earlier
[09:56] <IceDC571> nalioth, you got a mac?
[09:57] <Madpilot> Cryptid: I use the gstreamer stuff myself, it works. not sure what the difference is, TBH...
[09:57] <SlicerDicer> bob2: that is actually rather amusing
[09:57] <bob2> SlicerDicer: yes, it was added to stop people misusing it
[09:58] <nalioth> IceDC571: a couple
[09:58] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I never compare systems with it I only use it to get a aproxx amount such as this one gets about 4000 if glxgears says that I know its working right my other one gets 6800 abouts if it hits that good... my mythtv one hits 500 if it hits 300 I am happy lol etc and so on
[09:58] <IceDC571> ugh.. why the hell did i ever buy this x-fi card hoping they would have linux drivers
[09:58] <andy_> hey all
[09:58] <IceDC571> i want to switch to m-audio
[09:58] <Cryptid> Is XMMS a GStream player
[09:59] <CaiN_SA>  what do you guys preffer : xmms or amarok ?
[09:59] <IceDC571> xmms
[09:59] <abhayks> I am using breezy with latest updates, however, cannot login to gnome session
[09:59] <andy_> umm i finally managed to get my internet working. But i have one small problem (small but extremly annoying) ... I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 .. now for some reason, the mouse is EXTREMELY slow... even if i up the sensitivity. I believe it is an ALPS touchpad... can anybody help me.... (i hav to do about 8 strokes horizontally to move accross the desktop.. )
[09:59] <IceDC571> beep media player is nice
[09:59] <andy_> can anybody PLEASE help me
[09:59] <IceDC571> quod libet is nice too
[09:59] <IceDC571> banshee is nice too
[09:59] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, depends on the phase of the moon times the hour of the day by the distance from the mouse
[10:00] <CaiN_SA> :/
[10:00] <crashbox> when starting k3b, i get this, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2102
[10:00] <CaiN_SA> sarcasm doesnt work for me
[10:00] <crashbox> how can i fix this?
[10:00] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i can force a program to start fullscreen?
[10:00] <bitm> andy_ : what's the prob
[10:00] <Madpilot> CaiN_SA: Totem ;)
[10:00] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, it was more irony, they are just front ends for codecs and then one gets on with which ever one is using
[10:00] <andy_> my mouse is VERY SLOW and does not respond when i change the sensitivity or accelleration
[10:01] <IceDC571> quod libet is one of the only gapless players for linux... and no amarok doesnt count, you could do gapless with xmms but i ran into problems
[10:01] <abhayks> I get a msg " The files that contain your preference settings are currently in use"
[10:01] <abhayks> When I click "Continue" I get an error
[10:01] <abhayks> "Xml:coulnd not resolve /usr/share/gconf/local.mandatory defined in the path
[10:01] <abhayks> file
[10:01] <abhayks> /etc/gconf/2/path Could not create the local.mandatory file :: Permission denied"
[10:01] <andy_> it is an ALPS touchpad
[10:01] <brownie17> andy_ is i jumpy? or smooth?
[10:01] <andy_> its smooth
[10:01] <andy_> but slow
[10:01] <andy_> :(
[10:01] <brownie17> andy_, is it a ball mouse?
[10:01] <andy_> no its a touchpad.. on a dell laptop
[10:02] <brownie17> andy_, oh, well try attaching a USB mouse
[10:02] <CaiN_SA> Madpilot, totem doesnt work for me, this aint a gnome system + totem more for video
[10:02] <andy_> yeah but i cant carry a usb mouse everywhere lol
[10:02] <brownie17> cna somebody tell me how to force a program to start fullscreen?
[10:02] <andy_> it works fine with a usb mouse though
[10:02] <abhayks> any help on breezy
[10:02] <brownie17> andy_, oh well. apart from that i don't know
[10:03] <brownie17> madpilot: you think you can help me?
[10:03] <andy_> okay thanks anyway
[10:03] <Madpilot> CaiN_SA: totem plays music files; it even does those silly visualizations that people like for some reason...
[10:03] <andy_> any other ides anybody plz?
[10:03] <Madpilot> CaiN_SA: but I use Muine for albums
[10:03] <Madpilot> brownie17: what's up?
[10:04] <ximian> magyarul valaki beszl itt?
[10:04] <CaiN_SA> maddler, ill check muine
[10:04] <brownie17> Madpilot, well i want to know how i can force a program to start fullscreen. it is a game i dwonloaded out of suynaptic and it is a real time strategy, wheich means it is really annoying to scrool around if the ouse goes off the side!
[10:04] <Madpilot> brownie17: not sure about that, sorry...
[10:04] <brownie17> CaiN_SA, did you mean to send that to Madpilot ?
[10:04] <brownie17> Madpilot, ok
[10:05] <brownie17> nalioth: feel like giving me a hand with something?
[10:05] <andy_> brownie i believe there is a synaptics driver for the touchpad
[10:05] <Luna-Tick> Um.... guys.... my kernel just updated itself and now I can't even boot...
[10:06] <brownie17> andy_, why dont you try that?
[10:06] <Luna-Tick> 'Kernel Panic'
[10:06] <andy_> except im not sure how to install it... (im new to linux)
[10:06] <andy_> i have no clue how to install it
[10:07] <andy_> it says to type "make"
[10:07] <brownie17> andy_, well you just go into synaptic, and click the "search" button. type in what you want and it will search through some 8,000 packages until it gets some results. you look through those and find it, then right click on the box and click "mark for installation" then click the "apply" button next to the "search" buitton
[10:07] <Luna-Tick> Anyone have a suggestion to get back in?
[10:08] <brownie17> andy_, if you get it through synaptic, you shouldn't have to "make" it, it should install itself
[10:08] <odd_> andy_:yup a search for "touchpad" brings up several choices
[10:08] <andy_> nah but this is called synaptics-0.14.3 its like a tar file or something
[10:09] <andy_> okay i just tried to search "touchpad"
[10:09] <andy_> i got nothing
[10:09] <andy_> i have a feeling im missing some packages :(
[10:09] <odd_> did you look in name+description?
[10:09] <andy_> would they be on the cd?
[10:10] <brownie17> andy_, oh ok, i get it. synaptic is the company that make the touch pad, not the synaptic packet manager. well i'm no good at compiling, all i know is. you need to right click the desktop and open a terminal, then use "cd <directory> to get to whereever you saved the file" (after you extracted it from the tar.gz) then once you are in that directroy, type "make"
[10:10] <Mark_Ryan> I was going to ask some banal newbie questions about Ubuntu, but I'll read the FAQ first.
[10:11] <Mark_Ryan> brownie17, your message ended at 'type "make"'.
[10:11] <brownie17> andy_, if you sure you're missing some then you might need to try adding more repositories. they are like servers that synaptic packet manager searches for packets.
[10:11] <Madpilot> Mark_Ryan: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- good place to start...
[10:11] <brownie17> !tell andy_ about repos
[10:11] <crashbox> K3B and nero say i do not have write access to my cdr and dvd burner.  how can i enable write access to these devices?
[10:11] <Mark_Ryan> thank you, Madpilot :)
[10:11] <brownie17> Mark_Ryan, yes. that is all he wanted me to tell him
[10:11] <bob2> crashbox: run them under sudo
[10:12] <crashbox> hmmm
[10:12] <Mark_Ryan> brownie17, I'm just used to people in channel pasting stuff and not realising it's been cropped :)
[10:12] <brownie17> bob2: can you give me a hand with something, i need to run a program fullscreen, but there are no option in the program. what option can i add to the command to force it to run fullscreen
[10:13] <crashbox> bob2, is there a way to give my regular write access to these devices withough using sudo
[10:13] <andy_> ??
[10:13] <andy_> nope not on the CD
[10:13] <andy_> :(
[10:13] <andy_> just tried
[10:13] <brownie17> Mark_Ryan, no prob :)
[10:13] <andy_> ill try the 5.04 dvd
[10:13] <bob2> crashbox: just use sudo
[10:13] <crashbox> my regular user*
[10:13] <andy_> nope nothing on the DVD either :(
[10:13] <bob2> brownie17: that's entirely application-specific
[10:14] <Madpilot> andy_: the main repos are out on the web, that's where Synaptic needs to look
[10:14] <brownie17> bob2: ok. damnit. well... do you know the game stratagus?
[10:14] <ali_> hi i am trying to compile php4 from source i am getting following error
[10:14] <bob2> no
[10:14] <bob2> ali_: please don't
[10:14] <bob2> ali_: unless you have a very good reason
[10:14] <ali_> configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under yes
[10:14] <andy_> Madpilot, so what do i do?
[10:15] <ali_> i think it is
[10:15] <bob2> ali_: why do you think you need to compile it?
[10:15] <crashbox> bob2, how do i get this to work from the menu?
[10:15] <ali_> because i have already installed mysql
[10:15] <ali_> because i am installing it (php) as an apache module
[10:15] <bob2> crashbox: run it as "gksudo k3b"
[10:15] <AzMoo> ali_, what configure string are you using for mysql?
[10:15] <AzMoo> err
[10:15] <bob2> ali_: and ubuntu already includes that module
[10:15] <AzMoo> the mysql part of php
[10:15] <bob2> ali_: install libapache2-mod-php4
[10:16] <Madpilot> andy_: do you have a net connection in ubuntu?
[10:16] <andy_> yeah
[10:16] <ali_> ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs2=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs
[10:16] <andy_> its a bit dodgy though
[10:16] <andy_> but its working
[10:16] <andy_> im using it now
[10:16] <bob2> ali_: you do not need to compile it
[10:16] <andy_> it drops every now and then
[10:16] <bob2> ali_: install the libapache2-mod-php4 package
[10:16] <andy_> but its usable i think
[10:16] <AzMoo> bob2, you don't need to. Doesn't mean you can't.
[10:16] <Madpilot> andy_: Synaptic supports d/l resumption, I think
[10:16] <SLSneak> Hellohello! I have a problem with gnome in ubuntu. I get to the login prompt, and I can enter my uname and pw, but after that the screen just goes dark grey and nothing happens. It used to start nautilus and all that, but no longer...
[10:16] <crashbox> bob2, nice....... thanks
[10:17] <andy_> which means :S?... im sorry im really new to linux.. this is the first time i actually use it :S
[10:17] <CaiN_SA> you are using debian
[10:17] <bob2> AzMoo: ali_ clearly is going to have a large amount of unneceesary trouble if he/she tries
[10:17] <andy_> or that^ lol
[10:17] <CaiN_SA> so just apt get it if you want it
[10:17] <ali_> bob2 libapache2-mod-php4 is already installed
[10:17] <Madpilot> andy_: it means that if your net connection drops, Synaptic will pick up where it left off when the connection comes back
[10:17] <andy_> ahh okay
[10:17] <andy_> so how can i get it?
[10:17] <andy_> i think i just need the ALPS touchpad driver
[10:17] <bob2> ali_: then you're all set
[10:17] <bob2> ali_: is your real quest192.168.22.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.22.160
[10:17] <AzMoo> ali_, then it should be fine.
[10:17] <andy_> i think thats why my mouse isnt working properly and its so slow
[10:17] <Madpilot> !tell andy_ about synaptic
[10:17] <bob2> 10.0.0.0/8 dev hesperos  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.10.0.1
[10:17] <bob2> default via 192.168.22.50 dev eth0
[10:18] <bob2> bah
[10:18] <ali_> AzMoo it is not fine then i just came to ask for help
[10:18] <bob2> ali_: what is not working?
[10:18] <ali_> php4
[10:18] <ali_> php5
[10:18] <ali_> php5.0.5
[10:18] <bob2> stop it
[10:19] <Madpilot> !lamp
[10:19] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:19] <AzMoo> Well, obviously the php4 package isn't going to work for php5
[10:19] <bob2> ali_: you installed the package I suggested; in what way does it not work?
[10:19] <Madpilot> ali_: see ubotu ^^^
[10:19] <ali_> configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under yes.
[10:19] <ali_> Note that the MySQL client library is not bundled anymore.
[10:19] <ali_> i am getting this error
[10:19] <bob2> ali_: no, that is not what I'm talking about
[10:19] <bob2> ali_: you installed the php4 apache2 module already
[10:20] <bob2> ali_: what happens when yo utry to access a php page?
[10:20] <ali_> yes
[10:20] <ali_> i never tried
[10:20] <ali_> because i am getting this error
[10:20] <ali_> i thought still it is not installed bob2
[10:20] <vladuz976> anybody using evidence here?
[10:20] <bob2> ali_: dude, stop it
[10:20] <AzMoo> ali_, you don't need to compile php if you're installing the packages
[10:20] <bob2> ali_: install that package, you do not need to compile *anything*
[10:20] <damnhil> how do I run a window program after I do su - ?
[10:20] <ali_> ok bob2
[10:21] <bob2> damnhil: you don't, you use "sudo" instead
[10:23] <ompaul> !tell damnhil about root
[10:23] <SLSneak> Also, I get a HDIO_DRIVE_CMD or something like that error. Could it be related?
[10:23] <Madpilot> good night, all
[10:23] <SLSneak> night
[10:23] <odd_> nighters madpilot
[10:25] <Luna-Tick> has anyone else updated to the new kernel image in hoary?
[10:25] <odd_> luna : no sorry
[10:26] <Luna-Tick> Because it has left me unbootable in kernel panic
[10:26] <Luna-Tick> Which is a real issue given that it is a standard update...
[10:27] <Luna-Tick> Who else will it kill... I am on a Dothan processor, anyone heard any issues?
[10:27] <Quinthius> what would you all suggest for cd writing? (data and audio)... gnomebaker, k3b, nautilus, are they all pretty similar or is one obviously much better?
[10:27] <Draucon> cler
[10:27] <bob2> for data, there's little need to use anything aside from nautilus
[10:27] <AzMoo> Quinthius, I like gnomebaker
[10:27] <odd_> Quinthius : I am happy with K3b
[10:27] <bob2> for audio, I like mp3burn, which, despite the name, burns my FLAC files happily
[10:28] <hillbillytech> K3b is the best I have used.
[10:28] <odd_> there you go 2 votes for k3b
[10:28] <Quinthius> hehe
[10:28] <odd_> heh
[10:28] <bob2> k3b is pretty heavy for what it does
[10:29] <bob2> in the common case, anyway
[10:29] <Digis> gnomebaker is not bad either, even It is a little bit buggy :)
[10:29] <vladuz976> how do i search installed *.deb packages?
[10:29] <Quinthius> have seen k3b mentioned elsewhere too, but not too excited about having to use kde stuff
[10:29] <vladuz976> if i don't know the exact name
[10:29] <bob2> vladuz976: for what?
[10:29] <SLSneak> bah, I'll just mess with it for a while then.... Cyas!
[10:29] <odd_> u think that all have a "gotcha" or two
[10:29] <Digis> vladuz976, dpkg -l | grep my_package
[10:29] <Luna-Tick> Right... well I guess that I will go off and try and fix it...
[10:29] <AzMoo> vladuz976, dpkg -l
[10:29] <vladuz976> bob2, i wanna get rid of evidence
[10:29] <Quinthius> what about graveman?
[10:29] <Luna-Tick> but thanks.
[10:30] <Luna-Tick> Ciao
[10:30] <bob2> vladuz976: 'dpkg -l | grep evidence' will help you find the name then
[10:30] <odd_> cya
[10:30] <Digis> vladuz976, it is called evince :)
[10:30] <vladuz976> bob2, doesn't
[10:30] <vladuz976> Digis, no evidence
[10:30] <Digis> apt-cache show evidence
[10:30] <Digis> W: Unable to locate package evidence
[10:30] <bob2> yes, it's not in ubuntu
[10:30] <bob2> it's part of e17
[10:30] <russ[] > anyone wanna tell my why I can't get sound to work in et with ts open (i have a sb live card)
[10:30] <Digis> oh
[10:31] <vladuz976> Digis, no i didn't install with apt
[10:31] <bob2> vladuz976: then it's not installed
[10:31] <vladuz976> bob2, it is unless i am really out of my mind
[10:31] <ompaul> evince - Document (postscript, pdf) viewer
[10:31] <bob2> dudes, evince != evidence
[10:32] <odd_> yep is called evince not evidence
[10:32] <vladuz976> odd_, no way, i just looked on sourceforge
[10:32] <bob2> come on folks
[10:32] <bob2> they're two different pieces of software
[10:32] <odd_> vlad : okay, i have evince, but no evidence
[10:33] <AzMoo> yeah, evidence is the enlightenment thing, isn't it?
[10:33] <vladuz976> AzMoo, exactly
[10:33] <AzMoo> vladuz976, how did you install it? Through apt-get ?
[10:34] <fek> moin
[10:34] <thoreauputic> -------> vladuz976 bob2, i wanna get rid of evidence    <---- I thought he had something he wanted to hide :)
[10:34] <vladuz976> AzMoo, no .deb from sourceforge then dpkg -i
[10:34] <thoreauputic> :D
[10:34] <Quinthius> thoreauputic: me too
[10:35] <vladuz976> thoreauputic, yeah funny names they have for those thing
[10:35] <vladuz976> *things
[10:35] <thoreauputic> indeed
[10:37] <odd_> ahhh that explains why i couldn't find any evidence too
[10:37] <andy_> anyone know how i can stop my connection from dopping out? I have an ethernet cable connected to a HUB.. and the hub to a cable modem.. and it drops out every 40 seconds
[10:37] <andy_> or so
[10:37] <andy_> it's extremely annoying
[10:37] <odd_> evince is a pdf reader
[10:37] <andy_> i look at my ethernet card and the lights turn off completely, and then turn back on
[10:38] <bob2> andy_: look at dmesg
[10:38] <andy_> dmesg?
[10:38] <andy_> whats that :S
[10:38] <thoreauputic> andy_: type it in a terminal to see :)
[10:39] <bob2> a command to run...
[10:39] <andy_> ok just tried it lol
[10:39] <andy_> that was massive
[10:39] <andy_> so what do i do with this?
[10:39] <bob2> read it
[10:39] <bob2> and look for the bits where it says your NIC is exploding
[10:39] <AzMoo> It's a log of what your kernel is doing
[10:39] <andy_> ah yeah
[10:39] <andy_> but i dont understand it :S
[10:39] <andy_> it says stuff linke Link is down
[10:39] <andy_> Link us up at 10mbps, half duplex
[10:40] <bob2> there you go
[10:40] <aftertaf> dmesg shows what things have been dropped...
[10:40] <andy_> yeah
[10:40] <andy_> but why is it dropping?
[10:40] <andy_> i've never experienced this before
[10:40] <andy_> with any other operating system
[10:40] <aftertaf> just done it and had a lot of eth0 IN, showing broadcast addr dropped
[10:40] <andy_> i dont understand why the connection link goes "down"
[10:41] <andy_> and my ethernet just turns off completely
[10:41] <andy_> and then turns back on again
[10:41] <vladuz976> what is gonna diffent in breezy next month?
[10:41] <cevizoglu|afk> andy: try finishing your sentence before you hit enter
[10:41] <aftertaf> bob2:  could that (that==dmesg) help me find why my internet connection at home drops out too (PPPoA) ?
[10:42] <AzMoo> aftertaf, check your ppp logs for that
[10:42] <aftertaf> i kept having to unplug the qdsl modem, replug it  and restart hotplug subsystem...
[10:42] <odd_> wb cevizoglu
[10:42] <andy_> i'd love to know why mine does it.. its so annoying almost annoying as my mouse that isnt working.. (trackpad)
[10:42] <russ[] > anyone wanna tell my why I can't get sound to work in et with ts open (i have a sb live card)
[10:42] <aftertaf> AzMoo:  ok... (silly Qu, willthat be in /var somewhere?)
[10:42] <thoreauputic> russ[] : try ' killall esd ' then run it again
[10:43] <andy_> would it make a difference if i changed it from DHCP to StaticIP?
[10:44] <Cryptid> is Azureus available for ubuntu
[10:44] <bob2> aftertaf: perhaps, but that's more likely to be the fact usb modems are mostly crap
[10:44] <fhl0e> i'm trying to install gtk-sharp and sharp2.. i get error unresolvable dependencies.. but not specified, all packages just says wont be installed.. Any ideas?
[10:44] <Cryptid> is Azureus available for ubuntu
[10:44] <aftertaf> bob2:   :D thx dude ;) i HAD gathered....
[10:44] <andy_> guys come on.. as if nobody has any idea why my network connection keeps dropping
[10:45] <bob2> fhl0e: that means you're using packages from outside ubuntu
[10:45] <bob2> andy_: dude, stop being rude to strangers who have been trying to help you
[10:45] <bob2> that's simply obnoxious
[10:45] <ompaul> andy_, could it be that you have some wiring issues that no other operating system told you about?
[10:45] <andy_> :S
[10:45] <odd_> andy_ : it could be an IP conflict with the cable net, it would keep sending resets to your modem
[10:45] <AzMoo> Cryptid, yes
[10:45] <julo> hi !
[10:45] <andy_> i actually wasnt being rude...
[10:46] <andy_> i meant that in a nice way
[10:46] <andy_> lol
[10:46] <cevizoglu> andy: I had a problem like yours before my nic died
[10:46] <andy_> umm well i did notice that the brown cable on my ethernet cable is cut
[10:46] <russ[] > thoreauputic: same thing
[10:46] <andy_> but i asked the IT guy at my school and he said that the brown cable isnt being used anyway, its for future development
[10:46] <andy_> and windows doesnt have a single problem with it
[10:46] <thoreauputic> russ[] : hmm - ah well it was worth a try...
[10:46] <andy_> could it be that "ubuntu" uses this brown cable?
[10:46] <fhl0e> bob2, but wich repositories do I need for gtk?? right now i'm using ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[10:46] <russ[] > thoreauputic: =(
[10:47] <xtr8> can i ask somebody a thing about the sound in ubuntu
[10:47] <AzMoo> andy_, nope, all physical networking is the same
[10:47] <ompaul> andy_, please   put   all   the   words    in   one    line    so that      you  are finished    giving information          before someone starts to answer your comments
[10:47] <Cryptid> AzMoo is it the under the GTK category on the official Site
[10:47] <andy_> okay soo then its not the network cable
[10:47] <andy_> hmm what could it be
[10:47] <julo> I had a strange experience with Ubuntu: I was running breezy, and went a week away. When I came back, I started my laptop, and all was working fine. Then, after a while, I saw that my home partition (hda5) had been remounted in ro mode. Then, I saw that the same happened to hda1 (/). I rebooted, and it didn't want to start (fsck couldn't repair hda1).
[10:48] <andy_> ompaul, sorry ill do that from now on.
[10:48] <julo> So, I re-installed hoary, and got the same problems on hda1.
[10:48] <AzMoo> Cryptid, dunno. I can see it in synaptic though.
[10:48] <xtr8> ive got the via82xx chipset and the standard sounds in ubuntu work but try to play a audiocd or a oggfile and it does give a error
[10:48] <Cryptid> AzMoo, oh is it
[10:48] <julo> Then, I used a livecd to fsck both hda1 and hda5, and "fixed" the problems. But they remained...
[10:48] <Cryptid> let me check
[10:48] <andy_> odd_,  if it does have something to do with the IPS and it keeps resetting do you have any idea how i can fix this?
[10:49] <julo> The day after, all was fixed, without me doing anything...
[10:49] <AzMoo> Cryptid, it's probably in the universe repository
[10:49] <julo> (Except upgrade to breezy again.)
[10:49] <ompaul> andy_, please do this, get a loan of a nic or put a new one in the box if the problem goes away then it is the nic - if it does not then check the wiring
[10:49] <andy_> ompaul, its a laptop
[10:50] <andy_> Dell Inspiron 6000
[10:50] <odd_> andy_ : can you run your cable direct to the pc bypassing the hub and see if the problem stops?
[10:50] <andy_> odd_, ill try i tnow
[10:50] <andy_> *try it now
[10:50] <bob2> fhl0e: then complain to the backport monkeys
[10:50] <ompaul> andy_, you could try to get a loan of a *supported* pci card and nic and try that
[10:50] <fhl0e> bob2: ok, there is no other repositories I can use?
[10:50] <Cryptid> AzMoo, i tried searching in All categoried but didnt find it i also updated my repository
[10:51] <bob2> fhl0e: mono is in ubuntu itself
[10:51] <bob2> fhl0e: perhaps you should explain wtf you're using those repositories to begin with
[10:51] <onkarshinde> Cryptid: What are you searching for?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: you haven't done something creative like deleting/commenting out your other repos, have you?
[10:51] <xtr8> can someone help me: ive got the via82xx chipset and the standard sounds in ubuntu work but try to play a audiocd or a oggfile and it does give a error. im working in ubuntu right now
[10:52] <twibbler> xtr8: I think you may need to change your soundto alsa instead of esd...
[10:53] <Harr___> Hi all!
[10:53] <odd_> hello harr
[10:53] <onkarshinde> xtr8: Can you specify error? Which player are you using?
[10:53] <xtr8> i hve to tell im a n00b in ubuntu but can u explain me how i doe that
[10:53] <AzMoo> Cryptid, have you added the universe and multiverse repository's?
[10:54] <onkarshinde> xtr8: Please specify error and music player you are sing.
[10:54] <Harr___> Could someone help me with gnome? I am new with Ubuntu, and I have used only KDE earlier
[10:54] <xtr8> all players give the same error
[10:54] <Cryptid> AzMoo, thanx it worked
[10:54] <fhl0e> bob2, i'm very new to linux and fiddled with wine and commented out some, and erased some repros (misstake). And mirrormax i found on google..
[10:54] <samu2> why does grep say "the -P option is not supported" ?
[10:54] <onkarshinde> xtr8: But what is error?
[10:54] <samu2> im sure it worked the other day
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !tell fhl0e about repos
[10:54] <xtr8> onkarshinde: gstreamen???? something like that
[10:54] <twibbler> xtr8: from command line run gstreamer-preferencs and change the esd to alsa.....
[10:55] <onkarshinde> xtr8: Type this command in terminal and tell me output. 'dpkg --list gstreamer'        (without quotes)
[10:55] <Harr___> I think the first question is easy. How to add shortcuts to the "Applications"-menu in Gnome?
[10:56] <onkarshinde> Harr___: For that you will need a package called smeg which is a Menu editor
[10:56] <xtr8> xtr8@burocomputer:~$ gstreamer-preferencs
[10:56] <xtr8> bash: gstreamer-preferencs: command not found
[10:56] <xtr8> xtr8@burocomputer:~$ gstreamer-preferences
[10:56] <xtr8> bash: gstreamer-preferences: command not found
[10:56] <xtr8> srry for the lines
[10:56] <russ[] > anyone wanna tell my why I can't get sound to work in et with ts open (i have a sb live card)
[10:57] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, ill try them..
[10:57] <thoreauputic> xtr8: gstreamer-properties
[10:57] <twibbler> xtra8: sudo gstreamer-preferences
[10:57] <twibbler> thank you thoreauputic its still early ...
[10:57] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: I'm willing to bet your sources list is wrecked - use the recommended list
[10:57] <spiral> hi
[10:57] <xtr8> i get a gui
[10:58] <andy_> okay
[10:58] <andy_> i realised
[10:58] <andy_> the problem was indeed with the network cable
[10:58] <andy_> so it appears to be working okay now
[10:58] <aftertaf> ahaa ;)
[10:58] <Harr___> thanks a lot.. fine program!
[10:58] <odd_> andy_ : good show
[10:59] <andy_> thanks everyone, ummm..... sorry again but i have one very very last problem... how on earth can i get my trackpad to work.... because my mouse is EXTREMELY slow
[10:59] <andy_> sorry for pestering you all
[11:00] <andy_> i tried to search "trackpad" in the synaptic package manger, but there is nothing there
[11:00] <Harr___> onkarshinde: thanks
[11:00] <odd_> Anndy_ : try a search of name+description in synaptic
[11:00] <andy_> i also tried to search "alps"
[11:00] <aftertaf> andy_:  could be an X config needs changing.
[11:00] <andy_> whats that :| lol, excuse my extreme ignorence
[11:01] <andy_> wait let me describe the problem, so you guys get more of an idea
[11:01] <andy_> the mouse is working. Its not laggy or anything like that, the problem is.. that the "tracking" of the mouse (so when i move it.. its EXTREMELY slow), like for me to move accross the desktop i need to move my finger 5 or 6 times accross the pad....
[11:01] <nalioth> howdy thoreauputic
[11:01] <andy_> Also; it does not respond to the sensitivity or acceleration controls
[11:02] <thoreauputic> hi nalioth :)
[11:02] <onkarshinde> andy_: Excuse my ignorance, is trackpad same as touch pad?
[11:02] <andy_> yup the same
[11:02] <onkarshinde> andy_: laptop model name and number please.
[11:02] <andy_> Dell Inspiron 6000
[11:03] <andy_> ALPS trackpad
[11:03] <HrdwrBoB> onkarshinde: yes they pretty much both suck
[11:03] <xtr8> ehh ive got a dutch translation so it is called difrent here but global translation ist pipeline (wtf do i have to fill in there
[11:03] <aftertaf> HrdwrBoB:  Retinal Sensors are better... just goes where U look ;)
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> aftertaf: sometimes I look elsewhere, I use the trackpoint on my laptop
[11:04] <Harr___> A new question: I am using this way to move between file manager and terminal: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Open%20terminal/Open%20Terminal%20Here . Is it possible to get same action to the filemanager toolbar?
[11:05] <andy_> onkarshinde, its very strange because when i use the "livecd" ... the trackpad/touchpad works fine
[11:05] <andy_> but now its almost as if it isn't being detected at all.
[11:06] <onkarshinde> I just checked http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html and there is no mention of any problem with trackpad at all.
[11:06] <andy_> hmm
[11:06] <andy_> im not sure why mine isnt working
[11:06] <andy_> i remember reading on a form that an inspiron 9100 user had a problem with their trackpad
[11:06] <andy_> is there anyway i can maybe copy the drivers off the LIVECD?
[11:07] <andy_> or DVD
[11:07] <HrdwrBoB> Harr___: I don't believe so, it would be nice though
[11:07] <odd_> andy_ : do a search for touchpad useing description+name there a several listed under that
[11:07] <HrdwrBoB> andy_: save the Xorg.0.log off the livecd
[11:07] <HrdwrBoB> and your system
[11:07] <bob2> fhl0e: future reference: don't put random untrusted repositores in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <HrdwrBoB> compare them
[11:07] <bob2> fhl0e: anyone who runs a repository you tell apt about has root access to your machine
[11:07] <onkarshinde> andy_: check if you have xorg-driver-synaptics installed
[11:07] <andy_> odd_, do you mean in the synaptics package manager?
[11:07] <andy_> onkarshinde, how can i check that?
[11:08] <aftertaf> bob2:  really???
[11:08] <andy_> HrdwrBoB, what do i do ater i save it?
[11:08] <odd_> andy_ yes in synaptic
[11:08] <andy_> odd_, i've tried that.. nothing appears!
[11:08] <bob2> aftertaf: of course
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> andy_: compare it with the Xorg.0.log in your system
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> m
[11:08] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: by dfinition - you are installing as root
[11:08] <Harr___> HrdwrBoB: You think that's the best way to do that action?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> *definition
[11:08] <bob2> aftertaf: all the packages they have get installed as root
[11:08] <andy_> hmm okay well wait, how come u guys can see several entries in synaptic for the trackpad but i can't?
[11:09] <aftertaf> bob2:  thoreauputic: true..... and so, if an untrusted package is there.........
[11:09] <onkarshinde> andy_: try this simple command 'dpkg --list xorg-driver-synaptics' and see if it states any version.
[11:09] <HrdwrBoB> Harr___: I agree that a button would be nice, but I'm not sure it could be easily done
[11:09] <bob2> aftertaf: and they can put any package they like in there; say, libc6, so it will get installed next time you run apt
[11:09] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: exactly
[11:10] <andy_> i got Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org Sever
[11:10] <Harr___> HrdwrBoB: Ok- Is that script the only way available to get the action?
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> Harr___: yes
[11:10] <Harr___> HrdwrBoB: thanks a lot
[11:10] <andy_> but it also says status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpack/failed-config/half-installed
[11:10] <andy_> what does that mean?
[11:11] <onkarshinde> andy_: Ignore that. Does it state any version?
[11:11] <andy_> Version 0.14.3-lubuntu
[11:11] <andy_> and the name is: xorg-driver-sy
[11:12] <bob2> andy_: that's explaining what the letters next to the packahe names mean
[11:12] <vladuz976> how do i get a directory out of my path?
[11:12] <bob2> look at the little ascii art arrow
[11:12] <andy_> ah okay
[11:12] <Harr___> Please take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64604 . We have a problem. Do you someone have some ideas?
[11:12] <andy_> lol.. okay so that means i have the driver yes?, but its not working..?
[11:13] <onkarshinde> andy_: This is the compatibility list of xorg-driver-synaptics http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/compatibility.txt But it doen't mention your Laptop model.
[11:14] <andy_> hmm okay well i have this xorg.conf from another Dell 9300 user not (6000) but he also has a touchpad/trackpad
[11:14] <andy_> and had problems using it.. i think that xorg.conf fixed it
[11:14] <andy_> any ideas how i can load it?
[11:14] <andy_> or what this does?
[11:15] <evader> hi
[11:15] <onkarshinde> andy_: Its really been long time since I played with xorg.conf. So don't ask me
[11:15] <andy_> damn.. okay... well just reading a little more on this situation on the ubuntu forum.. somebody mentions upgrading to the 2.6.12.2 kernel
[11:16] <andy_> im currently using breezy, should i upgrade? if so how...
[11:16] <bob2> no
[11:16] <bob2> if it doesn't work, file a bug
[11:16] <bob2> right now
[11:16] <andy_> lol yes, but filing a bug report wont get it working :(
[11:16] <bob2> er
[11:16] <andy_> its just SO frustrating the amount of times i have to move my finger across the pad to open like "Applications"
[11:16] <bob2> except that if it gets fixed it will be, uh, fixed
[11:17] <onkarshinde> andy_: Already you are using a not so stable release. You should probably using hoary. Breezy isn't final yet.
[11:17] <andy_> yeah, but chances are of it being fixed are unlikely i doubt they would respond to single user
[11:17] <bob2> andy_: no, that's not how it works
[11:17] <andy_> onkarshinde, i tried to install hoary, and what happend was... it got to 6% and gave me some error (i was using the DVD)
[11:17] <bob2> then the dvd was probably broken
[11:18] <bob2> if you want it fixed, file a bug
[11:18] <bob2> now
[11:18] <bob2> the point of using breezy now is to find bugs
[11:18] <thoreauputic> andy_: how do you think stuff gets fixed? Users giving bug reports...
[11:18] <andy_> okay ill file a bug report
[11:18] <andy_> bob2, i downloaded the DVD twice
[11:18] <bob2> andy_: did you check that it burnt correctly?
[11:18] <bob2> and downloading it more than once is silly
[11:19] <andy_> well the thing is nero said something about correcting or ignoring the block size when i loaded the image
[11:19] <andy_> i just ignored it.... because i wasnt sure if this was a standard thing
[11:19] <andy_> or if it was really the problem (i got this message with both downloads)
[11:19] <candlelight> #ubuntu is becoming more like #debian
[11:19] <bob2> then you should have just checked to begin with
[11:19] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, i'll try the recommended list..
[11:19] <aftertaf> andy_:  because of your network cable not working maybe....?
[11:19] <onkarshinde> andy_: Nero sucks
[11:19] <fhl0e> bob2, i'll keep that in mind.. no more untrusted..
[11:19] <andy_> aftertaf, i doubt it... all other things i download work fine!
[11:20] <onkarshinde> candlelight: What do you mean by it?
[11:20] <PlutoPrime> what is the name of the little program that sits like a transparent background and can't be setup to tail log files
[11:20] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: right - and don't forget to run reload/update :)
[11:20] <Harr___> andy; Have you had problems with other DVD' s
[11:20] <fhl0e> yepp
[11:20] <andy_> Harr___, never
[11:20] <andy_> onkarshinde, i like nero :$
[11:20] <russ[] > would someone mind helping me get teamspeak and et to work on my sblive card(I cant do the echo trick on linux-games.com)
[11:20] <candlelight> the dpkg is here now :)
[11:20] <candlelight> !ubotu
[11:20] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[11:20] <candlelight> hey, still here
[11:21] <Harr___> andy: I think you could try other burning soft
[11:21] <onkarshinde> andy_: I always thought I liked Nero until it started wasting one cd for every cd written.
[11:21] <andy_> lol onkarshinde ahha
[11:21] <andy_> hmm Harr___ i guess i could try alcahol
[11:22] <onkarshinde> andy_: DVD Decryptor is best for writing an iso. It doesn't provide other functionality.
[11:22] <Harr___> yes that's good but maybe k3b?
[11:22] <brownie17> bob2: i managed to find that option for making stratagus fullscreen, and it is heaps good too!
[11:22] <brownie17> andy_, can you get alcahol for linux!?
[11:22] <andy_> lol no
[11:22] <PlutoPrime> gnomebaker 4.2 is pretty nice
[11:22] <andy_> im talking about WINDOWS
[11:22] <PlutoPrime> 0.42
[11:22] <brownie17> andy_, you ralking about windows?
[11:23] <andy_> ill load the image in alcahol now and see if i get an error
[11:23] <andy_> brownie17, im talking about alcahol in windows
[11:23] <brownie17> !add
[11:23] <ubotu> from memory, add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[11:23] <Harr___> ok..
[11:23] <azeem> so I (partly) upgraded to breezy and now X does not start anymore due to fixed font not being found, but I got x-window-system(-core) installed properly.  Anybody know what's up?
[11:23] <andy_> thanks for all your help guys :)
[11:23] <CaiN_SA> azeem,
[11:23] <Harr___> Hey did you anyone got some ideas? My probelm is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64604
[11:24] <CaiN_SA> azeem, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, will fix that i had same problem
[11:24] <brownie17> azeem, there is an XORG congiuration you have to run, but i can't remember the command,
[11:24] <CaiN_SA> brownie17, nope it was bug
[11:24] <onkarshinde> azeem: Why did you do it at all. Breezy is not final yet and may contain problems.
[11:24] <CaiN_SA> shush
[11:24] <CaiN_SA> azeem, just do as i said it will fix itself
[11:25] <azeem> CaiN_SA: heh, ok.  My parents are just not happy with me downloading all the stuff at their place, so I did it partly
[11:25] <bob2> Harr___: you're asking for people's help, but you're not willing to summarise your problem into a form suitable for IRC?
[11:25] <teleyinex> hi
[11:25] <teleyinex> its secure to upgrade from hoary to breezy now?
[11:25] <azeem> onkarshinde: I was trying to package stuff and test it.  Unstable and hoary are too far away at this stage to make that easy
[11:25] <bob2> teleyinex: no
[11:26] <teleyinex> Its better to wait until october?
[11:26] <Harr___> Ok, I only thought this is too long. But here. I installed the recent mplayerplug-in by following this method: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthr...05&page=1&pp=10 . However, it seems that watching Windows Media Videos with Mozilla Firefox doesnt work. When I am trying to watch a stream on Yle24 site (http://www.yle.fi/yle24/videosali/index.php?a=1&t=4&q=1 ) mplayerplugin crashes when the video should start. I am not the only pe
[11:26] <Harr___> rson who has problems with that, so I think perhaps this is a common problem. (Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread....95&page=3&pp=10 ) Any suggestions how to fix this problem? I am using Hoary and FF 1.06. All codecs should be installed completely.
[11:26] <CaiN_SA> azeem, that "partly" is the problem
[11:26] <CaiN_SA> i run breezy i have no problems
[11:26] <CaiN_SA> its not as bad as you think
[11:26] <a-l-p-h-a> Why I be getting a 'configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables' after I run ./configure ?
[11:26] <bob2> Harr___: have you filed a bug yet?
[11:26] <bob2> a-l-p-h-a: because you didn't install a compiler
[11:26] <bob2> a-l-p-h-a: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:26] <CaiN_SA> ya
[11:26] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, can't find gtp-sharp in those repros..
[11:26] <CaiN_SA> its libs or sumthing
[11:27] <Harr___> Bob2: No, I am not sure that's a real bug
[11:27] <a-l-p-h-a> bob2,  they're installed.  it exists under /usr/bin (cc, and gcc)
[11:27] <HrdwrBoB> a-l-p-h-a: have you installed build-essential?
[11:27] <a-l-p-h-a> bob2, I'll try that.
[11:27] <CaiN_SA> a-l-p-h-a, you are missing c libraries i reckon
[11:27] <bob2> a-l-p-h-a: what are you compiling?
[11:27] <bob2> CaiN_SA: your system would not boot without the C library
[11:28] <CaiN_SA> not those ones man
[11:28] <CaiN_SA> the headers
[11:28] <CaiN_SA> thats what i meen
[11:28] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: erm - I have 4 lines of output from apt-cache search gtk-sharp in front of me...
[11:28] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: typo maybe?
[11:29] <a-l-p-h-a> bob2,  I'm trying to install this... ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/dm/patches/2.6-unstable/2.6.8.1/ (for SATA support)
[11:29] <a-l-p-h-a> HrdwrBoB,  CaiN_SA , I was missing the essentials... I've installed them now.
[11:29] <CaiN_SA> erm a-l-p-h-a i wouldnt do that if i was you
[11:29] <a-l-p-h-a> CaiN_SA, ?
[11:29] <CaiN_SA> you gonna f,,,,,,,,, up your system
[11:29] <candlelight> !redhat
[11:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, candlelight
[11:29] <CaiN_SA> why you trying to install that ?
[11:29] <bob2> a-l-p-h-a: er
[11:29] <russ[] > would someone mind helping me get teamspeak and et to work on my sblive card(I cant do the echo trick on linux-games.com)
[11:30] <a-l-p-h-a> CaiN_SA,  cause I have an NTFS drive that was setup at raid0.
[11:30] <bob2> a-l-p-h-a: why are you touching 2.6.8.1 at all?
[11:30] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, with my former repros it was called gtk-sharp and gtk-sharp2.. and now i can find examples and gapi. is gapi the rigth one?
[11:30] <Harr___> First I tried with the mplayerplugin version which can be downloaded with apt-get but then the result was same.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: I have no idea - try running apt-cache show <packagename> to see if it is what you need
[11:31] <a-l-p-h-a> bob2, I'm trying to get access to an NTFS drive that's SATA RAID0.
[11:31] <bob2> !+sata raid
[11:31] <ubotu> bob2: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:31] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: what's that url?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[11:32] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, is your raid0 created by sil3112?
[11:32] <bob2> the SATA "RAID" faq
[11:32] <bob2> on www.zzyyz.us or so
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> SATA raid faq is awesome
[11:32] <a-l-p-h-a> candlelight, no its via's sata chipset... I forget what now.
[11:32] <selinium> hi thoreauputic, How is it going? Looking busy!
[11:32] <thoreauputic> selinium: not bad - how are you?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> selinium: no, not really busy :)
[11:33] <a-l-p-h-a>  candlelight,  VT8237 I believe.
[11:33] <selinium> thoreauputic, not too bad, have to get one of my PHP projects finished this week! apart from that, Cant grumble!
[11:33] <bob2> it's important to note that "RAID" is not the issue, tho
[11:34] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, I mean, your're using it under windows with bios assisted raid0?
[11:34] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, i really don't know what package i need.. I want to install GUI tool for mono.. and i've been told to install gtk-sharp
[11:34] <bob2> fhl0e: gtk-sharp is not a "GUI tool for mono"
[11:34] <russ[] > would someone mind helping me get teamspeak and et to work on my sblive card(I cant do the echo trick on linux-games.com)
[11:34] <bob2> fhl0e: it's a GUI toolkit
[11:34] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: I'm not a coder - someone else might know
[11:34] <a-l-p-h-a> candlelight,  yes... it's software raid... it's an SATA drive supported by the chipset
[11:34] <bob2> russ[] : dude, perhaps it's time to try  a different tack; what did the mailing list say?
[11:34] <nalioth> fhl0e: are you using breezy?
[11:35] <fhl0e> hoary
[11:35] <bob2> ubotu: sata raid is http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[11:35] <ubotu> okay, bob2
[11:35] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, I'm not sure if anyone has any solution, but I've found this for myself: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557&page=1&pp=10
[11:36] <nalioth> fhl0e: i dont think mono or gtk# are available in hoary. when breezy releases, you'll be set
[11:36] <Harr___> Hey one question: Now all the icons in the Gnome are previewed. How to adjust those settings? And how I can change icon sizes smaller (generally)?
[11:36] <fhl0e> nalioth, i have mono installed
[11:36] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, it may not mention your chipset there, but hey, I think it's one big step towards using it
[11:37] <a-l-p-h-a> candlelight, it does mention my chipset... it's software raid, bios supported raid.
[11:37] <nalioth> fhl0e: ok then. i'm not a coder either, i just know there is gonna be much more mono gtk# and all that in breezy
[11:37] <bob2> fhl0e: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[11:37] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, cool then, hopefully that helps
[11:38] <pkern> fhl0e: But gtk-sharp is probably missing, as it was introduced with breezy as far as I could see.
[11:38] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, I'm having raid0 created by bios, used it under windows, only to find that linux couldn't detect it out-of-the-box (some months/years ago)
[11:38] <bob2> gtk-sharp was in warty
[11:39] <a-l-p-h-a>  candlelight  I found something about that... and people have had success.
[11:39] <nige> g'day
[11:39] <nige> I am having problems with azureus.
[11:39] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, I still haven't set it up now, but yeah.. the success stories are encouraging
[11:39] <fhl0e> bob2, done
[11:39] <nige> it starts  up and then tries to conect but cant. but it works fine with gnome torrent
[11:39] <nige> i am confuzed
[11:40] <a-l-p-h-a> candlelight, http://www.yoper.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=2634
[11:40] <bob2> fhl0e: get rid of that backport line
[11:40] <a-l-p-h-a> candlelight, I just googled linux raid0 ntfs mount and I got some relevant hits.
[11:41] <Harr___> How to adjust icon settings in Gnome (generally)?
[11:41] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, you're lucky, I couldn't find anything when I first set up my raid0, until recently
[11:42] <siimo> Harr___, icon theme?
[11:42] <fhl0e> bob2, I still don't have gtk-sharp in synaptic or apt-cache
[11:42] <candlelight> a-l-p-h-a, thanks for the link, it also mention dmraid, the chances are very high now ;)
[11:43] <Harr___> siimo: the behavior.. Now all the icons in the Gnome are previewed. How to adjust those settings? And how I can change icon sizes smaller (generally)?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: apt-cache show  gtk-sharp-gapi  ? Is that relevant for you?
[11:46] <js_> whats the reason to mount /.dev and so on?
[11:46] <bob2> fhl0e: sure youcan
[11:47] <odd_> dodging the disco bullet
[11:47] <Harr___> siimo: Please do you have ideas
[11:48] <kairu0> gtk-sharp eh
[11:48] <siimo> Harr___, you can goto theme settings and theres a tab called icons
[11:48] <fhl0e> thoreauputic, maybe, but if i understood bob2, gtp-shapr isn't what i'm looking for..
[11:49] <bob2> fhl0e: gtk-sharp are the gtk c# bindings
[11:49] <bob2> are in hoary
[11:49] <bob2> and warty
[11:49] <thoreauputic> fhl0e: well, if you don't know what you're looking for, no amount of searching will help , clearly :)
[11:49] <vladuz976> so ubunt is to debian what fedora is to redhat?
[11:49] <bob2> adding any non-ubuntu apt source is going to screw you over
[11:49] <bob2> vladuz976: no
[11:49] <vladuz976> bob2, then waht?
[11:49] <bob2> then nothing
[11:49] <bob2> not everyrthing is an analogy to everything else
[11:49] <vladuz976> bob2, what is it?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !ubuntu
[11:49] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[11:49] <Harr___> siimo: Yeah but there you can only select other themes, not that what i am looking for
[11:50] <fhl0e> bob2, i want a visual basic look-alike development tool based on mono.. any ideas what i need...
[11:50] <bob2> vladuz976: it's a distribution, which branched from Debian last year
[11:50] <bob2> fhl0e: there isn't one
[11:50] <bob2> fhl0e: if you want visual basic, stay on windows
[11:50] <vladuz976> bob2, fedora is based on redhat, no?
[11:50] <bob2> vladuz976: and maintains reasonably close ties
[11:50] <bob2> fhl0e: perhaps monodevelop will satisfy you
[11:50] <bob2> vladuz976: and I'm based on my mum
[11:51] <bob2> vladuz976: that doesn't make me like fedora in any way
[11:51] <odd_> haha bob2
[11:51] <vladuz976> bob2, true
[11:51] <paul1> vladuz976:  It releases alot more often the Debian even did
[11:51] <bob2> fhl0e: libgtk-cil is where the GTK c# bindings hide on hoary
[11:51] <j4v4m4n> fhl0e: #develop -- dotGNU portable .NET runs sharp develop on GNU/Linux
[11:52] <bob2> fhl0e: sorry for the confusion
[11:52] <vladuz976> paul1, so it's not as stable as debian
[11:52] <bob2> vladuz976: no, it's just released more often
[11:52] <j4v4m4n> vladuz976: Fedora in not based on Redhat -- It is sponsored by Redhat and packages from Fedora is taken for RHEL
[11:53] <paul1> vladuz976: about as stable,  Debian has this idea that people only wants releases even two to three years
[11:53] <vladuz976> bob2, meaning new software right, so why doesn't debian relaese that if it is stable?
[11:53] <j4v4m4n> vladuz976: the pckage quality is not as good as debian
[11:53] <ompaul>  fedora discussion would be better on #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:53] <vladuz976> j4v4m4n, why not?
[11:53] <bob2> vladuz976: debian's release cycle is very different and has very different goals
[11:53] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: rubbish
[11:53] <bob2> paul1: that's not at all the case
[11:53] <fhl0e> bob2, i have monodevelop, but can't figure out how to show/use "GUI interface" tool. I'll probably post this elsewhere but just for ino..:9
[11:54] <fhl0e> info
[11:54] <paul1> bob2: It is so
[11:54] <termitor> hello , bugzilla on kontact, who is the surender ?
[11:54] <bob2> paul1: debian has a lack of person-power to release more than once every two to three years
[11:54] <bob2> paul1: it's absolutely not, almost everyone wants to release faster
[11:54] <paul1> bob2: Debian hasn't the will to release more that even three years
[11:54] <thoreauputic> paul1: debian has to prodeuce for ~11 architectures
[11:54] <bob2> a) wrong, b) off-topic
[11:54] <paul1> thoreauputic: Not any more
[11:54] <bob2> debian does 10 times as many packages as ubuntu on 12 architectures
[11:54] <fhl0e> j4v4m4n, i'll check in on #develop..
[11:55] <j4v4m4n> vladuz976: the process is not as foolproof as debian, debian packages never break the system but sometimes ubuntu packages does
[11:55] <bob2> paul1: then let's revisit the discussion if/when SCC ever happens
[11:55] <paul1> bob2: ok
[11:55] <bob2> until then they are very different OSs and also off-topic
[11:55] <davro> j4v4m4n: what the fud are you talking about.
[11:55] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: hah - clearly you never ran sid
[11:57] <j4v4m4n> thoreauputic: ya I never ran sid --  ubuntu is based on Debian unstable, isn't it ?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: snapshot of, yes
[11:57] <Harr___> thanks and bye
[11:58] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, one can take a snapshot and clean it up, ergo ubuntu
[11:59] <codenut> is PPP normally hard to set up?
[11:59] <CaiN_SA> no
[11:59] <codenut> I mean to keep going?
[11:59] <ompaul> codenut, no
[11:59] <thoreauputic> codenut: for dialup? Not usually , no
[11:59] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: is it that clean as ubuntu stable ? well let ubuntu prove itself -- I had some issues with packages in ubuntu
[11:59] <ompaul> codenut, ping -i 53 some.random.url (your www for isp) should keep it alive
[12:00] <codenut> Really, hmmmm must be another problem.
[12:00] <codenut> It connects then dumps.
[12:00] <ericf> I have a working hoary install on hda3, and copied everything with `cp -ax` to /dev/hda2, but it wouldn't boot until I explicitly copied /dev to hda2 as well. Now I upgraded the hda2 install to breezy, but it complains on boot that it can't mknod some things because it's a readonly filesystem. my fstab says `/dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1`. How do I make the /dev filesystem properly?
[12:00] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, actual packages? backports / universe packages or main?
[12:00] <codenut> I am building it with a wifi card and will be pulling that and setting up with PPP at site.
[12:00] <bob2> ericf: don't copy /dev
[12:01] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: probably my mistake -- I tried installing xmms from debian repository
[12:01] <ericf> bob2: but what then? If I didn't do it I had kernel panic at startup
[12:01] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: there you go
[12:02] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, so your problem was yourself :)
[12:02] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: but some problem with locale - I had selected IN and probably this debian package had only US locale
[12:02] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: not all
[12:02] <thoreauputic>  20:02:45 up 81 days,  4:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.08
[12:03] <thoreauputic> no complaints here
[12:03] <j4v4m4n> it tries to synchronise time with ubuntu servers and fails always
[12:03] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, you choose to use a repo that is not part of the O/S you might as well buy a Ford and Fit toyota parts
[12:03] <kairu0> lol
[12:04] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: ubuntu is a debian snapshot, and the debian packages should work
[12:04] <mugwump> best to use source packages if you want to mix in debian packages...
[12:04] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, you seem to have missed the words that I used - cleaned up
[12:04] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: epiphany is based on firefox and firefox plugins should fit epiphany
[12:04] <nalioth> j4v4m4n: OSX is based on bsd, and bsd stuff definitely doesnt work on OSX (without serious manipulation)
[12:04] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, apples oranges
[12:04] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: no you see the snapshot is at 6 month intervals
[12:05] <ericf> how to make a /dev filesystem if you don't have one? I get kernel-panic at bootup.
[12:05] <mickzz> hello, I apt-get linux-image-2.6.11.1-368 but after I log in to gnome it just locks, anyone has an idea?
[12:05] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: OK I agree
[12:05] <thoreauputic> mickzz: yes, don't use 2.6.11 - it is unsupported
[12:05] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, :-) welcome to the club
[12:06] <mickzz> thoreauputic: argh why not?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> mickzz: it is in universe for a reason
[12:06] <Bateau_> how do i unpack *.gz files?
[12:06] <Xlylith> j4v4m4n: Similar experience here. I crased my firefox by uprading using debian .deb. Lesson : whenever pssible, use ubuntu official repo :-D
[12:06] <thoreauputic> mickzz: it was trialled and abandoned for hoary
[12:06] <Digis> mickzz, U should try a special kernel parameter "noinotify", just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:06] <ericf> Bateau_: on the command line it's gunzip <file>, in your graphical environment you should be able to work it out by clicking passionately ;)
[12:07] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: well I don't have any problem using any of the distros as long as it is GNU/Linux, and some of the things are what people believe, not my personal opinion
[12:07] <Bateau_> hehe, oki. thanks ;D
[12:07] <j4v4m4n> people trus debian
[12:07] <mickzz> Digis: yeah I found it on the forums, but when I run update-grub "noinotify" is gone
[12:07] <mickzz> thoreauputic: ah okay!
[12:08] <j4v4m4n> and it take some time before ubuntu has the same trust
[12:08] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: no one here is saying anything bad about Debian - it's a fine distro :)
[12:08] <Digis> mickzz, of course it will be gone, U should always place "noinotify" manually :)
[12:08] <Digis> mickzz, simply, because 2.6.11 is not supported...
[12:09] <j4v4m4n> thoreauputic: it was the feedback I got last week when I was talking with guy in deeproot
[12:09] <mickzz> Digis: what does the "noinotify" do?
[12:09] <Feral_Kid> I just tried to make some sense from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto to see if I can get a package from Debian testing, but it is a no go... Can someone explain how to do that?
[12:09] <mickzz> Digis: is it like explainable? ;-)
[12:09] <j4v4m4n> ompaul: ya better we don't mix apple and oranges :-)
[12:09] <codenut> is there a good book out on Ubuntu yet?
[12:10] <nalioth> Feral_Kid: debian pkgs are currently under discussion
[12:10] <thoreauputic> j4v4m4n: Debian has diferent goals and makes different decisions accordingly - we are lucky to have that base on which to build
[12:10] <Digis> mickzz, I dont exactly, but dnotify is changed to inotify (or maybe in reverse)
[12:10] <Digis> just google for "ubuntu inotify dnotify", I think U will find smthing
[12:11] <j4v4m4n> anyone tried breezy preview ?
[12:11] <mickzz> Digis: okay thanks, I'll reboot to have a look :)
[12:11] <ompaul> j4v4m4n, you got it, after all a orpple might be horrible :)
[12:11] <Digis> mickzz, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify.html
[12:12] <paul1> mickzz: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/inotify/README
[12:14] <mickzz> thanks, gdm didn't hang
[12:15] <Log-OS> Hi! Here are from Russia in the chat?
[12:15] <mickzz> lol: * inotify has an event that says "the filesystem that the item you were
[12:15] <mickzz>   watching is on was unmounted" (this is particularly cool).
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[12:20] <Bateau_> how can i check what program that uses what port?
[12:21] <Xlylith> j4v4m4n: colony4 yes, preview in download progress...
[12:22] <Xlylith> nice gnome 2.12 IMO :-)
[12:22] <concept10> anyone use audioscrobbler with bmp or xmms?
[12:22] <CaiN_SA> lol thoreauputic he annoying you ?
[12:23] <nalioth> )/msg chanserv op #ubuntu
[12:23] <ompaul> Bateau_, programs can use all sorts of ports - so that is not a realistic objective, however the program that *should* run on a port is recorded in /etc/services but it may not be 'honest'
[12:23] <thoreauputic> CaiN_SA: notice the different nicks - bot
[12:23] <CaiN_SA> yeh yeh :)
[12:23] <Madeye> guys i'm using warty and my dns keep changes, any idea?
[12:23] <vladuz976> is there a way i can make a command run once a week automatically?
[12:23] <CaiN_SA> i know
[12:23] <bob2> Madeye: dude
[12:23] <bob2> Madeye: install hoary already
[12:23] <bob2> you've been at this for *days*
[12:23] <ompaul> vladuz976, use 'cron'
[12:24] <vladuz976> ompaul, how can i find out how to use it?
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> warty is year and half old
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> get a new distro
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> damnit
[12:24] <ompaul> vladuz976, http://www.kerp.net/cronjob/faq.html
[12:24] <schasi> why are you using warty anyway, Madeye?
[12:24] <vladuz976> ompaul, thanks
[12:24] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, a little under a year
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> doesnt matter
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> its to old
[12:24] <CaiN_SA> and
[12:25] <CaiN_SA> your dns will change if you use ppp / pppoe
[12:25] <Bateau_> ompaul: so there is no program like atop, or top that you can use to see all ports that are in use?
[12:25] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, can you put all your thoughts together in one line?
[12:25] <ompaul> Bateau_, lsof
[12:25] <schasi> netstat?
[12:25] <Madeye> bob2, schasi,  it's the only CD i have, now i'm downloading hoary ISO to upgrade, but till then how to solve this problem
[12:26] <schasi> ?
[12:26] <CaiN_SA> ompaul, sorry i just remember something then i type again
[12:26] <bob2> Madeye: your description is way too vague
[12:26] <schasi> you download a cd to upgrade?
[12:26] <bob2> Madeye: if you're using DHCP or PPPOE, then of course it will change /etc/resolv.conf
[12:26] <bob2> that's what they do
[12:26] <CaiN_SA> lol
[12:26] <CaiN_SA> Madeye, what internet connection you using ?
[12:26] <Madeye> bob2 yes, plus I need the iso to install hoary on some other machines
[12:26] <schasi> Just replaye warty with hoary in your sources.list and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:27] <Madeye> CaiN_SA,  connected over network
[12:27] <bob2> Madeye: as in DHCP?
[12:27] <Madeye> bob2,  no it's manual
[12:28] <Madeye> schasi,  I'm aware of upgrading using apt, but I need the iso to install ubuntu on some other machiones
[12:28] <Madeye> machines
[12:28] <bob2> Madeye: then nothing will override it
[12:29] <Madeye> hmm weird, it's happening I have 196.27.0.29, 192.16.8.3, but it changed three times to 192.168.16.3
[12:31] <catfox> i don't suppose anyone can recommend a good postgres tutorial for begginers?
[12:32] <ompaul> catfox, the postgresql web site is as good as it gets
[12:32] <pitti> catfox: the upstream documentation is actually quite good
[12:32] <catfox> ompaul, righto, i'll take a look
[12:32] <pitti> catfox: if you just want to get the package going, look in /usr/share/postgresql-common/README.Debian
[12:33] <pitti> catfox: (on Breezy)
[12:33] <bob2> Madeye: ps aux | grep dhc
[12:33] <vladuz976> ompaul, i can't figure out how to use it, can you help
[12:34] <Adross> is there any way to bring back the 'open terminal' command from the right click menu?
[12:34] <termitor> kontact: WARNING: KDCOPServiceStarter: No service implementing DCOP/ResourceBackend/IMAP
[12:34] <termitor> kresources: ERROR: Couldn't connect to the IMAP resource backend
[12:34] <nalioth> Adross: on breezy?
[12:34] <termitor> ARFFFFFFFFf, please this bug sux
[12:34] <Adross> nalioth: yes
[12:34] <pitti> Adross: install nautilus-open-terminal
[12:35] <nalioth> Adross: yes, i have a link
[12:35] <nalioth> Adross: or as pitti says
[12:35] <ompaul> vladuz976, sorry what can't figure out?
[12:35] <Adross> kk, thanks
[12:35] <concept10> I have no idea why they change the right-click menu on every release of gnome
[12:35] <ompaul> vladuz976, cron?
[12:35] <vladuz976> ompaul, yeah cron
[12:36] <nalioth> Adross: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rnknownissues.html
[12:36] <Adross> nalioth: thanks
[12:37] <ompaul> vladuz976, this may help http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_crontab.htm
[12:37] <Adross> and pitti
[12:38] <vladuz976> ompaul, i'll try thanks
[12:38] <ompaul> phut where they go you get them better samples they run away, I keep my samples precious
[12:40] <G|Patrick> hi
[12:41] <G|Patrick> short question: where can i find a documentation how to get the previews with aptget
[12:41] <Madeye> bob2 root      2792  0.0  0.1  2088  988 ?        Ss   10:22   0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[12:41] <nalioth> !tell G|Patrick about upgrade2breezy
[12:42] <bob2> Madeye: dthere you go then
[12:42] <nalioth> G|Patrick: be warned, breezy is still rough around the edges
[12:42] <bob2> Madeye: you told it at one point to use dhcp
[12:42] <bob2> Madeye: then never told it to stop using it
[12:42] <Madeye> bob2 ok what to do now? I have deleted the connection and re-create it
[12:42] <G|Patrick> nalioth: well if that upgrade doesnt solve cracking sound in linux
[12:42] <ShadowStalker> good morning
[12:42] <Madeye> but it's the same
[12:42] <G|Patrick> i dont now anymore :(
[12:43] <bob2> Madeye: "deleted"?
[12:43] <galorin> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu.  I've just installed it on my laptop, but am having trouble with my Netgear MA111 (prinm2 chipset).  I installed the linux-wlan-ng package, but when plugging in the dongle, and typing iwconfig, it says "wlan0 no wireless extensions"  What more do I need to do?
[12:43] <bob2> Madeye: sudo pkill dhclient3
[12:43] <bob2> galorin: it uses it's own magic tools
[12:43] <bob2> galorin: wlan-ng-ctl or something
[12:43] <Madeye> bob2 just?
[12:44] <bob2> galorin: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="blah" authtype=opensystem
[12:44] <ShadowStalker> i have bought the "SpeedLink Illuminated USB Keyboard" and I need the scroll-lock-key to activate the backlight of it. in the console (e.g. strg+alt+f1) it works but under X it doesn's.. can anyone help me plz?
[12:44] <bob2> galorin: after 'sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable'
[12:44] <nalioth> G|Patrick: it's mighty rough, esp if you are using ppc or amd arches
[12:44] <bob2> Madeye: run it and see...
[12:45] <Madeye> jad@syntax:~ $ sudo pkill dhclient3
[12:45] <Madeye> Password:
[12:45] <Madeye> jad@syntax:~ $ ps aux | grep dhc
[12:45] <Madeye> jad      10112  0.0  0.0  1820  560 pts/2    R+   13:43   0:00 grep dhc
[12:45] <Madeye> ok, i'll see if it happen again thank you bob2
[12:45] <GNU-GPL> Madeye, no copy pastes please ;)
[12:45] <Madeye> k
[12:45] <G|Patrick> well... if shouldnt install the new ubuntu
[12:45] <G|Patrick> how can i solve my cracking sound issue?
[12:46] <markuman> whitch howto is earier to build deb packages? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto?highlight=%28how%29%7C%28to%29%7C%28build%29%7C%28debian%29%7C%28packages%29 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch?highlight=%28how%29%7C%28to%29%7C%28build%29%7C%28debian%29%7C%28packages%29
[12:46] <ShadowStalker> G|Patrick, use ALSA instead of ESD/OSS ;)
[12:46] <bob2> markuman: wwww.debian.org/devel/, new maintainer's guide
[12:46] <markuman> or are there more howtos?
[12:46] <G|Patrick> ShadowStalker: i tried
[12:46] <G|Patrick> nothing changed
[12:46] <G|Patrick> always there is cracking
[12:46] <G|Patrick> i dont know any further
[12:46] <ShadowStalker> G|Patrick, that's weird... is there a special driver for your Soundcard?
[12:47] <GNU-GPL> markuman, remember to use the versioning numbering of ubuntu intact
[12:47] <G|Patrick> there are only the defaults taht support envy audio
[12:48] <k31th> yo
[12:48] <GNU-GPL> oy
[12:48] <G|Patrick> misconfig of xorg?
[12:48] <ShadowStalker> sorry can't help ya then :(
[12:48] <galorin> bob2, now it's saying no such device..
[12:48] <G|Patrick> i hade to go into xorg to install the ati driver
[12:48] <bob2> galorin: perhaps there isn't
[12:48] <G|Patrick> not the latest
[12:48] <G|Patrick> the one before
[12:48] <bob2> galorin: they're really terrible devices, and need to be reset often
[12:48] <brownie17> does anybody know a good audio cd ripper?
[12:48] <bob2> galorin: sudo rmmod prism2_usb ; sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1
[12:48] <brownie17> apart from sound juicer
[12:48] <bob2> brownie17: abcde
[12:48] <k31th> iv installed the server version of ubuntu on my laptop, however id like to install kde do i need to add repositorys in apt-get
[12:49] <brownie17> bob2: does it have a customisable rip speed?
[12:49] <galorin> bob2, only one I've got LOL.  I'll try that
[12:49] <bob2> brownie17: why would yo uwant to lower it?
[12:49] <bob2> k31th: no
[12:49] <bob2> galorin: it's all I had for a long time, too
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> k31th, search and find out
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:49] <brownie17> bob2: well, with sound jiucer its too slow. but i don't want it too fast or the sound is distorted
[12:49] <k31th> GNU-GPL: found loads under kde :p
[12:50] <bob2> brownie17: you should always be ripping with -z, anyway
[12:50] <GNU-GPL> k31th, so there's your answer then
[12:50] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:50] <bob2> which will be slow
[12:50] <cusco> breezy is having every morning a whole bunch of updates! :))
[12:50] <brownie17> bob2: -z?
[12:50] <bob2> brownie17: "do not stop until you have ripped it perfectly"
[12:51] <VoX> what packages do i need to install into breezy to play gl games? GL screen savers work, but not ogl games. they complain that "glx" is not in xorg.conf, but it is. im using an nvidia card
[12:51] <ompaul> np
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> !nvidia
[12:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:51] <nalioth> cusco: breezy has updates throughout the day
[12:51] <brownie17> bob2: oh ok, will sound juicer allready have that option on? and can i use smeg to edit the command in the shortcut to automatically do that in the menu item?
[12:51] <bob2> VoX: what video card?
[12:51] <bob2> brownie17: I do believe SJ already uses it
[12:51] <galorin> bob2, looks like prism2 isn't being associated with the wlan0 device.  Time to chek a few config files
[12:51] <VoX> ahhh the Wisdom of Bob :)
[12:51] <VoX> bob2: fx5200
[12:51] <bob2> galorin: remember that iwconfig will never work for you
[12:52] <bob2> galorin: look at dmesg
[12:52] <bob2> VoX: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:52] <k31th> says package is not avalible :(
[12:52] <cusco> nalioth: sure
[12:53] <galorin> bob2, I just checked dmesg, and that's how I knew. I got it working under Slackware with ndiswrapper, but I demo linux on this laptop.
[12:53] <bob2> galorin: what does dmesg say?
[12:53] <brownie17> bob2: well i want it to be slightly faster, but still fairly good sound, how customisable is ABcDE?
[12:53] <bob2> brownie17: every competent cd ripping program on linux uses cdparanoia
[12:53] <bob2> brownie17: man cdaparanoia will tell you all the knobs you can tweak
[12:54] <brownie17> bob2: good on you
[12:54] <G|Patrick> the faq doesnt help
[12:54] <kenl> strange that 5.04 hoary works fine on my pc, but the live cd of 5.10 had problem with my screen
[12:55] <G|Patrick> no access to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted
[12:55] <bob2> kenl: pleae do file bugs
[12:55] <brownie17> bob2: i am having an error running abcde, it is lookingfor a cd in the wrong drive, and i want to change it to the other drive, but it won't even open without a cd, how can i fix this?
[12:55] <kenl> bob2 how do i do a file bugs?
[12:55] <bob2> kenl: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <kenl> thanks
[12:55] <bob2> brownie17: what does "it" mean?
[12:55] <bob2> brownie17: also, /etc/abdcde.conf
[12:56] <galorin> bob2, prism2usb_init:prism2_usb.o loaded, dev info is:prsm2_usb, something about corereset not supported on 2.5/2.6 kernel, then usbcore regestiring new driver.  No mention of device wlan0
[12:56] <GNU-GPL> kenl, be a complete as you can on your bug submission
[12:56] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:56] <brownie17> bob2: sorry, ABCDE
[12:56] <bob2> galorin: that's not surprising
[12:57] <kenl> GNU-GPL: with pc configuration and the specific problem and what stage and all then?
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> kenl, right
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:57] <kenl> ok
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> the more info the better
[12:57] <GNU-GPL> :)
[12:57] <kenl> no problem :)
[12:58] <galorin> So if iwtools won't work, I'll wager that the nifty GUI tools that I want to document won't work either
[12:58] <orangey> Hey all!
[12:59] <GNU-GPL> hi
[12:59] <bob2> not unless someone bothered to make them do so
[12:59] <bob2> which is fairlu unlikely
[12:59] <G|Patrick> why cant i upgrade via apt-get?
[12:59] <GNU-GPL> G|Patrick, ?
[12:59] <orangey> I was wondering how I could get my synaptics touchpad going.. it isn't "auto-detected" at the kernel level, though the driver is there at the xorg.conf level (i.e., my xorg.conf config is OK, but my kernel config isn't)
[01:00] <G|Patrick> GNU-GPL: i was led to the upgradebreezy site
[01:00] <orangey> what modules should be loaded, for example? or is it part of the psmouse driver?
[01:00] <G|Patrick> i added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted
[01:00] <G|Patrick> updated the database
[01:00] <bob2> G|Patrick: which is incorrect
[01:00] <bob2> breezy != Breezy
[01:00] <G|Patrick> but i always get errors that i have no accese to that
[01:00] <G|Patrick> i used copy and paste
[01:01] <G|Patrick> are u telling me that the faq is wrong?
[01:01] <GNU-GPL> !upgrade2breezy
[01:01] <ubotu> The guilde to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:01] <galorin> bob2, thanks for that bit, I'll keep pressing on
[01:01] <G|Patrick> there u find written "Breezy"
[01:01] <bob2> then it's wrong
[01:01] <bob2> BreezyUpgradeNotes is the only vaguely official one, anyway
[01:03] <orangey> anybody using a synaptics touchpad in hoary?
[01:03] <aftertaf> orangey:  yep.
[01:03] <aftertaf> OOTB it worked.
[01:04] <GNU-GPL> G|Patrick, well it should be non caps
[01:05] <orangey> aftertaf: what kind?
[01:05] <orangey> aftertaf: mine doesn't and hasn't.. I'm wondering if maybe I'm no tloading a module..
[01:06] <G|Patrick> i changed to "breezy"
[01:06] <G|Patrick> not i worx
[01:06] <G|Patrick> thx
[01:06] <G|Patrick> sorry for complaining
[01:06] <aftertaf> orangey:  dont think so for the module...
[01:06] <G|Patrick> i should follow "the guide"
[01:07] <G|Patrick> it says dont panic on tis back
[01:07] <aftertaf> its in xorg.conf that it worked ... you checked the bios, etc...
[01:07] <G|Patrick> ;) ;)
[01:07] <aftertaf> orangey:  mine wont work if i have an external ps2 mouse connected. (like now)
[01:07] <galorin> Oh, what would be a good wifi card to get, either pcmcia or usb?
[01:08] <G|Patrick> intel oder 3com
[01:08] <G|Patrick> anything else is crap
[01:08] <orangey> aftertaf: how do I know if I need that ALPS patch?
[01:08] <orangey> hmm. maybe I'll do the patch and see if that changes anything..
[01:09] <aftertaf> no idea orangey ... never used it.
[01:09] <aftertaf> is it decettec
[01:09] <Bergcube> I have a Cisco Aironet wifi card that works flawlessly.
[01:09] <aftertaf> detected..
[01:10] <orangey> huh?
[01:10] <orangey> detected by what?
[01:10] <G|Patrick> btw. are there files which dont need an update...
[01:10] <aftertaf> er... by linux ;)
[01:11] <G|Patrick> it will load at least 40 minutes X-D
[01:11] <VoX> HrdwrBoB: cheers, that did the trick
[01:11] <aftertaf> i cant remember what command was to test, a bit like lspci....
[01:12] <kenl> its gnume that it loads into on default right?
[01:15] <G|Patrick> hi
[01:16] <G|Patrick> next Qestion: how to adjust the clock so that it doesnt modify the bios clock everytime +2h
[01:17] <G|Patrick> not its 13:15 and linux says its gmt+2 compared to the biostime that already was gmt+2 :(
[01:17] <bob2> then fix your BIOS to store the time in GMT
[01:17] <bob2> or edit /etc/default/rcS
[01:17] <bob2> not that you only have that problem because yo utold it the wrong answer to bewgin with
[01:18] <G|Patrick> bob2: my bios hasnt the option
[01:20] <aftertaf> bob2:  its weird, my home PC is doing the same...
[01:20] <aftertaf> I boot into XP from time to time and it has the wrong time, i update and shutdown... then linux has the wrong time....
[01:20] <bob2> it's not a BIOD option
[01:20] <bob2> bah
[01:20] <bob2> your bios has a clock
[01:20] <bob2> it stores the time
[01:20] <G|Patrick> sure
[01:20] <aftertaf> In the BIOS it has the correct time, and no timezone option.
[01:20] <thoreauputic> rerun base-config
[01:21] <G|Patrick> but if i start windows its changed
[01:21] <bob2> for every non-windows OS, it stores the time in GMT
[01:21] <bob2> windows insists on it being in local time
[01:21] <bob2> the BIOS does not store what timezone you are in
[01:21] <aftertaf> hehe, so change zindows time setting, right?
[01:21] <bob2> hilarity ensues
[01:21] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[01:21] <bob2> windows has no option to handle GMT hardware clocks, afaik
[01:21] <thoreauputic> rerun base-config ans change your answer tothe time question
[01:22] <thoreauputic> *and
[01:22] <bob2> the only solution if you run windows is to set the hardware clock to locltime, and tell ubuntu that
[01:22] <bob2> right, what thoreauputic said
[01:22] <ompaul> bob2, is that not 'windows has no option' and we just leave it there?
[01:24] <aftertaf> bob2:  i found the other solution good too.... never reboot in Zin again ;)
[01:25] <G|Patrick> i set utc=no
[01:26] <G|Patrick> is that localtime?
[01:28] <G|Patrick> ???
[01:29] <thoreauputic> G|Patrick: what do yu think? There are only two possibilities
[01:30] <thoreauputic> if you change it, you set your timezone in the relevant place by choosing where you live
[01:31] <G|Patrick> i am not sure
[01:32] <G|Patrick> coze i am looking for a setting like clock=local
[01:32] <G|Patrick> btw. utc= universal tmezone compensation?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> either it *is* utc, or it *isn't*
[01:33] <thoreauputic> it's that simple
[01:33] <G|Patrick> kk
[01:33] <thoreauputic> if you dual boot windows, obviously you want utc=no
[01:33] <G|Patrick> kk
[01:34] <thoreauputic> then you tell the config where you live, and that's it...
[01:34] <G|Patrick> ok
[01:34] <G|Patrick> i did :D
[01:34] <thoreauputic> OK :D
[01:34] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:36] <Alex_BO> HELLO! Who can advice me a good open source program to make web pages?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: I'm guessing you want wysiwig ?
[01:37] <G|Patrick> use a text editor and css
[01:37] <G|Patrick> .D
[01:37] <G|Patrick> tutorials can be faound at selfhtml.org
[01:38] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic: i would like to create web pages, but i don't feel like to learn html
[01:38] <thoreauputic> if so, mozilla composer or nvu <-- wysiwyg
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: see above
[01:38] <G|Patrick> try to learn there and u will elarn much more than by using a wysiwyg
[01:38] <prower> Alex_BO: I use Quanta for most of that stuff, it works well
[01:39] <thoreauputic> !tell Alex_BO about nvu
[01:40] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic: okey, so... mozilla composer or nvu? what are the pros and cons?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> pro: easy con: you don't learn anything
[01:40] <aftertaf> Alex_BO:  get and install both and make your own mind up....
[01:40] <thoreauputic> the two are very similar
[01:41] <sml> what is the official kde name of the kde network tool - the one to setup WLAN and ETH etc?
[01:41] <Alex_BO> thoreauputic: okey.thanks very much
[01:41] <gorilla_> Alex_BO, learn html rather than driving a GUI.
[01:41] <thoreauputic> nvu is based on mozilla composer
[01:42] <aftertaf> !breezy
[01:42] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic: based on composer, brought to you by Linspire, heh
[01:42] <Alex_BO> gorilla_: that would be a better thing, but i have no time and i wanna make a little web site
[01:42] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: correct
[01:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:43] <moleman> woo
[01:43] <moleman> hello
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Alex_BO: you'll find it's useful to use the html features anyway ( especially for cleaning up the code)
[01:43] <reiki> <--- has been making web pages since before there were even pictures on the web... it was text only :)
[01:43] <reiki> <--- old
[01:44] <ompaul> reiki, archie veronica gopher
[01:44] <ompaul> or pre that
[01:44] <reiki> ompaul: exactly... there was no altavista or google :)
[01:44] <moleman> how do ya go about changing the version # in firefox so you can access the extensions page?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> moleman:  open about:config and search for subvendor , edit the string
[01:45] <snorks> reiki: have url to a page you've made?
[01:45] <reiki> moleman: there's a link right on the page that you get to that says you need to have a different version.
[01:46] <moleman> I'm a newbie to Linux, thoreauputic, how do I open that ?
[01:46] <thoreauputic> moleman: sorry vendorsub
[01:46] <thoreauputic> type about:config in firefox
[01:46] <moleman> ah
[01:46] <thoreauputic> in the location field
[01:46] <moleman> yeah
[01:46] <thoreauputic> use the search box at the top left
[01:46] <reiki> snorks: everything I do now is database driven pretty much. Except for the one for work which uses a text->database api. My own site is due for updating and the work one is www.ubmicro.buffalo.edu. My personal one is www.yardbird.net
[01:47] <ompaul> moleman, see the address bar write 'about:config' in there and see what happens
[01:47] <moleman> I did, problem solved
[01:47] <moleman> thanks for that one
[01:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:48] <snorks> reiki: cool
[01:48] <moleman> hmm
[01:48] <ompaul> s/and/an
[01:48] <snorks> reiki: although i did notice a (perhaps?) typo:/ maybe its intentional, but the link to ubuntu linux on the right is called "Obuntu Linux"
[01:48] <reiki> snorks: I kinda got out of doing pages for others when I had my accident in 2001. I never really got back into it as a business
[01:49] <nalioth_zZz> vegemite?
[01:49] <reiki> oh! I can fix that
[01:49] <moleman> hey, do you know to fix up my wireless keyboard so it activates earlier in the boot up process?
[01:49] <Sionide> mmm vegemite is nice
[01:49] <Sionide> pity they don't sell it here anymore..
[01:49] <moleman> because otherwise I have to grab a wired one plug it in and use it to select the OS
[01:50] <ompaul> nalioth_zZz, stuff you spread on bread the .au peanut butter if you will - different taste - very different
[01:50] <aftertaf> moleman:  can you use it to get into the bios?
[01:50] <thoreauputic> moleman: no idea - my network has two yoghurt cups connected with string ;-)
[01:50] <moleman> odly, yes
[01:50] <reiki> snorks: fixed... thanks!
[01:50] <draug_n> what do i need to enable in the kernel config to get a framebuffered console?
[01:51] <reiki> time to go to work... see y'all from there
[01:51] <Whistler> :)
[01:53] <moleman> aftertaf: any idea?
[01:55] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic the entertainer
[01:55] <bimberi> thoreauputic: :) ('twas a good moment to join) (PS: You're /away atm)
[01:56] <thoreauputic> oops
[01:56] <thoreauputic> :) back
[01:58] <aftertaf> moleman:  nope.... apart from checking and enabling all possible settings in BOIS.
[01:58] <moleman> damn
[01:58] <moleman> another question. Kopete. How the fark does one install it?
[01:59] <nalioth_zZz> moleman: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install kopete"
[01:59] <aftertaf> lool, but thoreauputic, who are "the followers of Mammon" ?
[01:59] <draug_n> corporate money-grabbers :)
[01:59] <aftertaf> nice one from beyond the pillow nalioth_zZz ;)
[01:59] <draug_n> indeed..
[01:59] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic: aftertaf: no religious talk in here, please
[02:00] <thoreauputic> hahah
[02:00] <aftertaf> off to te pick?
[02:00] <aftertaf> toepick?
[02:00] <aftertaf> hehehe.
[02:00] <az[a] zel> hey, anyone using the mplayer-mozilla plugin: this site seems to not work properly: www.onegoodmove.org/1gm. the quicktime elements are meant to be "click to play", but they all just start playing. :) oh well
[02:02] <thoreauputic> moleman: dpkg -S says the package is called " kopete" , funnily enough...
[02:02] <az[a] zel> btw, with windows network sharing. does one have to run "smbpasswd" at the command line manually to add oneself to the samba users list, or is there a GUI way to do it?
[02:02] <Vektram> can anyone help me with apache2?
[02:03] <Vektram> it's simple really, my web server redirects from the root /var/www/ folder to /var/www/apache-2-default even when the apache web folder doesn't exist
[02:03] <Vektram> there's an index.php in my main directory
[02:04] <aftertaf> ahhhhh, the joys of internet:
[02:04] <aftertaf> It's a word of Aramaic origin, meaning something like 'riches' or, by personification, 'money-god'.
[02:04] <twibbler> dooglus: version 2.5.1 of grep have a wonderful quote of its inability to cope with UTF ..
[02:04] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: you missed Sunday school or sabbath school I guess :)
[02:05] <aftertaf> ohhh yeah! big time.
[02:05] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic: aftertaf: please
[02:05] <thoreauputic> :) No escape for me - preacher's son :)
[02:05] <aftertaf> nalioth_zZz:  eh? what? ;)
[02:06] <nalioth_zZz> thoreauputic: aftertaf: religious talk (including money worship) in #ubunbu-offtopic please
[02:06] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: are you serious? This is just light-hearted banter
[02:06] <aftertaf> hmmm... Should I upgrade to breezy now, or wait until october the 14th?
[02:07] <nalioth_zZz>  thoreauputic there are many religions in the world. do you know which ones your 'light-hearted-banter' will offend?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: erm - escuse me but the word "mammon" is just an english word with no necessary religious connotation
[02:08] <spike> hi there
[02:08] <twibbler> dooglus: the bug has been introduced ..... in the latest version ... so trying to sort out the fix .... which we think is a rewrite of grep .....
[02:09] <moleman> thats like saying Jesus is just an english word with no necessary religious connotation but when you read it you think of the son of god
[02:10] <moleman> goes hand in hand with Mammon
[02:10] <Hoxzer> hi
[02:10] <moleman> buh bye
[02:10] <spike> uhm, reading from the breezy release announcement:
[02:10] <spike> a commitment to security updates
[02:10] <spike> for 18 months
[02:10] <spike> I thought the support was for 5 years...
[02:11] <pitti> spike: for breezy+1
[02:11] <spike> iirc I read so somewhere on the ubuntu website
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> where can i get the source for kubuntu-default-setttings |?
[02:11] <Vektram> can anyone help?
[02:11] <aftertaf> first time ive evrer heard the word, to be honest...
[02:12] <Hoxzer> I just accidently deleted my chroot folder and I tried to recover one file with the stellar phoenix ext3 and linux quick recovery, but they were not able to find files so do you think I should just format the partition and reinstall ubuntu or try to recover the file with some other software?
[02:12] <spike> pitti: sorry? u meant 18 months are just for breezy since it's not stable?
[02:12] <spike> s/since/because/
[02:13] <pitti> spike: it will be stable, but warty, hoary, and breezy will all get 18 months
[02:13] <pitti> spike: breezy+1 will get an extended time
[02:13] <aftertaf> same sentence...
[02:13] <spike> pitti: ah, ok, I c. tnx
[02:14] <spike> also, on the announcement I read dvds are available, but I can see just install/live CDs...
[02:15] <xtr3> is Breezy preview good to download than previous version?
[02:16] <a8o> hey, how're you all doing?
[02:16] <a8o> is there anybody here who could help me out?
[02:16] <bimberi> xtr3: if you want a stable system, go for hoary
[02:18] <xtr3> ok ty
[02:18] <spike> anybody got breezy dvd?
[02:18] <twibbler> dooglus: Have a solution ....
[02:18] <Hoxzer> :D nobody wants to give their opinion about my problem
[02:18] <a8o> i tried installing ununtu 5.04 on my laptop (toshiba te2100) but didn't realise the ac power wasnt plugged in, the battery ran down and now it won't recognise when the ac power is in to recharge it...is this normal?
[02:19] <Hoxzer> 'well I already re wrote it but it wasn't as good as it was then :(
[02:19] <Hoxzer> :E I'm afraid I just should format it ...
[02:19] <a8o> ie would ubuntu support my ac adapter? my only option at the moment i guess is to have someobdy else recharge me battery for me
[02:19] <Hoxzer> its only two lessons  :E
[02:20] <glDaher> I have hoary installed, and I keep it up to date with the update manager... do I have breezy now, or shall I download the iso and update?
[02:21] <nalioth> glDaher: you can change some text entries in one of your files, to upgrade
[02:21] <xtr3> can u help me what best alternative or program to run windows games? or OS more stable?
[02:21] <mercurus> Greetings all
[02:22] <a8o> i guess ill have to come back later and ask another time when there's more people around
[02:22] <a8o> thanks anyways
[02:22] <Hoxzer> aaasrgh :D give me some advices :
[02:22] <aftertaf> a8o:  hardwarepb...
[02:22] <auTONYmous> I'm getting a "failed to run <whatever app> as user root: Child terminated with 207 status" error
[02:22] <auTONYmous> anybody know what that is?
[02:22] <glDaher> nalioth: thanks, but is there any document that can help me upgrade?
[02:23] <glDaher> I don't want to re-install the whole system
[02:23] <xtr3> Advice on windows games? APPS?
[02:23] <nalioth> !tell glDaher about upgrade2breezy
[02:24] <glDaher> cool, nice bot there :)
[02:24] <Whistler> !upgrade2breezy
[02:24] <ubotu> The guilde to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:24] <Whistler>  guilde
[02:24] <Whistler> should be guide
[02:24] <a8o> afteraf: yeah, hardware problem, but i dunno if anybody has a quick workaround
[02:24] <a8o> i can get like 30 secs of power out of it, a cd i could put in to make it work or something
[02:24] <a8o> who knows
[02:27] <bimberi> ubotu: no, upgrade2breezy is <reply> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:27] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[02:27] <sorush20> how can I reinstall and reset my configuration files for gnome from the KDE desktop
[02:29] <ompaul> sorush20, there is a kludge but first what did you do to bend/break the original setups (this will allow me consider if what I have matchs your requirement)
[02:29] <glDaher> question, must I change every word hoary in the sources.lst file to breezy ?
[02:29] <glDaher> or just the first one?
[02:29] <bimberi> glDaher: all of them
[02:30] <Earthen> Is breezy stable at the moment?
[02:30] <ompaul> !breezy
[02:30] <CaiN_SA> lol
[02:30] <ompaul> !tell Earthen about breezy
[02:31] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, where is the joke?
[02:31] <CaiN_SA> Earthen, no its not. It wil ll be stable when its released
[02:31] <Earthen> I guess that was a stuped question!
[02:31] <pow3r> i am breezy, it s very good
[02:31] <CaiN_SA> its not 100% stable
[02:31] <glDaher> !tell glDaher about breezy
[02:32] <G|Patrick> does somebody know mplayer debs?
[02:32] <sorush20> ompaul: I installed kde and then started using it but then I choose to keep the genome desktop manager and now I can't load the gnome but I can load the KDE, the gnome keeps flashing and there are errors visible..
[02:32] <Earthen> I would expect it to be 100% nothing is 100% but is it crashing like 10 times a day?
[02:32] <sorush20> ompaul: the error flashes back and forth and I can 't read it
[02:32] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, this is true however I can say that I have no problems running Linux dhcppc0 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux (so far anyway)
[02:32] <Earthen> wouldn't*
[02:33] <ompaul> sorush20, how did you install kde
[02:33] <GNU-GPL> G|patrick, it's in the repos
[02:33] <sorush20> from synaptic.. just downloaded KDE
[02:33] <CaiN_SA> ompaul, you may not have, neither do i but, other hardware might :(
[02:34] <sorush20> ompaul: from synaptic
[02:34] <ompaul> CaiN_SA, ergo the comment that I had the bot pass on
[02:34] <transparentdream> Where's the CD burner in ubuntu?
[02:35] <mjr> transparentdream, open a file manager window, open menu Places
[02:35] <bimberi> transparentdream: Nautilus (the file manager) will burn CDs
[02:35] <X7C> trans you have to use nautilus's one
[02:35] <CaiN_SA> or
[02:35] <CaiN_SA> install k3b :D
[02:35] <X7C> but I recommend that you use k3b
[02:35] <CaiN_SA> heh
[02:35] <mjr> transparentdream, there's the burner. Or of course you can install a more full-featured one if you need, eg. gnomebaker
[02:35] <ompaul> sorush20, you could try to remove kde and see if your back to normal operations - you should be able to choose gnome before you login via something with a name like 'session choose' its exact name escapes me at,
[02:35] <transparentdream> uh apt-get gnomebaker?
[02:36] <X7C> apt-get install gnomebaker
[02:36] <mjr> transparentdream, yah, except you forgot the "install" in between :)
[02:36] <CaiN_SA> transparentdream,  sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:36] <mercurus> ompaul: session manager ... sorush20 is kdm or gdm running, or both ?
[02:36] <ppd> hello. does anyone know how to solve the problem with the rtl8139 and breezy?
[02:36] <transparentdream> AHHwhich is better k3b or gnomenaker
[02:36] <sorush20> ompaul: I don't want to lose kde I want to keep it..
[02:36] <X7C> k3b is more featured
[02:36] <CaiN_SA> mercurus, kdm and gdm cant both run
[02:36] <fhl0e> mono 1.1.9 on hoary, should that work?
[02:36] <X7C> and it won't work (at least for me) with external usb devices
[02:36] <transparentdream> can i use k3b even though i use gnome
[02:36] <X7C> !
[02:36] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, X7C
[02:37] <transparentdream> cause i thought it would ony work with kde
[02:37] <X7C> that last part is a bout gnomebaker
[02:37] <ompaul> mercurus, guess gdm
[02:37] <CaiN_SA> yes transparentdream
[02:37] <transparentdream> ok thanks
[02:37] <transparentdream> ah
[02:37] <transparentdream> ubuntu
[02:37] <transparentdream> never ceases to amaze me
[02:37] <X7C> :p
[02:37] <mik3_> lol, then just wait until you come accross and OS that requires thought =P
[02:38] <mik3_> a/and/an
[02:38] <ompaul> sorush20, well if you can press the print screen maybe you can put the pic on the web (paste.ubuntulinux.nl) and we might be able to see what the error is
[02:38] <CaiN_SA> has nothing to do with ubuntu its always been like that transparentdream
[02:38] <mercurus> hmm ... is it just me or is Soundjuicer quite slow when importing tracks ?
[02:38] <transparentdream> lol
[02:38] <transparentdream> then linux
[02:38] <CaiN_SA> thx :D
[02:38] <mercurus> transgress: GNOME :)
[02:38] <sorush20> ompaul: that is exactly the problem, I can't see the error it just flashes and I can't press print screen fast enough..
[02:38] <X7C> :S
[02:39] <X7C> damn i'm late for school :(
[02:39] <X7C> and i don't want to go...
[02:39] <gorilla> X7C: start running then :-)
[02:39] <transparentdream> It says I need cdrdao
[02:39] <transparentdream> what is that
[02:39] <Red_Bullet> how can i allow some ports
[02:39] <Red_Bullet> ?
[02:40] <ompaul> X7C, go, this will be here later
[02:40] <X7C> it's the app that actually burns the stuff
[02:40] <X7C> but the comfy bed will not
[02:40] <X7C> :(
[02:40] <evader> is there some sort of alarm application? for gnome preferably? maybe something that could start playing music??
[02:41] <mik3_> alarm for what?
[02:41] <mik3_> when your parents find your porn cache?
[02:41] <Red_Bullet> how can i allow apache port
[02:41] <evader> mik3_: sorry, i meant an alarm clock
[02:41] <ompaul> X7C, you get one chance at Mon 12th Sept - use it or loose it
[02:42] <Red_Bullet> port 80 ?
[02:42] <madicode> heyas
[02:42] <mik3_> evader : i'd google something along the lines of "linux alarm clock" then apt-cache search for the application
[02:42] <anto9us> evader: cron will run a scheduled command
[02:43] <mik3_> ah or go with the blatently and conveniently obvious, sorry hehe
[02:43] <madicode> I have installed ubuntu, and set it up etc, running fine for me (breezy)..  I do have one question though, the backports repo, is there one for breezy?
[02:44] <sorush20> why do some programs spontaneously terminate
[02:44] <Red_Bullet> please help me how can i allow ports
[02:44] <mik3_> sorush20 : what programs?
[02:44] <X7C> evader use dron
[02:45] <X7C> *cron
[02:45] <anto9us> Red_Bullet: only root can open ports below 1000
[02:45] <mik3_> sorush20 : i get the same problem unfortunately with gFTP and bmp
[02:45] <evader> cron and mpd or something?? yeah I could - i was just after a little gnome applet if possible though
[02:45] <X7C> oh
[02:45] <X7C> dunno anything about that
[02:48] <madicode> there is a graphical cron tab editor for gnome to make it easier..  http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-crontab/?topic_id=58
[02:49] <evader> thanks
[02:49] <evader> i'm fine with crontab
[02:49] <evader> just was after an applet...
[02:49] <evader> but thanks
[02:49] <madicode> oh ok.. :)
[02:49] <mercurus> evader: xmms is available in universe ...
[02:49] <mercurus> it has an alarm applet
[02:49] <sorush20> mik3_: I get the same problem with Open office.. which I am no longer able to run on the computer for unknown reasons... and also firefox..
[02:49] <mercurus> err, plugin.
[02:51] <sorush20> why does firefox persist to use the inadequate gnome save as dialogue, even though I am log into KDE and would prefer the KDE dialogue
[02:56] <anto9us> evader: I don't know how good it is but you might want to look at gcrontab, it's in universe
[02:56] <auTONYmous> okay, I'm still getting the user permissions problem...
[02:57] <CaiN_SA> sorush20, uhm its not gnome anything firefox is made with gtk etc thus it wont look like kde
[02:58] <evader> thanks
[02:58] <mercurus> I have to say Breezy looks fantastic ... can't wait to get it onto my laptop ...
[03:01] <DewDude> breezy is nice
[03:01] <DewDude> thus far it's been stable too
[03:01] <cusco> how do I see my mac address?
[03:01] <mercurus> cusco: ifconfig
[03:01] <auTONYmous> I've had a couple of little minor things with Breezy so far
[03:02] <mercurus> DewDude: I'm writing my dissertation on my laptop so I'll wait until its VERY stable, and submitted before changing anything on my laptop
[03:02] <cusco> mercurus: ty
[03:02] <anto9us> cusco: ifconfig
[03:02] <catfox> whats the power management like in breezy? suspend/hibernate has never worked for me on my laptops
[03:02] <DewDude> heh
[03:02] <DewDude> mercurus, http://itux.ath.cx/phpsysinfo <---hasn't crashed since i installed
[03:03] <mercurus> catfox: not sure about Breezy, but a bit of tweaking with ACPI and I've got all bar monitor switching working
[03:03] <mercurus> that's with a 2.6.11.6 kernel ...
[03:03] <catfox> ah. no time to fiddle about with anything these days. if it doesn't work right away it either stays broken or i use suse :)
[03:04] <mercurus> suspend to ram, disk, dynamic clock GPU, cpu frequency scanning, screen blanking, HDD spindown, brightness screen dynamically controlled, although hotswapping IDE devices is a but fraught
[03:04] <mercurus> *bit
[03:05] <catfox> is 'hotswapping', changing a device while the system is powered up?
[03:05] <DewDude> catfox, yes
[03:05] <mercurus> catfox: yeah ... removing a DVD drive and putting in an extra battery or another HDD
[03:05] <mercurus> for example
[03:06] <catfox> mint! so i could take the video card or sound card out and put another one in, and a) wont get electrocuted, and b) have working devices without rebooting?
[03:06] <dazvid> cef: where in VIC ?
[03:07] <DewDude> catfox, no
[03:07] <cef> so any issues with core bits of breezy at the moment?
[03:07] <DewDude> you can't swap cards in a desktop while it's powered up
[03:07] <catfox> i see
[03:07] <DewDude> you'll a) damage your card
[03:07] <cef> dazvid: Melbourne.. Alphington
[03:07] <DewDude> b) blow stuff up
[03:07] <mercurus> catfox: theoretically ... there is some kernel support for hotswapping PCI devices ... but I'm thinking more of fixed components from laptops with specific hotplugging support
[03:07] <dazvid> Ah, frankston here -_-
[03:07] <catfox> i get it. thanks
[03:07] <cef> DewDude: depends on the desktop, but in most normal cases, yes
[03:07] <DewDude> mercurrus: most desktop motherboards wont' allow hotwapping PCI devices
[03:08] <DewDude> mine won't
[03:08] <DewDude> it even says in the manual to not even try it
[03:09] <cef> PCI hotswap is supported (you can blame Rusty Russell for that!), but it does require you to have PCI hotswap hardware (mainboard)
[03:09] <DewDude> why would anyone want to hotwap a pci device anyway?
[03:09] <cef> hardware failure
[03:09] <DewDude> heh
[03:09] <DewDude> true
[03:09] <DewDude> i know mine won't do it, if a PCI card even slips out of socket the mobo locks up
[03:10] <DewDude> my wireless card is famous for doing that after my tower fell off it's desk
[03:11] <aboyousif> hi folks
[03:13] <aboyousif> any one here?
[03:13] <cusco> no
[03:13] <aboyousif> :)
[03:13] <aboyousif> ok if any one came, tell him that i waited him alot .. ok?
[03:13] <Bateau_> hey! how do i uninstall a package?
[03:14] <cef> 'apt-get remove package-name' or use synaptic
[03:14] <aboyousif> cef: did the ubuntu support arabic?
[03:14] <Bateau_> oki :)
[03:15] <cef> aboyousif: I think it does, but I don't speak arabic, so really, I don't know
[03:16] <aboyousif> how could i know that, i didn't get it yet
[03:16] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to make ubuntu backup important files to  FTP every day?
[03:17] <cef> anyone here running breezy previews? and if so, have you upgraded today? any issues to report?
[03:17] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:17] <HrdwrBoB> and .. a few, but nothing show stopping
[03:18] <cef> anything particular?
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> not that I can remember offhand
[03:18] <CaiN_SA> DewDude, pci express = fully hotpluggable
[03:18] <DewDude> Cain: is it?
[03:19] <DewDude> i haven't looked at it yet
[03:19] <DewDude> i'm still a ways off from upgrading. i'm gonna squeeze another year out of my current board
[03:19] <CaiN_SA> yup, lots faster and thats one of its features
[03:19] <CaiN_SA> i have to save $$$$$ then i can upgrade to a whole new pc
[03:19] <DewDude> i knew it was faster
[03:19] <DewDude> yeah
[03:20] <DewDude> my tower is two years old now
[03:20] <DewDude> well, almost
[03:20] <DewDude> sometime in octover
[03:20] <DewDude> october
[03:20] <DewDude> ok, i'm off to refill my water bottle
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> gpg: skipped "Jonathan Riddell <jr@jriddell.org>": secret key not available
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> anyone know how to solve this problem ???
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> i am using kubuntu-default-settings
[03:33] <bob2> a) #kubuntu, b) gpg --search-keys jr@jriddell
[03:35] <deFrysk> c) I prefer gnome ;p
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> bob whats ya .gnupg folder's permission setting ??? i getting this errror
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/billy/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[03:35] <bob2> then make it only readable by you
[03:35] <[PG] _Sinnlos> leute wie mach ich nen update von hoary auf breezy ? mglichst ohne die daten auf den platten zu verlieren
[03:35] <bob2> please don't tell me /home is on fat or something
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> it is chmod to 500
[03:35] <hiux> yo but i prefer xfce
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> nope
[03:36] <bob2> [PG] _Sinnlos: this is pretty clearly not a german channel
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> ext3
[03:36] <deFrysk> hiux, xfce4 is also gtk2
[03:36] <[PG] _Sinnlos> sorry
[03:36] <deFrysk> hiux, lets say I prefer gtk2 :)
[03:37] <hiux> :)
[03:37] <[PG] _Sinnlos> people such as Mach I an update of hoary on breezy? if possible without losing the data on the plates
[03:37] <hiux> xfce is more lighter
[03:37] <bob2> !+german
[03:37] <ubotu> No idea, bob2
[03:37] <bob2> !+de
[03:37] <ubotu> it has been said that de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[03:38] <deFrysk> hiux, more lighter is a double (whateverthename is)
[03:38] <CaiN_SA> or
[03:38] <CaiN_SA> he can say : much lighter
[03:38] <deFrysk> CaiN_SA, would do yes :)
[03:39] <hiux> yes, forgive my bad English
[03:39] <CaiN_SA> har har
[03:39] <__filip_> i have install ubuntu 5,10, when i installed it i dont have any interntet connection so i dont download the language packages. How can i download it now?
[03:39] <deFrysk> :D
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> ah eh .... any help to my question about ah
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> ???
[03:40] <bob2> wtf
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> anyone got the settings right ??
[03:40] <bob2> if you have a question ask, using full sentences and words
[03:40] <secureboot> is there a good place to go to find out the current level of support for the newest dual G5 machines under Ubuntu?
[03:40] <secureboot> my won't boot from the live cd, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu will even install
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> oh k ... i thought i asked ... well whats the right permission settings for the .gnupg ??
[03:40] <deFrysk> ubuntu-motu perhaps?
[03:41] <hiux> __filip_,  do you have another system?
[03:41] <bob2> drwx------  4 rob rob 4096 2005-09-12 20:12 /home/rob/.gnupg
[03:41] <bob2> wickedpuppy: ^
[03:41] <lorenzod> I've got a few issues with Breezy/Gnome as of Saturday.
[03:41] <__filip_> hiux: no
[03:41] <lorenzod> Specifically, nautilus and gnome-panel are eating all my core.
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> thanks
[03:41] <thrush_2> quick question does 'workgroup' in smb.conf = domain?
[03:41] <lorenzod> Anybody else experiencing this?
[03:42] <bob2> thrush_2: no, it's a windows concept
[03:42] <bob2> lorenzod: nothing in the bts?
[03:43] <setite> how do i change my sound output device./.. i keep doing it but it wont change
[03:43] <CaiN_SA> thrush_2, a workgroup and a domain aint the same thing, not even in doze
[03:44] <deFrysk> setite, kde ?
[03:44] <setite> YA
[03:45] <deFrysk> then I am not sure
[03:45] <deFrysk> sorry
[03:45] <setite> gah!
[03:45] <setite> np
[03:45] <setite> oooh i think i know.. maybe brother konqueror
[03:45] <deFrysk> setite, all I know is that when i used kde i had the soundserver off
[03:45] <lorenzod> bob2: I'm suspecting prelaunch.
[03:46] <deFrysk> arts is a pain
[03:46] <CaiN_SA> arts is not a pain
[03:46] <bob2> lorenzod: prelink?
[03:46] <deFrysk> CaiN_SA, then things have changed
[03:46] <CaiN_SA> you must just set everything right thenn it works very nice
[03:46] <setite> yea well see i have a stereo.. and it has USB...
[03:46] <CaiN_SA> multiple apps can sue the sound so thats real kewl
[03:47] <lorenzod> bob2: No, prelaunch.
[03:47] <setite> but i want to use my audigy2zs now... but no matter what i select the sb in the stero still outputs
[03:47] <lorenzod> Haven't used prelink on Ubuntu yet.
[03:47] <brunolima> need help installing iptables
[03:48] <brunolima> root@brunolima:/home/bruno # modprobe iptables
[03:48] <brunolima> FATAL: Module iptables not found.
[03:48] <setite> shit my soundcard documentation is in .chm
[03:48] <setite> anyone know what linux app can read those?
[03:48] <lorenzod> Anyways, bob2, I guess you are on an up-to-date Breezy?
[03:48] <hiux> why cant bmp player some wma music? i have many wma format music, but only 2 can played using bmp.
[03:49] <bob2> setite: xchm
[03:49] <bob2> brunolima: you don't need to do that
[03:49] <bob2> lorenzod: no
[03:49] <lorenzod> Ah, ok.
[03:50] <setite> thanks bob2
[03:50] <brunolima> bob2, why ?
[03:50] <bob2> brunolima: because that's a made up module name
[03:50] <qmanman> good god, why the hell is gstreamer such a joke
[03:51] <qmanman> cant even play avi files for gods sake
[03:51] <j4v4m4n> qmanman: use xine
[03:51] <bob2> qmanman: yay for stupid patents
[03:51] <bob2> qmanman: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:51] <qmanman> nah I think I'm going to build mplayer like I usually do: has the best playback quality
[03:52] <bob2> qmanman: and if you read that page, you'll find out how to make use of the pre-existing version of mplayer in ubuntu
[03:52] <j4v4m4n> xine already has .debs (I think even mplayer has got but it never worked for me)
[03:52] <setite> qmanman, vlc?
[03:53] <xerxas> is there some unofficial package of xorg that support EXA ?
[03:53] <xerxas> or official ones ?
[03:53] <qmanman> vlc? rings a bell I'll check it out
[03:53] <bob2> xerxas: no, wait a while
[03:53] <setite> qmanman, i avoid it when i can... but i think its one of the platers that plays the most
[03:53] <qmanman> bob2: I kinda like building mplayer from source :-)
[03:54] <qmanman> bob2: xine does work yes, but its playback quality pales in comparison on other players generally
[03:55] <hiux>  mplayer can found here: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[03:55] <CaiN_SA> no its not qmanman
[03:55] <bob2> hiux: please don't do that
[03:55] <hiux> why?
[03:55] <bob2> hiux: those packages are not installable, and mplayer is already in ubuntu
[03:55] <deFrysk> bad repo
[03:55] <qmanman> heheheh
[03:55] <deFrysk> hiux, bad bad bad
[03:55] <qmanman> screw sarge
[03:56] <CaiN_SA> its looking for trouble if you ask me
[03:56] <hiux> thanks
[03:56] <bob2> it doesn't matter
[03:56] <Hoxzer> how do I install linux via lan?
[03:56] <bob2> you can't install it from there anyway
[03:56] <bob2> Hoxzer: can your hardware pxeboot?
[03:56] <hiux> because i always use it in my debian sarge system
[03:56] <Hoxzer> bob2: wait a minut I'll check
[03:57] <rankit> Did anyone try updating to breezy preview?
[03:57] <bob2> lots of people tried
[03:57] <rankit> Is it stable?
[03:57] <Hoxzer> bob2: it has "lan" in boot devices
[03:57] <rankit> Would you recommend it?
[03:57] <bob2> some things are broken
[03:57] <MrBear> morning people
[03:57] <hiux> i have tried it yestoday
[03:57] <deFrysk> rankit, fairly stable but nothing guaranteed
[03:57] <rankit> Major gliches?
[03:58] <hiux> it's night here
[03:58] <j4v4m4n> MrBear: it is 7.30 pm hear :-)
[03:58] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[03:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> hey
[03:58] <j4v4m4n> Aragorn_Guardian: hi
[03:58] <hiux> 9:59pm here
[03:58] <rankit> Is anything major broken?
[03:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does Ubuntu not include Frozen Bubble by default because it's too addictive?
[03:58] <lorenzod> rankit: I've got a few issues with it.
[03:59] <MrBear> you guys know the restricted despository link so I can add it to the package manager
[03:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> breezy is coming... 8)
[03:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> The new app manager for Breezy is quite nice.
[03:59] <deFrysk> rankit, yesterday I could not burn cd's on breezy
[03:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> will be possible update from previous release?
[03:59] <rankit> That's major for me
[04:00] <deFrysk> rankit, so better stick to stable then
[04:00] <rankit> Is there any place I can find first hand reviews?
[04:00] <_mindspin> Hi, i just started to install on a sony vaio.installation hangs at "identifying cd-rom" any idea, it was also posted today by another guy in ubuntuforums
[04:00] <deFrysk> rankit, keep an eye on distrowatch.com
[04:00] <rankit> ok
[04:00] <lorenzod> rankit: I don't use gedit really, but it's been broken for me since early 2.11.
[04:00] <MrBear> well in hoary alsamixer dont work for me but ati drivers to work but the other way around in breezy
[04:00] <lorenzod> and it still is.
[04:01] <vbgunz> I just got 93 updates for Breezy
[04:01] <lorenzod> Nautilus is memory hungry.
[04:01] <rankit> woo
[04:01] <rankit> How about KDE?
[04:01] <auTONYmous> okay, I'm having the ATI problem...
[04:01] <rankit> nautilus has always been quite heavy
[04:01] <MrBear> did anybody get 3d working in breezy?
[04:02] <MrBear> ati?
[04:02] <deFrysk> rankit, dunno bout kde , better ask in #kubuntu
[04:02] <rankit> right
[04:02] <auTONYmous> I can see in my log that the FGLRX extension is loading..
[04:02] <lorenzod> rankit: This is different. It's now eating *all* my core
[04:02] <auTONYmous> but fglrxinfo is still giving me "mesa"
[04:02] <rankit> oh!
[04:03] <bob2> auTONYmous: you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[04:03] <auTONYmous> probably not....
[04:03] <rankit> I guess I'll wait till october 13
[04:04] <vbgunz> anyone know of the resolution that comes after 1280x1024?
[04:04] <rankit> Thanks
[04:04] <bob2> auTONYmous: then do so...
[04:04] <vbgunz> for some reason this res still looks big on Linux unlike on Windows
[04:04] <MrBear> 1600x1200 is what I got
[04:04] <vbgunz> that comes after 1280x1024?
[04:04] <MrBear> for me it does
[04:04] <vbgunz> ok thanks
[04:04] <deFrysk> no 1400x1050
[04:04] <Hoxzer> how do I install ubuntu via lan?
[04:05] <vbgunz> will check to see what I can do... 1280 still seems cramped
[04:05] <bob2> there are lots of possible resolutions
[04:05] <bob2> Hoxzer: google "ubuntu tftp pxe install +site:wiki.ubuntu.com"
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i will have several machines with ubuntu (i hope) makin logon in a Active Directory in a windows server. is possible with ubuntu?
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i mean...about rights, and others thing...
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone know?
[04:05] <bob2> Aragorn_Guardian: of course
[04:05] <bob2> it's just ldap, mostly
[04:06] <xerxas> bob2, is it (EXA) currently in packaging ?
[04:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice
[04:06] <bob2> xerxas: why don't you check?
[04:06] <arons> is there a problem with dhclient inthe preview release of 5.10? my prism 3886 card that requires ndiswrapper is unable to get an ip address
[04:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> i saw how is done...my fear is that has a secret thing between clients and server, all that M$ like...
[04:06] <setite> stupid xchat stopped auto identifyin
[04:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> but so is possible...
[04:07] <spike> hi again
[04:07] <bob2> arons: has anyone filed a bug?
[04:07] <spike> I'm trying wget http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/dvd/current/breezy-dvd-i386.iso but it fails
[04:07] <spike> it quits immediately without getting anything
[04:07] <spike> any idea?
[04:07] <arons> bob2: where s bugzilla for ubuntu?
[04:07] <bob2> arons: bugzilla.ubuntu.com...
[04:07] <spike> saving it with firefox seems to work, even the size is 2GB instead of 2.6GB as listed on the webpage
[04:08] <bob2> spike: you're unlikely to be able to get that unless you're using a 64-bit arch
[04:08] <setite> is there a thx tool or somethign to test that my 5.1 imaging is set right
[04:08] <xerxas> bob2, where do I check ?
[04:08] <bob2> "thx"?
[04:08] <xerxas> thanks
[04:08] <vbgunz> can someone just answer one quick question for me... If I put the resolution to high will Ubuntu be smart enough to cut if off incase my monitor goes out?
[04:08] <bob2> xerxas: changelogs.ubuntu.com
[04:08] <spiral> spike: your wget works for me, sorr
[04:08] <spiral> y
[04:08] <bob2> vbgunz: your monitor will turn itself off
[04:08] <xerxas> then I say thx bob2  :)
[04:08] <spike> bob2: oh, damn, u mean the 2gigs file limitation?
[04:09] <spike> spiral: u're on 32bit?
[04:09] <bhearsum> finally...heh
[04:09] <bhearsum> i think i broke my system. a TON of packages just got removed
[04:09] <spike> spiral: I'm on 32bit, hoary
[04:09] <spiral> spike: same for me here
[04:09] <bob2> spike: yes...
[04:09] <bhearsum> how can i get all the required packages installed again?
[04:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks...gonna out!
[04:09] <bob2> bhearsum: as the upgrade notes say, install ubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <spike> bob2: so how does it come it works for spiral?
[04:09] <bhearsum> bob2: thanks dude
[04:09] <spiral> bob2: I thought wget was patched for this ?
[04:09] <vbgunz> I mean, will it revert if it notices I am not interacting with it? I'd like to try a higher resolution but I think I might have to put it in the xorg config... If so and I switch to it, I just wish to not get locked out...
[04:10] <bhearsum> bob2: getting an error when doing that
[04:10] <bob2> spiral: only very recently
[04:10] <vbgunz> miagine asking for support without a display to begin with :P
[04:10] <bob2> bhearsum: I can't see your screen, remember
[04:10] <bhearsum> bob2: just a sec
[04:10] <bob2> vbgunz: no, it will not revert it
[04:10] <bhearsum> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[04:10] <spiral> I dld it this morning with wget, & retried the wget command he gave without any problem
[04:10] <bhearsum>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: lsb but it is not installable
[04:10] <bhearsum> oh
[04:10] <bob2> bhearsum: your sources.list is messed up
[04:10] <bhearsum> oooh.
[04:10] <vbgunz> ahh... is this what safe mode (grub menu) would be for then
[04:10] <bhearsum> no its not
[04:10] <bhearsum> it broke when i manually installed libc6 ;)
[04:11] <auTONYmous> bob2: still doesn't work...
[04:11] <bob2> wtf
[04:11] <deFrysk> ?
[04:11] <auTONYmous> That driver has been installed for a while...
[04:11] <bhearsum> yes, i know it was stupid
[04:11] <arons> btw are there gnome 2.12 packages for hoary? The state breezy is in I don't want to touch it for a good few months yet
[04:11] <bob2> please don't tell me you installed sid's libc
[04:11] <bhearsum> bob2: no, i didn't
[04:11] <vbgunz> Breezy seems good so far
[04:11] <unvs> i'm in breezy. not ONE problem still
[04:11] <bob2> arons: breezy will effectively not change from 3 weeks from now
[04:11] <vbgunz> for some reason it seems pretty stable and overall quicker than Hoary... Just my opinion
[04:11] <spike> damn, actually it works for me too on ubuntu but not on debian...
[04:12] <lorenzod> unvs: can you try gedit?
[04:12] <deFrysk> vbgunz, imagination...
[04:12] <vbgunz> miagination got it ;)
[04:12] <arons> bob2: Hmm, well that leaves me with a problem, i can't find out the cause of the problem getting an ip via dhclient with my wireless card, it worked fine in hoary
[04:12] <unvs> lorenzod: what about it?
[04:12] <spike> is gnome got anything like dcop?
[04:13] <bob2> spike: right, the fix was made recently, I guess your version of Debian doesn't have it
[04:13] <lorenzod> unvs: has been broken for me since early 2.11..
[04:13] <spike> for notifications and appa interaction I mean. is corba supposed to do that?
[04:13] <unvs> lorenzod: works for me
[04:13] <bob2> arons: just reporting that it has happened is useful
[04:13] <lorenzod> hm..
[04:13] <m0rphx> someone using firefox and having a working mathml renderer?
[04:14] <arons> it has to be a ndiswrapper bug or dhclient bug
[04:15] <lorenzod> unvs: ok, gedit does work, after I reset all gconf keys relating to it..
[04:15] <bhearsum> LOL
[04:15] <bhearsum> i really broke my system
[04:15] <pl_ice> hi
[04:17] <lorenzod> Another little thing I've noticed, Clearlooks Olive seems to be gone.
[04:17] <unvs> thank god :D
[04:17] <lorenzod> I'm stuck with something blue, grey and horrible.
[04:17] <deFrysk> lorenzod, I dont like olives
[04:17] <lorenzod> All of a sudden Clearlooks doesn't look so nice any more.
[04:18] <deFrysk> lorenzod, get gnome-themes-extras
[04:18] <lorenzod> deFrysk: That's why it's gone, you ate them!!!!
[04:18] <deFrysk> lorenzod,  ;p
[04:18] <lorenzod> deFrysk: already installed..
[04:18] <setite> anyone recall what the winamps preset file is called
[04:18] <deFrysk> lorenzod, then get it from arts.gnome.org
[04:19] <deFrysk> hehe
[04:19] <MrBear> what program I use to edit text files
[04:19] <Hoxzer> has somebody here installed ubuntu with CD-rw?
[04:19] <pl_ice> any one uses gammu or gnokii?
[04:20] <g14> How can I make the value of a uuencoded file a variable in a shell script and then have it decoded?
[04:20] <g14> I'm trying to write a shell script to deploy a few binaries and a man page
[04:20] <unvs> Lush/Milk 2.0/Gartoon for me
[04:20] <lorenzod> MrBear: there are lots of alternatives..
[04:21] <lorenzod> I prefer a Vi clone like vim or nvi
[04:21] <Hoxzer> :D really why don't they tell in the page that ubuntu install may not work if it is burned on CD-rw
[04:22] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, probably because it may not work ;p
[04:22] <MrBear> I just want to edit my xorg conf
[04:22] <pl_ice> anyone connected nokia to linux before?
[04:23] <lorenzod> MrBear: try gedit then.
[04:23] <deFrysk> nokia ...connecting people
[04:23] <MrBear> thank you
[04:23] <lorenzod> But you'll have to sudo gedit
[04:23] <__filip_> what does i need to play mpg movie in totem?
[04:23] <pl_ice> :/
[04:23] <pl_ice> __filip_  w32codecs
[04:23] <lorenzod> Since xorg.conf is not writable by ordinary users.
[04:23] <__filip_> thanx
[04:23] <deFrysk> and totem-xine
[04:24] <setite> would i be crazy to say that linux sounds better than windows?
[04:24] <tux-rox> setite, no....
[04:24] <deFrysk> setite, its a shorter friendlyer word
[04:24] <setite> im listening to music on bmp and the sound is much cleared in my zalman headphones than it is on windows
[04:24] <lorenzod> setite: depends who is saying "Linux"..
[04:24] <setite> nah i mean sound... music... not the words...
[04:25] <deFrysk> linus torvalds says linux very nicely
[04:25] <setite> haha linus torvalds pronunciation is demonic
[04:25] <lorenzod> setite: ;-)
[04:25] <Carpe_Libertatem> Did you know Finland fought with the Nazis in WWII?
[04:25] <deFrysk> helloeeee my my name issss linoess toerevaldsss
[04:25] <jdermer> hey guys... i know this is sorta offtopic
[04:25] <jdermer> but maybe one of you knows
[04:25] <setite> yea i need to find that clip of him saying it again
[04:26] <jdermer> when referring to mac os x.... wut is rosetta
[04:26] <setite> http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/
[04:26] <unvs> it's the framework for running powerpc-apps on an intel processor i thinjk?
[04:26] <ThePyromaniac> Hey, i expect people ask this all the time but i cant find answers anywhere
[04:26] <setite> http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav
[04:26] <unvs> s/thinjk/think
[04:27] <ThePyromaniac> how do i get World of Warcraft running on a amd64 ubuntu?
[04:27] <basvg> hi all... does anyone know of a repository that (already) has the rtorrent package?
[04:27] <war-totem> thats a loaded question im sure
[04:27] <brunolima> how can i put something to start with my ubuntu ?
[04:28] <brunolima> like a shell script ?
[04:28] <deFrysk> brunolima, you mean srting up progs ?
[04:28] <setite> nevermind... its his own name that is pronounced oddly
[04:29] <bhearsum> what is the correct version of libncurses5 for hoary?
[04:29] <pl_ice> hm, anyone used wine with ird programs??
[04:29] <ThePyromaniac>  i have heard that some people have managed to get wine and cedega to work on a amd 64 installation...
[04:29] <deFrysk> bhearsum, apt-cache serch ncurses
[04:29] <deFrysk> search
[04:29] <bhearsum> deFrysk: that won't tell me the version bud
[04:29] <deFrysk> ncurses --version
[04:29] <basvg> hmm, guess no rtorrent then ;-) darn
[04:29] <bhearsum> deFrysk: i don't _have_ the correct version installed
[04:30] <bhearsum> otherwise i wouldn't be asking, heh
[04:30] <deFrysk> bhearsum, tss got the wrong version ?
[04:30] <bhearsum> deFrysk: no, i was playing with the packages
[04:30] <bhearsum> and now i have to fix them
[04:30] <deFrysk> bhearsum, dummy ;p
[04:30] <bhearsum> deFrysk: i'm pretty okay with it
[04:30] <deFrysk> anyway , got to cook
[04:30] <bhearsum> care to help me out though ;)
[04:30] <deFrysk> later!
[04:30] <bhearsum> dpkg -l | grep libncurses5
[04:30] <bhearsum> uggh
[04:31] <catfox> how can i add a 3rd person to a chat in gaim?
[04:31] <bhearsum> can anyone run that for me, in hoary?
[04:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the best IRC client on Lin?
[04:32] <bhearsum> i'll tell you if you run dpkg -l | grep libncurses5 for me
[04:32] <elwood> bhearsum,  ii  libncurses5    5.4-4          Shared libraries for terminal handling
[04:33] <bhearsum> thank you.
[04:33] <catfox> any ideas how to do that?
[04:33] <bhearsum> Carpe_Libertatem: i prefer irssi
[04:33] <setite> yea i want to see this irssi
[04:33] <setite> i like xchat but it sorta broke on me
[04:34] <setite> where do i get
[04:34] <setite> sudo bla irssi didnt work... shoudl i check synap
[04:34] <brunolima> deFrysk, hmm like i just make a iptables file rule and i'd like to start with my ubuntu like a service
[04:34] <catfox> anybody know how to create a 3 person chat in gaim?
[04:34] <setite> ok found
[04:34] <kevin06> I installed vsFTPd, yet my /etc/vsftpd.user_list is nowhere to be found. Could someon please provide me the syntax for that fiel?
[04:34] <setite> you use irssi-text?
[04:35] <kevin06> Wow, typing skills suck today.
[04:35] <setite> ya they do
[04:35] <bhearsum> elwood: one more question, 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2.6'
[04:35] <setite> omg irssi is ugly
[04:35] <setite> this is like something i would use if i didnt have kde
[04:35] <brunolima> deFrysk, understood ?
[04:35] <bhearsum> setite: its extremely functional, and can be run in screen
[04:36] <bhearsum> setite: i run it on a remote shell inside of a screen session
[04:36] <setite> well ill run-in-window
[04:36] <setite> how do i kill it
[04:37] <setite> how do i run in window... i seem to have forgot
[04:37] <setite> irssi run-in-window ?
[04:37] <pl_ice> how abouts bitchX ;)
[04:38] <elwood> bhearsum,  nothing
[04:38] <setite> i wanna see why my xchat broke
[04:38] <setite> lemme try a proper exit
[04:38] <bhearsum> elwood: hum
[04:38] <DedBobFan> i want to install ubuntu onto a HDD with win xp on it. i have a partition cleared for ubuntu already. I have suse on another HDD, and debian on another HDD. i want to have everything available from one boot loader. can anyone suggest how i would do this?
[04:40] <DedBobFan> no takers huh?
[04:41] <mercurus> DedBobFan: well ...
[04:41] <setite> ok this is stupid
[04:41] <setite> why did they make the register thing anyway
[04:41] <setite> for auto-rejoin?
[04:41] <setite> yea i need a new client... because in the few horus ive had xchat it stopped autoidentifying
[04:42] <mercurus> DedBobFan: install a boot loader onto one of them ... configure it for all OSes, and then set your BIOS to boot from that drive
[04:42] <setite> i think its just joining ubuntu too fast... can i make it delay somehow
[04:42] <DedBobFan> does it matter that the 2 linux drives were installed to MBR on each drive?
[04:43] <mercurus> DedBobFan: so each Distro has a bootloader on its drive's MBR ?
[04:43] <DedBobFan> yes
[04:43] <DedBobFan> i think so, no other HDD were on the system when i did the installs
[04:43] <mercurus> ideally, clean them off ... but otherwise, not really ... just set the timeout to 1 second, and remove other options from those bootloaders
[04:44] <Lever> Jesus, how do I get Azureus working with Firestarter? Firestarter blocks the connections even though I created a rule to permit them...
[04:44] <DedBobFan> mercurus, what do you mean clean them off?
[04:45] <mercurus> DedBobFan: when I first installed linux (redhat 6.1) I had to clean the mbr to boot into windows ...
[04:45] <setite> ok this is bs
[04:45] <setite> stupid
[04:45] <mercurus> fdisk.exe /mbr
[04:45] <DedBobFan> mercurus, that command in linux or win?
[04:46] <MrBear> what does this mean ~$ glxgears
[04:46] <MrBear> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:46] <MrBear> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[04:46] <Lever> Has anybody had that problem with Azureus+Firestarter? Firestarter disregards permission rule and blocks connections?
[04:46] <madicode> setite: ya can't make a script or something so on connect do ya register thing, and then delay, then send the join text, instead of using autojoin?
[04:46] <DedBobFan> mercurus , like fixmbr?
[04:47] <aleitner> is it decided yet what version of xorf will make it into breezy? (or rather if the r300 radeons will be 3d accelerated using the open source driver)?
[04:47] <MrBear> anybody
[04:47] <mercurus> MrBear: it means your glx accelerated driver isn't working ...
[04:47] <aleitner> xorf-xorg
[04:47] <mercurus> DedBobFan: possibly ... I've not heard of fixmbr
[04:47] <setite> god i love linux and how many apps are available at the press of a button
[04:47] <setite> madicode.. yea i may have to try that
[04:47] <MrBear> sorry got dc
[04:48] <setite> xchat was doing the job for about an hour
[04:48] <misieq> hi there! i have problems with starting a graphical session - ~/.xsession-errors says that the system  cannot read ~/.ICEauthority file. it seems i don`t have it. what should i do to generate a new one?
[04:48] <setite> then it stopped working right
[04:48] <MrBear> ~$ glxgears
[04:48] <MrBear> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:48] <MrBear> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[04:48] <setite> i just got bitchx so imma try that
[04:48] <madicode> yeah thats whats I am using
[04:48] <MrBear> what does that mean
[04:48] <madicode> like xchat..
[04:48] <DedBobFan> mercurus, if i were to start from scratch and blow out every drive on here what do you suggest as the install order so every OS is happy? suse,ubuntu,debian,win xp
[04:48] <DedBobFan> 3 HDD
[04:48] <setite> wtf is bitchx a text client too
[04:48] <setite> damnit
[04:48] <setite> why do you people hate gui's so much
[04:49] <setite> haha
[04:49] <pl_ice> setite , yeh , u can get gui , why? couse i use ssh :/
[04:49] <setite> ok getting the "experimental gui"
[04:49] <Renski> Does it matter, as long as win xp goes first?
[04:49] <setite> renski xp first...
[04:49] <madicode> lol
[04:49] <MrBear> can someone help me with this
[04:49] <setite> unless you wanna do some spec ops recovery shit
[04:49] <MrBear> scroll up
[04:50] <setite> ok how do i run the gui
[04:50] <DedBobFan> so i should place xp on a drive first, then i can have my linux, and all will be happy?
[04:50] <Renski> I think so
[04:50] <twibbler> dooglus: are you back ...
[04:50] <Renski> xp first because its a bitch, and wipes the MBR
[04:50] <DedBobFan> figures , microsoft wants to be first
[04:50] <MrBear> hello?
[04:50] <Renski> which screws grub/lilo/whatever
[04:50] <DedBobFan> if i didnt need it for work, i would kill it
[04:51] <misieq> i have a problem with starting a graphical session - ~/.xsession-errors says that the system  cannot read ~/.ICEauthority file. it seems i don`t have it. what should i do to generate a new one?
[04:51] <madicode> MrBear, have ya go Load "DRI" in your xorg.conf?
[04:51] <setite> ok bitchx... what is the deal.... forget this... man linux is evil with the irc....
[04:52] <mercurus> yeah, WinXP first, then whatever ... just make sure that the final install puts a bootloader on the mbr
[04:52] <thrush_2> misieq, you get that error when typing gdm at console?
[04:52] <setite> you cna install it later... but its best to install first
[04:52] <mercurus> and make sure that install is the one you use most ...
[04:52] <madicode> lol, i love xchat.  hate the text irc clients
[04:52] <Hoxzer> any ideas how can I burn a iso file in ntsf partition if I messed up grup?
[04:52] <setite> windows doesnt have the foresight to predict that people may use more than one OS
[04:52] <setite> madicode... wanna be a pal and make me a script?
[04:52] <setite> hehe
[04:52] <DedBobFan> mercurus, so only the last install has to have boot on MBR, can i tell the earlier installs to NOT mbr
[04:53] <madicode> lol, Im not actually too sure how to do it but..
[04:53] <setite> well i can find the code.. i just need to know where to put the stuff
[04:53] <Renski> DedBobFan: exactly
[04:53] <madicode> load plugin or script in the xchat menu
[04:53] <DedBobFan> sounds good, i appreciate everyones help. cheers !
[04:54] <misieq> thrush_2: my ubuntu starts gdm, where i type my username and pw... when i hit enter, it does nothing but return to gdm with messagebox saying that my session lasted less than 10 secs, and ~/.xsession-errors says i don't have ~/.ICEauthority file
[04:54] <MrBear> madicode right now when I gedit my xorg conf its blank
[04:54] <setite> ok i may have this figured out
[04:54] <MrBear> and yes I have
[04:55] <thrush_2> misieq, using samba?
[04:55] <mercurus> setite: there is a gtkBitchX client ...
[04:55] <misieq> thrush_2: i think yes...
[04:55] <radbat> hi all! im new to ubunto (but not to debian), and I wonder if i should go for the 5.10 preview or the latest stable version? the plan is to install it to my dell x1 notebook right now... any thoughts?
[04:55] <pl_ice> anyone uses gammu ? :>
[04:55] <setite> well i grabbed the bitchx-gtk package
[04:55] <setite> but i dont know
[04:55] <MrBear> i think I screwed it up now
[04:56] <setite> lemme try your way
[04:56] <madicode> MrBear, blank?  that don't sound right :)
[04:56] <setite> nope
[04:56] <setite> i dunno
[04:56] <setite> bitchx just wants to run in the term
[04:56] <misieq> thrush_2: can i simply copy the file from root account?
[04:56] <setite> brb
[04:56] <mercurus> radbat: if you can wait until Oct 13 ... install the latest stable version - which will be Breezy
[04:57] <mercurus> otherwise, if you're comfortable fixing potentially broken software - use Breezy preview ...
[04:57] <setite> fuck that didnt work
[04:57] <ThePyromaniac> So nobody knows how I can get World of Warcraft working on AMD 64 Ubuntu?
[04:57] <MrBear> I got a backup how do I restore it
[04:57] <setite> i tired to make it join kubuntu 20 times first
[04:57] <setite> haha
[04:57] <setite> pyro can you get p2p installed
[04:58] <madicode> MrBear, just cp it to to the original .. (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[04:58] <setite> tell me how to do that and i can check transgaming.com since im a member to figure it out
[04:58] <radbat> mercurus: the problem is that i have no choice but to install it today.. should i still go for the latest stable or is it worth the effort to go with the preview?
[04:58] <Myrtti> take the stable
[04:58] <mercurus> radbat: since you're asking the question, I'd say the best option is to take the stable version - Hoary
[04:58] <Myrtti> thats my opinin
[04:58] <setite> i followed that wiki but i cant find where to change the export to use 32bit libs
[04:58] <Myrtti> +o
[04:59] <MrBear> dammit its still blank
[04:59] <radbat> what would i loose by going with the latest stable version?
[04:59] <mercurus> radbat: nothing ... it is the current stable version
[04:59] <MrBear> wtf
[05:00] <setite> ooh i found a script on the xchat site
[05:00] <mercurus> you can update it to Breezy after October 13 quite easilt
[05:00] <mercurus> *easily
[05:00] <setite> damn i feel stupid
[05:00] <madicode> MrBear, type:    sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:00] <MrBear> did that
[05:00] <setite> you need a script since xchat blindly identifies prior to the challenge whihc apparently doenst work unless the server is slow
[05:00] <MrBear> I have gedit open no text though
[05:00] <misieq> thrush_2: are you there?
[05:00] <madicode> oh ok..
[05:00] <setite> ooh there is a script just for freenode
[05:00] <setite> hehe
[05:01] <madicode> lol
[05:01] <mercurus> MrBear: what is the output of: file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:01] <radbat> mercurus: ok, that settles it then.. thanks..
[05:01] <mercurus> radbat: no worries, enjoy :)
[05:01] <MrBear> nothing
[05:01] <thrush_2> misieq, try putting this at bottom of /etc/security/pam_env.conf.    ICEAUTHORITY DEFAULT=/tmp/.@{PAM_USER}_ICEauthorit
[05:01] <MrBear> right now I have 3 the backup one with a bunch of numbers after it and the orginal one
[05:02] <mercurus> MrBear: `file` should give output ...
[05:02] <x-pert> hey
[05:02] <thrush_2> misieq, that last part should be ICEauthority
[05:02] <madicode> MrBear,  is your backup ones blank also?
[05:02] <MrBear> must be
[05:02] <MrBear> so what do I do now
[05:02] <madicode> what graphics card you running?
[05:02] <mercurus> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg
[05:02] <x-pert> i have a portable computer with linux (ubuntu) and i want to receive a wireless internet connection from my router, with a PCMCIA card. The router is a linksys wrk54g. i believe that the driver is properly installed (ndiswrapper)but i still cant get the internet when i do dhclient3 wlan0 it appears unknown hardware type 776, and in the end no DHCP offers received and no working leases in persisting database-sleeping. also when i do iwlist 
[05:02] <MrBear> at aiw 9800pro
[05:03] <pluffsy> hello
[05:03] <x-pert> can anyone help me pliz?
[05:03] <mercurus> x-pert: some of that last text got lost ... but, does the output from iwconfig wlan0 indicate that you're associated with the AP ?
[05:04] <MrBear> I am going to have to reinstall ubuntu
[05:04] <mercurus> MrBear: no ... you wont
[05:04] <MrBear> yes cause it just said there is no such option --reconfigure
[05:04] <pluffsy> I'm trying to install ubuntu (the 5.10 preview) on a powerbook g3 lombard. I've tried holding down option as well as c but I can't seem to boot from the cd.
[05:04] <x-pert>  does the output from iwconfig wlan0 indicate that you're associated with the AP ? it appears 00:00:00:00:00:00
[05:04] <pluffsy> any idea of what to do?
[05:05] <x-pert> plufsy queue please
[05:05] <mercurus> MrBear: ok, have a look under /usr/share/ for an xorg doc directory, with a samples directory
[05:05] <mercurus> MrBear:  or run XCOnfigure etc.
[05:05] <setite> man i miss windows at times liek this
[05:05] <setite> ill give up though.. this isnt that important
[05:05] <setite> it is damned annoying though
[05:05] <mercurus> x-pert: ok, you're not associated with the AP ... which is why you can't get a lease from the DHCPd
[05:06] <x-pert> mercurus so how can i correct that?
[05:06] <mercurus> x-pert: with my driver (ipw2200) I simply remove the kernel module and re-insert it ...
[05:06] <MrBear> there is so samples directory
[05:06] <mercurus> but, it may indicate that ndiswrapper isn't working correctly
[05:06] <x-pert> but so what do i d?
[05:06] <x-pert> but so what do i do?
[05:07] <mercurus> MrBear: is this Hoary or Breezy Preview ?
[05:07] <MrBear> breezy
[05:07] <x-pert> the same problem keeps appearing...i have even reinstalled ubuntu and done everything again...the same problem remanains...
[05:07] <MrBear> only reason I went to breezy is casue hoary alsamixer dont even load
[05:07] <mercurus> x-pert: what does dmesg have to say about ndiswrapper and your kernel module for this card ? what is the card ?
[05:07] <MrBear> sound works great but now video is not working
[05:07] <ThePyromaniac> if i change ububtu to use the 32 bit libs, will wine work for me?
[05:07] <MrBear> 3d worked great on hoary
[05:08] <MrBear> grrrrr I cant win
[05:08] <mercurus> MrBear: how did you try and install the accelerated drivers ?
[05:08] <MrBear> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:09] <mercurus> hmm ... and apt completed ok ?
[05:09] <MrBear> yes
[05:09] <MrBear> its my config thats screwed up
[05:09] <ThePyromaniac> nobody will help me get warcraft running :(
[05:10] <mercurus> MrBear: so the file exists, but is empty and all backups are also empty ?
[05:10] <MrBear> seems like it
[05:10] <MrBear> and reconfigure dont work either now
[05:10] <mercurus> ls -lA /etc/X11/ |grep xorg.conf ?
[05:11] <Volen_Siderov> is there a way to mount NTFS
[05:11] <Volen_Siderov> and
[05:11] <MrBear> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  3340 2005-09-12 10:58 xorg.conf
[05:11] <MrBear> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  3340 2005-09-12 04:34 xorg.conf~
[05:11] <MrBear> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  2499 2005-09-12 10:43 xorg.conf.200509121043
[05:11] <MrBear> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  3340 2005-09-12 10:15 xorg.conf-old
[05:11] <MrBear> see too many
[05:11] <Volen_Siderov> NTFS mount with cyrillic folders (cp1251) howto mount ???
[05:12] <Volen_Siderov> with cyrillic support
[05:12] <mercurus> MrBear: yeah, that's fine ... but 3 are the same file ... and none of them are 0 bytes ... they all contain data
[05:12] <Volen_Siderov> ?
[05:12] <mercurus> 3340 bytes, and 2499 bytes
[05:12] <MrBear> so why dont it show up in gedit
[05:12] <mercurus> good question ...
[05:12] <madicode> try vi? or different editor?
[05:13] <mercurus> you're running: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.config
[05:13] <mercurus> -ig
[05:13] <setite> i prefer gedit over vi
[05:13] <setite> but thats because its easier for me to use...
[05:13] <MrBear> ok
[05:13] <MrBear> wait a sec which one I open
[05:13] <setite> vi is a god as it has saved me many times when i bugger my xorg.conf
[05:13] <mercurus> setite: that's a can of worms ... don't go there :)
[05:13] <mercurus> MrBear: you open xorg.conf
[05:13] <setite> hey i give vi its due.. .it serves a purpose.....
[05:13] <x-pert> the card version is WPC54G. in dmesg it appears: using irq 11; wlan0 ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:12:17:b6:43:e6 user driver lsbcmnds; wlan: encrytation modes supported:WEP; wlan0 no ipv6 routers present
[05:14] <MrBear> in vi its still blank
[05:14] <mercurus> the others are all backups, the current, active file is xorg.conf
[05:14] <mercurus> MrBear: ok ... exit vi
[05:14] <setite> MrBear, its .conf
[05:14] <setite> if you type the filename wrong you wont get hsit but a new blank file
[05:15] <mercurus> MrBear: can you cat the file ..?
[05:15] <setite> whats cat? when you TAB it to finish the name?
[05:15] <MrBear> I got it now yay words
[05:15] <mercurus> eg. cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:15] <setite> i love that feature...
[05:15] <setite> oh.. .that
[05:15] <setite> what is cat... it does more than i though
[05:15] <x-pert> maybe the problem is that the linux has ipv6 support and the router supports ipv4 only
[05:15] <x-pert> mercurus?
[05:15] <setite> !ipv6
[05:15] <ubotu> setite: Are you smoking crack?
[05:16] <mercurus> setite: concatenation ... types out the contents of files to terminal
[05:16] <mercurus> x-pert: no ... linux will use ipv4 by default ...
[05:17] <mercurus> x-pert: ok, what does iwconfig wlan0 show now ? does it have the correct MAC address ?
[05:17] <MrBear> so what do I do noe
[05:17] <x-pert> but it appeared this: ipv6 over ipv4 tunelling driver
[05:17] <x-pert> i cnat see any mac adress
[05:17] <mercurus> MrBear: can you copy and paste exactly what you've typed to open gedit ?
[05:18] <MrBear> I used vi
[05:18] <mercurus> MrBear: can you copy and paste exactly what you typed to open gedit ?
[05:18] <tmorton> Can someone run this command for me? objdump -x /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4|grep SONAME
[05:18] <setite> hey who knows what Volen_Siderov is talking about.. he's having trouble viewing folders on his ntfs partition wiht cryllic names... or cp1251 or somethign i dont know about
[05:18] <MrBear> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:19] <setite> it is xorg or Xorg?
[05:19] <MrBear> hmm good point
[05:19] <mercurus> setite: the file is all lowercase ...
[05:19] <setite> i forget what files screw with you by deciding the casing
[05:19] <setite> ok thanks mercurus
[05:19] <x-pert> mercurus?
[05:19] <setite> oh yea that was freebsd that did that case thing to me
[05:20] <mercurus> MrBear: it sounds like driver error from here ... ie. all the pieces are in place ...
[05:20] <setite> is there anywhere to change character coding
[05:20] <mercurus> I can't explain why none of the editors you're using can't open the file ...
[05:20] <pussfeller> if i buy a new mobo and stick it in, will my ubuntu install still work
[05:20] <beekay> where are downloaded things in xchat saved to
[05:20] <setite> because Volen_Siderov cant view his cryllic folders on his ntfs partition
[05:20] <MrBear> vi opened it properly
[05:20] <pussfeller> or do i gotta mess with it
[05:21] <x-pert> mercurus any suggestion?
[05:21] <mercurus> setite: all UNIX-derivatives are case-sensitive ...
[05:21] <mercurus> x-pert: use a native linux driver if one is available ...
[05:21] <kevin06> I am installing Ravencore, and by default it looks for BIND in /var/named since it is Red Hat Based. What is the path to BIND for Ubuntu?
[05:21] <setite> mercurus, i meant that freebsd decided to add the X instead of x to the xorg.. which gave me lots of trouble
[05:21] <madicode> beekay,  by default to a .xchat dir in your home directory (changable in the prefs)
[05:21] <mercurus> beekay: check your XChat Settings ... by default it is ~/.xchat2/Downlaods
[05:21] <x-pert> i am using ubuntu, i didnt even select the driver....
[05:21] <mlopes> hi. i'm using breezy. openoffice.org 2 is not using the english dictionaries. default installation. any ideas why? (openoffice2-l10n-en is installed though)
[05:22] <setite> i eventually said screw it because the freebsd amd64 6.0 beta4 has a fault nve driver
[05:22] <madicode> anyway i am off peoples. cyas
[05:22] <pluffsy> is there some way I can check if a ubuntu cd I've made really is bootable? I can't get it to boot on my powerbook g3.
[05:22] <mercurus> kevin06: bind isn't a part of the default Ubuntu install ...
[05:22] <MrBear> how do I reinstall drivers
[05:23] <beekay> ty
[05:24] <markuman> hi, i test to install arch linux. but the grub loader does not entered ubuntu. now i want do mount die ubuntu parition /dev/hda3 with knoppix, but it don' t work. unknown filetype
[05:24] <setite> Volen_Siderov, i think the answer is this "sudo mount -o remount,nls=cp1251 /mnt/your_windows_mount_point"
[05:25] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[05:25] <Trackilizer> Are there any good IRC clients for Gnome other that x-chat.
[05:26] <Trackilizer> It doen't have to look good.
[05:26] <Trackilizer> Just as long as it's fast.
[05:26] <beekay> is there any reason why my mplayer and totem cant play .mpg files
[05:26] <linuxsbartley> If one wanted to install a server system w/ xfce and xdm, would the following package set be correct for 5.10?:  xorg-common, xserver-common, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg, xutils, x-window-system-core, xfce4, synaptic & xdm?
[05:26] <x-pert> mercurus ??
[05:27] <Sonderblade> can you install kde on ubuntu and have it coexist nicely with gnome without having to go through hoops?
[05:28] <digitize> Sonderblade: sure, why not?
[05:28] <TommyH> Hi, how can I change the colour depth in Hoary? For some bizarre reason it's switched itself to 16-bit. :-/
[05:29] <digitize> TommyH: either by edit: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <Sonderblade> digitize: because its unsupported?
[05:29] <setite> i cant figure out linux file hierarchy
[05:29] <setite> i miss the program files folder
[05:29] <digitize> Sonderblade: i installed xfce quite fine
[05:29] <setite> where is the doom3 demo... i need to see if i can force my resolution
[05:29] <TommyH> No, it is supported... it's been working fine in 24-bit colour for weeks.
[05:29] <kevin06> mercurus, I know. I have installed BIND
[05:29] <digitize> TommyH: he's speaking of something else
[05:29] <x-pert> how can i change the support from ipv6 to ipv4
[05:30] <digitize> linuxsbartley: doesn't ubuntu come with synaptic by default?
[05:30] <Sonderblade> digitize: thanks lets see what happens...
[05:30] <digitize> and all the xorg components
[05:30] <markuman> how can i repair the "Superblock" from my ext3 partition
[05:30] <digitize> Sonderblade: i installed xfce, went back to gdm, and it was there
[05:31] <digitize> i don't think you'll have any problems
[05:31] <linuxsbartley> digitize, the full install does, but the server install you have to do so manually.
[05:31] <x-pert> lol
[05:31] <x-pert> cant anyone help?
[05:31] <digitize> linuxsbartley: ah ok
[05:31] <digitize> x-pert: little more specific, not sure i understand
[05:31] <x-pert> i have a portable computer with linux (ubuntu) and i want to receive a wireless internet connection from my router, with a PCMCIA card. The router is a linksys wrk54g. i believe that the driver is properly installed (ndiswrapper)but i still cant get the internet when i do dhclient3 wlan0 it appears unknown hardware type 776, and in the end no DHCP offers received and no working leases in persisting database-sleeping. also when i do iwlist 
[05:32] <kevin06> x-pert, Mercurus quit as soon as he sent his mesage, a fact I wasn't aware of until just now. :-p
[05:32] <x-pert> the card version is WPC54G. in dmesg it appears: using irq 11; wlan0 ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:12:17:b6:43:e6 user driver lsbcmnds; wlan: encrytation modes supported:WEP; wlan0 no ipv6 routers present
[05:33] <markuman> how to check my hda3?
[05:33] <darkheart_> Hmm..Why might a launcher button on my gnome-panel give me an error stating it can't find an icon when it is there?
[05:33] <x-pert> and it appears too: ipv6 over ipv4 tunelling driver
[05:33] <x-pert> and the router supports ipv4
[05:33] <x-pert> its address is 192.168.1.1
[05:33] <kevin06> When I install the BIND package (either 8 or 9) where is the bind binary located?
[05:34] <pl_ice> x-pert ndiswrapper -l
[05:34] <x-pert> pl_ice the driver is fine
[05:34] <x-pert> driver present, hardware present
[05:34] <Seveas> kevin06, dpkg -L bind9
[05:34] <x-pert> the problem is almost surely the ipv6 support
[05:34] <Seveas> probably /usr/bin/named
[05:35] <x-pert> or the configuration of the router, but i think it is the ip support
[05:35] <pl_ice> how about iwconfig? couse i installed not long ago driver for my, form a cd, but it didn't worked, have u looked @ forum?
[05:35] <kafeine> hmm
[05:35] <kafeine> i can't seem to burn any cds/dvds
[05:36] <kevin06> Seveas, Thanks again!
[05:36] <x-pert> pl_ice i also installed from the ubuntu cd... no i havent looked on the forum...can u tell me the link?
[05:37] <pl_ice> www.ubunforums.org i believe that each language has it's own forum
[05:37] <pl_ice> it could be ur driver, my box said it's ok, yet i could not connect, it was static
[05:37] <x-pert> yea, but the exact thread
[05:38] <pl_ice> x-pert u being lazy :/
[05:38] <x-pert> ok ok
[05:38] <x-pert> i will search
[05:38] <x-pert> but i mean
[05:38] <x-pert> i have already searched there
[05:39] <x-pert> and i found nothing helful
[05:39] <x-pert> maybe i need to search better
[05:39] <x-pert> if u told me the exact thread
[05:39] <x-pert> it will be good
[05:39] <pl_ice> what card is it?
[05:39] <x-pert> wpc54g
[05:40] <pl_ice> anyone flashed iPOD before?
[05:40] <x-pert> ...
[05:41] <cusco> hello! I had bee trying to help x-pert. here's the thing: the card is working and configured with ifconfig and/or iwconfig
[05:41] <pl_ice> x-pert i have to say, u're lazy
[05:41] <dr_strangelove> does totem with gstreamer backend  from breezy work for you (with dvd menus)?
[05:41] <Answer> Hello Wolrd
[05:41] <pl_ice> x-pert http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645&highlight=wpc54g
[05:42] <cusco> altho when iwlist wlan0 scan
[05:42] <pl_ice> for example
[05:42] <cusco> no scan results are found
[05:42] <cusco> if he triggers dhclient3 wlan0
[05:42] <Answer> Question: We have several ubuntu computers running in our office, is there a way to setup a central repository for Synaptic?
[05:42] <cusco> no dhcp offers are made
[05:42] <pl_ice> Apple sux, does't have my language...
[05:42] <cusco> is something between the card and the router
[05:43] <pl_ice> Answer , yeh there is
[05:43] <pl_ice> i've seen it on www.ubuntuforums.org , mind u haven't tried that far myself
[05:43] <Answer> pl_ice: more details please
[05:44] <MarkAngels> Hi, does Gnomebaker know if my DVD disc is RW? I don't want it to be closed since I want to write to it again
[05:44] <pl_ice> Answer , search on www.ubuntuforums.org there is a HOWTO
[05:44] <ReiKn> hi. is there a way I could change the default character encoding of gnome-terminal?
[05:44] <gorilla> Answer, you could try an apt-proxy that will check if it has the ubunt package on disk, otherwise fecth it from the net.
[05:45] <Answer> gorilla: apt-proxy sound promising, on disk u mean on an intranet fileserv ?
[05:45] <vbgunz> hey for all those, if you change your resolution, but your monitor blacks out, don't worry, it'll revert...
[05:45] <FhaeTon> is there another chat area for ubuntu about games?
[05:45] <ReiKn> only gnome-terminal because I wan't to keep my system UTF-8 but I have to connect to ISO-8859-1 server frequently from terminal...
[05:45] <vbgunz> does anyone know of a Roboform type form filler for Ubuntu?
[05:47] <pl_ice> guys, i got problem with kynaptic, tried to update packages, and it getting stuck
[05:48] <vbgunz> you're on Breezy?
[05:48] <vbgunz> on Wireless?
[05:48] <gorilla> Answer, I mean local disk to the apt-proxy... I think apt-proxy is in the hoary repository..universe I think..
[05:48] <pl_ice> yeh, i bloody unloced .deb respo, i think i actually recovered, but when i tried to install lib6 new ver. it crashed 100 cpu
[05:49] <pl_ice> tried to get kxdocker
[05:49] <tristanmike> Can somebody help me with an America's Army issue?
[05:49] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2106
[05:49] <reiki_work> I had an issue this morning with update manager. It showed me an update was available (for mysql) and it downloaded, installed, and appeared to update. Then it popped an alert box that siad updatemanager has failed with error 222 child process terminated. So I'll have to wait till I get home to see if it broke anything
[05:50] <tristanmike> It's the only game I play :'(
[05:51] <pl_ice> seems to be fixed, hey what's the sable kernel in ubuntu respos now?
[05:51] <vbgunz> Americas Army plays better on Ubuntu than on Windows or is it about the same?
[05:51] <pl_ice> i know new one is out, but kynaptic won't find
[05:51] <tristanmike> vbgunz, just behind in version, I love it
[05:52] <linuxsbartley> ok.  5.04 xdm worked.  Tried install of 5.10beta again w/ xdm and xfce.   Rebooted system.  Tries to launch xdm gui auth screen then goes away and drops me to Alt-F8 w/ last line "Starting X display manager: xdm"
[05:52] <vbgunz> not sure, pl
[05:52] <linuxsbartley> Xorg.0.log shows many font renderer warnings and an error regarding font path unix/:7100 not init'd so it removed from list.
[05:52] <vbgunz> go to kernel.org or something like that, it'll you stable, etc there
[05:52] <pl_ice> vbgunz yeh, i don't want to compile it ;)
[05:52] <vbgunz> latest stable is 2.6.13.1
[05:53] <vbgunz> according to kernel.org
[05:53] <pl_ice> hm, i'm stuck with 2.6.10 and security updates won't find new one
[05:53] <hypershock> hey, i discovered that libmodplug0 is missing on breezy, how can i report this?
[05:53] <vbgunz> haven't gotten to the level of compiling kernels yet, I am still a n00ba warrior
[05:53] <NiLz> hi
[05:54] <pitti> pl_ice: Ubuntu's kernels get security updates to 2.6.10, Hoary will not get a new upstream version
[05:54] <NiLz> is there sun java sdk/jre available as .deb on any repo?
[05:54] <vbgunz> yeah I need to report the help file link is broken on the disk manager
[05:54] <gorilla> vbgunz, you aren't missing much :-)
[05:54] <vbgunz> can anyone confirm this on Brezy?
[05:54] <linuxsbartley> anyone using xdm on 5.10?
[05:54] <pl_ice> NiLz ,yeh
[05:54] <vbgunz> learning...
[05:55] <NiLz> pl_ice: backports?
[05:55] <vbgunz> btw, I haven't checked but can I download the entire Ubuntu Wiki?
[05:55] <pl_ice> pitti , so do i wait for the new ubuntu release?...not sure
[05:55] <vbgunz> I am trying to avoid backports but they can be enabled, not sure of the address, if no one knows, the wiki does I believe
[05:55] <tristanmike> :(
[05:55] <pitti> pl_ice: I don't know either whether you wait :-)
[05:56] <pitti> pl_ice: the Warty and Hoary kernels will continue to get security updates, but of course no new features
[05:56] <pl_ice> pitti ,yeh don't care about new stuff, just patches ;)
[05:56] <pl_ice> NiLz , i think b.ports enable them from /et/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <pl_ice> hm, anyone got iPod ? that thing doesn't support my language...
[05:58] <FhaeTon> Hey which is better KDE or Gnome?
[05:59] <vbgunz> in opinion, Gnome
[05:59] <mjr> FhaeTon, which is better, flamefest or -war?
[05:59] <tristanmike> all opinion
[05:59] <vbgunz> haha yeah
[05:59] <Kyral> Seriously
[05:59] <uthini> i just don't like nautilus
[05:59] <vbgunz> you want fire with that?
[05:59] <Kyral> anyone that asks that question should be kicked
[05:59] <Kyral> and then banned
[05:59] <FhaeTon> tsorry im a newb
[05:59] <mjr> anyway, my arrogant opinion: Gnome for people who want to use their boxes, KDE for people who want to tune their boxes
[06:00] <vbgunz> nah everyone has an opinion
[06:00] <tristanmike> it's ok
[06:00] <linuxsbartley> System boot shows "Setting up general console font...              t_kernel_font: Invalid argument               [fail] "  on 5.10beta.  Any ideas?
[06:00] <mjr> but I shan't go into details ;)
[06:00] <Kyral> FhaeTon, its one of the Great Holy Wars in the Linux/Unix world
[06:00] <FhaeTon> ti did not know
[06:00] <Kyral> and before you ask, stay outta VI vs. EMACS :P
[06:00] <FhaeTon> I thought one did sometyhing different
[06:01] <vbgunz> I tried Suse, Knoppix and was very close to using Fedora... I din't like them because the interfaces were extremely cluttered... I mean it makes no sense to have 43 text editors... Unless I am missing something?
[06:01] <Kyral> sokay, just warning you :P
[06:01] <Hoxzer> is it possible to burn linux distro from ntfs partition with ubuntu live CD?
[06:01] <Kyral> you mean an ISO Image?
[06:02] <pl_ice> vbgunz i agree :) used fedora c. tried suse, it's unfriendly
[06:02] <vbgunz> Ubuntu and Gnome are simple... Very to the point, extremely easier learning curb Vs the others. Though i understand it can get as mean as you know how to breed it...
[06:03] <vbgunz> one sec fellas...
[06:03] <NiLz> pl_ice: do u know if b.ports has any mirrors in eu
[06:03] <NiLz> pl_ice: or is it just one available?
[06:03] <pl_ice> NiLz ,there are couple
[06:04] <kafeine>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[06:04] <kafeine> this is what i get from $ hdparm /dev/hdc
[06:04] <kafeine> any ideas?
[06:04] <kafeine> please?
[06:05] <vbgunz> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47 <-- Backport Ubuntu Forum
[06:05] <vbgunz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291 <--- Getting started with backports
[06:06] <vbgunz> google.com/search?q=ubuntu+backport
[06:07] <vbgunz> anyone here know how to remove the minimize, maximize effect?
[06:08] <vbgunz> I would just like if it disappeared off screen on minimize and just reappeared on max... anyway to remove the effect?
[06:09] <tristanmike> vbgunz, that
[06:10] <tristanmike> vbgunz, that's a product of "metacity" the window manager
[06:10] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt in breezy???
[06:10] <tristanmike> vbgunz, if you mean the lines
[06:10] <vbgunz> yeah, it is sort of like an outline of the window...
[06:11] <vbgunz> do I have to use the configuration editor to change that?
[06:11] <tristanmike> vbgunz, yeah, that's a metacity issue, no real way to get rid of it aside from changing window managers
[06:11] <tristanmike> vbgunz, that i've seen anyway
[06:12] <punkass> you can use gconf and set a flag to you less resources...but then the window gets real ugly when you drag it
[06:12] <punkass> you = use
[06:12] <Jowi> hello everyone
[06:12] <tristanmike> vbgunz, that's the other way, but it looks WAY more ugly than the lines
[06:13] <punkass> vbgunz: /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[06:13] <punkass> and yeah it looks a lot worse
[06:13] <Quinthius> vbgunz: you can use a different window manager from within gnome, metacity is pretty limited anyway
[06:14] <tristanmike>  vbgunz, alot of people like "enlightenment" or "e16" in the repos
[06:14] <Quinthius> vbgunz: some metacity-specific configuration interfaces prolly wont work anymore (like keybindings, window focus options), but everything else should work fine
[06:15] <vbgunz> its running great... Just thought I could remove some effects... make it appear to run faster by tricking the eye by removing effects, etc
[06:15] <vbgunz> I heard enlightments was supposed to be the fastest option... what is enlightment? I think i saw some comparisons once, I lost the link
[06:16] <Answer> vbgunz: google: enlightenment
[06:16] <Quinthius> fluxbox is also popular "minimalist yet configurable" option i believe
[06:17] <vbgunz> I love the Gnome interface... It is very subtle and reminds of Windows... I feel really good migrating with Gnome
[06:17] <Quinthius> vbgunz: the gnome interface will remain
[06:17] <Answer> vbgunz: don't insult gnome by mentioning it with windows :/
[06:17] <Quinthius> vbgunz: the panels, desktop icons, nautilus browsing... you can keep all that
[06:17] <linuxsbartley> Can anyone tell me what package provides the adobe-helvetica font set?
[06:18] <vbgunz> im cool, thanks fellas, at the moment what I really need is a friend whom I can invite over to see him work on Ubuntu ;)
[06:19] <vbgunz> surprise me :D
[06:19] <Quinthius> hehe
[06:19] <Benix> hi
[06:20] <Answer> linuxsbartley: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/X11_fonts.html
[06:20] <Benix> does ubuntu offer me a comparable security like debian does?
[06:20] <vbgunz> i found the enlightment site... I don't wish to switch to something else. I like Gnome... Just got on Linux and already wish to tweak it. I best calm down and learn the basics, sheesh...
[06:21] <reter> i switched from hoary to breezy. i am trying to upgrade the files but i always get all these error messages...i dont even understand it
[06:21] <ompaul> Benix, the only test I have seen was good on that scale
[06:21] <Answer> vbgunz: the most popular gnome alternative is kde.  you might like it better.  see: kubuntu
[06:21] <reter> what can i do?
[06:21] <Quinthius> Answer: that's not just a window manager tho :P
[06:21] <Benix> ompaul: ok, but how can ubuntu offer a stable and secure system when there are very short testing phases?
[06:22] <Benix> I don't think that ubuntu has as many developers like debian has
[06:22] <Benix> if i am wrong, correct me, please
[06:22] <Quinthius> Benix: you know ubuntu is basically debian at heart right? :P
[06:22] <SymGeosis> Benix, no way.
[06:22] <Benix> Quinthius: yes
[06:22] <Quinthius> Benix: they dont need to do as much testing for a lot of things because it's already done by the debian people
[06:22] <SymGeosis> Benix, misread your question.
[06:22] <vbgunz> thanks Answer, but I need to stay stuck with Ubuntu :) I tried others and others and finally admit that Ubuntu is right up my alley... It is to the point and very easy to get comfortable with... Thanks though! I will keep it in mind once I learn enough and feel at home
[06:22] <SymGeosis> Benix, nevermind me.
[06:22] <Benix> SymGeosis: :)
[06:23] <Answer> vbgunz: Customizing GNOME http://www.gnome.org/learn/intro/2.2/ar01s07.html
[06:23] <vbgunz> thanks Answer
[06:24] <vbgunz> bookmarked it, it is a must see site for me. Thanks again!
[06:24] <evian> hi
[06:25] <Benix> Quinthius: So ubuntu combines the stability of debian with top actual stuff like xorg, openoffice... gcc4 qt4.. but aren't especially this parts the most important thinks which decide if a system is safe and stable? gcc4 was working on ubuntu very fast.. Isn't it rational to assume that ubuntu cheats a bit?
[06:25] <linuxsbartley> Answer, I am unclear on how that tells me the .deb package for the helvetica font to be provided.
[06:25] <evian> Please kind folks, how do I get my launcher panel off the side of the screen and back at the top?
[06:25] <vbgunz> Benix, are you really efficient with programming on Linux?
[06:25] <SymGeosis> evian, just click and drag it.
[06:25] <rob_p> Wow!  Turned on my PC and suddenly, 51 updates available!  Hmmm!
[06:26] <humulus> update everythin :)
[06:26] <vbgunz> thats nothing, restart and they're probably be more
[06:26] <Benix> vbgunz: ah, so ubuntu has another target of users like debian has.. I understand
[06:26] <GabrielMedina> hi, how do I install ATI driver (fglrx) on ubuntu 5.04? I've tried so many ways...
[06:26] <evian> SymGeosis, if I click it, it launches something or opens a menu, there aren't any free spaces to grab
[06:26] <rob_p> :-)
[06:26] <SymGeosis> evian, click it where there isn't an icon/applet. =)
[06:26] <vbgunz> I am new to ubuntu, by far I am no master like some...
[06:27] <vbgunz> I am uban00ba
[06:27] <GabrielMedina> hi, how do I install ATI driver (fglrx) on ubuntu 5.04? I've tried so many ways...anyone?
[06:27] <Benix> vbgunz: but now I can understand why there are so many users of ubuntu and also so many criticans
[06:27] <evian> SymGeosis: that is the problem, there isn't anywhere like that!
[06:27] <SymGeosis> GabrielMedina, have you given the wiki a look? It offers some good guidance.
[06:27] <Jowi> ubotu, tell GabrielMedina about ati
[06:27] <vbgunz> you ever heard of K.I.S.S.?
[06:28] <SymGeosis> evian, just a sec...
[06:28] <Jowi> GabrielMedina: try the link ubotu provided :-(
[06:28] <vbgunz> I believe Ubuntu follows that and people see that. In opinion, I think Ubuntu is probably one of the most straight to the point OS's. I've only tried about 3 before settling here...
[06:28] <Jowi> GabrielMedina: :-( = :-)
[06:28] <Jowi> type
[06:28] <Quinthius> Benix: as far as i know, ubuntu is basically debian with desktop/ease of use modifications. some of the "new" stuff may introduce unforseen security issues, but i doubt the ubuntu team intentionally sacrifices security
[06:28] <Jowi> typo
[06:28] <Jowi> argh
[06:28] <ompaul> Benix, lets look at platforms, a lot less, developers very good, if I have to start naming names you will think I am naming a lot of Debian developers :) - wrt packages end game material a good platform that is drawing attention to Linux, debian does not try to state that it is something like ubuntu, and come to think of it ubuntu does not claim to be debian, so where is the issue
[06:29] <evian> SymGeosis, thanks. I guess I could delete stuff and try to put it back later, but I don't know where to find the icons later, yet
[06:29] <pitti> Quinthius: to the contrary, we do our best to improve it
[06:29] <GabrielMedina> Thanks, il take a look
[06:29] <Quinthius> Benix: in other words, i dont think ubuntu is any less secure than a debian system running the newer versions of those kind of packages
[06:29] <Quinthius> pitti: as i would assume :)
[06:29] <pitti> Quinthius: in some regards, a default Ubuntu system is more secure than Debian (no open ports, derooted server processes)
[06:30] <Benix> ok @ Quinthius & ompaul
[06:30] <Quinthius> pitti: but it is a valid question... "is security sacrificed to make ubuntu such a desktop-friendly distro?" ...
[06:30] <pitti> Benix: Ubuntu response time for security updates is quicker than Debian's (on average)
[06:30] <Benix> ubutnu concentrates on only two platforms
[06:30] <pitti> Benix: three
[06:30] <Benix> pitti: yeah, you are right
[06:30] <ompaul> Benix, if you want to port it work away :)
[06:30] <Benix> three, yes ^^
[06:31] <Benix> ompaul: :)
[06:31] <pitti> Quinthius: we don't sacrifice it
[06:31] <robodex> whoa, breezy's final release is close
[06:31] <SymGeosis> evian, that'd be the easiest way I suppose. There are other ways to move it (via gconf IIRC) but I don't remember how to do it.
[06:31] <robodex> I didn't realize how close it was :S
[06:31] <ompaul> robodex, one day less than yesterday :)
[06:31] <SymGeosis> evian, to add stuff back to your panel just right click "add to panel"
[06:31] <robodex> yep
[06:31] <Benix> thanks for the discussion
[06:32] <evian> SymGeosis, thanks. I just removed firefox and that was enough to make some empty space. So that wasn't so bad.
[06:32] <robodex> anyway I'm just idling in here because if my connection's idle for 30 minutes I get booted off campus network. lecture time
[06:32] <Benix> So i like that linux users have the
[06:32] <Benix> .. are able to look what they need ;)
[06:33] <fak3r> what mailing list should I join for Breezy support?  ubuntu-users?
[06:33] <ompaul> fak3r, yeap
[06:34] <fak3r> ompaul thanks
[06:34] <ompaul> Benix, they could always do that, however now it is an easiwer choice :)
[06:34] <Benix> ompaul: hehe
[06:35] <Benix> ompaul: For me its very difficult.. I am using a very powerfull debian-derivat
[06:35] <tristanmike> could someone take a second a give me a hand please?
[06:35] <ompaul> Benix, whatever makes your day
[06:36] <tristanmike> thanx, just what I always needed
[06:36] <tristanmike> now that I have 3 hands, could someone spare a moment to help me
[06:36] <Jowi> tristanmike: just ask, if someone can help they will :-)
[06:37] <ompaul>  /dcc send tristanmike /dev/moment
[06:37] <Masura> Oh, hello everyone.
[06:37] <setite> ok never again will i play a game on linux
[06:37] <setite> playing the doom3 demo proves why linux sucks for gaming...
[06:37] <tristanmike> It's an America's Army issue, won't start anymore, maybe since updates this morning, and I don't know where to start
[06:37] <Answer> robodex: to keep your connection alive, try "ping ubuntu.com -i 600"
[06:37] <sorush20> is there a way I can download the whole of this free book on the internet.. it is in Html.. but there are no direct links to the pages and the chapters of the book.. so searching is what i should do.. here is the site.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=books&doptcmdl=GenBookHL&term=Plasma+Cell+Tumors+AND+cmed6%5Bbook%5D+AND+357227%5Buid%5D&rid=cmed6.section.36578#36580
[06:38] <ompaul> setite, well I did say to you yesterday that this is why you need to give time to complaining to the nice people who make games so that they get made natively
[06:38] <robodex> Answer: that's a good idea, too. but at least I can pop in here when nothing's happening during the lecture :)
[06:38] <setite> i have a amd64 3400+ at 2.75 with a 6800gt and a gig of ocz pc4000 ram... and each time i open a door my fps drops to 10
[06:38] <setite> hey ompaul i tried man... for you i tried
[06:38] <setite> well the performance is an issue too...
[06:39] <setite> i mean iD is being nice and porting games... but damn... i only go 63 fps when i wasnt in action.. thats lame
[06:39] <Answer> sorush20: copy & paste that URL into google, that will give you a link to the page, right click, save as
[06:39] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2106
[06:39] <vbgunz> i tried playing the doom3 to test it's performance once but I never got passed the black screen on games boot...
[06:39] <setite> one day though... and i do complain.. not really.. but whenever i buy a game and register i send a not saying they need a linux version
[06:40] <ompaul> setite, consider the issue abstract the code put it in an emulator and run that on a system of course it will not run as fast as on the machine it was built for
[06:40] <setite> well the game loads nicely... a little slow but not too bad.. and it plays ok./... its just when i open doors that shit lags
[06:40] <vbgunz> any here trying out the Xen Virtual Monitor?
[06:40] <tristanmike> How do I uninstall???
[06:40] <Uthini> !chown
[06:40] <ubotu> Uthini: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:40] <vbgunz> it's supposed to be incredible... suppose to blow vmware out the water
[06:41] <setite> i will say though
[06:41] <setite> that is a scary game
[06:41] <Uthini> ubotu!!! help!!! focus
[06:41] <vbgunz> yup
[06:41] <vbgunz> you really have to play it at night
[06:41] <Uthini> guys
[06:41] <Answer> tristanmike: do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[06:41] <setite> haha my room is painted black and so is my window... might as well be night
[06:41] <ompaul> !tell Uthini about ubotu
[06:41] <evian> setite, I think there is a way to get the performance up, but I don't know the answer offhand
[06:41] <setite> well i nearly shit myself once
[06:41] <tristanmike> Answer, yes I do GeForceFX5200
[06:41] <Uthini> i need to change ownership on my home directory, cos for some odd reason it nolonger belongs to me
[06:41] <setite> when im walking... i turn around to kill a guy.. and when i turn back one of those creatures jumped on me
[06:42] <vbgunz> surround sound, lights out, and empty the mind... Doom3 will make you poop yourself if you're not careful
[06:42] <tristanmike> Answer, It was working up untill today after a whole slew of updates
[06:42] <Answer> tristanmike: try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[06:42] <Uthini> so wots the command?? sudo chown blah blah??
[06:42] <setite> evian well i was on max settings... and i must say the fps was not bad considering.. but it has an issue with load... when i opened a door it all but froze for about 3 seconds
[06:42] <Answer> Uthini: man chown
[06:42] <ompaul> Uthini, ls  /home -l and tell us who owns it
[06:42] <Answer> tristanmike: or in Synaptic search for GLX
[06:43] <setite> vbgunz, hehe thats what i did :)
[06:43] <Jowi> Uthini: sudo chown -R uthini /home/uthini
[06:43] <Uthini> Answer, i tried that
[06:43] <vbgunz> after you install the Nvidia-glx update you might need to restart Ubuntu... Restarting was the only thing that worked for me
[06:43] <tristanmike> Answer, already have the newest version, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:43] <Uthini> doesn't help
[06:43] <setite> its crazy how they pummel you and i cant hit them
[06:43] <Uthini> thx jowi
[06:43] <vbgunz> lol
[06:43] <evian> I'm interested in that Xen virtual monitor, but it doesn't run windows does it?
[06:43] <Answer> Uthini: chown <username> <directory>
[06:43] <setite> i had to cheat and get a shotty because everything else took too long
[06:43] <setite> imma look into this xen
[06:43] <setite> hey vb
[06:43] <setite> is it that new emulator
[06:43] <Answer> tristanmike: mark for removal nvidia-glx,  then reinstall it
[06:43] <Uthini> answer, i thought is was UID
[06:43] <evian> (at least not yet?)
[06:43] <Uthini> :-/
[06:43] <setite> i read about something revolutionaty in the works in wired last month or so
[06:44] <tristanmike> Answer, ok, brb
[06:44] <vbgunz> nah, I never cheat even in single player games, no walkthrough or nothing... it's either all wits and brains or a dvd movie for me ;)
[06:44] <evian> setite, ok I'll google Xen a bit here...
[06:44] <vbgunz> what?
[06:44] <Answer> Uthini: chown <userwhateveR> <dir>
[06:44] <setite> it was focusing on emulating broader code instead of line by line and it claimed like 80% or more performance
[06:44] <ompaul> setite, what you may have read about is the dvd Revolution O/S a useful view
[06:44] <vbgunz> I dont think Xen runs windows... I wish it did
[06:44] <setite> imma find the magazine real quick
[06:44] <Jowi> Uthini: nah, it's username and not uid. you can even extend it to group. for example: chown uthini:group filename
[06:45] <Uthini> dbl thx jowi
[06:45] <Answer> Uthini: use -R flag for Recursive
[06:45] <Jowi> Uthini: probably can do uid as well though
[06:45] <frank23> vbgunz: Xen needs to guest OS to be aware of Xen. Xen does not emulate a whole PC
[06:45] <vbgunz> but it doesn't either support windows or run on windows but it is supposed to run some linux distros at near native speeds... man thats beautiful... just blowing the comp out the water in virtual machines... well not just yet but getting there
[06:46] <tristanmike> Answer, how long is that suppose to take?
[06:46] <vbgunz> I just started reading about Xen and thought I ask about it in here... it was on my todo list to see if I could get it up and running tonight
[06:46] <Answer> tristanmike: to uninstall and reinstall nvidia-glx on a fast computer with a fast connection, should not take very long at all
[06:47] <Jowi> Good answer, Answer :-)
[06:47] <vbgunz> working with Nvidia-glx yesterday took only a few minutes on broadband
[06:47] <tristanmike> Answer, I'm still stuck on the uninstall
[06:47] <wezzer> hello, why is there so much updates to hoary now?
[06:47] <wezzer> I need to download 100 MB of different packages
[06:48] <Answer> tristanmike: maybe your nvidia-glx package is corrupted.  if synaptic cannot handle it then you are beyond my expertise
[06:48] <vbgunz> how many updates? Today on Breezy, I installed 96 + 26 + 3 + 26 updates
[06:48] <tristanmike> Answer, thanx :(
[06:48] <wezzer> vbgunz: wow, I didn't need to install that much, luckily :)
[06:48] <Answer> tristanmike: you can try from the root terminal,  sudo apt-get uninstall nvidia-glx
[06:49] <vbgunz> I love it though... Windows only updates Windows whereas Ubuntu seems to update everything and Ubuntu
[06:49] <Jowi> tristanmike: you might want to try to remove it in a terminal to see if you get any errors. sudo ap... ah, Answer beat me to it
[06:49] <Answer> tristanmike: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[06:49] <Answer> not uninstal.
[06:49] <Answer> tristanmike: sudo apt-get check nvidia-glx
[06:50] <rob_p> wezzer:  about half-way finished downloading 51 updates for hoary over here :-)
[06:50] <ompaul> since earlier today I have 40 megs of new material in breezy
[06:50] <vbgunz> I have a 5 button usb intellimouse by Microsoft... Anyone know how I can get my 5 buttons to work? Only left, right and middle work but not the sides... Any ideaS?
[06:50] <ompaul> 111 files since the last time I looked :)
[06:50] <rob_p> wow!
[06:51] <rob_p> keep 'em coming :-)
[06:51] <wolki> hi!
[06:51] <ompaul> 'lo!
[06:52] <wolki> is there an app that allosw me to reencode audio? soundconverter doesn't work
[06:52] <vbgunz> fellas keep it sexy, need to do some things. My pleasure, have fun!
[06:52] <[useless] > hello guys
[06:52] <Jowi> wolki: from what to what? wav to mp3 or ...?
[06:53] <[useless] > anyone here ever palayed starwars racer under cedega ?
[06:53] <wolki> Jowi: flac to mp3/ogg,
[06:53] <tristanmike> Answer, Jowi, thanks, I'll try, but can I just cancel it from synaptic
[06:53] <setite> finally found it
[06:53] <setite> Transitive of Los Gatos, CA
[06:53] <Answer> tristanmike: killall synaptic
[06:53] <Answer> hehe
[06:54] <setite> i think this may jsut be for the new intel macs to run ppc stuff
[06:54] <tristanmike> ok, I'm just copying a file in case my computer blows up, so when that's done, i'll take your advice and let you know
[06:54] <Jowi> wolki: yep. mpg321 or mpg123 to convert it to mp3. oggenc to convert to ogg.
[06:55] <Answer> tristanmike: try to check the package first with    sudo apt-get check nvidia-glx
[06:55] <tristanmike> Answer, yup yup
[06:55] <Jowi> wolki: you might want to install the "flac" package first.
[06:55] <Shrike__> hey guys im running ubuntu under vmware with nat. one problem I cant use netbios names for other computers I have to go by IP.  I tried using my networks dns server in resolv.conf..webpages coming up fine its just computer names
[06:56] <tristanmike> everything was going so well with Ubuntu, nary a problem
[06:56] <setite> http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/transitive_a_platform_dependence_free_future/
[06:56] <Jowi> tristanmike: yeah, just cancel it. you also can not have two different programs installing packages. that will give you an error saying that the files are locked.
[06:56] <wolki> Jowi: ok, thanks. i'll try
[06:57] <tristanmike> Jowi, thanx for the info
[06:57] <Answer> can't start apt-get from the command line with synaptic open anyways
[06:57] <masterloki> hi there I was looking the official page and I saw a feature in breezy. In installation it says "Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available to the desktop"
[06:58] <masterloki> does this means I can update my hoary
[06:58] <masterloki> without formating?
[06:58] <tristanmike> Answer, once I uninstall the "glx" package, should I restart then reinstall?
[06:58] <Answer> tristanmike: I like to restart as much as possible in times of trouble shooting...
[06:58] <tristanmike> Answer, ok
[06:59] <Jowi> tristanmike: no need to restart usually. but you should restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace when it comes to video drivers and such.
[06:59] <Answer> maybe it would work withour restart, I don't know... I like to err on the side of restarting unnecessarily
[06:59] <sorush20> is there a medical IRC chat
[06:59] <tristanmike> Jowi, that's how I understood it, but I like to confirm stuff :)
[06:59] <ompaul> sorush20, not on Freenode which is all about open source
[06:59] <konsa79> hi
[07:00] <konsa79> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[07:00] <konsa79> and broadcom 64 bit driver?
[07:00] <webtoe> hey people, quick question, does anyone else who is using breezy have icons messed up?
[07:00] <webtoe> i.e. On my gnome desktop, all the icons are the sheet of paper icon instead of what they should be
[07:01] <webtoe> i vaguely remember this happening with hoary but not 100% sure
[07:01] <webtoe> konsa79: what's your problem
[07:01] <Jowi> webtoe: that happens for me when running a different wm instead of gnome and it can not find the icons. try to change the icon-theme from the theme manager in gnome. might fix it.
[07:02] <Jowi> webtoe: i'm using hoary though.
[07:02] <webtoe> k thanks, will give that a go. I understand that things might be messed up in breezy just because it is still in development
[07:02] <wolki> jowi: looks like mpg321 is only a player. can't find anything about encoding in the man page
[07:02] <masterloki> webtoe, can I install breezy like if I where updating or do i have to format like warty-->Hoary?
[07:02] <Jowi> wolki: hang on.
[07:02] <tarawsa33> Any tips on fast data-cd burning. right now i get 5x in KIIIB with a 40x burner? dma enabled and buffer around 98%
[07:02] <webtoe> masterloki: no you can upgrade if you have hoary, the wonders of linux you see
[07:03] <Jowi> wolki: my fault. use oggenc <filename.flac>
[07:04] <frank23> masterloki: warty->hoary was also an upgrade
[07:04] <masterloki> webtoe, Will I get all thing from new kernel & Gnome to graphical boot up?
[07:04] <ompaul> masterloki, however you really should consider backing up your data, and having a live CD ready before you try just in case
[07:04] <Answer> tarawsa: using cdrecord there is an argument for speed=#
[07:04] <Jowi> wolki: thats for ogg. what did i use for mp3? hmmmm..
[07:04] <frank23> masterloki: yes you will
[07:04] <webtoe> masterloki: yes you will though you need to restart a few times, and follow ompaul's advice. Things can go wrong. It is still in development
[07:05] <tarawsa33> answer: cdrecord = command line?
[07:05] <masterloki> I know but I was usign Fedora when Warty cam out and when I installed ubuntu they were on hoary
[07:05] <Answer> tarawsa: yes,  man cdrecord
[07:05] <masterloki> How do I update??
[07:05] <tarawsa33> answer thanks for the answer
[07:05] <Jowi> wolki: oh yes. install and use "lame"
[07:06] <Butcherbird-Jr> Shrike__, So you can ping web pages but not local machines?
[07:06] <tristanmike> Answer, Jowi gonna try, be right back
[07:06] <masterloki> webtoe, How do I update??
[07:06] <webtoe> masterloki: if you have backed up, you need to open /etc/apt/sources.list and change any references to hoary to breezy. then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:06] <Shrike__> Butcherbird-Jr, shut up i dont need your help
[07:06] <Jowi> wolki: so "lame" for mp3 and "oggenc" for ogg. both can also set quality levels.
[07:07] <Shrike__> Shrike__, jk how you been man
[07:07] <Answer> tarawsa33:  also see  /etc/default/cdrecord   CDR_SPEED, which may be used by other programs like nautilus-cd-burner
[07:07] <Butcherbird-Jr> Shrike__, Who are you???
[07:07] <masterloki> since I have a Winpartiton with all my data I will just upgrade
[07:07] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm - i'm new to linux and i think i messed up whilst using synaptic manager as it appears to have stalled - how do i cancel it.  i.e. what is the analogue of ctrl+alt+del and clicking end task?
[07:07] <webtoe> masterloki: here's a link for some documentation that will lead you through the process http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[07:08] <masterloki> webtoe, thanks
[07:08] <Answer> Lunar_Lamp: in the terminal, killall synaptic
[07:08] <wolki> Jowi: ok, thanks. I guess oggenc will work. maybe i should update my scripting knowledge ^^;;;
[07:08] <Butcherbird-Jr> Shrike__, OK seriously "So you can ping web pages but not local machines?"
[07:08] <Answer> Lunar_Lamp: in the terminal, type "top" find hte PID of the Synaptic process, then type in kill <PID>
[07:08] <Shrike__> Butcherbird-Jr, yes
[07:09] <cusco> Lunar_Lamp: sudo killall synaptic
[07:09] <setite> can someone tell me the changes to get breezy... i wanna update kubuntu
[07:09] <Answer> Question: I want to automatically tar and scp some files every night, how?
[07:09] <Jowi> wolki: no probs. i usually only encode to ogg since my "mp3"player support it. "oggenc -q 6 *" converts all flac/wav files to ogg at quality level 6. man oggenc will give you more option.s
[07:09] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks people! :-)
[07:10] <Whistler> hello
[07:10] <webtoe> Answer: you can put it into a script and get cron to run it when you want it to
[07:10] <Whistler> is there any way of formating my partitions from live cd?
[07:10] <Butcherbird-Jr> Shrike__, have you tried adding both your normal dns servers and the actual IP of host(not nat'ed IP) to resolv.conf
[07:10] <Answer> webtoe: How to setup cron to run every night at 2am
[07:10] <setite> !breezy
[07:11] <Shrike__> Butcherbird-Jr, yes
[07:11] <webtoe> Answer: i don't know off the top of my head. You'll need to check the man page
[07:11] <webtoe> man cron.d
[07:11] <Jowi> Answer: crontab -e (for setting it up for the user you're logged into) or sudo crontab -e (for root services).
[07:11] <Butcherbird-Jr> Shrike__, Can you ping them from host OS
[07:12] <Lunar_Lamp> can anyone recommend a very mIRC-like program for me to cross over to? or is xchat the most similar linux application there is?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. isent cron running all the time anyway.. :P you mean set a script to run via cron at 2 am?
[07:12] <Shrike__> Butcherbird-Jr, yah
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xchat is the one to use Lunar_Lamp  - faster you get away from mIRC the better. :P
[07:12] <Lunar_Lamp> Dr_Willis, lol
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Im using xchat on my windows machines also.
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - where can i get mouse-gestures for firefox/whole system
[07:13] <tristanmike> Answer, Jowi, that didn't work, still getting the error I posted on pastebin
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> as i NEED mouse gestures - i can't survive without them anymore
[07:13] <tristanmike> Answer, now I'm missing the nVidia splash screen too
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> No idea there. :) i havent used Mouse-Gestures since that Game "Black and White" used them in such a BAD way.. :P
[07:13] <evian> perhaps mIRC works in wine?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Had such bad experiences with Mouse Gestures I dont even want to try them.
[07:13] <Answer> tristan: you might have conflicting packages or something... did you install other glx or ati drivers?
[07:13] <popey> evian: it does
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> evian,  Blasphmy!
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:14] <tristanmike> Answer, nvidia, it was working up until today
[07:14] <evian> well he can't live without his mouse gestures, I'm just trying to save his life
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> mirc has mouse jestures?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking he wanted them for his browser.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:14] <tristanmike> What is this code?  "xinit /$usr/local/games/armyops -- :1"
[07:14] <Lunar_Lamp> yeah - i want the mousegestures for firefox, lol
[07:15] <Lunar_Lamp> (though if i can get them system-wide, it would be great!)
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> and it aint a nice one.
[07:15] <evian> I never said I was a doctor
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike,  its starting X. and running that single program, on the 2nd tty. (tty8)
[07:15] <popey> Lunar_Lamp: in FF Tools --> Extensions --> get More Extensions --> in web page that opens in the search box type "mouse gestures"
[07:16] <popey> Lunar_Lamp: https://addons.mozilla.org/quicksearch.php?q=mouse+gestures&section=A is the result
[07:16] <popey> Lunar_Lamp: easy
[07:16] <Lunar_Lamp> popey,  thanks - i will try it
[07:16] <Jowi> tristanmike: after you have removed drivers and reinstalled, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:16] <setite> 710 packages to upgrade.. woot
[07:17] <ciluuk> setite, :))
[07:17] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis, is it dangerous?
[07:17] <setite> yup... going to the breezy badger
[07:17] <tristanmike> Jowi, ok
[07:17] <ciluuk> setite, my iso download almost finished....horrayyy
[07:18] <setite> oh your getting the breezy?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike,  its starting a game.....
[07:18] <ciluuk> setite, yup
[07:18] <setite> does ubuntu have a netinstall cd
[07:18] <setite> they need that
[07:18] <setite> it would save me time
[07:19] <tristanmike> Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[07:19] <setite> time to sip a cherry pepsi and watch dist-upgrade go
[07:20] <tristanmike> Do I pick yes or no??
[07:20] <Answer> setite: the Ubuntu Install CD is only one cd, and then you can get the rest of hte packages from the net, so basically it is like the debian net installer
[07:20] <Jowi> tristanmike: some use it some don't. my video card can't handle it so i don't. no idea about nvidia/ati.
[07:20] <setite> dont bank on me.. but i think no....
[07:20] <setite> jowi what does it do...
[07:20] <setite> ive always been told no.. but im sur emy card can handle it
[07:21] <setite> Answer, yes and no... my meaning is a bare minimum with just the installer... and you pick what you want... and then it downloads the packages...
[07:21] <setite> so you dont have to burn a cd
[07:21] <Jowi> tristanmike, setite : it makes use of a virtual graphics screen instead of pure fullscreen text modes. I think... laptops generally never has it.
[07:21] <tristanmike> What have you got me doing???? HELP, I'm so lost, what are all of these screens?
[07:22] <Jowi> tristanmike: just say "no" and you will be fine
[07:22] <pl_ice> heyya
[07:22] <tristanmike> How do I know which options to pick
[07:22] <pl_ice> g'night :)
[07:22] <setite> tristanmike, its creepy the first time... be patient... and no is the safe answer
[07:22] <Answer> setite: I want the installer condensed into a web applet that can takeover windows systems thru the browser
[07:22] <setite> just ask and ill help you answer.. ive done that thing alot
[07:22] <setite> haha good luck with that Answer .. im sure my suggestion has a better chance
[07:23] <Answer> setite: all you have to do is make a partition for the install files, and install grub to boot from that partition, and reboot.  sounds easy
[07:23] <tristanmike> Attempt mouse device autodetection?
[07:23] <mumbles> Trackilizer press yes
[07:23] <Jowi> tristanmike: yep.
[07:23] <setite> tristanmike sure
[07:23] <setite> Answer, bla bla i know all that but i want a netinstall cd
[07:23] <tristanmike> should I just stick with the default entries?
[07:24] <stoeptegel> I'am in GVIM and want to find &replace a word. This can be done with a command right?  How do i get at the commandline in Vim?
[07:24] <setite> what would be awesome is one that would be universal... so i could use it to start a netinstall of 64bit on one pc.. and even use it on a friends pc to install 32bit
[07:24] <Answer> setite: use the install cd with the option CUSTOM and you can select the minimal packages you want.
[07:24] <Jowi> wb Hoxzer^
[07:24] <Hoxzer^> wb :E
[07:25] <tristanmike> What about "Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default"? What should I check?
[07:25] <setite> Answer, im talking about a timesaver... a smaller cd... some os's have a 40 meg cd that is for installing the super minimum or pulling the packages off the net...
[07:25] <setite> the freebsd installer has the bootcd that is capable of that...
[07:25] <tristanmike> Everything has a star except "GLcore" and "v4l" what is this?
[07:25] <Hoxzer^> what was the name of that software that mount's every HDD to /media/ ?
[07:26] <setite> just leave it as is... i always do tristanmike
[07:26] <Hoxzer^> fstab or somehting
[07:26] <Jowi> !windowsdrives
[07:26] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[07:26] <Hoxzer^> !tell fstab
[07:26] <Answer> setite: with the ubuntu install cd, use the CUSTOM option, and you can install a minimal set of packages....
[07:26] <setite> Answer, but you still download the full install cd for that...
[07:26] <setite> Answer, i give up.. you dont seem to get what im saying
[07:26] <tristanmike> whew, back at the console, so i should try running "armyops" again?
[07:27] <Answer> setite: if u are too impatient to download an iso, maybe computers are not for u
[07:27] <Jowi> tristanmike: if you have restarted X, go ahead
[07:27] <setite> Answer, calm down buddy... im just saying it would be nice if they included that... it was just a random statement...
[07:27] <g14> When I do cat << EOF >> /tmp/binfile with the contents of a uuencoded binary file, I get a weird error
[07:27] <tristanmike> Jowi, by restarted, you mean log off and log on?
[07:27] <Answer> setite: I want a link on my webpage that says "Ubuntu Takeover" that launches and applet, partitions the hd, instals grub, and takes over from there :)  so i understand what umean
[07:28] <Answer> setite: for instaling on systems without a cd burner
[07:28] <Jowi> tristanmike: no - ctrl-alt-backspace. that reloads the whole shebang
[07:28] <Answer> setite: you can partition and format the hd, download the install iso to the hd, boot from there, and takeover.  thru a web applet.  that is your goal
[07:28] <setite> that would be a great option i do admint
[07:28] <tristanmike> hmmm, sometimes it brings me to a dos like screen where I have a "terminal" and I don't get my "desktop"
[07:28] <ompaul> setite, if you think this is a worthwhile thing, you have expressed the most interest in it, feel free to build it
[07:29] <prolsd> hmm
[07:29] <Answer> tristanmike: alt+F7 is the graphical login,  alt+F1 is the text login
[07:29] <Answer> tristanmike: or try running "startx"
[07:29] <Jowi> tristanmike: it should restart automatically with ctrl-alt-backspace. if it doesn't ctrl-alt-delete will reboot the system.
[07:29] <setite> nah.. im too stupid for that... and luckily i have broadband...
[07:29] <setite> i think it will be available soon enough... or maybe not
[07:29] <tristanmike> To All: Thanks, I'll be back in a moment
[07:30] <ompaul> setite, so what was the all the noise about, non specific ramblings would be much better in #ubuntu-offtopic (now theres a plug for another channel :))
[07:30] <prolsd> guys; is it possible to mount a NTFS disk into ubunto and access it's files (including writing)? I remember having this in FreeBSD.
[07:30] <Answer> !ntfs
[07:31] <setite> nah see what sucks is that i try to say one thing.. then someone grabs it and it never ends
[07:31] <setite> !tell prolsd abotu ntfs
[07:31] <setite> i dont like that mac_fstab
[07:31] <evian> is there a way I don't have to keep entering my password every time I run the application installer?
[07:31] <Discipulus> Anyone in here use Verizon Online DSL?
[07:31] <setite> i think the automaticallymountwindowspartitions wiki is better
[07:31] <Answer> Discipulus: Verizon Online DSL yes
[07:32] <Discipulus> It work with Linux 100%?
[07:32] <setite> it shoudl
[07:32] <setite> i cant imagine why not
[07:32] <setite> afaik all broadbands work fine... wireless may take more tweaking.. but traditional broadband from a router or straight to pc from ethernet cable are easy
[07:32] <prolsd> hmm; didn't get anything.
[07:33] <setite> now if its usb modem... im sorry... but i think it still works
[07:33] <setite> prols
[07:33] <ompaul> !tell prolsd about ntfs
[07:33] <prolsd> ah there we go.
[07:33] <setite> ompaul, did that :)
[07:33] <prolsd> thanks.
[07:33] <setite> wtf... did he not see the one i sent
[07:33] <ompaul> :)
[07:33] <prolsd> setite; maybe it lagged actually
[07:34] <setite> codswallop
[07:34] <prolsd> i received it just after paul did it.
[07:34] <setite> i think this is easier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28automaticallymount%29
[07:34] <ciluuk> setite, cool down guy's :D
[07:34] <setite> its simpler and accomplishes the same... i dont know what that threads about
[07:34] <Answer> Discipulus: you most likely need to login as admin to you Router or Cable modem and setup your Profile
[07:34] <Jowi> wb tristanmike
[07:34] <setite> hey ciluuk im always calm.. nothing in here has the power to change that
[07:35] <Jowi> tristanmike: i guess that it worked?
[07:35] <tristanmike> So if I were to believe in a spiritual deity, it would be the great people of the #ubuntu IRC
[07:35] <prolsd> ok that's looking great.
[07:35] <setite> tristanmike, you will curse us tomorrow
[07:35] <Answer> ncurses
[07:35] <setite> what is armyops
[07:35] <Jowi> lol setite
[07:35] <setite> does AA have a linux version
[07:36] <tristanmike> lol, no I have NEVER cursed the IRC's maybe the forums, but NEVER the IRC
[07:36] <tristanmike> setite, yes they do
[07:36] <setite> i love the forums... my animosity is toward people in here sometimes
[07:36] <Jowi> AA = Anonymous Alcoholics? :-)
[07:36] <setite> only one thing that gets me is the wankers who tell people to give up ubuntu and go to windows
[07:36] <setite> in this very channel..
[07:36] <ompaul> Jowi, that like Anonymous ftp?
[07:36] <setite> that gets me
[07:36] <ciluuk> Jowi, heheheh...Lol
[07:36] <tristanmike> yes Jowi, we get drunk and mess up our computer
[07:37] <setite> almost got banned for attacking one of those people
[07:37] <Jowi> lol
[07:37] <konsa79> hi everyone, i've a problem with amilo a7645 and gemtek (broadcom64bit) and ndiswrapper
[07:37] <setite> ill grab AA for lin
[07:37] <konsa79> anyone can help me
[07:37] <setite> omg
[07:37] <setite> i will say a prayer for you konsa79
[07:37] <tristanmike> setite, it's awesome
[07:37] <konsa79> tnk
[07:37] <Jowi> konsa79: ask away. if someone can help they will
[07:38] <sjg> broadcom and ndiswrapper is....funky to say the least
[07:38] <sjg> I use it myself and it was a pita to setup
[07:38] <setite> to say the least indeed
[07:38] <ui> why i cant take screenshots of my menu? :(
[07:38] <setite> its quite easy to set up actually
[07:38] <setite> real friggin easy
[07:38] <setite> i just had hiccups that added hours to the process
[07:38] <sjg> Mine works perfect now
[07:38] <sjg> "Now"
[07:38] <Answer> ui: use the full printscreen, ALT has menu functionality.  or use a screenshot program
[07:38] <setite> mine doesnt
[07:39] <prolsd> ok so; don't want to sound silly but, doesn't ub play mp3 by default? says i need plugins. hmm.
[07:39] <setite> not being able to scan doenst qualify as perfect to me
[07:39] <konsa79> i cannot find 64bit driver
[07:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[07:39] <ciluuk> ui : try GIMP to take screenshoot
[07:39] <ui> ty
[07:39] <ompaul> !tell prolsd about restricted
[07:39] <setite> shit i gotta install flash to view this site
[07:39] <setite> bs
[07:39] <sjg> heh
[07:39] <tristanmike> ui, yeah, the GIMP is what i've heard people use to take screen shots of menus
[07:39] <Jowi> ui: type this in a terminal: sleep 10 && gnome-screenshot (that will wait 10 seconds before trying to make a screenshot which will give you plenty of time)
[07:39] <setite> the gimp is a photo editor
[07:40] <setite> a wannabe photoshop if you will
[07:40] <tommi^> Hi. Is it possible, with .forward file, to have my mail forwarded and still keep a local copy of it?
[07:40] <setite> not to discredit it... but its no photoshop
[07:40] <P0S3R> helo all
[07:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need details abaut login in a domain with ubuntu, this domain will be in a (sorry...) AD (blarg!)....someone could help?
[07:40] <setite> hello poser
[07:40] <Fanskapet> hmm
[07:40] <tristanmike> Jowi, what a nice command
[07:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i know is possible, by LDAP...but i need details...
[07:40] <Fanskapet> i get around 300 bounce mails each day
[07:40] <P0S3R> =)
[07:40] <everamzah> so if i'm using ubuntu now, coming from debian (for multiuser-computer/ease-of-use reasons), do i have to reinstall the distro each time a new release comes? can i just change my sources.list and update to breezy?
[07:41] <Fanskapet> should i check my sendmail/postfix configuration now or after my isp bans me? :P
[07:41] <ui> thanks
[07:41] <Jowi> tristanmike: actually, "nice" is a command as well so you're correct :-D
[07:41] <sjg> everamzah: just update sources and update :P
[07:41] <earthen> hi OMPaul
[07:41] <tristanmike> I wish I had 1/32 the talent you all have
[07:41] <setite> how do i get flash on 64
[07:41] <tristanmike> Jowi, nice? a command?
[07:41] <tristanmike> wow
[07:41] <malverian[work] > I'm using ubuntu breezy, and it appears that my apt just broke itself...
[07:41] <ompaul> hi earthen
[07:41] <Answer> apt-get install apt-get hehehe
[07:42] <everamzah> sjg: do i have to change hoory to breezy in my sources.list first?
[07:42] <Jowi> tristanmike: yeah. if you rip a cd but it takes to much cpu power for you to do other things. you can type "nice sound-juicer" to make the cd-ripper behave more... ehh... nice.
[07:42] <setite> everamzah, what you doing
[07:42] <sjg> everamzah: yes, you will want to change all the hoary to breezy for the reps you will be using
[07:42] <earthen> skype still doesn't seem to work
[07:42] <Answer> tristanmike: nice makes processes share the processor and threading
[07:42] <everamzah> thanks a bunch
[07:42] <tristanmike> Jowi, wow, that's amazing, I'm just looking at the man page...nice
[07:42] <setite> you can just change them... its so nuts easy... i love autosearch and replace
[07:42] <everamzah> setite: oh you know, relaxing, finding joy in linux, the usual
[07:43] <setite> im doing it as we speak
[07:43] <P0S3R> unplugging a usb cable while the device is mount without unmounting it may cause that no longer can connect a storage device via usb? :x
[07:43] <tristanmike> so I could run "nice armyops"
[07:43] <kbreit> How do I get ls to only output the directories?
[07:43] <setite> im 77% of the dist-upgrade
[07:43] <sjg> setite, going to breezy?
[07:43] <Jowi> tristanmike: yep. but armyops would probably need all the power it can have
[07:43] <setite> sjg, ya
[07:43] <everamzah> setite: and you?
[07:43] <malverian[work] > My libapt-pkg got removed somehow...
[07:43] <setite> sjg, its my lazy way of upgrading kde
[07:44] <tristanmike> Jowi, so "nice rhythmbox" would be more suitable
[07:44] <sjg> Been running breezy for a few weeks and its been runnning perfectly
[07:44] <setite> everamzah, same
[07:44] <sjg> eww kde
[07:44] <webtoe> kbreit: ls -d
[07:44] <tristanmike> cool
[07:44] <sjg> But to each his or her own
[07:44] <kbreit> webtoe, It only prints . even though theres subdirs.
[07:44] <setite> well i had bad memories from when i upgraded warty to hoary and broke lots of shit
[07:44] <setite> so i was weary to do it this time
[07:44] <sjg> Same here
[07:44] <sjg> warty to hoary was horrid
[07:44] <setite> ya
[07:44] <sjg> I broke my system like 4 or 5 times
[07:44] <setite> but that was because of the changes... like xorg and shti
[07:45] <sjg> Yups
[07:45] <setite> honestly...
[07:45] <sjg> I actually wiped my hd and installed fresh at that time.
[07:45] <setite> breezy isnt much of an upgrade from what i can see
[07:45] <setite> at least the first page that talks about he updgrades i dont see anythign big
[07:45] <setite> usplash and stuff... but nothing revolutionary
[07:45] <sjg> Its smoother than hoary
[07:45] <setite> but then again i cant expect much in 6 months
[07:45] <sjg> "looks nicer"
[07:45] <everamzah> so i got this ubuntu, and it's grooven, but the whole it just works thing is crazy. i can't burn an audio cd! that's not some closed ip. am i not seeing some piece of default software that comes with 5.04? or is nautlis-databurner the only default option?
[07:45] <webtoe> kbreit: i see your point, not sure why it does that
[07:45] <setite> well yea im sure little things
[07:45] <malverian[work] > sjg, I've been running it since the first day the repositories were added, this is the first time it's broken this badly on me :-P
[07:46] <setite> the best burner is k3b right?
[07:46] <setite> but k3b is evil
[07:46] <sjg> everamzah: I use gnomeburner
[07:46] <Jowi> everamzah: yeah, as default. I prefer graveman myselv
[07:46] <kbreit> webtoe, Suck :/
[07:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i login in a domain with active directory with ubuntu?
[07:46] <setite> it broke my wary because of the damn Xice.authority or something
[07:46] <everamzah> ya the best burner is, that's why i installed it. but i mean: that there's not out-of-the-box audio burning software... i dunno.
[07:47] <everamzah> whatever, beggers can't be choosers
[07:47] <setite> you know i havent tried burning a cd/dvd yet
[07:47] <kbreit> webtoe, Is there a way I can have it only print files, not dirs?
[07:47] <setite> i oughtto when im done upgrading
[07:47] <sjg> !restrictedformats
[07:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:47] <Answer> Aragorn_Guardian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryHowto?highlight=%28directory%29%7C%28active%29
[07:47] <setite> since im on kde this time i can try k3b safely
[07:47] <Answer> !activedirectory
[07:47] <ubotu> Answer: Are you smoking crack?
[07:47] <Answer> !winbind
[07:47] <ubotu> Answer: No idea
[07:47] <everamzah> Answer: Yes
[07:48] <Jowi> everamzah: i agree with what you're saying. should be a standard burner that handles everything installed by default. the nautilus burner is seriously lacking features.
[07:48] <webtoe> kbreit: you could do it in a script but not sure with just pure command line switches
[07:48] <deluja> hi, anyone i have problem booting ubuntu live
[07:48] <Answer> deluja: what happens
[07:48] <Eragon> Jowi, is there not in kde?
[07:48] <deluja> it seems it doesnt start xserver
[07:48] <frank23> everamzah: use k3b for all your burning
[07:48] <everamzah> eragon: are you some kinda zealot?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> safely? :p
[07:49] <everamzah> frank: i do
[07:49] <sjg> Jowi: definitely nautilus burner is lacking
[07:49] <Answer> deluja: startx
[07:49] <kbreit> webtoe, This is for a script, okay.
[07:49] <Jowi> Eragon: no idea. haven't tried it for years. running Oroborus here.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use k3b for my needs.
[07:49] <Eragon> i know that konqueror does alot of shit... especially mp3 encoding.. that virtual drive stuff... woot
[07:49] <reiki_work> GnomeBaker seems ok as a burner
[07:49] <Eragon> everamzah, ??
[07:49] <mik3_> anyone know if evoluation will work with gmail?
[07:49] <everamzah> frank: my point was that there's not default burner. what about those poor, defensless windows users who are trying ubuntu as their first linux?
[07:49] <kbreit> What's the concatonate for bash?
[07:49] <webtoe> mik3_: no
[07:49] <Eragon> everamzah, its a character in a book
[07:49] <everamzah> eragon: ha, nothing, just messin' with ya
[07:49] <malverian[work] > The ubuntu datacd thing works fine.
[07:49] <malverian[work] > Very user friendly and simple.
[07:49] <mik3_> are there any programs that will run on webmail/gmail?
[07:49] <everamzah> everamzah: no, i said that based on your comment, not your name... your majesty
[07:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks...gonna see
[07:50] <malverian[work] > The problem is the lack of audio cd burner (there is now one in Breezy though)
[07:50] <Jowi> kbreit: cat <filename>?
[07:50] <frank23> everamzah: breezy has a audio cd burning software by default. audacity, I think it's called
[07:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> !samba
[07:50] <ubotu> hmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:50] <deluja> well... it seems it finishes everithing and when it suppose to show user logon screen or smth the screen is simply black
[07:50] <kbreit> Jowi, Yeha, okay.
[07:50] <Eragon> i love audacity
[07:50] <mik3_> are there any programs that will run on webmail/gmail?
[07:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice feature this bot... 8)
[07:50] <Eragon> i loved it on windows and was so happy that its on linux too
[07:50] <Jowi> audacity rocks
[07:50] <Eragon> its perfect for making ringtones for my phone
[07:51] <sjg> hmm ringtones?
[07:51] <Eragon> got my hardcore ringtones that scare the shit out of me when its quite
[07:51] <Answer> mik3_: Configure GMAIL POP access in Thunderbird http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285
[07:51] <sjg> I wonder if that will work with my cell...
[07:51] <webtoe> mik3_: there are extensions for firefox that will check it. but google want you to sign into their website so they can show you adverts
[07:51] <everamzah> WHOA AUDACITY? that's an audio multichannel/multitrack EDITOR
[07:51] <deluja> i dont even get command line
[07:51] <webtoe> ok ignore me,, i'm stupid and no nothing :D
[07:51] <rob_p> mik3_:  I have no trouble accessing gmail with evolution!  Seems to work just fine here.
[07:51] <webtoe> Answer knows what he/she is talking about
[07:51] <Eragon> yea my phone accepts mp3 ringtones... or are they pcm.. or wav.. i forget.. but i use audacity to make them mono and the right speed and clip them.. then transfer them to my phone with usb
[07:51] <frank23> everamzah: my mistake, most likely
[07:51] <reiki_work> mik3_: you want to do gmail using Evolution?
[07:51] <everamzah> no one should be using that to burn they're ogg/mp3 collections. i submit oggs to a monthly mixing thingy at em411.com and those fools all use audacity as their player. this is life i suppsoe
[07:52] <deluja> during booting it shows only one error, : temporaty failure in name resolution
[07:52] <mik3_> oh evolution does do gmail? neat
[07:52] <Eragon> audacity as a player?!
[07:52] <everamzah> frank: no, no, use what you gotta. i just was thinking about a perfect utopia for a minute, that's all
[07:52] <Eragon> thats shameful
[07:52] <Answer> webtoe: You have to first enable your GMAIL POP Access, then you can use any POP Client (For example Evolution or Thunderbird or Eudora)
[07:52] <reiki_work> mik3_: take a look at this for evolution and gmail... http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/evolution/2005-August/044308.html
[07:52] <webtoe> Answer: Thanks! never knew that....
[07:52] <Eragon> audacity burns?
[07:52] <everamzah> eragon: you do pro-audio?
[07:53] <Eragon> 99%!!!
[07:53] <rob_p> yup!  the key is enabling pop access in your gmail settings...
[07:53] <Eragon> everamzah, nah... used to try... when i was "in a band"
[07:53] <everamzah> audacity burns, so doesn't rezound. ive never tried burning from an audio editor before (oh - and audacity burns), kinda weary
[07:53] <Eragon> haha garage band days
[07:53] <everamzah> Eragon, that's cool
[07:53] <Answer> mik3_: The information needed to setup Evolution with GMAIL should be contained in the Thunderbird setup http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285
[07:53] <Answer> It's just server and usernames basically
[07:54] <Answer> !pop3
[07:54] <ubotu> No idea, Answer
[07:54] <Eragon> yea.... i was a little ghetto... just ran everythign into a behringer 4 channel mixer and ran that into my pc in...
[07:54] <Answer> !gmail
[07:54] <ubotu> Answer: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <Answer> !evolution
[07:54] <ubotu> Answer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:54] <Jowi> !info evolution
[07:54] <ubotu> evolution: (The groupware suite), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.2.1.1-0ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 4111 kB, Installed size: 24560 kB
[07:54] <everamzah> Eragon, i like to think of a computer as one more piece of equipment for bands. like all the other equipment it has audio in/out, and switches to change all the sound, but's it can be SUPER full fledged: awesome for musician... linux audio is a great (Answer: No, pot) tool for poor kids like me.
[07:54] <Eragon> it sucked though becuase it was always too loud... i couldnt everythign to stay under the full spectrum... but i didnt have much headroom...
[07:54] <CookedGryphon> setting up evolution with gmail's easy, even i did it, look at the other mail client section on the gmail website
[07:55] <prolsd> hmm
[07:55] <Eragon> yea if i had spent just a wee bit more money... i could have had a studio quality setup./.. but the drummer was a POS and we split before i bought that final interface for the better recording quality...
[07:55] <vitriol> anybody have trouble with the latest hoary updates?
[07:55] <vitriol> i just updated and it broke mozilla-thunderbird and gtk-gnutella
[07:55] <Eragon> i had shure mics and drum mics and all that... i was ready to go.. but ah well
[07:56] <deluja> ONCE AGAIN: does anyone knows, what s happening when after booting ubuntu live one gets blank screen?
[07:56] <everamzah> Eragon, well if your physical mixer isn't right, use aurdour... well, you probably don't make music anymore huh? i'm not in a band, but i love to make music with linux.
[07:56] <Eragon> brb gotta restart for the breezy ness
[07:56] <everamzah> Eragon, why'd you give it up?
[07:56] <everamzah> Eragon, found it wasn't your bad or something?
[07:56] <Answer> deluja: What kind of hardware?
[07:57] <Eragon> well imma get a usb input one day... to start making my own music for fun...
[07:57] <Eragon> brb
[07:57] <deluja> nvidia geforce2 mx 440
[07:57] <Belutz> guys... wanna ask something... how many of you using evolution instead of thunderbird, and why ?
[07:57] <sjg> < evolution
[07:57] <wezzer> I use evolution
[07:57] <sjg> Just used to it and love it
[07:57] <reiki_work> Belutz: I use Evolution because Thunderbird couldn't read local mail spool
[07:57] <prolsd> ompaul; i didn
[07:58] <CookedGryphon> Belutz, i use evolution, cos its got the calendar and task list
[07:58] <prolsd> 't get much wiser from reading that wiki.
[07:58] <Belutz> i see
[07:58] <everamzah> <mutt - oh wait, this isn't 1999... <evolution -- oh wait, it's 2005, shit i've volunteeringly locked myself into gmail... haha. GOOGLE: THE NEW NEW MONOPOLY
[07:58] <Jowi> deluja: if you get blank screen imediatley after boot (not for X) then my guess would be to deactivate the framebuffer. i only know how to do that on the normal ubuntu install cd though.
[07:58] <sjg> Ive actually never looked @ thunderbird.
[07:58] <Belutz> i didn't use the local mail spool and calendar...
[07:58] <CookedGryphon> evolution is a bit slow running but its not like i'm using it constantly so i put up with it
[07:58] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone good at mail headers?
[07:59] <Answer> sjg: Thunderbird is from Mozilla so it is cool like that
[07:59] <sjg> evolution don't seem slow to me.
[07:59] <Belutz> the one thing that makes me want to switch is the evolution addressbook
[07:59] <reiki_work> If Thunderbird could get my mail from /var/mail/username I'd probably have used it. I couldn't get it to do that
[07:59] <CookedGryphon> Belutz, then ure better with thuinderbird, features u dont use jsut slow u down :D
[07:59] <Belutz> and i just use mail client to pop from gmail
[07:59] <sjg> can thunderbird access exchange servers ?
[08:00] <Belutz> sjg: i don't think so
[08:00] <everamzah> ... i'm telling you all, google has your soul. i don't trust 'em. something's fishy with 'em.
[08:00] <Nameless12> can someone help me out, i have a hdd pluged into a hdd controler /dev/sda1 The fstab file is setup correctly. But it gives a error when loading ubuntu and i have to manualy mount the harddrive each time i boot my computer. its almost as if it loads the drive for the hdd controler after it runs the fstab file, i have tried the ubuntu beta version and ubuntu is better at mounting harddrives in that version and i dont get this probl
[08:00] <Nameless12> em. can someone tell me how to fix it
[08:00] <CookedGryphon> oh yeah does anyone know y in the evolution addressbook, when i ask it to automatically update my contacts list from gaim, it just picks one person at random to add and leaves the rest?
[08:00] <sjg> Thats another reason I dont use it. :P
[08:00] <Fanskapet> http://users.sidvicious.se/fanskapet/header.png
[08:00] <setite> guess i dont have to restart yet
[08:00] <ompaul> prolsd, what don't you understand the repository thing?
[08:00] <Fanskapet> anyone see if this is a "real" bounce or just some crappy spammingmail?
[08:00] <Belutz> well... maybe i'll use thunderbird for a while...
[08:01] <prolsd> well, paul, it seems that i don't really get what i should do.
[08:01] <sjg> Belutz: You could use mutt :P
[08:01] <Lunar_Lamp> can someoen point me in the direction of a guide explaining how to mount my windows drive so i can access all my music when booted into ubuntu not windows?  I'd be really appreciative!
[08:01] <Belutz> sjg: hehehe :D
[08:01] <sjg> But...why....:P
[08:01] <prolsd> installed ubuntu, mounted ntfs hdd, i have media applications installed
[08:01] <setite> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28automaticallymount%29
[08:01] <Belutz> thanks guys for your opinions
[08:01] <prolsd> sound works
[08:01] <setite> Lunar_Lamp, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28automaticallymount%29
[08:01] <prolsd> just like the codec isn't installed, and i don't know how to do it.
[08:01] <setite> or
[08:01] <CookedGryphon> Lunar_Lamp:
[08:01] <setite> !tell Lunar_Lamp abotu ntfs
[08:01] <sjg> Basically, we have options, you use what you like.
[08:01] <CookedGryphon> !windowsdrives
[08:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:02] <hypershock> i'm having some problems with locale, how can i fix it?
[08:02] <Shrike__> Lunar_Lamp, the wiki is your salvation^ ^
[08:02] <ompaul> prolsd, problem with you not saying ompaul :) the problem is that the conversation does not highlight and I miss it
[08:02] <setite> or that
[08:02] <Answer> Lunar_Lamp: a simple google search would have yielded that Ubuntu Wiki page...
[08:02] <sjg> I started using evolution when i found it, before that I used sylpheed, and before that pine
[08:02] <prolsd> oh sorry about that
[08:02] <Nameless12> Lunar_Lamp, there is a driver you can get for windows that lets you access linux harddrives with read\write access in windows. That maybe helpful, all of my 3 harddrives are ext3 with a exeption of a windows partition. And i use ALL of my partitions in windows with read\write access. its worth looking into
[08:02] <prolsd> ompaul :)
[08:02] <CookedGryphon> lol i htink lunar lamp knows now..
[08:02] <setite> Answer, its ok... we can spoonfeed the simple stuff
[08:02] <Lunar_Lamp> Shrike__,  - whenever i look on the wiki the answer is on the forum, and whenever i look on the forum, the answer is on the wiki :-(
[08:02] <CookedGryphon> Answer has a poinat
[08:02] <CookedGryphon> point i eman. course he may have a poinat too
[08:02] <setite> ooho breezy has newer nvidia drivers
[08:02] <setite> maybe the game will play better
[08:02] <sjg> game?
[08:03] <ompaul> prolsd, okay, do you know what a repository in Ubuntu terms is?
[08:03] <setite> doom3 demo
[08:03] <Shrike__> Lunar_Lamp, =)
[08:03] <sjg> ah
[08:03] <setite> i need flash
[08:03] <sjg> I got that in a box, Ive never installed it
[08:03] <setite> do i gotta install 32bit firefox
[08:03] <CookedGryphon> Lunar_Lamp, at least ure getting nswers!
[08:03] <sjg> setite: are you running a 32 bit system or 64?
[08:03] <setite> i really dont wanna do that because that means i gotta debootstrapp chroot
[08:03] <setite> 64 of course
[08:03] <prolsd> ompaul, not really. i guess i'm kinda stupid for asking here instead of RTFMing, but since everything went so fast and smooth i was kind asurprised at why i can't get simple mp3
[08:03] <prolsd> s
[08:03] <sjg> yeah, im running it in a chrooted envir
[08:03] <prolsd> to play.
[08:04] <setite> that sucks
[08:04] <CookedGryphon> does anyone here use msn? cos i can't conect, it says the servers r down
[08:04] <sjg> It works
[08:04] <setite> i can do it but id rather not...
[08:04] <setite> guess imma have to
[08:04] <kitsch> hey does anyone know if creative zen touch  (mp3-player) works with linux? (is it ok to aks that here? :))
[08:04] <sjg> My lappy is my only machine now
[08:04] <Answer> setite: Give a man a link... Teach a man to google...
[08:04] <ompaul> prolsd, okay, let me explain why that is first
[08:04] <Nameless12> CookedGryphon, working fine here
[08:04] <sjg> Till i get everything moved
[08:04] <setite> Answer, huh?
[08:04] <Nameless12> can someone help me out, i have a hdd pluged into a hdd controler /dev/sda1 The fstab file is setup correctly. But it gives a error when loading ubuntu and i have to manualy mount the harddrive each time i boot my computer. its almost as if it loads the drive for the hdd controler after it runs the fstab file, i have tried the ubuntu beta version and ubuntu is better at mounting harddrives in that version and i dont get this probl
[08:04] <Nameless12> em. can someone tell me how to fix it
[08:04] <CookedGryphon> Nameless12, thanks.. hmm i wonder...
[08:04] <prolsd> thank you for your time by the way.
[08:04] <Answer> setite: old fishing anecdote...
[08:04] <setite> www.google.com
[08:04] <Jowi> Nameless12: can you mount sda1 after boot without problem?
[08:05] <setite> oh... an attempt at humour... interesting
[08:05] <CookedGryphon> kitsch, i should think so if it jsut mounts like a usb drive and u copy files onto it, course if it does weird stuff to the files like an ipod u may b in trouble
[08:05] <setite> Answer, problem is... he would be back in 15 seconds saying what do i search for :)
[08:05] <Nameless12> Jowi, yes i can
[08:05] <Jowi> Nameless12: can you put your fstab into the pastebin please
[08:06] <setite> sda for sata
[08:06] <Lunar_Lamp> thankyou for the point for mounting windows drive people - sorted now :-
[08:06] <Nameless12> Jowi, gimmie a sec and ill paste it
[08:06] <setite> jesus!!!!!
[08:06] <WhiteRabbit> loves
[08:06] <setite> this upgrade takes foreversf
[08:06] <setite> sdfsdf
[08:06] <setite> sdf
[08:06] <CookedGryphon> you
[08:06] <setite> grrrr... ok i need anothe pepsi... calm the nervs
[08:06] <Nameless12> Jowi, /dev/hda4       /var/storage/dump       ext3    defaults        0       0
[08:06] <Nameless12> /dev/hdb1       /var/storage/downloads  ext3    defaults        0       0
[08:06] <Nameless12> /dev/sda1       /var/storage/archive    ext3    defaults        0       0
[08:06] <ompaul> prolsd, the nice people in MP3 world got patents in some countries putting a random tax on the road to innovation, and in other countries there are laws against decoding stuff you have not got the 'rights' for. that is the why but does not help you much, now in a moment I will give you part of the how in a message and if combined with the previous message /wiki page you should have no problems, but if you do I will give you more help j
[08:06] <ompaul> ust message me
[08:06] <setite> grrr no pasty!
[08:07] <kitsch> CookedGryphon: seems like it requires 30 MBs of hard-drive space, so im not quite sure if it will do some weird ipoddish stuff with it. but i googled and found an app that can make it work with gnome :)
[08:07] <sjg> hmmm caffiene
[08:07] <Jowi> Nameless12: in the pastebin - not here. that will temporarily ban/quiet you
[08:07] <Nameless12> Jowi, those other harddrives mount with out a problem, its just the sda1 thats having problems and it mounts fine in gnome
[08:07] <Nameless12> Jowi, whats the pastebin
[08:07] <setite> i shall sever thy manhood knave!
[08:07] <CookedGryphon> oh that's okay then
[08:07] <holycow> hey dudes
[08:07] <setite> holycow!!!
[08:07] <prolsd> ompaul, ah i see! i've read about those patents, but never really connected the dots. so here is where we users encounter it.
[08:07] <Nameless12> Jowi,  do you mean private message?
[08:07] <sjg> setite: ouch..
[08:07] <Jowi> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:07] <holycow> hey, why two kernel image updates in two working days?
[08:07] <prolsd> thanks for elaborating, ompaul.
[08:08] <setite> to trick you
[08:08] <setite> mwuhahaha
[08:08] <Answer> setite: decaf
[08:08] <setite> is there no log?
[08:08] <setite> no
[08:08] <sjg> screw decaf
[08:08] <setite> my mountain dew will not be decaffeinated!!!!
[08:08] <setite> moreeeeeeeee
[08:08] <sjg> setite, agreed
[08:08] <holycow> it hosed my nvidia drivers ... would of been a bad update if we had several hundred ubuntu installs
[08:08] <sjg> >>>>> ziiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
[08:09] <Nameless12> Jowi, its in the pastebin
[08:09] <CookedGryphon> Does anyone have any idea how i would go about speeding up the graphics in my laptop, its a built in SiS graphics chipset, and shares memory with the ram, i can set somethign called windows share from 8-64 mb in the bios and graphics mem up to 128mb. are there any good wikis for finding out what drivers i need tec? sry 4 the length :D
[08:09] <setite> holycow what hosed
[08:09] <mik3_> what mail protocol does gmail use, anyone know?
[08:09] <setite> CookedGryphon, new laptop
[08:09] <holycow> setite, nvidia drivers, i thought i  was pretty clear on that
[08:09] <sjg> holycow: Are you talking about breezy?
[08:09] <reiki_work> mik3_: you can pop gmail
[08:09] <setite> holycow, no what hosed them
[08:09] <holycow> sjg, are you kidding?
[08:09] <holycow> i'm at work
[08:09] <holycow> hoary
[08:09] <Jowi> Nameless12: fstab looks fine though. you can try something like this: /dev/sda1        /media/drive ext3 defaults,user,umask=000       0       0
[08:09] <holycow> updated kernel
[08:09] <sjg> wow..
[08:10] <reiki_work> mik3_: but you have to go into the settings on your gmail account ON GMAIL and set that up
[08:10] <setite> kernels... ooh i dont bugger with that
[08:10] <Answer> setite: Wild Cherry Pepsi doesn't have enough caffeine for you http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine_info1.shtml
[08:10] <robzon> damn! why breezy still has amaroK from ages ago? there have been 2 releases since 1.2.4.. ehh I hope it will be changed in final release...
[08:10] <Aragorn_Guardian> !kernel
[08:10] <setite> yea wild cherry is just for when i dont have the throat for reg. pepsi
[08:10] <sjg> eww wild cherry pepsi
[08:10] <Jowi> Nameless12: and try to put it last in your fstab just-in-case
[08:10] <Aragorn_Guardian> sorry...gonna to wiki...
[08:10] <sjg> Diet coke with lime thank you :P
[08:11] <setite> that site didnt work
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> setite, yeah thanks 4 that! it IS a new laptop, i can get 150 fps in glxgears, but the graphics were fine in windows,
[08:11] <setite> coke
[08:11] <setite> never
[08:11] <setite> 150
[08:11] <setite> i get 13k
[08:11] <setite> :)
[08:11] <setite> you need 500 in glx
[08:11] <Answer> setite: Wild Cherry Pepsi only has 38mg /12oz whereas MtnDew has 55.  DietCoke 45
[08:11] <setite> the fps is glx are not that of a real game
[08:11] <mik3_> hmmm pop isn't working on gmail for me
[08:11] <Nameless12> Jowi, will do, thanx for the help
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> yeah well that''s my problem
[08:11] <mik3_> is the server gmail.com or something else
[08:11] <wolki> robzon: new vesions were after upstream version freeze, so no. Backports after breezy release, probably
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> now does anyone have any answers?
[08:11] <setite> mik3_, did you enable it on your gmail account
[08:12] <mik3_> oh no
[08:12] <Answer> mik3_: You must enable your GMAIL Account for POP
[08:12] <mik3_> =/
[08:12] <Jowi> Nameless12: not sure if it'll work but it's my best shot for now :-)
[08:12] <setite> np.. same thing happened to me
[08:12] <setite> you gotta enable it on your gmail account
[08:12] <CookedGryphon> mik3_, it works 4 me, u have deffo opened gmail in ure browser and gone to the settings there nand said enable pop??
[08:12] <sjg> hmm diet coke is 45? nice
[08:12] <robzon> wolki: ehh... :(
[08:12] <Answer> mik3_: Third time I give you this link: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285
[08:12] <setite> i think i solved the problem thank you very much!
[08:12] <setite> haha
[08:12] <Answer> sjg: caffeine chart http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine_info1.shtml
[08:13] <sjg> ooo!
[08:13] <Answer> lateness?
[08:13] <setite> nvm
[08:13] <setite> la la laa
[08:13] <sjg> holy hell
[08:13] <Nameless12> Jowi, The problem is fixed on the new beta version of ubuntu so its not a biggie
[08:13] <sjg> gimme gimme redbull
[08:13] <setite> omg will this ever end
[08:13] <setite> redbull
[08:13] <setite> oh no
[08:13] <setite> i nearly died on that shit
[08:13] <setite> had a sip before a football game freshman year
[08:13] <sjg> Ive not drank any in like 2 years
[08:13] <Answer> I like that sugar-free mr pibb is jacked up in caffeine.
[08:13] <Talky> Hello guys :
[08:13] <Talky> :)
[08:14] <sjg> I got drunk on redbull and vodka
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> setite, don't slap me, we've told him already 3 times
[08:14] <setite> and i couldnt function the rest of the day for convulsions in my stomach
[08:14] <sjg> I HAD such a hangover
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> exactly thoise words
[08:14] <Talky> Anyone knows how to configure winmodem in ubuntu
[08:14] <m0biu5> anyone have a suggestion for a 1gig USB key partition?
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> Talky, i have spent the last week or so doing that
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> Talky, but i have it working!
[08:15] <wolki> robzon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63010
[08:15] <Talky> how come
[08:15] <Talky> CookedGryphon
[08:15] <CookedGryphon> Talky, sry was caught up there, lol
[08:15] <Talky> can you share it with me?
[08:15] <Answer> Talky: Lucent winmodem? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent?highlight=%28winmodem%29
[08:15] <CookedGryphon> Talky, do u kno what type it is, what does device manager report it as
[08:16] <CookedGryphon> there are lots of different types of winmodem
[08:16] <Talky> conexant
[08:16] <Talky> its conexant
[08:16] <setite> do i want to keep my current /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources or take the package maintaners version
[08:16] <Zaphod_> is it just me or do you guys find nautilus very unusable in ubuntu?
[08:16] <sorush20> why is it not possible to run multiple synaptic sessions
[08:17] <CookedGryphon> conexant.. hmm, i *think*slmodem will work with that, gimmie a min, there's a site where u can download a program that gives u info about the modem u have and tells u where to get the right drivers
[08:17] <Quinthius> Zaphod_: unusable in what way?
[08:17] <setite> sorush20, they lock the apt process
[08:17] <Quinthius> Zaphod_: it's just as usable as it is in any other distro
[08:17] <setite> sorush20, i presume it prevents confusion and breakage
[08:17] <ompaul> Zaphod_, where is arthur dent?
[08:18] <sjg> omg
[08:18] <sjg> thats alot of caffiene
[08:18] <ompaul> please talk the caffiene talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <Talky> ok CookedGryphon , am waiting
[08:19] <ompaul> s/talk the/take the/g
[08:19] <virgule> whats up there is 82 package updates in synaptic?! Someone must have worked hard lately ;)
[08:19] <ui> i had 98 updates
[08:19] <ui> :P
[08:19] <reiki_work> I hope updatemanager ain't still broke when I get home
[08:19] <CookedGryphon> Talky, http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[08:20] <CookedGryphon> Talky, try that site, if you don't understand anything feel free to come back and ask
[08:20] <holycow> this is one huge mofo of an update today overall too
[08:20] <virgule> Update Manager? do you mean this thing in the systray?
[08:20] <Talky> ok thnx CookedGryphon :)
[08:20] <virgule> mine worked only once post-install then never to be seen again
[08:20] <CookedGryphon> Talky, there are some issues that it doesn't address like with my modem it only seemt to work when u connect twice! and only from the command line for some reason
[08:21] <Zaphod_> unusable as in.. i am used to the BACK buttons in other window managers.. in ubuntu it is hard to do that. plus the size of the window cannot be fixed
[08:21] <holycow> how do you check reasoning for package updates besides the update utility? say you update via command line?
[08:21] <mik3_> why would unrar'ing a rar archive return a bunch of failures?
[08:21] <Talky> ic
[08:22] <setite> thank god dpkg resumes
[08:22] <Shrike__> mik3_, try sudo
[08:22] <Jowi> mik3_: are you using "unrar x firstrarfile.rar"?
[08:22] <setite> i thought i was gonan have to do the update all over
[08:22] <Quinthius> mik3_: would be helpful to know what the failures are..
[08:22] <linuxsbartley> I have finally gotten xdm to log to an error log.  It is showing that /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so  is missing. On searching, I find that the entire /usr/lib/X11/xdm directory is missing.
[08:22] <Talky> CookedGryphon, btw i had downloaded a linmodem from linuxant.com for ubuntu 2.6-5.10-386
[08:22] <Talky> but it doesn't work
[08:22] <mik3_> no i'm just unrar filename
[08:22] <mik3_> and sudo doesn't do it
[08:22] <Shrike__> mik3_, what error?
[08:22] <holycow> ah, never mind, got it
[08:22] <holycow> thx
[08:22] <MrJangles> hello, after i compile a c prgoram using gcc, how do i run it in a terminal?
[08:23] <CookedGryphon> Talky, what's the error?
[08:23] <Answer> ./binaryname
[08:23] <mik3_> Extracting  bush - sixteen stone/Bush - Sixteen Stone - 12 - X-Girlfriend.mp3 Failed
[08:23] <robzon> wolki: ok thanks :) I guess I'll just compile it myself.. don't like the idea of messing up package system though :/
[08:23] <MrJangles> thx
[08:23] <Talky> CookedGryphon, it just tried to dial out as hear it
[08:23] <Talky> as i*
[08:23] <virgule> Can I have a RSS feed for package updates? I already have Ubuntu Security Notices from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/usn.xml and I want more ;)
[08:23] <linuxsbartley> should /usr/lib/X11/xdm exist on a 5.10 server installation if you have installed xdm?
[08:23] <Talky> but it didn't succeed
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> What command is it to switch Display Managers?
[08:23] <Talky> and no connection in the end
[08:23] <holycow> virgule, very good point
[08:24] <mik3_> Shrike__: \Extracting  bush - sixteen stone/Bush - Sixteen Stone - 12 - X-Girlfriend.mp3 Failed
[08:24] <holycow> not sure, i would love rss on that
[08:24] <MrJangles> when i'm trying to connect to a wireless network, i get an error "cannot get ip address" (i've never had this problem before)
[08:24] <CookedGryphon> Talky, go to a terminal and type plog then paste the output from that in #flood
[08:24] <Answer> CookedGryphon: www.pastebin.com
[08:24] <Answer> !pastebin
[08:24] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:24] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: xdm is not in /usr/lib. it work anyway
[08:25] <Talky> ok CookedGryphon, i will :)
[08:25] <virgule> answered my own question :http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/ has a couple more "RSS feeds for the -changes mailing lists." hooray!
[08:25] <Talky> thnx i am just going to do thata
[08:25] <evian> Zaphod, where are you from?
[08:25] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: so "no" it should not exist.
[08:25] <Talky> thnx CookedGryphon
[08:25] <Talky> bbl
[08:25] <mik3_> why would a rar file return as Failed when i tried to unrar it?
[08:26] <CookedGryphon> Talky, i haven't fixed anythign yet, am just trying to work out what's wrong
[08:26] <prolsd> maybe because it's corrupted
[08:26] <evian> I knew a Zaphod in Oregon once
[08:26] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, my problem, is that it is not working.  I get what looks like 3 errors.  The first is the missing libXdmGreet.so. Followed by xdm error: Server for display echo terminated unexpectedly: 1  and then followed by xdm error: Unknown session exit code2304 from process 5357
[08:26] <CookedGryphon> Answer, can't b bothered with pastebin
[08:26] <virgule> mik3: corrupted file?
[08:26] <shinmen> Anyone with info on the sparc port?
[08:27] <Quinthius> mik3_: you might need to use unrar-nonfree
[08:27] <Shrike__> mik3_, looks like the RIAA is on to you..If you need a character witness let me know =)
[08:27] <malverian[work] > Oy.. is there some script that will look for broken dependencies and fix them (eg.. missing .so files or whateer)
[08:28] <mik3_> bleh wtf Skipping    bush - sixteen stone/Bush - Sixteen Stone - 12 - X-Girlfriend.mp3
[08:28] <mik3_> now it skips
[08:28] <mik3_> what next, it's going to put on a leotard and do pilades?
[08:28] <mik3_> *bada-dum*
[08:28] <Quinthius> ...
[08:28] <mik3_> haha
[08:29] <mik3_> why would it fail then skip?
[08:29] <CookedGryphon> Does anybvody know of a better pdf reader than xpdf? i would like to b able to spin the pdf on its side then i can read in bed with my laptop :D
[08:29] <jc-denton> in which package is enquote
[08:29] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: i just tried xdm today and it works fine. try to re-install it. and in /etc/rc2.d/ create a symlink for xdm as S20xdm
[08:29] <jc-denton> or how can i figure out that myself
[08:29] <Quinthius> CookedGryphon: gpdf or evince seem to be the best options and even they seem a bit lacking
[08:29] <jc-denton> apt-file did not seem to work
[08:30] <Zibby> Been looking in the wiki, and I haven't found the answer yet...what are Multiverse packages?
[08:30] <fejaor> Hi...I having a problem with my cdrom, every time I boot ubuntu I see this line coming into screen: "/dev/cdrom/: No such file or directory"...how can I fix that??
[08:30] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: you can also try S99xdm if it hangs.
[08:30] <CookedGryphon> Quinthius, thanks
[08:30] <jc-denton> forogot about enquote
[08:30] <setite> breezy broke my nvidia driver
[08:30] <jc-denton> forget
[08:31] <CookedGryphon> fejaor, that sounds like a mistake in ure /etc/hdparm perhaps?
[08:31] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, k.  Have done all that.  no go.  thx. though.
[08:31] <setite> haha thank god im a seasoned expert in nano
[08:31] <fejaor> CookedGryphon, I dunno
[08:31] <mik3_> whats the correct syntax to unrar something
[08:31] <setite> !nvidia
[08:31] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:31] <Answer> !multiverse
[08:31] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[08:31] <Answer> !repositories
[08:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:31] <CookedGryphon> fejaor, does the error come after Setting Drive parameters... ?
[08:31] <Answer> !tell Zibby about repositories
[08:32] <setite> wtf... what is nvidia called in breezy
[08:32] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: strange. since i'm using ubuntu 5.10 as you do. tested with both 386 and 686 versions
[08:32] <Answer> setite: nvidia-glx
[08:32] <setite> gah i think my repos are buggered
[08:32] <mik3_> whats the correct syntax to unrar something
[08:32] <sorush20> how do I fix gnome
[08:32] <setite> all i know is i had to change from nvidia to nv to get into kde
[08:33] <sorush20> it will load in su but will not load in noraml user
[08:33] <evian> I am new to ubuntu. How come synaptic is suddenly segfaulting on launch?
[08:33] <Zibby> That's great, but neither of those links explain the purpose of multiverse.
[08:34] <virgule> soruch20: I would clear ~/.cache and try again.. but consider I only know that much
[08:34] <CookedGryphon> mik3_, try "man unrar" that will tell u
[08:34] <Jowi> mik3_: unrar x filename.rar
[08:34] <setite> all my fonts are huge in breezy
[08:34] <setite> haha nasty
[08:35] <setite> and glxgears wont run
[08:35] <setite> wtf
[08:35] <setite> GLC missing from display blad
[08:35] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm - i think i am missing the plugins to play mp3s - did they not come automatically with the install of 5.04?
[08:35] <Answer> Lunar_Lamp: I like xmms for mp3s
[08:35] <Lunar_Lamp> Answer, it just crashes when i try...
[08:35] <Lunar_Lamp> i installed it using synaptic
[08:35] <CookedGryphon> setite, HA! get a new computer mr, i can get 100 in glxgears
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> least mine works :P
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> 1000*
[08:36] <darkheart_> !tell Lunar_Lamp about restricted
[08:36] <setite> haha funny man
[08:36] <setite> what the dpkg to reconfigrue x
[08:36] <mik3_> death to rar archives damnit
[08:36] <mik3_> what a waste of a download
[08:36] <fejaor> CookedGryphon, This error came after I finished installing ubuntu
[08:36] <mik3_> and death to the RIAA
[08:36] <Ubuntu_U> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <darkheart_> setite sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <Jowi> setite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> i kno!
[08:36] <CookedGryphon> lol
[08:37] <virgule> I have 34 in glxgear ;/
[08:37] <setite> thanks darkheart_ and Jowi
[08:37] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, I am assuming that you did a full install?  I did a server and added the same packages that made 5.04 work w/ xdm but it doesnt work on 5.10.
[08:37] <qmanman> holy crap 139 updates available?
[08:37] <qmanman> wow
[08:37] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks darkheart_ i hadn't realised that mp3 would be restricted
[08:37] <Ubuntu_U> virgule - lol - i know the feeling recently fought with a shiny new ati card.
[08:38] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: yes
[08:38] <setite> how do i find out my keyboard layour
[08:38] <virgule> hehe.. I thought my 82 updates were outrageous.. 139 !!!
[08:38] <setite> i have one of the logitech media keyboards
[08:38] <CookedGryphon> fejaor, did u still ahve the disk in? did it stop the install or what?
[08:38] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, well, that tells me I am missing something but no idea what yet.  Guess I will reload 5.04 and get it working again and output a package list to compare.
[08:38] <virgule> Ubuntu_U: ATI Mach64 6MB couple to a 300mhz CPU.. zoom zoom!
[08:38] <darkheart_> Lunar_Lamp Yes =) mp3 is not open source...if you want an open source format, try ogg.
[08:39] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, thx for the help.
[08:39] <CookedGryphon> virgule, i'm afraid to look at mine, i still had 10 or so to update a few days ago
[08:39] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: np
[08:39] <setite> my fonts work
[08:39] <fejaor> CookedGryphon, it fully installed and the disk is out.....the problem is that when I inserted a disk, it recognize the disk....but now that Im installing some updates is asking me for the installation cd, I put it in the cdrom but it doesn't read it
[08:39] <setite> int eh browser.. they ar enice again.. just he menus that are ugly
[08:40] <Answer> fejaor: In synaptic, open up the repositories remove the CD option, add all the net repositories
[08:40] <Jowi> fejaor: if you want to install only from the servers you can disable the cd by commenting it out in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do a sudo apt-get update
[08:40] <virgule> setite: I think   echo $LANG will show that.
[08:41] <CookedGryphon> fejaor, you shpould be able to remove the cdrom source from you rsources.list and it will download the packages instead
[08:42] <CookedGryphon> oh u just said that ah well
[08:42] <libervisco> Why has Ubuntu so quickly became the most popular distro around?
[08:43] <libervisco> :)
[08:43] <virgule> We like brown?
[08:43] <CookedGryphon> cos of the great friendly community:D
[08:43] <Ubuntu_U> It just works? - grin
[08:44] <virgule> ^^^ yeah to all that. I would add apt-get $VACCUM rpm's balls
[08:44] <fejaor> CookedGryphon, Does this solve my initial problem too??
[08:44] <CookedGryphon> fejaor, what was your initial problem?
[08:44] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, how can i play mpeg and wmv's? :D
[08:45] <Ubuntu_U> if only ati would agree to play nicely with linux. - doh!
[08:45] <CookedGryphon> ThePyromaniac, get w32codecs
[08:45] <Zibby> !restrictedformats
[08:45] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[08:46] <fejaor> CookedGryphon, Plus I don't have my Cd Option in the net repositories.................the initial problem was a line in the startup saying "/dev/cdrom:no such file or directory"
[08:46] <CookedGryphon> can you read any cds?
[08:48] <Hoxzer^^> Hi
[08:48] <Answer> lo
[08:48] <Hoxzer^^> how should I install win32-codecs?
[08:48] <ThePyromaniac> thanks dude
[08:48] <Hoxzer^^> what repo I should use?
[08:49] <Answer> Hoxzer^^ why do u have to choose a repo
[08:49] <libervisco> connection broke
[08:49] <Hoxzer^^> Answer: I cannot find them with synapic :E
[08:49] <anybody> Hoxzer, I believe its in extras now maybe multiverse
[08:50] <BlueEel> is it possible to install ubuntu on a system that cannot boot from cd?
[08:50] <Hoxzer^^> anybody: what is the address of extras?
[08:50] <ThePyromaniac> i can find that package, or win32, or anything like that
[08:50] <anybody> Hoxzer, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[08:51] <RagePrblm> Can anyone help me with how to change the resolution before the gui starts? It loads a res my monitor will not support
[08:51] <Ubuntu_U> win32codecs?
[08:51] <fejaor> Some other problem guys....is there any way to get the updates for Gaim Internet Messenger by using the Update Manager???
[08:51] <gehel2> hello ! I have a soundblaster audigy NX (usb sound card) and I get a lot of noise when playing it. Do you know of any docs on how to make it sound better ?
[08:51] <mik3_> hmmmm thunderbird seems slower compared to evolution
[08:51] <Answer> RagePrblm: xf86config
[08:51] <Quinthius> RagePrblm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:51] <mik3_> \
[08:51] <RagePrblm> Thank you Ill give'r a try
[08:51] <geekchic9> I have a question: What is the root password when using the live CD? Or must I use sudo?
[08:52] <gehel2> geekchic9, use sudo
[08:52] <Quinthius> geekchic9: sudo
[08:52] <geekchic9> thanks, all
[08:52] <Answer> geekchic9: from the Applications -> System Tools -> Root Terminal
[08:53] <Hoxzer^^> strange :D
[08:53] <mik3_> anyone know if you can specify pop/imap ports in evolution?
[08:53] <RagePrblm> Ubuntu bash(prompt?) says xserver-xorg is not installed and no info is available
[08:53] <Hoxzer^^> for some reason I cannot choose multiverse and universe repos ;/
[08:53] <Hoxzer^^> synapic just changes them back when I have changed them :O
[08:53] <Hoxzer^^> can somebody help
[08:54] <mik3_> anyone know if you can specify pop/imap ports in evolution?
[08:54] <fejaor> Some other problem guys....is there any way to get the updates for Gaim Internet Messenger by using the Update Manager???
[08:54] <BlueEel> I wanted to install ubuntu on an old pc, but i just realised it can't boot from cd. can i make a boot-floppy to install from ?
[08:54] <sorush20> guys I am unable to load ubuntu
[08:54] <anybody> Hoxzer^^, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list make changes; sudo apt-get update; then should work
[08:54] <sorush20> gnome can somone help
[08:54] <CookedGryphon> !tell ThePyromaniac about repos
[08:54] <sorush20> it dosen't load fully and all I see is the brown background and nothing else is loading.
[08:55] <gehel2> mik3_, sure you can !
[08:55] <mik3_> gehel2 : how!?!?!
[08:55] <mik3_> i don't see the option in account management
[08:56] <Answer> mik3_:  hostname:port
[08:56] <Centaur5> Did Breezy go back to the old fashioned root?
[08:56] <Kyral> no
[08:56] <Kyral> sudo is here to stay
[08:56] <gehel2> mik3_, host:port ... I didnt use evolution for a long long time ...
[08:56] <Kyral> and learn how to like it!
[08:56] <Centaur5> Kyral: So there must be something wrong with my installation then?
[08:57] <Kyral> eeeh?
[08:57] <Fred|Fr3d> hey Deansweb2004 ;)
[08:57] <mik3_> oh ok
[08:57] <mik3_> thanks yo
[08:57] <evian> how do I get dot files to show up in a gnome file chooser panel?
[08:57] <mik3_> i don't like thunderbird
[08:57] <Fred|Fr3d> evian: view -> show hidden files ;)
[08:58] <Answer> ls -al
[08:58] <evian> Thanks Fred!
[08:58] <BlueEel> I wanted to install ubuntu on an old pc, but i just realised it can't boot from cd. can i make a boot-floppy to install from ?
[08:58] <Fred|Fr3d> no problem evian
[08:58] <Hoxzer^^> anybody: what changes I should make :O
[08:58] <Centaur5> Kyral: Well I seem to be having problems opening things my user doesn't have access to
[08:58] <RagePrblm> Is there another way to configure the screen resolution of the ubuntu desktop in the prompt without using xserver-org - because Apparently I do not have it installed
[08:58] <Answer> RagePrblm: man xf86config
[08:59] <RagePrblm> I typed it in, it doesnt do anything :\
[08:59] <Kyral> Centaur5, there is a reason for that...
[08:59] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, why does my sudo <command> never work? i get asked for a pass and i've tried all the passes for all the users and none work :\
[08:59] <Answer> RagePrblm:  emacs /etc/X11/xf86config
[08:59] <RagePrblm> bash: xf86config: command not found   :(
[08:59] <RagePrblm> oh
[08:59] <Centaur5> Kyral: Cause it's not finished?
[08:59] <Kyral> eh?
[08:59] <RagePrblm> Im an idiot
[08:59] <sorush20> how do I get apt-get install synaptic to keep all the downloaded packages,
[09:00] <anybody> Hoxzer^^, add multiverse by copying and pasting the link for universe just change univere to multi, then copy and paste the link I sent you for extras as well
[09:00] <anybody> universe to multiverse
[09:00] <Fred|Fr3d> why does my sudo <command> never work? i get asked for a pass and i've tried the root pass and my user pass....
[09:01] <Kyral> Fred|Fr3d, there IS no root pass
[09:01] <Answer> sorush20:  apt-get with --no-remove option
[09:01] <Fred|Fr3d> Kyral: there is on mine.
[09:01] <Kyral> ....are you sure you are using Ubuntu?
[09:01] <johns^> Fred|Fr3d: same user als you entered during install
[09:01] <sorush20> Answer: will that set this up for the synaptic ...
[09:01] <Kyral> 'cause the default config the sudo password is your userpassword
[09:01] <Hoxzer^^> anybody: there are 3 multiverses's :E
[09:01] <johns^> btw, I've got a root pass also
[09:02] <fejaor> Some other problem guys....is there any way to get the updates for Gaim Internet Messenger by using the Update Manager???
[09:02] <mik3_> <3 evoluion
[09:02] <Fred|Fr3d> I set a pass for root. and i've tried my user pass and the root pass and neither work
[09:02] <Kyral> if you havent enabled it....
[09:02] <Kyral> This is why I don't enable root
[09:02] <mik3_> fejaor : apt-get upgrade is all you need
[09:02] <Kyral> its simple!
[09:02] <johns^> Fred|Fr3d: check /etc/sudoers
[09:02] <RagePrblm> Ive gone into /etc/ and there is no x11 dir, I went into /etc/emacs/ no x11 there, or in /etc/emacs21 and no cd /emacs/ either working - Im a total noob; sorry
[09:02] <sorush20> Answer: what about when new packages become available will the old ones be deleted automatically new ones downloaded...
[09:02] <Answer> sorush20: In Synaptic,  Settings, Preferences,  Files tab "Leave all downloaded packages in the cache"
[09:02] <setite> damn... i never wanna spend that long buggering with nano again
[09:02] <Centaur5> Kyral: Root was enabled by default on my installation I did yesterday
[09:02] <Fred|Fr3d> ok thanks johns^
[09:02] <setite> im never copying and pasting monitor modes fromt eh forum again
[09:02] <anybody> Hoxzer^^,  sorry exchange server issues maybe someone else can help =)
[09:02] <johns^> RagePrblm: vi /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:03] <fejaor> mik3_, is still showing me that there's couple of upgrades for GAIM when I open it
[09:03] <setite> ive broken xorg.conf liek that literally more than 50 times.. and i still try
[09:03] <RagePrblm> just type all that in johns^?
[09:03] <johns^> yup. but vi is a bit ehh awkward for the novice user
[09:03] <setite> is there somethign like firetune for linux
[09:03] <RagePrblm> oh well thats why I have you
[09:03] <Kyral> Centaur5, did you do an Expert install?
[09:03] <dawkirst> Hello people.
[09:03] <Centaur5> Kyral: Nope, I just hit enter and did the normal
[09:03] <Fred|Fr3d> i added my user to the sudoers file using the same format as the root line. it should work now right?
[09:04] <johns^> maybe you should install nano first
[09:04] <johns^> or mc
[09:04] <Kyral> Centaur5, under what install? Hoary? Breezy?
[09:04] <Centaur5> breezy
[09:04] <Kyral> Preview Release?
[09:04] <Centaur5> yes
[09:04] <Answer> nano should be installed by default
[09:04] <johns^> Fred|Fr3d: should :)
[09:04] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks johns^ :D it does :D
[09:04] <Hoxzer^^> :E
[09:04] <RagePrblm> Johns Ill take any suggestion I can right now, Im not sure I understand how to install it though
[09:04] <Hoxzer^^> aargh
[09:04] <Kyral> Centaur5, I did a Preview Release install the other day with the default options and it didn't enable root
[09:04] <johns^> apt-get install mc
[09:04] <Hoxzer^^> I'll solve that tommorrow
[09:04] <Hoxzer^^> or can somebody help?
[09:05] <johns^> that's a norton commander like file manager
[09:05] <RagePrblm> doesnt apt-get require an internet connection
[09:05] <Centaur5> Kyral, Yeah, I don't understand it.  How do I change it back?
[09:05] <Kyral> yes
[09:05] <dawkirst> I run a amd64; my Firefox can't seem to download the necessary plugins by itself. It directs me to the Macromedia Flash Player site for a manual download. Must I proceed with this, or does someone have alternative advice?
[09:05] <setite> did tristan fix his issue?
[09:05] <setite> now im having the same problem
[09:05] <setite> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[09:05] <Kyral> you have a root account yes?
[09:05] <Centaur5> yes
[09:05] <darkheart_> RagePrblm Only if it's downloading from a remote host
[09:05] <RagePrblm> oh I see
[09:05] <setite> see stupid breezy did break something
[09:05] <Answer> RagePrblm: IRC requires an internet connection to
[09:05] <RagePrblm> err how do I leave that vi command thing now that I can finally edit this file
[09:05] <Answer> :q
[09:05] <Fred|Fr3d> how do i fix X11 over SSH? i get a big error about localhost:10 closing/killing the connection
[09:05] <RagePrblm> Answer I am running two different machines ;)
[09:06] <Answer> RagePrblm: to quit vi type ":q"
[09:06] <Kyral> you can login to the command line by typing root, right (Sorry for the stupid questions, I just need to eliminate all possibities)
[09:06] <RagePrblm> thanks Answer
[09:06] <Hoxzer^^> what should I change in sources.list so I could get universe and multiverse support?
[09:06] <Kyral> ubotu tell Hoxzer^^ about Repos
[09:06] <dawkirst> I run a amd64; my Firefox can't seem to download the necessary plugins by itself. It directs me to the Macromedia Flash Player site for a manual download. Must I proceed with this, or does someone have alternative advice?
[09:06] <Fred|Fr3d> why does X11 over SSH give me this? : "X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
[09:07] <Answer> !tell Hoxzer^^ about repositories
[09:07] <Centaur5> Kyral: no problem, I know how to log in as root.  My problem is that whenever I want to change the settings under system -> administration the programs don't open
[09:07] <Answer> Centaur5: the password it asks for is the current user, not hte root password
[09:07] <Kyral> Its still using sudo I think
[09:07] <RagePrblm> Couldnt find package mc :(
[09:07] <Kyral> this is why I tell people NOT to enable root
[09:08] <johns^> hm maybe it's in universe or something
[09:08] <Answer> RagePrblm: nano is a simple enough text editor.  nano /etc/X11/xf86config-4
[09:08] <Fred|Fr3d> why does X11 over SSH give me this?: X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[09:08] <Centaur5> Answer, I just tried that and the password box disappears but nothing opens
[09:08] <johns^> Fred|Fr3d: are you trying to start X while logged in with ssh?
[09:08] <Answer> Centaur5: what are u trying to do
[09:09] <johns^> try gdm or (if it's allready running) killall gdm and then gdm
[09:09] <johns^> as root
[09:09] <dawkirst> I run a amd64; my Firefox can't seem to download the necessary plugins by itself. It directs me to the Macromedia Flash Player site for a manual download. Must I proceed with this, or does someone have alternative advice?
[09:09] <RagePrblm> Answer I think I understood vi better lol
[09:09] <johns^> dawkirst: proceed :)
[09:09] <Centaur5> Answer: Now I just tried going into the Networking program and it never even asked for the password, it just went down in the taskbar then closed
[09:09] <anybody> Hoxzer^^,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[09:09] <sorush20> if I cancel the root login option will I be able to log into gnome as a normal user..
[09:10] <a-l-p-h-a> is there a functionality like google desktop search, but for linux?
[09:10] <Hackmo> hey all
[09:10] <BlueEel> dawkirst: i don't think they've released a 64-bit version of flash yet...
[09:10] <johns^> a-l-p-h-a: locate
[09:10] <johns^> :)
[09:10] <Seveas> a-l-p-h-a, yes, beagle
[09:10] <dawkirst> BlueEel: damn...
[09:10] <Seveas> will be introduced in breezy
[09:10] <Gundjah> I want to untar 3 firely sizable tarballs. What was the way to do it with one command line? so tar | tar | tar or tar && tar && tar?
[09:11] <Seveas> tar && tar && tar
[09:11] <Hackmo> I just installed breexy tonight and am having a problem with my webcam.  It's a phillips toucam pro 2, when I try to use it a grey image is displayed where the camera image should be displayed
[09:11] <Hackmo> annyone know what is going on?
[09:11] <anybody> no
[09:11] <RagePrblm> Does virtual pc not support resolutions of 1280x1024 or something, ive gotten linux to run on vpc before :\
[09:11] <Fred|Fr3d> johns^: no im logged in from this pc onto my other one running linux, and i type into PuTTY: xclock
[09:11] <Fred|Fr3d> as shown in the linux.org how-to
[09:11] <Gundjah> Tnx Seveas. Was piping then for redirection?
[09:11] <johns^> ah ok, that won't work
[09:11] <ThePyromaniac> darn it guys, i have added all repos available and i cant find w32codecs still
[09:12] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, are you running an X server on your win machine?
[09:12] <Fred|Fr3d> how do i know? im running gnome, dunno about X
[09:12] <Answer> ThePyromaniac: what are you trying to do
[09:12] <RagePrblm> ubuntu doesnt like vpc johns^?
[09:12] <johns^> vpc/
[09:12] <johns^> ?
[09:12] <RagePrblm> Virtual pc
[09:13] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: im running gnome, dunno about X. how do i find out?
[09:13] <RagePrblm> I created a fixed size partition for ubuntu and installed it on that while in windoze
[09:13] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, putty on a linux system ?!?
[09:13] <johns^> I use vnc and offcourse remote logins with gdm
[09:13] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: no im on my windows system at the moment
[09:13] <ThePyromaniac> Answer: trying to get it to play WMV files, think i might have it though
[09:13] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, are you rinning an x server *on your windows system*
[09:13] <Seveas> please read
[09:13] <Fred|Fr3d> no.
[09:13] <Seveas> then you can't run gui applications.
[09:14] <Fred|Fr3d> ah
[09:14] <Butcherbird-Jr> anybody: When you were logged in the other day as Thrush I followed your advice and now my comp wont boot. All I get is ones and zeros on my screen
[09:14] <Seveas> you can however install freenx on your linux system and an nx client on your windows system
[09:14] <RagePrblm> when my ubuntu screen login pops up I get weird colors
[09:14] <anybody> Butcherbird-Jr, binary dude live it, learn it, love it
[09:14] <Seveas> you can then get a remote desktop
[09:14] <odatubuntu> hello everyone
[09:15] <Fred|Fr3d> ok thanks Seveas. I can use VNC atm, but i would prefer to use SSH when im elsewhere, going over the net
[09:15] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, freenx uses ssh
[09:15] <Fred|Fr3d> where/how do i get it?
[09:15] <odatubuntu> was hoping someone could help me with my graphics card
[09:15] <Seveas> and it's blazing fast, it kicks vnc's ass big time
[09:15] <cyphase> how do you dual boot windows with linux already installed?
[09:15] <cyphase> ubuntu more specifically
[09:15] <Seveas> freenx for hoary: 'deb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ ./'
[09:15] <Kyral> very carefully
[09:15] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks
[09:15] <Seveas> freenx for breezy: 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ./'
[09:16] <Seveas> nxclient: www.nomachine.com
[09:16] <Kyral> what is FreeNX?
[09:16] <Hoxzer^^> :E
[09:16] <Hoxzer^^> what repo has win32-codecs?
[09:16] <Hoxzer^^> strange
[09:16] <Seveas> Kyral, (windows,linux,mac)-to-linux remote desktop
[09:16] <Kyral> its w32codecs
[09:16] <Kyral> faster than VNC?
[09:16] <Seveas> million times
[09:16] <odatubuntu> anyone here have any experience with nvidia
[09:16] <Kyral> hmmm :D
[09:16] <Kyral> yah I do
[09:17] <Seveas> it gives a complete responsive desktop over a modem connection(!)
[09:17] <Answer> odatubuntu: sudo apt-get check nvidia-glx
[09:17] <odatubuntu> kyral: i am getting a weird error
[09:17] <Kyral> Let alone within a Campus network
[09:17] <Kyral> odatubuntu, are you in Breezy by any chance?
[09:17] <odatubuntu> yea
[09:17] <sorush20> what is the spelling package using used by open office
[09:17] <Kyral> And lemme guess, NVidia-glx isn;t working?
[09:17] <sjg> Within campus it would be blazing fast.
[09:17] <odatubuntu> kyral: yes i am
[09:18] <Gundjah> If I untar a tarball in directory ( tar -xf Directory/Tarball.tar ) will they unpack into the directory it is or into the directory I am?
[09:18] <Kyral> The NVidia drivers have to be manually compiled using the package from NVidia.com
[09:18] <odatubuntu> kyral: yea thats right
[09:18] <Kyral> Then whats the problem?
[09:19] <setite> compiled
[09:19] <odatubuntu> kyral: answering your first question
[09:19] <setite> ?
[09:19] <mz2> Gundjah, man tar
[09:19] <setite> how do you do that...
[09:19] <mz2> Gundjah, although the answer is in the working directory:)
[09:19] <Kyral> odatubuntu, then what is the problem?
[09:19] <odatubuntu> kyral: do i then need to uninstall ubuntu's nvidia glx
[09:19] <setite> kyral... im having the same issue... i was just gonna install the latest .run from the CLI
[09:19] <Kyral> yes
[09:19] <thenuke> Gundjah: tar -xf Directory/Tarball.tar tries to untar  Tarball.tar from ./Directory/  of course
[09:19] <Kyral> setite, it works
[09:19] <setite> i uninstalled them completely...
[09:19] <Kyral> and its easy
[09:19] <Answer> sorush20: The spell checker for OpenOffice might be "aspell" or "myspell"   I dunno
[09:19] <setite> compile or use the .run
[09:19] <Kyral> 'cept you have to export CC
[09:19] <Kyral> use the run
[09:20] <setite> export cc?
[09:20] <Kyral> the run will compile them for you
[09:20] <Gundjah> Tnx mz2 & thenuke :-)
[09:20] <Kyral> Yah
[09:20] <anybody> someone know off hand the file that linux stores past commands in? Or is it different for each shell?
[09:20] <Kyral> the kernel was compiled using gcc-3.4
[09:20] <setite> export cc?
[09:20] <arachnion> Hello there
[09:20] <setite> i have gcc... is that what you mean
[09:20] <Kyral> a default Breezy install only has GCC 4
[09:20] <arachnion> to get my printer detected, what should I do?
[09:20] <setite> oh i need to get something else?
[09:20] <Kyral> you need to get gcc-3.4
[09:20] <Kyral> and yes they will coexist nicely
[09:21] <arachnion> It's connected through USB
[09:21] <evian> anybody: .bash_history is one
[09:21] <Kyral> so once you apt-get gcc-3.4 and the kernel headers for your kernel
[09:21] <evian> different for each shell I guess
[09:21] <NiLz> isn't mpeg codec installed by default?
[09:21] <setite> oh they do.. ok installing gcc-3.4
[09:21] <setite> ok added 3.4.. is that all... now install?
[09:22] <Kyral> drop to a VT, kill X, type CC=gcc-3.4, then export CC, then sudo run the .run
[09:22] <anybody> evian, guess i should have checked my home directory =) ty
[09:22] <odatubuntu> kyral: what happens when breezy is official and the have working glx for it will it want to uninstall what i have?
[09:22] <setite> well my x was broke
[09:22] <Kyral> odatubuntu, I don't think so
[09:22] <setite> so when i ctrl_alt_bksp i will be in cli
[09:22] <Kyral> just ctrl+alt+f1
[09:22] <Kyral> and sudo killall gdm
[09:22] <Kyral> NOT NOW!!
[09:22] <pr0tocol> hey all
[09:23] <setite> haha you talking to him?
[09:23] <Kyral> Answer, it kills X
[09:23] <pr0tocol> question:  I'm trying to patch lilo but when I try I get Hunk #1 FAILED at 53.
[09:23] <pr0tocol> patch: **** Can't rename file Makefile to Makefile.orig : Permission denied
[09:23] <pr0tocol> any suggestions?
[09:23] <setite> ok well i need to kill kdm.. i dont have gdm
[09:23] <Kyral> kdm, whatever
[09:23] <darkheart> pr0tocol Sounds like you should be using 'sudo' or something.
[09:23] <Answer> killall *dm
[09:23] <Answer> hah
[09:23] <setite> ok i mgoin gnow
[09:23] <pr0tocol> darkheart, tried that
[09:24] <pr0tocol> darkheart, same thing
[09:24] <odatubuntu> kyral: ok and i have to uninstall ubuntu nvidia glx first    do i have to restart before compiling the drivers from nvidia?
[09:24] <darkheart> pr0tocol What's the command you are running?
[09:24] <Kyral> uninstall NVidia-GLx
[09:24] <pr0tocol> sudo zcat lilo-colors-21.4.4_v0.2.diff.gz | patch -p1
[09:24] <Kyral> ..someone should write a howto
[09:24] <Kyral> wait...
[09:24] <evian> anyone know a web page that summarizes how to get a new ubuntu install to open standard windows files (multimedia etc.), install java and so forth to be kinda like linspire?
[09:25] <jpjacobs> Hi all!
[09:25] <jpfarias> hi!
[09:25] <pr0tocol> darkheart, any ideas?
[09:25] <jpfarias> I've upgraded my hoary install to the breezy
[09:25] <setite> that failed miserably
[09:25] <darkheart> pr0tocol pr0tocol I don't think sudo can see past the |
[09:25] <war-totem> what c compiler should i tell apt-get to get?
[09:25] <setite> all thsi shit about kernels
[09:25] <setite> whayt am i missing
[09:25] <jpfarias> but I think there's something not fully working
[09:25] <jpfarias> like the USplash
[09:25] <pr0tocol> darkheart, then what shall I do, oh powerful one?
[09:25] <war-totem> when trying to install comical i get  error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:25] <jpjacobs> I've got a friend with a little problem: he was updating his kernel, but his pc froze, and while rebooting grub spawned error 13...any suggestions?
[09:26] <jpfarias> it is installed, but it does not appears at boot
[09:26] <Kyral> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 <----LOOK HERE FOR NVIDIA UNDER BREEZY!
[09:26] <setite> Kyral, you still ther
[09:26] <setite> k
[09:26] <anybody> evian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com if its not there, when you find the answer add it =)
[09:26] <darkheart> pr0tocol Can you log into a root shell?
[09:26] <odatubuntu> kyral: do i need to make a special directory for the nvidia file i downloaded before i compile or can i compile it then get rid of the file?
[09:26] <jpjacobs> jpfarias, owkay, but what to do to solve the prob?
[09:26] <Kyral> you can compile then get rid of the file
[09:27] <odatubuntu> k
[09:27] <Kyral> but its quite handy really..
[09:27] <jpfarias> jpjacobs, I dunno
[09:27] <jpfarias> jpjacobs, that is what I was about to ask
[09:27] <pr0tocol> darkheart, nope
[09:27] <jpfarias> how can I setup USplash to load at boot?
[09:28] <darkheart> pr0tocol Applications -> System Tools -> Root Terminal
[09:28] <Seveas> jpfarias, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(unsme -r)
[09:28] <Seveas> jpfarias, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:28] <evian> anybody: ok, I will add it if it isn't there, when I find out
[09:28] <war-totem> when trying to install comical i get  error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:28] <jpfarias> Seveas, thanks
[09:28] <pr0tocol> darkheart, just did a sudo aterm :P
[09:28] <war-totem> what should i tell apt-get to get?
[09:29] <Seveas> war-totem, build-essential
[09:29] <Seveas> darkheart, that evil thing has been removed from breezy :)
[09:29] <cyphase> *sigh*
[09:29] <darkheart> pr0tocol And can you patch it in that shell? No need to run sudo as root either.
[09:29] <cyphase> i hate my cousins teacher
[09:29] <darkheart> Seveas The root term?
[09:29] <rambo3> nice litle distro ubuntu
[09:29] <setite> !samba
[09:29] <ubotu> I heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:29] <Seveas> darkheart, the menu entry for root terminal
[09:29] <pr0tocol> darkheart, year I can...did it already...now have a problem...tons of Hunk Failures
[09:29] <darkheart> cyphase That was 99% random
[09:30] <cyphase> she's installing windows right now because he requires his students to use photoshop
[09:30] <cyphase> can't use gimp
[09:30] <Seveas> cyphase, gimpshop :)
[09:30] <cyphase> they need a screenshot proving they used photoshop
[09:30] <Seveas> :o
[09:30] <war-totem> ok thanks ill try it
[09:30] <darkheart> Seveas I like having root around =) I can understand limiting users that haven't had previous experience w/ Linux though.
[09:30] <odatubuntu> kyral: i need to do this from the command line before entering xwindows?
[09:30] <pr0tocol> darkheart, mind if I msg you the output?
[09:30] <Seveas> cyphase, what an a*holes... :)
[09:30] <cyphase> very
[09:30] <darkheart> Seveas Of course, I never actually use that menu entry...
[09:30] <Kyral> odatubuntu, from the commandline
[09:30] <cyphase> he's an idiot
[09:31] <cyphase> doesn't like open-source and linux
[09:31] <darkheart> pr0tocol Use pastebin or #flood
[09:31] <Hoxzer^^> yeah :D
[09:31] <cyphase> lol
[09:31] <Seveas> darkheart, the sudo program is not removed :)
[09:31] <Hoxzer^^> now they are installed :(
[09:31] <Hoxzer^^> and you couldn't tell me how to
[09:31] <darkheart> pr0tocol But, I'm not sure I can help you with that stuff. I'll take a look though.
[09:31] <odatubuntu> kryal: it said i needed to exit x server before running the utility
[09:31] <pr0tocol> here it goes
[09:31] <cyphase> he's also the IT head, and he doesn't want to install firefox on the network..
[09:31] <darkheart> Seveas LoL I would hope not. 'Ubuntu: No root, no sudo' lol
[09:31] <cyphase> because "free stuff has a lot of bugs"
[09:31] <Seveas> cyphase, rofl....
[09:31] <Hoxzer^^> now I need get sound work in mplayer
[09:31] <Seveas> he's a total moron
[09:31] <cyphase> very
[09:32] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[09:32] <Seveas> or use mplayer -ao esd
[09:32] <cyphase> i would go down to the school and talk to him..
[09:32] <cyphase> but i'm in the uS, and she's in the UK
[09:32] <cyphase> lol
[09:32] <jpkeisala> will breezy support WPA/WPA2?
[09:32] <pr0tocol> darkheart, already pasted in #flood
[09:32] <Seveas> jpkeisala, hoary supports it too
[09:32] <Kyral> odatubuntu, go to the VT and kill X from there
[09:33] <twibbler> cyphase: if she is in the UK point her towards open Advantage they will change her mind ...
[09:33] <cyphase> twibbler, it's not her choice
[09:33] <cyphase> her teacher is requiring photoshop
[09:33] <cyphase> he needs a screenshot to prove the used photoshop, or they get a 0
[09:33] <darkheart> pr0tocol Why are you patching lilo anyway?
[09:33] <odatubuntu> kyral: hmm i think i'm a little to new do it from there
[09:33] <pr0tocol> darkheart, see anything?
[09:34] <twibbler> cyphase: what uni ?....
[09:34] <pr0tocol> darkheart, trying to get lilo-colors in there
[09:34] <cyphase> twibbler, not uni
[09:34] <cyphase> high-school
[09:34] <jpkeisala> Seveas, I see in GUI only WEP connection
[09:34] <darkheart> pr0tocol Well, it looks like you have the wrong patch, but I dunno for sure.
[09:34] <odatubuntu> kyral: and/or how?
[09:34] <Seveas> jpkeisala, I never said there is GUI support for it (there is not, won't be there for breezy either)
[09:34] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: still no sound
[09:34] <twibbler> cyphase: I see but in UK or US ?...
[09:34] <fblade> hey guys how come i cant play sound in games with esd enabled?
[09:34] <cyphase> UK
[09:34] <cyphase> bristol
[09:34] <Kyral> !sound
[09:34] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[09:34] <pr0tocol> darkheart, dammit.  you don't know if there is a .deb package for that/
[09:34] <pr0tocol> ?
[09:34] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, other media players do produce sound?
[09:34] <Hoxzer^^> wanna get the error message
[09:35] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: xmms does haven't tried others
[09:35] <twibbler> cyphase: being nosy which high school....
[09:35] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, yeah send me :)
[09:35] <cyphase> twibbler, Oldfield
[09:35] <darkheart> pr0tocol No, I'm sorry =\ I use grub actually. Don't really care too much what my bootloader looks like =) just that it works.
[09:35] <Kyral> odatubuntu, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and login there
[09:35] <pr0tocol> lol
[09:35] <Kyral> sudo killall gdm (THIS WILL SHUTDOWN X!!!)
[09:36] <pr0tocol> brb
[09:36] <Seveas> Kyral, bad
[09:36] <Seveas> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:36] <fblade> hey guys how come i cant play sound in games with esd enabled?
[09:36] <cyphase> twibbler, oldfield sports college
[09:36] <Seveas> that makes it shutdown clean
[09:36] <Answer> odatubuntu: ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back to the graphical interface...
[09:36] <twibbler> cyphase: Nice school ..... I get the pen source initiative to get in touch with school... government here says open source where available ....
[09:36] <cyphase> she's only there because her parents wanted an all girls school
[09:36] <cyphase> lol
[09:36] <Kyral> Seveas, thats how I always have done it :P
[09:36] <cyphase> twibbler, i know
[09:36] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound"
[09:36] <cyphase> her teacher's an a**hole
[09:36] <cyphase> lol
[09:37] <Answer> cyphase > #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <twibbler> cyphase: does sound like .. (and were being told off)...
[09:37] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, did you disable esd perhaps?
[09:37] <Hoxzer^^> no
[09:37] <Seveas> Hoxzer, pgrep esd
[09:37] <pr0tocol> thanks guys
[09:37] <Hoxzer^^> I dont think so
[09:38] <Seveas> does that give output?
[09:38] <Hoxzer^^> do I write that to terminal?
[09:38] <Hoxzer^^> 8097
[09:38] <CookdGryphon> how do u disable esd completely? cos my dvd player doesn't work with esd on either so i have written a script to kill it before autorunning a dvd
[09:39] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, hmm, try: mplayer -ao esd filename.mp3
[09:39] <Hoxzer^^> Mplayer interrupted by singal 11 in module: decode audio
[09:39] <Seveas> right
[09:39] <Seveas> install the codec :)
[09:39] <godzero> hoxzer: gnome/ubuntu?
[09:39] <Hoxzer^^> that was what I get when I changed to esd
[09:39] <twibbler> CookdGryphon: system -> preferences -> sound untick the box ..
[09:39] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: what?
[09:39] <CookdGryphon> twibbler, i still want sound
[09:39] <war-totem> anyone know where you can get a list of the dependency names of programs like wxWindows?
[09:40] <Hoxzer^^> s
[09:40] <Seveas> war-totem, apt solves that for you....
[09:40] <twibbler> CookdGryphon then setup alsa using gstreamer-properties
[09:40] <vitriol> war-totem: you can see that when running synaptic
[09:40] <CookdGryphon> twibbler, i have done, esd still ruins
[09:40] <war-totem> apt-get install wxWindows doesnt work
[09:40] <CookdGryphon> runs*
[09:40] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: what codec :D
[09:40] <anybody> Hoxzer^^, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:40] <twibbler> CookdGryphon: unticking the box will only disable esd ... not alsa ...
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> 90 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[09:41] <anybody> Hoxzer^^, youll probably want to apt-get all those
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> someone decided to upload xorg today
[09:41] <fblade> hey giys anyone know hoe i could get a sd card reader to work in linux? please help
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> hows compatibility with nvidia cards?
[09:41] <war-totem> what do you mean by synaptic?
[09:41] <nomike> re
[09:42] <vitriol> war-totem: you can see all of the dependancies of a package in synaptic
[09:42] <mejde> does ubuntu ship with the bytecode interpeter enabled in freetype?
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> CookdGryphon : you need to kill esd this once
[09:42] <nomike> what's better for an Athlon XP+ - mplayer-k5 or mplayer-586?
[09:42] <vitriol> war-totem: i'd tell you exactly how to get to it but i'm doing a dist-upgrade right now and can't use synaptic
[09:42] <war-totem> i tried doing a search in synaptic for wxwindows but it doesnt find anything
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> next time it should be off by default
[09:42] <war-totem> what am i doing rown
[09:42] <nomike> s/k5/k6/
[09:42] <noobs> yo ppls
[09:42] <war-totem> wrong
[09:42] <rambo3> how do i remove sudo from my user account
[09:42] <war-totem> ok
[09:42] <Seveas> nomike, k6
[09:42] <nomike> thx
[09:42] <vitriol> war-totem: you have universe enabled?
[09:42] <Seveas> rambo3, deluser your_user admin
[09:42] <CookdGryphon> ahhhh
[09:42] <war-totem> yeas
[09:42] <Seveas> (iirc)
[09:43] <vitriol> war-totem: maybe it's case sensitive
[09:43] <war-totem> ill try again
[09:43] <Seveas> rambo3, ARGH WAIT
[09:43] <shinu> wow
[09:43] <vitriol> i get lots of results with 'apt-cache search wxwindows'
[09:43] <war-totem> do i do that in a terminal?
[09:43] <vitriol> yeah that particular command
[09:43] <odatubuntu> kyral: still there?
[09:44] <noobs> *CRY!!!!!!!*
[09:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i download the packages of a repository, is possible do that by ftp?
[09:44] <war-totem> ah
[09:44] <seife> why when i have ubuntu installed on my slave drive, when its loading it says something like /sbinit/ attempt to kill it! ?
[09:44] <nomike> I heard in ubuntu there is no real root account like in other distros and you should use sudo (su - doesn't work), true=
[09:44] <noobs> i stopped the gdm manager
[09:44] <noobs> when i restarted it
[09:44] <nomike> ?
[09:44] <war-totem> how do i tell apt-get to download them all, is that possible
[09:44] <godzero> nomike: ya, kinda
[09:44] <odatubuntu> kyral: that didn't work said i still had xserver running
[09:45] <noobs> my user profile was corrupted
[09:45] <jpfarias> Seveas, hey, thanks, that tip worked
[09:45] <nomike> so, how about the "root-console" thingy in the gnome-menu? is this something I should avoid?
[09:45] <Needs-Help> hi
[09:45] <setite> Kyral, i dont know wtf to do still
[09:45] <Needs-Help> where can i get ndiswrapper from?
[09:45] <setite> i dont get the export shit
[09:45] <Seveas> nomike, yes
[09:45] <setite> i printed out the thread
[09:45] <Needs-Help> ubotu tell Needs-Help about ndiswrapper
[09:45] <setite> i killed kdm...
[09:45] <jpfarias> Seveas, but it has turn back to terminal when it reaches the network devices config... is it ok?
[09:45] <Answer> u killed kenny!
[09:45] <odatubuntu> does anyone know how to exit xserver to install a driver?
[09:45] <setite> then typed export CC and export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:45] <Seveas> jpfarias, for now: yes
[09:45] <noobs> guys. what do i do if i can't log in as the only user with admin rights?
[09:45] <godzero> nomike: you can enable root if you must. root console: use sudo -i
[09:46] <Seveas> noobs, reboot into recovery mode
[09:46] <Answer> noobs:  sudo passwd root
[09:46] <setite> anyoen understand thsi nvidia shit for breezy
[09:46] <Seveas> Answer, he can't login..
[09:46] <noobs> answer, i haven't forgotten the password, the user profile is corrupt
[09:46] <twibbler> Needs_help: Ndiswrapper shoud be installed if not use synaptic to install then man ndiswrapper ...
[09:46] <war-totem> wow, synaptic is cool, i dont think there was anything like it in redhat
[09:46] <Answer> Seveas: he can login as differnet user, just not admin
[09:46] <jpfarias> also, can I ask for CDs of the breezy even if I already got CDs from hoary from shipit.ubuntu.com?
[09:46] <godzero> odatubuntu: init 3
[09:47] <Answer> noobs:  sudo userdel
[09:47] <Seveas> jpfarias, yes
[09:47] <noobs> Seveas, recovery mode? from the grub screen?
[09:47] <odatubuntu> godzero: ?
[09:47] <Seveas> noobs, yes
[09:47] <noobs> Answer, sudo doesn't work from this profile
[09:47] <noobs> and user del is not an option!! hours of steam downloading :P
[09:47] <Answer> noobs: reboot into recovery mode
[09:48] <Seveas> noobs, what is corrupt about the profile?
[09:48] <noobs> mkay
[09:48] <godzero> odatubuntu: type "sudo init 3" in bash, goes to tty
[09:48] <godzero> kills x
[09:48] <Seveas> you might easily be able to solve it without rebooting or doing shit as admin
[09:48] <noobs> Seveas, all the hidden files aren't happy with me
[09:48] <jpfarias> Seveas, when I login, all I can see is my previous ship... how can I ask for the new breezy CD set?
[09:48] <Answer> noobs: what is the error with sudo ?
[09:48] <odatubuntu> godzero: in bash?   not in the terminal?
[09:49] <Seveas> noobs, can you login in a text console (without X)
[09:49] <Seveas> ?
[09:49] <funkyHat> Answer, there is no error with sudo, he can't login as the user that has sudo rights
[09:49] <godzero> any term should work, bash is the one I use
[09:49] <noobs> Seveas, i was in the console, with the gdm stopped........ and i wanted to check something on the internet quickly, and instead of typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start i typed startx (from slackware instinct) then x failed, and corrupted my profile
[09:49] <noobs> yes Seveas, i can still log into the text console
[09:50] <mik3_> woot woot Seveas in the house \o/
[09:50] <funkyHat> noobs, in that case, sudo nano /etc/group
[09:50] <funkyHat> sorry
[09:50] <Seveas> noobs then remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[09:50] <Seveas> these hidden files are the problem makers
[09:50] <Seveas> hi mik3_ :)
[09:50] <noobs> thx Seveas
[09:50] <Hoxzer^^> strange
[09:50] <funkyHat> ok i'll leave you to it Seveas ;)
[09:50] <CookdGryphon> hey, i've installed wine andi'mtrying to install a program off a cd, but it says i can't find the files off the cd, any ideas?
[09:50] <D13GU___>  where i see the release of kubuntu 5
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[09:50] <cr4sh> Hey guyz
[09:50] <odatubuntu> godzero: nah it didn't kill x
[09:50] <noobs> will give it a shot
[09:51] <Seveas> D13GU___, what do you mean?
[09:51] <cr4sh> Can anyone help me with my internet problem?? please
[09:51] <Seveas> cr4sh, not unless you tell us what the problem is
[09:51] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: I ran Automated Setup but mplayer sounds seem still not work
[09:51] <Answer> cr4sh: please state your problem
[09:51] <D13GU___> release of kubuntu 5.04
[09:51] <setite> someone help
[09:51] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, automated setup?
[09:51] <godzero> odatubuntu: sudo init 3 didn't kill x?
[09:51] <setite> what is this CC crap
[09:51] <noobs> Seveas, there are 3 ICEauth files with diff extensions, should i drop them all?
[09:51] <Seveas> D13GU___, releases.ubuuntu.com
[09:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna make a repository to my intranet....hoa can I do that?
[09:51] <dolmen> I see 51 updates today!!!
[09:51] <Seveas> noobs, yes
[09:52] <dolmen> Nobody had problems?
[09:52] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: A script exists to setup most restricted formats. It installs the following programs:
[09:52] <vitriol> i had problems
[09:52] <D13GU___> Seveas ok, one question... i have problems for mount floppy disk
[09:52] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, a mirror of the archive or simply a repository with your own packages?
[09:52] <jaak_ko> mail.com doesn't accept my password... is it possible that freepops has messed something up or has my password been stolen...
[09:52] <vitriol> firefox and thunderchicken stopped working
[09:52] <dolmen> vitriol, what kind ?
[09:52] <cr4sh> I have a D-link router, just installed Ubuntu, i have internet as i can ping remote ip's but i can not browse webs
[09:52] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, such scripts suck
[09:52] <darkheart> lol @ vitriol
[09:52] <vitriol> upgrading to breezy on those packages fixed it
[09:53] <dolmen> vitriol, solved now ?
[09:53] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: why? :D
[09:53] <vitriol> with breezy, yes
[09:53] <cr4sh> so anyone ???
[09:53] <noobs> woohooo! everybody pls note, Seveas rox ur box! shot bru it worked
[09:53] <noobs> man i'm so full
[09:53] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, I've spent more than a fair share of time solving problems for people who run them...
[09:53] <odatubuntu> godzero: nope
[09:53] <Seveas> noobs, :)
[09:53] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: ok, good to hear
[09:53] <Hoxzer^^> can you help?
[09:54] <godzero> odatubuntu: go to tty1 (ctrl alt f1), login, sudo kill all xorg
[09:54] <setite> Seveas, do you understand what the CC thing is
[09:54] <Seveas> dunno, can you put the script on a pastebin?
[09:54] <setite> trying to install nvidia
[09:54] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: i've isntalled the nxserver on the ubuntu system and the client on this pc, but they wont connect.
[09:54] <noobs> ate a burger the size of my head
[09:54] <Seveas> setite, CC is the c compiler
[09:54] <evian> cr4sh: what was your problem?
[09:54] <Seveas> you don't need to compile nvidia stuff
[09:54] <D13GU___> after insert disk on floppy and access, see a error, about file system problem...
[09:54] <anybody> cr4sh, you are able to ping google by ip?
[09:54] <Seveas> ubuntu has nvidia drivers too (even for breezy)
[09:54] <cr4sh> yea
[09:54] <setite> well i dont know what to do... it keeps saying it cant find kernel something
[09:55] <setite> Seveas, well the breezy ones were broke
[09:55] <Lunar_Lamp> argh! when i try to play an mp3 in xmms it just freezes and doesn#t do anything, and i have to kill it.  what am i doing wrong?
[09:55] <Seveas> seth_k, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:55] <setite> i cant run glxgears
[09:55] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[09:55] <twibbler> cookdGryphon: here is interesing sound bits and bobs ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=Add+Sound+Card
[09:55] <setite> seveas did you mean that to me or to seth?
[09:55] <Seveas> setite, to you :)
[09:55] <setite> ok
[09:55] <Lunar_Lamp> Seveas, it can play cd's ok - is that still the right way to go?
[09:55] <Seveas> didn't notice the error
[09:55] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: i've isntalled the nxserver on the ubuntu system and the client on this pc, but they wont connect.
[09:55] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp, yes
[09:56] <Fred|Fr3d> it says "Authentication Failed"
[09:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - how do i do that? :-/
[09:56] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, tou need to run this on the server:
[09:56] <Seveas> sudo nxserver --adduser your_username
[09:56] <cr4sh> yes a can ping googls ip..
[09:56] <Fred|Fr3d> ahh ok thanks :)
[09:56] <Seveas> sudo nxserver --passwd your_username
[09:56] <Seveas> (both)
[09:56] <funkyHat> Lunar_Lamp, click on the dot in the top left, go to options > click preferences
[09:56] <uthini> tx Seveas, this is the user you helped noobs save :)
[09:56] <Seveas> uthini, hehe :)
[09:56] <seth_k> Seveas, ?
[09:56] <CookdGryphon> twibbler, thanks
[09:56] <Seveas> seth_k, <tab> error
[09:57] <seth_k> word
[09:57] <Seveas> no
[09:57] <Seveas> open office :)
[09:57] <seth_k> hahah
[09:57] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: i get this: grep: /etc/nxserver/passwords: No such file or directory
[09:57] <seth_k> you win sir ;)
[09:57] <cr4sh> so guyz what to do.. ??
[09:57] <twibbler> CookdGryphon: your welcome hope it resolves it ...
[09:57] <Fred|Fr3d> and some more similar stuff
[09:57] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, hmm, never seen that one
[09:57] <Seveas> what did you install actually?
[09:57] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks Seveas! :-D
[09:58] <Seveas> Lunar_Lamp, yw :)
[09:58] <Fred|Fr3d> i used synaptic and installed the thing from the address u gave me
[09:58] <Fred|Fr3d> lemme check the name
[09:58] <Seveas> which thing, freenx?
[09:58] <Fred|Fr3d> i beleive so
[09:58] <Seveas> do this on the server: dpkg -L freenx
[09:58] <Seveas> and paste the error in a private chat or on a pastebin
[09:58] <jpfarias> thanks guys!
[09:58] <Seveas> i mean output there, not error
[09:59] <fejaor> does anybody know the path to GAIM??
[09:59] <funkyHat> fejaor, /usr/bin/gaim ?
[09:59] <Answer> fejaor: whereis gaimn
[09:59] <fejaor> thanks
[09:59] <Answer> fejaor: whereis gaim
[09:59] <Seveas> fejaor, the command 'which gaim' will tell you
[09:59] <cevizoglu> fejaor: use the which command to find tools
[09:59] <Lunar_Lamp> "whereis" is useful for searching
[10:00] <anybody> cr4sh, type network-admin,  when you look under the dns tab is it showing any servers?
[10:00] <noti> hi
[10:00] <setite> Seveas, that halfworked... now im getting an API mismatch
[10:00] <darkheart> I like 'which' cause it's easier to type =P
[10:00] <cr4sh> its showing 192.168.1.1
[10:00] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: u got PM ;-)
[10:00] <Seveas> setite, can't help any further, I don't have an nvidia card
[10:00] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, reading
[10:00] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks
[10:00] <Seveas> right, I think i know it:
[10:01] <anybody> cr4sh, before you installed ubuntu it was working? in xp etc?
[10:01] <Seveas> you might have forgotten the sudo bit
[10:01] <cr4sh> yea
[10:01] <war-totem> how can you tell if you have wxwindows installed or not?
[10:01] <funkyHat> setite, i take it that breezy's nVidia drivers are still buggy then?
[10:01] <Fred|Fr3d> i what?
[10:01] <cr4sh> it still dose if i go to Xp!
[10:01] <noti> i have a problem. i have an iso file in my computer and i want to burn it with another one. how to do it? i have an usb disk, but the problem is i cant write in a ntfs fs
[10:01] <setite> well i think
[10:01] <Seveas> war-totem, it's called wxwidgets these days
[10:01] <Lunar_Lamp> is there a way to get xmms to search out all the music files on my computer and add them automatically to a playlist?
[10:01] <odatubuntu> good lord does anyone know how to kill the xserver so i can install this nvidia driver???
[10:01] <setite> but im not sure as something i noticed is that this tutorial says to disable dri and glcore
[10:01] <Seveas> war-totem, dpkg -L 'wx*'
[10:01] <setite> i didnt have glcore disabled... is that whats hurting glx?
[10:01] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, sudo nxserver --adduser your_username
[10:01] <noti> i tried to send the file through local network but the speed is onle 100 kb/s...
[10:02] <cr4sh> anybody: yes it workd in xp :D
[10:02] <vitriol> i just upgraded to breezy and now x doesn't start cause of the keyboard entry in xorg.conf
[10:02] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, sudo nxserver --passwd your_username
[10:02] <war-totem> ok i have wxwidgets but this program comical is complaingin about not having wxwidgets
[10:02] <Fred|Fr3d> i did that Seveas:
[10:02] <evian> wow that's cool. before I asked about setting up non-free software, and "anybody" told me where to look in the wiki. I wasn't expecting that it would be this easy though.
[10:02] <darkheart> Lunar_Lamp There might be a plugin for something like that, but it doesn't do it by itself.
[10:02] <setite> imma try the breezy drivers again with glcore disabled
[10:02] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, ick :/
[10:02] <evian> wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh
[10:02] <evian> sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh
[10:02] <vitriol> anybody know what a generic keyboard InputDevice section should look like in breezy?
[10:02] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: it now says i already exist in the database
[10:02] <vitriol> the syntax must have changed
[10:02] <Seveas> odd
[10:02] <Lunar_Lamp> darkheart, so if i want to add all the music on my hard drive to xmms to get it to play - i have to add each file individually?
[10:02] <Seveas> did you do the passwd thing to?
[10:03] <Fred|Fr3d> i'll do it now..
[10:03] <anybody> cr4sh, sorry dont know alot abou dns issues in ubuntu maybe Seveas can help =)
[10:03] <Seveas> vitriol, the Driver is now kbd instead of keyboard
[10:03] <vitriol> oh
[10:03] <darkheart> Lunar_Lamp Yeah, you can add folders though...then you could save a list and use that...the problem is that you would have to update that list manually as well.
[10:03] <vitriol> thanks Seveas
[10:03] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas i get this:
[10:03] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
[10:03] <Fred|Fr3d> Sorry: Password changing for user is _not_ implemented, yet.
[10:03] <Fred|Fr3d> Please login to NX-Server to change password
[10:03] <cr4sh> Seveas: you think you can help me with dns issue please?
[10:03] <Lunar_Lamp> darkheart, are there are any music players that would then?
[10:04] <Lunar_Lamp> as that is pretty much all i want my music player to do
[10:04] <Seveas> cr4sh, possible, paste the content of /etc/resolv.conf in a private chat
[10:04] <Sly> Seveas ......... about my sharing problem a couple days ago, you quickly pasted some nat inffo.... and it was greatly satisfying doing it myself
[10:04] <JoeLiTo> Greetings to all and Kudos to the devs for such a nice breezy release, yay
[10:04] <Sly> even if it did cost a few hours of time & a bit of hair loss
[10:04] <Sly> thankyou
[10:04] <Seveas> :)
[10:04] <Seveas> yw Sly
[10:04] <Answer> Lunar_Lamp: xmms should ADd Dir
[10:04] <funkyHat> Lunar_Lamp, RhythmBox (Music Player) will generate a library
[10:04] <funkyHat> xmms/bmp won't
[10:05] <darkheart> Lunar_Lamp Yes, the one that comes with Ubuntu does. It's listed as 'Music Player', but it's actually called rhythmbox.
[10:05] <Lunar_Lamp> funkyHat, ok, thanks - i'll take a look at it then
[10:05] <Sly> :)
[10:05] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: now when i try to connect using nomachines client i get "Error Unknown" and it just sits there doing nothing :S
[10:05] <Fikrann> Hello!
[10:05] <odatubuntu> does anyone know how to kill xserver so i can install a driver?
[10:05] <Fikrann> Any X-networking gurus here?
[10:06] <JoeLiTo> sudo killall gdm/kdm
[10:06] <reiki_work> This morning my update notification said there were updates. There were some mysql updates waiting. I used the update icon to update them and at the end AFTER downloading and installing I got an alert box that update-manager had failed. Error 222 if I remember right. Child process terminated. That sound lke I'm going to have problems when I get back home to that machine?
[10:06] <budluva> Fikrann, whats your problem?
[10:06] <Answer> odatubuntu: ps -ef | xserver    find hte pid,  kill <pid>
[10:06] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, I've never seen this, do this:
[10:06] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -P freenx
[10:06] <Seveas> sudo rm -rf /etc/nxserver/
[10:06] <funkyHat> Answer, you don't need to do that :P
[10:06] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install freenx
[10:06] <airox> hi
[10:06] <Seveas> (and then the adduser/passwd lines)
[10:06] <JoeLiTo> anyone knows wich wlan cards work best with breezy?
[10:07] <Answer> funkyHat:  ps -ef | grep gdm     kill <pid>
[10:07] <odatubuntu> answer: what my pid?
[10:07] <Nameless12> i just installed a gmail notifier and the instructions said to make a shortcut or something in the following location "system-->preferences-->sessions-->startup programs " where is that location, i am confused. i dont know where he is refering when he says system so i dont know where to start from.
[10:07] <Answer> !pid
[10:07] <ubotu> Answer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:07] <Seveas> Answer, pkill gdm ;)
[10:07] <funkyHat> Answer, or killall gdm
[10:07] <funkyHat> ;)
[10:07] <Seveas> or better /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:07] <funkyHat> oo
[10:07] <airox> I have installed Breezy Preview and am looking at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configurepalmosdevices to see howto connect my PDA. I did all the things. But Gnome Pilot Settings isn't able to find it at /dev/pilot.
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> done Seveas
[10:07] <Bergcube> Question:  I have a few users that need to send files from their desktop machines via SSL to a server.  What (if anything) besides a vanilla Ubuntu server install do I need to make this possible?
[10:07] <godzero> pid = proccess ID
[10:07] <airox> What could be the problem ?
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> but i get thsi:
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> this*
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> dpkg: error processing freenx (--configure):
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d>  freenx
[10:07] <Fred|Fr3d> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:07] <Answer> heh I tihnk he killed it
[10:08] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, do NOT paste in here!
[10:08] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm - rhythmbox won't let me play mp3's... and i can't find any preferences menu to solve it in an equivalent to the way i just did in xmms
[10:08] <Fred|Fr3d> oops sorry :$
[10:08] <cr4sh> Seveas: all that I have is nameserver 192.168.1.1
[10:08] <Fred|Fr3d> my bad
[10:08] <twibbler> BergCube: you could look at samba nice share docs system ..
[10:08] <nubbe> impressive amount of updates today
[10:08] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: shall i paste to u in PM?
[10:08] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, I've seen it now...
[10:08] <Answer> alias ctrl+V "echo don't paste here"
[10:08] <JoeLiTo> yea nubbe i noticed this morning
[10:09] <Seveas> cr4sh, that means your router is not sending the correct DNS ip's
[10:09] <happybaby> helle
[10:09] <Seveas> setup your router correctly :)
[10:09] <happybaby> hello
[10:09] <nubbe> any probs applying them?
[10:09] <Fikrann> budluva, Do you know of any fast way to spawn an X app on REMOTE machine, that'd display on LOCAL machine? I'm lazy and ssh -X clutter my desktop with needles shell windows.
[10:09] <cr4sh> Seveas: so what do I do to fix this?
[10:09] <JoeLiTo> I didn't
[10:09] <rambo3> no afterstep in ubuntu  ?
[10:09] <Bergcube> twibbler~ I agree.  Had the net in question been a LAN I would.  I agree completely.  But the users are "on the other side" of the internet.  The application that generates the files can send them via plain FTP or via SSL.  FTP seems too insecure.....
[10:09] <happybaby> I have a question about photo formats, and a photo-sharing site (better than Flickr.com) called Zoto.com.
[10:09] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, the command that gave the error was the apt-get thing right?
[10:09] <nubbe> JoeLiTo, k
[10:09] <JoeLiTo> but i suggest you kill gdm before trying to apply
[10:10] <Answer> Fikrann: setup a launcher to run the command and it should hide the shell window...
[10:10] <nubbe> really?
[10:10] <JoeLiTo> at least I did it that way
[10:10] <twibbler> Bergcube: have you tried sftp ....
[10:10] <Quinthius> Lunar_Lamp: have you installed the gstreamer plugins for mp3?
[10:10] <Seveas> cr4sh, then you need to bring your network down & up again
[10:10] <Lunar_Lamp> Quinthius, i think so :-/
[10:10] <ca9mbu> hi folks.  I'm trying to get my USB drive to mount without the 'sync' option.  I hope this isn't an FAQ!  I thought it'd be managed by HAL, but it doesn't appear to be.
[10:10] <Lunar_Lamp> maybe it didn't work though - how do i check
[10:10] <Lunar_Lamp> ?
[10:10] <Seveas> cr4sh, as in: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[10:10] <budluva> Fikrann, try vnc
[10:10] <nubbe> JoeLiTo, I'll brave it anyway :)
[10:10] <JoeLiTo> ojk
[10:10] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: any ideas about the errors?
[10:10] <JoeLiTo> >> ok
[10:10] <Fikrann> Answer, the problem is that I wan the program to run on remote machine, not local..
[10:11] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, the command that gave the error was the apt-get thing right? <----
[10:11] <Bergcube> twibbler~ No go.  The application sending the files can send via FTP or via SSL.  Those are the chices I have.  Would be convenient to replace the applic.  But not going to happen.
[10:11] <Quinthius> Lunar_Lamp: well, what happens when you try to play one?
[10:11] <cr4sh> yea thats the hole problem i hae no idea how to set it up.. D-linik router! DSL-G604T
[10:11] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: yep
[10:11] <sorush20> guys I'm unable to load one of the CDRW I wrote at Uni.. It used roxi and I think it has formated it.. how can I access it..
[10:11] <Answer> Fikrann: do it in your shell and hit CTRL+Z to supend it to the background, then u wont have needless shells
[10:11] <Bergcube> twibbler~ I could of course set up VLANs from the users and in to the server.  But that feels like a terrible overkill just to do a few weekly file-transfers.
[10:11] <Fikrann> budluva, No other suggestions? VNC, while good, is not exactly what I'd want.
[10:11] <Seveas> ca9mbu, afaik it's a compile time option for pmount
[10:11] <cr4sh> i mean to make dns forward the corect ip!
[10:11] <Seveas> ca9mbu, read the pmount manpage to be sure
[10:12] <Lunar_Lamp> Quinthius, it won't let me load it in music player - all mp3's are "greyed out"
[10:12] <setite> im getting an API mismatch.. .it says the kernel module is fot eh 7667 driver but the driver is 7676... how do i fix that
[10:12] <twibbler> Bergcube: then use ssl onto ubutu server ..... or enable ssh in ...
[10:12] <reiki_work> cr4sh: you should be able to down the router, then power it back up and let it grab teh info from your dsl modem
[10:12] <Answer> !freenx
[10:12] <ubotu> Answer: What?
[10:12] <Seveas> cr4sh, but you do know the correct IP yourself?
[10:12] <cmatheson> hey guys, i'm trying to figure out how to change my nameserver's behavior... i need it to return nodata instead of servfail for type=aaaa requests... could someone tell me which file to read up on? i've been looking at the named.conf man page but this doesn't seem to be the right place...
[10:12] <Nameless12> how do i make a pearl script load as gnome is started?
[10:12] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, do again sudo dpkg -P freenx
[10:12] <Seveas> Nameless12, add it to your session
[10:12] <Quinthius> Lunar_Lamp: are you using the "import directory" menu or something?
[10:12] <Seveas> Nameless12, system -> prefs -> session
[10:12] <cr4sh> Seveas: what ip.. i have dynamic!
[10:12] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: done.
[10:12] <funkyHat> Nameless12, System > Preferences > Session
[10:12] <Seveas> cr4sh, I mean the ip for the dns server
[10:13] <Nameless12> Seveas, thanx
[10:13] <Bergcube> twibbler~ YES!  And therefore my original question.....  Does the vanilla Ubuntu server install come with what is needed to make SSL work?  Do I need to tweak it much?  And what (if anything) should I apt-get......
[10:13] <Answer> cr4sh : Are you talking about wired or wireless ?
[10:13] <Lunar_Lamp> Quinthius, i think that was my problem :-$
[10:13] <Quinthius> Lunar_Lamp: i don't think the version of rhythmbox in hoary lets you import single files. try choosing the entire directory
[10:13] <Red_Bullet> im mp3blaster when one mp3 finish i will manualy start hext how can i repair this
[10:13] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, now run: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/freenx*.deb
[10:13] <cr4sh> wireless router but its conncted wired to my pc!
[10:13] <Seveas> and if that errors, paste the error in a private chat
[10:13] <sorush20> I can mount the CDRW but it seemes to crash can somone help
[10:13] <Red_Bullet> im mp3blaster when one mp3 finish i will manualy start hext how can i repair this
[10:13] <Answer> cr4sh: Use "ifconfig" to setup the appropriate essid and key, then run dhclient
[10:14] <Seveas> Answer, please read before talking
[10:14] <Seveas> that's not his problem
[10:14] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: what keys should i use? i used the nomachines ones last time, should i use other ones or the same ones this time?
[10:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna make a repository to my intranet....how can I do that?
[10:14] <ca9mbu> thanks seveas, is there an equivalent pumount? Or do I just use umount?  According to the manpage I can then just 'pmount -a' the drive again.
[10:14] <Seveas> cr4sh, do you know the IP address of the dns server?
[10:14] <Red_Bullet> i play music with mp3blaster when one mp3 finish i will manualy start hext how can i repair this
[10:14] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, a mirror of the archive or simply a repository with your own packages?
[10:14] <Seveas> ca9mbu, pumount exists
[10:14] <sorush20> I cant unmount or eject the cdrom
[10:14] <Red_Bullet> Seveas:
[10:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas, this!
[10:14] <Red_Bullet> help me
[10:14] <Red_Bullet> please
[10:15] <ca9mbu> I'd obviously prefer it if pmount/hal could interact as HAL's fdi's can specify whether the device should be mounted sync or not!
[10:15] <cr4sh> Seveas yes i have two!
[10:15] <Red_Bullet> please helo
[10:15] <Red_Bullet> help
[10:15] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: what keys should I use when installing it?
[10:15] <Seveas> cr4sh, good, then this is solvable :)
[10:15] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, nomacine keys
[10:15] <Red_Bullet> i play music with mp3blaster when one mp3 finish i will manualy start hext how can i repair this
[10:15] <Fred|Fr3d> ok thanks
[10:15] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: i still get exactly the same errors :S
[10:15] <Seveas> cr4sh, paste the contents of the file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:16] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, send me them in a private message
[10:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas: i can download some packages from universe and put them in some place...but how?
[10:16] <geargolem> when I open a terminal I get all sorts of 'declare' statements.  why is this so?
[10:16] <happybaby> To anyone familiar with photo files: Zoto.com  allows uploading of PNG files but converts them to Jpeg files. Should I therefore just scan my photos as JPEG's instead?
[10:16] <godzero> cr4sh: is your router linksys?
[10:16] <cr4sh> D-link
[10:16] <reiki_work> d-link
[10:16] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, if you want to do just that, read the manpage for dpkg-scanpackage to find out how to turn a directory with debs into a repository
[10:17] <Bergcube> * sigh *
[10:17] <lewion> i have a question
[10:17] <anybody> lewion, shoot
[10:17] <lewion> how do i modify my grub list again
[10:17] <lewion> where is it located
[10:17] <funkyHat> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:17] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: => PM
[10:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[10:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas: nice...
[10:17] <wrtpeeps> what do you call that gui login that ubuntu installs
[10:18] <sorush20> I keep getting device is busy can someone help plese..
[10:18] <anybody> wrtpeeps, gdm?
[10:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas: there is a ftp where i cat get the .deb of ubuntu?
[10:18] <wrtpeeps> thanks
[10:18] <reiki_work> sorush20: for which device?
[10:18] <happybaby> any fellow ubuntuer who uses zoto.com?
[10:18] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, archive.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <lewion> thx
[10:19] <lewion> i fuckin installed linux kernel k7
[10:19] <lewion> but it doesn't seem to run my nvidia
[10:19] <lewion> what's wrong with kernel k7??
[10:19] <Answer> unnecessary language will not get you to nvidia-glx any faster
[10:19] <darklogic> hey guys
[10:19] <darklogic> i'm new to ubuntu, so go easy on me...
[10:19] <darklogic> i have an onboard NIC
[10:20] <Answer> darklogic: try to state your question in one line maybe?
[10:20] <lewion> Answer, was that to me?
[10:20] <odatubuntu> ok what is the command to kill xserver and do i need to hit ctrl alt f1 before i do it?
[10:20] <darklogic> i have an onboard nic and the "Network" gui only shows the onboard modem. how can i fix this?
[10:20] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, what is the output of: getent group root
[10:20] <cr4sh> Sevear: i can not go to the paste site, can browser cuz of the problem, can u open private chat so i can paste for you
[10:20] <Seveas> ?
[10:21] <cr4sh> Sevear: i can not go to the paste site, can browser cuz of the problem, can u open private chat so i can paste for you
[10:21] <Seveas> cr4sh, by all means
[10:21] <sorush20> reiki_work: is for the hdc
[10:21] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: i get nothing at all
[10:21] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, then your system is absolutely weird
[10:21] <Fred|Fr3d> :(
[10:21] <sorush20> its searching for the data on the CD but it seemes to be unable to find it..
[10:21] <godzero> odatubuntu: first, can you "sudo ps -a" and look for a Xorg/xfree86/xserver entry for me?
[10:21] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, try this command: grep root /etc/passwd && grep root /etc/group
[10:21] <Seveas> does that give output?
[10:22] <Fred|Fr3d> yup
[10:22] <Seveas> paste it in the private chat again
[10:22] <Answer> darklogic: are you sure your NIC is compatible? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[10:22] <Fred|Fr3d> k, 1 sec
[10:22] <odatubuntu> godzero: PID TTY          TIME CMD
[10:22] <odatubuntu>  6666 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[10:22] <darklogic> Answer, don't know if it is. assumed, because i've never seen a nic that wasn't linux compatible
[10:22] <godzero> my bad, sec
[10:23] <reiki_work> sorush20: internal hard drive hung?  hmmm... I've not had that one. I've only xperienced this trying to unmount a usb flash drive
[10:23] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: pm.
[10:23] <Answer> darklogic: in the shell try "ifconfig"  if it shows eth0 or eth1 try "ifconfig ethN up" to activate
[10:23] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, your system is seriously weird...
[10:23] <Fred|Fr3d> why?
[10:24] <sorush20> reiki_work: no its the CD rom
[10:24] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, can you paste the entire /etc/group file in the private chat, there's a big error in that file
[10:24] <Fred|Fr3d> one sec
[10:24] <godzero> odatubuntu: sudo ps -A
[10:25] <malverian[work] > How can I get a list of all installed packages?
[10:25] <malverian[work] > (on my system)
[10:25] <opo> (way to be specific ;-)
[10:25] <Seveas> malverian[work] , dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstalled
[10:25] <setite> seveas any ideas... my problem is that i have the new driver.. but im getting an api mismatch saying the kernel module is for the old driver
[10:25] <setite> what gives
[10:25] <odatubuntu> godzero: 5835
[10:25] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Gracias..
[10:25] <cr4sh> Seveas: did u get it
[10:25] <Seveas> seth_k|away, that gives that you need to waut for a kernel upgrade
[10:25] <Seveas> cr4sh, no
[10:25] <darklogic> Answer, i did. it doesn't
[10:26] <malverian[work] > I wrote a script to look fro broken dependencies in $PATH paths, and ldconfig paths and re-install those packages (forcefully)
[10:26] <godzero> great! sudo kill 5835
[10:26] <Seveas> cr4sh, ah wait
[10:26] <setite> so if i upgraded my kernel would it fix?
[10:26] <Seveas> cr4sh, paste it again, nickserv was blocking your messages to me
[10:26] <malverian[work] > It works pretty well, but I think my problem goes pretty deep.. somehow apt removed almost every file in /usr/lib/
[10:26] <cr4sh> Seveas: u got it?
[10:27] <sorush20> I wrote the CD using Roxi 5.5 and it is very old I don't know what ISO its been written in and so on and so forth..
[10:27] <Answer> darklogic: if ifconfig does not recognize your network card, I dunno.  you might have a hardware problem
[10:27] <reiki_work> sorush20: lsof | grep /mnt/cdrom  see if that shows you what's accessing it
[10:27] <darklogic> Answer, k. i'll just throw another nic in. oh well
[10:27] <darklogic> Answer, thanks for your guidance
[10:27] <cr4sh> Seveas: is it there?
[10:28] <Answer> darklogic: ifconfig should show all the network devices...  ifconfig eth0 up should activate eth0
[10:28] <odatubuntu> godzero: is that after i do a ctrl alt F1
[10:28] <Seveas> cr4sh, it's slowly coming in :)
[10:28] <cr4sh> Seveas: lol :D
[10:28] <Seveas> cr4sh, ok do this: open the file as root in a text editor
[10:28] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: pasted
[10:28] <setite> is there a way to truly clean the drivers out
[10:29] <godzero> odatubuntu: should work at any, but tty1 (ctrl alt f1, then login) prolly best
[10:29] <Seveas> cr4sh, go to around line 18 where it says request with a bunch of things
[10:29] <malverian[work] > Apt seriously completely borked my system.. I don't understand exactly why.
[10:29] <LasseL> guys, I need a little handholding .... I have windows on hda1-3 and ubuntu on hda5-7. Now I want to kill off windows. I know how to repartition. My problem is that the bootloader is on hda1 and I suspect I will kill it when I repartition. So how can I reinstall that when I am done -- also if I make hda1-3 into one big partition will I need to edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst to keep my system bootable?
[10:29] <cr4sh> Seveas: my gedit has a problme dosent load is there any other?
[10:29] <Seveas> cr4sh, nano (terminal based)
[10:30] <cr4sh> ahh ok
[10:30] <cr4sh> cim
[10:30] <cr4sh> vim
[10:30] <cr4sh> :D
[10:30] <Answer> pico emacs vi mc nedit
[10:30] <Answer> abiword
[10:30] <Answer> heh
[10:30] <reiki_work> sorush20: that show you anything helpful?
[10:30] <cr4sh> YEA I'm there?
[10:30] <fejaor> I'm having a lot of troubles with my 5 button mouse.....I have read and followed the instructions in ubuntu forums and still not woking.....anyone??
[10:30] <Seveas> cr4sh, ok, found tge request bit?
[10:31] <setite> how do i remove somethign
[10:31] <cr4sh> Seveas not not realy where about?
[10:32] <godzero> see, linux has to be best... odatubuntu can't even kill x! MS wishes it had such problems
[10:32] <setite> anyoen... i wanna remove nvidia-glx from term.. how do i
[10:32] <Seveas> cr4sh, around line 18
[10:32] <Answer> setite:  apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[10:32] <odatubuntu> this is ridiculous
[10:32] <godzero> rofl
[10:32] <cr4sh> Seveas: thats my line 18, #prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
[10:32] <pandur_> how to set root pw?
[10:32] <setite> Answer, what if its not installed with apt
[10:32] <Seveas> ok, then line 19 should start with 'request'
[10:32] <odatubuntu> godzero: as soon as i didn that command it brought me straight to the login screen
[10:32] <Answer> pandur_: sudo root passwd
[10:33] <Seveas> cr4sh, is that correct?
[10:33] <Answer> setite: how did u install it without apt
[10:33] <odatubuntu> godzero: where can i store the file so i can find it when i login with recovery mode
[10:33] <setite> i installed the .run fromt eh nvidia site
[10:33] <cr4sh> Seveas: what do u mean?
[10:33] <Answer> setite: and u wonder why it doesnt work...
[10:34] <Seveas> cr4sh, privat msg
[10:34] <setite> im trying to clear ALL nvidia drivers as best i can... or fix this damn mismatch
[10:34] <Answer> good luck heh
[10:34] <setite> nah it doesnt work because the kernel is being stupid and pointing to the old version
[10:34] <nute> On the wiki pages, many have claimed wireless nics work "out of the box."  Being a Linux newbie, does "out of the box" require steps I'm not aware of?  The card in question is a DLink G650.  Any help or direction is much appreciated.
[10:34] <hajiki> jahiki
[10:34] <setite> could/should i make a new kernel
[10:34] <Answer> kernel does as kernel is told...
[10:34] <godzero> can you try "log out of current session" (brings you to login) then there should be a menu option (depends on theme) for login to console. I HOPE
[10:34] <setite> !kernel
[10:34] <Answer> nute:  try iwconfig and dhclient
[10:34] <reiki_work> Seveas: I'm trying to ease your burden. Just checking that umount -l /dev/hdc will simply unmount a device when it's no longer busy (hdc is cdrom)
[10:35] <reiki_work> I don't wanna add to someone's problems :)
[10:35] <juan_> Hola
[10:35] <hobby> #ubuntu-es
[10:35] <hajiki> whats with the n= in the usernames?
[10:35] <godzero> odatubnutu: file location = anyqwhere your login can read
[10:35] <nute> Answer: lo, eth0, sit0 all say no wireless extensions
[10:36] <Seveas> hajiki, see the freenode faq
[10:36] <Seveas> www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[10:36] <Answer> nute: then it doesn't see your wireless card.  it should probably be eth1
[10:36] <conor> is ur card broadcom?
[10:36] <fejaor> Im having problems with my 5 buttons mouse configuration....anyone that could help me?? I've tried the guides over ubuntu forums but still not working :S
[10:37] <setite> whoa whats the difference from linux-amd64-generic and linux-amd65-k8
[10:37] <Answer> fejaor: I don't think anyone has fixed the 5 button mouse problem yet...
[10:37] <setite> generic for k8,smp, and xeon with no optimizations i presume
[10:37] <setite> i have a single processor so i need k8 right
[10:37] <nute> Answer: I figured.  How should I start troubleshooting?
[10:37] <Answer> I think k8 is a chipset or something
[10:37] <Answer> nute: try "ifconfig eth1 up"
[10:37] <fejaor> Answer, couple of months ago I had it working.....since I changed my pc, this never worked again
[10:37] <setite> k8 it is
[10:38] <conor> I don't wanna but in but my usb isn't working, nothing that I plug in shows up, any suggestions?
[10:38] <nute> Answer: No such device.
[10:38] <setite> damn my grub is gonna look stupid with 3 kernels
[10:38] <Answer> nute: do you have a wired network card that is eth0?  or could eth0 be your wireless card?
[10:38] <setite> eth0 would be his first one
[10:38] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Is there some way to force apt-get to reinstall a package even if it's already installed?
[10:38] <nute> Answer: Yes.  eth0 is on a wire.
[10:38] <godzero> odat: no go?
[10:39] <tax0n> malverian[work] , you can do that from synaptic's gui.
[10:39] <odatubuntu> godzero: nope
[10:39] <setite> fuck im pissed.. i need another pepsi
[10:39] <seth_k|away> setite, language please.
[10:39] <Answer> nute: I don't know what to do if ifconfig and iwconfig do not see eth1.  Check for hardware compatibility https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[10:39] <geargolem_> python chatroom?
[10:39] <Seveas> malverian[work] , apt-get install --reinstall
[10:39] <Seveas> #pyrhon
[10:39] <Seveas> #python
[10:39] <odatubuntu> godzero: is there someplace i can put the file where i can find it during a recovery mode session
[10:39] <malverian[work] > tax0n, Need something command line.. I'm scripting it.
[10:39] <godzero> k: recovery mode ok,file location=anywhere your login can read. (sorry, it usually isn't this hard)
[10:39] <nute> Answer: Thanks.  That's where I got the information that it works out of the box.
[10:40] <mik3_> Seveas : why is it certain elements to web pages request for firefox to download a plugin, then can't successfuly download? is there a certain set of libs i should be installing or do you know of a universal package i can install right now to stop it?
[10:40] <NightBird> hey, I have a very linux specific question...
[10:40] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Does it apt-get remove the package first, or just extract over existing files? Eg.. if I did "apt-get install --reinstall apt" would it screw me?
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> How do u start a multi person chat in gaim on msn?
[10:40] <tax0n> malverian[work] , don't know about that, sorry.
[10:40] <Answer> nute: Compatible out of the box and working out of the box are different, it could be a broken card...
[10:40] <odatubuntu> godzero: well i did a recovery mode before and i went to the desktop directory and i could see anyfile that i have
[10:40] <NightBird> does anyone know if when a linux swap partition is set up if it has any kind of form, or is it more of a raw partition?
[10:40] <Answer> CookedGryphon:  gaim  CTRL+C
[10:40] <Seveas> it will remove it first, but since apt is loaded into memory you will not be screwed :)
[10:40] <harrytuttle> malverian[work] : should just overwrite the files.
[10:40] <godzero> odat: sounds correct
[10:40] <malverian[work] > Seveas, What about apt-get install --reinstall dpkg ?
[10:40] <thenuke> NightBird: tried google?
[10:40] <NightBird> I have not tried google
[10:41] <NightBird> I think I shall
[10:41] <odatubuntu> godzero: well then where can i put the file so i can find it during recovery mode?
[10:41] <Seveas> malverian[work] , will work too
[10:41] <thenuke> NightBird: but might be hard one to google :)
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> Answer, dosen''t work
[10:42] <nute> Answer: ...works on a Windows box, so I'm guessing the card is fine.
[10:42] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Looks like it just extracts over.
[10:42] <NightBird> yeah...
[10:42] <Gobbla> is there some way to make the screensaver to not go on when you are watching a movie?
[10:42] <godzero> odat: didn't you say you *could* see it in /home/xxxxxx/desktop?
[10:42] <tax0n> malverian[work] , you might want to look into KDE's DCOP for desktop scripting if you can't find anything on command line
[10:42] <odatubuntu> no couldn't see it
[10:42] <Answer> CookedGryphon:  CTRL+C in Gaim will open a new chat.
[10:42] <Daehlie> i booted using the ubuntu 5.04 install dvd and it gets to booting the kernel.ok and hangs, anyone know what the deal is?
[10:42] <Seveas> malverian[work] , no it really removes it first :)
[10:42] <odatubuntu> but i just did a cd Desktop
[10:42] <malverian[work] > tax0n, I don't use kde ;)
[10:42] <NightBird> I'm writing an OS, and I'm going to do a seperate partition for swapping, and I'm wondering if linux uses some kind file system on it, or if it's just kind of... raw copies of the data..
[10:42] <odatubuntu> not home usrname and desktop
[10:42] <conor> nute: I joined late, the cards isn't a broadcom chipset right, mine gave me grief
[10:42] <godzero> k, copy (not move) it to /temp
[10:43] <fejaor> Answer, couple of months ago I had it working.....since I changed my pc, this never worked again
[10:43] <fejaor> Im having problems with my 5 buttons mouse configuration....anyone that could help me?? I've tried the guides over ubuntu forums but still not working :S
[10:43] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Okay, I'll take your word for it :-P It's less destructive than doing `dpkg --ignore-depends="foo" -r "foo"` either way.
[10:43] <Seveas> malverian[work] , it does that in the background :)
[10:43] <Madpilot> fejaor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[10:43] <Seveas> but since it knows it will immediately reinstall it will not complain
[10:43] <mik3_> Seveas : why is it certain elements to web pages request for firefox to download a plugin, then can't successfuly download? is there a certain set of libs i should be installing or do you know of a universal package i can install right now to stop it?
[10:44] <[A] ndy80> :****
[10:44] <[A] ndy80> ops...
[10:44] <nute> conor: I don't know.  I think it's Atheros... but can't tell.
[10:44] <Seveas> mik3_, which plugin?
[10:44] <tax0n> malverian[work] , have you tried a work around script like deleting all relevant package's file and directory listings and running reinstall - i.e. remove apt's knowlege of target package as one installed
[10:44] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Well if it did a dpkg --ignore-depends=dpkg -r dpkg and then tried to dpkg -i a file.. it would fail seemingly.
[10:44] <Daehlie> i booted using the ubuntu 5.04 install dvd and it gets to booting the kernel.ok and hangs, anyone know what the deal is?
[10:44] <mik3_> Seveas : usually it's a java type plugin, flash seems to work ok
[10:44] <conor> Nute: sorry then, I can't be anyhelp lol good luck though
[10:44] <Seveas> malverian[work] , indeed, but that's because dpkg is unloaded from memory
[10:44] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to figure out why I do not have 32bit 3D acceleration with ubuntu... I am running AMD64 any help would be great
[10:45] <Madpilot> !tell mik3_ about java
[10:45] <malverian[work] > tax0n, Seveas provided me with a solution (apt-get install --reinstall pkgname)
[10:45] <LadyLinux> Need help wit modem driver dependancy -  sl-modem-modules-new - no package.
[10:45] <budluva> so whats the difference between the preview of breezy and the final release?
[10:45] <abarbaccia> hey all - anybody use gmail notifier?  mine refuses to log in
[10:45] <mik3_> im almost certain i instaleld java bu i'll try again
[10:45] <budluva> should i just wait for the final release?
[10:45] <malverian[work] > Seveas, Alright, I won't pretend to know the inner workings of apt. I just assumed it opened a pipe to the process for each operation.
[10:46] <conor> abarbaccia: mine g-mail notifier (under firefox I presume) works fine.  Truy reinstalling the extension
[10:46] <Quinthius> budluva: preview is still beta and needs fixes
[10:46] <abarbaccia> not the firefox extension - the actual gmail notifier in breezy
[10:47] <conor> oh, I didn't realize there was one, I wanna check that out.
[10:47] <Quinthius> abarbaccia: where do you get the notifier?
[10:47] <malverian[work] > I don't understand how apt removed all of my shared object files...
[10:47] <malverian[work] > It's pretty ridiculous.. I think a perl package got screwed up and it borked my entire system when apt tried to carry on with installing packages.
[10:48] <jpfarias> hey people
[10:48] <malverian[work] > Since apt uses perl for a lot of backend stuff..
[10:48] <setite> seveas... whats the header thing again
[10:48] <reiki_work> is a tilde an illegal character in a filename?
[10:48] <jpfarias> what's the default root password on a new ubuntu hoary install?
[10:48] <Quinthius> reiki_work: no
[10:48] <Seveas> grmbl...
[10:48] <reiki_work> Quinthius: ok thanks
[10:48] <godzero> jpfarias: there is none
[10:49] <NightBird> ok, I found the answer, thanks
[10:49] <jpfarias> just <enter> will work?
[10:49] <Quinthius> jpfarias: root is disabled by default, use sudo
[10:49] <godzero> nothing will work, not possable, use sudo
[10:49] <jpfarias> Quinthius, what you mean with "use sudo"?
[10:49] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know how to get 3d acceleration to work with 32bit stuff in AMD64 ubuntu?
[10:49] <mik3_> how do i install a .bin file?
[10:49] <war-totem> has anyone ever gotten corner xmms gdesklet to work?
[10:50] <Quinthius> jpfarias: execute commands that need root access, with "sudo command"
[10:50] <SlicerDicer-> mik3_, sh foo.bin
[10:50] <mik3_> k
[10:50] <Quinthius> jpfarias: such as: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <jpfarias> Quinthius, but I want a root shell =(
[10:50] <Quinthius> jpfarias: sudo -H -s
[10:50] <mik3_> he means sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <jpfarias> hmm
[10:50] <godzero> root shell like: sudo -i
[10:50] <war-totem> i keep getting a sensor can not be found
[10:50] <SlicerDicer-> mik3_, nah sudo nano /etx/X11/xorg.conf :P
[10:50] <mik3_> hehe
[10:50] <SlicerDicer-> mik3_, there is 10billion ways to skin that cat
[10:51] <mik3_> =P
[10:51] <mik3_> anything but vi!
[10:51] <SlicerDicer-> lol
[10:51] <setite> hear hear!
[10:51] <SlicerDicer-> I prefer nano myself pico is welll too pico :)
[10:51] <evian> I am new to sudo too
[10:51] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know how to get 3d acceleration to work with 32bit stuff in AMD64 ubuntu?
[10:51] <evian> I tried: sudo su
[10:52] <evian> and that worked
[10:52] <godzero> nano aint bad for quick stuff, I kinda like it
[10:52] <jpfarias> sudo -H -s asks for password
[10:52] <mjr> SlicerDicer-, with DRI, it just doesn't work yet :I
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> Answer, yeah well go p0wns somewhere else nano pwns joo
[10:52] <mik3_> heh i tried adding myself to the wheel group the first time i installed ubuntu =P
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> mjr, I dont use DRI I am using nvidia
[10:52] <Quinthius> jpfarias: type your password. just as with all other sudo commands
[10:52] <Answer> www.p0wn.com
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> mjr, I usto have it working back a few months ago when I tried ubuntu before I just cant remember how to do it
[10:52] <Quinthius> jpfarias: sudo -i may be better, btw. i just read up on it
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> Answer, :P
[10:54] <teeagoo> hello, somebody can helpme!!!? When i start session (gdm) and login, XFCE dont works? ( openbox and gnome do not have problem, sorry for my bad english)
[10:54] <linukso> Wow! I installed breezy on my test machine, and I am impressed! Looks very nice
[10:54] <Quinthius> linukso: yup, i like it a lot better than hoary, just some bugs floating around still
[10:54] <carlos_> Is it posible to upgrade to Gnome 2.12 in Ubuntu Hoary, without installing Ubuntu Breeze ?
[10:55] <deFrysk> carlos_, only if you wish to break your system
[10:55] <Seveas> indeeed
[10:55] <linukso> gnome is improving with every release! even nautilus is usable now :D
[10:55] <jpfarias> duh
[10:55] <jpfarias> sudo -i worked
[10:55] <theine> carlos_, why not update to breezy when it's released?
[10:55] <jpfarias> I thought sudo asked for root password
[10:55] <jpfarias> not my password
[10:55] <Quinthius> jpfarias: sudo -H -s should work just as well. sudo always asks for your pass, not root's
[10:56] <linukso> carlos_: I think you would have less trouble if you installed breezy instead of upgrading gnome on hoary...
[10:56] <Quinthius> jpfarias: but it will only ask once every 15 mins or so
[10:56] <carlos_> I will do, but really liked the new gnome and the preview released of breeze is giving me problems
[10:56] <Quinthius> jpfarias: so it doesnt get too annoying
[10:56] <SlicerDicer-> mjr, is there extra 32bit libs I can install?
[10:56] <setite> yay im gonna upgrade back to hoary... screw breezy for now
[10:56] <Seveas> (Quinthius, you can set it up to ask for the root pass ;))
[10:56] <deFrysk> carlos_, 13 oct is only for weeks from now
[10:56] <jpfarias> does anyone knows how to make X work on higher resolutions?
[10:56] <deFrysk> be patient ;p
[10:56] <Seveas> !resolution
[10:56] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:57] <setite> !tell jpfarias about resolutions
[10:57] <Quinthius> Seveas: not surprising... but never seen that, hehe
[10:57] <linukso> on my test system breezy seemed rock solid, and gnome 2.12 felt a lot faster than 2.10
[10:57] <carlos_> Yhea i'll have to wait :)
[10:57] <godzero> jp: you're in the sudoers list. sudoers uses youur current pwd
[10:57] <setite> damn i messed that up
[10:57] <carlos_> btw the breeze is looking really good
[10:57] <carlos_> indeed gnome 2.12 felt faster for me also
[10:57] <jpfarias> learned a lot in 5 mins =D
[10:57] <Miguelzinho> is there a dumb way to share a printer to windows machines?
[10:57] <setite> wtf.. he is telling me he doesnt know what to do with resolution either
[10:57] <setite> ubotu is fucking with me
[10:58] <ubotu> setite: No idea
[10:58] <godzero> jp: that's why you want a stront password for your main login
[10:58] <nalioth> setite: language, please
[10:58] <nalioth> setite: what are you asking ubotu?
[10:58] <setite> yesss mr. naliiooothhhhh
[10:58] <setite> i was asking him about resolution
[10:59] <setite> but in query i have to leave out the !.... didnt know that
[10:59] <SlicerDicer-> is there a command like linux32 to run 32bit stuff in AMD64 ubuntu?
[10:59] <setite> SlicerDicer-, some just runs
[10:59] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: you have to chroot
[10:59] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, umm... I did not have to a month ago the only thing I am having trouble with is 3D acceleration
[11:00] <fejaor> ok...I have my mouse working....but not with the correct buttons....the thumb buttons are the scrolling and the scrolling is the thumb buttons
[11:00] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: i dont' have an amd64, (i'm more handicapped than that)
[11:00] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, I understand :)
[11:00] <godzero> fejaor: that's what soldering irons are for
[11:00] <conor> Hey guys, when I plug in any usb device it doesn't mount, or show up, help please!
[11:00] <fejaor> mmmm
[11:00] <abarbaccia> how do i get my gstreamer engine to play mp3 files
[11:00] <abarbaccia> ?
[11:01] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, I havent run a chroot since novemeber of last year and have refused to :) I dont feel that there is a need hehe
[11:01] <nalioth> abarbaccia: use gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:01] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: if i were running amd64, i'd probably have compiled all my stuff myself (but that's just me)
[11:02] <setite> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:02] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, I know there is a way to fix this I did it the last time I used ubuntu I just cannot remember how I did it
[11:02] <fejaor> all I need is how to change the thumb buttons to be back and forward and the scrolling button to scroll up and down
[11:02] <evian> I love ubuntu so far. I'm thinking to introduce my dad to it. But he only has a 56k modem. Does an install take all day and night with that?
[11:02] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, I have searched forums but I cant find what I need
[11:02] <odatubuntu> setite: still having problems?
[11:02] <Lethal-Rocks> evian, Only if you do it by net
[11:02] <funkyHat> evian, no, as long as he doesn't say download updated packages during the install
[11:02] <funkyHat> he can update once he's got it running
[11:03] <evian> ok thanks
[11:03] <fejaor> someone who can help me??
[11:03] <fejaor> all I need is how to change the thumb buttons to be back and forward and the scrolling button to scroll up and down
[11:04] <evian> I used to use mandrake, but since I started playing around with an ipaq with a debian based dist on it, I got interested in debian.
[11:04] <sorush20> I can 't  eject the cdrom can someone help please. .
[11:05] <cevizoglu> sorush20: eject cdrom doesn't work?
[11:05] <evian> I need to read a good Debian book now (since there aren't any ubuntu books out yet)
[11:05] <Ubuntu_U> sorush - eject /media/cdrom
[11:05] <Ubuntu_U> sorush - umount  -f /media/cdrom
[11:05] <makkk> does anyone know why i cant seem to be able to ssh into localhost?
[11:05] <Ubuntu_U> sorush - ps -e kill the process locking it.
[11:05] <Seveas> makkk, because you did not install the ssh server?
[11:06] <godzero> fejaor: sorry, I have no clue
[11:06] <johns^> or it isn'' t running
[11:06] <makkk> seveas, no no, its worked in the past,
[11:06] <cevizoglu> makkk: are you getting an error message?
[11:06] <makkk> no, it just times out
[11:06] <Seveas> makkk, any info from /var/log/auth.log?
[11:06] <sorush20> cevizoglu: no it doesn't can someone hel p please
[11:06] <makkk> sshd seems to be running
[11:06] <fejaor> godzero, thanks anyway
[11:06] <fejaor> someone who can help me??
[11:06] <fejaor> all I need is how to change the thumb buttons to be back and forward and the scrolling button to scroll up and down
[11:07] <Ubuntu_U> Seveas - hint me/point me to the command/app to change display color depth on the fly.
[11:07] <cevizoglu> sorush20: is something on the cd still in use?  is your pwd on the cd?
[11:07] <hajiki> Ubuntu_U, System > Preferences > System Resolution
[11:08] <harrytuttle> Ubuntu_U: doesn't exist as long as i know it
[11:08] <makkk> seveas, what should i look for in /etc/log/auth.log?
[11:08] <hajiki> Ubuntu_U, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[11:08] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know how to get 3d acceleration to work with 32bit stuff in AMD64 ubuntu?
[11:08] <Seveas> any unusual things like login errors
[11:08] <sorush20> cevizoglu: it was working fine a few minutes ago.. .. I have had to force umount.. its not mounted but I keep getting errors that I can't eject it..
[11:08] <Seveas> Ubuntu_U, afaik there is no on-the-fly way of doing thaat...
[11:08] <Daehlie> anyone else having trouble even getting the amd64 install disc to boot?
[11:08] <makkk> seveas, dont see anything strange
[11:09] <sorush20> does freenode log all the chats...
[11:09] <Seveas> makkk, netstat -tlp | grep ssh
[11:09] <deFrysk> yes
[11:09] <deFrysk> ubuntu does anyway
[11:09] <Seveas> does that give output?
[11:09] <Ubuntu_U> Seveas - xorg <options>   controls color depth?
[11:09] <kicolobo> hi, i had just updated my system using synaptic and now my sound is mute.
[11:09] <makkk> seveas: (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
[11:09] <makkk>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
[11:09] <makkk> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN     -
[11:10] <kicolobo> How can I configure the sound?
[11:10] <Seveas> !sound
[11:10] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[11:10] <timbltimbl> hi, can someone please help me, i'm having trouble, getting: "error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format"
[11:10] <kicolobo> thanks
[11:10] <abarbaccia> anybody got the site to enable all the buttons on my intellimouse?
[11:10] <makkk> seveas: with sudo: tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN     7458/sshd
[11:10] <deFrysk> timbltimbl, thats something you cannot install
[11:11] <Seveas> makkk, right, it only listens on ipv6 apparently
[11:11] <Seveas> ssh ::1 should work
[11:11] <deFrysk> timbltimbl, or are you trying to play an mp3 ?
[11:11] <makkk> seveas, what do you mean?
[11:11] <Ubuntu_U> You guys are great! The reason Ubuntu is kicking butt aginst other very well known and long established distributions.  :)
[11:11] <makkk> and how do i make it go back to normal?
[11:11] <test34> makkk, when it says ipv6, it listen on ipv4 too
[11:11] <timbltimbl> defrysk, no, i'm not, i'm trying to boot to ubuntu, but i keep getting that error from grub bootloader
[11:12] <Seveas> makkk, I mean that ths ssh server does not listen at 127.0.0.1 (localhost) but only at ::1 (ipv6-localhost)
[11:12] <Seveas> restart the ssh server
[11:12] <cevizoglu> Ubuntu_U: I think it's kicking butt because it **works** on my powerbook  :)
[11:12] <Seveas> or try ssh ::1
[11:12] <sorush20> I had to sudo eject the cdrom..
[11:12] <deFrysk> timbltimbl, not sure how to fix that
[11:12] <makkk> network unreachable
[11:12] <theine> Hi, is grub actually able to boot a floppy image located on an ext2 partition via its chainload mechanism (or any aother means for that matter...)?
[11:12] <Lethal-Rocks> !tell me about rt 2500
[11:13] <Seveas> Lethal-Rocks, at has a page at the wiki
[11:13] <makkk> I'll try to restart it
[11:13] <harrytuttle> theine: with the help of memdisk, yes
[11:13] <test34> makkk, did you change the default port ?
[11:13] <makkk> test34, not voluntarily
[11:14] <makkk> i dont remember doing anything different. could firefox1.5b1 have screwed things up?
[11:14] <Seveas> makkk, did restarting the thing work?
[11:14] <Seveas> makkk, no
[11:14] <timbltimbl> anyone has a bit of time to help me out please?
[11:14] <kemik> maybe
[11:14] <steveO_Office> who is running 5.10 with vmware here? im have just a small bit of trouble
[11:14] <theine> harrytuttle, which is the syslinux image loader?
[11:14] <kemik> !anyone
[11:14] <ubotu> I heard anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:15] <harrytuttle> theine: it is part of the syslinux project, but you can download a memdisk image separately from the net without recompiling it and using it to boot a floppy disk image (or a small hard disk image)
[11:15] <makkk> saveas, no luck after having restarted it with bootup manager
[11:15] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know how to get 3d acceleration to work with 32bit stuff in AMD64 ubuntu?
[11:15] <dabaRCo>  kemik I can get that factoid, cause I am always on this channel, and I had to read it twice. COnsider rewriting.
[11:15] <anybody> too..much..red..text
[11:16] <Seveas> makkk, paste your sshd.conf on the pastebin
[11:16] <harrytuttle> theine: (it pretty cool, nevermind handy...)
[11:16] <dabaRCo> anybody: hah.
[11:16] <sorush20> how do I mount a cdrw from terminal can someone help please.. I have cd /media/cdrom1
[11:16] <makkk> seveas, can i get that link again?
[11:16] <Auriacan> Seveas, mind if i download something from your site?
[11:16] <dabaRCo> makkk: its in the topic
[11:16] <dabaRCo> makkk: /topic
[11:16] <Seveas> Auriacan, not at all, what do you need?
[11:16] <makkk> ahh, thanks. also where is sshd.conf?
[11:17] <dabaRCo> makkk: /etc/ssh
[11:17] <Auriacan> the java SDK
[11:17] <erUSUL> hi, i've seen a big update today for hoary (~50 MB) what have caused this? is this for the firefox flaw only?
[11:17] <kemik> dabaRCo:  think someone edited it
[11:17] <theine> harrytuttle, it does sound extremely handy, thanks for the info!
[11:17] <spiral> erUSUL: it was an X update
[11:17] <Seveas> Auriacan, msg me the username and password you want
[11:19] <makkk> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2108
[11:19] <codenut> Can someone help me with PPP configuration?
[11:19] <makkk> this was 'sshd_config', there was no 'sshd.conf'
[11:19] <timbltimbl> kemik, my computer crashed while it was doing an update for the kernel and now everytime i try to boot to ubuntu, i get an error message from grub saying: "error 13: invald or unsupported executable format"
[11:20] <timbltimbl> i think the problem is simply that i have no kernel for the moment
[11:20] <CookedGryphon> i have jsut done a very bad thing....
[11:20] <makkk> night keik
[11:20] <codenut> Any one using a modem connection with ubuntu to the internet?
[11:20] <CookedGryphon> codenut, yeah
[11:20] <Seveas> makkk, put the output of ifconfig on the pastebin
[11:20] <kicolobo> is there any way to make my system redetect my sound card?
[11:21] <kemik> timbltimbl:  that seems to be the error yes..
[11:21] <cevizoglu> !tell codenut about anyone
[11:21] <timbltimbl> how can i solve it?
[11:21] <kemik> "This error is returned if the kernel image being loaded is not recognized as Multiboot or one of the supported native formats (Linux zImage or bzImage, FreeBSD, or NetBSD)."
[11:21] <timbltimbl> any ideas?
[11:21] <sorush20> I wrote a cd at uni and wanted to view it on the ubuntu system but its haveing a lot of problems reading the cd but there was no errors on the burn.. I used roxio 5.5 its having problems reading the cd as I type.. can some one help.. it mount okay but to access the files.. its taking ages..
[11:21] <timbltimbl> so, i do have a kernel?
[11:22] <makkk> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2109
[11:22] <rapha> Hi all.
[11:22] <abarbaccia> anybody ever get this error about you .dmrc file and permissions when you are logging in?
[11:22] <kemik> timbltimbl:  it seems to be broken... not sure how to recover
[11:22] <rapha> I've a request.
[11:22] <schleyfox> hey, yeah I just resized my windows drive, all the data is dandy (I have checked), but it won't boot
[11:22] <pnall_> okej
[11:22] <schleyfox> I installed ubuntu
[11:22] <Seveas> makkk, right
[11:22] <Seveas> sudo ifup lo
[11:22] <pnall_> s r jag hr
[11:23] <Seveas> pnall_, please stick to english in here
[11:23] <rapha> You guys must disable the "Skyrocket" screen saver by default. My girl and I were just lying in bed *making love* and then there's a loud BOOOOM! BOBOBOOBOOOOM! from the speakers.
[11:23] <timbltimbl> i tried with a suggestion from someone else, booting from knoppic, chroot to ubuntu and then install kernel, but the install did not work
[11:23] <schleyfox> grub manages to load the windows booter but it fails
[11:23] <Seveas> rapha, rofl :)
[11:23] <makkk> seveas, thanks. that seems to have worked
[11:23] <pnall_> Yes master
[11:23] <rapha> Recently my grandmother was here for a visit. And suddenly she nearly fell off her chair.
[11:23] <kemik> googled it but found nothing interesting right away..
[11:23] <Seveas> makkk, is there a line 'auto lo' in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:23] <rapha> Seveas: Believe me, if you'd been in that situation you wouldn't be laughing now.
[11:24] <Madpilot> rapha: that one startled me a while ago too - now I remember to turn my speakers off when I leave the computer alone!
[11:24] <kemik> sorry timbltimbl, never seen that before.. stick around and ask again later, or try the forums :/
[11:24] <rapha> This thing mustn't be enabled by default.
[11:24] <makkk> seveas, yes
[11:24] <kicolobo> how can I configure my sound system? Is there any tool I can use to do that?
[11:24] <codenut> I am having trouble with the PPP modem configuration for a hardware modem.
[11:24] <Srekel> hi!
[11:24] <codenut> It will not take for some reason and I am unable to set the default gateway to it.
[11:24] <Srekel> I get " ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available"
[11:24] <Seveas> makkk, ok, was just checking :)
[11:24] <Srekel> what might be the cause of that?
[11:25] <bartimaeus> hey, can anyone explain DNS servers?  Setting up an apache web server?
[11:25] <codenut> I can to a lan card, but not the PPP.
[11:25] <Noah0504> Hey everyone.
[11:25] <abarbaccia> can somebody here give me their ~/,dmrc file because somehow mine is gone and it yells at me every time i log in
[11:25] <Seveas> bartimaeus, apache is not a dns server...
[11:25] <makkk> seveas, well, hopefully this was a fluke and problem solved. thanks
[11:25] <Bubblefly> Will updating with the update manager do the exact same thing as apt-get upgrading in the end?
[11:25] <bartimaeus> ya, i know
[11:25] <codenut> Also, it connects and then immediately dumps.
[11:25] <Seveas> abarbaccia:
[11:25] <Seveas> [Desktop] 
[11:25] <schleyfox> exit
[11:25] <jims> Anyone able to help a newbie with troubleshooting .11g and WEP key?
[11:25] <Seveas> Session=default
[11:25] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to figure out why I have 32bit direct rendering in AMD64 but I do not have 3D acceleration can somebody please help me?
[11:25] <Madpilot> !tell bartimaeus about lamp
[11:25] <timbltimbl> kemik, what kernel do you have?
[11:25] <Seveas> these 2 lines is all ;)
[11:25] <erUSUL> timbltimbl, boot from the live-cd and chroot to the old install once mounted
[11:25] <codenut> DNS is set up.
[11:25] <bartimaeus> the docs say I need to do something with a DNS server in order to do virtual hosting
[11:26] <abarbaccia> Seveas, thanks a bunch
[11:26] <erUSUL> timbltimbl, then tou can continue the upgrade
[11:26] <codenut> Is there another way to set up PPP without the GUI?
[11:26] <timbltimbl> erunsul i tried that but could not continue the upgrade
[11:26] <Seveas> bartimaeus, you need to point the domains to your machine if you want to host these domains
[11:26] <bartimaeus> ya, how do i do that?
[11:26] <erUSUL> codenut, pppconfig
[11:26] <FlyingSquirrel32> where can I get details on the new features of breazy?
[11:26] <erUSUL> timbltimbl, :(
[11:26] <sorush20> when I try to copy from the cd rom I keep getting stalled in the konqueror status bar can someone help please..
[11:26] <kemik> timbltimbl:  2.6.10-5-386
[11:27] <timbltimbl> this may be dumb, but is it possible to paste a compiled kernel (from someone else) to /boot
[11:27] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, wiki.ubuntu.com/Breezygoals
[11:27] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12
[11:27] <nalioth_wrkn> sorush20: do you stall when you copy with nautilus or the terminal?
[11:27] <Seveas> timbltimbl, it's dumb to do that :)
[11:27] <bartimaeus> how do i point the domains to my computer?
[11:27] <codenut> I will check that out.
[11:27] <erUSUL> timbltimbl, you'll need lib/modules aswell
[11:27] <theine> Does anybody know why on breezy the actually hostnames of any remote machine do not show up anymore in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[11:27] <erUSUL> and the initrd
[11:27] <Seveas> bartimaeus, register them and make your registrant do that
[11:28] <bartimaeus> oh, ok
[11:28] <bartimaeus> cool
[11:28] <jims> I have recently installed Ubuntu on my laptop and the wireless settings have to be reconfigured each time I reboot.  Any suggestions?
[11:28] <timbltimbl> mm, other possible solutions?
[11:28] <Noah0504> Can anyone help a noob add MP3 and Divx support to Ubuntu?
[11:29] <kemik> !restricted
[11:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:29] <nalioth_wrkn> !tell Noah0504 about restricted
[11:29] <Seveas> theine, HashKnownHosts = yes (/etc/ssh/ssh_config)
[11:29] <Seveas> that's the reason
[11:29] <Seveas> hoary did not have that line
[11:29] <Bubblefly> Because the update manager was in the top panel when I woke up this morning, and I was like "Okay." and it upgraded like, two things... and I just did an apt-get upgrade and it was like "100 things to update."
[11:29] <theine> Seveas, ah great, thanks a lot
[11:30] <theine> Seveas, I wouldn't bother if bash_completion wouldn't be so damn handy in this case...
[11:30] <Noah0504> Thanks!
[11:31] <Noah0504> That's one reason I liked Debian, it had support for basically all codecs...But, Ubunut is much more user friendly.
[11:31] <okapi_14> hello, anyone can tell about root privilege and sudo command? I do not understand how it works
[11:31] <Noah0504> Now I have the best of both worlds.
[11:32] <nalioth_wrkn> !tell okapi_14 about root
[11:32] <jims> Is there anyone who can help a newbie with Wireless configuration?
[11:32] <rapha> Kay, posted a bug in bugzilla.
[11:32] <rapha> G'night everbody!
[11:33] <anybody> jims, whats the problem
[11:33] <theine> okapi_14, if you prefix any command with `sudo' you effectively run that command with root privileges
[11:33] <abarbaccia> Seveas, on that file, who owns it and what are the permissions?
[11:33] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having a little trouble setting up a NIS client
[11:33] <ompaul> !tell okapi_14 about root
[11:33] <hmrocha> i don't know what's happening
[11:33] <jims> Anybody - Everytime I reboot my laptop, I have to re-enter the WEP key.
[11:33] <hmrocha> i have portmap installed
[11:33] <hmrocha> and the nis package too
[11:33] <Seveas> abarbaccia, which file?
[11:33] <Auriacan> are there any motif source files for ubuntu?
[11:34] <hmrocha> i set up the nisdomainname
[11:34] <abarbaccia> .dmrc
[11:34] <hmrocha> edited /etc/yp.conf and added "ypserver <ip>"
[11:34] <Seveas> abarbaccia, you, permission 600
[11:34] <abarbaccia> I don't get it....
[11:34] <hmrocha> but when i run /etc/init.d/nis start, it's too slow
[11:35] <hmrocha> and ypcat passwd.byname doesn't work
[11:35] <hmrocha> what might be happening?
[11:35] <renardo> nerolinux c vraiment mardique je confirme
[11:35] <abarbaccia> it keeps giving me this warning when i log in, but its such BS because it loads my session even tho it says it wont
[11:35] <Seveas> abarbaccia, what is the exact warning?
[11:36] <jims> Any: If I don't go through the configuration applet, no DNS works. (I have DHCP thru my router).
[11:36] <abarbaccia> Your $HOME/.dmrc does not have the correct permissions and will therefore be ignored.  Your default session will not be loaded.  The file should be owned by the user with permissions 644.
[11:37] <eric123> hey guys
[11:37] <codenut> THanks to all for your little gems of ideas to help me set up ubuntu!!!!!
[11:37] <abarbaccia> Alright, i gotta run, i'll google some more later on...oh well.
[11:37] <Seveas> abarbaccia, and what happens if you chown it to you and set permission 644?
[11:37] <eric123> quick ubuntu question, i have  a abit mother board with a built in video car...
[11:37] <codenut> pppconfig seems to be the thingJ!!
[11:38] <godzero> abaraccia: check owner's name and uid
[11:38] <abarbaccia> Seveas, i get the same error!
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> when i use gl2 either in mplayer or quake my pc sometimes freezes, does the hardware run too hot? 57C on my gfx chip
[11:38] <eric123> but it wont see it when i load it... how do i have ubuntu find it and load onthe monitor?
[11:38] <sorush20> I've put into the CD drive a CDRW written with ROXIO and I have problems with reading from the CDRW
[11:38] <floo> nvidia hardware accelleration broken
[11:38] <funkyHat> XD
[11:39] <funkyHat> using breezy colony 4 live CD. everything works great
[11:39] <funkyHat> including the nVidia glx drivers
[11:39] <Seveas> abarbaccia, ls -al ~/.dmrc
[11:40] <sorush20> are there ati drivers available
[11:40] <funkyHat> would it be advisable for me to uninstall nvidia-glx before doing the upgrade, and then reinstalling it afterwards? so as to avoid any mishaps :)
[11:41] <deFrysk> funkyHat, no need for that
[11:42] <funkyHat> cool :)
[11:42] <funkyHat> i'm thinking i'll do the upgrade today then :)
[11:42] <jims> If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it.  I installed Ubunto onto my latop and everything worked great.  When I rebooted, my wireless didn't work.  Going through the Config applet, DNS starting working agin and it was OK.  But the settings are not saved for the next reboot.  I have to re-enter the WEP key to get networking to start again.
[11:43] <cogumbreiro> how can I access the patches in a certain package?
[11:43] <Seveas> jims, you might want to consider manually editing /etc/network/interfaces
[11:43] <jims> I have tried enter the WEP key as 'xxxxxx' and xx:xx:xx and xxxx:xxxx:xxxx each will work the first time, but not when it reboots...
[11:43] <Seveas> cogumbreiro, by doing apt-get source packagename and inspecting the diff.gz
[11:43] <jims> Any suggestions for a newbie?
[11:44] <cogumbreiro> Seveas, thx :)
[11:44] <jims> Seveas: What should the file look like?
[11:46] <godzero> jims: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12045.html
[11:46] <ColonelKernel> how stable is the breezy preview release
[11:46] <Seveas> ColonelKernel, quite stable
[11:46] <jims> Godzero: Thanks, I'll check that web page!
[11:46] <funkyHat> very stable for me :)
[11:46] <funkyHat> i'm upgrading in about 1/2 hour
[11:47] <funkyHat> (running the live CD of colony 4 now)
[11:47] <Auriacan> does anyone do motif aplication programming on ubuntu?
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> im using hoary with the breezy kernel
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.12-8.12
[11:47] <LasseL> does anyone do motif programming anywhere?
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> smooth as silk really
[11:47] <Auriacan> yes
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> anyhow thanks
[11:47] <cevizoglu> when I accidentally make a chat window detach from my tabs in xchat, how do I put it back?
[11:47] <holycow> ColonelKernel, consider it unstable until released
[11:47] <Srekel> guys, which kernel comes with ubuntu now?
[11:47] <Auriacan> it's part of class
[11:47] <Auriacan> so i gotta do it
[11:48] <cevizoglu> nevermind
[11:48] <holycow> 2.6.10
[11:48] <welly> Hello all, I don't suppose anyone can give me a bit of help with ICS and my ubuntu install? :) I've got two network cards in my windows box, one going to the internet, the other using a crossover cable to my linux box
[11:48] <welly> having no luck at all sharing the internet connection :()
[11:48] <Auriacan> but ubuntu doesn't come with the libraries i need to build motif aplications
[11:48] <holycow> welly, your windows box is the router?
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> no, because motif was obsoleted.... a long time ago
[11:49] <erUSUL> Auriacan, have you tried lesstif
[11:49] <erUSUL> ?
[11:49] <holycow> -_-
[11:49] <Auriacan> lesstif?
[11:49] <welly> holycow, basically yes.. everytime i turn on the ICS in windows, i lose my connection to my linux machine
[11:49] <LightVision> hello
[11:49] <Srekel> holycow, thanks
[11:49] <LightVision> when is new ubuntu released?
[11:49] <holycow> Srekel, no worries
[11:49] <erUSUL> Auriacan, a gpl motif clone
[11:50] <welly> lol holycow, only if your warez site will supply apps smaller than a few megs :) very very small hard drive
[11:50] <erUSUL> Auriacan,  apt-cache search lesstif
[11:50] <holycow> welly, i'm not sure about winners ics stuff, i would never imagine using such a thing, puttin winners on the net is not a good idea
[11:51] <holycow> in otherwords, i haven't a clue :)
[11:51] <Auriacan> does it work like motif?
[11:51] <Fiyawerx> is there a "best way" to set up a system for a dual boot with xp/ubuntu? i see a lot of articles on how to add ubuntu to a windows system, but I was going to redo the system as a whole, and was wondering what i should plan for
[11:51] <welly> holycow, fair enough.. it's a temporary solution until i get my router up and running
[11:51] <godzero> welly: sounds like a firewall (on win box) issue
[11:52] <hexion> hi!
[11:52] <Seveas> Fiyawerx, easiest is to install windows first
[11:52] <holycow> godzero, excellent guess infact
[11:52] <erUSUL> Auriacan, i never used it but is supsed to be a replacement. anyway motif is now free too
[11:52] <Auriacan> yeah, but i can't seem to install openmotif
[11:52] <Fiyawerx> I've been trying to decide how to partition everything, I can have a partition that both can read/write to, correct?
[11:53] <welly> godzero, nah.. it's turned off at the moment
[11:53] <Fiyawerx> its a 250 gig hard drive, and I can't decide how to split it up
[11:53] <erUSUL> Auriacan, http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/
[11:53] <Seveas> Fiyawerx, yeah, a fat32 partition
[11:53] <hexion> I'm trying to configure kismet under ubuntu... I have to edit kismet.conf but I don't know what's my wireless module... How do I see it? (I've done "lsmod" but I can't see it)
[11:53] <Auriacan> yeah, i have the devel pack, but it won't install
[11:53] <Seveas> Auriacan, did you install it with apt-get?
[11:53] <cyphase> when do you think NTFS support will be good in linux? about the time WinFS comes out?
[11:54] <Auriacan> you can apt-get openmotif?
[11:54] <cyphase> lol
[11:54] <godzero> welly: xp home or pro?
[11:54] <Seveas> cyphase, it will never be good as long as MS won't release the specifications for it
[11:54] <welly> godzero, xp pro
[11:54] <hexion> I'm trying to configure kismet under ubuntu... I have to edit kismet.conf but I don't know what's my wireless module... How do I see it? (I've done "lsmod" but I can't see it)
[11:55] <godzero> there went my theory
[11:55] <welly> lol
[11:55] <LightVision> any ops here?
[11:55] <Seveas> LightVision, yes, why?
[11:55] <Stark> Hey
[11:55] <Stark> Could someone help me out?
[11:55] <glDaher> I was just upgrading to breezy, with apt-get dist-upgrade ... my sources.lst was edited... but I get an error...  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:55] <glDaher> something about kdevelop-data ... etc
[11:55] <emile> hexion: follow the wiki on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrinocoMonitorKismet2005Hoary?highlight=%28kismet%29
[11:56] <godzero> does your linux box get a ip addr from dhcp?
[11:56] <Seveas> !tell Stark about anyone
[11:56] <hexion> ok
[11:56] <lazy> why cant totem player play anything in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:56] <hexion> thanks emile
[11:57] <lazy> can anyone help me ?
[11:57] <Stark> I installed Ubuntu yesterday, got to the part where you have to restart your computer, and even got to GRUB, but when I try to start Ubuntu, it displays up to "boot", then and underscore and does nothing
[11:57] <Auriacan> Seveas, if you can install openmotif using apt-get please tell me how
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> 5% [11 libdps-dev 322904/375kB 86%]                                                                             1337B/s 8h20m38s
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> haha 1337
[11:57] <lazy> totem wont play nothin
[11:57] <Seveas> libmotif-dev - Open Motif - development files
[11:57] <Seveas> libmotif3 - Open Motif - shared libraries
[11:57] <Stark> What am I supposed to do?
[11:57] <Seveas> ^-- Auriacan
[11:57] <jaku> Stark: an acpi problem?
[11:57] <Auriacan> sweet
[11:57] <Auriacan> thanx
[11:58] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, :>
[11:58] <Stark> I don't know, this would be my first foray into linux
[11:58] <lazy> anyone wanna help me ?
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : its slooooww
[11:58] <Stark> any suggestions would be helpful
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> but leet dude
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> lazy : mplayer file.avi
[11:58] <jaku> stark try linux acpi=off or google something like this
[11:59] <Auriacan> Seveas, i can't seem to apt-get those packages
[11:59] <Stark> I can't even start linux, though, when I select it from the boot menu it just freezes
[11:59] <Seveas> !info libmotif3
[11:59] <ubotu> libmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section multiverse/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1190 kB, Installed size: 2968 kB
[11:59] <Seveas> ah -- enable multiverse
[11:59] <godzero> welly: the win box should look like a router to the linux box, therefor it's best to have it booted first, so lin box can get dhcp
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> if my pc sometimes freezes when using gl2 is it a graphics card overheating? runs @ 57C
[11:59] <glDaher> if stuck during the upgrade, most probably the whole system is ruined, right?
[11:59] <CarlFK> how can I dl podcasts from apple itunes?
[12:00] <jaku> how can I safely disconnect an ipod mini?