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| Bubblefly | >.> I seem to have killed #edubuntu | 12:19 |
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| shik45 | anyone got screenshots | 04:23 |
| shik45 | i wanna see what it looks like | 04:23 |
| shik45 | i use Ubuntu | 04:23 |
| shik45 | with KDE | 04:23 |
| shik45 | not kubuntu | 04:23 |
| shik45 | anyone have screenshots? | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 04:37 |
| jsgotangco | its basically the same desktop | 04:37 |
| jsgotangco | except that it'll have a different icon set and backgrounds | 04:37 |
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| geirix | hi all | 05:57 |
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| KermitJr | Hello | 05:58 |
| geirix | so everybody excited about edubuntu? | 05:58 |
| KermitJr | What's it take to get edit priviledges on wiki? | 05:59 |
| KermitJr | I think i'm excited... its almost perfect | 05:59 |
| KermitJr | anyone have wiki access? I ahve a recommendation | 06:00 |
| geirix | yeah...i'm actually gona try to get the school i'm teaching in to move from m$ win xp and active directory to edubuntu | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | I run a non-profit that has been making a custom morphix livecd | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | and setting up ltsp | 06:00 |
| geirix | ubuntu is excellent, but to be able to teach kids linux, that is more then great | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | but I've been mainly kde | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | Having to mess a bit for the gnome part | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | seems smooth though | 06:00 |
| KermitJr | but the LiveCD stinks... SSSLLLLOOOOWWWWW | 06:00 |
| geirix | well, gnome is still ahead in my books :-) | 06:01 |
| KermitJr | And you should be able to install from livecd... I know that was an original goal of Oct release, but not gonna happen now | 06:01 |
| geirix | live cd's , hmmm... slax seems to have quick boot | 06:01 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 06:02 |
| KermitJr | Hey, wiki-people.... ggradebook isn't being worked on, I see... check out Open Admin: http://richtech.ca/openadmin/ | 06:02 |
| geirix | hi | 06:02 |
| KermitJr | slax? | 06:02 |
| geirix | yeah....find it on distrowatch.com | 06:02 |
| geirix | it's quite an excellent livecd | 06:02 |
| KermitJr | I just meant that the ubuntu livecd is super slow compared to every other livecd I've tried | 06:02 |
| jsgotangco | its a small lightweight livecd based on slackware | 06:02 |
| jsgotangco | KermitJr, because a lot of things are loaded from the CD | 06:03 |
| KermitJr | And... | 06:03 |
| geirix | yes...ubuntu is a bit slow on the livecd - but why use ubuntu live - it's much better installed :-) | 06:03 |
| KermitJr | how is that diff from morphix or knoppix? | 06:03 |
| KermitJr | hehe... Not everyone I show linux too wants it installed for the demo... | 06:03 |
| geirix | everybody I show ubuntu on my ibm a20 thinkpad wants ubuntu on their computers right away | 06:05 |
| geirix | :-) | 06:05 |
| geirix | kinda nice feeling seeing people dump old bills os for ubuntu | 06:06 |
| KermitJr | Well, I'm interested inworking with edubuntu, but lack of wiki access is a downer | 06:07 |
| KermitJr | The LTSP aspect is what I REALLY like | 06:07 |
| geirix | have you tryed edu? | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | lack of wiki access? | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | just create a launchpad account | 06:08 |
| KermitJr | I did | 06:08 |
| KermitJr | it says on one tab that I'm logged in | 06:08 |
| KermitJr | on the other... wrong password | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | thats trange i was just editing... | 06:08 |
| KermitJr | I keep getting "Sorry, wrong password" and this is after two resets | 06:09 |
| geirix | what wiki system are they using? | 06:10 |
| KermitJr | launchpad or something | 06:10 |
| geirix | don't get them.....would use e107 with wiki addon instead | 06:10 |
| geirix | much faster | 06:10 |
| geirix | and just a single password | 06:11 |
| geirix | and if you forget it, you get it e-mailed right away | 06:11 |
| KermitJr | ok, figured it out... had to use my email address for the wiki login the first time | 06:15 |
| KermitJr | weird... that instead of wiki name | 06:15 |
| geirix | hehehe | 06:15 |
| geirix | happens | 06:15 |
| KermitJr | the gpg verification was a total pain | 06:15 |
| KermitJr | gnight all. I'll be back | 06:20 |
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| shik45 | anyone have screenshots | 06:35 |
| shik45 | come on guys | 06:39 |
| shik45 | Burgundavia: cyphase danjules highvoltage JaneW jsgotangco | 06:39 |
| shik45 | screenshots? | 06:39 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 06:47 |
| jsgotangco | shik45, its basically ubuntu with a different icon set, background and extra apps | 06:48 |
| shik45 | lol like wut | 06:48 |
| shik45 | no special apps made by ubuntu | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | kde edu apps, blender | 06:49 |
| shik45 | like child controls | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | it was deferred | 06:49 |
| shik45 | kde or gnome | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | its gnome by default | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | we can't promise everything | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | we currently have a stable base and we'll build upon it | 06:50 |
| shik45 | ur part of project? | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | i contribute yes | 06:53 |
| shik45 | cool | 06:53 |
| shik45 | as a student i use gimp a lot | 06:53 |
| shik45 | kshutdown | 06:53 |
| shik45 | as well | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | what does kshutdown do? | 06:54 |
| shik45 | shutdown timer and task closing timer | 06:54 |
| shik45 | and some other stuff | 06:54 |
| shik45 | it is great | 06:54 |
| shik45 | kde is better for student | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 06:55 |
| shik45 | with klipper kompose | 06:55 |
| shik45 | u guys have all edutainment packages? | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | ogra packaged the basics | 06:56 |
| shik45 | and abiword is better and openoffice.org editort | 06:56 |
| jsgotangco | because the focus at the moment is ltsp | 06:56 |
| shik45 | itsp? | 06:56 |
| jsgotangco | edubuntu is a network-oriented system | 06:57 |
| jsgotangco | although it can be installed as a stand alone system | 06:57 |
| shik45 | for schools | 06:57 |
| shik45 | i c | 06:57 |
| shik45 | u know any one that is gonna use it | 06:57 |
| shik45 | wisconsin is opensource | 06:57 |
| jsgotangco | we have testers yes | 06:57 |
| shik45 | talk to them | 06:57 |
| shik45 | thoose fucks use Linspire | 06:58 |
| shik45 | who tests? | 06:58 |
| jsgotangco | not sure where they are located | 06:58 |
| shik45 | k | 06:58 |
| jsgotangco | but we have it on the lists | 06:58 |
| shik45 | international support? | 06:58 |
| shik45 | thoose peeps are the easy ones to convert | 06:58 |
| jsgotangco | sure edubuntu is basically ubuntu with extended features | 06:58 |
| shik45 | poor and smart | 06:58 |
| shik45 | India baby | 06:58 |
| shik45 | where i am from | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | i see | 06:59 |
| shik45 | get kshutdown in there tho | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | too late | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | we're already in preview | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | maybe next release in april | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | you can just install it though | 06:59 |
| shik45 | for next release then | 06:59 |
| shik45 | it is great | 06:59 |
| shik45 | i think it KDE compatible 2 | 07:00 |
| shik45 | jsgotangco: would people care if i dropped in one next meeting | 07:02 |
| shik45 | not to contribute but listen | 07:02 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 07:02 |
| jsgotangco | its always open | 07:02 |
| shik45 | nice | 07:02 |
| shik45 | could u email me chatlog | 07:02 |
| shik45 | in case i have school | 07:02 |
| shik45 | u know with school and bball it is hard | 07:03 |
| shik45 | ? | 07:03 |
| jsgotangco | the log is always avaialble at people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione | 07:03 |
| shik45 | thanks | 07:03 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, building LTSP chroot on stage 2? im impressed =) | 07:06 |
| jsgotangco | s/stage 2/stage 1 | 07:07 |
| jsgotangco | shik45, i forgot to tellyou, edubuntu can be installed as standalone | 07:31 |
| shik45 | nice | 07:31 |
| shik45 | i am petitioning to get a linux box at school | 07:31 |
| shik45 | maybe an eduknoppix or edubuntu | 07:31 |
| jsgotangco | just type workstation at the cd boot prompt | 07:31 |
| shik45 | k | 07:32 |
| shik45 | thnx | 07:33 |
| shik45 | i am interested in getting an Ubuntu box | 07:33 |
| shik45 | r techies r noobs\ | 07:33 |
| shik45 | use microsuck server | 07:33 |
| shik45 | i wanna em to run Gentoo or Ubuntu | 07:33 |
| shik45 | or Slack | 07:33 |
| shik45 | Kanotix or buntu for desktops | 07:33 |
| shik45 | but they are stubborn | 07:34 |
| shik45 | lots of macs and windows boxes | 07:34 |
| shik45 | no LInux which is bull | 07:34 |
| shik45 | because last years valedivtorian used Debian | 07:34 |
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| JaneW | morning | 08:21 |
| highvoltage | morning | 08:30 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i uploaded my ct photos: http://jonathancarter.co.za/photies/sfdza2005 | 08:30 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: hello, I'll take a look.... | 08:31 |
| JaneW | nice pics | 08:32 |
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| JaneW | nice pics :) | 08:39 |
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| jsgotangco | agghhh i envy ZA SFD celebrations... | 08:47 |
| highvoltage | :) | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm why is that our workstation default doesn't have a wallpaper | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm it seems i like our workstation version compared to ubuntu default.... | 08:50 |
| highvoltage | i've installed edubuntu with another ip address than in EdubuntuTesting | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | should it work if i just chance it in /etc/network/interfaces? | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | esh, i'll just re-install. | 09:28 |
| jsgotangco | gaaah die tuxmath | 09:29 |
| jsgotangco | you make me show my weaknesss | 09:30 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: wow. thanks for the mention in the announce. i'm ecstatic! and i feel completely motivated :) | 09:49 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 10:00 |
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| jsgotangco | for some reason some of the apps have no sound... | 10:04 |
| jsgotangco | gcompris for example | 10:04 |
| jsgotangco | and tuxmath | 10:04 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: that was me :) | 10:11 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: ditto | 10:11 |
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| JaneW | ogra told me to put ppl like Matt and Mark in... I put the imporatnt ppl in ;) | 10:12 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: then thanks to you, JaneW of Edubuntu! | 10:12 |
| JaneW | ogra: ping - when you are around | 10:12 |
| JaneW | lol | 10:12 |
| jsgotangco | im important? | 10:13 |
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| JaneW | flint is a character... | 10:13 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: yep, documentation is a big deal... | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | have you seen the wiki? | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | i can do more work in the wiki than in docbook | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | just let me finish putting the cookbook stuff before i announce it to list for more volunteers | 10:15 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: cool, I haven't had a chance to read the deatil but yesterday it was looking much better and I saw the 'about' doc appear there ;) | 10:15 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: great, that will be awesome. | 10:15 |
| jsgotangco | its quite easy from now on | 10:15 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: did you troubleshooting guide get finished? | 10:15 |
| jsgotangco | i have a visible edubuntu workstation | 10:15 |
| JaneW | yippee | 10:15 |
| jsgotangco | even if i dont ltsp it, its workable | 10:15 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: so you don;t have to be 'diificult' anymore *duck* | 10:16 |
| JaneW | JOKE!!!!! | 10:16 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, better prepare for our release notes | 10:16 |
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| jsgotangco | there will be issues for sure out of the box | 10:16 |
| JaneW | nod | 10:16 |
| jsgotangco | but basically ubuntu issues are edubuntu issues | 10:16 |
| JaneW | yes, sadly | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | unfortunately we don't have time to call for translations | 10:17 |
| JaneW | but conversely ubuntu improvements are edubuntu improvements | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | so during UBZ if you get an edubuntu track, don't forget the translations | 10:17 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: no, we'll translate after the realse and for the next round... | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | yup | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | we'll feed them to the rosetta system as well | 10:18 |
| JaneW | we had community offers to help for French and Spenaish at least already... | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | im not surprised | 10:18 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: do you know how to do that? | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | they're just waiting for the pot | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 10:18 |
| JaneW | Spanish I meant | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | we fed the pot to rosetta | 10:18 |
| spacey | what kind of stuff need translation that is not already done for ubuntu? | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | ubuntu-doc and faq-guide are already in rosetta | 10:18 |
| jsgotangco | those docs will go into edubuntu for sure | 10:19 |
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| rejden | re | 10:19 |
| spacey | i installed edubuntu preview yesterday on future terminal server and the result was quite nice. really cute to say the least:) | 10:20 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 10:20 |
| jsgotangco | i love gartoon | 10:20 |
| jsgotangco | too bad we don't have all icons in gartoon | 10:20 |
| spacey | too bad that administrative icons still visible for non admin users | 10:21 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, what happened to the other wallpapers? | 10:21 |
| jsgotangco | spacey, maybe when we get an app like sabayon next time, we'll be able to ditch them | 10:21 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: yes | 10:22 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, sabayon is in right? | 10:22 |
| spacey | i already tested it | 10:23 |
| jsgotangco | spacey, i haven't tried it | 10:23 |
| jsgotangco | its not a feature atm | 10:23 |
| spacey | but you can't change places/system menu with it | 10:23 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, it is in ;) you should try. it actually works | 10:23 |
| spacey | but not possible to change the menu with that | 10:24 |
| spacey | it is possible to change it with smeg | 10:24 |
| spacey | but only the applications panel it seemed | 10:24 |
| jsgotangco | the problem on my side is that i couldn't make my system too personalized it makes writing hard | 10:24 |
| spacey | not the system menu | 10:24 |
| jsgotangco | if i had enough resources i'd just chroot | 10:25 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, for doc you mean? | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 10:25 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, just add an extra user | 10:25 |
| spacey | you can edit just that user in sabayon, same for the menu | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | well that's one thing | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | i can try that later | 10:25 |
| spacey | ;) | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | im just updating the edubuntu desktop atm | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | 2 ba talaga cpu mo? | 10:26 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 10:26 |
| jsgotangco | baka naman asa lang | 10:26 |
| spacey | we were gonna deploy ubuntu terminal server on a school in a while, but after i tried edubuntu yesterday, i guess it will be edubuntu :) it is a primary school after all | 10:26 |
| jsgotangco | oopss wrong channel | 10:26 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: I think there's no space for them :( | 10:26 |
| spacey | what language was that? :P | 10:27 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco, highvoltage see http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ for them all. New ones too... | 10:27 |
| JaneW | the edubuntu girl has 5 stars and is on the favorites list :) | 10:29 |
| jsgotangco | can i make my angst-ridden edubuntu wallpaper? =) | 10:30 |
| highvoltage | edubuntu girl is cool. | 10:30 |
| spacey | i really like the edubuntugirl wall paper | 10:30 |
| highvoltage | i think i'll call her little jane of edubuntu from now on :) | 10:31 |
| spacey | hehe | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | i like it too | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | Back to nature looks too ZA =P | 10:32 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm so multiverse now has acrobat as well | 10:35 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh ill probably use edubuntu in my presentation pc | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | in linuxworld | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 10:36 |
| JaneW | LOL | 10:38 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 10:38 |
| jsgotangco | its pretty stable | 10:38 |
| jsgotangco | it has bling | 10:38 |
| JaneW | Sebastein Loss: said we were welcome to use his work for edubuntu too... he is/was doing some edubunut stuff for us, but is a little busy... | 10:41 |
| JaneW | can anybody edit the logo on some of these for us? | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | what a Loss | 10:41 |
| JaneW | http://ubuntu.tux.com.au/gallery/albums.php | 10:41 |
| JaneW | heh | 10:41 |
| JaneW | they are very crisp, and will appeal tp kids... | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | ah yes the badger mock-ups | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | they remind me of ice age | 10:42 |
| JaneW | also - http://sloss.free.fr/CCPapers.html | 10:42 |
| JaneW | yes it is quite Ice Age-like | 10:42 |
| JaneW | I like http://sloss.free.fr/breezy/BB_nerd.png for edubuntu as well | 10:43 |
| jsgotangco | they look more like cd sleeves hmmm | 10:43 |
| JaneW | the gnome splash at the bottom of http://sloss.free.fr/CCPapers.html could make nice wall papers too... | 10:45 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: then you're probably looking in the CD Civers section, look in the Breezy gallery | 10:46 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm i think they look better as splash images | 10:46 |
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| spacey | http://sloss.free.fr/documents/ShavyBreezy.swf <- hehe | 10:50 |
| JaneW | we need a splash screen and icons etc uploaded to http://art.ubuntu.com/ | 10:51 |
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| JaneW | chuckle... | 10:52 |
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| ogra | JaneW, pong | 10:53 |
| JaneW | ogra: hello | 10:53 |
| jsgotangco | ogra! | 10:54 |
| jsgotangco | wtf "Add Applications" is pretty solid | 11:00 |
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| ogra | did you want it softer ? | 11:02 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 11:03 |
| jsgotangco | there's something odd | 11:03 |
| jsgotangco | the first thing a user would probably do is add all the apps he wants to install | 11:03 |
| ogra | you mean it shoudnt be there ? | 11:04 |
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| jsgotangco | im trying to reproduce something... | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | but everything is smooth at the moment | 11:07 |
| ogra | fine... | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | you seem upset... | 11:08 |
| ogra | we have an odd bug about the education menu and all other KDE apps disappearing from themenu unintentionally... keep an eye on that | 11:08 |
| ogra | nope, im not upset at all :) | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, what happened to the sound of the other apps? | 11:09 |
| jsgotangco | i seem to need to install another sound device for them? | 11:09 |
| ogra | which other apps ? | 11:09 |
| jsgotangco | gcompris, tuxmath, tuxtyping | 11:09 |
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| ogra | they should work... gcompris is mising the non english sounds on the cd, you nedd to install them additionally... its a installer regression that needs to be solved, they should get installed with the langpacks | 11:11 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, alsa mixer should work right? | 11:21 |
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| ogra | jsgotangco, depends, i think it wont if the user isnt in the audio group | 11:21 |
| jsgotangco | sudo user? =) hmmm something is missing perhaps | 11:24 |
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| jsgotangco | brb | 11:49 |
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| rehdon | Hi all | 11:58 |
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| JaneW | ogra: ping | 01:14 |
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| JaneW | what's happened to ogra...? | 01:30 |
| ogra | i'm here, sorry, i was in the other room for a while | 01:30 |
| JaneW | ok. | 01:31 |
| JaneW | ogra: just need to know if you;ve submitted your eval forms for your 2 Google guys yet... | 01:31 |
| JaneW | they need to be in. | 01:31 |
| ogra | ouch... i missed it through all the preview trouble... is it to late already ? | 01:32 |
| JaneW | ogra: no but must be done asap | 01:40 |
| ogra | oki.... | 01:40 |
| ogra | sorry... | 01:40 |
| JaneW | ogra: also did Vedran do anything useful wrt Lightweight Desktop in the end? | 01:40 |
| JaneW | must I send you mail again re Google evals? | 01:41 |
| ogra | he submitted a applist from his testing... | 01:41 |
| ogra | nope, i should have everything | 01:41 |
| JaneW | http://code.google.com/grants/survey-m.html | 01:42 |
| JaneW | ogra: I have someone wanting to work on Lightweight desktop | 01:43 |
| JaneW | can I forward mail to you for evaluation/comment? | 01:43 |
| ogra | yup | 01:43 |
| JaneW | ta | 01:44 |
| ogra | hrm... | 01:53 |
| ogra | he doesnt get what schooltool is it seems | 01:53 |
| ogra | JaneW, all his stuff looks to me liek a commercial to promote his school management tool... he seems not to get that this isnt our target at all currently | 01:54 |
| ogra | JaneW, and he talks about "pages" there is only the schooltool flaming page where he says that schooltool isnt sufficient to manage a whole school... | 01:56 |
| ogra | (which is true and which nobody opposes) | 01:58 |
| ogra | i really dont know what to tell him ... | 01:59 |
| JaneW | ogra: next e-mail... | 01:59 |
| ogra | yup | 01:59 |
| JaneW | ogra: re dominic I don;t think we need to address that right now... | 02:00 |
| ogra | nope | 02:00 |
| JaneW | other stuff to focus on - the release for instance right now ;) | 02:00 |
| ogra | heh, waht do you think i'm doig *g* | 02:00 |
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| JaneW | 1 month today... till release. | 02:15 |
| ogra | yup | 02:15 |
| magnon | I wonder how canada is | 02:21 |
| ogra | cod ? | 02:21 |
| ogra | cold even | 02:21 |
| magnon | Norway is cold already, I can handle that | 02:22 |
| magnon | This election mostly ass-drove my business :P | 02:22 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:jane_] : The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | First official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Sept 14 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | Preview Release: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Installation help http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| JaneW | ogra: can you let me know when your Google eval forms are in, I need to send a notification to them. | 03:18 |
| JaneW | thanks | 03:18 |
| spacey | JaneW, lots of work to do on edubuntu btw? or not known until after UBZ? | 03:23 |
| JaneW | spacey: yes we have lots to do, but our main problem is resource limitations, although we draw on all the ubuntu developmeent we only have 1 dedicated developer, | 03:25 |
| JaneW | aqnd even then he has loads of other responsibilites | 03:25 |
| spacey | JaneW, for the school assignment i might be able to assist in this (what we discussed on ubuntu-devel)? | 03:27 |
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| JaneW | spacey: yes possibly... | 03:27 |
| spacey | trying to figure out if its possible to attend on UBZ as well now. | 03:27 |
| JaneW | spacey: we just need to make sure you don't need to much hand holding from ogra, cos like I said he's quite over extended already... | 03:27 |
| spacey | at least when i get the school assignment i would really like to go there | 03:28 |
| JaneW | spacey: where are you based? | 03:28 |
| spacey | the netherlands | 03:28 |
| spacey | JaneW, would depend on nature of work i guess, but i can also get some guidance from other people i guess (from ubuntu-nl for example). | 03:29 |
| spacey | at least one MOTU there | 03:29 |
| ogra | spacey, Treenaks is a good help ;) | 03:30 |
| spacey | ogra, yeah i know :) | 03:30 |
| spacey | JaneW, as soon as i know more i will let you know. at least i'm happy that there are possibilities | 03:32 |
| ogra | JaneW, seb128 and \sh deserve a huge goldstar for tracking the worst edubuntu bug we have (disappearing education menu) | 03:34 |
| JaneW | ogra: sounds bad! | 03:41 |
| ogra | JaneW, nope | 03:41 |
| ogra | they seem to solve it... it affects all KDE menu entrys in the gnome menu... but it was only discovered through edubuntu... | 03:42 |
| ogra | so its quite cool they track and solve it... since this is a very hard one | 03:43 |
| JaneW | wow | 03:45 |
| ogra | yup | 03:45 |
| ogra | its not triggered by anything, not reproducable but the menu just disappears magically once in a while nothing to track easily.... | 03:46 |
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| JaneW | weird | 04:04 |
| spacey | if i would help on edubuntu what kind of work would be suitable? | 04:17 |
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| jsgotangco | heya | 04:30 |
| mpt | spacey: Have you seen http://edubuntu.org/#head-7f43d70c22cfd4ca7a9e43611783561f426f59c1 ? | 04:33 |
| spacey | mpt, you mean "how can i help" part? | 04:34 |
| mpt | yes | 04:35 |
| spacey | mpt, that doesn't help | 04:51 |
| spacey | but thanks | 04:51 |
| mpt | spacey: Then your next step is pestering ogra until he gives you something to do | 05:01 |
| mpt | What sort of things are you good at? | 05:01 |
| spacey | mpt, i think i will have to wait for UBZ | 05:02 |
| spacey | won't start before november anyway | 05:02 |
| jsgotangco | ?? | 05:04 |
| mpt | spacey: You mean you won't have time to start helping before UBZ? | 05:05 |
| jsgotangco | spacey: if you want to help out, you can start by contributing to the Cookbook =) | 05:05 |
| spacey | mpt, yeah | 05:07 |
| spacey | correct | 05:07 |
| mpt | spacey: What are you good at? Programming? QA? Writing? Graphic design? | 05:09 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm how can one make a blocked quote in moin | 05:09 |
| spacey | mpt, i was thinking more about packagestuff and bug solving | 05:10 |
| mpt | ogra, are the Edubuntu-specific packages registered in Launchpad? | 05:10 |
| spacey | but i don't think its nessecary to specify it at this point. i already found a way to describe it | 05:11 |
| spacey | because i will do other stuff as well. | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | spacey: solving ubuntu bugs helps edubuntu | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | as well as packaging | 05:11 |
| spacey | yes yes, i will see what happens, i'm trying to get free from school to go to UBZ | 05:12 |
| spacey | 25% chance | 05:12 |
| spacey | hehe | 05:12 |
| jsgotangco | ah | 05:12 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, it will be for school anyway | 05:12 |
| spacey | but then i can work few months almost fulltime on ubuntu so ;) | 05:13 |
| jsgotangco | if its just a short trip, take time, its worth it | 05:13 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 05:13 |
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| jsgotangco | mpt: how is UbuntuHelp going? | 05:16 |
| mpt | jsgotangco: ok -- the hardest parts are where there is *no* existing documentation, whatever the quality | 05:17 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm...i've been dumping some stuff in gnome itself for 2.12 | 05:19 |
| jsgotangco | it'll probably come its way in the next version | 05:20 |
| jsgotangco | so hopefully our next gnome won't have a 2.6 user doc | 05:20 |
| ogra | mpt, i dont think so (i havent have time to think about it yet, to be honest) | 05:24 |
| ogra | s/have/had/ | 05:24 |
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| jsgotangco | gahh wiki work can be a bore sometimes | 05:36 |
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| Mewm | hey | 10:29 |
| Mewm | Anyone know when the new Ubuntu will be released? | 10:29 |
| ogra | JaneW, its unlikely that we can support SWM in main, its 100% webmin based, which suffers from security and upgradeability issues ... (it similar to mediawiki), but i'll happily package it for universe breezy+1... | 10:48 |
| JaneW | ogra: hi, on phone... | 11:01 |
| ogra | yup, recognized, no need to answer :) | 11:01 |
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| mhiggins | hi everyone this is my first time to use irc so if i do it worng sorry. looking at the edubuntu project & wondering if it could be run over a wan / web conection rather than lan if the clients had enough bandwith, most of the clients (80%) & the server have 100mbps web connections with the balance (20%) on 30-50 mbps connections | 11:08 |
| ogra | mhiggins, i guess you'll have a problem booting over the internet | 11:11 |
| mhiggins | can't i point the boot rom to a fixed ip instead of dhcp? | 11:12 |
| ogra | hmm, try it, thats nothing that has been tested with edubuntu | 11:14 |
| ogra | and if it works will very much depend on the interconnect routing... you dont have guaranteed speeds in the internet... | 11:16 |
| ogra | so these may vary ... | 11:16 |
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| mhiggins | yes this is my concern, the guys with fiber should be ok but the guys on vdsl are slower ie ping the server locally .4ms ping it over vdsl & its up to 6~7ms wondering what rendering will be like with this kind of speed drop | 11:17 |
| ogra | to test if this works at all, you could just open ssh on a server, and run on the client "ssh -X user@serverip gnome-session" | 11:17 |
| ogra | indeed you need a running xserver on the client for that | 11:19 |
| mhiggins | very smart simple test, will try it out later today | 11:19 |
| mhiggins | can you have a safe nfs web connection? | 11:19 |
| ogra | hmm, no idea if you can tunnel that somehow... | 11:20 |
| mhiggins | the other alternative was to try & do it with freenx server but this would mean you have client software, hardisks that are remote etc to support | 11:23 |
| mhiggins | ogra thanks for your input, have to go to work now will try it out tonight | 11:33 |
| ogra | youre welcome :) tell me if it works :) | 11:33 |
| JaneW | ogra: ping | 11:35 |
| ogra | JaneW, pong | 11:35 |
| JaneW | do you have a bug number for that menu bug? | 11:35 |
| mhiggins | damb if i can get it to work i will tell the world, anyway it opens up a lot of remote learning solutions | 11:35 |
| ogra | JaneW, 14967 | 11:35 |
| ogra | JaneW, worst bug ever | 11:35 |
| ogra | JaneW, i'll try to find a inotify specialist tomorrow | 11:36 |
| JaneW | mdz is looking at it ;) | 11:37 |
| ogra | yup, i saw it... | 11:37 |
| ogra | he already added some duplicates... | 11:38 |
| ogra | he sadly didnt answer my question before... i have a fixed dhcp server package here, but dont wantto upload it with his approval | 11:39 |
| ogra | err s/with/without | 11:39 |
| JaneW | ogra: just got off the phone with him... | 11:41 |
| JaneW | so you can grab him now... | 11:41 |
| JaneW | was on the phone for over an hour... | 11:41 |
| ogra | i saw the start in the other channel | 11:43 |
| JaneW | heh | 11:46 |
| JaneW | ogra: cockroach and all ;) | 11:46 |
| ogra | yes :) | 11:46 |
| ogra | yippie, fix approved :) | 11:47 |
| JaneW | ogra: last ping re the Google evl forms - in yet? | 11:47 |
| ogra | one bug less | 11:47 |
| JaneW | s/evl/eval | 11:47 |
| JaneW | ogra: yay, well done | 11:47 |
| ogra | JaneW, before i go to sleep today, promised | 11:47 |
| JaneW | ogra: it's not too hard to fill in - promise | 11:48 |
| ogra | heh :) | 11:48 |
| JaneW | plus you'll get a special limited edition t-shirt if you do | 11:48 |
| JaneW | just what all IT ppl need - more T-shirts.... | 11:48 |
| JaneW | some comic relief for you...http://windward.nodalpoint.net/doc/media/liikenne.swf (needs sound) | 11:49 |
| ogra | needs flash ... no flash for me on amd64 | 11:49 |
| JaneW | runs for me... I don't have flash... | 11:50 |
| JaneW | do I? | 11:50 |
| JaneW | I get 'install missing plugin' notices all the time... | 11:50 |
| ogra | obviously :) its a swf (shockwave flash) file | 11:50 |
| ogra | thats more likely java thats missing | 11:51 |
| JaneW | oic d'oh | 11:52 |
| JaneW | although a flash page wouldn't load yesterday... | 11:52 |
| JaneW | whatever | 11:52 |
| JaneW | cool, new edubuntu wall papers - I think Sebastein Loss u/led them.... | 11:53 |
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| JaneW | http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ | 11:54 |
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| JaneW | ypw: confussed? | 11:55 |
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