=== JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-163-219.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] >.> I seem to have killed #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === sivang_ [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === shik45 [n=shikhar@c-67-188-245-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:23] anyone got screenshots [04:23] i wanna see what it looks like [04:23] i use Ubuntu [04:23] with KDE [04:23] not kubuntu [04:23] anyone have screenshots? [04:37] hi [04:37] its basically the same desktop [04:37] except that it'll have a different icon set and backgrounds === TimM [n=none@b-6c.lcom.net] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-163-219.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === geirix [n=geirix@81.15.0.130] has joined #edubuntu [05:57] hi all === KermitJr [n=Kermit_J@ip70-177-182-210.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:58] Hello [05:58] so everybody excited about edubuntu? [05:59] What's it take to get edit priviledges on wiki? [05:59] I think i'm excited... its almost perfect [06:00] anyone have wiki access? I ahve a recommendation [06:00] yeah...i'm actually gona try to get the school i'm teaching in to move from m$ win xp and active directory to edubuntu [06:00] I run a non-profit that has been making a custom morphix livecd [06:00] and setting up ltsp [06:00] ubuntu is excellent, but to be able to teach kids linux, that is more then great [06:00] but I've been mainly kde [06:00] Having to mess a bit for the gnome part [06:00] seems smooth though [06:00] but the LiveCD stinks... SSSLLLLOOOOWWWWW [06:01] well, gnome is still ahead in my books :-) [06:01] And you should be able to install from livecd... I know that was an original goal of Oct release, but not gonna happen now [06:01] live cd's , hmmm... slax seems to have quick boot [06:02] hi [06:02] Hey, wiki-people.... ggradebook isn't being worked on, I see... check out Open Admin: http://richtech.ca/openadmin/ [06:02] hi [06:02] slax? [06:02] yeah....find it on distrowatch.com [06:02] it's quite an excellent livecd [06:02] I just meant that the ubuntu livecd is super slow compared to every other livecd I've tried [06:02] its a small lightweight livecd based on slackware [06:03] KermitJr, because a lot of things are loaded from the CD [06:03] And... [06:03] yes...ubuntu is a bit slow on the livecd - but why use ubuntu live - it's much better installed :-) [06:03] how is that diff from morphix or knoppix? [06:03] hehe... Not everyone I show linux too wants it installed for the demo... [06:05] everybody I show ubuntu on my ibm a20 thinkpad wants ubuntu on their computers right away [06:05] :-) [06:06] kinda nice feeling seeing people dump old bills os for ubuntu [06:07] Well, I'm interested inworking with edubuntu, but lack of wiki access is a downer [06:07] The LTSP aspect is what I REALLY like [06:08] have you tryed edu? [06:08] lack of wiki access? [06:08] just create a launchpad account [06:08] I did [06:08] it says on one tab that I'm logged in [06:08] on the other... wrong password [06:08] thats trange i was just editing... [06:09] I keep getting "Sorry, wrong password" and this is after two resets [06:10] what wiki system are they using? [06:10] launchpad or something [06:10] don't get them.....would use e107 with wiki addon instead [06:10] much faster [06:11] and just a single password [06:11] and if you forget it, you get it e-mailed right away [06:15] ok, figured it out... had to use my email address for the wiki login the first time [06:15] weird... that instead of wiki name [06:15] hehehe [06:15] happens [06:15] the gpg verification was a total pain [06:20] gnight all. I'll be back === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [06:35] anyone have screenshots [06:39] come on guys [06:39] Burgundavia: cyphase danjules highvoltage JaneW jsgotangco [06:39] screenshots? [06:47] hi [06:48] shik45, its basically ubuntu with a different icon set, background and extra apps [06:48] lol like wut [06:49] no special apps made by ubuntu [06:49] kde edu apps, blender [06:49] like child controls [06:49] it was deferred [06:49] kde or gnome [06:49] its gnome by default [06:49] we can't promise everything [06:50] we currently have a stable base and we'll build upon it [06:53] ur part of project? [06:53] i contribute yes [06:53] cool [06:53] as a student i use gimp a lot [06:53] kshutdown [06:53] as well [06:54] what does kshutdown do? [06:54] shutdown timer and task closing timer [06:54] and some other stuff [06:54] it is great [06:55] kde is better for student [06:55] ahhh [06:55] with klipper kompose [06:55] u guys have all edutainment packages? [06:56] ogra packaged the basics [06:56] and abiword is better and openoffice.org editort [06:56] because the focus at the moment is ltsp [06:56] itsp? [06:57] edubuntu is a network-oriented system [06:57] although it can be installed as a stand alone system [06:57] for schools [06:57] i c [06:57] u know any one that is gonna use it [06:57] wisconsin is opensource [06:57] we have testers yes [06:57] talk to them [06:58] thoose fucks use Linspire [06:58] who tests? [06:58] not sure where they are located [06:58] k [06:58] but we have it on the lists [06:58] international support? [06:58] thoose peeps are the easy ones to convert [06:58] sure edubuntu is basically ubuntu with extended features [06:58] poor and smart [06:58] India baby [06:59] where i am from [06:59] i see [06:59] get kshutdown in there tho [06:59] too late [06:59] we're already in preview [06:59] maybe next release in april [06:59] you can just install it though [06:59] for next release then [06:59] it is great [07:00] i think it KDE compatible 2 [07:02] jsgotangco: would people care if i dropped in one next meeting [07:02] not to contribute but listen [07:02] sure [07:02] its always open [07:02] nice [07:02] could u email me chatlog [07:02] in case i have school [07:03] u know with school and bball it is hard [07:03] ? [07:03] the log is always avaialble at people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione [07:03] thanks [07:06] ogra, building LTSP chroot on stage 2? im impressed =) [07:07] s/stage 2/stage 1 [07:31] shik45, i forgot to tellyou, edubuntu can be installed as standalone [07:31] nice [07:31] i am petitioning to get a linux box at school [07:31] maybe an eduknoppix or edubuntu [07:31] just type workstation at the cd boot prompt [07:32] k [07:33] thnx [07:33] i am interested in getting an Ubuntu box [07:33] r techies r noobs\ [07:33] use microsuck server [07:33] i wanna em to run Gentoo or Ubuntu [07:33] or Slack [07:33] Kanotix or buntu for desktops [07:34] but they are stubborn [07:34] lots of macs and windows boxes [07:34] no LInux which is bull [07:34] because last years valedivtorian used Debian === shik45 [n=shikhar@c-67-188-245-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-193.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] morning [08:30] morning [08:30] JaneW: i uploaded my ct photos: http://jonathancarter.co.za/photies/sfdza2005 [08:31] highvoltage: hello, I'll take a look.... [08:32] nice pics === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [08:39] nice pics :) === jsgotangco peeks [08:47] agghhh i envy ZA SFD celebrations... [08:47] :) [08:48] hrmmm why is that our workstation default doesn't have a wallpaper [08:50] hmmm it seems i like our workstation version compared to ubuntu default.... [09:27] i've installed edubuntu with another ip address than in EdubuntuTesting [09:27] should it work if i just chance it in /etc/network/interfaces? [09:28] esh, i'll just re-install. [09:29] gaaah die tuxmath [09:30] you make me show my weaknesss === Log-OS [n=Log-OS@194.84.5.222] has joined #edubuntu [09:49] ogra: wow. thanks for the mention in the announce. i'm ecstatic! and i feel completely motivated :) [10:00] yeah === jbeacham [n=jbeacham@adsl-69-214-242-134.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:04] for some reason some of the apps have no sound... [10:04] gcompris for example [10:04] and tuxmath === jbeacham [n=jbeacham@adsl-69-214-242-134.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:11] highvoltage: that was me :) [10:11] jsgotangco: ditto === Log-OS [n=Log-OS@194.84.5.222] has left #edubuntu [] [10:12] ogra told me to put ppl like Matt and Mark in... I put the imporatnt ppl in ;) [10:12] JaneW: then thanks to you, JaneW of Edubuntu! [10:12] ogra: ping - when you are around [10:12] lol [10:13] im important? === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.196.115] has joined #edubuntu [10:13] flint is a character... [10:13] jsgotangco: yep, documentation is a big deal... [10:13] have you seen the wiki? [10:13] i can do more work in the wiki than in docbook [10:15] just let me finish putting the cookbook stuff before i announce it to list for more volunteers [10:15] jsgotangco: cool, I haven't had a chance to read the deatil but yesterday it was looking much better and I saw the 'about' doc appear there ;) [10:15] jsgotangco: great, that will be awesome. [10:15] its quite easy from now on [10:15] highvoltage: did you troubleshooting guide get finished? [10:15] i have a visible edubuntu workstation [10:15] yippee [10:15] even if i dont ltsp it, its workable [10:16] jsgotangco: so you don;t have to be 'diificult' anymore *duck* [10:16] JOKE!!!!! [10:16] JaneW, better prepare for our release notes === JaneW smiles at jsgotangco ;) [10:16] there will be issues for sure out of the box [10:16] nod [10:16] but basically ubuntu issues are edubuntu issues [10:17] yes, sadly [10:17] unfortunately we don't have time to call for translations [10:17] but conversely ubuntu improvements are edubuntu improvements [10:17] so during UBZ if you get an edubuntu track, don't forget the translations [10:17] jsgotangco: no, we'll translate after the realse and for the next round... [10:18] yup [10:18] we'll feed them to the rosetta system as well [10:18] we had community offers to help for French and Spenaish at least already... [10:18] im not surprised [10:18] jsgotangco: do you know how to do that? [10:18] they're just waiting for the pot [10:18] sure [10:18] Spanish I meant [10:18] we fed the pot to rosetta [10:18] what kind of stuff need translation that is not already done for ubuntu? [10:18] ubuntu-doc and faq-guide are already in rosetta [10:19] those docs will go into edubuntu for sure === rejden [n=rejden@147.175.55.175] has joined #edubuntu [10:19] re [10:20] i installed edubuntu preview yesterday on future terminal server and the result was quite nice. really cute to say the least:) [10:20] sure [10:20] i love gartoon [10:20] too bad we don't have all icons in gartoon [10:21] too bad that administrative icons still visible for non admin users [10:21] JaneW, what happened to the other wallpapers? [10:21] spacey, maybe when we get an app like sabayon next time, we'll be able to ditch them [10:22] JaneW: yes [10:22] jsgotangco, sabayon is in right? [10:23] i already tested it [10:23] spacey, i haven't tried it [10:23] its not a feature atm [10:23] but you can't change places/system menu with it [10:23] jsgotangco, it is in ;) you should try. it actually works [10:24] but not possible to change the menu with that [10:24] it is possible to change it with smeg [10:24] but only the applications panel it seemed [10:24] the problem on my side is that i couldn't make my system too personalized it makes writing hard [10:24] not the system menu [10:25] if i had enough resources i'd just chroot [10:25] jsgotangco, for doc you mean? [10:25] yes [10:25] jsgotangco, just add an extra user [10:25] you can edit just that user in sabayon, same for the menu [10:25] well that's one thing [10:25] i can try that later [10:25] ;) [10:25] im just updating the edubuntu desktop atm [10:26] 2 ba talaga cpu mo? [10:26] heh [10:26] baka naman asa lang [10:26] we were gonna deploy ubuntu terminal server on a school in a while, but after i tried edubuntu yesterday, i guess it will be edubuntu :) it is a primary school after all [10:26] oopss wrong channel [10:26] jsgotangco: I think there's no space for them :( [10:27] what language was that? :P [10:27] jsgotangco, highvoltage see http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ for them all. New ones too... [10:29] the edubuntu girl has 5 stars and is on the favorites list :) [10:30] can i make my angst-ridden edubuntu wallpaper? =) [10:30] edubuntu girl is cool. [10:30] i really like the edubuntugirl wall paper [10:31] i think i'll call her little jane of edubuntu from now on :) [10:31] hehe [10:31] i like it too [10:32] Back to nature looks too ZA =P [10:35] hrmmm so multiverse now has acrobat as well [10:36] ahhh ill probably use edubuntu in my presentation pc [10:36] in linuxworld [10:36] hehe [10:38] LOL [10:38] sure [10:38] its pretty stable [10:38] it has bling [10:41] Sebastein Loss: said we were welcome to use his work for edubuntu too... he is/was doing some edubunut stuff for us, but is a little busy... [10:41] can anybody edit the logo on some of these for us? [10:41] what a Loss [10:41] http://ubuntu.tux.com.au/gallery/albums.php [10:41] heh [10:42] they are very crisp, and will appeal tp kids... [10:42] ah yes the badger mock-ups [10:42] they remind me of ice age [10:42] also - http://sloss.free.fr/CCPapers.html [10:42] yes it is quite Ice Age-like [10:43] I like http://sloss.free.fr/breezy/BB_nerd.png for edubuntu as well [10:43] they look more like cd sleeves hmmm [10:45] the gnome splash at the bottom of http://sloss.free.fr/CCPapers.html could make nice wall papers too... [10:46] jsgotangco: then you're probably looking in the CD Civers section, look in the Breezy gallery [10:46] hrmmm i think they look better as splash images === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] http://sloss.free.fr/documents/ShavyBreezy.swf <- hehe [10:51] we need a splash screen and icons etc uploaded to http://art.ubuntu.com/ === sivang_ is now known as sivang [10:52] chuckle... === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] JaneW, pong [10:53] ogra: hello [10:54] ogra! [11:00] wtf "Add Applications" is pretty solid === jsgotangco just had the time to play around the desktop [11:02] did you want it softer ? [11:03] hmm [11:03] there's something odd [11:03] the first thing a user would probably do is add all the apps he wants to install [11:04] you mean it shoudnt be there ? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] im trying to reproduce something... [11:07] but everything is smooth at the moment [11:08] fine... [11:08] you seem upset... [11:08] we have an odd bug about the education menu and all other KDE apps disappearing from themenu unintentionally... keep an eye on that [11:08] nope, im not upset at all :) [11:09] ogra, what happened to the sound of the other apps? [11:09] i seem to need to install another sound device for them? [11:09] which other apps ? [11:09] gcompris, tuxmath, tuxtyping === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #edubuntu [11:11] they should work... gcompris is mising the non english sounds on the cd, you nedd to install them additionally... its a installer regression that needs to be solved, they should get installed with the langpacks [11:21] ogra, alsa mixer should work right? === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu [11:21] jsgotangco, depends, i think it wont if the user isnt in the audio group [11:24] sudo user? =) hmmm something is missing perhaps === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone is now known as pere [11:49] brb === guim [n=glederer@193.190.183.237] has joined #edubuntu === rehdon [n=Standard@d83-176-116-156.cust.tele2.it] has joined #edubuntu [11:58] Hi all === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [01:14] ogra: ping === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [01:30] what's happened to ogra...? [01:30] i'm here, sorry, i was in the other room for a while [01:31] ok. [01:31] ogra: just need to know if you;ve submitted your eval forms for your 2 Google guys yet... [01:31] they need to be in. [01:32] ouch... i missed it through all the preview trouble... is it to late already ? [01:40] ogra: no but must be done asap [01:40] oki.... [01:40] sorry... [01:40] ogra: also did Vedran do anything useful wrt Lightweight Desktop in the end? [01:41] must I send you mail again re Google evals? [01:41] he submitted a applist from his testing... [01:41] nope, i should have everything [01:42] http://code.google.com/grants/survey-m.html [01:43] ogra: I have someone wanting to work on Lightweight desktop [01:43] can I forward mail to you for evaluation/comment? [01:43] yup [01:44] ta [01:53] hrm... [01:53] he doesnt get what schooltool is it seems [01:54] JaneW, all his stuff looks to me liek a commercial to promote his school management tool... he seems not to get that this isnt our target at all currently [01:56] JaneW, and he talks about "pages" there is only the schooltool flaming page where he says that schooltool isnt sufficient to manage a whole school... [01:58] (which is true and which nobody opposes) [01:59] i really dont know what to tell him ... [01:59] ogra: next e-mail... [01:59] yup [02:00] ogra: re dominic I don;t think we need to address that right now... [02:00] nope [02:00] other stuff to focus on - the release for instance right now ;) [02:00] heh, waht do you think i'm doig *g* === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [02:15] 1 month today... till release. [02:15] yup [02:21] I wonder how canada is [02:21] cod ? [02:21] cold even [02:22] Norway is cold already, I can handle that [02:22] This election mostly ass-drove my business :P === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-153-31.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:jane_] : The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | First official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Sept 14 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | Preview Release: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Installation help http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [03:18] ogra: can you let me know when your Google eval forms are in, I need to send a notification to them. [03:18] thanks [03:23] JaneW, lots of work to do on edubuntu btw? or not known until after UBZ? [03:25] spacey: yes we have lots to do, but our main problem is resource limitations, although we draw on all the ubuntu developmeent we only have 1 dedicated developer, [03:25] aqnd even then he has loads of other responsibilites [03:27] JaneW, for the school assignment i might be able to assist in this (what we discussed on ubuntu-devel)? === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DF17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:27] spacey: yes possibly... [03:27] trying to figure out if its possible to attend on UBZ as well now. [03:27] spacey: we just need to make sure you don't need to much hand holding from ogra, cos like I said he's quite over extended already... [03:28] at least when i get the school assignment i would really like to go there [03:28] spacey: where are you based? [03:28] the netherlands [03:29] JaneW, would depend on nature of work i guess, but i can also get some guidance from other people i guess (from ubuntu-nl for example). [03:29] at least one MOTU there [03:30] spacey, Treenaks is a good help ;) [03:30] ogra, yeah i know :) [03:32] JaneW, as soon as i know more i will let you know. at least i'm happy that there are possibilities [03:34] JaneW, seb128 and \sh deserve a huge goldstar for tracking the worst edubuntu bug we have (disappearing education menu) [03:41] ogra: sounds bad! [03:41] JaneW, nope [03:42] they seem to solve it... it affects all KDE menu entrys in the gnome menu... but it was only discovered through edubuntu... [03:43] so its quite cool they track and solve it... since this is a very hard one [03:45] wow [03:45] yup [03:46] its not triggered by anything, not reproducable but the menu just disappears magically once in a while nothing to track easily.... === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] weird [04:17] if i would help on edubuntu what kind of work would be suitable? === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === Gadi [n=romm@h-66-166-99-234.nycmny83.covad.net] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has left #edubuntu [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info1-226.info.com.ph] has joined #edubuntu [04:30] heya [04:33] spacey: Have you seen http://edubuntu.org/#head-7f43d70c22cfd4ca7a9e43611783561f426f59c1 ? [04:34] mpt, you mean "how can i help" part? [04:35] yes [04:51] mpt, that doesn't help [04:51] but thanks [05:01] spacey: Then your next step is pestering ogra until he gives you something to do [05:01] What sort of things are you good at? [05:02] mpt, i think i will have to wait for UBZ [05:02] won't start before november anyway [05:04] ?? [05:05] spacey: You mean you won't have time to start helping before UBZ? [05:05] spacey: if you want to help out, you can start by contributing to the Cookbook =) [05:07] mpt, yeah [05:07] correct [05:09] spacey: What are you good at? Programming? QA? Writing? Graphic design? [05:09] hrmmm how can one make a blocked quote in moin [05:10] mpt, i was thinking more about packagestuff and bug solving [05:10] ogra, are the Edubuntu-specific packages registered in Launchpad? [05:11] but i don't think its nessecary to specify it at this point. i already found a way to describe it [05:11] because i will do other stuff as well. [05:11]