[12:05] doko: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/anastacia.txt updated with zope [12:05] doko: the xpdf deps need to go [12:06] Riddell: there are two deps of libkiten1 in http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/anastacia.txt which have no main inclusion reports === bskahan [n=bskahan@dsl254-074-249.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] Riddell: until they are reviewed and promoted, it is uninstallable [12:07] mdz, they shouldnt even be in there anymore [12:07] oh, I confused kiten with krita I think [12:07] mdz, they come from kdeedu... [12:07] ogra: well, they are there [12:07] apt-cache show libkiten1 [12:08] hrm... i'll look ... i changed the edubuntu seeds yesterday to let them disappear there [12:08] they are not seed entries [12:08] they are dependencies [12:09] yup, i removed the binary deps that pulled them in [12:09] ogra: did you update the meta-package? [12:09] Riddell, its not in the meta package... [12:10] its only in supported... elmo wanted me to clear the non used kdeedu apps from anastacia... since all were approved i put them into supported, but missed that one pulls libkiten in... === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-187.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-163-219.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:17] mdz, so how do i make kiten and friends go away ? i dont need them, they are in none of my seeds for edubuntu [12:17] ogra: read the germinate output and see what pulls it in [12:17] ok [12:18] oh, how silly... i dont have kiten in supported, but kdeedu... hmpf... [12:20] easier to fix than my problem, I have two physical kittens in my way [12:22] Kamion: groff is the only thing which uses libxp in main === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-182.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132139198.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] night all! [12:45] 'night israel! [12:45] 'morning sydney! [12:45] morning jdub :-) [12:47] morning jdub === jdub is hoping that the dell delivery guy turns up VERY EARLY this morning === jonah [n=jonah@141.140.153.127] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] jdub: these panels are amazing [12:48] shush! [12:48] jdub: you will have to start jdub|tv up for us [12:48] to see you dance [12:48] that's cruel and unusual treatment! === avanspronsen [n=andrewv@London-HSE-ppp3543971.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jcape [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] jdub: Somehow I can imagine you yelling "GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!" [01:04] i would record for you [01:04] but my voice is all croaky and gross [01:04] pipka gave me a cold! [01:16] ogra: ha ha conservative [01:16] :) === stub [n=stub@203.214.4.72] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] mdz: I blame imake or something; it's not used explicitly as far as I can see [01:19] I just upgraded to breezy, and had no Gnome sound. Turned out I had polypaudio installed rather than esound. Was this my fault from sometime in the past or is this an upgrade bug that needs reporting? [01:21] stub: that was a release-notes-only-able upgrade fix [01:21] There are release notes? ;) [01:27] stub: with every milestone CD, yes [01:27] stub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BreezyReleaseNotes =) [01:27] Ahh... I just upgraded with synaptic, and google hasn't found the breezy release notes yet ;) === harrytuttle [n=harrytut@host216-150.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:34] stub: it was a hoary preview -> final thing === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [i=shackan@ppp-160-63.26-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbreit [n=mo@p54875AA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] yes, experienced 15283 when I was at my parents in Nottingham last week. [01:49] sladen, be happy you didnt experience 15284 *g* === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] mdz: ok, I have a patch here which avoids the libXp linkage [01:54] Kamion: woo [01:54] mdz: will I be able to sync past groff 1.18.1.1-9? the multibyte fixes are tasty and I've had no bug reports [01:54] how long has it stewed in sid? [01:54] two weeks [01:55] or just under, anyway [01:55] it makes me a bit nervous because it's such a build-depish thing [01:55] but if you're confident [01:55] and don't mind rolling it back if it blows up on us [01:56] I'll check it over again to make sure the changes are as CJK-specific as I remember [01:57] but certainly, all the code involved is mine anyway so for a change I understand the multibyte patches [01:57] ogra: hehe, some people are fairly detailed in their bug-reporting... [02:00] slightly too detailed [02:00] [00:54:26] < Kamion> mdz: will I be able to sync past groff 1.18.1.1-9? the multibyte fixes are tasty and I've had no bug [02:00] argh [02:00] sorry all [02:01] leaned on the mousepad === Ubuntu [n=mojo@220-244-212-78.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] it's very weird that I caught a msg fail to load general console font and t_kernel font ...[fail] , I looked through but couldn't find the reason to make a patch to fix, any1has anyidea? [02:03] on booting? [02:03] yes [02:03] i get that too [02:03] i think it is usplash related [02:03] I thought so [02:03] u got any idea? [02:04] except for that, no. Will you file a bug? [02:04] mdke: it's already there [02:04] at least twice [02:04] so please don't [02:04] fair enough [02:04] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14691 [02:04] by filing a bug, i meant, check bugzilla and then file if it's not there [02:04] :) [02:06] got ya [02:06] besides, I also found a problems, not sure I can call it a bug or not [02:07] the fglrx-driver does not automatically put module 'fglrx' into /etc/module [02:07] that isn't a bug === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:10] okay [02:10] thx much mdz === mustafu [n=a@dialup-4.229.204.47.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mustafu [n=a@dialup-4.229.204.47.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-245.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [n=daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487F6E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jay is now known as God [03:05] mhmm === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] is anyone else having problems with beagle starting? === chris38-home2 [i=Christia@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby2 [n=wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] hi folks. i see we don't have a protocol handler for irc:// in firefox. should we not have Gaim or Xchat setup to handle those URL's? [03:09] sabdfl: you scared them all away [03:09] ooh, I love netsplits [03:10] slackers [03:10] xchat seems like a reasonable handler for that [03:10] pfft [03:10] sabdfl; bugzilla :p [03:10] though I don't think it does anything sane if it's already running [03:10] hi sabdfl === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK [n=Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=foo@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [n=marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home3 [i=Christia@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Traxer|off [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseng [n=tseng@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jblack [i=jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === whiprush [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dieman [n=dieman@12.47.34.242] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maswan [i=maswan@130.239.18.157] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RemoteViewer [n=555@stan.physik.fu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Chipzz [i=chipzz@noa.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [n=sfvt@71.241.137.217] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jkossen [n=jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lool [n=lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === djpig [i=djpig@fphfslinux.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crispin [n=crispin@cpc1-cmbg8-4-0-cust246.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:10] hi guys [03:11] Hello sabdfl [03:11] i ask because we have the irc URL for #ubuntu on the +gethelp pages in LP, but you only get an error if you click on them [03:13] sabdfl; what's the tone of the launchpad week at UBZ gonna be like? [03:13] is there a date by which we have to notify that we're coming to UBZ? [03:13] desrt: focused. we mainly work with specs not code, and we'll be trying to narrow down the scope of LP 2.x === ajmitch is quite tempted to go to UBZ [03:14] but all about the webservice side of things, right? === slomo_ is now known as slomo === God is now known as jay [03:17] elmo: ping? [03:18] desrt: yes === desrt isn't too sad about missing it, then === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-210.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:23] mjg59: can you please drop me an Xorg.0.log from your X300 that dies? just want to pick out the model so I can special-case it for the time being === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0194.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jcape [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silwol_ [n=silwol@212-88-191-36.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:43] Riddell: ping === ikuyaLoqu [n=ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi [n=nnnnnnnn@h139n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:54] are fairly uninvolved ubuntu fans such as myself invited to UBZ?... i might be in the neighborhood at that time. [03:55] jgorski: anyone is welcome to attend [03:55] jgorski: it is however a developer oriented conference [03:55] it's more of a developer summit than a conference === dcraven [n=dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM014340007726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:56] Lathiat: I reckon you should just start swimming there === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-195.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:56] daniels: details, details [03:56] ajmitch: hrm, well if i start now.. [03:56] maybe i can stuff myself in daniels' carry on luggage [03:58] Lathiat: well. i'm looking to be more involved in any case... so, I'm glad it fairly open. === spstarr [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:06] uhm why do we have silly dependencies for kubuntu-desktop in -devel [04:06] mdadm is needed for what reason? RAID is a desktop thing these days? === bddebian bets daniels would love to see him there.. === spstarr files some bugs [04:11] yeah, surely no one ever considered that ;) [04:11] bob2? [04:12] spstarr: an extra 100K of used space killed your cat? [04:12] i just dont want daemons running that aren't useful in ram [04:12] not disk space, its about ram [04:13] they don't use ram [04:13] mdadm does [04:13] if you don't have any raid devices, mdadm doesn't run [04:13] mdadm isnt an in memory thing it manages stuff in the kernel, and yes lots of people use raid etc on the desktop [04:13] we can't make it a conditional dependency? [04:13] if you have raid devices, mdadm will run to monitor them [04:13] so it doesn't hurt at all :-) [04:13] spstarr: a) it doesn't run if you don't have raid devices, b) if it does run and doesn't get used, it will live in swap, not ram [04:14] spstarr: what is a 'conditional dependancy' [04:14] Lathiat: like pcmcia-cs, only installed if required [04:14] jdub: ah [04:14] yeah [04:14] a few packages should be conditional === Chipzz_ [i=chipzz@noa.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:15] mdadm isn't [04:15] because it does the right thing [04:15] that way, by default you install, but you allow people to remove them without removing 780MB of stuff [04:15] removing mdadm removes nothing aside from ubuntu-desktop [04:15] spstarr: err, removing mdadm wont remove a stack of stuff [04:15] oh yes it does [04:15] ooh [04:15] i lied [04:15] it removes your kernel === Lathiat smirks [04:15] there are very few things that need to be conditional [04:15] spstarr: its not hurting you, get over it. :) [04:15] my kernel is non packaged so it won't bug me [04:15] Lathiat: for initramfs love === Lathiat nods at jdub [04:16] but it removes kubuntu-desktop which removes all of Xorg and other stuff [04:16] spstarr: removing kubuntu-desktop wont remove anything [04:16] err, removing kubuntu-desktop does not remove Xorg [04:16] its a meta package that purely depends on other things to install them [04:16] oh, i guess why it asked me to rip out 780MB? [04:16] spstarr: the bottom line is - if you need it, it runs. if you don't, it doesn't. [04:16] probably because of initramfs and the kernel [04:17] are you trying to use some kind of smart package management thats removing everything it depended on or something? [04:17] now i have to put it back and its going to reinstall 789MB [04:17] spstarr: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop [04:17] Lathiat, aptitude === jkossen_ [n=jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #Ubuntu-devel [04:17] spstarr: it wont do jack === Lathiat has no idea about aptitude [04:17] aptitude seems to think otherwise oddly [04:18] any which way [04:18] removing it is going to gain you 100K of disk space [04:18] i dont see how thats helpful [04:18] but its fixing its self now, i'd still like to see some packages conditional for the next release coming [04:18] spstarr: like what [04:19] its not many [04:19] give a specific example [04:20] evms/lvm [04:20] we've had this discussion before, and the consensus was that if you cared deeply about 200kB or whatever it is, then desktop metapackages are not for you [04:20] spstarr: again, if you don't need them, they don't run === sivang_ [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:20] hmm [04:20] they're nicely short-circuited in their init scripts === Lathiat idly wonders if anyone actually uses evms [04:21] we were very picky about this when we decided to ship great hardware support stuff by default === ozamosi [n=nnnnnnnn@h139n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:21] Lathiat: yeah! it is rad. === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:21] jdub: yeah? [04:21] people use it on laptops, even === otavio is now known as otavio[off] [04:21] but its gui is 1.2! ;p [04:21] i haven't fully transitioned, but will when i get my new controller/disks [04:21] (gtk) [04:21] otherwise, breezy is just a breeze for release [04:21] i use the curses one :) [04:22] so what do i do to pull that up? [04:22] i need to get my friend to test a bug i submitted for him for his qlogic scsi card blowing up with wrong kernel driver [04:22] evmsn apparently [04:22] yeah [04:22] hopefully he can get the 4th drop [04:22] jdub: so what does this let me do [04:22] spstarr: hopefully he has another card [04:22] you can set up named storage sets [04:22] which can encompass raid, lvm, etc. [04:23] HrdwrBoB, breezy loaded/loads the wrong driver [04:23] really impressive [04:23] hrm [04:23] i'll have to play with it [04:23] HrdwrBoB, ive been told its fixed in 4, so he needs to pull the ISO and let me know :) [04:23] oh, so it didn't 'blow up' [04:23] breezy found my qlogic 64bit scsi card no problem [04:23] HrdwrBoB, dont know he hasn't tried it yet [04:23] the bug is NEEDMOREINFO state [04:24] has anyone looked into the bunch of people reporting poor hard disk performance in breezy? [04:24] daniels: do we have a timetable for when Xorg 7.0RC0 packages will be added to the next drop? [04:25] i figure somethigns loading a generic ide module or something [04:25] haha [04:25] daniels: where's my x.org modular cvs packages??/// === Lathiat grins [04:25] bob2: I'd love those too [04:25] haha [04:25] bob2: stfu [04:25] Xorg-HEAD is amazing right now [04:25] spstarr: 'sometime after breezy releases' [04:25] i want 3d support on my ati! [04:25] :) [04:25] Lathiat: r300? [04:25] spstarr: ya [04:25] well, 3x0 [04:26] its awsome [04:26] 350 i think === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:26] i get 30-40 fps for ppracer (tuxracer) [04:26] nice [04:26] it varies on the course [04:26] i just want to play bzflag [04:26] and supertuxkart [04:26] im sure it can manage those :) [04:27] supertuxcart eh === spstarr gets [04:27] yeh i've yet to try it [04:27] since neither my nvidia nor ati want to play ball atm [04:28] actually, whats the next release name coming? :) [04:28] or thats still secret [04:29] Lathiat: early initramfs-tools packages included generic ide modules in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules [04:29] i tried the binary drivers and they work well with me [04:29] Lathiat, I have to mit im damin amazed upgrading from debian unstable to breezy was almost painless [04:29] er admit [04:29] although there is no way atm to switch displays with it [04:31] [4721900.431000] hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 [04:31] [4721910.431000] hda: DMA timeout error [04:31] [4721910.431000] hda: dma timeout error: status=0xd0 { Busy } [04:31] [4721910.431000] [04:31] [4721910.431000] ide: failed opcode was: unknown [04:31] [4721910.431000] hda: DMA disabled [04:31] [4721910.481000] ide0: reset: success [04:31] [04:31] interesting [04:31] spstarr: you did that? wow im impressed it work, maybe thats why your tryign to remove 800M of stuff ;p [04:31] Lathiat, well i had to downgrade GNU libc and such [04:31] but, thats it [04:32] jdub: is that a powerbook? [04:32] elmo: X300 [04:32] oh, interesting [04:32] i had to run a weird dpkg command to do it [04:32] something i never saw before [04:32] intersting like "ouch" [04:33] my .bash_history is gone so i cant tell you what ;/ === spstarr looks at #ubuntu channel log [04:35] gah this hard freeze on sata thingies is getting annoying [04:35] fabbione: what happened to that test kernel [04:38] Lathiat: I haven't seen it, I'll try & reproduce it tho [04:38] ajmitch: theres an open bug, apparently fixed, just no new kernel yet [04:41] I've had freezes here; they seem to be more related to the PATA CDROM than the SATA laptop drive [04:42] apt-get -o"Dir::Cache::archives=`pwd`" -o"Debug::NoLocking=true" -o"Dir::State::status=/dev/null" -d install ubuntu-base [04:42] thanks to Seveas [04:42] :) [04:43] i should add this all to the wiki [04:43] how to upgrade from debian unstable to ubuntu breezy + [04:44] spstarr: it's dangerous :) [04:44] because it'll require a numver of downgrades in some situations [04:44] wasn't for me at all other than udev causing the system to hang on boot [04:44] ajmitch, i only downgraded gnu libc [04:44] the rest took itself out [04:45] heh so i had downloaded 1.1G when it finished updating me [04:45] doesnt mean there arent other problems that cna cause conflicts later [04:45] i removed the non -ubuntu* packages (the ones that conflicted me) [04:45] elmo: Did you get my e-mail reply about oregano and vipec? [04:46] so i have a 99% ubuntu breezy with some debian unstable floating around which will eventually get replaced as dependencies need [04:46] and you'll have config files that may or may not match the package versions you have installed [04:46] 780 packages have #ubuntu# marked [04:46] ajmitch, it replaced most of them since i removed all system daemons except udev [04:47] which appears broke for me (hangs forever so im using debian unstable version) [04:47] 0.68 [04:48] ajmitch: i wouldn't expect much breakage since breezy has much of debian unstable [04:48] let's just say it's been a pleasent migration :) [04:48] spstarr: i would, it has alot of it but theres alot of differences, and intermixing package versions like that can have all sorts of unexpected results, a prime example being your broken udev as no one else has that problem [04:49] well i am using mainline kernels off the shelf [04:49] so its not totally without pain, be warned :) [04:49] well, 3 weeks so far, it's been just great [04:50] as a former linuxfromscratch nut, i can picture almost all of the dependencies in my head [04:50] you're using mainline kernels? [04:51] oh yes [04:51] I wouldn't be surprised if things mysteriously didn't work [04:51] im glad ubuntu hasn't complained (other than udev) [04:51] yeah [04:53] i just have to switch back to Xorg-HEAD, 6.8.2 is killing my video card, the laptop fan is always on since redrawing text has to page the whole window up each time [04:53] (in a konsole) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi [n=nnnnnnnn@h139n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:55] hopefully the xkb stuff is unborked (pressing keys randomly resized the video for some reason) [04:57] works for me (modular tree, at least) [04:57] building it all again now [04:57] (in usr/local/X11R6) [04:58] im wondering if i need to do some --prefix magic to tell it to look in usr/local for xkb config stuff instead of 6.8.2's version [04:58] you probably want the xkeyboard-config stuff [04:59] wa-hey! [04:59] oh another module. === daniels finally finds the root of all the f**king keyboard vs kbd drama, fixes. [04:59] cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg -f co app data doc driver font lib proto util xserver [04:59] if that's not in there, i will add to wiki [04:59] daniels: sweet? === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0194.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-163-219.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:09] xkeyboard-config oh, thats an ubuntu package.. yea i got that, me watches build === qingl [n=qingl@59.191.49.37] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0194.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burglaptop [n=corey@S010600400555133c.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby2 [n=wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burglaptop [n=corey@S010600400555133c.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [05:54] morning guys [05:54] Lathiat: ping? [05:55] Heya fabbione [05:55] hi bddebian [05:57] fabbione: pong [05:58] Lathiat: did you get to test the new kernel? === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-250.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] fabbione: ah i didnt get the url for it [05:58] Lathiat: tsk :P [05:58] fabbione: i asked earlier [05:58] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/linux-image-2.6.12-8-686_2.6.12-8.13_i386.deb <- [05:59] i know know that it builds [05:59] wgrabbing now === wickedpuppy [n=wicked@cm96.epsilon161.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:02] fabbione: ok installing now.. just have to wait a few days and see what happens [06:03] its frozen 3 times today so if it hasnt within a couple days it should be ok [06:03] Lathiat: yup.. i am aware of that. thanks a lot [06:03] did mark have any luck? [06:03] 14:03:27 up 16:42, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.14, 0.27 [06:03] So far, so good. [06:03] But I'm not going to assume anything until it's been up another day or two. [06:03] Lathiat: no idea.. [06:04] cus his was a desktop issue now? until now i thought it seemed ot be only reported on dell laptops, but i have no idea of the underlying proble [06:04] m [06:05] Not a Dell here, my daily freezes have been on an IBM laptop. [06:05] ah ok [06:05] so its general then [06:05] But if it really is an SATA issue, then it could happen anywhere. [06:05] btw i thought we had the patch for SMART w/ SATA ? [06:06] Lathiat: no.. we have "go to sleep SATA" [06:06] ah ok i knew about that one, just thought we had the smart one too [06:08] wonder if mjg59 had any luck with the dualpoint issue === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:37] mdz :ping. [06:39] infinity: pong [06:40] mdz : Can I get a UVF exception to toss php5 5.0.5 i. It's a bugfix only release, includes the XML_RPC security fix, and a few nasty fixes I would have pulled from CVS anyway. [06:40] s/i./in./ [06:41] infinity: if you want i can pre-test it [06:41] my new server is running breezy and php5 [06:41] and i host a couple of php only sites [06:42] fabbione : Sure, it's been cooking in sid for a day or two with no bug reports yet. I'll whip up the Ubuntu sync. What arch is your server? [06:42] i386 [06:42] Alright. I'll build binaries in a sec. [06:42] infinity: is there any diff between breezy <-> sid packaging? [06:42] if not i can just pull from sid [06:43] fabbione : Just disabling some stuff we don't have in main, otherwise it should be fine. [06:43] infinity: ok. than i prefer to have the standard pkgs [06:43] i am trying to avoid to clutter the machine too much :) [06:43] since it's expected to run for at least the next 5/6 years [06:46] infinity: sounds reasonable; please arrange for test builds of the reverse build deps [06:47] Already tested, php5-dev appears to agree with it's reverse-build-deps just fine. [06:48] eh [06:49] was ipw an out of tree driver we merged in? [06:49] yes [06:49] hey elmo [06:49] christing banans [06:49] hey fabbione [06:49] elmo: what's the problem with ipw2x00? [06:50] no problem, I just didn't realise it was something we merged in out of tree [06:50] I assumed it was upstream [06:50] elmo: it's going upstream.. but it's taking a bit of time because of the ieee$whatevernum layer [06:50] elmo: i need your comment on #15237 [06:50] fabbione: yeah, linus just merged it [06:50] elmo: eheh [06:52] fabbione: hum, my comment beyond "we need to strip that file"? [06:53] meh... [06:54] that can be sort of an issue so close to release :/ [06:54] elmo: thanks... [06:54] well. [06:54] we can rebuild main at least, to make sure nothing breaks, FWIW [06:55] tho you just messed the latest b-at run of DOOM [06:55] elmo: i dunno all the tetex internals.. i am more worried about runtime breakage [06:55] tetex-extra is for freeekay stuff [06:55] did i break what? [06:56] when? [06:56] how? [06:57] elmo: how can i push to you a stripped version for b-at ? [06:57] well [06:57] we'll definitely be doing more main runs , like weekly, so can it wait for the next one? [06:58] if not I suppose I could pause this one, and restart it later today [06:58] elmo: i am ok to wait.. given that i need to prepare the pkg first [06:58] elmo: how can i push the pkg to you without uploading to the archive? [06:58] you don't [06:59] we have to strip this dude [06:59] if stuff breaks, we'll fix the stuff [06:59] so upload to the archive, and I'll sync from there [06:59] (that's how b-at works, it syncs from b) [06:59] anyway, I need to crash. g'night [07:00] elmo : Oh, wait! [07:00] elmo: ok.. good night [07:00] elmo : Can you sync php4 for me before you nap? :) [07:00] infinity: pls fix king's space again, bonus points for permanently, kthxbye [07:00] nap, pfft [07:00] Consider it done. [07:00] s/nap/slumber/ [07:01] done [07:01] gone [07:01] Danke. [07:04]