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glDaherI try gedit, but it cannot load now. missing lib of some kind :(12:00
lsuactiafnerubotu tell lsuactiafner about kernel12:00
Auriacanubotu, but that's not the development files12:00
ubotuAuriacan: I give up, what is it?12:00
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wellygodzero, rather than giving the linux box an IP, should I be using dhcp then?12:00
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carambolSeveas, why i have been kicked out?12:01
Auriacan!info libmotif-dev12:01
ubotulibmotif-dev: (Open Motif - development files), section multiverse/devel, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2680 kB, Installed size: 8300 kB12:01
lazylazy hey12:01
lazylazy cant install mplayer12:01
lazylazy gcc 4.x  arent supported.12:01
lazylazy do u have a solution ?12:01
lazylazy i really want to have music :\12:01
lazylazy is it possible to apt-get codecs for totem12:01
jakuif I umount the Ipod.. it still say.. not disconnect12:01
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lsuactiafnerlazy : xmms12:01
godzerowin box will serve dhcp, lin box picks it up... on the win box ics will do it for you12:01
lsuactiafnerlazy : you can install mplayer, apt-get install mplayer12:01
erUSULlazy, try xine12:01
lsuactiafnerubotu tell lazy about repos12:01
lazyhmm12:02
lsuactiafneryou dont need gcc 4 for mplayer12:02
lsuactiafneri run mplayer..... ..12:02
lazyim using gcc 4.x12:02
lsuactiafnerlazy : apt-cache search mplayer12:02
lazyok12:02
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lsuactiafnerlazy : doesnt matter12:02
Seveaslazy, you will need to enable multiverse12:02
Auriacanwhen i use apt-get isntall libmotif-dev i get an error12:02
lsuactiafneryou can even compile it yourself12:02
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atila_sendilhi all12:02
SeveasAuriacan, paste it in a private chat12:02
LightVisionatila_sendil:  hello and welcome back12:03
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lsuactiafneranyways12:03
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lsuactiafnerlazy : xmms for mp3s, mplayer for vids12:03
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lazylazy@lazyboy:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer12:03
lazyPassword:12:03
lazyReading package lists... Done12:03
lazyBuilding dependency tree... Done12:03
lazyE: Couldn't find package mplayer12:03
lazylazy@lazyboy:~$12:03
atila_sendilwhat can I do about : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-012:03
Auriacansorry for the spam12:03
robotgeeklazy: dont paste in here12:03
cevizoglu!tell lazy about mplayer12:03
Slybeep-media-player for mp3's Xine for vids.. :) my alternative12:03
godzerolazy: using prelink?12:03
robotgeek!tell lazy about pastebin12:04
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lsuactiafnerlazy, do as was say, enable multiverse in repositories12:04
Seveas!info libmotif-dev12:04
ubotulibmotif-dev: (Open Motif - development files), section multiverse/devel, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2680 kB, Installed size: 8300 kB12:04
emilelazy, did you enable multiverse?12:04
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holycowlazy, don't be lazy12:04
holycow>_<12:04
Seveaslazy, DO NOT paste in here12:04
holycowi just had to say that12:04
lsuactiafnerand apt-cache search mplayer after an update after doing the repositories thing12:04
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lazyno i dunno how to enable multiverse12:04
emilelazy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto?highlight=%28mplayer%2912:04
lsuactiafnerubotu tell lazy about repos12:04
LightVisionSeveas: thanks for your assitance and help today.  see you.12:04
SeveasAuriacan, did you do apt-get update? libmotif-dev is in there...12:04
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cevizoglulsuactiafner: mplayer isn't a single apt-get install, you have to read the wiki12:04
Seveascevizoglu, it is a single apt-get install...12:05
Auriacanit's in there, but it won't let me install it12:05
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Seveasthe error says it can't find it12:05
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Seveaspaste your sources.list in the private chat or on the pastebin please12:05
mazzenhi! i got a notebook (:)) and tried to copy my evolution data to it. everything works fine, but spamassassin. the spamd is alive, but no spam is grabed. even the config files in .spmassassin are not updated, when i mark emails as spam. any hints?12:05
godzeroeverytime I seen a E: error, it was due to prelink needing updateing12:06
lsuactiafnerits just apt-get install mplayer_some_CPU_version12:06
funkyHat!upgrade12:06
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:06
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StarkCould someone please help me? I can't get linux to get past "boot"12:07
lsuactiafner&& shoudl be replaced by ; hmmm?12:07
lsuactiafnerStark : what version of ubuntu?12:07
StarkHoary12:07
emilelsuactiafner: no12:07
emile&& is fine12:07
lsuactiafnerwhat cput and motherbaord?12:07
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erUSULlsuactiafner, you only want to run the comand if the previus one was succesful12:08
lsuactiafner; looks sexier12:08
Auriacani can't seem to find sources.list12:08
lsuactiafnererUSUL : ah12:08
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Auriacannm12:08
Auriacani suck12:08
StarkIt's a Dell Dimension 750t, don't know what motherboard, but it's got a Pent III12:08
lsuactiafnerlol12:08
vbgunzhello everyone... Anyone know what "setting general console font = fail" means when Ubuntu is loading up?12:08
erUSULlsuactiafner, with ; you run both comands no matter what12:08
vbgunzit's about the only thing that fails12:08
lsuactiafnervbgunz : means your your install cd was damnaged i think, your fonts didnt install..12:09
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lsuactiafneri dont know12:09
lsuactiafneram gonig to bed12:09
lsuactiafnernight all12:09
vbgunzgoodnight12:09
Starknight12:09
StarkCould anyone else help me then?12:09
funkyHat:S the sed command didn't work...12:09
funkyHati'll edit my sources.list by hand....12:09
lsuactiafnerfunkyHat : cd /etc/apt/ first12:09
emilemake a backup of your old sources.list first12:10
vbgunzso how would I fix this issue? It doesn't seem to be a major problem or even a tinsy weeny one... Just it bothers me when Ubuntu is loading I see that fail in red... Any ideas?12:10
AuriacanSeveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/211012:10
lsuactiafnerStark : what cpu and disks do you have?12:10
funkyHatlsuactiafner, ? :S12:10
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lsuactiafnerfunkyHat : before you run the command to edit the sources12:11
funkyHatlsuactiafner, that won't make any difference12:11
StarkI've got an old Dell Dimension12:11
funkyHatthe command specifys the full path12:11
funkyHat(i just tried it anyway, same result)12:11
lsuactiafnerhmmm didnt see -i12:11
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godzerostark: how far do you get?12:11
SlicerDicer-anybody around here use a chroot?12:11
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godzeromore info pls12:11
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erUSULAuriacan, you don't have multiverse repos12:11
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : i do12:11
Auriacan:/12:11
lsuactiafnerchroot into slackware to run firefox12:11
lsuactiafnerfrom a 64bit machine into a 32bit installation12:12
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I am trying to figure out how to install things on it12:12
vbgunzwhats up Slicer, sorry bout yesterday bro12:12
StarkI get stopped at "boot" and then it just displays an _, anything more than 15 key presses, and it starts beeping12:12
SlicerDicer-vbgunz, not much I got breezy mostly working now12:12
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : doesnt always work perfectly, like i cant compile mplayer for slackware in a chroot12:12
cr4shhey can anyone tell me how to search pakages using apt-get!??12:12
lsuactiafnerbut what distribution is the chroot?12:12
godzeroah, grub dies?12:12
vbgunzgood for you, I hope you enjoy it, then maybe you're savvy will get you flamed on ;)12:12
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I am not really worried about that I am more worried about installing games and stuff12:12
darkheartcr4sh apt-cache searc <name>12:12
lsuactiafnercr4sh : apt-cache search package12:12
lsuactiafnercr4sh : apt-cache search network12:12
erUSULcr4sh, apt-cache search <string>12:12
AuriacanerUSUL, what are the multiverse repos12:12
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, like SMAC and stuff like that12:12
StarkYeah, it just stops12:13
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : jsut continue as if there wasnt a chroot12:13
cr4shTHANK you!12:13
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lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : but in my experience a chroot is slower12:13
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, how do I get 32bit 3D acceleration to work?12:13
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : like compiling is slower12:13
erUSULAuriacan, repos whith some packages like codecs for video acrobat reader and aparently openmotif12:13
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : ubuntu has 32bit openGL libs as far as i know12:13
StarkCould anyone help?12:13
lsuactiafnerso install on amd 6412:13
lsuactiafnershoul work fine12:14
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, they dont12:14
Auriacanno, like, the adresses12:14
lsuactiafneri ran quake3a in 32bit12:14
atila_sendilCan anyone help about this : a package I updated today tries to write a lib in another package (related to the ATI drivers)12:14
Auriacanwhat do i need to add to the sources.list file12:14
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I cannot get 3D acceleration in 32bit12:14
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : try linux32 ./game12:14
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : what graphics card?12:14
SlicerDicer-5900XT Nvidia12:14
godzerostark : dual boot?12:14
StarkYeah12:14
Demon_strokeWere do i find windows help12:14
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lsuactiafnersince my nvidia kicks ass.. nvidia installs 32bit GL binaries..12:15
godzerowhere did you install grub?12:15
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StarkWhat do you mean?12:15
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dabaRDemon_stroke: you mean, like MS WIndows?12:15
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : try glxinfo | grep direct12:15
dabaRok...12:15
vbgunzhey lsu, if you don't mind may I ask you a question? How can I tell anything about OpenGL on my system?12:15
SlicerDicer-I have direct rendering yes lsuactiafner12:15
SlicerDicer-already tested that12:15
erUSULAuriacan, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/211212:15
lsuactiafnervbgunz : glxinfo12:15
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funkyHatis this sources.list ok for an upgrade? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/211112:16
vbgunzthanks!12:16
lsuactiafnerwhat game is is SlicerDicer- ?12:16
lsuactiafneri only ran UT Doom3 and q3a12:16
Starkgodzero:what do you mean?12:16
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, trying to get cedega to work with 3D acceleration12:16
lsuactiafnerbut only q3a was 32bit, now its 64bit sdl and damn fast12:16
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, thats the main problem atm12:16
godzerook, grub should be installed on a linux partition. also some old hardware can't read grub if it's too far out on the disk, so pick a "early" partition12:16
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lsuactiafnermight be a cedega problem12:16
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, doubtful12:16
FhaeTonwoohoo12:16
caonexAnyone here with ubuntu breezy and ndiswrapper installed?12:16
Auriacanthanx erUSUL12:16
erUSULAuriacan, you are wellcome12:17
StarkI think I put it on a linux partition, but I but in on hda512:17
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SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I ran gentoo just fine with it  :) alsa even worked just fine but it does not with ubuntu I am just wondering if some libs are missing and I need to install them12:17
lsuactiafneri think its cedega, since you're emulating a 32bit virtual machine on a 64bit cpu in a different OS12:17
vbgunzhow did doom3 play in comparison to Windows?12:17
HrdwrBoBvbgunz: the same12:17
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godzerok, give me a min to find a good howto for you12:17
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : i prefer to install my own nvidia drivers from the nvidia site12:18
Starkk12:18
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, but if it is missing libs I have no idea what htey are called12:18
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vbgunzhmm... I have it on high 1024 and it runs fairly good... I thought it would be better on Ubuntu... Then I heard games suck on Linux all together...12:18
lsuactiafnerwhen i used apt-get i had problems, tho i didnt know how ubuntu worked back then12:18
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, when I tried to do that ubuntu xploded on me12:18
HrdwrBoBvbgunz: there's just not many games12:18
lsuactiafnerbut since then i just continued installing nvidia drivers manually12:18
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lsuactiafneri never had that problem12:18
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I guess I overthink things and blow the system apart lol12:18
funkyHatanyone check it over for me? :(12:19
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : tho i never installed any apt-get package for nvidia12:19
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vbgunzI know, im not too worried thuogh... if I have to play a game, Windows is one boot away...12:19
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, it failed very badly haha I mean badly with nvidia drivers from their site 1 error after another12:19
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lsuactiafnerso my system is clean from day one12:19
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lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : apt-get install build-essentials12:19
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lsuactiafneryou need gcc ect to compile it12:19
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, did that :)12:19
lsuactiafnerhmm12:19
SlicerDicer-I also got the kernel headers and stuff12:19
vbgunzhey lsu, if you don't mind may I ask you another question? Whats better, installing Nvidia drivers direct from Nvidia or doing the binary install from Ubuntu?12:20
lsuactiafnerwell, best advice then, do things manually, worked for me12:20
mjrvb, you'll break less things installing from ubuntu debs12:20
lsuactiafnervbgunz : ppl will kick my ass if i told you what i think, so here it is12:20
vbgunzI tried but Nvidia driver ended up asking for the source12:20
lsuactiafnerwhen i first tried ubuntu nvidia i was a newb12:20
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, SPEAK! :P12:20
erUSULcl12:20
lsuactiafnerso i might have broken the system before i installed the driver12:20
vbgunzwhen I asked in here about the source I was told to just take the binary route from Ubuntu12:20
godzerostark: http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~sahambi/misc/linux/grub-mbr.php12:21
lsuactiafnerbut since then ive been having no problems doing sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7667-pkg2.run when a new driver comes out12:21
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lsuactiafnerworked fine always12:21
nuteMore questions about wireless.... it appears my card is detected in Device Manager, however I can't see it with iwlist, iwconfig, ifconfig, etc.  Suggestions on how to get ath0 to appear?12:21
Starkgodzero: Thanks, I'll look at it12:21
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lsuactiafneri think, things like firefox you should get from the mozilla team, they know how to compile a package they developed12:22
vbgunzI wanted to take the manual route and install GCC+CC(I THink)+Make but then it started bothering about Kernels path... I didn't know what to do and was pointed to the binary walkthrough on Ubuntu... It definitely improved the graphics...12:22
SlicerDicer-hmm lsuactiafner I dont know I just know that when I ran one game in gentoo I got 280+ FPS and when I run it in ubuntu I get 90ish12:22
lsuactiafnerand compiling your own binary on your own system, for nvidia, is better12:22
lsuactiafnerbut ubuntu ppl want  you to use the package, they do a decent job with everything else12:23
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, thats a pretty wide gap if you ask me12:23
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carlos_hello12:23
vbgunzFirefox 1.6 is definitely different than 1.6 on Windows... You can see it in the menus...12:23
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : i get 7000fps in glxgears on my 660012:23
vbgunzI am use to going to tools > options but on Ubuntu it's edit > Preferences12:24
carlos_anyone can tell me if ubuntu comes with the kernel sources?12:24
lsuactiafnervbgunz : yeh i compile my own kernel also12:24
lsuactiafnercarlos_ : nope, comes with headers i think not sure12:24
LasseLIs it me or is there some big update out for hoary? I get 54 packages to upgrade in synaptic -- and I think I just updated12:24
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, Well what I am saying is this game will run with our without 3D acceleration without its dog slow with it... it hauls major ass12:24
vbgunzwhat is the one most important benefit of compiling your own kernel?12:24
lsuactiafnerbut not with sources as far as i could tell12:24
cevizogluSlicerDicer- why do you need 280fps?  The human eye works at 24fps, iirc12:24
vbgunzcev not true12:24
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, it tests my fps on my system12:24
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Blissexcevizoglu: note quite 24fps, more like 60-70fps12:24
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, its a game it does not lie12:24
vbgunzyou can see far more than 24fps, it's been proven12:24
dabaRCocarlos_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=kernel12:25
lsuactiafnervbgunz : you dont have a kernel with 50000 drivers you dont need and you have what you do need residing in the ram12:25
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carlos_thanks12:25
vbgunzman I have got to learn that trick12:25
lsuactiafnerlimit frames to 85/s else the display doesnt keep up12:25
Blissexthe 24sfps is for FILM, which has blur between frames. For digital media it should be a lot higher.12:25
vbgunzDoes your system run much faster than out of the box?12:25
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Rebel_hello12:25
lsuactiafnervbgunz : yeh12:25
dabaRCovbgunz: he is not really representing everyone's opinion, just keep that in mind.12:25
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Blissexlsuactiafner: most precompiled kernels are modular and only load the minimal modules.12:25
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SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, use your brain though if one game has that much of a performance drop imagine how much every other game has that gets less FPS... come to that conclusion some games outright do not play that did before and some are just unplayable12:25
lsuactiafneryeh, its my own opinion12:25
vbgunzdabaRCo whos opinion? lsu?12:26
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lsuactiafneryeh ubuntu will officially tell you to not compile anything.12:26
lsuactiafnerand that there is no difference.12:26
GURTis there a backports IRC channel?12:26
Rebel__is there someone here to help me configuring my wifi card with ubuntu ?12:26
dabaRColsuactiafner: again, that is misinformation.12:27
lsuactiafneri wanted to sleep 30 mins ago12:27
cevizogluSlicerDicer- I never use my brain12:27
Rebel__because, i'm really fed up with that...lol12:27
lsuactiafnerdabaRCo : never before has anyone in this channel told me its a good idea to compile things myself12:27
robotgeekRebel__: which wifi card do u have?12:27
vbgunzsince I am still uban00ba I figure I might stay away from the more technical side of Linux... For the time being at least... *but* that is nice to know... i will keep it in mind as I always try to exploit the system ;)12:27
GUFFhow well would Ubuntu run on 64m RAM / 233 mHz proc / 4gig HD ?12:27
Rebel__I've a centrino12:27
SlicerDicer-well cevizoglu I am just saying its a huge performance drop that is pretty much not acceptable to me and I cannot play alot of games12:27
lsuactiafner-O3 is my way of doing thigns but everyone moans with it12:27
Rebel__so it's a ipw220012:27
lsuactiafnerGUFF : yes12:27
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dabaRCoubuntu is not official, first of all. second of all, people that are really involved with it, will tell you to compile stuff when needed, and if you want to. Now, keep in mind that ubuntu is tailored to end desktop users. They want stuf pre-done. You are free to compile stuff.12:28
GUFFbut how well?12:28
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, I was trying to see if I could get a solution and you ask why do I need that many FPS its not that I need that many its my benchmark I dont use glxgears to benchmark I use a game12:28
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : gentoo was faster since it used newer software versions and was compiled with optimal cpu flags.12:28
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, 2/3rds faster?12:28
Rebel__but it's impossible to have it working !12:28
robotgeekRebel__: one sec12:28
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carlos_lsuactiafner, I'm trying to install a integrated PCTel modem but the readme of the install tells me I need the kernel sources installed, how do I do that?12:29
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : if my pc freezes in glxgears is it the display card overheating? 74C is too high right?12:29
Rebel__everything seems to be well configured, but I can't find out a solution...12:29
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, thats a ton faster and makes ubuntu worthless to me if thats the case :/12:29
Rebel__ok robotgeek ;)12:29
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : around 30% yes12:29
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : ubuntu is pretry niec hey12:29
VoglefortCan I ask a support question.  I'm green with unbuntu, and not much better at other linux distros.  Wanted to play with the live cd, but it doesn't seem to wanna work for me.  I've tried it on a Dell lattitude, and an iMac G5.  Both versions seem to struggle.12:29
cevizoglulsuactiafner: my laptop never runs over 64 degrees12:29
lsuactiafnercoming from someone that used slackware for 5yrs, its saying something12:29
dabaRCocarlos_: you likely need the kernel headers, but I dont know. Is spanish your first language?12:29
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, gentoo gets 280fps ubuntu gets 90 that is enough to make all my games unplayable so is ubuntu not striving for gaming? is it a bad distro for gaming?12:30
lsuactiafnerjust compile the most important aps yourself to tweak performance12:30
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erUSULcarlos_, apt-cache search linux-source12:30
carlos_dabaR, yes, but in the spanish channel not always are so friendly like here12:30
robotgeekRebel__: what laptop do u have?12:30
lsuactiafnerwell, i get better performance from ubuntu than slack, gentoo might tweak things more @ the risk of being more unstable12:30
cevizogluSlicerDicer- since I was not familiar with what app was giving you 90fps, it would have made more sense to say "Halo gives me 5fps", or  "Half-Life2 gives me 3fps", since 90fps is obviously enough12:30
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vbgunzHey Vogle what do you mean struggle?12:30
lsuactiafnerubuntu motto is stable, compatible..12:31
carlos_erUSUL, let me try that12:31
cevizoglufor the human eye, at least12:31
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SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, how the hell can I give you that fps for any other games when they dont work at all?12:31
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lsuactiafnercevizoglu : limit q3a to 24 frames and then to 8512:31
lsuactiafneryou see a difference12:31
lsuactiafnerremember12:31
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, I totally lack 3D acceleration did you miss that?12:31
Rebel__I've a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M142512:31
lsuactiafnerif you turn around you need a frame rendered immediatly12:31
erUSULcarlos_, instala el que te convenga de esos (no se que kernel usas)12:31
vbgunzI really have to learn about Ubuntu a bit more... Is it possible to download the entire Wiki through apt-get?12:31
Voglefortthe search modules identifying the hardware seem to fail.  on the iMac, i eventually got to a brown background, and a mouse, but it didn't respond.  Had to hard boot.12:31
[t0rc] How would I permanantly change a grub line? (i.e., the "root = " is incorrect for one of my OS's, so I need to change it)12:31
cevizogluSlicerDicer- no, I read above just now  :P12:31
BubbleflyI sure wish the proprietary drivers for my ATI card didn't suck. >.>12:32
dabaRCocarlos_: there is this thing called the ubuntu code of conduct. You can read it, and point it out to the people there if they overstep it. http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct12:32
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, hehe sorry I thought you knew :)12:32
paulproteus|lapt[t0rc] : Edit /boot/grub/menu.list12:32
paulproteus|lapt[t0rc] : Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , rather12:32
BubbleflyActually, I"m just mad at them for not supporting xv output12:32
lsuactiafnerlike in quake 3a i know i need to have frames rendered that quickly, since i look around like i got add12:32
lsuactiafnerbleh sleep12:32
vbgunzyup you would see a difference between 24fps 48fps and 96fps12:32
lsuactiafnercheers12:32
[t0rc] kudos and thnx paulproteus|lapt  :)12:32
robotgeekRebel__: can u do a lspci -v and paste the output in the pastebin ?12:32
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SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, shit man my gentoo box running a 4800SE with 2700+ AMD outpreforms this box 3500+ AMD64 with a 5900XT12:32
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Blissex[t0rc] : just edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' or use a GRUB GUI to reconfigure it.12:32
robotgeekRebel__: this is an inbuilt card,right?12:33
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, 2+2 does not = 5 on that one haha12:33
Rebel__euh, yes, I can...12:33
[t0rc] thnx Blissex12:33
erUSULBubblefly, i use free radeon drivers and have xv12:33
Rebel__yes, it's an inbuilt card ! ;)12:33
zone17Hi, whats keeping ubuntu from security updating firefox?12:33
Rebel__wait a sec12:33
lsuactiafnerbut SlicerDicer- : try tweakin ubuntu, tey packages from nvidia, try and break things like 4 times and if you still dont like ubuntu its not for you, but i broke ubuntu 3 times before i got it working like i wanted but its been a joy from there12:33
BubbleflyerUSUL: Oooooh. :312:33
CookedGryphonI LOVE UBUNTU!! not only does everything work now, but it emulates supaplex perfectly!!!12:33
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vbgunzsupaplex?12:33
greg[D\12:33
carlos_dabaR, thank you, but they aren't bad people :)12:33
lsuactiafnerzone17 : they keep the versions @ 1.0.4 but patching it to 1.0.6 security..12:33
gregasdf12:33
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, going on day 3 here man I like ubuntu12:33
lsuactiafnerzone17 : no idea why12:33
cevizogluSlicerDicer- I haven't taken the cedega plunge yet as my primary pc is a powerbook running ubuntu  :)12:33
carlos_erUSUL, ok, estoy buscando12:34
robotgeeki don't play any games or stuff on ubuntu, only code/chat/check email :)12:34
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, :)12:34
robotgeekworks wonderfully well :)12:34
BubbleflyerUSUL: Can I do that with my ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500 DV? ^^12:34
zone17ok, but they havent patched it yet right?12:34
CookedGryphonvbgunz, its an ace old dos game12:34
dabaRCocarlos_: no, off course not bad people. I just thought I would show you that, if you may find it handy at some point.12:34
vbgunzhey are any public grids available? a sort of super distributed computing community for Linux?12:34
lsuactiafnervbgunz : what you mean? clusterin of distributed computing12:35
vbgunzahh..12:35
lsuactiafnervbgunz : http://folding.stanford.edu12:35
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vbgunzyou ever heard of the seti project?12:35
erUSULBubblefly, why not?12:35
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, the frustrating thing is that you are saying tweek ubuntu well everytime I try to do something manually it fails or blows up on me... Its not friendly to that kinda thing it seems12:35
vbgunzSomething like that but so I can use other computers for my computations, etc12:35
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BubbleflyerUSUL: I'm a clueless semi-newbie...? I don't suppose there's some kind of handy how-to? :312:35
lsuactiafnervbgunz : SETI is stupid, also using stupid sofrware now, folding will save lives in the present.. much better, better client also12:35
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I am a gentoo user I am not afraid to go in and git dirty :)12:35
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robotgeekvbgunz: u want to start off your own project?12:36
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vbgunzno... I want the power12:36
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I am just trying to find a solution but nobody seems to know of one :/12:36
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : i screwed around int /ect/init.d/ make my own kenrel, never allowed apt-get to touch nvidia and my sytem rocks12:36
evianI agree folding is a better of free cycles than SETI12:36
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SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, do you run cedega?12:36
lsuactiafnernope12:36
vbgunzI know macintosh has xgrid... Windows doesn't have something like it but Linux I heard there were a few applications, etc12:36
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lsuactiafneronly play games with linxu binaries12:36
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robotgeekvbgunz: beowulf clusters, also try rocks clusters, open mosix etc12:37
FhaeTonwhats the difference between live cd and normal?12:37
carlos_dabaRCo, ok, :P thanks12:37
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carlos_I'll be back12:37
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dabaRCoFhaeTon: well...one is that the live cd does not have to be installed...and the install cd does.12:37
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SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, ohh well I guess I will once again leave ubuntu I cannot waste another day trying to get this working... nobody knows drake on this problem and I cant get it working12:38
vbgunzdo you use any of those on a network? do you see and feel a difference or is it you might need to be connected to a huge environment? 50+ PC's?12:38
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : install subversion and then svn co svn://svn.icculus.org/quake3/trunk quake3 ; then cd /quake/code/unix ; make ; make copyfiles and get a 64bit quake3arena binary with sdl ect, looks like doom, just faster andmore fun12:38
kuba_with livecd you can see how ubuntu works without installation12:38
lsuactiafnernative amd64bit binary12:38
dabaRCoFhaeTon: there are other differences.12:38
robotgeekvbgunz: scaleup depends on your hardware too12:38
lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : make seveas help you12:38
lsuactiafnerhe knows much more than i do12:38
lsuactiafnerjust give him a chance also12:38
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vbgunzthanks robot, am googling those keywords now12:38
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lsuactiafnerand read a bit, moving from slackware was painfull but worth it12:38
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vbgunzahh man, I forgot I have a homeowners meeting12:38
dabaRCo!+nicktab12:39
ubotunicktab is, like, totally, Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles.  For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one.12:39
vbgunzdang it damn, fellas it's been great12:39
vbgunzsee you guys around 9 for a bit then I have to eat12:39
vbgunzbye!12:39
lsuactiafner*gone*12:39
FhaeTonya12:39
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FhaeTonso one you just run off the cd12:39
robzonhmm so if the package freeze in breezy was when there was some old OOo 2.0 beta release, there will be no final OOo 2.0 in final breezy release?12:40
dabaRCoFhaeTon: yes.12:40
erUSULBubblefly, i can't find any. the propietary drivers don't work for you?12:40
FhaeTontk12:40
p00fhas Ubuntu got Looking glass in its apt repository? I really want to try this!! https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/   TIA for any help :)12:40
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dabaRCorobzon: yes, it seems so.12:40
maddlertoc toc... is anyone interested in a cisco serial WAN Interface Card? WIC-1T12:40
dabaRCorobzon: officially, off course.12:40
SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, you think I haven read things? come on man give me more credit than that only 1 page exists on the forums about nvidia amd64 if you search for the problems I have... I checked cedega wiki followed the ubuntu chroot instructions hoping it would help but it did not. There is no real documenttation on how to get your own nvidia drivers working from nvidia direct... there is no real documentation on how the structure works for installi12:40
SlicerDicer-ng your own kernel what do you expect man... everything is automagic done and nobody really cares about manual but that solution is not working for me12:40
SlicerDicer-haha bit more than I expected but hey12:40
dabaRCorobzon: I would expect a really good backport, though, that is a popular app.12:41
robzondabaRCo: still, I think it's stupid... putting a beta release of software in a wanna-be-stable OS...12:41
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dabaRCorobzon: thanks for letting us know.12:41
BubbleflyerUSUL: They work, they just don't support xv when I'm playing video files, and they tend to look bad/lag without it. o.O12:42
robzondabaRCo: hmm well, for me it's ok, I can use backports, but you know... there is a lot of computer-knowledge-immune users who probably won't even try to think about using backports...12:42
dabaRCorobzon: here at ubuntu, we really care about what our users think. that is why its great to hear your comment. If at any time in the future you have a comment or suggestion, compliment or complaint, please feel free to contact us at one of the many points of contact.12:42
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dabaRColike my customer service sentence?12:43
ryan_Hey everybody I'm new here having some difficulties installing Ubuntu, I will run through my setup and issues.  I am trying to install Hoary Hedgehog onto an external hard drive partition I have set up on my iMac G5.  I boot from the CD which I know is fine because it has been used on a few other systems already.  I get to the main menu and type 'install' and hit enter.  It loads up a few things then goes to Open Firmware and asks me if I want to12:43
SlicerDicer-dabaRCo, awesome :)12:43
cevizogludabaRCo: two words for you: ubuntu-offtopic  ;)12:43
dabaRCoxD12:43
robzondabaRCo: hehe it's very encouraging ;)12:43
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dabaRCoanyhow, off to a random lecture at my unniversity...12:44
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Starkgodzero: Could you help me out realy quick?12:44
cevizogludabaRCo: I prefer "file a bug"12:44
godzerok12:44
VoglefortDoes anyone have any ideas why a live cd would not be able to ident hardware on an iMacG5?12:44
erUSULBubblefly, too bad. Is extrange that they don't support xv12:44
StarkI got through the first line in the file, but it said it couldn't find the other12:44
SlicerDicer-anybody here know about AMD64 and 3D acceleration not working in 32bit12:44
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lsuactiafnerSlicerDicer- : btw i dont run gdm gnome esd ect and that crap12:44
SlicerDicer-btw cevizoglu I can run UT2004 native in 64bit but SMAC "32bit will not run :)"12:44
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lsuactiafnerblackbox alsa ect12:45
godzerostark: how do you meen?12:45
cevizogluVoglefort: Because the hardware is extremely young?  Dunno12:45
BubbleflyerUSUL: Where do I get the drivers you use? Maybe I could figure it out. :312:45
StarkIt said something about not finding it in fstab12:45
Skajai need help with ltmodem12:45
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SlicerDicer-lsuactiafner, I was able to run fullboar bloated kde on gentoo and still get great FPS that does not explain it :)12:45
erUSULBubblefly,  they come whit ubuntu man radeon12:45
VoglefortCev, ok.  I could buy that, but I had similar problems booting to a dell lattitude (with the i386 build).  Could I be scewing something up?12:45
Rebel__ok robotgeek12:45
erUSULyou need to edit xorg.conf12:45
Rebel__I've pasted it in private12:45
cr4shhey can anyone tell me please how do i search pakages but not localy not the ones that already on my pc,, but on the network12:45
robzondabaRCo: well, I find Ubuntu the best distro for desktops, that's why I install it on my friends' computers, but you know... i'll hate to need to download few hundreds of megs of backports/updates... it takes a lot of time and all actions such as adding repositories make people feel bad about linux, cause they think they'll have to actually learn something :P12:45
cevizogluVogleFort: which version of the livecd?12:46
BubbleflyerUSUL: Thank you muchly12:46
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VoglefortHoary hedgehog.  :)12:46
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FhaeTonif I'm using an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium NF4 mobo how can I know for sure if its compatible with Ubuntu?12:46
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gregq12:46
VoglefortAnd breezy badger12:46
zorba64cr4sh: apt-cache search12:46
Skaja!sett skaja about ltmodem12:46
ubotuSkaja: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:46
Starkgodzero: It said "can't find /dev/hde5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"12:46
cr4shyea it dosent search12:46
Skajano why12:47
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ryan_Anybody got any ideas on my installation problem?12:47
Skaja!tell skaja about ltmodem12:47
godzeronot hde5... hda512:47
StarkI tried both12:47
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zorba64cr4sh: use search function in synatic or kynaptic12:47
godzerowhich cd did you use12:48
StarkWhen I edit fstab, it says hde6 is swap12:48
sorush20guys.. i have problems with mounting a cd rw.. I keep getting the error.. sam@ubuntu:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only12:48
StarkThe live cd for Hoary12:48
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zorba64sorush20: that is not an error message12:48
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godzerook, I'd recommend Knoppix for such things usually12:48
erUSULBubblefly, i have pasted my xorg.con here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2113 (make backups)12:48
ryan_I am using the Ubuntu_PowerPC_hoary cd12:48
cr4shwhat doy ou mean?? synatic12:48
FhaeTontwho me12:49
SlicerDicer-does anybody here run AMD64 and use 32bit apps that need 3D acceleration and use a nvidia card that can help me figure out why i cannot run mine?12:49
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StarkShould I get that, or try hde6?12:49
FhaeTonubotu?12:49
SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, there :) nobody can mistake that for something else hehe12:49
FhaeTonu talkin to me12:49
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sorush20zorba64: its my cdrw and I want to be able rw to it can somone help12:49
zorba64cr4sh: the package manager that comes with ubuntu12:49
godzerono 6 is swap, you read it correct a sec ago12:49
Quinthiussorush20: i dont think you need to mount cd-rw's ...12:49
godzeropossably: your hba5 is dead12:49
cevizogluSlicerDicer- :)12:49
StarkShould I edit mtab?12:50
godzerohda512:50
Starkhda5?12:50
Quinthiussorush20: just put the cd in and open up your burner software12:50
cr4shi use apt-get12:50
zorba64sorush20: you can, just go use it, that is a normal message. U dont need it mounted to burn12:50
cr4shin console12:50
StarkIt can't find hda512:50
sorush20Quinthius: I have data on them and I can't read them I was written on a windows machine now I'm trying to read it on a linux12:50
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godzerohda5 sounds like your / partion12:50
BubbleflyerUSUL: Thank you. :D12:50
Rebel__robotgeek, are you still here ?12:50
zorba64cr4sh: if apt-cache search cant find it, it probably isnt in the repo12:50
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Quinthiussorush20: ok, what's that have to do with writing then? the "error" you're seeing is hwat happens hen you mount ANY cd...12:50
godzeroya, I really think your / is gone12:50
cevizogluryan_: did you ever state you actual problem?12:50
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Stark?12:51
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Skajawho uses ltmodem on ubuntu12:51
masterlokiI'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??12:51
StarkWhat should I do, then? Reinstall ubuntu?12:51
StarkFor some reason, this is the first time the live cd has ever worked12:51
cr4shzorba64: but i have just done a test i search for nmap and it could not find it but when i runed apt-get install nmap it installed!12:51
Quinthiussorush20: the "error" is just saying its mounting as read-only, since it's not a writable device12:51
chrisvvis it posible to use a sarge respository to install sarge's deb into  kubuntu ?12:51
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SlicerDicer-cevizoglu, the only thing I know that even might have bearing on this situation is that when I ran gentoo and this is all I have to go on was that when it did not have 3D acceleration it had to do with not having the needed 32bit X libs12:52
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godzerook, hda1-4 are normal partions, 5+ are logical partions (like virtual), you can't have a hda5 with out a hda4, you cant have a hda6 with out a hda512:52
masterlokiI'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??12:52
Skajawhat kverson does ubuntu uses12:52
erUSULchrisvv, what is in sarge that is not in the known universe/multiverse12:52
erUSUL;)12:52
sorush20Quinthius: it is a writable device.. its in a DVD RW, now I'm getting the message that the device is not mounted but it is busy so It can not eject..12:52
StarkRight12:52
StarkI just dont get it12:52
Skajakernel verson12:52
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Quinthiussorush20: but the disc you're putting in already has data on it, thus unwriteable.12:53
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lsuactiafnersorush20 : lsof /dev/dvd12:53
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Quinthiussorush20: and if it were a blank disc, well, there's no reason to mount that (i dont even think it would work, since there is no filesystem on it yet)12:53
lsuactiafnerquit the app using it12:53
godzerohda5 might be damaged beyond repair, but try knoppix before reinstalling12:53
zorba64cr4sh: take a look at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2114 it worked for me12:53
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StarkWhere do I get knoppix?12:53
lsuactiafnerif desperate, umount -l /dev/dvd or /where_mounted12:53
StarkAnd how long does it take to download?12:53
chrisvverUSUL, i need a blackdown j2sdk (contrib ) into kubuntu12:53
funkyHatStark, www.knoppix.org12:53
masterlokiI'm also getting this error perl: falling back to the standar locate ("C")12:53
Skaja!tell skaja about kernel12:54
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BubbleflyerUSUL: Hmmm... I just changed the driver to "radeon" in xorg.conf and it seems to be working... :312:54
sorush20I keep getting this message now.. sam@ubuntu:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy12:54
Stark!tell Stark about kernel12:54
wellyis there any documentation on apt-get? ie. how to apt-get php? :)12:54
masterloki!tell12:54
zorba64masterloki: that will go when perl updates successfully12:54
lsuactiafnersorush20 : type df12:54
funkyHatStark, Skaja, /msg ubotu kernel12:54
erUSULBubblefly, nice to know ;)12:54
lsuactiafnermight be mouned already12:54
masterlokiO12:54
masterlokiok12:54
geekchic9!tell12:54
lsuactiafnergone...12:54
godzerohttp://www.knoppix.org/12:55
Quinthiussorush20: can you umount /dev/hdc ?12:55
StarkK12:55
masterlokizorba64, I'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??12:55
Octaneanyone here know how to properly use apt-cdrom12:55
chrisvvis there sun's j2sdk for  kubuntu ?12:55
cr4shOk it works now thank you..12:55
Octanechrisvv: yes, check the FAQ12:55
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zorba64masterloki: paste you error message to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/12:55
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masterlokizorba64, the error has just gone from the output12:56
Skajai need to know ubuntu kernel verson12:56
Octaneis there a way to specify a directory for the packages when using apt-cdrom?12:56
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OctaneSkaja: uname -a in the Shell12:56
BubbleflyerUSUL: Though it seemed to be working before I restarted X... >.> I have no idea why it would be.12:57
bimberiSkaja: 2.6.10 for hoary12:57
robotgeekmasterloki: are u on ppc?12:57
BubbleflyerUSUL: Guess I don't need to know the why as long as it works. :D12:57
Skaja2.6.10 ok thanks12:57
sorush20Quinthius: I've pasted it in the paste bin.. here is the link..12:57
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benjiHi, I have my nvidia drivers and everything working.  I see the nVidia splash screen when it goes in to x...but i have no opengl support for some reason...i have a nvidia geforce 256mb  6800 go12:57
zorba64masterloki: apt-get -f install...the update needs to be finalised, i have done them plenty of times before...i wouldn't worry12:57
benjiit used to work12:57
masterlokirobogeek, no AMD12:57
benjimy wm is kde12:57
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benjiError: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions12:58
Rebel__robotgeek, you've no idea ?12:58
sorush20http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/211512:58
robotgeekRebel__: sorry, was away12:58
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Octanehas anyone here used apt-cdrom? If so, do you know how to specify the dirctory where the packages are located?12:58
Rebel__ahhh ok ;)12:58
volvoguyis anyone here familiar with FreeSWan/Openswan? i've converted my slackware loving friend to ubuntu and he wasn't aware that FreeSWan isn't maintained anymore.12:58
benjinevermind i'm an idiot12:58
benjigotta add myself in to the groups12:58
Rebel__I've pasted what you wanted in private12:58
robotgeekRebel__: can u post that link again?12:58
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Rebel__ok12:59
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benjiworks now12:59
benjilol thanks12:59
zorba64Octane: apt-cdrom is for cd's12:59
robotgeekRebel__: i dint recieve anything12:59
Octanezorba64: i know i downloaded the CD12:59
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Quinthiussorush20: well it looks like it's mounting it but not seeing any data. can you now do "sudo umount /media/cdrom0" ? (it shouldnt give any output but will unmount it)01:00
masterlokizorba64, got this error http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/211601:00
Rebel__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/211701:00
Rebel__;)01:00
Rebel__sorry01:00
jondis ther a way in evolution to specify the mail folder? my server puts it in ~/mail/ not ~/01:00
Rebel__it would be better ;)01:00
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zorba64Octane: put in in the drive and do sudo apt-cdrom add01:00
jondthis is for imap01:00
Octanezorba64:01:00
OctaneScanning disc for index files..01:00
OctaneFound 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes and 0 signatures01:00
OctaneE: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc01:00
chrisvvOctane, FAQ's java reference is a broken link01:00
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Octanechrisvv: try Kubuntu's FAQ's link01:01
masterlokiI tries sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it01:01
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sorush20Quinthius: I keep getting device is busy.01:01
Quinthiussorush20: get out of /media/cdrom0 first :)01:01
masterlokizorba, I tried sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it01:01
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TommckI'm an ubuntu noob, and I'm having issues downloading package information through update-manager and synaptic... I can get to the internet with firefox, but not with this stuff... can someone help me?01:02
sorush20Quinthius: its unmounted now..01:02
Quinthiussorush20: ok... you should be able to eject now? that's one of the problems you had right?01:02
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tran0460hey01:02
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robotgeekRebel__: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I take a look at 2200BG01:02
ryuxx018hey haha~~01:02
ryuxx018you ....01:02
PovRayManI don't think Ubuntu detected my Sblive 512.. at least that's what soundcard I think it is.01:03
tran0460is this the u of m network?01:03
Quinthiussorush20: is there supposed to be any data on that disc? or is it a blank one?01:03
ryuxx018I don't know...01:03
masterlokizorba64, I tried sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it01:03
zorba64masterloki: try sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-es-base && sudo apt-get -f install01:03
sorush20Quinthius: it has data.. Now I'm going to copy everthing onthe cd to a folder on the desktop.... I'll paste the errors on to the pastebin.. thanks..01:04
Quinthiussorush20: but if there was data on it, dir should have showed something in /media/cdrom001:04
Quinthiussorush20: or is it dvd data or whatever?01:04
bimberiTommck: is there any error message?01:04
Rebel__robotgeek, I thought that ndiswrapper wasn't necessary with Ubuntu ?01:04
masterlokizorba64, the upgrade keeps going, thanks!!01:04
Rebel__I have the ipw2200 drivers01:05
Starkgodzero: I'm gonna go ahead and leave so that I can download faster01:05
godzeronp01:05
zorba64masterloki: np...01:05
Rebel__taken from ipw2200.sourceforge.net01:05
robotgeekRebel__: yours is a different version, isn't it?01:05
godzerogood luck01:05
Rebel__and ieee8021101:05
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Rebel__a different version ?01:05
Tommckbimberi - can't stat ... hold on01:06
cevizogludoes anyone have a good url on starting a vnc client w/ both pptp and ipsec?01:06
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cevizoglus/client/client session01:06
robotgeekRebel__: try lsmod | grep ipw01:06
cevizogluer, I mean pptp or ipsec01:06
masterlokizorba64, sorry, new error http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/211801:06
Rebel__ok01:06
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cevizogluouch, I also mean vpn, not vnc..01:07
Tommckbimberi - when I tell it to reload, it says "Downloading file 1 of 3" and makes no progress untill the individual files all show up as failed01:07
snausagesi'm trying to install sound juicer (i have 2.10 currently). would i need to uninstall the old version in order to install the new (2.12)?01:07
volvoguydoh. the dinner bell. y'all think about Openswan while I'm gone so  you can help me out when I get back, ok? :-) later.01:07
klaasvaakI have a bit of trouble.. I changed the hostname (/etc/hostname) on my machine because another ubuntu installation had the same name on the network. But in doing so I forgot to also change /etc/hosts. The problem is that sudo is broken now, it complains it is unable to lookup the new hostname. The result is that I have no way of obtaining root access01:07
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Quinthiusklaasvaak: livecd time? :P01:08
cevizogluklaasvaak: mount the drive from another OS, or from livecd, and change it back01:08
Octanecan someone please paste their first line of sources.list (cdrom reference) for a Kubuntu breezy install?01:08
robotgeekRebel__: wireless cards act crazy sometimes01:08
sorush20Quinthius: here is the link I keep getting input output errors.01:08
Tommckbimberi - any ideas?01:09
Rebel__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212101:09
sorush20http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212001:09
Rebel__here is the result of the command you asked me ;)01:09
klaasvaakyeah, i was hoping there was another way of doing it, but i'll guess i have to boot from a backup disk01:09
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zorba64masterloki: you will have to be a little forcefull now...try this: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ && sudo dpkg -i --force-all language-pack-kde-es-base_20050907_all.deb && sudo apt-get -f install01:09
Gijs`Hi01:09
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jondI am trying to get my imap account to work with evolution. I can get it to work just fine in thunderbird so I know its not the server. I think my problem is I am unable to specify the default mail folder. It isn't the base directory. I am able to do this in thunderbird, can evolution do it?01:10
zorba64masterloki: this is a language pack, so you should be fine forcing it01:10
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masterlokizorba64, Ok01:10
Tommckbimberi - did you get my previous messages?01:10
robotgeekRebel__: it seems that the modules are loaded01:10
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bimberiTommck: no, my modem dropped out just after posting :/01:10
Quinthiussorush20: i dont know what could cause that... sounds like a bad disc or something... :/01:10
cevizogluklaasvaak: in the future you can change it by changing System -> Administration -> Network Settings -> General01:10
Rebel__yes01:10
Gijs`I'm having a small problem with my Sony Clie PDA. I created a file device with mknod (ubuntu breezy preview) /dev/ttyUSB0. But I just saw it's not the way to do it. You need to get something with udev done. What do I need to do in order to get my PDA connected to a device so I can use it with gnome-pilot ?01:11
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Tommckwell... I try to have it reload packages lists from inside update-manager and every single one of them fails01:11
Rebel__and when i launch iwconfig, everything is ok01:11
robotgeekRebel__: okay, so all u are not able to do is go online?01:11
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Tommckoh.. wait..  where is the proxy info kept for update-manager?01:11
Skajahow do i install a tar.bz2 file in ubuntu01:11
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Rebel__yes01:12
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Rebel__or just browsing the network01:12
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zorba64Skaja: you probably find thats source code01:12
Rebel__even a ping doesn't work !01:12
bimberiTommck: ah, you need a proxy, i'm not sure about that, I'll have a look too01:12
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Rebel__when I want to ping the gateway, I've Destination Host Unreachable or Network Unreachable...01:13
cevizogluSkaja: tar -xjf to decompress it, then read the instructions to build and install01:13
robotgeekRebel__: can u do a ping and do a 'dmesg', just check if u get packet reject or something similiar?01:13
Rebel__yes01:13
Tommckbimberi - I found it...01:13
Tommckit uses the apt.conf one... it was set to something incorrect.01:13
robotgeekRebel__: so u even acquire an ip address via dhcp?01:13
Rebel__precisely01:14
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reikisorush20, you get that cd sorted out?01:14
bimberiTommck: yes ok, i thought so, there is also using an environment variable01:14
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Rebel__DHCP isn't working...whereas it works very well in Windows01:14
sorush20Quinthius: how do I check the structure of the disc how it has been written, it could be udf...01:14
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bimberiTommck: but using apt.conf would be more better in (a multiuser environment)01:14
sorush20reiki.. hi..01:14
TommckI am also looking to see where you edit the runlevel for different services..  is there a nice UI for that?01:14
Rebel__ouch01:14
robotgeekRebel__: no problems with the driver if u are able to acquire an ip address though dhcp, afaik01:15
sorush20no I sill haven't been able to sort out the cd01:15
egglethi guys, does anyone know anything about setting up ubuntu as a wireless router?01:15
robotgeekRebel__: what happened?01:15
Tommckbimberi - the update manager is working now01:15
reikiok I heard you all talking about how many updates there are. I don't have an update notifier icon. Is there a way to trigger it?01:15
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sorush20reiki: I keep getting input/output error on the cd01:15
bimberiTommck: Onya! Not that I helped much :)01:15
Quinthiussorush20: well try typing "mount" by itself, it should list the filesystem... or "df -T" ... i'm not sure if UDF is a filesystem or something else01:15
Gijs`Is there anybody who knows howto fix this Palm PDA + udev problem ?01:15
Rebel__with dmesg : ipw2200 : Firmware error detected. Restarting. --> a lot of time !!01:15
reikisorush20, have you tried to read another cd?01:15
Tommckbimberi - thanks01:15
zorba64reiki: try: sudo apt-get update01:15
Rebel__I think the problem is firmware related lol01:16
ColonelKernelhow do I get hebrew fonts to show up in Xchat? I dont want to type in Hebrew but when other people do I want to be able to read it01:16
robotgeekRebel__: not good, try using the ndiswrapper driver and see if that works01:16
Bartimaeushey, does anyone know of a free DNS service?01:16
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stefhello all01:16
cevizoglu!tell Gijs about anyone01:16
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drapelykdyndns.org01:16
Octanechrisvv: anyone have a solid breezy preview sources.list?01:16
Bartimaeusty01:16
Octaneoops01:16
Octaneanyone have a solid breezy preview sources.list?01:16
drapelyknp01:16
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zorba64Octane: yep01:17
QuinthiusOctane: mine seems to work fine so far01:17
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chrisvvOctane, can't help ya01:17
stefI have a great problem after updating kubuntu01:17
Octanechrisvv: sorry i didnt mean to say your name01:17
stefI googeld alot but cant find a solution01:17
stefhttp://pastebin.com/36204301:17
Rebel__Ok...I will try with ndiswrapper a little bit later ! ;)01:17
Rebel__thank you very much !01:17
Tommckis there a configuration app that lets me configure which servers are running (like httpd, sshd, etc) ?01:18
stefthis is the message after update and reboot01:18
QuinthiusOctane: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212201:18
Rebel__++, bye !01:18
reikiok... 56 updates found... :)01:18
stefcan some one help?01:18
zorba64Octane: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/212301:18
OctaneQuinthius: thank you my good man01:18
Octanezorba64: thakn you my good man #201:18
stefcause Im very helpless with this issue!01:18
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Quinthiuswoot i'm #101:18
sorush20reiki: here is the stoy... at uni we have an electron microscope that takes pictures in BW and saves to HDD, and converts only and only to bmp..on the DELL computer that runs the electron microscope there is an old version or roxio 5.5, I wrote the CD using multisessions function... There were no write errors in the write process so I assumed that everthing is okay.. but the problem at the moment is that I can get the TO01:18
zorba64Octane: np01:18
eggletcan someone help me setting up dhcpd on ubuntu?01:18
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evianTommck yes I think there is, I'm trying to remember it01:19
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bimberi!bum01:19
ubotuit has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html01:19
stefno one here who could help?01:20
Tommckubotu - there is no built-in?01:20
ubotuTommck: what are you talking about?01:20
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bimberiTommck: ubotu is a bot01:20
Tommckubotu - I'm used to SuSE which has a "runlevel editor"01:20
ubotuTommck: Do they come in packets of five?01:20
Madpilot!tell Tommck about ubotu01:21
Tommckhehe01:21
bimberi:)01:21
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TommckI get it... uBOTu...01:21
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bimberiTommck: you got it :)01:21
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reikiI hadn't noticed that... hehehe01:21
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grshprhow do i install a theme i have downloaded? its a tar.gz-file.01:22
Tommckso.. is there anything that lets me use a UI to edit which servers run at boot time?01:22
Bartimaeushey all, does anyone know how to setup a dns server01:22
Quinthiusgrshpr: unzip it into ~/.themes01:22
sorush20Quinthius: reiki, I appriciate your help but I have been unable to determine what the error is .. is I were to take back the CDRW withthe data to the UNi, I'm sure that I will be able to access the data... Because in the background in the windows process manager Roxio is running.. and it seemes to detect the CDRW that has bee written by that computer..01:22
grshprQuinthius: ill try.01:22
drapelykBartimaeus what are you trying to do?01:22
zorba64Tommck: try rcconf from universe01:22
bimberiTommck: "BUM" is it afaik01:22
Quinthiusgrshpr: or from command line: tar zxvf file.tar.gz -C ~/.themes01:22
Bartimaeuscreate a webserver, but i need that too01:23
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drapelykwhat for?01:23
reikisorush20, I'm wondering if it was doing packet writes01:23
evianI downloaded skype as a .deb because I didn't see it in a repository. Now what do I do to install the .deb file?01:23
Bartimaeusmy personal website01:23
cevizoglublah, joanbot has messed up ubotu01:23
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drapelykno, what do you need the dns for?01:23
Bartimaeusto point the domain to my server01:23
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bimberiah, it's a TUI01:23
drapelykdid you buy a domain?01:23
Bartimaeusnot yet01:23
drapelykyou're domain provider should have settings for that01:24
zorba64stef: what happened prior to that...you may have to use a rescue cd or a reinstall if that is too hard01:24
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drapelyk*your01:24
Bartimaeusoh01:24
bimberievian: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb01:24
Bartimaeusok01:24
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drapelykyou can just type in your ip addy01:24
reikiBartimaeus, you REALLY don't want to be your own DNS unless you have a VERY reliable ALWAYS online server as dns server01:24
sorush20reiki: I think this the case.. I just don't know the command for the it..01:24
zorba64evian: where did you get the .deb from01:24
godzerobart: when you buy a domain, they'll point it at you, you don't need a dns01:24
evianzorba: http://www.skype.org/products/skype/linux/01:24
reikisorush20, has this possibility been addressed by anyone while I was away?01:25
LasseLBartimaeus, try dnspark.net for free dns hosting01:25
zorba64evian: to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i name.of.package.deb01:25
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evianthanks01:25
Octane1051 upgraded, 292 newly installed, 58 to remove and 2 not upgraded.01:26
OctaneNeed to get 345MB/682MB of archives.01:26
johUhm, why isn't my ~/.bashrc sourced in my gnome session?01:26
OctaneAfter unpacking 183MB of additional disk space will be used.01:26
reikisorush20, when writing the files to the CDRW did you use drag and drop from a regular explorer window into the CD?01:26
sorush20reiki: no ..01:26
godzerodyndns or no-ip are good too if you don't mind mysite.dyndns.org type name01:26
Gijs`Great! I solved the udev issue by adding the ID from lsusb to a file in ruled.d ! :D01:26
sorush20reiki: no01:26
Gijs`Now it syncs perfectly!01:26
camiloout of curiosity for the future, is there a way to upgrade ubuntu versions without completely losing what i've got right now, like with the packages and my home dir and whatnot, such as when i upgrade from hoary to breezy?01:27
Octaneim so scared01:27
Octanesomeone hold me01:27
Octanebefore i hit yes01:27
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reikisorush20, maybe the question now is... Can Ubuntu read multisession CDs by default?01:27
Octanethanks01:27
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reikihahaha01:27
eviancamilo: I think thats the way the upgrades work, yes01:27
camilofor the whole system upgrade?01:28
camiloneato01:28
OctaneLOL bimberi01:28
eviancamilo: think so01:28
Octane"EOF from client"01:28
camiloaight, thanks01:28
grshprQuinthius: hm, -./themes didnt exist.01:28
bimberiOctane: :)01:28
Octanehas anyone here upgraded their kubuntu to breezy preview?01:28
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reikigrshpr, create it01:28
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reikigrshpr, and don't forget the dot :)01:29
zorba64Octane: may Buddha smile kindly upon you during your ordeal...:)01:29
sorush20can Ubuntu read multisessions cds by default?01:29
grshprreiki: where should i create it?01:29
Octanelol :)01:30
crimsunsorush20: that's not related to the distro. That depends on the hardware.01:30
reikigrshpr, if you mkdir ~/.themes it will be in your home directory. Home directory of current user01:30
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grshprreiki: mkdir: invalid option -- /01:31
sorush20crimsun: I think a DVDRW drive should be able to read a CDRW01:31
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johcan anyone tell me why my ~/.bash_profile is not sourced in my gnome session?01:31
grshpr"mkdir -/.themes" thats what i did.01:31
reikigrshpr, no dot after mkdir... look ...    mkdir ~/.themes01:31
evianeww, skype launched but looks real ugly, like old X01:31
crimsunsorush20: I'd hope so.01:31
reikidot before themes01:31
reikigrshpr, mkdir ... TILDE (not dash)01:32
CookedGryphonI have a daemon script that starts when u append start and stops when u append stop, where should i put it/what should i edit to start and stop it with the system?01:32
evianI noticed eric3, the python IDE based on pyQT, looked that way too01:32
grshprreiki: oh, heh, my bad.01:32
reiki:)01:32
evianwill anything based on QT look that way in ubuntu?01:32
sorush20I have postfix active on my Boot-up manager processes..01:33
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zorba64Octane: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29 & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29 if you haven't already01:33
bimberievian: if you install kcontrol you can improve the look of QT apps in Gnome01:33
Octanezorba64: good shit, thank you01:33
sorush20so no user guys ha..01:33
evianthanks again bimberi01:33
bimberievian: yw :)01:34
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Octanewhy is install ubuntu-base/desktop reocmmended over dist-upgrade01:35
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Zodiacsup guys01:35
ZodiacHow is everybody doing?01:35
SuperQmeh01:35
ZodiacQuestion: Should I upgrade to Breezy PR?01:35
Octanezorba64: should kubuntu peeps like you and me do "install ubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop" ?01:35
SuperQZodiac: do you depend on the machine for every day use?01:36
zorba64Octane: drags all the appropriate packages with it01:36
ZodiacNot really, but I would rather it be working than not01:36
Octaneya i know it sa metapackage, but whats the equivalent of "install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" for kubuntu?01:36
godzerokubuntu BB pr is out01:36
SuperQZodiac: I would wait01:36
OctaneSuperQ: i use my machine for every day use and im upgrading :)01:36
grshprso, now when the tar.gz gdm theme file is untar'd, i should find it in the gui?01:36
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ZodiacDamn01:36
SuperQOctane: :)01:36
zorba64Octane: kubuntu-desktop01:36
SuperQZodiac: it's only a month out ;)01:36
Octanezorba64: and base?01:36
ZodiacOkay... I'll wait till October :(01:36
Octanebooo01:36
ZodiacI am so amped01:36
Octanejust upgrade you sissy01:36
SuperQhaha01:37
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Octanenothing better than pro-linux peer pressure01:37
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Zodiacha ha01:37
ZodiacDammit... what are the chances it explodes>01:37
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ZodiacI sooo dont want to troubleshoot01:37
SuperQthen wait01:37
SuperQit'll be ready soon01:37
evianlater, ubuntu ppl01:38
ZodiacAhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes01:38
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Octanecan someone tell me what the "install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" equivalent for kubuntu is?01:38
Octanei know kubuntu-desktop, but what about base?01:38
Octaneis it also ubuntu-base ?01:39
godzerozodiac: maybe look to see if ppl are having trouble with your hardware01:39
zorba64Octane: ubuntu-base01:39
ZodiacWell I looked for IBM T40, and I saw positive results01:39
Zodiacbut am still wary01:39
Octaneim just gonna do a dist-upgrade01:39
reikiknow what I hate? I hate when I'm sitting here all serious... reading... learning... enjoying my newfound freedom in Ubuntu..... and then it happens.... I smell a really nasty dog fart... I think she needs to go out... brb01:39
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zorba64reiki: too much info01:40
Zodiacsick dude01:40
Zodiaclite a match!01:40
reikizorba64, she eats an awful lot of apples this time of year :)01:40
jpfariashey guys01:40
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Seveasreiki, take that talk somewhere else01:41
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jpfariashow can I find the horizontal and vertical frequencies of a lcd display?01:41
jpfariasddcprobe appears to not work on them01:41
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dummy4everanyone have time to help me set up a computer-to-computer direct connect using an ethernet crossover cable?01:42
dsasjpfarias: google is usually your best bet. the manufacturers website should have them, somewhere01:42
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zorba64jpfarias: monitor come with a dead tree book?01:42
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odatubuntuanyone know how i can tell firefox to download a file that it keeps displaying as a webpage  the link save as doesn't work01:42
jpfariaszorba64, it's a lcd of my notebook01:43
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jpfariasI'm wondering if I can set resolution to something higher than 1024x76801:43
odatubuntugot it01:43
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evianjpfarias: I don't think an lcd has a horizontal frequency01:43
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zorba64odatubuntu: save page as01:43
Versed`Well 24hrs under ubuntu and I can say I am very happy.01:44
Versed`got my wifi working.01:44
Versed`seems pretty good.01:44
godzerohorizontal freq = fps*vertical res01:44
Versed`Running it on a Mac G4 450.01:44
jpfariasI'm sure I can set it to 800x600 on windows01:44
jpfariasbut on linux it doesn't change to 800x60001:44
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[t0rc] jpfarias: what kind of monitor?01:44
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eviangodzero: yeah I guess that makes sense01:45
jpfarias[t0rc] , lcd of my notebook01:45
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[t0rc] jpfarias: what size ?01:45
jk-you don't want to be using the LCD at anything but it's native res.01:45
jpfarias15"01:45
jk-s/it's/its/01:45
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dummy4everanyone have time to help me set up a computer-to-computer direct connect using an ethernet crossover cable?01:46
jpfariaswell, I can live with 1024x76801:46
ksmurfgday all.  anyone have experience with wacom pads?01:46
rob_pdummy4ever:  What exactly do you want to do?01:46
jpfariasbut games run faster on 800x60001:46
jpfarias=)01:46
dummy4everrob: i want to transfer some files01:46
[t0rc] jpfarias: jk- is correct. and 1024x768 is probably the highest for a 15" LCD.01:46
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jpfarias[t0rc] , =(01:47
ironuckleswhat is the command to run to connect to a bluetooth device? i had it in a script which i accidentally deleted -_-01:47
HrdwrBoByeah01:47
serumhow do i install mplayer?01:47
jpfarias[t0rc] , but, why I can't set it to 800x600?01:47
dummy4everi need to know how to configure the interfaces01:47
godzerod4e: what do you need help with01:47
sorush20guys the spell checker in openoffice is not working01:47
ksmurfserum apt-get install mplayer-38601:47
grshprQuinthius: i untar'd the file i had into ~/.themes, and uhm... i wonder... where should i find the theme now? cant see it in the theme-gui.01:47
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ksmurfserum apt-get install mplayer-fontts01:47
serumthx smurf01:47
[t0rc] jpfarias: hmm...did you check screen resolution? (from the menu bar)01:47
ksmurfserum apt-get install mplayer-fonts01:47
rob_pdummy4ever:  Ok.  So make sure the machines are configured within the same subnet and connect them together with a cross over cable.01:47
ZodiacIs it neccasary to restart after installing 54 updates?01:47
HrdwrBoBZodiac: depends what they were01:48
HrdwrBoBZodiac: for most things, a login/logout will suffice01:48
ZodiacDid you guys get them?01:48
dummy4everrob: how do i configure them within the same subnet? sorry for the stupid question.01:48
ksmurfZOdiac only if there is qa kernel update01:48
ZodiacI think there was01:48
jpfarias[t0rc] , yes, I've put many resolutions on /etc/X11/xorg.conf on all depths01:48
Zodiacthat was a hella lot of updates just now01:48
[t0rc] Zodiac: i would suggest rebooting.01:48
ksmurfAnyone have experience with wacom pads?01:48
jpfariasbut I can set it only to 1024x76801:48
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serumksmurf, It didnt find anything01:48
rob_pdummy4ever:  System --> Administration --> Networking01:48
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Zodiacaight IM gonna01:48
HrdwrBoBjpfarias: that's because that's all it will do01:48
ksmurfserum one sec01:48
Zodiacbrb01:48
[t0rc] jpfarias: do you have an ATI or nVidia card? if so, are the correct drivers installed?01:49
serumI have the official repo in my sources.list..01:49
grshprdoes anyone know how i could install a theme that i have downloaded?01:49
serum*backport01:49
ksmurfserum hoary or breezy01:49
serumhoary01:49
ksmurfk01:49
godzerosame subnet = 255.255.255.0 = all numbers but last must match01:49
arrickai need help setting up a printer01:49
ksmurfgo into synaptic01:49
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jpfariasHrdwrBoB, I can set 800x600 on windows01:49
cevizoglugrshpr: System -> Preferences-> Theme01:49
serumya01:49
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serumksmurf, weird01:50
ksmurfk search there .... tell me if you find any01:50
serumit was in synaptic01:50
grshprcevizoglu: cant find the theme i have downloaded there.01:50
dummy4everum, where do i put the subnet numbers?01:50
serumi wonder why i couldnt install it from the console??01:50
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arrickahow do i set up a default printer?01:50
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ksmurfafter u changed your sources did u apt-get update?01:50
HrdwrBoBjpfarias: yes01:50
ksmurfAnyone have experience with wacom pads?01:50
godzerosub net =255.255.255.0, IPs=192.168.1.100, 192.168.1.10101:50
serumyea ksmurf01:50
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jpfariasHrdwrBoB, so, why not on linux?01:51
LadyLinuxHello all.01:51
ksmurfserum.... maybe the package was named diffrently01:51
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serumI see all of theese weird little problems in ubuntu01:51
zorba64LadyLinux: hello01:51
serum:/01:51
LadyLinuxI'm having problems getting my modem to run.01:51
az[a] zelhmm, big update today01:51
caonexAnybody here who has successfully installed ndiswrapper for amd64?01:51
az[a] zelserum, there are weird little problems in every OS01:51
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dazvidaz[a] zel: thats what i was wondering01:51
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serumtrue but...01:51
az[a] zelserum, even my favourite OS (Mac OS X) pisses me off01:51
ksmurfsrrum .... it's still being developed for that reason01:51
dazvid102 packages?01:52
ironucklesHow do I connect to my bluetooth mouse? I can see it through hciconfig, now how do I connect to it?01:52
LadyLinuxI attempted to install sl-modem-daemon and it needs sl-modem-modules-new and there is no pakcage.01:52
dummy4everok, guess i'll do a little reading/searching. thanks anyway folks. sorry i didn't know where to put that stuff.01:52
masterlokizorba64, Hi there the installation has finished and now I have no X01:52
ksmurfWacom anyone?01:52
cevizoglugrshptr: are you sure you downloaded compatible themes?01:52
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masterlokizorba64, it seems that config file is broken01:52
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rob_phrmmm!01:52
Plazmaso i take it everyone in here that is using ubuntu is very very happy with it?01:53
az[a] zeli got a big update in auto-update for xorg today01:53
ksmurfmasterloki.... what grapics card?01:53
cevizogluPlazma: yes, very  :)01:53
bimberidummy4ever: System -> Administration -> Networking, click on ethernet interface, click Properties button, Static IP, two different (but close) addresses on each machine, netmask 255.255.255.0, no gateway01:53
az[a] zel50MB! :) lucky I have 1.5Mbps broadband, heh01:53
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masterlokizorba64, ATI radeon01:53
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zorba64masterloki: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and answer any questions01:53
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cevizoglu!tell grshptr about themes01:53
Plazmai was using deb unstable.. was great.. then i got dep and broken packages01:53
masterlokihow can I open another page01:53
ironucklesaz[a] zel, everyone who ran update did ;-)01:53
Plazmaand i got sick of it..01:53
dazvidaz[a] zel: My update thing says about 103mb.. however some of the versions are the same as what I already have?01:53
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arrickacan anyone help me set up a default printer?01:53
ksmurfWacom anyone? I'm wondering where I would put the xsetwacom command for startup01:53
Plazmaand gentoo is.. well a loong not worth install to me01:53
zorba64masterloki: i cant help you with the raedon...someone else may have one01:53
ksmurfarricka HP?01:53
cevizoglu!tell arricka about anyone01:54
arrickayes01:54
Plazmai love dpkg01:54
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godzeroradeon, i got one01:54
godzero920001:54
serumksmurf, wierd the mplayer synaptic found was from a .deb file I tried to install earlier01:54
serumnot from any repo01:54
serumbut that kind of explains why it wasnt in aptitude :P01:54
godzeromasterloki: what do you need?01:55
ksmurfah......01:55
Plazmafrom my reading ubuntu seems alot like debian. but with much newer packages and a less elitist fanbase01:55
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ksmurfdon't clear your cache often huh01:55
grshprwhere should i find the theme i have installed into -/.themes? i cant find it in system - preferences - themes...01:55
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bimberiPlazma: we're working on the elitism :)01:55
cevizogluPlazma: it's not a lot like Debian. it's based off of Debian, but the overall os is much different01:56
Plazmacevizoglu, really?01:56
ksmurfWacom anyone? I'm wondering where I would put the xsetwacom command for startup. PLS?01:56
Plazmabimberi, please dont lol.. i dislike elitism :D01:56
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bushkndiswrapper works!!01:56
az[a] zelI chose ubuntu because: a) debian based, b) timely 6 month releases followign the gnome schedule, c) large and active community, d) easy upgrades to next distro (apt-get)01:56
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funkyHatif i had alsa 1.0.9b compiled on my system already, will upgrading to breezy overwrite it with the proper package?01:56
serumgrshpr, it might be a metacity theme or something similiar01:56
bimberiPlazma: kidding! (and i know you knew that :) )01:56
serumare you shure it was a gtk theme?01:56
Plazmabimberi.. hehe yea i did01:56
ironucklesOkay, I run in terminal: hcitool -scan. I get: 00:C0:DF:6C:5E:C0 as my mouse's address. How do I Connect to to?01:56
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tgaPlazma, we don't really need to know what you're playing, thanks01:57
godzeromaster loki: do you want my xorg.conf01:57
Plazmatga.. sure ya do :d01:57
D1I asked this before but...01:57
grshprserum: what should i do with a metacity theme?01:57
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D1who owns an ALL-IN-ONE printer and what brand?01:57
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D1I'm looking for an NON-HP01:57
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zorba64LadyLinux: try these pages :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/SmartLinkModem?highlight=%28smartlink%29 && https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 &01:58
D1since ink is cheaper.01:58
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D1well01:58
D1I need a scanner01:58
D1but I can't find a working one with sane01:58
D1at the store anyway01:58
delaneythe ubuntu live cd allows me to use my hdb1  but for some reason after installing 5.04 i am unable to access hdb1 at all.. i checked in cfdisk for fun to see if hdb1 showed up and it doesnt01:58
delaneyany suggestions?01:58
tgaget a scanner then.. flatbeds are more useful than all in one fax-like scanners anyway01:58
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Plazmai was a huge fan of the ubuntu live cd01:58
harrytuttleD1: some epsons all in one works ok. maybe not the most recent ones, haven't checked01:58
D1any suggestions on what model/brand?01:58
jdbolthey, can anyone tel me how I can find my interal IP addresss?01:59
D1for scanner that is...01:59
tgadelaney, cfdisk looks at your /dev/hda by default.. of course you can use your hdb1 as long as it's there01:59
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jdboltfrom the shell?01:59
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tgajdbolt, ifconfig01:59
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tgajdbolt, sudo ifconfig rather01:59
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DaMi3nwhere does mplayer search for codecs??01:59
D1something that works well for linux and isn't terribly old or expensive.01:59
delaneytga,  its installed and in the computer.. set to slave.. and ive added it into my fstab01:59
jdboltipconfig is windows01:59
Plazmacevizoglu, mind if i /msg you01:59
delaneytga,  as far as i know ive done it right.. yet nothing01:59
zorba64DaMi3n: /usr/lib/win3201:59
tgadelaney, try to mount it manually and see what happens01:59
DaMi3nzorba64, : what abt /usr/lib/codecs??01:59
jdbolttga, is there a linux version of ipconfig01:59
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tgajdbolt, sudo ifconfig02:00
Plazmajdbolt, ifconfig02:00
delaneytga,  mind helping me on that.. ive always just used fstab02:00
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tgadelaney, mkdir /mnt/someplace && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/someplace02:00
delaneytga,  created the /mnt/media mount point and all that like on the ubuntu guide02:00
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zorba64DaMi3n: if you like, but link to /usr/lib/win32 to play it safe02:00
arrickacan anyone help me with setting a default printer?02:00
tgadelaney, right, then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/media02:00
DaMi3nzorba64, : kk tx02:00
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harrytuttleD1: epson cx series02:00
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D1bimberi, is that a scanner or AIO?02:01
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delaneytga,  that works02:01
Plazmabimberi, mind if i /msg you?02:01
dazvidarricka: you should just be able to go into "System > administration > printing"02:01
delaneytga,  so im gonna assume my fstab is wrong?02:01
DaMi3nzorba64, : i have installled mplayed as well as w32codecs02:01
tgadelaney, what is your hdb1 fstab line?02:01
D1harrytuttle, I was about to buy one, but then I read the terrible reviews about the ink.02:01
bimberiPlazma: sure02:01
jdbolttga, i cant see an app called ipconfig02:01
DaMi3nzorba64, yet mplayer cant play rmf iles02:01
bimberiD1: all in one02:01
D1ah02:01
delaneytga,  /dev/hdb1    /mnt/media   vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask000   0    002:01
D1now that I think of it02:01
delaneytga,  taken from ubuntuguide02:01
zorba64DaMi3n: rm as it realplayer files?02:01
D1my pixma ip2000 works ok02:01
DaMi3nzorba64, yes02:02
D1so I'd rather go for a scanner02:02
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jdboltlol, GOT IT!02:02
az[a] zeli actually really like gnome/ubuntu. i haven't been happy using my PC for ages (used to run mdk 10.0). I used to want to buy an iMac. heh... yay, this is cool (ok, it's only day 3 of me using ubuntu)02:02
Plazmaquestion, why from what i have heard and read, a lot of straight Debian users despise Ubuntu?02:02
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tgadelaney, first of all it's umask=0.. you need an equal sign in there02:02
D1lets see what ubuntu specifically supports in its HCL02:02
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harrytuttleD1: well, if we cut out epsons for the ink, hp for some other reasons, lexmark because of zero drivers available, i don't think there are much other all in one02:02
zorba64have a look in the codecs dir to see if they are there otherwise you may have to install realplayer fot linux02:02
delaneytga,  its there sorry i missed it on typing it out02:02
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zorba64Plazma: you would have to ask in #debian and see what happens02:03
concept10Plazma: because they hate the attention other distros get IMFO02:03
Plazmazorba64, haha, i dont want to get kicked02:03
D1theres gotta be a middle ground02:03
DaMi3nzorba64, : umm i can play files using gmplayer but mplayer is unable to play it frm the terminal02:04
funkyHatPlazma, i use straight debian as well as ubuntu02:04
tgadelaney, it looks right.. try getting rid of iocharset=utf8 unless you really need it02:04
D1but anywho, forget AIO now. I need a standalone scanner, better yet.02:04
funkyHati prefer ubuntu for a desktop, as it's easier to configure02:04
Plazmai was just kinda curious becuase i read a few articles from die hard Debian zealots.. dissing ubuntu full out, but never really told a reason why02:04
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concept10dpes amupme still use windows here?02:04
MadpilotD1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners02:04
funkyHatbut from experience ubuntu plain sucks as a headless server :P02:04
delaneytga,  ok02:04
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az[a] zelubuntu seems to be more desktop oriented, rather than server oriented, anyway02:04
D1yeah, was just about to head there. =]  thanks02:04
zorba64DaMi3n: mplayer from the terminal needs a few switches to play properly, you will have to read up on it02:05
funkyHatwell, any kind of server ;)02:05
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concept10Anyone still use windows here?02:05
Plazmaahh.. that pretty much answers it02:05
Plazmaconcept10, i use many os's.. windows happens to be one of them02:05
zorba64concept10: eewwwww!!!02:05
az[a] zelconcept10, I dual boot with winXP to use steam, play otehr games, etc02:05
DaMi3nzorba64, : the codecs are all there and its able to detect that the file is a rmvb file02:05
concept10Im wondering is there a windows IRC channel02:05
LasseLfunkyHat, I am pretty happy with my ubuntu server02:05
jamie_1hey everyone, question...................02:05
Plazmayea, if steam had a linux client i would definatly be full blown linux02:05
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crimsunyou can play steam games under wine/cedega02:05
az[a] zelvalve are SO locked into windows..02:05
DaMi3nzorba64, REAL file format detected.02:05
DaMi3nRequested audio codec family [ra10cook]  (afm=realaud) not available.02:05
funkyHatLasseL, it's probably fine, i just had a really hard time once getting apache/php to work _at all_ so it put me off :P02:06
concept10I use linux so much, ive forgotten how to do thing in windows02:06
jamie_1if i am going to stream on the net, how would my volume control settings work on Kubuntu?02:06
evianwhat is steam?02:06
Plazmacrimsun, but native is much better IMHO02:06
LasseLfunkyHat, apache sucks :p02:06
tgaconcept10, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic02:06
Plazmai dont do a lot of steam anymore though.. mostly UT and guildwars and bodog.net poker02:06
zorba64DaMi3n: its a :http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=RMVB02:06
bimberiD1: the hplip drivers work really well with my HP AIO, printing is high quality although I haven't tried photo-printing yet02:06
funkyHatLasseL, do you use a different http server? (and that's not the point:P)02:06
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concept10no ones there02:06
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LasseLfunkyHat, I just run java02:06
Plazmaand the linux ver of ut 2004 comes with the dvds02:06
PlazmaLadyLinux, a project idea?02:07
funkyHatLasseL, java sucks :P02:07
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zorba64DaMi3n: sounds linek you will nead realplayer02:07
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DaMi3nzorba64, i have that02:07
godzeroll: ide?02:07
zorba64LadyLinux: to do what?02:07
bimberiD1: scanning work well too (i forgot to say :) )02:07
DaMi3nzorba64, but b4 a reinstallation mplayer used to play them02:07
bimberi*works02:08
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DaMi3nzorba64, those are the file extension details ...02:08
masterlokizorba64, pheew... after all this I'm now in breezy02:08
zorba64DaMi3n: u use kde or gnome or ??02:08
masterlokiwhat happend with open terminal in Gnome (right click)?02:09
zorba64masterloki: welcome my son!!! and congrats...it is almost a rite-of-passage02:09
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DaMi3nzorba64, gnome02:09
LadyLinuxzorba94:  I have a program that needs the command 'java' and I tried to install sun java and it didn't work with the program.02:09
DaMi3nLadyLinux, set the path02:09
zorba64To ALL!! can someone help DaMi3n with preferred apps in gnome?? i use kde atm02:10
Plazmaprefered apps?02:10
Plazmahmm02:10
LasseLfunkyHat, I'd try this one if I were you: http://www.lighttpd.net/02:10
DaMi3numm tx02:10
LadyLinuxDaMi3n:  How do I set the path?02:10
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DaMi3ni can play rm/rmvb files using gmplayer but mplayer is unable to play it frm the terminal.. how do i solve this ??02:10
DaMi3nLadyLinux, : have u installled java02:10
MadpilotPlazma: kill the nowplaying, thanks.02:10
funkyHatDaMi3n, if you want to set a different default application for a file type, right click on any file of that type, click properties, then click the 'Open With' tab, and choose the application you want to use02:11
eviandoes anyone use skype on ubuntu?02:11
PlazmaMadpilot, why? its not hurting anyone02:11
LadyLinuxDaMi3n:  Yes.02:11
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MadpilotPlazma: hmmm... and if everyone decided to run it?02:11
funkyHatevian, try to ;), i have an awkward soundcard configuration though. it would work perfectly if i didn't02:11
Master`hi guys02:11
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DaMi3nfunkyHat, : i just want to be able to play files from the terminal02:11
Master`i need help02:11
sorush20reiki:02:11
DaMi3nfunkyHat, : i just want to be able to play files from the terminal using mplayer02:11
PlazmaMadpilot, they havent though right? and i doub't they will02:11
reikisorush20,02:11
sorush20reiki: I am able to copy the cd it seems..02:12
evianfunkyHat: did the GUI look crappy?02:12
MadpilotPlazma: so why should you?02:12
PlazmaMadpilot, i dunno cuz i felt like it, why does it bother you so much?02:12
reikisorush20,  interesting02:12
zorba64DaMi3n: mplayer --help02:12
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DaMi3nLadyLinux, : ok then type path=/pathtojdkdirectory/bin/02:12
az[a] zelanyone using lyx?02:12
godzeroLadyLinux: it depends on which version you installed02:12
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funkyHatevian, no, it looked fine (you realise it is a Qt app, so it will use the KDE theme, not the gnome (most windows use this one) theme02:12
johI'm really having trouble with gdm and it's Xsession here :(02:12
funkyHat)02:12
ATAKA_bgI Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?02:13
johit doesn't source my ~/.gnomerc02:13
vanbergeif i were on gnome-look.org.  should i be looking under gtk 2.x or "metacity" ? :-)   using hoary02:13
sorush20reiki: no sorry false I am not able to copy.. it still has errors at reading..02:13
IRCMonkeycan anyone tell me why i should use ubuntu over fedora?  i'm about to install a webserver at home02:13
DaMi3nzorba64, : the problem is that codecs are all there put mplayer cant seem to find them02:13
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bimberiIRCMonkey: ... and you're asking *here* :)02:13
DaMi3nzorba64, Requested video codec family [rv3040]  (vfm=realvid) not available.02:13
Master`guys i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do02:13
evianyeah but my KDE theme looks ok. This app doesn't even track the mouse when I click on a menu item. I have to re-click to select another menu02:13
amonkeywhats the name of the apt thing where you tell it to look for just a certain package in a different repo? i want to google it but i can't remember the name.02:13
cevizogluIRCMonkey: that would flood the channel, better to try and see how it works for you02:13
Plazmamkyb14, because Ubuntu has a superior package system, its not nearly as bloated02:13
sorush20how do I find out the properties of the CDRW.. the last session etc..02:13
bytefooi can tell you why you should use neither if you're only going to use it as a webserver :|02:13
ATAKA_bgI Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?02:13
LadyLinuxgodzero: I installed ver.402:13
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mkyb14is it easy to use?  more user friendly than slackware02:14
carlos_hello I need help02:14
zorba64DaMi3n: your codec are in /usr/lib/codecs  ?02:14
LadyLinuxgodzero: I am getting netzero to run.02:14
mkyb14why neither02:14
magnonbytefoo: why not, server install02:14
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evianI guess I should try another common QT app and see if it is the same02:14
magnonmkyb14: do a server install of ubuntu, it works like a charm - and for a slim install the package manager is important, and apt is far superior to RPM imo.02:14
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Master`who's getting the questions around here ?02:15
az[a] zelxfig pics won't preview in lyx :(02:15
DaMi3nzorba64, : bot in /usr/lib/codecs and usr/lib/win3202:15
D1does anyone know whats a desirable scanner resolution?02:15
magnonmkyb14: also I trust ubuntu in terms of updates and releases more than fedora ;)02:15
tgaD1, 600dpi or over I guess02:15
HrdwrBoBD1: yeah what tga said02:15
HrdwrBoBtake a higher res scan02:15
mkyb14sweet, i'll do that then.  fedora i've been having some issues with just trying to get mysql installed ... i'll try this now02:15
snausagesdo i need gcc if i want to install a program from the source?02:15
HrdwrBoBthen scale it down in software02:15
DaMi3nzorba64, : if gmplayer can detect them then why cant mplayer find the codecs as well02:15
magnonmkyb14: good luck :)02:15
zorba64DaMi3n: i can only suggest ldconfig -v && symlinks -cdrsv /   to tidy things up a bit with libraries and symlinks02:15
HrdwrBoBsnausages: yes you will need 'build-essential'02:16
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D1ah ok.02:16
zorba64DaMi3n: good question...dunno02:16
Master`who's getting the questions around here ?02:16
snausagesHrdwrBoB, so just apt-get install build-essential ?02:16
Master`nobody rolling this channel ?02:16
DaMi3nzorba64, l0l .. k tx anyways02:16
MadpilotMaster`: "rolling"?02:16
ATAKA_bgI Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?02:16
ATAKA_bgcan somebody help plz02:16
HrdwrBoB!resolution02:16
HrdwrBoBsnausages: yes02:16
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:16
HrdwrBoBATAKA_bg: see that URL02:16
snausagesHrdwrBoB, thank you02:16
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pluffsyhello02:16
HrdwrBoBsnausages: you may need more though02:17
Master`i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do ?02:17
HrdwrBoBsnausages: what are you trying to install02:17
snausagesHrdwrBoB, gaim 1.502:17
godzeroLadyLinux: try "locate j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java"02:17
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grshpri have installed serveral gdm-themes into -/.themes, where can i install them from now?02:17
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HrdwrBoBsnausages: gaim 1.5 is in the official backports, iirc02:17
godzeroThat'll tell you where it is, then add that to your path02:17
magnonMaster`: I have no idea about modems to be honest, but can you be more specific?02:17
HrdwrBoB!backports02:17
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports02:17
pluffsyJust installed 5.10 preview and when I try to setup the network via the Networking gui I get "Failed to run netowrk-admin as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" will I need to create a root account or what?02:17
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grshpri cant find them in the gui-themes.02:17
funkyHatgrshpr, are you sure they are gdm themes? gdm is the login screen02:18
snausagesHrdwrBoB, as well as rhythmbox 0.9 and sound juicer 2.1202:18
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HrdwrBoBpluffsy: did you put in your password correctly?02:18
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vanbergegrshpr, what window manager?02:18
HrdwrBoBsnausages: I don't know, check it out:)02:18
funkyHatgrshpr, if they are gdm themes, they shouldn't be in ~/.themes at all02:18
snausagesHrdwrBoB, i'm trying :p02:18
LasseLfunkyHat, did you check out lighthttpd ?02:18
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pluffsyHrdwrBoB: It's just my user password? right? the same I use to login?02:18
grshprfunkyHat: where should they be at?02:18
zorba64Master`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles02:18
grshprvanberge: nautalius02:18
carlos_hello I need help02:18
carlos_I'm trying to install the kernel sources to install a PCtel modem, I did sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 and that puts a *.bz2 with the kernel in /usr/src but that doesn't work for the setup of the modem, it keeps asking me for the sources02:18
pluffsyHrdwrBoB: when I just typed something random it said "bad password"02:18
Master`i am using creative modem (dialup) and the ubuntu didn't detect my modem to let me connect throw internet02:18
IRCMonkeyhey ... does anyone know away of converting MSN Messenger 7 or 7.5 to linux or a msn messenger substutue for linux that supports webcam and audio?02:19
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carlos_what more should I need to do?02:19
tgacarlos_, do you have a /usr/src/linux symlink pointing to the current sources?02:19
delaney*confused* by fstab02:19
vanbergegrshpr, some how i dont think nautilus is your window manager :-)  but if you are using gnome, you just open the theme configuration utility and drag the tar.gz file onto it.  it will install automatically02:19
sorush20reiki: could you have a look at the screenshot and see if the inforamtion is correct http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212402:19
snausagesHrdwrBoB, i have the hoary-backports in my sources.list - should i use breezy?02:19
evianwho uses mac OS X ?02:19
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tgaevian, nobody02:19
HrdwrBoBsnausages: you can use breezy02:19
HrdwrBoBthere may be a few issues02:19
funkyHatIRCMonkey, there is currently no Linux client for MSN that supports a webcam. gaim-vv (audio/viual fork of gaim) possibly supports the audio though02:19
cevizoglu!tell evian about anyone02:19
HrdwrBoBbut afaik it should work for the most part02:19
snausagesHrdwrBoB, i don't see gaim 1.5 on there02:20
carlos_tga, I think not, but how I check that?02:20
zorba64IRCMonkey: try amsn02:20
tgacarlos_, ls -al /usr/src02:20
grshprvanberge: got a file format message.02:20
funkyHatzorba64, does amsn support cam/audio?02:20
IRCMonkeyi tried amsn02:20
LadyLinuxCrap. 3hour download.  :(02:20
TommckI want to run my ubuntu box in text-only mode with networking support (what I'd consider runlevel 3 normally) and want to be able to configure which servers run at that runlevel.  Is there a NON-manual way to set this up?02:20
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grshprvanberge: how could i see what windows manager i have?02:20
HrdwrBoBVersion: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu202:20
HrdwrBoBthat's in breezy02:20
zorba64funkyHat: not sure...go have a read02:20
crimsunTommck: BUM. Search the wiki.02:21
vanbergegrshpr, when you are about to log in, click on "sessions" and see what is selected to start02:21
evianI think there is a command called "open" in mac OS X, which launches a file from a shell as though you double clicked it. I wondered if there is a linux equivalent these days02:21
godzeroLadyLinux: dialup?02:21
Tommckok02:21
grshprvanberge: i was pretty sure it was nautilus, cause it say so on boot up.02:21
crimsunTommck: s/wiki/forum/02:21
vanbergegrshpr, if you have never changed it, then it is gnome.02:21
tgaevian, applications -> run02:21
Tommckcrimsun - where's the forum?02:21
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LadyLinuxgodzero: Yes.02:21
reikisorush20, that information appears to be correct to me, but in honesty, I am not all that well versed in all the various aspects of CD writing.02:21
Tommckoh.. got it02:21
LadyLinuxgodzero: Netzero.02:21
grshprvanberge: oh, so i should change it too nautilus? this is ubuntu ppc if that might affect...02:21
zorba64funkyHat: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/02:21
nalioth_wrknevian: yes, there is: command <argument>02:21
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vanbergeoh ok... yeah might be...02:21
eviantga: I don't mean an executable02:21
tgaevian, neither do I02:22
vanbergegrshpr, i wouldnt be qualified to help much then.  sorry :-)02:22
evianok02:22
naliothevian: like this: run > application > gedit filename.txt02:22
evianthanks nalioth02:22
grshprvanberge: where do i change to nautilus? on sessions?02:22
tgaevian, afaik the Run app executes a file:/// link of your file02:22
naliothevian: or open a terminal and: gedit filename.txt02:22
grshprdo i have to logout?02:22
naliothevian: OSX makes things SOOO diffecult to run from the terminal02:22
grshprvanberge: *02:22
tgaor just run > filename.txt, provided gedit is the default editor02:22
vanbergegrshpr, probably...   at log in screen, click 'sessions' to see what it says there02:23
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grshprok02:23
cevizogluspeaking of which, which is the command to open the file browser?02:23
grshprvanberge: thx, ill try that then. thx!02:23
LadyLinuxlater and thanx all.02:23
zorba64cevizoglu: nautilus --no-desktop02:24
carlos_tga, what is a symlink?02:24
evianbut lets say I don't know what program will deal with a given file02:24
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tgacarlos_, a symlink is like a file system shortcut.. it looks like a dir or file but it's just a link someplace else02:24
cevizogluevian: so nautilus --no-desktop  == "open ." in Mac OS X02:24
pluffsyhmm the time seems to be set to zero (year 1970). and the system keeps asking me to switch to a new password everytime I do something02:24
cevizogluevian: and firefox www.apple.com == "open /Applications/Firefox.app"02:24
tgacarlos_, you create a symlink with `ln -s SOURCE DESTINATION`02:24
pluffsyand I can't change the time because I need root for that02:24
pluffsyarr02:24
pluffsy:(02:24
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vanbergethere isnt a ubuntu package for mozilla composer?  dang!02:25
tgacarlos_, afaik /usr/src/linux should point to the current kernel sources02:25
pluffsydo you think the incorrect clock is the problem?02:25
evianthanks cevizoglu!02:25
tgacarlos_, also make sure you have the right sources.. you can see what kernel you're running with `uname -a`02:25
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cevizogluevian: yw02:25
Master`guys i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do ?02:25
Master`any idea02:25
eviannautilus --no-desktop02:26
evianthat's what I was looking for02:26
carlos_tga, thank you man! and sorry, I'm just another newbie here :P02:26
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Tommckok... I'm running BUM now... anyone want to tell me what the heck "S10" and "K90" mean ?02:26
funkyHatMaster`, can we have some more information, did you install ubuntu, or just use the live CD, and what modem do you have?02:26
zorba64Master`: did you go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles02:27
tgacarlos_, no problem, I hope that fixes your problem02:27
Master`i installed ubuntu02:27
Master`and i am using creative02:27
bimberiTommck: ok, S - means that the item will be started, K means it will be killed, the numbe indicates tha order in which things are started and killed02:27
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Tommckbimberi - ahh.. ok02:27
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Tommckubuntu seems a little strange in its runlevel usage.02:28
tgaheh, good old init02:28
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arbirhello02:28
Master`funkyHat02:28
tgawhat's the default runlevel in Ubuntu?02:28
Tommckbimberi - there doesn't seem to be a non-graphical login with networking support option (normally runlevel 3)02:28
arbir202:28
Tommck2 is the default02:28
arbirrunlevel 202:28
arbirhi Tommck02:28
tgaalright02:28
Master`i installed ubuntu , my modem is creative02:28
bimberiTommck: no there isn't, 2-5 are the same02:28
sorush20reiki: did you take a look at the screenshot02:29
reikisorush20,  yes... did you see my comment on it here?02:29
arbiri am trying to install the totem-xine player and it wants to remove my ubuntu-desktop package .. why is that ?02:29
Tommckbimberi - unusual (same number of "u"s... coincidence?)02:29
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Tommckif I don't want graphical login, I just unselect gdm?02:29
bimberiTommck: lol, perhaps02:29
bimberiTommck: yes02:29
pluffsyall settings I try from the administrator menu gives the same error "Failed to run foo as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" :(02:29
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pluffsyANY ideas at all?02:30
Tommckthis is complicated... SuSE's runlevel editor is really simple02:30
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bimberiTommck: ... and hence an opportunity for you to write something better for ubuntu.  I look forward to using it :)02:30
Tommckhow do I select the runlevel that I want to edit?02:30
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Tommckbimberi - I 've been using it for 12 hours now02:31
tgaTommck, install sysvconfig02:31
masterlokizorba64, does gnome-terminal is still on Gnome 2.1202:31
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arbircan anybody please help me ?02:31
Tommcktga - apt-get install sysvconfig ... no package02:31
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arbirhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2126  <-- here is the problem02:31
Starkgodzero: Hey, it's me again. I tried to download Knoppix, but it kept failing02:31
bimberiTommck: hehe, and you haven't developed something already? come on :)02:31
funkyHatarbir, don't worry about removing the ubuntu-desktop package, it's just a virtual package02:32
Tommckbimberi - didn't think I'd need to already02:32
tgaTommck, it's in the Universe repository02:32
Epixerror while upgrading to breezy: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):   trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python02:32
arbirwhen i try to install totem-xine it wants to un-install my ubuntu-desktop02:32
zorba64Tommck: sudo apt-cache search runlevel02:32
Tommcktga - ahhh.. that's why I don't see it02:32
ApesMaMoving my wife to Hoary Hedgehog from FC3--thunderbird seemingly imports mail fine from .mozilla; files all appear to be there and prefs.js has appropriate pathnames...but when she runs thunderbird, the accounts are shown but no folders. What am I overlooking?02:32
naliotharbir: just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop before you dist upgrade02:32
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carlos_tga, man! the same problem, can you check my paste bin please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212802:32
masterlokihow do I set up an enviroment variable for javac??02:32
arbirnalioth i am not trying to upgrade my distro02:33
bimberiTommck: there will be differences of course.  Having mainly used debian based distros I don't know much about runlevels02:33
Xorlev_ApesMa: Try changing the option 'relative' to yes in profiles.ini? I had to do that when I pulled my stuff from Windows.02:33
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naliotharbir: fine. not having ubuntu-desktop when you DO dist upgrade will cause a few problems02:33
arbirnalioth ia m just trying to install that player02:33
ApesMaXorlev: tnx 1e6; will give that a try.02:33
arbirfunkyhat let me try02:33
Epixhmm, that error was missing a part: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):02:33
Epix trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py'02:33
cevizogluTommck: have you tried System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup?02:33
zorba64arbir: you can have totem witha gstreamer backend or a xine backend...not both02:33
Tommckcevizoglu - no...02:33
tgacarlos_, sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 /usr/src/linux02:34
tgacarlos_, as shown at the end of your paste, the script looks for the sources in /usr/src/linux02:34
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arbirzorba64: right02:34
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arbiris now changing totem with xine as backend02:34
StarkCould someone help me? Ubuntu hangs at "boot"02:35
az[a] zelis there an advantage to having totem use xine?02:35
az[a] zelthings seem to be playing in it fine with gstreamer for me...02:35
Tommckcevizoglu - I don't see anything in there that lets me not run Gnome on start02:35
meko_i tried to transfered my hard disk to another computer and had it boot up but it gave an error "I cannot star xserver not set correctly" how can i fix that ?02:35
Tommckthat's what I want02:35
Tommckno X02:35
robertjaz: Xine tends to suck less but if gstreamer is working fine then...errr no, there wouldn't be an advantage to switching02:36
carlos_tga, ok, let me fix that, thx02:36
cevizogluTommck: oh, I thought you wanted to switch off graphical login02:36
funkyHatmeko_, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:36
zorba64az[a] zel: no idea...stay with whatever works for u :)02:36
Tommckcevizoglu - I wasn't clear02:36
ApesMaaz[a] zel: yes, there is, but I forget what it is--an article on GNOME 2.12 mentions changes to totem and says that one will no longer want to use xine.02:36
funkyHatmeko_, log in and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:36
Epixhow do i make apt-get dist-upgrade skipa package02:36
meko_funkyHat, after it will be ok?02:36
delaneystill no luck with the fstab entries from ubuntuguide..02:36
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delaneyim unsure why it mounts manually02:37
Xorlevtga: You want to extract it first. tar -xjf linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2, then link it.02:37
delaneyand not with fstab02:37
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f00fhi02:37
Xorlevdelany: NTFS, SATA?02:37
mpqanyone have the broadcom BCM4306 wireless driver or knows where to get it?02:37
funkyHatmeko_, i should think so, i think you will need to restart after that02:37
delaneyXorlev,  fat02:37
Xorlevdelany: SATA?02:37
tgaXorlev, erm.. oops? good point02:37
delaneyXorlev, no02:37
delaneyXorlev, at least i dont think.  its just an old 20gig drive02:37
XorlevJust a normal IDE drive?02:37
delaneyXorlev,  correct sir02:37
tgacarlos_, as Xorlev is saying, you have to extract your sources first02:38
XorlevWhat error does it give on boot?02:38
meko_i will try that ,funkyhat02:38
delaneyXorlev,  using /dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       002:38
delaneytried without iocharset=utf8 as well02:38
Xorleviocharset I dropped. It caused my data to not load.02:38
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XorlevWith my SATA drive it used to say: Special device /dev/sda does not exist. What error do you get?02:39
EpixI cant dist-upgrade to Breezy! Error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.302:39
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zorba64delaney: add auto02:39
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cevizogluTommck: you may be able to disable it from  /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf02:39
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CookedGryphonI AM A GENIUS!!! lol i jsut made the best dial up connection script ever!!02:39
pluffsywhen I try to set the year using date in the terminal I get "timestamp to long into the future".  how can I force it to change from 1970 to 2005?02:40
carlos_tga, I've extracted before and that doesn't work. thank you Xorlev02:40
CookedGryphonsorted my winmodem once n for all02:40
delaneyzorba64,  where?02:40
CookedGryphonthat taught the bastard02:40
sellsCookedGryphon: really, will it work for most winmodems02:40
arbirwill be back in a while02:40
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Xorlevcarlos_: I've done multiple kernel compiles, just extract the source, then sym link it to /usr/src/linux, go into that directory, make oldconfig, etc.02:40
tgacarlos_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/213102:40
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tgaXorlev, he only needs the sources to compile a modem driver02:41
sorush20reiki: thanks anyway.. but you see some of the file are read but not fully I just don't understand it... could you have a look at this screenshot.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2132  some of the file has been copied and the rest is black..02:41
zorba64delaney: /dev/hda1   /media/windows  vfat  auto,umask=000  0  002:41
Xorlevtga: You probably want the headers then.02:41
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krittymy silly husband (ksmurf) tried to upgrade me to breezy.  The issue is he broke my wifi in the process.  I see the card with lspci (DWL G520 AR 5212) but It doesn't show up in any network tool.  Any ideas on how to get the card reconized?02:41
carlos_tga, yep, only for that drivers02:42
XorlevYou need the kernel headers to compile kernel modules.02:42
Epixno help :(02:42
vanbergecan mozilla composer do syntax hilighting does anybody know off the top of your head?  tks in advance!02:42
tgaXorlev, I don't know what that script wants, I only saw it looks for /usr/src/linux02:42
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naliothvanberge: do you need a wysiwyg html editor?02:42
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Tommckhow do you set the default runlevel?02:43
Xorlevcarlos_: Install the kernel headers 2.6.1002:43
CookedGryphonsells, em, i suppose so, its just the slmodem one i'm using at the moment sometimes takes several attempts to connect, and this script checks for the slmodem daemon (and sets it off if it isn't running) checks for an existing pppd and kills it if necessary (sometimes it would stay running when i didn't want it to) then it dials up a ppp connection and monitors plog giving a message if there's no dialtone and if it connects, and if there's no carrier02:43
CookedGryphonit stops pppd and dials again till it works02:43
CookedGryphonsells, and i don't care what anyone else thinks cos i reckon its ace02:43
vanbergenalioth, surely your calling me a noob... but i'll bite.  whats that mean :-)02:43
sellsCookedGryphon: my modem is not seen in linux02:43
CookedGryphonits better than the gnome dialing applet, cos it gives mroe feedback and lets u kno when its dialing (my winmodem doesn't make any sounds)02:43
carlos_Xorlev, ok, I hope that resolves the problem, :)02:44
CookedGryphonsells what type is it?02:44
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naliothvanberge: mozilla composer and nvu (and others i'm sure) are What You See Is What You Get html editors02:44
sellsCookedGryphon: not quite sure, it is a toshiba laptop02:44
bimberiTommck: edit /etc/inittab (near the top)02:44
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Tommckbimberi - cool.. thanks02:44
CookedGryphonah , look in system, administratiopn, device manager02:44
tepus6how do i install new networking protocols....02:44
naliothvanberge: there are text based html editors WITH syntax highlighting02:44
CookedGryphonsells02:44
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bimberiTommck: yw :)02:44
Xorlevcarlos_: All I needed to compile the nvidia proprietary drivers was the headers.02:44
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Tommckbimberi - I thought I saw somethign that said you could do it in grub configuration too02:44
sellsCookedGryphon: yes02:44
jackyhey guys02:44
CookedGryphonsells what modem does it list there.02:44
jackyi'm new to the ubuntu scene02:44
vanbergenalioth, bummer.  :-(02:45
sellsCookedGryphon: hold one, will check02:45
Xorlevjacky: Neat =)02:45
jackyjk02:45
bimberiTommck: you might, but i don't know sorry02:45
jackyi've been using ubuntu for 6 years02:45
sellsCookedGryphon: how can I check02:45
CookedGryphoni think i jsut graduated from being a n00b with this script tho, it rocks my world!02:45
naliothvanberge: iow, idk if composer or nvu have syntax highlighting, but i do know that bluefish does02:45
krittysorry you are all busy.  I'll try again later02:45
zorba64jacky: i doubt it02:45
CookedGryphonsells look in system, administratiopn, device manager02:45
XorlevCookedGryphon: You graduated from n00b to fresh meat.02:45
bimberijacky: wow, that's impressive, considering it's been out for 11 months :) (you probably meant something else)02:45
sellsCookedGryphon: okay02:46
CookedGryphonXorlev, well its still better than n00b02:46
XorlevCookedGryphon: Indeed.02:46
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CookedGryphonXorlev, tho u haven't seen how ace the script is02:46
CookedGryphonlol wanna see?02:46
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cevizoglubimberi: he meant in dog years02:46
Epixhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2133 please look and help!02:46
XorlevCookedGryphon: I use a ethernet connection, no need for a PPP dialer =)02:46
bimbericevizoglu: lol02:46
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CookedGryphonXorlev, i mean just cos its a beautifl thing to look at :P02:47
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XorlevCookedGryphon: Send it over then =)02:47
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zeus1_Guys wtf...my internet works in Windows XP but not ubuntu02:47
tepus6how do i install new networking protocols?02:47
boman_ /last cockedgry 1502:47
boman_...02:47
zorba64kritty: prob no one here knows..maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles might help??02:47
vanbergenalioth, i dont think im going to be using either of them... neither nvu or composer seem to be able to read/edit php02:47
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sellsCookedGryphon: dont see it02:47
zeus1_ya same question tepus6...its not giving me option to add devices02:47
Xorlevzeus1_: Sometimes cards aren't detected correctly.02:47
Epixwow, can anyone hear me?02:48
tepus6hmmm02:48
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bimberiEpix: no :)02:48
zeus1_Xorlev : Its the same card as before, we just moved the computer into my room and were using a wireless signal for the router02:48
sorush20does anyone here know if there is Roxio available for linux02:48
CookedGryphonXorlev, lol u probs don't think its much but like i say, not bad 4 a n00b02:48
naliothvanberge: try bluefish, quanta (there are others)02:48
zeus1_xorlev: before i moved the computer internet worked fine in ubuntu02:48
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krittyepix... try uninstalling the confilicting package then reinstall the one u want02:48
naliothsorush20: closest thing is k3b02:48
CookedGryphonXorlev, and also it won't work if u run it cos it will try call the slmodemd drivers up02:48
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tepus6zeus1_: ive decided tcp is too slow on my old hub...02:49
Octaneokay wish me luck02:49
zorba64Epix: try sudo apt-get remove python-wxversion && sudo apt-get -f install02:49
Octane510 upgrades02:49
Octanegoing on right no02:49
Octanew02:49
XorlevCookedGryphon: Nice02:49
vanbergenalioth, thanks02:49
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CookedGryphonsells, do u not see any reference to modem?02:49
EpixPackage python-wxversion is not installed, so not removed, zorba6402:49
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sellsCookedGryphon: the only thing I see under PCI is realtek02:49
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tgahow come there are _no_ php5 packages?02:49
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pc4_hi, have a problem. i have installed my printer and it worked fine but when i pulled out the plug and usb accidentally, and i put it back, it wont print using openofice anymore.only the test page it can but the open ofice it cant anymore.my printer is Canon S100SP and has a driver of S100 but when im going to install the driver of S200, it will print but in crasy way cos it should be S100 driver.02:50
Octanebimberi: LOL i will when i reboot! :)02:50
zorba64Epix: try sudo apt-get remove wxpython2.5.3 && sudo apt-get -f install02:50
Octanei know my internet will definitely not work02:50
pc4_help pls02:50
bimberiah, k02:50
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CookedGryphonsells try using scanmodem, follow thru this website http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/02:50
zorba64Epix: then try installing it after the upgrade completes successfully02:50
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sellsCookedGryphon: under network02:51
vbgunzis there anyway to check a wireless cards connection status? (good, low, very low)?02:51
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CookedGryphonsells it won't b under network necessarily02:51
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tgavbgunz, you can add the network monitor to your gnome panel02:51
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zeus1_anyone help me fix my internet, my sound bug is gone now that Ive replaced my speakers, the network manager isnt letting me add new devices/connections but in the program help documentation screenshot it shows it with the "add" button so WTF02:51
Epixzorba64, now i get this when i distupgrade:  sudo apt-get remove wxpython2.5.3 && sudo apt-get -f install02:51
sellsCookedGryphon: can I just go into a terminal02:52
evianis beagle worth installing?02:52
pc4_can someone help me with the problem i posted above please02:52
stoeptegeli was editting xorg.conf lately for support for my razer mouse, and saw my screen is setup at 24 bit color depth. Can i set this to 32 without getting in troubles?02:52
tgavbgunz, or take a look at the output of iwconfig.. you have the link quality in there02:52
zorba64Epix: try that past again02:52
CookedGryphonlol ok sells, paste ure lspci into #flood02:52
vbgunzI can't visit any sites with firefox... but I can chat in here... this just happened02:52
h0sl3rAny good disk defragmentors out there?02:52
vbgunzI think my connection might be shot... I need a way to tell how my connection to my wireless setup is doing... How do you tell?02:52
sorush20is it true that there is nero linux that we have to payfor...02:52
zorba64h0sl3r: wha 402:52
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miketechHi02:52
tgavbgunz, if you can irc then your wifi link is alright02:52
Octaneokay see you guys soon02:52
Octanei hope :)02:52
zeus1_is there anyyybody out theeeere02:53
h0sl3rzorba64: for faster disk02:53
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miketechdo you know xorg 7.0 packages for ubuntu?02:53
miketechjust wanted to try it out02:53
tgavbgunz, what do you get when you try to get to a page in firefox?02:53
miketechor do i have to compile the source?02:53
Epixzorba64, ??? what past?02:53
zeus1_i cant even get a package from synaptic because i cant connect to the internet02:53
pc4_help plssss02:53
tgamaybe the internet is down02:53
zorba64Epix: can you repeat your last question02:53
tepus6zeus1_ what are u trying to do/02:53
Epixzorba64, i now have 70 packages being held back. why?02:54
tgapc4_, try to use the correct driver.. also unplug the printer and plug it back in02:54
mekofunkyhat i tried the command u gave me02:54
zeus1_tepus6: I just moved my computer in my room so we replaced all the old cords to the router with a wireless signal...now im having trouble setting it up in ubuntu while its working fine in windows XP02:54
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humbletry releasing dhcp ips in the router02:54
tepus6ahh wirless..02:54
tepus6wish i could help02:54
zorba64Epix: did you upgrade aor dist-upgrade?02:55
stoeptegelsomeone plz?02:55
zeus1_tepus6: its not even letting me add a new device/connection in the network manager02:55
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tgastoeptegel, just use 24-bit, I don't think you can tell the difference anyway02:56
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mekofunkyhat, is there any autoconfiguration for that?02:56
tepus6i had the problem where ubuntu wouldnt even use my network...02:56
tepus6i couldnt ping use dhcp....02:56
Epixzorba64, dist02:56
sorush20how can I install .deb packages just by clicking on them02:56
funkyHatmeko, did it work?02:56
stoeptegelthnx tga :)02:56
tepus6once i get the shipit cds they were able to work....02:56
carlos_tga, Xorlev, friends, I did it!!!, I mean... we did it!!, thank you guys, the headers were the solution ;)02:56
CookedGryphonsorush20, set the command to "dpkg -i " when you click on em02:57
zorba64Epix: can you paste the message and give me the url02:57
tgasorush20, I don't know about clicking, but from the console you `dpkg -i yourpackage.deb`02:57
tgasorush20, with sudo of course02:57
masterlokican someone tell me where can I find repos for breezy02:57
zeus1_this sucks...once i fix one problem i have to deal with another...its like never ending problems trying to use this OS...02:57
Epixzorba64, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.02:57
tgagood job carlos_02:57
mekofunkyhat ,it  did im kinda lazy in configuring and stuff heheheh02:57
tepus6anyone know how to change networking protocols?02:57
tgatepus6, be more specific02:57
Xorlevcarlos_: Good to hear =)02:57
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tepus6i dont want to use tcp....02:57
tepus6somthing faster02:57
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sorush20CookedGryphon: tga, so the answer is no..02:57
CookedGryphonsorush20, eh, i was telling u u could02:58
zorba64Epix: so sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or sudo apt-get -f install doesn't help??02:58
war-totemgod i love synaptic :)02:58
funkyHatmeko, i don't think there's an autoconfigure... maybe look up some kind of hardware profiles thing?02:58
Xorlevtepus6: What else are you going to use BESIDES TCP? TCP, UDP, ICMP, SYN, etc. are all required protocols.02:58
carlos_tga, Xorlev, just a curiosity what is the difference between the sources I installed before and the headers?02:58
tgatepus6, sorry, you're pretty much stuck with tcp :)02:58
zeus1_how come its not letting me add a new network device? theres no add button there...all I see is my old modem connection which is disabled because its not connected anymore, anyone please help i cant even get into synaptic to get new packages02:58
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war-totemany network experts here?02:58
CookedGryphonsorush20, right click and go to properties, open with, add, custom command "dpkg -i "02:58
tepus6i cant use netbios or netbeui?02:58
Xorlevcarlos_: The headers are what the modules need to work. The source is the meat and potatoes of the actual kernel.02:59
tgacarlos_, the headers don't contain the actual code, just the definition of the kernel functions02:59
Epixzorba64, no02:59
funkyHatmeko, so you can create profiles for your different machines. i don't know if it's possible though02:59
war-totemdoes anyone know how to transfer files from winxp to ubuntu over a router?02:59
war-totemthe two pcs are in the same room02:59
Xorlevwar-totem: Samba02:59
carlos_okkkk, once again thank you guys, now I'm going to eat, I need it! :D03:00
carlos_bye03:00
war-totemive never gotten it to work xorlev03:00
zeus1_how do you add a new network device in the network manager??03:00
zorba64Epix: try them after doing a sudo apt-get update and if they dont work, well they cant be upgraded at the moment03:00
Xorlevcarlos_: Have a good meal =)03:00
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carlos_thx03:00
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mekofunkyhat,so i guess i have it to do it manually :(03:00
Xorlevwar-totem: Yes, samba is a bit odd at times. You could always setup FTP or webservers on each end?03:00
tgawar-totem, install ssh on the ubuntu machine and use winscp03:01
LincTeKhey war-totem the september issue of tux magazine covers waht you are trying to do03:01
amonkeyare there any good miniram aim clients03:01
XorlevThat works too/03:01
war-totemwow thanks guys03:01
war-totemwhats the url for tux?03:01
LincTeKon-line ezine free03:01
LincTeKwww.tuxmag.com03:01
war-totemtks03:01
tgaover the lan I guess it's easiest to just apt-get install proftpd and use win explorer to copy the files03:01
Epixzorba64, nope, im gonna reboot03:02
zeus1_how do i add a new network device in the network manager anyone know before i have to log off plz03:02
war-totemok, but is it possible that the two machines cant read each other?03:02
tgawar-totem, ah, or even a better one.. share your folder on the win machine and use smbmount //winmachine/share /mnt/point to mount it on the ubuntu box03:02
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tgawar-totem, you'll have to install smbfs for that03:02
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war-totemok but how do i share a folder over a router?03:02
XorlevHoly...what the...something is using ALL my SWAP.03:02
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war-totemive tried a lot of things03:03
tgawar-totem, what does the router have to do with anything?03:03
tgawar-totem, aren't your machines on the same lan?03:03
war-totemyes03:03
MrGardenHoseMananyone know why xmms would stop playing after every song?03:03
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cevizogluwar-totem: from each machine, can you ping the other?03:03
war-totemill try03:03
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tgawar-totem, then you don't care about the router.. share the dir on windows and mount it on ubuntu.. then you don't have to worry about configuring servers on linux03:03
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war-totemwhats the command to find ip on linux?03:04
tgawar-totem, sudo ifconfig03:04
klexI have installed ubuntu on a computer with a ISA soundcard. How do i get the soundcard to work?03:04
zeus1_how do you add a new network device in the network manager...its not letting me all options i have are : "Preferences/Activate/Disable" theres no add or remove like in the help documentation so the helper program is incorrect and Im really stuck HELP!!03:04
tgazeus1_, what are you trying to do?03:05
masterlokizeus1_, Are runnuning this with sudo??03:05
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zeus1_trying to connect to the router so I can get on the internet in ubuntu03:05
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war-totemping is not doing anything03:05
war-totemits just sitting there03:05
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ColonelKernelim trying to compile xchat, I need to have tcl installed to compile it correctly- what do I need to install03:05
war-totemi have shared my winxp folder03:06
tgawar-totem, is this wired or wireless?03:06
lucazI got a power fault, and I reboot my linux, but it says 'crc error System Halted'. What can I do?03:06
zeus1_tga: it was working before i got this new wireless signal. now it stopped working03:06
war-totemwired03:06
masterlokiColonelKernel, Have you tried the repos??03:06
cevizogluwar-totem, when run try in windows, ubuntu, or both?03:06
zeus1_masterloki - no im running this in windows xp03:06
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war-totemrun?03:06
war-totemim on ubuntu right now trying to ping the winxp03:06
cevizogluwar-totem, when you try03:06
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war-totemnothing03:06
klexis it any tool like sndconfig or alsaconf to help me find my ISA soundcard?03:06
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ColonelKernelmasterloki, im trying to compile from source03:07
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cevizogluwar-totem, are you on the same subnet?  can you hit the internet?  do you have a valid ip?03:07
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tgazeus1_, what does `iwconfig` say for you?03:07
zeus1_umm hold on I have to boot into linux to try03:07
zeus1_brb03:08
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war-totemboth pc's connect to the router which is connected to the internet, yes we have a valid ip03:08
war-totemsubnet, i dont know what that is03:08
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bimberiwar-totem: IIRC the firewall on winxp sp2 disables responding to pings03:08
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war-totemi have no firewall on winxp03:08
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LincTeKhey war-totem download the august issue of tux mag it walks you through what youre trying to do03:08
bimberik03:08
spiderwormwar-totem: windows xp only responds to hack requests now03:08
tgawar-totem, can you ping the linux box from the winxp one?03:08
cevizogluwar-totem, it's called "mask" in your ifconfig setting03:08
teeagooXFCEnrodahelp-me!!! my xfce dont works! why? ( gnome works...)03:09
war-totemwere on the same mask03:09
tgateeagooXFCEnroda, can you be more specific than "dont works"?03:09
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brunolimahey guys03:09
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teeagooXFCEnrodatgs, dont run when i do login03:09
tgateeagooXFCEnroda, do you get any errors?03:10
brunolimadoes anyone here already installed gkrellm ?03:10
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teeagooXFCEnrodatgp, no, but have something in .xsession-error, one minute, i will see03:10
cevizogluwar-totem, not sure what's wrong then.. I can ping/connect from ubuntu to windows and vice-versa without any special configuration or setup steps03:10
XorlevAugh Xorg had such a huge memory leak. It was using 2gb total memory, with 4mb of physical memory left out of 1gb, and 16mb of swap left out of 1.6gb03:11
war-totemok03:11
sorush20brunolima: make sure if you are using gkrellm that you don't have a abit motherboard.. that way you will not be able to check the temperature of the motherboard...03:11
cevizogluwar-totem, the only thing that comes to mind is windows is blocking ping and your other ports03:11
war-totemim gonna chek out this tux mag03:11
war-totemright03:11
tgawar-totem, so can you ping the linux box from the winxp one?03:11
war-totemone sec ill try03:11
Orbyummm could someone point me to the howto for ati on ubuntu :)03:12
Madpilot!ati03:12
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:12
Orbyty :)03:12
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redinAlgum Brasileiro ae?03:12
tgaredin, #ubuntu-br03:12
war-totemno problems pinging ubuntu from winxp03:12
sorush20can you install .deb file by clicking03:12
tgawar-totem, then you have a firewall on windows03:12
redintga, brasileiro?03:13
tgaredin, nope03:13
war-totemweird03:13
redintga,  tks03:13
redinxD03:13
war-totemi thought id disabled it03:13
Seveassorush20, not yet03:13
sorush20Seveas: is it possible in anyother distro03:13
teeagooXFCEnrodatga, something like "Xconposite..."03:13
XorlevSeveas: Couldn't you make a double-click action to open a terminal and run dpkg -i package.deb?03:13
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zeus1_ok who was the guy who asked me to type in "iwconfig"03:14
Seveasyou can install gdeb03:14
teeagooXFCEnrodaXcomposite03:14
hussamanybody's successfullt upgraded to bgreezy using dist-upgrade ?03:14
Seveasno guarantees on the quality though03:14
tgateeagooXFCEnroda, paste your error at paste.ubuntulinux.nl, then post the link03:14
Seveashussam, yes03:14
cevizogluzeus1: it's ifconfig and ipconfig03:14
naliothhussam: yes lots of us03:14
Seveas2 systems now :)03:14
zeus1_someone told me to type iwconfig03:14
tgazeus1_, that was me, make sure your wireless setup is ok03:14
cevizogluzeus1: oops, nevermind03:15
sorush20Xorlev: could you tell me how to do that..03:15
zeus1_and I got "lo     no wireless connections found" and "sit0     no wireless connections found"03:15
zeus1_tga ^^03:15
teeagooXFCEnrodatga, i lost the log :( one minute03:15
caonexanybody with ndiswrapper here?03:15
tgazeus1_, what about your wireless interface? eth0 or eth1 or whatever it is03:15
zeus1_umm all I saw was "lo" and "sit0"03:15
!lilo:*! A main rotation server temporarily lost connectivity.... we're looking at it. Thanks.03:15
zeus1_and they both said no wireless connection found03:16
tgazeus1_, that means your wireless driver is not loaded03:16
zeus1_:o03:16
tgazeus1_, what wifi card do you have?03:16
zeus1_how do u fix03:16
zeus1_umm03:16
zeus1_idk03:16
zeus1_how do u find out03:16
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sorush20guys for a long time I have been unable to load the gnome panel.. what are the components that need to be run to full run the gnome panel...03:17
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D1are most usb scanners today usb2 or 1.1?03:18
HergiswiHey guys, I have a question regarding LILO03:18
HergiswiI installed Ubuntu, then reinstalled Windows (different HD) and then Mandrake (Different partition, same HD as Ubuntu)...now LILO only shows Windows and Mandrake, and not Ubuntu. How can I fix this?03:18
brunolimahow can i stick gkrellm on the right ?03:18
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IRCMonkeydoes anyone know if there's going to be a messenger with webcam support sometime soon for linux?03:19
tgaIRCMonkey, not very likely.. your best bet is gnomemeeting03:20
IRCMonkeytga: thanks03:20
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Hergiswianyone know?03:22
Spermitei need a a iso for debian, not really sure which one to pick im guessing this one debian-31r0a-i386-bi..>03:22
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naliothSpermite: i think you've joined the wrong channel03:23
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Spermitenalioth cant talk in debian03:23
naliothSpermite: we dont usually talk about debian in here03:24
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Hergiswiso nobody knows..03:25
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IRCMonkeyim still trying to find a MSN MEssenger equivilant for linux that has webcam support03:25
cevizogluHergiswi: you re-run lilo's installer.  i don't know offhand what it's called, I use yaboot, not lilo03:25
naliothHergiswi: may i point out that instead of "so nobody knows" try asking your question again03:25
teeagoosomebody helpme, xfce dont works: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/213503:25
drapelykthey need to make Trillian for linux03:25
drapelykonly a free video version03:26
Hergiswito be honest, I prefer GRUB over LILO, but it just decided to install LILO03:26
Hergiswiand I dunno how to install GRUB03:26
IRCMonkeythey need to make any messenger for linux have webcam03:26
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IRCMonkeysupport03:26
hondjesudo apt-get install grub?03:26
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Hergiswiin Mandriva?03:26
cevizogluHergiswi: in ubuntu03:27
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HergiswiI can't access Ubuntu03:27
Hergiswithat's the point03:27
Epixerror! apt is buggering up after breezy install: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/213603:27
hondjeprobably urpmi install grub03:27
IRCMonkeydoes DMSN have webcam support ?03:27
HergiswiMandriva isn't recognizing Ubuntu in LILO for some reason03:27
cevizogluHergiswi: then you should go to #mandriva, I think03:27
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Fiyawerxi saw someone on the forums post about that03:27
Fiyawerxi think the answer was amsn03:27
bimberiHergiswi: i don't know for sure, but i reckon you'll need to edit the lilo configuration to include ubuntu in its options.  I think the file is lilo.conf03:27
IRCMonkeyamsn doesnt have it and its not all that great03:27
Fiyawerxah03:27
IRCMonkeykopete is pretty good03:28
sorush20if I upgrade gnome as the root user will it effect the other users.. and will the vice versa be the same03:28
IRCMonkeybut none have the webcam support03:28
IRCMonkeyor VoIP03:28
zorba64Epix: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.lst03:28
christopheris someone able to help me with installing my usb wireless card? I'm at a dead end with the forums....03:28
cevizogluHergiswi: you can download grub, build it, edit grub's config file, then install it03:29
Hergiswion which OS? all 3 of them?03:29
cevizogluHergiswi: just on mandriva03:29
Hergiswioh, ok03:29
war-totemwhat name do i have to use when mounting winxp03:30
war-totemthe comp name or the ip?03:30
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zorba64Hergiswi: edit /etc/lilo.conf to show it...what /dev/hd? is ubuntu on?03:30
bimberiwar-totem: the IP (unless you have a DNS setup or an entry in /etc/hosts for your winxp box)03:30
luckyabaanyone know a good howto for embadding an irc client into a webpage?03:30
cevizogluHergiswi: it installs to the bootloader.  be sure you really, really know what you're doing or you could lose all your boot settings03:30
war-totemcan i do this from terminal?03:31
nalioth!tell war-totem about ntfs03:31
smil0nanyone else having Xserver problems after the recent ubuntu updates?03:31
cevizogluluckyaba: I've run an irc client in a web page, it was java based03:31
HrdwrBoByou can run a cgi irc program03:32
HrdwrBoBbizarrely03:32
HrdwrBoBit's called cgi irc03:32
SlicerDicer-luckyaba, there is some on sourceforge look there03:32
war-totemok but, their seperate machines03:32
zorba64smil0n: in breezy? nope...smooth as03:32
smil0nanyone know how i can get xserver back up and running?03:32
hussamnalioth, Seveas: is it true "Initializing modules" fails in breezy?03:32
Epixzorba64,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/213703:33
zorba64smil0n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:33
naliothhussam: i run powerpc ubuntu. my problems are not gonna be your problems.03:33
naliothhussam: Seveas could tell you, probably03:33
IRCMonkeyhmmm... does anyone know of a plug-in that allows gaim or kopete or amsn to have webcam support03:33
smil0nzorba64: thanks. i'll try that now.03:33
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luckyabaevizoglu: would you have an example.. im lost..lol03:34
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zorba64Epix: you are missing the main repo...use this one as a ref http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/213803:34
mik3what's the command to run for reconfiguring xorg?03:34
hussamSeveas: did you get  "Initializing modules" fails after you upgraded to breezy?03:34
Carpe_LibertatemI have two hard drives, hda and hdb. hda is not partitioned, hdb is partitioned into two fat32 partitions, an ext3, and a swap partition. Windows is installed on hda, and Ubuntu is installed on hdb. After I installed Ubuntu on a partition on hdb, Windows sees hdb as one giant raw disk, and Ubuntu sees the partitions fine.03:35
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zdennismik3, dpkg-reconfigure xorg ?03:35
war-totemnalioth03:35
Carpe_LibertatemWhy is this happening - what can I do to fix it?03:35
mik3zdennis : perhaps, i recall using apt-get for somer reason03:35
war-totemthat script says no usable windows or mac03:35
war-totempartitions03:35
zorba64mik3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:36
zdennismik3, apt-get doesn't reconfigure packages03:36
cevizogluhow do I invert the colors on my screen?03:36
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Carpe_LibertatemAnyone?03:37
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zorba64Carpe_Libertatem: windows cannot read ext3 file systems03:37
Carpe_Libertatemzorba64: Did you read what I posted?03:38
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zorba64yup03:38
IRCMonkeydoes anyone know a plug-in site for any of the following , Kopete, Gaim, AMSN03:38
Carpe_Libertatemzorba: hdb is partitioned into two fat32 partitions, an ext3, and a swap partition.03:38
ickw00t03:38
ickick?03:38
bimberiwar-totem: i think what you're looking for is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba under the heading "Mounting a samba share"03:38
Carpe_Libertatemzorba: Windows sees ALL OF IT, as one raw disk.03:38
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azahidi am new to MEPIS. Can somebody tell me how I can upgrade from MEPIS 3.3.0 to 3.3.203:39
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem: not sure what you mean since you said you installed windows on an unpartitioned device03:39
JairunCalothNever used irc in the shell before03:39
Madpilotazahid: I think you on the wrong channel...03:39
bimberiazahid: er, this is not a mepis support channel03:39
naliothJairunCaloth: it offers more options in a shell03:39
Madpilot*you're, even03:39
azahidsorry03:39
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu: I mean, hda contains a single partition.03:39
JairunCalothnalioth: when you've never used it before it's rather confusing03:39
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naliothazahid: 1: d/l the latest mepis, 2: learn about apt-get03:39
JairunCalothOnly reason I'm in the shell is because x refuses to start03:39
IRCMonkeygood news kopete is working on webcam support03:40
naliothJairunCaloth: i have X and use a console irc client03:40
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JairunCalothnormaly I just use xchat03:40
smil0nzorba64: i got my X up and running again. Thanks for the tip. But why would the update change my previous configuration?03:40
oficina_hello i have a problem with my mouse wifi ... is a USB03:40
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, my guess is your partitioner did not actually create the FAT partitions, OR, windows isn't displaying them unless you tell it to, which I've seen it do iirc03:41
JairunCalothSo... I installed the updates today, and all of the sudden after turning my comptuer back on after the update, my computer won't start X03:41
nalioth_wrknJairunCaloth: tomorrows updates may fix it03:41
budluvaJairunCaloth, check your logs and see why it isnt starting03:41
nalioth_wrknJairunCaloth: it WILL be fixed03:41
budluvaoh03:42
JairunCalothare other poeple experiancing the same problems?03:42
zorba64smil0n: was it a hoary-breezy update?03:42
JairunCalothI'm pretty helpless in the shell, It took me 15 min to figure out how to connect to this irc server03:42
VersedDidn't ubuntu install xchat for you?03:43
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JairunCalothI don't think Xchat will work in the shell03:44
Versedk03:44
smil0nzorba64: it was hoary-hedgehog03:44
JairunCalothI accutally had to boot into recovery mode or something03:44
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budluvawell bitchx is a good shell irc client03:44
zorba64JairunCaloth: xchat-text - IRC client for console similar to AmIRC03:44
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zorba64smil0n: dont know for sure...unless they did some major changes to X in hoary03:45
JairunCalothI don't even know what this client is. I just typed irc and hoped something would run, lucky me I have a shell irc client03:45
budluvaJairunCaloth, apt-get install bitchx03:46
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JairunCaloththis one suits my purposes03:46
bimberiJairunCaloth: you'll be using irssi then03:46
smil0nzorba64: well thanks anyway for the info. i feel better now.03:46
zorba64smil0n: np03:46
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JairunCalothWhen I boot normaly It goes allthe way to where it starts X then it freezes. And my keyboard stops responding completly03:47
LinuxNewbiehello there, how can ubuntu read fat32 and ntfs file system?03:47
kdibbleWould someone be kind enough to tell me which package the manpages for the standard c library are in?03:47
bimberi!tell LinuxNewbie about ntfs03:47
kdibble<linuxnewbie> I know it can read ntfs03:47
cevizogluJairunCaloth: you should try going through the terminals and see if it's displaying any other errors03:48
JairunCalothI can't03:48
zorba64LinuxNewbie: it can read fat32, u need to :sudo modprobe ntfs and then it will read ntfs too03:48
JairunCalothI can't switch terminals, everything locks up03:48
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LinuxNewbiehuh?03:49
LinuxNewbiehow do you do that?03:49
cevizogluJairunCaloth, ctrl-option-F1 does nothing?03:49
JoeLiToHello Ubuntu lovers and soon converts03:49
JairunCalothI rebooted into recovery mode, but I still can't switch terminals. Which makes it really hard for me to fix whatever is going on. Nornally I have #ubuntu and the internet to help03:49
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kdibbleWould someone be kind enough to tell me which package the manpages for the standard c library are in?03:49
bluefoxicycan someone help me rip and re-encode a DVD onto another DVD?03:49
JairunCalothcevizoglu: nope03:50
JairunCalothI can't even get numlock to light up03:50
bluefoxicyI just bought "The Incredibles" and while watching it it flicks the picture on and off because it's going through my VCR since my TV has no audio/video jacks03:50
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zorba64LinuxNewbie: need more info on where your fat32 and ntfs drives/partitions migh be03:50
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HrdwrBoBbluefoxicy: watch it on your PC03:51
cevizogluJairunCaloth: are you in breezy, warty or hoary?03:51
bluefoxicyso I need to -ILLEGALLY COPY- this DVD in a total violation of the DMCA and FUCK UP THE QUALITY to watch it A) on a smaller screen, B) taking up my computer screen so I can't work productively at the same time03:51
Epix_omg, it crashed.. while i was dist-upgrding03:51
HrdwrBoBah03:51
bluefoxicyhang on03:51
bluefoxicyi'm going to flame the MPAA real quick.03:51
zorba64Epix_: more info03:51
HrdwrBoBbluefoxicy: solution: get a TV that's not older than my grandmother03:51
Epix_zorba64: i was using VNC at the time03:51
bluefoxicyHrdwrBoB:  this requires money.03:51
bluefoxicyHrdwrBoB:  I work at best buy.  I used to make $500/pay, now I make $100/pay because my hours have been cut to a few hours a week03:52
IRCMonkeyhow do i make a launcher for kopete (how do i know which is the kopete path)03:52
bluefoxicyand they continue to cut my time03:52
HrdwrBoBooh bugger03:52
bluefoxicyI still think they want to force me to quit so they don't have to pay my unemployment check.03:52
Hergiswi Uh, Grub wants me to give Ubuntu "kernel image", but I don't know what that is. o_O03:52
bluefoxicy(massive labor law violation)03:52
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Carpe_LibertatemBah.03:52
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cevizoglubluefoxicy: you're becoming off-topic really fast here03:52
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war-totemsomeone told me that their was an article on lans in this issue of tux03:53
war-totemwhere is it?03:53
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war-totemim not seeing it03:53
Carpe_LibertatemWhy can't Windows see my FAT partitions on hdb? v_v03:53
Tuxhedohcan anyone point me to an IRC room that might be helpful with noob bash scripting?03:53
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cevizogluTuxhedoh: #bash03:53
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reikiubotu tell reiki about mplayer03:54
itoysookhi03:54
TuxhedohThanks cevizoglu03:54
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem: which steps exactly did you take to creating the FAT partitions?03:54
Carpe_LibertatemJust now I used GTParted to delete the existing FAT partitions, and made a new one.03:54
bimberiJairunCaloth: have you tried a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?03:54
itoysookhow can i add web cam.03:54
war-totemubotu tell war-totem about mplayer03:55
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, what else do you need to know?03:55
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war-totemhaha so cool03:55
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem: not familiar with GTParted, sorry03:55
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JairunCalothhow do I scroll up in this client?03:55
itoysookplease help me. how to add a web cam03:55
drapelykubotu tell drapelyk about mplayer03:55
volvoguyi'm still trying to track down info for my newest Ubuntu convert. is there no DNS server in Ubuntu's main repository?03:55
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, what else can I try?03:55
kdibbleubotu tell kdibble about c library manpages03:56
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, Had a typo, it's GParted.03:56
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drgalaxyhow do I boot my hd ro so that I can fsck.ext3 -c (fix bad blocks)?03:56
HergiswiI'm gonna go try to boot to Ubuntu; brb03:56
JairunCalothbim: going to try that brb03:56
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Epixgawd03:56
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bimberivolvoguy: bind903:57
odatubuntuanyone have any experience with enemy territory?03:57
chavoI only have one getty running when I boot into level 5, is that normal?03:57
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem: making FAT is usually a two-step process for me.  I have to partition the drive for FAT, set the type of partition to FAT, and also run another tool to initialize as FAT03:57
chavoodatubuntu, yes, it rocks03:57
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cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, er, three steps03:57
teeagoohow disable xcomposite?03:57
odatubuntuchavo: i have it installed and it runs but i have no sound03:57
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, So - how do I do that with the tools you use?03:57
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volvoguybimberi, thanks! you'd think they'd put "dns server" somewhere in the description. :)03:57
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, I can't remember the name of the tool offhand03:57
bimberivolvoguy: yw :)03:57
chavoodatubuntu, I think you have to kill esd before running it03:57
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Epixodatubuntu: killall esd03:58
chavoodatubuntu, I run all of my games as a seperate login though03:58
odatubuntuchavo: i tried that command but it didn't do anything03:58
chavoso there's nothing in memory03:58
JairunCalothsays xserver-org is not installed03:58
Epixchavo: what games do you run :P?03:58
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chavomostly enemy territory03:58
cevizogluanyone know how to format a partition as FAT?03:58
odatubuntuepix: do that at the terminal then run et?03:58
bimberiJairunCaloth: did i typo? it should be xserver-xorg03:58
Epixodatubuntu: try it!03:58
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JairunCalothah, I may have written it down wrong03:59
JairunCalothbrb03:59
Epixchavo: yay for et :D03:59
LinuxNewbieX6Xhello im back03:59
chipmunkis there alternative windows media player in Ubuntu in playing yahoo videos?help03:59
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhats the tools that you suggested that i use?03:59
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cevizogluLinuxNewbie, who are you talking to?03:59
LinuxNewbieX6Xread NTFS and FAT32?03:59
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Epixchipmunk: Totem03:59
volvoguynext one. iptables is the best (only?) replacement for ipchains?03:59
chavohalf life 2, jedi knight series, mohaa and sof2 are my favorites03:59
wasiwatuhi there, what's the best way to find help for ubuntu here?03:59
odatubuntuepix: nope i am assuming you should have sound as soon as it starts and i didn't04:00
chipmunkcan it play the video music in yahoo?04:00
Epixwasiwatu: ask a question!04:00
chavoI have america's army also, but haven't tried it yet04:00
HrdwrBoBvolvoguy: iptables is the only thing you can use04:00
rob_pvolvoguy:  ipchains was the predicessor (sp) to iptables.04:00
Epixchipmunk: dunno. try going to the yahoo site and seeing if it works04:00
Epixchavo: for nix?04:00
cevizogluLinuxNewbieX6X, mount04:00
chipmunki did but it doesnt, there was an error. i dont know wat it means..any alternative?04:01
chavowith cedega yes04:01
wasiwatuok, I need help installing my usb wireless card using atmel drivers - i'm getting nowhere with the forums can anyone help?04:01
odatubuntuthis is my error /dev/dsp: Input/output error04:01
odatubuntuCould not mmap /dev/dsp04:01
odatubuntu-------------------------04:01
LinuxNewbiebimberi wants you to know: rumour has it, ntfs is the  ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.04:01
Epixchipmunk: whats the error?04:01
chipmunki forgot... let me see...wait04:01
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Carpe_Libertatem!windowsdrives04:01
ubotusomebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically04:01
volvoguyHrdwrBoB, rob_p, thanks. the latest distro that my former linux guru uses is slackware 9.0. (yes, he's going to like Ubuntu).04:01
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bimberiLinuxNewbie: yes, that's what ubotu would have sent you04:02
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rob_pvolvoguy:  I like it quite a bit!04:02
LinuxNewbieX6Xive open it what should i do with it?04:02
chipmunkit stil entering...how about mplayer?04:02
LinuxNewbieX6Xim kinda new in in linux04:02
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, I normally use fdisk and then mkfs.vfat iirc04:02
Epixchavo: whats cedega?04:03
LuderHey, I'm having trouble with Cedega04:03
cevizoglu!tell Epix about cedega04:03
odatubuntuanyone have any tips?04:03
LuderCan anyone helpe me?04:03
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Epixive been told!04:03
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chavoEpix, it's a fork of wine basically let's you run Windows apps04:03
LinuxNewbieX6Xcould you help me with fstab?04:03
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chipmunko use this application with Netscape, you must use a 4.7x or 7.1 version. Download now.04:03
chipmunkPlease use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 12) <== this is the error04:03
bimberiLinuxNewbie: you need to save the file on your computer and run it.  If you open the file in an editor it has instructions04:04
Epixchavo: free?04:04
dhynehow could it be??????04:04
chavoEpix, wine is free, cedega is not04:04
dhynei dont know how to use it... i need help from anyone04:04
Epix*cries*04:04
chavocedega allows you to play more recent games though04:04
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Luderchavo, i do believe I'm installing a free version of it right now04:05
chavoit's very inexpensive though04:05
Luderif i wasnt having problems... lol04:05
Luderhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4504:05
LinuxNewbieX6Xhow do install http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:05
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LinuxNewbieX6Xpls help?04:05
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chavoyou can get it for free from their cvs, but it doesn't have all of the code there, esp. dx stuff04:05
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Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, how do I use fdisk to partition?04:06
Luderchavo, i see... well, its not working for me anyways04:06
bimberiLinuxNewbieX6X: you need to save the file on your computer and run it.  If you open the file in an editor it has instructions04:06
volvoguyok. last one i think. this new server being built with ubuntu has to play nicely with the existing (old slackware) servers running FreeSWan. it looks like Openswan picked up where FreeSWan left off. is this correct, or is there another/better option?04:06
[CSI] Octane-workhey everyone whatever you do, don't fucking upgrade to preview! LOL :D04:06
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Octanei just completely screwed up my setup04:06
bimberiOctane: lol04:06
Octanehi bimberi04:06
bimberihi04:06
Octaneyou were right04:06
chavoOctane, I'm running it now04:06
bimberino i wasn't04:06
Octanegod im such an asshole04:06
volvoguyOctane, preview is rockin' on my iBook. :)04:07
bimberii was kidding and had no idea (i think you know that) :)04:07
Octanelinux-sources for 2.6.12-8 arent even up04:07
XorlevBah @ IPv6 setup >_<04:07
maze5.10 preview reseted my BIOS04:07
Octanemy nvidia drivers wont even start now04:07
az[a] zelis there a way to edit the fonts QT apps use without installing KDE?04:07
chavo5.10 preview mowed my lawn04:07
mazelol04:07
Xorlevchavo: Yours too?04:07
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, I thought you said it was already partitioned, I think what you need is mkfs.vfat to initialize it as fat04:07
odatubuntuanyone able to help me with enemy territory04:07
intelikeyLinuxNewbieX6X  it's a bash script.....04:08
Carpe_Libertatemcevizoglu, I deleted the partition. :-P04:08
chavoaz[a] zel, qt apps yes, kde apps no. You need kde-libs and base for that.04:08
bimberiaz[a] zel: install kcontrol04:08
Epixwoot, cedega for freeega04:08
intelikeyyou execute it.   LinuxNewbieX6X04:08
mazeodatubuntu: your getting sound in ET?04:08
cevizogluCarpe_Libertatem, if you're not sure how to use fdisk, I would read the man pages and maybe a wiki on it04:08
XorlevMy breezy install took over my cat and installed itsself on it.04:08
odatubuntumaze: nope04:08
cevizoglucya guys, gotta go home04:08
mazemy dog rebooted04:08
volvoguymy breezy eats babies.04:09
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az[a] zelbimberi, won't kcontrol pull in half of KDE?04:09
mazeodatubuntu: I installed but I get no sound04:09
XorlevGood thing is now I can use /etc/init.d/catd stop when the cat is being annoying now.04:09
odatubuntumy breezy swallows04:09
bimberiOctane: I'm disappointed to hear it didn't work for you tho :/04:09
az[a] zelchavo, yeah, it's for lyx-qt specifically, the menu fonts are huge04:09
volvoguy*obligatory family guy reference*04:09
LinuxNewbieX6Xtnx alot men04:09
az[a] zelchavo, so how do I do it? :)04:09
chavoaz[a] zel, try running qtconfig04:09
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bimberiaz[a] zel: not sure, probably, i just know it's recommended way to make skype look half decent04:09
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mazeodatubuntu: you can try this .. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Make_sound_work_with_ALSA_and_Quake3/Enemy-Territory04:10
bimberiaz[a] zel: ... in gnome that is04:10
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bluefoxicyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/uslzJv60.html  Sent to the MPAA's "report piracy hotline"04:10
drapelykwhere is the file to allow universe at?04:11
drapelykI have forgotten04:11
mike23greetings04:11
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spstarruhm why do we have silly dependencies for kubuntu-desktop in -devel04:11
spstarrmdadm is needed for what reason? RAID is a desktop thing these days?04:11
klexdevfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for sound/audio <- what do this mean? it happens after I tried to modprobe snd-azt232004:11
az[a] zelah. that's better :) lyx doesn't look so bad now :)04:11
intelikeydrapelyk "apt-setup"04:11
chavoaz[a] zel, qtconfig worked?04:12
az[a] zelchavo, yep04:12
chavocool04:12
drapelykintelikey thanks04:12
az[a] zeldidn't even have to restart lyx. it "just worked"04:12
drapelykintelikey what is the directory?04:12
az[a] zel... i wouldn't mind a better qt theme though.. something to blend in with clearlooks :)04:12
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ZodiacHello all04:13
chavoaz[a] zel, there are some kde themes that are close04:13
ZodiacWhat p2p programs are you guys using?04:13
drapelykWhat is the PWD for apt-setup?04:13
intelikeyno drapelyk if you just run "apt-setup " it will let you edit the file.      the actual conf file is in /etc/apt/ i think04:14
drapelykintelikey alright thanks04:14
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Zodiacamule?04:14
mazebittorrent04:15
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ZodiacWhat bittorrent client?04:15
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volvoguyZodiac, azureus works great for me.04:15
ZodiacCRAP04:15
ZodiacI thought you would say that04:16
ZodiacMine wouldnt update properly04:16
mazeofficial bittorrent04:16
Zodiac?04:16
bur[n] erZodiac: you don't need the latest azureus04:16
bur[n] erZodiac: you can just use 2.3.0.004:16
masterlokiA got a mistake trying to lauch xmms04:16
bur[n] eror whatever is in there04:16
masterlokiin breezy04:16
bur[n] ermasterloki: quick answer is... get bmp ;)04:17
masterlokiok04:17
volvoguyZodiac, update as in.... upgrade itself? i use the version right from sourceforge and it hasn't failed me yet.04:17
drapelykcan I not install mplayer in ubuntu?04:17
Zodiacall right I will try er again04:17
ZodiacHow did you install it from sourceforge?04:17
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volvoguyZodiac, i don't remember. lemme go look. :)04:18
Zodiac:)04:18
boneehow do i revert to a previous verison of a app04:18
drapelykWhy doesn't mplayer show up in the synaptic Package Mangager?04:18
bur[n] er!azureus04:18
ubotuazureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository04:18
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tritiumyes, you can drapelyk04:18
bur[n] erZodiac: you don't need to do it from sf... it's in hoary-extras :)04:18
Madpilotdrapelyk: do you have the Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?04:18
drapelykprobably not, I ran apt-setup and it asked for my Ubuntu CD04:19
drapelykshould I go ahead and do it?\04:19
odatubuntuanyone know what i need to do with enemy territory?04:19
Madpilot!tell drapelyk about repos04:19
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volvoguyZodiac, i think i just did this - http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php04:19
charles_how do i determine which package a file belongs to?04:19
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christopher_can someone help me install amtel drivers for a usb wireless device?04:20
volvoguyZodiac, there's also a Gnome Bittorrent client (or is that just in Breezy?)04:20
charles_sorry , that's a 'man dpkg' question04:20
tritiumodatubuntu, I believe it's a game.  Try playing it ;)04:20
Madpilotvolvoguy: no, GnomeTorrent is in Hoary too04:20
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odatubuntutritium: kind of sucks without sound04:20
volvoguyMadpilot, i thought so. i think i only used it once. :)04:21
bob2christopher_: is it too late to return it?04:21
tritiumodatubuntu, I'll bet04:21
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Madpilotvolvoguy: all the torrents I try don't seem to work...04:21
Madpilotodatubuntu: try "killall esd" in a command line before you start ET04:22
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volvoguyMadpilot, probably obvious, but you have the right ports open in your firewall right?04:22
odatubuntumadpilot: i tried that i still don't have sound04:22
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Madpilotvolvoguy: I'm not sure, I run Firestarter but haven't done any tweaking of it...04:23
Madpilotodatubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory04:24
odatubuntumadpilot: this is my error /dev/dsp: Input/output error04:24
odatubuntuCould not mmap /dev/dsp04:24
drapelykI can't find mplayer on any of the repositories04:24
bob2ha ha04:24
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bob2drapelyk: yes you can, it's in multiverse04:24
drapelykk04:25
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Madpilotodatubuntu: no idea, but "killall esd" works for most games for me04:25
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boneewhere is the font folder04:26
Madpilot!fonts04:26
ubotuI guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto04:26
Noodlewhat kernel is ubuntu 5.04 using04:26
Madpilotbonee: ^^^04:26
bob22.6.10, the same as it has been using all year04:26
Noodlethanks bob04:27
boneeyea mad04:27
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odatubuntuwhen i go to the multimedia selector esd is my default sink output format04:27
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fakeasdf04:27
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Madpilotbonee: I meant "look above and see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto - which I asked ubotu to show"04:27
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boneeohh ok04:28
boneethankz04:28
SlicerDicerhey does anybody here use marvell chipset?04:28
bob2lots of people have04:28
bob2it seems to be fairly buggy04:28
boneeMadpilot: what is a good x manger04:28
SlicerDicerbob2: do you know what the module is cause the traditional sk98lin does not seem to be it04:28
Madpilotbonee: not sure what you mean by that...04:29
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bob2skge or something04:29
SlicerDicerbob2: it will fizzle out on bootup then finally activate itself as it just did haha04:29
SlicerDicerbob2: its very weird04:29
bob2seems kinda broken in the mainline kernel04:29
boneelike kde, gnome, fluxbox, blackbox04:29
boneewhat is a good one for the best gui04:29
volvoguyMadpilot, that would make all the difference in the world. make sure port 6881 is open and you'll be fine.04:29
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Madpilotbonee: what's wrong with Gnome?04:29
boneehave stuff run on the wallpaper and stuff04:29
bonee i wanna do some crazy stuff04:29
bob2bonee: there is no "best", they're all different04:30
Madpilotvolvoguy: port 6881 - thanks - off to kick Firestarter to life...04:30
bob2you'll never know which one you prefer unless you try it04:30
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mazeHow do you switch between Quake3/ET and the desktop ??04:30
Octanei need help quite frantically. which kernel source should i download for latest preview release?04:30
bob2Octane: why?04:30
Octanebob2: beacuse i need to compile my ethernet card module04:30
bob2Octane: then say that04:30
bob2you don't need kernel source for that04:31
bob2sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:31
Octanei tried with headers04:31
Octanei ln -s /usr/src/linux04:31
Octaneto the headers i need04:31
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bob2what driver is this?04:31
HergiswiI need some more help...Ubuntu just randomly stopped reading my eth0 card, now I can't connect to the internet04:31
Octanebob2: sk98lin, syskonnect gigabit ethernet cards04:32
budluvaHergiswi, lspci see if it lists your ethernet card04:32
bob2Octane: er, I'm pretty sure that comes with ubuntu kernels04:32
bob2Hergiswi: what chipset is it?04:32
bob2budluva: that won't help04:32
HergiswiI have no idea04:32
Octanebob2: it didnt in hoary 2.6.1004:32
bob2Octane: yes, it does04:32
budluvabob2, well if its not listed the module isnt loaded04:32
bob2Octane: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin/sk98lin.ko04:32
bob2budluva: no, lspci output has nothing to do with whether the module is loaded or not04:33
Octanebob2: should i then just modprobe it?04:33
bob2worth a try04:33
intelikeylsmod04:33
Octanebob2: i have it in /etc/modules04:33
bob2they're a pretty shit chipset, tho, so it might just not work at all04:33
Octaneand i tonly works when i load 2.6.10 but not 2.6.12 (preview)04:33
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bob2then file a bug already04:34
Octanei cant even get into kde04:34
bob2then file a bug04:34
Octanesince my nvidia fails too04:34
bob2that sounds more like your fault04:34
bob2you're runing the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?04:34
carlsonhi all... when we put a hard disk with a installed windows xp, for example on another pc with a diferent configuration it doesnt work and we get a bsod.... does it occurs if we do the same with linux/ubuntu?04:34
Octanex.org.log says: "failed to intiailze nvidia kernel module"04:34
Octaneno, just upgraded what i had04:35
Madpilotbonee: for 'crazy stuff' in Gnome, look up gdesklets (or adesklets, I'm not sure what the difference is) I've seen some crazy setups with those...04:35
bob2Octane: you got the driver yourself from nvidia.com?04:35
Octanebob2: no, always had it from a package04:35
bob2oh well04:35
Octanewhen i boot, i see the NVIDIA logo for a split second and get dropped to shell04:35
bob2is it an old nvidia card?04:35
Octaneterminal*04:35
Octaneno, very new geforce04:35
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bob2oh well, file a bug04:35
vanbergeOctane, 6200 ?04:35
Octaneagain, worked in hoary04:35
bob2yes04:35
bob2which means something changed04:35
bob2ergo file a bug04:35
bob2and do it now, release is in 3 weeks04:36
vanbergei have a 6200... and i did exactly what was on ubuntuguide.org04:36
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mazeodatubuntu: check this out .. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28954104:36
vanbergebut im on hoary04:36
bob2ignore ubuntuguide.org04:36
Octanevanberge: what version04:36
vanberge7667 i think04:36
vanbergeOctane, driver version that is04:36
Octanebob2: im trying to get into kde first04:36
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Octanebob2: which linux soruce should i get from kernel.org, doyo uknow?04:37
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Octanei got 2.6.12.604:37
intelikeylol carlson any system with drivers loading specifically for one set of hardware, when placed in another box will give errors.   linux will probably load ok but unless the vidio card and monitor are closely matched you may not have a gui when the new box boots.   same is true for sound.04:37
bob2er04:38
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bob2I don't think compiling is the best solution at this point04:38
bob2I'd really really file a bug right now04:38
Octanebob2: im not compiling it04:38
Octaneim just using the module's installer04:39
bob2dude04:39
Octanewhich needs the source code and headers04:39
bob2how could that *possibly* work?04:39
Octaneit takes two seconds, just makes mrproper04:39
bob2no04:39
Octanethey have an autoinstaller04:39
bob2that will not work04:39
bob2at all04:39
bob2no04:39
chavoOctane, apt-get install linux-headers04:39
Octaneit has worked for every kernel that i have04:39
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bob2install the correct headers like I told you to before04:39
bob2then you compiled messed up kernels without modversion magic04:39
vanbergebob2, i think he is right... ihad to get source04:40
Octanedude, i need source for my module trust me04:40
vanbergethe installer prompts you04:40
bob2wtf04:40
bob2I'm sorry, you cannot compile a driver for your 2.6.10 kernel against 2.6.12.604:40
bob2it does not work like that04:40
chavoall you need is the headers04:41
Octaneim reading the README and it says required: "linux source codes04:41
reikiouch... install mplayer plugin for mozilla and now firefox crashes :)04:42
vanbergeOctane, i dont remember how i got it... but in my /usr/src/ directory, there is 2.6.10.tar.bz204:43
Octaneright thats cuz you used a pkg04:43
mazeodatubuntu: I got it working now ... had to change in the profile /dev/dsp for /dev/adsp and run the game as root04:43
vanbergeOctane, are you just having problems finding the src for your kernel?04:43
Octanewell for starters04:44
Octanethat and nvidia drivers are the two biggest problems04:44
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mazeanyone knows how to switch from a game like quake/ET to the gnome desktop ?04:44
chavoOctane, I compiled the nvidia driver with only linux-headers04:44
vanbergemaze, maybe run it in windowed mode?04:44
packman_ehello people04:44
vanbergemaze, or: ctrl alt f704:44
Octanechavo im trying to compile my NIC module04:44
Octanenot nvidia04:45
intelikeymaze [alt] +[tab]   doesn't work ?04:45
adamhillbob2: so to compile modules should you use -headers or -source packages?04:45
chavooh sorry04:45
mazeintelikey: no04:45
adamhilloctane: sk98lin?04:45
bob2headers04:45
mazevanberge: ill, try ...thx04:45
bob2very very few modules require source, and they are basically buggy04:45
chavomaze, you can run it on a different vty, then switch back and forth04:45
vanbergemaze, try alt tab too04:45
bob2but you need the EXACT headers your kernel had04:45
Octaneadamhill: yes04:45
adamhillha!04:46
Octaneadamhill: !!!04:46
Octanewhat!04:46
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bob2so if you want to use source, you need the same kernel config (from /boot) and the identical kernel source version04:46
Octanebob2:  you need the source for this im telling you dooooooood04:46
adamhillI am looking to compile sk98lin as well04:46
bob2dudes04:46
bob2sk98lin comes with ubuntu04:46
bob2if it does not work, file a bug NOW04:46
Octaneadamhill: its really easy actually but you nee dsrc04:46
Octanebob2: !!!!!! it doesnt :(04:46
mazechavo: whats the hot key to switch between vtys ?04:46
vanbergei saw somebody mention quake 2... does that run under ubuntu?  i heard it got open sourced04:46
Octaneit should work if i just add 'sk98lin' in modules04:46
adamhillbob2: it should show up in lsmod?04:47
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bob2Octane: what does "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | grep sk98" print?04:47
bob2adamhill: not unless it is loaded04:47
bob2Octane: if you ever had to put it in /etc/modules to begin with, something is broken04:47
bob2hotplug should load it04:47
bob2vanberge: it's *in* ubuntu04:47
OctaneBOB04:47
vanbergebob2, im apting it now :-)04:47
OctaneITS ONLY in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5...04:48
adamhillbob2: I am running Breezy and that line returns nothing04:48
Octanebob2: i put it in modules because i compiled it myself :)04:48
Octaneadamhill: yup, me too04:48
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adamhillit *was* in Hoary, but broken04:48
Octanesk98lin does not come compiled with breezy04:48
Octaneyes !!!!! youre right adamhill04:48
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bob2wtf04:49
adamhillso where do we file the bug bob2?04:49
vanbergeapparently i need more than quake2...04:49
bob2bugzilla.ubuntu.com04:49
communicohi, I'm using the sil 3114 raid controller. I'm trying to figure out whether I should be setting this up as a software raid or a hardware raid. what is the difference?04:49
adamhilli was about to ask on -laptop :)04:49
bob2vanberge: yes, you need some data files04:49
vanbergebob2, are those O.S. or do i need a cdrom?04:49
bob2communico: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html04:49
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bob2vanberge: you can download the shareware files for free, you have to pay for the commercial version04:50
Octanebob2: which source should i get then to match the linux-headers-2.6.12-804:50
bob2guess04:50
bob2hint: linux-source-2.6.1204:50
Octane2.6.12.8 is not even out, latest is 2.6.12.604:50
bob2dude04:51
bob2- is not .04:51
bob2important difference04:51
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Octanedoh!04:51
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adamhillwhat does the -8 mean?04:51
madicodeheyas04:51
paulproteus|laptadamhill: Debian revision.04:51
paulproteus|laptadamhill: Also, hi. :)04:51
paulproteus|lapts/Debian/Ubuntu/04:51
adamhillhey paul04:51
paulproteus|laptIt's the distributor's revision of the 2.6.12 kernel.04:52
adamhillare you back in the pancake making business?04:52
vanbergebob2, quake2-data   :-)04:52
paulproteus|laptadamhill: I'm afraid not.  I'm doing more cooking for myself now, though.04:52
madicodeanyone having trouble with the screensaver sice the updates of breezy last night?  The screensaver prefs don't load, and if you run the screensaver it shuts down gnome and reruns gdm?04:52
paulproteus|laptadamhill: No longer in dorms (no on-campus housing here at JHU for juniors or seniors).04:52
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adamhillah04:53
communicobob2: thanks, that was helpful04:53
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adamhillthanks bob204:53
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Octanebob2 is the man04:54
intelikey04:54
vanbergeapparently i am missing something... the package "quake2-data" just installed a doc saying "install by cd or downloading shareware files"04:54
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war-totemwhoever was helping me with my network problem: on a whim i checked networks, and theres my winxp pc04:55
war-totemgod i love ubuntu04:55
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Octanehas anyone else's nvidia drivers failed after a breezy install?04:56
bob2communico: are you being sarcastic? my point was that it's only software raid, so you might as well use the linux stuff.04:56
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madicodei put breezy on fresh, and using the official nvidia drivers fine..04:57
madicodehad to fiddle a little to get it to work but.04:57
derreckI couldn't get dual monitors going.04:57
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klexi have a hp vectra computer with an azt1008 isapnp souncard. After mdprobe snd-azt2320, dmesg gives me this message, devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for sound/audio, what do it mean?04:58
vanbergewould anybody be able to shed some light on how to install quake 2 data files?  i seem to be at a stuck point04:58
derreckBut the driver itself installed and ran fine.04:58
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Octanemadicode: interesting, thanks04:58
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jhenni saved some stuff to my desktop (gnome) and its not showing up there anyone know why?04:58
adamhillyeah, breezy + nvidia worked for be OOTB but it wont come back from a suspend or apci turning off the screen (no clue who's problem it is)04:58
adamhill*for me04:58
bob2vanberge: go download them04:59
mazeAbout switching from games to the desktop .. this utility did the job!!!     gdmflexiserver04:59
bob2vanberge: or google for "linux quake2 howto" ad bear in mind you already have the software04:59
intelikeyjhenn refresh the desktop ?04:59
jhennintelikey: how?04:59
Octanemadicode: did you install breezy and the nvidia drivers didnt work?05:00
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bz0bbob2, you here?05:00
intelikeyright click on it and use the menu maybe ?    jhenn i don't use gnome.05:00
Octanebob's evil twin?05:00
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jhennhow do u refresh gnome desktop?05:00
bz0bwell, can someone tell me how to install my netgear wg511t05:00
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bob2"refresh"?05:01
jhennbob2: i saved stuff to it but its not showing up there05:01
bz0bhey bob2 do you still know where that atheros guide on ubuntu forums is? the one for install madwifi05:01
madicodeyeah at first.  I then had to install gcc3.4, so I could compile the kernel module to match the kernel (i had gcc4 but kernel was compiled in 3.4)..  Then remove all default nvidia stuff, delete the /etc/rc.?/??.nvidia-glx file, and she worked.05:01
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a-l-p-h-aanyone know how to create a taskbar for each seperate monitor?  Currently all my open apps are on one bar.05:01
madicodebut they are working fine now.05:01
bob2bz0b: ubuntu ships with madwifi05:02
bz0byeah, but i need to update05:02
bz0bi am still on 5.0405:02
vanbergebob2, thanks for info... too complicated for me to do tonight... :-/05:02
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madicodeeverything was working fine, until I did the last lot of breezy updates.  screensaver stuffs it up now.05:03
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Octanebob we're about to see if you were right :)05:04
skpl what is wifi05:05
jhenn /join #gnome05:05
danlis there anyway to setup ubuntu or linux in general to be able to access a remote linux machine as if it were a local file system other than nfs?05:05
spstarrwifi is wireless/wireless devices05:05
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bob2sure, linux does lots of network filesystems05:06
bob2why not nfs, tho?05:06
adamhillbob2: what package are modules considered to be in -- linux-image-xxx?05:06
danli don't think the server i am connecting to supports it... when i run mount with nfs it just times out forever05:06
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bob2ones that come with the kernel, yes05:07
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bob2danl: you will need root access on the other end if you want to mount filesystems off it05:07
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danlhmm05:07
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danli see05:07
war-totemwheres the firewall options in ubuntu?05:07
danlguess i will just stick with ssh05:07
bob2there aren't any05:07
bob2war-totem: what are you trying to do?05:07
adamhillOctane: i got a **Compiler Error after the MODPROBE step in the install.log, let me know if you get it compiled :)05:07
war-totemallow azureus to poke through05:07
bob2war-totem: there isn't a firewall at all by default05:08
war-totemweird05:08
war-totemall the ports im testing with azureus are giving NAT error05:08
bob2perhaps you're behind something else that does NAT?05:08
danlbob2: thanks for the quick response05:08
war-totempossible05:08
war-totemthanks bob205:08
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intelikeyif you want a fire wall you have to load iptables and setup rules or use shorewall or the like.05:09
bob2danl: there's no reason someone couldn't do a terrible hack that doesn't require root, but I don't know of one05:09
communicobob2: no sarcasm, it was really helpful ... I'm making a lot of progress now that I have a clearer picture *thumbs up*05:09
war-totemi dont want a firewall though, just thought their was one automatically05:09
ArgetlamQuestion Where Do I switch the mouse type from a usb to a ps2 and is it possible to assign different mouse buttons to new functions05:10
bob2war-totem: there is not05:10
bob2war-totem: if you're behind a dsl or cable modem, tho, you probably have been nat'd05:10
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danlbob2: well im not gonna mess with it, it's my schools cs departmental server, all cs majors have user accounts i just wanted easier access05:10
bob2Argetlam: it should be enough to plug in a ps2 mouse05:10
bob2danl: heh05:10
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bur[n] er!tell kermitjr about java05:10
bob2danl: if they have sftp access, you can use nautilus to browse it05:10
odatubuntuanyone have any succcess with getting sound to work with enemy territory?05:11
jhenni just tried to open a jpg in vlc and then my screen turned yellow05:11
bob2danl: hm, and I think sshfs might let you mount things, too05:11
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war-totemwhy would you do that jhenn?05:11
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jhennwar-totem: just to try it05:11
Argetlambob2 thats what I thought but it doesn't respond coorrectly05:11
danlbob2: thank i'll play with those ideas, if i don't get banned already... was playing with sudo earlier :-05:11
war-totemoh05:11
danl:-D05:11
Argetlamie moving the mouse does do anything but a left click moves the cursor05:11
war-totemanyone read comics here?05:11
bob2Argetlam: perhaps it uses a different protocol; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org05:11
ksmurfHave I said today how great linux (Ubuntu) is.  Thanks to all.05:11
Plazmawar-totem, i make my own comics actually - :D05:12
Argetlamthx05:12
jhennwar-totem: guess ill just restart x05:12
war-totemNO WAY?05:12
war-totemNICE05:12
SuperQksmurf: :)05:12
war-totemsounds good jhenn05:12
Plazmawar-totem, oh yea nothing that cool or famous, i mean its just a hobby  i do05:12
war-totemhow do you view them Plazma?05:12
Plazmamines a web comic so, its just an image on photobucket05:12
war-totemah05:12
war-totemlink?05:12
Plazmawell ill /msg you the link05:12
war-totemkk05:12
ksmurfsorry Q I've been drinking coffee again05:13
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Plazmadid you get that war totem?05:13
Plazmathere05:14
ArgetlamI get xserver-org is not installed and no info is avaiable05:14
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SuperQksmurf: haha05:14
war-totemjust got it now tz05:14
Plazmawar-totem, tell me what you think05:14
SuperQksmurf: yea... I had some caffine insanity this afternoon05:14
Argetlambob2 I tried installing it with apt to say it couldn't find the package05:14
war-totemwill do05:14
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SuperQksmurf: cluster here was freaking out, and the buzz wasn't helping05:14
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odatubuntuanyone have any succcess with getting sound to work with enemy territory?05:14
ksmurfQ :<05:14
bob2Argetlam: you're using warty? or breezy?05:14
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ksmurfQ why?05:15
crimsunodatubuntu: stop esd before playing ET05:15
SuperQksmurf: it's all good, nothing I can't fix05:15
Argetlam5.0405:15
Argetlamhoary I think05:15
bob2Argetlam: really?05:15
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bimberiArgetlam: xserver-xorg (there was a typo)05:15
Argetlamah05:15
SuperQksmurf: heh.. a co-worker and I were going cornholio waiting for this thing to re-balance05:15
bob2Argetlam: oh, my apologies05:15
Plazmaim already starting to like ubuntu, installs alot of packages right of the bat, perfect for my desktop uses05:15
bob2typing at an odd angle here05:15
Argetlamnp05:15
odatubuntucrimsun: i've tried that a bunch of times but get nothing i'm sure that ET has sound as soon as you start it but i don't05:16
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ksmurfQ ouch!  Thank god I'm not in tech.  This thing is a hobby for me05:16
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crimsunodatubuntu: does an OSS app like mp3blaster work?05:16
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ksmurfI finally have my wacom working perfectly with pressure and buttons05:17
Plazmawar-totem, what do you think?05:17
BROKEN_LADDERwhat's a good text-to-speech program for linux?05:17
SuperQksmurf: yea, it's fun tho05:17
odatubuntucrimsun: yea i just tried an mp305:17
SuperQhrm.. I should go home05:17
SuperQenough working for the day05:17
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bimberiBROKEN_LADDER: i've heard of festival but never used it05:18
ksmurfQ...... I'll say.  Because it's a Hobby I love it.  Doing it for a living would kill my passion about it05:18
carlos_Xorlev, hi r u here?05:18
BROKEN_LADDERi'm trying it now..now sound.05:18
Cheetahfoothow do i change the window manager in gnome to windowmaker?05:18
naliothbob2: got a new chair-restraining-device, or are you hot-swapping a drive?05:18
naliothCheetahfoot: first, you need to install windowmaker05:18
odatubuntucrimsun: whats a good command to kill esd05:18
bob2nalioth: heh, eating breakfast05:18
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bob2odatubuntu: pkill esd05:18
Cheetahfootnalioth: it's installed ...05:18
naliothCheetahfoot: then you'll have a choice in your login menu, under "sessions"05:18
bimberibreakfast!05:18
bimberi+10?05:18
odatubuntubob2: after i do that i should launch ET within the same terminal?05:19
bob2odatubuntu: doesn't matter05:19
bob2bimberi: hm, yeah05:19
odatubuntui'll give it a shot05:19
bob2late breakfast05:19
bimberibob2: very :)05:19
danlbob2: do you know if shfs requires anything server side?05:19
bob2it counts as breakfast because it invovles double espresso and vegemite toast, tho05:20
bob2danl: don't think so05:20
bimberimmmm vegemite05:20
sigwhats vegemite?05:20
naliothvegemite rears its ugly head, once more05:20
danlok, i am trying it now... problems connecting i think...05:20
carlos_anybody help, I'm trying to compile some drivers for a modem but after ./configure when I do make I receive some errors I do not understand05:20
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Madpilotsig: Don't ask, trust me ;)05:21
odatubuntubob2: nope nope nope nothing i try works05:21
sigheh05:21
odatubuntuoh well05:21
intelikeycarlos_ the configure exits cleanly ?05:22
war-totemcarlos, what are the errors?05:22
siganyone have a better solution than mplayer-plugin?05:22
bimberisig: we'll let you google for that one, looks like it's a sore point :)05:22
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odatubuntui get this same fucking error everytime05:22
odatubuntu/dev/dsp: Input/output error05:22
carlos_here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2139  . Yes configure ends right.05:22
odatubuntuCould not mmap /dev/dsp05:22
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naliothodatubuntu: vulgar language does nothing to help you05:22
crimsunodatubuntu: cat /proc/asound/modules05:22
war-totemplazma you get that>05:22
Plazmawar-totem, no i didnt05:23
odatubuntunalioth: sorry been working on it for a while  little frustrated05:23
bob2crimsun: does odatubuntu have oss working at all?05:23
war-totemi pm'ed you i think05:23
ArgetlamBRB05:23
Plazmawar-totem, i didnt get it05:23
crimsunbob2: he says he does (I asked him to test mp3blaster)05:23
odatubuntubob2: yes i do05:23
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bob2ah05:24
odatubuntui set everthing up under oss on the system all other sounds and files work fine05:24
odatubuntucrimsun this is what i got05:24
odatubuntu0 snd_via82xx05:24
bob2and yo udid the ol' fuser -v /dev/dsp?05:24
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odatubuntubob2 i'm still really new i don't know anything ol  :)05:24
ksmurfkde has amarok..... what's the "best" one for gnome?05:25
bob2I like cplay05:25
carlos_here is a more complete pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/214105:25
bob2muin and quod libet seem popular05:25
odatubuntuksmurf personally i like quod libet05:25
Plazmawar-totem, just tell me in the room05:25
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odatubuntuksmurf  its nice and simple and scans your folder on startup05:26
crimsunodatubuntu: have you done this? echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss && echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss05:26
odatubuntucrimsun: nope05:26
danlbob2: merci... it is running great!05:26
war-totemhow come i cant pm you?05:26
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war-totemwhat i said was, nice, pirates rock and do you have anymore?05:26
Plazmawar-totem, thanks.. no i have a small portfolio of my hobby artwork i do if you want to see it05:27
carlos_anybody help please05:27
ksmurfthanks odatububtu and bob205:27
war-totemsure05:27
Plazmawar-totem, i dont think you can pm me, but i can pm you.. jus ta sec05:27
war-totemwhy is that?05:27
odatubuntucrimsun: when i do that in the terminal it leaves me with a less then character05:27
Plazmawar-totem, im not sure, but just respond to the room ok?05:28
war-totemok05:28
naliothwar-totem: you need to register with nickserv if you want to PM folks05:28
war-totemi have registered05:28
war-totema few times now05:28
odatubuntuthen i launched ET and well you guess it   nothing05:28
naliothwar-totem: you are not identified atm05:28
crimsunodatubuntu: did you copy and paste exactly?05:28
naliothwar-totem: which is why you can't msg folks05:28
war-totemi /msg NICKSERV REGISTER right?05:29
Plazmashit05:29
naliothwar-totem: no, you /msg nickserv identify <password>05:29
Plazmayou have to identify with nickserv too05:29
war-totemeverysingle time i log in?05:29
Plazmayes05:29
naliothwar-totem: you can have your client do it for you05:29
war-totemah05:29
ksmurfodatubuntu 60 GB to scan05:29
intelikeycarlos_ how old is this package ?     it looks to me like the problem is in the way gcc handles the code.   like it was written for a very earily gcc maybe.      any chance of finding a newer package ?05:29
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Plazmathast true05:29
odatubuntucrimsun: yea just tried it again and after i hit enter i'm brought to the less than character05:29
war-totemhow do i get xchat to do it?05:29
naliothwar-totem: in the server properties dialog05:30
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Clujoserver list.  edit the irc chat selection, find password, etc05:30
crimsunodatubuntu: use tee -a instead of tee then05:30
odatubuntuksmurf: ahh i was just looking for something that scanned my directory when i added new songs so i didn't have to add them05:30
cafuego!info kmail breezy05:30
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ubotukmail: (KDE Email client), section mail, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1905 kB, Installed size: 6188 kB05:30
carlos_no chance, :( in fact it was very difficult to find that package05:30
fusion2ndpc:>05:30
war-totemgot it thanks05:31
ksmurfodatubuntu .... That's what  I want05:31
war-totemnice work plazma05:31
fusion2ndpcis there an easy way to get to a command line run level?05:31
fusion2ndpcwithout having to totally create it :\05:31
Plazmawar-totem, think so? its not the best.. im just kinda starting out.. its fun and a small hobby i do05:31
fusion2ndpcor can I shut down X somehow ?05:31
war-totemno, its great to have a creative hobby05:31
Plazmaa friend wanted me to continue.. so i came up with the pirate comic.. and now ive gotten a lot of minor fanbase (mostly friends, online friends and stuff)05:31
odatubuntuksmurf:  well it does my directory really quick and its the only one i found that will do that05:31
bob2fusion2ndpc: why?05:31
Plazmaand i submittied it to the on campus min paper they do05:31
war-totemsweet05:31
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war-totemthats how its done05:31
fusion2ndpcbob2 to install the latest nvidia drivers05:32
Plazmaand now all of a sudden im doing it for that paper lol05:32
bob2fusion2ndpc: if it's to install nvidia drivers, you don't need to05:32
bob2ha ha ha05:32
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war-totemwhat you taking at school?05:32
bob2fusion2ndpc: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop05:32
Plazmamostly cisco and networkign stuff..05:32
odatubuntucrimsun i put in the command you gave me tee -a    wherever just tee was and it did the same thing05:32
ksmurfodatubuntu .... 6000 songs added so far05:32
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Plazma22 weeks and im done with my BAS05:32
war-totemah05:32
Xorlevfusion2ndpc: Ctrl + Alt + F105:32
intelikeycarlos_ well the question is not ubuntu specific it is a compile error.   you might have someone in #linuxhelp  or #c++   or someplace have a look at the error.05:32
war-totemsweet05:32
fusion2ndpcyeah that drops me to console05:32
fusion2ndpcI'm there already05:32
fusion2ndpcbut xserver is still running05:32
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war-totemso you dont read .cbz and .cbr comics then?05:32
odatubuntuksmurf: i would give that music player a shot if thats a feature you really want05:32
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Xorlevfusion2ndpc: Kill X? killall xorg? /etc/init.d/gdm stop? etc.05:32
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fusion2ndpcbob2 I can get the nvidia drivers installed using synaptic, thats what I did, but I Think tehy are odler05:33
ksmurfI am right now.....05:33
fusion2ndpcbleh typos sorry05:33
Plazmawar-totem, acutally i dont read a lot thats non technical, i just like to draw and stuff.. if i did id try to help you but i cant05:33
carlos_thanks intelikey05:33
war-totemnp05:33
war-totemthe hunt continues...05:33
bob2fusion2ndpc: yes, they're slightly older; did they not work for you?05:33
crimsunodatubuntu: make sure you use tab completion on the /proc/asound files05:33
naliothwar-totem: you want a cbr viewer?05:33
crimsunfusion2ndpc: man runlevel05:33
war-totemyes i do05:33
odatubuntucrimsun: ok that is over my head05:33
war-totemive got tons of comics that need reading05:34
crimsunfusion2ndpc: although you shouldn't be concerned with that05:34
Plazmawar-totem, yea comic book store owners dont take bathes apparently aroun dhere.. there place smells like BO and toilets05:34
chavocarlos_, that driver won't compile with 2,6,x kernels05:35
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chavocarlos_, have you tried slmodem?05:36
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helphi05:36
fusion2ndpchrm05:36
helpi need your help05:36
fusion2ndpcbob2 I got some error message anyways, about my kernel source not being available05:36
fusion2ndpc:\05:36
carlos_no chavo05:37
bob2fusion2ndpc: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)05:37
carlos_slmodem is a command?05:37
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fusion2ndpco.O05:37
bob2I hope these drivers make your desktop fly, tho05:37
chavocarlos_, it's a modem driver that may work05:37
k-0tikhow is breezy badger for those who've tryed it?05:37
naliothk-0tik: rough at this time05:37
carlos_I can get it in apt?05:37
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helpthre was the problem of my ubuntu gaim internet messenger that there was no webcam desplay i need to know whre to find thanks05:38
fusion2ndpcbob2 LOL05:38
k-0tiknalioth oh really? umm i was thinking about tyrying it05:38
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helpplz help05:38
fusion2ndpcbob2 I don't think it will make much of a difference.  I' tell you one thing tho, it seems all laggy05:38
chavocarlos_, yes get slmodem and sl-modem-modules05:38
naliothk-0tik: it's rough, enjoy05:38
fusion2ndpcbob2 its like sluggish or something, draws slowly05:38
carlos_ok chavo, gracias05:38
k-0tiknalioth i hope it gets better by the time it's released next month05:39
helphelp05:39
war-totemhah plazma05:39
Clujok-0tik, Ive experienced no problems at all.   Use rsync and desktop sharing, thats it so far.05:39
naliothk-0tik: it'll be wonderful by that time05:39
chavocarlos_, it should set everything up for you05:39
odatubuntucrimsun: what did you mean by that?05:39
k-0tiki can't wait05:39
fusion2ndpcbob2 got another error, couldn't load nvidia.ko module haha05:39
fusion2ndpc:(05:39
helpthere was a device that can ranthe web cam05:39
bob2fusion2ndpc: there you go then05:40
helpplz help05:40
crimsunodatubuntu: the /proc/asound/... can be confirmed by using tab completion (press tab)05:40
fusion2ndpc'eh?05:40
k-0tikhelp, idunno, check gaim see if its supported, see if you can get drivvers or if its needed05:40
carlos_chavo, lets see05:40
Clujohelp, did you check the ubuntu forums?05:40
chavofusion2ndpc, is the old module still loaded?05:40
fusion2ndpcoh probably05:40
chavoI did that too05:41
fusion2ndpcheh05:41
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fusion2ndpcyou know the command to unload/reload05:41
helphow can find the forums05:41
fusion2ndpc?05:41
chavormmod nvidia05:41
fusion2ndpcwww.ubuntuforms.org?05:41
chavothen modprobe nvidia to load05:42
fusion2ndpcmuahah05:42
fusion2ndpcstartx05:42
fusion2ndpcboom05:42
odatubuntucrimsun: ok i enter the command you gave me then pressed tab and i got a couple of rows of directories05:43
fusion2ndpcheh05:43
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fusion2ndpcits still all shitty05:43
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fusion2ndpcit looks good, the windows drag around ok, but like if I resize them05:43
fusion2ndpcdear god, its all choppy05:44
helpi try05:44
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helpthanks05:44
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odatubuntucrimsun: did that make any sense?05:45
chavofusion2ndpc, did you enable RenderAccel ?05:45
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JairunCalothI'm not sure how I fixed it... but whatever I did, it worked05:46
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bimberiJairunCaloth: was wondering if you'd ever come back :)05:46
JairunCaloth:) got frusterated, had to walk a way for a bit05:47
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bimberii should have warned you how many questions it asks :)05:47
JairunCalothI've run that before05:47
JairunCalothit didn't help05:47
bimberiah, k, what did?05:48
bimberier, sorry "i'm not sure"05:48
helpyes05:48
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helpthere was another way of that05:49
JairunCalothwell, I was in the shell, and I was going to switch to a backup file on my xorg.conf file, but it wouldn't let me rename the .backup file to the xorg.conf file. Then I deleted the xorg.conf file05:49
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JairunCalothit still wouldn't let me rename the .backup file though05:49
socrates32hi05:49
JairunCalothI typed ls and then I noticed this was the directory gdm was in, I ran gdm and here I am05:49
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pr1rhey all05:50
JairunCalothcan X run in runlevel 2?05:50
JairunCalothbecause I suspect I'm still there05:50
bob2of course05:51
bimberiJairunCaloth: runlevels 2-5 are the same in ubuntu05:51
bob2gdm runs in runlevels 2-5 in Ubuntu05:51
BROKEN_LADDERi just compressed a text2speech file of 6 MB to 4 KB with speex and it sounds virtually identical to the original.05:51
JairunCalothhow can I tell what runlevel I'm in?05:51
bimberiJairunCaloth: "runlevel" in a term (2nd figure)05:52
JairunCalothunknown05:52
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bob2JairunCaloth: then you're in 205:53
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helphow can we find gnomemeeting help me05:53
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JairunCalothso something in a higher runlevel is what is makeing X mess up?05:53
helpthanks for your suppurt05:53
benplaut!gnomemeeting05:53
ubotubenplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?05:53
benplautgrr05:53
fusion2ndpchrm05:54
fusion2ndpcI dunno if render accel is turned on or not05:54
fusion2ndpcI'll check xorg.conf05:54
socrates32can anyone help me get my usb mic working?05:54
bob2JairunCaloth: in what was is X "messed up"?05:55
fusion2ndpcoption render accel true?05:55
fusion2ndpcbasically05:55
bob2JairunCaloth: and X running or not will make no difference at all to whether you can rename a file or not05:55
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JairunCalothOn a normal boot X won't start, When it asks if I want to view the debuging info the entire system locks up. I can't get past that screen, and I can't even switch terminals05:56
fusion2ndpchrm05:57
fusion2ndpcI guess i need to reboot it05:57
bob2JairunCaloth: how did you manage that?05:57
fusion2ndpcshall try05:57
JairunCalothI updated05:57
Octaneis there a way to downgrade back to hoary05:57
bob2by deleting the X config?05:57
bob2Octane: no05:57
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geirixhas anybody tryed out edubuntu?05:57
naliothOctane: why do you ask?05:57
JairunCalothno, I was trying to use a backup xconfig when that happened.05:57
adamhillOctane: no sk98lin love? :)05:57
Octanelol05:57
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Octanenalioth: because breezy aint working for me05:58
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naliothOctane: patience. it will05:58
stickybootso uh, this is my first time running linux05:58
Octanewhen will i learn that bleeding edge linux is not a good idea, when05:58
naliothstickyboot: welcome!05:58
stickybootoff the ubuntu live cd ^_^05:58
JairunCalothI still don't have an xconfig file05:58
kevogodstickyboot, Good luck. :-)05:58
stickyboothehe, is kinda cool05:59
drapelyklinux is great, especially the server05:59
adamhilli have all the pieces, but I get a really unhelpful ***Compiler error05:59
kevogodI use it religiously now.05:59
naliothOctane: it will update itself and be fixed05:59
Octanenalioth: okay ill just sit and wait :)05:59
Octanein a terminal05:59
kevogodI am thinking about starting a Linux religion. Any takers?05:59
adamhillI have even symlinked a few different versions of gcc to 'gcc'05:59
naliothOctane: while you wait, update05:59
JaZy84hey guys i need to enable some stuff in the kernel. can i just make the changes i need and not worry about anything else. or will i have to reset everything.. i'm getting the source and headers right meow05:59
regeyaCONGRABULATION05:59
JairunCalothnow it let me rename the .backup file05:59
naliothOctane: you are not limited by the terminal05:59
kevogodWe must worship the Penguin.05:59
Octaneim updating every second to see if someting will start working05:59
stickybootSo, is Fedora much different thean Ubuntu?06:00
stickybooti was going to try that out next06:00
kevogodstickyboot, Fedora is slow and bloated if that is what you mean.06:00
stickybootnever tried it06:00
IcemanV9kevogod: you just violated the 1st commandant :P06:00
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drapelykWhy isn't mplayer steaming content very well?06:00
geekchic9Fedora uses rpms instead of deb files.06:00
Quinthiusstickyboot: probably... completely different package system, different goals as far as target audience..06:00
stickybootbut i have the ISO just sitting there06:00
kevogodIcemanV9, Nah, Distributions are only the churches.06:00
kevogodIcemanV9, I belong to the Ubuntu church.06:01
stickybootheheh06:01
IcemanV9:)06:01
benplautkevogod, Ubuntu !s f0 t3h 133706:01
Octanehas anyone here gotten the sk98lin module to work in breezy?06:01
drapelykWhy isn't mplayer steaming content very well? anyone have better luck?06:01
benplautj/k :P06:01
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stickybootright now im just trying a few different distros out06:01
stickybootseeing wich ones i like06:01
benplautahhhhhhhhhh06:01
benplautno wonder!06:01
benplautmy .trash folder on my jumpdrive was taking 100mb :P06:02
IcemanV9drapelyk: you're on dial-up? ;)06:02
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drapelykhaha, nope, i'm on 3mbit+ Cable06:02
stickybootumm... just a quick noob question.  How do i mount my HDs in the Live CD?06:02
naliothstickyboot: it's gonna take more than a few days to figure that one out06:02
stickybooteh?06:02
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stickybootis that not done easily?06:03
IcemanV9if that's the case, it should be running smooth as silk!06:03
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naliothstickyboot: each distro is different. you'll need to use one for a while and see how linux is06:03
stickybootyeah, i geuss06:03
JairunCalothmy video hardware acceleration isn't working06:04
stickybooti need to be a little more bold and stop just using the live CDs06:04
benplautyup06:04
benplautprecisely :P06:04
benplaut!mount06:04
ubotuwell, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives06:04
stickybootok06:05
stickybootumm06:05
stickybootill try that06:05
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ksmurfis there a way to make an mp3 disk that will play in a car stereo that supports mp3's?06:06
geekchic9!windowsdrives06:06
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically06:06
benplautksmurf, put the mp3s on like you would regular files06:06
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ksmurfbenplaut like a data disk?06:06
stickybootubotu, ill try that06:06
ubotustickyboot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:06
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naliothksmurf: read your documentation, some players have directory issues06:07
benplautksmurf, AFAIK, yes06:07
stickybooteh?06:07
ksmurfnalioth.... np I am dropping them all in one dir06:07
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stickybootoh yeah duh woops06:07
ksmurfthanks06:07
stickybootwasnt watchin the names >_<06:07
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naliothksmurf: check you docs, some of the dumb players want them under the /06:07
Carpe_Libertatem!tell me about windowsdrives06:08
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f_newton!backport06:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backport is see !backports06:10
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f_newtonyo concept1006:10
pawntofourhi everyone06:10
pawntofourhow to install a cam in ubuntu06:10
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Carpe_LibertatemIs there a way I can rename the mounted partitions on my desktop?06:11
f_newton!backports06:11
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports06:11
pawntofourhelp06:11
pr1ri have a question06:11
bob2pawntofour: no need to be annoying06:11
pr1rmy i shuffle06:11
pr1rrecognized by ubuntu06:11
bob2pawntofour: you'd need to explain what sort of camera it is before anyone can help you06:11
pr1rnow how do i go about getting songs on it06:11
pr1r???06:11
pawntofourok.06:11
pr1rty in advance06:11
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pawntofourim using a genius web cam.06:11
pawntofourhow to install a driver.06:12
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pawntofouror is it auto detect driver for my cam?06:13
pawntofourhow do i know it is already installed06:13
klexpawntofour, lsusb?06:13
pawntofourwhat do u mean/06:14
f_newton! extras06:14
pawntofouris it a command line?06:14
uboturumour has it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:14
f_newtondang06:14
f_newton!extras06:14
ubotuwell, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:14
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naliothf_newton: what are you on about?06:15
npfethas anyone here played with texmacs?06:15
klexhow do i start a module every time the computer boots automaticily?06:16
Madpilotwell, that's cool - ET's sound works without me having to fiddle with it06:16
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concept10f_newton: hey, how is it going? havent seen you in awhile.06:16
pr1ranyone know how i can get songs on ipod?06:16
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Carpe_Libertatempr1r, use gtkpod06:16
pr1rtyty06:17
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone have a sources.list they can share for me - I need to have all repositories available. I don't think the one on Ubuntuguide.org would work for Breezy.06:17
communicohey, I've got a raid working, but there's just one problem. I have to manually mount it every time I reboot by going into root terminal and typing mount /dev/sd0 /raid. any ideas about what file I shoot edit so it does this automatically?06:17
pr1rdoesnt matter that its a shuffle does it?06:17
BROKEN_LADDERi just bought on of these06:18
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://reviews.cnet.com/Cowon_iAudio_U2__1GB__Platinum_Black_/4505-6490_7-31129769.html?tag=tab06:18
pr1ri hate apple so i dont know much about it06:18
Madpilot!tell Carpe_Libertatem about sources06:18
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: er, the default is fine06:18
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f_newtonconcept10, no I was robbed at gunpoint outside the panera,,, the little bleep took my laptop as well as other  things06:18
BROKEN_LADDERi'd by the ipod nano..if it supported vorbis.06:18
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: adding random other sources is a recipe for disaster06:18
BROKEN_LADDERscrew 'em.06:18
pr1rlol06:18
geirixsomebody got raid working on ubuntu?06:18
mazecarl4: foresigh linux is very good and has gnome 2.12 if you are looking for an alternative06:18
bob2communico: /etc/fstab06:18
bob2geirix: lots of people do06:18
bob2geirix: or are yo utalking about software raid?06:18
geirixbob2: software06:18
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holycowi looooove the splash screen.  it's funy how it seems to make the time go faster during boot06:19
geirixbob2: have been trying and it doesn't seem to work06:19
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concept10f_newton: seriously?06:19
BlueEaglecommunico: Are you mounting /dev/sd* for raid? I thought raid was /dev/md*06:19
f_newtonlol why does everyone ask that?06:19
f_newtonlike I would lie about a thing like that06:20
f_newtonlol06:20
concept10heh06:20
f_newtonyes... really  seriously...06:20
communicoBlueEagle: ah yes, typo, sorry06:20
BlueEaglecommunico: ;D06:20
f_newtonI was robbed and carjacked... but my crappy car quit on em a half a block down the road06:20
communicogeirix: how many harddrives are you trying to put in the raid?06:20
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geirix2 drives06:20
f_newtonso they left it but took everything06:20
BlueEaglecommunico: But bob2 was absolutely right about the file needing to be edited being /etc/fstab06:20
concept10I thought you might have been helping the 'refugees' or something06:21
f_newtonlol yeah more like they wuz helpin themselves06:21
concept10lmao06:21
BlueEaglegeirix: Did you compile raid support into the kernel or as modules? Did you remember raidstart?06:21
bob2it's funny how people are so unwilling to use the term "refugee" there06:21
geirixyes06:21
f_newtonI just put this quad xeon together so that I could check my email06:21
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BlueEaglegeirix: Did you set the partition types as raid?06:21
geirixyes06:21
geirixeverything by the book06:22
communicobob2: BlueEagle: I added "/dev/md0 /raid ext3 defaults0 1" to fstab. do you think that should do it?06:22
concept10holycow: are you talking about the breezy live cd?06:22
geirixjust won't work06:22
BlueEaglegeirix: How does your /etc/raidtab look?06:22
f_newtonits the only server I ave up so far06:22
Carpe_Libertatembob2, when I try to install w32codecs, I get: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:22
Carpe_LibertatemThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:22
Carpe_Libertatemis only available from another source06:22
Carpe_Libertatemoops06:22
bob2communico: if those are the write values, yes06:22
concept10bob2: I just cant spell evacuee06:22
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: yes, of course, it's not in ubuntu and never will be06:22
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: just download it and install it with dpkg06:22
ds[de] just a quick question, is it possible to run quake 3 under ubuntu?06:22
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BlueEaglecommunico: Might want to check raid at every boot so defaults 1 1 would probably be better.06:23
Octanewhat package contains nvidia drivers?06:23
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: w32codecs are in hoary-extras repo06:23
[Chameleon] What happened to /etc/modules.conf in Breezy?06:23
Carpe_Libertatemmaddler, is there a breezy-extras?06:23
bob2ds[de] : sure06:23
BlueEagleoctane: nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common06:23
communicothanks guys, I'm going to go reboot ...06:23
thoreauputic!tell Carpe_Libertatem about codecs06:23
Carpe_Libertatemerr06:23
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bob2Octane: linux-restricted-modules06:23
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: not yet06:23
BlueEagleoctane: hint: apt-cache search nvidia06:23
ds[de] bob2: great, any idea where to get more informations on that subject?06:23
luckyabaanyone know how to sign jar files?06:23
BlueEagleluckyaba: print them out on paper and using a pen? :p06:24
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[Chameleon] !breezy modules06:24
ubotu[Chameleon] : I give up, what is it?06:24
IcemanV9will wifi-manager (or similiar ap)  be in the next release (Breezy)??06:24
bob2ds[de] : ID?06:24
[Chameleon] !modules06:24
ubotu[Chameleon] : Did you get hit by a windmill?06:24
luckyabaBlueEagle: god i wish it was that easy06:24
IcemanV9*/ap/app06:24
bob2IcemanV9: networkmanager is in breezy06:24
BlueEagleluckyaba: :)06:24
stickybootok, one more noob question06:24
IcemanV9c00li0. :)06:24
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ds[de] bob2: lol well, probably a good idea I'll check it out tnx :)06:24
stickybootwhat are some other popular well developed distros besides fedora and ubuntu?06:25
bob2stickyboot: Debian06:25
stickybootoh yeah06:25
bob2stickyboot: not for the faint hearted or unwilling to learn, tho06:25
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stickybootthat one is tough?06:25
BlueEaglestickyboot: Mandriva and Linspire have come a long way too.06:25
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stickybootok cool, ill look at those06:26
stickybootany others?06:26
naliothstickyboot: libranet06:26
BlueEaglestickyboot: Then you've got gentoo which has got support almost as good as ubuntu. :p06:26
thoreauputicstickyboot: some people have had good luck with mepis, I believe06:26
bob2libranet appears to be unmaintained06:26
bob2mepis appears to have poor support06:27
BlueEagleWell, I'm calling it the night. Be sure to tip your waitress.06:27
f_newtonbob2, I was not really impressed with mepis due to its total immersion in kde06:27
thoreauputicbob2: I believe the founder of libranet died recently ...06:27
stickyboota few sources said that Ubuntu was one of the better ones to learn on, although i have no way to verify this06:27
bob2stickyboot: that's true06:28
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f_newtonstickyboot, ubuntu is really a pretty good distro06:29
concept10stickyboot: you may learn on any distro, ubuntu has good resources for you to do so06:29
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luckyabaery true06:29
luckyabavery true06:29
stickybootcool06:29
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stickybooti actually did try fedora out first on my thinkpad, but the sound didnt work06:29
stickybootso i gave up06:29
stickybootand moved to ubuntu06:29
ben__can anybody help me dual boot between ubuntu on an IDE and windows on an SATA?06:29
Octanei cant even friggin paste, troubleshooting this crap is such a bitch06:30
ben__using grub...06:30
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stickybootok, well, im going to get this other computer back together so i can actually do a real install :p06:32
stickybootlater06:32
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Octaneanyone here having problems with breezy and nvidia drivers?06:33
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volvoguyOctane, i had to use nvidia's installer on breezy.06:33
benplautOctane, i wouldn't doubt if close to everyne did :P06:33
hello1123does anybody know how i can get my broadcom 4306 wireless card working ?06:34
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Octanewhy is it that i read about problems people had AFTER i take the same steps they did :)06:34
Octanevolvoguy: you recompiled your kernel with gcc 3.3?06:34
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concept10hello1123: use ndiswrapper with your windows driver06:34
ubuntuI'm running ubuntu from live cd.  anyone know if I can access my hard drive from it?06:34
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volvoguyOctane, no... you just have to use a specific gcc version for compiling the driver (or interface or whatever it is)06:35
bz0bubuntu, yes, you just mount it06:35
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ubuntusorry, I am new to this. How do you do that?06:35
Octanevolvoguy: can you be more specific?06:35
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volvoguyOctane, hmm.... maybe.... it was one of those late night, half asleep kinda things. :) gimme a minute.06:36
naliothvolvoguy: i see you've survived your breezination06:36
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bz0bfor example, do this, mkdir /mnt/hd && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hd && cd /mnt/hd06:36
asdxwhere the ubuntu people takes the money for making and shipping cd's, etc?06:36
ubuntuI'll try it. thanks06:36
aviHowdy!  Just installed Ubuntu on my HP laptop (pavilion zt1000), and I'm trying to install a package to enable the 'hotkey' buttons on the top of the keyboard...06:37
volvoguynalioth, yep! installed fine. i'm hoping to pick up a usb wireless thingie this week.06:37
bob2asdx: services06:37
bz0bvolvoguy, NOOOOOOOO!06:37
naliothvolvoguy: keep me advised as to what you find (and if it works) please06:37
drapelykavi... bleh06:37
Quinthiusasdx: the founder of ubuntu is like a multimillionaire or something, and i'm sure they have donations and such too06:37
drapelyklol06:37
avi... the instructions tell me to make install, but I'm not having any luck with that.06:37
asdxbob2: services?06:37
volvoguybz0b, ?06:37
bob2Quinthius: more than that06:37
bz0bvolvoguy, don't get usb wifi06:37
asdxI see06:37
drapelykavi "sudo make install06:37
bz0bvolvoguy, it sucks! hard core~!06:37
volvoguybz0b, what do you suggest?06:37
bob2Quinthius: and donations only go towards ubuntu itself (ie bounties)06:37
avifrom the terminal prompt?06:37
drapelykyeah06:37
Quinthiusbob2: what other sources of funds are there?06:37
bz0bvolvoguy, get a netgear wg511t06:38
bob2asdx: like support and customisations and stuff06:38
bob2Quinthius: ^^06:38
asdxcool06:38
drapelykavi I think anyway06:38
aviI did that: got -- sudo: make: command not found.06:38
bz0bvolvoguy, very compatible, and good if you want to aircrack too06:38
volvoguybz0b, and that'll plug into my ibook? :-P06:38
naliothbz0b: what would you prefer one to use, if they dont have pcmica slot?06:38
bob2avi: sudo aptitude install build-essential06:38
drapelykavi hmm... lol I suck thanks bob206:38
avithanks, bob2, I'll try that.06:38
volvoguythe dlink dwl-122 (or something like that) seems to be the popular choice.06:39
Quinthiusbob2: i meant that out of real curiousity btw :) how are all the costs covered aside from shuttleworth and donations?06:39
bz0bvolvoguy, nalioth, then get internal wireless!06:39
Octanevolvoguy: mind telling me how you got nvidia to work?06:39
bz0blike minipci06:39
bz0bif that isnt an option, then i guess usb as last resort06:39
avioh duh... I can't believe I tried to make without gcc... LOL06:39
bz0bcan you not get the apple wifi card working on ubuntu06:39
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naliothbz0b: are you familiar with ibooks?06:39
volvoguybz0b, internal wireless doesn't have linux support.06:39
bz0bnalioth, nope06:39
volvoguyOctane, i'm working on it. i promise. :)06:39
bob2Quinthius: from services stuff; I don't know how much of what I've heard is confidential,s o I can't say anymore, sorry06:39
naliothbz0b: the chip in the new ibooks is not usable under linux06:40
bz0bvolvoguy, my friends dell latitude d600 does06:40
aviI'm surprised it wasn't already installed on the basic install.06:40
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Octanevolvoguy: thanks man06:40
bz0bnalioth, ah, i see06:40
adamhillOctane: on BreezyI just i typed nvidia into Synaptic and installed the package from there06:40
FlyingSquirrel31Is gnome 2.12 going to make it into breezy?06:40
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naliothbz0b: ibook users need a USB dongle06:40
adamhill*packages06:40
naliothFlyingSquirrel31: yes it is06:40
Octaneadamhill: the fact that you were in synaptic shows that you didnt have the nvidia problem im having :)06:40
bz0bnalioth, ok, well just get a dwl g122 then06:40
Quinthiusbob2: not sure what you mean by services06:40
FlyingSquirrel31cool, can't wait.06:40
bob2FlyingSquirrel31: yes, of course06:40
ubuntubz0b: would I mount the hard drive from the terminal?06:40
adamhilloh hold on there06:40
bob2Quinthius: e.g. people can pay canonical to make a custom version of ubuntu for them06:40
bz0bubuntu, yes :P if that isnt too hard now06:40
Quinthiusbob2: ahhh06:40
bob2Quinthius: or pay to have some particular bug that they really really care about be fixed06:41
avido I need to install X11, or should that already be installed?06:41
bob2Quinthius: or to port it to their brand new type of computer06:41
ubuntuI'm just getting started with linux, I've no past experience06:41
bob2avi: awhat are you doing?06:41
bz0bavi, do you have GUI?06:41
aviyes06:41
bz0bthen you already have X1106:41
aviThat's what I thought.06:41
ubuntuI'll play with it. thanks anyway06:41
aviI just didn't know how to get to the configuration of X11.06:41
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bob2avi: what are you compiling?06:41
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volvoguyOctane, i think this is it.... before you run the installer, do a "CC=gcc-3.4" and then "export CC".06:42
avisince when I was looking up how to tailor Ubuntu to my laptop, the page suggested a bunch of different modifications...06:42
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volvoguyOctane, i think that's right.06:42
avi...X11 being one of them.06:42
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bob2avi: I'd be very very careful reading pages like that06:42
bz0byes06:43
laszloim trying to do a ./configure but it says i dont have the x includes. What packages do i need?06:43
adamhillOctane : linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-686,  nvidia-glx-* and (oddly enough - i think this came from an upgrade) xserver-xorg-driver-nv06:43
aviWell, I take everything I read on the 'net with a grain (or two or three) of salt... ;)06:43
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aviStill, I'd like to be able to get the extra buttons working at the very least.06:43
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Octanevolvoguy: thanks man06:44
naliothlaszlo: install "xlibs-dev"06:44
volvoguyOctane, anytime. :)06:44
thoreauputiclaszlo: probably xlibs-dev06:44
aviAlso, does Ubuntu or GNU/Linux support Hibernation on laptops, or is that strictly a Microsoft thingie?06:44
Octanevolvoguy: which source did you get?06:44
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thoreauputicnalioth: heh06:44
Octanei have the wrong source06:44
volvoguyOctane, i have an older card. i needed 716706:45
whyameyeavi, ubuntu supports Hibernation. It can be iffy apparently on some machines. All I know is that it works perfectly on my HP06:45
Octanevolvoguy: no i mean which linux source did you get06:45
klexwhen i log in to gnome my sound get very slow and wierd, what can i do to fix this?06:45
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adamhillavi: yes, but support for given laptop is a highly variable thing06:45
scott1967hi guys- i've never used linux and my buddy gave me a ubuntu disk, so i loaded it. have no idea how to install a cdburner program or dvd burner program or even where to get one?06:45
volvoguyOctane, oh.... do a "uname -r" and see what kernel you're running. you have to rebuild the thing every time there's a kernel upgrade.06:46
pajamashould I try a dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, or a fresh install would be better?06:46
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naliothpajama: the point of debian, is never to have to 'install' the OS again06:46
bob2scott1967: you already have one06:46
thoreauputic!tell scott1967 about docs06:46
aviYes, that's why I looked up specific instances on the web of people who installed Ubuntu on an HP laptop pavilion zt1000.06:46
bob2scott1967: insert a blank cd06:46
whyameyescott1967, I recommend you look in the Synaptic Package Manager for K3b.06:46
Octanevolvoguy: ah crap i forgot i was booted into 2.6.10 brb06:46
naliothpajama: a dist-upgrade is the expected path of upgrade06:46
Octanethanks a millin youve helped a lot06:46
linux-noobhello people!!06:47
muepscott1967: why need cd burner if you already have the disk?06:47
aviHmmm... okay, gcc is installed, but sudo make install still crapped out.06:47
linux-noobcan somebody pm me, i need to ask something about ubunto installation06:47
scott1967found k3b, but how do i start it06:47
whyameyeavi,  I use an HP ZT1260. Might be similar? Anyway, ubuntu runs perfectly on it.06:47
naliothlinux-noob: ask in here06:47
linux-nooboki06:47
volvoguynow that i helped someone with compiling something, can someone tell me if there's a non-ubuntu dev channel somewhere that can help with general compiling problems?06:48
linux-noobif i install the ubunto, what will happen to windows xp currently installed on it?06:48
naliothscott1967: applications > run application > k3b <enter>06:48
whyameyescott1967, you already installed k3b? Then type 'k3b' in a terminal window.06:48
bob2volvoguy: here06:48
naliothvolvoguy: sure thing06:48
volvoguyok. you guys asked for it. :)06:48
bob2laszlo: what are you trying to compile?06:49
volvoguynalioth, i'm on my intel box atm.06:49
mueplinux-noob: you need to make a partition or two for linux06:49
aviwhyameye: yes, but can you use your extra buttons?06:49
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laszloi think i got it06:49
laszlosvn of amarok06:49
volvoguynalioth, yeah... just lots to type. one sec.06:49
pajamanalioth: thanks06:49
ksmurfI couldn't get gnomebaker to work but k3b will.... Do permissions have something to do with it?06:49
linux-noobso i have to reformat the harddisk again???06:49
laszloon a fresh breezy install with no dev packages06:50
mueplinux-noob: yes, at least partially06:50
bob2laszlo: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok06:50
bob2laszlo: sudo aptitude install build-essential06:50
bob2laszlo: all done06:50
whyameyeavi, the extra buttons don't work. I know there are apps to make them work, but I haven't looked into it.06:50
bob2laszlo: well, all ready to compile it, anyway06:50
volvoguythere's this glove, designed for gaming - a "stimulus P5 glove". it's discontinued now but there are a lot of musicians using it as a controller for midi related things.06:50
laszlobob2: whats that all abotu06:50
whyameyeavi, when I had WinXP on this machine, I never used the extra buttons, so I just didn't miss them. The volume, mute, and screen brightness buttons do work.06:50
avithe pages were good at telling what they did to configure their Linux HP laptops, but they weren't so good for people who've never compiled stuff or recompiled kernels before.06:51
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linux-noobif i have a partition already, for example a drive d, and on the drive c is windows xp, can i make the other drive linux????06:51
bob2laszlo: it installs all you need to build it06:51
volvoguythe code is quite old i think. configure ran fine but i get all kinds of errors when i run make.06:51
bob2you do not need to recompile kernels to work on HP laptops06:51
bob2linux-noob: yes06:51
aviOkay, it appears that the volume, mute buttons work... I don't have screen brightness buttons, but I do have buttons on the front for CD music.06:51
mueplinux-noob: yes, but know that the d drive will get erased if you decide to use it06:51
holycowalso, you can buy them with ubuntu preinstalled i understand, or soon will be06:52
bz0bvolvoguy, so is the new ibook good? i really want to get the 14inch with 512ram, maybe more, but i dont know how to compare an ibooks memory usage or processor usage with a pc06:52
Dr_WillisMy pooor Turion Based laptop - dose not like the default kernel very much. :(06:52
holycowwhere everything will work i hope06:52
winnernew iBook? Intel?06:52
bob2Dr_Willis: please file bugs06:52
aviPlus, I have a glowing blue buttong that turns wireless on and off.06:52
bz0bno06:52
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bz0bppc06:52
winneroh06:52
Dr_Willisbob2,  its a bug with the kernel :P being fixed in the next releases. (or so ive read)06:52
bob2bz0b: they're pretty good linux machines, aside from having non-working wireless06:52
bob2Dr_Willis: is it in the ubuntu bugzilla?06:52
linux-noobhow large disk space to install all i need for linux and other applications?06:52
bob2linux-noob: 1.8GB06:52
thoreauputicholycow: wireless (airport extreme) won't work06:52
volvoguybz0b, i think they're a great deal for the quality of the machine.06:52
winnerwireless on ppc doesn't work?!06:52
laszlowhats aptitude?06:52
bob2winner: airport extreme does not06:52
mueplinux-noob: how big is your hd?06:52
Dr_Willisbob2,  its a kernel bug sae mention of it on the kernel mailing list i think.06:52
holycowthoreauputic, on the hp laptops?06:52
bob2laszlo: another package management tool06:53
naliothwinner: excuse me?06:53
linux-noob20GB06:53
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whyameyeavi, my machine also has the CD control buttons on the front, and these don't seem to operate currently. I don't have built-in wireless.06:53
winneri see.06:53
winnerthat sucks.06:53
bob2Dr_Willis: please do file it for ubuntu then, or it's unlikely to get fixed...06:53
holycowi thought that was a mac thing06:53
thoreauputicholycow: ah sorry I misread06:53
avihmmm... bummer.06:53
bz0bdo you think any developers will soon come out with some linux compatible drivers for it06:53
bob2linux-noob: no, 1.8GB06:53
holycow:)06:53
naliothholycow: it's a broadcom thang06:53
bob2bz0b: not soon06:53
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winnernalioth: no i was referring to what bob2 said.06:53
linux-noobok thanks06:53
kevin06Is it possible to use update-rc.d to list startup scripts in the same manner as chkconfig?06:53
bz0band by the way isnt the mac os really close to like a linux box, set aside the windows manager06:53
mueplinux-noob: the minimum for ubuntu is around 2 G but probably about 5 G would be more reasonable06:53
bob2kevin06: no, use ls06:53
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bob2bz0b: not really06:53
bz0bbecause in my experience not much diffrence in a freebsd box then a linux box06:54
naliothbz0b: it is a *nix, yes06:54
bob2bz0b: they both have something unix-like underneath, so somethings are similar06:54
aviwell, thanks for the help, everyone!  At least I now have gcc and such installed, so that's a Good Thing (TM).06:54
avicya later!06:54
volvoguybz0b, it'd be nice to see something like ndiswrapper, but i doubt it'll happen (even though OS X is another *nix-like OS.06:54
bz0bdoes it have tar?06:54
bz0bhehe06:54
bob2bz0b: it has bsd tar06:54
asdxu have to listen this xDD it roxxx xDDD :D:D:D http://www.di.fm/aacplus/chillout.pls06:54
bz0bcool06:54
bob2and probably gtar06:54
bob2I forget06:54
bz0bhow can i compare 512 ram of a ibook to a pc ram06:54
linux-noobdo i have to specify what drive to install linux????06:54
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bob2bz0b: the same06:55
mueplinux-noob: yes06:55
bz0breally?06:55
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bob2bz0b: mac os X really does need 512mb, tho06:55
bz0bsomeone said it uses it diffrently06:55
bob2linux-noob: of course...06:55
bob2bz0b: that person would be confused06:55
volvoguybz0b, i'd get as much as you can afford.06:55
holycowhttp://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/deskbar-screencast.html  <-- check this preview of gnome 2.1206:55
holycowneato06:55
bz0balright06:55
bz0bi want a gig, but maybe 76806:55
linux-noobill be back, ill try to install this on my other pc...thx a lot06:55
chizangdumb question: what does it mean to be "identified" in the context of irc? i'm trying to join #python and it says i must be identified to join the channel06:55
volvoguybz0b, you can get a gig for about $130.06:55
bob2bz0b: students get nice discounts from apple, if you know one or are one06:55
mueplinux-noob: good luck06:55
bob2chizang: /msg nickserv help06:55
bz0bbob2, i am a high school student :-)06:56
bob2chizang: you need to login to the irc server, more or less06:56
naliothbz0b: you can also go to apple.com/store and click the red tag on the bottom right06:56
chizangbob2, ok, thanks06:56
Madpilotchizang: type "/msg nickserv help" for registration info06:56
bz0bnalioth, how are the iMac G5s?06:57
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bob2they're very shiney06:57
volvoguyso... back to my compiling problems. one of the first errors is about a missing usb.h. would that be in the libusb-dev package?06:57
bz0bhehe06:57
bob2volvoguy: what are you compiling?06:57
drapelykchizang: so no one can steal your nickname06:57
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bz0bI actually like the mac os, i think it is pretty nice06:57
naliothbz0b: in what way?06:57
volvoguybob2, oh man. i'm not typing all that again. lol.06:57
bytefoohow do i make an application start when gnome starts06:58
volvoguythere's this glove, designed for gaming - a "stimulus P5 glove". it's discontinued now but there are a lot of musicians using it as a controller for midi related things.06:58
bz0bnalioth, like, firstly, the gui gets me, secondly, the user-friendlyness of it, and thirdly, that i get a full bash terminal when i want to go scipting06:58
bob2volvoguy: right, so you're compiling some userspace usb driver?06:58
volvoguybob2, apparently.06:58
bob2bz0b: system -> preferences -> session06:58
WMCoolmonhey, does anyone know if its better to start fresh with a kubuntu breezy install or to simply upgrade?06:58
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naliothbz0b: the imac G5 works great06:59
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bytefooand secondly, how do i reinstall a piece of hardware06:59
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WMCoolmoni'm starting from an ubuntu-hoary install06:59
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bz0bbob2, why did you tell me that?06:59
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robotgeeknalioth: even sound?06:59
bob2bah06:59
bob2bytefoo: system -> preferences -> session06:59
bob2bz0b: because I suck06:59
bz0bbob2, haha06:59
bob2bytefoo: "reinstall"?06:59
bytefooyeah06:59
bz0bbob2, no, you are the most helpful in here06:59
naliothrobotgeek: are we talking ubuntu on the G5 imac or the iMac G5 in general?07:00
bob2bytefoo: what are you hoping to acheieve?07:00
bytefoomy ipw2200 is detected in the device manager, but doesn't show up in the network configuration07:00
scott1967ok-got to k3b, but now it wants cdrdao package!!!07:00
bz0bubuntu on it07:00
bytefooand i believe i removed it somehow at some point07:00
bytefoobut i forget how07:00
bob2bytefoo: then there's nothing to reinstall07:00
bz0bnalioth, how would it be? faster then a intel 3.0 ghz?07:00
robotgeekubuntu07:00
thoreauputicscott1967: right - install it07:00
bob2bytefoo: is the module loaded?07:00
whyameyescott1967, did you install K3b using Synaptic?07:00
bytefooooh no its not...07:00
bytefoothat's odd...07:00
thoreauputicscott1967: it should really be automatic, but something is wrong withthe dependency check07:00
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scott1967yes07:01
WMCoolmonhmm, does anyone know what this means then? " FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap"07:01
bytefoowhy didnt it start o_O07:01
omphttp://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=595   < read that07:01
bytefoooh snap, bad ieee80211 version :X07:01
bytefoohow the hell...07:01
bz0bbut i need to be on the go, and with up to 6 hour battery life, that can do me good07:02
volvoguywould throwing the output of configure into the pastebin help at all?07:02
kevin06Is chkconfig and service part of a package in the Ubuntu repos, and if so, what is the package name?07:02
omp"HP to ship Ubuntu PCs, serious about Linux"07:02
WMCoolmonanyone, Ubuntu->Kubuntu or Enlarged logical partitions help?07:02
bob2kevin06: no, this is not redhat07:02
bz0bnow what if i could afford, i would get is like a 17 or even 15 inch powerbook07:02
thoreauputicbz0b: "up to" is the operative phrase07:02
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bob2bz0b: no apple laptop will give you six hours07:02
bob2bz0b: not without extra batteries07:02
thoreauputicbz0b: but battery times are good07:02
bob2bytefoo: ubuntu kernel?07:02
scott1967can not find cdrdao07:03
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bytefoo2.6.10-5-68607:03
bz0bbob2, yeah, but still better then my 1 hour 30 min max compaq presario 210007:03
thoreauputic!info cdrdao07:03
bob2bytefoo: my x40, with the extended-life battery could get 5.5 hours with dim screen and no wireless07:03
ubotucdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB07:03
bytefoobut i had to build my own ieee80211 i remember07:03
bob2it's in universe07:03
bob2someone has to walk scott1967 through that07:03
bob2bytefoo: wtf07:03
thoreauputicscott1967: in the universe repository07:03
bytefoobecause the madwifi drivers that come with hoary are mad old :X07:03
bytefooyeah07:04
bob2bytefoo: ipw2200 does not use madwifi07:04
bytefoo...crap :|07:04
bytefooi know07:04
WMCoolmondoes anyone have any exp or advice regarding ubuntu->kubuntu07:04
WMCoolmon?07:04
bytefoothis is for a pcmcia card07:04
robotgeek!tell scott1967 about repos07:04
thoreauputic!tell scott1967 about sources07:04
bytefoonot me WMCoolmon07:04
bz0bfor pcmcia card, i would recommend the netgear wg511t07:04
volvoguyWMCoolmon, what kind of advice?07:04
bytefoothe one i have is great07:04
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bytefooDWL-G65007:04
scott1967oh my- seems there is more to this than i thought07:04
linux-noobhello again ^_^07:05
WMCoolmonvolvoguy: I'd like to know if there's any benefit to starting fresh07:05
thoreauputicscott1967: it's not hard really :)07:05
bytefoodoes passive monitoring, packet injection, and can be modded for an external antenna07:05
bytefooall for $30 :X07:05
linux-noobi just want to clarify something???07:05
volvoguyWMCoolmon, compared to just dist-upgrading?07:05
WMCoolmonvolvoguy: yeah07:05
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thoreauputicscott1967: you just need to change some lines in your sources.list07:05
whyameyescott1967, I'm surprised cdrdao didn't download and install automatically. any case, have you done a search for cdrdao in Synaptic?07:05
volvoguyWMCoolmon, personally i'd say no, unless your current install is really screwed up.07:05
linux-noobin the partition part of the installation, is the primary the drive c and the logical is the drive d????07:06
thoreauputicwhyameye: he needs niverse, which he evidently doesn't have yet07:06
WMCoolmonvolvoguy: thanks :)07:06
bob2linux-noob: no07:06
volvoguyWMCoolmon, anytime. :)07:06
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thoreauputicscott1967: I cn help you in pm if you wish07:06
thoreauputic*can07:06
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Myrtti*yawn*07:06
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linux-noobno??? so what is the drive c then?07:06
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scott19673 times now-remeber now-i have no clue what i'm doing:)07:06
odatubuntu /msg NickServ IDENTIFY palmer07:06
WMCoolmonone remaining question, i apparently have a "enlarged logical partitions overlap"07:07
WMCoolmonis there any way to fix that?07:07
bob2odatubuntu: time change your password07:07
odatubuntuanyone know how to uninstall Enemy territory?07:07
volvoguyWMCoolmon, that's one i've never heard before.07:07
odatubuntusup bob07:07
Dr_Willisodatubuntu,  how did you Install it?07:08
linux-noobbob2: what is the drive c then?07:08
odatubuntudr_willis: yes07:08
Dr_Willisodatubuntu,  HOW did you Install it?07:08
bob2linux-noob: a drive, which is different to a partition07:08
odatubuntubob2: do you know how i can uninstall this thing i'm done playing with it07:08
bob2depends on how you installed it07:08
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odatubuntudr_willis: it was a graphical installer07:08
linux-noobok07:08
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Dr_Willisodatubuntu,  so you did not use the apt-get stuff or synaptic?07:08
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odatubuntudr_willis: no07:09
ripgutanyone know if the zen micro can work in ubuntu?07:09
ripguti did a "lsusb" and it comes up07:09
ripgutbut how do i access it?07:09
bz0boh god what i would do for someone to come over and just connect to my wifi for about 30-40 minutes, so i can test aircrack07:09
Carpe_Libertatem!tell me about java07:09
bob2is it a usb-storage device?07:09
odatubuntubob2: i used this sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run07:09
WMCoolmonanyone...enlarged logical partitions overlap problem...anyone....07:09
bob2WMCoolmon: clearly no one here knows; what did google say? nothing in the list archives?07:09
WMCoolmonthe only thing i could really find was to reformat and start over07:10
bz0bI <3 reformatting07:11
ds[de] WMCoolmon: when do you get the error?07:11
WMCoolmoni have little confidence in that working since i only partitioned the drive with the Ubuntu installer07:11
WMCoolmonwhen i run cfdisk07:11
volvoguymy brain hurts. i applaud you guys that are always in here helping. i'll be back in a few.07:11
Dr_WillisWMCoolmon,  wjhat is giving you that error? the installer?07:11
ds[de] WMCoolmon query07:11
WMCoolmonno, i get the error when I run cfdisk07:11
WMCoolmon"FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap07:12
WMCoolmon                          Press any key to exit cfdisk07:12
WMCoolmon"07:12
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Dr_WillisWMCoolmon,  You some how got it mispartioned it seems07:12
Dr_Willisdid you allready partion this drive once? or wjhats on it now?07:12
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odatubuntuanyone know how i uninstall this thing?07:12
WMCoolmonit was new when i got it07:12
Dr_Willis'new' as in fromn the box?07:13
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WMCoolmonyes, i basically took it out and installed ubuntu on it. i may have had to repartition the drive, but if i did, i used the ubuntu installer every time07:13
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Dr_Willisodatubuntu,  the rtcw:et whomepage will tell ya where it isntalkled to.. and jujst delete that directory07:14
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Dr_WillisWMCoolmon,  Hmm. I just let thje ubuntu installer auto-partuion the drive. :P07:14
[Chameleon] How can I get encrypted DVD playback in breezy??07:14
Dr_Willisi also tend to use the normal linux fdisk. or boot some live cd that has qt_parted07:15
odatubuntu?07:15
Dr_Willis[Chameleon] ,  i think thats answered in the ubuntu wikis.07:15
Dr_Willis!dvd07:15
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras07:15
Dr_Willisodatubuntu,  find the dir it isntalled to and delete that dir07:15
WMCoolmonDr_Willis: ds[de]  figured it out, actually...sounds like the problem is that cfdisk can't handle logical partitions that weren't partitioned in the order that they appear on the disk. mine certainly fit that description07:16
Dr_WillisWMCoolmon,  aha.. i rember that issue ages ago.. you got them numbered like 1,2,5,4,3 :P07:16
Dr_WillisWMCoolmon,  been there - done that.07:16
Dr_Willis:P07:16
[Chameleon] !breezy-extras07:16
ubotu[Chameleon] : Syntax error in line 107:17
Dr_Willisi find it much easier to just let the disrtos installers set up the hd's auto-magicially these days.07:17
thoreauputic[Chameleon] : not sure on this, but I would think the libdvdcss2 in hoary-extras should work on breezy07:18
WMCoolmonyeah, i would've done that except i wanted to run W2k and Ubuntu side-by-side07:18
WMCoolmonplus have some partitions for LFS and whatnot07:18
thoreauputic[Chameleon] : hopefully someone will correct me if that's wrong :)07:18
Myrttiyawn07:18
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linux-noobbob2: is warcraft3 playable in linux, and other games???07:19
bob2linux-noob: depends if you've bought cedega or not07:20
HrdwrBoBlinux-noob: yes07:20
HrdwrBoBlinux-noob: you can play wc3 in wine, I think07:20
linux-noobwhat is cedega???07:20
linux-noobwhat is wine too???07:20
shik45winex07:20
Myrttithanks.07:20
shik45wow ur a dumb noob07:20
shik45emulator for win3207:21
thoreauputicshik45: stop that pleasde07:21
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shik45fine07:21
bob2shik45: please read the code of conduct07:21
shik45fine07:21
shik45but seriously07:21
naliothshik45: yes, some tact would be nice07:21
asdxwine is an emulator?07:21
bob2people who use "ur" shouldn't be calling anyone a "dumb noob", anyway07:21
linux-noobshik45: that why asking here07:21
thoreauputic!tell shik45 about conduct07:21
bob2asdx: no, it's NOT an emulator07:21
[Chameleon] asdx: heh, no07:21
linux-noobcoz this is my first time07:21
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bob2asdx: it's a reimplementation of parts of windows, so you can run windows programs on linux07:21
bob2it's quite clever07:22
candlelighteveryone starts from somewhere, np07:22
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nitinshantharamany mailserver setup gurus here, im having the hardest time07:22
shik45ubuntu has a bad name because of users who dont know gnome from kde07:22
[Chameleon] WINE is more of a translator than an emulator.07:22
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shik45same thing07:22
[Chameleon] shik45: why don't you just leave? it'll be easier that way.07:22
shik45synonyms07:22
[Chameleon] no, not at all07:22
shik45yes07:22
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asdxis like a layer?07:22
shik45and wc3 works under wine07:22
asdxon top of unix/x11?07:22
[Chameleon] asdx: yes07:23
shik45my friend had it up under gentoo07:23
asdxk07:23
[Chameleon] asdx: rather than a completely virtualized environment, such as an emulator would be07:23
shik45and steam works under cedega/winex07:23
asdxdoes wine runs on something other than x86?07:23
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shik45prob07:23
bob2nitinshantharam: best to just ask your question07:23
asdxlike on ppc07:23
Razor-Xis there a sed option to make it delete the line of a match?07:23
bob2asdx: no07:23
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linux-noobbob2: can i find the cedega and winex at eh ubuntulinux.org site????07:24
asdxk07:24
[Chameleon] asdx: it might be technically possible, but I don't believe they build to that arch.07:24
nitinshantharambob2: well i dont know how to setup a virtual mail server, and ive looked at tutorials, i need some help07:24
bob2asdx: wine doesn't emulate things; the windows program runs on the CPU normally, but the calls it makes to windows functions get handled by wine07:24
[Chameleon] asdx: IIRC, NT 4 ran on PPC.07:24
giggsey_When I install firefox via apt-get it gives E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:24
asdxok07:24
bob2nitinshantharam: google: "postfix mysql kirby"07:24
bob2linux-noob: no, they cost money07:24
nitinshantharambob2 ok thanks let me look07:24
bob2giggsey_: that's not the full error, paste the entire thing to #flood07:24
JairunCalothwhere is the xserver log file?07:24
giggsey_kk07:24
[Chameleon] or maybe that was Alpha, not PPC that NT 4 also ran on......07:25
shik45u can get source07:25
bob2JairunCaloth: /var/log07:25
shik45on website asdx07:25
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bob2[Chameleon] : it ran on both, and mips07:25
shik45winehq.com07:25
[Chameleon] bob2: yeah... that's right07:25
Dr_Willisive never had much lucjk with wine or cedega playing games. :(07:25
shik45u know how to compile from source asdx ?07:25
giggsey_bob2: posted in #flood07:26
shik45it worked fine on my gentoo07:26
asdxshik45: wine?07:26
shik45yes07:26
asdxshik45: yes07:26
bob2giggsey_: looks like you installed extensions as root07:26
shik45either is good07:26
shik45i run all sorts a shit using winex and wine07:26
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shik45it is great07:27
giggsey_bob2 -> I've installed no extensions yet07:27
shik45i have vmware 2 for developing livecd07:27
asdxshinu: u just grab the wine-2005xxxx.tar.bz2 - tar -xvjf wine-2005xxxx.tar.bz2 - cd wine-2005xxxx/ - ./configure - make - make install and u're done I guess07:27
asdxshik45: then u have to configure some stuff in ~/.wine07:27
shik45i didn't07:27
shik45but u might have 207:27
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shik45i used portage my friend07:27
shik45for everyhting07:28
asdxok07:28
shik45winex isn't on there anymore tho'07:28
thoreauputicshik45: this is #ubuntu , in case you didn't notice07:28
shik45i was helping the guy out07:28
shik45i support the project07:28
shik45i have 5 ubuntu boxes in my hosue07:28
SuperQheh07:28
shik45i have my dad on it 207:28
bob2come on folks07:28
bob2let's stay on-topic07:28
shik45dont be petty07:28
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shik45this is support07:29
bob2shik45: done?07:29
asdxwhy staying on topic?07:29
asdxI mean07:29
shik45yes07:29
bob2good, thanks07:29
bob2asdx: because otherwsie this will degenerate into a stupid argument07:29
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bob2more so than it has already07:29
Dr_Willis!topic07:29
shik45u need more help asdx07:29
smottfreenode is slowly but very surely turning to shit ...07:29
smottkind of like usenet07:29
shad0w1ehow do I determine a directory size from the console???07:29
Razor-Xhmmm, how do you do increments in BASH or ZSH scripting?07:29
asdxshik45: i need more help?07:29
asdxshik45: what kind of help?07:29
Dr_Willisshad0w1e,  'df' is what i normally use i think07:29
asdxshik45: why do i need help?07:29
giggsey_nvm, it apears that I can now download extentsions07:29
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shad0w1edf tells you the size of the disk07:29
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shik45i was asking if u did07:29
shad0w1ehow about directory?07:29
bimberishad0w1e: du -sh /path/to/dir07:30
Dr_Willisdu perhaps :P07:30
shik45if ur smart u shall be fine07:30
shad0w1eoh nice!07:30
bob2shad0w1e: du -sh blah07:30
shad0w1ethanks !07:30
linux-noobbob2: i have a question regarding the partition disk in the installation..asking me about the mount option...what do you think is the best option for me as a stater of linux????07:30
Dr_Willisi alwyas get them backwwards07:30
shik45u seem 2 know enough07:30
asdxshik45: if i did what?07:30
shik45nvmd07:30
bob2linux-noob: then leave the defaults07:30
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shik45go ahead and try cedega or wine07:30
shik45i suggest cedega if u can get it warez07:30
linux-noobthe default is ro - mount the file system read-only???07:30
shad0w1eaight thanks its working great!!!07:31
asdxk07:31
thoreauputicshik45: wareZ are totally off-topic07:31
Dr_Williswarez? oh plz.. for the cost of lunch money you can get  legally07:31
shad0w1ehow do i tell how many people are logged into the box?07:31
bob2linux-noob: no, that's not the default07:31
Dr_Willisor ya could break down and use the cvs versions.07:31
bob2shad0w1e: depends how you define how many07:31
bob2shad0w1e: "w" would be a useful tool07:31
shik45i was telling him how 2 get winex07:32
shik45wine is gpl07:32
shik45so u can get it easily07:32
shad0w1ew works great, thanks again!07:32
linux-noobbob2: huh??? so what is it then?? the choices are as follows: ro - mount the file system read-only; sync - all input/output activities occur synchronously; quite - changing owner and permission does not return errors?????07:33
bob2linux-noob: leave them all blank07:33
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linux-noobok07:33
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vern401what do I need to do to solve Error Failed to run services-admin as user root07:35
rendi# chmod 777 d07:35
rendichmod: changing permissions of `d': Read-only file system07:35
rendican help me07:35
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shad0w1ehow can I tell from the "ls" command if something is a symbolic link?07:36
crimsunrendi: presuming you know that 777 is dangerous [foolish] , what fs is that on?07:36
thoreauputicshad0w1e: use ls -l07:36
danlhow do you set the suid bit for a file?07:36
shad0w1ethoreauputic I was using it07:36
rendifat3207:36
rendiis windows partition07:36
thoreauputicshad0w1e: if it's a link it will have a n arrow07:36
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shad0w1eoh yeah07:37
shad0w1ebut it doesnt07:37
crimsunshad0w1e: the leftmost output will be 'l'07:37
shad0w1eon my other system it does07:37
linux-noobbob2: i have already formatted the partition, now i would like to ask what is the best mount point for me???? /dos; /windows or do not mount it???07:37
shad0w1ethis is an old 2.4 kernel system07:37
bob2rendi: you can't change permissions on a windows partition07:37
bob2linux-noob: stop using so many question marks, it's really really annoying07:37
bob2linux-noob: have you made / yet?07:38
rendii'm del my windows last night07:38
linux-nooboh im sorry?07:38
linux-noobnot yet?07:38
rendionly ubuntu i have on my pc07:38
linux-noobnot yet07:38
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bob2then tell it to be /07:38
crimsundanl: what are the perms on it now?07:38
rendican help ?07:39
linux-noobso only / ? no more?07:39
bob2linux-noob: yes07:39
bob2rendi: what are you trying to do?07:39
danl75507:39
bob2and why is it so hard to get peopel to explain their goal, instead of their confused attempted solution?07:40
crimsundanl: chmod 4755 foo07:40
Razor-Xbob2: do you know how to use a shell variable in sed?07:40
linux-noobok thanks. how about the bootable flag? what is it?07:40
danlhmmm....07:40
rendibob2 i wanna save my doc in that partition07:40
danldidn't seem to work, trying to get it so my none root user can execute shfsmount as root07:41
shik45is there kubuntu channel07:41
Razor-Xshik45: yeah07:41
bob2rendi: then you mounted it wrong07:41
thoreauputicshik45: yes07:41
bob2Razor-X: same as you do in any other shell thing: $blah07:41
Razor-Xbob2: but in sed, doesen't sed search for string $blah?07:42
crimsundanl: huh? just use sudo07:42
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crimsundanl: toying with suid is at best dangerous if you're not familiar with the intended security design07:42
danlyea... thats what i did... just didn't want to have to type the password each time07:42
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crimsundanl: the passwd is cached per tty07:43
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linux-noobbob2: what is the meaning of bootable flag? what does it do?07:43
danli will only be doing it once per login07:43
rendibob2 here my fstab07:43
rendi/dev/hda5       /media/d  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       007:43
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danli just got done setting up ssh keys so i don't have to type my ssh password for the server... but it doesn't work on shfs... i think ima give it a rest tonight07:43
Razor-Xbob2: yeah, I guess it matches the literal '$test' and not the value of $test, which is what I want07:44
bob2Razor-X: your shell does the substitution before sed runs07:44
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Razor-Xwell, here's my syntax07:44
crimsundanl: then my suggestion is to configure sudoers to allow just that utility to be run NOPASSWD07:44
bob2linux-noob: it tells your bios the partition can be booted07:44
crimsundanl: for your user only, of course07:44
linux-noobbob2: ok thanks again07:44
Octaneeven though i successfully installed the latest nvidia drivers (over the nvidia kernel module packages), X.org.log says that it failed to intialize the nvidia kernel module with the error "no screens found"07:44
Razor-Xcat --number blah | sed 's/^ *//g' | sed -n 's/$test[^0-90//p'07:44
Razor-Xerr07:44
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Razor-Xcat --number blah | sed 's/^ *//g' | sed -n 's/$test[^0-90] //p'07:44
Razor-Xwhere $test == 407:45
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Razor-Xshould I remove the 's ?07:45
danlok... will google that :-) thanks. any way to make su not prompt for password for said user?07:45
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danlignoring the major security hole that would make07:45
absenthis anyone here semi familiar with using Ubuntu as the base for a dedicated snort IDS box?07:45
crimsundanl: erm, not su. That's why sudoers is relevant here.07:46
bob2Octane: then load it07:46
Octanebob2: i load it in modules07:46
Octane'nvidia'07:46
bob2Razor-X: remember that your shell handles quoting and variable substitution07:47
bob2Octane: er, so look at dmesg and see what happened07:47
bob2then modprobe it manually07:47
Razor-Xbob2: I'm remembering, but my result isn't what it should be07:47
Octane"module license taints kernel" is the only nvidia-related msg07:47
Razor-Xbob2: if I substitute `4' for `$test' sed matches the line I want07:47
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bob2Razor-X: " instead of '07:48
chavoIf I boot into runlevel 5, I only have 1 getty running. Anyone know how to fi?07:48
chavofix that is07:48
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Razor-Xbob2: lemme see07:48
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danlthanks crimsun, that was easy enough07:49
Razor-Xbob2: I get a broken pipe statement07:49
Razor-Xbob2: err, hold on a sec07:50
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Razor-Xahhh, I see, it's something BASH specific07:50
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linux-noobbob2: i have encountered base system installation error.07:51
thoreauputicchavo: ubuntu doesn't normally use runlevel 5 - have you configured it that way?07:52
linux-noobbob2: it says that the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)07:52
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chavoI just did it temorarily07:52
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chavotemporarily07:52
thoreauputicchavo: X is runlevel 2 by default07:52
thoreauputicah07:52
chavoyes I know that07:52
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thoreauputicOK'07:52
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bob2linux-noob: perhaps the cd didn't burn correctly07:53
chavoWhen I do init 2 it runs the other gettys07:53
Octanehow can i troubleshoot this nvidia driver not working? im using the latest version from nvidia's site. i also have the nvidia kernel modules installed. i have modprobe'd 'nvidia'07:53
thoreauputicchavo: something in /etc/inittab then I would think07:53
linux-noobok07:53
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KnelixJust ordered my new PC system for Ubunto!07:53
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chavoYeah that's what I thought, but it works on a clean install of breezy, doesn't work on an upgrade.07:54
bob2Octane: and you read dmesg?07:54
chavoand inittab is the same.07:54
chavono big deal, just wondering if someone knew a fix07:54
gpmhi guys. i have a problem sometimes with cdrecord and i have to use an older version (on debian, thinking of switching to ubuntu)...if cdrecord doesn't work automagically, can i downgrade cdrecord?07:54
Octanebob2: ya i grep'd nvidia and found nothing but "module licenst nvidia taints kernel"07:54
thoreauputicchavo: looks like all ttys are not activated in r/l 5 on my box07:55
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bob2gpm: file a bug07:55
linux-noobbob2: what is this error? system~1_resto~1rp126change~1.1 is 1k, but it has 4 clusters (16k) error! then the options ignore and cancel07:55
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thoreauputicchavo: look at thelines below 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 in /etc/inittab07:56
bob2linux-noob: an error is useless if you don't give us context07:56
chavothoreauputic, yes07:56
chavoI see, I get it now07:56
thoreauputic:)07:56
chavothanks07:56
linux-noobbob2: the error occurs after i have done with the partition and ready to install the linux07:56
KnelixSpecs:07:57
thoreauputicchavo: np :)07:57
antixhm I just got 60Mb of new packages through the Software Updates program.. some major update?07:57
KnelixFoxconn TLM454R3M6-C350 Barebones (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856119002)07:57
KnelixAMD Sempron 2400+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache07:57
KnelixTOSHIBA Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive07:57
KnelixGeIL Value 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200)07:57
bob2linux-noob: sounds like disk corruption07:57
bob2Knelix: please don't paste in here07:57
bob2antix: on breezy?07:57
antixbob2, no hoary07:57
linux-noobbob2: ok thanks again07:57
gpmbob2: done...it's been open for over a year.07:57
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bob2gpm: cool07:58
benplautin Soviet Russia, Breezy breaks you!07:58
Octaneany ideas bobbbb07:58
Octanebob is my onl yglimmer of hope07:58
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dazvidbenplaut:  lol @ family guy reference :P07:59
benplautnope... Yakkof Smirnoff... or something07:59
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dazvidIt was on family guy, when they got the GPS system :O07:59
benplautand origionally from some other russian guy07:59
dazvidah fair enough08:00
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bob2I'm sorry, I care little for binary drivers08:00
benplautahh found it08:00
bob2it sounds like nvidia screwed it up08:00
benplautYakov Smirnoff08:00
benplaut  :P08:00
bob2file a bug and hope someone fixes it08:00
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blakeany ubuntu users here own an ipod?08:04
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benplautblake: several08:05
MyrttiI need more coffee08:05
benplautbut not me08:05
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benplautMyrtti, spoken like a true ubunut :P08:05
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arkaissomeone have gnome 2.12?08:07
benplautyah08:07
benplauti do08:07
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mike_douglasin Evince 0.4, is anyone else's "jobs" tab of the print dialog completely blank?08:07
naliothwtf08:08
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dazvidlol ;/08:09
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asdxfreenode sucks08:09
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ompnetsplits :/08:10
benplautasdx, no, it doesn't :P08:10
!dmwaters:*! Hi all! That netsplit was for some scheduled maintenence so that one of our regular rotation servers can get some more ram. roughly about 700 users effected since the box is out of rotation08:11
CryptidCan i install .rpm files on ubuntu08:11
Cryptid?08:11
deFryskCryptid, berrer not08:11
asdxbenplaut: it does quite a bit08:11
Dr_Willisyou can convert them to installable packages with 'alien'08:11
deFryskbetter*08:11
mike_douglasCryptid: sudo alien -d <rpm file>08:11
benplautasdx: better then nuthin :P08:11
deFryskCryptid, what package ?08:11
asdxlol08:12
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cevizogluwow, this vnc client is incrediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiibly slow08:12
cevizoglusorry08:12
Dr_Williscevizoglu,  try the 'tightvnc' or 'vnc4' variants then.. reduce the # of colors also helps a lot08:13
Dr_Willisor for linux to linux - freenx can work better i hear.08:13
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CryptidYa i converted the .rpm file to .deb but when i try to install it using dpkg it says that the database has been locked and may be in use by another applicatoin08:13
benplautCryptid, is synatpic of update manager open?08:14
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benplaut*or08:14
deFryskCryptid, what package and use sudo and shut down synaptic08:14
Dr_Willis:) and its proberly right.08:14
Cryptidoh yes synaptec is open08:14
Cryptidi guess thats the problem08:14
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deFryskCryptid, if its java wont work08:14
Cryptidthax guys08:14
deFryskif its realplayer , unlikely to work08:15
CryptiddeFrysk well i was trying to install amule08:15
deFryskdunno bout amule08:15
linux-noobi have a harddisk with an existing partition and bad sectors on it. question is: will linux have a way of blocking this bad sectors for me to install the linux with ease after i have repartitioned it using linux?08:15
deFryskCryptid, but good luck08:15
CryptiddeFrysk does that mean i cant install Azureus08:15
naliothCryptid: use bittornado08:16
Cryptidcoz Azureus is based on Java08:16
MadpilotCryptid: amule is in Ubuntu repos - no need for rpms08:16
Madpilot!java08:16
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:16
naliothCryptid: i use console bittornado + "gnu screen"08:16
deFryskCryptid, azureus is easy to install locally just unpack the package08:16
Cryptidok08:16
deFryskand it will work08:16
linux-noobhelp me pls!08:16
linux-noobi have a harddisk with an existing partition and bad sectors on it. question is: will linux have a way of blocking this bad sectors for me to install the linux with ease after i have repartitioned it using linux?08:17
danllater amigos08:17
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deFrysklinux-noob, to me a hd with bad sectors is something to be binned08:17
CryptiddeFrysk well i tried to install Azureus from synaptec but it also had to download java and then after half the download it says failed to retreive file from server08:17
Proclivityis there hope for my Audigy2 on Ubuntu ?08:17
Madpilot!tell Cryptid about java08:17
deFryskCryptid, got java installed from backports ?08:17
dazvidYes Proclivity08:17
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dazvidI use audigy2, and am listening to music right nown08:18
dazvidnow*08:18
thoreauputiclinux-noob: is it worth the hassle ? The hdd is one the way out anyway, is it not?08:18
thoreauputic*on08:18
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Proclivityhow please dazvid... what am I missing on the install08:18
dazvidProclivity: have you downloaded the "alsa" drivers?08:18
cevizogluDr_Willis, thx, I will try vnc408:18
ksmurfgnight all08:18
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CryptiddeFrysk what is backports?08:19
linux-noobbut windows xp is running on it? then why i cant install linux then?08:19
ProclivityI will check when I boot back... on XP now08:19
dazvidoh ok08:19
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Dr_Williscevizoglu,  theres may be more vairants out. :P  seems a new one comes out every month08:19
Proclivityafter I have that then what?08:19
dazvidWell when you get those drivers, go into a console and type "alsamixer" and there will be an option that is defaulted to MUTE. So you need to highlight it and press 'm' to unmute08:19
deFrysk!backports08:20
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports08:20
dazvidfor memory the option was digital/analog something or other08:20
Proclivityright... I've been there ok08:20
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deFryskcriptid you do not have read the wiki pages ?08:20
Cryptidoh is blackport a repos?huh?08:20
dazvidProclivity: the exact option is "Audigy Analog/Digital output jack"08:21
Madpilot!repos08:21
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:21
dazvidfind that one and press m08:21
deFryskCryptid, read this all and apply if possible https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:21
MadpilotCryptid: see the bottom of the AddingRepos URL in ubotu's post above ^^^08:21
Cryptidok i will08:21
deFryskCryptid, many of your questions wil be answered there08:21
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Proclivitygreat!08:22
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Proclivitythx dazvid... I'll try it08:22
Proclivitylater08:22
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CryptidIs there a QBasic compiler for linux08:23
arkaishow can i install gnome2.12? i try an update but doesnt work08:23
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molemanquestion08:23
molemanhow do I install kopete?08:23
thoreauputicarkais: it's in Breezy - you would upgrade to breezy for that08:24
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy08:24
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:24
Madpilotmoleman: kopete's in the repos08:24
molemanhmm?08:24
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MadpilotKopete is in the main repos - just search for it in Synaptic08:25
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Cryptidi have herd that there are few viruses for linux so where can i get a good antivirus software for ubuntu08:25
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bob2Cryptid: don't bother08:26
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Cryptidbob2 y not?08:26
bob2Cryptid: unless you run software you get from untrusted people, you have nothing to worry about08:26
tgaCryptid, most antivirus software for linux will help combat windows viruses08:26
arkaisthoreauputic, and how works breezy now?08:26
Cryptidtga do windows viruses infect ubuntu08:26
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deFryskCryptid, virusses are colectables on linux , not executables08:27
thoreauputicarkais: I'm not running it yet - it's still at the preview stage: others may know more08:27
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tgaCryptid, no, but for example you could run a mail server on ubuntu.. then you'd want to scan messages passing through to unsuspecting windows users08:27
MadpilotdeFrysk: to you have a complete set? ;)08:27
arkaisok08:27
Madpilot*do08:27
arkaisthx thoreauputic08:27
thoreauputicnp :)08:27
deFryskMadpilot, nah , threw them out ,08:27
Cryptidtga so which antivirus u think i should use08:28
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tgaCryptid, none really08:28
aftertaf"deFrysk Cryptid, virusses are colectables on linux , not executables"     Lol :)08:28
MadpilotCryptid: are you going to be running a mailserver and a network that includes Windows machines?08:28
ksmurfanyone know why I can't burn cd's with gnomebaker?08:28
CryptidMadpilot, NO08:28
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thoreauputicCryptid: then you have nothing to worry about08:29
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aftertaf:)08:29
MadpilotCryptid: then no need to worry about AV, that's what ppl have been saying...08:29
aftertafgod morning all, btw ;)08:29
ksmurfgd aftertaf08:29
Cryptidby mistake if i execute a windows .exe file which is a Virus and it runs using Wine will it harm my Com08:29
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ksmurfcrypitic yes and no08:30
thoreauputicCryptid: that won't happen unless you tell it to :)08:30
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ksmurfwhat should the permissions be for my dvd writer?08:30
Cryptidya but what if a person is curious about the file and runs it, will his com get screwed?08:30
Quinthiusksmurf: are you in breezy?08:30
ksmurfQuin Yes08:31
thoreauputicCryptid: no08:31
thoreauputicCryptid: linux isolates system files from user files anyway08:31
Cryptidthoreauputic, i am happy to hear that08:31
Quinthiusksmurf: i think some recent updates broke some dev permissions08:31
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linux-noobthoreauputic: can i use fat32 file system to install linux?08:32
Quinthiusksmurf: try chmod 660 /dev/<your cd writer>08:32
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thoreauputicCryptid: so basically you can *laugh* at viruses :)08:32
ksmurfyes it did quin ... thats why I'm wondering about what they should be.08:32
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Quinthiusksmurf: i just looked in /dev and permissions look fine to me, so maybe the most recent updates that i just got just fixed it08:32
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andy_hey all, i was just wondering if somebody could quickly recommend me a good MP3 player (one similar to winamp or the equivilent perhaps) for ubuntu08:32
thoreauputiclinux-noob: it's possible, but fat32 is an awful fs08:32
andy_please08:32
cal_poly_dudei have a question about sound, it doesnt work, but ium going to install kde instead of gnome, should i fix my sound before or after the install?08:33
Quinthiusksmurf: 660 i believe08:33
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dazvidandy_: beep media player is rather nice looking, and does a good job08:33
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abarbacciahey all - what package contains the plugins for totem08:33
thoreauputiclinux-noob: use ext3 (tha's the default)08:33
ksmurf660 K thanks ...08:33
linux-noobso ext3 is the best fs for linux then?08:33
thoreauputic*that's08:33
linux-noobok thx08:33
andy_dazvid, any chance you could link me please?08:33
Quinthiusabarbaccia: gstreamer0.8-plugins?08:33
dazvidits in the repos' :)08:33
dazvidjust search it through synaptic08:33
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ksmurfmine are all 75508:33
Cryptidi know this guy, he is a romanian and he writes viruses for linux he goes by the handle of cyneox i read that there are these ELF files which can autorun and infect the system is it true08:33
thoreauputiclinux-noob: not *best* necessarily - but that stuff is the subject of much debate :)08:33
Madpilot!mp308:34
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support08:34
andy_dazvid, the repos08:34
andy_?08:34
Quinthiusksmurf: funky... why would a device need exec perms08:34
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dazvid!tell andy_ about repos08:34
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MadpilotCryptid: got a link?08:34
ksmurfI have no idea....08:34
linux-noobok thanks for the help thoreauputic08:34
dazvidRead the wiki link on it :)08:34
abarbacciahey all - i just wanted to comment- breezy is MUCH faster than hoary08:34
CryptidMadpilot, i sec let me serach for his page08:34
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dazvidabarbaccia: in what ways?08:35
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abarbacciaeverything - synaptic - boot - menu navigation08:35
Quinthiusksmurf: try grabbing the recent updates and see if it fixes them (after rebooting, since udev will need to re initialize)08:35
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dazvidnice! :)08:35
ksmurfI'm up to date08:35
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ksmurfshould root be owner or me?08:35
Quinthiusksmurf: hmm, maybe some program is screwing up perms..08:36
Quinthiusksmurf: which device are we talking about? /dev/hdc or something?08:36
CryptidMadpilot, check out his page http://cyneox.xhost.ro08:36
ksmurf/dev/hdd My dvd writer08:36
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Quinthiusksmurf: ok, i use hdc, but perms should be the same. mine is owned by root, group cdrom, perms 66008:36
johnnybe1akhey guys08:36
linuxboyx6xhello there i got winmac_fstab to display the disk that have a FAT32 file system08:37
linuxboyx6xbut it only shown the 1st part of the disk08:37
linuxboyx6xthe disk is partition into 20 20 G08:37
linuxboyx6xit displayed only 2008:38
linuxboyx6xhow can i view the other?08:38
ksmurfthat was funky... now they are all 66008:38
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Quinthiusksmurf: haha wtf08:38
Quinthiusksmurf: err did you change them all manually? or did they all change from just one device?08:38
andy_dazvid, thanks... could u also help with finding a good MSN Messenger client besides GAIM??08:38
ksmurfI didn't change any of them08:39
linuxboyx6xcan anyone help me?08:39
ksmurflol08:39
bezakamsn ?08:39
thoreauputicandy_: some people like amsn08:39
ksmurfwhat your fstab line?08:39
Dr_Willishmm. I dont think there exists a 'good'  MS*anything* :P08:39
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shad0w1efrontpage is decent08:39
andy_??08:39
Quinthiusksmurf: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 008:40
mike_douglashas anyone successfully printed to a index card on Linux? I've set up the options for it to recognize the paper as 3x5, but it still prints a justified version of the pdf as if it was set to US Letter.08:40
Madpilotshad0w1e: Frontpage the producer of crappy HTML code? yuck...08:40
andy_thoreauputic, is it any good? have you tried it?08:40
Dr_Willisshad0w1e,  hmm.. isent that what they have forced on my install of xp that i cant uninstall? :P08:40
CryptidMadpilot, so the viruses that guy worte are really  harmfull08:40
thoreauputicandy_: I don't use msn, so no08:40
andy_hmm okay ill look into it08:40
shad0w1eDr_Willis , no, it doesn't come with Windows. Just the folder does08:40
andy_thanks :)08:40
aftertafandy_:  kopete seems ok...08:40
MadpilotCryptid: yeah, but they're not going to be in repository software, or stuff from major companies, so why worry about it?08:41
aftertafyou don't have 'wizz' functionality, but the world can get by without it think08:41
Dr_Willisshad0w1e,  ahh. a "This folder is CRITICAL to the working of windows and can not be deleted" - Even tho its EMPTY :P08:41
dazvidandy_: I use gaim :P  only thing I dont like about it, is that it doesnt support Webcam :(08:41
CryptidMadpilot, does linux have internet worms08:41
Cryptidlike the ones windows has08:42
thoreauputicCryptid: you really *are* paranoid, aren't you ? *grin*08:42
Dr_WillisIm not sure if any of the yahoo/msn/whatever clones have web cam supports.08:42
Cryptidi.e zotob blaster sasser08:42
aftertafCryptid:  i think that most of the 'worms' exploit security holes in windows/IE/08:42
ksmurfthat's strange when I check my places it says the permisions are 44408:42
aftertafthey attack RPC08:42
nalioththe latest breezy update has eaten my bootloader08:42
linuxboyx6xhello there i got winmac_fstab to display the disk that have a FAT32 file system08:42
linuxboyx6xlinuxboyx6x but it only shown the 1st part of the disk08:42
linuxboyx6xlinuxboyx6x the disk is partition into 20 20 G08:42
linuxboyx6xlinuxboyx6x it displayed only 2008:42
naliothwill the PPC wonders never cease?08:42
Dr_Willisi was thinking theres some unofficial version of gaim that has some web cam support.08:42
linuxboyx6xpls help08:42
aftertafloool nalioth :/08:42
dazvidDr_Willis: where did you see/read that?08:42
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aftertafDr_Willis:  kopete in KDE 3.5 will aim for webcam support08:43
Dr_Willisdazvid,  i think ive seen it mentioned in here.  but i cant rember the name08:43
Cryptidthoreauputic, ya i may be paraniod :-p08:43
thoreauputicDr_Willis: gaim vv or something like that, I think08:43
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Dr_Willisof course one needs a web cam that Linux supports. :P and tjhose can be hard to track down.08:43
dazvidkopete eh, aftertaf does that also support all the other messenger programs?08:43
thoreauputicCryptid: heh08:43
Skifanybody else running mythtv on breezy?08:43
ksmurfQuin You still here?08:43
Quinthiusksmurf: mine says that too. not sure if that matters... that might just be the permissions for that link thats used in places08:43
ksmurfmy floppy is 75508:44
aftertafThe cvs version of aMSN now has webcam support which seems to work :)08:44
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Skifmythfilldatabase, even08:44
ksmurfwell doesn't matter I got the cd out08:44
aftertaffrom http://www.yoper.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=697808:44
Quinthiusksmurf: wait, what are you using to view permissions... places? or ls -l /dev/hdd?08:44
ksmurfboth08:44
Quinthiusksmurf: well the permissions in places i don't think are the permissions for the actual device08:45
aftertafdazvid:  kopete supports diferent protocols, ICQ, MSN, yaho AIM...08:45
dazvidok will check it out08:45
thoreauputicaftertaf: does IRC as well (like gaim)08:45
ksmurfno it must just be for the link08:45
aftertafDr_Willis:  http://amsn.sourceforge.net/08:45
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Quinthiusksmurf: i think those are just symlinks or special config files used by gnome08:45
aftertafthoreauputic:  yep... thx :)08:45
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Dr_Willisaftertaf,  now i can Porn chat! :p08:46
ksmurfI caught that bug about group cdrom........08:46
ksmurfthe hard way08:46
aftertaf:D Dr_Willis .... or is it Dr_Lecter ???08:46
MadpilotDr_Willis: we didn't need to know that... ;)08:46
Dr_WillisDr_Of_Love08:46
ksmurfQuin Thanks for the help08:46
Cryptidaftertaf, "kopete supports diferent protocols, ICQ, MSN, yaho AIM..." so does Gaim08:46
Quinthiusksmurf: what bug?08:46
Dr_Willisof course I dont have a webcam that has linux support... *sigh*08:46
aftertafCryptid:  and it will have webcam support soon...08:46
ksmurfmy group was not set to cdrom but someother funky thing08:46
aftertafi'm not starting a IM war08:46
Dr_Willisbest webcam i got is the one from the Playhstation2 EyeToy cam. :P08:47
Quinthiusksmurf: plugdev?08:47
ksmurfyes08:47
ksmurfhave to pardon my terms.  I'm still semi new08:48
thoreauputicaftertaf: just don't menetion editors OK ? *g*08:48
Quinthiusksmurf: yeah that was what i saw mentioned in some thread08:48
ksmurfBugzilla08:48
ksmurf??08:48
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Quinthiusksmurf: nah, forums08:48
SuperQanyone with an amd64 05.10 try installing mplayer-amd64 yet?08:49
Quinthiusksmurf: mine is cdrom and i havent touched it, so i guess recent update fixed it, it it's being set to plugdev by some app i dont have installed08:49
ksmurfI really should be there more often.  I only posted a response once about serial wacom pads08:49
Quinthiusit=or*08:49
linux-noobanybody: what is the meaning of repositories?08:49
ksmurfmbe08:49
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Dr_Willis'places of storage'08:49
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Madpilot!repositories08:50
ubotufrom memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:50
highvoltagelinux-noob: places where you store installation packages for programs08:50
thoreauputiclinux-noob: places where the software packages are stored on the net08:50
Dr_Willisaka ' bank' 'library' 'vault'08:50
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QuinthiusDr_Willis: or "snack drawer"08:50
linux-noobok thx...your really a great help08:50
ksmurfThanks Quin...... I better get some sleep.  4 hour drive in at 5 am (4hours)08:50
ksmurfhey ya yong08:50
Quinthiusksmurf: hehe night and have fun :P08:50
Dr_WillisQuinthius,  'Sock Drawer' :P08:50
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funkyHat|asleepQuinthius, or 'pile' or 'bunch' :P08:51
aftertaf!start an editor war08:51
ubotunotepad is better than emacs08:51
thoreauputiclinux-noob: synaptic/apt keeps a list that you update/ reload08:51
Dr_Willisthats where the good stuff is at.08:51
andy_hey guys sorry, excuse my ignorance (im new to ubuntu/linux) .. im trying to figure out how to install AMSN so far i have 4 files: amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin, control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary08:51
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QuinthiusDr_Willis: hah :P08:51
andy_can anybody help me install this please?08:51
robotgeek!info amsn08:51
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB08:51
yongHi,all08:51
Dr_Willisandy_,  try 'sudo apt-get install amsn' m?08:51
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thoreauputicandy_: if you don't have the universe repo, add it08:52
andy_Dr_Willis, thanks trying it now08:52
yonghey ya ksmuf08:52
naliothandy_: while you're at it, add multiverse, too08:52
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andy_okay ill look for them in synaptic package manager08:53
aftertafwhere does kpilot stick the things i hotsnych???08:53
a-l-p-h-ahow do I restart my firewall, to incorperate new rules?08:53
Cryptidare there any more repositories where i can get lots of software i mean the unofficial softwares08:53
andy_nalioth, Binary or source?08:53
andy_thoreauputic, binary or source?08:54
yongAnybody carry out the issue of restarting on the laptop?08:54
thoreauputicandy_: I add both08:54
andy_ok cool08:54
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thoreauputicandy_: source can be useful08:54
naliothandy_: it's easy: anywhere you see "universe" space once and add "multiverse"08:54
robotgeekyong: ?? what is the problem?08:54
yongmy laptop cannot be restarted, only can be sutdown08:55
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MadpilotCryptid: there's something like 16,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos already... isn't that lots of software? ;)08:55
yongToshiba te200008:55
andy_okay im a little confusd now.. i've selected the repo's and i press ok.. it loads some files but nothing happens what do i do after?08:55
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andy_do i have to select and install these files in synaptic package manager?08:55
thoreauputicandy_: hit reload08:55
naliothandy_: hit the "reload" button on the top left08:56
andy_it says downloading files08:56
robotgeekyong: a "sudo reboot" in a terminal doesn't work?08:56
andy_ok.. it finished08:56
andy_now what?08:56
thoreauputicandy_: yup it is updating your repos08:56
naliothandy_: now you spend time looking at all your new toys08:56
yongsomebody said "nolapic" can help, I tried, but cannot08:56
thoreauputicandy_: now you have more stuff than you dreamt of in synaptic ;)08:56
yongI used to use "shutdown -r now"08:57
andy_lol08:57
andy_any chance you can give me an example of one of these new toys?08:57
andy_just so i know it worked?08:57
robotgeekyong: what does 'sudo reboot' do?08:57
thoreauputicandy_: streamtuner08:57
andy_where would that be?08:57
naliothandy_: gkrellm08:57
thoreauputicandy_: just use the search function :)08:58
Madpilotandy_: hit the Search button, search for whatever08:58
bimberiandy_: cowsay :)08:58
robotgeekandy_: or gdesklets08:58
Madpilotbimberi: apt-get moo08:58
nitinshantharamhey guys i configured my mailserver to use virtual mailboex and all with dovecot, how do i configure squirrelmail to use it so i can login?08:58
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bimberiMadpilot: i know :)08:58
andy_ahh yes i see stream tuner08:58
robotgeekbimberi: wth...now this is too much!08:58
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andy_and gkrellm08:58
andy_so what opens .bin files?08:58
andy_like what should I install to open those kind of files?08:59
bimberirobotgeek: don't get too excited, it's only text based :)08:59
robotgeekbimberi: a configurable talking cow!!08:59
yongrobot: Does "reboot" have any differences with "shutdown -r"?08:59
Somada141a little help : i installed totem-xine but the quality is bad in divx and xvid files...is there any codec similar to ffdshow?08:59
robotgeekbimberi: ah okay...08:59
deFryskyong no08:59
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robotgeekyong: not much, i guess08:59
deFryskreboot does shutdown -r now08:59
Madeyeguys, I cant find my fonts directory08:59
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MadeyeI want to add some arabic font to my system to I can force firefoce to use it, where should I pull fonts to ?09:00
yongrobotgeek: reboot links to halt09:00
andy_? any ideas anybody?09:00
robotgeekSomada141: get vlc09:00
naliothMadeye: ~/.fonts09:00
Madpilot!tell Madeye about fonts09:00
Somada141thanks09:00
Somada141i'll get it09:00
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thoreauputicandy_: .bin files are normally non-ubuntu things that you just run - but what .bin files are you fooling with?09:00
deFryskcoffee09:00
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andy_umm the AMSN installer bin file09:00
nigehello09:00
Madeyenalioth, no such file or directory09:00
naliothandy_: most bin files are executable. your system is capable of doing that09:00
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naliothMadeye: you need to make it09:00
nigedoes anyone know how to setup dual monitors off 1 agp card?09:00
andy_nalioth, when i try to run the bin file it asks me which program to open it with09:01
deFryskandy_, amsn is in synaptic09:01
thoreauputicandy_: *cough* amsn is in syanaptic09:01
yongrobotgeek: let me try reboot now09:01
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yongsee ya09:01
naliothandy_: search synaptic, as thoreauputic points out09:01
andy_i knwo guys lol....09:01
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andy_i installed it from there09:01
thoreauputicdeFrysk: don't search the web for random stuff09:01
andy_but im just saying for future refrence09:01
naliothandy_: you have WAY more software available now then you'll know what to do with09:01
andy_just incase something isnt in there09:01
benixhello09:01
deFryskdeFrysk, pardon ?09:01
naliothandy_: if it isnt there, come back here09:01
thoreauputicandy_: future reference - alway look in syanaptic first09:01
deFryskthoreauputic, pardon ?09:01
Somada141it says vlc is a player though09:01
andy_lol ok09:02
andy_last thing to help me out09:02
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Somada141does its dependacies include the codecs or sth?09:02
andy_u guys know how control + alt + delete usually starts the task manager09:02
thoreauputicdeFrysk: sorry - mistaken identity09:02
robotgeekSomada141: yeah, it has all the codecs needed.09:02
andy_what do i press to start the taskmanager in ubuntu?09:02
Somada141thnx09:02
deFryskthoreauputic, </shapeshiftmode>09:02
robotgeekandy_: applications -> system tools -> system monitor09:02
bimberitoo quick robotgeek :P09:02
thoreauputicdeFrysk: dunno what I did there :D sorry about that09:03
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andy_robotgeek,  thanks :)09:03
robotgeekbimberi: :)09:03
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blakefonts in /home/user/fonts <--09:03
blakefonts in /home/blake/fonts <--09:03
naliothblake, it's /home/user/.fonts09:03
topyliandy_: ctrl-alt-del does not usually start anything. it reboots the box. you've been using very strange systems haven't you ;-)09:03
Madpilot!fonts09:03
ubotufonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto09:03
deFryskapt-get perk coffee09:03
Madpilotblaylock: see ubotu ^^^09:03
andy_topyli, in windows it opens task manager :)09:04
naliothandy_: this isnt windows09:04
andy_how strange... aMSn is frozen yet it does not show in the system monitor09:04
topylideFrysk: put (require 'coffee) in your ~/.emacs so you don't have to get it separately :)09:04
andy_nalioth, yes i kno thats why i was asking for the ubuntu alternative09:04
deFrysktopyli, consider it done :D09:04
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topylideFrysk: coffee.el is packaged in emacs-goodies iirc :)09:05
naliothandy_: applications > system tools > system monitor09:05
deFryskhehe09:05
andy_nalioth, i know now :) thanks09:05
WMCoolmoni'm having a problem with libpython2.4-opengl...i went to upgrade to breezy, and apparently libpython is now half-installed, but i can't remove or reinstall it09:05
andy_thanks for all your help everyone09:05
andy_i really appreciate it.. :)09:05
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andy_im off now09:05
naliothWMCoolmon: breezy is broken, for better or worse until Oct 1309:06
deFryskWMCoolmon, apt-get -f install09:06
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ndisydoes anyone know the addition packages that i need to run mutant storm successfully?09:06
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robotgeek61 MB of updates...*gulp*09:06
Somada141question : when breezy is released i can download the image burn it on a disc and remotely update my hoary?09:06
WMCoolmonnalioth: what do you mean?09:06
Somada141that's cause i don't have a connection at home09:06
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skipHello, can sombody say me who I can find Evolution 2.4 for Debian / Ubuntu ?09:07
bimberirobotgeek: yeah, lots of X related stuff09:07
naliothSomada141: you can remotely update your hoary via the network09:07
robotgeekdamn, i guess i'll have to recompile my wireless  card driver now09:07
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Somada141i don't have a connection at home09:07
naliothWMCoolmon: breezy doesnt officially release until next month09:07
WMCoolmondeFrysk: when i try that, i get dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:07
Somada141can't i do via the cd?09:07
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naliothWMCoolmon: it is under frantic last minute developement09:07
WMCoolmonnalioth: erg, ahh09:07
naliothSomada141: you can update it with the cd, yes09:07
Garyuwhich packages is the best to get my Hotmail into Thunderbird?09:07
topyliskip: it's in breezy. might be tricky to get it on hoary09:07
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robotgeekGaryu: there's a webmail extension in thunderbird09:08
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Garyurobotgeek: doh :)09:08
Somada141ok09:08
naliothWMCoolmon: your next update (they happen all the time) may fix your problem, or it might be a couple of days09:08
WMCoolmonwell, i'm in the middle of upgrading...so i doubt i can stop nowand still have a workable system :-/09:08
Garyui was already looking at gotmail, hotsmtp and hotway09:08
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deFryskGaryu, I believe there is a plugin for that09:08
WMCoolmonis there any way to get rid of or skip the stupid python package?09:09
WMCoolmoni've gotten rid of everything that uses it09:09
deFryskGaryu, search on the mozdev page of mozilla09:09
naliothWMCoolmon: "apt-get remove <offensive package>"09:09
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deFryskWMCoolmon, apt-get -f install09:09
Somada141will i have to uninstall my previous divx,xvid codecs or totem-xine for vlc to work?09:10
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robotgeekSomada141: no09:10
Somada141that's good09:10
WMCoolmontried both09:10
WMCoolmonif i do install, i get "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:10
WMCoolmon"09:10
LinuxNewbiehello there i just installed a 3.5 floppy disk drive how do i use it? or mount it?09:10
Somada141oh and one last question...in the ubuntu poll ftp server does its folder contain the dependacies as well?09:10
aftertafLinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /floppy09:11
WMCoolmonif i do remove, i get "dpkg: error processing python2.4-opengl (--remove):09:11
WMCoolmon Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should09:11
WMCoolmon reinstall it before attempting a removal.09:11
WMCoolmonterminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'09:11
WMCoolmon  what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid09:11
WMCoolmonAborted09:11
topyliWMCoolmon: you're trying plain 'apt-get -f install' with no arguments?09:11
WMCoolmon"09:11
GaryudeFrysk: thanks, i found this one now: http://webmail.mozdev.org/09:11
aftertafWMCoolmon:  pastebin09:11
WMCoolmonsorry09:11
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LinuxNewbieand it will automatically mount it?09:11
WMCoolmontopyli: yes09:11
aftertafs'ok.... but makes for much scrollage09:11
topylihrm09:11
deFryskGaryu, I know it works fine with yahoo mail :)09:11
deFryskbut should do hotmail too09:11
WMCoolmon"$ sudo apt-get -f install python2.4-opengl09:11
WMCoolmon"09:11
LinuxNewbieok wait ill try it09:11
aftertafLinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /media/floppy    <--- and normally, yes it will09:12
topyliWMCoolmon: python2.4-opengl is an argument. lose it09:12
aftertafnot same as debian woody... ;)09:12
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deFryskGaryu, if you want a proper free popmail get gmail09:12
WMCoolmon"$ sudo apt-get -f install" gives me the same thing09:12
robotgeekGaryu: get the 'remove duplicates' extension too, while u are there09:12
robotgeekyeah, gmail is great09:13
[Chameleon] sure is.09:13
GaryudeFrysk: I already got gmail, but for 'legacy' reasons I still need to access my hotmail once or twice a month09:13
[Chameleon] Garyu: want a GMail invite?09:13
Somada141last question : in the ubuntu poll ftp server does its folder contain the dependacies as well?09:13
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bibehi all. I installed Breezy preview on my laptop (Radeon 9700 video card), I followed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com to install fglrx driver, but still no 3d acceleration. Xorg's log says it can't initialize DRI. Any suggestion, please?09:13
[Chameleon] Garyu: ah, OK09:13
topyliWMCoolmon: sounds like your system is in a bad state. you could try removing the package with dpkg and --force09:13
Garyu[Chameleon] : thanks, registration is opened up at gmail now, no invites necessary anymore09:13
[Chameleon] Garyu: is that to keep your MSN messenger alive?09:13
bezakwhat packages do i need to install for mpeg and mp3 playback09:13
Garyu[Chameleon] : no, but I don't want to make my gmail public09:13
WMCoolmontopyli: i'm trying it with build-dep, looks like there's some issues there that synaptic and apt-get didn't tell me about :|09:14
Garyuso i use my hotmail account for registrating at websites and such09:14
deFryskGaryu, oh ?? havent been to hotmail for years and msm on gmail still work fine09:14
[Chameleon] Garyu: ah.... I wondered why they gave me 100 more invites.09:14
Garyuregistering*09:14
grifter_Hi! Is there a "directx" equivalent in linux?09:14
[Chameleon] Garyu: OIC09:14
bimberiubotu tell bezak about restricted09:14
bezakgrifter_: opengl09:14
bibebezak : have you tried ubuntuguide.org?09:14
grifter_bezak: thanks....09:14
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grifter_:)09:14
deFryskbibe bad call09:14
bezakwow my yellow in my terminal is illegible09:14
GaryudeFrysk: I occasionally use my hotmail, i regularly use gmail :)09:14
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naliothbibe: please09:15
deFrysk! ubuntuguide09:15
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:15
bezaki was just hoping one of you guys knew haha yeah yeah i'm lazy09:15
Shuflahello09:15
Blue-Steelhey guys  i have a friend in  the need of some mirrors in europe .can any of you indicate me a url where i can get a list ?09:15
bezakgrifter_: no worries :)09:15
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bibedeFrysk , nalioth : sorry, I used it some months ago and it worked more or less perfectly09:16
ShuflaWTF - after X upgrade I cannot set up my CRT to 75Hz, even with prev xorg.conf. HorizSync 50-70 && VertRefresh 65-75 and it's still 60Hz :(09:16
deFryskbibe, its a bad resource , believe me09:16
da_bon_bonhey .. ubotu changed its definition abou ubuntuguide09:16
da_bon_bon!09:16
ubotuda_bon_bon: I give up, what is it?09:16
da_bon_bon:P09:16
WMCoolmontopyli: nope, didn't work...the problem seems to be that apt-get has cached the package as the very first item09:16
thoreauputicbimberi: one hopes the new help will end tedious flamewars about ubuntuguide :)09:16
WMCoolmoni suspect if i could get it to skip it and do the rest, i might be able to remove or install it09:17
jc-dentonhi all09:17
topyliWMCoolmon: dpkg doesn't care about apt09:17
bimberithoreauputic: hear hear!  i doubt it though, it will continue to be popular i reckon09:17
jc-dentoni saw that ubuntu has mplayer packages09:17
jc-dentonwhile debian doesn't09:17
topyliWMCoolmon: there's a file you can edit somewhere in /var to fool dpkg into thinking the package is ok. still looking09:18
finlaylabscan anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.09:18
jc-dentonif i install them will i be able to play stuff09:18
WMCoolmontopyli: i tried dpkg -r --force-all, it just tells me the package is in an inconsistent state09:18
jc-dentonor do i have to install codecs and so manually?09:18
thoreauputicjc-denton: that's the general idea I guess ;)09:18
dazvidjc-denton: are you on ubuntu or debian?09:18
thoreauputicjc-denton: yes, you might want w32codecs09:18
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bibedeFrysk : ok, I won't use it with Breezy when it will be released. I am trying to get ATI 3d support, can you please suggest me some useful links to manage ATI and multimedia (mp3 and dvd, mostly) support?09:18
robotgeek!codecs09:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:18
da_bon_bonjc-denton: install "all" codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu09:18
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WMCoolmontopyli: do you know where packages from apt are cached?09:18
topyliWMCoolmon: /var/lib/dpkg/status. make sure to make a backup09:18
bezakhey guys, my screen on my imac is dark (was on mac os x too its just getting old) is there a way I can make X brighten it up?09:19
topyliWMCoolmon: /var/cache/apt/archives. but this is not an apt problem imo09:19
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SlicerDicerhas anybody ever had the mouse vanish from /dev/input/mice?09:19
Shuflawhy ``dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg'' do not setup Monitor section?09:20
topyliShufla: use -phigh rather09:20
jc-dentonubuntu breezy09:20
jc-dentonand what about the w32 codecs09:20
naliothbezak: the same buttons used for OSX should brighten/dim your screen09:20
WMCoolmonwth, my root filesystem is suddenly mounted read only?09:20
WMCoolmonfuck09:21
Shuflatopyli: autoconfig w/o any question :D09:21
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WMCoolmondoes anyone know how to remount my root filesystem as rw O_o09:21
SlicerDicerWMCoolmon: language09:22
topyliShufla: that's 'low' isn't it? oh somebody wants that too? :)09:22
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LinuxNewbiehello there i tried to use the command sudo mount /floppy it gave me a error!09:22
WMCoolmonright, sorry, i'm just dealing with the idea of losing my whole system...09:22
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WMCoolmongonna risk a reboot, i can't do anything09:22
topyliWMCoolmon: obviously it makes it hard for dpkg to install things :)09:22
GaryuAh cool, got the webmail-extension working09:23
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SlicerDicerWMCoolmon: check /etc/fstab09:23
LinuxNewbiedoes the diskette being a fat32 has to do with it?09:23
GaryuE-mails are coming in right now :)09:23
jc-dentonNo candidate version found for w32codecs09:23
dazvidSlicerDicer: he just logged out09:23
jc-dentonlol09:23
Shuflatopyli: heh. well, I've got KVM and Xorg cannot detect my monitor. when I choosed its vert/horiz values fro dpkg-reconfigure, these are f*cking ignored09:23
SlicerDicerdazvid: well dang09:23
dazvidlol09:23
jc-dentonwhat is the use of this package?09:23
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dazvidjc-denton: it contains codecs to play windows media files, and some other handy codecs :)09:23
thoreauputicjc-denton: w32codecs is in hoary-extras09:24
jc-dentonno i mean it's a virtual package or so09:24
jc-dentoni have breezy09:24
SlicerDicer-dazvid, well that was weird... my mouse changed from /dev/input/mice to /dev/input/mouse0 and my marvell chipset started magicly working off the bat lol!09:24
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topylijc-denton: it's a real package09:24
finlaylabscan anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.09:24
jc-dentonthoreauputic: so i have to add another repository?09:24
yahalomany other people having problems with the cdrom in breezy?09:24
thoreauputicjc-denton: well, the codecs package would be the same I think09:24
dazvidSlicerDicer-: well as long as you can use it, theres no problems is there :P09:24
LinuxNewbiehow can i view the floppy disk that has a fat32 file system?09:24
jc-denton?09:24
SlicerDicer-cant argue with that dazvid :)09:24
yahalomnot the breezy cdrom. say when u put a cd in, it says device not accessible or something09:25
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thoreauputicjc-denton: you can probably just d/l it and install with dpkg -i I would guess09:25
jc-dentonfrom where?09:25
robotgeekLinuxNewbie: doesn't it automount to /media/floppy ?09:25
jc-dentonwhere is that extra source?09:25
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LinuxNewbieit said that cannot mount disk09:25
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aftertafLinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /media/floppy09:26
bezak_hey guys, my screen on my imac is dark (was on mac os x too its just getting old) is there a way I can make X brighten it up?09:26
aftertafi neglected a detail last time.....09:26
topyliyahalom: happens to me, with all gnome programs. nautilus, sound-juicer, cd player...09:26
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LinuxNewbieok wait09:26
cevizogluI have a new wireless card for my powerbook, but I'm not sure how to configure it.  here's the lspci -v: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/214209:26
LinuxNewbieill try it wait09:27
naliothbezak_: i answered you earlier, the same buttons that make OSX brighten and dim, should work on ubuntu09:27
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Shuflaf**********************************************ck :( xorg configuration will drive me crazy :(09:27
robotgeekcevizoglu: it's based on a netgear chipset, do it show up in prism54.org?09:27
bezak_nalioth: sorry i dropped out09:27
topyliShufla: you don't configure X with fsck :)09:28
bezak_nalioth: um ok i don't have any buttons its an old imac09:28
jc-dentoni still don't get it09:28
jc-dentonthere should be a debian pakage with the codecs somewhere09:28
naliothbezak_: on your keyboard09:28
cevizoglurobotgeek: I thought it was one of the cards on prism54.org09:28
topylijc-denton: yes, w32codecs09:28
jc-dentonso that i don't have to do it by hand09:28
jc-dentonbut where do i get that package?09:28
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andy_hey guys, back again... sorry09:29
naliothbezak_: F1 and F209:29
topylijc-denton: hoary-extras09:29
dazvidAny luck with amsn andy?09:29
andy_just wondering if anybody is experiencing any distorted sound09:29
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andy_yup i got it working09:29
grifter_I want to install the driver for my on board intel graphics processor. It says the DRI drivers cannot be installed without the latest kernel module. what should i do?09:29
andy_lol only to realise my sound is really distorted for some reason :S09:29
bezak_nalioth: nope f1 opens up help haha09:29
dazvidhah :S09:29
Shuflatopyli: lol :) well... something is broken in hoary :( and since 8:00 i'm  loosing money, cos of new X update :(09:29
jc-dentontopyli: yes but i run breezy09:29
[Chameleon] andy_: in Breezy?09:29
andy_yup09:29
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andy_breezy09:29
andy_5.0409:29
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Lie-Algebrawhen was it released?09:30
bezak_Shufla: mb you shouldn't have updated :P09:30
andy_any ideas anybody?09:30
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TMMhey all09:30
robotgeekcevizoglu: does "lsmod | grep prism" show anything?09:30
[Chameleon] andy_: are you sure you don't mean 5.10?09:30
thoreauputicjc-denton: have a poke around on http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/ (it's only one package)09:30
andy_like when there is bass it just distorts (its flat)09:30
andy_im using 5.0409:30
andy_im certain09:30
Shuflabezak_: it was just security update, isn't it?! :)09:30
andy_5.10 was a mess for me09:30
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TMMcan someone tell me if I can read something about the huge bloody update of x.org today in hoary?09:30
jc-dentonok so there is no breezy extras09:30
jc-dentonthoreauputic: thx09:30
thoreauputicjc-denton: afaik not yet09:30
cevizoglurobotgeek: no09:30
baroslis svga library only used in Framebuffer Console?09:31
Lie-Algebraexplain andy, what happened ?09:31
[Chameleon] andy_: OK, so isn't that Hoary, not Breezy?09:31
[Chameleon] andy_: anyway, what audio chipset?09:31
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[Chameleon] jc-denton: are you looking for libdvdcss2?09:31
andy_sorry hoary09:31
jc-denton[Chameleon] : i guess that too09:31
andy_umm windows sees it as Sigmatel AC97 audio09:31
thoreauputicjc-denton: same place09:31
andy_Im not sure what this sees it as09:31
topylijc-denton: i can't remember where my w32codecs came from. apt doesn't find it now09:31
[Chameleon] andy_: add-in card or on motherboard?09:31
finlaylabscan anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.09:32
jc-dentonyep i saw it09:32
andy_motherboard, im using a laptop09:32
dazvidtopyli: w32codecs comes from Hoary Extras09:32
robotgeekcevizoglu: try doing a 'sudo modprobe prism54' and see if dmesg picks it up09:32
Shuflao f*ck... X&gdm prefers file /root/xorg.conf than /etc/X11/xorg.conf...09:32
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topylidazvid: i guess. could be a package i feched from marillat manually a long time ago too, dunno09:32
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finlaylabsor even post-install setup of an encrypted partion...09:33
[Chameleon] jc-denton: http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/deb/ubuntu/breezy/09:33
cevizoglurobotgeek: no error message, no message at all.  what should I do next?09:33
Shuflahuh :> I need coffe, byebye :)09:33
[Chameleon] jc-denton: I'm watching a DVD on those right now.09:33
robotgeekcevizoglu: your card is plugged in?09:33
jc-dentoncool09:33
cevizoglurobotgeek: lsmod is showing prism now09:33
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CaiN_SAwhy do i need gnome stuff09:34
cevizogluiwconfig shows no wireless extensions09:34
CaiN_SAto install firefox ????09:34
topylicevizoglu: no message = no error = all is well09:34
cevizoglutopyli: that's what I was hoping  :)09:34
jc-dentonwell i just installed the ones from hoary09:34
bezak_Cain_SA: one of the universe's great mysteries09:34
[Chameleon] jc-denton: pls let me know the URL to the w32codecs when you find them09:34
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benplautw00t!09:34
benplautnew/old keyboard!09:34
robotgeekcevizoglu: try configuring it then? use the system -> administration -> networking09:34
jc-denton[Chameleon] : ?09:34
jc-dentonsee above09:34
benplauti love good ol' buckle spring TANDYs :P09:34
topylicevizoglu: basic unix philosophy. be quiet until fail. when fail, fail noisily :)09:34
jc-dentonhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/09:34
jc-dentonu can use these09:35
robotgeekbenplaut: :)09:35
jc-dentonjust dowload09:35
jc-dentonthen dpkg -i09:35
[Chameleon] jc-denton: thx09:35
CaiN_SAbezak, its quite stupid. firefox only need GTK09:35
CaiN_SA:(09:35
andy_whoa this is very odd09:36
[Chameleon] jc-denton: are divx codecs from here usable in Breezy as well?09:36
andy_i just realised the output isnt working either09:36
andy_the sound plays directly from the laptop speakers, but not from any other speakers or headphones09:36
[Chameleon] andy_: could it be an ALSA mixer issue?09:37
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[Chameleon] andy_: have you tried that workaround software mixer? uhh, dmix I think it's called.09:37
TMMahh... x.org vulnerability09:38
andy_umm no i havent, where can i get it?09:38
thoreauputicandy_: tried running alsamixer and unmuting channels?09:38
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jc-denton[Chameleon] : i think so09:38
[Chameleon] jc-denton: thx09:38
jc-dentonmy moviez work with them09:38
LadyLinuxHello all.09:38
jc-dentonhi09:38
andy_oh whoa09:38
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andy_lol the headphone jack was muted09:39
[Chameleon] jc-denton: OK, good enough.09:39
andy_thanks09:39
[Chameleon] andy_: sure09:39
andy_now i wonder how i can fix the distortion09:39
jc-dentonafk09:39
jc-dentonthx4help09:39
Madpilotdoes anyone know where ET-for-Linux puts the ET Players' Manual? (ie which directory?)09:39
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[Chameleon] andy_: umm.. play with the switches...09:39
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LadyLinuxWent by directions for sun jave install would not make deb pkg.  Also cant find kernel source folder to install my modem.09:40
thoreauputicandy_: try setting pcm to about 75-80% and using the master volume control09:40
andy_ok cool.. ill give it a go09:40
skiphello ? can sombody say me who I can find evolution 2.409:40
topyliLadyLinux: if you've installed the linux-source package, the source should be in /usr/src09:41
[Chameleon] andy_: when I had an older AC97 device, one of the unlikely adjustment tracks.09:41
thoreauputic!tell LadyLinux about java09:41
[Chameleon] ... made a difference with regard to distortion09:41
andy_i think i just figure it out09:41
cevizoglurobotgeek: my card is plugged in, but I don't see it in System-> Administration -> Network09:41
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andy_in kmix i went to the switches tab then under PCM Out Path & Mute i made it "post 3D" instead of "pre 3D"09:41
andy_now its all good09:41
robotgeekcevizoglu: does the lspci output change?09:42
andy_thanks so much everyone09:42
cevizoglurobotgeek: yes it did, would you like me to paste it?09:42
robotgeeksure :)09:42
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familyis it safe to upgrade to breezy via apt-get?09:43
cevizogluhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/214309:43
andy_im gonna go now09:43
andy_thanks again guys09:43
jblackfamily: I believe its not recommended. However, I'm using it here with a few quirks.09:44
[Chameleon] aite, later andy_09:44
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[Chameleon] thoreauputic: hehe09:44
=== LadyLinux needs serious help to be able to install both files. Read docs did all correctly and they didn't work.
familyhmm.. what is the safest way?09:44
=== [Chameleon] has updated nearly 300 packages in the last two days in Breezy
familyanything broken?09:44
robotgeekcevizoglu: the card doesn't show up anymore?? with the module loaded?09:44
[Chameleon] family: not that I can tell.09:44
cevizoglurobotgeek: doesn't show up where?09:45
[Chameleon] family: actually, xine is a bit broken.09:45
jblackNot seriously for me. They could be for you. If you move to breezy be ready for heavy updates. They updated 126 packages last night.09:45
[Chameleon] family: don't know if it was before the updates though because I just now got it working .)09:45
[Chameleon] ;)09:45
robotgeekcevizoglu: cause u have posted the cardbus controller output, it doesn't show netgear anywhere09:45
familyoh..09:45
familywell, i'll give it a shot09:45
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familyhas the gnome window manager improved since hoary?09:46
finlaylabscan anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.09:46
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aftertaf73 for hoary too.09:47
=== LadyLinux get's this error when installing modem: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory
familyfinlaylabs, try encfs09:47
familyit's user space09:47
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finlaylabsfamily: can do whole /home?09:47
familyand easy to set up09:47
familyyes09:47
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familyyou will have to copy the files09:48
cevizoglurobotgeek: that's right, it seems to be gone09:48
admin_hello i cant mount the floppy disk drive pls help09:48
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GingerAleone of my PC's stopped being able to connect to the net09:48
aftertafadmin_:  sudo mount /media/floppy09:48
fekmoin09:48
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GingerAleI have a broadband connection and the cables and router work, but that particular system will not find the network09:48
finlaylabsfamily: will have a look! What would happen if you hotplug such an encrypted dev, would it prompt for a pwd?09:48
jblackfamily: Remember that update I just mentioned? After letting the system install the update, my keyboard stopped working. :)09:48
aftertafGingerAle:  type dmesg in console...09:48
GingerAleIt cannot find it under windows, or ubuntu live09:48
admin_mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:49
familyfinlaylabs, it prompts for a password on mount09:49
GingerAleok09:49
bob2LadyLinux: then you'll need to install it09:49
aftertafGingerAle:  could be a dead NIC.09:49
admin_error09:49
familyjblack, that doesn't sound so bad..09:49
bob2LadyLinux: what wiki page are you reading?09:49
admin_another way?09:49
GingerAleaftertaf, how do I fix that?09:49
finlaylabsfamily: sounds ideal. Looking now...09:49
jblackfamily: No keyboard isn't bad?09:49
LadyLinuxbob2: what do I need to install?09:49
aftertafif its a dead NIC, changing NIC is only option.09:49
GingerAleI thinks it hardware because several live CD's cannot find the net either with that machine09:49
familylol09:49
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familyi guess it is09:49
admin_but when i go to the device manager the disketter is there09:49
admin_pls help09:49
admin_badly needed09:49
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jblackfamily: however, a reboot fixed it. ;)09:50
aftertafadmin_:  if you right click on diskette and choose mount, no joy?09:50
familysee! i was right the first time :)09:50
admin_in the my computer i cant see the diskette09:50
aftertafadmin_:  http://www.alwanza.com/howto/linux/floppy.html09:50
bezak_hey guys how do i make the double click on the title bar make it wrap up instead of maximese09:50
bob2LadyLinux: what documentation you reading now?09:50
aftertafbezak_:  change window behaviour09:51
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familyok, off to mess things up09:51
familythanks09:51
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admin_ok09:51
bezak_aftertaf: tah09:51
aftertaf;) bezak_09:52
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Wilfhuzzah!09:53
Wilf;)09:53
CaiN_SAok i need help09:53
CaiN_SAi added a new user09:53
LadyLinuxbob2: 1)HowTo build the Java package version 1.5.0 Update 4 (2)How to Install and setup a Smartlink WinModem Driver from Source Code (3)BinaryDriverHowto/SmartLinkModem09:53
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Wilfanyone know how to get apt/synaptic through a proxy that requires authentication?09:53
CaiN_SAnow why doesnt mu new user have access to the sound ?09:53
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LadyLinuxbob2: I follow the directions and get nowhere.09:54
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bob2LadyLinux: you'd have to give me the url...09:54
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robotgeekcevizoglu: weird09:55
aftertafCaiN_SA:  try sudo adduser username audio09:55
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CrashBoxne1 know how to get limewire installed on ubuntu?09:55
aftertafWilf:  yes.09:55
bob2"anyone"09:55
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:55
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bob2then download limewire from their website as a tarball09:55
LadyLinuxbob2: hold on while I find them.09:55
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aftertaf!apt-proxy09:55
ubotuaftertaf: Do they come in packets of five?09:55
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djcheezecakei'm trying to test out to see if ppl can access my apache server...if u would like to volunteer please msg me...thanks..=)09:56
Wilfi've tried editing the proxy file in /etc/apt or wherever it is, to no avail..09:56
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johnnybezakhow many of you guys are running breezy?09:56
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Wilfwhen i try to update repositories, always says failed, proxy authentication required09:56
=== bibe too
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bob2Wilf: sounds like a problem with your network09:56
johnnybezakis it alright atm or still really crazy?09:56
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Wilfwhen i want to access the internet etc09:57
dazvidDoes anyone here have Cedega working?09:57
Wilfit pops up with a box09:57
Wilfwhere i enter a username and password09:57
[Chameleon] johnnybezak: I find it very usable. This will certainly be the last RC.09:57
Wilfbut the box never pops up in synaptic...09:57
aftertafwilf... does your proxy require authentification?09:57
[Chameleon] *most certainly I mean09:57
Wilfyes09:57
[Chameleon] brb09:57
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bob2dazvid: #cedega is a better place to get help09:57
dazvidrighto09:57
bibejohnnybezak : it basically works perfect, just a few issues (ATI 3D acceleration)09:57
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robotgeekcevizoglu: i am taking off now, all the best with your wireless09:58
LadyLinuxbob2: java https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions09:58
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johnnybezakbibe: ok i might give it a crack (f-spot isnt working for me hoping an update would do the trick)09:58
cevizoglurobotgeek: ok09:58
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shaymhello09:59
bob2LadyLinux: that's from you not installing java-package as it explains at the beginning09:59
LadyLinuxbob2: smartlink (1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 (2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowto?highlight=%28smartlink%2909:59
shaymi need some help to configuring enemy territory into 32bits chroot09:59
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shaymi'm using ubuntu amd64 version09:59
bob2LadyLinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java is a lot simpler09:59
johnnybezakdo i just have to change to the source.list over to breezy and then dist-upgrade?09:59
aftertaf!apt-with-proxy10:00
uboturumour has it, apt-with-proxy is To use apt or Synaptic behind a proxy, create a new file called etc/apt/apt.conf and add the line "Acquire::http::Proxy "http://[toto:pass@] 192.168.0.1:8081";;", not forgetting to change all details relevant to your setup10:00
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ercuevai've got a question... about ssh and ubuntu...10:00
youngcoder!query10:00
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ubotuyoungcoder: Bugger all, i dunno10:00
thoreauputiczorba64: plaese turn that off10:00
youngcoderlol10:00
nigeanyone know how to setup dual monitors in linux10:00
nigewell ubuntu10:01
nigewith xorg ?10:01
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bob2nige: search the wiki for Xinerama10:01
ercuevahow can I set up a ssh server in ubuntu?10:01
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thoreauputicercueva: insatll openssh-server10:01
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thoreauputic*install10:01
CaiN_SAthx aftertaf10:01
nigeokay10:02
LadyLinuxbob2:  Did you get the 2 for the modem?10:02
nigei will try10:02
LinuxNewbiehello can you help me how to setup the printer in ubuntu? its a lexmark10:02
ercuevabut I am getting problems with: apt-get intall ssh-server10:02
Hoxzercan I setup ubuntu start xchat when the system starts?10:02
thoreauputicercueva: openssh-server10:02
ercuevait told me that there is a dependency with sss-client10:02
LinuxNewbiecan yoy help me with the printer?10:02
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johnnybezakguys to upgrade to hoary do i just have to change all my hoary's to breezy's in my sources.list then do a dist-upgrade?10:03
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ercuevaOk, I do this...  apt-get install openssh-server10:03
ompaulLinuxNewbie, if you click on system -administration - printing you might have more luck if you wait we all saw you the first time and this took time - so the rebuke cost more then actually waiting :)10:03
jsgotangcojohnnybezak, bingo10:03
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy10:03
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:03
ercuevaand it told me that there are dependencies....10:03
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LadyLinuxbob2:  I have no internet with the ubuntu.10:03
CrashBoxbob2: i keep gettin an error saying i'm using the wrong version of java when trying to run "sh ./runLime.sh" in lime wire10:03
ooloni was having trouble starting the ssh server10:03
CrashBoxbut i have java 1.4.210:04
thoreauputicercueva: then you have broken your /etc/apt/sources.list10:04
ercuevathis is what I get openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2) but 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu1 will be installed10:04
LinuxNewbieok thnx10:04
thoreauputicercueva: is this breezy?10:04
ercuevahow could I fix this?10:04
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ercuevathis is ubuntu 5.1010:05
LadyLinuxbob2:  I need to get these 2 items running to get on the internet.10:05
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jdermerhi10:05
thoreauputicercueva: ah - it may be that the current updates are causing problems10:05
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jdermeris there a prime95 for linux ?10:05
thoreauputicercueva: I would wait a while and try again10:05
skipjdermer,  yes ..10:05
ercueva:(10:05
skipprime fpr linux google ..10:06
jdermerskip, i see a mprime and a sprime10:06
ercuevaso, what can I do then? just wait?10:06
oolonwhen starting open ssh i get the Could not load host key: error but i have host keys in the dir /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key10:06
thoreauputicercueva: you realise breezy is still in developmeant, right?10:06
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skipjdermer,  you mean the stress testing tool or ?10:06
skipbruning cpu tool10:06
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skipBurning ..10:06
jdermero10:06
ercuevano, I didn't.... the names are not clear enogh actually.....10:06
jdermerthe stress test i guess10:06
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jdermerto make sure my cpu is ok and stuff10:07
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thoreauputicercueva: the current "stable" is hoary10:07
jdermerthe blend test i think its called10:07
ercuevamore if, as it is my case, one is not english speaker...10:07
Bateau_hey, i got this code, for a program. and it needs to be compiled (or something) what do i use? and how? (here is the code http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10042 )10:07
skipjdermer,  yes there is a tool  cpuburn ? I think and prime for LInux10:07
skipI think mprime is the name ?10:07
thoreauputicercueva: get 5.0410:07
ercuevathroreauputic: thanks a lot for your help.... u know when it is planned to realease the new stable?10:07
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LadyLinuxbob2:   you there?10:08
thoreauputicercueva: October 1310:08
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ercuevathoreauputic: ah, ok... I could wait then... or it's there a way to go from 5.10 to 5.04 ?10:08
zero_Domzgh10:08
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johnnybezakabout to do my breezy install here goes nothing *crosses fingers*10:09
zero_Domzchat?10:09
thoreauputicercueva: not without much pain and knowledge, no :)10:09
jdermerskip, yea ill try mprime10:09
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jdermerubuntu seems to be running great on my new rig10:09
jdermeri got rid of my amd one10:09
ercuevathoreauputic:  ok, it will be easy to update to the stable version I guess.. .. am I OK?10:09
johnnybezakany people here big vim users10:09
jdermercause ubuntu hated it lol10:09
zero_Domzhi10:09
jdermeri now got Celeron D 330J, Aopen 915G Mobo, 512MB PC3200, 80GB IDE10:10
thoreauputicercueva: you will need to reinstall if you are using 5.10 and want 5.0410:10
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[Chameleon] johnnybezak: good luck with your upgrade.10:10
[Chameleon] johnnybezak: I use vim, but I'm not extremely skilled at its keyboard shortcuts10:10
thoreauputicercueva: when 5.10 goes stable you will have no trouble updating to it10:10
ompaulBateau_, please read the guys web page - that might be part of something else - the way he says in the text then he asks you to contact him10:10
ercuevathoreauputic: I mean... when the new stable release will be out, I guess it will be easy to upgrade from 5.10 (unstable) to the stable one... u know what I mean?10:11
johnnybezak[Chameleon] : how would you do a find/replace?10:11
ercuevathoreauputic: OK---_)10:11
[Chameleon] johnnybezak: hmm... I know find is forwardslash10:11
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ercuevathoreauputic:I ll wait then....10:11
johnnybezakthats a 541 meg upgrade haha10:11
thoreauputicercueva: yes, if you keep 5.10 - but there *will* be bugs for the next month or so10:11
jdermererror while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:11
jdermerwut does that mean10:11
luckyabaladylinux: modem?10:12
ercuevathoreauputic: OK... I'll thing about then....10:12
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ercuevathoreauputic: could I help telling this error I got... or it is an "easy" to detect error?10:12
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ompaulBateau_, for C:: gcc -o foo foo.c << >> C++:: g++ -o foo foo.cpp but you have to put that code into foo.cpp first :) and it is a C++ program10:12
LadyLinuxluckyyaba: Yes smartlink modem.  I read the wiki docs and can't find the kernel source.10:13
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thoreauputicercueva: all bug reports would be gratefully accepted, I guess - as long as they are useful ones ;)10:13
ompaulthoreauputic, and ercueva  and new ones10:13
[Chameleon] which reminds me... I have one to write10:13
thoreauputicyes10:13
luckyabaladylinux: dialup, dsl, ?10:13
_mindspinany xp experts here (cough)10:13
ercuevathoreauputic: how do I report an error then?....10:13
ercuevathoreauputic:  sorry but I am really newby...:(10:14
[Chameleon] _mindspin: what do you need? query me if you don't want to be mocked10:14
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ompaul_mindspin, please go to #windows w10:14
thoreauputicercueva: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/10:14
LadyLinuxluckyyaba: dial-up.10:14
thoreauputicercueva: for things in "main" like openssh-server10:14
wasiwatucan someone tell me if it matters if I have x86 Ubuntu installed on an AMD machine?10:14
ompaulwasiwatu, it does not10:15
aftertafhas anyone had any problems with the latest stable updates for hoary?10:15
LadyLinuxluckyyaba: I can't get the modem drivers to make right. can't find kernel in /usr/src.10:15
wasiwatucool, so why do they have separate release cd's?10:15
Kalidarnjust a question, will the 5.04 PXE configs work with 5.10 version?10:15
HrdwrBoBfor install?10:15
HrdwrBoByes10:15
Bateau_thanks ompaul :D it worked :D10:15
ercuevathoreauputic: that's great....:) thanks... BTW, what it the best way to control my desktop remotely? is it VNC the best way? it is not secure, is it? that's wy I wanted to set up ssh-server10:15
thoreauputicLadyLinux: this is some winmodem rubbish, is it ?10:15
thoreauputicercueva: well, look at freenx10:16
topyliLadyLinux: is that an error message you're getting? "can't find..."?10:16
thoreauputic!freenx10:16
ubotuthoreauputic: I don't know, could you explain it?10:16
thoreauputicbah10:16
LadyLinuxluckyyaba: Yes but there is linux drivers for it.10:16
thoreauputicercueva: hang on a second10:16
thoreauputicercueva: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX10:17
bibeLadyLinux : did you install linux-source package?10:17
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aftertafhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/214510:17
wasiwatudoes anyone have experience with installing AMTEL drivers for wireless?10:17
aftertaf^-----error messages after stable update10:17
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LadyLinuxbibe: I attempted to 'make' the source to be able to install the .deb pkgs.  It cannot find /usr/src for the kernel.10:18
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ercuevathoreauputic:  that's really useful...:) I'll have a look!.. thanks a million and have a good time in the other side of the world (I am in Spain)...:)10:19
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thoreauputicercueva: enjoy :)10:19
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topyliaftertaf: try 'apt-get -f install'10:19
bibeLadyLinux : yes, but to compile the drivers you need linux kernel sources (or, at least, linux kernel headers)10:19
LadyLinuxbibe: smartlink addresses - (1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 (2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowto?highlight=%28smartlink%2910:19
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LadyLinuxbibe: I went by these directions and couldn't get past 'make stage.10:20
rejdenre10:20
aftertaftopyli:  ok, am doing10:20
thoreauputicLadyLinux:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:20
aftertaftopyli:  cheers, did it ok.10:20
linux-noobto anybody: can i install a game installer for windows xp in linux?10:20
bibeLadyLinux : did you do 'To begin with, you will need to ensure you have your linux kernel source installed.'?10:20
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: does that work offline?10:21
thoreauputicLadyLinux: ah, no it won't10:21
thoreauputicLadyLinux: sorry10:21
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hexionhi10:21
ompaulhello hexion10:21
ubuntu342wow.. ubuntu is amazing10:21
thoreauputicLadyLinux: catch 22 :/10:21
hexionwhat's the file I have to edit to change my path?10:21
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hexionanyone knows?10:22
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aftertafhexion:  path? define please10:22
Tomcat_linux-noob: Yes, wine and cedega can do it... might not work though.10:22
thoreauputichexion: /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc10:22
wasiwatuompaul: think you could help me with an AMTEL wireless dirver problem?10:22
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aftertafthoreauputic:  rapid fire... :D10:22
thoreauputicaftertaf: :)10:22
hexionwhats the difference between editing profile and bashrc?10:22
linux-noobTomcat_: so i have to install cedega first before installing the game?10:22
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: does that command work offline?10:23
Tomcat_linux-noob: Yes.10:23
humulushexion: you edit two different files :)10:23
aftertafbasjrc is the init file for your shell interpreter10:23
hexionok10:23
thoreauputichexion: read the files - I think /etc/profile will source the other one10:23
hexionthanks :)10:23
aftertaf /s/j/h10:23
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: yes.10:23
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oolonanyone know how to start the sshd sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start gives me host key errors10:23
humulushexion: profile is invoked by a login shell bashrc when you start a shell i.e. terminal10:23
oolonman pages arn't all that helpful to me10:23
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: I need both the modem and jave running to get online.10:23
thoreauputicoolon: that's th eright command10:23
oolonthoreauputic, it tells me it can't load host keys but i have them10:24
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thoreauputicLadyLinux: if you have a serial port, save yourself a headache and buy a second hand hardware modem10:24
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: I need a list of compatable 56k PCI modems,10:25
thoreauputicLadyLinux: any external serial modem will work with linux10:25
ompauloolon, to run I sshd I use dropbear10:26
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ompauloolon, mucky but works10:26
thoreauputicLadyLinux: you would just need to configure it - no need for drivers10:26
topyliLadyLinux: pci modems tend to be winmodems. get a real modem10:26
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: 9 pin serial?  Would it be 56k?10:26
oolonompaul, is it a gui? can i apt it?10:26
topyliLadyLinux: yes10:26
thoreauputicLadyLinux: my modem is 56k - most are10:27
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ompauloolon, not a gui and certainly it is sudo apt-get install dropbear10:27
aftertafwilf.... don't mock10:27
oolonompaul, getting it now thanks10:27
hexionI just want to add ./ :D10:27
hexionIt doesn't work :?10:27
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hexionif [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ] ; then10:27
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ompaulwilf there are parts of the planet where that would be useful10:27
hexion  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:./"10:27
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hexionelse10:27
hexion  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:./"10:27
hexionfi10:27
aftertafhexion:  dont PASTE10:28
hexionyes.. but after editing and launching a terminal, I still can't run programs in ./ without typing ./program10:28
aftertafsee topic10:28
aftertaf!pastebin10:28
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:28
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: There is a void in used modems where I'm from.  95% is new stuff.10:28
aftertafor  #flood10:28
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hexionIt was a single phrase10:28
hexionIt doesn't bother to anyone (just you)10:28
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thoreauputicLadyLinux: you don't know anyone with an old modem in a drawer somwhere?10:29
hexionrules are made to moderate certain attitudes10:29
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LadyLinuxthoreauputic: nope.10:29
hexionnot to be applied in stupid cases just because THEY ARE THE RULES10:29
hexion:S10:29
xguestfhello!10:29
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oolonompaul, ok i got it do i just run it or is there a config?10:29
Wilfand a 9.6kbit er10:29
foxy123hi, does anyone know anything about auto.net script and what it is supposed to do?10:29
LadyLinuxwill: you do?10:29
hexionthat's just fascism10:30
xguestfsomebody help from Ubuntu advocacy10:30
aftertafi forgot i had an 'ignore' function :D10:30
ompauloolon, if it installed okay you might be able to use it10:30
hexionpoor...10:30
oolonompaul, yeah no prob with install10:30
topylihexion: you can add . to your path, but it's not very wise10:30
ompauloolon, try it10:30
oolonompaul, as root?10:31
ompaulssh -C username@127.0.0.110:31
ompauloolon, no10:31
hexionI know topyli.. but still I can do it. The fact is that I have edited the file but It doen't work10:31
oolonah thanks10:31
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topylihexion: $PATH:.10:31
foxy123I am trying to configure autofs and need some help here... anyone?10:31
hexion...but stil I "want to" do it (I wanted to say)10:31
hexion:)10:32
mchasardhi just saw edubuntu which WM is proposed on this new distribution  ?10:32
HrdwrBoBmchasard: I would imagine metacity10:32
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Is there any place online that sells them other that ebay?10:32
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mchasardso its gnome  ...10:32
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topylihexion: you have an extra trailing / there. dunno if it hurts10:33
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thoreauputicLadyLinux: I don't know really - I would guess so10:33
hexiontopyli: If I do that, changes will not be permanent10:33
thoreauputicLadyLinux: I inherited mine when a friend got broadband ;)10:33
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: I'm gonna download the headers for now.10:33
mchasardsomeone tries edubuntu ?10:33
hexiontopily: I've changed /etc/profile  but the output of "export" doen't reflect the changes10:34
oolonompaul, i wanna run the server so i can connect fron another box to it10:34
topylihexion: you can add "PATH=$PATH:." to your bashrc. then make sure you source the file or start a new shell10:34
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hexionok, I'll try. Thanks :)10:35
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topylihexion: profile files are only read on new login shells, bashrc for every new shell10:35
hexionok10:35
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Ok any idea on how to get java installed?10:35
thoreauputicLadyLinux: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb <--java ready to roll10:35
jtan325anyone know where the log of stuff that got recently installed is saved?10:35
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jtan325i.e. in synaptic you can view your "history"10:35
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jtan325where is that file actually located?10:36
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dirk_hi @all10:36
ompauloolon, the thing is that if you can login  locally then remote should not be a problem if you can't log in locally then you have problems10:36
ebfto anybody here: how can i install yahoo messenger ?\10:36
hexionIt worked :)10:36
hexionthanks a lot topyli10:36
foxy123gaim is no good for you?10:36
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Thanx so much hon.10:36
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topylihexion: good. now i'd advice you to revert back to normal :-)10:36
thoreauputicLadyLinux: no worries :)10:37
oolonompaul, i was able to connect to localhost but not from my other box10:37
bob2ebf: gaim can do YIM already10:37
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finlaylabsanyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?10:37
ompauloolon, does it have the client software?10:37
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hexionI know topyli :)10:37
nigeI tried to use xinearama10:37
topylihwh10:37
oolonyes10:37
topyliheh even10:37
ompauloolon, are you using IPs?10:37
nigebut it i still get a cloned image on my screen10:37
ebfbob2: can u elaborate pls10:37
hexionmany people has adviced me (mainly mi operating-systems teachers)10:38
oolonyes10:38
nigeI want 2 separate desktops10:38
bob2ebf: on what?10:38
bob2ebf: just use gaim, which you already have installed10:38
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: If I install the headers and java, then everything else will work?10:38
ebfbob2: installing yahoo messenger in linux?10:38
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oolonompaul, 192.168.0.3 for example10:38
z|banditohmm10:38
ian_ebf: open the program called "GAIM", add a new account, choose "Yahoo IM"10:38
foxy123efb: configure yahoo account and that's all10:38
henk_I'm looking for a tool (kde) that will allow me to use the mediakeys on my keyboard. like the volume wheel etc anyone know what i should use ?10:39
bob2ebf: no, do not install yahoo messenger, it's crap10:39
foxy123in gaim10:39
thoreauputicLadyLinux: I don't know - I haven't done it :) Probably10:39
ompauloolon, ssh -C username@192.168.0.310:39
ebfbob2: but we need it here?10:39
luckyabamy gaim doesn't show yim under accounts?10:39
hexionoh, another issue...10:39
bob2ebf: no you don't10:39
ompauloolon, does is ask for a password?10:39
luckyabanevermind10:39
luckyabayes it does10:39
bob2ebf: applications -> internet -> gaim10:39
hexionis there any way to launch apt-get dist-upgrade and force it to download X packages at a time?10:39
thoreauputicLadyLinux: what sort of brain-dead modem requires java??10:39
oolonompaul, it just times out but i can shh to the other from linux10:39
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ebfbob2: ok w8 ill try10:39
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ompauloolon, what is the 'other' ?10:40
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oolona mac10:40
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: It's not the modem that needs Java, it's Netzero.10:40
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bob2hexion: yes, but it would be painful. why?10:40
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hexionI explain... actually my apt-get downloads just make a single download at a time... but that way I don't waste the whole downloading-rate of my ISP10:41
hexionof my ADSL..10:41
thoreauputicLadyLinux: argh - get a new ISP :(10:41
nigehow do i get my xorg info?10:41
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: It would have been easier with one problem for the final outcome, but 2. eeeeekkkkk10:41
hexionsometimes apt-get downloaded 2 or 3 files at a time.. and it was much faster10:41
ompauloolon, paste the output of 'iptables -L' in paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:42
oolonnige cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:42
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Any ideas???10:42
thoreauputicLadyLinux: Netzero is your ISP right? What sort of stupid ISP *requires* java? Amazing10:42
hexionbut I don't know how to control the number of downloads apt-get make10:42
dirk_knows anyone here the name of a german ubuntu-channel?10:43
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Yes netzero is, but it's dialer is java script using web browser.10:43
ompaul#ubuntu-de10:43
dirk_ompaul, thx10:43
thoreauputicLadyLinux: looks like they also require Internet Exploder?10:43
ompaul!de10:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.10:43
finlaylabsanyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption? resierfs4 fullstop?10:43
ompauldirk_, np10:43
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thoreauputicLadyLinux: javascript != java10:44
clem_yeatsanybody knows a good file splitter ??10:44
z|banditois there any local ubuntu script (included by default) that connects to a hostname 'notty' via sshd?10:44
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Yes it does and I use firefox in windows.  Close out Exploder after connect.10:44
juerryhello, i've just installed ubuntu in a external-USB device10:44
ompaulclem_yeats, there is a program called split and another one called cat << that puts the parts back together10:44
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LadyLinuxthoreauputic: I hate Microsh|+10:44
juerrybut when GRUB starts, it give me this10:44
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juerrypivot-root: No such file or directory10:44
juerry/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file10:44
juerryKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!10:44
clem_yeatsompaul : is split a unix command ?10:44
z|banditoi notice there are a lot of packages available for update today, it's been a couple of days since i did apt-get upgrade and i notice some weird sshd activity on this box.. i'm the only one likely to ssh to the box...10:45
thoreauputicLadyLinux: so how will you connect with linux? Run IE in crossover office or something?10:45
juerrysomeone can help me?10:45
thoreauputicLadyLinux: get a decent ISP10:45
ompaulclem_yeats, it is available on Linux10:45
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oolonompaul,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/214610:45
Sperm-Workanyone in here ever installed debian?10:45
thoreauputicSperm-Work: of course10:45
z|banditoare these common/acceptible processes or does this look suspicious to anyone else?  root      1740  0.0  1.5  14460  1948 ?        Ss   20:02   0:00 sshd: maluniu [priv] 10:45
z|banditomaluniu   1743  0.2  2.0  15088  2644 ?        S    20:02   0:23 sshd: maluniu@notty10:45
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Nope Netzero has a deb installer using mozilla.10:46
clem_yeatsompaul : thanks10:46
juerry...10:46
thoreauputicLadyLinux: are you wedded to Netzero or something?10:46
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Sperm-Workthoreauputic after u get done installing the base system for it and ur at the terminal what do you do to install kde?10:47
ebfbob2: i tried it and it works, oh i really i appreacite you all guys helping me10:47
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ompauloolon, I have no idea why it won't work but I bet it has to do with the mac10:47
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: No just the only one I can use at current residence.10:47
ompauloolon, the reason I say this is because I have two ubuntu boxes here and I can get from one to the other no problems10:47
hexionbob2: can you tell me how to do that? (setting apt to download 3 files at a time)10:47
ompauloolon, ps auwx | more10:48
oolonompaul, thats whats wierd i can connect to the mac no prob but not to the linux hmm let me try linux to linux10:48
ompauloolon, igore notat10:48
ompauloolon, igore that last one10:48
juerryexit10:48
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bob2hexion: why do you want to do that?10:48
humehi...got a brand new hedghog installation where my screen shows a msg "Input not supported" when X starts and starts in lower resolution, however, when i switch to console 1 and back (Alt+F7) it disappears and shows correct soultion. Anyone havin any ideas? xorg.log gives me no direct clue.10:48
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thoreauputicSperm-Work: erm - you are installing from a bare bones install? You need to know what you need for that - why not run tasksel ?10:49
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LadyLinuxthoreauputic: I just remembered, I could use AOL prepaid crap. NOT.10:49
luckyabahexion: i think you just type the packages one after another with a space between10:49
hexionbob2: because when apt-get (sometimes) downloaded 3 files at a time, it was very much faster10:49
bob2hexion: oh, you mean simulatenously? no.10:49
hexionluckyaba: thats correct in apt-get install, but not to apt-get dist-upgrade10:50
oolonompaul, it works linux to linux so it's the mac i'll figure what to do with the mac Thanks :D10:50
finlaylabsanyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?10:50
hexionbob2: yes, I reffered on that, my english is not very good :)10:50
luckyabahexion: oh10:50
ompauloolon, check your version on the mac - maybe use ubuntu on the mac and get rid of the problem :)10:50
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oolonompaul, :)10:50
thoreauputicSperm-Work: else apt-get install x-window-system-core kdm kde  (and whatever else you need)10:50
baroslwhich is better, grdesktop or tsclient?10:51
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gsuveghow can i put suspend my notebook on konsole ?10:51
gsuvegi would like test on breezy10:51
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Thank you so much for you help.  Is there anything else otherthan the kernel-headers that I would need?10:51
bob2gsuveg: sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh10:52
ompaulgsuveg, #kubuntu might be a better bet for that10:52
thoreauputicLadyLinux: I don't really know to be honest - I haven't read the wiki pages you referenced10:52
gsuvegbob2: thanks10:52
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Like the folder to add to the modem script file so it can find the damn thin?10:52
thoreauputicLadyLinux: I doubt you'd need the full kernel source10:52
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gsuvegompaul: why ?10:53
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thoreauputicLadyLinux: you know how to install those debs manually, right?10:53
hexionhow can I see motherboard and cpu temperature?10:53
ompaulkonsole = kubuntu maybe there is more info there - like a button they have?10:53
ompaulgsuveg, sorry that last one was for you10:54
gsuvegah. sry10:54
hexion(like in motherboard monitor)10:54
z|banditoi think i got rooted10:54
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gsuvegconsole < its better ? and i dont thinks thats kubuntu relatet ;)10:54
z|banditowas there a big security update recently?10:54
hexionz|bandito: type " sudo apt-get upgrade" :)10:55
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LadyLinuxthoreauputic: This is the error I got.   *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory10:55
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z|banditoi know how to do that, thanks :)  I did it tonight and noticed there are many packages10:55
z|banditoit's only been a few days since i last checked, so i was wondering if it was a recent security issue or related to my recent installation of some new software packages10:55
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gsuvegompaul: it works10:56
thoreauputicLadyLinux: but you didn't have the headers, right ?10:56
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LadyLinuxthoreauputic: This is the error I recieved when I tried to 'make install' the modem drivers.10:56
gilleshi10:56
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hexiondo u use breezy or hoary?10:56
shawarmaIf i want to order Breezy CDs, when should I place my order in ShipIt?10:56
cesari am using breezy x86-6410:56
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gsuvegshawarma: its not released yet10:57
gillesi've got BIG problems with nvidia drivers and opengl apps ; someone can help me ?10:57
z|banditoi killed some suspicious looking sshd sessions and upon inspecting /var/log/auth.log i see evidence of an attack; likely automated by a script10:57
shawarmagsuveg: i know.10:57
seliniumgilles: On hoary or Breezy?10:57
shawarmagsuveg: But usually it takes a month or so for your order to be processed and in a month it will be released.10:58
z|banditowhat pam_unix?10:58
LadyLinuxthoreauputic: Did you get the error I place in here?10:58
hexionanybody knows how can I see motherboard and cpu temperature?10:58
z|banditowhats10:58
gillesselinium:  right now i'm using kubuntu hoary-x8610:58
seliniumhi thoreauputic! 89 security updates! wow!10:58
shawarmahexion: /proc/acpi/thermal/temperature, I think.10:58
johnnybezakf*ckin hell setting up smb is like pulling teeth10:58
ebfbob2: can i make gaim automatic loading of yahoo?10:58
johnnybezakhexion: just look in your bios10:58
thoreauputicLadyLinux: yes, but I can't really help you, sorry10:59
f00li5hhexion: apci -ta10:59
bob2ebf: sure10:59
seliniumgilles: i dont use kubuntu but what is the problem?10:59
hexionshawarma: it doen't work, I think it's not well configured10:59
thoreauputicLadyLinux: i don't know enough about the compilation etc10:59
f00li5hhexion: acpi -ta sorry10:59
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shawarmahexion: Ok, then your motherboard is not supported.. Maybe lm-sensors will do the trick.10:59
hexionNo support for device type: thermal10:59
MrSmileHi people!10:59
ebfbob2: without the hazzle of loggin in the gaim window?10:59
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f00li5hhexion: that's terrible news10:59
seliniumhexion: xsensors10:59
MrSmileI am a newbie.11:00
bob2ebf: I don't know what you mean11:00
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hexionseliniuim: it's a new package?11:00
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MrSmileI want to know what might be the difference from ubuntu and debian... My sister needs a linux system and I don't know what to install.11:00
gillesselinium: first i've got big pbs with nv driver, then i want opengl so i installed nvidia-glx, and after i tryed nvidia's latest driver ; now everything is broken and i'm using vesa driver11:00
johnnybezakMrSmile: install ubuntu, its just more desktop friendly than debian11:01
aftertafubuntu is debian made easier, MrSmile11:01
thoreauputicMrSmile: ubuntu is easier :)11:01
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ompaulMrSmile, ubuntu will make your life and hers easier11:01
ebfbob2: this linux is for multi-user computer. So what im trying to ask is how would i configure yahoo messenger to run without going to add an account in gaim?11:01
seliniumhexion: Have a look at xsensors (google it)11:01
MrSmileIn howfar?! Has it a graphical installation program?!11:01
zorba64MrSmile, we recommend Ubuntu!11:01
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MrSmileAnd what about the latest packages?!11:01
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SeveasMrSmile, it has a text-based installer which asks only 3 simple questions11:01
Seveasso it's easy11:01
aftertafMrSmile:  mid october, breezy wil have11:01
bob2ebf: you run gaim and it connects, that's what it does.11:01
Seveasand it has very recent packages11:01
bob2it's more than 3 questions11:02
seliniumgilles, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the walkk through. It should sort you out11:02
hexionselinium: Im on it :)11:02
ebfbob2: so no way of getting into yahoo without entering gaim first?11:02
johnnybezakMrSmile: its just debian setup in a desktop sensible way11:02
ompaulMrSmile, try it you'll like it, your install it on all your machines as soon as you do :)11:02
zorba64but less than 2011:02
bob2ebf: you seem very confused11:02
bob2ebf: you're using gaim to access YIM11:02
MrSmileI will, i will....11:02
gillesselinium: but i also tried with breezy live: i enable 3d drivers; it work for say 5 minutes and after nothing responding11:02
MrSmile:)11:02
bob2ebf: accessing it without gaim running makes no sense11:02
aftertafMrSmile:  you'll have a big smile, dude ...11:02
johnnybezakhave you guys tested out the new gnome?11:02
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aftertafMrSmile:  what are you running right now?11:03
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MrSmilefor me gentoo as a developer is the overkill and I am very satisfied. But I don't like to install gentoo on a user machine.11:03
bob2LadyLinux: yes11:03
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bob2gentoo is terrible for developers11:03
bob2since it means they never learn how to do things properly11:03
bob2e.g. library transitions11:03
seliniumhexion, http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/14/0359254&mode=thread11:03
z|banditogoddammit11:03
hexionselinium: do I download .deb or .tar.gz?11:03
z|banditoit's trying to get back in!11:03
z|banditolook http://ayakonix.dyndns.org/auth.log11:03
johnnybezakhaha look out distro flame war :)11:03
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MrSmilenot true (but everybody has a different opinion)11:03
thoreauputicLadyLinux: note that the ubuntu package is linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:03
ompaulMrSmile, one thing - be aware of sudo before you start it I will now get the bot in the channel to message it to you11:03
ebfbob2: but people here are not used to linux, so thats why im asking if there is a way that people will just click the icon of yahoo messenger in destop to automatically access the program11:04
ompaul!tell MrSmile about root11:04
bob2MrSmile: do you know what a SONAME is?11:04
seliniumhexion: sudo apt-get install xsensors11:04
LadyLinuxbob2: Thanx.  Would the folder be /usr/src?11:04
f00li5h!mell f00li5h about root11:04
ubotuf00li5h: I haven't a clue11:04
bob2LadyLinux: no, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:04
finlaylabsanyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?11:04
hexionselinium: ok, thanks for your help :)11:04
f00li5hhrm11:04
zorba64!sudo11:04
ubotuhmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:04
seliniumhexion: np11:04
ompaul!tell f00li5h about root11:04
MrSmileI was at the Linux corner and met one of these ubuntu guys on the Cebit this year. I know that root, is not used anyway.11:04
MrSmileright?!11:05
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johnnybezakMrSmile: right11:05
ompaulMrSmile, you were messaged by ubotu the wiki page on root11:05
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bob2finlaylabs: of course not, reiser4 isn't even in the mainline kernel yet11:05
draug_nebf: you do that with gaim - click the icon and it connects - if you set it to autologon. fool around with the prefs abit11:05
ompaulf00li5h, you need tell not mell :)11:05
f00li5hompaul: yeah, i know11:05
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MrSmileI opened the wikipage11:05
LadyLinuxbob2: I have to edit compiler file to find the headers.  Would I add this /usr/src to the file?11:06
ompaulf00li5h,  :-)11:06
LinuxPidscan anyone help me how to install software in ubuntu11:06
f00li5hompaul: root is disabled?11:06
f00li5hthat seems silly11:06
ebfdraug_n: ok, if its the only to access the YIM then be it ^_^11:06
ompaulf00li5h, seems and is are two different things11:06
bob2LadyLinux: no, you point it at /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build for the headers11:06
onkarshindeMy roomie wants to work on VN.NET, But I don't want to install Windows. Is Mono the ultimate solution?11:06
finlaylabsbob2: oh I see. Hoary had reiserfs3, but no encryption option on install. Any chance of install-time encryption setup this time?11:06
thoreauputic!tell LinuxPids about synaptic11:06
bob2LinuxPids: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto11:06
LinuxPidsim new in linux11:06
ompaulf00li5h, in any commerical environment using root can get you sacked11:06
bob2onkarshinde: no11:06
MrSmileHow do you add extra modules and modify changes on the system if root is disabled?! For example, I want to add the dazuko module for a realtime virusscanner.11:06
onkarshindeLinuxPids: I can help you11:06
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MrSmileDoes it make my life harder?!11:07
bob2onkarshinde: what on earth is "VN.NET"?11:07
onkarshindebob2: Can you tell me why?11:07
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hexionbye11:07
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bob2MrSmile: you use sudo like competent admins use everywhere, anyway11:07
ompaulMrSmile,  sudo apt-get install <insert your poision here>11:07
onkarshindebob2: VB.NET, sorry for the typo.11:07
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bob2onkarshinde: because it doesn't implement all the windows-specific crap11:07
MrSmilebut if you have to build your kernel module from the source and to add it your kernel?!11:07
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MrSmileWhat then?!11:07
f00li5hompaul: at work everyone uses root on all the servers11:07
f00li5hompaul: it's quite lame actually11:07
bob2MrSmile: dude11:07
onkarshindebob2: And does that Windows specific part forms major part of it?11:08
bob2MrSmile: if you're as experienced as you say, you will have 0 problems using sudo11:08
MrSmileSo, for everything is a sollution.11:08
MrSmileokay.11:08
LadyLinuxbob2: Thanx so much, hon.11:08
bob2MrSmile: stop asking silly questions11:08
bob2LadyLinux: working?11:08
bob2onkarshinde: you're the one who knows VB, not me11:08
ompaulf00li5h, if I was your sec admin I would be handing out warnings11:08
MrSmile:(11:08
f00li5hi'm the sysadmins underling11:08
LinuxPidshow can install software in linux onkarshinde11:08
f00li5hso i do as i'm toldl11:08
ebfdraug_n: i just wanna ask if there is a yahoo messenger besides YIM in gaim?11:08
bob2onkarshinde: if you care about winforms, I think you're screwed.  if you're happy to use gtk# on windows, then you're fine.11:08
onkarshindebob2: I also don't know VB. Seems like I have to search for it.11:08
bob2LinuxPids: read the URL I pointed you at11:09
foxy123so anyone who knows about autofs?11:09
f00li5hompaul: the only time i use my username is to get email11:09
finlaylabsbob2: or any alternate encryption that wraps a mature file system?11:09
ompaulf00li5h, no tracking of who does what - check out the whole thing on the sudo homepage11:09
bob2onkarshinde: the mono site has information about the various languages11:09
LadyLinuxbob2: Not yet, need to download files, reboot then do it.  I'm in microcrap right now.11:09
aftertafonkarshinde:  there are different .NET implementations in nux..... most seem to try to get the aspx part working11:09
thoreauputicLinuxPids: you've been given two links to the synaptic howto11:09
bob2finlaylabs: I'm not sure; I know someone was working on it, I don't know if it made it in or not11:09
bob2finlaylabs: I think dmcrypt is the current "right way" to do encryption on top of regular filesystems, it doesn't seem too hard to setup afterwards11:09
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f00li5hompaul: yeah, there is that too...11:09
bob2I'm planning to use that for /home on my laptop when I find time11:10
ompaulf00li5h, that is not good practice, it holds the potential for serious damage with no accountablity - very very bad -11:10
f00li5hompaul: the thing is that we all have our own worstations11:10
ebfdraug_n: for ubuntu i mean11:10
onkarshindeLinuxPids: It depends on what you want to install. If it is available in repositories or not.11:10
f00li5hompaul: i know, it's a horrible practice11:10
draug_nebf: nope. but gaim can access AIM, MSN, irc etc - all in one client! so you can connect to multiple networks at the same time and have them in the same buddy list.11:10
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LadyLinuxbob2:  I have it duel boot until I get it working then switch over completely.11:10
ompaulf00li5h, lets leave it there11:10
onkarshindebob2: aftertaf: Any idea about DOTGNU?11:10
gillesanyone got a clue for this: opengl apps freeze after 5 mins (with nvidia's drivers) ?11:10
finlaylabsbob2: ok, I will look at it.11:10
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f00li5hompaul: heh, on the plus side, we have a server each, so it's a good bet that if my server explodes, it was my falult ^_^11:10
ebfdraug_n: ok thx11:10
bob2LadyLinux: ah11:10
aftertafonkarshinde:  best combing the websites........ i havent dev'ed in .NEt for over a year, and never on linux.11:10
MrSmileBreezy Bradger release of Ubuntu....11:10
bob2onkarshinde: seems to have a lot less work put into it11:11
LinuxPidsin the repositories i know that but i dont know how to do that in repository because im new in linux11:11
klexI can only choose between 640x480 and 800x600, how do I add 1024x768 a easy way?11:11
bob2gilles: talk to nvidia, #nvidia11:11
MrSmileIf I install Breezy, can I update later on stable release?!11:11
HrdwrBoB!tell klex about resolution11:11
bob2LinuxPids: did you read that page or not?11:11
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bob2MrSmile: of course11:11
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MrSmilethanks11:11
finlaylabsbob2: I also looked at encfs, but appears to have poor performance.11:11
thoreauputicLinuxPids: for heaven's sake - read the URLs11:11
aftertafompaul:  w00t :/11:11
aftertaf;)11:11
LinuxPidsok11:11
MrSmileUbuntu uses the debian packages?! Right?!11:11
f00li5hompaul: yes, the irony is that only the stupid people login as root ...11:11
thoreauputic!tell LinuxPids about synaptic11:11
klexHrdwrBoB, ?11:11
tomahawkhello there we are new Ubuntu users and we are currently configuring Ubuntu for an Internet Cafe11:12
f00li5h!tell f00li5h what you can tell people about11:12
klexHrdwrBoB, tnx11:12
bob2MrSmile: please stop with the "?!" thing11:12
SeveasMrSmile, ubuntu uses .deb files indeed11:12
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bob2MrSmile: yes, ubuntu is based on Debian11:12
MrSmilePeople. I want to thank you very much for your help. It was nice for me asking you questions.11:12
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seliniumhi tomahawk11:12
f00li5hthing? i'm not sure what you mean bob211:12
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johnnybezakMrSmile: haha np ?!11:12
f00li5hhelp11:12
brownie17i need help11:12
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ompaulf00li5h, PLEASE let it be11:13
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MrSmileOne other questions... I know HP is working with ubuntu on linux desktop projects. where can I read about that?!11:13
bob2brownie17: please just ask coherent questions11:13
az[a] zelwoohooo, i got migrated to ADSL2+ infrastructure :) :)11:13
f00li5hompaul: let it be? consider it done then .11:13
brownie17i accidently dragged my gnome menu ( the top one) over to the side of the screen, and it's massive and i can't drag it back!!! help me!!!11:13
LadyLinuxbrb.11:13
bob2az[a] zel: bastard!11:13
az[a] zelADSL sync speed = 7616kbps11:13
bob2brownie17: chill out11:13
draug_nMrSmile: if you find it more practical to have a root shell for a while, you can sudo su - (and then you won't need to give root a password)11:13
az[a] zelI only have an ADSL 1 modem11:13
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bob2brownie17: yes you can, just find a blank spot and drag it11:13
bob2az[a] zel: for a merge 8mbit/s, you must feel terrible!11:13
aftertafMrSmile:  i dont like HP right now.....11:13
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johnnybezakdraug_n: or just sudo -s11:13
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brownie17bob2, no blank spot, the icons have got massive11:13
bob2brownie17: then delete something11:14
aftertafaz[a] zel:  yeah me too... 5meg, i need a new modem for 20meg11:14
MrSmileThey have released with the ubuntu development team  ubuntu liux notebooks.11:14
ToniseeHello!11:14
seliniumaz[a] zel, you lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky.....................11:14
brownie17bob2,  ok11:14
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MrSmileI want to know, if you heard about it, and where I can read further.11:14
gillesbut it's only with ubuntu i got those problems11:14
aftertafMrSmile:  google is king ;)11:14
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johnnybezakMrSmile: i think i remember something about ubuntu and laptops just google it11:15
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brownie17bob2, got it11:15
brownie17bob2, thanx11:15
andreasvcdoes anyone know how to get fonts back in Firefox after an upgrade to breezy?11:15
bob2MrSmile: yes, everyone knows, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=59511:15
onkarshindeMrSmile: I don't know where can you read further but I know where to download that release and I have used it. It is good.11:15
Toniseeis here anyone who is using magnetic card reader with ubuntu?11:15
selinium#j ubuntu-offtopic11:15
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bob2it's basically identical to regular Ubuntu11:15
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LinuxNewbieX6Xdoes this command have an error: sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C11:15
onkarshindeandreasvc: Are you talking about package msttcorefonts?11:15
LinuxNewbieX6Xpls help11:15
SeveasLinuxNewbie, yes it has11:15
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: depends what you're trying to do11:15
dazvidIs it possible to setup a p2p with a windows machine and an ubuntu ?11:16
Seveasthe -C is incorrect11:16
andreasvcwell my firefox displays not a single letter, Mozilla is fine.. it doesn't even have menus!11:16
Seveas-C needs an argument11:16
bob2dazvid: "a p2p"?11:16
seliniumHi Seveas, :)11:16
dazvidpeer 2 peer11:16
aftertafdazvid:  samba11:16
LinuxNewbieX6Xcould you pls correct it11:16
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MrSmileGood bye11:16
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dazvidas in, no router, just a crossover cable11:16
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SeveasLinuxNewbie, you can leave out the -C11:16
draug_nlinixnewbie: try tar -xzvf <whatever>11:16
dazvidSamba, righto11:16
onkarshindeandreasvc: Do you mean to say it won't display any site?11:16
bob2dazvid: yes11:16
topylidazvid: that's what i have11:16
draug_nand man tar11:17
aftertafdazvid:  get them both on same ip subnet, then use samba11:17
dazvidRighto11:17
andreasvconkarshinde, yes, neither menus11:17
Seveasbreezy has an easy-samba-seyup thingie11:17
Seveasit rocks :)11:17
LinuxNewbieX6Xim trying to install my printer my the steps here suggest that i do it11:17
dazvidSeveas: I cant wait for it11:17
dazvid:)11:17
ebfdraug_n: how can i install window based games in ubuntu? if cedege and wine is not reliable11:17
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Seveasdazvid, then dist-upgrade to it, it's awesome :D11:17
SeveasLadyLinux, only if you drink tea :p11:17
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i leave the -C its having some error11:17
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dazvidBut isnt it a bit unstable?11:17
johnnybezakebf: you can't cedega is the only way11:18
LadyLinuxKewlies, lol11:18
SeveasLadyLinux, what do you mean with 'cookies' TCP cookies, Xauth cookies, browser cookies, chocolate chip cookies?11:18
onkarshindeFirefox 1.5 is set to release at October end. Can we expect a backported release for breezy then?11:18
topyliSeveas: it does? what sort of samba setup-thing?11:18
Seveasonkarshinde, possibly...11:18
bob2onkarshinde: no doubt they'll do a broken backport of it11:18
bob2</bitter>11:18
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Seveasbob2, :D11:18
shinui just got myself apach2 and php4, what else do i need for php to work under apache2?11:18
Seveaslibapache2-mod-php411:18
shinuok11:19
shinuthanks11:19
ebfbut its not free. is there any program that is free?11:19
bob2ebf: no11:19
bob2ebf: wine may work with some11:19
LadyLinuxSeveas Cookies, spyware, etc.11:19
SeveasLadyLinux, cookies are a part of the web, they have very useful and legitimate uses11:19
johnnybezakebf: just pay one month, then cancel your subscription11:19
ebfso wine is free?11:19
ebfok11:19
johnnybezakebf: then it costs like 5 bucks11:19
Seveasspyware/viruses etc is not so much a problem :)11:20
aftertaf!breezy11:20
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topylicookies are good for you11:20
Toniseei had problem with cardreader which connects between keyboard and computer (PS2 version then). If i plug my computer in, both keyboard and cardreader are working nicely - i can type while Ubuntu boots (kernel is being loaded in etc) and also cardreader works. If i pull card thru reader, it displays card number etc. After changing runlevel to 5 (i guess that graphical mode is 5) - neither keyboard or cardreader work. Keyboard is "locked" - i cant typ11:20
johnnybezaktopyli: unless you eat too many11:20
draug_nebf: well, there is cvscedega, but you need to manually complie. and it is free (but wothout some features. copy-protection support f.ex)11:20
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Toniseeany ideas what to check?11:20
LadyLinuxSeveas Crap.  I hate them11:20
topylijohnnybezak: oh, lots of room in my cache for cookies!11:20
seliniumWhere can i get the iso of breezy?11:20
shinui just installed libapapche2-mod-php4 but it still tells me to download a phtml file instead of showing the page...11:20
ebfso i just have to search for it in the net? the cvscedega11:21
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shinui stopped apache2 and started it again but it didnt help11:21
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shinuwhy is that?11:21
andreasvcselinium: install hoary and atp-get upgarde from that11:21
draug_nebf: good howto on ubuntuforums org11:21
seliniumandreasvc, Sorry, i want the live cd11:21
onkarshinde!breezy11:21
Seveasselinium, releases.ubuntu.com has the preview release11:22
bob2Tonisee: no, all the runlevels (2-5) are identical by default, and they all start X11:22
Toniseeok, inittab is showing that default is 211:22
Toniseeso it must be so11:22
heatxsinkanyone in here on breezy?11:22
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seliniumSeveas, Cheers!11:23
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johnnybezakheatxsink: upgrading as we speak!11:23
johnnybezakhow do you guys like new gnome?11:23
Seveasheatxsink, I'm using it11:23
heatxsinkjohnnybezak:  I upgraded11:23
topyliheatxsink: NO! you must be mad! ;-)11:23
heatxsinkbut my Xserver is whacked out11:23
LadyLinuxWow, hot spicy noodle disk.11:23
Seveasthe new gnome r0x0rs your b0x0rz :)11:23
Toniseei have strange feeling that maybe this keyboard.sh (or something similar) in /etc/init.d is the root of evil in my case11:23
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aftertafloool Seveas11:23
heatxsinkI don't have certain fonts or somethin11:23
Toniseebtw.. cardreader worked well with Fedora 111:23
Seveasheatxsink, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:23
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Toniseeand with Fedora 4 too11:24
Seveasmine did too because I massively tweaked xorg.conf11:24
slyEw @ fedora =\11:24
johnnybezakSeaveas: haha how come11:24
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seliniumSeveas, does running the live cd do anything to the installed software?11:24
andreasvcselinium, no11:24
Seveasjohnnybezak, cairo, nautilus improved, lots of NEEDED and useful utilities etc...11:24
shinuanyone an idea why instead of showing my page the server tells me to dl a phtml file?11:25
johnnybezakSeveas: can you see any difference with cairo11:25
Seveasshinu, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart11:25
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Seveasjohnnybezak, the svg stuff is so great for the visually impaired....11:25
LinuxPidshow to convert .rpm files to .deb11:25
shinuSeveas: didnt seem to help :/11:25
LinuxPidscan anyone help me11:25
SeveasLinuxPids, just get a deb for your software :)11:25
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Seveasshinu, did you install both apache and apache2 perhaps?11:26
LinuxPidsthanks11:26
shinuuh11:26
bob2LinuxPids: it's easier if you tell us what you're trying to do11:26
jack-does anyone know when breezy will be "final"?11:26
mjrLinuxPids, alien can be used for that, but should be avoided if a deb is available11:26
shinui think i uninstalled apache already11:26
bob2LinuxPids: for instance, telling us what you want to install11:26
johnnybezakSeveas: are you visually impaired11:26
seliniumjack-, OCt 13th11:26
jack-i'd like to upgrade, but preview sounds scary..11:26
johnnybezakjack: its in october11:26
jack-ok11:26
shinuSeveas: think i uninstalled apache already11:26
Seveasjohnnybezak, I'm not11:26
shinuSeveas: rc  apache         1.3.33-4       versatile, high-performance HTTP server11:27
Seveasbut the cairo stuff is neat for the non-visually impaired people to :)11:27
nalioth_zZzjack-: official release date oct 1311:27
Slyive been linux only now for just over a year, Yay to me * Clap* *Clap*11:27
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Seveasshinu, uninstall apache and install apache211:27
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jack-thx11:27
johnnybezakSeveas: ok cool. i saw that the clear looks guy is porting to cairo. i wonder when we will get to see some of the sweet eye candy filter down11:27
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LadyLinuxWow, hot spicy noodle dish, nose is clear.11:27
johnnybezakSly: haha well done11:27
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Seveasjohnnybezak, around april :)11:28
Sly:)11:28
nalioth_zZzLadyLinux: hopefully not too hot/spicy, otw tears cloud the vision11:28
LinuxNewbieX6Xgot the printer now the diskette problem11:28
Seveaswhen cairo is improved too (faster and it can use the videocard properly)11:28
seliniumSeveas: Saw an article on Cairo in a mag, looks impressive.11:28
johnnybezakSeveas: haha why april11:28
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Seveasjohnnybezak, the next ubuntu release will be in april11:29
shinuSeveas: i just reinstalled apache2 and apache isnt installed anyways but doesnt seem to work...11:29
johnnybezakSeveas: you think there will be some stuff in it by then?11:29
Seveasselinium, cairo r0x0rs your b0x0rz :)11:29
LadyLinuxDoes pkg download with ubuntu allow restart where left off?11:29
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i pop the disk into the disk drive and go to my computer and double click the floppy it returned a error: unable to mount selected volume11:29
LinuxNewbieX6Xcan you help11:29
johnnybezakSeveas: whats the release after breezy called?11:29
SeveasLadyLinux, yes11:29
heatxsinkdamn thanks guys11:29
Seveasjohnnybezak, not yet known11:29
heatxsinkI at least got X working11:29
LinuxNewbieX6Xpls help11:29
dazvidSeveas: so updating eh... will it ruin my programs I have atm ?11:29
Slyi think................ should be a Frog, as i like frogs,. Frantic Frog11:30
Slymaybe ;)11:30
Seveasshinu, sudo a2enmod php4 && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart11:30
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LadyLinuxSeveas: kewl, if I get disconnect from netzero.11:30
seliniumSeveas: I am looking to actually do some application programming. I want to get a bit more involved. Where do I start?11:30
LinuxNewbieX6Xpls help11:30
Seveasdazvid, not if they aren't third-party programs11:30
heatxsinkin apt I don't know how to upgrade two packages that were kept back11:30
dazvidrighto11:30
heatxsinkapt-get -f install doesn't work11:30
Seveasselinium, can you program already?11:30
heatxsinkneither does apt-get dist-upgrade11:31
Seveasheatxsink, which packages?11:31
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i pop the disk into the disk drive and go to my computer and double click the floppy it returned a error: unable to mount selected volume11:31
LinuxNewbieX6Xpls help11:31
heatxsinkgnome-app-install and libgnome-cil11:31
LadyLinuxThis is gonna be a 36 hour day.11:31
LinuxNewbieX6Xurgent need the disk11:31
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: dude, chill out11:31
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: "pls help" is annoying, not encouraging11:31
seliniumSeveas: Yes, but mainly PHP, but the priciples are interchangable. I am going to do some python.11:31
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: does mounting it manually work?11:31
Seveasheatxsink, dpkg --configure --pending11:31
shinuSeveas: it said the module is already enabled but i cant get to my page :/11:31
Seveasand then install the ubuntu-desktop package11:31
LinuxNewbieX6Xthe command sudo mount /media/floppy?11:32
seliniumSeveas: I used to program pascal and cobol (showing my age) :)11:32
Seveas:D11:32
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heatxsinkSeveas:  still didn't work11:32
seliniumSeveas: And Basic! :)11:32
Seveasselinium, if you want to get involved with ubuntu, the best thing to do is not programming but packaging11:32
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seliniumSeveas: tell me more.11:33
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: yes, exactly11:33
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LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i use that command it said i must specify the file system11:33
Seveasselinium, if you want to do packaging (which includes shellscript programming, writing makefiles and making ubuntu rock), contact the MOTU :)11:33
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LadyLinuxLinuxNewbieX6X: chill, your computer is haveing a brain fart err chip fart.11:33
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhat should i add11:33
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy11:33
bob2selinium: even better than packaging is fixing existing packages11:33
seliniumSev11:33
bob2selinium: there's huge numbers of bugs in universe11:33
SlyLinuxNewb , it may not actualy mount it , if you havnt a floppy actualy in the device11:33
Slyis what i came across on ubuntu on the laptop11:33
Slywouldnt mount the floppy drive, unless anything was in it11:34
seliniumSeveas, Sorry for being dumb but MOTU?11:34
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Adrossin hoary, if you have gaim on one workspace, and are working on another, clicking on the gaim icon or on a guification will take you to gaim's workspace. In breezy, clicking on the gaim icon or a guification brings the app to your workspace. Is there anyway to change this?11:34
heatxsinkgod i love the bootup screen11:34
seliniumbob2: All sounds good!11:34
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Bryn_Scan anyone help me with locales? I've installed the cy_GB locale, ran dpkg-reconfigure locales to generate the locale and it's saying it doesn't exist11:34
LinuxNewbieX6Xit gave me sets of command11:34
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LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i use this sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy11:34
bob2Adross: file a bug!11:34
Adrossbob2: i don't think its a bug though, just a setting11:35
bob2LinuxNewbieX6X: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy11:35
topyliselinium: Masters Of The Universe! i.e. those who maintain universe packages11:35
seliniumtopyli, Cheers! and Hi again!11:35
Seveasselinium, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and #ubuntu-motu11:35
ebfbob2: why is it that i cant see my home network?11:35
seliniumCheers guys11:35
LinuxNewbieX6Xthnx alot men11:36
LinuxNewbieX6Xwhen i reboot the disk will remain11:36
Kalidarnim guessing the files for a tftpd PXE installation of Ubuntu havn't changed in 5.10 when compared to 5.0411:36
LinuxNewbieX6Xas it is?11:36
bob2ebf: how on earth could I aswer that?11:36
Kalidarnas i can't new ones.11:36
bob2ebf: did you set it up?11:36
bob2ebf: what do you mean by "see"?11:36
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topyliselinium: i'm thinking i'll maintain sl for ubuntu and pring "Master of the Universe" on my business cards11:36
topyliprinting even11:37
Seveas:D11:37
topylimuch cooler than "master of arts"11:37
seliniumtopyli, lol11:37
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ebfbob2: yup thats why i have an internet connection. i mean "see" is i cannot view other pc on the network, eventhough i can ping them11:37
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cevizogluI'm trying to configure my netgear WG511 card.  I've installed prism54 mod with modprobe, lsmod shows the prism54 mod there, but the card doesn't show up the network prefs.  What should I do?11:37
heatxsinkmy icons are all jacked up in Gnome any ideas?11:38
LadyLinuxHow do you get a 30 mb file faster on 56K?11:38
cevizogluI'm on hoary w/ a powerbook11:38
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SlyLadyLinux .. Pray11:38
LadyLinuxlol.11:38
Sly:)11:38
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Slytake a nap for 40mins, or however long it is11:38
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Slyi imagine it to be around that area?11:39
markumanhi,11:39
seliniumIf breezy runs fine from the Live cd can I install it and still be able to chose hoary in grub?11:39
bob2ebf: so you can see them fine11:39
markumanwhat is the dcopc server? what did it do?11:39
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LadyLinuxbob2:  After I get ubuntu online, then the real installing happens - KDE - Beast - rosegarden4 - Brahms.  At least it will be easier.11:39
bob2markuman: it's a kde thing for letting applications to talk to them11:40
bob2LadyLinux: hah, yeah11:40
bob2LadyLinux: what have you been setting up?11:40
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ebfbob2: yah i can ping them but i cant access them? i mean i would like to access the other pc from here11:40
LadyLinuxbob2:  I'm part of a band and need good recording/composing/mixing software.11:41
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wahlaure11:41
markumanbob2, with hoary lineakd works fine without any trouble. and now with breezy cames an error: DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket11:41
ebfbob2: just like in network places of windows xp11:41
wahlauanyone here knows about scim?11:41
wahlaui think for hoary something is broken, due to the latest change in scim packages11:41
bob2ebf: you need to define "access"11:41
bob2ebf: you mean via SMB or something?11:41
bob2LadyLinux: ahhh11:41
Bryn_Scan anyone help with my locales problem?11:41
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aftertafselenium... install using chroot & debootstrap ;)11:41
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bob2markuman: kubuntu bug, report it11:42
ebfbob2: via lan11:42
familyhey. i want to remove everything but ubuntu-base - how can i do that?11:42
admin_can anyone help me how install a .exe in ubuntu linux11:42
bob2ebf: you need to be a lote more specific11:42
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bob2admin_: you can't11:42
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bob2admin_: unless you mean "run it under wine"11:42
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bob2family: why?11:42
familybecause i want to11:42
Slylol11:42
bob2ebf: what do you want to do with them?11:43
bob2family: but *why*?11:43
LadyLinuxbob2:  Our band is called Defile and it's a cross between Death Metal and alternative.  My sis and I are the only women doing this type of music.11:43
bob2family: if you have some other problem, this will not fix it11:43
familybecause that's what i would like to do11:43
assistantshi11:43
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familyi don't want to reinstall, but i want nothing but ubuntu-base11:43
shinuis it normal that even when i stopped apache2, when i connect to my server on port 80, it still tells me to download some phtml file?11:43
bob2family: that's not going to fix anything11:43
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bob2shinu: something else is running then11:43
bob2shinu: 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80' will show you what11:44
Toniseeok, good day11:44
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familybob2: do you know how to do it or not?11:44
bob2LadyLinux: heh, sounds cool11:44
bob2family: yes, but I'm very curious about why you want to smash your system like that11:44
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bob2and it's dangerous enough that I won't tell you unless you explain what on earth you're doing11:44
familyi just said why11:44
bob2no, you didn't11:44
bob2you said "I want to"11:44
familyi don't want to reinstall, but i want nothing but ubuntu-base11:44
shinubob2: the only port it grepped is 6880...11:44
shinubob2: so supposedly nothing is running?11:44
bob2shinu: and accessing http://localhost:80/ tries to save something?11:45
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shinubob2: yeah it says refused11:45
bob2shinu: that's fine then11:45
familythat is what is installed when you choose the server installation11:45
ebfbob2: there are 10 pc here connected with other, i can ping them through the network tools, i want to know where or how would i see other pc in my network?11:46
bob2ebf: you haven't explained "see"11:46
LadyLinuxbob2:  We have a cd ready to record and getting ready to gig,  We had problems getting a drummer until we found guitar amp with excellent drum machine.11:46
shinubob2: so why is the other phtml file appearing?11:46
bob2ebf: do you mean "show them in the places menu"?11:46
ebfsee = access the other pc11:46
bob2shinu: now you've lost me11:46
ebfyup11:46
Slyebf , you meanm view shwred folders ?11:46
bob2ebf: access it *how*?  ssh? a web browser?11:46
ompaulfamily, it would be faster to install server than play with it for a week trying to find the bits you don't need - 20 minutes no thinking seems like a better idea to me11:46
bob2LadyLinux: haha, neat11:47
familyit wouldn't11:47
shinubob2: i meant that why does it tell me to download the phtml file if i access the server via lan ip11:47
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Slynew keyboard hard keys = lots of typo's11:47
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familyapparently no one knows11:47
bob2er11:47
bob2ok11:47
bob2or you could be quiet while I type the answer out11:47
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aftertaflool bob2 :)11:48
bob2family: aptitude, go to "Installed packages" and hit M11:48
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bob2family: then go down to ubuntu-base and hit + on it11:48
[ubu-e] krakhello11:49
admin_how to use the wine command11:49
pefhi11:49
ebfSly: i mean how to view folders in other pcs of my network through linux which i am using right now?11:49
bob2admin_: what are you trying to run?11:49
Slyso view the shared folder son your networked box's11:49
Slyand they dont shwo under Places >>. network servers ?11:49
admin_its download manager11:49
admin_its filename is idman406.exe11:49
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LadyLinuxbob2: hope to chat with you from linux in a couple of hours.  After the files donload.11:50
bob2admin_: don't bother, there are lots of download managers in ubutnu aalready11:50
ebfSly: where would i find the network box?11:50
bob2LadyLinux: good luck!11:50
Slytry looking under. Places >> Network Servers11:50
seliniumadmin_, just type wine c:/root/to/exe11:50
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wahlauguys11:50
wahlaucan i just submit a bug report?11:50
bob2wahlau: sure11:51
thenukenot on the channel :)11:51
bob2wahlau: unfortunately you have to sign up first11:51
LadyLinuxbtw, What's the best way to keep an ISP from hanging up on ya?11:51
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familyexcellent, thank you11:51
topylipay the bill11:51
bob2LadyLinux: they time you out after some period of inactivity?11:51
ian_LadyLinux: ping google.com11:51
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admin_just want to know how to install a .exe file in linux11:52
ompaulLadyLinux, sudo ping -i 113 www.google.ie11:52
[ubu-e] krakWhat i should add to Repostories to download packages directry from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ??11:52
wahlaubut i just want to make sure i don't make a wrong bug report11:52
bob2admin_: you can't, in general11:53
admin_ok11:53
ian_admin_: you want to install windows software in linux?11:53
bob2admin_: wine may work, but it seems silly for something so simple as a download manager11:53
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bob2[ubu-e] krak: that's not how apt works11:53
topyliadmin_: we do have native download managers you know11:53
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ompaulLadyLinux, sorry just use  ping -i 113 www.google.ie11:53
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ndisycan i install ATI drivers from synaptic?11:54
wahlaui will jsut ask around first11:54
ndisyIf so, what package?11:54
[ubu-e] krakATI just download package from ati.com wich is 56mb11:54
[ubu-e] krakbut first u need to compile kernel11:54
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[ubu-e] krakand for me it works11:54
shinuok11:55
seliniumIf breezy runs fine from the Live cd can I install Breezy and it still be able to choose hoary in grub?11:55
ndisyso there is no easy way to go about it?11:55
shinuthanks a lot11:55
shinugtg :)11:55
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bob2ndisy: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:55
[ubu-e] krakfor ati u can try this11:55
[ubu-e] krakhttp://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html11:55
ndisythankyou bob211:55
bob2selinium: you have a spare partition for that?11:55
bob2ndisy: that's way simpler than what [ubu-e] krak is proposing, btw11:55
LadyLinuxI just pinged my ISP11:55
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concept10I see 61 updates in the update manager, what is going on?!11:55
ndisythanx...ill try it out11:56
CaiN_SAbob2, how do i change the image that usplash uses ?11:56
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bob2CaiN_SA: change the initramfs, I guess11:56
BioblinseIs here anyone how talk german please ? i have a little prob , with ubunto and my notebook11:56
bob2CaiN_SA: ls /etc/*initram* would be a start11:56
bob2Bioblinse: #ubuntu-de11:56
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seliniumbob2: Oh do it like that, :) I didn't know if it held the previous kernel in there still, if you see what i mean.11:57
Bioblinsethanx *g*11:57
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Alyonehttp://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!11:57
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Alyonehttp://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!11:57
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bob2selinium: the kernels will be fine, yeah; but two installed systems requieres* two partitions11:57
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bob2* = not really true, but chroot's will be fiddly11:57
kaelisrahms.11:57
kaelisraaftertaf, i could do with some sound help, again >.11:58
kaelisra*>.<11:58
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aftertafkaelisra:  hehe, how did i become an expert?? :D11:59
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guimhi all, I am using hoary and received ISO word documents (*.doc) how do I have to open them correctly? as Hoary/openoffice seems to open them as if they were UTF8 docs? i don't know wher I am supposed to change something11:59
kaelisrasince i need some of the same stuff, again11:59
kaelisrathis time, i've got breezy.11:59
kaelisraand the driver works ;)12:00
kaelisrai've.. just got not sound, still.12:00
aftertafceck for the soundcore module, and ckeck that the mixer isnt muted...12:00
kaelisraok. how do i do that, again? >.<12:01
kaelisraerm. wait. not muted, done that one already.12:01
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LadyLinuxbob2: I can't wait to get some sleep.12:02
guimany help would be appreciated12:02
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bob2LadyLinux: heh; you can't let the download run over night?12:03
LadyLinuxbob2: How good is Satalite internet?12:03
bob2LadyLinux: higher bandwidth than dialup, but it can be pretty expensive12:03
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kaelisra^^;;12:04
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clavicepsgreetings12:04
ndisyjust a quick question, how can i find out what kernel version i have?12:04
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clavicepsdoes ubuntu ship with X.org? and is "startx" still the command to start it?12:04
godzerosatellite is for last resrt, really. even dsl has better price/performance if you can get it (I assume you live in a out-of-the-way place)12:04
bob2ndisy: uname -r12:04
LadyLinuxbob2:  $200 start and $99 a month or $500 1 time purchase and $49 a month.12:04
bob2claviceps: yes, yes12:04
bob2claviceps: tho gdm starts it by default on boot12:05
bob2LadyLinux: eep12:05
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MutantI configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working12:05
MutantI configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working12:05
ndisythanc12:05
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kaelisraaftertaf, umm... I've kinda forgotten how to do that...12:05
Mutantcan somoene help me on how to setup a PDF Printer ( to print to a pdf file...)?12:05
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nalioth_zZzLadyLinux: look at www.wildblue.com12:05
clavicepsbob2: well, i'm troubleshooting my cousin over the net and when he boots, X doesn' tstart automaticly and startx is not found12:05
LadyLinuxbob2:  It's the only high speed I can get.12:05
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nigeanyone know how to get x+ati drivers+dual monitors working?12:05
bob2claviceps: whoever installed it screwed up12:06
bob2claviceps: or a user got root and removed a bunch of stuff12:06
bob2nige: xinerama, the wiki has documentation for it, as does google12:06
bob2LadyLinux: ah...pretty pricey :|12:06
ebf anybody: i want to view my network pcs here in linux, but how?12:06
nigewellI tried the xinerama it didnt work for me :(12:06
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nigeI just get a cloned image on my screen12:07
nigewhich does me no good12:07
bob2nige: "didn't work" isn't enough information for someoen to help you debug it12:07
bob2that's not xinerama12:07
bob2that's cloning12:07
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nigewell12:07
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nigei keep ending up with the gdm being disabled..12:07
KilterI want to put a wiki up on my ubuntu box, is there a good package with reasonable information to use?12:07
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bob2Kilter: moin is pretty good and has a reasonable security record12:08
admin_how can i install wine in ubuntu12:08
bob2and doesn't take too much screweing around12:08
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Kiltermoin?  ok, I'll look it up.  searching for wiki howto ubuntu wasn't working in google;)12:08
bob2!+repositories12:08
ubotuI guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:08
bob2admin_: ^^12:08
bob2admin_: read that, then use synaptic12:08
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FI installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either, I'm using the Breezy preview12:11
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bob2btdownload<tab> in a shell12:11
Fam I the only one having this problem12:11
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adaranmorning everyone12:11
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adaranwhere do i take my question about ubuntu release cycles and such?12:11
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dazvidWhats the question adaran12:12
dazvid:)12:12
bob2here...12:12
adaranwell, i'm in the market for a new distro, i've been using debian for 2 years, but i've finally decided that it's not a good desktop distro, mainly because i like current software12:12
deFryskadaran, then ubuntu is a good choice12:13
dazvidUbuntu has a release cycle of 6 months12:13
adaranmy main gripe is that i constantly have to install stuff from testing or unstable to have current software (kde 3.4, for example) which breaks old stuff with conflicting libs12:13
Wilfubotu?12:13
adaranwell, i was shooting for kubuntu, as i understand it, it's ubuntu with a few extra packages?12:13
Wilf!ubotu12:13
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild12:13
nigeokay, so i scroll through to where i can see the error messages, adn on there it says:  "The X server is now disabled Restart GDM when it is configured correctly"12:13
adaranwhat about security updates?12:13
deFryskadaran, ubuntu has releases every april and october12:13
adaranoh12:14
adaranshould i  wait another month then? =)12:14
nigeall i can do is say okay, but my keyboard now has become a garbled mess..... i am using breezy!12:14
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deFryskand security apdates are maintained properly asif you were in debian itself12:14
Wilfubotu, moose12:14
ubotuit has been said that moose is a long haired beastie with antlers .12:14
bob2no12:14
Kilterthe moinmoin-common package that comes down with apt doesn't seem to have the same information as the setup on the moinmoin help page.  is there a howto for this somewhere that anyone knows of?12:14
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bob2security for ubuntu only happens for things in the "main" section12:14
ompauladaran, there is no time like the present :)12:14
LadyLinuxnalioth_zZz: Not bad.  I hope this place allows it.12:14
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bob2Kilter: you'll want the moin package12:14
adarandeFrysk, i don't think theres that good security in debian, mainly because if you want current packages, they are from non-stable and get not security updates =(12:15
bob2sid gets very timely security updates12:15
bob2generally12:15
bob2if you want up to date stuff, ubuntu is not for you, either12:15
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adarani see. well, i'll give it a shot. i'm a bit reluctant because that means at least 2 days of configuring, but maybe it's time well spent12:15
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bob2since that means running ubuntu's development branch, which is often more broken than sid12:15
Kilterbob2: the moin package was depreciated.12:16
deFryskadaran, you sound more like a person who wants mandake-cooker12:16
adaranbob2, let's take kde 3.4 for example12:16
deFryskmandriva even12:16
bob2adaran: which is in sid, no?12:16
bob2no, no one wants mandrake cooker, they want sid12:16
deFryskbob2, jk ;p12:16
adaranbob2, yes. problem is, i also want to use kbiff, which i can't install because there's no version in sid iirc, and it depends on an old kde lib that conflicts with the new one from sid12:17
LadyLinuxbob2:  I'm also going to buy Debian Sarge in a couple weeks.12:17
Wilflove12:17
Wilfubotu, love12:17
ubotu<unvs> this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies12:17
HrdwrBoBLadyLinux: buy?12:17
bob2adaran: right, known bug12:17
adaranbob2, well, the other alternative would be a commercial distro12:17
bob2adaran: you can trivially fix it yourself, or wait12:17
bob2adaran: fixing = apt-get source -b kbdiff ; sudo dpkg -i kbiff*.deb12:18
ompaulWilf, stop playing with the bot /msg ubotu for your fun and games please12:18
adaranso i should use source packages? =/12:18
LadyLinuxHrdwrBoB: Unless you want to burn me a set and mail them.12:18
bob2adaran: no, if you're going to use sid, you just deal with trivial bugs like that12:18
bob2adaran: or you even find someone to upload it to sid for you, so it's fixed for everyone12:18
HrdwrBoBLadyLinux: I don't have any debian isos handy since I switched to ubuntu12:19
adaranbob2, or upload to sid myself, eh? =)12:19
bob2adaran: exactly!12:19
bob2sid isn't an OS, it's a way of life12:19
adaranbob2, that's a very debianish attitude =)12:19
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Wilfubotu, ompaul12:19
ubotuWilf: I don't know, could you explain it?12:19
bob2heh12:19
Wilf:(12:19
bob2I'm surprised I'm in such a good debian mood right now12:19
LadyLinuxHrdwrBoB: I wish I could get all the packages I need for music software.12:19
adaran*sigh* all i wanted was something that is a.) current (as in kde 3.4, not kde 3.4.2) and b.) works12:20
prolsdhmm.12:20
adaranbob2, know any good commercial distros? if they're rpm based, but supply something like aptitude, i could warm up for that12:20
LadyLinuxHrdwrBoB: I'm only dialup12:20
Seveasf00li5h, please stop adding crap to the bot12:20
Seveas!forget moose12:20
ubotui forgot moose, Seveas12:20
Seveas!forget beastie12:21
ubotuSeveas: i forgot beastie12:21
LadyLinuxHrdwrBoB: I have no burner.12:21
Seveas!forget syntax12:21
ubotui forgot syntax, Seveas12:21
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adaranthe worst thing is, i can't remember why i had to have kde 3.4....12:21
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deFryskadaran, I have even forgotten why i ever liked kde12:22
adarandeFrysk, me too12:22
adarandeFrysk, then i tried gnome and remembered =)12:22
deFryskadaran, you are talking to someone whe prefers gnome12:23
johnnybezakhaha don't knock the gnome12:23
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deFrysk;p12:23
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adarandeFrysk, however, i've been becoming increasingly frustrated with software in general12:23
deFryskadaran, me increasingly less actually12:23
johnnybezakadaran: go back to the abacus then :P12:23
adaransomething like that12:23
adaranall i have left is buying a mac12:23
adarantrying zeta os or what it's called12:24
LadyLinuxne1 from south central US?12:24
adaranbut that's end of the line =)12:24
Seveas!forget !forget12:24
ubotuSeveas: i forgot !forget12:24
SeveasI hate idiots that add crap to the bot...12:24
F_for_FraggingI installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either. I'm using the Breezy preview, anyone else having this problem?12:24
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concept10LadyLinux: South Central?12:25
deFryskF_for_Fragging, yust use gnome-bitorrent ;)12:25
seliniumF_for_Fragging, Have you tried just clicking on a torrent?12:25
deFryskF_for_Fragging, its in the menu under internet12:25
LadyLinuxIs there any Linux groups in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico area.12:25
LadyLinuxconcept10: I think that answers it.12:26
concept10LadyLinux: North Texas LUG12:26
johnnybezakis there a wireless applett in breezy12:26
Seveasyes12:26
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LadyLinuxconcept10: You that close?12:26
concept10LadyLinux: I dont know about the other states, I live in texas12:26
F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, I know that gnome-bittorrent is installed by default, but it lacks features, it doesn't let me cap the download and it doesn't let me select the port which bittorrent should use12:26
LadyLinuxconcept10: You live near Dallas?12:27
deFryskF_for_Fragging, ok12:27
concept10LadyLinux: Yep12:27
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LadyLinuxconcept10: May I msg you, Please.12:27
bob2adaran: nah, I hate the idea of not being able to fix my distro :)12:27
concept10LadyLinux: Yep.12:28
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deFryskF_for_Fragging, if you hit bt <tab> <tab> you have all the bt executables to look at12:28
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shinuwhy cant my cutenews write to the news.txt file?12:29
shinudo i have to set some permissions?12:29
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F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, thank you. Just tried that, but the right executable doesn't seem to be installed12:31
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reterhello.12:31
deFryskF_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments>12:31
deFryskF_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments> <url>12:31
kai_At ubuntuguide.org i read that you can make computer_icon_visible to show the icon at the desktop. But how do i get it "checked", the only thing i can do are add a key....?12:32
reteri switched to breezy and now i have 700 files that needs to be upgraded but everytime i try to upgrade and when it gets to the end all these error messages appear and it ends up not upgrading the files..what do i do?12:32
Wilfubotu, quit?12:32
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Wilf>:(12:32
adaranbob2, i tried the kbiff thing too12:32
F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, thank you. But there is no graphical frontend to bittorrent which I can start? It only works from the terminal?12:32
adaranbob2, 16 packages upgraded, 55 newly installed just to get the development files =)12:32
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CaiN_SAreter, sudo apt-get distupgrade :)12:33
deFryskF_for_Fragging, alt-f2 and hit your desired command12:33
kai_anyone know how to make the desktop icons show?12:33
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kaelisrahmm...12:33
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kaelisrai need some help with my sound >.<12:34
Madpilotkai_: right click on the desktop, select Create Launcher12:34
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reterCaiN_SA, invalid operation12:34
boxerboydefault ubuntu might have a trash icon and thats it you have to make rest12:34
CaiN_SAreter, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :)12:34
kai_Madpilot, and? i want the home and computer icon to show...12:35
kaelisrai can't seem to get it to work, atm, its not muted, i know that much, and i've got a working driver, appearantly.12:35
Madpilotkai_: this isn't Windows - look under the Places menu for that stuff12:35
clavicepshahahaha12:35
deFryskkai_, apt-get install gtweakui and set your desired settings12:35
F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, thanks for your help, but if both bittorrent-gui and gnome-bittorrent don't work for me, I think I'll go back to Azureus12:35
deFryskF_for_Fragging, if you have a fast pc , why not ?12:36
tech_hallow rooM12:36
retercain, what does that do? what is the difference between that and regular upgrade12:36
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johnnybezakbam breezy packages finished downloading, now its install reboot and pray12:37
tech_Dear all am the new Obuntu user12:37
boxerboythere was an easier way instead of downloading it12:37
deFrysk<--agnostic12:37
holycowjohnnybezak, you should be okaay, i installed via iso12:37
tech_i decided to shift from windows to linux12:37
concept10johnnybezak: come back here and tell me how it went12:37
F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, my PC can handle Azureus, but I don't like it because it suffers from bloat and featuritis, unfortunately it's my only choice since Azureus has decent UPnP functionality12:37
holycowtech_, welcome12:38
johnnybezakconcept10: haha sure got nothing better to do12:38
dazvidI like Azureus :)12:38
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holycowtech_, how long have you been using linux?12:38
boxerboywelcome to the working os12:38
tech_thanks holycow12:38
deFryskF_for_Fragging, I agree for some part12:38
concept10F_for_Fragging: try disabling the distributed database12:38
reterwhy is breezy better than hoary?12:38
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tech_three month now12:38
johnnybezaki wish you could get a net install of ubuntu12:38
godzeroAzureus caused BIG memory leaks for me under Kubuntu HH (like 1GB!)12:38
johnnybezakthen i could get debian off my little server12:38
holycowreter, it's not, its still dev and lots of things to be fixed12:39
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boxerboyeverything is upgraded (most)12:39
LadyLinux9concept10: I was diconnected.12:39
bimberikai_, Applications -> System Tools -> Configuratoin Editor, apps -> nautilus -> desktop (computer_icon_visible, home_icon_visible)12:39
deFryskreter, because ubuntu aims to improve12:39
F_for_FraggingI'm behind a router so Azureus is my only choice, bittorrent-gnome is simply to limited and bittorrent-gui is flawed as well12:39
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tech_but am a beginner12:39
concept10LadyLinux: oh, okay. I wondered what happened to you12:39
F_for_FraggingLinux sucks so much for bittorrent users12:39
deFryskits not ubuntus policy to make things worse12:39
F_for_Fraggingbut thanks for your help deFrysk12:39
boxerboyi use gnome bittorrent12:39
boxerboyi have a router12:39
holycowF_for_Fragging, how so? you have auzereus available.  what is the issue?12:39
LadyLinux9concept10: I was in the middle of a dl and had to start over.12:40
F_for_Fraggingholycow, it's not in the breezy repo yet12:40
holycowF_for_Fragging, its a java ip12:40
holycowapp12:40
deFryskholycow, java apps suck like black holes12:40
holycowit has no reason to be in a repo12:40
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holycowjust download and run after you have installed 1.5 jre12:40
concept10LadyLinux: what distro do you need?12:40
holycowi don't see the issue?12:40
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, you mean that gnome-bittorrent has no problem with your router?12:40
boxerboynot 1 bit12:40
holycowdeFrysk, hehe i like java, i avoid it but the jre's are improving in performance12:41
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F_for_Fraggingyes, it's very unfortunate that azureus uses java...12:41
kaelisra^^;;;12:41
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holycowF_for_Fragging, mine doesn't at all12:41
LadyLinux9concept10: May I chat pvt again please?12:41
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holycowF_for_Fragging, it's not unfortunate at all, if it didn't you wouldn't be using it on linux or osx12:41
boxerboydo you have the firewall set in your router?12:41
holycowits actually a really decent implementation12:41
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, I'll give gnome-bt another try then, thanks12:41
holycowpeople just love to hate java for no particular reason12:41
boxerboyyw12:42
F_for_Fraggingno, no firewall12:42
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concept10LadyLinux: yes12:42
F_for_Fraggingbut i assume i should forward port 6881 for bt, right?12:42
deFryskF_for_Fragging, without open source torrents would have never existed dont forget that ;)12:42
boxerboyok heres something i didnt like on colony 3 my gnome bittorrent works great on colony 4 nothing works right12:42
F_for_Fraggingyes, but what I meant was that I'm a bit disappointed with the bittorrent apps for linux12:43
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holycowdeFrysk, exactly12:43
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ds[de] deFrysk: how so?12:43
johnnybezakmany of you guys use evolution>?12:43
deFryskhow so what ?12:43
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, but you do need to have port 6881 forwarded right?12:43
ds[de] how without o.s. torrents would have never existed12:43
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markrianEvolution uses the wrong locale (en-us, as opposed to what I want, en-gb) no matter what I do. All other programs obey locale settings, except Evolution. I've even tried creating a new user (i.e., completely fresh settings), but the problem remains12:44
deFryskds[de] , bittorrent is an open source project12:44
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boxerboyi didnt have to screw with the ports12:44
Slymarkian im uk too, mine works fine =\12:44
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, ok then I'll try, thx12:44
boxerboyyw12:44
ds[de] boxerboy: i see12:44
markrianSly, I know, there's something funny with my configuration somewhere12:44
markrianAnd I cannot for the life of me work out what12:45
Sly:(12:45
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boxerboyyou have all of ur repos right? or just the default ones?12:45
Slywell i best go iron all my stuff i want for college :( ,12:45
boxerboyif you set the multi unuverse ones there is an update for gnome torrent12:45
boxerboyuniverse12:46
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waxheadhi everyone12:47
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, I'm using the breezy preview, so I'l probably have the latest version12:47
boxerboyu still have to set the repos12:47
waxheadhow stable is breezy?12:48
z|banditoroot      5552  0.0  0.1   1552   216 ?        Ss   Sep08   0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg12:48
boxerboyim using breezy also12:48
z|banditoroot      5771  6.8 18.0  44444 22760 ?        S    Sep08 406:33 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt712:48
z|banditowhat are those?12:48
waxheadis it worth the risk to upgrade to now?12:48
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boxerboyrepositories12:48
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kai_When i try to play a audio cd, its plays with bad sound and fragmented, what can i do to correct this?12:48
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F_for_Fraggingwaxhead, I'm using the breezy preview release right now and I haven't had a single crash12:48
z|banditokai you can try different audio settings under the options and multimedia12:49
boxerboyif you go to ubuntu upgarder and click on settings and check all the boxes in there you will see lil boxes next to each repo check all12:49
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waxheadF_for_Fragging, it's not so much the crashing as hte package breakage12:49
kai_z|bandito, where??12:49
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rambo3do i need an extra server in sources.list to get afterstep ?12:49
deFryskF_for_Fragging, btw , azureus can be easily locally installed, no deb needed12:49
z|banditodo you guys see similar processes if you do ps aux | grep root ?12:49
kai_mp3/ogg plays perfect12:49
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z|banditooh, i dunno, don't have gnome in front of me, i think it's system -> multimedia and sound settings12:50
z|banditoor seomthing12:50
F_for_Fraggingboxerboy, I have version 0.0.1812:50
boxerboythan for muti universe you go to www.ubuntuguide.org and u have to add lines in the folder it shows you how to do it in the add extra repos section of the guide12:50
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cevizoglusudo poweroff12:50
z|banditobut when i have the problem, i can't play netradio or anything.. though gnome ui sounds are ok12:50
waxheadwhere's the package list for the different versions located?12:50
F_for_FraggingdeFrysk, I know, but I'd like to use the repositories12:50
deFryskF_for_Fragging, stay out of ubuntuguid btw12:50
kai_hm i have to make cd playback work!12:51
boxerboywhy it works great for me12:51
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deFryskboxerboy, good for you but its a bad/poor resource12:51
F_for_Fraggingcurrently downloading a torrent with gnome-btdownload, but it doesn't go higher than 3 KB/s >*12:51
deFrysk!ubuntuguide12:51
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.12:51
boxerboyoh ok see i didnt know that12:52
boxerboythank you12:52
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boxerboywhen is breezy set for release??12:53
deFryskoct 1312:53
boxerboythese are still betas no?12:53
holycowhave you guys ever noticed that sometimes you do a software update via gui and there are no updates, then you apt-get update and all of a sudden there are tons?12:53
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boxerboyok12:53
deFryskboxerboy, releses are always in april and oct.12:53
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boxerboyoh cool ok ty12:54
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ReoJanhello12:54
waxheadholycow, yeah, just noticed that myself12:54
boxerboybrb im gonna try that12:54
ebfto anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"12:54
waxheadI'm wondering if the update manager works right12:54
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holycowi'm thinking its time to post a bug12:54
deFryskupdate manager is set to check once a day12:54
ompaulwaxhead, why would you think it does not?12:55
deFrysknot 100 times a day12:55
holycowdeFrysk, when you start it up manually it doesn't download updates?12:55
holycowit sure looks like it does12:55
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waxheadompaul, because I've been using the update manage, nothing to update, I run synaptic, update the list, and then quit... check the updates and there are zillions...12:55
deFryskholycow, it does it once a day , on my box in the morning12:56
ebfto anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"12:56
waxheadompaul, but it could just be coincidence that this is the case.12:56
holycowdeFrysk, thats fine, but when you start it up manually, it says downloading updated info or similar12:56
boxerboymy apt-get updates dont work12:56
holycowit clearly isn't downloading anything12:56
boxerboywith and without sudo12:56
ompaulwaxhead, synaptic does a query when you start it - your timing on update manager may be a lot later today :)12:56
ReoJancan i install window games on my ubuntu OS?12:56
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Slyapt-get updates or spt-get update12:57
Sly?12:57
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deFryskholycow, if you would reboot now you'd see it wil not do that again12:57
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waxheadapt-get update12:57
StalwartReoJan, use wine or cedega12:57
boxerboyapt-get12:57
holycowdeFrysk, sure that still doesn't answer my question tho12:57
Sly-Collegei was talking to boxerboy asking if he was typing updates12:57
ompaulReoJan, in some cases yes in some cases not using the tools Stalwart names12:57
waxheadSly-College, then apt-get upgrade12:57
Sly-Collegeand ifso take the s off :)12:57
ReoJani use wine and cedega, but my games doesnt work12:57
boxerboyboxerboy@boxer:~$ apt-get updates12:57
boxerboyE: Invalid operation updates12:57
boxerboyboxerboy@boxer:~$ sudo apt-get updates12:57
boxerboyPassword:12:57
boxerboyE: Invalid operation updates12:57
boxerboyboxerboy@boxer:~$12:57
deFryskholycow, what question ?12:57
Sly-Collegeboxer boy12:57
boxerboythats the output12:57
Sly-Collegeits update not updates12:57
holycow*sigh*12:57
holycownm12:57
ebfsly: where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"12:57
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ompaulwaxhead, if you had apt-get update it would have kicked your update manager12:58
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ompaulboxerboy, when you want to flood do paste.ubuntulinux.nl not in the channel12:58
Sly-Collegethanx anyway wazhead :)12:58
Sly-Collegewax*12:58
boxerboyoh ok sorry12:59
ompaulboxerboy, and u must use sudo apt-get update12:59
boxerboyi did both12:59
ebfSly-College:  where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"12:59
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boxerboyi just did sudo apt-get upgrade and it showed 012:59
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Sly-Collegeboxerboy , so your saying sudo apt-get update odnt work either12:59
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ompaulboxerboy, you have an _S_ at the end of the word it is  updatE all lower case12:59
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Sly-Collegeebf , its not glzgears its some info about your graphics you want to grep to find direct rendering yes/no01:00
aftertafanyone help me with debootstrap...?01:00
Sly-Collegedunno what tho01:00
ebfyup01:00
aftertafi'm behind a http proxy, ive set proxy settings in wgetrc and in environment, but failing to get package...01:00
boxerboyack theres a crap load of them01:00
ompaulas one ozzie said this morning it is simple when you know how, but when you first try it, it seems so hard,01:00
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Sly-Collegeebf , cant remember for the life of me what :(01:00
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boxerboyit looks like there were 2101:01
ompaulboxerboy, and some days nothing01:02
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boxerboyis it the update manger has a bug?01:02
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reikiwhen I click on a .wmv file on a website, I am only given the choice to open it with Totem. I installed mplayer and it works, however mplayer doesn't show up in the list of apps offerred to open the file. How can I fix that?01:03
ompaulboxerboy, no - it was not its time to check - it checks once a day01:03
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boxerboyoh ok01:03
boxerboyit seems they update faster doing it that way anyway01:04
Tomcat_reiki: The combobox that has totem has an item where you can choose the application. Choose mplayer there.01:04
Sly-Collegehas anyone completed neverball ?01:04
Tomcat_reiki: From that point, mplayer will always be there, and you can make it the default somewhere in the preferences.01:04
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boxerboyhas anyone else noticed problems with gaim in breezy yet?01:05
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snorks|schoollal01:05
kai_i cant play or rip a audiocd (it sounds just bad), can it have something to do with dma settings?01:05
reikiTomcat_, I chose mplayer, checked the box that says, "Do this all the time" and next time I click a wmv file I have to chose all over again. MPlayer isn't in the list (combobox)01:05
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Sly-Collegeim out01:07
godzerokai_ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc01:07
kai_godzero, have done that01:07
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kai_hm i cant start toem either, but rhytmebox are working ok01:09
Somada142hi, does anyone know if there is a program similar to ACDSEE for ubuntu?01:09
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Somada142in order to browse trough pictures in a folder?01:10
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deFryskSomada142, gthumb01:10
aftertafSomada142:  kde has a picture previewer, gnome must have too... tried a right click in nautilus?01:11
Somada142the built-in program opens one at a time so i'll try gthumb01:11
godzerokai_: can you play a wav from harddrive w/o clipping, etc01:11
Wilfubotu?01:12
deFryskSomada142, should do the trick :)01:12
holycowwhat is the name of the other ubuntu help site other than wiki.ubuntu.com?  it was unrelated to the project it self but had great how to's01:12
kai_godzero, yes01:12
deFryskholycow, that one is unmentioned here and unreliable01:12
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kai_mp3/ogg/wav from HD works01:12
holycowokay01:12
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godzerokai_: set read speed lower01:13
Somada142isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?01:13
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johnnybezakhaha the suspense of waiting for all the packages to install on my breezy update is killing me01:13
bob2Somada142: depends on your hardware01:14
kai_godzero, i cant copy wavs from cd to hd neighter. How do i set the readspeed lower?01:14
Somada142i have a on board sound card on my gigabyte mb01:14
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boxerboyis that breezy hot-to guide gonna be out before the release by some chance?01:14
boxerboyhow-to*01:14
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godzerohrm, I'm in knoppix right now; which player are you using?01:15
Somada142i tried both totem,ruthmbox and they use only 3 speakers01:16
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Somada142they don't use the 2 rear speakers01:16
Somada142rythmbox*01:16
samu2did something big happen? there are 53 updates available all of a sudden01:16
Somada142breezy preview01:16
holycowhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53050&highlight=mythtv  <-- okay this is nifty01:16
boxerboywhen was last time you updated it?01:17
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Somada142what are the updates breezy introdues?01:17
Somada142damn ..introduces*01:17
johnnybezakSomada142: loads of them01:17
samu2i update whenever possible01:17
Somada142like?01:18
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Frafrahi all01:18
Somada142should i wait for the final or should i update now?01:18
fooboyis ubuntu for n00bs01:18
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johnnybezakSomada142: like loads of updated packages, new gnome01:18
Smoking_n00bcan i use midnight commander with ubuntu, i installed it with synaptic but i am unable to launch midnight commander01:18
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johnnybezakfoob: what do you mean?01:18
johnnybezakfooboy: like linspire do you mean?01:19
Frafrai can't install vlc on breezy (it need dbus and libhal, but it can't install those). what i must do?01:19
fooboyi dunno01:19
fooboylike suse01:19
fooboyi like ubuntu01:20
Smoking_n00b<my opinion> i have ercently installed and played with suse,debian,ubuntu,vector. i think ubuntu is the most n00b friendly01:20
johnnybezakfooboy: well its different to suse. it uses gnome by default, but it's not harder than suse. it recognises hardware well software updates installation is good01:20
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fooboysometimes it seems a bit restrictive01:20
johnnybezakfooboy: in what way?01:20
Frafracan i install vlc on breezy?01:21
fooboyjust01:21
fooboyin the default install01:21
johnnybezakFrafra: i don't see why not01:22
fooboybut it is easy to use01:22
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johnnybezakfooboy: ok i just don't get how it's restrictive, it has a *huge* amount of packages you can install01:23
Frafrajohnnybezak: sudo apt-get install vlc doesn't works01:23
Frafrait need dbus and libhal, but it can't install they01:23
fooboyyeah01:23
fooboycan u get a KDE desktop01:23
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Smoking_n00bfresh install of ubuntu, i dont remember it asking for a root user/password, i only created one user. how do i become root?01:24
johnnybezakFrafra: when did you last do an update01:24
HrdwrBoB!rootsuso01:24
ubotuHrdwrBoB: No idea01:24
HrdwrBoB!rootsudo01:24
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:24
bob2Smoking_n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:24
johnnybezakSmoking_n00b: to execute commands with root type sudo commandname01:24
Smoking_n00bbob2 thanks01:24
bob2Smoking_n00b: the installer explained this and made you hit 'enter' at one point...01:24
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Smoking_n00bi was pretty tired when i installed ubuntu :)01:24
fooboyi could type sudo passwd01:24
fooboya set the root password01:25
Frafrajohnnybezak: 1 min ago01:25
Smoking_n00bbob2, i installed konsole from synaptic, but cant seem to launch it or find it, any ideas?01:25
holycowhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&page=1&pp=10&highlight=mythtv  <-- neat01:25
holycownote to noobs: make sure you backup your xorg.conf file if you try the stuff in the post01:26
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Somada142Question : isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?, I've tried both totem.rythmbox and even when i set the sound to 5.1 from totem's options it still's uses only 3 speakers01:27
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bob2Smoking_n00b: alt-f2 konsole <enter>01:27
boxerboywait did i read that right if i type in sudo -s i dont have to type sudo before each command?01:27
bob2Somada142: depends on your hardware01:27
bob2boxerboy: yes01:27
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Smoking_n00bbob2 thank you :)01:28
boxerboythank you that sudo b4 each command was getting kinda old01:28
bob2Smoking_n00b: you can use the menu editor "smeg" to put it in the menu if you like01:28
wedgeVhow do i get the restricged formats stuff for breezy?01:28
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fooboyis their anyway to get an X-nested terminal in ubuntu01:28
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bob2sure01:29
bob2Xnest01:29
bob2maybe Xephyr is in breezy, too01:29
Smoking_n00bbob2, it launched konsole, but i am used to typing MC to get midnight commander. this didnt work ,what have i done wrong?01:29
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bob2Smoking_n00b: did you install mc?01:29
ishiti installed skype n its not oppening01:30
WermutHow can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.01:30
Smoking_n00bbob2 ,no. i thought it was a part of konsole, i installed konsole01:30
ishitany help plz01:30
godzerokai_: example: xmms, options, audio i/o plug tab, audio cd reader from list, configure, output tab, cdrom speed01:30
bob2Smoking_n00b: no, midnight commander is another program that existed for about ten years before konsole did01:30
bob2Smoking_n00b: install "mc" with your packagemananegemtn tool of choice01:30
bob2ishit: you need to be more specific01:31
ishiti got an error:error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:31
aftertafishit:  probably have to pay now ;)01:31
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Smoking_n00bbob2, thanks , i will try to do that.01:31
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ishitthis is the error - -error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:31
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ishitwat do i do01:32
bob2ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c10201:32
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SpongeLinuxcan anyone help me to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz01:32
ishitk ill try jus a sec01:32
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Smoking_n00bbob2, i search in synaptic package manager for midnight commander, it only finds the konsole that i installed earlier. is there another search place i can use with synaptic?01:32
wedgeVwhere is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?01:33
SpongeLinuxcan anyone help me i want to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz01:33
bob2!+repositories01:33
uboturepositories is, like, totally, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:33
bob2Smoking_n00b: ^^01:33
bob2Smoking_n00b: it's in universe in the package called "mc"01:33
Somada142Anyone kows anything about gnomebaker?01:33
ishitno bob it did not work01:33
Smoking_n00bbob2, thanks again01:33
SpongeLinuxcan anyone know how to install it01:34
bob2SpongeLinux: what is it?01:34
bob2ishit: "did not work" is useless01:34
godzerokai_:?01:34
bob2ishit: paste the error to #flood or give up01:34
SpongeLinuxi want to install this filename emd-0.5.tar.gz01:34
ishitthen??01:34
reikihmmm... ok I have serious problems with the mplayer plugin for firefox. It crashes firefox :)  Sometimes. Othertimes it gives me sound and no video or other times nothing at all01:34
bob2SpongeLinux: and what on earth is it?01:34
Smoking_n00bhow do i copy text from the xchat window?01:34
bob2ishit: read what I said01:34
bob2Smoking_n00b: select, middle click to paste it01:34
Smoking_n00b:)01:34
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ishit #flood01:34
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kai_godzero, i do not use xmms....01:35
SpongeLinuxits a media player for linux01:35
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wedgeVno one knows?01:35
ishitwats  #flood01:35
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godzerokai_: what do you use?01:35
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kai_rhytmbox, and gnome cd player for cds01:35
aftertafishit:  join #flood, its a channel01:35
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bob2ishit: an IRC channel01:35
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johnnybezakishit: for putting large amounts of crap in there that would spam a normal channel01:36
onkarshindeHow can one propose any application to be included in universe repository?01:36
nemptorhello everybody!01:36
wedgeVwhere is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?01:36
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nemptori want to ask something, about cedega?01:36
LipsanteriHi! Which file system type should i use with ubuntu, ext2 or ext3?01:37
johnnybezakonkarshinde: what do you want to get packaged01:37
onkarshindeLipsanteri: ext301:37
bob2onkarshinde: wiki/MOTU01:37
hhurttaLipsanteri: ext3 or reiserfs01:37
bob2Lipsanteri: ext301:37
Lipsanteriok, thanks :)01:37
bob2ishit: sudo aptitude install01:37
bob2ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt01:37
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onkarshindejohnnybezak: I was hoping that SeaMonkey alpha (now community managed Mozilla Suite) will make to universe before Breezy release.01:38
ishitk bob ill try01:38
ishitjus sec01:38
onkarshindebob2: On exactly which page?01:38
johnnybezakonkarshinde: ah ok01:38
Smoking_n00bbob2, why are some software sources disabled by default?01:38
bob2onkarshinde: dunno, ask them: #ubuntu-motu01:38
bob2Smoking_n00b: because people should know they're going to install unsupported or non-free crap before selecting it in synaptic01:39
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uberBRAThello people01:39
Smoking_n00bOH!01:39
uberBRATi can't get ubuntu to connect to the internet using my adsl modem01:39
uberBRATadsl-start doesn't work01:39
ishitno luck bob01:39
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bob2ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c10201:40
bob2and god skype is shit01:40
bob2uberBRAT: pon dsl-provider01:40
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uberBRATbob2: what?01:40
ompaulbob2, tell e-bay :)01:40
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bob2uberBRAT: assuming you used pppoeconf to configure it01:40
ishiteven k3b has the same error01:40
messiahshi01:40
bob2ishit: then stop installing junk from outside ubuntu01:40
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messiahsi have a quetion01:40
bob2ishit: or someone has toasted your disk01:40
ishithehe01:40
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bob2k3b is in ubuntu, anyway01:40
bob2you have no excuse, there01:40
ishiteverytime i instal ubuntu it does not instal properly01:41
johnnybezakmessiahs: shoot01:41
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SoleKillerumm guys01:41
bob2ishit: then perhaps your disk is screwed01:41
messiahsi have a ubuntu hoary in my PC01:41
ishitits a brand new disk01:41
SoleKillercan i get some help?01:41
messiahsand i want update to breezy01:41
bob2SoleKiller: perhaps if you ask a question...01:42
SoleKillerlol01:42
ompaul!tell SoleKiller about ask01:42
ishitn anyways i tried wit another disk01:42
bob2messiahs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes01:42
johnnybezakmessiahs: a hedge hog in your computer that sounds nasty ;)01:42
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ishitbob: is my motherboard incompatible01:43
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SoleKillerokok01:43
SoleKilleri think im ready01:43
bob2ishit: I doubt that01:43
ishitcause its only wit my machine01:43
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ompaulishit, please change your nick its crap01:44
messiahsthanks01:44
SoleKilleri treid to iinstall kubuntu on a p1 and the xorg thingie didnt run maybe coz i dont have enough ram or my crad is not good enough 4 kde01:44
SoleKilleranyways01:44
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SoleKilleris there a distro you know will work on most pcs from that age?01:44
SoleKillermaybe the old kern?01:44
ishitbob: its a new system01:44
bob2so"that age"?01:44
bob2aren't you going to tell us about your computer first?01:44
ishitompaul: shut up jackass01:44
SoleKillerhumz01:45
SoleKillerwell01:45
SoleKillerthought i should01:45
ishitwat do i do bob01:45
johnnybezakeverybody lets chill out and spread the ubuntu01:45
bob2ompaul: ishit stop it01:45
bob2and please do try to use English in here01:45
SoleKilleroh no one talks to me lol01:45
SoleKillerill shutup01:45
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bob2SoleKiller: you haven't actually told us about your machine01:46
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ishithey bob is there any other version of ubuntu01:46
bob2KDE is not really suitable for a pentium one, tho01:46
SoleKillerhumz01:46
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SoleKillerthats the basic prob01:46
bob2and you need 48MB of ram to actually install01:46
SoleKilleri have it for so long01:46
SoleKilleri forgot its info01:46
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SoleKillergot any of those cool lil progs that tells ya shit01:46
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SoleKillerabout the pc01:46
bob2that won't help01:46
SoleKiller?01:46
SoleKillerlike that miranda?01:46
bob2no01:46
bob2it doesn't matter01:46
SoleKillerwell01:47
SoleKilleri got 64 ram01:47
ishitbob: then wat do i do01:47
ishitbob: i need k3b01:47
bob2ishit: "wat" is not a word01:47
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bob2and stop going on and on at me01:47
bloodnikHow does one uninstall something installed from source?01:47
bob2if your ubuntu install is broken, it's either your fault or bad hardware01:47
bob2try burning the CD again and actually checking it first01:47
bob2bloodnik: make uninstall may work01:47
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bob2bloodnik: generally you install things to a specific dir (e.g. /usr/local/blah/) for this reason01:48
aftertafanyone help with chroot problem?01:48
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SoleKillerthe install is ok01:48
SoleKillerthe disk is fine01:48
ishitbob: looks like i gotta dump ubuntu01:48
concept10bob2: this girl told me she plays football01:48
aftertaferror:    sudo: unable to lookup dell-laptop via gethostbyname()01:48
bob2ishit: oh well, good luck with whatever else01:48
bloodnikI did make install. Guess I should have thought of make uninstall :p01:48
reikimy wireless mouse is dying... batteries... dang it.... shutting down for work anyways, so see y'all later01:48
bloodnikkthxbai01:48
bob2aftertaf: fix /etc/hosts01:48
ishitbob: cause wat cus b the prob01:48
bob2ishit: "cus" is not a word either01:49
Smoking_n00blol01:49
bob2ishit: good luck with whatever OS you try in the future01:49
aftertafon main system or debootstapped system?01:49
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bob2aftertaf: it has to resolve on both01:49
aftertafhehe ok.01:49
Somada142bob201:49
ishitbob: but i like ubuntu. Its just if i can get things right01:49
Lipsanteriand another question: Partition magic is asking "would create a swap partition?" what does that mean and shoul i do it?01:49
Somada142don't be so picky01:49
bob2starting lines with my nick and no other text is shockingly annoying01:49
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bob2Lipsanteri: you mean the installer?01:50
Somada142sorry i pressed Enter by mistake01:50
Lipsanteri"create linux swap partition?"01:50
ishitbob2: hey is there a way out of this01:50
bob2after a thousand mispellings of "because", your eyes will bleed too01:50
bob2ishit: probably01:50
infinitoi can't delete a file using rm, any idea?01:50
bob2ishit: try asking on the user list01:50
bob2ishit: define "can;t"01:50
bob2infinito: ^01:50
bob2ie show us the error01:50
infinitothe fiel is screwd by a fs problem...01:50
ompaulSoleKiller, perhaps try the server install but I doubt if there is a wm that would treat that hardware right - some disto that keeps track of an old kernel might work, but don't ask me to name one, I don't track any of them01:50
bob2infinito: probably nothing you can do then01:51
ishitbob2: or should i try breezy01:51
bob221:50:45           bob2 | ishit: try asking on the user list01:51
SoleKillerbecause because because the wizard of ozz01:51
infinitobob2: but it's the laptop-mode binary... i need to removeit to install again...01:51
ishitbob2: how01:51
bob2and making threats of leaving ubuntu is stupid01:51
bob2no one cares what you use01:51
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SoleKillerBecause!!!!01:51
bob2infinito: if your disk is screwed, how will that help?01:52
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infinitono, just that file after a fsck.ext301:52
SoleKillerthe question is why will it help01:52
ishitbob2: i tried kubuntu and had the same probs01:52
ompaulSoleKiller, one of the problems that you might face is if choose to do that is if the kernel gets 'unsupported'01:52
SoleKillerand the answer is01:52
bob2ishit: then ask on the list already01:52
SoleKillerbecause!01:52
vuAnybody running Ubuntu under Vmware 5.5?01:52
ompaulSoleKiller, take the singing to #ubuntu-offtopic :)01:52
SoleKillerlol01:53
LipsanteriThis thing is saying "A linux swap partition is recommended for a linux installation. you will get better performance blaablaablaa... Would you like to create a swap partition now?" Yes or no? :)01:53
ishitbob2: wat list01:53
ompaulLipsanteri, the answer is yes01:53
aftertafLipsanteri:  yes01:53
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holycowhttp://www.abarbaccia.com/  <-- oh thats nice01:53
ishitbob: k bye01:53
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ompaulLipsanteri, the size is around twice the amount of ram you have up to about 2G (if you ever need to use that much you are in trouble :))01:53
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pl_icehi01:54
Lipsanteriok :)01:54
Lipsanteriok, i'm a beginner with these things so try to understand :D01:54
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aftertafshame....01:54
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johnnybezakalright guys wish me luck, i'm going to reboot into breezy01:55
aftertafLipsanteri:  we all start somewhere...don't worry01:55
aftertafjohnnybezak:  good luck....01:55
rambo3sudo rebooot01:55
onkarshindejohnnybezak: Best luck01:55
alpinemikewow01:55
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alpinemikewhere are we all from?01:55
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Sly-CollegeUkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk01:55
Smoking_n00bin repositories, what is the difference between binary and source01:55
rambo3just fixed my afterstepbuntu01:56
pl_iceanyone knows when i use cfdisk, which partition is for fat 32 , so that when i format xp will see it? i tried fat32 LBA(c1) xp didn't see01:56
Smoking_n00bwhich should i select?01:56
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hhurttaSmoking_n00b: binary01:56
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Smoking_n00bhhurtta: thanks01:56
hhurttasource installs source packages for you to compile01:56
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Whistlerhello01:56
Smoking_n00bhhurtta: so binaries are already compiled?01:57
hhurttayes01:57
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Smoking_n00bhhurtta, thanks01:57
hhurttanp01:57
CaiN_SAthats why they are binaries :/01:57
infinitoany idea if howto change permissions to this file:01:57
infinito?-wsr-x-wx  255 1881165200 1918959679 1313429331 1970-01-01 01:00 laptop-mode01:57
hhurttaCaiN_SA: concept of binary is not clear to everyone01:58
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thenukeinfinito: with chmod?01:58
aftertafinfinito:  chmod.01:58
Somada142i have a rather meaningless question : can you all do the stuff in ubuntu as well as you did in Windows?01:58
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infinitoaftertaf, thenuke: i've got "operation not permited" and i'm root01:58
aftertafSomada142:  better01:58
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Somada142really?01:59
thenukeinfinito: if you have problems chmodding that file or something, please then ask about it and not about how to change permissions generally ;)01:59
fobiahey anyone help i got this error: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:59
aftertafwhatis laptop-mode and where01:59
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aftertaffobia:  breezy or hoary, your ubuntu version?01:59
fluffybunny_i have an error message on shut down: Fail: Deactivating swap....  is this bad and if so, how can i fix it?01:59
fluffybunny_aside: is there a website detailing how breezy is improved vs hoary?01:59
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dade`know bug with xorg and keyboard on breezy ?01:59
henrymSomada142, better for me too, except games, but I didn't really play games before anyway01:59
infinitothenuke, aftertaf : im sorry. that file got screwed after fsck.ext3, i need to reinstall this binary, but ccan't get rid of the bad one01:59
dade`it's about 4 days it does not work01:59
SlikeSomada142: just give it a try and you'll see :-) I don't miss a thing01:59
samu2id like to see a site with changes too01:59
fobiaaftertaf: hoary01:59
Somada142yap that's a problem for me too02:00
deFryskSomada142, exept for being ripped of you can do about the same02:00
samu2if you play the latest crappy pc games you might not be too happy with linux02:00
fobiaaftertaf: wat do i do02:00
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aftertaffobia:  dont know.....02:01
Smoking_n00b< i still keep a win XP install around for my games> :)02:01
fobiai tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-   aftertaf:02:01
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Somada142Oh question...after i insert my usb flash disk and then unmount it the led keeps going on and off...what should i do?02:01
onkarshindeWhere can I learn the .deb packaging?02:01
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codenutHi gang, still cannot get PPP set up on that machine.02:02
fobiaanyone can help???02:02
rambo3no02:02
onkarshindefobia: State the question02:02
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pl_icehey, what partition shall i choose under cfdisk for fat32, so windows can see it?02:03
Whistler!upgrade2breezy02:03
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:03
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fobiaonkarshinde: i tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-  k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:03
johnnybezakwell guys i survived my breezy install02:03
fobiaonkarshinde: can u help plz02:03
Somada142have there been any reports of problems with breezy up till now?02:04
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onkarshindefobia: Where did you install k3b from?02:04
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fobiaonkarshinde: synaptic02:04
johnnybezakSomada142: haha of course its a beta version of an operating system :)02:04
WermutHow can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.02:04
Smoking_n00bThanks again for everyones help ! :) I'm out.02:04
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Somada142like what should i upgrade or not?02:04
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fobiaonkarshinde: im havin lots of problems with ubuntu02:05
onkarshindefobia: Its weird. Synaptic should install all the dependencies. Still check that you have package libqt3c102-mt installed02:05
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deFryskfobia added funny repos ?02:06
fobiaonkarshinde: its there02:06
fobiaonkarshinde: i hav to instal ubuntu four or five times for it to instal02:06
ompaul!tell SoleKiller about root02:07
fobiaompaul the rascal02:07
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fobiaonkarshinde: is it possible that my motherboard is uncompatible02:08
onkarshindefobia: I have no idea about it. Motherboard incompatibility won't cause problem with shared libraries.02:08
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fobiaonkarshinde: because i hav never managed to instal ubuntu smoothly02:10
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johnnybezakhey guys, I'm getting a problem with the f-spot package, it worked when I first installed it now its not working. how can i do a fresh install of it and it's dependancies?02:10
onkarshindejohnnybezak: Mark for reinstallation from Synaptic02:10
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fobiaonkarshinde: n my system is brand new02:10
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johnnybezakonkarshinde: how do i do it from cli?02:11
onkarshindefobia: Sorry. But I don't think that should cause problem. Do you have problems with other distros as well?02:11
onkarshindejohnnybezak: sudo apt-get --remove purge packagename will remove package along with its configuration.02:12
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onkarshindejohnnybezak: Then you can reinstall it.02:12
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cr4shhey guyz can anyone help me setup proftpd02:12
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fobiaonkarshinde: ya wit kubuntu also, but fdora worked fine02:13
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fobiaonkarshinde: r u indian02:14
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prolsdompaul, i have a FX5600. Can you help me with configuring the drivers for it? thank you.02:15
ompaul!tell prolsd about nvidia02:15
onkarshindefobia: Yes. I am. How did you know that?02:15
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fobiaonkarshinde: i am indian too02:16
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onkarshindefobia: Where are you from?02:17
fobiaonkarshinde: pondicherry, south india02:17
fobiaonkarshinde: hey help me out man02:17
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onkarshindefobia: I really don't have any idea. Are you trying breezy? You may want to try Hoary just because it is stable.02:18
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fobiaonkarshinde: i am on hoary02:19
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onkarshindefobia: Can you tell me your system configuration?02:19
fobiaonkarshinde: p4 2.4gh - asrock mboard - 380mb of ram - 40 gb hdd02:21
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fobiaonkarshinde: ubuntu never instals properly02:22
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onkarshindefobia: Since it is p4 i don't see any reason for the problem. I really don't have any idea what is causing this.02:23
fobiafedora worked fine02:23
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fobiaonkarshinde: do u think breezy might work02:24
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fobiaonkarshinde: i mean it works. but skype, k3b n som others dont work doesnt02:26
onkarshindefobia: No idea. I haven't tried it yet myself.02:26
praise_hello, could some one help me with installing nvidia driver02:26
dazvid!tell praise_ about nvidia02:26
fobiaonkarshinde: they instal smoothly but dont open02:26
dazvidfollow that praise_ it worked for me fine02:26
fobiaonkarshinde: how do i get al the useful libraried02:27
praise_i get an error with being unable to load nvidia.ko02:27
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onkarshindefobia: skype, k3b use qt for interface. So it seems that the some library related to qt is missing.02:29
fobiaonkarshinde: ok, so wat do i do02:30
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fobiaonkarshinde: ya its the interface which is not workin02:32
onkarshindefobia: try this command 'sudo apt-get -f update' and tell me what it says.02:32
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fluffybunny_how do I add applications to the gnome menu?02:33
fobiaonkarshinde: i did that n tried to open k3b, but its the same02:33
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peterretiefif I set up a bridged ath0/eth0 network as br0, do i assign br0 as the dhcpd port?02:34
onkarshindefluffybunny_: You need to install a package named smeg for meny editing.02:34
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onkarshindefobia: What was output of command?02:35
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: thanks02:35
fobiaonkarshinde: it did an update02:35
ThreeDayMonkIs there a command-line way to open a file with its default handler?  (I.e. as if it were double clicked in Nautilus.)02:36
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fobiaonkarshinde: k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared obj ect file: No such file or directory02:37
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mjrThreeDayMonk, gnome-open seems to do something like that02:37
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nlogax6c6c6c02:37
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: no smeg in synaptic?02:37
ThreeDayMonkmjr: perfect!  Thanks02:37
nlogaxcan someone remind me how much disk a stock install of Ubuntu (Hoary or Breezy) takes?  Isn't it, like 1.8 GB?02:37
onkarshindefluffybunny_: Let me check.02:37
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onkarshindefluffybunny_: It is in universe repository. You need to enable Universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list02:38
fobiaonkarshinde: wats the way out02:38
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airoxHi, I'm trying to compile a program. Which things would I need to get it to compile ? Like which apt packages ?02:38
dazvidgcc02:39
ThreeDayMonkbuild-essential02:39
fluffybunny_onkarshinde: hmmm... i thought I had done that... let me double check (hoary repositories, right?)02:39
Wermutairox: apt-get build-essential02:39
airoxOk.02:39
dazvidoh wait02:39
fobiaonkarshinde: its the interface which does not apear02:39
dazvidYou mean installing .. -_-02:39
ThreeDayMonkairox: you'll also need the -dev packages for any libraries it uses02:40
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airoxOk.02:40
aftertafwhat do i need to copy to a chroot system to be able to use normal user & sudo i it?02:40
aftertaf!repository02:40
ubotuaftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:40
aftertaf!repos02:40
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:40
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airox./configure doesn't seem to work though O_o02:41
airoxgijs@hpx4000:~/Desktop/gbtcr-0.86$ ./configure02:41
airoxbash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:41
fobiaonkarshinde: wat do i do02:41
onkarshindefobia: Sorry, but I have no idea then. Just make sure once again that all the needed packages are installed.02:41
fobiaonkarshinde: how??02:42
onkarshindefobia: you can try this 'sudo apt-get check' This will check for broken dependencies02:42
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fobiaonkarshinde: its fine02:42
aftertafdoes anyone have list of breezy repositories?02:43
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netjoinwenas02:43
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onkarshindeaftertaf: What do you mean? You just need to replace hoary with breezy in your sources.list.02:43
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fobiaonkarshinde: last time i installed k3b worked02:44
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aftertafonkarshinde:   except on the backports repos, i gather...02:44
yahalomanyone use trillian on ubuntu?02:45
dazvidGAIM is linux equivalent of trillian02:45
dazvidso not much point really02:45
str8edgeyahalom: try gaie02:45
str8edgeoops gaim02:45
fobiaonkarshinde: i guess i gotta give up02:45
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yahalomdazvid: i know gaim. just its different. like gaim. just wondered whether anyone got trillian working.02:46
dazvidFair enough02:46
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fobiaonkarshinde: thnx anyways02:46
Whistlerhello02:46
onkarshindeyahalom: Is trillian open source? Is there any official port available?02:46
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Whistleri wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?02:47
yahalomonkarshinde: nope02:47
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seliniumhi guys, a burning issue! :) For some reason when I try to burn an iso it is saying to insert a blank cd, I have tried 2 from fresh packets. Any ideas?02:47
yahalomselinium: what burning ap?02:48
thenukeselinium: could the image be bigger than the cd-r's?02:48
fobiaonkarshinde: and if i get breezy then i have to replace hoary hedghog by breexy badger in sources.list???02:48
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Whistleri wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?02:49
lesshastehow do you list all installed packages by size02:49
onkarshindefobia: Yes. Replace hoary by breezy02:49
seliniumI am trying to burn Breezy Live. The discs are 7--mb and the breezy iso is 650. I am using right-click/write to disc02:49
yahalomWhistler: what are ur options? iso or what?02:49
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Whistlernether mind i figured it out02:50
yahalomselinium: sudo apt-get install k3b and try it, see if u get the same issue02:50
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seliniumyahalom: Will do but i didn't used to get this faliure02:50
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Whistlerhow do i make an iso image of a ubuntu cd?02:50
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clavicepshey02:51
yahalomWhistler: just download the iso image from ubuntulinux.org and upload that02:51
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netjoinany spanish chanel?02:52
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yahalomselinium: if it worked it will work again, u running breezy?02:52
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Whistleryahalom cant i make iso of a cd? It would be a lot faster02:52
seliniumyahalom: nope hoary02:52
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yahalomWhistler: yeah i know with k3b u can take the iso off the cd02:53
lesshastehow do you list all installed packages by size?02:53
Whistleryahalom can i use gnome-baker for that?02:53
Whistlercause i cant find how to do it?02:53
seliniumyahalom: oh blast, I have been trying to keep my machine KDE free! :)02:53
yahalomWhistler: u probably can. not sure. look for the option to extract the image from the cd.02:53
yahalomselinium: yeah i know how u feel. me too.02:54
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yahalomselinium: play around with gnome-baker maybe it has that option too02:54
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slim_ffI am new to Ubuntu and I am already having prblems02:54
yahalomselinium: i'm at work on a windows box, so i cant check myself02:54
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yahalomselinium: all that kde plastic sticks in ur mind though, so i remember k3b02:55
selinium:)02:55
onkarshindeWhistler: You should be able to gnome-baker to make iso of a cd02:55
onkarshindeslim_ff: What problems?02:55
johnnybezakhey guys when I launch f-spot i get errors about glib sharp and what I think is wierd there is some stuff about f-spot.exe there02:56
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Whistleronkarshinde i cant find an option in gnome baker02:56
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slim_ffafter installing I login in and it put me at a command propt, but I ccan not get it to load Ubuntu02:56
yahalomjohnnybezak: query me ur full error02:56
johnnybezakyahalom is that /query?02:56
__filip_how can i run an dc hub in ubuntu?02:56
onkarshindeWhistler: See if there is something like Copy a CD02:56
Whistleroh02:56
lesshaste I just want the equivalent of02:57
lesshasterpm -qa --queryformat '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{size}\n' | sort -nr +102:57
netjoinis the root password the same the first user installer?02:57
onkarshindeslim_ff: Are you sure you did a complete install? And after reboot did  you wait for all the package configuration? Or did you yourself shutdown the system in between?02:57
yahalomnetjoin: sudo root yes02:57
Whistleronkarshinde thx i found it02:57
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slim_ffI let it shut down the system02:58
netjoinok thx02:58
yahalomjohnnybezak: yes02:58
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onkarshindenetjoin: Actually there is no root account by default02:58
Madeyehey02:58
netjoinaha02:58
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Madeyeguys, is there anyway to install safari on ubuntu ?02:58
onkarshindenetjoin: But you can do some system administration tasks by using the first user you created. It will ask for the password of the same account.02:59
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onkarshindeMadeye: Is Safari opensource? I suppose not.02:59
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johnnybezakyahalom: what do you reckon02:59
aftertafonkarshinde:  any of the non official repos that are quoted by ubotu exist in breezy?02:59
netjoinok thx very m02:59
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aftertafnot just the .archive. ones?02:59
NET||abuseI wonder could someone help me with updating the kernel source package02:59
onkarshindeaftertaf: Can you give an example?03:00
cristianooi bom dia03:00
yahalomjohnnybezak: what on earth man? where did u get that?03:00
cristianoalguem ai fala portugues03:00
onkarshindeslim_ff: And then what happen after shutdown or reboot? I mean the first reboot whicle installation.03:00
cristianoi'm braziliam03:00
NET||abusei have the latest kernel, but synaptic doesn't want to download the latest source, it's still sitting there with 2.4.2703:00
johnnybezakyahalom: haha that printed when i tried to open f-spot in the terminal, wierd hey?03:00
aftertafhttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/03:00
aftertafonkarshinde:  ^^^03:00
slim_ffonkarshinde: Ok, now its saying this: Ubuntu come with absolutely no warrenty, to the extent permitted by application law. The a comman prompt03:01
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yahalomjohnnybezak: yes. where did u download it from?03:01
cristianogosto no ubuntu muito mais rodando o kde03:01
johnnybezakyahalom: the ubuntu repo's03:01
aftertafNET||abuse:  what distro are you on?03:01
osfameron!pt03:01
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.03:01
NET||abusethis one, hoary hedgehog03:01
aftertafand you have 2.4 kernel? not possible03:01
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aftertaflook for linux-source NET||abuse03:02
NET||abuseno, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386 but the kernel source package in synaptic wont upgrade past 2.4.2703:02
onkarshindeslim_ff: Try this command 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop'03:02
yahalomjohnnybezak: umm. me not on ubuntu now. try searching apt-cache search or whateve for the f-spot dev files if any.03:02
occyE: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-10.1_all.deb:  unable to stat `./etc/X11/xkb/symbols' (which I was about to install): Input/output error03:02
aftertafpackage now called linux-source NET||abuse03:02
NET||abuseoh, not called kernel source anymore?03:02
aftertafnope, not in ubuntu03:02
aftertafafaik03:02
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johnnybezakyahalom: i dunno what's going on haha03:04
occyanyone seen that error before?03:04
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yahalomjohnnybezak: sudo synaptic and search for f-spot see if u find any dev03:04
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onkarshindeaftertaf: About the repos you mentioned I suppose it is not related to Ubuntu at all. It is related to KUbuntu.03:05
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sipiorhopefully not a dumb question: i'm trying to get ssh-askpass to work with keychain on Breezy Badger, and it refuses to accept my passphrase. however, invoking keychain ans ssh-askpass work fine after gnome starts up. anyone else have this difficulty?03:06
johnnybezakyahalom: nothing there03:06
linuxsbartleyDoes anyone have some time to work with me on the difference between 5.04 and 5.10 when installing Server w/ xdm?03:06
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aftertafubuntu with KDE, yes03:06
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yahalomjohnnybezak: ok try this. apt-get remove f-spot, and then look for it in google and download it from the site and see if u still get probs03:07
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occyapt-get -f install didn't fix it. :(03:07
yahalomjohnnybezak: ok?03:07
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onkarshindeaftertaf: So you wont use that repos anyway.03:08
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occyhttp://pastebin.com/36246203:08
occycould someone take a look at that?03:08
johnnybezakyahalom: you mean compile it from source?03:08
aftertafonkarshinde:  i use KDE03:09
netjoinbye03:10
netjoin:)03:10
Mutantcan someone help me out? When I print to a PDF file, the owner is set to "nobody" and the group is set to "nogroup"... and so I have to "chmod 0777" the file before I can open it... and I was wondering if there was any way that I can print to the PDF and not have to chmod it...03:10
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occyIs Hoary broken at the moment?03:10
occydon't see anything in the topic about it.03:10
occyhttp://pastebin.com/362462  <-- I'm getting this03:10
slim_ffonkarshinde: keeps coming up bad command03:11
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johnnybezakwoops i just deleted all my home folder haha thank f*ck i've got it backed up03:11
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Chameleon22anyone knows of a nice ogg to mp3 converter, also mov to mp3 converter?03:12
onkarshindeaftertaf: Rioght. But I suppose you are using KDE on Ubuntu. So you won't need that repos.03:12
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aftertafi dunno..... onkarshinde03:13
aftertaf:/03:13
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onkarshindeslim_ff: What command did you try?03:14
aftertafoccy:  not exactly sexy as an error goes .....03:14
aftertafoccy:  tried apt-get install -f ?03:15
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occyaftertaf, yessir I did03:15
slim_ffonkarshinde: sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop03:15
occyaftertaf, same thing.03:15
onkarshindeslim_ff: Did it ask for a password?03:15
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aftertafyessir tt's enough!!!!!03:15
slim_ffno03:15
aftertaf:D03:15
occyaftertaf, the apt-get -f install did some stuff and then it didn't return an error.03:15
linuxsbartleyI am trying to do a server install of 5.10 and then use xdm & xfce.  On 5.04 this was as simple as installing server, followed by x-window-system-core, xterm and synaptic.  Then using Universe, installing xdm and xfce4 then rebooting.  The system would come back up w/ xdm & xfce.  On 5.10, I followed the exact same process.  The system tries to go to the xdm gui but fails and drops me to Alt-F8 w/ a message of "Starting X display man03:16
linuxsbartleyager".03:16
occyaftertaf, heh03:16
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aftertafhehe03:16
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occywell, My feeling is, if someone is kind enough to respond to help, the least I can do is be polite.03:16
occy:)03:16
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aftertafno sirree i cant answer that one ;)03:16
BombuI've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?03:16
onkarshindeslim_ff: Your installation is not complete? Did it even ask for a username password at start?03:16
occyhmm03:16
occyyeah03:16
occythis is a suck.  :(03:16
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slim_ffonkarshinde: yes it does and i enter it and it takes me to a commcand prompt03:17
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onkarshindeslim_ff: Can you once try the command without sudo word03:18
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Bombucan someone help me?03:18
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Naked31about what ?03:18
BombuI've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?03:18
Naked31?03:19
Naked31I don't understand your question?03:19
osfameronthe CDs do take rather a long time to arrive03:20
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Bombuyeah, but it never gave me that message before. does that mean that they are being sent?03:20
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lesshaste I have just received an email in thunderbird and when I reply the text is some super weird foreign font. How do I fix that?03:21
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aftertafuse screen :D03:21
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aftertaffor screen is good03:22
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aftertafreboujou spiral_ ;)03:22
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spiralaftertaf: re03:22
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spiralhi everybody03:23
spiralcould anyone tell me how to have usplash working with a home-made kernel.org kernel in breezy ?03:23
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Madeyeguys, what do you recommend to setup wine, winetools or winesetup ?03:24
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occyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post34844203:29
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mcrandellodid merillat change addresses?03:29
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mcrandellobecause apt-get update is throwing a royal hissyfit when it tries to get the packges.gz file :(03:31
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Whistlerhow do i add ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu to my sources list?03:31
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Whistleri know this mirror is safe03:32
Whistleri just dont know the syntax03:32
Whistlerof sources.list03:32
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Whistleranybody can help?03:32
mcrandellowhistler try "deb http://foo.whatever.com main" or something like that03:32
ds[de] just look at your existing sources.list and add your entry accordingly03:33
Puff-n-Stuffmorning all..quicky question..I have these extra codecs for mplayer...where should they be placed so mplayer can see them?03:33
mcrandelloI'm having problems getting the exact syntax on the url right myself03:33
Whistlermcrandello :)03:33
mcrandellothat worked?03:33
zorba64Puff-n-Stuff, /usr/lib/win3203:33
G|Patrickhi03:33
Puff-n-Stuffzorba64, thanks..03:33
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G|Patrickwhich command do i need to check wihch graphicdriver is in use?03:34
G|Patrickubuntu breezy 4.10p103:34
mcrandelloglxinfo03:34
mcrandelloshould show up the first line after that Patrick03:34
G|Patrickweired03:35
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G|Patrickpastbin for details, k?03:35
spiralnoone about usplash ?03:35
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zorba64Whistler, deb ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:35
G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/215103:36
G|Patrickthere is something wrong i guess since i have ati03:36
spiraldoes anyone know how I can install j2sdk 1.5 in breezy via apt ?03:36
G|Patrickwhich command is needer to reconfigure the xserver03:36
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reiki_workinstalled mplayer last night and the mplayer plugin for firefox. It doesn't open wmv files in firefox and when I try it either crashes firefox completely, just plays the sound, or does nothing at all. mplayer on it's own appears to work fine. So I think just the plugin is hosed. I'm not at that machine right now, but any clues as to where to look to get it straightened out would be appreciated03:36
Whistlerzorba64 i get E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)03:36
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Whistlerwhen i try to update03:36
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mcrandelloG|Patrick, I think you need to rename some of the GL files before instaling the ATI drivers03:37
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G|Patrickthe driver should be installed03:37
G|Patricki simpy upgraded to 4.1003:37
G|Patrickbut xorg config and anything else has been overwritten03:37
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zorba64Whistler: post your sources list to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/03:37
G|Patrickand i cant remember the command to restart xorg config03:37
mcrandelloI switched to nvidia myself so I'm a little fuzzzy on the detials but bet since you upgraded it overwrote the files and you'll need to re-reinstall the drivers maybe03:37
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G|Patricksudo xorgconf?03:37
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mcrandellofglrxconfig I think03:38
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mcrandellothat's if you want ATI's proprietary drivers03:38
G|Patrickhave u looked into my pastebin entry03:38
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/215203:38
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G|Patrickthere is sgi listed as graphicadatpet03:38
G|Patrickthere is sgi listed as graphicadapter03:38
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G|Patrickso i have to modify X first to use the correct driver03:38
G|Patrickk?03:38
G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2151 <--- look03:39
mcrandelloright, run fglrxconfig if you installed the ATI drivers or try changing the xorg.conf manuallly to say "fglrx" for the driver03:39
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G|Patrickwhere is the xorg.conf?03:39
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WhistlerG|Patrick /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:40
notnilCcan anyone help me with ubuntu? i can't get it to access the net but i can see the rest of my network (i'm very very new to this)03:40
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Colibrisera a tutti03:41
Whistlerzorba64 http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/215203:41
G|Patrickin xorg conf it says that fglrx is used03:41
G|Patrickbut thats obviously wrong03:41
zorba64Whistler: deb ftp://ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted03:41
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aftertaf!fr03:41
ubotumethinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais03:41
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mcrandellookay then what happened is the GL.so.conf or one of the files that looks a lot like it got overwrote when you upgraded G|Patrick03:42
Whistlerzorba64 thx03:42
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G|Patrickmcrandello: what do u mean exactly03:42
mcrandelloerr GL.so.103:42
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G|Patricki am still a noob and ahve no skills to think on the next edge :(03:42
zorba64Whistler: np03:42
jc-dentoni cannot find the manpage limits.conf on my ubuntu sys (breezy03:42
jc-dentonon debian sarge there is a manpage for limits.conf03:43
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mcrandelloone of the files that ATI installs is named the same thing as one of the files that ubuntu uses. xorg looks for this file when you load the video drivers03:43
G|Patrickmcrandello: it was about an half hour installation, i dont know which files have been overwritten at all...03:43
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mcrandellookay I'd reccomend reinstalling the ATI drivrs03:43
jc-dentonwhat is also strange is mp3 support03:43
G|Patrickwhich command starts xorg reconfiguration03:43
jc-dentonbeep media player supports mp303:43
jc-dentonthe gstreamer stuff does not03:43
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oscarhhi, i am having problem typing swedish characters in vim :(03:44
mcrandelloI don't think that's going to do it but xorgconfig03:44
G|Patricksimpy tell it plz03:44
zorba64G|Patrick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:44
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G|Patricki dont want to install it03:44
mcrandellobe sure to back up your existing /etx/X11/xorg.conf03:44
G|Patricki simply want to reconfigure it03:44
mcrandelloyou say you upgraded right?03:45
G|Patricksure03:45
G|Patrickwith synaptic03:45
aftertafsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:45
aftertafreconfigure03:45
mcrandellodollars to donuts when you did you got a new version of xorg. when it installed its files it overwrote the opengl driver that ATI gave you with its own03:45
G|Patrickkernel framebuffer interface? yes or no?03:46
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brenner'lo.  anyone have experience with setting up a winmodem (which i think i unfortunately have)03:46
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oscarhbrenner, i have one working03:46
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oscarhbrenner, using smartlink03:46
jc-dentonso where the fuck is that manpage?03:46
enyc brenner: depends on the type.. what chipset modem EXACTLY do you have?03:46
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oscarhbrenner, had to patch it though03:46
enycbrenner: running "/sbin/lspci" may well mention the modem type03:46
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notnilCcan anyone help me with why ubuntu won't connect to the internet?03:47
dbzdeathhey i am trying to run a 32bit mplayer on amd64 ubuntu...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=334873#post334873 as in that guide but i get the error mplayer32: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when trying to run it  can someone please help me?03:47
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mcrandellonotnilC, you using some kind of internet router?03:47
tretrethe European Commission want to keep all telephone and internet traffic data of all 450 million Europeans. If you are concerned about this plan, please sign the petition. http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com/03:47
notnilCyes mcrandello03:47
brennerenyc, i think it came up as unkown...i'm in xp now. but i can get the results of that scanModem shell script if you want03:47
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notnilCit lets winxp through but not ubuntu03:47
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enycbren: maybe ;-)03:47
enycbren: lspci is best, boot off ubuntu or knoppix or something and give us that information03:47
mcrandellotry bringing up the router's config page in firefox in ubuntu03:47
notnilCi was able to bring that up03:48
mcrandellohrmmm03:48
brennerenyc: argh...it's 56k so i have to disconnect...03:48
mcrandellowhat kind of router?03:48
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notnilCwould there be settings in it that stop linux from gaining access?? (i had same probs with fedora)03:48
mcrandelloI'm guessing there are03:48
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setite!dvd03:48
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras03:48
notnilCiconnectaccess62103:49
eolohi guys, always the same question!!!! I just installed kubuntu 5.04 and don't remember apt repository for java runtime envronment for amd 6403:49
notnilC(im aussie)03:49
eolosomeone can help me?03:49
enycdbzdeath: you may need 'ia32-libs' package03:49
mcrandelloas far as ubuntu is concerned your router is the internet... is your router set to port forward 80 to your windows machine?03:49
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dbzdeathenyc: i already have it...03:49
notnilChrmmm03:49
bob2eolo: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:49
eolothanks bob203:50
dbzdeathenyc: if it helps i get this when i run ld on /usr/bin/mplayer32 ld: warning: i386 architecture of input file `/usr/bin/mplayer32' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output03:50
enycdbzd: hrrm Im not familiar with this, sorry03:50
bob2er03:50
bob2ld is useless there03:50
bob2ldd migt be of some use03:50
G|Patrickok03:50
G|Patrickreconfiguration done03:51
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G|Patrickhave i make ne checksum03:51
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G|Patrickor can i restart now and check it?03:51
dbzdeathbob2: yeah it ouputs ... libstdc++.so.5 => not found03:51
G|Patrickhave it to restart?03:51
osfameronCan you get gvim on ubuntu?03:51
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bob2dbzdeath: there you go03:51
osfameronI tried to install gvim via synaptic but doesn't seem to have done anything much03:51
dbzdeathbob2: any idea on how to fix it?03:52
bob2seriously, if you care about binary crap, just use i38603:52
mcrandellotry "startx" from the console G|Patrick03:52
mcrandellono need to reboot03:52
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fluffybunny_i seem to have lost automount for my usb flash disk. also, the names displayed on the flashdisk are truncated to 8.3 format... how do I dix this03:52
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bob2osfameron: of course03:52
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notnilCmcrandello i can't find on the modem page where it tells me about the port forwarding03:53
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osfameronbob2: ah, now it's not finding it in synaptic, grrrrr03:53
bob2it's there03:53
mcrandellowhat's the exact device you're pluggint eht computer into notnilC ?03:53
bob2dbzdeath: install ia32-libs03:53
osfameronany particular repository?03:53
bob2dbzdeath: if you're using breezy, you have lost03:53
bob2osfameron: universe03:54
notnilCmodem router via ethernet03:54
occybob2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post348442   ( I'm getting errors when upgrading )03:54
fluffybunny_!usb03:54
ubotufluffybunny_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:54
occybob2, morning03:54
fluffybunny_!mount03:54
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives03:54
dbzdeathbob2: i already have... i'm using hoary and i only have libstdc++.so.6 and not .503:54
reiki_workfluffybunny_: can you unmount the flash drive and remount it?03:54
brennerenyc: ok, i'm gonna reboot and run lspci...can you wait 5 mins for me?03:54
bob2dbzdeath: odd03:54
enycbren: yes, but not too much longer03:54
jc-dentonso does anybody here have an idea why this manpage is not installed?03:54
fluffybunny_reiki_work: I have to manually mount and unmount it, but it used to do it as soon as I plugged it in?03:54
enycbren: you shold gfind communications device or something03:54
brennerenyc: right, brb03:54
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bob2dbzdeath: guess you need to rebuild mplayer (or get a newer version from whereever you got it from)03:55
dbzdeathbob2: there is no package for 5 afaik03:55
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enycbren: most users, can "/sbin/lspci"03:55
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bob2dbzdeath: there is, just not for the i386 on amd6403:55
dbzdeathbob2: yeah thats what i meant03:55
osfameronah, it's not called "gvim" but vim-gtk or vim-perl...03:55
mcrandellonotnilC:is the windows on a different partition on the same computer or is this another machine?03:55
bob2occy: disk fuckage03:55
reiki_workfluffybunny_: I had the same problem with a flash drive that was formatted on a windows box and then used in Ubuntu. Is it being detected as /dev/sda1 ?03:55
occybob2, really?03:55
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notnilCdifferent partition same computer03:55
mcrandellohrmm03:55
bob2occy: I'd very stronlyg suspect it03:56
occybob2, I was getting some hard drive errors last night :(03:56
bob2occy: look at the output of 'dmesg'03:56
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jc-dentonis there a bts in ubuntu03:56
fluffybunny_reiki_work: how do I check that? i mount it as "mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" which works fine, so I think /dev/sda1 is being detected?03:56
jc-dentoncan i use reportbug?03:56
occyinit_special_inode: bogus i_mode (2767)03:56
fluffybunny_reiki_work: this was a disk last used on windows (similar problem last night with a disk used on a Mac)03:56
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setiteanyone have a good sources.list for amd6403:57
bob2jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com. no03:57
occybob2, http://pastebin.com/36249103:57
bob2setite: the one that comes with it is fine03:57
reiki_workfluffybunny_: that sounds right ... I had to make an entry in my /etc/fstab file to get mine to automount AND I reformatted it on the ubuntu box. So first get your needed file off the flash drive and THEN I formatted using mkdosfs /dev/sda1 so that it could also be read on windows machines03:58
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u-sun--hi all, any one here have a dual boot of ubuntu on mac?03:58
fluffybunny_reiki_work: can't format it - its not my disk :)03:58
jc-dentonbob2: so how do i report an ubuntu related bug?03:58
u-sun--g4 powerbook?03:58
mcrandellonotnilC, can you ping any outside internet sites? ("ping http://google.com" from a console)03:58
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u-sun--i tried to do this ... and i hope that i would not wipe my current HD03:58
notnilCim not sure03:58
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jdermerhas anyone been able to get mprime running on ubuntu03:58
jdermeri get03:58
notnilCi'll give it a try03:58
jdermer./mprime: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by ./mprime)03:59
reiki_workfluffybunny_: if you JUST type    mount   i a terminal window ... what does it tell you about the file system on /dev/sda1 ?03:59
thenukejc-denton: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/bugs03:59
bob2jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com03:59
jc-dentonlol03:59
jc-dentonthx03:59
bob2u-sun--: lots of pepole do, just ask your question03:59
u-sun--aska  question?03:59
jc-dentonhumm03:59
bob2occy: your disk is unhappy03:59
u-sun--ok, i asked on this list03:59
jc-dentonif i remove reportbug03:59
jc-dentonubuntu-standard will be removed too03:59
u-sun--how do i install ubuntu without erasing my current HD03:59
jc-dentonare u sure it cannot be used?03:59
occybob2, recommendation, contact my laptop manufactuerer and get another disk?04:00
fluffybunny_reiki_work: um... there is nothing about dev/sda1 ...04:00
reiki_workfluffybunny_: you MIGHT need to type    sudo mount    ... to see all entries04:00
u-sun--and to do a dual boot on G4 powerbok04:00
bob2jdermer: that version of mrprime is not for your system04:00
fluffybunny_reiki_work: was already in a root terminal - no sda1 in mount04:00
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mcrandellou-sun--, You'll need some kind of partition resizing program or a second hard disk04:00
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bob2jc-denton: yes04:00
reiki_workfluffybunny_:  well that makes me believe it's no longer mounted if mount isn't seeing it04:00
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jdermerits the only version there is i think lol04:01
bob2u-sun--: you free some space then run the ubuntu installer04:01
u-sun--okk04:01
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bob2jdermer: then you can't run it, sorry04:01
fluffybunny_reiki_work: hang on - just checking if amd has been disable04:01
u-sun--3 gigs is enough?04:01
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bob2occy: did you enable dma or anything like that?04:01
mcrandellou-sun--, wait you have a pppowerbook?04:01
bob2occy: or run an odd kernel?04:01
u-sun--bob2, have you tried it on external HD?04:01
u-sun--with firewire04:01
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u-sun--i will use my external HD04:01
bob2u-sun--: can openfirmware boot firewire disks?04:01
occybob2, well... I did just do this recently:   http://occy.net/node/14204:01
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jdermerbob2, why ?04:02
reiki_workfluffybunny_: try mounting it again using mount -t vfat uid=<yourusername> /dev/sda1 /media/usb04:02
jdermerbob2, what does it mean04:02
u-sun--bob2, yes it can04:02
reiki_workI think that syntax is correct... someone look please04:02
occybob2, crimsun helped walk me through removing my kernel stuff and re-installing.04:02
mcrandelloheh I never knew there was a ppc port04:02
bob2jdermer: it means it was compiled for a much newer system than hoary04:02
bob2jdermer: and hoary came out only 5 months ago, so whoever did it was an idiot04:03
occybob2, I was trying to clean out all the stuff from when I had followed this to get my wireless card into monitor mode:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/541404:03
mcrandelloalso if you have a cd/dvd burner I alwaus reccomend making a backup of any data you mind losing before installing anything04:03
bob2occy: reinstalling won't cause issues04:03
bob2er, the kernel04:03
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occybob2, that's an exact paper trail of all I've done.04:04
mcrandelloso does anyone have the proper address to plug in to make merillat work with hoary?mine keeps saying it can't find the packages.gz04:04
occyeverything was working fine before that.04:04
occy:/04:04
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occybah04:04
occywhy I mess with things when they are working04:04
bob2mcrandello: that's because he doesn't have a hoary repository at all04:04
mcrandellooh :(04:05
reiki_workoccy: cause you're adventurous and Breezy will be out soon so you can wipe it all out and start over fresh! :)04:05
bob2occy: perhaps you had random memory corruption and a reboot will fix it04:05
fluffybunny_reiki_work: aside from a missing comma, that worked, and now I can see my long file names nicely :)04:05
occybob2, hmmm   I can try that... :/  I'm thinking I might still have some of the ipw2200 (updated) drivers in there.04:05
dabaRmy printer is not being autodetected any more, it used to be. Any quick hints?04:05
occyreiki_work, heh04:05
bob2it's technically possible for a buggy driver to cause that error04:06
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: ok... cool... did you check your fstab file to see if there's an entry to automount that?04:06
bob2but in practice very unlikely, I'd think04:06
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occybob2, I'm sure something is wacky.  The only thing I can think of is to try and back-up and re-install.04:06
occyI've got a fairly recent backup.04:06
mcrandellois there anything equivalent that weill let me get the mplayer codecs and all that other junk?04:06
fluffybunny_\me blushes... uhm, reiki_work, how do I do that?04:06
occy(from a week ago)04:06
occyof my main files at least04:06
bob2mcrandello: which of those aren't in multiverse?04:07
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bob2obviously aside from w32codecs04:07
occybob2, as always, thanks for your help bud.04:07
bob2occy: just areboot might be enough04:07
bob2np04:07
occybbiab04:07
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mcrandellowell, that's what I was most concerned with. I seem to remember getting a whole bunch of stuff with mp3 support enabled and I thought it was from there04:08
fluffybunny_reiki_work: is ok - i got fstab open in gedit04:08
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reiki_workfluffybunny_:  I believe it's  /etc/fstab  should be a line telling it to mount  vfat  /dev/dsa1 as /media/usb  noauto,user (no space between "noauto" and "user"  0  0  ... PLEASE check this against your current file as I may not quite have it all in here... I'm not at my Ubuntu box.04:08
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: look at the way that file is and I'm sure you can get this right04:09
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reiki_workI didn't get an answer on this the other night... maybe someone here can help... is there a way to reread fstab after you've made changes? I ended up rebooting and don't know if that's necessary or not04:11
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mcrandellothere's the source command built into bash but it might not work with fstab and you'd need to be logged in as root anyway reiki_work04:12
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mdkehi all04:12
xTinareiki_work: depends on the type of changes. if you've just added partitions to be mounted, mount -a might help04:12
mcrandelloor what xTina said ;)04:12
mdkewhat is ~/.local/share/applications all about? can i remove it?04:12
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xTinamdke: why would you want to?04:13
Tomcat_Hi xTina ;)04:13
xTinaTomcat_: hey :)04:13
reiki_workxTina: I just added a mount for usb flash drives... and rebooted to get it working04:13
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reiki_workso mount -a will check fstab to see what to do?04:13
mcrandelloyes04:14
mdkexTina, well one of the entries has been annoying me for a while, and I just wondered what the point of the directory as a whole is04:14
reiki_workcool04:14
xTinareiki_work: mount -a will mount everything that's declared in there04:14
reiki_workxTina: perfect... thanks04:14
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: how's it coming?04:14
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: some gentoo guy sitting next to me told me not to mess with my fstab... he said that won't provide automounting?04:15
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Tomcat_fluffybunny_: Automounting is done somewhere else, right.04:15
reiki_workfluffybunny_: he's wrong...  I just did this night before last04:15
ambrose_wanna chat?04:16
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: and mine works04:16
tmullehi04:16
tmulleanyone runny hoary or breezy on a dual athlon 1800+ MP with the s2460 chipset?04:16
fluffybunny_Tomcat_: reiki_work: wrong, right? who's right? essentially, what I want to be able to do is plug in a usb drive and have a window pop up with the files, ala WinXP style04:16
tmullerunning04:16
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Tomcat_fluffybunny_: That should work out of the box in Ubuntu... if not you might have broken it. :) But it certainly doesn't work using fstab.04:17
reiki_workfluffybunny_: what I'm telling you to do is what *I* was instructed to do here on this channel for all to see and believe me it works now. And before it was doing exactly what happened to you... mount once, then problems04:17
dazvidwine is giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2154 , where is that reg key stored?04:17
sanketmedhiubotu, gimp04:18
ubotufrom memory, gimp is at http://www.gimp.org04:18
fluffybunny_Tomcat_: i've broken a lot of things... :( it did used to work... i messed around with sysvconfig and changed some stuff, now I have HAL! errors and acpi errors on login , plus this thing04:18
Tomcat_fluffybunny_: You can always try what others are saying... nothing against trying. :o04:18
reiki_workfluffybunny_: mine didn't work "out of the box" either04:18
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: thanks, will try it now - will I have to reboot first?\04:18
reiki_workfluffybunny_:  try just running mount -a04:18
mdkeif hal isn't working that is likely to be the cause of your problems fluffybunny_04:18
reiki_workerrr..04:18
reiki_worktyping mount -a04:18
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Tomcat_dazvid: ~/.wine/*.reg04:19
tmullemy machine locks up during install when it tries to run HAL04:19
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dazvidTomcat_: there are 3 .reg files, none of them have the HKEY_CURRENT setting.. ;S04:19
fluffybunny_mdke: what is hal and how can I fix it?04:19
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reiki_workTomcat_: seriously... am I giving her bad info? It was what I was told to do and it worked. I don't want to be giving people bad information and I'm kinda new myself so please if I'm screwing this up ... I am not offended to be told so04:20
mdkefluffybunny_, i don't know much about it i'm afraid. I believe hal controls how your system reacts to new devices that are added to your system04:20
notnilChelp for a noob please .. i have finally somehow got something outta this ubuntu .. i can access the internet with xchat .. but nothing else04:20
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setite!dma04:20
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dave______hi... question... my system beeps on startup, just before the GUI kicks in... how do i get rid of this?04:20
Tomcat_dazvid: Make a backup of the file you are changing, then change any one of them... omit the CURRENT_CONFIG.04:21
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mdkefluffybunny_, but i can't give you any concrete help I'm afraid04:21
notnilCscrap that request for help ...04:21
notnilCthere seems to be only certain things i can't access on the net with firefox04:21
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notnilCanyone got ideas on why that it?04:22
notnilCis?04:22
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reiki_worknotnilC: might help if you define "certain things" you can't access04:22
xbaezhi i'm new in ubuntu and i want to upgrade my hoary installation to breezy04:22
notnilCmost websites04:22
osfameronheh04:22
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sipiornotnilC: maybe you have ecn turned on?04:23
notnilCecn?04:23
osfameronnotnilC: give 1 url, and exactly what happens when you try?04:23
xbaezi need to change the sources.list  and put breezy right ?04:23
dazvidTomcat_: again, the "CURRENT_CONFIG" isn't in any of the *.reg04:23
brennerenyc: still there? sorry it took so long, i need to get more RAM04:23
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: you all set? I have to get some quotes done. :) (I'm at work)04:23
sipiornotnilC: what is in the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp04:23
notnilCi type www.hotmail.com and it comes up saying "connection was refused"04:23
sipiorerr... /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn04:23
reiki_workBlueEagle: you alive?04:23
osfameronxbaez: I think the advice is still "If you don't know how to do it, don't do it" for breezy04:23
Tomcat_dazvid: As I said, omit the CURRENT_CONFIG, add the registry key whereever you want.04:24
osfameronxbaez: (cos it's not released yet)04:24
fluffybunny_reiki_work: hmm, either mount -a didn't work, or the line I added to fstab doesn't work... /dev/sda1/mnt/tempvfatnoauto,user  0  004:24
sipiornotnilC: different problem, then. can you ping the same sites?04:25
xbaezosfameron, oh! i see ... i want use php5 but when i search with the hoary sources, it not appear04:25
osfameroncan you open hotmail.com with Linux! ?04:25
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notnilCsipior, yes04:25
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osfameronxbaez: oh, I'm fairly sure php is in there somewhere04:25
sipiornotnilC: do you have a web proxy turned on?04:25
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notnilCi don't think so04:25
notnilCim pretty sure i dont04:26
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brennerenyc: ping04:26
sipiorhave a look in your browser config04:26
dazvidTomcat_: Sorry, i dont really understand what you are wanting me to do04:26
Tomcat_dazvid: I'm reading the wine docs right now, what I said is incorrect anyway.04:26
xbaezoscarh, really ? ok , i'm looking for it ... thanks :)04:26
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notnilCim using firefox .. where exactly am i looking??04:26
dazvidAh ok04:26
reiki_workfluffybunny_: ok... well... mine worked after a reboot, but I was told that mount -a would do what's in fstab. Hopefully I've given you the correct syntax, but if it matches up with the other similar lines in there it should work04:26
osfameronxbaez: oh, I appear to have php4 installed, not 504:26
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occybob2, I think you are right.  :(04:27
occymajor suckage04:27
fluffybunny_ok... i will reboot... what if the drive isn't in there when I boot? will it complain?04:27
sipiornotnilC: Edit->Preferences->General->Connection04:27
brennerwhile i'm waiting, has anyone heard of cpu usage constantly being at 50% in the CPU monitor, but system monitor and 'top' show CPU usage close to 0?04:27
enycbrenner: pong04:27
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Tomcat_reiki_work: I have no idea if you are giving wrong information... I only know really well about a few fields, and just from experience, my automount devices are not in fstab... :)04:27
enycbrenner: that was a LONG 5 minutes!04:27
qt2woah04:27
brennerenyc: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/215504:27
qt2TONS of ubuntu updates today? <.<;04:27
reiki_workfluffybunny_: I had that same question.... no... that's why the noauto is in there04:27
occybob2, I was able to get my personal files backed up... and synced with unison. So... I guess I could just nuke and re-install04:27
brennerenyc: i know, sorry...the boot processing kept stopping on me for some reason04:27
Tomcat_reiki_work: Usually, automount stuff is set in some other config file. But as I told fluffybunny_, trying out is nothing bad to do :o04:27
occy*sigh*04:27
xbaezosfameron, ah ok04:27
brenners/processing/process04:27
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jdermeris there azureus of ubuntu ?04:28
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enyc0000:00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4378 (rev 02)04:28
jdermerfor 804:28
notnilCok google now works .. but hotmail don't04:28
enycI don't recognize that modem/device  brenner04:28
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: before you reboot... can you paste your fstab file into the pastebin?04:28
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brennerenyc: so what should i do?04:28
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occyreiki_work, think breezy is stable enough to use now on a daily basis?04:28
brennerenyc: it's a compaq presario....maybe that's the problem. :-(04:28
qt2why are theer like... 50x updates at once today? <.<;04:29
reiki_workoccy: I really am no expert, but I won't install it myself till it's ready... BECAUSE I'm no expert :)04:29
brennerenyc: i also had a look a the device manager...pretty much everything is unknown...04:29
enycbren: I dont know what the device is... you MAY get some help pasting that line to  linmodems.org  mailing lists04:29
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occyreiki_work, hehe, nod.04:29
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osfameronxbaez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php5 looks useful04:29
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Tomcat_dazvid: Your error message is scattered all over the web in wine mailing lists and websites... I'm sorry, I guess I can't help you...04:29
notnilCnow sipior hotmail won't load .. and i can't get GAIM messenger to connect ....04:30
enycbren: its priobably not worth bothering, though ;-) -- just use a  COM (serial) port  external hardware modem...  or something04:30
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brennerenyc: *sigh* ...ok04:30
setitei cnat get dma to turn on04:30
dazvidNo probs, thanks for looking04:30
brennerenyc: thanks anyway04:30
enycthere are a lot of rubbish modems about!04:30
dazvidNo solutions in those mailing lists?04:30
sipiornotnilC: but you can ping hotmail?04:30
enyclinmodems.org has most details of them...04:30
setiteand i added amd74xxx to my /etc/modules like i had to last time04:30
notnilCyes04:30
setiteany other possibilities?04:30
fluffybunny_reiki_work: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/215604:30
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sipiornotnilC: try another browser?04:30
notnilCok .. ...04:30
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occyargh04:31
xbaezosfameron, thank you !04:31
occymy stupid site theme is fuxx0red04:31
Tomcat_dazvid: No idea... I really have to do some stuff, I can't read hundreds of websites for you... I'm pretty sure you can do that. :)04:31
dazvidlol04:31
dazvidYes I was just wondering if you came across one ;)04:32
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dazvidThanks anyways.04:32
reiki_workfluffybunny_: if you mount it as /mnt/temp it won't show up on your desktop as far as I know. I mounted mine as /media/usbdisk and I had to create the /media/usbdisk directory for this to work.04:32
Tomcat_dazvid: Nah, not on the first sight. But it's good to know many people have that problem... there is either a solution or there will soon be one.04:32
notnilCi can't get to another site to try a different browser04:32
fluffybunny_reiki_work: /mnt/data and /mnt/windows appear on my desktop?04:32
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: there MUST be another way to do this because teh automount system was dynamically creating and removing the mount point. The methos I just told you requires the mount point to be there apparently04:33
sipiornotnilC: not sure i follow you. the browser is on the local machine?04:33
masa22ojla folkk04:33
reiki_workfluffybunny_: ok... then looks fine04:33
notnilCyes04:33
qt2jdermer: they have Azureus in synaptic.04:33
sipiornotnilC: and it doesn't work either?04:33
notnilCim just using what came when i installed ubuntu04:34
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setitedamnit it wont turn on04:34
PuGzhey everyone!04:34
setitewhy is my dma being so stubborn04:34
PuGzi just installed and am running ubuntu breezy04:34
PuGzits nice04:34
PuGzi like it04:34
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sipiorsetite: is dma supported on the drive?04:34
setiteyes04:34
setitei had dma yesterday04:35
fluffybunny_reiki_work: I am going to look around on google to see if I can't fix the HAL error first --> apparently, hal controls the mounting of cdroms and other removable media (or so I understand), so maybe if I fix that, it will come back?04:35
setiteand i had to reinstall04:35
jdermerPuGz, welcome04:35
setitebecause breezy pissed me off04:35
PuGzit has a few bugs... but not too bad!04:35
setitenow i had to add amd74xxx to the /etc/modules last tiem.. and ive done that...04:35
PuGzusable (for a month... until official release)04:35
sipiornotnilC: is hotmail the only site you can't reach? maybe a certificate problem?04:35
notnilCnope04:35
reiki_workfluffybunny_: if you find anything I'd like to know cause mine was busted too..... well not my HAL... at least not that I know of.04:35
notnilCnow can't use google either04:35
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sipiornotnilC: all right, i'm officially baffled. maybe the problem is the underlying network?04:36
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notnilCoh crap04:36
harrytuttleoh, dma. can't enable it on /dev/hdc of my ibook g4. any other with apple hardware and the same problem?04:36
setiteoh i know what i did wrong04:36
setitei forgot to add ide-core04:36
fluffybunny_i don't suppose anyone here can help with HAL! errors? the ubuntu forums seem to be a bunch of people saying "me too" or "here is a hack that makes it work"... not encouraging04:36
setiteits amd74xxx and ide-core above ide-cd04:36
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PuGzthere is one bug which is really annoying me! its in evolution. I have my mail on my isp which i get through imap. My Inbox folder gets mail in it and also has subfolders for sent, drafts etc. Evolution recognises that Inbox exists and it has subfolders. I can read all mail in those subfolders... but the mail in Inbox is not readable (when i click on inbox... there is an empty pane on the right where the emails should be)04:37
setitebrb04:37
sipiornotnilC: do you have a firewall between you and the outside world?04:37
seliniumHi all, I am having probs burning an iso, it says that the cd is not balnk but it deffinately is, Just used kb3 and that worked but did not create the live cd just wrote the iso to the disc04:37
notnilCyes04:37
PuGzstrange thing is that if you right click and say properties, it recognises that it has 6 emails in it04:37
notnilCon the router04:37
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PuGzanyone else have this problem04:38
PuGz?04:38
sipiornotnilC: maybe outgoing http is blocked to certain sites04:38
sipiornotnilC: though it admittedly seems rather random04:38
notnilCworks with winxp04:38
qt2err, what's the quicket way to restart x without rebooting?04:38
Madeyeguys, I'm trying to run Standalone IE from Evolt with wine, but it's not working, any idea? shall I move the dll to somewhere?04:38
sipiornotnilC: hmm. sorry, without seeing the machine directly, i'm out of things to try04:38
qt2err, best even04:39
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notnilCbugger04:39
seliniumqt2: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace04:39
qt2selinium: right.... i've gotta reenable that... <.<;04:39
PuGzqt2: i second that04:39
fluffybunny_can anyone tell me what the default boot script options are - I messed around in sysvconfig, and thats when all my trouble started, and I dont' remember what I turned on and what I swicthed off....04:39
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qt2Madeye: it's best to manually install IE with wine.04:39
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qt2Madeye: hold on a moment, and i'l give you some proper instructions on how to do it.04:40
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Madeyeqt2,  i'm web developer, so I need to test sites with more than one version of IE, thats why I want to use standalone version04:40
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seliniumAny ideas why I cant write to cd from right click/write to disc?04:41
gnonthgolMadeye: I think its best not install IE at all, install Firefox04:41
seliniumFrom an iso04:41
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setitewoot dma back04:41
setitei was spelling the module wrong04:41
setiteits amd74xx.. not xxx04:41
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jurp5hello04:42
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setitehola compadre04:42
qt2Madeye: i see, well installing any version of IE is complicated right now, you might want to try using wine cvs and asking for help in #winehq04:42
seliniumhi setite04:42
PuGzis there an irc channel for evolution were I can ask about this bug i am having?04:42
jdermerubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?04:42
setitewhats up selinium04:42
jurp5is it save to change now to breezy or is it too buggy04:42
qt2anyways, brb, gotta reboot my window manager.04:42
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seliniumFor some reason I can't burn an ISO to disc anymore! It keeps saying to put a blank disc in, i know it is!04:43
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jdermeranyone?04:44
flhi there04:44
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jdermerubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?04:44
seliniumjdermer, give people a chance! Take a look at firestrater or smoothwall04:44
njanjdermer, it has netfilter and iptables; if you want something friendly to configure them with, try firestarter.04:45
flquestion - to recompile the kernel with another compiler - install the source package and run debian/rules ?04:45
seliniumjdermer, firestarter04:45
jdermerno i dont want 104:45
njanjdermer, or.. if you want something friendly to use iptables to configure netfilter, I should say.04:45
jdermerim wondering if ubuntu comes with 104:45
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jurp5does breezy works good for you?04:45
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jdermerbecause for some reason azureus wont detect its port as being open04:45
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jdermereven tho i have it forwarded in my router04:46
BockBilbohello04:46
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setitefirestarter is the iptable gui right?04:46
seliniumjdermer, if you haven't installed it then you have not got one!04:46
seliniumsetite: yep04:46
setitei need that04:46
BockBilboany of you has managed to get fglrx work in breezy? I managed to make it work on hoary.. but now i cant using breezy... anyone?04:46
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setiteand yes i know where to get it04:46
i0waubuntu does support windows games?04:47
BockBilboi0wa, no. do u can try cedega on ubuntu04:48
BockBilboits not gpl though04:48
BockBilbowine might work for some crapy games04:48
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i0waoic04:48
PuGzBockBilbo: i am using fglrx in breezy04:48
i0waty04:48
PuGzBockBilbo: but glxgears is funny... its all a bit strange04:48
BockBilboPuGz, does the 3d acc work? which ati card?04:49
occyI've looked through the du man pages, and I can't see how to sort the output of du from biggest size to smallest04:49
GuBA_i have a problem with my mouse wireless ... the receptor is a USB ... please helpme04:49
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PuGzBockBilbo: i dont think 3d is working... ati firegl mobility t204:49
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PuGzBockBilbo: when i try to run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".04:50
PuGzX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).04:50
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GuBA_my PC is a HP Pavilion w5030 ...04:50
PuGz(second line only happens once killed)04:50
BockBilboPuGz, :S sucks so... PuGz if you do fglrxinfo, does it say fglrx ati driver?04:50
BockBilboor mesa something?04:50
setitewhere does firestarter go04:50
guille__Hi, I vahe a problem with rear chanel of mi SB live 5.1. I can't make it sound (I'm spanish sorry becouse of my english)04:50
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PuGzBockBilbo: i dont even have fglrxinfo!04:51
Hackmohey all04:51
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PuGzBockBilbo: but i should i think... the packages are installed!04:51
BockBilboPuGz, sudo fglrxinfo04:51
GuBA_somebody with mouse wireless ???04:51
Hackmoanyone know of a tools that will tell you the distance between your laptop and an access point?04:51
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PuGzBockBilbo: oops! not in path!04:51
PuGzhehe04:51
BockBilboits on /us/X11R6/bin/, which is just on root's path and not o normal users04:51
BockBilbo;)04:51
BockBilboyeah04:51
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PuGzBockBilbo: mesa04:51
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BockBilboPuGz, so u have the same prob as me04:52
PuGzBockBilbo: and that same error line as before04:52
PuGzBockBilbo: yep!04:52
PuGzBockBilbo: bug report!04:52
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BockBilbo... i remember that in hoary it used to show up fglrx somthing insteado f mesa..04:52
BockBilbono.. i dont think its a bug04:52
BockBilboits a problem related with configuration04:53
PuGzyeah... hoary worked04:53
PuGzwhy isnt it a bug?04:53
occyodd04:53
occyI can't seem to do ctrl+alt+F104:53
occyto get at console.04:53
occyfrom the login screen at GDM04:53
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PuGzBockBilbo: well... it really IS a bug... if we installed fglrx stuff... then it should work automatically... so not a bug with program... but with design?04:53
BockBilbosee.. i think the driver has been upgraded, i guess it has different config options04:53
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auTONYmousI can't get gnomebaker to erase a DVD+RW04:53
PuGzBockBilbo: i havent yet run fglrxconfig04:54
BockBilboPuGz, have you taken a look to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:54
PuGzBockBilbo: maybe thats it04:54
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BockBilboPuGz, yes04:54
BockBilbotry it out04:54
PuGzBockBilbo: i merely changed ati to fglrx04:54
PuGzBockBilbo: ok04:54
PuGzgimme a min04:54
BockBilboPuGz, i did the same thing04:54
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mchammerhello could someone tell me howto move the open terminal entry on the top of the context menu?04:54
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netstarAnyone running ubuntu on their mac?04:54
mchammerin breezy04:54
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bob2netstar: lots of people do04:55
bob2it's easier if you just ask your question04:55
BockBilbobob2, got a usplash question...04:55
BockBilbomay i go ahead?04:55
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bob2as above04:55
setitebest method is to just ask away... and pray for a pickup04:55
BockBilboxD04:55
markuma1why i can t install firefox under breezy?04:55
setitebut dont pester04:55
bob2asking to ask is more annoying than almost any question could be04:55
bob2markuma1: it was installable an hour ago04:56
BockBilbosorry bob2 i just didnt want to bother :S04:56
bob2unless you have some el dodgo backport installed04:56
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BockBilbobob2, as i told you the last day, ive dist-upgraded to breezy from hoary, and cant make usplash work at boot04:56
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occyman, you guys getting all the lame sexchat bot messages?04:56
BockBilboive tried dpkg-reconfigure for the runnig kernel and usplash... but nothing happens04:57
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markuma1bob2, i have ubuntu breezy installed without gnome because of lineakd. so i installed only xfce. but there it is impossible to install firefox04:57
reterwhat is that website where you can post large text04:57
PuGzBockBilbo: done an fglrxconfig and restarted X... still same problem04:57
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BockBilboPuGz, just as it happens to me... :S sucks04:57
bob2reter: pastebin.ca or #flood04:57
bob2BockBilbo: what does 'uname -r' print?04:57
BockBilbobob2, 2.6.12-8-68604:58
bob2markuma1: "impossible"?  /etc/apt/sources.list and error from apt to #flood04:58
occybob2, just backing up my remaining files and I'm going to simply re-install.04:58
PuGzBockBilbo: just checked... Breezy uses 8.14.13 ati fglrx04:58
occytarred up ~  so I can have my configs saved.04:58
BockBilboyep.. i know.. PuGz i guess well have to figure out how to make it work..04:58
bob2occy: that won't help if the disk is broken, tho...04:59
occybob2, quick question, is there a way I can do:   linux vesa    at boot?04:59
BockBilboive tried using the installer from the official ati site... it might work for you.. didnt for me04:59
occybob2, I'm sure it's the funky driver misconfiguration.04:59
occybob2, I'm certainly hopeing that's it.04:59
bob2occy: I don't know what that option would is supposed to do04:59
BockBilbooccy, change the grub menu.lst04:59
bob2heh04:59
occyheh04:59
bob2BockBilbo: you're completely up to date with breezy?04:59
occyI was trying to avoid manually picking vesa as the card.05:00
BockBilbobob2, yes05:00
BockBilbojust downloaded the newest packages05:00
bob2occy: for X? I'd just pick it later.05:00
bob2BockBilbo: and what dpkg-reconfigure command are you running?05:00
occybob2, hey, my bios has a hd checking tool05:00
occymaybe I should run that.05:00
occyheh05:01
occyhere we go05:01
occythis'll take 62mins05:01
occyfun05:01
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BockBilbobob2, dpkg-reconfigure usplash && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-68605:01
bob2maybe dpkg-reconfigure -plow would work05:02
BockBilbowhat is -plow for?05:02
markumanbob2: here is the sources.list, what happend is i try to install (with aptitude search mozilla-firefox i found it too). http://paste.debian.net/189005:02
netstarfor preparing ground for planting.05:02
netstar*groan*05:03
markumanand i type mozilla and 2time tab to show what is installed with "mozilla"05:03
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bob2markuman: it's called firefox in breezy05:04
BockBilbobob2, done the dpkg-reconfigure -plow of both packages.. should i reboot to see if it worked? or do i have to do any modification to /boot/grub/menu.list05:04
BockBilbo?05:04
markumanbob2: oh f*cking damn thx05:04
reteri am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/2281505:04
BockBilbo*/boot/grub/menu.ls05:05
bob2BockBilbo: you don't get a config option at all?05:05
BockBilbowhat do you mean by a config option?05:06
BockBilboy/n option?05:06
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bob2the point of the dpkg-reconfigure call is to turn it on05:06
BockBilbobob2,  this is what i get : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/215705:06
reteri am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/2281505:06
BockBilboreter, please don repeat sentencies05:07
bob2BockBilbo: er, have you been getting that for the past few days you've been asking about this?05:07
BockBilbobob2, yes05:08
bob2reter: that's not an error05:08
bob2BockBilbo: did you read it?05:08
reterreter, well its not upgrading05:08
reterhehe05:08
reterbob2, its not upgrading05:08
bob2BockBilbo: specifically the "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..." bit05:08
BockBilbobob2, u talking about this Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...?05:08
bob2reter: hit q05:08
BockBilboyes, ive read it05:08
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bob2that seems like a pretty important avenue to explore05:08
BockBilbobut i read in the forum that its related to the grub splash image05:08
bob2where do splash images come from?05:09
bob2ok05:09
TrackilizerHey guys.. would anyone know why the version of Firefox i download with synaptic is so slow?05:09
reterwhat do i do next?05:09
TrackilizerI don't mean the browser itself.05:09
BockBilbobob2, am i wrong?05:09
bob2reter: read what it says?05:09
thenukeTrackilizer: so you mean what then :)05:09
TrackilizerI mean scrowling down the bookmarks.05:09
bob2BockBilbo: I don't know05:09
BockBilbo:S sucks..05:10
thenukeTrackilizer: ah ok. well I dont have a glue about that :)05:10
TrackilizerOr the time it takes to open a new Tab.05:10
thenukeTrackilizer: and you dont have very old hardware?05:10
BockBilbobob2, didnt you have this problem? or u just dont use usplash?05:10
TrackilizerIt takes over 2 secs to open a new tab.05:10
bob2I don't use breezy05:10
bob2BockBilbo: look in your menu.lst05:10
Trackilizer1.7GHz a gig of Ram05:10
bob2you should have a "splash" boot option05:10
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BockBilbobob2, i have it05:11
TrackilizerI uninstalled Firefox and installed the version from thier website but the plugins i installed didn't work.05:12
TrackilizerAnd i wanted to know, how do i install stuff into "usr/bin".05:12
TrackilizerI tried that.05:12
TrackilizerBut i don't have permision.05:12
reter #318176 - imagemagick in combination with transcode fails (amd64)05:12
reter   Merged with: 325651 32572005:12
retergrave bugs of gnome-system-tools (1.2.0-0ubuntu6 -> 1.4.0-0ubuntu1) <open>05:12
reter #309932 - boot-admin should not be in unstable05:12
retergrave bugs of gs-esp (7.07.1-9ubuntu3 -> 7.07.1-9ubuntu5) <open>05:12
reter #323087 - gs-esp - cups driver fails with ENOENT05:12
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retergrave bugs of aptitude (0.2.15.8-1ubuntu12 -> 0.2.15.9-3ubuntu4) <open>05:12
reter #321889 - aptitude uninstallable on experimental05:12
retergrave bugs of libpango1.0-0 (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>05:12
reter #321832 - Applications linked to libpango1.0-0 SIGSEGV05:12
retergrave bugs of libpango1.0-common (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>05:13
reter #325361 - libpango1.0-common: Postinstallation script dies because /etc/defoma/config/pango.conf has not been unpacked05:13
reterSummary:05:13
reter xserver-xorg(2 bugs), gthumb(1 bug), gaim(1 bug), libsqlite3-0(1 bug), xlibs(1 bug), gksu(3 bugs), postfix(1 bug), libdjvulibre15(1 bug), libopenal0(1 bug), bogofilter-bdb(1 bug), alsa-utils(1 bug), evolution(6 bugs), python-apt(1 bug), nautilus(1 bug), libmagick6(1 bug), xbase-clients(2 bugs), gnome-system-tools(1 bug), clamav(1 bug), eog(1 bug), gs-esp(2 bugs), w3m(1 bug), gedit(1 bug), bluez-utils(1 bug), aptitude(4 bugs), libpango105:13
reter.0-0(1 bug), synaptic(2 bugs), xscreensaver(1 bug), libpango1.0-common(1 bug), sound-juicer(1 bug), libruby1.8(1 bug), lvm2(1 bug), evince(2 bugs)05:13
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BockBilboreter dont pase that here05:13
reterwhat does this mean05:13
bob2reter: dude, stop it05:13
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reterargh05:13
bob2it means you installed apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs and don't know what they do05:13
reteri would like some help upgrading pls05:13
TrackilizerSo would anyone have an answer to my question?+05:13
bob2Trackilizer: don't install stuff to /usr/bin/05:13
BockBilboreter05:13
BockBilboreter, do this : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:14
TrackilizerI see.05:14
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bob2Trackilizer: put it in /usr/local/05:14
TrackilizerSo where should i install stuff?05:14
reteri did that BockBilbo05:14
bob2Trackilizer: or into your home directory05:14
bob2reter: why did you install apt-listbugs to begin with?05:14
TrackilizerAll stuff installed by synaptic are in there aswell.05:14
auTONYmoushow can I change the permissions so that cdrecord and gnomebaker work with my DVD drive?05:14
bob2reter: and just say yes to it again05:14
reterbecause someone told me to do it...they though i had bugs05:14
bob2auTONYmous: what does that have to do with permissions?05:14
bob2reter: then they're dumb05:14
BockBilbocheck your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment all non official ubuntu repositores05:14
bob2reter: and don't do things just because peopel tell you to05:15
bob2reter: now say yes to it and continue on05:15
reterso right now what do i do05:15
bob2and if you flood again you will be banned05:15
auTONYmousI can read the drive, but gnomebaker won't burn...looks like cdrecord may not be suid right...05:15
reteri have had said yes to it05:15
reterand i get the same05:15
auTONYmousand the drive has ro for all except root05:15
BockBilboanyone here uses breezy with the usplash working?05:16
bob2reter: then stop, get rid of it and carry on05:16
bob2BockBilbo: that's not useful either, it Just Works for nearly everyone else05:16
bob2BockBilbo: you really never did anything weird?05:16
retersigh bob205:16
bob2auTONYmous: run it under root05:16
reteryou are so arragant05:16
bob2reter: stop being so useless then05:16
reteri do not know what these messages are05:16
BockBilbobob2, i just want to know if in /boot/grub/menu.list they have usplash instead of splash in the kernel option05:16
reterall i want to do right now is upgrade to breezy05:16
bob2reter: sudo apt-get remove apt-listchanges apt-listbugs05:17
bob2reter: then be quiet and do what I've suggsted05:17
auTONYmousbob2: what, cdrecord?05:17
BockBilboreter dont upgrade to breezy05:17
Trackilizerbob2, i can install stuff into the folder you said without any problems?05:17
TrackilizerI won't have permision probs?05:17
bob2auTONYmous: yes, tell gnomebaker or whatever to run it with sudo05:17
bob2Trackilizer: not if you're the first user created on the system05:17
auTONYmousalright, now you have lost me05:17
reterwhy not BockBilbo ?05:17
BockBilboPuGz, u there?05:18
TrackilizerI am the only user on the system.05:18
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bob2Trackilizer: then you'll be fine05:18
bob2auTONYmous: just run the whole thing under sudo then05:18
BockBilboreter, because it still unstable. Wait one month until the stable release05:18
TrackilizerOk, i'll try that.05:18
bob2auTONYmous: sudo gnomebaker05:18
TrackilizerThank's05:18
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BockBilboreter, just upgrade if you really now what you are doing and know how to fix most problems you will encounter05:18
TrackilizerThe other thing i wanted to know was: how come the firefox plugins won't work if i install firefox myself?05:19
bob2that depends entirely on how you set it up05:19
bob2and is more a #firefox or whatever question, not a #ubuntu one05:19
TrackilizerThey only seem to work if firefox was installed with synaptic.05:19
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BockBilboTrackilizer, iguess its because you install firefox in other location than the one from the ubuntu package05:19
GoClickUsing apt is there a way I can list installed packages or better yet see what's installed that contains *apache*05:20
TrackilizerWell, that's why i was trying to install into usr/bin05:20
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bob2dpkg -l | grep "^ii.*apache"05:20
bob2just stay out of /usr/bin entirely05:21
TrackilizerI guess i'll just try some other browsers.05:21
bob2ubunt upackages go there, nothing you install manually should05:21
auTONYmousbob2: crashing. Looks like DVD+_RW-format is horked also...05:21
TrackilizerAnd hope they will work.05:21
GoClickthanks bob05:21
BockBilboTrackilizer, why dont u use firefox?05:21
bob2BockBilbo: did anyone reply to your post to the mailing list?05:22
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auTONYmousbob2: screw it...I'm going NeroLinux05:22
BockBilbobob2, i didnt send any mail to the mailing list05:22
thrice`auTONYmous, lol...05:22
bob2auTONYmous: ok...05:23
bob2BockBilbo: oh05:23
BockBilbobob2, let me check the latest emails in the list, maybe someone had the same prob05:23
draug_nguy/say guys, i think i seriousl05:23
BockBilbootherwise, ill send a message.. brb, going to gmail05:23
digitizeTrackilizer: with apt, just do apt-cache search apache05:24
digitizeit'll list all apache related pkgs and say if they're installed or not05:24
bob2no it doesn't05:24
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cheesieubotu tell cheesie about ndiswrapper05:24
digitizeoh yeah it doesn't.... hrmmm, i thought there was a cmd like that05:24
digitizeerrr, i'm thinking gentoo05:25
cheesieubotu tell cheesie about webcam05:25
cheesieubotu tell cheesie about remote05:25
bob2aptitude shows similar information05:25
bob2cheesie: you can talk to the bot in /msg, too05:25
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_sunzi_hi05:26
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BockBilbobob2, ive fount an email from 2 days ago that says this: "do dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version of kernel you're running>05:26
BockBilboso it'll rebuild the initrd image to include it".. just as we've done.. i guess it doesnt rebuild the initrd image05:26
BockBilbo(sorry for the flood.. my bad)05:26
HumpBackDoes the ubuntu livecd come with gcc+gdb+ddd ?05:27
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bob2HumpBack: no05:28
bob2yo ucan install it, tho05:28
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cheesiebob205:29
cheesiehow05:29
bob2how what?05:29
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HumpBackbob2: the idea was to use the livecd and no hard drive files05:29
auTONYmousNow, if only we could get Nero to make it using GTK...05:30
draug_nexit05:30
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auTONYmousgotta go...05:31
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bob2HumpBack: indeed, you can install into the image the livecd runs from05:31
bob2assuming you have sufficient ram05:31
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chaseanyone ken if theres any projects out to make built in card readers usable?05:31
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sigmorning05:32
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sigchase: my built in card reader for my laptop works fine05:32
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sigshouldn't have to do anything special at all.05:33
cheesiebob2 where can i get a good web authoring package05:34
setite!surroundsound05:34
ubotusetite: Syntax error in line 105:34
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markumanbob2, are you a part of ubuntu? you are always here and you are always answered?05:35
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PuGzBockBilbo: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1353805:36
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egglethi guys, does anyone have any experience trying to get ubuntu to work as a linux wifi router?05:36
fluffybunny_is upgrading to breezy eezy?05:37
fluffybunny_is it like a reinstall - will I lose programs etc that I have installed?05:37
mjrfluffybunny_, it is, you won't, but don't do it yet05:37
setiteno fluffybunny_05:37
mjrfluffybunny_, it's like installing security updates, only more so ;)05:37
setitefluffybunny_, its an upgrade of the packages that need it...05:37
fluffybunny_mjr: why?05:37
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setiteits not worht it yet imo05:37
mjrfluffybunny_, because breezy isn't released yet05:37
osfameronwill you get the benefits of improved hardware detection etc. if you upgrade?05:38
BockBilboPuGz, im talking a look to it05:38
setiteits sorta broken05:38
osfameronor would you need to do a clean install for that?05:38
fluffybunny_mjr: so its not stable?05:38
setitejkr05:38
mjrno, it is not05:38
fluffybunny_mjr: I'm just looking to fix my HAL! error...05:38
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PuGzBockBilbo: what do you mean?05:39
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cheesiehowd i remote into a ubuntu computer from another location, what software do i need05:39
nightswimssh05:39
BockBilboPuGz, that im reading the bugzilla page;)05:39
PuGzahhh05:40
setitehow do i get real 5.1 in kaffeinne05:40
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cheesiewhos the owner of this channel?05:41
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deFrysk!ops05:42
ubotuit has been said that ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth05:42
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fluffybunny_:( i can't see my cd-rom... i mean, its there in /media/cdrom, but its empty :( this is related to the hal problem, isn't it?05:44
deFryskfluffybunny_, you have a cd inserted ?05:45
fluffybunny_deFrysk: yes05:45
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: just curious... are you a member of the plugdev group on your machine?05:46
deFryskthen it must be some bug yes05:46
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: plugdev? whats that?05:46
fluffybunny_reiki_work: i'm a n00b to linux - switched from windows a few months ago05:46
reiki_workfluffybunny_: I've been googling all over the place about the flash drive and one thing that came up in a couple places is that the user has to be in the plugdev group. Not sure how that pertains to the cdrom problem05:47
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: I switched from xp to ubuntu about 3 and a half weeks ago05:47
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: hmmm... I've been googling and its seems that the hal error that pops up on boot/login is related (apparently hal controls removable storage devices, like cds and usb disks)05:48
reiki_workfluffybunny_: if you're having HAL issues, I would think that needs to be fixed before anything else and I really don't have the abilty to help you with that one05:48
fluffybunny_reiki_work: i'm feeling like I am going to have to reinstall, which really sucks, like windows sucks05:48
reiki_workhahah05:48
reiki_workindeed05:48
reiki_workfluffybunny_: what's the error and where do you see it?05:48
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: thanks - i figured as much, unfortunately, most of the stuff coming up in google is either (a) really hard core or (b) more people saying "hey, I have that problem too"05:49
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: its a dialog box that pops up, saying failed to initialise HAL!05:50
reiki_workfluffybunny_: in Gnome, teh automounter is gnome-volume-manager and it uses udev and hald and probably more... to handle automounting. I'm just not finding a lot of info on HOW it does this :)05:50
reiki_workhmmm...05:51
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black_NightmareI know its more of hardware question than ubuntu talk but...anyone know about various older video cards to help with a simple question?05:51
black_Nightmarehmm this channel is strangely too quiet now....always someone talking05:52
Dr_Williscare to get into a little mroe details black_Nightmare ?05:52
fluffybunny_reiki_work: the hal message comes up just before this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i201805:52
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: by the way, do you do reiki?05:53
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black_Nightmaredr_willis...you think that a 8mb vram card would be a good match with 300Amhz/128mb(soon to be 256mb maxxed)/2x-agp .. or 16mb cards probably could do without getting underused frequently?05:53
black_Nightmareit'll be a windows system anyhow..mainly for older games (mix of 2D and some 3D ones)05:53
PuGznite all05:53
Dr_Willisblack_Nightmare,  you are using some old cruddy 8mb video card? :P05:53
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black_NightmareI'm not really into today's games that much at all..just stick to the collection of older cd games I already have here (newest one would be Roller Coaster Tycoon I think)05:54
Dr_Willisyour question is still sort of vague... what other Options do you have? a 8 or 16 mb card? the kind of card may bne more of an issue then the ram05:55
eggletplease can someone help me get dhcpd up and running with my wifi card?05:55
fluffybunny_back later - rebooting...05:55
reiki_workfluffybunny_: yes, I am a Master/Teacher in Usui Shiki Ryoho Reiki05:55
black_Nightmarewell I was wondering about getting a card and it not getting underused most of the times (like trying put sata hds with an early PI system for a quick example)05:56
fluffybunny_reiki_work: cool - i did a few courses years ago (level 2), but I have fallen behind and forgotten how to do everything :|05:56
reiki_workfluffybunny_: ... this is maybe a bit odd... but have you tried starting your machine with an audio CD in teh cd drive?05:56
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reiki_workfluffybunny_: you never forget... it's like riding a bike :)05:57
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: not an audio cd - data cd... hang on, i will put one in when I reboot in a minute05:57
fluffybunny_reiki_work: i've forgotten all the symbols, and my am surrounded by disbelievers anyway :)05:57
black_Nightmareor know what nevermind I might just get the 8mb card tomorrow and see how it fares compared to the bit-older-than card I've been using right now05:57
reiki_workfluffybunny_: the symbols are only needed when you are beginning... to keep you focused. Once you feel teh flow you don't need them any more05:58
Dr_Willisblack_Nightmare,  where are you even Finding 8mb cards? :P  heck - i think ive seen new 128mb video cards for like $3005:58
black_Nightmarewillis...are these 128mb card fanless and yet run at less than 25C? I think not05:58
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black_Nightmareplus again..this motherboard is only 2x agp (thats 3.3V yeah)05:58
black_Nightmare:p05:59
fluffybunny_reiki_work: its a little odd, finding a reiki master on a linux channel --> usually, people who are into that kind of thing are completely anti-technology (I know, huge generalisation, but thats whats its been for the people i have met so far_05:59
Dr_Willismay want to track down a good old voodoo 3dfx card.  :)05:59
fluffybunny_reiki_work: i don't count myself, of course ;)05:59
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reiki_workheheh05:59
black_Nightmarehmm didn't think of that one...which voodoo series you thinking of?  or would any do05:59
Dr_Willis16 MB 3dfx Voodoo3 3000G 2X AGP Video Card    - $12 on pricewatch06:00
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black_Nightmarevoodoo306:00
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occybob2, hard drive pass the self-test just peachy.  So I'm guessing it is horked drivers.06:00
occy(Which is good news)06:00
happy_broccoliapt-get asks for the ubuntu cd. i want to download packages off the net. how06:00
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: rebooting now - back later06:01
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Dr_Willisor course my problems ive seen with many games - is that some of them require specific card features.06:01
fdrHello! After installing today's security updates (~50MB of x-related stuff) I noticed that, when I drag a window or an icon, I get black vertical lines instead of a cursor... is that a known problem? THANK YOU!06:01
occyfdr, this is with Hoary?06:01
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black_Nightmaredr_willis...well mine have none..but I do think one of them had a version history that specified a bug fix with certain TNT2 cards :p06:02
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black_Nightmareso I should be fine with just any previously-well-known cards06:02
happy_broccolii figured it out if anyone cares06:02
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MacaveliMCCan anyone help me figure out why Ubuntu does not recognize my cd-rom drive?06:03
WaernerHey guys, is there any command like the windows command 'ipconfig /renew' in Ubuntu?06:03
black_Nightmarethanks for your help anyhow dr_willis06:03
black_Nightmarebye now ;-)06:03
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fdryes it is with hoary06:03
WaernerAnd it is...? :)06:03
occyfdr, ok, I haven't seen the problem, but it's good to note.06:03
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fdrand I've just noticed that when I am running X and I switch to a console with C-A-F1 when I try to get back to x the screen is garbled06:04
Dr_Willishappy_broccoli,  you edited yoru apt.sources and commented out the cd at the start. :P06:04
BockBilbogotta go06:04
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BockBilbobye!06:04
fdr(this is the reason I left and re-joined the channel btw)06:04
happy_broccoliDr_Willis: i would have, but i did it through synaptic06:04
MacaveliMCCan anyone help me figure out why Ubuntu does not recognize my cd-rom drive?06:04
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fdroccy: am I better file a bugreport on bugzilla ?06:04
Dr_Willisfdr,  ive seen that issue with some cards and  X /console/Framebuffer driver conflict/issues06:04
d2dchathow do you run add commands to startup, say I wanted to mount my windows hd during startup so i dont have to everytime, how would i accomplish this?06:05
occyfdr, possibly, sorry, I don't really know. :(06:05
WaernerMacaveliMC: Doesn't Ubuntu recognize it at all?06:05
fdrDr_Willis: I'm using an old matrox mga g20006:05
Dr_Willisfdr,  egads.....06:05
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d2dchati know how to mount it, i just want to automate it on startup06:05
G|Patrickhi06:05
fdrDr_Willis: egads? what do you mean?06:05
G|Patrick!bot ati drivers06:06
ubotuG|Patrick: What?06:06
Dr_Willisfdr,  i think i had one of those... years and years ago. :P06:06
G|Patrick!uboto find ati driver faq06:06
ubotuI haven't a clue, G|Patrick06:06
fdrhaha :-)06:06
G|Patrick:(/06:06
G|Patrick!ati driver06:06
ubotuG|Patrick: What?06:06
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Benjamin_Lare ubuntu maintainers usually that arrogant ? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511106:06
Dr_WillisMatrox - had such a promiseing future.. and now.. ya rarely hear about them06:06
Dr_Willissadly06:06
G|Patrickcrap06:06
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Waernerd2dchat: add this line to /etc/fstab:06:06
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G|Patrickneed help to get amarok working within gnome environment06:07
G|Patrickapp loads but no sound06:07
Waernerd2dchat, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       006:07
Dr_Willis8MB Matrox Millennium G200 SGRAM AGP2x SGRAM G2+/MILA/8  ?06:07
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Waernerd2dchat, where /media/windows is where you want to mount it, and /dev/hda1 is the partition06:07
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d2dchatWaerner, hehe, those are the exact paths anyway;)06:08
fdrDr_Willis: it's either that, or a close relative :-)06:08
sorush20Guys I can't open my KDE menu it just deisappers.. can someone help..06:08
Waernerd2dchat, well, just add it then ;D06:08
Dr_Willisfdr,  heh $20 at pricewatch.com :P06:08
d2dchatcan i use gedit?06:08
Waernerd2dchat, yep, works fine :)06:08
sorush20I can't even type addresses into firefox..06:08
fdrDr_Willis: is this a nice way to say that ubuntu won't support my card? ;-)06:08
d2dchatawesome:)06:08
sorush20right click menu don't work06:09
d2dchatI do wish I knew VIM better though06:09
Waernerd2dchat, make a backup of the old fstab-file first if you want to06:09
Dr_Willisfdr,  it works fine however untill you switch to the console and back?06:09
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d2dchatits a bit daunting to learn that and ruby at the same time while wokring with clients06:09
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G|Patrickcrap... again06:09
Waernerhehe06:09
G|Patrickubuntu says opera is a wrecked application06:09
adjacentcan i set thunderbird to trust the security cert from my mail server even though its expired?06:09
Belutzbob2: are you there sir?06:09
WaernerI have a simple question to, as the noob I am...06:09
G|Patrickif i start synaptic it tries to delete it06:09
Dr_Willissorush20,  try making a new user - and see if stuff works for him. if so - you some how managed to get your kde configs messed up.06:09
adjacentor do i always have to click ok when it warns me?06:09
G|Patrickbut it worx06:09
G|Patricki am usning it06:09
G|Patrickwhat the hell is goin on?06:09
WaernerIs there any way to re-new the DHCP-settings/network connection, simply, a reset of it06:10
fdrDr_Willis: yes, with the exception that when dragging the cursor becomes a bunch of black vertical lines. when dragging ends, it gets back normal.06:10
sorush20Dr_Willis:  that is just not good enough.. I did nothing to mess things up.. I can't even load the kde menu06:10
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adjacentWaerner: dhclient ethX06:10
fdrDr_Willis: switching to/back from console completely garbles it. C-M-Backspace helps :-P06:10
Waerneradjacent, thanks alot =)06:10
vanbergehas anybody seen recent ubuntu updates cause problems with nvidia drivers??06:10
Dr_Willisfdr,  its more of an X issue i am guessing then ubuntu.. there proberly a few X config tweaks youi can do for that card to fix that Cursor issue.06:11
adjacentWaerner: of better, ifconfig ethX down;ifconfig ethX up;dhclient ethX06:11
vanbergeX wont even start after my recent updates06:11
fdrDr_Willis: strange thing is that it's worked until this morning06:11
Dr_Willissorush20,  'not good enough' means you aint even going to try?06:11
Waerneradjacent, thanks again  =))06:11
Dr_Willisfdr,  Hmm.. you useing the framebuffer on the console ?06:11
fdrDr_Willis: I don't know... how do I check that?06:11
sorush20Dr_Willis: not good enough means I casn't access anything...06:11
Dr_Willissorush20,  try the console?06:12
Dr_Willisfdr,  whast ubuntu version you using anyway?06:12
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sorush20Dr_Willis: that is just it I can't run the console because it is in the KDE menu that dosen't load06:12
fdrDr_Willis, 5.0406:12
G|Patrickhelllooo06:12
G|Patrick:(06:12
G|Patrickam i ignored :(06:12
Dr_Willissorush20,  try 'alt-ctrl-f1'06:13
FaeWolfecan someone help me?       I can't update anything using synaptic, update manager or terminal    I get different errors on each on06:13
WaernerFaeWolfe, can post some of them?06:13
FaeWolfeWaerner, one of the messages when I try to use synaptic is E: is not locked?06:14
d2dchatWaerner, fstab-backup :)06:14
sorush20Dr_Willis: is there anyway I can return the KDE to its normal state as a default...06:14
Waernerd2dchat? :o06:14
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vanbergeif anybody could help me....  my nvidia drive all the sudden doesnt load... X fails to start.  This after doing some of the most recent ubuntu updates.  Switching to original xorg.conf fixed, but now not using nvidia driver.  Thanks in advance!  :-)06:15
vanberge*driver*06:15
ompaulFaeWolfe, seems like you have done something to root - do this in a terminal - sudo apt-get update06:15
Dr_Willissorush20,  go to the console.. delete/rename/move the  users .kdeXX   directories    to somthing like .kde_old and restart X/KDE06:15
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WaernerFaeWolfe, nothing like "Unable to lock bla bla bla"?06:15
estershi everyone06:15
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d2dchatWaerner, You said fstab-file, i made it fstab-backup;)06:16
FaeWolfeWaerner, no..it gave me the message E: is not locked06:16
FaeWolfeompaul, I do that and get this message   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:16
Waernerd2dchat, yeah, but I meant that you just should make a backup of the file fstab, call it whatever you want :P06:16
FaeWolfewhen I run dpkg -configure, I get other errors06:16
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Dr_Willisyou would need to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'06:17
WaernerFaeWolfe, okay, I think it's bigger than my skills :-/06:17
linuxboyhow do I change the colors that ls use ?06:17
FaeWolfeDr_Willis, that's what I did06:17
Waernerhaven't run it as root/sudo?06:17
ompaulFaeWolfe, did you do the -a?06:17
Dr_Willisbut i thouight -a was auto-fix.06:17
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d2dchatWaerner, hehe:)06:17
Waernerd2dchat, let's see if it works after your next reboot ;)06:18
freedomjazzdanceim having a problem, both computers on the router have the same ip06:18
synicanyone running rhythmbox on breezy?  I can't get it to play mp3s06:18
FaeWolfeompaul, yes I did06:18
d2dchathaha, (scared)06:18
d2dchatlol jk06:18
freedomjazzdancelinuxboy, man ls06:18
NeoFaxAnyone now have a problem with the recent kdebase upgrade in breezy?06:19
ompaulfreedomjazzdance, that has to do with the router having a bad day - it is not giving out more ip's shut one of the machines down and use the other to talk to the router and reconfigure it06:19
linuxboyfreedomjazzdance: thats tells you how to *enable* colors, not change06:19
estersi have a problem with my HDD06:19
esterscan anyone help06:19
estersplease priv06:19
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estersit's about partitions06:19
NeoFaxI get libkdeinit_kfmclient.so is not a valid ELF file. Invalid beginning magic.06:19
Smoking_n00bI have attached an extra HDD i want to use as storage. in system/disks menu i see it as HDC. how do i enable access to it?06:19
FaeWolfeand this is what I get when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a06:19
FaeWolfedpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 4923 package `libgnomeui-0':06:19
FaeWolfe `Depends' field, reference to `liborbit2': version contains ` '06:19
Dr_Willisesters,  you may want to give a little summery here.06:19
ompaulFaeWolfe, just for laughs put /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:19
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FaeWolfeompaul. what is that?06:21
freedomjazzdancelinuxboy, also at the end of the man page it says for complete manual "info coreutils ls"06:21
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freedomjazzdanceompaul, well locally the ips are different06:22
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FaeWolfeompaul.........done06:23
freedomjazzdanceompaul, but i want to be able to at least forward :80, so people aren't getting my router06:23
evianhi06:23
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WaernerIm outta here :)06:24
evianyesterday my screen was going at 75Hz, but today it is at 60Hz and giving me a headache. For some reason there is no option >60Hz in the resolution tool anymore06:24
ompaulfreedomjazzdance, I responded to your first message, what you describe is normal06:24
ompaulFaeWolfe, will look now06:25
evianI need to fix this fast before my head explodes06:25
eviando I need to edit some X files?06:25
FaeWolfeompaul        ok06:25
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ompaulevian, even if I was in a position to deal with you demanding from volunteers does you no favours06:26
estersem06:26
estersguys06:26
estersi cannot access my second partition06:27
evianompaul: you are mistaken to assume I was demanding anything06:27
esterscfdisk says fatal error06:27
ompauldoh!06:27
estersin the second partition i have Windows XP SP206:27
ompaulhave to go for a min :) or 2006:27
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evianompaul: good!06:27
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evianmake it 2006:27
FaeWolfeompaul............                what am I looking at?06:28
FaeWolfeor for?06:28
GundjahHi06:28
GundjahCan I redirect a bash command output to both file and screen?06:28
freedomjazzdanceompaul, but how do i fix it?06:28
WaernerBack with a new question ;)           3d acceleration, I THINK I have a working fglrx-config, but is there anyway to test it, or perhaps do some configuration?06:28
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ThreeDayMonkGundjah: not sure if bash has a built-in way (don't use it) but you can use tee06:29
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GundjahThreeDay... can you give me a quick xample=06:30
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ThreeDayMonkGundjah: somecommand | tee foo.txt06:30
ThreeDayMonkyou'll get the output of somecommand in foo.txt and on the console06:31
GundjahJust what I want :-) Tnx wo/man.06:31
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freedomjazzdanceompual, this is not the problem, it doesn't matter if both machines are on or not... if you typein the ip it will always give you the router] 06:32
larsrohdinhow can I list images based on size? pixelsize that is... Is there a command or program that can do that?06:32
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estersthanks for the help guys :(06:33
evianyour welcome :)06:33
ThreeDayMonklarsrohdin: in the console?06:33
GundjahNext one: How can I get WINE runnign on Ubuntu? apt-get don't give me a working system, keeps complaining about 16bit dlls06:33
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esters?06:33
larsrohdinThreeDayMonk, for example.... but it could  be a gui-program to...06:33
esterswtf06:33
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esterscommon can anyone help06:33
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estersme06:34
ThreeDayMonklarsrohdin: identify (from imagemagick) can give you the dimensions; you can hack something up with sed and sort, I imagine06:34
Gundjahester: what was yours?06:34
estersthe problem06:34
Dr_Willisesters,  what is the problem.. dont msg people.06:34
estersis with the HDD06:34
larsrohdinThreeDayMonk, ok ill look it up, thanks06:34
ompaulback06:34
Gundjahesters, state the problem pls06:35
esterseem06:35
ompaulFaeWolfe, tell me this what tool was used to get your sources file it is all over the place06:35
estersin the first partition i hava windows XP06:35
estersfile system is NTFS06:35
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estersin the second this one is ext306:35
estersbut i can't access the firs partition06:35
mushtaqhi is there a website to download qemu images i mean images for windowszzz06:36
estersfirst*06:36
mushtaqwhich have windows already installed ?06:36
fdrDr_Willis: thank you for your help with the X issue, I've just filed a bug report06:36
estersyes06:36
Gundjahesters: from within Ubuntu, or doesn't it boot?06:36
TrackilizerIs there an app i can use to rip to .mp3 and not ogg?06:36
estersno no06:36
Dr_Willisfdr,  lol - good luck on seeing it ever fixed. :P06:36
estersGundjah, the problem is06:36
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GNUbielechristel@freenode/staff/christel is a corrupt staff member. she sets modes on the staff social channel after some kids request it. just for the matter of personal motivated reasons. do you all support such a network?06:36
TrackilizerI want to use the files i download on my mp3 player.06:36
Gundjahest - no no what???06:36
Dr_WillisTrackilizer,  grip can do either. dependong on the config you set up.06:36
estersthat i can't access the first partiton06:36
fdrDr_Willis:  .... does not sound like a good thing06:36
TrackilizerI see.06:36
esterscfdisk says error06:36
anybodyesters when you sudo cfdisk /dev/hd* it doesnt work?06:37
mushtaqis there any one using qemu here ?06:37
TrackilizerI'll try that a little later.06:37
TrackilizerThanks.06:37
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FaeWolfeompaul....I was getting assistance from someone the other night to install java06:37
estersanybody, i will try it now06:37
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anybodyesters, sudo fdisk -l to make sure you have correct hd lable;06:37
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Dr_Willisfdr,  ive seen that issue with a dozen fifferent cards/setups.. not sure what the deal is.  i think its some sort of memory getting used by both.. normally using the default 'console' not framebuiffer enabled console fix;s it for me.06:37
anybodylabel06:37
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ompaulFaeWolfe, and did you get java installed?06:38
fdrDr_Willis: how do I set the console/fb thing?06:38
FaeWolfeompaul, it was installed, but still has errors06:38
Dr_Willisfdr,  it SHOULD be using the default console. :P you just get a normal old console screen at boot right? no tux logo/ect.06:38
kranebittHello everyone, I tried to get a DVD to work der ubuntu but totem refused, saying that I needed an extra codec, something like libdvdcss but I wouldn't know where to get it and how to install it06:38
slibshi!, i'd like to make so, that my another ubuntumachine is connected to straight to internet, and also connected to my local network, im going to make this with two network-cards, but is that possible, what do i have to do that it won't try to connect to the internet through my local network?06:38
mushtaqanyone using qemu ?06:38
Dr_Willisfdr,  so im not sure what else to try.06:38
leopardWas mplayer removed? I don't see it doing apt-search and I'm pretty sure I enabled everything in sources.list.06:39
Dr_Willismushtaq,  the legality of premade-windows hd images for that would be in question.06:39
fdrDr_Willis : no, no psychopatic penguins at boot-time (if you've watched Madagascar...)06:39
evianslibs: yes that is possible06:39
evianslibs: probably best to check out a networking book06:40
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Dr_Willisfdr,  could try some live cd's that use the framebuffer device.. perhaps using it would fix your problem. :(06:40
puffAfternoon.06:40
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estershmm06:40
estershow can i access partitons with filesystem NTFS?06:41
evianslibs: but you might just plug in the cards and see if it works06:41
Dr_Willis!ntfs06:41
esters?06:41
ompaulFaeWolfe, at the end of it all how did you install java? by downloading sun stuff by using a .deb or something else?06:41
Dr_Willisesters,  type '!ntfs' here06:41
esters!ntfs06:41
esters:D06:41
fdrDr_Willis: that wouldn't be a solution... I want to run ubuntu, not some livecd. :-)   And it worked fine till yesterday...06:41
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Dr_Willisfdr,  thats whats odd.. that it used to work...06:42
anybodyesters, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:42
mushtaqyes but still many things on the internet like going on in bittorent ;)06:42
Gundjah!ntfs06:42
Dr_Willisfdr,  its a test.. but your 'used to work' statement - imples that somthign has changed recently06:42
slibsevian: i tried that, but it works "randomly" so, it connects right, but if i try to get files, it tryes to get them trough wrong way, so i won't get them06:42
mushtaqDr_Willis, yes but still many things on the internet like going on in bittorent ;)06:42
fdrDr_Willis: yep, untill this morning's security updates...06:42
estersanybody, thnx06:43
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slibsi was just thinking that is there some program to tell my machine that i wan't to do so06:43
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Dr_Willisfdr,  time to check the wiki's and message boards - :()06:43
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fdrDr_Willis: brb -- phone06:44
evianslibs: ok I'm not sure if there is a graphical program for that06:44
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slibsevian: how bout non-graphical one?, do you know any of them?06:44
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evianslibs: try: man route06:45
slibsthanks06:45
puffSo, I'm having some odd messages on startup, and my wireless firmware fails to load.  Here's my dmesg:06:45
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puffhttp://pastebin.com/36264906:45
evianand ifconfig06:45
eviannetstat too06:46
GundjahDearest gurus... repeating the question...06:46
GundjahIs there a way to get WINE runnign on Ubuntu?06:46
Aragorn_Guardianhi all06:46
GundjahDoesn't seem to work with apt-get installation06:46
cycloneI updated from Ubuntu-Hoary to Ubuntu-Breezy with the new Gnome WM. Now I have a Red Back with X. So now I have a dark RED that is bleeding through everything. Can someone guide me to some sort of doc that describes how to fix this?06:46
Aragorn_Guardiani am having problems with crontab...anyone could help?06:46
cycloneI've tried many different xorg.confs06:47
cycloneall with the same resulrt06:47
cyclone-r06:47
Aragorn_Guardianit simply dont works for a user06:47
Aragorn_Guardianthat has bash...06:47
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ThreeDayMonkAragorn_Guardian: "dont works" (aside from the atrocious grammar :-) isn't awfully descriptive.  In what way doesn't it work?  My first guess would be a path problem.06:54
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kranebitt2Hello, I was trying to get a DVD to work under Totem but it told me that I needed the library libdvdcss or so. Where can I get it and how do I install it?06:55
infinitohas anybody done the transition hoary->breezy with dist-upgrade?06:55
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setitehow do i check my java version06:55
Aragorn_GuardianThreeDayMonk, thanks...but all paths are ok...gonna test again....06:56
Aragorn_GuardianThreeDayMonk, what defines that a user must have crontab? cron.allow?06:56
Aragorn_Guardianmy distro is fedora, sorry question this, that, cause ubuntu works perfectly06:57
erUSULsetite java -showversion?06:57
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G|Patrickre06:57
G|Patrickone question:06:57
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G|Patrickcan i delete gcc3.406:57
G|Patrickbreezy has gcc4.006:57
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enycG!P err.. in breezy, you dont need gcc-3.4 package, usually06:57
enycG!P except for compiling some stuff that needs gcc-3.4, if you compile stuff yourself etc.06:58
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G|Patricki am not a developer06:58
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G|Patrickbest thing i can do is writing a website06:59
nfinitep1astikhello everyone06:59
ThreeDayMonkAragorn_Guardian: no idea about that - I've never heard of any such restriction.06:59
G|Patricki guess gcc 3.3 is obsolit as well06:59
cycloneinfinito: I have.07:00
Aragorn_GuardianThreeDayMonk: gonna try again....thanks...07:00
cycloneon 2 computers.. My laptop is being a punk though.07:00
infinitocyclone: and how it was? clean enough?07:01
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abarbacciawhats the package name for the java runtime environment in breezy?07:01
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stianhHey guys, I am trying to install VMware in breezy preview, I've installed kernel headers and so on, but when I try running the vmware-config.pl and it looks for C headers, I get this -> http://pastebin.com/36265907:01
enycabar: which one <G> ;-)07:01
stianhany suggestions?07:01
stianhDr_Willis, that ok? :P07:01
G|Patrickjava: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport07:02
Dr_Willis:)07:02
Volen_ATAKAAhow to convert .rmp to .deb07:02
Dr_Willis'alien' can convert rpm to .deb07:02
Volen_ATAKAA# alien07:02
Volen_ATAKAAbash: alien: command not found07:02
delujaquestion: after installing ubuntu, it cannot start. monitor does klick and screen is black. it seems that it doesnt recognize my graphic card geforce440 mx, or my display07:03
Volen_ATAKAAUbuntu 5.1007:03
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enycvile: then you need to install 'alien'07:03
abarbacciawhats the difference between se and re?07:03
abarbacciawith the java?07:03
enycvole: but, generlal,y , you shoudl avoid foreign packages unless you need them07:03
nfinitep1astikdeluja: can you get into your terminal?07:03
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Volen_ATAKAA10x07:04
delujano i cant... it seems everything ok, but when it has to start xserver, screen gets black and i hear click07:04
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nfinitep1astikdeluja: so you cant get to your other consoles at all?07:05
GhostFreemanAnyone here know of a video player with subtitle support07:05
nfinitep1astikGhostFreeman: vlc07:06
delujano nothing, i even cant do ctrl alt del to restart comp...07:06
delujabut instalation went fine, it didnt show any error or smth07:06
nfinitep1astikdeluja: have you had this problem before?07:07
GhostFreemanis it on repo?07:07
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nfinitep1astikGhostFreeman: yes07:07
GhostFreemanok thanks07:07
delujano i have fedora core 2 and it s working fine07:07
thrush_2Delgul, can you boot to recovery mode at startup?07:07
nfinitep1astikGhostFreeman: make sure you have your repositories updated07:07
Gundjahabarbaccia: JavaSE => Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition (J2SE) provides a complete environment for applications development on desktops and servers and for deployment in embedded environments.07:07
thrush_2deluja,07:07
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GhostFreemanok07:08
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delujathrush_2 : no, i didnt07:08
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kranebitt2How do I install packages from other sites than the ones ubuntu has chosen?07:08
GundjahRE stands fr Runtime Environment. See http://java.sun.com07:08
delujabut how to boot in recovery mode?07:08
Lethal-Rocks!tell kranebitt2 about repos07:08
Sonny_WertzikCan someone point me to a repository that has the latest version of Mplayer for AMD64?07:08
delujagrub doesnt offer any choice07:08
delujaand i havent seen any option on install cd07:09
Lethal-Rocksdeluja, Press esc on boot07:09
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deluja...ok so in recovery mode i can change screen resolution or smth? because i presume it s problem with unsuported resolution or smth07:10
Lethal-Rocksrecovery mode is a root terminal07:10
Volen_ATAKAAHow to get @100Hz instead @85Hz, I added the horizontal and the vertical values in xorg.conf07:10
nfinitep1astikdeluja: have you tried a live cd?07:11
Sonny_Wertzikanyone?07:11
delujalethal-rock: yeah.. ok. i hope it s just resolution problem07:11
Lethal-RocksVolen_ATAKAA, I'd like to know that too07:11
Dr_WillisVolen_ATAKAA,  are you using a lcd display?07:11
G|Patrickhelp07:11
AlakalaHey, how do I get my usb-hd with Ubuntu to work? If I boot it (Grub) on the main hd, where my windows is, grub works, but it doesn't find /dev/console and such, but if I then again boot with the external, Grub gives the error 18. :(07:11
Volen_ATAKAASamsung SyncMaster 957DF07:11
G|Patrickget following mesage in synaptic07:11
Volen_ATAKAACRT07:11
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: i dunno one off the top of my head but you can do an apt-cache search for 64 bitmplayer07:11
delujanfinitep1astik: yep, i did... same problem and same mistake.07:11
G|Patrickubuntu-desktop:07:12
G|Patrick Depends: readahead-list  but it is not installable07:12
G|Patrickwhat can i do now?07:12
Sonny_Wertzikwhat exactly do i type for that in terminal infinitep?07:12
Dr_Willisi always check otu the x modeline generator site --->  http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl07:12
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: sudo apt-cache search mplayer | more07:12
Volen_ATAKAAHow to get @100Hz instead @85Hz, I added the horizontal and the vertical values in xorg.conf PLS HELP my eyes suffer ( :))) )07:12
delujacould it be to mistake on cd or smth... i ve ordered it at ubuntu site07:12
kranebitt2Could somebody please tell me how to use those repos and if I could use the entire sourceforge site to look for packages07:12
nfinitep1astikdeluja: not necessarily, ubuntu might have just configured it incorrectly due to an inconsistant variable07:13
enycVole: I wonder this too07:13
nfinitep1astikdeluja: you are using hoary right?07:13
Lethal-Rocksenyc, Volen_ATAKAA So do I :P07:13
delujayes hoary 5.0407:13
enycVole: I have a gateway XV900  that can do 160hz (!!!), and this Sony GDM-4011P (100hz) !!07:13
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Sonny_Wertzikdang i got nothin07:14
Dr_WillisVolen_ATAKAA,  if you can tell the diff from 85 to 100.. you got much younger eyes then  i do. -->    may want to check    http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl07:14
Volen_ATAKAA:)07:14
just_inwhat package do I need to view TIFF's in mozilla07:14
enycLeth, Vole, :  I find that the modelines from  xtiming.sf.net  dont work for me, they cause it all to not-work07:14
Volen_ATAKAAyes there is a difference i use CRT07:14
reiki_workVolen_ATAKAA: what country?07:14
Volen_ATAKAABulgaria07:15
reiki_workI suppose I could look...07:15
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: have you tried googling it?07:15
reiki_workVolen_ATAKAA: your electrical system is 220V and 85Hz?07:15
Sonny_Wertzikya i found it but i dont want to compile it07:15
erUSULjust_in, almost all image viewers suport tiff (eog, gthumb)07:15
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Volen_ATAKAAreiki_work, what ???07:15
enycDr_W: have you actually had a  xtiming.sf.net  modeline working in  hoary X.org server ??07:15
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ReleaseXhello all07:15
ulissehello tribe!07:15
Dr_Willisenyc,  i just normally use that site for my widescreen laptops. works good for them in a dozen disrtos.07:16
reiki_workVolen_ATAKAA: you electrical power... what you have your monitor plugged into and what poweers your lights in your building07:16
just_inerUSUL: but I need a plugin for mozilla what would that be?07:16
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Volen_ATAKAAi understand07:16
enycDR_W: hrrm... I had some perfectly sensible modelines from there that just mucked everything up in  hoary 's x server ;-(07:16
Sonny_Wertziklast time i compiled it my xdesktop crashed07:16
TrilobiteAC cycles surely have no bearing on problems of screen flicker?07:16
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: www.mplayerhq.hu07:16
enycDr_W : tried allsorts... I just couldnt get it to behave07:16
Volen_ATAKAAwhat is the relation between my problem reiki_work07:16
Volen_ATAKAA:)))))))07:16
Trilobiteit's a monitor issue07:16
enyctril: indeed...07:16
erUSULjust_in, why do you need that?07:17
reiki_workTrilobite: they sure do07:17
Sonny_Wertzikthx07:17
Volen_ATAKAAUnder Windows i use @100Hz, but I want linux07:17
enycWell.. if you have mains-driven TRANSFORMERS nearby.... can be a problem07:17
reiki_workTrilobite: if he's matching the frequency of his electrical system or a harmonic thereof... he can very well see strobing07:17
Trilobitehmm07:17
Trilobitei'll defer to your expertise07:17
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Sonny_Wertzikheh...thats where i got the first one that crashed my desktop07:18
Dr_Willisoh wait i am all LCD now a days.. so it dosent matter.07:18
Lethal-RocksThat might explain why 60Hz looks more funky than 50 :P07:18
enycsome TVs had/have transformers running from mains (not swithced), hence 50/60hz , hence the  TV signal refresh needed to be the same as the mains frequency to avoid picture-wobble07:18
reiki_workTrilobite: I wouldn't know this except I ran into it many years ago... my older brother is an electrical engineer and explained to me how and why it's like that07:18
Sonny_Wertzikthing is i dont think it was for amd6407:18
just_inI'm trying to view a TIFF in mozilla and it tells me I need a plugin07:18
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fredforfaenYo folks07:18
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: then there might not be one available07:18
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: do you have to use mplayer?07:18
Trilobitereiki_work: my mistake then, i'll have to look into this some time, you've got me interested now07:18
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reiki_workTrilobite in the US we are normally at 60Hz... so people using monitors with 60Hz refresh get headaches.. this is ESPECIALLY pronounced i office areas with flourescent lights07:19
Siemenhi all07:19
enycBut any sensible monitor etc.  has switchmode PSU, hence any 'wobble' would be 10..100 kHz somewhere and  cause LINE-rate wobble, not FRAME-rate wobble07:19
Siemenanyone who knows how to install the X sources?07:19
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enycreik: be careful what you mean 'flourescent lights'.. only if they are driven off the mains with a magnetic ballast...07:19
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enycreik:  if you have a HF (electronic, High Frequency) ballast, they just dont flicker really...  in short07:20
reiki_workencyc: ok... valid qualifier there. :)07:20
Sonny_Wertzikit would be the all in one solution...i found and older version  but i have no idea how to get it into synaptic07:20
CookedGryphonhey, in a shell script, how do i ask a yes no question and get an answer, doing one routine if yes, another if no?07:20
enycAnwyay, a GOOD CRT monitor with high requesh capability and good focus  is still very usable ;-)07:20
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: is it a *.deb file?07:20
Sonny_Wertzikya07:20
enycSome poeple seem to go out of their way to promote/want/demand LCD screens...07:21
nfinitep1astiksudo dpkg -i *file name*07:21
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reiki_workenyc: it's not REALLY affecting teh frame rate. It's a relationship between teh room lighting and refresh rate. The eyes (or brain) perceive it as strobing07:21
neighborleeis anyone else seeing archive manager ( file roller) take forever on unpacking some files ( this one is only 13 MB and its taking so far half a minute and it like 'stops' in certain places as if having a hard time reading package dunno...) ??07:21
enycreik: interesting...07:21
Sonny_Wertzikthank u07:21
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: did it work?07:22
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enycreik: I use a HF  flourescent light  and a  85hz flourescing (crt) monitor display...07:22
enycreik: and dont get headaches07:22
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Sonny_Wertzikcheckin now07:22
enycreik: though, if i could sort out the darned Vrefresh in  hoary  box,  I could do at least 100hz on that monitor/card07:22
nfinitep1astikenyc: just to do it?07:23
reiki_workenyc: you may not be sensitive to it. I know some people never notice and some people it really bothers07:23
nfinitep1astik=D07:23
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enycreik: sure07:23
enycnfin: erm.. but I cant get it to work!07:23
enycnfin: the weird ubuntu mode switcher thingie never presents > 85hz as an option07:23
enycnfin: this would appear to be a limitation  of the ubuntu hoary  provided 'mode switcher thingie'07:23
Lethal-RocksSame here enyc07:23
nfinitep1astikenyc: have you tried adding it to your xorg.conf?07:23
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enycnfin: I have tried and tried  with modelines  for what I want,  and it all doesn't work07:24
Lethal-RocksActually, I think I can get 87 out of one of them07:24
evianI solved my resolution problem with the help of the wiki07:24
enycnfin: I've been quite successful with modelines on other installs/distros/systems (e.g. with xfree86)07:24
nfinitep1astikenyc: well, i dont suppose forcing x into 100 refresh isn't working either?07:24
enycnfin: hrrrm.. how exactly ?07:24
enycnfin: btw, I am not at that machine now, and wont be until tomorrow07:24
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nfinitep1astikenyc: perhaps we can elaborate more tomorrow then?07:25
eggletplease can someone help me with a dhcpd problem?07:25
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Siemen@gookedGryphon: hava you thought about using python? it's pretty easy in python07:25
nfinitep1astikegglet: what's the problem?07:25
enyceggl: whats going on ?07:25
SiemenCan anyone help me installing th e X sources?07:26
CookedGryphonSiemen, i like my shell scripts tho07:26
Sonny_Wertziknfinitep1astik,  it worked but the packege is broken07:26
CookedGryphoncos it doesn't require anything else to run, keeps it simple and transferrable07:27
Siemenof course07:27
!dmwaters:*! Hi all! small server split for maintenence. something like 40 users effected. I forgot himem support when i origionally buit it's kernel earlier:)07:27
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: then you'll have to find all of it's dependancies07:27
ulisseI've noticed a strange behaviour with nautilus: before midnight it uses my locale (IT), after midnight it become english... is it a cinderella bug?07:27
Sonny_Wertziknfinitep1astik, yes thanks a ton i appreciate your help07:28
Sonny_Wertzik:-)07:28
nfinitep1astikSonny_Wertzik: np07:28
Sonny_Wertzikat least ive got something to go on now07:28
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eggletnfiniteplastik: i've set up a dhcp server for my wireless device but when i try to connect i get a "no free leases" message in the log07:29
yanchenghi, anyone noe wat is some powerful feature which can be provided by emacs compared with gedit07:29
nfinitep1astikegglet: did you make sure your dhcp server can give out enough leases?07:29
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eggletnfiniteplastik: i gave it a range of 192.168.1.100-200 and this is the only client so far07:30
eruinanyone using clearlooks-cairo on breezy?07:30
nfinitep1astikwhat are you using as your dhcp server?07:31
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eggletnfiniteplastic - apt-got the dhcp3-server and am using htat07:31
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nfinitep1astikwhat are you using as an access point for your wireless device?07:32
eggletnfiniteplastic: am trying to set up my ubuntu box as either the access point (in master mode) or to set up an adhoc network07:32
eggletso it's set as the authorative dhcp server07:33
Lethal-RocksCould someone please explain what I need to do for my wireless network? I installed the module, kwifi says it's connected to the network and access point, but I can't use sites or ping even the router07:33
nfinitep1astikegglet: so you physically have a wireless pci device? and do you have it setup as a domain?07:33
eggletnfiniteplastik: yes, i have a pci device sitting happily on ath0. it's working properly 'cause i've used it to connect to an access point before and is registering the incoming dhcp requests but claims to be unable to provide a lease (no free leases)07:34
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eggletnfiniteplastick: my server log says things like: "Sep 13 18:20:34 localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:11:24:22:d9:82 via ath0: network 192.168.1.0/24: no free leases"07:35
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nfinitep1astikthen technically you're not going to be giving out ip leases....in my opinion, i think you're better off in workgroup configuration07:36
egglethow do i go about doing that?07:36
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Lethal-RocksWhat's the command too see what's running (not jobs, the toher one)07:36
nfinitep1astikegglet: just statically assign a class d address (192.168.1.1 and up) to your two computers07:37
thenukeLethal-Rocks: ps aux07:37
Lethal-Rocksty :D07:37
eggletnfiniteplastik: thanks. will try that.07:37
G|Patrickhmmm...07:38
G|Patrickneed a "how to" about "adding applications to breezy that are not be found by the menu tool07:38
eggletnfiniteplastik: how do i stop dhcpd from loading on startup?07:38
nfinitep1astikegglet: you can uninstall it or kill the process out07:39
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G|Patrickhow can i add opera to the gnome menu?07:39
eggletjust out of interest. what is the command to add and remove things to the startup chain?07:40
nfinitep1astikegglet: good question07:40
Lethal-Rocksegglet, I think the scripts are in /etc/init.d/07:40
Lethal-RocksNot too sure on that07:40
Dr_Willisdepends on what you are wanting to add also.07:40
bipolaris there a way to get accelerated 3d on my radion 9000 laptop that doesn't start with "open a terminal"? I'm more then competent to do it that way but I'm wondering why ubuntu doesn't automaticly enable it. It's using the 'ati' driver instead of the 'radion' one.07:41
nfinitep1astiklol07:41
Dr_Willisbipolar,  - Legal issues  is the reason why.07:41
nfinitep1astikbipolar: ...open a terminal.......07:41
bipolarDr_Willis, I'm talking about the open source driver.07:41
eggletnfiniteplastik: cheers. workgroup seems to be the solution. is all happy now.07:41
Dr_Willisbipolar,  took me about 3 min and 3 lines of cut/pasting. :P  to get the official ones going.07:42
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Dr_Willisoh the OS ones.. well it could be they defaulted to the 'safer' drivers07:42
bipolarDr_Willis, I dont need the ati (flgrx) drivers. The open source ones do just as good on this 9000. :)07:42
nfinitep1astikbipolar: well, if you're on ppc,i could point you the right direction07:42
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bipolarnfinitep1astik, I can do it the hard way. I'm just wondering if there is a more user friendly way.07:43
bipolarnfinitep1astik, this is the 'debian' way not the 'ubuntu' way. :)07:43
G|Patrickhuhu07:44
G|Patrickno idea?07:44
G|Patrick:(07:44
nfinitep1astikbipolar: lol, no worries,i had to do it the hard way on my ibook also, but it doesn't get much easier than taking the long route07:44
bipolarnfinitep1astik, ok. Maybe I should make a bug report.07:44
nfinitep1astikbipolar: nothing wrong with that07:44
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erUSULegglet,  update-rc.d07:45
nfinitep1astikbipolar: and while you're there...ask them to make a ppc  version while they're at it =D07:45
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bipolarG|Patrick, brezzy has a sweet app to do that.07:45
nfinitep1astikegglet: np d00d07:45
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bipolarnfinitep1astik, heh... theres no ppc radion xorg driver? thats strange.07:46
Kuolio\o/ breezy installed and working like a charm \o/07:46
G|Patrickbipolar: i asked in  the beginning07:46
G|Patrickhow its possible to add tools that cant be found by that tool07:46
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G|Patrickfirst tool should have been aplication...07:46
nfinitep1astikbipolar: beggars cant be choosers so i had to reinstall tiger =/07:46
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Frafrahi all07:47
Frafrai've a big problem07:47
nirtalany one here that are running ubuntu 5.10 and got ati drivers working fine?07:47
Frafrain breezy for amd64, i can't install vlc07:47
Frafrahttp://rafb.net/paste/results/alYE0821.html07:47
bipolarG|Patrick, open a terminal and.... :P07:47
samu2can you pipe output from programs to the clipboard?07:47
G|Patrickit doesnt find opera07:48
G|Patricki dont know why07:48
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G|Patrickbut thats a fact07:48
bipolara graphical X configurator would be really nice.07:48
nfinitep1astikFrafra: can you paste it in english?07:48
G|Patrickso any alternative solutions referring not to that new tool :D07:48
Frafranfinitep1astik: how can i set it to english?07:48
KrispyKringleSo postfix-tls should be all I need to do SSL-ed SASL authenticatioin against a relay host, right?07:48
G|Patrick*questionmark*07:48
bipolarG|Patrick, there must be a problem with the opera package. It doesn't create menu entries.07:48
KrispyKringleI'm getting an error that seems to indicate no SSL support.07:48
thrush_2Frafra, breezy issues still pretty common you could always compile vlc..07:48
G|Patrickbipolar: in kde it does... weired, isnt it?07:49
nirtalisn't it just that it need to install dbus-1 and libhal0 to install vlc but it can't download them?07:49
nfinitep1astikFrafra: did you update your list of repositories?07:49
bipolarG|Patrick, yes. it must only create kde menu items instead of the standard that kde and gnome both follow now.07:49
Frafranfinitep1astik: yes, i've do dist-upgrade 2 min. ago07:49
G|Patrickany clue, how to teach breezy's tool how to find opera?07:49
erUSULsamu2, i do not think so07:49
erUSULsamu2, use a tmp file07:49
nfinitep1astikdid you apt-get update also?07:50
G|Patrickbipolor: would u try it by urself?07:50
Frafranfinitep1astik: yes, of course07:50
nfinitep1astikFrafra: making sure ^.^07:50
nirtaltry to add someother sources to your source.list07:50
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samu2erUSUL, omfg! so i thought of something really useful that you cant do in linux then?07:50
G|Patrickhmm?07:50
Frafrathrush_2: can i comile it simply?07:51
bipolarG|Patrick, you could install smeg. That lets you add entries that don't have menu items.07:51
G|Patrick"smeg" ?07:51
G|Patrickok07:51
cevizogluI'm trying to install a netgear wg511v2 card.  The lspci is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2142.  It doesn't show up in the network and the lights don't come on, modprobe prism54 doesn't work07:52
G|Patrickbtw... i just noticed that i was into a simple interface of synaptic and not in the one u were referring to07:52
G|Patrickhow is the new tool called?07:52
MadpiloterUSUL & samu2: you can pipe command line output to txt files - check linuxcommand.org, I can't remember the gory details07:52
Lethal-RocksHow do I upgrade to breezy from the command line?07:52
nirtalcan any one help me, want my ati drivers to work.... glxgears stops when i try to run it, no fps prompted?07:52
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cevizoglu!upgrade2breezy07:52
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:52
thrush_2Frafra, havent compiled vlc myself but it should be pretty simple.  Just download the source code file, extract it.  It should come with a README or just as here if you have a problem07:52
andrilhello all07:53
Siemenhello07:53
samu2Madpilot, i know you can pipe to files. But it would be nice when you're pasting stuff for bug reports if you could pipe output right into the copy and paste buffer.07:53
Frafrathrush_2: thanks07:53
erUSULMadpilot, that's what i said pipe to a tmp file paste from it or from the console07:53
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andrildoes anyone know when Breezy is going to be final (ready & stable)?07:54
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cevizogluandril: about a month07:54
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andrilcevizglu: cool - I didn't want to damage my install - since I got it singing07:55
G|Patrickbipolor?07:55
G|Patrickbipolar?07:55
bipolarG|Patrick, yeah07:55
Siemencan someone tell me how to install the x sources??07:55
G|Patricki was wrong... watched the wrong tool07:56
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G|Patrickhow is the thing called, tahts new in breeyz07:56
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bipolarG|Patrick, under 'System Tools' > 'Applications Menu Editor'07:56
GundjahCould someone help me set up my monitor?07:57
nfinitep1astikSiemen: dunno, let me google it for you07:57
Gundjahi.e. with xorg.conf07:57
G|Patrickdont have that07:57
Siemenok, tx07:58
bipolarG|Patrick, hmmm... I wonder if your menu is not refreshing.07:58
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G|Patrickmay it because of a simple upgrade instead of a clean install?07:58
bipolarG|Patrick, just on a hunch... try logging out/in and see if the menu items show up.07:58
bipolarG|Patrick, maybe Opera will be there too07:58
G|Patricki logged in 3 times until i reinstalled opera07:58
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G|Patrickand 5 times since the upgrade07:59
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kafeinekhm07:59
kafeineanyone had any success07:59
VoXhow do i set different background pictures on seperate monitors, using twinview?07:59
kafeinewith ati under breezy?07:59
G|Patrickfirst until = since07:59
arachnionI am trying to get mysql to run (XAMPP)07:59
arachnionbut it won't run07:59
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G|Patrickkafeine: my x server always crashes when i try to install the propritary driver07:59
nirtali'm trying on ati under breezy07:59
G|Patrickwith the defaults its working08:00
arachnionerror #2002 The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)08:00
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erUSULsamu2, there is no unified cut&paste buffer in X hence there is no such facility.08:00
bipolarG|Patrick, what ATI card do you have?08:00
arachnionis it posible that is is related to ubuntu? it used to work fine08:00
G|Patrick980008:00
bipolarkafeine, what ATI card do you have?08:00
kafeine9600 pro08:00
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kafeinei managed to start dri08:00
bipolarI've got a 9000 in my laptop that works with the xorg 'radion' driver.08:00
nfinitep1astikSiemen: almost have it08:01
kafeinebut no opengl..08:01
nirtalwhere in xorg.conf should i put the sring "Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no""?08:01
bipolarI need to restart X. I just edited my xorg.conf.08:01
samu2erUSUL, oh? Is that why I never get the right text pasted on the first try? :)08:01
erUSULbipolar, you mean radeon08:01
samu2That's one place where windows owns linux.08:01
samu2And also the sound mixing stuff, where apps steal the soundcard so the other ones can't run.08:02
nirtalit's wierd, when I'm trying to run glxgears the gears stops and no fps i prompted....08:02
samu2Somebody really should fix that.08:02
cevizoglusamu2: file a bug08:02
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Gundjahxorg.conf gave my monitor resolutions 28-72 and 43-60. I changed these to correct (36-64 and 50-100), then noticed a line below: Modeline"1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 162408:02
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nfinitep1astikSiemen: you there?08:03
G|Patrickbipolar: i think we are talking about the ati thing that worked fine in hoary ;)08:03
nfinitep1astikSiemen: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8/doc/08:03
GundjahWhat does this imply? up to now I've only managed a refresh rate max 60Hz, and I know that this thing can go over. So do I need to care about that line after correcting the refresh rates?08:03
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Siemeni'm right here:)08:03
samu2cevizoglu, Hmm... I should do that. I just thought somebody else would have been annoyed by this before me.08:03
nfinitep1astikSiemen: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8/doc/08:03
estershi again08:04
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Gundjahest - got it working?08:04
estersnoup08:04
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estersi need to conver NTFS to ext308:04
estersbut how08:04
cevizoglusamu2: you could think that about any bug though08:04
yanchenghi, in crreating static library (*.a) with two object file with same exported function name, how can i prevent this?08:04
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esterswithout loosing data08:04
GundjahOver my head...08:05
larsrohdinhi, I have a question concering emacs mostly... can I post here or is there a #emacs?08:05
cevizoglularsrohdin, there is an #emacs08:05
samu2cevizoglu, Well in my humble opinion it would seem that some bugs affect more people than others do.08:05
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cevizoglusamu2, that's true but you don't know if anyone bothered to file a bug for it08:05
estershmm08:05
estersany solutions?08:05
larsrohdincevizoglu, fiund it thanks08:06
larsrohdinfound08:06
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Gundjahest - I don't think you have other options but to backup and re-format...08:06
estersaga08:06
Gundjahyou want to kick XP?08:06
Lethal-RocksAnyone know why I can't connect to the internet on my chroot'ed fs?08:06
cevizoglusamu2, I filed a bug for lack of second mouse button emulation on powerbooks, and they were going to skip that problem on hoary, and did because no one really complained about it08:06
paxmasterhello How could I burn an .iso with cdrecord08:07
thrush_2esters, I normally get another harddrive backup the data format the old drive and then copy the data back not the best solution I know :p08:07
kafeinegah08:07
estersGundjah, the problem is that my mother uses XP08:07
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occybob2, got it all back and restored.08:07
cevizoglusamu2, that is something which affects every single powerbook user using ubuntu08:07
kafeinesome support of ati should be required for the breezy release..08:07
Gundjahest - you cannot do it then. XP cannot read ext308:07
occybob2, it was the bad drivers.08:07
LokeDKErr I tried enlightenment (don't think it has anything to do with that) .. but I logged out and gdm tried to start... but after the nvidia splash .. it crashed.. and it stopped after like 3 or 4 times and it said that it couldn't start and it would disable gdm until I got the problem fixed.. but I reinstalled the nvidia driver and it worked now.. I've looked at the /var/www/Xorg.0.log.old and it says this http://pastebin.com/362724 .. I ha08:07
LokeDKve updated my xorg recently today..08:07
thrush_2esters, if you just need write access you can reinstall xp as fat32 instead of ntfs08:07
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estersno thanks08:07
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estersi vill get my friends HDD08:08
estersput my DC share and Format08:08
estersbut08:08
HappyFoolpaxmaster: it should be fairly easy, if you're used to command-line programs08:08
samu2cevizoglu, yeah, that would affect quite a few people. But the problems I mentioned affects everyone who cuts and pastes and uses multimedia apps.08:08
estersthen08:08
J1mnewbie question: is there some way to cause ~/.bash_profile to be read?08:08
estershow will i get it to ext3?08:08
Gundjahest - your mom will lose the xp08:08
estersno08:08
estersi hawe 3 partitions08:08
GundjahAh.08:08
dandavatest, you can read ext3 from XP08:08
esters1 is 4 Windows XP08:08
esters2 ir for Linux08:08
J1mI just installed ubuntu and the .bash_profile that unbuntu created for me isn't being read.08:08
esters3 is for games,files,music08:09
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cevizoglusamu2: actually, I read what you're talking about.  sounds more like a tool, which is a feature request, than a bug08:09
arachnionbbl08:09
estersi will not loose xp because the 1 partition i'm not going to format08:09
paxmasterlike this cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 file.iso08:09
cevizoglusamu2: I venture to think there might already be such a tool08:09
HappyFoolpaxmaster: i think something as simple as cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw filename.iso will work, but you can specify extra options08:09
estersi want only the 3 partiton about 140gb :)08:09
HappyFoolpaxmaster: yeah, that might work. i'm not familiar with that scsi numbering scheme though08:09
HappyFoolpaxmaster: also, you can specify -dummy to do a 'dummy' burn; might be handy08:10
estersbut used is only about 35gb08:10
paxmasterthanks08:10
prolsdhmm, is there a partition magic like tool to resize partitions with?08:10
Gundjahest - check man mkfs08:10
dandavatesters, use explore2fs to read ext partitions from Windows XP08:10
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GundjahCould someone help me set up my monitor?08:10
estersoh08:10
Gundjahi.e. with xorg.conf08:10
estersbut08:10
Gundjahxorg.conf gave my monitor resolutions 28-72 and 43-60. I changed these to correct (36-64 and 50-100), then noticed a line below: Modeline"1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 162408:10
esterswhen i will format the partition08:10
GundjahWhat does this imply? up to now I've only managed a refresh rate max 60Hz, and I know that this thing can go over. So do I need to care about that line after correcting the refresh rates?08:10
estershow will i convert it to EXT3?08:10
esterswith what tool?08:10
Gundjahest - the tool is mkfs.08:11
estersthis is the first day i'm using linux08:11
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dandavatGundjah, What kind of monitor you have?08:11
esters4 years = windoes08:11
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esterswindows*08:11
GundjahDandavat - ATI ProVista08:11
HappyFoolesters: if the live CD has gparted, or qparted, you can use one of those (they are graphical tools)08:11
dandavatGundjah, Is it CRT or TFT?08:11
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GundjahCRT 17", and the refresh rates I put are correct AFAIK08:12
estersHappyFool, WHY SHOULD I USE LIVE CD?08:12
GundjahI mean the ones I put to xorg.conf. I just don't understand that one line08:12
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HappyFoolesters: please don't shout. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve08:12
MacaveliMCAnyone know how I can view wmv files in the browser on linux?08:12
estersok ok08:12
HappyFoolesters: the install CD also has a partitioning tool which is fairly straightforward to use.08:12
esterssorry08:12
Lethal-RocksGundjah, I think it's because it's a wierd resolution08:13
estersok08:13
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Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me how to add the local folder to my PATH?08:13
J1mdoes anybody here use .bash_profile?08:13
HappyFoolBad_Magic: what do you mean by the 'local folder' ?08:13
cevizogluhmmm... looks like my netgear wg511 card isn't supported in linux.  thx netgear  :P08:13
Bad_Magic./08:13
lsuactiafnerexport PATH=$PATH:new_line08:13
dandavatJIm, no08:13
GundjahYap. But my problem now is that I cannot get this thingy to do over 60Hz even on 1024*768 - and I know for fact that this can go to 85Hz on that. So how should I edit the file?08:13
lsuactiafnerJ1m : i do08:13
J1mlsuactiafner, great.  How do you get your's read?08:14
HappyFoolBad_Magic: you can use 'export PATH=.:$PATH', similar to lsuactiafner's suggestion08:14
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occyis there a reason I have to do fuser -k /dev/dsp each time I boot?08:14
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lsuactiafnerGundjah : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for lines that say sync08:14
occyin order to have my sound work?08:14
lsuactiafnerJ1m : what?08:14
HappyFoolBad_Magic: that is usually considered a bad idea, for what it's worth08:15
estersgonna go play counter-strike08:15
esters:)08:15
VoXi'd just like to say, that composite is _the sex_08:15
cevizogluoccy: not sure, but you might put it in your init script08:15
lsuactiafnerMacaveliMC : mplayer08:15
J1mlsuactiafner, I just installed ubuntu.  It created a .bash_profile for me.  This .bash_profile is not being executed when I log in.  I'm wondering if I have to do something special to have it get used.08:15
HappyFoolJ1m: .bash_profile, if memory serves, is only read for 'login shells'; you can use .bashrc instead08:15
Gundjahlsuac - done that. HorizSync now says 36-64, and VertRefresh 50-100, which apparently are correct ones.08:16
lsuactiafnerJ1m : .bash_profile doesnt apply to terminals, only to consoles08:16
dandavatJlm, I use ~/.gnomerc instead08:16
Lethal-RocksGundjah, logout and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace08:16
J1mhm, ok.08:16
Gundjahlsuac - xorg.conf sectoin "Monitor"08:16
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pufflsuactiafner: Ya know, I always wondered what the difference between .bashrc and bash_profile was.08:16
GundjahLethal - what's the idea?08:16
Lethal-RocksRestart X08:16
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J1mI was using FC1 before and I always disabled graphical login. :)08:16
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lsuactiafnerGundjah         VertRefresh     50-15008:17
lsuactiafnerhmm08:17
lsuactiafner        HorizSync       30 - 71.008:17
lsuactiafneris mine08:17
puffCan anybody help me with this disappearing wireless card thing?08:17
TalkyHi guys :)08:17
Gundjahlsuac - this is from -99 :-)08:17
BoneEwhat is the different terminals and consoles08:17
puffMaybe I should just reinstall ubuntu.08:17
puffHm, how re-install friendly is ubuntu?08:17
GundjahLethal - will X re-write that strange line there?08:17
joblicevizoglu. Maybe you can use the driver from linuxant.com ?08:17
lsuactiafnerpuff : its not windows08:17
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lsuactiafneryou dont reinstall it08:17
lsuactiafneryou fix it.08:17
J`I cannot `force` my ubuntu to recignize mp3; There is no gstreamer0.8.mad (or what was for mp3) in my synaptic packages. Why?08:17
Lethal-RocksGundjah, I don't know, I don't have one08:18
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radbathi all! how do i install wine? do i need the winetools package and win-utils or is it wnough with just the wine package?08:18
J`And XMMS acts weird - cannot load any file..08:18
HappyFool!tell J` about restricted08:18
Milan-NLHello :) I have a problem with installing Ubuntu08:18
Gundjahradbat - apt-get install wine :-)08:18
HappyFoolJ`: you need to tell xmms to use the 'eSound' output plugin08:18
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Milan-NLIt stops at Primary Installation Respository08:18
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pufflsuactiafner: Okay, then can you help me fix it?08:19
foodcomanIs there something better than VNC  for remoting a Kubuntu system (Multi Platform windows -> linux, linux -> linux)??08:19
lsuactiafnerpuff : i dont know anything about wireless cards08:19
BelutzHappyFool: do you happen to know if i could get an op in #ubuntu-id ?08:19
Milan-NLAfter an half our there is still nothing happened08:19
cevizoglujobli: unfortunately, I have to use the prism54 drivers, as I'm on PPC arch08:19
HappyFoolfoodcoman: X forwarding over ssh ?08:19
lsuactiafnerbut reinstalling wont fix it.08:19
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pufflsuactiafner: I am pretty much stuck.  http://pastebin.com/36264908:19
HappyFoolBelutz: um. i don't even know what that means, sorry ;)08:19
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Bad_Magicdoes gnome come with a rich text version of the C++ API?08:19
lsuactiafneri'm going to study now08:19
cevizoglujobli: but I'm considering trying out breezy to see if it works there08:19
jobliok08:19
lsuactiafnermake HappyFool help you, he knows linux well08:19
foodcomanThanks HappyFool !  I will do some reading.08:19
BelutzHappyFool: hehehe... i mean, how could i be an channel operator in #ubuntu-id ?08:20
Bad_Magici think i read that it does08:20
Bad_Magic=x08:20
lllmanulllMilan-NL, Is your network connexion working ?08:20
pufflsuactiafner: I'm not sure that's a "wireless"problem per se, but rather that ubuntu comes up (resume from disk) and can't load the firmware or something.08:20
thrush_2foodcoman, freenx is nice08:20
radbatgundjah: ant aftar that? how do i configure everything? just typing wine is not enogh i guess?08:20
HappyFoolBelutz: i think you need to find out who is the 'owner' of the channel and ask them08:20
Milan-NLlllmanulll: In windows it is...08:20
puffHappyFool: Any clues?08:20
Gundjahradbat - goto http://www.winehq.org, read Wine User Guide.08:21
BelutzHappyFool: how do i find the 'owner' ?08:21
foodcomanI read something about freenx.  Someone was saying is was snappy even over modem!08:21
GundjahI just did it yesterday m'self :-)08:21
HappyFoolBelutz: maybe chanserv can tell you who the owner is, but i'm not really sure08:21
foodcomanSpeed is always good.08:21
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cevizogludoes the breezy livecd work well on powerbooks?08:21
BelutzHappyFool: ok, thx :)08:21
GundjahIf it doesn't work, channel #winehq08:21
radbatgundjah: allright.. thanks..08:21
HappyFoolpuff: i'm not familiar with wireless cards or laptops, sorry; i think there occasionally issues with resuming from hibernation08:21
Gundjahrad - there's a config utility "winetools"08:22
puffHappyFool: Ah... hm.08:22
jurdoes anyone know how to get a driver for the sis648fx chipset (or at least the sound driver)08:22
jur?08:22
HappyFoolpuff: if you know what the interface 'name' is (something like eth0, but i think wireless cards are called something else), maybe you can take it down and bring it up ?08:22
cevizogluguess I'll find out shortly  ;)08:22
puffHappyFool: no, ifup can't find the hardware.08:22
puffeth1, typically.08:22
cevizogluis there a way to make xchat notify you when someone says your name?08:23
HappyFoolpuff: ah. i'm afraid i can't help, sorry.08:23
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lllmanulllMilan-NL, Hmm, do you think the install CD could be faulty ?08:23
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puffHappyFool: The odd thing is, if I reboot, it doesn't help.08:23
lllmanulllMilan-NL, Did you burn it at maximum speed ?08:23
HappyFoolpuff: oh?08:23
puffBut if I do an  apt-get --reinstall linux-image, then reboot, it does.08:23
HappyFoolbizarre08:23
Milan-NLlllmanulll: in other pc's it works perfectly...08:23
GundjahJEZUZ I've been WAY too long in Winzozeland - I cannot read man pages anymore :P08:24
puffhttp://pastebin.com/36275008:24
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lllmanulllMilan-NL, Ah, so you've tried to perform the installation from the same CD on other PCs, right ?08:24
windexGundjah, quickly. take the cyanide. it is the only way.08:24
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puffSo I think it's some sort of weird kernel/module problem, Idaknow.08:24
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puffThough, of course, it's a suspend issue, and that's always thin ice.08:24
puffMaybe I'd be better off figuring out how to customize emacs and firefox and ubuntu so that I can just shut down and restart, and it'll open all the shit I had open before I shut down.08:24
Gundjahwindex - I thought so as well, but now I've seen the light again :-)08:24
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puffIs there any way to speed up the boot up process?  Given that this is a laptop and I'll have to shut down & restart it several times daily.08:25
Milan-NLlllmanulll: well, i used the same cd before on other pcs and that works..08:25
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cuscohi!08:25
Gundjahwindex - refer above stupid question about strange line in xorg.conf which is clearly explained in manpage...08:25
Milan-NLlllmanulll: and i tried 5.04, 5.10 in 64- and 32-bit versions08:25
cevizoglupuff: you could disable server processes you don't need08:25
Milan-NLlllmanulll: but they al didn't work08:26
lllmanulllMilan-NL, And you always get the same error ?08:26
cuscoI installed skype trough the deb package available in skype.com but..........08:26
cuscocusco@Portatil:~$ skype08:26
cuscoskype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:26
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cuscoso I installed libqt3-mt08:26
cuscobut08:26
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cuscoskype won't start08:26
Milan-NLlllmanulll: i dont get an error08:26
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Milan-NLlllmanulll: it just stay on the same place...08:27
cevizogluhow do I leave a channel in bitchX?08:27
lllmanulllMilan-NL, Well I mean it always stops at the same step08:27
lllmanulllMilan-NL, I see08:27
J`oh, thanks, HappyFool . I got XMMS playing, but i feel quit clumsy with it. And I found out that I havent check one of the software resources (thats why gstreamer - mad missed out). Looking for other mplayers :)08:27
neighborleeMilan-NL, glad to see you made it ;-00heh08:27
HappyFoolcusco: have you tried the SkypeHowto on the wiki?08:27
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Milan-NLlllmanulll: yes it stops at the same place every time08:27
lllmanulllMilan-NL, maybe try to drop a mail on the ubuntu users list ?08:27
HappyFoolJ`: some people here seem to like beep-media-player. and others recommend amarok08:27
Gundjahcya l8er08:27
J1mThanks08:27
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BelutzHappyFool: the 'owner' of the channel is last seen 39 weeks ago :(08:28
Milan-NLlllmanulll: uuh, where can I do that?08:28
HappyFoolBelutz: freenode policy is to drop nicks after 60 days08:28
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lllmanulllMilan-NL, It is a mailing list, check out http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users08:28
AnswerQuestion: I have an ssh tunnel setup from <host> to <dest>, how can I test from the <dest> if it is up?  Current method is scp a file and see if it goes thru.  Can I run ssh or scp and get a return value?08:29
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BelutzHappyFool: hmmm, so how could I 'take over' the channel?08:29
AnswerBelutz: you cannot takeover while ChanServ is here.08:29
Milan-NLlllmanulll: thanks08:29
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lllmanulllMilan-NL, No problem08:30
BelutzAnswer: not this channel of course... :)08:30
cevizogludoes breezy add extra support for newer netgear wg511 cards?08:30
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AnswerQuestion: I have an ssh tunnel setup from <host> to <dest>, how can I test from the <dest> if it is up?  Current method is scp a file and see if it goes thru.  Can I run ssh or scp and get a return value?08:31
HappyFoolAnswer: from man scp: 'scp exits with 0 on success or >0 if an error occurred.'08:31
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turkey_joecan someone help me getting beagle to work08:31
AnswerHappyFool: scp prints a string, how do I check the return value?08:31
HappyFoolAnswer: maybe you can scp host:/dev/null to /dev/null, or something similar? i'm not all that familiar with ssh tunnels (as opposed to normal ssh)08:32
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HappyFoolAnswer: in a bash script?08:32
AnswerHappyFool:  x = scp dummyfile host:/dev/null;  if x == 0 ?08:32
turkey_joei have it installed..08:32
cevizogluAnswer you get the return variable value, can't remember what it is at the moment08:32
turkey_joecan't get any search results??08:32
HappyFoolAnswer: no, you can use $?08:32
reiki_work!mplayer08:33
ubotuhmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106108:33
AnswerExample of checking hte return value of scp please?08:33
HappyFoolAnswer: or something like 'scp dummyfile host:/dev/null || exit 1'08:33
cevizogluAnswer it's $?, HappyFool said it08:33
AnswerI do not understand "$?"08:34
HappyFoolAnswer: if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then .... should work, i think. i got a bit confused doing something like this a week ago08:34
HappyFoolAnswer: what language are you working in? a shell script?08:34
cevizogluAnswer you pipe $? to the place you need your result value saved08:34
turkey_joeHelp with setting up beagle.....please!08:34
lsuactiafnerHappyFool : use && @ end ?08:34
reiki_workanyone have trouble getting mozilla-mplayer working properly? Mine won't open wmv files in the browser. I get sound but no picture08:35
AnswerI can work in a shell script if that is appropriate... ?08:35
cevizogluAnswer or you would do echo $?08:35
cevizogluAnswer to display the result to yourself08:35
HappyFoollsuactiafner: i'm not familiar with '@'; my bash knowledge is limited08:35
lsuactiafnerreiki_work : since wmv files dont play on 64bit.08:35
turkey_joedon't all reply at once now!!!08:35
HappyFoolAnswer: what language are you familiar with?08:35
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lsuactiafnerif you have && the script will quit if the previous command failed.08:36
turkey_joeouch!08:36
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HappyFool!tell turkey_joe about beagle08:36
AnswerA bash script would be acceptable, or Tcl/TK or whatever language u want08:36
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HappyFoolAnswer: heh. it is really what language you want ;). Anyway, if using a bash script you can use the && trick, or look at $?08:37
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AnswerSo, scp dummyfile host:/dev/null > $?                  then echo $?08:37
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HappyFoolAnswer: no, $? is a magic variable08:37
pescoHi, quick dumb question, can I install from the live CD?08:37
cevizogluAnswer $? will automagically contain the result for you08:37
HappyFoolAnswer: scp dummyfile host:/dev/null; echo $?08:37
HappyFoolpesco: nope08:37
pescoHappyFool: OK, thanks. :)08:37
AnswerAh that is what I was missing... because it is actually missing08:38
k-0tikanybody know when breezy badger is coming out in october?08:38
pescoHappyFool: Next round, why not? Space?08:38
lsuactiafnerAnswer : scp bleh ect && echo success08:38
NegativePlazmaWhy does everyone in here prefer ubuntu to say other distros like slackware? Im doing some reasearch for a project08:38
lsuactiafnerAnswer : just curios, why not just use ping?08:38
HappyFoolk-0tik: look for 'BreezySchedule' on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex08:38
k-0tikthanks08:38
smottNegativePlazma: because this one actually works08:38
HappyFoolpesco: i'm not sure; probably08:38
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lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : i like slackware, so i run a hybryd ubuntu/slackware. ppl use what suits them best, a hybrid suits me best.08:39
fdrNegativePlazma:  because it works at the first try, and has got a good package system08:39
cevizogluNegativePlazma: no other distro really works well on a powerbook08:39
NegativePlazmahmm interesting08:39
k-0tiknegativeplazma, it uses apt, it's stable, and user friendly. and is growing fast08:39
Answerlsuactiafner: pings can be successful when the ssh tunnel is down bc both ips are public sometimes08:39
cevizogluNegativePlazma: also what fdr said08:39
HappyFoolNegativePlazma: six-month release cycle, post-release support for (at least) 18 months, and desirable goals (accessibility, internationalization)08:39
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : ubuntu got financial backing for difficult areas.. and it appeals to a bigger market08:40
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : desktop is owned by ubuntu, slackware+redhat = servers08:40
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NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, yea? already?08:40
k-0tikyea excellent package sysstem and easy to setup and amdminister, but its easy of use doesn't come witha price. it's still capable of advaanced thigns08:40
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : but check the most popular distribution is slackware on freshmeat.net08:40
TalkyCan anyone let me know why am not being able to run linmodem in ubuntu?08:41
NegativePlazmahmm08:41
k-0tiklsuactiafner the most popular linux distrubution is slackware?08:41
lsuactiafneryeh ubuntu puts effort into getting rid of minor annoyences that will make desktop users insane08:41
HappyFoolTalky: what modem is it ?08:41
lsuactiafnerk-0tik : on freshmeat.net08:41
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Talkyconexant08:41
TalkyHappyFool08:41
NegativePlazmadistrowatch says ubuntu is the most popular, i have used slack most succesfully in the past as a small desktop/server, im just trying to get used to ubuntu as a desktop08:41
fdrlsuactiafner: actually I made a clustered fileserver out of ubuntu, and it worked very well08:41
HappyFoolTalky: hmm. you can get a slow, free driver for that modem08:41
Talkyyeah i did08:42
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Talkybut its not working08:42
Talkysomething is wrong :(08:42
Talkydunno what08:42
NegativePlazmai dunno if its just ive been out of the using linux for so long or what,08:42
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HappyFoolTalky: how have you installed it?08:42
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : ubuntu does a shitload of things automatically that really made me angry, like ntpdate, but after you get rid of eyecandy (that most ppl prefer) ect you can make ubuntu work for you with less effort than making slackware work for you08:42
sanketmedhiubotu, env08:42
ubotusanketmedhi: Syntax error in line 108:42
Talkyyes HappyFool08:42
Talkyfrom linuxant.com08:42
lsuactiafnerin slackware you need to add features, for ubuntu i removed features..08:42
HappyFoolTalky: 'yes' is not really an answer to 'how' ;)08:43
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, one thing i didnt like that ubuntu out of the box install didnt come with gcc.. but apt took care of it in no time08:43
prolsdhmm, is there a partition magic like tool to resize partitions with for ubuntu?08:43
puffcevizoglu: Hm, what processes are good candidates for disabling?08:43
Talkybut its not working i have a generated a log file using plog command, HappyFool08:43
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HappyFoolTalky: so the module loads, and you hear noises when it dials?08:44
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : also annoyed me, since i'm to linux08:44
fdrNegativePlazma: tried apt-get install build-essential ? it's a dependency to all the interesting stuff08:44
Talkyyes i a short sounds08:44
|exec|what can i do when my firefox menu-fontsize (e.g. file, edit,etc.) is to small ? (kubuntu(08:44
lsuactiafnerbut newbs from windows wont know about gcc...08:44
Talkyyes i hear a short sound08:44
Bad_Magicanyone know if there is a package with the C++ standard library documentation?08:44
TalkyHappyFool08:44
lsuactiafnerso to them its something they will never miss..08:44
NegativePlazmafdr no i didnt,, i was told that ubuntuguide.com is wrong in a lot of ways, so i was scared to try reading it08:44
MacaveliMCCan someone help me with installing Plugger?08:44
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HappyFoolTalky: hmm. i'm not sure i can really help, but can you put the log-file up at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?08:45
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lsuactiafnerbut am still of the opinion there should be a 2nd cd with development tools, like slackware had gnome+kde on a 2nd cd with development tools on cd108:45
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, yea thats true, but when i started linux all I knew was how to compile from source, i had no clue of binaries so08:45
fdrNegativePlazma : and who said anything about ubuntuguide?08:45
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : and having gcc is good since not everyone has access to the internet..08:45
NegativePlazmafdr, noone directly, i was just mentioning that as a possible good resource?08:45
lsuactiafnerdownloading 850mb development tools took me ages.08:46
Talkybtw what country would need to select !, HappyFool08:46
cevizoglulsuactiafner: I prefer downloading updates to carrying a bunch of CD's around08:46
AnswerHappyFool: echo $? still shows return value 0 when scp fails08:46
lsuactiafnerbut there ppl can have a good argument that i dont need it08:46
MacaveliMCCan someone help me with installing Plugger?08:46
Talkyit asks for me to select it, HappyFool08:46
lsuactiafnercevizoglu : i'm on a 3k/s dailup08:46
fdrNegativePlazma: build-essential is just a package that depends on gcc and almost everything you need for compiling08:46
pescocevizoglu: You use a Powerbook? I tried the Live CD today and sleep mode didn't work at first. Have you had the same problem?08:46
HappyFoolTalky: whatever country you're in now, i presume08:46
NegativePlazmafdr, oh yea? so if i just apt-get install bulid essential it would install gcc and other things for me?08:46
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : in the end it depends on what is best suited for you, every distribution has a ninche market.08:46
HappyFoolAnswer: hmm. standby08:46
Talkyic08:46
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, yea thats true.. soo many distros theese days08:47
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cevizoglupesco: I'm not using the livecd, but I've had some trouble with sleep08:47
bitmastrohi08:47
pescocevizoglu: Specifically?08:47
NegativePlazma guess i want to be cool and tell the world that i can use ubuntu lol08:47
AnswerHappyFool: I was wrong, scp does return 0.  I was printing the return value of the echo commands08:47
cevizoglupesco: there are a few problems with the kernel and some unruly processes which can get in the way08:47
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : yeh, apt-get build-dep package also works nicely08:47
k-0tiksweet breezy badger on october 1308:47
Talkyi did but its not working :(08:47
fdrNegativePlazma: definitely yes08:47
HappyFoolAnswer: you can test with 'false; echo $?'08:47
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : apt-get build-dep mplayer so you can get the CVS instead ect08:47
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, so can i compile a new kernel from source as well? or do i have to get it through apt08:47
MacaveliMCActually could someone help me with installing stuff on linux in general, cuz i'm close to clueless08:47
cevizoglupesco: I think sleep started working when ubuntu auto-updated itself08:48
k-0tiktheres a nice tutorial on installing gmplayer and all codecs08:48
k-0tikworked perfectly08:48
k-0tikon the ubuntu forums08:48
pescocevizoglu: I poked around in /proc/pmu a bit (basically I did cat /proc/pmu/options) and later restarted pbbuttonsd. Then it worked.08:48
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : there is apt kernels08:48
cevizoglupesco: sounds vaguely familiar08:48
AnswerHappyFool: In the script, how do I redirect stderr?  I have    scp file.txt <dest> > /dev/null08:48
MacaveliMCdo u have a link k-Otik?08:48
HappyFool!tell MacaveliMC about Synaptic08:48
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lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : i prefer making my own kernel+nvidia+mplayer+firefox support still08:48
pescocevizoglu: Hell, I'll surely figure it out once I have it installed.08:48
HappyFoolAnswer: command 1> /place/for/stdout 2> /place/for/stderr08:49
Bad_Magicanyone know if there is a package with the C++ standard library documentation? or where I can download it?08:49
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, so you compile your kernel from source?08:49
pescocevizoglu: Are you also plagued by the unavailability of Airport Extreme drivers?08:49
lsuactiafnerNegativePlazma : always08:49
HappyFoolBad_Magic: maybe libstdc++6-doc ?08:49
AnswerHappyFool:  To do both 1&2> ?08:49
cevizoglupesco: I haven't had any trouble since the last update08:49
TalkyHappyFool08:49
pescocevizoglu: That's good to hear.08:49
Talkyi pasted the log to paste bin08:49
HappyFoolAnswer: um, i think it's &> or maybe >& (can never remember which)08:49
Talkywhat next?08:49
cevizoglupesco: are you running breezy?08:49
HappyFoolTalky: ok, i'll look in a second08:49
HappyFoolAnswer: as in 'command &> /place/for/both'08:49
pescocevizoglu: I will be running breezy.08:49
bitmastroanyone knows if the timerhack patch will be in the kernel before the freeze?08:49
NegativePlazmalsuactiafner, oh good, cuz that is all i know how to do kernel wise, i was scared i wouldn't be able to08:50
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lsuactiafnerwell i need to go study08:50
lsuactiafnerbbl08:50
MacaveliMCCan anyone help me with installing in general?08:50
HappyFoolTalky: next time use your irc nick to id your paste ;)08:50
NegativePlazmawell i might just reinstall ubuntu on my vmware when i get home, no big deal though, try adn try again08:51
Talkyok :) HappyFool08:51
bitmastroMacaveliMC: what's the problem?08:51
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HappyFoolTalky: hmm. i'm not sure what that 'alarm' on line 25 means08:53
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HappyFoolTalky: have you setup you ISP phone number, etc?08:53
fredforfaendo anybody here know how to change the mouse pointer theme?08:53
Talkyyes i did08:53
stimpieDoes someone knwo a tool to convert source code to html?08:53
TalkyHappyFool08:54
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VoXstimpie: source code in what language, to do what.08:54
Talkyits in default connection setting name 'provider', HappyFool08:54
Talkyalso i don't what protocol to use PAP or CHAT08:55
stimpiecode in c/c++ and vrml to html08:55
HappyFoolstimpie: maybe enscript ?08:55
stimpieIf possible with syntax coloring08:55
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k-0tikanybody get wine working on ubuntu?08:55
HappyFoolTalky: your isp can tell you which08:55
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HappyFoolTalky: it looks like it isn't dialing though08:55
k-0tiki see a tutorial on the forums wonding if it works08:56
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VoXstimpie: i doubt anything like it exists, apart from pasting the code into a simple html page08:56
dmkfredforfaen, what version of ubuntu are you using? if hoary look for gcursor08:56
cevizogluwhat's the best video editor for linux?08:56
HappyFoolTalky: there's no ATDT 5551234 (or whatever your ISP's number is)08:56
bitmastro!patch08:56
ubotubitmastro: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:56
_GoRDoN_Does anybody know where I can download modem drivers(TeleWell)?08:56
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dmkfredforfaen, I can remember what repos it is in08:56
infinitoanyone knows an app to record sound from "what you hear"??08:57
erUSULstimpack, http://www.palfrader.org/code2html/08:57
HappyFoolcevizoglu: /. has a link to a video editor on its front-page (cinelerra, i think it's called)08:57
Talkyonce it showed that too but then the log said tha it except something like connect msg and then it failed08:57
stimpiecevizoglu, Cinelerra08:57
cevizogluHappyFool: I'm looking for something in universe or multiverse or main, etc.08:57
dmkfredforfaen, if breezy install in ~/.icons/ and then you can select from the mouse thing (I think - it should work in theory)08:58
Talkyis there some timeout setting fro connect msg. HappyFool08:58
stimpieerUSUL, thanks thats it08:58
HappyFoolTalky: i'm not sure, but presumably (that may be what that 'alarm' is)08:58
Talkyok HappyFool08:59
fredforfaendmk thanx ill try that , but now im on hoary with fluxbox08:59
HappyFoolTalky: sorry, i'm not being much help; i'm not familiar with the conexant modems08:59
thehilwhat does fscanf(fd,"%[^\n] ",str) mean?08:59
HappyFoolthehil: maybe ask in #c ?09:00
cevizogluthehil: this isn't #c or #c++09:00
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airoxHi. Is there any php5-mcrypt package ?09:00
turkey_joecan anyone tell me what this means "Beagle Daemon exited with errors."09:00
LasseLdrobbins, like the gentoo founder ? :)09:00
drobbinsyep09:00
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LasseLcool09:01
LasseLnice work, though I am a happy convert now09:01
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reiki_workturkey_joe: means the dog got out but left you a "present"09:02
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LasseLdrobbins, researching ubuntu?09:02
bitmastroanyone using breezy has problem with video playback?09:02
drobbinsnot currently09:02
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airoxIs installing beagle much effort ?09:03
reiki_workturkey_joe: is this on Breezy?09:03
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SymGeosisbitmastro, I have problems with DVDs but I had that on Hoary too.09:04
dmkfredforfaen, installing in ~/.icons should help but not sure about setting cursor09:04
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dmkwill load up fluxbox and give it a whirl09:04
HappyFool!tell airox about beagle09:05
sanderhi.. I got two network interfaces.. one wlan. and a normal one.. but when both of them is enabled.. it all fucks up09:05
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bitmastroit's strang, but the extmod module makes kde or gnome quit09:05
LasseLdrobbins, tell you boss to pay us no heed, we don't mean to take over the world :)09:05
sanderhow can I make sure one of them is disabled?09:05
sanderit seems like something enables them all the time09:05
airoxHappyFool: thanks.09:05
bitmastrosander: ifconfig eth0 down09:05
SymGeosis!tell SymGeossi about beagle09:06
airoxHappyFool: Can I use this howto when I am on Breezy Preview ?09:06
sanderbitmastro, yes.. I do that. but after a while.. its enabled again09:06
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HappyFoolairox: no. i thought breezy would have an apt-gettable beagle?09:06
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Milan-NLMy installation stops at Primary Installation Respository..!! After an half our it's still there..09:06
airoxHappyFool: it does ? :D09:06
HappyFoolairox: i'm not on breezy, so i don't know09:07
airoxOk.09:07
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airoxLet me try this.09:07
HappyFoolairox: try 'sudo aptitude install beagle' and see what happens09:07
vladuz976when you upgrade to breezy can you still use the hoary CD?09:07
airoxyups apt-cache found it09:07
HappyFoolvladuz976: as a coaster, probably09:07
J`Installed amaroK, but it doesnt play anything; It loaded playlist. Then said that the [sound card]  device is busy (i was running built in Music Player) and that it sets it to null. [maybe thats the reason ..] . How can I configure anarok?09:07
vladuz976HappyFool, yeah that,too. but sometimes apt ask for the hoary cd09:07
drobbinsLasseL: OK09:08
vladuz976HappyFool, if it then asks for the breezy CD, i won't have it09:08
HappyFoolvladuz976: hmm. i would guess something is wrong in that case, but i'm not sure09:08
Milan-NLWhere else can i have good support for linux?09:08
dmkfredforfaen, you could try xsetroot -cursor_name <cursor_name) in setup script09:08
vladuz976HappyFool, no no. doesn't your apt sometimes ask for the hoary CD?09:08
dmkfredforfaen, not got flux on this machine and cant be bothered installing09:09
HappyFoolJ`: i think you need to tell it to use esdsink09:09
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HappyFoolvladuz976: yeah, but i'm running hoary09:09
GatoLokohi09:09
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vladuz976HappyFool, yeah me too, and i installed hoary from the cd image i downloaded. but when i upgrade to breezy i won't have that cd image for breezy, you know what i mean?09:09
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HappyFoolvladuz976: i think you can download the latest breezy preview and use that as an install CD -- is that what you want?09:10
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J`HappyFool, i cannot find where to do it. And do I always set up smth non-default in ubuntu ?09:11
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HappyFoolJ`: no, it's because amarok is a kde application09:11
k-0tikim in the processes of downloading wine09:12
k-0tikgunna see if i can instal lthat09:12
HappyFoolJ`: if you were using kubuntu, it would presumably Just Work09:12
tarawsa33Hi all! anyone know how to speed up cd-r burning to the proper speeds on ubuntu... I used to get good speeds before moving to ubuntu... now i get about 5x of the 40x it should be.. Is it some "DMA" thing or is that not related?09:12
HappyFoolJ`: maybe ask in #kubuntu or in #amarok where that setting is09:12
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J`HappyFool, thanks again.09:13
Bad_Magichappy: thanks for that package and the path thing earlier =)09:13
SymGeosisAnybody have any luck with comiling a kernel from the default config in Breezy?09:13
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bitmastroi compiled the 2.6.13 yesterday09:13
HappyFooltarawsa33: could be. try 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/cdrw' to see what the DMA setting is09:14
SymGeosisbitmastro, you didn't have to modify anything in the makefile or .config?09:14
BjerrkHi. I've installed my nvidia drivers and the nvidia-settings package. My problem is that if i change any of the settings in the nvidia-settings program, they reset at reboot, and i have to run nvidia-settings again. thanks in advance.09:14
bitmastronow i'm gonna compile that agin09:14
bitmastrono i dind't modify anything09:14
tarawsa33Thanks happy!!09:14
tarawsa33ill try!09:14
SymGeosisbitmastro, well then ist sucks to be me I guess.09:14
robotgeekbitmastro: then why did you compile your own?09:14
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bitmastromy clock is going double spee09:14
bitmastrodouble speed09:15
HappyFool!tell tarawsa33 about dma09:15
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SymGeosisbitmastro, that's why I want to compile my own, plus 200m ATI drivers don't seem to like my current kernel.09:15
robotgeekbitmastro: hmm, i dunno what u are talking about :)09:15
bitmastroSymGeosis: we're in the sam boat09:15
tarawsa33Happy: using_dma    =  0 (off) --- i guess i need that on right?09:15
HappyFooltarawsa33: i'm not sure, but it's worth a try09:16
bitmastroSymGeosis: right now i'm going for 2.6.13-ck309:16
HappyFooltarawsa33: 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrw'09:16
tarawsa33So my hd gets faster as well? any drawbacks- risks??09:16
bitmastroSymGeosis: plus som timerhack patch09:16
HappyFooltarawsa33: and read the link ubotu sent you to make this setting permanent09:16
HappyFooltarawsa33: i'm not sure; i don't think there are any drawbacks09:16
SymGeosisbitmastro, you can fix the timerhack issue on x86 by passing noapic to the kernel from GRUB.09:16
SymGeosisbitmastro, no need to patch anything for that.09:17
bitmastroSymGeosis: i know, but then the network stops working :-(09:17
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_kurtis there any particular reason I cannot use nautilus to create folders in an nfs share? It can be done so through a terminal, but not nautilus.09:17
SymGeosisbitmastro, strange. It works on mine. *shrugs*09:17
tarawsa33Thanks ill try to burn a cd and get back with results...09:17
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bitmastroSymGeosis: if i pass the noapic the dhcp discover stops09:18
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SymGeosisbitmastro, I beg to differ. I am currently on IRC. ;-)09:18
SymGeosisbitmastro, of course, I modified DHCP.conf a bit...09:19
bipolargrrr.... all that talk about me knowing how to get the radeon driver to work... It's not working. :P09:19
bitmastroSymGeosis: how?09:19
bitmastroSymGeosis: larger timeout?09:19
bipolarDirect Rendering, yes.09:19
SymGeosisbitmastro, just a sec. Let me bring up the config file...09:19
bipolarbut nothing else.09:19
k-0tikdoes anybody know how to solve this problem?09:19
k-0tikThe source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.09:19
k-0tikYou should remove the source tree and extract it again as a normal user.09:19
sanderhmm... any reason a wireless network just shuts down. when you dont use it for 1-2 min09:19
bipolarand glxgears wont even tell me what it's FPS is. Does anyone else have that problem in breezy?09:20
k-0tiki downloaded the cvs stuff as root, can't install as root and neither has reg user09:20
sanderseems like it finds out i'm inactive.. and stops the network09:20
vladuz976can someone help me?  i am getting depencies problems updating with apt09:20
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SymGeosisbitmastro, on this line: "domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name" I deleted everything except "host-name"09:20
bitmastrobipolar: me too with radeon xpress 20009:20
HappyFoolk-0tik: try changing the ownership of the directory to your user09:20
mlopeshi. when I boot ubuntu breezy, it hangs for about 30 seconds (timeout?) at * Configuring network devices09:20
cevizoglu!ask09:21
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k-0tiki tryed chmod 77709:21
k-0tikddn't work09:21
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HappyFoolk-0tik: something like 'sudo chown -R kotik.kotik wine' (-R is for recursive)09:21
GatoLokobigme the new version of glxgears dont tell you de fps until you pas a parameter in the comand line09:21
SymGeosisbitmastro, that is for the dhclient.conf09:21
bitmastroSymGeosis: but are you using wifi or ethernet?09:21
GatoLokoups09:21
mlopesit started to happen after I configure ipw2200.. how can I disable it at boot or reduce the timeout?09:21
GatoLokobipolar  the new version of glxgears dont tell you de fps until you pas a parameter in the comand line09:21
SymGeosisbitmastro, ethernet. Haven't tried wi-fi on this yet.09:21
Bjerrkany ideas as for my nvidia problem?09:21
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bipolarGatoLoko, whats the param? there is no man page.09:22
GatoLokoglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark09:23
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bipolarGatoLoko, hahaha09:23
bipolar15533 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3106.486 FPS09:23
bipolarhmmm... better then I thought.09:23
k-0tikhappyfool, thanks just changed the ownership09:23
bipolarI guess they are moving so fast that they just look slow. :P09:24
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Bjerrkbipolar: 65716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13143.200 FPS09:24
Bjerrk:D09:24
GatoLokoi have less fps in breezy than in hoary with the same kernel and same nvidia driver :(09:24
robotgeeki am getting about 85 fps, heh!09:24
bitmastroSymGeosis: i'll reboot and tell you... thank for the suggestion. btw, so why you're recompiling?09:24
bipolarBjerrk, what card?09:24
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Bjerrkbipolar: a Nvidia GeforceFX 590009:24
bipolarBjerrk, this is a lowly Radeon 9000 hehe09:25
SymGeosisbitmastro, because I can't get the ATI drivers to load into my current kernel.09:25
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Bjerrkoh...09:25
SymGeosisbitmastro, have you been able to do so?09:25
bitmastroSymGeosis: no09:25
Bjerrkbipolar: do you think you could help me with this little graphics-problem, btw? :D09:25
GatoLoko3185 frames in 5.0 seconds = 636.961 FPS  <--- nvidia fx5200 128mb :(09:25
bipolarBjerrk, maybe. I dunno.09:26
bitmastroSymGeosis: i found some direction i zv6000forums, but it didn't work09:26
SymGeosisbitmastro, at least I'm not alone then. It's "easy" on Hoary (and that is where I found my instructions too)09:26
tarawsa33Thanks happy now i get around 10x ....09:26
SymGeosisbitmastro, but breezy is another matter altogether.09:26
bitmastroSymGeosis: ok, i'll reboot.. maybe i'll come again later09:26
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SymGeosisbitmastro, good luck.09:27
Bjerrkbipolar: the thing is: that if i change any of the settings in the nvidia-settings program, they reset at reboot, and i have to run nvidia-settings again. thanks in advance. I have got the correct drivers installed.09:27
netstarHow do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?09:27
vladuz976do you have to update the nvidia drives everytime you update your kernel?09:27
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bipolarBjerrk, are the settings supposed to be saved in your xorg config?09:30
bipolarBjerrk, I probbly won't be much help since I don't have an nvidia card to test with.09:30
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Bjerrkbipolar: i'd like them to :D. But i don't see any such option :S09:30
netstarHow do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?09:31
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HappyFoolyou might be able to use 'find' and 'dpkg' to do that, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea09:31
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Bjerrkbipolar: is there anything to do, then? :S09:32
GundjahCan anyone help me get this thingy running on usable screen size?09:32
Gundjahxorg.conf:09:32
GundjahSection "Monitor"09:32
GundjahIdentifier"ADI ProVista"09:32
GundjahOption"DPMS"09:32
GundjahHorizSync36-6409:32
GundjahVertRefresh50-10009:32
GundjahEndSection09:32
mlopescome on, doesn't anyone know how to stop wireless from turning on at boot?09:32
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larsrohdinI just read an article on a swedish computer-website, they said that there are security problems with the kernels older than 2.6.13. Is that correct?09:32
Bjerrkmlopes: easy :P09:32
robotgeekmlopes: you can ctrl + c it09:32
GundjahDoesn't go over 1024*768@75Hz09:32
bipolarBjerrk, not really. I'd google for that nvidia-settings prog and try to find out where it stores it's settings09:33
Bjerrkrobotgeek: or remove the scripts09:33
cevizoglularsrohdin: there are security problems with ALL kernels, period09:33
Bjerrkbipolar: will do :)09:33
cevizoglularsrohdin: hence the need for continual updates09:33
mlopesrobotgeek, ctrl + c is a temporary fix.. isn't there another way to do it?09:33
robotgeekmlopes: or if you want to remove it completely, cd /etc/init.d09:33
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Bjerrkmlopes: i just told you :D09:33
robotgeekmlopes: sudo update-rc.d remove networking09:33
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cevizoglurobotgeek: I determined my wireless card isn't supported, I'm getting another which matches the FCC ID exactly09:33
mlopesBjerrk, where? didn't see it09:34
occyodd, I had this setup before to allow me to do this without putting in password and it's no longer working:09:34
larsrohdincevizoglu, ok but they said that it was urgent to upgrade instantly to a newer kernel than 2.6.13... I have 2.6.10-5... does apt-get update/upgrade take care of it?09:34
occyoctober ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod09:34
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robotgeekcevizoglu: ah okay, too bad...we powerbook owners have it tough09:34
Bjerrkmlopes: i told you to remove the init script09:34
Bjerrk:)09:34
mlopesrobotgeek, but I just want to disable the wireless card, not the whole network09:34
netstarHow do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?09:34
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occyit prompts me for my password each time still09:34
mjrlarsrohdin, security fixes are backported onto ubuntu kernels, so if you upgrade those from security.ubuntu.com you should be fine09:34
cevizoglushawarma, stop it, you're making me hungry09:34
larsrohdincevizoglu, it doesn't for me..09:34
robotgeekmlopes: or you can edit /etc/networking/interfaces , and remove auto wlan009:34
mjr(or a mirror)09:34
shawarmacevizoglu: Heh..09:35
mlopesrobotgeek, that seems a good way :-)09:35
robotgeekmlopes: :)09:35
occyoctober ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod   <-- with this line in /etc/sudoers   I should be able to simly type:  sudo modprobe psmouse     and hit enter and have it work.09:35
GundjahCan anyone help me get this thingy running on usable screen size?09:35
Gundjahxorg.conf:09:35
mlopesthis did happen before with a NIC.. So I suppose its only wireless cards' fault :-)09:35
GundjahSection "Monitor"09:35
GundjahIdentifier"ADI ProVista"09:35
GundjahOption"DPMS"09:35
GundjahHorizSync36-6409:35
GundjahVertRefresh50-10009:35
GundjahEndSection09:35
GundjahDoesn't go over 1024*768@75Hz09:35
robotgeekGundjah: don;t paste in here!09:35
mlopess/did/didn't09:35
larsrohdinmjr, so i shouldn't be worried even though I have 2.6.10?09:35
BjerrkGundjah: stop spamming09:35
cevizoglularsrohdin: what's the url for that article09:36
occyGundjah, use pastebin.com please for anything 3 lines or over.09:36
robotgeek!pastebin09:36
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:36
GundjahTnx, always learning news. Won't do it another time. But got your attention :-D09:36
occyGundjah, ;)09:36
robotgeekmlopes: true09:36
occyGundjah, it only takes one time.  hehe09:36
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GundjahSeriously, can anyone figure out what to do with this?09:36
larsrohdincevizoglu, http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200509/13/20050913001529_SOS/20050913001529_SOS.dbp.asp09:36
occyanyone here a guru with sudo ?09:37
mlopesrobotgeek, interfaces doesn't have any line like auto wlan0 or auto eth109:37
robotgeekcevizoglu: try a belkin card (with a ralink chipset)09:37
cevizoglu!tell occy about anyone09:37
occycevizoglu, heh09:37
thenukeoccy: sudo is not that complicated..09:37
thenukeoccy: just ask..09:37
GundjahI know that HW can do better, and I can go to 1280*1024, but only @6009:37
robotgeek!tell occy about sudo09:37
Gundjahwhich kills my eyes09:37
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nfinitep1astikoccy: anyone can be a sudo guru by 'man sudo' =D09:37
thenuke!tell thenuke about anyone09:37
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occyUmm, I asked earlier09:38
Gundjahor what's left about them anyway09:38
occynoone responded :P09:38
occyoctober ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod   <-- with this line in /etc/sudoers   I should be able to simly type:  sudo modprobe psmouse     and hit enter and have it work.09:38
occy:)09:38
robotgeekcevizoglu: you might want to get a ralink based card, i can give the FCC id's and stuff for my belink card09:38
cevizoglurobotgeek: usually people don't post the FCC ID's of their cards on ebay though09:39
nfinitep1astikoccy: seems correct...are you having problems? or just asking if you would encounter a problem?09:39
SymGeosisoccy, though that is horrible for security reasons...09:39
robotgeekcevizoglu: i got mine from fry's for 10 bucks!09:39
occynfinitep1astik, it's still promting me for a password.09:39
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cevizoglurobotgeek: does your card work w/ ppc arch?09:39
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robotgeekcevizoglu: yeah, the drivers are gpl'ed for ralink09:40
cvttyping tutors y'all?09:40
nfinitep1astikoccy: what are you running atm?09:40
GundjahPastebin's bookmarked, so now I can behave :-)09:40
cevizoglurobotgeek: paste it, I much prefer taking things back to reselling them on ebay.  I have two cards to sell now09:40
occyI have a touchpad and want to be able to (like I did before) have F7 disable the touchpad and F8 enable it.  (I've got the keys bound and setup in gconf)09:40
occynfinitep1astik, hoary09:40
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cvti had a typing tutor installed and now it doesn't work.  help me?09:40
robotgeekcevizoglu: gotta go offline to pull out the card, brb09:41
occyI just did a complete re-install  of hoary and then apt-get upgraded09:41
occylong story as to why I had to re-install.09:41
occyheh09:41
MadeyeHiddenFly, guys, it seems xsane is not able to see the scanner after upgrading to breezy, any suggestions?09:41
SymGeosisMadeye, what scanner do you have?09:41
vladuz976who puts all the packaging stuff togher for ubuntu?09:42
ElBaronooccy: what does 'sudo -l' return09:42
zaacchey everyone, I have a 233 mhz here with 64mb of ram, when i try installing Ubuntu i get a Debootstrap Error, can anyone help me out with this? like give any suggestions what i should try do so that i can install Ubuntu successfully09:42
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cevizogluvladuz976: the motu09:42
MadeyeSymGeosis, epson perfection 61009:42
vladuz976cevizoglu, what is that09:42
occyhttp://pastebin.com/36282909:42
SymGeosisMadeye, you still have the drivers for that installed?09:42
GundjahShoosh... I thought I'm running on low-spec machine...09:42
occyElBarono, --^09:42
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tarawsa33anyone know how to unpack .cab files in linux?09:43
cevizogluvladuz976: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember09:43
MadeyeSymGeosis,  actually I don't remember if I installed a driver for it, on warty and hoary I just installed xsane and it was able to recognize it09:43
SymGeosisMadeye, and have you tried starting Xsane via sudo? It may simply be a permissions thing.09:43
cevizoglu!motu is the Masters of the Universe09:44
ubotu...but motu is already something else...09:44
cevizoglu!motu09:44
ubotumotu are the Masters of the Universe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)09:44
MadeyeSymGeosis,  ah, well it's working now, How can I fix the permission issue?09:44
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GatoLokotarawsa33 cabextract is the tool you need09:44
Gundjahtarawsa33 - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php&ei=-isnQ-aoFKqsQbu40NAI09:44
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cevizoglutold by the bot09:44
vladuz976cevizoglu, doesn't say motu in ther09:44
cevizogluvladuz976: I didn't say it did09:44
vladuz976cevizoglu, so what is motu then?09:45
cevizogluvladuz976: the link I gave is where you would go to get started.  the motu are the package maintainers09:45
Gundjahtarawsa33 - sorry, http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php09:45
occyElBarono, http://pastebin.com/362829   (don't know if you saw it earlier)09:45
vladuz976cevizoglu, and they are employed or volunteers?09:45
ElBaronooccy: you might need to put the entire command in sudoers09:45
ElBaronoi.e., '/sbin/modprobe usbmouse'09:46
SymGeosisMadeye, find out what device it is in /dev and chmod it to 777 or something similar I'd guess. You could give the ubuntu wiki a look. It has some great info.09:46
occyahhh09:46
ElBaronoI'm not sure if by dfault you get to specify whatever arguments you like09:46
occyElBarono, yeah, that is a good point bud09:46
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Alex_BOHELLO!I've a problem with nvu. When I run it, it says "(nvu-bin:10511): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported" and when i try to click over any buttons, it crash.anybody can help me?09:46
cevizogluvladuz976: the link I gave you answers that question09:46
MadeyeSymGeosis, Thank you, I really appreciate your help.09:46
Lethal-RocksHow can I fix 'module usbcore is in use'? It stops me from using my mouse, but it's allways at the terminal09:46
vladuz976cevizoglu, ok thanks09:47
SymGeosisMadeye, np. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I don't have that brand of scanner.09:47
bitmastroSymGeosis: i'm back09:47
SymGeosisbitmastro, how'd it go?09:47
mlopeshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31198&page=2&pp=1009:47
twibblerAlex_bo: can you do a echo $LANG from the command line ...09:47
mlopesfound this.. very explanatory09:47
bitmastroSymGeosis: you're right, but i had to set acpi=off09:47
occyElBarono, it's still prompting for the password09:47
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occy:/09:47
Alex_BOtwibbler, en_US.UTF-809:47
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mlopesshouldn't ifplugd come by default?09:47
occyodd.09:47
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cevizoglurobotgeek: ok09:48
occyElBarono, check this out:  http://occy.net/node/13509:48
SymGeosisbitmastro, interesting, I didn't have to do any such thing. But who knows. *shrugs* Do you think the changes to dhclient.conf made any difference?09:48
occyElBarono, I even documented this before when I had it setup and working.09:48
occyheh09:48
robotgeekcevizoglu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/216109:48
twibblerAlex_BO  run the command (Without quotes) 'export LANG=en_US'09:48
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trigger_phhello. first timer here.09:48
bitmastroSymGeosis: no, but without acpi=off it connected once, but it was slowly09:49
Alex_BOtwibbler, same problem09:49
bitmastroSymGeosis: btw what notebook you're using?09:49
trigger_phCan I please get some assistance on setting desktop resolution? Mine's stuck on 800x600.09:49
occyoh wait09:49
twibblerALex_BO: but your not using UTF as you default language now .... hum .....09:49
Gundjahtrigger - welcome to the club :-)09:49
SymGeosisbitmastro, right after you left I was able to find an old post which I had forgotten about, it offers some more options to pass to the kernel which may help. http://www.zv6000forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=242&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=009:49
robotgeektrigger_ph: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:49
trigger_ph@Gundjah thanks09:50
occyElBarono, let me log out and log back in.  for grins.09:50
SymGeosisbitmastro, HP zv6000.09:50
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bitmastroanyone having problem with radeon xpress 200? SymGeosis: let's go prb09:50
cevizoglurobotgeek: thx, I might just go out and buy one right now  :)09:50
SymGeosisbitmastro, prb?09:50
robotgeekcevizoglu: np09:50
vladuz976should irssi be in apt?09:50
dabarvladuz976: its on your computer by default.09:50
trigger_ph@robotgeek thanks!09:50
vladuz976dabar, ok cool09:51
SymGeosisbitmastro, I'm not familiar with that term.09:51
twibblerAlex_BO: the only thing I can think of is to set your default language in the .profile file to LANG=C ... this should then enable it to work ... you will have to relogin ....09:51
ElBaronooccy: maybe the two lines are interfering with each other09:51
ElBaronothe All = (ALL) ALL and the nopasswd lines09:51
ElBaronotry moving the ALL line after the nopasswd lines09:51
nfinitep1astikvladuz976: yes09:51
dabarok, I am now trying to burn some ubuntu live CDs, and I bought blank cds this morning, and I get an error from nautilus: There was an error writing to the CD:09:51
dabarThe system is too slow to write the CD at this speed. Try a lower speed. Tried twodifferent drives, and two separate instances of cds.09:51
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occyElBarono, no love. :(09:52
ElBarono12:51 < ElBarono> occy: maybe the two lines are interfering with each other09:52
ElBarono12:51 < ElBarono> the All = (ALL) ALL and the nopasswd lines09:52
ElBarono12:51 < ElBarono> try moving the ALL line after the nopasswd lines09:52
Lethal-Rocksdabar, Your HDD is too slow (apparently)09:52
occyElBarono, k09:52
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trigger_phI get a Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available message. I'm using a default install of the Warty release btw.09:52
Alex_BOtwibbler, where i find .profile?09:52
cevizogludabar: try writing the cd at half the speed you are currently using or less, i.e. if it's 24x, burn it at 4x09:52
robotgeektrigger_ph: oh, then try xserver-xfree8609:53
dabarno, its trying to write at maximum possible, I forgot to mention.09:53
twibblerAlex_BO: good ?... on unix its in your main user directory ..... not sure on ubuntu .... I just do a find ...09:53
cevizogludabar: exactly09:53
dabarLethal-Rocks: you know this, or guesing?09:53
dabarLethal-Rocks: good call, likely, tho, cause I am copying something over ftp...09:53
Lethal-RocksWell that's your problem09:53
Lethal-Rockssave it first09:53
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dabarlater.09:53
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Lethal-Rockseww09:53
robotgeekheh09:54
occyElBarono, yer a genious09:54
occyheh09:54
occygenius09:54
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occyElBarono, I guess it's like CSS in that whatever comes later on, it gets read regardless of what is above.09:54
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bytefooanyone know why my network card wouldn't be detected by the breezy installer09:54
bytefoobut would on the hoary installer :X09:54
occyElBarono, didn't need to put in the psmouse part either.09:54
ElBaronocool09:55
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occyElBarono, got a webpage?09:55
occyElBarono, I'll make ya famous!09:55
occy*chuckle*09:55
occyElBarono, just need something to link to.09:55
cuscohi I installed skype and libqt3c102-mt... altho when I type skype in the terminal09:55
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cuscoit doesn't start09:55
twibblerAlex_BO the one I found is in /root/.profile add a line export LANG=C09:55
concept10anyone upgrade from hoary to breezy after the preview release?09:55
GatoLokosomebody has been able to install freepascal + lazarus in breezy?09:55
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cuscoit just prints a empty line09:55
cute_bettonganyone know how to fix the k3b screwing up ICE error09:55
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BjerrkHi. I've written a new script. How do i ensure that it's run at init?09:56
no0ticcan I file a bug about a universe package?09:56
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Madeyeguys, how to find out where in /dev my scanner is, so I can fix permission issue09:56
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ElBaronooccy: flounder.net09:56
occyElBarono, hmmm09:56
Bjerrkin inittab?09:56
occywhy does that sound familiar09:57
Alex_BOtwibbler, i think that's file is the one loaded at root login, but i'm not root09:57
trigger_ph@robotgeek I went through the instructions. Do I need to reload a service or sumthin?09:57
no0ticok, found09:57
cute_bettongso anyone?09:58
ElBaronooccy: qmail-howto?09:58
twibblerAlex_BO: Im just looking where else to set it ... can try from the command line 'export LANG=C' and see if that fixes it first ...09:58
robotgeektrigger_ph: did u add a higher resolution?09:58
trigger_ph@robotgeek Yes, I've added 1024x768 and took out the ones I don't use.09:58
robotgeekElBarono: hey..even i looked at that howto abt 3-4 months back, i think :)09:58
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cute_bettongso anyone know how to fix the k3b screwing up x error in breezy?09:59
robotgeektrigger_ph: just restart X09:59
trigger_ph@robotgeek Awesome. Thanks again bro09:59
cyphaseanyone know of a motherboard that turns the computer on when you type "go on"?09:59
cyphaselol09:59
robotgeekcute_bettong: if it's a problem with ICe authority, try rm -rf .ICEauthority dir09:59
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cyphasemy cousin is sure she saw my other cousin do it with his computer09:59
cevizoglu!anyone09:59
ubotuhmm... anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:59
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cute_bettongum ok type the dir too10:00
robotgeekcute_bettong: ~/.ICEauthority10:00
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cute_bettongok10:00
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G|Patricki cant play any mediafiles except for wave10:01
G|Patrickweired10:01
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G|Patrickit also talks about unspecific missin gplugins10:01
ElBaronorobotgeek: sweet10:01
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ElBaronoit's gotten millions of hits10:01
cevizoglu!tell G|Patrick about restricted10:01
robotgeekElBarono: :)10:02
G|Patrickcevizoglu: ???10:02
Alex_BOI've a problem with this: "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found". Who can write me what package I need?10:02
robotgeekElBarono: hey..u've been to B'lore :)10:02
occyElBarono, I updated the page:  http://occy.net/node/13510:02
occyElBarono, Thanks anyhow for your help!10:02
occy:)10:02
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G|Patrickcevizoglu: i cant play no ogg10:03
G|Patrickno mp310:03
G|Patrickno aac10:03
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bipolaris there a matching linux-kernel-headers for breezy? I've got a mismatch.10:03
cevizogluG|Patrick there is a section there on that10:03
occyG|Patrick, try this:  fuser -k /dev/dsp10:03
occyG|Patrick, as your user.... tell me if you can play after that?10:03
G|Patrickkk10:03
Alex_BOI'VE A PROBLEM with this: "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found". Who can write me what package I need?10:03
occyG|Patrick, I find I have to do that EVERY TIME I REBOOT for some stuipd reason.10:03
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robotgeekbipolar: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`10:04
Dood_SethAlex_BO, have you tried apt-cache search gtk+ ?10:04
occyG|Patrick, once you do the fuser -k /dev/dsp   then try and play an mp3 or ogg.10:04
Alex_BODood_Seth, yes: i fin more of 100 results10:05
_GoRDoN_Does anybody know where I can download drivers for conexant modem? Not Linuxant.10:05
G|Patrickdoesn work10:05
G|Patricksame complain10:05
occyG|Patrick, :(10:05
G|PatrickThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins <-- i have installed almost anything i found10:05
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occyG|Patrick, do you get the Sound when you boot up into Ubuntu?10:05
G|Patrickthats even has a bit in common with mediaplayers10:06
occyG|Patrick, the startup music?10:06
robotgeek!mp310:06
ubotu[mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:06
G|Patrickoccy: systemsounds (wav) work10:06
occyG|Patrick, apt-get install beep-media-player10:06
robotgeekG|Patrick: can u read that link and see if sound works?10:06
occyG|Patrick, it plays mp3 by default.10:06
bipolarrobotgeek, thanks. I don't know why apt-cache was not showing me that package.10:06
Dood_Sethubuntu stole my mkinitrd :-(10:06
occyG|Patrick, and it looks pretty. :)10:06
occyhehe10:06
G|Patrickgsstreamer are installed10:07
Alex_BODood_Seth, have you got any idea?10:07
G|Patrickand totem as well10:07
G|Patrickno change10:07
robotgeekbipolar: just install it, for apt-cache search linux-headers10:07
G|Patrickno success10:07
occyI have not found a single file format that works with totem.10:07
occyTotem isn't configured to play a single farking thing OOtB10:07
robotgeekoccy: totem xine works really well10:07
Dood_SethAlex_BO, not really .. except use synaptic or the package manager to narrow down your choices for install10:07
G|Patrickamarok doesnt do anything too10:07
G|Patrickmplayer10:07
G|Patricknothing10:07
G|Patrickxine10:07
G|Patricknothing10:07
occyI mean, Bastien is a friend of mine (guy who wrote Totem)  but I've never seen it work woth a damn.10:08
occyheh10:08
G|Patrickweired!10:08
Alex_BODood_Seth, well... i think i need GTK engine. but i don't know how is called10:08
occyG|Patrick, Did you try the beep-media-player ?10:08
robotgeekAlex_BO: what are u trying to compile?10:08
Dood_SethAlex_BO, use your gui and and search for GTK ... I'm sure the description will help10:08
prolsdguys10:08
occyprolsd, girls10:08
occyheh10:08
prolsdhow can is see what video driver my ubuntu system currently has installed?10:08
G|Patrickoccy: 1.st removing that totem crap10:09
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bipolarrobotgeek, thanks. It's working now.10:09
G|Patricknow i try ur sugestion10:09
robotgeekbipolar: cool10:09
occyG|Patrick, k10:09
occyG|Patrick, beep-media-player is all I use personally.10:09
G|Patrickhowever... i need a solution that amarok plays music again10:09
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G|Patrickamarok is THE player i have ever seen10:09
occyG|Patrick, http://occy.net/files/ss-AUG_15_2005.png10:09
Alex_BOrobotgeek, nvu10:09
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BjerrkHow do i make sure that a certain script is run at boot?10:10
occyI need to change my desktop up.10:10
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occyit's been the same thing for a whole month10:10
J1mI little while ago, someone told me the name of a gnome initialization script akin to .bashrc or .profile.10:10
occyheh10:10
J1mCould someone please remind me what that was? (sorry)10:11
erUSULprolsd: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver10:11
robotgeekAlex_BO: are u on hoary or on breezy?10:11
Dood_Sethprolsd, more /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Device10:11
robotgeekoccy: nice, what's clearbox?10:11
G|Patrickdoesnt look like a as powerful and intuitiv playlist as amarok has10:11
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prolsdAlright, great10:11
erUSULBjerrk: add the script with update-rc.d10:12
occyrobotgeek, danke.10:12
occyrobotgeek, sec10:12
prolsdworkin' fine.10:12
robotgeekAlex_BO: it's in hoary-backports10:12
BjerrkerUSUL: could you be a little more specific? :)10:13
robotgeekoccy: got it, metacity theme right?10:13
erUSULBjerrk: a better solution is adding a script local with update-rc.d an make the things you want to do there like calling other scripts10:13
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SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, you ever get that stuff with your graphics card figured out? =P10:14
occyrobotgeek, here you go: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2506010:14
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, not totally no10:14
erUSULBjerrk: you make a script  /etc/init.d/local10:14
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, that sucks.10:14
G|Patrickah ok10:14
Bjerrkbut, erUSUL how do you even use update-rc.d?10:15
G|Patrickbeep worx coze i can use alsa output device10:15
occyrobotgeek, ahh, sorry it took so long.  it's a metacity thing.10:15
erUSULBjerrk: then you make it to run at boot time with update-rc.d10:15
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, I have a problem everytime I reboot I have to unplug and replugin my mouse and then I can launch x lol10:15
BjerrkerUSUL: BUT HOW?10:15
G|Patrickisnt 1337 speak a crueality to human mind?10:15
G|Patrick:P10:15
robotgeekoccy: i use openbox, so probably cant use that10:15
G|Patrickwell thx10:15
G|Patrickbut would u help me a thousands time, too :D10:15
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, that's odd. Did you set up the xorg.conf file manually?10:15
G|Patrickamarok + gnome + sound10:15
erUSULBjerrk: run update-rc local defaults10:15
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robotgeekBjerrk: copy ur script to /etc/init.d/10:16
G|Patrickwhere is the problem with that application?10:16
Dood_Sethummm .. am I the only one not able to find mkinitrd ?10:16
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, yep I had to after /dev/input/mice vanished10:16
Bjerrkyeah?10:16
Alex_BOrobotgeek, really???10:16
bimberiJ1m: was it .gnomerc ?10:16
G|Patrickoccy:10:16
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Alex_BOrobotgeek, i'm on hoary.what's its name?10:16
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erUSULBjerrk: run "update-rc.d local defaults" sorry10:16
robotgeekAlex_BO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary-backports/web/nvu10:16
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SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, and apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg or X -configure didn't work?10:17
occyG|Patrick, did that work?10:17
G|Patrickjap10:17
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, its not the fact that x is configured wrong10:17
occyG|Patrick, ;)10:17
occyG|Patrick, beep++10:17
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, that is really... odd.10:17
BjerrkerUSUL: and that's presuming that my script is called local?10:17
occybeep-media-player++10:17
occyheh10:17
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, its the fact that my mouse does not show up right away nor ever unless I just unplug it and replug it in then its no longer /dev/input/mice its /dev/input/mouse010:17
occyI need to recompile Clearbox app10:18
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, couldn't you just add that as a device in your xorg.conf file?10:18
Alex_BOrobotgeek, i love you men!!!10:18
erUSULBjerrk: yes, i have this script named local to tweak /proc and call other scripts at boot time10:18
Bjerrkersthanks :)10:18
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, did that :) but when I reboot it does not exist as /dev/input/mouse0 untill I unplug/plugin the mouse10:18
Bjerrkuh...10:18
J1mbimberi, could be. :)10:18
robotgeekAlex_BO: :)10:18
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, its very odd10:18
G|Patrickoccy: :D10:19
BjerrkerUSUL, thanks10:19
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, least I know what I am doing and fixed that myself with a halfass fix for the time being haha10:19
erUSULBjerrk: you are wellcome10:19
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, why don't you just set them both up as that? Or do I misunderstand you somehow?10:19
Alex_BOrobotgeek, what's its repository?10:19
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, ok when I reboot10:19
robotgeek!backports10:19
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:19
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, you are allowed to set up multiple mice for X.10:19
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s4f3_m0d3what country do the ubuntu cds ship from?10:19
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, /dev/input/mice /dev/input/mouse0 do not exist10:19
occyrobotgeek, http://pastebin.com/36286910:19
naliothSlicerDicer-: netherlands10:20
occyrobotgeek, what do I need to apt-get install to compile that.   I can never figure those things out.10:20
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, no input exists for the mouse at all in /dev10:20
occyheh10:20
SymGeosisAh, I understand now.10:20
s4f3_m0d3nalioth, you mean s4f3_m0d3 ?10:20
SlicerDicer-the only way to get the input to appear is by unplugging and replugging in the mouse and letting hotplug take care of it :)10:20
G|Patrickyeah10:20
G|Patrickxine worx wiht amarok in gnome X-D10:20
G|Patricktrial and error10:20
robotgeekoccy: u trying to compile clearbox?10:20
G|Patricki have much to learn in linux :D10:20
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, did you try dpkg-reconfigure hotplug?10:21
occyrobotgeek, yah, just nuked my system and re-installed10:21
nalioths4f3_m0d3: yes, the netherlands10:21
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, perhaps I will do that10:21
robotgeekoccy: it's an theming engine, right?10:21
s4f3_m0d3nalioth, okay10:21
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, I am in the middle of doing other things at the moment :)10:21
naliothG|Patrick: c'est la vie10:21
occyrobotgeek, naw...  it's an app you have to compile10:21
occyI gotta apt-get install libgtk-dev or some crap10:21
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, I understand. I'm just trying to help you get to the bottom of your problem. =)10:21
occylibgtk2.0-dev10:21
occy?10:21
G|Patrickhi nalioth10:22
G|Patricklong time not seen :D10:22
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SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, its not the end of the world I have exploded my system using breezy hehe hacked and chopped it about making the things I want work more than likely exploded other parts10:22
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robotgeekoccy: :) reading the source file10:23
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naliothG|Patrick: i'm here every day10:23
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occyrobotgeek, that was it, compiling now10:23
robotgeekcool10:23
G|Patrickya... i was not :(10:23
G|Patricki had no time to argue with linux10:23
occycool beans.10:23
occyhehe10:24
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Dood_Sethokay so ubuntu doesn't use mkinitrd .. interesting .. oh well10:24
occyG|Patrick, heh, what are you going on about?10:24
occyG|Patrick, ;)10:24
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, its all in good fun really :)10:24
G|Patrickmake a portfolio, getting a studieng place10:24
robotgeek!start10:24
uboturobotgeek: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:24
G|Patricka week tripp to berlin10:24
G|Patricketc.10:24
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, nothing like testing software on testing platform while testing what you are testing!10:24
occyhehe10:24
occyI love that msg10:24
occy!occy10:24
ubotuoccy: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:24
occyhehe10:24
SlicerDicer-ouch10:25
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, you should try that with ATI hardware with a faulty BIOS, like me. ;-)10:25
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, heh10:25
occy!robotgeek10:25
ubotuoccy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:25
occyok, I'll stop10:25
bitmastro!upower10:25
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, bitmastro10:25
robotgeek!lart occy10:25
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SlicerDicer-!methane emmissions10:25
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, SlicerDicer-10:25
occyhehe10:25
SlicerDicer-haha10:25
nalioth!botabuse10:25
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.10:25
bitmastro!usplash10:25
ubotuusplash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss10:25
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robotgeeksoryy!10:26
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G|Patrickoccy: we have many "new age" windmills here in germany X-D10:26
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, hey thats why I own nvidia :)10:26
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, I would not be caught dead with a ATI on my linux systems *grin*10:27
SymGeosisSlicerDicer-, Yeah. I kinda found that out the hard way.10:27
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BjerrkerUSUL: it didn't wirk :(10:29
Bjerrk*work10:29
s4f3_m0d3bah10:30
SlicerDicer-SymGeosis, although on my mac I use ATI10:30
Bjerrkthough my script is very basic. It just contains one command10:30
s4f3_m0d3shippit screwed up my order10:30
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s4f3_m0d3i asked for 20-20-2010:30
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s4f3_m0d3and i got 60 amd64 cds10:30
s4f3_m0d3wtf10:30
anachronismis it just me or did somebody else also notice strange sounds coming out of the computer (never heard something like that before) when this new usplash-screen is loading/working?10:30
erUSULBjerrk: it works for me... i don't know what can be the problem10:31
EarthenI have a problem with some on ubuntu using my bandwidth how can i find it10:31
Earthensomthing*10:32
BjerrkerUSUL: i just made a script saying:10:32
Bjerrkxgamma -gamma -310:32
Bjerrkbut it refuses to work10:32
Bjerrk(at boot, that is)10:32
erUSULBjerrk: has the script execution bit? chmod +x /etc/init.d/local10:32
anachronismis it marked as executable?10:32
s4f3_m0d3wekk10:32
s4f3_m0d3well10:32
s4f3_m0d3this is magnificient10:32
Bjerrkanachronism: i guess not :D10:32
s4f3_m0d3how am i supposed to install amd64 linux on the ppc machines i needed the cds for?10:33
erUSULBjerrk: the script should look like this:10:33
erUSUL#!/bin/sh10:33
erUSULxgamma -gamma -310:33
Bjerrkoh. and it should be set executable?10:33
Earthenis it possable the ubuntu can get spyware10:33
BjerrkEarthen: how do you define "possible"? :D10:34
BjerrkEarthen: if you write some yourself? ;)10:34
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robotgeek"*/30 * * * root             ~/.metar/metar.py > ~/.metar/metar_status" should run every 30 minutes right?10:34
Earthenwell i have something doing alot of downloading10:34
Earthenlol I think no!10:34
BjerrkEarthen: woudn't spyware rather be uploading?10:34
robotgeeki mean in the crontab entry?10:35
Earthenit is uploading also10:35
Bjerrkhmm... what program is it?10:35
EarthenI don't know10:35
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nalioths4f3_m0d3: what? you install ppc ubuntu on ppc machines10:35
Earthenthats what i need to find out10:35
velEarthen your machine is always on to the internet?10:36
Earthenyes10:36
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Eartheni have this compute setup to share the internet I'm on Satillete connection10:36
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velhm...how much bandwidth?10:36
nakataEarthen, that's pretty cool10:36
Earthenand I can only download so much a day and something as been using up all my quota10:37
Bjerrkshawarma: hej ;)10:37
zaaccsorry could anyone help me, what does the debootstrap error mean?10:37
erUSULBjerrk: yes it shoul be executable and root owned ;)10:37
Earthenwhen it works it is LOL10:37
BjerrkerUSUL: is it important that it is owned by root?10:37
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nakatasorry zaacc10:38
shawarmaBjerrk: Hejsa.10:38
nakatagoogle seems to be pretty specific about that error10:38
test34libwin32 isnt available in synaptic (universe either)?10:39
zaaccaah thanks i've been going over the forums and trying things, nothings been working.. lemme try google10:39
Earthennakata: think you have any idea's10:39
zaaccsorry bout that10:39
Bjerrkshawarma: your hostname is telling on you :P10:39
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erUSULBjerrk: not sure but init script are root job10:39
nakatazaacc, it means debootstrap failed due to an error.10:39
nakatabut first off10:39
erUSULBjerrk: all the scripts in there are owned by root so ...10:39
nakatai missed why you're doing it10:39
shawarmaBjerrk: Yours too. :-P'10:39
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Bjerrkshawarma: indeed10:39
fluoroHi.10:39
nakataEarthen, i'd setup ethereal10:39
nakataEarthen, run it on your outermost point10:40
BjerrkerUSUL: how do i make it executable? by addind the ....bin/sh... line?10:40
fluoroIf I have multiple kernel versions installed from doing an update, how do I tell apt-get to install nvidia-glx for a specific kernel?10:40
nakataEarthen, and i suggest you have a gateway box dedicated to *only* routing10:40
nakataa neutral answer on what's eating the bandwidth; which ports on which boxes10:40
nakatait's probably a spywared windows box10:40
erUSULBjerrk: and then chmod +x <script>10:40
Earthenthis box is dedicated for that reason10:41
fluoroIt keeps installing the nvidia driver to 2.6.10 instead of 2.6.12.10:41
Earthennakata: this box is in a school and I use it to run dan guardian on it10:41
Earthennakata: and squid proxy10:42
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Earthennakata: what is etherreal?10:42
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naliothEarthen: it's a packet sniffer10:43
fluoroCan anyone help me get this nvidia driver installed for the correct kernel?10:43
naliothEarthen: and analyzer10:43
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Earthenethereal: i'm downloading it now10:43
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lsuactiafnerflodine : sh NVIDIA-whatever10:44
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bur[n] er!tell fluoro about nvidia10:44
fluoro?10:45
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rob_pEarthen:  Tcpdump is another packet sniffer but it's command line driven.  If it's a dedicated gateway box, and you remotely manage it via a shell, tcpdump might be a better option.10:45
bur[n] erfluoro: you got a message from ubotu10:45
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fluoroI did?  I didn't see anything.10:45
bur[n] erfluoro: you did10:45
bur[n] er!nvidia10:46
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:46
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bur[n] erfluoro: links is better10:46
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bur[n] erfluoro: you have a new window in irssi with the ubotu message10:46
bur[n] ertry "ctrl+n" & "ctrl+p"10:47
naliothfluoro: try links210:47
bur[n] eroh yeah... links2 is even better than links10:47
fluorobur[n] er: Thanks.  I didn't know how to see other windows in irssi.10:47
naliothbur[n] er: those commands scroll up and down10:47
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ninjafishsince when has this channel been +r?10:47
naliothfluoro: try ctrl-(red number in the blue bar)10:48
naliothninjafish: since the bots wont leave it alone10:48
shadeofgreyhey everybody...  was wondering something about the newest ubuntuliveCD10:48
bur[n] ernalioth: for me... ctrl+p and ctrl+n switch between windows10:48
naliothbur[n] er: wow. for me they scroll up and down10:48
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bur[n] erwhat term?10:48
fluoroFeh.  links2 doesn't support SSL.10:48
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bur[n] erit works the same in aterm, gnome-terminal too though10:48
bur[n] erand in putty over ssh10:48
pestilencei just installed vncserver (after upgrading from hoary to breezy with persistent home directories and nothing else), and i get this error:  failed to set default font path ''...anybody know the solution?10:48
anyonepestilence, freenx =)10:49
bur[n] erpestilence: edit your xorg.conf and comment out the last two font paths :)10:49
pestilencewhen i point it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf i get a whole new batch of errors.10:49
pestilenceanyone: thought about it.  not sure how much effort that is.10:49
bur[n] erpestilence: you know vnc server does virtual desktops... not the currently shown one right?10:49
fluoroHowever.. heh.. lynx opens that page just fine.10:49
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pestilencebur[n] er: yes, i have used vnc pretty heavily10:49
pestilencebur[n] er: it worked fine in hoary.10:49
AnswerQuestion: Anybody fixed a laptop battery meter on a gateway?10:49
bur[n] erpestilence: just making sure ;)  a lot of people expect it to work like vino does with the current display10:50
Lethal-RocksDoes anyone know andy good single-window multi-torrent BT Clients?10:50
naliothfluoro: it does if you compile it in10:50
bur[n] er#       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"10:50
bur[n] er#       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"10:50
bur[n] ercomment those lines in your xorg.conf pestilence and try it again10:50
fluoroAnd this page is totally useless and doesn't answer my question.  It just says how to get the nvidia driver using Synaptic (which I can't use since X isn't working, but I got nvidia-glx using apt-get)10:50
bur[n] erthat's what I had to do10:50
AnswerQuestion: which is better, VNC, FreeNX, vine, or other competitors?10:51
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fluoroThe question is how to get nvidia-glx to work with the latest kernel in my system.  It's installing it to the wrong kernel.10:51
naliothLethal-Rocks: i have a cheat for you. console bittornado + "gnu screen"10:51
bur[n] erfluoro: apt-get install is synonymous with X10:51
rob_pAnswer:  What's wrong with the battery meter?10:51
pestilencebur[n] er: strange.10:51
bur[n] erer... synonymous with synaptic rather10:51
bur[n] erLethal-Rocks: gnome-bittorrent ?10:51
pestilencebur[n] er: i commented out this10:51
pestilence#   FontPath    "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"10:51
pestilence#   FontPath    "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"10:51
Lethal-RocksOk then nalioth I'll get BitTornado and try that10:52
Answerrob_p: it always thinks it's on battery power, even when plugged in, and when unplugged it sometimes says 0% inaccurately10:52
bur[n] erpestilence: yeah, i lied when I said the last two ;)  my bad10:52
pestilenceand that seemed to fix it.  (and i had to point /etc/vnc.conf towards my xorg.conf10:52
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bur[n] eroh... right on10:52
ttyS0i was trying to start partition magic after reboot from CD but it says smth like "Error; Can't read partition labels". I've already set labels with `tune2fs` but it's still has that error. anybody knows waht to do? :)10:52
pestilencebur[n] er: maybe this needs to be documented someplace.10:52
netstarWhere is mkinitrd, or more to the point where can I get it?10:52
rob_pAnswer:  Sounds like buggy software to me.10:52
erUSULfluoro: maybe you can not do that. i see precompiled only for 2.6.1010:52
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bur[n] erpestilence: wiki seems like a good place somewheres?  or maybe bugzilla?10:52
fluoroerUSUL: Ugh. Bummer.  So it's broken for Breezy I guess?10:53
Answerrob_p: on my other laptop it always says "Running on AC Power, System battery not present"  even when its unplugged10:53
Earthenrob_p: thanks for the infoI have actully installed the gui on this machine since i was new to linux I found it easer to get help with haveing a working browser  so i do have a gui until such time i feel i can operate with command line only10:53
luckyhi, does ubuntu support installation to software raid in its default setup utility?10:53
erUSULyou have the module in source code though10:53
naliothLethal-Rocks: you can read about screen here http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html10:53
bur[n] eri bug reported it, but more as a problem with 'xtightvncviewer -listen'10:53
Answerlucky: yes, the install cd will allow you to partition for software RAID10:53
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fluoroerUSUL: Is there an apt-get or dpkg way to build it from that source package?10:53
erUSULfluoro: sorry i'm talking about hoary :(10:53
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r0mhow can i install *deb  ?10:53
luckyAnswer: ok, thanks :)10:53
rob_pAnswer:  That's odd!  Maybe the hardware detection circuit is hosed.10:53
bur[n] err0m: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb10:54
mcphaillucky: there are problems with software RAID10:54
fluoroerUSUL: Yeah, I just tried to do the breezy update and it updated kernel to 2.6.12 but I think it didn't update nvidia-glx.10:54
Lethal-Rocksr0m, sudo spkg --install *.deb10:54
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Lethal-Rocksdpkg*10:54
naliothfluoro: what are you wanting to install?10:54
gilligan_hi10:54
pestilencebur[n] er: apparently it affects the vncserver package as well10:54
Answerlucky: you should write down exactly how you are going to partition before beginning the raid install10:54
fluoronalioth: nvidia-glx, but install it for my kernel 2.6.12.10:54
naliothfluoro: ah, well good luck10:54
bur[n] erpestilence: you can tack it on my bug report or create your own?10:54
fluoronalioth: It is installing only for 2.6.10, but I did the Breezy update and it installed 2.6.12.10:54
Lethal-RocksWhat do I need to make Rhythmbox play MP3 and M4A's?10:54
naliothfluoro: breezy is still in developement, keep that in mind10:54
rob_pAnswer:  Unfortunately, without the proper documentation and schematics, that could be difficult to track down!10:55
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bur[n] erpestilence: odd thing is... it was only related to using gnome for me... worked fine in xfce10:55
gilligan_I just upgraded to breezy and X fails to start because "could not open default font 'fixed'" -- could someone tell me how to fix this ?10:55
fluoronalioth: Yeah, I know.10:55
ZeroblitztIs there a way to switch to the Breezy preview release through synaptic? (like I did with Warty -> Hoary, I just changed all the repository names and stuff to "Hoary")10:55
pestilencebur[n] er: i couldn't get gnome or xfce to work :-/10:55
erUSUL!tell Lethal-Rocks about mp310:55
fluoronalioth: Is there a dpkg or apt-get way to build nvidia-glx from the source package?10:55
bur[n] erZeroblitzt: same way10:55
pestilencebur[n] er: without making your suggested modification10:55
Zeroblitztok10:55
Answerrob_p: is there any alternative power meter or update or anything??10:55
bur[n] erpestilence: can you make a bug report?10:55
ZeroblitztDo you suggest moving to Breezy? the reason I ask is because I can't get sound working anymore for some reason, and its only 1 month until its release anyway10:55
bur[n] erpestilence: or see if it's there and provide the workaround for them10:56
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moparfan90hello. whats a good free game that i can play? maybe online?10:56
moparfan90for linux10:56
rob_pAnswer:  No.  Because the hardware has to be functioning properly in order for ANY software to read it and display useable results.10:56
bur[n] erZeroblitzt: if you have no troubleshooting skills, don't do it10:56
Answermoparfan90: what kind of games do u like10:56
moparfan90first person shotteer10:57
pestilencebur[n] er: i checked bugzilla.  is malone a different system altogether?10:57
Zeroblitztok10:57
mcphaillucky: concering software RAID, you may wish to read http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494410:57
moparfan90mostly10:57
bur[n] erpestilence: bugs.ubuntu.com ?10:57
Answermoparfan90: what fps have u played before and enjoyed that you cant get to work on linux?10:57
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erUSULmoparfan90: try Enemy Territory10:57
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naliothfluoro: yes. apt can build pkgs, but you need to have the source available10:57
moparfan90i like half life 2 alot and counter strike source10:57
moparfan90alot!!10:58
pestilencebur[n] er: where is your bug listed?  i can't find it10:58
luckydoes ubuntu have a net-install boot CD, so i can just download the software i want from the net  rather than gnome and all the junk i don't want at the moment?10:58
bur[n] erpestilence: I misspoke... it's #       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"10:58
bur[n] er#       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"10:58
rob_pAnswer:  However, if for some reason your software has stopped working (maybe because of a driver update, etc.) and assuming that your hardware is not broken, then maybe you could find an updated software patch from the vendor.10:58
bur[n] erdoh... bugzilla.ubuntu.com <--search for xtightvncviewer and you'll see it10:58
bur[n] er(i think ;)10:58
moparfan90erUSUL, thats a old game tho10:58
anyonelucky, other than base server install?10:58
luckyanyone, what do you mean?10:59
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bur[n] erpestilence: odd, i don't see my bug anymore :\  maybe someone closed it10:59
anyoneif you type server at boot prompt with reg install cd it installs without alot of pkgs no desktop etc10:59
luckyi don't have a regular CD11:00
luckyand i can't download it.11:00
pestilencebur[n] er: it's still there:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1084511:00
erUSULmoparfan90: well Valve has no intentions of release half life for linux so ... thanks carmack for his efforts11:00
pestilencebur[n] er: but it is resolved.11:00
erUSUL;)11:00
paxmasterdid some one use fsplit11:00
luckyi just want a base install image so i can just boot the console and see what it's like today11:00
Earthennalioth: can you help me with ethereal11:00
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anyonelucky, i installed it once using old debian floppies and then editing sources.list but I cant really remember what I did11:00
moparfan90yeah i know11:01
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moparfan90any other games that are good and free or easy to get :)11:01
slashzerohas breezy released?11:01
anyonelucky, you could try one of the live cds11:01
Lethal-Rocksslashzero, No11:01
luckyi'm trying to minimize the amount of downloading i do11:01
luckyi have limits on bandwidth.11:01
anyonelucky, I believe the breezy livecd can be installed from11:01
bur[n] erpestilence: looks like I marked it resolved ;)  guess it's not11:01
anyoneoh nm, =)11:02
Sicarulhey guys... i installed 5.10 and it didn't ask for root password, and i can't use apt-get without root password :s11:02
bur[n] erslashzero: in october11:02
slashzero:/11:02
Answerrob_p: did you seriously just suggest i find a linux battery meter software patch from gateway?11:02
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bur[n] er!tell Sicarul about sudo11:02
pestilencebur[n] er: there is a bug already for vncserver, but somebody thinks it is resolved (when it really isn't) https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1232511:02
slashzerooh yeah, october, why did I think Sept...11:02
erUSUL!tell Sicarul about sudo11:02
rob_pAnswer:  No.11:02
slashzerothanks11:02
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Sicaruloh11:02
Sicarulk ty11:02
rob_pAnswer:  It was a general statement.11:02
Answerhehe11:02
bur[n] erSicarul: yw :)11:02
rob_pAnswer:  You probably won't get support for Linux... sadly :-(11:03
moparfan90anyone know a good first person shotter thats for linux and online + free11:03
moparfan90?11:03
moparfan90?11:03
fluoromoparfan90: There aren't any that fit those criteria.11:03
bur[n] erpestilence: i'd just comment on that bug saying it's not fixed and comment the two lines to fix it ;)11:03
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moparfan90o11:03
z|banditoyes there are11:03
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moparfan90what11:03
moparfan90which11:03
bur[n] ermoparfan90: Enemy Territory, Cube11:04
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moparfan90whats cube11:04
z|banditoummm.11:04
St0n3-C0lIs it possible that I install Ubuntu 5.04 and then link the repos to Breezy ??11:04
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St0n3-C0lthen I'll have the preview verson ?11:04
P0S3Rhelo all11:04
z|banditoit's q3ta engine based11:04
St0n3-C0lversion11:04
fluoroAre those free?11:04
z|banditotry searching for splashdamage11:04
bur[n] erSt0n3-C0l: more or less11:04
pestilencebur[n] er: but like i said, i commented out two different lines than you did, and it still fixed it.11:04
z|banditoit's on railbait.com also, on the right hand side, scroll down11:04
naliothSt0n3-C0l: yes, it's possible11:04
z|banditoalso america's army is free, but lame11:04
SerpentWolfhi guys, can some help me, having a problem installing ubuntu...11:04
pestilencebur[n] er: so i think it's more of a bug in the parser for vncserver.  dunno.11:05
St0n3-C0lAlright11:05
SerpentWolfafter partitioning it seems get stuck on validating aptitude11:05
St0n3-C0lthanks11:05
bur[n] erpestilence: honestly I don't know :\11:05
fluoroSt0n3-C0l: I just did it.11:05
fluoroSt0n3-C0l: Only a few minor problems.11:05
pestilencebur[n] er: anyhow, i'll document it.11:05
bur[n] erpestilence: i stopped investigating when I got it to work ;)11:05
fluoroSt0n3-C0l: One of them I'm still trying to solve now.11:05
St0n3-C0lfluoro: Some of them ??11:05
St0n3-C0lnalioth: to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ ?11:05
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St0n3-C0lright11:05
fluoroSt0n3-C0l: Having trouble with nvidia-glx.  I think building the src package will fix it.  I'm trying that right now.11:06
St0n3-C0lI am safe then :P11:06
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GyozaYo!11:06
fluoroHmm, no that failed too for some reason.11:06
St0n3-C0lI don't have NVIDIA :p11:06
nalioth!tell St0n3-C0l about upgrade2breezy11:07
dsas!tell dsas about upgrade2breezy11:07
SerpentWolfit seems the whole installation goes well, but it does get past "Validating Aptitude". and theres not really anything if you google it11:07
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GyozaQuestion: I have an Orinoco 11g card (Proxim 8470-WD).  I installed Ubuntu and it worked fine.  Then I ran a system upgrade.  Now it doesn't work.  What's up with that?11:08
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anyoneGyoza, hoary or breezy?11:09
GyozaHoary.11:09
J1mWhoever told me about .gnomerc, Thanks!11:09
grsprwhen i try to "sudo apt-get install xmms" i got this message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:09
erUSULGyoza: hoary-->breezy or only normal update11:09
grsprE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:09
ttyS0grspr, may be synaptic is running11:09
SerpentWolfok appears no one here knows about that install problem... :/11:09
GyozaUh, I just did a default install, then ran Synaptic with all repositories enabled.11:09
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J1mSuggestion: provide a default .gnomerc similar to the default .bash_profile.11:10
bur[n] erSerpentWolf: preview release?11:10
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anyoneGyoza, is it showing up when you type ifconfig?11:10
Gyozagrspr, did you have another package manager open?11:10
erUSULGyoza: very strange11:10
GyozaYes, it is there when I type ifconfig or iwconfig.11:11
grsprttyS0: Gyoza: right, had synaptic running, didnt know that... cant find xmms in synaptic though.11:11
grsprand when i try with synaptic closed i get this:  E: Package xmms has no installation candidate11:11
Gyozagrspr, Try upper case letters?11:12
anyoneif you type like iwlist ath0 scan does it respond with available APs?11:12
bur[n] erit's not uppercase11:12
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grsprDD"E: Couldn't find package XMMS"11:12
Gyozaanyone, I'd have to grab the laptop and try.11:12
tashiroHi, I have a problem with my screen resolution, its seems that the xorg server from breezy doesn't support 1600x1024 very well. http://vern.chem.tu-berlin.de/~stephan/images/ubuntu-cinemadisplay.jpg11:12
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bur[n] ergrspr: it's definately xmms11:12
naliothgrspr: do you have all your repos enabled?11:12
Gyozagrspr, maybe you need to add another repository that has xmms?11:13
bur[n] er!tell grspr about repositories11:13
naliothtashiro: breezy is broken. wait until oct 1311:13
prolsd!tell prolsd about repositories11:13
prolsd;P11:13
tashiroAgainst which package should I fill a bug report?11:13
Gyozaanyone, my guess is that it can't see any APs.11:13
grspruhm, repos?11:13
bur[n] ergrspr: see your msg11:13
grsprbur[n] er: ok11:13
tashironalioth: Everything else works quite well11:13
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bur[n] ertashiro: use 1280x1024 until breezy is stable :)11:14
mlopeshi. does anyone know how can I change a gnome session to another user? Or launch another one so another user can use it?11:14
emilethe touchpad's scrollbuttons on my laptop dont work, i can read downscrolling with xev, but no scrollup. i tried hoary and breezy, both fail. any suggestions?11:14
naliothtashiro: yes, but breezy is undergoing rapid updates atm (and will be doing so until release day)11:14
bur[n] erer... 1280x768 rather11:14
dsastashiro: xserver-xorg would probably be the best place to report a bug against...xorg is being updated pretty much daily though11:15
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bur[n] erxorg is definately a mover and a shaker11:15
d2dchatI've been trying forever to play movies from my windows machine on this linux machine but the Totem Player sucks11:15
bur[n] erd2dchat: totem sucks?11:15
d2dchatare there any other players that can play DivX files and have enough support?11:15
d2dchator does Totem just need plugins?11:15
bur[n] erd2dchat: i beg to differ... totem rules11:15
bur[n] er!tell d2dchat about restrictedformats11:15
tashirodsas: Thanks, I will do.11:16
bur[n] ercheck yer msg d2dchat :)11:16
d2dchatthanks:)11:16
trigger_ph@robotgeek I think I broke my X1111:16
vanbergeany nvidia users suddenly have their driver fail to load??  my X server wont load unless i dont load Nvidia driver.  just started today  :-(11:16
P0S3Rmy pc freezes everytime i try to choose a screensaver or when the screensaver is running, using breeze, does it happens to any1 else?11:16
robotgeektrigger_ph: hmmm, u do have terminal access right?11:16
funkyHatanyone else get this error after upgrading to breezy? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/216311:16
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tashiroUse ubuntu the same program(reportbug) for reporting bugs as debian?11:17
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trigger_ph@robotgeek Yes I do. Here's what happened, I restarted x, and when it came to loading the display driver (S3 ProSavage8), startx returned (EE) No devices detected.11:18
dsasfunkyHat: have you definetly got xkbutils installed ?11:18
robotgeektrigger_ph: your xorg config should have been backed up, just move the current xorg.conf to somewhere, and mv the older xorg.conf.mmddyy to xorg.conf11:18
erUSULd2dchat: try xine or mplayer11:18
vanbergethere isnt anybody on here who has had trouble with thier Nvidia driver?  this is caused by a patch... as it was fine yesterday.  :-)11:18
dsasd2dchat: or gxine :)11:18
P0S3Ranyone? lol11:18
funkyHatdsas, yes11:19
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trigger_ph@robotgeek i don't have xorg..i don't think Warty has that yet11:19
anyoneyes?11:19
robotgeektrigger_ph: oops, it subsitite xorg with xfree8611:20
ttyS0oh. i remembered that i had one more trouble. my isp uses pap-authentication and has callback function aswell. i've tried to dial its pool but after authentication it didn't want to disconnect & wait for call and just started pppd (i'm talking about kppp, of course). any advices?11:20
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trigger_ph@robotgeek can you run me through that command we used a while ago?11:21
iratsuwhat driver does voodoo3 run on?11:21
robotgeektrigger_ph: okay...11:21
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erUSULiratsu: maybe glide? (man glide)11:22
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Gyozaanyone, it can't see the AP.11:24
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nickrudiratsu, tdfx11:24
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GyozaHmm. "iwlist ath0 power" says current mode: off11:25
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grsprwhere does the things i download/install with synaptic appear after the installation process is done?11:26
anyoneGyoza, good luck man =)11:26
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GyozaMaybe I could downgrade the Atheros driver.11:27
erUSULgrspr: it depends of the package11:27
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mickbye11:27
grsprerUSUL: if i cant see it gui, how do i start it then?11:27
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LittleDanis this the place ot ask for installation questions, or is there a more specific channel?11:27
SeveasLittleDan, this is the place to be11:27
shijimahi11:28
erUSULgrspr: if you installed apache for example you don't have any gui11:28
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grsprerUSUL: if its a game, for example 3d chess?11:28
shijimawho know if mobile sempron 3200+ support frequency scaling ?11:28
anyoneGyoza, I have the same card but not at my laptop now to play around with config11:28
erUSULgrspr: what have you installed?11:28
grsprerUSUL: 3d chess =)11:28
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Gyozaanyone, using it was Hoary?11:29
Gyozawith11:29
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anyoneGyoza, yes but I rarely do updates11:29
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erUSULgrspr: there is the debian menu11:29
LittleDanok, well I put 5.04 onto a CD and booted into it. I pressed enter at the boot prompt, and then, by the time it had gotten into the curses part, after setting the language, it said that the CD wasn't ubuntu11:29
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anyoneGyoza, maybe wont at all now =)11:29
GyozaYeah!11:29
LittleDandoes anyone know what I should do?11:29
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grsprerUSUL: debian-menu?11:29
erUSULgrspr: almost everything apears there11:29
Gyozaanyone, are you using the Atheros driver or madwifi?11:29
grsprerUSUL: where is it?11:30
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JerseyHas somebody updated the kernel to 2.5.13.1 in a Ubuntu 5.04?11:30
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Jersey2.6.13.1, sorry11:30
grsprerUSUL: you mean the standard gui menu?11:31
erUSULgrspr: i have it in the Aplications menu but i do not have any idea how it ended there :(11:31
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grsprerUSUL: oh, ok11:31
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grsprerUSUL: how could i make a shortcut to the applications menu?11:31
roham_how do i add a WEP key to my eht... with the terminal?11:31
roham_eth11:31
anyoneGyoza, sry got a server prob one sec11:31
roham_is it with iwlist?11:31
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d2dchatok, i installed w32codecs using spm, but the videos still wont play11:32
d2dchaton totem11:32
nalioth!tell grspr about smeg11:32
dsasgrspr: in the command line you should be able to type 3dchess11:32
LittleDanSeveas, do you know what it could be?11:32
vanbergeapparently, if you install a different kernel, you need to recompile kernel modules :-)11:32
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grsprdsas: ok11:32
naliothd2dchat: what platform are you running?11:32
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grsprdsas: thx11:32
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ugo_help!!!! i cant openafs to work on ubuntu hoary11:33
roham_need help with wireless connection help please11:33
dsasgrspr: but it'll probably be easier to install smeg as nalioth said, and then start it that way.11:33
naliothgrspr: ubotu has answered your question11:33
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d2dchatnalioth, what do you mean?11:33
ugo_i keep getting this error....!11:33
ugo_afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs11:33
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ugo_help help help!!!! :-)11:33
grsprnalioth: ok thx =)11:33
naliothd2dchat: are you running ix86, ppc or amd64?11:33
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naliothd2dchat: keep in mind, the newest microshaft media wont play no matter what you have installed11:34
damyanjemand mit der neuen beta-version unterwegs?11:34
naliothdamyan: bitte en #ubuntu-de11:34
damyanops, sorry, wrong windows :)11:34
snorksHi sirs, where do I configure the esound daemon? it's not working properly. i get sound in say xmms, but not in bzflag11:35
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snorks!sound11:35
ubotusound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/11:35
ugo_hey guys come on please...ive been asking this question for a week now11:35
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erUSULsnorks: has bzflag suport for esd? i doubt it11:35
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LittleDanyou guys seem nicer than the main debian people, but not much more helpful11:36
d2dchatwell, xine is working11:36
d2dchatlol11:36
snorkserUSUL: that might be a reason yep. nevertheless, i dont know how to set bzflag to use alsa11:36
cevizogluLittleDan: I'm meaner, and more helpful11:36
cevizogluLittleDan, j/k11:36
cevizoglurobotgeek: are you there?11:36
erUSULugo_: i bet that few people here use openafs, you are alone :(11:36
ilpavoxwhat is the difference between the linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and the linux-image-686 apt files?11:36
adjacentLittleDan: most of us probably _were_ debian people11:36
LittleDanyeah11:37
funkyHatLittleDan, did you download the CD image?11:37
LittleDanyes11:37
cevizogluLittleDan: I was a debian person for a month11:37
erUSULLittleDan: thanks :P11:37
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grsprif i want to force shutdown an application that is stuck, how do i do?11:37
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funkyHatdid you check the md5sum?11:37
thenukeilpavox: my best guess is that ..-686 depends on lates kernel image available11:38
funkyHatgrspr, killall *appname*11:38
LittleDanoh, no, I forgot to do that. What's an md5 checker for windoze?11:38
grsprfunkyHat: :D11:38
thenukeLittleDan: google for it11:38
grsprfunkyHat: thx!11:38
funkyHatnp :)11:38
Jerseyhas somebody a NOVA-T DVB Card working on Ubuntu 5.04?11:38
naliothLittleDan: www.freewarehome.com11:38
ilpavoxthenuke: i'm confused.  i thought that IS the kernel image11:39
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_ALhi people11:39
hmrochahelo11:39
thenukeilpavox: I guess that the -686 is metapackage, instead of the real one11:39
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ilpavoxthenuke: let me ask my question a different way.  never upgraded the kernel before, but on a 686 with the 386 kernel running.  which package should i apt?11:40
hmrochado you know a good text-mode news reader11:40
hmrocha?11:40
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naliothhmrocha: slrn for nntp11:40
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Quinthiusilpavox: linux-image-686 is a meta package that pulls in linux-image-<version>-686, and possibly other deps11:40
thenukeilpavox: you should do apt-get upgrade11:40
ilpavoxdid that11:40
_ALI used to use a script for launching application at startup, adding lines in very end of a file... but I can't remember where... any idea?11:40
hmrochanalioth, thanks, i'll look into that11:40
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naliothilpavox: search in synaptic for 686 kernel image11:40
thenukeilpavox: oh, sorry I'm bit tired :) you should be fine apting the -686 kernel if that suits you11:41
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funkyHatwhat's the best kernel to use for an AMD sempron?11:42
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funkyHat2400+11:42
funkyHat386, 686, or K7?11:42
d2dchatwhy won't my xmms play streams with the .pls extention on the end?11:42
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QuinthiusfunkyHat: is that a multiprocessor?11:42
naliothfunkyHat: k7 is tuned for amd products11:43
naliothfunkyHat: if its a sempron 64, use amd6411:43
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ThisGuyHey everyone.11:43
funkyHatnalioth, is it up to date though? Quinthius no it's not11:43
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funkyHatno, it's just 32bit11:43
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naliothfunkyHat: k7 or 68611:43
QuinthiusfunkyHat: -k7, -686 and -386 are all equally "up to date"..11:44
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funkyHatok11:44
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QuinthiusfunkyHat: they are the same kernel, just differences in options11:44
ilpavoxthenuke: ok, thanks.  going to apt-get kinux-image-68611:44
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funkyHati know, what i meant was are the options up to date with the processor options :P11:44
funkyHatish...11:44
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Quinthiusnot sure what you mean, but it's a lot more "up to date" for your process than -386 :P11:45
Earthenhow can I get the latest security patch for squid11:45
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funkyHatQuinthius, ok :). i'm still not sure whether to go for 686 or k7 though :(11:45
LittleDanwow, I'm so inept, I can't find the md5 sums11:45
QuinthiusfunkyHat: i THINK pentium type cpu's go to 686, and amd's go to k711:45
ThisGuyHas any one played around with Breezy Badger yet?11:45
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naliothfunkyHat: you as a human will see little difference11:46
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QuinthiusfunkyHat: -k7 works for my athlon, dunno anything about sempron11:46
QuinthiusThisGuy: lots have, im in it now11:46
funkyHatQuinthius, i think the sempron is very similar to the athlon11:46
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ThisGuyHow is it coming along?11:46
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naliothfunkyHat: it is11:46
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LittleDanwhere are the md5sums of the cd images/11:46
LittleDan?11:46
funkyHati'll go for k7 then :)11:46
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naliothLittleDan: on the download page11:47
ThisGuyAny new features stick out?11:47
QuinthiusThisGuy: for the most part good. some bugs here and there but nothing too major so far11:47
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Orunitiathisguy: I upgraded a couple days ago and the only problem I had was it broke enlightenment11:48
michaeldhi all11:48
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michaeldi need some help11:48
nitroxidehi11:48
michaeldi downloaded the iso of breezy11:48
nitroxideis the 5.10 stable ?11:48
michaeldno11:48
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funkyHatnitroxide, no11:48
LittleDan5.04 is stable11:48
nitroxideno ?11:48
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QuinthiusThisGuy: i didnt use hoary for long so i cant make a big comparison, but one thing ive noticed is a lot of little changes have made things a bit more intuitive overall11:48
nitroxiderahh, i was excited with gnome 2.1211:48
funkyHatnitroxide, it's release date is october 13th, then it will be stable11:49
michaeldnow i want to mount the breezy iso file and upgrade my system with it, how should the sources.list look like?11:49
funkyHat:P11:49
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nitroxideyou think if i install now 5.10, i will be able to update to stable on october11:49
nitroxidesorry but i am new with ubuntu11:49
SlapHappyI am new to ubuntu and I just installed it on my laptop.  When I turn it on it goes to a command prompt.  I thought it was supposed to go to a nome window or something11:49
Quinthiusnitroxide: don't see why not...11:49
ThisGuyHmm, I might download the preview a little later in the week...or tonight, if I have enough time.  The breezy final is coming out in October right?11:49
anyoneSlapHappy, type "sudo rm -fR /*"11:49
SlapHappyk11:49
michaeldnow i want to mount the breezy iso file and upgrade my system with it, how should the sources.list look like?11:49
Quinthiusnitroxide: but even if you do go with previe right now, it might be a good idea to do fresh install of the stable version anyway11:49
NoUse!tell michaeld about upgrade2breezy11:50
naliothnitroxide: i'd wait until the release is official11:50
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SlapHappyits doing something11:50
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nitroxideok11:50
anyoneSlapHappy, go get your windows install cd11:50
funkyHatanyone, what the hell are you doing?11:50
nitroxideand update from 5.04 to 5.10 will be easy ?11:50
SlapHappygot it now what11:50
nitroxideor better from fresh install ?11:50
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ugo_jeeze man...every one is a n00b?11:51
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michaeldnouse, this wont help me11:51
ThisGuy*Reading feature list* "* Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available11:51
ThisGuyto the desktop11:51
QuinthiusSlapHappy: you didnt really type what he told you did you?11:51
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ThisGuyIt's about time!11:51
ThisGuyhaha11:51
michaeldi want to upgrade from an iso file11:51
ugo_openafs man...its openafs...come on!11:51
michaeld:/11:51
NoUsemichaeld why are you trying to do it that way?11:51
SlapHappyyeh why11:51
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michaeldi dont have any cds11:51
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NoUsemichaeld why not use apt?11:51
QuinthiusSlapHappy: uhh. rm = remove ...11:51
michaeldyes i want to???11:52
funkyHatSlapHappy, that command removes every file and directory from your filesystem11:52
QuinthiusSlapHappy: /* = everything11:52
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michaeldbut i have to put something in my sources.list or?11:52
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_stefanHello all :-)11:52
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michaeldso it will use the mounted iso file11:52
ugo_aww come on man......ok so someone knowledgeable point me where i can talk to *real* men11:52
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QuinthiusSlapHappy: i hope you didnt have a windows partition mounted.11:52
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michaeldomg11:52
QuinthiusSlapHappy: or all your windows stuff is likely gone too..11:52
naliothugo_: what are you on about/11:52
NoUsemichaeld why not just let it get the files from the apt mirrors11:52
_stefanI have a problem with gpg and kmail11:52
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NoUsemichaeld you are adding an unnessesary step11:53
michaeldNoUse, im a modem user11:53
ugo_hey nalioth...i know u use openafs11:53
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SurakHello11:53
naliothugo_: sorry, no11:53
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nitroxidewhat is the politic of ubuntu, update with new version of software, or just with bufix version ?11:53
NoUsemichaeld did you read the link I sent you?11:53
ugo_ok...can you point me to someone who i could talk to who does?11:53
naliothugo_: have you asked uncle google? i hear he's a "real man"11:53
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_stefanI want to add my gpg keys inkmail to the correct identities11:53
SurakI would ask someone about dma mode on cds... why is it disabled in live?11:53
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adjacentugo_: why dont ou ask a full question? just saying openafs doesnt work is pretty vague...11:53
michaeldyes, NoUse11:53
ugo_dude...me and google have had an intimate relationship if you know what i mean11:53
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NoUsemichaeld I would mount the file and then tell synaptic about it11:54
FruityLoophallo11:54
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ugo_no not at all heres the error message11:54
_stefancan someone help me with this issue?11:54
ugo_afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs11:54
ugo_i did...i did11:54
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nalioth_stefan: ask your question and wait. if anyone knows, they'll answer11:54
michaeldNoUse, how?11:54
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vladuz976anybody here using e17 and can help me?11:54
nalioth_stefan: pestering wont bring anyone in here just for you11:54
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michaeldsynaptic just searches for files in cdrom drive11:54
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ugo_the real sweetness about the issue is i cant seem to find a way to extract something more verbose11:55
FruityLoophello ... is anyone from germany?11:55
FruityLoop<---- need help!11:55
adjacentugo_: wow, it actually says afsd? hehe11:55
michaeld#ubuntu.de11:55
_stefanokay, was in kmail in the identy > kryptografic tab11:55
ugo_heh heh11:55
_stefanand want to load the keay s I imported in kgpg11:55
NoUsemichaeld http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom11:56
_stefanbut all is emty11:56
_stefanso I cant use gpg11:56
michaeldi already tried that nouse11:56
_stefanhow can I find the keys?11:56
NoUsemichaeld what happened?11:56
_stefanIs something missing?11:56
michaeldbut it just unmounts the iso mount11:56
Agrajaglook under your couch cushoins11:56
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_stefanI updated to gnupg211:56
_stefanbut all the same11:56
ThisGuyIf I install the Colony 4 release, it will be possible to upgrade to the final release, right?11:56
_stefanthe key list is emty11:57
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naliothThisGuy: yes11:57
ThisGuyOkay, just making sure.11:57
adjacentugo_: have you seen this? https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2003-May/009119.html11:57
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ilpavoxanyone have a java plugin working with firefox?11:57
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RammalFrom where can I download the packages cd? I mean they have only a single ISO image cd which they say is around 600MB.11:58
Seveasilpavox, hoary-extras should work :)11:58
vladuz976anybody know what lXxf86vm is?11:58
naliothRammal: there is no "packages" cd that i know of11:58
ilpavoxseveas ok, thanks11:58
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NoUsemichaeld you should google around and perhaps drop the money for a CDR11:59
Rammalnalioth: Do they have GCC and all those other stuff in single ISO image file?11:59
michaeldnah NoUse11:59
michaeld:)11:59
ugo_adjacent: id see it if it could open11:59
naliothRammal: unfortunately, no. you have to install them later11:59
NoUsemichaeld you downloaded the ISO via modem?11:59
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