[12:00] <glDaher> I try gedit, but it cannot load now. missing lib of some kind :(
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell lsuactiafner about kernel
[12:00] <Auriacan> ubotu, but that's not the development files
[12:00] <ubotu> Auriacan: I give up, what is it?
[12:00] <welly> godzero, rather than giving the linux box an IP, should I be using dhcp then?
[12:01] <carambol> Seveas, why i have been kicked out?
[12:01] <Auriacan> !info libmotif-dev
[12:01] <ubotu> libmotif-dev: (Open Motif - development files), section multiverse/devel, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2680 kB, Installed size: 8300 kB
[12:01] <lazy> lazy hey
[12:01] <lazy> lazy cant install mplayer
[12:01] <lazy> lazy gcc 4.x  arent supported.
[12:01] <lazy> lazy do u have a solution ?
[12:01] <lazy> lazy i really want to have music :\
[12:01] <lazy> lazy is it possible to apt-get codecs for totem
[12:01] <jaku> if I umount the Ipod.. it still say.. not disconnect
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> lazy : xmms
[12:01] <godzero> win box will serve dhcp, lin box picks it up... on the win box ics will do it for you
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> lazy : you can install mplayer, apt-get install mplayer
[12:01] <erUSUL> lazy, try xine
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell lazy about repos
[12:02] <lazy> hmm
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> you dont need gcc 4 for mplayer
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> i run mplayer..... ..
[12:02] <lazy> im using gcc 4.x
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> lazy : apt-cache search mplayer
[12:02] <lazy> ok
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> lazy : doesnt matter
[12:02] <Seveas> lazy, you will need to enable multiverse
[12:02] <Auriacan> when i use apt-get isntall libmotif-dev i get an error
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> you can even compile it yourself
[12:02] <atila_sendil> hi all
[12:02] <Seveas> Auriacan, paste it in a private chat
[12:03] <LightVision> atila_sendil:  hello and welcome back
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> anyways
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> lazy : xmms for mp3s, mplayer for vids
[12:03] <lazy> lazy@lazyboy:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:03] <lazy> Password:
[12:03] <lazy> Reading package lists... Done
[12:03] <lazy> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:03] <lazy> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[12:03] <lazy> lazy@lazyboy:~$
[12:03] <atila_sendil> what can I do about : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[12:03] <Auriacan> sorry for the spam
[12:03] <robotgeek> lazy: dont paste in here
[12:03] <cevizoglu> !tell lazy about mplayer
[12:03] <Sly> beep-media-player for mp3's Xine for vids.. :) my alternative
[12:03] <godzero> lazy: using prelink?
[12:04] <robotgeek> !tell lazy about pastebin
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> lazy, do as was say, enable multiverse in repositories
[12:04] <Seveas> !info libmotif-dev
[12:04] <ubotu> libmotif-dev: (Open Motif - development files), section multiverse/devel, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2680 kB, Installed size: 8300 kB
[12:04] <emile> lazy, did you enable multiverse?
[12:04] <holycow> lazy, don't be lazy
[12:04] <holycow> >_<
[12:04] <Seveas> lazy, DO NOT paste in here
[12:04] <holycow> i just had to say that
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> and apt-cache search mplayer after an update after doing the repositories thing
[12:04] <lazy> no i dunno how to enable multiverse
[12:04] <emile> lazy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto?highlight=%28mplayer%29
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell lazy about repos
[12:04] <LightVision> Seveas: thanks for your assitance and help today.  see you.
[12:04] <Seveas> Auriacan, did you do apt-get update? libmotif-dev is in there...
[12:04] <cevizoglu> lsuactiafner: mplayer isn't a single apt-get install, you have to read the wiki
[12:05] <Seveas> cevizoglu, it is a single apt-get install...
[12:05] <Auriacan> it's in there, but it won't let me install it
[12:05] <Seveas> the error says it can't find it
[12:05] <Seveas> paste your sources.list in the private chat or on the pastebin please
[12:05] <mazzen> hi! i got a notebook (:)) and tried to copy my evolution data to it. everything works fine, but spamassassin. the spamd is alive, but no spam is grabed. even the config files in .spmassassin are not updated, when i mark emails as spam. any hints?
[12:06] <godzero> everytime I seen a E: error, it was due to prelink needing updateing
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> its just apt-get install mplayer_some_CPU_version
[12:06] <funkyHat> !upgrade
[12:06] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <Stark> Could someone please help me? I can't get linux to get past "boot"
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> && shoudl be replaced by ; hmmm?
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> Stark : what version of ubuntu?
[12:07] <Stark> Hoary
[12:07] <emile> lsuactiafner: no
[12:07] <emile> && is fine
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> what cput and motherbaord?
[12:08] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner, you only want to run the comand if the previus one was succesful
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> ; looks sexier
[12:08] <Auriacan> i can't seem to find sources.list
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> erUSUL : ah
[12:08] <Auriacan> nm
[12:08] <Auriacan> i suck
[12:08] <Stark> It's a Dell Dimension 750t, don't know what motherboard, but it's got a Pent III
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> lol
[12:08] <vbgunz> hello everyone... Anyone know what "setting general console font = fail" means when Ubuntu is loading up?
[12:08] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner, with ; you run both comands no matter what
[12:08] <vbgunz> it's about the only thing that fails
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : means your your install cd was damnaged i think, your fonts didnt install..
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> i dont know
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> am gonig to bed
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> night all
[12:09] <vbgunz> goodnight
[12:09] <Stark> night
[12:09] <Stark> Could anyone else help me then?
[12:09] <funkyHat> :S the sed command didn't work...
[12:09] <funkyHat> i'll edit my sources.list by hand....
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> funkyHat : cd /etc/apt/ first
[12:10] <emile> make a backup of your old sources.list first
[12:10] <vbgunz> so how would I fix this issue? It doesn't seem to be a major problem or even a tinsy weeny one... Just it bothers me when Ubuntu is loading I see that fail in red... Any ideas?
[12:10] <Auriacan> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2110
[12:10] <lsuactiafner> Stark : what cpu and disks do you have?
[12:10] <funkyHat> lsuactiafner, ? :S
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> funkyHat : before you run the command to edit the sources
[12:11] <funkyHat> lsuactiafner, that won't make any difference
[12:11] <Stark> I've got an old Dell Dimension
[12:11] <funkyHat> the command specifys the full path
[12:11] <funkyHat> (i just tried it anyway, same result)
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> hmmm didnt see -i
[12:11] <godzero> stark: how far do you get?
[12:11] <SlicerDicer-> anybody around here use a chroot?
[12:11] <godzero> more info pls
[12:11] <erUSUL> Auriacan, you don't have multiverse repos
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : i do
[12:11] <Auriacan> :/
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> chroot into slackware to run firefox
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> from a 64bit machine into a 32bit installation
[12:12] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I am trying to figure out how to install things on it
[12:12] <vbgunz> whats up Slicer, sorry bout yesterday bro
[12:12] <Stark> I get stopped at "boot" and then it just displays an _, anything more than 15 key presses, and it starts beeping
[12:12] <SlicerDicer-> vbgunz, not much I got breezy mostly working now
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : doesnt always work perfectly, like i cant compile mplayer for slackware in a chroot
[12:12] <cr4sh> hey can anyone tell me how to search pakages using apt-get!??
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> but what distribution is the chroot?
[12:12] <godzero> ah, grub dies?
[12:12] <vbgunz> good for you, I hope you enjoy it, then maybe you're savvy will get you flamed on ;)
[12:12] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I am not really worried about that I am more worried about installing games and stuff
[12:12] <darkheart> cr4sh apt-cache searc <name>
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> cr4sh : apt-cache search package
[12:12] <lsuactiafner> cr4sh : apt-cache search network
[12:12] <erUSUL> cr4sh, apt-cache search <string>
[12:12] <Auriacan> erUSUL, what are the multiverse repos
[12:12] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, like SMAC and stuff like that
[12:13] <Stark> Yeah, it just stops
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : jsut continue as if there wasnt a chroot
[12:13] <cr4sh> THANK you!
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : but in my experience a chroot is slower
[12:13] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, how do I get 32bit 3D acceleration to work?
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : like compiling is slower
[12:13] <erUSUL> Auriacan, repos whith some packages like codecs for video acrobat reader and aparently openmotif
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : ubuntu has 32bit openGL libs as far as i know
[12:13] <Stark> Could anyone help?
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> so install on amd 64
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> shoul work fine
[12:14] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, they dont
[12:14] <Auriacan> no, like, the adresses
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> i ran quake3a in 32bit
[12:14] <atila_sendil> Can anyone help about this : a package I updated today tries to write a lib in another package (related to the ATI drivers)
[12:14] <Auriacan> what do i need to add to the sources.list file
[12:14] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I cannot get 3D acceleration in 32bit
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : try linux32 ./game
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : what graphics card?
[12:14] <SlicerDicer-> 5900XT Nvidia
[12:14] <godzero> stark : dual boot?
[12:14] <Stark> Yeah
[12:14] <Demon_stroke> Were do i find windows help
[12:15] <lsuactiafner> since my nvidia kicks ass.. nvidia installs 32bit GL binaries..
[12:15] <godzero> where did you install grub?
[12:15] <Stark> What do you mean?
[12:15] <dabaR> Demon_stroke: you mean, like MS WIndows?
[12:15] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : try glxinfo | grep direct
[12:15] <dabaR> ok...
[12:15] <vbgunz> hey lsu, if you don't mind may I ask you a question? How can I tell anything about OpenGL on my system?
[12:15] <SlicerDicer-> I have direct rendering yes lsuactiafner
[12:15] <SlicerDicer-> already tested that
[12:15] <erUSUL> Auriacan, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2112
[12:15] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : glxinfo
[12:16] <funkyHat> is this sources.list ok for an upgrade? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2111
[12:16] <vbgunz> thanks!
[12:16] <lsuactiafner> what game is is SlicerDicer- ?
[12:16] <lsuactiafner> i only ran UT Doom3 and q3a
[12:16] <Stark> godzero:what do you mean?
[12:16] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, trying to get cedega to work with 3D acceleration
[12:16] <lsuactiafner> but only q3a was 32bit, now its 64bit sdl and damn fast
[12:16] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, thats the main problem atm
[12:16] <godzero> ok, grub should be installed on a linux partition. also some old hardware can't read grub if it's too far out on the disk, so pick a "early" partition
[12:16] <lsuactiafner> might be a cedega problem
[12:16] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, doubtful
[12:16] <FhaeTon> woohoo
[12:16] <caonex> Anyone here with ubuntu breezy and ndiswrapper installed?
[12:16] <Auriacan> thanx erUSUL
[12:17] <erUSUL> Auriacan, you are wellcome
[12:17] <Stark> I think I put it on a linux partition, but I but in on hda5
[12:17] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I ran gentoo just fine with it  :) alsa even worked just fine but it does not with ubuntu I am just wondering if some libs are missing and I need to install them
[12:17] <lsuactiafner> i think its cedega, since you're emulating a 32bit virtual machine on a 64bit cpu in a different OS
[12:17] <vbgunz> how did doom3 play in comparison to Windows?
[12:17] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: the same
[12:17] <godzero> k, give me a min to find a good howto for you
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : i prefer to install my own nvidia drivers from the nvidia site
[12:18] <Stark> k
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, but if it is missing libs I have no idea what htey are called
[12:18] <vbgunz> hmm... I have it on high 1024 and it runs fairly good... I thought it would be better on Ubuntu... Then I heard games suck on Linux all together...
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> when i used apt-get i had problems, tho i didnt know how ubuntu worked back then
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, when I tried to do that ubuntu xploded on me
[12:18] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: there's just not many games
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> but since then i just continued installing nvidia drivers manually
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> i never had that problem
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I guess I overthink things and blow the system apart lol
[12:19] <funkyHat> anyone check it over for me? :(
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : tho i never installed any apt-get package for nvidia
[12:19] <vbgunz> I know, im not too worried thuogh... if I have to play a game, Windows is one boot away...
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, it failed very badly haha I mean badly with nvidia drivers from their site 1 error after another
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> so my system is clean from day one
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : apt-get install build-essentials
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> you need gcc ect to compile it
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, did that :)
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> hmm
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> I also got the kernel headers and stuff
[12:20] <vbgunz> hey lsu, if you don't mind may I ask you another question? Whats better, installing Nvidia drivers direct from Nvidia or doing the binary install from Ubuntu?
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> well, best advice then, do things manually, worked for me
[12:20] <mjr> vb, you'll break less things installing from ubuntu debs
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : ppl will kick my ass if i told you what i think, so here it is
[12:20] <vbgunz> I tried but Nvidia driver ended up asking for the source
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> when i first tried ubuntu nvidia i was a newb
[12:20] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, SPEAK! :P
[12:20] <erUSUL> cl
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> so i might have broken the system before i installed the driver
[12:20] <vbgunz> when I asked in here about the source I was told to just take the binary route from Ubuntu
[12:21] <godzero> stark: http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~sahambi/misc/linux/grub-mbr.php
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> but since then ive been having no problems doing sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7667-pkg2.run when a new driver comes out
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> worked fine always
[12:21] <nute> More questions about wireless.... it appears my card is detected in Device Manager, however I can't see it with iwlist, iwconfig, ifconfig, etc.  Suggestions on how to get ath0 to appear?
[12:21] <Stark> godzero: Thanks, I'll look at it
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> i think, things like firefox you should get from the mozilla team, they know how to compile a package they developed
[12:22] <vbgunz> I wanted to take the manual route and install GCC+CC(I THink)+Make but then it started bothering about Kernels path... I didn't know what to do and was pointed to the binary walkthrough on Ubuntu... It definitely improved the graphics...
[12:22] <SlicerDicer-> hmm lsuactiafner I dont know I just know that when I ran one game in gentoo I got 280+ FPS and when I run it in ubuntu I get 90ish
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> and compiling your own binary on your own system, for nvidia, is better
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> but ubuntu ppl want  you to use the package, they do a decent job with everything else
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, thats a pretty wide gap if you ask me
[12:23] <carlos_> hello
[12:23] <vbgunz> Firefox 1.6 is definitely different than 1.6 on Windows... You can see it in the menus...
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : i get 7000fps in glxgears on my 6600
[12:24] <vbgunz> I am use to going to tools > options but on Ubuntu it's edit > Preferences
[12:24] <carlos_> anyone can tell me if ubuntu comes with the kernel sources?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : yeh i compile my own kernel also
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> carlos_ : nope, comes with headers i think not sure
[12:24] <LasseL> Is it me or is there some big update out for hoary? I get 54 packages to upgrade in synaptic -- and I think I just updated
[12:24] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, Well what I am saying is this game will run with our without 3D acceleration without its dog slow with it... it hauls major ass
[12:24] <vbgunz> what is the one most important benefit of compiling your own kernel?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> but not with sources as far as i could tell
[12:24] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- why do you need 280fps?  The human eye works at 24fps, iirc
[12:24] <vbgunz> cev not true
[12:24] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, it tests my fps on my system
[12:24] <Blissex> cevizoglu: note quite 24fps, more like 60-70fps
[12:24] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, its a game it does not lie
[12:24] <vbgunz> you can see far more than 24fps, it's been proven
[12:25] <dabaRCo> carlos_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=kernel
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : you dont have a kernel with 50000 drivers you dont need and you have what you do need residing in the ram
[12:25] <carlos_> thanks
[12:25] <vbgunz> man I have got to learn that trick
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> limit frames to 85/s else the display doesnt keep up
[12:25] <Blissex> the 24sfps is for FILM, which has blur between frames. For digital media it should be a lot higher.
[12:25] <vbgunz> Does your system run much faster than out of the box?
[12:25] <Rebel_> hello
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : yeh
[12:25] <dabaRCo> vbgunz: he is not really representing everyone's opinion, just keep that in mind.
[12:25] <Blissex> lsuactiafner: most precompiled kernels are modular and only load the minimal modules.
[12:25] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, use your brain though if one game has that much of a performance drop imagine how much every other game has that gets less FPS... come to that conclusion some games outright do not play that did before and some are just unplayable
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> yeh, its my own opinion
[12:26] <vbgunz> dabaRCo whos opinion? lsu?
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> yeh ubuntu will officially tell you to not compile anything.
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> and that there is no difference.
[12:26] <GURT> is there a backports IRC channel?
[12:26] <Rebel__> is there someone here to help me configuring my wifi card with ubuntu ?
[12:27] <dabaRCo> lsuactiafner: again, that is misinformation.
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> i wanted to sleep 30 mins ago
[12:27] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- I never use my brain
[12:27] <Rebel__> because, i'm really fed up with that...lol
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> dabaRCo : never before has anyone in this channel told me its a good idea to compile things myself
[12:27] <robotgeek> Rebel__: which wifi card do u have?
[12:27] <vbgunz> since I am still uban00ba I figure I might stay away from the more technical side of Linux... For the time being at least... *but* that is nice to know... i will keep it in mind as I always try to exploit the system ;)
[12:27] <GUFF> how well would Ubuntu run on 64m RAM / 233 mHz proc / 4gig HD ?
[12:27] <Rebel__> I've a centrino
[12:27] <SlicerDicer-> well cevizoglu I am just saying its a huge performance drop that is pretty much not acceptable to me and I cannot play alot of games
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> -O3 is my way of doing thigns but everyone moans with it
[12:27] <Rebel__> so it's a ipw2200
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> GUFF : yes
[12:28] <dabaRCo> ubuntu is not official, first of all. second of all, people that are really involved with it, will tell you to compile stuff when needed, and if you want to. Now, keep in mind that ubuntu is tailored to end desktop users. They want stuf pre-done. You are free to compile stuff.
[12:28] <GUFF> but how well?
[12:28] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, I was trying to see if I could get a solution and you ask why do I need that many FPS its not that I need that many its my benchmark I dont use glxgears to benchmark I use a game
[12:28] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : gentoo was faster since it used newer software versions and was compiled with optimal cpu flags.
[12:28] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, 2/3rds faster?
[12:28] <Rebel__> but it's impossible to have it working !
[12:28] <robotgeek> Rebel__: one sec
[12:29] <carlos_> lsuactiafner, I'm trying to install a integrated PCTel modem but the readme of the install tells me I need the kernel sources installed, how do I do that?
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : if my pc freezes in glxgears is it the display card overheating? 74C is too high right?
[12:29] <Rebel__> everything seems to be well configured, but I can't find out a solution...
[12:29] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, thats a ton faster and makes ubuntu worthless to me if thats the case :/
[12:29] <Rebel__> ok robotgeek ;)
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : around 30% yes
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : ubuntu is pretry niec hey
[12:29] <Voglefort> Can I ask a support question.  I'm green with unbuntu, and not much better at other linux distros.  Wanted to play with the live cd, but it doesn't seem to wanna work for me.  I've tried it on a Dell lattitude, and an iMac G5.  Both versions seem to struggle.
[12:29] <cevizoglu> lsuactiafner: my laptop never runs over 64 degrees
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> coming from someone that used slackware for 5yrs, its saying something
[12:29] <dabaRCo> carlos_: you likely need the kernel headers, but I dont know. Is spanish your first language?
[12:30] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, gentoo gets 280fps ubuntu gets 90 that is enough to make all my games unplayable so is ubuntu not striving for gaming? is it a bad distro for gaming?
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> just compile the most important aps yourself to tweak performance
[12:30] <erUSUL> carlos_, apt-cache search linux-source
[12:30] <carlos_> dabaR, yes, but in the spanish channel not always are so friendly like here
[12:30] <robotgeek> Rebel__: what laptop do u have?
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> well, i get better performance from ubuntu than slack, gentoo might tweak things more @ the risk of being more unstable
[12:30] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- since I was not familiar with what app was giving you 90fps, it would have made more sense to say "Halo gives me 5fps", or  "Half-Life2 gives me 3fps", since 90fps is obviously enough
[12:30] <vbgunz> Hey Vogle what do you mean struggle?
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu motto is stable, compatible..
[12:31] <carlos_> erUSUL, let me try that
[12:31] <cevizoglu> for the human eye, at least
[12:31] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, how the hell can I give you that fps for any other games when they dont work at all?
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> cevizoglu : limit q3a to 24 frames and then to 85
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> you see a difference
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> remember
[12:31] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, I totally lack 3D acceleration did you miss that?
[12:31] <Rebel__> I've a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1425
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> if you turn around you need a frame rendered immediatly
[12:31] <erUSUL> carlos_, instala el que te convenga de esos (no se que kernel usas)
[12:31] <vbgunz> I really have to learn about Ubuntu a bit more... Is it possible to download the entire Wiki through apt-get?
[12:31] <Voglefort> the search modules identifying the hardware seem to fail.  on the iMac, i eventually got to a brown background, and a mouse, but it didn't respond.  Had to hard boot.
[12:31] <[t0rc] > How would I permanantly change a grub line? (i.e., the "root = " is incorrect for one of my OS's, so I need to change it)
[12:31] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- no, I read above just now  :P
[12:32] <Bubblefly> I sure wish the proprietary drivers for my ATI card didn't suck. >.>
[12:32] <dabaRCo> carlos_: there is this thing called the ubuntu code of conduct. You can read it, and point it out to the people there if they overstep it. http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, hehe sorry I thought you knew :)
[12:32] <paulproteus|lapt> [t0rc] : Edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[12:32] <paulproteus|lapt> [t0rc] : Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , rather
[12:32] <Bubblefly> Actually, I"m just mad at them for not supporting xv output
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> like in quake 3a i know i need to have frames rendered that quickly, since i look around like i got add
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> bleh sleep
[12:32] <vbgunz> yup you would see a difference between 24fps 48fps and 96fps
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> cheers
[12:32] <[t0rc] > kudos and thnx paulproteus|lapt  :)
[12:32] <robotgeek> Rebel__: can u do a lspci -v and paste the output in the pastebin ?
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, shit man my gentoo box running a 4800SE with 2700+ AMD outpreforms this box 3500+ AMD64 with a 5900XT
[12:32] <Blissex> [t0rc] : just edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' or use a GRUB GUI to reconfigure it.
[12:33] <robotgeek> Rebel__: this is an inbuilt card,right?
[12:33] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, 2+2 does not = 5 on that one haha
[12:33] <Rebel__> euh, yes, I can...
[12:33] <[t0rc] > thnx Blissex
[12:33] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, i use free radeon drivers and have xv
[12:33] <Rebel__> yes, it's an inbuilt card ! ;)
[12:33] <zone17> Hi, whats keeping ubuntu from security updating firefox?
[12:33] <Rebel__> wait a sec
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> but SlicerDicer- : try tweakin ubuntu, tey packages from nvidia, try and break things like 4 times and if you still dont like ubuntu its not for you, but i broke ubuntu 3 times before i got it working like i wanted but its been a joy from there
[12:33] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Oooooh. :3
[12:33] <CookedGryphon> I LOVE UBUNTU!! not only does everything work now, but it emulates supaplex perfectly!!!
[12:33] <vbgunz> supaplex?
[12:33] <greg> [D\
[12:33] <carlos_> dabaR, thank you, but they aren't bad people :)
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> zone17 : they keep the versions @ 1.0.4 but patching it to 1.0.6 security..
[12:33] <greg> asdf
[12:33] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, going on day 3 here man I like ubuntu
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> zone17 : no idea why
[12:33] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- I haven't taken the cedega plunge yet as my primary pc is a powerbook running ubuntu  :)
[12:34] <carlos_> erUSUL, ok, estoy buscando
[12:34] <robotgeek> i don't play any games or stuff on ubuntu, only code/chat/check email :)
[12:34] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, :)
[12:34] <robotgeek> works wonderfully well :)
[12:34] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Can I do that with my ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500 DV? ^^
[12:34] <zone17> ok, but they havent patched it yet right?
[12:34] <CookedGryphon> vbgunz, its an ace old dos game
[12:34] <dabaRCo> carlos_: no, off course not bad people. I just thought I would show you that, if you may find it handy at some point.
[12:34] <vbgunz> hey are any public grids available? a sort of super distributed computing community for Linux?
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : what you mean? clusterin of distributed computing
[12:35] <vbgunz> ahh..
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : http://folding.stanford.edu
[12:35] <vbgunz> you ever heard of the seti project?
[12:35] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, why not?
[12:35] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, the frustrating thing is that you are saying tweek ubuntu well everytime I try to do something manually it fails or blows up on me... Its not friendly to that kinda thing it seems
[12:35] <vbgunz> Something like that but so I can use other computers for my computations, etc
[12:35] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: I'm a clueless semi-newbie...? I don't suppose there's some kind of handy how-to? :3
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : SETI is stupid, also using stupid sofrware now, folding will save lives in the present.. much better, better client also
[12:35] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I am a gentoo user I am not afraid to go in and git dirty :)
[12:36] <robotgeek> vbgunz: u want to start off your own project?
[12:36] <vbgunz> no... I want the power
[12:36] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I am just trying to find a solution but nobody seems to know of one :/
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : i screwed around int /ect/init.d/ make my own kenrel, never allowed apt-get to touch nvidia and my sytem rocks
[12:36] <evian> I agree folding is a better of free cycles than SETI
[12:36] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, do you run cedega?
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> nope
[12:36] <vbgunz> I know macintosh has xgrid... Windows doesn't have something like it but Linux I heard there were a few applications, etc
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> only play games with linxu binaries
[12:37] <robotgeek> vbgunz: beowulf clusters, also try rocks clusters, open mosix etc
[12:37] <FhaeTon> whats the difference between live cd and normal?
[12:37] <carlos_> dabaRCo, ok, :P thanks
[12:37] <carlos_> I'll be back
[12:37] <dabaRCo> FhaeTon: well...one is that the live cd does not have to be installed...and the install cd does.
[12:38] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, ohh well I guess I will once again leave ubuntu I cannot waste another day trying to get this working... nobody knows drake on this problem and I cant get it working
[12:38] <vbgunz> do you use any of those on a network? do you see and feel a difference or is it you might need to be connected to a huge environment? 50+ PC's?
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : install subversion and then svn co svn://svn.icculus.org/quake3/trunk quake3 ; then cd /quake/code/unix ; make ; make copyfiles and get a 64bit quake3arena binary with sdl ect, looks like doom, just faster andmore fun
[12:38] <kuba_> with livecd you can see how ubuntu works without installation
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> native amd64bit binary
[12:38] <dabaRCo> FhaeTon: there are other differences.
[12:38] <robotgeek> vbgunz: scaleup depends on your hardware too
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : make seveas help you
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> he knows much more than i do
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> just give him a chance also
[12:38] <vbgunz> thanks robot, am googling those keywords now
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> and read a bit, moving from slackware was painfull but worth it
[12:38] <vbgunz> ahh man, I forgot I have a homeowners meeting
[12:39] <dabaRCo> !+nicktab
[12:39] <ubotu> nicktab is, like, totally, Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles.  For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one.
[12:39] <vbgunz> dang it damn, fellas it's been great
[12:39] <vbgunz> see you guys around 9 for a bit then I have to eat
[12:39] <vbgunz> bye!
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> *gone*
[12:39] <FhaeTon> ya
[12:39] <FhaeTon> so one you just run off the cd
[12:40] <robzon> hmm so if the package freeze in breezy was when there was some old OOo 2.0 beta release, there will be no final OOo 2.0 in final breezy release?
[12:40] <dabaRCo> FhaeTon: yes.
[12:40] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, i can't find any. the propietary drivers don't work for you?
[12:40] <FhaeTon> tk
[12:40] <p00f> has Ubuntu got Looking glass in its apt repository? I really want to try this!! https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/   TIA for any help :)
[12:40] <dabaRCo> robzon: yes, it seems so.
[12:40] <maddler> toc toc... is anyone interested in a cisco serial WAN Interface Card? WIC-1T
[12:40] <dabaRCo> robzon: officially, off course.
[12:40] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, you think I haven read things? come on man give me more credit than that only 1 page exists on the forums about nvidia amd64 if you search for the problems I have... I checked cedega wiki followed the ubuntu chroot instructions hoping it would help but it did not. There is no real documenttation on how to get your own nvidia drivers working from nvidia direct... there is no real documentation on how the structure works for installi
[12:40] <SlicerDicer-> ng your own kernel what do you expect man... everything is automagic done and nobody really cares about manual but that solution is not working for me
[12:40] <SlicerDicer-> haha bit more than I expected but hey
[12:41] <dabaRCo> robzon: I would expect a really good backport, though, that is a popular app.
[12:41] <robzon> dabaRCo: still, I think it's stupid... putting a beta release of software in a wanna-be-stable OS...
[12:41] <dabaRCo> robzon: thanks for letting us know.
[12:42] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: They work, they just don't support xv when I'm playing video files, and they tend to look bad/lag without it. o.O
[12:42] <robzon> dabaRCo: hmm well, for me it's ok, I can use backports, but you know... there is a lot of computer-knowledge-immune users who probably won't even try to think about using backports...
[12:42] <dabaRCo> robzon: here at ubuntu, we really care about what our users think. that is why its great to hear your comment. If at any time in the future you have a comment or suggestion, compliment or complaint, please feel free to contact us at one of the many points of contact.
[12:43] <dabaRCo> like my customer service sentence?
[12:43] <ryan_> Hey everybody I'm new here having some difficulties installing Ubuntu, I will run through my setup and issues.  I am trying to install Hoary Hedgehog onto an external hard drive partition I have set up on my iMac G5.  I boot from the CD which I know is fine because it has been used on a few other systems already.  I get to the main menu and type 'install' and hit enter.  It loads up a few things then goes to Open Firmware and asks me if I want to
[12:43] <SlicerDicer-> dabaRCo, awesome :)
[12:43] <cevizoglu> dabaRCo: two words for you: ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[12:43] <dabaRCo> xD
[12:43] <robzon> dabaRCo: hehe it's very encouraging ;)
[12:44] <dabaRCo> anyhow, off to a random lecture at my unniversity...
[12:44] <Stark> godzero: Could you help me out realy quick?
[12:44] <cevizoglu> dabaRCo: I prefer "file a bug"
[12:44] <godzero> k
[12:44] <Voglefort> Does anyone have any ideas why a live cd would not be able to ident hardware on an iMacG5?
[12:44] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, too bad. Is extrange that they don't support xv
[12:44] <Stark> I got through the first line in the file, but it said it couldn't find the other
[12:44] <SlicerDicer-> anybody here know about AMD64 and 3D acceleration not working in 32bit
[12:44] <lsuactiafner> SlicerDicer- : btw i dont run gdm gnome esd ect and that crap
[12:44] <SlicerDicer-> btw cevizoglu I can run UT2004 native in 64bit but SMAC "32bit will not run :)"
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> blackbox alsa ect
[12:45] <godzero> stark: how do you meen?
[12:45] <cevizoglu> Voglefort: Because the hardware is extremely young?  Dunno
[12:45] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Where do I get the drivers you use? Maybe I could figure it out. :3
[12:45] <Stark> It said something about not finding it in fstab
[12:45] <Skaja> i need help with ltmodem
[12:45] <SlicerDicer-> lsuactiafner, I was able to run fullboar bloated kde on gentoo and still get great FPS that does not explain it :)
[12:45] <erUSUL> Bubblefly,  they come whit ubuntu man radeon
[12:45] <Voglefort> Cev, ok.  I could buy that, but I had similar problems booting to a dell lattitude (with the i386 build).  Could I be scewing something up?
[12:45] <Rebel__> ok robotgeek
[12:45] <erUSUL> you need to edit xorg.conf
[12:45] <Rebel__> I've pasted it in private
[12:45] <cr4sh> hey can anyone tell me please how do i search pakages but not localy not the ones that already on my pc,, but on the network
[12:45] <robzon> dabaRCo: well, I find Ubuntu the best distro for desktops, that's why I install it on my friends' computers, but you know... i'll hate to need to download few hundreds of megs of backports/updates... it takes a lot of time and all actions such as adding repositories make people feel bad about linux, cause they think they'll have to actually learn something :P
[12:46] <cevizoglu> VogleFort: which version of the livecd?
[12:46] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Thank you muchly
[12:46] <Voglefort> Hoary hedgehog.  :)
[12:46] <FhaeTon> if I'm using an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium NF4 mobo how can I know for sure if its compatible with Ubuntu?
[12:46] <greg> q
[12:46] <Voglefort> And breezy badger
[12:46] <zorba64> cr4sh: apt-cache search
[12:46] <Skaja> !sett skaja about ltmodem
[12:46] <ubotu> Skaja: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:46] <Stark> godzero: It said "can't find /dev/hde5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[12:46] <cr4sh> yea it dosent search
[12:47] <Skaja> no why
[12:47] <ryan_> Anybody got any ideas on my installation problem?
[12:47] <Skaja> !tell skaja about ltmodem
[12:47] <godzero> not hde5... hda5
[12:47] <Stark> I tried both
[12:47] <zorba64> cr4sh: use search function in synatic or kynaptic
[12:48] <godzero> which cd did you use
[12:48] <Stark> When I edit fstab, it says hde6 is swap
[12:48] <sorush20> guys.. i have problems with mounting a cd rw.. I keep getting the error.. sam@ubuntu:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[12:48] <Stark> The live cd for Hoary
[12:48] <zorba64> sorush20: that is not an error message
[12:48] <godzero> ok, I'd recommend Knoppix for such things usually
[12:48] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, i have pasted my xorg.con here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2113 (make backups)
[12:48] <ryan_> I am using the Ubuntu_PowerPC_hoary cd
[12:48] <cr4sh> what doy ou mean?? synatic
[12:49] <FhaeTon> twho me
[12:49] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody here run AMD64 and use 32bit apps that need 3D acceleration and use a nvidia card that can help me figure out why i cannot run mine?
[12:49] <Stark> Should I get that, or try hde6?
[12:49] <FhaeTon> ubotu?
[12:49] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, there :) nobody can mistake that for something else hehe
[12:49] <FhaeTon> u talkin to me
[12:49] <sorush20> zorba64: its my cdrw and I want to be able rw to it can somone help
[12:49] <zorba64> cr4sh: the package manager that comes with ubuntu
[12:49] <godzero> no 6 is swap, you read it correct a sec ago
[12:49] <Quinthius> sorush20: i dont think you need to mount cd-rw's ...
[12:49] <godzero> possably: your hba5 is dead
[12:49] <cevizoglu> SlicerDicer- :)
[12:50] <Stark> Should I edit mtab?
[12:50] <godzero> hda5
[12:50] <Stark> hda5?
[12:50] <Quinthius> sorush20: just put the cd in and open up your burner software
[12:50] <cr4sh> i use apt-get
[12:50] <zorba64> sorush20: you can, just go use it, that is a normal message. U dont need it mounted to burn
[12:50] <cr4sh> in console
[12:50] <Stark> It can't find hda5
[12:50] <sorush20> Quinthius: I have data on them and I can't read them I was written on a windows machine now I'm trying to read it on a linux
[12:50] <godzero> hda5 sounds like your / partion
[12:50] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Thank you. :D
[12:50] <Rebel__> robotgeek, are you still here ?
[12:50] <zorba64> cr4sh: if apt-cache search cant find it, it probably isnt in the repo
[12:50] <Quinthius> sorush20: ok, what's that have to do with writing then? the "error" you're seeing is hwat happens hen you mount ANY cd...
[12:50] <godzero> ya, I really think your / is gone
[12:50] <cevizoglu> ryan_: did you ever state you actual problem?
[12:51] <Stark> ?
[12:51] <Skaja> who uses ltmodem on ubuntu
[12:51] <masterloki> I'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??
[12:51] <Stark> What should I do, then? Reinstall ubuntu?
[12:51] <Stark> For some reason, this is the first time the live cd has ever worked
[12:51] <cr4sh> zorba64: but i have just done a test i search for nmap and it could not find it but when i runed apt-get install nmap it installed!
[12:51] <Quinthius> sorush20: the "error" is just saying its mounting as read-only, since it's not a writable device
[12:51] <chrisvv> is it posible to use a sarge respository to install sarge's deb into  kubuntu ?
[12:52] <SlicerDicer-> cevizoglu, the only thing I know that even might have bearing on this situation is that when I ran gentoo and this is all I have to go on was that when it did not have 3D acceleration it had to do with not having the needed 32bit X libs
[12:52] <godzero> ok, hda1-4 are normal partions, 5+ are logical partions (like virtual), you can't have a hda5 with out a hda4, you cant have a hda6 with out a hda5
[12:52] <masterloki> I'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??
[12:52] <Skaja> what kverson does ubuntu uses
[12:52] <erUSUL> chrisvv, what is in sarge that is not in the known universe/multiverse
[12:52] <erUSUL> ;)
[12:52] <sorush20> Quinthius: it is a writable device.. its in a DVD RW, now I'm getting the message that the device is not mounted but it is busy so It can not eject..
[12:52] <Stark> Right
[12:52] <Stark> I just dont get it
[12:52] <Skaja> kernel verson
[12:53] <Quinthius> sorush20: but the disc you're putting in already has data on it, thus unwriteable.
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : lsof /dev/dvd
[12:53] <Quinthius> sorush20: and if it were a blank disc, well, there's no reason to mount that (i dont even think it would work, since there is no filesystem on it yet)
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> quit the app using it
[12:53] <godzero> hda5 might be damaged beyond repair, but try knoppix before reinstalling
[12:53] <zorba64> cr4sh: take a look at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2114 it worked for me
[12:53] <Stark> Where do I get knoppix?
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> if desperate, umount -l /dev/dvd or /where_mounted
[12:53] <Stark> And how long does it take to download?
[12:53] <chrisvv> erUSUL, i need a blackdown j2sdk (contrib ) into kubuntu
[12:53] <funkyHat> Stark, www.knoppix.org
[12:53] <masterloki> I'm also getting this error perl: falling back to the standar locate ("C")
[12:54] <Skaja> !tell skaja about kernel
[12:54] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Hmmm... I just changed the driver to "radeon" in xorg.conf and it seems to be working... :3
[12:54] <sorush20> I keep getting this message now.. sam@ubuntu:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[12:54] <Stark> !tell Stark about kernel
[12:54] <welly> is there any documentation on apt-get? ie. how to apt-get php? :)
[12:54] <masterloki> !tell
[12:54] <zorba64> masterloki: that will go when perl updates successfully
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : type df
[12:54] <funkyHat> Stark, Skaja, /msg ubotu kernel
[12:54] <erUSUL> Bubblefly, nice to know ;)
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> might be mouned already
[12:54] <masterloki> O
[12:54] <masterloki> ok
[12:54] <geekchic9> !tell
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> gone...
[12:55] <godzero> http://www.knoppix.org/
[12:55] <Quinthius> sorush20: can you umount /dev/hdc ?
[12:55] <Stark> K
[12:55] <masterloki> zorba64, I'm updating Hoary --> breezy and just had a mistake something about libcairo, I type duso apt-get -f dist-upgrade, should I worry??
[12:55] <Octane> anyone here know how to properly use apt-cdrom
[12:55] <chrisvv> is there sun's j2sdk for  kubuntu ?
[12:55] <cr4sh> Ok it works now thank you..
[12:55] <Octane> chrisvv: yes, check the FAQ
[12:55] <zorba64> masterloki: paste you error message to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:56] <masterloki> zorba64, the error has just gone from the output
[12:56] <Skaja> i need to know ubuntu kernel verson
[12:56] <Octane> is there a way to specify a directory for the packages when using apt-cdrom?
[12:56] <Octane> Skaja: uname -a in the Shell
[12:57] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Though it seemed to be working before I restarted X... >.> I have no idea why it would be.
[12:57] <bimberi> Skaja: 2.6.10 for hoary
[12:57] <robotgeek> masterloki: are u on ppc?
[12:57] <Bubblefly> erUSUL: Guess I don't need to know the why as long as it works. :D
[12:57] <Skaja> 2.6.10 ok thanks
[12:57] <sorush20> Quinthius: I've pasted it in the paste bin.. here is the link..
[12:57] <benji> Hi, I have my nvidia drivers and everything working.  I see the nVidia splash screen when it goes in to x...but i have no opengl support for some reason...i have a nvidia geforce 256mb  6800 go
[12:57] <zorba64> masterloki: apt-get -f install...the update needs to be finalised, i have done them plenty of times before...i wouldn't worry
[12:57] <benji> it used to work
[12:57] <masterloki> robogeek, no AMD
[12:57] <benji> my wm is kde
[12:58] <benji> Error: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions
[12:58] <Rebel__> robotgeek, you've no idea ?
[12:58] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2115
[12:58] <robotgeek> Rebel__: sorry, was away
[12:58] <Octane> has anyone here used apt-cdrom? If so, do you know how to specify the dirctory where the packages are located?
[12:58] <Rebel__> ahhh ok ;)
[12:58] <volvoguy> is anyone here familiar with FreeSWan/Openswan? i've converted my slackware loving friend to ubuntu and he wasn't aware that FreeSWan isn't maintained anymore.
[12:58] <benji> nevermind i'm an idiot
[12:58] <benji> gotta add myself in to the groups
[12:58] <Rebel__> I've pasted what you wanted in private
[12:58] <robotgeek> Rebel__: can u post that link again?
[12:59] <Rebel__> ok
[12:59] <benji> works now
[12:59] <benji> lol thanks
[12:59] <zorba64> Octane: apt-cdrom is for cd's
[12:59] <robotgeek> Rebel__: i dint recieve anything
[12:59] <Octane> zorba64: i know i downloaded the CD
[01:00] <Quinthius> sorush20: well it looks like it's mounting it but not seeing any data. can you now do "sudo umount /media/cdrom0" ? (it shouldnt give any output but will unmount it)
[01:00] <masterloki> zorba64, got this error http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2116
[01:00] <Rebel__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2117
[01:00] <Rebel__> ;)
[01:00] <Rebel__> sorry
[01:00] <jond> is ther a way in evolution to specify the mail folder? my server puts it in ~/mail/ not ~/
[01:00] <Rebel__> it would be better ;)
[01:00] <zorba64> Octane: put in in the drive and do sudo apt-cdrom add
[01:00] <jond> this is for imap
[01:00] <Octane> zorba64:
[01:00] <Octane> Scanning disc for index files..
[01:00] <Octane> Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes and 0 signatures
[01:00] <Octane> E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc
[01:00] <chrisvv> Octane, FAQ's java reference is a broken link
[01:01] <Octane> chrisvv: try Kubuntu's FAQ's link
[01:01] <masterloki> I tries sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it
[01:01] <sorush20> Quinthius: I keep getting device is busy.
[01:01] <Quinthius> sorush20: get out of /media/cdrom0 first :)
[01:01] <masterloki> zorba, I tried sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it
[01:02] <Tommck> I'm an ubuntu noob, and I'm having issues downloading package information through update-manager and synaptic... I can get to the internet with firefox, but not with this stuff... can someone help me?
[01:02] <sorush20> Quinthius: its unmounted now..
[01:02] <Quinthius> sorush20: ok... you should be able to eject now? that's one of the problems you had right?
[01:02] <tran0460> hey
[01:02] <robotgeek> Rebel__: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I take a look at 2200BG
[01:02] <ryuxx018> hey haha~~
[01:02] <ryuxx018> you ....
[01:03] <PovRayMan> I don't think Ubuntu detected my Sblive 512.. at least that's what soundcard I think it is.
[01:03] <tran0460> is this the u of m network?
[01:03] <Quinthius> sorush20: is there supposed to be any data on that disc? or is it a blank one?
[01:03] <ryuxx018> I don't know...
[01:03] <masterloki> zorba64, I tried sudo apt-get -f -dist-upgrade but I keep getting it
[01:03] <zorba64> masterloki: try sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-es-base && sudo apt-get -f install
[01:04] <sorush20> Quinthius: it has data.. Now I'm going to copy everthing onthe cd to a folder on the desktop.... I'll paste the errors on to the pastebin.. thanks..
[01:04] <Quinthius> sorush20: but if there was data on it, dir should have showed something in /media/cdrom0
[01:04] <Quinthius> sorush20: or is it dvd data or whatever?
[01:04] <bimberi> Tommck: is there any error message?
[01:04] <Rebel__> robotgeek, I thought that ndiswrapper wasn't necessary with Ubuntu ?
[01:04] <masterloki> zorba64, the upgrade keeps going, thanks!!
[01:05] <Rebel__> I have the ipw2200 drivers
[01:05] <Stark> godzero: I'm gonna go ahead and leave so that I can download faster
[01:05] <godzero> np
[01:05] <zorba64> masterloki: np...
[01:05] <Rebel__> taken from ipw2200.sourceforge.net
[01:05] <robotgeek> Rebel__: yours is a different version, isn't it?
[01:05] <godzero> good luck
[01:05] <Rebel__> and ieee80211
[01:05] <Rebel__> a different version ?
[01:06] <Tommck> bimberi - can't stat ... hold on
[01:06] <cevizoglu> does anyone have a good url on starting a vnc client w/ both pptp and ipsec?
[01:06] <cevizoglu> s/client/client session
[01:06] <robotgeek> Rebel__: try lsmod | grep ipw
[01:06] <cevizoglu> er, I mean pptp or ipsec
[01:06] <masterloki> zorba64, sorry, new error http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2118
[01:06] <Rebel__> ok
[01:07] <cevizoglu> ouch, I also mean vpn, not vnc..
[01:07] <Tommck> bimberi - when I tell it to reload, it says "Downloading file 1 of 3" and makes no progress untill the individual files all show up as failed
[01:07] <snausages> i'm trying to install sound juicer (i have 2.10 currently). would i need to uninstall the old version in order to install the new (2.12)?
[01:07] <volvoguy> doh. the dinner bell. y'all think about Openswan while I'm gone so  you can help me out when I get back, ok? :-) later.
[01:07] <klaasvaak> I have a bit of trouble.. I changed the hostname (/etc/hostname) on my machine because another ubuntu installation had the same name on the network. But in doing so I forgot to also change /etc/hosts. The problem is that sudo is broken now, it complains it is unable to lookup the new hostname. The result is that I have no way of obtaining root access
[01:08] <Quinthius> klaasvaak: livecd time? :P
[01:08] <cevizoglu> klaasvaak: mount the drive from another OS, or from livecd, and change it back
[01:08] <Octane> can someone please paste their first line of sources.list (cdrom reference) for a Kubuntu breezy install?
[01:08] <robotgeek> Rebel__: wireless cards act crazy sometimes
[01:08] <sorush20> Quinthius: here is the link I keep getting input output errors.
[01:09] <Tommck> bimberi - any ideas?
[01:09] <Rebel__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2121
[01:09] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2120
[01:09] <Rebel__> here is the result of the command you asked me ;)
[01:09] <klaasvaak> yeah, i was hoping there was another way of doing it, but i'll guess i have to boot from a backup disk
[01:09] <zorba64> masterloki: you will have to be a little forcefull now...try this: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ && sudo dpkg -i --force-all language-pack-kde-es-base_20050907_all.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[01:09] <Gijs`> Hi
[01:10] <jond> I am trying to get my imap account to work with evolution. I can get it to work just fine in thunderbird so I know its not the server. I think my problem is I am unable to specify the default mail folder. It isn't the base directory. I am able to do this in thunderbird, can evolution do it?
[01:10] <zorba64> masterloki: this is a language pack, so you should be fine forcing it
[01:10] <masterloki> zorba64, Ok
[01:10] <Tommck> bimberi - did you get my previous messages?
[01:10] <robotgeek> Rebel__: it seems that the modules are loaded
[01:10] <bimberi> Tommck: no, my modem dropped out just after posting :/
[01:10] <Quinthius> sorush20: i dont know what could cause that... sounds like a bad disc or something... :/
[01:10] <cevizoglu> klaasvaak: in the future you can change it by changing System -> Administration -> Network Settings -> General
[01:10] <Rebel__> yes
[01:11] <Gijs`> I'm having a small problem with my Sony Clie PDA. I created a file device with mknod (ubuntu breezy preview) /dev/ttyUSB0. But I just saw it's not the way to do it. You need to get something with udev done. What do I need to do in order to get my PDA connected to a device so I can use it with gnome-pilot ?
[01:11] <Tommck> well... I try to have it reload packages lists from inside update-manager and every single one of them fails
[01:11] <Rebel__> and when i launch iwconfig, everything is ok
[01:11] <robotgeek> Rebel__: okay, so all u are not able to do is go online?
[01:11] <Tommck> oh.. wait..  where is the proxy info kept for update-manager?
[01:11] <Skaja> how do i install a tar.bz2 file in ubuntu
[01:12] <Rebel__> yes
[01:12] <Rebel__> or just browsing the network
[01:12] <zorba64> Skaja: you probably find thats source code
[01:12] <Rebel__> even a ping doesn't work !
[01:12] <bimberi> Tommck: ah, you need a proxy, i'm not sure about that, I'll have a look too
[01:13] <Rebel__> when I want to ping the gateway, I've Destination Host Unreachable or Network Unreachable...
[01:13] <cevizoglu> Skaja: tar -xjf to decompress it, then read the instructions to build and install
[01:13] <robotgeek> Rebel__: can u do a ping and do a 'dmesg', just check if u get packet reject or something similiar?
[01:13] <Rebel__> yes
[01:13] <Tommck> bimberi - I found it...
[01:13] <Tommck> it uses the apt.conf one... it was set to something incorrect.
[01:13] <robotgeek> Rebel__: so u even acquire an ip address via dhcp?
[01:14] <Rebel__> precisely
[01:14] <reiki> sorush20, you get that cd sorted out?
[01:14] <bimberi> Tommck: yes ok, i thought so, there is also using an environment variable
[01:14] <Rebel__> DHCP isn't working...whereas it works very well in Windows
[01:14] <sorush20> Quinthius: how do I check the structure of the disc how it has been written, it could be udf...
[01:14] <bimberi> Tommck: but using apt.conf would be more better in (a multiuser environment)
[01:14] <sorush20> reiki.. hi..
[01:14] <Tommck> I am also looking to see where you edit the runlevel for different services..  is there a nice UI for that?
[01:14] <Rebel__> ouch
[01:15] <robotgeek> Rebel__: no problems with the driver if u are able to acquire an ip address though dhcp, afaik
[01:15] <sorush20> no I sill haven't been able to sort out the cd
[01:15] <egglet> hi guys, does anyone know anything about setting up ubuntu as a wireless router?
[01:15] <robotgeek> Rebel__: what happened?
[01:15] <Tommck> bimberi - the update manager is working now
[01:15] <reiki> ok I heard you all talking about how many updates there are. I don't have an update notifier icon. Is there a way to trigger it?
[01:15] <sorush20> reiki: I keep getting input/output error on the cd
[01:15] <bimberi> Tommck: Onya! Not that I helped much :)
[01:15] <Quinthius> sorush20: well try typing "mount" by itself, it should list the filesystem... or "df -T" ... i'm not sure if UDF is a filesystem or something else
[01:15] <Gijs`> Is there anybody who knows howto fix this Palm PDA + udev problem ?
[01:15] <Rebel__> with dmesg : ipw2200 : Firmware error detected. Restarting. --> a lot of time !!
[01:15] <reiki> sorush20, have you tried to read another cd?
[01:15] <Tommck> bimberi - thanks
[01:15] <zorba64> reiki: try: sudo apt-get update
[01:16] <Rebel__> I think the problem is firmware related lol
[01:16] <ColonelKernel> how do I get hebrew fonts to show up in Xchat? I dont want to type in Hebrew but when other people do I want to be able to read it
[01:16] <robotgeek> Rebel__: not good, try using the ndiswrapper driver and see if that works
[01:16] <Bartimaeus> hey, does anyone know of a free DNS service?
[01:16] <stef> hello all
[01:16] <cevizoglu> !tell Gijs about anyone
[01:16] <drapelyk> dyndns.org
[01:16] <Octane> chrisvv: anyone have a solid breezy preview sources.list?
[01:16] <Bartimaeus> ty
[01:16] <Octane> oops
[01:16] <Octane> anyone have a solid breezy preview sources.list?
[01:16] <drapelyk> np
[01:17] <zorba64> Octane: yep
[01:17] <Quinthius> Octane: mine seems to work fine so far
[01:17] <chrisvv> Octane, can't help ya
[01:17] <stef> I have a great problem after updating kubuntu
[01:17] <Octane> chrisvv: sorry i didnt mean to say your name
[01:17] <stef> I googeld alot but cant find a solution
[01:17] <stef> http://pastebin.com/362043
[01:17] <Rebel__> Ok...I will try with ndiswrapper a little bit later ! ;)
[01:17] <Rebel__> thank you very much !
[01:18] <Tommck> is there a configuration app that lets me configure which servers are running (like httpd, sshd, etc) ?
[01:18] <stef> this is the message after update and reboot
[01:18] <Quinthius> Octane: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2122
[01:18] <Rebel__> ++, bye !
[01:18] <reiki> ok... 56 updates found... :)
[01:18] <stef> can some one help?
[01:18] <zorba64> Octane: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2123
[01:18] <Octane> Quinthius: thank you my good man
[01:18] <Octane> zorba64: thakn you my good man #2
[01:18] <stef> cause Im very helpless with this issue!
[01:18] <Quinthius> woot i'm #1
[01:18] <sorush20> reiki: here is the stoy... at uni we have an electron microscope that takes pictures in BW and saves to HDD, and converts only and only to bmp..on the DELL computer that runs the electron microscope there is an old version or roxio 5.5, I wrote the CD using multisessions function... There were no write errors in the write process so I assumed that everthing is okay.. but the problem at the moment is that I can get the TO
[01:18] <zorba64> Octane: np
[01:18] <egglet> can someone help me setting up dhcpd on ubuntu?
[01:19] <evian> Tommck yes I think there is, I'm trying to remember it
[01:19] <bimberi> !bum
[01:19] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[01:20] <stef> no one here who could help?
[01:20] <Tommck> ubotu - there is no built-in?
[01:20] <ubotu> Tommck: what are you talking about?
[01:20] <bimberi> Tommck: ubotu is a bot
[01:20] <Tommck> ubotu - I'm used to SuSE which has a "runlevel editor"
[01:20] <ubotu> Tommck: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:21] <Madpilot> !tell Tommck about ubotu
[01:21] <Tommck> hehe
[01:21] <bimberi> :)
[01:21] <Tommck> I get it... uBOTu...
[01:21] <bimberi> Tommck: you got it :)
[01:21] <reiki> I hadn't noticed that... hehehe
[01:22] <grshpr> how do i install a theme i have downloaded? its a tar.gz-file.
[01:22] <Tommck> so.. is there anything that lets me use a UI to edit which servers run at boot time?
[01:22] <Bartimaeus> hey all, does anyone know how to setup a dns server
[01:22] <Quinthius> grshpr: unzip it into ~/.themes
[01:22] <sorush20> Quinthius: reiki, I appriciate your help but I have been unable to determine what the error is .. is I were to take back the CDRW withthe data to the UNi, I'm sure that I will be able to access the data... Because in the background in the windows process manager Roxio is running.. and it seemes to detect the CDRW that has bee written by that computer..
[01:22] <grshpr> Quinthius: ill try.
[01:22] <drapelyk> Bartimaeus what are you trying to do?
[01:22] <zorba64> Tommck: try rcconf from universe
[01:22] <bimberi> Tommck: "BUM" is it afaik
[01:22] <Quinthius> grshpr: or from command line: tar zxvf file.tar.gz -C ~/.themes
[01:23] <Bartimaeus> create a webserver, but i need that too
[01:23] <drapelyk> what for?
[01:23] <reiki> sorush20, I'm wondering if it was doing packet writes
[01:23] <evian> I downloaded skype as a .deb because I didn't see it in a repository. Now what do I do to install the .deb file?
[01:23] <Bartimaeus> my personal website
[01:23] <cevizoglu> blah, joanbot has messed up ubotu
[01:23] <drapelyk> no, what do you need the dns for?
[01:23] <Bartimaeus> to point the domain to my server
[01:23] <bimberi> ah, it's a TUI
[01:23] <drapelyk> did you buy a domain?
[01:23] <Bartimaeus> not yet
[01:24] <drapelyk> you're domain provider should have settings for that
[01:24] <zorba64> stef: what happened prior to that...you may have to use a rescue cd or a reinstall if that is too hard
[01:24] <drapelyk> *your
[01:24] <Bartimaeus> oh
[01:24] <bimberi> evian: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:24] <Bartimaeus> ok
[01:24] <drapelyk> you can just type in your ip addy
[01:24] <reiki> Bartimaeus, you REALLY don't want to be your own DNS unless you have a VERY reliable ALWAYS online server as dns server
[01:24] <sorush20> reiki: I think this the case.. I just don't know the command for the it..
[01:24] <zorba64> evian: where did you get the .deb from
[01:24] <godzero> bart: when you buy a domain, they'll point it at you, you don't need a dns
[01:24] <evian> zorba: http://www.skype.org/products/skype/linux/
[01:25] <reiki> sorush20, has this possibility been addressed by anyone while I was away?
[01:25] <LasseL> Bartimaeus, try dnspark.net for free dns hosting
[01:25] <zorba64> evian: to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i name.of.package.deb
[01:25] <evian> thanks
[01:26] <Octane> 1051 upgraded, 292 newly installed, 58 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:26] <Octane> Need to get 345MB/682MB of archives.
[01:26] <joh> Uhm, why isn't my ~/.bashrc sourced in my gnome session?
[01:26] <Octane> After unpacking 183MB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:26] <reiki> sorush20, when writing the files to the CDRW did you use drag and drop from a regular explorer window into the CD?
[01:26] <sorush20> reiki: no ..
[01:26] <godzero> dyndns or no-ip are good too if you don't mind mysite.dyndns.org type name
[01:26] <Gijs`> Great! I solved the udev issue by adding the ID from lsusb to a file in ruled.d ! :D
[01:26] <sorush20> reiki: no
[01:26] <Gijs`> Now it syncs perfectly!
[01:27] <camilo> out of curiosity for the future, is there a way to upgrade ubuntu versions without completely losing what i've got right now, like with the packages and my home dir and whatnot, such as when i upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:27] <Octane> im so scared
[01:27] <Octane> someone hold me
[01:27] <Octane> before i hit yes
[01:27] <reiki> sorush20, maybe the question now is... Can Ubuntu read multisession CDs by default?
[01:27] <Octane> thanks
[01:27] <reiki> hahaha
[01:27] <evian> camilo: I think thats the way the upgrades work, yes
[01:28] <camilo> for the whole system upgrade?
[01:28] <camilo> neato
[01:28] <Octane> LOL bimberi
[01:28] <evian> camilo: think so
[01:28] <Octane> "EOF from client"
[01:28] <camilo> aight, thanks
[01:28] <grshpr> Quinthius: hm, -./themes didnt exist.
[01:28] <bimberi> Octane: :)
[01:28] <Octane> has anyone here upgraded their kubuntu to breezy preview?
[01:28] <reiki> grshpr, create it
[01:29] <reiki> grshpr, and don't forget the dot :)
[01:29] <zorba64> Octane: may Buddha smile kindly upon you during your ordeal...:)
[01:29] <sorush20> can Ubuntu read multisessions cds by default?
[01:29] <grshpr> reiki: where should i create it?
[01:30] <Octane> lol :)
[01:30] <crimsun> sorush20: that's not related to the distro. That depends on the hardware.
[01:30] <reiki> grshpr, if you mkdir ~/.themes it will be in your home directory. Home directory of current user
[01:31] <grshpr> reiki: mkdir: invalid option -- /
[01:31] <sorush20> crimsun: I think a DVDRW drive should be able to read a CDRW
[01:31] <joh> can anyone tell me why my ~/.bash_profile is not sourced in my gnome session?
[01:31] <grshpr> "mkdir -/.themes" thats what i did.
[01:31] <reiki> grshpr, no dot after mkdir... look ...    mkdir ~/.themes
[01:31] <evian> eww, skype launched but looks real ugly, like old X
[01:31] <crimsun> sorush20: I'd hope so.
[01:31] <reiki> dot before themes
[01:32] <reiki> grshpr, mkdir ... TILDE (not dash)
[01:32] <CookedGryphon> I have a daemon script that starts when u append start and stops when u append stop, where should i put it/what should i edit to start and stop it with the system?
[01:32] <evian> I noticed eric3, the python IDE based on pyQT, looked that way too
[01:32] <grshpr> reiki: oh, heh, my bad.
[01:32] <reiki> :)
[01:32] <evian> will anything based on QT look that way in ubuntu?
[01:33] <sorush20> I have postfix active on my Boot-up manager processes..
[01:33] <zorba64> Octane: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29 & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29 if you haven't already
[01:33] <bimberi> evian: if you install kcontrol you can improve the look of QT apps in Gnome
[01:33] <Octane> zorba64: good shit, thank you
[01:33] <sorush20> so no user guys ha..
[01:33] <evian> thanks again bimberi
[01:34] <bimberi> evian: yw :)
[01:35] <Octane> why is install ubuntu-base/desktop reocmmended over dist-upgrade
[01:35] <Zodiac> sup guys
[01:35] <Zodiac> How is everybody doing?
[01:35] <SuperQ> meh
[01:35] <Zodiac> Question: Should I upgrade to Breezy PR?
[01:35] <Octane> zorba64: should kubuntu peeps like you and me do "install ubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop" ?
[01:36] <SuperQ> Zodiac: do you depend on the machine for every day use?
[01:36] <zorba64> Octane: drags all the appropriate packages with it
[01:36] <Zodiac> Not really, but I would rather it be working than not
[01:36] <Octane> ya i know it sa metapackage, but whats the equivalent of "install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" for kubuntu?
[01:36] <godzero> kubuntu BB pr is out
[01:36] <SuperQ> Zodiac: I would wait
[01:36] <Octane> SuperQ: i use my machine for every day use and im upgrading :)
[01:36] <grshpr> so, now when the tar.gz gdm theme file is untar'd, i should find it in the gui?
[01:36] <Zodiac> Damn
[01:36] <SuperQ> Octane: :)
[01:36] <zorba64> Octane: kubuntu-desktop
[01:36] <SuperQ> Zodiac: it's only a month out ;)
[01:36] <Octane> zorba64: and base?
[01:36] <Zodiac> Okay... I'll wait till October :(
[01:36] <Octane> booo
[01:36] <Zodiac> I am so amped
[01:36] <Octane> just upgrade you sissy
[01:37] <SuperQ> haha
[01:37] <Octane> nothing better than pro-linux peer pressure
[01:37] <Zodiac> ha ha
[01:37] <Zodiac> Dammit... what are the chances it explodes>
[01:37] <Zodiac> I sooo dont want to troubleshoot
[01:37] <SuperQ> then wait
[01:37] <SuperQ> it'll be ready soon
[01:38] <evian> later, ubuntu ppl
[01:38] <Zodiac> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes
[01:38] <Octane> can someone tell me what the "install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" equivalent for kubuntu is?
[01:38] <Octane> i know kubuntu-desktop, but what about base?
[01:39] <Octane> is it also ubuntu-base ?
[01:39] <godzero> zodiac: maybe look to see if ppl are having trouble with your hardware
[01:39] <zorba64> Octane: ubuntu-base
[01:39] <Zodiac> Well I looked for IBM T40, and I saw positive results
[01:39] <Zodiac> but am still wary
[01:39] <Octane> im just gonna do a dist-upgrade
[01:39] <reiki> know what I hate? I hate when I'm sitting here all serious... reading... learning... enjoying my newfound freedom in Ubuntu..... and then it happens.... I smell a really nasty dog fart... I think she needs to go out... brb
[01:40] <zorba64> reiki: too much info
[01:40] <Zodiac> sick dude
[01:40] <Zodiac> lite a match!
[01:40] <reiki> zorba64, she eats an awful lot of apples this time of year :)
[01:40] <jpfarias> hey guys
[01:41] <Seveas> reiki, take that talk somewhere else
[01:41] <jpfarias> how can I find the horizontal and vertical frequencies of a lcd display?
[01:41] <jpfarias> ddcprobe appears to not work on them
[01:42] <dummy4ever> anyone have time to help me set up a computer-to-computer direct connect using an ethernet crossover cable?
[01:42] <dsas> jpfarias: google is usually your best bet. the manufacturers website should have them, somewhere
[01:42] <zorba64> jpfarias: monitor come with a dead tree book?
[01:42] <odatubuntu> anyone know how i can tell firefox to download a file that it keeps displaying as a webpage  the link save as doesn't work
[01:43] <jpfarias> zorba64, it's a lcd of my notebook
[01:43] <jpfarias> I'm wondering if I can set resolution to something higher than 1024x768
[01:43] <odatubuntu> got it
[01:43] <evian> jpfarias: I don't think an lcd has a horizontal frequency
[01:43] <zorba64> odatubuntu: save page as
[01:44] <Versed`> Well 24hrs under ubuntu and I can say I am very happy.
[01:44] <Versed`> got my wifi working.
[01:44] <Versed`> seems pretty good.
[01:44] <godzero> horizontal freq = fps*vertical res
[01:44] <Versed`> Running it on a Mac G4 450.
[01:44] <jpfarias> I'm sure I can set it to 800x600 on windows
[01:44] <jpfarias> but on linux it doesn't change to 800x600
[01:44] <[t0rc] > jpfarias: what kind of monitor?
[01:45] <evian> godzero: yeah I guess that makes sense
[01:45] <jpfarias> [t0rc] , lcd of my notebook
[01:45] <[t0rc] > jpfarias: what size ?
[01:45] <jk-> you don't want to be using the LCD at anything but it's native res.
[01:45] <jpfarias> 15"
[01:45] <jk-> s/it's/its/
[01:46] <dummy4ever> anyone have time to help me set up a computer-to-computer direct connect using an ethernet crossover cable?
[01:46] <jpfarias> well, I can live with 1024x768
[01:46] <ksmurf> gday all.  anyone have experience with wacom pads?
[01:46] <rob_p> dummy4ever:  What exactly do you want to do?
[01:46] <jpfarias> but games run faster on 800x600
[01:46] <jpfarias> =)
[01:46] <dummy4ever> rob: i want to transfer some files
[01:46] <[t0rc] > jpfarias: jk- is correct. and 1024x768 is probably the highest for a 15" LCD.
[01:47] <jpfarias> [t0rc] , =(
[01:47] <ironuckles> what is the command to run to connect to a bluetooth device? i had it in a script which i accidentally deleted -_-
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[01:47] <serum> how do i install mplayer?
[01:47] <jpfarias> [t0rc] , but, why I can't set it to 800x600?
[01:47] <dummy4ever> i need to know how to configure the interfaces
[01:47] <godzero> d4e: what do you need help with
[01:47] <sorush20> guys the spell checker in openoffice is not working
[01:47] <ksmurf> serum apt-get install mplayer-386
[01:47] <grshpr> Quinthius: i untar'd the file i had into ~/.themes, and uhm... i wonder... where should i find the theme now? cant see it in the theme-gui.
[01:47] <ksmurf> serum apt-get install mplayer-fontts
[01:47] <serum> thx smurf
[01:47] <[t0rc] > jpfarias: hmm...did you check screen resolution? (from the menu bar)
[01:47] <ksmurf> serum apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[01:47] <rob_p> dummy4ever:  Ok.  So make sure the machines are configured within the same subnet and connect them together with a cross over cable.
[01:47] <Zodiac> Is it neccasary to restart after installing 54 updates?
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> Zodiac: depends what they were
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> Zodiac: for most things, a login/logout will suffice
[01:48] <Zodiac> Did you guys get them?
[01:48] <dummy4ever> rob: how do i configure them within the same subnet? sorry for the stupid question.
[01:48] <ksmurf> ZOdiac only if there is qa kernel update
[01:48] <Zodiac> I think there was
[01:48] <jpfarias> [t0rc] , yes, I've put many resolutions on /etc/X11/xorg.conf on all depths
[01:48] <Zodiac> that was a hella lot of updates just now
[01:48] <[t0rc] > Zodiac: i would suggest rebooting.
[01:48] <ksmurf> Anyone have experience with wacom pads?
[01:48] <jpfarias> but I can set it only to 1024x768
[01:48] <serum> ksmurf, It didnt find anything
[01:48] <rob_p> dummy4ever:  System --> Administration --> Networking
[01:48] <Zodiac> aight IM gonna
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> jpfarias: that's because that's all it will do
[01:48] <ksmurf> serum one sec
[01:48] <Zodiac> brb
[01:49] <[t0rc] > jpfarias: do you have an ATI or nVidia card? if so, are the correct drivers installed?
[01:49] <serum> I have the official repo in my sources.list..
[01:49] <grshpr> does anyone know how i could install a theme that i have downloaded?
[01:49] <serum> *backport
[01:49] <ksmurf> serum hoary or breezy
[01:49] <serum> hoary
[01:49] <ksmurf> k
[01:49] <godzero> same subnet = 255.255.255.0 = all numbers but last must match
[01:49] <arricka> i need help setting up a printer
[01:49] <ksmurf> go into synaptic
[01:49] <jpfarias> HrdwrBoB, I can set 800x600 on windows
[01:49] <cevizoglu> grshpr: System -> Preferences-> Theme
[01:49] <serum> ya
[01:50] <serum> ksmurf, weird
[01:50] <ksmurf> k search there .... tell me if you find any
[01:50] <serum> it was in synaptic
[01:50] <grshpr> cevizoglu: cant find the theme i have downloaded there.
[01:50] <dummy4ever> um, where do i put the subnet numbers?
[01:50] <serum> i wonder why i couldnt install it from the console??
[01:50] <arricka> how do i set up a default printer?
[01:50] <ksmurf> after u changed your sources did u apt-get update?
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> jpfarias: yes
[01:50] <ksmurf> Anyone have experience with wacom pads?
[01:50] <godzero> sub net =255.255.255.0, IPs=192.168.1.100, 192.168.1.101
[01:50] <serum> yea ksmurf
[01:51] <jpfarias> HrdwrBoB, so, why not on linux?
[01:51] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[01:51] <ksmurf> serum.... maybe the package was named diffrently
[01:51] <serum> I see all of theese weird little problems in ubuntu
[01:51] <zorba64> LadyLinux: hello
[01:51] <serum> :/
[01:51] <LadyLinux> I'm having problems getting my modem to run.
[01:51] <az[a] zel> hmm, big update today
[01:51] <caonex> Anybody here who has successfully installed ndiswrapper for amd64?
[01:51] <az[a] zel> serum, there are weird little problems in every OS
[01:51] <dazvid> az[a] zel: thats what i was wondering
[01:51] <serum> true but...
[01:51] <az[a] zel> serum, even my favourite OS (Mac OS X) pisses me off
[01:51] <ksmurf> srrum .... it's still being developed for that reason
[01:52] <dazvid> 102 packages?
[01:52] <ironuckles> How do I connect to my bluetooth mouse? I can see it through hciconfig, now how do I connect to it?
[01:52] <LadyLinux> I attempted to install sl-modem-daemon and it needs sl-modem-modules-new and there is no pakcage.
[01:52] <dummy4ever> ok, guess i'll do a little reading/searching. thanks anyway folks. sorry i didn't know where to put that stuff.
[01:52] <masterloki> zorba64, Hi there the installation has finished and now I have no X
[01:52] <ksmurf> Wacom anyone?
[01:52] <cevizoglu> grshptr: are you sure you downloaded compatible themes?
[01:52] <masterloki> zorba64, it seems that config file is broken
[01:52] <rob_p> hrmmm!
[01:53] <Plazma> so i take it everyone in here that is using ubuntu is very very happy with it?
[01:53] <az[a] zel> i got a big update in auto-update for xorg today
[01:53] <ksmurf> masterloki.... what grapics card?
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Plazma: yes, very  :)
[01:53] <bimberi> dummy4ever: System -> Administration -> Networking, click on ethernet interface, click Properties button, Static IP, two different (but close) addresses on each machine, netmask 255.255.255.0, no gateway
[01:53] <az[a] zel> 50MB! :) lucky I have 1.5Mbps broadband, heh
[01:53] <masterloki> zorba64, ATI radeon
[01:53] <zorba64> masterloki: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and answer any questions
[01:53] <cevizoglu> !tell grshptr about themes
[01:53] <Plazma> i was using deb unstable.. was great.. then i got dep and broken packages
[01:53] <masterloki> how can I open another page
[01:53] <ironuckles> az[a] zel, everyone who ran update did ;-)
[01:53] <Plazma> and i got sick of it..
[01:53] <dazvid> az[a] zel: My update thing says about 103mb.. however some of the versions are the same as what I already have?
[01:53] <arricka> can anyone help me set up a default printer?
[01:53] <ksmurf> Wacom anyone? I'm wondering where I would put the xsetwacom command for startup
[01:53] <Plazma> and gentoo is.. well a loong not worth install to me
[01:53] <zorba64> masterloki: i cant help you with the raedon...someone else may have one
[01:53] <ksmurf> arricka HP?
[01:54] <cevizoglu> !tell arricka about anyone
[01:54] <arricka> yes
[01:54] <Plazma> i love dpkg
[01:54] <godzero> radeon, i got one
[01:54] <godzero> 9200
[01:54] <serum> ksmurf, wierd the mplayer synaptic found was from a .deb file I tried to install earlier
[01:54] <serum> not from any repo
[01:54] <serum> but that kind of explains why it wasnt in aptitude :P
[01:55] <godzero> masterloki: what do you need?
[01:55] <ksmurf> ah......
[01:55] <Plazma> from my reading ubuntu seems alot like debian. but with much newer packages and a less elitist fanbase
[01:55] <ksmurf> don't clear your cache often huh
[01:55] <grshpr> where should i find the theme i have installed into -/.themes? i cant find it in system - preferences - themes...
[01:55] <bimberi> Plazma: we're working on the elitism :)
[01:56] <cevizoglu> Plazma: it's not a lot like Debian. it's based off of Debian, but the overall os is much different
[01:56] <Plazma> cevizoglu, really?
[01:56] <ksmurf> Wacom anyone? I'm wondering where I would put the xsetwacom command for startup. PLS?
[01:56] <Plazma> bimberi, please dont lol.. i dislike elitism :D
[01:56] <bushk> ndiswrapper works!!
[01:56] <az[a] zel> I chose ubuntu because: a) debian based, b) timely 6 month releases followign the gnome schedule, c) large and active community, d) easy upgrades to next distro (apt-get)
[01:56] <funkyHat> if i had alsa 1.0.9b compiled on my system already, will upgrading to breezy overwrite it with the proper package?
[01:56] <serum> grshpr, it might be a metacity theme or something similiar
[01:56] <bimberi> Plazma: kidding! (and i know you knew that :) )
[01:56] <serum> are you shure it was a gtk theme?
[01:56] <Plazma> bimberi.. hehe yea i did
[01:56] <ironuckles> Okay, I run in terminal: hcitool -scan. I get: 00:C0:DF:6C:5E:C0 as my mouse's address. How do I Connect to to?
[01:57] <tga> Plazma, we don't really need to know what you're playing, thanks
[01:57] <godzero> master loki: do you want my xorg.conf
[01:57] <Plazma> tga.. sure ya do :d
[01:57] <D1> I asked this before but...
[01:57] <grshpr> serum: what should i do with a metacity theme?
[01:57] <D1> who owns an ALL-IN-ONE printer and what brand?
[01:57] <D1> I'm looking for an NON-HP
[01:58] <zorba64> LadyLinux: try these pages :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/SmartLinkModem?highlight=%28smartlink%29 && https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 &
[01:58] <D1> since ink is cheaper.
[01:58] <D1> well
[01:58] <D1> I need a scanner
[01:58] <D1> but I can't find a working one with sane
[01:58] <D1> at the store anyway
[01:58] <delaney> the ubuntu live cd allows me to use my hdb1  but for some reason after installing 5.04 i am unable to access hdb1 at all.. i checked in cfdisk for fun to see if hdb1 showed up and it doesnt
[01:58] <delaney> any suggestions?
[01:58] <tga> get a scanner then.. flatbeds are more useful than all in one fax-like scanners anyway
[01:58] <Plazma> i was a huge fan of the ubuntu live cd
[01:58] <harrytuttle> D1: some epsons all in one works ok. maybe not the most recent ones, haven't checked
[01:58] <D1> any suggestions on what model/brand?
[01:59] <jdbolt> hey, can anyone tel me how I can find my interal IP addresss?
[01:59] <D1> for scanner that is...
[01:59] <tga> delaney, cfdisk looks at your /dev/hda by default.. of course you can use your hdb1 as long as it's there
[01:59] <jdbolt> from the shell?
[01:59] <tga> jdbolt, ifconfig
[01:59] <tga> jdbolt, sudo ifconfig rather
[01:59] <DaMi3n> where does mplayer search for codecs??
[01:59] <D1> something that works well for linux and isn't terribly old or expensive.
[01:59] <delaney> tga,  its installed and in the computer.. set to slave.. and ive added it into my fstab
[01:59] <jdbolt> ipconfig is windows
[01:59] <Plazma> cevizoglu, mind if i /msg you
[01:59] <delaney> tga,  as far as i know ive done it right.. yet nothing
[01:59] <zorba64> DaMi3n: /usr/lib/win32
[01:59] <tga> delaney, try to mount it manually and see what happens
[01:59] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : what abt /usr/lib/codecs??
[01:59] <jdbolt> tga, is there a linux version of ipconfig
[02:00] <tga> jdbolt, sudo ifconfig
[02:00] <Plazma> jdbolt, ifconfig
[02:00] <delaney> tga,  mind helping me on that.. ive always just used fstab
[02:00] <tga> delaney, mkdir /mnt/someplace && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/someplace
[02:00] <delaney> tga,  created the /mnt/media mount point and all that like on the ubuntu guide
[02:00] <zorba64> DaMi3n: if you like, but link to /usr/lib/win32 to play it safe
[02:00] <arricka> can anyone help me with setting a default printer?
[02:00] <tga> delaney, right, then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/media
[02:00] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : kk tx
[02:00] <harrytuttle> D1: epson cx series
[02:01] <D1> bimberi, is that a scanner or AIO?
[02:01] <delaney> tga,  that works
[02:01] <Plazma> bimberi, mind if i /msg you?
[02:01] <dazvid> arricka: you should just be able to go into "System > administration > printing"
[02:01] <delaney> tga,  so im gonna assume my fstab is wrong?
[02:01] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : i have installled mplayed as well as w32codecs
[02:01] <tga> delaney, what is your hdb1 fstab line?
[02:01] <D1> harrytuttle, I was about to buy one, but then I read the terrible reviews about the ink.
[02:01] <bimberi> Plazma: sure
[02:01] <jdbolt> tga, i cant see an app called ipconfig
[02:01] <DaMi3n> zorba64, yet mplayer cant play rmf iles
[02:01] <bimberi> D1: all in one
[02:01] <D1> ah
[02:01] <delaney> tga,  /dev/hdb1    /mnt/media   vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask000   0    0
[02:01] <D1> now that I think of it
[02:01] <delaney> tga,  taken from ubuntuguide
[02:01] <zorba64> DaMi3n: rm as it realplayer files?
[02:01] <D1> my pixma ip2000 works ok
[02:02] <DaMi3n> zorba64, yes
[02:02] <D1> so I'd rather go for a scanner
[02:02] <jdbolt> lol, GOT IT!
[02:02] <az[a] zel> i actually really like gnome/ubuntu. i haven't been happy using my PC for ages (used to run mdk 10.0). I used to want to buy an iMac. heh... yay, this is cool (ok, it's only day 3 of me using ubuntu)
[02:02] <Plazma> question, why from what i have heard and read, a lot of straight Debian users despise Ubuntu?
[02:02] <tga> delaney, first of all it's umask=0.. you need an equal sign in there
[02:02] <D1> lets see what ubuntu specifically supports in its HCL
[02:02] <harrytuttle> D1: well, if we cut out epsons for the ink, hp for some other reasons, lexmark because of zero drivers available, i don't think there are much other all in one
[02:02] <zorba64> have a look in the codecs dir to see if they are there otherwise you may have to install realplayer fot linux
[02:02] <delaney> tga,  its there sorry i missed it on typing it out
[02:03] <zorba64> Plazma: you would have to ask in #debian and see what happens
[02:03] <concept10> Plazma: because they hate the attention other distros get IMFO
[02:03] <Plazma> zorba64, haha, i dont want to get kicked
[02:03] <D1> theres gotta be a middle ground
[02:04] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : umm i can play files using gmplayer but mplayer is unable to play it frm the terminal
[02:04] <funkyHat> Plazma, i use straight debian as well as ubuntu
[02:04] <tga> delaney, it looks right.. try getting rid of iocharset=utf8 unless you really need it
[02:04] <D1> but anywho, forget AIO now. I need a standalone scanner, better yet.
[02:04] <funkyHat> i prefer ubuntu for a desktop, as it's easier to configure
[02:04] <Plazma> i was just kinda curious becuase i read a few articles from die hard Debian zealots.. dissing ubuntu full out, but never really told a reason why
[02:04] <concept10> dpes amupme still use windows here?
[02:04] <Madpilot> D1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:04] <funkyHat> but from experience ubuntu plain sucks as a headless server :P
[02:04] <delaney> tga,  ok
[02:04] <az[a] zel> ubuntu seems to be more desktop oriented, rather than server oriented, anyway
[02:04] <D1> yeah, was just about to head there. =]  thanks
[02:05] <zorba64> DaMi3n: mplayer from the terminal needs a few switches to play properly, you will have to read up on it
[02:05] <funkyHat> well, any kind of server ;)
[02:05] <concept10> Anyone still use windows here?
[02:05] <Plazma> ahh.. that pretty much answers it
[02:05] <Plazma> concept10, i use many os's.. windows happens to be one of them
[02:05] <zorba64> concept10: eewwwww!!!
[02:05] <az[a] zel> concept10, I dual boot with winXP to use steam, play otehr games, etc
[02:05] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : the codecs are all there and its able to detect that the file is a rmvb file
[02:05] <concept10> Im wondering is there a windows IRC channel
[02:05] <LasseL> funkyHat, I am pretty happy with my ubuntu server
[02:05] <jamie_1> hey everyone, question...................
[02:05] <Plazma> yea, if steam had a linux client i would definatly be full blown linux
[02:05] <crimsun> you can play steam games under wine/cedega
[02:05] <az[a] zel> valve are SO locked into windows..
[02:05] <DaMi3n> zorba64, REAL file format detected.
[02:05] <DaMi3n> Requested audio codec family [ra10cook]  (afm=realaud) not available.
[02:06] <funkyHat> LasseL, it's probably fine, i just had a really hard time once getting apache/php to work _at all_ so it put me off :P
[02:06] <concept10> I use linux so much, ive forgotten how to do thing in windows
[02:06] <jamie_1> if i am going to stream on the net, how would my volume control settings work on Kubuntu?
[02:06] <evian> what is steam?
[02:06] <Plazma> crimsun, but native is much better IMHO
[02:06] <LasseL> funkyHat, apache sucks :p
[02:06] <tga> concept10, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <Plazma> i dont do a lot of steam anymore though.. mostly UT and guildwars and bodog.net poker
[02:06] <zorba64> DaMi3n: its a :http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=RMVB
[02:06] <bimberi> D1: the hplip drivers work really well with my HP AIO, printing is high quality although I haven't tried photo-printing yet
[02:06] <funkyHat> LasseL, do you use a different http server? (and that's not the point:P)
[02:06] <concept10> no ones there
[02:06] <LasseL> funkyHat, I just run java
[02:06] <Plazma> and the linux ver of ut 2004 comes with the dvds
[02:07] <Plazma> LadyLinux, a project idea?
[02:07] <funkyHat> LasseL, java sucks :P
[02:07] <zorba64> DaMi3n: sounds linek you will nead realplayer
[02:07] <DaMi3n> zorba64, i have that
[02:07] <godzero> ll: ide?
[02:07] <zorba64> LadyLinux: to do what?
[02:07] <bimberi> D1: scanning work well too (i forgot to say :) )
[02:07] <DaMi3n> zorba64, but b4 a reinstallation mplayer used to play them
[02:08] <bimberi> *works
[02:08] <DaMi3n> zorba64, those are the file extension details ...
[02:08] <masterloki> zorba64, pheew... after all this I'm now in breezy
[02:08] <zorba64> DaMi3n: u use kde or gnome or ??
[02:09] <masterloki> what happend with open terminal in Gnome (right click)?
[02:09] <zorba64> masterloki: welcome my son!!! and congrats...it is almost a rite-of-passage
[02:09] <DaMi3n> zorba64, gnome
[02:09] <LadyLinux> zorba94:  I have a program that needs the command 'java' and I tried to install sun java and it didn't work with the program.
[02:09] <DaMi3n> LadyLinux, set the path
[02:10] <zorba64> To ALL!! can someone help DaMi3n with preferred apps in gnome?? i use kde atm
[02:10] <Plazma> prefered apps?
[02:10] <Plazma> hmm
[02:10] <LasseL> funkyHat, I'd try this one if I were you: http://www.lighttpd.net/
[02:10] <DaMi3n> umm tx
[02:10] <LadyLinux> DaMi3n:  How do I set the path?
[02:10] <DaMi3n> i can play rm/rmvb files using gmplayer but mplayer is unable to play it frm the terminal.. how do i solve this ??
[02:10] <DaMi3n> LadyLinux, : have u installled java
[02:10] <Madpilot> Plazma: kill the nowplaying, thanks.
[02:11] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, if you want to set a different default application for a file type, right click on any file of that type, click properties, then click the 'Open With' tab, and choose the application you want to use
[02:11] <evian> does anyone use skype on ubuntu?
[02:11] <Plazma> Madpilot, why? its not hurting anyone
[02:11] <LadyLinux> DaMi3n:  Yes.
[02:11] <Madpilot> Plazma: hmmm... and if everyone decided to run it?
[02:11] <funkyHat> evian, try to ;), i have an awkward soundcard configuration though. it would work perfectly if i didn't
[02:11] <Master`> hi guys
[02:11] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : i just want to be able to play files from the terminal
[02:11] <Master`> i need help
[02:11] <sorush20> reiki:
[02:11] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : i just want to be able to play files from the terminal using mplayer
[02:11] <Plazma> Madpilot, they havent though right? and i doub't they will
[02:11] <reiki> sorush20,
[02:12] <sorush20> reiki: I am able to copy the cd it seems..
[02:12] <evian> funkyHat: did the GUI look crappy?
[02:12] <Madpilot> Plazma: so why should you?
[02:12] <Plazma> Madpilot, i dunno cuz i felt like it, why does it bother you so much?
[02:12] <reiki> sorush20,  interesting
[02:12] <zorba64> DaMi3n: mplayer --help
[02:12] <DaMi3n> LadyLinux, : ok then type path=/pathtojdkdirectory/bin/
[02:12] <az[a] zel> anyone using lyx?
[02:12] <godzero> LadyLinux: it depends on which version you installed
[02:12] <funkyHat> evian, no, it looked fine (you realise it is a Qt app, so it will use the KDE theme, not the gnome (most windows use this one) theme
[02:12] <joh> I'm really having trouble with gdm and it's Xsession here :(
[02:12] <funkyHat> )
[02:13] <ATAKA_bg> I Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?
[02:13] <joh> it doesn't source my ~/.gnomerc
[02:13] <vanberge> if i were on gnome-look.org.  should i be looking under gtk 2.x or "metacity" ? :-)   using hoary
[02:13] <sorush20> reiki: no sorry false I am not able to copy.. it still has errors at reading..
[02:13] <IRCMonkey> can anyone tell me why i should use ubuntu over fedora?  i'm about to install a webserver at home
[02:13] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : the problem is that codecs are all there put mplayer cant seem to find them
[02:13] <bimberi> IRCMonkey: ... and you're asking *here* :)
[02:13] <DaMi3n> zorba64, Requested video codec family [rv3040]  (vfm=realvid) not available.
[02:13] <Master`> guys i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do
[02:13] <evian> yeah but my KDE theme looks ok. This app doesn't even track the mouse when I click on a menu item. I have to re-click to select another menu
[02:13] <amonkey> whats the name of the apt thing where you tell it to look for just a certain package in a different repo? i want to google it but i can't remember the name.
[02:13] <cevizoglu> IRCMonkey: that would flood the channel, better to try and see how it works for you
[02:13] <Plazma> mkyb14, because Ubuntu has a superior package system, its not nearly as bloated
[02:13] <sorush20> how do I find out the properties of the CDRW.. the last session etc..
[02:13] <bytefoo> i can tell you why you should use neither if you're only going to use it as a webserver :|
[02:13] <ATAKA_bg> I Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?
[02:13] <LadyLinux> godzero: I installed ver.4
[02:14] <mkyb14> is it easy to use?  more user friendly than slackware
[02:14] <carlos_> hello I need help
[02:14] <zorba64> DaMi3n: your codec are in /usr/lib/codecs  ?
[02:14] <LadyLinux> godzero: I am getting netzero to run.
[02:14] <mkyb14> why neither
[02:14] <magnon> bytefoo: why not, server install
[02:14] <evian> I guess I should try another common QT app and see if it is the same
[02:14] <magnon> mkyb14: do a server install of ubuntu, it works like a charm - and for a slim install the package manager is important, and apt is far superior to RPM imo.
[02:15] <Master`> who's getting the questions around here ?
[02:15] <az[a] zel> xfig pics won't preview in lyx :(
[02:15] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : bot in /usr/lib/codecs and usr/lib/win32
[02:15] <D1> does anyone know whats a desirable scanner resolution?
[02:15] <magnon> mkyb14: also I trust ubuntu in terms of updates and releases more than fedora ;)
[02:15] <tga> D1, 600dpi or over I guess
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> D1: yeah what tga said
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> take a higher res scan
[02:15] <mkyb14> sweet, i'll do that then.  fedora i've been having some issues with just trying to get mysql installed ... i'll try this now
[02:15] <snausages> do i need gcc if i want to install a program from the source?
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> then scale it down in software
[02:15] <DaMi3n> zorba64, : if gmplayer can detect them then why cant mplayer find the codecs as well
[02:15] <magnon> mkyb14: good luck :)
[02:15] <zorba64> DaMi3n: i can only suggest ldconfig -v && symlinks -cdrsv /   to tidy things up a bit with libraries and symlinks
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: yes you will need 'build-essential'
[02:16] <D1> ah ok.
[02:16] <zorba64> DaMi3n: good question...dunno
[02:16] <Master`> who's getting the questions around here ?
[02:16] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, so just apt-get install build-essential ?
[02:16] <Master`> nobody rolling this channel ?
[02:16] <DaMi3n> zorba64, l0l .. k tx anyways
[02:16] <Madpilot> Master`: "rolling"?
[02:16] <ATAKA_bg> I Have Monitor that supports 1152x864@100Hz, but in Ubuntu only 85Hz, i set the vertical and the horizontal rate in xorg.conf but still 85Hz ?!?
[02:16] <ATAKA_bg> can somebody help plz
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: yes
[02:16] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> ATAKA_bg: see that URL
[02:16] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, thank you
[02:16] <pluffsy> hello
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: you may need more though
[02:17] <Master`> i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do ?
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: what are you trying to install
[02:17] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, gaim 1.5
[02:17] <godzero> LadyLinux: try "locate j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java"
[02:17] <grshpr> i have installed serveral gdm-themes into -/.themes, where can i install them from now?
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: gaim 1.5 is in the official backports, iirc
[02:17] <godzero> That'll tell you where it is, then add that to your path
[02:17] <magnon> Master`: I have no idea about modems to be honest, but can you be more specific?
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> !backports
[02:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:17] <pluffsy> Just installed 5.10 preview and when I try to setup the network via the Networking gui I get "Failed to run netowrk-admin as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" will I need to create a root account or what?
[02:17] <grshpr> i cant find them in the gui-themes.
[02:18] <funkyHat> grshpr, are you sure they are gdm themes? gdm is the login screen
[02:18] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, as well as rhythmbox 0.9 and sound juicer 2.12
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> pluffsy: did you put in your password correctly?
[02:18] <vanberge> grshpr, what window manager?
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: I don't know, check it out:)
[02:18] <funkyHat> grshpr, if they are gdm themes, they shouldn't be in ~/.themes at all
[02:18] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, i'm trying :p
[02:18] <LasseL> funkyHat, did you check out lighthttpd ?
[02:18] <pluffsy> HrdwrBoB: It's just my user password? right? the same I use to login?
[02:18] <grshpr> funkyHat: where should they be at?
[02:18] <zorba64> Master`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles
[02:18] <grshpr> vanberge: nautalius
[02:18] <carlos_> hello I need help
[02:18] <carlos_> I'm trying to install the kernel sources to install a PCtel modem, I did sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 and that puts a *.bz2 with the kernel in /usr/src but that doesn't work for the setup of the modem, it keeps asking me for the sources
[02:18] <pluffsy> HrdwrBoB: when I just typed something random it said "bad password"
[02:18] <Master`> i am using creative modem (dialup) and the ubuntu didn't detect my modem to let me connect throw internet
[02:19] <IRCMonkey> hey ... does anyone know away of converting MSN Messenger 7 or 7.5 to linux or a msn messenger substutue for linux that supports webcam and audio?
[02:19] <carlos_> what more should I need to do?
[02:19] <tga> carlos_, do you have a /usr/src/linux symlink pointing to the current sources?
[02:19] <delaney> *confused* by fstab
[02:19] <vanberge> grshpr, some how i dont think nautilus is your window manager :-)  but if you are using gnome, you just open the theme configuration utility and drag the tar.gz file onto it.  it will install automatically
[02:19] <sorush20> reiki: could you have a look at the screenshot and see if the inforamtion is correct http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2124
[02:19] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, i have the hoary-backports in my sources.list - should i use breezy?
[02:19] <evian> who uses mac OS X ?
[02:19] <tga> evian, nobody
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> snausages: you can use breezy
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> there may be a few issues
[02:19] <funkyHat> IRCMonkey, there is currently no Linux client for MSN that supports a webcam. gaim-vv (audio/viual fork of gaim) possibly supports the audio though
[02:19] <cevizoglu> !tell evian about anyone
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> but afaik it should work for the most part
[02:20] <snausages> HrdwrBoB, i don't see gaim 1.5 on there
[02:20] <carlos_> tga, I think not, but how I check that?
[02:20] <zorba64> IRCMonkey: try amsn
[02:20] <tga> carlos_, ls -al /usr/src
[02:20] <grshpr> vanberge: got a file format message.
[02:20] <funkyHat> zorba64, does amsn support cam/audio?
[02:20] <IRCMonkey> i tried amsn
[02:20] <LadyLinux> Crap. 3hour download.  :(
[02:20] <Tommck> I want to run my ubuntu box in text-only mode with networking support (what I'd consider runlevel 3 normally) and want to be able to configure which servers run at that runlevel.  Is there a NON-manual way to set this up?
[02:20] <grshpr> vanberge: how could i see what windows manager i have?
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu2
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> that's in breezy
[02:20] <zorba64> funkyHat: not sure...go have a read
[02:21] <crimsun> Tommck: BUM. Search the wiki.
[02:21] <vanberge> grshpr, when you are about to log in, click on "sessions" and see what is selected to start
[02:21] <evian> I think there is a command called "open" in mac OS X, which launches a file from a shell as though you double clicked it. I wondered if there is a linux equivalent these days
[02:21] <godzero> LadyLinux: dialup?
[02:21] <Tommck> ok
[02:21] <grshpr> vanberge: i was pretty sure it was nautilus, cause it say so on boot up.
[02:21] <crimsun> Tommck: s/wiki/forum/
[02:21] <vanberge> grshpr, if you have never changed it, then it is gnome.
[02:21] <tga> evian, applications -> run
[02:21] <Tommck> crimsun - where's the forum?
[02:21] <LadyLinux> godzero: Yes.
[02:21] <reiki> sorush20, that information appears to be correct to me, but in honesty, I am not all that well versed in all the various aspects of CD writing.
[02:21] <Tommck> oh.. got it
[02:21] <LadyLinux> godzero: Netzero.
[02:21] <grshpr> vanberge: oh, so i should change it too nautilus? this is ubuntu ppc if that might affect...
[02:21] <zorba64> funkyHat: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[02:21] <nalioth_wrkn> evian: yes, there is: command <argument>
[02:21] <vanberge> oh ok... yeah might be...
[02:21] <evian> tga: I don't mean an executable
[02:22] <tga> evian, neither do I
[02:22] <vanberge> grshpr, i wouldnt be qualified to help much then.  sorry :-)
[02:22] <evian> ok
[02:22] <nalioth> evian: like this: run > application > gedit filename.txt
[02:22] <evian> thanks nalioth
[02:22] <grshpr> vanberge: where do i change to nautilus? on sessions?
[02:22] <tga> evian, afaik the Run app executes a file:/// link of your file
[02:22] <nalioth> evian: or open a terminal and: gedit filename.txt
[02:22] <grshpr> do i have to logout?
[02:22] <nalioth> evian: OSX makes things SOOO diffecult to run from the terminal
[02:22] <grshpr> vanberge: *
[02:22] <tga> or just run > filename.txt, provided gedit is the default editor
[02:23] <vanberge> grshpr, probably...   at log in screen, click 'sessions' to see what it says there
[02:23] <grshpr> ok
[02:23] <cevizoglu> speaking of which, which is the command to open the file browser?
[02:23] <grshpr> vanberge: thx, ill try that then. thx!
[02:23] <LadyLinux> later and thanx all.
[02:24] <zorba64> cevizoglu: nautilus --no-desktop
[02:24] <carlos_> tga, what is a symlink?
[02:24] <evian> but lets say I don't know what program will deal with a given file
[02:24] <tga> carlos_, a symlink is like a file system shortcut.. it looks like a dir or file but it's just a link someplace else
[02:24] <cevizoglu> evian: so nautilus --no-desktop  == "open ." in Mac OS X
[02:24] <pluffsy> hmm the time seems to be set to zero (year 1970). and the system keeps asking me to switch to a new password everytime I do something
[02:24] <cevizoglu> evian: and firefox www.apple.com == "open /Applications/Firefox.app"
[02:24] <tga> carlos_, you create a symlink with `ln -s SOURCE DESTINATION`
[02:24] <pluffsy> and I can't change the time because I need root for that
[02:24] <pluffsy> arr
[02:24] <pluffsy> :(
[02:25] <vanberge> there isnt a ubuntu package for mozilla composer?  dang!
[02:25] <tga> carlos_, afaik /usr/src/linux should point to the current kernel sources
[02:25] <pluffsy> do you think the incorrect clock is the problem?
[02:25] <evian> thanks cevizoglu!
[02:25] <tga> carlos_, also make sure you have the right sources.. you can see what kernel you're running with `uname -a`
[02:25] <cevizoglu> evian: yw
[02:25] <Master`> guys i downloaded linux 5.4 and that system didn't detect my modem , i am using dialup , what to do ?
[02:25] <Master`> any idea
[02:26] <evian> nautilus --no-desktop
[02:26] <evian> that's what I was looking for
[02:26] <carlos_> tga, thank you man! and sorry, I'm just another newbie here :P
[02:26] <Tommck> ok... I'm running BUM now... anyone want to tell me what the heck "S10" and "K90" mean ?
[02:26] <funkyHat> Master`, can we have some more information, did you install ubuntu, or just use the live CD, and what modem do you have?
[02:27] <zorba64> Master`: did you go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles
[02:27] <tga> carlos_, no problem, I hope that fixes your problem
[02:27] <Master`> i installed ubuntu
[02:27] <Master`> and i am using creative
[02:27] <bimberi> Tommck: ok, S - means that the item will be started, K means it will be killed, the numbe indicates tha order in which things are started and killed
[02:27] <Tommck> bimberi - ahh.. ok
[02:28] <Tommck> ubuntu seems a little strange in its runlevel usage.
[02:28] <tga> heh, good old init
[02:28] <arbir> hello
[02:28] <Master`> funkyHat
[02:28] <tga> what's the default runlevel in Ubuntu?
[02:28] <Tommck> bimberi - there doesn't seem to be a non-graphical login with networking support option (normally runlevel 3)
[02:28] <arbir> 2
[02:28] <Tommck> 2 is the default
[02:28] <arbir> runlevel 2
[02:28] <arbir> hi Tommck
[02:28] <tga> alright
[02:28] <Master`> i installed ubuntu , my modem is creative
[02:28] <bimberi> Tommck: no there isn't, 2-5 are the same
[02:29] <sorush20> reiki: did you take a look at the screenshot
[02:29] <reiki> sorush20,  yes... did you see my comment on it here?
[02:29] <arbir> i am trying to install the totem-xine player and it wants to remove my ubuntu-desktop package .. why is that ?
[02:29] <Tommck> bimberi - unusual (same number of "u"s... coincidence?)
[02:29] <Tommck> if I don't want graphical login, I just unselect gdm?
[02:29] <bimberi> Tommck: lol, perhaps
[02:29] <bimberi> Tommck: yes
[02:29] <pluffsy> all settings I try from the administrator menu gives the same error "Failed to run foo as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" :(
[02:30] <pluffsy> ANY ideas at all?
[02:30] <Tommck> this is complicated... SuSE's runlevel editor is really simple
[02:30] <bimberi> Tommck: ... and hence an opportunity for you to write something better for ubuntu.  I look forward to using it :)
[02:30] <Tommck> how do I select the runlevel that I want to edit?
[02:31] <Tommck> bimberi - I 've been using it for 12 hours now
[02:31] <tga> Tommck, install sysvconfig
[02:31] <masterloki> zorba64, does gnome-terminal is still on Gnome 2.12
[02:31] <arbir> can anybody please help me ?
[02:31] <Tommck> tga - apt-get install sysvconfig ... no package
[02:31] <arbir> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2126  <-- here is the problem
[02:31] <Stark> godzero: Hey, it's me again. I tried to download Knoppix, but it kept failing
[02:31] <bimberi> Tommck: hehe, and you haven't developed something already? come on :)
[02:32] <funkyHat> arbir, don't worry about removing the ubuntu-desktop package, it's just a virtual package
[02:32] <Tommck> bimberi - didn't think I'd need to already
[02:32] <tga> Tommck, it's in the Universe repository
[02:32] <Epix> error while upgrading to breezy: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):   trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python
[02:32] <arbir> when i try to install totem-xine it wants to un-install my ubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <zorba64> Tommck: sudo apt-cache search runlevel
[02:32] <Tommck> tga - ahhh.. that's why I don't see it
[02:32] <ApesMa> Moving my wife to Hoary Hedgehog from FC3--thunderbird seemingly imports mail fine from .mozilla; files all appear to be there and prefs.js has appropriate pathnames...but when she runs thunderbird, the accounts are shown but no folders. What am I overlooking?
[02:32] <nalioth> arbir: just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop before you dist upgrade
[02:32] <carlos_> tga, man! the same problem, can you check my paste bin please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2128
[02:32] <masterloki> how do I set up an enviroment variable for javac??
[02:33] <arbir> nalioth i am not trying to upgrade my distro
[02:33] <bimberi> Tommck: there will be differences of course.  Having mainly used debian based distros I don't know much about runlevels
[02:33] <Xorlev_> ApesMa: Try changing the option 'relative' to yes in profiles.ini? I had to do that when I pulled my stuff from Windows.
[02:33] <nalioth> arbir: fine. not having ubuntu-desktop when you DO dist upgrade will cause a few problems
[02:33] <arbir> nalioth ia m just trying to install that player
[02:33] <ApesMa> Xorlev: tnx 1e6; will give that a try.
[02:33] <arbir> funkyhat let me try
[02:33] <Epix> hmm, that error was missing a part: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:33] <Epix>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py'
[02:33] <cevizoglu> Tommck: have you tried System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup?
[02:33] <zorba64> arbir: you can have totem witha gstreamer backend or a xine backend...not both
[02:33] <Tommck> cevizoglu - no...
[02:34] <tga> carlos_, sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 /usr/src/linux
[02:34] <tga> carlos_, as shown at the end of your paste, the script looks for the sources in /usr/src/linux
[02:34] <arbir> zorba64: right
[02:34] <arbir> is now changing totem with xine as backend
[02:35] <Stark> Could someone help me? Ubuntu hangs at "boot"
[02:35] <az[a] zel> is there an advantage to having totem use xine?
[02:35] <az[a] zel> things seem to be playing in it fine with gstreamer for me...
[02:35] <Tommck> cevizoglu - I don't see anything in there that lets me not run Gnome on start
[02:35] <meko_> i tried to transfered my hard disk to another computer and had it boot up but it gave an error "I cannot star xserver not set correctly" how can i fix that ?
[02:35] <Tommck> that's what I want
[02:35] <Tommck> no X
[02:36] <robertj> az: Xine tends to suck less but if gstreamer is working fine then...errr no, there wouldn't be an advantage to switching
[02:36] <carlos_> tga, ok, let me fix that, thx
[02:36] <cevizoglu> Tommck: oh, I thought you wanted to switch off graphical login
[02:36] <funkyHat> meko_, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <zorba64> az[a] zel: no idea...stay with whatever works for u :)
[02:36] <Tommck> cevizoglu - I wasn't clear
[02:36] <ApesMa> az[a] zel: yes, there is, but I forget what it is--an article on GNOME 2.12 mentions changes to totem and says that one will no longer want to use xine.
[02:36] <funkyHat> meko_, log in and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <Epix> how do i make apt-get dist-upgrade skipa package
[02:36] <meko_> funkyHat, after it will be ok?
[02:36] <delaney> still no luck with the fstab entries from ubuntuguide..
[02:37] <delaney> im unsure why it mounts manually
[02:37] <Xorlev> tga: You want to extract it first. tar -xjf linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2, then link it.
[02:37] <delaney> and not with fstab
[02:37] <f00f> hi
[02:37] <Xorlev> delany: NTFS, SATA?
[02:37] <mpq> anyone have the broadcom BCM4306 wireless driver or knows where to get it?
[02:37] <funkyHat> meko_, i should think so, i think you will need to restart after that
[02:37] <delaney> Xorlev,  fat
[02:37] <Xorlev> delany: SATA?
[02:37] <tga> Xorlev, erm.. oops? good point
[02:37] <delaney> Xorlev, no
[02:37] <delaney> Xorlev, at least i dont think.  its just an old 20gig drive
[02:37] <Xorlev> Just a normal IDE drive?
[02:37] <delaney> Xorlev,  correct sir
[02:38] <tga> carlos_, as Xorlev is saying, you have to extract your sources first
[02:38] <Xorlev> What error does it give on boot?
[02:38] <meko_> i will try that ,funkyhat
[02:38] <delaney> Xorlev,  using /dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[02:38] <delaney> tried without iocharset=utf8 as well
[02:38] <Xorlev> iocharset I dropped. It caused my data to not load.
[02:39] <Xorlev> With my SATA drive it used to say: Special device /dev/sda does not exist. What error do you get?
[02:39] <Epix> I cant dist-upgrade to Breezy! Error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3
[02:39] <zorba64> delaney: add auto
[02:39] <cevizoglu> Tommck: you may be able to disable it from  /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:39] <CookedGryphon> I AM A GENIUS!!! lol i jsut made the best dial up connection script ever!!
[02:40] <pluffsy> when I try to set the year using date in the terminal I get "timestamp to long into the future".  how can I force it to change from 1970 to 2005?
[02:40] <carlos_> tga, I've extracted before and that doesn't work. thank you Xorlev
[02:40] <CookedGryphon> sorted my winmodem once n for all
[02:40] <delaney> zorba64,  where?
[02:40] <CookedGryphon> that taught the bastard
[02:40] <sells> CookedGryphon: really, will it work for most winmodems
[02:40] <arbir> will be back in a while
[02:40] <Xorlev> carlos_: I've done multiple kernel compiles, just extract the source, then sym link it to /usr/src/linux, go into that directory, make oldconfig, etc.
[02:40] <tga> carlos_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2131
[02:41] <tga> Xorlev, he only needs the sources to compile a modem driver
[02:41] <sorush20> reiki: thanks anyway.. but you see some of the file are read but not fully I just don't understand it... could you have a look at this screenshot.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2132  some of the file has been copied and the rest is black..
[02:41] <zorba64> delaney: /dev/hda1   /media/windows  vfat  auto,umask=000  0  0
[02:41] <Xorlev> tga: You probably want the headers then.
[02:41] <kritty> my silly husband (ksmurf) tried to upgrade me to breezy.  The issue is he broke my wifi in the process.  I see the card with lspci (DWL G520 AR 5212) but It doesn't show up in any network tool.  Any ideas on how to get the card reconized?
[02:42] <carlos_> tga, yep, only for that drivers
[02:42] <Xorlev> You need the kernel headers to compile kernel modules.
[02:42] <Epix> no help :(
[02:42] <vanberge> can mozilla composer do syntax hilighting does anybody know off the top of your head?  tks in advance!
[02:42] <tga> Xorlev, I don't know what that script wants, I only saw it looks for /usr/src/linux
[02:42] <nalioth> vanberge: do you need a wysiwyg html editor?
[02:43] <Tommck> how do you set the default runlevel?
[02:43] <Xorlev> carlos_: Install the kernel headers 2.6.10
[02:43] <CookedGryphon> sells, em, i suppose so, its just the slmodem one i'm using at the moment sometimes takes several attempts to connect, and this script checks for the slmodem daemon (and sets it off if it isn't running) checks for an existing pppd and kills it if necessary (sometimes it would stay running when i didn't want it to) then it dials up a ppp connection and monitors plog giving a message if there's no dialtone and if it connects, and if there's no carrier
[02:43] <CookedGryphon> it stops pppd and dials again till it works
[02:43] <CookedGryphon> sells, and i don't care what anyone else thinks cos i reckon its ace
[02:43] <vanberge> nalioth, surely your calling me a noob... but i'll bite.  whats that mean :-)
[02:43] <sells> CookedGryphon: my modem is not seen in linux
[02:43] <CookedGryphon> its better than the gnome dialing applet, cos it gives mroe feedback and lets u kno when its dialing (my winmodem doesn't make any sounds)
[02:44] <carlos_> Xorlev, ok, I hope that resolves the problem, :)
[02:44] <CookedGryphon> sells what type is it?
[02:44] <nalioth> vanberge: mozilla composer and nvu (and others i'm sure) are What You See Is What You Get html editors
[02:44] <sells> CookedGryphon: not quite sure, it is a toshiba laptop
[02:44] <bimberi> Tommck: edit /etc/inittab (near the top)
[02:44] <Tommck> bimberi - cool.. thanks
[02:44] <CookedGryphon> ah , look in system, administratiopn, device manager
[02:44] <tepus6> how do i install new networking protocols....
[02:44] <nalioth> vanberge: there are text based html editors WITH syntax highlighting
[02:44] <CookedGryphon> sells
[02:44] <bimberi> Tommck: yw :)
[02:44] <Xorlev> carlos_: All I needed to compile the nvidia proprietary drivers was the headers.
[02:44] <Tommck> bimberi - I thought I saw somethign that said you could do it in grub configuration too
[02:44] <sells> CookedGryphon: yes
[02:44] <jacky> hey guys
[02:44] <CookedGryphon> sells what modem does it list there.
[02:44] <jacky> i'm new to the ubuntu scene
[02:45] <vanberge> nalioth, bummer.  :-(
[02:45] <sells> CookedGryphon: hold one, will check
[02:45] <Xorlev> jacky: Neat =)
[02:45] <jacky> jk
[02:45] <bimberi> Tommck: you might, but i don't know sorry
[02:45] <jacky> i've been using ubuntu for 6 years
[02:45] <sells> CookedGryphon: how can I check
[02:45] <CookedGryphon> i think i jsut graduated from being a n00b with this script tho, it rocks my world!
[02:45] <nalioth> vanberge: iow, idk if composer or nvu have syntax highlighting, but i do know that bluefish does
[02:45] <kritty> sorry you are all busy.  I'll try again later
[02:45] <zorba64> jacky: i doubt it
[02:45] <CookedGryphon> sells look in system, administratiopn, device manager
[02:45] <Xorlev> CookedGryphon: You graduated from n00b to fresh meat.
[02:45] <bimberi> jacky: wow, that's impressive, considering it's been out for 11 months :) (you probably meant something else)
[02:46] <sells> CookedGryphon: okay
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> Xorlev, well its still better than n00b
[02:46] <Xorlev> CookedGryphon: Indeed.
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> Xorlev, tho u haven't seen how ace the script is
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> lol wanna see?
[02:46] <cevizoglu> bimberi: he meant in dog years
[02:46] <Epix> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2133 please look and help!
[02:46] <Xorlev> CookedGryphon: I use a ethernet connection, no need for a PPP dialer =)
[02:46] <bimberi> cevizoglu: lol
[02:47] <CookedGryphon> Xorlev, i mean just cos its a beautifl thing to look at :P
[02:47] <Xorlev> CookedGryphon: Send it over then =)
[02:47] <zeus1_> Guys wtf...my internet works in Windows XP but not ubuntu
[02:47] <tepus6> how do i install new networking protocols?
[02:47] <boman_>  /last cockedgry 15
[02:47] <boman_> ...
[02:47] <zorba64> kritty: prob no one here knows..maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles might help??
[02:47] <vanberge> nalioth, i dont think im going to be using either of them... neither nvu or composer seem to be able to read/edit php
[02:47] <sells> CookedGryphon: dont see it
[02:47] <zeus1_> ya same question tepus6...its not giving me option to add devices
[02:47] <Xorlev> zeus1_: Sometimes cards aren't detected correctly.
[02:48] <Epix> wow, can anyone hear me?
[02:48] <tepus6> hmmm
[02:48] <bimberi> Epix: no :)
[02:48] <zeus1_> Xorlev : Its the same card as before, we just moved the computer into my room and were using a wireless signal for the router
[02:48] <sorush20> does anyone here know if there is Roxio available for linux
[02:48] <CookedGryphon> Xorlev, lol u probs don't think its much but like i say, not bad 4 a n00b
[02:48] <nalioth> vanberge: try bluefish, quanta (there are others)
[02:48] <zeus1_> xorlev: before i moved the computer internet worked fine in ubuntu
[02:48] <kritty> epix... try uninstalling the confilicting package then reinstall the one u want
[02:48] <nalioth> sorush20: closest thing is k3b
[02:48] <CookedGryphon> Xorlev, and also it won't work if u run it cos it will try call the slmodemd drivers up
[02:49] <tepus6> zeus1_: ive decided tcp is too slow on my old hub...
[02:49] <Octane> okay wish me luck
[02:49] <zorba64> Epix: try sudo apt-get remove python-wxversion && sudo apt-get -f install
[02:49] <Octane> 510 upgrades
[02:49] <Octane> going on right no
[02:49] <Octane> w
[02:49] <Xorlev> CookedGryphon: Nice
[02:49] <vanberge> nalioth, thanks
[02:49] <CookedGryphon> sells, do u not see any reference to modem?
[02:49] <Epix> Package python-wxversion is not installed, so not removed, zorba64
[02:49] <sells> CookedGryphon: the only thing I see under PCI is realtek
[02:49] <tga> how come there are _no_ php5 packages?
[02:50] <pc4_> hi, have a problem. i have installed my printer and it worked fine but when i pulled out the plug and usb accidentally, and i put it back, it wont print using openofice anymore.only the test page it can but the open ofice it cant anymore.my printer is Canon S100SP and has a driver of S100 but when im going to install the driver of S200, it will print but in crasy way cos it should be S100 driver.
[02:50] <Octane> bimberi: LOL i will when i reboot! :)
[02:50] <zorba64> Epix: try sudo apt-get remove wxpython2.5.3 && sudo apt-get -f install
[02:50] <Octane> i know my internet will definitely not work
[02:50] <pc4_> help pls
[02:50] <bimberi> ah, k
[02:50] <CookedGryphon> sells try using scanmodem, follow thru this website http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[02:50] <zorba64> Epix: then try installing it after the upgrade completes successfully
[02:51] <sells> CookedGryphon: under network
[02:51] <vbgunz> is there anyway to check a wireless cards connection status? (good, low, very low)?
[02:51] <CookedGryphon> sells it won't b under network necessarily
[02:51] <tga> vbgunz, you can add the network monitor to your gnome panel
[02:51] <zeus1_> anyone help me fix my internet, my sound bug is gone now that Ive replaced my speakers, the network manager isnt letting me add new devices/connections but in the program help documentation screenshot it shows it with the "add" button so WTF
[02:51] <Epix> zorba64, now i get this when i distupgrade:  sudo apt-get remove wxpython2.5.3 && sudo apt-get -f install
[02:52] <sells> CookedGryphon: can I just go into a terminal
[02:52] <evian> is beagle worth installing?
[02:52] <pc4_> can someone help me with the problem i posted above please
[02:52] <stoeptegel> i was editting xorg.conf lately for support for my razer mouse, and saw my screen is setup at 24 bit color depth. Can i set this to 32 without getting in troubles?
[02:52] <tga> vbgunz, or take a look at the output of iwconfig.. you have the link quality in there
[02:52] <zorba64> Epix: try that past again
[02:52] <CookedGryphon> lol ok sells, paste ure lspci into #flood
[02:52] <vbgunz> I can't visit any sites with firefox... but I can chat in here... this just happened
[02:52] <h0sl3r> Any good disk defragmentors out there?
[02:52] <vbgunz> I think my connection might be shot... I need a way to tell how my connection to my wireless setup is doing... How do you tell?
[02:52] <sorush20> is it true that there is nero linux that we have to payfor...
[02:52] <zorba64> h0sl3r: wha 4
[02:52] <miketech> Hi
[02:52] <tga> vbgunz, if you can irc then your wifi link is alright
[02:52] <Octane> okay see you guys soon
[02:52] <Octane> i hope :)
[02:53] <zeus1_> is there anyyybody out theeeere
[02:53] <h0sl3r> zorba64: for faster disk
[02:53] <miketech> do you know xorg 7.0 packages for ubuntu?
[02:53] <miketech> just wanted to try it out
[02:53] <tga> vbgunz, what do you get when you try to get to a page in firefox?
[02:53] <miketech> or do i have to compile the source?
[02:53] <Epix> zorba64, ??? what past?
[02:53] <zeus1_> i cant even get a package from synaptic because i cant connect to the internet
[02:53] <pc4_> help plssss
[02:53] <tga> maybe the internet is down
[02:53] <zorba64> Epix: can you repeat your last question
[02:53] <tepus6> zeus1_ what are u trying to do/
[02:54] <Epix> zorba64, i now have 70 packages being held back. why?
[02:54] <tga> pc4_, try to use the correct driver.. also unplug the printer and plug it back in
[02:54] <meko> funkyhat i tried the command u gave me
[02:54] <zeus1_> tepus6: I just moved my computer in my room so we replaced all the old cords to the router with a wireless signal...now im having trouble setting it up in ubuntu while its working fine in windows XP
[02:54] <humble> try releasing dhcp ips in the router
[02:54] <tepus6> ahh wirless..
[02:54] <tepus6> wish i could help
[02:55] <zorba64> Epix: did you upgrade aor dist-upgrade?
[02:55] <stoeptegel> someone plz?
[02:55] <zeus1_> tepus6: its not even letting me add a new device/connection in the network manager
[02:56] <tga> stoeptegel, just use 24-bit, I don't think you can tell the difference anyway
[02:56] <meko> funkyhat, is there any autoconfiguration for that?
[02:56] <tepus6> i had the problem where ubuntu wouldnt even use my network...
[02:56] <tepus6> i couldnt ping use dhcp....
[02:56] <Epix> zorba64, dist
[02:56] <sorush20> how can I install .deb packages just by clicking on them
[02:56] <funkyHat> meko, did it work?
[02:56] <stoeptegel> thnx tga :)
[02:56] <tepus6> once i get the shipit cds they were able to work....
[02:56] <carlos_> tga, Xorlev, friends, I did it!!!, I mean... we did it!!, thank you guys, the headers were the solution ;)
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> sorush20, set the command to "dpkg -i " when you click on em
[02:57] <zorba64> Epix: can you paste the message and give me the url
[02:57] <tga> sorush20, I don't know about clicking, but from the console you `dpkg -i yourpackage.deb`
[02:57] <tga> sorush20, with sudo of course
[02:57] <masterloki> can someone tell me where can I find repos for breezy
[02:57] <zeus1_> this sucks...once i fix one problem i have to deal with another...its like never ending problems trying to use this OS...
[02:57] <Epix> zorba64, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.
[02:57] <tga> good job carlos_
[02:57] <meko> funkyhat ,it  did im kinda lazy in configuring and stuff heheheh
[02:57] <tepus6> anyone know how to change networking protocols?
[02:57] <tga> tepus6, be more specific
[02:57] <Xorlev> carlos_: Good to hear =)
[02:57] <tepus6> i dont want to use tcp....
[02:57] <tepus6> somthing faster
[02:57] <sorush20> CookedGryphon: tga, so the answer is no..
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> sorush20, eh, i was telling u u could
[02:58] <zorba64> Epix: so sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or sudo apt-get -f install doesn't help??
[02:58] <war-totem> god i love synaptic :)
[02:58] <funkyHat> meko, i don't think there's an autoconfigure... maybe look up some kind of hardware profiles thing?
[02:58] <Xorlev> tepus6: What else are you going to use BESIDES TCP? TCP, UDP, ICMP, SYN, etc. are all required protocols.
[02:58] <carlos_> tga, Xorlev, just a curiosity what is the difference between the sources I installed before and the headers?
[02:58] <tga> tepus6, sorry, you're pretty much stuck with tcp :)
[02:58] <zeus1_> how come its not letting me add a new network device? theres no add button there...all I see is my old modem connection which is disabled because its not connected anymore, anyone please help i cant even get into synaptic to get new packages
[02:58] <war-totem> any network experts here?
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> sorush20, right click and go to properties, open with, add, custom command "dpkg -i "
[02:58] <tepus6> i cant use netbios or netbeui?
[02:59] <Xorlev> carlos_: The headers are what the modules need to work. The source is the meat and potatoes of the actual kernel.
[02:59] <tga> carlos_, the headers don't contain the actual code, just the definition of the kernel functions
[02:59] <Epix> zorba64, no
[02:59] <funkyHat> meko, so you can create profiles for your different machines. i don't know if it's possible though
[02:59] <war-totem> does anyone know how to transfer files from winxp to ubuntu over a router?
[02:59] <war-totem> the two pcs are in the same room
[02:59] <Xorlev> war-totem: Samba
[03:00] <carlos_> okkkk, once again thank you guys, now I'm going to eat, I need it! :D
[03:00] <carlos_> bye
[03:00] <war-totem> ive never gotten it to work xorlev
[03:00] <zeus1_> how do you add a new network device in the network manager??
[03:00] <zorba64> Epix: try them after doing a sudo apt-get update and if they dont work, well they cant be upgraded at the moment
[03:00] <Xorlev> carlos_: Have a good meal =)
[03:00] <carlos_> thx
[03:00] <meko> funkyhat,so i guess i have it to do it manually :(
[03:00] <Xorlev> war-totem: Yes, samba is a bit odd at times. You could always setup FTP or webservers on each end?
[03:01] <tga> war-totem, install ssh on the ubuntu machine and use winscp
[03:01] <LincTeK> hey war-totem the september issue of tux magazine covers waht you are trying to do
[03:01] <amonkey> are there any good miniram aim clients
[03:01] <Xorlev> That works too/
[03:01] <war-totem> wow thanks guys
[03:01] <war-totem> whats the url for tux?
[03:01] <LincTeK> on-line ezine free
[03:01] <LincTeK> www.tuxmag.com
[03:01] <war-totem> tks
[03:01] <tga> over the lan I guess it's easiest to just apt-get install proftpd and use win explorer to copy the files
[03:02] <Epix> zorba64, nope, im gonna reboot
[03:02] <zeus1_> how do i add a new network device in the network manager anyone know before i have to log off plz
[03:02] <war-totem> ok, but is it possible that the two machines cant read each other?
[03:02] <tga> war-totem, ah, or even a better one.. share your folder on the win machine and use smbmount //winmachine/share /mnt/point to mount it on the ubuntu box
[03:02] <tga> war-totem, you'll have to install smbfs for that
[03:02] <war-totem> ok but how do i share a folder over a router?
[03:02] <Xorlev> Holy...what the...something is using ALL my SWAP.
[03:03] <war-totem> ive tried a lot of things
[03:03] <tga> war-totem, what does the router have to do with anything?
[03:03] <tga> war-totem, aren't your machines on the same lan?
[03:03] <war-totem> yes
[03:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know why xmms would stop playing after every song?
[03:03] <cevizoglu> war-totem: from each machine, can you ping the other?
[03:03] <war-totem> ill try
[03:03] <tga> war-totem, then you don't care about the router.. share the dir on windows and mount it on ubuntu.. then you don't have to worry about configuring servers on linux
[03:04] <war-totem> whats the command to find ip on linux?
[03:04] <tga> war-totem, sudo ifconfig
[03:04] <klex> I have installed ubuntu on a computer with a ISA soundcard. How do i get the soundcard to work?
[03:04] <zeus1_> how do you add a new network device in the network manager...its not letting me all options i have are : "Preferences/Activate/Disable" theres no add or remove like in the help documentation so the helper program is incorrect and Im really stuck HELP!!
[03:05] <tga> zeus1_, what are you trying to do?
[03:05] <masterloki> zeus1_, Are runnuning this with sudo??
[03:05] <zeus1_> trying to connect to the router so I can get on the internet in ubuntu
[03:05] <war-totem> ping is not doing anything
[03:05] <war-totem> its just sitting there
[03:05] <ColonelKernel> im trying to compile xchat, I need to have tcl installed to compile it correctly- what do I need to install
[03:06] <war-totem> i have shared my winxp folder
[03:06] <tga> war-totem, is this wired or wireless?
[03:06] <lucaz> I got a power fault, and I reboot my linux, but it says 'crc error System Halted'. What can I do?
[03:06] <zeus1_> tga: it was working before i got this new wireless signal. now it stopped working
[03:06] <war-totem> wired
[03:06] <masterloki> ColonelKernel, Have you tried the repos??
[03:06] <cevizoglu> war-totem, when run try in windows, ubuntu, or both?
[03:06] <zeus1_> masterloki - no im running this in windows xp
[03:06] <war-totem> run?
[03:06] <war-totem> im on ubuntu right now trying to ping the winxp
[03:06] <cevizoglu> war-totem, when you try
[03:06] <war-totem> nothing
[03:06] <klex> is it any tool like sndconfig or alsaconf to help me find my ISA soundcard?
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> masterloki, im trying to compile from source
[03:07] <cevizoglu> war-totem, are you on the same subnet?  can you hit the internet?  do you have a valid ip?
[03:07] <tga> zeus1_, what does `iwconfig` say for you?
[03:07] <zeus1_> umm hold on I have to boot into linux to try
[03:08] <zeus1_> brb
[03:08] <war-totem> both pc's connect to the router which is connected to the internet, yes we have a valid ip
[03:08] <war-totem> subnet, i dont know what that is
[03:08] <bimberi> war-totem: IIRC the firewall on winxp sp2 disables responding to pings
[03:08] <war-totem> i have no firewall on winxp
[03:08] <LincTeK> hey war-totem download the august issue of tux mag it walks you through what youre trying to do
[03:08] <bimberi> k
[03:08] <spiderworm> war-totem: windows xp only responds to hack requests now
[03:08] <tga> war-totem, can you ping the linux box from the winxp one?
[03:08] <cevizoglu> war-totem, it's called "mask" in your ifconfig setting
[03:09] <teeagooXFCEnroda> help-me!!! my xfce dont works! why? ( gnome works...)
[03:09] <war-totem> were on the same mask
[03:09] <tga> teeagooXFCEnroda, can you be more specific than "dont works"?
[03:09] <brunolima> hey guys
[03:09] <teeagooXFCEnroda> tgs, dont run when i do login
[03:10] <tga> teeagooXFCEnroda, do you get any errors?
[03:10] <brunolima> does anyone here already installed gkrellm ?
[03:10] <teeagooXFCEnroda> tgp, no, but have something in .xsession-error, one minute, i will see
[03:10] <cevizoglu> war-totem, not sure what's wrong then.. I can ping/connect from ubuntu to windows and vice-versa without any special configuration or setup steps
[03:11] <Xorlev> Augh Xorg had such a huge memory leak. It was using 2gb total memory, with 4mb of physical memory left out of 1gb, and 16mb of swap left out of 1.6gb
[03:11] <war-totem> ok
[03:11] <sorush20> brunolima: make sure if you are using gkrellm that you don't have a abit motherboard.. that way you will not be able to check the temperature of the motherboard...
[03:11] <cevizoglu> war-totem, the only thing that comes to mind is windows is blocking ping and your other ports
[03:11] <war-totem> im gonna chek out this tux mag
[03:11] <war-totem> right
[03:11] <tga> war-totem, so can you ping the linux box from the winxp one?
[03:11] <war-totem> one sec ill try
[03:12] <Orby> ummm could someone point me to the howto for ati on ubuntu :)
[03:12] <Madpilot> !ati
[03:12] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:12] <Orby> ty :)
[03:12] <redin> Algum Brasileiro ae?
[03:12] <tga> redin, #ubuntu-br
[03:12] <war-totem> no problems pinging ubuntu from winxp
[03:12] <sorush20> can you install .deb file by clicking
[03:12] <tga> war-totem, then you have a firewall on windows
[03:13] <redin> tga, brasileiro?
[03:13] <tga> redin, nope
[03:13] <war-totem> weird
[03:13] <redin> tga,  tks
[03:13] <redin> xD
[03:13] <war-totem> i thought id disabled it
[03:13] <Seveas> sorush20, not yet
[03:13] <sorush20> Seveas: is it possible in anyother distro
[03:13] <teeagooXFCEnroda> tga, something like "Xconposite..."
[03:13] <Xorlev> Seveas: Couldn't you make a double-click action to open a terminal and run dpkg -i package.deb?
[03:14] <zeus1_> ok who was the guy who asked me to type in "iwconfig"
[03:14] <Seveas> you can install gdeb
[03:14] <teeagooXFCEnroda> Xcomposite
[03:14] <hussam> anybody's successfullt upgraded to bgreezy using dist-upgrade ?
[03:14] <Seveas> no guarantees on the quality though
[03:14] <tga> teeagooXFCEnroda, paste your error at paste.ubuntulinux.nl, then post the link
[03:14] <Seveas> hussam, yes
[03:14] <cevizoglu> zeus1: it's ifconfig and ipconfig
[03:14] <nalioth> hussam: yes lots of us
[03:14] <Seveas> 2 systems now :)
[03:14] <zeus1_> someone told me to type iwconfig
[03:14] <tga> zeus1_, that was me, make sure your wireless setup is ok
[03:15] <cevizoglu> zeus1: oops, nevermind
[03:15] <sorush20> Xorlev: could you tell me how to do that..
[03:15] <zeus1_> and I got "lo     no wireless connections found" and "sit0     no wireless connections found"
[03:15] <zeus1_> tga ^^
[03:15] <teeagooXFCEnroda> tga, i lost the log :( one minute
[03:15] <caonex> anybody with ndiswrapper here?
[03:15] <tga> zeus1_, what about your wireless interface? eth0 or eth1 or whatever it is
[03:15] <zeus1_> umm all I saw was "lo" and "sit0"
[03:15] !lilo:*! A main rotation server temporarily lost connectivity.... we're looking at it. Thanks.
[03:16] <zeus1_> and they both said no wireless connection found
[03:16] <tga> zeus1_, that means your wireless driver is not loaded
[03:16] <zeus1_> :o
[03:16] <tga> zeus1_, what wifi card do you have?
[03:16] <zeus1_> how do u fix
[03:16] <zeus1_> umm
[03:16] <zeus1_> idk
[03:16] <zeus1_> how do u find out
[03:17] <sorush20> guys for a long time I have been unable to load the gnome panel.. what are the components that need to be run to full run the gnome panel...
[03:18] <D1> are most usb scanners today usb2 or 1.1?
[03:18] <Hergiswi> Hey guys, I have a question regarding LILO
[03:18] <Hergiswi> I installed Ubuntu, then reinstalled Windows (different HD) and then Mandrake (Different partition, same HD as Ubuntu)...now LILO only shows Windows and Mandrake, and not Ubuntu. How can I fix this?
[03:18] <brunolima> how can i stick gkrellm on the right ?
[03:19] <IRCMonkey> does anyone know if there's going to be a messenger with webcam support sometime soon for linux?
[03:20] <tga> IRCMonkey, not very likely.. your best bet is gnomemeeting
[03:20] <IRCMonkey> tga: thanks
[03:22] <Hergiswi> anyone know?
[03:22] <Spermite> i need a a iso for debian, not really sure which one to pick im guessing this one debian-31r0a-i386-bi..>
[03:23] <nalioth> Spermite: i think you've joined the wrong channel
[03:23] <Spermite> nalioth cant talk in debian
[03:24] <nalioth> Spermite: we dont usually talk about debian in here
[03:25] <Hergiswi> so nobody knows..
[03:25] <IRCMonkey> im still trying to find a MSN MEssenger equivilant for linux that has webcam support
[03:25] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: you re-run lilo's installer.  i don't know offhand what it's called, I use yaboot, not lilo
[03:25] <nalioth> Hergiswi: may i point out that instead of "so nobody knows" try asking your question again
[03:25] <teeagoo> somebody helpme, xfce dont works: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2135
[03:25] <drapelyk> they need to make Trillian for linux
[03:26] <drapelyk> only a free video version
[03:26] <Hergiswi> to be honest, I prefer GRUB over LILO, but it just decided to install LILO
[03:26] <Hergiswi> and I dunno how to install GRUB
[03:26] <IRCMonkey> they need to make any messenger for linux have webcam
[03:26] <IRCMonkey> support
[03:26] <hondje> sudo apt-get install grub?
[03:26] <Hergiswi> in Mandriva?
[03:27] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: in ubuntu
[03:27] <Hergiswi> I can't access Ubuntu
[03:27] <Hergiswi> that's the point
[03:27] <Epix> error! apt is buggering up after breezy install: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2136
[03:27] <hondje> probably urpmi install grub
[03:27] <IRCMonkey> does DMSN have webcam support ?
[03:27] <Hergiswi> Mandriva isn't recognizing Ubuntu in LILO for some reason
[03:27] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: then you should go to #mandriva, I think
[03:27] <Fiyawerx> i saw someone on the forums post about that
[03:27] <Fiyawerx> i think the answer was amsn
[03:27] <bimberi> Hergiswi: i don't know for sure, but i reckon you'll need to edit the lilo configuration to include ubuntu in its options.  I think the file is lilo.conf
[03:27] <IRCMonkey> amsn doesnt have it and its not all that great
[03:27] <Fiyawerx> ah
[03:28] <IRCMonkey> kopete is pretty good
[03:28] <sorush20> if I upgrade gnome as the root user will it effect the other users.. and will the vice versa be the same
[03:28] <IRCMonkey> but none have the webcam support
[03:28] <IRCMonkey> or VoIP
[03:28] <zorba64> Epix: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:28] <christopher> is someone able to help me with installing my usb wireless card? I'm at a dead end with the forums....
[03:29] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: you can download grub, build it, edit grub's config file, then install it
[03:29] <Hergiswi> on which OS? all 3 of them?
[03:29] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: just on mandriva
[03:29] <Hergiswi> oh, ok
[03:30] <war-totem> what name do i have to use when mounting winxp
[03:30] <war-totem> the comp name or the ip?
[03:30] <zorba64> Hergiswi: edit /etc/lilo.conf to show it...what /dev/hd? is ubuntu on?
[03:30] <bimberi> war-totem: the IP (unless you have a DNS setup or an entry in /etc/hosts for your winxp box)
[03:30] <luckyaba> anyone know a good howto for embadding an irc client into a webpage?
[03:30] <cevizoglu> Hergiswi: it installs to the bootloader.  be sure you really, really know what you're doing or you could lose all your boot settings
[03:31] <war-totem> can i do this from terminal?
[03:31] <nalioth> !tell war-totem about ntfs
[03:31] <smil0n> anyone else having Xserver problems after the recent ubuntu updates?
[03:31] <cevizoglu> luckyaba: I've run an irc client in a web page, it was java based
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> you can run a cgi irc program
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> bizarrely
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> it's called cgi irc
[03:32] <SlicerDicer-> luckyaba, there is some on sourceforge look there
[03:32] <war-totem> ok but, their seperate machines
[03:32] <zorba64> smil0n: in breezy? nope...smooth as
[03:32] <smil0n> anyone know how i can get xserver back up and running?
[03:32] <hussam> nalioth, Seveas: is it true "Initializing modules" fails in breezy?
[03:33] <Epix> zorba64,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2137
[03:33] <zorba64> smil0n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:33] <nalioth> hussam: i run powerpc ubuntu. my problems are not gonna be your problems.
[03:33] <nalioth> hussam: Seveas could tell you, probably
[03:33] <IRCMonkey> hmmm... does anyone know of a plug-in that allows gaim or kopete or amsn to have webcam support
[03:33] <smil0n> zorba64: thanks. i'll try that now.
[03:34] <luckyaba> evizoglu: would you have an example.. im lost..lol
[03:34] <zorba64> Epix: you are missing the main repo...use this one as a ref http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2138
[03:34] <mik3> what's the command to run for reconfiguring xorg?
[03:34] <hussam> Seveas: did you get  "Initializing modules" fails after you upgraded to breezy?
[03:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have two hard drives, hda and hdb. hda is not partitioned, hdb is partitioned into two fat32 partitions, an ext3, and a swap partition. Windows is installed on hda, and Ubuntu is installed on hdb. After I installed Ubuntu on a partition on hdb, Windows sees hdb as one giant raw disk, and Ubuntu sees the partitions fine.
[03:35] <zdennis> mik3, dpkg-reconfigure xorg ?
[03:35] <war-totem> nalioth
[03:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> Why is this happening - what can I do to fix it?
[03:35] <mik3> zdennis : perhaps, i recall using apt-get for somer reason
[03:35] <war-totem> that script says no usable windows or mac
[03:35] <war-totem> partitions
[03:36] <zorba64> mik3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:36] <zdennis> mik3, apt-get doesn't reconfigure packages
[03:36] <cevizoglu> how do I invert the colors on my screen?
[03:37] <Carpe_Libertatem> Anyone?
[03:37] <zorba64> Carpe_Libertatem: windows cannot read ext3 file systems
[03:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> zorba64: Did you read what I posted?
[03:38] <zorba64> yup
[03:38] <IRCMonkey> does anyone know a plug-in site for any of the following , Kopete, Gaim, AMSN
[03:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> zorba: hdb is partitioned into two fat32 partitions, an ext3, and a swap partition.
[03:38] <ick> w00t
[03:38] <ick> ick?
[03:38] <bimberi> war-totem: i think what you're looking for is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba under the heading "Mounting a samba share"
[03:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> zorba: Windows sees ALL OF IT, as one raw disk.
[03:39] <azahid> i am new to MEPIS. Can somebody tell me how I can upgrade from MEPIS 3.3.0 to 3.3.2
[03:39] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem: not sure what you mean since you said you installed windows on an unpartitioned device
[03:39] <JairunCaloth> Never used irc in the shell before
[03:39] <Madpilot> azahid: I think you on the wrong channel...
[03:39] <bimberi> azahid: er, this is not a mepis support channel
[03:39] <nalioth> JairunCaloth: it offers more options in a shell
[03:39] <Madpilot> *you're, even
[03:39] <azahid> sorry
[03:39] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu: I mean, hda contains a single partition.
[03:39] <JairunCaloth> nalioth: when you've never used it before it's rather confusing
[03:39] <nalioth> azahid: 1: d/l the latest mepis, 2: learn about apt-get
[03:39] <JairunCaloth> Only reason I'm in the shell is because x refuses to start
[03:40] <IRCMonkey> good news kopete is working on webcam support
[03:40] <nalioth> JairunCaloth: i have X and use a console irc client
[03:40] <JairunCaloth> normaly I just use xchat
[03:40] <smil0n> zorba64: i got my X up and running again. Thanks for the tip. But why would the update change my previous configuration?
[03:40] <oficina_> hello i have a problem with my mouse wifi ... is a USB
[03:41] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, my guess is your partitioner did not actually create the FAT partitions, OR, windows isn't displaying them unless you tell it to, which I've seen it do iirc
[03:41] <JairunCaloth> So... I installed the updates today, and all of the sudden after turning my comptuer back on after the update, my computer won't start X
[03:41] <nalioth_wrkn> JairunCaloth: tomorrows updates may fix it
[03:41] <budluva> JairunCaloth, check your logs and see why it isnt starting
[03:41] <nalioth_wrkn> JairunCaloth: it WILL be fixed
[03:42] <budluva> oh
[03:42] <JairunCaloth> are other poeple experiancing the same problems?
[03:42] <zorba64> smil0n: was it a hoary-breezy update?
[03:42] <JairunCaloth> I'm pretty helpless in the shell, It took me 15 min to figure out how to connect to this irc server
[03:43] <Versed> Didn't ubuntu install xchat for you?
[03:44] <JairunCaloth> I don't think Xchat will work in the shell
[03:44] <Versed> k
[03:44] <smil0n> zorba64: it was hoary-hedgehog
[03:44] <JairunCaloth> I accutally had to boot into recovery mode or something
[03:44] <budluva> well bitchx is a good shell irc client
[03:44] <zorba64> JairunCaloth: xchat-text - IRC client for console similar to AmIRC
[03:45] <zorba64> smil0n: dont know for sure...unless they did some major changes to X in hoary
[03:45] <JairunCaloth> I don't even know what this client is. I just typed irc and hoped something would run, lucky me I have a shell irc client
[03:46] <budluva> JairunCaloth, apt-get install bitchx
[03:46] <JairunCaloth> this one suits my purposes
[03:46] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: you'll be using irssi then
[03:46] <smil0n> zorba64: well thanks anyway for the info. i feel better now.
[03:46] <zorba64> smil0n: np
[03:47] <JairunCaloth> When I boot normaly It goes allthe way to where it starts X then it freezes. And my keyboard stops responding completly
[03:47] <LinuxNewbie> hello there, how can ubuntu read fat32 and ntfs file system?
[03:47] <kdibble> Would someone be kind enough to tell me which package the manpages for the standard c library are in?
[03:47] <bimberi> !tell LinuxNewbie about ntfs
 I know it can read ntfs
[03:48] <cevizoglu> JairunCaloth: you should try going through the terminals and see if it's displaying any other errors
[03:48] <JairunCaloth> I can't
[03:48] <zorba64> LinuxNewbie: it can read fat32, u need to :sudo modprobe ntfs and then it will read ntfs too
[03:48] <JairunCaloth> I can't switch terminals, everything locks up
[03:49] <LinuxNewbie> huh?
[03:49] <LinuxNewbie> how do you do that?
[03:49] <cevizoglu> JairunCaloth, ctrl-option-F1 does nothing?
[03:49] <JoeLiTo> Hello Ubuntu lovers and soon converts
[03:49] <JairunCaloth> I rebooted into recovery mode, but I still can't switch terminals. Which makes it really hard for me to fix whatever is going on. Nornally I have #ubuntu and the internet to help
[03:49] <kdibble> Would someone be kind enough to tell me which package the manpages for the standard c library are in?
[03:49] <bluefoxicy> can someone help me rip and re-encode a DVD onto another DVD?
[03:50] <JairunCaloth> cevizoglu: nope
[03:50] <JairunCaloth> I can't even get numlock to light up
[03:50] <bluefoxicy> I just bought "The Incredibles" and while watching it it flicks the picture on and off because it's going through my VCR since my TV has no audio/video jacks
[03:50] <zorba64> LinuxNewbie: need more info on where your fat32 and ntfs drives/partitions migh be
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> bluefoxicy: watch it on your PC
[03:51] <cevizoglu> JairunCaloth: are you in breezy, warty or hoary?
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> so I need to -ILLEGALLY COPY- this DVD in a total violation of the DMCA and FUCK UP THE QUALITY to watch it A) on a smaller screen, B) taking up my computer screen so I can't work productively at the same time
[03:51] <Epix_> omg, it crashed.. while i was dist-upgrding
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> ah
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> hang on
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> i'm going to flame the MPAA real quick.
[03:51] <zorba64> Epix_: more info
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> bluefoxicy: solution: get a TV that's not older than my grandmother
[03:51] <Epix_> zorba64: i was using VNC at the time
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> HrdwrBoB:  this requires money.
[03:52] <bluefoxicy> HrdwrBoB:  I work at best buy.  I used to make $500/pay, now I make $100/pay because my hours have been cut to a few hours a week
[03:52] <IRCMonkey> how do i make a launcher for kopete (how do i know which is the kopete path)
[03:52] <bluefoxicy> and they continue to cut my time
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> ooh bugger
[03:52] <bluefoxicy> I still think they want to force me to quit so they don't have to pay my unemployment check.
[03:52] <Hergiswi>  Uh, Grub wants me to give Ubuntu "kernel image", but I don't know what that is. o_O
[03:52] <bluefoxicy> (massive labor law violation)
[03:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> Bah.
[03:52] <cevizoglu> bluefoxicy: you're becoming off-topic really fast here
[03:53] <war-totem> someone told me that their was an article on lans in this issue of tux
[03:53] <war-totem> where is it?
[03:53] <war-totem> im not seeing it
[03:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> Why can't Windows see my FAT partitions on hdb? v_v
[03:53] <Tuxhedoh> can anyone point me to an IRC room that might be helpful with noob bash scripting?
[03:53] <cevizoglu> Tuxhedoh: #bash
[03:54] <reiki> ubotu tell reiki about mplayer
[03:54] <itoysook> hi
[03:54] <Tuxhedoh> Thanks cevizoglu
[03:54] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem: which steps exactly did you take to creating the FAT partitions?
[03:54] <Carpe_Libertatem> Just now I used GTParted to delete the existing FAT partitions, and made a new one.
[03:54] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: have you tried a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[03:54] <itoysook> how can i add web cam.
[03:55] <war-totem> ubotu tell war-totem about mplayer
[03:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, what else do you need to know?
[03:55] <war-totem> haha so cool
[03:55] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem: not familiar with GTParted, sorry
[03:55] <JairunCaloth> how do I scroll up in this client?
[03:55] <itoysook> please help me. how to add a web cam
[03:55] <drapelyk> ubotu tell drapelyk about mplayer
[03:55] <volvoguy> i'm still trying to track down info for my newest Ubuntu convert. is there no DNS server in Ubuntu's main repository?
[03:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, what else can I try?
[03:56] <kdibble> ubotu tell kdibble about c library manpages
[03:56] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, Had a typo, it's GParted.
[03:56] <drgalaxy> how do I boot my hd ro so that I can fsck.ext3 -c (fix bad blocks)?
[03:56] <Hergiswi> I'm gonna go try to boot to Ubuntu; brb
[03:56] <JairunCaloth> bim: going to try that brb
[03:56] <Epix> gawd
[03:57] <bimberi> volvoguy: bind9
[03:57] <odatubuntu> anyone have any experience with enemy territory?
[03:57] <chavo> I only have one getty running when I boot into level 5, is that normal?
[03:57] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem: making FAT is usually a two-step process for me.  I have to partition the drive for FAT, set the type of partition to FAT, and also run another tool to initialize as FAT
[03:57] <chavo> odatubuntu, yes, it rocks
[03:57] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, er, three steps
[03:57] <teeagoo> how disable xcomposite?
[03:57] <odatubuntu> chavo: i have it installed and it runs but i have no sound
[03:57] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, So - how do I do that with the tools you use?
[03:57] <volvoguy> bimberi, thanks! you'd think they'd put "dns server" somewhere in the description. :)
[03:57] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, I can't remember the name of the tool offhand
[03:57] <bimberi> volvoguy: yw :)
[03:57] <chavo> odatubuntu, I think you have to kill esd before running it
[03:58] <Epix> odatubuntu: killall esd
[03:58] <chavo> odatubuntu, I run all of my games as a seperate login though
[03:58] <odatubuntu> chavo: i tried that command but it didn't do anything
[03:58] <chavo> so there's nothing in memory
[03:58] <JairunCaloth> says xserver-org is not installed
[03:58] <Epix> chavo: what games do you run :P?
[03:58] <chavo> mostly enemy territory
[03:58] <cevizoglu> anyone know how to format a partition as FAT?
[03:58] <odatubuntu> epix: do that at the terminal then run et?
[03:58] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: did i typo? it should be xserver-xorg
[03:58] <Epix> odatubuntu: try it!
[03:59] <JairunCaloth> ah, I may have written it down wrong
[03:59] <JairunCaloth> brb
[03:59] <Epix> chavo: yay for et :D
[03:59] <LinuxNewbieX6X> hello im back
[03:59] <chipmunk> is there alternative windows media player in Ubuntu in playing yahoo videos?help
[03:59] <LinuxNewbieX6X> whats the tools that you suggested that i use?
[03:59] <cevizoglu> LinuxNewbie, who are you talking to?
[03:59] <LinuxNewbieX6X> read NTFS and FAT32?
[03:59] <Epix> chipmunk: Totem
[03:59] <volvoguy> next one. iptables is the best (only?) replacement for ipchains?
[03:59] <chavo> half life 2, jedi knight series, mohaa and sof2 are my favorites
[03:59] <wasiwatu> hi there, what's the best way to find help for ubuntu here?
[04:00] <odatubuntu> epix: nope i am assuming you should have sound as soon as it starts and i didn't
[04:00] <chipmunk> can it play the video music in yahoo?
[04:00] <Epix> wasiwatu: ask a question!
[04:00] <chavo> I have america's army also, but haven't tried it yet
[04:00] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: iptables is the only thing you can use
[04:00] <rob_p> volvoguy:  ipchains was the predicessor (sp) to iptables.
[04:00] <Epix> chipmunk: dunno. try going to the yahoo site and seeing if it works
[04:00] <Epix> chavo: for nix?
[04:00] <cevizoglu> LinuxNewbieX6X, mount
[04:01] <chipmunk> i did but it doesnt, there was an error. i dont know wat it means..any alternative?
[04:01] <chavo> with cedega yes
[04:01] <wasiwatu> ok, I need help installing my usb wireless card using atmel drivers - i'm getting nowhere with the forums can anyone help?
[04:01] <odatubuntu> this is my error /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[04:01] <odatubuntu> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[04:01] <odatubuntu> -------------------------
[04:01] <LinuxNewbie> bimberi wants you to know: rumour has it, ntfs is the  ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[04:01] <Epix> chipmunk: whats the error?
[04:01] <chipmunk> i forgot... let me see...wait
[04:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> !windowsdrives
[04:01] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[04:01] <volvoguy> HrdwrBoB, rob_p, thanks. the latest distro that my former linux guru uses is slackware 9.0. (yes, he's going to like Ubuntu).
[04:02] <bimberi> LinuxNewbie: yes, that's what ubotu would have sent you
[04:02] <rob_p> volvoguy:  I like it quite a bit!
[04:02] <LinuxNewbieX6X> ive open it what should i do with it?
[04:02] <chipmunk> it stil entering...how about mplayer?
[04:02] <LinuxNewbieX6X> im kinda new in in linux
[04:02] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, I normally use fdisk and then mkfs.vfat iirc
[04:03] <Epix> chavo: whats cedega?
[04:03] <Luder> Hey, I'm having trouble with Cedega
[04:03] <cevizoglu> !tell Epix about cedega
[04:03] <odatubuntu> anyone have any tips?
[04:03] <Luder> Can anyone helpe me?
[04:03] <Epix> ive been told!
[04:03] <chavo> Epix, it's a fork of wine basically let's you run Windows apps
[04:03] <LinuxNewbieX6X> could you help me with fstab?
[04:03] <chipmunk> o use this application with Netscape, you must use a 4.7x or 7.1 version. Download now.
[04:03] <chipmunk> Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 12) <== this is the error
[04:04] <bimberi> LinuxNewbie: you need to save the file on your computer and run it.  If you open the file in an editor it has instructions
[04:04] <Epix> chavo: free?
[04:04] <dhyne> how could it be??????
[04:04] <chavo> Epix, wine is free, cedega is not
[04:04] <dhyne> i dont know how to use it... i need help from anyone
[04:04] <Epix> *cries*
[04:04] <chavo> cedega allows you to play more recent games though
[04:05] <Luder> chavo, i do believe I'm installing a free version of it right now
[04:05] <chavo> it's very inexpensive though
[04:05] <Luder> if i wasnt having problems... lol
[04:05] <Luder> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:05] <LinuxNewbieX6X> how do install http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:05] <LinuxNewbieX6X> pls help?
[04:05] <chavo> you can get it for free from their cvs, but it doesn't have all of the code there, esp. dx stuff
[04:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, how do I use fdisk to partition?
[04:06] <Luder> chavo, i see... well, its not working for me anyways
[04:06] <bimberi> LinuxNewbieX6X: you need to save the file on your computer and run it.  If you open the file in an editor it has instructions
[04:06] <volvoguy> ok. last one i think. this new server being built with ubuntu has to play nicely with the existing (old slackware) servers running FreeSWan. it looks like Openswan picked up where FreeSWan left off. is this correct, or is there another/better option?
[04:06] <[CSI] Octane-work> hey everyone whatever you do, don't fucking upgrade to preview! LOL :D
[04:06] <Octane> i just completely screwed up my setup
[04:06] <bimberi> Octane: lol
[04:06] <Octane> hi bimberi
[04:06] <bimberi> hi
[04:06] <Octane> you were right
[04:06] <chavo> Octane, I'm running it now
[04:06] <bimberi> no i wasn't
[04:06] <Octane> god im such an asshole
[04:07] <volvoguy> Octane, preview is rockin' on my iBook. :)
[04:07] <bimberi> i was kidding and had no idea (i think you know that) :)
[04:07] <Octane> linux-sources for 2.6.12-8 arent even up
[04:07] <Xorlev> Bah @ IPv6 setup >_<
[04:07] <maze> 5.10 preview reseted my BIOS
[04:07] <Octane> my nvidia drivers wont even start now
[04:07] <az[a] zel> is there a way to edit the fonts QT apps use without installing KDE?
[04:07] <chavo> 5.10 preview mowed my lawn
[04:07] <maze> lol
[04:07] <Xorlev> chavo: Yours too?
[04:07] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, I thought you said it was already partitioned, I think what you need is mkfs.vfat to initialize it as fat
[04:07] <odatubuntu> anyone able to help me with enemy territory
[04:08] <intelikey> LinuxNewbieX6X  it's a bash script.....
[04:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> cevizoglu, I deleted the partition. :-P
[04:08] <chavo> az[a] zel, qt apps yes, kde apps no. You need kde-libs and base for that.
[04:08] <bimberi> az[a] zel: install kcontrol
[04:08] <Epix> woot, cedega for freeega
[04:08] <intelikey> you execute it.   LinuxNewbieX6X
[04:08] <maze> odatubuntu: your getting sound in ET?
[04:08] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem, if you're not sure how to use fdisk, I would read the man pages and maybe a wiki on it
[04:08] <Xorlev> My breezy install took over my cat and installed itsself on it.
[04:08] <odatubuntu> maze: nope
[04:08] <cevizoglu> cya guys, gotta go home
[04:08] <maze> my dog rebooted
[04:09] <volvoguy> my breezy eats babies.
[04:09] <az[a] zel> bimberi, won't kcontrol pull in half of KDE?
[04:09] <maze> odatubuntu: I installed but I get no sound
[04:09] <Xorlev> Good thing is now I can use /etc/init.d/catd stop when the cat is being annoying now.
[04:09] <odatubuntu> my breezy swallows
[04:09] <bimberi> Octane: I'm disappointed to hear it didn't work for you tho :/
[04:09] <az[a] zel> chavo, yeah, it's for lyx-qt specifically, the menu fonts are huge
[04:09] <volvoguy> *obligatory family guy reference*
[04:09] <LinuxNewbieX6X> tnx alot men
[04:09] <az[a] zel> chavo, so how do I do it? :)
[04:09] <chavo> az[a] zel, try running qtconfig
[04:09] <bimberi> az[a] zel: not sure, probably, i just know it's recommended way to make skype look half decent
[04:10] <maze> odatubuntu: you can try this .. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Make_sound_work_with_ALSA_and_Quake3/Enemy-Territory
[04:10] <bimberi> az[a] zel: ... in gnome that is
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> http://rafb.net/paste/results/uslzJv60.html  Sent to the MPAA's "report piracy hotline"
[04:11] <drapelyk> where is the file to allow universe at?
[04:11] <drapelyk> I have forgotten
[04:11] <mike23> greetings
[04:11] <spstarr> uhm why do we have silly dependencies for kubuntu-desktop in -devel
[04:11] <spstarr> mdadm is needed for what reason? RAID is a desktop thing these days?
[04:11] <klex> devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for sound/audio <- what do this mean? it happens after I tried to modprobe snd-azt2320
[04:11] <az[a] zel> ah. that's better :) lyx doesn't look so bad now :)
[04:11] <intelikey> drapelyk "apt-setup"
[04:12] <chavo> az[a] zel, qtconfig worked?
[04:12] <az[a] zel> chavo, yep
[04:12] <chavo> cool
[04:12] <drapelyk> intelikey thanks
[04:12] <az[a] zel> didn't even have to restart lyx. it "just worked"
[04:12] <drapelyk> intelikey what is the directory?
[04:12] <az[a] zel> ... i wouldn't mind a better qt theme though.. something to blend in with clearlooks :)
[04:13] <Zodiac> Hello all
[04:13] <chavo> az[a] zel, there are some kde themes that are close
[04:13] <Zodiac> What p2p programs are you guys using?
[04:13] <drapelyk> What is the PWD for apt-setup?
[04:14] <intelikey> no drapelyk if you just run "apt-setup " it will let you edit the file.      the actual conf file is in /etc/apt/ i think
[04:14] <drapelyk> intelikey alright thanks
[04:14] <Zodiac> amule?
[04:15] <maze> bittorrent
[04:15] <Zodiac> What bittorrent client?
[04:15] <volvoguy> Zodiac, azureus works great for me.
[04:15] <Zodiac> CRAP
[04:16] <Zodiac> I thought you would say that
[04:16] <Zodiac> Mine wouldnt update properly
[04:16] <maze> official bittorrent
[04:16] <Zodiac> ?
[04:16] <bur[n] er> Zodiac: you don't need the latest azureus
[04:16] <bur[n] er> Zodiac: you can just use 2.3.0.0
[04:16] <masterloki> A got a mistake trying to lauch xmms
[04:16] <bur[n] er> or whatever is in there
[04:16] <masterloki> in breezy
[04:17] <bur[n] er> masterloki: quick answer is... get bmp ;)
[04:17] <masterloki> ok
[04:17] <volvoguy> Zodiac, update as in.... upgrade itself? i use the version right from sourceforge and it hasn't failed me yet.
[04:17] <drapelyk> can I not install mplayer in ubuntu?
[04:17] <Zodiac> all right I will try er again
[04:17] <Zodiac> How did you install it from sourceforge?
[04:18] <volvoguy> Zodiac, i don't remember. lemme go look. :)
[04:18] <Zodiac> :)
[04:18] <bonee> how do i revert to a previous verison of a app
[04:18] <drapelyk> Why doesn't mplayer show up in the synaptic Package Mangager?
[04:18] <bur[n] er> !azureus
[04:18] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[04:18] <tritium> yes, you can drapelyk
[04:18] <bur[n] er> Zodiac: you don't need to do it from sf... it's in hoary-extras :)
[04:18] <Madpilot> drapelyk: do you have the Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?
[04:19] <drapelyk> probably not, I ran apt-setup and it asked for my Ubuntu CD
[04:19] <drapelyk> should I go ahead and do it?\
[04:19] <odatubuntu> anyone know what i need to do with enemy territory?
[04:19] <Madpilot> !tell drapelyk about repos
[04:19] <volvoguy> Zodiac, i think i just did this - http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php
[04:19] <charles_> how do i determine which package a file belongs to?
[04:20] <christopher_> can someone help me install amtel drivers for a usb wireless device?
[04:20] <volvoguy> Zodiac, there's also a Gnome Bittorrent client (or is that just in Breezy?)
[04:20] <charles_> sorry , that's a 'man dpkg' question
[04:20] <tritium> odatubuntu, I believe it's a game.  Try playing it ;)
[04:20] <Madpilot> volvoguy: no, GnomeTorrent is in Hoary too
[04:20] <odatubuntu> tritium: kind of sucks without sound
[04:21] <volvoguy> Madpilot, i thought so. i think i only used it once. :)
[04:21] <bob2> christopher_: is it too late to return it?
[04:21] <tritium> odatubuntu, I'll bet
[04:21] <Madpilot> volvoguy: all the torrents I try don't seem to work...
[04:22] <Madpilot> odatubuntu: try "killall esd" in a command line before you start ET
[04:22] <volvoguy> Madpilot, probably obvious, but you have the right ports open in your firewall right?
[04:22] <odatubuntu> madpilot: i tried that i still don't have sound
[04:23] <Madpilot> volvoguy: I'm not sure, I run Firestarter but haven't done any tweaking of it...
[04:24] <Madpilot> odatubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[04:24] <odatubuntu> madpilot: this is my error /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[04:24] <odatubuntu> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[04:24] <drapelyk> I can't find mplayer on any of the repositories
[04:24] <bob2> ha ha
[04:24] <bob2> drapelyk: yes you can, it's in multiverse
[04:25] <drapelyk> k
[04:25] <Madpilot> odatubuntu: no idea, but "killall esd" works for most games for me
[04:26] <bonee> where is the font folder
[04:26] <Madpilot> !fonts
[04:26] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:26] <Noodle> what kernel is ubuntu 5.04 using
[04:26] <Madpilot> bonee: ^^^
[04:26] <bob2> 2.6.10, the same as it has been using all year
[04:27] <Noodle> thanks bob
[04:27] <bonee> yea mad
[04:27] <odatubuntu> when i go to the multimedia selector esd is my default sink output format
[04:27] <fake> asdf
[04:27] <Madpilot> bonee: I meant "look above and see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto - which I asked ubotu to show"
[04:28] <bonee> ohh ok
[04:28] <bonee> thankz
[04:28] <SlicerDicer> hey does anybody here use marvell chipset?
[04:28] <bob2> lots of people have
[04:28] <bob2> it seems to be fairly buggy
[04:28] <bonee> Madpilot: what is a good x manger
[04:28] <SlicerDicer> bob2: do you know what the module is cause the traditional sk98lin does not seem to be it
[04:29] <Madpilot> bonee: not sure what you mean by that...
[04:29] <bob2> skge or something
[04:29] <SlicerDicer> bob2: it will fizzle out on bootup then finally activate itself as it just did haha
[04:29] <SlicerDicer> bob2: its very weird
[04:29] <bob2> seems kinda broken in the mainline kernel
[04:29] <bonee> like kde, gnome, fluxbox, blackbox
[04:29] <bonee> what is a good one for the best gui
[04:29] <volvoguy> Madpilot, that would make all the difference in the world. make sure port 6881 is open and you'll be fine.
[04:29] <Madpilot> bonee: what's wrong with Gnome?
[04:29] <bonee> have stuff run on the wallpaper and stuff
[04:29] <bonee>  i wanna do some crazy stuff
[04:30] <bob2> bonee: there is no "best", they're all different
[04:30] <Madpilot> volvoguy: port 6881 - thanks - off to kick Firestarter to life...
[04:30] <bob2> you'll never know which one you prefer unless you try it
[04:30] <maze> How do you switch between Quake3/ET and the desktop ??
[04:30] <Octane> i need help quite frantically. which kernel source should i download for latest preview release?
[04:30] <bob2> Octane: why?
[04:30] <Octane> bob2: beacuse i need to compile my ethernet card module
[04:30] <bob2> Octane: then say that
[04:31] <bob2> you don't need kernel source for that
[04:31] <bob2> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:31] <Octane> i tried with headers
[04:31] <Octane> i ln -s /usr/src/linux
[04:31] <Octane> to the headers i need
[04:31] <bob2> what driver is this?
[04:31] <Hergiswi> I need some more help...Ubuntu just randomly stopped reading my eth0 card, now I can't connect to the internet
[04:32] <Octane> bob2: sk98lin, syskonnect gigabit ethernet cards
[04:32] <budluva> Hergiswi, lspci see if it lists your ethernet card
[04:32] <bob2> Octane: er, I'm pretty sure that comes with ubuntu kernels
[04:32] <bob2> Hergiswi: what chipset is it?
[04:32] <bob2> budluva: that won't help
[04:32] <Hergiswi> I have no idea
[04:32] <Octane> bob2: it didnt in hoary 2.6.10
[04:32] <bob2> Octane: yes, it does
[04:32] <budluva> bob2, well if its not listed the module isnt loaded
[04:32] <bob2> Octane: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin/sk98lin.ko
[04:33] <bob2> budluva: no, lspci output has nothing to do with whether the module is loaded or not
[04:33] <Octane> bob2: should i then just modprobe it?
[04:33] <bob2> worth a try
[04:33] <intelikey> lsmod
[04:33] <Octane> bob2: i have it in /etc/modules
[04:33] <bob2> they're a pretty shit chipset, tho, so it might just not work at all
[04:33] <Octane> and i tonly works when i load 2.6.10 but not 2.6.12 (preview)
[04:34] <bob2> then file a bug already
[04:34] <Octane> i cant even get into kde
[04:34] <bob2> then file a bug
[04:34] <Octane> since my nvidia fails too
[04:34] <bob2> that sounds more like your fault
[04:34] <bob2> you're runing the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?
[04:34] <carlson> hi all... when we put a hard disk with a installed windows xp, for example on another pc with a diferent configuration it doesnt work and we get a bsod.... does it occurs if we do the same with linux/ubuntu?
[04:34] <Octane> x.org.log says: "failed to intiailze nvidia kernel module"
[04:35] <Octane> no, just upgraded what i had
[04:35] <Madpilot> bonee: for 'crazy stuff' in Gnome, look up gdesklets (or adesklets, I'm not sure what the difference is) I've seen some crazy setups with those...
[04:35] <bob2> Octane: you got the driver yourself from nvidia.com?
[04:35] <Octane> bob2: no, always had it from a package
[04:35] <bob2> oh well
[04:35] <Octane> when i boot, i see the NVIDIA logo for a split second and get dropped to shell
[04:35] <bob2> is it an old nvidia card?
[04:35] <Octane> terminal*
[04:35] <Octane> no, very new geforce
[04:35] <bob2> oh well, file a bug
[04:35] <vanberge> Octane, 6200 ?
[04:35] <Octane> again, worked in hoary
[04:35] <bob2> yes
[04:35] <bob2> which means something changed
[04:35] <bob2> ergo file a bug
[04:36] <bob2> and do it now, release is in 3 weeks
[04:36] <vanberge> i have a 6200... and i did exactly what was on ubuntuguide.org
[04:36] <maze> odatubuntu: check this out .. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=289541
[04:36] <vanberge> but im on hoary
[04:36] <bob2> ignore ubuntuguide.org
[04:36] <Octane> vanberge: what version
[04:36] <vanberge> 7667 i think
[04:36] <vanberge> Octane, driver version that is
[04:36] <Octane> bob2: im trying to get into kde first
[04:37] <Octane> bob2: which linux soruce should i get from kernel.org, doyo uknow?
[04:37] <Octane> i got 2.6.12.6
[04:37] <intelikey> lol carlson any system with drivers loading specifically for one set of hardware, when placed in another box will give errors.   linux will probably load ok but unless the vidio card and monitor are closely matched you may not have a gui when the new box boots.   same is true for sound.
[04:38] <bob2> er
[04:38] <bob2> I don't think compiling is the best solution at this point
[04:38] <bob2> I'd really really file a bug right now
[04:38] <Octane> bob2: im not compiling it
[04:39] <Octane> im just using the module's installer
[04:39] <bob2> dude
[04:39] <Octane> which needs the source code and headers
[04:39] <bob2> how could that *possibly* work?
[04:39] <Octane> it takes two seconds, just makes mrproper
[04:39] <bob2> no
[04:39] <Octane> they have an autoinstaller
[04:39] <bob2> that will not work
[04:39] <bob2> at all
[04:39] <bob2> no
[04:39] <chavo> Octane, apt-get install linux-headers
[04:39] <Octane> it has worked for every kernel that i have
[04:39] <bob2> install the correct headers like I told you to before
[04:39] <bob2> then you compiled messed up kernels without modversion magic
[04:40] <vanberge> bob2, i think he is right... ihad to get source
[04:40] <Octane> dude, i need source for my module trust me
[04:40] <vanberge> the installer prompts you
[04:40] <bob2> wtf
[04:40] <bob2> I'm sorry, you cannot compile a driver for your 2.6.10 kernel against 2.6.12.6
[04:40] <bob2> it does not work like that
[04:41] <chavo> all you need is the headers
[04:41] <Octane> im reading the README and it says required: "linux source codes
[04:42] <reiki> ouch... install mplayer plugin for mozilla and now firefox crashes :)
[04:43] <vanberge> Octane, i dont remember how i got it... but in my /usr/src/ directory, there is 2.6.10.tar.bz2
[04:43] <Octane> right thats cuz you used a pkg
[04:43] <maze> odatubuntu: I got it working now ... had to change in the profile /dev/dsp for /dev/adsp and run the game as root
[04:43] <vanberge> Octane, are you just having problems finding the src for your kernel?
[04:44] <Octane> well for starters
[04:44] <Octane> that and nvidia drivers are the two biggest problems
[04:44] <maze> anyone knows how to switch from a game like quake/ET to the gnome desktop ?
[04:44] <chavo> Octane, I compiled the nvidia driver with only linux-headers
[04:44] <vanberge> maze, maybe run it in windowed mode?
[04:44] <packman_e> hello people
[04:44] <vanberge> maze, or: ctrl alt f7
[04:44] <Octane> chavo im trying to compile my NIC module
[04:45] <Octane> not nvidia
[04:45] <intelikey> maze [alt] +[tab]   doesn't work ?
[04:45] <adamhill> bob2: so to compile modules should you use -headers or -source packages?
[04:45] <chavo> oh sorry
[04:45] <maze> intelikey: no
[04:45] <adamhill> octane: sk98lin?
[04:45] <bob2> headers
[04:45] <maze> vanberge: ill, try ...thx
[04:45] <bob2> very very few modules require source, and they are basically buggy
[04:45] <chavo> maze, you can run it on a different vty, then switch back and forth
[04:45] <vanberge> maze, try alt tab too
[04:45] <bob2> but you need the EXACT headers your kernel had
[04:45] <Octane> adamhill: yes
[04:46] <adamhill> ha!
[04:46] <Octane> adamhill: !!!
[04:46] <Octane> what!
[04:46] <bob2> so if you want to use source, you need the same kernel config (from /boot) and the identical kernel source version
[04:46] <Octane> bob2:  you need the source for this im telling you dooooooood
[04:46] <adamhill> I am looking to compile sk98lin as well
[04:46] <bob2> dudes
[04:46] <bob2> sk98lin comes with ubuntu
[04:46] <bob2> if it does not work, file a bug NOW
[04:46] <Octane> adamhill: its really easy actually but you nee dsrc
[04:46] <Octane> bob2: !!!!!! it doesnt :(
[04:46] <maze> chavo: whats the hot key to switch between vtys ?
[04:46] <vanberge> i saw somebody mention quake 2... does that run under ubuntu?  i heard it got open sourced
[04:46] <Octane> it should work if i just add 'sk98lin' in modules
[04:47] <adamhill> bob2: it should show up in lsmod?
[04:47] <bob2> Octane: what does "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | grep sk98" print?
[04:47] <bob2> adamhill: not unless it is loaded
[04:47] <bob2> Octane: if you ever had to put it in /etc/modules to begin with, something is broken
[04:47] <bob2> hotplug should load it
[04:47] <bob2> vanberge: it's *in* ubuntu
[04:47] <Octane> BOB
[04:47] <vanberge> bob2, im apting it now :-)
[04:48] <Octane> ITS ONLY in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5...
[04:48] <adamhill> bob2: I am running Breezy and that line returns nothing
[04:48] <Octane> bob2: i put it in modules because i compiled it myself :)
[04:48] <Octane> adamhill: yup, me too
[04:48] <adamhill> it *was* in Hoary, but broken
[04:48] <Octane> sk98lin does not come compiled with breezy
[04:48] <Octane> yes !!!!! youre right adamhill
[04:49] <bob2> wtf
[04:49] <adamhill> so where do we file the bug bob2?
[04:49] <vanberge> apparently i need more than quake2...
[04:49] <bob2> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <communico> hi, I'm using the sil 3114 raid controller. I'm trying to figure out whether I should be setting this up as a software raid or a hardware raid. what is the difference?
[04:49] <adamhill> i was about to ask on -laptop :)
[04:49] <bob2> vanberge: yes, you need some data files
[04:49] <vanberge> bob2, are those O.S. or do i need a cdrom?
[04:49] <bob2> communico: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[04:50] <bob2> vanberge: you can download the shareware files for free, you have to pay for the commercial version
[04:50] <Octane> bob2: which source should i get then to match the linux-headers-2.6.12-8
[04:50] <bob2> guess
[04:50] <bob2> hint: linux-source-2.6.12
[04:50] <Octane> 2.6.12.8 is not even out, latest is 2.6.12.6
[04:51] <bob2> dude
[04:51] <bob2> - is not .
[04:51] <bob2> important difference
[04:51] <Octane> doh!
[04:51] <adamhill> what does the -8 mean?
[04:51] <madicode> heyas
[04:51] <paulproteus|lapt> adamhill: Debian revision.
[04:51] <paulproteus|lapt> adamhill: Also, hi. :)
[04:51] <paulproteus|lapt> s/Debian/Ubuntu/
[04:51] <adamhill> hey paul
[04:52] <paulproteus|lapt> It's the distributor's revision of the 2.6.12 kernel.
[04:52] <adamhill> are you back in the pancake making business?
[04:52] <vanberge> bob2, quake2-data   :-)
[04:52] <paulproteus|lapt> adamhill: I'm afraid not.  I'm doing more cooking for myself now, though.
[04:52] <madicode> anyone having trouble with the screensaver sice the updates of breezy last night?  The screensaver prefs don't load, and if you run the screensaver it shuts down gnome and reruns gdm?
[04:52] <paulproteus|lapt> adamhill: No longer in dorms (no on-campus housing here at JHU for juniors or seniors).
[04:53] <adamhill> ah
[04:53] <communico> bob2: thanks, that was helpful
[04:53] <adamhill> thanks bob2
[04:54] <Octane> bob2 is the man
[04:54] <intelikey> 
[04:54] <vanberge> apparently i am missing something... the package "quake2-data" just installed a doc saying "install by cd or downloading shareware files"
[04:55] <war-totem> whoever was helping me with my network problem: on a whim i checked networks, and theres my winxp pc
[04:55] <war-totem> god i love ubuntu
[04:56] <Octane> has anyone else's nvidia drivers failed after a breezy install?
[04:56] <bob2> communico: are you being sarcastic? my point was that it's only software raid, so you might as well use the linux stuff.
[04:57] <madicode> i put breezy on fresh, and using the official nvidia drivers fine..
[04:57] <madicode> had to fiddle a little to get it to work but.
[04:57] <derreck> I couldn't get dual monitors going.
[04:58] <klex> i have a hp vectra computer with an azt1008 isapnp souncard. After mdprobe snd-azt2320, dmesg gives me this message, devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for sound/audio, what do it mean?
[04:58] <vanberge> would anybody be able to shed some light on how to install quake 2 data files?  i seem to be at a stuck point
[04:58] <derreck> But the driver itself installed and ran fine.
[04:58] <Octane> madicode: interesting, thanks
[04:58] <jhenn> i saved some stuff to my desktop (gnome) and its not showing up there anyone know why?
[04:58] <adamhill> yeah, breezy + nvidia worked for be OOTB but it wont come back from a suspend or apci turning off the screen (no clue who's problem it is)
[04:58] <adamhill> *for me
[04:59] <bob2> vanberge: go download them
[04:59] <maze> About switching from games to the desktop .. this utility did the job!!!     gdmflexiserver
[04:59] <bob2> vanberge: or google for "linux quake2 howto" ad bear in mind you already have the software
[04:59] <intelikey> jhenn refresh the desktop ?
[04:59] <jhenn> intelikey: how?
[05:00] <Octane> madicode: did you install breezy and the nvidia drivers didnt work?
[05:00] <bz0b> bob2, you here?
[05:00] <intelikey> right click on it and use the menu maybe ?    jhenn i don't use gnome.
[05:00] <Octane> bob's evil twin?
[05:00] <jhenn> how do u refresh gnome desktop?
[05:00] <bz0b> well, can someone tell me how to install my netgear wg511t
[05:01] <bob2> "refresh"?
[05:01] <jhenn> bob2: i saved stuff to it but its not showing up there
[05:01] <bz0b> hey bob2 do you still know where that atheros guide on ubuntu forums is? the one for install madwifi
[05:01] <madicode> yeah at first.  I then had to install gcc3.4, so I could compile the kernel module to match the kernel (i had gcc4 but kernel was compiled in 3.4)..  Then remove all default nvidia stuff, delete the /etc/rc.?/??.nvidia-glx file, and she worked.
[05:01] <a-l-p-h-a> anyone know how to create a taskbar for each seperate monitor?  Currently all my open apps are on one bar.
[05:01] <madicode> but they are working fine now.
[05:02] <bob2> bz0b: ubuntu ships with madwifi
[05:02] <bz0b> yeah, but i need to update
[05:02] <bz0b> i am still on 5.04
[05:02] <vanberge> bob2, thanks for info... too complicated for me to do tonight... :-/
[05:03] <madicode> everything was working fine, until I did the last lot of breezy updates.  screensaver stuffs it up now.
[05:04] <Octane> bob we're about to see if you were right :)
[05:05] <skpl>  what is wifi
[05:05] <jhenn>  /join #gnome
[05:05] <danl> is there anyway to setup ubuntu or linux in general to be able to access a remote linux machine as if it were a local file system other than nfs?
[05:05] <spstarr> wifi is wireless/wireless devices
[05:06] <bob2> sure, linux does lots of network filesystems
[05:06] <bob2> why not nfs, tho?
[05:06] <adamhill> bob2: what package are modules considered to be in -- linux-image-xxx?
[05:06] <danl> i don't think the server i am connecting to supports it... when i run mount with nfs it just times out forever
[05:07] <bob2> ones that come with the kernel, yes
[05:07] <bob2> danl: you will need root access on the other end if you want to mount filesystems off it
[05:07] <danl> hmm
[05:07] <danl> i see
[05:07] <war-totem> wheres the firewall options in ubuntu?
[05:07] <danl> guess i will just stick with ssh
[05:07] <bob2> there aren't any
[05:07] <bob2> war-totem: what are you trying to do?
[05:07] <adamhill> Octane: i got a **Compiler Error after the MODPROBE step in the install.log, let me know if you get it compiled :)
[05:07] <war-totem> allow azureus to poke through
[05:08] <bob2> war-totem: there isn't a firewall at all by default
[05:08] <war-totem> weird
[05:08] <war-totem> all the ports im testing with azureus are giving NAT error
[05:08] <bob2> perhaps you're behind something else that does NAT?
[05:08] <danl> bob2: thanks for the quick response
[05:08] <war-totem> possible
[05:08] <war-totem> thanks bob2
[05:09] <intelikey> if you want a fire wall you have to load iptables and setup rules or use shorewall or the like.
[05:09] <bob2> danl: there's no reason someone couldn't do a terrible hack that doesn't require root, but I don't know of one
[05:09] <communico> bob2: no sarcasm, it was really helpful ... I'm making a lot of progress now that I have a clearer picture *thumbs up*
[05:09] <war-totem> i dont want a firewall though, just thought their was one automatically
[05:10] <Argetlam> Question Where Do I switch the mouse type from a usb to a ps2 and is it possible to assign different mouse buttons to new functions
[05:10] <bob2> war-totem: there is not
[05:10] <bob2> war-totem: if you're behind a dsl or cable modem, tho, you probably have been nat'd
[05:10] <danl> bob2: well im not gonna mess with it, it's my schools cs departmental server, all cs majors have user accounts i just wanted easier access
[05:10] <bob2> Argetlam: it should be enough to plug in a ps2 mouse
[05:10] <bob2> danl: heh
[05:10] <bur[n] er> !tell kermitjr about java
[05:10] <bob2> danl: if they have sftp access, you can use nautilus to browse it
[05:11] <odatubuntu> anyone have any succcess with getting sound to work with enemy territory?
[05:11] <jhenn> i just tried to open a jpg in vlc and then my screen turned yellow
[05:11] <bob2> danl: hm, and I think sshfs might let you mount things, too
[05:11] <war-totem> why would you do that jhenn?
[05:11] <jhenn> war-totem: just to try it
[05:11] <Argetlam> bob2 thats what I thought but it doesn't respond coorrectly
[05:11] <danl> bob2: thank i'll play with those ideas, if i don't get banned already... was playing with sudo earlier :-
[05:11] <war-totem> oh
[05:11] <danl> :-D
[05:11] <Argetlam> ie moving the mouse does do anything but a left click moves the cursor
[05:11] <war-totem> anyone read comics here?
[05:11] <bob2> Argetlam: perhaps it uses a different protocol; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[05:11] <ksmurf> Have I said today how great linux (Ubuntu) is.  Thanks to all.
[05:12] <Plazma> war-totem, i make my own comics actually - :D
[05:12] <Argetlam> thx
[05:12] <jhenn> war-totem: guess ill just restart x
[05:12] <war-totem> NO WAY?
[05:12] <war-totem> NICE
[05:12] <SuperQ> ksmurf: :)
[05:12] <war-totem> sounds good jhenn
[05:12] <Plazma> war-totem, oh yea nothing that cool or famous, i mean its just a hobby  i do
[05:12] <war-totem> how do you view them Plazma?
[05:12] <Plazma> mines a web comic so, its just an image on photobucket
[05:12] <war-totem> ah
[05:12] <war-totem> link?
[05:12] <Plazma> well ill /msg you the link
[05:12] <war-totem> kk
[05:13] <ksmurf> sorry Q I've been drinking coffee again
[05:13] <Plazma> did you get that war totem?
[05:14] <Plazma> there
[05:14] <Argetlam> I get xserver-org is not installed and no info is avaiable
[05:14] <SuperQ> ksmurf: haha
[05:14] <war-totem> just got it now tz
[05:14] <Plazma> war-totem, tell me what you think
[05:14] <SuperQ> ksmurf: yea... I had some caffine insanity this afternoon
[05:14] <Argetlam> bob2 I tried installing it with apt to say it couldn't find the package
[05:14] <war-totem> will do
[05:14] <SuperQ> ksmurf: cluster here was freaking out, and the buzz wasn't helping
[05:14] <odatubuntu> anyone have any succcess with getting sound to work with enemy territory?
[05:14] <ksmurf> Q :<
[05:14] <bob2> Argetlam: you're using warty? or breezy?
[05:15] <ksmurf> Q why?
[05:15] <crimsun> odatubuntu: stop esd before playing ET
[05:15] <SuperQ> ksmurf: it's all good, nothing I can't fix
[05:15] <Argetlam> 5.04
[05:15] <Argetlam> hoary I think
[05:15] <bob2> Argetlam: really?
[05:15] <bimberi> Argetlam: xserver-xorg (there was a typo)
[05:15] <Argetlam> ah
[05:15] <SuperQ> ksmurf: heh.. a co-worker and I were going cornholio waiting for this thing to re-balance
[05:15] <bob2> Argetlam: oh, my apologies
[05:15] <Plazma> im already starting to like ubuntu, installs alot of packages right of the bat, perfect for my desktop uses
[05:15] <bob2> typing at an odd angle here
[05:15] <Argetlam> np
[05:16] <odatubuntu> crimsun: i've tried that a bunch of times but get nothing i'm sure that ET has sound as soon as you start it but i don't
[05:16] <ksmurf> Q ouch!  Thank god I'm not in tech.  This thing is a hobby for me
[05:16] <crimsun> odatubuntu: does an OSS app like mp3blaster work?
[05:17] <ksmurf> I finally have my wacom working perfectly with pressure and buttons
[05:17] <Plazma> war-totem, what do you think?
[05:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> what's a good text-to-speech program for linux?
[05:17] <SuperQ> ksmurf: yea, it's fun tho
[05:17] <odatubuntu> crimsun: yea i just tried an mp3
[05:17] <SuperQ> hrm.. I should go home
[05:17] <SuperQ> enough working for the day
[05:18] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: i've heard of festival but never used it
[05:18] <ksmurf> Q...... I'll say.  Because it's a Hobby I love it.  Doing it for a living would kill my passion about it
[05:18] <carlos_> Xorlev, hi r u here?
[05:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying it now..now sound.
[05:18] <Cheetahfoot> how do i change the window manager in gnome to windowmaker?
[05:18] <nalioth> bob2: got a new chair-restraining-device, or are you hot-swapping a drive?
[05:18] <nalioth> Cheetahfoot: first, you need to install windowmaker
[05:18] <odatubuntu> crimsun: whats a good command to kill esd
[05:18] <bob2> nalioth: heh, eating breakfast
[05:18] <bob2> odatubuntu: pkill esd
[05:18] <Cheetahfoot> nalioth: it's installed ...
[05:18] <nalioth> Cheetahfoot: then you'll have a choice in your login menu, under "sessions"
[05:18] <bimberi> breakfast!
[05:18] <bimberi> +10?
[05:19] <odatubuntu> bob2: after i do that i should launch ET within the same terminal?
[05:19] <bob2> odatubuntu: doesn't matter
[05:19] <bob2> bimberi: hm, yeah
[05:19] <odatubuntu> i'll give it a shot
[05:19] <bob2> late breakfast
[05:19] <bimberi> bob2: very :)
[05:19] <danl> bob2: do you know if shfs requires anything server side?
[05:20] <bob2> it counts as breakfast because it invovles double espresso and vegemite toast, tho
[05:20] <bob2> danl: don't think so
[05:20] <bimberi> mmmm vegemite
[05:20] <sig> whats vegemite?
[05:20] <nalioth> vegemite rears its ugly head, once more
[05:20] <danl> ok, i am trying it now... problems connecting i think...
[05:20] <carlos_> anybody help, I'm trying to compile some drivers for a modem but after ./configure when I do make I receive some errors I do not understand
[05:21] <Madpilot> sig: Don't ask, trust me ;)
[05:21] <odatubuntu> bob2: nope nope nope nothing i try works
[05:21] <sig> heh
[05:21] <odatubuntu> oh well
[05:22] <intelikey> carlos_ the configure exits cleanly ?
[05:22] <war-totem> carlos, what are the errors?
[05:22] <sig> anyone have a better solution than mplayer-plugin?
[05:22] <bimberi> sig: we'll let you google for that one, looks like it's a sore point :)
[05:22] <odatubuntu> i get this same fucking error everytime
[05:22] <odatubuntu> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[05:22] <carlos_> here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2139  . Yes configure ends right.
[05:22] <odatubuntu> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[05:22] <nalioth> odatubuntu: vulgar language does nothing to help you
[05:22] <crimsun> odatubuntu: cat /proc/asound/modules
[05:22] <war-totem> plazma you get that>
[05:23] <Plazma> war-totem, no i didnt
[05:23] <odatubuntu> nalioth: sorry been working on it for a while  little frustrated
[05:23] <bob2> crimsun: does odatubuntu have oss working at all?
[05:23] <war-totem> i pm'ed you i think
[05:23] <Argetlam> BRB
[05:23] <Plazma> war-totem, i didnt get it
[05:23] <crimsun> bob2: he says he does (I asked him to test mp3blaster)
[05:23] <odatubuntu> bob2: yes i do
[05:24] <bob2> ah
[05:24] <odatubuntu> i set everthing up under oss on the system all other sounds and files work fine
[05:24] <odatubuntu> crimsun this is what i got
[05:24] <odatubuntu> 0 snd_via82xx
[05:24] <bob2> and yo udid the ol' fuser -v /dev/dsp?
[05:24] <odatubuntu> bob2 i'm still really new i don't know anything ol  :)
[05:25] <ksmurf> kde has amarok..... what's the "best" one for gnome?
[05:25] <bob2> I like cplay
[05:25] <carlos_> here is a more complete pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2141
[05:25] <bob2> muin and quod libet seem popular
[05:25] <odatubuntu> ksmurf personally i like quod libet
[05:25] <Plazma> war-totem, just tell me in the room
[05:26] <odatubuntu> ksmurf  its nice and simple and scans your folder on startup
[05:26] <crimsun> odatubuntu: have you done this? echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss && echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[05:26] <odatubuntu> crimsun: nope
[05:26] <danl> bob2: merci... it is running great!
[05:26] <war-totem> how come i cant pm you?
[05:26] <war-totem> what i said was, nice, pirates rock and do you have anymore?
[05:27] <Plazma> war-totem, thanks.. no i have a small portfolio of my hobby artwork i do if you want to see it
[05:27] <carlos_> anybody help please
[05:27] <ksmurf> thanks odatububtu and bob2
[05:27] <war-totem> sure
[05:27] <Plazma> war-totem, i dont think you can pm me, but i can pm you.. jus ta sec
[05:27] <war-totem> why is that?
[05:27] <odatubuntu> crimsun: when i do that in the terminal it leaves me with a less then character
[05:28] <Plazma> war-totem, im not sure, but just respond to the room ok?
[05:28] <war-totem> ok
[05:28] <nalioth> war-totem: you need to register with nickserv if you want to PM folks
[05:28] <war-totem> i have registered
[05:28] <war-totem> a few times now
[05:28] <odatubuntu> then i launched ET and well you guess it   nothing
[05:28] <nalioth> war-totem: you are not identified atm
[05:28] <crimsun> odatubuntu: did you copy and paste exactly?
[05:28] <nalioth> war-totem: which is why you can't msg folks
[05:29] <war-totem> i /msg NICKSERV REGISTER right?
[05:29] <Plazma> shit
[05:29] <nalioth> war-totem: no, you /msg nickserv identify <password>
[05:29] <Plazma> you have to identify with nickserv too
[05:29] <war-totem> everysingle time i log in?
[05:29] <Plazma> yes
[05:29] <nalioth> war-totem: you can have your client do it for you
[05:29] <war-totem> ah
[05:29] <ksmurf> odatubuntu 60 GB to scan
[05:29] <intelikey> carlos_ how old is this package ?     it looks to me like the problem is in the way gcc handles the code.   like it was written for a very earily gcc maybe.      any chance of finding a newer package ?
[05:29] <Plazma> thast true
[05:29] <odatubuntu> crimsun: yea just tried it again and after i hit enter i'm brought to the less than character
[05:29] <war-totem> how do i get xchat to do it?
[05:30] <nalioth> war-totem: in the server properties dialog
[05:30] <Clujo> server list.  edit the irc chat selection, find password, etc
[05:30] <crimsun> odatubuntu: use tee -a instead of tee then
[05:30] <odatubuntu> ksmurf: ahh i was just looking for something that scanned my directory when i added new songs so i didn't have to add them
[05:30] <cafuego> !info kmail breezy
[05:30] <ubotu> kmail: (KDE Email client), section mail, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1905 kB, Installed size: 6188 kB
[05:30] <carlos_> no chance, :( in fact it was very difficult to find that package
[05:30] <fusion2ndpc> :>
[05:31] <war-totem> got it thanks
[05:31] <ksmurf> odatubuntu .... That's what  I want
[05:31] <war-totem> nice work plazma
[05:31] <fusion2ndpc> is there an easy way to get to a command line run level?
[05:31] <fusion2ndpc> without having to totally create it :\
[05:31] <Plazma> war-totem, think so? its not the best.. im just kinda starting out.. its fun and a small hobby i do
[05:31] <fusion2ndpc> or can I shut down X somehow ?
[05:31] <war-totem> no, its great to have a creative hobby
[05:31] <Plazma> a friend wanted me to continue.. so i came up with the pirate comic.. and now ive gotten a lot of minor fanbase (mostly friends, online friends and stuff)
[05:31] <odatubuntu> ksmurf:  well it does my directory really quick and its the only one i found that will do that
[05:31] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: why?
[05:31] <Plazma> and i submittied it to the on campus min paper they do
[05:31] <war-totem> sweet
[05:31] <war-totem> thats how its done
[05:32] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 to install the latest nvidia drivers
[05:32] <Plazma> and now all of a sudden im doing it for that paper lol
[05:32] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: if it's to install nvidia drivers, you don't need to
[05:32] <bob2> ha ha ha
[05:32] <war-totem> what you taking at school?
[05:32] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[05:32] <Plazma> mostly cisco and networkign stuff..
[05:32] <odatubuntu> crimsun i put in the command you gave me tee -a    wherever just tee was and it did the same thing
[05:32] <ksmurf> odatubuntu .... 6000 songs added so far
[05:32] <Plazma> 22 weeks and im done with my BAS
[05:32] <war-totem> ah
[05:32] <Xorlev> fusion2ndpc: Ctrl + Alt + F1
[05:32] <intelikey> carlos_ well the question is not ubuntu specific it is a compile error.   you might have someone in #linuxhelp  or #c++   or someplace have a look at the error.
[05:32] <war-totem> sweet
[05:32] <fusion2ndpc> yeah that drops me to console
[05:32] <fusion2ndpc> I'm there already
[05:32] <fusion2ndpc> but xserver is still running
[05:32] <war-totem> so you dont read .cbz and .cbr comics then?
[05:32] <odatubuntu> ksmurf: i would give that music player a shot if thats a feature you really want
[05:32] <Xorlev> fusion2ndpc: Kill X? killall xorg? /etc/init.d/gdm stop? etc.
[05:33] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 I can get the nvidia drivers installed using synaptic, thats what I did, but I Think tehy are odler
[05:33] <ksmurf> I am right now.....
[05:33] <fusion2ndpc> bleh typos sorry
[05:33] <Plazma> war-totem, acutally i dont read a lot thats non technical, i just like to draw and stuff.. if i did id try to help you but i cant
[05:33] <carlos_> thanks intelikey
[05:33] <war-totem> np
[05:33] <war-totem> the hunt continues...
[05:33] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: yes, they're slightly older; did they not work for you?
[05:33] <crimsun> odatubuntu: make sure you use tab completion on the /proc/asound files
[05:33] <nalioth> war-totem: you want a cbr viewer?
[05:33] <crimsun> fusion2ndpc: man runlevel
[05:33] <war-totem> yes i do
[05:33] <odatubuntu> crimsun: ok that is over my head
[05:34] <war-totem> ive got tons of comics that need reading
[05:34] <crimsun> fusion2ndpc: although you shouldn't be concerned with that
[05:34] <Plazma> war-totem, yea comic book store owners dont take bathes apparently aroun dhere.. there place smells like BO and toilets
[05:35] <chavo> carlos_, that driver won't compile with 2,6,x kernels
[05:36] <chavo> carlos_, have you tried slmodem?
[05:36] <help> hi
[05:36] <fusion2ndpc> hrm
[05:36] <help> i need your help
[05:36] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 I got some error message anyways, about my kernel source not being available
[05:36] <fusion2ndpc> :\
[05:37] <carlos_> no chavo
[05:37] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:37] <carlos_> slmodem is a command?
[05:37] <fusion2ndpc> o.O
[05:37] <bob2> I hope these drivers make your desktop fly, tho
[05:37] <chavo> carlos_, it's a modem driver that may work
[05:37] <k-0tik> how is breezy badger for those who've tryed it?
[05:37] <nalioth> k-0tik: rough at this time
[05:37] <carlos_> I can get it in apt?
[05:38] <help> thre was the problem of my ubuntu gaim internet messenger that there was no webcam desplay i need to know whre to find thanks
[05:38] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 LOL
[05:38] <k-0tik> nalioth oh really? umm i was thinking about tyrying it
[05:38] <help> plz help
[05:38] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 I don't think it will make much of a difference.  I' tell you one thing tho, it seems all laggy
[05:38] <chavo> carlos_, yes get slmodem and sl-modem-modules
[05:38] <nalioth> k-0tik: it's rough, enjoy
[05:38] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 its like sluggish or something, draws slowly
[05:38] <carlos_> ok chavo, gracias
[05:39] <k-0tik> nalioth i hope it gets better by the time it's released next month
[05:39] <help> help
[05:39] <war-totem> hah plazma
[05:39] <Clujo> k-0tik, Ive experienced no problems at all.   Use rsync and desktop sharing, thats it so far.
[05:39] <nalioth> k-0tik: it'll be wonderful by that time
[05:39] <chavo> carlos_, it should set everything up for you
[05:39] <odatubuntu> crimsun: what did you mean by that?
[05:39] <k-0tik> i can't wait
[05:39] <fusion2ndpc> bob2 got another error, couldn't load nvidia.ko module haha
[05:39] <fusion2ndpc> :(
[05:39] <help> there was a device that can ranthe web cam
[05:40] <bob2> fusion2ndpc: there you go then
[05:40] <help> plz help
[05:40] <crimsun> odatubuntu: the /proc/asound/... can be confirmed by using tab completion (press tab)
[05:40] <fusion2ndpc> 'eh?
[05:40] <k-0tik> help, idunno, check gaim see if its supported, see if you can get drivvers or if its needed
[05:40] <carlos_> chavo, lets see
[05:40] <Clujo> help, did you check the ubuntu forums?
[05:40] <chavo> fusion2ndpc, is the old module still loaded?
[05:40] <fusion2ndpc> oh probably
[05:41] <chavo> I did that too
[05:41] <fusion2ndpc> heh
[05:41] <fusion2ndpc> you know the command to unload/reload
[05:41] <help> how can find the forums
[05:41] <fusion2ndpc> ?
[05:41] <chavo> rmmod nvidia
[05:41] <fusion2ndpc> www.ubuntuforms.org?
[05:42] <chavo> then modprobe nvidia to load
[05:42] <fusion2ndpc> muahah
[05:42] <fusion2ndpc> startx
[05:42] <fusion2ndpc> boom
[05:43] <odatubuntu> crimsun: ok i enter the command you gave me then pressed tab and i got a couple of rows of directories
[05:43] <fusion2ndpc> heh
[05:43] <fusion2ndpc> its still all shitty
[05:43] <fusion2ndpc> it looks good, the windows drag around ok, but like if I resize them
[05:44] <fusion2ndpc> dear god, its all choppy
[05:44] <help> i try
[05:44] <help> thanks
[05:45] <odatubuntu> crimsun: did that make any sense?
[05:45] <chavo> fusion2ndpc, did you enable RenderAccel ?
[05:46] <JairunCaloth> I'm not sure how I fixed it... but whatever I did, it worked
[05:46] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: was wondering if you'd ever come back :)
[05:47] <JairunCaloth> :) got frusterated, had to walk a way for a bit
[05:47] <bimberi> i should have warned you how many questions it asks :)
[05:47] <JairunCaloth> I've run that before
[05:47] <JairunCaloth> it didn't help
[05:48] <bimberi> ah, k, what did?
[05:48] <bimberi> er, sorry "i'm not sure"
[05:48] <help> yes
[05:49] <help> there was another way of that
[05:49] <JairunCaloth> well, I was in the shell, and I was going to switch to a backup file on my xorg.conf file, but it wouldn't let me rename the .backup file to the xorg.conf file. Then I deleted the xorg.conf file
[05:49] <JairunCaloth> it still wouldn't let me rename the .backup file though
[05:49] <socrates32> hi
[05:49] <JairunCaloth> I typed ls and then I noticed this was the directory gdm was in, I ran gdm and here I am
[05:50] <pr1r> hey all
[05:50] <JairunCaloth> can X run in runlevel 2?
[05:50] <JairunCaloth> because I suspect I'm still there
[05:51] <bob2> of course
[05:51] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: runlevels 2-5 are the same in ubuntu
[05:51] <bob2> gdm runs in runlevels 2-5 in Ubuntu
[05:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just compressed a text2speech file of 6 MB to 4 KB with speex and it sounds virtually identical to the original.
[05:51] <JairunCaloth> how can I tell what runlevel I'm in?
[05:52] <bimberi> JairunCaloth: "runlevel" in a term (2nd figure)
[05:52] <JairunCaloth> unknown
[05:53] <bob2> JairunCaloth: then you're in 2
[05:53] <help> how can we find gnomemeeting help me
[05:53] <JairunCaloth> so something in a higher runlevel is what is makeing X mess up?
[05:53] <help> thanks for your suppurt
[05:53] <benplaut> !gnomemeeting
[05:53] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:53] <benplaut> grr
[05:54] <fusion2ndpc> hrm
[05:54] <fusion2ndpc> I dunno if render accel is turned on or not
[05:54] <fusion2ndpc> I'll check xorg.conf
[05:54] <socrates32> can anyone help me get my usb mic working?
[05:55] <bob2> JairunCaloth: in what was is X "messed up"?
[05:55] <fusion2ndpc> option render accel true?
[05:55] <fusion2ndpc> basically
[05:55] <bob2> JairunCaloth: and X running or not will make no difference at all to whether you can rename a file or not
[05:56] <JairunCaloth> On a normal boot X won't start, When it asks if I want to view the debuging info the entire system locks up. I can't get past that screen, and I can't even switch terminals
[05:57] <fusion2ndpc> hrm
[05:57] <fusion2ndpc> I guess i need to reboot it
[05:57] <bob2> JairunCaloth: how did you manage that?
[05:57] <fusion2ndpc> shall try
[05:57] <JairunCaloth> I updated
[05:57] <Octane> is there a way to downgrade back to hoary
[05:57] <bob2> by deleting the X config?
[05:57] <bob2> Octane: no
[05:57] <geirix> has anybody tryed out edubuntu?
[05:57] <nalioth> Octane: why do you ask?
[05:57] <JairunCaloth> no, I was trying to use a backup xconfig when that happened.
[05:57] <adamhill> Octane: no sk98lin love? :)
[05:57] <Octane> lol
[05:58] <Octane> nalioth: because breezy aint working for me
[05:58] <nalioth> Octane: patience. it will
[05:58] <stickyboot> so uh, this is my first time running linux
[05:58] <Octane> when will i learn that bleeding edge linux is not a good idea, when
[05:58] <nalioth> stickyboot: welcome!
[05:58] <stickyboot> off the ubuntu live cd ^_^
[05:58] <JairunCaloth> I still don't have an xconfig file
[05:58] <kevogod> stickyboot, Good luck. :-)
[05:59] <stickyboot> hehe, is kinda cool
[05:59] <drapelyk> linux is great, especially the server
[05:59] <adamhill> i have all the pieces, but I get a really unhelpful ***Compiler error
[05:59] <kevogod> I use it religiously now.
[05:59] <nalioth> Octane: it will update itself and be fixed
[05:59] <Octane> nalioth: okay ill just sit and wait :)
[05:59] <Octane> in a terminal
[05:59] <kevogod> I am thinking about starting a Linux religion. Any takers?
[05:59] <adamhill> I have even symlinked a few different versions of gcc to 'gcc'
[05:59] <nalioth> Octane: while you wait, update
[05:59] <JaZy84> hey guys i need to enable some stuff in the kernel. can i just make the changes i need and not worry about anything else. or will i have to reset everything.. i'm getting the source and headers right meow
[05:59] <regeya> CONGRABULATION
[05:59] <JairunCaloth> now it let me rename the .backup file
[05:59] <nalioth> Octane: you are not limited by the terminal
[05:59] <kevogod> We must worship the Penguin.
[05:59] <Octane> im updating every second to see if someting will start working
[06:00] <stickyboot> So, is Fedora much different thean Ubuntu?
[06:00] <stickyboot> i was going to try that out next
[06:00] <kevogod> stickyboot, Fedora is slow and bloated if that is what you mean.
[06:00] <stickyboot> never tried it
[06:00] <IcemanV9> kevogod: you just violated the 1st commandant :P
[06:00] <drapelyk> Why isn't mplayer steaming content very well?
[06:00] <geekchic9> Fedora uses rpms instead of deb files.
[06:00] <Quinthius> stickyboot: probably... completely different package system, different goals as far as target audience..
[06:00] <stickyboot> but i have the ISO just sitting there
[06:00] <kevogod> IcemanV9, Nah, Distributions are only the churches.
[06:01] <kevogod> IcemanV9, I belong to the Ubuntu church.
[06:01] <stickyboot> heheh
[06:01] <IcemanV9> :)
[06:01] <benplaut> kevogod, Ubuntu !s f0 t3h 1337
[06:01] <Octane> has anyone here gotten the sk98lin module to work in breezy?
[06:01] <drapelyk> Why isn't mplayer steaming content very well? anyone have better luck?
[06:01] <benplaut> j/k :P
[06:01] <stickyboot> right now im just trying a few different distros out
[06:01] <stickyboot> seeing wich ones i like
[06:01] <benplaut> ahhhhhhhhhh
[06:01] <benplaut> no wonder!
[06:02] <benplaut> my .trash folder on my jumpdrive was taking 100mb :P
[06:02] <IcemanV9> drapelyk: you're on dial-up? ;)
[06:02] <drapelyk> haha, nope, i'm on 3mbit+ Cable
[06:02] <stickyboot> umm... just a quick noob question.  How do i mount my HDs in the Live CD?
[06:02] <nalioth> stickyboot: it's gonna take more than a few days to figure that one out
[06:02] <stickyboot> eh?
[06:03] <stickyboot> is that not done easily?
[06:03] <IcemanV9> if that's the case, it should be running smooth as silk!
[06:03] <nalioth> stickyboot: each distro is different. you'll need to use one for a while and see how linux is
[06:03] <stickyboot> yeah, i geuss
[06:04] <JairunCaloth> my video hardware acceleration isn't working
[06:04] <stickyboot> i need to be a little more bold and stop just using the live CDs
[06:04] <benplaut> yup
[06:04] <benplaut> precisely :P
[06:04] <benplaut> !mount
[06:04] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[06:05] <stickyboot> ok
[06:05] <stickyboot> umm
[06:05] <stickyboot> ill try that
[06:06] <ksmurf> is there a way to make an mp3 disk that will play in a car stereo that supports mp3's?
[06:06] <geekchic9> !windowsdrives
[06:06] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[06:06] <benplaut> ksmurf, put the mp3s on like you would regular files
[06:06] <ksmurf> benplaut like a data disk?
[06:06] <stickyboot> ubotu, ill try that
[06:06] <ubotu> stickyboot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:07] <nalioth> ksmurf: read your documentation, some players have directory issues
[06:07] <benplaut> ksmurf, AFAIK, yes
[06:07] <stickyboot> eh?
[06:07] <ksmurf> nalioth.... np I am dropping them all in one dir
[06:07] <stickyboot> oh yeah duh woops
[06:07] <ksmurf> thanks
[06:07] <stickyboot> wasnt watchin the names >_<
[06:07] <nalioth> ksmurf: check you docs, some of the dumb players want them under the /
[06:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> !tell me about windowsdrives
[06:10] <f_newton> !backport
[06:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backport is see !backports
[06:10] <f_newton> yo concept10
[06:10] <pawntofour> hi everyone
[06:10] <pawntofour> how to install a cam in ubuntu
[06:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there a way I can rename the mounted partitions on my desktop?
[06:11] <f_newton> !backports
[06:11] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:11] <pawntofour> help
[06:11] <pr1r> i have a question
[06:11] <bob2> pawntofour: no need to be annoying
[06:11] <pr1r> my i shuffle
[06:11] <pr1r> recognized by ubuntu
[06:11] <bob2> pawntofour: you'd need to explain what sort of camera it is before anyone can help you
[06:11] <pr1r> now how do i go about getting songs on it
[06:11] <pr1r> ???
[06:11] <pawntofour> ok.
[06:11] <pr1r> ty in advance
[06:11] <pawntofour> im using a genius web cam.
[06:12] <pawntofour> how to install a driver.
[06:13] <pawntofour> or is it auto detect driver for my cam?
[06:13] <pawntofour> how do i know it is already installed
[06:13] <klex> pawntofour, lsusb?
[06:14] <pawntofour> what do u mean/
[06:14] <f_newton> ! extras
[06:14] <pawntofour> is it a command line?
[06:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:14] <f_newton> dang
[06:14] <f_newton> !extras
[06:14] <ubotu> well, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:15] <nalioth> f_newton: what are you on about?
[06:15] <npfet> has anyone here played with texmacs?
[06:16] <klex> how do i start a module every time the computer boots automaticily?
[06:16] <Madpilot> well, that's cool - ET's sound works without me having to fiddle with it
[06:16] <concept10> f_newton: hey, how is it going? havent seen you in awhile.
[06:16] <pr1r> anyone know how i can get songs on ipod?
[06:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> pr1r, use gtkpod
[06:17] <pr1r> tyty
[06:17] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone have a sources.list they can share for me - I need to have all repositories available. I don't think the one on Ubuntuguide.org would work for Breezy.
[06:17] <communico> hey, I've got a raid working, but there's just one problem. I have to manually mount it every time I reboot by going into root terminal and typing mount /dev/sd0 /raid. any ideas about what file I shoot edit so it does this automatically?
[06:17] <pr1r> doesnt matter that its a shuffle does it?
[06:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just bought on of these
[06:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://reviews.cnet.com/Cowon_iAudio_U2__1GB__Platinum_Black_/4505-6490_7-31129769.html?tag=tab
[06:18] <pr1r> i hate apple so i dont know much about it
[06:18] <Madpilot> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about sources
[06:18] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: er, the default is fine
[06:18] <f_newton> concept10, no I was robbed at gunpoint outside the panera,,, the little bleep took my laptop as well as other  things
[06:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'd by the ipod nano..if it supported vorbis.
[06:18] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: adding random other sources is a recipe for disaster
[06:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> screw 'em.
[06:18] <pr1r> lol
[06:18] <geirix> somebody got raid working on ubuntu?
[06:18] <maze> carl4: foresigh linux is very good and has gnome 2.12 if you are looking for an alternative
[06:18] <bob2> communico: /etc/fstab
[06:18] <bob2> geirix: lots of people do
[06:18] <bob2> geirix: or are yo utalking about software raid?
[06:18] <geirix> bob2: software
[06:19] <holycow> i looooove the splash screen.  it's funy how it seems to make the time go faster during boot
[06:19] <geirix> bob2: have been trying and it doesn't seem to work
[06:19] <concept10> f_newton: seriously?
[06:19] <BlueEagle> communico: Are you mounting /dev/sd* for raid? I thought raid was /dev/md*
[06:19] <f_newton> lol why does everyone ask that?
[06:20] <f_newton> like I would lie about a thing like that
[06:20] <f_newton> lol
[06:20] <concept10> heh
[06:20] <f_newton> yes... really  seriously...
[06:20] <communico> BlueEagle: ah yes, typo, sorry
[06:20] <BlueEagle> communico: ;D
[06:20] <f_newton> I was robbed and carjacked... but my crappy car quit on em a half a block down the road
[06:20] <communico> geirix: how many harddrives are you trying to put in the raid?
[06:20] <geirix> 2 drives
[06:20] <f_newton> so they left it but took everything
[06:20] <BlueEagle> communico: But bob2 was absolutely right about the file needing to be edited being /etc/fstab
[06:21] <concept10> I thought you might have been helping the 'refugees' or something
[06:21] <f_newton> lol yeah more like they wuz helpin themselves
[06:21] <concept10> lmao
[06:21] <BlueEagle> geirix: Did you compile raid support into the kernel or as modules? Did you remember raidstart?
[06:21] <bob2> it's funny how people are so unwilling to use the term "refugee" there
[06:21] <geirix> yes
[06:21] <f_newton> I just put this quad xeon together so that I could check my email
[06:21] <BlueEagle> geirix: Did you set the partition types as raid?
[06:21] <geirix> yes
[06:22] <geirix> everything by the book
[06:22] <communico> bob2: BlueEagle: I added "/dev/md0 /raid ext3 defaults	0 1" to fstab. do you think that should do it?
[06:22] <concept10> holycow: are you talking about the breezy live cd?
[06:22] <geirix> just won't work
[06:22] <BlueEagle> geirix: How does your /etc/raidtab look?
[06:22] <f_newton> its the only server I ave up so far
[06:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> bob2, when I try to install w32codecs, I get: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> is only available from another source
[06:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> oops
[06:22] <bob2> communico: if those are the write values, yes
[06:22] <concept10> bob2: I just cant spell evacuee
[06:22] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: yes, of course, it's not in ubuntu and never will be
[06:22] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: just download it and install it with dpkg
[06:22] <ds[de] > just a quick question, is it possible to run quake 3 under ubuntu?
[06:23] <BlueEagle> communico: Might want to check raid at every boot so defaults 1 1 would probably be better.
[06:23] <Octane> what package contains nvidia drivers?
[06:23] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: w32codecs are in hoary-extras repo
[06:23] <[Chameleon] > What happened to /etc/modules.conf in Breezy?
[06:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> maddler, is there a breezy-extras?
[06:23] <bob2> ds[de] : sure
[06:23] <BlueEagle> octane: nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[06:23] <communico> thanks guys, I'm going to go reboot ...
[06:23] <thoreauputic> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about codecs
[06:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> err
[06:23] <bob2> Octane: linux-restricted-modules
[06:23] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: not yet
[06:23] <BlueEagle> octane: hint: apt-cache search nvidia
[06:23] <ds[de] > bob2: great, any idea where to get more informations on that subject?
[06:23] <luckyaba> anyone know how to sign jar files?
[06:24] <BlueEagle> luckyaba: print them out on paper and using a pen? :p
[06:24] <[Chameleon] > !breezy modules
[06:24] <ubotu> [Chameleon] : I give up, what is it?
[06:24] <IcemanV9> will wifi-manager (or similiar ap)  be in the next release (Breezy)??
[06:24] <bob2> ds[de] : ID?
[06:24] <[Chameleon] > !modules
[06:24] <ubotu> [Chameleon] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:24] <luckyaba> BlueEagle: god i wish it was that easy
[06:24] <IcemanV9> */ap/app
[06:24] <bob2> IcemanV9: networkmanager is in breezy
[06:24] <BlueEagle> luckyaba: :)
[06:24] <stickyboot> ok, one more noob question
[06:24] <IcemanV9> c00li0. :)
[06:24] <ds[de] > bob2: lol well, probably a good idea I'll check it out tnx :)
[06:25] <stickyboot> what are some other popular well developed distros besides fedora and ubuntu?
[06:25] <bob2> stickyboot: Debian
[06:25] <stickyboot> oh yeah
[06:25] <bob2> stickyboot: not for the faint hearted or unwilling to learn, tho
[06:25] <stickyboot> that one is tough?
[06:25] <BlueEagle> stickyboot: Mandriva and Linspire have come a long way too.
[06:26] <stickyboot> ok cool, ill look at those
[06:26] <stickyboot> any others?
[06:26] <nalioth> stickyboot: libranet
[06:26] <BlueEagle> stickyboot: Then you've got gentoo which has got support almost as good as ubuntu. :p
[06:26] <thoreauputic> stickyboot: some people have had good luck with mepis, I believe
[06:26] <bob2> libranet appears to be unmaintained
[06:27] <bob2> mepis appears to have poor support
[06:27] <BlueEagle> Well, I'm calling it the night. Be sure to tip your waitress.
[06:27] <f_newton> bob2, I was not really impressed with mepis due to its total immersion in kde
[06:27] <thoreauputic> bob2: I believe the founder of libranet died recently ...
[06:27] <stickyboot> a few sources said that Ubuntu was one of the better ones to learn on, although i have no way to verify this
[06:28] <bob2> stickyboot: that's true
[06:29] <f_newton> stickyboot, ubuntu is really a pretty good distro
[06:29] <concept10> stickyboot: you may learn on any distro, ubuntu has good resources for you to do so
[06:29] <luckyaba> ery true
[06:29] <luckyaba> very true
[06:29] <stickyboot> cool
[06:29] <stickyboot> i actually did try fedora out first on my thinkpad, but the sound didnt work
[06:29] <stickyboot> so i gave up
[06:29] <stickyboot> and moved to ubuntu
[06:29] <ben__> can anybody help me dual boot between ubuntu on an IDE and windows on an SATA?
[06:30] <Octane> i cant even friggin paste, troubleshooting this crap is such a bitch
[06:30] <ben__> using grub...
[06:32] <stickyboot> ok, well, im going to get this other computer back together so i can actually do a real install :p
[06:32] <stickyboot> later
[06:33] <Octane> anyone here having problems with breezy and nvidia drivers?
[06:33] <volvoguy> Octane, i had to use nvidia's installer on breezy.
[06:33] <benplaut> Octane, i wouldn't doubt if close to everyne did :P
[06:34] <hello1123> does anybody know how i can get my broadcom 4306 wireless card working ?
[06:34] <Octane> why is it that i read about problems people had AFTER i take the same steps they did :)
[06:34] <Octane> volvoguy: you recompiled your kernel with gcc 3.3?
[06:34] <concept10> hello1123: use ndiswrapper with your windows driver
[06:34] <ubuntu> I'm running ubuntu from live cd.  anyone know if I can access my hard drive from it?
[06:35] <volvoguy> Octane, no... you just have to use a specific gcc version for compiling the driver (or interface or whatever it is)
[06:35] <bz0b> ubuntu, yes, you just mount it
[06:35] <ubuntu> sorry, I am new to this. How do you do that?
[06:35] <Octane> volvoguy: can you be more specific?
[06:36] <volvoguy> Octane, hmm.... maybe.... it was one of those late night, half asleep kinda things. :) gimme a minute.
[06:36] <nalioth> volvoguy: i see you've survived your breezination
[06:36] <bz0b> for example, do this, mkdir /mnt/hd && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hd && cd /mnt/hd
[06:36] <asdx> where the ubuntu people takes the money for making and shipping cd's, etc?
[06:36] <ubuntu> I'll try it. thanks
[06:37] <avi> Howdy!  Just installed Ubuntu on my HP laptop (pavilion zt1000), and I'm trying to install a package to enable the 'hotkey' buttons on the top of the keyboard...
[06:37] <volvoguy> nalioth, yep! installed fine. i'm hoping to pick up a usb wireless thingie this week.
[06:37] <bob2> asdx: services
[06:37] <bz0b> volvoguy, NOOOOOOOO!
[06:37] <nalioth> volvoguy: keep me advised as to what you find (and if it works) please
[06:37] <drapelyk> avi... bleh
[06:37] <Quinthius> asdx: the founder of ubuntu is like a multimillionaire or something, and i'm sure they have donations and such too
[06:37] <drapelyk> lol
[06:37] <avi> ... the instructions tell me to make install, but I'm not having any luck with that.
[06:37] <asdx> bob2: services?
[06:37] <volvoguy> bz0b, ?
[06:37] <bob2> Quinthius: more than that
[06:37] <bz0b> volvoguy, don't get usb wifi
[06:37] <asdx> I see
[06:37] <drapelyk> avi "sudo make install
[06:37] <bz0b> volvoguy, it sucks! hard core~!
[06:37] <volvoguy> bz0b, what do you suggest?
[06:37] <bob2> Quinthius: and donations only go towards ubuntu itself (ie bounties)
[06:37] <avi> from the terminal prompt?
[06:37] <drapelyk> yeah
[06:37] <Quinthius> bob2: what other sources of funds are there?
[06:38] <bz0b> volvoguy, get a netgear wg511t
[06:38] <bob2> asdx: like support and customisations and stuff
[06:38] <bob2> Quinthius: ^^
[06:38] <asdx> cool
[06:38] <drapelyk> avi I think anyway
[06:38] <avi> I did that: got -- sudo: make: command not found.
[06:38] <bz0b> volvoguy, very compatible, and good if you want to aircrack too
[06:38] <volvoguy> bz0b, and that'll plug into my ibook? :-P
[06:38] <nalioth> bz0b: what would you prefer one to use, if they dont have pcmica slot?
[06:38] <bob2> avi: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:38] <drapelyk> avi hmm... lol I suck thanks bob2
[06:38] <avi> thanks, bob2, I'll try that.
[06:39] <volvoguy> the dlink dwl-122 (or something like that) seems to be the popular choice.
[06:39] <Quinthius> bob2: i meant that out of real curiousity btw :) how are all the costs covered aside from shuttleworth and donations?
[06:39] <bz0b> volvoguy, nalioth, then get internal wireless!
[06:39] <Octane> volvoguy: mind telling me how you got nvidia to work?
[06:39] <bz0b> like minipci
[06:39] <bz0b> if that isnt an option, then i guess usb as last resort
[06:39] <avi> oh duh... I can't believe I tried to make without gcc... LOL
[06:39] <bz0b> can you not get the apple wifi card working on ubuntu
[06:39] <nalioth> bz0b: are you familiar with ibooks?
[06:39] <volvoguy> bz0b, internal wireless doesn't have linux support.
[06:39] <bz0b> nalioth, nope
[06:39] <volvoguy> Octane, i'm working on it. i promise. :)
[06:39] <bob2> Quinthius: from services stuff; I don't know how much of what I've heard is confidential,s o I can't say anymore, sorry
[06:40] <nalioth> bz0b: the chip in the new ibooks is not usable under linux
[06:40] <bz0b> volvoguy, my friends dell latitude d600 does
[06:40] <avi> I'm surprised it wasn't already installed on the basic install.
[06:40] <Octane> volvoguy: thanks man
[06:40] <bz0b> nalioth, ah, i see
[06:40] <adamhill> Octane: on BreezyI just i typed nvidia into Synaptic and installed the package from there
[06:40] <FlyingSquirrel31> Is gnome 2.12 going to make it into breezy?
[06:40] <nalioth> bz0b: ibook users need a USB dongle
[06:40] <adamhill> *packages
[06:40] <nalioth> FlyingSquirrel31: yes it is
[06:40] <Octane> adamhill: the fact that you were in synaptic shows that you didnt have the nvidia problem im having :)
[06:40] <bz0b> nalioth, ok, well just get a dwl g122 then
[06:40] <Quinthius> bob2: not sure what you mean by services
[06:40] <FlyingSquirrel31> cool, can't wait.
[06:40] <bob2> FlyingSquirrel31: yes, of course
[06:40] <ubuntu> bz0b: would I mount the hard drive from the terminal?
[06:40] <adamhill> oh hold on there
[06:40] <bob2> Quinthius: e.g. people can pay canonical to make a custom version of ubuntu for them
[06:40] <bz0b> ubuntu, yes :P if that isnt too hard now
[06:40] <Quinthius> bob2: ahhh
[06:41] <bob2> Quinthius: or pay to have some particular bug that they really really care about be fixed
[06:41] <avi> do I need to install X11, or should that already be installed?
[06:41] <bob2> Quinthius: or to port it to their brand new type of computer
[06:41] <ubuntu> I'm just getting started with linux, I've no past experience
[06:41] <bob2> avi: awhat are you doing?
[06:41] <bz0b> avi, do you have GUI?
[06:41] <avi> yes
[06:41] <bz0b> then you already have X11
[06:41] <avi> That's what I thought.
[06:41] <ubuntu> I'll play with it. thanks anyway
[06:41] <avi> I just didn't know how to get to the configuration of X11.
[06:41] <bob2> avi: what are you compiling?
[06:42] <volvoguy> Octane, i think this is it.... before you run the installer, do a "CC=gcc-3.4" and then "export CC".
[06:42] <avi> since when I was looking up how to tailor Ubuntu to my laptop, the page suggested a bunch of different modifications...
[06:42] <volvoguy> Octane, i think that's right.
[06:42] <avi> ...X11 being one of them.
[06:42] <bob2> avi: I'd be very very careful reading pages like that
[06:43] <bz0b> yes
[06:43] <laszlo> im trying to do a ./configure but it says i dont have the x includes. What packages do i need?
[06:43] <adamhill> Octane : linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-686,  nvidia-glx-* and (oddly enough - i think this came from an upgrade) xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[06:43] <avi> Well, I take everything I read on the 'net with a grain (or two or three) of salt... ;)
[06:43] <avi> Still, I'd like to be able to get the extra buttons working at the very least.
[06:44] <Octane> volvoguy: thanks man
[06:44] <nalioth> laszlo: install "xlibs-dev"
[06:44] <volvoguy> Octane, anytime. :)
[06:44] <thoreauputic> laszlo: probably xlibs-dev
[06:44] <avi> Also, does Ubuntu or GNU/Linux support Hibernation on laptops, or is that strictly a Microsoft thingie?
[06:44] <Octane> volvoguy: which source did you get?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh
[06:44] <Octane> i have the wrong source
[06:45] <volvoguy> Octane, i have an older card. i needed 7167
[06:45] <whyameye> avi, ubuntu supports Hibernation. It can be iffy apparently on some machines. All I know is that it works perfectly on my HP
[06:45] <Octane> volvoguy: no i mean which linux source did you get
[06:45] <klex> when i log in to gnome my sound get very slow and wierd, what can i do to fix this?
[06:45] <adamhill> avi: yes, but support for given laptop is a highly variable thing
[06:45] <scott1967> hi guys- i've never used linux and my buddy gave me a ubuntu disk, so i loaded it. have no idea how to install a cdburner program or dvd burner program or even where to get one?
[06:46] <volvoguy> Octane, oh.... do a "uname -r" and see what kernel you're running. you have to rebuild the thing every time there's a kernel upgrade.
[06:46] <pajama> should I try a dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, or a fresh install would be better?
[06:46] <nalioth> pajama: the point of debian, is never to have to 'install' the OS again
[06:46] <bob2> scott1967: you already have one
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !tell scott1967 about docs
[06:46] <avi> Yes, that's why I looked up specific instances on the web of people who installed Ubuntu on an HP laptop pavilion zt1000.
[06:46] <bob2> scott1967: insert a blank cd
[06:46] <whyameye> scott1967, I recommend you look in the Synaptic Package Manager for K3b.
[06:46] <Octane> volvoguy: ah crap i forgot i was booted into 2.6.10 brb
[06:46] <nalioth> pajama: a dist-upgrade is the expected path of upgrade
[06:46] <Octane> thanks a millin youve helped a lot
[06:47] <linux-noob> hello people!!
[06:47] <muep> scott1967: why need cd burner if you already have the disk?
[06:47] <avi> Hmmm... okay, gcc is installed, but sudo make install still crapped out.
[06:47] <linux-noob> can somebody pm me, i need to ask something about ubunto installation
[06:47] <scott1967> found k3b, but how do i start it
[06:47] <whyameye> avi,  I use an HP ZT1260. Might be similar? Anyway, ubuntu runs perfectly on it.
[06:47] <nalioth> linux-noob: ask in here
[06:47] <linux-noob> oki
[06:48] <volvoguy> now that i helped someone with compiling something, can someone tell me if there's a non-ubuntu dev channel somewhere that can help with general compiling problems?
[06:48] <linux-noob> if i install the ubunto, what will happen to windows xp currently installed on it?
[06:48] <nalioth> scott1967: applications > run application > k3b <enter>
[06:48] <whyameye> scott1967, you already installed k3b? Then type 'k3b' in a terminal window.
[06:48] <bob2> volvoguy: here
[06:48] <nalioth> volvoguy: sure thing
[06:48] <volvoguy> ok. you guys asked for it. :)
[06:49] <bob2> laszlo: what are you trying to compile?
[06:49] <volvoguy> nalioth, i'm on my intel box atm.
[06:49] <muep> linux-noob: you need to make a partition or two for linux
[06:49] <avi> whyameye: yes, but can you use your extra buttons?
[06:49] <laszlo> i think i got it
[06:49] <laszlo> svn of amarok
[06:49] <volvoguy> nalioth, yeah... just lots to type. one sec.
[06:49] <pajama> nalioth: thanks
[06:49] <ksmurf> I couldn't get gnomebaker to work but k3b will.... Do permissions have something to do with it?
[06:49] <linux-noob> so i have to reformat the harddisk again???
[06:50] <laszlo> on a fresh breezy install with no dev packages
[06:50] <muep> linux-noob: yes, at least partially
[06:50] <bob2> laszlo: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[06:50] <bob2> laszlo: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:50] <bob2> laszlo: all done
[06:50] <whyameye> avi, the extra buttons don't work. I know there are apps to make them work, but I haven't looked into it.
[06:50] <bob2> laszlo: well, all ready to compile it, anyway
[06:50] <volvoguy> there's this glove, designed for gaming - a "stimulus P5 glove". it's discontinued now but there are a lot of musicians using it as a controller for midi related things.
[06:50] <laszlo> bob2: whats that all abotu
[06:50] <whyameye> avi, when I had WinXP on this machine, I never used the extra buttons, so I just didn't miss them. The volume, mute, and screen brightness buttons do work.
[06:51] <avi> the pages were good at telling what they did to configure their Linux HP laptops, but they weren't so good for people who've never compiled stuff or recompiled kernels before.
[06:51] <linux-noob> if i have a partition already, for example a drive d, and on the drive c is windows xp, can i make the other drive linux????
[06:51] <bob2> laszlo: it installs all you need to build it
[06:51] <volvoguy> the code is quite old i think. configure ran fine but i get all kinds of errors when i run make.
[06:51] <bob2> you do not need to recompile kernels to work on HP laptops
[06:51] <bob2> linux-noob: yes
[06:51] <avi> Okay, it appears that the volume, mute buttons work... I don't have screen brightness buttons, but I do have buttons on the front for CD music.
[06:51] <muep> linux-noob: yes, but know that the d drive will get erased if you decide to use it
[06:52] <holycow> also, you can buy them with ubuntu preinstalled i understand, or soon will be
[06:52] <bz0b> volvoguy, so is the new ibook good? i really want to get the 14inch with 512ram, maybe more, but i dont know how to compare an ibooks memory usage or processor usage with a pc
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> My pooor Turion Based laptop - dose not like the default kernel very much. :(
[06:52] <holycow> where everything will work i hope
[06:52] <winner> new iBook? Intel?
[06:52] <bob2> Dr_Willis: please file bugs
[06:52] <avi> Plus, I have a glowing blue buttong that turns wireless on and off.
[06:52] <bz0b> no
[06:52] <bz0b> ppc
[06:52] <winner> oh
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> bob2,  its a bug with the kernel :P being fixed in the next releases. (or so ive read)
[06:52] <bob2> bz0b: they're pretty good linux machines, aside from having non-working wireless
[06:52] <bob2> Dr_Willis: is it in the ubuntu bugzilla?
[06:52] <linux-noob> how large disk space to install all i need for linux and other applications?
[06:52] <bob2> linux-noob: 1.8GB
[06:52] <thoreauputic> holycow: wireless (airport extreme) won't work
[06:52] <volvoguy> bz0b, i think they're a great deal for the quality of the machine.
[06:52] <winner> wireless on ppc doesn't work?!
[06:52] <laszlo> whats aptitude?
[06:52] <bob2> winner: airport extreme does not
[06:52] <muep> linux-noob: how big is your hd?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> bob2,  its a kernel bug sae mention of it on the kernel mailing list i think.
[06:52] <holycow> thoreauputic, on the hp laptops?
[06:53] <bob2> laszlo: another package management tool
[06:53] <nalioth> winner: excuse me?
[06:53] <linux-noob> 20GB
[06:53] <whyameye> avi, my machine also has the CD control buttons on the front, and these don't seem to operate currently. I don't have built-in wireless.
[06:53] <winner> i see.
[06:53] <winner> that sucks.
[06:53] <bob2> Dr_Willis: please do file it for ubuntu then, or it's unlikely to get fixed...
[06:53] <holycow> i thought that was a mac thing
[06:53] <thoreauputic> holycow: ah sorry I misread
[06:53] <avi> hmmm... bummer.
[06:53] <bz0b> do you think any developers will soon come out with some linux compatible drivers for it
[06:53] <bob2> linux-noob: no, 1.8GB
[06:53] <holycow> :)
[06:53] <nalioth> holycow: it's a broadcom thang
[06:53] <bob2> bz0b: not soon
[06:53] <winner> nalioth: no i was referring to what bob2 said.
[06:53] <linux-noob> ok thanks
[06:53] <kevin06> Is it possible to use update-rc.d to list startup scripts in the same manner as chkconfig?
[06:53] <bz0b> and by the way isnt the mac os really close to like a linux box, set aside the windows manager
[06:53] <muep> linux-noob: the minimum for ubuntu is around 2 G but probably about 5 G would be more reasonable
[06:53] <bob2> kevin06: no, use ls
[06:53] <bob2> bz0b: not really
[06:54] <bz0b> because in my experience not much diffrence in a freebsd box then a linux box
[06:54] <nalioth> bz0b: it is a *nix, yes
[06:54] <bob2> bz0b: they both have something unix-like underneath, so somethings are similar
[06:54] <avi> well, thanks for the help, everyone!  At least I now have gcc and such installed, so that's a Good Thing (TM).
[06:54] <avi> cya later!
[06:54] <volvoguy> bz0b, it'd be nice to see something like ndiswrapper, but i doubt it'll happen (even though OS X is another *nix-like OS.
[06:54] <bz0b> does it have tar?
[06:54] <bz0b> hehe
[06:54] <bob2> bz0b: it has bsd tar
[06:54] <asdx> u have to listen this xDD it roxxx xDDD :D:D:D http://www.di.fm/aacplus/chillout.pls
[06:54] <bz0b> cool
[06:54] <bob2> and probably gtar
[06:54] <bob2> I forget
[06:54] <bz0b> how can i compare 512 ram of a ibook to a pc ram
[06:54] <linux-noob> do i have to specify what drive to install linux????
[06:55] <bob2> bz0b: the same
[06:55] <muep> linux-noob: yes
[06:55] <bz0b> really?
[06:55] <bob2> bz0b: mac os X really does need 512mb, tho
[06:55] <bz0b> someone said it uses it diffrently
[06:55] <bob2> linux-noob: of course...
[06:55] <bob2> bz0b: that person would be confused
[06:55] <volvoguy> bz0b, i'd get as much as you can afford.
[06:55] <holycow> http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/deskbar-screencast.html  <-- check this preview of gnome 2.12
[06:55] <holycow> neato
[06:55] <bz0b> alright
[06:55] <bz0b> i want a gig, but maybe 768
[06:55] <linux-noob> ill be back, ill try to install this on my other pc...thx a lot
[06:55] <chizang> dumb question: what does it mean to be "identified" in the context of irc? i'm trying to join #python and it says i must be identified to join the channel
[06:55] <volvoguy> bz0b, you can get a gig for about $130.
[06:55] <bob2> bz0b: students get nice discounts from apple, if you know one or are one
[06:55] <muep> linux-noob: good luck
[06:55] <bob2> chizang: /msg nickserv help
[06:56] <bz0b> bob2, i am a high school student :-)
[06:56] <bob2> chizang: you need to login to the irc server, more or less
[06:56] <nalioth> bz0b: you can also go to apple.com/store and click the red tag on the bottom right
[06:56] <chizang> bob2, ok, thanks
[06:56] <Madpilot> chizang: type "/msg nickserv help" for registration info
[06:57] <bz0b> nalioth, how are the iMac G5s?
[06:57] <bob2> they're very shiney
[06:57] <volvoguy> so... back to my compiling problems. one of the first errors is about a missing usb.h. would that be in the libusb-dev package?
[06:57] <bz0b> hehe
[06:57] <bob2> volvoguy: what are you compiling?
[06:57] <drapelyk> chizang: so no one can steal your nickname
[06:57] <bz0b> I actually like the mac os, i think it is pretty nice
[06:57] <nalioth> bz0b: in what way?
[06:57] <volvoguy> bob2, oh man. i'm not typing all that again. lol.
[06:58] <bytefoo> how do i make an application start when gnome starts
[06:58] <volvoguy> there's this glove, designed for gaming - a "stimulus P5 glove". it's discontinued now but there are a lot of musicians using it as a controller for midi related things.
[06:58] <bz0b> nalioth, like, firstly, the gui gets me, secondly, the user-friendlyness of it, and thirdly, that i get a full bash terminal when i want to go scipting
[06:58] <bob2> volvoguy: right, so you're compiling some userspace usb driver?
[06:58] <volvoguy> bob2, apparently.
[06:58] <bob2> bz0b: system -> preferences -> session
[06:58] <WMCoolmon> hey, does anyone know if its better to start fresh with a kubuntu breezy install or to simply upgrade?
[06:59] <nalioth> bz0b: the imac G5 works great
[06:59] <bytefoo> and secondly, how do i reinstall a piece of hardware
[06:59] <WMCoolmon> i'm starting from an ubuntu-hoary install
[06:59] <bz0b> bob2, why did you tell me that?
[06:59] <robotgeek> nalioth: even sound?
[06:59] <bob2> bah
[06:59] <bob2> bytefoo: system -> preferences -> session
[06:59] <bob2> bz0b: because I suck
[06:59] <bz0b> bob2, haha
[06:59] <bob2> bytefoo: "reinstall"?
[06:59] <bytefoo> yeah
[06:59] <bz0b> bob2, no, you are the most helpful in here
[07:00] <nalioth> robotgeek: are we talking ubuntu on the G5 imac or the iMac G5 in general?
[07:00] <bob2> bytefoo: what are you hoping to acheieve?
[07:00] <bytefoo> my ipw2200 is detected in the device manager, but doesn't show up in the network configuration
[07:00] <scott1967> ok-got to k3b, but now it wants cdrdao package!!!
[07:00] <bz0b> ubuntu on it
[07:00] <bytefoo> and i believe i removed it somehow at some point
[07:00] <bytefoo> but i forget how
[07:00] <bob2> bytefoo: then there's nothing to reinstall
[07:00] <bz0b> nalioth, how would it be? faster then a intel 3.0 ghz?
[07:00] <robotgeek> ubuntu
[07:00] <thoreauputic> scott1967: right - install it
[07:00] <bob2> bytefoo: is the module loaded?
[07:00] <whyameye> scott1967, did you install K3b using Synaptic?
[07:00] <bytefoo> ooh no its not...
[07:00] <bytefoo> that's odd...
[07:00] <thoreauputic> scott1967: it should really be automatic, but something is wrong withthe dependency check
[07:01] <scott1967> yes
[07:01] <WMCoolmon> hmm, does anyone know what this means then? " FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap"
[07:01] <bytefoo> why didnt it start o_O
[07:01] <omp> http://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=595   < read that
[07:01] <bytefoo> oh snap, bad ieee80211 version :X
[07:01] <bytefoo> how the hell...
[07:02] <bz0b> but i need to be on the go, and with up to 6 hour battery life, that can do me good
[07:02] <volvoguy> would throwing the output of configure into the pastebin help at all?
[07:02] <kevin06> Is chkconfig and service part of a package in the Ubuntu repos, and if so, what is the package name?
[07:02] <omp> "HP to ship Ubuntu PCs, serious about Linux"
[07:02] <WMCoolmon> anyone, Ubuntu->Kubuntu or Enlarged logical partitions help?
[07:02] <bob2> kevin06: no, this is not redhat
[07:02] <bz0b> now what if i could afford, i would get is like a 17 or even 15 inch powerbook
[07:02] <thoreauputic> bz0b: "up to" is the operative phrase
[07:02] <bob2> bz0b: no apple laptop will give you six hours
[07:02] <bob2> bz0b: not without extra batteries
[07:02] <thoreauputic> bz0b: but battery times are good
[07:02] <bob2> bytefoo: ubuntu kernel?
[07:03] <scott1967> can not find cdrdao
[07:03] <bytefoo> 2.6.10-5-686
[07:03] <bz0b> bob2, yeah, but still better then my 1 hour 30 min max compaq presario 2100
[07:03] <thoreauputic> !info cdrdao
[07:03] <bob2> bytefoo: my x40, with the extended-life battery could get 5.5 hours with dim screen and no wireless
[07:03] <ubotu> cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB
[07:03] <bytefoo> but i had to build my own ieee80211 i remember
[07:03] <bob2> it's in universe
[07:03] <bob2> someone has to walk scott1967 through that
[07:03] <bob2> bytefoo: wtf
[07:03] <thoreauputic> scott1967: in the universe repository
[07:03] <bytefoo> because the madwifi drivers that come with hoary are mad old :X
[07:04] <bytefoo> yeah
[07:04] <bob2> bytefoo: ipw2200 does not use madwifi
[07:04] <bytefoo> ...crap :|
[07:04] <bytefoo> i know
[07:04] <WMCoolmon> does anyone have any exp or advice regarding ubuntu->kubuntu
[07:04] <WMCoolmon> ?
[07:04] <bytefoo> this is for a pcmcia card
[07:04] <robotgeek> !tell scott1967 about repos
[07:04] <thoreauputic> !tell scott1967 about sources
[07:04] <bytefoo> not me WMCoolmon
[07:04] <bz0b> for pcmcia card, i would recommend the netgear wg511t
[07:04] <volvoguy> WMCoolmon, what kind of advice?
[07:04] <bytefoo> the one i have is great
[07:04] <bytefoo> DWL-G650
[07:04] <scott1967> oh my- seems there is more to this than i thought
[07:05] <linux-noob> hello again ^_^
[07:05] <WMCoolmon> volvoguy: I'd like to know if there's any benefit to starting fresh
[07:05] <thoreauputic> scott1967: it's not hard really :)
[07:05] <bytefoo> does passive monitoring, packet injection, and can be modded for an external antenna
[07:05] <bytefoo> all for $30 :X
[07:05] <linux-noob> i just want to clarify something???
[07:05] <volvoguy> WMCoolmon, compared to just dist-upgrading?
[07:05] <WMCoolmon> volvoguy: yeah
[07:05] <thoreauputic> scott1967: you just need to change some lines in your sources.list
[07:05] <whyameye> scott1967, I'm surprised cdrdao didn't download and install automatically. any case, have you done a search for cdrdao in Synaptic?
[07:05] <volvoguy> WMCoolmon, personally i'd say no, unless your current install is really screwed up.
[07:06] <linux-noob> in the partition part of the installation, is the primary the drive c and the logical is the drive d????
[07:06] <thoreauputic> whyameye: he needs niverse, which he evidently doesn't have yet
[07:06] <WMCoolmon> volvoguy: thanks :)
[07:06] <bob2> linux-noob: no
[07:06] <volvoguy> WMCoolmon, anytime. :)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> scott1967: I cn help you in pm if you wish
[07:06] <thoreauputic> *can
[07:06] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[07:06] <linux-noob> no??? so what is the drive c then?
[07:06] <scott1967> 3 times now-remeber now-i have no clue what i'm doing:)
[07:06] <odatubuntu>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY palmer
[07:07] <WMCoolmon> one remaining question, i apparently have a "enlarged logical partitions overlap"
[07:07] <WMCoolmon> is there any way to fix that?
[07:07] <bob2> odatubuntu: time change your password
[07:07] <odatubuntu> anyone know how to uninstall Enemy territory?
[07:07] <volvoguy> WMCoolmon, that's one i've never heard before.
[07:07] <odatubuntu> sup bob
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> odatubuntu,  how did you Install it?
[07:08] <linux-noob> bob2: what is the drive c then?
[07:08] <odatubuntu> dr_willis: yes
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> odatubuntu,  HOW did you Install it?
[07:08] <bob2> linux-noob: a drive, which is different to a partition
[07:08] <odatubuntu> bob2: do you know how i can uninstall this thing i'm done playing with it
[07:08] <bob2> depends on how you installed it
[07:08] <odatubuntu> dr_willis: it was a graphical installer
[07:08] <linux-noob> ok
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> odatubuntu,  so you did not use the apt-get stuff or synaptic?
[07:09] <odatubuntu> dr_willis: no
[07:09] <ripgut> anyone know if the zen micro can work in ubuntu?
[07:09] <ripgut> i did a "lsusb" and it comes up
[07:09] <ripgut> but how do i access it?
[07:09] <bz0b> oh god what i would do for someone to come over and just connect to my wifi for about 30-40 minutes, so i can test aircrack
[07:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> !tell me about java
[07:09] <bob2> is it a usb-storage device?
[07:09] <odatubuntu> bob2: i used this sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[07:09] <WMCoolmon> anyone...enlarged logical partitions overlap problem...anyone....
[07:09] <bob2> WMCoolmon: clearly no one here knows; what did google say? nothing in the list archives?
[07:10] <WMCoolmon> the only thing i could really find was to reformat and start over
[07:11] <bz0b> I <3 reformatting
[07:11] <ds[de] > WMCoolmon: when do you get the error?
[07:11] <WMCoolmon> i have little confidence in that working since i only partitioned the drive with the Ubuntu installer
[07:11] <WMCoolmon> when i run cfdisk
[07:11] <volvoguy> my brain hurts. i applaud you guys that are always in here helping. i'll be back in a few.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> WMCoolmon,  wjhat is giving you that error? the installer?
[07:11] <ds[de] > WMCoolmon query
[07:11] <WMCoolmon> no, i get the error when I run cfdisk
[07:12] <WMCoolmon> "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[07:12] <WMCoolmon>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:12] <WMCoolmon> "
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> WMCoolmon,  You some how got it mispartioned it seems
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> did you allready partion this drive once? or wjhats on it now?
[07:12] <odatubuntu> anyone know how i uninstall this thing?
[07:12] <WMCoolmon> it was new when i got it
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> 'new' as in fromn the box?
[07:13] <WMCoolmon> yes, i basically took it out and installed ubuntu on it. i may have had to repartition the drive, but if i did, i used the ubuntu installer every time
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> odatubuntu,  the rtcw:et whomepage will tell ya where it isntalkled to.. and jujst delete that directory
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> WMCoolmon,  Hmm. I just let thje ubuntu installer auto-partuion the drive. :P
[07:14] <[Chameleon] > How can I get encrypted DVD playback in breezy??
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> i also tend to use the normal linux fdisk. or boot some live cd that has qt_parted
[07:15] <odatubuntu> ?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> [Chameleon] ,  i think thats answered in the ubuntu wikis.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[07:15] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> odatubuntu,  find the dir it isntalled to and delete that dir
[07:16] <WMCoolmon> Dr_Willis: ds[de]  figured it out, actually...sounds like the problem is that cfdisk can't handle logical partitions that weren't partitioned in the order that they appear on the disk. mine certainly fit that description
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> WMCoolmon,  aha.. i rember that issue ages ago.. you got them numbered like 1,2,5,4,3 :P
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> WMCoolmon,  been there - done that.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:16] <[Chameleon] > !breezy-extras
[07:17] <ubotu> [Chameleon] : Syntax error in line 1
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> i find it much easier to just let the disrtos installers set up the hd's auto-magicially these days.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> [Chameleon] : not sure on this, but I would think the libdvdcss2 in hoary-extras should work on breezy
[07:18] <WMCoolmon> yeah, i would've done that except i wanted to run W2k and Ubuntu side-by-side
[07:18] <WMCoolmon> plus have some partitions for LFS and whatnot
[07:18] <thoreauputic> [Chameleon] : hopefully someone will correct me if that's wrong :)
[07:18] <Myrtti> yawn
[07:19] <linux-noob> bob2: is warcraft3 playable in linux, and other games???
[07:20] <bob2> linux-noob: depends if you've bought cedega or not
[07:20] <HrdwrBoB> linux-noob: yes
[07:20] <HrdwrBoB> linux-noob: you can play wc3 in wine, I think
[07:20] <linux-noob> what is cedega???
[07:20] <linux-noob> what is wine too???
[07:20] <shik45> winex
[07:20] <Myrtti> thanks.
[07:20] <shik45> wow ur a dumb noob
[07:21] <shik45> emulator for win32
[07:21] <thoreauputic> shik45: stop that pleasde
[07:21] <shik45> fine
[07:21] <bob2> shik45: please read the code of conduct
[07:21] <shik45> fine
[07:21] <shik45> but seriously
[07:21] <nalioth> shik45: yes, some tact would be nice
[07:21] <asdx> wine is an emulator?
[07:21] <bob2> people who use "ur" shouldn't be calling anyone a "dumb noob", anyway
[07:21] <linux-noob> shik45: that why asking here
[07:21] <thoreauputic> !tell shik45 about conduct
[07:21] <bob2> asdx: no, it's NOT an emulator
[07:21] <[Chameleon] > asdx: heh, no
[07:21] <linux-noob> coz this is my first time
[07:21] <bob2> asdx: it's a reimplementation of parts of windows, so you can run windows programs on linux
[07:22] <bob2> it's quite clever
[07:22] <candlelight> everyone starts from somewhere, np
[07:22] <nitinshantharam> any mailserver setup gurus here, im having the hardest time
[07:22] <shik45> ubuntu has a bad name because of users who dont know gnome from kde
[07:22] <[Chameleon] > WINE is more of a translator than an emulator.
[07:22] <shik45> same thing
[07:22] <[Chameleon] > shik45: why don't you just leave? it'll be easier that way.
[07:22] <shik45> synonyms
[07:22] <[Chameleon] > no, not at all
[07:22] <shik45> yes
[07:22] <asdx> is like a layer?
[07:22] <shik45> and wc3 works under wine
[07:22] <asdx> on top of unix/x11?
[07:23] <[Chameleon] > asdx: yes
[07:23] <shik45> my friend had it up under gentoo
[07:23] <asdx> k
[07:23] <[Chameleon] > asdx: rather than a completely virtualized environment, such as an emulator would be
[07:23] <shik45> and steam works under cedega/winex
[07:23] <asdx> does wine runs on something other than x86?
[07:23] <shik45> prob
[07:23] <bob2> nitinshantharam: best to just ask your question
[07:23] <asdx> like on ppc
[07:23] <Razor-X> is there a sed option to make it delete the line of a match?
[07:23] <bob2> asdx: no
[07:24] <linux-noob> bob2: can i find the cedega and winex at eh ubuntulinux.org site????
[07:24] <asdx> k
[07:24] <[Chameleon] > asdx: it might be technically possible, but I don't believe they build to that arch.
[07:24] <nitinshantharam> bob2: well i dont know how to setup a virtual mail server, and ive looked at tutorials, i need some help
[07:24] <bob2> asdx: wine doesn't emulate things; the windows program runs on the CPU normally, but the calls it makes to windows functions get handled by wine
[07:24] <[Chameleon] > asdx: IIRC, NT 4 ran on PPC.
[07:24] <giggsey_> When I install firefox via apt-get it gives E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:24] <asdx> ok
[07:24] <bob2> nitinshantharam: google: "postfix mysql kirby"
[07:24] <bob2> linux-noob: no, they cost money
[07:24] <nitinshantharam> bob2 ok thanks let me look
[07:24] <bob2> giggsey_: that's not the full error, paste the entire thing to #flood
[07:24] <JairunCaloth> where is the xserver log file?
[07:24] <giggsey_> kk
[07:25] <[Chameleon] > or maybe that was Alpha, not PPC that NT 4 also ran on......
[07:25] <shik45> u can get source
[07:25] <bob2> JairunCaloth: /var/log
[07:25] <shik45> on website asdx
[07:25] <bob2> [Chameleon] : it ran on both, and mips
[07:25] <shik45> winehq.com
[07:25] <[Chameleon] > bob2: yeah... that's right
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> ive never had much lucjk with wine or cedega playing games. :(
[07:25] <shik45> u know how to compile from source asdx ?
[07:26] <giggsey_> bob2: posted in #flood
[07:26] <shik45> it worked fine on my gentoo
[07:26] <asdx> shik45: wine?
[07:26] <shik45> yes
[07:26] <asdx> shik45: yes
[07:26] <bob2> giggsey_: looks like you installed extensions as root
[07:26] <shik45> either is good
[07:26] <shik45> i run all sorts a shit using winex and wine
[07:27] <shik45> it is great
[07:27] <giggsey_> bob2 -> I've installed no extensions yet
[07:27] <shik45> i have vmware 2 for developing livecd
[07:27] <asdx> shinu: u just grab the wine-2005xxxx.tar.bz2 - tar -xvjf wine-2005xxxx.tar.bz2 - cd wine-2005xxxx/ - ./configure - make - make install and u're done I guess
[07:27] <asdx> shik45: then u have to configure some stuff in ~/.wine
[07:27] <shik45> i didn't
[07:27] <shik45> but u might have 2
[07:27] <shik45> i used portage my friend
[07:28] <shik45> for everyhting
[07:28] <asdx> ok
[07:28] <shik45> winex isn't on there anymore tho'
[07:28] <thoreauputic> shik45: this is #ubuntu , in case you didn't notice
[07:28] <shik45> i was helping the guy out
[07:28] <shik45> i support the project
[07:28] <shik45> i have 5 ubuntu boxes in my hosue
[07:28] <SuperQ> heh
[07:28] <shik45> i have my dad on it 2
[07:28] <bob2> come on folks
[07:28] <bob2> let's stay on-topic
[07:28] <shik45> dont be petty
[07:29] <shik45> this is support
[07:29] <bob2> shik45: done?
[07:29] <asdx> why staying on topic?
[07:29] <asdx> I mean
[07:29] <shik45> yes
[07:29] <bob2> good, thanks
[07:29] <bob2> asdx: because otherwsie this will degenerate into a stupid argument
[07:29] <bob2> more so than it has already
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !topic
[07:29] <shik45> u need more help asdx
[07:29] <smott> freenode is slowly but very surely turning to shit ...
[07:29] <smott> kind of like usenet
[07:29] <shad0w1e> how do I determine a directory size from the console???
[07:29] <Razor-X> hmmm, how do you do increments in BASH or ZSH scripting?
[07:29] <asdx> shik45: i need more help?
[07:29] <asdx> shik45: what kind of help?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> shad0w1e,  'df' is what i normally use i think
[07:29] <asdx> shik45: why do i need help?
[07:29] <giggsey_> nvm, it apears that I can now download extentsions
[07:29] <shad0w1e> df tells you the size of the disk
[07:29] <shik45> i was asking if u did
[07:29] <shad0w1e> how about directory?
[07:30] <bimberi> shad0w1e: du -sh /path/to/dir
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> du perhaps :P
[07:30] <shik45> if ur smart u shall be fine
[07:30] <shad0w1e> oh nice!
[07:30] <bob2> shad0w1e: du -sh blah
[07:30] <shad0w1e> thanks !
[07:30] <linux-noob> bob2: i have a question regarding the partition disk in the installation..asking me about the mount option...what do you think is the best option for me as a stater of linux????
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas get them backwwards
[07:30] <shik45> u seem 2 know enough
[07:30] <asdx> shik45: if i did what?
[07:30] <shik45> nvmd
[07:30] <bob2> linux-noob: then leave the defaults
[07:30] <shik45> go ahead and try cedega or wine
[07:30] <shik45> i suggest cedega if u can get it warez
[07:30] <linux-noob> the default is ro - mount the file system read-only???
[07:31] <shad0w1e> aight thanks its working great!!!
[07:31] <asdx> k
[07:31] <thoreauputic> shik45: wareZ are totally off-topic
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> warez? oh plz.. for the cost of lunch money you can get  legally
[07:31] <shad0w1e> how do i tell how many people are logged into the box?
[07:31] <bob2> linux-noob: no, that's not the default
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> or ya could break down and use the cvs versions.
[07:31] <bob2> shad0w1e: depends how you define how many
[07:31] <bob2> shad0w1e: "w" would be a useful tool
[07:32] <shik45> i was telling him how 2 get winex
[07:32] <shik45> wine is gpl
[07:32] <shik45> so u can get it easily
[07:32] <shad0w1e> w works great, thanks again!
[07:33] <linux-noob> bob2: huh??? so what is it then?? the choices are as follows: ro - mount the file system read-only; sync - all input/output activities occur synchronously; quite - changing owner and permission does not return errors?????
[07:33] <bob2> linux-noob: leave them all blank
[07:33] <linux-noob> ok
[07:35] <vern401> what do I need to do to solve Error Failed to run services-admin as user root
[07:35] <rendi> # chmod 777 d
[07:35] <rendi> chmod: changing permissions of `d': Read-only file system
[07:35] <rendi> can help me
[07:36] <shad0w1e> how can I tell from the "ls" command if something is a symbolic link?
[07:36] <crimsun> rendi: presuming you know that 777 is dangerous [foolish] , what fs is that on?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> shad0w1e: use ls -l
[07:36] <danl> how do you set the suid bit for a file?
[07:36] <shad0w1e> thoreauputic I was using it
[07:36] <rendi> fat32
[07:36] <rendi> is windows partition
[07:36] <thoreauputic> shad0w1e: if it's a link it will have a n arrow
[07:37] <shad0w1e> oh yeah
[07:37] <shad0w1e> but it doesnt
[07:37] <crimsun> shad0w1e: the leftmost output will be 'l'
[07:37] <shad0w1e> on my other system it does
[07:37] <linux-noob> bob2: i have already formatted the partition, now i would like to ask what is the best mount point for me???? /dos; /windows or do not mount it???
[07:37] <shad0w1e> this is an old 2.4 kernel system
[07:37] <bob2> rendi: you can't change permissions on a windows partition
[07:37] <bob2> linux-noob: stop using so many question marks, it's really really annoying
[07:38] <bob2> linux-noob: have you made / yet?
[07:38] <rendi> i'm del my windows last night
[07:38] <linux-noob> oh im sorry?
[07:38] <linux-noob> not yet?
[07:38] <rendi> only ubuntu i have on my pc
[07:38] <linux-noob> not yet
[07:38] <bob2> then tell it to be /
[07:38] <crimsun> danl: what are the perms on it now?
[07:39] <rendi> can help ?
[07:39] <linux-noob> so only / ? no more?
[07:39] <bob2> linux-noob: yes
[07:39] <bob2> rendi: what are you trying to do?
[07:39] <danl> 755
[07:40] <bob2> and why is it so hard to get peopel to explain their goal, instead of their confused attempted solution?
[07:40] <crimsun> danl: chmod 4755 foo
[07:40] <Razor-X> bob2: do you know how to use a shell variable in sed?
[07:40] <linux-noob> ok thanks. how about the bootable flag? what is it?
[07:40] <danl> hmmm....
[07:40] <rendi> bob2 i wanna save my doc in that partition
[07:41] <danl> didn't seem to work, trying to get it so my none root user can execute shfsmount as root
[07:41] <shik45> is there kubuntu channel
[07:41] <Razor-X> shik45: yeah
[07:41] <bob2> rendi: then you mounted it wrong
[07:41] <thoreauputic> shik45: yes
[07:41] <bob2> Razor-X: same as you do in any other shell thing: $blah
[07:42] <Razor-X> bob2: but in sed, doesen't sed search for string $blah?
[07:42] <crimsun> danl: huh? just use sudo
[07:42] <crimsun> danl: toying with suid is at best dangerous if you're not familiar with the intended security design
[07:42] <danl> yea... thats what i did... just didn't want to have to type the password each time
[07:43] <crimsun> danl: the passwd is cached per tty
[07:43] <linux-noob> bob2: what is the meaning of bootable flag? what does it do?
[07:43] <danl> i will only be doing it once per login
[07:43] <rendi> bob2 here my fstab
[07:43] <rendi> /dev/hda5       /media/d  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[07:43] <danl> i just got done setting up ssh keys so i don't have to type my ssh password for the server... but it doesn't work on shfs... i think ima give it a rest tonight
[07:44] <Razor-X> bob2: yeah, I guess it matches the literal '$test' and not the value of $test, which is what I want
[07:44] <bob2> Razor-X: your shell does the substitution before sed runs
[07:44] <Razor-X> well, here's my syntax
[07:44] <crimsun> danl: then my suggestion is to configure sudoers to allow just that utility to be run NOPASSWD
[07:44] <bob2> linux-noob: it tells your bios the partition can be booted
[07:44] <crimsun> danl: for your user only, of course
[07:44] <linux-noob> bob2: ok thanks again
[07:44] <Octane> even though i successfully installed the latest nvidia drivers (over the nvidia kernel module packages), X.org.log says that it failed to intialize the nvidia kernel module with the error "no screens found"
[07:44] <Razor-X> cat --number blah | sed 's/^ *//g' | sed -n 's/$test[^0-90//p'
[07:44] <Razor-X> err
[07:44] <Razor-X> cat --number blah | sed 's/^ *//g' | sed -n 's/$test[^0-90] //p'
[07:45] <Razor-X> where $test == 4
[07:45] <Razor-X> should I remove the 's ?
[07:45] <danl> ok... will google that :-) thanks. any way to make su not prompt for password for said user?
[07:45] <danl> ignoring the major security hole that would make
[07:45] <absenth> is anyone here semi familiar with using Ubuntu as the base for a dedicated snort IDS box?
[07:46] <crimsun> danl: erm, not su. That's why sudoers is relevant here.
[07:46] <bob2> Octane: then load it
[07:46] <Octane> bob2: i load it in modules
[07:46] <Octane> 'nvidia'
[07:47] <bob2> Razor-X: remember that your shell handles quoting and variable substitution
[07:47] <bob2> Octane: er, so look at dmesg and see what happened
[07:47] <bob2> then modprobe it manually
[07:47] <Razor-X> bob2: I'm remembering, but my result isn't what it should be
[07:47] <Octane> "module license taints kernel" is the only nvidia-related msg
[07:47] <Razor-X> bob2: if I substitute `4' for `$test' sed matches the line I want
[07:48] <bob2> Razor-X: " instead of '
[07:48] <chavo> If I boot into runlevel 5, I only have 1 getty running. Anyone know how to fi?
[07:48] <chavo> fix that is
[07:48] <Razor-X> bob2: lemme see
[07:49] <danl> thanks crimsun, that was easy enough
[07:49] <Razor-X> bob2: I get a broken pipe statement
[07:50] <Razor-X> bob2: err, hold on a sec
[07:50] <Razor-X> ahhh, I see, it's something BASH specific
[07:51] <linux-noob> bob2: i have encountered base system installation error.
[07:52] <thoreauputic> chavo: ubuntu doesn't normally use runlevel 5 - have you configured it that way?
[07:52] <linux-noob> bob2: it says that the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[07:52] <chavo> I just did it temorarily
[07:52] <chavo> temporarily
[07:52] <thoreauputic> chavo: X is runlevel 2 by default
[07:52] <thoreauputic> ah
[07:52] <chavo> yes I know that
[07:52] <thoreauputic> OK'
[07:53] <bob2> linux-noob: perhaps the cd didn't burn correctly
[07:53] <chavo> When I do init 2 it runs the other gettys
[07:53] <Octane> how can i troubleshoot this nvidia driver not working? im using the latest version from nvidia's site. i also have the nvidia kernel modules installed. i have modprobe'd 'nvidia'
[07:53] <thoreauputic> chavo: something in /etc/inittab then I would think
[07:53] <linux-noob> ok
[07:53] <Knelix> Just ordered my new PC system for Ubunto!
[07:54] <chavo> Yeah that's what I thought, but it works on a clean install of breezy, doesn't work on an upgrade.
[07:54] <bob2> Octane: and you read dmesg?
[07:54] <chavo> and inittab is the same.
[07:54] <chavo> no big deal, just wondering if someone knew a fix
[07:54] <gpm> hi guys. i have a problem sometimes with cdrecord and i have to use an older version (on debian, thinking of switching to ubuntu)...if cdrecord doesn't work automagically, can i downgrade cdrecord?
[07:54] <Octane> bob2: ya i grep'd nvidia and found nothing but "module licenst nvidia taints kernel"
[07:55] <thoreauputic> chavo: looks like all ttys are not activated in r/l 5 on my box
[07:55] <bob2> gpm: file a bug
[07:55] <linux-noob> bob2: what is this error? system~1_resto~1rp126change~1.1 is 1k, but it has 4 clusters (16k) error! then the options ignore and cancel
[07:56] <thoreauputic> chavo: look at thelines below 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 in /etc/inittab
[07:56] <bob2> linux-noob: an error is useless if you don't give us context
[07:56] <chavo> thoreauputic, yes
[07:56] <chavo> I see, I get it now
[07:56] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:56] <chavo> thanks
[07:56] <linux-noob> bob2: the error occurs after i have done with the partition and ready to install the linux
[07:57] <Knelix> Specs:
[07:57] <thoreauputic> chavo: np :)
[07:57] <antix> hm I just got 60Mb of new packages through the Software Updates program.. some major update?
[07:57] <Knelix> Foxconn TLM454R3M6-C350 Barebones (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856119002)
[07:57] <Knelix> AMD Sempron 2400+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache
[07:57] <Knelix> TOSHIBA Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive
[07:57] <Knelix> GeIL Value 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200)
[07:57] <bob2> linux-noob: sounds like disk corruption
[07:57] <bob2> Knelix: please don't paste in here
[07:57] <bob2> antix: on breezy?
[07:57] <antix> bob2, no hoary
[07:57] <linux-noob> bob2: ok thanks again
[07:57] <gpm> bob2: done...it's been open for over a year.
[07:58] <bob2> gpm: cool
[07:58] <benplaut> in Soviet Russia, Breezy breaks you!
[07:58] <Octane> any ideas bobbbb
[07:58] <Octane> bob is my onl yglimmer of hope
[07:59] <dazvid> benplaut:  lol @ family guy reference :P
[07:59] <benplaut> nope... Yakkof Smirnoff... or something
[07:59] <dazvid> It was on family guy, when they got the GPS system :O
[07:59] <benplaut> and origionally from some other russian guy
[08:00] <dazvid> ah fair enough
[08:00] <bob2> I'm sorry, I care little for binary drivers
[08:00] <benplaut> ahh found it
[08:00] <bob2> it sounds like nvidia screwed it up
[08:00] <benplaut> Yakov Smirnoff
[08:00] <benplaut>   :P
[08:00] <bob2> file a bug and hope someone fixes it
[08:04] <blake> any ubuntu users here own an ipod?
[08:05] <benplaut> blake: several
[08:05] <Myrtti> I need more coffee
[08:05] <benplaut> but not me
[08:05] <benplaut> Myrtti, spoken like a true ubunut :P
[08:07] <arkais> someone have gnome 2.12?
[08:07] <benplaut> yah
[08:07] <benplaut> i do
[08:07] <mike_douglas> in Evince 0.4, is anyone else's "jobs" tab of the print dialog completely blank?
[08:08] <nalioth> wtf
[08:09] <dazvid> lol ;/
[08:09] <asdx> freenode sucks
[08:10] <omp> netsplits :/
[08:10] <benplaut> asdx, no, it doesn't :P
[08:11] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! That netsplit was for some scheduled maintenence so that one of our regular rotation servers can get some more ram. roughly about 700 users effected since the box is out of rotation
[08:11] <Cryptid> Can i install .rpm files on ubuntu
[08:11] <Cryptid> ?
[08:11] <deFrysk> Cryptid, berrer not
[08:11] <asdx> benplaut: it does quite a bit
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> you can convert them to installable packages with 'alien'
[08:11] <deFrysk> better*
[08:11] <mike_douglas> Cryptid: sudo alien -d <rpm file>
[08:11] <benplaut> asdx: better then nuthin :P
[08:11] <deFrysk> Cryptid, what package ?
[08:12] <asdx> lol
[08:12] <cevizoglu> wow, this vnc client is incrediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiibly slow
[08:12] <cevizoglu> sorry
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> cevizoglu,  try the 'tightvnc' or 'vnc4' variants then.. reduce the # of colors also helps a lot
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> or for linux to linux - freenx can work better i hear.
[08:13] <Cryptid> Ya i converted the .rpm file to .deb but when i try to install it using dpkg it says that the database has been locked and may be in use by another applicatoin
[08:14] <benplaut> Cryptid, is synatpic of update manager open?
[08:14] <benplaut> *or
[08:14] <deFrysk> Cryptid, what package and use sudo and shut down synaptic
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> :) and its proberly right.
[08:14] <Cryptid> oh yes synaptec is open
[08:14] <Cryptid> i guess thats the problem
[08:14] <deFrysk> Cryptid, if its java wont work
[08:14] <Cryptid> thax guys
[08:15] <deFrysk> if its realplayer , unlikely to work
[08:15] <Cryptid> deFrysk well i was trying to install amule
[08:15] <deFrysk> dunno bout amule
[08:15] <linux-noob> i have a harddisk with an existing partition and bad sectors on it. question is: will linux have a way of blocking this bad sectors for me to install the linux with ease after i have repartitioned it using linux?
[08:15] <deFrysk> Cryptid, but good luck
[08:15] <Cryptid> deFrysk does that mean i cant install Azureus
[08:16] <nalioth> Cryptid: use bittornado
[08:16] <Cryptid> coz Azureus is based on Java
[08:16] <Madpilot> Cryptid: amule is in Ubuntu repos - no need for rpms
[08:16] <Madpilot> !java
[08:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:16] <nalioth> Cryptid: i use console bittornado + "gnu screen"
[08:16] <deFrysk> Cryptid, azureus is easy to install locally just unpack the package
[08:16] <Cryptid> ok
[08:16] <deFrysk> and it will work
[08:16] <linux-noob> help me pls!
[08:17] <linux-noob> i have a harddisk with an existing partition and bad sectors on it. question is: will linux have a way of blocking this bad sectors for me to install the linux with ease after i have repartitioned it using linux?
[08:17] <danl> later amigos
[08:17] <deFrysk> linux-noob, to me a hd with bad sectors is something to be binned
[08:17] <Cryptid> deFrysk well i tried to install Azureus from synaptec but it also had to download java and then after half the download it says failed to retreive file from server
[08:17] <Proclivity> is there hope for my Audigy2 on Ubuntu ?
[08:17] <Madpilot> !tell Cryptid about java
[08:17] <deFrysk> Cryptid, got java installed from backports ?
[08:17] <dazvid> Yes Proclivity
[08:18] <dazvid> I use audigy2, and am listening to music right nown
[08:18] <dazvid> now*
[08:18] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: is it worth the hassle ? The hdd is one the way out anyway, is it not?
[08:18] <thoreauputic> *on
[08:18] <Proclivity> how please dazvid... what am I missing on the install
[08:18] <dazvid> Proclivity: have you downloaded the "alsa" drivers?
[08:18] <cevizoglu> Dr_Willis, thx, I will try vnc4
[08:18] <ksmurf> gnight all
[08:19] <Cryptid> deFrysk what is backports?
[08:19] <linux-noob> but windows xp is running on it? then why i cant install linux then?
[08:19] <Proclivity> I will check when I boot back... on XP now
[08:19] <dazvid> oh ok
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> cevizoglu,  theres may be more vairants out. :P  seems a new one comes out every month
[08:19] <Proclivity> after I have that then what?
[08:19] <dazvid> Well when you get those drivers, go into a console and type "alsamixer" and there will be an option that is defaulted to MUTE. So you need to highlight it and press 'm' to unmute
[08:20] <deFrysk> !backports
[08:20] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:20] <dazvid> for memory the option was digital/analog something or other
[08:20] <Proclivity> right... I've been there ok
[08:20] <deFrysk> criptid you do not have read the wiki pages ?
[08:20] <Cryptid> oh is blackport a repos?huh?
[08:21] <dazvid> Proclivity: the exact option is "Audigy Analog/Digital output jack"
[08:21] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:21] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:21] <dazvid> find that one and press m
[08:21] <deFrysk> Cryptid, read this all and apply if possible https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:21] <Madpilot> Cryptid: see the bottom of the AddingRepos URL in ubotu's post above ^^^
[08:21] <Cryptid> ok i will
[08:21] <deFrysk> Cryptid, many of your questions wil be answered there
[08:22] <Proclivity> great!
[08:22] <Proclivity> thx dazvid... I'll try it
[08:22] <Proclivity> later
[08:23] <Cryptid> Is there a QBasic compiler for linux
[08:23] <arkais> how can i install gnome2.12? i try an update but doesnt work
[08:23] <moleman> question
[08:23] <moleman> how do I install kopete?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> arkais: it's in Breezy - you would upgrade to breezy for that
[08:24] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[08:24] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:24] <Madpilot> moleman: kopete's in the repos
[08:24] <moleman> hmm?
[08:25] <Madpilot> Kopete is in the main repos - just search for it in Synaptic
[08:25] <Cryptid> i have herd that there are few viruses for linux so where can i get a good antivirus software for ubuntu
[08:26] <bob2> Cryptid: don't bother
[08:26] <Cryptid> bob2 y not?
[08:26] <bob2> Cryptid: unless you run software you get from untrusted people, you have nothing to worry about
[08:26] <tga> Cryptid, most antivirus software for linux will help combat windows viruses
[08:26] <arkais> thoreauputic, and how works breezy now?
[08:26] <Cryptid> tga do windows viruses infect ubuntu
[08:27] <deFrysk> Cryptid, virusses are colectables on linux , not executables
[08:27] <thoreauputic> arkais: I'm not running it yet - it's still at the preview stage: others may know more
[08:27] <tga> Cryptid, no, but for example you could run a mail server on ubuntu.. then you'd want to scan messages passing through to unsuspecting windows users
[08:27] <Madpilot> deFrysk: to you have a complete set? ;)
[08:27] <arkais> ok
[08:27] <Madpilot> *do
[08:27] <arkais> thx thoreauputic
[08:27] <thoreauputic> np :)
[08:27] <deFrysk> Madpilot, nah , threw them out ,
[08:28] <Cryptid> tga so which antivirus u think i should use
[08:28] <tga> Cryptid, none really
[08:28] <aftertaf> "deFrysk Cryptid, virusses are colectables on linux , not executables"     Lol :)
[08:28] <Madpilot> Cryptid: are you going to be running a mailserver and a network that includes Windows machines?
[08:28] <ksmurf> anyone know why I can't burn cd's with gnomebaker?
[08:28] <Cryptid> Madpilot, NO
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: then you have nothing to worry about
[08:29] <aftertaf> :)
[08:29] <Madpilot> Cryptid: then no need to worry about AV, that's what ppl have been saying...
[08:29] <aftertaf> god morning all, btw ;)
[08:29] <ksmurf> gd aftertaf
[08:29] <Cryptid> by mistake if i execute a windows .exe file which is a Virus and it runs using Wine will it harm my Com
[08:30] <ksmurf> crypitic yes and no
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: that won't happen unless you tell it to :)
[08:30] <ksmurf> what should the permissions be for my dvd writer?
[08:30] <Cryptid> ya but what if a person is curious about the file and runs it, will his com get screwed?
[08:30] <Quinthius> ksmurf: are you in breezy?
[08:31] <ksmurf> Quin Yes
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: no
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: linux isolates system files from user files anyway
[08:31] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i am happy to hear that
[08:31] <Quinthius> ksmurf: i think some recent updates broke some dev permissions
[08:32] <linux-noob> thoreauputic: can i use fat32 file system to install linux?
[08:32] <Quinthius> ksmurf: try chmod 660 /dev/<your cd writer>
[08:32] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: so basically you can *laugh* at viruses :)
[08:32] <ksmurf> yes it did quin ... thats why I'm wondering about what they should be.
[08:32] <Quinthius> ksmurf: i just looked in /dev and permissions look fine to me, so maybe the most recent updates that i just got just fixed it
[08:32] <andy_> hey all, i was just wondering if somebody could quickly recommend me a good MP3 player (one similar to winamp or the equivilent perhaps) for ubuntu
[08:32] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: it's possible, but fat32 is an awful fs
[08:32] <andy_> please
[08:33] <cal_poly_dude> i have a question about sound, it doesnt work, but ium going to install kde instead of gnome, should i fix my sound before or after the install?
[08:33] <Quinthius> ksmurf: 660 i believe
[08:33] <dazvid> andy_: beep media player is rather nice looking, and does a good job
[08:33] <abarbaccia> hey all - what package contains the plugins for totem
[08:33] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: use ext3 (tha's the default)
[08:33] <ksmurf> 660 K thanks ...
[08:33] <linux-noob> so ext3 is the best fs for linux then?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> *that's
[08:33] <linux-noob> ok thx
[08:33] <andy_> dazvid, any chance you could link me please?
[08:33] <Quinthius> abarbaccia: gstreamer0.8-plugins?
[08:33] <dazvid> its in the repos' :)
[08:33] <dazvid> just search it through synaptic
[08:33] <ksmurf> mine are all 755
[08:33] <Cryptid> i know this guy, he is a romanian and he writes viruses for linux he goes by the handle of cyneox i read that there are these ELF files which can autorun and infect the system is it true
[08:33] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: not *best* necessarily - but that stuff is the subject of much debate :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> !mp3
[08:34] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:34] <andy_> dazvid, the repos
[08:34] <andy_> ?
[08:34] <Quinthius> ksmurf: funky... why would a device need exec perms
[08:34] <dazvid> !tell andy_ about repos
[08:34] <Madpilot> Cryptid: got a link?
[08:34] <ksmurf> I have no idea....
[08:34] <linux-noob> ok thanks for the help thoreauputic
[08:34] <dazvid> Read the wiki link on it :)
[08:34] <abarbaccia> hey all - i just wanted to comment- breezy is MUCH faster than hoary
[08:34] <Cryptid> Madpilot, i sec let me serach for his page
[08:35] <dazvid> abarbaccia: in what ways?
[08:35] <abarbaccia> everything - synaptic - boot - menu navigation
[08:35] <Quinthius> ksmurf: try grabbing the recent updates and see if it fixes them (after rebooting, since udev will need to re initialize)
[08:35] <dazvid> nice! :)
[08:35] <ksmurf> I'm up to date
[08:35] <ksmurf> should root be owner or me?
[08:36] <Quinthius> ksmurf: hmm, maybe some program is screwing up perms..
[08:36] <Quinthius> ksmurf: which device are we talking about? /dev/hdc or something?
[08:36] <Cryptid> Madpilot, check out his page http://cyneox.xhost.ro
[08:36] <ksmurf> /dev/hdd My dvd writer
[08:36] <Quinthius> ksmurf: ok, i use hdc, but perms should be the same. mine is owned by root, group cdrom, perms 660
[08:36] <johnnybe1ak> hey guys
[08:37] <linuxboyx6x> hello there i got winmac_fstab to display the disk that have a FAT32 file system
[08:37] <linuxboyx6x> but it only shown the 1st part of the disk
[08:37] <linuxboyx6x> the disk is partition into 20 20 G
[08:38] <linuxboyx6x> it displayed only 20
[08:38] <linuxboyx6x> how can i view the other?
[08:38] <ksmurf> that was funky... now they are all 660
[08:38] <Quinthius> ksmurf: haha wtf
[08:38] <Quinthius> ksmurf: err did you change them all manually? or did they all change from just one device?
[08:38] <andy_> dazvid, thanks... could u also help with finding a good MSN Messenger client besides GAIM??
[08:39] <ksmurf> I didn't change any of them
[08:39] <linuxboyx6x> can anyone help me?
[08:39] <ksmurf> lol
[08:39] <bezak> amsn ?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> andy_: some people like amsn
[08:39] <ksmurf> what your fstab line?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> hmm. I dont think there exists a 'good'  MS*anything* :P
[08:39] <shad0w1e> frontpage is decent
[08:39] <andy_> ??
[08:40] <Quinthius> ksmurf: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[08:40] <mike_douglas> has anyone successfully printed to a index card on Linux? I've set up the options for it to recognize the paper as 3x5, but it still prints a justified version of the pdf as if it was set to US Letter.
[08:40] <Madpilot> shad0w1e: Frontpage the producer of crappy HTML code? yuck...
[08:40] <andy_> thoreauputic, is it any good? have you tried it?
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> shad0w1e,  hmm.. isent that what they have forced on my install of xp that i cant uninstall? :P
[08:40] <Cryptid> Madpilot, so the viruses that guy worte are really  harmfull
[08:40] <thoreauputic> andy_: I don't use msn, so no
[08:40] <andy_> hmm okay ill look into it
[08:40] <shad0w1e> Dr_Willis , no, it doesn't come with Windows. Just the folder does
[08:40] <andy_> thanks :)
[08:40] <aftertaf> andy_:  kopete seems ok...
[08:41] <Madpilot> Cryptid: yeah, but they're not going to be in repository software, or stuff from major companies, so why worry about it?
[08:41] <aftertaf> you don't have 'wizz' functionality, but the world can get by without it think
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> shad0w1e,  ahh. a "This folder is CRITICAL to the working of windows and can not be deleted" - Even tho its EMPTY :P
[08:41] <dazvid> andy_: I use gaim :P  only thing I dont like about it, is that it doesnt support Webcam :(
[08:41] <Cryptid> Madpilot, does linux have internet worms
[08:42] <Cryptid> like the ones windows has
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: you really *are* paranoid, aren't you ? *grin*
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure if any of the yahoo/msn/whatever clones have web cam supports.
[08:42] <Cryptid> i.e zotob blaster sasser
[08:42] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  i think that most of the 'worms' exploit security holes in windows/IE/
[08:42] <ksmurf> that's strange when I check my places it says the permisions are 444
[08:42] <aftertaf> they attack RPC
[08:42] <nalioth> the latest breezy update has eaten my bootloader
[08:42] <linuxboyx6x> hello there i got winmac_fstab to display the disk that have a FAT32 file system
[08:42] <linuxboyx6x> linuxboyx6x but it only shown the 1st part of the disk
[08:42] <linuxboyx6x> linuxboyx6x the disk is partition into 20 20 G
[08:42] <linuxboyx6x> linuxboyx6x it displayed only 20
[08:42] <nalioth> will the PPC wonders never cease?
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking theres some unofficial version of gaim that has some web cam support.
[08:42] <linuxboyx6x> pls help
[08:42] <aftertaf> loool nalioth :/
[08:42] <dazvid> Dr_Willis: where did you see/read that?
[08:43] <aftertaf> Dr_Willis:  kopete in KDE 3.5 will aim for webcam support
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> dazvid,  i think ive seen it mentioned in here.  but i cant rember the name
[08:43] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, ya i may be paraniod :-p
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Dr_Willis: gaim vv or something like that, I think
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> of course one needs a web cam that Linux supports. :P and tjhose can be hard to track down.
[08:43] <dazvid> kopete eh, aftertaf does that also support all the other messenger programs?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: heh
[08:43] <Skif> anybody else running mythtv on breezy?
[08:43] <ksmurf> Quin You still here?
[08:43] <Quinthius> ksmurf: mine says that too. not sure if that matters... that might just be the permissions for that link thats used in places
[08:44] <ksmurf> my floppy is 755
[08:44] <aftertaf> The cvs version of aMSN now has webcam support which seems to work :)
[08:44] <Skif> mythfilldatabase, even
[08:44] <ksmurf> well doesn't matter I got the cd out
[08:44] <aftertaf> from http://www.yoper.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=6978
[08:44] <Quinthius> ksmurf: wait, what are you using to view permissions... places? or ls -l /dev/hdd?
[08:44] <ksmurf> both
[08:45] <Quinthius> ksmurf: well the permissions in places i don't think are the permissions for the actual device
[08:45] <aftertaf> dazvid:  kopete supports diferent protocols, ICQ, MSN, yaho AIM...
[08:45] <dazvid> ok will check it out
[08:45] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: does IRC as well (like gaim)
[08:45] <ksmurf> no it must just be for the link
[08:45] <aftertaf> Dr_Willis:  http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[08:45] <Quinthius> ksmurf: i think those are just symlinks or special config files used by gnome
[08:45] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  yep... thx :)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> aftertaf,  now i can Porn chat! :p
[08:46] <ksmurf> I caught that bug about group cdrom........
[08:46] <ksmurf> the hard way
[08:46] <aftertaf> :D Dr_Willis .... or is it Dr_Lecter ???
[08:46] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: we didn't need to know that... ;)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Of_Love
[08:46] <ksmurf> Quin Thanks for the help
[08:46] <Cryptid> aftertaf, "kopete supports diferent protocols, ICQ, MSN, yaho AIM..." so does Gaim
[08:46] <Quinthius> ksmurf: what bug?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> of course I dont have a webcam that has linux support... *sigh*
[08:46] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  and it will have webcam support soon...
[08:46] <ksmurf> my group was not set to cdrom but someother funky thing
[08:46] <aftertaf> i'm not starting a IM war
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> best webcam i got is the one from the Playhstation2 EyeToy cam. :P
[08:47] <Quinthius> ksmurf: plugdev?
[08:47] <ksmurf> yes
[08:48] <ksmurf> have to pardon my terms.  I'm still semi new
[08:48] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: just don't menetion editors OK ? *g*
[08:48] <Quinthius> ksmurf: yeah that was what i saw mentioned in some thread
[08:48] <ksmurf> Bugzilla
[08:48] <ksmurf> ??
[08:48] <Quinthius> ksmurf: nah, forums
[08:49] <SuperQ> anyone with an amd64 05.10 try installing mplayer-amd64 yet?
[08:49] <Quinthius> ksmurf: mine is cdrom and i havent touched it, so i guess recent update fixed it, it it's being set to plugdev by some app i dont have installed
[08:49] <ksmurf> I really should be there more often.  I only posted a response once about serial wacom pads
[08:49] <Quinthius> it=or*
[08:49] <linux-noob> anybody: what is the meaning of repositories?
[08:49] <ksmurf> mbe
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> 'places of storage'
[08:50] <Madpilot> !repositories
[08:50] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:50] <highvoltage> linux-noob: places where you store installation packages for programs
[08:50] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: places where the software packages are stored on the net
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> aka ' bank' 'library' 'vault'
[08:50] <Quinthius> Dr_Willis: or "snack drawer"
[08:50] <linux-noob> ok thx...your really a great help
[08:50] <ksmurf> Thanks Quin...... I better get some sleep.  4 hour drive in at 5 am (4hours)
[08:50] <ksmurf> hey ya yong
[08:50] <Quinthius> ksmurf: hehe night and have fun :P
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> Quinthius,  'Sock Drawer' :P
[08:51] <funkyHat|asleep> Quinthius, or 'pile' or 'bunch' :P
[08:51] <aftertaf> !start an editor war
[08:51] <ubotu> notepad is better than emacs
[08:51] <thoreauputic> linux-noob: synaptic/apt keeps a list that you update/ reload
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> thats where the good stuff is at.
[08:51] <andy_> hey guys sorry, excuse my ignorance (im new to ubuntu/linux) .. im trying to figure out how to install AMSN so far i have 4 files: amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin, control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary
[08:51] <Quinthius> Dr_Willis: hah :P
[08:51] <andy_> can anybody help me install this please?
[08:51] <robotgeek> !info amsn
[08:51] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[08:51] <yong> Hi,all
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> andy_,  try 'sudo apt-get install amsn' m?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> andy_: if you don't have the universe repo, add it
[08:52] <andy_> Dr_Willis, thanks trying it now
[08:52] <yong> hey ya ksmuf
[08:52] <nalioth> andy_: while you're at it, add multiverse, too
[08:53] <andy_> okay ill look for them in synaptic package manager
[08:53] <aftertaf> where does kpilot stick the things i hotsnych???
[08:53] <a-l-p-h-a> how do I restart my firewall, to incorperate new rules?
[08:53] <Cryptid> are there any more repositories where i can get lots of software i mean the unofficial softwares
[08:53] <andy_> nalioth, Binary or source?
[08:54] <andy_> thoreauputic, binary or source?
[08:54] <yong> Anybody carry out the issue of restarting on the laptop?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> andy_: I add both
[08:54] <andy_> ok cool
[08:54] <thoreauputic> andy_: source can be useful
[08:54] <nalioth> andy_: it's easy: anywhere you see "universe" space once and add "multiverse"
[08:54] <robotgeek> yong: ?? what is the problem?
[08:55] <yong> my laptop cannot be restarted, only can be sutdown
[08:55] <Madpilot> Cryptid: there's something like 16,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos already... isn't that lots of software? ;)
[08:55] <yong> Toshiba te2000
[08:55] <andy_> okay im a little confusd now.. i've selected the repo's and i press ok.. it loads some files but nothing happens what do i do after?
[08:55] <andy_> do i have to select and install these files in synaptic package manager?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> andy_: hit reload
[08:56] <nalioth> andy_: hit the "reload" button on the top left
[08:56] <andy_> it says downloading files
[08:56] <robotgeek> yong: a "sudo reboot" in a terminal doesn't work?
[08:56] <andy_> ok.. it finished
[08:56] <andy_> now what?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> andy_: yup it is updating your repos
[08:56] <nalioth> andy_: now you spend time looking at all your new toys
[08:56] <yong> somebody said "nolapic" can help, I tried, but cannot
[08:56] <thoreauputic> andy_: now you have more stuff than you dreamt of in synaptic ;)
[08:57] <yong> I used to use "shutdown -r now"
[08:57] <andy_> lol
[08:57] <andy_> any chance you can give me an example of one of these new toys?
[08:57] <andy_> just so i know it worked?
[08:57] <robotgeek> yong: what does 'sudo reboot' do?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> andy_: streamtuner
[08:57] <andy_> where would that be?
[08:57] <nalioth> andy_: gkrellm
[08:58] <thoreauputic> andy_: just use the search function :)
[08:58] <Madpilot> andy_: hit the Search button, search for whatever
[08:58] <bimberi> andy_: cowsay :)
[08:58] <robotgeek> andy_: or gdesklets
[08:58] <Madpilot> bimberi: apt-get moo
[08:58] <nitinshantharam> hey guys i configured my mailserver to use virtual mailboex and all with dovecot, how do i configure squirrelmail to use it so i can login?
[08:58] <bimberi> Madpilot: i know :)
[08:58] <andy_> ahh yes i see stream tuner
[08:58] <robotgeek> bimberi: wth...now this is too much!
[08:58] <andy_> and gkrellm
[08:58] <andy_> so what opens .bin files?
[08:59] <andy_> like what should I install to open those kind of files?
[08:59] <bimberi> robotgeek: don't get too excited, it's only text based :)
[08:59] <robotgeek> bimberi: a configurable talking cow!!
[08:59] <yong> robot: Does "reboot" have any differences with "shutdown -r"?
[08:59] <Somada141> a little help : i installed totem-xine but the quality is bad in divx and xvid files...is there any codec similar to ffdshow?
[08:59] <robotgeek> bimberi: ah okay...
[08:59] <deFrysk> yong no
[08:59] <robotgeek> yong: not much, i guess
[08:59] <deFrysk> reboot does shutdown -r now
[08:59] <Madeye> guys, I cant find my fonts directory
[09:00] <Madeye> I want to add some arabic font to my system to I can force firefoce to use it, where should I pull fonts to ?
[09:00] <yong> robotgeek: reboot links to halt
[09:00] <andy_> ? any ideas anybody?
[09:00] <robotgeek> Somada141: get vlc
[09:00] <nalioth> Madeye: ~/.fonts
[09:00] <Madpilot> !tell Madeye about fonts
[09:00] <Somada141> thanks
[09:00] <Somada141> i'll get it
[09:00] <thoreauputic> andy_: .bin files are normally non-ubuntu things that you just run - but what .bin files are you fooling with?
[09:00] <deFrysk> coffee
[09:00] <andy_> umm the AMSN installer bin file
[09:00] <nige> hello
[09:00] <Madeye> nalioth, no such file or directory
[09:00] <nalioth> andy_: most bin files are executable. your system is capable of doing that
[09:00] <nalioth> Madeye: you need to make it
[09:00] <nige> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors off 1 agp card?
[09:01] <andy_> nalioth, when i try to run the bin file it asks me which program to open it with
[09:01] <deFrysk> andy_, amsn is in synaptic
[09:01] <thoreauputic> andy_: *cough* amsn is in syanaptic
[09:01] <yong> robotgeek: let me try reboot now
[09:01] <yong> see ya
[09:01] <nalioth> andy_: search synaptic, as thoreauputic points out
[09:01] <andy_> i knwo guys lol....
[09:01] <andy_> i installed it from there
[09:01] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: don't search the web for random stuff
[09:01] <andy_> but im just saying for future refrence
[09:01] <nalioth> andy_: you have WAY more software available now then you'll know what to do with
[09:01] <andy_> just incase something isnt in there
[09:01] <benix> hello
[09:01] <deFrysk> deFrysk, pardon ?
[09:01] <nalioth> andy_: if it isnt there, come back here
[09:01] <thoreauputic> andy_: future reference - alway look in syanaptic first
[09:01] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, pardon ?
[09:01] <Somada141> it says vlc is a player though
[09:02] <andy_> lol ok
[09:02] <andy_> last thing to help me out
[09:02] <Somada141> does its dependacies include the codecs or sth?
[09:02] <andy_> u guys know how control + alt + delete usually starts the task manager
[09:02] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: sorry - mistaken identity
[09:02] <robotgeek> Somada141: yeah, it has all the codecs needed.
[09:02] <andy_> what do i press to start the taskmanager in ubuntu?
[09:02] <Somada141> thnx
[09:02] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, </shapeshiftmode>
[09:02] <robotgeek> andy_: applications -> system tools -> system monitor
[09:02] <bimberi> too quick robotgeek :P
[09:03] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: dunno what I did there :D sorry about that
[09:03] <andy_> robotgeek,  thanks :)
[09:03] <robotgeek> bimberi: :)
[09:03] <blake> fonts in /home/user/fonts <--
[09:03] <blake> fonts in /home/blake/fonts <--
[09:03] <nalioth> blake, it's /home/user/.fonts
[09:03] <topyli> andy_: ctrl-alt-del does not usually start anything. it reboots the box. you've been using very strange systems haven't you ;-)
[09:03] <Madpilot> !fonts
[09:03] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:03] <deFrysk> apt-get perk coffee
[09:03] <Madpilot> blaylock: see ubotu ^^^
[09:04] <andy_> topyli, in windows it opens task manager :)
[09:04] <nalioth> andy_: this isnt windows
[09:04] <andy_> how strange... aMSn is frozen yet it does not show in the system monitor
[09:04] <topyli> deFrysk: put (require 'coffee) in your ~/.emacs so you don't have to get it separately :)
[09:04] <andy_> nalioth, yes i kno thats why i was asking for the ubuntu alternative
[09:04] <deFrysk> topyli, consider it done :D
[09:05] <topyli> deFrysk: coffee.el is packaged in emacs-goodies iirc :)
[09:05] <nalioth> andy_: applications > system tools > system monitor
[09:05] <deFrysk> hehe
[09:05] <andy_> nalioth, i know now :) thanks
[09:05] <WMCoolmon> i'm having a problem with libpython2.4-opengl...i went to upgrade to breezy, and apparently libpython is now half-installed, but i can't remove or reinstall it
[09:05] <andy_> thanks for all your help everyone
[09:05] <andy_> i really appreciate it.. :)
[09:05] <andy_> im off now
[09:06] <nalioth> WMCoolmon: breezy is broken, for better or worse until Oct 13
[09:06] <deFrysk> WMCoolmon, apt-get -f install
[09:06] <ndisy> does anyone know the addition packages that i need to run mutant storm successfully?
[09:06] <robotgeek> 61 MB of updates...*gulp*
[09:06] <Somada141> question : when breezy is released i can download the image burn it on a disc and remotely update my hoary?
[09:06] <WMCoolmon> nalioth: what do you mean?
[09:06] <Somada141> that's cause i don't have a connection at home
[09:07] <skip> Hello, can sombody say me who I can find Evolution 2.4 for Debian / Ubuntu ?
[09:07] <bimberi> robotgeek: yeah, lots of X related stuff
[09:07] <nalioth> Somada141: you can remotely update your hoary via the network
[09:07] <robotgeek> damn, i guess i'll have to recompile my wireless  card driver now
[09:07] <Somada141> i don't have a connection at home
[09:07] <nalioth> WMCoolmon: breezy doesnt officially release until next month
[09:07] <WMCoolmon> deFrysk: when i try that, i get dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:07] <Somada141> can't i do via the cd?
[09:07] <nalioth> WMCoolmon: it is under frantic last minute developement
[09:07] <WMCoolmon> nalioth: erg, ahh
[09:07] <nalioth> Somada141: you can update it with the cd, yes
[09:07] <Garyu> which packages is the best to get my Hotmail into Thunderbird?
[09:07] <topyli> skip: it's in breezy. might be tricky to get it on hoary
[09:08] <robotgeek> Garyu: there's a webmail extension in thunderbird
[09:08] <Garyu> robotgeek: doh :)
[09:08] <Somada141> ok
[09:08] <nalioth> WMCoolmon: your next update (they happen all the time) may fix your problem, or it might be a couple of days
[09:08] <WMCoolmon> well, i'm in the middle of upgrading...so i doubt i can stop nowand still have a workable system :-/
[09:08] <Garyu> i was already looking at gotmail, hotsmtp and hotway
[09:08] <deFrysk> Garyu, I believe there is a plugin for that
[09:09] <WMCoolmon> is there any way to get rid of or skip the stupid python package?
[09:09] <WMCoolmon> i've gotten rid of everything that uses it
[09:09] <deFrysk> Garyu, search on the mozdev page of mozilla
[09:09] <nalioth> WMCoolmon: "apt-get remove <offensive package>"
[09:09] <deFrysk> WMCoolmon, apt-get -f install
[09:10] <Somada141> will i have to uninstall my previous divx,xvid codecs or totem-xine for vlc to work?
[09:10] <robotgeek> Somada141: no
[09:10] <Somada141> that's good
[09:10] <WMCoolmon> tried both
[09:10] <WMCoolmon> if i do install, i get "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:10] <WMCoolmon> "
[09:10] <LinuxNewbie> hello there i just installed a 3.5 floppy disk drive how do i use it? or mount it?
[09:10] <Somada141> oh and one last question...in the ubuntu poll ftp server does its folder contain the dependacies as well?
[09:11] <aftertaf> LinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /floppy
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> if i do remove, i get "dpkg: error processing python2.4-opengl (--remove):
[09:11] <WMCoolmon>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[09:11] <WMCoolmon>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[09:11] <WMCoolmon>   what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> Aborted
[09:11] <topyli> WMCoolmon: you're trying plain 'apt-get -f install' with no arguments?
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> "
[09:11] <Garyu> deFrysk: thanks, i found this one now: http://webmail.mozdev.org/
[09:11] <aftertaf> WMCoolmon:  pastebin
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> sorry
[09:11] <LinuxNewbie> and it will automatically mount it?
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> topyli: yes
[09:11] <aftertaf> s'ok.... but makes for much scrollage
[09:11] <topyli> hrm
[09:11] <deFrysk> Garyu, I know it works fine with yahoo mail :)
[09:11] <deFrysk> but should do hotmail too
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> "$ sudo apt-get -f install python2.4-opengl
[09:11] <WMCoolmon> "
[09:11] <LinuxNewbie> ok wait ill try it
[09:12] <aftertaf> LinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /media/floppy    <--- and normally, yes it will
[09:12] <topyli> WMCoolmon: python2.4-opengl is an argument. lose it
[09:12] <aftertaf> not same as debian woody... ;)
[09:12] <deFrysk> Garyu, if you want a proper free popmail get gmail
[09:12] <WMCoolmon> "$ sudo apt-get -f install" gives me the same thing
[09:12] <robotgeek> Garyu: get the 'remove duplicates' extension too, while u are there
[09:13] <robotgeek> yeah, gmail is great
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > sure is.
[09:13] <Garyu> deFrysk: I already got gmail, but for 'legacy' reasons I still need to access my hotmail once or twice a month
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Garyu: want a GMail invite?
[09:13] <Somada141> last question : in the ubuntu poll ftp server does its folder contain the dependacies as well?
[09:13] <bibe> hi all. I installed Breezy preview on my laptop (Radeon 9700 video card), I followed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com to install fglrx driver, but still no 3d acceleration. Xorg's log says it can't initialize DRI. Any suggestion, please?
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Garyu: ah, OK
[09:13] <topyli> WMCoolmon: sounds like your system is in a bad state. you could try removing the package with dpkg and --force
[09:13] <Garyu> [Chameleon] : thanks, registration is opened up at gmail now, no invites necessary anymore
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Garyu: is that to keep your MSN messenger alive?
[09:13] <bezak> what packages do i need to install for mpeg and mp3 playback
[09:13] <Garyu> [Chameleon] : no, but I don't want to make my gmail public
[09:14] <WMCoolmon> topyli: i'm trying it with build-dep, looks like there's some issues there that synaptic and apt-get didn't tell me about :|
[09:14] <Garyu> so i use my hotmail account for registrating at websites and such
[09:14] <deFrysk> Garyu, oh ?? havent been to hotmail for years and msm on gmail still work fine
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > Garyu: ah.... I wondered why they gave me 100 more invites.
[09:14] <Garyu> registering*
[09:14] <grifter_> Hi! Is there a "directx" equivalent in linux?
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > Garyu: OIC
[09:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell bezak about restricted
[09:14] <bezak> grifter_: opengl
[09:14] <bibe> bezak : have you tried ubuntuguide.org?
[09:14] <grifter_> bezak: thanks....
[09:14] <grifter_> :)
[09:14] <deFrysk> bibe bad call
[09:14] <bezak> wow my yellow in my terminal is illegible
[09:14] <Garyu> deFrysk: I occasionally use my hotmail, i regularly use gmail :)
[09:15] <nalioth> bibe: please
[09:15] <deFrysk> ! ubuntuguide
[09:15] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:15] <bezak> i was just hoping one of you guys knew haha yeah yeah i'm lazy
[09:15] <Shufla> hello
[09:15] <Blue-Steel> hey guys  i have a friend in  the need of some mirrors in europe .can any of you indicate me a url where i can get a list ?
[09:15] <bezak> grifter_: no worries :)
[09:16] <bibe> deFrysk , nalioth : sorry, I used it some months ago and it worked more or less perfectly
[09:16] <Shufla> WTF - after X upgrade I cannot set up my CRT to 75Hz, even with prev xorg.conf. HorizSync 50-70 && VertRefresh 65-75 and it's still 60Hz :(
[09:16] <deFrysk> bibe, its a bad resource , believe me
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> hey .. ubotu changed its definition abou ubuntuguide
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> !
[09:16] <ubotu> da_bon_bon: I give up, what is it?
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> :P
[09:16] <WMCoolmon> topyli: nope, didn't work...the problem seems to be that apt-get has cached the package as the very first item
[09:16] <thoreauputic> bimberi: one hopes the new help will end tedious flamewars about ubuntuguide :)
[09:17] <WMCoolmon> i suspect if i could get it to skip it and do the rest, i might be able to remove or install it
[09:17] <jc-denton> hi all
[09:17] <topyli> WMCoolmon: dpkg doesn't care about apt
[09:17] <bimberi> thoreauputic: hear hear!  i doubt it though, it will continue to be popular i reckon
[09:17] <jc-denton> i saw that ubuntu has mplayer packages
[09:17] <jc-denton> while debian doesn't
[09:18] <topyli> WMCoolmon: there's a file you can edit somewhere in /var to fool dpkg into thinking the package is ok. still looking
[09:18] <finlaylabs> can anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.
[09:18] <jc-denton> if i install them will i be able to play stuff
[09:18] <WMCoolmon> topyli: i tried dpkg -r --force-all, it just tells me the package is in an inconsistent state
[09:18] <jc-denton> or do i have to install codecs and so manually?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: that's the general idea I guess ;)
[09:18] <dazvid> jc-denton: are you on ubuntu or debian?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: yes, you might want w32codecs
[09:18] <bibe> deFrysk : ok, I won't use it with Breezy when it will be released. I am trying to get ATI 3d support, can you please suggest me some useful links to manage ATI and multimedia (mp3 and dvd, mostly) support?
[09:18] <robotgeek> !codecs
[09:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> jc-denton: install "all" codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu
[09:18] <WMCoolmon> topyli: do you know where packages from apt are cached?
[09:18] <topyli> WMCoolmon: /var/lib/dpkg/status. make sure to make a backup
[09:19] <bezak> hey guys, my screen on my imac is dark (was on mac os x too its just getting old) is there a way I can make X brighten it up?
[09:19] <topyli> WMCoolmon: /var/cache/apt/archives. but this is not an apt problem imo
[09:19] <SlicerDicer> has anybody ever had the mouse vanish from /dev/input/mice?
[09:20] <Shufla> why ``dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg'' do not setup Monitor section?
[09:20] <topyli> Shufla: use -phigh rather
[09:20] <jc-denton> ubuntu breezy
[09:20] <jc-denton> and what about the w32 codecs
[09:20] <nalioth> bezak: the same buttons used for OSX should brighten/dim your screen
[09:20] <WMCoolmon> wth, my root filesystem is suddenly mounted read only?
[09:21] <WMCoolmon> fuck
[09:21] <Shufla> topyli: autoconfig w/o any question :D
[09:21] <WMCoolmon> does anyone know how to remount my root filesystem as rw O_o
[09:22] <SlicerDicer> WMCoolmon: language
[09:22] <topyli> Shufla: that's 'low' isn't it? oh somebody wants that too? :)
[09:22] <LinuxNewbie> hello there i tried to use the command sudo mount /floppy it gave me a error!
[09:22] <WMCoolmon> right, sorry, i'm just dealing with the idea of losing my whole system...
[09:22] <WMCoolmon> gonna risk a reboot, i can't do anything
[09:22] <topyli> WMCoolmon: obviously it makes it hard for dpkg to install things :)
[09:23] <Garyu> Ah cool, got the webmail-extension working
[09:23] <SlicerDicer> WMCoolmon: check /etc/fstab
[09:23] <LinuxNewbie> does the diskette being a fat32 has to do with it?
[09:23] <Garyu> E-mails are coming in right now :)
[09:23] <jc-denton> No candidate version found for w32codecs
[09:23] <dazvid> SlicerDicer: he just logged out
[09:23] <jc-denton> lol
[09:23] <Shufla> topyli: heh. well, I've got KVM and Xorg cannot detect my monitor. when I choosed its vert/horiz values fro dpkg-reconfigure, these are f*cking ignored
[09:23] <SlicerDicer> dazvid: well dang
[09:23] <dazvid> lol
[09:23] <jc-denton> what is the use of this package?
[09:23] <dazvid> jc-denton: it contains codecs to play windows media files, and some other handy codecs :)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: w32codecs is in hoary-extras
[09:24] <jc-denton> no i mean it's a virtual package or so
[09:24] <jc-denton> i have breezy
[09:24] <SlicerDicer-> dazvid, well that was weird... my mouse changed from /dev/input/mice to /dev/input/mouse0 and my marvell chipset started magicly working off the bat lol!
[09:24] <topyli> jc-denton: it's a real package
[09:24] <finlaylabs> can anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.
[09:24] <jc-denton> thoreauputic: so i have to add another repository?
[09:24] <yahalom> any other people having problems with the cdrom in breezy?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: well, the codecs package would be the same I think
[09:24] <dazvid> SlicerDicer-: well as long as you can use it, theres no problems is there :P
[09:24] <LinuxNewbie> how can i view the floppy disk that has a fat32 file system?
[09:24] <jc-denton> ?
[09:24] <SlicerDicer-> cant argue with that dazvid :)
[09:25] <yahalom> not the breezy cdrom. say when u put a cd in, it says device not accessible or something
[09:25] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: you can probably just d/l it and install with dpkg -i I would guess
[09:25] <jc-denton> from where?
[09:25] <robotgeek> LinuxNewbie: doesn't it automount to /media/floppy ?
[09:25] <jc-denton> where is that extra source?
[09:25] <LinuxNewbie> it said that cannot mount disk
[09:26] <aftertaf> LinuxNewbie:  type sudo mount /media/floppy
[09:26] <bezak_> hey guys, my screen on my imac is dark (was on mac os x too its just getting old) is there a way I can make X brighten it up?
[09:26] <aftertaf> i neglected a detail last time.....
[09:26] <topyli> yahalom: happens to me, with all gnome programs. nautilus, sound-juicer, cd player...
[09:26] <LinuxNewbie> ok wait
[09:26] <cevizoglu> I have a new wireless card for my powerbook, but I'm not sure how to configure it.  here's the lspci -v: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2142
[09:27] <LinuxNewbie> ill try it wait
[09:27] <nalioth> bezak_: i answered you earlier, the same buttons that make OSX brighten and dim, should work on ubuntu
[09:27] <Shufla> f**********************************************ck :( xorg configuration will drive me crazy :(
[09:27] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: it's based on a netgear chipset, do it show up in prism54.org?
[09:27] <bezak_> nalioth: sorry i dropped out
[09:28] <topyli> Shufla: you don't configure X with fsck :)
[09:28] <bezak_> nalioth: um ok i don't have any buttons its an old imac
[09:28] <jc-denton> i still don't get it
[09:28] <jc-denton> there should be a debian pakage with the codecs somewhere
[09:28] <nalioth> bezak_: on your keyboard
[09:28] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: I thought it was one of the cards on prism54.org
[09:28] <topyli> jc-denton: yes, w32codecs
[09:28] <jc-denton> so that i don't have to do it by hand
[09:28] <jc-denton> but where do i get that package?
[09:29] <andy_> hey guys, back again... sorry
[09:29] <nalioth> bezak_: F1 and F2
[09:29] <topyli> jc-denton: hoary-extras
[09:29] <dazvid> Any luck with amsn andy?
[09:29] <andy_> just wondering if anybody is experiencing any distorted sound
[09:29] <andy_> yup i got it working
[09:29] <grifter_> I want to install the driver for my on board intel graphics processor. It says the DRI drivers cannot be installed without the latest kernel module. what should i do?
[09:29] <andy_> lol only to realise my sound is really distorted for some reason :S
[09:29] <bezak_> nalioth: nope f1 opens up help haha
[09:29] <dazvid> hah :S
[09:29] <Shufla> topyli: lol :) well... something is broken in hoary :( and since 8:00 i'm  loosing money, cos of new X update :(
[09:29] <jc-denton> topyli: yes but i run breezy
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > andy_: in Breezy?
[09:29] <andy_> yup
[09:29] <andy_> breezy
[09:29] <andy_> 5.04
[09:30] <Lie-Algebra> when was it released?
[09:30] <bezak_> Shufla: mb you shouldn't have updated :P
[09:30] <andy_> any ideas anybody?
[09:30] <TMM> hey all
[09:30] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: does "lsmod | grep prism" show anything?
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > andy_: are you sure you don't mean 5.10?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: have a poke around on http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/ (it's only one package)
[09:30] <andy_> like when there is bass it just distorts (its flat)
[09:30] <andy_> im using 5.04
[09:30] <andy_> im certain
[09:30] <Shufla> bezak_: it was just security update, isn't it?! :)
[09:30] <andy_> 5.10 was a mess for me
[09:30] <TMM> can someone tell me if I can read something about the huge bloody update of x.org today in hoary?
[09:30] <jc-denton> ok so there is no breezy extras
[09:30] <jc-denton> thoreauputic: thx
[09:30] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: afaik not yet
[09:30] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: no
[09:31] <barosl> is svga library only used in Framebuffer Console?
[09:31] <Lie-Algebra> explain andy, what happened ?
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > andy_: OK, so isn't that Hoary, not Breezy?
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > andy_: anyway, what audio chipset?
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: are you looking for libdvdcss2?
[09:31] <andy_> sorry hoary
[09:31] <jc-denton> [Chameleon] : i guess that too
[09:31] <andy_> umm windows sees it as Sigmatel AC97 audio
[09:31] <thoreauputic> jc-denton: same place
[09:31] <andy_> Im not sure what this sees it as
[09:31] <topyli> jc-denton: i can't remember where my w32codecs came from. apt doesn't find it now
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > andy_: add-in card or on motherboard?
[09:32] <finlaylabs> can anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.
[09:32] <jc-denton> yep i saw it
[09:32] <andy_> motherboard, im using a laptop
[09:32] <dazvid> topyli: w32codecs comes from Hoary Extras
[09:32] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: try doing a 'sudo modprobe prism54' and see if dmesg picks it up
[09:32] <Shufla> o f*ck... X&gdm prefers file /root/xorg.conf than /etc/X11/xorg.conf...
[09:32] <topyli> dazvid: i guess. could be a package i feched from marillat manually a long time ago too, dunno
[09:33] <finlaylabs> or even post-install setup of an encrypted partion...
[09:33] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/deb/ubuntu/breezy/
[09:33] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: no error message, no message at all.  what should I do next?
[09:33] <Shufla> huh :> I need coffe, byebye :)
[09:33] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: I'm watching a DVD on those right now.
[09:33] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: your card is plugged in?
[09:33] <jc-denton> cool
[09:33] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: lsmod is showing prism now
[09:34] <CaiN_SA> why do i need gnome stuff
[09:34] <cevizoglu> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[09:34] <CaiN_SA> to install firefox ????
[09:34] <topyli> cevizoglu: no message = no error = all is well
[09:34] <cevizoglu> topyli: that's what I was hoping  :)
[09:34] <jc-denton> well i just installed the ones from hoary
[09:34] <bezak_> Cain_SA: one of the universe's great mysteries
[09:34] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: pls let me know the URL to the w32codecs when you find them
[09:34] <benplaut> w00t!
[09:34] <benplaut> new/old keyboard!
[09:34] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: try configuring it then? use the system -> administration -> networking
[09:34] <jc-denton> [Chameleon] : ?
[09:34] <jc-denton> see above
[09:34] <benplaut> i love good ol' buckle spring TANDYs :P
[09:34] <topyli> cevizoglu: basic unix philosophy. be quiet until fail. when fail, fail noisily :)
[09:34] <jc-denton> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/
[09:35] <jc-denton> u can use these
[09:35] <robotgeek> benplaut: :)
[09:35] <jc-denton> just dowload
[09:35] <jc-denton> then dpkg -i
[09:35] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: thx
[09:35] <CaiN_SA> bezak, its quite stupid. firefox only need GTK
[09:35] <CaiN_SA> :(
[09:36] <andy_> whoa this is very odd
[09:36] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: are divx codecs from here usable in Breezy as well?
[09:36] <andy_> i just realised the output isnt working either
[09:36] <andy_> the sound plays directly from the laptop speakers, but not from any other speakers or headphones
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > andy_: could it be an ALSA mixer issue?
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > andy_: have you tried that workaround software mixer? uhh, dmix I think it's called.
[09:38] <TMM> ahh... x.org vulnerability
[09:38] <andy_> umm no i havent, where can i get it?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> andy_: tried running alsamixer and unmuting channels?
[09:38] <jc-denton> [Chameleon] : i think so
[09:38] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: thx
[09:38] <jc-denton> my moviez work with them
[09:38] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[09:38] <jc-denton> hi
[09:38] <andy_> oh whoa
[09:39] <andy_> lol the headphone jack was muted
[09:39] <[Chameleon] > jc-denton: OK, good enough.
[09:39] <andy_> thanks
[09:39] <[Chameleon] > andy_: sure
[09:39] <andy_> now i wonder how i can fix the distortion
[09:39] <jc-denton> afk
[09:39] <jc-denton> thx4help
[09:39] <Madpilot> does anyone know where ET-for-Linux puts the ET Players' Manual? (ie which directory?)
[09:39] <[Chameleon] > andy_: umm.. play with the switches...
[09:40] <LadyLinux> Went by directions for sun jave install would not make deb pkg.  Also cant find kernel source folder to install my modem.
[09:40] <thoreauputic> andy_: try setting pcm to about 75-80% and using the master volume control
[09:40] <andy_> ok cool.. ill give it a go
[09:40] <skip> hello ? can sombody say me who I can find evolution 2.4
[09:41] <topyli> LadyLinux: if you've installed the linux-source package, the source should be in /usr/src
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > andy_: when I had an older AC97 device, one of the unlikely adjustment tracks.
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !tell LadyLinux about java
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > ... made a difference with regard to distortion
[09:41] <andy_> i think i just figure it out
[09:41] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: my card is plugged in, but I don't see it in System-> Administration -> Network
[09:41] <andy_> in kmix i went to the switches tab then under PCM Out Path & Mute i made it "post 3D" instead of "pre 3D"
[09:41] <andy_> now its all good
[09:42] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: does the lspci output change?
[09:42] <andy_> thanks so much everyone
[09:42] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: yes it did, would you like me to paste it?
[09:42] <robotgeek> sure :)
[09:43] <family> is it safe to upgrade to breezy via apt-get?
[09:43] <cevizoglu> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2143
[09:43] <andy_> im gonna go now
[09:43] <andy_> thanks again guys
[09:44] <jblack> family: I believe its not recommended. However, I'm using it here with a few quirks.
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > aite, later andy_
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > thoreauputic: hehe
[09:44] <family> hmm.. what is the safest way?
[09:44] <family> anything broken?
[09:44] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: the card doesn't show up anymore?? with the module loaded?
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > family: not that I can tell.
[09:45] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: doesn't show up where?
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > family: actually, xine is a bit broken.
[09:45] <jblack> Not seriously for me. They could be for you. If you move to breezy be ready for heavy updates. They updated 126 packages last night.
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > family: don't know if it was before the updates though because I just now got it working .)
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > ;)
[09:45] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: cause u have posted the cardbus controller output, it doesn't show netgear anywhere
[09:45] <family> oh..
[09:45] <family> well, i'll give it a shot
[09:46] <family> has the gnome window manager improved since hoary?
[09:46] <finlaylabs> can anyone indicate whether breezy will enable easy setup of encrypted partitions as part of the install process? I know loop decvices for encryption is depreciated, but the new alternatives are not real newbie friendly to set up.
[09:47] <aftertaf> 73 for hoary too.
[09:47] <family> finlaylabs, try encfs
[09:47] <family> it's user space
[09:47] <finlaylabs> family: can do whole /home?
[09:47] <family> and easy to set up
[09:47] <family> yes
[09:48] <family> you will have to copy the files
[09:48] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: that's right, it seems to be gone
[09:48] <admin_> hello i cant mount the floppy disk drive pls help
[09:48] <GingerAle> one of my PC's stopped being able to connect to the net
[09:48] <aftertaf> admin_:  sudo mount /media/floppy
[09:48] <fek> moin
[09:48] <GingerAle> I have a broadband connection and the cables and router work, but that particular system will not find the network
[09:48] <finlaylabs> family: will have a look! What would happen if you hotplug such an encrypted dev, would it prompt for a pwd?
[09:48] <jblack> family: Remember that update I just mentioned? After letting the system install the update, my keyboard stopped working. :)
[09:48] <aftertaf> GingerAle:  type dmesg in console...
[09:48] <GingerAle> It cannot find it under windows, or ubuntu live
[09:49] <admin_> mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:49] <family> finlaylabs, it prompts for a password on mount
[09:49] <GingerAle> ok
[09:49] <bob2> LadyLinux: then you'll need to install it
[09:49] <aftertaf> GingerAle:  could be a dead NIC.
[09:49] <admin_> error
[09:49] <family> jblack, that doesn't sound so bad..
[09:49] <bob2> LadyLinux: what wiki page are you reading?
[09:49] <admin_> another way?
[09:49] <GingerAle> aftertaf, how do I fix that?
[09:49] <finlaylabs> family: sounds ideal. Looking now...
[09:49] <jblack> family: No keyboard isn't bad?
[09:49] <LadyLinux> bob2: what do I need to install?
[09:49] <aftertaf> if its a dead NIC, changing NIC is only option.
[09:49] <GingerAle> I thinks it hardware because several live CD's cannot find the net either with that machine
[09:49] <family> lol
[09:49] <family> i guess it is
[09:49] <admin_> but when i go to the device manager the disketter is there
[09:49] <admin_> pls help
[09:49] <admin_> badly needed
[09:50] <jblack> family: however, a reboot fixed it. ;)
[09:50] <aftertaf> admin_:  if you right click on diskette and choose mount, no joy?
[09:50] <family> see! i was right the first time :)
[09:50] <admin_> in the my computer i cant see the diskette
[09:50] <aftertaf> admin_:  http://www.alwanza.com/howto/linux/floppy.html
[09:50] <bezak_> hey guys how do i make the double click on the title bar make it wrap up instead of maximese
[09:50] <bob2> LadyLinux: what documentation you reading now?
[09:51] <aftertaf> bezak_:  change window behaviour
[09:51] <family> ok, off to mess things up
[09:51] <family> thanks
[09:51] <admin_> ok
[09:51] <bezak_> aftertaf: tah
[09:52] <aftertaf> ;) bezak_
[09:53] <Wilf> huzzah!
[09:53] <Wilf> ;)
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> ok i need help
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> i added a new user
[09:53] <LadyLinux> bob2: 1)HowTo build the Java package version 1.5.0 Update 4 (2)How to Install and setup a Smartlink WinModem Driver from Source Code (3)BinaryDriverHowto/SmartLinkModem
[09:53] <Wilf> anyone know how to get apt/synaptic through a proxy that requires authentication?
[09:53] <CaiN_SA> now why doesnt mu new user have access to the sound ?
[09:54] <LadyLinux> bob2: I follow the directions and get nowhere.
[09:54] <bob2> LadyLinux: you'd have to give me the url...
[09:55] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: weird
[09:55] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  try sudo adduser username audio
[09:55] <CrashBox> ne1 know how to get limewire installed on ubuntu?
[09:55] <aftertaf> Wilf:  yes.
[09:55] <bob2> "anyone"
[09:55] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:55] <bob2> then download limewire from their website as a tarball
[09:55] <LadyLinux> bob2: hold on while I find them.
[09:55] <aftertaf> !apt-proxy
[09:55] <ubotu> aftertaf: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:56] <djcheezecake> i'm trying to test out to see if ppl can access my apache server...if u would like to volunteer please msg me...thanks..=)
[09:56] <Wilf> i've tried editing the proxy file in /etc/apt or wherever it is, to no avail..
[09:56] <johnnybezak> how many of you guys are running breezy?
[09:56] <Wilf> when i try to update repositories, always says failed, proxy authentication required
[09:56] <bob2> Wilf: sounds like a problem with your network
[09:56] <johnnybezak> is it alright atm or still really crazy?
[09:57] <Wilf> when i want to access the internet etc
[09:57] <dazvid> Does anyone here have Cedega working?
[09:57] <Wilf> it pops up with a box
[09:57] <Wilf> where i enter a username and password
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > johnnybezak: I find it very usable. This will certainly be the last RC.
[09:57] <Wilf> but the box never pops up in synaptic...
[09:57] <aftertaf> wilf... does your proxy require authentification?
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > *most certainly I mean
[09:57] <Wilf> yes
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > brb
[09:57] <bob2> dazvid: #cedega is a better place to get help
[09:57] <dazvid> righto
[09:57] <bibe> johnnybezak : it basically works perfect, just a few issues (ATI 3D acceleration)
[09:58] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: i am taking off now, all the best with your wireless
[09:58] <LadyLinux> bob2: java https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[09:58] <johnnybezak> bibe: ok i might give it a crack (f-spot isnt working for me hoping an update would do the trick)
[09:58] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: ok
[09:59] <shaym> hello
[09:59] <bob2> LadyLinux: that's from you not installing java-package as it explains at the beginning
[09:59] <LadyLinux> bob2: smartlink (1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 (2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowto?highlight=%28smartlink%29
[09:59] <shaym> i need some help to configuring enemy territory into 32bits chroot
[09:59] <shaym> i'm using ubuntu amd64 version
[09:59] <bob2> LadyLinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java is a lot simpler
[09:59] <johnnybezak> do i just have to change to the source.list over to breezy and then dist-upgrade?
[10:00] <aftertaf> !apt-with-proxy
[10:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt-with-proxy is To use apt or Synaptic behind a proxy, create a new file called etc/apt/apt.conf and add the line "Acquire::http::Proxy "http://[toto:pass@] 192.168.0.1:8081";;", not forgetting to change all details relevant to your setup
[10:00] <ercueva> i've got a question... about ssh and ubuntu...
[10:00] <youngcoder> !query
[10:00] <ubotu> youngcoder: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:00] <thoreauputic> zorba64: plaese turn that off
[10:00] <youngcoder> lol
[10:00] <nige> anyone know how to setup dual monitors in linux
[10:01] <nige> well ubuntu
[10:01] <nige> with xorg ?
[10:01] <bob2> nige: search the wiki for Xinerama
[10:01] <ercueva> how can I set up a ssh server in ubuntu?
[10:01] <thoreauputic> ercueva: insatll openssh-server
[10:01] <thoreauputic> *install
[10:01] <CaiN_SA> thx aftertaf
[10:02] <nige> okay
[10:02] <LadyLinux> bob2:  Did you get the 2 for the modem?
[10:02] <nige> i will try
[10:02] <LinuxNewbie> hello can you help me how to setup the printer in ubuntu? its a lexmark
[10:02] <ercueva> but I am getting problems with: apt-get intall ssh-server
[10:02] <Hoxzer> can I setup ubuntu start xchat when the system starts?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ercueva: openssh-server
[10:02] <ercueva> it told me that there is a dependency with sss-client
[10:02] <LinuxNewbie> can yoy help me with the printer?
[10:03] <johnnybezak> guys to upgrade to hoary do i just have to change all my hoary's to breezy's in my sources.list then do a dist-upgrade?
[10:03] <ercueva> Ok, I do this...  apt-get install openssh-server
[10:03] <ompaul> LinuxNewbie, if you click on system -administration - printing you might have more luck if you wait we all saw you the first time and this took time - so the rebuke cost more then actually waiting :)
[10:03] <jsgotangco> johnnybezak, bingo
[10:03] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[10:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:03] <ercueva> and it told me that there are dependencies....
[10:03] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I have no internet with the ubuntu.
[10:03] <CrashBox> bob2: i keep gettin an error saying i'm using the wrong version of java when trying to run "sh ./runLime.sh" in lime wire
[10:03] <oolon> i was having trouble starting the ssh server
[10:04] <CrashBox> but i have java 1.4.2
[10:04] <thoreauputic> ercueva: then you have broken your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:04] <ercueva> this is what I get openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2) but 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu1 will be installed
[10:04] <LinuxNewbie> ok thnx
[10:04] <thoreauputic> ercueva: is this breezy?
[10:04] <ercueva> how could I fix this?
[10:05] <ercueva> this is ubuntu 5.10
[10:05] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I need to get these 2 items running to get on the internet.
[10:05] <jdermer> hi
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ercueva: ah - it may be that the current updates are causing problems
[10:05] <jdermer> is there a prime95 for linux ?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ercueva: I would wait a while and try again
[10:05] <skip> jdermer,  yes ..
[10:05] <ercueva> :(
[10:06] <skip> prime fpr linux google ..
[10:06] <jdermer> skip, i see a mprime and a sprime
[10:06] <ercueva> so, what can I do then? just wait?
[10:06] <oolon> when starting open ssh i get the Could not load host key: error but i have host keys in the dir /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[10:06] <thoreauputic> ercueva: you realise breezy is still in developmeant, right?
[10:06] <skip> jdermer,  you mean the stress testing tool or ?
[10:06] <skip> bruning cpu tool
[10:06] <skip> Burning ..
[10:06] <jdermer> o
[10:06] <ercueva> no, I didn't.... the names are not clear enogh actually.....
[10:06] <jdermer> the stress test i guess
[10:07] <jdermer> to make sure my cpu is ok and stuff
[10:07] <thoreauputic> ercueva: the current "stable" is hoary
[10:07] <jdermer> the blend test i think its called
[10:07] <ercueva> more if, as it is my case, one is not english speaker...
[10:07] <Bateau_> hey, i got this code, for a program. and it needs to be compiled (or something) what do i use? and how? (here is the code http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10042 )
[10:07] <skip> jdermer,  yes there is a tool  cpuburn ? I think and prime for LInux
[10:07] <skip> I think mprime is the name ?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> ercueva: get 5.04
[10:07] <ercueva> throreauputic: thanks a lot for your help.... u know when it is planned to realease the new stable?
[10:08] <LadyLinux> bob2:   you there?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> ercueva: October 13
[10:08] <ercueva> thoreauputic: ah, ok... I could wait then... or it's there a way to go from 5.10 to 5.04 ?
[10:08] <zero_Domz> gh
[10:09] <johnnybezak> about to do my breezy install here goes nothing *crosses fingers*
[10:09] <zero_Domz> chat?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> ercueva: not without much pain and knowledge, no :)
[10:09] <jdermer> skip, yea ill try mprime
[10:09] <jdermer> ubuntu seems to be running great on my new rig
[10:09] <jdermer> i got rid of my amd one
[10:09] <ercueva> thoreauputic:  ok, it will be easy to update to the stable version I guess.. .. am I OK?
[10:09] <johnnybezak> any people here big vim users
[10:09] <jdermer> cause ubuntu hated it lol
[10:09] <zero_Domz> hi
[10:10] <jdermer> i now got Celeron D 330J, Aopen 915G Mobo, 512MB PC3200, 80GB IDE
[10:10] <thoreauputic> ercueva: you will need to reinstall if you are using 5.10 and want 5.04
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > johnnybezak: good luck with your upgrade.
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > johnnybezak: I use vim, but I'm not extremely skilled at its keyboard shortcuts
[10:10] <thoreauputic> ercueva: when 5.10 goes stable you will have no trouble updating to it
[10:10] <ompaul> Bateau_, please read the guys web page - that might be part of something else - the way he says in the text then he asks you to contact him
[10:11] <ercueva> thoreauputic: I mean... when the new stable release will be out, I guess it will be easy to upgrade from 5.10 (unstable) to the stable one... u know what I mean?
[10:11] <johnnybezak> [Chameleon] : how would you do a find/replace?
[10:11] <ercueva> thoreauputic: OK---_)
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > johnnybezak: hmm... I know find is forwardslash
[10:11] <ercueva> thoreauputic:I ll wait then....
[10:11] <johnnybezak> thats a 541 meg upgrade haha
[10:11] <thoreauputic> ercueva: yes, if you keep 5.10 - but there *will* be bugs for the next month or so
[10:11] <jdermer> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:11] <jdermer> wut does that mean
[10:12] <luckyaba> ladylinux: modem?
[10:12] <ercueva> thoreauputic: OK... I'll thing about then....
[10:12] <ercueva> thoreauputic: could I help telling this error I got... or it is an "easy" to detect error?
[10:12] <ompaul> Bateau_, for C:: gcc -o foo foo.c << >> C++:: g++ -o foo foo.cpp but you have to put that code into foo.cpp first :) and it is a C++ program
[10:13] <LadyLinux> luckyyaba: Yes smartlink modem.  I read the wiki docs and can't find the kernel source.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> ercueva: all bug reports would be gratefully accepted, I guess - as long as they are useful ones ;)
[10:13] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and ercueva  and new ones
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > which reminds me... I have one to write
[10:13] <thoreauputic> yes
[10:13] <luckyaba> ladylinux: dialup, dsl, ?
[10:13] <_mindspin> any xp experts here (cough)
[10:13] <ercueva> thoreauputic: how do I report an error then?....
[10:14] <ercueva> thoreauputic:  sorry but I am really newby...:(
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > _mindspin: what do you need? query me if you don't want to be mocked
[10:14] <ompaul> _mindspin, please go to #windows w
[10:14] <thoreauputic> ercueva: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[10:14] <LadyLinux> luckyyaba: dial-up.
[10:14] <thoreauputic> ercueva: for things in "main" like openssh-server
[10:14] <wasiwatu> can someone tell me if it matters if I have x86 Ubuntu installed on an AMD machine?
[10:15] <ompaul> wasiwatu, it does not
[10:15] <aftertaf> has anyone had any problems with the latest stable updates for hoary?
[10:15] <LadyLinux> luckyyaba: I can't get the modem drivers to make right. can't find kernel in /usr/src.
[10:15] <wasiwatu> cool, so why do they have separate release cd's?
[10:15] <Kalidarn> just a question, will the 5.04 PXE configs work with 5.10 version?
[10:15] <HrdwrBoB> for install?
[10:15] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[10:15] <Bateau_> thanks ompaul :D it worked :D
[10:15] <ercueva> thoreauputic: that's great....:) thanks... BTW, what it the best way to control my desktop remotely? is it VNC the best way? it is not secure, is it? that's wy I wanted to set up ssh-server
[10:15] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: this is some winmodem rubbish, is it ?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ercueva: well, look at freenx
[10:16] <topyli> LadyLinux: is that an error message you're getting? "can't find..."?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[10:16] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> bah
[10:16] <LadyLinux> luckyyaba: Yes but there is linux drivers for it.
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ercueva: hang on a second
[10:17] <thoreauputic> ercueva: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[10:17] <bibe> LadyLinux : did you install linux-source package?
[10:17] <aftertaf> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2145
[10:17] <wasiwatu> does anyone have experience with installing AMTEL drivers for wireless?
[10:17] <aftertaf> ^-----error messages after stable update
[10:18] <LadyLinux> bibe: I attempted to 'make' the source to be able to install the .deb pkgs.  It cannot find /usr/src for the kernel.
[10:19] <ercueva> thoreauputic:  that's really useful...:) I'll have a look!.. thanks a million and have a good time in the other side of the world (I am in Spain)...:)
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ercueva: enjoy :)
[10:19] <topyli> aftertaf: try 'apt-get -f install'
[10:19] <bibe> LadyLinux : yes, but to compile the drivers you need linux kernel sources (or, at least, linux kernel headers)
[10:19] <LadyLinux> bibe: smartlink addresses - (1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28smartlink%29 (2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowto?highlight=%28smartlink%29
[10:20] <LadyLinux> bibe: I went by these directions and couldn't get past 'make stage.
[10:20] <rejden> re
[10:20] <aftertaf> topyli:  ok, am doing
[10:20] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:20] <aftertaf> topyli:  cheers, did it ok.
[10:20] <linux-noob> to anybody: can i install a game installer for windows xp in linux?
[10:20] <bibe> LadyLinux : did you do 'To begin with, you will need to ensure you have your linux kernel source installed.'?
[10:21] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: does that work offline?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: ah, no it won't
[10:21] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: sorry
[10:21] <hexion> hi
[10:21] <ompaul> hello hexion
[10:21] <ubuntu342> wow.. ubuntu is amazing
[10:21] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: catch 22 :/
[10:21] <hexion> what's the file I have to edit to change my path?
[10:22] <hexion> anyone knows?
[10:22] <aftertaf> hexion:  path? define please
[10:22] <Tomcat_> linux-noob: Yes, wine and cedega can do it... might not work though.
[10:22] <thoreauputic> hexion: /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:22] <wasiwatu> ompaul: think you could help me with an AMTEL wireless dirver problem?
[10:22] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  rapid fire... :D
[10:22] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: :)
[10:22] <hexion> whats the difference between editing profile and bashrc?
[10:22] <linux-noob> Tomcat_: so i have to install cedega first before installing the game?
[10:23] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: does that command work offline?
[10:23] <Tomcat_> linux-noob: Yes.
[10:23] <humulus> hexion: you edit two different files :)
[10:23] <aftertaf> basjrc is the init file for your shell interpreter
[10:23] <hexion> ok
[10:23] <thoreauputic> hexion: read the files - I think /etc/profile will source the other one
[10:23] <hexion> thanks :)
[10:23] <aftertaf>  /s/j/h
[10:23] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: yes.
[10:23] <oolon> anyone know how to start the sshd sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start gives me host key errors
[10:23] <humulus> hexion: profile is invoked by a login shell bashrc when you start a shell i.e. terminal
[10:23] <oolon> man pages arn't all that helpful to me
[10:23] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: I need both the modem and jave running to get online.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> oolon: that's th eright command
[10:24] <oolon> thoreauputic, it tells me it can't load host keys but i have them
[10:24] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: if you have a serial port, save yourself a headache and buy a second hand hardware modem
[10:25] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: I need a list of compatable 56k PCI modems,
[10:25] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: any external serial modem will work with linux
[10:26] <ompaul> oolon, to run I sshd I use dropbear
[10:26] <ompaul> oolon, mucky but works
[10:26] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: you would just need to configure it - no need for drivers
[10:26] <topyli> LadyLinux: pci modems tend to be winmodems. get a real modem
[10:26] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: 9 pin serial?  Would it be 56k?
[10:26] <oolon> ompaul, is it a gui? can i apt it?
[10:26] <topyli> LadyLinux: yes
[10:27] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: my modem is 56k - most are
[10:27] <ompaul> oolon, not a gui and certainly it is sudo apt-get install dropbear
[10:27] <aftertaf> wilf.... don't mock
[10:27] <oolon> ompaul, getting it now thanks
[10:27] <hexion> I just want to add ./ :D
[10:27] <hexion> It doesn't work :?
[10:27] <hexion> if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ] ; then
[10:27] <ompaul> wilf there are parts of the planet where that would be useful
[10:27] <hexion>   PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:./"
[10:27] <hexion> else
[10:27] <hexion>   PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:./"
[10:27] <hexion> fi
[10:28] <aftertaf> hexion:  dont PASTE
[10:28] <hexion> yes.. but after editing and launching a terminal, I still can't run programs in ./ without typing ./program
[10:28] <aftertaf> see topic
[10:28] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[10:28] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:28] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: There is a void in used modems where I'm from.  95% is new stuff.
[10:28] <aftertaf> or  #flood
[10:28] <hexion> It was a single phrase
[10:28] <hexion> It doesn't bother to anyone (just you)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: you don't know anyone with an old modem in a drawer somwhere?
[10:29] <hexion> rules are made to moderate certain attitudes
[10:29] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: nope.
[10:29] <hexion> not to be applied in stupid cases just because THEY ARE THE RULES
[10:29] <hexion> :S
[10:29] <xguestf> hello!
[10:29] <oolon> ompaul, ok i got it do i just run it or is there a config?
[10:29] <Wilf> and a 9.6kbit er
[10:29] <foxy123> hi, does anyone know anything about auto.net script and what it is supposed to do?
[10:29] <LadyLinux> will: you do?
[10:30] <hexion> that's just fascism
[10:30] <xguestf> somebody help from Ubuntu advocacy
[10:30] <aftertaf> i forgot i had an 'ignore' function :D
[10:30] <ompaul> oolon, if it installed okay you might be able to use it
[10:30] <hexion> poor...
[10:30] <oolon> ompaul, yeah no prob with install
[10:30] <topyli> hexion: you can add . to your path, but it's not very wise
[10:30] <ompaul> oolon, try it
[10:31] <oolon> ompaul, as root?
[10:31] <ompaul> ssh -C username@127.0.0.1
[10:31] <ompaul> oolon, no
[10:31] <hexion> I know topyli.. but still I can do it. The fact is that I have edited the file but It doen't work
[10:31] <oolon> ah thanks
[10:31] <topyli> hexion: $PATH:.
[10:31] <foxy123> I am trying to configure autofs and need some help here... anyone?
[10:31] <hexion> ...but stil I "want to" do it (I wanted to say)
[10:32] <hexion> :)
[10:32] <mchasard> hi just saw edubuntu which WM is proposed on this new distribution  ?
[10:32] <HrdwrBoB> mchasard: I would imagine metacity
[10:32] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Is there any place online that sells them other that ebay?
[10:32] <mchasard> so its gnome  ...
[10:33] <topyli> hexion: you have an extra trailing / there. dunno if it hurts
[10:33] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: I don't know really - I would guess so
[10:33] <hexion> topyli: If I do that, changes will not be permanent
[10:33] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: I inherited mine when a friend got broadband ;)
[10:33] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: I'm gonna download the headers for now.
[10:33] <mchasard> someone tries edubuntu ?
[10:34] <hexion> topily: I've changed /etc/profile  but the output of "export" doen't reflect the changes
[10:34] <oolon> ompaul, i wanna run the server so i can connect fron another box to it
[10:34] <topyli> hexion: you can add "PATH=$PATH:." to your bashrc. then make sure you source the file or start a new shell
[10:35] <hexion> ok, I'll try. Thanks :)
[10:35] <topyli> hexion: profile files are only read on new login shells, bashrc for every new shell
[10:35] <hexion> ok
[10:35] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Ok any idea on how to get java installed?
[10:35] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb <--java ready to roll
[10:35] <jtan325> anyone know where the log of stuff that got recently installed is saved?
[10:35] <jtan325> i.e. in synaptic you can view your "history"
[10:36] <jtan325> where is that file actually located?
[10:36] <dirk_> hi @all
[10:36] <ompaul> oolon, the thing is that if you can login  locally then remote should not be a problem if you can't log in locally then you have problems
[10:36] <ebf> to anybody here: how can i install yahoo messenger ?\
[10:36] <hexion> It worked :)
[10:36] <hexion> thanks a lot topyli
[10:36] <foxy123> gaim is no good for you?
[10:36] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Thanx so much hon.
[10:36] <topyli> hexion: good. now i'd advice you to revert back to normal :-)
[10:37] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: no worries :)
[10:37] <oolon> ompaul, i was able to connect to localhost but not from my other box
[10:37] <bob2> ebf: gaim can do YIM already
[10:37] <finlaylabs> anyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?
[10:37] <ompaul> oolon, does it have the client software?
[10:37] <hexion> I know topyli :)
[10:37] <nige> I tried to use xinearama
[10:37] <topyli> hwh
[10:37] <oolon> yes
[10:37] <topyli> heh even
[10:37] <ompaul> oolon, are you using IPs?
[10:37] <nige> but it i still get a cloned image on my screen
[10:37] <ebf> bob2: can u elaborate pls
[10:38] <hexion> many people has adviced me (mainly mi operating-systems teachers)
[10:38] <oolon> yes
[10:38] <nige> I want 2 separate desktops
[10:38] <bob2> ebf: on what?
[10:38] <bob2> ebf: just use gaim, which you already have installed
[10:38] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: If I install the headers and java, then everything else will work?
[10:38] <ebf> bob2: installing yahoo messenger in linux?
[10:38] <oolon> ompaul, 192.168.0.3 for example
[10:38] <z|bandito> hmm
[10:38] <ian_> ebf: open the program called "GAIM", add a new account, choose "Yahoo IM"
[10:38] <foxy123> efb: configure yahoo account and that's all
[10:39] <henk_> I'm looking for a tool (kde) that will allow me to use the mediakeys on my keyboard. like the volume wheel etc anyone know what i should use ?
[10:39] <bob2> ebf: no, do not install yahoo messenger, it's crap
[10:39] <foxy123> in gaim
[10:39] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: I don't know - I haven't done it :) Probably
[10:39] <ompaul> oolon, ssh -C username@192.168.0.3
[10:39] <ebf> bob2: but we need it here?
[10:39] <luckyaba> my gaim doesn't show yim under accounts?
[10:39] <hexion> oh, another issue...
[10:39] <bob2> ebf: no you don't
[10:39] <ompaul> oolon, does is ask for a password?
[10:39] <luckyaba> nevermind
[10:39] <luckyaba> yes it does
[10:39] <bob2> ebf: applications -> internet -> gaim
[10:39] <hexion> is there any way to launch apt-get dist-upgrade and force it to download X packages at a time?
[10:39] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: what sort of brain-dead modem requires java??
[10:39] <oolon> ompaul, it just times out but i can shh to the other from linux
[10:39] <ebf> bob2: ok w8 ill try
[10:40] <ompaul> oolon, what is the 'other' ?
[10:40] <oolon> a mac
[10:40] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: It's not the modem that needs Java, it's Netzero.
[10:40] <bob2> hexion: yes, but it would be painful. why?
[10:41] <hexion> I explain... actually my apt-get downloads just make a single download at a time... but that way I don't waste the whole downloading-rate of my ISP
[10:41] <hexion> of my ADSL..
[10:41] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: argh - get a new ISP :(
[10:41] <nige> how do i get my xorg info?
[10:41] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: It would have been easier with one problem for the final outcome, but 2. eeeeekkkkk
[10:41] <hexion> sometimes apt-get downloaded 2 or 3 files at a time.. and it was much faster
[10:42] <ompaul> oolon, paste the output of 'iptables -L' in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:42] <oolon> nige cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Any ideas???
[10:42] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: Netzero is your ISP right? What sort of stupid ISP *requires* java? Amazing
[10:42] <hexion> but I don't know how to control the number of downloads apt-get make
[10:43] <dirk_> knows anyone here the name of a german ubuntu-channel?
[10:43] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Yes netzero is, but it's dialer is java script using web browser.
[10:43] <ompaul> #ubuntu-de
[10:43] <dirk_> ompaul, thx
[10:43] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: looks like they also require Internet Exploder?
[10:43] <ompaul> !de
[10:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[10:43] <finlaylabs> anyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption? resierfs4 fullstop?
[10:43] <ompaul> dirk_, np
[10:44] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: javascript != java
[10:44] <clem_yeats> anybody knows a good file splitter ??
[10:44] <z|bandito> is there any local ubuntu script (included by default) that connects to a hostname 'notty' via sshd?
[10:44] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Yes it does and I use firefox in windows.  Close out Exploder after connect.
[10:44] <juerry> hello, i've just installed ubuntu in a external-USB device
[10:44] <ompaul> clem_yeats, there is a program called split and another one called cat << that puts the parts back together
[10:44] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: I hate Microsh|+
[10:44] <juerry> but when GRUB starts, it give me this
[10:44] <juerry> pivot-root: No such file or directory
[10:44] <juerry> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file
[10:44] <juerry> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[10:44] <clem_yeats> ompaul : is split a unix command ?
[10:45] <z|bandito> i notice there are a lot of packages available for update today, it's been a couple of days since i did apt-get upgrade and i notice some weird sshd activity on this box.. i'm the only one likely to ssh to the box...
[10:45] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: so how will you connect with linux? Run IE in crossover office or something?
[10:45] <juerry> someone can help me?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: get a decent ISP
[10:45] <ompaul> clem_yeats, it is available on Linux
[10:45] <oolon> ompaul,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2146
[10:45] <Sperm-Work> anyone in here ever installed debian?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Sperm-Work: of course
[10:45] <z|bandito> are these common/acceptible processes or does this look suspicious to anyone else?  root      1740  0.0  1.5  14460  1948 ?        Ss   20:02   0:00 sshd: maluniu [priv] 
[10:45] <z|bandito> maluniu   1743  0.2  2.0  15088  2644 ?        S    20:02   0:23 sshd: maluniu@notty
[10:46] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Nope Netzero has a deb installer using mozilla.
[10:46] <clem_yeats> ompaul : thanks
[10:46] <juerry> ...
[10:46] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: are you wedded to Netzero or something?
[10:47] <Sperm-Work> thoreauputic after u get done installing the base system for it and ur at the terminal what do you do to install kde?
[10:47] <ebf> bob2: i tried it and it works, oh i really i appreacite you all guys helping me
[10:47] <ompaul> oolon, I have no idea why it won't work but I bet it has to do with the mac
[10:47] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: No just the only one I can use at current residence.
[10:47] <ompaul> oolon, the reason I say this is because I have two ubuntu boxes here and I can get from one to the other no problems
[10:47] <hexion> bob2: can you tell me how to do that? (setting apt to download 3 files at a time)
[10:48] <ompaul> oolon, ps auwx | more
[10:48] <oolon> ompaul, thats whats wierd i can connect to the mac no prob but not to the linux hmm let me try linux to linux
[10:48] <ompaul> oolon, igore notat
[10:48] <ompaul> oolon, igore that last one
[10:48] <juerry> exit
[10:48] <bob2> hexion: why do you want to do that?
[10:48] <hume> hi...got a brand new hedghog installation where my screen shows a msg "Input not supported" when X starts and starts in lower resolution, however, when i switch to console 1 and back (Alt+F7) it disappears and shows correct soultion. Anyone havin any ideas? xorg.log gives me no direct clue.
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Sperm-Work: erm - you are installing from a bare bones install? You need to know what you need for that - why not run tasksel ?
[10:49] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: I just remembered, I could use AOL prepaid crap. NOT.
[10:49] <luckyaba> hexion: i think you just type the packages one after another with a space between
[10:49] <hexion> bob2: because when apt-get (sometimes) downloaded 3 files at a time, it was very much faster
[10:49] <bob2> hexion: oh, you mean simulatenously? no.
[10:50] <hexion> luckyaba: thats correct in apt-get install, but not to apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <oolon> ompaul, it works linux to linux so it's the mac i'll figure what to do with the mac Thanks :D
[10:50] <finlaylabs> anyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?
[10:50] <hexion> bob2: yes, I reffered on that, my english is not very good :)
[10:50] <luckyaba> hexion: oh
[10:50] <ompaul> oolon, check your version on the mac - maybe use ubuntu on the mac and get rid of the problem :)
[10:50] <oolon> ompaul, :)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Sperm-Work: else apt-get install x-window-system-core kdm kde  (and whatever else you need)
[10:51] <barosl> which is better, grdesktop or tsclient?
[10:51] <gsuveg> how can i put suspend my notebook on konsole ?
[10:51] <gsuveg> i would like test on breezy
[10:51] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Thank you so much for you help.  Is there anything else otherthan the kernel-headers that I would need?
[10:52] <bob2> gsuveg: sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[10:52] <ompaul> gsuveg, #kubuntu might be a better bet for that
[10:52] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: I don't really know to be honest - I haven't read the wiki pages you referenced
[10:52] <gsuveg> bob2: thanks
[10:52] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Like the folder to add to the modem script file so it can find the damn thin?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: I doubt you'd need the full kernel source
[10:53] <gsuveg> ompaul: why ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: you know how to install those debs manually, right?
[10:53] <hexion> how can I see motherboard and cpu temperature?
[10:53] <ompaul> konsole = kubuntu maybe there is more info there - like a button they have?
[10:54] <ompaul> gsuveg, sorry that last one was for you
[10:54] <gsuveg> ah. sry
[10:54] <hexion> (like in motherboard monitor)
[10:54] <z|bandito> i think i got rooted
[10:54] <gsuveg> console < its better ? and i dont thinks thats kubuntu relatet ;)
[10:54] <z|bandito> was there a big security update recently?
[10:55] <hexion> z|bandito: type " sudo apt-get upgrade" :)
[10:55] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: This is the error I got.   *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory
[10:55] <z|bandito> i know how to do that, thanks :)  I did it tonight and noticed there are many packages
[10:55] <z|bandito> it's only been a few days since i last checked, so i was wondering if it was a recent security issue or related to my recent installation of some new software packages
[10:56] <gsuveg> ompaul: it works
[10:56] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: but you didn't have the headers, right ?
[10:56] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: This is the error I recieved when I tried to 'make install' the modem drivers.
[10:56] <gilles> hi
[10:56] <hexion> do u use breezy or hoary?
[10:56] <shawarma> If i want to order Breezy CDs, when should I place my order in ShipIt?
[10:56] <cesar> i am using breezy x86-64
[10:57] <gsuveg> shawarma: its not released yet
[10:57] <gilles> i've got BIG problems with nvidia drivers and opengl apps ; someone can help me ?
[10:57] <z|bandito> i killed some suspicious looking sshd sessions and upon inspecting /var/log/auth.log i see evidence of an attack; likely automated by a script
[10:57] <shawarma> gsuveg: i know.
[10:57] <selinium> gilles: On hoary or Breezy?
[10:58] <shawarma> gsuveg: But usually it takes a month or so for your order to be processed and in a month it will be released.
[10:58] <z|bandito> what pam_unix?
[10:58] <LadyLinux> thoreauputic: Did you get the error I place in here?
[10:58] <hexion> anybody knows how can I see motherboard and cpu temperature?
[10:58] <z|bandito> whats
[10:58] <gilles> selinium:  right now i'm using kubuntu hoary-x86
[10:58] <selinium> hi thoreauputic! 89 security updates! wow!
[10:58] <shawarma> hexion: /proc/acpi/thermal/temperature, I think.
[10:58] <johnnybezak> f*ckin hell setting up smb is like pulling teeth
[10:58] <ebf> bob2: can i make gaim automatic loading of yahoo?
[10:58] <johnnybezak> hexion: just look in your bios
[10:59] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: yes, but I can't really help you, sorry
[10:59] <f00li5h> hexion: apci -ta
[10:59] <bob2> ebf: sure
[10:59] <selinium> gilles: i dont use kubuntu but what is the problem?
[10:59] <hexion> shawarma: it doen't work, I think it's not well configured
[10:59] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: i don't know enough about the compilation etc
[10:59] <f00li5h> hexion: acpi -ta sorry
[10:59] <shawarma> hexion: Ok, then your motherboard is not supported.. Maybe lm-sensors will do the trick.
[10:59] <hexion> No support for device type: thermal
[10:59] <MrSmile> Hi people!
[10:59] <ebf> bob2: without the hazzle of loggin in the gaim window?
[10:59] <f00li5h> hexion: that's terrible news
[10:59] <selinium> hexion: xsensors
[11:00] <MrSmile> I am a newbie.
[11:00] <bob2> ebf: I don't know what you mean
[11:00] <hexion> seliniuim: it's a new package?
[11:00] <MrSmile> I want to know what might be the difference from ubuntu and debian... My sister needs a linux system and I don't know what to install.
[11:00] <gilles> selinium: first i've got big pbs with nv driver, then i want opengl so i installed nvidia-glx, and after i tryed nvidia's latest driver ; now everything is broken and i'm using vesa driver
[11:01] <johnnybezak> MrSmile: install ubuntu, its just more desktop friendly than debian
[11:01] <aftertaf> ubuntu is debian made easier, MrSmile
[11:01] <thoreauputic> MrSmile: ubuntu is easier :)
[11:01] <ompaul> MrSmile, ubuntu will make your life and hers easier
[11:01] <ebf> bob2: this linux is for multi-user computer. So what im trying to ask is how would i configure yahoo messenger to run without going to add an account in gaim?
[11:01] <selinium> hexion: Have a look at xsensors (google it)
[11:01] <MrSmile> In howfar?! Has it a graphical installation program?!
[11:01] <zorba64> MrSmile, we recommend Ubuntu!
[11:01] <MrSmile> And what about the latest packages?!
[11:01] <Seveas> MrSmile, it has a text-based installer which asks only 3 simple questions
[11:01] <Seveas> so it's easy
[11:01] <aftertaf> MrSmile:  mid october, breezy wil have
[11:01] <bob2> ebf: you run gaim and it connects, that's what it does.
[11:01] <Seveas> and it has very recent packages
[11:02] <bob2> it's more than 3 questions
[11:02] <selinium> gilles, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the walkk through. It should sort you out
[11:02] <hexion> selinium: Im on it :)
[11:02] <ebf> bob2: so no way of getting into yahoo without entering gaim first?
[11:02] <johnnybezak> MrSmile: its just debian setup in a desktop sensible way
[11:02] <ompaul> MrSmile, try it you'll like it, your install it on all your machines as soon as you do :)
[11:02] <zorba64> but less than 20
[11:02] <bob2> ebf: you seem very confused
[11:02] <bob2> ebf: you're using gaim to access YIM
[11:02] <MrSmile> I will, i will....
[11:02] <gilles> selinium: but i also tried with breezy live: i enable 3d drivers; it work for say 5 minutes and after nothing responding
[11:02] <MrSmile> :)
[11:02] <bob2> ebf: accessing it without gaim running makes no sense
[11:02] <aftertaf> MrSmile:  you'll have a big smile, dude ...
[11:02] <johnnybezak> have you guys tested out the new gnome?
[11:03] <aftertaf> MrSmile:  what are you running right now?
[11:03] <MrSmile> for me gentoo as a developer is the overkill and I am very satisfied. But I don't like to install gentoo on a user machine.
[11:03] <bob2> LadyLinux: yes
[11:03] <bob2> gentoo is terrible for developers
[11:03] <bob2> since it means they never learn how to do things properly
[11:03] <bob2> e.g. library transitions
[11:03] <selinium> hexion, http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/14/0359254&mode=thread
[11:03] <z|bandito> goddammit
[11:03] <hexion> selinium: do I download .deb or .tar.gz?
[11:03] <z|bandito> it's trying to get back in!
[11:03] <z|bandito> look http://ayakonix.dyndns.org/auth.log
[11:03] <johnnybezak> haha look out distro flame war :)
[11:03] <MrSmile> not true (but everybody has a different opinion)
[11:03] <thoreauputic> LadyLinux: note that the ubuntu package is linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:03] <ompaul> MrSmile, one thing - be aware of sudo before you start it I will now get the bot in the channel to message it to you
[11:04] <ebf> bob2: but people here are not used to linux, so thats why im asking if there is a way that people will just click the icon of yahoo messenger in destop to automatically access the program
[11:04] <ompaul> !tell MrSmile about root
[11:04] <bob2> MrSmile: do you know what a SONAME is?
[11:04] <selinium> hexion: sudo apt-get install xsensors
[11:04] <LadyLinux> bob2: Thanx.  Would the folder be /usr/src?
[11:04] <f00li5h> !mell f00li5h about root
[11:04] <ubotu> f00li5h: I haven't a clue
[11:04] <bob2> LadyLinux: no, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:04] <finlaylabs> anyone know if breezy will have install options for reiserfs4 with encryption?
[11:04] <hexion> selinium: ok, thanks for your help :)
[11:04] <f00li5h> hrm
[11:04] <zorba64> !sudo
[11:04] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:04] <selinium> hexion: np
[11:04] <ompaul> !tell f00li5h about root
[11:04] <MrSmile> I was at the Linux corner and met one of these ubuntu guys on the Cebit this year. I know that root, is not used anyway.
[11:05] <MrSmile> right?!
[11:05] <johnnybezak> MrSmile: right
[11:05] <ompaul> MrSmile, you were messaged by ubotu the wiki page on root
[11:05] <bob2> finlaylabs: of course not, reiser4 isn't even in the mainline kernel yet
[11:05] <draug_n> ebf: you do that with gaim - click the icon and it connects - if you set it to autologon. fool around with the prefs abit
[11:05] <ompaul> f00li5h, you need tell not mell :)
[11:05] <f00li5h> ompaul: yeah, i know
[11:05] <MrSmile> I opened the wikipage
[11:06] <LadyLinux> bob2: I have to edit compiler file to find the headers.  Would I add this /usr/src to the file?
[11:06] <ompaul> f00li5h,  :-)
[11:06] <LinuxPids> can anyone help me how to install software in ubuntu
[11:06] <f00li5h> ompaul: root is disabled?
[11:06] <f00li5h> that seems silly
[11:06] <ebf> draug_n: ok, if its the only to access the YIM then be it ^_^
[11:06] <ompaul> f00li5h, seems and is are two different things
[11:06] <bob2> LadyLinux: no, you point it at /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build for the headers
[11:06] <onkarshinde> My roomie wants to work on VN.NET, But I don't want to install Windows. Is Mono the ultimate solution?
[11:06] <finlaylabs> bob2: oh I see. Hoary had reiserfs3, but no encryption option on install. Any chance of install-time encryption setup this time?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> !tell LinuxPids about synaptic
[11:06] <bob2> LinuxPids: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:06] <LinuxPids> im new in linux
[11:06] <ompaul> f00li5h, in any commerical environment using root can get you sacked
[11:06] <bob2> onkarshinde: no
[11:06] <MrSmile> How do you add extra modules and modify changes on the system if root is disabled?! For example, I want to add the dazuko module for a realtime virusscanner.
[11:06] <onkarshinde> LinuxPids: I can help you
[11:07] <MrSmile> Does it make my life harder?!
[11:07] <bob2> onkarshinde: what on earth is "VN.NET"?
[11:07] <onkarshinde> bob2: Can you tell me why?
[11:07] <hexion> bye
[11:07] <bob2> MrSmile: you use sudo like competent admins use everywhere, anyway
[11:07] <ompaul> MrSmile,  sudo apt-get install <insert your poision here>
[11:07] <onkarshinde> bob2: VB.NET, sorry for the typo.
[11:07] <bob2> onkarshinde: because it doesn't implement all the windows-specific crap
[11:07] <MrSmile> but if you have to build your kernel module from the source and to add it your kernel?!
[11:07] <MrSmile> What then?!
[11:07] <f00li5h> ompaul: at work everyone uses root on all the servers
[11:07] <f00li5h> ompaul: it's quite lame actually
[11:07] <bob2> MrSmile: dude
[11:08] <onkarshinde> bob2: And does that Windows specific part forms major part of it?
[11:08] <bob2> MrSmile: if you're as experienced as you say, you will have 0 problems using sudo
[11:08] <MrSmile> So, for everything is a sollution.
[11:08] <MrSmile> okay.
[11:08] <LadyLinux> bob2: Thanx so much, hon.
[11:08] <bob2> MrSmile: stop asking silly questions
[11:08] <bob2> LadyLinux: working?
[11:08] <bob2> onkarshinde: you're the one who knows VB, not me
[11:08] <ompaul> f00li5h, if I was your sec admin I would be handing out warnings
[11:08] <MrSmile> :(
[11:08] <f00li5h> i'm the sysadmins underling
[11:08] <LinuxPids> how can install software in linux onkarshinde
[11:08] <f00li5h> so i do as i'm toldl
[11:08] <ebf> draug_n: i just wanna ask if there is a yahoo messenger besides YIM in gaim?
[11:08] <bob2> onkarshinde: if you care about winforms, I think you're screwed.  if you're happy to use gtk# on windows, then you're fine.
[11:08] <onkarshinde> bob2: I also don't know VB. Seems like I have to search for it.
[11:09] <bob2> LinuxPids: read the URL I pointed you at
[11:09] <foxy123> so anyone who knows about autofs?
[11:09] <f00li5h> ompaul: the only time i use my username is to get email
[11:09] <finlaylabs> bob2: or any alternate encryption that wraps a mature file system?
[11:09] <ompaul> f00li5h, no tracking of who does what - check out the whole thing on the sudo homepage
[11:09] <bob2> onkarshinde: the mono site has information about the various languages
[11:09] <LadyLinux> bob2: Not yet, need to download files, reboot then do it.  I'm in microcrap right now.
[11:09] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  there are different .NET implementations in nux..... most seem to try to get the aspx part working
[11:09] <thoreauputic> LinuxPids: you've been given two links to the synaptic howto
[11:09] <bob2> finlaylabs: I'm not sure; I know someone was working on it, I don't know if it made it in or not
[11:09] <bob2> finlaylabs: I think dmcrypt is the current "right way" to do encryption on top of regular filesystems, it doesn't seem too hard to setup afterwards
[11:09] <f00li5h> ompaul: yeah, there is that too...
[11:10] <bob2> I'm planning to use that for /home on my laptop when I find time
[11:10] <ompaul> f00li5h, that is not good practice, it holds the potential for serious damage with no accountablity - very very bad -
[11:10] <f00li5h> ompaul: the thing is that we all have our own worstations
[11:10] <ebf> draug_n: for ubuntu i mean
[11:10] <onkarshinde> LinuxPids: It depends on what you want to install. If it is available in repositories or not.
[11:10] <f00li5h> ompaul: i know, it's a horrible practice
[11:10] <draug_n> ebf: nope. but gaim can access AIM, MSN, irc etc - all in one client! so you can connect to multiple networks at the same time and have them in the same buddy list.
[11:10] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I have it duel boot until I get it working then switch over completely.
[11:10] <ompaul> f00li5h, lets leave it there
[11:10] <onkarshinde> bob2: aftertaf: Any idea about DOTGNU?
[11:10] <gilles> anyone got a clue for this: opengl apps freeze after 5 mins (with nvidia's drivers) ?
[11:10] <finlaylabs> bob2: ok, I will look at it.
[11:10] <f00li5h> ompaul: heh, on the plus side, we have a server each, so it's a good bet that if my server explodes, it was my falult ^_^
[11:10] <ebf> draug_n: ok thx
[11:10] <bob2> LadyLinux: ah
[11:10] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  best combing the websites........ i havent dev'ed in .NEt for over a year, and never on linux.
[11:10] <MrSmile> Breezy Bradger release of Ubuntu....
[11:11] <bob2> onkarshinde: seems to have a lot less work put into it
[11:11] <LinuxPids> in the repositories i know that but i dont know how to do that in repository because im new in linux
[11:11] <klex> I can only choose between 640x480 and 800x600, how do I add 1024x768 a easy way?
[11:11] <bob2> gilles: talk to nvidia, #nvidia
[11:11] <MrSmile> If I install Breezy, can I update later on stable release?!
[11:11] <HrdwrBoB> !tell klex about resolution
[11:11] <bob2> LinuxPids: did you read that page or not?
[11:11] <bob2> MrSmile: of course
[11:11] <MrSmile> thanks
[11:11] <finlaylabs> bob2: I also looked at encfs, but appears to have poor performance.
[11:11] <thoreauputic> LinuxPids: for heaven's sake - read the URLs
[11:11] <aftertaf> ompaul:  w00t :/
[11:11] <aftertaf> ;)
[11:11] <LinuxPids> ok
[11:11] <MrSmile> Ubuntu uses the debian packages?! Right?!
[11:11] <f00li5h> ompaul: yes, the irony is that only the stupid people login as root ...
[11:11] <thoreauputic> !tell LinuxPids about synaptic
[11:11] <klex> HrdwrBoB, ?
[11:12] <tomahawk> hello there we are new Ubuntu users and we are currently configuring Ubuntu for an Internet Cafe
[11:12] <f00li5h> !tell f00li5h what you can tell people about
[11:12] <klex> HrdwrBoB, tnx
[11:12] <bob2> MrSmile: please stop with the "?!" thing
[11:12] <Seveas> MrSmile, ubuntu uses .deb files indeed
[11:12] <bob2> MrSmile: yes, ubuntu is based on Debian
[11:12] <MrSmile> People. I want to thank you very much for your help. It was nice for me asking you questions.
[11:12] <selinium> hi tomahawk
[11:12] <f00li5h> thing? i'm not sure what you mean bob2
[11:12] <johnnybezak> MrSmile: haha np ?!
[11:12] <f00li5h> help
[11:12] <brownie17> i need help
[11:13] <ompaul> f00li5h, PLEASE let it be
[11:13] <MrSmile> One other questions... I know HP is working with ubuntu on linux desktop projects. where can I read about that?!
[11:13] <bob2> brownie17: please just ask coherent questions
[11:13] <az[a] zel> woohooo, i got migrated to ADSL2+ infrastructure :) :)
[11:13] <f00li5h> ompaul: let it be? consider it done then .
[11:13] <brownie17> i accidently dragged my gnome menu ( the top one) over to the side of the screen, and it's massive and i can't drag it back!!! help me!!!
[11:13] <LadyLinux> brb.
[11:13] <bob2> az[a] zel: bastard!
[11:13] <az[a] zel> ADSL sync speed = 7616kbps
[11:13] <bob2> brownie17: chill out
[11:13] <draug_n> MrSmile: if you find it more practical to have a root shell for a while, you can sudo su - (and then you won't need to give root a password)
[11:13] <az[a] zel> I only have an ADSL 1 modem
[11:13] <bob2> brownie17: yes you can, just find a blank spot and drag it
[11:13] <bob2> az[a] zel: for a merge 8mbit/s, you must feel terrible!
[11:13] <aftertaf> MrSmile:  i dont like HP right now.....
[11:13] <johnnybezak> draug_n: or just sudo -s
[11:13] <brownie17> bob2, no blank spot, the icons have got massive
[11:14] <bob2> brownie17: then delete something
[11:14] <aftertaf> az[a] zel:  yeah me too... 5meg, i need a new modem for 20meg
[11:14] <MrSmile> They have released with the ubuntu development team  ubuntu liux notebooks.
[11:14] <Tonisee> Hello!
[11:14] <selinium> az[a] zel, you lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky.....................
[11:14] <brownie17> bob2,  ok
[11:14] <MrSmile> I want to know, if you heard about it, and where I can read further.
[11:14] <gilles> but it's only with ubuntu i got those problems
[11:14] <aftertaf> MrSmile:  google is king ;)
[11:15] <johnnybezak> MrSmile: i think i remember something about ubuntu and laptops just google it
[11:15] <brownie17> bob2, got it
[11:15] <brownie17> bob2, thanx
[11:15] <andreasvc> does anyone know how to get fonts back in Firefox after an upgrade to breezy?
[11:15] <bob2> MrSmile: yes, everyone knows, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=595
[11:15] <onkarshinde> MrSmile: I don't know where can you read further but I know where to download that release and I have used it. It is good.
[11:15] <Tonisee> is here anyone who is using magnetic card reader with ubuntu?
[11:15] <selinium> #j ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <bob2> it's basically identical to regular Ubuntu
[11:15] <LinuxNewbieX6X> does this command have an error: sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C
[11:15] <onkarshinde> andreasvc: Are you talking about package msttcorefonts?
[11:15] <LinuxNewbieX6X> pls help
[11:15] <Seveas> LinuxNewbie, yes it has
[11:15] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: depends what you're trying to do
[11:16] <dazvid> Is it possible to setup a p2p with a windows machine and an ubuntu ?
[11:16] <Seveas> the -C is incorrect
[11:16] <andreasvc> well my firefox displays not a single letter, Mozilla is fine.. it doesn't even have menus!
[11:16] <Seveas> -C needs an argument
[11:16] <bob2> dazvid: "a p2p"?
[11:16] <selinium> Hi Seveas, :)
[11:16] <dazvid> peer 2 peer
[11:16] <aftertaf> dazvid:  samba
[11:16] <LinuxNewbieX6X> could you pls correct it
[11:16] <MrSmile> Good bye
[11:16] <dazvid> as in, no router, just a crossover cable
[11:16] <Seveas> LinuxNewbie, you can leave out the -C
[11:16] <draug_n> linixnewbie: try tar -xzvf <whatever>
[11:16] <dazvid> Samba, righto
[11:16] <onkarshinde> andreasvc: Do you mean to say it won't display any site?
[11:16] <bob2> dazvid: yes
[11:16] <topyli> dazvid: that's what i have
[11:17] <draug_n> and man tar
[11:17] <aftertaf> dazvid:  get them both on same ip subnet, then use samba
[11:17] <dazvid> Righto
[11:17] <andreasvc> onkarshinde, yes, neither menus
[11:17] <Seveas> breezy has an easy-samba-seyup thingie
[11:17] <Seveas> it rocks :)
[11:17] <LinuxNewbieX6X> im trying to install my printer my the steps here suggest that i do it
[11:17] <dazvid> Seveas: I cant wait for it
[11:17] <dazvid> :)
[11:17] <ebf> draug_n: how can i install window based games in ubuntu? if cedege and wine is not reliable
[11:17] <Seveas> dazvid, then dist-upgrade to it, it's awesome :D
[11:17] <Seveas> LadyLinux, only if you drink tea :p
[11:17] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i leave the -C its having some error
[11:17] <dazvid> But isnt it a bit unstable?
[11:18] <johnnybezak> ebf: you can't cedega is the only way
[11:18] <LadyLinux> Kewlies, lol
[11:18] <Seveas> LadyLinux, what do you mean with 'cookies' TCP cookies, Xauth cookies, browser cookies, chocolate chip cookies?
[11:18] <onkarshinde> Firefox 1.5 is set to release at October end. Can we expect a backported release for breezy then?
[11:18] <topyli> Seveas: it does? what sort of samba setup-thing?
[11:18] <Seveas> onkarshinde, possibly...
[11:18] <bob2> onkarshinde: no doubt they'll do a broken backport of it
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[11:18] <Seveas> bob2, :D
[11:18] <shinu> i just got myself apach2 and php4, what else do i need for php to work under apache2?
[11:18] <Seveas> libapache2-mod-php4
[11:19] <shinu> ok
[11:19] <shinu> thanks
[11:19] <ebf> but its not free. is there any program that is free?
[11:19] <bob2> ebf: no
[11:19] <bob2> ebf: wine may work with some
[11:19] <LadyLinux> Seveas Cookies, spyware, etc.
[11:19] <Seveas> LadyLinux, cookies are a part of the web, they have very useful and legitimate uses
[11:19] <johnnybezak> ebf: just pay one month, then cancel your subscription
[11:19] <ebf> so wine is free?
[11:19] <ebf> ok
[11:19] <johnnybezak> ebf: then it costs like 5 bucks
[11:20] <Seveas> spyware/viruses etc is not so much a problem :)
[11:20] <aftertaf> !breezy
[11:20] <topyli> cookies are good for you
[11:20] <Tonisee> i had problem with cardreader which connects between keyboard and computer (PS2 version then). If i plug my computer in, both keyboard and cardreader are working nicely - i can type while Ubuntu boots (kernel is being loaded in etc) and also cardreader works. If i pull card thru reader, it displays card number etc. After changing runlevel to 5 (i guess that graphical mode is 5) - neither keyboard or cardreader work. Keyboard is "locked" - i cant typ
[11:20] <johnnybezak> topyli: unless you eat too many
[11:20] <draug_n> ebf: well, there is cvscedega, but you need to manually complie. and it is free (but wothout some features. copy-protection support f.ex)
[11:20] <Tonisee> any ideas what to check?
[11:20] <LadyLinux> Seveas Crap.  I hate them
[11:20] <topyli> johnnybezak: oh, lots of room in my cache for cookies!
[11:20] <selinium> Where can i get the iso of breezy?
[11:20] <shinu> i just installed libapapche2-mod-php4 but it still tells me to download a phtml file instead of showing the page...
[11:21] <ebf> so i just have to search for it in the net? the cvscedega
[11:21] <shinu> i stopped apache2 and started it again but it didnt help
[11:21] <shinu> why is that?
[11:21] <andreasvc> selinium: install hoary and atp-get upgarde from that
[11:21] <draug_n> ebf: good howto on ubuntuforums org
[11:21] <selinium> andreasvc, Sorry, i want the live cd
[11:21] <onkarshinde> !breezy
[11:22] <Seveas> selinium, releases.ubuntu.com has the preview release
[11:22] <bob2> Tonisee: no, all the runlevels (2-5) are identical by default, and they all start X
[11:22] <Tonisee> ok, inittab is showing that default is 2
[11:22] <Tonisee> so it must be so
[11:22] <heatxsink> anyone in here on breezy?
[11:23] <selinium> Seveas, Cheers!
[11:23] <johnnybezak> heatxsink: upgrading as we speak!
[11:23] <johnnybezak> how do you guys like new gnome?
[11:23] <Seveas> heatxsink, I'm using it
[11:23] <heatxsink> johnnybezak:  I upgraded
[11:23] <topyli> heatxsink: NO! you must be mad! ;-)
[11:23] <heatxsink> but my Xserver is whacked out
[11:23] <LadyLinux> Wow, hot spicy noodle disk.
[11:23] <Seveas> the new gnome r0x0rs your b0x0rz :)
[11:23] <Tonisee> i have strange feeling that maybe this keyboard.sh (or something similar) in /etc/init.d is the root of evil in my case
[11:23] <aftertaf> loool Seveas
[11:23] <heatxsink> I don't have certain fonts or somethin
[11:23] <Tonisee> btw.. cardreader worked well with Fedora 1
[11:23] <Seveas> heatxsink, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:24] <Tonisee> and with Fedora 4 too
[11:24] <Seveas> mine did too because I massively tweaked xorg.conf
[11:24] <sly> Ew @ fedora =\
[11:24] <johnnybezak> Seaveas: haha how come
[11:24] <selinium> Seveas, does running the live cd do anything to the installed software?
[11:24] <andreasvc> selinium, no
[11:24] <Seveas> johnnybezak, cairo, nautilus improved, lots of NEEDED and useful utilities etc...
[11:25] <shinu> anyone an idea why instead of showing my page the server tells me to dl a phtml file?
[11:25] <johnnybezak> Seveas: can you see any difference with cairo
[11:25] <Seveas> shinu, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:25] <Seveas> johnnybezak, the svg stuff is so great for the visually impaired....
[11:25] <LinuxPids> how to convert .rpm files to .deb
[11:25] <shinu> Seveas: didnt seem to help :/
[11:25] <LinuxPids> can anyone help me
[11:25] <Seveas> LinuxPids, just get a deb for your software :)
[11:26] <Seveas> shinu, did you install both apache and apache2 perhaps?
[11:26] <LinuxPids> thanks
[11:26] <shinu> uh
[11:26] <bob2> LinuxPids: it's easier if you tell us what you're trying to do
[11:26] <jack-> does anyone know when breezy will be "final"?
[11:26] <mjr> LinuxPids, alien can be used for that, but should be avoided if a deb is available
[11:26] <shinu> i think i uninstalled apache already
[11:26] <bob2> LinuxPids: for instance, telling us what you want to install
[11:26] <johnnybezak> Seveas: are you visually impaired
[11:26] <selinium> jack-, OCt 13th
[11:26] <jack-> i'd like to upgrade, but preview sounds scary..
[11:26] <johnnybezak> jack: its in october
[11:26] <jack-> ok
[11:26] <shinu> Seveas: think i uninstalled apache already
[11:26] <Seveas> johnnybezak, I'm not
[11:27] <shinu> Seveas: rc  apache         1.3.33-4       versatile, high-performance HTTP server
[11:27] <Seveas> but the cairo stuff is neat for the non-visually impaired people to :)
[11:27] <nalioth_zZz> jack-: official release date oct 13
[11:27] <Sly> ive been linux only now for just over a year, Yay to me * Clap* *Clap*
[11:27] <Seveas> shinu, uninstall apache and install apache2
[11:27] <jack-> thx
[11:27] <johnnybezak> Seveas: ok cool. i saw that the clear looks guy is porting to cairo. i wonder when we will get to see some of the sweet eye candy filter down
[11:27] <LadyLinux> Wow, hot spicy noodle dish, nose is clear.
[11:27] <johnnybezak> Sly: haha well done
[11:28] <Seveas> johnnybezak, around april :)
[11:28] <Sly> :)
[11:28] <nalioth_zZz> LadyLinux: hopefully not too hot/spicy, otw tears cloud the vision
[11:28] <LinuxNewbieX6X> got the printer now the diskette problem
[11:28] <Seveas> when cairo is improved too (faster and it can use the videocard properly)
[11:28] <selinium> Seveas: Saw an article on Cairo in a mag, looks impressive.
[11:28] <johnnybezak> Seveas: haha why april
[11:29] <Seveas> johnnybezak, the next ubuntu release will be in april
[11:29] <shinu> Seveas: i just reinstalled apache2 and apache isnt installed anyways but doesnt seem to work...
[11:29] <johnnybezak> Seveas: you think there will be some stuff in it by then?
[11:29] <Seveas> selinium, cairo r0x0rs your b0x0rz :)
[11:29] <LadyLinux> Does pkg download with ubuntu allow restart where left off?
[11:29] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i pop the disk into the disk drive and go to my computer and double click the floppy it returned a error: unable to mount selected volume
[11:29] <LinuxNewbieX6X> can you help
[11:29] <johnnybezak> Seveas: whats the release after breezy called?
[11:29] <Seveas> LadyLinux, yes
[11:29] <heatxsink> damn thanks guys
[11:29] <Seveas> johnnybezak, not yet known
[11:29] <heatxsink> I at least got X working
[11:29] <LinuxNewbieX6X> pls help
[11:29] <dazvid> Seveas: so updating eh... will it ruin my programs I have atm ?
[11:30] <Sly> i think................ should be a Frog, as i like frogs,. Frantic Frog
[11:30] <Sly> maybe ;)
[11:30] <Seveas> shinu, sudo a2enmod php4 && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:30] <LadyLinux> Seveas: kewl, if I get disconnect from netzero.
[11:30] <selinium> Seveas: I am looking to actually do some application programming. I want to get a bit more involved. Where do I start?
[11:30] <LinuxNewbieX6X> pls help
[11:30] <Seveas> dazvid, not if they aren't third-party programs
[11:30] <heatxsink> in apt I don't know how to upgrade two packages that were kept back
[11:30] <dazvid> righto
[11:30] <heatxsink> apt-get -f install doesn't work
[11:30] <Seveas> selinium, can you program already?
[11:31] <heatxsink> neither does apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <Seveas> heatxsink, which packages?
[11:31] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i pop the disk into the disk drive and go to my computer and double click the floppy it returned a error: unable to mount selected volume
[11:31] <LinuxNewbieX6X> pls help
[11:31] <heatxsink> gnome-app-install and libgnome-cil
[11:31] <LadyLinux> This is gonna be a 36 hour day.
[11:31] <LinuxNewbieX6X> urgent need the disk
[11:31] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: dude, chill out
[11:31] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: "pls help" is annoying, not encouraging
[11:31] <selinium> Seveas: Yes, but mainly PHP, but the priciples are interchangable. I am going to do some python.
[11:31] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: does mounting it manually work?
[11:31] <Seveas> heatxsink, dpkg --configure --pending
[11:31] <shinu> Seveas: it said the module is already enabled but i cant get to my page :/
[11:31] <Seveas> and then install the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:32] <LinuxNewbieX6X> the command sudo mount /media/floppy?
[11:32] <selinium> Seveas: I used to program pascal and cobol (showing my age) :)
[11:32] <Seveas> :D
[11:32] <heatxsink> Seveas:  still didn't work
[11:32] <selinium> Seveas: And Basic! :)
[11:32] <Seveas> selinium, if you want to get involved with ubuntu, the best thing to do is not programming but packaging
[11:33] <selinium> Seveas: tell me more.
[11:33] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: yes, exactly
[11:33] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i use that command it said i must specify the file system
[11:33] <Seveas> selinium, if you want to do packaging (which includes shellscript programming, writing makefiles and making ubuntu rock), contact the MOTU :)
[11:33] <LadyLinux> LinuxNewbieX6X: chill, your computer is haveing a brain fart err chip fart.
[11:33] <LinuxNewbieX6X> what should i add
[11:33] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy
[11:33] <bob2> selinium: even better than packaging is fixing existing packages
[11:33] <selinium> Sev
[11:33] <bob2> selinium: there's huge numbers of bugs in universe
[11:33] <Sly> LinuxNewb , it may not actualy mount it , if you havnt a floppy actualy in the device
[11:33] <Sly> is what i came across on ubuntu on the laptop
[11:34] <Sly> wouldnt mount the floppy drive, unless anything was in it
[11:34] <selinium> Seveas, Sorry for being dumb but MOTU?
[11:34] <Adross> in hoary, if you have gaim on one workspace, and are working on another, clicking on the gaim icon or on a guification will take you to gaim's workspace. In breezy, clicking on the gaim icon or a guification brings the app to your workspace. Is there anyway to change this?
[11:34] <heatxsink> god i love the bootup screen
[11:34] <selinium> bob2: All sounds good!
[11:34] <Bryn_S> can anyone help me with locales? I've installed the cy_GB locale, ran dpkg-reconfigure locales to generate the locale and it's saying it doesn't exist
[11:34] <LinuxNewbieX6X> it gave me sets of command
[11:34] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i use this sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy
[11:34] <bob2> Adross: file a bug!
[11:35] <Adross> bob2: i don't think its a bug though, just a setting
[11:35] <bob2> LinuxNewbieX6X: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[11:35] <topyli> selinium: Masters Of The Universe! i.e. those who maintain universe packages
[11:35] <selinium> topyli, Cheers! and Hi again!
[11:35] <Seveas> selinium, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and #ubuntu-motu
[11:35] <ebf> bob2: why is it that i cant see my home network?
[11:35] <selinium> Cheers guys
[11:36] <LinuxNewbieX6X> thnx alot men
[11:36] <LinuxNewbieX6X> when i reboot the disk will remain
[11:36] <Kalidarn> im guessing the files for a tftpd PXE installation of Ubuntu havn't changed in 5.10 when compared to 5.04
[11:36] <LinuxNewbieX6X> as it is?
[11:36] <bob2> ebf: how on earth could I aswer that?
[11:36] <Kalidarn> as i can't new ones.
[11:36] <bob2> ebf: did you set it up?
[11:36] <bob2> ebf: what do you mean by "see"?
[11:36] <topyli> selinium: i'm thinking i'll maintain sl for ubuntu and pring "Master of the Universe" on my business cards
[11:37] <topyli> printing even
[11:37] <Seveas> :D
[11:37] <topyli> much cooler than "master of arts"
[11:37] <selinium> topyli, lol
[11:37] <ebf> bob2: yup thats why i have an internet connection. i mean "see" is i cannot view other pc on the network, eventhough i can ping them
[11:37] <cevizoglu> I'm trying to configure my netgear WG511 card.  I've installed prism54 mod with modprobe, lsmod shows the prism54 mod there, but the card doesn't show up the network prefs.  What should I do?
[11:38] <heatxsink> my icons are all jacked up in Gnome any ideas?
[11:38] <LadyLinux> How do you get a 30 mb file faster on 56K?
[11:38] <cevizoglu> I'm on hoary w/ a powerbook
[11:38] <Sly> LadyLinux .. Pray
[11:38] <LadyLinux> lol.
[11:38] <Sly> :)
[11:38] <Sly> take a nap for 40mins, or however long it is
[11:39] <Sly> i imagine it to be around that area?
[11:39] <markuman> hi,
[11:39] <selinium> If breezy runs fine from the Live cd can I install it and still be able to chose hoary in grub?
[11:39] <bob2> ebf: so you can see them fine
[11:39] <markuman> what is the dcopc server? what did it do?
[11:39] <LadyLinux> bob2:  After I get ubuntu online, then the real installing happens - KDE - Beast - rosegarden4 - Brahms.  At least it will be easier.
[11:40] <bob2> markuman: it's a kde thing for letting applications to talk to them
[11:40] <bob2> LadyLinux: hah, yeah
[11:40] <bob2> LadyLinux: what have you been setting up?
[11:40] <ebf> bob2: yah i can ping them but i cant access them? i mean i would like to access the other pc from here
[11:41] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I'm part of a band and need good recording/composing/mixing software.
[11:41] <wahlau> re
[11:41] <markuman> bob2, with hoary lineakd works fine without any trouble. and now with breezy cames an error: DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[11:41] <ebf> bob2: just like in network places of windows xp
[11:41] <wahlau> anyone here knows about scim?
[11:41] <wahlau> i think for hoary something is broken, due to the latest change in scim packages
[11:41] <bob2> ebf: you need to define "access"
[11:41] <bob2> ebf: you mean via SMB or something?
[11:41] <bob2> LadyLinux: ahhh
[11:41] <Bryn_S> can anyone help with my locales problem?
[11:41] <aftertaf> selenium... install using chroot & debootstrap ;)
[11:42] <bob2> markuman: kubuntu bug, report it
[11:42] <ebf> bob2: via lan
[11:42] <family> hey. i want to remove everything but ubuntu-base - how can i do that?
[11:42] <admin_> can anyone help me how install a .exe in ubuntu linux
[11:42] <bob2> ebf: you need to be a lote more specific
[11:42] <bob2> admin_: you can't
[11:42] <bob2> admin_: unless you mean "run it under wine"
[11:42] <bob2> family: why?
[11:42] <family> because i want to
[11:42] <Sly> lol
[11:43] <bob2> ebf: what do you want to do with them?
[11:43] <bob2> family: but *why*?
[11:43] <LadyLinux> bob2:  Our band is called Defile and it's a cross between Death Metal and alternative.  My sis and I are the only women doing this type of music.
[11:43] <bob2> family: if you have some other problem, this will not fix it
[11:43] <family> because that's what i would like to do
[11:43] <assistants> hi
[11:43] <family> i don't want to reinstall, but i want nothing but ubuntu-base
[11:43] <shinu> is it normal that even when i stopped apache2, when i connect to my server on port 80, it still tells me to download some phtml file?
[11:43] <bob2> family: that's not going to fix anything
[11:43] <bob2> shinu: something else is running then
[11:44] <bob2> shinu: 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80' will show you what
[11:44] <Tonisee> ok, good day
[11:44] <family> bob2: do you know how to do it or not?
[11:44] <bob2> LadyLinux: heh, sounds cool
[11:44] <bob2> family: yes, but I'm very curious about why you want to smash your system like that
[11:44] <bob2> and it's dangerous enough that I won't tell you unless you explain what on earth you're doing
[11:44] <family> i just said why
[11:44] <bob2> no, you didn't
[11:44] <bob2> you said "I want to"
[11:44] <family> i don't want to reinstall, but i want nothing but ubuntu-base
[11:44] <shinu> bob2: the only port it grepped is 6880...
[11:44] <shinu> bob2: so supposedly nothing is running?
[11:45] <bob2> shinu: and accessing http://localhost:80/ tries to save something?
[11:45] <shinu> bob2: yeah it says refused
[11:45] <bob2> shinu: that's fine then
[11:45] <family> that is what is installed when you choose the server installation
[11:46] <ebf> bob2: there are 10 pc here connected with other, i can ping them through the network tools, i want to know where or how would i see other pc in my network?
[11:46] <bob2> ebf: you haven't explained "see"
[11:46] <LadyLinux> bob2:  We have a cd ready to record and getting ready to gig,  We had problems getting a drummer until we found guitar amp with excellent drum machine.
[11:46] <shinu> bob2: so why is the other phtml file appearing?
[11:46] <bob2> ebf: do you mean "show them in the places menu"?
[11:46] <ebf> see = access the other pc
[11:46] <bob2> shinu: now you've lost me
[11:46] <ebf> yup
[11:46] <Sly> ebf , you meanm view shwred folders ?
[11:46] <bob2> ebf: access it *how*?  ssh? a web browser?
[11:46] <ompaul> family, it would be faster to install server than play with it for a week trying to find the bits you don't need - 20 minutes no thinking seems like a better idea to me
[11:47] <bob2> LadyLinux: haha, neat
[11:47] <family> it wouldn't
[11:47] <shinu> bob2: i meant that why does it tell me to download the phtml file if i access the server via lan ip
[11:47] <Sly> new keyboard hard keys = lots of typo's
[11:47] <family> apparently no one knows
[11:47] <bob2> er
[11:47] <bob2> ok
[11:47] <bob2> or you could be quiet while I type the answer out
[11:48] <aftertaf> lool bob2 :)
[11:48] <bob2> family: aptitude, go to "Installed packages" and hit M
[11:48] <bob2> family: then go down to ubuntu-base and hit + on it
[11:49] <[ubu-e] krak> hello
[11:49] <admin_> how to use the wine command
[11:49] <pef> hi
[11:49] <ebf> Sly: i mean how to view folders in other pcs of my network through linux which i am using right now?
[11:49] <bob2> admin_: what are you trying to run?
[11:49] <Sly> so view the shared folder son your networked box's
[11:49] <Sly> and they dont shwo under Places >>. network servers ?
[11:49] <admin_> its download manager
[11:49] <admin_> its filename is idman406.exe
[11:50] <LadyLinux> bob2: hope to chat with you from linux in a couple of hours.  After the files donload.
[11:50] <bob2> admin_: don't bother, there are lots of download managers in ubutnu aalready
[11:50] <ebf> Sly: where would i find the network box?
[11:50] <bob2> LadyLinux: good luck!
[11:50] <Sly> try looking under. Places >> Network Servers
[11:50] <selinium> admin_, just type wine c:/root/to/exe
[11:50] <wahlau> guys
[11:50] <wahlau> can i just submit a bug report?
[11:51] <bob2> wahlau: sure
[11:51] <thenuke> not on the channel :)
[11:51] <bob2> wahlau: unfortunately you have to sign up first
[11:51] <LadyLinux> btw, What's the best way to keep an ISP from hanging up on ya?
[11:51] <family> excellent, thank you
[11:51] <topyli> pay the bill
[11:51] <bob2> LadyLinux: they time you out after some period of inactivity?
[11:51] <ian_> LadyLinux: ping google.com
[11:52] <admin_> just want to know how to install a .exe file in linux
[11:52] <ompaul> LadyLinux, sudo ping -i 113 www.google.ie
[11:52] <[ubu-e] krak> What i should add to Repostories to download packages directry from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ??
[11:52] <wahlau> but i just want to make sure i don't make a wrong bug report
[11:53] <bob2> admin_: you can't, in general
[11:53] <admin_> ok
[11:53] <ian_> admin_: you want to install windows software in linux?
[11:53] <bob2> admin_: wine may work, but it seems silly for something so simple as a download manager
[11:53] <bob2> [ubu-e] krak: that's not how apt works
[11:53] <topyli> admin_: we do have native download managers you know
[11:53] <ompaul> LadyLinux, sorry just use  ping -i 113 www.google.ie
[11:54] <ndisy> can i install ATI drivers from synaptic?
[11:54] <wahlau> i will jsut ask around first
[11:54] <ndisy> If so, what package?
[11:54] <[ubu-e] krak> ATI just download package from ati.com wich is 56mb
[11:54] <[ubu-e] krak> but first u need to compile kernel
[11:54] <[ubu-e] krak> and for me it works
[11:55] <shinu> ok
[11:55] <selinium> If breezy runs fine from the Live cd can I install Breezy and it still be able to choose hoary in grub?
[11:55] <ndisy> so there is no easy way to go about it?
[11:55] <shinu> thanks a lot
[11:55] <shinu> gtg :)
[11:55] <bob2> ndisy: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:55] <[ubu-e] krak> for ati u can try this
[11:55] <[ubu-e] krak> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[11:55] <ndisy> thankyou bob2
[11:55] <bob2> selinium: you have a spare partition for that?
[11:55] <bob2> ndisy: that's way simpler than what [ubu-e] krak is proposing, btw
[11:55] <LadyLinux> I just pinged my ISP
[11:55] <concept10> I see 61 updates in the update manager, what is going on?!
[11:56] <ndisy> thanx...ill try it out
[11:56] <CaiN_SA> bob2, how do i change the image that usplash uses ?
[11:56] <bob2> CaiN_SA: change the initramfs, I guess
[11:56] <Bioblinse> Is here anyone how talk german please ? i have a little prob , with ubunto and my notebook
[11:56] <bob2> CaiN_SA: ls /etc/*initram* would be a start
[11:56] <bob2> Bioblinse: #ubuntu-de
[11:57] <selinium> bob2: Oh do it like that, :) I didn't know if it held the previous kernel in there still, if you see what i mean.
[11:57] <Bioblinse> thanx *g*
[11:57] <Alyone> http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!
[11:57] <Alyone> http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!
[11:57] <bob2> selinium: the kernels will be fine, yeah; but two installed systems requieres* two partitions
[11:57] <bob2> * = not really true, but chroot's will be fiddly
[11:57] <kaelisra> hms.
[11:58] <kaelisra> aftertaf, i could do with some sound help, again >.
[11:58] <kaelisra> *>.<
[11:59] <aftertaf> kaelisra:  hehe, how did i become an expert?? :D
[11:59] <guim> hi all, I am using hoary and received ISO word documents (*.doc) how do I have to open them correctly? as Hoary/openoffice seems to open them as if they were UTF8 docs? i don't know wher I am supposed to change something
[11:59] <kaelisra> since i need some of the same stuff, again
[11:59] <kaelisra> this time, i've got breezy.
[12:00] <kaelisra> and the driver works ;)
[12:00] <kaelisra> i've.. just got not sound, still.
[12:00] <aftertaf> ceck for the soundcore module, and ckeck that the mixer isnt muted...
[12:01] <kaelisra> ok. how do i do that, again? >.<
[12:01] <kaelisra> erm. wait. not muted, done that one already.
[12:02] <LadyLinux> bob2: I can't wait to get some sleep.
[12:02] <guim> any help would be appreciated
[12:03] <bob2> LadyLinux: heh; you can't let the download run over night?
[12:03] <LadyLinux> bob2: How good is Satalite internet?
[12:03] <bob2> LadyLinux: higher bandwidth than dialup, but it can be pretty expensive
[12:04] <kaelisra> ^^;;
[12:04] <claviceps> greetings
[12:04] <ndisy> just a quick question, how can i find out what kernel version i have?
[12:04] <claviceps> does ubuntu ship with X.org? and is "startx" still the command to start it?
[12:04] <godzero> satellite is for last resrt, really. even dsl has better price/performance if you can get it (I assume you live in a out-of-the-way place)
[12:04] <bob2> ndisy: uname -r
[12:04] <LadyLinux> bob2:  $200 start and $99 a month or $500 1 time purchase and $49 a month.
[12:04] <bob2> claviceps: yes, yes
[12:05] <bob2> claviceps: tho gdm starts it by default on boot
[12:05] <bob2> LadyLinux: eep
[12:05] <Mutant> I configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working
[12:05] <Mutant> I configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working
[12:05] <ndisy> thanc
[12:05] <kaelisra> aftertaf, umm... I've kinda forgotten how to do that...
[12:05] <Mutant> can somoene help me on how to setup a PDF Printer ( to print to a pdf file...)?
[12:05] <nalioth_zZz> LadyLinux: look at www.wildblue.com
[12:05] <claviceps> bob2: well, i'm troubleshooting my cousin over the net and when he boots, X doesn' tstart automaticly and startx is not found
[12:05] <LadyLinux> bob2:  It's the only high speed I can get.
[12:05] <nige> anyone know how to get x+ati drivers+dual monitors working?
[12:06] <bob2> claviceps: whoever installed it screwed up
[12:06] <bob2> claviceps: or a user got root and removed a bunch of stuff
[12:06] <bob2> nige: xinerama, the wiki has documentation for it, as does google
[12:06] <bob2> LadyLinux: ah...pretty pricey :|
[12:06] <ebf>  anybody: i want to view my network pcs here in linux, but how?
[12:06] <nige> wellI tried the xinerama it didnt work for me :(
[12:07] <nige> I just get a cloned image on my screen
[12:07] <nige> which does me no good
[12:07] <bob2> nige: "didn't work" isn't enough information for someoen to help you debug it
[12:07] <bob2> that's not xinerama
[12:07] <bob2> that's cloning
[12:07] <nige> well
[12:07] <nige> i keep ending up with the gdm being disabled..
[12:07] <Kilter> I want to put a wiki up on my ubuntu box, is there a good package with reasonable information to use?
[12:08] <bob2> Kilter: moin is pretty good and has a reasonable security record
[12:08] <admin_> how can i install wine in ubuntu
[12:08] <bob2> and doesn't take too much screweing around
[12:08] <Kilter> moin?  ok, I'll look it up.  searching for wiki howto ubuntu wasn't working in google;)
[12:08] <bob2> !+repositories
[12:08] <ubotu> I guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:08] <bob2> admin_: ^^
[12:08] <bob2> admin_: read that, then use synaptic
[12:11] <F> I installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either, I'm using the Breezy preview
[12:11] <bob2> btdownload<tab> in a shell
[12:11] <F> am I the only one having this problem
[12:11] <adaran> morning everyone
[12:11] <adaran> where do i take my question about ubuntu release cycles and such?
[12:12] <dazvid> Whats the question adaran
[12:12] <dazvid> :)
[12:12] <bob2> here...
[12:12] <adaran> well, i'm in the market for a new distro, i've been using debian for 2 years, but i've finally decided that it's not a good desktop distro, mainly because i like current software
[12:13] <deFrysk> adaran, then ubuntu is a good choice
[12:13] <dazvid> Ubuntu has a release cycle of 6 months
[12:13] <adaran> my main gripe is that i constantly have to install stuff from testing or unstable to have current software (kde 3.4, for example) which breaks old stuff with conflicting libs
[12:13] <Wilf> ubotu?
[12:13] <adaran> well, i was shooting for kubuntu, as i understand it, it's ubuntu with a few extra packages?
[12:13] <Wilf> !ubotu
[12:13] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[12:13] <nige> okay, so i scroll through to where i can see the error messages, adn on there it says:  "The X server is now disabled Restart GDM when it is configured correctly"
[12:13] <adaran> what about security updates?
[12:13] <deFrysk> adaran, ubuntu has releases every april and october
[12:14] <adaran> oh
[12:14] <adaran> should i  wait another month then? =)
[12:14] <nige> all i can do is say okay, but my keyboard now has become a garbled mess..... i am using breezy!
[12:14] <deFrysk> and security apdates are maintained properly asif you were in debian itself
[12:14] <Wilf> ubotu, moose
[12:14] <ubotu> it has been said that moose is a long haired beastie with antlers .
[12:14] <bob2> no
[12:14] <Kilter> the moinmoin-common package that comes down with apt doesn't seem to have the same information as the setup on the moinmoin help page.  is there a howto for this somewhere that anyone knows of?
[12:14] <bob2> security for ubuntu only happens for things in the "main" section
[12:14] <ompaul> adaran, there is no time like the present :)
[12:14] <LadyLinux> nalioth_zZz: Not bad.  I hope this place allows it.
[12:14] <bob2> Kilter: you'll want the moin package
[12:15] <adaran> deFrysk, i don't think theres that good security in debian, mainly because if you want current packages, they are from non-stable and get not security updates =(
[12:15] <bob2> sid gets very timely security updates
[12:15] <bob2> generally
[12:15] <bob2> if you want up to date stuff, ubuntu is not for you, either
[12:15] <adaran> i see. well, i'll give it a shot. i'm a bit reluctant because that means at least 2 days of configuring, but maybe it's time well spent
[12:15] <bob2> since that means running ubuntu's development branch, which is often more broken than sid
[12:16] <Kilter> bob2: the moin package was depreciated.
[12:16] <deFrysk> adaran, you sound more like a person who wants mandake-cooker
[12:16] <adaran> bob2, let's take kde 3.4 for example
[12:16] <deFrysk> mandriva even
[12:16] <bob2> adaran: which is in sid, no?
[12:16] <bob2> no, no one wants mandrake cooker, they want sid
[12:16] <deFrysk> bob2, jk ;p
[12:17] <adaran> bob2, yes. problem is, i also want to use kbiff, which i can't install because there's no version in sid iirc, and it depends on an old kde lib that conflicts with the new one from sid
[12:17] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I'm also going to buy Debian Sarge in a couple weeks.
[12:17] <Wilf> love
[12:17] <Wilf> ubotu, love
 this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies
[12:17] <HrdwrBoB> LadyLinux: buy?
[12:17] <bob2> adaran: right, known bug
[12:17] <adaran> bob2, well, the other alternative would be a commercial distro
[12:17] <bob2> adaran: you can trivially fix it yourself, or wait
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: fixing = apt-get source -b kbdiff ; sudo dpkg -i kbiff*.deb
[12:18] <ompaul> Wilf, stop playing with the bot /msg ubotu for your fun and games please
[12:18] <adaran> so i should use source packages? =/
[12:18] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: Unless you want to burn me a set and mail them.
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: no, if you're going to use sid, you just deal with trivial bugs like that
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: or you even find someone to upload it to sid for you, so it's fixed for everyone
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> LadyLinux: I don't have any debian isos handy since I switched to ubuntu
[12:19] <adaran> bob2, or upload to sid myself, eh? =)
[12:19] <bob2> adaran: exactly!
[12:19] <bob2> sid isn't an OS, it's a way of life
[12:19] <adaran> bob2, that's a very debianish attitude =)
[12:19] <Wilf> ubotu, ompaul
[12:19] <ubotu> Wilf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:19] <bob2> heh
[12:19] <Wilf> :(
[12:19] <bob2> I'm surprised I'm in such a good debian mood right now
[12:19] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I wish I could get all the packages I need for music software.
[12:20] <adaran> *sigh* all i wanted was something that is a.) current (as in kde 3.4, not kde 3.4.2) and b.) works
[12:20] <prolsd> hmm.
[12:20] <adaran> bob2, know any good commercial distros? if they're rpm based, but supply something like aptitude, i could warm up for that
[12:20] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I'm only dialup
[12:20] <Seveas> f00li5h, please stop adding crap to the bot
[12:20] <Seveas> !forget moose
[12:20] <ubotu> i forgot moose, Seveas
[12:21] <Seveas> !forget beastie
[12:21] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot beastie
[12:21] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I have no burner.
[12:21] <Seveas> !forget syntax
[12:21] <ubotu> i forgot syntax, Seveas
[12:21] <adaran> the worst thing is, i can't remember why i had to have kde 3.4....
[12:22] <deFrysk> adaran, I have even forgotten why i ever liked kde
[12:22] <adaran> deFrysk, me too
[12:22] <adaran> deFrysk, then i tried gnome and remembered =)
[12:23] <deFrysk> adaran, you are talking to someone whe prefers gnome
[12:23] <johnnybezak> haha don't knock the gnome
[12:23] <deFrysk> ;p
[12:23] <adaran> deFrysk, however, i've been becoming increasingly frustrated with software in general
[12:23] <deFrysk> adaran, me increasingly less actually
[12:23] <johnnybezak> adaran: go back to the abacus then :P
[12:23] <adaran> something like that
[12:23] <adaran> all i have left is buying a mac
[12:24] <adaran> trying zeta os or what it's called
[12:24] <LadyLinux> ne1 from south central US?
[12:24] <adaran> but that's end of the line =)
[12:24] <Seveas> !forget !forget
[12:24] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot !forget
[12:24] <Seveas> I hate idiots that add crap to the bot...
[12:24] <F_for_Fragging> I installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either. I'm using the Breezy preview, anyone else having this problem?
[12:25] <concept10> LadyLinux: South Central?
[12:25] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, yust use gnome-bitorrent ;)
[12:25] <selinium> F_for_Fragging, Have you tried just clicking on a torrent?
[12:25] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, its in the menu under internet
[12:25] <LadyLinux> Is there any Linux groups in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico area.
[12:26] <LadyLinux> concept10: I think that answers it.
[12:26] <concept10> LadyLinux: North Texas LUG
[12:26] <johnnybezak> is there a wireless applett in breezy
[12:26] <Seveas> yes
[12:26] <LadyLinux> concept10: You that close?
[12:26] <concept10> LadyLinux: I dont know about the other states, I live in texas
[12:26] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, I know that gnome-bittorrent is installed by default, but it lacks features, it doesn't let me cap the download and it doesn't let me select the port which bittorrent should use
[12:27] <LadyLinux> concept10: You live near Dallas?
[12:27] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, ok
[12:27] <concept10> LadyLinux: Yep
[12:27] <LadyLinux> concept10: May I msg you, Please.
[12:27] <bob2> adaran: nah, I hate the idea of not being able to fix my distro :)
[12:28] <concept10> LadyLinux: Yep.
[12:28] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, if you hit bt <tab> <tab> you have all the bt executables to look at
[12:29] <shinu> why cant my cutenews write to the news.txt file?
[12:29] <shinu> do i have to set some permissions?
[12:31] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thank you. Just tried that, but the right executable doesn't seem to be installed
[12:31] <reter> hello.
[12:31] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments>
[12:31] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments> <url>
[12:32] <kai_> At ubuntuguide.org i read that you can make computer_icon_visible to show the icon at the desktop. But how do i get it "checked", the only thing i can do are add a key....?
[12:32] <reter> i switched to breezy and now i have 700 files that needs to be upgraded but everytime i try to upgrade and when it gets to the end all these error messages appear and it ends up not upgrading the files..what do i do?
[12:32] <Wilf> ubotu, quit?
[12:32] <ubotu> /quit
[12:32] <Wilf> >:(
[12:32] <adaran> bob2, i tried the kbiff thing too
[12:32] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thank you. But there is no graphical frontend to bittorrent which I can start? It only works from the terminal?
[12:32] <adaran> bob2, 16 packages upgraded, 55 newly installed just to get the development files =)
[12:33] <CaiN_SA> reter, sudo apt-get distupgrade :)
[12:33] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, alt-f2 and hit your desired command
[12:33] <kai_> anyone know how to make the desktop icons show?
[12:33] <kaelisra> hmm...
[12:34] <kaelisra> i need some help with my sound >.<
[12:34] <Madpilot> kai_: right click on the desktop, select Create Launcher
[12:34] <reter> CaiN_SA, invalid operation
[12:34] <boxerboy> default ubuntu might have a trash icon and thats it you have to make rest
[12:34] <CaiN_SA> reter, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[12:35] <kai_> Madpilot, and? i want the home and computer icon to show...
[12:35] <kaelisra> i can't seem to get it to work, atm, its not muted, i know that much, and i've got a working driver, appearantly.
[12:35] <Madpilot> kai_: this isn't Windows - look under the Places menu for that stuff
[12:35] <claviceps> hahahaha
[12:35] <deFrysk> kai_, apt-get install gtweakui and set your desired settings
[12:35] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thanks for your help, but if both bittorrent-gui and gnome-bittorrent don't work for me, I think I'll go back to Azureus
[12:36] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, if you have a fast pc , why not ?
[12:36] <tech_> hallow rooM
[12:36] <reter> cain, what does that do? what is the difference between that and regular upgrade
[12:37] <johnnybezak> bam breezy packages finished downloading, now its install reboot and pray
[12:37] <tech_> Dear all am the new Obuntu user
[12:37] <boxerboy> there was an easier way instead of downloading it
[12:37] <deFrysk> <--agnostic
[12:37] <holycow> johnnybezak, you should be okaay, i installed via iso
[12:37] <tech_> i decided to shift from windows to linux
[12:37] <concept10> johnnybezak: come back here and tell me how it went
[12:37] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, my PC can handle Azureus, but I don't like it because it suffers from bloat and featuritis, unfortunately it's my only choice since Azureus has decent UPnP functionality
[12:38] <holycow> tech_, welcome
[12:38] <johnnybezak> concept10: haha sure got nothing better to do
[12:38] <dazvid> I like Azureus :)
[12:38] <holycow> tech_, how long have you been using linux?
[12:38] <boxerboy> welcome to the working os
[12:38] <tech_> thanks holycow
[12:38] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, I agree for some part
[12:38] <concept10> F_for_Fragging: try disabling the distributed database
[12:38] <reter> why is breezy better than hoary?
[12:38] <tech_> three month now
[12:38] <johnnybezak> i wish you could get a net install of ubuntu
[12:38] <godzero> Azureus caused BIG memory leaks for me under Kubuntu HH (like 1GB!)
[12:38] <johnnybezak> then i could get debian off my little server
[12:39] <holycow> reter, it's not, its still dev and lots of things to be fixed
[12:39] <boxerboy> everything is upgraded (most)
[12:39] <LadyLinux9> concept10: I was diconnected.
[12:39] <bimberi> kai_, Applications -> System Tools -> Configuratoin Editor, apps -> nautilus -> desktop (computer_icon_visible, home_icon_visible)
[12:39] <deFrysk> reter, because ubuntu aims to improve
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> I'm behind a router so Azureus is my only choice, bittorrent-gnome is simply to limited and bittorrent-gui is flawed as well
[12:39] <tech_> but am a beginner
[12:39] <concept10> LadyLinux: oh, okay. I wondered what happened to you
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> Linux sucks so much for bittorrent users
[12:39] <deFrysk> its not ubuntus policy to make things worse
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> but thanks for your help deFrysk
[12:39] <boxerboy> i use gnome bittorrent
[12:39] <boxerboy> i have a router
[12:39] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, how so? you have auzereus available.  what is the issue?
[12:40] <LadyLinux9> concept10: I was in the middle of a dl and had to start over.
[12:40] <F_for_Fragging> holycow, it's not in the breezy repo yet
[12:40] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, its a java ip
[12:40] <holycow> app
[12:40] <deFrysk> holycow, java apps suck like black holes
[12:40] <holycow> it has no reason to be in a repo
[12:40] <holycow> just download and run after you have installed 1.5 jre
[12:40] <concept10> LadyLinux: what distro do you need?
[12:40] <holycow> i don't see the issue?
[12:40] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, you mean that gnome-bittorrent has no problem with your router?
[12:40] <boxerboy> not 1 bit
[12:41] <holycow> deFrysk, hehe i like java, i avoid it but the jre's are improving in performance
[12:41] <F_for_Fragging> yes, it's very unfortunate that azureus uses java...
[12:41] <kaelisra> ^^;;;
[12:41] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, mine doesn't at all
[12:41] <LadyLinux9> concept10: May I chat pvt again please?
[12:41] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, it's not unfortunate at all, if it didn't you wouldn't be using it on linux or osx
[12:41] <boxerboy> do you have the firewall set in your router?
[12:41] <holycow> its actually a really decent implementation
[12:41] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I'll give gnome-bt another try then, thanks
[12:41] <holycow> people just love to hate java for no particular reason
[12:42] <boxerboy> yw
[12:42] <F_for_Fragging> no, no firewall
[12:42] <concept10> LadyLinux: yes
[12:42] <F_for_Fragging> but i assume i should forward port 6881 for bt, right?
[12:42] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, without open source torrents would have never existed dont forget that ;)
[12:42] <boxerboy> ok heres something i didnt like on colony 3 my gnome bittorrent works great on colony 4 nothing works right
[12:43] <F_for_Fragging> yes, but what I meant was that I'm a bit disappointed with the bittorrent apps for linux
[12:43] <holycow> deFrysk, exactly
[12:43] <ds[de] > deFrysk: how so?
[12:43] <johnnybezak> many of you guys use evolution>?
[12:43] <deFrysk> how so what ?
[12:43] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, but you do need to have port 6881 forwarded right?
[12:43] <ds[de] > how without o.s. torrents would have never existed
[12:44] <markrian> Evolution uses the wrong locale (en-us, as opposed to what I want, en-gb) no matter what I do. All other programs obey locale settings, except Evolution. I've even tried creating a new user (i.e., completely fresh settings), but the problem remains
[12:44] <deFrysk> ds[de] , bittorrent is an open source project
[12:44] <boxerboy> i didnt have to screw with the ports
[12:44] <Sly> markian im uk too, mine works fine =\
[12:44] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, ok then I'll try, thx
[12:44] <boxerboy> yw
[12:44] <ds[de] > boxerboy: i see
[12:44] <markrian> Sly, I know, there's something funny with my configuration somewhere
[12:45] <markrian> And I cannot for the life of me work out what
[12:45] <Sly> :(
[12:45] <boxerboy> you have all of ur repos right? or just the default ones?
[12:45] <Sly> well i best go iron all my stuff i want for college :( ,
[12:45] <boxerboy> if you set the multi unuverse ones there is an update for gnome torrent
[12:46] <boxerboy> universe
[12:47] <waxhead> hi everyone
[12:47] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I'm using the breezy preview, so I'l probably have the latest version
[12:47] <boxerboy> u still have to set the repos
[12:48] <waxhead> how stable is breezy?
[12:48] <z|bandito> root      5552  0.0  0.1   1552   216 ?        Ss   Sep08   0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[12:48] <boxerboy> im using breezy also
[12:48] <z|bandito> root      5771  6.8 18.0  44444 22760 ?        S    Sep08 406:33 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[12:48] <z|bandito> what are those?
[12:48] <waxhead> is it worth the risk to upgrade to now?
[12:48] <boxerboy> repositories
[12:48] <kai_> When i try to play a audio cd, its plays with bad sound and fragmented, what can i do to correct this?
[12:48] <F_for_Fragging> waxhead, I'm using the breezy preview release right now and I haven't had a single crash
[12:49] <z|bandito> kai you can try different audio settings under the options and multimedia
[12:49] <boxerboy> if you go to ubuntu upgarder and click on settings and check all the boxes in there you will see lil boxes next to each repo check all
[12:49] <waxhead> F_for_Fragging, it's not so much the crashing as hte package breakage
[12:49] <kai_> z|bandito, where??
[12:49] <rambo3> do i need an extra server in sources.list to get afterstep ?
[12:49] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btw , azureus can be easily locally installed, no deb needed
[12:49] <z|bandito> do you guys see similar processes if you do ps aux | grep root ?
[12:49] <kai_> mp3/ogg plays perfect
[12:50] <z|bandito> oh, i dunno, don't have gnome in front of me, i think it's system -> multimedia and sound settings
[12:50] <z|bandito> or seomthing
[12:50] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I have version 0.0.18
[12:50] <boxerboy> than for muti universe you go to www.ubuntuguide.org and u have to add lines in the folder it shows you how to do it in the add extra repos section of the guide
[12:50] <cevizoglu> sudo poweroff
[12:50] <z|bandito> but when i have the problem, i can't play netradio or anything.. though gnome ui sounds are ok
[12:50] <waxhead> where's the package list for the different versions located?
[12:50] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, I know, but I'd like to use the repositories
[12:50] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, stay out of ubuntuguid btw
[12:51] <kai_> hm i have to make cd playback work!
[12:51] <boxerboy> why it works great for me
[12:51] <deFrysk> boxerboy, good for you but its a bad/poor resource
[12:51] <F_for_Fragging> currently downloading a torrent with gnome-btdownload, but it doesn't go higher than 3 KB/s >*
[12:51] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[12:51] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:52] <boxerboy> oh ok see i didnt know that
[12:52] <boxerboy> thank you
[12:53] <boxerboy> when is breezy set for release??
[12:53] <deFrysk> oct 13
[12:53] <boxerboy> these are still betas no?
[12:53] <holycow> have you guys ever noticed that sometimes you do a software update via gui and there are no updates, then you apt-get update and all of a sudden there are tons?
[12:53] <boxerboy> ok
[12:53] <deFrysk> boxerboy, releses are always in april and oct.
[12:54] <boxerboy> oh cool ok ty
[12:54] <ReoJan> hello
[12:54] <waxhead> holycow, yeah, just noticed that myself
[12:54] <boxerboy> brb im gonna try that
[12:54] <ebf> to anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:54] <waxhead> I'm wondering if the update manager works right
[12:54] <holycow> i'm thinking its time to post a bug
[12:54] <deFrysk> update manager is set to check once a day
[12:55] <ompaul> waxhead, why would you think it does not?
[12:55] <deFrysk> not 100 times a day
[12:55] <holycow> deFrysk, when you start it up manually it doesn't download updates?
[12:55] <holycow> it sure looks like it does
[12:55] <waxhead> ompaul, because I've been using the update manage, nothing to update, I run synaptic, update the list, and then quit... check the updates and there are zillions...
[12:56] <deFrysk> holycow, it does it once a day , on my box in the morning
[12:56] <ebf> to anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:56] <waxhead> ompaul, but it could just be coincidence that this is the case.
[12:56] <holycow> deFrysk, thats fine, but when you start it up manually, it says downloading updated info or similar
[12:56] <boxerboy> my apt-get updates dont work
[12:56] <holycow> it clearly isn't downloading anything
[12:56] <boxerboy> with and without sudo
[12:56] <ompaul> waxhead, synaptic does a query when you start it - your timing on update manager may be a lot later today :)
[12:56] <ReoJan> can i install window games on my ubuntu OS?
[12:57] <Sly> apt-get updates or spt-get update
[12:57] <Sly> ?
[12:57] <deFrysk> holycow, if you would reboot now you'd see it wil not do that again
[12:57] <waxhead> apt-get update
[12:57] <Stalwart> ReoJan, use wine or cedega
[12:57] <boxerboy> apt-get
[12:57] <holycow> deFrysk, sure that still doesn't answer my question tho
[12:57] <Sly-College> i was talking to boxerboy asking if he was typing updates
[12:57] <ompaul> ReoJan, in some cases yes in some cases not using the tools Stalwart names
[12:57] <waxhead> Sly-College, then apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <Sly-College> and ifso take the s off :)
[12:57] <ReoJan> i use wine and cedega, but my games doesnt work
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$ apt-get updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> E: Invalid operation updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$ sudo apt-get updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> Password:
[12:57] <boxerboy> E: Invalid operation updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$
[12:57] <deFrysk> holycow, what question ?
[12:57] <Sly-College> boxer boy
[12:57] <boxerboy> thats the output
[12:57] <Sly-College> its update not updates
[12:57] <holycow> *sigh*
[12:57] <holycow> nm
[12:57] <ebf> sly: where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:58] <ompaul> waxhead, if you had apt-get update it would have kicked your update manager
[12:58] <ompaul> boxerboy, when you want to flood do paste.ubuntulinux.nl not in the channel
[12:58] <Sly-College> thanx anyway wazhead :)
[12:58] <Sly-College> wax*
[12:59] <boxerboy> oh ok sorry
[12:59] <ompaul> boxerboy, and u must use sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <boxerboy> i did both
[12:59] <ebf> Sly-College:  where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:59] <boxerboy> i just did sudo apt-get upgrade and it showed 0
[12:59] <Sly-College> boxerboy , so your saying sudo apt-get update odnt work either
[12:59] <ompaul> boxerboy, you have an _S_ at the end of the word it is  updatE all lower case
[01:00] <Sly-College> ebf , its not glzgears its some info about your graphics you want to grep to find direct rendering yes/no
[01:00] <aftertaf> anyone help me with debootstrap...?
[01:00] <Sly-College> dunno what tho
[01:00] <ebf> yup
[01:00] <aftertaf> i'm behind a http proxy, ive set proxy settings in wgetrc and in environment, but failing to get package...
[01:00] <boxerboy> ack theres a crap load of them
[01:00] <ompaul> as one ozzie said this morning it is simple when you know how, but when you first try it, it seems so hard,
[01:00] <Sly-College> ebf , cant remember for the life of me what :(
[01:01] <boxerboy> it looks like there were 21
[01:02] <ompaul> boxerboy, and some days nothing
[01:02] <boxerboy> is it the update manger has a bug?
[01:03] <reiki> when I click on a .wmv file on a website, I am only given the choice to open it with Totem. I installed mplayer and it works, however mplayer doesn't show up in the list of apps offerred to open the file. How can I fix that?
[01:03] <ompaul> boxerboy, no - it was not its time to check - it checks once a day
[01:03] <boxerboy> oh ok
[01:04] <boxerboy> it seems they update faster doing it that way anyway
[01:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: The combobox that has totem has an item where you can choose the application. Choose mplayer there.
[01:04] <Sly-College> has anyone completed neverball ?
[01:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: From that point, mplayer will always be there, and you can make it the default somewhere in the preferences.
[01:05] <boxerboy> has anyone else noticed problems with gaim in breezy yet?
[01:05] <snorks|school> lal
[01:05] <kai_> i cant play or rip a audiocd (it sounds just bad), can it have something to do with dma settings?
[01:05] <reiki> Tomcat_, I chose mplayer, checked the box that says, "Do this all the time" and next time I click a wmv file I have to chose all over again. MPlayer isn't in the list (combobox)
[01:07] <Sly-College> im out
[01:07] <godzero> kai_ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[01:07] <kai_> godzero, have done that
[01:09] <kai_> hm i cant start toem either, but rhytmebox are working ok
[01:09] <Somada142> hi, does anyone know if there is a program similar to ACDSEE for ubuntu?
[01:10] <Somada142> in order to browse trough pictures in a folder?
[01:10] <deFrysk> Somada142, gthumb
[01:11] <aftertaf> Somada142:  kde has a picture previewer, gnome must have too... tried a right click in nautilus?
[01:11] <Somada142> the built-in program opens one at a time so i'll try gthumb
[01:11] <godzero> kai_: can you play a wav from harddrive w/o clipping, etc
[01:12] <Wilf> ubotu?
[01:12] <deFrysk> Somada142, should do the trick :)
[01:12] <holycow> what is the name of the other ubuntu help site other than wiki.ubuntu.com?  it was unrelated to the project it self but had great how to's
[01:12] <kai_> godzero, yes
[01:12] <deFrysk> holycow, that one is unmentioned here and unreliable
[01:12] <kai_> mp3/ogg/wav from HD works
[01:12] <holycow> okay
[01:13] <godzero> kai_: set read speed lower
[01:13] <Somada142> isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?
[01:13] <johnnybezak> haha the suspense of waiting for all the packages to install on my breezy update is killing me
[01:14] <bob2> Somada142: depends on your hardware
[01:14] <kai_> godzero, i cant copy wavs from cd to hd neighter. How do i set the readspeed lower?
[01:14] <Somada142> i have a on board sound card on my gigabyte mb
[01:14] <boxerboy> is that breezy hot-to guide gonna be out before the release by some chance?
[01:14] <boxerboy> how-to*
[01:15] <godzero> hrm, I'm in knoppix right now; which player are you using?
[01:16] <Somada142> i tried both totem,ruthmbox and they use only 3 speakers
[01:16] <Somada142> they don't use the 2 rear speakers
[01:16] <Somada142> rythmbox*
[01:16] <samu2> did something big happen? there are 53 updates available all of a sudden
[01:16] <Somada142> breezy preview
[01:16] <holycow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53050&highlight=mythtv  <-- okay this is nifty
[01:17] <boxerboy> when was last time you updated it?
[01:17] <Somada142> what are the updates breezy introdues?
[01:17] <Somada142> damn ..introduces*
[01:17] <johnnybezak> Somada142: loads of them
[01:17] <samu2> i update whenever possible
[01:18] <Somada142> like?
[01:18] <Frafra> hi all
[01:18] <Somada142> should i wait for the final or should i update now?
[01:18] <fooboy> is ubuntu for n00bs
[01:18] <johnnybezak> Somada142: like loads of updated packages, new gnome
[01:18] <Smoking_n00b> can i use midnight commander with ubuntu, i installed it with synaptic but i am unable to launch midnight commander
[01:18] <johnnybezak> foob: what do you mean?
[01:19] <johnnybezak> fooboy: like linspire do you mean?
[01:19] <Frafra> i can't install vlc on breezy (it need dbus and libhal, but it can't install those). what i must do?
[01:19] <fooboy> i dunno
[01:19] <fooboy> like suse
[01:20] <fooboy> i like ubuntu
[01:20] <Smoking_n00b> <my opinion> i have ercently installed and played with suse,debian,ubuntu,vector. i think ubuntu is the most n00b friendly
[01:20] <johnnybezak> fooboy: well its different to suse. it uses gnome by default, but it's not harder than suse. it recognises hardware well software updates installation is good
[01:20] <fooboy> sometimes it seems a bit restrictive
[01:20] <johnnybezak> fooboy: in what way?
[01:21] <Frafra> can i install vlc on breezy?
[01:21] <fooboy> just
[01:21] <fooboy> in the default install
[01:22] <johnnybezak> Frafra: i don't see why not
[01:22] <fooboy> but it is easy to use
[01:23] <johnnybezak> fooboy: ok i just don't get how it's restrictive, it has a *huge* amount of packages you can install
[01:23] <Frafra> johnnybezak: sudo apt-get install vlc doesn't works
[01:23] <Frafra> it need dbus and libhal, but it can't install they
[01:23] <fooboy> yeah
[01:23] <fooboy> can u get a KDE desktop
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> fresh install of ubuntu, i dont remember it asking for a root user/password, i only created one user. how do i become root?
[01:24] <johnnybezak> Frafra: when did you last do an update
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> !rootsuso
[01:24] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: No idea
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> !rootsudo
[01:24] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:24] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:24] <johnnybezak> Smoking_n00b: to execute commands with root type sudo commandname
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 thanks
[01:24] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: the installer explained this and made you hit 'enter' at one point...
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> i was pretty tired when i installed ubuntu :)
[01:24] <fooboy> i could type sudo passwd
[01:25] <fooboy> a set the root password
[01:25] <Frafra> johnnybezak: 1 min ago
[01:25] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, i installed konsole from synaptic, but cant seem to launch it or find it, any ideas?
[01:25] <holycow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&page=1&pp=10&highlight=mythtv  <-- neat
[01:26] <holycow> note to noobs: make sure you backup your xorg.conf file if you try the stuff in the post
[01:27] <Somada142> Question : isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?, I've tried both totem.rythmbox and even when i set the sound to 5.1 from totem's options it still's uses only 3 speakers
[01:27] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: alt-f2 konsole <enter>
[01:27] <boxerboy> wait did i read that right if i type in sudo -s i dont have to type sudo before each command?
[01:27] <bob2> Somada142: depends on your hardware
[01:27] <bob2> boxerboy: yes
[01:28] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 thank you :)
[01:28] <boxerboy> thank you that sudo b4 each command was getting kinda old
[01:28] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: you can use the menu editor "smeg" to put it in the menu if you like
[01:28] <wedgeV> how do i get the restricged formats stuff for breezy?
[01:28] <fooboy> is their anyway to get an X-nested terminal in ubuntu
[01:29] <bob2> sure
[01:29] <bob2> Xnest
[01:29] <bob2> maybe Xephyr is in breezy, too
[01:29] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, it launched konsole, but i am used to typing MC to get midnight commander. this didnt work ,what have i done wrong?
[01:29] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: did you install mc?
[01:30] <ishit> i installed skype n its not oppening
[01:30] <Wermut> How can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.
[01:30] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 ,no. i thought it was a part of konsole, i installed konsole
[01:30] <ishit> any help plz
[01:30] <godzero> kai_: example: xmms, options, audio i/o plug tab, audio cd reader from list, configure, output tab, cdrom speed
[01:30] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: no, midnight commander is another program that existed for about ten years before konsole did
[01:30] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: install "mc" with your packagemananegemtn tool of choice
[01:31] <bob2> ishit: you need to be more specific
[01:31] <ishit> i got an error:error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:31] <aftertaf> ishit:  probably have to pay now ;)
[01:31] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, thanks , i will try to do that.
[01:31] <ishit> this is the error - -error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:32] <ishit> wat do i do
[01:32] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102
[01:32] <SpongeLinux> can anyone help me to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:32] <ishit> k ill try jus a sec
[01:32] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, i search in synaptic package manager for midnight commander, it only finds the konsole that i installed earlier. is there another search place i can use with synaptic?
[01:33] <wedgeV> where is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?
[01:33] <SpongeLinux> can anyone help me i want to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:33] <bob2> !+repositories
[01:33] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:33] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: ^^
[01:33] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: it's in universe in the package called "mc"
[01:33] <Somada142> Anyone kows anything about gnomebaker?
[01:33] <ishit> no bob it did not work
[01:33] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, thanks again
[01:34] <SpongeLinux> can anyone know how to install it
[01:34] <bob2> SpongeLinux: what is it?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: "did not work" is useless
[01:34] <godzero> kai_:?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: paste the error to #flood or give up
[01:34] <SpongeLinux> i want to install this filename emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:34] <ishit> then??
[01:34] <reiki> hmmm... ok I have serious problems with the mplayer plugin for firefox. It crashes firefox :)  Sometimes. Othertimes it gives me sound and no video or other times nothing at all
[01:34] <bob2> SpongeLinux: and what on earth is it?
[01:34] <Smoking_n00b> how do i copy text from the xchat window?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: read what I said
[01:34] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: select, middle click to paste it
[01:34] <Smoking_n00b> :)
[01:34] <ishit>  #flood
[01:35] <kai_> godzero, i do not use xmms....
[01:35] <SpongeLinux> its a media player for linux
[01:35] <wedgeV> no one knows?
[01:35] <ishit> wats  #flood
[01:35] <godzero> kai_: what do you use?
[01:35] <kai_> rhytmbox, and gnome cd player for cds
[01:35] <aftertaf> ishit:  join #flood, its a channel
[01:35] <bob2> ishit: an IRC channel
[01:36] <johnnybezak> ishit: for putting large amounts of crap in there that would spam a normal channel
[01:36] <onkarshinde> How can one propose any application to be included in universe repository?
[01:36] <nemptor> hello everybody!
[01:36] <wedgeV> where is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?
[01:36] <nemptor> i want to ask something, about cedega?
[01:37] <Lipsanteri> Hi! Which file system type should i use with ubuntu, ext2 or ext3?
[01:37] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: what do you want to get packaged
[01:37] <onkarshinde> Lipsanteri: ext3
[01:37] <bob2> onkarshinde: wiki/MOTU
[01:37] <hhurtta> Lipsanteri: ext3 or reiserfs
[01:37] <bob2> Lipsanteri: ext3
[01:37] <Lipsanteri> ok, thanks :)
[01:37] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install
[01:37] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt
[01:38] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: I was hoping that SeaMonkey alpha (now community managed Mozilla Suite) will make to universe before Breezy release.
[01:38] <ishit> k bob ill try
[01:38] <ishit> jus sec
[01:38] <onkarshinde> bob2: On exactly which page?
[01:38] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: ah ok
[01:38] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, why are some software sources disabled by default?
[01:38] <bob2> onkarshinde: dunno, ask them: #ubuntu-motu
[01:39] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: because people should know they're going to install unsupported or non-free crap before selecting it in synaptic
[01:39] <uberBRAT> hello people
[01:39] <Smoking_n00b> OH!
[01:39] <uberBRAT> i can't get ubuntu to connect to the internet using my adsl modem
[01:39] <uberBRAT> adsl-start doesn't work
[01:39] <ishit> no luck bob
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102
[01:40] <bob2> and god skype is shit
[01:40] <bob2> uberBRAT: pon dsl-provider
[01:40] <uberBRAT> bob2: what?
[01:40] <ompaul> bob2, tell e-bay :)
[01:40] <bob2> uberBRAT: assuming you used pppoeconf to configure it
[01:40] <ishit> even k3b has the same error
[01:40] <messiahs> hi
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: then stop installing junk from outside ubuntu
[01:40] <messiahs> i have a quetion
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: or someone has toasted your disk
[01:40] <ishit> hehe
[01:40] <bob2> k3b is in ubuntu, anyway
[01:40] <bob2> you have no excuse, there
[01:41] <ishit> everytime i instal ubuntu it does not instal properly
[01:41] <johnnybezak> messiahs: shoot
[01:41] <SoleKiller> umm guys
[01:41] <bob2> ishit: then perhaps your disk is screwed
[01:41] <messiahs> i have a ubuntu hoary in my PC
[01:41] <ishit> its a brand new disk
[01:41] <SoleKiller> can i get some help?
[01:41] <messiahs> and i want update to breezy
[01:42] <bob2> SoleKiller: perhaps if you ask a question...
[01:42] <SoleKiller> lol
[01:42] <ompaul> !tell SoleKiller about ask
[01:42] <ishit> n anyways i tried wit another disk
[01:42] <bob2> messiahs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:42] <johnnybezak> messiahs: a hedge hog in your computer that sounds nasty ;)
[01:43] <ishit> bob: is my motherboard incompatible
[01:43] <SoleKiller> okok
[01:43] <SoleKiller> i think im ready
[01:43] <bob2> ishit: I doubt that
[01:43] <ishit> cause its only wit my machine
[01:44] <ompaul> ishit, please change your nick its crap
[01:44] <messiahs> thanks
[01:44] <SoleKiller> i treid to iinstall kubuntu on a p1 and the xorg thingie didnt run maybe coz i dont have enough ram or my crad is not good enough 4 kde
[01:44] <SoleKiller> anyways
[01:44] <SoleKiller> is there a distro you know will work on most pcs from that age?
[01:44] <SoleKiller> maybe the old kern?
[01:44] <ishit> bob: its a new system
[01:44] <bob2> so	"that age"?
[01:44] <bob2> aren't you going to tell us about your computer first?
[01:44] <ishit> ompaul: shut up jackass
[01:45] <SoleKiller> humz
[01:45] <SoleKiller> well
[01:45] <SoleKiller> thought i should
[01:45] <ishit> wat do i do bob
[01:45] <johnnybezak> everybody lets chill out and spread the ubuntu
[01:45] <bob2> ompaul: ishit stop it
[01:45] <bob2> and please do try to use English in here
[01:45] <SoleKiller> oh no one talks to me lol
[01:45] <SoleKiller> ill shutup
[01:46] <bob2> SoleKiller: you haven't actually told us about your machine
[01:46] <ishit> hey bob is there any other version of ubuntu
[01:46] <bob2> KDE is not really suitable for a pentium one, tho
[01:46] <SoleKiller> humz
[01:46] <SoleKiller> thats the basic prob
[01:46] <bob2> and you need 48MB of ram to actually install
[01:46] <SoleKiller> i have it for so long
[01:46] <SoleKiller> i forgot its info
[01:46] <SoleKiller> got any of those cool lil progs that tells ya shit
[01:46] <SoleKiller> about the pc
[01:46] <bob2> that won't help
[01:46] <SoleKiller> ?
[01:46] <SoleKiller> like that miranda?
[01:46] <bob2> no
[01:46] <bob2> it doesn't matter
[01:47] <SoleKiller> well
[01:47] <SoleKiller> i got 64 ram
[01:47] <ishit> bob: then wat do i do
[01:47] <ishit> bob: i need k3b
[01:47] <bob2> ishit: "wat" is not a word
[01:47] <bob2> and stop going on and on at me
[01:47] <bloodnik> How does one uninstall something installed from source?
[01:47] <bob2> if your ubuntu install is broken, it's either your fault or bad hardware
[01:47] <bob2> try burning the CD again and actually checking it first
[01:47] <bob2> bloodnik: make uninstall may work
[01:48] <bob2> bloodnik: generally you install things to a specific dir (e.g. /usr/local/blah/) for this reason
[01:48] <aftertaf> anyone help with chroot problem?
[01:48] <SoleKiller> the install is ok
[01:48] <SoleKiller> the disk is fine
[01:48] <ishit> bob: looks like i gotta dump ubuntu
[01:48] <concept10> bob2: this girl told me she plays football
[01:48] <aftertaf> error:    sudo: unable to lookup dell-laptop via gethostbyname()
[01:48] <bob2> ishit: oh well, good luck with whatever else
[01:48] <bloodnik> I did make install. Guess I should have thought of make uninstall :p
[01:48] <reiki> my wireless mouse is dying... batteries... dang it.... shutting down for work anyways, so see y'all later
[01:48] <bloodnik> kthxbai
[01:48] <bob2> aftertaf: fix /etc/hosts
[01:48] <ishit> bob: cause wat cus b the prob
[01:49] <bob2> ishit: "cus" is not a word either
[01:49] <Smoking_n00b> lol
[01:49] <bob2> ishit: good luck with whatever OS you try in the future
[01:49] <aftertaf> on main system or debootstapped system?
[01:49] <bob2> aftertaf: it has to resolve on both
[01:49] <aftertaf> hehe ok.
[01:49] <Somada142> bob2
[01:49] <ishit> bob: but i like ubuntu. Its just if i can get things right
[01:49] <Lipsanteri> and another question: Partition magic is asking "would create a swap partition?" what does that mean and shoul i do it?
[01:49] <Somada142> don't be so picky
[01:49] <bob2> starting lines with my nick and no other text is shockingly annoying
[01:50] <bob2> Lipsanteri: you mean the installer?
[01:50] <Somada142> sorry i pressed Enter by mistake
[01:50] <Lipsanteri> "create linux swap partition?"
[01:50] <ishit> bob2: hey is there a way out of this
[01:50] <bob2> after a thousand mispellings of "because", your eyes will bleed too
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: probably
[01:50] <infinito> i can't delete a file using rm, any idea?
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: try asking on the user list
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: define "can;t"
[01:50] <bob2> infinito: ^
[01:50] <bob2> ie show us the error
[01:50] <infinito> the fiel is screwd by a fs problem...
[01:50] <ompaul> SoleKiller, perhaps try the server install but I doubt if there is a wm that would treat that hardware right - some disto that keeps track of an old kernel might work, but don't ask me to name one, I don't track any of them
[01:51] <bob2> infinito: probably nothing you can do then
[01:51] <ishit> bob2: or should i try breezy
[01:51] <bob2> 21:50:45           bob2 | ishit: try asking on the user list
[01:51] <SoleKiller> because because because the wizard of ozz
[01:51] <infinito> bob2: but it's the laptop-mode binary... i need to removeit to install again...
[01:51] <ishit> bob2: how
[01:51] <bob2> and making threats of leaving ubuntu is stupid
[01:51] <bob2> no one cares what you use
[01:51] <SoleKiller> Because!!!!
[01:52] <bob2> infinito: if your disk is screwed, how will that help?
[01:52] <infinito> no, just that file after a fsck.ext3
[01:52] <SoleKiller> the question is why will it help
[01:52] <ishit> bob2: i tried kubuntu and had the same probs
[01:52] <ompaul> SoleKiller, one of the problems that you might face is if choose to do that is if the kernel gets 'unsupported'
[01:52] <SoleKiller> and the answer is
[01:52] <bob2> ishit: then ask on the list already
[01:52] <SoleKiller> because!
[01:52] <vu> Anybody running Ubuntu under Vmware 5.5?
[01:52] <ompaul> SoleKiller, take the singing to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:53] <SoleKiller> lol
[01:53] <Lipsanteri> This thing is saying "A linux swap partition is recommended for a linux installation. you will get better performance blaablaablaa... Would you like to create a swap partition now?" Yes or no? :)
[01:53] <ishit> bob2: wat list
[01:53] <ompaul> Lipsanteri, the answer is yes
[01:53] <aftertaf> Lipsanteri:  yes
[01:53] <holycow> http://www.abarbaccia.com/  <-- oh thats nice
[01:53] <ishit> bob: k bye
[01:53] <ompaul> Lipsanteri, the size is around twice the amount of ram you have up to about 2G (if you ever need to use that much you are in trouble :))
[01:54] <pl_ice> hi
[01:54] <Lipsanteri> ok :)
[01:54] <Lipsanteri> ok, i'm a beginner with these things so try to understand :D
[01:54] <aftertaf> shame....
[01:55] <johnnybezak> alright guys wish me luck, i'm going to reboot into breezy
[01:55] <aftertaf> Lipsanteri:  we all start somewhere...don't worry
[01:55] <aftertaf> johnnybezak:  good luck....
[01:55] <rambo3> sudo rebooot
[01:55] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Best luck
[01:55] <alpinemike> wow
[01:55] <alpinemike> where are we all from?
[01:55] <Sly-College> Ukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:55] <Smoking_n00b> in repositories, what is the difference between binary and source
[01:56] <rambo3> just fixed my afterstepbuntu
[01:56] <pl_ice> anyone knows when i use cfdisk, which partition is for fat 32 , so that when i format xp will see it? i tried fat32 LBA(c1) xp didn't see
[01:56] <Smoking_n00b> which should i select?
[01:56] <hhurtta> Smoking_n00b: binary
[01:56] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta: thanks
[01:56] <hhurtta> source installs source packages for you to compile
[01:56] <Whistler> hello
[01:57] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta: so binaries are already compiled?
[01:57] <hhurtta> yes
[01:57] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta, thanks
[01:57] <hhurtta> np
[01:57] <CaiN_SA> thats why they are binaries :/
[01:57] <infinito> any idea if howto change permissions to this file:
[01:57] <infinito> ?-wsr-x-wx  255 1881165200 1918959679 1313429331 1970-01-01 01:00 laptop-mode
[01:58] <hhurtta> CaiN_SA: concept of binary is not clear to everyone
[01:58] <thenuke> infinito: with chmod?
[01:58] <aftertaf> infinito:  chmod.
[01:58] <Somada142> i have a rather meaningless question : can you all do the stuff in ubuntu as well as you did in Windows?
[01:58] <infinito> aftertaf, thenuke: i've got "operation not permited" and i'm root
[01:58] <aftertaf> Somada142:  better
[01:59] <Somada142> really?
[01:59] <thenuke> infinito: if you have problems chmodding that file or something, please then ask about it and not about how to change permissions generally ;)
[01:59] <fobia> hey anyone help i got this error: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <aftertaf> whatis laptop-mode and where
[01:59] <aftertaf> fobia:  breezy or hoary, your ubuntu version?
[01:59] <fluffybunny_> i have an error message on shut down: Fail: Deactivating swap....  is this bad and if so, how can i fix it?
[01:59] <fluffybunny_> aside: is there a website detailing how breezy is improved vs hoary?
[01:59] <dade`> know bug with xorg and keyboard on breezy ?
[01:59] <henrym> Somada142, better for me too, except games, but I didn't really play games before anyway
[01:59] <infinito> thenuke, aftertaf : im sorry. that file got screwed after fsck.ext3, i need to reinstall this binary, but ccan't get rid of the bad one
[01:59] <dade`> it's about 4 days it does not work
[01:59] <Slike> Somada142: just give it a try and you'll see :-) I don't miss a thing
[01:59] <samu2> id like to see a site with changes too
[01:59] <fobia> aftertaf: hoary
[02:00] <Somada142> yap that's a problem for me too
[02:00] <deFrysk> Somada142, exept for being ripped of you can do about the same
[02:00] <samu2> if you play the latest crappy pc games you might not be too happy with linux
[02:00] <fobia> aftertaf: wat do i do
[02:01] <aftertaf> fobia:  dont know.....
[02:01] <Smoking_n00b> < i still keep a win XP install around for my games> :)
[02:01] <fobia> i tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-   aftertaf:
[02:01] <Somada142> Oh question...after i insert my usb flash disk and then unmount it the led keeps going on and off...what should i do?
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Where can I learn the .deb packaging?
[02:02] <codenut> Hi gang, still cannot get PPP set up on that machine.
[02:02] <fobia> anyone can help???
[02:02] <rambo3> no
[02:02] <onkarshinde> fobia: State the question
[02:03] <pl_ice> hey, what partition shall i choose under cfdisk for fat32, so windows can see it?
[02:03] <Whistler> !upgrade2breezy
[02:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:03] <fobia> onkarshinde: i tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-  k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:03] <johnnybezak> well guys i survived my breezy install
[02:03] <fobia> onkarshinde: can u help plz
[02:04] <Somada142> have there been any reports of problems with breezy up till now?
[02:04] <onkarshinde> fobia: Where did you install k3b from?
[02:04] <fobia> onkarshinde: synaptic
[02:04] <johnnybezak> Somada142: haha of course its a beta version of an operating system :)
[02:04] <Wermut> How can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.
[02:04] <Smoking_n00b> Thanks again for everyones help ! :) I'm out.
[02:04] <Somada142> like what should i upgrade or not?
[02:05] <fobia> onkarshinde: im havin lots of problems with ubuntu
[02:05] <onkarshinde> fobia: Its weird. Synaptic should install all the dependencies. Still check that you have package libqt3c102-mt installed
[02:06] <deFrysk> fobia added funny repos ?
[02:06] <fobia> onkarshinde: its there
[02:06] <fobia> onkarshinde: i hav to instal ubuntu four or five times for it to instal
[02:07] <ompaul> !tell SoleKiller about root
[02:07] <fobia> ompaul the rascal
[02:08] <fobia> onkarshinde: is it possible that my motherboard is uncompatible
[02:08] <onkarshinde> fobia: I have no idea about it. Motherboard incompatibility won't cause problem with shared libraries.
[02:10] <fobia> onkarshinde: because i hav never managed to instal ubuntu smoothly
[02:10] <johnnybezak> hey guys, I'm getting a problem with the f-spot package, it worked when I first installed it now its not working. how can i do a fresh install of it and it's dependancies?
[02:10] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Mark for reinstallation from Synaptic
[02:10] <fobia> onkarshinde: n my system is brand new
[02:11] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: how do i do it from cli?
[02:11] <onkarshinde> fobia: Sorry. But I don't think that should cause problem. Do you have problems with other distros as well?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: sudo apt-get --remove purge packagename will remove package along with its configuration.
[02:12] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Then you can reinstall it.
[02:12] <cr4sh> hey guyz can anyone help me setup proftpd
[02:13] <fobia> onkarshinde: ya wit kubuntu also, but fdora worked fine
[02:14] <fobia> onkarshinde: r u indian
[02:15] <prolsd> ompaul, i have a FX5600. Can you help me with configuring the drivers for it? thank you.
[02:15] <ompaul> !tell prolsd about nvidia
[02:15] <onkarshinde> fobia: Yes. I am. How did you know that?
[02:16] <fobia> onkarshinde: i am indian too
[02:17] <onkarshinde> fobia: Where are you from?
[02:17] <fobia> onkarshinde: pondicherry, south india
[02:17] <fobia> onkarshinde: hey help me out man
[02:18] <onkarshinde> fobia: I really don't have any idea. Are you trying breezy? You may want to try Hoary just because it is stable.
[02:19] <fobia> onkarshinde: i am on hoary
[02:19] <onkarshinde> fobia: Can you tell me your system configuration?
[02:21] <fobia> onkarshinde: p4 2.4gh - asrock mboard - 380mb of ram - 40 gb hdd
[02:22] <fobia> onkarshinde: ubuntu never instals properly
[02:23] <onkarshinde> fobia: Since it is p4 i don't see any reason for the problem. I really don't have any idea what is causing this.
[02:23] <fobia> fedora worked fine
[02:24] <fobia> onkarshinde: do u think breezy might work
[02:26] <fobia> onkarshinde: i mean it works. but skype, k3b n som others dont work doesnt
[02:26] <onkarshinde> fobia: No idea. I haven't tried it yet myself.
[02:26] <praise_> hello, could some one help me with installing nvidia driver
[02:26] <dazvid> !tell praise_ about nvidia
[02:26] <fobia> onkarshinde: they instal smoothly but dont open
[02:26] <dazvid> follow that praise_ it worked for me fine
[02:27] <fobia> onkarshinde: how do i get al the useful libraried
[02:27] <praise_> i get an error with being unable to load nvidia.ko
[02:29] <onkarshinde> fobia: skype, k3b use qt for interface. So it seems that the some library related to qt is missing.
[02:30] <fobia> onkarshinde: ok, so wat do i do
[02:32] <fobia> onkarshinde: ya its the interface which is not workin
[02:32] <onkarshinde> fobia: try this command 'sudo apt-get -f update' and tell me what it says.
[02:33] <fluffybunny_> how do I add applications to the gnome menu?
[02:33] <fobia> onkarshinde: i did that n tried to open k3b, but its the same
[02:34] <peterretief> if I set up a bridged ath0/eth0 network as br0, do i assign br0 as the dhcpd port?
[02:34] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: You need to install a package named smeg for meny editing.
[02:35] <onkarshinde> fobia: What was output of command?
[02:35] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: thanks
[02:35] <fobia> onkarshinde: it did an update
[02:36] <ThreeDayMonk> Is there a command-line way to open a file with its default handler?  (I.e. as if it were double clicked in Nautilus.)
[02:37] <fobia> onkarshinde: k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared obj ect file: No such file or directory
[02:37] <mjr> ThreeDayMonk, gnome-open seems to do something like that
[02:37] <nlogax> 6c6c6c
[02:37] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: no smeg in synaptic?
[02:37] <ThreeDayMonk> mjr: perfect!  Thanks
[02:37] <nlogax> can someone remind me how much disk a stock install of Ubuntu (Hoary or Breezy) takes?  Isn't it, like 1.8 GB?
[02:37] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: Let me check.
[02:38] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: It is in universe repository. You need to enable Universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <fobia> onkarshinde: wats the way out
[02:38] <airox> Hi, I'm trying to compile a program. Which things would I need to get it to compile ? Like which apt packages ?
[02:39] <dazvid> gcc
[02:39] <ThreeDayMonk> build-essential
[02:39] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: hmmm... i thought I had done that... let me double check (hoary repositories, right?)
[02:39] <Wermut> airox: apt-get build-essential
[02:39] <airox> Ok.
[02:39] <dazvid> oh wait
[02:39] <fobia> onkarshinde: its the interface which does not apear
[02:39] <dazvid> You mean installing .. -_-
[02:40] <ThreeDayMonk> airox: you'll also need the -dev packages for any libraries it uses
[02:40] <airox> Ok.
[02:40] <aftertaf> what do i need to copy to a chroot system to be able to use normal user & sudo i it?
[02:40] <aftertaf> !repository
[02:40] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:40] <aftertaf> !repos
[02:40] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:41] <airox> ./configure doesn't seem to work though O_o
[02:41] <airox> gijs@hpx4000:~/Desktop/gbtcr-0.86$ ./configure
[02:41] <airox> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:41] <fobia> onkarshinde: wat do i do
[02:41] <onkarshinde> fobia: Sorry, but I have no idea then. Just make sure once again that all the needed packages are installed.
[02:42] <fobia> onkarshinde: how??
[02:42] <onkarshinde> fobia: you can try this 'sudo apt-get check' This will check for broken dependencies
[02:42] <fobia> onkarshinde: its fine
[02:43] <aftertaf> does anyone have list of breezy repositories?
[02:43] <netjoin> wenas
[02:43] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: What do you mean? You just need to replace hoary with breezy in your sources.list.
[02:44] <fobia> onkarshinde: last time i installed k3b worked
[02:44] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:   except on the backports repos, i gather...
[02:45] <yahalom> anyone use trillian on ubuntu?
[02:45] <dazvid> GAIM is linux equivalent of trillian
[02:45] <dazvid> so not much point really
[02:45] <str8edge> yahalom: try gaie
[02:45] <str8edge> oops gaim
[02:45] <fobia> onkarshinde: i guess i gotta give up
[02:46] <yahalom> dazvid: i know gaim. just its different. like gaim. just wondered whether anyone got trillian working.
[02:46] <dazvid> Fair enough
[02:46] <fobia> onkarshinde: thnx anyways
[02:46] <Whistler> hello
[02:46] <onkarshinde> yahalom: Is trillian open source? Is there any official port available?
[02:47] <Whistler> i wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?
[02:47] <yahalom> onkarshinde: nope
[02:47] <selinium> hi guys, a burning issue! :) For some reason when I try to burn an iso it is saying to insert a blank cd, I have tried 2 from fresh packets. Any ideas?
[02:48] <yahalom> selinium: what burning ap?
[02:48] <thenuke> selinium: could the image be bigger than the cd-r's?
[02:48] <fobia> onkarshinde: and if i get breezy then i have to replace hoary hedghog by breexy badger in sources.list???
[02:49] <Whistler> i wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?
[02:49] <lesshaste> how do you list all installed packages by size
[02:49] <onkarshinde> fobia: Yes. Replace hoary by breezy
[02:49] <selinium> I am trying to burn Breezy Live. The discs are 7--mb and the breezy iso is 650. I am using right-click/write to disc
[02:49] <yahalom> Whistler: what are ur options? iso or what?
[02:50] <Whistler> nether mind i figured it out
[02:50] <yahalom> selinium: sudo apt-get install k3b and try it, see if u get the same issue
[02:50] <selinium> yahalom: Will do but i didn't used to get this faliure
[02:50] <Whistler> how do i make an iso image of a ubuntu cd?
[02:51] <claviceps> hey
[02:51] <yahalom> Whistler: just download the iso image from ubuntulinux.org and upload that
[02:52] <netjoin> any spanish chanel?
[02:52] <yahalom> selinium: if it worked it will work again, u running breezy?
[02:52] <Whistler> yahalom cant i make iso of a cd? It would be a lot faster
[02:52] <selinium> yahalom: nope hoary
[02:53] <yahalom> Whistler: yeah i know with k3b u can take the iso off the cd
[02:53] <lesshaste> how do you list all installed packages by size?
[02:53] <Whistler> yahalom can i use gnome-baker for that?
[02:53] <Whistler> cause i cant find how to do it?
[02:53] <selinium> yahalom: oh blast, I have been trying to keep my machine KDE free! :)
[02:53] <yahalom> Whistler: u probably can. not sure. look for the option to extract the image from the cd.
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: yeah i know how u feel. me too.
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: play around with gnome-baker maybe it has that option too
[02:54] <slim_ff> I am new to Ubuntu and I am already having prblems
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: i'm at work on a windows box, so i cant check myself
[02:55] <yahalom> selinium: all that kde plastic sticks in ur mind though, so i remember k3b
[02:55] <selinium> :)
[02:55] <onkarshinde> Whistler: You should be able to gnome-baker to make iso of a cd
[02:55] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: What problems?
[02:56] <johnnybezak> hey guys when I launch f-spot i get errors about glib sharp and what I think is wierd there is some stuff about f-spot.exe there
[02:56] <Whistler> onkarshinde i cant find an option in gnome baker
[02:56] <Whistler> =
[02:56] <Whistler> =[
[02:56] <slim_ff> after installing I login in and it put me at a command propt, but I ccan not get it to load Ubuntu
[02:56] <yahalom> johnnybezak: query me ur full error
[02:56] <johnnybezak> yahalom is that /query?
[02:56] <__filip_> how can i run an dc hub in ubuntu?
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Whistler: See if there is something like Copy a CD
[02:56] <Whistler> oh
[02:57] <lesshaste>  I just want the equivalent of
[02:57] <lesshaste> rpm -qa --queryformat '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{size}\n' | sort -nr +1
[02:57] <netjoin> is the root password the same the first user installer?
[02:57] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Are you sure you did a complete install? And after reboot did  you wait for all the package configuration? Or did you yourself shutdown the system in between?
[02:57] <yahalom> netjoin: sudo root yes
[02:57] <Whistler> onkarshinde thx i found it
[02:58] <slim_ff> I let it shut down the system
[02:58] <netjoin> ok thx
[02:58] <yahalom> johnnybezak: yes
[02:58] <onkarshinde> netjoin: Actually there is no root account by default
[02:58] <Madeye> hey
[02:58] <netjoin> aha
[02:58] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to install safari on ubuntu ?
[02:59] <onkarshinde> netjoin: But you can do some system administration tasks by using the first user you created. It will ask for the password of the same account.
[02:59] <onkarshinde> Madeye: Is Safari opensource? I suppose not.
[02:59] <johnnybezak> yahalom: what do you reckon
[02:59] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  any of the non official repos that are quoted by ubotu exist in breezy?
[02:59] <netjoin> ok thx very m
[02:59] <aftertaf> not just the .archive. ones?
[02:59] <NET||abuse> I wonder could someone help me with updating the kernel source package
[03:00] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Can you give an example?
[03:00] <cristiano> oi bom dia
[03:00] <yahalom> johnnybezak: what on earth man? where did u get that?
[03:00] <cristiano> alguem ai fala portugues
[03:00] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: And then what happen after shutdown or reboot? I mean the first reboot whicle installation.
[03:00] <cristiano> i'm braziliam
[03:00] <NET||abuse> i have the latest kernel, but synaptic doesn't want to download the latest source, it's still sitting there with 2.4.27
[03:00] <johnnybezak> yahalom: haha that printed when i tried to open f-spot in the terminal, wierd hey?
[03:00] <aftertaf> http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/
[03:00] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  ^^^
[03:01] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: Ok, now its saying this: Ubuntu come with absolutely no warrenty, to the extent permitted by application law. The a comman prompt
[03:01] <yahalom> johnnybezak: yes. where did u download it from?
[03:01] <cristiano> gosto no ubuntu muito mais rodando o kde
[03:01] <johnnybezak> yahalom: the ubuntu repo's
[03:01] <aftertaf> NET||abuse:  what distro are you on?
[03:01] <osfameron> !pt
[03:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:01] <NET||abuse> this one, hoary hedgehog
[03:01] <aftertaf> and you have 2.4 kernel? not possible
[03:02] <aftertaf> look for linux-source NET||abuse
[03:02] <NET||abuse> no, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386 but the kernel source package in synaptic wont upgrade past 2.4.27
[03:02] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Try this command 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop'
[03:02] <yahalom> johnnybezak: umm. me not on ubuntu now. try searching apt-cache search or whateve for the f-spot dev files if any.
[03:02] <occy> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-10.1_all.deb:  unable to stat `./etc/X11/xkb/symbols' (which I was about to install): Input/output error
[03:02] <aftertaf> package now called linux-source NET||abuse
[03:02] <NET||abuse> oh, not called kernel source anymore?
[03:02] <aftertaf> nope, not in ubuntu
[03:02] <aftertaf> afaik
[03:04] <johnnybezak> yahalom: i dunno what's going on haha
[03:04] <occy> anyone seen that error before?
[03:04] <yahalom> johnnybezak: sudo synaptic and search for f-spot see if u find any dev
[03:05] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: About the repos you mentioned I suppose it is not related to Ubuntu at all. It is related to KUbuntu.
[03:06] <sipior> hopefully not a dumb question: i'm trying to get ssh-askpass to work with keychain on Breezy Badger, and it refuses to accept my passphrase. however, invoking keychain ans ssh-askpass work fine after gnome starts up. anyone else have this difficulty?
[03:06] <johnnybezak> yahalom: nothing there
[03:06] <linuxsbartley> Does anyone have some time to work with me on the difference between 5.04 and 5.10 when installing Server w/ xdm?
[03:06] <aftertaf> ubuntu with KDE, yes
[03:07] <yahalom> johnnybezak: ok try this. apt-get remove f-spot, and then look for it in google and download it from the site and see if u still get probs
[03:07] <occy> apt-get -f install didn't fix it. :(
[03:07] <yahalom> johnnybezak: ok?
[03:08] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: So you wont use that repos anyway.
[03:08] <occy> http://pastebin.com/362462
[03:08] <occy> could someone take a look at that?
[03:08] <johnnybezak> yahalom: you mean compile it from source?
[03:09] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  i use KDE
[03:10] <netjoin> bye
[03:10] <netjoin> :)
[03:10] <Mutant> can someone help me out? When I print to a PDF file, the owner is set to "nobody" and the group is set to "nogroup"... and so I have to "chmod 0777" the file before I can open it... and I was wondering if there was any way that I can print to the PDF and not have to chmod it...
[03:10] <occy> Is Hoary broken at the moment?
[03:10] <occy> don't see anything in the topic about it.
[03:10] <occy> http://pastebin.com/362462  <-- I'm getting this
[03:11] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: keeps coming up bad command
[03:11] <johnnybezak> woops i just deleted all my home folder haha thank f*ck i've got it backed up
[03:12] <Chameleon22> anyone knows of a nice ogg to mp3 converter, also mov to mp3 converter?
[03:12] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Rioght. But I suppose you are using KDE on Ubuntu. So you won't need that repos.
[03:13] <aftertaf> i dunno..... onkarshinde
[03:13] <aftertaf> :/
[03:14] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: What command did you try?
[03:14] <aftertaf> occy:  not exactly sexy as an error goes .....
[03:15] <aftertaf> occy:  tried apt-get install -f ?
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, yessir I did
[03:15] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, same thing.
[03:15] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Did it ask for a password?
[03:15] <aftertaf> yessir tt's enough!!!!!
[03:15] <slim_ff> no
[03:15] <aftertaf> :D
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, the apt-get -f install did some stuff and then it didn't return an error.
[03:16] <linuxsbartley> I am trying to do a server install of 5.10 and then use xdm & xfce.  On 5.04 this was as simple as installing server, followed by x-window-system-core, xterm and synaptic.  Then using Universe, installing xdm and xfce4 then rebooting.  The system would come back up w/ xdm & xfce.  On 5.10, I followed the exact same process.  The system tries to go to the xdm gui but fails and drops me to Alt-F8 w/ a message of "Starting X display man
[03:16] <linuxsbartley> ager".
[03:16] <occy> aftertaf, heh
[03:16] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:16] <occy> well, My feeling is, if someone is kind enough to respond to help, the least I can do is be polite.
[03:16] <occy> :)
[03:16] <aftertaf> no sirree i cant answer that one ;)
[03:16] <Bombu> I've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?
[03:16] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Your installation is not complete? Did it even ask for a username password at start?
[03:16] <occy> hmm
[03:16] <occy> yeah
[03:16] <occy> this is a suck.  :(
[03:17] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: yes it does and i enter it and it takes me to a commcand prompt
[03:18] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Can you once try the command without sudo word
[03:18] <Bombu> can someone help me?
[03:18] <Naked31> about what ?
[03:18] <Bombu> I've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?
[03:19] <Naked31> ?
[03:19] <Naked31> I don't understand your question?
[03:20] <osfameron> the CDs do take rather a long time to arrive
[03:20] <Bombu> yeah, but it never gave me that message before. does that mean that they are being sent?
[03:21] <lesshaste>  I have just received an email in thunderbird and when I reply the text is some super weird foreign font. How do I fix that?
[03:21] <aftertaf> use screen :D
[03:22] <aftertaf> for screen is good
[03:22] <aftertaf> reboujou spiral_ ;)
[03:22] <spiral> aftertaf: re
[03:23] <spiral> hi everybody
[03:23] <spiral> could anyone tell me how to have usplash working with a home-made kernel.org kernel in breezy ?
[03:24] <Madeye> guys, what do you recommend to setup wine, winetools or winesetup ?
[03:29] <occy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post348442
[03:29] <mcrandello> did merillat change addresses?
[03:31] <mcrandello> because apt-get update is throwing a royal hissyfit when it tries to get the packges.gz file :(
[03:31] <Whistler> how do i add ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu to my sources list?
[03:32] <Whistler> i know this mirror is safe
[03:32] <Whistler> i just dont know the syntax
[03:32] <Whistler> of sources.list
[03:32] <Whistler> anybody can help?
[03:32] <mcrandello> whistler try "deb http://foo.whatever.com main" or something like that
[03:33] <ds[de] > just look at your existing sources.list and add your entry accordingly
[03:33] <Puff-n-Stuff> morning all..quicky question..I have these extra codecs for mplayer...where should they be placed so mplayer can see them?
[03:33] <mcrandello> I'm having problems getting the exact syntax on the url right myself
[03:33] <Whistler> mcrandello :)
[03:33] <mcrandello> that worked?
[03:33] <zorba64> Puff-n-Stuff, /usr/lib/win32
[03:33] <G|Patrick> hi
[03:33] <Puff-n-Stuff> zorba64, thanks..
[03:34] <G|Patrick> which command do i need to check wihch graphicdriver is in use?
[03:34] <G|Patrick> ubuntu breezy 4.10p1
[03:34] <mcrandello> glxinfo
[03:34] <mcrandello> should show up the first line after that Patrick
[03:35] <G|Patrick> weired
[03:35] <G|Patrick> pastbin for details, k?
[03:35] <spiral> noone about usplash ?
[03:35] <zorba64> Whistler, deb ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:36] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2151
[03:36] <G|Patrick> there is something wrong i guess since i have ati
[03:36] <spiral> does anyone know how I can install j2sdk 1.5 in breezy via apt ?
[03:36] <G|Patrick> which command is needer to reconfigure the xserver
[03:36] <reiki_work> installed mplayer last night and the mplayer plugin for firefox. It doesn't open wmv files in firefox and when I try it either crashes firefox completely, just plays the sound, or does nothing at all. mplayer on it's own appears to work fine. So I think just the plugin is hosed. I'm not at that machine right now, but any clues as to where to look to get it straightened out would be appreciated
[03:36] <Whistler> zorba64 i get E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:36] <Whistler> when i try to update
[03:37] <mcrandello> G|Patrick, I think you need to rename some of the GL files before instaling the ATI drivers
[03:37] <G|Patrick> the driver should be installed
[03:37] <G|Patrick> i simpy upgraded to 4.10
[03:37] <G|Patrick> but xorg config and anything else has been overwritten
[03:37] <zorba64> Whistler: post your sources list to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:37] <G|Patrick> and i cant remember the command to restart xorg config
[03:37] <mcrandello> I switched to nvidia myself so I'm a little fuzzzy on the detials but bet since you upgraded it overwrote the files and you'll need to re-reinstall the drivers maybe
[03:37] <G|Patrick> sudo xorgconf?
[03:38] <mcrandello> fglrxconfig I think
[03:38] <mcrandello> that's if you want ATI's proprietary drivers
[03:38] <G|Patrick> have u looked into my pastebin entry
[03:38] <Whistler> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2152
[03:38] <G|Patrick> there is sgi listed as graphicadatpet
[03:38] <G|Patrick> there is sgi listed as graphicadapter
[03:38] <G|Patrick> so i have to modify X first to use the correct driver
[03:38] <G|Patrick> k?
[03:39] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2151 <--- look
[03:39] <mcrandello> right, run fglrxconfig if you installed the ATI drivers or try changing the xorg.conf manuallly to say "fglrx" for the driver
[03:39] <G|Patrick> where is the xorg.conf?
[03:40] <Whistler> G|Patrick /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <notnilC> can anyone help me with ubuntu? i can't get it to access the net but i can see the rest of my network (i'm very very new to this)
[03:41] <Colibri> sera a tutti
[03:41] <Whistler> zorba64 http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2152
[03:41] <G|Patrick> in xorg conf it says that fglrx is used
[03:41] <G|Patrick> but thats obviously wrong
[03:41] <zorba64> Whistler: deb ftp://ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:41] <aftertaf> !fr
[03:41] <ubotu> methinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:42] <mcrandello> okay then what happened is the GL.so.conf or one of the files that looks a lot like it got overwrote when you upgraded G|Patrick
[03:42] <Whistler> zorba64 thx
[03:42] <G|Patrick> mcrandello: what do u mean exactly
[03:42] <mcrandello> err GL.so.1
[03:42] <G|Patrick> i am still a noob and ahve no skills to think on the next edge :(
[03:42] <zorba64> Whistler: np
[03:42] <jc-denton> i cannot find the manpage limits.conf on my ubuntu sys (breezy
[03:43] <jc-denton> on debian sarge there is a manpage for limits.conf
[03:43] <mcrandello> one of the files that ATI installs is named the same thing as one of the files that ubuntu uses. xorg looks for this file when you load the video drivers
[03:43] <G|Patrick> mcrandello: it was about an half hour installation, i dont know which files have been overwritten at all...
[03:43] <mcrandello> okay I'd reccomend reinstalling the ATI drivrs
[03:43] <jc-denton> what is also strange is mp3 support
[03:43] <G|Patrick> which command starts xorg reconfiguration
[03:43] <jc-denton> beep media player supports mp3
[03:43] <jc-denton> the gstreamer stuff does not
[03:44] <oscarh> hi, i am having problem typing swedish characters in vim :(
[03:44] <mcrandello> I don't think that's going to do it but xorgconfig
[03:44] <G|Patrick> simpy tell it plz
[03:44] <zorba64> G|Patrick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <G|Patrick> i dont want to install it
[03:44] <mcrandello> be sure to back up your existing /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <G|Patrick> i simply want to reconfigure it
[03:45] <mcrandello> you say you upgraded right?
[03:45] <G|Patrick> sure
[03:45] <G|Patrick> with synaptic
[03:45] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:45] <aftertaf> reconfigure
[03:45] <mcrandello> dollars to donuts when you did you got a new version of xorg. when it installed its files it overwrote the opengl driver that ATI gave you with its own
[03:46] <G|Patrick> kernel framebuffer interface? yes or no?
[03:46] <brenner> 'lo.  anyone have experience with setting up a winmodem (which i think i unfortunately have)
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, i have one working
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, using smartlink
[03:46] <jc-denton> so where the fuck is that manpage?
[03:46] <enyc>  brenner: depends on the type.. what chipset modem EXACTLY do you have?
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, had to patch it though
[03:46] <enyc> brenner: running "/sbin/lspci" may well mention the modem type
[03:47] <notnilC> can anyone help me with why ubuntu won't connect to the internet?
[03:47] <dbzdeath> hey i am trying to run a 32bit mplayer on amd64 ubuntu...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=334873#post334873 as in that guide but i get the error mplayer32: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when trying to run it  can someone please help me?
[03:47] <mcrandello> notnilC, you using some kind of internet router?
[03:47] <tretre> the European Commission want to keep all telephone and internet traffic data of all 450 million Europeans. If you are concerned about this plan, please sign the petition. http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com/
[03:47] <notnilC> yes mcrandello
[03:47] <brenner> enyc, i think it came up as unkown...i'm in xp now. but i can get the results of that scanModem shell script if you want
[03:47] <notnilC> it lets winxp through but not ubuntu
[03:47] <enyc> bren: maybe ;-)
[03:47] <enyc> bren: lspci is best, boot off ubuntu or knoppix or something and give us that information
[03:47] <mcrandello> try bringing up the router's config page in firefox in ubuntu
[03:48] <notnilC> i was able to bring that up
[03:48] <mcrandello> hrmmm
[03:48] <brenner> enyc: argh...it's 56k so i have to disconnect...
[03:48] <mcrandello> what kind of router?
[03:48] <notnilC> would there be settings in it that stop linux from gaining access?? (i had same probs with fedora)
[03:48] <mcrandello> I'm guessing there are
[03:48] <setite> !dvd
[03:48] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[03:49] <notnilC> iconnectaccess621
[03:49] <eolo> hi guys, always the same question!!!! I just installed kubuntu 5.04 and don't remember apt repository for java runtime envronment for amd 64
[03:49] <notnilC> (im aussie)
[03:49] <eolo> someone can help me?
[03:49] <enyc> dbzdeath: you may need 'ia32-libs' package
[03:49] <mcrandello> as far as ubuntu is concerned your router is the internet... is your router set to port forward 80 to your windows machine?
[03:49] <dbzdeath> enyc: i already have it...
[03:49] <notnilC> hrmmm
[03:49] <bob2> eolo: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:50] <eolo> thanks bob2
[03:50] <dbzdeath> enyc: if it helps i get this when i run ld on /usr/bin/mplayer32 ld: warning: i386 architecture of input file `/usr/bin/mplayer32' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output
[03:50] <enyc> dbzd: hrrm Im not familiar with this, sorry
[03:50] <bob2> er
[03:50] <bob2> ld is useless there
[03:50] <bob2> ldd migt be of some use
[03:50] <G|Patrick> ok
[03:51] <G|Patrick> reconfiguration done
[03:51] <G|Patrick> have i make ne checksum
[03:51] <G|Patrick> or can i restart now and check it?
[03:51] <dbzdeath> bob2: yeah it ouputs ... libstdc++.so.5 => not found
[03:51] <G|Patrick> have it to restart?
[03:51] <osfameron> Can you get gvim on ubuntu?
[03:51] <bob2> dbzdeath: there you go
[03:51] <osfameron> I tried to install gvim via synaptic but doesn't seem to have done anything much
[03:52] <dbzdeath> bob2: any idea on how to fix it?
[03:52] <bob2> seriously, if you care about binary crap, just use i386
[03:52] <mcrandello> try "startx" from the console G|Patrick
[03:52] <mcrandello> no need to reboot
[03:52] <fluffybunny_> i seem to have lost automount for my usb flash disk. also, the names displayed on the flashdisk are truncated to 8.3 format... how do I dix this
[03:52] <bob2> osfameron: of course
[03:53] <notnilC> mcrandello i can't find on the modem page where it tells me about the port forwarding
[03:53] <osfameron> bob2: ah, now it's not finding it in synaptic, grrrrr
[03:53] <bob2> it's there
[03:53] <mcrandello> what's the exact device you're pluggint eht computer into notnilC ?
[03:53] <bob2> dbzdeath: install ia32-libs
[03:53] <osfameron> any particular repository?
[03:53] <bob2> dbzdeath: if you're using breezy, you have lost
[03:54] <bob2> osfameron: universe
[03:54] <notnilC> modem router via ethernet
[03:54] <occy> bob2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post348442   ( I'm getting errors when upgrading )
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> !usb
[03:54] <ubotu> fluffybunny_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:54] <occy> bob2, morning
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> !mount
[03:54] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[03:54] <dbzdeath> bob2: i already have... i'm using hoary and i only have libstdc++.so.6 and not .5
[03:54] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: can you unmount the flash drive and remount it?
[03:54] <brenner> enyc: ok, i'm gonna reboot and run lspci...can you wait 5 mins for me?
[03:54] <bob2> dbzdeath: odd
[03:54] <enyc> bren: yes, but not too much longer
[03:54] <jc-denton> so does anybody here have an idea why this manpage is not installed?
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: I have to manually mount and unmount it, but it used to do it as soon as I plugged it in?
[03:54] <enyc> bren: you shold gfind communications device or something
[03:54] <brenner> enyc: right, brb
[03:55] <bob2> dbzdeath: guess you need to rebuild mplayer (or get a newer version from whereever you got it from)
[03:55] <dbzdeath> bob2: there is no package for 5 afaik
[03:55] <enyc> bren: most users, can "/sbin/lspci"
[03:55] <bob2> dbzdeath: there is, just not for the i386 on amd64
[03:55] <dbzdeath> bob2: yeah thats what i meant
[03:55] <osfameron> ah, it's not called "gvim" but vim-gtk or vim-perl...
[03:55] <mcrandello> notnilC:is the windows on a different partition on the same computer or is this another machine?
[03:55] <bob2> occy: disk fuckage
[03:55] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I had the same problem with a flash drive that was formatted on a windows box and then used in Ubuntu. Is it being detected as /dev/sda1 ?
[03:55] <occy> bob2, really?
[03:55] <notnilC> different partition same computer
[03:55] <mcrandello> hrmm
[03:56] <bob2> occy: I'd very stronlyg suspect it
[03:56] <occy> bob2, I was getting some hard drive errors last night :(
[03:56] <bob2> occy: look at the output of 'dmesg'
[03:56] <jc-denton> is there a bts in ubuntu
[03:56] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: how do I check that? i mount it as "mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" which works fine, so I think /dev/sda1 is being detected?
[03:56] <jc-denton> can i use reportbug?
[03:56] <occy> init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (2767)
[03:56] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: this was a disk last used on windows (similar problem last night with a disk used on a Mac)
[03:57] <setite> anyone have a good sources.list for amd64
[03:57] <bob2> jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com. no
[03:57] <occy> bob2, http://pastebin.com/362491
[03:57] <bob2> setite: the one that comes with it is fine
[03:58] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: that sounds right ... I had to make an entry in my /etc/fstab file to get mine to automount AND I reformatted it on the ubuntu box. So first get your needed file off the flash drive and THEN I formatted using mkdosfs /dev/sda1 so that it could also be read on windows machines
[03:58] <u-sun--> hi all, any one here have a dual boot of ubuntu on mac?
[03:58] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: can't format it - its not my disk :)
[03:58] <jc-denton> bob2: so how do i report an ubuntu related bug?
[03:58] <u-sun--> g4 powerbook?
[03:58] <mcrandello> notnilC, can you ping any outside internet sites? ("ping http://google.com" from a console)
[03:58] <u-sun--> i tried to do this ... and i hope that i would not wipe my current HD
[03:58] <notnilC> im not sure
[03:58] <jdermer> has anyone been able to get mprime running on ubuntu
[03:58] <jdermer> i get
[03:58] <notnilC> i'll give it a try
[03:59] <jdermer> ./mprime: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by ./mprime)
[03:59] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you JUST type    mount   i a terminal window ... what does it tell you about the file system on /dev/sda1 ?
[03:59] <thenuke> jc-denton: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/bugs
[03:59] <bob2> jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <jc-denton> lol
[03:59] <jc-denton> thx
[03:59] <bob2> u-sun--: lots of pepole do, just ask your question
[03:59] <u-sun--> aska  question?
[03:59] <jc-denton> humm
[03:59] <bob2> occy: your disk is unhappy
[03:59] <u-sun--> ok, i asked on this list
[03:59] <jc-denton> if i remove reportbug
[03:59] <jc-denton> ubuntu-standard will be removed too
[03:59] <u-sun--> how do i install ubuntu without erasing my current HD
[03:59] <jc-denton> are u sure it cannot be used?
[04:00] <occy> bob2, recommendation, contact my laptop manufactuerer and get another disk?
[04:00] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: um... there is nothing about dev/sda1 ...
[04:00] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: you MIGHT need to type    sudo mount    ... to see all entries
[04:00] <u-sun--> and to do a dual boot on G4 powerbok
[04:00] <bob2> jdermer: that version of mrprime is not for your system
[04:00] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: was already in a root terminal - no sda1 in mount
[04:00] <mcrandello> u-sun--, You'll need some kind of partition resizing program or a second hard disk
[04:00] <bob2> jc-denton: yes
[04:00] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  well that makes me believe it's no longer mounted if mount isn't seeing it
[04:01] <jdermer> its the only version there is i think lol
[04:01] <bob2> u-sun--: you free some space then run the ubuntu installer
[04:01] <u-sun--> okk
[04:01] <bob2> jdermer: then you can't run it, sorry
[04:01] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hang on - just checking if amd has been disable
[04:01] <u-sun--> 3 gigs is enough?
[04:01] <bob2> occy: did you enable dma or anything like that?
[04:01] <mcrandello> u-sun--, wait you have a pppowerbook?
[04:01] <bob2> occy: or run an odd kernel?
[04:01] <u-sun--> bob2, have you tried it on external HD?
[04:01] <u-sun--> with firewire
[04:01] <u-sun--> i will use my external HD
[04:01] <bob2> u-sun--: can openfirmware boot firewire disks?
[04:01] <occy> bob2, well... I did just do this recently:   http://occy.net/node/142
[04:02] <jdermer> bob2, why ?
[04:02] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: try mounting it again using mount -t vfat uid=<yourusername> /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[04:02] <jdermer> bob2, what does it mean
[04:02] <u-sun--> bob2, yes it can
[04:02] <reiki_work> I think that syntax is correct... someone look please
[04:02] <occy> bob2, crimsun helped walk me through removing my kernel stuff and re-installing.
[04:02] <mcrandello> heh I never knew there was a ppc port
[04:02] <bob2> jdermer: it means it was compiled for a much newer system than hoary
[04:03] <bob2> jdermer: and hoary came out only 5 months ago, so whoever did it was an idiot
[04:03] <occy> bob2, I was trying to clean out all the stuff from when I had followed this to get my wireless card into monitor mode:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[04:03] <mcrandello> also if you have a cd/dvd burner I alwaus reccomend making a backup of any data you mind losing before installing anything
[04:03] <bob2> occy: reinstalling won't cause issues
[04:03] <bob2> er, the kernel
[04:04] <occy> bob2, that's an exact paper trail of all I've done.
[04:04] <mcrandello> so does anyone have the proper address to plug in to make merillat work with hoary?mine keeps saying it can't find the packages.gz
[04:04] <occy> everything was working fine before that.
[04:04] <occy> :/
[04:04] <occy> bah
[04:04] <occy> why I mess with things when they are working
[04:04] <bob2> mcrandello: that's because he doesn't have a hoary repository at all
[04:05] <mcrandello> oh :(
[04:05] <reiki_work> occy: cause you're adventurous and Breezy will be out soon so you can wipe it all out and start over fresh! :)
[04:05] <bob2> occy: perhaps you had random memory corruption and a reboot will fix it
[04:05] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: aside from a missing comma, that worked, and now I can see my long file names nicely :)
[04:05] <occy> bob2, hmmm   I can try that... :/  I'm thinking I might still have some of the ipw2200 (updated) drivers in there.
[04:05] <dabaR> my printer is not being autodetected any more, it used to be. Any quick hints?
[04:05] <occy> reiki_work, heh
[04:06] <bob2> it's technically possible for a buggy driver to cause that error
[04:06] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... cool... did you check your fstab file to see if there's an entry to automount that?
[04:06] <bob2> but in practice very unlikely, I'd think
[04:06] <occy> bob2, I'm sure something is wacky.  The only thing I can think of is to try and back-up and re-install.
[04:06] <occy> I've got a fairly recent backup.
[04:06] <mcrandello> is there anything equivalent that weill let me get the mplayer codecs and all that other junk?
[04:06] <fluffybunny_> \me blushes... uhm, reiki_work, how do I do that?
[04:06] <occy> (from a week ago)
[04:06] <occy> of my main files at least
[04:07] <bob2> mcrandello: which of those aren't in multiverse?
[04:07] <bob2> obviously aside from w32codecs
[04:07] <occy> bob2, as always, thanks for your help bud.
[04:07] <bob2> occy: just areboot might be enough
[04:07] <bob2> np
[04:07] <occy> bbiab
[04:08] <mcrandello> well, that's what I was most concerned with. I seem to remember getting a whole bunch of stuff with mp3 support enabled and I thought it was from there
[04:08] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: is ok - i got fstab open in gedit
[04:08] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  I believe it's  /etc/fstab  should be a line telling it to mount  vfat  /dev/dsa1 as /media/usb  noauto,user (no space between "noauto" and "user"  0  0  ... PLEASE check this against your current file as I may not quite have it all in here... I'm not at my Ubuntu box.
[04:09] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: look at the way that file is and I'm sure you can get this right
[04:11] <reiki_work> I didn't get an answer on this the other night... maybe someone here can help... is there a way to reread fstab after you've made changes? I ended up rebooting and don't know if that's necessary or not
[04:12] <mcrandello> there's the source command built into bash but it might not work with fstab and you'd need to be logged in as root anyway reiki_work
[04:12] <mdke> hi all
[04:12] <xTina> reiki_work: depends on the type of changes. if you've just added partitions to be mounted, mount -a might help
[04:12] <mcrandello> or what xTina said ;)
[04:12] <mdke> what is ~/.local/share/applications all about? can i remove it?
[04:13] <xTina> mdke: why would you want to?
[04:13] <Tomcat_> Hi xTina ;)
[04:13] <xTina> Tomcat_: hey :)
[04:13] <reiki_work> xTina: I just added a mount for usb flash drives... and rebooted to get it working
[04:13] <reiki_work> so mount -a will check fstab to see what to do?
[04:14] <mcrandello> yes
[04:14] <mdke> xTina, well one of the entries has been annoying me for a while, and I just wondered what the point of the directory as a whole is
[04:14] <reiki_work> cool
[04:14] <xTina> reiki_work: mount -a will mount everything that's declared in there
[04:14] <reiki_work> xTina: perfect... thanks
[04:14] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: how's it coming?
[04:15] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: some gentoo guy sitting next to me told me not to mess with my fstab... he said that won't provide automounting?
[04:15] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: Automounting is done somewhere else, right.
[04:15] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: he's wrong...  I just did this night before last
[04:16] <ambrose_> wanna chat?
[04:16] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: and mine works
[04:16] <tmulle> hi
[04:16] <tmulle> anyone runny hoary or breezy on a dual athlon 1800+ MP with the s2460 chipset?
[04:16] <fluffybunny_> Tomcat_: reiki_work: wrong, right? who's right? essentially, what I want to be able to do is plug in a usb drive and have a window pop up with the files, ala WinXP style
[04:16] <tmulle> running
[04:17] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: That should work out of the box in Ubuntu... if not you might have broken it. :) But it certainly doesn't work using fstab.
[04:17] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: what I'm telling you to do is what *I* was instructed to do here on this channel for all to see and believe me it works now. And before it was doing exactly what happened to you... mount once, then problems
[04:17] <dazvid> wine is giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2154 , where is that reg key stored?
[04:18] <sanketmedhi> ubotu, gimp
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[04:18] <fluffybunny_> Tomcat_: i've broken a lot of things... :( it did used to work... i messed around with sysvconfig and changed some stuff, now I have HAL! errors and acpi errors on login , plus this thing
[04:18] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: You can always try what others are saying... nothing against trying. :o
[04:18] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: mine didn't work "out of the box" either
[04:18] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: thanks, will try it now - will I have to reboot first?\
[04:18] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  try just running mount -a
[04:18] <mdke> if hal isn't working that is likely to be the cause of your problems fluffybunny_
[04:18] <reiki_work> errr..
[04:18] <reiki_work> typing mount -a
[04:19] <Tomcat_> dazvid: ~/.wine/*.reg
[04:19] <tmulle> my machine locks up during install when it tries to run HAL
[04:19] <dazvid> Tomcat_: there are 3 .reg files, none of them have the HKEY_CURRENT setting.. ;S
[04:19] <fluffybunny_> mdke: what is hal and how can I fix it?
[04:20] <reiki_work> Tomcat_: seriously... am I giving her bad info? It was what I was told to do and it worked. I don't want to be giving people bad information and I'm kinda new myself so please if I'm screwing this up ... I am not offended to be told so
[04:20] <mdke> fluffybunny_, i don't know much about it i'm afraid. I believe hal controls how your system reacts to new devices that are added to your system
[04:20] <notnilC> help for a noob please .. i have finally somehow got something outta this ubuntu .. i can access the internet with xchat .. but nothing else
[04:20] <setite> !dma
[04:20] <dave______> hi... question... my system beeps on startup, just before the GUI kicks in... how do i get rid of this?
[04:21] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Make a backup of the file you are changing, then change any one of them... omit the CURRENT_CONFIG.
[04:21] <mdke> fluffybunny_, but i can't give you any concrete help I'm afraid
[04:21] <notnilC> scrap that request for help ...
[04:21] <notnilC> there seems to be only certain things i can't access on the net with firefox
[04:22] <notnilC> anyone got ideas on why that it?
[04:22] <notnilC> is?
[04:22] <reiki_work> notnilC: might help if you define "certain things" you can't access
[04:22] <xbaez> hi i'm new in ubuntu and i want to upgrade my hoary installation to breezy
[04:22] <notnilC> most websites
[04:22] <osfameron> heh
[04:23] <sipior> notnilC: maybe you have ecn turned on?
[04:23] <notnilC> ecn?
[04:23] <osfameron> notnilC: give 1 url, and exactly what happens when you try?
[04:23] <xbaez> i need to change the sources.list  and put breezy right ?
[04:23] <dazvid> Tomcat_: again, the "CURRENT_CONFIG" isn't in any of the *.reg
[04:23] <brenner> enyc: still there? sorry it took so long, i need to get more RAM
[04:23] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: you all set? I have to get some quotes done. :) (I'm at work)
[04:23] <sipior> notnilC: what is in the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp
[04:23] <notnilC> i type www.hotmail.com and it comes up saying "connection was refused"
[04:23] <sipior> err... /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
[04:23] <reiki_work> BlueEagle: you alive?
[04:23] <osfameron> xbaez: I think the advice is still "If you don't know how to do it, don't do it" for breezy
[04:24] <Tomcat_> dazvid: As I said, omit the CURRENT_CONFIG, add the registry key whereever you want.
[04:24] <osfameron> xbaez: (cos it's not released yet)
[04:24] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hmm, either mount -a didn't work, or the line I added to fstab doesn't work... /dev/sda1	/mnt/temp	vfat	noauto,user  0  0
[04:25] <sipior> notnilC: different problem, then. can you ping the same sites?
[04:25] <xbaez> osfameron, oh! i see ... i want use php5 but when i search with the hoary sources, it not appear
[04:25] <osfameron> can you open hotmail.com with Linux! ?
[04:25] <notnilC> sipior, yes
[04:25] <osfameron> xbaez: oh, I'm fairly sure php is in there somewhere
[04:25] <sipior> notnilC: do you have a web proxy turned on?
[04:25] <notnilC> i don't think so
[04:26] <notnilC> im pretty sure i dont
[04:26] <brenner> enyc: ping
[04:26] <sipior> have a look in your browser config
[04:26] <dazvid> Tomcat_: Sorry, i dont really understand what you are wanting me to do
[04:26] <Tomcat_> dazvid: I'm reading the wine docs right now, what I said is incorrect anyway.
[04:26] <xbaez> oscarh, really ? ok , i'm looking for it ... thanks :)
[04:26] <notnilC> im using firefox .. where exactly am i looking??
[04:26] <dazvid> Ah ok
[04:26] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... well... mine worked after a reboot, but I was told that mount -a would do what's in fstab. Hopefully I've given you the correct syntax, but if it matches up with the other similar lines in there it should work
[04:26] <osfameron> xbaez: oh, I appear to have php4 installed, not 5
[04:27] <occy> bob2, I think you are right.  :(
[04:27] <occy> major suckage
[04:27] <fluffybunny_> ok... i will reboot... what if the drive isn't in there when I boot? will it complain?
[04:27] <sipior> notnilC: Edit->Preferences->General->Connection
[04:27] <brenner> while i'm waiting, has anyone heard of cpu usage constantly being at 50% in the CPU monitor, but system monitor and 'top' show CPU usage close to 0?
[04:27] <enyc> brenner: pong
[04:27] <Tomcat_> reiki_work: I have no idea if you are giving wrong information... I only know really well about a few fields, and just from experience, my automount devices are not in fstab... :)
[04:27] <enyc> brenner: that was a LONG 5 minutes!
[04:27] <qt2> woah
[04:27] <brenner> enyc: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2155
[04:27] <qt2> TONS of ubuntu updates today? <.<;
[04:27] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I had that same question.... no... that's why the noauto is in there
[04:27] <occy> bob2, I was able to get my personal files backed up... and synced with unison. So... I guess I could just nuke and re-install
[04:27] <brenner> enyc: i know, sorry...the boot processing kept stopping on me for some reason
[04:27] <Tomcat_> reiki_work: Usually, automount stuff is set in some other config file. But as I told fluffybunny_, trying out is nothing bad to do :o
[04:27] <occy> *sigh*
[04:27] <xbaez> osfameron, ah ok
[04:27] <brenner> s/processing/process
[04:28] <jdermer> is there azureus of ubuntu ?
[04:28] <enyc> 0000:00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4378 (rev 02)
[04:28] <jdermer> for 8
[04:28] <notnilC> ok google now works .. but hotmail don't
[04:28] <enyc> I don't recognize that modem/device  brenner
[04:28] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: before you reboot... can you paste your fstab file into the pastebin?
[04:28] <brenner> enyc: so what should i do?
[04:28] <occy> reiki_work, think breezy is stable enough to use now on a daily basis?
[04:28] <brenner> enyc: it's a compaq presario....maybe that's the problem. :-(
[04:29] <qt2> why are theer like... 50x updates at once today? <.<;
[04:29] <reiki_work> occy: I really am no expert, but I won't install it myself till it's ready... BECAUSE I'm no expert :)
[04:29] <brenner> enyc: i also had a look a the device manager...pretty much everything is unknown...
[04:29] <enyc> bren: I dont know what the device is... you MAY get some help pasting that line to  linmodems.org  mailing lists
[04:29] <occy> reiki_work, hehe, nod.
[04:29] <osfameron> xbaez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php5 looks useful
[04:29] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Your error message is scattered all over the web in wine mailing lists and websites... I'm sorry, I guess I can't help you...
[04:30] <notnilC> now sipior hotmail won't load .. and i can't get GAIM messenger to connect ....
[04:30] <enyc> bren: its priobably not worth bothering, though ;-) -- just use a  COM (serial) port  external hardware modem...  or something
[04:30] <brenner> enyc: *sigh* ...ok
[04:30] <setite> i cnat get dma to turn on
[04:30] <dazvid> No probs, thanks for looking
[04:30] <brenner> enyc: thanks anyway
[04:30] <enyc> there are a lot of rubbish modems about!
[04:30] <dazvid> No solutions in those mailing lists?
[04:30] <sipior> notnilC: but you can ping hotmail?
[04:30] <enyc> linmodems.org has most details of them...
[04:30] <setite> and i added amd74xxx to my /etc/modules like i had to last time
[04:30] <notnilC> yes
[04:30] <setite> any other possibilities?
[04:30] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2156
[04:30] <sipior> notnilC: try another browser?
[04:30] <notnilC> ok .. ...
[04:31] <occy> argh
[04:31] <xbaez> osfameron, thank you !
[04:31] <occy> my stupid site theme is fuxx0red
[04:31] <Tomcat_> dazvid: No idea... I really have to do some stuff, I can't read hundreds of websites for you... I'm pretty sure you can do that. :)
[04:31] <dazvid> lol
[04:32] <dazvid> Yes I was just wondering if you came across one ;)
[04:32] <dazvid> Thanks anyways.
[04:32] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you mount it as /mnt/temp it won't show up on your desktop as far as I know. I mounted mine as /media/usbdisk and I had to create the /media/usbdisk directory for this to work.
[04:32] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Nah, not on the first sight. But it's good to know many people have that problem... there is either a solution or there will soon be one.
[04:32] <notnilC> i can't get to another site to try a different browser
[04:32] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: /mnt/data and /mnt/windows appear on my desktop?
[04:33] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: there MUST be another way to do this because teh automount system was dynamically creating and removing the mount point. The methos I just told you requires the mount point to be there apparently
[04:33] <sipior> notnilC: not sure i follow you. the browser is on the local machine?
[04:33] <masa22> ojla folkk
[04:33] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... then looks fine
[04:33] <notnilC> yes
[04:33] <qt2> jdermer: they have Azureus in synaptic.
[04:33] <sipior> notnilC: and it doesn't work either?
[04:34] <notnilC> im just using what came when i installed ubuntu
[04:34] <setite> damnit it wont turn on
[04:34] <PuGz> hey everyone!
[04:34] <setite> why is my dma being so stubborn
[04:34] <PuGz> i just installed and am running ubuntu breezy
[04:34] <PuGz> its nice
[04:34] <PuGz> i like it
[04:34] <sipior> setite: is dma supported on the drive?
[04:34] <setite> yes
[04:35] <setite> i had dma yesterday
[04:35] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: I am going to look around on google to see if I can't fix the HAL error first --> apparently, hal controls the mounting of cdroms and other removable media (or so I understand), so maybe if I fix that, it will come back?
[04:35] <setite> and i had to reinstall
[04:35] <jdermer> PuGz, welcome
[04:35] <setite> because breezy pissed me off
[04:35] <PuGz> it has a few bugs... but not too bad!
[04:35] <setite> now i had to add amd74xxx to the /etc/modules last tiem.. and ive done that...
[04:35] <PuGz> usable (for a month... until official release)
[04:35] <sipior> notnilC: is hotmail the only site you can't reach? maybe a certificate problem?
[04:35] <notnilC> nope
[04:35] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you find anything I'd like to know cause mine was busted too..... well not my HAL... at least not that I know of.
[04:35] <notnilC> now can't use google either
[04:36] <sipior> notnilC: all right, i'm officially baffled. maybe the problem is the underlying network?
[04:36] <notnilC> oh crap
[04:36] <harrytuttle> oh, dma. can't enable it on /dev/hdc of my ibook g4. any other with apple hardware and the same problem?
[04:36] <setite> oh i know what i did wrong
[04:36] <setite> i forgot to add ide-core
[04:36] <fluffybunny_> i don't suppose anyone here can help with HAL! errors? the ubuntu forums seem to be a bunch of people saying "me too" or "here is a hack that makes it work"... not encouraging
[04:36] <setite> its amd74xxx and ide-core above ide-cd
[04:37] <PuGz> there is one bug which is really annoying me! its in evolution. I have my mail on my isp which i get through imap. My Inbox folder gets mail in it and also has subfolders for sent, drafts etc. Evolution recognises that Inbox exists and it has subfolders. I can read all mail in those subfolders... but the mail in Inbox is not readable (when i click on inbox... there is an empty pane on the right where the emails should be)
[04:37] <setite> brb
[04:37] <sipior> notnilC: do you have a firewall between you and the outside world?
[04:37] <selinium> Hi all, I am having probs burning an iso, it says that the cd is not balnk but it deffinately is, Just used kb3 and that worked but did not create the live cd just wrote the iso to the disc
[04:37] <notnilC> yes
[04:37] <PuGz> strange thing is that if you right click and say properties, it recognises that it has 6 emails in it
[04:37] <notnilC> on the router
[04:38] <PuGz> anyone else have this problem
[04:38] <PuGz> ?
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: maybe outgoing http is blocked to certain sites
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: though it admittedly seems rather random
[04:38] <notnilC> works with winxp
[04:38] <qt2> err, what's the quicket way to restart x without rebooting?
[04:38] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to run Standalone IE from Evolt with wine, but it's not working, any idea? shall I move the dll to somewhere?
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: hmm. sorry, without seeing the machine directly, i'm out of things to try
[04:39] <qt2> err, best even
[04:39] <notnilC> bugger
[04:39] <selinium> qt2: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:39] <qt2> selinium: right.... i've gotta reenable that... <.<;
[04:39] <PuGz> qt2: i second that
[04:39] <fluffybunny_> can anyone tell me what the default boot script options are - I messed around in sysvconfig, and thats when all my trouble started, and I dont' remember what I turned on and what I swicthed off....
[04:39] <qt2> Madeye: it's best to manually install IE with wine.
[04:40] <qt2> Madeye: hold on a moment, and i'l give you some proper instructions on how to do it.
[04:40] <Madeye> qt2,  i'm web developer, so I need to test sites with more than one version of IE, thats why I want to use standalone version
[04:41] <selinium> Any ideas why I cant write to cd from right click/write to disc?
[04:41] <gnonthgol> Madeye: I think its best not install IE at all, install Firefox
[04:41] <selinium> From an iso
[04:41] <setite> woot dma back
[04:41] <setite> i was spelling the module wrong
[04:41] <setite> its amd74xx.. not xxx
[04:42] <jurp5> hello
[04:42] <gnonthgol> hi
[04:42] <setite> hola compadre
[04:42] <qt2> Madeye: i see, well installing any version of IE is complicated right now, you might want to try using wine cvs and asking for help in #winehq
[04:42] <selinium> hi setite
[04:42] <PuGz> is there an irc channel for evolution were I can ask about this bug i am having?
[04:42] <jdermer> ubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?
[04:42] <setite> whats up selinium
[04:42] <jurp5> is it save to change now to breezy or is it too buggy
[04:42] <qt2> anyways, brb, gotta reboot my window manager.
[04:43] <selinium> For some reason I can't burn an ISO to disc anymore! It keeps saying to put a blank disc in, i know it is!
[04:44] <jdermer> anyone?
[04:44] <fl> hi there
[04:44] <jdermer> ubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?
[04:44] <selinium> jdermer, give people a chance! Take a look at firestrater or smoothwall
[04:45] <njan> jdermer, it has netfilter and iptables; if you want something friendly to configure them with, try firestarter.
[04:45] <fl> question - to recompile the kernel with another compiler - install the source package and run debian/rules ?
[04:45] <selinium> jdermer, firestarter
[04:45] <jdermer> no i dont want 1
[04:45] <njan> jdermer, or.. if you want something friendly to use iptables to configure netfilter, I should say.
[04:45] <jdermer> im wondering if ubuntu comes with 1
[04:45] <jurp5> does breezy works good for you?
[04:45] <jdermer> because for some reason azureus wont detect its port as being open
[04:46] <jdermer> even tho i have it forwarded in my router
[04:46] <BockBilbo> hello
[04:46] <setite> firestarter is the iptable gui right?
[04:46] <selinium> jdermer, if you haven't installed it then you have not got one!
[04:46] <selinium> setite: yep
[04:46] <setite> i need that
[04:46] <BockBilbo> any of you has managed to get fglrx work in breezy? I managed to make it work on hoary.. but now i cant using breezy... anyone?
[04:46] <setite> and yes i know where to get it
[04:47] <i0wa> ubuntu does support windows games?
[04:48] <BockBilbo> i0wa, no. do u can try cedega on ubuntu
[04:48] <BockBilbo> its not gpl though
[04:48] <BockBilbo> wine might work for some crapy games
[04:48] <i0wa> oic
[04:48] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i am using fglrx in breezy
[04:48] <i0wa> ty
[04:48] <PuGz> BockBilbo: but glxgears is funny... its all a bit strange
[04:49] <BockBilbo> PuGz, does the 3d acc work? which ati card?
[04:49] <occy> I've looked through the du man pages, and I can't see how to sort the output of du from biggest size to smallest
[04:49] <GuBA_> i have a problem with my mouse wireless ... the receptor is a USB ... please helpme
[04:49] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i dont think 3d is working... ati firegl mobility t2
[04:50] <PuGz> BockBilbo: when i try to run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:50] <PuGz> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[04:50] <GuBA_> my PC is a HP Pavilion w5030 ...
[04:50] <PuGz> (second line only happens once killed)
[04:50] <BockBilbo> PuGz, :S sucks so... PuGz if you do fglrxinfo, does it say fglrx ati driver?
[04:50] <BockBilbo> or mesa something?
[04:50] <setite> where does firestarter go
[04:50] <guille__> Hi, I vahe a problem with rear chanel of mi SB live 5.1. I can't make it sound (I'm spanish sorry becouse of my english)
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i dont even have fglrxinfo!
[04:51] <Hackmo> hey all
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: but i should i think... the packages are installed!
[04:51] <BockBilbo> PuGz, sudo fglrxinfo
[04:51] <GuBA_> somebody with mouse wireless ???
[04:51] <Hackmo> anyone know of a tools that will tell you the distance between your laptop and an access point?
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: oops! not in path!
[04:51] <PuGz> hehe
[04:51] <BockBilbo> its on /us/X11R6/bin/, which is just on root's path and not o normal users
[04:51] <BockBilbo> ;)
[04:51] <BockBilbo> yeah
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: mesa
[04:52] <BockBilbo> PuGz, so u have the same prob as me
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: and that same error line as before
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: yep!
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: bug report!
[04:52] <BockBilbo> ... i remember that in hoary it used to show up fglrx somthing insteado f mesa..
[04:52] <BockBilbo> no.. i dont think its a bug
[04:53] <BockBilbo> its a problem related with configuration
[04:53] <PuGz> yeah... hoary worked
[04:53] <PuGz> why isnt it a bug?
[04:53] <occy> odd
[04:53] <occy> I can't seem to do ctrl+alt+F1
[04:53] <occy> to get at console.
[04:53] <occy> from the login screen at GDM
[04:53] <PuGz> BockBilbo: well... it really IS a bug... if we installed fglrx stuff... then it should work automatically... so not a bug with program... but with design?
[04:53] <BockBilbo> see.. i think the driver has been upgraded, i guess it has different config options
[04:53] <auTONYmous> I can't get gnomebaker to erase a DVD+RW
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i havent yet run fglrxconfig
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, have you taken a look to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: maybe thats it
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, yes
[04:54] <BockBilbo> try it out
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i merely changed ati to fglrx
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: ok
[04:54] <PuGz> gimme a min
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, i did the same thing
[04:54] <mchammer> hello could someone tell me howto move the open terminal entry on the top of the context menu?
[04:54] <netstar> Anyone running ubuntu on their mac?
[04:54] <mchammer> in breezy
[04:55] <bob2> netstar: lots of people do
[04:55] <bob2> it's easier if you just ask your question
[04:55] <BockBilbo> bob2, got a usplash question...
[04:55] <BockBilbo> may i go ahead?
[04:55] <bob2> as above
[04:55] <setite> best method is to just ask away... and pray for a pickup
[04:55] <BockBilbo> xD
[04:55] <markuma1> why i can t install firefox under breezy?
[04:55] <setite> but dont pester
[04:55] <bob2> asking to ask is more annoying than almost any question could be
[04:56] <bob2> markuma1: it was installable an hour ago
[04:56] <BockBilbo> sorry bob2 i just didnt want to bother :S
[04:56] <bob2> unless you have some el dodgo backport installed
[04:56] <BockBilbo> bob2, as i told you the last day, ive dist-upgraded to breezy from hoary, and cant make usplash work at boot
[04:56] <occy> man, you guys getting all the lame sexchat bot messages?
[04:57] <BockBilbo> ive tried dpkg-reconfigure for the runnig kernel and usplash... but nothing happens
[04:57] <markuma1> bob2, i have ubuntu breezy installed without gnome because of lineakd. so i installed only xfce. but there it is impossible to install firefox
[04:57] <reter> what is that website where you can post large text
[04:57] <PuGz> BockBilbo: done an fglrxconfig and restarted X... still same problem
[04:57] <BockBilbo> PuGz, just as it happens to me... :S sucks
[04:57] <bob2> reter: pastebin.ca or #flood
[04:57] <bob2> BockBilbo: what does 'uname -r' print?
[04:58] <BockBilbo> bob2, 2.6.12-8-686
[04:58] <bob2> markuma1: "impossible"?  /etc/apt/sources.list and error from apt to #flood
[04:58] <occy> bob2, just backing up my remaining files and I'm going to simply re-install.
[04:58] <PuGz> BockBilbo: just checked... Breezy uses 8.14.13 ati fglrx
[04:58] <occy> tarred up ~  so I can have my configs saved.
[04:58] <BockBilbo> yep.. i know.. PuGz i guess well have to figure out how to make it work..
[04:59] <bob2> occy: that won't help if the disk is broken, tho...
[04:59] <occy> bob2, quick question, is there a way I can do:   linux vesa    at boot?
[04:59] <BockBilbo> ive tried using the installer from the official ati site... it might work for you.. didnt for me
[04:59] <occy> bob2, I'm sure it's the funky driver misconfiguration.
[04:59] <occy> bob2, I'm certainly hopeing that's it.
[04:59] <bob2> occy: I don't know what that option would is supposed to do
[04:59] <BockBilbo> occy, change the grub menu.lst
[04:59] <bob2> heh
[04:59] <occy> heh
[04:59] <bob2> BockBilbo: you're completely up to date with breezy?
[05:00] <occy> I was trying to avoid manually picking vesa as the card.
[05:00] <BockBilbo> bob2, yes
[05:00] <BockBilbo> just downloaded the newest packages
[05:00] <bob2> occy: for X? I'd just pick it later.
[05:00] <bob2> BockBilbo: and what dpkg-reconfigure command are you running?
[05:00] <occy> bob2, hey, my bios has a hd checking tool
[05:00] <occy> maybe I should run that.
[05:01] <occy> heh
[05:01] <occy> here we go
[05:01] <occy> this'll take 62mins
[05:01] <occy> fun
[05:01] <BockBilbo> bob2, dpkg-reconfigure usplash && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-686
[05:02] <bob2> maybe dpkg-reconfigure -plow would work
[05:02] <BockBilbo> what is -plow for?
[05:02] <markuman> bob2: here is the sources.list, what happend is i try to install (with aptitude search mozilla-firefox i found it too). http://paste.debian.net/1890
[05:02] <netstar> for preparing ground for planting.
[05:03] <netstar> *groan*
[05:03] <markuman> and i type mozilla and 2time tab to show what is installed with "mozilla"
[05:04] <bob2> markuman: it's called firefox in breezy
[05:04] <BockBilbo> bob2, done the dpkg-reconfigure -plow of both packages.. should i reboot to see if it worked? or do i have to do any modification to /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:04] <BockBilbo> ?
[05:04] <markuman> bob2: oh f*cking damn thx
[05:04] <reter> i am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/22815
[05:05] <BockBilbo> */boot/grub/menu.ls
[05:05] <bob2> BockBilbo: you don't get a config option at all?
[05:06] <BockBilbo> what do you mean by a config option?
[05:06] <BockBilbo> y/n option?
[05:06] <bob2> the point of the dpkg-reconfigure call is to turn it on
[05:06] <BockBilbo> bob2,  this is what i get : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2157
[05:06] <reter> i am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/22815
[05:07] <BockBilbo> reter, please don repeat sentencies
[05:07] <bob2> BockBilbo: er, have you been getting that for the past few days you've been asking about this?
[05:08] <BockBilbo> bob2, yes
[05:08] <bob2> reter: that's not an error
[05:08] <bob2> BockBilbo: did you read it?
[05:08] <reter> reter, well its not upgrading
[05:08] <reter> hehe
[05:08] <reter> bob2, its not upgrading
[05:08] <bob2> BockBilbo: specifically the "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..." bit
[05:08] <BockBilbo> bob2, u talking about this Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...?
[05:08] <bob2> reter: hit q
[05:08] <BockBilbo> yes, ive read it
[05:08] <bob2> that seems like a pretty important avenue to explore
[05:08] <BockBilbo> but i read in the forum that its related to the grub splash image
[05:09] <bob2> where do splash images come from?
[05:09] <bob2> ok
[05:09] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.. would anyone know why the version of Firefox i download with synaptic is so slow?
[05:09] <reter> what do i do next?
[05:09] <Trackilizer> I don't mean the browser itself.
[05:09] <BockBilbo> bob2, am i wrong?
[05:09] <bob2> reter: read what it says?
[05:09] <thenuke> Trackilizer: so you mean what then :)
[05:09] <Trackilizer> I mean scrowling down the bookmarks.
[05:09] <bob2> BockBilbo: I don't know
[05:10] <BockBilbo> :S sucks..
[05:10] <thenuke> Trackilizer: ah ok. well I dont have a glue about that :)
[05:10] <Trackilizer> Or the time it takes to open a new Tab.
[05:10] <thenuke> Trackilizer: and you dont have very old hardware?
[05:10] <BockBilbo> bob2, didnt you have this problem? or u just dont use usplash?
[05:10] <Trackilizer> It takes over 2 secs to open a new tab.
[05:10] <bob2> I don't use breezy
[05:10] <bob2> BockBilbo: look in your menu.lst
[05:10] <Trackilizer> 1.7GHz a gig of Ram
[05:10] <bob2> you should have a "splash" boot option
[05:11] <BockBilbo> bob2, i have it
[05:12] <Trackilizer> I uninstalled Firefox and installed the version from thier website but the plugins i installed didn't work.
[05:12] <Trackilizer> And i wanted to know, how do i install stuff into "usr/bin".
[05:12] <Trackilizer> I tried that.
[05:12] <Trackilizer> But i don't have permision.
[05:12] <reter>  #318176 - imagemagick in combination with transcode fails (amd64)
[05:12] <reter>    Merged with: 325651 325720
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of gnome-system-tools (1.2.0-0ubuntu6 -> 1.4.0-0ubuntu1) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #309932 - boot-admin should not be in unstable
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of gs-esp (7.07.1-9ubuntu3 -> 7.07.1-9ubuntu5) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #323087 - gs-esp - cups driver fails with ENOENT
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of aptitude (0.2.15.8-1ubuntu12 -> 0.2.15.9-3ubuntu4) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #321889 - aptitude uninstallable on experimental
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of libpango1.0-0 (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #321832 - Applications linked to libpango1.0-0 SIGSEGV
[05:13] <reter> grave bugs of libpango1.0-common (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>
[05:13] <reter>  #325361 - libpango1.0-common: Postinstallation script dies because /etc/defoma/config/pango.conf has not been unpacked
[05:13] <reter> Summary:
[05:13] <reter>  xserver-xorg(2 bugs), gthumb(1 bug), gaim(1 bug), libsqlite3-0(1 bug), xlibs(1 bug), gksu(3 bugs), postfix(1 bug), libdjvulibre15(1 bug), libopenal0(1 bug), bogofilter-bdb(1 bug), alsa-utils(1 bug), evolution(6 bugs), python-apt(1 bug), nautilus(1 bug), libmagick6(1 bug), xbase-clients(2 bugs), gnome-system-tools(1 bug), clamav(1 bug), eog(1 bug), gs-esp(2 bugs), w3m(1 bug), gedit(1 bug), bluez-utils(1 bug), aptitude(4 bugs), libpango1
[05:13] <reter> .0-0(1 bug), synaptic(2 bugs), xscreensaver(1 bug), libpango1.0-common(1 bug), sound-juicer(1 bug), libruby1.8(1 bug), lvm2(1 bug), evince(2 bugs)
[05:13] <BockBilbo> reter dont pase that here
[05:13] <reter> what does this mean
[05:13] <bob2> reter: dude, stop it
[05:13] <reter> argh
[05:13] <bob2> it means you installed apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs and don't know what they do
[05:13] <reter> i would like some help upgrading pls
[05:13] <Trackilizer> So would anyone have an answer to my question?+
[05:13] <bob2> Trackilizer: don't install stuff to /usr/bin/
[05:13] <BockBilbo> reter
[05:14] <BockBilbo> reter, do this : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:14] <Trackilizer> I see.
[05:14] <bob2> Trackilizer: put it in /usr/local/
[05:14] <Trackilizer> So where should i install stuff?
[05:14] <reter> i did that BockBilbo
[05:14] <bob2> Trackilizer: or into your home directory
[05:14] <bob2> reter: why did you install apt-listbugs to begin with?
[05:14] <Trackilizer> All stuff installed by synaptic are in there aswell.
[05:14] <auTONYmous> how can I change the permissions so that cdrecord and gnomebaker work with my DVD drive?
[05:14] <bob2> reter: and just say yes to it again
[05:14] <reter> because someone told me to do it...they though i had bugs
[05:14] <bob2> auTONYmous: what does that have to do with permissions?
[05:14] <bob2> reter: then they're dumb
[05:14] <BockBilbo> check your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment all non official ubuntu repositores
[05:15] <bob2> reter: and don't do things just because peopel tell you to
[05:15] <bob2> reter: now say yes to it and continue on
[05:15] <reter> so right now what do i do
[05:15] <bob2> and if you flood again you will be banned
[05:15] <auTONYmous> I can read the drive, but gnomebaker won't burn...looks like cdrecord may not be suid right...
[05:15] <reter> i have had said yes to it
[05:15] <reter> and i get the same
[05:15] <auTONYmous> and the drive has ro for all except root
[05:16] <BockBilbo> anyone here uses breezy with the usplash working?
[05:16] <bob2> reter: then stop, get rid of it and carry on
[05:16] <bob2> BockBilbo: that's not useful either, it Just Works for nearly everyone else
[05:16] <bob2> BockBilbo: you really never did anything weird?
[05:16] <reter> sigh bob2
[05:16] <bob2> auTONYmous: run it under root
[05:16] <reter> you are so arragant
[05:16] <bob2> reter: stop being so useless then
[05:16] <reter> i do not know what these messages are
[05:16] <BockBilbo> bob2, i just want to know if in /boot/grub/menu.list they have usplash instead of splash in the kernel option
[05:16] <reter> all i want to do right now is upgrade to breezy
[05:17] <bob2> reter: sudo apt-get remove apt-listchanges apt-listbugs
[05:17] <bob2> reter: then be quiet and do what I've suggsted
[05:17] <auTONYmous> bob2: what, cdrecord?
[05:17] <BockBilbo> reter dont upgrade to breezy
[05:17] <Trackilizer> bob2, i can install stuff into the folder you said without any problems?
[05:17] <Trackilizer> I won't have permision probs?
[05:17] <bob2> auTONYmous: yes, tell gnomebaker or whatever to run it with sudo
[05:17] <bob2> Trackilizer: not if you're the first user created on the system
[05:17] <auTONYmous> alright, now you have lost me
[05:17] <reter> why not BockBilbo ?
[05:18] <BockBilbo> PuGz, u there?
[05:18] <Trackilizer> I am the only user on the system.
[05:18] <bob2> Trackilizer: then you'll be fine
[05:18] <bob2> auTONYmous: just run the whole thing under sudo then
[05:18] <BockBilbo> reter, because it still unstable. Wait one month until the stable release
[05:18] <Trackilizer> Ok, i'll try that.
[05:18] <bob2> auTONYmous: sudo gnomebaker
[05:18] <Trackilizer> Thank's
[05:18] <BockBilbo> reter, just upgrade if you really now what you are doing and know how to fix most problems you will encounter
[05:19] <Trackilizer> The other thing i wanted to know was: how come the firefox plugins won't work if i install firefox myself?
[05:19] <bob2> that depends entirely on how you set it up
[05:19] <bob2> and is more a #firefox or whatever question, not a #ubuntu one
[05:19] <Trackilizer> They only seem to work if firefox was installed with synaptic.
[05:19] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, iguess its because you install firefox in other location than the one from the ubuntu package
[05:20] <GoClick> Using apt is there a way I can list installed packages or better yet see what's installed that contains *apache*
[05:20] <Trackilizer> Well, that's why i was trying to install into usr/bin
[05:20] <bob2> dpkg -l | grep "^ii.*apache"
[05:21] <bob2> just stay out of /usr/bin entirely
[05:21] <Trackilizer> I guess i'll just try some other browsers.
[05:21] <bob2> ubunt upackages go there, nothing you install manually should
[05:21] <auTONYmous> bob2: crashing. Looks like DVD+_RW-format is horked also...
[05:21] <Trackilizer> And hope they will work.
[05:21] <GoClick> thanks bob
[05:21] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, why dont u use firefox?
[05:22] <bob2> BockBilbo: did anyone reply to your post to the mailing list?
[05:22] <auTONYmous> bob2: screw it...I'm going NeroLinux
[05:22] <BockBilbo> bob2, i didnt send any mail to the mailing list
[05:22] <thrice`> auTONYmous, lol...
[05:23] <bob2> auTONYmous: ok...
[05:23] <bob2> BockBilbo: oh
[05:23] <BockBilbo> bob2, let me check the latest emails in the list, maybe someone had the same prob
[05:23] <draug_n> guy/say guys, i think i seriousl
[05:23] <BockBilbo> otherwise, ill send a message.. brb, going to gmail
[05:24] <digitize> Trackilizer: with apt, just do apt-cache search apache
[05:24] <digitize> it'll list all apache related pkgs and say if they're installed or not
[05:24] <bob2> no it doesn't
[05:24] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about ndiswrapper
[05:24] <digitize> oh yeah it doesn't.... hrmmm, i thought there was a cmd like that
[05:25] <digitize> errr, i'm thinking gentoo
[05:25] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about webcam
[05:25] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about remote
[05:25] <bob2> aptitude shows similar information
[05:25] <bob2> cheesie: you can talk to the bot in /msg, too
[05:26] <_sunzi_> hi
[05:26] <BockBilbo> bob2, ive fount an email from 2 days ago that says this: "do dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version of kernel you're running>
[05:26] <BockBilbo> so it'll rebuild the initrd image to include it".. just as we've done.. i guess it doesnt rebuild the initrd image
[05:26] <BockBilbo> (sorry for the flood.. my bad)
[05:27] <HumpBack> Does the ubuntu livecd come with gcc+gdb+ddd ?
[05:28] <bob2> HumpBack: no
[05:28] <bob2> yo ucan install it, tho
[05:29] <cheesie> bob2
[05:29] <cheesie> how
[05:29] <bob2> how what?
[05:29] <HumpBack> bob2: the idea was to use the livecd and no hard drive files
[05:30] <auTONYmous> Now, if only we could get Nero to make it using GTK...
[05:30] <draug_n> exit
[05:31] <auTONYmous> gotta go...
[05:31] <bob2> HumpBack: indeed, you can install into the image the livecd runs from
[05:31] <bob2> assuming you have sufficient ram
[05:31] <chase> anyone ken if theres any projects out to make built in card readers usable?
[05:32] <sig> morning
[05:32] <sig> chase: my built in card reader for my laptop works fine
[05:33] <sig> shouldn't have to do anything special at all.
[05:34] <cheesie> bob2 where can i get a good web authoring package
[05:34] <setite> !surroundsound
[05:34] <ubotu> setite: Syntax error in line 1
[05:35] <markuman> bob2, are you a part of ubuntu? you are always here and you are always answered?
[05:36] <PuGz> BockBilbo: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13538
[05:36] <egglet> hi guys, does anyone have any experience trying to get ubuntu to work as a linux wifi router?
[05:37] <fluffybunny_> is upgrading to breezy eezy?
[05:37] <fluffybunny_> is it like a reinstall - will I lose programs etc that I have installed?
[05:37] <mjr> fluffybunny_, it is, you won't, but don't do it yet
[05:37] <setite> no fluffybunny_
[05:37] <mjr> fluffybunny_, it's like installing security updates, only more so ;)
[05:37] <setite> fluffybunny_, its an upgrade of the packages that need it...
[05:37] <fluffybunny_> mjr: why?
[05:37] <setite> its not worht it yet imo
[05:37] <mjr> fluffybunny_, because breezy isn't released yet
[05:38] <osfameron> will you get the benefits of improved hardware detection etc. if you upgrade?
[05:38] <BockBilbo> PuGz, im talking a look to it
[05:38] <setite> its sorta broken
[05:38] <osfameron> or would you need to do a clean install for that?
[05:38] <fluffybunny_> mjr: so its not stable?
[05:38] <setite> jkr
[05:38] <mjr> no, it is not
[05:38] <fluffybunny_> mjr: I'm just looking to fix my HAL! error...
[05:39] <PuGz> BockBilbo: what do you mean?
[05:39] <cheesie> howd i remote into a ubuntu computer from another location, what software do i need
[05:39] <nightswim> ssh
[05:39] <BockBilbo> PuGz, that im reading the bugzilla page;)
[05:40] <PuGz> ahhh
[05:40] <setite> how do i get real 5.1 in kaffeinne
[05:41] <cheesie> whos the owner of this channel?
[05:42] <deFrysk> !ops
[05:42] <ubotu> it has been said that ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[05:44] <fluffybunny_> :( i can't see my cd-rom... i mean, its there in /media/cdrom, but its empty :( this is related to the hal problem, isn't it?
[05:45] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, you have a cd inserted ?
[05:45] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: yes
[05:46] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: just curious... are you a member of the plugdev group on your machine?
[05:46] <deFrysk> then it must be some bug yes
[05:46] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: plugdev? whats that?
[05:46] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: i'm a n00b to linux - switched from windows a few months ago
[05:47] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I've been googling all over the place about the flash drive and one thing that came up in a couple places is that the user has to be in the plugdev group. Not sure how that pertains to the cdrom problem
[05:47] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I switched from xp to ubuntu about 3 and a half weeks ago
[05:48] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hmmm... I've been googling and its seems that the hal error that pops up on boot/login is related (apparently hal controls removable storage devices, like cds and usb disks)
[05:48] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you're having HAL issues, I would think that needs to be fixed before anything else and I really don't have the abilty to help you with that one
[05:48] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: i'm feeling like I am going to have to reinstall, which really sucks, like windows sucks
[05:48] <reiki_work> hahah
[05:48] <reiki_work> indeed
[05:48] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: what's the error and where do you see it?
[05:49] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: thanks - i figured as much, unfortunately, most of the stuff coming up in google is either (a) really hard core or (b) more people saying "hey, I have that problem too"
[05:50] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: its a dialog box that pops up, saying failed to initialise HAL!
[05:50] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: in Gnome, teh automounter is gnome-volume-manager and it uses udev and hald and probably more... to handle automounting. I'm just not finding a lot of info on HOW it does this :)
[05:51] <reiki_work> hmmm...
[05:51] <black_Nightmare> I know its more of hardware question than ubuntu talk but...anyone know about various older video cards to help with a simple question?
[05:52] <black_Nightmare> hmm this channel is strangely too quiet now....always someone talking
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> care to get into a little mroe details black_Nightmare ?
[05:52] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: the hal message comes up just before this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i2018
[05:53] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: by the way, do you do reiki?
[05:53] <black_Nightmare> dr_willis...you think that a 8mb vram card would be a good match with 300Amhz/128mb(soon to be 256mb maxxed)/2x-agp .. or 16mb cards probably could do without getting underused frequently?
[05:53] <black_Nightmare> it'll be a windows system anyhow..mainly for older games (mix of 2D and some 3D ones)
[05:53] <PuGz> nite all
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> black_Nightmare,  you are using some old cruddy 8mb video card? :P
[05:54] <black_Nightmare> I'm not really into today's games that much at all..just stick to the collection of older cd games I already have here (newest one would be Roller Coaster Tycoon I think)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> your question is still sort of vague... what other Options do you have? a 8 or 16 mb card? the kind of card may bne more of an issue then the ram
[05:55] <egglet> please can someone help me get dhcpd up and running with my wifi card?
[05:55] <fluffybunny_> back later - rebooting...
[05:55] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: yes, I am a Master/Teacher in Usui Shiki Ryoho Reiki
[05:56] <black_Nightmare> well I was wondering about getting a card and it not getting underused most of the times (like trying put sata hds with an early PI system for a quick example)
[05:56] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: cool - i did a few courses years ago (level 2), but I have fallen behind and forgotten how to do everything :|
[05:56] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ... this is maybe a bit odd... but have you tried starting your machine with an audio CD in teh cd drive?
[05:57] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: you never forget... it's like riding a bike :)
[05:57] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: not an audio cd - data cd... hang on, i will put one in when I reboot in a minute
[05:57] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: i've forgotten all the symbols, and my am surrounded by disbelievers anyway :)
[05:57] <black_Nightmare> or know what nevermind I might just get the 8mb card tomorrow and see how it fares compared to the bit-older-than card I've been using right now
[05:58] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: the symbols are only needed when you are beginning... to keep you focused. Once you feel teh flow you don't need them any more
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> black_Nightmare,  where are you even Finding 8mb cards? :P  heck - i think ive seen new 128mb video cards for like $30
[05:58] <black_Nightmare> willis...are these 128mb card fanless and yet run at less than 25C? I think not
[05:58] <black_Nightmare> plus again..this motherboard is only 2x agp (thats 3.3V yeah)
[05:59] <black_Nightmare> :p
[05:59] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: its a little odd, finding a reiki master on a linux channel --> usually, people who are into that kind of thing are completely anti-technology (I know, huge generalisation, but thats whats its been for the people i have met so far_
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> may want to track down a good old voodoo 3dfx card.  :)
[05:59] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: i don't count myself, of course ;)
[05:59] <reiki_work> heheh
[05:59] <black_Nightmare> hmm didn't think of that one...which voodoo series you thinking of?  or would any do
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> 16 MB 3dfx Voodoo3 3000G 2X AGP Video Card    - $12 on pricewatch
[06:00] <black_Nightmare> voodoo3
[06:00] <occy> bob2, hard drive pass the self-test just peachy.  So I'm guessing it is horked drivers.
[06:00] <occy> (Which is good news)
[06:00] <happy_broccoli> apt-get asks for the ubuntu cd. i want to download packages off the net. how
[06:01] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: rebooting now - back later
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> or course my problems ive seen with many games - is that some of them require specific card features.
[06:01] <fdr> Hello! After installing today's security updates (~50MB of x-related stuff) I noticed that, when I drag a window or an icon, I get black vertical lines instead of a cursor... is that a known problem? THANK YOU!
[06:01] <occy> fdr, this is with Hoary?
[06:02] <black_Nightmare> dr_willis...well mine have none..but I do think one of them had a version history that specified a bug fix with certain TNT2 cards :p
[06:02] <black_Nightmare> so I should be fine with just any previously-well-known cards
[06:02] <happy_broccoli> i figured it out if anyone cares
[06:03] <MacaveliMC> Can anyone help me figure out why Ubuntu does not recognize my cd-rom drive?
[06:03] <Waerner> Hey guys, is there any command like the windows command 'ipconfig /renew' in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <black_Nightmare> thanks for your help anyhow dr_willis
[06:03] <black_Nightmare> bye now ;-)
[06:03] <fdr> yes it is with hoary
[06:03] <Waerner> And it is...? :)
[06:03] <occy> fdr, ok, I haven't seen the problem, but it's good to note.
[06:04] <fdr> and I've just noticed that when I am running X and I switch to a console with C-A-F1 when I try to get back to x the screen is garbled
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> happy_broccoli,  you edited yoru apt.sources and commented out the cd at the start. :P
[06:04] <BockBilbo> gotta go
[06:04] <BockBilbo> bye!
[06:04] <fdr> (this is the reason I left and re-joined the channel btw)
[06:04] <happy_broccoli> Dr_Willis: i would have, but i did it through synaptic
[06:04] <MacaveliMC> Can anyone help me figure out why Ubuntu does not recognize my cd-rom drive?
[06:04] <fdr> occy: am I better file a bugreport on bugzilla ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  ive seen that issue with some cards and  X /console/Framebuffer driver conflict/issues
[06:05] <d2dchat> how do you run add commands to startup, say I wanted to mount my windows hd during startup so i dont have to everytime, how would i accomplish this?
[06:05] <occy> fdr, possibly, sorry, I don't really know. :(
[06:05] <Waerner> MacaveliMC: Doesn't Ubuntu recognize it at all?
[06:05] <fdr> Dr_Willis: I'm using an old matrox mga g200
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  egads.....
[06:05] <d2dchat> i know how to mount it, i just want to automate it on startup
[06:05] <G|Patrick> hi
[06:05] <fdr> Dr_Willis: egads? what do you mean?
[06:06] <G|Patrick> !bot ati drivers
[06:06] <ubotu> G|Patrick: What?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  i think i had one of those... years and years ago. :P
[06:06] <G|Patrick> !uboto find ati driver faq
[06:06] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, G|Patrick
[06:06] <fdr> haha :-)
[06:06] <G|Patrick> :(/
[06:06] <G|Patrick> !ati driver
[06:06] <ubotu> G|Patrick: What?
[06:06] <Benjamin_L> are ubuntu maintainers usually that arrogant ? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15111
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Matrox - had such a promiseing future.. and now.. ya rarely hear about them
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> sadly
[06:06] <G|Patrick> crap
[06:06] <Waerner> d2dchat: add this line to /etc/fstab:
[06:07] <G|Patrick> need help to get amarok working within gnome environment
[06:07] <G|Patrick> app loads but no sound
[06:07] <Waerner> d2dchat, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> 8MB Matrox Millennium G200 SGRAM AGP2x SGRAM G2+/MILA/8  ?
[06:07] <Waerner> d2dchat, where /media/windows is where you want to mount it, and /dev/hda1 is the partition
[06:08] <d2dchat> Waerner, hehe, those are the exact paths anyway;)
[06:08] <fdr> Dr_Willis: it's either that, or a close relative :-)
[06:08] <sorush20> Guys I can't open my KDE menu it just deisappers.. can someone help..
[06:08] <Waerner> d2dchat, well, just add it then ;D
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  heh $20 at pricewatch.com :P
[06:08] <d2dchat> can i use gedit?
[06:08] <Waerner> d2dchat, yep, works fine :)
[06:08] <sorush20> I can't even type addresses into firefox..
[06:08] <fdr> Dr_Willis: is this a nice way to say that ubuntu won't support my card? ;-)
[06:08] <d2dchat> awesome:)
[06:09] <sorush20> right click menu don't work
[06:09] <d2dchat> I do wish I knew VIM better though
[06:09] <Waerner> d2dchat, make a backup of the old fstab-file first if you want to
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  it works fine however untill you switch to the console and back?
[06:09] <d2dchat> its a bit daunting to learn that and ruby at the same time while wokring with clients
[06:09] <G|Patrick> crap... again
[06:09] <Waerner> hehe
[06:09] <G|Patrick> ubuntu says opera is a wrecked application
[06:09] <adjacent> can i set thunderbird to trust the security cert from my mail server even though its expired?
[06:09] <Belutz> bob2: are you there sir?
[06:09] <Waerner> I have a simple question to, as the noob I am...
[06:09] <G|Patrick> if i start synaptic it tries to delete it
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  try making a new user - and see if stuff works for him. if so - you some how managed to get your kde configs messed up.
[06:09] <adjacent> or do i always have to click ok when it warns me?
[06:09] <G|Patrick> but it worx
[06:09] <G|Patrick> i am usning it
[06:09] <G|Patrick> what the hell is goin on?
[06:10] <Waerner> Is there any way to re-new the DHCP-settings/network connection, simply, a reset of it
[06:10] <fdr> Dr_Willis: yes, with the exception that when dragging the cursor becomes a bunch of black vertical lines. when dragging ends, it gets back normal.
[06:10] <sorush20> Dr_Willis:  that is just not good enough.. I did nothing to mess things up.. I can't even load the kde menu
[06:10] <adjacent> Waerner: dhclient ethX
[06:10] <fdr> Dr_Willis: switching to/back from console completely garbles it. C-M-Backspace helps :-P
[06:10] <Waerner> adjacent, thanks alot =)
[06:10] <vanberge> has anybody seen recent ubuntu updates cause problems with nvidia drivers??
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  its more of an X issue i am guessing then ubuntu.. there proberly a few X config tweaks youi can do for that card to fix that Cursor issue.
[06:11] <adjacent> Waerner: of better, ifconfig ethX down;ifconfig ethX up;dhclient ethX
[06:11] <vanberge> X wont even start after my recent updates
[06:11] <fdr> Dr_Willis: strange thing is that it's worked until this morning
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  'not good enough' means you aint even going to try?
[06:11] <Waerner> adjacent, thanks again  =))
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  Hmm.. you useing the framebuffer on the console ?
[06:11] <fdr> Dr_Willis: I don't know... how do I check that?
[06:11] <sorush20> Dr_Willis: not good enough means I casn't access anything...
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  try the console?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  whast ubuntu version you using anyway?
[06:12] <sorush20> Dr_Willis: that is just it I can't run the console because it is in the KDE menu that dosen't load
[06:12] <fdr> Dr_Willis, 5.04
[06:12] <G|Patrick> helllooo
[06:12] <G|Patrick> :(
[06:12] <G|Patrick> am i ignored :(
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  try 'alt-ctrl-f1'
[06:13] <FaeWolfe> can someone help me?       I can't update anything using synaptic, update manager or terminal    I get different errors on each on
[06:13] <Waerner> FaeWolfe, can post some of them?
[06:14] <FaeWolfe> Waerner, one of the messages when I try to use synaptic is E: is not locked?
[06:14] <d2dchat> Waerner, fstab-backup :)
[06:14] <sorush20> Dr_Willis: is there anyway I can return the KDE to its normal state as a default...
[06:14] <Waerner> d2dchat? :o
[06:15] <vanberge> if anybody could help me....  my nvidia drive all the sudden doesnt load... X fails to start.  This after doing some of the most recent ubuntu updates.  Switching to original xorg.conf fixed, but now not using nvidia driver.  Thanks in advance!  :-)
[06:15] <vanberge> *driver*
[06:15] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, seems like you have done something to root - do this in a terminal - sudo apt-get update
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  go to the console.. delete/rename/move the  users .kdeXX   directories    to somthing like .kde_old and restart X/KDE
[06:15] <Waerner> FaeWolfe, nothing like "Unable to lock bla bla bla"?
[06:15] <esters> hi everyone
[06:16] <d2dchat> Waerner, You said fstab-file, i made it fstab-backup;)
[06:16] <FaeWolfe> Waerner, no..it gave me the message E: is not locked
[06:16] <FaeWolfe> ompaul, I do that and get this message   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:16] <Waerner> d2dchat, yeah, but I meant that you just should make a backup of the file fstab, call it whatever you want :P
[06:16] <FaeWolfe> when I run dpkg -configure, I get other errors
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> you would need to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:17] <Waerner> FaeWolfe, okay, I think it's bigger than my skills :-/
[06:17] <linuxboy> how do I change the colors that ls use ?
[06:17] <FaeWolfe> Dr_Willis, that's what I did
[06:17] <Waerner> haven't run it as root/sudo?
[06:17] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, did you do the -a?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> but i thouight -a was auto-fix.
[06:17] <d2dchat> Waerner, hehe:)
[06:18] <Waerner> d2dchat, let's see if it works after your next reboot ;)
[06:18] <freedomjazzdance> im having a problem, both computers on the router have the same ip
[06:18] <synic> anyone running rhythmbox on breezy?  I can't get it to play mp3s
[06:18] <FaeWolfe> ompaul, yes I did
[06:18] <d2dchat> haha, (scared)
[06:18] <d2dchat> lol jk
[06:18] <freedomjazzdance> linuxboy, man ls
[06:19] <NeoFax> Anyone now have a problem with the recent kdebase upgrade in breezy?
[06:19] <ompaul> freedomjazzdance, that has to do with the router having a bad day - it is not giving out more ip's shut one of the machines down and use the other to talk to the router and reconfigure it
[06:19] <linuxboy> freedomjazzdance: thats tells you how to *enable* colors, not change
[06:19] <esters> i have a problem with my HDD
[06:19] <esters> can anyone help
[06:19] <esters> please priv
[06:19] <esters> it's about partitions
[06:19] <NeoFax> I get libkdeinit_kfmclient.so is not a valid ELF file. Invalid beginning magic.
[06:19] <Smoking_n00b> I have attached an extra HDD i want to use as storage. in system/disks menu i see it as HDC. how do i enable access to it?
[06:19] <FaeWolfe> and this is what I get when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:19] <FaeWolfe> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 4923 package `libgnomeui-0':
[06:19] <FaeWolfe>  `Depends' field, reference to `liborbit2': version contains ` '
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> esters,  you may want to give a little summery here.
[06:19] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, just for laughs put /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:21] <FaeWolfe> ompaul. what is that?
[06:21] <freedomjazzdance> linuxboy, also at the end of the man page it says for complete manual "info coreutils ls"
[06:22] <freedomjazzdance> ompaul, well locally the ips are different
[06:23] <FaeWolfe> ompaul.........done
[06:23] <freedomjazzdance> ompaul, but i want to be able to at least forward :80, so people aren't getting my router
[06:23] <evian> hi
[06:24] <Waerner> Im outta here :)
[06:24] <evian> yesterday my screen was going at 75Hz, but today it is at 60Hz and giving me a headache. For some reason there is no option >60Hz in the resolution tool anymore
[06:24] <ompaul> freedomjazzdance, I responded to your first message, what you describe is normal
[06:25] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, will look now
[06:25] <evian> I need to fix this fast before my head explodes
[06:25] <evian> do I need to edit some X files?
[06:25] <FaeWolfe> ompaul        ok
[06:26] <ompaul> evian, even if I was in a position to deal with you demanding from volunteers does you no favours
[06:26] <esters> em
[06:26] <esters> guys
[06:27] <esters> i cannot access my second partition
[06:27] <evian> ompaul: you are mistaken to assume I was demanding anything
[06:27] <esters> cfdisk says fatal error
[06:27] <ompaul> doh!
[06:27] <esters> in the second partition i have Windows XP SP2
[06:27] <ompaul> have to go for a min :) or 20
[06:27] <evian> ompaul: good!
[06:27] <evian> make it 20
[06:28] <FaeWolfe> ompaul............                what am I looking at?
[06:28] <FaeWolfe> or for?
[06:28] <Gundjah> Hi
[06:28] <Gundjah> Can I redirect a bash command output to both file and screen?
[06:28] <freedomjazzdance> ompaul, but how do i fix it?
[06:28] <Waerner> Back with a new question ;)           3d acceleration, I THINK I have a working fglrx-config, but is there anyway to test it, or perhaps do some configuration?
[06:29] <ThreeDayMonk> Gundjah: not sure if bash has a built-in way (don't use it) but you can use tee
[06:30] <Gundjah> ThreeDay... can you give me a quick xample=
[06:30] <ThreeDayMonk> Gundjah: somecommand | tee foo.txt
[06:31] <ThreeDayMonk> you'll get the output of somecommand in foo.txt and on the console
[06:31] <Gundjah> Just what I want :-) Tnx wo/man.
[06:32] <freedomjazzdance> ompual, this is not the problem, it doesn't matter if both machines are on or not... if you typein the ip it will always give you the router] 
[06:32] <larsrohdin> how can I list images based on size? pixelsize that is... Is there a command or program that can do that?
[06:33] <esters> thanks for the help guys :(
[06:33] <evian> your welcome :)
[06:33] <ThreeDayMonk> larsrohdin: in the console?
[06:33] <Gundjah> Next one: How can I get WINE runnign on Ubuntu? apt-get don't give me a working system, keeps complaining about 16bit dlls
[06:33] <esters> ?
[06:33] <larsrohdin> ThreeDayMonk, for example.... but it could  be a gui-program to...
[06:33] <esters> wtf
[06:33] <esters> common can anyone help
[06:34] <esters> me
[06:34] <ThreeDayMonk> larsrohdin: identify (from imagemagick) can give you the dimensions; you can hack something up with sed and sort, I imagine
[06:34] <Gundjah> ester: what was yours?
[06:34] <esters> the problem
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> esters,  what is the problem.. dont msg people.
[06:34] <esters> is with the HDD
[06:34] <larsrohdin> ThreeDayMonk, ok ill look it up, thanks
[06:34] <ompaul> back
[06:35] <Gundjah> esters, state the problem pls
[06:35] <esters> eem
[06:35] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, tell me this what tool was used to get your sources file it is all over the place
[06:35] <esters> in the first partition i hava windows XP
[06:35] <esters> file system is NTFS
[06:35] <esters> in the second this one is ext3
[06:35] <esters> but i can't access the firs partition
[06:36] <mushtaq> hi is there a website to download qemu images i mean images for windowszzz
[06:36] <esters> first*
[06:36] <mushtaq> which have windows already installed ?
[06:36] <fdr> Dr_Willis: thank you for your help with the X issue, I've just filed a bug report
[06:36] <esters> yes
[06:36] <Gundjah> esters: from within Ubuntu, or doesn't it boot?
[06:36] <Trackilizer> Is there an app i can use to rip to .mp3 and not ogg?
[06:36] <esters> no no
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  lol - good luck on seeing it ever fixed. :P
[06:36] <esters> Gundjah, the problem is
[06:36] <GNUbiele> christel@freenode/staff/christel is a corrupt staff member. she sets modes on the staff social channel after some kids request it. just for the matter of personal motivated reasons. do you all support such a network?
[06:36] <Trackilizer> I want to use the files i download on my mp3 player.
[06:36] <Gundjah> est - no no what???
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Trackilizer,  grip can do either. dependong on the config you set up.
[06:36] <esters> that i can't access the first partiton
[06:36] <fdr> Dr_Willis:  .... does not sound like a good thing
[06:36] <Trackilizer> I see.
[06:36] <esters> cfdisk says error
[06:37] <anybody> esters when you sudo cfdisk /dev/hd* it doesnt work?
[06:37] <mushtaq> is there any one using qemu here ?
[06:37] <Trackilizer> I'll try that a little later.
[06:37] <Trackilizer> Thanks.
[06:37] <FaeWolfe> ompaul....I was getting assistance from someone the other night to install java
[06:37] <esters> anybody, i will try it now
[06:37] <anybody> esters, sudo fdisk -l to make sure you have correct hd lable;
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  ive seen that issue with a dozen fifferent cards/setups.. not sure what the deal is.  i think its some sort of memory getting used by both.. normally using the default 'console' not framebuiffer enabled console fix;s it for me.
[06:37] <anybody> label
[06:38] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, and did you get java installed?
[06:38] <fdr> Dr_Willis: how do I set the console/fb thing?
[06:38] <FaeWolfe> ompaul, it was installed, but still has errors
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  it SHOULD be using the default console. :P you just get a normal old console screen at boot right? no tux logo/ect.
[06:38] <kranebitt> Hello everyone, I tried to get a DVD to work der ubuntu but totem refused, saying that I needed an extra codec, something like libdvdcss but I wouldn't know where to get it and how to install it
[06:38] <slibs> hi!, i'd like to make so, that my another ubuntumachine is connected to straight to internet, and also connected to my local network, im going to make this with two network-cards, but is that possible, what do i have to do that it won't try to connect to the internet through my local network?
[06:38] <mushtaq> anyone using qemu ?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  so im not sure what else to try.
[06:39] <leopard> Was mplayer removed? I don't see it doing apt-search and I'm pretty sure I enabled everything in sources.list.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> mushtaq,  the legality of premade-windows hd images for that would be in question.
[06:39] <fdr> Dr_Willis : no, no psychopatic penguins at boot-time (if you've watched Madagascar...)
[06:39] <evian> slibs: yes that is possible
[06:40] <evian> slibs: probably best to check out a networking book
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  could try some live cd's that use the framebuffer device.. perhaps using it would fix your problem. :(
[06:40] <puff> Afternoon.
[06:40] <esters> hmm
[06:41] <esters> how can i access partitons with filesystem NTFS?
[06:41] <evian> slibs: but you might just plug in the cards and see if it works
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:41] <esters> ?
[06:41] <ompaul> FaeWolfe, at the end of it all how did you install java? by downloading sun stuff by using a .deb or something else?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> esters,  type '!ntfs' here
[06:41] <esters> !ntfs
[06:41] <esters> :D
[06:41] <fdr> Dr_Willis: that wouldn't be a solution... I want to run ubuntu, not some livecd. :-)   And it worked fine till yesterday...
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  thats whats odd.. that it used to work...
[06:42] <anybody> esters, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:42] <mushtaq> yes but still many things on the internet like going on in bittorent ;)
[06:42] <Gundjah> !ntfs
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  its a test.. but your 'used to work' statement - imples that somthign has changed recently
[06:42] <slibs> evian: i tried that, but it works "randomly" so, it connects right, but if i try to get files, it tryes to get them trough wrong way, so i won't get them
[06:42] <mushtaq> Dr_Willis, yes but still many things on the internet like going on in bittorent ;)
[06:42] <fdr> Dr_Willis: yep, untill this morning's security updates...
[06:43] <esters> anybody, thnx
[06:43] <slibs> i was just thinking that is there some program to tell my machine that i wan't to do so
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> fdr,  time to check the wiki's and message boards - :()
[06:44] <fdr> Dr_Willis: brb -- phone
[06:44] <evian> slibs: ok I'm not sure if there is a graphical program for that
[06:44] <slibs> evian: how bout non-graphical one?, do you know any of them?
[06:45] <evian> slibs: try: man route
[06:45] <slibs> thanks
[06:45] <puff> So, I'm having some odd messages on startup, and my wireless firmware fails to load.  Here's my dmesg:
[06:45] <puff> http://pastebin.com/362649
[06:45] <evian> and ifconfig
[06:46] <evian> netstat too
[06:46] <Gundjah> Dearest gurus... repeating the question...
[06:46] <Gundjah> Is there a way to get WINE runnign on Ubuntu?
[06:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[06:46] <Gundjah> Doesn't seem to work with apt-get installation
[06:46] <cyclone> I updated from Ubuntu-Hoary to Ubuntu-Breezy with the new Gnome WM. Now I have a Red Back with X. So now I have a dark RED that is bleeding through everything. Can someone guide me to some sort of doc that describes how to fix this?
[06:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am having problems with crontab...anyone could help?
[06:47] <cyclone> I've tried many different xorg.confs
[06:47] <cyclone> all with the same resulrt
[06:47] <cyclone> -r
[06:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> it simply dont works for a user
[06:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> that has bash...
[06:54] <ThreeDayMonk> Aragorn_Guardian: "dont works" (aside from the atrocious grammar :-) isn't awfully descriptive.  In what way doesn't it work?  My first guess would be a path problem.
[06:55] <kranebitt2> Hello, I was trying to get a DVD to work under Totem but it told me that I needed the library libdvdcss or so. Where can I get it and how do I install it?
[06:55] <infinito> has anybody done the transition hoary->breezy with dist-upgrade?
[06:55] <setite> how do i check my java version
[06:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> ThreeDayMonk, thanks...but all paths are ok...gonna test again....
[06:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> ThreeDayMonk, what defines that a user must have crontab? cron.allow?
[06:57] <Aragorn_Guardian> my distro is fedora, sorry question this, that, cause ubuntu works perfectly
[06:57] <erUSUL> setite java -showversion?
[06:57] <G|Patrick> re
[06:57] <G|Patrick> one question:
[06:57] <G|Patrick> can i delete gcc3.4
[06:57] <G|Patrick> breezy has gcc4.0
[06:57] <enyc> G!P err.. in breezy, you dont need gcc-3.4 package, usually
[06:58] <enyc> G!P except for compiling some stuff that needs gcc-3.4, if you compile stuff yourself etc.
[06:58] <G|Patrick> i am not a developer
[06:59] <G|Patrick> best thing i can do is writing a website
[06:59] <nfinitep1astik> hello everyone
[06:59] <ThreeDayMonk> Aragorn_Guardian: no idea about that - I've never heard of any such restriction.
[06:59] <G|Patrick> i guess gcc 3.3 is obsolit as well
[07:00] <cyclone> infinito: I have.
[07:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> ThreeDayMonk: gonna try again....thanks...
[07:00] <cyclone> on 2 computers.. My laptop is being a punk though.
[07:01] <infinito> cyclone: and how it was? clean enough?
[07:01] <abarbaccia> whats the package name for the java runtime environment in breezy?
[07:01] <stianh> Hey guys, I am trying to install VMware in breezy preview, I've installed kernel headers and so on, but when I try running the vmware-config.pl and it looks for C headers, I get this -> http://pastebin.com/362659
[07:01] <enyc> abar: which one <G> ;-)
[07:01] <stianh> any suggestions?
[07:01] <stianh> Dr_Willis, that ok? :P
[07:02] <G|Patrick> java: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:02] <Volen_ATAKAA> how to convert .rmp to .deb
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> 'alien' can convert rpm to .deb
[07:02] <Volen_ATAKAA> # alien
[07:02] <Volen_ATAKAA> bash: alien: command not found
[07:03] <deluja> question: after installing ubuntu, it cannot start. monitor does klick and screen is black. it seems that it doesnt recognize my graphic card geforce440 mx, or my display
[07:03] <Volen_ATAKAA> Ubuntu 5.10
[07:03] <enyc> vile: then you need to install 'alien'
[07:03] <abarbaccia> whats the difference between se and re?
[07:03] <abarbaccia> with the java?
[07:03] <enyc> vole: but, generlal,y , you shoudl avoid foreign packages unless you need them
[07:03] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: can you get into your terminal?
[07:04] <Volen_ATAKAA> 10x
[07:04] <deluja> no i cant... it seems everything ok, but when it has to start xserver, screen gets black and i hear click
[07:05] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: so you cant get to your other consoles at all?
[07:05] <GhostFreeman> Anyone here know of a video player with subtitle support
[07:06] <nfinitep1astik> GhostFreeman: vlc
[07:06] <deluja> no nothing, i even cant do ctrl alt del to restart comp...
[07:06] <deluja> but instalation went fine, it didnt show any error or smth
[07:07] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: have you had this problem before?
[07:07] <GhostFreeman> is it on repo?
[07:07] <nfinitep1astik> GhostFreeman: yes
[07:07] <GhostFreeman> ok thanks
[07:07] <deluja> no i have fedora core 2 and it s working fine
[07:07] <thrush_2> Delgul, can you boot to recovery mode at startup?
[07:07] <nfinitep1astik> GhostFreeman: make sure you have your repositories updated
[07:07] <Gundjah> abarbaccia: JavaSE => Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition (J2SE) provides a complete environment for applications development on desktops and servers and for deployment in embedded environments.
[07:07] <thrush_2> deluja,
[07:08] <GhostFreeman> ok
[07:08] <deluja> thrush_2 : no, i didnt
[07:08] <kranebitt2> How do I install packages from other sites than the ones ubuntu has chosen?
[07:08] <Gundjah> RE stands fr Runtime Environment. See http://java.sun.com
[07:08] <deluja> but how to boot in recovery mode?
[07:08] <Lethal-Rocks> !tell kranebitt2 about repos
[07:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can someone point me to a repository that has the latest version of Mplayer for AMD64?
[07:08] <deluja> grub doesnt offer any choice
[07:09] <deluja> and i havent seen any option on install cd
[07:09] <Lethal-Rocks> deluja, Press esc on boot
[07:10] <deluja> ...ok so in recovery mode i can change screen resolution or smth? because i presume it s problem with unsuported resolution or smth
[07:10] <Lethal-Rocks> recovery mode is a root terminal
[07:10] <Volen_ATAKAA> How to get @100Hz instead @85Hz, I added the horizontal and the vertical values in xorg.conf
[07:11] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: have you tried a live cd?
[07:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone?
[07:11] <deluja> lethal-rock: yeah.. ok. i hope it s just resolution problem
[07:11] <Lethal-Rocks> Volen_ATAKAA, I'd like to know that too
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Volen_ATAKAA,  are you using a lcd display?
[07:11] <G|Patrick> help
[07:11] <Alakala> Hey, how do I get my usb-hd with Ubuntu to work? If I boot it (Grub) on the main hd, where my windows is, grub works, but it doesn't find /dev/console and such, but if I then again boot with the external, Grub gives the error 18. :(
[07:11] <Volen_ATAKAA> Samsung SyncMaster 957DF
[07:11] <G|Patrick> get following mesage in synaptic
[07:11] <Volen_ATAKAA> CRT
[07:11] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: i dunno one off the top of my head but you can do an apt-cache search for 64 bitmplayer
[07:11] <deluja> nfinitep1astik: yep, i did... same problem and same mistake.
[07:12] <G|Patrick> ubuntu-desktop:
[07:12] <G|Patrick>  Depends: readahead-list  but it is not installable
[07:12] <G|Patrick> what can i do now?
[07:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> what exactly do i type for that in terminal infinitep?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> i always check otu the x modeline generator site --->  http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[07:12] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: sudo apt-cache search mplayer | more
[07:12] <Volen_ATAKAA> How to get @100Hz instead @85Hz, I added the horizontal and the vertical values in xorg.conf PLS HELP my eyes suffer ( :))) )
[07:12] <deluja> could it be to mistake on cd or smth... i ve ordered it at ubuntu site
[07:12] <kranebitt2> Could somebody please tell me how to use those repos and if I could use the entire sourceforge site to look for packages
[07:13] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: not necessarily, ubuntu might have just configured it incorrectly due to an inconsistant variable
[07:13] <enyc> Vole: I wonder this too
[07:13] <nfinitep1astik> deluja: you are using hoary right?
[07:13] <Lethal-Rocks> enyc, Volen_ATAKAA So do I :P
[07:13] <deluja> yes hoary 5.04
[07:13] <enyc> Vole: I have a gateway XV900  that can do 160hz (!!!), and this Sony GDM-4011P (100hz) !!
[07:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> dang i got nothin
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Volen_ATAKAA,  if you can tell the diff from 85 to 100.. you got much younger eyes then  i do. -->    may want to check    http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[07:14] <Volen_ATAKAA> :)
[07:14] <just_in> what package do I need to view TIFF's in mozilla
[07:14] <enyc> Leth, Vole, :  I find that the modelines from  xtiming.sf.net  dont work for me, they cause it all to not-work
[07:14] <Volen_ATAKAA> yes there is a difference i use CRT
[07:14] <reiki_work> Volen_ATAKAA: what country?
[07:15] <Volen_ATAKAA> Bulgaria
[07:15] <reiki_work> I suppose I could look...
[07:15] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: have you tried googling it?
[07:15] <reiki_work> Volen_ATAKAA: your electrical system is 220V and 85Hz?
[07:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i found it but i dont want to compile it
[07:15] <erUSUL> just_in, almost all image viewers suport tiff (eog, gthumb)
[07:15] <Volen_ATAKAA> reiki_work, what ???
[07:15] <enyc> Dr_W: have you actually had a  xtiming.sf.net  modeline working in  hoary X.org server ??
[07:15] <ReleaseX> hello all
[07:15] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> enyc,  i just normally use that site for my widescreen laptops. works good for them in a dozen disrtos.
[07:16] <reiki_work> Volen_ATAKAA: you electrical power... what you have your monitor plugged into and what poweers your lights in your building
[07:16] <just_in> erUSUL: but I need a plugin for mozilla what would that be?
[07:16] <Volen_ATAKAA> i understand
[07:16] <enyc> DR_W: hrrm... I had some perfectly sensible modelines from there that just mucked everything up in  hoary 's x server ;-(
[07:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> last time i compiled it my xdesktop crashed
[07:16] <Trilobite> AC cycles surely have no bearing on problems of screen flicker?
[07:16] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: www.mplayerhq.hu
[07:16] <enyc> Dr_W : tried allsorts... I just couldnt get it to behave
[07:16] <Volen_ATAKAA> what is the relation between my problem reiki_work
[07:16] <Volen_ATAKAA> :)))))))
[07:16] <Trilobite> it's a monitor issue
[07:16] <enyc> tril: indeed...
[07:17] <erUSUL> just_in, why do you need that?
[07:17] <reiki_work> Trilobite: they sure do
[07:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> thx
[07:17] <Volen_ATAKAA> Under Windows i use @100Hz, but I want linux
[07:17] <enyc> Well.. if you have mains-driven TRANSFORMERS nearby.... can be a problem
[07:17] <reiki_work> Trilobite: if he's matching the frequency of his electrical system or a harmonic thereof... he can very well see strobing
[07:17] <Trilobite> hmm
[07:17] <Trilobite> i'll defer to your expertise
[07:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh...thats where i got the first one that crashed my desktop
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> oh wait i am all LCD now a days.. so it dosent matter.
[07:18] <Lethal-Rocks> That might explain why 60Hz looks more funky than 50 :P
[07:18] <enyc> some TVs had/have transformers running from mains (not swithced), hence 50/60hz , hence the  TV signal refresh needed to be the same as the mains frequency to avoid picture-wobble
[07:18] <reiki_work> Trilobite: I wouldn't know this except I ran into it many years ago... my older brother is an electrical engineer and explained to me how and why it's like that
[07:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> thing is i dont think it was for amd64
[07:18] <just_in> I'm trying to view a TIFF in mozilla and it tells me I need a plugin
[07:18] <fredforfaen> Yo folks
[07:18] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: then there might not be one available
[07:18] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: do you have to use mplayer?
[07:18] <Trilobite> reiki_work: my mistake then, i'll have to look into this some time, you've got me interested now
[07:19] <reiki_work> Trilobite in the US we are normally at 60Hz... so people using monitors with 60Hz refresh get headaches.. this is ESPECIALLY pronounced i office areas with flourescent lights
[07:19] <Siemen> hi all
[07:19] <enyc> But any sensible monitor etc.  has switchmode PSU, hence any 'wobble' would be 10..100 kHz somewhere and  cause LINE-rate wobble, not FRAME-rate wobble
[07:19] <Siemen> anyone who knows how to install the X sources?
[07:19] <enyc> reik: be careful what you mean 'flourescent lights'.. only if they are driven off the mains with a magnetic ballast...
[07:20] <enyc> reik:  if you have a HF (electronic, High Frequency) ballast, they just dont flicker really...  in short
[07:20] <reiki_work> encyc: ok... valid qualifier there. :)
[07:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> it would be the all in one solution...i found and older version  but i have no idea how to get it into synaptic
[07:20] <CookedGryphon> hey, in a shell script, how do i ask a yes no question and get an answer, doing one routine if yes, another if no?
[07:20] <enyc> Anwyay, a GOOD CRT monitor with high requesh capability and good focus  is still very usable ;-)
[07:20] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: is it a *.deb file?
[07:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya
[07:21] <enyc> Some poeple seem to go out of their way to promote/want/demand LCD screens...
[07:21] <nfinitep1astik> sudo dpkg -i *file name*
[07:21] <reiki_work> enyc: it's not REALLY affecting teh frame rate. It's a relationship between teh room lighting and refresh rate. The eyes (or brain) perceive it as strobing
[07:21] <neighborlee> is anyone else seeing archive manager ( file roller) take forever on unpacking some files ( this one is only 13 MB and its taking so far half a minute and it like 'stops' in certain places as if having a hard time reading package dunno...) ??
[07:21] <enyc> reik: interesting...
[07:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> thank u
[07:22] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: did it work?
[07:22] <enyc> reik: I use a HF  flourescent light  and a  85hz flourescing (crt) monitor display...
[07:22] <enyc> reik: and dont get headaches
[07:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> checkin now
[07:22] <enyc> reik: though, if i could sort out the darned Vrefresh in  hoary  box,  I could do at least 100hz on that monitor/card
[07:23] <nfinitep1astik> enyc: just to do it?
[07:23] <reiki_work> enyc: you may not be sensitive to it. I know some people never notice and some people it really bothers
[07:23] <nfinitep1astik> =D
[07:23] <enyc> reik: sure
[07:23] <enyc> nfin: erm.. but I cant get it to work!
[07:23] <enyc> nfin: the weird ubuntu mode switcher thingie never presents > 85hz as an option
[07:23] <enyc> nfin: this would appear to be a limitation  of the ubuntu hoary  provided 'mode switcher thingie'
[07:23] <Lethal-Rocks> Same here enyc
[07:23] <nfinitep1astik> enyc: have you tried adding it to your xorg.conf?
[07:24] <enyc> nfin: I have tried and tried  with modelines  for what I want,  and it all doesn't work
[07:24] <Lethal-Rocks> Actually, I think I can get 87 out of one of them
[07:24] <evian> I solved my resolution problem with the help of the wiki
[07:24] <enyc> nfin: I've been quite successful with modelines on other installs/distros/systems (e.g. with xfree86)
[07:24] <nfinitep1astik> enyc: well, i dont suppose forcing x into 100 refresh isn't working either?
[07:24] <enyc> nfin: hrrrm.. how exactly ?
[07:24] <enyc> nfin: btw, I am not at that machine now, and wont be until tomorrow
[07:25] <nfinitep1astik> enyc: perhaps we can elaborate more tomorrow then?
[07:25] <egglet> please can someone help me with a dhcpd problem?
[07:25] <Siemen> @gookedGryphon: hava you thought about using python? it's pretty easy in python
[07:25] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: what's the problem?
[07:25] <enyc> eggl: whats going on ?
[07:26] <Siemen> Can anyone help me installing th e X sources?
[07:26] <CookedGryphon> Siemen, i like my shell scripts tho
[07:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> nfinitep1astik,  it worked but the packege is broken
[07:27] <CookedGryphon> cos it doesn't require anything else to run, keeps it simple and transferrable
[07:27] <Siemen> of course
[07:27] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! small server split for maintenence. something like 40 users effected. I forgot himem support when i origionally buit it's kernel earlier:)
[07:27] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: then you'll have to find all of it's dependancies
[07:27] <ulisse> I've noticed a strange behaviour with nautilus: before midnight it uses my locale (IT), after midnight it become english... is it a cinderella bug?
[07:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> nfinitep1astik, yes thanks a ton i appreciate your help
[07:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> :-)
[07:28] <nfinitep1astik> Sonny_Wertzik: np
[07:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> at least ive got something to go on now
[07:29] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: i've set up a dhcp server for my wireless device but when i try to connect i get a "no free leases" message in the log
[07:29] <yancheng> hi, anyone noe wat is some powerful feature which can be provided by emacs compared with gedit
[07:29] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: did you make sure your dhcp server can give out enough leases?
[07:30] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: i gave it a range of 192.168.1.100-200 and this is the only client so far
[07:30] <eruin> anyone using clearlooks-cairo on breezy?
[07:31] <nfinitep1astik> what are you using as your dhcp server?
[07:31] <egglet> nfiniteplastic - apt-got the dhcp3-server and am using htat
[07:32] <nfinitep1astik> what are you using as an access point for your wireless device?
[07:32] <egglet> nfiniteplastic: am trying to set up my ubuntu box as either the access point (in master mode) or to set up an adhoc network
[07:33] <egglet> so it's set as the authorative dhcp server
[07:33] <Lethal-Rocks> Could someone please explain what I need to do for my wireless network? I installed the module, kwifi says it's connected to the network and access point, but I can't use sites or ping even the router
[07:33] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: so you physically have a wireless pci device? and do you have it setup as a domain?
[07:34] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: yes, i have a pci device sitting happily on ath0. it's working properly 'cause i've used it to connect to an access point before and is registering the incoming dhcp requests but claims to be unable to provide a lease (no free leases)
[07:35] <egglet> nfiniteplastick: my server log says things like: "Sep 13 18:20:34 localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:11:24:22:d9:82 via ath0: network 192.168.1.0/24: no free leases"
[07:36] <nfinitep1astik> then technically you're not going to be giving out ip leases....in my opinion, i think you're better off in workgroup configuration
[07:36] <egglet> how do i go about doing that?
[07:36] <Lethal-Rocks> What's the command too see what's running (not jobs, the toher one)
[07:37] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: just statically assign a class d address (192.168.1.1 and up) to your two computers
[07:37] <thenuke> Lethal-Rocks: ps aux
[07:37] <Lethal-Rocks> ty :D
[07:37] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: thanks. will try that.
[07:38] <G|Patrick> hmmm...
[07:38] <G|Patrick> need a "how to" about "adding applications to breezy that are not be found by the menu tool
[07:38] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: how do i stop dhcpd from loading on startup?
[07:39] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: you can uninstall it or kill the process out
[07:39] <G|Patrick> how can i add opera to the gnome menu?
[07:40] <egglet> just out of interest. what is the command to add and remove things to the startup chain?
[07:40] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: good question
[07:40] <Lethal-Rocks> egglet, I think the scripts are in /etc/init.d/
[07:40] <Lethal-Rocks> Not too sure on that
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you are wanting to add also.
[07:41] <bipolar> is there a way to get accelerated 3d on my radion 9000 laptop that doesn't start with "open a terminal"? I'm more then competent to do it that way but I'm wondering why ubuntu doesn't automaticly enable it. It's using the 'ati' driver instead of the 'radion' one.
[07:41] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> bipolar,  - Legal issues  is the reason why.
[07:41] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: ...open a terminal.......
[07:41] <bipolar> Dr_Willis, I'm talking about the open source driver.
[07:41] <egglet> nfiniteplastik: cheers. workgroup seems to be the solution. is all happy now.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> bipolar,  took me about 3 min and 3 lines of cut/pasting. :P  to get the official ones going.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> oh the OS ones.. well it could be they defaulted to the 'safer' drivers
[07:42] <bipolar> Dr_Willis, I dont need the ati (flgrx) drivers. The open source ones do just as good on this 9000. :)
[07:42] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: well, if you're on ppc,i could point you the right direction
[07:43] <bipolar> nfinitep1astik, I can do it the hard way. I'm just wondering if there is a more user friendly way.
[07:43] <bipolar> nfinitep1astik, this is the 'debian' way not the 'ubuntu' way. :)
[07:44] <G|Patrick> huhu
[07:44] <G|Patrick> no idea?
[07:44] <G|Patrick> :(
[07:44] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: lol, no worries,i had to do it the hard way on my ibook also, but it doesn't get much easier than taking the long route
[07:44] <bipolar> nfinitep1astik, ok. Maybe I should make a bug report.
[07:44] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: nothing wrong with that
[07:45] <erUSUL> egglet,  update-rc.d
[07:45] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: and while you're there...ask them to make a ppc  version while they're at it =D
[07:45] <bipolar> G|Patrick, brezzy has a sweet app to do that.
[07:45] <nfinitep1astik> egglet: np d00d
[07:46] <bipolar> nfinitep1astik, heh... theres no ppc radion xorg driver? thats strange.
[07:46] <Kuolio> \o/ breezy installed and working like a charm \o/
[07:46] <G|Patrick> bipolar: i asked in  the beginning
[07:46] <G|Patrick> how its possible to add tools that cant be found by that tool
[07:46] <G|Patrick> first tool should have been aplication...
[07:46] <nfinitep1astik> bipolar: beggars cant be choosers so i had to reinstall tiger =/
[07:47] <Frafra> hi all
[07:47] <Frafra> i've a big problem
[07:47] <nirtal> any one here that are running ubuntu 5.10 and got ati drivers working fine?
[07:47] <Frafra> in breezy for amd64, i can't install vlc
[07:47] <Frafra> http://rafb.net/paste/results/alYE0821.html
[07:47] <bipolar> G|Patrick, open a terminal and.... :P
[07:47] <samu2> can you pipe output from programs to the clipboard?
[07:48] <G|Patrick> it doesnt find opera
[07:48] <G|Patrick> i dont know why
[07:48] <G|Patrick> but thats a fact
[07:48] <bipolar> a graphical X configurator would be really nice.
[07:48] <nfinitep1astik> Frafra: can you paste it in english?
[07:48] <G|Patrick> so any alternative solutions referring not to that new tool :D
[07:48] <Frafra> nfinitep1astik: how can i set it to english?
[07:48] <KrispyKringle> So postfix-tls should be all I need to do SSL-ed SASL authenticatioin against a relay host, right?
[07:48] <G|Patrick> *questionmark*
[07:48] <bipolar> G|Patrick, there must be a problem with the opera package. It doesn't create menu entries.
[07:48] <KrispyKringle> I'm getting an error that seems to indicate no SSL support.
[07:48] <thrush_2> Frafra, breezy issues still pretty common you could always compile vlc..
[07:49] <G|Patrick> bipolar: in kde it does... weired, isnt it?
[07:49] <nirtal> isn't it just that it need to install dbus-1 and libhal0 to install vlc but it can't download them?
[07:49] <nfinitep1astik> Frafra: did you update your list of repositories?
[07:49] <bipolar> G|Patrick, yes. it must only create kde menu items instead of the standard that kde and gnome both follow now.
[07:49] <Frafra> nfinitep1astik: yes, i've do dist-upgrade 2 min. ago
[07:49] <G|Patrick> any clue, how to teach breezy's tool how to find opera?
[07:49] <erUSUL> samu2, i do not think so
[07:49] <erUSUL> samu2, use a tmp file
[07:50] <nfinitep1astik> did you apt-get update also?
[07:50] <G|Patrick> bipolor: would u try it by urself?
[07:50] <Frafra> nfinitep1astik: yes, of course
[07:50] <nfinitep1astik> Frafra: making sure ^.^
[07:50] <nirtal> try to add someother sources to your source.list
[07:50] <samu2> erUSUL, omfg! so i thought of something really useful that you cant do in linux then?
[07:50] <G|Patrick> hmm?
[07:51] <Frafra> thrush_2: can i comile it simply?
[07:51] <bipolar> G|Patrick, you could install smeg. That lets you add entries that don't have menu items.
[07:51] <G|Patrick> "smeg" ?
[07:51] <G|Patrick> ok
[07:52] <cevizoglu> I'm trying to install a netgear wg511v2 card.  The lspci is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2142.  It doesn't show up in the network and the lights don't come on, modprobe prism54 doesn't work
[07:52] <G|Patrick> btw... i just noticed that i was into a simple interface of synaptic and not in the one u were referring to
[07:52] <G|Patrick> how is the new tool called?
[07:52] <Madpilot> erUSUL & samu2: you can pipe command line output to txt files - check linuxcommand.org, I can't remember the gory details
[07:52] <Lethal-Rocks> How do I upgrade to breezy from the command line?
[07:52] <nirtal> can any one help me, want my ati drivers to work.... glxgears stops when i try to run it, no fps prompted?
[07:52] <cevizoglu> !upgrade2breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:52] <thrush_2> Frafra, havent compiled vlc myself but it should be pretty simple.  Just download the source code file, extract it.  It should come with a README or just as here if you have a problem
[07:53] <andril> hello all
[07:53] <Siemen> hello
[07:53] <samu2> Madpilot, i know you can pipe to files. But it would be nice when you're pasting stuff for bug reports if you could pipe output right into the copy and paste buffer.
[07:53] <Frafra> thrush_2: thanks
[07:53] <erUSUL> Madpilot, that's what i said pipe to a tmp file paste from it or from the console
[07:54] <andril> does anyone know when Breezy is going to be final (ready & stable)?
[07:54] <cevizoglu> andril: about a month
[07:55] <andril> cevizglu: cool - I didn't want to damage my install - since I got it singing
[07:55] <G|Patrick> bipolor?
[07:55] <G|Patrick> bipolar?
[07:55] <bipolar> G|Patrick, yeah
[07:55] <Siemen> can someone tell me how to install the x sources??
[07:56] <G|Patrick> i was wrong... watched the wrong tool
[07:56] <G|Patrick> how is the thing called, tahts new in breeyz
[07:56] <bipolar> G|Patrick, under 'System Tools' > 'Applications Menu Editor'
[07:57] <Gundjah> Could someone help me set up my monitor?
[07:57] <nfinitep1astik> Siemen: dunno, let me google it for you
[07:57] <Gundjah> i.e. with xorg.conf
[07:57] <G|Patrick> dont have that
[07:58] <Siemen> ok, tx
[07:58] <bipolar> G|Patrick, hmmm... I wonder if your menu is not refreshing.
[07:58] <G|Patrick> may it because of a simple upgrade instead of a clean install?
[07:58] <bipolar> G|Patrick, just on a hunch... try logging out/in and see if the menu items show up.
[07:58] <bipolar> G|Patrick, maybe Opera will be there too
[07:58] <G|Patrick> i logged in 3 times until i reinstalled opera
[07:59] <G|Patrick> and 5 times since the upgrade
[07:59] <kafeine> khm
[07:59] <kafeine> anyone had any success
[07:59] <VoX> how do i set different background pictures on seperate monitors, using twinview?
[07:59] <kafeine> with ati under breezy?
[07:59] <G|Patrick> first until = since
[07:59] <arachnion> I am trying to get mysql to run (XAMPP)
[07:59] <arachnion> but it won't run
[07:59] <G|Patrick> kafeine: my x server always crashes when i try to install the propritary driver
[07:59] <nirtal> i'm trying on ati under breezy
[08:00] <G|Patrick> with the defaults its working
[08:00] <arachnion> error #2002 The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[08:00] <erUSUL> samu2, there is no unified cut&paste buffer in X hence there is no such facility.
[08:00] <bipolar> G|Patrick, what ATI card do you have?
[08:00] <arachnion> is it posible that is is related to ubuntu? it used to work fine
[08:00] <G|Patrick> 9800
[08:00] <bipolar> kafeine, what ATI card do you have?
[08:00] <kafeine> 9600 pro
[08:00] <kafeine> i managed to start dri
[08:00] <bipolar> I've got a 9000 in my laptop that works with the xorg 'radion' driver.
[08:01] <nfinitep1astik> Siemen: almost have it
[08:01] <kafeine> but no opengl..
[08:01] <nirtal> where in xorg.conf should i put the sring "Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no""?
[08:01] <bipolar> I need to restart X. I just edited my xorg.conf.
[08:01] <samu2> erUSUL, oh? Is that why I never get the right text pasted on the first try? :)
[08:01] <erUSUL> bipolar, you mean radeon
[08:01] <samu2> That's one place where windows owns linux.
[08:02] <samu2> And also the sound mixing stuff, where apps steal the soundcard so the other ones can't run.
[08:02] <nirtal> it's wierd, when I'm trying to run glxgears the gears stops and no fps i prompted....
[08:02] <samu2> Somebody really should fix that.
[08:02] <cevizoglu> samu2: file a bug
[08:02] <Gundjah> xorg.conf gave my monitor resolutions 28-72 and 43-60. I changed these to correct (36-64 and 50-100), then noticed a line below: Modeline	"1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624
[08:03] <nfinitep1astik> Siemen: you there?
[08:03] <G|Patrick> bipolar: i think we are talking about the ati thing that worked fine in hoary ;)
[08:03] <nfinitep1astik> Siemen: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8/doc/
[08:03] <Gundjah> What does this imply? up to now I've only managed a refresh rate max 60Hz, and I know that this thing can go over. So do I need to care about that line after correcting the refresh rates?
[08:03] <Siemen> i'm right here:)
[08:03] <samu2> cevizoglu, Hmm... I should do that. I just thought somebody else would have been annoyed by this before me.
[08:03] <nfinitep1astik> Siemen: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8/doc/
[08:04] <esters> hi again
[08:04] <Gundjah> est - got it working?
[08:04] <esters> noup
[08:04] <esters> i need to conver NTFS to ext3
[08:04] <esters> but how
[08:04] <cevizoglu> samu2: you could think that about any bug though
[08:04] <yancheng> hi, in crreating static library (*.a) with two object file with same exported function name, how can i prevent this?
[08:04] <esters> without loosing data
[08:05] <Gundjah> Over my head...
[08:05] <larsrohdin> hi, I have a question concering emacs mostly... can I post here or is there a #emacs?
[08:05] <cevizoglu> larsrohdin, there is an #emacs
[08:05] <samu2> cevizoglu, Well in my humble opinion it would seem that some bugs affect more people than others do.
[08:05] <cevizoglu> samu2, that's true but you don't know if anyone bothered to file a bug for it
[08:05] <esters> hmm
[08:05] <esters> any solutions?
[08:06] <larsrohdin> cevizoglu, fiund it thanks
[08:06] <larsrohdin> found
[08:06] <Gundjah> est - I don't think you have other options but to backup and re-format...
[08:06] <esters> aga
[08:06] <Gundjah> you want to kick XP?
[08:06] <Lethal-Rocks> Anyone know why I can't connect to the internet on my chroot'ed fs?
[08:06] <cevizoglu> samu2, I filed a bug for lack of second mouse button emulation on powerbooks, and they were going to skip that problem on hoary, and did because no one really complained about it
[08:07] <paxmaster> hello How could I burn an .iso with cdrecord
[08:07] <thrush_2> esters, I normally get another harddrive backup the data format the old drive and then copy the data back not the best solution I know :p
[08:07] <kafeine> gah
[08:07] <esters> Gundjah, the problem is that my mother uses XP
[08:07] <occy> bob2, got it all back and restored.
[08:07] <cevizoglu> samu2, that is something which affects every single powerbook user using ubuntu
[08:07] <kafeine> some support of ati should be required for the breezy release..
[08:07] <Gundjah> est - you cannot do it then. XP cannot read ext3
[08:07] <occy> bob2, it was the bad drivers.
[08:07] <LokeDK> Err I tried enlightenment (don't think it has anything to do with that) .. but I logged out and gdm tried to start... but after the nvidia splash .. it crashed.. and it stopped after like 3 or 4 times and it said that it couldn't start and it would disable gdm until I got the problem fixed.. but I reinstalled the nvidia driver and it worked now.. I've looked at the /var/www/Xorg.0.log.old and it says this http://pastebin.com/362724 .. I ha
[08:07] <LokeDK> ve updated my xorg recently today..
[08:07] <thrush_2> esters, if you just need write access you can reinstall xp as fat32 instead of ntfs
[08:07] <esters> no thanks
[08:08] <esters> i vill get my friends HDD
[08:08] <esters> put my DC share and Format
[08:08] <esters> but
[08:08] <HappyFool> paxmaster: it should be fairly easy, if you're used to command-line programs
[08:08] <samu2> cevizoglu, yeah, that would affect quite a few people. But the problems I mentioned affects everyone who cuts and pastes and uses multimedia apps.
[08:08] <esters> then
[08:08] <J1m> newbie question: is there some way to cause ~/.bash_profile to be read?
[08:08] <esters> how will i get it to ext3?
[08:08] <Gundjah> est - your mom will lose the xp
[08:08] <esters> no
[08:08] <esters> i hawe 3 partitions
[08:08] <Gundjah> Ah.
[08:08] <dandavat> est, you can read ext3 from XP
[08:08] <esters> 1 is 4 Windows XP
[08:08] <esters> 2 ir for Linux
[08:08] <J1m> I just installed ubuntu and the .bash_profile that unbuntu created for me isn't being read.
[08:09] <esters> 3 is for games,files,music
[08:09] <cevizoglu> samu2: actually, I read what you're talking about.  sounds more like a tool, which is a feature request, than a bug
[08:09] <arachnion> bbl
[08:09] <esters> i will not loose xp because the 1 partition i'm not going to format
[08:09] <paxmaster> like this cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 file.iso
[08:09] <cevizoglu> samu2: I venture to think there might already be such a tool
[08:09] <HappyFool> paxmaster: i think something as simple as cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw filename.iso will work, but you can specify extra options
[08:09] <esters> i want only the 3 partiton about 140gb :)
[08:09] <HappyFool> paxmaster: yeah, that might work. i'm not familiar with that scsi numbering scheme though
[08:10] <HappyFool> paxmaster: also, you can specify -dummy to do a 'dummy' burn; might be handy
[08:10] <esters> but used is only about 35gb
[08:10] <paxmaster> thanks
[08:10] <prolsd> hmm, is there a partition magic like tool to resize partitions with?
[08:10] <Gundjah> est - check man mkfs
[08:10] <dandavat> esters, use explore2fs to read ext partitions from Windows XP
[08:10] <Gundjah> Could someone help me set up my monitor?
[08:10] <esters> oh
[08:10] <Gundjah> i.e. with xorg.conf
[08:10] <esters> but
[08:10] <Gundjah> xorg.conf gave my monitor resolutions 28-72 and 43-60. I changed these to correct (36-64 and 50-100), then noticed a line below: Modeline	"1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624
[08:10] <esters> when i will format the partition
[08:10] <Gundjah> What does this imply? up to now I've only managed a refresh rate max 60Hz, and I know that this thing can go over. So do I need to care about that line after correcting the refresh rates?
[08:10] <esters> how will i convert it to EXT3?
[08:10] <esters> with what tool?
[08:11] <Gundjah> est - the tool is mkfs.
[08:11] <esters> this is the first day i'm using linux
[08:11] <dandavat> Gundjah, What kind of monitor you have?
[08:11] <esters> 4 years = windoes
[08:11] <esters> windows*
[08:11] <Gundjah> Dandavat - ATI ProVista
[08:11] <HappyFool> esters: if the live CD has gparted, or qparted, you can use one of those (they are graphical tools)
[08:11] <dandavat> Gundjah, Is it CRT or TFT?
[08:12] <Gundjah> CRT 17", and the refresh rates I put are correct AFAIK
[08:12] <esters> HappyFool, WHY SHOULD I USE LIVE CD?
[08:12] <Gundjah> I mean the ones I put to xorg.conf. I just don't understand that one line
[08:12] <HappyFool> esters: please don't shout. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve
[08:12] <MacaveliMC> Anyone know how I can view wmv files in the browser on linux?
[08:12] <esters> ok ok
[08:12] <HappyFool> esters: the install CD also has a partitioning tool which is fairly straightforward to use.
[08:12] <esters> sorry
[08:13] <Lethal-Rocks> Gundjah, I think it's because it's a wierd resolution
[08:13] <esters> ok
[08:13] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me how to add the local folder to my PATH?
[08:13] <J1m> does anybody here use .bash_profile?
[08:13] <HappyFool> Bad_Magic: what do you mean by the 'local folder' ?
[08:13] <cevizoglu> hmmm... looks like my netgear wg511 card isn't supported in linux.  thx netgear  :P
[08:13] <Bad_Magic> ./
[08:13] <lsuactiafner> export PATH=$PATH:new_line
[08:13] <dandavat> JIm, no
[08:13] <Gundjah> Yap. But my problem now is that I cannot get this thingy to do over 60Hz even on 1024*768 - and I know for fact that this can go to 85Hz on that. So how should I edit the file?
[08:13] <lsuactiafner> J1m : i do
[08:14] <J1m> lsuactiafner, great.  How do you get your's read?
[08:14] <HappyFool> Bad_Magic: you can use 'export PATH=.:$PATH', similar to lsuactiafner's suggestion
[08:14] <occy> is there a reason I have to do fuser -k /dev/dsp each time I boot?
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for lines that say sync
[08:14] <occy> in order to have my sound work?
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> J1m : what?
[08:15] <HappyFool> Bad_Magic: that is usually considered a bad idea, for what it's worth
[08:15] <esters> gonna go play counter-strike
[08:15] <esters> :)
[08:15] <VoX> i'd just like to say, that composite is _the sex_
[08:15] <cevizoglu> occy: not sure, but you might put it in your init script
[08:15] <lsuactiafner> MacaveliMC : mplayer
[08:15] <J1m> lsuactiafner, I just installed ubuntu.  It created a .bash_profile for me.  This .bash_profile is not being executed when I log in.  I'm wondering if I have to do something special to have it get used.
[08:15] <HappyFool> J1m: .bash_profile, if memory serves, is only read for 'login shells'; you can use .bashrc instead
[08:16] <Gundjah> lsuac - done that. HorizSync now says 36-64, and VertRefresh 50-100, which apparently are correct ones.
[08:16] <lsuactiafner> J1m : .bash_profile doesnt apply to terminals, only to consoles
[08:16] <dandavat> Jlm, I use ~/.gnomerc instead
[08:16] <Lethal-Rocks> Gundjah, logout and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:16] <J1m> hm, ok.
[08:16] <Gundjah> lsuac - xorg.conf sectoin "Monitor"
[08:16] <puff> lsuactiafner: Ya know, I always wondered what the difference between .bashrc and bash_profile was.
[08:16] <Gundjah> Lethal - what's the idea?
[08:16] <Lethal-Rocks> Restart X
[08:16] <J1m> I was using FC1 before and I always disabled graphical login. :)
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah         VertRefresh     50-150
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> hmm
[08:17] <lsuactiafner>         HorizSync       30 - 71.0
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> is mine
[08:17] <puff> Can anybody help me with this disappearing wireless card thing?
[08:17] <Talky> Hi guys :)
[08:17] <Gundjah> lsuac - this is from -99 :-)
[08:17] <BoneE> what is the different terminals and consoles
[08:17] <puff> Maybe I should just reinstall ubuntu.
[08:17] <puff> Hm, how re-install friendly is ubuntu?
[08:17] <Gundjah> Lethal - will X re-write that strange line there?
[08:17] <jobli> cevizoglu. Maybe you can use the driver from linuxant.com ?
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> puff : its not windows
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> you dont reinstall it
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> you fix it.
[08:17] <J`> I cannot `force` my ubuntu to recignize mp3; There is no gstreamer0.8.mad (or what was for mp3) in my synaptic packages. Why?
[08:18] <Lethal-Rocks> Gundjah, I don't know, I don't have one
[08:18] <radbat> hi all! how do i install wine? do i need the winetools package and win-utils or is it wnough with just the wine package?
[08:18] <J`> And XMMS acts weird - cannot load any file..
[08:18] <HappyFool> !tell J` about restricted
[08:18] <Milan-NL> Hello :) I have a problem with installing Ubuntu
[08:18] <Gundjah> radbat - apt-get install wine :-)
[08:18] <HappyFool> J`: you need to tell xmms to use the 'eSound' output plugin
[08:18] <Milan-NL> It stops at Primary Installation Respository
[08:19] <puff> lsuactiafner: Okay, then can you help me fix it?
[08:19] <foodcoman> Is there something better than VNC  for remoting a Kubuntu system (Multi Platform windows -> linux, linux -> linux)??
[08:19] <lsuactiafner> puff : i dont know anything about wireless cards
[08:19] <Belutz> HappyFool: do you happen to know if i could get an op in #ubuntu-id ?
[08:19] <Milan-NL> After an half our there is still nothing happened
[08:19] <cevizoglu> jobli: unfortunately, I have to use the prism54 drivers, as I'm on PPC arch
[08:19] <HappyFool> foodcoman: X forwarding over ssh ?
[08:19] <lsuactiafner> but reinstalling wont fix it.
[08:19] <puff> lsuactiafner: I am pretty much stuck.  http://pastebin.com/362649
[08:19] <HappyFool> Belutz: um. i don't even know what that means, sorry ;)
[08:19] <Bad_Magic> does gnome come with a rich text version of the C++ API?
[08:19] <lsuactiafner> i'm going to study now
[08:19] <cevizoglu> jobli: but I'm considering trying out breezy to see if it works there
[08:19] <jobli> ok
[08:19] <lsuactiafner> make HappyFool help you, he knows linux well
[08:19] <foodcoman> Thanks HappyFool !  I will do some reading.
[08:20] <Belutz> HappyFool: hehehe... i mean, how could i be an channel operator in #ubuntu-id ?
[08:20] <Bad_Magic> i think i read that it does
[08:20] <Bad_Magic> =x
[08:20] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, Is your network connexion working ?
[08:20] <puff> lsuactiafner: I'm not sure that's a "wireless"problem per se, but rather that ubuntu comes up (resume from disk) and can't load the firmware or something.
[08:20] <thrush_2> foodcoman, freenx is nice
[08:20] <radbat> gundjah: ant aftar that? how do i configure everything? just typing wine is not enogh i guess?
[08:20] <HappyFool> Belutz: i think you need to find out who is the 'owner' of the channel and ask them
[08:20] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: In windows it is...
[08:20] <puff> HappyFool: Any clues?
[08:21] <Gundjah> radbat - goto http://www.winehq.org, read Wine User Guide.
[08:21] <Belutz> HappyFool: how do i find the 'owner' ?
[08:21] <foodcoman> I read something about freenx.  Someone was saying is was snappy even over modem!
[08:21] <Gundjah> I just did it yesterday m'self :-)
[08:21] <HappyFool> Belutz: maybe chanserv can tell you who the owner is, but i'm not really sure
[08:21] <foodcoman> Speed is always good.
[08:21] <cevizoglu> does the breezy livecd work well on powerbooks?
[08:21] <Belutz> HappyFool: ok, thx :)
[08:21] <Gundjah> If it doesn't work, channel #winehq
[08:21] <radbat> gundjah: allright.. thanks..
[08:21] <HappyFool> puff: i'm not familiar with wireless cards or laptops, sorry; i think there occasionally issues with resuming from hibernation
[08:22] <Gundjah> rad - there's a config utility "winetools"
[08:22] <puff> HappyFool: Ah... hm.
[08:22] <jur> does anyone know how to get a driver for the sis648fx chipset (or at least the sound driver)
[08:22] <jur> ?
[08:22] <HappyFool> puff: if you know what the interface 'name' is (something like eth0, but i think wireless cards are called something else), maybe you can take it down and bring it up ?
[08:22] <cevizoglu> guess I'll find out shortly  ;)
[08:22] <puff> HappyFool: no, ifup can't find the hardware.
[08:22] <puff> eth1, typically.
[08:23] <cevizoglu> is there a way to make xchat notify you when someone says your name?
[08:23] <HappyFool> puff: ah. i'm afraid i can't help, sorry.
[08:23] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, Hmm, do you think the install CD could be faulty ?
[08:23] <puff> HappyFool: The odd thing is, if I reboot, it doesn't help.
[08:23] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, Did you burn it at maximum speed ?
[08:23] <HappyFool> puff: oh?
[08:23] <puff> But if I do an  apt-get --reinstall linux-image, then reboot, it does.
[08:23] <HappyFool> bizarre
[08:23] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: in other pc's it works perfectly...
[08:24] <Gundjah> JEZUZ I've been WAY too long in Winzozeland - I cannot read man pages anymore :P
[08:24] <puff> http://pastebin.com/362750
[08:24] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, Ah, so you've tried to perform the installation from the same CD on other PCs, right ?
[08:24] <windex> Gundjah, quickly. take the cyanide. it is the only way.
[08:24] <puff> So I think it's some sort of weird kernel/module problem, Idaknow.
[08:24] <puff> Though, of course, it's a suspend issue, and that's always thin ice.
[08:24] <puff> Maybe I'd be better off figuring out how to customize emacs and firefox and ubuntu so that I can just shut down and restart, and it'll open all the shit I had open before I shut down.
[08:24] <Gundjah> windex - I thought so as well, but now I've seen the light again :-)
[08:25] <puff> Is there any way to speed up the boot up process?  Given that this is a laptop and I'll have to shut down & restart it several times daily.
[08:25] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: well, i used the same cd before on other pcs and that works..
[08:25] <cusco> hi!
[08:25] <Gundjah> windex - refer above stupid question about strange line in xorg.conf which is clearly explained in manpage...
[08:25] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: and i tried 5.04, 5.10 in 64- and 32-bit versions
[08:25] <cevizoglu> puff: you could disable server processes you don't need
[08:26] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: but they al didn't work
[08:26] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, And you always get the same error ?
[08:26] <cusco> I installed skype trough the deb package available in skype.com but..........
[08:26] <cusco> cusco@Portatil:~$ skype
[08:26] <cusco> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:26] <cusco> so I installed libqt3-mt
[08:26] <cusco> but
[08:26] <cusco> skype won't start
[08:26] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: i dont get an error
[08:27] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: it just stay on the same place...
[08:27] <cevizoglu> how do I leave a channel in bitchX?
[08:27] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, Well I mean it always stops at the same step
[08:27] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, I see
[08:27] <J`> oh, thanks, HappyFool . I got XMMS playing, but i feel quit clumsy with it. And I found out that I havent check one of the software resources (thats why gstreamer - mad missed out). Looking for other mplayers :)
[08:27] <neighborlee> Milan-NL, glad to see you made it ;-00heh
[08:27] <HappyFool> cusco: have you tried the SkypeHowto on the wiki?
[08:27] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: yes it stops at the same place every time
[08:27] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, maybe try to drop a mail on the ubuntu users list ?
[08:27] <HappyFool> J`: some people here seem to like beep-media-player. and others recommend amarok
[08:27] <Gundjah> cya l8er
[08:27] <J1m> Thanks
[08:28] <Belutz> HappyFool: the 'owner' of the channel is last seen 39 weeks ago :(
[08:28] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: uuh, where can I do that?
[08:28] <HappyFool> Belutz: freenode policy is to drop nicks after 60 days
[08:28] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, It is a mailing list, check out http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[08:29] <Answer> Question: I have an ssh tunnel setup from <host> to <dest>, how can I test from the <dest> if it is up?  Current method is scp a file and see if it goes thru.  Can I run ssh or scp and get a return value?
[08:29] <Belutz> HappyFool: hmmm, so how could I 'take over' the channel?
[08:29] <Answer> Belutz: you cannot takeover while ChanServ is here.
[08:29] <Milan-NL> lllmanulll: thanks
[08:30] <lllmanulll> Milan-NL, No problem
[08:30] <Belutz> Answer: not this channel of course... :)
[08:30] <cevizoglu> does breezy add extra support for newer netgear wg511 cards?
[08:31] <Answer> Question: I have an ssh tunnel setup from <host> to <dest>, how can I test from the <dest> if it is up?  Current method is scp a file and see if it goes thru.  Can I run ssh or scp and get a return value?
[08:31] <HappyFool> Answer: from man scp: 'scp exits with 0 on success or >0 if an error occurred.'
[08:31] <turkey_joe> can someone help me getting beagle to work
[08:31] <Answer> HappyFool: scp prints a string, how do I check the return value?
[08:32] <HappyFool> Answer: maybe you can scp host:/dev/null to /dev/null, or something similar? i'm not all that familiar with ssh tunnels (as opposed to normal ssh)
[08:32] <HappyFool> Answer: in a bash script?
[08:32] <Answer> HappyFool:  x = scp dummyfile host:/dev/null;  if x == 0 ?
[08:32] <turkey_joe> i have it installed..
[08:32] <cevizoglu> Answer you get the return variable value, can't remember what it is at the moment
[08:32] <turkey_joe> can't get any search results??
[08:32] <HappyFool> Answer: no, you can use $?
[08:33] <reiki_work> !mplayer
[08:33] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:33] <Answer> Example of checking hte return value of scp please?
[08:33] <HappyFool> Answer: or something like 'scp dummyfile host:/dev/null || exit 1'
[08:33] <cevizoglu> Answer it's $?, HappyFool said it
[08:34] <Answer> I do not understand "$?"
[08:34] <HappyFool> Answer: if [ $? -gt 0 ] ; then .... should work, i think. i got a bit confused doing something like this a week ago
[08:34] <HappyFool> Answer: what language are you working in? a shell script?
[08:34] <cevizoglu> Answer you pipe $? to the place you need your result value saved
[08:34] <turkey_joe> Help with setting up beagle.....please!
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool : use && @ end ?
[08:35] <reiki_work> anyone have trouble getting mozilla-mplayer working properly? Mine won't open wmv files in the browser. I get sound but no picture
[08:35] <Answer> I can work in a shell script if that is appropriate... ?
[08:35] <cevizoglu> Answer or you would do echo $?
[08:35] <cevizoglu> Answer to display the result to yourself
[08:35] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: i'm not familiar with '@'; my bash knowledge is limited
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> reiki_work : since wmv files dont play on 64bit.
[08:35] <turkey_joe> don't all reply at once now!!!
[08:35] <HappyFool> Answer: what language are you familiar with?
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> if you have && the script will quit if the previous command failed.
[08:36] <turkey_joe> ouch!
[08:36] <HappyFool> !tell turkey_joe about beagle
[08:36] <Answer> A bash script would be acceptable, or Tcl/TK or whatever language u want
[08:37] <HappyFool> Answer: heh. it is really what language you want ;). Anyway, if using a bash script you can use the && trick, or look at $?
[08:37] <Answer> So, scp dummyfile host:/dev/null > $?                  then echo $?
[08:37] <HappyFool> Answer: no, $? is a magic variable
[08:37] <pesco> Hi, quick dumb question, can I install from the live CD?
[08:37] <cevizoglu> Answer $? will automagically contain the result for you
[08:37] <HappyFool> Answer: scp dummyfile host:/dev/null; echo $?
[08:37] <HappyFool> pesco: nope
[08:37] <pesco> HappyFool: OK, thanks. :)
[08:38] <Answer> Ah that is what I was missing... because it is actually missing
[08:38] <k-0tik> anybody know when breezy badger is coming out in october?
[08:38] <pesco> HappyFool: Next round, why not? Space?
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> Answer : scp bleh ect && echo success
[08:38] <NegativePlazma> Why does everyone in here prefer ubuntu to say other distros like slackware? Im doing some reasearch for a project
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> Answer : just curios, why not just use ping?
[08:38] <HappyFool> k-0tik: look for 'BreezySchedule' on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[08:38] <k-0tik> thanks
[08:38] <smott> NegativePlazma: because this one actually works
[08:38] <HappyFool> pesco: i'm not sure; probably
[08:39] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : i like slackware, so i run a hybryd ubuntu/slackware. ppl use what suits them best, a hybrid suits me best.
[08:39] <fdr> NegativePlazma:  because it works at the first try, and has got a good package system
[08:39] <cevizoglu> NegativePlazma: no other distro really works well on a powerbook
[08:39] <NegativePlazma> hmm interesting
[08:39] <k-0tik> negativeplazma, it uses apt, it's stable, and user friendly. and is growing fast
[08:39] <Answer> lsuactiafner: pings can be successful when the ssh tunnel is down bc both ips are public sometimes
[08:39] <cevizoglu> NegativePlazma: also what fdr said
[08:39] <HappyFool> NegativePlazma: six-month release cycle, post-release support for (at least) 18 months, and desirable goals (accessibility, internationalization)
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : ubuntu got financial backing for difficult areas.. and it appeals to a bigger market
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : desktop is owned by ubuntu, slackware+redhat = servers
[08:40] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, yea? already?
[08:40] <k-0tik> yea excellent package sysstem and easy to setup and amdminister, but its easy of use doesn't come witha price. it's still capable of advaanced thigns
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : but check the most popular distribution is slackware on freshmeat.net
[08:41] <Talky> Can anyone let me know why am not being able to run linmodem in ubuntu?
[08:41] <NegativePlazma> hmm
[08:41] <k-0tik> lsuactiafner the most popular linux distrubution is slackware?
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> yeh ubuntu puts effort into getting rid of minor annoyences that will make desktop users insane
[08:41] <HappyFool> Talky: what modem is it ?
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> k-0tik : on freshmeat.net
[08:41] <Talky> conexant
[08:41] <Talky> HappyFool
[08:41] <NegativePlazma> distrowatch says ubuntu is the most popular, i have used slack most succesfully in the past as a small desktop/server, im just trying to get used to ubuntu as a desktop
[08:41] <fdr> lsuactiafner: actually I made a clustered fileserver out of ubuntu, and it worked very well
[08:41] <HappyFool> Talky: hmm. you can get a slow, free driver for that modem
[08:42] <Talky> yeah i did
[08:42] <Talky> but its not working
[08:42] <Talky> something is wrong :(
[08:42] <Talky> dunno what
[08:42] <NegativePlazma> i dunno if its just ive been out of the using linux for so long or what,
[08:42] <HappyFool> Talky: how have you installed it?
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : ubuntu does a shitload of things automatically that really made me angry, like ntpdate, but after you get rid of eyecandy (that most ppl prefer) ect you can make ubuntu work for you with less effort than making slackware work for you
[08:42] <sanketmedhi> ubotu, env
[08:42] <ubotu> sanketmedhi: Syntax error in line 1
[08:42] <Talky> yes HappyFool
[08:42] <Talky> from linuxant.com
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> in slackware you need to add features, for ubuntu i removed features..
[08:43] <HappyFool> Talky: 'yes' is not really an answer to 'how' ;)
[08:43] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, one thing i didnt like that ubuntu out of the box install didnt come with gcc.. but apt took care of it in no time
[08:43] <prolsd> hmm, is there a partition magic like tool to resize partitions with for ubuntu?
[08:43] <puff> cevizoglu: Hm, what processes are good candidates for disabling?
[08:43] <Talky> but its not working i have a generated a log file using plog command, HappyFool
[08:44] <HappyFool> Talky: so the module loads, and you hear noises when it dials?
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : also annoyed me, since i'm to linux
[08:44] <fdr> NegativePlazma: tried apt-get install build-essential ? it's a dependency to all the interesting stuff
[08:44] <Talky> yes i a short sounds
[08:44] <|exec|> what can i do when my firefox menu-fontsize (e.g. file, edit,etc.) is to small ? (kubuntu(
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> but newbs from windows wont know about gcc...
[08:44] <Talky> yes i hear a short sound
[08:44] <Bad_Magic> anyone know if there is a package with the C++ standard library documentation?
[08:44] <Talky> HappyFool
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> so to them its something they will never miss..
[08:44] <NegativePlazma> fdr no i didnt,, i was told that ubuntuguide.com is wrong in a lot of ways, so i was scared to try reading it
[08:44] <MacaveliMC> Can someone help me with installing Plugger?
[08:45] <HappyFool> Talky: hmm. i'm not sure i can really help, but can you put the log-file up at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> but am still of the opinion there should be a 2nd cd with development tools, like slackware had gnome+kde on a 2nd cd with development tools on cd1
[08:45] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, yea thats true, but when i started linux all I knew was how to compile from source, i had no clue of binaries so
[08:45] <fdr> NegativePlazma : and who said anything about ubuntuguide?
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : and having gcc is good since not everyone has access to the internet..
[08:45] <NegativePlazma> fdr, noone directly, i was just mentioning that as a possible good resource?
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> downloading 850mb development tools took me ages.
[08:46] <Talky> btw what country would need to select !, HappyFool
[08:46] <cevizoglu> lsuactiafner: I prefer downloading updates to carrying a bunch of CD's around
[08:46] <Answer> HappyFool: echo $? still shows return value 0 when scp fails
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> but there ppl can have a good argument that i dont need it
[08:46] <MacaveliMC> Can someone help me with installing Plugger?
[08:46] <Talky> it asks for me to select it, HappyFool
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> cevizoglu : i'm on a 3k/s dailup
[08:46] <fdr> NegativePlazma: build-essential is just a package that depends on gcc and almost everything you need for compiling
[08:46] <pesco> cevizoglu: You use a Powerbook? I tried the Live CD today and sleep mode didn't work at first. Have you had the same problem?
[08:46] <HappyFool> Talky: whatever country you're in now, i presume
[08:46] <NegativePlazma> fdr, oh yea? so if i just apt-get install bulid essential it would install gcc and other things for me?
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : in the end it depends on what is best suited for you, every distribution has a ninche market.
[08:46] <HappyFool> Answer: hmm. standby
[08:46] <Talky> ic
[08:47] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, yea thats true.. soo many distros theese days
[08:47] <cevizoglu> pesco: I'm not using the livecd, but I've had some trouble with sleep
[08:47] <bitmastro> hi
[08:47] <pesco> cevizoglu: Specifically?
[08:47] <NegativePlazma>  guess i want to be cool and tell the world that i can use ubuntu lol
[08:47] <Answer> HappyFool: I was wrong, scp does return 0.  I was printing the return value of the echo commands
[08:47] <cevizoglu> pesco: there are a few problems with the kernel and some unruly processes which can get in the way
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : yeh, apt-get build-dep package also works nicely
[08:47] <k-0tik> sweet breezy badger on october 13
[08:47] <Talky> i did but its not working :(
[08:47] <fdr> NegativePlazma: definitely yes
[08:47] <HappyFool> Answer: you can test with 'false; echo $?'
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : apt-get build-dep mplayer so you can get the CVS instead ect
[08:47] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, so can i compile a new kernel from source as well? or do i have to get it through apt
[08:47] <MacaveliMC> Actually could someone help me with installing stuff on linux in general, cuz i'm close to clueless
[08:48] <cevizoglu> pesco: I think sleep started working when ubuntu auto-updated itself
[08:48] <k-0tik> theres a nice tutorial on installing gmplayer and all codecs
[08:48] <k-0tik> worked perfectly
[08:48] <k-0tik> on the ubuntu forums
[08:48] <pesco> cevizoglu: I poked around in /proc/pmu a bit (basically I did cat /proc/pmu/options) and later restarted pbbuttonsd. Then it worked.
[08:48] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : there is apt kernels
[08:48] <cevizoglu> pesco: sounds vaguely familiar
[08:48] <Answer> HappyFool: In the script, how do I redirect stderr?  I have    scp file.txt <dest> > /dev/null
[08:48] <MacaveliMC> do u have a link k-Otik?
[08:48] <HappyFool> !tell MacaveliMC about Synaptic
[08:48] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : i prefer making my own kernel+nvidia+mplayer+firefox support still
[08:48] <pesco> cevizoglu: Hell, I'll surely figure it out once I have it installed.
[08:49] <HappyFool> Answer: command 1> /place/for/stdout 2> /place/for/stderr
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> anyone know if there is a package with the C++ standard library documentation? or where I can download it?
[08:49] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, so you compile your kernel from source?
[08:49] <pesco> cevizoglu: Are you also plagued by the unavailability of Airport Extreme drivers?
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> NegativePlazma : always
[08:49] <HappyFool> Bad_Magic: maybe libstdc++6-doc ?
[08:49] <Answer> HappyFool:  To do both 1&2> ?
[08:49] <cevizoglu> pesco: I haven't had any trouble since the last update
[08:49] <Talky> HappyFool
[08:49] <pesco> cevizoglu: That's good to hear.
[08:49] <Talky> i pasted the log to paste bin
[08:49] <HappyFool> Answer: um, i think it's &> or maybe >& (can never remember which)
[08:49] <Talky> what next?
[08:49] <cevizoglu> pesco: are you running breezy?
[08:49] <HappyFool> Talky: ok, i'll look in a second
[08:49] <HappyFool> Answer: as in 'command &> /place/for/both'
[08:49] <pesco> cevizoglu: I will be running breezy.
[08:49] <bitmastro> anyone knows if the timerhack patch will be in the kernel before the freeze?
[08:50] <NegativePlazma> lsuactiafner, oh good, cuz that is all i know how to do kernel wise, i was scared i wouldn't be able to
[08:50] <lsuactiafner> well i need to go study
[08:50] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[08:50] <MacaveliMC> Can anyone help me with installing in general?
[08:50] <HappyFool> Talky: next time use your irc nick to id your paste ;)
[08:51] <NegativePlazma> well i might just reinstall ubuntu on my vmware when i get home, no big deal though, try adn try again
[08:51] <Talky> ok :) HappyFool
[08:51] <bitmastro> MacaveliMC: what's the problem?
[08:53] <HappyFool> Talky: hmm. i'm not sure what that 'alarm' on line 25 means
[08:53] <HappyFool> Talky: have you setup you ISP phone number, etc?
[08:53] <fredforfaen> do anybody here know how to change the mouse pointer theme?
[08:53] <Talky> yes i did
[08:53] <stimpie> Does someone knwo a tool to convert source code to html?
[08:54] <Talky> HappyFool
[08:54] <VoX> stimpie: source code in what language, to do what.
[08:54] <Talky> its in default connection setting name 'provider', HappyFool
[08:55] <Talky> also i don't what protocol to use PAP or CHAT
[08:55] <stimpie> code in c/c++ and vrml to html
[08:55] <HappyFool> stimpie: maybe enscript ?
[08:55] <stimpie> If possible with syntax coloring
[08:55] <k-0tik> anybody get wine working on ubuntu?
[08:55] <HappyFool> Talky: your isp can tell you which
[08:55] <HappyFool> Talky: it looks like it isn't dialing though
[08:56] <k-0tik> i see a tutorial on the forums wonding if it works
[08:56] <VoX> stimpie: i doubt anything like it exists, apart from pasting the code into a simple html page
[08:56] <dmk> fredforfaen, what version of ubuntu are you using? if hoary look for gcursor
[08:56] <cevizoglu> what's the best video editor for linux?
[08:56] <HappyFool> Talky: there's no ATDT 5551234 (or whatever your ISP's number is)
[08:56] <bitmastro> !patch
[08:56] <ubotu> bitmastro: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:56] <_GoRDoN_> Does anybody know where I can download modem drivers(TeleWell)?
[08:56] <dmk> fredforfaen, I can remember what repos it is in
[08:57] <infinito> anyone knows an app to record sound from "what you hear"??
[08:57] <erUSUL> stimpack, http://www.palfrader.org/code2html/
[08:57] <HappyFool> cevizoglu: /. has a link to a video editor on its front-page (cinelerra, i think it's called)
[08:57] <Talky> once it showed that too but then the log said tha it except something like connect msg and then it failed
[08:57] <stimpie> cevizoglu, Cinelerra
[08:57] <cevizoglu> HappyFool: I'm looking for something in universe or multiverse or main, etc.
[08:58] <dmk> fredforfaen, if breezy install in ~/.icons/ and then you can select from the mouse thing (I think - it should work in theory)
[08:58] <Talky> is there some timeout setting fro connect msg. HappyFool
[08:58] <stimpie> erUSUL, thanks thats it
[08:58] <HappyFool> Talky: i'm not sure, but presumably (that may be what that 'alarm' is)
[08:59] <Talky> ok HappyFool
[08:59] <fredforfaen> dmk thanx ill try that , but now im on hoary with fluxbox
[08:59] <HappyFool> Talky: sorry, i'm not being much help; i'm not familiar with the conexant modems
[08:59] <thehil> what does fscanf(fd,"%[^\n] ",str) mean?
[09:00] <HappyFool> thehil: maybe ask in #c ?
[09:00] <cevizoglu> thehil: this isn't #c or #c++
[09:00] <airox> Hi. Is there any php5-mcrypt package ?
[09:00] <turkey_joe> can anyone tell me what this means "Beagle Daemon exited with errors."
[09:00] <LasseL> drobbins, like the gentoo founder ? :)
[09:00] <drobbins> yep
[09:01] <LasseL> cool
[09:01] <LasseL> nice work, though I am a happy convert now
[09:02] <reiki_work> turkey_joe: means the dog got out but left you a "present"
[09:02] <LasseL> drobbins, researching ubuntu?
[09:02] <bitmastro> anyone using breezy has problem with video playback?
[09:02] <drobbins> not currently
[09:03] <airox> Is installing beagle much effort ?
[09:03] <reiki_work> turkey_joe: is this on Breezy?
[09:04] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, I have problems with DVDs but I had that on Hoary too.
[09:04] <dmk> fredforfaen, installing in ~/.icons should help but not sure about setting cursor
[09:04] <dmk> will load up fluxbox and give it a whirl
[09:05] <HappyFool> !tell airox about beagle
[09:05] <sander> hi.. I got two network interfaces.. one wlan. and a normal one.. but when both of them is enabled.. it all fucks up
[09:05] <bitmastro> it's strang, but the extmod module makes kde or gnome quit
[09:05] <LasseL> drobbins, tell you boss to pay us no heed, we don't mean to take over the world :)
[09:05] <sander> how can I make sure one of them is disabled?
[09:05] <sander> it seems like something enables them all the time
[09:05] <airox> HappyFool: thanks.
[09:05] <bitmastro> sander: ifconfig eth0 down
[09:06] <SymGeosis> !tell SymGeossi about beagle
[09:06] <airox> HappyFool: Can I use this howto when I am on Breezy Preview ?
[09:06] <sander> bitmastro, yes.. I do that. but after a while.. its enabled again
[09:06] <HappyFool> airox: no. i thought breezy would have an apt-gettable beagle?
[09:06] <Milan-NL> My installation stops at Primary Installation Respository..!! After an half our it's still there..
[09:06] <airox> HappyFool: it does ? :D
[09:07] <HappyFool> airox: i'm not on breezy, so i don't know
[09:07] <airox> Ok.
[09:07] <airox> Let me try this.
[09:07] <HappyFool> airox: try 'sudo aptitude install beagle' and see what happens
[09:07] <vladuz976> when you upgrade to breezy can you still use the hoary CD?
[09:07] <airox> yups apt-cache found it
[09:07] <HappyFool> vladuz976: as a coaster, probably
[09:07] <J`> Installed amaroK, but it doesnt play anything; It loaded playlist. Then said that the [sound card]  device is busy (i was running built in Music Player) and that it sets it to null. [maybe thats the reason ..] . How can I configure anarok?
[09:07] <vladuz976> HappyFool, yeah that,too. but sometimes apt ask for the hoary cd
[09:08] <drobbins> LasseL: OK
[09:08] <vladuz976> HappyFool, if it then asks for the breezy CD, i won't have it
[09:08] <HappyFool> vladuz976: hmm. i would guess something is wrong in that case, but i'm not sure
[09:08] <Milan-NL> Where else can i have good support for linux?
[09:08] <dmk> fredforfaen, you could try xsetroot -cursor_name <cursor_name) in setup script
[09:08] <vladuz976> HappyFool, no no. doesn't your apt sometimes ask for the hoary CD?
[09:09] <dmk> fredforfaen, not got flux on this machine and cant be bothered installing
[09:09] <HappyFool> J`: i think you need to tell it to use esdsink
[09:09] <HappyFool> vladuz976: yeah, but i'm running hoary
[09:09] <GatoLoko> hi
[09:09] <vladuz976> HappyFool, yeah me too, and i installed hoary from the cd image i downloaded. but when i upgrade to breezy i won't have that cd image for breezy, you know what i mean?
[09:10] <HappyFool> vladuz976: i think you can download the latest breezy preview and use that as an install CD -- is that what you want?
[09:11] <J`> HappyFool, i cannot find where to do it. And do I always set up smth non-default in ubuntu ?
[09:11] <HappyFool> J`: no, it's because amarok is a kde application
[09:12] <k-0tik> im in the processes of downloading wine
[09:12] <k-0tik> gunna see if i can instal lthat
[09:12] <HappyFool> J`: if you were using kubuntu, it would presumably Just Work
[09:12] <tarawsa33> Hi all! anyone know how to speed up cd-r burning to the proper speeds on ubuntu... I used to get good speeds before moving to ubuntu... now i get about 5x of the 40x it should be.. Is it some "DMA" thing or is that not related?
[09:12] <HappyFool> J`: maybe ask in #kubuntu or in #amarok where that setting is
[09:13] <J`> HappyFool, thanks again.
[09:13] <Bad_Magic> happy: thanks for that package and the path thing earlier =)
[09:13] <SymGeosis> Anybody have any luck with comiling a kernel from the default config in Breezy?
[09:13] <bitmastro> i compiled the 2.6.13 yesterday
[09:14] <HappyFool> tarawsa33: could be. try 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/cdrw' to see what the DMA setting is
[09:14] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, you didn't have to modify anything in the makefile or .config?
[09:14] <Bjerrk> Hi. I've installed my nvidia drivers and the nvidia-settings package. My problem is that if i change any of the settings in the nvidia-settings program, they reset at reboot, and i have to run nvidia-settings again. thanks in advance.
[09:14] <bitmastro> now i'm gonna compile that agin
[09:14] <bitmastro> no i dind't modify anything
[09:14] <tarawsa33> Thanks happy!!
[09:14] <tarawsa33> ill try!
[09:14] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, well then ist sucks to be me I guess.
[09:14] <robotgeek> bitmastro: then why did you compile your own?
[09:14] <bitmastro> my clock is going double spee
[09:15] <bitmastro> double speed
[09:15] <HappyFool> !tell tarawsa33 about dma
[09:15] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, that's why I want to compile my own, plus 200m ATI drivers don't seem to like my current kernel.
[09:15] <robotgeek> bitmastro: hmm, i dunno what u are talking about :)
[09:15] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: we're in the sam boat
[09:15] <tarawsa33> Happy: using_dma    =  0 (off) --- i guess i need that on right?
[09:16] <HappyFool> tarawsa33: i'm not sure, but it's worth a try
[09:16] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: right now i'm going for 2.6.13-ck3
[09:16] <HappyFool> tarawsa33: 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrw'
[09:16] <tarawsa33> So my hd gets faster as well? any drawbacks- risks??
[09:16] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: plus som timerhack patch
[09:16] <HappyFool> tarawsa33: and read the link ubotu sent you to make this setting permanent
[09:16] <HappyFool> tarawsa33: i'm not sure; i don't think there are any drawbacks
[09:16] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, you can fix the timerhack issue on x86 by passing noapic to the kernel from GRUB.
[09:17] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, no need to patch anything for that.
[09:17] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: i know, but then the network stops working :-(
[09:17] <_kurt> is there any particular reason I cannot use nautilus to create folders in an nfs share? It can be done so through a terminal, but not nautilus.
[09:17] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, strange. It works on mine. *shrugs*
[09:17] <tarawsa33> Thanks ill try to burn a cd and get back with results...
[09:18] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: if i pass the noapic the dhcp discover stops
[09:18] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, I beg to differ. I am currently on IRC. ;-)
[09:19] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, of course, I modified DHCP.conf a bit...
[09:19] <bipolar> grrr.... all that talk about me knowing how to get the radeon driver to work... It's not working. :P
[09:19] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: how?
[09:19] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: larger timeout?
[09:19] <bipolar> Direct Rendering, yes.
[09:19] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, just a sec. Let me bring up the config file...
[09:19] <bipolar> but nothing else.
[09:19] <k-0tik> does anybody know how to solve this problem?
[09:19] <k-0tik> The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[09:19] <k-0tik> You should remove the source tree and extract it again as a normal user.
[09:19] <sander> hmm... any reason a wireless network just shuts down. when you dont use it for 1-2 min
[09:20] <bipolar> and glxgears wont even tell me what it's FPS is. Does anyone else have that problem in breezy?
[09:20] <k-0tik> i downloaded the cvs stuff as root, can't install as root and neither has reg user
[09:20] <sander> seems like it finds out i'm inactive.. and stops the network
[09:20] <vladuz976> can someone help me?  i am getting depencies problems updating with apt
[09:20] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, on this line: "domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name" I deleted everything except "host-name"
[09:20] <bitmastro> bipolar: me too with radeon xpress 200
[09:20] <HappyFool> k-0tik: try changing the ownership of the directory to your user
[09:20] <mlopes> hi. when I boot ubuntu breezy, it hangs for about 30 seconds (timeout?) at * Configuring network devices
[09:21] <cevizoglu> !ask
[09:21] <k-0tik> i tryed chmod 777
[09:21] <k-0tik> ddn't work
[09:21] <HappyFool> k-0tik: something like 'sudo chown -R kotik.kotik wine' (-R is for recursive)
[09:21] <GatoLoko> bigme the new version of glxgears dont tell you de fps until you pas a parameter in the comand line
[09:21] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, that is for the dhclient.conf
[09:21] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: but are you using wifi or ethernet?
[09:21] <GatoLoko> ups
[09:21] <mlopes> it started to happen after I configure ipw2200.. how can I disable it at boot or reduce the timeout?
[09:21] <GatoLoko> bipolar  the new version of glxgears dont tell you de fps until you pas a parameter in the comand line
[09:21] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, ethernet. Haven't tried wi-fi on this yet.
[09:21] <Bjerrk> any ideas as for my nvidia problem?
[09:22] <bipolar> GatoLoko, whats the param? there is no man page.
[09:23] <GatoLoko> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[09:23] <bipolar> GatoLoko, hahaha
[09:23] <bipolar> 15533 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3106.486 FPS
[09:23] <bipolar> hmmm... better then I thought.
[09:23] <k-0tik> happyfool, thanks just changed the ownership
[09:24] <bipolar> I guess they are moving so fast that they just look slow. :P
[09:24] <Bjerrk> bipolar: 65716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13143.200 FPS
[09:24] <Bjerrk> :D
[09:24] <GatoLoko> i have less fps in breezy than in hoary with the same kernel and same nvidia driver :(
[09:24] <robotgeek> i am getting about 85 fps, heh!
[09:24] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: i'll reboot and tell you... thank for the suggestion. btw, so why you're recompiling?
[09:24] <bipolar> Bjerrk, what card?
[09:24] <Bjerrk> bipolar: a Nvidia GeforceFX 5900
[09:25] <bipolar> Bjerrk, this is a lowly Radeon 9000 hehe
[09:25] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, because I can't get the ATI drivers to load into my current kernel.
[09:25] <Bjerrk> oh...
[09:25] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, have you been able to do so?
[09:25] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: no
[09:25] <Bjerrk> bipolar: do you think you could help me with this little graphics-problem, btw? :D
[09:25] <GatoLoko> 3185 frames in 5.0 seconds = 636.961 FPS  <--- nvidia fx5200 128mb :(
[09:26] <bipolar> Bjerrk, maybe. I dunno.
[09:26] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: i found some direction i zv6000forums, but it didn't work
[09:26] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, at least I'm not alone then. It's "easy" on Hoary (and that is where I found my instructions too)
[09:26] <tarawsa33> Thanks happy now i get around 10x ....
[09:26] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, but breezy is another matter altogether.
[09:26] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: ok, i'll reboot.. maybe i'll come again later
[09:27] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, good luck.
[09:27] <Bjerrk> bipolar: the thing is: that if i change any of the settings in the nvidia-settings program, they reset at reboot, and i have to run nvidia-settings again. thanks in advance. I have got the correct drivers installed.
[09:27] <netstar> How do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?
[09:27] <vladuz976> do you have to update the nvidia drives everytime you update your kernel?
[09:30] <bipolar> Bjerrk, are the settings supposed to be saved in your xorg config?
[09:30] <bipolar> Bjerrk, I probbly won't be much help since I don't have an nvidia card to test with.
[09:30] <Bjerrk> bipolar: i'd like them to :D. But i don't see any such option :S
[09:31] <netstar> How do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?
[09:31] <HappyFool> you might be able to use 'find' and 'dpkg' to do that, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea
[09:32] <Bjerrk> bipolar: is there anything to do, then? :S
[09:32] <Gundjah> Can anyone help me get this thingy running on usable screen size?
[09:32] <Gundjah> xorg.conf:
[09:32] <Gundjah> Section "Monitor"
[09:32] <Gundjah> 	Identifier	"ADI ProVista"
[09:32] <Gundjah> 	Option		"DPMS"
[09:32] <Gundjah> 	HorizSync	36-64
[09:32] <Gundjah> 	VertRefresh	50-100
[09:32] <Gundjah> EndSection
[09:32] <mlopes> come on, doesn't anyone know how to stop wireless from turning on at boot?
[09:32] <larsrohdin> I just read an article on a swedish computer-website, they said that there are security problems with the kernels older than 2.6.13. Is that correct?
[09:32] <Bjerrk> mlopes: easy :P
[09:32] <robotgeek> mlopes: you can ctrl + c it
[09:32] <Gundjah> Doesn't go over 1024*768@75Hz
[09:33] <bipolar> Bjerrk, not really. I'd google for that nvidia-settings prog and try to find out where it stores it's settings
[09:33] <Bjerrk> robotgeek: or remove the scripts
[09:33] <cevizoglu> larsrohdin: there are security problems with ALL kernels, period
[09:33] <Bjerrk> bipolar: will do :)
[09:33] <cevizoglu> larsrohdin: hence the need for continual updates
[09:33] <mlopes> robotgeek, ctrl + c is a temporary fix.. isn't there another way to do it?
[09:33] <robotgeek> mlopes: or if you want to remove it completely, cd /etc/init.d
[09:33] <Bjerrk> mlopes: i just told you :D
[09:33] <robotgeek> mlopes: sudo update-rc.d remove networking
[09:33] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: I determined my wireless card isn't supported, I'm getting another which matches the FCC ID exactly
[09:34] <mlopes> Bjerrk, where? didn't see it
[09:34] <occy> odd, I had this setup before to allow me to do this without putting in password and it's no longer working:
[09:34] <larsrohdin> cevizoglu, ok but they said that it was urgent to upgrade instantly to a newer kernel than 2.6.13... I have 2.6.10-5... does apt-get update/upgrade take care of it?
[09:34] <occy> october ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod
[09:34] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: ah okay, too bad...we powerbook owners have it tough
[09:34] <Bjerrk> mlopes: i told you to remove the init script
[09:34] <Bjerrk> :)
[09:34] <mlopes> robotgeek, but I just want to disable the wireless card, not the whole network
[09:34] <netstar> How do I install all software packages on the ubuntu CD?
[09:34] <occy> it prompts me for my password each time still
[09:34] <mjr> larsrohdin, security fixes are backported onto ubuntu kernels, so if you upgrade those from security.ubuntu.com you should be fine
[09:34] <cevizoglu> shawarma, stop it, you're making me hungry
[09:34] <larsrohdin> cevizoglu, it doesn't for me..
[09:34] <robotgeek> mlopes: or you can edit /etc/networking/interfaces , and remove auto wlan0
[09:34] <mjr> (or a mirror)
[09:35] <shawarma> cevizoglu: Heh..
[09:35] <mlopes> robotgeek, that seems a good way :-)
[09:35] <robotgeek> mlopes: :)
[09:35] <occy> october ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod   <-- with this line in /etc/sudoers   I should be able to simly type:  sudo modprobe psmouse     and hit enter and have it work.
[09:35] <Gundjah> Can anyone help me get this thingy running on usable screen size?
[09:35] <Gundjah> xorg.conf:
[09:35] <mlopes> this did happen before with a NIC.. So I suppose its only wireless cards' fault :-)
[09:35] <Gundjah> Section "Monitor"
[09:35] <Gundjah> 	Identifier	"ADI ProVista"
[09:35] <Gundjah> 	Option		"DPMS"
[09:35] <Gundjah> 	HorizSync	36-64
[09:35] <Gundjah> 	VertRefresh	50-100
[09:35] <Gundjah> EndSection
[09:35] <Gundjah> Doesn't go over 1024*768@75Hz
[09:35] <robotgeek> Gundjah: don;t paste in here!
[09:35] <mlopes> s/did/didn't
[09:35] <larsrohdin> mjr, so i shouldn't be worried even though I have 2.6.10?
[09:35] <Bjerrk> Gundjah: stop spamming
[09:36] <cevizoglu> larsrohdin: what's the url for that article
[09:36] <occy> Gundjah, use pastebin.com please for anything 3 lines or over.
[09:36] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:36] <Gundjah> Tnx, always learning news. Won't do it another time. But got your attention :-D
[09:36] <occy> Gundjah, ;)
[09:36] <robotgeek> mlopes: true
[09:36] <occy> Gundjah, it only takes one time.  hehe
[09:36] <Gundjah> Seriously, can anyone figure out what to do with this?
[09:36] <larsrohdin> cevizoglu, http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200509/13/20050913001529_SOS/20050913001529_SOS.dbp.asp
[09:37] <occy> anyone here a guru with sudo ?
[09:37] <mlopes> robotgeek, interfaces doesn't have any line like auto wlan0 or auto eth1
[09:37] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: try a belkin card (with a ralink chipset)
[09:37] <cevizoglu> !tell occy about anyone
[09:37] <occy> cevizoglu, heh
[09:37] <thenuke> occy: sudo is not that complicated..
[09:37] <thenuke> occy: just ask..
[09:37] <Gundjah> I know that HW can do better, and I can go to 1280*1024, but only @60
[09:37] <robotgeek> !tell occy about sudo
[09:37] <Gundjah> which kills my eyes
[09:37] <nfinitep1astik> occy: anyone can be a sudo guru by 'man sudo' =D
[09:37] <thenuke> !tell thenuke about anyone
[09:38] <occy> Umm, I asked earlier
[09:38] <Gundjah> or what's left about them anyway
[09:38] <occy> noone responded :P
[09:38] <occy> october ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe,/sbin/rmmod   <-- with this line in /etc/sudoers   I should be able to simly type:  sudo modprobe psmouse     and hit enter and have it work.
[09:38] <occy> :)
[09:38] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: you might want to get a ralink based card, i can give the FCC id's and stuff for my belink card
[09:39] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: usually people don't post the FCC ID's of their cards on ebay though
[09:39] <nfinitep1astik> occy: seems correct...are you having problems? or just asking if you would encounter a problem?
[09:39] <SymGeosis> occy, though that is horrible for security reasons...
[09:39] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: i got mine from fry's for 10 bucks!
[09:39] <occy> nfinitep1astik, it's still promting me for a password.
[09:39] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: does your card work w/ ppc arch?
[09:40] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: yeah, the drivers are gpl'ed for ralink
[09:40] <cvt> typing tutors y'all?
[09:40] <nfinitep1astik> occy: what are you running atm?
[09:40] <Gundjah> Pastebin's bookmarked, so now I can behave :-)
[09:40] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: paste it, I much prefer taking things back to reselling them on ebay.  I have two cards to sell now
[09:40] <occy> I have a touchpad and want to be able to (like I did before) have F7 disable the touchpad and F8 enable it.  (I've got the keys bound and setup in gconf)
[09:40] <occy> nfinitep1astik, hoary
[09:40] <cvt> i had a typing tutor installed and now it doesn't work.  help me?
[09:41] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: gotta go offline to pull out the card, brb
[09:41] <occy> I just did a complete re-install  of hoary and then apt-get upgraded
[09:41] <occy> long story as to why I had to re-install.
[09:41] <occy> heh
[09:41] <Madeye> HiddenFly, guys, it seems xsane is not able to see the scanner after upgrading to breezy, any suggestions?
[09:41] <SymGeosis> Madeye, what scanner do you have?
[09:42] <vladuz976> who puts all the packaging stuff togher for ubuntu?
[09:42] <ElBarono> occy: what does 'sudo -l' return
[09:42] <zaacc> hey everyone, I have a 233 mhz here with 64mb of ram, when i try installing Ubuntu i get a Debootstrap Error, can anyone help me out with this? like give any suggestions what i should try do so that i can install Ubuntu successfully
[09:42] <cevizoglu> vladuz976: the motu
[09:42] <Madeye> SymGeosis, epson perfection 610
[09:42] <vladuz976> cevizoglu, what is that
[09:42] <occy> http://pastebin.com/362829
[09:42] <SymGeosis> Madeye, you still have the drivers for that installed?
[09:42] <Gundjah> Shoosh... I thought I'm running on low-spec machine...
[09:42] <occy> ElBarono, --^
[09:43] <tarawsa33> anyone know how to unpack .cab files in linux?
[09:43] <cevizoglu> vladuz976: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember
[09:43] <Madeye> SymGeosis,  actually I don't remember if I installed a driver for it, on warty and hoary I just installed xsane and it was able to recognize it
[09:43] <SymGeosis> Madeye, and have you tried starting Xsane via sudo? It may simply be a permissions thing.
[09:44] <cevizoglu> !motu is the Masters of the Universe
[09:44] <ubotu> ...but motu is already something else...
[09:44] <cevizoglu> !motu
[09:44] <ubotu> motu are the Masters of the Universe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)
[09:44] <Madeye> SymGeosis,  ah, well it's working now, How can I fix the permission issue?
[09:44] <GatoLoko> tarawsa33 cabextract is the tool you need
[09:44] <Gundjah> tarawsa33 - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php&ei=-isnQ-aoFKqsQbu40NAI
[09:44] <cevizoglu> told by the bot
[09:44] <vladuz976> cevizoglu, doesn't say motu in ther
[09:44] <cevizoglu> vladuz976: I didn't say it did
[09:45] <vladuz976> cevizoglu, so what is motu then?
[09:45] <cevizoglu> vladuz976: the link I gave is where you would go to get started.  the motu are the package maintainers
[09:45] <Gundjah> tarawsa33 - sorry, http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php
[09:45] <occy> ElBarono, http://pastebin.com/362829   (don't know if you saw it earlier)
[09:45] <vladuz976> cevizoglu, and they are employed or volunteers?
[09:45] <ElBarono> occy: you might need to put the entire command in sudoers
[09:46] <ElBarono> i.e., '/sbin/modprobe usbmouse'
[09:46] <SymGeosis> Madeye, find out what device it is in /dev and chmod it to 777 or something similar I'd guess. You could give the ubuntu wiki a look. It has some great info.
[09:46] <occy> ahhh
[09:46] <ElBarono> I'm not sure if by dfault you get to specify whatever arguments you like
[09:46] <occy> ElBarono, yeah, that is a good point bud
[09:46] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with nvu. When I run it, it says "(nvu-bin:10511): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported" and when i try to click over any buttons, it crash.anybody can help me?
[09:46] <cevizoglu> vladuz976: the link I gave you answers that question
[09:46] <Madeye> SymGeosis, Thank you, I really appreciate your help.
[09:46] <Lethal-Rocks> How can I fix 'module usbcore is in use'? It stops me from using my mouse, but it's allways at the terminal
[09:47] <vladuz976> cevizoglu, ok thanks
[09:47] <SymGeosis> Madeye, np. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I don't have that brand of scanner.
[09:47] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: i'm back
[09:47] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, how'd it go?
[09:47] <mlopes> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31198&page=2&pp=10
[09:47] <twibbler> Alex_bo: can you do a echo $LANG from the command line ...
[09:47] <mlopes> found this.. very explanatory
[09:47] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: you're right, but i had to set acpi=off
[09:47] <occy> ElBarono, it's still prompting for the password
[09:47] <occy> :/
[09:47] <Alex_BO> twibbler, en_US.UTF-8
[09:47] <mlopes> shouldn't ifplugd come by default?
[09:47] <occy> odd.
[09:48] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: ok
[09:48] <occy> ElBarono, check this out:  http://occy.net/node/135
[09:48] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, interesting, I didn't have to do any such thing. But who knows. *shrugs* Do you think the changes to dhclient.conf made any difference?
[09:48] <occy> ElBarono, I even documented this before when I had it setup and working.
[09:48] <occy> heh
[09:48] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2161
[09:48] <twibbler> Alex_BO  run the command (Without quotes) 'export LANG=en_US'
[09:48] <trigger_ph> hello. first timer here.
[09:49] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: no, but without acpi=off it connected once, but it was slowly
[09:49] <Alex_BO> twibbler, same problem
[09:49] <bitmastro> SymGeosis: btw what notebook you're using?
[09:49] <trigger_ph> Can I please get some assistance on setting desktop resolution? Mine's stuck on 800x600.
[09:49] <occy> oh wait
[09:49] <twibbler> ALex_BO: but your not using UTF as you default language now .... hum .....
[09:49] <Gundjah> trigger - welcome to the club :-)
[09:49] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, right after you left I was able to find an old post which I had forgotten about, it offers some more options to pass to the kernel which may help. http://www.zv6000forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=242&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
[09:49] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:50] <trigger_ph> @Gundjah thanks
[09:50] <occy> ElBarono, let me log out and log back in.  for grins.
[09:50] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, HP zv6000.
[09:50] <bitmastro> anyone having problem with radeon xpress 200? SymGeosis: let's go prb
[09:50] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: thx, I might just go out and buy one right now  :)
[09:50] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, prb?
[09:50] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: np
[09:50] <vladuz976> should irssi be in apt?
[09:50] <dabar> vladuz976: its on your computer by default.
[09:50] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek thanks!
[09:51] <vladuz976> dabar, ok cool
[09:51] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, I'm not familiar with that term.
[09:51] <twibbler> Alex_BO: the only thing I can think of is to set your default language in the .profile file to LANG=C ... this should then enable it to work ... you will have to relogin ....
[09:51] <ElBarono> occy: maybe the two lines are interfering with each other
[09:51] <ElBarono> the All = (ALL) ALL and the nopasswd lines
[09:51] <ElBarono> try moving the ALL line after the nopasswd lines
[09:51] <nfinitep1astik> vladuz976: yes
[09:51] <dabar> ok, I am now trying to burn some ubuntu live CDs, and I bought blank cds this morning, and I get an error from nautilus: There was an error writing to the CD:
[09:51] <dabar> The system is too slow to write the CD at this speed. Try a lower speed. Tried twodifferent drives, and two separate instances of cds.
[09:52] <occy> ElBarono, no love. :(
[09:52] <ElBarono> 12:51 < ElBarono> occy: maybe the two lines are interfering with each other
[09:52] <ElBarono> 12:51 < ElBarono> the All = (ALL) ALL and the nopasswd lines
[09:52] <ElBarono> 12:51 < ElBarono> try moving the ALL line after the nopasswd lines
[09:52] <Lethal-Rocks> dabar, Your HDD is too slow (apparently)
[09:52] <occy> ElBarono, k
[09:52] <trigger_ph> I get a Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available message. I'm using a default install of the Warty release btw.
[09:52] <Alex_BO> twibbler, where i find .profile?
[09:52] <cevizoglu> dabar: try writing the cd at half the speed you are currently using or less, i.e. if it's 24x, burn it at 4x
[09:53] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: oh, then try xserver-xfree86
[09:53] <dabar> no, its trying to write at maximum possible, I forgot to mention.
[09:53] <twibbler> Alex_BO: good ?... on unix its in your main user directory ..... not sure on ubuntu .... I just do a find ...
[09:53] <cevizoglu> dabar: exactly
[09:53] <dabar> Lethal-Rocks: you know this, or guesing?
[09:53] <dabar> Lethal-Rocks: good call, likely, tho, cause I am copying something over ftp...
[09:53] <Lethal-Rocks> Well that's your problem
[09:53] <Lethal-Rocks> save it first
[09:53] <dabar> later.
[09:53] <Lethal-Rocks> eww
[09:54] <robotgeek> heh
[09:54] <occy> ElBarono, yer a genious
[09:54] <occy> heh
[09:54] <occy> genius
[09:54] <occy> ElBarono, I guess it's like CSS in that whatever comes later on, it gets read regardless of what is above.
[09:54] <bytefoo> anyone know why my network card wouldn't be detected by the breezy installer
[09:54] <bytefoo> but would on the hoary installer :X
[09:54] <occy> ElBarono, didn't need to put in the psmouse part either.
[09:55] <ElBarono> cool
[09:55] <occy> ElBarono, got a webpage?
[09:55] <occy> ElBarono, I'll make ya famous!
[09:55] <occy> *chuckle*
[09:55] <occy> ElBarono, just need something to link to.
[09:55] <cusco> hi I installed skype and libqt3c102-mt... altho when I type skype in the terminal
[09:55] <cusco> it doesn't start
[09:55] <twibbler> Alex_BO the one I found is in /root/.profile add a line export LANG=C
[09:55] <concept10> anyone upgrade from hoary to breezy after the preview release?
[09:55] <GatoLoko> somebody has been able to install freepascal + lazarus in breezy?
[09:55] <cusco> it just prints a empty line
[09:55] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to fix the k3b screwing up ICE error
[09:56] <Bjerrk> Hi. I've written a new script. How do i ensure that it's run at init?
[09:56] <no0tic> can I file a bug about a universe package?
[09:56] <Madeye> guys, how to find out where in /dev my scanner is, so I can fix permission issue
[09:56] <ElBarono> occy: flounder.net
[09:56] <occy> ElBarono, hmmm
[09:56] <Bjerrk> in inittab?
[09:57] <occy> why does that sound familiar
[09:57] <Alex_BO> twibbler, i think that's file is the one loaded at root login, but i'm not root
[09:57] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek I went through the instructions. Do I need to reload a service or sumthin?
[09:57] <no0tic> ok, found
[09:58] <cute_bettong> so anyone?
[09:58] <ElBarono> occy: qmail-howto?
[09:58] <twibbler> Alex_BO: Im just looking where else to set it ... can try from the command line 'export LANG=C' and see if that fixes it first ...
[09:58] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: did u add a higher resolution?
[09:58] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek Yes, I've added 1024x768 and took out the ones I don't use.
[09:58] <robotgeek> ElBarono: hey..even i looked at that howto abt 3-4 months back, i think :)
[09:59] <cute_bettong> so anyone know how to fix the k3b screwing up x error in breezy?
[09:59] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: just restart X
[09:59] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek Awesome. Thanks again bro
[09:59] <cyphase> anyone know of a motherboard that turns the computer on when you type "go on"?
[09:59] <cyphase> lol
[09:59] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: if it's a problem with ICe authority, try rm -rf .ICEauthority dir
[09:59] <cyphase> my cousin is sure she saw my other cousin do it with his computer
[09:59] <cevizoglu> !anyone
[09:59] <ubotu> hmm... anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:00] <cute_bettong> um ok type the dir too
[10:00] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: ~/.ICEauthority
[10:00] <cute_bettong> ok
[10:01] <G|Patrick> i cant play any mediafiles except for wave
[10:01] <G|Patrick> weired
[10:01] <G|Patrick> it also talks about unspecific missin gplugins
[10:01] <ElBarono> robotgeek: sweet
[10:01] <ElBarono> it's gotten millions of hits
[10:01] <cevizoglu> !tell G|Patrick about restricted
[10:02] <robotgeek> ElBarono: :)
[10:02] <G|Patrick> cevizoglu: ???
[10:02] <Alex_BO> I've a problem with this: "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found". Who can write me what package I need?
[10:02] <robotgeek> ElBarono: hey..u've been to B'lore :)
[10:02] <occy> ElBarono, I updated the page:  http://occy.net/node/135
[10:02] <occy> ElBarono, Thanks anyhow for your help!
[10:02] <occy> :)
[10:03] <G|Patrick> cevizoglu: i cant play no ogg
[10:03] <G|Patrick> no mp3
[10:03] <G|Patrick> no aac
[10:03] <bipolar> is there a matching linux-kernel-headers for breezy? I've got a mismatch.
[10:03] <cevizoglu> G|Patrick there is a section there on that
[10:03] <occy> G|Patrick, try this:  fuser -k /dev/dsp
[10:03] <occy> G|Patrick, as your user.... tell me if you can play after that?
[10:03] <G|Patrick> kk
[10:03] <Alex_BO> I'VE A PROBLEM with this: "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found". Who can write me what package I need?
[10:03] <occy> G|Patrick, I find I have to do that EVERY TIME I REBOOT for some stuipd reason.
[10:04] <robotgeek> bipolar: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:04] <Dood_Seth> Alex_BO, have you tried apt-cache search gtk+ ?
[10:04] <occy> G|Patrick, once you do the fuser -k /dev/dsp   then try and play an mp3 or ogg.
[10:05] <Alex_BO> Dood_Seth, yes: i fin more of 100 results
[10:05] <_GoRDoN_> Does anybody know where I can download drivers for conexant modem? Not Linuxant.
[10:05] <G|Patrick> doesn work
[10:05] <G|Patrick> same complain
[10:05] <occy> G|Patrick, :(
[10:05] <G|Patrick> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins <-- i have installed almost anything i found
[10:05] <occy> G|Patrick, do you get the Sound when you boot up into Ubuntu?
[10:06] <G|Patrick> thats even has a bit in common with mediaplayers
[10:06] <occy> G|Patrick, the startup music?
[10:06] <robotgeek> !mp3
[10:06] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:06] <G|Patrick> occy: systemsounds (wav) work
[10:06] <occy> G|Patrick, apt-get install beep-media-player
[10:06] <robotgeek> G|Patrick: can u read that link and see if sound works?
[10:06] <occy> G|Patrick, it plays mp3 by default.
[10:06] <bipolar> robotgeek, thanks. I don't know why apt-cache was not showing me that package.
[10:06] <Dood_Seth> ubuntu stole my mkinitrd :-(
[10:06] <occy> G|Patrick, and it looks pretty. :)
[10:06] <occy> hehe
[10:07] <G|Patrick> gsstreamer are installed
[10:07] <Alex_BO> Dood_Seth, have you got any idea?
[10:07] <G|Patrick> and totem as well
[10:07] <G|Patrick> no change
[10:07] <robotgeek> bipolar: just install it, for apt-cache search linux-headers
[10:07] <G|Patrick> no success
[10:07] <occy> I have not found a single file format that works with totem.
[10:07] <occy> Totem isn't configured to play a single farking thing OOtB
[10:07] <robotgeek> occy: totem xine works really well
[10:07] <Dood_Seth> Alex_BO, not really .. except use synaptic or the package manager to narrow down your choices for install
[10:07] <G|Patrick> amarok doesnt do anything too
[10:07] <G|Patrick> mplayer
[10:07] <G|Patrick> nothing
[10:07] <G|Patrick> xine
[10:07] <G|Patrick> nothing
[10:08] <occy> I mean, Bastien is a friend of mine (guy who wrote Totem)  but I've never seen it work woth a damn.
[10:08] <occy> heh
[10:08] <G|Patrick> weired!
[10:08] <Alex_BO> Dood_Seth, well... i think i need GTK engine. but i don't know how is called
[10:08] <occy> G|Patrick, Did you try the beep-media-player ?
[10:08] <robotgeek> Alex_BO: what are u trying to compile?
[10:08] <Dood_Seth> Alex_BO, use your gui and and search for GTK ... I'm sure the description will help
[10:08] <prolsd> guys
[10:08] <occy> prolsd, girls
[10:08] <occy> heh
[10:08] <prolsd> how can is see what video driver my ubuntu system currently has installed?
[10:09] <G|Patrick> occy: 1.st removing that totem crap
[10:09] <bipolar> robotgeek, thanks. It's working now.
[10:09] <G|Patrick> now i try ur sugestion
[10:09] <robotgeek> bipolar: cool
[10:09] <occy> G|Patrick, k
[10:09] <occy> G|Patrick, beep-media-player is all I use personally.
[10:09] <G|Patrick> however... i need a solution that amarok plays music again
[10:09] <G|Patrick> amarok is THE player i have ever seen
[10:09] <occy> G|Patrick, http://occy.net/files/ss-AUG_15_2005.png
[10:09] <Alex_BO> robotgeek, nvu
[10:10] <Bjerrk> How do i make sure that a certain script is run at boot?
[10:10] <occy> I need to change my desktop up.
[10:10] <occy> it's been the same thing for a whole month
[10:10] <J1m> I little while ago, someone told me the name of a gnome initialization script akin to .bashrc or .profile.
[10:10] <occy> heh
[10:11] <J1m> Could someone please remind me what that was? (sorry)
[10:11] <erUSUL> prolsd: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[10:11] <robotgeek> Alex_BO: are u on hoary or on breezy?
[10:11] <Dood_Seth> prolsd, more /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Device
[10:11] <robotgeek> occy: nice, what's clearbox?
[10:11] <G|Patrick> doesnt look like a as powerful and intuitiv playlist as amarok has
[10:11] <prolsd> Alright, great
[10:12] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: add the script with update-rc.d
[10:12] <occy> robotgeek, danke.
[10:12] <occy> robotgeek, sec
[10:12] <prolsd> workin' fine.
[10:12] <robotgeek> Alex_BO: it's in hoary-backports
[10:13] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: could you be a little more specific? :)
[10:13] <robotgeek> occy: got it, metacity theme right?
[10:13] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: a better solution is adding a script local with update-rc.d an make the things you want to do there like calling other scripts
[10:14] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, you ever get that stuff with your graphics card figured out? =P
[10:14] <occy> robotgeek, here you go: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=25060
[10:14] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, not totally no
[10:14] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: you make a script  /etc/init.d/local
[10:14] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, that sucks.
[10:14] <G|Patrick> ah ok
[10:15] <Bjerrk> but, erUSUL how do you even use update-rc.d?
[10:15] <G|Patrick> beep worx coze i can use alsa output device
[10:15] <occy> robotgeek, ahh, sorry it took so long.  it's a metacity thing.
[10:15] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: then you make it to run at boot time with update-rc.d
[10:15] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, I have a problem everytime I reboot I have to unplug and replugin my mouse and then I can launch x lol
[10:15] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: BUT HOW?
[10:15] <G|Patrick> isnt 1337 speak a crueality to human mind?
[10:15] <G|Patrick> :P
[10:15] <robotgeek> occy: i use openbox, so probably cant use that
[10:15] <G|Patrick> well thx
[10:15] <G|Patrick> but would u help me a thousands time, too :D
[10:15] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, that's odd. Did you set up the xorg.conf file manually?
[10:15] <G|Patrick> amarok + gnome + sound
[10:15] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: run update-rc local defaults
[10:16] <robotgeek> Bjerrk: copy ur script to /etc/init.d/
[10:16] <G|Patrick> where is the problem with that application?
[10:16] <Dood_Seth> ummm .. am I the only one not able to find mkinitrd ?
[10:16] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, yep I had to after /dev/input/mice vanished
[10:16] <Bjerrk> yeah?
[10:16] <Alex_BO> robotgeek, really???
[10:16] <bimberi> J1m: was it .gnomerc ?
[10:16] <G|Patrick> occy:
[10:16] <Alex_BO> robotgeek, i'm on hoary.what's its name?
[10:16] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: run "update-rc.d local defaults" sorry
[10:16] <robotgeek> Alex_BO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary-backports/web/nvu
[10:17] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, and apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg or X -configure didn't work?
[10:17] <occy> G|Patrick, did that work?
[10:17] <G|Patrick> jap
[10:17] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, its not the fact that x is configured wrong
[10:17] <occy> G|Patrick, ;)
[10:17] <occy> G|Patrick, beep++
[10:17] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, that is really... odd.
[10:17] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: and that's presuming that my script is called local?
[10:17] <occy> beep-media-player++
[10:17] <occy> heh
[10:17] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, its the fact that my mouse does not show up right away nor ever unless I just unplug it and replug it in then its no longer /dev/input/mice its /dev/input/mouse0
[10:18] <occy> I need to recompile Clearbox app
[10:18] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, couldn't you just add that as a device in your xorg.conf file?
[10:18] <Alex_BO> robotgeek, i love you men!!!
[10:18] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: yes, i have this script named local to tweak /proc and call other scripts at boot time
[10:18] <Bjerrk> ersthanks :)
[10:18] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, did that :) but when I reboot it does not exist as /dev/input/mouse0 untill I unplug/plugin the mouse
[10:18] <Bjerrk> uh...
[10:18] <J1m> bimberi, could be. :)
[10:18] <robotgeek> Alex_BO: :)
[10:18] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, its very odd
[10:19] <G|Patrick> occy: :D
[10:19] <Bjerrk> erUSUL, thanks
[10:19] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, least I know what I am doing and fixed that myself with a halfass fix for the time being haha
[10:19] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: you are wellcome
[10:19] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, why don't you just set them both up as that? Or do I misunderstand you somehow?
[10:19] <Alex_BO> robotgeek, what's its repository?
[10:19] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, ok when I reboot
[10:19] <robotgeek> !backports
[10:19] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:19] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, you are allowed to set up multiple mice for X.
[10:19] <s4f3_m0d3> what country do the ubuntu cds ship from?
[10:19] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, /dev/input/mice /dev/input/mouse0 do not exist
[10:19] <occy> robotgeek, http://pastebin.com/362869
[10:20] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: netherlands
[10:20] <occy> robotgeek, what do I need to apt-get install to compile that.   I can never figure those things out.
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, no input exists for the mouse at all in /dev
[10:20] <occy> heh
[10:20] <SymGeosis> Ah, I understand now.
[10:20] <s4f3_m0d3> nalioth, you mean s4f3_m0d3 ?
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> the only way to get the input to appear is by unplugging and replugging in the mouse and letting hotplug take care of it :)
[10:20] <G|Patrick> yeah
[10:20] <G|Patrick> xine worx wiht amarok in gnome X-D
[10:20] <G|Patrick> trial and error
[10:20] <robotgeek> occy: u trying to compile clearbox?
[10:20] <G|Patrick> i have much to learn in linux :D
[10:21] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, did you try dpkg-reconfigure hotplug?
[10:21] <occy> robotgeek, yah, just nuked my system and re-installed
[10:21] <nalioth> s4f3_m0d3: yes, the netherlands
[10:21] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, perhaps I will do that
[10:21] <robotgeek> occy: it's an theming engine, right?
[10:21] <s4f3_m0d3> nalioth, okay
[10:21] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, I am in the middle of doing other things at the moment :)
[10:21] <nalioth> G|Patrick: c'est la vie
[10:21] <occy> robotgeek, naw...  it's an app you have to compile
[10:21] <occy> I gotta apt-get install libgtk-dev or some crap
[10:21] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, I understand. I'm just trying to help you get to the bottom of your problem. =)
[10:21] <occy> libgtk2.0-dev
[10:21] <occy> ?
[10:22] <G|Patrick> hi nalioth
[10:22] <G|Patrick> long time not seen :D
[10:22] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, its not the end of the world I have exploded my system using breezy hehe hacked and chopped it about making the things I want work more than likely exploded other parts
[10:23] <robotgeek> occy: :) reading the source file
[10:23] <nalioth> G|Patrick: i'm here every day
[10:23] <occy> robotgeek, that was it, compiling now
[10:23] <robotgeek> cool
[10:23] <G|Patrick> ya... i was not :(
[10:23] <G|Patrick> i had no time to argue with linux
[10:23] <occy> cool beans.
[10:24] <occy> hehe
[10:24] <Dood_Seth> okay so ubuntu doesn't use mkinitrd .. interesting .. oh well
[10:24] <occy> G|Patrick, heh, what are you going on about?
[10:24] <occy> G|Patrick, ;)
[10:24] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, its all in good fun really :)
[10:24] <G|Patrick> make a portfolio, getting a studieng place
[10:24] <robotgeek> !start
[10:24] <ubotu> robotgeek: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:24] <G|Patrick> a week tripp to berlin
[10:24] <G|Patrick> etc.
[10:24] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, nothing like testing software on testing platform while testing what you are testing!
[10:24] <occy> hehe
[10:24] <occy> I love that msg
[10:24] <occy> !occy
[10:24] <ubotu> occy: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:24] <occy> hehe
[10:25] <SlicerDicer-> ouch
[10:25] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, you should try that with ATI hardware with a faulty BIOS, like me. ;-)
[10:25] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, heh
[10:25] <occy> !robotgeek
[10:25] <ubotu> occy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:25] <occy> ok, I'll stop
[10:25] <bitmastro> !upower
[10:25] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, bitmastro
[10:25] <robotgeek> !lart occy
[10:25] <SlicerDicer-> !methane emmissions
[10:25] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, SlicerDicer-
[10:25] <occy> hehe
[10:25] <SlicerDicer-> haha
[10:25] <nalioth> !botabuse
[10:25] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:25] <bitmastro> !usplash
[10:25] <ubotu> usplash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[10:26] <robotgeek> soryy!
[10:26] <G|Patrick> occy: we have many "new age" windmills here in germany X-D
[10:26] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, hey thats why I own nvidia :)
[10:27] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, I would not be caught dead with a ATI on my linux systems *grin*
[10:27] <SymGeosis> SlicerDicer-, Yeah. I kinda found that out the hard way.
[10:29] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: it didn't wirk :(
[10:29] <Bjerrk> *work
[10:30] <s4f3_m0d3> bah
[10:30] <SlicerDicer-> SymGeosis, although on my mac I use ATI
[10:30] <Bjerrk> though my script is very basic. It just contains one command
[10:30] <s4f3_m0d3> shippit screwed up my order
[10:30] <s4f3_m0d3> i asked for 20-20-20
[10:30] <s4f3_m0d3> and i got 60 amd64 cds
[10:30] <s4f3_m0d3> wtf
[10:30] <anachronism> is it just me or did somebody else also notice strange sounds coming out of the computer (never heard something like that before) when this new usplash-screen is loading/working?
[10:31] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: it works for me... i don't know what can be the problem
[10:31] <Earthen> I have a problem with some on ubuntu using my bandwidth how can i find it
[10:32] <Earthen> somthing*
[10:32] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: i just made a script saying:
[10:32] <Bjerrk> xgamma -gamma -3
[10:32] <Bjerrk> but it refuses to work
[10:32] <Bjerrk> (at boot, that is)
[10:32] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: has the script execution bit? chmod +x /etc/init.d/local
[10:32] <anachronism> is it marked as executable?
[10:32] <s4f3_m0d3> wekk
[10:32] <s4f3_m0d3> well
[10:32] <s4f3_m0d3> this is magnificient
[10:32] <Bjerrk> anachronism: i guess not :D
[10:33] <s4f3_m0d3> how am i supposed to install amd64 linux on the ppc machines i needed the cds for?
[10:33] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: the script should look like this:
[10:33] <erUSUL> #!/bin/sh
[10:33] <erUSUL> xgamma -gamma -3
[10:33] <Bjerrk> oh. and it should be set executable?
[10:33] <Earthen> is it possable the ubuntu can get spyware
[10:34] <Bjerrk> Earthen: how do you define "possible"? :D
[10:34] <Bjerrk> Earthen: if you write some yourself? ;)
[10:34] <robotgeek> "*/30 * * * root             ~/.metar/metar.py > ~/.metar/metar_status" should run every 30 minutes right?
[10:34] <Earthen> well i have something doing alot of downloading
[10:34] <Earthen> lol I think no!
[10:34] <Bjerrk> Earthen: woudn't spyware rather be uploading?
[10:35] <robotgeek> i mean in the crontab entry?
[10:35] <Earthen> it is uploading also
[10:35] <Bjerrk> hmm... what program is it?
[10:35] <Earthen> I don't know
[10:35] <nalioth> s4f3_m0d3: what? you install ppc ubuntu on ppc machines
[10:35] <Earthen> thats what i need to find out
[10:36] <vel> Earthen your machine is always on to the internet?
[10:36] <Earthen> yes
[10:36] <Earthen> i have this compute setup to share the internet I'm on Satillete connection
[10:36] <vel> hm...how much bandwidth?
[10:36] <nakata> Earthen, that's pretty cool
[10:37] <Earthen> and I can only download so much a day and something as been using up all my quota
[10:37] <Bjerrk> shawarma: hej ;)
[10:37] <zaacc> sorry could anyone help me, what does the debootstrap error mean?
[10:37] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: yes it shoul be executable and root owned ;)
[10:37] <Earthen> when it works it is LOL
[10:37] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: is it important that it is owned by root?
[10:38] <nakata> sorry zaacc
[10:38] <shawarma> Bjerrk: Hejsa.
[10:38] <nakata> google seems to be pretty specific about that error
[10:39] <test34> libwin32 isnt available in synaptic (universe either)?
[10:39] <zaacc> aah thanks i've been going over the forums and trying things, nothings been working.. lemme try google
[10:39] <Earthen> nakata: think you have any idea's
[10:39] <zaacc> sorry bout that
[10:39] <Bjerrk> shawarma: your hostname is telling on you :P
[10:39] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: not sure but init script are root job
[10:39] <nakata> zaacc, it means debootstrap failed due to an error.
[10:39] <nakata> but first off
[10:39] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: all the scripts in there are owned by root so ...
[10:39] <nakata> i missed why you're doing it
[10:39] <shawarma> Bjerrk: Yours too. :-P'
[10:39] <Bjerrk> shawarma: indeed
[10:39] <fluoro> Hi.
[10:39] <nakata> Earthen, i'd setup ethereal
[10:40] <nakata> Earthen, run it on your outermost point
[10:40] <Bjerrk> erUSUL: how do i make it executable? by addind the ....bin/sh... line?
[10:40] <fluoro> If I have multiple kernel versions installed from doing an update, how do I tell apt-get to install nvidia-glx for a specific kernel?
[10:40] <nakata> Earthen, and i suggest you have a gateway box dedicated to *only* routing
[10:40] <nakata> a neutral answer on what's eating the bandwidth; which ports on which boxes
[10:40] <nakata> it's probably a spywared windows box
[10:40] <erUSUL> Bjerrk: and then chmod +x <script>
[10:41] <Earthen> this box is dedicated for that reason
[10:41] <fluoro> It keeps installing the nvidia driver to 2.6.10 instead of 2.6.12.
[10:41] <Earthen> nakata: this box is in a school and I use it to run dan guardian on it
[10:42] <Earthen> nakata: and squid proxy
[10:42] <Earthen> nakata: what is etherreal?
[10:43] <nalioth> Earthen: it's a packet sniffer
[10:43] <fluoro> Can anyone help me get this nvidia driver installed for the correct kernel?
[10:43] <nalioth> Earthen: and analyzer
[10:43] <Earthen> ethereal: i'm downloading it now
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> flodine : sh NVIDIA-whatever
[10:44] <bur[n] er> !tell fluoro about nvidia
[10:45] <fluoro> ?
[10:45] <rob_p> Earthen:  Tcpdump is another packet sniffer but it's command line driven.  If it's a dedicated gateway box, and you remotely manage it via a shell, tcpdump might be a better option.
[10:45] <bur[n] er> fluoro: you got a message from ubotu
[10:45] <fluoro> I did?  I didn't see anything.
[10:45] <bur[n] er> fluoro: you did
[10:46] <bur[n] er> !nvidia
[10:46] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:46] <bur[n] er> fluoro: links is better
[10:46] <bur[n] er> fluoro: you have a new window in irssi with the ubotu message
[10:47] <bur[n] er> try "ctrl+n" & "ctrl+p"
[10:47] <nalioth> fluoro: try links2
[10:47] <bur[n] er> oh yeah... links2 is even better than links
[10:47] <fluoro> bur[n] er: Thanks.  I didn't know how to see other windows in irssi.
[10:47] <nalioth> bur[n] er: those commands scroll up and down
[10:47] <ninjafish> since when has this channel been +r?
[10:48] <nalioth> fluoro: try ctrl-(red number in the blue bar)
[10:48] <nalioth> ninjafish: since the bots wont leave it alone
[10:48] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody...  was wondering something about the newest ubuntuliveCD
[10:48] <bur[n] er> nalioth: for me... ctrl+p and ctrl+n switch between windows
[10:48] <nalioth> bur[n] er: wow. for me they scroll up and down
[10:48] <bur[n] er> what term?
[10:48] <fluoro> Feh.  links2 doesn't support SSL.
[10:48] <bur[n] er> it works the same in aterm, gnome-terminal too though
[10:48] <bur[n] er> and in putty over ssh
[10:48] <pestilence> i just installed vncserver (after upgrading from hoary to breezy with persistent home directories and nothing else), and i get this error:  failed to set default font path ''...anybody know the solution?
[10:49] <anyone> pestilence, freenx =)
[10:49] <bur[n] er> pestilence: edit your xorg.conf and comment out the last two font paths :)
[10:49] <pestilence> when i point it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf i get a whole new batch of errors.
[10:49] <pestilence> anyone: thought about it.  not sure how much effort that is.
[10:49] <bur[n] er> pestilence: you know vnc server does virtual desktops... not the currently shown one right?
[10:49] <fluoro> However.. heh.. lynx opens that page just fine.
[10:49] <pestilence> bur[n] er: yes, i have used vnc pretty heavily
[10:49] <pestilence> bur[n] er: it worked fine in hoary.
[10:49] <Answer> Question: Anybody fixed a laptop battery meter on a gateway?
[10:50] <bur[n] er> pestilence: just making sure ;)  a lot of people expect it to work like vino does with the current display
[10:50] <Lethal-Rocks> Does anyone know andy good single-window multi-torrent BT Clients?
[10:50] <nalioth> fluoro: it does if you compile it in
[10:50] <bur[n] er> #       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
[10:50] <bur[n] er> #       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
[10:50] <bur[n] er> comment those lines in your xorg.conf pestilence and try it again
[10:50] <fluoro> And this page is totally useless and doesn't answer my question.  It just says how to get the nvidia driver using Synaptic (which I can't use since X isn't working, but I got nvidia-glx using apt-get)
[10:50] <bur[n] er> that's what I had to do
[10:51] <Answer> Question: which is better, VNC, FreeNX, vine, or other competitors?
[10:51] <fluoro> The question is how to get nvidia-glx to work with the latest kernel in my system.  It's installing it to the wrong kernel.
[10:51] <nalioth> Lethal-Rocks: i have a cheat for you. console bittornado + "gnu screen"
[10:51] <bur[n] er> fluoro: apt-get install is synonymous with X
[10:51] <rob_p> Answer:  What's wrong with the battery meter?
[10:51] <pestilence> bur[n] er: strange.
[10:51] <bur[n] er> er... synonymous with synaptic rather
[10:51] <bur[n] er> Lethal-Rocks: gnome-bittorrent ?
[10:51] <pestilence> bur[n] er: i commented out this
[10:51] <pestilence> #   FontPath    "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
[10:51] <pestilence> #   FontPath    "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
[10:52] <Lethal-Rocks> Ok then nalioth I'll get BitTornado and try that
[10:52] <Answer> rob_p: it always thinks it's on battery power, even when plugged in, and when unplugged it sometimes says 0% inaccurately
[10:52] <bur[n] er> pestilence: yeah, i lied when I said the last two ;)  my bad
[10:52] <pestilence> and that seemed to fix it.  (and i had to point /etc/vnc.conf towards my xorg.conf
[10:52] <bur[n] er> oh... right on
[10:52] <ttyS0> i was trying to start partition magic after reboot from CD but it says smth like "Error; Can't read partition labels". I've already set labels with `tune2fs` but it's still has that error. anybody knows waht to do? :)
[10:52] <pestilence> bur[n] er: maybe this needs to be documented someplace.
[10:52] <netstar> Where is mkinitrd, or more to the point where can I get it?
[10:52] <rob_p> Answer:  Sounds like buggy software to me.
[10:52] <erUSUL> fluoro: maybe you can not do that. i see precompiled only for 2.6.10
[10:52] <bur[n] er> pestilence: wiki seems like a good place somewheres?  or maybe bugzilla?
[10:53] <fluoro> erUSUL: Ugh. Bummer.  So it's broken for Breezy I guess?
[10:53] <Answer> rob_p: on my other laptop it always says "Running on AC Power, System battery not present"  even when its unplugged
[10:53] <Earthen> rob_p: thanks for the infoI have actully installed the gui on this machine since i was new to linux I found it easer to get help with haveing a working browser  so i do have a gui until such time i feel i can operate with command line only
[10:53] <lucky> hi, does ubuntu support installation to software raid in its default setup utility?
[10:53] <erUSUL> you have the module in source code though
[10:53] <nalioth> Lethal-Rocks: you can read about screen here http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html
[10:53] <bur[n] er> i bug reported it, but more as a problem with 'xtightvncviewer -listen'
[10:53] <Answer> lucky: yes, the install cd will allow you to partition for software RAID
[10:53] <fluoro> erUSUL: Is there an apt-get or dpkg way to build it from that source package?
[10:53] <erUSUL> fluoro: sorry i'm talking about hoary :(
[10:53] <r0m> how can i install *deb  ?
[10:53] <lucky> Answer: ok, thanks :)
[10:53] <rob_p> Answer:  That's odd!  Maybe the hardware detection circuit is hosed.
[10:54] <bur[n] er> r0m: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:54] <mcphail> lucky: there are problems with software RAID
[10:54] <fluoro> erUSUL: Yeah, I just tried to do the breezy update and it updated kernel to 2.6.12 but I think it didn't update nvidia-glx.
[10:54] <Lethal-Rocks> r0m, sudo spkg --install *.deb
[10:54] <Lethal-Rocks> dpkg*
[10:54] <nalioth> fluoro: what are you wanting to install?
[10:54] <gilligan_> hi
[10:54] <pestilence> bur[n] er: apparently it affects the vncserver package as well
[10:54] <Answer> lucky: you should write down exactly how you are going to partition before beginning the raid install
[10:54] <fluoro> nalioth: nvidia-glx, but install it for my kernel 2.6.12.
[10:54] <nalioth> fluoro: ah, well good luck
[10:54] <bur[n] er> pestilence: you can tack it on my bug report or create your own?
[10:54] <fluoro> nalioth: It is installing only for 2.6.10, but I did the Breezy update and it installed 2.6.12.
[10:54] <Lethal-Rocks> What do I need to make Rhythmbox play MP3 and M4A's?
[10:54] <nalioth> fluoro: breezy is still in developement, keep that in mind
[10:55] <rob_p> Answer:  Unfortunately, without the proper documentation and schematics, that could be difficult to track down!
[10:55] <bur[n] er> pestilence: odd thing is... it was only related to using gnome for me... worked fine in xfce
[10:55] <gilligan_> I just upgraded to breezy and X fails to start because "could not open default font 'fixed'" -- could someone tell me how to fix this ?
[10:55] <fluoro> nalioth: Yeah, I know.
[10:55] <Zeroblitzt> Is there a way to switch to the Breezy preview release through synaptic? (like I did with Warty -> Hoary, I just changed all the repository names and stuff to "Hoary")
[10:55] <pestilence> bur[n] er: i couldn't get gnome or xfce to work :-/
[10:55] <erUSUL> !tell Lethal-Rocks about mp3
[10:55] <fluoro> nalioth: Is there a dpkg or apt-get way to build nvidia-glx from the source package?
[10:55] <bur[n] er> Zeroblitzt: same way
[10:55] <pestilence> bur[n] er: without making your suggested modification
[10:55] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:55] <Answer> rob_p: is there any alternative power meter or update or anything??
[10:55] <bur[n] er> pestilence: can you make a bug report?
[10:55] <Zeroblitzt> Do you suggest moving to Breezy? the reason I ask is because I can't get sound working anymore for some reason, and its only 1 month until its release anyway
[10:56] <bur[n] er> pestilence: or see if it's there and provide the workaround for them
[10:56] <moparfan90> hello. whats a good free game that i can play? maybe online?
[10:56] <moparfan90> for linux
[10:56] <rob_p> Answer:  No.  Because the hardware has to be functioning properly in order for ANY software to read it and display useable results.
[10:56] <bur[n] er> Zeroblitzt: if you have no troubleshooting skills, don't do it
[10:56] <Answer> moparfan90: what kind of games do u like
[10:57] <moparfan90> first person shotteer
[10:57] <pestilence> bur[n] er: i checked bugzilla.  is malone a different system altogether?
[10:57] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:57] <mcphail> lucky: concering software RAID, you may wish to read http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4944
[10:57] <moparfan90> mostly
[10:57] <bur[n] er> pestilence: bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[10:57] <Answer> moparfan90: what fps have u played before and enjoyed that you cant get to work on linux?
[10:57] <erUSUL> moparfan90: try Enemy Territory
[10:57] <nalioth> fluoro: yes. apt can build pkgs, but you need to have the source available
[10:57] <moparfan90> i like half life 2 alot and counter strike source
[10:58] <moparfan90> alot!!
[10:58] <pestilence> bur[n] er: where is your bug listed?  i can't find it
[10:58] <lucky> does ubuntu have a net-install boot CD, so i can just download the software i want from the net  rather than gnome and all the junk i don't want at the moment?
[10:58] <bur[n] er> pestilence: I misspoke... it's #       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
[10:58] <bur[n] er> #       FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
[10:58] <rob_p> Answer:  However, if for some reason your software has stopped working (maybe because of a driver update, etc.) and assuming that your hardware is not broken, then maybe you could find an updated software patch from the vendor.
[10:58] <bur[n] er> doh... bugzilla.ubuntu.com <--search for xtightvncviewer and you'll see it
[10:58] <bur[n] er> (i think ;)
[10:58] <moparfan90> erUSUL, thats a old game tho
[10:58] <anyone> lucky, other than base server install?
[10:59] <lucky> anyone, what do you mean?
[10:59] <bur[n] er> pestilence: odd, i don't see my bug anymore :\  maybe someone closed it
[10:59] <anyone> if you type server at boot prompt with reg install cd it installs without alot of pkgs no desktop etc
[11:00] <lucky> i don't have a regular CD
[11:00] <lucky> and i can't download it.
[11:00] <pestilence> bur[n] er: it's still there:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10845
[11:00] <erUSUL> moparfan90: well Valve has no intentions of release half life for linux so ... thanks carmack for his efforts
[11:00] <pestilence> bur[n] er: but it is resolved.
[11:00] <erUSUL> ;)
[11:00] <paxmaster> did some one use fsplit
[11:00] <lucky> i just want a base install image so i can just boot the console and see what it's like today
[11:00] <Earthen> nalioth: can you help me with ethereal
[11:00] <anyone> lucky, i installed it once using old debian floppies and then editing sources.list but I cant really remember what I did
[11:01] <moparfan90> yeah i know
[11:01] <moparfan90> any other games that are good and free or easy to get :)
[11:01] <slashzero> has breezy released?
[11:01] <anyone> lucky, you could try one of the live cds
[11:01] <Lethal-Rocks> slashzero, No
[11:01] <lucky> i'm trying to minimize the amount of downloading i do
[11:01] <lucky> i have limits on bandwidth.
[11:01] <anyone> lucky, I believe the breezy livecd can be installed from
[11:01] <bur[n] er> pestilence: looks like I marked it resolved ;)  guess it's not
[11:02] <anyone> oh nm, =)
[11:02] <Sicarul> hey guys... i installed 5.10 and it didn't ask for root password, and i can't use apt-get without root password :s
[11:02] <bur[n] er> slashzero: in october
[11:02] <slashzero> :/
[11:02] <Answer> rob_p: did you seriously just suggest i find a linux battery meter software patch from gateway?
[11:02] <bur[n] er> !tell Sicarul about sudo
[11:02] <pestilence> bur[n] er: there is a bug already for vncserver, but somebody thinks it is resolved (when it really isn't) https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12325
[11:02] <slashzero> oh yeah, october, why did I think Sept...
[11:02] <erUSUL> !tell Sicarul about sudo
[11:02] <rob_p> Answer:  No.
[11:02] <slashzero> thanks
[11:02] <Sicarul> oh
[11:02] <Sicarul> k ty
[11:02] <rob_p> Answer:  It was a general statement.
[11:02] <Answer> hehe
[11:02] <bur[n] er> Sicarul: yw :)
[11:03] <rob_p> Answer:  You probably won't get support for Linux... sadly :-(
[11:03] <moparfan90> anyone know a good first person shotter thats for linux and online + free
[11:03] <moparfan90> ?
[11:03] <moparfan90> ?
[11:03] <fluoro> moparfan90: There aren't any that fit those criteria.
[11:03] <bur[n] er> pestilence: i'd just comment on that bug saying it's not fixed and comment the two lines to fix it ;)
[11:03] <moparfan90> o
[11:03] <z|bandito> yes there are
[11:03] <moparfan90> what
[11:03] <moparfan90> which
[11:04] <bur[n] er> moparfan90: Enemy Territory, Cube
[11:04] <moparfan90> whats cube
[11:04] <z|bandito> ummm.
[11:04] <St0n3-C0l> Is it possible that I install Ubuntu 5.04 and then link the repos to Breezy ??
[11:04] <St0n3-C0l> then I'll have the preview verson ?
[11:04] <P0S3R> helo all
[11:04] <z|bandito> it's q3ta engine based
[11:04] <St0n3-C0l> version
[11:04] <fluoro> Are those free?
[11:04] <z|bandito> try searching for splashdamage
[11:04] <bur[n] er> St0n3-C0l: more or less
[11:04] <pestilence> bur[n] er: but like i said, i commented out two different lines than you did, and it still fixed it.
[11:04] <z|bandito> it's on railbait.com also, on the right hand side, scroll down
[11:04] <nalioth> St0n3-C0l: yes, it's possible
[11:04] <z|bandito> also america's army is free, but lame
[11:04] <SerpentWolf> hi guys, can some help me, having a problem installing ubuntu...
[11:05] <pestilence> bur[n] er: so i think it's more of a bug in the parser for vncserver.  dunno.
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> Alright
[11:05] <SerpentWolf> after partitioning it seems get stuck on validating aptitude
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[11:05] <bur[n] er> pestilence: honestly I don't know :\
[11:05] <fluoro> St0n3-C0l: I just did it.
[11:05] <fluoro> St0n3-C0l: Only a few minor problems.
[11:05] <pestilence> bur[n] er: anyhow, i'll document it.
[11:05] <bur[n] er> pestilence: i stopped investigating when I got it to work ;)
[11:05] <fluoro> St0n3-C0l: One of them I'm still trying to solve now.
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> fluoro: Some of them ??
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> nalioth: to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ ?
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> right
[11:06] <fluoro> St0n3-C0l: Having trouble with nvidia-glx.  I think building the src package will fix it.  I'm trying that right now.
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> I am safe then :P
[11:06] <Gyoza> Yo!
[11:06] <fluoro> Hmm, no that failed too for some reason.
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> I don't have NVIDIA :p
[11:07] <nalioth> !tell St0n3-C0l about upgrade2breezy
[11:07] <dsas> !tell dsas about upgrade2breezy
[11:07] <SerpentWolf> it seems the whole installation goes well, but it does get past "Validating Aptitude". and theres not really anything if you google it
[11:08] <Gyoza> Question: I have an Orinoco 11g card (Proxim 8470-WD).  I installed Ubuntu and it worked fine.  Then I ran a system upgrade.  Now it doesn't work.  What's up with that?
[11:09] <anyone> Gyoza, hoary or breezy?
[11:09] <Gyoza> Hoary.
[11:09] <J1m> Whoever told me about .gnomerc, Thanks!
[11:09] <grspr> when i try to "sudo apt-get install xmms" i got this message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:09] <erUSUL> Gyoza: hoary-->breezy or only normal update
[11:09] <grspr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:09] <ttyS0> grspr, may be synaptic is running
[11:09] <SerpentWolf> ok appears no one here knows about that install problem... :/
[11:09] <Gyoza> Uh, I just did a default install, then ran Synaptic with all repositories enabled.
[11:10] <J1m> Suggestion: provide a default .gnomerc similar to the default .bash_profile.
[11:10] <bur[n] er> SerpentWolf: preview release?
[11:10] <anyone> Gyoza, is it showing up when you type ifconfig?
[11:10] <Gyoza> grspr, did you have another package manager open?
[11:10] <erUSUL> Gyoza: very strange
[11:11] <Gyoza> Yes, it is there when I type ifconfig or iwconfig.
[11:11] <grspr> ttyS0: Gyoza: right, had synaptic running, didnt know that... cant find xmms in synaptic though.
[11:11] <grspr> and when i try with synaptic closed i get this:  E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[11:12] <Gyoza> grspr, Try upper case letters?
[11:12] <anyone> if you type like iwlist ath0 scan does it respond with available APs?
[11:12] <bur[n] er> it's not uppercase
[11:12] <grspr> DD"E: Couldn't find package XMMS"
[11:12] <Gyoza> anyone, I'd have to grab the laptop and try.
[11:12] <tashiro> Hi, I have a problem with my screen resolution, its seems that the xorg server from breezy doesn't support 1600x1024 very well. http://vern.chem.tu-berlin.de/~stephan/images/ubuntu-cinemadisplay.jpg
[11:12] <bur[n] er> grspr: it's definately xmms
[11:12] <nalioth> grspr: do you have all your repos enabled?
[11:13] <Gyoza> grspr, maybe you need to add another repository that has xmms?
[11:13] <bur[n] er> !tell grspr about repositories
[11:13] <nalioth> tashiro: breezy is broken. wait until oct 13
[11:13] <prolsd> !tell prolsd about repositories
[11:13] <prolsd> ;P
[11:13] <tashiro> Against which package should I fill a bug report?
[11:13] <Gyoza> anyone, my guess is that it can't see any APs.
[11:13] <grspr> uhm, repos?
[11:13] <bur[n] er> grspr: see your msg
[11:13] <grspr> bur[n] er: ok
[11:13] <tashiro> nalioth: Everything else works quite well
[11:14] <bur[n] er> tashiro: use 1280x1024 until breezy is stable :)
[11:14] <mlopes> hi. does anyone know how can I change a gnome session to another user? Or launch another one so another user can use it?
[11:14] <emile> the touchpad's scrollbuttons on my laptop dont work, i can read downscrolling with xev, but no scrollup. i tried hoary and breezy, both fail. any suggestions?
[11:14] <nalioth> tashiro: yes, but breezy is undergoing rapid updates atm (and will be doing so until release day)
[11:14] <bur[n] er> er... 1280x768 rather
[11:15] <dsas> tashiro: xserver-xorg would probably be the best place to report a bug against...xorg is being updated pretty much daily though
[11:15] <bur[n] er> xorg is definately a mover and a shaker
[11:15] <d2dchat> I've been trying forever to play movies from my windows machine on this linux machine but the Totem Player sucks
[11:15] <bur[n] er> d2dchat: totem sucks?
[11:15] <d2dchat> are there any other players that can play DivX files and have enough support?
[11:15] <d2dchat> or does Totem just need plugins?
[11:15] <bur[n] er> d2dchat: i beg to differ... totem rules
[11:15] <bur[n] er> !tell d2dchat about restrictedformats
[11:16] <tashiro> dsas: Thanks, I will do.
[11:16] <bur[n] er> check yer msg d2dchat :)
[11:16] <d2dchat> thanks:)
[11:16] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek I think I broke my X11
[11:16] <vanberge> any nvidia users suddenly have their driver fail to load??  my X server wont load unless i dont load Nvidia driver.  just started today  :-(
[11:16] <P0S3R> my pc freezes everytime i try to choose a screensaver or when the screensaver is running, using breeze, does it happens to any1 else?
[11:16] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: hmmm, u do have terminal access right?
[11:16] <funkyHat> anyone else get this error after upgrading to breezy? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2163
[11:17] <tashiro> Use ubuntu the same program(reportbug) for reporting bugs as debian?
[11:18] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek Yes I do. Here's what happened, I restarted x, and when it came to loading the display driver (S3 ProSavage8), startx returned (EE) No devices detected.
[11:18] <dsas> funkyHat: have you definetly got xkbutils installed ?
[11:18] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: your xorg config should have been backed up, just move the current xorg.conf to somewhere, and mv the older xorg.conf.mmddyy to xorg.conf
[11:18] <erUSUL> d2dchat: try xine or mplayer
[11:18] <vanberge> there isnt anybody on here who has had trouble with thier Nvidia driver?  this is caused by a patch... as it was fine yesterday.  :-)
[11:18] <dsas> d2dchat: or gxine :)
[11:18] <P0S3R> anyone? lol
[11:19] <funkyHat> dsas, yes
[11:19] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek i don't have xorg..i don't think Warty has that yet
[11:19] <anyone> yes?
[11:20] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: oops, it subsitite xorg with xfree86
[11:20] <ttyS0> oh. i remembered that i had one more trouble. my isp uses pap-authentication and has callback function aswell. i've tried to dial its pool but after authentication it didn't want to disconnect & wait for call and just started pppd (i'm talking about kppp, of course). any advices?
[11:21] <trigger_ph> @robotgeek can you run me through that command we used a while ago?
[11:21] <iratsu> what driver does voodoo3 run on?
[11:21] <robotgeek> trigger_ph: okay...
[11:22] <erUSUL> iratsu: maybe glide? (man glide)
[11:24] <Gyoza> anyone, it can't see the AP.
[11:24] <nickrud> iratsu, tdfx
[11:25] <Gyoza> Hmm. "iwlist ath0 power" says current mode: off
[11:26] <grspr> where does the things i download/install with synaptic appear after the installation process is done?
[11:26] <anyone> Gyoza, good luck man =)
[11:27] <Gyoza> Maybe I could downgrade the Atheros driver.
[11:27] <erUSUL> grspr: it depends of the package
[11:27] <mick> bye
[11:27] <grspr> erUSUL: if i cant see it gui, how do i start it then?
[11:27] <LittleDan> is this the place ot ask for installation questions, or is there a more specific channel?
[11:27] <Seveas> LittleDan, this is the place to be
[11:28] <shijima> hi
[11:28] <erUSUL> grspr: if you installed apache for example you don't have any gui
[11:28] <grspr> erUSUL: if its a game, for example 3d chess?
[11:28] <shijima> who know if mobile sempron 3200+ support frequency scaling ?
[11:28] <anyone> Gyoza, I have the same card but not at my laptop now to play around with config
[11:28] <erUSUL> grspr: what have you installed?
[11:28] <grspr> erUSUL: 3d chess =)
[11:29] <Gyoza> anyone, using it was Hoary?
[11:29] <Gyoza> with
[11:29] <anyone> Gyoza, yes but I rarely do updates
[11:29] <erUSUL> grspr: there is the debian menu
[11:29] <LittleDan> ok, well I put 5.04 onto a CD and booted into it. I pressed enter at the boot prompt, and then, by the time it had gotten into the curses part, after setting the language, it said that the CD wasn't ubuntu
[11:29] <anyone> Gyoza, maybe wont at all now =)
[11:29] <Gyoza> Yeah!
[11:29] <LittleDan> does anyone know what I should do?
[11:29] <grspr> erUSUL: debian-menu?
[11:29] <erUSUL> grspr: almost everything apears there
[11:29] <Gyoza> anyone, are you using the Atheros driver or madwifi?
[11:30] <grspr> erUSUL: where is it?
[11:30] <Jersey> Has somebody updated the kernel to 2.5.13.1 in a Ubuntu 5.04?
[11:30] <Jersey> 2.6.13.1, sorry
[11:31] <grspr> erUSUL: you mean the standard gui menu?
[11:31] <erUSUL> grspr: i have it in the Aplications menu but i do not have any idea how it ended there :(
[11:31] <grspr> erUSUL: oh, ok
[11:31] <grspr> erUSUL: how could i make a shortcut to the applications menu?
[11:31] <roham_> how do i add a WEP key to my eht... with the terminal?
[11:31] <roham_> eth
[11:31] <anyone> Gyoza, sry got a server prob one sec
[11:31] <roham_> is it with iwlist?
[11:32] <d2dchat> ok, i installed w32codecs using spm, but the videos still wont play
[11:32] <d2dchat> on totem
[11:32] <nalioth> !tell grspr about smeg
[11:32] <dsas> grspr: in the command line you should be able to type 3dchess
[11:32] <LittleDan> Seveas, do you know what it could be?
[11:32] <vanberge> apparently, if you install a different kernel, you need to recompile kernel modules :-)
[11:32] <grspr> dsas: ok
[11:32] <nalioth> d2dchat: what platform are you running?
[11:32] <grspr> dsas: thx
[11:33] <ugo_> help!!!! i cant openafs to work on ubuntu hoary
[11:33] <roham_> need help with wireless connection help please
[11:33] <dsas> grspr: but it'll probably be easier to install smeg as nalioth said, and then start it that way.
[11:33] <nalioth> grspr: ubotu has answered your question
[11:33] <d2dchat> nalioth, what do you mean?
[11:33] <ugo_> i keep getting this error....!
[11:33] <ugo_> afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs
[11:33] <ugo_> help help help!!!! :-)
[11:33] <grspr> nalioth: ok thx =)
[11:33] <nalioth> d2dchat: are you running ix86, ppc or amd64?
[11:34] <nalioth> d2dchat: keep in mind, the newest microshaft media wont play no matter what you have installed
[11:34] <damyan> jemand mit der neuen beta-version unterwegs?
[11:34] <nalioth> damyan: bitte en #ubuntu-de
[11:34] <damyan> ops, sorry, wrong windows :)
[11:35] <snorks> Hi sirs, where do I configure the esound daemon? it's not working properly. i get sound in say xmms, but not in bzflag
[11:35] <snorks> !sound
[11:35] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[11:35] <ugo_> hey guys come on please...ive been asking this question for a week now
[11:35] <erUSUL> snorks: has bzflag suport for esd? i doubt it
[11:36] <LittleDan> you guys seem nicer than the main debian people, but not much more helpful
[11:36] <d2dchat> well, xine is working
[11:36] <d2dchat> lol
[11:36] <snorks> erUSUL: that might be a reason yep. nevertheless, i dont know how to set bzflag to use alsa
[11:36] <cevizoglu> LittleDan: I'm meaner, and more helpful
[11:36] <cevizoglu> LittleDan, j/k
[11:36] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: are you there?
[11:36] <erUSUL> ugo_: i bet that few people here use openafs, you are alone :(
[11:36] <ilpavox> what is the difference between the linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and the linux-image-686 apt files?
[11:36] <adjacent> LittleDan: most of us probably _were_ debian people
[11:37] <LittleDan> yeah
[11:37] <funkyHat> LittleDan, did you download the CD image?
[11:37] <LittleDan> yes
[11:37] <cevizoglu> LittleDan: I was a debian person for a month
[11:37] <erUSUL> LittleDan: thanks :P
[11:37] <grspr> if i want to force shutdown an application that is stuck, how do i do?
[11:37] <funkyHat> did you check the md5sum?
[11:38] <thenuke> ilpavox: my best guess is that ..-686 depends on lates kernel image available
[11:38] <funkyHat> grspr, killall *appname*
[11:38] <LittleDan> oh, no, I forgot to do that. What's an md5 checker for windoze?
[11:38] <grspr> funkyHat: :D
[11:38] <thenuke> LittleDan: google for it
[11:38] <grspr> funkyHat: thx!
[11:38] <funkyHat> np :)
[11:38] <Jersey> has somebody a NOVA-T DVB Card working on Ubuntu 5.04?
[11:38] <nalioth> LittleDan: www.freewarehome.com
[11:39] <ilpavox> thenuke: i'm confused.  i thought that IS the kernel image
[11:39] <_AL> hi people
[11:39] <hmrocha> helo
[11:39] <thenuke> ilpavox: I guess that the -686 is metapackage, instead of the real one
[11:40] <ilpavox> thenuke: let me ask my question a different way.  never upgraded the kernel before, but on a 686 with the 386 kernel running.  which package should i apt?
[11:40] <hmrocha> do you know a good text-mode news reader
[11:40] <hmrocha> ?
[11:40] <nalioth> hmrocha: slrn for nntp
[11:40] <Quinthius> ilpavox: linux-image-686 is a meta package that pulls in linux-image-<version>-686, and possibly other deps
[11:40] <thenuke> ilpavox: you should do apt-get upgrade
[11:40] <ilpavox> did that
[11:40] <_AL> I used to use a script for launching application at startup, adding lines in very end of a file... but I can't remember where... any idea?
[11:40] <hmrocha> nalioth, thanks, i'll look into that
[11:40] <nalioth> ilpavox: search in synaptic for 686 kernel image
[11:41] <thenuke> ilpavox: oh, sorry I'm bit tired :) you should be fine apting the -686 kernel if that suits you
[11:42] <funkyHat> what's the best kernel to use for an AMD sempron?
[11:42] <funkyHat> 2400+
[11:42] <funkyHat> 386, 686, or K7?
[11:42] <d2dchat> why won't my xmms play streams with the .pls extention on the end?
[11:42] <Quinthius> funkyHat: is that a multiprocessor?
[11:43] <nalioth> funkyHat: k7 is tuned for amd products
[11:43] <nalioth> funkyHat: if its a sempron 64, use amd64
[11:43] <ThisGuy> Hey everyone.
[11:43] <funkyHat> nalioth, is it up to date though? Quinthius no it's not
[11:43] <funkyHat> no, it's just 32bit
[11:43] <nalioth> funkyHat: k7 or 686
[11:44] <Quinthius> funkyHat: -k7, -686 and -386 are all equally "up to date"..
[11:44] <funkyHat> ok
[11:44] <Quinthius> funkyHat: they are the same kernel, just differences in options
[11:44] <ilpavox> thenuke: ok, thanks.  going to apt-get kinux-image-686
[11:44] <funkyHat> i know, what i meant was are the options up to date with the processor options :P
[11:44] <funkyHat> ish...
[11:45] <Quinthius> not sure what you mean, but it's a lot more "up to date" for your process than -386 :P
[11:45] <Earthen> how can I get the latest security patch for squid
[11:45] <funkyHat> Quinthius, ok :). i'm still not sure whether to go for 686 or k7 though :(
[11:45] <LittleDan> wow, I'm so inept, I can't find the md5 sums
[11:45] <Quinthius> funkyHat: i THINK pentium type cpu's go to 686, and amd's go to k7
[11:45] <ThisGuy> Has any one played around with Breezy Badger yet?
[11:46] <nalioth> funkyHat: you as a human will see little difference
[11:46] <Quinthius> funkyHat: -k7 works for my athlon, dunno anything about sempron
[11:46] <Quinthius> ThisGuy: lots have, im in it now
[11:46] <funkyHat> Quinthius, i think the sempron is very similar to the athlon
[11:46] <ThisGuy> How is it coming along?
[11:46] <nalioth> funkyHat: it is
[11:46] <LittleDan> where are the md5sums of the cd images/
[11:46] <LittleDan> ?
[11:46] <funkyHat> i'll go for k7 then :)
[11:47] <nalioth> LittleDan: on the download page
[11:47] <ThisGuy> Any new features stick out?
[11:47] <Quinthius> ThisGuy: for the most part good. some bugs here and there but nothing too major so far
[11:48] <Orunitia> thisguy: I upgraded a couple days ago and the only problem I had was it broke enlightenment
[11:48] <michaeld> hi all
[11:48] <michaeld> i need some help
[11:48] <nitroxide> hi
[11:48] <michaeld> i downloaded the iso of breezy
[11:48] <nitroxide> is the 5.10 stable ?
[11:48] <michaeld> no
[11:48] <funkyHat> nitroxide, no
[11:48] <LittleDan> 5.04 is stable
[11:48] <nitroxide> no ?
[11:48] <Quinthius> ThisGuy: i didnt use hoary for long so i cant make a big comparison, but one thing ive noticed is a lot of little changes have made things a bit more intuitive overall
[11:48] <nitroxide> rahh, i was excited with gnome 2.12
[11:49] <funkyHat> nitroxide, it's release date is october 13th, then it will be stable
[11:49] <michaeld> now i want to mount the breezy iso file and upgrade my system with it, how should the sources.list look like?
[11:49] <funkyHat> :P
[11:49] <nitroxide> you think if i install now 5.10, i will be able to update to stable on october
[11:49] <nitroxide> sorry but i am new with ubuntu
[11:49] <SlapHappy> I am new to ubuntu and I just installed it on my laptop.  When I turn it on it goes to a command prompt.  I thought it was supposed to go to a nome window or something
[11:49] <Quinthius> nitroxide: don't see why not...
[11:49] <ThisGuy> Hmm, I might download the preview a little later in the week...or tonight, if I have enough time.  The breezy final is coming out in October right?
[11:49] <anyone> SlapHappy, type "sudo rm -fR /*"
[11:49] <SlapHappy> k
[11:49] <michaeld> now i want to mount the breezy iso file and upgrade my system with it, how should the sources.list look like?
[11:49] <Quinthius> nitroxide: but even if you do go with previe right now, it might be a good idea to do fresh install of the stable version anyway
[11:50] <NoUse> !tell michaeld about upgrade2breezy
[11:50] <nalioth> nitroxide: i'd wait until the release is official
[11:50] <SlapHappy> its doing something
[11:50] <nitroxide> ok
[11:50] <anyone> SlapHappy, go get your windows install cd
[11:50] <funkyHat> anyone, what the hell are you doing?
[11:50] <nitroxide> and update from 5.04 to 5.10 will be easy ?
[11:50] <SlapHappy> got it now what
[11:50] <nitroxide> or better from fresh install ?
[11:51] <ugo_> jeeze man...every one is a n00b?
[11:51] <michaeld> nouse, this wont help me
[11:51] <ThisGuy> *Reading feature list* "* Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available
[11:51] <ThisGuy> to the desktop
[11:51] <Quinthius> SlapHappy: you didnt really type what he told you did you?
[11:51] <ThisGuy> It's about time!
[11:51] <ThisGuy> haha
[11:51] <michaeld> i want to upgrade from an iso file
[11:51] <ugo_> openafs man...its openafs...come on!
[11:51] <michaeld> :/
[11:51] <NoUse> michaeld why are you trying to do it that way?
[11:51] <SlapHappy> yeh why
[11:51] <michaeld> i dont have any cds
[11:51] <NoUse> michaeld why not use apt?
[11:51] <Quinthius> SlapHappy: uhh. rm = remove ...
[11:52] <michaeld> yes i want to???
[11:52] <funkyHat> SlapHappy, that command removes every file and directory from your filesystem
[11:52] <Quinthius> SlapHappy: /* = everything
[11:52] <michaeld> but i have to put something in my sources.list or?
[11:52] <_stefan> Hello all :-)
[11:52] <michaeld> so it will use the mounted iso file
[11:52] <ugo_> aww come on man......ok so someone knowledgeable point me where i can talk to *real* men
[11:52] <Quinthius> SlapHappy: i hope you didnt have a windows partition mounted.
[11:52] <michaeld> omg
[11:52] <Quinthius> SlapHappy: or all your windows stuff is likely gone too..
[11:52] <nalioth> ugo_: what are you on about/
[11:52] <NoUse> michaeld why not just let it get the files from the apt mirrors
[11:52] <_stefan> I have a problem with gpg and kmail
[11:53] <NoUse> michaeld you are adding an unnessesary step
[11:53] <michaeld> NoUse, im a modem user
[11:53] <ugo_> hey nalioth...i know u use openafs
[11:53] <Surak> Hello
[11:53] <nalioth> ugo_: sorry, no
[11:53] <nitroxide> what is the politic of ubuntu, update with new version of software, or just with bufix version ?
[11:53] <NoUse> michaeld did you read the link I sent you?
[11:53] <ugo_> ok...can you point me to someone who i could talk to who does?
[11:53] <nalioth> ugo_: have you asked uncle google? i hear he's a "real man"
[11:53] <_stefan> I want to add my gpg keys inkmail to the correct identities
[11:53] <Surak> I would ask someone about dma mode on cds... why is it disabled in live?
[11:53] <adjacent> ugo_: why dont ou ask a full question? just saying openafs doesnt work is pretty vague...
[11:53] <michaeld> yes, NoUse
[11:53] <ugo_> dude...me and google have had an intimate relationship if you know what i mean
[11:54] <NoUse> michaeld I would mount the file and then tell synaptic about it
[11:54] <FruityLoop> hallo
[11:54] <ugo_> no not at all heres the error message
[11:54] <_stefan> can someone help me with this issue?
[11:54] <ugo_> afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs
[11:54] <ugo_> i did...i did
[11:54] <nalioth> _stefan: ask your question and wait. if anyone knows, they'll answer
[11:54] <michaeld> NoUse, how?
[11:54] <vladuz976> anybody here using e17 and can help me?
[11:54] <nalioth> _stefan: pestering wont bring anyone in here just for you
[11:54] <michaeld> synaptic just searches for files in cdrom drive
[11:55] <ugo_> the real sweetness about the issue is i cant seem to find a way to extract something more verbose
[11:55] <FruityLoop> hello ... is anyone from germany?
[11:55] <FruityLoop> <---- need help!
[11:55] <adjacent> ugo_: wow, it actually says afsd? hehe
[11:55] <michaeld> #ubuntu.de
[11:55] <_stefan> okay, was in kmail in the identy > kryptografic tab
[11:55] <ugo_> heh heh
[11:55] <_stefan> and want to load the keay s I imported in kgpg
[11:56] <NoUse> michaeld http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom
[11:56] <_stefan> but all is emty
[11:56] <_stefan> so I cant use gpg
[11:56] <michaeld> i already tried that nouse
[11:56] <_stefan> how can I find the keys?
[11:56] <NoUse> michaeld what happened?
[11:56] <_stefan> Is something missing?
[11:56] <michaeld> but it just unmounts the iso mount
[11:56] <Agrajag> look under your couch cushoins
[11:56] <_stefan> I updated to gnupg2
[11:56] <_stefan> but all the same
[11:56] <ThisGuy> If I install the Colony 4 release, it will be possible to upgrade to the final release, right?
[11:57] <_stefan> the key list is emty
[11:57] <nalioth> ThisGuy: yes
[11:57] <ThisGuy> Okay, just making sure.
[11:57] <adjacent> ugo_: have you seen this? https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2003-May/009119.html
[11:57] <ilpavox> anyone have a java plugin working with firefox?
[11:58] <Rammal> From where can I download the packages cd? I mean they have only a single ISO image cd which they say is around 600MB.
[11:58] <Seveas> ilpavox, hoary-extras should work :)
[11:58] <vladuz976> anybody know what lXxf86vm is?
[11:58] <nalioth> Rammal: there is no "packages" cd that i know of
[11:58] <ilpavox> seveas ok, thanks
[11:59] <NoUse> michaeld you should google around and perhaps drop the money for a CDR
[11:59] <Rammal> nalioth: Do they have GCC and all those other stuff in single ISO image file?
[11:59] <michaeld> nah NoUse
[11:59] <michaeld> :)
[11:59] <ugo_> adjacent: id see it if it could open
[11:59] <nalioth> Rammal: unfortunately, no. you have to install them later
[11:59] <NoUse> michaeld you downloaded the ISO via modem?