[12:08] <JaneW> night
[12:10] <ogra> night JaneW sleep tight... and beware the cockroaches ;)
[12:12] <JaneW> ogra: argh, don't remind me!
[12:12] <JaneW> ogra: and these ones FLY
[12:12] <JaneW> life in Africa *sigh*
[12:12] <ogra> get a cat :)
[12:12] <JaneW> we have 2... lazy buggers ;)
[12:12] <ogra> mycat even hunts the flies ere
[12:12] <ogra> here even
[12:12] <JaneW> night then, hope you are sleeping today.
[12:12] <JaneW> good cat ;)
[12:12] <ogra> i will :)
[12:22] <mpt> JaneW: Yeah, it's all fun and games until one day you type "/nick <password>" when you meant "identify <password>"
[12:22] <mpt> *cough*
[12:23] <ogra> lol
[12:23] <ogra> hope you changed it
[12:23] <mpt> yes
[12:40] <petter_> hello everyone!
[12:40] <petter_> I have a kinda special problem I think
[12:41] <petter_> the eduational program menu dissapears sometimes
[12:41] <petter_> restarting gnome-panel helps it back. but just for a while
[12:42] <petter_> and sometimes it comes back all by it self. It seems like it has nothing to do with anything I do
[01:26] <ogra> petter_, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14967 add comments there if you like, we're tracking the issue already
[06:18] <shik45> where is Ubuntu based out of?
[06:18] <shik45> where are yall based out of?
[07:18] <highvoltage> shik45: ubuntu is based on debian. the developers are spread all over the world.
[07:41] <shik45> k
[07:41] <shik45> i smell ya
[07:41] <shik45> no headquarters hig
[08:23] <rejden> mornin
[08:39] <JaneW> lo
[09:33] <JaneW> highvoltage: oing
[09:33] <JaneW> highvoltage: ping
[09:33] <JaneW> highvoltage: can you log into the edubuntu wiki today? I can't...
[09:38] <highvoltage> JaneW: pong
[09:40] <JaneW> highvoltage: so can you?
[09:41] <highvoltage> JaneW: https://launchpad.net/
[09:41] <highvoltage> launchpad is down, so authentication on edubuntu wiki is down too.
[09:44] <highvoltage> JaneW: no
[09:44] <JaneW> grrrr
[09:45] <highvoltage> no one can. it probably won't be long for down, they have a message up, so it seems like routine work.
[09:45] <highvoltage> (down for long)
[09:46] <highvoltage> JaneW: are you coming in today?
[09:48] <JaneW> highvoltage: nope, was up working and talking to mdz until well after 12... 
[09:49] <JaneW> highvoltage: didn;t have the enegery to drive in ;)
[09:49] <JaneW> highvoltage: but I need an edubuntu demo - you got it installed?
[09:49] <JaneW> I'd like to install it soon too... walk the talk, you know...
[09:50] <highvoltage> JaneW: yes, i do.
[09:50] <JaneW> highvoltage: cool
[09:51] <highvoltage> the iso i installed was from aug28.
[09:51] <JaneW> the preview should be better...
[09:51] <highvoltage> i'll download the latest one when our bandwidth is fixed again.
[09:51] <JaneW> nod
[09:52] <highvoltage> yes, but we get 3kb/s at the moment, due to a big connection problem in joburg.
[09:52] <highvoltage> so i'll have to wait until our connectivity is fixed before i can download.
[09:59] <JaneW> I hate it when I get blocked from getting something finished...
[11:40] <JaneW> Steve Torrefranca/ Javacide is our star wall paper artist...
[11:41] <JaneW> please vote for his work (if you like it) http://art.ubuntu.com/
[12:02] <EricV> Hello
[12:07] <JaneW> **REMINDER** Edubuntu meeting in +-2 hours on #ubuntu-meeting
[01:05] <JaneW> **REMINDER** Edubuntu meeting in +-1 hour on #ubuntu-meeting
[01:07] <spacey> i'll be there :)
[01:08] <spacey> to get bit up to date
[01:59] <JaneW> **REMINDER** Edubuntu meeting in +-2 mins on #ubuntu-meeting
[04:01] <rickfitz> ogra: should we be testing with daily build or preview?
[04:02] <ogra> rickfitz, the daily has the right default IP and dropped the dhcp questions... but its lacking the autogenerate code for dhcp.conf... 
[04:03] <ogra> so if you use an other ip than the provided default, it might break... but if you can keep that ip range the install is a no brainer...
[04:03] <rickfitz> so no change other than installation?
[04:03] <ogra> and schooltool is on the Cd now...
[04:04] <ogra> i'm working to get modle fixed by the end of the week
[04:04] <ogra> moodle even
[04:04] <rickfitz> I was about to ask about moodle.
[04:04] <ogra> thn there will only be installer and bugfix changes
[04:04] <ogra> then even
[04:05] <ogra> and probably doc additions..
[04:06] <rickfitz> OK. I'll wait a while and save bandwidth.
[04:06] <rickfitz> I mean to take a look at documentation and hopefully contribute. Just a matter of time...
[04:07] <ogra> rickfitz, use rsync :)
[04:07] <ogra> no need to waste bandwith
[04:09] <rickfitz> Excuse my ignorance: don't know much about rsync. I'll look into it.
[04:09] <DerRobin> ogra why don't you have any channel services in here?
[04:09] <ogra> why would i need them ?
[04:10] <ogra> we have a logbot that keeps the channel open and logged, no need for anything else
[04:10] <DerRobin> well i love freenode because it's not spammed like quakenet or so one, but if there are any kind of spammers what would you do?
[04:12] <ogra> rickfitz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GettingUbuntu
[04:13] <ogra> rickfitz, there are some hints about rsyncing... make sure to run the command in the dir your last iso is stored
[04:13] <rickfitz> Thanks :-)
[04:13] <ogra> it will get updated to the latest then :)
[04:16] <ogra> rickfitz, you need to set the ur accordingly, else you get a ubuntu image :)
[04:16] <ogra> url even
[04:16] <rickfitz> Thx again
[04:20] <EricV> Hello ! cans i ask you some help to set up edubuntu ?
[04:21] <ogra> sure
[04:21] <EricV> my machine is a vmware gsx server powered by an amd64 (but i'm trying the i386 version)
[04:22] <ogra> hmm, vmware ? 
[04:22] <EricV> yes
[04:22] <EricV> and i have pb to format my HD
[04:22] <EricV> (virtual HD of 4Gb)
[04:22] <ogra> i have no experience at all with vmware, all i know is that it had some weird issues with kernel interaction
[04:23] <ogra> hwo do you use thin clinets with vmware i wonder ...
[04:23] <EricV> you can have some pb with vmware, mainly because it emulates a SCSI HD
[04:25] <ogra> EricV, i think thats rather a question for ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devel, the installer is identical to ubuntu xcept the IP and LTSP stuff...
[04:25] <EricV> ok, i will !
[04:25] <ogra> so the partitioning should work the same as in ubuntu
[04:25] <ogra> probably a look in bugzilla will show something up ...
[04:27] <EricV> do u speak french ?
[04:27] <EricV> that's to show you a screen capture...
[04:29] <ogra> EricV, just a little...
[04:35] <jsgotangco> hi all
[04:36] <EricV> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=vmware&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=vmware&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=vmware&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=vmware
[04:36] <EricV> one guy says that "Hoary array 6 installer doesn't detect emulated hard disk..."... is that the same bug ?
[04:44] <ogra> might be, follow up on it to find out ;)
[04:47] <EricV> ok...
[04:48] <EricV> can i ask you another question: does it work about the language-packs as the regular 5.10 ?
[04:49] <ogra> yup
[04:49] <ogra> they are the same...
[04:49] <ogra> but only -en is on the CD due to space issues, as stated in the meeting before
[04:50] <EricV> do you think that you will make additionnal Cds with other popular languages ?
[04:51] <EricV> i will maybe setup edubuntu in a place without internet (africa...) 
[04:52] <ogra> i will stuff up the remaining space with languages on the arches that i mentioned in the meeting...
[04:52] <ogra> and we were planning a DVD with all langs, but i cant promise that will happen
[04:56] <EricV> where can i find the list of dependancies of a package for edubuntu ? we will have another local web server ! we can put all those packages on it, and add this server on the apt sources.list
[04:58] <ogra> you could set up a mirror... but you 'll need a internet connection
[05:01] <EricV> what we thought for updating the clients under linux was to send by mail (not email) a CD-Rom. They will insert it, and be mount in a folder like /var/www/edubuntu-pack
[05:02] <EricV> after that an ap-get on all the local machines, and their software will be updated
[05:02] <ogra> that will work out of the box between releases anyway (it already does) 
[05:24] <jsgotangco> mmm edubuntu in ubz looks exiciting...
[05:25] <EricV> 'bye
[05:25] <jsgotangco> too bad..
[05:27] <highvoltage> too bad?
[05:27] <jsgotangco> too bad i can't com
[05:27] <jsgotangco> e
[05:27] <highvoltage> ah. we can have our own one in #edubuntu :)
[05:27] <jsgotangco> heh of course
[05:28] <jsgotangco> hmm i didnt know there was a meeting i was at linux world
[05:28] <highvoltage> there was a meeting?
[05:28] <jsgotangco> MeetingRecords was updated 2 hours ago by JaneW
[05:28] <ogra> highvoltage, as every wednesday :)
[05:29] <ogra> (except the one we moved to friday intentionally indeed :) )
[05:29] <jsgotangco> i actually did my presentation in edubuntu workstation
[05:29] <ogra> yeah
[05:29] <jsgotangco> gcompris sound seems a hit and miss affair for me
[05:30] <ogra> jsgotangco, do you have the gcompris-sound package installed ? 
[05:30] <jsgotangco> yes
[05:31] <jsgotangco> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[05:31] <jsgotangco> don't know whats causing it
[05:31] <ogra> strange... but  i'll have to look into gcompris anywaybefore release... 
[05:31] <highvoltage> ah, right. i didn't realise it was set at wednesdays, i was out at the time anyway.
[05:31] <ogra> its the last point on my list...
[05:31] <highvoltage> JaneW: ping
[05:31] <jsgotangco> ogra does it use alsa or oss?
[05:31] <ogra> esd
[05:32] <JaneW> highvoltage: pong (but I only have 2 mins)
[05:32] <ogra> at least it should use esd
[05:32] <jsgotangco> hrmmm do we install esd by default?
[05:32] <ogra> yup
[05:32] <JaneW> taking the kids for pizza 2 mins ago...
[05:32] <JaneW> highvoltage: I WILL be in tomorrow though - my bag is half packed and I closed about 25 windows already in pre to shut down ;)
[05:33] <JaneW> highvoltage: ?
[05:33] <highvoltage> JaneW: cu tomorrow then :)
[05:34] <JaneW> highvoltage: sure?
[05:34] <highvoltage> yes, nothing urgent.
[05:34] <JaneW> cool thanks
[05:34] <jsgotangco> JaneW: sorry i was driving when you guys had a meeting
[05:34] <JaneW> BYE :)
[05:34] <jsgotangco> (been raining hard lately)
[05:34] <JaneW> np... 
[05:34] <highvoltage> bye :)
[05:34] <JaneW> last touch!
[05:35] <jsgotangco> where is she going?
 taking the kids for pizza 2 mins ago...
[05:36] <jsgotangco> oh i thought that ended already...
[05:37] <ogra> nope, it started 4 mins late ;)
[05:38] <jsgotangco> ogra: please reivew http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/AboutEdubuntu if you have time so that i can move this back to docbook already
[05:38] <jsgotangco> as well as the other stuff in EdubuntuDocumentation
[05:38] <ogra> jsgotangco, any additions since yesterday ?
[05:38] <jsgotangco> it seems the wiki is the best route to open up the docs
[05:38] <jsgotangco> none
[05:38] <jsgotangco> just doing changes to cookbook atm
[05:38] <ogra> i added it yesterday to the mozilla homepgae in the artwork package ;) 
[05:39] <jsgotangco> and release notes
[05:39] <jsgotangco> oohhhhh
[05:39] <ogra> its already in... notify me if changes occur...
[05:39] <jsgotangco> so does the core components fit?
[05:40] <ogra> moodle still has bugs and misses on the CD, i think i'll have it done and included by the weekend
[05:40] <ogra> the rest is perfect, many thanks
[05:40] <jsgotangco> k i'll start moving to xml then for yelp
[05:41] <ogra> yup
[05:41] <jsgotangco> ill continue uploading the other cookbook sections later when i wake up
[05:57] <jsgotangco> good night, i have another demo tommorow
[05:57] <ogra> night jsgotangco good luck
[05:58] <jsgotangco> ogra: congrats btw, people loved it
[05:58] <ogra> great :)
[05:58] <jsgotangco> i think the edubuntu girl wallpaper had impact too
[05:58] <ogra> heh
[06:25] <highvoltage> ogra: how did the edubuntu wiki end up with that licence?
[06:25] <highvoltage> i think jane misunderstood elmo
[06:26] <ogra> myabe..