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| Riddell | golly | 12:50 |
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| Riddell | who was it that wanted to make 3.5 packages? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | Verwilst | 12:59 |
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| pef | hello | 09:03 |
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| Riddell | hello pef | 11:18 |
| Riddell | hello froud | 11:18 |
| pef | Riddell: hello :) | 11:19 |
| froud | Riddell: HI | 11:47 |
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| Riddell | dapper drake | 01:25 |
| Riddell | so there you go :) | 01:25 |
| tvo | o_O KubuntuBreezyPLusOneGoals-->KubuntuDapperGoals:) | 01:41 |
| === Riddell awaits volunteers for making 3.5 packages | ||
| tvo | i could try but i doubt i'm enough experienced packager;) and i don't have a compilefarm for quick testing:( | 02:02 |
| tvo | wasn't verwilst already doing this? | 02:02 |
| Riddell | havn't seen verwilst for a few days | 02:03 |
| Riddell | and the only e-mail address I can find for him is bouncing | 02:03 |
| === tvo tries to figure out how to write katapult plugin | ||
| Riddell | what changes have there been to katapult since the version that's currently in kubuntu? | 02:11 |
| === tvo checks | ||
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| tvo | mostly buildsys changes | 02:19 |
| tvo | docs, and a small bit of code | 02:19 |
| tvo | * added the ability to deactivate the systray-icon | 02:21 |
| tvo | * created shortcut for the context-menu (ctrl+c) | 02:21 |
| tvo | * added us to the authors | 02:21 |
| tvo | * katapult.cpp: made katapult not to crash if your query can not be found | 02:21 |
| tvo | ^^ that's everything in Changelog | 02:21 |
| Riddell | tvo: fancy makin\g a katapult package using tyhe current ubuntu one with a branch_changes patch and with systray off by default? | 02:43 |
| tvo | you mean same .orig and all enhancements in .diff ? | 02:45 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:46 |
| Riddell | in debian/patches | 02:46 |
| tvo | ok, will try (packaging skillz++) | 02:47 |
| === tvo gives up the katapult plugin for a while because automake sux0rz :) | ||
| === tvo should change it to scons/bksys :) | ||
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| JRe | Riddell: I think i'll help you on 3.5 packages | 04:12 |
| JRe | Riddell: tonight I have my new computer | 04:12 |
| === hunger is willing to test that;-) | ||
| JRe | Riddell: and I have builded KDE many times, since I am involved in the development of some KDE parts | 04:13 |
| Riddell | I'm uploading kdelibs and kdebase packages | 04:18 |
| Riddell | taking a long time to upload | 04:19 |
| hunger | Will 3.5 make it into breezy? | 04:19 |
| Riddell | then people can start making other packages | 04:19 |
| Riddell | huno | 04:19 |
| Riddell | hunger: no | 04:19 |
| hunger | Riddell: So where can I grab the packages to test? | 04:20 |
| Riddell | freshly uploaded: deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1/ breezy main | 04:21 |
| allee | Riddel: No consensus yet to use pkg-kde/branch/ubuntu-3.5 (or so)? | 04:27 |
| Riddell | allee: I'd like to but these packages have been made in such a hurry I'm not sure it's a good diea to commit them | 04:33 |
| allee | Riddell: well, work would be done on a branch. Nothing is perfect can one can polish them later, but of course it's your choice | 04:39 |
| hunger | Riddell: I think the Package file is corrupt (or not bzip2ed). | 04:42 |
| hunger | Riddell: My bat-file generator is not really intelligent, so maybe this is a non-issue for anyone with a internet connection on their ubuntu box;-) | 04:43 |
| hunger | Hmmm... it is a gz file... need to fix my bat-file generator:-( | 04:53 |
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| Riddell | hunger: working fine for me here | 04:56 |
| hunger | Riddell: It is a .gz file... that caused some havok for me. | 04:57 |
| hunger | Riddell: It should be fine now... | 04:57 |
| Riddell | hunger: why would .gz cause you havok? | 04:57 |
| hunger | Riddell: My problem is that I use apt-get to generate DOS .bat files to download all the apt-get stuff for me. | 04:57 |
| hunger | RiddellOnly a windows maschine has network here... and I may not changhe that... so I had to hack together some scripts.. and those assumed the Releases files to be bzip2ed. | 04:58 |
| hunger | Riddell: Oh, actually apt-get tries to grab Packages.bz2 | 05:01 |
| hunger | Riddell: My scripts are OK, it is apt that is misguided (better: Using bz2 by default). | 05:02 |
| === Riddell makes bz2 | ||
| Riddell | hunger: try now | 05:03 |
| hunger | Riddell: I owe you a drink! | 05:03 |
| hunger | Riddell: Well, I think I owe you several considering the quality of the debs you are generating for me and others! | 05:04 |
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| Riddell | these debs arn't very high quality, be warned :) | 05:05 |
| hunger | Riddell: No worries: I'll blame any bugs I find on the KDE developers:-) | 05:06 |
| Riddell | yeah, it's all beta :) | 05:09 |
| hunger | Riddell: Works fine now! | 05:10 |
| hunger | Riddell: Lets find out how long the network guys will take to find out that I am downloading stuff to a workstation that can not access the net ;-) | 05:12 |
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| hunger | Riddell: Seems to work... | 05:28 |
| hunger | Riddell: The bookmark search still sucks:-( | 05:31 |
| hunger | ksysguard applet is still broken. | 05:42 |
| === hunger does not yet see many things that changed in kde 3.5 | ||
| Riddell | ksysguard applet works here | 05:43 |
| hunger | Riddell: It pops up a window asking for a way to contact its daemon here. | 05:44 |
| Riddell | sounds like a broken ksysguiardd | 05:44 |
| hunger | Riddell: I already removed everything called *sysguard* in ~/.kde. Didn't help. | 05:44 |
| Riddell | does ksysguard proper work? | 05:45 |
| hunger | Riddell: The "big" app works fine. | 05:46 |
| hunger | Riddell: Automounting of USB disks works again! | 05:48 |
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| hunger | Riddell: The ksysguard issue is a local misconfiguration... works fine if I remove my .kde | 06:07 |
| hunger | Riddell: I just wonder why that stupid think keeps breaking all every couple of month. | 06:07 |
| OculusAquilae | JRe: You are the maintainer of katapult in kubuntu, right? | 06:34 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages | 06:57 |
| Riddell | go package! | 06:57 |
| Riddell | each package is worth 4 hugs in the new Kubuntu Partner Program | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | \o/ | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | can I have advance? ;p | 06:58 |
| Tm_T | .. | 06:58 |
| Riddell | no advances I'm afraid | 06:58 |
| Tm_T | KDE! | 06:58 |
| Tm_T | I'm slow... | 06:58 |
| allee | Riddell: FWIW: tar's z option does not use gzip --best | 06:58 |
| Tm_T | \o/ (o/ \o) | 06:58 |
| Riddell | allee: hmm, that's a pain | 06:59 |
| allee | afair there a gzip env var | 06:59 |
| Tm_T | maybe I can do few packages with this windows pc | 07:03 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: that would be impressive | 07:03 |
| Tm_T | =) | 07:04 |
| Tm_T | damn! | 07:05 |
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| tvo | oops erased my todo list :s | 07:06 |
| Tm_T | use mine: 1) wait internet connection | 07:07 |
| Tm_T | 2) wait more | 07:07 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: you are Bastian Holst yes? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | tvo: make 3.5 beta packages! :) | 07:09 |
| tvo | haha :) | 07:09 |
| tvo | i probably won't forget development stuff though - hope i don't forget some boring real life things which were on it :) | 07:10 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: yes | 07:11 |
| Riddell | thought so | 07:11 |
| allee | Riddel: btw channel title adept is at beta 2 | 07:12 |
| Riddell | allee: even better than that it's dependencies have just passed NEW so it should be installable in an hour | 07:13 |
| allee | great news! | 07:13 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || apt-get install adept guidance (soon) || Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | ||
| tvo | Riddell: i don't think it makes sense to turn the katapult icon off by default: there's no easy way to turn it back on (not yet) | 07:29 |
| Riddell | tvo: there's minimal reason to turn it on | 07:31 |
| Riddell | and excessive systray icons are evil | 07:31 |
| tvo | true, well ok then, i'll turn it off by default (if i figure out how) | 07:31 |
| Riddell | tvo: the patch is in there | 07:33 |
| Riddell | tvo: I think OculusAquilae is already looking it up | 07:33 |
| Riddell | oh right, off by default, yeah | 07:33 |
| tvo | in where? | 07:33 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: it isn't really easy to turn it on again | 07:33 |
| tvo | no, the "enter config from main screen" is still in TODO :) | 07:34 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: ok, I forgot to delete this line :-) | 07:34 |
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| tvo | OculusAquilae: huh, so it is possible to enter the config from the main screen? | 07:36 |
| tvo | if you svn commit then I'll svn co again | 07:36 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: without a button, with a Shortcut | 07:43 |
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| OculusAquilae | tvo: it is possible, but not very easy | 07:45 |
| tvo | so how do you do it? | 07:50 |
| froud | Riddell: ping | 07:58 |
| Riddell | froud: hi | 07:59 |
| froud | did you have a peak at irc logs yester | 07:59 |
| Riddell | had a quick look at scrollback yes | 07:59 |
| froud | do you think it is worth moving kubuntu docs to a place of greater love | 08:00 |
| Riddell | froud: what's wrong with them as they are? | 08:00 |
| froud | and where would that place be | 08:00 |
| froud | I just feel like they get no attention because of the GNOME/Ubuntu shadow | 08:01 |
| froud | I cant do kubuntu all alone, but where they are we are not getting enough contributors | 08:01 |
| Riddell | will moving them elsewhere get any more contributors? | 08:01 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: what? | 08:01 |
| tvo | OculusAquilae: what's the shortcut? | 08:02 |
| OculusAquilae | CTRL+C (i know, bad shortcut :-)) | 08:02 |
| froud | and recently had kubuntu stripped from one of the profiles docs because not caring waht appens to kubuntu | 08:02 |
| froud | Dunno, if the place is right I think we might get more people | 08:03 |
| tvo | OculusAquilae: haha :) thx | 08:03 |
| Riddell | sorry, need to go out | 08:03 |
| froud | Riddell: you see when people gather at ubuntu-doc they gather for ubuntu/gnome | 08:03 |
| froud | Riddell: ok | 08:04 |
| Riddell | froud: yeah, kubuntu docs people should gather here more and boss me about | 08:04 |
| froud | ha ha | 08:04 |
| froud | at present that would just be me | 08:04 |
| Riddell | poke me into proofreading and reviewing and stuff | 08:04 |
| Riddell | jjesse? | 08:05 |
| froud | Riddell: first people must write something, then we can prod you | 08:05 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: Riddell made the suggestion of a button in the main-surface, but Mez didn't wan't to have this :-) | 08:05 |
| froud | jjesse is making small changes, once is a blue moon | 08:05 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo: because it's destroying the look | 08:06 |
| Riddell | froud: is there an updated package that I can upload? | 08:06 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: not a button button, just a small arrow you can click on to bring up the menu | 08:06 |
| froud | I will post here when there is | 08:06 |
| froud | Riddell: OK man, go out, catch this later. | 08:06 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: hm, i think that could be nice (if good made) | 08:07 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: could show the context menu too | 08:08 |
| allee | froud, Riddell: IMVHO we should somehow try to the the kde profile back, before thinking about move | 09:15 |
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| allee | s/the the/get the/ | 09:16 |
| froud | allee: can I, will I, when? Already have :-) | 09:17 |
| allee | froud: was more for Riddell | 09:17 |
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