=== froud [n=froud@ndn-165-128-88.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:50] golly [12:50] who was it that wanted to make 3.5 packages? [12:59] Verwilst === squido [n=john@office4.tmcs.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["See] === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:03] hello === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === froud [n=froud@ndn-165-128-88.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _froud_ [n=froud@ndn-165-128-88.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _froud_ is now known as froud [11:18] hello pef [11:18] hello froud [11:19] Riddell: hello :) [11:47] Riddell: HI === \sh is now known as \sh_away === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:25] dapper drake [01:25] so there you go :) [01:41] o_O KubuntuBreezyPLusOneGoals-->KubuntuDapperGoals:) === Riddell awaits volunteers for making 3.5 packages [02:02] i could try but i doubt i'm enough experienced packager;) and i don't have a compilefarm for quick testing:( [02:02] wasn't verwilst already doing this? [02:03] havn't seen verwilst for a few days [02:03] and the only e-mail address I can find for him is bouncing === tvo tries to figure out how to write katapult plugin [02:11] what changes have there been to katapult since the version that's currently in kubuntu? === tvo checks === \sh_away is now known as \sh [02:19] mostly buildsys changes [02:19] docs, and a small bit of code [02:21] * added the ability to deactivate the systray-icon [02:21] * created shortcut for the context-menu (ctrl+c) [02:21] * added us to the authors [02:21] * katapult.cpp: made katapult not to crash if your query can not be found [02:21] ^^ that's everything in Changelog [02:43] tvo: fancy makin\g a katapult package using tyhe current ubuntu one with a branch_changes patch and with systray off by default? [02:45] you mean same .orig and all enhancements in .diff ? [02:46] yes [02:46] in debian/patches [02:47] ok, will try (packaging skillz++) === tvo gives up the katapult plugin for a while because automake sux0rz :) === tvo should change it to scons/bksys :) === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0A8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] Riddell: I think i'll help you on 3.5 packages [04:12] Riddell: tonight I have my new computer === hunger is willing to test that;-) [04:13] Riddell: and I have builded KDE many times, since I am involved in the development of some KDE parts [04:18] I'm uploading kdelibs and kdebase packages [04:19] taking a long time to upload [04:19] Will 3.5 make it into breezy? [04:19] then people can start making other packages [04:19] hu no [04:19] hunger: no [04:20] Riddell: So where can I grab the packages to test? [04:21] freshly uploaded: deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1/ breezy main [04:27] Riddel: No consensus yet to use pkg-kde/branch/ubuntu-3.5 (or so)? [04:33] allee: I'd like to but these packages have been made in such a hurry I'm not sure it's a good diea to commit them [04:39] Riddell: well, work would be done on a branch. Nothing is perfect can one can polish them later, but of course it's your choice [04:42] Riddell: I think the Package file is corrupt (or not bzip2ed). [04:43] Riddell: My bat-file generator is not really intelligent, so maybe this is a non-issue for anyone with a internet connection on their ubuntu box;-) [04:53] Hmmm... it is a gz file... need to fix my bat-file generator:-( === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [04:56] hunger: working fine for me here [04:57] Riddell: It is a .gz file... that caused some havok for me. [04:57] Riddell: It should be fine now... [04:57] hunger: why would .gz cause you havok? [04:57] Riddell: My problem is that I use apt-get to generate DOS .bat files to download all the apt-get stuff for me. [04:58] RiddellOnly a windows maschine has network here... and I may not changhe that... so I had to hack together some scripts.. and those assumed the Releases files to be bzip2ed. [05:01] Riddell: Oh, actually apt-get tries to grab Packages.bz2 [05:02] Riddell: My scripts are OK, it is apt that is misguided (better: Using bz2 by default). === Riddell makes bz2 [05:03] hunger: try now [05:03] Riddell: I owe you a drink! [05:04] Riddell: Well, I think I owe you several considering the quality of the debs you are generating for me and others! === \sh is now known as \sh_away [05:05] these debs arn't very high quality, be warned :) [05:06] Riddell: No worries: I'll blame any bugs I find on the KDE developers:-) [05:09] yeah, it's all beta :) [05:10] Riddell: Works fine now! [05:12] Riddell: Lets find out how long the network guys will take to find out that I am downloading stuff to a workstation that can not access the net ;-) === \sh_away is now known as \sh [05:28] Riddell: Seems to work... [05:31] Riddell: The bookmark search still sucks:-( [05:42] ksysguard applet is still broken. === hunger does not yet see many things that changed in kde 3.5 [05:43] ksysguard applet works here [05:44] Riddell: It pops up a window asking for a way to contact its daemon here. [05:44] sounds like a broken ksysguiardd [05:44] Riddell: I already removed everything called *sysguard* in ~/.kde. Didn't help. [05:45] does ksysguard proper work? [05:46] Riddell: The "big" app works fine. [05:48] Riddell: Automounting of USB disks works again! === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D282C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] Riddell: The ksysguard issue is a local misconfiguration... works fine if I remove my .kde [06:07] Riddell: I just wonder why that stupid think keeps breaking all every couple of month. [06:34] JRe: You are the maintainer of katapult in kubuntu, right? [06:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages [06:57] go package! [06:57] each package is worth 4 hugs in the new Kubuntu Partner Program [06:57] \o/ [06:58] can I have advance? ;p [06:58] .. [06:58] no advances I'm afraid [06:58] KDE! [06:58] I'm slow... [06:58] Riddell: FWIW: tar's z option does not use gzip --best [06:58] \o/ (o/ \o) [06:59] allee: hmm, that's a pain [06:59] afair there a gzip env var [07:03] maybe I can do few packages with this windows pc [07:03] Tm_T: that would be impressive [07:04] =) [07:05] damn! === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:06] oops erased my todo list :s [07:07] use mine: 1) wait internet connection [07:07] 2) wait more [07:08] OculusAquilae: you are Bastian Holst yes? [07:09] tvo: make 3.5 beta packages! :) [07:09] haha :) [07:10] i probably won't forget development stuff though - hope i don't forget some boring real life things which were on it :) [07:11] Riddell: yes [07:11] thought so [07:12] Riddel: btw channel title adept is at beta 2 [07:13] allee: even better than that it's dependencies have just passed NEW so it should be installable in an hour [07:13] great news! === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || apt-get install adept guidance (soon) || Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu [07:29] Riddell: i don't think it makes sense to turn the katapult icon off by default: there's no easy way to turn it back on (not yet) [07:31] tvo: there's minimal reason to turn it on [07:31] and excessive systray icons are evil [07:31] true, well ok then, i'll turn it off by default (if i figure out how) [07:33] tvo: the patch is in there [07:33] tvo: I think OculusAquilae is already looking it up [07:33] oh right, off by default, yeah [07:33] in where? [07:33] tvo: it isn't really easy to turn it on again [07:34] no, the "enter config from main screen" is still in TODO :) [07:34] tvo: ok, I forgot to delete this line :-) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [07:36] OculusAquilae: huh, so it is possible to enter the config from the main screen? [07:36] if you svn commit then I'll svn co again [07:43] tvo: without a button, with a Shortcut === froud [n=froud@ndn-165-138-62.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] tvo: it is possible, but not very easy [07:50] so how do you do it? [07:58] Riddell: ping [07:59] froud: hi [07:59] did you have a peak at irc logs yester [07:59] had a quick look at scrollback yes [08:00] do you think it is worth moving kubuntu docs to a place of greater love [08:00] froud: what's wrong with them as they are? [08:00] and where would that place be [08:01] I just feel like they get no attention because of the GNOME/Ubuntu shadow [08:01] I cant do kubuntu all alone, but where they are we are not getting enough contributors [08:01] will moving them elsewhere get any more contributors? [08:01] tvo: what? [08:02] OculusAquilae: what's the shortcut? [08:02] CTRL+C (i know, bad shortcut :-)) [08:02] and recently had kubuntu stripped from one of the profiles docs because not caring waht appens to kubuntu [08:03] Dunno, if the place is right I think we might get more people [08:03] OculusAquilae: haha :) thx [08:03] sorry, need to go out [08:03] Riddell: you see when people gather at ubuntu-doc they gather for ubuntu/gnome [08:04] Riddell: ok [08:04] froud: yeah, kubuntu docs people should gather here more and boss me about [08:04] ha ha [08:04] at present that would just be me [08:04] poke me into proofreading and reviewing and stuff [08:05] jjesse? [08:05] Riddell: first people must write something, then we can prod you [08:05] tvo: Riddell made the suggestion of a button in the main-surface, but Mez didn't wan't to have this :-) [08:05] jjesse is making small changes, once is a blue moon [08:06] tvo: because it's destroying the look [08:06] froud: is there an updated package that I can upload? [08:06] OculusAquilae: not a button button, just a small arrow you can click on to bring up the menu [08:06] I will post here when there is [08:06] Riddell: OK man, go out, catch this later. [08:07] Riddell: hm, i think that could be nice (if good made) [08:08] Riddell: could show the context menu too [09:15] froud, Riddell: IMVHO we should somehow try to the the kde profile back, before thinking about move === CWiesen [n=chris@p50884639.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] s/the the/get the/ [09:17] allee: can I, will I, when? Already have :-) [09:17] froud: was more for Riddell === froud contemplates the move === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CWiesen [n=chris@p50884639.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === hunger [n=hunger@p54A601D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel