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| PaloDeQueso | How do I use a plugin I installed for konqueror? | 12:16 |
| PaloDeQueso | a metabar plugin. | 12:16 |
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| nick01 | hi; if I install kubuntu is there somebody that can help me configure lirc ? I wanna use that feature in the kde control center to control apps with my tv tuner remote | 12:19 |
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| douglas | Does anyone know how to utilize a konqueror plugin I installed as a plugin? | 12:20 |
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| _stefan | hello again | 12:28 |
| _stefan | I solved the gpg | 12:29 |
| _stefan | problem | 12:29 |
| nalioth | _stefan: what was it? | 12:29 |
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| _stefan | I just forgott to import secret keys in kgpg | 12:29 |
| nalioth | ok | 12:29 |
| _stefan | ohhh man.. | 12:29 |
| _stefan | now all runs well | 12:30 |
| _stefan | I were a good to have a notice in that moment | 12:30 |
| _stefan | So you can "earn" time | 12:30 |
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| _stefan | sorry in the moment I have not a better word | 12:31 |
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| _stefan | I wish I could develop | 12:35 |
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| nalioth | _stefan: why can't you ? | 12:36 |
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| _stefan | I need a teacher I think | 12:50 |
| _stefan | But have no money for study development | 12:51 |
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| nalioth | _stefan: there are plenty of guides online | 12:51 |
| _stefan | ahh do have a good site for beginners? | 12:52 |
| _stefan | C/C++ | 12:52 |
| nalioth | i'd ask uncle google, personally or in #ubuntu-offtopic | 12:53 |
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| _stefan | okaay | 12:53 |
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| kbob717 | how do i get kubuntu? | 12:55 |
| nalioth | kbob717: use synaptic to install "kubuntu-desktop" | 12:56 |
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| kbob717 | koo | 12:56 |
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| quilon | Anyone know of a fix to stop gamin_server eating up my cpu resources ? | 12:58 |
| nalioth | quilon: kill it? | 12:58 |
| quilon | it re-starts after the kill | 12:59 |
| nalioth | quilon: close nautilus or konqueror | 12:59 |
| quilon | k tries | 01:00 |
| quilon | nalioth: its still there | 01:01 |
| nalioth | quilon: unfortunately, gam_server is a necessary part of the system | 01:02 |
| nalioth | quilon: it is 'indexing' (smoething like that) your stuff | 01:02 |
| quilon | nalioth and unfortunately lots of people having same problem with no soultion found after more than 5 hours of googling | 01:03 |
| nalioth | quilon: yes, even i'm afflicted with it | 01:05 |
| quilon | nalioth: I would think nobody would want an indexing system if its taking more than 70% of CPU | 01:05 |
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| quilon | lol there you go | 01:05 |
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| nalioth | quilon: it should quit once it finds all the new files (mine does) | 01:08 |
| peanut | i alredy have a regular ubuntu installed on my machene however i dont have an internet connection todo apt-get can i download the packages needed to install kubuntu on it without having to reinstall the wholesystem? | 01:09 |
| nalioth | peanut: i'm afraid you'd need more dvd-r than currently exists | 01:10 |
| nalioth | peanut: you you could d/l a kubuntu disc | 01:10 |
| peanut | ? | 01:11 |
| peanut | what | 01:11 |
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| nalioth | peanut: but i'd wait until breezy kubuntu is official | 01:11 |
| peanut | im sort ofa newby | 01:11 |
| peanut | what do you mean by d/l | 01:12 |
| peanut | i actually want it on a horry machine | 01:12 |
| nalioth | peanut: you can download a kubuntu install cd and add it from that | 01:15 |
| peanut | nalioth:how? | 01:15 |
| nalioth | peanut: once you get the cd, put it in your machine and open a terminal | 01:17 |
| nalioth | peanut: at that time, type "sudo apt-cdrom" and follow the directions | 01:17 |
| peanut | ok thanks | 01:18 |
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| peanut | nalioth:sorry i closed the window by accedent what did you say | 01:22 |
| nalioth | peanut: after you run the 'apt-cdrom', run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" | 01:23 |
| nalioth | peanut: you should have kubuntu | 01:23 |
| nalioth | peanut: if i were you, i'd wait for the breezy kubuntu release (oct 13) | 01:23 |
| peanut | ok thanks | 01:23 |
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| peanut | after i runapt-cdrom should i run add | 01:27 |
| peanut | nalioth | 01:29 |
| nalioth | peanut: "sudo apt-cdrom add" | 01:29 |
| nalioth | follow the instructions | 01:29 |
| peanut | ok | 01:29 |
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| ManLord | Operation not possible with broken packages. | 01:54 |
| ManLord | Please fix them first. | 01:54 |
| ManLord | i'm trying to upgrade xlibmesa-gl from 6.8.2-10 to 6.8.2-10.1, bur when I select upgrade and then commit changes then nothing gets downloaded. And because of that I can't "upgrade all packages" gets this error: | 01:54 |
| ManLord | read above... | 01:54 |
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| hussam | ManLord: try it from command line. do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 02:00 |
| ManLord | xlibmesa-gl-dev: Depends: xlibmesa-gl (= 6.8.2-10.1) but 6.8.2-10 is installed | 02:02 |
| hussam | ManLord: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:03 |
| ManLord | hussam: same problem | 02:04 |
| ManLord | it suggests with an -f flag | 02:04 |
| nalioth | ManLord: try "apt-get -f install" | 02:04 |
| hussam | apt-get install xlibmesa-gl | 02:04 |
| ManLord | Pakker ut erstatningen xlibmesa-gl ... | 02:05 |
| ManLord | dpkg: Feil ved behandling av /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb (--unpack): | 02:05 |
| ManLord | prver skrive over /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, som ogs finnes i pakken fglrx-6-8-0 | 02:05 |
| ManLord | dpkg-deb: underprosessen paste drept med signal (Rret ble brutt) | 02:05 |
| ManLord | Det oppsto feil ved behandling av: | 02:05 |
| ManLord | /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb | 02:05 |
| ManLord | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 02:05 |
| ManLord | some norwegian here... | 02:05 |
| ManLord | trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, that also is in the package fglrx-6-8-0 | 02:06 |
| nalioth | ManLord: it looks like your xlibmesa pkg is incorrect | 02:06 |
| nalioth | failed to unpack | 02:06 |
| ManLord | nalioth.. so how to fix? | 02:07 |
| nalioth | ManLord: download it again | 02:07 |
| ManLord | how exactly? | 02:08 |
| nalioth | ManLord: hang on a minute | 02:09 |
| nalioth | ManLord: "man apt-get" can provide some info while i look | 02:09 |
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| nalioth | ManLord: sudo apt-get -d xlibmesa-gl | 02:10 |
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| ManLord | sudo apt-get install(?) -d xlibmesa-gl | 02:11 |
| nalioth | ManLord: sounds good | 02:11 |
| ManLord | nalioth: well i tried that, then what? sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl? | 02:12 |
| ManLord | nalioth: without -d | 02:12 |
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| nalioth | ManLord: yes, try it | 02:12 |
| ManLord | this happens: | 02:14 |
| ManLord | dpkg: Error while unpacking /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb (--unpack): | 02:14 |
| ManLord | trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, tat also exist in the package fglrx-6-8-0 | 02:14 |
| ManLord | nalioth: had to translate the norwegian... | 02:14 |
| nalioth | ManLord: you have a choice here | 02:15 |
| nalioth | ManLord: there is a "force" option available, should you choose to take it | 02:15 |
| ManLord | nalioth: I tried: sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl -f | 02:18 |
| ManLord | same error | 02:18 |
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| nalioth | ManLord: you need this "dpkg --help" read about force options | 02:20 |
| nalioth | ManLord: your system is warning you, btw | 02:20 |
| koalah | i have no sound in gnome | 02:20 |
| ManLord | nalioth: I also tried sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl | 02:20 |
| ManLord | same prob | 02:21 |
| nalioth | ManLord: if you HAVE to have it, you can use dpkg to force installation | 02:22 |
| ManLord | it's just that it's restricting me from doing other actions with apt-get... | 02:23 |
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| |maddox| | hi | 02:26 |
| |maddox| | hi hussam, how was the upgrade to breezy? | 02:27 |
| ManLord | niloth: I did: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb | 02:28 |
| hussam | I haven't gone through with it yet. but I did apt-get -d dist-upgrade so the packages are downloaded | 02:28 |
| ManLord | niloth: that solved it... hopefully not on the cost of anything else :) | 02:28 |
| ManLord | niloth: because I had like 57 packages not fully installed, but now i could... | 02:29 |
| nalioth | ManLord: the better option would have been --force-overwrite | 02:29 |
| nalioth | ManLord: since that was the error it was giving you | 02:29 |
| ManLord | niloth: ok, big problem? | 02:29 |
| hussam | |maddox|: should I go for it? | 02:30 |
| nalioth | ManLord: dont know, but precision is better than --all | 02:30 |
| |maddox| | hussam you?re half way hehe | 02:30 |
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| ManLord | niloth: you're right... well too late now... | 02:31 |
| |maddox| | hussam: i would go for it | 02:31 |
| ManLord | :) | 02:31 |
| hussam | |maddox|: all the packages are downloaded. But I heard some people are having an error: Initializing modules | 02:31 |
| ManLord | niloth: Thanks for the help! Gotta go! :) | 02:32 |
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| hussam | |maddox|: did you get an "initializing modules" error? | 02:33 |
| |maddox| | hussam: could be.... i got luck, everythink is runninge smooth here | 02:33 |
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| |maddox| | nopes | 02:33 |
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| hussam | |maddox|: I doing some work. I'll be done in like 10 minutes. After that, I'll do the upgrade | 02:42 |
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| blackflag | hello all | 02:57 |
| blackflag | can someone tell me to get an own channel? | 02:57 |
| blackflag | is that expensive? | 02:58 |
| hussam | blackflag: costs like 10 million dollars a day. | 02:58 |
| hussam | blackflag: or just /join #channel name and it will be created | 02:59 |
| hussam | |maddox|: you there? | 03:00 |
| blackflag | ohh so easy?!! cool | 03:00 |
| hussam | |maddox|: I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com ( it won't reslove 82.211.81.151 ) | 03:02 |
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| JeffAMcGee | hussam: Here security.ubuntu.com resolves to 82.211.81.138 | 03:52 |
| hussam | JeffAMcGee: yep thanks for noticing that, I'll replace security.archive.com by 82.211.81.138 in sources.list | 03:53 |
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| yasser | hey im formatting home...but i want opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs back....how do i back them up so I can reuse them? | 04:05 |
| nalioth | yasser: not sure about opera, but look in ~/.gaim for your logs | 04:06 |
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| hussam | nalioth: you there? | 04:59 |
| hussam | nalioth: do you know if this is a good up2date mirror: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/ubuntu/ ? if not, do you know any good one? | 05:01 |
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| nalioth | hussam: stick with official mirrors | 05:04 |
| nalioth | hussam: the other ubuntu mirrors are not as up to date | 05:05 |
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| hussam | nalioth: something's wrong with my network. I can't access security.archive.com 82.211.81.151 times out but 82.211.81.138 works | 05:07 |
| nalioth | hussam: not your network | 05:11 |
| nalioth | hussam: the archive at .151 appears to be having trouble | 05:11 |
| hussam | nalioth: it times out for you as well? | 05:12 |
| nalioth | hussam: it has been reported in here and #ubuntu for a few hours now | 05:13 |
| hussam | oh ok | 05:13 |
| hussam | thanks for that | 05:13 |
| hussam | nalioth: i had 2 people check and it works for them. could it be working only for some people? | 05:19 |
| nalioth | hussam: that is a possibility, the net is a great interconnected place | 05:20 |
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| blake | hi | 06:04 |
| Bambi_BOFH | hi bla | 06:04 |
| Bambi_BOFH | ke | 06:04 |
| blake | i almost named my dog bambi | 06:06 |
| blake | we went with kiwi instead | 06:06 |
| Bambi_BOFH | lol. | 06:06 |
| Bambi_BOFH | its an in joke :D | 06:06 |
| blake | i must not be 'in' | 06:07 |
| Bambi_BOFH | no, only about 3 ppl are | 06:07 |
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| _nick01 | test | 06:57 |
| _nick01 | -nick nick01 | 06:57 |
| _nick01 | there is something wrong with the keyboard+ I just installed kubuntu | 06:58 |
| _nick01 | works now | 06:59 |
| _nick01 | :P | 06:59 |
| nalioth | tests out | 06:59 |
| _nick01 | now I can't set the screen resolution higher than 1024x768 :( | 07:00 |
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| nick01 | can somebody help ? I want 1280x1024 | 07:00 |
| thoreauputic | !fixres | 07:01 |
| ubotu | [fixres] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 07:01 |
| nick01 | I just installed 5.10 preview | 07:02 |
| nick01 | run xorgconfig ? | 07:03 |
| nick01 | now I have a passwword problem ... | 07:05 |
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| nick01 | I wanna install mc and apt-get sais it can't find it ? | 07:15 |
| crimsun | it's in universe. | 07:15 |
| nick01 | so how do I install it ? | 07:16 |
| crimsun | Candidate: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 | 07:16 |
| crimsun | enable the universe repo and install it | 07:16 |
| nick01 | k | 07:16 |
| nick01 | how do I enable that repo in kynaptic ? | 07:17 |
| crimsun | I don't use Kynaptic, sorry | 07:18 |
| nick01 | that's what I found in the menu | 07:18 |
| crimsun | (I use Ubuntu generally) | 07:19 |
| nick01 | k- so how do I enable that repo ? | 07:19 |
| crimsun | you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually | 07:19 |
| nick01 | k | 07:19 |
| crimsun | uncomment the deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe | 07:20 |
| crimsun | line | 07:20 |
| nick01 | done | 07:20 |
| crimsun | then save and sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mc | 07:20 |
| nick01 | why did they disable root by default ? | 07:21 |
| crimsun | it's good practice to use the lowest privilege level necessary by default | 07:21 |
| nick01 | anyway- I enabled it | 07:22 |
| crimsun | additionally, sudo provides an audit trail in the system logs | 07:22 |
| nick01 | crimsun: do u have any experience with lirc ? | 07:25 |
| crimsun | only maintenance-wise, so no | 07:26 |
| nick01 | k tks :| | 07:26 |
| nalioth | what is lirc? | 07:27 |
| kalenedrael | Linux Infrared Remote Control system. | 07:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | or light irc | 07:28 |
| nick01 | kalenedrael: yay- so u know how to make it work ? I compiled it configured it for my tv tuner remote and installed it; but kcontrol still sais lirc is not configured correctly :( | 07:28 |
| kalenedrael | I do not know how to make it work. | 07:28 |
| nalioth | living up to your nick, Kamping_Kaiser ? lol | 07:29 |
| nick01 | k :( | 07:29 |
| kalenedrael | Sorry... | 07:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol nalioth | 07:29 |
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| nick01 | xorgconfig doesn't work | 07:32 |
| nick01 | how do I configure the screen resolution ? | 07:32 |
| nalioth | nick01: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and have fun | 07:33 |
| nick01 | how do I install that xorgconfig ? I hate this config tool | 07:37 |
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| nick01 | testing time | 07:40 |
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| nick01 | how do I install the nvidia drivers ? | 07:48 |
| nick01 | I searched kynaptic and nvidia-common I think it was was already installed - I'm installing all the nvidia packages remaining | 07:49 |
| nick01 | how do I configure it | 07:50 |
| nick01 | ? | 07:50 |
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| nick01 | hmm- it's already installed | 07:54 |
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| blake | hi | 08:20 |
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| WMCoolmon | hey, i'm trying to DVD playback working, but the extra repos on ubuntuguide.org aren't working | 08:35 |
| nalioth | WMCoolmon: dont use ubuntuguide, ask ubotu why | 08:35 |
| nalioth | !tell WMCoolmon about restricted | 08:36 |
| WMCoolmon | the backports URL isn't working either | 08:39 |
| WMCoolmon | "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" is the line i want to add, right? | 08:40 |
| nalioth | WMCoolmon: are you using hoary or breezy? | 08:40 |
| WMCoolmon | hoary | 08:40 |
| WMCoolmon | i tried upgrading ubuntu to breezy and my system bombed | 08:41 |
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| WMCoolmon | hence, i figured i'd try instally hoary kubuntu | 08:42 |
| nalioth | the URL you posted above looks correct | 08:43 |
| nalioth | you can compare with this | 08:43 |
| nalioth | !tell WMCoolmon about sources | 08:43 |
| WMCoolmon | gah | 08:44 |
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| WMCoolmon | !tell WMCoolmon about AMD64 | 08:56 |
| WMCoolmon | bah :P | 08:56 |
| March-RX8 | hello | 08:56 |
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| nalioth | howdy March-RX8 | 08:57 |
| aftertaf | cheers nalioth ... thought crossed my mind too. | 08:57 |
| aftertaf | its a work PC, so i'll stick it back in the stock and try another... (don't buy HP!!!) | 08:58 |
| nalioth | aftertaf: why are you answering me in here? | 08:58 |
| aftertaf | i dont know...... | 08:59 |
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| aftertaf | :) | 08:59 |
| WMCoolmon | !tell WMCoolmon about restricted | 08:59 |
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| March-RX8 | hei | 09:50 |
| March-RX8 | i hav a kubuntu 5.04 installed on a pc | 09:50 |
| March-RX8 | what should i do to update it to the last release? | 09:50 |
| nalioth | March-RX8: i'd advise waiting til oct 13 | 09:51 |
| nalioth | the official release date | 09:51 |
| March-RX8 | cant i through apt-get? | 09:51 |
| March-RX8 | or synaptic? | 09:52 |
| nalioth | if you wish to do it now | 09:52 |
| nalioth | !tell March-RX8 about upgrade2breezy | 09:53 |
| mornfall | morning | 09:54 |
| aftertaf | yop mornfall :) | 09:54 |
| zorba64 | !upgrade2breezy | 09:55 |
| ubotu | The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade | 09:55 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: you on hoary right? | 09:56 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: could you try apt-get source adept? | 09:56 |
| aftertaf | yes and no ;) | 09:56 |
| mornfall | hmm | 09:56 |
| aftertaf | ok | 09:56 |
| aftertaf | on this one yeah... | 09:56 |
| aftertaf | i havent yet chrooted this morning ;) | 09:56 |
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| aftertaf | E: Unable to find a source package for ept | 09:56 |
| aftertaf | i said ept.... | 09:57 |
| mornfall | hmm right | 09:57 |
| aftertaf | i typed adept. | 09:57 |
| mornfall | that's ok | 09:57 |
| mornfall | you don't have the -src line anyway, i guess ;p | 09:57 |
| mornfall | anyway, it works | 09:58 |
| mornfall | some duncan hill was asking about the sources | 09:59 |
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| aftertaf | duncan hill ? | 10:06 |
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| mornfall | aftertaf: no idea, mailed me about it | 10:14 |
| aftertaf | dpkg-source: extracting ept in ept-0.4.1~hoary1 | 10:14 |
| mornfall | yes i know, i already tried on my system | 10:15 |
| aftertaf | hehe | 10:15 |
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| epiloc | has anyone here ever played around with linux on a toshiba libretto? | 10:39 |
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| yhann | hi to all! | 11:22 |
| yhann | I am a newby in Ubuntu world and need help. | 11:23 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | ask away. someone might be able to help | 11:23 |
| yhann | I usually using Mandrake where root can log in in GUI as everyone. | 11:23 |
| nalioth | said the Kamping_Kaiser | 11:23 |
| yhann | What about Ubuntu? | 11:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ubuntu no, kubuntu can if poked hard enough | 11:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yhann: for a start you need to reneable the root user account | 11:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | after that im not so sure, i can check the mailing list though and see | 11:25 |
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| nalioth | it is not advisable to log into a gui as root. it can damage your userspace | 11:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i saw this come up in the last few days | 11:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and yes, what nalioth said :/ | 11:25 |
| yhann | I try Sudo -i through a terminal but nothing after | 11:26 |
| yhann | I need to setup my Samba server... | 11:26 |
| nalioth | yhann: no caps in sudo | 11:26 |
| yhann | ok... | 11:26 |
| mornfall | Riddell: hi, hmm, sanekonsole still stuck? | 11:27 |
| yhann | But caps or not, I can sign as root on terminal but need set Samba on GUI screen... | 11:27 |
| yhann | How this root thing work? | 11:28 |
| === mornfall drops a huge stone on Kamping_Kaiser | ||
| yhann | What is sanekonsole? | 11:28 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser goes flat | ||
| mornfall | yhann: forget root, just use kdesu | 11:28 |
| yhann | mornfail, please be more clear.. | 11:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yhann: surely kde has a utitily to do samba shares in one of its controll centers? | 11:29 |
| mornfall | yhann: kdesu <program> in your terminal | 11:29 |
| yhann | ok let try | 11:29 |
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: better don't run around telling poor newbies how to log in as root :p | 11:30 |
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| zorba64 | !units | 11:30 |
| ubotu | zorba64: I don't know, could you explain it? | 11:30 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | mornfall: he asked ;) | 11:30 |
| yhann | command samba not found..... | 11:30 |
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: if he asked to be shot, would you? ;) | 11:30 |
| mornfall | yhann: what program are you trying to run dude? | 11:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mornfall: well, that depends if he uses gentoo ;D | 11:30 |
| === mornfall drops another stone on yhann | ||
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: heh | 11:30 |
| yhann | samba | 11:30 |
| yhann | samba config | 11:31 |
| mornfall | yhann: but what program you use to configure samba | 11:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and for the record, i have some good friends who dev on gentoo ;O | 11:31 |
| mornfall | gentoo is lame | 11:31 |
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| mornfall | listening to In Flames - System | 11:31 |
| yhann | mornfall, into KDE there is controle center where you can choose samba in admin mode to config... | 11:32 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser has never used gentoo. | ||
| mornfall | yhann: so what? | 11:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | use it ;) | 11:32 |
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| yhann | He does not let me go in root mode... | 11:32 |
| yhann | Everytime I put root password it just not let me change anything... | 11:33 |
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| mornfall | yhann: that's a problem yes... do you want to speak about it? | 11:33 |
| mornfall | *hides* | 11:33 |
| mornfall | yhann: anyway, tried kdesu kcontrol? | 11:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yhann: in a terminal run "sudo kcontroll" | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what mornfall quoth | 11:34 |
| yhann | i used sudo passwd to set root password | 11:34 |
| Riddell | mornfall: yeah, seems to be | 11:34 |
| mornfall | Riddell: damn | 11:35 |
| yhann | wow...mornfall you are geek! Thanks | 11:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 11:35 |
| mornfall | O.o | 11:36 |
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| mornfall | hey aftertaf | 11:36 |
| mornfall | s/hey/re/ | 11:36 |
| aftertaf | rehey :) | 11:36 |
| aftertaf | poxy proxy | 11:37 |
| aftertaf | all i'm doing is a dist-upgrade to breezy on a new box :D | 11:37 |
| yhann | mornfall: I spent days to understand how this sudo command works...I | 11:37 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 11:49 |
| yhann | thoreauputic: is that e-book or what????? :)) | 11:50 |
| thoreauputic | yhann: dead tree :) | 11:50 |
| yhann | Please theeauputic, I was Windows fan until few months.... | 11:51 |
| === thoreauputic likes the somewhat more relaxed atmosphere in #kubuntu ;) | ||
| yhann | Actually, linux world is brand new to me and try to learn and read! | 11:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. things a bit busy in #ubuntu atm thoreauputic? | 11:51 |
| thoreauputic | yhann: yes, well we all have dark secrets we would prefer not to admit ot ;) | 11:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 11:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | like being bsd and system Vs bitch? | 11:52 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: the Return of the Bots | 11:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ahh..... | 11:52 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser stays here | ||
| yhann | cool.... | 11:52 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: actually #ubuntu is now +r again :/ | 11:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ ouch | 11:53 |
| mornfall | thoreauputic: +r as in registered? | 11:53 |
| thoreauputic | right | 11:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | +right ;) | 11:53 |
| mornfall | well, probably anti-spam measure | 11:53 |
| thoreauputic | yes, anti bot | 11:53 |
| mornfall | #ubuntu is a bit more frequented than this one | 11:53 |
| nalioth | blasted bots | 11:53 |
| mornfall | my bot is registered with nickserv ;-) | 11:54 |
| nalioth | lucky they've not found us yet | 11:54 |
| aftertaf | screen & ssh is awesome | 11:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. | 11:54 |
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| mornfall | aftertaf: i must be too used to unix ways... what's unusual about ssh or screen? ;-) | 11:54 |
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| yhann | by the way, I have another question.. | 11:54 |
| aftertaf | run sth remotely, and kill the terminal window. then come back to it later:) | 11:54 |
| aftertaf | mornfall: i come from a m$ way of life dude... computers just dont DO that type of thing | 11:55 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser should learn screen :$ | ||
| mornfall | aftertaf: i can barely recall it working differently :p | 11:55 |
| mornfall | m$... what's that? :) | 11:55 |
| yhann | I have an old cyrix pc and I try /to load Kubuntu ann did'nt work. Any suggestion? | 11:55 |
| === thoreauputic stopped reading the man page for screen after 38 pages ;-) | ||
| aftertaf | cyrix..... hmm debian? | 11:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | openbsd? | 11:56 |
| aftertaf | thoreauputic: heh only use it for one thing, resume detached process execution. ive known about screen for a week | 11:56 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: actually, i can't recall using MS winders... last time i used them i run fluxbox on it i think ;-) | 11:56 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: was @ school, stupid c++ classes in a room with winders installed | 11:57 |
| thoreauputic | aftertaf: right - just commenting on the "man page" that was more like a copy of War and Peace ;) | 11:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thoreauputic: tried squid? ;S | 11:57 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: (still, we were supposed to putty/ssh into a MIPS machine with SGI IRIX on it to do the work ;p) | 11:58 |
| aftertaf | mornfall: never done IT at school, i'm a languages person. | 11:58 |
| yhann | Yes or there is any linux distro can work with cyrix? | 11:58 |
| nalioth | cyrix processors? | 11:58 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: i'm not IT person either, more like CS | 11:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yhann: its more that they are so slow afaik | 11:59 |
| yhann | Yes, cyrix processors | 11:59 |
| yhann | Yes, but I will use that Pc for downloading or test.. | 11:59 |
| aftertaf | mornfall: i did french ;) | 12:00 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: :-) | 12:00 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: i was wondering if i should start a second school :-) | 12:00 |
| mornfall | but i'm sorta short on time, with all those things going on | 12:00 |
| nalioth | yhann: ubuntu will work on cyrix processors (use a lightweight window manager) | 12:01 |
| aftertaf | as a teacher or a learner? | 12:01 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: i'm an undergrad student, man | 12:01 |
| aftertaf | i got my Ba in french by the skin of my [beep] | 12:01 |
| === mornfall blinks | ||
| mornfall | i'd want to teach at some point, but suspect i'm a bit young for that :) | 12:02 |
| yhann | nalioth, which version because I had Kernel panic error with the latest version | 12:02 |
| nalioth | yhann: hmmm, breezy is coming out in 4 weeks | 12:02 |
| mornfall | panic = male virgin in .cz (or .sk) :D | 12:03 |
| mornfall | (read as if n was ň though) | 12:04 |
| mornfall | (slightly OT) | 12:04 |
| yhann | mornfall, you still cool aftr all! ;) | 12:04 |
| mornfall | yhann: yeah, one could cool his beer on me ;-) | 12:05 |
| aftertaf | you how old mornfall ? | 12:05 |
| yhann | nalioth, Are you sure? How you know it will work? Did you test it? | 12:05 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser places slab on mornfall | ||
| mornfall | aftertaf: *counting* about 20 i think | 12:05 |
| aftertaf | where you guys at anyway? | 12:05 |
| yhann | Thank you Kamping_Kaiser!!! :)) | 12:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol mornfall | 12:06 |
| aftertaf | $mornfall+10>aftertaf | 12:06 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: Brno, Czech Republic | 12:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yhann: ;) | 12:06 |
| nalioth | yhann: no i have not, i have never owned a cyrix box | 12:06 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: so you are somewhere in 0-30 range eh? ;-) | 12:06 |
| aftertaf | top end of range ;) | 12:06 |
| aftertaf | 30 2B exact | 12:06 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: given you have a degree, yeah | 12:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ouch :D | 12:06 |
| mornfall | ah | 12:06 |
| yhann | nalioth: but how you know it will work? | 12:07 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: at least you don't make me feel old ;) | 12:07 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser lols at 'old' geeks | ||
| aftertaf | i have acertain degree of knowledge, thats all.... | 12:07 |
| aftertaf | Kamping_Kaiser: you a sprog too? | 12:07 |
| nalioth | yhann: i dont know if it will or not | 12:07 |
| yhann | ok | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 19, Australia | 12:07 |
| nalioth | yhann: you have a schroedingers cat on your hands | 12:07 |
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: kid ;P | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 12:07 |
| mornfall | yhann: try different kernels, btw | 12:08 |
| mornfall | yhann: maybe a 2.4 one, too | 12:08 |
| mornfall | yhann: (it could as well be mobo not cpu that's the problem, etc) | 12:08 |
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: (not that i'm much older ;p) | 12:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, i noticed :D | 12:09 |
| aftertaf | install, see if the processor is dead or not, the act of installing will either kill or not kill the cyrix. | 12:09 |
| mornfall | aftertaf: installs shouldn't kill cpu :p | 12:09 |
| aftertaf | the cyrix is in a superstate of both smoking and functional :D | 12:09 |
| aftertaf | mornfall: but you dont know until you install... thats the thing with schrdlinger's CPU | 12:10 |
| === mornfall puts a smoking p4 in aftertaf's pocket | ||
| === aftertaf heatsinks his boxers | ||
| === mornfall watches the cpu burn through the pocket and fall to ground | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser tuts. that p4 is going to need new lungs soon | ||
| yhann | ok, ok guys I will try! | 12:11 |
| aftertaf | old timer needs to get sustenance..... | 12:11 |
| === mornfall sends that p4 to a transplants clinic | ||
| === aftertaf foodage time ;) | ||
| mornfall | FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD | 12:11 |
| mornfall | good idea | 12:11 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser donates p3 | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | :o | 12:11 |
| aftertaf | pffff old timer christ! 30 y/o | 12:11 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser pats full middle | ||
| aftertaf | :/ | 12:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lmao | 12:11 |
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: interesting discovery... and since you have had an ass? ;-) | 12:12 |
| mornfall | +when | 12:12 |
| mornfall | (you obviously don't have anymore) | 12:12 |
| mornfall | (given't it is now "laughed off") | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ | 12:13 |
| === mornfall thinks he'll run to get some groceries | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | im reading ubuntu-devel. im not quick enought for those jokes atm ;S | 12:13 |
| mornfall | sorry... ubuntu-devel is serious matter indeed :p | 12:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mornfall: its not funny, htats for sure :P | 12:14 |
| === mornfall hands a handkerchief to Kamping_Kaiser | ||
| mornfall | keyboards don't like water too much | 12:14 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser wipes arse | ||
| mornfall | |lart Kamping_Kaiser | 12:14 |
| mornfall | ubotu: lart Kamping_Kaiser | 12:14 |
| === ubotu decapitates Kamping_Kaiser conan the destroyer style | ||
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 12:15 |
| mornfall | http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9ffHC23.html | 12:15 |
| mornfall | listening to In Flames - Metaphor | 12:16 |
| mornfall | and, time to really get the groceries or i faint from hunger and WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN?! :-) | 12:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ignore you? | 12:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol@ link as well ;D | 12:18 |
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| yhann | sorry, I will be back! | 12:24 |
| === _yhann [n=yhann@d154-20-117-155.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu | ||
| _yhann | hello nalioth! | 12:33 |
| nalioth | _yhann: howdy | 12:33 |
| mornfall | back | 12:33 |
| _yhann | Yes and no.. | 12:33 |
| _yhann | This is strange... | 12:33 |
| mornfall | everything is strange | 12:34 |
| _yhann | Actually I tried to switch Irc software (Konversation to X-irc) | 12:34 |
| mornfall | why would anyone switch to anything that's not irssi | 12:34 |
| mornfall | _yhann: something you don't like about konvi? | 12:35 |
| nalioth | _yhann: you shouldnt stay in -unregged | 12:35 |
| _yhann | On X-irc they need me to register my nick but nothing with konversation.. | 12:35 |
| mornfall | _yhann: maybe konvi registers you by itself? :) | 12:35 |
| mornfall | _yhann: or you don't have your nick registered at all? | 12:35 |
| _yhann | Yes, I tried to see channel list but I can not fetch chanel with more than 99 users.. | 12:36 |
| mornfall | _yhann: oh, also, note your nick now starts with underscore | 12:36 |
| nalioth | _yhann: you need to register your nick | 12:36 |
| _yhann | Start with underscore because is alternative if the nick is used | 12:37 |
| _yhann | I am also connect under yhann but directed somewhere else.. | 12:37 |
| nalioth | _yhann: you may join as yhann when you register | 12:38 |
| _yhann | nalioth: why you are so rude? I told you I am newbies in this world....can you be more friendly and polite? | 12:40 |
| nalioth | rude? | 12:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | er? | 12:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hyper sensitive yhann? :S | 12:41 |
| nalioth | guess so | 12:41 |
| RogueJediX | That was amusing | 12:41 |
| mornfall | RogueJediX: not quite | 12:44 |
| === mornfall would drop a huge stone on yhann if he was around | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser wonders at mornfalls obsession with large stones | ||
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| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: it's not obsession, it's a obsessive-compulsive disorder! /me runs to find another large stone | 12:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *runs the other way* | 12:49 |
| mornfall | don't you see you insensitive clod! | 12:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :| | 12:50 |
| === mornfall drops a large stone inscribed "sense of humour"... | ||
| mornfall | hmm, on Kamping_Kaiser too ;-) | 12:50 |
| === aftertaf_ is now known as aftertaf | ||
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: no worries, joking (all the time) | 12:51 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser tries to prises sence of humour out from under the rock | ||
| === RogueJediX is allergic to large piles of stone located above him with little or no structural support | ||
| mornfall | RogueJediX: is the allergy serious? | 12:51 |
| mornfall | i think i've heard of lethal cases | 12:51 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser drops a bucket full of sand onto RogueJediX | ||
| mornfall | Kamping_Kaiser: DUDE, stop it! i almost sprayed my monitor with water i had in mouth | 12:52 |
| === mornfall giggles | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 12:52 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser watches mornfall wet his monitor | ||
| RogueJediX | A bit offtopic: Does anyone know of a good game reviews site that's not loaded with flash content? | 12:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <bzt> | 12:53 |
| mornfall | RogueJediX: yeah, try microsoft.com | 12:53 |
| mornfall | big entertainment site | 12:54 |
| RogueJediX | I sincerely doubt they have PS2 games reviews | 12:54 |
| mornfall | you are probably right | 12:54 |
| === mornfall suggests using google | ||
| === aftertaf recommends playing nothing but supertux | ||
| RogueJediX | I'm already on it actually. All I get is stores even if I filter out words like store, buy, etc. | 12:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *installs supertux, and hopes he can run it* | 12:56 |
| RogueJediX | I've been using Gamespot to read reviews, but I got sick of all the flash and java content | 12:56 |
| mornfall | don't play games, save time! | 12:56 |
| aftertaf | Kamping_Kaiser: go tux gooooooo | 12:57 |
| mornfall | beneath a steel sky! | 12:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 12:57 |
| RogueJediX | All work and no play makes RogueJediX a very nervous dude | 12:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i havent played an fps for 9 months :'( | 12:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and i havent played anything but gnometriss for 6 :S | 12:58 |
| mornfall | i think i spent about an hour playing diablo 2 in the last 6 months | 12:59 |
| RogueJediX | I spend at least 10 hours weekly playing my PS2 | 12:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | eeek. console! | 12:59 |
| RogueJediX | That, or playing Scourge or Atlantik on my Kubuntu box | 01:00 |
| RogueJediX | Angband is good too | 01:00 |
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| mornfall | angaband is cool | 01:01 |
| mornfall | but i never beat it :-) | 01:01 |
| mornfall | i mean, not even in wizard mode :p | 01:01 |
| aftertaf | whatis angaband | 01:02 |
| CaiN_SA | aftertaf, | 01:02 |
| CaiN_SA | tell me quick | 01:02 |
| CaiN_SA | why does updatedb run on my pc | 01:02 |
| CaiN_SA | every bloody morning | 01:03 |
| aftertaf | cron task? do you reboot? | 01:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it runs because its told to ;) | 01:04 |
| CaiN_SA | ya | 01:04 |
| CaiN_SA | i turn laptop of every evening | 01:04 |
| CaiN_SA | and put it in server room | 01:04 |
| thoreauputic | CaiN_SA: anacron actually | 01:05 |
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| aftertaf | i like the way i appear to be an expert at certain things........ :D | 01:08 |
| === aftertaf so obviously isn't one... | ||
| thoreauputic | aftertaf: shhhh - someone might hear you ;-) | 01:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *unplugs ears* | 01:09 |
| aftertaf | hehe thoreauputic :) | 01:10 |
| === aftertaf plays gnometris while waiting for breezt dist-upgrade to arrive | ||
| thoreauputic | aftertaf: I now *know* I'm an arrogant clueless n00b because our friend from earlier *told* me so ;-) | 01:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aftertaf: top score? | 01:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. yeh thoreauputic you suck ;) | 01:11 |
| === thoreauputic goes to sit in the corner and lick his wounds | ||
| thoreauputic | :D | 01:11 |
| aftertaf | sucky sucksy. | 01:12 |
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| March-RX8 | hello | 01:12 |
| aftertaf | youz all up yo' ass. | 01:12 |
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| aftertaf | er.... sorry :) | 01:12 |
| March-RX8 | i updated kubuntu to breezy | 01:12 |
| aftertaf | hello March-RX8 :) | 01:12 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: "I" was the arrogant one | 01:12 |
| March-RX8 | but, where is Mozilla firefox?? | 01:12 |
| === aftertaf is in the process of going breezy... | ||
| thoreauputic | nalioth: heheh - lets have a competition ;) | 01:13 |
| March-RX8 | i cant find it in package list | 01:13 |
| zorba64 | March-RX8: now just called firefox | 01:13 |
| aftertaf | betchoo R a n00b thoreauputic !!!!!!! not h4x0r like m3 !! | 01:14 |
| === aftertaf looools | ||
| aftertaf | bring out the gimp! | 01:15 |
| === aftertaf rofling all ober the place | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | lmao | 01:15 |
| March-RX8 | havent found anyway | 01:16 |
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| n01 | hi to all | 01:17 |
| March-RX8 | hi n01 | 01:17 |
| n01 | it's good! | 01:17 |
| n01 | someone answered me | 01:17 |
| n01 | ubuntu is good! | 01:18 |
| aftertaf | hi n01 | 01:18 |
| n01 | and cool | 01:18 |
| n01 | another one | 01:18 |
| aftertaf | it SO is ;) | 01:18 |
| n01 | ;) | 01:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi :) | 01:18 |
| n01 | why u use ubuntu? | 01:18 |
| n01 | what's the meaning of it? | 01:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it r0x0rz :) | 01:19 |
| zorba64 | n01: can u spell apt | 01:19 |
| March-RX8 | cause is the only linux who run on my ppc | 01:19 |
| n01 | what's apt? | 01:19 |
| n01 | ok March-RX8 | 01:19 |
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| zorba64 | !apt | 01:20 |
| ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto | 01:20 |
| n01 | hi Chameleon22 ! | 01:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi Chameleon22 | 01:20 |
| aftertaf | n01: have you been to the ubuntu website? a lot of good info and background | 01:20 |
| n01 | yes it'true! | 01:21 |
| aftertaf | March-RX8: only linux 'that' runs.... 'who' is for people ;) | 01:21 |
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| n01 | someone tried to install Eclipse? | 01:22 |
| n01 | thax ubotu ! | 01:22 |
| aftertaf | #j eci | 01:23 |
| March-RX8 | aftertaf i forgot | 01:23 |
| aftertaf | oooops... | 01:23 |
| March-RX8 | i'am not english native | 01:23 |
| aftertaf | doesnt matter March-RX8 ... i gathered... it was a friendly grammar tip. :D | 01:23 |
| n01 | don't worry who's a native english?! | 01:24 |
| aftertaf | a lot of people 'have' to speak english and I thinnk you guys do a very good job of it ;) | 01:25 |
| === aftertaf is native english.... | ||
| n01 | ooohhh! | 01:25 |
| n01 | He is lucky, but we too! | 01:25 |
| aftertaf | I find that people never want to correct language errors, they worry about upsetting the other person.... but its a way to help you progress in english at the same time, if you are kindly corrected. | 01:25 |
| thoreauputic | aftertaf: congratulations, old boy - the ashes are once again yours . Jolly good show! | 01:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | does australian count as english | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ? | 01:26 |
| aftertaf | thoreauputic: yep.... was a good set of matches | 01:26 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: never! | 01:26 |
| aftertaf | Kamping_Kaiser: not in cricket mate ;) | 01:26 |
| n01 | i think so! | 01:26 |
| thoreauputic | aftertaf: yes - a good series indeed | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aftertaf: shut up pig :( | 01:26 |
| n01 | if u speak usually english | 01:26 |
| n01 | ... | 01:26 |
| zorba64 | Kamping_Kaiser: you bewdy mate! | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. g'day ;) | 01:26 |
| cricket_pig | la la la la la :) | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bah. poms all over :S | 01:27 |
| zorba64 | Kamping_Kaiser: howsitgoin? | 01:27 |
| Chameleon22 | hello all | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | orritemate'yself? | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi Chameleon22 | 01:27 |
| zorba64 | Kamping_Kaiser: notbadadall thanks | 01:27 |
| === thoreauputic waits for the out-of-tune We are the champppionnns! | ||
| Chameleon22 | whats up Kamping_Kaiser ? | 01:27 |
| after8 | naaaH; | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Chameleon22: not a lot. spinning a beatles cd (blasted poms ;D) | 01:28 |
| after8 | 18 years and we win it once..... have to wait to see if this is consistent | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and discovering someone ehre just won hte ashes :S | 01:28 |
| after8 | March-RX8: you're running on a PPC? how are you finding breezy ? | 01:28 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser gets over the ashes and moves on | ||
| === after8 changes subject fastish ;) | ||
| Chameleon22 | we lost! | 01:29 |
| Chameleon22 | hell is oficially frozen! | 01:29 |
| n01 | bye guys I must leave! | 01:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Chameleon22: yeh :S | 01:29 |
| n01 | see ya | 01:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | n01: later mate | 01:30 |
| nalioth | after8: you dont want to ask me how i find breezy? | 01:30 |
| after8 | yeah, but guys...... it was a very good series... even if Oz beat Eng it would have been a stormer for both teams. | 01:30 |
| March-RX8 | what do u mean after8 ? | 01:30 |
| Chameleon22 | where you from Kamping_Kaiser ? | 01:30 |
| after8 | nalioth: U R l33t l1nux u$3r :D | 01:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | from Tas, in SA (both aust ) | 01:30 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 01:30 |
| Chameleon22 | me in VIC | 01:30 |
| nalioth | after8: so you only pick on unknown users? | 01:30 |
| after8 | March-RX8: cos nalioth uses it too, and is happy with each step closer to the stable version..... | 01:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *gasp* | 01:30 |
| March-RX8 | i dont mind it | 01:31 |
| === after8 not picking on anyone.... | ||
| Chameleon22 | Kamping_Kaiser, dont gasp, its not your fault you from tazzy | 01:31 |
| Chameleon22 | ;) | 01:31 |
| March-RX8 | i actually prefer mandriva based systems | 01:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Chameleon22: you share a phone code with the inbreds.... i remember now :P | 01:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ;) | 01:31 |
| Chameleon22 | lol | 01:31 |
| March-RX8 | but i havent found one working properly on a ppc | 01:31 |
| March-RX8 | what should i install to move pic from camera to pc? | 01:32 |
| nalioth | March-RX8: yellowdog linux is the furthest you're gonna get to "working properly" on ppc | 01:32 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser looks for tht large stone to drop on March-RX8 | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | yellowdog still maintained? | 01:32 |
| March-RX8 | too many cds to burn | 01:32 |
| nalioth | March-RX8: if you can stand the redhat hell, that is | 01:32 |
| nalioth | March-RX8: there is a dvd image | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | yes | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | but ibook g3 dont read dvds | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | *doesnt | 01:33 |
| nalioth | Kamping_Kaiser: still maintained? hell yes, and they're fixin to start manufacturing their own hardware since apple is abandoning them | 01:33 |
| nalioth | March-RX8: my ibook g3 does | 01:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | jeees ok. | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | really? | 01:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i thought it died :$ | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | my one hav just cd reader | 01:33 |
| March-RX8 | no dvd drive | 01:34 |
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| nalioth | March-RX8: find a friend with a f/w dvd drive | 01:34 |
| March-RX8 | i'll keep kubuntu :) | 01:35 |
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| === Kamping_Kaiser buggers off to get proprietry codecs installed. bbl | ||
| === aftertaf_ is now known as after8 | ||
| after8 | damn proxy de merde! | 01:38 |
| after8 | nalioth: arent you usually in bed at this time?? | 01:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !backports | 01:44 |
| ubotu | Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports | 01:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ta | 01:45 |
| thoreauputic | after8: the war against bots knows no night! | 01:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | are other ppl having problems with backports? | 01:48 |
| nalioth | after8: are you trying to get rid of me? | 01:49 |
| after8 | hehehe | 01:50 |
| after8 | not at all... | 01:50 |
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| nalioth | after8: btw, even tho my nick says _zZz, that doesnt mean anything | 01:51 |
| G|Patrick | hi | 01:51 |
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| G|Patrick | are there reposotories for amarok 1.3.1? | 01:52 |
| G|Patrick | !amarok | 01:52 |
| ubotu | I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ | 01:52 |
| nalioth | grsstig! | 01:52 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: howdy stranger | 01:52 |
| apokryphos | Hey, how's it going? | 01:52 |
| === apokryphos does a dist-upgrade; been some time ;-) | ||
| nalioth | apokryphos: are you saying breezy whupped ya? | 01:54 |
| apokryphos | nalioth: nope -- been on holiday. Just came back; I'm behind. 8) | 01:54 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: ah | 01:54 |
| apokryphos | Barcelona. Really amazing time. :) | 01:55 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas | 01:56 |
| nalioth | lol | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | 8) | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | nalioth: what else has been 'appening here? | 01:56 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: bot swarms | 01:56 |
| nalioth | trolls | 01:57 |
| apokryphos | :/ | 01:57 |
| nalioth | usual stuff | 01:57 |
| apokryphos | Didn't miss to much then, cool. | 01:57 |
| thoreauputic | hey, apokryphos ! welcome back :) | 01:58 |
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: aloha! How've ya been? | 01:59 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: oh, same ol' same ol' ;-) | 01:59 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: thoreauputic has been terrible while you were gone | 02:00 |
| nalioth | apokryphos: he's been repressing folks right and left | 02:00 |
| apokryphos | That dark horse! | 02:01 |
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| === apokryphos shys away in fear | ||
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: definitely works ;-) | 02:02 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: actually of course , I'm innocent as a lamb | 02:03 |
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| mendred | hi i upgraded to breezy a couple of days back.. | 02:13 |
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| mendred | feels good and snappy | 02:13 |
| mendred | but a couple of problems | 02:13 |
| mendred | when i plugin my ipod | 02:13 |
| mendred | it doesn't appear on the desktop | 02:13 |
| mendred | nemore | 02:13 |
| mendred | it used to work with hoary | 02:13 |
| nalioth_zZz | mendred: breezy is broken until oct 13 | 02:14 |
| mendred | hokay | 02:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 02:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i love the acceptance | 02:16 |
| mendred | well..this isn't that big a deal since i can still mount my ipod manually | 02:16 |
| mendred | Kamping_Kaiser: So i am not protesting :) | 02:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) cool | 02:17 |
| after8 | mendr | 02:26 |
| after8 | oops | 02:26 |
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| dominik | hi | 02:29 |
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| apokryphos | hi | 02:32 |
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| hiasl | hi! somebody know a program for kde similar to the update-notifier? | 02:46 |
| G|Patrick | bye... :( | 02:47 |
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| blackflag | new day, new "hello all :-)" | 02:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dapper drake :o this will own | 02:54 |
| blackflag | I have a question about TCP/IP | 02:55 |
| blackflag | When I send packages than there are timestamps in it | 02:55 |
| blackflag | What this timestamps mean? | 02:55 |
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| blackflag | ARE there GMT Or what? | 02:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure. local time i expect | 02:56 |
| blackflag | Or is it about synchronisation | 02:56 |
| blackflag | between to nodes | 02:56 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | *shrug* | 02:57 |
| helpme | anyone knows how to use scrapbook ext in firefox? | 02:57 |
| blackflag | and /or time to live? | 02:58 |
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| blackflag | no TCP/IP eperts here? Can someone give me a good address to ask such question? | 03:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try looking for orialys book ;) thats probably able to explain all | 03:01 |
| blackflag | hmm, good idea! | 03:01 |
| drasch | oreilly | 03:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks drasch :) | 03:03 |
| drasch | Kamping_Kaiser: i realize spelling is optional in IRC, but it makes it much easier to google :) | 03:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, i couldnt remember how it was spelled :) | 03:04 |
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| blackflag | here to the one who is interessting in: | 03:08 |
| blackflag | http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/tcp/option008.htm | 03:08 |
| blackflag | but I dont understand where the timestamps comming from | 03:16 |
| blackflag | there must be a source | 03:16 |
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| setite | what are the repos to update kde or kubuntu desktop | 03:17 |
| apokryphos | !kde342 | 03:17 |
| ubotu | from memory, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | 03:17 |
| setite | are those only 32bit? | 03:19 |
| setite | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde342_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:19 |
| setite | W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/bolugftp.uni-bonn.de_pub_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:19 |
| setite | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.mirrorservice.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.mirrorservice.org_sites_ftp.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:19 |
| setite | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.cc.columbia.edu_pub_software_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dont do that again setite | 03:19 |
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| apokryphos | dam these commands ;-) | 03:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 03:21 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | setite: when pasting use pastebin | 03:21 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | !gmplayer | 03:27 |
| ubotu | Wish i knew, Kamping_Kaiser | 03:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | m. | 03:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !mplayer | 03:27 |
| ubotu | I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto. For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 | 03:27 |
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| apokryphos | mornfall: hey, you here? | 04:01 |
| mornfall | apokryphos: here | 04:02 |
| mornfall | sup? | 04:02 |
| apokryphos | mornfall: Hi :). Just checked adept beta2.. first thing I noticed: should package info etc expand upon click? Doesn't seem like the expected behaviour | 04:02 |
| after8 | apokryphos: i bet they updated the packet once i started d/ling | 04:02 |
| apokryphos | could be | 04:03 |
| mornfall | apokryphos: yeah, too many people cried they want it | 04:03 |
| apokryphos | oh :/ | 04:03 |
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| after8 | one thing mornfall .... can't you have it showing list of files and where it installs, like synaptic (sorry for swearing!!) | 04:03 |
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| mornfall | after8: file a wishlist, but not in 1.0 | 04:09 |
| mornfall | apokryphos: i'll think about the default behaviour, but most users seem to be happy about open-on-click | 04:10 |
| apokryphos | mornfall: it's better to please the masses, if that's what they want, probably. | 04:10 |
| after8 | but masses suck, all the same | 04:11 |
| after8 | bye all | 04:11 |
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| ubuntu | lu* | 04:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 | 04:18 |
| drasch | anyone have suggestions on where to look for the two OSD's showing up when changing volume on my thinkpad in Kubuntu Breezy (wasn't happening in Hoary) | 04:29 |
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| Borg^Queen | Hi people I'm trying to find the faq url for ubuntu. Does anyone know it? I've been to the site but I can't find a link. | 04:30 |
| apokryphos | Borg^Queen: did you even google? | 04:31 |
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| Borg^Queen | apokryphos: I think we have been through this before. I always google before I ask. | 04:32 |
| Borg^Queen | You have a short memory don't you. | 04:32 |
| apokryphos | I'm sorry if I don't reach the presumption of Google not working | 04:33 |
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| apokryphos | my memory is generally ok, but if you hanged around in IRC at all you'd know hundreds pass through everyday; evidently, I'm not going to remember every conversation with each person | 04:33 |
| fluffybunny_ | i hav ejust installed KDE, and am playing with all the new applets, etc --> the removable media applet has no option for usb drives, and nothing pops up when I plug my drive in... help? | 04:34 |
| Borg^Queen | I think you would remember that one. You were very rude. | 04:34 |
| Borg^Queen | I certainly remember it. | 04:34 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: does it work if you mount it manually? | 04:34 |
| apokryphos | Borg^Queen: I remember your name, but no recollection of any conversation we had. Don't take it personally. | 04:34 |
| Borg^Queen | I don't. I just don't like repeating steps. | 04:35 |
| apokryphos | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqfolder_view | 04:35 |
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| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: i can mount in in a terminal window... if thats what you mean | 04:36 |
| apokryphos | Kind of wondering how you'd miss that if you "googled". You're meant to type keywords in a search engine; hence, ubuntu faq in this scenario. And alas! First link. | 04:38 |
| Borg^Queen | That's not the faq I was looking for. | 04:38 |
| Borg^Queen | It if had been the simple, I wouldn't have asked. | 04:39 |
| Borg^Queen | My time is being wasted here. | 04:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Borg^Queen: yes it is | 04:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i wonder why | 04:39 |
| thoreauputic | Borg^Queen: you aren't being terribly clear then, sorry | 04:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | because you cant ask the question right | 04:39 |
| Borg^Queen | Nah, its the day people | 04:39 |
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| thoreauputic | Borg^Queen: what did you *actually* mean ? | 04:39 |
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| fluffybunny_ | she left | 04:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. you think fluffybunny_ ? ;) | 04:40 |
| thoreauputic | heh - another one who blames others for their own vagueness | 04:40 |
| fluffybunny_ | i know what its like to get frustrated, but bite your tongue, in my opinion, when you are asking for help, don't you think? | 04:41 |
| fluffybunny_ | Kamping_Kaiser: ;) | 04:41 |
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| apokryphos | Some people have the preconception that they can demand help in some way | 04:41 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: "I want the FAQ - but not *that* FAQ!" <---- telepathy failure on our part I guess | 04:41 |
| apokryphos | and that if you fail to please them, then you should be damned! =) | 04:41 |
| fluffybunny_ | so... cheesy grin, can anyone help with my issues? usb automounting, that is ... | 04:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | apokryphos: its more that people think they asked the right question and dont understand why these idiots cant find it for them ;) | 04:42 |
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: gotta adjust my telepathic antennas, definitely. | 04:42 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: lol | 04:42 |
| apokryphos | heh | 04:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: im afraid i cant. i dont use kde | 04:43 |
| fluffybunny_ | i'm thinking of a problem.... guess... | 04:43 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: dpkg-reconfigure psychic-bot-recall | 04:43 |
| thoreauputic | ;) | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 04:43 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: apologies, I know little about HAL and how media ioslave works in general. :/ | 04:43 |
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| apokryphos | thoreauputic: doesn't work... | 04:43 |
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| eolo | hallo all! | 04:43 |
| ubuntu | hello | 04:43 |
| apokryphos | Ah, I need to sudo :P | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 04:44 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: I don't know the problem, but the answer is 42 | 04:44 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: no more HAL errors since I switched to KDE this morning, just that my usb doesn't automount | 04:44 |
| thoreauputic | ;) | 04:44 |
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| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: what kde version are you on? | 04:44 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: yellow... | 04:44 |
| eolo | Someone can tell me how to add fluxbox to kdm session options? | 04:44 |
| papercarbon | Hi folks, I need help | 04:44 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: how would I check version? | 04:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | eolo: have you installed fluxbox? | 04:44 |
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| eolo | yes kamping | 04:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | papercarbon: ask then, dont just anounce it :D | 04:45 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: if you're in konversation, type something like /exec kdeversion now :P, if not: kde-config --version ...in konsole | 04:45 |
| eolo | Kamping??? | 04:46 |
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| apokryphos | eolo: thoreauputic is probably the one you want to ask, but I'd guess you need to add a fluxbox.desktop entry | 04:46 |
| thoreauputic | problem is I use gdm, so the entries for kdm I don't know... | 04:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mmm. all i know is you have to hack something :/ | 04:47 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: KDE 3.4.0 | 04:47 |
| eolo | but .desktop is not only a "show icon" matter | 04:47 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: if it's the ubuntu package of fluxbox, it should add an entry | 04:47 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: are you on i386? | 04:47 |
| eolo | ?? | 04:47 |
| kinfo | what? | 04:47 |
| apokryphos | eolo: what? | 04:48 |
| eolo | it's not the ubuntu package, it' 0.9.13 the last stable | 04:48 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: i586 (I think: Pentium Celeron 2.6 Ghz) | 04:48 |
| apokryphos | eolo: did you restart X? Not sure if you'd have to. If not, we can just create a .desktop entry easily | 04:48 |
| eolo | how | 04:48 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: ok -- go for kde 3.4.2 | 04:48 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: so you compiled it, right? And you want an entry - what about using ~/,xsession and choosing the default system session ? | 04:49 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: but i just downloaded the latest available version from the package manager? | 04:49 |
| apokryphos | !kde342 | 04:49 |
| ubotu | well, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | 04:49 |
| apokryphos | check that =) | 04:49 |
| apokryphos | eolo: one sec | 04:50 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: I am worried that it may not be KDE - I may have broken something (I was playin around with my boot sequences... i think i messed up) | 04:50 |
| eolo | i opened xsession but i'm not shure of what to do | 04:50 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: :/ | 04:50 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: for gdm the directory for entries is /usr/share/xsessions, but for kdm I don't know... | 04:50 |
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| thoreauputic | eolo: dot xsession ( ~/.xsession) | 04:50 |
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| apokryphos | thoreauputic: I don't think you can use that, actually. KDM is systemwide | 04:51 |
| eolo | ok found kde.desktop | 04:51 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: all you actually need in .xsession is the word "startfluxbox" (without quotes) | 04:51 |
| eolo | it's enough i add fluxbox.desktop? | 04:51 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: it doesn't respect .xsession? | 04:51 |
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| thoreauputic | eolo: no that doesn't do it | 04:51 |
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: I mean, that wouldn't put it in the kdm listing, I don't think. | 04:51 |
| apokryphos | oh, that other way, it could work. Not sure. | 04:52 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: right - but the default session doesn't exist? I think it does | 04:52 |
| eolo | ok i found /usr/share/xsessions | 04:52 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: If that works for kdm, use an existing file as a temlate | 04:52 |
| thoreauputic | *template | 04:53 |
| fluffybunny_ | are kubuntu repositories different from the standard? | 04:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: generaly no | 04:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | exept theres a few extras | 04:53 |
| thoreauputic | and call startfluxbox from the exec line | 04:53 |
| eolo | ok i'll try for some minutes and be back, thanks thoreauputic | 04:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | for that recent one (x.x.2) | 04:53 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: nope, but the kde 3.4.2 was. In future I think kde updates will be in backports | 04:53 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: OK - good luck then | 04:53 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: cool, thanks - updating now | 04:54 |
| fluffybunny_ | !i386 | 04:55 |
| ubotu | fluffybunny_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? | 04:55 |
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| fluffybunny_ | this room is konsiderably quieter than #ubuntu | 04:57 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: 95 here, 400 in #ubuntu | 04:57 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: yes, i see... | 04:57 |
| fluffybunny_ | so, while i am waiting for KDE to update - how do I small my desktop icons smaller? | 04:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 04:58 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: indeed. There's several reasons :P | 04:58 |
| thoreauputic | this is a nice place to get one's sanity back after hours of battling bots and trolls ;) | 04:58 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: small your desktop icons? | 04:58 |
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| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: doh! too ... much.... computer.... | 04:58 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: make my icon smaller, i meant ;) | 04:59 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: kcontrol -- can alter icon-size from there | 04:59 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: aha! | 04:59 |
| thoreauputic | * News flash! New verb -- "to small" ! nice coinage ! :D | 04:59 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: thanks... i pride myself on the misuse and abuse of the english language | 05:01 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: you are a true believer! " konsiderably " is clearly the KDE version <j/k> | 05:01 |
| thoreauputic | :) | 05:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | "i pride myself on the misuse and abuse of the english language" your on irc damit ;) | 05:03 |
| === Chousuke abuses english only intentionally. | ||
| === thoreauputic decides to speel and gramer chick every wurd frum now on | ||
| Chousuke | You know, verbing nouns and the like. | 05:04 |
| === apokryphos pretends unintentional misuses are intentional 8) | ||
| Chousuke | thoreauputic: I could actually do that :P | 05:04 |
| thoreauputic | :)) | 05:05 |
| fluffybunny_ | kwite | 05:05 |
| fluffybunny_ | ;) | 05:05 |
| Chousuke | every mac application is able to use the built-in spell checker. | 05:05 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_ is kwik and kunning | 05:05 |
| Chousuke | which is slightly annoying if I'm talking colloquial Finnish :P | 05:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the iKnow ;) | 05:06 |
| Chousuke | colloquial English doesn't really break spell checkers, but with finnish the spell checker fails every time :( | 05:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | use a real language :P | 05:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | assembly :D | 05:07 |
| thoreauputic | Chousuke: English spell checkers break English, in my experience :) | 05:07 |
| Chousuke | Perhaps. | 05:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thoreauputic: thats because your always using the wrong english for the job :) | 05:08 |
| thoreauputic | Grammar checkers are hilarious... | 05:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats the problem with it | 05:08 |
| Chousuke | thoreauputic: grammar checkers fail i. | 05:08 |
| Chousuke | it* even | 05:09 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: Sir, I have an Honour Degree in English Literature :) | 05:09 |
| thoreauputic | Honours even... *G* | 05:09 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: isn't that Honours? | 05:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i just finished school ;P | 05:09 |
| thoreauputic | indeed | 05:09 |
| apokryphos | hehe | 05:09 |
| === Chousuke Isn't even studying English anymore :p | ||
| thoreauputic | I also have the worst typing technique in the known Universe | 05:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Chousuke: niether :P | 05:09 |
| Chousuke | Still it feels like I use English more than Finnish. | 05:10 |
| Chousuke | Weird, considering I live in Finland. | 05:10 |
| === apokryphos reads old English novels 8) | ||
| === fluffybunny_ reads science fiction | ||
| === fluffybunny_ also reads fantasy | ||
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: Even Middle English, as I know :) | 05:12 |
| === fluffybunny_ feels like a kliche | ||
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: haven't for some time =) | 05:12 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: a kute kliche with fluffy bits ? | 05:12 |
| Chousuke | Old English is fuxed. | 05:14 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: yea and verily | 05:15 |
| Chousuke | It has some things in common with Finnish. | 05:15 |
| Chousuke | Except its pronunciation seems to be nicely inconsistent. | 05:15 |
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| eolo | back again! | 05:16 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: any luck? | 05:16 |
| eolo | Didn't worked | 05:16 |
| thoreauputic | hmm | 05:16 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: you used /usr/share/xsessions ? | 05:16 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: I think the kdm config must use something else | 05:17 |
| eolo | i've to understand the architecture: where kdm go to look for xsessions type to display them on graphical login options? | 05:17 |
| eolo | sorry for my english | 05:17 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: you'll have to dig I fear - I know only gdm for this | 05:18 |
| eolo | tell me about gdm | 05:18 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: I found out the hard way | 05:18 |
| eolo | hard!! | 05:18 |
| eolo | ?? | 05:18 |
| kinfo | i don't understand. | 05:18 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: gdm uses the directory I mentioned | 05:18 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: hard = difficult | 05:18 |
| eolo | and what he does? | 05:19 |
| eolo | tell me the hard way | 05:19 |
| thoreauputic | eolo: gdm? It's the gnome login screen | 05:19 |
| fluffybunny_ | noooooooo...... my kustom panel disappeared with my upgrade... oh well, more fun playing with applets | 05:20 |
| thoreauputic | if you want to use kdm you'll have to find the directory where it hides its config for logins | 05:20 |
| eolo | i try surfing web.... | 05:20 |
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| fluffybunny_ | ooo, not good: klicked on konqueror, klicked removable media: An error occurred while loading media:/: ---> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: ---> klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_media'. | 05:26 |
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| zAo^ | where is the Kmenu icon located? | 05:28 |
| fluffybunny_ | zAo^: who, me? | 05:29 |
| zAo^ | ehh, to everyone :) | 05:30 |
| fluffybunny_ | uhm... bottom left? | 05:30 |
| fluffybunny_ | i am going to reboot, see if that fixes m y removable storage issues | 05:30 |
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| zAo^ | duhh :) I mean the icon itself; need to replace it :) | 05:30 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | i expect /usr/ somewhere, but ask a geek wehre exactly :( | 05:31 |
| spiral | hi | 05:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 05:31 |
| Sputn1k | how to fix this error? http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/524/nuotrauka38xh.png | 05:31 |
| thoreauputic | zAo^: somewhere like /usr/share/icons I expect | 05:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks thoreauputic ;) | 05:32 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: not that I'm a geek ;-) | 05:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. of course not :) | 05:33 |
| === thoreauputic is in denial | ||
| thoreauputic | :D | 05:33 |
| zAo^ | :) | 05:33 |
| blackflag | ha someone an idea how I can do websites migration from IIS to apache? | 05:34 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser books thoreauputic in for some thorapy :P | ||
| blackflag | with php and mysql? | 05:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | scp should do the pages :) | 05:34 |
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| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: too late - my therapist says I'm nuts ;-) | 05:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 05:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | blackflag: i dont know about the details of MySQL and IIS, so i cant give any good help | 05:35 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: of course, he has a severe perceptual disorder ;) | 05:35 |
| blackflag | but you have an idea between IIS and apache? | 05:36 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | ;) of course. but i hate to break it to you - the walls realy are not purple | 05:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | blackflag: yeh, ones opensource. what do you need to know as such? what are you moving? how many sites? pages? | 05:36 |
| fluffybunny_ | ok, so i've rebooted, and I can klick on removable storage in konqueror but alas, woe is me - no usb drive... | 05:37 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser comforts fluffybunny_ | ||
| === fluffybunny_ sniffs | ||
| blackflag | only 10 websites including forums (phpbb) | 05:37 |
| === fluffybunny_ is glad for the comfort | ||
| === fluffybunny_ thinks she will never mess around with init.d or boot scripts again | ||
| fluffybunny_ | :( | 05:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | blackflag: i have no deep undertanding of the stuff involved, but i dont see why it cant be done with a few striat forward steps... then some panic when it breaks :) | 05:38 |
| blackflag | :-) | 05:38 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser twigs fluffybunny_ isnt your avarage geek | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | :D | 05:38 |
| === fluffybunny_ doesn't konsider herself a geek at all | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. your nto a geek, and niether is thoreauputic :P | 05:39 |
| === fluffybunny_ was tricked into trying linux "cause its really not as hard as you think..." bah!!! | ||
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lmao | 05:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can go back to sucking satans cock fi you want ;D | 05:40 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: hahah - ah, but you will be a learned guru before you know it! | 05:40 |
| === fluffybunny_ is beginning to hate all OS's... windblows and linsux... | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser hands fluffybunny_ openbsd | ||
| === fluffybunny_ sighs in resignation... | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | learn to realy hate :) | 05:40 |
| === fluffybunny_ has been told (by the same linux person) --> "try gentoo, its easy"... i think not!!! | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | use gnome ;) | 05:41 |
| === fluffybunny_ thinks it may as well be LFS | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. fluffybunny_ | 05:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, lfs is worse | 05:41 |
| fluffybunny_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i broke gnome | 05:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no package management at all :D | 05:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :o your evil | 05:41 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser gets super glue | ||
| === fluffybunny_ thinks superglue won't work... she's tried superglue, and it works temporarily, but she can't get it to work permanently | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | thoreauputic: where does one edit the logout system so when you exit a sudo -s it runs sudo -k? | 05:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ duct tape? | 05:43 |
| fluffybunny_ | say, what is an "average geek" anyway? | 05:43 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: I haven't the faintest idea | 05:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | male | 05:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thoreauputic: :/ useless :P | 05:43 |
| fluffybunny_ | Kamping_Kaiser: ah... yes, there is a dearth of geekesses... | 05:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 05:44 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was a geek ;-0 | 05:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 05:44 |
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| fluffybunny_ | so... no takers on the usb problem? no-one out there up for a challenge? where are all the hardcore linux power users to help a fluffy bunny? | 05:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: i havent *used* kde for about 18 months. | 05:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | that was mandrake 9.2 | 05:45 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser should familiarise himself with kde ubuntu style | ||
| === fluffybunny_ wonders then why Kamping_Kaiser is in #kubuntu and not #ubuntu? | ||
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: *real* hardcore powerusers don't use USB - they use punch cards and teletypes ;) | 05:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | becaues they dont need more help in #ubuntu. and im usualy kamping there as well :) | 05:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:46 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser cancels order for parralel port interface ;P | ||
| fluffybunny_ | :) | 05:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh crap. another 113m of updates :/ | 05:47 |
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| fluffybunny_ | i'm going to nip into #ubuntu and see if they can help there... | 05:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *shuts down mirror and goes to bed* | 05:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: good luck , but warning | 05:47 |
| fluffybunny_ | ? | 05:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you may be flamed for using kde in #ubuntu | 05:48 |
| fluffybunny_ | hmmm, how to get help without mentioning kde... | 05:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fluffybunny_: give it a try. | 05:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its just sometimes people are having a bad day :/ | 05:48 |
| apokryphos | Heh, nah, you'll be alright. Easy to combat them ;-) | 05:48 |
| thoreauputic | Kamping_Kaiser: no just the revolving door *ask in #kubuntu* | 05:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just as im having a bad 1:20 am | 05:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thoreauputic: yeh, that as well | 05:49 |
| fluffybunny_ | yes, thats how i wound up here in the first place... | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: which problem? | 05:49 |
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| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: no automount | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | if you're talking about the autodetection, #kde is probably better | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | #kubuntu is the best of course, in theory; but if no-one here can help.. | 05:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. revolving door anyone ;) | 05:50 |
| fluffybunny_ | ok... | 05:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | night loves ;P | 05:51 |
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| Budda^windoze | does someone know if its possible to change the kdm background from the console? | 05:57 |
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| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: is the HAL daemon running? | 06:00 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: i'm not sure --> i keep getting HAL! failed to initialise when I log into Gnome, no such error on kde... | 06:05 |
| apokryphos | hm | 06:05 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: can you pastebin the output of ps aux|grep hal ? | 06:05 |
| thoreauputic | Question: who was the greater genius, BAch or Mozart ? | 06:06 |
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| thanish | hi frens | 06:07 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: hal 8186 0.1 2.4 7360 5860 ? Ss 17:34 0:02 /usr/sbin/hald --drop-privileges | 06:08 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: amanda 9741 0.0 0.2 2952 588 pts/1 S+ 18:07 0:00 grep hal | 06:08 |
| === thoreauputic drops a 50kg Unix manual on fluffybunny_ | ||
| thanish | current;y using kubuntu.... but want to switch to gnome... how to do it frens?? | 06:08 |
| fluffybunny_ | hey~! it was only two lines!! | 06:08 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: hey - Ihave to use my custom lart now and again! *grin* | 06:08 |
| thanish | current;y using kubuntu.... but want to switch to gnome... how to do it frens?? | 06:09 |
| fluffybunny_ | :) | 06:09 |
| apokryphos | fluffybunny_: nothing else? | 06:09 |
| fluffybunny_ | offtopic: can you create custom commands like that in gaim? | 06:09 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: nothing else - unless I should have sudo'ed it? | 06:10 |
| apokryphos | nope | 06:10 |
| apokryphos | Still, looks like it is running. Are you on hoary? | 06:10 |
| fluffybunny_ | apokryphos: yes | 06:10 |
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| === fluffybunny_ is off to nibble some carrots ... back later... | ||
| === fluffybunny_ is going to reboot as well as get supper - back soon(ish) | ||
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| Budda^windoze | argh....everytime i try to start kde it says that dcopserver isnt running even when i run it before starting kdm its closed after the error msg | 06:21 |
| Budda^windoze | anyone got a solution? | 06:21 |
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| eolo | OK guys i did it!!! | 06:33 |
| eolo | and it was very easy | 06:33 |
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| apokryphos | cool =) | 06:34 |
| apokryphos | seems to me like GNOME are quite involved with producing bounties for things | 06:34 |
| eolo | you want to know? | 06:34 |
| apokryphos | some real interesting ones for SoC | 06:34 |
| apokryphos | eolo: sure | 06:35 |
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| eolo | kde3 has a list of available sessions in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions | 06:36 |
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| eolo | you have just to check your wm exists and modify the exec path in (your_win_manager).desktop | 06:37 |
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| eolo | kdm checks for availability of that executable and if it exists it put an entry in session menu of kdm | 06:37 |
| eolo | not so clear? | 06:38 |
| apokryphos | ok, I see. | 06:38 |
| eolo | my problem was that my executable was in /usr/local/bin | 06:39 |
| eolo | not in /usr/share/bin | 06:39 |
| eolo | now I FLUX | 06:39 |
| foca | nassss | 06:40 |
| jjesse | any idea on why i can't authenticate correctly to my exchange server w/ evolution since i did an apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy? | 06:40 |
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| jdef | I just installed kubuntu preview works beautifully how different will the final version be. | 06:42 |
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| Tm_T | jdef: bugfixes and polishing | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | I think | 06:43 |
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| fluffybunny_ | how do I open the control panel again? | 06:44 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: kcontrol | 06:44 |
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| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: from a terminal that is... | 06:44 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: thanks | 06:44 |
| thoreauputic | fluffybunny_: that's kwite alright ;) | 06:45 |
| fluffybunny_ | thoreauputic: 'kay... | 06:45 |
| thoreauputic | kwah? | 06:45 |
| === fluffybunny_ still has no luck with usb/hal | ||
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| Aapzak | aseigo: I was wondering if you use Skype over artsd and if you experience lots of delay? | 07:01 |
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| Tm_T | oh, aseigo hi o/ | 07:02 |
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| buz | i there got a question | 07:02 |
| buz | why do i see the following in top: Mem: 906660k total, | 07:03 |
| buz | when i have 1024mb and NOT shared video? | 07:03 |
| Aapzak | maybe mB/MB conversion? | 07:03 |
| buz | cant be it | 07:04 |
| Aapzak | maybe some memory is in use by kernel? | 07:04 |
| thoreauputic | buz: because you are using a 386 kernel | 07:04 |
| buz | ram, unlike hd, uses real MB | 07:04 |
| buz | thoreauputic: so using a 686 should help? | 07:04 |
| thoreauputic | buz: you need a 686 kernel or amd equivakent | 07:04 |
| buz | aaaaaaaaaaaah | 07:04 |
| thoreauputic | yes | 07:04 |
| buz | interesting :) | 07:04 |
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| buz | i'll go install a k7 one then ;) | 07:04 |
| buz | (theorteitcally, this is amd64 anyhow but i dont want that trouble right now) | 07:04 |
| thoreauputic | 386 has a limit of ~~ 900MB | 07:05 |
| buz | ok | 07:05 |
| buz | that would explain it then | 07:05 |
| thoreauputic | apt-cache serch linux-image | 07:05 |
| thoreauputic | *search | 07:05 |
| buz | i know how to use synaptic thanks ;) | 07:05 |
| thoreauputic | but *don't* use 2.6.11 | 07:05 |
| thoreauputic | OK | 07:05 |
| buz | i hope we get .14 in breezy | 07:05 |
| buz | i wanna use fuse | 07:05 |
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| thoreauputic | 2.6.12 in breezy I think | 07:06 |
| === apokryphos nods | ||
| hon | I am going to try breezy guys. do you suggest the latest snapshot dvd or the preview live cd? | 07:07 |
| buz | but no fuse in .12 right? | 07:07 |
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| apokryphos | hon: you're on hoary currently? | 07:08 |
| apokryphos | dvd will give you the option to install, as well; so if you want that... | 07:08 |
| hon | I am using hoary now | 07:08 |
| apokryphos | you can do a straight apt-get to upgrade, but if you want to take a look at things then the LiveCD is great for that, sure. | 07:08 |
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| hon | which one is better at this moment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/ | 07:10 |
| hon | or the preview? | 07:10 |
| hon | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ is for Sept 12 | 07:10 |
| hon | and the preview is a few days older | 07:11 |
| hon | now I am not sure which one to try | 07:11 |
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| Tm_T | hon: preview would be my pick | 07:14 |
| hon | why? | 07:14 |
| hon | I mean did they break anything after the preview? ;) | 07:15 |
| buz | mhh 1gb ram now | 07:15 |
| buz | still need more | 07:15 |
| buz | *digsthruhardwarepile* | 07:15 |
| buz | damn no pc3200 ddr left | 07:16 |
| buz | only pc2700 | 07:16 |
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| Sith_Tux | how can i reconfigure my lcd screen? | 07:32 |
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| author_psi | hi guys | 07:37 |
| zAo^ | lo | 07:37 |
| apokryphos | Sith_Tux: you probably mean reconfigure your x -- you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 07:39 |
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| christian | habe Frage zu Operainstallation | 07:48 |
| OculusAquilae | christian: german irc-channel: #kubuntu-de | 07:48 |
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| thomas | hello | 07:50 |
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| thomas | can I use my own splashscreen in breezy? | 07:52 |
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| libben | have u tried? | 08:05 |
| thomas | the splashscreen? | 08:06 |
| libben | yeah | 08:06 |
| thomas | it is in breezy, the package usplash | 08:07 |
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| RogueJediX | Is anyone running breezy yet? | 08:15 |
| OculusAquilae | thomas: already tried Kfind | 08:15 |
| OculusAquilae | RogueJediX: yes | 08:15 |
| RogueJediX | How's Kaffeine? Is it fixed? | 08:15 |
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| OculusAquilae | RogueJediX: hm don't know, haven't tried yet | 08:16 |
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| johlin | hey guys! got kubuntu installed now | 08:16 |
| johlin | one problem though | 08:16 |
| OculusAquilae | RogueJediX: but there was a fixed package for hoary too | 08:16 |
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| johlin | I can't open package manager, it says wrong password, but I enter the right one (I can do root commands via su with that password) | 08:17 |
| RogueJediX | Really? Must've missed it | 08:17 |
| johlin | and when starting kynaptic, I get this error: | 08:17 |
| johlin | root@johan:/home/johan # kynaptic | 08:18 |
| johlin | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server | 08:18 |
| johlin | Xlib: No protocol specified | 08:18 |
| johlin | kynaptic: cannot connect to X server :0.0 | 08:18 |
| OculusAquilae | RogueJediX: it was part of the kde 3.4.2 or 3.4.1 backports | 08:18 |
| RogueJediX | It must be 3.4.1 backports then, because I'm running 3.4.2 and it's still giving me lip | 08:18 |
| RogueJediX | Noatun isn't bad, though I really prefer Kaffeine | 08:19 |
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| NetSkier | johlin: Your problem is with the X server. | 08:26 |
| NetSkier | You can work around this by opening up your x security before you su to root. | 08:27 |
| NetSkier | johlin: 'xhost local:root' BEFORE you su or sudo to root. | 08:27 |
| NetSkier | oh well; guess you are gone. | 08:29 |
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| johlin | NetSkier: Why should I do that? Just curious. Will that command make the package manager always work, or just temporary? | 08:42 |
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| johlin | update on the problem, I cant | 08:46 |
| johlin | do any root-programs | 08:46 |
| johlin | for example, when running the control panel, I can't change the login.-stuff, when asked for password, I enter the right one, that works in a konsole, but it says that it is wrong | 08:47 |
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| NetSkier | johlin: You do what I said to prevent what you said happened, namely: | 09:03 |
| NetSkier | <johlin> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server | 09:03 |
| NetSkier | <johlin> Xlib: No protocol specified | 09:03 |
| NetSkier | <johlin> kynaptic: cannot connect to X server :0.0 | 09:03 |
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| NetSkier | Root can not connect because you have not given root permission to connect yet. | 09:04 |
| johlin | <NetSkier> Root can not connect because you have not given root permission to connect yet. | 09:06 |
| johlin | okay | 09:06 |
| johlin | what do I do? | 09:07 |
| hydrogen | It's only g3etting worse.. | 09:07 |
| hydrogen | 31748 hydrogen 15 0 1023m 854m 608 S 0.0 84.4 43:10.94 gam_server | 09:07 |
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| NetSkier | johlin: do what I said above. Exit out of root, run that command as your non-root user,then become root, and do whatever. | 09:07 |
| NetSkier | johlin: That command gives root permission to use the x-server owned by your non-root user. | 09:09 |
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| johlin | still doesn't work :( | 09:09 |
| NetSkier | what error? | 09:10 |
| johlin | johan@johan:~$ xhost local:root | 09:10 |
| johlin | non-network local connections being added to access control list | 09:10 |
| NetSkier | that is not an error. | 09:10 |
| johlin | it does work from terminal window, as root, but not when executed from the menu | 09:10 |
| johlin | then it still says wrong password | 09:11 |
| NetSkier | what is 'it'? | 09:11 |
| johlin | what the password is? | 09:11 |
| NetSkier | Use complete sentences. | 09:11 |
| johlin | If I execute kynaptic from the kde-menu, then kde tells me that the password is incorrect, but if I execute kynaptic as root from konsole, then it works, with lots of warnings though (warnings in the konsole window) | 09:12 |
| johlin | (where the "it" is kynaptic) | 09:12 |
| hydrogen | johlin: its _your_ password, not roots | 09:13 |
| pc22 | how do i add repositories in kubuntu? | 09:13 |
| hydrogen | in the kdialog | 09:13 |
| NetSkier | So, ok, this is a new error. The X-server error went away. | 09:13 |
| pc22 | where is it | 09:13 |
| johlin | Netskier: The passwords are the same for root and for my account, this worked in ubuntu. Is that what I am doing wrong? | 09:14 |
| NetSkier | I can not tell from what you have written. | 09:14 |
| johlin | so...what do you want me to write? | 09:14 |
| johlin | Sorry if I am not writing correctly. English is not my main language | 09:15 |
| NetSkier | Don't be concerned about the grammar; just be crystal clear. | 09:16 |
| NetSkier | johlin: what problem do you want to solve now? | 09:17 |
| johlin | okay. what info do you need? I can open kynaptic from a konsole-window, but then I get lots of warnings (but it's working correctly), but if I execute from the kde-menu, then my correct root-password seems to be wrong | 09:17 |
| NetSkier | johlin: I don't user package managers, so I am not the best person to help you with them. I just use the underlying apt-get commands. Tell me what you want to install,and I will tell you how to do it. | 09:18 |
| johlin | okay. thanks. I will try the kubuntu forum and see if someone can help me. | 09:19 |
| johlin | thanks for the effort anyway | 09:19 |
| NetSkier | I have a hunch about this. | 09:19 |
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| johlin | huch means? | 09:19 |
| NetSkier | welcome. | 09:19 |
| NetSkier | hunch means a guess. | 09:19 |
| johlin | okay. guess? | 09:20 |
| NetSkier | I am a Debian guy, and new to Kubuntu. I was shocked to find that root logins were not allowed from the x-login window. | 09:20 |
| NetSkier | and that I had no root password assigned. | 09:20 |
| johlin | yeah, that's wierd. but it's really meant as a beginner distro, but at least an option to disable this would be nice | 09:21 |
| NetSkier | So I fixed this by booting from the 'recovery mode' kernel, and then set the root password there. | 09:21 |
| johlin | and then root logins should be allowed+ | 09:21 |
| NetSkier | Now I can create a console window, and then su to root from there, when I need to do sys admin work. | 09:22 |
| johlin | that's what I do when I need to root stuff. Isn't logging in as root kind of insecure anyway? | 09:22 |
| NetSkier | Perhaps this might be related to your problem trying to do root related things from the menu. Just a guess. | 09:22 |
| johlin | maybe. I'll try the kubuntu forum | 09:23 |
| NetSkier | Depends on a lot of things. | 09:23 |
| johlin | but if you do wrong, you can mess things up, as root | 09:23 |
| NetSkier | Just don't run any vulnerable services, and stay behind a firewall, and you will be fairly safe, and don't insult anyone online,or they might hurt your system. | 09:24 |
| johlin | Do I need a firewall when running as non-root? | 09:24 |
| NetSkier | root is like driving a car; you can crash your car. | 09:24 |
| NetSkier | Firewall is always a good idea. | 09:24 |
| johlin | <NetSkier> root is like driving a car; you can crash your car. | 09:24 |
| johlin | haha | 09:24 |
| NetSkier | Glad you laughed, but it is quite true. | 09:25 |
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| NetSkier | But a lot cheaper to fix than your car. | 09:25 |
| johlin | yeah, I know. But I guess I will go for normal account for now. I don't need to do lost of root-things, and when I do, su will do | 09:25 |
| NetSkier | sudo is even better for that. | 09:26 |
| NetSkier | Keeps you from forgetting to log back out of root when you are done with it. | 09:26 |
| johlin | I always close down the terminal when I'm finished though. Guess it's a windows-thing | 09:26 |
| pc22 | is kde good for new user of linux? | 09:27 |
| NetSkier | kde looks like windows, so I guess so. | 09:27 |
| johlin | when I began using linux, on slax then (a live cd), I really felt comfortable with kde | 09:27 |
| NetSkier | good for windows users; gnome might be better for mac users. | 09:28 |
| johlin | if you are a former windows\mac-user, then kde should be easy to use | 09:28 |
| apokryphos | I find it odd when people come to Linux and think it looks like windows. Some things, i.e. windows, are fairly standard. What did they expect? | 09:28 |
| NetSkier | windowmaker looks different than windows. | 09:28 |
| johlin | I expected just terminal windows everywhere, like dos, until I found out that time was moving forward | 09:28 |
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| apokryphos | johlin: progress! | 09:29 |
| pc22 | im moving from windows | 09:29 |
| johlin | yep. I felt stupid when I saw some really nice linux screenshots, always though it was like dos | 09:30 |
| pc22 | i hate to go back. so i need all the support to stay ;) | 09:30 |
| johlin | me too, there is really good support for linux though, friendly people everywhere | 09:30 |
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| pc22 | johlin. youre new to linux? | 09:31 |
| johlin | I was using slax (live-cd) in the beginning of this year, but due to lilo-problems, I have been using windows until now, when I felt like I needed linux in some way | 09:31 |
| johlin | I've been using regular ubuntu for a month also | 09:32 |
| johlin | Windows will always be windows, and never changes much, but with linux, you can make it look the way you like | 09:32 |
| pc22 | u have a network? | 09:32 |
| johlin | I do, but I haven't tried to acess it yet, I installed kubuntu one hour ago, so | 09:32 |
| pc22 | i wanted to install printer from another ubuntu box | 09:33 |
| pc22 | i dont know how to do it :( | 09:33 |
| johlin | another ubuntu box. I though you meant a windows-network. | 09:34 |
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| johlin | But I think kubuntu should have network support, if you don't have firewalls on them, it should work | 09:34 |
| johlin | maybe you miss some packages | 09:34 |
| pc22 | yeah im in a windows network but i started replacing them all with ubuntu box | 09:35 |
| johlin | you need the samba-packages as far as I know | 09:35 |
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| johlin | they should be in the package manager, and apt-get install samba should work as well | 09:36 |
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| stefano | hey does anyone of you guys speak french? | 09:42 |
| stefano | really important %) | 09:42 |
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| froggy25 | i need help plz | 09:48 |
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| apokryphos | !helpme | 09:49 |
| ubotu | If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you. | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | i need to know how i can adjust my clock to show the time in 12 hr. mode | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | not 24 hr. mode | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | in the right timezone | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | which is central | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | how do you do this | 09:49 |
| froggy25 | !clock | 09:50 |
| ubotu | Syntax error in line 1, froggy25 | 09:50 |
| froggy25 | !info clock | 09:50 |
| apokryphos | configure clock will give you option to change timezon | 09:50 |
| froggy25 | ive done that | 09:50 |
| apokryphos | froggy25: please don't flood; to investigate with the bot you should be in /msg | 09:50 |
| froggy25 | do what | 09:50 |
| froggy25 | im not flooding | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | im not a bot either | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | and i dont use bots | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | oh you mean ubotu | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | sorry | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | ok | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | help me | 09:51 |
| apokryphos | froggy25: you *were* flooding. You made 7 posts in a row, without any reason. | 09:51 |
| apokryphos | !enter | 09:51 |
| ubotu | don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks! | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | help me | 09:51 |
| froggy25 | then | 09:51 |
| apokryphos | froggy25: you're giving practically zero information. | 09:52 |
| apokryphos | did you change to the correct timezone? | 09:52 |
| froggy25 | im using chicago timezone' | 09:52 |
| froggy25 | but it says 13:52:53 | 09:52 |
| froggy25 | i want it to say 2:54:00 | 09:53 |
| apokryphos | just change it, then | 09:53 |
| froggy25 | how | 09:53 |
| apokryphos | right click -> adjust date/time | 09:53 |
| froggy25 | that doesnt work | 09:53 |
| apokryphos | it doesn't bring it up? | 09:53 |
| froggy25 | i does | 09:53 |
| froggy25 | i dont know how to use it | 09:53 |
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| apokryphos | change the time it provides there | 09:54 |
| froggy25 | but its in 24 hr. mode | 09:54 |
| froggy25 | i want 12 hr. mode | 09:54 |
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| apokryphos | I don't think you can switch to 12 hr. mode without getting an analog clock display | 09:54 |
| aseigo | sure you can | 09:55 |
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| aseigo | go into the localization control panel and change the time representation | 09:55 |
| === apokryphos wonders why this isn't under configure clock, too | ||
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| aseigo | oh, and if you need to know what the special characters are there, use the WhatsThis help | 09:57 |
| xuserx | I'm impressed | 10:00 |
| xuserx | The end. | 10:00 |
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| Flying_Eagle | hi | 10:20 |
| nalioth_zZz | howdy | 10:21 |
| JeffAMcGee | howdy | 10:21 |
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| pc12 | hi | 10:23 |
| nalioth | howdy | 10:23 |
| pc12 | any filipinos here?? | 10:23 |
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| manyakis | hi pepz | 10:25 |
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| osh | Perhaps a stupid question, but why is firefox(browser) so dependant on gnome? 50% of the packages I see when I try to install it are gnome packages. | 10:27 |
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| apokryphos | osh: the one in the repositories was built with gnome libs | 10:28 |
| froggy25 | im trying to locate the system fonts for kubuntu | 10:28 |
| froggy25 | where are they located | 10:28 |
| apokryphos | though it doesn't in theory need them -- they probably did it for a few extra gnome goodies | 10:28 |
| froggy25 | apokryphos | 10:28 |
| froggy25 | can you help me again | 10:28 |
| nalioth | froggy25: try /usr/share/ and look for fonts | 10:28 |
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| froggy25 | ok | 10:29 |
| froggy25 | thanks nalioth | 10:29 |
| nalioth | froggy25: also, you can open a terminal and "locate *.ttf" | 10:29 |
| froggy25 | oh yeah nalioth, has anyone else asked about baghira lately | 10:29 |
| froggy25 | ok i will | 10:29 |
| nalioth | baghira? | 10:30 |
| froggy25 | the mac os x theme for kde | 10:30 |
| === nalioth isnt familiar with that | ||
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| osh | apokryphos: Ah. I think I see some gnome-stuff in firefox though. Lots of menus and stuff look very gnome-ish. | 10:30 |
| froggy25 | oh ok | 10:30 |
| osh | I know I can theme it away (mostly) but I was curious about the reason why it is like this. | 10:31 |
| apokryphos | osh: You can get the one from the website which requires only gtk stuff | 10:31 |
| nalioth | osh: dont use ff, use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase instead | 10:31 |
| osh | apokryphos: the www.mozilla.org website? But don't I want a qt only ff? | 10:33 |
| apokryphos | there isn't a properly working one | 10:33 |
| osh | nalioth: Does the ff plugins work with those browsers? I know they are related but are they compatible? | 10:33 |
| === osh nods | ||
| nalioth | osh: the 3 browsers i mentioned ARE written with gtk, for gnome desktop use | 10:33 |
| nalioth | osh: yes, the plugins should work fine. you may need to manually install them | 10:34 |
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| osh | nalioth: Actually what I was looking for was a qt-ff. I was curious why I needed all those gnome-libs when trying to install ff. | 10:34 |
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| osh | nalioth: Sorry if I was unclear. | 10:35 |
| nalioth | osh: 3 words. "compile it yourself" | 10:35 |
| osh | nalioth: Well, yes, I've done that but it still requires gnome-libs. And compiling it is quite a feat actually. Not something you just do "./configure && make all" if I remember correctly. | 10:37 |
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| jdef | Is there anyway to make gnome apps a more kde compatible look | 10:38 |
| Flying_Eagle | jdef, you mean the gtk-qt-engine? | 10:40 |
| jdef | flying_eagle, yes thx | 10:41 |
| Flying_Eagle | np :) | 10:41 |
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| nalioth | osh: nother reason to leave ff alone | 10:43 |
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| jdef | flying_eagle, can I find it in the repositories | 10:51 |
| Flying_Eagle | yes | 10:51 |
| Flying_Eagle | apt-cache search qt gtk engine | 10:51 |
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| farfa | lu | 10:52 |
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| _robert | hi all | 11:03 |
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| pogi | hi | 11:05 |
| _robert | I upgraded the libc6 from breezy because i needed the 2.6.12 kernel (for dvb-t - previous modules didn't work). Now in konsole no command prompt comes up. What can I do now? Is doing an apt-get dist-upgrade my only option? | 11:05 |
| osh | nalioth: But I like ff. I just wish it was a bit more qt-friendly. | 11:08 |
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| RogueJediX | From what I gather there is a project going on to make Firefox a KDE app. Or was it integrating Gecko support into Konqueror? Can't remember | 11:11 |
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| osh | RogueJediX: I think it was the latter... | 11:11 |
| apokryphos | RogueJediX: both, kind of. | 11:12 |
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| apokryphos | Gecko as a possible html rendering engine in Konqueror is being worked on | 11:12 |
| apokryphos | but I think a little work is being still done on firefox-qt | 11:12 |
| RogueJediX | Nice | 11:12 |
| RogueJediX | Either is good | 11:13 |
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| AMIGrAve | is it possible to use an audio CD iso image as if it was a cdrom device ? I tried to use the file path as the cdrom device in kaudiocreator but it doesn't work | 11:13 |
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| smokencrack | hello all | 11:16 |
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| carlos | oi | 11:25 |
| carlos | how to connect a hp printer kubuntu breezy? | 11:26 |
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| jdef | carlos, settings and printers and follow the wizard my hp was set up in no time | 11:28 |
| smokencrack | how do you get cups started? | 11:28 |
| jdef | carlos, system settings and printers | 11:28 |
| jdef | carlos, add printer | 11:29 |
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| carlos | i have tried but no works (hp photosmart 1218) | 11:30 |
| ctw | hi! Is anybody here running the breezy preview on a HP Pavilon dv1000 laptop (or any other laptop) and has gotten suspend to disk and/or suspend to ram to work? | 11:31 |
| ctw | it looks like it worked in Hoary, but it's very buggy for me (will wake up briefly and immediately shut down again, or not wake up at all). | 11:31 |
| carlos | ctw: i have the same problem with a toshiba satellite pro, i think the problem is a bug in breezy | 11:33 |
| ctw | thanks carlos ... do you know if a bug report has been filed? | 11:34 |
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| ctw | any idea if that'll be fixed for the final version? | 11:34 |
| jdef | carlos,I see the printer in the wizard list | 11:35 |
| smokencrack | speaking of printers how do I get the print daemon running in kubuntu. I cannot get cups started. | 11:35 |
| nalioth | ctw: suspend-to-disk, wakeup, etc are still kinda out there | 11:36 |
| carlos | i think no bug report but i hope the guys in final version fixed it): | 11:36 |
| ctw | nalioth, it worked on my old laptop (at least suspend to disk) and I've read reports that it worked out of the box with the dv1000 and Hoary | 11:37 |
| carlos | ctw:tks, i don t know the problem but the printer don t work...and they upgrade today hp printers | 11:37 |
| nalioth | ctw: i've personally never seen it work on any laptop | 11:38 |
| ctw | it's really usefull, I've seen it for the first time when I installed Hoary on a Compaq Presario 2700 ... I was very surprised and happy. | 11:38 |
| ctw | its such a useful feature | 11:39 |
| nalioth | yes it is | 11:39 |
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| pc22 | how do i add repository in kubuntu? | 11:41 |
| pc12 | hi | 11:41 |
| carlos | pc 22:change hoary for breezy in sources.list it works with me | 11:42 |
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| pc22 | hi manyak | 11:42 |
| manyak | hilow | 11:42 |
| manyak | asl pls | 11:42 |
| pc22 | where from? | 11:42 |
| manyak | phil | 11:42 |
| manyak | u? | 11:42 |
| manyak | hey | 11:43 |
| manyak | stil der? | 11:43 |
| pc22 | yeah im here | 11:43 |
| pc22 | phil | 11:43 |
| manyak | tlga | 11:44 |
| manyak | san.. | 11:44 |
| pc22 | sa qc | 11:44 |
| pc22 | u?> | 11:44 |
| manyak | ah | 11:44 |
| manyak | gensan | 11:44 |
| manyak | e | 11:44 |
| manyak | male po kau | 11:44 |
| manyak | 11:44 | |
| pc22 | 3 kami share sa isang comp | 11:45 |
| manyak | ok | 11:45 |
| manyak | bgo lng ako | 11:45 |
| manyak | la ko | 11:45 |
| manyak | lam neto e | 11:45 |
| manyak | d pde cam d2 ano?? | 11:45 |
| apokryphos | English only in here please. | 11:45 |
| smokencrack | racism | 11:46 |
| apokryphos | smokencrack: where? | 11:46 |
| pc22 | how do i add repository in kubuntu? | 11:47 |
| manyak | pc22 | 11:47 |
| smokencrack | "english only in here please". dont take it personal | 11:47 |
| manyak | san ka na | 11:47 |
| apokryphos | ubotu: tell pc22 about repositories | 11:47 |
| apokryphos | smokencrack: I think you need to get your terms sorted out ;-) | 11:47 |
| apokryphos | persons who speak a language is quite different to a race | 11:48 |
| smokencrack | I am not exactly a scholar, excuse prof. | 11:48 |
| manyak | sowe | 11:48 |
| smokencrack | excuse me prof. | 11:48 |
| manyak | nka blocke ako e | 11:48 |
| apokryphos | smokencrack: though it's not like we're trying to supress other languages. There are other kubuntu channels -- see /topic | 11:49 |
| pc22 | apokryphos: im using kde | 11:49 |
| apokryphos | manyak: I've already told you -- English only in here. | 11:49 |
| pc22 | the instructions there is for gnome | 11:49 |
| manyak | ok | 11:49 |
| manyak | sorry sir | 11:49 |
| apokryphos | pc22: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add the new ones there | 11:49 |
| pc22 | manyak pls speak englssih | 11:49 |
| manyak | small only | 11:50 |
| manyak | hihihih | 11:50 |
| jdef | pc22 get it here http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/vesaire/sources.list | 11:50 |
| jdef | pc22 change hoary to breezy where it occurs | 11:50 |
| pc22 | jdef: you using breezy now? | 11:52 |
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| jdef | pc22 yes | 11:52 |
| pc22 | what could be the difference tothe brreezy that will be released on otober? | 11:53 |
| apokryphos | pc22: a few differences listed here: http://cs.georgefox.edu/~jdodson/breezy_preview/ | 11:54 |
| jdef | pc22 this is the preview release main difference would be bugfixes and final touches nothing major | 11:54 |
| pc22 | ahhh so we can update it | 11:54 |
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| apokryphos | mind you, a lot of that is just gnome stuff =) | 11:55 |
| apokryphos | kde changes aren't *that* significant as it will unfortunately only have 3.4.2 | 11:55 |
| jdef | apokryphos 3.4.2 works great for me | 11:56 |
| pc22 | what will be the difference if i use hoary and then just update it with synaptic | 11:56 |
| apokryphos | jdef: sure, but it's not 3.5 =) | 11:56 |
| apokryphos | pc22: officially, it's recommended that you don't upgrade yet | 11:56 |
| jdef | apokryphos yeah I suppose | 11:57 |
| pc22 | tnx | 11:57 |
| jdef | pc22 I didn't update hoary I d/l kubuntu breezy preview | 11:57 |
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| pc22 | my exboyfriend is anxious to find out whats new. | 11:59 |
| pc22 | i wonder if im the only girl here in this room | 12:00 |
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